* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] GOOD [CALL TO ORDER] EVENING, AND WELCOME TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PETALUMA PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 6TH. [ROLL CALL] CLERK, COULD YOU PLEASE TAKE ROLE? PAMELA MEYER. HERE. KELLY BOND. HERE. NICOLE CAMARADA. HERE. STACY EARL. ADAM GARCIA. HERE. MARJA TAR. PRESENT. FRANKLIN QUINT. HERE. BRIAN BARNACLE. HERE. JAR CUSON. HERE. THANK YOU, CLERK. [GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT] BEFORE WE GO TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, UM, WE'RE, I'M GONNA MAKE KNOWN THAT WE'RE MOVING THE, UM, SCANNELL ITEM FIRST AND THEN THE A T P UPDATE WILL FOLLOW IN OUR AGENDA. SO WE'RE SWITCHING THOSE ITEMS. DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON ITEMS OF PUBLIC INTEREST THAT ARE WITHIN THE COMMITTEE SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION, AND THAT ARE NOT LISTED ON THE CURRENT AGENDA. PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED UP TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON. DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF PERSONS WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE. TIME WILL BE ALLOCATED IN EQUAL SHARES TOTALING NO MORE THAN 15 MINUTES. AND I HAVE, OH, I'M SORRY. CLERK, DID YOU RECEIVE ANY COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING? YES, WE RECEIVED THREE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND THEY HAVE BEEN POSTED TO THE AGENDA PRIOR TO THE MEETING. THANK YOU. AND DAVE ALDEN. HEY, ALDEN. I'M HERE THIS EVENING, AT LEAST FOR THIS PART OF THE MEETING, REPRESENTING PETALUMA URBAN CHAT. WE ARE PUTTING ON A URBAN CHAT, OR ACTUALLY BETTER CITIES FILM FESTIVAL SHOWINGS ON SEPTEMBER 20TH, WHICH IS, WHAT, TWO WEEKS FROM TONIGHT? AND AGAIN ON SEPTEMBER 28TH, FIRST SHOWING DOWNTOWN PETALUMA, SECOND SHOWING OUT OUT AT S R J C. IT'LL BE A 90 MINUTE REEL OF SHORT FILMS ON VARIOUS TOPICS OF URBAN INTEREST, INCLUDING BICYCLING, INCLUDING WALKABILITY. UH, I ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU TO ATTEND. THE CITY HAS A BLOCK OF TICKETS THEY WILL BE DISTRIBUTING. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO REACH OUT TO THE CITY MANAGER AND SEE IF YOU CAN GET YOUR HANDS ON ONE. I HOPE TO SEE ALL OF YOU THERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND NEXT TO ARIS WEAVER, UM, ERRIS WEAVER OF THE SONOMA COUNTY BICYCLE COALITION. I WAS VERY PLEASED TO SEE THE ANNOUNCEMENT THAT THE MERIDIAN AT CORONA PROJECT WAS AWARDED AN, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITY GRANT. AND AS WE WERE, UH, WRITTEN IN THE GRANT AS A SUB TO DO SOME OF THE BIKE ORIENTED EDUCATION AND STUFF, I'M VERY MUCH LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH ALL THE PARTNERS ON THAT PROJECT. SO, YAY. UM, A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS. SOME EVENTS THAT ARE COMING UP BIKE RELATED, UM, ON SEPTEMBER 17TH IS THE FANCY, THE FANCY WOMEN BIKE RIDE, WHICH IS AN INTERNATIONAL EVENT, STARTED BY A FRIEND OF MINE WHO'S FROM RO TURKEY. AND, UH, WE DID A REALLY SMALL ONE LAST YEAR IN ROANOKE PARK, AND EXCITED THAT IT'S GONNA BE IN PETALUMA THIS YEAR. SO, UM, HOPE TO SEE FOLKS OUT AT THAT. UH, WE ALSO HAVE COMING UP IN, UH, THE END OF SEPTEMBER IS OUR FIRST EVER BIG, UH, FUNDRAISING GALA THAT WE'LL BE GIVING OUT, UH, SEVERAL AWARDS. AND, UH, WE HAVE A GREAT AUCTION AND A LOT OF OTHER FUN STUFF HAPPENING THERE. AND THEN IN OCTOBER, WE'RE HOLDING OUR FIRST EVER, UH, SONOMA COUNTY BIKE ADVOCACY SUMMIT. THAT'LL BE IN SANTA ROSA TO GET ALL OF OUR FOLKS ALL AROUND THE COUNTY WHO ARE WORKING FOR BETTER BICYCLE INFRASTRUCTURE AND POLICY TOGETHER IN ONE ROOM TO SHARE STORIES AND INSPIRATION AND, UH, LEARN TECHNIQUES. SO, UM, HOPE TO SEE SOME OF YOU AT LEAST SOME OF THOSE EVENTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, ARIS. OKAY, THAT CLOSES GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, AND SO WE WILL MOVE TO, UM, PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION. UM, OH, I'M SORRY, [APPROVAL OF MINUTES] APPROVAL OF MINUTES. UM, ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE MINUTES? OKAY. SO THE MINUTES WILL BE ACCEPTED AS PRESENTED. [PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION] AND NOW FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION, WE HAVE REVIEW AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON THE PROPOSED PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE COMPONENTS OF THE SCANNELL MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT PROJECT LOCATED AT 500 HOPPER STREET. UM, AND THAT'S BEING PRESENTED BY EMMANUEL SSU. GOOD EVENING CHAIR. UH, MEMBERS OF THE, UH, UH, COMMITTEE, UH, CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? YES. [00:05:01] EXCELLENT. OKAY. UM, THANK YOU FOR, UH, CONSIDERING THIS, UH, ITEM THIS EVENING. UM, SO THIS IS A, UH, LONG STANDING PROJECT. UH, THE APPLICANTS ARE, UH, SCANNELL PROPERTIES. UH, THEY ACQUIRED THE, UH, ALMOST 40 ACRE PARCEL JUST TO THE, UH, WEST OF THE RIVERFRONT DEVELOPMENT, UH, ALONG THE, UH, PETALUMA RIVER AND THE, UH, MCNAIR CHANNEL. UM, SO, UH, NEXT SLIDE. SO, THIS PROJECT IS, UH, AS I INDICATED, JUST WEST OF RIVERFRONT, WHICH IS SHOWN ON THE SCREEN HERE. HIGHWAY 1 0 1 IS ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE. UH, LAKEVILLE STREET IS, UH, TOWARDS THE TOP OF THE, UH, SCREEN. AND, UH, THE DOWNTOWN IS ON THE, UH, FAR LEFT OFF THE SCREEN, UH, AS IS, UH, THE, UH, UH, DOWNTOWN, UH, SMART STATION. UM, NEXT SLIDE. THIS SHOWS THE, UH, PROJECT SITE, UH, OVER LANE OR SET NEXT TO THE, UH, ADJACENT RIVERFRONT DEVELOPMENT. UM, JUST FOR FOR CONTEXT, UH, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING, UH, SHOWN HERE SEVEN BLOCKS, UH, STARTING IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT OF, UM, THE SCANNELL PROPERTY IS BLOCK ONE. BLOCKS ONE AND THREE ARE PROPOSED AS, UH, UH, FOR SALE, RESIDENTIAL, UH, PRODUCT, UH, DUETS BLOCKS, UH, TWO AND FOUR, WHICH ARE JUST TO THE WEST OF THAT, UH, WOULD BE ALSO FOR SALE PRODUCT. UM, THEY WOULD BE ATTACHED, UH, RESIDENTIAL TOWN HOMES, UM, WITH, UH, WORK LIVE UNITS, OR LIVE WORK UNITS, I SHOULD SAY, ON THE NORTH SIDE OF BLOCK FOUR, FRONTING HIDALGO STRAIGHT. UH, BLOCK FIVE IS, UH, MARKET RATE APARTMENTS. UH, JUST BELOW THAT TO THE SOUTH OF THAT IS A, UH, COMMUNITY, UH, PLAY FIELDS THREE AND A HALF ACRES OF, UH, PLAY FIELDS OF OPEN SPACE, UH, OR COMMUNITY PARK. UH, BLOCK SIX, UH, WHICH IS, UH, FRONTS UP ON HOPPER STREET IS ALSO MARKET RATE APARTMENTS. AND THEN BLOCK SEVEN, UH, WHICH IS CLOSEST TO THE SMART STATION, IS, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING. PROPOSED, UH, THIS, UH, TO THE, TO THE RIGHT, TO THE EAST IS THE RIVERFRONT PROJECT. UH, THE LARGE GREEN SPACE, UH, IS THE ACTIVE BALL FIELDS, UM, THE PARK IN, IN RIVERFRONT. AND THEN THE BLUE SPACES ARE THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AREAS. UH, THE PEACH AND ORANGE SPACE ARE THE HOTEL AND FUTURE OFFICE, AND THEN IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER. AND THAT KIND OF YELLOWISH TANISH SPACE IS, UH, WHERE THE CITY IS RECENTLY APPROVED. AND WE'RE IN PLANCHE, UH, FOR 50 TOWNHOUSES. UM, THE TWO, UH, KIND OF OVAL, UH, OR CRESCENT SPACES AROUND THE CENTRAL GREEN, THE OVAL CENTRAL GREEN, UH, THOSE SPACES, THOSE ARE TWO VACANT LOTS. UH, IN CONTRACT BY SPIRIT LIVING, THEY INTEND TO DEVELOP, UH, A RESIDENTIAL CARE FACILITY FOR THE ELDERLY ON THE SMALLER OF THE TWO LOTS, THE, THE ONE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE CENTRAL GRAIN. AND THEN, UM, APARTMENTS ON THE, UH, WEST SIDE OF THE CENTRAL GRAIN ON THE LARGER PARCEL. IN BOTH CASES, UH, GROUND FLOOR, UH, USES WOULD BE EITHER WORK LIVE SPACES, UH, OR COMMERCIAL SPACES OR SPACES, UH, UH, AMENITIES ASSOCIATED WITH THE RESIDENTIAL CARE FACILITY. UH, NEXT SLIDE. THE GENERAL PLAN, LAND USE DESIGNATION FOR THE SITE CURRENTLY IS, UH, RIVER DEPENDENT, UH, INDUSTRIAL, UH, WITH A, UH, PARK DESIGNATED P THREE IS A DESIGNATE DESIGNATION FOR A TOTAL OF A SEVEN ACRE PARK. IT STRADDLES THE RIVERFRONT, THE SUBJECT SITE, UM, SURROUNDING, UH, GENERAL PLAN LAND USE DESIGNATIONS ARE PRIMARILY, UH, MIXED USE. UH, NEXT, THIS AREA IS PART OF THE CENTRAL PETALUMA SPECIFIC PLAN IN THE SMART CODE APPLIES, UH, THE, UH, UH, ZONING UNDER THIS, UH, SMART CODE IS, UH, AGAIN, IT'S, UH, RIVER DEPENDENT INDUSTRIAL. UM, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THE UH, SMART CODE INCLUDES, UH, DISTANCE TO THE, UH, TRAIN STATION, TO THE SMART STATION. UH, YOU CAN SEE THE HALF MILE RADIUS, UM, WHICH IS UP TOWARDS THE, UH, THE PORTION OF THE SITE THAT FRONTS HOPPER STREET. UH, NEXT SLIDE [00:10:01] PLEASE. THE, UH, PETALUMA RIVER ACCESS AND ENHANCEMENTS, UH, PLAN, UH, SHOWS SEVERAL TRAILS THROUGH THE SITE. UH, THERE'S ONE ALONG THE RIVER, UH, SHOWN IN THE DASH LINE AS A PROPOSED TRAIL. AND THEN THE CIRCLES ARE RIVER ACCESS POINTS. UH, THE APPLICANTS DO INCLUDE A, UH, SMALL CRAFT FLOATING DOCK AS PART OF THEIR PROPOSAL. UH, THERE IS A KIND OF A NORTH SOUTH, UH, PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION, PROPOSED CONNECTION, UH, THAT REALLY IS KIND OF BETWEEN, WHEN LOOKING AT THIS EXHIBIT, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A, UH, CLOSE TO THE BOUNDARY BETWEEN THE RIVERFRONT PROJECT AND, UH, THE SCANNELL PROJECT. AND THEN OVER TOWARDS THE, UH, LEFT SIDE OF THE SITE, JUST KIND OF TO THE LEFT OF THE, UH, RED ARROW, THERE'S A, A CONNECTION TO, TO, UH, HOPPER STREET, UH, FROM THE, FROM THE RIVER AS WELL. AND THAT'S, UH, ON THE PORTION OF THE SITE THAT FRONTS HOPPER STREET. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO, UM, THIS PROJECT, UH, WHEN IT COMES BEFORE THE CITY, UH, FOR FORMAL APPLICATIONS, THEY WILL NEED, UH, BOTH LEGISLATIVE DECISIONS AND QUASI-JUDICIAL DECISIONS BY, UH, BY THE CITY. THE LEGISLATIVE DECISIONS ARE AMENDMENT OF THE, UH, GENERAL PLAN, LAND USE DESIGNATION. UH, THEY INTEND TO CHANGE IT FROM, UH, THE RIVER DEPENDENT INDUSTRIAL TO MIXED USE. AND THEN CHANGING THE ZONING, UH, FROM, UH, UH, FROM RIVER DEPENDENTS TO T FOUR AND T FIVE, WHICH ARE THE TRANSECT ZONES, UH, OF THE SMART CODE. THERE'S ALSO, UH, CIVIC SPACE ALONG THE RIVER THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE PROJECT. UH, SOME OF THE, UH, ZONING LAND USE APPLICATIONS THAT WILL BE REQUIRED, UH, WILL BE A TENANT MAP SITE PLAN IN ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW, ALTERNATIVE COMPLIANCE FOR THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, THAT WILL, UH, AS PRESENTED OR AS THEIR, UH, CONCEPTUAL PLANS SHOW THE, UM, A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE AFFORDABLE UNITS WOULD BE IN, UH, ONE AREA OF THE PROJECT RATHER THAN DISPERSED THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT. AND THAT'S WHAT THE ALTERNATIVE COMPLIANCE, UH, WOULD BE FOR. AND THEN THEY MAY REQUIRE WARRANTS THAT'S, UH, TO BE DETERMINED BASED ON THEIR SPARSE SUBMITTAL. NEXT. SO THIS PROJECT WAS, UH, FIRST SUBMITTED BACK IN FEBRUARY OF 2020. AND AT THAT TIME, IT INCLUDED. AND REALLY THE DRIVER FOR THE PROJECT AT THAT POINT WAS A, UH, NEW HEADQUARTERS AND CAMPUS FOR AMY'S KITCHEN. IT WAS, UH, UM, ALMOST 200,000 SQUARE FEET OF, UH, UH, OFFICE SPACE. IT INCLUDED 72 AFFORDABLE APARTMENTS, AND THEN, UH, ABOUT 160 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS IN A SMALL, UH, UH, RETAIL. UH, THERE WAS NO COMMUNITY PARK THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THAT PROPOSAL. UM, THAT PROPOSAL CAME ACTUALLY BEFORE THIS BODY, UM, THREE YEARS AGO, A LITTLE OVER THREE YEARS AGO, AND THEN TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A STUDY SESSION IN FEBRUARY OF 2022. UH, BASED ON PLANNING COMMISSION INPUTS, THE, UH, APPLICANT'S REVISED THE PLAN. THEY SUBMITTED CONCEPTUAL PROPOSAL FOR PLANNING COMMISSION CONSIDERING, AND, UM, THEY INCLUDED, UM, ADDITIONAL, OR THEY INCLUDED MARKET RATE APARTMENTS RATHER THAN THE OFFICE. SO THE, UH, THE DEMAND FOR OFFICE CHANGE WITH COVID, UH, AMY'S, UH, WAS NO LONGER PART OF THE PROJECT. UM, AND THEN THEY ADDED SOME FEATURES TO THE LINEAR PARK ALONG THE RIVER, UH, AND EXPANDED THE PARK SIZE. UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION PROVIDED ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK BASED ON THAT FEEDBACK. THEY PREPARED THREE CONCEPTUAL SITES ALTERNATIVES, AND THEY PRE PRESENTED THOSE AT A COMMUNITY CHARETTE THAT WAS HELD IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR. UM, THEY THEN CRAFTED A FOURTH ALTERNATIVE BASED ON THE INPUT FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING IN JANUARY AND THE COMMUNITY INPUT IN MARCH, AND PRESENTED THOSE, UH, FOUR ALTERNATIVES TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN JULY. SO JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO. AND THE COUNCIL OR THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, SELECTED ONE OF THE CONCEPTS AS THEIR PREFERRED CONCEPT, AND WE'LL GO TO THAT NEXT. SO THIS WAS THE PREFERRED CONCEPT PLAN THAT WAS, UM, UH, REVIEWED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THERE WERE THREE, UH, ACTUALLY, YEAH, THREE OTHER CONCEPT PLANS. UH, THIS IS THE ONE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAD, UH, STRONGEST PREFERENCE FOR. UM, THERE WAS SOME COMMENTS CON, UH, REGARDING THIS PROJECT, PARTICULARLY RELATED TO CONCERNS WITH POTENTIAL FOR CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC, UM, ESPECIALLY ONCE THE [00:15:01] SOUTHERN CROSSING, UH, OVER THE PETALUMA RIVER IS CONSTRUCTED, WHICH IS, UH, PRETTY CLOSE IN THE TIMELINE, UH, WITH THIS PROJECT'S DEVELOPMENT. AND SO, UH, TO THAT END, THE APPLICANT MADE SOME, SOME ADDITIONAL CHANGES, UH, TO THE, UH, MINOR CHANGES, BUT, UH, WILL HAVE A SIGNIFICANT EFFECT ON, ON TRAFFIC PATTERNS THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE AREA. AND, UH, THE, UH, AS YOU'VE SEEN THIS EXHIBIT, UH, BLOCKS 1, 2, 3, THE, UH, RESIDENTIAL FOR SALE PRODUCT, THEY DID NOT INCLUDE ANY CONCEPTS IN TERMS OF WHAT THAT PRODUCT WOULD BE, WHETHER IT'S DETACHED, SINGLE FAMILY, UH, WHETHER IT WOULD BE, UH, ROW HOMES, YOU KNOW, TOWNHOUSES OR, OR ANY OTHER, YOU KNOW, CONCEPT, UH, OTHER THAN WHAT'S SHOWN ON THIS PLAN. UH, AND THEN THEY, UH, INDICATED THE MARKET RATE APARTMENTS, UH, WHICH ARE IN THE SAME LOCATION AS THE CURRENT PROPOSAL. UM, AND THE, UH, PARK BLOCK FOUR A, UH, ALONG THE, UH, ALONG THE OPEN SPACE BUFFER ALONG THE RIVER AND THE CHANNEL, THE MCNAIR. AND THEN IN THE, UH, WEST CORNER, TOP LEFT CORNER, THIS EXHIBIT, UH, IS WHERE THE AFFORDABLE APARTMENT DID, UH, NEXT SCREEN, PLEASE. SO THIS IS THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN AS THE, AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS. UM, SO PROBABLY THE LARGEST, IT'S BEEN FLESHED OUT A LITTLE BIT. SO THEY HAVE ACTUAL BUILDING FOOTPRINTS. AGAIN, THESE ARE CONCEPTUAL BUILDING FOOTPRINTS, BUT IT DOES GIVE US AN IDEA OF THE DIRECTION THEY'RE GOING IN. UM, THE, PROBABLY THE LARGEST CHANGE IS THE CAULFIELD EXTENSION, UM, INTO THE SITE. SO PREVIOUSLY IT CAME TO A, A FOUR-WAY INTERSECTION AT HIDALGO. UH, NOW THE PROPOSAL IS TO CURVE THE EXTENSION, UM, INCLUDE A TRAFFIC CIRCLE OR ROUNDABOUT AS SHOWN THERE, AND THEN CONNECT INTO THE ROADWAY SEGMENT THAT IS, UH, BETWEEN THE, UH, HOTEL AND PLAY FIELDS IN THE RIVERFRONT PROJECT. UH, ANOTHER, UH, SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN, UH, AT LEAST VEHICULAR CIRCULATION IS, UM, THE ROADWAY SEGMENT BETWEEN HIDALGO AND GUADALUPE STREET, UH, ON THE WEST SIDE, OR EXCUSE ME, THE EAST SIDE OF BLOCK THREE. BETWEEN BLOCK THREE AND THE BALL FIELDS IN THE RIVERFRONT PROJECT, THAT ROADWAY SEGMENT IS REMOVED, AND IT REMAINS JUST AN E V A AND CLASS ONE TRAIL. UH, SOME OF THE OTHER, UH, FEATURES THAT ARE SHOWN ON THIS PLAN THAT, UH, KIND OF FLESHED OUT AT THE CORNER OF, UH, AT THE 90 DEGREE CORNER IN HIDALGO STREET, UM, OVER BETWEEN BLOCKS FIVE AND SIX, UH, THEY HAVE A, UH, RETAIL COMPONENT AND, UH, A, UH, AMENITY SPACE FOR THE APARTMENTS IN BLOCK SIX. UH, AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A PUBLIC PARKING, UH, AREA SHOWN THERE. AND, UH, FLOATING DOCKS KIND OF DASHED IN A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO SEE JUST TO THE RIGHT OF THE MCNAIR CHANNEL LABEL. UM, THE, UH, PEDESTRIAN FEATURES, UH, THEY HAVE A FEW CLASSES OF TRAIL THAT THEY'RE SHOWN HERE, AND WE'LL ACTUALLY LET THE APPLICANT WHO'S THERE, UH, GET INTO DETAILS ABOUT THE, UM, THEIR THOUGHTS BEHIND AND HOW THEY CAME UP WITH THEIR TRAIL CONNECTION OR THEIR TRAIL NETWORK. BUT THEY, UM, DO HAVE THE TRAIL, UH, ALONG THE LINEAR PARK, WHICH IS ALONG THE WATERFRONT OF THE PROJECT. THERE IS A PEDESTRIAN AND, UH, BICYCLE CONNECTION FROM, UH, THE LINEAR PARK OVER THE MCNAIR CHANNEL TO THE, UM, TO THE MCNAIR PENINSULA. UH, AND THAT'S THAT, UH, KIND OF DASHED IN LINE. IT'S NOT LABELED ON THIS PLAN, UM, BUT IT'S, UH, BELOW THE MCNAIR CHANNEL LABEL. UM, THE TRAIL WOULD CONNECT ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THIS EXHIBIT. THAT'S THE SOUTH, UH, EAST SIDE, UH, THE TRAIL ALONG THE RIVER. IT'S A CLASS ONE TRAIL, 14 FEET WIDE, 12 FEET WITH, UH, OR 10 FEET WITH, UH, TWO FOOT SHOULDERS, UH, THAT CONNECTS INTO THE, UH, CLASS ONE TRAIL AT THE RIVERFRONT PROJECT. UM, AND THEN THEY HAVE, UH, PEDESTRIAN TRAILS AND BICYCLE TRAILS, UH, ALONG THE ROADS, AS SHOWN IN THE, UH, GREEN AND BLUE NEXT SCREEN. UH, THIS EXHIBIT JUST CAME IN TODAY, UM, FROM THE APPLICANT, AND IT SHOWS, UM, THEIR PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS, UH, VARIOUS CONNECTIONS THROUGHOUT THE, THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT. SO, UM, UH, MR. UH, WILLIAMS, WALKER WILLIAMS IS THERE THIS EVENING, AND HE CAN, UH, GET INTO DETAILS ABOUT, ABOUT THESE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS. NEXT SCREEN, PLEASE. [00:20:05] SO THE NEXT SERIES OF SCREENS SHOW THE, UH, ROADWAY SEGMENTS. SO THIS IS OUR SECTIONS. SO THIS IS SECTION, UH, A, WHICH IS THROUGH CAULFIELD LANE. UH, CAULFIELD LANE IS EXACTLY UP AT THE TOP THERE. IT'S 72 FOOT RIGHT AWAY. UH, 12 FOOT SIDEWALKS ON, UH, EITHER SIDE WITH, UH, FOUR FOOTS, UH, TREE WELLS. I'M NOT SURE THE SPACING ON THOSE TREE WELLS, BUT, UM, AND THEN THERE'S, UH, SIX FOOT BIKE LANES SEPARATED FROM 11 FOOT TRAVEL LANES BY A, A, A RAISED BUFFER. AND THAT'S, UH, THE SAME ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STRAIGHT. UH, NEXT, UH, THIS IS THE VERACRUZ STREET SEGMENT, SO THAT'S THE KIND OF THE MAIN NORTH SOUTH STREET THROUGH THE PROJECT. SEGMENT B OR SECTION B. UM, THIS IS, UH, 69 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY WITH, UH, FIVE FOOT, OR EXCUSE ME, SIX FOOT SIDEWALKS ON EITHER SIDE. UH, FIVE FOOT PLANTER STRIP. UM, I BELIEVE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S, YEAH, IT IS A, A PARKWAY, NOT A THERE. AS OPPOSED TO THE PRIOR, UH, STREET SECTION WHERE THEY HAD TREE WELLS. THIS IS A PLANTER STRIP THAT RUNS THE LENGTH OF THE, UH, OF THE, UH, OF THE STREET. UM, AND THEN A 10 FOOT WIDE, TWO-WAY, UH, BICYCLE TRACK OR ROADWAY, UH, TRAIL PATH, UH, A SIX FOOT BUFFER. AND THEN, UH, TWO 10 FOOT TRAVEL LANES, YOU KNOW, ONE IN EACH DIRECTION. AND THEN PARKING ON ONE SIDE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE STREET. UM, AND AGAIN, THE, UH, FIVE FOOT PARKWAY STRIP AND SIDEWALK, UM, ON THE OTHER SIDE. UH, AND THAT IS FOR THAT SECTION SHOWN IN BLUE, THAT NORTH, NORTH SOUTH, UH, SEGMENT OF, OF, UH, ROADWAY. UH, NEXT, UH, PICO STREET. UH, SHOULDN'T BE A SMALL P ON PICO. MY MISTAKE, UH, PICO STREET IS ALONG THE, UH, EASTERLY BOUNDARY OF THE PROJECT SITE, UH, SECTION C. UM, AND, UH, SO CURRENTLY THE, THE WAY THIS IS, IS LAID OUT PROJECT IS THERE'S A 10 FOOT MULTI-USE PATH, UH, SEPARATED, UH, WITH A, A FENCE AND A, UH, AC BERM, UH, FROM, UH, AN EV UH, AN E V A, AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE ACCESS ROADWAY. UM, THE PROPOSAL IS TO MAINTAIN THAT ASPECT OF THE PROJECT ON THE RIVERFRONT SIDE. AND THEN ON THE PROJECT SIDE, UH, THERE'D BE A FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK, UH, WITH A, UH, 10 FOOT, UH, UH, TWO 10 FOOT TRAVEL LANES, ONE IN EACH DIRECTION. AND THAT IS, UM, I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S ALONG THE ENTIRE SEGMENT. UH, I THINK THAT'S JUST ON THAT SEGMENT BETWEEN GUADALUPE STREET AND BATISTA WAY. UH, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A SECTION THROUGH THE E V A WHERE IT'S NEXT TO THE BALL FIELDS, AND THAT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN, UH, DEVELOPED YET. UH, NEXT SLIDE AWAY IS THE STREETS THAT EXTENDS FROM THE RIVERFRONT PROJECT ALONG THE, UH, ALONG THE, UH, LINEAR PARKWAY. UM, AND THEN SORT OF TURNS AWAY FROM THE RIVER. UH, AND THIS IS, UH, A 56 AND A HALF FOOT RIGHT AWAY, UH, PARKING ON THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT SIDE VERSUS THE OPEN SPACE SIDE OF THE STREET, UH, TWO 12 FOOT, OR EXCUSE ME, TWO 10 FOOT TRAVEL LANES. UM, AND THEN THERE, UH, IS A, LOOKS LIKE IT'S A FIVE FOOT PARKWAY WITH SIX FOOT SIDEWALKS, UM, ON, UH, ON EACH SIDE. UH, NEXT. AND THEN THIS IS, UH, THE SEGMENT, UH, SECTION FOR HIDALGO STREET ALGO IS, UH, THE STREET THAT KIND OF FORMS THE NORTH, UH, BOUNDARY OF THE PROJECT. UM, THERE, THERE SHOW TWO SECTIONS. SO, UM, THE, UH, TOP SECTION IS, IS KINDA WHAT THE PRIMARY SECTION WOULD BE. SO IT'S A 60 FOOT FOOT RIGHT AWAY. UH, SO ON THE DEVELOPMENT SIDE OF THE PROJECT, YOU'VE GOT THE 12 FOOT, UM, MULTI-USE PATH, UH, THEN EIGHT FEET OF, UH, PARKING TO 11 FOOT TRAVEL LANES, AND THEN, UH, 11 FOOT SIDEWALK WITH, UH, FIVE FOOT TREE WELLS. UM, AND THEN, UH, SECTION SHOWS PATENTLY THERE WOULD BE, UH, UH, BALL BOUTS THAT WOULD ACCOMMODATE, UH, TREES. AND SO THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TOP AND THE BOTTOM SECTION IS THE, UH, BALL BOUTS TO, TO PUT THE TREES. UM, [00:25:01] THEY DON'T HAVE A PLAN VIEW THAT SHOWS THE SPACING ON THAT, UM, BUT I'D IMAGINE IT WOULD BE EVERY CERTAIN NUMBER OF CAR LENGTHS, UH, BETWEEN THE PARKING SPACES. UH, NEXT SCREEN PLEASE. UH, THIS IS ALONG HOPPER STREET, THE SEGMENT, UH, THE ONE SECTION OF THE PROJECT THAT FRONT HOPPER STREET. UM, SO ON THE PROJECT SIDE, THEY HAVE, UM, A, LOOKS LIKE IT'S A 14 FOOT SIDEWALK WITH FOUR FOOT TREE WELLS. UH, THEN A, UM, SIX FOOT TRAVEL LANE, I PRESUME THAT'S A, A BICYCLE LANE. AND THEN TWO, TWO TRAVEL LANES, UH, OR FOUR FOOT BUFFER, AND THEN TWO 10 FOOT TRAVEL LINES FOR VEHICLES, UM, AND NO SIDEWALK, UH, ON THE, UM, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE, THE SMART RAILROAD SIDE OF THE, UH, OF THE TRACKS. UH, NEXT, THIS IS A DETAIL OF THE, UH, ROUNDABOUT, UM, BY THE PROJECT'S NORTHERLY NORTHEASTERLY ENTRANCE. UM, I CAN LET THE, UH, APPLICANT AND THEIR ENGINEER GET INTO THE DETAILS OF THE DESIGN OF THE, UH, OF THE ROUNDABOUT. UH, NEXT, SO THERE ARE A FEW DISCUSSION POINTS THAT, UH, WE'D LAID OUT IN THE STAFF REPORTS. UH, UM, I'M SURE THERE ARE MANY OTHER AREAS THAT, UH, THE COMMITTEE WOULD LIKE TO, TO IN TERMS OF, UH, DISCUSS PROJECT. UH, IT'S JUST A, A LIST OF A FEW, UH, QUESTIONS OR POINTS THAT, UH, WE THOUGHT, UH, WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR THE COMMISSION OR THE, UH, APPLICANTS TO HEAR FROM THE COMMITTEE. UH, NEXT. SO AFTER THE, UH, THE COMMITTEE PROVIDES ITS INPUTS, UH, THE APPLICANT WILL, UH, THEY STILL HAVE NOT MADE A FORMAL SUBMITTAL TO THE, TO THE CITY. WE HAVE JUST CONCEPTUAL APPLICATIONS. UH, THEY'LL MAKE A FORMAL SUBMITTAL. UM, WE'LL REVIEW THAT SUBMITTAL TO ENSURE IT IS COMPLETE. UH, WE'LL REVISE THE TECHNICAL, UM, REPORTS OR THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT THAT HAD BEEN, UH, PREPARED FOR THE INITIAL FORMAL SUBMITTAL THAT WAS SUBMITTED BACK IN 2020. UM, THE DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT WILL BE PREPARED, CIRCULATED FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, UH, AND THEN WE WILL HAVE PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THE PROJECT. UH, NEXT. SO WE, UH, RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THE, UH, COMMITTEE DISCUSS THE, UH, THE PROJECT AND, UH, PROVIDE ITS INPUT, UH, FOR CONSIDERATION BY THE APPLICANT AND BY THE, UH, BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. AND, UH, I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMITTEE MAY HAVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, EMMANUEL. UM, DOES THE COMMITTEE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? MARSH? MARSHA, I HAVE A QUESTION. IT REGARDS THE BRIDGE OVER TO THE MCNAIR PARK. IS THAT PART OF THIS PROJECT? IN OTHER WORDS, THE BRIDGE IS GO, OH, SHOULD I ANSWER THAT QUESTION? I CAN'T ANSWER . I'M THE APPLICANT. SO MY NAME'S WALKER WILLIAMS. I'M A DEVELOPMENT MANAGER WITH SCANNELL PROPERTIES. UM, SO YES, THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE TO MCNAIR PARK WILL BE PART OF THE PROJECT AND CAN ALSO, AND WHEN YOU, IN, IN THAT SAME REGARD, IS THERE A TIMEFRAME IF YOU WERE TO GET CITIES OKAY ON THIS PROJECT, IS THERE A TIMEFRAME WHEN WE COULD EXPECT TO ACTUALLY SEE THAT BEING CONSTRUCTED? YES, IT WOULD BE CONCURRENTLY WITH WHEN WE BUILD THE, UH, THE RIVERFRONT TRAIL. SO IT WOULD BE AT THE SAME TIME AS THE REST OF THE PROJECT. THAT'S GREAT BECAUSE I OFTENTIMES FIND MYSELF ON HOPPER STREET AND HOPPER STREET IS NOT A PLACE THAT IS CONDUCIVE TO WALKING NOR BIKING. AND WITH ALL THE KIDS IN THIS TOWN AND THE KIDS THAT HOPEFULLY WILL BE LIVING IN THESE KINDS OF AREAS, THEY NEED FULL ACCESS TO EVERYTHING IN A SAFE, SAFE MANNER. AND THIS PROVIDES, UM, THIS GETS OUR KIDS THAT ARE LIVING OUT HERE, UM, UP OFF HOPPER STREET AND OVER TO THE PARK AND IN A SAFER DIRECTION TO GET DOWNTOWN. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. AGREED. YES. THANK YOU, MARSHA. BRIAN? YEAH, I'VE GOT QUITE A FEW QUESTIONS. UM, FIRST QUESTION ON THE AFFORDABLE, THERE'S THIS BIG GREEN BLOCK, UM, IN BETWEEN THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THE, UM, BLOCK SIX, BLOCK SEVEN AND BLOCK SIX, AND I'M WONDERING WHAT THAT IS. IT'S LIKE A DIFFERENT COLOR THAN THE OTHERS. YES. THAT'S A PARK THAT'S GOING TO SEPARATE BLOCK SIX AND BLOCK SEVEN. UM, WE [00:30:01] HAVEN'T PROGRAMMED IT YET, BUT THE IDEA WOULD, WOULD BE THAT IT'S, UM, IT COULD BE AN ACTIVE PARK OR A PASSIVE PARK. SO WE COULD HAVE A SIDEWALK. AS YOU SEE, WE HAVE, UM, WE HAVE AN ARROW FOR PEDESTRIAN ACCESS. SO THE IDEA WOULD BE YOU COULD, UM, WALK FROM HOPPER STREET DOWN TO THE RIVERFRONT TRAIL, BUT IT ALSO JUST PROVIDES EXTRA, UH, PLAY SPACE OR OPEN SPACE FOR PEOPLE LIVING IN THE AFFORDABLE BLOCK OR, UM, ON BLOCK SIX. OKAY. UM, NEXT QUESTION. I THINK IT WAS ON THE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS. THERE WAS A LOT MORE. OKAY. YEAH, I WISH WE WOULD'VE GOT THESE SLIDES AHEAD OF TIME. UM, PROBABLY COULD HAVE ANSWERED A LOT OF MY QUESTIONS, BUT I'M GONNA ASK 'EM ANYWAY. UM, THEN LET'S SEE HERE. SO YOU SAID THE BRIDGE WAS INCLUDED. 'CAUSE THEN THERE WAS A POTENTIAL, UM, DO YOU HAVE A SE WHAT DOES C THREE AREA MEAN? THERE'S A LOTS OF C THREE AREAS AROUND. YEAH, THOSE ARE STORMWATER AREAS. SO THEY'RE PLANNED FOR STORMWATER DETENTION AND, UM, UH, BIO RETENTION. SO IT'S, IT'S BASICALLY QUALITY AND QUANTITY CONTROL OF STORMWATER. OKAY. UM, IS THERE A REASON WHY THE, THE RETAIL WAS LOCATED WHERE IT IS? YES. IT'S, IT'S THERE, WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT AS KIND OF THE, UM, THE CENTER FOR THE DEVELOPMENT FOR VISITORS TO THE DEVELOPMENT, NOT SPECIFICALLY GOING TO A HOME. UM, IT'S, IT'S NEARBY THE RIVER, SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE RIVER FROM HIDALGO STREET AT THAT POINT. AND THERE'S A, THERE'S A PRIVATE PARKING AREA THERE AS WELL, KIND OF ADJACENT TO THE RETAIL AND WHAT WE'RE HOPING WOULD BE A RESTAURANT. SO WE'RE, WE'RE SEEING THIS AS KIND OF, UM, MAIN AND MAINE FOR OUR DEVELOPMENT, WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD BE VISITING, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT WHO DON'T LIVE THERE. OKAY. SO THERE'S A, UM, NOT ONLY IS, IS IT PRETTY CLOSE TO THE BRIDGE WHERE YOU CAN WALK ACROSS TO MENE, BUT ALSO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE PLANNING OUR SMALL WATERCRAFT, UM, BOAT LAUNCH MM-HMM. . SO KAYAK, STANDUP, PADDLE BOARDS, THAT TYPE OF THING. OKAY. AND THEN, I DON'T KNOW IF I SAW IT IN THE STAFF REPORT, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS IN TOTAL NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES. YES. SO ON THE FOURTH ATTACHMENT, UM, THE OVERALL PROJECT DATA, THERE'S A TABLE, BUT I'LL JUST GIVE IT TO YOU. THE TOTAL NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES IS 655. THOSE ARE ONLY PRIVATE SPACES, NOT ON STREET SPACES. AND THEN THE NUMBER OF TOTAL UNITS IS 469. THAT'S A COMBINATION OF SINGLE AND MULTIFAMILY AND AFFORDABLE. OKAY. UM, THE, IN THE, TO BE CLEAR, THE, IN THE, THE, THE GRAPHIC THAT WE WERE GIVEN, THERE'S A, AN ELEMENT CALLED THE GREEN STREET OR GREENWAY PROMENADE THAT'S PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLES, CORRECT? YEAH. ORIGINALLY WHEN WE PROPOSED THE CONCEPT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN ON JUNE 27TH, IT WAS PLANNED TO BE A VEHICULAR ROAD, BUT WE HEARD COMMENTS, MULTIPLE COMMENTS THAT IT WOULD BE NICE IF YOU COULD TAKE AWAY THE ROAD AND JUST PROVIDE IT FOR PEDESTRIAN ONLY. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE. WE'VE NARROWED THE RIGHT OF WAY AND WE'VE PROVIDED JUST FOR PEDESTRIANS, WE DO. UM, WE'D LIKE YOUR FEEDBACK ON THAT, BUT, UM, IF YOU WOULD LIKE THAT TO ALSO BE FOR A, A BIKE PATH, WE COULD DO THAT AS WELL. OKAY. AND THEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD GREENWAY, WHEN I LOOKED AT THE, WHEN I, I THOUGHT WHEN I LOOKED AT THE, UM, THE SECTION ON THAT, UH, IT DIDN'T ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE THERE WAS ANY BIKE LANE ON THAT. IS THAT WHAT, WHAT'S YOUR DEFINITION OF A NEIGHBORHOOD GREENWAY? I GUESS RIGHT NOW IT'S MAINLY JUST FOR PEDESTRIAN ACCESS. SO IT WOULD, IT'S DEFINITELY GOING TO BE AT A MINIMUM, A SIX FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK, BUT WE COULD MAKE IT, UH, LARGER. OKAY. UM, UH, THEN ON VERACRUZ STREET, AND, UM, I GUESS IT'D BE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OTHER STREET IS THERE ALONG THE, THE ONE THAT'S SORT OF WALLED OFF, ARE THOSE GONNA BE FENCES? UM, FRONTING THAT STREET? IS THAT THE PLAN ON, ON VERACRUZ? BASICALLY, I, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT FAR, BUT NO, WE'RE NOT PLANNING ON PUTTING FENCES UP. OKAY. BUT, BUT TO BE CLEAR, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT FAR IN PLANNING. GOT YOU. OKAY. UM, AND THEN I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A SENSE OF WHERE WE'RE AT IN THE PLANNING SO WE CAN MAKE SURE I'M CURTAILING MY FEEDBACK DURING COMMENTS. UM, THEN I THINK YOU ANSWERED THE, THE DIFFERENT COLORS ON THE, ON THERE. UM, THERE'S LIKE THREE DIFFERENT COLORS. BLOCK THREE, BLOCK FOUR, THERE'S LIKE A DARK ORANGE, A LIGHTER ORANGE, AND THEN LIKE A TAN. BUT I DIDN'T, THEY'RE NOT INCLUDED IN THE LEGEND. CAN YOU, UM, SHINE SOME LIGHT ON, ON WHAT THOSE ARE? OH, SURE. YEAH. LET ME, SO, SO BLOCK ONE AND BLOCK TWO, YOU SEE THOSE ARE THE SAME COLORS. THOSE ARE, UH, MOSTLY DUETS WHERE THEY, WHERE THEY SHARE A COMMON WALL. SO THEY'RE STILL ATTACHED FOR THE MOST PART. I THINK [00:35:01] THERE'S A COUPLE OF STRUCTURES THAT ARE SEPARATE. FOR THE MOST PART, THEY'RE ATTACHED, UM, TWO STORY HOMES. MM-HMM. , THEN YOU MOVE OVER TO BLOCK THREE AND FOUR, AND THOSE ARE ALL TOWN HOMES. SO YOU CAN SEE THEY SHARE SEVERAL WALLS IN, IN A CONTIGUOUS STRUCTURE. RIGHT. I'M WONDERING, IS THERE A REASON WHY THEY'RE DIFFERENT COLORS? I GUESS IT, IT MADE ME WONDER, LIKE ARE THEY DIFFERENT USES? ARE THEY DIFFERENT? UH, WELL, THEY'RE DIFFERENT BUILDING TYPES. SO THE DUETS ONLY HAVE, UH, TWO UNITS THAT SHARE A STRUCTURE OR SHARE A WALL. AND FOR THE TOWN HOMES, THOSE SHARE SEVERAL, I THINK FIVE FOR A CONTINUOUS BUILDING. AND THEN THE DARKER COLOR IS A THREE STORY WORK, LIVE TOWN HOME. GOT YOU. SO THEY'RE DIFFERENT. UH, IT'S DIFFERENT TYPOLOGIES. OKAY, GREAT. IT WASN'T ON THE, ON THE ONE WHERE WAS THE NEXT GRAPHIC THAT DIDN'T HAVE THAT? YEAH, SORRY ABOUT THAT LEVEL DETAIL. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. UM, UM, WHEN YOU SAY AMENITY, IS THAT LIKE A COMMUNITY CENTER? WHAT'S THE, WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY AMENITY BUILDING? IT WOULD BE AN AMENITY FOR THE APARTMENT. SO IT WOULD BE, UM, LIKE A WORKOUT FACILITY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. MAYBE A, UM, IT, IT COULD BE A COMMUNITY AREA WHERE YOU COULD RENT IT OUT OR, OR JUST HAVE IT FOR SOME SORT OF PUBLIC MEETING, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. OKAY. UM, IS THERE ANY PLANNED SPACES FOR DAYCARE, DOG PARKS, THINGS LIKE THAT? CHILDCARE. UM, WE'VE CONTEMPLATED A DOG PARK IN THE LITTLE PENINSULA. THE AREA WHERE THE, THE BRIDGE IS GOING OVER TO MCNAIR. UM, WE'VE HEARD SOME NEGATIVE FEEDBACK ON THE DOG PARK, BUT IT'S, IT'S DEFINITELY OPEN. SO WE'RE OPEN TO PROGRAM THE PARK HOWEVER THE CITY WOULD LIKE. OKAY. AND NO CHILDCARE THOUGH? UM, NO PLANNED CHILDCARE AT THE MOMENT? NO. ANY COMMUNITY SPACES? UM, SORT OF FLEXIBLE SPACES? UH, WELL, THE LIVE WORK HAS FLEXIBLE SPACES, SO ON THE BOTTOM YOU WOULD HAVE, UM, OPTION FOR SOME SORT OF COMMERCIAL MM-HMM. , AND THEN THE UPPER TWO FLOORS WOULD BE STRICTLY RESIDENTIAL. OKAY. SO THOSE, THOSE WOULD BE ZONED APPROPRIATELY. SO THAT'S THE, ALL OF THE STUFF ON HIDALGO STREET THERE? CORRECT. I THINK THERE ARE 11 UNITS THAT UNITS LIVE WORK. OKAY. THOSE ARE THREE STORY LIVE WORK TOWN HOMES. ALRIGHT. AND THEN JUST, UM, IT STRIKES ME THAT THE BLOCKS, UM, THE, THE NEIGHBORS WHO SHOWED UP AND SAID THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT ANY THROUGH TRAFFIC GOING THROUGH AND STUFF REALLY WAS TAKEN PRETTY LITERALLY. IS THERE A REASON WHY WE, UM, REALLY CREATED SOME SORT OF SUBURBAN MAZES THERE AND BLOCKS 3, 4, 1, 1, 2, 3 AND FOUR? I'D SAY 2, 3, 4. I DON'T THINK I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION. I MEAN, THEY'RE JUST, IT'S QUITE LITERALLY ONE WAY IN. RIGHT. ON BLOCK ONE AND THREE FOR SURE. THERE'S ONE ENTRANCE POINT ON VERA CRUZ. RIGHT. SO WE'RE, YEAH. SO WE'RE ANTICIPATING, UM, IMAGINE IF YOU'RE COMING IN CAULFIELD LANE EXTENSION, YOU GO THROUGH THE ROUNDABOUT AND THEN YOU SIT AT THE STOP SIGN. UM, I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT THAT STREET IS CALLED, BUT YOU'RE TRYING TO TAKE A RIGHT AND, AND GO OVER THE BRIDGE TO THE SOUTH TO DOWNTOWN AREA. UM, IF THAT BACKS UP AT ALL, WE'RE EXPECTING PEOPLE TO BE CUTTING THROUGH TO SAVE TIME AND WE'RE EXPECTING THEM TO SPEED. SO THE IDEA IS TO CUT THAT OFF. OKAY. AND SO INSTEAD OF HAVING THAT AS A THROUGH ROAD, IT WOULD JUST BE FOR E V A TRAFFIC ONLY. OKAY. THAT, THAT'S THE IDEA BEHIND IT. ALRIGHT. UM, THANK YOU FOR SHARING. UM, AND THEN I, AND THEN I GUESS THE OTHER THING, UM, THE ORIENTATION, AM I TO SAY THAT THE ON VERACRUZ AND BATIST AWAY, THOSE ARE ALL GONNA BE BACKYARDS SORT OF FACING IN. SO LIKE IT MIGHT NOT BE A FENCE, BUT THOSE WILL BE BACKYARDS AND THAT THE FRONT YARDS WOULD BE THE IN INTERIOR PORTIONS OF THOSE. GOOD QUESTION. IF I COULD, UM, IF I COULD ASK K T G Y OR ARCHITECTS WHO ARE ON THE CALL RIGHT NOW. SURE. IF I COULD ASK THEM TO RESPOND TO THAT. LILY, ARE YOU ON THE CALL? UM, I'M HERE WALKER JILL. OH, HEY JILL. THANK YOU. SO THOSE ARE ALL FRONT DOORS, UM, WITH FRONT PORCHES FACING ON TO ALL THE SURROUNDING STREETS. AND SO THE TOWN HOMES DO HAVE SOME SMALL PRIVATE YARDS, UM, A LITTLE BIT BEHIND THE DUETS HAVE THEIR LITTLE PRIVATE YARDS TO THE ALLEY SIDE. SO REALLY YOU WOULDN'T BE SEEING FENCING ALONG THE MAJOR STREETS. YOU'D BE LOOKING AT ALL FRONTAGES. UM, LIKE I SAID, WITH PORCHES, MAYBE SOME, UH, SMALL PATIOS. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS FOR NOW. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY. DARREN, GO AHEAD, . UH, OKAY, I'LL RUN THROUGH MY QUESTIONS. UM, SO THE FIRST OF WHICH, UH, HOW MUCH ARE YOU GUYS HARMONIZING WITH RIVERFRONT NEXT DOOR WHEN IT COMES TO CLASS OF TRAILS AND WAY FINDING? SO I, I THINK OUR TRAIL WILL BE SOMEWHAT OF AN UPGRADE. UM, IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S BEEN [00:40:01] BUILT NEXT DOOR, IT'S MORE OF A PASSIVE TRAIL WHERE YOU'VE GOT BENCHES AND PICNIC TABLES. UM, OUTSIDE OF THAT, THERE'S REALLY NOT MUCH TO IT. SO I THINK THAT'S WHY THIS WAS, UM, KIND OF A, AN ADVANTAGEOUS PLAN THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKED IS BECAUSE WE'RE, WE WANT TO ACTIVELY PROGRAM THE THREE AND A HALF ACRES ALONG THE RIVERFRONT. SO, UM, WE'LL BE BRINGING EITHER A DOG PARK, COULD BE A VOLLEYBALL COURT, COULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, A, A CHILDCARE, A CHILDREN'S PARK, UM, TO THE THREE AND A HALF ACRES OF OPEN SPACE. BUT AS FAR AS THE ACTUAL 14 FEET OF, OF, UH, MULTI-USE TRAIL GOES, IT'S GOING TO BE VERY SIMILAR. IT'S GOING TO BE AN ASPHALT TRAIL, SAME WIDTH. UM, FROM WHAT I KNOW, I BELIEVE THEY BUILT A 14 FOOT WIDE TRAIL, SO IT WOULD SEAMLESSLY, AS FAR AS THE ACTUAL TRAIL GOES, IT WOULD SEAMLESSLY INTERACT WITH, UH, RIVERFRONT. AND THEN FOR SIGNAGE AND WAY FINDING, ARE YOU COMMUNICATING WITH THEIR TEAM OR DO YOU HAVE ANY INDICATIONS WHAT THEY'RE USING AND HOW YOU COULD KIND OF FALL INTO LINE? JUST SO IT'D BE NICE IF THOSE ARE SIMILAR ACROSS THE SITES? DEFINITELY AGREE. YEAH. SO, UM, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVEN'T DEVELOPED A CROSS SECTION FOR, UM, FOR PICO AS FAR AS LIKE WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE WITH THE FENCING, WE DO KNOW WHAT THEY'VE USED AND WE HAVE TALKED TO THEIR ENGINEERING TEAM SO WE KNOW WHAT, WHAT EXACTLY WHAT THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT MATERIAL IS. SO WE COULD EITHER MATCH IT OR DO SOMETHING VERY CLOSE TO IT. OKAY. OKAY. GREAT. UM, AND THEN YOU GOT TO TWO OF MY OTHER QUESTIONS. FIRST OF WHICH WAS BENCHES, UH, PEDESTRIAN BENCHES ESPECIALLY, I THINK ALONG THAT OUTER CLASS ONE TRAIL, EVEN SOME KIND OF BENCHES FACING THE RIVER WOULD BE NICE. UH, HAVE YOU GUYS THOUGHT ABOUT THAT AT ALL? UM, I KNOW THERE'S CITY REQUIREMENTS, I THINK IT'S OVER 200 FEET MM-HMM. , UM, HAS THAT, HOW HAS THAT SHOWN UP IN THE PLANS FOR YOU GUYS? YEAH, SO YOU'LL, YOU'LL SEE IF YOU LOOK ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE TRAIL, UH, WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THAT NATURAL AND THAT'S, THAT'S INTENTIONAL. AT ONE POINT IN THE PLAN, WE HAD THAT AS, AS A NEW PROGRAMMED PARK AND WE HEARD FEEDBACK FROM PLANNING COMMISSION THAT, THAT, THAT NEEDED TO STAY AS NATURAL AS POSSIBLE. SO WE DON'T HAVE, WE'RE NOT IMPACTING ANYTHING SOUTH OF THE TRAIL AT THIS POINT. UM, SO EVERYTHING NORTH OF THE TRAIL IS WHAT WE PLAN TO BUILD. THAT'S, THAT'S NEW. UM, AND YES, WE WOULD LIKE TO PUT SOME SORT OF NETWORK OF, UM, BENCHES, PICNIC TABLES, AND EVEN SOMETHING LIKE FITNESS EQUIPMENT THAT WOULD ATTRACT PEOPLE TO THE TRAIL. AND SO YOU COULD PERIODICALLY STOP AND EAT OR WHATEVER. OKAY. UH, YEAH, AND I APPRECIATE THAT RESPONSIVENESS THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION PROCESS. I SEE A LOT OF THAT, UH, SHOWING UP HERE. UH, AND THEN DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA OF TREE PLANTING PLANS? SO FAR, BECAUSE I NOTICED, I MEAN, I LOVE THE BALL BALL BOUTS ON HIDALGO. I LOVE GIVING SPACE FOR MORE TREES, BIGGER TREES, MORE SHADE. MM-HMM. , UH, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, THAT REALLY WOULD HELP OUR BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN NETWORK IS LOOKING AT CANOPY COVERAGE TO MAKE IT MORE USABLE. UH, SO RIGHT NOW, DO YOU HAVE ANY SENSE OF TREE SPECIES YOU'RE PLANNING ON HOW THAT FITS WITH THE CURRENT TREE WELLS? I KNOW FOR SYCAMORES THINGS LIKE THAT, FOUR FEET MIGHT BE DOABLE. I THINK SIX FEET IS, IS KIND OF PRESCRIBED. I KNOW THAT'S TOUGH GIVING, GIVING STREET DESIGN, SO ANY IDEA ABOUT WHAT, WHAT SPECIES WE'RE LOOKING AT. SO I DON'T IF ANYBODY ON THE CALL KNOWS THAT, UH, PLEASE SPEAK UP. I DON'T THINK WE'VE GOTTEN THAT POINT YET. BUT I WILL SAY AS FAR AS THE TREE WELLS GO, UM, IN THE SMART CODE IT'S LISTED THAT FOUR FEET WIDE IS KIND OF THE STANDARD AND WE'VE TRIED TO UP THAT TO FIVE OR SIX FEET DEPENDING ON THE LOCATION. SO WE'RE, WE'RE CONTEMPLATING, YOU KNOW, HOW TO KEEP THOSE TREES AS HEALTHY AS POSSIBLE. UH, BUT AS FAR AS THE ACTUAL SPECIES, I DON'T THINK WE'VE GOTTEN THERE YET. AND I'LL JUST THROW IN, AND I DID SEE THAT, I DID SEE FIVE FEET SHOWING UP, THE EIGHT F EIGHT FOOT BALL BOUTS. I THINK IF THERE'S ANYTHING TO DO ON HOPPER STREET TO EXPAND THAT, I THINK HAVING SOME OF THE BIG SHADE TREES ON HOPPER WOULD BE GREAT. JUST FOR BEAUTIFYING. THAT AREA IS A GREAT, UH, ENTRANCE PIECE. AND UM, AND THEN REALLY QUICK, UH, I'M GONNA TRY NOT TO GET INTO COMMENTARY. I KNOW I WANT TO ANSWER STAFF'S QUESTIONS. TRY NOT TO GET INTO COMMENTARY HERE. UH, SURFACES, UM, JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU SAID ASPHALT SURFACE. I ALWAYS LIKE TO PROCLAIM WE NEED MORE PERMEABLE, BUT I KNOW SOMETIMES WITH WATER MANAGEMENT WE DON'T WANT A TON OF PERMEABLE. UM, SO IF YOU HAVE A PERCENTAGE OR ANY ROUGH THOUGHTS YOU GUYS HAVE HAD ON MATERIALS, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF PERMEABLE SURFACE VERSUS VERSUS NON? YEAH. UM, I DON'T HAVE A PERCENTAGE. SO JULIA, IF YOU'RE ON THE CALL FROM C S W, I'D LOVE THIS. UH, JUST BRIEFLY BEFORE YOU GET ON JULIE, I, I, I KNOW WE'RE TRYING TO PUT IN PERMEABLE WHERE WE CAN, SO I THINK THAT'S MAINLY ALLEYWAYS AND UM, AND PARKING SPACES. BUT JULIE, I'LL, I'LL LET YOU ANSWER THAT. YEAH, THANK YOU WALKER. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. UM, I'M JULIA HARSON WITH, UH, CS WSD TWO. I'M WORKING WITH SCANNELL HERE, UH, AS AN ENGINEER. AND, UH, WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING SPECIFICALLY WITHIN LIKE WALKS ONE, THREE, THE 1, 2, 3, AND FOUR, DEVELOPING A PERVIOUS PAYMENT SECTION THAT WOULD BOTH SUPPORT, UM, [00:45:01] TRUCKLOADS, YOU KNOW, AS WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PERMIT FIRE TRUCKS TO GO IN THERE. UM, SO WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC, UM, PERCENTAGE, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE WITHIN THE PUBLIC RIGHTS OF WAY, UH, JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T WANNA HAVE TO PUT THAT ON THE CITY FOR MAINTENANCE. AND THEN WITH THE CLASS ONE SHARED MULTI-USE, IS THERE ANY OPTION FOR PERMEABLE THERE OR IS ASPHALT PRESCRIBED BASED ON, YOU KNOW, THE CLASS OR SOME OTHER FACTOR ABOUT THE SITE SPECIFICALLY? YOU MEAN THE, THE CREEK TRAIL? YEAH, THE CREEK TRAIL AND THEN POTENTIALLY THE TRAIL ALONG HIDALGO AS WELL. UH, WELL AT THIS POINT WE HAVE REALLY JUST BEEN LOOKING AT THE ASPHALT TO CONTINUE THE CONTINUITY WITH THE ADJACENT DEVELOPMENT. UH, ADDITIONALLY IT, IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE ARMORED AND, YOU KNOW, LONGER LASTING THAN SOME OF THESE PERMEABLE SYSTEMS. NOW ALONG AGO WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT IT BASICALLY LIKE A CLASS ONE MADE OUT OF CONCRETE IN A SIDEWALK FASHION, UH, PARTLY TO CONTINUE TO KEEP THE STREET FEEL TO IT. UH, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT SOMETHING ELSE. I DON'T KNOW THAT FROM A PERMEABILITY AND A LONG-TERM MAINTENANCE PERSPECTIVE, IF THAT WOULD BE PREFERRED IN THAT LOCATION. OKAY. YEAH. AND LI AND LIKE I SAID, I'M USUALLY A PROPONENT OF IT, BUT I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF COMPLEXITY THAT GOES INTO USING PERMEABLE SURFACES. I THINK, UM, ALONG THE RIVER, JUST TAKING A LOOK AT THE WATER ENGINEERING OF THAT, WHETHER IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE MORE INFILTRATION THERE INSTEAD OF RUNNING OFF POTENTIALLY INTO THE RIVER AND SOME OF THOSE OTHER CONSIDERATIONS, UM, I THINK IS WORTHWHILE. WELL, I WILL SAY, I KNOW JULIE, WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION, SO WHEN YOU GET THAT CLOSE TO THE RIVER, UM, RUNNING OFF INTO THE RIVER IS ACTUALLY FINE. IT DOESN'T REALLY IMPACT ANYTHING BECAUSE TYPICALLY IF IT RAINS FOR A LONG TIME, IT TAKES, IT TAKES TIME FOR ALL THE WATER TO COLLECT IN THE WATERSHED AND MAKE ITS WAY TO THE RIVER. SO IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S ACTUALLY GOOD TIMING IF YOU PUT, GO AHEAD AND PUT THAT WATER BACK INTO THE RIVER DOESN'T REALLY IMPACT THE, UH, FLOOD, UH, POTENTIAL FOR THE AREA. SO WE, WE HAVE DISCUSSED THAT, BUT I THINK, UM, IN THIS CASE, JUST FOR THE LONGEVITY OF THE, UH, THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT 14 FOOT TRAIL, I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR IT TO BE IMPERMEABLE AND THAT WAS EXACTLY THE KIND OF WATER ENGINEERING CONSIDERATIONS I WAS TALKING ABOUT. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. AND THEN THE FINAL QUESTION, UH, FOR SOME REASON I, I RECALL, ARE WE DOING ANY OFFSITE, UH, IMPROVEMENT OF BIKE AND PED INFRASTRUCTURE AS PART OF THIS PROJECT OR NO, STRICTLY ONSITE. I, FOR SOME REASON I EVER RECALL SOMETHING ALONG HOPPER MM-HMM. OR IS THAT WISHFUL THINKING ON MY PART? UM, WELL I THINK WE HAD, WE HAD CITED THAT UM, WE KNOW THERE ARE SOME CHALLENGES WITH TRYING TO GET OFFSITE, UM, IMPROVEMENTS DONE BECAUSE THE RIGHT OF WAY IS SO TIGHT ON HOPPER STREET BETWEEN OUR SITE AND D STREET. SO, UM, WE WOULD HAVE TO PURCHASE SOME PRIVATE PROPERTY IN ORDER TO DO THAT. SO I THINK THOSE ARE THE CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH. IT'S NOT JUST A MATTER OF INSTALLING A SIDEWALK ON RIGHT OF WAY THAT EXISTS TODAY. WE WOULD HAVE TO DO SOME SORT OF, UH, EITHER WORK WITH THE CITY ON AN IMMINENT DOMAIN OR PURCHASE IT PRIVATELY. SO I THINK THAT WOULD KIND OF KEEP US FROM DOING THAT IN A TIMELY FASHION. OKAY. ALRIGHT. WELL PRUDENT NOT TO INCLUDE IT IN THIS PLAN THEN. UH, BUT YEAH, I'LL SAVE COMMENTS ON WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE ON WAYFINDING AND ALL THAT. UM, UH, THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU KELLY. THANKS. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE SPEED LIMIT IS ON HOPPER AND HIDALGO OR WHAT THE PLAN FOR HIDALGO? GOOD QUESTION. I DO NOT JEFF, HERE, I'LL INVITE JEFF TO COME UP. SURE. JEFF RUBAL WITH FAIR AND PIERCE. HE'S OUR, UH, TRAFFIC CONSULTANT. WE KNOW JEFF. HI JEFF. HEY. HEY EVERYBODY. UM, YEAH, THE, THE OPERATING SPEED ON ALGO WITH THAT TURN IS PROBABLY IN THE 20 MILE AN HOUR RANGE. WE HAVEN'T REALLY TALKED ABOUT OTHER TRAFFIC HAULING FEATURES TO KEEP IT KIND OF LOW SPEED, BUT THE LANE WAS PRETTY, PRETTY NARROW. UM, AND THE SEPARATION BETWEEN THE BIKE PATH ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND THE STREET INCLUDES THE TREE COVER THAT WAS MENTIONED A LITTLE BIT BEFORE. SO IS THE, I BELIEVE WE SAW A HOPPER WITH A BIKE BIKE LANE WITH A BUFFER. WAS THAT JUST FOR CONTEXT, THAT'S EXISTING CONDITIONS? 'CAUSE YOU ALL ARE NOT TOUCHING ANYTHING ON HOPPER. AM I IMAGINING THINGS? YEAH, SO, SO WE ARE PLANNING TO IMPROVE HOPPER JUST ALONG THAT FRONTAGE. UM, I'M GONNA HAVE TO GO TO THIS SECTION TO BE CLEAR. LET'S SEE THAT SECTION. SO MY QUESTION THEN IS WHAT'S BEING DONE IN THAT BUFFER? CAN THERE BE SOME KIND OF VERTICAL ELEMENT, EVEN IF IT'S BELOW, TO MAKE THAT A SOMEWHAT PROTECTED LANE ON HOPPER VERTICAL PROTECTED? I'M SORRY, I DON'T THINK I FOLLOW VERTICAL PROTECTED MEANING SOMETHING IN THE, IN THE, IN THE BUFFER TO NOT JUST PAINT SOMETHING THAT GIVES IT A, A, A VERTICAL ELEMENT TO PREVENT DRIVERS FROM JUST DRIVING OVER THE PAINT. YES. I GUESS THERE'S SOMETHING HERE, SOMETHING WE SO RAISED. [00:50:01] YEAH, I THINK THAT COMES DOWN TO THE FIRE, THE FIRE ACCESS 'CAUSE OF THE WIDTH OF IT IS THAT QUICK LOOK. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED, BUT SOMETHING I THINK WE CAN CONSIDER. YEAH, SO THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF DRIVEWAYS ON THAT FRONTAGE TOO, SO IT GETS A LITTLE FUNKY, BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY ENGINEERING REASON WHY YOU COULDN'T. OKAY. UM, IF YOU LOOK AT, IF YOU HAVE A 1.2, THE AERIAL APPARATUS DIAGRAM IN FRONT OF YOU, UM, AND YOU KIND OF LOOK AT BLOCK SIX, THE MAIN STREET BUILDINGS, THERE'S A, A HARD RED LINE, THE DESIGNATED SIDE OF BUILDING ROOF LINE ACCESSIBLE TO AERIAL APPARATUS FIRETRUCK, WHEN WE TALKED TO FIRE AT D R C LAST WEEK, THEY HAD MENTIONED THAT THERE'S, THERE'S A CERTAIN DISTANCE, I THINK IT'S 20 OR 30 FEET, YOU HAVE TO BE WITHIN, UH, THAT FIRST BUILDING. SO OBVIOUSLY WE COULD, I GUESS WE COULD SQUEEZE THE BUILDINGS CLOSER TO THE ROAD IF WE NEEDED TO, BUT THERE'S A DISTANCE THERE THAT WE WERE TRYING TO PLAY WITH TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE BUILDINGS HAVE ACCESS TO, UH, TO AERIAL APPARATUS FOR FIRE. SO THAT WAS THE ONE CHALLENGE THAT WE HAD. WE'RE, WE'RE OPEN TO THAT, BUT THAT'S, WE JUST, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WORKS WITH WHAT FIRES REQUIREMENTS ARE. OKAY. I WON'T MAKE A COMMENT SINCE I'M JUST ASKING QUESTIONS, BUT I THINK YOU KNOW WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THAT. UM, AND THEN I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE, WHAT'S LABELED AS A CLASS THREE ON, SORRY, I MOVED MY DIAGRAM AGAIN. THE GREEN, THE NEIGHBORHOOD GREENWAY. SO ARE THE, IS IT THE INTENT TO ADD SHARES TO THE ROAD SINCE IT'S CALLED THE GREENWAY? THAT KIND OF MAKES ME THINK OF A LOT OF TRAFFIC CALMING ELEMENTS THAT IT IS A TRUE GREENWAY. IS THAT THE INTENT ALONG BATISTA? YEAH, SO WE, SO WE MATCHED THE, THE SAME HIERARCHY THAT'S SHOWN IN THE A T P MAPS THAT, THAT HAVE BEEN, UH, SENT TO PUBLIC NOW. SO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD GREENWAY IS ACTUALLY INTENDED TO BE A NEIGHBORHOOD SHARED STREET THAT INCLUDES SHEROS AND OTHER TRAFFIC CALL ELEMENTS, INCLUDING MAKING IT ONLY PEOPLE OUT THAT WOULD BE DRIVING A CAR THERE HAVE A REASON TO BE THERE, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, A DRIVEWAY OR SOME OTHER THING THERE. SO IT'S REALLY PROMOTING BIKE AND PED ACCESS. GREAT, THANK YOU. AND IF I WANNA TAKE A RIGHT OFF OF RA CRUZ ONTO HIDALGO, HOW DO I DO THAT? WHAT IS THAT INTERSECTION GONNA LOOK LIKE? BECAUSE IT'S A TWO-WAY CYCLE TRACK. YES. AND THEN MEETING A MULTI-USE PATH. SO HOW WOULD I TAKE A RIGHT IF I WANNA GO TOWARDS THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE SURE. IS GONNA BE PAIN. THAT'S THAT THOSE ARE THE DETAILS WE'D BE, WE'D BE DOING AS PART OF THE FINAL OKAY. SUPPORT WITH THE FINAL DESIGN. I MEAN, THIS IS VERY HIGH LEVEL CONCEPT, ROUNDABOUT LAYOUT, BUT THE, THE BITE CONNECTIONS FROM CLASS ONE TO CLASS FOUR ARE THE TYPES OF TREATMENTS THAT IS THERE. HOPEFULLY THERE'S MORE OPPORTUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT HAVE THAT THAT'S BEING ONE THAT'S, THAT WOULD INFORM THE DESIGN AS PART OF THAT. OKAY. THE LAYOUT OF, OF COFFEE. SO MORE TO COME, MY LAST QUESTION, WHICH ALSO MIGHT BE A MORE TO COME IS AROUND SECURE BIKE PARKING SPECIFICALLY FOR APARTMENTS THAT ARE NOT GONNA HAVE A GARAGE ACCESS, UM, AND OTHER UNITS THAT MIGHT NOT, WHAT KIND OF SECURE BIKE PARKING WOULD BE PROVIDED AND ALSO THE PUBLIC PARKING LOT, NOT NECESSARILY SECURE BIKE PARKING, BUT BIKE PARKING. SO I DON'T HAVE A NUMBER FOR YOU, BUT I, WE, I KNOW WE'VE CONTEMPLATED A SPACE FOR BIKE PARKING, SO IS THERE A CERTAIN NUMBER THRESHOLD THAT WE SHOULD BE MEETING AS PART OF THE DESIGN OR IF IT'S IN THE CODE WE CAN, WE CAN LOOK THAT UP AND AND MAKE SURE WE'RE FOLLOWING THAT. YEAH, I SAW IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT A REFERENCE TO, I THINK IN 10% MIGHT'VE BEEN THE ONE THROWN OUT, BUT I WOULD SAY LET'S LOOK TO THE A T P THAT WE'RE DESIGNING AND WHAT WE WANT AT CITYWIDE AS THE, AS THE NUMBER. I DON'T WANNA MAKE SOMETHING UP ON THE SPOT FOR YOU, . OKAY. BUT I GUESS THE POINT IS WE'LL, WE'LL DEFINITELY FOLLOW THAT AND IF THERE'S SOME PERCENTAGE THAT YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS WOULD PREFER, WE CAN DO THAT AS WELL. I'LL ALSO, I'LL ALSO SHARE THAT, UM, AT THE CITY WE ARE WORKING ON OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS THAT COULD UM, UH, HELP WE, WE ARE LOOKING AT UPDATING OUR BIKE PARKING REQUIREMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH, UH, ESPECIALLY WITH RE RESIDENTIAL, UM, DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. AND THAT WILL BE COMING LIKELY COMING TO PBA FOR YOUR REVIEW AND FEEDBACK IN OCTOBER. SO WE'LL HAVE, UM, PLENTY OF TIME TO UM, I THINK GET THAT ALL STRAIGHTENED OUT BEFORE UM, THIS PROJECT, UM, MOVES FORWARD. YEP. UM, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. I'M WONDERING ON STREET, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO REDUCE THE TRAVEL LANE WIDTH AND HAVE A CENTER MEDIAN TO SLOW TRAFFIC ON HIDALGO? SORRY, JUST CHECKING THE SECTION REAL QUICK. HI, DOGGO. E ONE. SO JEFF, WE SHOW AN 11 FOOT TRAVEL LANE ON HIDALGO. SO ARE YOU SAYING REDUCING DOWN TO 10 AND THEN TRYING TO HAVE SOME SORT OF RAISE MEDIA? YEAH, [00:55:01] I THINK THAT'S THE FIRE, THE FIRE ACCESS ISSUE THAT THAT AND THEN MAYBE JULIA MAY HAVE SOME INSIGHT ONTO THAT, BUT TYPICALLY IT'S THE CLEAR WIDTH. SO WHAT WE INTEND, WHAT WE INTENDED TO DO IS ACTUALLY MAKE THE TRAVEL LANES AS NARROW AS POSSIBLE SO THAT BY THE CROSS, CROSS FLOW OF TRAFFIC IS ACTUALLY GONNA BE THE TR ONE OF THE TRAFFIC ALL ELEMENTS OF THAT. OKAY. UM, AND ON THAT ONE SPECIFICALLY, UM, DON'T SEE THAT'S, SO THAT'S INTENDED TO KIND OF YEAH, BRING EVERYBODY CLOSE SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A FEELING INTIMATE AND SMALL AND UM, TRAFFIC HOME. UNDERSTOOD. AND THEN DO YOU KNOW THE WIDTH OF THE GREENWAY PROMENADE? I THINK IT'S 20 FEET. I DON'T HAVE IT LABELED. DO WE? I THINK IT'S 20 FEET WAS THE INTENT. AND DO YOU KNOW WHAT KIND OF AGGREGATE WOULD BE USED ON THAT? IT WOULD BE LANDSCAPING AS FAR AS THE ACTUAL TRAIL. YEAH. UM, WE WOULD PROBABLY USE SIDE, UM, SORRY, CONCRETE UNLESS, UH, UNLESS THERE WAS A PREFERRED MATERIAL OTHER THAN THAT. OKAY. AND DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA ABOUT LIKE THE LIGHTING EXPERIENCE FOR THE MULTI-USE PATHWAY? HMM, GOOD QUESTION. NOT YET. I FEEL LIKE WE'VE HAD THIS DESIGNED AT ONE POINT, BUT UM, WE'VE KIND OF TAKEN A FEW STEPS BACK IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS, SO SOME OF THOSE SPECIFIC DETAILED QUESTIONS I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO, BUT THERE WOULD BE PERIODIC LIGHTING AND WE WOULD MAKE SURE THAT IT'S DARK SKY COMPLIANT. UH, AS FAR AS THE FREQUENCY, I DON'T KNOW. OKAY. I KNOW WE HAVE THAT WITH OUR SMART PATH, BUT IT'S STILL REALLY DARK, SO SOMETHING LOW WOULD BE NICE. WE DO ALSO HAVE, SORRY, WE HAVE, THERE WAS LIGHTING INSTALLED ALONG THE NEXT SECTION OF RIVER TRAIL, UM, AS PART OF THE RIVERFRONT DEVELOPMENT AND THEN WE ALSO HAD ANOTHER, UH, RECENT DEVELOPMENT PROJECT THAT INSTALLED LIGHTING ALONG LYNCH CREEK TRAIL, UM, BEHIND THE CLOVER FACILITY. SO YEAH, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF, UM, RECENT PROJECTS WE COULD USE FOR GUIDANCE AS FAR AS SPACING, TYPE OF LIGHTING, ET CETERA. SO, SO IS THE CONCERN FOR SAFETY, SO YOU WANT IT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE LIT THAN SOME PAST PROJECTS OR ARE YOU CONCERNED THAT IT'S OKAY MORE MORE THAN THAT? YEAH. SO IT'S NOT TOO DARK MM-HMM. , IS THAT THE IDEA? GOT IT. OKAY. YEAH. UM, AND THEN FOR THE, FOR THE OPEN SPACE PARK AREA, IS THERE, IS THERE ON STREET PARKING ON THERE? I DON'T REMEMBER. SO, UM, ON BATISTA WAY, WHICH IS KIND OF THE CIRCULAR PATH THAT GOES ADJACENT TO THE OPEN PARK SPACE, YES. THERE WOULD BE PARKING ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE STREET. OKAY. WE DEBATED ON WHETHER THAT WOULD BE ON THE SOUTH OR THE NORTH. UM, PLANNING, COMMISSION PREFERENCE WAS TO HAVE PARKING ON ONE SIDE OF THESE STREETS TO REDUCE OVERALL PARKING. UH, SO WE NEEDED TO PUT IT ON ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER. YES. SO THERE'S PROS AND CONS TO EACH ONE. AT THIS POINT WE'RE SHOWING IT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE STREET, BUT THAT COULD BE MOVED TO THE SOUTH SIDE. I THINK THE IDEA WAS THAT IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PARK FROM THE STREET, IT'S A LOT CLEANER LOOK WITHOUT PARKING ADJACENT TO IT. UM, BUT OBVIOUSLY THERE'S SOME CONCERNS ABOUT PEOPLE GETTING IN AND OUT OF THE CAR AND THEN HAVING TO CROSS THE STREET. SO THERE'S A POTENTIAL CONFLICT THERE. SO, AND THESE ARE ONE CAR GARAGES ATTACHED TO THE BLOCKS TWO AND FOUR? UM, IT'S MOSTLY TWO CAR. WE DO HAVE SOME ONE CAR SPREAD THROUGHOUT. I DON'T HAVE THAT EXACT PERCENTAGE, BUT IT'S MOSTLY TWO CAR. AND THEN THERE'S NO PARKING WITHIN THOSE BLOCKS? NO, LIKE ON STREET PARKING. UM, THERE ARE SMALL POCKETS MAYBE, UM, FIVE TO 10 SPACES IN, IN EACH BLOCK, SO THERE'S NOT VERY MANY PARKING SPACES. SO WE WOULD IMAGINE THAT VISITORS OR OTHER CARS WOULD BE PARKING ON THAT SIDE. I'M JUST THINKING THAT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PUBLIC PARKING FOR THE PARK. THERE'S NOT, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PUBLIC PARKING AND THAT'S RATHER INTENTIONAL. IF WE WANT TO PARKING ON BOTH SIDES, WE WE COULD SURE DO THAT. WE WOULD BE OPEN TO THAT. AND THEN IT'S PUBLIC ACCESS TO THE DOCK? YES. OKAY. AND THAT'S, IS THAT PROTECTED? IT WILL ALWAYS BE PUBLIC ACCESS. IS IT PROTECTED IN WHAT WAY? LIKE IT'S FOREVER PUBLIC ACCESS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT. YES. OKAY. WELL, SO THAT LAND WILL BE DONATED TO THE CITY. OKAY. YEAH, IT'LL BE CITY PROPERTY. OKAY. THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. OH, I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION ON BLOCK SEVEN IN THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WHAT IS THAT? LIGHT PINK KIND OF SQUARE? YEAH, THAT'S, I BELIEVE THAT'S THE AMENITY BUILDING. UM, PART OF THE REASON FOR KEEPING IT AS ONE BLOCK IS TO, UM, HAVE HAVE AMENITIES AND SERVICES THAT, UM, THAT, THAT ATTEND TO PEOPLE LIVING THERE. SO I THINK THE IDEA WOULD BE EITHER THAT'S, AND I, I'M, I CAN'T TELL IF THAT'S THE BUILDING OR THE PLAYGROUND. I KNOW THEY HAVE A PLAY STRUCTURE OR PLAYGROUND THAT'S PLANNED ON THE CAMPUS. OKAY. UM, SO I, I THINK THAT'S A BUILDING JUST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT BLOCK. [01:00:02] THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. DO WE KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY PLANS OR HAS THE CITY, UM, UH, PLANNED ANY DEVELOPMENT OR ANY IMPROVEMENTS TO HOPPER MEAN? I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S SORT OF OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF, OF THIS PROJECT. MM-HMM. , BUT, UM, IT SEEMS TO ME, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE ADVANTAGES TO THIS IS THAT IT'S, IT'S PROXIMITY TO, UH, THE SMART STATION. MM-HMM. , BUT IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT. I MEAN, THAT'S A ROUGH STRETCH OF ROAD ON HOPPER RIGHT. BETWEEN HERE AND THE SMART STATION AND THAT, THAT CROSSING AT D STREET IS A CHALLENGE AS WELL. MM-HMM. , UM, AGAIN, I REALIZE THAT THAT MAY NOT BE, YOU KNOW, IN THE PURVIEW OF YOUR PROJECT, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE A MISSED OPPORTUNITY IF, IF, IF THERE ISN'T SOMETHING DONE TO MAKE HOPPER MORE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T EXPECT PEOPLE TO TAKE BIKES, WALK SCOOTER, HOWEVER, UM, TO GET TO THE SMART STATION BY GOING OUT TO LAKEVILLE, THAT'S A PROBLEM IN AND OF ITSELF. CORRECT. AND, UM, AGAIN, JUST CURIOUS IF THERE'S ANY OF THE, THOSE CONVERSATIONS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE. THERE HAVE BEEN. I THINK, UM, EVERYONE KNOWS IT'S A CHALLENGE. THE ENGINEERING PLANNING DEPARTMENTS KNOW IT'S A CHALLENGE. UM, SO WE'VE HAD THESE DISCUSSIONS. SO I THINK, UH, OUR BIGGEST SOLUTION IS DOING WHAT WE CAN WITHIN THE SCOPE OF OUR PROJECT. AND WE THINK THAT BUILDING THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE TO MCNAIR IS PROBABLY THE BEST WAY TO AVOID EXTRA TRAFFIC ON HOPPER. UM, JUST BECAUSE OF THOSE CHALLENGES. IF WE HAD PLENTY OF RIGHT OF WAY, I THINK IT WOULD BE A LOT EASIER SOLUTION. WE WOULD JUST BUILD A SIDEWALK. UM, UNFORTUNATELY IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE CHALLENGING THAN THAT. SO, UM, WE THINK THAT, UM, ESPECIALLY PEOPLE LIVING IN, UM, WELL REALLY MOST OF THE BLOCKS, THE MOST DIRECT WAY WILL ACTUALLY BE GOING FROM YOUR HOUSE OR FROM THE RIVERFRONT TRAIL ACROSS MCNAIR AND THEN GET TO D STREET THAT WAY BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE 100% PEDESTRIAN ACCESS. YEAH. I'LL JUST ADD ON, ON HOPPER STREET. IT'S A, IT'S A GREAT POINT. YOU RAISE, UM, COMMITTEE MEMBER QUINT. UM, AND, AND THERE IS A REALLY GREAT OPPORTUNITY HERE WITH THE, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT THE FRONTAGE IMPROVEMENTS ON HOPPER STREET THAT WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT TO KIND OF IDENTIFY THAT IDEAL CROSS SECTION FOR HOPPER STREET AND THEN, AND HOPEFULLY CARRY THOSE OVER TO THE OTHER STRETCHES OF HOPPER IN THE FUTURE, UM, WITH OTHER PROJECTS, UH, OR WITH THE CITY C I P PROJECT POTENTIALLY. UM, SO THAT'S A GOOD AREA, A GREAT AREA FOR THE COMMITTEE TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK TONIGHT. UM, ON, ON THAT CROSS SECTION FOR HOPPER STREET, I HAVE, I HAVE TWO MORE, UM, QUESTIONS. ONE, HAVE SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL CONSIDERATIONS BEEN MADE FOR THIS AREA? IN OTHER WORDS, THESE KIDS THAT ARE GONNA BE LIVING HERE HAVE TO GO TO SCHOOL? UM, NOT SPECIFICALLY, NO. NOT UP TO THIS POINT. 'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S KIND THE WAY WE EXIST RIGHT NOW. I THINK ME WALK IS PROBABLY THE ONLY OPTION AND IT'S ACROSS LAKEVILLE, WHICH IS NOT A WONDERFUL PLACE TO GO, THE KIDS. AND SO I SEE MORE, MORE PARENTS DRIVING THEIR CHILDREN TO SCHOOL WHEN I WOULD PREFER TO SEE THEM WALKING OR BIKING WITH THEIR KIDS TO SCHOOL. SO THAT WAS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS. THE OTHER QUESTION INVOLVES BUS STOPS. IS THERE A CONNECTION TO BUS STOPS? IS THERE A BUS STOP IN THIS REGION AREA? THERE IS A PLANNED BUS STOP ON HIDALGO STREET. SO CURRENTLY THIS IS A, UM, IT'S NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. THIS IS JUST A PRIVATE, YOU KNOW, PRIVATE PIECE OF PROPERTY. BUT WHEN HIDALGO IS OPEN, THAT WILL THEN BE A PUBLIC STREET AND WE'LL, WE'RE PLANNING FOR AT LEAST ONE BUS STOP ALONG HIDALGO. WE HAVEN'T LOCATED IT YET, BUT WE'RE THINKING IT WOULD BE, UM, WELL, IT'S SOMEWHERE ON HIDALGO. IT'S NOT A BIG STREET. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE? YES. YEAH. COULD YOU, UM, COULD YOU IDENTIFY, THERE'S, UH, THE AREA THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S, UH, ALSO PART OF THE PROMENADE BETWEEN, UM, BELOW BLOCK FIVE AND THE OPEN SPACE IS, UH, IS THAT JUST UNMARKED AND IT WAS INTENDED TO BE THE, UH, THE GREENWAY PROMENADE? YES. SO I THINK WHEN IT, WHEN THE PROJECT'S FINISHED, YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TELL ONE FROM THE OTHER. UH, THE OPEN PARK SPACE WOULD BE PROGRAMMED IN A SPECIFIC WAY. SO THERE MIGHT BE A VOLLEYBALL COURT ON ONE SIDE, AND MAYBE THERE'S A LANDSCAPING THAT'S PART OF THE BLOCK FIVE THAT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY ON THE OTHER. BUT THE IDEA WOULD BE THAT IT'S SEAMLESS AND THAT YOU COULD, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO FENCING PLANNED FOR EITHER SIDE. YOU COULD JUST WALK IN BETWEEN. OKAY. DOES THAT ANSWER THE QUESTION? [01:05:01] YEAH. SO IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD HAVE THE FEEL OF A, OF A DEVELOPED WALKWAY CORRECT. TO, TO GET THROUGH THERE. CORRECT. YEAH. LANDSCAPED WALKWAY. RIGHT. UM, SO YOU'VE MENTIONED THE VOLLEYBALL COURTS IN SOME, UH, MORE DEVELOPED AMENITIES FOR RECREATION. UH, WERE YOU PLANNING ON LOCATING SOME BICYCLE PARKING NEAR THOSE, THOSE FACILITIES? YES. THAT BE OKAY. I THINK THAT'S WHAT THIS COMMITTEE WOULD LIKE TO, TO SEE IS, IS, UH, AT THOSE KINDS OF, UM, HUBS WHERE PEOPLE ARE BEING, YOU KNOW, DRAWN EITHER WITH KIDS TO A PLAYGROUND OR, YOU KNOW, UH, SOMETHING LIKE A DEVELOPED AREA. WELL, AND I THINK THAT'S THE FEEDBACK THAT WE WOULD LIKE TONIGHT BECAUSE THE IDEA IS WE WANT TO COLLECT AS MUCH OF THIS FEEDBACK AS POSSIBLE AND THEN CREATE A PLAN THAT, THAT EVERYBODY CAN ENJOY. YEAH. UM, AND, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, WHERE THE BRIDGE OVER TO, UM, UM, THE PENINSULA IS, IS PLANNED. UH, IT MAY BE, UH, AN APPROPRIATE THING TO PLAN SOME BIKE PARKING THERE AT, AT, UM, AT, ON YOUR SIDE OF THE PROPERTY TO, UM, YOU KNOW, ALLOW PEOPLE TO COME OVER ON BIKE AND MAYBE PUT THEIR BIKES ASIDE AND PARK THEM OUT OF THE WAY, AND THEN DO SOMETHING LIKE, UM, TAKE PART IN THE OTHER AMENITIES THAT YOU'RE PLANNING. DEFINITELY. YEAH. UM, NOTED AND I, I DIDN'T SEE ANY CROSSWALKS ON AT LEAST THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN. UM, CAN YOU, CAN YOU ADDRESS WHERE, WHERE YOU'RE PLANNING ON PUTTING IN FORMAL CROSSWALKS AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHETHER ANY ARE PLANNED, SAY, UH, ON VERACRUZ OR, UM, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE, WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION TO GET PEOPLE ACROSS FROM ONE HOUSING TYPE TO ANOTHER? YEAH, I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED YET. SO I THINK IT'S A LITTLE PRELIMINARY IN THE SCOPE, BUT, UM, I THINK THE IDEA WOULD BE DEFINITELY, YOU WOULD DEFINITELY HAVE A CROSSWALK AT THE GREENWAY PROMENADE. UM, BUT NO, OUT OUTSIDE OF THAT, WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED CROSSWALK SPECIFICALLY. RIGHT, OKAY. CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE TREATED SO THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE KNOW WHEN THEY HAVE THE PRIORITY TO GET ACROSS, ESPECIALLY LIKE IN THAT ONE AREA IN THE PROMENADE AREA, UM, SOUTH OF, UH, THE BLOCK FIVE. THAT MAKES, UM, I THINK THAT'S A, A PLACE TO HIGHLIGHT, MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A, UM, A CROSSWALK THAT GIVES PEOPLE THE SENSE THAT THEY CAN GET ACROSS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE CARS BEING PARKED ON ONE SIDE. UM, AND I, AND I THINK IN GENERAL, JUST TO RESPOND TO THAT A LITTLE BIT, THE IDEA IS TO DISCOURAGE CARS FROM PASSING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. YEAH. SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, AS MUCH TRAFFIC CALMING, UH, THAT WE CAN DO THE BETTER RIGHT. IN OUR EYES, UM, AND IN THE EYES OF OUR NEIGHBORS AT TRI POINT. RIGHT. SO, UM, AND ALSO RELATED TO, UM, SIDEWALKS, SO WITHIN BLOCK SEVEN, I SEE INTERNAL SIDEWALKS HIGHLIGHTED IN WHITE, AND I DON'T SEE THAT IN BLOCK SIX. IS THERE, IS THERE A REASON FOR THAT? OR AT LEAST I I, ARE THOSE LIKE THE PRIVATE WALKWAYS THAT ARE GONNA BE IN FRONT OF THE HOUSING PEOPLE ARE GONNA PARK AND THAT'S HOW THEY'RE GONNA FIND THEIR ENTRY INTO THEIR HOMES? I THINK AT THIS POINT, THE, THE SIMPLE ANSWER IS, UM, EDEN HAUSEN IS, IS WORKING ON, THEY'VE DEVELOPED THAT SITE PLAN AND K T G Y HAS DEVELOPED BLOCKS I SEE ONE THROUGH SIX. AND SO I THINK IT'S JUST A, WE HAVEN'T QUITE COORDINATED THAT LEVEL OF EFFORT YET, BUT THERE WILL BE A NETWORK OF, OF SIDEWALKS IN ALL OF THE BLOCKS THAT SEAMLESSLY CONNECT THINGS. UM, BUT YEAH, I THINK THAT'S JUST, EDEN HAS A LITTLE BIT MORE ADVANCED BLOCK I SEE. THAN OTHERS. YEAH. THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO GUIDE PEOPLE IN THE WAY YOU WANT THEM TO GO, SO THEY'RE NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, GOING THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE PARKING AREA, SAY IN THE MIDDLE OF, UM, BLOCK SIX. RIGHT. UM, AND, AND SO, UM, A QUESTION ABOUT, UH, CIRCULATION. SO ON THE NORTH SIDE OF HIDALGO STREET, UM, THE GREEN STRIP, SO I'M NOT CLEAR, IS THAT A BIKE WAY OR IS THAT A, A GREEN LANDSCAPED SPACE? I THINK THE PLAN FOR THAT IS A CLASS THREE BIKE LANE. OKAY. I'D HAVE TO CHECK THE SECTION JUST TO MAKE SURE E ONE. OKAY. 'CAUSE IT'S A DIFFERENT, IT'S A DIFFERENT GREEN AND YEAH, IT IS A DIFFERENT GREEN. AND I WAS, COULD COULD CALL AND I WAS, I WAS CONFUSED. I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS A LANDSCAPE ELEMENT PROPERTY. THAT'S RIGHT. THINK, UM, BECAUSE YOU DO HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE RED, UH, CLASS ONE RUNNING UP TO IT. SO I, IT SEEMS LIKE IT SHOULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, A BIKEWAY I'M SORRY THAT JEFF CORRECTED ME. THAT'S NOT A CLASS THREE BIKE LANE THAT'S JUST, UM, LANDSCAPING. OKAY. SO, UM, SO WHAT HAPPENS THERE WHEN YOU COME THROUGH THE ROUNDABOUT AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE DOING THE CAULFIELD EXTENSION ROUNDABOUT AND YOU'VE MADE A RIGHT ONTO HIDALGO MM-HMM. , WHAT'S THE TREATMENT? ARE YOU JUST ON STREET AND YOU'RE GONNA FIND YOURSELF WITH SHEROS OR WHAT'S, WHAT WOULD A CYCLIST EXPERIENCE? SO THE, THE INTENT IS, WELL, THAT WOULD BE FACIL, UH, SHOWN IN AND DURING DETAILED DESIGN, BUT THE WAY THAT IT'S INTENDED IS FOR, [01:10:01] TO BRING ALL THE, THE, THE WALKERS AND BIKERS TO THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE STREET TO THE PROPERTY FRONTAGE. UM, THE, THE BIG RECTANGLE THAT'S, THAT'S OPEN THERE IS THE, IS THE, THE, THE CITY'S PROPERTY THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDER A MASTER PLANNING PROCESS. SO THE FRONTAGE FOR THERE IS KIND OF A LITTLE BIT T B D WITH THE IDEA THAT WHATEVER'S IS PLANNED FOR THIS AND THAT WOULD BE COMPATIBLE MM-HMM. . UM, THE IDEA BEING THAT WHAT THIS PROJECT IS INTENDED TO CONTROL IS BRINGING EVERYBODY FROM CAULFIELD AND ALL THE OTHER ENTRANCE POINTS THROUGH VIA MULTI MODE, ALL, ALL MODES. SO, UM, HA WE HAVEN'T DESIGNED IT YET, BUT THE IDEA WOULD BE TO GET THAT, GET FOLKS TO THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE STREET AT VERACRUZ THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH THE ROUNDABOUT THROUGH CROSSWALKS, OTHER, OTHER TRAFFIC CONTROL, UH, FEATURES THAT WE HAVEN'T STUDIED YET TO SEE WHAT, WHAT, WHAT'S NEEDED THERE IN TERMS OF STRIPING OR MARKINGS AND WHATNOT. BUT, UM, THE IDEA WOULD BE TO BRING THEM THROUGH THE, THE NORTH-SOUTH SPINE AND GET THEM INTO THE BIKE PED, UM, WALKAWAYS. OKAY. AS, AS QUICKLY AND AS VISUALLY AS POSSIBLE. SO WOULD THAT LEND ITSELF TO LIKE A DIAGONAL CROSSWALK THERE? I AM HESITANT TO DO SOMETHING TOO, UH, DIFFERENT SINCE IT'S SO CLOSE TO THE APPROACH TO THE ROUNDABOUT. I THINK WHAT THAT WOULD, WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE IS THAT THE ROUNDABOUT, UH, LAYOUT ITSELF INCLUDES EITHER A JUG HANDLE OR A TWO STAGE TURN TO ACTUALLY GET FOLKS OKAY. IN BOTH DIRECTIONS INTO THE ROUNDABOUT WHERE THEY WANT TO BE, BECAUSE THE ROUNDABOUT ITSELF HAS YEAH, BIKEWAY BIKEWAY TRAFFIC IN BOTH DIRECTIONS AS WELL. SO YOU HAVE, IF YOU TAKE THE CARS OUT OF THE CONVERSATION REMIT, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE DIFFERENT BIKE ON BIKE AND BIKE ON, ON, ON, ON PEDESTRIAN YEAH. UH, CONFLICTS THAT WOULD TO BE DESIGNED AS PART OF THE, THE OUTER PART OF THE ROUTE, THE ROUNDABOUT. OKAY. THAT DOES LOOK KIND OF TRICKY, THE TRANSITION YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IT, IT'S, IT'S A FUN THING TO, A FUN PROBLEM TO SOLVE THROUGH THE DESIGN PROCESS. THAT'S RIGHT. . OKAY. SO, SO THE, THE CLASS FOUR TWO-WAY BY, UH, CYCLE TRACK, UM, SO YOU'VE CHOSEN TO DO IT ON THE TWO PROPOSED TO DO IT ON, ON THESE TWO BLOCKS. UH, DID YOU CONSIDER EXTENDING IT, SAY, ALONG HIDALGO STREET? WERE THERE CONSTRAINTS THAT, UH, YOU, I MEAN, IS THERE, IS THERE MORE OF THAT THAT THE PUBLIC CAN EXPERIENCE IN THERE? I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN STUDY FURTHER. UM, I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF, TELL ME, GO AHEAD. BUT THAT THE, THE, THE THOUGHT PROCESS SO FAR WAS THAT THE SOUTH SIDE OF HIDALGO HAS THE MULTI-USE, UH, PATHWAY FOR EVERY, FOR, FOR WALKING AND BIKING. SO THAT BECAUSE THERE IS CONSTRAINED WIDTH FOR THE REMAINING TWO-WAY TRAFFIC THAT'S NEEDED THERE WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE FRONTAGE ON THE NORTH SIDE ARE ON THE, THOSE, THE CORP YARD SIDE SIDE CAN BE KIND OF, UH, INTEGRATED INTO WHATEVER THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET HAS. OKAY. OKAY. AND THEN THE TWO WAY JUST TO, TO CONFIRM THE, OR AT LEAST THE COFIELD EXTENSION, PLANNED BIKEWAY IS A CLASS ONE OR CLASS FOUR, THAT'S SECOND AGENDA ITEM WE CAN TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT, BUT THAT'S MORE OF, THAT'S GONNA BE COMPATIBLE WITH WHATEVER THE, AT THE A T P PROJECTS LIST IDENTIFIES IT AS. AND THAT WOULD INFLUENCE WHETHER THIS CLAN IS FULLY COMPATIBLE OR WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN TO MAKE BOTH OF THEM COMPATIBLE WITH EACH OTHER. BUT THE GOAL OF PROVIDING A LOW STRESS CLASS ONE, CLASS FOUR RIGHT. CONNECTION BETWEEN CYCLISTS ON CALL FIELD AND FOLKS THAT WANNA COME INTO AND OUT OF THE SITE. OKAY. THERE JUST SEEM TO BE A LOT OF RIGHT ANGLES. IF I, UM, THE WAY I'M THINKING ABOUT IT, WHERE VER WHERE THE, THE CYCLE TRACK HITS THE CLASS ONE, UM, I WONDER IF THAT SHOULD BE ROUNDED, YOU KNOW, AT THAT CORNER. I MEAN, YOU'RE BRINGING PEOPLE TO A CORNER AND, UM, THEY'RE TRAVELING, THEY WERE TRAVELING FASTER, AND MAYBE THEY THINK THEY'RE GONNA EXPERIENCE WHAT THE CLASS ONE AND BE ABLE TO NOT, NOT NECESSARILY JUST STOP AND MAKE A LEFT TURN. DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? YEAH. THE, THE, YEAH, THE, THE AREA WHERE, WHERE FOLKS ARE WAITING TO CROSS, WHETHER THEY'RE WALKING OR BIKING OR WHATNOT, YEAH. ARE, ARE THE ELEMENTS OF THE CORNERS OF THE INTERSECTIONS. UM, WHERE, I MEAN, I THINK THE, YEAH, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF SPACE THERE AND THAT, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD NEED TO BE, MAY, MAY AFFECT, YOU KNOW, HOW HOW A YARD IS IS CONNECTED TO IT. AND DEFINITELY SIGHT LINES A BIG ISSUE THAT WOULD, AND TERMS OF BUILDING SETBACKS AND, AND HOW PEOPLE CAN, CAN SEE EACH OTHER COME AROUND. THE, THE HOPE THOUGH IS IF YOU'RE RIDING YOUR BIKE OR WALKING, YOU'RE NOT GOING SO FAST THAT YOU PRESENT A CHALLENGE WHEN YOU GET TO AN, AN INTERSECTION. AND THE IDEA IS THAT IT'S COMFORTABLE AND SAFE, BUT, BUT NOT NECESSARILY A SUPER HIGH, HIGH SPEED OR A BIKE HIGHWAY, AT LEAST NOT AS IT GOES INTO THIS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENTS. OKAY. MAY, MAY, MAYBE SOME CONSIDERATION CAN BE GIVEN TO HAVING SOMETHING ON A CURVE, PERHAPS AT THESE BLOCK CORNERS. UM, LIKE WHERE VERACRUZ HITS, UH, THE OTHER SIDE. UM, SPEAK UP. OH, I'M SORRY. UH, I'LL DO, DO A LITTLE BIT, BIT BETTER. OKAY. SO, UM, SO BACK TO THE GREEN STRIP ON HIDALGO, UH, ON THE NORTHERN SIDE. YOU, I THINK YOU CONCLUDED THAT THAT WAS GONNA BE LANDSCAPING LIKE WITH TREES OR THAT'S, THAT'S NOT A BIKE WAY. IT'S UH, DO YOU HAVE TREES PLANNED OR SOME KIND OF GREENING UP ELEMENT TO KIND OF SOFTEN THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY WITH [01:15:01] THE ADJACENT INDUSTRIAL? IT'S A SIDEWALK. OKAY. THERE'S NO BIKE WAY. GOT IT. IF I UNDERSTOOD RIGHT, SO LOOKING AT THE SECTION, SECTION E ONE AND E TWO, UH, THERE IS A SIDEWALK, IT'S A SIX FOOT SIDEWALK, AND IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A TREE. WELL, SO THERE'S A FIVE FOOT TREE, WELL, AND A SIX FOOT SIDEWALK COMBINED FOR 11 FEET. OKAY. OKAY. I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, IS THERE, IS THERE A DRAW FOR A PEDESTRIAN TO GO ACROSS TO THAT NORTH SIDE OF HIDALGO TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHERE WHERE SHE CAN WALK HER DOG OR WHATEVER SHE WANTS TO DO, SO IT LOOKS LIKE THERE WOULD BE A PLACE TO WALK YOUR DOG. YEAH. OKAY. THE SIDEWALK. I, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. I'M JUST GONNA ASK ONE FOLLOW UP. UH, WE JUST TALKED ABOUT HOW HOPPER IS GONNA MAYBE SET A TONE FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. UM, AND WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THAT CROSS SECTION AGAIN, I WANNA MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING IT, IT, WHAT STUCK OUT WAS THE 10 FOOT SIDEWALK THAN FOUR FOOT TREE. WELL, SO THAT ENDS UP BEING A, A 14 FOOT, WHICH IS LARGER THAN THE REST. AND THEN IS THIS, AND THIS IS JUST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT. IT LOOKS LIKE TWO 10 FOOT TRAVEL LANES, I ASSUME FOR CARS, AND THEN A SIX FOOT FOR NON VEHICULAR. CAN YOU JUST, UH, BREAK THAT DOWN BRIEFLY JUST TO MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING THAT. UH, SO THE SIX FOOT, SO YOU HAVE 10 FOOT, TWO 10 FOOT TRAVEL LANES PER VEHICULAR. THE SIX FOOT IS MISLABELED. IT SHOULD BE FOR A BIKE, A, A BIKE, A BIKE BIKE ONE WAY. SO THIS, SO THE SIX FOOT, IT SHOULD BE A BIKE IF, IF THE, IF THE BUFFER, IF THE BUFFER THAT'S DRAWN HERE. AND, AND JULIA, IF YOU, IF YOU'RE WATCHING, UH, SECTION F THE BUFFER IS SHOWN AT THE SAME GRADE AS THE BIKE LANE. THAT'S A CLASS TWO, POTENTIALLY A BUFFERED BIKE LANE CLASS TWO, IF THAT WERE RAISED, IT WOULD THEN BE A, A ONE-WAY CYCLE TRACK CLASS FOUR. UM, I THINK THE, ONE OF THE, THE THINGS THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ENDED UP WAS, IS HOW THAT INTERFACES WITH POTENTIAL DRIVEWAY CURB CUTS AND THE WAY FOLKS ARE ACTUALLY GETTING TO THE STREETS OF THE PROPOSED STREETS AND SOME OF THE OTHER ELEMENTS ON THE SIDE THERE. BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN CLARIFY AND CLEAN UP AND, AND UNDERSTAND AND GET SOME FEEDBACK AS TO THE DESIRED, UH, CONNECTION THERE. AND THEN FOR THE, THE 10 FOOT SIDEWALK AGAIN, STICKS OUT AS KIND OF A LARGER STREET AREA. JUST, UH, WHAT WAS THE, UH, THE, THE REASONING BEHIND THAT 10 FEET SIDEWALK? IT, WE IS A, IT'S WIDER THAN MOST, BUT THE RIGHT SIZE OF SIDEWALK, IT'S ACTUALLY COMFORTABLE 'CAUSE YOU HAVE DEVELOPMENT ON ONE SIDE AND THE PLANTING'S ON THE OTHER SO THAT IT'S NOT CONSTRAINED BY ONE, ONE PERSON AND, AND WALKING IN ONE DIRECTION. UH, I THINK THIS WAS ACTUALLY INFORMED BY THE DRAFT OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS OR, OR OTHER, UH, ONGOING WORK WORK THAT THE CITY'S, UH, AND THE GENERAL PLAN IS LOOKING INTO UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE IDEAL AND PLANNED LEVEL SIDE OF SIDEWALK WIDTHS ARE BASED ON, UM, THE HIERARCHY OF ROADWAYS. UM, SO WE DIDN'T WANT TO, WE DIDN'T WANT TO BE, WE WANTED TO BE AS CONSISTENT WITH THAT AS POSSIBLE, UH, KNOWING THAT IT'LL EVENTUALLY GET, IT'LL PROBABLY COME IN FRONT OF THIS GROUP AT SOME POINT SOON. UH, CONSISTENCY IS GREAT. UH, THANK YOU FOR BREAKING THAT DOWN. JUST ONE QUESTION AFTER SO MANY GREAT QUESTIONS. WOW. UM, I THINK THE, UH, THE THING I WAS JUST WONDERING ABOUT IN TERMS OF THINKING ABOUT WHAT THE RETAIL, UM, IS ON THE CORNER OF HIDALGO STREET NEXT TO THE AMENITY, JUST IN TRYING TO PROMOTE THE IDEA OF 15 MINUTE NEIGHBORHOODS, THIS SEEMS LIKE A, A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS SOMEWHAT KIND OF CLOSED OFF JUST GIVEN HOPPER STREET IN LAKEVILLE MM-HMM. . IS THERE ANY KIND OF PREDETERMINED USE FOR THAT IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO BE A GROCERY STORE OR SOMETHING THAT CAN REALLY, YOU KNOW, SAVE A TRIP FOR FOLKS JUST WANTING TO KEEP THINGS IN CAR TRIPS LOCAL? YES. SO WE'VE COMMITTED TO 8,000 SQUARE FEET. I THINK WHAT'S SHOWN IS PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT SMALLER THAN THAT, UM, BUT 8,000 SQUARE FEET IS WHAT WE'VE COMMITTED TO. SO THAT WOULD BE, UH, MULTI COMMERCIAL. WE'RE THINKING IT WOULD BE AT A MINIMUM A RESTAURANT, WHICH IS TYPICALLY AROUND THREE TO 4,000, COULD BE AN ICE CREAM SHOP. AND THEN, UM, IF, IF SPACE IS AVAILABLE, IT COULD BE A CHILDCARE FACILITY. IT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE SMALL FOR A CHILDCARE FACILITY, BUT WE WOULD OPEN IT UP TO 8,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL WITH PREFERENCE FOR A RESTAURANT TO DRAW PEOPLE TO THE AREA. UM, COULD BE A CORNER STORE, TO YOUR POINT, ABOUT A 15 MINUTE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO WE, WE'D LIKE, WE'D LIKE A PLACE WHERE YOU COULD BUY, YOU KNOW, UM, MILK, EGGS, BREAD, THAT SORT OF THING SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO CROSS LAKEVILLE. UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S OUR IDEA FOR WHAT THAT RETAIL WOULD BE. SO I DON'T THINK WE WOULD DEEDED RESTRICTED IN THAT WAY, BUT, UH, WE WOULD DEFINITELY PLAN FOR A GREASE TRAP FOR A RESTAURANT, SO WE WOULD HAVE THAT INFRASTRUCTURE BUILT IN PLACE. UM, BUT THAT'S THE IDEA. GREAT, THANKS. AND MAYBE JUST ONE OTHER QUESTION. HAVE YOU CONSIDERED ANYWHERE ALONG THIS PATHWAY FOR INSTALLING ONE OF THE, UM, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY'RE CALLED, BICYCLE [01:20:01] REPAIR MAINTENANCE STATIONS? WE HAVE ACTUALLY, YES, THAT'S, THAT WAS PART OF OUR PLANNING, SO I DON'T THINK WE SHOW IT ON THIS PLAN. BUT INITIALLY WHEN WE STARTED PROGRAMMING THE PARK, THERE WAS A SMALL BUILDING ASSOCIATED WITH THE PUBLIC PARKING AND THERE WAS BASICALLY A RESTROOM FACILITY. UM, AND THEN A SMALL, JUST, IT WOULD PROBABLY JUST BE A CITY SPACE, CITY, UH, STORAGE SPACE. BUT WE'RE ALSO THINKING THERE WOULD BE SOME SORT OF BIKE REPAIR AT THAT LOCATION, WHICH IS CENTRALLY LOCATED NEXT TO THE PARKING LOT. KIND OF MAKES SENSE TO HAVE THAT SYNERGY THERE. YEAH. THERE'S ALSO I THINK, MAYBE SOME POTENTIAL SYNERGY AT THE PINCH POINT OF THE, OF THE FUTURE BRIDGE, JUST CONSIDERING PEOPLE WOULD PROBABLY BE CROSSING THAT, UH, MAYBE AVOID HAVING TO GO DOWN HOPPER STREET OR WHAT HAVE YOU. SO MAYBE JUST ANOTHER POTENTIAL OPTION FOR LOCATION. THAT'S ALL. OKAY, THANK YOU. NO OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE? OKAY. SO THIS OPENS PUBLIC COMMENT. THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM. PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON. IF YOU HAVEN'T DONE SO ALREADY, PLEASE FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD AND BRING IT TO THE CLERK AND CLERK. HAVE YOU RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING ON THIS ITEM? NO, I DO NOT SEE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS LISTED ON THE AGENDA. THANK YOU. FIRST I HAVE DAVE ALDEN. THANK YOU. I WAS GONNA BE GONNA BEGIN MY COMMENTS BY NOTING THAT, UH, SCANNELL IS THE, IS THE SPONSOR OF THE FILM FESTIVAL. I THOUGHT I SHOULD GIVE THEM CREDIT FOR THAT. AND I LOOKED AROUND THE ROOM AND REALIZED I WAS UNDERSELLING MYSELF. THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT FAIR AND PIERCE IS A SPONSOR, SAFE STREET PETALUMA RECOMMEND, UH, REPRESENTED BY BRUCE HAGEN IS A SPONSOR. UH, THE CITY IS A SPONSOR, IS REPRESENTED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLE, EVEN THROUGH MY COUNTY BIKE COALITION, WHILE NOT A SPONSOR IS HELPING US SELL TICKETS. SO THIS IS A PREVIEW, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IN THREE WEEKS, TWO WEEKS. HOPE TO SEE YOU ALL THERE. WITH REGARD TO THE PROJECT, UH, I KEEP HEARING THE COMMENT OF HOPPER STREET IN FRONT OF SHAMROCK IS IMPOSSIBLE TO SOLVE. I GET IT. I REALLY SEE THE PROBLEM, ESPECIALLY GIVEN SOME OF THE ANTAGONISM RIGHT NOW BETWEEN SHAMROCK AND THE CITY AND OTHER DEVELOPERS. BUT THIS SITE IS WITHIN, WITHIN A HALF MILE OF TRANSIT FACILITIES. THIS IS THE STATE DEFINITION OF T O D. THIS IS WHAT THE STATE LEGISLATURE IS TELLING US. WE HAVE TO MAKE T O D, WE HAVE TO GET BIKE AND PAD, AC, BIKE AND PAD ACCESS TO TRANSIT FACILITIES. I GET THAT IT'S A PROBLEM. I GET THAT THE DEVELOPER PRO CANNOT SOLVE THIS PROBLEM ON ITS OWN, BUT IF THE CITY IS GOING TO LIVE UP TO THEIR COMMITMENT TO BE CARBON NEUTRAL, THIS IS WHERE WE JUST HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO SOLVE THIS. I DON'T KNOW, I DUNNO WHAT IT IS. I'M JUST TELLING YOU. WE HAVE TO FIND A SOLUTION ON A RELATED TOPIC, UH, I AM UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE REVISED STREET GRID OR STREET CONNECTION PATTERN. I HAVE BEEN PUSHING FOR THE IDEA OF A, UH, SHUTTLE, A SHORT HEADWAY SHUTTLE THAT CONNECTS OYSTER COVE TO 500 HOPPER TO RIVERFRONT BACK TO THE TRANSIT CENTERS, THEN TO DOWNTOWN, AND THEN DOES THE LOOP AGAIN. IT'S NOT AN INEXPENSIVE OPTION. I ESTIMATE ROUGHLY A MILLION A YEAR TO RUN SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT IT TAKES FIVE TO 7% OF ALL HOMES IN PETALUMA AND MAKE, PUT THEM IN A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN REALLY SURVIVE WITHOUT CARS. THE PROBLEM IS WHEN WE DON'T HAVE THOSE, THROUGH THOSE STRAIGHT CONNECTIONS BETWEEN THIS PROJECT AND RIVERFRONT, THE ONLY PLACE THE BUS MAKES SENSE IS DOWN HIDALGO, WHICH DOESN'T PUT IT AS CLOSE TO HOMES AS WE WOULD LIKE. I UNDERSTAND WHY WE'VE GOT TO THAT PATTERN, BUT IT'S A PATTERN THAT LOOKS LIKE WHAT PEOPLE IN 2023 WANT. AND OUR GOAL IS TO BUILD A COMMUNITY THAT WORKS IN 2040. IN FACT, I WOULD SAY THAT'S PROBABLY THE BIGGEST SINGLE PROBLEM I SEE IN ALMOST EVERY PROJECT IN PETALUMA. THE DEVELOPER HAS DONE A GREAT JOB OF TELLING US WHAT HE CAN PUT TOGETHER, WHAT HE CAN BUILD AND MARKET IN 2023, AND WE'RE GOING, BUT WE WANT SOMETHING THAT WORKS IN 2040 AND WE'RE NOT FINDING A WAY TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION OF HOW TO MELD THOSE TWO VISIONS TOGETHER. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO FIX IT EITHER, EXCEPT WE JUST NEED TO KEEP TALKING AND FIND BETTER ANSWERS THAN WE FOUND THUS FAR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU DAVE. A WEAVER. SO WHEN I LOOK AT THIS PLAN, I IMAGINE, OKAY, WHAT IF I LIVED IN THIS PROJECT? HOW WOULD I, AND I RIDE MY BIKE OR TAKE THE TRAIN ALMOST EVERYWHERE I GO AT ALL TIMES OF DAY AND NIGHT. AND I TRY TO IMAGINE IF I LIVED IN THIS PROJECT, HOW WOULD I GET WHERE I WANTED TO GO? HOW WOULD I GET TO WORK? HOW WOULD I GET TO A STORE? HOW WOULD I GET TO [01:25:01] A RESTAURANT? HOW WOULD I GET OUT OF THE FREAKING PROJECT? AND YOU BARELY. AND, AND, AND IT'S NOT THERE. IT'S NOT THERE. THE ONLY PLACES I CAN SEE WHERE YOU CAN SAFELY GET, WHERE YOU CAN GET OUT ARE OKAY, THE ROUNDABOUT AT CAWFIELD, WHICH IS FINE IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION I WANNA GO. UM, HOPPER, IF ALL WE'RE HAVING IS A CLASS TWO BIKE LANE AND THEN THE CLUSTER F**K, EXCUSE MY FRENCH, THAT IS RIGHT THERE AROUND THE TRAIN STATION, THAT'S NOT GOING TO GET PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, VERY FEW PEOPLE ARE GONNA DO THAT. I'VE BEEN ALMOST HIT AT THAT STAGE, AT THAT INTERSECTION SO MANY TIMES. AND THEN A BRIDGE INTO THE PARK. I DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS OF HOW THAT PARK IS BEING PROGRAMMED. I'M GUESSING THAT IT'S PROBABLY NOT LIKELY THAT RIDING THROUGH THE PARK, IS IT GOING TO BE LIT? AM I GONNA FEEL SAFE RIDING THROUGH A PARK TO GET HOME AND THEN A BRIDGE ACROSS THE RIVER? IS THAT GONNA BE SET UP IN A WAY THAT FEELS SAFE FOR SOMEONE TO DO? UM, THIS IS NOT A BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY PLACE TO LIVE. IT'S NOT SOMETHING, WHETHER IT'S THE, THE DEVELOPER OR THE CITY HAS TO DO SOMETHING WITH HOP, WITH HOPPER AND D STREET AND LAKEVILLE AND THAT WHOLE INTERSECTION TO MAKE, TO MAKE IT WORK, TO MAKE IT SAFE. AND I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER WAY TO GET OUT OR CROSS, YOU KNOW, OTHER THAN THOSE, THOSE THREE POINTS. AND I WOULDN'T WANNA LIVE THERE. I I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET AROUND. I WOULDN'T LET MY KID RIDE THEIR BIKE TO SCHOOL GOING IN AND OUT OF THOSE POSSIBLE LOCATIONS. IT'S, IT'S NOT, NOT GOOD FOR SCHOOLS. IT'S NOT GOOD FOR KIDS, NOT GOOD FOR ME. THANK YOU ARIS. JESSICA, MOSES, THANK YOU TO THE APPLICANT AND THE COMMISSION. UM, WHILE I UNDERSTAND THIS IS A HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, I'M MOST FOCUSED ON THE PUBLIC SPACE DEVELOPMENT IN THIS PROJECT AND ENSURING IT'S ACTUALLY ACCESSIBLE TO ALL, PERHAPS SELFISHLY, I'M QUITE LOOKING FORWARD TO SOME ADDITIONAL ACCESS TO RIGHT ALONG THE RIVER, WHICH BRINGS ME TO BATISTA. I WAS AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WORKING SESSION AND LIKED CONCEPT THREE. THE REASON I PREFERRED THREE'S DESIGN IS BECAUSE HAVING ROAD BETWEEN BLOCKS TWO AND FIVE AND THE FOUR A OPEN PARK WOULD MAKE THE PARK MORE ACCESSIBLE TO ALL. TO THAT END BATISTA WAY NEEDS SOME REVISIONS IN ORDER TO DOVETAIL INTO ACCESS TO THE PARK AS CURRENTLY DESIGNED, HAVING PARKING AND THE MULTI-USE PATH ON THE DEVELOPMENT SIDE WILL MAKE THE TRAIL FEEL LIKE AN EXTENSION OF THE DEVELOPMENT SIDEWALK AND WILL NOT BE WELCOMING TO THE GREATER PUBLIC. I'D INVITE THE APPLICANT AND COMMISSION TO THINK ABOUT ST. AUGUSTINE CIRCLE, WHICH SEPARATES, WHICH SEPARATES, UH, WISEMAN. IT GOES FRONTAGE SIDEWALK ROADWAY WITH PARKING, MULTI-USE TRAIL WISEMAN PARK, WHICH I THINK WORKS WELL FOR PEDESTRIANS AND CYCLISTS TO ACCESS THE AMENITIES OF THE PUBLIC PARK WITHOUT FEELING LIKE YOU'RE TRAIPSING THROUGH SOMEONE'S FRONT YARD. SIMILARLY, UH, SELFISHLY AS AN EASTSIDER WHO WORKS DOWNTOWN, I'LL ALSO ECHO THE CONCERNS FOR HOPPER. I RIDE THAT LENGTH CAULFIELD TO DEE DAILY AND IT'S A CHOPPY SUN BAKED MESS. AS MENTIONED, HOPPER IS THE ROAD TO ACCESS SMART FOR THE FUTURE PETALUMA RESIDENTS SCANNELL HOPES TO ATTRACT. YOU'VE ASKED FOR FEEDBACK ON THE IDEAL CROSS SECTION FOR HOPPER, AND I'D INSIST ON A PROTECTED BIKE LANE. WE NEED A RAISED BUFFER TO ENSURE DEFENSIBLE SPACE FOR RIDERS WHO ARE CURRENTLY SHARING THE ROAD WITH A VARIETY OF BIG TRUCKS. JUST THIS MORNING I WAS PASSED BY TWO CEMENT TRUCKS AND TWO GIANT RVS WHO THANKFULLY GAVE ME A WIDE BERTH. BUT AT CURRENT, AND ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE ONLY DOING 20 FEET OF ROADWAY, MIGHT HAVE TO DODGE INTO A BIKE LANE. AS FOR TREES, HOPPER IS DESPERATE FOR SHADE AND THE SPECIES CHOICE SHOULD BE TALL SO THEY DON'T CRUNCH THE SPACE AVAILABLE TO PEDESTRIANS AND CYCLISTS. IN CLOSING, I'D ENCOURAGE THE COMMISSION AND EVENTUALLY THE COUNCIL TO CONTINUE TO CONSIDER HOW THIS DEVELOPMENT CONNECTS TO OTHER PORTIONS OF THE CITY AND HOW WE'RE SETTING THE TONE FOR RIVER ACCESS AND ENCOURAGING SMART TRAIN RIDERS TO WALK A RIDE TO THE STATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU JESSICA. BRUCE, YOU LAST NAME BRUCE MUST BE ME. THANK YOU. UM, HI, AND THANKS FOR DOING THIS. THIS IS FANTASTIC. JUST TO SEE ALL THE LEVEL OF DEPTH ON THIS. I WASN'T PLANNING ON SPEAKING, BUT DEREK POINTED OUT SOMETHING IN THE H T L MILL PACKET THAT SAID THAT THE DESIGN SPEED FOR THE ROADWAY WAS 30 MILES AN HOUR. AND IT MADE US WONDER, UH, IS THE EXPECTATION THAT THE SPEEDS IN THIS DEVELOPMENT ARE [01:30:01] GONNA BE AS HIGH AS 25 OR 30 OR WILL THIS BE A 20 AS PLENTY ZONE, WHICH, UH, WE NEED TO START DOING CITYWIDE FOR EXISTING STREETS AS WELL AS NEW ONES. AND, UH, ONE OTHER THING, THANKS FOR EITHER HAVING READ OR SOON TO READ THE EMAILS THAT I SENT EARLIER ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING TO IMPLEMENT THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE CITY THREAD PROJECT, AND IT KIND OF LAYS OUT A COURSE OF ACTION WHERE WE CAN START DEALING WITH A GOOD POSSIBILITY OF GETTING THE THINGS WE WANT AND NEED ON INTERSECTIONS LIKE LAKEVILLE AND D, WHICH IS A MESS, AND REALLY D STREET AND YOU NAME IT. I COULD COME UP WITH A LOT MORE, BUT I JUST ENCOURAGE YOU TO READ THAT INFORMATION IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT IT OR WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN THE EFFORT TO MAKE ALL THAT STUFF HAPPEN. YOU KNOW HOW TO REACH ME. MY NAME IS BRUCE . THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. HAGAN. THAT BRINGS IT CLOSES PUBLIC COMMENT AND BRINGS IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE FOR DISCUSSION. OKAY. UM, SO NUMBER ONE, WE REALLY NEEDED THESE SLIDES WITH THE PACKET. LIKE IT'S, WE'RE HERE TO HELP YOU. AND, UM, I'VE GOT A LOT MORE THAT I WILL BE, YOU KNOW, WANT TO SAY, BUT THAT I DON'T EVEN KNOW BECAUSE I HAVEN'T STUDIED THE PACKET OR THE SLIDES. UM, SO THAT'S MY, MY ONE, YOU KNOW, START WITH. UM, THE SECOND THING IS, IS WE'VE GOTTA INTEGRATE THIS WITH THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT. UM, AND THIS HAS GOTTA BE BUILT WITH, UM, AS A COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT IS AS, UM, ARIS POINTED OUT, FAIRLY ISOLATED FROM A LOT OF THINGS. UM, THIS NEEDS TO BE A FAIRLY SELF-SUFFICIENT COMMUNITY. UM, BY THE END OF THIS, WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOMETHING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF EIGHT OR 900 HOMES, PROBABLY IS IN THIS, UM, IN THIS AREA IT'S ABOUT 4% OF ALL OF PETALUMA'S HOUSING STOCK. UM, I THINK WE CAN DO BETTER WITH 15 MINUTE NEIGHBORHOODS. I THINK, UM, I THINK WE HAVE TO, UM, I, AS A CITY COUNCIL PERSON, I WILL DEMAND IT, UM, OR I WON'T VOTE FOR IT. UM, THE DESIGN OF THE STREETS, UM, YOU MENTIONED A 20 MILE AN HOUR CORNER AT HIDALGO. UM, THAT'S A REALLY POOR DESIGN INTENT. UM, I THINK WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT, UM, SLOWING DOWN CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC AND THINGS LIKE THAT, IT SHOULD BE DONE THROUGH NARROWER STREETS, ALLEYS, STREETS WHERE IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD NEVER GO OVER 15 MILES AN HOUR DESIGN THIS THING. LIKE YOU'D WANNA LIVE THERE, NOT LIKE YOU WANNA DRIVE THERE. UM, THE, UM, THE, THAT BRINGS ME TO BLOCK THREE, FOUR BLOCK 1, 2, 3, AND FOUR. AND THE, THE SINGLE POINT IN SINGLE POINT OUT, I REALIZED IT WAS DONE TO, TO STOP CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC FOR RIVERFRONT, BUT IT'S A BAD DESIGN DECISION. UM, IF I LIVE IN THE BACK OF BLOCK THREE AND I NEED TO GET TO GO ON COFIELD LIKE THE, THE FOUR, YOU KNOW, FUTURE SOUTHERN CROSSING, UM, I WOULD ACTUALLY NEED TO CROSS, I'D COUNTED SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 20 AND 25 ADDITIONAL DOORS TO GO WHERE I'M TRYING TO GO. THAT'S 20 TO 25 ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES TO HIT KIDS. UM, AND WE DON'T WANT THAT. SO GRID THOSE STREETS PLEASE AND MAKE THEM NARROW AND SLOW, REALLY, REALLY SLOW. UM, UH, ALSO WHEN YOU, LIKE, I I JUST HAVE THIS FEELING THAT, UM, GARBAGE TRUCKS WILL GO IN THERE AND YOU'RE GONNA HEAR BEEP, BEEP, BEEP, BEEP, BEEP FOR ABOUT 25 MINUTES EVERY TIME, EVERY INTER EVERYONE THAT THEY'RE IN, UM, THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. UM, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT INTEGRATED BETTER. UM, THE, I THINK IT CAN BE DONE BY REORIENTING THOSE, UH, THOSE BUILDINGS AND MAYBE TAKING A SMALL, UM, LIKE A MID-BLOCK ON HIDALGO STREET BETWEEN HOPPER AND, UM, AND THE BEND THERE OF TAKING ANOTHER STREET IN THERE AND ORIENTING, UM, BUILDINGS TO THAT. UM, AND IT WILL THEN, INSTEAD OF LOOKING LIKE IT'S TWO SEPARATE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE SIDE BY SIDE, IT ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE A STREET THAT, UM, THE BUILDINGS CAN LOOK THE SAME AND THEY CAN, UM, NOT FEEL LIKE THEY'RE IN A DIFFERENT PLACE, UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE PART OF THE COMMUNITY TOO. UM, ON THE, THE RETAIL, UM, I NOTICED THAT THE PUBLIC PARKING LOT PROBABLY HAS THE, THE BEST VIEW. WE'RE GIVING CARS THE BEST, UM, THE BEST POSITION IN THIS WHOLE THING IN TERMS OF LIKE RIVER ACCESS. SO LET'S TRY AND RESHAPE THAT TO BE, UM, THE RETAIL OR YOU KNOW, LIKE IF I WAS GOING TO A RESTAURANT, I'D WANT TO EAT WHERE THE PARKING LOT IS. SO LET'S TRY AND THINK ABOUT THAT PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE, PLEASE. UM, I SUPPORT THE ROUNDABOUT, BUT I THINK AS THE, UM, COMMITTEE [01:35:01] MEMBER, UM, BOND SAID, LIKE IT FEELS A LITTLE SKETCHY TO HAVE THE THREE-WAY, UM, THE THREE-WAY ROUNDABOUT WITH THE CYCLE TRACK ALL SORT OF COMING IN AND CONVERGING IN ONE PLACE. UM, DEFINITELY STUDY THAT. BUT, UM, IT, IT FEELS LIKE, UM, A SOLUTION LOOKING FOR A PROBLEM, I GUESS IS MAYBE A, MAYBE THE TERM THAT, UM, COMES TO MIND. UM, I THINK FLEXIBLE COMMUNITY SPACES, DAYCARES, COMMUNITY ROOMS, THINGS LIKE THAT ARE LIKE REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THIS WHOLE AREA. UM, WE'VE GOTTA THINK ABOUT HOW TO, UM, ALLOW PEOPLE TO LIVE HERE. UM, THERE'S GONNA BE 800 HOMES, HOPEFULLY A LOT OF FAMILIES IN THERE WITH KIDS AND THEY'RE GONNA NEED PLACES TO PLAY, HAVE BIRTHDAY PARTIES, THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, AND I REALIZE IT MIGHT NOT PENCIL. THAT'S TO WHAT MR. ALDEN SAID EARLIER. UM, BUT WE'RE BUILDING COMMUNITIES FOR THE FUTURE AND THIS TRULY IS GONNA BE A, A FAIRLY SELF-CONTAINED COMMUNITY BECAUSE OF THE PHYSICAL BARRIERS THAT, UM, THAT ARE LOCKING IT IN. UM, THE BRIDGE IN THE STAFF REPORT, IT SET A POTENTIAL BRIDGE, BUT I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE A, A MUST BECAUSE IT IS, UM, YOU KNOW, AND I APPRECIATE THE LIGHTS IN THE PARK, WE'RE GONNA NEED TO WORK WITH PLUMA RIVER PARK ON, YOU KNOW, PARK LIGHTING, UM, IF THAT, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE THAT WORK FOR PEOPLE. UM, TWO CAR GARAGES, UH, HALF A MILE FROM A SMART STATION, UM, THAT FEELS WAY OVERDONE. WE'RE AT ABOUT 1.4 UNIT LIKE PARKING SPACES PER UNIT RIGHT NOW. UM, AND I REALIZE THAT MAY BE WHAT PETALUMA'S CURRENT MODEL IS, BUT IT'S NOT THE MODEL OF THE FUTURE AND IT'S NOT THE MODEL WE WANT AROUND OUR TRAIN STATION. I THINK ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE HAVE IS EVERYBODY IN PETALUMA, IT'S THINKING ABOUT LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A SUBURBAN TOWN RIGHT NOW, AND LIKE PART OF DIVERSIFYING OUR HOUSING STOCK NEEDS TO BE LIKE RECOGNIZING THAT THIS NEXT WAVE OF OF PETALUMA PEOPLE ARE GONNA PROBABLY RIDE THEIR BIKE MORE, THEY'RE GONNA RIDE THE TRAIN MORE, AND WE SHOULD DESIGN FOR THAT. SO, UM, I'D SAY 1.4 BIKE PARKING SPACES PER, UM, PER UNIT. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, 0.5 PARKING SPACES PER UNIT IS, IS MORE, UM, ONE IS IN MY MIND. UM, AND I SHARED A PICTURE WITH BJORN OF THE NEW APARTMENTS OVER HERE ON PETA BOULEVARD, THE LAVIA, UM, IF YOU GO BY ON THE, ON THE WATERFRONT, THEY'VE GOT BIKE PARKING THERE AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE TO IT. UM, YOU KNOW, RENTED OUT YET AND ALL THE BIKE PARKING'S COMPLETELY TAKEN. SO FROM AN APARTMENT STANDPOINT, UM, ONE BIKE PARKING SPACE PER ROOM IS TOTALLY AMPLE. LIKE YOU'RE GONNA, THEY'RE GONNA FILL IT UP AND IT WILL ACTUALLY PROMOTE RIDING BIKES. UM, UH, SEE I MENTIONED THE MORE THOUGHTFUL RETAIL PLACEMENT. I LIKE THE IDEA OF CLOSE TO THE BRIDGE AS WAS MENTIONED EARLIER. UM, BUT DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST WHERE THE PARKING LOT IS, BUT CLOSER TO THE BRIDGE MAKES IT MORE CENTRAL IN THE PROJECT IN IN GENERAL TOO. UM, I REALLY LIKE HEARING ABOUT THE BUS STOP ON HIDALGO STREET. UM, UM, YEAH, SO I MEAN, PROBABLY THE THING THAT GAVE ME THE MOST HEARTBURN WAS SEEING THAT WE DON'T HAVE A GRIT GRIDDED STREETS. LIKE WHEN WE LOOK AT WEST PETALUMA, WE'VE GOT GRIDDED STREETS, AND WHEN WE LOOK AT EAST PETALUMA, WE DON'T, AND A LOT MORE PEOPLE DRIVE OVER THERE, IT'S A LOT LESS WALKABLE. AND, UM, I REALIZED THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, THE, THE RIVERFRONT PEOPLE MAY, MAY WANT, UM, TRAFFIC NOT TO GO THROUGH, BUT IT, WE'RE JUST FUNNELING TRAFFIC ONTO DIFFERENT PLACES. IT'S ALL GOING SOMEWHERE. AND, UM, LIKE IF YOU LIVE ON BLOCK THREE AND YOU'RE IN THERE AND YOU NEED TO GO TO IN THE BACK OF BLOCK THREE AND YOU NEED TO GO TO THE GROCERY STORE, YOU'RE TRAVELING A LOT FARTHER TO GET WHERE YOU ARE TRYING TO GO. AND THAT JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO, TO HIT PEOPLE. THERE'S MORE, YOU KNOW, MORE INTERSECTIONS. THERE'S JUST ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT THINGS. SO PLEASE JUST GRID THOSE DAMN STREETS, , UM, ALL THE BUILDINGS SHOULD BE ORIENTED OUT. I THINK YOU, YOU, YOU HIT ON THAT, BUT I DEFINITELY WOULD SAY I DON'T WANNA SEE LIKE FENCES FACING ROADS. UM, I WANNA SEE LIKE STOOPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, EVEN IF THEY'RE, MOST PEOPLE ENTER THROUGH THE BACK THROUGH AN ALLEY OR GARAGE OR SOMETHING. UM, YEAH, THAT'S, UM, I THINK I MAY HAVE SOMETHING ELSE MAY COME UP AFTER HEARING EVERYBODY ELSE'S GREAT COMMENTS, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'LL START WITH. THANK YOU, . YES. UH, AND I'LL START MY COMMENTS OFF OF THE QUESTION. UM, IN LOOKING AT THE STAFF'S KIND OF TOP FOUR QUESTIONS, UH, WE WERE ASKED ABOUT THE APPROPRIATENESS OF DIFFERENT CLASS [01:40:01] OF TRAILS, ESPECIALLY VERACRUZ AND BATISTA. CAN YOU DESCRIBE, AND I'M LOOKING AT THE CROSS SECTION OF BATISTA WHERE THE BIKES, I I SHOULD POINT OUT I'M THE NEWEST MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE, SO EXCUSE ME IF THIS IS LIKE A NATION QUESTION. I'M, I'M MISSING HERE. BUT ON BATISTA IT SAYS THE GREENWAY AND FROM THE CROSS SECTION I'M SEEING WHERE ARE THE BIKES GOING THERE? I SEE THE, THE PARKWAY AREA, THE FIVE FOOT PARKWAY IS KIND OF A TREE SPACE. THERE'S A SIDEWALK, TWO TRAVEL LANES AND STREET PARKING. UH, WHERE'S THE, THE BIKE LANE? ANSWER 'EM LIVE. THAT'S OKAY. YEAH, PLEASE, THAT'D BE PERFECT. UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD GREENWAY, THOSE ARE THE CLASS THREE BIKE BOULEVARD TYPE, UH, STREETS THAT ARE THROUGHOUT THE CITY IN RESIDENTIAL STREETS WITH TRAFFIC HAULING SLOW SPEEDS, LOW TRAFFIC. SO THAT BIKES ARE IN, IN WITH SHARED. THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY HAVE THE WHOLE STREET. OKAY. OKAY, GOOD. I'M GLAD I SAID I WAS THE NEWEST MEMBER THAT THAT PROVES IT. UM, YES. PERFECT. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE. SURE. UM, I THINK FOR ME, I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ON HOPPER STREET, IF POSSIBLE, FOR THAT TO BE A PROTECTED BIKE LANE. UM, I WAS ALSO GONNA ASK FOR US TO GIVE A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT THOSE BARRIERS ARE. I KNOW THE APPLICANT HINTED AT IT, THE BARRIERS AND WORKING WITH THE CITY AND OTHER PARTIES TO EXTEND, UH, THOSE, THAT CROSS SECTION DOWN THROUGH HOPPER AND START DEALING WITH SOME OF THESE BIGGER ISSUES. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S OUTTA SCOPE OR IF THERE'S ANYTHING MORE PARTICULAR YOU CAN GIVE US IN THAT CONVERSATION. IF, IF THERE'S BEEN KIND OF FAILED, STARTS AT TRYING TO WORK SOMETHING OUT, UH, WITH OTHER PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS OR WHAT'S HAPPENED THERE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU CAN. YEAH, SO WE HAVE, AND I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT RIGHT OF WAY WIDTH, BUT WE HAVE A, A WIDTH, I THINK IT'S CALL IT 40 FEET OR THIR 50 FEET, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND THEN IT REDUCES DOWN TO THE EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY WIDTH, WHICH IS ABOUT 25 OR 30. SO, UM, WE CAN CONTROL THE RIGHT OF WAY WIDTH ON OUR FRONTAGE. YOU CAN, YOU CAN JUST TAKE THAT AMOUNT OF SPACE AWAY FROM THE PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT AND WE'RE FINE WITH THAT. BUT, UM, IF YOU GO DOWN IN, IN FRONT OF WHERE SHAMROCK CONSTRUCTION'S LOCATED, THAT RIGHT OF WAY WIDTH STAYS THE SAME. SO UNLESS YOU PURCHASE ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY TO MATCH THE SECTION, UM, YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO KEEP THAT CONSISTENCY ALL THE WAY DOWN TO D STREET. SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO BUY OR DO SOME SORT OF IMMINENT DOMAIN TO, UM, CAPTURE SOME OF THAT PRIVATE PROPERTY IN ORDER TO KEEP THAT CONSISTENT ALL THE WAY DOWN. AND JUST BECAUSE BJORN, WE HAVE YOU HERE, HAVE THERE BEEN ANY MEETINGS BETWEEN ALL PARTIES INVOLVED TO DISCUSS THIS? HAVE THERE BEEN INTERNAL CITY MEETINGS? JUST SO WE KIND OF SEE, I'M, I'M SURE THIS HAS BEEN THOUGHT ABOUT, LIKE MOST BIG ISSUES WE RUN ACROSS. UM, AS FAR AS HOPPER STREET IN FRONT OF, UM, THE SHAMROCK PROPERTY, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THERE HAVE NOT BEEN ANY MEETINGS TO DISCUSS THE, THE ROADWAY THERE. UM, THAT BEING SAID, YOU KNOW, WITH ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, ACTIVITY IN THIS AREA, UH, IT, IT DOES, YOU KNOW, IT, IT WOULD MAKE A LOT OF SENSE TO ELEVATE IT AS A PRIORITY. UM, WE DON'T HAVE AN ACTIVE C I P PROJECT FOR HOPPER STREET, SO, UM, ALL OF THAT'S UH, YOU KNOW, UP TO FURTHER CONSIDERATION BY OUR CITY COUNCIL AND, AND CITY LEADERSHIP. WELL, I THINK WITH THE CONFLUENCE OF OYSTER COVE, YOU KNOW, SHAMROCK GETTING INVOLVED THERE, THIS DEVELOPMENT, OKAY, THAT'D BE GREAT TO SEE THOSE CONVERSATIONS DEVELOP. UM, SO I WOULD SAY THAT, YEAH, PROTECTIVE BIKE LANE ON HOPPER FOR THIS SECTION, I DO LIKE THAT IDEA. UM, AND BECAUSE THAT IS GONNA BE THE MAIN IN AND OUT FOR FOLKS, UH, BIKING OR USING ACTIVE TRANSPORT, UH, I DO ALSO WANT TO ADVOCATE FOR HOPPER AGAIN ON A SLIGHTLY AS BIGGEST POSSIBLE TREE WELLS. I UNDERSTAND THE 10 FOOT SIDEWALK FOR OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS. UM, SO I KIND OF LEAVE THAT TO THE CITY TEAM AND YOUR TEAM. UH, ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO AIR ON THE SIDE OF MORE SPACE FOR BIGGER TREES THERE I THINK IS GREAT. AGAIN, IN MY HEAD, I ALWAYS THINK OF SYCAMORES AS KIND OF THE IDEAL, UH, TO GIVE US SHADE AND, AND COVERAGE THERE. UM, LOCATION OF REQUIRED BICYCLE AMENITIES. UH, I THINK I'LL, I'LL ECHO A LOT OF OTHER FOLKS HERE. THOSE AMENITIES AROUND A POTENTIAL CROSSING FOR THE RIVER PARK. I REMEMBER IN THE EARLY CONCEPT WE SAW A PLANNING, THERE MIGHT'VE BEEN A PUBLIC GARDEN POTENTIALLY PROPOSED THERE AS WELL. UM, AND THERE'S THAT KIND OF JUD OUT OF SPACE THERE WHERE THAT BRIDGE WOULD GO. I THINK HAVING BIKE AMENITIES THERE, BUT THEN ALSO, UH, IF IT ENDS UP BEING PUBLIC PARKING OR NOT, I REMEMBER THERE WERE TWO POTENTIAL PUBLIC PARKING OPTIONS WHERE IT IS NOW BETWEEN FIVE AND SIX, BUT ALSO THERE WAS AN OPTION ON THE SOUTH WHERE CURRENTLY THERE'S THE BLUE, UM, MULTI-USE LANE THAT CONTINUES ALL THE WAY AND THERE'S A LITTLE STRETCH OF IT TO THE SOUTH THAT KIND OF GOES IN BETWEEN THE RIVERSIDE TRAIL AND BATISTA. I REMEMBER THERE WAS TALK OF A POTENTIAL PUBLIC PARKING SPOT THERE. UM, ALL THAT TO SAY, I THINK WHERE IT IS NOW, IF THAT ENDS UP BEING THE FINAL REST, UH, LOCATION AND IF THERE ENDS UP BEING THAT RIVER ACCESS THERE, I THINK THAT'S A NO-BRAINER TO HAVE BICYCLE AMENITIES THERE. UM, I THINK OBVIOUSLY ANY POTENTIAL COMMERCIAL OR RETAIL, ANY OTHER RIVER ACCESS [01:45:01] POINTS. UM, AND YEAH, ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT HAVING BENCHES ALONG THAT TRAIL ALONG THE WHOLE OUTER RIVERSIDE TRAIL BENCHES ON THAT NORTH SIDE, FACING OUT TO THE RIVER AT THE APPROPRIATE INTERVALS, I THINK IS A MUST. AGAIN, THAT MIGHT BE A NO-BRAINER IN YOUR DESIGN. UM, DESIRED LIGHTING AND WAYFINDING, UH, AGAIN, JUST FOR ME, HARMONIZING WITH WHAT'S GONNA BE EXISTING AT RIVERFRONT, BUT THEN ALSO MAKING SURE THAT WE CALL OUT CONNECTIONS WITHIN THE CITY. UM, CONNECTIONS TO TRANSIT, OFFSITE DESTINATIONS, OBVIOUSLY IF THAT BRIDGE COMES IN, CAN CONNECTIONS TO RIVERFRONT, JUST CALLING OUT AND DIRECTING PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY PEOPLE WHO DON'T USE THOSE TRAILS A LOT, WHERE THEY CAN GO AND HOW THEY CAN CONNECT TO TRY TO INCENTIVIZE THEM TO USE IT MORE, UH, LIGHTING, I THINK ALONG THAT RIVERSIDE TRAIL TOO, WE WANNA BE CAREFUL ON LIGHTING. I THINK PART OF THE DESIRE IN KEEPING THAT SETBACK ALMOST UNTOUCHED, THE PETALUMA RIVER SETBACK LEADING UP TO THE TRAIL ALMOST UNTOUCHED, WAS TO KIND OF ALMOST HAVE SOME KIND OF REWILDING GOING ON THERE. REALLY LEAVE IT OPEN AS A NATURAL SPACE. SO I THINK WE DO WANNA BE CAREFUL ON LIGHTING DESIGN THERE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT JUST MEANS MAKING SURE LIGHTING IS AGAIN ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE TRAIL, UH, IF IT'S JUST CERTAIN DOWNCAST LIGHTING, BUT TO LIMIT TONS OF LIGHT EXPOSURE SPILLING OUT INTO THAT NATURAL SPACE WOULD BE, WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE. UH, JUST TO KEEP WITH THAT THEME OF TRYING TO KEEP THAT RIVERSIDE AREA THAT SETBACK, UM, RELATIVELY UNTOUCHED OR NOT HAVE TOO MANY HUMAN IMPACTS. UM, BUT I DO HEAR OTHER OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBERS CONCERNS ABOUT MAKING SURE IT'S LIT ENOUGH TO BE SAFE. UH, SO, UH, YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. UM, AND THEN ON DESIRED PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE IMPROVEMENTS ALONG THE RIVERFRONT, UH, REALLY I ALREADY CALLED OUT BENCHES. UH, AGAIN, WE'RE NOT AT A PLANTING PLAN. AGAIN, TREES ARE GONNA COME INTO PLAY IN A REALLY BIG WAY THERE, BUT DEPENDING ON HOW FAITHFUL WE NEED TO BE TO THE RIVER ACCESS ENHANCEMENT PLAN, BUT JUST OVERALL APPROPRIATE TREE COVERAGE ACROSS ALL TRAILS IS WHAT MAKES THEM MORE USABLE. UM, AND I KNOW, I KNOW WE'VE KIND OF COVERED THAT THROUGHOUT, SO I'LL KIND OF LIMIT, UH, MY COMMENTS THERE 'CAUSE I WILL SEE THIS ON PLANNING AGAIN. BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, AND I WAS, AND I WAS ONE THAT PUSHED ON PLANNING OR THROUGHOUT THE IDEA OF THE CURRENT GREENWAY PROMENADE BETWEEN BLOCKS TWO AND FOUR, ONE AND THREE. IT LOOKS LIKE RIGHT NOW GUADALUPE DOES KIND OF GO SOUTH, CONNECT WITH PICO AND BATISTA AGAIN. IS THAT, AM I SEEING THAT RIGHT? AND THEN ABOVE THAT NORTH OF GUADALUPE, IS THAT JUST EMERGENCY VEHICLE OR IS THAT GRIDDED STREET AS WELL? IT, THE IDEA WOULD BE E V A VEHICLE ONLY AT THIS POINT. UH, I SUPPOSE, YOU KNOW, THINKING THROUGH WHAT BRIAN BARNACLE WAS SAYING, YOU COULD, YOU COULD HAVE ACCESS AND THEN JUST CUT IT OFF, BUT I THINK THAT GOES AGAINST THE GRIDDED STREET IDEA. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT, IF THAT WOULD WORK, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE OPEN TO ANYTHING. UM, YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE NEED THAT TO BE A GRIDDED STREET, WE'RE DEFINITELY OPEN TO IT. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO, WE'RE LISTENING TO THE POINT NEIGHBORS AS WELL, AND WE, WE WANT TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS. SO, UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE DEFINITELY OPEN TO KEEPING THAT GRIDDED. UH, OKAY. WELL THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. THANKS. THANK YOU, TERRY. HELLO. UH, THANKS. I'LL JUST ECHO A FEW COMMENTS IN AGREEMENT AND THEN ASK SOME ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. I'M DEFINITELY IN SUPPORTIVE OF MORE SINGLE CAR, ONE CAR GARAGES VERSUS TWO, I THINK TWO SENDS THE WRONG MESSAGE FOR THIS PROJECT AS IT IS, LIKE WE'VE HEARD TONIGHT, LOCATION TO THE SMART TRAIN AND REALLY FOCUSING ON TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT. UM, ALSO 20 IS PLENTY. WE HEARD THAT AS WELL. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS, UM, SOMETHING INCORRECT IN ONE OF THE REPORTS, BUT IT WOULD DEFINITELY ADVOCATE FOR 20 MILE PER HOUR OR LESS, UH, SPEED LIMIT THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT. WOULD LOVE FOR THE CITY TO MAYBE BJORN THIS AS FOR YOU SEPARATELY, BUT TO HEAR ANOTHER TIME HOW THE CITY'S MICRO TRANSIT PROGRAM MIGHT CONNECT WITH NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE THIS AND SERVE THESE TYPES OF NEIGHBORHOODS AS THAT EXPANDS. UM, WOULD LOVE TO SEE AT THE GREENWAY PROMENADE AT THOSE MID-BLOCK CROSSING SOME RAISED CROSSWALKS SO THAT CARS THAT ARE PASSING THROUGH KNOW THAT IT'S, UH, I HAVE TO LOOK OUT FOR SOMETHING. THERE'S, THERE'S SOMEONE, UH, WALKING THERE AND PEDESTRIANS ARE A LITTLE MORE PROTECTED. AND THEN SIMILAR, SIMILARLY ON HOPPER, I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE A PROTECTED BIKE LANE IF THIS IS ACTUALLY GONNA BE A SAFE ROAD FOR PEOPLE TO TAKE TO THE TRAIN STATION. AND SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO THINK CREATIVELY ABOUT DRIVEWAYS AT DRIVEWAYS. CAN THE BIKE LANE JUST BE RAISED? AND SO THE, THAT, THAT OFFERS SOME LEVEL OF PROTECTION FOR THE BIKE AND TELLS THE CAR THAT THEY'RE [01:50:01] PASSING THROUGH. UM, I MEAN, CITIES HAVE DONE THIS AND HAVE WORKED WITH, WITH DRIVEWAYS AND, UM, AND BIG VEHICLES. SO I FEEL LIKE WE CAN FIGURE OUT A WAY TO, WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. UM, AND THEN ALSO ENCOURAGE THE, THE CITY TO PRIORITIZE THROUGH OUR E T P, SOME HOPPER LAKEVILLE, ET CETERA, IMPROVEMENTS IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT TIMELINE FOR THIS, THIS, UH, PROJECT WOULD ALSO ENCOURAGE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO BE THROUGHOUT AND NOT A HUGE FAN OF IT BEING KIND OF SILOED OFF TO THE SIDE. AND IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S ONLY ONE TYPE OF HOUSING. PEOPLE NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING OF ALL DIFFERENT STYLES, AND NOT JUST APARTMENTS, BUT THE DUETS AND THE TOWNHOUSES, ET CETERA. AND THEN LASTLY, WELL, TWO THINGS, SORRY, UH, LIGHTING. I KNOW CLOVER, UH, BEHIND CLOVER, THAT DEVELOPMENT THERE IS LIGHTING. I THINK IT'S NOT NEARLY ENOUGH AND A LOT OF THEM ARE ALREADY BROKEN OR DON'T SEEM TO BE WORKING. SO I THINK THAT NEEDS TO NOT BE LOOKED AT AS AN EXAMPLE, BUT WE NEED TO RE RETHINK THAT LIGHTING OVER THERE. UM, AND SO YEAH, I, I WOULD DEFINITELY ENCOURAGE TO PERHAPS A BALANCE NOT TO DISTURB THE, THE NATURAL AREA JUST BEYOND, BUT DEFINITELY WANNA HAVE IT ENOUGH LIGHTING SO PEOPLE ACTUALLY USE IT WHEN IT IS DARK OUT AND IT FEELS SAFE AND YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU'RE GONNA FLY OFF YOUR BIKE, UM, INTO THE RIVER OR DOWN A, A LITTLE, UH, EMBANKMENT. UM, AND LAST COMMENT IS, I, I WOULD ENCOURAGE TO MAYBE LOOK AT DEEDED RESTRICTION FOR A CORNER STORE BECAUSE IF WE WANT THIS TO BE A 15 MINUTE NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S NICE THAT A RESTAURANT CAN DRAW PEOPLE FROM OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT THE POINT OF THIS IS TO HAVE TO NOT HAVE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE HAVE TO TAKE TRIPS BEYOND, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS WHAT THEY NEED WITHIN THIS COMMUNITY. SO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOMETHING THAT SERVES THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE. A RESTAURANT WOULD BE NICE TOO, UM, BUT I THINK IN ADDITION TO SOMETHING THAT REALLY SERVES A COMMUNITY IN A CORNER STORE WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YES. ALL RIGHT. UM, UH, YEAH, DEFINITELY LOVE THAT IDEA OF HAVING SOME TYPE OF DEEDED RESTRICTION ON GROCERY STORE. I THINK THAT'S VITAL. UM, AND AS WELL, ECHOING THE COMMENT TOO, JUST HOW VALUABLE IT CAN BE TO HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT KIND OF HOUSING OPTIONS, WHICH ARE PROVIDED ACROSS THE SITE. I DO LIKE THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING'S RIGHT NEXT TO THE, TO THE CHANNEL, SO THAT'S A NICE VIEW. BUT I THINK GETTING VARIOUS, UM, AFFORDABLE OPTIONS BESIDES JUST SAY APARTMENT BUILDINGS WOULD BE PREFERRED. UM, I WAS TAKING IRIS'S SUGGESTION OF LIVING IN BRO BLOCK THREE SOMEWHERE NEEDING TO GO TO THE GROCERY STORE AND THINKING ABOUT, WELL, IF I NEED TO DO A BIGGER TRIP AND I WANT TO GO TO SAFEWAY, WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? YOU KNOW, WANTING TO MAYBE RIDE MY BIKE. AND I JUST THINKING ABOUT KIND OF KAUF FIELD AND LAKEVILLE, UM, I'M JUST TRYING TO EITHER, YOU KNOW, GO STRAIGHT, I WANT TO GO GET SOME MEXICAN FOOD AT ORTEGAS OR GO LEFT. THERE'S NOT EVEN A CROSSWALK THERE FOR ONE TO CROSS OVER ON THE, WHAT IS THAT, THE SOUTHERN SIDE, UM, ACROSS LAKEVILLE. SO IT'S ONLY THREE CROSSINGS ON THAT STREET, BUT THEN YEAH, WANTING TO MAKE THAT LEFT TO ACCESS, UM, SAFE, UH, OR LUCKY I GUESS IT IS THERE, YOU KNOW, JUST THINKING ABOUT MAYBE SOME IMPROVEMENTS THERE. IT'S, THEY'RE VERY TIGHT. I'M SORRY, THEY'RE VERY SOFT CORNERS AS WELL TOO. SO BULB BOUTS, A, A BIKE BOX TURN LANE, SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES I THINK COULD BE REALLY HELPFUL OF JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE, YOU KNOW, THE SHOPPING CENTERS THAT ARE CLOSEST TO IT ARE SAFE TO GET TO. AND THEN I THINK MY LAST COMMENT IS JUST MAYBE OVERALL AROUND JUST BUILDING DESIGN. I'M JUST, I GUESS THINKING ABOUT HOW WE CAN DESIGN BUILDINGS FOR THE FUTURE AND THINK ABOUT THE KNOWLEDGE THAT WE DO HAVE. A BIG PART OF THINK HOW WE DESIGN THESE FROM SCRATCH IS ORIENTING THEM TOWARDS THE SUN AND REALLY MAXIMIZING THAT KIND OF SOLAR GAIN. SO KIND OF IN THAT NORTH SOUTH ORIENTATION AND JUST MAKING SURE THAT KIND OF PRIORITIZE HOW THE LAYOUT IS, IS DESIGNED. I THINK MAKING SURE THAT HOMES ARE EFFICIENT IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT. SECONDLY, MAKING SURE THERE'S COMMUNITY SPACES AND, YOU KNOW, SAFE WAYS TO TRAVEL. AND I THINK THEN LASTLY, KIND OF WHERE THE PARKING, AUTOMOBILE PARKING MIGHT GO. THAT SHOULD BE KIND OF THE LAST CONSIDERATION, BUT DESIGN EVERYTHING AROUND THOSE KIND OF BUILD OR BUILDING ORIENTATION AND SAFE ROUTES [01:55:01] IN PUBLIC SPACES FIRST. UM, SO I, SORRY, COMING IN HERE A LITTLE BIT LATE LOOKING AT THESE DESIGNS, BUT JUST WANNA REALLY EMPHASIZE THAT FOR SUCH A GREAT OPPORTUNITY OF THIS BLANK SLATE OF LAND THAT WE REALLY TRY TO MAXIMIZE THE GREEN BUILDING DESIGN FEATURES THAT WE ALL, ALL, YOU KNOW, REALLY KNOW ABOUT AND ARE PROVEN. SO, UM, JUST NOT DOING THE SAME KIND OF STANDARD MODEL THAT HAS BEEN DONE FOR, FOR DECADES. THAT'S IT. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD, I WOULD LIKE TO ECHO THE, THE COMMENTS UP HERE. UM, AND I'M ALSO THINKING ABOUT THE, THE GREENWAY PROMENADE. I, I LIKE THE IDEA, I DON'T THINK THAT EVERYONE WOULD NECESSARILY BE USING THIS, AND THAT'S MY ASSUMPTION. MAYBE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE CLOSE BY, BUT I THINK PRIMARILY PEOPLE WILL BE USING THE TRAIL ALONG THE RIVER, UM, OR GOING TO THE PARK. I, I AM JUST WONDERING IF THAT LAND COULD BE BETTER UTILIZED AS A TRUE COMMUNITY SPACE, LIKE TO HAVE GARDENS WITHIN THE BLOCKS OR LIKE COMMUNITY GARDENS OR A BARBECUE AREA, INSTEAD OF TALKING ABOUT HAVING VOLLEYBALL OR THESE THINGS JUST WITHIN THE OPEN SPACE PARK. LIKE WHAT WE COULD DO WITHIN THE BLOCKS TO MAKE IT BE MORE, UM, COMMUNITY ORIENTED THERE. AND, UM, AND I ESPECIALLY WANNA ECHO THE COMMENTS ABOUT THE 15 MINUTE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE DEEDED RESTRICTIONS. THANK YOU, PAM. PLEASE. I'D ALSO LIKE TO, UM, ECHO THE, UH, THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE GONE BEFORE MINE. UM, I, I, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT THIS PROPOSED SUBDIVISION, UH, SEEMS ISOLATED AND THE CONNECTIVITY TO THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT AND THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL COME AFTER THIS, I THINK IT IS REALLY CRITICAL. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO BE THINKING ABOUT THAT. UM, SOME OF THE GREEN SPACES. UM, I WONDER HOW, UH, USEFUL, FOR EXAMPLE, SOME OF THE GREEN SPACE IS REALLY GONNA BE ON THE, UH, NEAR TO BATISTA, UM, TOWARDS THE RIVERSIDE. SO I, I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME, PERHAPS SOME DIFFERENT IDEAS ON HOW THAT, UH, LAND CAN BE USED. BUT I, I'D LIKE TO REMEMBER THAT IN THE RIVER, UH, ENHANCEMENT PLAN THERE WAS THE CONCEPT OF BRINGING THE PUBLIC DOWN AND CREATING A SPACE WHERE PEOPLE WOULD SAY, HEY, LET'S GO DOWN TO THE RIVER AND HAVE MULTIPLE OPTIONS TO BRING A KAYAK, BRING A PICNIC. AND I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT THE PLANNING, UH, IS THAT YOU HAVE IN MIND, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME HUBS. UM, MAYBE THE RESTAURANT COULD BE CLOSER TO WHERE THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE IS AND MAYBE THE GREEN SPACE COULD BE GIVEN MORE PROMINENCE. AND WHEN YOU COULD DO SOMETHING A LITTLE DIFFERENT WITH THAT ONE PARKING, UH, LOT THAT'S SHOWN, UH, BY LOT SIX, UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE EMPHASIS COULD BE TURNED FLIPPED A LITTLE BIT SO THAT THERE'S MORE, MORE WAYS TO BRING THE PUBLIC DOWN, UH, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, STILL ALLOW SOMEONE TO WHAT, BRING A KAYAK AND PUT IT IN, IF THAT WAS A POSSIBILITY. UM, THE, THE KIND OF THE, THE, THE CENTER PARKING THAT'S SHOWN IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE BUILDINGS IN, UH, BLOCKS BLOCK SIX, IT, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THERE'S, UM, AN EMPHASIS ON PARKING, LIKE A SEA OF PARKING IN THE CENTER. AND I WONDER IF THAT COULD BE REVISITED. IT, IT JUST SEEMS, UM, LIKE, IT'S JUST LIKE DOMINATING THAT, THAT AREA. UM, AND I, I ECHO THE COMMENTS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, REALLY HOW MANY DO WE HAVE TO PLAN FOR TWO CARS FOR EACH, UH, RESIDENTIAL UNIT? I GUESS I'D LIKE TO THINK THAT WE COULD REDUCE THAT AND CREATE SOME MORE, MAYBE SOME SMALLER GREEN SPACES WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT, UM, THAT SERVE, YOU KNOW, A SMALLER AREA. I LIKE THE IDEA OF A SMALLER COMMUNITY GARDEN OR, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME LITTLE PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO GATHER WITHIN, WITHIN THE, THESE AREAS. UM, I ALSO LIKE THE IDEA OF, UH, INTERSPERSED AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS WELL. UM, THE IDEA OF A A RESTAURANT OR, OR SOME KIND OF AN, AN AMENITY WHERE SOMEBODY COULD GET A SANDWICH AND A COUPLE OF GROCERIES, I THINK IS A GREAT IDEA. UM, YEAH. SO TH THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE MY, MY THOUGHTS. [02:00:03] YES. I'M PRETTY SURE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS OVER THERE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T CAPTURE THE TAX CREDITS, RIGHT? IF YOU, RIGHT. SO THE WAY AFFORDABLE HOUSING WORKS IS IF YOU SCATTER IT THROUGH THE WHOLE THING, YOU CAN'T CAPTURE THE TAX CREDITS. AND THAT'S LIKE KEY TO FUNDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND THAT MEANS THAT ALL OF THE MARKET RATE UNITS ARE ACTUALLY SUBSIDIZING THE AFFORDABLE UNITS, MAKING THEM HAVE TO PAY MORE. SO IF WE WANT TO TRY AND KEEP IT AFFORDABLE FOR THE MARKET RATE, PEOPLE LIKE, YOU KNOW, OUR TEACHERS, OUR FIREFIGHTERS, THINGS LIKE THAT TO GET IN. LIKE, THAT'S PART OF THE REASON IS JUST YOU, YOU KIND OF HAVE TO LIKE MO YOU HAVE TO HAVE THOSE SEPARATE PROJECTS. THAT'S LIKE THE REASON WHY THEY'RE DOING IT, AT LEAST THAT WAY. AND THAT'S WHY OUR INCLUSIONARY HOUSING ORDINANCE IS, I WOULDN'T SAY IT'S A SUCCESS AS MUCH AS WE, UM, IT, IT SOUNDS GREAT. YES. ADAM, MAYBE JUST ONE MINOR CORRECTION. I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE SOUTHERN PART OF VERACRUZ STREET WHERE THERE'S A CLASS FOUR LITTLE STUB, UM, ON SOUTH SIDE OF BATISTA WAY, I GUESS IS CLASS FOUR TECHNICALLY. SHOULDN'T THAT BE, THAT'S ONLY FOR ON STREET. AND THERE'S NO STREET THERE. SO SHOULD THAT BE A CLASS ONE LITTLE STUB? MM-HMM. , MAYBE JUST, OKAY. JUST DOUBLE CHECK. THANKS CONTINUITY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YES, FRANKLY, UM, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, TAKE ONE MOMENT AND JUST SHARE THAT I'M REALLY KIND OF EXCITED ABOUT THE PROJECT. UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S LOTS OF SUGGESTIONS FOR IMPROVEMENT AND FEEDBACK. UM, BUT HONESTLY, ANYTIME WE CAN GET MORE HOMES IN PETALUMA, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE A LITTLE DENSER, UM, AND CLOSER TO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, LIKE SMART. UM, I, I'LL, YOU KNOW, HAVING SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, I'LL ECHO A COUPLE OF KEY POINTS, UM, MAKE IT BRIEF. UM, YOU KNOW, I, I DO LIKE THE, THE COMMENTS ABOUT MAKING THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, YOU KNOW, NOT LOOK AND FEEL SEPARATE. RIGHT? ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE THAT, UM, TO REMAIN PART OF THE COMMUNITY, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH, UH, SIMILAR BUILDINGS, SIMILAR LOOK AND FEEL. UM, I THINK, UM, I THINK THAT'S, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY A GOOD THING. I, UH, MORE BIKING, MORE BIKE PARKING, MORE BIKE AMENITIES, UH, YOU KNOW, FEWER PLACES TO PARK CARS. I, I KNOW LIKE SOMEONE WHO LIVES ON THE EAST SIDE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS ON THE EAST SIDE THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF CARS ON THE STREETS AND I WISH THAT IT WAS DIFFERENT. UM, SO I DON'T WANT TO CREATE THAT. BUT, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THIS, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT THOUGHTFULLY DESIGNED TO ENCOURAGE, UM, YOU KNOW, OTHER FORMS OF TRA, OTHER FORMS OF ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION. UM, AND, AND, AND REALLY, YOU KNOW, TRY TO DESIGN FOR THE FUTURE, UM, THERE. UM, AND THEN LASTLY, I'D LIKE ALSO, AS SOMEONE WHO LIVES ON THE SOUTHEAST SIDE, UM, AND MAKES HIS WAY TO DOWN DOWNTOWN PETALUMA FREQUENTLY, UM, I, I, YOU KNOW, WOULD JUST SAY, DON'T, UM, UNDERESTIMATE THE DEMAND FOR PEOPLE WANTING TO DRIVE THROUGH THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN THAT SOUTHERN BRIDGE GETS BUILT. RIGHT. I'M, UH, I'M SOMEONE WHO DRIVES THE COURT OF MADERA ON A REGULAR BASIS TO GO TO WORK, AND EVERY MORNING WHEN I GET ON THE PETALUMA BRIDGE, I LOOK DOWN TO SEE IF THEY'VE STARTED BUILDING THAT BRIDGE YET. RIGHT? UM, AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE IN MY COMMUNITY THAT ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. UM, AND SO AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT OFFERS HERE OTHER THAN TO SAY, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I, I THINK THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA WANNA TRAVEL THAT WAY. AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST BE PREPARED FOR IT. THAT MAKES IT EVEN SCARIER. , YES. UM, TO DO A BIT OF ECHOING AS MANY OF US HAVE BEEN DOING IN THE LAST FIVE MINUTES. UM, I VERY MUCH WOULD LIKE TO SEE PROTECTED BIKE LANES ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF HOPPER. I THINK THAT'S AB ABSOLUTELY IMPERATIVE. I KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, WELL, IF WE GO DOWN A LITTLE FURTHER, UM, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE HARD PERHAPS FOR THE CITY TO DEMAND PROTECTED BIKE LANES, UM, IN FRONT OF THE CEMENT COMPANY. BUT THERE'S A, AT LEAST THERE'S A LOT OF SPACE IN FRONT OF THE CEMENT COMPANY. I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF OFF, OFF ROAD SPACE, UM, [02:05:01] WHICH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE COULD MAKE SOME KIND OF A DEAL, BUT I WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO SEE, UM, PROTECTED BIKE LANES. I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY WAY ANY BICYCLIST STORE, UM, EVEN A PEDESTRIAN WHO'S USING INAPPROPRIATELY THE, THE PROTECTED BIKE LANE TO GET FROM POINT A TO POINT B, IT'S THE ONLY WAY TO KEEP THEM SAFE. UM, DAVE ALDEN'S IDEA OF THE MICRO TRANSIT, UM, THAT'S AN IDEA THAT I THINK WE REALLY OUGHT TO LOOK INTO AS A CITY. UM, NOT THAT IT, NOT THAT IT, I MEAN, IT WOULD HAVE SOMETHING TO DO. I THINK IT WOULD HELP THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT FEEL LESS ISOLATED. UM, MAYBE SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING THERE AND DON'T WANNA TAKE THEIR CAR OUT BUT DON'T RIDE THEIR BIKE, FOR EXAMPLE. WOULDN'T IT BE EASIER IF THEY COULD HOP A SHUTTLE AND THE SHUTTLE COULD TAKE THEM TO A DOWNTOWN LOCATION OR TAKE THEM TO THE SMART TRAIN STATION IF IT WERE RAINING? I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S WE SHOULD BE LOOKING INTO. AND ALSO THE EVERY 15 MINUTE CONCEPT OF, UM, RETAIL NEEDS TO SERVE THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE, A SMALL GROCERY STORE IS REALLY IMPORTANT, UM, TO THAT CONCEPT. AND THAT'S A CONCEPT THAT I HOPE PETALUMA WILL CONTINUE TO PURSUE. I HAD ONE OTHER QUESTION. UM, ARE THERE ELECTRIC CAR HOOKUPS HERE? I DIDN'T HEAR ANY MENTION, WE DIDN'T ASK ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. YES, THERE WILL BE, EVERY HOME WILL HAVE THE CONNECTION FOR AN EV CAR. SO EACH UNIT WILL HAVE A CONNECTION EVERY SINGLE FAMILY HOME, AND THEN THERE WILL BE A COLLECTION OF, OF SOME PERCENTAGE FOR THE MULTIFAMILY UNITS. I DON'T THINK IT'S A ONE-TO-ONE ON THE MULTIFAMILY. I THINK THE REQUIREMENT IS LESS, BUT WE WOULD FOLLOW STATE AND CITY REQUIREMENTS AT THAT POINT. GREAT. THANK YOU. BUT ALL THE HOMES WILL HAVE THEM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. AND THEN ONE FINAL QUESTION, UH, WALKER, I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT RETAIL AT THE SITE BEFORE. OBVIOUSLY THE COMPLEXION OF RETAIL CHANGED MASSIVELY. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT ANY, UM, RETAIL STUDIES? YOU GUYS HAVE DONE RETAIL DEMAND STUDIES, I KNOW PREVIOUSLY, UM, I I WASN'T SURE YOUR GUYS' EXPERIENCE WITH KIND OF SMALLER SCALE RETAIL AND SOME OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS OR WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS AROUND THAT WERE, JUST BECAUSE WE'RE HEARING ECHOED UP HERE, AND I LOVE THE IDEA OF ARTFULLY PLACED CORNER STORE OR SOMETHING. I MEAN, I LIVE ON THE WEST SIDE NEAR RAY'S DELI AND LOVE IT. BUT I JUST WONDERED, UH, WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE EXPLORED IN TERMS OF VIABILITY AND THINGS LIKE THAT. YEAH, MOST OF OUR STUDIES HAVE BEEN AROUND THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION OF THE PROJECT. UM, AS FAR AS RETAIL GOES, IT'S REALLY JUST BEEN CONVERSATION WITH BROKERS AND WHAT WOULD WORK WELL. SO, I MEAN, REALLY WE'RE TAKING THE LEAD OF, OF PEOPLE LIKE DAVE AND OTHERS IN THE CITY WHO, WHO WANT THIS TO BE A TRUE 15 MINUTE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO, AND, AND AS FAR AS THE SIZE, WHAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO DO IS JUST MAKE IT, UM, PART OF ONE OF THE BOTTOM FLOORS OF THE MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS. THAT'S WHY IT'S LOCATED WHERE IT IS NOW. I HEAR THE COMMENTS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S ACTUALLY THE PARKING LOT IS LIKE THE BEST, THE BEST GEOGRAPHY ON THE SITE, WHICH I, I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT COMMENT. BUT, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S THE WAY IT'S CURRENTLY LAID OUT THE WAY IT IS. IT'S NOT, THERE HAVEN'T BEEN ANY SPECIFIC RETAIL STUDIES AROUND THE SITE. UM, YOU KNOW, WE VIEW THIS AS, AS IT IS A MIXED USE BECAUSE OF THE RETAIL COMPONENT, BUT, UH, IT'S MAINLY RESIDENTIAL HEAVY WITH, WITH A SMALL PORTION OF MIXED USE. AND I THINK WE'VE SEEN ON SOME DEVELOPMENTS, UH, FIRST FLOOR KIND OF FLEXIBLE, A LITTLE HIGHER CEILINGS AND MAYBE FLEX UNITS TO POTENTIALLY BE RETAIL IN THE FUTURE. YEAH. UM, IS THAT SOMETHING WE COULD PUT IN THE MIX WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DESIGN TO TOTALLY. THE WORK LIVE WOULD PROBABLY BE THE, THE BEST, YOU KNOW, PART OF THAT WHERE THERE'S 11 UNITS WHERE YOU'VE GOT THREE STORY TOWN HOMES, AND THE BOTTOM FLOOR WOULD BE EITHER RETAIL OR COMMERCIAL, SO OFFICE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. UM, AND WE, AND WE DID THAT INTENTIONALLY ON HIDALGO, SO IT'S MORE OF THE FRONTAGE OF, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE FORD FACING ROAD. UM, AND JUST SO I KNOW WHERE THAT'S DELINEATED, THAT'S NOT THE AMENITY IN RETAIL WE SHOW THERE IS THAT THAT'S OH, FITS. OH, OKAY. GOT IT. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. AND SO THOSE WOULD BE, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO DESCRIBE IT? IT WOULD BE CONVERTIBLE, SO THOSE WOULD BE CONVERT CONVERTIBLE TO A POTENTIAL CORNER STORE RETAIL USE, UH, IN THE FUTURE. DEF I THINK THE IDEA IS MORE OFFICE, BUT I THINK, I THINK WE, WE WOULD BE ON BOARD WITH RETAIL USES THERE. YEAH. YEAH. I, I, I REALLY LIKE THE FLEX SPACE IDEA, SO IT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT TO KIND OF MEET THE, THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY AND, UH, WHAT FOLKS ON THE, THE COMMITTEE WANNA SEE. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OH, OKAY. THAT CLOSES THIS ITEM. SORRY, CHAIR. WHAT, REALLY QUICKLY, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, UM, WE OBVIOUSLY JUST COLLECTED A LOT OF FEEDBACK. UM, I DON'T, I'M HOPING EMMANUEL IS STILL WITH US. EMMANUEL, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE, UM, YOU FEEL GOOD WITH THE, THE FEEDBACK YOU GOT FROM THE COMMITTEE, IF THERE ARE ANY, UH, REMAINING QUESTIONS YOU WANTED TO ADDRESS, OR IF IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO RUN THROUGH SOME OF THE, UM, SOME OF THE THEMES WE HEARD IN THE COMMENTS. UH, NO, [02:10:01] I, I APPRECIATE THAT. AND, UH, THANK YOU, UH, TO THE, TO THE COMMITTEE FOR YOUR THOUGHTFUL, UH, IN DETAILED, UH, REVIEW AND COMMENTS ON, ON, UH, ON THE PROPOSAL. UM, I, UH, TOOK MANY PAGES OF NOTES, UM, AND I'LL BE HAVING A DEBRIEF, UH, MEETING WITH, UH, THE APPLICANT'S TEAM. UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF, UH, THE APPLICANT TEAM WALKER OR, OR ANY OF YOUR, UH, TEAM MEMBERS HAVE ANY OUTSTANDING BURNING QUESTIONS. UH, I I GUESS THIS MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO, TO GET THOSE ANSWERED, BUT, UH, I, I THINK, UH, FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE, UH, THANK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR, UH, THE COMMITTEE'S, UH, TIME AND, AND REVIEW, UH, WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR. UH, I, I, I'VE RECEIVED, SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION. UM, AS IT RELATES TO THE TWO CAR GARAGES, I KNOW THERE WERE A LOT OF COMMENTS ABOUT THAT. SO WE HAVE, WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING WITH SOME FLOOR PLANS THAT WOULD BE, UM, LIKE A CONVERTIBLE JUNIOR, A D U ON THE BOTTOM FLOOR. SO WHERE YOU COULD HAVE EITHER A TWO CAR GARAGE OR A ONE CAR WITH AN A D U. UM, AND THE IDEA IS, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T EVEN USE THEIR CAR, THEIR GARAGES FOR CARS. A LOT OF TIMES IT'S STORAGE. UM, AND THAT, SO THAT'S VALUABLE FOR EITHER STORAGE OR A JUNIOR A D U. UM, AND SO I, I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT, AND I DON'T WANNA OPEN A CAN OF WORMS, BUT THE OPINIONS, UH, YOU KNOW, ABOUT AN A JUNIOR, A D U ON THE BOTTOM FLOOR. SO YOU WOULD SHOW A TWO CAR GARAGE WITH AN OPTION TO GO TO A A ONE CAR WITH A JUNIOR, A D U, AND IF THAT WOULD GENERALLY BE SUPPORTED, IT'D A YES OR NO WOULD BE A BETTER WAY TO ASK THAT, THAT THAT'S A, THAT'S GOOD INFORMATION. I, I THINK THAT'S A YES, . YEAH. I MEAN, MORE HOUSING IS GOOD. SO IF WE CAN INCREASE THE UNIT COUNT, GREAT. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR THIS PRESENTATION. SO NOW WE'RE MOVING TO THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN UPDATE FOR SEPTEMBER, 2023. UM, AND THIS IS BEING PRESENTED BY BJORN AND JEFF RUAL AGAIN. YES. THANK YOU. I'LL, UM, I WILL START OFF, UM, DOES, DOES ANY, DID THE, WOULD THE COMMITTEE LIKE A QUICK FIVE MINUTE BREAK THAT WAS A LONG ITEM, JUST WANNA FIGURE, I MIGHT AS WELL ASK BEFORE I JUMP IN. HAPPY TO JUMP IN UP TO YOU. I THINK WE'RE OKAY. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. I WILL, UH, SHARE MY SCREEN HERE. ALRIGHT. SO I'M GONNA KICK US OFF WITH A FEW UPDATES AND THEN PASS IT OVER TO JEFF. UM, LET'S SEE HERE. WHERE'S MY OUTLINE? SO WE'RE GOING TO, UH, JUST QUICKLY TOUCH ON THE COMMUNITY WORKSHOP. WE'RE PLANNING FOR SEPTEMBER 25TH, UM, CHAIR UPDATES, UM, FROM BOTH OF OUR AD HOC COMMITTEES AND, AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON SINCE OUR LAST MEETING. UM, AND THEN JEFF IS GOING TO WALK US THROUGH AN UPDATE ON THE, UM, PRIORITIZATION CRITERIA THAT WAS PREVENTED PRESENTED FOR YOUR FEEDBACK BACK IN MAY. UM, AND THEN ALSO TALK, UH, THROUGH A, A NEW ITEM, WHICH IS, UH, OUR PROPOSED APPROACH TO THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. UM, AND THEN JUST, UH, WRAP UP QUICKLY WITH OUR SCHEDULE. SO THE COMMUNITY WORKSHOP AS, UH, I THINK YOU ALL KNOW, UH, BY EMAIL, UH, WE ARE HOSTING ON MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 25TH, 6:00 PM AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER. UM, THAT WILL BE IT. IT'LL JUST INCLUDE SEVERAL STATIONS AND TABLES WHERE PEOPLE CAN ENGAGE WITH, UM, CITY STAFF, UH, FAIR AND PEERS AND YOU ALL ON, UH, SPECIFIC TOPICS. UM, THE PEOPLE CAN DROP IN AT ANY TIME, SO IT'S NOT LIKE YOU NEED TO BE THERE RIGHT AT 6:00 PM TO, UH, MEANINGFULLY PARTICIPATE. UM, SO WE'RE HOPING TO PROVIDE SOME FLEXIBILITY THAT PEOPLE CAN, UH, MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, ANTICIPATE TAKING 20, 30 MINUTES TO KIND OF WALK THROUGH AND, AND GIVE FEEDBACK AND THEN HOPEFULLY BE ON YOUR WAY AND GO ENJOY YOUR EVENING. UM, THANKS TO ALL OF YOU WHO HAVE, UH, OFFERED TO VOLUNTEER TO HELP THAT NIGHT. UM, I'VE HEARD FROM SEVERAL OF YOU, ANY OF YOU WHO WOULD LIKE TO HELP OUT, UM, ARE ARE STILL WELCOME TO DO SO. JUST SEND ME AN EMAIL SO I KNOW TO, UM, INCLUDE YOU ON OUR EMAILS. SO, UM, WE, I'VE MET SEVERAL TIMES WITH OUR, UH, OUR WONDERFUL, UM, VISION AND GOALS AD HOC COMMITTEE. UM, THAT'S KELLY, DARREN MARJA AND, UM, PETE GANG VOLUNTEERED FROM, FROM THE PUBLIC TO, UH, ASSIST US IN CRAFTING, UM, UH, A, A GOOD STRONG VISION STATEMENT AND, AND GOALS THAT, UH, YOU [02:15:01] KNOW, THAT PBA C UM, IS, UH, YOU KNOW, INVOLVED IN, IN SHAPING AND IS PROUD OF. UM, SO WE'VE ALSO, UH, AT PETE'S INTRODUC, OR AT PETE'S SUGGESTION, WE'VE ALSO ADDED A, UM, KIND OF A HIGHER LEVEL PLAN PURPOSE AND CONTEXT SECTION TO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, THE SCOPE OF THIS AD HOC COMMITTEE HAS, HAS KIND OF EXTENDED TO BASICALLY WRITING THE INTRODUCTION PARAGRAPH OR INTRODUCTION CHAPTER FOR THE PLAN, WHICH IS GREAT. UM, AND SO WHAT THAT, UH, WHAT THAT PLAN, PURPOSE AND CONTEXT, UH, SECTION SEEKS TO DO IS REALLY, UM, DEFINE THE ROLE OF THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN. UM, THAT'S SOMETHING WE TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT AT OUR LAST MEETING. UM, ITS RELATIONSHIP RELATIVE TO THE GENERAL PLAN IS ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT SINCE IT IS, UM, TECHNICALLY ADOPTED AS PART OF THE GENERAL PLAN. UM, BUT JUST KIND OF, UH, AND DRAWING THOSE CONNECTIONS BETWEEN THE, AT THE ACT OF TRANSPORTATION PLAN AND OTHER PLANNING DOCUMENTS. UM, AND ALSO, UH, HEAVILY REFERENCING THE IDEA THAT WHILE THIS PLAN IS FOCUSED JUST ON ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN, ON ON ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION, IT OBVIOUSLY THOSE THAT WORK, UH, SUPPORTS MUCH LARGER CITY GOALS AND POLICIES AND PLANS AROUND LAND USE AND MITIGATING CLIMATE CHANGE. UM, AND, YOU KNOW, IMPROVING THE, THE VIBRANCY, UH, OF THE, AND THE HEALTH OF THE COMMUNITY. SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THAT SECTION REALLY DRAWS ALL THOSE CONNECTIONS. UM, ALSO TOUCHING, OBVIOUSLY ON ALL OF THE BENEFITS OF ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION. AND THEN, UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'VE OF COURSE BEEN REVISING THE DRAFT VISION AND GOALS, SO HAPPY TO SHARE WITH YOU THE CURRENT DRAFT VISION STATEMENT. UM, AND, UH, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE, UH, WELL, I'M, I'M SURE WE CAN HAPPY TO TAKE FEEDBACK ON THIS TONIGHT. BUT, UM, UH, JUST WANTED TO SHARE THIS AS A SORT OF A STATUS UPDATE. UM, SO WHAT WE'VE INCORPORATED HERE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT IS MORE ASPIRATIONAL THAN WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY SHOWN, UM, SOMETHING THAT REALLY, UM, TRIES TO, UM, DESCRIBE, UH, YOU KNOW, PE IF, IF WE ARE SUCCESSFUL IN BUILDING OUT EVERY PROJECT AND IMPLEMENTING EVERY PROGRAM IN THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN, WHAT WILL PETALUMA LOOK LIKE IN 20 YEARS? UM, AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THIS STATEMENT IS, IS SEEKING TO DO. AND I SHOULD ACTUALLY, UM, GIVE, WELL, I'LL, I'LL GO THROUGH THE GOALS AND THEN I'LL, I'LL, UM, MAYBE PASS THE MIC OVER TO OUR, OUR AD HOC MEMBERS IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO SHARE ANY, UM, ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS. SO THEN THE DRAFT GOALS, UM, WE PREVIOUSLY HAD THREE DRAFT GOALS. WE NOW ACTUALLY HAVE FOUR. UM, SO THE THREE PREVIOUSLY SHOWN ARE, ARE LARGELY UNCHANGED. UM, WE STILL HAVE THE VISION ZERO GOAL. UM, WE'VE STILL GOT A GOAL AROUND, UH, BUILDING OUT THE, THE SAFE, SEAMLESS NETWORK. UM, AND THEN WE'VE ADDED, UH, GOAL NUMBER THREE IS OUR NEW GOAL. UH, WHAT THAT SEEKS TO DO IS REALLY, UM, ADDRESS THE IDEA THAT WE'RE NOT JUST BUILDING CONNECTIONS, BUT THE CONNECTIONS WE ARE BUILDING ARE WELL MAINTAINED, BEAUTIFUL, INVITING, COMFORTABLE. UM, SO GETTING MORE TO THE, UM, UH, KIND OF THE, THE AMENITIES THAT WE'RE PROVIDING. UM, THE, THE IDEA THAT, YOU KNOW, STREET TREES ARE, UH, IMPROVED WALKABILITY, UM, TRYING TO REALLY ADDRESS THE, THE PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS OF THE, OF THE PUBLIC REALM. UM, AND THEN GOAL FOUR, THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, UNCHANGED. THAT'S THE, UH, THAT'S EVERYTHING ELSE, KIND OF THE CATCHALL FOR, UM, ALL THE OTHER WAYS WE PROMOTE AND SUPPORT ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION THROUGH EDUCATION AND ENCOURAGEMENT ACTIVITIES. UM, SO I'LL PAUSE THERE IF ANYONE FROM THAT AD HOC COMMITTEE WOULD LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING. UM, AND, UH, AND I'LL ACTUALLY EVEN OPEN IT UP IF THE COMMITTEE WANTS TO, UH, CHIME IN ON ANY OR ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THESE. GO AHEAD, KELLY. I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT WE KINDA STOPPED SHORT ON THE FOURTH ONE AND ARE OPEN TO, WE TALKED ABOUT MAYBE GIVING SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT DOES ENCOURAGEMENT MEAN, AND WE JUST DIDN'T REALLY GET, UH, TO FINISH COMPLETING THAT ONE. SO WE'RE OPEN TO, I MEAN, FEEDBACK ON ALL OF THEM, BUT IN PARTICULAR, I THINK THAT ONE, AND WHAT ARE, AND I'M ALSO CURIOUS WHAT, UH, THE REST OF THE COMMITTEE THINKS ABOUT THE FOUR GOAL AREAS. DOES IT FEEL, UM, IS, IS ARE WE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION WITH THIS NEW GOAL THAT NOW ADDRESSES SOMETHING THAT, THAT WASN'T THERE BEFORE, WHICH IS REALLY KIND OF THE, [02:20:01] THE, THE MAINTENANCE AND, UH, AND THE BEAUTY OF OUR, OF OUR STREETS? , RE REALLY QUICK MI I'LL JUST CALL OUT THE CONTEXT PIECE YOU MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING. YEAH, IT WAS TOTALLY OUTTA SCOPE FOR WHAT WE WERE DOING, BUT IT REALLY IS A REALLY STRONG PIECE THAT SETS WHAT THE PLAN IS AND HOW IT RELATES TO TRANSIT. AND WE CALL OUT ALL THOSE CONNECTIONS. IT WAS, I THINK WE ACTUALLY GOT TO THE MEAT OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I BROUGHT UP, UH, AT OUR LAST MEETING WHEN I SAID WE SHOULD FORM AN AD HOC. THAT CONTEXT PIECE REALLY HITS ON A LOT OF THOSE IN A GREAT WAY. AND IT ALSO HAS SOME GUIDING PRINCIPLES, I THINK, FOR HOW WE SEE ACTIVE TRANSPORT IN THE CITY. YOU KNOW, THIS IS ONE OF THE FEW WRITTEN DOCUMENTS THAT'S GONNA GET TO THE, THE ETHOS OF ACTIVE TRANSPORT. SO I THINK IT LAYS OUT SOME, SOME REALLY GREAT PRINCIPLES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. UH, AND YEAH, AND THEN I THINK ADDING THAT ITEM ABOUT KIND OF THE AESTHETICS AND UTILITY OF THIS, OF THE TRAIL NETWORK, UH, ALSO HIT ON THAT. SO, UH, YEAH, I'M REALLY CURIOUS TO HEAR WHAT THE REST OF THE COMMITTEE THINKS. ALSO SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN NOODLE ON AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA BRING THIS BACK EACH MONTH WITH AN UPDATE AND, UM, SO NO, NO NEED TO. I WAS GONNA SAY WE'RE NOT DONE YET. YEAH. . I KNOW. , YEAH, THIS WAS REALLY JUST A STATUS UPDATE. I WOULD, I WILL ADD THAT I, UM, I JUST REALLY LIKE HOW THIS FEELS LIKE, THIS FEELS LIKE A REALLY GOOD MOMENTUM. THIS IS MUCH, MUCH BETTER LIKE VISION THAN WHERE WE, WHAT WE HAD STARTED WITH. AND I FEEL LIKE IT'S, IT'S HITTING THE MOST IMPORTANT PARTS IN A PRIORITIZED WAY. UM, AND I LIKE NORMALIZE AND CELEBRATE. IT FEELS LIKE PETALUMA TO ME. LIKE, IT, IT SORT OF LIKE WHAT WE, THE TYPE OF LIKE EDGE AND KIND OF, I FEEL LIKE PE PETALUMA'S A CELEBRATORY TOWN AND I LIKE THAT THAT'S A PART OF IT TOO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS. I, I'D SAY THAT I THINK IT'S ON THE RIGHT PATH. AGREED. I REALLY LIKE THE NEW GOAL. I THINK IT'S A BIG PART OF SELLING CHANGES TO THE COMMUNITY IS, IS BEAUTIFYING THEIR, UH, THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. UM, AND THEN ON, ON THE VISION, THE, MY ONE THOUGHT WAS MAYBE CHANGE IT FROM EMPOWERED TO, TO EXCITED TO, UM, LAST, LAST SENTENCE OR LAST LINE. FEEL EXCITED TO USE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION. I ALSO LIKE HOW ASPIRATIONAL IT'S, UM, SOUNDING NOW. I THINK IT DOES REFLECT THE COMMUNITY BETTER. IT'S UH, UM, IT'S, IT'S NOT A STERILE KIND OF A STATEMENT ANY LONGER. IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S GOT A LITTLE LIFE TO IT AND I THINK THAT REFLECTS, UH, WHAT WE'RE AIMING TOWARDS. SO I THINK IT'S, UH, A GREAT STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. YEAH, VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT. ALSO, UM, I THINK THE, NOT SURE WHERE IT FITS, BUT I WANT TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THE CASE OR MAKE THE POINT THAT IT'S, UM, IT'S COST SAVING BY BIKING TO GET YOUR GROCERIES RATHER THAN DRIVING. AND THE EQUITY FACTOR, YEAH, THE EQUITY FACTOR, BUT THE ECONOMIC JUST FRUGALITY, I DON'T KNOWS SOMETHING THAT TO KIND OF GET TO THE POINT. AND SO MOTIVATION THAT I HAVE, UM, OF JUST, YOU KNOW, LIMITING OUR FAMILY TO ONE CAR AND TRYING TO GET AS MUCH DONE. SO SOMEHOW KIND OF INTEGRATING THAT AND COULD BE, I THINK, HELPFUL. UM, AND MAYBE CLIMATE FRIENDLY. YEAH, THAT'S A SEPARATE TRACK I THINK. SORRY. YEAH, BUT NO WORRIES. THAT'S, YEAH. PUT TO THE SAME POINT. IT'S, IT'S, THERE'S, THERE'S OTHER BENEFITS THAT COME FROM, FROM HAVING THIS WORLD CLASS ACTIVE LIVING CITY. I'M GLAD IT'S JUST, IT'S HELPFUL CONCEPT TO SAY THAT WAS IN THE FUTURE . IT'S LIKE, UH, IT'S VERY ASPIRATIONAL. I DEFINITELY WANT TO GET THERE WHERE WE'RE KNOWN FOR OTHER THINGS BESIDES JUST BANNING GAS STATIONS. SO, UM, YEAH, EXCITED TO GET THERE. PRN. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA MENTION, AND I'M, I'M STRUGGLING TO REMEMBER WHAT THE TITLE WAS, BUT WE BULLETED OUT AND WE TALKED ABOUT COST SAVINGS, YOU TALKED ABOUT PHYSICAL HEALTH, MENTAL HEALTH, WE TALKED ABOUT ALL THOSE BENEFITS THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE INTRODUCTORY. UM, SO THERE'S JUST A LOT OF STUFF WE WORKED ON THAT ISN'T HERE TOO, BUT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WAS GONNA BE INCLUDED, RIGHT? YEAH, YEAH. SORT OF A, A SECTION WITH THE, OR A A YEAH. WITH THE BENEFITS OF ALL THE DIFFERENT BENEFITS OF ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION. YEAH. YEP. [02:25:04] NOT NECESSARILY, UM, CALLED OUT IN THE VISION STATEMENT THOUGH. THERE'S A LOT. I MEAN, THERE ARE SO MANY BENEFITS, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M LOOKING AT THE AD HOC COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND WE CAN CERTAINLY TAKE THIS BACK. YOU KNOW, I'VE HEARD THE TWO THINGS THAT WE'RE, WE DON'T HAVE IN THERE ARE CLIMATE AND SORT OF THE, OR OR FINANCIAL SIDE OF, OF, UM, WALKING, BIKING. SO IS IT POSSIBLE TO SHARE TOO WHAT THE OTHER STUFF IS JUST THAT WE'VE, THAT WE'VE CREATED IN DRAFT TO SEE IF YEAH. COMMITTEE MEMBERS THINK THAT MIGHT ADDRESS, I MEAN, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO ADDING MORE TO THE VISION STATEMENT, BUT YEAH, LET'S SEE. WE HAVE, UM, SO IN THE BENEFITS, UH, OH, I DON'T HAVE IT UPRIGHT IN FRONT OF ME RIGHT NOW, BUT I'M IN AN EMAIL. THAT'S FINE. THAT'S OKAY. OFF THE OKAY. YEAH, YEAH. BY EMAIL. YES, WE CAN DO THAT. YEP. YEAH, AND I THINK THOSE DISCUSSIONS ARE GONNA BE ONGOING. 'CAUSE WE DID THE SAME THING. LIKE I WANTED A LOT OF THINGS IN OUR GOALS, UH, BUT THEN IT'S TRYING TO SEPARATE KIND OF GOALS AND SOME OF THESE OTHER WHERE, WHEREAS GOALS ARE SOMETHING THAT WILL HAVE VERY TANGIBLE MEASURABLES THAT WE'LL BE LOOKING FOR POLICY-WISE. LIKE, WILL WE ACHIEVE CERTAIN PERCENTAGES OR CERTAIN, HOW WILL WE MEASURE OUR PROGRESS TOWARDS IT? UH, AND SO THINGS THAT WE THOUGHT WERE, YOU KNOW, MASSIVE BENEFITS OR ADVANTAGES THAT DIDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE A TANGIBLE SET OF GOALS, WE KIND OF MADE THESE SECTIONS TO KIND OF FIT THOSE IN THERE, CALL THEM OUT, AND THEN FOCUS IN ON THINGS WE CAN, WE CAN REALLY MEASURE EFFECTIVELY. BUT YEAH, I THINK THIS IS REALLY GOOD FEEDBACK FOR US TO KIND OF KEEP THINKING ABOUT THAT AND KIND OF HOW TO ORGANIZE THOSE. OKAY. GREAT. I'LL, OH, SORRY. COMMITTEE MEMBER GARCIA . UH, NOW WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR OTHER INSPIRATION ONLINE FOR HOW TO GENERATE SOME, UM, POTENTIAL IDEAS FOR GOAL SETTINGS. WE ARE JUST LOOKING AT, UM, CHAT G P T AS MAYBE ANOTHER WAY TO LOOK INTO SOME IDEAS. THAT'S ALL. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I HAVE USED YET, BUT, UH, IF YOU'RE SUGGESTING THAT WE SHOULD WRITE OUR VISION STATEMENT USING CHAT, G B T DON'T MAKE US ALL SUPERFLUOUS. NO, I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT FOR THE, IT'S ALREADY, IT'S ALREADY DONE. , MAYBE YOU CAN SHARE THAT WITH ME, WHATEVER, WITH OR WITH US, UH, WHATEVER IT IS THAT THAT AI CAME UP FOR, CAME UP WITH FOR US. UM, ALRIGHT. I, I WILL MOVE ON TO OUR, UM, OTHER AD HOC COMMITTEE THAT, UH, WORKING ON THE PROJECT MAP. THAT'S PAMELA, NICOLE, AND ADAM. UM, AND ADMITTEDLY I HAVEN'T HAD MUCH FOR THEM TO DO YET BECAUSE, UM, WE'RE STILL SORTING THROUGH THE 350 COMMENTS THAT WERE RECEIVED THROUGH SOCIAL PINPOINT. UM, AND, UM, WORKING TO INCORPORATE ALL OF THAT FEEDBACK AS WE REVISE THE MAP, UH, FOR THE SEPTEMBER 25TH WORKSHOP. UM, SOME OF THE THINGS WE HAVE DISCUSSED AS A GROUP THOUGH, UM, SO THEY WILL, UH, WE, WE WILL, I WILL LOOP THEM IN TO REVIEW THAT MAP BEFORE, UM, BEFORE IT'S FINALIZED, MAKE SURE THAT THEY FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, SHOWING, DOCUMENTING ALL OF THE FEEDBACK THAT HAS BEEN INCORPORATED AND CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN INCORPORATED. AND THEN WE TALKED ABOUT HOW TO SIMPLIFY THE MAP, UM, SO THAT IT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, UH, JUST EASIER TO UNDERSTAND AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON. UM, WE GOT A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF GREAT FEEDBACK ON THE, THE MAP, THE SOCIAL PINPOINT MAP. SO WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO DO IS AT, AT THAT SEPTEMBER 25TH WORKSHOP ONLY SHOW OUR PROPOSED NETWORK AT FULL BUILD OUT. SO NOT EXPECTING MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE AND PROPOSED INFRASTRUCTURE. IT'S JUST ONE SNAPSHOT. THE YEAR IS 2050. WE'VE BUILT EVERYTHING, HERE'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, GET CONSENSUS ON THAT VISION FOR OUR NETWORK. AND THEN WE CAN, YOU KNOW, WORK, UH, KIND OF GO BACKWARDS FROM THAT AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THE ACTUAL PROJECTS ARE. UM, AND THEN ALSO SIMPLIFYING THE BIKEWAY CLASSIFICATIONS, UM, AND, AND REALLY ONLY SHOWING THREE CATEGORIES. UM, OUR ON STREET BIKE FACILITIES. SO THAT WOULD INCLUDE BIKE LANES, PROTECTED BIKE LANES, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD GREENWAYS. SO THOSE ARE, YOU KNOW, SHARED, UH, SHARED LANES ON, ON CALMER, SLOWER STREETS, AND THEN MULTI-USE TRAILS. UM, THE REASON THAT I'M SUGGESTING WE ONLY SHOW ONE TYPE OF, UM, FACILITY FOR ON-STREET BIKE LANES IS BECAUSE OUR, OUR GOAL WITH THIS PLAN, IT'S VERY CLEAR, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE FEEDBACK WE RECEIVE THROUGH SOCIAL PINPOINT WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM P A C, UM, JUST THE, THE DIRECTION WITH BEST PRACTICES THAT, UM, IF WE'RE GOING TO BE IMPLEMENTING [02:30:01] BIKEWAYS, THEY NEED TO, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE THEM, UM, SAFE AND ACCOMMODATING FOR PEOPLE OF ALL AGES AND ABILITIES. SO CLEARLY OUTLINING THAT IN THE PLAN AS WELL, THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE ARE CERTAIN THRESHOLDS FOR VEHICLE TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF VOLUME AND SPEED THAT WOULD NECESSITATE AN ON-STREET PROTECTED BIKE LANE, FOR EXAMPLE. UM, SO AGAIN, NOT, UM, PUTTING THE, THE BURDEN ON THE PUBLIC TO UH, SAY, OH NO, THIS STREET NEEDS A PROTECTED BIKE LANE. THIS STREET, UH, YOU KNOW, NEEDS A BUFFERED BIKE LANE. UM, JUST SHOWING THAT AS ONE LINE TYPE AND THEN AGAIN, WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT, UM, AS PART OF THE FRAMEWORK OF THE PLAN THAT WE WOULD BE SEEKING TO IMPLEMENT ALL AGES AND ABILITIES, BIKE WAYS, UM, EVERYWHERE. UM, SO THOSE WERE, YEAH, THOSE WERE KIND OF THE, THAT'S THE, THE QUICK UPDATE ON THE MAP. NOT SURE IF, UM, FOR OUR AD HOC FOLKS, ANYTHING ELSE TO CAPTURE OR FROM THE REST OF THE COMMITTEE. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THAT? I THINK COULD YOU JUST CLARIFY, UM, THIS IS SUPER BIKE CENTRIC BECAUSE THAT'S, IT'S EASIER FOR US TO DO CONNECT LIKE THE PEDESTRIAN GAPS, RIGHT? AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT WE REALLY NEEDED TO FOCUS THIS PART ON, ON THE BIKE NETWORK, RIGHT? NO, WE, WE WILL HAVE, THERE ARE PEDESTRIAN COMPONENTS AS WELL. UM, YEAH, THE, THE BIKE, THAT EXERCISE OF MAPPING OUT THE BIKE NETWORK IS MUCH MORE INVOLVED BECAUSE, UM, THERE ARE JUST, THERE ARE MORE DESIGN CONSIDERATIONS WITH, WITH A BIKE NETWORK THAN THERE ARE WITH A PEDESTRIAN NETWORK. UM, SO, UH, BUT NO, WE WILL STILL HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'LL IDENTIFY INTERSECTIONS WHERE, UH, CROSSING IMPROVEMENTS ARE NEEDED OR OTHER IMPROVEMENTS ARE NEEDED. UM, OBVIOUSLY THE MULTI-USE TRAIL SYSTEM, THAT'S ALL PEDESTRIAN INFRASTRUCTURE AS WELL. WE DO HAVE, UH, A MAP OF SIDEWALK GAPS THAT FAIR AND PEERS PREPARED. UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN, UH, BRING TO THE WORKSHOP FOR INPUT IS WE'RE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, WELL IDENTIFY ANY GAPS THAT WE'RE MISSING. 'CAUSE OBVI, IT'S VERY, IT'S WELL WITHIN THE REALM OF POSSIBILITY THAT IN A STREET, A CITY WITH 400 MILES OF STREETS THAT WE MAY HAVE MISSED A FEW SIDEWALK GAPS. UM, SO THAT'S ONE, ONE THING WE'LL WANT TO GET OUT OF IT. BUT ALSO UNDERSTANDING, YOU KNOW, PRIORITIES FROM PEOPLE, UM, FOR, FOR THOSE SIDEWALK GAPS OR, OR EVEN JUST IDENTIFY, THERE WERE A LOT OF COMMENTS ON THE SOCIAL PINPOINT, UM, AROUND CROSSWALKS, EITHER CREATING NEW CROSSWALKS OR IMPROVING EXISTING CROSSWALKS. SO, UM, THAT'S ALL DEFINITELY IMPORTANT. BUT AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, WHEN, YEAH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, LIKE WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT WE HAD ON SOCIAL PINPOINT, WHAT REALLY JUMPS OUT IS THE BIKE NETWORK. AND, AND THAT'S, UM, THAT IS A YES, A VERY INVOLVED MAPPING EXERCISE THAT WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF , EVERYONE FEEL GOOD ABOUT THE KIND OF, THE CHANGE IN, UH, THE MAP SYMBOLOGY. UM, DOES THAT FEEL EASIER TO GRASP? YEAH. AWESOME. UM, SO NEXT UP, JUST WANNA QUICKLY PIVOT TO THE, UH, PRIORITIZATION CONVERSATION. YOU MAY RECALL THAT WE HAD ALLISON FROM FAIR AND PEERS COME IN MAY, UM, AND PRESENT ON SOME, SOME POSSIBLE, UM, SCORING CRITERIA THAT WOULD BE USED. UH, BASICALLY WE WOULD ATTACH, UM, DATA TO EACH OF THE PRO PROPOSED PROJECTS IN THE PLAN. AND THEN, UM, THIS CRITERIA WOULD FORM THE, THE BASIS FOR HOW THOSE PROJECTS ARE RANKED AND PRIORITIZED. UM, THE, THE AREAS THAT ALLISON PRESENTED AT THAT MEETING WERE EQUITY CONNECTIVITY AND ACCESSIBILITY, SAFETY, UH, AND SAFETY. AND THEN, UM, THE, UH, SHE HAD AN EXPLANATION FOR SORT OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND SUSTAINABILITY PIECE. UM, JUST THAT, THAT'S EMBEDDED WITHIN ALL THE PROJECTS INHERENTLY BECAUSE, UM, OF THE, THE VEHICLE MALS TRAVELED, UM, OR THE REDUCTION IN, IN GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS FROM TRANSPORTATION ASSOCIATED WITH INCREASED WALKING AND BIKING. UM, SO THE FEEDBACK, THIS IS JUST A, A HIGH LEVEL SUMMARY OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT FROM YOU ALL AT THAT MEETING. UH, WE HEARD OVERALL SUPPORT FOR THOSE CATEGORIES OF, UM, EQUITY CONNECTIVITY AND SAFETY. UH, DEF THERE WAS A CONCERN FROM THE, OR NOT A CONCERN, BUT, UM, A DESIRE FROM THE COMMITTEE TO SEE GEOGRAPHIC EQUITY INCORPORATED TO ENSURE THAT, UM, ALL OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE, UH, ADEQUATE [02:35:01] WALKING AND BIKING CONNECTIONS. THAT'S SOMETHING REALLY THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY ADDRESS MORE IN THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, UM, WHERE WE COULD, UM, YOU KNOW, WE COULD USE COUNCIL DISTRICTS FOR EXAMPLE, AND WE COULD PULL OUT THE TOP SCORING PROJECTS FOR EACH OF THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS OR FIGURE OUT SOME OTHER, UM, WAYS TO, TO SHOW, UH, THAT, THAT COVERAGE AND DISTRIBUTION OF PROJECTS. UM, THERE WAS ALSO, THERE WERE A LOT OF COMMENTS, UM, AROUND FIGURING OUT HOW TO INCORPORATE DELIVERY METHOD. YOU KNOW, JUST THE IDEA THAT, UM, IT'S, UH, THAT SOME PROJECTS MAYBE SHOULD BE, BE PRIORITIZED IF THEY'RE EASIER TO IMPLEMENT, UM, BECAUSE WE CAN GET MORE DONE WITH, WITH LESS MONEY AND IN LESS TIME AND, AND MAKE MORE PROGRESS TOWARDS BUILDING OUT OUR NETWORK. UM, THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT JEFF WILL TOUCH ON IN THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. AND THEN WE ALSO HEARD, YOU KNOW, ONE PIECE THAT WAS REALLY MISSING FROM THE, UM, FROM THE SCORING CRITERIA WAS, UM, WAS PUBLIC FEEDBACK. UM, THERE WAS REALLY NO, IF YOU GO BACK HERE, THERE'S REALLY NO INPUT THERE FOR PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED BY P A C OR OUR LOCAL ROAD SAFETY PLAN OR OTHER, UH, COMMUNITY GROUPS AS PRIORITY PROJECTS. SO WE WANTED TO, UM, INCORPORATE THAT AS WELL. SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO PASS IT OVER TO JEFF. HE'S GONNA TAKE IT FROM HERE AND TALK THROUGH THE, UH, LATEST REVISION TO THE CRITERIA. THANKS. UH, YEAH, I'D TELL YOU GOOD, GOOD SETUP THERE. SO THIS, THIS IS INTENDED TO SHOW THE CATEGORIES, THE METRICS WITH WHICH WE CAN REALLY EASILY QUANTIFY BASED ON HOW WE'VE MAPPED EVERYTHING, AND THEN KIND OF TALK THROUGH THE PROCESS OF HOW THE QUANTIFIABLE METRICS THAT TURN INTO PRIORITIZATION AND, AND WAITING TO ACTUALLY DETERMINE THAT PRIORITIZED LIST. AND ALSO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN APPROACH. UM, HOPEFULLY HOPE TO GET FEEDBACK ON BOTH PIECES, UM, SEPARATE, BUT IN THE WHOLE, THE PICTURE OF THEY KIND OF HAPPEN IN SEQUENCE. UM, SO WE, WE'VE BROKE THE, THE PROPOSED, UH, PRIORITIZATION CRITERIA, UH, FACTORS OR CATEGORIES THAT, THAT ARE, ARE SIMILAR TO WHAT, UM, WERE PRESENTED LAST TIME OR DISCUSSED EQUITY, COMMUNITY SUPPORT, UH, SAFETY CONNECTIVITY AND PROXIMITY TO THINGS THAT WE WANT TO BE, TO BE, THAT WE WANT TO PRIORITIZE, UM, WHETHER THEY'RE PROXIES FOR DENSIFICATION OR SPECIFIC PLACES LIKE COMMUNITY CENTER SCHOOLS, ET CETERA. UM, IN TRANSIT NEXT, NEXT ADVANCE. SO THE, SOME OF THE, THE, THE RELATIVELY EASY ELEMENTS, UM, THAT CAN QUANTIFY, UH, FACTORS FOR THE, FOR, FOR THESE FACT FOR, TO QUANTIFY THESE FACTORS INCLUDE DETAILS LIKE FOR EQUITY, LOOKING AT THE MAPPING OF THE DISADVANTAGED, UH, COMMUNITIES, UH, MAPPING FROM, AS PART OF THE GENERAL PLAN EFFORT. THAT'S, UH, INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE. AND IT'S A VERY, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE ADDITIONAL WORK, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF IF IT IS OR IT ISN'T IN THAT AREA, IN THOSE AREAS, UH, COMMUNITY, UH, SUPPORT IT'S EVIDENCE OF, OF PUBLIC SUPPORT, UH, THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING WE, WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS ON. BUT THAT COULD BE ACTUAL COMMENTS IN THE A T P PROCESS. IT COULD BE COMMENTS RECEIVED AND AND DOCUMENTED AS PART OF THE LOCAL ROAD SAFETY PLAN, THE GENERAL PLAN, AND ANY OTHER PAST PRESENT OR FUTURE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, UM, PLATFORMS. UM, THE INTENT IS THAT THE, THAT THIS IS KIND OF A LIVING DOCUMENT. SO AS THINGS AS, AS AS DIFFERENT IDEAS OR OR, OR PROJECTS OR COMMUNITY SUPPORT IS PROVIDED, THERE'S A MECHANISM WITH WHICH THAT'S COLLECTED AND, AND THEN FEEDS INTO THE EVER-CHANGING PRIORITIZATION BASED ON VARIETY OF FACTORS, SAFETY. SOME OF THOSE ELEMENTS ARE SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT THE HIGH INJURY NETWORK AND WHICH IS THE, THE MAPS THAT WE DEVELOPED AS PART OF THE, THE, THE BASELINE, UM, EXISTING CONDITIONS PIECE. UH, WHETHER THEY ARE ON THE HIGH INJURY NETWORK OR IF THEY CROSS THE HIGH INJURY NETWORK AND MAYBE WAITING THINGS SEPARATELY BASED ON, UH, WHETHER IT'S ON OR CONNECTED TO KIND OF FEEDING TOWARDS KIND OF A SAFER, MORE CONNECTED NETWORK. CONNECTIVITY IS IS ANOTHER PIECE OF, WE'RE LOOKING WHERE THERE ARE GAPS OR BARRIERS AND WHAT, WHAT PROJECTS ACTUALLY SEEK TO, TO BREAK DOWN THOSE BARRIERS OR, OR CLOSE THOSE GAPS. UM, A LOT OF THE INTERSECTIONS THAT HAVE KIND OF LESS THAN IDEAL OR LESS THAN SAFE OR LESS THAN COMFORTABLE BIKE AND PED CONNECTIONS ARE A GOOD, UH, EXAMPLE FOR THOSE WOULD, WOULD BE SCORED ON THAT, ON THOSE PIECES. UM, LOOKING AT THE L T SS MAPS, THE LEVEL OF TRAFFIC STRESS MAPS AND WHERE THERE ARE LEVEL, LEVEL OF TRAFFIC STRESS OF THREES AND FOURS WITHOUT PARALLEL ROUTES THAT ARE, UH, BETTER AND MORE COMFORTABLE, WHICH ARE LEVEL SERVICE, LEVEL OF TRAFFIC, STRESS, ONE AND TWO, UM, AND, AND WAITING THOSE THAT WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE A BENEFIT TO THAT TOWARDS THAT LOW STRESS NETWORK. AND THEN, THEN LOOKING AT ACTUALLY THE PROXIMITY TO, TO PLACES OF INTEREST SCHOOLS, UH, COMMUNITY CENTERS, UM, WHETHER IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, RETAIL, COMMERCIAL OR OTHER LAND USES, YOU KNOW, LOCAL AND REGIONAL SERVING RETAIL OR TRANSIT, UM, CENTERS AND BUS STOPS AND ACTUALLY BEING ABLE TO POTENTIALLY, WE HAVE, WE HAVE A LOT OF THAT MAPPED, SO WE CAN ACTUALLY WAIT IT RELATIVELY, UH, RELATIVELY EASILY. UM, AND THEN, UM, NEXT, NEXT SLIDE, KIND OF THE MISSING PIECES, WHICH WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO TALK THROUGH TONIGHT, BUT THAT WE WILL HAVE THAT CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT IS HOW DO WE ASSIGN POINTS TO ALL OF [02:40:01] THESE THINGS AND THE WEIGHT OF THOSE POINTS. SO IT'S BASICALLY, IS IT, IS IT A YES NO, IS IT A ONE THROUGH FIVE? THERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT WAYS OF DOING IT. AND THEN HOW MUCH DOES THAT EACH THING WEIGHT WEIGHT, THE OVERALL SCORE OF A PROJECT? UM, AT THE, AT THE ONSET, OUR, OUR PER OUR APPROACH WAS TO ACTUALLY HAVE THE, THE WEIGHT BE ADJUSTABLE. SO GIVE STAFF THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A A POINT, AND IF THERE'S A GRANT OPPORTUNITY TO THAT PRIORITIZES, YOU KNOW, BIKE AND PED CROSSINGS WITHIN 500 FEET OF SCHOOLS, THAT THE WEIGHT FOR THE THINGS THAT ARE PROXY FOR THAT CAN BE ADJUSTED REPRIORITIZED. AND THEN THE, THE STAFF IS MORE READILY AVAILABLE TO, TO SEEK THAT FUNDING AS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW THAT'S KIND OF ADJUSTABLE OVER TIME. UM, BUT THE POINTS, WHETHER YOU'RE, YOU'RE WITHIN THAT, THAT PROXIMITY TO A SCHOOL OR NOT IS KNOWN. SO IT'S KIND OF THE FINITE PIECE, UM, OR SOMETHING THAT CAN BE, UH, QUANTIFIABLE. SO, SO THAT'S KIND OF GENERALLY THE, THAT'S THE KIND OF PROPOSED PRIORITIZATION IN CATEGORIES. UM, IT'S NOT THAT THAT WE CAN ADD MORE, BUT BY ADDING MORE, IT'S JUST GONNA MAKE IT MORE COMPLEX AND DILUTE SOME OF THE, THE, THE REALLY EASY, EASILY QUANTIFIABLE METRICS THAT SPEAK TO A LOT OF THE, THE OBJECTIVES THAT WE'VE TALKED THROUGH. UM, DID YOU WANNA STOP HERE AND TALK THROUGH THIS OR MOVE INTO THE IMPLEMENTATION? YEAH, IT MIGHT BE EASIER TO JUST, UM, PAUSE FOR SOME QUESTIONS AND FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMITTEE. YEAH. DOING IT KIND OF UNCONVENTIONALLY, BUT THAT'S, 'CAUSE WE'VE GOT A LOT OF DIFFERENT SECTIONS TO THIS. SO, UH, MAYBE I'LL JUMP IN REAL QUICK. SO JUST TO CLARIFY, UH, THE, FOR THE SAFETY ACTS ASPECT, UM, ALONG THE HIGH INJURY NETWORK THAT'S, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE DISTINCTION. IF, UM, THERE WAS A PROCESS DONE BY THE CITY VERSUS THE S SON, COUNTY'S VISION ZERO, HIGH INJURY NETWORK, HIGH INJURY INTERSECTIONS, AND JUST UNDERSTANDING HOW THOSE INTERRELATE. YEAH, SO S C T A HAD HAD A COUNTYWIDE HIGH INJURY NETWORK THAT INCLUDED CORRIDORS AND STREETS OR OUR INTERSECTIONS. UM, WE USED THAT AS ONE OF THE INPUTS AS KIND OF A BASE THE BASIS FOR WHAT WE DID, WHICH IS WE LOOKED AT ADDITIONALLY LOOKED AT ALL THE, THE SPECIFIC DOCUMENTED CRASHES WITHIN THE CITY, THEN APPLIED A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A QUALITATIVE APPROACH ON UNDERSTANDING WHERE THOSE, WHERE THE, WHERE THE GAPS IN THE, IN THE, UH, COUNTY'S HIGH INJURY NETWORK ARE. BUT IN REALITY IT'S A CONTINUOUS HIGH INJURY NETWORK. SO IF, IF ANYTHING IT WAS MORE OF A, A FINE TUNED, UM, SENSITIVITY TO IDENTIFYING A LONGER CONTINUOUS STRETCH OF ROADWAY TO BE PART OF THE HIGH INJURY CO LIKE TO BE PART OF A HIGH INJURY CORRIDOR. UH, IT'S A LOT OF THE SAME DATA THAT THE COUNTY USED, UH, WITH A LITTLE BIT, UM, A LITTLE MORE RECENT 'CAUSE WE, THIS WAS AFTER THAT, BUT, UM, THE, I THINK THE BIGGEST THING THAT COMES TO MIND IS I BELIEVE THERE WAS A COUPLE BLOCKS OF D STREET THAT WEREN'T IDENTIFIED ON THE COUNTYWIDE, BUT WE KNOW KNOWING THE HISTORY OF, OF, OF CRASHES AND THE, THE, THE SENTIMENT OF IT NOT BEING A VERY COMFORTABLE OR SAFE PLACE FOR, FOR PEOPLE TO WALK OR BIKE, WE KIND OF TWEAK THE SENSITIVITY SO THAT IT WAS PART OF THE HIGH INJURY NETWORK. SO IT'S PRIORITIZED FOR SAFETY. OKAY, GREAT. THAT MIGHT BE THE STREET THAT I LIVE ON, SO THAT'S, UH, VERY HELPFUL. UM, AND THEN THE, THE OTHER QUESTION I GUESS WAS MAYBE JUST AN IDEA FOR A SUGGESTION AROUND SCORING FOR CONNECTIVITY, UM, OF JUST THINKING ABOUT OF, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU ADD IN THIS GAP CLOSURE, WHAT IS THEN THE NEW KIND OF TOTAL CONTINUOUS, UM, MILEAGE THAT YOU'RE NOW COMPLETING, FOR INSTANCE? UM, JUST, I KNOW YOU'RE GONNA BE BRAINSTORMING ALL OF THOSE, BUT JUST TO THROW THAT IN THE MIX, THAT, THAT'S ACTUALLY THE TRA TRAVEL SHED ANALYSIS IS ONE WAY WE'VE DESCRIBED THAT. UM, WE DID THAT AS PART OF THE CROSSTOWN CONNECTOR'S WORK WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU, WHEN YOU CLOSE A GAP, HOW BIG DOES THE CATCHMENT AREA OR THE DISTANCE WITH WHICH SOMEBODY CAN WALK OR BIKE WITHIN A CERTAIN DISTANCE. UM, WE DID THE SAME THING JUST USING LIKE EXISTING, IF YOU'RE IN CITY HALL, WHAT'S THE DISTANCE YOU CAN WALK OR BIKE IN 15 MINUTES? UM, AND IT CHANGES AS YOU, AS YOU HAD PROJECTS. SO THERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT WAYS TO APPROACH THAT. I THINK WE'RE GONNA TRY TO FIND A WAY THAT'S, UM, REALLY EASY TO QUANTIFY USING ALL THE G I SS DATA THAT WE'VE MAPPED WITH THE PROJECTS. UM, AND THEN WE CAN TE USE THAT, THAT APPROACH TO REALLY TEST, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE, THE INITIAL RESULTS OF HOW THE SCORING AND WEIGHT WORKS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT THE RIGHT, UM, WHAT WE KNOW, WHAT WE UNDERSTAND TO BE PRIORITY PROJECTS ARE ACTUALLY SCORING IN THE, WHERE WE WOULD EXPECT THEM TO BE. AND MAKE SURE THAT THE, THE, THE WEIGHTS ARE KIND OF IN A, IN A GOOD, UH, FIRST CRACK AS PART OF THE INITIAL DRAFT BACK TO YOU ALL. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, I REALLY LIKE IT. UM, THE, THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT, I, I COULD SEE HOW THAT ONE'S A LITTLE AWKWARD AND I THINK I'VE PROBABLY BEEN SOME OF THE BIGGEST PROPONENTS OF INCLUDING THAT. UM, IT FEELS LIKE IT, THE, THE PIECES THAT I DON'T SEE IN HERE ARE LIKE SPEED AND COST AND LIKE THE THINGS THAT TO ME MAKE FOR A PROJECT [02:45:01] GETTING DONE QUICKLY, WHICH IS SPEED, COST, AND PUBLIC SUPPORT. IT'S LIKE A FEASIBILITY THING, RIGHT? AND SO I'M JUST WONDERING IF MAYBE WE CAN TWEAK THAT ONE TO WHERE IT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, HOW FAST CAN WE GET SOMETHING DONE, YOU KNOW, RELATIVE TO LIKE THE COST OF IT AND LIKE THE POTENTIAL FOR BACKLASH OR, OR A LOT OF SUPPORT. A LOT OF THE, THAT THAT'S A, THAT, THAT'S KIND OF, THAT'LL SPEAK TO THE IMPLEMENTATION APPROACH. THAT'S IN THE, THE FOLLOWING SLIDE. I THINK WHAT WE WANTED TO DO IS KEEP THE, THE Q THE, THE KNOWN QUANTITIES AS PART OF THE SCORING PIECE BECAUSE EASE OF I IMPLEMENTATION, THERE'S A LOT OF IN INPUTS TO THAT, UM, THAT WE DIDN'T WANT TO, UH, MUDDY UP SO THAT THE, THE EASIER G I S QUANTIFIABLE METRICS, JUST TO MAKE THIS A LOT MORE DYNAMIC, UM, TO RESCORE OVER TIME. UM, BUT THAT WHAT YOU DESCRIBED IS THE, WE WILL COMMONLY REFER TO AS LIKE EASE OF IMPLEMENTATION IS, IS ON THE FOLLOWING IMPLEMENTATION PIECE. UH, THIS MIGHT BE MORE LOGISTICAL. I'M LOOKING AT THE PRESENTATION RIGHT NOW AND I'M HAVING SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT SLIDES. THE TABLE I'M SHOWING ON, I'M ON NUMBER 10 OR PAGE 10 OF THE PRESENTATION FROM ONLINE. I ACTUALLY REALLY LIKE THAT TABLE LAYOUT. WAS THIS AN OLDER VERSION THAT I HAVE OR A NEWER, OR THAT'S, YOU HAVE THE EXCEL VERSION, PROBABLY THIS IS A POWERPOINT ONE THAT CAN BE A LITTLE MORE EASILY READ. SO I GOTCHA. SO THERE IS A MORE DETAILED ONE THAT THAT USES FULL SENTENCES, AN ACTUAL QUANTITIES FOR THESE DETAILS. UM, AND THE, THESE ARE MORE, UH, YEAH, LESS QUANTIFIABLE, BUT THAT'S WHAT, WHAT THERE IS A DEEPER METHODOLOGY THAT WILL GO INTO DETAIL IN ALL OF THESE. OKAY. THAT'LL BE PART OF THE, I, I LIKE THE EXCEL SPREADSHEET THAT SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT ME. I DO LIKE THAT AND I LIKE, I LIKE THE METRICS POINTED OUT AND I WAS THINKING ABOUT A WAY THAT TO SHOEHORN TREES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN HERE. BUT I THINK THAT REALLY, THAT DOESN'T GO IN THE PRIORITIZATION. THAT'S JUST AN OVERALL DESIGN FEATURE THAT GETS BAKED INTO PROJECTS MOVING FORWARD. CAN, CAN I JUST PROVIDE AN EXAMPLE FOR THOSE THAT DON'T HAVE THE, THE, THAT AREN'T SEEING THE EXCEL TABLE? YEAH. ONE EXAMPLE OF, OF THIS PROXIMITY TO LOCATIONS OF INTEREST, IT TALKS THROUGH WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, 500 FEET, QUARTER MILE, HALF MILE TO SCHOOLS AND WAITING IT ACCORDINGLY, YOU KNOW, 1, 2, 3 POINTS OR 1 5 10 OR THINGS LIKE THAT. AND IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF KIND OF INTERNAL DISCUSSIONS, UH, ABOUT HOW IT WOULD QUANTIFY, WHICH, IF WE'RE GENERALLY OKAY WITH THE APPROACH THAT WOULD BE THE NEXT LAYER TO IT SO THAT FOLKS IN THE, IN THE COMMUNITY AND, AND ALL ALL OF YOU WOULD ALSO BE ABLE TO WEIGH IN ON THAT AS WELL. SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT LIKE LOOKING BEHIND THE CURTAIN, IT'S JUST SMALLER TEXTS THAT WE COULDN'T FIT IN THIS POWERPOINT PRESENTATION. AND I'M TO BLAME FOR THAT. 'CAUSE I PUBLISHED THE POWERPOINT YESTERDAY AND THEN TODAY IT WAS UPDATED, SO IT'S, BUT UH, IT'S MORE READABLE NOW. SO WE'LL, WE'LL UPDATE THE AGENDA AFTER THE MEETING WITH THIS VERSION OF THE POWERPOINT. COOL. MOVE ON TO THE IMPLEMENTATION. YEAH, SO, UH, IN THE PRIORITIZATION PRIORITIZATION PIECE, THAT'S MORE OF, AGAIN, QUANTIFYING THINGS THAT ARE EASILY KNOWN THAT ARE BINARY, YOU KNOW, THE YES NOS, EITHER IT IS OR IT ISN'T. UM, WHAT THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN IS KIND OF ONCE THAT'S ALL BEEN BEEN SCORED, REALLY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE DIFFERENT PROJECT CAN BE IMPLEMENTED IN DIFFERENT WAYS ON DIFFERENT TRACKS WITH DIFFERENT INPUTS, WITH DIFFERENT RESOURCES AND TOOLS NEEDED. AND THAT SPEAKS TO HOW, HOW IS IT BUILT? IS IT, DOES IT REQUIRE ADDITIONAL STUDY? WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE KIND OF IMP UH, DESIGN OR, OR ENVIRONMENTAL CLEARANCE THAT'S NEEDED, ET CETERA. SO THIS IS KIND OF A VISUALIZATION OF THE IMPLEMENTATION APPROACH THAT WE ARE GONNA, UH, DESCRIBE IN THE, IN THE, IN THE, IN THE REPORT AND KIND OF WILL END UP RESULTING IN BUCKETS OF, OF IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGIES THAT THE CITY CAN THEN USE TO MORE READILY. IT'S LIKE, OH, WE HAVE A PROJECT THAT'S BOOM, BOOM, BOOM. WE CAN, WE CAN SET IT UP ONE WAY VERSUS THE OTHER. SO WE ARE GONNA HAVE A BIG PROJECT LIST. THERE'S, UH, WELL OVER A HUNDRED PROJECTS, UH, DISCREET PROJECTS IN THE MAP ITSELF. ONCE WE ARE HAVE THAT PROJECT LIST AND IT'S BEEN VETTED FOR WITH, WITH YOU ALL AND, AND, AND THE CITY, THEN WE WILL THEN KIND OF LOOK AT A DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF, OF, OF IMPROVEMENTS. UH, SO THESE ARE JUST EXA THESE ARE SUGGESTIONS. THEY'LL LIKELY BE MORE, BUT THE ONES THAT WE IDENTIFIED WERE SHORT, SHORT-TERM INSTALLATION OR QUICK BUILD OPPORTUNITIES, THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE WITH, YOU KNOW, VERY, VERY EASILY IMPLEMENTED. UH, DOESN'T CHANGE PARKING DOESN'T CHANGE. NUMBER OF TRAVEL LANES, THINGS THAT HAVE A LOW LIKELIHOOD OF OF BEING, UM, CHALLENGED BECAUSE IT'S REALLY JUST, MAYBE IT'S ADDING POSTS WHERE THERE ISN'T ALREADY OR BETTER STRIPING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. UM, LEVERAGING CITY PROGRAMS IS ANOTHER BUCKET. THERE'S THE, THE C I P LIST, THE PAVING RE REHABILITATION PROGRAM AND IDENTIFYING AND MATCHING UP THOSE CORRIDORS WITH CORRIDORS THAT HAVE PROJECTS ON THEM AND UNDERSTANDING HOW THOSE CAN BE IMPLEMENTED AS PART OF THAT THIRD ONE ARE WHAT WE KIND OF REFER TO AS GRANT MAGNETS PROJECTS THAT KIND OF CHECK ALL THE BOXES OF THE SCORING CRITERIA, UH, THAT ARE, I MEAN THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF FEDERAL MONEY OUT THERE FOR [02:50:01] PROJECTS THAT, UH, UM, ARE WITHIN IT WITHIN AN, AN ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN AND A LOCAL ROAD SAFETY PLAN, FOR EXAMPLE. AND THERE, THERE ARE QUITE A FEW THERE. SO JUST UNDERSTANDING, IDENTIFYING THAT THOSE ARE VERY EASY TO IMPLEMENT BECAUSE THEY'VE VETTED THROUGH ALL THESE OTHER ADOPT PLANS. FOURTH BUCKET THAT WE IDENTIFIED HERE IS MORE OF LIKE THE LONG-TERM CAPITAL PROJECTS. THE PROJECTS THAT IN PREVIOUS PLANS MAY HAVE SAID, OH, WE WANT TO RE-ENVISION EAST WASHINGTON, BUT WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW TO DO IT. IT'S IDENTIFYING A WAY TO ACTUALLY TAKE THAT NEXT STEP FOR THOSE TYPES OF PROJECTS SO THAT MAYBE IT IS A FIVE TO 10 YEAR PROJECT, BUT THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DO NOW AS, AS SOON AS THIS PLAN'S ADOPTED TO MOVE TOWARDS THAT. SO IT'S NOT JUST A PROJECT THAT'S TOO BIG TO, TO WORRY ABOUT 'CAUSE WE HAVE ALL THESE OTHERS. IT'S ITS OWN TRACK OF PROJECT OR OF STUDY. NEXT SLIDE. THEN THERE'S, THEN IT'S KIND OF APPLYING THE RESOURCES, TOOLS AND, YOU KNOW, POLICIES AND, AND ELEMENTS THAT ARE NEEDED TO, TO MAKE EACH OF THOSE TRACKS BE SUCCESSFUL. UH, UNDERSTANDING THERE ARE OBJECTIVE DESIGNS, DESIGN STANDARDS THAT THE CITY'S DEVELOPING. THERE'S POLICIES IN THE GENERAL PLAN. THERE ARE, UM, THERE ARE IN THE INDUSTRY, BEST PRACTICES RELATED TO COMPLETE STREETS PRACTICES. ALL OF THAT STUFF FEEDS INTO THE, A COMBINATION OF THINGS NEEDED TO MOVE ALL OF THESE PROJECTS FORWARD. IDENTIFYING THAT IN A WAY THAT REALLY KIND OF INDIVIDUALIZES THOSE BUCKETS OR TRACKS. AND LASTLY, IT'S HARD, HARDER TO READ, BUT UH, IT'S BASICALLY IDENTIFYING THAT EACH KIND OF BUCKET HAS ITS OWN IMPLEMENTATION PROCESS AND THAT THERE'S, UH, EACH, YOU KNOW, UP THE SAME PROJECT CAN BE ON IN MULTIPLE PRIORITY LISTS OR, BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN QUICK PILL PRIORITY PROJECTS. THERE MAY BE, UH, PRIORITY CORRIDORS TO STUDY. THERE MIGHT BE PRIORITY, UH, ROADWAYS THAT, YOU KNOW, ARE GETTING REPAVED IN THE NEXT THREE YEARS THAT NEED TO BE, UH, ENSURED THAT THEY DON'T, UM, THAT THEY TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE OF THOSE, THOSE MONEY, THOSE MONIES TO BE IMPLEMENTED. SO JUST UNDERSTANDING THAT IT'S KIND OF NOT JUST ONE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, IT'S MULTIPLE STRATEGIES WITH WHICH TO PUT IT IN. SO THAT'S KIND OF MY, MY QUICK, QUICK RUN THROUGH OF OUR APPROACH. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR, OR, UH, GET SUGGESTIONS TO MAKE IT, UH, BETTER AS WELL. AND, UH, THANKS JEFF. I'LL JUST ADD THAT HOW, YOU KNOW, KIND OF ON THE STAFF SIDE HOW THIS IS AMAZING BECAUSE HOW, HOW WE WOULD USE THIS IS WE'D BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE COME TO PBA ONCE A YEAR AT LEAST AND SAY, ALL RIGHT, HERE ARE TOP PRIORITY PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE ADDRESSED THROUGH UPCOMING PAVING PROJECTS. HERE ARE THE REALLY CAPITAL INTENSIVE PROJECTS LIKE THAT NEW SECTION OF RIVER TRAIL THAT, UM, ISN'T GOING TO BE BUILT THROUGH A DEVELOPMENT PROJECT WHERE WE KNOW WE NEED TO GO AFTER GRANT FUNDING. UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THOSE TYPES OF PROJECTS, UM, HERE'S THE, HERE'S WHAT WE HAVE BUDGETED FOR QUICK BUILD PROJECTS. HERE ARE TOP 10 QUICK BUILD PROJECTS THAT WE CAN DO THIS YEAR. UM, SO JUST CREATING A REALLY NICE WORK PLAN WHERE WE'RE BASICALLY MOVING DOWN THE LIST AND TAKING ADVANTAGE OF ALL THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROJECTS THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT AND, AND FUNDING SOURCES THAT WE CAN PURSUE. UM, AND HOPEFULLY JUST MAKE IT MUCH EASIER FOR YOU ALL AND FOR THE PUBLIC TO KIND OF, UM, KEEP TRACK OF, OF, UH, WHAT'S ON THE HORIZON. . SOUNDS GOOD. ALL RIGHT. , GOOD QUESTION. YEAH, WHAT'S AN INITIATIVE? WHAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF AN INITIATIVE IN THE TOOLBOX? AN ANYTHING THAT'S ESTABLISHED THROUGH A, A POLICY OR AN EVENT THAT'S PRIORITIZED, THAT'S ANOTHER CATALYST FOR GARNERING COMMUNITY SUPPORT OR CITY COMMITMENT TO DOING THINGS. ANYTHING THAT'S, THAT IS, UH, A, A, A LEG OF THE STOOL THAT WILL HELP MOVE THINGS FORWARD. UM, ABOUT THE, THE P CAC, UH, PROCESS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF, OF MAYBE IT'S NOT AN INITIATIVE AS IT IS A, A, UM, A PLANNING EFFORT, BUT THAT HAS, CAT HAS CATALYZED OR UN UNCOVERED THE NEED FOR, TO REALLY FOCUS ON CERTAIN PARTS OF THE CITY, BUT ALSO, UM, FOLKS AND, AND GROUPS THAT ARE HISTORICALLY BEEN UNDERREPRESENTED. SO USING THAT AS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING THAT GOES INTO A GRANT APPLICATION OR A, A MECHANISM WITH WHICH TO GO BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AND GET MORE SUPPORT OR MORE DETAIL FROM THEM. SO IT'S REALLY JUST CATA CATALYZING ALL THE GREAT, YOU KNOW, CITY, THE, THE CITY THREAD REPORT AND ALL OF THE OTHER KIND OF COMMUNITY LED PLANNING EFFORTS AS WELL, UM, AS JUST ONE, ONE A LOT OF LEGS TO THAT STOOL. JEFF? I DON'T, OH, I WAS JUMPING AHEAD. NO, I WAS LOOKING AT THE SCHEDULE HERE. I WAS JUST CURIOUS. IT, IT'S OCTOBER 30TH, THE DRAFT IS COMING TO PBAC. DOES THAT MEAN WE HAVE TIME TO SUBMIT COMMENTS TO YOU UNTIL DECEMBER AND THEN YOU'RE REVISING IT? MAYBE WE [02:55:01] CAN WALK THROUGH THIS AND THEN WE KIND OKAY. IT MAY ANSWER THE QUESTION, BUT I THINK WE CAN, WE CAN TALK THROUGH THAT. THE ANSWER IS YOU, YOU ALL COMMENTS ARE, ARE GREAT AND WE'LL F FOLD THEM IN AS SOON AS WE CAN. I THINK IT'S THE, WE ARE HAVE BEEN ACTIVELY, UH, DEVELOPING THE, THE REPORT CONTENT. I THINK THE, THE, THE ADDITIONS THAT YOU ALL HAVE MADE ARE AS HAVE BEEN WELCOME ADDITION AS WELL. BJORN AND I ARE ARE TRADING TEXT BACK AND FORTH. SO THERE'S, THERE'S STUFF BEING GENERATED. IT'S JUST NOT POLISHED QUITE, JUST QUITE YET. UM, I THINK THE BIG, THE BIG NEXT PIECE IS GETTING THE COMMUNITY INPUT. UH, AS PART OF THE, THE END OF SEPTEMBER, WE ALREADY HAVE THE DIGITAL VERSION. WE WANNA GET SOME MORE IN-PERSON VERSION. UM, WE'LL LAYER IN SOME OF THE P CAC FINDINGS AS WELL, UM, AS PART OF THAT. AND THEN IN BOTH OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER DURING THE PVAC MEETINGS, THERE WILL BE UPDATES SIMILAR TO TONIGHT WHERE WE TOUCH ON A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT THINGS, UPDATES TO WHAT WE'RE DOING, AS WELL AS ANOTHER LAYER TO THE ONION, IF YOU WILL. UM, THE, AND YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, SOME DRAFT CONCLUSIONS OR RECOMMENDATIONS OR SOME, SOME OF THE LIST OF PROGRAMS, NOT FULLY SURE WHAT IS GONNA BE READY IN THOSE, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE A STANDING MEETING, UM, UM, AGENDA ITEM THAT BJORN AND, AND I'LL BE TALKING WITH AND GETTING FEEDBACK FROM YOU ALL. UM, THE DOCUMENT PREPARATION IN THE OCTOBER NOVEMBER IS, IS MORE OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTION OF OF, OF GETTING, PUTTING IT ALL INTO ONE DOCUMENT, MAKING SURE THAT CITY STAFF OF DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS HAS A CHANCE TO REVIEW IT SO THAT IS READY SO THAT THE INTERNAL CITY FAMILY HAS, HAS HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW IT AND COMMENTS HAVE BEEN PROVIDED AND INCORPORATED SO THAT WHEN IT STARTS GOING OUTSIDE OF THE CITY FAMILY, THERE'S UM, IT THERE, THERE AREN'T THINGS THAT LATER CITY DEPARTMENTS WILL THEN TAKE OUT. UM, THAT'S KIND OF THE, THE GENERAL DEBT, THE, THE ETHOS THERE. AND THEN, SO NOVEMBER, DECEMBER IS MORE OF WHEN THAT KIND OF JUST GETS REFINED. WE ITERATE WITH THE CITY AS WELL A LITTLE BIT. AND THEN, UH, THE, UH, PBAC REVIEWS DRAFT IN DECEMBER IS MORE OF THAT. THE, THE INTENT AND, AND BJORN STOP ME IF I'M, IS THAT IT WOULD BE, THE DRAFT VERSION WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO YOU ALL BEFORE THAT, AND THAT WOULD BE WHEN WE ARE DISCUSSING QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS ABOUT THE CONTENT ITSELF. UM, RATHER THAN PRESENTING, YOU KNOW, THE LAST THREE YEARS WORTH OF WORK TO BACK TO YOU, UM, IT'S MORE OF GIVING YOU A CHANCE TO KIND OF HIGHLIGHT THE BIG STUFF THAT WE CAN KIND OF TALK THROUGH AS A GROUP AS WELL, UH, WITH THE IDEA THAT THAT'S THEN GONNA ITERATE IS AGAIN, UH, AND THEN WE, WITH GEARING UP FOR JANUARY, FEBRUARY FOR, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION AND ULTIMATELY CITY ADOPTION, REALIZING THERE'S STEPS EVERY MONTH TO GET IT, TO ITERATE IT THROUGH THAT. I BJORN IF THERE'S ANYTHING FROM THE CITY THAT YOU WANTED TO ADD, JUST THAT THERE'S, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST, THERE'S, THERE'S FLEXIBILITY HERE. UM, THIS IS, I I WOULD SAY KIND OF A BEST CASE SCENARIO OR, OR MAYBE THE MOST AMBITIOUS TIMELINE THAT WE COULD PUT FORWARD RIGHT NOW. UM, THAT BEING SAID, IF, YOU KNOW, WE HEAR AT THE SEPTEMBER 25TH COMMUNITY WORKSHOP THAT WE ARE NOWHERE CLOSE WITH THE PROJECT MAP, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK LEFT TO DO TO, TO FIX THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE COULD BE ADDITIONAL ENGAGEMENT, UH, UH, OPPORTUNITIES ADDED TO THE SCHEDULE. UM, LIKEWISE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE, WITH THE DRAFT PLAN WHEN IT COMES TO P A C, IF IT'S, UM, IF THERE'S, IF THERE ARE MAJOR CONCERNS OR THINGS THAT IT'S MISSING THAT AREN'T SIMPLE REVISIONS, WE'LL GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD. SO, UM, JUST WANT TO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF REASSURE PEOPLE THAT THIS IS DEFINITELY NOT SOMETHING THAT WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO RUSH OR PUSH THROUGH. UM, AND WE DO WANT, YOU KNOW, YOUR BUY-IN IS, IS OBVIOUSLY VERY IMPORTANT. IT'S NOT GOING TO GO PAST P BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION UNTIL YOU ALL FEEL REALLY GOOD ABOUT THE PLAN. SO, DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? THAT IT DOES ANSWER MY QUESTION. I, I THINK IT FEELS GOOD. I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT LIKE HOW WE CAN DO OUTREACH TO REALLY LET PEOPLE KNOW, UM, THAT THEY CAN ALSO PROVIDE INPUT AT THE P A C MEETINGS. I KNOW WE HAVE OUR, LIKE, COMMUNITY BULLETINS, BUT MAYBE JUST EXTRA LIKE ATTENTION TO SOCIAL MEDIA, ET CETERA, AND REALLY PUBLICIZING THAT OPPORTUNITY. YEAH, WE CAN DEFINITELY WORK WITH OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM TO GET THAT OUT THERE. AND WE ALSO WILL, UM, WE DO HAVE, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL GET EMAILS OUT TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE SIGNED UP FOR UPDATES ON THIS AS WELL. ARE THERE ANY COMMITTEE COMMENTS? ONE QUESTION. YES. UM, WHAT'S THE OUTREACH LOOK LIKE FOR BRINGING THE COMMUNITY TO THE SEPTEMBER 25TH WORKSHOP? HOW DO WE FEEL ABOUT THE POTENTIAL [03:00:01] TURNOUT FOR THAT? UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN, WELL, THE FACT THAT WE HAD 350 COMMENTS ON THE SOCIAL PINPOINT, I THINK THERE'S A, AND I WANNA SAY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER JEFF, THE NUMBER OF UNIQUE COMMENTERS, BUT IT WAS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF A HUNDRED. UM, SO IT'S DEFINITELY A TOPIC THAT PEOPLE ARE ENGAGED WITH. WE HAVE A LOT OF EMAIL ADDRESSES, UH, FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE EITHER ENGAGED WITH THE MAP OR HAVE SIGNED UP FOR UPDATES. SO WE CAN REACH OUT TO THAT LIST. UM, UH, YOU'VE ALREADY GOTTEN THE WORD TO OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM TO, TO INCORPORATE IN ALL OF THEIR MATERIALS BETWEEN NOW AND THEN AND GET OUT ON SOCIAL AND THE VARIOUS CHANNELS. SO, UM, BUT YOU ALL CAN DEFINITELY, UM, HELP US OUT AND, UH, HELP, HELP SPREAD THE WORD. I'M HAPPY TO, I COULD SEND OUT A, LIKE A LITTLE FLYER OR SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN, UM, CIRCULATE OR POST TO SOCIAL MEDIA, THAT'D BE HELPFUL. UM, BUT, UH, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY OUR, OUR, OUR FRIENDS IN THE COMMUNITY, UM, SAFE STREETS, PETALUMA, AND OTHER GROUPS THAT CAN HELP MOBILIZE THEIR NETWORKS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, VERY MUCH ENGAGED IN THIS. SO, UM, I CONFIDENT WE'LL GET A GOOD TURNOUT AND WE'LL MAKE ALL THE MATERIALS AVAILABLE ONLINE AS WELL, UH, FOR FOLKS WHO CAN ATTEND AND, AND PEOPLE CAN PROVIDE FEEDBACK THAT WAY. UM, YEAH, THANK YOU FOR POSING THAT QUESTION. IT WAS MAKING ME THINK OF SOME NON-TRADITIONAL ACTORS. I GUESS IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE AT THIS AS WELL, AND SOME TRADITIONAL TOO, I GUESS. UM, OBVIOUSLY SCHOOLS, UM, SOME SPECIAL OUTREACH TO THEM. UM, I THINK WE PROBABLY HAVE A LIST OF KIND OF THE MAJOR EMPLOYERS ALSO, WHO KNOWS HOW MANY PEOPLE LIVE AND WORK IN PETALUMA THAT ARE THERE. BUT I THINK THAT COULD BE HELPFUL. AND THEN THE ONE THAT I CAN'T QUITE GET MY HEAD WRAPPED AROUND, BUT FEEL LIKE IS IMPORTANT WOULD BE, UM, UH, SHOPPING CENTER, LAND OWNERS, . THAT'S NOT REALLY DEMOGRAPHIC WE CAN TARGET, BUT, UM, JUST IN TERMS OF THINKING ABOUT HOW TO CONNECT THAT, YOU KNOW, THE BICYCLE PATH TO THE, TO THE SHOP, TO THE SHOPPING DESTINATION, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT STILL NEEDS TO BE DONE. AND I THINK, LIKE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, BJORN, THAT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY. SO HOW DO WE EXACTLY KIND OF ANTICIPATE AND TRY TO HELP SOME OF THOSE NEEDS. UM, BUT I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT, BUT JUST A SUGGESTION, THAT'S ALL. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I HAVE, UM, TWO PUBLIC COMMENTS. BRUCE HAGAN, I FIND OUT ALL OF THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON WITH THIS EFFORT. I WAS KEEPING MYSELF IN THE DARK, BUT THIS IS VERY ENCOURAGING. UM, I THOUGHT I'D JUST TELL YOU BRIEFLY WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH SAFE STREETS' PETALUMA'S DOING WITH CITY THREAD, AND BJORN'S BEEN VERY INVOLVED WITH THIS, BUT THE IDEA THERE IS, UH, HOW DO WE TAKE THIS LIST OF PROJECTS AND THE THINGS THAT FLOW OUT OF THE PRIORITY LIST, AND HOW DO WE GET THEM DONE FAST? HOW DO WE GET FIVE MILES OR THE EQUIVALENT OF FIVE MILES BUILT IN THE NEXT YEAR? AND IF 25 IS THE NUMBER, OR IF WE DETERMINE THERE'S SOME OTHER NUMBER OR SOME OTHER VERY SOLID VISIBLE, UH, SMART GOAL, IF YOU WILL, METRIC THAT WE CAN PURSUE. AND WHAT I, IN FACT WAS JUST EDITING HERE AND PROMISED EARLIER TODAY IN MY EMAIL, WAS A SIGN-ON STATEMENT THAT WE COULD TAKE OUT TO THE SHOPPING CENTER OWNERS, TO THE DOWNTOWN MERCHANTS, TO ALL OF THE INTEREST GROUPS IN PETALUMA TO GET THEM TO AT LEAST UNDERSTAND AND NOT OPPOSE WHAT WE'RE DOING, PREFERABLY TO SIGN ONTO IT AND SHOW UP WHEN THEY NEED TO SHOW UP, SO THAT ANYBODY WHO DOESN'T LIKE THIS PARTICULAR DESIGN WILL SORT OF HALF-HEARTEDLY EMBARRASSINGLY MAKE THEIR REQUESTS, BUT THEY KNOW THAT THEY'RE UP AGAINST THE GREATER INTERESTS OF THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY. AND THAT'S WHAT WILL ALLOW THE PROCESSES THAT WE COME UP WITH TO DO STUFF MORE QUICKLY WHERE IT'S CHECKLISTED, WHERE IT'S TEMPLATED, WHERE WE DO THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, NOT TRY TO REINVENT IT WITH EACH NEW PROJECT THAT'LL ALLOW US TO GET IN THREE YEARS, YOU KNOW, THIS RATHER LARGE NUMBER THAT HAS BEEN ACHIEVED IN ALL THESE OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT CITY THREAD HAS WORKED WITH. SO, UM, IF ANY OF YOU, AGAIN, I INVITE YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT PROBABLY FIVE MINUTES WORTH OF AN EMAIL THREAD THAT I SENT YOU EARLIER. AND WE ARE THE SAFE STREETS PETALUMA GROUP, WHICH WILL PROBABLY GET, UH, REINCARNATED AS PETALUMA SAFE STREETS COALITION. THE INTENT WAS [03:05:01] TO BE A COALITION OF ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN EXPANDING MOBILITY CHOICES AND NOT JUST THE BICYCLISTS, UM, THAT, UH, WE'LL BE ABLE TO, UH, HELP IMPLEMENT THIS PLAN IN RECORD TIME. SO AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. THANK YOU, JESSICA. MOSES, UM, I'LL MAKE MY COMMENT QUICK, JUST, UH, REGRETTABLY, LETTING YOU GUYS KNOW THAT SEPTEMBER 25TH IS YOM KIPPUR, SO NOT GREAT PLANNING FOR THE JEWISH COMMUNITY AND WOULD ENCOURAGE CITY STAFF TO PUT JEWISH HOLIDAYS ON THE CALENDAR, ROSH HASHANAH, YOM KIPPUR, PASSOVER. I'LL HAVE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT EVENING ACTIVITIES, UM, AND TO JUST PLEASE KEEP WORKING WITH THE COMMUNICATIONS TEAM SO THAT THOSE WHO AREN'T ABLE TO ATTEND EVENTS, UH, SORT OF KNOW WHERE THE OPPORTUNITIES ARE TO GIVE FEEDBACK IN A MEANINGFUL WAY. THANKS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. UM, NEXT IS [COMMITTEE COMMENT] COMMITTEE COMMENTS. I DON'T KNOW, BRIAN, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING? I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE AN ORDER FOR THIS. , UM, BIKERACK ARE NEEDED AT TWO NINE OR DINER. TERRY. I GIVE A QUICK UPDATE FROM PLANNING. UH, OUR LAST MEETING, UH, THAT WE HAD IN PLANNING, WE REVIEWED A PROJECT, UH, THE INFAMOUS CATTLEMEN'S BECOMING CHICK-FIL-A PROJECT. UM, I THINK THAT SITE PRESENTED A LOT OF CHALLENGES WITH BIKE IMPEDED INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, AND V M T ISSUES THAT GOT RAISED AT THAT SITE AND SOME OTHER ADJACENT TOPICS, UH, LIKE EXCESSIVE PARKING, LIKE TREE COVERAGE. UH, AND I ACTUALLY HAD A, A PRETTY GOOD MEETING AFTERWARDS WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY, UH, AND OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT MANAGER, OUR PLANNING MANAGER, ANDREW TRIPLE, TALKING ABOUT HOW, UH, IMPORTANT OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS ARE GONNA BE IN THE FUTURE LOOKING AT THESE KINDS OF PROJECTS. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE LIMITED IN WHAT WE CAN ASK OF A PRIVATE PROPERTY HOLDER, WHAT WE CAN ASK OF AN APPLICANT IN CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, UH, FOR CERTAIN THINGS LIKE PARKING, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A MAXIMUM LIMIT. SO WE KIND OF HAVE TO HAVE THEIR BUY-IN TO PUSH SOME OF THESE FORWARD IN A WAY. UM, AND, AND SOME OTHER THINGS LIKE SUPPORTING CERTAIN AMOUNT OF BIKE AND PET INFRASTRUCTURE. SO I THOUGHT IT WAS AN INTERESTING PROJECT. IT WASN'T AS MUCH OF A, A NIGHTMARE, I THINK, AS SOME PEOPLE WERE BRACING FOR DESIGN-WISE. UM, I THINK OVERALL A LOT OF THINGS THAT WAS A, THAT WAS APAR MEETING, SO WE WERE DOING THE SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW. UM, BUT YEAH, I, I WAS OF COURSE NOW THAT I'M ON PBA, KEEPING MY HAT ON, LOOKING AT BIKE AND PED AND, UM, WE'RE GONNA BE PRESENTED WITH SITES LIKE THAT THAT PRESENT A REALLY BIG CHALLENGE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PLACEMENT AND WHAT WE CAN ACTUALLY DO. UH, AND SO I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK WE HAD A LOT OF OPTIONS. WE CLEARLY DIDN'T LIKE HIT IT OUT OF THE PARK WITH SOME REVOLUTIONARY THING, BUT IT'S SOMETHING I'M GONNA BE THINKING ABOUT MOVING FORWARD. AND WE'LL LOVE YOU TO HEAR FROM THIS GROUP ON CHALLENGING SITES, WHAT CAN BE DONE AND WHAT POTENTIAL LINKAGES THERE ARE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO, SO YEAH, THAT'S THE UPDATE. AND THEN WE CAN MOVE [STAFF COMMENT] TO STAFF COMMENT DURING STAFF COMMENT. STAFF WILL PROVIDE BRIEF UPDATES RELEVANT TO THIS COMMITTEE. DIALOGUE BETWEEN MEMBERS AND STAFF SHOULD BE LIMITED TO CLARIFYING QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. I CAN SENSE SOME FATIGUE, SO WE'LL TRY TO MAKE THIS VERY QUICK. UM, SO, UH, TWO, UH, QUICK CAPITAL PROJECT UPDATES. UM, GARFIELD DRIVE PAVING ON GARFIELD DRIVE AND NORTH MCDOWELL IS COMPLETE. UM, HOWEVER, THE ASSOCIATED STRIPING WORK, NOT THE CASE. UM, SO THE STRIPING ON GARFIELD IS EXPECTED IN THE FALL. UM, A GOOD PORTION OF THE STRIPING WORK ON NORTH MCDOWELL HAS BEEN DONE. HOWEVER, UM, WE ARE, UH, WE HAVE GIVEN THEM A CHANGE ORDER TO, UM, UH, ADD A LOT OF OTHER, UH, ENHANCEMENTS INCLUDING, UM, UH, GREEN PAINT AT ALL OF THE CONFLICT ZONES, DRIVEWAYS INTERSECTIONS, ADDING BIKE BOXES AT THE SIGNALIZE INTERSECTIONS. AND THOSE WOULD ACTUALLY BE ON THE, UM, THE MINOR STREET APPROACHES. SO, UM, WHAT WE ARE ENCOURAGING THERE IS IF YOU ARE BIKING ON NORTH MCDOWELL AND YOU WANNA MAKE, UH, A LEFT TURN TO INSTEAD, UM, DO IT IN TWO STAGES, GO USE THE BIKE BOX. SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU'RE RIDING, UH, SOUTHBOUND ON, ON NORTH MCDOWELL TOWARDS CORONA, YOU WANNA MAKE A LEFT ON CORONA, UM, WE WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO USE THAT GREEN, GO WAIT IN THE BIKE [03:10:01] BOX ON CORONA, THEN WAIT FOR CORONA TO GET A GREEN AND THEN CROSS, UM, JUST A MUCH SAFER, EASIER MOVEMENT TO MAKE THAN TRYING TO GET ACROSS TWO LANES OF TRAFFIC ON NORTH MCDOWELL. UM, SO THAT'S OUR APPROACH TO THAT. UM, WE ALSO ARE ADDING, UM, DELINEATOR VERTICAL, UH, POSTS TO ALL OF THE SECTIONS ON NORTH MCDOWELL THAT HAVE BUFFERED, UM, BIKE LANES. SO THOSE WILL BECOME TECHNICALLY BECOME CLASS FOURS ONCE THEY HAVE THOSE VERTICAL POSTS IN THEM. UM, THAT'S, UH, UH, I BELIEVE ABOUT 70% OF THE PROJECT. UM, IT'S ALL BUT THE SECTION BETWEEN, UM, SCOTT'S SCOTT STREET, SO, UM, HENHOUSE, LAGUNITAS AREA AND CORONA, UNFORTUNATELY, THAT WAS THE MOST CONSTRAINED SECTION WHERE WE DIDN'T HAVE THOSE ADDITIONAL TWO FEET ON BOTH SIDES TO PROVIDE THE BUFFER. BUT EVERYWHERE ELSE WE HAVE THE BUFFER, UM, IS GETTING THE, THE, UM, THE POSTS. UM, SO THOSE ARE, YOU KNOW, IT'S WHAT WE'RE HEARING IS THAT ALL OF THOSE ITEMS, GREEN PAINT, UH, AND THE VERTICAL POSTS HAVE PRETTY LONG LEAD TIMES RIGHT NOW. SO, UM, HOPEFULLY THOSE ARE IN SOONER THAN LATER, BUT, UM, EVEN AS OF TODAY, I COULDN'T GET A COMMITMENT TO A TIMELINE ON THOSE. SO, UM, SOME ADDITIONAL UPDATES ON PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE PLANNING AND DESIGN PHASES, UH, WE DID IS ISSUE AN R F P FOR A STUDY OF BIKE PED CROSSINGS OF, UM, 1 0 1. AND THE FOUR FOUR LOCATIONS THAT WE INCLUDED IN THE R F P WERE CORONA ROAD, THE RAINIER AVENUE UNDER CROSSING, UM, LYNCH CREEK TRAIL AT NORTH MCDOWELL BOULEVARD, UM, AND ALSO THE MCKENZIE AVENUE OVERCROSSING. SO, UM, THOSE WOULD INVOLVE THE, THE STUDY WOULD INVOLVE, UM, SORT OF A HIGH LEVEL, UM, CONCEPT PLAN STUDY AND CONCEPT PLAN FOR EACH OF THE LOCATIONS. AND THEN, UH, POSSIBLY DIGGING IN OR DEVELOPING MORE DETAILED, UM, DESIGNS AND LOOKING AT, UM, RIGHT OF WAY AND OTHER DEVELOPING SOME, SOME COST ESTIMATES FOR THE POTENTIAL PROJECT PROJECTS ASSOCIATED WITH EACH OF THOSE LOCATIONS. UM, AND THAT'S GRANT FUNDED THROUGH, UM, UH, MEASURE M FROM S C T A. WE ALSO, I FINALLY GOT THE ORDER FOR 76 BIKE RACKS IN, HAD TO SCALE IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT TO, UM, MATCH OUR FUNDING AVAILABILITY, BUT, UM, EXCITED TO GET THOSE ORDERED. THEY SHOULD BE DELIVERED WITHIN THE NEXT, UM, MONTH OR TWO. AND THEN, UM, GONNA, OUR CREWS WILL TAKE THEM AND, UH, START INSTALLING THEM, UH, THROUGHOUT THE FALL AND WINTER AS THEY HAVE TIME AND, AND AVAILABILITY, WHICH IS GREAT. UM, STILL, YOU KNOW, VERY MUCH OPEN THROUGH THE, THE BIKE PARKING REQUEST FORM THAT'S BEEN SHARED WITH YOU ALL. UM, BUT, UH, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF LOCATIONS ALREADY IDENTIFIED DOWNTOWN. UM, I, I HEAR THERE'S A, A NEED AT THE TWO NINE OR DINER. UM, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY I'M, UH, AS I'VE SAID MANY TIMES, I'M GOING TO, I, I'M, I'M CONSIDERING PERSONALLY INSTALLING THE ONES OUT HERE AT AT CITY HALL BECAUSE I HATE THAT RACK SO MUCH. UM, UH, AND THEN, LET'S SEE, LYNCH CREEK TRAIL WAS EXCITED. UH, KEN'S UH, DOING SOME GREAT WORK THERE, WORKING WITH A CONSULTANT. AND THEY'VE INITIATED DESIGN WORK FOR, UM, PAVEMENT REHABILITATION FROM NORTH MCDOWELL TO THE LYNCH CREEK BRIDGE. SO THAT'S THE SECTION, IT'S A ASPHALT SECTION OF THE LYNCH CREEK TRAIL THAT'S GOT A LOT OF CRACKING ISSUES. SO HE'S, UM, WORKING WITH, UM, A CONSULTANT TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY TO REHABILITATE THAT PAVEMENT, UM, AND MAKE SURE THAT THE NEXT LAYER WE PUT ON DOESN'T SUFFER THE SAME CRACKING. AND, UH, THEN ALSO, UM, DESIGNING SEPARATELY THROUGH A SEPARATE PROJECT, THE, UH, SECTION FROM, UH, PAY RAN, THE PAY RAN, UH, ACCESS POINT TO EDITH STREET. SO THAT WOULD COMPLETE ALL OF THE PAVING FROM, UM, WATER STREET. WELL, THAT WOULD ACTUALLY COMPLETE ALL PAVING ON LYNCH CREEK TRAIL. UM, AND WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT, UM, ADDING STRIPING TO THE TRAIL. SO, UM, ADDING THE WHITE EDGE LINES, DASHED YELLOW LINES IN THE MIDDLE TO DELINEATE THE TWO DIRECTIONS OF TRAVEL. UM, WE CAN BRING ALL THIS STUFF TO FEEDBACK FOR YOUR REVIEW AND FEEDBACK 'CAUSE IT GETS A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO, UH, REALITY. UM, I KNOW KEN IS ALSO WORKING ON, UH, THE MARIA DRIVE IMPROVEMENTS, FINALIZING THAT DESIGN, HOPING TO GO TO BID, UH, SOON ON THAT PROJECT AND TARGETING CONSTRUCTION IN 2024. AND THAT HAS A BUNCH OF UTILITY AND RECYCLED WATER WORK THAT WOULD PROCEED IT. AND THEN HOPEFULLY THE BULK OF THE PAVING WORK WOULD HAPPEN NEXT SUMMER WHEN SCHOOL'S OUT. UM, WE ARE HAVING A COMMUNITY WORKSHOP ON A, UH, [03:15:01] THIS IS A NEW PROJECT, UM, HOWARD STREET IMPROVEMENTS. THIS IS ANOTHER COMBINED, UH, UTILITY AND PAVING PROJECT, UM, WHERE WE'RE REPLACING, I ACTUALLY CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH UTILITIES ARE BEING REPLACED. IT'S EITHER SEWER OR WATER MAINS OR BOTH, UM, ARE BEING REPLACED, FOLLOWED BY COMPLETE, UH, PAVEMENT RECONSTRUCTION FROM A STREET TO WEST STREET. SO, UM, THAT WORKSHOP IS NEXT WEDNESDAY, RIGHT HERE, 6:00 PM AND, UH, WE'VE ALSO GOT A SURVEY UP ON THE PROJECT WEBPAGE, SO ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO THERE AND SHARE SOME OF YOUR IDEAS FOR THE CORRIDOR AND PRIORITIES, COMMUNITY ANNOUNCEMENTS. UM, I KNOW THE, THE BLUE ZONES PROJECT IS, IS, UM, UH, HAS LAUNCHED IN PETALUMA. I KNOW THEY'RE HOLDING A, UM, COMMUNITY WORKSHOP ON, UM, THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT. UM, THAT'S TUESDAY THE 19TH AT 6:00 PM AND I APOLOGIZE, THE LINK WAS TO A GOOGLE DOC, SO I COULDN'T, UM, UH, EMBED IT. BUT THAT LINK, IF ONCE THIS IS ADDED TO THE, UM, THE MEETING PAGE, I'LL SEND YOU ALL AN EMAIL AND THAT THAT LINK WILL, WILL WORK. IT'LL BE HYPERLINKED. UM, AND THEN AS WE HEARD FROM DAVE ALDEN, THE, UH, BETTER CITIES FILM FESTIVAL IS HA HAS TWO SCREENINGS THIS MONTH ON, UM, WEDNESDAY THE 20TH, THURSDAY THE 28TH. UH, THERE THAT, THERE IS A, A NICE USABLE LINK, UM, URBAN CHAT DOOR.ORG/FILM-FESTIVAL. AND I KNOW THOSE ARE ALL, UM, FILMS THAT ARE CURATED FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN, YOU KNOW, PLACEMAKING, WALKING, BIKING, ARCHITECTURE, ALL THE STUFF THAT, UH, YOU ALL LOVE AND THAT I LOVE. UM, SO, UH, GO CHECK THAT OUT. UH, SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOLS. UM, JUST A REMINDER THAT THEY HAVE A INTEREST LIST WHERE YOU CAN SIGN UP TO BE A, A BIKE CHAMPION, WHETHER THAT INVOLVES, YOU COULD LEAD A A, A BIKE, BIKE BUS OR BIKE TRAIN, UM, WALKING SCHOOL BUS. THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS YOU CAN DO. UM, AND UH, REALLY, YOU KNOW, UH, SAFE ROUTES IS TRYING TO, UH, SUPPORT, UM, PARENTS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN BEING MORE INVOLVED IN WALKING, BIKING TO THEIR KIDS' SCHOOLS. SO LAST WEEK THEY HAD A, A WEBINAR, UM, ON HOW TO LEAD BIKE TRAINS. UM, SO YEAH, WE CAN THOSE, THE KIND OF SUPPORT THEY OFFER, UM, IF YOU WANNA GET INVOLVED IN THE SCHOOL COMMUNITIES AND UPCOMING AGENDA, AGENDA ITEMS. SO OBVIOUSLY ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN WILL BE A STANDING AGENDA ITEM FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS. UM, WE'VE GOT THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS, I TOUCHED ON THAT EARLIER. UM, WE'RE, UH, PLANNING ON, I THINK HAVING THEM COME PRESENT THAT IN OCTOBER, UH, WE STILL ON THE LIST HAVE TO TACKLE THE CITY THREAD ACCELERATED MOBILITY PLAYBOOK, UM, BRUCE, AND THEN WE'VE GOT, UM, SEVERAL OTHER, THESE ARE JUST SEVERAL ITEMS THAT HAVE, HAVE BEEN ON THE, UH, DOCKET FOR A WHILE. SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN, UM, START CHIPPING AWAY AT THESE EACH MONTH. BUT APPRECIATE YOUR VERY DETAILED FEEDBACK ON THE 500 HOPPER PROJECT TONIGHT. UM, AND, UH, WAS GLAD THAT WE WERE ABLE TO, UH, GET THAT IN. SO THAT'S MY UPDATE FOR TONIGHT. HAPPY TO TAKE, UH, QUESTIONS. UM, JUST ONE QUESTION I THINK I HAD EMAILED YOU ABOUT THIS, BJORN, WAS, UM, IF WE'D EVER RECEIVED A PRESENTATION OR COULD RECEIVE ONE ABOUT THE WORK DONE ON THE PETALUMA RIVER PARKWAY, UM, WHICH I THINK WAS PREPARED FOR BY THE FRIENDS OF PETALUMA RIVER, UM, THEY WOULD GO ALONG, I THINK KIND OF NORTH OF THE LYNCH CREEK BRIDGE THAT YOU WERE DESCRIBING. UM, JUST SEEMED LIKE THERE WAS SOME INTERESTING WORK THERE THAT I KNOW THEY WERE WANTING TO COME PRESENT TO US, BUT I WE'VE GOT A LONG LIST ALREADY, SO, BUT COULDN'T HELP MYSELF. THAT'S IT, THAT'S A GREAT SUGGESTION. I, I'LL I WILL ADD THAT TO THE LIST. OKAY. THAT WOULD BE REALLY, THAT WOULD BE PERFECT FOR THIS. OKAY. YEAH. YEAH. SO YOU TALKED ABOUT ON THE, ON THE UPDATE WITH THE, UM, THE BIKE LANE ON MCDOWELL, UH, AND THE EXAMPLE THAT YOU USED WAS THE LEFT HAND TURN, IT CORONA. UM, YOU TALKED ABOUT A TWO STAGE LEFT TURN. UM, SO I WAS TRYING TO PICTURE THAT. SO THE EXPECTATION FOR A BIKE WOULD NOT TO BE GOING TO THE LEFT HAND TURN LANE, BUT TO CROSS THE STREET. [03:20:01] UM, AND THEN, AND THEN BASICALLY TURN LEFT ONCE YOU HAVE A GREEN LIGHT AT CORONA. YEAH. SO IF YOU, UH, WHEN YOU HAVE A GREEN ON, UM, NORTH MCDOWELL, OBVIOUSLY CORONA WILL HAVE A STOP. THEY'LL HAVE A RED. YEP. UM, SO YOU WOULD BASICALLY GO POSITION YOURSELF IN THE BIKE BOX IN FRONT OF THE, UH, THROUGH TRAFFIC ON CORONA. SO WHATEVER VEERED, VEERED THE RIDE INTO THAT BOX. YEP. YEAH. SO YOU'RE BASICALLY KIND OF GOING DIAGONALLY ACROSS THE CROSSWALK. YEAH. UM, AND THEN HANGING OUT IN THAT BIKE BOX IN FRONT OF, UH, THE, IN FRONT OF WHATEVER LA WHATEVER LANE YOU NEED TO BE IN TO ESTABLISH YOUR POSITION TO CONTINUE ON CORONA. SURE. AND THEN YOU WAIT FOR THAT GREEN TIME AND THEN YEAH, FOR THAT GREEN, IS THERE ANY, UM, I MEAN, DO WE THINK, UM, THAT THAT'S GONNA BE INTUITIVE FOR BIKERS OR, I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO PUT SIGNAGE. I KNOW THERE WAS A, SOME COMMENTARY AROUND WAYFINDING AND THAT SORT OF THING. YEAH. AND IT SEEMS LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE PLAY SOME SIGNAGE FOR THAT TYPE OF YEAH, I'VE EV I'VE LOOKED FOR THAT SIGNAGE. IT'S NOT STANDARDIZED, BUT, UH, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN, UM, WE CAN HAVE MADE FOR THE, FOR THESE, UH, INSTALLATIONS. UM, I LIKE THE SUGGESTION IT'S, YEAH, BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT PROBABLY NOT INTUITIVE YET. UM, HOPEFULLY IT'S SOMETHING THAT BECOMES MORE INTUITIVE AS WE PUT MORE BIKE BOXES IN AROUND TOWN, PEOPLE UNDERSTAND HOW TO USE THEM. UM, MAYBE SOMETHING WE CAN DO TOO IS, UM, SOME SORT OF EDUCATIONAL VIDEO OR JUST OTHER OUTREACH TO LET PEOPLE KNOW HOW TO DO IT. YEAH. BUT, UM, SHOULD BE MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE THAN MERGING ACROSS TWO LANES OF TRAFFIC ON NORTH MCDOWELL. SURE. TO MAKE A LEFT. I, YEAH. SO, OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. YEAH. AND IF NO ONE ELSE HAS ANY COMMENTS, I'LL JUST APPEND, I FORGOT THE MEAT OF MY LIAISON UPDATE. THE CHICK-FIL-A PROJECT SPAR WAS APPROVED WITH THE CONDITIONS OF 17. OF THE 170 PARKING SPACES WERE CONVERTED TO LANDSCAPE PARKING SPACES. UH, THEIR MINIMUM REQUIRED WAS 63. SO OBVIOUSLY THAT'S A HUGE PARKING NUMBER. AND ACCORDING TO PLANNING STAFF, THAT WAS ACTUALLY DOWN FROM WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED. UH, WE ALSO PUT IN A CONDITION OF APPROVAL TO FOCUS AT LEAST 60% OF THEIR 93 TREES. THEY'RE PLANTING TO BE, UH, NATIVE TREES AND TO FOCUS ON SUBSTITUTING ORNAMENTALS. THEY HAVE PUT IN LIKE CREPE MYRTLES WITH MORE ROBUST TREES THAT OFFER MORE, UH, SHADE COVERAGE. UH, BUT OVERALL THE SITE PLANT IS GOING TO DEMO THE CURRENT CATTLEMEN'S, PUT A 4,000 SQUARE FOOT CHICK-FIL-A AND THEN ANOTHER 5,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING NEXT TO THE EXISTING KIND OF TWO-TIER BUILDING WITH THE SADDLE SHOP. THERE'S GONNA BE ANOTHER BUILDING IN THERE. AND THEY TALKED ABOUT WORKING WITH A CANNABIS DISPENSARY IN THAT SPACE. UM, SO YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE THE, THE MEAT OF ACTUALLY WHAT HAPPENED. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GO . UNINTENTIONAL, BUT YES. FUNNY. OKAY. THANK YOU BJORN. UM, BEFORE EVERYBODY LEAVES, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE'S ANY LIGHTS OUTSIDE. BE VERY CAREFUL LEAVING. CAN WE TURN THE LIGHTS ON? WE'LL, I HAVE MY FLASHLIGHT. WE'LL, UH OH. OKAY. , DO YOU KNOW ABOUT ANY LIGHTS? OUTSIDE? LIGHTS? ENA, YOU CAN FIND MEN'S ROOM. OH, SORRY. PUT OUTSIDE TOO. YEAH. WE'LL, AND WITH THAT, WE WILL ADJOURN THE MEETING AT 9:54 PM THANK YOU. THANKS EVERYBODY. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.