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I'LL CALL TO ORDER THE SEPTEMBER 14TH, 2023 MEETING OF THE PETALUMA TRANSIT ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
IT IS 4 0 1, I BELIEVE WE BEGIN WITH ROLL CALL.
DENNIS POKAY HERE IN CASE, UH, MR. QUINT DID NOT REACH OUT TO STAFF.
HE DID ADVISE ME MONDAY EVENING.
HE WAS OUT OF TOWN TODAY, SO, OKAY.
IT APPEARS WE HAVE A QUORUM, MR. CHAIR.
[GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT]
OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.I'M HERE ON BEHALF, ER URBAN CHAT.
WHAT IS THAT TURNED ON? UH, I THINK SO.
I'M JUST NOT STANDING CLOSE TO IT.
UH, I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF PLUMER URBAN CHAT TO INVITE THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND EVERYBODY ELSE TO THE BETTER CITIES FILM FESTIVAL, SEPTEMBER 20TH AT THE BOULEVARD CINEMA AND SEPTEMBER 28TH AT THE JUNIOR COLLEGE'S CAROL E. ELLIS AUDITORIUM.
THE SECOND SCREENING IS FREE FOR STUDENTS.
THE, YOU HAVE ALL ALREADY RECEIVED EMAIL THAT IT IS FREE FOR YOU AND IF ANYBODY CAN'T MAKE IT FOR ECONOMIC REASONS, WE WILL MAKE ACCOMMODATIONS.
UM, DOORS OPEN AT FIVE FOR PRE-SHOW DISCUSSION.
THE SCREENING IS FROM SIX TO EIGHT, THE DOWNTOWN SHOWING WE'LL HAVE A VENUE FOR CONVERSATION AFTERWARDS, WHICH WE HOPE TO FOSTER A LOT OF.
UM, THE, OF SPECIFIC INTEREST TO THIS BODY.
THERE IS A, UH, SHORT FILM ON THE ZURICH TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM, AND THERE ARE VARIOUS OTHER FILMS ON MAKING CITIES BETTER.
UH, AMONG OUR SPONSORS ARE THE CITY OF PETALUMA, VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS WHICH WORK WITH PETALUMA GENERATION HOUSING, UH, ALL SORTS OF GREAT FOLKS.
AND MARIA ARCE OF THE TRANSIT STAFF WILL BE ONE OF THE TWO OFFICIAL WELCOMERS AT EVERY SHOWING, AND I'M TOLD YOU HAVE A GOOD OPINION OF HER.
SO, UH, COME SUPPORT US, PLEASE.
MS. BAKER, ARE YOU HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? NO.
[PRESENTATIONS]
THEN WE'RE ON TO PRESENTATION? UH, I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE PRESENTATION FROM SMART REGARDING THE LAYOUT FOR THE NORTH SMART TRAIN STATION.MS. BETS, GOOD TO SEE YOU HERE.
WE HAVE, UH, MICHAEL WILMOT AND LONGTIME FRIEND OF THE TRANSIT ADVISORY COMMITTEE, EMILY BETTS.
THANKS FOR JOINING US TO GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE PEDAL IN THE NORTH SMART STATION.
I'M THE PLANNING MANAGER FOR SMART.
UM, AND I DID WORK FOR PIMA TRANSIT FOR MANY YEARS, SO IT'S NICE TO BE BACK HERE.
UM, AND I'M GONNA BE GIVING THE PRESENTATION JOINTLY WITH MICHAEL WIL ROOT, WHO'S OUR SENIOR ENGINEER, AND HE'S THE LEAD ON THE PROJECT.
SO WE'LL KIND OF TAG TEAM THIS A LITTLE BIT.
YES, I NEED SOMETHING TO START THE SLIDES.
I THOUGHT I WOULD START WITH JUST A GENERAL INTRODUCTION TO WHAT SMART HAS BEEN UP TO.
UM, THIS IS A PICTURE OF OUR RIDERSHIP SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME.
WE CALL IT, YOU KNOW, SMART'S ONLY BEEN IN SERVICE FOR SIX YEARS AND HALF OF THAT TIME HAS BEEN DURING THE PANDEMIC.
SO IT'S BEEN AN INTERESTING TIME TO BE A TRANSIT OPERATOR.
THAT 72,000 WAS OUR AUGUST RIDERSHIP.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE EXCEEDED, UH, PRE COVID RIDERSHIP.
I THINK WE'RE THE, WE'RE THE TOP IN THE STATE, I MEAN IN THE, UH, BAY AREA FOR RIDERSHIP RECOVERY.
AND WE'RE THE TOP RAIL AGENCY IN THE STATE FOR RIDERSHIP RECOVERY.
SO IT'S BEEN A REALLY INTERESTING PHENOMENON TO WITNESS THAT, UM, HAPPENING IN THE NORTH BAY.
OF COURSE, THAT HAS TO HAPPEN DURING MY PRESENTATION.
WELL, IT GAVE YOU TIME TO READ THIS REALLY LONG SLIDE OF ALL THESE RECENT INITIATIVES, SO I'M NOT GONNA READ ALL OF THESE.
UM, BUT SMART'S BEEN REALLY BUSY FOR THE PAST FEW YEARS.
WE HAVE A NEW GENERAL MANAGER, EDDIE CUMMINS, AND HE BROUGHT IN A LOT OF ENERGY AND REALLY, UM, REAL POSITIVE SEA CHANGE IN DIRECTION, TRYING TO FOCUS ON PLANNING, FOCUS ON BUILDING THE PATHWAY, FOCUS ON BUILDING COMMUNITY RELATIONSHIPS, AND OBVIOUSLY RECOVERING FROM THE PANDEMIC.
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RESTORED WEEKDAY SERVICE.UH, WE HAVE EXPANDED WEEKEND SERVICE MORE THAN WE OFFERED PRE COVID.
AND ACTUALLY NEXT WEEK WE'RE TAKING AN ADDITIONAL TWO WEEKEND TRIPS TO OUR BOARD TO INCREASE WEEKEND SERVICE.
WE REDUCED FARES, WE REDUCED THE MONTHLY PASS.
WE SUSPENDED PARKING FEES, WE'VE ADDED OVERNIGHT PARKING AT OUR STATIONS SO THAT YOU CAN PARK AT THE STATION, TAKE THE TRAIN, GO TO THE CITY FOR THE NIGHT, THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, AND WE'RE JUST WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS.
WE BETTER COORDINATED THE LARKSBURG FERRY CONNECTION, THE MEREWOOD SHUTTLE, THE GIANT SERVICE.
WE'RE OFFERING FREE FIELD TRIPS, UH, FOR ANY K THROUGH 12 STUDENTS.
SO PLEASE TELL ANYONE YOU KNOW THAT HAS A STUDENT IN SCHOOL.
WE'VE BEEN OFFERING A SERVICE, UH, EVER SINCE I THINK IT WAS MAY CALLED THE STAR LIGHTER, WHICH IS A LATE EVENING SERVICE ON FRIDAYS AND SATURDAYS.
UM, OVER THE SUMMER WE PARTNERED WITH ALL OF THE TRANSIT AGENCIES IN THE NORTH BAY, INCLUDING PETALUMA TRANSIT, AS YOU KNOW, TO DO FREE YOUTH, UM, FREE YOUTH FOR THE SUMMER.
WE'RE NOT CONTINUING THAT UNTIL THE FALL.
UM, SO WE DON'T HAVE THE, THE FUNDING LIKE PETALUMA TRANSIT DOES, BUT IT WAS A REALLY POSITIVE, UM, REALLY POSITIVE BOOST ON YOUTH RIDERSHIP ON THE TRAIN.
UM, THE OTHER THING THAT WE HAVE DONE IS LAUNCHED OUR FIRST MICROT TRANSIT SHUTTLE.
AND I INCLUDED THIS 'CAUSE I KNOW THIS GROUP IS GONNA BE CONSIDERING THE POSSIBILITY OF MICROT TRANSIT IN PETALUMA.
SO WE'VE STARTED THIS MICROT TRANSIT SERVICE UP AT THE AIRPORT STATION.
ITS PRIMARY JOB IS TO TAKE PEOPLE BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE SMART STATION AND THE AIRPORT ITSELF, BUT IT ALSO SERVES MANY OTHER DESTINATIONS ON DEMAND IN THE AREA.
UM, IT MEETS EVERY SINGLE NORTHBOUND TRAIN, SO WHEN YOU GET OFF THE TRAIN, IT'S SITTING THERE WAITING FOR YOU.
IT TAKES WALK-ONS OR YOU CAN BOOK AHEAD OR YOU CAN BOOK ON THE APP.
AND, UH, FOR SOUTHBOUND TRAINS, THE SOFTWARE IS SET UP SUCH THAT YOU PUT IN THE TRAIN TIME AS YOUR DESTINATION AND THEN IT MAKES SURE THAT YOU MAKE YOUR CONNECTION WITH THE TRAIN.
AND THAT WAS THE CHARLES SCHULTZ AIRPORT, RIGHT? IS THAT THAT'S RIGHT.
THE SONOMA COUNTY AIRPORT, THE CHARLES SCHUTZ AIRPORT.
AND YEAH, IF YOU LOOK REALLY HARD, YOU CAN SEE THE LITTLE SNOOPY ICON ON THE SIDE OF THE VAN.
AND ACTUALLY PRETTY SOON WE ARE GONNA GET REAL SNOOPY ON THE TRAIN IN THE VAN.
OKAY, I'LL PASS IT OVER TO MICHAEL NOW.
AS EMILY MENTIONED, I'M THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR THIS.
I'M REALLY EXCITED TO BRING THIS PROJECT UP TO YOU GUYS.
UM, SO THE PETALUMA NORTH STATION IS AT CORONA ROAD JUST NEXT TO MCDOWELL BOULEVARD.
UM, WE ARE PLANNING TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTING THE STATION IN LATE 2023.
SO WE ARE IN THE BIDDING PHASE RIGHT NOW.
WE WILL BE OPENING BIDS NOT THIS NEXT WEDNESDAY, BUT THE WEDNESDAY FOLLOWING, AND WE PLAN TO AWARD IN NOVEMBER.
FROM THERE, WE EXPECT TO COMPLETE BY LATE 2024 AND HAVE RAIL PASSENGER SERVICE BY SPRING OF 25.
THE FUNDING FOR THIS STATION WAS BY T I R C P.
UH, PETALUMA CONTRIBUTED 2 MILLION AS WELL AS THE COUNTY WITH MEASURE M MONEY.
AND WE ARE STILL WAITING TO HEAR ON, UM, ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR PROJECT ADDITIONS.
UM, THIS IS THE GENERAL LAYOUT OF THE PARCEL WE WERE JUST LOOKING AT.
UM, I HOPE I CAN GO BACK JUST TO GIVE YOU A GOOD IDEA.
SO KEEP IN MIND THIS TRIANGLE HERE, THAT IS THE SAME AS THE TRIANGLE THAT YOU'RE SEEING THERE, BROWN AND GRAY.
UH, IT USED TO BE AN INDUSTRIAL SITE.
SO WHAT WE'RE PLANNING ON PUTTING IN HERE IS OUR NEW PETALUMA NORTH STATION, A PLAZA AREA AND STATION PARKING LOT.
AS FAR AS TRANSIT AMENITIES GO, YOU SEE DOWN ON MCDOWELL BOULEVARD, THERE IS GOING TO BE A BUS STOP THAT'LL BE CONSTRUCTED THERE AND HIGHLIGHTED YELLOW.
AND NOW LET'S GET A LITTLE BIT MORE INTO THE DETAILS OF THE STATION.
HERE'S A LAYOUT OF THE STATION.
IT, IT HAS OVER A HUNDRED PARKING SPOTS.
WE HAVE 12 BICYCLE LOCKERS, 12 BICYCLE RACKS.
UM, AT OPENING, WE PLAN ON HAVING SIX EV CHARGERS AVAILABLE.
UH, THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE SITE IS PREPARED FOR UP TO 24 EV CHARGERS, AND ALSO WE ARE CONSTRUCTING THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR SOLAR AT THIS SITE.
AND UP ON THAT TOP END, YOU SEE THE HIGHLIGHTED AREA IS A BUS DROP OFF.
SO WE'VE DESIGNED THIS WITH THE IDEA OF ALLOWING FOR BUS CIRCULATION THROUGH THIS PARKING LOT IN THE EVENT THAT A BUS ROUTE GOES THROUGH THERE.
SO YOU'RE, YOU ARE THE TRANSIT EXPERTS HERE, BUT I WANTED TO JUST LAY OUT SOME OF THE CON CURRENT CONDITIONS FOR TRANSIT.
SO YOU CAN SEE RIGHT THERE, UM, IS HIGHLIGHTED THE YELLOW TRIANGLE SHOWING WHERE THE STATION IS.
SO THE ROUTE TWO CURRENTLY COMES UP THERE, AND THEN THE ROUTE 48 AS WELL.
THERE ARE A COUPLE STOPS ALONG THERE, BUT I PRESUME
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THEY'D BE CONSOLIDATED THROUGH THIS DEVELOPMENT.UM, IF YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT WHAT DESTINATIONS PEOPLE MAY BE TRAVELING TO WHERE THEY MIGHT, UM, ALIGHT AT THE PETALUMA NORTH STATION, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE SANTA ROSA JUNIOR COLLEGE IS A PRETTY BIG DESTINATION.
UH, PETALUMA HEALTH CENTER, PETALUMA VALLEY HOSPITAL.
SO THOSE ARE BOTH ON THE ROUTE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS GONNA BE A BIG ORIGIN STATION FOR EAST SIDE COMMUTERS WHO, YOU KNOW, MAY WANT TO TAKE THE TRAIN BUT MAYBE DON'T WANNA DEAL WITH THE HASSLE OF DRIVING TO MIDTOWN AT THIS POINT.
SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF TRANSIT SERVICE, THAT'LL BE A CONSIDERATION IS HOW TO CIRCULATE OR, YOU KNOW, COVER THE NEIGHBORHOODS ENOUGH TO FEED THE STATION.
UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, FOR THIS TYPE THING, YOU COULD DO A CIRCULATOR ROUTE, IT COULD LOOP UP TO S R J C, UH, WHICH IS PICTURED ON THE TOP RIGHT THERE.
OR YOU COULD OFFER SOMETHING BY LIKE A MICRO TRANSIT MODEL, WHICH OFFERS A COMBINATION OF FIXED TIME POINTS AND ON DEMAND TIME POINTS IN THE AREA.
SO THERE IS ANOTHER PART OF THIS PROJECT THAT IS GOING TO BE HAPPENING AT THE SAME TIME.
UH, WE HAVE THE PETALUMA NORTH PROJECT IS REALLY A JOINT PROJECT ENCOMPASSING NOT ONLY THE STATION, BUT ALSO A PATHWAY FROM SOUTH POINT BOULEVARD IN PETALUMA UP TO MAIN STREET IN PEN GROVE, AS WELL AS CONSTRUCTING A PATHWAY IN RUNNER PARK AT GOLF COURSE DRIVE UP TO BELLEVUE AVENUE.
AND WE ARE ALSO REBUILDING THE MCDOWELL BOULEVARD GRADE CROSSING AT THE SAME TIME.
AND WE'LL BE FINISHING UP THE PAVING IN THAT AREA.
UM, IF YOU'VE BEEN OVER THERE, YOU'VE NOTICED MAYBE THAT THE PAVING DIDN'T GO ALL THE WAY TO THE TRACKS.
WE COORDINATED WITH YOUR DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS, UM, TO ENSURE THAT WE WEREN'T STEPPING ON EACH OTHER'S TOES OR REDOING WORK THAT HAD ALREADY BEEN DONE.
SO WHEN WE COME THROUGH AND REBUILD MCDOWELL BOULEVARD, ALSO THE PAVING WILL BE COMPLETED OVER THERE.
UM, UPON COMPLETION OF THIS SECTION OF PATHWAY IN PETALUMA, WE WILL NOW HAVE A TOTAL OF 4.3 MILES FROM DOWNTOWN PETALUMA ALL THE WAY TO PENN GROVE FOR CLASS ONE BIKEWAYS.
SOME OF OUR UPCOMING WORK WE HAVE IS THE WINDSOR EXTENSION.
SO THIS PROJECT IS FULLY FUNDED NOW.
WE'LL BE GETTING BACK INTO CONSTRUCTION STARTING LATE THIS YEAR.
THE HEALDSBURG EXTENSION IS PARTIALLY FUNDED.
OUR FIRST ORDER OF WORK WILL BE TO, UM, ATTACK THAT BRIDGE, REPLACE THE OLD BRIDGE, AS WELL AS CONSTRUCT A PATHWAY FROM BEHE TO, UH, I BELIEVE IT'S FRONT STREET IN HEALDSBURG.
AND ALSO IN THE NEXT COMING YEARS, WE HAVE 15 MILES OF ADDITIONAL PATHWAY THROUGH MARIN AND SONOMA THAT ARE FUNDED AND READY FOR CONSTRUCTION.
ANY QUESTIONS? YES, OF COURSE.
ARE THE PATHWAYS BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN? YES.
WE'VE, WE'VE CALLED 'EM LOTS OF DIFFERENT THINGS, MULTI-USE PATHWAYS, UM, BUT YES, THEY ARE BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'VE GOT TWO THEN.
NOBODY IN PETALUMA EVER TALKS ABOUT SOMETHING BEING NORTH PETALUMA, IT'S EAST AND WEST OR CORONA.
AND I, THIS INDIVIDUAL WOULD ARGUE THAT YOU'RE COSTING YOURSELF SUPPORT WHEN YOU CONTINUE TO CALL THE, THE NORTH PETALUMA STATION.
'CAUSE IT JUST DOESN'T REALLY FIT WITH WHAT OUR, HOW WE VIEW OUR WORLD.
SO I'M JUST MAKING A POINT ON HIS BEHALF, NO QUESTION THERE.
AND, AND THEN ALSO WHEN I LOOK AT THE LOCATION OF THE RETAIL, IT STRIKES ME THAT IT WAS SORT OF LIKE, IT WAS THE LEFTOVER PARCEL.
SO LET'S CALL IT SOMETHING, IT'S NOT CONVENIENT TO SOMEBODY WHO'S PARKED.
IT'S OUT A DIRECTION FOR THEM TO GO GET A CUP OF COFFEE BEFORE HEADING BACK TO THE SMART TRAIN.
IT'S SEPARATE SOMEWHAT FROM THE HOUSING.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, IN A WORLD WHERE WE WANT TO MAKE THINGS AS CONVENIENT AS POSSIBLE, WE SEEM TO BE USING, ONCE AGAIN, USING LEFTOVER LAND FOR RETAIL RATHER THAN PUTTING IT IN A PLACE WHERE IT'S TRULY ACCE, EASILY ACCESSIBLE, CONVENIENTLY ACCESSIBLE ON FOOT.
SO AGAIN, I THINK THIS IS WAY TOO FAR DOWN THE ROAD TO MAKE A CHANGE WHEN I JUST WANNA LOOK AT IT.
I JUST WANNA DO THE, THE, THE PALM TO FOREHEAD THING GOING, WE JUST CAN'T SEEM TO GET THESE THINGS RIGHT.
SO THAT'S JUST ME BEING CURMUDGEON.
ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY, I HAVE ONE QUICK THOUGHT, MR. CHAIR.
I JUST WANNA REPRESENT, I'VE HEARD A FEW PEOPLE ASK THIS QUESTION, SO MAY BE HELPFUL TO THROW IT OUT THERE.
COULD YOU TALK A LITTLE MORE ABOUT CONNECTIVITY THROUGHOUT THE STATION? LIKE IF YOU'RE GOING FROM THE BUS STOP ON MCDOWELL, WHAT THE PEDESTRIAN PASS WOULD BE LIKE, REACHING THE STATION AND WALKING THROUGHOUT? ABSOLUTELY.
UM, SO WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THE PROPOSED, UM, OTHER SITE HERE.
SO THE BUS ROUTE IS ON THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE.
THE WALKING PATH WOULD BE DOWN MCDOWELL BOULEVARD, UP THE
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SIDEWALKS.I WISH I COULD POINT TO YOU FOR THIS A LITTLE.
SO THERE ARE SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS ROADWAY, WHICH BRING YOU UP TO A PASS THROUGH RIGHT HERE.
AND THAT IS DIRECTLY CONNECTED TO OUR PAVED ROUTES OR, UH, CONCRETE SECTION OF SIDEWALK.
SO YEAH, THERE, THERE IS A DIRECT ROUTE FROM THE BUS STOP DOWN THERE ON MCDOWELL TO OUR PLAZA AREA AND PLATFORM.
OKAY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
NEXT UP IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR THE JULY 13TH MEETING.DID ANYONE HAVE ANY CORRECTIONS TO PROPOSE TO THOSE MINUTES? NOT HEARING ANY COMMENTS? I THINK THE MINUTES ARE DEEMED APPROVED.
DO YOU NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE MR. HALL? WE ARE
[PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION]
NOW DOWN TO AGENDA ITEM THREE, DISCUSSION OF THE ON THE, OF THE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING PURCHASE OF ELECTRIC SWITCHGEAR.UH, MR. CHAIR FOR ELECTRIFICATION CHAIR, IS THAT YOURS? MR. CHAIR, IF YOU COULD JUST GIMME ONE MOMENT JUST TO PULL THIS UP.
UH, OF COURSE, MR. THAT'S FINE.
UM, GOOD AFTERNOON, JARED HALL, TRANSIT MANAGER.
SO THIS ITEM, WE HAVE A RELATIVELY LIGHT AGENDA TODAY.
THIS IS ONE ITEM OF BUSINESS THAT WE HAVE AND IT'S A SOMEWHAT TECHNICAL ITEM AT THAT, BUT IT'S RELATED TO THE ELECTRIFICATION OF THE TRANSIT FACILITY.
AS WE KNOW, WE HAVE, UM, SEVERAL CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT ARE PLANNED FOR F Y 24.
ONE OF THE MOST NOTABLE ONES IS ELECTRIFICATION OF THE TRANSIT FACILITY.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE KNOW BASED ON PRIOR STUDIES WE'VE DONE DATING BACK TO 2019 IS NECESSARY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO RECEIVE AND CHARGE ELECTRIC BUSES.
UM, IN ORDER TO DO SO, WE HAVE TO INSTALL SEVERAL PIECES OF INFRASTRUCTURE TO IMPROVE THE TRANSIT YARD.
OTHERWISE, IF WE RECEIVED THE ELECTRIC BUSES, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO OPERATE THEM BECAUSE WE CAN'T CHARGE THEM.
AND SO THAT CAN BE A FAIRLY LONG PROCESS TO DO SO WITH A LOT OF CONCURRENT PIECES OF WHICH WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT MORE GOING IN THE FUTURE, LIKE BUS PROCUREMENTS.
I'M HOPING TO HAVE AN ITEM IN THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
BUT THIS ITEM RELATES TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE ITSELF AND A PIECE OF ELECTRIC HARDWARE KNOWN AS ELECTRIC SWITCHGEAR.
AND WITHOUT GETTING INTO ALL THE, UM, TECHNICAL DIAGRAMS OF HOW IT WORKS FOR THE PG E CONNECTIONS INTO THE YARD, BASICALLY BETWEEN THE PG AND E TRANSFORMER AND THEN THE YARD WHERE WE WOULD HAVE OUR CHARGERS, WHICH WILL BE PURCHASING RELATIVELY SOON AS WELL.
AND INSTALLING, THERE'S AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF HARDWARE NOTED AS AN ELECTRIC SWITCHGEAR BOX.
UM, PART OF THE REASON WHY WE WANTED TO ADVANCE THIS PART OF THE PROCESS WITH PURCHASING SWITCHGEAR IS THAT WE HAD BEEN WARNED BY OTHER AGENCIES HOW LONG THE BUILD TIME IS GIVEN CURRENT SUPPLY CHAINS, SEVERAL TRANSIT AGENCIES THAT WE KNOW HAVE ACTUALLY RECEIVED ELECTRIC BUSES, BUT THEY HAVEN'T HAD THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO USE THEM, MOSTLY BECAUSE THIS ONE PARTICULAR PIECE OF HARDWARE.
SO OF COURSE THE LAST THING WE WANT TO DO IS GET TO A POINT WHERE WE HAVE THESE AWESOME NEW ELECTRIC BUSES SITTING THERE THAT WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH BECAUSE WE CAN'T LITERALLY CHARGE THEM AND THEY'RE EMPOWERED.
AND SO THIS ITEM IS TO PURCHASE A PIECE OF ELECTRIC SWITCHGEAR THROUGH A JOINT PURCHASING AGREEMENT THROUGH SOURCE.
WELL, UM, OVERALL IT WOULD BE A 3,200 AMP, 480 VOLT, THREE-PHASE ELECTRIC SWITCHGEAR UNIT.
AND WE CREATED THE, UM, TECHNICAL COMPONENT, WHICH YOU CAN SEE IN THE PACKET WORKING WITH NV FIVE, NV FIVE BEING THE CONSULTANT THAT THE CITY OF PETALUMA IS WORKING WITH FOR ITS FACILITY, ELECTRICAL DESIGN, NOT JUST WITH TRANSIT, BUT FOR ALL OTHER SITES.
SO RIGHT NOW THE CITY IS WORKING WITH 'EM ON A DOZEN OTHER SITES TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IMPROVEMENTS ARE NEEDED.
THE DESIGNS IN THE CASE OF TRANSIT, WE'RE AT APPROXIMATELY 50% DESIGN LEVEL FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE NEED.
SO AGAIN, PROBABLY THE FIRST QUARTER OR SO OF NEXT YEAR, YOU'LL SEE AN THE ITEM TO WHERE WE WANNA START BIDDING OUT THE ELECTRIC SWITCHGEAR IMPROVEMENTS, UM, INSTALLING THESE COMPONENTS.
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PHASE OF IT.AND SO THIS ITEM IS FOR PURCHASING A PIECE OF SWITCHGEAR, WHICH THE CURRENT LEAD TIME THAT WE'RE WARNED ABOUT IS ESTIMATED TO BE 60 TO 70 WEEKS.
SO EVEN IF THIS ITEM WE GET APPROVED, THAT'S KIND OF THE TIMELINE WE'RE LOOKING AT TO TAKE DELIVERY PLUS RECEIPT OF IT INSTALLATION.
SO THAT'S REALLY THE SOONEST THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE AND CHARGE ELECTRIC BUSES.
UM, ON THE BUS SIDE, WE'RE GENERALLY HEARING IT'S ABOUT A YEAR, SO 52 WEEKS OR SO FOR BUILD DELIVERY TIME ONCE WE DO THAT.
SO OVERALL THE TIMELINES ALIGN PRETTY WELL WITH ORDERING, RECEIVING BUSES, RECEIVING AND INSTALLING THE SWITCHGEAR.
IT'S SEVERAL THREADS THAT IDEALLY YOU WANT TO REACH THE END POINT.
THE FINISH LINE AT THE SAME TIME IS KIND OF THE ROPE WE'RE TRYING TO THREAD WITH THE PROJECT.
AND SO BASICALLY THIS ITEM BEFORE YOU IS REQUESTING PERMISSION TO, UM, PRESENT AN ITEM, A RESOLUTION TO THE CITY COUNCIL THAT WOULD LET US PURCHASE THIS PIECE OF SWITCHGEAR FROM WESTCO DISTRIBUTION.
THE ESTIMATED COST IS 140,000, UM, AND CHANGE, AND WE ANTICIPATED 10% CONTINGENCY EXPENSE IN THERE.
SO A TOTAL COST, A LITTLE UNDER 155,000.
IT'LL JUST BE THE ELEMENT OF BUYING THE SWITCHGEAR.
AND THEN ONCE WE RECEIVE THE SWITCHGEAR, WE'LL HAVE TO INSTALL LATER ON AS PART OF WHAT'S KNOWN AS THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE FOR THE PROJECTS.
SO ONCE WE REACH DESIGN AND THEN WE BID IT OUT, AND THEN WE DO CONSTRUCTION, THEY'LL BE INSTALLING SEVERAL PIECES OF EQUIPMENT LIKE CHARGERS, DUCT WORK, AND MOST NOTABLY THIS PIECE OF SWITCHGEAR.
BUT WHAT WE WANNA DO IS REALLY GET AHEAD OF THOSE OTHER TIMELINES AGAIN.
SO THIS PIECE WITH THE LONGEST COMPONENT ISN'T DELAYING THE OTHER PIECES AND DELAYING THE ELECTRIFICATION EFFORT OVERALL.
UH, SO WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS, MR. CHAIR.
ACTUALLY, BEFORE WE DO THAT, I, IN LOOKING AT MY AGENDA, I REALIZED I'M NOT USED TO HAVING PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE.
I REALLY SHOULD HAVE ASKED FOR PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING THE SMART PRESENTATION.
SO IF WITH YOUR APPROVAL, CAN I OPEN THAT DOOR BACK TO THAT? YES, OF COURSE.
DOES ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO COMMENT ON THE SMART THANK YOU, MS. BAKER.
I APOLOGIZE FOR MISSING IT EARLIER.
MR. LIKE, IF YOU COULD PERHAPS THE, THE SMART ENGINEER IS STILL IN THE LAW IN THE LOBBY, PERHAPS ASK IF HE COULD LISTEN IN.
I'VE GOT KEITH WORK DUE, SO I'M, MY MOUTH LOOKS A LITTLE STRANGE.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I, I'VE BEEN USING THE SMARTPATH AND I
IT'S, YOU GOTTA GET USED TO THE LITTLE 90 DEGREE YEARS
AND, UM, I WAS GOING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT ONE AND I THOUGHT, YEAH,
YOU JUST WAIT AND WAIT AND WAITED, NOTHING.
SO I'M NOT SURE IF THERE WILL BE, AND I'M SO LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT, UH, WORK ON THE, ON THE RAIL.
UH, IT, I'M REALLY, REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS.
I COULD JUST JUMP UP AND DOWN AND DO CARTWHEELS,
AND SO, UM, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT.
AND, UH, IT'S, IT'S GOING TO BE EXCITING TO HAVE THAT CONNECTIVITY.
AND YES, I THINK IT, A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL BE INTERESTED IN, IN, FOR INSTANCE, NOW THAT MCDOWELL IS JUST A HONEY TO, TO BIKE ON.
IT'S, I MEAN, THE, THE FACT THAT YOU CAN WE'LL HAVE THAT CHOICE ON THAT NORTH STATION AND FINALLY, UM, THE BUS CONNECTION, THAT'S, OH MY GOSH, THAT'S GONNA BE SO AWESOME.
IT'S JUST GIVING US MORE, YOU KNOW, TO THINK ABOUT IT.
MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO GET ON THE BUS.
AND I AM, UM, REALLY, REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
UH, WE'RE FORMING AT LEE SENIOR APARTMENTS.
WE'RE FORMING A LITTLE GROUP, A LITTLE TRANSIT GROUP, AND WE'RE GONNA WORK WITH MARIA AND IT'S GOING TO BE EXCITING.
BUT FOR THIS, UM, PROJECT, I JUST WANNA SAY I REALLY, REALLY AM EXCITED.
THIS IS GOING TO BE A NICE, NICE LITTLE, UM, TRANSIT, UM, BUS, UM, TRAIN AND, AND BIKES AND ALL KINDS OF WONDERFUL THINGS.
AND, AND IF YOU COULD FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD AND GIVE IT TO THE CLERK, IT WOULD BE APPRECIATED.
IT'S AT THE BACK OF THE ROOM, THE, THE YELLOW PAPER.
I SEE STEVE VICE, VICE MAYOR ALSO WANTS TO SPEAK.
AND TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM SMART, I APOLOGIZE FOR HAVING MISSED THIS STEP EARLIER.
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I LOVE BEING ON THIS SIDE.UM, SO I WAS JUST AT THE, UH, SS R J C AND WE WERE JUST HAPPENED TO BE TALKING ABOUT TRANSIT MICRO MOBILITY.
AND SO I'VE ALREADY TALKED WITH EMILY.
UM, AND APPARENTLY SIX MONTHS BEFORE THE STATION IS COMPLETED, THEY'LL REALLY START WORKING WITH, UM, THE SS R J C, THE HEALTH CENTER.
AND IT WOULD BE GREAT IF THE MICRO BREWERIES ARE INCLUDED IN THIS, IF THIS IS THE DIRECTION WE'RE GONNA BE GOING.
UM, BUT MY QUESTION IS, UM, FOR MICHAEL, THE CORONA RAIL CROSSING, IS THAT GOING TO BE UP UPDATED TO MAKE IT SAFER AND WIDER FOR BIKES, PEDESTRIANS, AND CARS AT THE SAME TIME? I THINK HE'S PREPARED TO RESPOND.
UM, YEAH, WE COORDINATED WITH CITY OF PETALUMA, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS AT THAT GRADE CROSSING.
UM, WE ARE ADDING A SIGNALED PEDESTRIAN CROSSING THERE FOR SAFETY.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE PED GATES ON THE SOUTH SIDE, PEDESTRIAN GATES, SORRY.
UM, AND THEN WE'RE ALSO WIDENING THAT A LITTLE BIT.
SO WE'RE TAKING THE, THE GATE ARM AND PUSHING IT BACK TO ACCOMMODATE MORE WIDTH THE ROAD THERE.
SO WHAT THIS IS GONNA ALLOW US TO DO IS TO HAVE A BIKE LANE IN EACH DIRECTIONS AS WELL AS VEHICLE TRAFFIC IN BOTH DIRECTIONS.
SO YES, THERE ARE ABSOLUTELY IMPROVEMENTS HAPPENING AT CORONA ROAD AS WELL.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
AND MS. MS CATER THOMPSON, THANKS FOR ASKING THE QUESTION.
CAN I ASK SOME FOLLOW UPS ABOUT THAT? OH, CAN I ASK SOME FOLLOW UPS ABOUT THE, UH, I GUESS, YEAH, I GUESS SO.
HOW ABOUT THE, UH, UH, BIKE INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, IMPROVEMENTS? I KNOW THAT THE CROSSINGS AREN'T ALL AT 90 DEGREES.
IS THERE ANY, UM, THOUGHT TO, UH, I KNOW THE INTER INTERFACE BETWEEN, UH, RAILS AND UH, BIKES, UH, CAN SOMETIMES BE HAZARDOUS.
UM, HAS THERE BEEN ANY THOUGHT GIVEN TO HOW WE CAN SORT OF IMPROVE SAFETY THERE? YEAH, AGAIN, WE WORKED WITH DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS AND THE DESIGNER FOR THE MCDOWELL BOULEVARD PAVING PROJECT.
THEY GAVE US A DESIGN TO IMPROVE THE BICYCLE PATH OF TRAVEL ACROSS THE TRACK AT MCDOWELL BOULEVARD.
SO YES, THAT IS BEING HANDLED HERE AS WELL.
WE GET, IT'S, IT'S A VERY WIDESPREAD PROJECT DEALING WITH A LOT OF ISSUES AND TRYING TO WRAP 'EM ALL UP INTO ONE, ONE SOLUTION.
I THINK I SEE MS. ABRAMS ALSO HAS A QUESTION.
OH, IF YOU COULD BE MORE SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT THE IMPROVEMENT ON THE RAIL FOR BY TRAFFIC CROSS.
SO WE ARE REBUILDING THE CROSSING FOR RAIL ITSELF AND FOR, UM, BICYCLE TRAFFIC.
WE ARE REROUTING THEM TO GET PERPENDICULAR CROSSINGS THERE IN BOTH DIRECTIONS SO THAT THEY ARE NO LONGER TAKING THAT SKEWED RIDE OVER THE TRACK.
UM, VERY DANGEROUS AS WE ALL KNOW.
UM, SO WE ARE WORKING TO IMPROVE THAT.
ANYTHING ELSE? I'D LIKE ANYTHING ELSE, MS. MS. FRY? WELL ONCE I OPEN THE DOOR BACK UP, ALL THINGS, ALL SORTS OF THINGS HAPPEN.
UM, I'D LIKE TO THANK THE, WHAT THEY'RE DOING, UH, THAT CROSSING.
I LIVE IN THE PETALUMA STATES, WHICH IS RIGHT AT THAT CROSSING.
UH, WE HAD TWO KIDS ON A BICYCLE THE OTHER DAY DO A HEADER BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T KNOW TO CROSS AT A RIGHT ANGLE OF THE TRACK.
AND ALSO THE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO THANK THEM FOR IS THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF SENIORS WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO USE THE PATH AND RIGHT NOW IT'S INCONVENIENT AND UNSAFE FOR US TO GET TO THE PATH ACROSS MCDOWELL.
SO THIS WHOLE REBUILDING OF THAT AREA, UM, FOR EASIBILITY OF CROSSING RIGHT THERE, ESPECIALLY IN A WHEELCHAIR WITH A WALKER OR FOR MY CASE WITH MY CANE, UM, IT IS MUCH EAS IT WILL BE MUCH EASIER ONCE IT'S ALL COMPLETED.
AND DOES THAT CONCLUDE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE PRESENTATION? OKAY, THANK YOU AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE FOR MY OMISSION.
UH, WE ARE NOW READY TO TAKE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE, UM, WESCO ACQUISITION.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE? NO.
SO IN ESSENCE, WE'RE PURCHASING A PART THAT WON'T BE AVAILABLE FOR FIVE YEARS.
STILL A LONG TIME, BUT NOT QUITE THAT LONG.
FORTUNATELY, WE'RE BASICALLY PURCHASING IT LONG BEFORE IT'LL BE AVAILABLE.
YEAH, I MEAN USUALLY THIS TYPE OF EQUIPMENT WHEN THINGS WERE MORE NORMAL WAS MAYBE A THREE TO FOUR MONTH BUILD BECAUSE IT'S A FAIRLY CUSTOM DESIGN CUSTOM BUILT THING.
IT'S NOT LIKE AN OFF THE SHELF PART, BUT GIVEN DELAYS, THAT'S KIND OF THE STANDARD WAIT TIME THESE DAYS FOR THIS SWITCHGEAR IS ABOUT 60 TO 70 WEEKS, BUT YES, THAT IS CORRECT.
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ONTO THAT, IT, IT'S, UH, AS I WAS READING IT, UM, AND I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS IN FRONT OF ME AND I WASN'T CERTAIN ABOUT 'EM, BUT IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS KIND OF TIGHT ANYWAY.EVEN IF IT WENT TO PAST 70 WEEKS, LIKE, UH, WE MIGHT HAVE BUSES WAITING, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE STUFF I I ORDER THAT'S ON ORDER.
IT ALWAYS COMES EVEN LATER THAN, THAN I WAS SAID IT WOULD COME.
AND I JUST WONDER IF, IF THERE'S, IS THERE STILL AN ISSUE MAYBE WITH IT SHOWING UP IN TIME OR, OR YOU'RE VERY CON YOU'RE CONFIDENT IT'S OKAY.
WELL, I MEAN, WE THINK THE TIMING WORKS OUT WELL WITH ALL THE ITEMS. OF COURSE, THERE'S ALWAYS A CHANCE FOR DELAY.
THE SOONER WE GET IT IN THE QUEUE AND HAVE IT BEING BILLED, THE LESS LIKELY THAT IS.
BUT THERE'S A FEW ELEMENTS IN THE PROJECT THAT COULD HAVE DELAYS DEPENDING ON THE BUILD TIME.
THE CHARGERS, FOR EXAMPLE, HAVE ONE OF THE SHORTER COMPONENTS WE'RE TOLD THAT'S ABOUT FOUR MONTHS BUILD TIME.
THE BUSES HAVE ABOUT, UH, 52 WEEKS OR SO, BUILD TIME, BUT ALSO POTENTIAL FOR DELAY.
THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS INDUSTRY-WISE RELATED THAT MAY TIE IN.
FOR EXAMPLE, I DON'T LET PEOPLE KNOW, BUT PROTERRA BUS MANUFACTURERS GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF CHAPTER 11 RIGHT NOW, THAT MAY HAVE INDUSTRY-WIDE IMPLICATIONS WITH BUILD TIMES DELAYS.
AS OF NOW, I WOULD SAY THE TIMING PRETTY WELL COINCIDES BETWEEN THE SWITCHGEAR ARRIVING AND THE BUSES ARRIVING.
WE DID LOOK AT THE OPTION OF AN EXPEDITED BUILD, UM, TO GET IT ABOUT TWO TO THREE MONTHS EARLIER, BUT THE COST WAS ABOUT 50% HIGHER.
SO WE FELT THAT'D, GIVEN THE TRADE OFF OF THAT TIME, IT WASN'T WORTH THE, UH, DIFFERENTIAL AND THE COST TO TRY TO EXPEDITE IT OR THAT 10% OR SO.
I THINK WE WOULD PROBABLY RECOMMEND IT, BUT WE DIDN'T THINK IT WAS WORTHWHILE.
WELL, AND, AND JUST TO GIVE MAYBE MORE BACKUP TO WHAT MR. HALL IS SAYING, OR TRANSIT MANAGER HALL, THOSE OF YOU WHO'VE DRIVEN UP NORTH BOULEVARD MAY HAVE NOTED THAT THE, UM, MID BEND PROJECT ACROSS FROM LAVIA THERE AT THE CORNER OF OAK SAT THERE WITH A FOUNDATION ONLY FOR SIX OR EIGHT MONTHS.
THAT WAS A MATTER OF THEY COULDN'T GET SWITCH GEAR.
THE ENTIRE PROJECT WAS STOPPED BECAUSE OF THIS PARTICULAR CRITICAL PATH.
SO, AND THEN CREDIT GOES TO TRANSIT FOR GETTING IN FRONT OF THIS ONE DID BETTER THAN MID PENN DID.
I'M JUST GLAD WE HAD KNOWN THROUGH CONVERSATIONS WITH OTHER AGENCIES.
I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE, THEY AREN'T DOING WORK OR TALKING.
THEY OFTEN ARE SURPRISED BECAUSE SOMETHING, AGAIN, THAT'S FOUR MONTHS TAKES OVER A YEAR AND THEN YOU'RE POTENTIALLY HITTING THE BRAKES ON A PROJECT FOR AN EXTENDED AMOUNT OF TIME.
I, I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION, AND IT'S NOT RELATED TO THIS PARTICULAR ACQUISITION, BUT, UH, MR. PETERS, IN OUR LAST MEETING, MEETING BEFORE LAST, I GUESS COUNTING, COUNTING THE BUS TRIP IN BETWEEN, UH, HAD SOME REALLY INTERESTING COMMENTS ABOUT PROVIDING OFFSITE CAPACITY.
IF THERE WERE DISRUPTIONS IN THE ELECTRICAL, UM, CIRCUITS IN TOWN HAVE, IS THAT SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER? IT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE CONSIDERED WE'LL CONTINUE TO CONSIDER.
AS OF RIGHT NOW, I WOULD SAY THERE'S NOT AN EXACT ALTERNATIVE FOR WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
THERE'S BEEN A FEW OPTIONS FLOATED, LIKE, I FORGET THE NAME OF THE POTENTIAL, UM, ENERGY EXPANSION HAPPENING NEAR THE GOLF COURSE WITHIN PETALUMA.
THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED AS AN OPTION.
UM, SOMETHING WE'LL LOOK INTO FURTHER.
WORKING WITH OTHER TRANSIT AGENCIES OF COURSE WOULD BE A GOOD ONE.
LIKE SONOMA COUNTY TRANSIT, SANTA ROSA CITY BUS IS THE CLOSEST ONES NEARBY, BUT BOTH OF THEM ARE IN SANTA ROSA WORKING WITH PETALUMA CITY SCHOOLS.
UM, THEY HAVE THEIR SCHOOL YARD OF COURSE OVER ON KENILWORTH DRIVE, NEAR TARGETS.
THEY HAVE ABOUT A HALF DOZEN OR SO ELECTRIC SCHOOL BUSES NOW.
SO I THINK IT'S A MATTER OF CONTINUING TO LOOK INTO THOSE ALTERNATIVE SITES, CREATING AGREEMENTS IN ADVANCE WHERE NEEDED.
SO YOU HAVE SEVERAL BACKUP OPTIONS LIKE WE DO NOW WITH FUELING.
YOU WANNA HAVE THE EQUIVALENT WITH CHARGING, NOT KNOWING WHAT COULD COME, HOPING THAT ANY POWER OUTAGE WOULDN'T BE EXTENDED, WOULDN'T BE CITYWIDE, COUNTYWIDE, ET CETERA.
BUT TRYING TO BUILD IN AS MANY OPTIONS AS POSSIBLE.
EVEN THINGS WITHIN THE YARD, LIKE BATTERY BACKUP SYSTEMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THE ONLY PIECE WITH THAT I WOULD SAY IS THE BATTERIES ON THESE BUSES.
THE BATTERY PACKS ARE SO HUGE THAT A LOT OF THOSE SYSTEMS ARE REALLY ENOUGH TO CHARGE ONE, MAYBE TWO BUSES.
SO THE ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOES BECOME QUITE STRIKING WITH HOW MANY BATTERIES YOU WOULD NEED TO HAVE FULL RESILIENCY FOR ELECTRIC BUS FLEET, FOR EXAMPLE.
I, I'M GLAD YOU'RE FOLLOWING UP ON DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND IF YOU COULD KEEP US UPDATED AS THAT, UH, DEVELOPED, THAT'D BE APPRECIATED.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH, QUICK QUESTION.
UH, SO JUST TO MAKE SURE THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE'D BE ORDERING NOW WOULD BE ENOUGH TO, TO SATISFY US AT FULL, UH, ONCE WE'VE GONE COMPLETELY ELECTRIC, CORRECT.
I'M SORRY, I COULDN'T QUITE CATCH THAT LAST PART.
OH, ONCE WE'VE GONE COMPLETE, ONCE THE FLEET IS COMPLETELY, UH, CHANGED OVER IT, THIS EQUIPMENT WE WON'T HAVE TO ORDER ANYMORE.
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THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE ONE AND DONE CORRECT.SO IT'S KIND OF TRYING TO THREAD A NEEDLE AGAIN WITH PG E THEY HAD THEIR EV FLEET PROGRAM.
AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S REFERENCED IN HERE BRIEFLY, IS THAT WE, UM, CITY OF PETALUMA TRANS IN THIS CASE APPLIED, WAS ACCEPTED.
THEY GAVE US 180,000 TO DO ELECTRIC INFRASTRUCTURE UPGRADES.
THAT'S THE MAIN FUNDING SOURCE FOR THIS.
UM, SORRY, I LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT ON THAT.
TRYING TO REMEMBER THE QUESTION.
BUT THAT'S, SO IT'S, THAT'LL BE, UM, IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO OPEN THIS UP 'CAUSE WE DID TALK ABOUT THIS BRIEFLY IN AUGUST, AND SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS A, THAT ONCE THIS PIECE IS DONE THAT LIKE, OKAY, THAT'S, THAT'S IT.
SO THEY WANT YOU TO THREAD THE NEEDLE IDEALLY TO WHERE YOU HAVE A FIVE TO 10 YEAR WINDOW OF WHAT ELECTRIC VEHICLES YOU'RE GONNA IMPROVE.
THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO GO BEYOND THAT AND DO WHAT THEY CALL PROOFING OF DOING ENOUGH INFRASTRUCTURE UPFRONT FOR 20 YEARS BECAUSE THEY'RE POTENTIALLY COVERING SOME OF THE BILL THROUGH THESE INCENTIVE PROGRAMS. AND SO THEY ONLY ALLOW YOU TO LOOK OUT IN THAT WINDOW OF FIVE TO 10 YEARS MAXIMUM.
WE'RE LOOKING AT KIND OF THE MOST AGGRESSIVE POTENTIAL SCENARIO WITHIN THAT.
SO THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE DO NOW WILL COVER AS MANY BUSES AS WE THINK WILL WITHIN REASON BE ELECTRIC BY THAT TIME.
AND IN OUR CASE, WE ANTICIPATE IT COVERS OVER 80% OF THE FLEETS.
UM, AND THIS PIECE OF SWITCHGEAR WE THINK WILL BE ENOUGH TO COVER THE ENTIRE FLEET OVERALL, GENERALLY, UM, BEYOND, BUT IT'S NOT UNCOMMON FOR TRANSIT AGENCIES TO HAVE TO DO MULTIPLE PHASES OF ELECTRIFICATION OVER TIME.
FOR EXAMPLE, UM, SAND, IT'S A CITY BUS.
THEY'VE DONE ONE FIRST PHASE FOR FOUR BUSES, BUT THEY SHARE THEIR FACILITY WITH OTHER CITY FUNCTIONS THAT MAY HAVE OVER A HUNDRED VEHICLES.
THEY'RE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT PHASE TWO OF THEIR PROJECTS.
THERE IS A CHANCE THAT THERE WOULD BE A PHASE TWO FOR US AS WELL, BUT THAT WOULD BE OVER FIVE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD AND A SMALLER PROJECT OVERALL, THIS COVERS THE PREPONDERANCE AND WE FEEL THAT ALL THE EQUIPMENT WOULD STILL BE USEFUL.
IT WOULDN'T BE OUTDATED BY THAT POINT.
UNDERSIZED NEED TO BE REPLACED.
WELL THAT'S GREAT NEWS COUNCIL MEMBER.
OH, I'M SORRY MR. GALLIN, WERE YOU NOT THROUGH? NO.
IF YOU WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT, THAT'S FINE.
MY NEXT QUESTION IS COMPLETELY OH, OKAY.
YEAH, I JUST, UH, HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE, YOU KNOW, WITH THIS SYSTEM, WITH THESE BUSES, HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE TO CHARGE ONE ALL NIGHT OR, YOU KNOW, IT DEPENDS ON THE CHARGERS AND THE BUSES, BUT GENERALLY WE'RE ANTICIPATING ANYWHERE FROM SIX TO EIGHT HOURS BASED ON 150 TO 180 KILOWATT CHARGER.
AND THE BUSES WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT ARE FIVE 50 TO 650 KILOWATTS OR SO APPROXIMATELY.
FORTUNATELY IT WORKS WELL FOR PETALUMA TRANSIT BECAUSE WE CURRENTLY HAVE DOWNTIME GENERALLY FROM 9:00 PM TO ABOUT 6:00 AM SO IN ALL THE SCENARIOS THAT WE LOOK AT, EVERYTHING WOULD BE FULLY CHARGED BY THE MORNING WITHOUT NEED FOR A LOT OF MID ROUTE CHARGING THAT A LOT OF AGENCIES HAVE TO DO.
YOU KNOW, A LOT OF AGENCIES THAT ARE RUNNING LONGER DISTANCE, 24 HOURS A DAY, THEY NEED MID ROUTE CHARGING, CHARGING AT TRANSIT MALLS.
WE'RE FORTUNATE THAT WE ANTICIPATE THE CHARGING AT THE DEPOT, THE TRANSIT YARD OF 5 5 5 NORTH MCDOWELL WOULD BE ENOUGH TO COVER THE FULL ELECTRIC NEEDS FOR THE FLEET OVERALL.
THEN MR. COW, YOU THINK YOU HAD MORE QUESTIONS? YEAH.
UM, AND I AM NOT, UH, AN ELECTRICIAN AT ALL.
SO PERHAPS THIS IS A RIDICULOUS QUESTION.
UM, BUT I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, NEW HOUSING GOING IN, UH, NEARBY AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THERE WASN'T GONNA BE ANY NOISE POLLUTION, UH, FALLING OVER TO THOSE HOMES.
HAS ANY SORT OF, UM, NOISE STUDY BEEN DONE OR ANY ANALYSIS ON THAT? I KNOW IT'S SEQL EXEMPT, SO IT'S NOT SO DOESN'T NEED TO BE, BUT HAVE YOU CONSIDERED IT? I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T QUITE CATCH ON THE LAST PART.
WAS IT, UM, ASKING ABOUT CE Q A IMPACTS OF, WELL, SO IT WOULD NORMALLY BE CAUGHT UNDER QUA, BUT THIS IS OF COURSE CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE PROJECT, RIGHT? SO I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THAT'S, IT'S NOT REQUIRED FOR THE CONTRACTOR TO DO THAT, BUT IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'VE CONSIDERED BEFORE, IT'S SOMETHING WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT.
I MEAN, THIS PROJECT IS CE A EXEMPT GIVEN THE FACT THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE FOOTPRINT OF THE PROJECT OVERALL? YOU KNOW, IT'S VIEWED AS BEING A, A ENVIRONMENTAL IMPROVEMENTS GIVEN THE CURRENT STATE OF ALL THE DIESEL BUSES, GAS VEHICLES THAT WE HAVE DOING THAT AS WELL.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT AND HASN'T BEEN FLAGGED THUS FAR, BUT AS WE CONTINUE THE WORK, UH, WOULD N BE FIVE THE DESIGN WORK THAT WE'LL KEEP AN EYE OUT FOR AND IF ANY FLAGS COME UP, OF COURSE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE ADDRESSED AT THAT POINT.
AND I WOULD SAY THIS IS KIND OF THE FIRST ITEM TO COME BEFORE THIS BODY IS KIND OF A BUSINESS ITEM DISCUSSION.
THERE'LL BE SEVERAL MORE EVERYTHING FROM BUS PURCHASES TO THE DESIGN WORK, FINALIZING THAT TO AWARDING THE BID OF A CONTRACTOR.
SO THERE WILL BE SEVERAL MORE STEPS ALONG THE WAY THAT WE'LL CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THAT INFO IF ANYTHING ELSE DISCOVERED AT THAT POINT.
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I DO HAVE A QUESTION.UM, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY, UM, IF THIS, SO THIS IS A SIX CHARGING STATION FOR SIX WITH THIS, I DON'T KNOW, THERE'S A FINITE NUMBER OF CHARGERS WE COULD ATTACH.
BUT WHAT WE'RE PLANNING FOR WITH THIS FIRST PHASE IS 10 CHARGERS.
AND EACH CHARGER HAS TWO PLUGS, SO ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE 20 VEHICLES.
OF WHICH OUR ENTIRE FLEET IS ABOUT 25 BETWEEN FIXED ROUTE AND PARATRANSIT WITH ABOUT FOUR TO FIVE SUPPORT VEHICLES.
SO EVENTUALLY THIS WOULD BE ENOUGH TO ELECT, SUSTAIN, ELECTRIFYING THE WHOLE FLEET OR AT LEAST 80 PLUS PERCENT, 80 TO 90%.
THERE'S A CHANCE THAT WE DON'T NEED TO DO ANY MORE SPACES, NOT EVERY SPACE NECESSARILY HAS TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO PULL A VEHICLE IN AND CHARGE MM-HMM.
SO THERE IS A CHANCE THIS COVERS ALL THE NEED, BUT I WOULD SAY AT A MINIMUM THIS COVERS AT LEAST 80% OF THE ANTICIPATED NEED.
I SHOULD OPEN THIS UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON A MORE TIMELY BASIS.
THIS TIME I HAVE NO CARD, BUT IS THERE ANYONE IN THE, UH, CHAMBER WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? SEEING NONE, I'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.
UH, I WILL EITHER HEAR FINAL COMMENTS OR I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
APPROVE THE, UH, DIRECTOR'S, UH, UH, SUGGESTION.
AND I'LL SECOND WITHOUT A SECOND FROM MR. KGI.
[COMMITTEE COMMENT]
TO COMMITTEE COMMENT.UH, FOR THOSE WHO MIGHT BE NEW TO THE FORMAT, THIS IS JUST AN OPEN FORUM FOR ANYBODY ON THE COMMITTEE TO OFFER THINGS THAT ARE PERTINENT TO THE WORLD OF TRANSIT.
I WILL START ON MY FAR RIGHT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER POST.
UM, I WAS JUST HOPING WE'D GET WHEN I SAW THE LIST OF FUTURE TOPICS, UH, UH, YEAH, I'D REALLY LIKE TO GET BACK TO THE 2024, UH, UM, UM, WHAT'S THE WORD I WANT? GOAL.
MR. KAGEN, I THINK THIS IS GONNA BE COVERED, UM, IN JARED'S REPORT AFTER THIS, BUT, UM, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, UH, MICROT TRANSIT.
THERE WAS A, THE SMART MADE A PRESENTATION, THEY, UH, HAD THEIRS.
AND I WAS WONDERING IF WE COULD PERHAPS GET THEM TO GIVE US A PRESENTATION ON THEIR, UH, MICROT TRANSIT PROGRAM TO THE AD HOC COMMITTEE.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN GET GOING OR IS THIS NOT THE RIGHT TIME TO BRING THAT UP? I THINK SO.
WE'RE HAPPY TO REACH OUT IF, UH, MS. BETTS IS WILLING TO DO DOUBLE DUTY, WE'LL INVITE HER BACK.
SHE'S A PROJECT MANAGER FOR THAT TO ASK SMART TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE, UH, CONNECT MICROT TRANSIT PROJECT.
YEAH, IT COULD BE SUPER HELPFUL.
UM, I JUST WANNA EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION FOR THE MEETING LAST TIME.
UH, RIDING THE BUSES WAS A WONDERFUL INTRODUCTION TO THE SYSTEMS AND, UM, UH, I'VE BEEN ON THE BUSES SEVERAL TIMES SINCE BECAUSE IT WAS A NICE INTRODUCTION.
UM, I, I HAD A CURIOSITY, UH, ABOUT SOMETHING THAT THE, THAT UM, MANAGER FOR MV, IS THAT THE CONTRACTOR? YEAH, BILL MIDDLETON, THE GENERAL MANAGER.
UM, UM, AND, UM, I THINK, UM, WE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S WONDERFUL THAT HE HAD INCREASED THE STAFFING SIGNIFICANTLY OVER A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.
AND I, I WONDERED, UH, WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPENS, UH,
SO, UM, PEOPLE MAY RECALL A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO, WE ACTUALLY BROUGHT AN ITEM BEFORE THIS BODY, THE TRANS ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT WAS RECOMMENDED, ULTIMATELY BROUGHT BEFORE COUNCIL.
AND IN THAT CASE THERE WAS AN INCREASE IN THE CONTRACTS WITH THE MV CONTRACT.
WE HAVE FOUR BASE YEARS AND THEN THREE ONE OPTION YEARS.
AND SO WE'RE CURRENTLY ENTERING NOW FOR F Y 24, THE SECOND OPTION YEAR THAT GETS APPROVED.
BUT WHAT WE DID WHEN WE WENT FROM THE BASE FOUR YEAR TO THE FIRST OPTION YEAR IS WE REALIZED THAT A COMBINATION OF KIND OF THE LABOR MARKET AND THEN WAGES UNDER THAT CONTRACT WERE JUST KIND OF BELOW THE MARKET BELOW COMPETITORS.
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AND SO WE, THE CITY WORKED WITH MB AND HAD SOME NEGOTIATIONS BACK AND FORTH ON ADJUSTING THE CONTRACT AND MOST NOTABLY THE WAGES WITHIN IT SO THAT WE COULD BRING THE WAGES UP TO SCALE WITH NEARBY AGENCIES BASED ON KIND OF THE STUDY THAT WE DID.AND SO WE DID THAT THROUGH THAT RENEWAL.
IT WAS A COMBINATION OF THE RENEWAL FOR ANOTHER YEAR, PLUS AN AMENDMENT THAT BUMPED UP THE WAGES.
I BELIEVE THE STARTING WAGES AT THE TIME WERE $19 50 CENTS OR SOMEWHERE IN THAT AREA.
AND THEN THEY WENT UP TO ABOUT 20, UM, $5 25 CENTS OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER 5% INCREASE THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSED RENEWAL THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED, UM, A COUPLE WEEKS AGO.
THAT'S GONE BEFORE COUNCIL ON MONDAY.
AND SO WHEN WE DID THAT RENEWAL, WE INCREASED IT THEN FOR FY 23 AND THEN THERE WAS INCREASES TO THE WAGES BUILT IN FOR THE TWO REMAINING OPTION YEARS.
BUT THAT'S HOW THAT PLAYED OUT IS IT WAS A NEGOTIATED EXTENSION AMENDMENT TO BE AGREEMENT BROUGHT BEFORE COUNCIL WITH A REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING THROUGH THE PROJECT, MOSTLY COMING OUT OF T D A TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT ACT FUNDING TO COVER THE INCREASE.
IT'S INTERESTING TO KNOW THAT PROCESS.
AND I WOULD SAY THAT, UM, INCREASE, THAT'S ONE OF THE PIECES THAT BILL TOUCHED ON DURING THE MOBILE WORKSHOP IS THAT'S ONE OF SEVERAL THAT WAS REALLY HELPFUL TO ADDRESS THE, UM, WORK SHORTAGE THAT WE HAD.
WE'RE FULL COMPLETELY ON THE MV SIDE.
WE HAVE A FULL CONTINGENT OF DRIVERS, MECHANICS, SUPERVISORS, AND IT'S REALLY HAD A BIG IMPACT ON THE SERVICE.
AND OF COURSE IT ALLOWS US TO EXPAND AND DO A LOT MORE IMPROVEMENTS, ADDING MORE SERVICE, CONSIDERING DOING THINGS LIKE MICRO TRANSIT, WHEREAS BEFORE THE LABOR SIDE ALONE WAS SUCH A BARRIER TO DOING THOSE ITEMS. NOW THAT'S NOT A MAJOR CONCERN ANYMORE.
UH, FOR MY COMMENT, I WILL JUST, UH, SECOND WHAT MR. LIKE SAID EARLIER, UH, THE BETTER CITIES FILM FESTIVAL FIRST SHOWING WILL BE A WEEK FROM YESTERDAY, THE 20TH AT THE BOULEVARD CINEMAS, UH, FIVE O'CLOCK ARRIVAL.
YOU CAN PURCHASE TICKETS ONLINE OR FREE TICKETS ARE AVAILABLE BASED ON THE EMAIL YOU GOT FROM, UH, THE COMMITTEE CHAIR.
UH, E THE ZURICH FILM IS VERY MUCH ABOUT TRANSIT, BUT ANYTIME YOU START TALKING URBAN PLANNING, YOU'RE GONNA SEE BUSES IN PROBABLY OVER HALF OF THE FILM.
SO I HOPE A LOT OF YOU CAN CAN JOIN US THERE THAT EVENING.
[STAFF COMMENT]
WE ARE ON TO STAFF COMMENT.UM, SO WE WON'T RUN THROUGH EVERYTHING THAT'S IN THE MANAGER'S REPORT, BUT JUST TO HIT SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS THAT WE HAVE, OF COURSE, WE ARE DOING THE FAIR FREE YOUTH SUMMER PROGRAM THAT IS NOW CONCLUDED FOR THE FIVE AGENCY PROGRAM OF WHICH WE WERE PARTNERS ALONG WITH SANTA ROSA CITY BUS, SONOMA COUNTY TRANSIT SMARTS.
AND THEN, UM, WHY AM I FORGETTING THE FIFTH AGENCY MARIN TRANSIT? SO THAT PROGRAM HAS ENDED, BUT IT STILL CONTINUES FOR OURSELVES.
SANTA ROSA CITY BUS AND SONOMA COUNTY TRANSIT THROUGH THE END OF JUNE, 2025.
AND SO WE STILL CONTINUE TO PROMOTE THAT PROGRAM.
WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS A MORE DETAILED WRITEUP ON THE RIDERSHIP IMPACTS THAT WE SAW AND PRESENT THAT AT THE NEXT MEETING NEXT MONTH.
SO SOMETHING TO LOOK FORWARD TO.
WE MET WITH AMTRAK STAFF TO TALK ABOUT THE THROUGHWAY BUS, WHICH IS A GREAT ADDITION, UH, TO PETALUMA TRANSIT THAT REALLY EXPANDS THE AREA AND GEOGRAPHY.
YOU CAN GO TO RIDING TRANSIT FROM PETALUMA ON THE NORTH END THAT GOES TO CAL POLY HUMBOLDT, A LITTLE NORTH OF ARC.
AND OF COURSE IT RUNS THROUGH SANTA ROSA THROUGH PETALUMA AND IT ENDS UP ON THE SOUTHERN END IN MARTINEZ.
SO YOU HAVE A PRETTY BIG GEOGRAPHY YOU CAN GET TO ON THAT ROUTE.
AND WE WERE TALKING WITH THEM ABOUT PROMOTING THE SERVICE MORE.
AND YOU CAN SEE IN THE PACKET HERE, UM, THE LATEST SCHEDULE AND MAP FOR ROUTE SEVEN, THE ONE THAT SERVICE PETALUMA, IT'S GREAT.
UM, THERE WAS A RECENT DEVELOPMENT THAT PREVIOUSLY TO RIDE AN AMTRAK THROUGHWAY BUS, YOU HAD TO HAVE AN AMTRAK RAIL TICKET FIRST TO BUY IT.
BUT THROUGH STATE, UM, LEGISLATURE THAT WAS PASSED OVER THE PAST COUPLE YEARS, THAT'S NO LONGER THE CASE.
SO NOW ANYONE CAN BUY A BUS ON THAT SERVICE UNRELATED TO THE RAIL SERVICE AND RIDE AT ANY TIME.
AND SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
AND THAT OF COURSE SERVES PETALUMA AT THE COPELAND TRANSIT MALL AT THE GOLDEN GATE TRANSIT GATE IF PEOPLE WANNA RIDE THAT SERVICE, WHICH WE ENCOURAGE.
UM, OTHERWISE I THINK A LOT OF THE ITEMS WERE ALREADY, UM, TOUCHED ON SUCH AS, UH, MICROT TRANSIT AD HOC.
THE NEXT MEETING WILL BE ON THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 21ST.
WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.
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ABOUT THE OVERALL APPROACH TO THE, UH, MICROT TRANSIT PILOT AND WHAT ISSUE IT'S TRYING TO SOLVE, TALKING A BIT MORE ABOUT GOALS AND THEN STARTING TO TALK MORE ABOUT THE STRUCTURE, WHAT THAT PROGRAM'S GONNA LOOK LIKE.SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.
AND THEN ALSO THE, UH, FILM FESTIVAL OF WHICH MARIA, AS WAS MENTIONED, WILL BE IN ATTENDANCE AND I'M HOPING TO MAKE A SECOND DATE OF THAT.
SO VERY MUCH LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT AS WELL.
AND UNLESS I'M MISSING SOMETHING THAT DOES CONCLUDE OUR BUSINESS FOR THE DAY.
SO THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 4:51 PM THANK YOU FOR ALL, FOR BEING HERE.