* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:02] MAYOR, ARE YOU READY TO BEGIN THE MEETING? YES. WE ARE RECORDING IN PROGRESS. GOOD EVENING. WELCOME TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PETALUMA CITY COUNCIL AND THE PETALUMA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT SUCCESSOR AGENCY FOR MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 18TH. IF YOU WISH TO PROVIDE COMMENT ON ANY OF TONIGHT'S AGENDA, PLEASE FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD IN THE BACK OF THE CHAMBER AND BRING IT TO THE CITY CLERK. I WILL NOW INVITE MONICA RICCIO AND MARIA GALVEZ TO PROVIDE INFORMATION TO THOSE WHO WISH TO PARTICIPATE IN SPANISH THIS EVENING. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU. READY? AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, MAY WE HAVE A ROLL CALL THIS EVENING? COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLE PRESENT VICE MAYOR CATER THOMPSON. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER HEALY. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER NOW. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER SKE. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER SHRIVES HERE. MAYOR MCDONALD HERE. ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT. THANK YOU. AND NOW A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND ONE MINUTE OF SILENCE. THANK YOU. AND, UH, MOVING INTO THE BUSINESS OF THE, UH, EVENING, THIS EVENING, UM, UM, LOOKING AT WHETHER WE HAVE [AGENDA CHANGES AND DELETIONS (TO CURRENT AGENDA ONLY)] ANY AGENDA CHANGES OR DELETIONS TO WHAT, UH, WE'VE POSTED LOOKING UP AND DOWN THE COUNCIL. I SEE WE HAVE NO, UM, AGENDA CHANGES OR DELETIONS FOR THE EVENING. AND SO, UH, WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE AGENDA AND, UH, WE, UH, HAVE, UH, IT'S A TREAT TO HAVE WITH US TONIGHT FOR A PRESENTATION ON [PRESENTATIONS] EXTREME TEMPERATURE RESPONSE. UM, OUR EMERGENCY RESPONSE MANAGER, UH, THOMAS JORDAN, UM, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR BEING OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY. SO I GOT THE EMERGENCY, UH, PREPARATION HELP MEETING, AND, UH, SO WHAT DO WE HAVE TO TELL TONIGHT? OH, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AGAIN, MY NAME IS TOM JORDAN, AND I SERVE AS AN EMERGENCY SERVICES, I BEG PARDON, AS THE EMERGENCY MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF PETALUMA. UM, IT'S A NEW POSITION, AS MOST OF YOU ALL KNOW, AND I'M VERY EXCITED TO HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY IN GENERAL AND CERTAINLY TO PRESENT TO YOU ALL TONIGHT. THIS EVENING, WHAT WE'LL BE DISCUSSING IS THE EXTREME TEMPERATURE RESILIENT PETALUMA MODEL, AND THIS IS A DEVELOPING, UH, PROCESS, AND WE'RE LOOKING TOWARDS SOME REALLY EXCITING OPPORTUNITIES TO ADDRESS EXTREME TEMPERATURES AS WE MOVE INTO THIS, UM, THIS NEW ERA. UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. I'LL NEED A MOMENT FOR A TECHNICAL ISSUE. YES, [00:05:08] THANK YOU PATRICK, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYOR. A BRIEF AGENDA WILL BE, UH, INTRODUCING THE TOPIC, DISCUSSING OUR STARTING POINT FOR THIS PLANNING EFFORT, DISCUSS THE THREAT A BIT, OUR TIMELINE, AND SUMMARIZE OUR EFFORTS AS AN INTRODUCTION. UM, OUR CLIMATE IS CHANGING IN A MATTER THAT PRESENTS WEATHER PATTERNS THAT ARE UNUSUAL AND WHICH HAVE BEEN SHOWN TO CAUSE DISPROPORTIONATE HARM ON VULNERABLE POPULATIONS SUCH AS CHILDREN, LOW INCOME FAMILIES, AND SENIOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS. THIS CHANGE IS PREDICTED TO GROW WHILE TEMPERATURES IN THE PETALUMA AREA RARELY EXCEED SAFE CONDITIONS. OUR COMMUNITY IS NOT ACCLIMATED WITH THE CONSISTENT AND EXTREME HIGH TEMPERATURES OF OTHER AREAS, MAKING OUR VULNERABLE POPULATIONS MORE VULNERABLE THAN THOSE IN AREAS WITH CO CONSISTENTLY HOT TEMPERATURES. MY COUNTERPARTS AT THE SONOMA COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ARE REFERRING TO THESE, UH, CLIMATE INDUCED EXTREME TEMPERATURES, AS MANY DISASTERS, UM, AS OPPOSED TO THE LARGE EARTHQUAKE, UH, CATASTROPHIC FIRE, UM, THESE KIND OF WOBBLERS WHERE MAYBE AN EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTER IS AN ACTIVATED. HOWEVER, THERE IS HARM TO THE COMMUNITY ARE BECOMING PART OF, UM, THE EXPERIENCE. AND WE'RE PARTICULARLY CONCERNED ABOUT SOME PEOPLE THAT HAVE SOCIAL FACTORS WHICH EXACERBATE THESE IMPACTS, AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THOSE IN A LITTLE BIT. IT'S A VERY TYPICAL, DIFFICULT TOPIC. I'M PARTICULARLY JUST TRYING TO FIND A STARTING POINT. UH, THERE ARE MANY COMPLEXITIES AROUND THE, UH, IMPLICATIONS OF EXTREME TEMPERATURES ON OUR VULNERABLE POPULATIONS. AND SO OF COURSE, OUR FIRST STEP WAS TO TRY TO FIND SOME METRICS, UM, AROUND WHICH WE COULD, UH, EVALUATE AND TREND THESE SORTS OF IMPACTS. UNFORTUNATELY, THOSE NUMBERS DON'T REALLY EXIST. UM, THERE ISN'T A GOOD SET OF NUMBERS WHEN WE LOOK TO THINGS LIKE A PRE-HOSPITAL CARE REPORT THAT A PARAMEDIC MIGHT FILL OUT OR EVEN THAT INTAKE FORM AT THE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT. WHILE THERE ARE CHECK BOXES FOR THINGS LIKE ENVIRONMENT, IT'S NOT REFERENCING THINGS LIKE THE ACTUAL WEATHER ENVIRONMENT. IT'S MORE OF LIKE WHETHER TOXIC SUBSTANCES AROUND. WE DO HAVE, UH, SOME STARTING POINTS AROUND GETTING SOME NUMBERS, PRIMARILY, UH, THROUGH OUR SAFE TEAM INTERACTIONS, BASIC LIFE SUPPORT AND ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT. AND AS I STATED, THE HOSPITALS WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS GETTING A BETTER HANDLE ON THE WAY IN WHICH WE COLLECT THOSE DATA AND UTILIZE THOSE FOR TRENDING. UM, WHAT'S IMPORTANT THOUGH IS THAT WE DON'T JUST LOOK TO THE OBVIOUS TRADITIONAL IMPACTS FROM EXTREME TEMPERATURES SUCH AS, UH, HYPOTHERMIA. UH, WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE EXTREME MENTAL HEALTH IMPACTS UPON COMMUNITIES, PARTICULARLY WITH PROTRACTED EXTREME TEMPERATURE EVENTS. AND WHEN WE LOOK AT THE THREAT, THE BIG QUESTION IS WHAT IS EXTREME? AND THERE ARE SOME, UM, SOME INFORMATION THAT WE CAN UTILIZE FROM THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE AND FROM SOME OTHER PARTNERS IN TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THESE IMPACTS ARE AND WHAT IS IN FACT A VERY HIGH RISK FOR OUR COMMUNITY. UM, HERE I'LL BE LEANING ON A GRAPHIC THAT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PUT TOGETHER. YOU'LL NOTICE IT'S FROM NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE, SAN DIEGO. THEY HAD THE BEST GRAPHIC, SO I WENT WITH IT IN LIEU OF SOMETHING, UH, MORE LOCALIZED, BUT NOT AS, UH, AS, AS WELL DEVELOPED. AND WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS AN EXPLANATION OF THE HEAT RISK PRODUCT. UM, HEAT RISK IS, UH, IS A NEWER, UM, DEVELOPMENT AS FAR AS PRODUCTS GO FROM NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE. AND WHAT YOU MIGHT BE FAMILIAR WITH IS THE HEAT INDEX, WHICH I'LL SPEAK TO IN A MOMENT. UH, PLEASE DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE LOWER RIGHT HAND CORNER OF THE GRAPHIC WHERE YOU'LL SEE, UM, THE INDICATORS, UH, COLOR BASED INDICATORS OF RISK LEVELS WITH GREEN BEING NO RISK, AND, UH, RED BEING HIGH RISK. AS WITH MANY OTHER EMERGENCIES, UM, AND QUALIFICATIONS OF EMERGENCIES SUCH AS WILDFIRE, A NEW CATEGORY HAS HAD TO BE ADDED, WHICH IS THIS PURPLE, VERY HIGH RISK. UM, AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE MOST CONCERNED ABOUT WHEN WE CONSIDER IMPACTS ON OUR VULNERABLE POPULATIONS. TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT EXTREME EXTREMES, UM, THIS IS A, A VERY, UM, TROUBLING GRAPH. AND THIS WAS GENERATED, UH, TO REPRESENT 2023 HEAT ASSOCIATED DEATHS. UM, AND THESE ARE FATALITIES THAT ARE, UM, KNOWN TO HAVE BEEN HEAT CAUSED OR ARE UNDER INVESTIGATION FOR HAVING BEEN HEAT CAUSED. AND WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE GRAPH IS THAT THERE ARE A GROWING NUMBER OF THESE, UM, GRAY UNDER INVESTIGATION CASES, UH, WHERE THE SYSTEM ISN'T ABLE TO QUITE DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT, UH, THE, THE DEATH WAS DIRECTLY RELATED TO HEAT OR WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS SOME OTHER, UM, PRE UH, PREVIOUSLY EXISTING CONDITION. UH, NOW THESE NUMBERS ARE FROM MARICOPA COUNTY, ARIZONA, SO I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT QUALIFICATION WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE IMPACTS. HOWEVER, WE KNOW THAT THE TEMPERATURES THERE WERE A LOT DIFFERENT 10 AND 20 YEARS AGO, SO WE NEED TO LOOK FORWARD 10 TO 20 YEARS AS TO WHAT MIGHT IMPACT SOUTH SONOMA COUNTY AND PETALUMA. [00:10:02] HERE'S A REPRESENTATION OF THE HEAT RISK. UM, ON A GEOSPATIAL LAYOUT, THERE'S AN OVERLAY OF THE HEAT RISK, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN SEE THE, UM, THE NORTH BAY AREA THERE. AND GENERALLY, UH, WE ENJOY A MUCH MORE MILD CLIMATE THAN INLAND AREAS. THE HEAT RISK PROTOTYPE, HOWEVER, HAS MANY FLAWS IN IT. WHEN WE USE THIS TO ASSESS HUMAN IMPACTS, NOT LEAST OF WHICH IS THAT THE HEAT RISK, UH, IS IMPACTING THE INDIVIDUAL IN THE SHADE, WHEREAS OTHER THINGS LIKE WET BULB TEMPERATURES, WET BALL, GLOBAL TEMPERATURES ASSESS THOSE HEAT IMPACTS FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE SUN. AGAIN, WE ARE MOST VULNERABLE. OUR MOST VULNERABLE POPULATIONS ARE OFTENTIMES, UH, EXPOSED AND DO NOT HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF OBTAINING SHADE DURING THE WORST PARTS OF THE TEMPERATURE. THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HAS SOME OTHER MORE STANDARD PRODUCTS THAT WE'RE FAMILIAR WITH, LIKELY THE WATCH, WARNING AND ADVISORY. UM, I'VE PROVIDED SOME, UH, CURSORY DEFINITIONS HERE, BUT, UH, THE IDEA IS THAT A WATCH IS USED WHEN THERE IS A RISK THAT'S INCREASING. BUT THE INS, THERE'S A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY AROUND ITS OCCURRENCE. UM, WHEN AN ADVISORY OCCURS, UH, THAT IS WHEN THERE IS IMMINENT OR LIKELY IMPACTS, AND A WARNING IS ISSUED WHEN HAZARDOUS WEATHER OR HYDROLOGICAL EVENTS OCCURRING ARE, ARE LIKELY, AND WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A THREAT TO LIFE OR PROPERTY. YOU'LL NOTE THAT THE WATCH WARNING AND ADVISORY SUBTITLE IS IN THAT ORDER, AND I PRESENTED IN A SEPARATE ORDER OF WATCH ADVISORY AND WARNING. UH, THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LAYS THOSE OUT. UM, THERE ARE OTHER FACTORS ASIDE FROM JUST EXTREME TEMPERATURES, NOT LEAST OF WHICH IS OUR DEEP CONCERN FOR CONCURRENT PROTRACTED GRID DERGS, UM, DUE TO WIDESPREAD DEMAND SYSTEM MALFUNCTIONS OR A PLANNED PUBLIC SAFETY POWER SHUTOFF, WHERE PERHAPS THE THE TURN BACK ON, UH, WASN'T AS EFFECTIVE AS POSSIBLE. OBVIOUSLY, THESE, UH, FACTORS, UM, ARE PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT FOR OUR HOUSED, BUT SENIOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT MIGHT DEPEND ON HOME HEATING OR HOME COOLING SYSTEMS TO COPE WITH EXTREME TEMPERATURES. PETALUMA IS FAR AND BEYOND THE MOST ADVANCED MUNICIPALITY IN THE COUNTY, AND THE WAYS IN WHICH WE ASSESS IMPACTS OF EXTREME TEMPERATURES. UM, MOST OF OUR COUNTERPARTS, UH, LOOK AT DATA SETS. THEY WANT TO KNOW THE OVERNIGHT LOW, FOR INSTANCE, IN THE HIGH TEMPERATURE TIMES, WHAT ARE THE OVERNIGHT LOWS? DO THE OVERNIGHT LOWS GET LOW ENOUGH WHERE THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS CAN RECOVER FROM THOSE HIGH HEATS DURING THE DAYS? UM, AND THERE'S SYSTEMS WHERE YOU CAN TREND THAT OVER THREE DAYS AND MAKE DETERMINATIONS ON WHAT YOU'RE ACTIVATING. AS FAR AS RESOURCES GO BASED ON THOSE DATA ALONE, WE GO BEYOND THOSE DATA. WE ALSO HAVE PEOPLE OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY, UH, WHERE THEY'RE AT, NOT LEAST OF, WHICH IS OUR, UM, PARTNERS WITH, UM, THE PETALUMA PEOPLE SERVICE CENTER WHO WORK WITH OVER 27,000 PETALUMA RESIDENTS. UM, A LOT OF THAT WORK IS DONE THROUGH CONTACTS IN THE FIELD THAT ARE DONE BY OUR SAFE TEAM. UM, THERE'S ALSO CERTAINLY, UM, A TREMENDOUS ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT, BASIC LIFE SUPPORT PRESENCE THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS. OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS ARE OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY, AND THEY ARE GOING TO THE LOCATIONS WHERE THEY KNOW THERE ARE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT MIGHT BE MORE VULNERABLE. WE'RE ABLE TO DEFER SOME FOLKS TO, UM, LOCATIONS WHERE THEY MIGHT FIND SOME RELIEF FROM EXTREME TEMPERATURES, NOT LEAST OF WHICH IS THE CO COTS MARY ISAAC RESOURCE. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE TRAINED OBSERVERS THAT ARE PARTNERS AT THE HOSPITAL. SO AS AN INCREASE IN EXTREME TEMPERATURE, PERCEIVED EXTREME TEMPERATURE ADMITTANCES OCCUR, UM, WE'RE ABLE TO DO SUCH THINGS AS CONSIDER ALTERNATIVE RESOURCES FOR, UM, FOR DIVERTING SOME OF THOSE CLIENTS FROM THE HOSPITAL TO A LESSER LEVEL, UM, WHERE THEY MIGHT JUST FIND THAT REPRIEVE FROM THE EXTREME TEMPERATURE AS OPPOSED TO HOLDING UP A SPACE IN THE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT. UM, RESPONSE PLANS. PLANNING IS OBVIOUSLY A VERY IMPORTANT PROCESS, AND OFTENTIMES PLANNERS WILL SAY THAT THAT PROCESS IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE PLANS THAT THE PLANNING GENERATES. WHAT THIS MEANS FOR US IS BUILDING CONSENSUS WITH OUR PARTNERS. I'VE TAKEN A QUOTE HERE, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL SAY IT WRONG ON PURPOSE. THE PURPOSE OF LIFE IS TO SERVE AND TO SHOW COMPASSION AND THE WILL TO HELP OTHERS. ONLY THEN HAVE WE BECOME TRUE DISASTER SERVICE WORKERS. AND AS YOU'RE ALL AWARE, EVERY EMPLOYEE OF THE CITY OF PETALUMA IS A DISASTER SERVICE WORKER. AND TRULY, UM, MOST OF US, I'VE FOUND ARE HERE TO SERVE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. UH, THERE ARE OBVIOUSLY DIFFERENT TYPES OF PLANNING THAT OCCUR. THERE'S A STRATEGIC LEVEL OF PLANNING, OPERATIONAL AND TACTICAL PLANNING, MORE OF A CHECKLIST TYPE OF THING. I'VE DEMONSTRATED HERE SOME OF THE PLANNING TOOLS THAT ARE UTILIZED, UM, NOT LEAST OF WHICH YOU'LL SEE THE GRAPHIC THAT LOOKS LIKE A P THAT'S THE PLANNING P IT'S UTILIZED IN THE, UH, STANDUP OF AN INCIDENT RESPONSE. AND WHAT'S, UH, TERRIFIC ABOUT THE PLANNING P I'LL SPEAK TO THIS IN A MOMENT, IS THAT IT'S AN ALL HAZARDS APPROACH. THIS PROCESS [00:15:01] CAN BE UTILIZED FOR AN EARTHQUAKE, UH, FOR EXTREME TEMPERATURES AND ANYTHING IN THE TWAIN. UH, THERE'S ALSO PLANNING PROCESSES TO DEVELOP PLANNING DOCUMENTS, AND I'VE GOT HERE A STEP-BY-STEP FOR WHAT'S CALLED C P G 1 0 1, WHICH IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING GUIDE, WHICH FEMA RECOMMEND RECOMMENDS WHEN DEVELOPING PLANS SUCH AS AN EMERGENCY OPERATIONS PLAN OR AS YOU SEE ON THE FAR RIGHT AND ANNEX TO AN EMERGENCY OPERATIONS PLAN. WHAT YOU SEE THERE IS THE SONOMA COUNTY OPERATIONAL AREA EMERGENCY OPERATIONS PLAN ANNEX FOR EXTREME TEMPERATURE INCIDENTS, AND THAT'S DATED JUNE, 2023. UM, OUR PREPAREDNESS AND RESPONSE PROCESS INVOLVES TRYING TO GET UPSTREAM FROM THESE INCIDENTS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. WHEN WE SEE A NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PRODUCT INDICATING THAT THERE ARE EXTREME TEMPERATURES, WE INITIATE OUR INTERNAL PROCESS, UH, NOT LEAST OF WHICH IS PROVIDING SITUATION REPORTS TO STAFF, WHICH HAVE RESPONSIBILITIES GERMANE TO EXTREME TEMPERATURE RESPONSE. AN EXAMPLE OF ONE OF THOSE SITUATION REPORTS IS ON THE LOWER LEFT HAND SIDE THERE, UM, IN REAL TIME, WE ESTABLISH GO NO-GO CRITERIA FOR THINGS LIKE THE OPENING OF A COOLING CENTER, AND WE TRACK THOSE ON, UM, ON A LINEAR MATTER. YOU'LL NOTICE HERE THAT THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT KIND OF, UH, TIMEFRAMES THAT ARE SHOWN, UM, AND ONE WE HAVE ON THE LEFT IN THE SITUATION REPORT. AND THE OTHER IS IN OUR DECISION PROCESS. WHAT'S KEY HERE IS THAT WE ARE UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE'S DATA TRACKING WHICH CAN OCCUR, AND THAT SITUATIONS CAN CHANGE. A SLIGHT CHANGE IN THE GRAPHIC, UH, WILL SHOW YOU THAT AS WE MOVE THROUGH AN EXTREME TEMPERATURE INSTANCE, THEN WE HAVE, UH, KIND OF LOOKING AT IT ON THE BACKEND. ONE OF THE IMPORTANT REASONS FOR USING THIS, THIS DATA TRENDING OVER TIME IS THAT IT ALLOWS FOR STAFF THAT MIGHT BE WALKING INTO A RESPONSE, UM, AFTER THE WEEKEND, UM, TO SEE KIND OF WHAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING WHILE THEY WERE GONE. AND THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT PROCESS TO KEEP CONTINUITY AMONGST OUR OPERATIONS AND CONSISTENCY IN OUR APPROACH TOWARDS MEETING THESE IMPORTANT GOALS. ON THE LOWER RIGHT HAND SIDE, I HAVE A DEMONSTRATION OF A TOOL THAT WE'VE DEVELOPED IN-HOUSE. AND, UM, THAT TOOL THAT WE DEVELOPED IN-HOUSE, AS YOU SEE, IS A TABLE WHICH WE CAN UTILIZE FOR THE PURPOSE OF TRACKING THOSE DATA, WHICH ARE RECOMMENDED IN PLANNING PRODUCTS SUCH AS THE, UH, COUNTY EMERGENCY OPERATIONS PLAN ANNEX. AND AS I CITED EARLIER, ONE OF THOSE IS TRENDING DATA AROUND TEMPERATURES AND OVERNIGHT TEMPERATURES, FINDING WHERE THOSE OVERNIGHT LOWS ARE NOT REACHING THE POINT WHERE PEOPLE CAN RECOVER AND USING THAT AS ONE OF THE DATA POINTS TO INFORM ACTION FROM THE CITY. ONE OF OUR KEY RESOURCES, UM, AHEAD OF THE INCIDENT AND DURING THE INCIDENT IS OUR CAPABILITY TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMUNICATION. UH, MY POSITION, AS I CITED, IS A NEW POSITION WITH THE CITY. ANOTHER NEW POSITION THAT WE HAVE IS OUR COMMUNICATIONS MANAGER AND OUR COMMUNICATIONS MANAGER HAS PROVEN TO BE EXTREMELY ADROIT WITH UTILIZING THESE DIFFERENT GRAPHICS OF FEW, OF WHICH I'VE SHOWN AS EXAMPLES HERE IN THE PRESENTATION. UM, A BIG PART OF OUR PUBLIC MESSAGING IS NOT THAT THE RECIPIENT OF THIS MESSAGE IS WHERE THE MESSAGE STOPS. MANY OF US WHO SEE THESE MESSAGES MIGHT FIND THAT WHILE THEY DON'T APPLY DIRECTLY TO US AND OUR MEDICAL CONDITIONS, THAT WE HAVE OTHERS IN OUR LIFE THAT WE CARE ABOUT, FAMILY, FRIENDS, OR MAYBE JUST SOMEBODY THAT YOU PASS ON THE STREET THAT MIGHT BE EXHIBITING SYMPTOMS OF A HEAT-RELATED ILLNESS. SO OUR MESSAGE IS TO TAKE WHAT YOU SEE AND TO THINK ABOUT THOSE IN YOUR LIFE THAT MIGHT HAVE SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES WHICH REQUIRE MORE ATTENTION TO THESE EXTREME TEMPERATURES, AND TO GO AND CHECK ON THOSE PEOPLE TO ACTIVELY, UM, TO, TO LOOK OUT FOR EACH OTHER. ASIDE FROM THE MESSAGING THAT WE DO ABOUT, UM, GENERAL HEAT SAFETY OR TEMPERATURE SAFETY, RATHER, WE ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO PUT OUT REAL TIME COMMUNITY MESSAGES VIS-A-VIS THE NICKEL SYSTEM, UH, WHICH WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST. UM, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ASSESSING IMPACTS, AS I STATED, OUR NUMBER ONE RESOURCES, THE STAFF THAT ARE OUT THERE IN THE FIELD, THAT KNOW THE LOCATIONS WHERE VULNERABLE COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE AND THAT GO AND, AND, AND ACTIVELY CHECK THOSE LOCATIONS AND THEN REFER THOSE THAT NEED RESOURCES TO THOSE RESOURCES. WE HAVE OTHER DATA SETS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. I MENTIONED THE, UM, WET BULB GLOBE TEMPERATURE, WHICH IS I THINK MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE HEAT INDEX INDEX RATHER. UM, WE'VE GOT A SYSTEM CALLED IMAGE TREND THAT LOOKS AT DIFFERENT CALLS THAT OUR PARAMEDICS AND, UM, BASIC LIFE SUPPORT EMTS GO OUT ON. UM, WE'VE GOT SOME DATA COLLECTION, UH, DOWN HERE AT THE LOWER LEFT I SHOWED YOU. AND, AND THIS IS A POLL THAT'S CONDUCTED THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE COUNTY OR OPERATIONAL AREA ON WHAT EXTREME TEMPERATURE RESPONSES EACH MUNICIPALITY HAS HAD. AND, UM, WHAT'S NICE IS THAT IF YOU SEE ON THE LOWER RIGHT HAND CORNER, UH, OR LO PARDON ME, LOWER LEFT HAND CORNER, THAT THERE IS A, UM, A NEW FORM THAT, UH, WE CAN FILL OUT AND IT MAKES THIS PROCESS OF REPORTING UP A LOT EASIER. UH, WE HAVE HAD CONVERSATION [00:20:01] AS THE CITY OF PETALUMA WITH THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE OF EMERGENCY SERVICES ABOUT THEM DOING A SIMILAR PROCESS THROUGHOUT THE COASTAL REGION AND PERHAPS THROUGHOUT THE STATE SO THAT WE CAN, AGAIN, FIND MORE DATA POINTS ON WHICH WE CAN BASE DECISIONS. OUR PLAN DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, UM, HAS BEEN VERY MUCH IN-HOUSE AND WHILE WE LOOK AT PRODUCTS THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED BY OUR COUNTERPARTS, UH, PARTICULARLY WITH THE COUNTY AND DEEP APPRECIATION FOR THE RESOURCES THAT THEY HAVE, UH, NOT LEAST OF WE, NOT LEAST OF WHICH VIS-A-VIS, UH, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. UM, WHAT WE ALSO NEED TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE'RE DEVELOPING IS A LOCAL PLAN FOR OUR LOCAL PURPOSES WITH OUR PRIORITIES. SO, UM, WHAT YOU WILL NOT FIND, UM, IN OUR EFFORT IS, UH, UNFORTUNATELY WHAT CAN BE COMMONPLACE, WHERE YOU WOULD TAKE AN EXTREME TEMPERATURE INCIDENTS, UH, EMERGENCY OPERATIONS PLAN ANNEX SUCH AS THIS. YOU OPEN IT UP IN A WORD PROCESSOR, UH, CONTROL F FOR FIND, UM, AND TAKE SONOMA COUNTY AND PUT IN CITY OF PETALUMA, DUST IT OFF CUP OF COFFEE. WE'VE GOT A PLAN. THAT'S NOT THE APPROACH. AND UNFORTUNATELY, THERE IS SOME OF THAT OUT THERE. HOWEVER, AS I STATED EARLIER, WE'RE USING A LOT OF OUR PETALUMA WAY TO DO THIS IN THE MOST APPROPRIATE MANNER POSSIBLE, AND I EXPECT THAT WE'LL FIND SOME OTHER MUNICIPALITIES FOLLOWING SUIT IN THE NEAR FUTURE. A LITTLE BIT OF A QUICK STORY IF YOU'LL PERMIT. I'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF COMMUNICATION WITH OUR PARTNERS, COMMUNITY-BASED ORGANIZATIONS, OUR FIELD STAFF, ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS TO DO AN APPROPRIATE RESPONSE FOR AN INDIVIDUAL THAT'S EXPERIENCING SOME HEAT RELATED DISTRESS. ONE OF THE GREAT ANALOGIES THAT I HEARD WAS FROM OUR I RIDE TEAM THROUGH THE PETALUMA PEOPLE SERVICE CENTER, AND THEY SAID, IF YOU THINK IT'S TOO HOT TO PUT YOUR DOG IN THE CAR, IT'S TOO HOT TO PUT YOUR GRANDMOTHER IN THE CAR, MAYBE GOING TO A COOLING CENTER OR SOMEWHERE ELSE LIKE THAT. UM, WE THINK THAT THERE'S A MUCH BETTER MODEL AND DISTRIBUTED LOCALIZED, UH, SYSTEMS, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE EXPERIENCING TEMPERATURE RELATED IMPACTS AND ILLNESSES TO, UH, MITIGATE THOSE WHERE THEY'RE AT, UM, AS OPPOSED TO TRAVELING DURING THE HOTTEST PART OF THE DAY TO GO TO SOME LOCATION AND THEN BE AWAY FROM THEIR GENERAL SET OF SERVICES, THEIR MEDICATIONS, THEIR DURABLE MEDICAL GOODS, UH, FAMILY MEMBERS AND COMMUNITY. I HAVE A QUICK STORY ABOUT THAT. PLEASE USE YOUR MIND'S EYE. THE TEMPERATURES HAVE BEEN STEADILY INCREASING OVER THE PAST FEW DAYS, AND NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PRODUCTS INDICATE POTENTIAL FOR EXTREME HEAT OVER THE HOLIDAY WEEKEND. CITY STAFF AND COMMUNITY-BASED ORGANIZATION PARTNERS HAVE BEEN ASSESSING POTENTIAL IMPACTS AND RESPONSE RESOURCES FOR THE WEEKEND. I CITED THIS AS A HOLIDAY WEEKEND, AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE FACE AS A CHALLENGE FROM A STAFFING PERSPECTIVE IS THAT MANY OF OUR STAFF UTILIZE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES TO GO OUT WITH FRIENDS AND FAMILY ON THE EXTENDED WEEKEND, UH, WHICH MEANS THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER HOW WE CAN DO STAFFING FOR THAT. AS THE WORST OF THE HEAT BEARS DOWN. WE FIND THAT ABUELA'S COMMUNITY MEMBERS, HER FAMILY, HER NEIGHBORS HAVE BEEN GOING IN TO CHECK ON HER, THEY'VE NOTICED THAT SHE'S GETTING WARMER AND THAT HER HOUSE DOESN'T HAVE EITHER ADEQUATE INSULATION OR AIR CONDITIONING. UM, THEY'VE BEEN, UH, VISITING HER. THEY'VE BEEN, UM, HELPING WITH COOLING SUPPLIES AND, UH, AND THROUGH THE WORST OF THE HEAT AS IT TURNS OUT, BY STAYING AT HOME, BY UTILIZING THINGS SUCH AS COOL RUNNING WATER, UH, FANS AND SOME BASIC HEAT MITIGATION PROCESSES, UM, THAT SHE HAS NOW FOUND HERSELF TO BE IN A MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE AND SAFE CIRCUMSTANCE, UM, THAN OUT TRAVELING IN THE WEATHER. SO THIS IS A CULMINATION OF HER FAMILY MEMBERS RECEIVING ALL THE COMMUNITY MESSAGING THAT'S OCCURRED. IT'S, UH, PART OF HER UNDERSTANDING THROUGH HER SENIOR NETWORKS AND OUR PARTNERS WITH THE SENIOR CENTER AND OTHER SENIOR OUTREACH MODALITIES, UM, THAT THIS WAS REALLY THE BEST PROCESS FOR HER. IN SUMMARY, UH, THE CITY OF PETALUMA IS DEEPLY COMMITTED TO REDUCING HARM FROM EXTREME TEMPERATURE WEATHER SYSTEMS ON OUR MOST VULNERABLE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THROUGH PARTNERSHIPS WITHIN AND OUTSIDE OF THE CITY. WE'LL CONTINUE TO DEVELOP A THOUGHTFUL APPROACH TO THIS ASPECT OF OUR CHANGE IN CLIMATE. I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME, UH, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, AT THIS POINT I'M OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. DOES ANYONE HAVE A QUESTION FOR OUR, UM, OUR EMERGENCY MATTER TONIGHT? UH, COUNCIL MEMBER NOW? UM, WE ACTUALLY DID HAVE THAT SCENARIO WITH THE HOLIDAY WEEKEND, AND WE HAD A LOT OF, UM, ELDERLY IN THE, IN MY DISTRICT, THE LITTLE WOODS MOBILE HOME, UM, WHICH ARE ELDERLY AND THEIR HOMES ARE NOT ADEQUATELY INSULATED FOR THE COOLING, AND THEY DON'T HAVE THE COOLING AIR CONDITIONERS. SO, UM, THEY WERE TOLD TO GO TO COTS AND THEIR RELATIVES WERE LIKE, [00:25:01] NO, THAT'S NOT A GOOD PLACE. THIS IS AN ELDERLY MOTHER WHO, UM, UNFORTUNATELY BECAUSE IT WAS A HOLIDAY WEEKEND, UM, THE SENIOR CENTER ISN'T OPEN ON FRIDAYS AND THE, UM, LIBRARY IS NOT. AND THEN SUNDAYS, OF COURSE, THE LIBRARY'S NOT. SO WE DID FIND WE GOT HER SOME FANS, WE GOT HER SOME THINGS, BUT IT WAS REALLY SCARY FOR A WHILE, UM, BECAUSE THAT I DIDN'T KNOW WHO ELSE WAS IN DIRE STRAITS THAT WEEKEND. WHAT CAN WE DO TO PREVENT THIS? WHAT CAN WE DO FOR THE ELDERLY? BECAUSE ASKING THEM TO GO TO COTS IS NOT A SOLUTION. I WOULD AGREE. ABSOLUTELY, MA'AM. THANK YOU. YES, CERTAINLY. UM, BEFORE I TALK TO WHAT WE CAN DO IN THE MOMENT IN RESPONSE, I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT OUR EFFORTS AROUND THE PREPAREDNESS EFFORT. UM, THIS IS REALLY THE TIME TO ADDRESS THE OPPORTUNITIES, UH, TO MITIGATE THESE HEAT RELATED OR COOLED RELATED INJURIES. UM, WE, UH, RECENTLY PARTNERED THE CITY, RECENTLY PARTNERED, UM, WITH SOME WONDERFUL PRESENTERS, UM, THAT FOCUS ON DELIVERING PREPAREDNESS MESSAGING BY SENIORS FOR SENIORS WHERE SENIORS ARE AT NOT LEAST OF WHICH, IN MOBILE HOME COMMUNITIES AS YOU CITE. I THINK THAT WHEN WE ARE ABLE TO GET AHEAD OF THESE, UM, POTENTIAL PROBLEMS WITH THROUGH EDUCATION, WE DO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MITIGATE IN A MUCH MORE, UH, EXPEDITIOUS, FRANKLY, AND ALSO EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT WAY. UM, THAT SAID, OBVIOUSLY THE PREPAREDNESS MESSAGE CANNOT GET TO EVERYBODY. WE ARE, WE'RE, WE'RE TRIPLING OUR EFFORTS ON GETTING THAT OUT MORE. UM, I THINK THAT MY POSITION PORTENDS AN ABILITY FOR US TO DO MORE OF THAT SORT OF MESSAGING. BUT TO YOUR DIRECT QUESTION, QUESTION ABOUT IN THE RESPONSE, IT IS A BIG ISSUE, I THINK THAT WE'LL FIND THERE IS A LOT, THERE ARE A LOT OF MODELS AROUND DISTRIBUTED, UH, COOLING AND HEATING OPPORTUNITIES, AND SOME OF THOSE INCLUDE USING AUSTERE CONDITIONS. I I WOULD ALSO CITE THE NECESSITY FOR OUR ATTENTION TO THE MOBILE HOME, MOBILE HOME COMMUNITIES FOR THE EXTREME COLD, BECAUSE OFTENTIMES WHAT HAPPENS, THEY SEEK AUSTERE CONDITIONS AND CIRCUMSTANCES IN WHICH TO WARM THE HOME. AND SOMETIMES THOSE ARE UTILIZING THINGS THAT ARE INTENDED FOR OUTDOOR USE. OUR FIRE MARSHAL COULD GIVE YOU A VERY, VERY SOBERING, UM, SPEECH ON THE, UM, HOW THAT, HOW THAT UNFOLDS, AND IT CAN BE VERY UNFORTUNATE. SO I WOULD SAY THAT, UM, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY HERE. UH, THERE ARE AVENUES FOR WHICH THOSE COMMUNITY MEMBERS CAN REACH OUT. I DID IN MY PRESENTATION, USE THE, THE LABOR DAY WEEKEND, BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY, THAT'S REALLY A, A TOUGH, A TOUGH QUESTION BECAUSE AS YOU CITED, A LOT OF THE PUBLIC VENUE COOLING TYPE, UH, CENTERS ARE NOT AVAILABLE. SO, UM, AGAIN, I THINK THAT THROUGH OUR ADVANCE WORK IN PREPAREDNESS AND DOING MORE OF THAT, AND NOT JUST THE PREPAREDNESS MESSAGE, BUT PROVIDING THE TOOLS THAT INDIVIDUALS NEED IN THE MOMENT SUCH AS COOLING PACKS, THE WATER, UM, FANS AND WHATNOT, IS, IS GOING TO BE CRITICAL, UM, MOVING FORWARD. I THINK THAT WE CAN DO A LOT MORE IN THAT SPACE AND WE INTEND TO, UM, THANK YOU. IT WAS 4TH OF JULY WEEKEND. OH, I'M SORRY. I WAS, I WAS REWINDING TO LAST YEAR, LAST LABOR DAY WHEN WE REALLY, YEAH, I THANK YOU. I, UM, BUT 4TH OF JULY AND WE KNEW THE TEMPERATURE WAS GONNA GO UP. I MEAN, THE WEATHER REPORT SAID THAT, AND THEN I WAS TOLD THAT THE COUNTY TELLS US WHEN WE, UM, KICK IT INTO GO MODE, AND THAT'S WHEN I FOUND OUT THE SENIOR CENTER'S NOT OPEN ON FRIDAYS FOR THE ELDERLY. IF I MIGHT, YES, MA'AM. JUST TO ADD ON TO MY RESPONSE, THE, THE, UM, THOSE ARE THE METRICS THAT ARE PROVIDED BY THE COUNTY ARE THE ONES THAT I SIDED WITH THE OVERNIGHT LOWS AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. THOSE SUPPLEMENT OUR OWN. WE REALLY THINK THAT HAVING PEOPLE OUT, OUT THERE GOING TO OUR VULNERABLE POPULATIONS WHERE THEY'RE AT IS A MUCH BETTER PROCESS THAN UTILIZING THE DATA SETS. UH, HOWEVER, THOSE DATA SETS DO HAVE EXTREME VALUE ON THE BASIS THAT THOSE HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICER. UM, SO THAT THEY ARE A VERY LINKED CRITERIA AS FAR AS LOOKING AT DOING CERTAIN THINGS. UM, BUT IT IS, IT IS A GROWING RESPONSE AND WE HAVE A EVOLVING APPROACH TOWARDS IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. COUNCILWOMAN, UH, VICE MAYOR KATE THOMPSON. UM, JUST QUICKLY, UM, WITH THE MOBILE HOME PARKS, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT LITTLE WOODS, BUT THEY HAVE, UM, COMMUNITY CENTERS, SO I'M ASSUMING THAT WE WOULD BE HOPEFULLY WORKING WITH WITHIN THE PARK SO THEY HAVE A SPACE TO GO, UM, IF THEY DON'T HAVE AIR CONDITIONING. YEAH. YES. AND IT'S, YEAH. YES. AND THERE'S, I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA SHOW ANY CAR. THERE'S A LOT MORE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING TOWARDS LOOKING AT THIS, UH, DISTRIBUTED MI MICRO CONSOLIDATION, IF YOU WILL, OF, OF RESOURCE AVAILABILITY. THERE'S A LOT MORE THAT WE'RE GONNA BE DOING IN THAT SPACE. GREAT. AND THANKS FOR THIS PRESENTATION, 'CAUSE IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER REBS. HEY, HAVING, UH, [00:30:01] EXPERIENCED, UH, HEAT EXHAUSTION A FEW TIMES, IT, IT COMES ON FAST AND YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING. SO THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO, UH, MAKE SURE THE COMMUNITY IS AWARE. SO THE COUPLE QUESTIONS, UM, UH, FIRST, WHEN REFERRING TO THE, UH, HEALTH DATA, I KNOW FROM, UH, THE PAST COUPLE HEAT WAVES THAT WE'VE HAD UP NORTH OREGON, WASHINGTON, UM, THERE'S LOTS OF, UH, HEAT RELATED INSTANCES, BUT THEY NEVER GET RELATED AS HEAT BASED, BUT AS, UH, HEART ATTACKS, STROKES, WHATEVER, BUT IT, THAT IS INDICATING HOT DAYS TEND TO BE THAT WAY. UH, SO LOCALLY, ARE WE GONNA BE WORKING WITH OUR LOCAL HEALTH COMMUNITY HERE AND MAKING SURE THAT THE DATA THEY COLLECT MATCHING UP WITH TEMPERATURE? ARE WE GONNA MAKE SURE THAT WE START RECORDING THOSE DAYS? THAT, UM, AND DOING SOME COMPARISON, COLLECTING THAT DATA? IS THAT GONNA BE AN ACTIVE PROCESS BY OUR HEALTH COMMUNITY? BOTH, BOTH OF THOSE, YES. CERTAINLY LOOKING AT OVERLAYING DATA WITHOUT NECESSITATING, UH, A DIRECT ATTRIBUTION, WE SAW A LOT OF THAT, CERTAINLY WITH THE COVID AND THE EARLY COVID DAYS OF REALIZING THAT THE TRENDING, UH, THE TRENDING OF FATALITIES, UM, WHETHER OR NOT THOSE WERE, WERE, WERE ASSIGNED BY ANY GIVEN PRACTITIONER AS BEING COVID RELATED OR NOT, WE NEEDED TO TREND THOSE DATA. UM, SO WE'LL CERTAINLY BE LOOKING AT, UH, NOT JUST FATALITIES, BUT, BUT INJURIES. ONE OF THE WAYS IN WHICH WE'RE GONNA DO THAT TO YOUR OTHER POINT IS TO WORK WITH, UH, THE HOSPITAL CLINICS AND, UH, HOPEFULLY, UM, OUR OWN PRACTITIONERS SUCH AS THE SAFE TEAM MEMBERS, TO FIND WAYS IN WHICH WE CAN, UH, CARVE OUT THOSE INJURIES, WHICH WE KNOW TO BE, HAVE BEEN EXACERBATED BY. AND THERE ARE GOING TO BE CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE, UH, VERY, UM, PRONOUNCED PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS. UH, HOWEVER THOSE ARE, WE'RE STILL GONNA LOOK AT THOSE AS HEAT OR, OR COLD RELATED, UM, INJURIES. GOOD. AND THEN WHEN, UH, UM, AS A TEACHER, I REMEMBER, UH, WE GOT, UM, LECTURES AND SEMINARS ABOUT CERTAIN THINGS. HEAT WAS ONE OF THEM. LOTS OF BEHAVIOR CHANGES OCCUR ON HOT DAYS AND THE LIKE. UH, SO WE KNOW LOTS OF DATA SUPPORTS THAT. UM, BUT TALKING ABOUT SCHOOLS AND HEAT IN GENERAL AND OTHER THINGS, UM, SINCE WE HAVE CERTAIN, UM, ASPHALT AT SCHOOLS AS WELL AS THE ARTIFICIAL T WE HAVE HEAT ISLANDS, UH, EFFECT IN HERE. AND, UM, SO OSHA TENDS TO GO TO WORKERS AND THINGS, OSHA RULES. BUT, UH, CAN WE, UM, MOVE FORWARD ON SOMEHOW GETTING SOME TEMPERATURE READINGS ON THE ASPHALT, UM, AND AT SCHOOLS AND ASTRO A SYNTHETIC TURF IF WE CAN, AND THEN START SETTING UP SOME RULES. OKAY. IF THE TEMPERATURE'S ABOVE SUCH AND SUCH OR, OR THIS LEVEL, UM, HEY, YOU'RE GONNA CLOSE DOWN THAT SPORTS ON THAT PARTICULAR SURFACE, AND, UH, UH, DEPENDING ON WHAT, AND, AND MAYBE SCHOOL SPECIFIC 'CAUSE IT'S THE SIZE OF THE ASPHALT OR THE, UH, TURF. 'CAUSE WE HAVE LOTS OF, UH, SYNTHETIC TURF NOW HERE IN TOWN. SO ARE WE GOING TO START DOING MEASUREMENTS AND ACTUALLY DOING ADVISING SPECIFICALLY TO THE SCHOOLS, UM, FOR THOSE PARTICULAR ISSUES, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE'S LITTLE KIDS INVOLVED. UM, COUNCIL MEMBER SHR, I THINK I'M GONNA JUMP IN HERE. I THINK THIS WOULD BE A TIME THAT WE WOULD BE WORKING WITH P C S WITH THE PETALUMA CITY SCHOOLS AND THE OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO MAKE THOSE CALLS. OKAY, GOOD. JUST, JUST AS, AS A CHECK-IN ON, UH, UH, SPECIFICALLY, UH, PREPARING INDIVIDUAL POPULATIONS, UH, MOBILE HOMES, AND AS WELL AS THE SCHOOLS. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK, THANK YOU. AND JUST ONE ADDITIONAL COMMENT ON THE TEMPERATURES. UH, WHAT TEMPERATURE IS IT RIGHT NOW? WELL, THEY'LL, I'LL TELL YOU , THERE ARE TWO TEMPERATURE SYSTEMS THAT, THAT ARE USED BY NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FOR A PETALUMA. UM, WE'RE GONNA GO ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT. WE'RE GONNA LOOKING AT UTILIZING THE COOL BLOCK SYSTEM AND OTHERS TO FIND SOME OF OUR, OUR, OUR, UH, MINI WEATHER, MY METEOROLOGISTS, IF YOU WILL. WE'RE LOOKING AT GETTING A MUCH MORE BROAD SET OF DATA POINTS, AND AS CITY MANAGER INDICATED, CERTAINLY WORKING WITH SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO FIND WAYS IN WHICH WE CAN GET SUPPLEMENTAL ON, ON THINGS SUCH AS SURFACE TEMPERATURES AND THEN TO MAKE POLICY AROUND THAT. OKAY. GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION AND MOVING ON TO OUR NEXT, UH, EFFORTS FOR THE EVENING. UM, NEXT ON OUR AGENDA NIGHT IS [GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT] GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. UM, I'VE RECEIVED A NUMBER OF CARDS, UH, KIND OF LA LAST CHANCE TO GET YOUR CARD IN ON GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. AND I'D LIKE TO ASK OUR CLERK IF WE'VE RECEIVED ANY FROM, UH, THE PUBLIC ONLINE BEFORE THE MEETING? YES, WE DID RECEIVE FIVE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS, AND THOSE ARE POSTED ONLINE WITH THE AGENDA. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'D LIKE TO CHECK WITH OUR ZOOM AUDIENCE FOR, UH, ANY WISH TO PARTICIPATE. PATE, PLEASE SHARE OUR MESSAGING. THANK YOU, MAYOR. AT THIS TIME, I WILL START A 32ND TIMER. UH, FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING IN PERSON SHOULD BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARDS TO THE CLERK'S DESK, AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED, IF THEY HAVE NOT ALREADY DONE SO, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING ONLINE SHOULD RAISE THEIR VIRTUAL HANDS OR PRESS STAR NINE IF THEY'RE PARTICIPATING BY PHONE. SPEAKERS ARE REMINDER TO BE RESPECTFUL IN THEIR COMMENTS AND THAT THIS MEETING IS BEING TRANSLATED, PLEASE PAUSE BETWEEN [00:35:01] SENTENCES FOR TRANSLATION AND A COUNTDOWN WILL APPEAR FOR THE CONVENIENCE OF THE SPEAKER AND VIEWERS. AND AT THIS TIME, WE HAVE ONE HAND RAISED, UH, WONDERFUL. UM, I, I HAVE, UH, NINE CARDS HERE, AND THAT WOULD MAKE FOR, UH, LET'S SEE YOU DOING THE MATH. UH, NINE CARDS, ZERO, ONE MAKES 10 AND A 20 MINUTE LIMIT. WE'LL GO TO A TWO MINUTE CLOCK FOR TONIGHT. OKAY. AND, UM, LET'S SEE HERE THEN. UM, I'D LIKE TO START WITH OUR IN-HOUSE FOLKS FIRST. AND ISAIAH GONZALEZ, UH, WOULD BE OUR FIRST SPEAKER TONIGHT, FOLLOWED BY PETER CHERIF. AND WE CAN SEE, UH, OUR, OUR, UH, SPEAKER MOVING HER WAY TOWARDS THE FRONT. SO WE'RE GONNA GIVE IT A MOMENT. UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. UM, MY NAME IS SIAH GONZALEZ. UM, I AM HERE TO GIVE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, UH, JUST TO INFORM EVERYONE ABOUT SONOMA COUNTY'S VETERANS ART DAY ON SATURDAY, UM, SEPTEMBER 23RD. I WORK FOR LIFE ON EARTH ART, UM, UNDER THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT UMBRELLA. AND I SPECIFICALLY GO OUT AND ENGAGE, UM, THE VETERAN AND MILITARY COMMUNITY. AND THE PURPOSE OF OUR EVENT IS TO BRING VETERANS TOGETHER AND TO, UM, EXEMPLIFY THEIR WORKS. UM, SO I INVITE EVERYBODY TO COME OUT AND ATTEND, EVEN IF YOU DON'T INTEND ON PURCHASING ART, UM, THAT THE IMPORTANCE OF OUR EVENT IS THAT WE'RE GIVING THESE VETERANS SPACE TO EXPRESS THEIR THOUGHTS, THEIR IDEAS, THEIR EXPERIENCES, AND OUR EVENT IS FUNDED IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE VETERANS ART PROJECT, UM, BY WAY OF CALIFORNIA'S MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES OVERSIGHT AND ACCOUNTABILITY COMMISSION. UM, SO IT IS THROUGH THESE EVENTS AND THROUGH ADVOCACY WITH THESE VETERANS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO MAKE OUR VOICES LOUDER IN THE SPACES THAT THEY NEED TO BE IN ORDER TO, UM, ACQUIRE FUNDING FOR THESE SORTS OF PROGRAMS. AND WHAT WE DO AT LIFE ON EARTH ART IS SPECIFICALLY COMMUNITY ART MAKING. AND SO WE INVITE PEOPLE OF DIVERSE BACKGROUNDS AROUND THE SAME TABLE TO DO. WHAT WE STARTED WITH WAS PRIMARILY PAPER MACHE. WE'VE EXPANDED INTO LARGER PROJECTS, UM, AND IT'S REALLY BEAUTIFUL TO SEE COMMUNITY COME TOGETHER ON A SINGLE PROJECT TO CREATE SOMETHING BIG AND BEAUTIFUL FOR PEOPLE TO COME AND EXPERIENCE TOGETHER. SO, UH, AGAIN, LIFE ON EARTH ART, UH, SONOMA COUNTY VETERANS ART DAY, SEPTEMBER 23RD, SATURDAY FROM 12 TO 6:00 PM AT 1 3 3 COPELAND STREET HERE IN PETALUMA. THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. AND, UM, WE APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS AND AND LOGISTICS INVOLVED IN BRINGING THAT MESSAGE TO US IN PERSON TONIGHT. NEXT SPEAKER, PETER CHERNOFF, TO BE FOLLOWED BY, UH, SUHA. HOTAR. ANOTHER BEAUTIFUL DAY. AS ARE WE ALL. I AM ALL THINGS GREAT SPIRIT SINGS HARDCORE SPIRIT WARRIORS. I PRAY FLEX YOUR WINGS FOR MOST OF THE POLITICAL WORLD. BE FILLED WITH UNCLEAN FOUL. A MESSAGE CALLED FORTH THROUGH THE OWL. THIS ALLEE OWL HAS CALLED FORTH FROM BEYOND AND ABOVE, EAST WITH SOUTH AND NORTH, THE FOX, THE EAGLE, JAGUAR, LION, TIGER, AND BEAR THROUGH SPIRIT. THEY HEAR IT SET TO ENGAGE WITH FLAIR. THE NEXT THREE WEEKS AND PERHAPS A BIT MORE, COMES ACTION BY ALMIGHTY FACTION. TO THE MAKERS OF WAR RELIGIOUS WORLD LEADERS BE PROFOUND DE PROFESSIONAL DECEIVERS, CREATING TWICE THE CHILD OF HELL UNDER OUR CRACKED LIBERTY BELL FROM THE RANKS OF BELIEVERS, THESE SUCH LIARS TOGETHER CONSPIRES WITH THE MISLEADS OF EDUCATION WHO HAVE LONG SOUGHT TO TERROR SUNDER AS THEY PLUNDER THE PROMISE OF THIS NATION, ALONG WITH US BANKERS MAINTAINING OIL TANKERS AND SANITY UPON THIS EARTH. MY MESSAGE HARDLY BY WROTE THESE SCOUNDRELS SCHEDULED TO BE SMOKED BEFORE THE REBIRTH BY THE UNSEEN DOG SOLDIERS, SPECIAL FORCES UPON ALMIGHTY HORSES, TRUE AMERICAN MUSCLE AMERICAN HUSTLE, WARRIORS, RED-BLOODED AMERICAN CORE HULE JUDGMENT DAY, SOME MIGHT SAY, DELIVERING JUST DESSERTS. THE LIVING LORD'S VENGEANCE. PLAY FOR THE AL SENT HUMMINGBIRD TO DELIVER THE WARRIOR'S CALL ONLY MOMENTS BEFORE THE CALL, BEFORE THE FALL. [00:40:01] I AM PETER BELL RINGER'S SOUL SINGER, LIGHT BRINGER AS YOU HEAR THIS, IT IS DONE NOWHERE TO HIDE, NOWHERE TO RUN STOCK UP NOW DRY GOODS AND WATER. MY WARRIORS HAVE ARRIVED WALKING THROUGH FIRE, WALKING IN SERVICE TO THE KING'S DAUGHTER WHO TRULY, TRULY BEING THE QUEEN OF QUEENS, A HOE THANK YOU, HOTTER TO BE FOLLOWED BY ADAM GEY. I'VE NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE, SO BEAR WITH ME. UM, I'M SUSHI HITAR. I'M PUTTING FORTH A CALL TO ACTION SEIZING ALL ABUSES OF THE INNOCENT CHILDREN AND WOMEN TO STOP THIS CALL DIRECTED TO EVERY WARRIOR, VETERAN, SHERIFF, AND COP. IT IS MY GREATEST DESIRE TO MORE THAN ASPIRE EVERY WOMAN AND OUR YOUTH TO STAND UP TOGETHER, TO STAND IN UNISON, CLAIMING OUR TRUE RIGHT TO POWER THROUGH GOD, ATTAINING THE PROMISE, THE TRUE PROMISE OF FREEDOM, LIBERTY, AND JUSTICE. EVERY WOMAN HAVING SURVIVED THE REFINERS FIRE OF THE ABUSE, ALCOHOL, DRUGS, DEPRESSION, AND WHO FINALLY HAS FOUND HER VOICE, I AM HERE. I'M ASKING YOU, PLEASE JOIN ME NOW ON BEHALF OF OUR CHILDREN, ALL CHILDREN, ALL THE INNOCENT, AND HELP ME TO STRENGTHEN AND RESOLVE THIS HORRIBLE TRAGEDY THAT IS GOING ON ALL OVER THE WORLD. HOW MANY OF OUR CHILDREN HAVE BEEN RAPED, BOTH PHYSICALLY AND SPIRITUALLY? HOW MANY OF OUR CHILDREN TAKEN AWAY BY FALSE AUTHORITIES LIKE C P S ALONE? ALONE, WE REMAIN TARGET AND TRAFFICKED. WE NEED HELP. WE NEED TO BE UNITED AS ONE. WE ARE A PRIDE OF LIONS TRULY RULED BY THE FEMININE. HOW MANY WOMEN IN PRISON FOR FIGHTING BACK AGAINST THEIR ABUSERS? I'M CALLING TO, TO YOU SAYING, NO MORE, NEVER MORE. RELEASE THE POWER AND COME FORTH AND DON'T BE AFRAID. THANK YOU, I'M AFRAID. UM, AND THANK YOU. UM, I ANNOUNCED ADAM GUERNSEY, BUT I SEE THAT THAT'S AGENDA ITEM 14. SO I'LL, I'LL PUSH THAT CARD. THE NEXT SPEAKER WOULD BE STAN GOLD TO BE FOLLOWED BY NANCY WILSON. MATT MCGUIRE. I SHARED THE SAME COMMENT. UH, COULD YOU GO FIRST? UM, LET'S BRING MATT MCGUIRE FORWARD AND, AND, UM, AND I APOLOGIZE, NANCY WOULD BE JUST ANOTHER MINUTE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. GOOD EVENING COUNSEL AND STAFF. GOOD TO SEE EVERYBODY HERE. DID EVERYBODY GET THE EMAIL I SENT YOU LAST THURSDAY? HOPEFULLY YOU'VE ALL READ IT SO I WON'T WASTE MY TWO MINUTES. UM, BASICALLY, SO APPARENTLY THE, UH, UH, THE LEASE CONTRACTS FOR THE FAIR SUBTENANTS ARE GONNA COME BEFORE YOU AT YOUR NEXT MEETING AT THE BEGINNING OF OCTOBER, NOT HAVING PARTICIPATED IN THE NEGOTIATION. I'M HERE TO SAY TONIGHT THAT STAN GOLD AND I WOULD LIKE YOU FOLKS TO CONSIDER AND INCORPORATE REQUIRING THE RACETRACK PROMOTER TO MAKE A TRANSITION TO ALL ELECTRIC OVER THREE YEARS, TRANSITIONING ONE THIRD EACH YEAR, STARTING IN NEXT YEAR'S RACING SEASON. NOW, OF COURSE, UM, YOU KNOW, I, AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE NEGOTIATIONS ARE. YOU HAVEN'T MADE A DECISION ON THAT. SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WE BRING THIS TO YOU. NOW, AS JOHN COULD TELL YOU, WE CAME TO THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMITTEE, BUT WITH SOME RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CITY MANAGER. WE'RE HERE TONIGHT. NOW, THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER POSITIVES IF YOU DO ADOPT THIS. AND ONE IS THAT IT WILL REDUCE THE NOISE. THAT IS A PROBLEM THAT MANY, MANY PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY REALLY HATE ME AMONGST THEM. UH, BUT THAT WIND UP CHANGING ONE 30 YEAR IS GONNA MAKE A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN THAT. OBVIOUSLY THE POLLUTION IS A CRUCIAL FACTOR. AND FOLLOWING ON FROM YOUR REPORT FROM EXTREME HEAT, THIS IS PARTICULARLY TIMELY. UH, THE OTHER ONE IS THAT, UM, IF THIS, UH, THE PROMOTER, UH, ENDS UP BEING AN ALL ELECTRIC, UH, RACE EVENT, THAT COULD ACTUALLY BE A DRAW FOR PEOPLE TO THIS COMMUNITY. IT COULD ACTUALLY HAVE SOME POSITIVE ECONOMIC IMPACTS. UM, NOW SINCE THE LEASES APPARENTLY ARE THREE TO FIVE YEARS, WE THINK THIS IS CRUCIAL THAT YOU ACT ON IT. UM, THE REPORT THAT WE JUST HEARD EARLIER WAS REALLY COMPREHENSIVE AND VERY IMPRESSIVE, BUT [00:45:01] IT'S REACTIVE. THIS IS PROACTIVE. THIS IS SOMETHING LIKE SAYING, NO MORE NEW GAS STATIONS. WE ALL KNOW THE CRISIS IS HERE. WE'RE ALL SUFFERING FROM THE EXTREME HEAT, FLOOD, FIRE, ET CETERA. THIS IS LOW HANGING, IT'S SORRY. AND YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YOUR AVAILABLE QUESTIONS IF YOU LIKE. AND, UH, OUR LAST IN CHAMBER SPEAKER IS NANCY WILSON. OH, I'M SORRY. I THOUGHT STAN WAS SEATING HIS, UH, MOMENT. NO COMMENTS. I'M SORRY. AGAIN. UM, STAN, PLEASE COME FORWARD. WE HEARD AN EXCELLENT, UH, PRESENTATION ON THE HEAT PROBLEM. THE PROBLEM IS THAT IT'S ALL REACTIVE. IT ALL ADDRESSES A CAUSE. UH, UM, IT, IT ALL, IT ALL ADDRESSES A SYMPTOM AND NOT A CAUSE. SO WE ARE ADDRESSING THE CAUSE. THE CAUSE IS THE BURNING OF FOSSIL FUELS. THE FOSSIL FUELS TAKE PLACE BY THESE CARS GOING ROUND AND ROUND AT THE RACETRACK. THAT'S THE PRIMARY ISSUE. WE ARE NOT AGAINST AUTO RACING. WE ARE NOT AGAINST THE SPORT OF AUTO RACING. AUTO RACING IS FINE. WHAT ISN'T FINE IS THE ENGINES OF DEATH THAT CREATE THE GASES THAT COME OUT OF THOSE ENGINES. THERE IS A SOLUTION, AND THAT IS SWITCHED TO A DIFFERENT KIND OF PROPULSION MECHANISM. AN ELECTRIC MOTOR, THE ELECTRIC MOTOR CAUSES LESS NOISE AND NO GREENHOUSE GASES. NOW THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY WRAPPED UP IN THIS RACING, SO WE WON'T INSIST THAT PEOPLE DO THIS. SUDDENLY THEY'VE GOT A LOT INVESTED. SO WE'RE SUGGESTING IN OUR RECOMMENDATION TO YOU A THREE YEAR PERIOD OVER WHICH THERE'S A PHASE OUT, A THIRD, A THIRD AND A THIRD, UNTIL EVENTUALLY THEY'RE 100% ELECTRIC OR NO, NO LEASE. THAT'S IT. NOW, SINCE WE KNOW THIS IS COMING UP ON THE 2ND OF OCTOBER, YOU'VE GOT GOT VERY LITTLE TIME TO CONSIDER. SO YOU'RE GOING TO EITHER LOCK INTO A LEASE THAT PERMITS GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS OR YOU'LL CONSIDER THEIR REMOVAL. HOWEVER YOU WISH WE SUGGESTED. I'M SORRY, YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND, AND OUR LAST IN-HOUSE SPEAKER IS, UH, NANCY WILSON. AND, UM, I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE AND THAT LITTLE SCHEDULING ALTERNATION. THANK YOU. TWO WEEKS AGO, I SENT AN EMAIL TO EACH OF YOU REQUESTING THAT YOU REVIEW PETALUMA'S CURRENT CHICKEN ORDINANCE, WHICH ALLOWS FOR THE KEEPING OF A ROOSTER WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. AS FAR AS I CAN DETERMINE, PETALUMA THE ONLY CITY IN THE COUNTY THAT ALLOWS SUCH A THING. IT'S BECOME A MATTER OF CONCERN TO ME BECAUSE MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBORS HAVE A ROOSTER, A LOUD ROOSTER. UH, HE CROWS DAY AND NIGHT, STARTING AT ABOUT TWO IN THE MORNING, SOMETIMES GOING UNTIL MIDNIGHT. AFTER MANY WEEKS, SEVERAL OF US NEIGHBORS FILED PROBLEM ANIMAL REPORTS WITH NORTH BAY ANIMAL SERVICES. THEY ARE AWARE OF THE PROBLEM. WE WERE TOLD THAT THE ROOSTER WOULD BE GONE BY THE END OF LAST WEEK. THAT DAY CAME AND WENT. AND TODAY WE WERE TOLD IT WOULD BE ANOTHER DAY OR TWO. I BELIEVE THOUGH, THAT THE CURRENT ORDINANCE, WHICH WAS WRITTEN IN 2004 AND REVISED MORE THAN 15 YEARS AGO, NEEDS TO BE REVISED AND UPDATED. UM, THE WHEELS OF GOVERNMENT WILL TURN, THE ROOSTER WILL BE GONE. OUR ROOSTER WILL BE GONE. BUT WE ASK THAT YOU LOOK AT THAT OR DIRECT YOUR STAFF TO LOOK AT THAT, TO SAVE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS FOR THE KIND OF, FROM THE KIND OF TURMOIL AND DISTURBANCE THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH. UH, ONE OTHER POINT, , I SENT THAT EMAIL TO EACH OF YOU. UH, IT WAS POLITE, IT WAS WELL RESEARCHED, IT WAS CLEAR, IT WAS CONCISE, IT WAS WELL WRITTEN AND IT WAS IGNORED BY ALL OF YOU EXCEPT TWO. UH, TO ME THAT SAYS THAT THE REST OF YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN YOUR CAMPAIGN PROMISES TO BE RESPONSIVE AND RECEPTIVE TO CONCERNS OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS. BUT WE REMEMBER AND WE VOTE, AND I THINK YOU SHOULD BE EMBARRASSED. [00:50:02] THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LET'S GO TO OUR ZOOM AUDIENCE FOR FURTHER COM PUBLIC COMMENTS. THE ONE HAND THAT WE HAVE RAISED IS DARREN KUEN, WHO I WILL ALLOW TO SPEAK RIGHT NOW. DARREN, YOU MAY UNMUTE AND BEGIN YOUR COMMENTS. THANKS, PATRICK. UH, REALLY QUICK, I WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT, UH, THE RIVER CITY APARTMENTS, THAT'S THE PET PROJECT THAT PROVIDES LOW INCOME AND SUPPORTIVE HOUSING FOR VETERANS AND OTHERS, UH, RECENTLY HAD THEIR BUS STOP REMOVED FROM THE, UH, TRANSIT PLAN OR THE, THE ROUTE IN PETALUMA. UH, AND I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE AS I THINK WE SHOULD TRY TO HARMONIZE OUR TRANSIT ROOTS WITH THOSE KIND OF MOST VULNERABLE AND REALLY PEOPLE THAT NEED THOSE SERVICES THE MOST. UH, SO JUST WANTED TO PUT A, A PLANT A SEED FOR THAT. AS YOU KNOW, I KNOW THE MOBILITY ELEMENT AND A LOT OF OTHER GENERAL PLAN THINGS ARE IN MOTION. UH, I'M HOPING THAT THAT TRANSIT MAP ISN'T FINAL AND WE CAN, WE CAN ADD THAT STEP, UH, THAT STOP BACK FOR RIVER CITY APARTMENTS. AND THEN REALLY BRIEFLY, I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION THERE IS A MEETING, UH, TOMORROW EVENING, AN URBAN FORESTRY MEETING AT THE PETALUMA COMMUNITY CENTER ON MCDOWELL AT FIVE 30. REALLY ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO COME OUT, LEARN MORE ABOUT TREE POLICY IN THE CITY AND WHAT THE PLANS ARE FOR THE URBAN FORESTRY GRANT THAT THE CITY IS WORKING THROUGH RIGHT NOW. UH, AND THEN ALSO, I'M SURE STAFF WILL MENTION THIS, BUT THE GPAC MEETING, I KNOW A HEARING FROM A LOT OF CITIZENS. THEY'RE KIND OF BIG STRUCTURAL IDEAS PEOPLE HAVE, AND I THINK IT'S CRITICAL TO UNDERSTAND THE GENERAL PLAN IS REALLY THE PLACE FOR A LOT OF THOSE IDEAS TO GO. SO THERE'S A GAG MEETING IN PERSON ALSO AT THE PETALUMA COMMUNITY CENTER ON NORTH MCDOWELL AT SIX 30 ON THURSDAY. SO PETALUMA COMMUNITY CENTER, TUESDAY AT FIVE 30 TO TALK ABOUT TREES AND URBAN FORESTRY. AND THEN THURSDAY, THE 21ST AT SIX 30, TALK ABOUT THE GENERAL PLAN AND PETALUMA'S FUTURE, UH, FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND THAT CLOSES PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THE EVENING, AND I'D LIKE TO BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL AND COUNCIL COMMENTS. [COUNCIL COMMENT] UM, ON A BIT OF AN EDITORIAL NOTE, I THINK THAT WE'VE GOTTEN A LITTLE LONG IN OUR COUNCIL COMMENTS. UH, COUNCIL COMMENTS IS A CHANCE TO BRING UP ACTIVITIES OF OUR LIAISON ASSIGNMENTS EACH OF US HAS, AND OTHER IMPORTANT COUNCIL TOPICS. UM, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE BRIEF AND CONCISE. WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO THE BUSINESS MATTERS AT HAND AND NOT KEEP THE PUBLIC HERE OR OURSELVES TILL MIDNIGHT EACH MEETING. SO WE'RE GONNA SET THE CLOCK TO 90 SECONDS FOR EACH, UH, COUNCIL, UH, PERSON TONIGHT AND SEE IF WE CAN, UH, SPEED DIAL OUR WAY THROUGH IMPORTANT INFORMATION. I'D LIKE TO START WITH COUNCIL MEMBER BARNELL THIS EVENING. THANK YOU, KEVIN. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. UM, I HAVE HAD NO LIAISON APPOINTMENTS, UM, SINCE OUR LAST MEETING. UM, I WILL SAY THAT, UH, THIS SATURDAY, IN ADDITION TO THE, UH, VETERANS ART EXHIBITION FROM NOON TO SIX, FROM FOUR TO SEVEN, UH, SANTA ROSA JUNIOR COLLEGE CONSTRUCTION TRAINING CENTER IS, UM, HAVING AN EVENT. UM, AND THE BETTER CITIES FILM FESTIVAL IS, UM, THIS WEDNESDAY AT 5 45 AT THE DOWNTOWN PETA CINEMAS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCIL MEMBER HEALY. THANK YOU. SO I ALSO GOT A GOOD LAUGH OUTTA THE ARGUS COURIER EDITORIAL CARTOON LAST WEEK, WHICH I ASSUME THIS IS A RESPONSE TO. UM, I WOULD SAY THAT THE, UH, LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE OF THE SONOMA COUNTY MAYORS AND COUNCIL MEMBERS ASSOCIATION MET LAST FRIDAY MORNING. AND THEN THE, UH, C B R T COMMITTEE OF THE CAL CITY'S BOARD OF DIRECTORS MET FRIDAY AFTERNOON. AND THE COMMON THEME WAS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ACA ONE AND ACA 13, BOTH PASSING OUT OF THE LEGISLATURE, UM, ON THURSDAY EVENING, AND THEY'LL BOTH BE ON THE, THE, UH, THE BALLOT IN NOVEMBER OF 2024. THAT'S A CHANGE WITH RESPECT TO ACA 13 THAT WAS ORIGINALLY SLATED FOR THE MARCH BALLOT. THE GOVERNOR ASKED IT TO BE MOVED IN NOVEMBER. UM, AND IT ALSO MADE SENSE TO THE AUTHOR BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE A, UH, HEAVILY CONTESTED REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY IN MARCH, IN A GENERAL ELECTION IN NOVEMBER. AND, AND THINGS WOULD BODE BETTER FOR, UM, THOSE MEASURES IN NOVEMBER. AND THEN I WOULD JUST SAY BRIEFLY THAT, UM, WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN HAD PEOPLE APPROACH US ON HR 35 57, WHICH IS A BILL IN CONGRESS TO, UM, UM, STREAMLINE TELECOMMUNICATION FACILITY SITING, UM, SENATOR HUFFMAN'S, OR I'M SORRY, CONGRESSMAN HUFFMAN'S OFFICE IS TELLING US THAT THAT BILL DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE MOVING, BUT I'M MONITORING THAT AND IF THAT CHANGES AND WE NEED TO WEIGH IN, I'LL, I'LL LET THE GROUP KNOW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. VICE MAYOR PETER THOMPSON. UM, I'LL BE QUICK. UM, NO LIAISON, UM, REPORTS. 'CAUSE I HAVEN'T HAD A MEETING, UM, ON SATURDAY. OH NO. SUNDAY THERE WAS A WOMEN'S BIKE RIDE AND THERE WAS A HUNDRED PEOPLE THAT SHOWED UP AT THE ART CENTER. AND IT WAS, IT WAS, IT WAS GREAT. AND AS FAR AS MS. WILSON , I WAS RAISED ON A CHICKEN FARM. WE, WE FROWNED UPON OUR ROOSTERS. [00:55:01] AND I DO THINK THAT IT WOULD BE GREAT TO UPDATE THAT ORDINANCE BECAUSE I'VE ACTUALLY HEARD FROM SOMEBODY ELSE ABOUT THE SAME COMPLAINT ABOUT ROOSTERS IN TOWN, AND THEY CAN BE QUITE OBNOXIOUS. SO I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S AN EASY FIX FOR OUR ORDINANCE. UM, BUT THAT WOULD BE GREAT. COUNCIL MEMBER. NOW I'LL MAKE THIS SHORT AND SWEET THIS COMING WEEKEND. I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO VISIT THE MUSEUM. THE, UM, PETALUMA HIGH SCHOOL IS HAVING THEIR HUNDRED AND 50TH ANNIVERSARY OF THEIR SCHOOL. AND THE, UM, MUSEUM WILL HAVE THAT EXHIBIT THROUGH OCTOBER EIGHT. I, UM, REPRESENT THE CLASS OF 1978 ON SUNDAY. DOWNTOWN IS AT 37TH ANNUAL PETALUMA FALL. ANTIQUE FAIR ADMISSION IS FREE. IT'S 8:00 AM TO 4:00 PM I'LL SAVE THE EXCITING EVENTS HAPPENING IN THE FALL, UM, FOR THE NEXT MEETING. AND, UM, I HAVE NOS LIAISON REPORTS FROM THE AIRPORT OR THE PARKS AND RECS COMMITTEE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCIL MEMBER POKAY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. UM, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT LIAISONS, BUT JUST THAT I ATTENDED, UH, SONOMA COUNTY TENANTS UNION ASSEMBLY, UH, ON SUNDAY, UH, WHERE, UH, I, I NOTED THAT, UH, UH, PRETTY, PRETTY MUCH HALF OF THE GROUP OF 80 TO 90 PEOPLE WERE FROM THE PETALUMA. UM, UM, LITTLE HOMES, UH, LITTLE WOODS AND, UM, YOUNGSTOWN, UH, ORGANIZATIONS. I'M JUST HAPPY TO SEE COOPERATION BETWEEN THE, UH, TENANTS UNION AND, UH, OUR, UH, OUR, UH, UH, MOBILE HOME TENANTS. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANKS. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER SCHIBS. OKAY. UH, ALONG WITH SEVERAL OTHER, UM, UH, COUNCILMEN AND MAYOR AND VICE MAYOR WHEN ATTENDED THE KO PETALUMA ROUND TABLE RECENTLY. SO CLIMATE ACTIONS, UH, A LOT OF SOLUTIONS WERE COMING FORTH AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE A PART OF THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN THAT'S COMING FORWARD. UM, WHICH WAS NOT, UH, PRESENTED THIS THIS WEEK ON IN THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION. UM, UH, THAT WAS CANCELED BECAUSE THE PLAN WASN'T QUITE READY, BUT IT WILL BE READY VERY SOON. WE UNDERSTAND. UM, THERE IS A, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE RESILIENCY GRANT THAT WE RECEIVED TO PLANT SOME TREES. I'LL HEAR HOPEFULLY A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT FROM, FROM STAFF. UM, I ATTENDED WITH MCKINLEY. UH, I WORKED WITH DAILY ACCESS LAST WEEKEND. WE'RE BUILDING A RAIN GARDENS AND PUTTING IN RAIN CATCHMENT SYSTEMS TO, TO FEED SOME OF THE TREES THAT GOT PLANTED THERE. UH, SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT. AND, UM, ATTENDED THE LEADERSHIP TRAINING COURSE FROM THE, UH, CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. WE WERE AT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. THEY DID A FANTASTIC JOB OF HANDS-ON EXPERIENCE, UM, AS WELL AS DEMONSTRATIONS. AND THEN, UH, SINCE THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION DID NOT MEET LAST THURSDAY, I INSTEAD ATTENDED THE, UH, UH, SEVERAL SESSIONS OF AN ECONOMIC IMPACT SUMMIT IN ENGLAND, UH, VERSUS VIDEO. BUT IT WAS ALL ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE. AND OUR CORPORATIONS ARE, UH, PAYING ATTENTION TO CLIMATE CHANGE AND ARE, ARE GETTING READY. THERE IS, UH, E THEY HAVE E S G, UH, OFFICERS, ENVIRONMENTAL, SOCIAL AND GOVERNANCE OFFICERS WORKING ON CLIMATE CHANGE ON ALL THE MAJOR FINANCIALS AND ALL THE MAJOR CORPORATIONS HAVE THESE FOLKS NOW IN, IN-HOUSE, AND THEY'RE ALL WORKING TOGETHER GLOBALLY. OKAY. MY REPORT, OKAY. WOW. RIGHT IN 90 SECONDS. PERFECT. UM, AND, UM, I'D JUST LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THAT, UH, UH, UH, SONOMA COUNTY'S OWN ASTRONAUT, NICOLE MANN WILL BE IN TOWN TOMORROW, AND THE SCHOOLS HAVE PUT TOGETHER, UH, UM, A HUGE CELEBRATION FOR HER AND THE, UH, VICE MAYOR. AND I'LL BE PRESENTING A COMMON, UH, PROCLAMATION, UH, TOMORROW AT THE, AT THE HIGH SCHOOL AT NOON, AND THEN SHE'LL BE SPEAKING AT THE PETALUMA WOMEN'S CLUB IN THE EVENING. SO EITHER OF THOSE WILL BE, UH, INSIGHTFUL TO KNOW WHAT A MARINE WHO MAKES IT INTO SPACE, UH, HAS GOING ON. UM, AND THAT'S THE END OF COUNCIL REPORT FOR THE EVENING. AND, UM, I'D LIKE TO, UM, PUSH IT OVER TO [CITY MANAGER COMMENT] THE CITY MANAGER FOR HER COMMENTS THIS EVENING FOR MY LESS THAN 92ND COMMENTS. SO FIRST WANNA THANK, UM, PLANNING COMMISSIONER CUSON FOR MENTIONING THE TWO MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE THIS WEEK. ONE ON THE TREE CANOPY, UM, AND OUR URBAN FORESTRY MANAGEMENT PLAN. THAT'S, UH, TOMORROW NIGHT FROM FIVE 30 TO SEVEN, UM, AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER. AND THEN OUR GENERAL PLAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING TO TALK ABOUT OUR FLOOD AND SEA LEVEL RISE MODELING. UM, THAT'LL BE IN PERSON ON THURSDAY, ALSO AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER. UH, THAT'LL START AT SIX 30. AND THEN IF YOU AREN'T ABLE TO ATTEND THAT, WE HAVE ONE, UM, A SIMILAR MEETING THE FOLLOWING WEDNESDAY ON THE 27TH ALSO UP THAT WILL BE VIRTUAL. AND, UM, THE CITY HAS BEEN, UM, BLESSED WITH ANOTHER GRANT AWARD FROM THE U S D [01:00:01] A A FORESTRY GRANT, A MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE WORKED WITH OUR RELIEF PARTNERS IN, UH, I WOULD SAY A FEW MONTHS AGO, UH, TO, UH, BOTH IMPROVE AND PRESERVE OUR TREE CANOPY. AND WE ARE JUST THRILLED, UH, WE'LL BE BRINGING IT BACK TO COUNCIL TO AND THE COMMUNITY TO TALK ABOUT HOW, HOW WE'RE GONNA PLAN TO IMPLEMENT THAT. SO THANK YOU AND THANK YOU. SO WE'LL MOVE INTO [CONSENT CALENDAR] THE CONSENT CALENDAR AT THIS POINT. AND, UM, I'M LOOKING AT ITEMS ONE THROUGH NINE AND ITEM ONE HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THIS CALENDAR AND OFF TO OCTOBER 2ND. AND THEN, UH, JUST A NOTE THAT ITEM THREE WILL, UH, HAVE SOME COUNSEL RECUSAL ON IT. AND THE PROCESS THAT WE, UH, FOLLOW FOR, UM, WHEN THERE IS A RECUSAL IS ON CONSENT CALENDAR IS THAT WE RUN THROUGH ALL THE COUNSEL QUESTIONS TOGETHER. WE RUN THROUGH ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENTARY TOGETHER, AND THEN WE DO VOTES THAT ARE SEPARATED BY WHO'S ELIGIBLE TO VOTE ON WHICH, WHICH ITEMS AT THAT TIME. SO YOU'LL HAVE ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENTS ON, UM, ON ALL THE ITEMS IN ONE, IN ONE, UH, SEGMENT. I'D LIKE YOU TO BRING IT TO COUNCIL TO SEE IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE IT TO THAT SIGN. IS EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THE ITEMS? GOOD THEN, UM, OPENING THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD ON THIS. AND I DO NOT HAVE ANY CARDS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM. CAN I ASK THE CLERK IF WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC, UH, INPUT ON THESE ITEMS EARLY? NO, WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. I, I, UH, AND MAY I ASK THE MODERATOR TO, UH, RUN OUR MESSAGE AND INVITATION TO ZOOM? THANK YOU, MAYOR. AT THIS TIME I'M SHARING MY SCREEN WITH THE TIMER. ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS ONLY. PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND AND ZOOM AND YOU'LL BE CALLED ON INTERN OR PRESS STAR NINE IF YOU'RE PARTICIPATING BY PHONE. I AM LOOKING FOR PARTICIPANTS AND I DO NOT SEE ANY HANDS RAISED. MR. MAYOR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND WITH NO PARTICIPANTS AND NO, UM, UH, CARDS ON THE DAS, I WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AND BRING IT BACK TO THE, UH, DAS. AND, UH, I'D LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLE. I'LL BE RECUSING FROM ITEM THREE BECAUSE I LIVE CLOSE TO THE PARK. UH, AND AS WE HAVE THE MIC OPEN ON THAT, I ALSO LIVE IN PROXIMITY AND WILL BE RECUSING ON ITEM THREE. UH, UM, COUNCIL, COUNCIL MEMBER HEALY, I SEE YOUR HAND. SURE. SO AT THIS TIME I WOULD MOVE ITEMS 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, AND NINE. SO THAT'S A MOTION BY HALEY AND A SECOND BY THE VICE MAYOR CATER THOMPSON. MAY WE HAVE A ROLL CALL? VOTE AND CAN, CAN YOU REPEAT IF THIS WAS FOR THE ITEMS THREE OR FOR THE ITEMS TWO THROUGH. OKAY. THANK YOU. 2, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9. THANK YOU. AND, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BARNICLE AYE. VICE MARY KAY THOMPSON. YES. HEALY? YES. NOW YES. ? YES. SCH SHRIMPS? YES. AND MCDONALD? YES. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. NOW THE ITEM THAT COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLE AND MYSELF ARE RECUSING ON WILL BE ADMINISTERED BY THE VICE MAYOR. SO I'M GONNA BE ASKING FOR A MOTION ON ITEM NUMBER THREE MINUS, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLE AND MAYOR MCDONALD. SO I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM THREE. UM, NOW A SECOND. HEALY'S. FIRST. SECOND. AND NOW A VOTE. ROLL CALL. EXCUSE ME. CATER THOMPSON? YES. HEALY? YES. NOW YES. POST. OKAY. YES. REBS? YES. AND MOTION PASSES WITH BARNACLE AND MCDONALD RECUSING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MOVING TO ITEM 10, [PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION] PUBLIC HEARINGS MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION. THIS IS THE INTRODUCTION OF FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE OF A FIVE-YEAR EXTENSION TO THE COMMERCIAL LEASE BETWEEN THE CITY OF PETALUMA AND THE SONOMA MARIN AREA RAIL TRANSIT. SMART FOR THE PROPERTY, LOCATED AT TWO 10 LAKEVILLE STREET, WHICH INCLUDES THE OLD TREND TRAIN DEPOT AND THE NEIGHBORING BUILDING AND PARKING LOT. AND, UH, TO HELP US WITH THIS ITEM, WE HAVE INGRID VERDE, OUR DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND OPEN GOVERNMENT. GOOD EVENING, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. THANK YOU. UM, FIRST OF ALL, I'M GRATEFUL THAT THE MICS ARE WORKING AND UM, I ALSO JUST WANTED TO ASK REALLY QUICK, WOULD IT BE HELPFUL IF I BROUGHT UP A MAP? IT'LL JUST TAKE ME A MINUTE. YEAH. OKAY. LET ME JUST DO THAT. I'LL TRY TO DO THAT AND TALK [01:05:06] WHILE THIS COMES UP. UH, THE ITEM BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS, UH, A PROPOSED A FIVE-YEAR EXTENSION, BASICALLY EXERCISING OUR OPTION TO EXTEND A LEASE BETWEEN THE, THE NOW CITY OF PETALUMA AND THE, UM, AND SMART TO, UH, LEASE THE PROPERTY LOCATED, UM, NEAR RIGHT NEXT TO THE SMART STATION. ESSENTIALLY THE ENTIRE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT IT INCLUDES THE ART CENTER, THE VISITOR CENTER, THE OLD TRAIN DEPOT, THE PARKING LOT, UM, ADJACENT TO THAT, UM, THAT'S BOUND BY WASHINGTON, UH, D STREET AND LAKEVILLE. UM, THAT LEASE WAS ENTERED INTO IN 2003. IT'S A 25, IT'S A 15 YEAR LEASE WITH TWO FIVE YEAR OPTIONS, ACTUALLY, I'M SORRY, 10 YEAR LEASE WITH THREE FIVE YEAR OPTIONS. THIS WOULD BE THE THIRD, UM, OPTION WE WOULD BE EXERCISING. SO THIS WOULD BE THE LAST FIVE YEAR PERIOD OF THIS PARTICULAR LEASE. UM, THE CITY MANAGER AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING WITH THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF SMART ABOUT ENTERING INTO A NEW LEASE. WE'LL HAVE, UH, SEVERAL YEARS TO GET THAT UNDERWAY. OUR GOAL WOULD BE TO KEEP THAT PROPERTY, UM, FOR CITY USE AND COMMUNITY USE, EITHER WITH THE VISITOR CENTER AND THE ART CENTER OR ANOTHER, UM, ANOTHER CITY USE TO BE DETERMINED BY COUNCIL. UM, BUT OUR GOAL IS TO KEEP THAT PROPERTY WITH THE CITY, UM, SO THAT WE CAN USE IT INTO THE FUTURE. LET'S SEE IF I CAN PULL UP A MAP. UM, I THINK THAT'S REALLY THE EXTENT OF THE ITEM. IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER. UH, ANY QUESTIONS ON THE COUNCIL'S PART? UH, COUNCIL MEMBER REBS, UM, SINCE WE'RE LEASING ALL THOSE BUILDINGS ON, ON THAT PLATFORM, UH, TO SMART, AND YET WE ALSO HAVE, UM, BOTH THE ART CENTER AND THE VISITOR CENTER ALSO THERE. ARE THEY SUBLEASING FROM SMART? ARE THEY LEASING FROM US? AND WHAT TYPE OF AGREEMENTS ARE THERE, UH, WITHIN THIS LEASE FOR, FOR THOSE TWO FACILITIES, SINCE THOSE ARE CITY FUNCTIONS WITHIN NOW OPERATING UNDER SMART. SO HOW DOES THAT OPERATE? RIGHT. A GOOD QUESTION. THANK YOU. SO THE CURRENT LEASE, UM, IS SET UP BETWEEN US AND SMART, AND THEN WE ARE ALLOWED TO SUBLEASE IT, WHICH WE DO TO BOTH THE ART CENTER AND THE PETALUMA DOWNTOWN ASSOCIATION TO, OFF TO, TO OPERATE THE, UM, VISITOR CENTER AND THE ART CENTER. THOSE TWO ARE, UM, THOSE TWO AGREEMENTS ARE UNDER LICENSE AGREEMENTS THAT WE'VE ENTERED INTO. UM, THOSE, UM, SUBSEQUENT TO THIS ACTION, WE WOULD BE RENEWING THOSE LICENSE AGREEMENTS AS WELL. UM, CURRENTLY THOSE LICENSE AGREEMENTS ARE, UM, NOT ARE FREE OF CHARGE, NO RENT. UM, WE DO PASS THROUGH MAINTENANCE, UM, TO EACH OF THE NONPROFITS OF THE BUILDINGS, UM, WITH A REQUIREMENT THAT THEY WORK WITH US ON ANY MAJOR MAINTENANCE. UM, AND WE HAVE ALSO BEEN TALKING TO THE NONPROFITS ABOUT, UM, SUPPORTING SOME MAINTENANCE. THE BUILDINGS WERE RENOVATED QUITE EXTENSIVELY WHEN, UH, THE CITY INITIALLY LEASED THE PROPERTY, BUT AGAIN, THEY'RE STARTING TO HAVE MAINTENANCE ISSUES, WHICH IS REALLY BEYOND THE SCOPE OF THE NONPROFITS THAT ARE USING THE BUILDINGS. AND, AND THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE WOULD BRING BACK. MY SENSE IS THOUGH IT'S IN OUR BEST INTEREST TO MAINTAIN THOSE BUILDINGS, WE SPENT, UH, UPWARDS OF $4 MILLION RENOVATING THOSE BUILDINGS BACK IN THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS. SO THE GOAL WOULD TO BE TO KEEP THOSE HISTORIC BUILDINGS RENOVATED AND, AND, AND GOOD USE ANY END, JUST OH, ONE OTHER IN THIS, UH, LEASE AGREEMENT. I'M NEVER QUITE CAUGHT, CAUGHT, WHETHER WE'RE LEASING FROM THEM OR THEY LEASING FROM US ON WHO'S THE ACTUAL OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, US OR THEM. AND WHICH DIRECTION IS THE LEASE? IT WASN'T CLEAR. IT'S JUST A LEASE AGREEMENT, IT SAYS, AS FAR AS I COULD TELL. I'M SORRY, CAN YOU ASK ME THAT QUESTION AGAIN? MY APOLOGIES. OKAY. SORRY. UM, IN THE LEASE AGREEMENT, WHO'S LEASING FROM WHOM? US? FROM THEM OR THEM FROM US. IT'S SMART OWNED PROPERTY. WE ARE LEASING FROM THEM. THEY OWN THE ENTIRE PLATFORM. AND, AND THE BUILDINGS, THEY DO, THEY OWN THAT ENTIRE PROPERTY AND THEN THEY OWN THE ENTIRE VACANT PROPERTY JUST TO THE, I GUESS, WEST OF THE EXISTING DEPOT BUILDINGS AND STATION. GOOD. AND SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LEASING FROM THEM? CORRECT. OKAY, THANK YOU. RIGHT. WE ARE EXERCISING OUR OPTION TO EXTEND THE LEASE BY AN ADDITIONAL FIVE YEARS. THE LEASE WAS ENTERED INTO BETWEEN THE TWO PARTIES BACK IN 2003. THIS WOULD BE THE FINAL, UM, LEASE, UM, OPTION EXTENSION. SO THE NEXT TIME WE WOULD BRING THIS BACK WOULD BE IDEALLY A NEW LEASE BETWEEN US AND SMART WITH, UM, KIND OF A NEW LOOK TO THE FUTURE. CURRENTLY WE PAY SMART $12,000 A YEAR FOR THE, UM, FOR THE ABILITY TO LEASE THAT PROPERTY AND TO SUBLEASE IT OUT. UM, SO WE MIGHT, WE MIGHT RETHINK SOME OF THOSE TERMS AND HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH SMART. GOOD. AND SO IF THEY ALSO OWN THE, THE, THE, [01:10:01] THE BARE GROUND THAT'S WITH THE RAILROAD TRACKS ON IT AND SUCH, IS THERE ANY RIGHT NOW, UM, PLANS OR, UH, WORKINGS BEHIND THE SCENES GOING ON TO DEVELOP THAT PROPERTY AT ALL? WHAT, WHAT THAT MIGHT OR ANY DISCUSSIONS GOING ON? YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, THE VACANT PROPERTY TO THE WEST, THE VACANT PROPERTY. I THINK YOU'RE SAYING THAT THAT IS ALSO OWNED BY SMART, CORRECT. SO I'M NOT AWARE, BUT, UM, I, I COULDN'T SPEAK TO THAT. I HAVEN'T, I HAVEN'T CONNECTED, I, I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING AS OF, AS OF LATE AND THAT THIS PROPERTY ISN'T UNDER DISCUSSION THIS EVENING. IT'S THE, IT'S RIGHT. IT'S JUST CHECKING. OKAY. YEAH. YEAH. SEPARATE AND YEAH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE VERY SEPARATE. OKAY. UM, OKAY. SO YEAH, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE D UH, NOT SEEING ANY? I WANNA GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM. I HAVE NO CARDS HERE. LET'S CHECK WITH, UH, OUR, UM, CLERK FOR ANY PRIOR TO THE MEETING, WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR THIS ITEM. THANK YOU. AND LET'S CHECK WITH OUR ZOOM AUDIENCE FOR ANY PARTICIPATION. THANK YOU, MAYOR EMMY, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS SPECIFIC ITEM, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND IN ZOOM AND YOU'LL BE CALLED ON IN TURN. I AM LOOKING. I SEE NO HANDS RAISED. MR. MAYOR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BRINGING IT BACK TO COUNCIL. ANYONE ON COUNCIL MEMBER HEALY? THANK YOU. SO JUST TO EXPAND A LITTLE BIT ON INGRID'S REMARKS. UM, AT THE TIME, UM, THE CITY ENTERED INTO THIS LEASE AND STARTED SPENDING $4 MILLION OF REDEVELOPMENT FUNDS, UH, TO FIX THOSE PROPERTIES UP. THEY WERE REALLY UNDERGOING WHAT HISTORIC PRE PRESERVATION IS LIKE TO CALL DEMOLITION BY NEGLECT. MM-HMM. , THEY WERE IN AWFUL SHAPE. AWFUL, AWFUL, AWFUL SHAPE. SO, UM, I'M REALLY PLEASED TO SEE US EXERCISING THIS, UH, THIS OPTION. I LOOK FORWARD TO THE STAFF NEGOTIATING WITH SMART AND COMING BACK WITH A LONGER TERM SOLUTION, UM, BECAUSE THESE PROPERTIES REALLY ARE AN ASSET FOR THE COMMUNITY. UM, AND WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO MOVE THE ITEM. I'LL SECOND THAT. SO THAT'S A MOTION FROM HEALY WITH A SECOND BY VICE MAYOR CATER THOMPSON. UM, AND I'D LIKE TO CALL FOR A ROLL CALL AND VOTE. BARNACLE. AYE. CATER THOMPSON? YES. HEALY? YES. NOW YES. POST KYE. YES. SCH SHRIMPS. YES. AND MCDONALD? YES. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND THANK YOU FOR THAT GRAPHIC WILL TAKE IT. THANK YOU. DID FINALLY GET THE MAP UP QUICK, UH, VIEW OF IT THERE. AND, UH, AND NOW WE'RE MOVING ON TO OUR, OUR NEXT, UH, ITEM, ITEM 11, A PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE COMMENTS ON THE 20 22 20 23 DRAFT CONSOLIDATED ANNUAL PERFORMANCE EVALUATION REPORT. CAPER, IT'S NICE TO HAVE ACRONYMS AND A RESOLUTION OF PROVING THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT, UH, CAPER AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO SUBMIT THE CAPER AS REQUIRED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT, HUD. AND, UM, HERE TO HELP US THROUGH THIS ITEM IS SARAH WOLF, OUR HOUSING SPECIALIST. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, STAFF, AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS. THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THIS EVENING, OUR C D B G CAPER. UM, IT'S THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT, THE FEDERAL ENTITLEMENT PROGRAM, AND THE CITY RECEIVES ABOUT 300 TO 350,000, UH, DOLLARS ANNUALLY. AND WE USE THAT, THOSE FUNDS TO SUPPORT PROGRAMS THAT BENEFIT LOW TO MODERATE INCOME HOUSEHOLDS. UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. UM, SO THE AGENDA ITEM THIS EVENING IS TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE COMMENTS ON THE CITY'S C D B G CONSOLIDATED ANNUAL PERFORMANCE EVALUATION REPORT FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2223. UM, BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, I'M GONNA PROVIDE A QUICK OVERVIEW OF AVAILABLE FUNDING ELIGIBLE ACTIVITIES AND HIGHLIGHT THE COMMUNITY PROGRAMS AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. UM, SO FOCUSING ON THE ELIGIBLE ACTIVITIES, UH, THIS REPORT AND PRESENTATION, UM, IS FOCUSED ON THE ACTIVITIES THAT THE CITY WAS ABLE TO COMPLETE DURING THIS FISCAL YEAR. UH, THE CITY RECEIVED $330,000, WHICH ALSO INCLUDED SOME CARRYOVER FUNDING FROM THE C D B G CV COVID FUNDING. UM, ELIGIBLE USES ARE ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY RELOCATION AND DEMO DEMOLITION, REHABILITATION OF RESIDENTIAL HOMES, PUBLIC FACILITIES, UM, PUBLIC SAFETY, AND A D A IMPROVEMENTS. FUNDS CAN ALSO BE USED FOR ENERGY CONSERVATION AND EFFICIENT UPGRADES AND EXPANDING ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES THAT SUPPORT LOW AND MODERATE INCOME POPULATIONS. AND BY FEDERAL REGULATION, 85% OF THE FUNDS MUST BE SPENT ON HOUSING AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS AND 15% ON PUBLIC SERVICES. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. [01:15:02] UH, THIS SLIDE IS A SUMMARY OF THE APPLICATION AMOUNTS, THE FUNDING THAT WAS AWARDED AND THE PROGRAM GOALS AND THE CLIENTS THAT WERE SERVED. UM, SO STARTING OUT YOU CAN SEE THAT THE FUNDING REQUESTED AND THE APPLICATIONS WAS $381,000. WE WERE AWARDED $330,000. SO TO BALANCE THE, UH, DIFFERENCE, WE REDUCED THE FUNDING AWARD FOR REBUILDING TOGETHER PETALUMA, AS WELL AS FOR OUR PROGRAM ADMINISTRATION. AS WE'VE DONE IN PRIOR YEARS, WE'VE REDUCED THE 20% ELIGIBLE, UM, WHICH WAS 66,000 IN THIS CASE, TO 41,450, AND ROLLED THOSE ADDITIONAL FUNDS INTO PROGRAMS. UM, LOOKING AT OUR PROGRAM GOALS, COTS AND P P SS E HAVE COME CLOSE OR EXCEEDED THEIR PROGRAM GOALS AND REBUILDING TOGETHER FACED A FEW OBSTACLES THAT CONTRIBUTED TO A REDUCTION OF CLIENTS BEING SERVED. SPECIFICALLY THE REDUCED DONATIONS OF MATERIALS AND LABOR AND HIGH PRICES OF BUILDING MATERIALS. COLLECTIVELY, THOUGH THE, THE PROGRAM WAS SUCCESSFUL IN SERVING 625 COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO ARE ALL LOW TO EXTREMELY LOW INCOME HOUSEHOLDS. AND THE CV, UH, C D B G CV PROGRAM ALSO EXCEEDED ITS PROGRAM GOAL, GOAL SERVING, UM, 384, UM, COMMUNITY MEMBERS WITH 158 IN THE FISCAL YEAR 2223. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. UM, THIS CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION AND THE ACTION REQUESTED TO COUNCIL THIS EVENING IS TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR COMMENT AND FEEDBACK, AND THEN CONSIDER ADOPTING A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE FISCAL YEAR 22, 23 C D B G CAPER REPORT AND STAFF AND, UM, COMMUNITY PARTNERS ARE HERE IN ATTENDANCE VIA ZOOM. AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BRINGING IT BACK TO COUNCIL FOR ANYONE WITH A QUESTION ON CAPER COUNCIL MEMBER HEALY. THANK YOU. SO I ASSUME APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. UM, I ASSUME STAFF WILL BE COMING BACK AT A LATER TIME WITH RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW TO ALLOCATE THIS FUNDING AMONG THE VARIOUS NONPROFITS. IS THAT, UM, NO, THE FUNDING WAS ALLOCATED TO THE NONPROFITS, UM, IN THE ACTION PLAN, UM, FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 22, 23. AND SO THIS IS JUST A REPORT OUT ON THE, THE FUNDING THAT WAS ALREADY ALLOCATED. OKAY. I WAS TALKING ABOUT 2324. OH, I'M SORRY. YES. UM, SO THE FUNDING FOR 2324, UM, SORRY, KAREN, UH, CAN YOU PLEASE STEP IN PLEASE? ? I DON'T NEED THE DETAILS. IT, IT JUST WILL BE COMING BACK TO US AT SOME POINT. UM, HAVE WE ALREADY BROUGHT THAT FORWARD? THANK YOU. SO THE FUNDING FOR 2324 WAS ALREADY BROUGHT FORWARD TO YOU IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR. OKAY. RIGHT. AND WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, WE GET THE APPLICATIONS, UM, COUNSEL REVIEWS THE APPLICATIONS, WE AWARD THE FUNDING, AND THEN WE GET THE AWARD, THE EXACT AWARD LETTER WITH THE AMOUNT FROM HUD USUALLY AROUND AUGUST. OKAY. APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION. OKAY. AND I, ONE OTHER QUESTION ON, UM, ATTACHMENT TWO, WHICH IS EXHIBIT EIGHT OF THE RESOLUTION ON PAGE 16, THERE'S A REFERENCE TO, UH, DANCO HAVING ACQUIRED ITS SITE AND IS WORKING ON SECURING ADDITIONAL FUNDING. AND I, I KNOW WE GOT A REPORT THAT THEY HAD RECEIVED A MAJOR GRANT, BUT IS THIS TO SAY THEY DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING THEY NEED IN HAND NOW TO, TO MOVE FORWARD? NO, I THINK, UM, WE'LL PROBABLY GO IN AND UPDATE THAT REPORT, BUT THE DRAFT CAPER REPORT THAT'S PUBLISHED ONLINE IS ACTUALLY, WE POST THAT ABOUT 30 DAYS BEFORE THE HEARING. SO THAT WAS BEFORE WE HEARD ABOUT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITIES AWARD THAT, THAT, UH, THE PROJECT JUST RECEIVED. SO ARE THEY, ARE THEY FULLY FUNDED WITH WHAT THEY NEED AT THIS POINT? THEY WILL BE APPLYING FOR TAX CREDIT FUNDING IN ADDITION TO THAT. SO THEY DO NEED TO BRING IN ADDITIONAL SUBSIDY FUNDING. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. SEEING NO OTHER QUESTIONS, I'D LIKE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND I HAVE NO CARDS ON THIS ITEM, AND I'M LOOKING TO OUR CLERK TO SEE ABOUT ONLINE COMMENTS PROVIDED BEFORE THE MEETING. WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS TO THIS ITEM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND OUR MODERATOR TO CHECK OUR ZOOM AUDIENCE. THANK YOU MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC QUESTION TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND IN ZOOM AND YOU'LL BE CALLED ON IN TURN. JUST AS A REMINDER, THIS MEETING IS BEING TRANSLATED IN SPANISH, SO PLEASE SPEAK SLOWLY AND PAUSE AFTER SENTENCES. I SEE NO HANDS RAISED. MR. MAYOR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BRINGING BACK TO COUNSEL. MR. MAYOR, I'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ITEM NUMBER 11, MOTION FROM, UM, THE VICE MAYOR SECOND AND THE SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER NOW. AND I DID JUST WANT TO EXPRESS APPRECIATION TO STAFF IN THAT, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE ONE OF THE FEW ENTITLEMENT CITIES THAT GETS TO DICTATE THE MONEY TO THE CAUSES WE WANTED TO RIGHT HERE IN TOWN WITHOUT ASKING THE COUNTY OR WHOMEVER FOR FURTHER DISCRETION. SO, UM, APPRECIATE YOUR WORK IN KEEPING THAT MOVING. UH, MAY WE HAVE A ROLL CALL? VOTE BARNICLE. [01:20:01] AYE. KATE THOMPSON? YES. HEALY? YES. NOW YES. ? YES. RES YES. AND MCDONALD? YES. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. MOVING TO ITEM 12, UM, RESOLUTION, I APPROVING THE ISSUANCE OF REVENUE BONDS BY THE CALIFORNIA MUNICIPAL FINANCE AUTHORITY IN AN AGGREGATE PRINCIPLE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $35 MILLION TO FINANCE AN AFFORDABLE RENTAL HOUSING FACILITY FOR THE BENEFIT OF EDEN HOUSING AND CERTAIN OTHER MATTERS RELATING THERE TOO. AND AGAIN, WITH THE NEWS, UH, SARAH WOLF HOUSING SPECIALIST. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, YES, AS YOU STATED, THE NEXT ITEM BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE ISSUANCE OF REVENUE BONDS BY THE CALIFORNIA MUNICIPAL FINANCE AUTHORITY C M F A FOR THE PURPOSE OF ACQUISITION CONSTRUCTION OF DOWNTOWN RIVER APARTMENTS, WHICH IS AN EDEN HOUSING PROJECT. AND THIS IS ONE OF THE WAYS THE CITY IS PRESERVING EXISTING AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITH A BONUS TO ADD SIX NEW LOW INCOME UNITS AND ENSURE THE AFFORDABILITY OF THE PROJECT ANOTHER 55 YEARS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO THE DEVELOPER, EDEN HOUSING REQUESTED THE CALIFORNIA MUNICIPAL FINANCE AUTHORITY C M F A TO ISSUE UP TO $35 MILLION WORTH OF BONDS FOR THE PROPOSED FINANCE REFINANCE OF THE ACQUISITION, REHABILITATION AND IMPROVEMENT OF DOWNTOWN RIVER, AN 81 UNIT, MULTI-FAMILY, LOW-INCOME RENTAL HOUSING FACILITY. THE CALIFORNIA MUNICIPAL FINANCE AUTHORITY CANNOT ISSUE BONDS UNTIL A PUBLIC HEARING IS CONDUCTED BY THE JURISDICTION WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT IS LOCATED, AND C M F A WILL ALSO BE ISSUING THESE BONDS. AND BECAUSE OF THIS, THE CITY WILL NOT INCUR ANY FINANCIAL OBLIGATION IN CONNECTION WITH THE FINANCING OF THESE BONDS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. UM, THIS IS A SLIDE SHOWING THE EXISTING COMMUNITY COMPOSITION BROKEN DOWN BY UNIT AND THE COMPOSITION POST REHAB. FIVE OF THE SIX AUS THAT WILL BE REDEVELOPED FROM THE COMMERCIAL SPACE WILL BE ACCESSIBLE FOR DIFFERENTLY ABLED INDIVIDUALS. AND EACH OF THE ADUS WILL ALSO BE ONE BEDROOM UNIT, APPROXIMATELY 600 SQUARE FEET. EACH THREE WILL BE WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE AND THE OTHER TWO WILL BE, UM, FOR HEARING IMPAIRED. AND THE COMMERCIAL SPACE WILL BE REDUCED TO ONE, WHICH IS A CURRENTLY AN EXISTING RESTAURANT ON THE, UM, SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE BUILDING. AND THAT'S APPROXIMATELY 700 1700 SQUARE FEET. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. UM, SO JOINING US VIA ZOOM, WE HAVE MATT SCHREIBER, WHO'S THE ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR OF REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT OF EDEN HOUSING, AND TRAVIS COOPER, FINANCIAL ADVISOR FROM C M F A HERE TO PRESENT, UM, INFORMATION ON THE CAPITAL STACK FOR THIS PROJECT. THANKS, ERIC. AND, UH, COUNSEL, HEAR ME? YEAH, WE CAN HEAR YOU. THANK YOU. GREAT. WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, UM, ALL OF THE SUPPORT AND I'LL, UH, TRY TO MAKE THIS BRIEF, UM, BEFORE YOU, UH, THANK YOU STAFF. ALSO, I JUST WANNA START BY THANKING STAFF AND COUNCIL FOR YOUR SUPPORT THROUGHOUT THIS PROJECT. UH, I WANT TO, UH, DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE FIRST FIVE LINES. UH, THOSE ARE SORT OF THE MOST IMPORTANT AND RELEVANT FOR THE CONVERSATION, UH, TODAY, AS WELL AS THE BOTTOM LINE. SO THIS IS A TOTAL PROJECT COST OF $53 MILLION, APPROXIMATELY ALMOST 54 IF YOU'RE ROUNDING UP. UH, WE ARE FINANCING THIS WITH THE LOW-INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDIT, UH, FINANCING 4% OF LOW-INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDITS, WHICH REQUIRES US TO USE TAX EXEMPT, UH, FINANCING THROUGH BONDS, UH, IN ORDER TO, UH, MOVE THE PROJECT FORWARD. UH, AND SO, UM, 50% OF THOSE TOTAL, UH, COSTS HAVE TO BE FINANCED WITH THAT. AND SO, UM, WE ARE, UH, REQUIRED TO, UM, UH, COME BEFORE YOU AND ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL OF, UH, $35 MILLION, WHICH GIVES US A LITTLE BIT OF BUFFER, UM, FOR THIS TOTAL DEVELOPMENT COST, UM, AND, AND, UM, ENSURES THAT WE CAN MAKE THIS PROJECT FEASIBLE AND CLOSE WITHIN THE NEXT 60 DAYS. UM, AND SO, UH, YOU CAN SEE HERE WE WILL BE SUPPORTING THE PROJECT THROUGH A CONVENTIONAL MORTGAGE THROUGH BANK OF AMERICA. UH, BANK OF AMERICA WILL ALSO BE PROVIDING THE 4% TAX CREDIT EQUITY. UM, BACK IN JANUARY, YOU MIGHT REMEMBER THAT YOU ALL APPROVED, UM, THE $12 MILLION OF EXISTING FINANCING TO ROLL OVER TO THE NEW, UH, PARTNERSHIP, WHICH WILL BE STILL OWNED AND OPERATED BY EDEN HOUSING. AND SO WE ARE VERY THANKFUL FOR THAT. UH, AND THE BOTTOM, UH, PART OF THIS CAPITAL STACK, UH, ARE REALLY, UH, UH, COSTS, UH, UH, THAT INCLUDE IN CASH EXISTING RESERVES, UM, AND DEVELOPER FEE THAT, UH, COMES AFTER ALL OF THE OTHER EXPENSES ARE PAID. UM, AND SO, UH, THAT IS WHAT MAKES UP THE CAPITAL STACK. AND, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AND APPRECIATE COUNCIL'S SUPPORT THIS EVENING. [01:25:01] GREAT, THANK YOU SO MUCH MATT. AND NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THANK YOU. BRING, OH, SORRY, . OKAY. CONTINUING OR, UM, WE HAVE ONE MORE SLIDE TO PRESENT AND THAT'S IT. ALRIGHT. UM, OKAY. SO YEAH, THANK YOU ALL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THIS ITEM BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING. AND, UM, YEAH, WE MOVE TO THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION. I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT, UH, THE PICTURE HERE, UM, SHOWS THAT THE, UM, THE COMMERCIAL SPACES THAT WILL BE REDEVELOPED INTO THE NEW SIX UNITS OF HOUSING. SO, UH, THE ACTION REQUESTED A COUNCIL THIS EVENING IS TO HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING AND RECEIVE COMMENTS AND, UM, CONSIDER ADOPTING RESOLUTION APPROVING THE ISSUANCE OF THE REVENUE BONDS, UH, BY C M F A FOR THE BENEFIT OF DOWNTOWN RIVER APARTMENTS. AND THAT WILL AGAIN, ENABLE US TO ADD ANOTHER SIX UNITS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND EXTEND THE LOAN TERM ANOTHER 55 YEARS WITHOUT ADDITIONAL CITY FUNDS INVESTED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. UH, THANK YOU. I'M GLAD YOU, UH, THAT LAST, UH, PHOTOGRAPH THERE SHOWED THE BUS STOP THAT WE WERE WORRIED ABOUT EARLIER AT ANOTHER ONE, AND THERE'S ONE IN THE PICTURE ON THIS ONE. THAT'S GREAT. AND TO COUNCIL, I'D LIKE TO START WITH COUNCIL MEMBER RI. OKAY. I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE MORE CLEARLY. AND, UM, THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE HAVE, UH, SO THERE'S $53 MILLION TOTAL, BUT $35 MILLION IS SORT OF LIKE GOING THROUGH THIS BOND, BUT WE'RE ONLY DOING A FEW, UM, UNITS ARE BEING RENOVATED. AND I SAID, OKAY, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS, OH, OKAY, TO RENOVATE MAYBE A FEW OF THESE UNITS, NOT $35 MILLION. WE'RE NOT USING $35 MILLION FOR THAT. BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE WHAT THIS IS IS A, LIKE A BUNDLING FOR REFINANCING A HOUSE WHERE YOU'RE BUNDLING A BUNCH OF OTHER SMALLER LOANS, MAKING A SINGLE BUNDLE UP TO $35 MILLION BUNDLE, AND THAT WE'RE USING A BOND FROM A SINGLE SOURCE BANK OF AMERICA TO KIND OF FINANCE OR REFINANCE THE WHOLE THING TO A 4% INTEREST RATE. IS THAT SORT OF MY UNDERSTANDING WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? UM, KAREN, WOULD YOU MIND ? THANKS. THANK YOU. I CAN JUMP IN HERE AND THEN THE EDEN TEAM MIGHT HAVE SOME MORE TO OFFER. UM, BUT REALLY WITH THAT FINANCING, IT'S, IT'S NOT JUST THOSE SIX UNITS THAT THEY'RE ADDING, THEY'RE DOING A FULL REHAB ON THE ENTIRE COMPLEX, UM, WHICH IS GOING TO INCLUDE REDOING SOME, UM, SOME SIDING ON IT WHERE THEY HAD CONCERNS REDOING THE INTERIORS, UM, FULL CARPETING, FULL PAINT UPGRADING, UH, FIXTURES. AND SO THERE'S A LOT MORE, UM, OF THE FUNDING THAT'S GOING INTO REHABBING IT TO ENSURE THAT IT'S A NICE COMMUNITY FOR THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, 20, 25 YEARS MOVING FORWARD. OKAY. SO HOW, HOW OLD IS THIS BUILDING NOW? ALREADY? THE BUILDING IS 20 YEARS OLD. OKAY. UM, A LITTLE BIT OVER 20 YEARS OLD. THERE WAS, UM, EDEN HAD, UH, DONE SOME INSPECTIONS ON IT. THE INITIAL ARCHITECT THAT HAD BUILT IT, UM, THERE WAS SOME CONCERNS WITH THE QUALITY OF HIS WORK, AND SO THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT OF WATER INTRUSION ON, I BELIEVE THE, THE, UM, THE NORTHWEST NORTH NORTHWEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING. MM-HMM. . SO, SO, SO OF THE 35 MILLION, HOW MUCH IS ACTUALLY GOING FOR CONSTRUCTION VERSUS LIKE REFINANCE? I WILL LET EDEN GO AHEAD AND DIVE INTO THOSE NUMBERS A LITTLE BIT. UM, MATT, CAN YOU ANSWER THAT QUESTION? YEAH, SURE, SURE. I THINK IT'S A LITTLE, IT'S A LITTLE, UM, NUANCED BECAUSE THE $35 MILLION IS ACTUALLY GOING TO SUPPORT THE CONSTRUCTION LOAN, UH, SPECIFICALLY AND IT'S A REQUIRE, IT'S ACTUALLY A REQUIREMENT TO ISSUE BONDS, UM, UH, AS, UH, ONE YEAR PAIRING THOSE WITH 4% TAX CREDIT. AND SO, UH, WHEN YOU'RE PAIRING 4% TAX CREDITS, YOU HAVE TO, UM, HAVE YOUR CONSTRUCTION LOAN SUPPORTED, UM, BY, UM, UH, BY THE, UH, TAX EXEMPT BONDS. AND SO THAT'S THE, THE $35 MILLION IS ACTUALLY GOING TOWARD, UH, THAT $26 MILLION, UH, UH, MORTGAGE OR CONSTRUCTION LOAN THAT YOU'RE SEEING, UH, IN THAT LINE ITEM. UM, AND SO IT'S NOT ACTUALLY $35 MILLION, UM, THAT IS GOING TOWARDS THE PROJECT. UM, IT, IT'S GOING TO SUPPORT, UH, THE CONSTRUCTION LOAN, WHICH IN WHICH THEN SUPPORTS US BEING ABLE TO DO ALL OF THE WORKS AND THEN RELEASES BANK OF AMERICA TO PROVIDE US WITH $24 MILLION, UH, OF, OF EQUITY, UH, OR JUST CASH, UM, THAT, UM, FOR THE PROJECT AND, UH, AS PART OF THEIR C R A REQUIREMENTS AND PART OF THE LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDIT PROGRAM. SO IT'S A LITTLE, IT'S A LITTLE NUANCED AND I DON'T KNOW IF, UH, UH, TRAVIS FROM, UM, UH, C M F A CAN JUMP IN HERE, UM, IF I'M NOT EXPLAINING THIS AS CLEARLY AS, AS I CAN. OKAY. SO IF, IF WE'RE, UM, SO $35 MILLION IS, IS IN ADDITION TO WHAT'S ALREADY, UM, BONDS OR LOANS ARE ALREADY EXISTING. SO THAT ADDS UP TO QUITE [01:30:01] A BIT FOR, FOR A SINGLE BUILDING. 'CAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OTHER BUILDINGS JUST BEING 55 TO A HUNDRED MILLION JUST FOR BUILDING ITSELF. SO $35 MILLION, WHAT'S GONNA BE THE TOTAL OUTLAY OF MONEY THAT'S GONNA BE OWED BACK AND WHAT'S THE PAYBACK PERIOD THAT'S GONNA BE NEEDED TO PAY IT ALL BACK? UM, FOR THIS, FOR THIS UNIT? 'CAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY FOR THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT WE HAVE HERE. UM, YEAH, SO, UM, WE'RE ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, IT'S $53 MILLION, WHICH, UM, TOTAL DEVELOPMENT COSTS. SO, UM, THAT IS, UM, LESS THAN, IT'S ACTUALLY A A PER UNIT COST OF ABOUT $617,000, WHICH IS ACTUALLY QUITE REASONABLE, UM, THESE DAYS GIVEN ALL OF THE VARIOUS COSTS. UM, OUR TOTAL CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT IS ACTUALLY MUCH LESS THAN THAT. UM, SO IF WE'RE, IF WE, UH, IF YOU'RE DIGGING INTO THE NUMBERS A LITTLE DEEPER, UM, WE'RE ACTUALLY, UM, LOWER THAN $617,000. IT'S ALL THE OTHER COSTS LIKE PERMITTING AND DESIGN THAT, THAT ADD UP TO. AND THESE DAYS, UH, CONSTRUCTION LOAN INTEREST THAT ARE ADDING UP TO THAT, THAT 53 MILLION. UM, SO WE ARE ACTUALLY AROUND, AGAIN, 617,000 PER UNIT. UM, AND THEN TO YOUR, YOUR QUESTION, UM, REGARDING, UM, HOW LONG WE HAVE TO PAY THAT OFF. SO THE, THE, THE TERM OF THE CONSTRUCTION LOAN IS, UH, GOING TO BE, UM, I THINK 25 MONTHS. SO IT'S 18 MONTHS PLUS, UM, UH, A SIX MONTH EXTENSION. SO PROBABLY 24 MONTHS, UM, IS THE TOTAL. AND THAT'S, AND AGAIN, I JUST WANNA EMPHASIZE THAT, UM, AS KAREN AND SARAH MENTIONED IN THEIR PRESENTATION, SO THIS IS THE RESPONSIBILITY TO PAY THAT MONEY BACK IN, IN THE, IN THE LOAN TERM FOR THEIR CONSTRUCTION LOAN, WHICH THESE BONDS WILL GO TOWARDS SUPPORTING, UH, IS THE SOLE RESPONSIBILITY OF, OF, UH, THE BORROW AND BORROWER IN THIS CASE, EDEN HOUSING. UM, AND YOU WOULD HAVE, THE CITY HAS NO FINANCIAL OR LEGAL OBLIGATIONS, UH, OR RESPONSIBILITIES WITH REGARD TO THE REPAYMENT OF THAT, OF THAT DEBT. YOU ARE A PARTNER IN THIS PROJECT. YOU HAVE ABOUT $12 MILLION, UM, INVESTED IN THIS PROJECT ALREADY THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE, UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN THAT YOU APPROVED IN JANUARY TO ROLL OVER TO THE NEW, UH, PARTNERSHIP. AND SO THAT WAS, UH, THAT WAS EXTREMELY HELPFUL IN, IN GETTING US, UM, ACROSS THE FINISH LINE AND GETTING TO THE START LINE. BUT, UM, OF THIS REHAB FOR THIS, UM, SORT OF, UM, LIKE KAREN MENTIONED, WE HAD, UH, SOME DRY RAW ISSUES ON THE NORTH FACADE. THE CON THE CONTRACTOR WHO ORIGINALLY CONTRACTED THE BUILDING, UM, ACTUALLY, UH, WENT OUT OF BUSINESS DUE TO LAWSUITS, UM, UH, ASSOCIATED WITH CONSTRUCTION. SO WE REALLY WANNA MAKE SURE WE CAN MOVE THIS PROJECT FORWARD AND, AND MAKE IT A, UH, UH, CONTINUE TO HAVE IT BE A HABITABLE PLACE FOR, FOR RESIDENTS AND THEN ADD THE ADDITIONAL BENEFIT THIS TIME AS WE'RE ADDING AN ADDITIONAL SIX UNIT OF HOUSING. AND I'D LIKE TO INVITE OUR, UH, UH, CITY ATTORNEY IN FOR COMMENT. THANK, THANK YOU. I'M, I'M GONNA TRY TO MENTION A FEW HIGH POINTS IN CASE IT HELPS AND I'M JUST SORT OF GRABBING FROM THE STAFF REPORT AND SOME OF THE OTHER COMMENTS. UM, BUT I THINK THESE ARE LIKE KEY POINTS FOR THE COUNCIL. ONE IS THAT THERE WERE A COUPLE OF CITY NOTES, UM, AND HAS BEEN MENTIONED. THEY'RE BEING ROLLED OVER INTO THE NEW PROJECT. THOSE ARE LOANS THOUGH TO THE, TO THE, TO THE PROJECT. AND, UM, THOSE KIND OF LOAN TERMS HAVE BEEN BEEN IMPORTANT 'CAUSE UM, AS AND WHEN THEY'RE REPAID, THEY GO BACK INTO OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROGRAM. THE OTHER THING TO NOTE HAS, HAS BEEN MENTIONED A FEW TIMES VERY HELPFULLY AND THANKS FOR DOING THAT, IS THAT THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO CITY RISK OR RESPONSIBILITY, UM, GENERAL FUND MONEY OR ANY OTHER MONIES RELATED TO THE BONDED INDEBTEDNESS FOR THE REHAB. UM, AND THE RESULT JUST SORT OF PRACTICALLY SPEAKING, IS GONNA BE UPGRADED FACILITIES, UM, ADDING UNITS. UM, AND, AND I THINK THIS IS KEY EXTENSION. I MEAN, THE REASON WHY THE CITY CONTRIBUTES TO THESE FUNDS IS FOR THE AFFORDABLE AFFORDABILITY PERIOD, IT'S GONNA BE EXTENDED FOR 55 YEARS. SO WE'RE GONNA GET UPGRADED FACILITIES ADDRESSING SOME ISSUES WITH THAT MIGHT AFFECT THE, THE LONGEVITY AND THE SAFETY OF THE BUILDINGS. UM, AND, UM, A WHOLE NEW AFFORDABILITY PERIOD, UM, WITH THE CITY'S NOTE AND THE CITY'S AFFORDABLE HOUSING FUNDING, UH, ROLLED OVER INTO THE NEW, UM, REFI BASICALLY. AND THIS IS PRETTY COMMON STRUCTURE THAT WE'VE DONE FOR A NUMBER OF PROJECTS AND, AND THE REASON WHY IS IT PRESERVES THE UNITS IN AFFORDABILITY, KEEPS THEM NICE, IN HABITABLE AND SAFE, UM, FOR THE RESIDENTS. SO HOPEFULLY THAT'S HELPFUL. THAT'S MY THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THAT WEIGHING IN. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? JUST ONE, ONE LAST ONE. UM, BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE ABOUT $12 MILLION ALREADY INVESTED IN THIS PROPERTY ALREADY. SO THIS IS ACTUALLY A, UM, A HELP TO PRESERVE THAT $12 MILLION. AND SO WE'RE NOT, SO IT'S NOT A RISK SITUATION FOR US FOR THAT 12 MILLION IS WHAT I'M ASKING. NOT NECESSARILY . IT DOES, IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE RISK. IT DOES. UM, [01:35:01] IT EXTENDS THE REPAYMENT TIME, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT, IT FOLDS IT INTO THE NEW REFI PERIOD, BUT WHAT IT DOES IS, UM, EXTENDS THE LIFE OF AFFORDABILITY OF THE UNITS FOR ANOTHER 55 YEARS. SO IT'S A HUGE BANG FOR OUR BUCK TO BOTH DELIVER THOSE UNITS IN THE FIRST PLACE AND THEN EXTEND THE DOUBLE THE AFFORDABILITY PERIOD BASICALLY. SO OKAY, GOOD. AND, UM, SO THAT WITHOUT NEW CITY MONEY. OKAY. THEN MOVING OFF OF THE FINANCIAL, UM, BECAUSE WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT, UM, OYSTER COVE RIGHT NOW, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RETAIL UNDERNEATH, UH, LIVING SITUATIONS. AND HERE WE'RE IN THIS SITUATION, WE'VE LOST, UH, UM, RETAIL, WE'RE MOVING INTO LIVING SWITCH THERE. SO IS THERE ANY IMPLICATIONS, UH, THIS PROPERTY FOR, UH, WHAT MIGHT BE HAPPENING OYSTER COVE OR OTHERS LOSING THAT RETAIL SPACE? UH, HOW WE MOVE FORWARD WITH SAYING WE LIKE RETAIL SPACE IN ANY LIVING OR NOT? IS THERE ANYTHING THERE FOR US TO BE? IT'S, I DON'T THINK SO. UM, IT'S BEEN, THERE'S BEEN CHALLENGES IN THE DOWNTOWN MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS, UM, LEASING 'EM UP. UM, AND, AND OTHER STAFF KNOW BETTER THAN I, WHAT, WHAT HAS CAUSED THOSE CHALLENGES, BUT I KNOW THEY'RE STILL THERE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE THEATER SQUARE FOR EXAMPLE, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THE BIGGEST REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT THAT THE CITY EVER DID, UM, IT'S NOT FULLY LEASED UP EVEN THOUGH IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A NICE SPACE AND IT'S, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF BENEFITS AND THERE'S LOTS OF NICE LEASES THERE. UM, SO, AND I, I THINK THE SAME HAS BEEN TRUE FOR THESE COMMERCIAL COMPONENTS. AND SO SINCE WE ARE, WE HAVE, UM, LEGAL RESPONSIBILITIES AND SINCE WE HAVE A SHELTER CRISIS THAT THE COUNCIL'S PREPARING TO RENEW, UM, THAT DECLARATION, UM, TO, TO PROVIDE HOUSING OF ALL DIFFERENT TYPES. I, FOR MYSELF, AS FAR AS I'M AWARE AND STAFF, YOU KNOW, PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M MISTAKEN, BUT, UM, IT'S, IT'S JUST ANOTHER PLUS IN TERMS OF THE, THE AFFORDABLE UNITS THAT RESULT FROM THE PROJECT. IT'S A CREATIVE WAY OF, UM, UTILIZING, UM, RETAIL SPACE THAT HAS BEEN VERY DIFFICULT, IF IMPOSSIBLE TO FILL. RIGHT. I JUST WANNA USE THAT AS, AS MAYBE THIS IS A, A LESSON FOR THE FUT NEXT SET OF DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT BECAUSE WE, WE ARE LOOKING AT SEVERAL MIXED USES WITH RETAIL BELOW HOUSING, AND THIS SITUATION'S NOT WORKING. WE NEED TO BE BE THINKING THIS AS A LESSON IN, IN THOSE SITUATIONS. THAT'S ALL I'M REFERRING TO. THANK YOU. UH, THANK YOU. AND, UM, I HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS ON THIS TOO. THE, UM, UM, IN THE CASE OF THE CONVERSIONS, THAT'S CONVERSIONS TO ADDITIONAL AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHEREAS IN CONVENTIONAL, UM, DEVELOPMENT, WE'D BE TALKING ABOUT DEVELOPING, UM, IF, IF WE LOST COMMERCIAL, WE WOULD BE PUTTING IT INTO MARKET RATE HOUSING. SO I CAN SEE AN INCENTIVE TO GAINING AFFORDABLE HOUSING LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE, WHERE, WHEREAS WE MIGHT NOT BE SO FLEXIBLE IN A MARKET RATE HOUSING ENVIRONMENT, UH, I THINK THAT THAT'S FAIR. AND THEN THE OTHER POINT THAT, UH, WAS RAISED WAS THAT WE HAVE AN INVESTMENT IN THIS PROPERTY AND, AND I THINK WE CAN USE THE TERM INVESTMENT BROADLY, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S AN ASSET ON OUR, UH, FINANCIALS THAT 12 MILLION, WASN'T THAT MORE OR LESS A CASH IN INTO THE PROJECT, A PAYMENT INTO THE PROJECT THAT DOESN'T NO LONGER APPEARS AS ASSET. BRIAN, MAYBE YOU CAN ADDRESS WHERE THOSE FALL IN THE CITY, UM, FINANCIALS. BUT ESSENTIALLY IT WAS THE LOANS THAT WERE, THERE WAS THREE LOANS THAT WERE, UM, PROVIDED FOR THE PROPERTY 20 YEARS AGO. SO WHEN WE ROLL OVER THOSE LOANS, WE TOOK THE PRINCIPLE AND THE INTEREST THAT IS ACCRUED TO DATE, AND THAT BECOMES THE NEW PRINCIPLE BALANCE MOVING FORWARD, RIGHT. SO THERE AN ASSET WE REALLY DON'T INTEND TO HAVE REVENUE FROM, AND, AND WE, SINCE WE WANT TO KEEP THE PROCESS PROJECT RUNNING GOT IT. NOT IN THE NEAR TERM, BUT I'LL NOTE THAT, YOU KNOW, NOW THAT WE DON'T HAVE, UM, TAX INCREMENT TO FUND REDEVELOPMENT PROJECTS ANYMORE, UM, THE REVENUE THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FROM REPAYMENT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING LOANS HAS BEEN ROLLED RIGHT BACK INTO PROJECTS AND HAS KEPT A, A PRETTY ROBUST PROGRAM IN, IN PETALUMA BECAUSE OF OUR ROBUST ACTIVITY DURING THE TIME OF, OF REDEVELOPMENT THAT UNFORTUNATELY A LOT OF COMMUNITIES LACK. THEY DON'T HAVE, IT'S NOT COMING BACK. SO, UM, AND IT, AND SO, AND KNOW IT'S, IT'S GONNA DEFER THAT. UM, AND WE'LL SEE, YOU KNOW, THOSE, THERE'S A LOT OF CONTINGENCIES ON ON WHAT, WHEN, WHEN WE SEE THAT REPAYMENT IN TERMS OF WHAT THE, WHAT THE REVENUE AND THE PROJECT BEARS. BUT WE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE, UM, THE EXTENSION OF THE AFFORDABILITY PERIOD AND KIND OF A DOUBLING OF THE TIMEFRAME THAT OH, YEAH. THAT, THAT ACHIEVES. UM, AND AGAIN, JUST NOTING THAT FOR OUR PROGRAM, I MEAN, REALLY WHAT'S KEEPING IT GOING EXCEPT FOR NEW GRANT FUNDS, WHICH OUR TEAM HAS BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB OF SECURING, AS YOU KNOW. BUT, UM, EXCEPT FOR THAT, THESE, THESE MONIES HAVE, HAVE REALLY, UM, BEEN, BEEN IMPORTANT [01:40:01] FOR OUR PROGRAM. YEAH, YOU MAKE, YOU MAKE A VERY GOOD POINT. PET LIMA DID SO WELL DURING THE REDEVELOPMENT ERA. I MEAN, WE OWE, UH, NOTE OF APPRECIATION TO COUNCILS WHO WERE, UH, ENGAGED IN THAT, UH, FORESIGHT AT THAT TIME. UH, THEN THE, THE REPORT ALSO NOTES THE SEVEN AND A HALF PERCENT, UH, MODERATE INCOME, UH, AND SEVEN AND A HALF PERCENT OF THE UNITS TO LOW INCOME. UH, THAT'S, UM, MODERATE IS 80 TO 1:20 AM I, IS THAT RIGHT? AND THEN LOW IS 60 TO 80. SO IN, UH, IN, IN PETALUMA TERMS, THAT'S ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR, I THINK IS A, A M I FOR A SINGLE, SO THAT'S IN A 60 TO 80,000 INCOME RANGE FOR THIS. SO THAT'S, IT'S KIND OF IN AN INTERESTING MIX POINT. AND, AND SO, UM, I AM, I AM OFF TARGET. I APPRECIATE, I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, AND I'LL PASS TO COUNCIL MEMBER HEALEY AT THIS POINT. THANK YOU. I WAS GONNA ACTUALLY FOLLOW A LITTLE BIT ON COUNCIL MEMBER SCH SHRIMP'S, UH, QUESTION. AND THIS MAY BE MORE IN THE NATURE OF A COMMENT THAN A QUESTION, BUT I'LL PUT A QUESTION MARK AT THE END OF IT ANYWAY. SO, UM, TO STAY WITHIN OUR RULES, UM, AND, AND I THINK THERE IS A TEACHABLE MOMENT HERE, UM, IN TERMS OF WANTING TO PUT, UM, PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY, GROUND FLOOR, INTERESTING RETAIL EVERYWHERE WE CAN. UM, AND I THINK WE NEED TO BE REALLY CAREFUL ABOUT THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT THE PEDESTRIAN COUNTS ARE THERE. AND IT, IT'S, IT'S VIABLE FOR A BUSINESS TO ACTUALLY BE IN THAT KIND OF SPACE BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING RID OF A BLIGHT SITUATION BY GETTING RID OF THOSE TWO, UH, TENT, UH, VACANT SPACES THAT HAVE BEEN VACANT FOR MANY, MANY YEARS NOW. AND THE ONLY REASON THE THE RESTAURANTS SURVIVES THERE IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE NICE PATIO OVERLOOKING THE RIVER. UM, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'VE, I'VE SEEN THIS MOVIE BEFORE. UM, THE FIRST STREET APARTMENTS PART OF THE THEATER DISTRICT, UM, ALL THE, ALL THE APARTMENTS FACING FIRST STREET FOR THE FIRST TWO OR THREE BLOCKS WERE, UH, DESIGNED TO LIVE WORK UNITS. AND THE THOUGHT WAS THAT THERE WERE GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, SINGLE, SINGLE SOLE PRACTITIONER ACCOUNTANTS IN THE TOP, THE, LIKE HANGING OUT THEIR SHINGLES ON, ON FIRST STREET. AND THERE'S ZERO OF THAT NOW. AND, YOU KNOW, WE STRUGGLE WITH, UM, VACANT STOREFRONTS AROUND THE PERIPHERY OF THE DOWNTOWN. NOT SO MUCH IN THE CORE, BUT IN THE PERIPHERY OF THE DOWNTOWN. UM, THIS WAS AN ISSUE BOTH WITH PACIFICA, UH, AND WITH A HINZ PROJECT WHEN THEY WERE LOOKING AT, AT, UH, THE, UH, THE SMART PROPERTY AND, YOU KNOW, A PRIVATE DEVELOPER LOOKING AT THESE KINDS OF THINGS. BASICALLY IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A DEAD LOAD. IF WE'RE REQUIRING THEM TO PUT EMPTY SPACE THERE, THEY DON'T THINK THEY CAN LEASE OUT. SO, UH, YOU KNOW, WE CAN TALK ABOUT FLEX SPACE, WHICH THIS IS NOW BECOMING FLEX SPACE BECAUSE OF WE'RE GONNA SUPPORT, UM, UM, THEIR CONVERSION INTO, UM, INTO HOUSING. BUT, UM, I, I THINK WE NEED TO BE REALLY CAREFUL, UM, AROUND THE PERIPHERY OF THE DOWNTOWN AND ON THE ITEM LATER TONIGHT IN REQUIRING, UH, GROUND FLOOR RETAIL WHERE THE PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC MAY NOT ENTICE, UH, A BUSINESS INTO MOVING IN. AND, AND I GUESS, SO I SAID, I PUT A QUESTION MARK AT THE END OF THIS, AND SO THE QUESTION MARK IS HOW, HOW, HOW DO WE KNOW WHEN WE CAN MAKE WE, WE CAN REASONABLY REQUIRE GROUND FLOOR RETAIL UNDER RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE THE, UM, THE FOOT TRAFFIC WILL BE THERE, AND WHEN SHOULD WE BACK AWAY FROM IT? THANK YOU. AND, UM, DO YOU WANT TO ANSWER THAT OR DO YOU WANT TO ASK THAT RHETORIC? YOU DO WANT TO ASK? I THINK BRIAN OAKEN. OKAY. GO AHEAD AND TAKE THAT QUESTION. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY? UH, THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION. UM, I THINK, UM, I WILL CAVEAT THIS WITH, UM, OUR EXISTING POLICIES AND GOALS AROUND MIXED USE AND THE DESIRE TO HAVE THE, THE MIX. AND SO I, I WOULD SAY THAT, UH, PROJECT PROPONENTS ARE BEING RESPONSIVE TO OUR CITY GOALS AND OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES. AND SO WHAT WE SEE FROM, YOU KNOW, THE UPCOMING, UM, ITEM THAT WE HAVE LATER THIS EVENING, THE ITEM THAT WE HAVE BEFORE US IS A RESPONSE, THE MARKET'S RESPONSE, UM, TO OUR CITY GOALS AND POLICIES. SO HAVING SAID THAT, UM, WE ARE STARTING TO EMBARK ON A GENERAL PLAN UPDATE, UM, WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT MUCH MORE FLEXIBILITY POTENTIALLY, UM, UH, WHAT THE NEED LOOKS LIKE POST PANDEMIC AROUND OFFICE AND RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL SPACE, UH, WITH E-COMMERCE. I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, MANY OF THESE CONCEPTS WEREN'T ENVISIONED, UM, DURING THE GENERAL PLAN, UM, THE CURRENT GENERAL PLAN, UM, AND IT'S, UM, UH, CREATION. AND SO, UH, LONG-WINDED WAY TO SAY, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE RECOGNIZE. IT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, IT'S, UH, PETALUMA IS NOT IMMUNE TO IT. IT'S A, IT'S AN ISSUE THAT WE [01:45:01] SEE IN A NUMBER OF CITIES, UM, ACROSS, UH, THE NATION, ACROSS THE REGION. UM, AND SO WE, WE, WE EXPECT, UM, THE GENERAL PLAN UPDATE TO BE RESPONSIVE, UM, ACCORDINGLY. GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND, UH, MOVING IT TO PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME, OPENING THE PUBLIC COMMENT, I HAVE NO CARDS ON THIS ITEM. CAN I ASK THE CLERK IF WE HAVE INPUT EARLY? WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR THIS ITEM. WONDERFUL. UM, THANK YOU. AND TO THE, UH, MODERATOR TO RUN OUR ZOOM INVITATION. THANK YOU, MAYOR. AT THIS TIME, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND IN ZOOM AND YOU'LL BE CALLED ON IN TURN. AND JUST AS A REMINDER, THIS MEETING IS BEING TRANSLATED, SO PLEASE PAUSE BETWEEN SENTENCES AND I SEE, I SEE ONE HAND RAISED. SO DARREN KUEN, YOU MAY UNMUTE AND BEGIN YOUR COMMENTS. THANKS, PATRICK. AND I THINK THIS MAY HAVE BEEN ASKED IN THE COUNCIL, UH, QUESTIONS THAT WERE CIRCULATED WITH THE AGENDA, BUT JUST WHETHER OR NOT THE ISSUANCE OF THIS MONEY AFFECTS FUNDS TOWARD FUTURE AFFORDABLE PROJECTS. UH, AND THEN SECONDLY, JUST WONDERING IF WITH THE REFINANCE, IF PAYING BACK THE, UH, PERMANENT LOAN HOLDERS BETWEEN SUBSIDIES AND RENTS, I ASSUME THE, THE, THE APPLICANTS ARE CONFIDENT IN THEIR ABILITY TO REPAY THOSE LOANS AND A BANK OF AMERICA AS A PARTNER ON THIS. UH, BUT JUST WANNA BE COGNIZANT OF THAT AS WELL, UM, ESPECIALLY AS ENTER KIND OF A PHASE OF CONSTRUCTION WHERE WHO KNOWS WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH CONSTRUCTION COSTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. UM, MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, BUDGETS DON'T BALLOON OUT. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, THAT WITH RENTS AND SUBSIDIES, AND I THINK KIND OF UNDERSTANDING THE CURRENT, UH, VACANCY RATE OR HOW MANY, I GUESS AT THE END OF THE DAY, HOW MANY OF THESE APARTMENTS ARE FILLED, WHAT KIND OF INCOME IS COMING IN, WHETHER THEY ANTICIPATE ANY ISSUES KEEPING UP WITH THE, UH, PAYMENTS TO WHOEVER ENDS UP BEING THE PERMANENT LOAN HOLDERS. SO, UH, JUST MY THOUGHTS ON THAT. THANKS. THANK YOU. AND THAT IS THE LAST HAND RAISED. SO BACK TO YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. UM, THAT CLOSES THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE MATTER FOR THE EVENING, AND I'D LIKE TO BRING IT BACK TO COUNSEL. I'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE THIS ITEM, THE MOTION BY VICE MAYOR KADER THOMPSON AND A MOTION BY, UH, NOW. AND, UM, MAY WE HAVE A ROLL CALL OF THAT BARNICLE AYE. KADER THOMPSON? YES. HEALY, YES. NOW YES. POST. OKAY. YES. TRIPS YES. AND MCDONALD, YES. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WONDERFUL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL. AND THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM 13, AN INTRODUCTION FIRST READING OF, UH, ORDINANCE GRANTING TEMPORARY AND PERMANENT EASEMENTS, AN ADOPTION OF A RESOLUTION GRANTING A LICENSE FOR REPLACEMENT OF PG E GAS MAIN FACILITIES ON THE CITY'S SCHOENBERGER PARK PROPERTY, AND MAKING FINDINGS IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 21 0 81 OF THE PUBLIC RESOURCE CODE. AND SECTION 15 0 96 OF THE C A GUIDELINES THAT CHANGES OR ALTERATIONS HAVE BEEN INCORPORATED IN THE PROJECT, WHICH MITIGATE OR AVOID POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS OF THE PROJECT ON THE ENVIRONMENT, AND THAT THOSE CHANGES OR ALTERATIONS ARE WITHIN THE RESPONSIBILITY AND JURISDICTION OF THE STATE LANDS COMMISSION AS LEAD AGENCY FOR THE PROJECT PURSUANT TO C Q A AND HAVE BEEN ADOPTED BY THE COMMISSION ON AUGUST 17TH. AND, UH, WITH, UH, HELP ON THIS TONIGHT COMING IN, I BELIEVE ON ZOOM IS OUR JEFF STUDSON, OUR DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS. UH, JEFF, YOU'RE ON. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. THANK YOU. UM, I WANNA SHARE MY SCREEN JUST TO SHOW ONE EXHIBIT WHILE I KIND OF WALK THROUGH, UM, THIS ITEM, SO HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS CAN SEE THAT SCREEN. IT SHOULD BE OF A, A MAP OF PG E'S WORK. UM, SO TONIGHT, NOT YET. SO TONIGHT TONIGHT'S ITEM IS, UH, AN ORDINANCE AND ADOPTION OF A GRANTING A LICENSE AGREEMENT FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF A PG E GAS MAIN FACILITY AT SCHOENBERGER PARK. UM, ALSO WITH ME TONIGHT, I HAVE THE PG E TEAM ON ZOOM. SO FOR ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, TECHNICAL OR ENVIRONMENTAL, WE HAVE, WE HAVE THEM FOR, UH, QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, JUDGE. JUST TO BE CLEAR, UH, WE DO NOT SEE YOUR PRESENTATION. OH, SORRY. THANK YOU. THAT, CAN YOU SEE IT NOW? YES, WE CAN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO, FOR SOME BACKGROUND ON THE PG E PROJECT, PG E IS PROPOSING TO REPLACE 1800 [01:50:01] FEET OF SIX, UH, 16 INCH STEEL PIPELINE OF AN EXISTING GAS EXISTING SECTION OF PIPE THAT GOES UNDER THE PETALUMA RIVER AND THROUGH SCHOENBERGER SCHOENBERGER PARK. SO ON THE EXHIBIT ON THE SCREEN, THE BLUE DASH LINE IS THE EXISTING GAS MAIN THAT RUNS UNDER THE RIVER AND THROUGH SCHOENBERGER PARK. AND ON THE MAP, SCHOENBERGER IS KIND OF THE, THE TOP OF THE PHOTO, UM, FOR PG E TO INSTALL THE NEW LINE THROUGH SCHOENBERGER. IT REQUIRES A TEMPORARY AND PERMANENT CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT, UM, FROM THE CITY. SO A SECTION OF PIPE UNDER THE RIVER WILL BE INSTALLED VIA TRENCHLESS TECHNOLOGY CALLED HORIZONTAL DIRECTIONAL DRILLING. AND A SECTION WITHIN THE PARK, WE'LL BE INSTALLED WITH OPEN, OPEN TRENCH EXCAVATION METHOD. SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE ON THE, ON THE MAP THAT THE, THE GREEN PIECE IS A NEW LINE THAT'S GOING UNDER THE RIVER AND HOW IT KIND OF CONNECTS INTO THE EXISTING. SO IT GIVES YOU A GOOD OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE NEW WORK IS AND HOW IT, HOW IT INTERFERES OR OVERLAPS WITH THE SCHOENBERGER PARK. UM, AFTER COMPLETION OF THE NEW PIPE, THE OLD PIPE WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE RIVER AND THE EXISTING PIPE IN THE PARK WILL BE ABANDONED IN, IN PLACE PER PG E'S GUIDELINES AND RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, FOR THIS PROJECT, STATE LANDS WAS A SE A LEAD AND COMPLETED A MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION, AN M M D. THIS WAS POSTED JUNE 15TH, 2023 AND A 30 DAY REVIEW PERIOD, CLOSED JULY 17TH. UM, AND THEN THE CALIFORNIA STATE LANDS COMMISSION APPROVED THIS M M D AT THEIR REGULAR BOARD MEETING ON AUGUST 8TH. SO TO GET KIND OF INTO THE SPECIFICS, UM, PG E'S TIMEFRAME IS REALLY BASED AROUND KIND OF THEIR ENVIRONMENTAL WINDOW THAT WAS WITHIN THE C Q A, THE M M D, AND IT BROKE IT OUT INTO TWO DIFFERENT PHASES. THE FIRST PHASE STARTED, WE'LL START OCTOBER 12TH, 2023, UM, WHICH WILL INCLUDE A PORTION OF THE REPLACEMENT PIPE THAT GOES UNDER THE RIVER, AND THEN TEMPORARY ACCESS IMPROVEMENTS TO BE ABLE TO GET INTO SCHOENBERGER TO DO THE WORK. AND THE SECOND PHASE, WHICH WILL START KIND OF A YEAR FROM NOW IN 2024 IN AUGUST, WILL INCLUDE THE REMOVAL OF THE EXISTING PIPE IN THE RIVER. UM, SIX MONTH TIMEFRAME THAT HAS BEEN GIVEN WILL BE ENOUGH TIME FOR PG E TO BE ABLE TO COMPLETE THE WORK ON THIS CRITICAL PROJECT. DURING PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO OF THIS WORK, THE PARK WILL BE CLOSED TO VISITORS. STAFF HAS WORKED WITH PG E TO ALLOW THE PARK TO BE PARTIALLY OPEN ON SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS AND HOLIDAYS. THE CLOSURE OF PARK WILL HAVE IMPACTS COMMUNITY. SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON A ROBUST PUBLIC OUTREACH TO INFORM THE COMMUNITY OF THE PROJECT AND THE IMPACTS. PART OF THE OUTREACH HAS BEEN PROVIDING A COMMUNITY ALTERNATIVE OPTIONS FOR RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES SUCH AS ALICE CREEK WATER RECYCLING. AND STAFF HAS ALSO BEEN WORKING WITH PETALUMA WETLAND WETLAND ALLIANCE TO PROVIDE ALTERNATIVE LOCATIONS FOR THEIR DOCENT CLASSES. UM, STAFF HAS ALSO BEEN WORKING WITH POINT BLUE TO KEEP THEM IN THE LOOP OF THE PROJECT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR, THEIR PROGRAMS SPECIFICALLY THE STRAW PROGRAM DOESN'T GET INTERRUPTED. UM, SO JUST OVERALL, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE ON THE MAP, THE PINK IS WHAT WE CALL AS A TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT. IT'S THE AREAS THAT PG E NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO GET INTO SCHOENBERGER AND PERFORM THE WORK. UM, ONE PART THAT'S KIND OF HARD TO SEE IS THAT ALONG THE OUTER LINKS OF SCHOENBERGER WILL BE BASICALLY THEIR CONSTRUCTION ACCESS, AND THEN, UM, THE PERMANENT EASEMENT WILL BE WRAPPED AROUND THE BLUE AND THE GREEN LINE FOR THE PER PERMANENT FACILITIES THAT WILL REQUIRE EASEMENTS FOR THEIR WORK. SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I HAVE. UM, I'LL HAND IT OVER TO ERIC FOR ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON KIND OF THE PROCESS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH PG E ON ON THE LEASE AGREEMENTS. UM, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, IF I COULD ADD A FEW THINGS JUST ON THE, ON THE, THE TIMING AND, AND THE, UM, PROCEDURAL PATH FOR THIS PROJECT. SO, AS THE COUNCIL'S FAMILIAR, SECTION 46 OF OUR CHARTER REQUIRES ANY TIME THE CITY'S CONVEYING OR RECEIVING, UM, ESTATES IN LAND WITH A VALUE OF 3000 OR MORE THAT WE HAVE TO DO THAT BY ORDINANCE. UM, AS, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE, UM, FINAL OFFER, UM, IN THE PACKAGE FROM PG E, UM, THAT THIS, WE'RE WELL ABOVE THAT IN THIS CASE. SO ORDINANCE IS REQUIRED FOR THE PERMANENT AND TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENTS THAT PG E REQUIRES FOR THESE FACILITIES, THESE, UM, UPGRADED FACILITIES. UM, AND THOSE ARE IN THE PACKAGE, UM, AND THE ORDINANCE, UM, TO, TO, TO, UM, APPROVE THOSE. BUT THERE'S A TIMING ISSUE. UM, THERE WERE A COUPLE ACTUALLY. AND THE FIRST WAS THAT WE NEEDED TO AWAIT THE, UM, COMPLETION OF [01:55:01] THE STATE LANDS C Q A PROCESS FOR THIS PROJECT, UM, BEFORE IT COULD COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL BECAUSE IT'S A C Q L PROJECT. UM, AND, UM, THE CITY'S ACTIONS HERE ARE DISCRETIONARY AND THE CITY'S NOT THE LEAD AGENCY, THE STATE LANDS COMMISSION IS. SO WE AWAITED THAT STAFF PROVIDED SOME VERY THOROUGH COMMENTS FROM, FROM THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS, UM, UM, TO THE STATE LANDS. THEY PROVIDE THEIR RESPONSES, THOSE ARE ALL IN THE MATERIALS. UM, THEY'VE BEEN RESPONSIVE, UM, TO THE CITY'S CONCERNS AND ADDRESS THEM, UM, IN THE PROJECT DETAILS. UM, SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE PG E TEAM, LEGAL AND PRO PROGRAM TO STAY ON THEIR TIMELINE FOR ABOUT A MID-OCTOBER START. UM, AND THAT HAS REQUIRED THE LICENSE, THAT WOULD GIVE THEM A SITE, UM, A RE A RESOLUTION THAT WOULD APPROVE A SITE LICENSE, UM, THAT WOULD TAKE IMMEDIATE EFFECT. WE'VE GOT A COUPLE THINGS TO IRON OUT AND, AND, UH, UM, THE RISK ALLOCATION PROVISIONS IN THE, UH, LICENSE. UM, AND THERE'S SOME FLEXIBILITY THAT THE RESOLUTION WILL GRANT THE MANAGER TO, UM, SO THAT WE CAN FINALIZE THAT IF YOU APPROVE THIS ACTION TONIGHT. BUT THAT WILL KEEP PG E ON TRACK BECAUSE WE'RE, UM, YOU KNOW, ALMOST A MONTH AHEAD OF THEIR CONSTRUCTION START. UM, AND WHAT THIS DOES IS, UM, IT, IT'S A, IT'S BEEN HELPFUL COOPERATION IN TERMS OF REALLY GOOD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE PROJECT IMPACTS AND WAYS TO ADDRESS THEM, BUT ALSO TO AVOID UNNECESSARY COSTS AND, UM, LITIGATION. BECAUSE THE ALTERNATIVE THAT PG E HAS, IF THE COUNCIL, IF THE CITY COUNCIL DOESN'T TAKE THIS ROUTE WITH THIS TIMING, WHICH IS A LITTLE TRICKY, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF, OF TIME CUSHION, UM, IS FOR THEM TO BRING CONDEMNATION ACTION, WHICH IS GONNA REQUIRE, YOU KNOW, LEGAL REPRESENTATION FOR BOTH PARTIES, DELAY THE PROJECT, ET CETERA. AND, AND I DON'T, IN OUR VIEW, THERE'S, THERE'S NOT A NEED FOR THAT BECAUSE THE LEVEL OF COOPERATION WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACHIEVE. SO, UM, I, THAT INCLUDES THE REMARKS I WANTED TO MENTION, MR. MAYOR. SO YOU, YOU WANTED TO ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THE, UM, THE PIPELINE THAT'S GONNA BE ABANDONED IN PLACE. AND WHAT I'LL NOTE AS AN INTRODUCTORY IS WE ASKED ABOUT THAT TOO AND ALSO SUGGEST IT AND THE SE Q A AND, AND THE REASON FOR, FOR DOING THAT IS IT'S, IT'S LESS, UM, IT'S LESS IMPACT ON THE WETLANDS TO, TO LEAVE IT THERE THAN ALL THE, THE EXCAVATION THAT WE'RE WOULD, WOULD BE REQUIRED TO MOVE IT. THE REMOVAL AND THE, YOU MAY NOT BE ON THE SAME PAGE. I, WE CAN GO TO COUNCIL QUESTIONS AND I'LL ASK THEN AND GREAT. AND I, I DON'T, I'M NOT TRYING TO CUT YOU OFF. I JUST WANNA BE RESPONSIVE TO YOUR NOTE, BUT ALSO TO ADD SOMETHING THAT I DON'T THINK JEFF MENTIONED, IF YOU, IF YOU DID, I APOLOGIZE. UM, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT DETAIL. IT'S, AGAIN, IT'S PART OF THE WAYS IN WHICH THE PROJECT IS RESPONSIVE TO ISSUES AFFECTING THE CITY. UM, THE SECTION OF PIPE THAT IS GONNA BE REMOVED THAT'S IN THE RIVER OR BENEATH THE RIVER, IS GONNA BE MADE MUCH. THE NEW ONE IS GONNA BE MUCH DEEPER. SO IT'S NOT GONNA INTERFERE WITH THE DREDGING GOING FORWARD, UM, WHICH WAS A BIG CONCERN FOR US AND ADDRESSING THIS ECO MATERIALS AND AS PART OF OUR PREPARING TO KEEP THE NAVIGABLE WATERWAY NAVIGABLE. SO THANK YOU. IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS, BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS 'EM. UM, BRINGING IT BACK TO COUNCIL, I GUESS I'M FIRST UP ON QUESTIONS THEN , SO THAT QUESTION, UH, AND, AND I APPRECIATE THAT. I THINK THAT'S MOST OF THE ANSWER. UH, IT'S IT, UH, AND I APOLOGIZE TO STAFF FOR NOT HAVING GOTTEN THIS INTO, UM, EARLY ON QUESTIONS SO THEY COULD HAVE, UH, PREPARED ANSWERS TO US DIRECTLY PRIOR TO MEETING, BUT I JUST CAME ACROSS THIS IDEA AND IT HAS TO DO WITH THE REMOVAL OF THE PIPE, RIGHT? SO, UM, REMOVING THE PIPE IS, UM, ALWAYS, UM, A DESTRUCTIVE PROCESS DISTURBANCE IN THE ENVIRONMENT. AND I THOUGHT, IS THERE A BETTER ALTERNATIVE? PROBABLY THE, THE DEAL BREAKER ANSWER IS THAT IT'S IN THE NAVIGABLE WAY. IT'S NOT DEEP ENOUGH. AND SO IT CAN'T HAVE A REUSED PURPOSE, BUT I DO SEE VERY OFTEN THAT, UH, UH, PIPELINES ARE SLIP LINED OR OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, UM, RE REPURPOSED AFTER USE AND, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S WATER LINES BEING, UH, REPURPOSED FOR TELECOMMUNICATION LINES OR, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OLD SEWER LINE NEEDING, UH, COMING OUT AND A SMALLER ONE, UH, INSERTED FOR DIFFERENT PURPOSES. AND, AND I'VE DONE SOME OF THESE AND I'M JUST WONDERING, UH, IF STAFF HAS HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THAT AND, UH, IF THERE, IS THERE ANY OPPORTUNITY OR ARE THERE DEAL BREAKERS IN THAT IDEA? I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE JEFF FROM, FROM PG AND E AND MAYBE EVEN LAUREN, UM, TO HELP ANSWER THAT QUESTION. I, I THINK THAT REQUIREMENT FOR THE, UM, THE PIPE IN IN THE RIVER TO TO BE REMOVED WAS, IS MORE A REGULATORY REQUIREMENT. UM, I THINK IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN FROM THE COAST GUARD, BUT I THINK THEY COULD HELP ANSWER THAT QUESTION A LITTLE BETTER IF WE COULD. YEAH. THANK YOU. SO THIS IS JEFF AUER, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL [02:00:01] PLANNING WITH PG E. SO EARLY ON, UH, IN KIND OF THE SCOPING FOR THIS PROJECT, WE HAD TO SIT DOWN WITH THE STATE LANDS COMMISSION AND THE DREDGE MATERIAL MANAGEMENT OFFICE, THAT IT'S A GROUP AT THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS THAT CONDUCTS THE DREDGING IN THE RIVER. UM, WE PROPOSED LEAVING IT IN PLACE AS AN OPTION, UM, AND THEY KIND OF WERE VERY CLEAR THAT IT WAS A NON-NEGOTIABLE, UH, SO REMOVING THE EXISTING LINE AS IS, UH, LIKE A CONDITION OF THEIR APPROVAL, UH, BECAUSE OF THE ISSUES WITH THE DREDGING PROGRAM. SO REMOVING IT DOES JUST MAKE THAT PROGRAM SAFER AND REMOVE THAT BURDEN FROM THAT PROGRAM. SO, ALRIGHT, LET ME PHRASE THE QUESTION DIFFERENTLY. UM, UH, ANY REGULATOR WOULD, UM, ASK YOU TO REMOVE AN ABANDONED FACILITY, BUT, UM, IF IT HAD A REPURPOSE, THEY WOULD LOOK AT IT IN A DIFFERENT LIGHT. AND PERHAPS WHAT I'M ASKING YOU IS, CAN WE PUT A CLAUSE INTO THE PG E AGREEMENT THAT LETS, ALLOWS THE CITY TO EVALUATE ITS BENEFICIAL USE FOR THE PERIOD BETWEEN, UH, NOW AND WHEN PG E PROPOSES TO REMOVE IT, JUST TO GIVE US CHANCE TO, TO MAKE, TO SEE WHETHER IT FITS INTO ANY OF OUR PLANS. WE'VE HAD TALK ABOUT RECYCLED WATER REACHING THE WEST SIDE OF THE FREEWAY, AND, UH, IT, IT COULD BE IDEAL FOR THAT USE. IT COULD ALSO NOT MEET THE NEEDS OF THAT USE, BUT, UH, IF IT WAS SLIP LINE WITH H D P, IT WOULD, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'D BE ABLE TO PULL IT UP AND ELIMINATE THE MOST EXPENSIVE EFFORT IN THERE. UM, UH, UH, COUNCIL CAN'T KNOW THE ANSWERS TO THOSE QUESTIONS, BUT IT, IT COULD PRESERVE AT THIS TIME AN OPTION TO GO DOWN THAT PATH FOR THE PERIOD WHERE IT DOESN'T INCONVENIENCE PG E TO DO SO. WOULD A CLAUSE LIKE THAT WORK? I GUESS MY RESPONSE TO THAT, SO WE'RE OBLIGATED TO REMOVE THAT PIPELINE FROM THE RIVER. UH, WE CANNOT MOVE FORWARD WITH THE INSTALLATION OF A NEW LINE WITHOUT THAT AGREEMENT THAT THAT EXISTING LINE IS, WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE RIVER. RIGHT. BUT ADDING A CLAUSE, GIVING THE CITY A CHANCE TO REVIEW IT AND PERHAPS PETITION IT, UM, IS, IS NOT, IS, IS NOT IMPEDING YOUR START, YOU STILL WOULD BE CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATED TO REMOVE UNLESS APPEALED BY THE CITY AND APPEALED TO STATE LANDS, ET CETERA. WELL, I THINK WHAT WE'RE HEARING MR. MAYOR, IS THAT IT'S ACTUALLY A PERMIT CONDITION. SO THE WORK CAN'T HAPPEN OTHERWISE. I I'M NOT, AM I CORRECT IN THAT? YES. YEAH. OUR PERMITS FOR THIS PROJECT ARE CONDITIONAL ON OR MOVING THE LINE FROM THE RIVER. NOW THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME ABANDONED PIPE THAT'S IN SCHOENBERGER, NOT UNDERLYING THE RIVER, BUT I THINK YOUR FOCUS IN TERMS OF USEFULNESS IS ON WHAT CROSSES THE RIVER. BUT, UM, I, I, I MEAN, I THINK, I THINK BASED ON WHAT WE'RE HEARING AND WHAT I WAS AWARE OF BUT BEFORE TONIGHT IS, UM, THE REMOVAL REQUIREMENT IS, UM, IS CRITICAL PATH CONDITION OF FROM, UM, I GUESS IT'S ARMY CORPS, IS THAT RIGHT? IS THE YEAH, IT'S, YEAH, IT'S THE D M M O FOR THE ARMY CORPS. IT'S THE, THE SECTION 4 0 8 VIEW FROM THE CORE. RIGHT. SO, SO THE CONDITION YOU'RE SUGGESTING MR. MAYOR IN THIS CASE, UM, IS, IS TANDEM ONED TO SAYING, YOU KNOW, IS TO, UH, TO THE CITY SEEKING PERMISSION TO, UM, UM, FAIL TO SATISFY A CRITICAL CONDITION FOR THEIR PERMIT? I WOULD, I WOULD THINK THAT WE COULD BE CLEVER IN THEIR WRITING AND SAY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE COULD MEET TERMS OF THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WOULDN'T SAY THAT IT COMES OUT OF A PG E CONSTRUCTION. ALL WE SAY IS WE GET AN OPTION TO PITCH WHETHER OUR PROJECT SHOULD HELP IN THIS. YOU KNOW, I'M NOT HOPEFUL, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT TRYING TO BE ARGUMENTATIVE, BUT I'M NOT HOPEFUL OF THAT BECAUSE I'VE SEEN THOSE CONDITIONS, UM, AND DISCUSSION OF THEM. AND THE KEY IS THE DEPTH AND IT'S GONNA BE MUCH, I DON'T KNOW, UM, THAT'S WHERE WE STARTED THIS CONVERSATION. IS THERE A DEAL BREAKER? AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S A BREAKER. I REALLY THINK, I MEAN, AND, AND THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENTIAL AND I, AND, AND PG E COLLEAGUE, IF YOU CAN CLARIFY WHAT THAT IS, I'VE FORGOTTEN IT. UM, YEAH, I, I, I'VE DONE THAT. I UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WORKS. UH, ALL RIGHT, I'LL LET GO OF THE IDEA. SORRY. UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE COUNCIL, COUNCIL MEMBER HEALY? THANK YOU. I HAD A, A FEW QUESTIONS HERE. FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS ONLY ONE OF TWO, UM, PG E GAS TRANSMISSION LINES ACROSS SCHOENBERGER PARK AND GO ACROSS THE RIVER TO TRANSPORT NATURAL GRASS INTO MARIN. UM, AND I WAS WONDERING IF THERE'S ANY EXPECTATION THAT THE, UH, SECOND GAS PIPELINE WILL NEED TO BE REPLACED AT ANY TIME IN THE NEAR FUTURE? I'LL, I'LL, I'LL START, UH, TALKING WITH, UM, PG E THIS MORNING. UM, THERE, THERE [02:05:01] ARE NO PLANS AT THIS POINT TO HAVE ANY, UM, MAIN ACTIVITIES OUTSIDE OF THEIR NORMAL KIND OF INSPECTIONS ON THE SECONDARY LINE. UM, SO THERE, THERE IS NO FUTURE WORK PLAN, BUT IF JEFF OR LAUREN HAVE HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, PLEASE SPEAK UP. SO I DON'T HEAR ANYONE JUMPING IN. THANKS FOR THAT. AND THEN IN PG E'S JUNE 6TH LETTER, THE OFFER OF A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR THIS, UM, ACTION TONIGHT WAS SPECIFICALLY CONDITIONED ON THE CITY GRANTING THE EXECUTED EASEMENTS BY NO LATER THAN JUNE 21. AND WE'RE A COUPLE MONTHS PAST THAT. NOW, IS THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS STILL ON THE TABLE? AND DO WE HAVE THAT IN WRITING? WE, WE DON'T HAVE THAT IN WRITING. AND I GUESS THAT'S A QUESTION FOR PG AND E, I THINK. AND, AND THE OFFER WAS UPDATED SEVERAL TIMES BECAUSE OF TIMING ISSUES. IT SEEMS LIKE THAT, THAT THAT ONE NEEDS TO BE UPDATED, AND I THINK THE COUNCIL COULD SO DIRECT, I DUNNO IF THERE'S, IF THERE'S PG E IS ON THE LINE, I WISH, I HOPE THEY WOULD RESPOND. RIGHT. HI, THIS IS, THIS IS LAUREN, LIAM SAC. UH, MELINDA, ARE YOU ABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION? AND MAYBE WE CAN TAKE IT BACK TO, UH, JAMIE WITH THE, OUR RIGHT OF WAY AGENT. THIS IS THE MODERATOR. I DON'T SEE A MELINDA ON HERE. IS THAT THE PERSON THAT'S HERE BY PHONE? OH, SORRY. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME'S LINDA RIVERA. I WORK FOR PJ COUNCIL. SO, YEAH. UH, AN ANSWER TO LAUREN'S QUESTION, I BELIEVE. THANK YOU. UH, SO I BELIEVE WE DID SEND OUT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, WE SENT A FEW FINAL OFFER LETTERS. I THINK WE HAD LIKE A FIRST AND A SECOND AND POSSIBLY A THIRD FINAL OFFER LETTER. SO, UM, PER THE PROJECT MANAGER'S SUGGESTION, WE CAN DEFINITELY WORK WITH, UM, CITY STAFF AND TAKE THAT BACK AND UPDATE THAT LANGUAGE. OKAY. SO THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IS STILL ON THE TABLE IF WE APPROVE THIS TONIGHT. THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING. AGAIN, THE PROJECT MANAGER IS ON THE PHONE, SO I WOULD THINK THAT, UM, IF SHE HAS ENCOURAGED US TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, THEN THAT WE CAN DO SO. I, I AM NOT THE LAND AGENT, BUT, BUT YEAH, YOU JUST HEARD THE PROJECT MANAGER SAY THAT. YES. THAT OFFER IS STILL ON THE TABLE. OKAY, THANK YOU. AND THEN LASTLY, WE GOT TWO LETTERS FROM SUSAN KIRKS TODAY RAISING VARIOUS ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS. I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF THOSE HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED. WE HAVE STAFF HERE TONIGHT TO, I, I DON'T, I DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIEW MS. KIRK'S SUBMISSIONS, BUT WE HAVE STAFF HERE WHO HELPED WITH REVIEWING THE STATE LAND SE DOCUMENT, UM, AND THE COMMENTS THAT WE PUT IN THE RECORD REGARDING THAT. SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO HELP RESPOND, IF YOU CAN. SORRY FOR THE POP QUIZ. OLIVIA, UH, GOOD EVENING. OLIVIA URBAN, UH, PRINCIPAL ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNER. UH, WHAT I CAN SAY IS THAT, UH, I DID LOOK AT MS. KIRK'S, UH, EMAIL, UH, CORRESPONDENCE VERY BRIEFLY THIS AFTERNOON. UM, THE C A DOCUMENT HAS, UH, THE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT WAS OPENED AND, UH, COMPLETED. AND SO THE CITY HAS REVIEWED, UM, AND PROVIDED COMMENTS TO STATE LANDS. AND THOSE WERE ADDRESSED AND HAS, UH, DETERMINED THAT THE, THE ENVIRONMENTAL WAS ADEQUATE. UM, AND SO TO REOPEN, UH, THAT, OR EXTEND THAT THIS TIME WAS, UM, IS, WAS NOT WHAT WE HAD, UH, CONCLUDED, UH, BASED ON THAT REVIEW. SO THERE WAS THE, SEVERAL OF THE CONCERNS THAT MS. KIRK RAISED WERE, UH, IN REGARDS TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSIDERATIONS. AND ALL OF THOSE WERE, UH, APPEARED TO HAVE BEEN ADEQUATELY ADDRESSED IN THE MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION THAT WAS, UH, CERTIFIED BY THE STATE LANDS. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, COUNCIL MEMBER . THANKS. I, UM, I JUST WANTED TO ADD, BECAUSE NO ONE ELSE HAS MENTIONED IT IN THIS LITTLE DISCUSSION, UH, THAT SEEMED TO ME THAT HER, HER MAJOR ISSUE WAS, UM, UM, TAKING DOWN THE CCLU, THE EXCLUSION FENCE FOR THE HARVEST MOUSE, UH, BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, THESE TWO, THREE MONTH EPISODES OF WORK. AND THAT, AND THEN SHE ALSO PROVIDED A, A, A NOTE, AN EMAIL SHE GOT BACK FROM, UH, UH, I THINK IT WAS STATE FISH AND FISH AND WILDLIFE THAT WHERE THEY SAID, YES, IT WOULD BE OUR RECOMMENDATION TO TAKE THIS DOWN. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ALREADY BEEN ADDED TO TAKE IT DOWN OR, OR NOT, BUT, UH, [02:10:01] I CAN, UH, ADD ALSO, UH, SO THE, UH, DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND WILDLIFE IS AS THE CITY IS A RESPONSIBLE AGENCY IN ISSUING, UM, DISCRETIONARY REVIEW AND PERMITS. AND THEY HAVE FILED A NOTICE OF DETERMINATION THAT IS POSTED ON THE STATE CLEARING HOUSE, WHICH INDICATES THAT THEY HAVE, UH, SIMILARLY REVIEWED THE MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION AND MADE A DETERMINATION THAT THEY CAN ISSUE THEIR PERMITS BASED ON THE INFORMATION IN THAT DOCUMENT. SO HOPEFULLY THAT HELPS AS WELL. AND THIS IS JEFF CHAR FROM PG E I. I CAN ALSO CONFIRM WE WOULD TAKE DOWN THAT EXCLUSION FENCE BETWEEN THE TWO PHASES. UM, SO I THINK THAT KINDA HELPS RELIEVE THAT ISSUE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER REBS? OKAY. JUST AS A, UM, UH, A CHECK ON THE ACTUAL EVENTS. I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THE, THE PIPELINE ITSELF, BUT HAVING, UH, WORKED OUT THERE FOR SEVERAL YEARS, PULLING WEEDS AND THE, LIKE, I'VE BEEN WATCHING THE, UM, THE NEW PIPELINE ACROSS THE RIVER THAT WAS INSTALLED. SO I ASSUME THAT THIS IS CONNECTING UP WITH THAT NEW PIPELINE THAT WAS PUT IN, I GUESS A YEAR OR TWO AGO. IS THAT CORRECT? AND THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION TO PG E YES. I'M UNSURE OF THE PIPELINE THAT WAS, UM, INSTALLED A YEAR OR TWO AGO. DO YOU KNOW WHERE EXACTLY WHERE THAT WAS? UH, BASICALLY RIGHT AT THE END WHERE, WHERE THE, WHERE YOU'RE COMING UP INTO THE, UM, THE OLD LINE RIGHT THERE AND GOING DOWN SOUTH, UH, TO NOVATO. UM, I OBSERVED THERE WAS LOTS OF NEW, NEW PIPELINE THAT WAS LAID INTO THE GROUND AT, UM, AT THAT TIME. 'CAUSE SOME, SOME OF THE PIPES WERE, THERE WAS A LEAKAGE DOWN THERE, UM, A YEAR OR TWO AGO THAT WAS ALL REPAIRED UP. SO I ASSUME THAT'S THE SAME LINE. CORRECT. UH, JEFF SIC ARE WE, ARE YOU ABLE TO BRING UP THAT SLIDESHOW AGAIN? YES, I CAN GIMME ONE. YES. SO WHERE THE RIGHT SOUTH OF THE PETALUMA RIVER, UM, RIGHT THERE, THERE WAS A LEAKAGE THAT HAPPENED ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO THAT WE DID REPLACE. UM, THAT IS, WE ARE TYING INTO THAT EXISTING LINE WHERE YOU SEE THE GREEN MEETS THE BLUE. OKAY, GOOD. UH, JUST AS, AS A CHECK ON THAT, BECAUSE THE, UM, 'CAUSE THE OLD LINE, THERE IS A, UH, A BUNCH OF PIPES THAT COME OUT, UH, NOT IN SCHOENBERGER, BUT IN ELLIS CREEK RIGHT THERE. IT'S NOT QUITE ON THE MAP. UH, IT'S A LITTLE BIT TO THE, I WOULD SAY THE, UM, THE SOUTH, UH, OF WHERE THAT LINE IS. BUT THERE IS SOME PIPES THAT COMING OUTTA THE GROUND, UH, UM, UH, THAT BASICALLY, UM, LOOKS LIKE BACKUP PRESSURES OR, OR WAYS TO GET INTO THE LINE, IS THAT STILL BE ABLE TO USE, 'CAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE BYPASSING THAT, UM, THAT PARTICULAR OPERATION AND WITH THAT PLATFORM AND METAL, UH, AND ALL THAT METAL THAT'S STICKING UP OUTTA THE GROUND, WILL THAT BE REMOVED? 'CAUSE THAT'S RIGHT. PART OF THE WETLANDS RIGHT THERE IS IT WHERE JEFF IS SHOWING WHERE HIS MOUSE WAS IN THE CORNER. OKAY. IF YOU COME DOWN, COME DOWN. OKAY. RIGHT ABOUT THERE. YEAH, RIGHT ABOUT THERE. THERE IS A, UM, A PLATFORM, UH, THAT, UH, IS MANAGED BY PG E AND IT'S, IT'S THE OLD PIPELINES THAT ARE COMING THROUGH, BUT IT'S A BUNCH OF STANDUP PIPES ARE, ARE COMING UP OUTTA THE GROUND THERE. I WAS WONDERING IF THAT'S PART OF THAT SYSTEM AND IF THAT'S GONNA GET REMOVED. SO THERE IS SOME, THERE IS A VALVE BLOCK THAT IS, UH, TO THE LEFT WHERE THAT BLUE IS, UM, THE BLUE LINE WHERE THOSE PIPES ARE COMING OUT OF THE GROUND. THOSE, THAT IS A VALVE LOT THAT WILL BE REMOVED, BUT THAT WILL BE REMOVED IN 2024. OKAY, GOOD. UH, UM, AND THEN I WAS OUT IN THE FIELD THERE, UH, A COUPLE YEARS AGO WHEN, UH, THERE'S PG E SOME BIOLOGISTS, UH, FROM PG E WERE OUT THERE LOOKING FOR IT, BUT THEY WERE WAY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF, UH, LOOKING AT, I GUESS THAT OTHER LINE THAT WAS BEING PROPOSED. SO I ASSUME YOU ALSO HAVE THE BIOLOGICAL STUDIES. WERE ALL, HAVE ALL BEEN, UH, SURVEYED THAT THE SAME TYPES OF FOLKS WERE, HAVE ALREADY ALL SURVEYED THIS AREA IN THE SAME WAY THAT THOSE FOLKS WERE THEN. THAT THAT WAS, THIS IS A NEW SURVEY THAT WAS DONE RECENTLY? YEAH, WE, WE'VE SURVEYED THE PARK A LOT OF TIMES FOR THE PROJECTS WORKING WITH THE AGENCIES ON THE PERMITS. THERE'S ALSO BEEN SURVEYS ONGOING THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THIS YEAR. UM, C D F W AND THE UNITED STATES FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE BOTH REQUIRE PROTOCOL SURVEYS FOR PREPARING TO DO JOBS LIKE THIS. SO, UH, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT CADENCE, BUT AT LEAST ONCE OR TWICE A MONTH WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THESE SITES, UM, PRETTY MUCH ALL YEAR LONG. SO WE'RE, WE'RE VERY AWARE OF THE SPECIES THAT ARE THERE NOW AND, AND HISTORICALLY. GOOD. SO JUST AS, AS A CHECK, UH, SO SUSAN KIRKS WAS BRINGING UP SPECIFIC SPECIES, UH, THE CLAPPER RAIL, UM, SALTWATER HARVEST MOUSE. HAVE ANY OF THOSE SPECIES THAT SHE WAS IDENTIFYING ACTUALLY BEEN FOUND IN, IN, IN THE AREA THAT'S GONNA BE WORKED BY SURVEY? [02:15:01] ABSOLUTELY. SO, SO THEY, THEY'RE PRESENT IN SCHOENBERGER. UH, WE'LL, WE'RE WELL AWARE OF IT. UM, A LOT OF THE TIMING FOR THIS PROJECT IS AIMED AROUND THOSE ALLOWABLE WORK WINDOWS. UM, SO I, I BELIEVE THERE'S SOME CONCERNS WITH PHASE TWO, UM, STATING LIKE AUGUST. SO THAT AUGUST POTENTIAL IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE RIVER, FURTHER AWAY FROM HABITAT FOR SALT, HARVEST, MOUSE AND CLAPPER, UH, UH, BLACK RAIL. UM, SO IF OUR BIOLOGISTS CONFIRMED THAT THERE ISN'T NESTING ON THE SOUTH SIDE, THAT'S WHEN AUGUST WOULD COME INTO PLAY. UH, YOU REALLY CAN'T WORK SCHOENBERGER, UM, UNTIL AFTER NINE ONE 'CAUSE OF THE RAIL ISSUES. UM, IT'S AWESOME THAT THEY'RE THERE. UM, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT HABITAT. SO WE'RE GONNA RESPECT THOSE WORK WINDOWS AND OUR BIOS WILL BE OUT THERE FULL TIME, UH, MONITORING AND, AND SURVEYING AHEAD OF TIME. OKAY. UH, ONE OF THE REASONS I'M ASKING, 'CAUSE THE SALTWATER HARVEST SPOUSE, WE'VE BEEN, UM, WE HAVEN'T GONE OUT AND SURVEYED IT OURSELVES. UM, BUT DURING, THERE WAS SOME TIME THAT WE DID SOME CLEARING, AND I THINK THEY MAY HAVE SPOTTED ONE MOUSE, POSSIBLY WAS IDENTIFIED BY A BIOLOGIST WORKING WITH THE MOWERS. AND SO IT'D BE REALLY NICE TO ACTUALLY HAVE POSITIVE, UM, EVIDENCE THAT THE SALTWATER HARVEST MOUSE ACTUALLY EXISTS IN THIS AREA. 'CAUSE WE'RE, WE'VE CREATED ALL THIS HABITAT, IT'D BE REALLY NICE TO HAVE THAT, THOSE NUMBERS. SO DO WE ACTUALLY HAVE SURVEY NUMBERS THAT THE SALTWATER HARVEST MOUSE IS ACTUALLY THERE? UM, I CAN CHECK WITH OUR BIOLOGIST AND SEE IF WE HAVE ANY POSITIVE IDS. UM, WE'RE HAPPY TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION. I, I CAN'T RECALL OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. AND THEN OF COURSE, IF WE SAW ONE WE'RE OUT IN THE FIELD, WE'D, UH, RELAY THAT INFORMATION TO THE CITY. RIGHT? 'CAUSE THAT SECTION OF THE SCHOENBERGER WAS DESIGNATED AS A SALTWATER MOUSE HABITAT. AND SO WE'VE WORKED ON IT AND I'M, I'M PERSONALLY CON WORKING ON IT MYSELF, UH, CLEARING OUT WEEDS, MAYBE POSSIBLY PLANTING. SO IT'D JUST BE NICE TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION IF, IF THAT SURVEYS HAVE BEEN DONE. UM, AND WE KNOW WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS AND COULD DO MORE WORK THAN IN THAT AREA. UM, THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND, UM, OH, ONE MORE. SORRY, THAT'S ONE LAST ONE I FORGOT. JUST THE PIPES GOING UNDERGROUND, UH, SINCE THEY'RE GOING 60 FEET, IS MOST OF THE EQUIPMENT BASICALLY GONNA BE AT THE FRONT END AND BACK END OF WHERE THOSE POINTS ARE? AND NOT MUCH ACTUALLY, UM, BETWEEN THE LINES ABOVE GROUND SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT BENCHES OR KIOSKS OR OTHER THINGS GETTING DISTURBED OUT THERE? UNLESS, DO YOU NEED TO DISTURB ANYTHING FOR THE TRUCKS COMING IN AND OUT? I'M GONNA HAVE JOE QUIS OUR CONSTRUCTION. UH, ANSWER THAT ONE. ALL RIGHT. AM I ON? YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO PROTECT, UH, THE BENCHES OUT THERE. WE KNOW THAT THOSE, A LOT OF 'EM ARE MEMORIAL BENCHES OR, YOU KNOW, PUT THERE IN, IN, IN MEMORY OF A, A PERSON OR A, A, A ORGANIZATION THAT, THAT SUPPORTED THE PARK OVER THE YEARS. SO OUR PLAN AT THIS POINT IS WHILE WE HAVE ACTIVE TRAFFIC, WE'RE GONNA PUT, UH, LIKE A WATER-FILLED TRAFFIC BARRIER AT THE EDGE OF EACH ONE OF THOSE CONCRETE PADS THAT THEY SIT ON SO THAT WE, YOU KNOW, CREATE A VERY VISUAL AND, AND SORT OF A, A DETERRENT FOR ANY VEHICLES PASSING BY THERE. SO WE DON'T GET INTO THOSE. UM, I, I, I THINK THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA BE SUCCESSFUL IF THERE ARE, ONCE WE GET OUT THERE, ANY OF THOSE THAT NEED TO BE, UH, YOU KNOW, RELOCATED, WE'LL WORK WITH THE CITY TO, UM, YOU KNOW, DO THAT AND THEN PUT 'EM BACK WHERE THEY WERE, UH, AT THE END. OKAY. THANK YOU. 'CAUSE I ENDED UP, UH, WORKING WITH THE, UM, FINDING OUT THE KIOSK THAT HAD TO BE REPLACED IN BENCHES WHEN THE DREDGING MACHINERY WAS IN THAT EXACT SAME SPOT. SO THAT'S WHY I'M JUST WORRIED ABOUT IT. BUT THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND WITH NO MORE, UH, COMMENT ON OR HER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL, WE'LL TAKE IT TO A PUBLIC COMMENT HERE. AND I HAVE NO CARDS AT THIS TIME. I'LL ASK IF WE RECEIVED ANY EARLIER. YES, WE RECEIVED TWO PUBLIC COMMENTS AND THOSE ARE ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA ONLINE. WONDERFUL. THANK YOU. AND, UH, LET'S INVITE OUR ZOOM AUDIENCE IN. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM. PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND IN ZOOM AND YOU'LL BE CALLED ON IN TURN, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES IN WHICH TO GIVE YOUR COMMENTS. AND PLEASE REMEMBER THAT THIS MEETING IS BEING TRANSLATED. SO PLEASE PAUSE BETWEEN THE SENTENCES AT THIS TIME. WE HAVE ONE HAND RAISE AND THAT'S SUSAN KIRK. SO SUSAN, YOU MAY UNMUTE AND BEGIN YOUR COMMENTS. HI, GOOD EVENING, SUSAN KIRKS. UM, I WANNA THANK, UH, DR. SKE, COUNCIL MEMBER SKE FOR RAISING THE, UH, QUESTION THAT WAS UNANSWERED FOR [02:20:01] WHICH WE RECEIVED A RESPONSE FROM CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND WILDLIFE TODAY. THEY WERE KIND ENOUGH TO GIVE THEIR RESPONSE. UM, SO THAT, THAT WAS THE QUESTION ABOUT THE EXCLUSIONARY FENCING FOR THE SALT MARSH HARVEST SPOUSE. AND I APPRECIATE THAT THE PERSON FROM PG AND E RESPONDED TO THAT. AND I'M REPRESENTING MADONE AUDUBON IN OUR SUB SUBMISSION OF COMMENTS AND THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE RAISED. UM, AND, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS THE FIRST THAT WE LEARNED OF THE PROJECT. UM, SO WE DON'T REALLY MONITOR DIFFERENT CLEARING HOUSES OR PLACES FOR PROJECTS AND ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEWS, BUT OF COURSE, WE TAKE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS AT SHERLIN BERGER PARK VERY SERIOUSLY. AND I APPRECIATE THE MENTION ABOUT THE BLACK RAIL, THE RIDGEWAYS RAIL RAIL, WHICH USED TO BE NAMED CLAPPER RAIL, AND THE SALT MARSH HARVEST MOUSE. AND I WOULD JUST SAY FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COUNCIL, THAT WHEN YOU SEE PICKLEWEED ANYWHERE AT SCHOENBERGER, UH, ALMOND MARSH, IF IT'S OVER AT ELLIS CREEK, YOU MUST ASSUME THAT THE SALT MARSH HARVEST MOUSE IS IN RESIDENCE THERE. UM, THEY'RE VERY DIFFICULT TO SURVEY, AND GENERALLY SURVEYS ARE NOT CARRIED OUT. UM, YOU DEFINITELY DON'T WANNA DO ANY KIND OF TRAPPING ANY LONGER. AND THE BIOLOGIST FOR PG AND E KNOW THIS. SO, UM, I APPRECIATE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO SUBMIT A COMMENT. I, WHICH I DON'T THINK THE LAST ONE MADE IT INTO THE CITY'S AGENDA BECAUSE WE SUBMITTED A COMMENT AND THEN A SUPPLEMENT TO THE COMMENT, AND THEN WE SUBMITTED A SUPPLEMENT TO, WHICH IS WHAT DR. POKAY WAS REFERRING TO. SO THANK YOU AGAIN, COUNCIL MEMBER POKAY FOR RAISING THAT ISSUE. AND, UM, WE WERE NOT ASKING FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW TO BE REOPENED, BUT WE REVIEWED WHAT WAS AVAILABLE AND WE RAISED CONCERNS AND QUESTIONS BECAUSE THESE ARE VERY, VERY SPECIAL PROTECTED SPECIES THAT NEED THE KIND OF LEVEL OF MITIGATION FOR A PROJECT LIKE THIS. AND THEN LASTLY, I WOULD JUST SAY I RAISED A QUESTION ABOUT THE CITY OF PETALUMA PROVIDING AND PG AND E SUPPORTING THAT, PROVIDING SOME KIND OF, UM, ALTERNATIVE FOR ALL OF THE VISITORS WHO ARE GOING TO LEARN ABOUT THE PARK BEING CLOSED DURING THE WEEKDAYS. UH, WHERE WILL THESE PEOPLE GO? THEY SHOULDN'T ALL BE SHOVED OVER TO ALMOND MARSH OR ELLIS CREEK. THAT'S JUST TOO MANY PEOPLE IN THOSE TWO LOCATIONS. UM, SO I THINK THAT PROBABLY CONCLUDES MY COMMENTS, EXCEPT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED, AND THAT IS THE LAST SPEAKER, MR. MAYOR, SO BACK TO YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT CONCLUDES, UM, PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE ITEM FOR THE NIGHT. AND, UM, I'D LIKE TO NOTE THAT, UH, OUR VICE MAYOR IS UP ON HER, UM, BIOLOGICAL BIOLOGY, UH, IMPACTS, UH, SHE LEANED OVER DURING COUNCILMAN OSA CASE, UH, COMMENT OR, UH, COUNCILMAN TRIP'S COMMENT AND SAID, EVERYWHERE THERE'S PICKLEWEED, OF COURSE YOU HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT. AND SO MAKE THAT ASSUMPTION. SO THAT WAS GOOD INSIGHT. THANK YOU. AND YOU HAD A COMMENT. WELL, MY COMMENT IS WORKING ON BUILDING THE ELLIS CREEK RECYCLING FACILITY. THE PICKLEWEED WAS, AND SALT HARVEST MOUSE AND THE CLAPPER RAIL. ALL OF THIS WAS DISCUSSED, YOU KNOW, AND HOW IT WAS GONNA BE IMPACTED AND WHERE IT WAS. I'M KIND OF SURPRISED TO HEAR THE CLAPPER RAIL IS, WHICH IS A DIFFERENT NAME NOW IS IN SCHOENBERGER, BUT IT IS DEFINITELY AT ELLIS CREEK. I'VE SEEN HIM BEFORE. AND SO, AND THEN THERE'S THIS ONE TRAIL THAT'S COMPLETELY CLOSED BECAUSE WE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, STAY AWAY FROM THE NESTING WITH THE CLAPPER RAIL, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IT HAS JUST MOVED LIKE ANY BIRD WOULD. AND SO JUST WANNA REITERATE THAT A LOT OF THIS BIOLOGY WAS DONE. DID YOU WISH TO MAKE A MOTION WITH ELLIS CREEK? AND I WILL MAKE THAT MOTION. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER HEALEY NUMBER 13. SO I'LL, I'LL SECOND THAT. AND I, I WANTED TO, UM, RAISE, UH, AN ISSUE THAT'S KIND OF COLORING OUTSIDE THE LINES A BIT, SINCE THIS IS A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN, IN ESSENTIALLY FOUND MONEY. AND WE'RE THE, THE PRIMARY IMPACT IS ON ONE OF OUR MOST BELOVED CITY PARKS. I'M WONDERING IF THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO DIRECT THAT THIS A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS BE DIRECTED TO, UH, PARK IMPROVEMENTS AND ASK THE PARK AND REC COMMISSION FOR RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW TO PROGRAM IT FOR MORE, MORE PROJECTS GOING FORWARD. SO IF THERE'S, UM, UH, INTEREST IN THAT, I WOULD MAKE THAT AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. AND WOULD THE STAFF LIKE TO WEIGH IN ON THAT? WE GO WITH THAT. I WANTED TO WEIGH IN, WEIGH IN ON A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS, AND WE CAN, I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN IMPLEMENT. [02:25:01] I THINK ULTIMATELY IT'S THE BUDGET THAT REALLY IMPLEMENTS THAT, BUT THE COUNCIL CAN CERTAINLY GIVE THAT DIRECTION. UM, I WANT TO NOTE THAT WE NEED TO, UM, IF, IF IT'S, IF THE COUNCIL'S WILLING, UM, I FAILED TO UPDATE IN THE OTHER UPDATES I DID. I FAILED TO UPDATE THE, UH, UM, DATE REFERENCE AND THE RESOLUTION, UM, FROM THE SEPTEMBER 11TH MEETING TO THIS ONE, WHICH IS SEPTEMBER 18TH. SO WE SHOULD MAKE THAT CORRECTION. UM, AND ALSO, I BELIEVE COUNCIL MEMBER HEALY RAISED IN REFERENCE TO THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT THE COUNCIL'S ACTION IS, UH, CONDITIONED ON THAT, THAT THAT OFFER STILL BE IN EFFECT. UM, SO THAT WE SHOULD HAVE THE RECORD REFLECT THAT TOO, WITH RESPECT TO THE COUNCIL'S ACTION. THANK YOU. SO THOSE ARE TWO FRIENDLY AMENDMENTS THAT, UH, ARE COMING IN. S SO IF THE MAKER OF THE MOTION IS, IS OKAY WITH MR. DALEY'S RECOMMENDATIONS, I WOULD SUPPORT THOSE. AND THEN WE NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE OTHER AND BACK TO YOU COUNCIL, AS FAR AS THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND, I, I WOULD RATHER HAVE A DISCUSSION ON WHERE THE MONEY WOULD GO, BECAUSE WHEN THE TRAIL WAS BUILT FROM SCHOENBERGER PARK OVER TO ELLIS CREEK, IT WASN'T DONE CORRECTLY AND IT FLOODS EVERY SINGLE YEAR. AND IF WE REALLY WANNA HAVE THIS CONTIGUOUS, UM, CONNECTION WITH TRAILS, 'CAUSE IT ADDED ABOUT EIGHT MILES OF TRAILS, UM, BY DOING THESE, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN ALMAR SCHOENBERGER AND THEN THE ELLIS CREEK. AND I WOULD, YOU KNOW, PERSONALLY LIKE TO SEE A DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT 300, YOU KNOW, 65 DAYS OUT A YEAR THAT WE CAN USE THAT PARTICULAR TRAIL AND THAT IT'S NOT FLOODED. SO JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT, THE, UM, THE ALMAN MARSH TRAIL HAS, UM, A MAJOR PROBLEM AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SCIENCE CLOSING IT FOR PUBLIC USE, ALTHOUGH EVERYONE IGNORES THAT, BUT THAT'S MUCH MORE THAN A $100,000 FIX. UM, IT'S THAT, UH, THAT, UH, WOODEN TRAIL THAT IS AT, AT A BAD TILT. UM, SO ANYWAY, THAT, THAT WOULD STILL BE MY RECOMME RECOMMENDATION THAT WE ASK PARK AND REC FOR THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW TO SPEND IT. I'M HEARING FROM OUR, UM, PARKS AND REC DIRECTOR THAT, UH, TRAIL IMPROVEMENTS ARE INDEED IN NEED OF THAT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. SO THAT'D BE WONDERFUL. SO THE AMENDMENT IS FOR USE OF THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND ON TRAILS AT, AT SCHOENBERGER SURE. OR ELLIS CREEK. ACTUALLY, I'M HEARING ALMAN MARSH BOARD. UM, THE ALMAN MARSH BOARDWALK WOULD BE A GREAT, AND SOME OF ALL THE MARSH BOARDWALK, I THINK WOULD BE STATE MONIES, ALSO MORE SO THAN THE ONE IN BETWEEN SCHOENBERGER WE'RE REALLY GOOD AT, UH, LEVERAGING MONEY. SO WE'LL FIGURE THAT OUT. YEAH. OKAY. AND I'LL ADD, I'LL BE ON IT. STAFF REALLY WERE, UM, PARK STAFF REALLY WERE LOOKING AT THAT ISSUE ALREADY. AND NOT THAT THAT'S NOT GREAT DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL, BUT SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT STAFF STAFF ARE FOCUSED ON SIMILAR THINGS. AND I AGREE TO THOSE AND I'LL ADD THOSE ONTO THE MOTION. AND WE, UH, DIZZY DARK CLERK, OR ARE WE STAYING? YOU STAYING WITH US. OKAY, GOOD. ALL RIGHT, . AND ANY, UH, LAST COMMENTS? YES, COUNCIL MEMBER SCH SHRIMPS, UM, BEING THAT I AM, UH, STILL WORKING WITH, UH, PETMAN WETLANDS ALLIANCE, AND I WAS OUT THERE THIS MORNING AT ELLIS CREEK AND ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT THE CHANGE IN OUR EDUCATION PROGRAM. SO THERE'S, THERE IS A LOT OF WORK THAT IS BEING DONE. 'CAUSE WE HAVE TO MODIFY IT ENTIRELY TOP TO BOTTOM, UH, MOVING IT OUT THERE THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE SEVERAL CLASSROOMS OUT THERE COMING UP VERY SOON. SO THAT IS WORK IS BEING DONE. UM, BUT IT IS A LOT OF WORK, UH, JUST SO THAT WE RECOGNIZE THAT. AND ALSO OUR BIRD SURVEYS. THE, THIS MACHINERY THAT'S GOING IN WHERE IT'S GOING IN IS EXACTLY THE SPOT WHERE WE DO OUR MONTHLY SURVEYS, UH, EVERY OTHER MONTH. BUT WE'LL FIGURE OUT A WAY OF ACCOMMODATING THAT. WE'LL MOVE SURVEY DATES, WHATEVER WE HAVE TO DO, BUT THAT WILL BE ACCOMMODATED. SO I KNOW SINCE P W A WAS MENTIONED SEVERAL TIMES, UM, THAT WE ARE BEING IMPACTED OR THAT MY, THAT GROUP IS BEING IMPACTED. UM, YES, IT'S, IT IS GETTING ACCOMMODATED, BUT IT IS TAKING WORK TO DO. SO COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLE. YEAH, I'LL BE SUPPORTING, UH, THE MOTION. UM, I'LL JUST SAY THAT PAINS MAY TO BE SPENDING MORE MONEY ON FOSSIL FUEL INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, BUT GAS LEAKS AND GAS EXPLODES AND WE, UM, NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PROTECTING OUR COMMUNITY FROM THAT UNTIL WE CAN COMMISSION IT. AND I'D LOVE TO SEE A PRESENTATION FROM PG E AT SOME POINT, UM, LOOKING AT THE OPPORTUNITIES TO DECOMMISSION GAS SYSTEMS, UH, IN PETALUMA. AND, UH, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. BARNICLE. AYE. CATER THOMPSON? YES. HEALY? YES. NOW YES. POST. OKAY. YES. SHRIVES? YES. AND MCDONALD? YES. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. OUR NEXT ITEM FOR THE EVENING. ITEM 14 RESOLUTION, ADOPTING AN INITIAL STUDY MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION AND MITIGATED MONITORING AND REPORTING PROGRAM FOR THE OYSTER COVE MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECT RESOLUTION APPROVING A GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT INTRODUCTION OF AN ORDINANCE FIRST READING, ADOPTING A ZONING MAP, AMENDMENT AND [02:30:01] RESOLUTION, APPROVING THE TENTATIVE MAP FOR SUBDIVISION AND CONDOMINIUM PURPOSES AND ASSOCIATED SMART CODE WARRANTS. AND TONIGHT, HELPING US THROUGH WITH THIS ONE WILL BE BRIAN O OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR. WELCOME, BRIAN. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, I'M JOINED HERE BY, UH, THE, THE FULL TEAM HERE. THIS HAS ABSOLUTELY BEEN A TEAM EFFORT. UH, YOU KNOW, ABSOLUTELY PREDATES MY TIME, UH, YOU KNOW, HERE AT THE HELM OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE SOME OPENING REMARKS AS OUR PROJECT TEAM, UM, PREPARES A PRESENTATION. UM, AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO A ROBUST DISCUSSION HERE, UH, WITH BOTH, UH, THE COUNCIL AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY. UM, AS WE, UH, THIS IS, AS WE MENTIONED AT THE EARLIER, UM, ITEM, UM, WE'RE RUNNING INTO THE TWILIGHT OF OUR EXISTING GENERAL PLAN, UM, AS WE START TO EMBARK, UM, AND CONTINUE TO, UH, LOOK AND PROJECT FORWARD WITH THE GENERAL PLAN THAT'S, UM, SOMETHING THAT WE CAN BE PROUD OF, UM, FOR THE NEXT COUPLE GENERATIONS. UH, AND SO THIS PROJECT, UM, AS PROPOSED, UM, AND PRESENTED, UM, IS ONE OF THOSE RARE INSTANCES WHERE YOU, UM, MEET THE MARK ON BOTH THE EXISTING GENERAL PLAN POLICIES, UM, AS WELL AS A NUMBER OF THE GENERAL PLAN PRINCIPLES AND VISIONS, UM, THAT WE, UM, HAVE SET FOR, HAVE SET FORTH, UM, IN OUR UPCOMING UPDATE. UM, IT ALSO HAS GONE THROUGH, UM, QUITE A BIT OF OUTREACH SINCE ITS ONSET. UM, NOT JUST WITH, UM, THE COMMUNITY, NOT JUST WITH, UM, OUR, UH, SORT OF TYPICAL PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, UH, OUTLETS. UM, IT'S WORKED, UH, CLOSELY, UH, WITH ITS, UH, NEIGHBORING, UM, PROPERTY OWNERS, UM, AS WELL AS, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST A NOTE OF GRATITUDE TO THE, UM, THE FRIENDS OF THE, UH, PETALUMA RIVER, AS WELL AS, UH, THE RIVER PARK FOUNDATION, UM, AS WELL FOR BEING, UM, CONNECTED AND, AND STAYING ENGAGED ON THIS PROJECT. UM, AND SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA GET WITH THIS PROJECT, UM, IN ADDITION TO, UM, WHAT YOU'LL HEAR TODAY, UM, IS A NUMBER OF PUBLIC BENEFITS. UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT, UH, HAS A NICE WAY OF TYING THE LARGER CITY AND LARGER DOWNTOWN AREA, UM, WITH ITS CROWN JEWEL, WHICH IS THE PETALUMA RIVER. AND SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO, UH, DIVE INTO THOSE DETAILS WITH YOU THIS EVENING. AND SO WITH THAT, I'LL START INTRODUCING, UH, PLANNING MANAGER ANDREW TRIPLE, UM, AS WELL AS OLIVIA IRVIN, OUR, UH, PRINCIPAL ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNER. UM, AND SO WITH THAT, I WILL TURN MY ATTENTION TO MR. TRIPLE. GREAT. THANK YOU, MR. O. AND, UH, GOOD EVENING MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. UM, IT WILL BE JUST A MOMENT AS I, UH, COMPLETE MY ZOOM SETUP. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. SO THIS EVENING'S, UH, STAFF PRESENTATION, WHICH WILL BE FOLLOWED BY AN APPLICANT PRESENTATION IS FOR THE OYSTER COVE MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECT. IT DOES INCLUDE THE INITIAL STUDY, MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION, A GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT, ZONING MAP AMENDMENT, AND A TENTATIVE MAP FOR CONDOMINIUM PURPOSES AND ASSOCIATED SMART CODE WARRANTS. SO THE AGENDA FOR THIS PRESENTATION, WE'LL, UH, TALK A BIT ABOUT CONTEXT, MOVE ON TO A SUMMARY OF PROJECT INFORMATION, UH, SUMMARIZE C Q A FOR THE, UH, COUNCIL, UH, REVIEW THE FINDINGS FOR GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT, AS WELL AS THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT, UH, THEN FOLLOWED BY THE TENTATIVE SUBDIVISION MAP AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION. SO IN TERMS OF CONTEXT, THERE'S A VARIETY OF, UH, PRINCIPLES AND CONCEPTS THAT, UH, GUIDED DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROJECT'S DESIGN FOR THE PHASE ONE ENTITLEMENTS THAT WILL BE FAMILIAR. THEY INCLUDE, UH, SMART GROWTH PRINCIPLES, TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT, [02:35:01] 15 MINUTE NEIGHBORHOODS, WHICH IS A CURRENT DISCUSSION THAT WE'RE HAVING, UM, AS PART OF THE GENERAL PLAN UPDATE. THEN OF COURSE, THE GENERAL PLAN UPDATE ITSELF AND THE, UH, SIX CYCLE HOUSING ELEMENT, UH, THE OYSTER COVE MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECT IS IDENTIFIED AND LISTED AS A PIPELINE PROJECT IN THE, UH, SIX CYCLE HOUSING ELEMENT IN TERMS OF PLANS AND REGULATORY DOCUMENTS. STAFF REVIEWED FOR CONSISTENCY WITH THE GENERAL PLAN, THE BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN PLAN, RIVER ACCESS AND ENHANCEMENT PLAN, CENTRAL PETALUMA SPECIFIC PLAN, THE SMART T O D MASTER PLAN. AND THEN FOR COMPLIANCE WITH THE SMART CODE, UM, THE, UH, IMPLEMENTING ZONING ORDINANCE AND, UM, PETALUMA MUNICIPAL CODE TITLE 20, WHICH IS OUR SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE. THE PHASE ONE ENTITLEMENTS, AS WE, UH, PREVIOUSLY INDICATED INCLUDE THE M AND D AND, AND, UH, M M R P MITIGATION MONITORING AND REPORTING PROGRAM, A GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT, UH, TO, UH, CHANGE THE LAND USE DESIGNATION TO MIXED USE FOR A 1.86, UH, ACRE PORTION OF THE PROJECT SITE, AS WELL AS A ZONING MAP AMENDMENT, UH, TO REZONE TO URBAN CENTER T FIVE, WHICH IS REQUIRED FOR IMPLEMENTING THE PROPOSED GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT. AND THEN A TENTATIVE MAP FOR SUBDIVISION AND CONDOMINIUM PURPOSES OVER THE ENTIRETY OF THE 6.13 ACRE PROJECT, AS WELL AS ASSOCIATED SMART CODE WARRANTS, WHICH INCLUDE, UH, REMOVING THE REQUIRED, UH, HOPPER LOOP ROAD MODIFYING THE MINIMUM GROUND FLOOR CEILING HEIGHT REQUIREMENT IF NEEDED, A MODIFICATION TO ALLOW COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY WITHIN THE 30 FOOT GROUND FLOOR SPACE DEPTH IF NEEDED, A REDUCTION IN MINIMUM LOT SIZE, WIDTH AND DEPTH IF NEEDED. A REDUCTION IN THE MINIMUM REQUIRED MAIN BODY WIDTH IF NEEDED, ELIMINATION OF THE REQUIRED PRIVATE OPEN SPACE AND MODIFICATION OF THE PARKING LOCATION REQUIREMENT. PHASE TWO AND FIVE ENTITLEMENTS, WHICH WOULD BE A FUTURE PHASE, UM, WOULD BE THE SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW TO BE CONDUCTED BY THE PLAN AND COMMISSION. THAT WOULD INCLUDE APPROVAL OF THE SITE PLAN, UM, REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN, AS WELL AS PROPOSED MATERIALS AND COLORS, PRELIMINARY LANDSCAPE PLAN APPROVAL, UH, PROPOSED SIGNAGE WAY FINDING, AND OTHER ASPECTS OF SITE DESIGN, UH, AS NECESSARY AND APPROPRIATE PROJECT MILESTONES. AFTER THE PROJECT WAS SUBMITTED ON MARCH 31ST, 2022, A VARIETY OF REVIEWS WERE HELD. UH, THE PROJECT WAS DEEMED COMPLETE IN NOVEMBER OF 2022. THE M N D WAS PUBLISHED IN APRIL OF 23. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING WAS A PUBLIC HEARING TO MAKE RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL WAS HELD ON MAY 9TH OF THIS YEAR. AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, PLANNING COMMISSION HELD A PUBLIC HEARING ON MAY 23RD, UH, TO, TO APPROVE A GENERAL PLAN CONFORMANCE DETERMINATION FOR A LAND EXCHANGE, WHICH WE'LL BE DISCUSSING. SO THE PROJECT SITE, AS I MENTIONED, IS COMPRISED OF THREE PARCELS, TOTALING APPROXIMATELY 6.13 ACRES. THOSE, UH, PARCELS ARE LOCATED, UH, SURROUNDING THE MCNAIR CHANNEL, AND, UM, ADJACENT TO THE PETALUMA RIVER FRONTING D STREET AS WELL AS COPELAND STREET. THE GENERAL PLAN CURRENTLY DESIGNATES, UH, 4.27 ACRES OF THE SITE AS MIXED USE WITH THAT 1.86 ACRE PORTION AS A RIVER DEPENDENT INDUSTRIAL. AND THEN THE CURRENT ZONING ALSO IS, UH, IMPLEMENTING THE GENERAL PLAN LAND USE DESIGNATIONS. AS WE CAN SEE HERE, HERE, THE PROJECT SITE IS, UH, IS A VERY RICH ENVIRONMENT, INCLUDING PROXIMITY TO DOWNTOWN PETALUMA, THE SMART STATION. UH, IT'S AN EMPLOYMENT RICH SITE, AS WELL AS PROVIDING COMMERCIAL RETAIL GOODS AND SERVICES, RESTAURANTS, UH, CINEMAS MUSEUM, AS WELL AS A VARIETY OF OUTDOOR AMENITIES, INCLUDING THE RIVER TRAIL STEAMER LANDING PARK, THE FUTURE PETALUMA RIVER PARK. AND THEN IS, UH, WELL SUPPORTED BY, UM, THE SCHOOLS WITHIN THE AREA. SO THE GENERAL PLAN LAND USE, UM, AS WE CAN SEE HERE, THIS IS THE APPROXIMATE 1.86 ACRES SITE. I'M NOT SURE WHAT HAPPENED. SORRY. OKAY, , I THOUGHT THAT WAS ME, PERHAPS. SO THIS IS THE, UH, 1.86 ACRE SITE THAT WOULD BE BOTH THAT FOR WHICH A GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT IS PROPOSED, AS WELL AS THEN THE, UM, THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT TO, UH, IMPLEMENT THE GENERAL, THE PROPOSED GENERAL [02:40:01] PLAN AMENDMENT, THE REMAINDER OF THE SITE, UH, THE LAND USE DESIGNATION IS MIXED USE AND, UH, AS WELL AS BEING ZONED URBAN CENTER T FIVE. IN TERMS OF, UH, PROJECT SPECIFIC DATA, THIS WOULD BE A 132 UNIT, PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. IT CONSISTS OF 121 ATTACHED TOWN HOMES, 20 OF WHICH WOULD BE RESERVED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND COMPLIANCE WITH OUR INCLUSIONARY HOUSING ORDINANCE. THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS OF THE UNITS WOULD RANGE FROM 1300 TO APPROXIMATELY 1900 SQUARE FEET. THEY WOULD BE TWO TO THREE BEDROOMS AND HAVE ONE TO TWO CAR GARAGES. 11 OF THE UNITS FRONTING EAST D STREET WOULD BE LIVE WORK UNITS OF APPROXIMATELY 2100 SQUARE FEET, AND THEY WOULD PROVIDE, UM, APPROXIMATELY 9,000 SQUARE FEET OF WORKSPACE WITHIN, UH, THE ENTIRETY OF THE PROJECT. THEN THE OYSTER SHOW OYSTER SHED, WHICH IS AN EXISTING STRUCTURE WE CAN SEE HERE IN THE FOREGROUND OF THIS, UH, ILLUSTRATIVE RENDERING. UH, WOULD THE, UH, PROPOSAL IS TO, UH, ENGAGE IN AN ADAPTIVE REUSE? THE, THE, I THINK THE DETERMINATION OF THE PROGRAM ITSELF WOULD BE TO BE DETERMINED, BUT, UM, AT THE TIME OF THE PROJECT'S, UH, DEVELOPMENT, AT THIS POINT IN TIME FOR PHASE ONE ENTITLEMENTS, IT WAS ENVISIONED TO CONTAIN APPROXIMATELY A 6,000 SQUARE FOOT BOATHOUSE, APPROXIMATELY 1500 SQUARE FEET OF PUBLIC SPACE, AND THEN 1500 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL SPACE. SO THE TENTATIVE SUBDIVISION MAP, WHICH IS, UH, PART OF THE PHASE ONE ENTITLEMENTS, UH, DESCRIBES 22 LOTS AS WELL AS THE ALLEYWAYS, UH, THAT WOULD PROVIDE ACCESS TO, UM, THE LOTS INTO THE ENTIRETY OF THE DEVELOPMENT. HERE IN THE ILLUSTRATIVE SITE PLAN, WE SEE THE, UH, BLOCKING OF THE, UH, 132 UNITS AS WELL AS THE ALLEYWAYS PROVIDING ACCESS, UH, FROM COPELAND STREET TO BOTH, UH, THE PROJECT ON BOTH SIDES OF THE MCNAIR CANAL. UM, UP HERE IN THE UPPER RIGHT HAND IMAGE, WE SEE THE PEDESTRIAN AND BIKE NETWORK, WHICH IT DOES INCLUDE THE RIVER TRAIL IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE REQUIRED TO THE RIVER TRAIL, AS WELL AS THE CREATION OF A, A PUBLIC PROMENADE ALONG THE PETALUMA RIVER. AND THEN, UM, PEDESTRIAN AND BIKE ACCESS TO ALL OF THAT FROM EAST, EAST STREET AS WELL AS COPELAND STREET. THEN IN THE LOWER RIGHT WE SEE THE, UH, VEHICULAR NETWORK, WHICH IS DESCRIBED IN BLUE WITH PRIMARY ACCESS BEING FROM COPELAND STREET, AND THEN, UM, MEANDERING THROUGH THE PROJECT ITSELF. SO THE PROJECT DOES OFFER A VARIETY OF PUBLIC BENEFITS, AS MR. O INDICATED, UH, INCLUDING THE MULTI-USE PROMENADE ALONG THE PETALUMA RIVER, UH, THE MULTI-USE PATH, UM, ON EAST D STREET WITH A DEDICATED BIKE LANE, 20 NEW AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS, A NEW SIGNALED INTERSECTION AT EAST D STREET AND COPELAND STREET, WHICH WOULD SUPPORT, UH, PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE MOVEMENTS IN A SAFE MANNER. NEW ONSITE PARKING, WHICH WOULD BE DEVELOPED TO SUPPORT STEAMER LANDING AND HERITAGE CENTER, ADAPTIVE REUSE OF THE OYSTER SHED, UH, AS A PUBLIC AMENITY IN PART, THEN AGAIN, IMPROVEMENTS TO THE RIVER TRAIL, IMPROVED ACCESS TO STEAMER LANDING AND THE FUTURE PETALUMA RIVER PARK, AS WELL AS AT THE TIME OF DEVELOPMENT OF THE STAFF, REPORT APPROXIMATELY 2.7 MILLION IN, UH, DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEES, UM, IN ADDITION TO THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WOULD BE DEVELOPED BY THE PROJECT. SO, UH, MY COLLEAGUE, UM, PRINCIPAL PLANNER OLIVIA IRVIN, CONDUCTED THE, UH, MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION C Q A REVIEW, AND, UH, PRODUCED THE M M R P, UM, THAT WAS DISTRIBUTED FOR 30 DAY PUBLIC COMMENT, BEGINNING IN APRIL 7TH, WHICH CLOSED ON APRIL 8TH. THE DAY PRIOR TO THE, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT PO POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT RESULTS OR SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS RELATED TO AIR QUALITY, BIOLOGICAL RESOURCES, CULTURAL RESOURCES, UH, AND SO FORTH, UH, MAY BE POSSIBLE. HOWEVER, ALL OF THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS, UH, COULD BE MITIGATED TO A LESS THAN SIGNIFICANT LEVEL, UM, THROUGH, UH, RECOMMENDED MITIGATION MEASURES, AS WELL AS COMPLIANCE WITH EXISTING MUNICIPAL CODE REQUIREMENTS AND CITY STANDARDS. AND MS. IRVIN IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. YOU ARE ALSO BEING PRESENTED THIS EVENING WITH THE RESOLUTION, UH, TO APPROVE THE M N D AND THE ASSOCIATED M M R P. UM, ADDITIONALLY, THE, THE, UH, M N D AND M M R P WERE PEER REVIEWED, PEER REVIEWED, EXCUSE ME, BY, UH, JARVIS FAY LAW FIRM IN AUGUST OF 2023. SO THE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT, UH, PROPOSES TO AMEND A 1.86 ACRE PORTION OF THE SITE, WHICH IS, UH, CURRENTLY DESIGNATED RIVER DEPENDENT INDUSTRIAL. AND, UH, THE, THE, UM, FINDINGS THAT THE GENERAL PLAN GOALS AND POLICIES WOULD BE SUPPORTED BY THIS [02:45:01] PROPOSED AMENDMENT, INCLUDING, UH, THAT THE GENERAL PLAN SEEKS TO MAINTAIN A BALANCED LAND USE PROGRAM TO MEET THE LONG-TERM RESIDENTIAL, AS WELL AS COMMERCIAL, UM, AND RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE NEEDS OF THE CITY. UH, POLICY ONE DASH P DASH ONE PROMOTES A, A RANGE OF LAND USES AT DENSITIES AND INTENSITIES TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY NEEDS. UH, POLICY ONE DASH P DASH SIX ENCOURAGES MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. THIS PROJECT IS A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT PROJECT. AND THEN AGAIN, THE PROJECT SITE IS IDENTIFIED IN THE, UH, ADOPTED AND CERTIFIED 20 23 20 31 HOUSING ELEMENT. THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT WOULD, UH, REZONE THAT SAME 1.86 ACRE PORTION OF THE PROJECT SITE TO URBAN CENTER T FIVE, WHICH IS AN IMPLEMENTING ZONING DISTRICT OF THE, UH, GENERAL PLAN MIXED USE LAND USE DESIGNATION. THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT IS IN GEN IN GENERAL, CONFORMITY WITH THE GENERAL PLAN AND ANY APPLICABLE PLANS. AND AGAIN, IT WOULD IMPLEMENT THE UNDERLYING, UH, MIXED USE GENERAL PLAN LAND USE SHOULD THAT, UH, PROPOSED AMENDMENT BE APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL THIS EVENING. THE, UH, PUBLIC NECESSITY CONVENIENCE IN GEN GENERAL, WE WELFARE CLEARLY PERMIT THE ADOPTION OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT IN THAT IT WOULD SUPPORT DEVELOPMENT OF NEW HOUSING, INCLUDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND PROVIDE A VARIETY OF PUBLIC BENEFITS. ADDITIONALLY, THE AMENDMENT WOULD RESULT IN A SINGLE ZONE FOR THE ENTIRE PARCEL OF LAND AND WOULD ALLOW FOR ONE SET OF RULES TO BE APPLIED TO THE ENTIRETY OF THE SITE. AND SO THEN THE, UH, TENTATIVE SUBDIVISION MAPS SHOWN HERE, AGAIN, REFLECTING THE 22 LOTS THAT ARE, UH, INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSED PROJECT POLICY ALIGNMENT AND FINDINGS. UH, THE PO THE PROPOSED TENTATIVE SUBDIVISION MAP IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN AND THE, UH, BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN PLAN. IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE PETALUMA RIVER ACCESS AND ENHANCEMENT PLAN, AS WELL AS THE CENTRAL PETALUMA SPECIFIC PLAN WITH REGARD TO LAND USE, COMMUNITY DESIGN, PUBLIC SPACE, AND RIVER ACCESS AND CIRCULATION. IT'S ALSO BEEN REVIEWED AND FOUND TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE T O D MASTER PLAN, AND IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SMART CODE AS AMENDED IN 2013 AND TITLE 20 OF THE PETALUMA MUNICIPAL CODE. AND SO THE WARRANTS THAT ARE REQUESTED, THE WARRANT, UM, IS, IS A PROCESS THAT'S, UM, UM, INCORPORATED INTO THE SMART CODE, AND IT'S INTENDED TO PROVIDE FLEXIBILITY TO HELP PROJECTS ACHIEVE THE INTENT OF THE SMART CODE. AND SO, UH, APPLICANTS CAN REQUEST WARRANTS, UM, TO, TO, UH, ENHANCE FLEXIBILITY AS THEY SEEK TO MEET THE INTENT OF THE SMART CODE, UH, WHICH IS TO ENSURE THAT, UH, DENSE, WALKABLE, UH, WELL DESIGNED PROJECTS, UM, ESPECIALLY IN INFILL PROJECTS ADJACENT TO OUR DOWNTOWN AREA, UM, ARE ACHIEVABLE. AND SO THE, UH, THE REQUEST FOR, UH, REMOVAL OF THE HOPPER LOOP ROAD REQUIREMENT, UH, IS RELATED TO THE HOPPER LOOP ROAD, WHICH IS CURRENTLY PROPOSED IN THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN OF THE CENTRAL PETALUMA SPECIFIC PLAN. AND THAT ACTUALLY RUNS ON TOP OF THE RIVER TRAIL, UH, TO THE NORTH OF THE MCNAIR CANAL. SO REMOVAL OF THAT HOPPER LOOP ROAD REQUIREMENT WOULD RESULT IN, UH, MAXIMIZING THE UTILITY AND USABILITY OF THE WATERFRONT FOR BOTH PEDESTRIAN AND CYCLISTS, AS WELL AS REDUCING OVERALL IMPERVIOUS SURFACE ADJACENT TO THE PETALUMA RIVER. ESSENTIALLY, WE WOULD GO FROM A MINIMUM ROAD WIDTH OF ABOUT 32 FEET DOWN TO A MULTI-USE PATH OF ABOUT 10 FEET OF PAVED SURFACE, A MODIFICATION OF THE MINIMUM GROUND FLOOR CEILING HEIGHT. THIS WOULD HELP, UH, IN DESIGNING THE PROJECT UNITS, ESPECIALLY THE, UM, THE, UH, LIVE WORK UNITS ADJACENT TO EAST D STREET, AND THEN THE MODIFICATION TO ALLOW COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY WITHIN THE MINIMUM 30 FOOT GROUND FLOOR SPACE DEPTH, UH, IF REQUIRED, A REDUCTION IN THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE WIDTH FROM 18 FEET TO 16 FEET, AND DEPTH FROM 80 FEET TO 36 FEET, AND A MODIFICATION OF THE MINIMUM MAIN BODY WIDTH OF, UM, OF UNITS FROM 18 TO 36 FEET TO 16 TO 34 FEET, AGAIN IF REQUIRED. AND THEN FINALLY, ELIMINATION OF THE PRIVATE, UH, OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT FOR TOWNHOUSE BUILDING TYPES. UH, THIS WOULD HELP TO MAINTAIN APPROPRIATE PROJECT DENSITY AND MIX OF USES, AND IT ALSO ACCOUNTS FOR THE LARGE PUBLIC PARK SPACES ADJACENT, UH, TO THE SITE, AS WELL AS IN GENERAL, THE SITE'S, UH, PROXIMITY TO OTHER RECREATIONAL AND OPEN SPACE OPPORTUNITIES IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. AND THEN FINALLY, A MODIFICATION TO THE PARKING LOCATION. THIS WOULD A, ALLOW, UM, TANDEM PARKING IN GARAGES, UM, WITHIN [02:50:01] CERTAIN UNITS IN THE PROJECT OF NOTE. AND THIS RELATES TO THE, UH, GENERAL PLAN CONFORMANCE DETERMINATION THAT WAS APPROVED BY PLANNING COMMISSION ON MAY 23RD, UH, THE PROJECT IN ORDER TO IMPLEMENT THE REQUIRED EMERGENCY VEHICLE ACCESS EASEMENT FROM HOPPER STREET, WHICH IS A REQUIRED SECONDARY POINT OF EMERGENCY VEHICLE ACCESS, ESTABLISHED BY THE FIRE, FIRE MARSHAL AND FIRE CHIEF, UH, NECESSITATES A LAND EXCHANGE BETWEEN LANDS ZONE BY VULCAN LAND OR BY VULCAN SHAMROCK, WHICH IS CURRENTLY LOCATED HERE, WHERE THE RIVER TRAIL PASSES OVER. UM, VULCAN OWNED PROPERTY ON ITS WAY TO HOPPER STREET IN EXCHANGE FOR, UH, A SMALLER PORTION LESS THAN HALF THIS SIZE, UH, THAT IS CURRENTLY OWNED BY THE CITY, BUT IS, IS, UH, OPERATIONALIZED FOR USE BY VULCAN, UM, ADJACENT TO MCNAIR CANAL. UH, THE LAND EXCHANGE, UM, IS BEING WORKED ON BY THE CITY IN VULCAN AND WOULD COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. UM, BUT THAT LAND EXCHANGE WOULD BE REQUIRED IN ORDER FOR THE CITY TO OBTAIN CONTROL OF THE LAND UNDERLYING THE EXISTING, UH, RIVER TRAIL FOR WHICH THERE IS NO PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT. IT WOULD ENSURE THAT THE RIVER TRAIL DOES, UM, HAVE, UH, FULL ACCESS TO HOPPER STREET, AS WELL AS PROVIDE FOR THE EMERGENCY VEHICLE ACCESS, WHICH, UH, THE OYSTER COVE PROJECT WOULD DEVELOP. AND THEN FINALLY, THERE'S AN EXISTING PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT THAT RUNS FROM EAST D STREET, UH, BIFURCATES THE PROPERTY ON ITS WAY TO STEAMER LANDING, AND THEN ONTO THE FUTURE. PETALUMA RIVER PARK. UH, THIS EASEMENT HAS BEEN IN PLACE SINCE THE 1940S AND IS APPROXIMATELY 32 FEET WIDE, AS YOU CAN SEE, GIVEN ITS, UH, CURRENT LOCATION, IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT TO DEVELOP THIS PROJECT FOR ANY USE, UH, SHOULD THAT PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT BE IMPLEMENTED IN ORDER TO RETAIN THE ACCESSIBILITY GR UH, PROVIDED BY THE EASEMENT. THE PROJECT DOES, AP DOES PROPOSE TO OVERLAY THE INTERNAL ALLEYWAY NETWORK WITH A PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT IN FAVOR OF THE CITY, WHICH WOULD PROVIDE FOR FULL ACCESS THROUGH THE PROJECT ON THE WAY TO STEAMER LANDING PARK, UM, AND THEN THE FUTURE OF PETALUMA RIVER PARK, AS WELL AS IT WOULD CONTINUE TO RETAIN THE EXISTING ACCESS PROVIDED BY THE RIVER TRAIL, UH, RUNNING ADJACENT TO THE MCNAIR CANAL. AND THEN THE PROJECT WOULD DEVELOP AN ADDITIONAL, UH, PROMENADE ALONG THE PETALUMA RIVER THAT COULD BE OF USE FOR BOTH PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLISTS. UH, THIS, THIS, UH, PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT HAS BEEN REVIEWED WITH THE PETALUMA RIVER PARK FOUNDATION, AND, UH, THEY HAVE INDICATED THEIR SUPPORT FOR THIS APPROACH TO PROVIDING, UM, FULL ACCESS TO THE PENINSULA, INCLUDING THIS, UH, STEAMER LANDING PART. SO WE RECEIVED A VARIETY OF PUBLIC COMMENTS OVER THE COURSE OF APPROXIMATELY A YEAR AND A HALF THAT THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN UNDER PLANNING REVIEW. UH, THERE WERE CONCERNS EXPRESSED ABOUT THE ADEQUACY OF THE SE A DOCUMENT. IN PART, THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THE A DOCUMENT WAS PEER REVIEWED, FOLLOWING PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION, UH, TO THE COUNCIL TO ADOPT, UH, THE C A DOCUMENT. UM, WE ALSO RECEIVED A REQUEST FOR A GRANT OF EASEMENT TO VOL FROM VULCAN LANDS. UH, THE CITY AND THE APPLICANT HAVE NEGOTIATED WITH VULCAN LANDS AND, UH, THE PROJECT'S, TENTATIVE SUBDIVISION MAP CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL HAVE BEEN REVISED TO REFLECT MUTUAL AGREEMENT ON, UM, THAT REQUEST FROM VULCAN LANDS. THEN THE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE NATURE OF DEVELOPMENT, INCLUDING THE DENSITY, THE FACT THAT IT'S, UH, SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED, OR MULTIFAMILY, UH, THE AMOUNT OF OF MARKET RATE UNITS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THIS PROJECT, THE LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND IMPACTS TO THE RIVER, AS WELL AS SEA LEVEL RISE OF, UH, TRAFFIC AND CONGESTION ON D STREET, UM, DEVELOPMENT DURING THE DROUGHT AT THE TIME THAT THE PROJECT CAME BEFORE PLANNING COMMISSION AND OTHER, UH, CCBS FOR, UM, STUDY SESSION AND PRELIMINARY REVIEW, UH, WE WERE IN A PERIOD OF A DECLARED DROUGHT. UM, AND THEN AS, AS WE'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE INCREASING URBANIZATION OF THE PETALUMA COMMUNITY, UM, ESPECIALLY CONCERNS ABOUT DOWNTOWN INFILL, BUT THEN WE ALSO RECEIVED, UH, COMMENTS SUPPORTING, UM, THE CREATION OF ADDITIONAL HOUSING IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. AND SO, FINALLY, ONE, ONE LAST TO NOTE ABOUT PUBLIC COMMENT. I BELIEVE THERE WERE TWO PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT WERE PUBLISHED TO, UH, THIS EVENING'S AGENDA, UH, THAT WERE RECEIVED RECENTLY, AND BOTH WERE IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT, UH, PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF THE BENEFITS OF HOUSING BEING DEVELOPED IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. [02:55:02] AND SO, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL THIS EVENING IS TO ADOPT THE M AND D AND THE ASSOCIATED M M R P. UH, WE RECOMMEND A COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT AND ALSO THAT THE COUNCIL APPROVE FIRST READING, INTRODUCING AN ORDINANCE TO ADOPT A ZONING MAP AMENDMENT, AND THEN ALSO TO APPROVE THE, UH, TENTATIVE SUBDIVISION OR TENTATIVE MAP FOR SUBDIVISION AND CONDOMINIUM PURPOSES AND ASSOCIATED SMART CODE WARRANT REQUESTS. STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS, AND THE APPLICANT DOES HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION AS WELL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LET'S BRING THE, UM, APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION FORWARD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, . ALRIGHT, WELL, THANK YOU ANDREW. ARE, ARE WE READY? OKAY. JUST WANNA MAKE SURE. THANK YOU ANDREW. AND GOOD EVENING MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS. UM, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK ANDREW AND THE STAFF, UH, FOR THEIR DILIGENT WORK ON THE OYSTER COVE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, AS ANDREW SAID, UM, OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF. AND THIS INCLUDES, UH, HELPING RESOLVE THE EASEMENT ISSUE WITH OUR NEIGHBOR, UH, THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF WHERE ALL PARTIES ARE NOW IN AGREEMENT. NEXT, NEXT, UH, SO TONIGHT I'M GONNA BE GOING OVER THE PROPONENTS QUICKLY, THE SETTING, UH, AND THE VISION. THIS IS AN ABBREVIATED VERSION OF THE PRESENTATION THAT WE GAVE TO PLANNING COMMISSION IN MAY, UM, THE NIGHT THAT WE RECEIVED A UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL. NEXT. SO THE PROPONENTS, UM, ARE FIRST, UH, THE LIN FAMILY. THEY'RE SELLING THE PROPERTY AND THEY WILL NOT BE THE DEVELOPER. URBAN WAS CHOSEN BY THE LINS AS THE PREFERRED DEVELOPER. AND TONIGHT WE HAVE KEITH MCCOY AND SCOTT WARD HERE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. IF YOU HAVE, UM, QUESTIONS FOR THE DEVELOPER AND THEN THE CONSULTANT TEAM. UM, AGAIN, I'M BARRY LONG WITH URBAN DESIGN ASSOCIATES, AND WE WERE THE LEAD FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND PLANNING. UH, C B G, OUR CIVIL ENGINEERS, UM, ARE IN ATTENDANCE TONIGHT, AND THAT WOULD BE ANGELO, UH, ELLO. SO IF YOU HAVE ENGINEERING QUESTIONS, UM, HE'S HERE TO ANSWER THOSE. AND THEN RIPLEY DESIGN, UM, OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS NEXT. UM, WE'VE CONDUCTED A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS THROUGHOUT, UH, AND YOU CAN SEE A LIST OF, UH, PARTIAL LIST OF THE STAKEHOLDERS, UM, THAT WE'VE MET WITH, UH, KNOW BEFORE YOU GROW. UM, WE'VE KEPT IN TOUCH WITH, UH, CONTINUOUSLY THE BIKE AND PET ADVISORY COMMITTEE, NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, UH, PLANNING, COMMISSION STUDY SESSION, THEN AGAIN ON MAY 9TH. UM, WE WERE BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A HEARING NEXT. AND I WOULD SAY ABOUT THAT ON, ON THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. WE DO APPRECIATE ALL THE COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED, AND THE PLAN WAS AMENDED AND MODIFIED AS IT WENT. SO WE TAKE THAT VERY SERIOUSLY. UM, THE SITE SHOWN HERE IN RED, UH, IS NESTLED IN THE HEART OF PETALUMA'S, UM, PEDESTRIAN AND BIKE NET WORTH, BOTH IMPLEMENTED AND PLANNED. AND WE PLAN TO FIT INTO THE 15 MINUTE NEIGHBORHOOD AS A PUZZLE PIECE. UH, OYSTER COVE WON'T MAKE PETALUMA A COMPLETE 15 MINUTE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT WE DO BELIEVE IN THAT AND SUPPORT IT. AND WE INTEND TO BE IN, UH, CONSISTENT WITH THE INTENT, UM, THAT MOST DAILY NECESSITIES AND SERVICES ARE LOCATED WITHIN A 15 MINUTE, UM, WALK OR BIKE OF THE SITE. SO THIS ILLUSTRATION IS A, UH, 15 MINUTE WALK. IF YOU EXPAND OUT TO A 15 MINUTE BIKE, IT COVERS, UH, PRETTY MUCH THE ENTIRE CITY. NEXT, UM, THE, UM, OYSTER COVE SITE REPRESENTS, I THINK, AS WE'VE ALREADY HEARD, A REALLY IMPORTANT MISSING LINK, UM, DOWNTOWN BETWEEN THE TRANSIT MALL, THE SMART STATION, AND D STREET TO THE NORTHWEST AND STEAMER LANDING AND PETALUMA RIVER PARK TO THE SOUTHEAST. WE KNOW THERE'S THE, THE, UH, CITY'S TRAIL CONNECTION TODAY, BUT IT'S, UM, A LITTLE TENTATIVE. AND WE BELIEVE THAT THE PLANNING THAT'S GONE ON AND THE PLAN THAT'S PROPOSED COULD SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVE THAT. NEXT, SO THE VISION IS TO INTEGRATE SMART GROWTH PRINCIPLES, AS ANDREW SAID, UM, AS WE CREATE AN ACTIVATED WATERFRONT DESTINATION NEXT. AND IT ALL STARTS FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE [03:00:01] WITH MOBILITY. THIS IS THE FOUNDATION OF OUR PLANNING APPROACH. UH, FOR MOST OF US, THERE'S A RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN TRIP, TRIP LENGTH AND THE MODE THAT WE CHOOSE FOR TRANSPORTATION. SO TO DISCOURAGE SINGLE OCCUPANCY VEHICLE USE, OUR STRATEGY IS TO FACILITATE MANY MODES, UM, ON SITE. AND WE'RE ALWAYS THINKING ABOUT CREATING EQUALLY SAFE AND PLEASANT EXPERIENCES TO, UM, ROUTE TO NEARBY DESTINATIONS. NEXT. SO WALKABILITY IS THE KEY, AND THIS IS AN ILLUSTRATION THAT HIGHLIGHTS EXISTING IN PROPOSED OYSTER COVE CONNECTIONS. SO THE ENHANCEMENTS BEGIN ALONG D STREET, INCLUDING A NEW CLASS FOUR BIKE LANE, WIDEN SIDEWALK AND A TERRACE ALONG THE PROPOSED LIVE WORK UNITS. FROM THERE, A NEW 12 FOOT WIDE MULTIPURPOSE PATH WILL EXTEND ALONG THE RIVERFRONT TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO THE PARKS. THE ICONS SHOWN HERE IN, UM, BLUE, THE BLUE PINS INDICATE GATEWAY SIGNAGE, LOCATIONS FOR THE PARKS, PLUS BIKE PARKING, AND THEN WIDENING, UH, WINDING THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE SITE. WE HAVE A PUBLIC SIDEWALK NETWORK, AND THAT'S REPRESENTED IN YELLOW. I MEAN, WE'VE ADDED A TAUT LOT IN THE, UM, MAGENTA COLOR, UH, IN THE UPPER CORNER WITH VIEWS LOOKING DOWN THE MCNAIR CANAL NEXT. AND THAT PET AND BIKE NETWORK IS COMPLIMENTED BY AN ACCESS AND FIRE, UH, SAFETY NETWORK. SO THERE ARE NO INTERNAL STREETS AND THUS NO ON-STREET PARKING. AND WE SAID BEFORE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND WE'VE SAID BEFORE, UM, IN CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD WITH FOLKS HERE LOCALLY, THAT IN OUR WORK AND WE HAVE A NATIONAL URBAN DESIGN PRACTICE, IT'S ALMOST UNPRECEDENTED. WE HAVE A PROJECT WITHOUT ANY NEW STREETS, BUT THIS IS A PROJECT WHERE WE DON'T HAVE ANY NEW STREETS PROPOSED. SO THE LINE, THE LANES ARE GONNA FACILITATE ACCESS, SERVICE, UM, FIRE PROTECTION FOR RESIDENTS, UH, ACCESS TO THE HERITAGE CENTER AND THE TWO PARKS AND CARS, UH, IN THIS PLANT ARE KEPT OFF THE WATERFRONT. NEXT, UH, THIS IS A VISION FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE HAVE TAKEN A STEP BACK, I THINK AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS IN OUR APPROACH TO ARCHITECTURE AND CONSIDERED, UH, NOW THREE STYLISTIC APPROACHES, UM, THAT WE BELIEVE COULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THE SITE. UM, ON THE LEFT IS, UH, AN INDUSTRIAL STYLE IN THE CENTER, MODERN AND ON THE RIGHT TRADITIONAL NEXT. UM, BUT FROM THESE PRESIDENTS AND PREVIOUS, UH, FEEDBACK, UH, WE'VE ONLY GONE TO THE POINT TODAY OF DEVELOPING A LIST OF PRELIMINARY ARCHITECTURAL PRINCIPLES. SO WE'VE GONE BACK FROM, I THINK, UM, VERY DETAILED ILLUSTRATIONS TO KIND OF THE FOUNDATION OF WHAT THE ARCHITECTURE SHOULD LOOK LIKE. SO THE PRELIMINARY ARCHITECTURAL PRINCIPLES ARE, FIRST, IT SHOULD BE HAVE INTEGRITY, NO ARBITRARY ELEMENTS SHOULD BE AUTHENTIC LOCAL REFERENCES, DIVERSITY OF ELEVATIONS, SIMPLE BUILDINGS, FORMS, UTILITARIAN AND DETAILING INDUSTRIAL MATERIALS AND MIXED OF SUBDUED COLORS. AND ALL THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS CAME FROM STAKEHOLDERS AND RESIDENTS THAT WE MET WITH HERE. UH, AND WE THINK THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD LIST AS A FOUNDATION. UH, WE'D LIKE TO GET FEEDBACK TONIGHT ON YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT STYLE SO THAT WHEN WE COME BACK FOR SPAR, WE CAN BE ON POINT NEXT. UH, THE PLAN FEATURES A MIX OF USES, UH, LIVE WORK UNITS ALONG D STREET TO SUPPORT THE CITY'S ACTIVATION GOALS, RECREATION AND COMMERCIAL IN THE EXISTING OYSTER SHED, BUILDING TRAILS AND PUBLIC ACCESS ALONG THE RIVERFRONT. AND ALL OF THIS IS FRAMED BY A BROAD MIX OF HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES AND CHOICES. UH, THE PLAN PRESERVES THE OPTION FOR FOUR STORIES ALONG D STREET AND THE NUMBERS, UH, ARE 131 UNITS, SEVEN POINT A 5% LOW, AND SEVEN POINT A HALF PERCENT MODERATE AFFORDABLE UNITS PEPPERED ACROSS THIS SITE AND UP TO 1280 USE NEXT. SO I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO TELL YOU TODAY THAT D STREET IN ITS CURRENT, UH, STATE IS UH, SORT OF A SAD EXPERIENCE. IT'S NOT THE MIXED USE VISION THAT THE COMMUNITY ENVISIONS. SO THIS IS A GOOD PLACE TO START DISCUSSING OUR APPROACH TO PLACEMAKING. NEXT, UM, D STREET. TOMORROW IS AN ENVISION IS ENVISIONED AS AN AUTHENTIC URBAN EXPERIENCE. UH, NEW STREET LEVEL ENERGY IS PROPOSED WITH A MIX OF MAKER SPACE GALLERIES AND RETAIL. WE HAVE A CLASS FOUR BIKE LANE, WHICH YOU CAN SEE HERE. WE HAVE A BUFFER THEN ON THE LEFT BIKE LANE SIDEWALK, A GRADE TRANSITIONING TERRACE LEVEL. AND, UH, WE'RE MAXED OUT TO, UM, 30 FEET FROM THE CURB TO [03:05:01] THE BUILDING, UM, WHICH IS AS FAR BACK AS WE CAN GO FOR, UH, FIRE. UM, BUT WE'VE CREATED A PRETTY, UM, GENEROUS PEDESTRIAN ENVIRONMENT. AND THE ELEVATED TERRACE IS TO HELP WITH A SEA LEVEL RISE SOLUTION USING THE GRADE CHANGE TO OUR ADVANTAGE. AND A SEAT WALL IN LANDSCAPING, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE. UH, I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE GONNA SAY, I'LL JUST AD LIB AND SAY IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GONNA HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT, UM, LIVEWORK OR COMMERCIAL USES FACING D STREET. WE'RE, UH, FOLLOWING THE SPECIFIC PLAN, WHICH IS THE ZONING FOR THE SITE, WHICH REQUIRES COMMERCIAL USES HERE. WE DID NOT ASK FOR A WARRANT, UM, FOR THAT. BUT, UH, IN OUR PRACTICE, I WOULD SAY WE ARE TRYING TO BUILD IN MORE FLEXIBILITY JUST IN GENERAL IN URBAN ENVIRONMENTS SO THAT THINGS CAN EVOLVE OVER TIME. 'CAUSE AS WE KNOW, URBAN ENVIRONMENTS ARE NOT STATIC. UM, I THINK WHERE WE ALL LIVE TODAY, UH, TENDS TO BE A LIVE WORK UNIT. WE FOUND OUT DURING THE PANDEMIC AND THINGS CHANGE. NEXT, UM, THE CHARACTER OF OUR LANES IS MEANDERING WITH TACTILE PERVIOUS PAVING MATERIALS. AND OF NOTE, WE'RE PROPOSING WHAT WE CALL A EUROPEAN PATTERN. THERE'S NO LONG CANYONS. UH, THERE IS NO ON STREET, UH, PARKING INTERNAL TO THE PROJECT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE STREETS, UH, WHICH EQUATES TO ABOUT A 30% REDUCTION OFF THE TOP OF WHAT YOU WOULD SEE IN A, UM, CONVENTIONAL EVEN URBAN INFILL NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE STREETS WITH ON-STREET PARKING. UM, HALF OF THE UNITS IN LIVEWORK BUILDINGS WILL BE LIMITED TO ONE CAR UNITS WITH ADUS ARE PROPOSED TO HAVE ONLY ONE, UH, ONE CAR GARAGE, AND THEN THE ADUS WILL HAVE NO DEDICATED PARKING. UM, AND TANDEM PARKED UNITS MAY HAVE A ONE CAR GARAGE OPTION AS A TRADE-OFF FOR ADDITIONAL LIVING SPACES IN GENERAL ON THE PARKING, WE'VE TRIED TO STRIKE A BALANCE. WE'RE THINKING ABOUT LONG-TERM ADAPTATION HERE. THE SPECIFIC PLAN SETS A VERY LOW, UH, THRESHOLD FOR PARKING. AND OVER TIME, RESIDENTS WOULD HAVE THE OPTION TO CONVERT AS OUR 15 MINUTE NEIGHBORHOOD BUILDS OUT IN ITS COMPLETED IN TERMS OF THE NETWORK AND OTHER COMPLIMENTARY INFILL IS, UH, COMES IN, CAN EVOLVE OVER TIME. SO WE ARE THINKING ABOUT EVOLUTION NEXT. UM, WE'RE EXPLORING THE REUSE OF THE OYSTER SHED BUILDING. UM, IT IS DETERMINED NOT TO BE HISTORIC, UH, BUT WE BELIEVE STRONGLY WE'RE SAVING NEXT. SO THE PLAN IS TO REUSE THE SHED TO HELP ACCESS AND ACTIVATE THE RIVERFRONT USES BEING EXPLORED INCLUDE BOATHOUSE, PUBLIC PLAZA WITH WATER ACCESS, AND A SMALL COMMERCIAL USE TO INCLUDE F AND B AND POSSIBLY CO-WORKING SPACE. NEXT, UH, THE INDUSTRIAL RIVERFRONT ON THIS SITE TODAY IS, AS YOU ALL KNOW, NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. IT'S FENCED OFF NEXT. SO THE CONCEPT FOR WHAT WE'RE CALLING THE QUA IS TO REPURPOSE THE EXISTING LOADING DOCK INTO AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET OUT OVER THE WATER, UM, CREATING A, A DINING PLAZA OUTSIDE THE OYSTER SHED, WHICH YOU CAN SEE IN THE DISTANCE AT THE END OF THE PATH. AND BRING A NATIVE LANDSCAPE AESTHETIC FROM THE RIVER'S EDGE TO DEVELOPMENT AND IMPLEMENT THE RIVERFRONT, UM, WIDE, UH, MULTIPURPOSE PATH ALL THE WAY ALONG THIS FRONTAGE AND WRAPPING, UH, AROUND THE OYSTER SHED BUILDING. AND THEN BACK UP TO D STREET. NEXT, UH, WE'RE COMMITTED TO ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY, SO WE'LL BE ACHIEVING, UM, COW GREEN TIER ONE RECYCLING OF THE METAL WAREHOUSE BUILDINGS. THERE ARE TWO METAL WAREHOUSE BUILDINGS ON SITE, WHICH YOU'RE PROBABLY AWARE OF, WHICH ARE NEWER, WHICH ARE PLANNED TO COME DOWN. THIS IS NOT THE OYSTER SHED BUILDING. UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD WILL BE A HUNDRED PERCENT ELECTRIC PERMEABLE PAVING FOR LANES AND PLAZAS, UH, LOW WATER USE, LANDSCAPING SHARED EV AND BIKE CHARGING STATIONS THAT WOULD BE ONSITE. AND THEN WIRING FOR EV UH, CHARGING STATIONS AND BIKE RACKS IN EACH GARAGE. AND THEN ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND, UH, MOBILITY EDUCATION FOR RESIDENTS THROUGHOUT NEXT. SO I JUST CONCLUDE BY SAYING IT'S A UNIQUE CENTRAL RIVERFRONT SETTING. UH, THE SITE PRESENTS, WE BELIEVE ITS OWN SET OF SPECIAL OPPORTUNITIES, UH, AND WE BELIEVE THIS UNDERUTILIZED, UH, INDUSTRIAL SITE CAN BE TRANSFORMED INTO AN AUTHENTIC PETALUMA PLACE THAT LEVERAGES MOBILITY OPTIONS, PRIORITIZING PEDESTRIANS AND BIKES, AND ACTIVATING THE WATERFRONT IN NEW AND EXCITING WAYS. SO I'LL SAY THANK YOU, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION. UH, CAN I ASK STAFF IS ARE WE BRINGING THIS BACK TO COUNCIL NOW FOR THE, THIS WHERE QUESTIONS? PERFECT. UH, YES. THE MATTER. [03:10:01] THANK YOU. AND SO I'D LIKE TO BRING IT BACK TO, UM, TO COUNCIL AND SAY, SEE IF ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS. AND COUNCIL MEMBER HEALY, I JUST HAD ONE RIGHT NOW. AND, UM, I WAS HOPING MR. TRIPLE COULD DO A LITTLE DEEPER DIVE INTO THE, UM, UH, CONDITIONS THAT VULCAN, UH, EX, UH, ASKED FOR AND APPARENTLY GOT, UM, FROM, FROM THE DEVELOPER. SURE. SO VULCAN WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS OF THEIR EXISTING OPERATIONS, UM, UPON FUTURE RESIDENTS OF THE SITE. UM, AND I'LL INVITE, UH, CITY ATTORNEY DANLEY TO JOIN ME IN THIS DISCUSSION. UH, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WAS THAT UNDER THE, AT, AT PRESENT, THE SMART CODE REQUIRES US TO CONDITION PROJECTS TO NOTIFY, UH, VIA A RECORDING WITH THE SONOMA COUNTY RECORDER OF THE POTENTIAL FOR NUISANCE, UH, RESULTING FROM INDUSTRIAL USES, UH, RIVER DEPENDENT INDUSTRIAL USES IN THE AREA. SO, AND CERTAINLY VULCAN SHAMROCK IS ONE OF THOSE USES. UM, VULCAN FELT IT, IT'S AN INDUSTRIAL USE. IT'S REALLY NOT RIVER DEPENDENT. WHAT'S THAT? IT'S, IT'S DEFINITELY AN INDUSTRIAL USE. I WOULDN'T CALL IT RIVER DEPENDENT. WELL, TRUE. RIGHT? OKAY, THAT'S A GREAT POINT. UH, SO THE INDUSTRIAL, THE INDUSTRIAL USE THAT'S EXISTED THERE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, I BELIEVE, EVEN PRIOR TO THE, THE EARLY 1960S. UM, AND SO, UH, VULCAN, ALTHOUGH THE SMART CODE RECOGNIZES THAT THOSE POTENTIAL IMPACTS AND REQUIRES THAT WE CONDITION PROJECTS TO RECORD A NOTIFICATION ABOUT POTENTIAL NUISANCE, UH, RESULTED, UM, RESULTING FROM THOSE INDUSTRIAL USES, UH, VULCAN INITIALLY DESIRED THAT THERE BE A BIT STRONGER LANGUAGE, UM, TO ENSURE AND TO PROTECT, UH, VULCAN FROM A POTENTIAL LAWSUIT, CIVIL SUITS, UH, THAT FUTURE PROPERTY OWNERS MIGHT, UM, MIGHT BE INDUCED TO FILE AGAINST, UH, VULCAN SHAMROCK. YEAH. SO, UM, THANKS ANDREW. AND IF I, IF I, IF NOW'S A GOOD TIME, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL PITCH IN AND SAY, RIGHT. I MEAN, WE, VULCAN EXPRESSED CONCERNS ABOUT, UM, NUISANCE CLAIMS BASED ON ITS OPERATIONS. UM, THEY WERE AWARE, HAD REVIEWED THE, UM, NOTICING REQUIREMENT, UM, IN THE SMART CODE, AND, UM, INITIALLY WERE SEEKING A GRANT OF NUISANCE EASEMENT, UM, THAT WAS CONCERNING TO THE APPLICANT BECAUSE OF POTENTIAL IMPACTS ON, UM, ON THEIR, THE, THE SALE PRICES FOR THEIR UNITS AND ALSO POTENTIALLY ON THEIR FINANCING. VULCAN RAISED THE ISSUE OF SEEKING AN ACTUAL, UM, AMENDMENT TO THE SMART CODE, UM, SEEKING IMMUNITY FROM THOSE, UM, NUISANCE ACTIONS. WE RAISED CONCERNS THAT WE THOUGHT THE COUNCIL MIGHT HAVE AND WE MIGHT HAVE AND, AND RECOMMENDING OR SUPPORTING THAT BECAUSE, UM, OF THE ISSUE OF THE COUNCIL TAKING A LEGISLATIVE POSITION PREFERRING THIS ONE USE TO NEIGHBORING USES. UM, AND QUESTIONS ABOUT THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THAT. SO THE PARTIES HAD SOME, I THINK, PRODUCTIVE DISCUSSIONS. WE WERE PARTY TO SOME AND, UM, AND WHAT WE ENDED UP WITH, UM, YOU CAN SEE ON PAGES SIX AND SEVEN CONDITIONS, 14 AND 15 IN THE, IN THE, UM, IN THE MAP. UM, UM, ITEM, WHICH IS, WHICH ATTACHMENT IS THAT, ANDREW? IT WOULD BE ATTACHMENT FOUR. I'M GOING TO IT RIGHT NOW AND THANK YOU. 'CAUSE I ACTUALLY HAD MY, MY, UM, WEB COPY UP ON THE SCREEN AND THAT WAS, IT JUST GOT REPLACED BY THE, UM, BY THE ZOOM PRESENTATION. SO, UM, SO, SO WHERE WE ENDED UP AND WHERE THE, I THINK I BELIEVE THE PARTIES ARE, ARE, ARE, ARE IN AGREEMENT ON IS WE USED THE EXACT NOTICING LANGUAGE IN BOTH PARTS OF, UM, SECTION 4.70 0.050 OF THE SMART CODE. UM, AND WE DID THAT IN CONDITIONS 14 AND 15. UM, AND WE ALSO ADDED A PARAGRAPH IN CONDITION 14 AND 15 THAT'S NOT ON THE SMART CODE THAT PROVIDES, UM, USE SPECIFIC NOTICE REGARDING THE VULCAN OPERATIONS, UM, WHICH IS, IS SORT OF, UM, PROVIDES THEM MORE SPECIFIC NOTICE RECORDED NOTICE IN THE CONDITIONS. I, I DON'T RECALL USING PROJECT APPROVAL CONDITIONS LIKE THIS BEFORE TO TO WORK OUT ISSUES BETWEEN, UM, NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNERS. BUT THIS IS, [03:15:01] THIS IS AN APPROACH THAT, UM, STAFF CAN SUPPORT, UM, IT'S TRUE TO, AND, AND REFLECTS COMPLETELY ACCURATELY WHAT'S IN THE SMART CODE IN TERMS OF NOTICE. NOW, IT DOESN'T HAVE, AS FAR AS I KNOW, AND, AND THE, THE APPLICANT CAN SPEAK TO THIS MORE AND, AND, UM, IF THEY LIKE, IF THE COUNCIL WISHES, BUT I'M NOT, I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE IT HAS THE SAME DEGREE OF CONCERN FOR THEM AS, AS, UM, EARLIER APPROACHES THAT VULCAN WANTED TO EXPLORE. UM, SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE. IF THERE ARE FURTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, HAPPY TO ADDRESS 'EM. YEAH, YEAH, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF FOLLOW UP. I APPRECIATE THE SPECIFICITY IN FINDING THE LANGUAGE FOR ME. UM, UM, VULCAN, LIKE EVERY OTHER YOUTH IN TOWN IS SUBJECT CURRENTLY TO NOISE STANDARDS IN OUR INTERIM ZONING ORDINANCE. THIS DOESN'T PURPORT TO EXEMPT THEM FROM THOSE STANDARDS, DOES IT? NO, THAT'S WHAT WE ARE WORRIED ABOUT, POTENTIALLY WITH RESPECT TO THE PROPOSED IMMUNITY. UM, AND EVEN INDIRECTLY THE EASEMENT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, REMEMBER THAT THE DEFINITION OF AN EASEMENT IS AN UNREASONABLE USE OF PROPERTY THAT THAT INTERFERES WITH, UM, UM, OTHERS AND CHILDREN OF THEIR PROPERTY. SO, UM, IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH THE, THE VULCAN TEAM, THEY, THEY'VE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THEY KNOW THEY'RE SUBJECT TO CITY'S JURISDICTION, UH, OTHER BODIES, THE, THE, UM, BAY AREA AIR QUALITY MANAGEMENT DISTRICT'S JURISDICTION. UM, SO, SO THIS DOESN'T CHANGE ANY OF THAT. AND THAT'S, UM, WHY STAFF, AT LEAST STAFF FOR OUR PART, WERE GLAD TO END UP AT A PLACE THAT, UM, SEEMED TO WORK FOR THE APPLICANT ENABLING NEIGHBORING JURISDICTION THAT, UM, THAT DIDN'T, DIDN'T CREATE THOSE POTENTIAL PROBLEMS. UM, IN TERMS OF FAVORING USES, I MEAN OKAY, THANK YOU. THERE'S CHANGES HAPPENING THERE AND THE VULCAN OPERATION, YOU KNOW, IS AN HISTORIC OPERATION THERE. AND IT HAS BENEFITS TOO IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE MATERIALS THEY PROVIDE FOR LOTS OF IMPORTANT PROJECTS. SO HOPEFULLY THAT ALLOWS, UM, WHAT, WHAT REALLY PROVIDES FOR THE STATUS QUO AND NOTICE ABOUT THE STATUS QUO. UM, THE THING I'LL MENTION TOO IS, YOU KNOW, UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS, IS THAT THERE IS A, AN AGREEMENT, UM, THAT IN RETURN FOR INCLUDING THESE, THIS LANGUAGE IN THE CONDITIONS THAT FOLK CAN AGREES TO NOT OPPOSE OR CHALLENGE AND TO SUPPORT THE PROJECT. AND I LET THE PARTIES, YOU KNOW, CONFIRM THAT AS THEY MAY, BUT THAT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU. AND ANY OTHERS? COUNCIL MEMBER SCHREM? UM, SO I'VE GONE THROUGH AND, AND LISTENED IN ON SEVERAL OF THE PRIOR PRESENTATIONS ON THIS, AND, UM, I STILL, UH, HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS AND JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THINGS. MAYBE THINGS WERE ANSWERED BEFORE, BUT I DO HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS. UM, I GUESS JUST TO START OFF, I DID HEAR ABOUT, UM, SEVERAL OF THE FOLKS ASKING FOR A DIFFERENT PLANT SPECIES SPECTRUM, UH, MORE TOWARD THE NATIVE. AND, UM, I WAS, AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WILL BE POSSIBLY CHANGED AND REVIEWED, UH, IN ANOTHER PROCESS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT OR SUGGEST ANYTHING TONIGHT. BUT I THINK THAT'S A DIFFERENT STAGE THAT'S GONNA BE, UH, WE PROVIDED A PRELIMINARY LANDSCAPE PLAN. IT HAS TO GO THROUGH THE SPAR PROCESS, SO YES. YOU'RE NOT REVIEWING THAT TONIGHT. IT WILL GO THROUGH SPAR. OKAY, GOOD. SO THAT, THAT, THAT CAN BE WORKED ON. YES. THAT WORK THAT WILL BE WORKED ON. YES. OKAY, GOOD. UM, NOW THE ABOVE GROUND WIRES ON D STREET, AS YOU WIDEN AND, AND PUT THOSE IN, I KNOW THERE'S POLES AND WIRES. I'VE TRAVELED ON MY BIKE ALL THE TIME. SO ARE THOSE ALL GOING UNDERGROUND AND ARE YOU DOING THAT OR IS THE CITY GONNA HAVE TO DO THAT? WELL, THE GOOD NEWS IS, UH, ON OUR FRONTAGE, THAT'S, UH, LOCAL DISTRIBUTION AND THE, UH, PROJECT WILL BE UNDERGROUNDING WHERE WE HAVE NEXUS AND JURISDICTION, UH, ALONG D STREET IN OUR SECTION. IN YOUR SECTION. OKAY, GOOD. YEAH. AND THEN ALONG THE OTHER, UH, ON THE OTHER SIDE, LIKE, LIKE THE PATHS, UH, WILL THEY ALSO BE UNDERGROUNDED ON THAT SIDE? WE ONLY HAVE JURISDICTION AND, AND I SHOULD SAY IT'S NOT JUST THE WIRES, BUT WHAT WE SHOWED THERE, WE ILLUSTRATED WITH A CLASS FOUR BIKE LANE. THE BUFFER WE'RE GIVING UP RIGHT OF WAY TO BE ABLE TO CREATE THAT SECTION AND, AND PULLING THE BUILDINGS BACK. UH, WE DON'T HAVE, UH, WELL, I THINK THE, UM, THE CITY'S, UH, PLAN FOR D STREET IS TO HAVE THAT SAME SECTION EVENTUALLY MIRRORED ON BOTH SIDES AND RUNNING ALL THE WAY DOWN TO, UM, OKAY. BUT THE CITY'S GONNA, THE SMART STATION, THE CITY'S GONNA HAVE TO DO THAT OR THE OTHER, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS APPLICANTS AS THEY COME IN WITH OTHER PLANS FOR THEIR FRONTAGE? YES. OKAY, GOOD. UM, THE, UM, EXIT ROUTES, THERE WAS, I THINK YOU TALKED ABOUT HAVING, UM, EMERGENCY ACCESS OFF HOP, UM, HOPPER STREET, AND THAT LOOKED PRETTY GOOD ON THAT SIDE, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S ACCESS THROUGH THE PARKING LOT, UM, ON THAT OTHER SIDE OF THE BUILDING THAT WOULD'VE ACCESS TO THE TRAIL. I THINK THAT WHAT'S, WHAT LOOKS LIKE WOULD [03:20:01] BE THERE, UM, AND THEY COULD EXIT OUT THAT WAY IN CASE THERE WOULD BE TWO ROUTES OUT ON THAT SIDE. IN WORKING WITH THE, I WANNA MAKE SURE I ANSWER THIS CORRECTLY. I THINK FROM A PEDESTRIAN BIKE STANDPOINT, THE SITE IS POROUS, , THERE'S A LOT OF WAYS IN AND OUT, UM, FROM A VEHICLE STANDPOINT WORKING WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ON THEIR PREFERRED CONFIGURATION, THE CONVERSATION WE JUST HAD, THAT GOES BACK A WAYS NOW. AND THEY ASKED FOR THE HOPPER STREET EMERGENCY VEHICLE ACCESS ONLY, UH, WHICH IS WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT ANDREW'S LAST SLIDE, WHICH MAKES THAT CONNECTION UP AT THE TOP, UM, HAS A SECOND MEANS OF, UH, INGRESS AND EGRESS. RIGHT. UH, THERE IS NOT A, NOR FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S, UH, STANDPOINT, IS IT DESIRABLE TO HAVE ANOTHER ACCESS, UH, ON THAT OTHER SIDE. RIGHT. JUST, JUST CHECKING WITH THAT. YEAH. UM, AND IN THAT PARTICULAR ROUTE, UH, BESIDES THE EMERGENCY ACCESS INN, WILL THAT BE ALSO A FIRE ACCESS OUT FOR THE VEHICLES THAT ARE HOPPER STREET IN AND OUT FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES? FOR BOTH. SO BOTH DIRECTIONS, NOT JUST ONE DIRECTION? CORRECT. AND YOUR TRAIL WILL RUN ADJACENT TO THAT EXISTING TRAIL? IT WILL BE GATED AND LOCKED OR JUST, UH, GATED? IT WILL BE, UM, I THINK WE HAVE TO WORK OUT THE DETAILS WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THEIR PREFERRED, UH, WAY. BUT IT, IT WON'T BE FREE FLOWING. THERE WILL BE, UH, SOME, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WILL HAVE, UM, UH, KEY ACCESS THERE OR WHAT THEY CHOOSE. I DON'T WANT TO GET OUT IN FRONT OF THAT. SO WHEN WE GET INTO THE DETAILS, IT'S LIKE PLAN AND SPARK IS, IS HE IF IT'S GATED OR BICYCLE ACCESS THROUGH THAT PARTICULAR POINT OR NOT? WELL, YOU GOT THE TRAIL, UH, RIGHT NEXT TO IT. RIGHT NEXT WE GOT OUR RIVERFRONT TRAIL RIGHT ADJACENT TO IT, SO, OKAY. THAT'S STILL OX. YEAH. AND THAT, THAT WON'T BE GATED OR THAT'LL BE FREE FLOW. UH, WHICH BRINGS UP THE OTHER SIDE. UH, I CONCERNED IF WE HAVE THE BIG EARTHQUAKE COMES AND THE OTHER SIDE IS ON A PENINSULA AND EARTHQUAKE, UH, GAS LINE BREAKS, FIRE, UM, AND AT ACCESS OUT FROM THAT PENINSULA OUT GETS BLOCKED FOR EMERGENCY. AND LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE, UM, DIDN'T HAVE A DIRECT ROUTE OUT ON THE OTHER SIDE OUT TO THE PENINSULA FOR SAFETY, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THEY CAN GET OUT. BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IT ISN'T A DIRECT ROAD COMPLETE. IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S STILL LANDSCAPE INSTEAD OF A DIRECT ROUTE OUT. UM, WELL, I THINK I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ON THE END, AND WE'RE WORKING WITH, UH, UM, STEAMER LANDING AND FRIENDS OF THE RIVERFRONT ON THAT. THE EXISTING ACCESS DOWN THERE TODAY, YOU KNOW, IS THE TRAIL THEY DRIVE ON THE TRAIL. SO THAT IS THE CITY'S TRAIL THAT'S NOT BEING CHANGED. WE'RE PROVIDING NEW ACCESS, WHICH DOESN'T EXIST TODAY BY WAY OF THE LANE, THE RE UH, ORIENTED, UM, UH, ACCESS EASEMENT AND DOWN AT THE END OF IT. WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT IT, BUT, UM, THE DEVELOPER HAS OFFERED TO PROVIDE, UM, A FEW PARKING SPACES THERE, UH, AT THE EDGE OF THEIR PROPERTY, AT OUR EXPENSE AND ACCESS, UH, ADDITIONAL PAVED ACCESS DOWN THERE. BUT THAT'S, UM, YEAH, WE'RE WORKING ON THE DETAILS WITH THEM, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THATS DESIRABLE. SO ALL YOUR ROADS END IN, IN LANDSCAPE, THEY DON'T END IN, UH, ACCESS TO THE ACTUAL PATH. SO THE FOLKS THAT ARE IN THE BUILDINGS END IN LANDSCAPE. SO, SO EVERY, ALL YOUR ROUTES END AND IT GOES TO THE END OF THE BUILDINGS GO AND GOES TOWARD THE PATH AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE'S LANDSCAPE OR SOMETHING THERE BETWEEN THAT AND THE ACTUAL PATH. IT LOOKS LIKE IT ISN'T A DIRECT YEAH, I THINK YOU'RE, YES. I'M JUST GONNA SAY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS YEAH, THE ROADS, WE, WE SAID BEFORE, THE ROADS IN THE PATH DON'T INTERSECT. THE PSS AND THE BIKES ARE PROTECTED FROM, AND THEY'RE NOT REALLY ROADS, THEY'RE LANES. RIGHT. UM, THE PERVIOUS LANES, IT'LL, BUT YEAH, THEY DON'T, UH, CROSS THERE. THE LANE DOESN'T GO OUT INTO THE ROAD. THEY RUN THE, THE RIVERFRONT TRAIL KEEPS GOING, BUT IF THERE WAS, AND THERE'S A LOOP EXIT, WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS AN EMERGENCY EXIT FOR THE VEHICLES IN THE BUILDINGS DIRECTLY OUT TO THE PENINSULA IN CASE THERE IS A MAJOR, UH, INABILITY TO ACT, TO EXIT OUT THE NORMAL WAY YOU COULD. WELL, YOU'RE DEFINITELY GONNA HAVE PEDESTRIAN. YES. ACTUALLY, YOU, YOU COULD DRIVE OUT UNDER THE PENINSULA IF YOU WANTED TO. UM, AROUND THE END OF, UH, RIGHT THERE IS NOT BEING BLOCKED BY LANDSCAPE FENCING. YEAH. THERE'S A ROUTE OUT. YEAH. I'M NOT SURE WE WANTED, I MEAN, THE PENINSULA DOESN'T GO ANYWHERE TODAY. YEAH. SO I'M NOT SURE WE WANNA DO THAT, BUT WELL BLOCK THAT COULD BE REMOVED, WHATEVER, SO THAT PEOPLE CAN GET OUT SAFELY TO A SAFER SPOT IN CASE THERE IS IMMEDIATE FIRE DANGER RIGHT THERE. I WANNA UNDERSTAND YOUR EMERGENCY EVACUATION PLAN, LIKE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IN THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING BEFORE WE YEAH. TOLD FOLKS WHICH WAY TO GO. BUT YEAH, THERE'S, SO THAT'S WHY I WOULD ALSO SUPPORT THE ABILITY TO EXIT OUT THAT DIRECTION AND ALSO TO SUPPORT EVEN, UH, A LARGER, BETTER STURDIER BRIDGE ACROSS TO THE S CANNELL PROPERTY. MM-HMM. , IS ALSO WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR THERE. SO THAT SHOULD, EMERGENCY VEHICLES NEED TO GET IN THAT ROUTE BECAUSE IT'S BLOCKED FROM THE ROAD. YOU CAN'T GET IN FROM D STREET AT ALL. RIGHT. THAT'S TOTALLY BLOCKED. WHETHER IT IS SMALL FIRE ENGINE AMBULANCES COULD GET IN FROM THE SCANNELL PROPERTY, COME ACROSS PENINSULA INTO THE PROPERTY TO DO THE FIRE EXTRACTIONS, WHATEVER'S [03:25:01] NEEDED. SO I WOULD LOOK FOR AN EMERGENCY ENTRANCE AND EXIT FROM THAT ROUTE AS WELL AS FROM THE HOPPER STREET. WELL, I WOULD SAY, I'M AWARE THAT THE BRIDGE PROPOSAL, THE TRAIL THAT'S THERE TODAY IS FIRE ACCESS. RIGHT. AND THAT TRAIL WILL LINK ALL THE WAY UP WITH THAT BRIDGE, RIGHT? YEAH. SO AT A MINIMUM, YOU'RE GONNA GET THAT WE'RE JUST PROVIDING ENHANCED ACCESS. RIGHT. SO THAT'S WHY I JUST MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THAT FLOW IS, IS THERE AND THAT IDEA THAT FLOW'S NOT GONNA, WHAT YOU HAVE TODAY IS NOT GONNA BE INTERRUPTED. IT'LL STILL BE THERE. OKAY. UM, GOOD. THEN, UH, AS I TAKE MY KAYAK DOWN THE RIVER AND I LOOK AT THE PILINGS DOWN THERE AT THE OYSTER SHED MM-HMM. , AND LOOK AT THE CONDITION OF THAT SHED, IT'S PRETTY SHABBY. THE PILINGS LOOK PRETTY BAD, AND THE PICTURES YOU SHOW IS THIS BEAUTIFUL, NICE LOOKING GLASS FRONTED OYSTER SHED MM-HMM. . AND YET YOU'RE GONNA PRESERVE IT. SO THERE'S A MIX MATCH THAT I SEE BETWEEN WHAT THE CURRENT FACILITY AND THEN TRYING TO PRESERVE IT AND THEN WHAT YOU'RE PRESENTING, UH, PICTURES OF. AND I, I JUST DON'T SEE THE CONNECTION BETWEEN NICE, BEAUTIFUL NEW OYSTER SHED THAT YOU'RE PRESENTING AND YET PRESERVING THE PILINGS, THE PIERS IN THE CURRENT BUILDING. I DON'T SEE THAT POSSIBLE. HOW DO, WELL, AS FAR AS THE BUILDING GOES, THE BUILDING'S IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE ON THE INSIDE. ON THE INSIDE. IT'S BEAUTIFUL TRUS WORK AND IT HAS A PATINA ON THE OUTSIDE, BUT I THINK IT HAS A LOCAL PATINA AND IT'S OKAY. I DON'T KNOW. WE LOVE IT. 'CAUSE IT, I THINK IT ADDS AUTHENTICITY AND IT TALKS TO THE, SPEAKS TO THE HISTORY OF THE SITE AS FAR AS THE, UM, MOORINGS AND THINGS OF THAT. SOME OF THOSE HAVE TO COME OUT. UM, UH, THE, UM, UH, WELL, AS PART OF THE AGREEMENT FOR THE INDUSTRIAL USE, THEY HAVE TO BE TAKEN OUT WHEN THE INDUSTRIAL USE. AND SO WE'D LIKE TO KEEP THE QUAY AND THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE NEW FLOATING DOCKS PUT IN, WHICH THERE'LL BE A PERMIT PROCESS FOR DOWN THE FRONT. I THINK THAT'D BE THE EASIEST WAY TO RESPOND. SO THE DOCKS ARE GONNA HAVE TO BE, OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO BE NEW. THEY, THEY DON'T MEET ANY KIND OF LIFE SAFETY REQUIREMENT. THE SHED BUILDING IS IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE AND WE'D LIKE TO KEEP THE QUA. OKAY. BUT WE HAVE TO GET A PERMIT TO DO THAT. OKAY. YEAH. 'CAUSE WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT, UM, SAVING OUR TRESTLE AREA, WHICH IS SIMILAR LOOKING YEAH. TYPE THING. OKAY. UM, NOW ON YOUR BUILDING 21, WHICH IS TWO, YOU HAVE TWO BUILDINGS, UH, SITTING THERE, TWO UNITS, WHICH IS PRETTY ODD 'CAUSE ALL THE OTHERS ARE FOUR OR FIVE BUILDINGS. AND YOU HAVE TWO UNITS ON BUILDING 21, WHICH IS RIGHT ON THE EDGE, WHICH IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE TRAIN STATION. AND SINCE THERE'S, I DON'T SEE A, UM, I SEE A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE KIND OF MOVING IN, UM, WITH, AND EVENTUALLY, OKAY. THEY COME IN AS SINGLES, THEY GET MARRIED, THEY START HAVING KIDS. I, I IMAGINE A FEW KIDS ARE GONNA SHOW UP. I DON'T SEE A PLAYGROUND FOR THE CHILDREN, THE YOUNG CHILDREN. UM, INSTEAD OF THOSE TWO UNITS, HIGH NOISE FROM THE TRAIN, CONSTANTLY DAY, ALL DAY LONG, UH, FROM FROM THE TRAIN AND IT'S THE, THEY'RE THE CLOSEST TWO UNITS TO THE TRAIN RIGHT THERE. AND IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE KIND OF STUCK IN THERE. UM, NOT QUITE WITH THE, SIMILAR TO THE OTHER BUILDINGS. UM, PATTERN IS, IS THERE ANY WAY A POSSIBILITY OF TURNING THOSE TWO, TWO UNIT BUILDING INTO A CHILDREN'S PLAYGROUND AREA FOR, FOR THE FOLKS THAT WERE GONNA HAVE CHILDREN THERE? I'M HONESTLY, I DON'T KNOW WHICH BUILDING YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. WE DON'T HAVE ANY BUILDINGS WITH JUST TWO UNITS IN 'EM. UH, YEAH. BUILT UNIT 21 IS, UM, BUILDING 21, 21 HAS TWO. WE DO HAVE BUILDING 21 HAS TWO UNITS, BUT, UM, IT, IT BACKS UP TO THE RAILROAD SPUR THAT'S NOT USED RAILROAD SPUR. OKAY. NOT THE ACTUAL SMART TRAIN USED. RIGHT? CORRECT. YEAH. THAT'S THEIR, UH, IT'S ONE OF THE PROPERTIES THEY MAY OR MAY NOT USE. OKAY. I THINK IT WAS DISCUSSED. RIGHT. I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT. 'CAUSE THAT'S THE CLOSEST IN THE FUTURE, BUT THAT'S, WE HAVE A TAUGHT LOT UP THERE, UM, WHERE THE TRAIL COMES AROUND AND THERE IS NO THROUGH TRAFFIC UP THERE. SO WE THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS A GOOD PROTECTED PLACE, UM, FOR A TOT LOT. SO WE DO HAVE A TOT LOT, UM, INTEGRATED INTO THE PLAN, OUT INTEGRATED IN THERE SOMEWHERE. OKAY, GOOD. YEAH, WE DID, THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR. YEAH. THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS. COULDN'T SEE ONE, I THINK PLANNING COMMISSION ADDED AND WE AGREED WITH. YEAH, THERE IS TOT LOT. OKAY. GOOD. UM, IS THERE, UH, DID YOU LOOK AT A, A TRAFFIC, UH, A STREET WALKING ANALYSIS AS THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WALKING DOWN THE STREET FOR THOSE REAL RETAIL UNITS? I KNOW THEY'RE PUTTING IN, WE JUST HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE OTHER UNITS GOING VACANT AND NOT BEING ABLE TO SOLD. HAVE YOU DONE A STUDY TO LOOK AT THE ACTUAL, UH, TYPES OF WORK OR RETAIL THAT MIGHT GO IN THERE? UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IF YOU CAN TELL US WHAT'S GOING IN ACROSS THE STREET AT THE SMART STATION AND ON THE NEXT BLOCK, I THINK IT WOULD BE EASIER OKAY. TO PREDICT. BUT I THINK A PREDICTIVE MODEL WHEN WE'RE THE FIRST ONES IN IS VERY DIFFICULT. I'M JUST BEING HONEST ABOUT IT. OKAY. UM, YEAH. AND THAT, I'M SURE THERE'LL BE FLEX SPACE, AS YOU SAID, YOU SAID GONNA MAKE IT FLEXIBLE. RIGHT. SO IF THEY DO HAVE TO BE CONVERTED, THEY CAN BE CONVERTED TO HOUSING OR SOME OTHER USE AS A POSSIBILITY. YEAH. THAT'S NOT THE WAY WE DESIGNED IT, BUT ACTUALLY THE DESIGN WORKS WOULD WORK FOR THAT BECAUSE OF THE VERY DEEP SETBACK, THE 30 FOOT SETBACK AND THE TERRACING. AND IT COULD BE LOVELY EITHER WAY, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO BE RESPECTFUL OF YOUR ZONING ORDINANCE. IT COULD, COULD BE DOING ALL SORTS OF THINGS GOOD. AS LONG AS FLEXIBILITY IS IN THE SYSTEM. UM, WELL, IT'S NOT RIGHT NOW. SO [03:30:01] IF YOU WANT TO CONDITION IT THAT WAY, WE'D BE FINE WITH THAT, BUT THAT'S NOT OKAY. . I, I, I HEAR YOU. I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT. IT'S NOT OKAY. UM, THEN ON, UH, WE STILL HAVE THE, THERE'S TWO PROPERTIES THAT ARE NOT BEING USED. THERE'S THE LIND BUILDING THAT'S STILL GONNA EXIST THERE MM-HMM. , AND THEN THERE'S AN EMPTY LOT RIGHT NEXT TO IT. RIGHT. PRETTY MUCH THAT'S NOT GONNA GET USED. I ASSUMED YOU PROBABLY TALKED TO BOTH OF THOSE AND, BUT, UH, WHAT IS THE ACTUAL FUTURE FOR THOSE TWO PROPERTIES? DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING? I, I WOULD LET THE PROPERTY OWNERS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES. I KNOW THE LENS ARE, UH, STILL USING THAT BUILDING AS AN OFFICE BUILDING OR LEASING IT. THE NEXT PROPERTY'S OWNED BY THE MCNAIRS. AND AT THE TIME, UH, THIS PROCESS STARTED, THEY WEREN'T INTERESTED IN DISCUSSING HAVING IT BECOME PART OF OYSTER CUP, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I JUST THOUGHT I'D JUST CATCH UP ON THAT. OKAY. UH, YOU ASKED ABOUT, UH, UH, STYLE AND, AND I'M ACTUALLY MM-HMM. OPEN TO ALL YOU ASKED FOR STYLES. I SAID I'M OPEN TO SEVERAL OF THOSE STYLES. OKAY. UM, I, I PREFER A LITTLE TRADITIONAL MYSELF, BUT IF IT'S MODERN, THAT THAT'D BE FINE. UM, AND THEN THE, UH, LAST ONE, I GUESS MAYBE FOR OUR CITY TO TALK ABOUT, UM, UH, BECAUSE I'VE DONE RESTORATION ON CREEKS AND THE LIKE, AND THAT, AND THE MCNAIR CHANNEL, UM, WAS DUG OUT OVER A HUNDRED YEARS AGO, I THINK, UM, COMBINATION OF THE, UM, UH, CHINESE LABORERS AND ALSO THE, UM, ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEER, I THINK BOTH WORKED ON THAT AREA, BUT THEY COMPLETELY DUG THAT OUT. IT WAS A SMALL LITTLE CREEK AT ONE TIME, . AND, UM, IS THERE, UM, SO JUST CAN WE RESTORE THAT AREA, UM, AROUND THAT? YEAH. I KNOW YOU'RE GONNA BE DOING SOME PLANTINGS, BUT ARE YOU, HOW FAR DOWN ARE YOU GONNA PLAN ON RESTORING DOWN TO THAT, INTO THAT ZONE? YOU KNOW, WE DON'T OWN THAT FRONTAGE YOU DO AROUND THE MCNAIR CANAL, THAT'S ALREADY A CITY TRAIL. UM, THAT WAS, UM, I THINK GIVEN TO THE, THE LENS, UH, DEDICATED THAT LAND OF THE CITY SOME TIME AGO. SO WE DON'T OWN THAT FRONTAGE. OKAY. BUT THAT'LL BE A LATER QUESTION I'LL HAVE FOR WORKING WITH THE CITY ON, ON RESTORING THAT MAYBE TO A CREEK RATHER THAN A, UH, THE CHANNEL WAS BUILT FOR TO PUT IN BOATS BASICALLY, AND THAT WE DON'T PUT BOATS IN THERE ANYMORE, SO WE CAN TURN IT TO A CREEK IF WE SO WISH. MM-HMM. . OKAY. GOOD. UM, THAT, THAT COVERS ALL THE YES, THAT COVERED ALL MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY, UH, ANYONE ELSE? UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BARNUM? YEAH. TWO QUESTIONS. UM, ON THE AFFORDABLE UNITS, WILL THEY BE SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT? YES. OKAY. UM, AND THEN MY SECOND QUESTION GOES TO ACCESS POINTS, UM, BETWEEN BUILDING ONE AND BUILDING THREE. MM-HMM. . UM, AND I'M WONDERING, IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE PUSHING MORE VEHICLE TRAFFIC DOWN IN FRONT OF BUILDING SIX MM-HMM. . UM, AND I'M WONDERING WHY WE JUST DIDN'T CREATE ANOTHER ACCESS POINT BETWEEN BUILDING ONE AND BUILDING THREE. WELL, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION AND, UH, THE ANSWER ISN'T, I THINK SO EVIDENT IN PLAN VIEW, BUT THERE'S A GREAT SEPARATION THERE. THAT CORNER, THAT INTERSECTION IS LOW. SO, UM, IN OUR C LEVEL RISE PLAN, THAT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF THE FEW AREAS. THIS IS ACTUALLY RELATIVELY HIGH SITE FOR DOWNTOWN, BUT THAT CORNER IS LOW. SO THERE'S A GRADE CHANGE BETWEEN THAT LAST UNIT AND THE, UM, THE STREET. AND THEN WE HAVE TO DROP DOWN. COPELAND HAS TO DROP DOWN TO PICK UP YOUR EXISTING PARKING LOT, WHICH IS GONNA BE IMPROVED. COPELAND WILL BE IMPROVED THERE. UM, BUT IT'S AN EXISTING STREET, SO IT'S A GRADING ISSUE. UM, AND ACTUALLY FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT STANDPOINT, THEY LIKE THE OTHER, UH, LOCATION BECAUSE IT ALIGNS WITH GETTING AROUND TO THAT HOPPER STREET. UM, E V A ON THE OTHER SIDE BECAUSE WE DON'T OWN THE PROPERTY OR THE PROPERTY'S NOT INCLUDED, WHERE YOU JUST ASKED ABOUT THE LINS OFFICE BUILDING AND THEN THE MCNAIR PARCEL THAT'S ON D STREET. SO THE STREET, THE WRAPPING, THE ALIGNMENT, THE INTERSECTION WORKS WELL FOR THEM. THEY CAN COME IN THE BACK AND GO ALL THE WAY AROUND, UM, SEAMLESSLY. SO, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION THOUGH, BUT IT'S A, THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION, IT'S NOT, IT'S JUST ENOUGH, UH, GREAT SEPARATION THAT IT'S A LITTLE TOO MUCH FOR A VEHICLE. OKAY. MAYBE I'LL JUMP IN A LITTLE BIT DEEPER ON THAT THEN. IS THERE, IS THAT GONNA HAVE ANY PEDESTRIAN ACCESS THERE? ANY? YEAH. YEAH. SO, OKAY. SO IT'S JUST BASICALLY, IT JUST WON'T, YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO GET A CAR THROUGH. WHAT ABOUT BICYCLE THERE? YEAH, AND WE DIDN'T GET INTO IT, BUT, UH, EVEN ON D STREET, WHEN YOU COME OFF OF D STREET, WE ACTUALLY ROLL UP ONTO THE, UM, UPPER TERRACE ON A RAMP. 'CAUSE THE SITE'S FULLY ACCESSIBLE. AND THEN THERE'S A RAMP DOWN AT THE OTHER END. AND THEN SOME PLACES THERE'S A STEP, SOME PLACES THERE'S A COUPLE STEPS. I THINK OUR PERSPECTIVE IS KIND, IT'S ACCURATE, BUT IT'S IN THE MIDDLE. UM, BUT IT DROPS AS YOU COME OVER THE DRAWBRIDGE. YOU CAN IMAGINE. OR IF YOU GO OUT THERE AND LOOK, IT DROPS DOWN TO THE COPELAND INTERSECTION, WHICH IS LOW, AND THEN THAT DROPS DOWN TO YOUR PARKING LOT. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. MM-HMM. . THANK YOU. [03:35:02] COUNCIL MEMBER. NOW, UM, COUNCILMEMBER BARNACLES, UM, QUESTION REMINDS ME OF, UM, WE ALREADY DETERMINED WHAT THE EMERGENCY VEHICLES ARE GONNA DO. WHAT IS THE DELIVERY ROUTE? WE HAVE COSTCO DELIVERS, AMAZON DELIVERS, U P S DELIVERS, FEDEX DELIVERS. HOW ARE THEY GOING TO DELIVER TO THOSE RESIDENTS? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. THEY, UM, THEY'LL USE THE ALLEY NETWORK. THERE IS A VERY MODEST AMOUNT OF, UH, ANCILLARY GUEST PARKING WHERE THEY CAN PULL OVER. AND THEN THE SIDEWALK NETWORK, UM, CONNECTS, UH, FROM THAT ALLEY NETWORK AROUND THE FRONT AND BACK, SEPARATE FROM THE TRAILS, SO YOU CAN HAVE A DELIVERY AT THE FRONT OF YOUR RESIDENCE. THANK YOU. THE OTHER QUESTION, UM, I WAS, UM, WONDERING IF, AND I KNOW IT WAS ANSWERED IN MY, UM, MEETING WITH THE DEVELOPER ABOUT ELEVATORS IN SOME OF THE UNITS BECAUSE, UM, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, HOPING THAT THE, UM, ELDERLY OR HANDICAP MOVE INTO THESE BUILDINGS, WHAT ABOUT ELEVATORS? CAN YOU EXPLAIN HOW THAT WILL WORK? WELL, I DON'T CONSIDER MYSELF ELDERLY, BUT I'M LOOKING AROUND AND WE'RE ALL THINKING ABOUT IT, RIGHT? SO, , WE DON'T LIKE STAIRS ANYMORE. , I KNOW WE LIKE STAIRS LESS THAN WE USED TO, BUT, UM, WHEN WE COME BACK THROUGH SPAR, I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE LOOKED AT IN THE SPAR PROCESS. I MEAN, THERE ARE WAYS TO ADAPT TOWNHOUSES, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT, UH, THE UNITS ARE. THERE'S A WIDE VARIETY OF TYPES OF TOWNHOUSES, BUT, UM, SO THAT SOME COULD HAVE ELEVATORS. AND, UH, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THAT THROUGH SPAR. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. . THAT'S AWESOME. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER SHIPS, UH, JUST FOLLOWING UP WITH COUNCILMAN NOW'S, UH, QUESTION IDEA, UH, FOR ALL THESE DELIVERY TRUCKS, WHICH IS NOW, UH, GETTING QUITE A BIT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, I KNOW MM-HMM. , UH, I'VE BEEN TO A, A APARTMENT COMPLEX LOCALLY HERE, AND THEY HAVE A, UH, DELIVERY ROOM WITH LOCKER SPACES. AND LIKE AMAZON, UM, HAS THEM IN DIFFERENT COUPLE DIFFERENT PLACES. BUT IS IT POSSIBLE TO TURN ONE OF THOSE RETAIL SPACES IN THE FRONT, UM, AND INTO A DELIVERY, UH, PACKAGE DELIVERY, UH, STATION SO THAT ALL AMAZON AND EVERYBODY ELSE, U P SS AND ALL THE OTHERS COULD DELIVER ALL PACKAGES THERE. SO THEY WOULD NOT HAVE TO COME IN ALL THE WAY CONSTANTLY ALL DAY LONG. IF THE RESIDENT WHO OWNED THAT UNIT WOULD LIKE TO CHARGE FOR THAT SERVICE, I'M SURE THAT THERE MIGHT BE. OKAY. THAT MIGHT BE A POSSIBILITY. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S PERMITTED USE OR NOT, BUT WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT. BUT, UH, ONE, I MEAN, ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK THAT'S, UM, I THINK WE FEEL A LITTLE MORE COMFORTABLE ABOUT THE LIVE WORK THAN A, THE COMMERCIAL APPROACH WE SAW BEFORE. WE HAVE A LARGE FLOOR PLATE THAT YOU HAVE TO LEASE OUT, IS THAT THE, UH, SPACES ARE INDIVIDUALLY OWNED, UM, BY THE RESIDENT. AND SO THAT THERE'S NOT, UM, COMMON AREA THERE. THERE'S SHARED AMENITIES ON THE SITE, AND WE'RE IN A WONDERFUL PART OF THE CITY. THERE'S SHARED AMENITIES ALL AROUND US. UM, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A COMMON, UM, ROOM LIKE THAT ON SITE, WHICH WOULD BE OWNED BY THE H O A. EVERYTHING IS, UM, WITHIN THE FOOTPRINT OF A RESIDENCE, UH, LEAVE A LIVE WORK UNIT OR TOWN HOME. THANK YOU. UM, I DO APPRECIATE YOUR, UH, ATTENTION TO 15 MINUTE NEIGHBORHOODS. UH, I KNOW I OCCASIONALLY CHARGE AT THE TRAIN STATION, CHARGING STATION, AND I CAN WALK TO PETE'S DOWNTOWN AND BACK. I CAN'T DILLY DALLY, BUT I CAN, YOU KNOW, BUT I CAN GET THE DONE. I WOULD MUCH RATHER BUY THE COFFEE AT THE, UH, THE NEW DEVELOPMENT AT OYSTER COVE, THEN THE EXTRA WALKING. UH, I APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENTION TO, UM, HAVING CONDOS. I THINK THAT HITS A, A MISSING, UH, UH, HOUSING TYPOLOGY FOR OUR COMMUNITY. IT'S, UH, HOPEFULLY A, A MORE OF A STARTER OR LOWER PRICE POINT THAN WHAT WE'RE SEEING FOR SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS. BUT, UM, ONE QUESTION ON, ON THAT IS, IF THEY DO ADD AN A D U, SAY IT'S TWO CAR GARAGE FOR THIS, THEY ADD AN A D U IF ADD RESIDENCES, COULD I GUESS, STAFF EXPLAIN WHAT'S THE PHILOSOPHY FOR ADDING MORE UNITS AND TAKING MORE, UH, PARKING IN THE, IN THE SAME BREATH? HOW DOES THAT WORK? IT'S, UH, WELL, UH, AT PRESENT, UM, PURSUANT TO AB 2097, THE CITY CANNOT HAVE A MINIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENT, UH, FOR RESIDENTIAL WITHIN HALF A MILE OF TRANSIT. SO, UH, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO REGULATE A MINIMUM NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES PER UNIT OR, UM, FOR THE PROJECT AS A WHOLE. SO I THINK THAT THE, THE PROJECT ANTICIPATES, UM, THAT OVER TIME, UM, THE RELIANCE ON VEHICLES AS, AS OTHER AREAS OF DOWNTOWN DEVELOP IS ACROSS THE STREET DEVELOPS AND SUCH, AND [03:40:01] ACCESS, ESPECIALLY I THINK TO PROBABLY DAILY LIVING NEEDS. MM-HMM. , UM, MARKETS AND SO FORTH EVOLVE THAT THERE WOULD BE, UH, DECREASED RELIANCE ON THE AUTOMOBILE, AND SO THERE WOULD BE LESS DEMAND FOR PARKING OVER TIME. THANKS. I KIND OF WANTED TO HEAR YOU SAY EXACTLY BOTH OF THOSE THINGS. NO REGULATION AND IT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING. SO APPRECIATE THE COLLABORATION. THANK YOU. THEN THE, UM, OTHER OTHER QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH INTEGRATING WITH OUR D STREET, UM, CITY PROJECT. I KNOW P A C WAS PUSHING REALLY HARD FOR THE WONDERFUL IMPROVEMENTS RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE DEVELOPMENT TO EXTEND ALL THE WAY TO D STREET. UM, WHO'S GONNA BUILD FIRST? WHAT IS THE SCHEDULE FOR CONSTRUCTION ON YOUR PROJECT, OR WHAT IS THE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE FOR THE CITY'S PROJECT AND HOW WILL THEY GET BROUGHT TOGETHER? SO IT, IT ALL HAPPENS. WELL, THIS, THIS PROJECT, UH, FOLLOWING THIS EVENING SHOULD, UH, SHOULD THE COUNCIL CHOOSE TO APPROVE THIS PROJECT, IT WOULD NEED TO THEN PURSUE DEVELOPMENT OF ITS FINAL PLAN AS WELL AS GO THROUGH AN ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN PROCESS. RIGHT. UM, AND COME FORWARD TO PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW. I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT WOULD BE A MINIMUM ONE YEAR. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S FAIR. ONE YEAR TO 18 MONTHS. WE DO KNOW THAT ACROSS THE STREET, THE HAYSTACK PROJECT, UH, HAS REQUESTED EXTENSIONS ON ITS ENTITLEMENTS, AND SO THOSE ENTITLEMENTS HAVE BEEN EXTENDED. UH, IT HAS SIGNALED THAT IT WOULD BE MAKING REVISIONS TO THE PROJECT, UM, AND, UH, TO RESPOND TO CONSTRUCTION COSTS AND MATERIAL COSTS AND SO FORTH. SO WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A TIMELINE ON, ON DEVELOPMENT OF HAYSTACK ACROSS THE STREET. SO I THINK IT'S, IT'S RIGHT. UNFORTUNATELY, WE'D HAVE TO SAY IT'S UNKNOWN. I THINK THE CITY'S GONNA GET STUCK WITH THE PIECE FROM HERE, FROM COPELAND STREET TO LAKEVILLE ON WHAT WE, ARE WE CALLING THIS THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE STREET SOUTH? WHATEVER IT'S, YES, IT'S OKAY. YEAH. WELL, ON YOUR SIDE OF THE STREET, RIGHT, CONTINUING TO LAKEVILLE, WILL THAT BE PART OF THE CITY'S D STREET PROJECT, OR WILL WE NOT INCLUDE THAT IN THE CITY'S D STREET PROJECT? RIGHT. IS IS, UH, JEFF STUTZMAN STILL IN THE PROJECT, OR, UH, HERE WE GO. YEAH, YEAH, WE'VE GOT JEFF THERE. HELLO. OH, YOU GOT IT, JEFF, GO AHEAD. I, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY THE, THE D STREET PROJECT IS OBVIOUSLY STILL IN, IN CONCEPTION RIGHT NOW OF, OF WHAT IT IS. I THINK RIGHT NOW WE'RE REALLY, WE'RE LOOKING KIND OF, UM, WEST OF THE BRIDGE TO KIND OF GOING FROM FIRST STREET UP TO SUNNY SLOPE OR THE DAVIDON PROJECT. SO RIGHT NOW IT WASN'T NECESSARILY GOING OVER THE BRIDGE AT THIS POINT. OKAY, THEN THANK YOU. THAT'S VERY CLEAR. AND, AND I, I WANT TO HAVE THAT ABILITY TO GIVE FEEDBACK, THE FEEDBACK ON WHAT THEIR COMMENTS AND DESIRES WERE. UM, AND ONLY, THE ONLY NOTE I HAD WAS, UM, I'M HAPPY THAT WE LISTED OUT THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, LINKAGE AFFORDABILITY HOUSING, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, UM, HOUSING IS SO MUCH MORE IMPACTFUL FOR HOUSING THAN COMMERCIAL IS FOR HOUSING. SO, UM, IT, IT'S NICE TO HAVE THAT DATA IN THE REPORTS SO WE COULD SEE, UH, COUNCIL VICE MAYOR CATER THOMPSON. WELL, UM, MY BIG ISSUE, WE KNOW IT'S, UH, THE QUESTION IS PROBABLY TO STAFF. I HAVE A PROBLEM FROM THE D STREET BRIDGE TO LAKEVILLE UNDER GROUNDING JUST THE UTILITY LINES IN FRONT OF THE PROJECT WHEN WE NEED TO, THE COUNCIL NEEDS TO MAKE A COMMITMENT TO, TO FINANCE THE REST OF IT, UH, BECAUSE IT'S IRRESPONSIBLE TO DO HALF A STREET. THIS IS A MAJOR CORRIDOR, AND I THINK THAT IT'S GONNA BE PROBLEMATIC, AND I WANNA KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO FINANCE THAT SO WE CAN LOOK INTO THE FUTURE. BUT I'M NOT GONNA WAIT 20 YEARS OR 10 YEARS FOR THIS TO HAPPEN BECAUSE WE WAIT THAT AMOUNT OF TIME. WE'RE GONNA HAVE NOTHING BUT SCREAMING PEOPLE IN THIS TOWN BECAUSE OF TRAFFIC CONGESTION. RIGHT NOW, IF YOU'RE DRIVING ON D STREET, YOU, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE A RIGHT HAND TURN, THERE'S REALLY NOT TWO LANES. I MEAN, IT'S KIND OF A MISHMASH. AND I JUST THINK FOR SAFETY AND FOR LOOKING INTO THE FUTURE, WE NEED TO BE PROACTIVE TODAY AND MAKE, FIND OUT WHAT THE COST IS. 'CAUSE IS IT, DOES PG E GIVE A DISCOUNT IF YOU'RE DOING PART OF IT, YOU KNOW, TO UNDERGROUND THE ENTIRE AREA. AND I DO THINK IT'S IRRESPONSIBLE NOT TO RE NOT TO LOOK AT THIS AREA AND ACTUALLY MAKE SOME DETERMINATIONS OF WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT HAPPENS, YOU KNOW, RIVERFRONT GETS, YOU KNOW, COMPLETED AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, WELL, IT'S NOT COMPLETED, BUT, YOU KNOW, HOUSING IS THERE. NOW WE'RE HAVING TO DEAL WITH CA FIELD RETROFITTING. WE'RE ALWAYS RETROFITTING TRANSPORTATION. AND I THINK IT'S TIME THAT THE CITY GET IN FRONT OF IT INSTEAD OF ALLOWING DEVELOPMENT [03:45:01] TO DETERMINE, UM, OUR TRANSPORTATION. AND THAT IS NOT TO, YOU KNOW, THIS PROJECT, I UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU STOP, BUT THIS IS A DISCUSSION THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE, UM, BECAUSE I CAN SEE THE NIGHTMARE THAT IS GONNA BE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A HALF A BLOCK THAT HAS BEAUTIFUL BIKE AND PEDESTRIANS, AND THEN YOU END UP IN NOWHERE LAND. AND THEN YOU HAVE THE, THAT CORNER PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT I BELIEVE DID SMART PIE, THAT CORNER PIECE OF PROPERTY. AND WE NEED TO WORK WITH SMART ON THIS. THAT WHOLE INTERSECTION. UH, BIG PET PEEVE I HAVE IS THE INTERSECTIONS. WERE NOT WIDENED WHEN, UM, THE SMART TRAIN WAS COMING IN. SO NOW WE'RE HAVING TO RETROFIT TO MAKE IT, UM, SAFER FOR BIKES, PEDESTRIANS, CARS AND TRUCKS. AND WE JUST TALKED ABOUT, UM, OVER ON, UH, THE, THE PROJECT BY THE, UM, EAST SIDE RAIL STATION AND THE TRANSIT COMMITTEE MEETING THE OTHER DAY. I HAPPENED TO GO TO, THEY ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO WIDEN THE RAIL CROSSING ON CORONA. AND SO, I MEAN, I JUST THINK WE REALLY NEED TO WORK THIS OUT. AND I THINK WE NEED, IT'S, IT'S A VALUE ISSUE AND I, I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THE PUBLIC, I DON'T THINK THE PUBLIC WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF WE AREN'T LOOKING FORWARD. THANK YOU. VICE MAYOR, UH, BRIAN O DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEV DEVELOPMENT. UM, I COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE. UM, I THINK IN A, IN A PERFECT WORLD, UM, WE HAVE A, UH, SET OF PLANS AND POLICIES IN PLACE THAT, UM, FULLY REALIZES REDEVELOPMENT OF THE ENTIRE STRETCH, UM, UM, ALONG D STREET. AND SO AS NEW PROJECTS COME THROUGH, HOPEFULLY IT'S, I DON'T ANTICIPATE IT TAKING 20 YEARS. UM, WE WOULD SEE THAT PROJECT BY PROJECT AND SORT OF HAVE THAT FULL CONTINUITY. SHORT OF THAT, UM, AS WE, UM, IDENTIFIED IN, UM, OUR COMMENTS TO CITY COUNCIL EARLIER THIS AFTERNOON, UM, THERE IS A PROGRAM THAT PG AND E, UM, HAS, UH, RULE 20. I KNOW JEFF, OUR CITY ENGINEERS ALSO, UM, WITH US, AND HE CAN FILL IN, UM, SOME OF THE GAPS HERE. BUT ESSENTIALLY THERE'S A PROGRAM THAT, UH, LOCAL JURISDICTIONS CAN WORK WITH PG AND E, UM, TO DO THAT CONVERSION FROM OVERHEAD TO UNDERGROUND, UM, OF BOTH OUR TRANSMISSION LINES, UM, AND DIFFERENT UTILITIES. UM, AND TO YOUR POINT, IT'S, THERE'S A HIGH COST. UM, WE GOT SOME PRELIMINARY NUMBERS, UH, FROM PG AND E EARLIER THIS MORNING. UM, AND THERE'S A WIDESPREAD, UM, UM, UH, THERE'S A WIDESPREAD TO THAT PRICE TAG. UM, AND SO IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN ABSOLUTELY LOOK AT. UM, THE FINANCIAL FEASIBILITY, UH, AGAIN, WE NOTED, UH, BODEGA AVENUE AS A PLACE THAT WE'VE, UM, HAD SUCCESS IN CONVERTING FROM OVERHEAD TO UNDERGROUND. AND SO WE HAVE SOMETHING TO START WITH, UM, FOR US TO TAKE A LOOK AT. UM, BUT DO JUST, UM, A HUNDRED PERCENT AGREE WITH YOU THAT, UM, THAT WOULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, A REALLY GREAT ASSET AND SOMETHING THAT WE'D LIKE TO PRIORITIZE ALONG THIS STRETCH. AND HOW DO WE GET THIS ON THE, THE C P I AND WHAT DOES THE COUNCIL HAVE TO DO TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS A PRIORITY? UH, YOU'RE DOING JUST THAT, UM, THIS EVENING? UM, RAISING THE ISSUE, UM, PROVIDING THE COMMENTS. UM, SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TAKE BACK AS A CITY TEAM, UM, AND INCORPORATE IN OUR BUDGETING AND PLANNING. I CAN SEE MYSELF ON THAT CORNER LOT, UM, THERE, SMART BOT WITH A SIGN, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, PROTESTING. AS I SIT UP HERE, I'M GONNA BE OUT PROTESTING, UM, WHAT THE CITY NEEDS TO DO. AND I FEEL THAT STRONG ABOUT, UM, NOT GETTING AHEAD OF TRANSPORTATION. AND THIS IS A MAJOR ROADWAY. AND I, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HEAR NUMBERS. AND WHEN, I MEAN, I DON'T SEE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, YOU KNOW, ON THE SOUTH SIDE, WHO'S GONNA BE DEVELOPING THERE. I MEAN, I SEE THE RAIL SPURS THERE, AND THEN I SEE THE CORNER LOT, AND SO I'M NOT SEEING DEVELOPMENT. SO HOW ARE WE GOING TO, I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO EAT THIS OR EITHER GET REIMBURSED WHEN THE OTHER AREA IS DEVELOPED. AND I JUST WANNA SAY, WHEN I WAS ON THE COUNCIL LAST TIME, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS WHOLE AREA BEING DEVELOPED 25 YEARS LATER. I'M REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THIS HAPPENING, BUT D STREET IS A REAL ISSUE. I WILL, I WOULD JUST ADD, IF IT'S A PRIORITY OF THE COUNCIL, UM, IT'S SOMETHING I WOULD RECOMMEND DECOUPLING WITH THE PROJECT AT HAND, UH, BUT SOMETHING WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO DIVE INTO. I PLAN ON DECOUPLING IT ONLY BECAUSE I THINK THIS PROJECT IS IMPORTANT. OKAY. BUT I WILL STAND ON A CORNER PROTESTING JUST TO OKAY. I BELIEVE IT. BE CLEAR. UH, WELL, THERE YOU GO. UM, SO, UH, WITH [03:50:01] THAT, LET'S GO TO, UM, TO, UH, COUNCILMAN POSTER. KAY. UM, JANICE, I DON'T, DAVE GLASS ISN'T HERE ANYMORE TO COME TALK YOU DOWN. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE HERE WILL DO THAT. YOU KNOW, I I, I DID NOT STOP THAT TRACTOR , BUT DEER CREEK ENDED UP WITH TWO BRIDGES AND THE CREEK WAS RECREATED. THAT WAS JUST GONNA BE STRAIGHT ASPHALT. SO I WILL PROTEST AND BE HAPPY TO BE SLAMMED IN THE FRONT PAGE OF THE PAPER. OKAY. SO I THINK WE'LL MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT. I HAVE TWO CARDS HERE. CAN I ASK THE CLERK WHAT, UH, CARDS CAME IN PRIOR? YES. WE RECEIVED THREE PUBLIC COMMENTS TO THE ITEM, AND THEY ARE ONLINE WITH THE AGENDA. I APPRECIATE THAT. AND, UH, LET'S READ A ZOOM AUDIENCE AND, UH, AS A REMINDER, WE'LL DO THE IN-HOUSE, UH, COMMENTERS. FIRST. THANK YOU MAYOR. UH, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM. UH, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND IN ZOOM AND YOU'LL BE CALLED ON INTERN. UM, I NEED TO BRING UP MY PARTICIPANTS. WE CURRENTLY HAVE ONE HAND RAISED, UM, SO WE CAN GO TO THE IN-HOUSE MEMBERS AND THEN WE WILL GO TO THE ZOOM MEMBERS AND WITH, UH, JUST TWO CARDS IN-HOUSE AND ONE ONLINE. WE'LL GO TO THREE MINUTES. UH, UH, SPEAKER, FIRST SPEAKER IS DAVE ALDEN, SECOND SPEAKER, ADAM EY, HIDDEN UNDER A POST, A GOOD PLACE FOR A BUTTON. THANK YOU. NO PROJECT IS PERFECT. UM, I'VE BEEN TALKING TO THIS APPLICANT NOW SINCE THEY FIRST BROUGHT, BROUGHT FORWARD, AND I'LL CONTINUE TO BRING UP ISSUES WITH THEM. I, I'M REALLY CONCERNED THE LANES ARE GONNA BE SOMEWHAT STERILE ON A COLD, RAINY DAY, AND THAT, THAT BOTHERS ME. AND PERHAPS AFTER THE G P A C MEETING ON THURSDAY, I'M GONNA HAVE, UH, SEA LEVEL RISE ISSUES THAT I'M NOT SURE OF TODAY. HOWEVER, THIS IS A GREAT PROJECT. IT'S A MARVELOUS LOCATION. IT'S WALKABLE TO A SMART STATION, TO THE BUS DEPOT, UH, BUS TRANSIT MALL. WE CALL IT. IT MAY BE A PLACE WHERE THERE'S GONNA BE ENOUGH PEDESTRIAN AND BIKE ACTIVITY TO TRULY SUPPORT THE GROUND FLOOR RETAIL AS WE SEEM TO BE VERY FOCUSED ON HOPING, HOPING HAPPEN SOMEDAY. EVEN MORE IMPORTANTLY, I DON'T KNOW WHO OF YOU HAVE READ THE HOUSING FEASIBILITY OR AFFORDABILITY REPORT THAT WAS PROVIDED TO THE GPAC A MONTH AGO THAT BASICALLY SAYS THERE ARE NO MARKET RATE PROJECTS EXCEPT UNDER EXTRAORDINARY CONDITIONS THAT CAN BE AFFORDABLE IN THIS, OR THAT CAN BE BUILT FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE IN THIS MARKET. AND YET HERE WE ARE LOOKING AT ONE BEING PROPOSED TO US AND THE DEVELOPER, I'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH THEM, SAYS THEY CAN MAKE THIS PROJECT WORK. THIS IS A REMARKABLE OPPORTUNITY TO COME IN FRONT, IN FRONT OF US. WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO PUSH IT AHEAD THIS EVENING. KEEP PUSHING IT AHEAD AND MAKE THIS THING HAPPEN. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION. THANK YOU. ADAM GUERNSEY IS OUR LAST CARD IN-HOUSE. UH, GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. UH, MY NAME'S ADAM SEY. I'M HERE REPRESENTING SHAMROCK AND BALKAN TONIGHT. UM, SHAMROCKS READY MIX FACILITY HAS BEEN AT THE HOPPER STREET LOCATION SINCE 1945. UM, AND AS WE'VE SEEN THROUGHOUT HISTORY, WHEN DEVELOPMENT COMES INTO INDUSTRIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, THE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENTS ALWAYS LOSE. AND THAT'S TRUE NO MATTER IF THE DEVELOPMENT IS OPERATING WITHIN ALL OF ITS APPLICABLE REGULATORY PARAMETERS. AND SO WHEN THIS PROJECT CAME TO SHAMROCKS ATTENTION, WE HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT, UH, LAND USE COMPATIBILITY, UM, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT AND NEXT DOOR TO OUR PROPERTY. UM, BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANNOUNCE AND REPORT THAT THROUGH A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH, UH, THE DEVELOPER AND WITH CITY STAFF, WE DID REACH A RESOLUTION WITH THE AMENDMENTS TO CONDITIONS 14 AND 15 TO PROVIDE FOR AN EASEMENT WHEREBY THE LANDOWNERS WILL ACCEPT THE IMPACTS OF OUR INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT. AND, UM, WE THINK THAT THIS IS GONNA BE A GOOD SOLUTION THAT WILL ALLOW SHAMROCKS FACILITY TO STAY IN OPERATION FOR THE NEXT 75 YEARS. AND HOPEFULLY THE CITY, UM, UH, WILL USE THE CONDITION LANGUAGE, UH, IN CONDITIONS 14 AND 15 AS A MODEL FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY. UM, I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER SCH RIBS HAD MENTIONED THE SCANNELL [03:55:01] DEVELOPMENT. UM, WE THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD LIKE STAFF AND THE CITY COUNCIL TO KEEP IN MIND AS NEW PROJECTS COME FORWARD, JUST TO ENSURE THAT THERE IS SOME INDUSTRIAL, UH, DEVELOPMENT LEFT IN THE CITY. SO, UM, AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK THE DEVELOPER. THEY'VE BEEN VERY, UH, ACCOMMODATING, EASY TO TALK TO, THANKS STAFF. UH, AND WE APPRECIATE IT. AND SHAMROCK DOES SUPPORT THIS PROJECT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND OVER TO OUR ZOOM AUDIENCE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS NATHAN SPINDEL. UH, YOU MAY UNMUTE AND BEGIN YOUR COMMENTS. MY NAME IS NATHAN SPINEL AND I LIVE IN WEST PETALUMA. I THINK THE PROPOSED OYSTER COVID DEVELOPMENT IS A GREAT PROJECT FOR PETALUMA AND I STRONGLY SUPPORT IT. WE NEED MORE HOMES IN PETALUMA, AND THIS IS A GREAT LOCATION TO BUILD IN CLOSE WALKING DISTANCE TO DOWNTOWN AND TRANSIT. I ESPECIALLY LIKE THAT THIS PROJECT WILL SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVE PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE INFRASTRUCTURE ON EAST D STREET. MY FAMILY FREQUENTLY WALKS, DRIVES, AND RIDE BIKES ON THAT STRETCH OF D STREET. THAT CORRIDOR DOESN'T FEEL AT ALL SAFE GIVEN ITS DESIGN AND SPEED. I APPRECIATE THAT THE DEVELOPER WILL BE GIVING THEIR OWN LAND TO THE PUBLIC TO IMPROVE THE PEDESTRIAN AND BIKE NETWORK HERE. I'M ALSO HAPPY TO SEE THAT DEVELOPER IS COMMITTED TO BUILDING STREET FRONT COMMERCIAL SPACES AND A WELL-DESIGNED PUBLIC RIVER TRAIL. THERE'S SO MUCH PUBLIC BENEFIT AND POTENTIAL IN THIS PROJECT. I'D BE HAPPY TO SEE IT BUILT IN OUR TOWN. THANK YOU. AND MAYOR, THAT IS THE LAST HAND RAISED, SO, UM, THAT'S ALL. EVERYBODY ON ZOOM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, VICE MAYOR. I JUST HAVE A COUPLE COMMENTS. UM, AS FAR AS THE RETAIL, I DON'T THINK WE CAN REALLY COMPARE RETAIL AND OTHER AREAS. AND ESPECIALLY THE ONE ON WASHINGTON STREET, IT WAS NEVER SUCCESSFUL. BUT THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS I THINK WHY IT WASN'T SUCCESSFUL WHERE THIS, I BELIEVE THE WAY THE STREETSCAPE IS, IS GONNA BE WIDER. IT'S GONNA BE MORE VISIBLE, AND IT'S GONNA BE AS THOUGH YOU, YOU CAN REALLY WALK TO IT WHERE THE OTHER OTHER AREA, YOU JUST HAVE TO KIND OF WALK UP TO IT AND IT'S, IT'S CUMBERSOME. UM, AND SO I, I'D HATE TO THROW OUT, UM, YOU KNOW, RETAIL BELOW. UM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO, TO KEEP IT FOR ANY PROJECT, BUT REALLY LOOK AT THE LOCATION. I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'VE STUMBLED BEFORE. UM, I, I REALLY APPRECIATE BALKIN FOR WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPER. THAT IS FANTASTIC. UM, I THINK I HAD ANOTHER COMMENT, UM, BUT IT'S PROBABLY NOT THAT IMPORTANT IF I CAN'T THINK OF IT OR I CAN'T DON'T, I DON'T REALLY SEE IT IN MY NOTES, BUT I THINK IT'S A REALLY GREAT PROJECT FOR PETALUMA AS THE LAST, UM, SPEAKER, YOU KNOW, SAID COUNCIL MEMBER OSA CAME. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I ALSO THINK THIS IS A, A REALLY GOOD PROJECT. I THINK, UH, I'LL GO ON RECORD AS WELL AS SAYING THAT, UH, I THINK, UH, PART OF WHAT MANY OF US WERE ELECTED TO DO WAS TO NUDGE PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR CARS AND, UH, BOTH IN TRAFFIC AND IN GARAGES. UM, SO, UH, I, UH, I'M, I'M HOPEFUL THAT THIS WILL, UH, SPUR SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS, UH, THAT UH, COUNCIL MEMBER CATER THOMPSON AND OTHERS HAVE, HAVE VOICED A WANT FOR THAT. I THINK THERE'S AT LEAST A CHANCE OF THAT. THANKS, COUNCIL MEMBER HEALY. THANK YOU. SO I AGREE WITH, UM, THE PREVIOUS COMMENTS. UM, AND WHAT'S MOST EXCITING ABOUT THIS IS THAT, UH, AS MR. ALDEN INDICATED, THERE'S AN INDICATION THIS IS ACTUALLY FINANCIALLY VIABLE. UM, YOU KNOW, WE WERE ALL EXCITED WHEN PACIFICA GOT ITS APPROVALS AND THEN THEY JUST WENT AWAY 'CAUSE THEIR PROJECT WAS $20 MILLION OVER BUDGET. UM, SO, UM, EXCITED TO APPROVE THIS TONIGHT. REALLY EXCITED TO SEE IT ACTUALLY BREAK GROUND. AND WITH THAT I'LL MOVE THE THREE RESOLUTIONS AND INTRODUCE THE ORDINANCE. THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER. NOW, UM, I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION AND I ALSO WANNA SAY A HUGE COMPLIMENT TO THE PROJECT. UM, FOR ALL THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, I THINK THAT'S A BIG PLUS AND A, A WAVE OF THE FUTURE FOR DEVELOPMENT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, UM, FROM HEALY AND NOW, AND COUNCIL MEMBER SHOULD OKAY. JUST, UH, ONE LITTLE COMMENT, I'LL, I'LL ALL VERY POSITIVE. I AGREE WITH EVERYONE UP HERE, BUT AS WAS MENTIONED BY THE COUNCILMAN NOW, UM, TR TRUCK TRAFFIC IN AND OUT FOR THE SAFETY OF THE CHILDREN THAT ARE GONNA BE LIVING ON THIS SITE TO ACTUALLY FIGURE OUT A WAY OF MINIMIZING THE TRUCK TRAFFIC COMING IN AT DELIVERY TRUCKS SO THAT THERE'S A SPOT NEAR THE FRONT. THEY COULD STOP DELIVER SOMETHING FOR A PICKUP ZONE OF SOME SORT, STORAGE BOXES, WHATEVER INCLUDED. THEY CAN GET IN AND OUT WITH MINIMUM TRAFFIC ONSITE. 'CAUSE THERE'S [04:00:01] GONNA BE A LOT OF CHILDREN AND BICYCLISTS AND WALKERS MOVING DOWN THESE ALLEYS. AND WE WANNA MINIMIZE ANY POTENTIAL OF THAT. SO, SO DELIVERY TRUCKS ARE GONNA BE EXPANDING. I EXPECT DOUBLING IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS. EXPECT TWICE OR THREE TIMES THE NUMBER OF DELIVERY TRUCKS TO BE DOING THIS TYPE OF WORK EXPANSION. SO WE NEED, WE NEED TO, UH, PROTECT OURSELVES FROM AMAZON. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. THEY'LL BE MICROT TRANSIT COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. UM, SO, UM, I APPRECIATE A LOT ABOUT THIS PROJECT. UM, WHAT I THINK I APPRECIATE MOST IS THE, THE NOT, NOT OVER PARKING IT. UM, AND THE ASSUMPTION THAT WE'RE CATERING TO A DIFFERENT CROWD OF PEOPLE THAN WE TYPICALLY HAVE IN PETALUMA. SO, UM, IT'S REALLY THE, IT'S THE LIFESTYLE THAT WE WANT TO PROMOTE AROUND OUR TRAIN STATION. SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU FOR, UM, THE VISION OF, OF THAT BECAUSE IT'S REALLY EASY TO GET STUCK IN THAT. AND I KNOW WE WERE JUST IN THE, UM, PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE ADVISORY COMMITTEE TALKING ABOUT THE LL PROJECT AND THERE WAS SO MANY TIMES THAT I WAS JUST THINKING LIKE, WE'RE NOT BUILDING FOR CARS RIGHT HERE. UM, AND SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU FOR TAKING THAT SERIOUSLY. UM, IN TERMS OF THE ARCHITECTURE AESTHETIC, UM, I'M NOT, I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN THIS. I WOULD, UH, TREND AWAY FROM MORE TRADITIONAL STUFF AND MAKE THIS FEEL DIFFERENT. UM, I ALSO REALLY APPRECIATE THAT WE'RE, UM, THE TYPE OF HOUSING THAT WE'RE PROVIDING HERE. I THINK IT'S, UH, GREATLY NEEDED IN PETALUMA. SO I'M, I'M EXCITED TO SEE THIS COME. UM, I ALSO JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE, UM, TO WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER CATER THOMPSON TALKED ABOUT, UM, IN THE D STREET. UH, I DON'T THINK KNOWING THAT SMART OWNS THAT AND THAT WE'RE, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA SEE THAT LAST LITTLE STRETCH ACTUALLY GET UNDERGROUNDED UNLESS WE TAKE THE LEAD ON IT. UM, I THINK ON THE OTHER SIDE THERE'S DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GONNA FUND IT, BUT NOT THIS LAST STRETCH. THERE'S ACTUALLY THREE POLES THAT ARE THERE. AND I'D LOVE TO SEE, WE'VE GOT A YEAR, UM, BEFORE WE'RE GONNA SEE THIS BREAK GROUND. I'D LOVE TO SEE US TRY AND, UM, MAKE THAT HAPPEN BECAUSE, UM, THERE'S LIKE NOTHING WORSE THAN RIDING YOUR BIKE AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN HAVING TO GET THROWN OUT INTO TRAFFIC. SO, UM, IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT. AND UM, I KNOW I'M CHANNELING THE ENTIRE PBAC RIGHT NOW WHEN I SAY THAT. UM, WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THE CANNELL PROJECT AND, UM, ONE OF THE HARDEST THINGS WAS KEEPING IT FOCUSED ON THE PROJECT WHEN WE KNOW HOW BAD HOPPER STREET IS. AND WE REALLY NEED TO, UM, YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST DOING A LITTLE BIT OF BACK OF THE ENVELOPE BETWEEN RIVERFRONT AND SCANNELL. THERE'S LIKE PROBABLY GONNA BE ABOUT 800 UNITS OF HOUSING THERE. IT'S GONNA BE COMING DOWN HOPPER STREET. WE'VE GOT OYSTER COVE NOW HAYSTACK AND THE SMART PROJECT. THAT COULD BE ANOTHER 700. WE'RE TALKING MAYBE 1500 UNITS, ROUGHLY FIVE TO SIX, OR MAYBE EVEN 7% OF PETALUMA'S ENTIRE HOUSING STOCK IN THESE PARCELS. AND WE NEED TO BE THINKING, AND WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE DRIVING. IF EVERYBODY THERE DRIVES THE WAY THAT THE AVERAGE PETALUMA DOES TODAY, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT MORE TRAFFIC. SO WE NEED TO BE DESIGNING FOR A DIFFERENT LIFESTYLE. AND THAT MEANS THAT, UM, WE NEED TO GET HOPPER STREET INTO OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. WE NEED TO UNDERGROUND THESE UTILITY POLES, THE LAST THREE UTILITY POLES ON D STREET, UM, SO THAT WE CAN REALLY, UM, CREATE THE LIFESTYLE AND PROMOTE THE, THE MODES OF, UM, TRANSPORTATION THAT WE WANNA SEE. AND, UM, WITH THAT, I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SUPPORT THIS. THANK YOU. UM, I WOULD SUPPORT THAT IDEA, UM, OF ADDING TO THE, UM, COMMUNITY TO THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT AGREEMENT. UH, I THINK THE CITY'S COMPONENT OF UNDERGROUNDING, THAT SIDE TO LAKEVILLE, UM, PERHAPS EVEN THE CURB IMPROVEMENT, EXPLORING THAT IDEA AS WE GET TO THE NEXT STEP OF THEIR PROJECT. BUT THIS PROJECT IS JUST HUGELY BENEFICIAL TO THE CITY. AND, UH, I'M, UH, REALLY HAPPY THAT IT'S GOTTEN ALL THE WAY HERE IN FRONT OF COUNCIL TONIGHT. SO, UH, WITH THAT, UH, WE HAVE A MOTION, WE HAVE A SECOND. MAY WE HAVE A ROLL CALL? VOTE BARNACLE. AYE. KIDDER THOMPSON? YES. HEALY? YES. NOW YES. POST. OKAY. YES. SHRIVES? YES. YES. AND MCDONALD? YES. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO EVERYBODY WHO STAYED TO OUR VERY END, UH, APPRECIATE STAFF'S, UH, PRESENTATION TONIGHT. AND, UM, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.