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THIS IS THE REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING OF THE PETALUMA TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
AND, UM, I WILL CALL ROLL CALL EWING.
[GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT]
UH, AND WE HAVE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.I'M WENDY JACOBS, CHAIR OF RELIEF, AND I'M HERE TO MAKE A QUICK BRIEFING ON A COUPLE OF RELIEF ACTIVITIES I THOUGHT YOU WOULD BE INTERESTED IN AND WANTED YOU TO KNOW ABOUT.
UM, FIRST WE WILL BE FINISHING UP OUR TREE PLANTING UNDER THE URBAN FOREST MANAGEMENT GRANT ON SATURDAY WITH ME, WALK PARK, UH, 50 SOME TREES.
I USED TO KNOW THESE BY MEMORY, BUT I'M LOSING IT NOW, BUT IT'S OVER 50 TREES AND THE PARK WILL BE BEAUTIFUL.
WE ARE ALSO PLANTING EWOK SCHOOL, WHICH IS ADJACENT TO THE PARK, AND THAT WILL BE UNDER DAILY ACTS, LAND RESILIENCE PARTNERSHIP.
SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM ON THAT.
AND THAT WILL TAKE OUR TOTAL TREE COUNT FOR THAT AREA UP IN THE HIGH SEVENTIES, SOMETHING LIKE 77.
THIS WAS A PRESENTATION THAT YOU ALL SAW TWO MONTHS AGO, UM, WHEN CAROLYN SHOWED THE SLIDE DECK ON THE URBAN FOREST MANAGEMENT GRANT.
SO THAT WILL CONCLUDE OUR OFFICIAL OBLIGATIONS UNDER THAT GRANT WITH PARTNERING WITH THE CITY, AND WE WILL BE UNDER BUDGET.
THE OTHER ITEM I WANTED TO MENTION IS THAT RELIEF, AS HOWARD KNOWS, UM, AND CINDY KNOWS, IS NOW OPENING A STUDY OF EXPANDING OUR SPECIES PALETTE.
WE ARE FINDING IT NECESSARY AS WE EXPAND AND, UM, DIVERSIFY INTO DOING DIFFERENT KINDS OF SITES.
EXAMPLE, STREET TREES, RESIDENCES, THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BROADEN OUR SPECIES PALETTE FROM THE LOCAL NATIVE SPECIES THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH IN THE LARGER SPACES TO, UH, ACCOMMODATE SOME REQUESTS FOR MORE DIVERSITY ON THE PART OF OUR GRAND TOURS AND TO ALLOW FOR CERTAIN CHARACTERISTICS AS YOU ALL ARE WELL AWARE WITH STREET TREES THAT ARE NECESSARY.
SO WE WOULD LIKE TO, UM, EXPAND OUR PELLET AND WE ARE KICKING THAT OFF WITH A SURVEY THAT WE'LL BE GOING OUT TO, UM, TODAY OR TOMORROW TO OUR VOLUNTEER TREE EXPERTS.
AND WE WILL BE SENDING THAT SURVEY TO ALL OF YOU AS WELL AS OUR ARBORISTS, OUR EXTENSION AGENT, URBAN FORESTERS, UM, OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS, AND THE REST OF THE VOLUNTEERS THAT WORK WITH US THAT KNOW A GREAT DEAL ABOUT TREE SPECIES.
WE WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF YOU WOULD COMPLETE IT.
AND WE HOPE TO BE WRAPPING UP OUR STUDY OF ADDITIONAL SPECIES APPROXIMATELY JANUARY AND COME BACK TO YOU FOR YOUR INFORMATION TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT WE WILL BE ADDING AND TO MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT THE PETALUMA STREET TREE LIST THAT COME OUT OF OUR STUDY.
IN PARTICULAR, WE ARE LOOKING AT A GROUP CALLED NEAR NATIVES, WHICH ARE SPECIES THAT DO PROVIDE SOME BIODIVERSITY BENEFIT BECAUSE THEY ARE GENERALLY FROM THE NORTH AMERICAN CONTINENT OR PERHAPS NORTHERN MEXICO, ADAPTABLE AND DELIVER THE KIND OF CHARACTERISTICS WE LOOK FOR, FOR INSTANCE, DROUGHT TOLERANCE.
AND YET THEY DO MANAGE TO SUPPORT SOME OF THE LOCAL SPECIES.
THEY WILL NOT BE AS RICH IN BIODIVERSITY AS OUR LOCAL NATIVES, BUT WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS A COMPROMISE THAT EVERYONE IN RELIEF CAN BE ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT.
ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT WITH THAT? I, ANY STAFF COMMENT? ALL RIGHT.
[PRESENTATIONS]
WE HAVE A PRESENTATION THEN FROM SIX PARKS TO PRE TREE PLANTINGS FROM RELIEF.HELLO, MY NAME'S CAROLYN LARA, AND I'M WITH RELIEF PETALUMA, AND I'M HERE TO PRESENT, UM, RELEASE NEXT PROPOSED PROJECTS IN THE PARKS.
UM, THE NAME OF IT IS SIX PARKS TWO, AND, UM, IT IS, UH, A $62,000
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GRANT FUNDED BY CAL FIRE AND CALIFORNIA RELIEF AND CALIFORNIA CLIMATE INVESTMENTS, UM, FOR $62,000 FOR FIVE PARKS AND FOUR SCHOOLS.THE PROPOSED PARKS ARE GRANT, ANNA'S MEADOW, LAER TURNBRIDGE, AND FOX HOLLOW, AND THEY'LL BE A TOTAL OF 95 TREES PLANTED.
THESE ARE THE TREE SPECIES THAT WE HAVE, UM, SELECTED.
WHITE ALDER, CALIFORNIA, BUCKEYE COAST REDWOOD NORTHERN CALIFORNIA, BLACK WALNUT, VALLEY OAKS, BLACK OAKS COAST, LIVE OAKS, BLUE OAKS, AND WESTERN SYCAMORE FOR A TOTAL OF 95 TREES.
UM, THESE ARE PARTNERS THAT WE'LL BE WORKING WITH, UM, OF COURSE, THE CITY OF PETALUMA REBUILDING TOGETHER AND PETALUMA PEOPLE SERVICES CENTER.
WE HAVE ALREADY COMPLETED OUR OUTREACH.
SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE, UM, LET RESIDENTS KNOW WITH SANDWICH SIGNS IN THE PARKS THAT, UM, TREES WOULD BE COMING SOON AND THAT WE WOULD BE HAVING A COMMUNITY ZOOM TO DISCUSS, UH, WHAT WILL WHAT WOULD BE HAPPENING.
UM, WE TABLED AT EACH PARK AND WE DID FLYER TO ALL THE HOUSES, UM, AROUND THE PARKS AND ALSO IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND WE HAD OUR ZOOM, UM, WHICH WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL.
WE HAD, UM, ACTUALLY CALIFORNIA RELIEF SHOWED UP ON THE CALL AND, UM, WENT VERY WELL.
SO THESE ARE THE SANDWICH BOARD SIGNS THAT WE HAD AT EACH PARK, AND WE WILL BE INSTALLING INTERPRETIVE SIGNS AT EACH PARK, UM, PERMANENT ONES, AND THIS IS WHAT THEY'LL LOOK LIKE.
THIS IS THE PLACEMENT MAP FOR ANNA'S MEADOW.
UM, WE'LL BE PUTTING THREE BLACK OAKS IN THAT PARK AT GRANT PARK.
WE, UM, WE'LL BE PUTTING EIGHT COAST REDWOOD TREES AT THE PARK, LAER PARK.
WE'VE GOT SIX WHITE ALDERS, FIVE COAST LIVE OAKS, AND THREE BLACK OAKS AND, UM, TURNBRIDGE PARK.
WE ARE PLACING THREE BUCKEYES, SIX NORTHERN CALIFORNIA BLACK WALNUT, FIVE COAST LIVE OAKS, AND THREE BLACK OAKS TO SHADE THE WALKWAYS THERE.
UM, FOX HOLLOW PARK, WE'LL BE PLACING SEVEN CALIFORNIA BUCKEYE, EIGHT WESTERN SYCAMORE, 16 COAST LIVE OAK, 17 BLUE OAK AND FIVE VALLEY OAK.
AND OUR, UH, PLANTING DAYS WILL BE DECEMBER 2ND AND DECEMBER 16TH, AND WE HOPE THAT SOME OF YOU WILL MAKE IT OUT THERE TO HELP US PLANT SOME TREES.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH, WELL, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
UM, I ALWAYS LOVE SEEING TREES GETTING PLANTED, AND AS WE JUST HEARD WITH THE UPDATE, RELIEF IS DOING SO MUCH GOOD WORK.
YOU KNOW, I DID WANNA ASK, AND APOLOGIES THAT THIS HAS BEEN ASKED MANY TIMES AND ANSWERED BEFORE, UM, JUST RELIEF.
WE GOT A, A PUBLIC COMMENT FROM A LOCAL WILDLIFE EXPERT, SUE KIRKS, WHO TALKED ABOUT LEAVING ENOUGH GRASSLANDS ON A LOT OF THESE.
I DID SEE GRASSLANDS, BUT IF YOU CAN JUST TALK ABOUT HOW YOU GUYS BALANCE THAT CONSIDERATION OF MAKING SURE WE KEEP NATIVE GRASSLANDS AS HABITAT AND THINGS LIKE THAT DURING THE PLANTINGS.
WELL, UM, I, FROM WHAT I CAN SEE, MOST OF THESE TREES ARE GOING INTO PARKS WITH PLANTED GRASSES.
AND IN FACT, THAT KIND OF GRASS ISN'T REALLY A HABITAT.
UM, IT IS A GREAT PLACE FOR KIDS TO PLAY AND TO THROW A BALL AND FOR DOGS TO CHASE AFTER BALLS.
UM, I MYSELF WOULDN'T COUNT, UM, THE IRRIGATED LAWN, LAWN AS A HABITAT, MAYBE IN PLACES WHERE WE'RE GONNA PLANT IN WILD AREAS.
AND I THINK THOSE WILL STAY HABITAT BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT ERADICATING THE,
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WHATEVER GRASSES ARE THERE, WE'LL JUST BE WATERING THE TREES AND THE TREES WILL GROW UP, UM, WITHIN THE GRASSES.AND I THINK THE ONE PARK THAT IS LIKE THAT IS FOX HOLLOW.
WE'LL, OR WE'LL BE PLANTING NOT IN AN IRRIGATED SPACE FOR PART OF IT, BUT A NON-IRRIGATED SPOT AND IN NO WAY MEANT TO IMPUGN THE WORK.
THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH, BUT THANKS FOR ANSWERING THE QUESTION.
I I CAN SPEAK ON FALO SINCE I DID THE PLAN.
UM, AND, UM, UH, SO THE WHOLE AREA BELOW WHERE ALL YOU SEE ALL THE, UM, THE CORCUS, THE BLUE OAKS, UM, THAT WAS ACTUALLY THE, THE PARK, THE CITY PARK PLAN FOR THIS CALLED THAT OUT AS A NATIVE MEADOW.
UM, ALTHOUGH WHEN I WAS THERE, IT WAS ALL JUST START THISTLE.
UM, SO IT'S, IT'S A, THE, THE CITY DOESN'T REALLY HAVE STAFF TO, TO MAINTAIN A NATIVE MEADOW, WHICH IS NOT JUST A NO MAINTENANCE SORT OF THING.
UM, IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE A NATIVE MEADOW HERE, AND I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY IN THE, IN THE WORKS.
AND I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S ENCOURAGED BOTH BY, BY PARK AND REC AND BY RELIEF.
UM, AND SO THESE TREES ARE ALL LAID OUT TO, TO ACTUALLY HAVE LOTS AND LOTS OF SUNLIGHT WITHIN SHADY GLIT AREAS.
UM, AND OF COURSE, CINDY'S USED TO MY COMPLAINING ABOUT THE, THEY, THEY TOOK THE, WHERE THE, UM, BLACK OAKS DOWN IN THE LOWER, LOWER LEFT HAND CORNER.
UM, I HAD IT ALL AS, AS THE COTTONWOOD, WHICH ARE PROBABLY THE MOST NATIVE TREE TO THIS VALLEY.
UM, AND PARK AND REC AND THE RESIDENTS BOTH REQUESTED THAT THEY NOT BE THERE.
SO I'M, I'M MAKING A BIG PUSH TO ACTUALLY INCLUDE POPULOUS FREMONT ON THESE TREE PLANTINGS, UM, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S, AS FAR AS HABITAT, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A VERY, UM, BENEFICIAL TREE AND, UM, AND REALLY CAN'T BE TOPPED.
UM, GREAT WORK AND THANK YOU FOR GETTING YOUR COMPONENT OF THE CAL FIRES GRANT IN AHEAD OF TIME.
WHAT, IN MONTHS AHEAD OF THE DEADLINE AND UNDER BUDGET.
THE WORK YOU ARE DOING IS EXCELLENT.
IT IS TOP, TOP NOTCH, AND YOU ARE SUCH A GREAT MODEL FOR OUR COMMUNITY, FOR OUR CITY.
AND, UM, MY HEART JUST WELL, UH, SWELLS BECAUSE I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS ARE COMMITTED TO DOING AND SO EXCELLENTLY EXECUTING.
I HAD, I HAD ONE MORE QUESTION.
UM, THE BLACK WALNUT, I KNOW THAT THAT WAS A REALLY HARD ONE TO GET TO PROPAGATE, AND IT WAS A ONE THAT WE WERE, WE COULDN'T FIND.
SO HAVE YOU SECURED A SOURCE FOR THAT? AND, UM, I THINK WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF SECURING A SOURCE AND, UM, WE'RE JUST NOW STARTING OUR SEARCH, SO WE WILL GET BACK TO YOU IF ANYTHING CHANGES.
IS THAT IT? YEAH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
DID WE OPEN THIS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT NOW? OR? IT'S A, IT'S A PRESENTATION SO NORMALLY YOU WOULDN'T GET GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
I DIDN'T HEAR A WORD YOU SAID.
IT'S, IT'S A PRESENTATION SO IT'S NOT OPEN TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
UM, SO NEXT UP WE HAVE A, A PRESENTATION BY FRIENDS OF THE PETMAN RIVER ON THE NORTH RIVER PARK PROJECT.
AND WELCOME ELIZABETH AND STEPHANIE.
HELLO EVERYBODY, I'M STEPHANIE BNAN.
I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AT FRIENDS OF THE PETALUMA RIVER, AND I HAVE WITH ME ELIZABETH HOWLAND, WHO IS OUR, ONE OF OUR FOUNDERS AND BOARD MEMBERS.
UM, SHE'S GONNA COME UP WHEN WE HAVE QUESTIONS, BUT, UM, BUT WE'LL LET HER SIT FOR NOW.
UH, I JUST WANNA START THE PRESENTATION BY GIVING A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON FRIENDS OF THE PETALUMA RIVER.
WE'RE A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT WAS FOUNDED IN 2005, AND OUR MISSION IS TO CELEBRATE THE PETALUMA WATERSHED THROUGH EDUCATION AND STEWARDSHIP.
AND, UM, OUR GOALS ARE TO NURTURE LONG-TERM STEWARDSHIP, UM, OF THE WATERSHED TO PROTECT THE WETLANDS, UM, TO FOSTER RIVER HERITAGE CENTER, AND TO PROMOTE ACCESS TO THE PETTON RIVER.
AND, UH, WE WORK WITH THE CITY TO MANAGE STEAMER LANDING PARK.
UM, MANY OF YOU I'M SURE ARE FAMILIAR WITH THIS.
IT'S OPEN SPACE PARK IN DOWNTOWN PETALUMA, AND IT'S REALLY THE HUB OF OUR PROGRAMMING.
AND, UM, JUST IN TERMS OF WHAT, WHAT WE DO AS AN ORGANIZATION, UM, WE HAVE A
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LARGE SUITE OF PROGRAMS THAT WE ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY WITH THE RIVER, INCLUDING, UM, RIVER CLEANUPS THAT WE DO THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF NATURE CAMPS FOR YOUTH AND A, UM, PROGRAM IN THE SCHOOLS TO GET THE KIDS OUTSIDE LEARNING ABOUT THE WATERSHED, UM, THROUGH HANDS-ON EDUCATION AND ALSO, UM, REBUILDING OUR DOCKET STEAMER LANDING PARK SO WE CAN GET PEOPLE BACK OUT ON THE WATER THERE TOO.
AND TODAY I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT, UM, A PROJECT THAT WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT.
UM, NAME IS A PLACEHOLDER, UM, BUT WE'RE CALLING IT THE PETALUMA RIVER GREENWAY RIGHT NOW.
AND, UM, WE'LL BE DOING A LOT MORE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AS WE GO FORWARD, AND HOPEFULLY THAT NAME WILL EVOLVE.
UM, SO HERE'S JUST AN OVERVIEW OF THE SPACE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
UM, IF THIS, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE LYNCH CREEK TRAIL, UM, BEFORE IT GOES UNDER THE FREEWAY, IF YOU HEADED, UM, NORTH OFF OF THE TRAIL ALL THE WAY TO CORONA ROAD, THAT'S THE STRETCH OF LAND THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR THIS PROJECT.
UM, SO IT INCORPORATES THE, UM, THE OUTLET MALL, WHICH IS THE, THE BUILT LANDSCAPE THERE, RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT, UM, LARGE GREEN SPACE.
UM, THIS IS JUST A LOOK AT, UM, THE PARCELS THAT WERE, UM, LOOKING AT TO BE PART OF THE GREENWAY.
UM, SO ORIGINALLY WE HAD, UM, RECEIVED SOME FUNDING FROM SONOMA WATER, AND WE, UM, DID A PARCEL STUDY AS PART OF THAT FUNDING, UM, THIS PRESENTATION.
AND, AND SOME OF THESE MAPS ARE WHAT WAS CREATED AS PART OF THAT PARCEL STUDY.
SO, UM, WE LOOKED AT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT PARCELS WERE EXISTING THERE, WHAT USES THEY HAD, UM, HOW THEY WERE GEOGRAPHICALLY LOCATED AND CAME UP WITH, UM, KIND OF A, A SYSTEM OF, UM, WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS, UM, NECESSARY AND WHAT WOULD LOVE TO INCLUDE.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE COULD DO THE WAY WITHOUT, UM, SO THOSE GREEN PARCELS ARE WHAT WE WERE THI SEEING AS ESSENTIAL PARCELS.
THE RED PARCELS ARE PARCELS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN DEVELOPED, SO A LOT OF THOSE BUSINESSES ALONG, UM,
AND THEN, UM, WE HAVE SOME AREAS THAT ARE ALSO DEVELOPED WITHIN THE GREEN WAY.
UM, AND AGAIN, JUST ANOTHER MAP THAT KIND OF GIVES YOU A CONCEPT IDEA OF WHAT THIS GREENWAY COULD LOOK LIKE.
UM, A A PIECE THAT'S MISSING HERE IS, UM, WHERE WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE RAINIER, UM, ACCESS, UM, ACT AS AN ACCESS POINT FOR THE EAST SIDE.
SO, UM, WE ALREADY HAVE THAT LOVELY UNDERPASS THAT WAS CREATED ON 1 0 1, AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT PLACE TO, UM, OFFER PARKING THAT PEOPLE COULD ACCESS THIS GREENWAY.
UM, BUT YOU CAN SEE TRAILS CONNECTING FROM LYNCH CREEK TRAIL TO THE SMART TRAIL, UM, UP TO, UM, THE CITY'S, UM, DENMAN REACH TRAIL.
SO A LOT OF GREAT CONNECTIONS THAT ARE ALREADY EXISTING THAT THIS WOULD CREATE.
UM, SO I WANNA GO OVER WITH YOU ALL JUST SOME, UM, TOP CONSERVATION VALUES OF, UM, WHAT THIS WOULD DO FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
SO, UM, OF COURSE, QUALITY OF LIFE.
UM, WE HAVE 16,000 PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE WITHIN A QUARTER MILE OF THE GREENWAY, SO THEY WOULD, YOU KNOW, UH, PRESUMABLY BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE GREENWAY WITHOUT GETTING INTO A CAR, WHICH IS REALLY EXCITING.
UM, AND THIS IS A PLACE WHERE, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF VISUAL ACCESS AS PEOPLE ARE PASSING BY ON THE FREEWAY.
SO WE HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DRIVERS THAT ARE PASSING BY.
UM, THIS WOULD ALSO DO A LOT TO COMPLETE SOME PLANNED THINGS WITH THE CITY.
SO THERE'S A PETALUMA RIVER TRAIL THAT WAS PLANNED AS PART OF THE, UM, RIVER ACCESS AND ENHANCEMENT PLAN THAT WAS CREATED IN 96 AND AS PART OF THE GENERAL PLAN.
SO THIS WOULD, UM, GO AHEAD AND CREATE SOME OF THAT RIVER TRAIL THAT'S ENVISIONED IN THAT, UM, AS WELL AS SOME PLANNED PARKS THAT ARE ALONG LYNCH CREEK TRAIL, UM, AND INCREASE SOME OPTIONS FOR, UM, MANNED WATERCRAFT ENTERING IN THE UPPER RIVER.
UM, AND THEN THIS GOES A LONG WAY TOWARDS SOME OF OUR OTHER GOALS AROUND CLIMATE CHANGE, BUILDING RESILIENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, WE'RE EXPECTED TO SEE A LOT MORE OF THESE, UM, EXTREME HEAT DAYS.
SO THE PARK OFFERS THIS PARK COOL EFFECT A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN GET OUT AND GET INTO THE SHADE, UM, GET OUT OF THE SUN.
UM, IT ALSO HELPS WITH WHAT WE'RE EXPECTING TO BE ABOUT THREE AND A HALF FEET OF SEA LEVEL RISE.
SO THIS AREA IS, UM, ONE OF OUR FRESHWATER WETLANDS IN THE UPPER RIVER.
AND SO THIS WILL ALLOW THAT WATER, UM, IN THOSE HIGH RAIN EVENTS AND THOSE, UM, HIGH, UH, UM, UM, TIDAL SITUATIONS TOO, TO, TO ABSORB THAT
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WATER RATHER THAN HAVING IT, UM, WASHED DOWNSTREAM AND, AND POTENTIALLY FLOOD OUR DOWNTOWN AREAS.UM, IT ALSO IS A GREAT AREA FOR HABITAT CONNECTIVITY.
SO, UM, RIGHT NOW, UM, THERE'S 27 SPECIES THAT HAVE BEEN RECORDED IN THIS AREA.
IT'S ALSO HOME TO, UM, JUST SOME AMAZING, UM, HERITAGE OAK TREES THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, HUNDREDS OF YEARS OLD.
THIS REALLY WELL DEVELOPED RIPARIAN CORRIDOR THAT IN MOST KIND OF URBAN SETTINGS HAVE BEEN CUT, CUT DOWN.
AND IN THIS SITUATION, WE STILL HAVE THESE AMAZING TREES THAT WE WANNA, UM, BE ABLE TO, UM, FOSTER AND SEE THEM CONTINUE.
UM, WE ALSO, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT, UM, SEQUESTERING CARBON THROUGH NATIVE PLANTINGS AND GRASSES AND ALSO REMOVING CARBON FROM THE AIR, UM, AND GETTING CARS OFF THE ROAD.
AND OF COURSE, I THINK I ALREADY MENTIONED THIS, BUT JUST STORM WATER FLOODING, ABSORBING THOSE WATERS.
35% OF THE PROPOSED GREENWAY IS IN THE FLOOD PLAIN.
UM, 47% IS WITHIN THE 500 YEAR FLOODPLAIN.
AND, UM, I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN THE FUTURE, THOSE FLOOD A HUNDRED YEAR FLOODS AND 500 YEAR FLOODS ARE GONNA BE A LOT MORE COMMON.
AND SO WE REALLY NEED THIS AREA TO ABSORB THESE WATERS AND, AND NOT BE A PLACE OF DEVELOPMENT.
UM, AND OF COURSE, WATER QUALITY PROTECTION.
UM, THESE AREAS ARE WETLANDS ARE REALLY, UM, SPONGES THAT HELP CLEAN THE WATER RATHER THAN PAVING OVER IT AND HAVING WATER WASH OFF THE PAVEMENT INTO THE RIVER AND, AND CREATE MORE POLLUTION IN OUR RIVER
AND THEN JUST LOOKING AT THE OPPORTUNITIES AND CONSTRAINTS AROUND THIS PROJECT.
UM, SO LIKE I SAID, WE LOOKED AT, UM, KIND OF THE NUMBER OF PARCELS THAT WE HAD.
THERE ARE 45 PARCELS IN THE PROJECT AREA.
UM, BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS THERE ARE ONLY FIVE OWNERS OF WHAT WE HAVE DEEMED THE ESSENTIAL PARCELS.
SO RATHER THAN WORKING WITH, YOU KNOW, 45 DIFFERENT LANDOWNERS, WE'RE LOOKING AT WORKING WITH FIVE OWNERS.
AND, UM, I MENTIONED RAINIER, BUT THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF OTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT AND, AND ZONING UP HERE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, REALLY PUTS THIS AREA AT RISK.
AND SO WE REALLY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT RATHER THAN SEEING THIS AREA BECOME DEVELOPED AND WITH ROADWAYS, THAT THIS IS AN AREA THAT WE CAN TREASURE AND PROTECT, UM, FOR GENERATIONS TO COME.
AND THIS MAP GIVES YOU A LITTLE OVERVIEW OF SOME OF THOSE TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS.
UM, AND THEN AGAIN, BACK TO THE FLOODING.
UM, THIS GIVES YOU A GREAT VISUAL
SO FIVE OUTTA THE 17 PARCELS ARE 100% WITHIN THE FLOOD ZONE.
UM, AND THEN ABOUT, UM, 12 OF THE 17 OR 50%.
UM, AND I CAN JUST SAY ANECDOTALLY, AS SOMEBODY WHO'S LIVED IN THIS AREA, UM, WHEN THE RAINS COME, UM, THERE, THERE'S A LOT OF STANDING WATER ON THESE, ON THIS AREA.
SO IT IS, UM, REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO ABSORB THOSE RAINS.
UM, AND THEN, UM, EARTHQUAKE LIQUEFACTION, UM, THERE'S, UH, THE LIQUEFACTION HAZARD IS MODERATE TO VERY HIGH IN THIS AREA AS WELL.
SO AGAIN, NOT SOMEPLACE WE WANNA BE BUILDING.
UM, SO ONE OF THE REASONS WE REALLY WERE EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT IS THAT THERE ARE IMMEDIATE FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES.
UM, THE, UM, CALIFORNIA HAS MADE A PRIORITY TO PRESERVE 30% OF LAND BY 2030.
UM, THERE ARE, UM, STATE AND LOCAL FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES THROUGH THE STATE COASTAL CONSERVANCY, THE WILDLIFE CONSERVATION BOARD, AS WELL AS OUR OWN, UM, UM, AG AND OPEN SPACE MATCHING GRANT PROGRAM.
UM, AND SO WE REALLY SAW THAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO MOVE ON THIS GREENWAY PROJECT.
AND, UM, WE HAVEN'T BEEN GOING IT ALONE.
UM, SO WE HAVE BEEN, UM, WORKING, UM, A LITTLE QUIETLY AT THIS POINT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE, UM, BIG FUNDING YET TO DO A BIG COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS.
UM, SO WE REALLY HAVE BEEN WORKING TO, TO, UM, BRING IN STAKEHOLDERS.
UM, WE HAVE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE, AS ONE OF OUR MAIN PARTNERS, THE SONOMA LAND TRUST.
UM, FRIENDS OF THE PETALUMA RIVER HAS NOT PURCHASED A LOT OF PROPERTY IN THE PAST, AND THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT THAT'S IN OUR WHEELHOUSE, BUT WE HAVE BEEN FORTUNATE THAT THE LAND TRUST HAS TAKEN US ON AS A PARTNER AND THEY HAVE BEEN, UM, SPEARHEADING THE ACQUISITION AND PRE-ACQUISITION TASKS.
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I MENTIONED SONOMA WATER WAS AN EARLY FUNDER OF THE PROJECT, UM, FOR THE PARCEL STUDY.AND WE'VE ALSO BEEN MEETING WITH OUR CITY MANAGER, UM, AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, UM, INDIVIDUALLY TO LET THEM KNOW ABOUT THE PROJECT AND HAVE HAD, UM, REALLY GOOD SUPPORT FROM ALL OF THOSE FOLKS AS WELL.
UM, WE'VE BEEN TAKING OUR, UM, LOCAL LEADERS OUT, INCLUDING OUR SUPERVISOR, CONGRESSMAN AND OUR LOCAL SENATOR STAFF TO GET THEM ACQUAINTED WITH THE PROJECT AND AGAIN, HAVE BEEN MEETING WITH, UM, A LOT OF SUPPORT IN THOSE, UM, MEETINGS.
AND THEN, UM, THIS IS JUST SOME OF THE COMMUNITY GROUPS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH.
UM, COOL PETALUMA, THE PETALUMA RIVER PARK, THE SONOMA RESOURCE CONSERVATION DISTRICT, SONOMA COUNTY REGIONAL PARKS, UM, AND OTHERS AS WELL.
BUT REALLY JUST TRYING TO GET ALL OF OUR STAKEHOLDERS AWARE OF THE PROJECT AND, AND GET THEIR SUPPORT, UM, AND, AND THEIR EXPERTISE AND NEXT STEPS.
UM, SO BIG STEP RIGHT NOW IS WE ARE, UM, APPLYING FOR A GRANT THAT WILL ALLOW US TO DO A BIG COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS, AS WELL AS SOME INITIAL PLANNING ON WHAT RESTORATION AND RECREATION COULD LOOK LIKE.
UM, SO WE ARE APPLYING FOR THAT THROUGH THE COASTAL CONSERVANCY AND SHOULD HAVE NO MORE ABOUT THAT BY EARLY NEXT YEAR.
AND WITH THOSE FUNDS, UM, WE PLAN TO WORK, UM, TO CREATE SOME, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT WHAT THIS COULD MEAN FOR THE COMMUNITY.
SO WE WANT THE COMMUNITY TO BE ENGAGED IN THE PROCESS.
UM, WE HAVE A, A BIG PORTION OF THE FUNDING WOULD GO TOWARDS THIS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, UM, WHERE WE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, DOING SOME COMMUNITY MEETINGS, BUT ALSO WORKING WITH, UM, STAKEHOLDERS AND DIFFERENT REPRESENTATIVES IN OUR COMMUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE HEARING FROM THEM, UM, AND THAT THEY'RE PART OF THE PROCESS ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
UM, AND THEN WE WANT TO COME OUT OF THIS WITH, UM, SOME MORE CON CONCEPTUAL MAPS OF WHAT THIS COULD LOOK LIKE.
UM, AND THEN A BIG PART TOO IS WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT THIS COULD LOOK LIKE IN THE LONG TERM.
UM, FRIENDS OF THE PETALUMA RIVER IS, UM, VERY EAGER TO SEE THIS PROJECT HAPPEN.
WE'RE NOT SO EAGER NECESSARILY TO BE THE TITLE HOLDER OF THIS LAND.
UM, SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO OUR PARTNERS WILL BE IN THE LONG TERM TO, UM, MAKE SURE THAT THIS LAND IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, UM, AND THAT THERE IS ACCESS, UM, AND MAINTENANCE GOING ON INTO THE FUTURE.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT POSSIBLY A, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THREE OR FOUR ORGANIZATIONS THAT CAN COME TOGETHER TO HELP, UM, YOU KNOW, OWN TITLE, UM, HELP MAINTAIN, UM, BRING PROGRAMMING AND ACCESS.
UM, AND THEN REALLY LOOKING TOWARDS THE EXISTING ENHANCEMENT PLAN AS A GUIDE FOR THIS.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT, IT HAS THE RIVER CORRIDOR AND THE TRAILS, BUT WE REALLY WANT TO GO BEYOND WHAT'S ENVISIONED IN THAT ENHANCEMENT PLAN, UM, TO INCORPORATE THE, UM, IT'S ABOUT 170 ACRES, SO IT'S MUCH MORE THAN JUST THE RIPARIAN CORRIDOR.
AND SO WE WANNA, UM, JUST WORK FROM THAT, UM, DOCUMENT TO BE ABLE TO EXPAND AND REALIZE A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WERE ENVISIONED THERE.
UM, SO I WOULD LOVE TO JUST OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS AND, UM, THOUGHTS, IDEAS.
IT'S LIKE, THIS IS SO EXCITING.
DURING THE PANDEMIC, I EXPLORED THAT AREA WHEN THE PARKS WERE CLOSED AND WAS BLOWN AWAY BY HOW BEAUTIFUL IT IS.
SO JUST AS A CITIZEN, IT'S LIKE, WHERE DO I DONATE AND YEAH.
AND HOW CAN I HELP? IT'S JUST SO COOL.
AND I'LL SECOND THAT AND POINT OUT THAT, YOU KNOW, AS A COMMUNITY WHEN WE WANT CERTAIN AREAS TO BE PROTECTED, THIS KIND OF PROCESS IS REALLY THE ONLY WAY TO ENGAGE IN THAT.
I KNOW THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WERE KIND CONCERNS ABOUT THE INFAMOUS RAINIER PROJECT AND DIFFERENT PROJECTS IN THE AREA, AND REALLY TAKING ON THE RESPONSIBILITY TO PURSUE OWNERSHIP, PUT IT IN SOME KIND OF LAND TRUST OR LONG-TERM.
I MEAN, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS MAKING THIS INVESTMENT INTO OUR COMMUNITY.
I MEAN, THE TIME, TALENT, AND TREASURE YOU HAVE TO INVEST TO DO THIS IS IMMENSE.
I'M CURIOUS, UM, IN TALKS WITH LANDOWNERS, AND I DON'T WANT YOU TO REVEAL TOO MUCH, HAS IT BEEN GENERALLY POSITIVE? ARE THEY KIND OF PARTNERS THEY SEE THE VISION OR WHAT YEAH, JUST ANYTHING ON THE TENOR OF THAT.
UM, SO WE DID INITIAL OUTREACH AS JUST LETTERS, LETTING PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE WERE INTERESTED IN THIS PROCESS AND, AND WANTING TO BE VERY TRANSPARENT.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS WITH PUBLIC FUNDING, UM, AND THE RESPONSES WE DID GET, UM, WERE POSITIVE.
UM, THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO OF THE PARCELS ARE CURRENTLY FOR SALE RIGHT NOW, SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, AN EASY ONE RIGHT THERE.
UM, AND THEN WE'VE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE AT VARIOUS PHASES WITH DIFFERENT LANDOWNERS, BUT YEAH, EVERYBODY'S SO FAR BEEN PRETTY OPEN TO WORKING WITH US.
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UM, VERY EFFECTIVE PRESENTATION.AND THE MOST SUCCINCT AND CLEAR PRESENTATION WE'VE HAD IN A LONG TIME.
SO, UM, AND IT'S BEYOND VALUE TO THE COMMUNITY, IT'S A TREMENDOUS, UH, ASSET.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR GOOD WORK.
I CAN'T TAKE ALL THE CREDIT 'CAUSE IT WAS PREPARED BY OUR CONSULTANT, BUT
I JUST WANNA TAG ALONG WITH MY FELLOW COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR EFFORT IN THIS ENDEAVOR.
UM, I WORKED FOR MANY YEARS IN SAN FRANCISCO AND PARKS, AND IT WAS ALWAYS SO GRATIFYING WHEN THE COMMUNITY OF PEOPLE WHO JUST WANTED TO SEE GOOD THINGS HAPPEN IN THEIR PARKS WOULD BAND TOGETHER.
AND, YOU KNOW, SPEAKING AS A, A PARK WORKER, THAT TYPE OF ENGAGEMENT AND INVOLVEMENT BY THE COMMUNITY IS INVALUABLE.
AND IT IS THE MOST DIRECT AND SUCCESSFUL WAY TO PRESERVE AND SET ASIDE SOME OF THESE LANDS THAT ARE SO PRECIOUS AND THAT JUST WON'T BE THERE IF THIS TYPE OF ACTION IS NOT TAKEN.
AND I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE CITY'S ACTION, UM, TO, TO, UM, I GUESS TO DEPRIORITIZED RAINIER HAS BEEN A GREAT THING TO SEE.
AND, UM, I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE REALLY HELPFUL IN MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT.
I, UM, I WANNA THANK YOU AS WELL.
I, I KNOW THIS AREA VERY WELL.
UM, AND, UH, THERE'S SO MUCH TO IT AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE HITTING IT ALL.
THERE'S SO MANY CRITICAL REASONS FOR OUR FUTURE TO DO THIS PARK.
AND, AND, UM, I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS, BUT I WANNA SAY, UM, I DON'T THINK AS MUCH AS EVERYONE'S WANT WANTS THIS PARK AND HAS WANTED THIS PARK FOR DECADES, I DON'T THINK ANYONE ELSE COULD PULL IT OFF LIKE YOU ARE.
IT'S IMMENSELY HUGE AND SO APPRECIATED.
IT'S JUST THE HAPPIEST THING I'VE SEEN, SEEN IN THIS TOWN WITH A CLOSE SECOND WITH RELIEF
UM, AND, UM, TWO LITTLE QUESTIONS PLEASE, BECAUSE I GET A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS, ESPECIALLY 'CAUSE I LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
NUMBER ONE IS, UM, LOOKING AT YOUR MAPS, UM, THE ONE THAT IS A MAP THAT IS MORE GRAPHIC, I THINK IT MIGHT BE SLIDE FOUR, IT'S, IT'S MORE OF AN ILLUSTRATION.
YOU'VE GOT A LINE DOWN THERE THROUGH SEC, UH, PARCEL NINE IS, WHAT IS THAT LINE? THAT PURPLE LINE? UM, I'M NOT SEEING THAT.
UM, I'M ACTUALLY NOT SURE WHAT THAT IS.
UM, YEAH, 'CAUSE THAT'S KIND OF, YEAH, I'M NOT, OH, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT BE THE, IS THAT THE ACTUAL RIVER CORRIDOR? I THINK WHERE THAT SNAKES OFF, SO THAT'S RIGHT.
WHERE, UM, AND I DON'T KNOW WHY IT DOESN'T CONTINUE, I GUESS, BUT LIKE MAYBE THE WALL, THE FLOOD WALL OR SOMETHING.
YEAH, THE, MAYBE IT'S THE WEIR.
IT MIGHT BE WHERE THE WEIR IS.
THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION THOUGH.
SORRY, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER.
AND THEN, IS IT TRUE THE RUMOR THAT'S CIRCULATE CIRCULATING THAT THIS WOULD MEAN THAT THE SPAN, UH, WOULD BE SIX MILES ONE WAY AND SIX MILES BACK IN TOTAL FOR RIVERFRONT PATHWAY ACCESS, ULTIMATELY? IS THAT AN ACCURATE ESTIMATE? I'M NOT SURE BECAUSE THIS IS ABOUT 1.6 MILES IN LENGTH.
UM, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LENGTH THEN IF YOU CONTINUED ONTO THE LYNCH CREEK TRAIL.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE LIKE ADDING THOSE TOGETHER SOUTH THROUGH TOWN? YEAH, I MEAN, YEAH, I DON'T KNOW, BUT IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, IT WILL CONNECT UP TO DENMAN REACH.
AND WITH JUST A LITTLE BIT OF WORK IT REALLY COULD CONNECT TO, TO, TO DOWNTOWN AND THEN ON SOUTH.
SO I THINK IT HAS, YOU KNOW, AND IN TERMS OF ACCESS FOR WALKING FROM EAST, THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT, UH, ENTRANCES FROM THE EAST AND THEN THERE'S THE NORTH AND SOUTH.
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PITMAN BOULEVARD SIDE, BUT, UM, IT'D BE A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE.YEAH, YOU'RE, YOU'RE RIGHT, SIGNIFICANT.
THAT WOWS EVERYBODY I TALK TO WHEN YOU QUANTIFY IT LIKE THAT, THEY'RE LIKE, HOLY COW, I DON'T HAVE TO GET IN MY CAR TO GO FOR A LONG WALK ANYMORE.
AND I THINK ONE THING THAT'S SO IMPORTANT TO ME PERSONALLY, AND I THINK TO OUR COMMUNITY MORE IMPORTANTLY, IS THE ACCESS FROM THE EAST SIDE FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO WALK AND CONNECT WITH THE RIVER THAT HAS BEEN SUCH NOT A PART OF OUR COMMUNITY IN THAT GREAT DIVIDE OF THE FREEWAY, THE RIVER, AND THE, THE, THE RAIL.
I THINK THIS IS GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY GONNA OPEN THAT UP FOR SO MANY OF OUR RESIDENTS THAT LIVE ON EAST SIDE.
UM, ONE LITTLE MINOR COMMENT I JUST THOUGHT MIGHT BE VALUABLE TO YOU GUYS IN THE FUTURE IS THAT WITHIN A BLOCK AND A HALF OF THIS, JUST IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, I CAN COUNT NINE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNDERSERVED.
SO I KNOW THAT GETTING FUNDING, THEY PAY ATTENTION TO THAT KIND OF THING.
UM, THANK YOU GUYS BOTH, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ALL DEAR TO MY HEART.
AND, UM, UH, I HAVE A COUPLE OF, UM, I MEAN, ONE, ONE THING THAT I I REALLY APPRECIATE ABOUT THIS IS THAT I, I THINK IT BRINGS PETALUMA INTO THIS CONVERSATION THAT'S GOING ON ALONG THE BAY IN THE BAY AREA ITSELF.
UM, ALAMEDA AND THEIR DEEP PAVE PARK, THEY'RE, THEY'RE TEARING UP THE LANDING STRIPS AT THE NAVAL AIR BASE THERE, AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY RESTORING THE WETLANDS.
THERE'S AN ESTUARY PROJECT GOING ON IN HAYWARD WHERE THEY'RE RESTORING THE WETLANDS.
THERE'S SAN FRANCISCO'S DOING IT ALONG THEIR WATERFRONT, UM, ESPECIALLY AROUND THE BALLPARK AND AROUND, UM, CHINA BASIN.
AND THEN, UM, EVEN SAN JOSE IS REALIGNING THEIR MAIN, PEDE THEIR MAIN STREET TO BE MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY AND HABITAT FRIENDLY.
AND SO I THINK THIS BRINGS PETALUMA INTO THAT CONVERSATION, AND I THINK IT'S VERY EXCITING.
AND I THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE, BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE, I, I FORGET, BUT THE, I KNOW THE PETALUMA WETLANDS IS RATED ONE OF THE TOP WETLANDS IN THE, IN THE WORLD, I BELIEVE.
AND SO, AND SO, AND THAT BRINGS ME TO THE NEXT THING IS THAT WE'VE TALKED, YOU KNOW, I GREW UP ON THE BANKS OF DENMAN FLATS.
AND SO IN THE WINTERTIME WHEN IT'S FLOODED ALL THE WAY FROM, YOU KNOW, FROM STONY POINT OR FROM THE PLUM OF BOULEVARD NORTH ALL THE WAY UP TO STONY POINT AND, YOU KNOW, AND UP TO PEPPER ROAD AND THROUGH THERE, IT IS JUST SO GLORIOUS TO SEE ALL THAT WATER HARVESTED.
AND, UM, AND I KNOW LIBERTY CREEK IS THE HEADWATERS, WHICH IS JUST ABOVE RAILROAD AND PLUM OF BOULEVARD.
AND I KNOW THAT, THAT, THAT DEVIL MOUNTAIN NURSERY IS DOING SOME, TAKING GREAT EFFORT FOR THEIR, THEIR LITTLE PART OF, OF LIBERTY CREEK THAT THEY'RE DOING.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I I'M SURE THAT IT, IT JUST OPENS UP THE CONVERSATION THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY PRESERVE THIS RIVER ALL THE WAY UP TO THE, TO THE, TO THE ACTUAL HEADWATERS.
AND UM, AND I THINK THAT'S VERY EXCITING AND IT'S SORT OF STINKING THAT, THAT AS A ACCESS FROM THE HEADWATERS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE SAN PABLO BAY WETLANDS WOULD JUST BE SO GLORIOUS.
AND WHAT A, WHAT A WHAT A BEAUTIFUL THING FOR PLUMA TO HAVE.
UM, I DO THINK THAT, UM, I HAVE ONE QUESTION ABOUT THE PARKING LOT AT THE MALL, THE OUTLET MALL.
IT SEEMS LIKE A REALLY GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO, TO USE THAT PARKING LOT EITHER AS, AS, AS RAINWATER CATCHMENT, AS ALSO FILTRATION BIOFILTRATION, AND ALSO REPLANTING THAT PARKING LOT TO BE PART OF THIS, PART OF THIS, THIS, THIS EFFORT.
UM, I THINK THAT THE CITY, AS SOMEBODY NEEDS TO LEAN DOWN ON SMART TRAIL, 'CAUSE THAT SMART TRAIL IS A DISASTER.
UM, IT'S, IT'S BLACKTOP WITH CHAIN LINK FENCE RIGHT UP NEXT TO IT AND NO TREES.
IT'S REALLY, IT'S, IT, IT'S APPALLING.
UM, AND, UM, I COULD GET INTO THAT ON ANOTHER DAY.
UM, AND THEN, UM, UH, IT ALSO WITH THE RIVER ENHANCEMENT PLAN, YOU, YOU THINK IS, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT TO, TO BRING UP TO DATE? I KNOW IT'S, IT'S, IT'S TERRIBLY OUTDATED.
UM, I'M NOT EVEN SURE IT INCLUDES A PLANTING PLAN FOR WHAT WE SHOULD BE PLANTING ALONG THE BANKS OF THIS RIVER.
AND I THINK AN EFFORT LIKE THIS SHOULD NECESSARILY INCLUDE A RESTORATION, YOU KNOW, PLANTING PLAN.
SO, UM, THEY'RE VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT GOES ON IN THE BANKS OF THAT RIVER.
AND, AND SO, AND THAT WOULD BE ALSO HELPFUL, UM, FOR THIS COMMITTEE AND FOR, FOR PLANTING AND THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE GOING ON BECAUSE THERE'S A 70 FOOT BUFFER ZONE BETWEEN THE RIVER AND THE DEVELOPMENT, AND NOBODY REALLY KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE PLANTING THERE.
SO IT'S, IT'S UNFAIR TO THE HABITAT, BUT IT'S ALSO UNFAIR TO THE DEVELOPERS 'CAUSE THEY, THEY ACTUALLY, THEY HAVE NO GUIDANCE.
SO, UM, I THINK ALL OF THIS IS A REALLY GOOD, UM, CONVERSATION TO BE HAVING, YOU KNOW, IN THE CONTEXT OF THIS.
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YOU, YOU'VE, YOU'VE STARTED THAT CONVERSATION AND I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.UM, I, I, I THINK THE, SO THE COASTAL CONSERVANCY HAD FUNDED THAT RIVER ENHANCEMENT AND ACCESS PLAN, AND SO, YOU KNOW, PART OF WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS, UH, FROM THEM WITH THIS NEW GRANT IS TO HELP US UPDATE, YOU KNOW, PRETTY MUCH THAT PORTION OF IT.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, UPDATING THE WHOLE THING WOULD BE GREAT.
AND I ALSO AGREE THAT A TRAIL ALL THE WAY FROM THE HEADWATERS TO THE BAY WOULD BE AMAZING.
SO THIS IS JUST THE FIRST STEP AND WE'LL BE BACK
I HAVE ONE MORE THING I WANTED TO ADD IS JUST SOMETHING I SAW THIS MORNING CAME THROUGH, UM, THE USDA HARDEN IS, ZONE MAP IS OUT, THE NEW ONE IS OUT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS, UM, AND I JUST WANNA MAKE COMMENT OF IT HERE BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT IN RELATIONSHIP TO THIS AND ALSO WHAT THIS COMMITTEE'S DOING WITH OUR URBAN CANOPY.
UM, OUR ZONE BOUNDARIES HAVE SHIFTED IN OVERALL IT'S A QUARTER ZONE OR TWO AND A HALF DEGREES WARMER THAN THE 2012 MAP.
UM, AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE, IF WE DON'T KNOW, IS, SO THE USDA HARDENING, THE ZONES ARE WHAT WE BASE OUR PLANT LISTS ON OF WHAT WE'LL DO HERE.
AND SO ALL OF THAT STUFF IS SHIFTING NORTH.
AND SO, AND SO THAT'S TO SAY THAT WHAT'S EVER SOUTH OF HERE IS ACTUALLY SHIFTING NORTH.
UM, AND, AND CONCERNING MM-HMM.
SO I'D LIKE TO ADD ONE THING YES, PLEASE.
WHICH IN THE RIVER ENHANCEMENT PLAN, UH, REALLY CUED ME TO WANNA SAY THIS, WHICH IS WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, TAKEN THE INITIATIVE TO CREATE THIS PLAN AND TO GO AFTER THIS FUNDING AND TO BRING, AND SOON TO BE BRINGING OUR COMMUNITY MORE INTO THIS CONVERSATION.
AND WE ARE WORKING FROM THE FOUNDATION OF SO MUCH GOOD WORK THAT DONE.
WOULD YOU MIND COMING UP JUST TO THE PODIUM? OH, SORRY.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT WE HAVE TAKEN THE INITIATIVE TO, UH, LAUNCH THIS PROJECT, BUT WE'RE REALLY BUILDING ON THE WORK OF SO MANY PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT HAVE CARED ABOUT THE RIVER, HAVE BROUGHT ATTENTION TO THE UPPER RIVER, AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO OUR COMMUNITY.
HAVE CRE DEVELOPED THE RIVER ENHANCEMENT PLAN ALL THOSE YEARS AGO.
AND SO THIS REALLY IS A COMMUNITY EFFORT AND WE'RE, YOU KNOW, TAKING THE INITIATIVE TO MOVE THIS ALONG.
AND SO LOOK FORWARD TO MORE OF OUR COMMUNITY JOINING US ON THIS PATH AND HONORING THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE DONE ALL THAT GOOD WORK.
AND I ALSO JUST WANTED TO INVITE YOU THAT IF YOU'D LIKE TO TAKE A WALK UP THERE WITH US, WE'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE A STROLL.
AND WE ALSO HAVE A WEBSITE SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS PROJECT.
IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, UPDATING, IT HASN'T BEEN OUR, OUR HIGHEST PRIORITY, BUT IT'S, UH, PETALUMA RIVER.ORG.
THERE IS A PLACE THERE TO MAKE A DONATION
AND, UH, I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT.
CAN YOU JUST A FOLLOW UP ON HOWARD'S DISCUSSION OF THE RIVER ENHANCEMENT PLAN.
UM, MY RECOLLECTION OF LOOKING AT THE PLAN, THAT'S A GREAT, UM, IDEA AND A GREAT SENSE OF PURPOSE, BUT IT NEEDS A LOT MORE DETAIL IS, YOU KNOW, LIKE AS ALREADY CALL SOME OF THE SECTIONS WHERE SETBACK IS 30 TO 60 FEET AND IT'S SOUNDS LIKE IT'S UP TO THE DEVELOPER TO DECIDE WHICH, WHICH IT IS.
AND GUESS WHAT IT'S GONNA BE
IS IT A PARKING LOT OR IS IT A BUILDING OR IS IT A, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS, ARE YOU INVOLVED IN UPGRADING THAT OR THE GENERAL PLAN? IS THERE GONNA BE A REFRESHED LOOK AT THE RIVER ENHANCEMENT PLAN? UM, NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF, BUT, UM, WE ARE DEFINITELY WILL BE LOOKING AT UPDATING THIS SECTION THAT COVERS THIS UPPER RIVER SECTION.
UM, AND YEAH, IT IS OUTDATED FOR SURE, THE THE 96 PLAN.
SO, UM, I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S AN EFFORT TO UPDATE THE WHOLE THING OR IF IT'LL JUST BE KIND OF PIECEMEAL AS PROJECTS COME ALONG.
WOULD, WOULD THAT BE YOUR GROUP? WOULD THAT NOT BE YOUR, I MEAN, SEEM LIKE YOU ARE THE RIVER PEOPLE, RIGHT? YEAH.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING WE ARE BITING OFF AT THIS MOMENT, BUT, UM, IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK AT IN THE FUTURE.
WELL, AND OR, OR AT LEAST GET THE GENERAL PLAN TO, TO UPGRADE IT AS PART OF THEIR UPDATING.
YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY, ROGER, I THINK WE COULD ADVOCATE FOR THAT TO BE REFERENCED IN THE GENERAL PLAN AND START THAT PROCESS.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE A WORTHY EFFORT.
HOW ABOUT A RIVER COMMITTEE? JUST, YOU KNOW, LIKE US.
ALMOST LIKE TO ECHO THE THOUGHTS OF HOW EXCITING IT WOULD BE TO HAVE THE CONNECTIVITY.
I MEAN, THIS IS EXCITING ALONE, BUT TO SEE IT, UH, BEYOND TO THROUGH, UH, THE POMEROY AND, UH, THE SITES.
WHAT ARE WE CALLING? UM, WELL, ALL THE WAY TO SCHOENBERGER.
YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HOW THAT COULD COME ALONG.
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UM, UM, THAT'S A, A GREAT COMMENT ABOUT, UH, THE RIVER, A RIVER COMMITTEE, UH, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.SOME HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT EXPANDING THE, UM, PURVIEW OF THE TREE COMMITTEE TO MAKING IT A NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE.
AND I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A REALLY GOOD FIT.
UM, AND THEN I JUST WANNA CLARIFY, I FIGURED OUT WHAT THAT PURPLE LINE IS THAT GOES THROUGH SEGMENT NINE.
IT IS THE PATHWAY THAT'S ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE RIVER.
RIGHT BEHIND CALI'S HOUSE, JUST BY THE WALL.
AND IT GOES UP AND MAKES A LITTLE TURN UNTIL IT STOPS ABOVE THE PARKING LOT AT OAK CREEK APARTMENTS.
I JUST HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN AGAIN, THE, THE NUM THE NUMBERS ON THE PARCELS? OH, THAT WAS JUST THE, THE PARCEL NUMBER.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HAS ANY BEARING ON, I MEAN, I DON'T THINK THE NUMBERS MEAN ANYTHING.
I, I REALLY, I'M, I'M, I'M SO THRILLED ABOUT THIS.
AND PLEASE REACH OUT WITH ANY QUESTIONS AND WE'LL FOLLOW UP AND HOPEFULLY GET YOU ALL OUT FOR A WALK.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
NEXT I'LL MOVE TO AN APPROVAL OF MINUTES, UH, FOR THE MEETING FROM AUGUST 16TH, 2023.ALL THOSE IN FAVOR UNANIMOUSLY, UM, RECOMMENDATION.
NEXT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO OH, APPROVE OF MINUTES FOR THE MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 20TH, 2023.
I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? I CAN'T, WASN'T HERE.
THEN I THINK WE APPROVE THOSE MINUTES.
[PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION]
UM, I ASSUME WE'RE ON PUBLIC.DO WE, UH, DO WE ASK FOR ANY, UM, UH, GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT RIGHT NOW? OR JUST NOT OKAY.
UM, FOR COMMUNICATION AND OUTREACH AD HOC COMMITTEE PROGRESS UPDATE.
DO WE HAVE AN UPDATE? WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO AHEAD? YEAH, I'LL GIVE AN UPDATE.
UH, WE MET INTERNALLY AS A GROUP FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A LONG TIME AFTER A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVING VARIOUS THINGS OVER THE SUMMER.
UH, AND ACTUALLY I THINK WE HAD SOME GOOD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT OUTREACH TO OTHER CITIES THAT SEEMED TO HAVE REALLY GOOD STREET TREE PROGRAMS AND REALLY GOOD URBAN FORESTRY PROGRAMS. AND SEEING IF WE CAN MAKE ANY CONNECTIONS WITH THEIR CITY STAFF AND SEE HOW THEY'RE STRUCTURED AND IN THE, KIND OF THE MOST IDEAL SENSE OF THIS, MAYBE HAVE THEM COME AND GIVE PRESENTATIONS TO THIS COMMITTEE AND OR CITY STAFF JUST TO START SOME CONVERSATIONS AND SEEING WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING THAT'S WORKING.
UH, AND TARYN HAS ALREADY DONE A TON OF LEGWORK WITH THE CITY OF CHICO, UH, AND ENGAGED THEM.
AND WE READ THEIR URBAN FORESTRY PLAN, AND IT'S A BEAUTIFUL DOCUMENT.
UH, IT'S REALLY A WELL THOUGHT OUT DOCUMENT.
I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED BY THE LEVEL OF DEPTH THERE.
YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT NOT REINVENTING THE WHEEL WHEN IT SOMETIMES COMES TO POLICY DOCUMENTS.
SO IT'S A REALLY GOOD MODEL TO LOOK AT, AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL FIND SOME OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE THE SAME.
UM, AND I'LL JUST ADD THAT, UM, OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH OTHER CITIES ARE SO VALUABLE.
I ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO DO THAT ON THEIR OWN AS AN INDIVIDUAL OR WITHIN ANY AD HOC YOU'RE IN.
UM, BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF MYTH BUSTING THAT HAPPENS, UM, AND THAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE EVERY FAMILY'S A DIFFERENT FAMILY AND LOOKS AT THINGS A DIFFERENT WAY.
AND WHEN YOU LEARN SOMETHING THAT IS POSSIBLE PER CALIFORNIA LAW, UM, IN A DIFFERENT CITY THAT WE CAN DO HERE, IT, IT'S JUST SUCH AN EASY, UH, IT'S LOW HANGING FRUIT.
AND, UM, IT'S REALLY WONDERFUL TO BE GETTING THIS FRESH INFORMATION, NEW INFORMATION BY, UM, HAVING THESE IN-DEPTH CONVERSATIONS WITH BEST PRACTICE CITIES.
CAN WE ASK QUESTIONS LIKE WHAT ARE SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS HERE? YEAH.
THEY'VE GOT, IT'S, IT'S IN THE DEAL ATL SOMEHOW, SOMEWHAT SIMILAR TO THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS MEETING THAT WE HAD, THE PRESENTATION WE HAD, THEY GO INTO THAT KIND OF STUFF IN THEIR TREE ORDINANCE.
AND SO IT'S JUST REALLY CLEAR TO DEVELOPERS, HOMEOWNERS, WHOMEVER, WHAT THEY'RE SHOOTING FOR, WHAT THEY NEED TO
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MAINTAIN.AND I KNOW LIKE IN THE LAST, UM, MEETING WHERE I WASN'T HERE BUT TO WATCH THE, UH, VIDEO ABOUT, FOR EXAMPLE, PEOPLE THAT CUT DOWN TREES AROUND HERE, AND THEN THEY CLAIM, OH, WELL, IT'S BECAUSE A TREE RAN INTO IT AND I HAD TO, YOU KNOW, CUT IT DOWN.
WHERE ARE THE PHOTOS? YOU HAVE TO HAVE PROOF TO DO THAT.
YOU CAN'T JUST CLAIM THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE BASIC LEGAL TENANT.
UM, AND ALSO TREES FALLING, LIMBS FALLING.
AND THERE ARE, THERE IS IMMUNITY FOR CALIFORNIA CITIES.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF NUANCE AROUND THAT.
WE DON'T HAVE TO BE RUNNING AROUND LIKE CHICKEN LITTLE, THE SKY IS FALLING, SKY IS FALLING, WE'RE GONNA GET SUED, WHICH WE SEEM TO DO HERE IN PETALUMA.
YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THE NUANCE OF WHEN THAT COULD BE THE CASE.
BUT OVERALL, THESE OTHER CITIES ARE SAYING NO, PEOPLE MAKE CLAIMS, BUT WE DON'T PAY THEM OUT.
YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE, UM, IT'S, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL DOCUMENT THAT'S WORTH SEEING.
AND IT'S, UH, I MEAN ALL THE EQUATIONS FOR THE VALUE OF TREES AND WHAT TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE ENVIRONMENT, TO THE AIR, TO, UH, IT'S SO WELL DOCUMENTED.
AND SO, UM, EASY TO JUST SAY, LET'S, LET'S ABSORB THAT.
BUT THE BIG FORK IN THE ROAD IS THEY, THEY DECIDED THAT THEY WOULD TAKE CARE OF STREET TREES IN THE 1850S.
AND THEY HAVE DONE THAT SINCE THE 1850S.
PETALUMA IS NOT, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER TO GET ANYTHING CLOSE TO CHICO, YOU HAVE TO TAKE OVER THE STREET TREE RESPONSIBILITY.
AND I THINK THAT'S A DIFFICULT THING TO GET THE CITY TO DO.
UH, THEY'RE USED TO NOT HAVING THAT MAINTENANCE RESPONSIBILITY.
AND SO I THINK THAT'S THE BIG SALES JOB.
HOW DO WE GET THAT SHIFT? I WANNA ADD TO THAT ROGER, THAT THAT'S THE CITY OF CHICO, 120,000 POPULATION, 25,000 STREET TREES.
AND THE BUDGET THAT THEY GET ANNUALLY FOR THIS, THE CITY TO TAKE OVER THE STREET TREES IS 300,000.
THEY'VE GOT TWICE AS MANY PEOPLE AS WE DO.
SO IF WE'RE CUTTING THAT IN HALF, AND HOW MANY STREET TREES DO WE HAVE? I DON'T KNOW.
UM, BUT IF WE DID TAKE IT OVER, IT'S PROBABLY ROUGHLY GONNA CHOP THAT IN HALF TO 150 K.
WE SPEND THAT IN A HEARTBEAT IN THE CITY.
SO THAT'S NOT SUCH, TO ME, THAT'S NOT SUCH A BIG SHOWSTOPPER.
JUST IN, IN CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD WITH OTHER LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS IN TOWN, IS THAT THE ONLY WAY THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE A, AN EFFECTIVE TREE CANOPY IN THE CITY IS THAT THE CITY DOES TAKE OVER RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEM.
AND CERTAINLY IT IS A FINANCIAL QUESTION.
AND, UM, AND A LABOR QUESTION, UM, BANDWIDTH HAS, THE CITY HAS THE BANDWIDTH TO DO THAT.
UM, I KNOW SAN FRANCISCO WAS, HAD LONG, HAD A HISTORY OF TAKING CARE OF THEIR STREET TREES, AND THEN IT BECAME, UM, TOO EXPENSIVE.
AND SO THEY, THEY PUT THE RESPONSIBILITY ONTO THE HOMEOWNERS AND THE BUSINESS OWNERS, BUT THE CITY, THE RESIDENTS ACTUALLY REVOLTED AGAINST THAT AND ACTUALLY APPROVED, UM, TO TAX THEMSELVES TO ACTUALLY PAY FOR THAT.
SO THAT'S CERTAINLY AN OPPOSITE, YOU KNOW, AN OPTION FOR PETALUMA.
UM, ALTHOUGH AGAIN, I AGREE WITH ROGER, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL A HARD SELL.
UM, UH, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING, SOMETHING'S GOTTA HAPPEN.
I MEAN, I KNOW THAT THE, UM, THE THEATER SQUARE PRUNING RECENTLY IS JUST A DISASTER.
IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT OAK TREES AND SYCAMORES, AND THEY'RE ALL LOLLIPOPS, THEY'RE ALL CUT BELOW THE, THE SECOND FLOOR WINDOWS.
UH, IT IS JUST, I DON'T EVEN UN I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THAT HAPPENS OR HOW THE CITY ALLOWS THAT TO HAPPEN.
UM, ESPECIALLY IT'S, IT'S JUST, IT'S BEYOND ME.
AND, AND IT SEEMS TO BE AN EPIDEMIC IN THIS TOWN, UM, THAT IS JUST WALKING HERE FROM, UH, FROM MY OFFICE AND ON THE CORNER OF, OF WESTERN AND, AND, AND HOWARD THERE IS JUST THAT WHATEVER IT IS ACROSS FROM ACME BURGER, BUT THEY'VE A, THEY'VE GOT, THEY'VE GOT CREPE MYRTLE PLANTED WHERE CREPE MYRTLES HAVE NO PLACE, NO, NO BUSINESS BEING, AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE CUT DOWN TO EIGHT FEET TALL.
UM, AND SO, AND, AND I DON'T, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE THINKING.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE, THE, THE, THE, UM, THE IMPETUS TO DO THAT.
AND SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S JUST, IT'S A LOT OF EDUCATION.
AND SO ALL THOSE THINGS, AGAIN, ARE, YOU KNOW, IS MONEY AND TIME AND EFFORT.
BUT, UM, THE CITY, THE CITY HAS TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
UM, AND, UM, I WAS, THERE WAS, GO AHEAD.
WELL, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, YOU KNOW, AT THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS MEETING, I HIGHLIGHTED THE, THE TREE TECHNICAL MANUAL AS I UNDER, AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND, WE DON'T HAVE A FINAL DRAFT ON THE WEBSITE OR WHERE DO WE LOCATE THAT? WOULD THAT HELP WITH THIS AT ALL? OR WHAT IS THE KIND OF GUIDANCE WE COULD POINT TO AS A CITY FOR LANDSCAPERS? AND I'M SURE PARKS AND INTERNAL STAFF HAVE THEIR OWN GUIDANCE, BUT YEAH, AS FAR AS THE MANUAL GOES, IT WENT TO PLANNING BASIS REALLY BASED ON WHAT OUR CODES ARE.
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I'D HAVE TO ASK WHERE THEY WOULD PLACE IT FOR REFERENCE, IF I'M BEING HONEST.BUT YEAH, I WOULDN'T, LIKE, IT WOULDN'T NORMALLY SIT ON THE PARKS AND RECREATION WEBSITE.
SO, BECAUSE IT'D BE, PROBABLY WOULDN'T MAKE THE MOST SENSE, BUT I, I JUST DON'T, I DON'T KNOW DARREN WELL, AND, AND I'M WONDERING, ONCE WE HAVE THAT DOCUMENT, IF THAT CAN BE TIED INTO POLICY, ESPECIALLY.
YEAH, WHENEVER I SEE THE CREPE MYRTLES, CREPE MYRTLES, WHEN THEY'RE ALLOWED TO GET BIG, WHEN THEY'RE ALLOWED TO GET BIG AND BROAD, THEY LOOK A LOT NICER.
BUT WHEN THEY'RE KEPT TO THAT TINY SIZE, IT REALLY GETS ON MY NERVES.
SO I'M WONDERING IF, IF WE CAN, AND I'LL ASK ABOUT THAT TO SEE IF WE CAN GET MOVEMENT ON THE TREE TECHNICAL MANUAL AND THEN TRY TO INTEGRATE THAT INTO, WELL, THE TREE TECHNICAL MANUAL IS THE PURVIEW OF THIS COMMITTEE THAT'S IN YOUR ENABLING RESOLUTION.
SO WHEN YOU WANNA UPDATE IT, IT'S UP TO THIS COMMITTEE'S PURVIEW TO UPDATE IT.
SO IT STARTS AND ENDS AT OUR COMMITTEE.
IT'S IN YOUR ENABLING RESOLUTION THAT IT'S YOUR PURVIEW.
NO, I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT IT WAS DONE.
UM, IT IS, SO THERE IS A FINAL, BUT THE AMENDMENTS TO IT COME FROM THIS COMMITTEE BECAUSE THE PURVIEW OF IT FALLS TO THIS COMMITTEE.
THEN I WOULD SAY THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO DISCUSS THIS, UM, IN OUR DECEMBER MEETING AND ACTUALLY THINK ABOUT UPDATING IT AND BRINGING IT UP.
SO I'VE GOT A QUESTION ABOUT THE TECHNICAL MANUAL.
DOES THAT, UM, GIVE RECOMMENDATIONS TO, UH, NEW LANDSCAPES OF WHAT THEIR TREE SELECTION AND OTHER PLANTING SHOULD BE? NO.
THE WAY THE MANUAL IS WRITTEN AT THIS POINT, AND MAYBE I'LL SEND A COPY OF THE ONE THAT THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS HAD PUT THROUGH BEFORE, UM, IS BASED ON THE CITY CODES, THE IZO AND THE MUNI CODES AS THEY SIT NOW.
SO IF IT'S A PLANNING, IF THERE IS RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE IZO, THEN YES, BUT IT'S 100% BASED ON WHAT WAS THERE.
BECAUSE IF IT WENT AGAINST IZO OR MUNI CODE, THEN IT WOULD BE USELESS TO, FOR, FOR THE CITY.
SO THE INTENT WAS THAT WHEN THE NEW TPO AND THE URBAN FORESTRY MANAGEMENT PLAN CAME TO PLACE IN THIS COMMITTEE WOULD PROBABLY UPDATE IT AGAIN.
AND AT THAT POINT, PROBABLY DO SOME FORM OF ANNUAL, YOU KNOW, JUST REVIEW AND UPDATE.
BUT I'D HAVE, YOU KNOW, EACH CHAT, I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT IT.
EACH CHAPTER IS A PRETTY LENGTHY DOCUMENT.
WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE RIGHT TIME TO TALK ABOUT THIS, BUT I WAS, UH, REVIEWING THE NOTES FROM THE LAST MEETING AND THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THE CHICK-FIL-A LANDSCAPING AND, AND HOW WE ASKED THEM TO GO BACK AND, UM, RE-LOOK AT, AT THE SELECTION OF PLANTS.
AND I THINK THAT, UM, THAT, UM, DARREN WAS COMMENTING ON IT, AND I JUST WONDERED WHERE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THERE'S A NEW, UM, DEVELOPMENT WHERE THEY GET THEIR, HOW DO THEY CHOOSE THEIR PLANT PALETTE? AND, AND THE REASON IT'S, I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS WAS, UM, JOHN, I, I WAS TALKING TO JOHN TRIPS ABOUT THE COAST LIVE OAKS THAT I, I SEE SO MANY OF THEM IN TROUBLE FROM SUDDEN LOOK OAK DEATH AND OTHER PROBLEMS. AND HE SAID, WELL, I WANNA SEED SOME DATA ON IT.
SO I WENT WALKING ALONG LYNCH CREEK AND, AND COUNTED, UM, 30 TREES BETWEEN BREWSTERS AND PAYIN, AND THEY'RE ALL IN STAGES OF DYING.
AND FROM SUDDEN OAK DEATH, I, I, I BELIEVE WE DID THAT WALK AND I THINK YOU WERE THERE, CINDY WITH MM-HMM.
AND, UH, THEY'VE PUT IN SOME NEW, UM, PLANTINGS.
THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL NEXT TO THAT DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING IN NEXT TO CLOVER.
AND A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE TREES THAT THEY CHOSE ARE, ARE COAST LIVE OAKS, WHICH, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE RIGHT ADJACENT TO THESE TREES THAT ARE ALL INFECTED.
AND SO I'M JUST WONDERING HOW, HOW THE DECISION IS MADE.
THE SAME THING IS TRUE ALONG THE RIVER NEXT TO THE NEW, UM, APARTMENT BUILDINGS THAT ARE, UM, JUST BEING COMPLETED.
THEY'RE ALL COASTLINE OAKS AGAIN, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S THIS AREA WHERE THEY, THEY'RE NOT DOING WELL.
SO I'M JUST WONDERING HOW, HOW THE, HOW THOSE DECISIONS ARE MADE.
SO JUST QUICKLY, BECAUSE THIS IS THE UPDATE FROM THE COMMUNICATION COMMITTEE IS NOT REALLY THE APPROPRIATE PLACE TO ASK THE QUESTION, BUT THAT IS A DESIGN STANDARDS, LIKE WE WERE, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD TO US AS A PLANNING FUNCTIONALITY.
SO WHEN ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT GOES UP, THEY GET THOSE STANDARDS.
AND I THINK IT WAS EXPLAINED TO US THAT THEY NEED TO UPDATE THOSE.
THEY ARE OUTTA DAY AND THAT'S WHAT THEY WANNA DO.
SO, I MEAN, THAT'S PART OF IT.
BUT AS FAR AS LOOKING AT THE AREA AROUND TO SEE WHAT VEGETATION OR PLANTS ARE INFECTED AND PLANNING AGAINST, AND I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT.
UM, BUT YEAH, JUST, YOU KNOW, QUICKLY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IT COMES THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCESS.
UM, JUST TO WRAP THAT UP, I WAS GONNA SAY THAT'S WHAT WE LEARNED IN THE CHICK DE, UH, CHICK-FIL-A DEVELOPMENT, IS THAT WE NEEDED DESIGN GUIDELINES ABOUT TREES, UH, OR HAVE THOSE BE UPDATED.
AND THE TREE TECHNICAL MANUAL IS ON THE OLD GRANICUS SITE.
I WAS JUST SAYING I COULDN'T FIND IT.
IT'S ON THE OLD GRANICUS SITE.
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THERE'S ANY OTHER, ALRIGHT.UM, OUR RECOMMENDATION TO ESTABLISH AD HOC COMMITTEE FOR THE ARBOR DAY CELEBRATION 2024.
UM, I KNOW THIS IS, THIS IS IMPORTANT TO, TO ALL OF US AND MOSTLY TO CINDY.
'CAUSE WE'D LIKE TO PUT TOGETHER SOMETHING THAT THE CITY COULD DO, UM, AND THIS COMMITTEE COULD DO.
WE'VE TRADITIONALLY TAKEN OFF, UM, OWNERSHIP OF THIS AND, UM, JUST HAVE SOME TIME TO PUT SOMETHING THOUGHTFUL AND MEANINGFUL TOGETHER.
SO, YEAH, AND I, YOU KNOW, I PUT, I ASKED TO PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA ONLY BECAUSE IN THE LAST YEAR WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT IT, THERE WAS A LOT, UM, AT THAT TIME THAT THE COMMITTEE WAS REALLY EXCITED FOR DARREN.
YOU'RE LOOKING AND SMILING AT ME.
I'M TR UM, TRIABLE, YOU KNOW, LIKE THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT.
AND IT'S JUST THAT, YOU KNOW, TRADITIONALLY THE IDEAS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT BY MY POSITION TO THIS COMMITTEE SAYING, HEY, THESE ARE OUR OPTIONS.
WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SUPPORT? AND I JUST FELT LIKE THEY WANTED, THERE WAS A WANT FOR MORE OWNERSHIP OF ARBOR DAY AND WHAT THE CITY DOES TO CELEBRATE IT.
SO JUST BRING, BRINGING IT TO THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO SEE IS THERE INTEREST TO CREATE AN AD HOC, TO REALLY KIND OF HELP FORM AN EVENT, OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THAT IS, WHATEVER YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY'S INTERESTED IN.
IF NOT, AND YOU THINK THAT IT'S JUST BETTER THAT I BRING OPTIONS TO YOU OF WHAT WE SHOULD DO FOR THE CELEBRATION, THAT'S OKAY TOO.
BUT I WANTED TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION BEFORE IT TURNS TO NEW YEAR.
AND WE HAVE NO TIME TO PLAN ANYTHING BECAUSE RIGHT.
IT, IT'S ALREADY GONNA, YOU KNOW, GONNA BE DECEMBER HERE SHORTLY.
SO REALLY OPEN TO ANY SUGGESTIONS.
BUT I AM RECOMMENDING THAT IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THIS EVENT, UM, AND TO PLAN SOMETHING WITH MY SUPPORT, THEN TO CREATE AN AD HOC TO WORK ON THAT.
UNLESS THERE'S ANY OTHER COMMENTS FOR OR AGAINST, I WOULD JUST, I, I LOVE THAT IDEA.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M THINKING, TRYING TO TAKE MORE ON MY PLATE, BUT I WOULD LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK WITH OTHER MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE ABOUT WHAT'S POSSIBLE, UH, WHAT GROUPS COULD BE REACHED OUT TO, AND MAYBE, YOU KNOW, BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING GET A FEASIBILITY IDEA OF DO WE HAVE A GOOD IDEA THAT'S GETTING TRACTION AND THEN WORK WITH STAFF.
UM, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A, A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.
AND SO PROCESS, DO WE ASK IF THERE'S PEOPLE THAT WANNA BE MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE WANT TO BE ON AN AD HOC? I THINK YOU COULD MAYBE DO A STRAW POLL JUST TO SEE IF THERE'S INTEREST FIRST.
SO, AND I KNOW DARREN IS
SO THEN I GUESS THEN TO ASK FOR A RECOMMENDATION FOR A MOTION TO FORM AN AD HOC COMMITTEE, AND THEN A RECOMMENDATION FOR A MOTION TO FORM AD HOC COMMITTEE FOR OUR DAY CELEBRATION 2024.
I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION AND WE'LL BE PICKED MEMBERS AFTER THIS MOTION.
DO WE HAVE ALL IN FAVOR? THAT'S UNANIMOUS.
NOW AS FAR AS THE QUESTIONS FORMING THE MEMBERS OR IF THERE'S INTERESTED MEMBERS CHAIR FORM B, UM, I WOULD ASK IF THERE'S ANY MEMBERS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN BEING ON THIS AD HOC, I'LL, I'LL RECUSE MYSELF UNTIL EVERYBODY ELSE HAS HAD A CHANCE TO SAY, JUST BECAUSE I'M ALREADY ON ONE AND, AND I'M GONNA GIVE EVERYBODY ELSE A CHANCE TO SERVE.
SO THAT MAKES THREE OF US SO GREAT.
AND I'LL JUST SAY, I'M NOT TRYING TO RECUSE ANY RESPONSIBILITY HERE.
I SEE THIS AS WORKING WITH THE AD HOC, SO YOU'LL BE WORKING WITH ME.
'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE GONNA WANT ME.
WELL, NO, I'M, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA BE ON IT.
I JUST WANTED TO GIVE EVERYBODY ELSE A CHANCE TO DO THAT, UM, BEFORE I SAID SO.
UM, AND THEN, UM, I UNDERSTAND WE CAN HAVE THREE CIVILIANS BE WITH US THEN.
WE CAN, UM, WILL YOU SEND US AN EMAIL SORT OF TOGETHER? YES, I WILL.
UM, ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, RECOMMENDATION ON KENTUCKY STREET TREE SPECIES REPLACEMENT AT CROSSWALK.
UH, WE HAD, UM, A NICE PRESENTATION FOR KEN AT, UM, AT OUR, OUR, OUR, UM, GROUP MEETING LAST WEEK.
AND, UM, WE HAD LEFT IT TO, UM, FOR THIS COMMITTEE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR STREET TREES.
AND, UM, I'LL JUST START THE DISCUSSION.
I, I KNOW THAT, UM, I HAD SAID LAST WEEK AS FAR AS THE, UM, PIST, UH, WOULD BE A GOOD ONE BECAUSE THERE'S ALREADY SO MANY.
IT'S JUST SORT OF CONTINUATION AND, AND, UM, OF SPECIES ON THE STREET.
BUT THEN WALKING THE STREET AS I DO ALMOST EVERY DAY, UM, IT REALLY IS AN AD HOC OF AN AD HOC.
IT'S A, IT'S A HOC OF, UM, UH, THE PEAR, WHICH ARE PROBABLY ALL GONNA, THE REST OF THEM ARE GONNA, ARE GONNA DECLINE BECAUSE THAT, THAT TREE TRADITIONALLY IS JUST, IT'S JUST NOT A GREAT URBAN TREE.
UM, EVEN THOUGH IT'S, IT WAS THOUGHT 20 YEARS AGO TO BE SORT OF THE PERFECT STREET TREE, BUT IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST PROVED ITSELF OTHERWISE.
UM, MUCH LIKE THE LIQUID BER, WHICH WAS ALSO A, A FAVORITE TREE, WHICH, WHICH IS ALSO NOW TAKEN OFF EVERYBODY'S LIST.
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THAT, UM, AMY'S HAS PLANTED, UH, UM, UH, THIS, IT'S THE SAME, I FORGET THE NAME OF THE TREE.SORRY, MY MIND JUST WENT BLANK.
UM, THEY PLANTED A NICE ONE IN THEIR, THEY'RE BOXED OUT IN FRONT OF THEIR, THEIR OFFICES, WHICH I, I RE, IT JUST HAPPENED LIKE TWO DAYS AGO.
UM, BUT THERE ARE PROBABLY 11, 10 OR 11 PEARS THAT ARE GONNA BE NEEDING REPLACEMENT.
UM, THERE'S ALSO A BUNCH OF THOSE RED OAKS IN DISPERSED IN THERE, WHICH I ALSO JUST PERSONALLY FEEL IS A, IS A, IS A POINTLESS STREET TREE WHEN YOU HAVE, UM, WHEN YOU HAVE A SPACE FOR A GOOD CANOPY TREE, IT'S JUST, THAT'S JUST NOT, DOESN'T FIT THE BILL.
UM, AND SO THERE IS ROOM THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY PUT, UM, THE WESTERN SYCAMORE ON THOSE, ON THOSE TWO THINGS.
THE, THE BENEFIT OF THE WESTERN SYCAMORE A, IT'S HABITAT, UM, B IT GROWS TALL AND NARROW MUCH MORE, MORE SO THAN THE, THAN THE EXOTIC SYCAMORES THAT WE, THAT WE TYPICALLY SEE PLANTED AS TREE TREES.
AND, UM, I THINK TO MIX THAT IN, IF, IF WE TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO MIX THAT TREE IN WITH OUR DOWNTOWN CANOPY, I THINK IT'S A GOOD, IT'S FAST GROWING.
THE PROBLEM IS THAT IT'S NOT ACTUALLY ON OUR APPROVED STREET TREE LIST, BUT WE AS A COMMITTEE CAN ACTUALLY MAKE THAT DECISION.
SO, UM, AND THAT'S WHY IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE GET THIS, OUR NEW APPROVED STREET TREE LIST UPDATED, UM, WHICH IS, WHICH IS ON MY LITTLE AD HOC, BUT ALSO I'LL SAY THAT I REACHED OUT TO MY, THE AD HOC, AND I HAVE BILL REINHARDT AND CINDA, UM, GILLIAN ARE ON BOTH LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS, AND THEY BOTH AGREED THAT THE PLATINUMS RACEMOSA WOULD BE A, A PERFECTLY SUITED TREE FOR THAT SPACE.
UM, AND ALSO, UM, UM, SNOW MAR ARBOR, ZACH, I FORGET HIS LAST NAME, ALSO AGREED THAT THE, THE PLATINUMS RACEMOSA WOULD BE A GOOD TREE FOR THAT SPACE.
SO I'LL JUST LEAVE IT THERE, OPEN IT UP FOR COMMENT.
CAN WE CONFIRM AGAIN HOW MANY PAIRS ARE ON THAT BLOCK OF KENTUCKY? I COUNTED THEM TODAY.
WELL, NOT INCLUDING THE TWO THAT ARE ALREADY GONE ON JUST THAT BLOCK.
YOU KNOW, UH, I'VE GOT A LITTLE, THE, THE PLAN THAT KEN PROVIDED, AND IT LOOKS LIKE, AND, AND I CAN PASS THIS AROUND, BUT IN ORDER TO, HE WANTS TO, TO CROSS THAT FLUSH WITH THE SIDEWALK.
SO HE, HE, HE'S BUILDING UP A RAMP OR A CROWN, AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT, HE MOVES THE CURB OUT.
AND IF, IF WE EXTEND THE, THE TREE TREE WELL TO THE CURB, YOU GET ANOTHER 40% OF, OF AREA.
AND, AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE WORTH CONSIDERING.
UM, IT, AND THEN I THINK I AGREE, I THINK SOME, SOME AC THIS IS A GATEWAY IN A SENSE.
IT'S A, YOU KNOW, SOME ACCENT TREE, LIKE A WARE WOULD BE A GREAT SOLUTION, I THINK.
BUT HERE'S THE, HERE'S MY DOODLE.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY? WELL, GO AHEAD, BILL.
UM, MY FAVORITE TREE, SO I'M ON BOARD, BUT, UH, AND YEAH, AND I, I LIKE THAT YOU, WE'VE, YOU KNOW, HAD A CHANCE TO TAKE A CLOSER LOOK.
I THINK UNIFORMITY IS, UH, SOMETHING THAT I BELIEVE IN.
SO IF WITH SOME OF THE VARIATION THAT'S ALREADY OCCURRED THERE, AND THE FACT THAT IT IS A BIT OF A GATEWAY MAKES SENSE TO, YOU KNOW, WE COULD GO FOR, UH, THE TREE THAT WORKS BEST FOR THAT LOCATION.
THE OTHER CONCERN I HAD A LITTLE BIT WAS THE SIZE OF THE PLANTER.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE CITY WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, WHEN THEY REWORK THAT, MAYBE ENLARGE IT A BIT, BUT, UM, I THINK IT, I THINK IT COULD WORK WITHIN THE EXISTING PLANTER.
I JUST WAS, UH, IDEALLY IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIGGER.
WELL, I, THE QUESTION THOUGH IS, IS IF HE HAS TO DO THAT WITH A CURB BECAUSE OF THE RAMP ON THIS SIDE OF THE STREET, WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET? UM, THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET HAS TWO CONCRETE AWNINGS, UM, THAT COME OUT TO THE CURB.
AND THERE'S REALLY, THERE'S NO PLACE FOR STREET TREES.
ALTHOUGH I, I WOULD SAY I WAS IN PALO ALTO THIS WEEK, AND WE TOOK SOME PHOTOGRAPHS, UM, WHERE THEY'VE, UM, THIS IS UNRE, WELL, IT'S KIND OF RELATED.
UM, THEY'RE, I DON'T KNOW, BILL, I THINK YOUR MOTHER WAS INVOLVED IN THIS, BUT, UM, PROBABLY 20, 30 YEARS AGO, THEY REPLANTED THEIR DOWNTOWN WITH SYCAMORES.
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SYCAMORES ARE ACTUALLY NOT PLANTED IN THE SIDEWALK OR IN, UM, IN, IN PLANT.THE PLANTERS ARE ACTUALLY IN THE STREET.
AND SO THEY'VE TAKEN UP PARKING SPACES AND, AND CREATED SPACE WITHIN THE ASPHALT TO PLANT TREES.
SO, I MEAN, IT'S, IT WAS BRILLIANT IN THAT, THAT PETALUMA SIDEWALKS ARE ALREADY TOO NARROW, I BELIEVE.
AND SO TO TAKE THEM UP, YOU KNOW, TO, TO ADD MORE TREES, WHICH IS ADMIRABLE.
BUT, UH, I'D RATHER TAKE UP PARKING SPACES PERSONALLY.
THEY DO THE SAME THING IN NOVATO.
I NOTICED THAT ON THEIR MAIN STREET THERE.
AND I WILL SAY THAT JUST TALKING TO, TO KEN THAT HE'S TAKING, MAKING EVERY EFFORT TO MAKE THIS, UM, TREE WALL AS LARGE AS POSSIBLE.
SO I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYTHING TO, TO COMPLAIN ABOUT OR WORRY ABOUT THERE.
DO WE NEED TO GET THAT TO KEN? IF YOU WANT TO? SURE.
I MEAN, THE QUESTION, DO YOU WANT TO EXPAND THE TREE WALL NOW? I, I THINK KEN IS MAKING EVERY EFFORT TO DO SO.
SO IF YOU WANT TO, IF YOU WANT TO WEIGH AND, AND PROVIDE HIM WITH THAT DOCUMENT.
I THINK THIS RECOMMENDATION IS JUST ON THE TREE SPECIES.
THIS IS ON JUST ON THE TREE SPECIES INDEPENDENT.
HE'S, HE'S OPEN TO ANY SUGGESTION THAT WE HAVE.
SO THERE, THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, BLANK, UM, SPOTS ON THAT, ON THAT STREET AND, AND ON ON KENTUCKY GOING NORTH.
SO ARE WE LOOKING AT PLANTING THOSE AS WELL? THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S AN EFFORT UNDERWAY TO MAP THAT MAPS ARE, WE CALL GHOST TREES.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S HAPPENING, BUT IT'S NOT PART OF THIS EFFORT.
SO, BUT YES, IT'S BEING TALKED ABOUT THIS, THIS IS JUST LOOKING AT THE TWO ON THE, ON THE CORNER THERE.
SO I, I WOULD SAY THAT, UM, CAN WE TAKE A VOTE AND ACTUALLY SURE.
A RECOMMENDATION FOR SPECIES, A RECOMMENDATION FOR SPECIES.
I'LL MAKE THE MOTION FOR A RECOMMENDATION OF SPECIES OF THE WESTERN SYCAMORE.
ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT, IT'S UNANIMOUS.
THIS COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS THE PLASS RACE, MOST OF THE WESTERN SYCAMORE TO REPLACE THE TWO TREES AT THE PRIDE CROSSWALK ON KENTUCKY STREET AND EXPAND THE, OH, AND EXPAND THE, UM, TREE WELL AS, AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
AND CHAIR FORMBY, JUST MAYBE TO REQUEST A BACKUP SPECIES, BECAUSE THAT ONE IS NOT PARTICULARLY ON THE CURRENTLY APPROVED STREET TREE LIST, IN CASE THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO PLANT.
IS THERE A SECOND SPECIES? IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THIS AS, UM, YES, WE COULD DO THAT.
MY UNDERSTANDING, UM, WHEN I RECOMMENDED THE, THE WESTERN SYCAMORE FOR THE NORTH RIVER, NORTH WATER STREET PLANTING, THAT, UM, AND THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED IS THAT AS A, AS A MEMBER, I WASN'T EVEN CHAIR THEN, BUT AS A MEMBER OF THIS COMMITTEE, I COULD APPROVE THE SELECTION OF THOSE TREES.
SO THE OPSIS THAT'S ALONG THE RIVER, WHICH REPLACED THE CREPE MYRTLES, WHICH WERE ON THE PLAN AND APPROVED BY THE CITY, AND THE, UM, THE MORE EXOTICS, THERE'S THESE LIKE SYCAMORE THAT WERE APPROVED FOR THE, THE WEST SIDE OF THE STREET AND THROUGH THE CORRIDOR, UM, REPLACED WITH THE WESTERN SYCAMORE.
SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS EXPLAINED TO ME THAT I COULD MAKE THAT DECISION JUST AS A LONE COMMITTEE MEMBER.
SO I'M ASSUMING THAT WE AS A FULL COMMITTEE COULD MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION AND MAKE THAT DECISION TO, TO ADD THAT TREE.
AND I KNOW WHO TOLD YOU THAT, SO I JUST, I, ON THE OFF CHANCE, HAVE YOU, YOU TOLD ME THAT, WELL, THAT WAS IN THE PLANNING WHEN YOU ASKED, THAT WAS THE PLANNING DOCUMENTS, RIGHT? UHHUH
SO YOU CAN MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ABSOLUTELY.
BUT AS FAR AS DECISIONS ON STREET TREES, AND THAT WAS, IN MY MEMORY, THAT WASN'T ON THE STREET, RIGHT? THAT WAS IN THE ACTUAL, UM, NO, THEY'RE THE STREET TREES.
WELL, MAYBE SO, BUT THEY'RE PLANTED NOW.
UM, AND THEY'RE NOT ON OUR APPROVED LIST.
SO WHERE THERE WAS ALSO THE OPTION THAT WE HAVE, UM, WITH HEATHER MAKING A, UM, A, UM, AN AMENDMENT, AN AMENDMENT, A SHORTTERM AMENDMENT, AMENDMENT UNTIL WE CAN, WE ARE GONNA DO THE APPROVED STREET TREE LIST AS PART OF THE NEW TPO, UM, WHICH IS IN THE PIPELINE, WHICH, WHICH WILL BE PROBABLY IN JANUARY, FEBRUARY.
BUT UNTIL THEN, UM, AND THESE, THESE TREES COULD CERTAINLY WAIT UNTIL THEN TO GET PLANTED.
BUT, UM, UNTIL THEN, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD PURSUE FURTHER TO GET THAT, THAT, UM, WELL, WE CAN LEAVE IT AND IF THERE'S AN ISSUE, HE CAN ASK US FOR ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION.
THAT'S IF, IF THERE'S, YEAH, I MEAN, AS FAR AS SECOND, I JUST DON'T WANT TO MAKE A SECOND CHOICE.
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WHATEVER.THAT'S, I JUST WANTED IN CASE, BUT THANK YOU CINDY.
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THEN, UM, WITH THAT, I'LL MOVE ON TO COMMITTEE COMMENTS.ANYBODY MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE WANNA MAKE COMMENTS? GO AHEAD.
I WAS JUST POINTING AT ROGER FOR PLANNING.
YEAH,
A LOT OF PEOPLE, UH, IN THE AUDIENCE, UH, AND THE, THE OVERLAY ORDINANCE PASSED, UH, AND IN THE HOTEL AS PART OF THAT ENVELOPE.
SO THE HOTEL IS PROCEEDING AHEAD.
I MEAN, YOU STILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE HOTEL SEPARATELY, BUT IT'S KIND OF IN THE, UH, IN THE PIPELINE.
UM, AND IT, IT WAS THIS, THE, THE OVERLAY DISTRICT IS STILL HARD FOR BOTH DARREN AND I TO UNDERSTAND WHAT ARE THE ACHIEVES AND WILL AT WORK AND WHAT WILL HAPPEN.
BUT IT, IT BASICALLY IS A POCKETS OF SIX STORY, POTENTIALLY SIX STORY RESIDENTIAL MIXED USE PROJECT.
UM, NOT IN MY MIND, NOT VERY WELL TIED INTO ANY OF OVERALL PLANNING DOCUMENT OR OVERALL STREET SCAPE DOCUMENT OR ANYTHING THAT MAKES IT PART OF THE CITY.
IT'S JUST, UH, SO THE QUESTION IS, WILL, WILL IT CREATE ANYTHING OR WILL IT HAPPEN, OR IS IT JUST A KIND OF A NAIVE PROPOSAL? WELL, AND, AND JUST TO GIVE THE OUTPUT FROM THE KIND OF THE BROAD COMMITTEE, I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE SAW IT AS A PILOT FOR TESTING, MORE FLEXIBILITY WITH BUILDING FORMS IN AN ATTEMPT TO FOLLOW THE OLD GENERAL PLAN AND WHAT'S UPCOMING WITH INTENSIFYING DOWNTOWN.
I THINK THE ARGUMENT WAS MADE THAT THIS WAS KIND OF A PILOT UNTIL WE GET TO THE GENERAL PLAN WHERE WE CAN EITHER EXPAND ON THIS, DECIDE IF IT WORKED AND YET, AND THEN THE HOTEL WILL BE TALKED ABOUT, UH, SEPARATELY.
THE OTHER THING THAT WAS HARD FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT TO GET HIGHER DENSITY HOUSING, UM, SIX STORY, YOU, YOU NEED TO BUILD ENOUGH UNITS TO, TO MAKE IT PENCIL, AND THAT'S THREE OR 400 UNITS IS, I'VE TALKED TO SEVERAL DEVELOPERS, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED A MINIMUM OF THREE OR 400 UNITS TO PAY FOR THE ELEVATOR SYSTEM, THE FIRE SAFETY SYSTEMS, AND TO INCLUDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS SUBSIDIZED AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS PART OF THE PROJECT.
SO THREE OR 400 UNITS AT 50 UNITS, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S SEVERAL, THREE TO FOUR ACRES.
AND ALL THESE PARCELS ARE LESS, YOU KNOW, ARE SMALL.
AND SO YOU HAVE TO AMASS A WHOLE BUNCH OF PARCELS AND YOU'RE END UP WITH A VERY BIG PROJECT.
IT'S NOT JUST A LITTLE PARCEL.
IT IS GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, HALF THE AREA IS GONNA BE ONE, ONE PROJECT.
I, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A, THIS IS A LARGER CONVERSATION, UM, NOT FOR THIS COMMITTEE, BUT I APPRECIATE THE UPDATE.
AND, UM, I'M SORRY YOU WERE THERE TILL TWO 30 YESTERDAY,
ANYWAY, UM, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE COMMITTEE COMMENTS? YEAH, I JUST HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.
UM, SO, UM, ABOUT THE URBAN FORESTRY, UM, PROGRAM WITH BEN ANDERSON.
SO HE, HE'S GOING AROUND, HE'S DOING A, UM, INVENTORY OF WHAT WE HAVE.
IS THAT THE MAIN THING HE'S BEEN HIRED FOR? I'M SORRY.
SO GENERALLY IN COMMENTS, THE QUESTIONS YOU WRITE, SO I WOULDN'T RESPOND TO QUESTIONS.
I'M HAPPY IF YOU, HE IS WORKING ON INVENTORY JUST TO SHORTLY ANSWER YOU, UM, EBERLY.
BUT IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, YOU CAN ALWAYS EMAIL ME AND I'M ALWAYS HAPPY TO ANSWER ANYTHING.
SO ON COMMITTEE COMMENTS, WE GENERALLY GIVE COMMENTS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON IN THE CITY OR IF YOU'RE ON A AD, UM, ON A LIAISON.
SO LIKE FOR ROGER FOR PLANNING OR MARYANNE FOR, UM, RMPC.
BUT YES, HE IS DOING AN INVENTORY IN PUBLIC SPACES AND IN THE MAJOR ARTERIALS.
UM, WELL, I GUESS JUST ONE COMMENT I HAVE IS ABOUT, I WAS HAPPY TO HEAR PERSONALLY FROM THAT RELIEF IS EXPANDING THEIR PLANT PALETTE.
'CAUSE IT GOES BACK TO MY CONCERNS ABOUT THESE MONOCULTURES OF, I KNOW I SAY PROBABLY SEEM LIKE I'M KIND OF OVERLY FOCUSED ON THE COASTLINE OAK, BUT IT JUST, YOU KNOW, I SEE SO MANY OF THEM IN TROUBLE.
SO I'M HAPPY TO SEE THAT, UM, THEY'RE TAKING INTO EFFECT CLIMATE CHANGE AND THE NORTHERN MIGRATION OF, OF SPECIES, IT'S, IT'S GOING TO BE TAKING PLACE.
SO WE'LL HAVE PLANTS CHOICES THAT ARE HOPEFULLY BETTER ADAPTED TO OUR CHANGING CLIMATE.
UM, WITH THAT, I, OH, GO AHEAD, BILL.
UH, I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT, UH, SOME OF THE DIFFERENT, UH, INITIATIVES GOING ON.
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WELL, I DON'T WANNA MISSTATE IT.IT'S, UH, THE SLOW, THE FAST DOWN ALONG WITH, UM, YEAH, SOME OF THE DIFFERENT SORT OF QUICK BUILD PROJECTS TO, TO HELP WITH THAT PROBLEM.
AND, UH, REALLY EXCITING TO SORT OF CONSIDER HOW WE COULD SLOW TRAFFIC AND GET MORE PEDESTRIANS AND PEOPLE ON BIKES OUT AND WITH, AND WITH THE SORT OF POSSIBILITY OF GROWING OUR CANOPY TO HELP WITH THAT SORT OF ENDEAVOR.
UM, I WAS, AND THEN WE'RE, WE'RE JUST MENTIONING STREET SCAPES AND, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE DIFFERENT IMPROVEMENTS, UH, ALTER THE WAY THE STREETS LOOK A BIT, RIGHT? THERE'S SOME ENGINEERING THAT, UM, WITH THE BULB OUTS, THERE'S SOME ADDITION OF BIKE LANES AND THINGS, AND I KNOW D STREET IS BEING CONSIDERED, UH, YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT TO TAKE PARKING AWAY TO ADD A BIKE LANE.
AND THOSE, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S ALSO A FAIR NUMBER OF MISSING TREES ON D STREET.
SO I'M JUST SORT OF HEARING A LOT OF INTERESTING CONVERSATIONS AND, UH, I WANTED TO SORT OF RAISE, RAISE AWARENESS AROUND, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A COMMITTEE THAT, UH, TALKS ABOUT THESE THINGS.
AND, UM, SO WHEN IT COMES TO BEAUTIFYING OUR STREETS AND WE, WE SORT OF BRING THE, UH, ATTENTION TO TREES, BUT THERE'S A WHOLE CONVERSATION THAT INVOLVES ENGINEERING AND AND P BACK.
AND IT WAS KIND OF INTERESTING TO BE A PART OF THAT MEETING A FEW WEEKS AGO.
UH, SO JUST KIND OF AN OPEN-ENDED COMMENT THERE.
I HAVE ONE, UH, IT'S REALLY A QUESTION THAT RECENT IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS OF, UH, SMALL TREES HAVE BEEN IMPLANTED ON NORTH PETALUMA BOULEVARD AGAINST THE, UH, WHERE DID THAT COME FROM? IS THAT A, UM, THAT'S SO WE CAN, YOU CAN I THINK EMAIL CINDY ABOUT THAT, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THOSE TREES ARE ON THE APPROVED STREET TREE LIST.
THERE ARE THE ARBUTUS, THE STRAWBERRY TREES, UHHUH
BUT I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING MORE.
I, I WOULD SAY EMAIL CINDY LATER AND, AND GET AN ANSWER YOU WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU RIGHT NOW, ROGER.
I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHY THEY WERE PLANNER OR WHO PLANTED THEM, BUT GO AHEAD AND EMAIL ME AND I WILL DO SOME RESEARCH.
IS IT IN PRIVATE PROPERTY OR IS IT PUBLIC? NO, IT'S, IT'S RIGHT OF AWAY IN FRONT OF THAT, THAT FACTORY DOWN'S WHERE THE SYCAMORES CAME OUT SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
SO THAT'S RIGHT THE RIGHT OF WAY IS IT WOULD'VE BEEN THE PROPERTY OWNER WHO WOULD'VE PLANTED THEM AND THEY PROBABLY CHOSE SOMETHING FROM THEIR PROOF STREET TREE LIST, IS MY GUESS.
BUT I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
SO GO AHEAD AND SEND ME A MESSAGE AND I'LL DO SOME RESEARCH SO I DON'T FORGET.
OH, 'CAUSE WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME, SO, OKAY.
SO I HAVE COMMENTS THAT ARE BASED ON, UM, COMMENTS THAT I'M GETTING FROM, UH, FEEDBACK I'M GETTING FROM, UM, DIFFERENT COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
UM, THEY'RE REALLY WANTING ME TO POINT THEM TO, IT LOOKS LIKE, UM, THE SECTION OF IEO 17 TO GET INFORMATION ON TREES.
PEOPLE ARE SO CONFUSED ABOUT TREES.
AND SO I THINK ON, ON THE OUTREACH COMMITTEE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.
BUT I, I JUST WANNA URGE AGAIN THAT IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE MORE OF A PRESENCE SOMEHOW A PAGE ON OUR PAGE FOR THE TREE AD HOC, EXCUSE ME, THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON OUR CITY WEBSITE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, JUST A FEW RESOURCES TO POINT THEM TO THAT'S FRIENDLIER.
THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW TO SCROLL THROUGH THE I THOSE CODES.
UM, AND LET'S SEE HERE, UM, I WANTED TO CALL OUT THAT, UM, A REPEATED COMMENTS ABOUT PAULA LANE ACTION NETWORK HAVING A LOT OF TREES UP THERE THAT HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR PROTECTION.
IT'S SOMETHING LIKE THE CITY OWNS THE PROPERTY, DOESN'T OWN THE PROPERTY, THE TITLES.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD HELP GET SOME CLARITY ON THAT, BUT THO THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY.
I DID GO UP THERE MONTHS AGO AND LOOK AT IT.
THERE ARE TREES UP THERE, IT'S OPEN SPACE.
AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING THE TREE COMMITTEE CAN DO TO HELP MAKE SURE THAT THE, THE HEROIC EFFORTS OF THE COMMUNITY TO PRESERVE THAT LAND CAN JUST GET A LITTLE BIT OF HELP.
BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE REALLY LOOKING FOR SOME HELP AND THEY'RE NOT GETTING IT.
THAT MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, REALLY LOW HANGING FRUIT.
WHY NOT DO IT? UM, ALSO, UM, I JUST SAY I DIDN'T, DIDN'T I WANNA POINT TO THE, UM, OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS.
I HOPE THAT EVERYBODY, I APOLOGIZE.
I WASN'T HERE DUE TO, UM, A DEATH IN THE FAMILY AND BEING ON VACATION.
UM, I WOULD REALLY LIKE FOR US ALL TO MAKE SURE WE PUT ON OUR CALENDARS, THESE MEETINGS AND TRY TO SCHEDULE OUR VACATIONS AROUND THEM.
I'M TALKING TO MYSELF ABOUT MYSELF AND I'M TALKING TO EVERYBODY ELSE.
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I TAKE THIS VERY SERIOUSLY AND I THINK WE'VE ALL COMMITTED TO SERVE.AND IT'S REALLY A SHAME WHEN MEETINGS HAVE TO GET CANCELED.
'CAUSE THERE'S NOT A QUORUM WHEN MULTIPLE PEOPLE ARE OUT OF TOWN.
SO I JUST WANTED TO SHOUT THAT OUT.
UM, AND THAT REALLY, OH, AND THEN TWO OTHER COMMENTS.
TREES MISSING AT, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT TO ME.
TREES MISSING AT THE PETALUMA SWIM CENTER ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE POOL, THE PART THAT BORDERS THE STREET.
THERE'S PURPLE PIPE THERE, THERE'S NO TREES.
AND PARENTS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF PARTICULATE MATTER.
'CAUSE THE WHOLE SWIM CENTER JUST BASICALLY HAS A RACETRACK OF CARS ZOOMING AROUND IT ALL DAY LONG.
AND THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE PARTICULATE MATTER OF THEIR KIDS THAT SWIM THERE.
AND MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO ABOUT ENCOURAGING TREES THERE.
UM, SOMEBODY REACHED OUT TO ME AND SAID, HEY, YOU'RE ON THE TREE COMMITTEE.
WHAT ABOUT SOME TREES UP AT HOWARD PARK? UH, OAK HILL PARK AROUND THE BOCCE BALL THING, BECAUSE THEY WANT SHADE UP THERE.
A LOT OF SENIORS PLAY, THEY WANT SOME SHADE THERE.
SO I WANTED TO COVER OFF ON THAT.
AND THEN FINALLY, I'LL SAY SOMETHING I'VE SAID MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS REPEATEDLY, I'M VERY CONCERNED THAT WE DON'T HAVE A TREE ORDINANCE.
AND APPARENTLY FIRST READING OF THE TREE ORDINANCE GOES TO CITY COUNCIL THE VERY FIRST WEEK OF JANUARY.
THEY'RE ASKING FOR A VOTE FOLLOWED BY A SECOND READING AT THE SUBSEQUENT CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
WE HAVE NOT SEEN THAT TREE ORDINANCE TO PUT IT THROUGH AT THE LAST MONTH TO HAVE THE RISK THAT NEXT MONTH OUR MEETING MIGHT GET CANCELED.
AND IT'S ALL RIDING ON ONE MORE MEETING.
WHETHER THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE HAS ANY INPUT INTO OUR TREE ORDINANCE, TO ME IS JUST INEXCUSABLE.
IT'S ACTUALLY REALLY, REALLY BAD MANAGEMENT.
I CARE ABOUT TREES, I CARE ABOUT THE $220,000.
I CARE ABOUT DOING THINGS RIGHT.
AND THE FACT THAT WE DON'T HAVE A TREE ORDINANCE TO LOOK AT LINE BY LINE, GIVEN HOW WE'RE BUSTING OUR BACKS TO FIND OUT HOW TO DO THIS RIGHT, IS A GROSS MISUSE OF ASSETS.
WE'VE ALL STEPPED UP TO VOLUNTEER.
TER I'M SORRY, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE QUICKLY RUNNING OUT AND I, I, I ECHO YOUR SENTIMENT A HUNDRED PERCENT.
BUT, UM, I APPRECIATE THAT I ECHO YOUR SENTIMENT AND, AND I, I I ECHO IT A HUNDRED PERCENT.
SO I JUST HOPE THAT WE CAN GET THE TREE ORDINANCE AND I AGREE.
UM, I WAS RUN THROUGH MY, UM, THING I ALREADY SAID ABOUT THE THEATER SQUARE PRINTING.
UM, I ECHO TARYN ON THE ABSENCE.
I MEAN, TYPICALLY IT'S THREE IN A ROW.
AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ANY SORT OF PROTOCOL, BUT, UM, I WAS TOLD BY JOHN SCHIBS WHEN HE WAS CHAIR THAT BECAUSE I WAS MISSING MEETINGS AND THREE MEETINGS THAT I COULD BE REMOVED FROM THE, FROM THE COMMITTEE.
SO I GUESS WE'VE ALL, WE'VE ALL COMMITTED TO THIS.
UM, AND UM, THEN I'LL PASS IT ON TO CINDY FOR STAFF.
NO, NO, I DIDN'T MEAN TO MAKE A HEAD NOD AND INDICATE ANYTHING.
I'LL GIVE A QUICK UPDATE ON THE RECREATION PARKS COMMISSION.
SO THE LAST MEETING, UH, WAS OUR MAIN FOCUS WAS ON THE INTEGRATED PEST MANAGEMENT, UH, POLICY THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR A WHILE.
THE AD HOC COMMITTEE COMPLETED A DRAFT.
THEY HAD A FEW, UM, ITEMS THAT THEY WANTED TO MAYBE, UH, MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS ON.
AND SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE FORWARDING THAT TO CITY COUNCIL SOON FOR FINAL ADOPTION.
AND THEN TONIGHT WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING, WE'RE GONNA BE HAVING A PRESENTATION FROM RELIEF AGAIN, AND AN AL ANOTHER PRESENTATION ON A CONCEPT OF FOR CLIMATE ADAPTATION AND RESILIENT LANDSCAPES, WHICH I'M REALLY INTERESTED TO SEE.
AND, UM, TALKING ABOUT THE KENNELWORTH, UM, PARK, UM, RENOVATION AND THE ARTWORK THAT'S GOING IN THERE.
SO I'LL JUST GIVE A QUICK UPDATE.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE UFM WORK IS STILL CONTINUING ON, BEN'S WORKING ON IT.
SO THAT, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S STILL OCCURRING.
AND AS FAR AS THE TPO O GOES, I WILL, FULL TRANSPARENCY, UM, PLANNING AND HEATHER WANTED TO COME TO THIS MEETING, BUT WE HAD THE PRESENTATIONS AND TIMING WAS NOT ALLOWED.
SO I HAD SPOKEN TO HER AND I'D ASKED HER TO COME TO DECEMBER SO SHE CAN HAVE THE FULL MEETING TIME AND TO NOT PUT ANYTHING ELSE ON THE AGENDA SO THAT THIS COMMITTEE CAN GIVE IT ITS FULL ATTENTION.
UM, AND HEATHER, I, YOU KNOW, AND YOU KNOW, SHE MADE THE REQUEST AND THAT WAS A DECISION WHEN SPEAKING WITH HOWARD THAT WE DECIDED, UM, THAT THAT WOULD BE OKAY.
AND TARYN, I UNDERSTAND YOUR FRUSTRATION AND DISAPPOINTMENT, AND
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I'M SORRY, I, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE FIRST READING, SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ENOUGH TIME I FEEL LIKE, FOR THIS COMMITTEE TO GIVE FEEDBACK.BUT IF YOU HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS OR THERE'S CONCERNS WITH IT, REACH OUT TO ME.
I CAN TALK TO HEATHER ABOUT IT.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T HAVE A DRAFT TO GIVE YOU.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING I'M HOLDING AND I'M HOLDING BACK.
SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING LIKE I'VE GOT IN MY EMAIL AND I HAVEN'T SENT TO THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
I WANT YOU TO BE AWARE OF THAT AS WELL.
SO IF I HAVE IT, IF THERE'S ANYTHING, I'LL, I'LL SEND IT ON TO YOU AS SOON AS I CAN SO YOU HAVE AS MUCH TIME TO REVIEW AND SUBMIT QUESTIONS TO PLANNING AHEAD OF TIME.
SO, UM, THAT'S JUST KIND OF MY QUICK UPDATES FOR NOW, BUT I KNOW YOU DON'T, I KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE IT.
I DIDN'T MEAN TO DIRECT THIS, UH, MY RANT AT YOU AT ALL.
IT'S JUST, UM, IT'S CRITICAL PIECE OF BUSINESS AND IT'S FALLEN TO THE END AND AT THE LAST MINUTE IT'S NOT YOUR ISSUE, THAT'S FOR SURE.
UM, AND JUST ONE LAST COMMENT.
I, I'VE READ THE CHICO, UM, ORDINANCE IN, IT'S A GOOD ONE.
I'VE SPOKEN TO THEM TOO BECAUSE I MET THEM IN SACRAMENTO AND THEY, IT'S, IT'S A REALLY, AND THEY'RE NONPROFITS TOO.
IT'S REALLY KIND OF A, THERE'S A REALLY NICE SYNERGY IN CHICO.
THEY DO A REALLY NICE JOB THERE.
SO I'M GLAD YOU GUYS GOT TO CONNECT WITH THEM.
UM, IF I MAY, UM, I, SINCE HEATHER WAS SCHEDULED TO, OR WAS PREPARED TO PRESENT TO THIS COMMITTEE TODAY, UM, I WOULD ASK OR REQUEST RESPECTFULLY THAT WE'RE ALL EMAILED A COPY OF THAT DRAFT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, SINCE IT'S, IF IT WAS READY ENOUGH TO BE PRESENTED TODAY, THEN IT'S READY ENOUGH FOR US TO, TO READ.
AND I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF SHE WAS GONNA SEND A COPY.
BUT I CAN ASK HER WHAT SHE HAS AND IF SHE CAN SEND IT ALONG, ABSOLUTELY FINE.
AND I, I WOULD REQUEST THAT IF WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION THAT WE ALL NEED COPIES TO READ AND, AND, 'CAUSE WE CAN'T DO IT IN THIS MEETING, I'LL ASK.
UM, HOWARD, WOULD IT EVER BE, UH, APPROPRIATE TO SCHEDULE IF IT'S READY NOW, AN EMERGENCY MEETING? 'CAUSE I DON'T LIKE, LIKE I WOULD RATHER, I WOULD RATHER TAKE THAT UP LATER.
I WOULD RATHER US ALL READ IT FIRST.
I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF USE IN READING THE DOCUMENT.
AND IT GETS A LOT OF, AND IT'LL MAKE OUR, OUR MEETING IN DECEMBER A LOT MORE PRODUCTIVE.
AND US FEEL A LOT MORE INFORMED.
UM, WITH THAT, UM, I WILL ADJOURN.
MOVE TO ADJOURN? OR CAN I JUST DO THAT?