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GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PETALUMA PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 6TH.
CLERK, CAN YOU PLEASE TAKE ROLE MEYER HERE? BOND KATA.
UM, JUST BEFORE WE JUMP INTO THE AGENDA, I WANTED TO, UM, ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE MEETING WENT REALLY LONG LAST TIME AND TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE LACK OF DECORUM.
UM, AND I THINK THAT OUR COMMITTEE IS GENERALLY RESPECTFUL AND OUR CONVERSATION IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND VALUABLE, BUT I JUST WANNA REMIND EVERYBODY THAT FOCUS VERY FOCUSED COMMENTS ARE IMPORTANT.
WE HAVE QUITE A FEW, UM, WE HAVE THREE IMPORTANT AGENDA ITEMS TONIGHT, AND I DON'T, I KNOW PEOPLE HAD TO LEAVE LAST TIME, IT GOT TOO LATE.
SO IF WE CAN JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE KIND OF FOCUSED IN OUR, UH, FEEDBACK AND MAINTAIN RESPECT TO, TO STAFF AND THE PUBLIC AND EACH OTHER, THAT WOULD BE APPRECIATED.
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MOVING TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON ITEMS OF PUBLIC INTEREST THAT ARE WITHIN THE COMMITTEE'S SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION, AND THAT ARE NOT LISTED ON THE CURRENT AGENDA.PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED UP TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON.
DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF PERSONS WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE.
TIME WILL BE ALLOCATED IN EQUAL SHARES TOTALING NO MORE THAN 15 MINUTES.
AND I HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD RIGHT NOW.
UM, CLERK, WERE THERE OTHER COMMENTS RECEIVED PRIOR TO THE MEETING? NO OTHER COMMENTS WERE RECEIVED FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
[PRESENTATIONS]
PETE GANG.UM, I JUST WANTED TO ANNOUNCE TWO THINGS.
ONE IS THE SECOND ANNUAL PETALUMA HOLIDAY LIGHTED BIKE RIDE, WHICH WILL BE TAKING PLACE ON DECEMBER 22ND.
UM, THE FIRST ONE, THE FIRST RIDE WAS LAST YEAR.
WE EXPECTED 40 OR 50 PEOPLE AND GOT MAYBE 150.
AND SO I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE BIG THIS YEAR.
UM, THE RIDE STARTS AND FINISHES AT AQUAS, UH, AT FIVE 30.
IT'S A, UH, A VERY MODEST, FIVE FLAT MILES, UM, INTENTIONALLY KID FRIENDLY.
SO, UM, HOPEFULLY, UM, PUBLICIZE IT WELL.
THE OTHER ONE IS
UH, THAT WILL BE A SECTION OF THE PROPOSED FIFTH STREET NEIGHBORHOOD GREENWAY.
UM, IT'S, UH, IT'LL BE INTERESTING.
THAT CLOSES PUBLIC COMMENTS AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY, UH, PRESENTATIONS, WHICH MOVES US TO THE APPROVAL OF
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MINUTES FOR NOVEMBER 1ST, 2023 COMMITTEE.ARE THERE ANY CHANGES YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE MADE TO THE MINUTES? OKAY.
THE MEETING MINUTES WILL BE ACCEPTED AS IS.
AND LET'S SEE, GOING, MOVING TO PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS
[PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION]
FOR CONSIDERATION.OUR FIRST ITEM IS TO REVIEW AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON THE LYNCH CREEK TRAIL IMPROVEMENTS EDITH STREET TO NORTH MCDOWELL BOULEVARD.
AND, UM, CAN I BELIEVE YOU'RE PRESENTING THIS ITEM? YEAH, THANK YOU.
AND, AND BJORN, UH, THANKFULLY IS GONNA BE THERE RUNNING THIS.
UM, AND I'LL JUST, YOU KNOW, I'LL JUST START OUT SAYING WE'RE NOT GONNA BE DOING ACTIVELY ANY DESIGN WORK, YOU KNOW, TILL, TILL YOU KNOW, THE START OF THE NEW YEAR.
SO IF YOU HAVE COMMENTS, PLEASE, YOU KNOW, YOU, WE DON'T NEED TO GET, YOU KNOW, WE WELCOME 'EM TONIGHT, BUT IF YOU HAVE
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COMMENTS, SEND THEM, SEND 'EM TO BJORN AND, YOU KNOW, WE'LL PUT IT IN THERE.SO THIS SHOULDN'T, YOU SHOULDN'T FEEL LIKE YOU NEED TO GET EVERYTHING YOU KNOW TOGETHER HERE.
CHAIR CAMARADA COMMITTEE MEMBERS, STAFF, PUBLIC, UM, TO HEAR ABOUT, UH, LYNCH CREEK TRAIL.
SO THIS, UM, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.
THIS FOR ME IS, YOU KNOW, THE LAST SORT OF MAJOR GAP CLOSURE OF LYNCH CREEK TRAIL, AND IT'S KIND OF OUR UNPOLISHED GEM OF, OF, UH, PETALUMA AND, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S LOOKING PRETTY DARN GOOD.
WE'RE GONNA CLOSE THE LAST GAP AND WE'RE GONNA MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE NEEDED AND THEN INPUT THAT YOU GIVE ME, OR, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DEFINITELY, UM, IMPLEMENT EITHER ON THIS PROJECT OR FUTURE ONE.
SO I'M GONNA TALK FIRST ABOUT NORTH MCDOWELL TO THE FIRST PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE.
THIS IS, UH, GOING DOWNSTREAM OR INBOUND TO DOWNTOWN OR TOWARDS HOLLY PARK, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO CHARACTERIZE THAT.
AND THEN THE NEXT IS, UH, PAY RAN TO EDITH COURT, UM, WHICH IS, UH, TOWARDS LAKEVILLE TOWARDS THE NEW DEVELOPMENT RIVER BEND.
AND THEN I'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE SUMMARY ON THE NEXT STEP.
SO, SO THE NORTH MCDOWELL TO HOLLY PARK, UM, THIS IS, WE'RE GONNA MAKE IMPROVEMENTS AT THE, AT THE, UM, ROADWAY THERE.
AND THEN GOING IN, THAT'S, IT'S A DEGRADED ASPHALTIC CONCRETE PATHWAY.
AND SO WE'RE GONNA WANT TO TAKE CARE OF THE, THE ACTUAL PATHWAY SURFACE, UM, AS WELL AS DRAINAGE AND AS WELL AS PUTTING IN SOME STRIPING.
SO SOME OF THE ITEMS HERE IS WE'LL GO IN AND, YOU KNOW, WE WORK WITH A BIOLOGIST, UM, TO GO THROUGH AND, AND CUT BACK THE VEGETATION, DO THAT AT THE RIGHT TIME OF THE YEAR.
WE CLEAN, WE'RE GONNA CLEAN THE DRAINAGE, WE'RE GONNA SEAL THE CRACKS.
UM, AND THEN THE, THE MITIGATION FOR THOSE CRACKS IS TO PUT AN ACTUAL GEOTEXTILE FABRIC ON TOP OF 'EM, AND THEN PUT ANOTHER LAYER OF ASPHALTIC CONCRETE, UM, GONNA, GOING TO PUT IN, TRY TO GET RID OF AS MUCH GRAFFITI REMOVAL, JUST CLEAN UP THE WHOLE THING.
AND, UM, I, THE WAY FINDING SIGNAGE MAY NOT BE IN THIS INITIAL CONTRACT, BUT, YOU KNOW, BJORN HAS A LOT OF REALLY GOOD IDEAS AND WE DEFINITELY WANT TO DO THE RIGHT THING TO GET PEOPLE INBOUND, OUTBOUND, UM, YOU KNOW, ON THE PATHWAY.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, MARKING AND STRIPING IT.
SO, SO THIS IS A ENGINEERING DRAWING 'CAUSE I'M AN ENGINEER AND YOU'RE LIKE, WHAT THE HECK IS THIS? BUT THIS IS, IF YOU CUT THE PATHWAY INTO SECTION, WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU SEE HERE? WELL, UM, ON THE OUTSIDE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA TRY TO IMPROVE THE WALKING SURFACE ON THE OUTSIDE SO YOU DON'T JUST DROP OFF.
WE'RE GONNA, UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY ON THE PATHWAY, UH, IMPROVE THAT SURFACE OF THE ASPHALT, THAT CONCRETE, WE CALL IT AC.
UM, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE DRAINAGE IS, IS, IS AN ISSUE IN PLACES ON US.
SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN DRAIN BOTH SIDES OF THE PATHWAY.
SO THAT'S WHAT THIS CROSS SECTION SHOWS.
AND THEN AS WE GO UP TO NORTH MCDOWELL FROM THE VERY FIRST TIME I, I RODE THERE, I JUST, I NEVER LIKED THAT, THAT INTERSECTION.
SO, UM, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND, AND, UM, DO SOME STRIPING AND, AND LAY DOWN A LITTLE BIT MORE ASPHALT THERE TO, TO IMPROVE THE CONNECTIVITY AND THE USABILITY OF THAT.
SO IF YOU'RE ON YOUR CARGO BIKE, UM, YOUR CARGO BIKE WITH A TRAILER, CAN YOU, YOU KNOW, CAN YOU MAKE THAT MANEUVER? YES.
NOW YOU CAN GET ON THE SIDEWALK.
UM, AND I WILL SAY ON, ON THIS, THIS WHOLE AREA, THE, THE CONNECTIVITY OF, UM, LYNCH CREEK TRAIL TO LUCCHESE, UM, WE HAVE A SEPARATE PROJECT THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THAT, THAT ARE NEEDED.
AND, AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE TO GET SOME MONEY FROM, UH, SCTA TO DO THAT WORK.
THE CONTRACT HAS BEEN SIGNED, SO THAT YOU'RE GONNA START HEARING THAT AS WE MOVE INTO, UM, UH, 2024.
AND, YOU KNOW, BERN, DON'T HESITATE IF YOU THINK THERE'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO ADD, UM, ON ANY OF THAT.
BUT, UM, AND JUST A, IN A NUTSHELL, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE IMPROVEMENTS WE CAN MAKE, WE CAN MAKE IMPROVEMENTS ON THE, THE, UM, SIGNALIZATION.
UM, WE CAN LOOK AT A FUTURE OVERPASS.
WE CAN LOOK AT GOING UNDER, THERE'S A DRAINAGE CULVERT THERE.
THEY DO THAT ON THE PENINSULA A LOT, GETTING UNDER 1 0 1.
SO WE'RE GONNA MAKE IMPROVEMENTS ON THAT WHOLE CONNECTIVITY.
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UH, AND THEN, UM, SO THEN WE GO FROM PAY RAN TO, TO EDITH, AND THIS IS GONNA BE VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN, UM, THE CONNECTION FROM RIVER BEND OR EDITH COURT TO LAKEVILLE AND ALSO WHAT WE DID BY HOLLY PARK.SO WE'RE GONNA IMPROVE THE A DA ACCESS TO PAY RAN, WHICH FOR ME IS VERY IMPORTANT.
JUST GETTING UP TO THE STREET.
UM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE AN EIGHT TO 10 FOOT CONCRETE PATH.
UM, WE'RE TRYING TO GET IT AS WIDE AS WE CAN WITHIN WHAT WE CAN WORK WITH THERE.
HAVE THE ONE TO TWO FOOT STABILIZED, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, QUA FIND STABILIZED, SHOULDERS ON THAT.
AGAIN, GET RID OF GRAFFITI REMOVAL, LOOK AT THE WAY FINDING AND MARK AND STRIPE.
SO, UM, SO WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TRASH CANS AND LOCATIONS.
UM, WE'VE GOT FIVE BENCHES, AND THEN WE'VE GOT THE LIGHTING SYSTEM SIMILAR TO WHAT IS AT RIVER BEND.
UM, AND, UM, THAT'S GONNA BE GOING IN, THAT IS SOLAR.
SO, AND WITH THAT, UM, TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
UM, PAMELA, CAN WE START WITH YOU? YEAH, THANKS KEN.
GLAD TO SEE WHERE, UM, UH, POLISHING THIS UP.
LIKE YOU SAID, I THINK IT IS A GEM.
WHAT, WHAT KIND OF, UH, LIGHTING WERE YOU THINKING IS GOING TO BE INCLUDED? UM, AT THE UNDERPASS? I, I WASN'T QUITE SURE IF YOU SAID THERE WAS
WAS ON THE SLIDE THAT I MISSED.
I SAW THE SOLAR ALONG THE OTHER SECTION, BUT YEAH.
YOU ARE, YOU DRILLED RIGHT IN ON THAT CAMERA.
I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT AND I, LIKE SOMEBODY IS GONNA ASK US.
UM, SO WE, WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT A LIGHT STANDARD UP ON, ON THE BRIDGE.
UM, THE DIFFICULTY IS GETTING A, GETTING A, A METER.
'CAUSE WE CAN'T OBVIOUSLY DO SOLAR.
UM, ALTHOUGH I, I WAS SORT OF THINKING COULD WE PUT A PANEL SOMEWHERE OUT THERE, BUT THEN VANDALISM AND PEOPLE STEALING IT, AND THAT GOT TOO COMPLICATED.
SO I'M LIKE, WELL, WE'RE JUST GONNA GO HOOK UP TO THE, THE LIGHT STANDARD.
IT'S KIND OF A SEPARATE PROJECT.
I LOOKED AT IT ON THE, THE ARCH, I'D LIKE TO GET LIGHTING ON THE ARCH AND PG E YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT, WE FIGURED OUT HOW TO DO IT, WE JUST TIE IN HERE.
AND PG E SAYS, NO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE AGREEMENT AND, AND GINA'S GONNA KNOW MORE AND GET INTO THE DETAILS IF YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW ABOUT IT.
BUT I, I RECOGNIZE THAT AND IT'S GONNA, IT'S GONNA NEED TO BE A SEPARATE PROJECT WHERE WE WOULD HAVE TO PUT IN ANOTHER METER.
I, I WOULD THINK WE COULD JUST TIE INTO IT AND I'M GONNA CHECK ON THAT, BUT THEY WEREN'T, UM, IT'S $60,000 TO TRY TO LIGHT THE ARCH.
AND, AND I, WE HAVEN'T, WE WILL EVENTUALLY DO IT.
I JUST DIDN'T HAVE THE, YOU KNOW, SO WHEN YOU REFER TO THE LIGHT STANDARD, IS THAT AT THE HIGHWAY LEVEL AND YOU'RE JUST A AT AND ADDING ANOTHER FIXTURE THAT POINTS BACK DOWN? YEAH, THERE, THERE'S AN AGREEMENT THAT CITY PG E HAS WHERE WE CAN TIE OUR LIGHT.
WHEN I SAY LIGHT STANDARDS, SO THAT'S THE STREETLIGHT.
SO, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT A STREETLIGHT THERE.
I LOOKED AT IT, IT'S GOT, IT'D BE SIMPLE TO RUN THE CONDUIT ON THE BRIDGE, YOU KNOW, STRUCTURE, AND THEN DROP IT DOWN TO, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE FLOOD WALL AND RUN RUN LIGHTING ALONG THERE.
UM, SO I ALREADY KNOW HOW TO DO IT, BUT IT'S, IT ENDS UP BEING AN ISSUE WITH PG E UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE WATTAGE NEEDED.
ISN'T THAT GREAT? I'M, I'M PRETTY SURE I DON'T THINK THERE WOULD BE ANY ISSUE MM-HMM.
UM, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT.
UM, OKAY, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.
I'M WONDERING ON THE, UM, THE ENTRANCE, IF YOU'RE GOING EAST ON PAYON AND YOU'RE MAKING A LEFT, ARE THERE GONNA BE ANY LIKE INDICATORS IN THE STREET FOR BIKES OR PEDESTRIANS? I GUESS SO YOU'RE ON, YOU'RE ON THE ROADWAY AND YOU, YOU'VE, YOU'VE COME OVER FROM THE BOULEVARD ON AND YOU'RE ON THE BRIDGE AND YOU'RE COMING DOWN, YOU WANNA MAKE A LEFT YEAH.
ONTO LYNCH CREEK TRAIL AND DROP DOWN THERE.
AND HOW DO YOU KNOW, I, THAT'S THE WAY FINDING SIGNAGE, UM, RIGHT.
BUT THERE'S NOT, NOT GONNA BE ANY STRIPING OR ANYTHING ON THE ROAD.
IT'S, IT'S, UH, IT'S, THAT ROADWAY IS PROBABLY 35, 35 FEET IN WIDTH.
UM, YOU KNOW, I GOT RID OF THE PARKING RIGHT AT THE, AT THE RAMP THERE THAT YOU WOULD, YOU WANT TO DRIVE OVER.
SO PEOPLE, THE SIGHT LINES ARE IMPROVED.
I MET WITH, WITH, UM, PETER AND BRUCE OUT THERE ON THAT, AND THAT GOT DONE.
UM, BUT IT, AT THIS POINT, UM, WE WERE JUST LOOKING AT, UM, AT WAY FINDING,
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BUT IT, I'M JUST TRYING, I'M THINKING OUT LOUD.IT, IT'S SOMETHING WE CONSIDER, I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE A, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WOULD DO THAT TO PUT SOME STRIPING IN THERE OR RIGHT.
MAYBE EVEN JUST ANOTHER SIGN, LIKE BIKES RIDE WITH TRAFFIC OR SOME WAY I KNOW WE'RE I RIDE ON THERE WITH MY KIDS AND WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE LANE BEFORE WE GET THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY SEE US STOPPING TO WAIT TO MAKE THAT LEFT TURN TURN.
SO YOU CAN MAKE THAT LEFT, UM, WITH THE, THE ONCOMING TRAFFIC.
UM, UM, YEAH, I DON'T, OKAY, THANK YOU.
WE, WE COULD LOOK TO SEE IF WE HAVE WIDTH TO MAYBE DO SOME SORT OF EITHER LIKE A TWO STAGE TURN, UM, YOU KNOW, TO CROSS OVER.
IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE RIDING, WHAT DIRECTION IS THAT IN OUR CONFUSING, ON A CONFUSING AXIS? UM, IF YOU'RE HEADING TOWARDS THE, YOU'RE HEADING TOWARDS WASHINGTON ON PAY, THAT'S THE LEFT TURN YOU'RE DESCRIBING? YES.
UM, AND THEN AFTER THE BRIDGE, WHEN YOU'RE GOING TOWARDS MCDOWELL ON THE LYNCH CREEK TRAIL, THERE'S AN INFORMAL PATH THAT GOES TOWARDS BURLINGTON.
UM, AND I'VE ACTUALLY HELPED PEOPLE GET OUT OF THE CREEK WHO HAVE GONE ON THAT PATH AND TRIED TO CROSS OVER TO GET BACK ON THE LCT.
SO SOME WAY FINDING, I GUESS WOULD BE IMPORTANT AROU ABOUT LIKE LCT THIS WAY OR, SO ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT HOLLY PARK OR YOU'RE, YOU'RE SAYING BU OH, I SEE WHERE YOU ARE ON, UM, ON BURLINGTON.
UM, I MEAN THE, SOME OF THESE CONNECTIONS ARE SORT OF THE NEXT PHASE OF WHAT I WANT TO PROVE.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE WAY FINDING SIGNAGE OFF THE TRAIL, CERTAINLY, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S EASY, BUT THEN ALSO IMPROVING THE SURFACES OF SOME OF THE CONNECTOR TRAILS.
BUT THAT WOULD BE A POSSIBILITY.
IT WOULDN'T BE, IT WOULDN'T BE IN THIS PROJECT LIKELY.
UM, IT COULD BE IF IT'S, IF WE CAN, YOU KNOW, UM, KIND OF DO IT AS A CHANGE ORDER OR SOMETHING IN THERE, AND I'M DEFINITELY THINKING ABOUT THAT.
BUT IT MIGHT END UP BEING KIND OF THE NEXT, NEXT PHASE FOR THE, FOR THE WORK.
I THINK I, I NEED TO, DO YOU UNDERSTAND? YES.
I THINK, I THINK WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THAT, SO WE HAVE A CITYWIDE WAY FINDING PROJECT THAT, UM, WE WANT TO GET GOING INTO THE, UH, INTO PLANNING AND DESIGN AND, UH, THAT WOULD ADDRESS THE WHOLE ENTIRE SYSTEM THROUGHOUT THE CITY, RIGHT? SO INCLUDING THESE CONNECT IT'S AN INFORMAL PATH, BUT IT'S A NICE CONNECTION.
NO, IT'S, IT'S DESIGNATED AS A, IT'S A, IT IS, IT'S DESIGNATED, IT'S PUBLIC ACCESS.
IT'S, IT'S NOT, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
NOT BREAKING ANY LAWS BY WRITING ON THAT.
UM, ARE YOU, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE THE MAINTENANCE ROAD THAT GOES? YEAH.
YEAH, THAT'S PART OF OUR ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION NETWORK.
SO, UH, YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S A CONNECTION.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD SIGN AS PART OF THE CITYWIDE PROJECT.
AND WE CURRENTLY HAVE THE BUDGET TO COMPLETE THIS PROJECT.
THE ONE THAT YOU PRESENTED THAT'S IN THE BUDGET, IT, IT LOOKS LIKE, I HAVEN'T GONE OUT TO BID WITH IT, BUT THE ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE SHOWS THAT WE HAVE THAT HAVE THE MONIES IN THERE AND IT, YOU KNOW, THINGS IN, IN THE CONSTRUCTION WORLD, THINGS CHANGE RAPIDLY ON IT, BUT RIGHT NOW WE DO.
AND I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT, UH, IMPROVED CROSSING AT MCDOWELL.
YEAH, WELL THAT'S, YEAH, AND THAT'S, LIKE I SAY, A SEPARATE, A SEPARATE PROJECT THERE, BUT I'M, YEAH, I'M, I'M, UH, VERY ANXIOUS TO GET THAT GOING AND LOOK AT IT AND, AND I'M SURE BJORN'S TOLD YOU ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING CORONA, YOU KNOW, THE, A BIKE CONNECTION RAINIER, UM, NORTH MCDOWELL, AND THEN MCKENZIE DOING ALL FOUR OF THOSE.
UM, YEAH, I DEFINITELY SUPPORT NICOLE'S POINT ABOUT JUST NEEDING THAT CONNECTION, ESPECIALLY ON PAY RAN, BUT, UM, AS YOU'RE COMING OFF, I KNOW THAT'S, YEAH, OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE, I JUST WANTED TO SECOND THAT, JUST CONSIDERING THE CONNECTIONS.
UH, AND I THINK GETTING BACK TO SOMETHING YOU SAID, KEN, ALSO ABOUT JUST LYNCH CREEK TRAIL BEING KIND OF LIKE THE UNSUNG HERO, I GUESS I WAS JUST THINKING OF OTHER
SO, UM, BUT THINGS THAT MAYBE YOU CAN PLAN FOR WITHIN THIS, UM, PROJECT SPECIFICALLY.
SO WHERE MY MIND WAS GOING TO, I THINK WAS WHERE, UH, WASHINGTON CREEK, THAT BRIDGE, WASHINGTON CREEK AND, UM, PETALUMA RIVER MEET, AND I, IT'S A, I WAS JUST LOOKING ONLINE, IT'S A, UM, PARTIAL FISH PASSAGE BARRIER.
THERE'S KIND OF LIKE LITTLE CONCRETE, YOU KNOW, THERE.
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REMEMBER RIDING BY AND SEEING SOME KIDS DOWN THERE JUST KIND OF INTERACTING, PLAYING WITH THE WATER DOWN THERE.AND I JUST THOUGHT TO REALLY CELEBRATE THE RIVER MEANS KIND OF INTERACTING WITH IT OR PROVIDING PLANNING FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO INTERACT WITH IT.
SO WHAT I GUESS THE PROPOSAL MIGHT BE IS JUST HAVING SOME TYPE OF SAFE BUT INFORMAL WALKWAY THAT'S KIND OF ROCKY, THAT YOU COULD ALMOST WALK ACROSS THAT AND ALLOW, YOU KNOW, TO WALK ACROSS, UM, WASHINGTON CREEK.
I'M NOT SURE IF THAT LOCATION, I, IF YOU KNOW WHERE I'M TALKING ABOUT.
SO THIS IS BY HOLLY PARK, SO IF YOU'RE, LOOK YEAH, EXACTLY.
IF YOU'RE AT PAYAN HEADING, UM, YOU'RE GONNA GO ACROSS THE BRIDGE OF WASHINGTON CREEK.
SO ON EITHER SIDE OF THAT MM-HMM.
KIND OF JUST THE SIMPLE AND FINAL ACCESS.
I, I THINK WE HAVE NOT TOTALLY, UM, AT ALL UNDERSTOOD.
AND CERTAINLY NOT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T DEVELOPED ANY OF THE POTENTIAL FOR ANY OF THAT.
I LOOK AT FROM NORTH MCDOWELL, UM, ON, YOU KNOW, WASHINGTON BOULEVARD, PARALLELING WASHINGTON BOULEVARD.
THERE'S A, THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE IS A MAINTENANCE ROAD IN THERE.
SO WE'VE GOT SORT OF MAINTENANCE ROADS, TRAILS ALONG ALL THESE DRAINAGE WAYS, AND THEY, THEY, WE DON'T OWN 'EM ALL.
SONOMA WATER HAS SOME, UM, AND, AND I THINK THAT THERE'S A REAL POTENTIAL OF DEVELOPING ALL THOSE AND HAVING ALL THIS CONNECTIVITY.
AND I, THERE IS A, UH, A, A TRAIL, AN EXISTING KIND OF RECREATIONAL NATURAL SURFACE TRAIL THAT DOES RUN, SO I PULLED IT UP ON SCREEN SHARE HERE.
UM, THIS IS WASHINGTON CREEK, UH, AND IF YOU FOLLOW THE YEAH, EAST, BASICALLY THE EAST BANK OF THE CREEK, THAT IS A, THAT IS A, A FORMALIZED TRAIL THAT ALLOWS ACCESS.
I, YOU KNOW, AND I WOULD LIKE TO GET A DA ACCESS INTO THAT PARK, AND I DON'T HAVE THAT YET, AND I'M STILL KIND OF MULLING THAT OVER.
BUT, UH, THE OPPORTUNITIES DON'T STOP, BELIEVE ME,
YEAH, NO, NO, UH, NO QUESTIONS.
UH, JUST WANTED TO COMMENT AND SAY, YOU KNOW, AS A EAST SIDER, UM, AND SOMEONE WHO USES A BIKE TO GET FROM THE EAST SIDE TO DOWNTOWN, UH, REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT, SO.
I HAVE, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.
UM, CAN, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, LET ME START WITH, WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT MAKING A LEFT TURN ACROSS PAY RAN AND THEN GOING DOWN TO THE LYNCH CREEK TRAIL.
COULD WE STRIPE, JUST DO OUR GREEN AND GREEN AND NOT GREEN STRIPES ACROSS ALONG WITH SIGNAGE ON BOTH SIDES? THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I, I WAS THINKING.
SUGGEST SUGGESTS IT'S SOME SORT OF SHADOW CONFIGURATION, AND I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE THE, QUITE THE CONCEPT IN MY MIND, BJORN'S REALLY GOOD AT THOSE THINGS.
SO, BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS THINKING IS JUST SOME WAY OF, YOU KNOW, GIVING SOME BREADCRUMB, YOU KNOW, SITUATION, BUT ALSO FLAGGING A CONFLICT AREA.
SO YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, JUST GETTING SOME PAINT ON THE ROUND FOR DIRECTIONAL CON, YOU KNOW, CONTROL AND, AND, AND CONFLICT, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTANDING TO THE USERS.
SO YEAH, I JUST THOUGHT THAT MIGHT BE AN ALTERNATIVE.
UM, AGAIN, THE WIDTH IS WE DON'T HAVE MUCH WIDTH THERE.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE CITY, WHEN WE GET DOWN BELOW 40 FEET OF WIDTH, UM, THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE CHALLENGES IN DOING SOME OF THOSE THINGS.
I GOT LOST IN THE VERY BEGINNING BECAUSE I USUALLY, WHEN I THINK OF LYNCH CREEK TRAIL, I STARTED LAKEVILLE, OR I START AT WATER STREET AND I WALK EAST, SO, OKAY.
YOU, YOU STARTED YOUR PRESENTATION MOVING THE OTHER DIRECTION.
SO WHEN YOU STARTED, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE SEGMENT, UM, THAT GOES FROM NORTH MCDOWELL TO GOING IN THE DIRECTION OF LAKEVILLE.
AND IT'S THE, AS IT'S THE CURRENT ASPHALT PART OF OUR PATHWAY, RIGHT? CORRECT.
BOTH SIDES FROM THE UNDERPASS.
SO WE DON'T DO ANYTHING ON THE 1 0 1 UNDERPASS, BUT WE GO BOTH, BOTH SIDES OF THAT.
SO W THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO, IT'S AGAIN, GOING TO BE THE, THE SURFACE OF THAT AREA.
YOU KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS CONCERNED ME BECAUSE WE'VE GOT SPLITS AND CRACKS AND CREVICES AND IT IS SUCH A DANGEROUS AREA FOR WHEELCHAIRS AND WALKERS AND UN AND BICYCLISTS AND LITTLE KIDS, AND EVERYBODY'S ALWAYS FALLING INTO THE CRACK AND THEN CRASHING.
SO, SO, UM, IT DOES CONCERN ME.
SO THE SURFACE IS GOING TO BE MADE OF IT'S ASPHALTIC CONCRETE.
IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE THE SAME, SAME SURFACE THAT'S THERE, BUT WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND PUT A, WHAT THEY CALL PETRO MAT, WHICH IS A GEOTEXTILE FABRIC.
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AND IT, UH, IT GIVES THE ABILITY TO KIND OF BRIDGE, WE'RE GONNA FILL THE CRACKS AND THEN IT, AND THEN IT'S GONNA BRIDGE THOSE, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT SURFACE THERE.UM, THAT BASICALLY GOES THROUGH SHRINKAGE AND EXPANSION, YOU KNOW, SUMMER AND WINTER, UH YEP.
AND THEN DID YOU MENTION A PATHWAY TO HOLLY FROM, WELL, I JUST LANE STREET TRAIL UP TO THE, THE ROAD HOLLY ROAD.
I MEAN, I, I, I WANT TO START SEEING ONCE WE, SO THIS, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE DID THE WORKUP AT PRINCE PARK.
WE'VE DONE, YOU KNOW, PAY RAN SECTION, WE'VE, YOU KNOW, WE DID FOX HOLLOW, WE'VE DONE ALL THESE THINGS, WE'RE CLOSING THE LAST GAP, AND NOW I WANNA START LOOKING AT THE CONNECTIONS THAT WE NEED TO GET, YOU KNOW, VIABLE CONNECTIONS, HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, A DA COMPLIANT TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
YOU KNOW, WE GET, WE'VE GOT THE MAIN DRAG DONE.
NOW LET'S START WORKING ON SOME OF THE OTHER ONES.
SO, WELL, I JUST KEEP THINKING THAT IF WE, IF WE'RE STILL HAVING, AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU ARE OR NOT, BUT ACCESS ACCESSIBILITY ONTO THE PAY RAN STREET OR PAY RAN BRIDGE HAS ALWAYS BEEN DICEY BECAUSE IT'S NOT A DA COMPLIANT.
AND IF WE CAN'T DO THAT, COULDN'T WE USE ONE OF THOSE PATHWAYS GOING INTO HOLLY? NO.
WE, WE CAN MAKE IT A DA COMPLIANT.
IT'S BEEN SURVEYED, WE CAN DO IT.
WE GOTTA DO, WE GOTTA PULL BACK A LITTLE BIT OF THE ARMY CORPS WORK, UM, IN ORDER TO, TO GET THE ELEVATIONS TO ALL WORK.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING A LITTLE, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE HAVING TO ADJUST ALL THE GRADES TO ALLOW FOR A DA AND WE JUST, WE BENCH IT UP.
SO YOU, LIKE, YOU'VE SEEN, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU, YOU GO UP AT SLOPES AND YOU GET, GET A, YOU KNOW, A RESPITE, A LANDING SERVICE, THEN YOU GO UP THE NEXT STEP.
SO, OH, THAT'S JUST AWESOME BECAUSE THAT WAY IT'S AN EASY CONNECTION HOPEFULLY FOR THOSE WHO HAVE MOBILITY DEVICES.
OR, AND IF CAN GET TO THE LIBRARY OR THE SWIM CENTER OR, YOU KNOW, UH, PARENTS PUSHING THEIR KIDS OR, OR HOWEVER.
'CAUSE THIS LYNCH CREEK TRAIL HAS MEANT A LOT TO ME IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, AND IT'S LOVELY SEEING WHERE WE'VE COME YEAH.
AND WHERE WE ARE ALMOST READY TO, I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO CUT A RIBBON OR SOMETHING.
AND I DID, I DID TALK WITH FRIENDS OF LYNCH CREEK TRAIL, UM, AND JUST LET THEM KNOW ABOUT THIS PRESENTATION AND SUCH.
SO, UM, BUT, UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH AGAIN.
UM, SO JUST TO FOLLOW UP QUESTION AND COMMENT, SO JUST TO UNDERSTAND, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FILLING IN CRACKS, WHAT ARE YOU ACTUALLY KEEPING AND WHAT ARE YOU KIND OF STARTING FROM SCRATCH? I WAS THINKING FROM THE ENGINEERING VIEW, IT LOOKED LIKE YOU WERE STARTING FROM SCRATCH, BUT THEN I WAS CONFUSED AFTER NO, WE'RE LEAVING EVERYTHING IN THERE.
WE'RE NOT HAVING, SO WHAT CRACKS ARE YOU, ARE YOU FILLING? WELL, THERE'S JUST THESE, THESE LONGITUDINAL CRACKS THAT, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, I WROTE IT LAST WEEK AND I'M LIKE, OH MY GOSH, THESE THINGS, I FILLED THEM ONCE I, I FILLED THEM IN A COUPLE YEARS AGO AND TRIED TO SEAL AS MUCH OF THE, THE SURFACE.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE DEGRADATION OF THESE, OF THESE TYPE OF PATHWAYS IS, IS THE WATER THAT GETS IN THERE.
SO IF WE CAN SEAL THAT ALL UP, THAT'LL, THAT'LL HELP IMMENSELY.
SO WHEN, SO, YOU KNOW, BEFORE WE PUT IN, PUT ON THE LAYER GEOTEXTILE FABRIC AND FINAL LAYER OF ASPHALTED CONCRETE, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND SEAL ALL THE CRACKS, SEAL EVERYTHING THERE.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET, AS YOU KNOW, IMPERMEABLE OF A SURFACE, UM, GOING ONTO THAT.
THEN YOU'RE JUST BUILDING ON TOP OF IT, BUILDING RIGHT ON TOP OF IT.
UM, AND THEN THANK YOU FOR THAT.
AND THEN JUST I GUESS TO BELABOR THE PAY RAN, UM, CROSSING, I THINK GOING A LITTLE FURTHER THAN KIND OF THE STRIPED, UM, MARKINGS ON THE GROUND SEEMED APPROPRIATE JUST GIVEN THAT, UM, SOUTHBOUND APPROACH.
I THINK COMING UP OVER THE BRIDGE, YOUR LINE OF SIGHT IS VERY LIMITED, YOU KNOW, SO YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE ANYTHING ON THE GROUND, LET ALONE SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, SHORTER FOLKS CROSSING OR SOMETHING.
SO IF THERE'S, YEAH, IF THERE'S UP FOR FUTURE DISCUSSION, I WOULD DEFINITELY RECOMMEND PUTTING SOME TYPE OF KIND OF FLASHING CROSSWALK JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT IF YOU DID WANNA BE ABLE TO GET ACROSS SAFELY OR MOVE, WHAT HAVE YOU, THAT YEAH, THAT, YEAH.
IT'S KIND OF A LITTLE BIT OF A FUNKY AREA, UM, ON IT.
AND JUST TO ADD TO THAT, WHEN YOU'RE, UM, COMING OUT OF THE LYNCH CREEK TRAIL BACK ONTO PAYAN AND MAKING A RIGHT, THE, IT NEEDS TO BE LIKE A LOT OF DAYLIGHTING AND BRUSH CUT BACK BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO SEE THE ONCOMING CARS AND WE, I HAVE TO PULL OUT LIKE FAIRLY WIDE TO GET ENOUGH
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SPEED GOING UP, RIGHT? 'CAUSE YOU'RE GOING UP ON THE INCLINE THERE.THERE'S NO VEGETATION THERE THOUGH.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT IT? SO IF YOU'RE, YOU'RE ON LYNCH CREEK TRAIL AND YOU'RE GONNA TURN RIGHT ONTO PAYAN AND GO UP TO THE BOULEVARD, THAT, THAT MOVEMENT.
SO THEN ON LIKE GOING TOWARDS WASHINGTON SIDE, THERE'S A TRUCK THAT USUALLY PARKS THERE, AND I THINK THERE'S LIKE A, UM, OPEN KIND OF LIKE CYCLONE FENCE AREA NOW, BUT YEAH, THERE IS THIS BUSH, RIGHT? IT'S HARD TO SEE AROUND.
UM, I DON'T, I'LL HAVE TO SEE, I DON'T THINK THAT'S CITY PROPERTY.
UM, BUT I'D HAVE TO CHECK ON IT.
WE CAN, WE CAN, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT.
I ACTUALLY THINK IN, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOME MORE PAINT IN THE ROAD THERE.
WE COULD DO SOMETHING TO KIND OF TRY TO BULB THAT OUT IN A, IN FACT, I, UM, THAT WAS AN IDEA, ACTUALLY.
I THINK PETE MIGHT HAVE MENTIONED IT, BUT JUST TRY TO PUT, DO A, DO LIKE A, A QUICK BUILD BULB OUT THERE AND PUT SOME, SOME VERTICAL ELEMENTS TO GIVE A LITTLE MORE PRESENCE TO IT.
AND, UM, I MET WITH A NEIGHBOR.
THEY WERE NICE TO, THEY DIDN'T MIND LOSING THE PARKING SPACE.
BUT, UM, YEAH, UM, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
WE COULD DEFINITELY DO SOMETHING THERE.
AND I WILL SAY, UM, WE'VE SPENT A FAIR AMOUNT OF TIME JUST ON THE STRIPING, UM, IN THIS SECTION OF LYNCH CREEK TRAIL TO TRY TO GET PEOPLE, WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE WHIZZING DOWN THERE, SO I'M TRYING TO NARROW THE PATHWAY, PUT SPEED, GRADATION MARKINGS IN, WE USE IT FOR MOTOR VEHICLE TRAFFIC.
WE DID IT ON I STREET, SO I'M, I'M DOING THE SAME THING HERE TO, I GET COMPLAINTS OF, YOU KNOW, OH, THOSE ELECTRIC BIKES ARE GOING TOO FAST AND PEOPLE ARE SPEEDING.
AND SO JUST TO GIVE, YOU KNOW, SOME PRESENCE ON THE PAVEMENT THERE TO, YOU KNOW, SO IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A, YOU KNOW, A HIGHWAY TO CYCLISTS THAT ARE GOING REALLY FAST.
KELLY, I KNOW YOU JUST ARRIVED.
WOULD YOU, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS TO ADD? OKAY.
SO WITH THAT, WE'LL OPEN PUBLIC COMMENTS.
THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM.
PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON.
IF YOU HAVEN'T DONE SO ALREADY, PLEASE FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD AND BRING IT TO THE CLERK.
HAVE YOU RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM PRIOR TO THE MEETING? THERE WERE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS RECEIVED.
AND I DON'T HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS, RIGHT? IF I MAY PLEASE FILL IT OUT.
SORRY FOR, UH, DEFYING THE, THE, THE RULES AND ORDER AS LONG AS I'M HERE.
UH, I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS ABOUT LYNCH CREEK TRAIL, WHICH I RIDE OFTEN.
ONE IS, IS ABOUT WHERE LYNCH CREEK TRAIL CROSSES NORTH MCDOWELL BOULEVARD.
IN THE LAST WEEK OR TWO WEEKS, I'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH THE, THE DOCUMENT CALLED, UH, PETALUMA'S CARBON REDUCTION BLUEPRINT, THE GREENHOUSE REDUCTION PLAN, WHICH IS OUR DRAFT CLIMATE ACTION PLAN.
AND ONE OF THE ITEMS IN THERE IS A MOBILITY PRIORITY POLICY, WHICH TALKS ABOUT IN ALL OF OUR TRANSPORTATION PLANNING, GIVING PRIORITY TO PEDESTRIANS AND THEN BICYCLES AND OTHER FORMS OF, UH, MICRO MOBILITY AND LAST GIVING PRIORITY TO MOTORIZED VEHICLES.
AND THAT SUGGESTS TO ME THAT WHERE LYNCH CREEK TRAIL CROSSES NORTH MCDOWELL, IF WE'RE THINKING LONG TERM, SHOULDN'T WE BE GIVING PRIORITY TO, UM, PEDESTRIANS AND NON-MOTORIZED VEHICLES, UM, IN, IN SOME WAY OF, UM, I DON'T KNOW, SIGNALED INTERSECTION, UM, NUMBER TWO, WAYFINDING.
IT'S REALLY, REALLY CRITICALLY IMPORTANT.
IF ONE DOESN'T KNOW ABOUT THE EXISTENCE OF LYNCH CREEK TRAIL, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S THERE.
UH, AND MY FINAL COMMENT IS ABOUT TRASH CANS.
UM, AGAIN, GIVEN WHAT I'M READING ABOUT IN THE, THE, THIS GREENHOUSE GAS REDUCTION BLUEPRINT, EVERY PLACE WE HAVE A TRASH CAN AT LEAST HAVE A RECYCLING CONTAINER.
SO, UH, ONE LANDFILL AND ONE RECYCLING.
AND THAT CLOSES PUBLIC COMMENTS AND BRINGS IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE FOR DISCUSSION.
I DIDN'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I DO HAVE COMMENTS.
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WANT TO ECHO THE CALLS FOR TRAFFIC CALMING AND SIGNAGE.UM, AT, AT PAY RAN, THAT REALLY IS A, IT STARTLES A LOT OF DRIVERS, JUST LIKE IT DOES, UH, JUST LIKE IT IS PEOPLE ON BIKES AND WALKING.
UM, ALSO ECHO THE CALLS FOR TURN HERE SIGNS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I MEAN, I RIDE, I RIDE IT FREQUENTLY AND I FEEL LIKE EVERY TIME I RIDE IT ON LIKE A FIRST FRIDAY AT FIVE BIKE RIDE, I WIND UP LIKE GOING STRAIGHT WHERE I NEED TO TURN BECAUSE I JUST DON'T PAY ATTENTION.
UM, AND THEN THE FINAL THING THAT I THINK, UM, IS WORTH MENTIONING IS THE FAIRGROUNDS IS GONNA BECOME A MUCH MORE RELEVANT DESTINATION IN THE FUTURE.
AND SO CONNECTIONS FROM HOLLY, UM, TO LYNCH CREEK TRAIL IS GONNA BECOME, UM, AN IMPORTANT CONNECTION AS IS THE, THE CONNECTIONS ON, ON PAY.
UM, AND I'M NOT SURE THAT WE HAVE LIKE A SOLID, UH, WAY FOR SOMEONE WHO LIVED ON RAINIER TO GET TO, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD GET TO LYNCH CREEK.
UM, BUT ONCE YOU'RE ON LYNCH CREEK, I DON'T THINK IT'S CLEAR.
LIKE, YOU KNOW, SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT, UH, WAYFINDING SIGNAGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, LIKE FAIRGROUNDS THIS WAY, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND LIKE TRY AND STEER PEOPLE TOWARD A SAFE ROUTE TO GET TO THE FAIRGROUNDS.
'CAUSE UM, THERE'S GONNA BE, UM, ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE MORE PEOPLE GOING THERE ON A DAILY BASIS, UM, YOU KNOW, STARTING NEXT YEAR.
ONE MAYBE MORE QUESTION, UM, FROM ASKING FOR TECHNICAL TRANSPORTATION EXPERTISE IN THESE KIND OF SITUATIONS, A LOT OF THESE TIGHT TURNS, UM, AROUND, UH, LYNCH CREEK AND PAY RAN, UM, ESPECIALLY ON THE, THE PATHWAY SIDE.
UM, ARE THERE, I KNOW THERE'S LIKE THE, UM, UH, KIND OF THE CONCAVE MIRRORS THAT ARE USED SOMETIMES, BUT IF I WAS A KID, I'D JUST WANNA BREAK THEM.
SO I'M JUST LIKE, IS THERE ANY OTHER SOLUTION OR, WELL, WHAT WE, WHAT WE ENDED UP DOING THERE IS MARKINGS ON THE PAVEMENT WHERE WE, WE TRIED TO REALLY GIVE, UM, YOU KNOW, GIVE THE USER, IF YOU'RE COMING DOWN, UM, FROM PAY RAN TO GIVE THE USER THIS ABILITY, PUSH 'EM, PUSH 'EM OUT FAR ENOUGH SO THAT WE DON'T END UP WITH A CONFLICT ZONE THERE WITH, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE COMING UNDER THE BRIDGE, YOU KNOW, HEADING, WE'LL SAY EAST, UM, AND THEN SOMEBODY COMING DOWN FROM PAYAN WANTING TO HEAD WEST ON THE TRAIL.
AND THAT, THAT MOVEMENT IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT PAIN ON THE GROUND TO TRY TO, YOU KNOW, GIVE A LITTLE BIT, UM, BETTER, UM, YOU KNOW, TRY TO, TRY TO SLOW THE TRAFFIC DOWN BA TRY TO SLOW, YOU KNOW, BICYCLISTS DOWN ON THAT.
SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE WERE THINKING ABOUT IT.
PUTTING, PUTTING IN, THAT'S DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, SOME SORT OF A MIRROR OR SOMETHING IS DEFINITELY THERE.
UM, I'VE, I'VE HAD A COUPLE INSTANCES WHERE JUST THAT, THAT PARTICULAR MOVEMENT, AND I'M, I'M HEADING WESTBOUND.
SOMEBODY'S GOING THE OTHER WAY, BUT THEY'RE ON, THEY'RE, WELL, THE GUY WAS ON A ELECTRIC SINGLE WHEEL MACHINE
I WAS LIKE, WOW, YOU'RE GOING REALLY FAST.
SO MUCH FASTER THAN I WAS EXPECTING.
UM, UM, I KNOW, AND THERE'S NO WAY TO REALLY IMPROVE THE VIEW 'CAUSE OF THE HEIGHT DIFFERENCE.
UH, SOMETHING THAT I SOMETIMES DO FOR SAFETY PURPOSES, AND MAYBE YOU COULD HAVE A LITTLE SIGN, IS THAT IF YOU ARE GOING, UM, EASTBOUND, YOU KNOW, HOLLAND REALLY GOING FAST OR WHATEVER, IT'S LIKE, YEAH, THERE'S DEFINITELY A CONFLICT THERE, RIGHT? BUT JUST BEING ABLE TO LIKE RING YOUR BELL OR HONK YOUR HORN, DO SOMETHING LIKE TO LET PEOPLE KNOW YOU'RE COMING, HOWEVER YOU SAY THAT SUCCINCTLY IN A SIGN, RIGHT? RIGHT.
SO THEN WHEN YOU'RE COMING DOWN, YOU CAN AT LEAST HEAR, OH, THERE'S SOME AUDIBLE NOISE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT JUST DAWN UPON ME, I DON'T KNOW HOW, LIKE, DO THE ONE WHEELERS, CAN YOU HONK YOUR HORN IF YOU WANT
USUALLY WITH A COWBELL AROUND YOUR NECK OR SOMETHING, BUT SOMETHING TO ENCOURAGE MAYBE BEHAVIORAL CHANGE IN TERMS OF YEAH, RING YOUR BELL, CALL OUT WHEN YOU'RE COMING UP.
I THINK IN, IN ALL THE PROJECTS WE DO, WE, YOU KNOW, WE SOLVE ONE PROBLEM, BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, WE MAY CREATE ANOTHER PROBLEM.
IT'S LESSER OF A PROBLEM AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE WALKING AND BIKING AND MM-HMM.
UM, I JUST, COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLES, I JUST WANTED TO, TO REFLECT ON THAT, CONNECTIONS TO THE FAIRGROUND.
'CAUSE THAT, THAT WAS SOMETHING, WE GOT THE MAIN LIBRARY, WE GOT A SHOPPING CENTER, WE GOT THE POOL, WE GOT THE SKATE PARK, WE GOT A TRANSIT CENTER THERE.
YOU KNOW, WE GOT ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON.
ORIGINALLY, I WAS LIKE, WOW, WE'LL GET 'EM TO PAY RAN AND THEN WE'LL GO THERE AND I GO, PAY RAN IS CRAZY, YOU KNOW, SO WE GET 'EM, HOLLY PARK AND ELLIS AND GET 'EM IN THERE.
SO THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S, AND THAT'LL HELP MCKINLEY.
UM, SO I THINK THERE'S SOME SYNERGY WITH DOING ALL THAT.
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I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT.ANY OTHER COMMENTS? THANK YOU.
IT'S MOVING TO ITEM THREE REVIEW AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON FRONTAGE IMPROVEMENTS ON NORTH MCDOWELL BOULEVARD AND CORONA ROAD, ASSOCIATED WITH THE MERIDIAN AND PETALUMA NORTH STATION PROJECTS.
AND, UM, KEN ETA, THIS IS YOU AGAIN, I BELIEVE THIS ONE'S ACTUALLY ME.
AND GOOD EVENING COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
UM, THIS SHOULD BE A FAIRLY QUICK ITEM.
UH, JUST, UH, WANTED TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, BRING SOMETHING BACK TO THE COMMITTEE THAT HASN'T BEEN BEFORE YOU FOR A FEW YEARS.
SO FOR SEVERAL OF YOU, THIS WILL BE NEW.
UM, THE, UH, DANKO AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT AND PETMAN NORTH STATION ARE BOTH MOVING FORWARD.
THIS IS UP AT, UH, NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF CORONA ROAD AND NORTH MCDOWELL BOULEVARD.
THE, UH, THE DANKO PROJECT IN INCLUDES 131, UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS, AND OBVIOUSLY THE PETMAN NORTH STATION PROJECT WILL BE SMART'S NEW, UH, SECOND STATION, UH, UP IN THIS AREA.
AND, UH, THE DANCO PROJECT HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.
SO, UM, THAT THAT PROJECT, UH, THE, THE SITE PLAN AND, AND ALL OF ITS, UM, UH, CIRCULATION COMPONENTS ARE, ARE ALL SET TO GO, WILL NOT BE COMING BACK TO PBA FOR REVIEW.
BUT THE CITY RIGHT NOW IS WORKING CLOSELY WITH, UM, WITH DANCO AND THEIR ENGINEERS, AS WELL AS SMART TO TRY TO FINALIZE THE FRONTAGE IMPROVEMENTS ON NORTH MCDOWELL BOULEVARD AND CORONA ROAD.
AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE DO HAVE SOME ABILITY TO INFLUENCE BEFORE THIS PROJECT GOES TO CONSTRUCTION.
SO I WANTED TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO TONIGHT TO JUST TALK THROUGH THIS, UH, AT A VERY HIGH KIND OF CONCEPTUAL LEVEL WITHOUT ENGINEERING DRAWINGS, TRY TO SIMPLIFY IT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AND REALLY FOCUS IN ON PBAS FEEDBACK ON, UM, WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE ON THESE TWO FRONTAGES.
UM, WHEN WE CAME, WHEN, WHEN, UH, THE, UH, DEVELOPER AND, UM, AND OUR COMMUNITY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT ENGAGED PBAC LAST IN 2019 AND 2020, UH, AS NOTED IN THE STAFF REPORT, PBA C'S FEEDBACK WAS PREFERENCE FOR CLASS ONE MULTI-USE TRAILS ALONG, UH, ALONG NORTH MCDOWELL BOULEVARD.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WANTED TO, UM, UH, CIRCLE BACK ON, CONFIRM THAT THAT IS STILL THE CASE.
AND ALSO, I JUST WANTED TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF EXPLAIN SORT OF THE CIRCULATION THROUGH THIS AREA, BECAUSE I KNOW IT CAN, IT IS A LITTLE CONFUSING TO, AND IT'S DIFFICULT TO, UH, TO VISUALIZE.
SO I DID, UH, IN ADDITION TO THIS MAP, WHICH WAS ATTACHED IN THE AGENDA, UM, HAVE, HAVE PREPARED A COUPLE OF REALLY SIMPLE IMAGES THAT I'LL SHARE TONIGHT.
UM, BUT FIRST I'LL JUST KIND OF WALK YOU THROUGH THIS IMAGE.
SO, UH, AGAIN, THIS IS, SEE, YEAH, YOU CAN SEE MY CURSOR.
SO THIS IS NORTH MCDOWELL BOULEVARD.
PROJECT SITE IS ON THIS, UH, TRIANGULAR PIECE OF LAND.
INCLUDES BOTH AGAIN, UH, THE, THE DENKO PROJECT AND THE SMART STATION, WHICH IS, UH, LOCATED IN, IN THIS AREA.
AND SO SMART IS ACTUALLY ALREADY, UM, HAVE ALREADY AWARDED THE BID TO CONSTRUCT THEIR, UH, MULTI-USE TRAIL EXTENSION FROM SOUTH POINT BOULEVARD TO PEN GROVE, AS WELL AS THEIR, UH, AS, AS WELL AS THE, THE STATION ITSELF.
AND SO, FOLLOWING THAT PATH OF TRAVEL, THE, THE SMART TRAIL EXTENSION WILL BE, UH, LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE TRACKS.
IT WILL COME UP TO NORTH MCDOWELL BOULEVARD, MAKE A NICE, UH, 90 DEGREE CROSSING OF THE TRACKS, ACCESS A WIDENED SIDEWALK UP TO, UM, UH, NEAR, UH, ONE OF THE INTERSECTIONS WITH, UH, THE MOBILE HOME PARK HERE.
AND THERE'LL BE A NEW SIGNALED CROSSING TAKING PEOPLE ACROSS NORTH MCDOWELL BOULEVARD.
UM, FROM THAT POINT, THERE'S A DECISION POINT WHERE YOU CAN, UM, CROSS THE TRACKS AND CONTINUE ON, UH, THE SMART TRAIL ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE TRACKS.
OR YOU COULD, UM, BIKE EASTBOUND WALK OR BIKE EASTBOUND ALONG NORTH MCDOWELL BOULEVARD.
UM, IF YOU'RE A BIKING NORTHBOUND ON NORTH MCDOWELL BOULEVARD, THERE'S A, THERE'LL BE A RAMP FROM THE SIDEWALK OR FROM THE BIKE LANE UP ONTO THE SIDE, THE WIDEN SIDEWALK TO AGAIN FACILITATE THAT, UM, THAT SAFER CROSSING OF THE TRACKS.
THE WHOLE GOAL HERE IS TO HAVE PEOPLE CROSS THE TRACKS, WHETHER THEY'RE WALKING OR BIKING AT A PERPENDICULAR ANGLE AND IN A, IN A CONTROLLED FASHION.
UM, AND I'LL JUST SHOW A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES FROM OTHER CROSSINGS THAT'LL BE, THAT ARE, THIS WILL BE VERY SIMILAR TO.
SO THIS IS DOWN AT ANDERSON DRIVE IN SAN RAFAEL.
UM, UH, HIGHLIGHTED HERE IS THE, IS THE PATH OF TRAVEL
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FOR PEOPLE BIKING THROUGH THIS CROSSING.SO AGAIN, UH, EXITING FROM THE ON-STREET BIKE LANE ONTO A, UH, OFF STREET TRAIL, CROSSING THE TRACKS AT A RIGHT ANGLE AND THEN ACCESSING A RAMP BACK DOWN ONTO THE BIKE LANE.
THIS IS WHAT THE, THOSE RAMPS LOOK LIKE DOWN IN SAN RAFAEL WHERE YOU ACCESS THE SIDEWALK.
THIS IS WHAT THE, UH, ONE OF THE CROSSINGS LOOKS LIKE.
YOU CAN SEE SOMEONE ACTUALLY TAKING ADVANTAGE RIGHT THERE IN THE OTHER DIRECTION.
SAME IDEA, A RAMP UP BEFORE THE RAIL CROSSING.
AND THEN AGAIN, UH, HERE'S YOUR MORE CONTROLLED RAIL CROSSING.
SO THAT'S JUST TRYING TO HELP YOU VISUALIZE WHAT, UH, WILL BE IN PLACE ON NORTH MCDOWELL BOULEVARD AGAIN, UM, WITH THE RAMPS, UH, IN BOTH DIRECTIONS.
WANTED TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON TONIGHT.
AGAIN, THE NORTH MCDOWELL BOULEVARD FRONTAGE IMPROVEMENT.
SO WE ARE LOOKING AGAIN, JUST AT THE PROJECT SITE, NO CHANGES WOULD BE MADE TO THE SOUTHBOUND DIRECTION ON NORTH MCDOWELL BOULEVARD.
SO THAT WILL STILL BE THE, UH, CLASS FOUR PROTECTED BIKE LANE THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE TODAY, UM, UP UNTIL, AGAIN, UNTIL THAT SIGNALIZE CROSSING WITH THE NEW AND IMPROVED SIDEWALK, UH, AND, AND RAIL CROSSING.
SO WE WANNA FOCUS IN ON THIS, UH, FRONTAGE ON THE NORTHBOUND SIDE OF NORTH MCDOWELL.
AND I HAVE A COUPLE OF CROSS SECTIONS THERE.
AND THEN I ALSO WANT TO GET SOME FEEDBACK ON CORONA ROAD.
DO NOT HAVE CROSS SECTIONS THERE TO SHARE, UM, BUT WE'LL GO TO NORTH MCDOWELL FIRST.
SO AGAIN, THESE ARE, WE'VE, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH, UM, BETWEEN THE CITY AND, AND EVEN WITHIN THE CITY TALKING TO FIRE ABOUT THEIR REQUIREMENTS, UH, TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE, THE, THE BUILDINGS ON THE PROJECT SITE.
AND, UH, WE HA WE'VE ESSENTIALLY HAVE ABOUT 16 FEET TO PLAY WITH HERE, UM, WHERE WE CAN ACCOMMODATE, UH, SOME COMBINATION OF BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES AND, UM, AND LANDSCAPING STRIPS.
SO, UH, THIS IS OUR, OUR RECOMMENDED OPTION.
THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH P THE FEEDBACK THAT PBA PROVIDED BACK IN 2020 TO PROVIDE A, TO, TO MAXIMIZE, MAKE THE MOST OF THAT WIDTH, AND, UH, BASICALLY MAXIMIZE IT BY, UM, PROVIDING A, A A TWO-WAY, MULTI-USE TRAIL THAT WOULD ALLOW PEOPLE TO WALK AND BIKE IN BOTH DIRECTIONS ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF, OF NORTH MCDOWELL BOULEVARD, ALONG THAT, ALONG THE PROJECT SITE.
AND THE ALTERNATIVE WOULD BE, UM, A, AN ON-STREET DIRECTIONAL BIKE LANE LIKE WE HAVE TODAY.
AGAIN, THAT, THAT EATS UP A BIT OF, OF, UH, REAL ESTATE AND IT DOES TAKE AWAY THE SIDEWALK WOULD BE NARROWED, UM, SOMEWHERE BETWEEN FIVE AND FIVE AND EIGHT FEET.
AND WE WOULD LIKELY WOULDN'T RECOMMEND, UH, INCLUDING A PLANNING STRIP BECAUSE WE DO EXPECT THIS TO BE A, A PRETTY BUSY SIDEWALK AND FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK IS, IS QUITE NARROW.
SO, UM, THOSE ARE, ARE BASICALLY THE, THE TWO OPTIONS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT.
UM, WANTED TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON THAT.
AND THEN LIKEWISE WITH CORONA ROAD, UM, IT'S CORONA ROAD IS, UH, THERE ARE STILL A LOT OF MOVING PIECES THERE, BUT WE ARE KIND OF, WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE SAME FEEDBACK ON HOW TO MAXIMIZE OUR, OUR RIGHT OF WAY AVAILABILITY AND, AND GET FEEDBACK'S FEEDBACK ON WHETHER YOU WOULD PREFER TO SEE, UM, ON-STREET BIKE LANES VERSUS WIDENED, UH, MULTI-USE PATHWAYS, BASICALLY WIDE SIDEWALKS THAT ARE, THAT, THAT ACCOMMODATE PEOPLE WALKING AND BIKING IN BOTH DIRECTIONS.
SO WITH THAT, HAPPY TO TURN IT OVER TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS.
UM, MARJA, MAY WE START WITH YOU? GOSH, I HAVEN'T SEEN THIS
UM, LOOKING AT THE TWO, I'M LOOKING AT THE PAGE, WHICH IS TITLED NORTH MCDOWELL BOULEVARD, CORONA ROAD TO SMART TRACKS.
UM, I PREFER, I THINK, OR I GUESS I, I NEED QUESTIONS.
IF WE WERE TO DO OPTION NUMBER ONE, UM, WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A MULTI-USE TRAIL FOR BIKES AND PSS, WOULD IT BE STRIPED? YES, WE CAN, WE CAN STRIPE IT, WE CAN, UH, WE COULD DO EDGE LINES AND A DASHED CENTER LINE WOULD BE, WOULD SEEM APPROPRIATE.
MY SECOND, UM, QUESTION IS, UM, ARE THERE GOING TO BE POWER POLES ALLOWED IN THIS AREA? NO, I BELIEVE I, I WOULD HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK, BUT I BELIEVE ALL OF THE UTILITIES ARE BEING UNDERGROUNDED.
UM, LOOKING DOWN AT THE VERY BOTTOM OF THIS PAGE, YOU REFERENCED THIS CLASS ONE TRAIL WOULD PROVIDE ADEQUATE WIDTH FOR TWO-WAY TRAVEL FOR PEOPLE ON FOOT AND BIKE.
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WHAT DO WE, WHAT CONSTITUTES ADEQUATE? SO A CLASS ONE TRAIL, UH, THE MINIMUM WIDTH IS EIGHT FEET WITH TWO FOOT SHOULDERS.AND, UH, SO IN THIS LOCATION WE HAVE 12 FEET AND, UH, YOU COULD COUNT THE PLANTING STRIP WOULD, UH, WOULD, COULD COUNT AS, UM, SHOULDER SPACE.
IT'S BASICALLY, YOU, YOU WANT, YOU NEED A LITTLE BIT OF A SHY, SHY DISTANCE OR A LITTLE BIT OF A BUFFER FROM ANY SORT OF, UM, YOU KNOW, EDGES OF CURBS OR, OR VERTICAL OBJECTS.
UM, BUT 12 FEET IS SUFFICIENT.
SO, UM, SO I'M JUST TRYING TO ENVISION THE SITE WHEN THE HOUSING IS BUILT AND THE TRAIN STATION IS THERE AND, UM, AND YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, A FAIR AMOUNT OF ACTIVITY, UH, IN THIS SPACE.
UM, PERSONALLY, UH, I LIKE THE IDEA OF SEPARATING THE VIKING FROM PEDESTRIANS, UH, FOR, YOU KNOW, THE PEDESTRIAN'S SAKE, YOU KNOW, FOR THE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY.
UM, SO I, I WOULD HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, GIVE MY VOTE TO OPTION TWO.
SORRY, I'M THINKING I JUST GOTTA THINK THIS THROUGH.
YEAH, I THINK I WOULD, I'M WRESTLING WITH THIS AS WELL.
UM, I FEEL LIKE I NEED MORE TIME TO THINK ABOUT, BUT MY GUT FOLLOWS KIND OF WHAT FRANKLIN'S SAYING, JUST AROUND THINKING ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF SEPARATING, YOU KNOW, FASTER BIKES GIVEN MICRO MOBILITY AND ELECTRIC ELECTRIFICATION.
UM, BUT I COULD, YEAH, PROBABLY BE EASILY SWAYED THE OTHER WAY, BUT THAT'S, I GUESS WHERE I'M FEELING INITIALLY IS, I GUESS THAT'S OPTION TWO.
UM, I, I THINK THE PLANTING STRIP ADDS A LOT TO USER EXPERIENCE IN THAT AREA, ACTUALLY.
AND I, I THINK THAT COULD BE NICE.
I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE MAXIMUM DISTANCE FOR BIKE AND PED BETWEEN CARS, AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
UM, I AM THINKING ABOUT THE MOBILE HOME PARK AND LIKE MORE ELDERLY PEOPLE, DISABLED PEOPLE LIVING OVER THERE AND THEIR EXPERIENCE BEING ON A MULTI-USE TRAIL WITH THE BIKES.
AND, UM, I THINK, I THINK THAT IT IS POSSIBLE FOR US TO HAVE BOTH ON THAT SECTION.
IT'S NOT A LONG SECTION, UM, IN LIKE, IN A HARMONIOUS WAY.
UM, AND I'M, I'M TRYING TO THINK ABOUT THE PROJECT, LIKE WHERE THE TRAIN STATION WILL BE, WHERE PEOPLE WILL BE GETTING OFF OF THE TRAIN, WHICH IS LIKE IN THAT ACUTE ANGLE NEAR THE, UM, BRODY RANCH, RIGHT? AND THEN BETWEEN THAT AND NORTH MCDOWELL, THAT'S GOING TO BE PARKING LOT.
I'M IMAGINING PEOPLE WILL BE RIDING THEIR BIKE THROUGH THERE RATHER THAN GETTING ON CORONA.
THAT'S, I THINK, WHAT I WOULD DO.
AND THEN WHAT WOULD THE MOVEMENT BE FROM THERE? WOULD THERE BE LIKE A FENCE OR COULD I JUST GO THROUGH THE PARKING LOT AND GET INTO THAT CORONA INTERSECTION RIGHT THERE TO GET INTO MCDOWELL? OR WOULD I HAVE TO GO UP, GET OFF OF THE TRAIN, CROSS THE TRACKS, GO TO THAT SIGNALED INTERSECTION AND RIDE CORONA DOWN? YEAH, SO I THINK, UH, THERE ARE A FEW PEOPLE ARE GONNA DO A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
UM, THE EXPECTATION FOR PEOPLE BIKING, UH, USING THE SMART TRAIL IS THAT THEY ARE USING CORONA TO GET TO AND FROM BETWEEN THE STATION AND TRAIL.
UM, IF, HOWEVER, I DO THINK THE NATURAL DESIRE LINE MIGHT KIND OF SEND PEOPLE THROUGH THE SITE AND, UH, POSSIBLY HAVE THEM USE THIS, THIS SIDEWALK IN A GOING, GOING SOUTHBOUND, UM, TO GET DOWN TO THAT SIGNALIZE CROSSING AND THEN CONTINUE EITHER ON SOUTHBOUND MCDOWELL OR ON THE SMART TRAIL.
THAT'S A, A VERY LIKELY SCENARIO THAT WILL HAPPEN, I THINK.
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UM, THAT WAS ANOTHER, UH, I THINK MERIT TO THE, TO THE MULTI-USE TRAIL IDEA WAS THAT IT DOES FORMALIZE TWO-WAY BIKE TRAFFIC ON A STRETCH THAT IS, DOES SEEM LIKELY TO HAVE IT.AND IS THERE LIKE THE, THIS BLUE ARROW GOING, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS NORTH ON CORONA, LIKE OH YEAH.
WHERE, WHAT ARE THERE'S NO IMPROVEMENTS GOING TO BE MADE THERE OR IS THERE A WAY THAT THOSE PEOPLE COULD GO THROUGH BRODY RANCH SOMEHOW AND HAVE A SAFER ROUTE? LIKE EVEN NAVIGATING THAT ROUNDABOUT IS A LITTLE BIT TRICKY.
UM, FOR NON-EXPERIENCED CYCLISTS, I WOULD SAY.
YEAH, THERE IS, THERE IS ACCESS, YOU CAN SEE THIS, UH, PATHWAY FROM YEAH, CORONA THAT, THAT LEADS YOU KIND OF INTO BRODY RANCH AND THEN, UM, YOU COULD WIND UP KIND OF THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GO, UM, UP ONTO SNOW MOUNTAIN PARKWAY.
YEAH, THAT WOULD, THAT'S DEFINITELY AN OPTION.
YEAH, MAYBE SOME WAY FINDING THERE WOULD BE HELPFUL.
YEAH, THIS AREA OF CORONA PAST THE TRACKS IS KINDA OUTSIDE OF THIS PROJECT, UH, RIGHT LIMITS.
WE'RE BASICALLY LOOKING AT EVERYTHING FROM THE, FROM THE RAIL, RAIL AND TRAIL CROSSING, UH, TO THE WEST.
I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT, UM, EXCUSE ME, THOUGHT YOU'VE GIVEN TO TRANSITION SINCE WE DO HAVE A LOT OF, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M THINKING ABOUT, I'M GOING NORTH ON MCDOWELL, AND IF IT IS A CLASS ONE, WHAT DOES THAT TRANSITION LOOK LIKE ACROSS CORONA ONTO, LIKE, DO YOU ANTICIPATE GREEN STRIPING ACROSS THAT INTERSECTION? SO BIKES GONNA KEEP GOING, BUT PEOPLE ON THE SIDEWALK WOULD USE THE, THE CROSSWALK OR, UM, I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT THE TRANSITION POINTS FROM DIFFERENT CLASSES AND IF IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO DO A CLASS FOUR JUST FOR CONTINUITY'S SAKE.
UM, I, I COULD BE PERSUADED EITHER WAY, BUT I'M JUST WONDERING ABOUT TRANSITIONS AND THE THOUGHT THERE.
YEAH, THAT'LL NEED SOME CAREFUL DESIGN.
WE, WE DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT, WE HAVE A LITTLE MORE REAL ESTATE AS YOU APPROACH THE INTERSECTION ACTUALLY WHERE, UM, WE MAY EVEN BE ABLE TO, IF WE HAD A, SO IF WE HAD A MULTI-USE TRAIL, WE MAY EVEN BE ABLE TO KIND OF TRANSITION THE BIKE LANE CLASS FOUR OFF OF THE SIDEWALK, BRING IT DOWN TO STREET LEVEL, UP TO THE INTERSECTION, AND THEN LOOK AT, UM, WI WOULD WOULD LOVE TO TRY TO GET SOME SORT OF A PROTECTED, UM, INTERSECTION IN PLACE WHERE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE BIKING DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT SHARING A SIGNAL PHASE WITH RIGHT TURNING TRAFFIC OR THEIR POSITION AHEAD OF THE RIGHT TURNING TRAFFIC THAT'S G THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG, UH, ITEMS THAT WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT.
UM, BUT YEAH, THAT, SO I DON'T HAVE A GOOD ANSWER OTHER THAN WE ARE LOOKING VERY CLOSELY AT THAT TRANSITION BACK AT THE INTERSECTION.
WHAT WAS THE PROPOSED MATERIAL FOR, IF YOU SAID IT, IF IT WAS A, A CLASS ONE, WOULD IT BE, UH, IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE CONCRETE.
UM, IS THERE AT, AT SOME OF THE PROPOSED CROSSINGS OR THOSE PLACES WHERE THERE'S UM, RIGHT ANGLES, AND PEOPLE MIGHT BE JUST REMINDING ME, WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT PAY RAN AND THE LYNCH CREEK TRAIL AND PEOPLE COMING AND TURNING FROM DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS.
UM, DO YOU ANTICIPATE THOSE SPACES BEING SUFFICIENTLY WIDE TO, YOU KNOW, A LONG BIKE MEETS A A, A PARENT WITH A BIG STROLLER OR SOMETHING, UH, TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THOSE TURNS? UH, YOU KNOW, SMART REALLY DRIVES THE DESIGN ON THOSE FACILITIES BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY ARE, UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE RAIL CROSSINGS AND IN A LOT OF, AND IT'S DRIVEN BY BOTH SMART AND, AND THE CPUC.
SO, UH, THERE'S NOT MUCH SAY THAT WE HAVE ON, ON THE DIMENSIONS AND DESIGN OF THOSE, OF THOSE RAIL CROSSINGS, UNFORTUNATELY IS, ARE THE KIND OF THE SAFETY BARS OR WHATEVER THEIR, THE TECHNICAL TERM IS THAT WE HAVE NEAR THE CROSSING, UH, LAKEVILLE IS THAT OUTSIDE OF THE CITY'S JURISDICTION, JURISDICTION TO INFLUENCE TOO, BECAUSE THOSE ARE REALLY CHALLENGING FOR BIKES AS WELL.
YEAH, THAT'S A, THAT'S POINT WELL TAKEN.
UM, YES, THOSE ARE, THOSE WERE PUT IN PLACE BY SMART.
AND, AND THE WHOLE IDEA IS, UH, LIKEWISE, YOU KNOW, THE NEW CROSSING AT, AT PAY RAN, THEY'RE KIND OF USING, UM, CHANNELIZATION TO TRY TO SLOW PEOPLE DOWN AND, UH, AS THEY APPROACH RAIL CROSSINGS.
UH, AND THAT'S, UM, MY UNDERSTANDING
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IS THAT THAT'S ALL KIND OF DRIVEN BY THE, UM, CALIFORNIA PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION.SO, UM, YEAH, ANY, ANY FEEDBACK YOU HAVE ON THOSE CROSSINGS, WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO PASS ALONG TO SMART AND, UH, YEAH, IT COULDN'T HURT
'CAUSE I HEAR I HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS ABOUT, UM, ADAPTIVE BIKES, CARGO BIKES, FANDOM, YOU KNOW, ANY SORT OF NON-TRADITIONAL BIKE.
UH, THOSE CROSSINGS ARE ALL VERY CHALLENGING TO NAVIGATE.
I'LL SAVE MY COMMENTS FOR LATER.
PLEASE DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
UM, SO QUESTIONS, UM, CAN YOU PUT UP THE OPTION ONE, OPTION TWO, JUST SO I CAN SEE, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHICH ONE I'M TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I KNOW WHERE THOSE ARE.
UH, SO I'M, I WOULD LEAN TOWARDS WHAT I'M LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW.
UM, AND ON THE OTHER ONE, WOULD YOU, WOULD WE BE LOOKING AT LIKE, IS THAT LIKE YELLOW, YOU KNOW, BALLARD LOOKING THING? IS THAT A GREEN BALLARD OR IS THAT CONCRETE? WE CAN, UH, THERE MIGHT BE SOME FLEXIBILITY TO, TO DO A DIFFERENT FORM OF PROTECTION HERE.
IF WE WERE TO GO WITH OPTION TWO, WE COULD, WE COULD LOOK AT SOME OTHER OKAY.
AND THEN CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE OTHER ONE? UM, IS THERE A WAY ON THE, THE PLANTING STRIP, I'M LEANING TOWARDS THIS ONE, BUT ON THIS ONE, IS THERE A WAY THAT THE PLANTING STRIP COULD ACTUALLY BE LIKE SOME SORT OF LIKE WATER CATCHMENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TOO SO THAT IT'S NOT JUST CHANNELING WATER OFF, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY CATCHING IT? I BELIEVE SO.
UM, COULD DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT, BUT I BELIEVE SO.
AND THEN WOULD THERE BE ANY TREES OVER ON THAT SIDE OF THE STREET TOO, AND IF SO, WHERE WOULD THEY BE IN THE PLANTING? THE FOUR FOOT PLANTING STRIP OR OVER TO THE RIGHT OF THE 12 FOOT MULTI-USE TRAIL.
SO I'M, I I'M NOT SURE IF WE HAVE ANY IN THE PLANTING STRIP.
THIS IS ALL TREE PLACEMENT ON THIS PROJECT HAS ALL BEEN DRIVEN BY FIRE FOR THEIR ACCESS REQUIREMENTS, UH, FOR A LADDER TRUCK.
UM, BECAUSE THE BUILDINGS EXCEED A CERTAIN HEIGHT THAT, THAT TRIGGERS THEIR, SOME, SOME ACCESS REQUIREMENTS.
I, UM, AND WE ARE, WE ARE WORKING HARD TO MAXIMIZE THE TREE OPPORTUNITIES.
UM, I KNOW THERE ARE SOME ON THE, ON THE PROJECT SIDE OF THIS, OF THE, SO ON TO THE RIGHT OF THE MULTI-USE TRAIL.
UM, NOT SURE IF WE HAVE ANY HERE, BUT THERE, THERE MAY BE I, THAT'S AN ONGOING CONVERSATION
UM, AND THEN ON THE ORIGINAL DRAWING THAT WAS INCLUDED WITH THE STAFF REPORT.
SORRY TO MAKE YOU JUMP AROUND HERE.
SO I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE, THE MERIDIAN, UH, WEBS, UH, WEBPAGE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.
UM, DO YOU KNOW WHERE THE BUS STOP'S GONNA BE? IT'S, IS IT STILL GONNA BE UP TOWARDS THE YEAH, TOWARDS THE, IT'S SOMEWHERE AROUND HERE.
UM, AND THEN, UH, PROPOSED ON STREET DIRECTIONAL BIKE LANES.
CAN YOU JUST, LIKE, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT TERM.
IS IT CLASS, CLASS? WELL, IN, THEY'RE CLASS FOURS FOR US NOW WITH THE GREEN, WITH THE GREEN BALLARDS.
AND THEN SIGNALIZE, UM, WHAT KIND OF SIGNAL ARE YOU THINKING? IS IT JUST LIKE THE PUSH IT AND BLINKS? BLINKS, BLINKS.
THE RRFD, THIS IS A, THIS IS A FULL SIGNAL, UH, DOWN HERE AT THE, UM, FOR THE NEW, WHAT'S CONSIDERED TO BE THE, THE SMART TRAIL CROSSING.
UM, AND THIS, OH, I WISH I HAD JEFF HERE.
I BELIEVE THIS MIGHT ALSO BE A SIGNAL, BUT AT A MINIMUM AS IN LIKE RED LIGHT, GREEN LIGHT, YELLOW LIGHT SIGNAL.
UM, THIS, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE DESIGN AT PAY RAN THIS, THIS COULD BE SOMETHING ELSE.
I'LL, I'LL DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT, BUT, UM, IT'S AT THE, AT A MINIMUM IT WOULD BE A, AN R UH, A FLASHING BEACON, BUT I HAVE A FEELING IT'S A FULL SIGNAL AS WELL.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE FULL SIGNAL.
UM, SO MY FEEDBACK IS, I, I THINK THE 12 FOOT MULTI-USE PATH IS PROBABLY THE, THE BETTER OPTION.
AND I WOULD WANT THAT ON CORONA ROAD AS WELL.
UM, I SHARE THE CHAIR'S CONCERNS ABOUT SENDING BICYCLISTS UP TO, UM, TO THE ROUNDABOUT THERE.
UM, AND JUST THINKING LIKE A KID RIDING THEIR BIKE TO SCHOOL ON CORONA ROAD FROM THIS AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AND JUST LIKE THINKING, WOULD YOU HAVE YOUR KID RIDE YOUR BIKE, RIDE THEIR BIKE ON CORONA ROAD UP TO CORONA CREEK ELEMENTARY? I THINK THAT'S REALLY THE, LIKE, THAT'S THE, UM, THE BAR THAT I THINK WE WANT TO SET WITH THIS PROJECT, UM, AND WHEREVER WE CAN, UM, 'CAUSE IT IS,
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I, I WOULDN'T LET MY KID RIDE THEIR BIKE FROM THERE TO CORONA CREEK ELEMENTARY AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, JUST A STONES THROW AWAY.SO, UM, ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO ADDRESS THAT.
UM, AND, AND THEN I THINK ALSO BECAUSE OF THE COMPLEXITIES THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH HERE, IF WE'RE, IF WE ARE, YOU KNOW, RECOMMENDING KIDS TO GO INTO BRODY RANCH AND THEN POP OUT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND POP ACROSS THE STREET, LIKE OBVIOUSLY WAY FINDING'S GONNA BE REALLY IMPORTANT FOR, FOR THAT WHOLE SHEBANG TOO.
AND I KNOW WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE STREET FUNDERS HERE, BUT, UM, IT'S A REALLY EXCITING PROJECT AND IT'S ALSO A REALLY CHALLENGING PROJECT AS YOU KNOW.
SO, UM, THINK OF THE CHILDREN.
IT WOULD'VE BEEN NICE TO, TO KNOW WHERE, UH, THE CONNECTIONS WOULD BE FROM THE NEW DANKO PROJECT AND ALSO KIND OF THE LAYOUT OF, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE PARKING LOT.
UM, BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, UM, I'M INCLINED A LITTLE BIT MORE TOWARDS OPTION ONE.
UH, AND IT, AND QUESTION I HAVE IS WITH RESPECT TO OPTION TWO, UH, WITH THE SIX FOOT, UH, BIKE LANE.
SO THE EX THE IDEA WOULD BE YOU'D HAVE, UM, CYCLISTS PASSING EACH OTHER, YOU KNOW, IN OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS IN THAT AREA.
SO IF YOU HAVE CYCLISTS GOING IN OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS, THEY'RE BOTH USING THAT SPACE OR THEY'RE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET, AND THAT'S YOUR EXPECTATION.
SO THE EXPECTATION IN THIS OPTION IS THAT, THAT, UH, BECAUSE OF THE WIDTH, THAT'S, THAT'S BA IT'S ONLY INTENDED FOR NORTHBOUND BIKES.
UM, AND, AND THEN ANYONE BIKING SOUTHBOUND, THE EXPECTATION IS THAT THEY WOULD BE RIDING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF NORTH MCDOWELL.
I WONDER IF THAT WOULD REALLY HAPPEN.
UH, I GUESS, UM, BASED ON USE, UH, AND PEOPLE, UM, YOU KNOW, GETTING, GETTING ON, UH, THIS AREA FROM THE NEW AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR FROM SMART.
UM, AND, UH, CAN YOU SAY A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT KIND OF, UM, ON PAVEMENT SIGNAGE THERE WOULD BE IF WE WENT IN THE DIRECTION OF THE 12 FOOT MULTI-USE TRAIL TO HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, SHARED USES AND, UH, SPEED AND THESE KINDS OF THINGS? SO, UM, I WAS SURPRISED IT ACTUALLY DIDN'T COME UP IN KEN'S LYNCH CREEK TRAIL PRESENTATION, BUT, UH, THE GENERAL STRIPING FOR MULTIUSE TRAILS INCLUDES, UH, A WHITE EDGE LINE ON BOTH SIDES TO DEFINE THE, THE EDGE OF THE, OF THE TRAIL.
AND THEN, UH, A DASHED, UM, UH, YELLOW CENTER LINE.
UH, SO IF YOU GO TO MARIN COUNTY, MOST OF THEIR MULTI-USE TRAILS ARE STRIPED THIS WAY.
UM, IT'S SOME, YEAH, LIKE I SAID, WE'LL, WE'LL BE DOING THAT ON THE LYNCH CREEK TRAIL.
UH, AND, AND THE, THE GOAL JUST, YOU KNOW, WHETHER YOU'RE WALKING OR BIKING, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, TO STAY ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE, OF THE DASHED YELLOW LINE.
AND, AND YOU ALSO KNOW THAT YOU CAN PASS, UH, INTO THE OTHER LANE, UM, AS NECESSARY TO PASS OTHER SLOWER MOVING USERS.
SO THE IDEA WOULD BE THEN THAT A CYCLIST WOULDN'T NEED TO, UM, PASS, UH, A PEDESTRIAN IN THE 12 FOOT SECTION.
THEY WOULD HAVE THE FULL USE OF THAT PORTION THAT'S STRIPED ON THEIR SIDE, CORRECT.
THOSE, THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH, YEAH, I MEAN, AFTER, UM, YOU KNOW, TAKING ANOTHER, UH, THINKING ABOUT THIS MORE AND, AND, AND FURTHER UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE'S A NEED FOR TWO-WAY TRAFFIC ON THAT, I WOULD PROBABLY, UM, ALSO, UM, OPT FOR OPTION ONE.
I WOULD THINK THOUGH THAT, UM, THE COMMENT THAT YOU MADE ABOUT THE TRANSITION FROM THE MULTI-USE TRAIL BACK ONTO THE MAIN, UM, BIKE LANE, UH, WOULD BE REALLY IMPORTANT.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, THAT I THINK THERE, YOU KNOW, JUST NEEDS TO BE SOME THOUGHT AND THAT NEEDS TO BE A, YOU KNOW, A, UM, A COHESIVE TRANSITION.
WITH THAT WE'LL OPEN PUBLIC COMMENTS.
THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM.
PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON.
IF YOU HAVEN'T DONE SO ALREADY, PLEASE FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD AND BRING IT TO THE CLERK.
HAVE YOU RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING? YES, THERE WAS ONE COMMENT RECEIVED.
AND I HAVE A COMMENT CARD FROM PAUL RUSSELL.
AS A RESIDENT IN THE AREA, I'M VERY EXCITED.
I LIKE TO BIKE COMMUTE ALONG CORONA AND I ALSO, UH, RIDE OUT THERE WITH THREE YOUNG CHILDREN.
SO I'M VERY EXCITED TO SEE THESE CHANGES.
UM, I DEFINITELY WANNA ENDORSE OPTION NUMBER ONE FOR THE STREET SIDES THAT ARE CONNECTED TO THE PROJECT, BOTH ON MCDOWELL AND CORONA.
I DO THINK PAMELA'S POINT REGARDING TRAFFIC,
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THERE'LL BE TWO-WAY TRAFFIC ON THAT PATH, AT LEAST TO GET BACK TO THE CONNECTOR THAT'S GONNA TAKE YOU, UH, TOWARDS DOWNTOWN.UM, I THINK LOOKING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF CORONA, GOING FROM SONOMA MOUNTAIN TOWARDS NORTH MCDOWELL, I WOULD ALMOST BE IN FAVOR THERE OF THE PROPOSED, THE, UH, THE ONE WAY TRAFFIC LIKE YOU HAVE CURRENTLY ON MCDOWELL.
UM, JUST TO SORT OF KEEP THAT TRAFFIC MOVING.
THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC THAT GOES ALONG CORONA AND THEN OUT TOWARDS THE WEST SIDE AND BEYOND.
UM, SO REALLY THE CLASS ONE ON THE PROJECT SIDE, BUT A DIFFERENT TREATMENT ON THE OTHER SIDE.
I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE RAILROAD CROSSINGS.
SO AGAIN, A LOT OF EMPHASIS, REALLY HOPE SMART GETS THAT RIGHT.
'CAUSE THAT IS DEFINITELY THE MOST DANGEROUS CHOKE POINT OF ANY RIDING I DO WITH MY KIDS IN THE CITY CURRENTLY.
UM, THAT'S JUST A REALLY TOUGH PLACE TO CROSS OVER RIGHT NOW.
SO FOR THE WHOLE CITY, I THINK THAT'S MY, MY BIGGEST FEAR POINT WHENEVER I'M ON A BIKE.
SO I REALLY WANNA SEE THAT ADDRESSED IN THE PROJECT.
AND THEN THE LAST POINT IS JUST KEEPING IN MIND THAT THIS STATION COULD BRING INCREASED PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC TOWARDS THE BREWERIES.
UH, SO WE DO HAVE A DESTINATION SHORT WAY DOWN THE STREET THERE, SO REALLY THINKING ABOUT THE PEDESTRIAN FLOW POTENTIALLY FROM THE STATION, UH, GOING NORTH ON MCDOWELL, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T THINK ABOUT MUCH.
BUT ALSO THERE'S THE WHOLE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, SO IF THE EMPLOYERS ARE LUCKY, MAYBE THEIR STAFF WILL BE THERE.
SO REALLY WANNA THINK ABOUT THOSE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS GOING NORTH INTO THE COMMERCIAL AREA, ADDITION TO WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE RESIDENTIAL.
AND THE LAST PIECE IS THINKING ABOUT, UM, THE PATHWAY THAT'S GOING ALONG THE TRACKS.
UM, THERE'S ALSO, IN ADDITION TO GOING THROUGH IT, I THINK IT'S BIRDIE RANCH, YOU ALSO HAVE A PATHWAY ALONG CORONA CREEK, UH, THAT MY KIDS AND I USE A LOT.
AND SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT CONNECTION STILL TIES INTO HERE.
AND WHEN IT COMES TO WAYFINDING, THE BIRDIE RANCH RESIDENTS MIGHT APPRECIATE THE WAYFINDERS ACTUALLY ENCOURAGING THE CORONA CREEK PATHWAY.
'CAUSE THAT'S A REAL NICE PATH THEN TO GET BACK TOWARDS SONOMA MOUNTAIN AND OTHER AREAS.
SO I DON'T WANNA LOSE TRACK OF THAT PATH, WHICH IS OBSCURED BY THE TREES HERE.
YOU CAN'T SEE IT, BUT IT'S THERE AND IT'S A NICE PATHWAY.
UM, OKAY, I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENT CARDS FOR THIS ITEM, SO WE WILL CLOSE IT AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION MOLE, PLEASE.
YES, SO I'M A LITTLE MORE INCLINED TOWARDS OPTION ONE AND, UM, PART OF MY REASONING THERE IS I THINK THAT THERE ARE GOING TO BE PEOPLE WHO ARE GONNA BE USING THE A 12 FOOT PATH TO GO SOUTHBOUND, EVEN THOUGH THERE ON THE SIDE OF THE STREET WHERE THE TRAFFIC IS GOING NORTHBOUND, BECAUSE I THINK FOR SOME OF THESE OTHER REASONS, LIKE, UM, A, YOU KNOW, MAKING THEIR WAY DOWN TO THE BREWERY THAT'S ON THAT SIDE OF THE STREET, UM, THE REASON THE 12 FOOT IS, UH, SEEMS MORE APPEALING TO ME IS THERE'S A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY AND USE.
I MEAN, UM, YOU CAN HAVE PEOPLE OVERTAKING OTHER PEOPLE, WHETHER THEY'RE WALKING FASTER OR PUSHING THE STROLLER SLOWER, ET CETERA.
AND THERE COULD BE, UM, PED TRAFFIC GOING TWO WAYS THERE, UH, IN SPITE OF WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WE, WHAT WE MIGHT INTEND.
UM, SO I'M A LITTLE MORE INCLINED TOWARDS, TOWARDS THAT.
I LIKE THE FOREFOOT, UH, PLANTER THAT'S SEPARATE.
UM, AND UH, AND I THINK THAT'S A, A NICE DISTINCTION IN THAT AREA.
UM, SO I, I THINK DESPITE THERE BEING OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO, YOU KNOW, KEEP CYCLISTS ON THE PATH TO GO SOUTHBOUND, ET CETERA, I THINK, I THINK WE MIGHT FIND THAT, UM, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A NUMBER OF USER GROUPS NORTHBOUND AND SOUTHBOUND ON THE, ON THE 12 FOOT PATH, AND THAT MAY NOT FUNCTION VERY WELL WITH THE OTHER SEPARATION.
UH, AND TO THE EXTENT WE CAN PUT SOMETHING ON THE PAVEMENT THAT, UH, ENCOURAGES PEOPLE TO KEEP THEIR SPEEDS DOWN, ESPECIALLY COMING UP TO THE RAILROAD CROSSING AND THESE KINDS OF THINGS, AND FOR SOME OF THE OTHER REASONS THAT WERE MENTIONED, WHEN, UM, DIFFERENT TYPES OF BICYCLES ARE LIKELY GOING TO BE MAKING DIFFICULT MANEUVERS, I THINK THAT'D BE VERY HELPFUL.
UH, EVERYTHING THAT PAMELA JUST SAID, UH, REALLY RESONATES WITH ME AS, UH, THE PUBLIC COMMENTER.
THANK YOU FOR THOSE COMMENTS TOO.
IT REALLY HELPS TO HAVE PEOPLE WHO KNOW THE AREA COMMITTING AND, UM, I WISH STACY EARL WAS HERE, BUT I'M GONNA SAY IT FOR, TO TAKE BACK TO THE PARKS.
UM, THERE'S A SMALL LITTLE, UH, CITY OWNED PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT ABUTS TO THIS, AND I JUST THINK IT'S RIPE FOR OPPORTUNITY TO, UM,
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CREATE SOME SORT OF A PULL FOR BRINGING PEOPLE TO THE TRAIN.UM, THERE WAS A TIME WHEN I THOUGHT THE THE NEW SKATE PARK COULD GO THERE AND WE COULD HAVE PEOPLE RIDING SMART TO RIDE THIS, UH, SKATE PARK, UM, YOU KNOW, A BASKETBALL COURT, I DON'T KNOW, A TONK COURT WITH SOME WAY TO ACTIVATE THAT AND GET MORE PEOPLE, UM, WALKING AND BIKING TO THAT AS A DESTINATION.
UM, SO I'M JUST GONNA KEEP STANDING ON MY SOAPBOX FOR THAT LITTLE PIECE OF, UM, PROPERTY.
SO YEAH, I'LL, I'LL REITERATE IN COMMENT FORM.
UM, IF THE CITY CAN SHARE WITH SMART AN EMPHASIS ON THINKING THROUGH THOSE ANGULAR TURNS, MAYBE SOME YIELD SIGNAGE IF A CERTAIN DIRECTION SHOULD BE YIELDING, BUT REALLY THINKING THROUGH SO WE DON'T HAVE CONFLICT POINTS.
UM, AND THEN THINKING ABOUT SOME OTHER SOLUTIONS THAT WILL SLOW BIKES DOWN BUT NOT INHIBIT THEIR MOVEMENT LIKE THE BARS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
UM, AND THEN JUST TWO QUESTIONS.
BJORN, DID YOU MENTION A TIMELINE FOR THE CITY'S PIECE OF THIS? AND THEN, UM, AND IT'S PROBABLY IN THE STAFF REPORT, SO I APOLOGIZE.
AND THEN WILL THERE BE LIGHTING ALONG CORONA ROAD OR IS THAT PART OF THE, LIKE PEDESTRIAN SCALE LIGHTING, IF THAT IS, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE STREET LIGHTING LOOKS LIKE THERE.
UH, SO FOR ANY FRONTAGE IMPROVEMENTS OF THIS, UH, SCALE GENERALLY, YEAH, WE, WE DO TRY TO, UM, TO, UH, UNDERGROUND UTILITIES AND PROVIDE, UH, STREET LIGHTING, UM, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE'S, UH, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, ALIGNED WITH THESE, WITH THESE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.
SO, UM, I CAN, I CAN DOUBLE CHECK ON THOSE FOR YOU, BUT I BELIEVE SO THAT THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED.
UH, I ACTUALLY DO NOT KNOW OF THE, OF THE TIMING, SO WE'LL ALSO REPORT BACK ON THAT.
UM, I THINK I ACCIDENTALLY INSERTED ALL MY COMMENTS AND MY QUESTIONS, SO I'M GONNA STICK WITH OPTION ONE AND ECHO EVERYONE ELSE'S COMMENTS.
UM, INCLUDING, UM, I BELIEVE ROBIN GRAHAM THAT WROTE IN, I, I APPRECIATED THE COMMENTS REGARDING THE CHALLENGES WITH THE SMART CROSSING ONTO THEIR, THEIR PATHWAYS AND THE IN THE RAILWAY.
UM, BJORN, I JUST EMAILED YOU SOMETHING.
I'M WONDERING IF YOU COULD JUST BRING UP AN IMAGE.
UM, I WAS ACTUALLY THINKING, YEAH, I'M KIND OF JOINING AND REALIZ REALIZING ALSO THAT HAVING MORE PROTECTION FOR A MULTI-USE TRAIL OPTION ONE REALLY MAKES A LOT OF SENSE GIVEN THE TRUCK TRAFFIC.
UM, I WOULD PROPOSE MAYBE GOING JUST A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, ESPECIALLY FOR THE FRONTAGE, UM, ON NORTH MCDOWELL, UH, AND THINKING ABOUT JUST THE FLOW OF PEOPLE COMING OUT OF THE SMART STATION, UM, AND HOW THAT KIND OF CREATES A TA LITTLE BIT, THAT FLOW COMING OUT AND THEN THEY HIT NORTH MCDOWELL AND CAN GO LEFT AND CAN GO RIGHT.
UH, AND THERE'S, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ENOUGH SPACE, BUT WHAT I WAS TRYING TO THINK ABOUT WAS LIKE HAVING, UM, SOMETHING THAT'S ALMOST JUST DITCHING THE, THE LANDSCAPE PLANTING BASICALLY FOR THAT SECTION AND JUST REALLY MAXIMIZING THE SPACE FOR PEOPLE TO MOVE.
I THINK THERE'S GONNA BE OPPORTUNITIES FOR LANDSCAPING EVERYWHERE, BUT THIS SECTION IN PARTICULAR JUST SEEMS LIKE YOU REALLY HAVE TO FIT AS MANY PEOPLE IN THERE AS POSSIBLE.
THIS WAS SOMETHING, AN EXAMPLE THAT CAME OUT OF BOULDER THAT WAS LIKE TALL CURBS.
SO KIND OF HALF THE SIZE, A REGULAR KIND OF HIGHWAY BARRIER MIGHT BE OR SOMETHING.
BUT IT JUST STRUCK ME AS A COOL EXAMPLE, AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF IT'S LEGAL IN CALIFORNIA, BUT AS A WAY TO STILL FEEL PROTECTED.
UM, JUST ANOTHER OPTION FOR US TO MAYBE CONSIDER, UM, AGAIN, NOT KNOWING THE LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS, BUT IN THIS APPLICATION, JUST THINKING HOW THAT COULD BE A NICE, TRYING TO INCORPORATE IN PUBLIC ART TOO.
YOU CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH WITH BOLLARDS TO PAINT THEM.
UM, SO THIS GIVES A SENSE OF THAT CONTINUITY THAT YOU CAN MAYBE STILL PROVIDE A LITTLE EXTRA LEVEL OF PROTECTION TO.
SO YEAH, JUST TO YEAH, PROPOSAL TO SAY, EXPAND THAT FRONT PART, GET RID OF THE LANDSCAPING AND JUST TRY TO THINK OF SOMETHING CREATIVE TO BE ABLE TO SEPARATE TRACK TRAFFIC.
'CAUSE I DON'T THINK YOU CAN CREATE, I WAS THINKING LIKE A TWO-WAY CYCLE TRACK, BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S ENOUGH SPACE FOR THAT.
SO JUST REALLY MAXIMIZING THAT MULTI-USE PATHWAY SPACE.
AND THAT WAS, SORRY, PLEASE RE UH,
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CAN YOU, CAN YOU SAY AGAIN WHERE YOU WERE? YEAH, THIS WAS THAT SECTION, UM, IN BETWEEN, UM, CORONA ROAD AND THEN THE, THE CROSSING FOR, UM, GOTCHA.SO KIND OF ON THE, UH, EAST SIDE OF NORTH MCDOWELL.
MM-HMM,
AND AGAIN, THIS IS ALL KIND OF TRICKY TO FIGURE OUT 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE, THE SITE PLANS TO KNOW WHERE THOSE FLOWS ARE GOING TO BE, BUT CONCEPTUALLY THAT MAKES SENSE.
THERE'S, YOU KNOW, TO SIMPLIFY, THERE'D BE PEOPLE COMING OUT FROM THERE.
SO GIVING PEOPLE THE MOST SPACE TO MOVE AROUND.
I THINK THAT'S AN, AN EXCELLENT IDEA.
UM, I AM FOR OPTION ONE CHIEFLY BECAUSE IT PROVIDES GREATER SAFETY FOR BIKES AND PETS, AND PARTICULARLY FOR KIDS AND FOR SENIORS WHO LIVE IN, UM, THE TRAILER, UH, ACCOMMODATIONS ACROSS, ACROSS NORTH MCDOWELL.
UM, I LOVE THE IDEA, I MEAN, I VERY MUCH LIKE THE IDEA AND UNDERSTAND THE IDEA OF USING, UH, FOLIAGE AND GREENERY AS THE FOUR FOOT BORDER.
UM, BUT IT APPEALS TO ME IF WE COULD, THE IDEA THAT WE WOULD HAVE 16 FEET TO WORK WITH.
UM, THAT'S, THAT'S MORE WHAT WE NEED, I THINK OUT THERE.
JUST, UM, AS ADAM MENTIONED, YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE COMING OFF THE TRAIN.
HOPEFULLY THERE ARE LOTS OF FOLKS WITH BICYCLES, UM, WHICH WHO ARE GOING TO USE OUR PATHWAYS ONE IN ONE PLACE OR ANOTHER.
WE'VE GOT PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING IN TO PICK UP THE TRAIN.
UM, WE CAN USE ALL THE SPACE WE CAN GENERATE.
SO OPTION, OPTION ONE, UM, BUT WITHOUT THE FOLIAGE STRIP.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE COMMITTEE? NOPE.
MOVING ON TO NUMBER FOUR, DRUM ROLL REVIEW AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON THE DRAFT ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PROJECT MAPS.
AND BJORN, I BELIEVE YOU ARE PRESENTING THIS.
LET ME JUST, UH, SORRY, TOGGLE AROUND HERE.
UM, ADMITTEDLY I DO NOT KNOW HOW THIS IS GOING TO GO, SO WE'RE GONNA TRY IT THOUGH.
UM, UH,
AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR HELPING US COLLECT FEEDBACK ON, UH, ON, ON THE DRAFT ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN MAPS.
UM, SO I DID WANT TO, UH, PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMITTEE TO DISCUSS THE MATHS AS A WHOLE.
UM, YOU CAN BE AS SPECIFIC AS YOU'D LIKE WITH ANY, UH, CHANGES YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE TO THE MAPS.
UM, I'LL BRING THEM UP ON THE SCREEN HERE AND MOVE AROUND AND ADD STICKY NOTES.
UH, SO WE'LL KIND OF DO IT THROUGH A VIRTUAL FORMAT, BUT I DO ALSO WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT, UM, I WOULD ALSO, A COUPLE OF YOU HAVE ALREADY SENT IN SOME WRITTEN COMMENTS.
AND, UH, LIKEWISE FOR THE PUBLIC ON OUR ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN WEBPAGE, WE HAVE A COMMENT FORM AND AS WELL AS MY EMAIL ADDRESS, WHICH YOU CAN JUST SEND, SEND COMMENTS TO DIRECTLY.
SO I HAVE GOTTEN A HANDFUL OF EMAILS FROM, UH, COMMUNITY MEMBERS WITH VERY DETAILED FEEDBACK.
UM, SO JUST LOOKING FOR MORE OF THE SAME TONIGHT.
UM, AND AGAIN, NO PRESSURE IF, UH, DON'T FEEL LIKE THIS IS THE, THE LAST CHANCE TO, UM, ADD COMMENTS.
I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO DO THIS AND, UM, UH, SO THAT WE CAN GET AS MANY, UH, COMMENTS AS POSSIBLE IN OUR NEXT ROUND OF, OF MAP PROVISIONS.
UM, SO WITH THAT, I WILL, UM, I'M HAPPY TO PULL THE MAP UP AND, UM, AND WE CAN, I'VE GOT ALL, I'VE GOT THREE DIFFERENT MAPS, UH, THAT WE CAN LOOK AT.
WE'VE GOT THE, THE PROPOSED BIKE NETWORK, UM, WE'VE GOT THE PROPOSED, UH, WE'VE GOT THE SIDEWALK GAPS AND TRAIL NETWORK, AND THEN WE'VE, OOPS, I MUST HAVE SKIPPED ONE.
AND THEN JUST THE TRAIL NETWORK.
SO, UM, UH, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF WHAT WOULD BE, I, I, I THINK WE CAN JUST KIND OF TREAT THIS AS A, A WORKSHOP ITEM.
UM, WE'LL START WITH THE COMMITTEE.
I'LL TOGGLE AROUND, ADD ADD COMMENTS IF YOU CAME PREPARED WITH ANY TONIGHT.
UM, OR WE CAN, UH, AND, AND ONCE YOU'RE THROUGH, WE CAN, WE CAN, UH, DO THE SAME WITH THE PUBLIC.
UH, BUT AGAIN, PLEASE SEND ME WRITTEN COMMENTS.
UH, DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU, WE NEED TO COVER EVERYTHING TONIGHT.
IF, UH, IF YOU STILL HAVEN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO,
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UM, DO A DETAILED REVIEW, I'LL, I'LL ALSO SAY WE'VE GOT, I'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS AROUND THE BIKEWAY TYPES THAT ARE SHOWN HERE, UH, WITH QUEST, YOU KNOW, IF I'M SEEING AN ON-STREET BIKE LANE, DOES THAT MEAN IT'S A CLASS TWO OR A CLASS FOUR? AND, AND THE GOAL WITH THIS MAP WAS TO KEEP IT AS SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE AND, UM, AND, UH, AND BASICALLY WOULD GO THROUGH THAT EXERCISE OF DETERMINING CLASS TWO VERSUS CLASS FOUR, UH, WITH PROJECT IMPLEMENTATION.SO, UM, WE HAVE ALWAYS ENVISIONED, INCLUDING A STATEMENT WITH THIS, WITH THIS PLAN THAT THE CITY WILL STRIVE TO PROVIDE ALL AGES AND ABILITIES BIKEWAYS.
UM, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S, UH, SO THAT'S OUR, OUR, OUR GOAL WHENEVER WE ARE IMPLEMENTING A NEW BIKEWAY PROJECT OR UPGRADING AN EXISTING BIKEWAY, IS TO, TO MAKE SURE IT, IT, UH, MEETS THE, THE NTO ALL AGES NOBILITIES DESIGN CRITERIA, WHICH IS, UH, WHICH WAS ATTACHED IN THE, OR LINKED IN THE STAFF REPORT.
UM, SO JUST TO TRY TO SIMPLIFY THE MAP HERE AND AVOID THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, GOING DOWN, UH,
BUT, UM, UH, I AM, WE ARE ALSO HAPPY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF COMMENTS ABOUT WHERE PEOPLE THINK PROTECTED BIKE LANES ARE NEEDED, AND, AND GENERALLY I THINK WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD SENSE OF THE, OF THE CRITERIA THAT, THAT PEOPLE ARE, UM, APPLYING WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY PROVIDE THOSE COMMENTS.
IT'S CONSISTENT WITH WHAT NATO OUTLINES, THE BUSIER STREET IS, THE GREATER THE NEED FOR PHYSICAL PROTECTION AND SEPARATION.
SO I JUST WANTED TO, TO KIND OF HIGHLIGHT THAT, UM, BEFORE WE, UM, BEFORE WE STARTED HERE.
UM, CAN I, SO SHOULD WE OPEN PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN HAVE A DISCUSSION? OR I SHOULD MOVE TO QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW? I THINK WE CAN, WE CAN TRY, YEAH, IF, LET'S START WITH QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE AND THEN, UM, AND THEN WE CAN GO PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN YEAH, WE CAN, YEAH.
UM, MARJA, I'LL START WITH YOU.
DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FIRST OFF? UM, I HAVE LOTS OF COMMENTS, NOT LOTS.
I HAVE SEVERAL COMMENTS REGARDING EACH MAP, BUT IT'S MORE, MORE, DID WE THINK THIS THROUGH? IT'S REALLY NOT A NEIGHBORHOOD GREENWAY, IT'S THIS KIND OF A ROADWAY, UM, THAT KIND OF THING.
SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE HERE.
YEAH, I THINK WE CAN DO THE DURING DISCUSSION.
SO ONE QUESTION, THIS THIS GETS, UH, IN, IN, UH, A LITTLE BIT DETAIL, BUT I'M WONDERING IF YOU CAN, SO I'M, I'M THINKING, I'M LOOKING AT, UM, SORT OF THIS, UM, THE AREA THAT'S ON LAKEVILLE, UH, I'LL TRY TO DESCRIBE IT.
SO IF YOU CAN GO TO THE INTERSECTION OF LAKEVILLE AND, UM, MCDOWELL, UM, RIGHT THERE.
SO JUST TO THE RIGHT OF THAT, YOU SEE, SO, SO WHERE THAT IS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A, A BRIDGE THAT GOES OVER A CREEK AND THAT'S A, THE TRAIL THAT YOU SEE COMING INTO THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A TRAIL THAT GOES, YOU KNOW, ALONG THAT CREEK.
UM, IS THERE ANYTHING PLANNED THERE AND WHAT IS THAT? YEAH, SO THAT THESE BLACK DOTS REPRESENT SOME FORM OF CROSSING OR INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT, AND THAT HAS BEEN A FREQUENT, FREQUENT REQUEST THROUGH THE SOCIAL PINPOINT MAP AND SEVERAL COMMENTS AT THE, AT THE OPEN HOUSE, UH, FOR SOME SORT OF, UH, ADOBE CREEK TRAIL CROSSING AT THAT LOCATION, UH, TO FACILITATE THE, UM, 'CAUSE IT, YEAH, YOU HAVE TRAILS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET.
IT FOLLOWS THE CREEK, IT LEADS RIGHT INTO SCHOENBERGER PARK.
IT'S A VERY, IT'S A LOGICAL CONNECTION, UM, WHETHER THAT WOULD BE AT GRADE AND, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD REQUIRE SOME SORT OF NEW, EITHER A NEW SIGNAL OR A WHAT'S CALLED A, A, A PEDESTRIAN HYBRID BEACON.
UM, IT DEFINITELY NEEDS SOMETHING ROBUST.
IF IT IS AT, IF IT IS ACROSS LAKEVILLE, WE COULD LOOK AT THE FEASIBILITY OF GOING UNDERNEATH UNDER LAKEVILLE, UH, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WITH THE LYNCH CREEK TRAIL CROSSING OF NORTH MCDOWELL.
I JUST HAVING KIND OF EYEBALLED IT DOESN'T LOOK FEASIBLE, BUT SOMETHING, SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO EXPLORE EITHER WAY.
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WE'LL, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S A CALTRANS ROAD, SO WE'LL HAVE TO ENGAGE CALTRANS, BUT YEAH, THAT'S A, THAT'S BEEN A VERY POPULAR REQUEST.YEAH, SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, JUST BEING REALLY FAMILIAR WITH THAT AREA.
I THINK ADDING LIGHTS, UM, ON LAKEVILLE THERE WOULD BE TOUGH GIVEN THE FACT THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST A FEW, YOU KNOW, JUST A FEW FEET, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU'VE GOT LIGHTS ON BOTH SIDES OF IT, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, BEING FAMILIAR WITH THAT AREA, YOU MAY WANNA GO.
IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT, YOU MAY WANNA LOOK AT IT.
I THINK THERE MAY BE THE POTENTIAL TO GO UNDER THAT BRIDGE.
SO, UM, AND IT, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE A BIG LIFT TO BUILD, YOU KNOW, THAT TRAIL TO GO DOWN UNDERNEATH IT.
UM, UH, ASIDE FROM THAT, ANY OTHER COMMENTS THAT I HAVE? I, I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHAT YOU WERE, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT THE THINKING WAS THERE.
UM, BUT I'LL, I'LL SEND ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE BY EMAIL AND, AND YEAH, NO, IT'S A GOOD, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID DO IS WE ADDED, UH, WE CALLED OUT, UM, TRAIL CROSSING IMPROVEMENTS PRETTY MUCH ANYWHERE WHERE A TRAIL CROSSES A, UM, UH, WHERE A TRAIL CROSSES A, A MAJOR ROADWAY.
AND I'M EVEN SEEING A COUPLE, LIKE, THERE'S THE ELI BOULEVARD TRAIL CROSSING FOR WASHINGTON CREEK TRAIL.
THAT'S ONE THAT DEFINITELY NEEDS TO BE, UM, UH, I'M JUST GONNA ADD IT RIGHT NOW.
IT'S A NOTE, UM, BECAUSE I'M JUST CATCHING THAT, THAT YEAH, OUR, OUR GOAL IS TO PROVIDE SEAMLESS CONNECTIVITY WITH ALL OF THE TRAILS, UM, AND MAKE SURE THAT WHEN YOU HIT A MAJOR ARTERIAL ROAD, YOU'RE NOT, YOU DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, IT, YOU, IT, WE WANT THOSE, THOSE CONNECTIONS BE SEAMLESS.
ADAM, UH, NO QUESTIONS, NO QUESTIONS FOR ME EITHER, KELLY.
UM, JUST A, YEAH, QUESTION CLARIFICATION.
SO IF ON THE ENVISIONED, UH, BIKE NETWORK MAP, THE FIRST ONE, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, PETALUMA BOULEVARD IS A CLASS TWO AT THE MOMENT, AND THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ANY DELINE DELINEATION ON THIS MAP TO SAY THAT IS WOEFULLY INADEQUATE ON PETAL AND BOULEVARD NORTH.
UM, BUT SO THIS WOULD WORK IN TANDEM WITH SOME KIND OF REFERENCE TO A NTO STANDARD THAT IT SHOULD BE MORE THAN THAT? YES.
AND WE WILL, WE WILL ALSO BE, UH, WHEN WE'RE, SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST KIND OF DOING THIS MAPPING EXERCISE TO IDENTIFY ALL OF THE, UH, IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE NEEDED AND, AND THAT WE WILL BE LOOKING AT, UM, FACILITIES LIKE, YOU KNOW, PETMAN BOULEVARD NORTH IS CONSIDERED AN EXISTING BIKE BIKE FACILITY BECAUSE IT'S AN EXISTING CLASS TWO, BUT WE KNOW THAT A STREET OF THAT VOLUME AND SPEED SHOULD BE A CLASS FOUR.
SO THAT'LL BE, THAT WOULD BE IDENTIFIED AS A PROJECT AND THEN KIND OF PUT IN THE, UH, IN THE HOPPER FOR PRIORITIZATION.
UM, AND, AND WE'LL APPLY ALL THE CRITERIA TO, UM, SO YEAH, THAT, THAT'S A, A SEPARATE EXERCISE FOR NOW.
WE'RE JUST, AGAIN, TRYING TO KEEP THE APP AS SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE TO, UM, UH, IDENTIFY THE BIKE, THE, THE BIKE NETWORK AT THE BASIS FOR THE NETWORK.
AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL GO THROUGH THAT EXERCISE.
AND I THINK THERE JUST MIGHT BE A VERY SMALL TYPO ON THE SIDEWALK APP ONE, UM, THE THIRD MAP, IT SAYS ON, ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET, SO I THINK THERE'S JUST A REPEAT WORD.
ON THE, ON THE THIRD, UM, THE SIDEWALK APP MAP AND IT SAYS SIDEWALK APP.
CAN I, I DO HAVE A QUESTION NOW.
UM, BASED ON THIS ENVISION TRAIL MAPS, SO THERE, THERE ARE, ARE THERE PRIORITY PROJECTS, PRIORITIZED PROJECTS CURRENTLY? OR I KNOW LIKE FUNDING COMES UP AND THAT CHANGES, BUT DO WE HAVE LIKE A LIST OF PRIORITIZED PROJECTS? THE, THE EXISTING PRIORITY PRO PRIORITIZATION IS, IS DONE BY CITY COUNCIL THROUGH THE ADOPTION OF THE, OF THE, OF THE ANNUAL, UH, CIP CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, UH, PROJECT BUDGET.
SO THAT'S, SO ANY PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THERE HAVE KIND OF BEEN IDENTIFIED AS A PRIORITY IN SOME FORM BY THE COMMUNITY AND, AND CITY COUNCIL.
UH, THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN WILL HAVE ITS OWN PRIORITIZATION CRITERIA APPLIED, WHICH, UM, FAIR AND PARIS IS PRESENTED ON A COUPLE OF TIMES TO KIND OF GET FEEDBACK ON WHAT THE, THAT CRITERIA LOOKS LIKE, RIGHT.
UM, OR WHAT CRITERIA WE APPLY.
SO THE, THE PLAN, THIS PLAN WILL GENERATE ITS OWN PRIORITY PROJECT
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LIST AND, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, US AS STAFF AND CITY COUNCIL WILL HAVE THE BENEFIT, UH, OF THAT LIST TO INFORM FUTURE BUDGETS AND, AND FIGURE OUT WHERE WE'RE, UM, PRIOR WHICH PROJECTS WE'RE PRIORITIZING FROM THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN.BUT IF WE'RE GOING OFF OF, YEAH, GOING OFF OF THE EXISTING BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN MASTER PLAN, WE DON'T KNOW, WE REALLY DON'T HAVE THAT.
SO AFTER THIS PLAN IS APPROVED AND ADOPTED BY COUNCIL, THEN THEY ARE, WILL BE PRIORITY WITHIN THEIR BUDGET? WELL, THEY, THEY WOULD STILL, THAT'S STILL SUBJECT TO THEIR, UH, THAT'S, THEY HAVE THAT DISCRETION EVERY YEAR WHEN THEY ADOPT THE BUDGET TO, UH, THEY ULTIMATELY DECIDE WHAT GOES IN IT.
SO THIS WILL BE A RESOURCE FOR THEM.
I'LL PROBABLY ASK YOU THIS QUESTION IN A COUPLE MORE MONTHS.
OKAY, BRIAN, JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
UM, I MEAN, SOME OF THE MOST CONTROVERSIAL STREETS RIGHT NOW ARE ESSENTIALLY UNDECIDED.
SO CAN YOU SAY WHAT THE PROCESS IS FOR, OR LIKE WHAT YOU'D LIKE US TO OFFER IN TERMS OF FACILITY TYPE TO BE DETERMINED PENDING CORRIDOR STUDY? UM, SOME OF THOSE ARE LIKE WHERE I MIGHT HAVE MY STRONGEST OPINIONS.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THAT ON, WE HAVE ONE ON CORONA ROAD.
WE'VE GOT, UM, THE NARROWER STRETCH OF PAY RAN.
UH, WE'VE GOT BODEGA, WE'VE GOT WASHINGTON NARROW, THE NARROW STRETCH OF LAKEVILLE, AND THEN WE'VE GOT, UM, MOUNTAIN VIEW.
SO YEAH, REALLY ALL OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A, A VERY HIGH LEVEL KIND OF JUST, UM, FEASIBILITY, UH, ANALYSIS.
I DON'T EVEN WANNA CALL IT AN ANALYSIS.
IT IS BASICALLY MYSELF AND, AND JEFF RUBAL, UM, WITH OUR KNOWLEDGE OF THE, THE CONSTRAINED WIDTHS OF EACH OF THOSE ROADWAYS SAYING WE REALLY DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW WE WOULD GET A, UH, A BIKE FACILITY IN HERE WITHOUT SOME MAJOR CHANGES TO THE ROADWAY CONFIGURATION.
SO IT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT WARRANTS A STUDY, BUT THAT'S CERTAINLY OPEN TO FEEDBACK.
AND, UH, FROM THE, FROM PBA AND THE, AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF COMMENTS ABOUT, UH, EAST WASHINGTON STREET.
UM, AND IT, YEAH, IT IS HELPFUL TO KNOW, I THINK WHERE PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO SEE US, UH, YOU KNOW, WHICH OF THOSE STUDIES IS A PRIORITY.
DO YOU AGREE THAT A STUDY IS NECESSARY? WHAT, YOU KNOW, JUST TELL US WHAT YOU THINK AND WE WILL TRY TO MAKE SENSE OF IT.
UH, SECOND QUESTION, UM, IT'S NOT EASY TO TELL, UM, WHAT IF, IF HOPPER STREET IS INCLUDED, AND I KNOW THIS BODY, THE COUNCIL HAS RAISED THIS, BUT, UM, I DON'T SEE HOPPER STREET ON THERE.
IS IT ON THERE? YES, I GUESS, AND IF NOT, CAN FORECAST SOME OF MY YEAH.
UM, YEAH, THIS, THIS IS HOPPER STREET, UH, RIGHT HERE ALONG THE TRACKS.
AND, UM, WE ARE ENVISIONING SOME SORT OF CLASS ONE FACILITY ALONG THERE, UM, WHETHER IT WOULD REQUIRE, WHERE, WHETHER IT COULD BE DONE ON CITY RIGHT OF WAY, PRIVATE RIGHT OF WAY, SMART RIGHT OF WAY.
THAT'S ALL SUBJECT TO, YOU KNOW, EACH, EACH OF THESE PROJECTS IS GOING TO BE SUBJECT OBVIOUSLY TO SOME LEVEL OF DESIGN AND, AND, AND ENGINEERING AND, UM, ALL SORTS OF OTHER APPROVALS.
SO WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO IS WE ARE GOING TO PULL OUT ANY PROJECT THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY INVOLVE, UH, ANOTHER AGENCY, UM, ESPECIALLY SMART AND, AND KIND OF SIT DOWN WITH THEM AND WALK THROUGH EACH OF THESE AND UNDERSTAND THEIR CONCERNS.
AND, UM, AND, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE FOR EACH OF THE PROJECTS, NOTING ANY, UH, GIVING IT A, A FEASIBILITY RATING.
UM, SO IF ANYTHING THAT SEEMS POTENTIALLY CHALLENGING OR MAYBE REQUIRING RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION, OBVIOUSLY IT WOULD BE, WOULD RECEIVE A LOWER FEASIBILITY RATING THAN SOMETHING WHERE WE'VE GOT A REALLY WIDE STREET AND WE KNOW ALL IT WOULD TAKE IS TO NARROW TRAVEL LANES AND WE'VE GOT A NEW BIKEWAY.
SO, UM, YEAH, THAT, THAT, THAT WILL GO INTO IT.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER CLARIFYING QUESTIONS? OKAY, THEN WE WILL OPEN THIS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM.
PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON.
IF YOU HAVEN'T DONE SO ALREADY, PLEASE FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD AND BRING IT TO THE CLERK.
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AND CLERK, UM, DID YOU RECEIVE PUBLIC COMMENTS POSTED ONLINE PRIOR TO THIS MEETING? THERE WAS ONE PUBLIC COMMENT RECEIVED.AND MY FIRST COMMENT CARD IS FROM DAVID FELIX.
UH, JUST A FEW KIND OF QUESTIONS AND I'M, I'M SORRY IF THIS IS, UH, KIND OF BACKTRACKING.
I WASN'T AT THE, UH, THE PUBLIC MEETING, SO TRYING TO COME UP TO SPEED HERE, BUT, UM, WE JUST TALKED ABOUT IT.
SO I WAS, UH, JUST KIND OF FRESH IN MY MIND HERE.
THERE'S NOTHING IDENTIFIED BETWEEN, UH, THE NEW SMART, UH, PROJECT YOU WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT AT CORONA AND MCDOWELL UP TO ELI ROAD, AND THAT SEEMED LIKE IT MIGHT BE A KIND OF A MISSING PIECE.
IT'S A HALF MILE IT LOOKS LIKE, UM, AND THERE'S, UH, ELEMENTARY AND JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL UP THERE.
UH, SO ALSO A NARROW, DANGEROUS ROAD.
SO I'D LIKE TO SEE YOU GUYS ADD THAT ONE TO THE LIST SOMEHOW.
UM, I GUESS I'M FINDING THE DELINEATION BETWEEN THE, THE ORANGE AND THE LIGHT GREEN LINES KIND OF CONFUSING WHEN YOU'VE, UH, PRESENTED THINGS IN THE PAST.
YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT ALL AGES AND ABILITIES AND, UH, HAVING LIKE PROTECTED AND LIKE THE FACT THAT THE LIGHT GREEN IS, UH, PAINTED ON PAVEMENT WITH OR WITHOUT BUFFERS SEEMS LIKE A KIND OF AN IMPORTANT DISTINCTION.
IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO KNOW, LIKE, ARE THEY SAFE FOR ALL AGE IN ABILITIES OR NOT? SO LIKE, KIND OF WHERE YOU'RE DRAWING THAT DISTINCTION, I THINK IS MAYBE A LITTLE CONFUSING OR, UM, HARD TO TELL, LIKE, IS IT GONNA BE A, UM, ALL AGES IN ABILITIES ROAD OR NOT? UM, ALSO JUST KIND OF SOME OF THE ROADS IN HERE, I'M, I GUESS IT'S A LITTLE SURPRISING OR CONFUSING.
LIKE I STREET, UM, IS IDENTIFIED AS ORANGE AS A SMALL RESIDENTIAL STREET FOR BIKES AND VEHICLES TO SHARE THE ROAD.
I GUESS I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE THAT.
SO IT'S, IT JUST, IT, IT'S HARD TO KIND OF TIE ALL THE PIECES TOGETHER.
I'M LOOKING AT, UH, THE SECOND MAP AND IT LOOKS KIND OF BARREN, UH, TO GET FROM, YOU KNOW, ONE.
SO I'M LIKE TRYING TO THINK LIKE ENVISION LIKE TAKING WHAT'S ON SLIDE ONE AND FIGURE OUT LIKE HOW DO YOU LIKE, CONNECT ALL THESE STRAGGLING LIKE TRAILS TOGETHER.
UH, WHICH I THINK IS KIND OF THE GOAL.
UH, SO IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO MAKE THE MENTAL LEAP FROM SLIDE ONE TO SLIDE TWO AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT LIKE, ARE SOME OF THESE LIGHT GREEN ONES GONNA BE ALL AGENT ABILITIES OR NOT? UM, SO I JUST, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY OF MAKING THAT MORE CLEAR AND, UH, I'LL STAND ON MY SOAPBOX AGAIN IF I CAN.
UH, JUST TO REMIND YOU ALL ABOUT THE 2030 VISION ZERO AND, AND CLIMATE GOALS.
AND, UH, JUST TO TRY TO KEEP THAT IN MIND FOR EVERYBODY THAT IF, IF Y'ALL ARE SERIOUS ABOUT DOING THAT, IT'S, UH, WE'RE ALMOST IN 2024 HERE.
UM, AND TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT AS MANY OF THESE, UM, ROADS AS YOU CAN MAKE ALL AGES AND ABILITIES ACCESSIBLE AS POSSIBLE IS IMPORTANT.
UH, IF KIDS CAN'T RIDE ON THE ROAD SAFELY, THEN PARENTS CAN'T GET OUTTA THEIR CARS.
UH, AND THAT'S KINDA WHAT WE'RE ALL TRYING TO DO, ESPECIALLY WITH E-BIKES AND ALL THE OTHER OPTIONS.
I JUST GOT AN E-BIKE A FEW DAYS AGO AND READY TO GET RID OF OUR SECOND CAR.
THAT'S A GREAT WAY TO GET AROUND TOWN IF, IF ONLY, UH, WE DIDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT GETTING RUN OVER.
SO, UM, THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
REALLY GLAD YOU'RE ALL DOING IT.
JUST KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK AND LET'S TRY TO MAKE IT SO WE DON'T HAVE TO BE IN OUR CARS ALL THE TIME.
I JUST WANNA SAY, UH, VERY BRIEFLY, UM, ECHOING WHAT DAVE JUST SAID.
AGAIN, READING THROUGH THE THE GREENHOUSE GAS REDUCTION BLUEPRINT, IT TALKS ABOUT, UH, IF WE ARE TO COME CLOSE TO MEETING OUR 2030 CARBON NEUTRALITY GOAL AS A CITY, WE WILL NEED TO GET, UH, MODE SHIFT ON THE ORDER OF 50, 60, 70%, GETTING PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR SINGLE OCCUPANT VEHICLES, UH, ONTO PUBLIC TRANSIT.
AND, UM, ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION SEEMS TO ME, IN ORDER FOR THAT TO HAPPEN, WE NEED TO HAVE A COMPLETE AND INTEGRATED NETWORK OF, FOR OTHER FORMS OF MOBILITY.
AND WHAT I'M SEEING HERE LOOKS TO ME LIKE A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, BUT THERE ARE LOTS AND LOTS OF GAPS, AND A MOBILITY NETWORK IS ONLY AS AS FUNCTIONAL AS ITS WEAKEST LINK.
AND, UM, TO, TO, IN MY VIEWING, WE NEED TO TIGHTEN UP THE, THE, THE GAPS AND MAKE IT A COMPLETE NETWORK.
I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENT CARDS THAT CLOSE THIS PUBLIC COMMENT
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ON THIS ITEM AND BRINGS IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE FOR DISCUSSION.AND I WILL START WITH MARSHA, PLEASE.
LOOKING AT, UM, I GUESS IT'S NOW TIME FOR THIS KIND OF THING.
UM, LOOKING AT THE TRAIL NETWORK MAP, WHICH IS MAP ON THE SECOND PAGE, UM, I WAS JUST OUT ON GOSSAGE WALKING WITH A FRIEND AND BEFORE I LOOKED AT THIS MAP, AND I LOOKED AT THE MAP JUST TO KIND OF TRACK WHERE, WHERE MY FRIEND AND I HAD WALKED, AND I WAS QUITE SURPRISED TO SEE, UM, THE FACT THAT GOSSAGE IS, IS LISTED AS A TRAIL AND GOSSAGE IS ANYTHING BUT A TRAIL.
IT'S, UM, A CLASS TWO, THE WAY I LOOK AT IT, BUT IT CERTAINLY ISN'T A TRAIL.
UM, PRIVATE OWNERSHIP ON BOTH SIDES OF THAT ROADWAY MIGHT MAKE IT VERY DIFFICULT TO BUY THE, BUY THE, UH, LAND THAT YOU NEED IN ORDER TO BUILD A TRAIL.
SO I WAS, THAT WAS ONE THING I NOTED.
UM, LOOKING ON MAP NUMBER THREE, SORRY, MAYBE, UH, I CAN JUST RESPOND OR SURE.
ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS INDIVIDUALLY.
SO, UH, THAT THIS CONNECTION YOU SEE HERE, IT WAS ENVISIONED ACTUALLY IN THE, THE 2008 BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN MASTER PLAN AS PART OF THE, THE RIM TRAIL SYSTEM.
AND THAT'S, UH, SO THAT, THAT'S NOT AN EXISTING TRAIL.
IT WAS A, IT'S A, IT'S A VISION.
UM, AND, AND IT WILL OBVIOUSLY HAPPEN IN A, A PIECEMEAL FASHION, I THINK OVER TIME, IF AT ALL.
UH, OR MAYBE SOME, SOME SECTIONS DO COME TO EXIST.
BUT, UM, YEAH, SO THAT JUST KIND OF SKIRTS THE WHOLE, UH, WESTERN BOUNDARY OF THE CITY.
THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THAT, THAT WE CARRIED OVER ALL OF THE PROJECTS FROM THE 2008 PLAN.
SO, NO, I, I RECOGNIZE THAT IT'S JUST THE WAY, WHAT YOU'RE ASKING US TO DO TONIGHT IS YES.
WHAT DO WE, WHAT DO WE DO, WHAT DO WE SAY? UM, LIKE, UH, MR. FELIX, I ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT THE, UM, SINCE THIS IS A TRAIL NETWORK, WE NEED TO UPDATE THE AREA THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT, THE AREA BETWEEN, UM, BETWEEN WHAT NORTH MCDOWELL AND CORONA AND THE NEW SUBDIVISION THAT'S GOING IN ALONG WITH THE SMART TRAIN.
THAT WHOLE AREA NEEDS TO BE UPDATED.
I DON'T THINK WE HAD THAT LISTED AS A TRAIL ON IN ANY FASHION.
AND THEN LOOKING AT, UH, LET'S SEE, ON THE SIDEWALK GAPS AND ENVISION TRAIL NETWORK, LET'S SEE.
OH, WE, WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THAT ONE.
UM, THERE ARE A FEW AREAS IN HERE THAT SUGGEST THERE IS NO SIDEWALK, AND I BEG TO DIFFER THAT THERE IS A SEMBLANCE OF SIDEWALK.
UM, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING I COULD LIST OUT FOR YOU AND SEND IT TO YOU RATHER THAN GOING THROUGH IT AND TAKING THE TIME IN THE COMMITTEE.
AND THE SAME THING WOULD GO FOR SIDEWALKS.
THAT, OR, OR FOR THE MAP READING THAT, THAT SAYS, UM, THERE'S NO SIDEWALK AT ALL ON EITHER SIDE WHEN THERE IS, SO THAT I CAN INCLUDE AS WELL.
UH, LET'S SEE, WHAT ELSE? AND AGAIN, EVERYTHING ELSE ON THAT MAP IS BASICALLY ABOUT EXISTING SIDEWALKS THAT I EITHER THINK ARE THERE OR I THINK ARE NOT THERE.
SO THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE AT THIS MOMENT.
MARSHA FRANKLIN? YEAH, JUST ONE, UM, SORT OF GENERAL COMMENT ON, UM, ALONG ELI BOULEVARD.
SO, AND, AND I'VE, YOU KNOW, I'VE MADE THIS COMMENT TOO ON, ON LAKEVILLE, UM, LAKEVILLE JUST NORTH OF CAWFIELD.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A, BETWEEN, BETWEEN CAWFIELD AND, UM, THE, THE TRAIN STATION, THERE'S A COUPLE OF CROSSINGS ON THAT ROAD ON LAKEVILLE THAT ARE JUST, UH, UH, THERE'S NO LIGHT, IT'S JUST WHITE LINES PAINTED ON THE GROUND.
CARS ARE DRIVING 45 MILES AN HOUR, AND IF ANYONE STEPS IN THE STREET, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A SERIOUS ISSUE.
E MUCH ALONG ELI IS THE SAME WAY.
UM, THERE'S A FAIR AMOUNT OF CROSSINGS ALL ALONG, ALL UP AND DOWN ELI, THAT REALLY, THERE'S NO LIGHTS OR SIGNALS OR ANYTHING ALONG THAT LINE.
SO AS WE, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE TO, YOU KNOW, JUST SORT OF THINK ABOUT BUILDING THIS OUT,
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UM, IF THE COMMENTS HAVEN'T SORT OF DRAWN YOUR ATTENTION TO THAT, I, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT COMMENT AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE.UH, FIRST COMMENT IS ACTUALLY KIND OF A, A CARDIOGRAPHIC COMMENT ABOUT THE FIRST MAP.
UM, I THINK THE, THE GREEN PROTECT OR THE GREEN, UM, BIKEWAYS, UH, SORRY, IT'S GOING SLOW.
WHAT ARE THEY? THE ON STREET BIKE LANES? I THINK PART OF WHAT'S CHALLENGING IN LOOKING AT THE MAP IS ALL OF THE GREEN PARKS ALSO, YOU DON'T REALLY GET TO SEE THE GREEN BIKEWAYS POP OUT AS MUCH.
SO YOU MIGHT WANNA JUST LOSE OR SEVERELY TRANSPARENT SIZE THE PARKS OR DO SOMETHING.
UM, AND I THINK, YEAH, WHAT COMES TO MIND FOR THIS MAP IS TRYING TO GET, UM, THE ENVISIONED BICYCLE NETWORK IS TRYING TO GET CLARITY, I THINK IN PART OF THE DESCRIPTION, WHICH WAS POINTED OUT, YOU KNOW, WITH OR WITHOUT BEAR BARRIERS OR BUFFERS LENDS JUST THAT, UM, UNCERTAINTY AROUND WHAT IS KIND OF THAT COMPLETE PROTECTED BIKE NETWORK THAT'S LIKE, THAT'S THE MAP THAT I ESSENTIALLY WANNA SEE.
UM, AND I KNOW IT'S A COMBINATION OF SOME OF THE GREEN AND SOME OF THE BLUE, BUT IT, I JUST, MY, MY EYE CAN'T CATCH IT.
BUT IT CAN FOCUS IN ON AREAS AND START TO SEE WHERE SOME OF THOSE GAPS ARE.
UM, AND I THINK THAT'S MAYBE JUST SOMETHING, A MAPPING EXERCISE OR AN UPDATE OR SOMETHING TO BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY SHOW WHERE THAT IS.
AND I THINK WHAT CAME TO MIND WAS FROM OUR LAST FEEDBACK MEETING AROUND THE IMPROVEMENTS ALONG MARIA DRIVE, UM, AND MACKENZIE AS WELL TOO, I THINK AS THEY CONNECT, UM, AND JUST THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, GOING BY SAFEWAY AND GOING ACROSS 1 0 1, HOW THERE'S THAT ROUTE THERE THAT HAS YEAH, KIND OF A MIX OF GREENWAY AND BIKE LANE.
AND I THINK WHAT I, AND YEAH, GOING DOWN D STREET FURTHER AND I THINK WHAT I WANNA BE ABLE TO SEE IN A MAP IS JUST KNOW WHERE IS THAT COMPLETE NETWORK THAT IS PROTECTED, UM, THAT YOU CAN HAVE, YEAH, A THREE-YEAR-OLD RIDE THEIR BIKE ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
UM, AND IT'S JUST, YEAH, STILL HARD TO, TO REALLY VISUALIZE THAT.
BUT I THINK THAT EXAMPLE THAT I JUST GAVE OF MARIA AND MACKENZIE AND D STREET FURTHER DOWN, I THINK THAT'S JUST THE IDEA OF BEING ABLE TO DO SOMETHING VISUALLY WITH THIS MAP AND GETTING DEFINITION ALSO ON WHAT'S PROTECTED OR NOT TO BE ABLE TO SAY, OKAY, WHERE ARE THE GAPS TO MAKE THAT, YOU KNOW, ONE SINGLE COLOR, JUST SHOWING WHERE THAT COMPLETE NETWORK WOULD BE.
THAT'S, I THINK WHAT WE REALLY HAVE TO WORK TOWARDS OF JUST HAVING A CLEAR VISION OF WHERE THAT WILL BE AND THEN, YOU KNOW, ADDRESSING THOSE PINCH POINTS.
I AGREE AT THE NEED FURTHER STUDY.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE EVEN ALONG PETALUMA BOULEVARD, UM, AND ROUND DOWNTOWN THAT FEELS LIKE, YOU KNOW, SEEING THOSE AS GREENWAYS AND NOTHING FULLY PROTECTED IS GETS AWAY FROM THIS IDEA OF BEING ABLE TO HAVE, UM, YEAH, PEOPLE RIDE TO THESE MAJOR ATTRACTIONS FROM SMART OR FROM THEIR HOMES, THEIR BUSINESSES.
SO THAT'S, I THINK JUST THE BIG HIGH LEVEL COMMENT.
UM, THERE ARE, I JUST HAVE A FEW ONE TRAIL COMMENT LOOKING AT, UM, CASA GRANDE ROAD AND WHAT'S NOT ON HERE IS, BUT I THINK MIGHT BE A POTENTIAL ATTRACTION IS, UM, THE, UH, VALLEJO'S ADOBE OVER ON ADOBE ROAD.
SO THINKING IS THERE, I KNOW, I THINK THAT MIGHT GO OUT OF PETALUMA'S JURISDICTION TOO.
UM, BUT I, I LOVE THE IDEA TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOMEONE COME TO PETALUMA ON THE SMART STATION, BE ABLE TO BIKE AROUND ON A COMPLETE PROTECTED BIKE NETWORK, SEE ALL THE ATTRACTIONS AND NEVER HAVE TO CLOG THE STREETS, IS JUST LIKE THAT'S SO WITHIN OUR REACH, I THINK.
UM, AND SO YEAH, ADOBE'S VALLEJO IS REALLY COOL.
UM, SO THROW THAT ON THE LIST.
IN TERMS OF INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS, I FEEL LIKE THERE'S A CRITERIA MAYBE THAT WE CAN JUST LOOK ACROSS THE MAP AND MAKE SOME
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ADDITIONS.UM, ONE IS AROUND THE SMART STATION, SO I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CORONA, BUT I THINK, UH, FOR THE DOWNTOWN SMART STATION D STREET AND THEN UH, WASHINGTON, REESE, WASHINGTON, I THINK BOTH NEEDS, UM, A LOT OF HELP IN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO FACILITATE THE ARRIVAL, UM, AND DISTRIBUTION OF BIKES.
JUST KIND OF WHEN THE TRAIN COMES, I'M PART OF THAT.
SO IT'S JUST KIND OF A LOT OF FLOW AND FEELING, FIGURING OUT HOW TO HANDLE THAT BIKE FLOW WITH, WITH TRAFFIC.
AND I THINK THERE'S SOME CURRENT THINGS IN LONG TERM, YOU KNOW, SHORT-TERM SOLUTIONS AND SOME LONGER TERM SOLUTIONS THAT WE CAN THINK ABOUT FOR THAT.
UM, AND THEN THE OTHER CRITERIA WAS JUST ALL THE ON OFF RAMPS IN THOSE INTERSECTIONS.
I NOTICED ONE WAS MISSING ON LAKEVILLE HIGHWAY ON THE EAST SIDE, THAT ONE'S JUST LIKE, THERE'S NOTHING THERE.
UM, AND YEAH, I THINK THERE'S, THAT SHOULD PROBABLY CONCLUDE MY COMMENTS.
I FEEL LIKE DOING THAT MAPPING EXERCISE THOUGH FEELS LIKE CAN ADDRESS A LOT OF THE GAPS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OF JUST KNOWING WHERE WOULD IT MAKE SENSE TO CONVERT ONE OF THESE GREEN WAYS TO SOMETHING THAT'S IDENTIFIED AS SOMETHING THAT'S MORE PROTECTED.
UM, I DON'T HAVE A LOT TO ADD HERE, BUT I AM, I'M LOOKING AT THE, THE BUS, THE, UM, LIKE TRANSFER STATION BY THE SAFEWAY AND I JUST, I THINK THAT WE COULD DO A BETTER JOB THERE, LIKE WE HAVE ON STREET BIKE LANES.
I'M ALSO THINKING ABOUT THE PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE.
LIKE I DO THINK WE GIVE A LOT OF THOUGHT TO THE MOVEMENTS OF BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN ON THE SMART TRAIN COMING AND GOING, BUT I'M, I'M HOPING THAT WE'LL HAVE MORE BETTER BUS USE AND MORE BUS USE.
SO OUR MICRO MOBILITY, IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE HAD THAT, UM, AREA IMPROVED.
AND I'M LOOKING IN THAT AREA, LIKE, I'M NOT SURE IF THIS TRAIL HAS A NAME, BUT IT'S GOING FROM WASHINGTON STREET UP TO GARFIELD, LIKE, UM, GREENBRIAR AND THE ADDISON RANCH APARTMENTS, AND THEN IT DROPS PEOPLE RIGHT ONTO WASHINGTON.
AND IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE BETTER IF IT, I MEAN, IF THAT'S STILL THERE, I THINK THAT'S FINE, BUT TO, UM, KIND OF DIVERT TRAFFIC OR HELP PEOPLE GO ON MARIA TO TOWARDS LUCCHESE AND GET ON THE TRAILS OR GO TO MACKENZIE AND TAKE THE OVERPASS, THE WALKING BRIDGE, UM, THERE WOULD BE HELPFUL RATHER THAN JUST HAVING THEM LAND ON WASHINGTON STREET.
SO I, I GUESS THAT WOULD BE A BIT OF A WAY FINDING.
UM, AND THOSE ARE MY, NO, THOSE ARE ALL MY COMMENTS.
UM, I'M NOT SURE IF THIS ONE IS TECHNICALLY PRIVATE PROPERTY, SO MIGHT NEED TO, UNLESS MAYBE YOU KNOW, UH, BJORN, BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT ALONG THE LYNCH CREEK TRAIL, THERE IS A PATH THAT GOES BEHIND SOME TOWN HOMES.
THIS IS, UM, NORTH OF MADISON.
SO, UM, ON THE, ON THE EAST SIDE.
OH YEAH, MADISON'S OVER THERE TOO.
SO BETWEEN STONE MOUNTAIN AND MARIA, THAT SECTION OF THE LYNCH CREEK TRAIL RIGHT THERE.
SO ON THE OTHER SIDE, THE SOUTH SIDE, THERE IS A TRAIL THAT PARALLELS IT.
I USED TO WALK IT A LOT AND IT GOES BEHIND A COMPLEX.
THERE'S NO SIGNAGE THAT SAYS IT'S PRIVATE, BUT MIGHT WANT TO VERIFY THAT IF, BEFORE WE PUT SOMETHING ON.
BUT IT IS A NICE LITTLE PAVED PATH.
THERE'S A LOT OF BLACKBERRIES BACK THERE.
IS IT SIDEWALK WIDTH OR IS IT LIKE A, IS IT LIKE A MULTI EAST TRAIL? YEAH, IT'S, IT'S SIDEWALK WIDTH.
IT'S PROBABLY NOT SHOW, EVEN IF IT IS PUBLIC, IT WOULDN'T SHOW HERE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT MARKING OUT EVERY SIDEWALK.
WE WERE TRYING TO MARK, REALLY ALL YOU'RE SEEING HERE ARE, UH,
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TRAILS THAT ARE ACCESSIBLE TO PEOPLE WALKING AND BIKING OR THAT ARE KIND OF DESIGNATED FOR WALKING AND BIKING.UM, SO IF YOU FEEL THAT IT'S, IT'S GOT SOME, I FEEL LIKE IT'S UTILITY AS A MULTI-USE, MULTI-USE, UH, FACILITY, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WOULD BE BIKING ON IT.
IT'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL WE'LL LOOK AT IT AND SEE IF IT'S, YEAH.
UM, I WON'T BE OFFENDED IF YOU DON'T EDIT.
UM, AND THEN I THINK ON THE, THE SIDEWALK GAP, THE THIRD ONE, WE CAN REMOVE MOST OF WHAT'S HIGHLIGHTED FOR NORTH MCDOWELL SINCE THOSE GAPS ARE CLOSED NOW.
AND MY LAST PUBLIC QUESTION IS, I KNOW WE HAD A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS.
WILL THE COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS BE INCORPORATED INTO WHAT YOU'RE DOING NOW? YES.
THE COMMENT WE HAD FROM ROBIN.
YEAH, WE'VE GOT A BIG FOLDER OF ALL OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED.
SO, UM, AND IT'S HELPFUL ACTUALLY TO, UH, HAVE ALL OF THIS ARCHIVED FOR GRANT APPLICATIONS.
SO, UH, YEAH, I, WE EVEN KIND OF LOOKED AT, UM, WITH THE SOCIAL PINPOINT AT LEAST, IT WAS PRETTY EASY TO IDENTIFY WHICH CORRIDORS RECEIVED THE MOST COMMENTS AND, UM, UH, MY RECOLLECTION WAS THAT D STREET WAS ONE OF, IF NOT OUR TOP, UH, SOURCE OF COMMENTS ON THE SOCIAL PINPOINT MAP FOR BIKE, BIKE, PET IMPROVEMENTS, UM, MOSTLY BETWEEN DOWNTOWN AND, AND LAKEVILLE AND THE LAKEVILLE INTERSECTION RECEIVED A LOT OF COMMENTS ON ITS OWN.
SORRY FOR NOT SENDING MY COMMENTS IN SOONER.
UM, SO ON WESTERN AVENUE, UM, I KNOW THERE'S SOME CROSSING ISSUES THERE AT FAIR STREET THAT'S NOT LISTED.
UM, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, UM, BODEGA AVENUE CROSSINGS, UH, BODEGA AND UPHAM AND OR PARK AND BA, UH, BAKER.
BOTH THOSE ARE, UM, PRETTY TREACHEROUS.
UM, UH, ECHO THE COMMENT ABOUT CORONA ROAD, UM, THEN I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE CAPTURE THIS, UM, BUT I JUST WANT TO DOUBLE DOWN ON THE UNDERGROUNDING, THE UTILITIES ON D STREET, UM, BETWEEN OYSTER COVE AND LAKEVILLE, THERE'S LIKE THREE POLES THERE.
AND JUST MAKING SURE THAT THAT GETS, UM, IN EVERY PLAN THAT WE POSSIBLY HAVE.
UM, UH, PGA CROSSINGS AGREE WITH THE PUBLIC COMMENT ABOUT I STREET BEING, UM, PROBABLY LABELED WRONG.
UM, THERE IS A GAP ON WEST STREET THAT I THINK IS WORTH CALLING OUT, UM, WHERE IT DOESN'T GO DOWN TO PETALUMA BOULEVARD.
UM, I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY FOR PEOPLE ON WEST STREET TO, IT'S LIKE KIND OF A, A, A HILL TO GO FROM WEST STREET TOWARD DOWNTOWN.
SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO GO DOWN TO PLUMA BOULEVARD OR GO DOWN TO KELLER OR SOMETHING.
UM, AND YOU'RE NOT GONNA GO TO MAGNOLIA IF YOU'RE GONNA GO TO THE FAIRGROUNDS, FOR EXAMPLE.
UM, AND SO I THINK WE NEED TO CONTINUE THAT WEST STREET ONE DOWN TO PLUMA BOULEVARD.
UM, YEAH, SO WE ACTUALLY LOOKED AT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD CLOSELY BECAUSE OF THE HILLS AND THE OPPORTUNITIES CREATED BY THE GRID.
SO I'M, I'M EXCITED THAT YOU BROUGHT IT UP 'CAUSE THIS IS A CHANCE TO KIND OF TALK THROUGH IT A LITTLE BIT.
SO WE, UH, WE ADDED THE, UM, SO WE GOT THE FIFTH STREET NEIGHBORHOOD, GREENWAY COMES UP HERE.
YOU NEED SOME INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS AT WASHINGTON TO GET PEOPLE ACROSS, UM, ONTO KELLER.
KELLER IS ONE OF THE MORE, IS A, IS A PRETTY GRADUAL UPHILL UP TO PROSPECT.
UM, AND THEN FROM THAT POINT, SO IF YOU'RE ENVISIONING A CONNECTION THAT GETS AROUND THIS REALLY CONGESTED AREA OF DOWNTOWN ON, UH, WASHINGTON AND PETALUMA BOULEVARD NORTH, YOU WOULD USE, UM, KELLER TURN RIGHT ON PROSPECT, TURN LEFT ON KENTUCKY, WHICH IS AGAIN, ONE OF THE MORE GRADUAL HILLS.
AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THE NEW SIGNAL AT OAK AND THE NEW, UM, TRAIL DOWN AT, UH, AT THE NORTH RIVER APARTMENTS.
SO THAT'S ONE WAY TO KIND OF CONNECT THROUGH THAT AREA.
UM, AND THEN WE ARE ENVISIONING THAT IF PEOPLE ARE BIKING ANYWHERE, SORT OF UP TO THE CHERRY VALLEY AR AREA, THEY WOULD USE KELLER STREET,
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UM, SLIGHTLY LOWER LOWER TRAFFIC THAN KEOKUK, A LITTLE MORE, UM, GRADUAL LESS HILLY, BASICALLY TRYING TO NOT, NOT FORCE PEOPLE TO BIKE, UM, ON THESE STEEP HILLS UP TOWARDS OAK HILL.UM, BUT YEAH, POINT WELL TAKEN THAT WE, WE DON'T HAVE A CONNECTION, UM, ON THIS SECTION OF WEST THAT'S A REALLY STEEP, REALLY, REALLY STEEP HILL THOUGH.
SO I'M, I'M A LITTLE HESITANT TO, LIKE, WE LEFT OUT, YOU KNOW, PROSPECT FOR EXAMPLE.
WE'RE TRYING TO, TRYING TO RUN PEOPLE THROUGH THIS PROSPECT.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN
AND, AND THEN USE PROSPECT AS THE PRIMARY KIND OF EAST WEST, EXCEPT FOR THAT LAST BLOCK DOWN TO THE BOULEVARD.
THAT WAS KIND OF THE, THE, THE THINKING BEHIND THIS.
I THINK WE COULD, UH, KENTUCKY IS PRETTY GRADUAL.
WE COULD, WE COULD FILTER PEOPLE DOWN TO THIS, DO THE SAME THING HERE AND SEND PEOPLE DOWN.
UM, I, YEAH, I JUST DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT HILL, LIKE REALLY, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S STEEP ALL THE WAY UP TO KELLER, BUT YEAH.
I GUESS MY, MY BIGGER POINT IS LIKE I, I SAID ALREADY THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT MORE PEOPLE GOING TO THE FAIRGROUNDS AND I JUST AM THINKING, LIKE WHEN I LOOK AT THESE MAPS, I THINK TO MYSELF, LIKE, IF I'M RIDING TO GO PLAY PICKLEBALL AT THE FAIRGROUNDS, LIKE WHAT ROUTE AM I GONNA TAKE FROM DIFFERENT PLATES PLACES, RIGHT? UM, SO I JUST THINK THERE'S, UH, A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS TO THINK ABOUT WITH THAT.
UM, GETTING PEOPLE TO THE CENTER OF THE CITY SAFELY.
'CAUSE IT REALLY HASN'T BEEN A DESTINATION TO THIS POINT.
LIKE, THE ONLY REASON YOU'D GO THERE IS TO GO TO TARGET AND YOU'RE PROBABLY DRIVING RIGHT.
BUT THERE'S GONNA BE NEW REASONS TO, UM, YOU KNOW, WALK AND RIDE YOUR BIKE THERE.
UM, THE, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAPTURED THE LAKE FIELD OF PAY RAN, UH, ON D STREET, UM, LIKE MAKING IT A ONE WAY STREET AND SORT OF IMPLEMENTING THAT VISION, BUT I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT, UH, PUT IN THERE.
UM, SORRY, THAT WAS, UH, THE, THE GAP BETWEEN, UM, ON LAKEVILLE, IT'S, IT'S NOT REALLY A GAP THAT'S LISTED IN HERE, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S, I THINK IT COULD BE A TRAIL.
I THINK IT COULD BE A ONE-WAY.
UM, I THINK D STREET FROM, UH, LAKEVILLE TO PAY RAN COULD BE ONE WAY OPPOSED, OH, I SEE THIS, THIS SECTION.
I THINK TO IT COULD BE, UH, AND IT COULD BECOME A BETTER PATH AND JUST, UM, STRONGER CONNECTION THERE.
AND THAT WAS A FUN FACT ABOUT THAT, THAT WAS ACTUALLY ENVISIONED AS PETALUMA'S FIRST NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, BIKE BOULEVARD.
UM, NOW WE'RE CALLING 'EM NEIGHBORHOOD GREEN WASTE.
SO THAT, THAT WAS, UH, PROBABLY A PROJECT THAT WAS AHEAD OF ITS TIME WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED.
AND WITH THE FAIRGROUNDS, YEAH, IT'S A, IT'S NOW BEING A DESTINATION.
I THINK IT MIGHT BE WORTH DUSTING OFF.
UM, AND THEN JUST IN GENERAL, I THINK WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT LIKE, UH, SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, OUR PUBLIC COMMENTERS TOUCHED ON IT, BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT LIKE, UH, IN SONOMA MOUNTAIN, RIGHT, FOR EXAMPLE, THESE WIDE ROADS THAT ARE TWO LANES AND TRYING TO GET TO CARBON NEUTRALITY, WE HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES LIKE, ARE WE AT PEAK CAR RIGHT NOW? AND IF NOT, WHEN ARE WE RIGHT? LIKE, PEOPLE ARE GONNA MOVE HERE, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE CARS, BUT ALSO PEOPLE ARE GETTING E-BIKES AND DITCHING CARS.
UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY SORT OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, POLICY ASSUMPTION THAT YOU CAN MAKE THAT LIKE, WE'RE GOING TO BE TRANSITIONING ALL OF OUR TWO WAY STREETS TO ONE WAY, OR I MEAN, TWO LANE ROADS TO ONE WAY OR ONE LANE.
UM, YOU KNOW, WASHINGTON OBVIOUSLY THAT'S LIKE, YOU'RE PUTTING A DAGGER IN THE HEART OF CAR CULTURE, YOU KNOW, LIKE IF WE REALLY WANT TO DO SOMETHING LIKE, LIKE MORE THAN A CONNECTED NETWORK OF BIKE LANES, LIKE MAKING WASHINGTON A TOLL ROAD WITH ONE LANE IN EACH DIRECTION IS WHAT'S GONNA, LIKE, GET PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR CAR IN THE CITY
WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO SEE THE BUILD OUT OF PETALUMA BOULEVARD OUT TOWARDS THE, THE OLD LUCKY'S AND THE, UM, THE OLD BOAT STORE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THOSE ARE PROBABLY GONNA BECOME, YOU KNOW, LIKE DENSE HOUSING, I WOULD THINK.
UM, AND SO, UM, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT LIKE COMING UP WITH A PRETTY GRAND VISION FOR PETALUMA BOULEVARD, UM, YOU KNOW, WASHINGTON, IF IT GETS REDEVELOPED, IF THERE'S PIECES OF THAT, LIKE, UM, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE, UM, THAT OUR PLAN REALLY THINK ABOUT WHAT TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT'S GONNA BE GOING IN THERE.
AND, AND I'M NOT SEE, LIKE, WHEN I JUST LOOK AT THE MAP, I DON'T SEE LIKE THE FUTURE LAND USE THAT WE'RE STRIVING FOR.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SORT OF IS LIKE MISSING FROM THIS, THIS WHOLE DISCUSSION REALLY.
UM, AND I WOULD SAY TOO, I THINK THAT THAT CONVERSATION WILL REALLY BE DRIVEN IN THE, IN THE GENERAL PLAN AND, UH, AND ESPECIALLY, YEAH, THE, THE KIND OF THE LAND USE ELEMENT OF THE GENERAL PLAN, BUT ALSO THE MOBILITY ELEMENT, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY LOOKING AT TRANSPORTATION AS A WHOLE, NOT JUST BIKE
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PAD.BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE SEEN, I'VE SEEN TABLES, UH, FOR THE, FOR THE GENERAL PLAN THAT CLEARLY OUTLINE WHICH CORRIDOR, THE CORRIDORS WHERE LANE REDUCTIONS ARE, UM, UH, SEEM FEASIBLE JUST BASED ON TRAFFIC VOLUME.
UM, WHERE IT WOULD REALLY, YOU COULD, YOU COULD IMPLEMENT A LANE REDUCTION AND, AND NOT SEE ANY ADVERSE, UM, CONGESTION IMPACTS.
AND, UM, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF THE, IT'S, IT'S THE CASA GRANDE, THE CASA GRANDE IS ELI SNOW MOUNTAIN PARKWAY.
IT'S KIND OF YOUR GEN RAINIER, IT'S THE, YOU KNOW, THOSE CALL FIELD.
THE BIGGER, UM, ROADS MORE ON THE EAST SIDE WHERE THE TRAFFIC VOLUMES ARE JUST MUCH LOWER THAN AND, AND DON'T WARRANT THAT.
SO THAT, I THINK THAT WILL BE PART MORE PART OF THE, THE GENERAL PLAN DISCUSSION.
UM, YEAH, SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT GOES, GOES BEYOND OUR, OUR A TP, BUT THAT WE CAN CERTAINLY WITH THIS PLAN, YOU KNOW, REACT TO AND, AND TRY TO, UM, UH, YEAH, UPDATE THIS AS NEEDED IN RESPONSE TO SOME OF THOSE, THOSE BIGGER CONVERSATIONS.
AND THEN FINAL, UH, FINAL POINTS, UM, MADISON AND PAY RAN, PAY RAN AND LYNCH CREEK TRAIL.
THERE'S SOME THOSE, I THINK WE IDENTIFIED THE LYNCH CREEK TRAIL INTERSECTION THERE WITH, WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, ON PAY.
UM, AND THEN, UM, I JUST, I HEAR A LOT WITH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS MY DISTRICT, SO I'VE BEEN TALKING TO PEOPLE AND THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT MADISON RIGHT NOW.
UM, MADISON MCKINLEY, ALL THE TRAFFIC ISSUES AROUND THERE.
SO I'M JUST NOT SEEING THE, LIKE, THE NUMBER OF, UH, INTERSECTION ISSUES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT I'D WANT TO SEE AROUND, UM, AROUND THAT SCHOOL.
I'LL HAVE SOMETHING TO SHARE ON THAT SHORTLY IN MY NEXT ITEM.
PAMELA, UM, GOT A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.
UM, I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE CONNECTIONS TO LIKE THE RING RIM TRAIL.
SO THE ONE THAT'S BEING SHOWN ON NORMAN AND IN THE SUNNY SLOPE AREA.
I, I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT WE EXPECT, UH, IN TERMS OF CONNECTIONS EITHER ON STREET OR THROUGH OTHER PROPERTIES THAT HAVE YET TO BEEN, BE DEVELOPED.
SO, I MEAN, WE'RE SHOWING IT THERE, BUT UM, WE'RE NOT SHOWING HOW FOLKS CAN ACCESS IT, UH, MID SEGMENT.
SO I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'VE, WE'VE THOUGHT ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THERE ARE STREETS THAT ARE JUST GONNA GET US THERE OR WHETHER WE NEED SOME MORE SPURS THAT SHOULD BE SHOWN TO MAKE IT MORE ACCESSIBLE.
I MADE SOME COMMENTS EARLIER ABOUT, UM, LIKE THE WALLENBERG WAY AND, UH, OAK KNOLL COURT SEEMED TO ME THAT AT SOME POINT IN TIME IN PAST BIKE COMMITTEE MEETINGS, WE EVEN CONDITIONED SOME OF THOSE, UM, SUBDIVISIONS TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO TRAIL AT THE TOP.
UM, AND, UH, MAYBE THAT SOMETHING HAPPENED AFTER BIKE COMMITTEE LOOKED AT IT, BUT, UH, BUT YOU KNOW, I, I THINK TO, TO SHOW A, A, A RIM TRAIL WITHOUT SHOWING HOW PEOPLE ARE GONNA GET TO IT, UM, WHETHER IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN AT, UH, THAT, UH, CORNER OF GLIA AND I OR, UH, SOME OF THOSE PLACES, I THINK, I THINK THAT HELPS.
IF SOMEONE LOOKS AT THE MAP, THEY CAN SAY, OH YEAH, WE ENVISION THAT, THAT FOLKS WOULD BE ABLE TO NOT JUST WALK UP I STREET TO GET ON IT, BUT COULD GO THROUGH, UH, A DIFFERENT AREA.
SO, UM, SEEMS TO ME LIKE WE OUGHT TO HAVE SOME TRAILS SUGGESTIONS ABOUT HOW, UH, PEOPLE WOULD GET DOWN TO THE RIVER TRAIL THROUGH, FOR EXAMPLE, SOME OF THE NEW SUBDIVISIONS THAT WE RECENTLY SAW.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IN THE CORE WHERE, UH, JUST A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT NEW DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA.
SO I, I DON'T SEE CONNECTIONS FROM LIKE THE SMART TRAIL DOWN THROUGH YEAH, EXACTLY RIGHT IN THERE.
CAN WE REPRESENT SOMETHING IN THAT AREA TO SUGGEST THAT WE'RE ALSO ANTICIPATING THAT THERE WOULD BE THROUGH, UH, THROUGH TRAIL, THROUGH, UM, EITHER MULTI-USE OR WHATEVER WE CAN COME UP WITH.
UM, I, I'D, I'D LIKE THAT TO BE KIND OF SUGGESTIVE.
UM, I ALSO KIND OF FEEL LIKE WE'RE NOT REALLY, UM, EMPHASIZING WHAT WE WANNA ACHIEVE AS BOLDLY AS WE SHOULD.
SIMILAR TO WHAT SOME OF THE OTHER, UH, COMMITTEE MEMBERS HAVE TALKED ABOUT.
I KIND OF FEEL LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE BEING A LITTLE FUZZY BETWEEN, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, WHERE, WHERE DO WE REALLY WANT THE PROTECT PROTECTED BIKE WAYS TO BE, TO GET PEOPLE TO MOVE AROUND.
AND IF WE'RE SHOWING SOME AS, AS ORANGE AND SOME AS GREEN, UM, IT ALMOST, IT ALMOST FEELS TO ME LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE NOT BEING CLEAR ENOUGH
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ABOUT WHAT WE EXPECT, LIKE, WHICH IS GONNA GET THE EMPHASIS, WHERE'S THE MONEY GONNA GO? WHERE, WHICH ROADS ARE REALLY GONNA BE NARROWED? AND THIS LAST BIT OF THE CONVERSATION ABOUT LAND USE, I, I THINK THAT THAT'S IT.IT SEEMS LIKE, OKAY, WHAT, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN ALONG PETALUMA BOULEVARD? WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN ON SOME OF OUR, YOU KNOW, MORE DENSE CORRIDORS? WE'RE WHERE WE ARE EXPECTING MORE HOUSING.
IT, IT SEEMS LIKE THIS NEEDS TO TAKE A, A, IN MY MIND, A A BOLDER STANCE AS TO WHAT WE WANT TO ACHIEVE.
UM, AND I FEEL IT'S A LITTLE WISHY-WASHY WITH THE WAY WE'RE REPRESENTING IT.
AND I KNOW THESE ARE HARD CHOICES, UM, BUT, UH, IF, IF THIS GETS ADOPTED LIKE THIS, IT JUST, IT FEELS KIND OF, UM, IT, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT BOLD ENOUGH TO GET THOSE CLIMATE ACTION GOALS REPRE, UH, ACHIEVED IN THAT PERIOD OF TIME.
AND WE KNOW HOW LONG IT TOOK US TO GO FROM THE LAST BIKE PAD PLAN TO THIS.
SO I, I THINK THIS IS THE, THE OPPORTUNITY.
UM, YEAH, THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.
YEAH, I THINK I'VE, I'VE HEARD THAT, UM, PRETTY LOUD AND CLEAR FROM, FROM THE COMMITTEE AND THE PUBLIC THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THE ACTUAL BIKEWAY TYPES CALLED OUT.
SO, UM, WE WILL DO OUR BEST TO, TO CAPTURE THOSE, UH, BASED ON, ON WHAT WE KNOW OF EACH OF THESE CORRIDORS BASED ON, YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC, VOLUME, SPEED, ET CETERA.
UH, CALL OUT WHATEVER WOULD BE THE RECOMMENDED NATO FACILITY.
AND, UM, YEAH, THAT WAS, IT'S
SO WE'LL THAT NEXT, NEXT MAP REVISION, WE'LL HAVE THE BIKEWAY CLASSES CALLED OUT.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER FINAL COMMENTS? YES.
UM, YEAH, TWO ACTUALLY COMMENT IN A QUESTION.
UH, THE COMMENT WAS ABOUT WEST STREET IN THE HILLS, AND IT WAS KIND OF PUTTING THE FUTURE GOGGLES ON AND JUST THINKING ABOUT MICRO MOBILITY AND ELECTRIC ELECTRIC BIKES.
IT WAS LIKE, I, I DON'T HAVE ONE, BUT I IMAGINE HILLS ARE GONNA BE A LOT EASIER ON THEM.
SO JUST STILL THINKING ABOUT THAT CONNECTIVITY, ESPECIALLY AT, UH, I LIVE, I LIVE VERY CLOSE TO THE FAIRGROUND, SO JUST THINKING ABOUT HOW THAT'S A CENTER POINT OF POTENTIAL ACTIVITY.
THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON RIGHT NOW THAT'S LOTS OF FUN TOO.
SO LOOKING FORWARD TO MORE STUFF IN THE FUTURE, BUT DRAWING THOSE CONNECTIONS IS, IS EXCITING.
UM, AND THEN THE OTHER, I GUESS THE QUESTION WOULD BE, UM, IS IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE THIS, UM, THE SHAPE FILE SHARED TO KIND OF DO THAT ANALYSIS I WAS TALKING ABOUT OF LIKE, LOOKING AT THAT COMPLETE CONNECTED NETWORK? I THINK THAT WOULD, FOR ME AT LEAST, HELP KIND OF FILL IN SOME OF THE GAPS, UM, IN TERMS OF RECOMMENDATIONS AND STUFF ALONG THOSE LINES.
SINCE YOU ARE A GIS PERSON, UH, WE CAN SEND YOU THAT
UM, WILL THIS COME BEFORE US AGAIN BEFORE COUNSEL? I KNOW YOU WANTED TO OH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
SO THIS WHOLE, THE, THE PLAN AS A WHOLE WILL GO IN DRAFT FORM TO, UM, TO PBA C PLANNING COMMISSION.
WE TALKED ABOUT TAKING IT TO RMPC, UM, SORRY, THAT'S THE RECREATION MUSIC AND PARKS COMMISSION.
UM, AND THEN, SO KIND OF DO THE, THE COMMITTEE COMMISSION ROAD SHOW FOR REVIEW AND COMMENTS PRIOR TO GOING TO COUNCIL FOR ADOPTION.
AND I THINK AT SOME POINT YOU SAID YOU WERE HOPING TO GET THIS IN FRONT OF COUNCIL EARLY 2024, THAT STILL IT WOULD, WELL, IT WON'T GO THERE UNTIL IT'S GONE THROUGH ALL THESE OTHER STAGES FIRST, SO, YEAH.
UH, IT'S PROBABLY, IT'S PROBABLY SUMMER, MAYBE SPRING, YEAH, MID, MID 24 AT THIS POINT.
UM, BUT WE DO, WE, WE WILL BE, OUR GOAL IS TO TRY TO GET PRIORITY PROJECTS OUT OF THIS FOR, UH, AN APP, UH, A GRANT APPLICATION FOR THE NEXT CYCLE OF THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM.
SO, UM, AND THAT CALL FOR PROJECTS WILL BE OUT IN ABOUT SPRING OF 2024
SO, UH, AND I THINK THOSE ARE DUE IN THE SUMMER.
I'M LOOKING AT ADAM 'CAUSE HE WORKS FOR SCTA
SO WE, THE GOAL IS TO THAT, THAT'S A, A BIG, UM, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S A BIG DRIVER RIGHT NOW.
UM, AT LEAST TO IDENTIFY PRIORITIES, EVEN IF THE PLAN HASN'T BEEN FORMALLY ADOPTED BY COUNCIL, IT WOULD BE NICE TO KNOW WITH SOME CERTAINTY WHAT OUR PRIORITY PROJECTS ARE.
AND THEN OUR PLAN IS TO SUBMIT A WHOLE PACKAGE OF PRIORITY PROJECTS AND HOPEFULLY GET THEM ALL AWARDED AND, UM, AND THEN BE ABLE TO, UH, GET, GET THE REAL KEY GAPS, UH, CLOSED.
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THANK YOU.YEAH, I THINK I, I AM NOT A GIS PERSON, BUT I LOVE MAPS AND LOOKING AT MAPS, AND I THINK WE ALL DO.
AND I, I JUST WANNA APPRECIATE THAT THIS HAS BEEN CHALLENGING, I THINK FOR EVERYONE.
AND YOU INCLUDED
AND THERE, THERE'S JUST NO PERFECT WAY TO DO THAT.
AND, AND IT HAS BEEN, IT'S BEEN HARD.
AND I, UM, WANNA APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT, PETE, THAT THE PLAN IS ONLY AS STRONG AS ITS WEAKEST LINK.
I THINK I LIKE TO BE AN OPTIMIST, BUT THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT AND PRAGMATIC WAY TO MOVE FORWARD FROM, FROM HERE.
AND YEAH, I JUST APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE ON THIS.
UM, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR, YOUR ANALYSIS.
[COMMITTEE COMMENT]
COMMENT NOW.DURING COMMITTEE COMMENT, MEMBERS ARE INVITED TO BRIEFLY SHARE UPDATES RELEVANT TO THIS COMMITTEE, INCLUDING LIAISON REPORTS FROM OTHER CITY BODIES AND MAKE REQUESTS FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. DIALOGUE BETWEEN MEMBERS SHOULD BE LIMITED TO CLARIFYING QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS.
THERE WILL BE NO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.
UM, AND I WILL START WITH MARJA.
SO THIS IS COMMITTEE COMMENT, RIGHT? OKAY.
UM, YEAH, I HAVE ONE COMMENT TO MAKE.
I'M, I'VE BEEN ATTENDING THE, UM, UM, I'VE BEEN ATTENDING MEETINGS IN SANTA ROSA WHERE WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, UM, A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALK ABOUT HERE.
AND I WAS, UM, PLEASANTLY SURPRISED AT OUR LAST MEETING, UM, THAT ONE OF THE GALS PRESENTED THE FACT THAT BIKE SHARE IS COMING BACK.
THAT WAS THAT
BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THE BIKE SHARE PROGRAM RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE FINISHING UP, UM, THE CONTRACT AND THEY ARE LOOKING AT A TWO YEAR PILOT PROGRAM WITH, AGAIN, 300 BIKES, WHICH HASN'T CHANGED.
THAT PART HASN'T CHANGED SINCE, UH, THE FIRST ITERATION OF THIS.
AND, UM, MAYBE IT'S TIME WHERE WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WE WANT PETALUMA'S BIKE SHARE TO LOOK LIKE, AND MAYBE WE NEED TO FORM REFORM THE AD HOC COMMITTEE WITH THE TRANSIT, UM, OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
BUT I DO
SO, UM, WE'VE GOTTA GET OUR EGGS IN ORDER AND GET BACK TO WHAT WHATEVER WE HAD BEFORE THIS, THE HIATUS HAPPENED.
SO ANYWAY, THAT'S WHAT I'M REPORTING.
SO YEAH, EXCITING THAT BIKE SHARES COMING.
IT'S IDEALLY LOOKING AT, UM, THE SUMMERTIME.
UH, I THINK THERE'S DISCUSSIONS RIGHT NOW AROUND KIND OF BRANDING, UM, THE NAME IS OUT THERE KIND OF GETTING TOSSED AROUND AND IT'S A NEGOTIATION KIND OF BETWEEN MARIN AND SONOMA, BUT I THINK PEOPLE SAW THAT LIST, KIND OF REDWOOD RIDES, NORTH BAY BIKES, SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES FEELS LIKE IT'S GONNA BE PROBABLY SPEAKING AHEAD OF MYSELF, BUT SOMETHING THAT YEAH, SHOULD BE COOL AND HOPEFULLY GIVE US AN IDENTITY, YOU KNOW, FOR WHERE WE'RE, UM, WHERE WE LIVE.
UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S EXCITING.
UM, AND YEAH, I THINK I'LL CONCLUDE MY COMMENTS WITH THAT.
UM, THIS IS SLIGHTLY UNRELATED, BUT I, UM, I'LL JUST SHARE THAT, UM, ESSENTIALLY MY KIDS AND I HAVE STARTED A LITTLE, UM, PUBLIC, I DON'T KNOW, CURIOSITY PROJECT THAT WE'VE CALLED FAMILIAR STRANGERS.
AND WE, UM, HAVE A LITTLE CART ON THE BACK OF OUR CARGO BIKE AND WE DO A POP-UP COFFEE STAND, AND WE'VE BEEN GOING AROUND TO DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS AND I BRING THE A TP MAPS AND WE JUST SORT OF TALK TO PEOPLE ABOUT THEIR EXPERIENCE AND, UM, LIKE WHAT WOULD IT BE LIKE TO HAVE A FOOD TRUCK HERE OR A COFFEE SHOP? AND SOME PEOPLE REALLY LIKE IT.
SOME PEOPLE SAY LIKE, GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR BUSINESS MISS, AND DON'T REALLY, UM,
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UNDERSTAND.MY KIDS HAVE EXPERIENCED A LOT OF DIFFERENT PARKS AND IT'S JUST BEEN, UM, AN INTERESTING EXPERIMENT.
AND I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN, UM, JUST USING FAMILIAR STRANGERS TO FACILITATE ANY CONVERSATIONS WITHIN CITY PROJECTS AND, AND ET CETERA.
IT'S JUST, IT'S BEEN FUN AND, UM, A GOOD LEARNING EXPERIENCE AND WAY TO CONNECT WITH PEOPLE.
AND IT SOUNDS LIKE A PODCAST TITLE.
IS THERE A PLAN FOR OUR A TP AD HOC TO MEET AGAIN? YEAH.
YES, I'LL LOOK FOR AN EMAIL ON THAT.
AND THEN, UM, A REQUEST, THERE ARE A LOT OF INCONVENIENT BALLARDS ALONG THE CORONA CREEK TRAIL.
IS IT POSSIBLE WE COULD PUT IN A WORK ORDER TO GET SOME OF THOSE TAKEN OUT? OKAY.
UM, COUNSEL HAS NOT MET MANY TIMES RECENTLY, UM, BUT I DO HAVE SOME THINGS TO REPORT OUT ON, UM, THE OVERLAY, WHICH HAS BEEN KIND OF CONTROVERSIAL AND IN THE SOCIAL MEDIA NEWS RECENTLY IS, UH, WAS PULLED.
UM, THE APPLICANT PULLED IT AND CONTINUED IT TO, UM, SOME FUTURE DATE.
AND I'M NOT SURE WHEN, UM, WE HAD A NICE CELEBRATION, UH, FOR THE SMART, UH, NEW SMART STATION, GROUNDBREAKING.
I GOT TO HOLD MY FIRST GOLDEN SHOVEL.
UM, UH, THERE WAS A NO BEFORE YOU GROW EVENT WITH, UH, A GROUP CALLED NOT JUST BIKES, AND, UM, UH, LIKE ONE OF THE LEADING, UH, URBAN ECONOMISTS NAMED JOE OZZI TALKING ABOUT THE ECONOMICS OF SPRAWL VERSUS INFILL DEVELOPMENT.
UM, IF, IF Y'ALL ARE INTERESTED IN, IN URBAN ECONOMICS THE WAY THAT I AM, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO, TO CHECK OUT THE CHECK OUT THAT, UM, UH, THE LIGHTED BOAT PARADE IS THIS SATURDAY.
SO WALK OR ROLL ON DOWN, UM, I'D BE INTERESTED IN A SCOOTER SHARE AT SOME POINT.
UM, I SAW AN IMAGE, I HAVEN'T EXPERIENCED IT YET, BUT I SAW AN IMAGE OF AN ELEVATED CROSSWALK GOING ONTO A FREEWAY ON RAMP UP IN WINDSOR.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS PRETTY INTERESTING.
AND JUST SORT OF A WAY TO LIKE FOREST DRIVERS TO SLOW THE HELL DOWN AND, UM, YOU KNOW, REALLY KIND OF YIELD.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS AN INTERESTING THING TO SHARE.
AND THEN MY FINAL, OH, AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT IT IN YOUR NEXT THING, BUT ON THE MACKENZIE, I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SEE THE, THE STUFF TAKEN OFF OF THE MACKENZIE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE RAMP.
I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S LIKE SOME LIKE SIMPLE RAMP THAT WE CAN MAKE GOING OFF THERE, OR MAYBE I CAN JUST GO MAKE IT MYSELF OR SOMETHING.
IT DOESN'T SEEM THAT HARD, BUT, UM, IT WOULD BE NICE TO NOT HAVE TO HIT THE BOTTOM OF THAT THING AND THEN TURN RIGHT IMMEDIATELY.
UM, AND THEN THE FINAL THING, UM, I'VE MENTIONED THE FAIRGROUNDS A BUNCH, AND THAT'S BECAUSE, UH, ALL OF THE TENANT LEASES ARE NOW EXTENDED FOR THREE YEARS.
UM, WE'RE GONNA BE LIKE, LIKE, UM, EXITING THE, OR HOPEFULLY FINALIZING THE AGREEMENT WITH THE FOURTH DISTRICT AG ASSOCIATION TO KEEP PUTTING ON, UH, THE FAIRGROUNDS FOR OR THE FAIR FOR ANOTHER THREE YEARS AT LEAST.
UM, AND SO ALL OF THAT IS, UM, BASICALLY ALL THE THINGS WE SAID SAID WE WERE GONNA DO ON THE FAIRGROUNDS ARE, UM, LIKE WE'VE REACHED A MILESTONE AND WE'LL BE GETTING THE KEYS TO THE, THE PROPERTY ON JANUARY 1ST.
UM, AND AS PART OF THAT, THERE'S BEEN ALL KINDS OF TALK ABOUT WHAT KINDS OF THINGS CAN WE DO THERE.
HERE'S A FEW THAT I KNOW ARE, UM, PERCOLATING.
UM, THERE'S A GROUP THAT IS WORKING TO BRING A BMX TRACK TO THE INFIELD OF THE PETALUMA SPEEDWAY.
SO THAT WOULD TURN, UM, A USE THAT'S USED 25 OR 30 NIGHTS A YEAR INTO SOMETHING THAT'S USED 250 DAYS A YEAR, UM, AND BRINGING YOUTH TO THE CENTER OF OUR CITY AND OBVIOUSLY DRIVING DEMAND FOR SAFE ROUTES TO THE FAIRGROUNDS.
UM, SO SOMETHING I'M PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT AND I HAVE BEEN PERSONALLY INVOLVED IN THAT ONE.
UM, THERE IS, UH, MULTIPLE DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS MOVING IN PARALLEL ABOUT DOING, UH, LIKE FOUR SEASONS BALL POP UP IN THE EXPO HALL THAT'S NEVER USED.
UM, WE'LL BE GETTING IT BACK IN JANUARY.
IT'LL PROBABLY BE RAINING AND THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO JUST GET PEOPLE IN THERE, UM, AND, AND USING THE PLACE, UM, SOME MORE FUTURE LOOKING ONES THAT I THOUGHT WERE PRETTY INTERESTING, A CLIMBING WALL ON THE BACK OF THE, UH, SPEEDWAY BLEACHERS.
UM, BUT JUST I THINK LIKE THERE'S A TON OF REALLY EXCITING OPPORTUNITIES WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO LOSE A DAMN THING, BUT WE CAN LIKE REALLY ACTIVATE THAT SPACE.
UM, AND IT'S LIKE HAVING A BIG GIANT BALL OF CLAY AND, UM, I THINK FOR THE BIKE PED NERDS IN THE CITY, UM, THINKING ABOUT HOW TO GET THERE AND THINKING ABOUT ALL THE THINGS WE CAN DO TO ACTIVATE IT, IT JUST IS, UM, REALLY AN EXCITING OPPORTUNITY.
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SO THAT'S IT.AND IT SLOW THE FAST DOWN, BRIAN.
IT WAS LIKE SEVEN OR EIGHT MILES LONG.
THEY HAD RUNNING RACES, YOU HAD EVERY FORM OF ROLLING TRANSPORTATION.
THERE WERE SO MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE WERE FOOD TRUCKS THERE.
YEAH, THE CITY HAD A PRESENCE AND IT JUST, IT'S LIKE THE CYCLOVIA ON STEROIDS.
I MEAN, IT WAS JUST, PEOPLE WERE SO EXCITED, LOTS OF FAMILIES CAME DOWN.
AND SO IT JUST GIVES ME THIS IDEA THAT WHAT IF, WHAT IF WE CLOSED, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, SON MOUNTAIN PARKWAY OR AN ELI OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND JUST ENCOURAGED EVERYONE TO COME OUT FOR SOME LIMITED PERIOD OF TIME.
I THINK THAT THIS WAS CLOSED FOR MAYBE FIVE OR SIX HOURS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, SO THEY COULD HAVE REAL RUNNING RACES AND, AND EVERYONE ENJOY THEMSELVES, BUT IT WAS, UM, IT WAS SO ENERGIZING TO SEE EVERYBODY DOING THEIR OWN THING AT VERY DIFFERENT PACES, BUT EVERYONE HAVING A GREAT TIME.
UH, SO I JUST WANTED TO MENTION, UH, AND I REALIZE THERE'S A LOT MORE PEOPLE DOWN THERE AND THERE'S A LOT MORE, UH, OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO GET AROUND WHEN YOU CLOSE SOMETHING, BUT, UH, IT'S JUST AN INTERESTING IDEA ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, EAST WASHINGTON OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT WOULD LET PEOPLE HAVE A DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE OF A CORRIDOR LIKE THAT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT.
[STAFF COMMENT]
NEXT IS STAFF COMMENT.SORRY, ONE QUICK THING I FORGOT TO MENTION ALSO, UM, WAS A REQUEST, I GUESS I DON'T THINK IT'S BEEN MENTIONED, BUT FOR A PRESENTATION, UM, ONE THAT, UH, JOHN TRIBS, PEAK GANG AND MYSELF HAVE BEEN PUTTING TOGETHER ON MICRO MOBILITY.
UM, SO I'VE GIVEN THAT AT THE S-C-T-A-P BACK RECENTLY, SO IT'S PRIMED AND READY TO GO.
SO JUST A LOT OF HELPFUL RELEVANT DATA FROM THE MICRO MOBILITY USA CONFERENCE KIND OF NOTES, IMPRESSIONS, TECHNOLOGY, POSSI, POLICY IMPLICATIONS THAT I THINK KIND OF CAN HELP US HELP INFORM THE A TP QUITE A BIT.
SO DEFINITELY IN TERMS OF TIMELINESS, I THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO KIND OF PUSH THAT TO THE TOP OVER LIKE THE PETALUMA RIVER PARKWAY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT.
I'VE, YEAH, I'VE GOT YOU, I'VE GOT THAT IN, IN MY LIST, UH, AT FOR MY LAST SLIDE HERE.
UH, BUT GOOD TO KNOW THAT IT'S ALREADY READY TO GO AND, AND GOOD POINTS ABOUT THE TIME, THE TIMELINESS.
UM, ALRIGHT, SO I'LL RUN THROUGH UPDATES.
UM, SO AS COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLE HIGHLIGHTED, UM, OUR CREWS RECENTLY GOT OUT AND CLEANED OUT THAT ENTRANCE TO THE, UH, CORONA OR TO THE, SORRY, THE CORONA, THE MACKENZIE OVERCROSSING.
AND YES, IT STILL DOES, UH, NEED, UH, A RAMP.
UM, SO, SO WE WILL HOPEFULLY TRY TO FIGURE THAT OUT.
UM, OBVIOUSLY ANYTIME YOU START DOING CONCRETE WORK, IT'S A LITTLE, LITTLE BIT DICEY, BUT, UM, UH, WE ARE AWARE OF THAT NEED.
AND OUR SAFE STREETS NOMINATION PROGRAM IS, UM, MY, MY INBOX IS ON FIRE RIGHT NOW.
UM, SO THAT'S OUR, OUR PROGRAM WHERE WE ARE, UH, ASKING RESIDENTS TO, UH, UH, CALL OUT AREAS WHERE THEY'D LIKE TO SEE TRAFFIC CALMING OR OTHER SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS.
AND, UH, YEAH, AS OF AS OF DECEMBER 1ST, WE'D RECEIVED, UH, AN AVERAGE OF SEVEN AND A HALF NOMINATIONS PER DAY, UH, 369.
AND, UH, THERE'S A-A-U-R-L FOR PEOPLE CAN GO AHEAD AND NOMINATE.
SO WE'LL, WE'LL BE SCORING A, A BIG BATCH OF PROJECTS, UH, SOMETIME OVER THE WINTER.
WE DO HAVE TO MANUALLY GET THESE ALL IN IN GIS, UH, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY TIED TO ANY, THE, THE WAY THE FORUM WORKS.
IT'S NOT, THEY'RE NOT TIED TO LOCATION, SO THAT'LL TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF WORK.
UM, OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM, UH, JESSICA'S HERE TONIGHT TO REPRESENT THEM.
THEY'VE DONE A WONDERFUL JOB WITH THE SLOW, THE FAST DOWN CAMPAIGN, AND YOU'RE PROBABLY SEEING THE BANNERS AND SIGNS ALL OVER THE CITY.
JESSICA, I BELIEVE BROUGHT SOME HERE TONIGHT.
YOU CAN TAKE HOME WITH YOU IF YOU'D LIKE A YARD SIGN.
AND WE'VE ALSO GOT BUMPER STICKERS.
MAGNETS, YEAH, CAR MAGNETS, CAR MAGNETS STICKERS, LIKE WATER BOTTLES.
SO, UH, AND I KNOW THERE ARE, THERE ARE, THEY'RE PLANNING ON, UH, A LOT MORE ACTIVITIES AND, AND, UM, MEDIUMS, UH, TO GET THE, TO GET THE WORD OUT.
SO, UM, AND I THINK WE, WE ALSO WILL INVITE THEM BACK TO, UH, TO SHOW OFF A LITTLE BIT AND, UH, AND ALSO GET FEED
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FEEDBACK FROM FEEDBACK ON WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE IN THIS CAMPAIGN.UM, DEFINITELY SUPPORT BRINGING 'EM IN FOR A PRESENTATION.
HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE TAKEN THE PLEDGE SO FAR? OH, GOOD POINT.
SO, AND THIS IS, WE LAUNCHED OCTOBER 30TH.
YEAH, WE LAUNCHED IT TO THE COMMUNITY.
SO WE ARE, UH, DEFINITELY BETWEEN THE SLOW, THE FAST DOWN AND THE SAFE STREETS NOMINATION PROGRAM, THERE'S A, A GREAT, UM, THERE'S DEFINITELY DEMAND OUT THERE AND AN APPETITE FOR, UH, PEOPLE TO SLOW DOWN
THE METROPOLITAN TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION RECENTLY PUT OUT A REQUEST FOR, UH, PROJECTS WHERE CITIES WOULD, WOULD LIKE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE ON, UH, ANY SORT OF PLANNING OR DESIGN EFFORT RELATED TO ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION.
WE SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION FOR THE LAKEVILLE CORRIDOR STUDY, WHICH WE ALSO SUBMITTED TO, UM, THE U-S-D-O-T FOR SAFE STREETS FOR ALL.
AND, UH, RECEIVED A RECOMMENDATION FOR $40,000 FOR THAT.
AND THEN WE ALSO, UH, RECEIVED CONFIRMATION THAT MTC WILL PROVIDE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE ON OUR ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM, UH, APPLICATION NEXT YEAR IN 2024.
AND, UH, WHAT WE OUTLINED FOR THEM WAS A, A PACKAGE OF ALL OF THE PRIORITY PROJECTS, LIKE I DESCRIBED, THAT COME OUT OF THE ACTIVE, THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
SO BASICALLY, LIKE I SAID, WE WOULD, WE WOULD JUST BUNDLE TOGETHER ALL OF THE TOP PROJECTS.
WE'LL DEFINITELY BRING THAT TO PBA FOR YOUR REVIEW AND INPUT AND BLESSING ON THE, THE LIST OF PROJECTS, UM, AND THEN SUBMIT THEM AS A PACKAGE, UH, 1, 1, 1, YOU KNOW, A BUNDLE OF PROJECTS, NOT JUST ONE PROJECT.
UM, AND, AND THEN WE STILL, UH, ARE WAITING TO HEAR BACK ON THE SAFE STREETS FOR ALL APPLICATION.
THAT WAS A $3.2 MILLION REQUEST FOR CITYWIDE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS.
AND THEN, UH, ABOUT 200,000 FOR THAT LAKEVILLE CORRIDOR STUDY.
SO, UM, I BELIEVE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HEAR BACK ON THAT THIS MONTH IS THE, WHAT WE'RE HEARING, THE, UH, UPCOMING EVENTS.
NOT TOO MANY WITH THE HOLIDAYS, BUT, UH, WE DO HAVE A REMINDER EVERY THIRD THURSDAY OF THE MONTH WE ARE SAFE ROUTES TO TASK, SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL TASK FORCE MEETS.
OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE FOCUSED ON MCDOWELL AND MCKINLEY.
I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT SHORTLY.
WE'VE GOT THE HOLIDAY LIGHTED BIKE RIDE THAT PETE, UH, MENTIONED ON DECEMBER 22ND.
AND THEN, UM, OUR NEXT SAFE ROUTES MEETING, JANUARY 18TH.
SO SAFE ROUTES SCHOOL TASK FORCE, REALLY EXCITED THAT WE HAVE THAT, UH, OFF THE GROUND.
UM, WE HAVE HAD TWO MEETINGS SO FAR AS WELL AS A, UM, AS WELL AS A WALK AUDIT.
SO WE JUST, UH, LAST WEEK DID OUR WALK AUDIT AT MCDOWELL ELEMENTARY.
UM, WE ARE, WE'VE DEVELOPED A, A SCHEDULE TO TRY TO REACH ALL PUBLIC SCHOOLS WITHIN PETALUMA BY, I BELIEVE WE CAN GET TO, IF WE DO MONTHLY WALK AUDITS, WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE THEM ALL DONE IN, UM, EARLY 2025.
UM, SO AGAIN, ONE, ONE SCHOOL A MONTH OR, OR DOUBLING UP WHERE IT MAKES SENSE WHERE SCHOOLS ARE REALLY CLOSE TO EACH OTHER AND THE ORDER OF THE LIST, WE, UM, SET BASED ON NUMBER OF COLLISIONS THAT HAVE OCCURRED NEAR THE SCHOOLS OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
SO MCDOWELL WAS THE, UH, UH, THE TOP RANKING SCHOOL IN THAT UNFORTUNATE CATEGORY.
UH, MCKINLEY IS RANKED SECOND.
SO OUR NEXT WALK AUDIT TAKES US TO MCKINLEY IN, UH, EARLY JANUARY.
UM, AT OUR DECEMBER SAFE ROUTES MEETING.
WE WILL BE DEBRIEFING OUR MCDOWELL WALK AUDIT AND THEN PREVIEWING OUR MCKINLEY WALK AUDIT.
AND THAT'S THE APPROACH THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT FOR ALL OF THE MEETINGS MOVING FORWARD, WHERE WE'LL BASICALLY ALWAYS HAVE TWO SCHOOLS THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
UM, AND, UH, UH, AND, UH, AGAIN, THOSE AGENDAS ARE POSTED TO SAFE ROUTES, OMA COUNTY, SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL'S WEBSITE.
UM, THAT'S A, IT'S A, WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO BE A PARTNER IN IT, BUT, UH, SAFE ROUTES IS TAKING THE LEAD ON FACILITATING THOSE MEETINGS AND, UM, AND, UH, AND, AND POSTING THE AGENDAS AND, AND MINUTES AND WHATNOT.
OUR, UM, OUR, UH, SORRY, EXCUSE ME.
THE HOLIDAY, UH, LIGHT BIKE RIDE, UH, PUT ON BY STATE STREET'S, PETALUMA AND, AND SEVERAL OTHER COMMUNITY GROUPS AND, AND BUSINESSES IS ON FRIDAY THE 22ND AT FIVE 30.
UM, I KNOW, UH, THERE'S A ROUTE PLANNED FLAT, FIVE MILE ISH, PETE, UH, ROUND WEST PETALUMA, ALL AGES FRIENDLY, START AND FINISH AT AQUAS.
AND IS THERE A PLACE, PETE, WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO FOR MORE INFO OR JUST, UH, THERE'S FACEBOOK EVENT.
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LOT MORE INFO THAN OKAY.SEE IF YOU SIGN UP, DON'T THEY SEND, I, IT SEEMS TO ME I SIGNED UP AND HAVE AN EMAIL BACK SHOWING ME THE ROUTE TODAY.
AND BECAUSE THIS WAS INCLUDED IN THE STAFF UPDATES LAST MONTH, WHICH WE DID NOT GET TO, BUT JUST WANTED TO QUICKLY HIGHLIGHT THAT.
OBVIOUSLY THERE'S ALSO THE, THE COUNTYWIDE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN UPDATE GOING ON.
UH, RIGHT NOW, SEVERAL AGENCIES, INCLUDING THE UNINCORPORATED COUNTY, WHICH IS, UH, RELEVANT TO US HERE.
I'VE LOOKED AT THEIR, UH, SOCIAL PINPOINT MAP.
THEY'VE GOT A LOT OF, THEY'VE RECEIVED A LOT OF COMMENTS IN PETALUMA.
LIKEWISE, WE RECEIVED A LOT OF COMMENTS THAT ARE OUT IN THE COUNTY.
SO WE WILL BE DOING THAT DATA EXCHANGE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING TO EACH OTHER.
WE ARE AWARE OF THE FEEDBACK THAT, THAT BOTH EFFORTS ARE GETTING.
BUT, UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON IMPROVEMENTS YOU'D LIKE TO SEE, ESPECIALLY ON, ON THE UNINCORPORATED ROADS JUST OUTSIDE OF THE CITY, THIS WOULD BE A GREAT WAY TO, TO GET THAT FEEDBACK IN.
AND, UH, LIKEWISE, CALTRANS DISTRICT FOUR IS UPDATING THEIR BAY AREA WIDE BIKE PLAN.
UM, SO AGAIN, FOR US, UH, WHAT'S MOST RELEVANT HERE IS, UH, THE LAKEVILLE CORRIDOR AND ANYTHING TOUCHING, UH, 1 0 1.
AND, UH, SO THEY'VE GOT A SURVEY AND A COMMENT MAP AS WELL.
AND HERE'S OUR GROWING LIST OF UPCOMING AGENDA ITEMS. UM, I'LL HIGHLIGHT SOME, UH, JUST TRY TO HIGHLIGHT SOME ADDITIONS HERE.
I DID JUST ADD, I ADDED THE SNOW MEMBER AND BIKE SHARE, UH, SLOW THE FAST DOWN CAMPAIGN.
UM, WE'VE GOT ADAM, THE ADAM'S MICRO MOBILITY PRESENTATION ALONG WITH COUNCIL MEMBER SHRI AND PETE.
AND THEN I KNOW, UH, COMMITTEE MEMBER BOND, YOU'VE ALSO OFFERED, OFFERED TO PRESENT ON YOUR BLUE ZONES, UM, TRAFFIC CALMING DEMONSTRATION PROJECT.
SO YEAH, A LOT OF, LOT OF ITEMS TO GO THROUGH HERE, BUT, UM, AS ALWAYS, FEEL FREE TO ADD TO THE LIST.
IT'D BE GOOD TO BLAST THAT OUT.
IT WAS IN THE LAST, YES, IT WAS IN THE LAST ONE.
ALRIGHT, SO THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT.
OH, AND I, I DIDN'T MENTION, UM, I WANTED TO GRAB SOME PICTURES TODAY.
UH, WE DID JUST HAVE SOME, SOME WORK THIS WEEK DONE ON GARFIELD DRIVE.
THE STRIPING IS WRAPPING UP THERE.
THEY'VE BEEN ADDING THE, THE PAINTED BULL BOUTS AND SIGNAGE OUT IN THE STREET.
AND, UH, LIKEWISE, UH, WE DID SOME, WE ARE, UH, OR THERE'S A CREW DOING SOME PAINTED BULL BOUTS ON JEFFERSON STREET.
AND THAT WAS, UH, AT JEFFERSON AND VALLEJO, UM, IN RESPONSE TO A COLLISION THAT HAPPENED EARLIER IN THE YEAR INVOLVING A, A 5-YEAR-OLD BOY WHO WAS HIT WHILE, UH, CROSSING JEFFERSON STREET AT THE VALLEJO STREET INTERSECTION.
SO WE'VE GOT SOME STRIPING IMPROVEMENTS, PAINTED BULL BOUTS, MOVING THE STOP SIGNS OUT INTO THE STREET WITH THE BUMPER BLOCKS, KIND OF DOING THE, YEAH.
UM, SHORTENING UP THE, THE CROSSING DISTANCE AND, AND CALLING MORE ATTENTION TO THE, TO THE STOP STOP SIGNS.
UH, WE ALSO TOOK THAT OPPORTUNITY TO SHORT TO ADD A BULL BOUT AT THE, THE REALLY AWKWARD, UH, INTERSECTION OF JEFFERSON AND PAY RAN.
YOU'VE GOT THAT BIG, UH, THERE'S A REALLY AWKWARD CORNER THERE WITH A, THAT MAKES IT A REALLY, REALLY LONG CROSSWALK.
SO WE'VE, UM, DONE THE SAME, UH, ADDED A PAINTED BULB OUT TO TRY TO SHORTEN THAT CROSSING DISTANCE AND, AND IMPROVE VISIBILITY.
UM, THOSE ARE UNDERWAY THIS WEEK.
WITH THAT WE ADJOURN, OOPS, SORRY.
UM, ON THE BIKE PLAN UPDATE, DOES THAT FOR CALTRANS, IS THAT RELEVANT FOR THE OFF RAMP INTERSECTIONS TOO? WOULD THAT BE A PLACE TO FOCUS THOSE DISCUSSIONS? COMMENTS? YEAH.
CAL, GENERALLY CALTRANS JURISDICTION INCLUDES ANYWHERE WHERE THERE ARE RAMPS, UH, INTERFACE WITH A, WITH A CITY, CITY STREET, OR SOMETIMES IT'S, IT'S A CALTRANS INTER, IT'S, IT'S A CALTRANS INTERSECTION, SO.
WITH THAT, WE ADJOIN AT NINE 15.