* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:03] GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE REGULAR [CALL TO ORDER] MEETING OF THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION FOR THURSDAY, DECEMBER 14TH. COULD YOU PLEASE TAKE THE ROLL CALL? I THINK WE'RE LOOKING FOR A ROLL CALL NOW. SHELLY. ACTUALLY PRESENT. BAKER PRESENT. M ADMINISTER. HERE. AMP. HERE. TI HERE. PETERS HERE. FONG SHRIVES HERE. [GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT] THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON ITEMS OF PUBLIC INTEREST THAT ARE WITHIN THE COMMISSION SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION, AND THAT ARE NOT LISTED ON THE CURRENT AGENDA. PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON. DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF PERSONS WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE. TIME WILL BE ALLOCATED IN EACH WILL SHARES TOTALING NO MORE THAN 20 MINUTES. I DO HAVE A FEW COMMENT CARDS. THE FIRST COMMENT I CARD I HAVE IS FROM TARA NOBE. HI. HI. UM, GOOD EVENING. UM, I DIDN'T PLAN TO MAKE A GENERAL COMMENT TODAY, BUT SOMETHING HAPPENED TODAY, SO I THOUGHT I'D MENTION IT. UM, YOU GUYS ARE PROBABLY AWARE, BUT ON THE OFF CHANCE THAT YOU'RE NOT, I'VE BEEN, UM, RECEIVING INFORMATION RECENTLY ON, UM, SOLAR PANELS THAT AREN'T INSTALLED PROPERLY WITH UP-TO-DATE WIRING CAUSING DIRTY ENERGY ARCING WITH THE NEARBY UTILITY POLES PER, UM, UM, WHAT ARE THEY CALLED? NOT TRANSISTORS. UM, THANK YOU. UM, AND THAT IT HAS HEALTH IMPACTS. IT'S, UM, CAUSING DIABETES, IT'S CAUSING MULTIPLE SCLEROSIS. UM, IT AFFECTS PEOPLE THAT ARE DISABLED WITH EMF SENSITIVITY. AND, UM, SO REALLY, WHY AM I MENTIONING THIS? UM, I BELIEVE AS A RETIRED ANALYST THAT FOCUSED ON OPERATIONS PROCESSES AND EXCELLENCE FOR EFFICIENCY AND EFFECTIVENESS, THAT WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THINGS THAT WE WANNA DO IN OUR COMMUNITY, SUCH AS SOLAR PANELS, THAT WE TRY TO REACH INTO OUR ORGANIZATION AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO BUTTON DOWN THE CODE, BUTTON DOWN THE PROCESS OF MONITORING BUTTON DOWN THE ENFORCEMENT WHEN THINGS AREN'T BEING DONE WITH A PERMIT. WHAT DO I MEAN, THINGS NOT BEING DONE WITH A PERMIT? WELL, I WENT ONTO OUR PORTAL OR PERMIT PORTAL TODAY, WHICH IS ABOUT TWO YEARS OLD FOR THE CITY. AND I JUST STARTED LOOKING AT MY NEIGHBORS. 'CAUSE I HAVE A TRANSFORMER RIGHT UP IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE, AND I'M LIKE, OH MY GOD, OUT OF EIGHT OF THEM, FIVE DID NOT HAVE PERMITS FOR THEIR SOLAR PANELS. AND THEN TWO, DIDN'T HAVE 'EM FOR THEIR EV CHARGING STATIONS IN THEIR GARAGES. OKAY, MAYBE THEY DID GET A PERMIT AND IT'S JUST NOT SHOWING UP. LET'S HOPE SO. BUT AT A MINIMUM, [00:05:01] WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THE RIGHT METRICS IF THE DATA ISN'T SHOWING US WHAT WE HAVE. SO I JUST WANNA MAKE A POINT WHENEVER WE CAN, DON'T JUST ASSUME SOLAR PANEL'S GOOD WITHOUT LOCKING IN WHAT WE NEED TO LOCK IN TO MAKE SURE IT'S IMPLEMENTED CORRECTLY. THANK YOU. THE LAST COMMENT CARD I HAVE IS FOR NICOLA PRIDE. HI, I AM THE CHAIRMAN OF THIS PETALUMA SENIOR ADVISORY COMMITTEE. TODAY, I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS A MATTER OF UTMOST IMPORTANCE AND THE NEEDS AND FOR THE NEEDS AND ISSUES OF OUR SENIORS IN OUR COMMUNITY. WE ALL NEED TO BE INVOLVED IN A CRUCIAL CONVERSATION ABOUT THE CHALLENGES FACED BY SENIORS, AND WE NEED TO EXPLORE THE ACTUAL SOLUTIONS TO ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF THOSE WHO REPRESENT 30%, 32% OF OUR POPULATION, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW, BUT AT LEAST ONE IN SIX SENIORS LIVES IN POVERTY. 96% LIVE INDEPENDENTLY. ONLY FOUR RESIDE IN AGGREGATE HOUSING THAT PROVIDES CARE. 30% LIVE ALONE. MORE THAN 20% DO NOT DRIVE OR OWN A CAR. ONE IN NINE LIVE WITH MILD TO SEVERE DEMENTIA. 20% NEED HELP WITH AVERAGE DAILY NEEDS. SHOPPING, CLEANING, COOKING, 40% HAVE AMBULATORY PROBLEMS. LI OR LIMITATIONS, 80% HAVE TWO OR MORE CHRONIC MEDICAL ISSUES. THESE AND OTHER FACTS OF LIFE LEAD TO OLDER ADULTS BEING BEARING THE BRUNT OF ALL DISASTERS IN 2021. HEAT WAVE IN OREGON, THE MEDIAN AGE OF THOSE WHO DIED WITH 67 IN THE CAMPFIRE IN 2018, 85% OF THOSE WHO DIED WERE OVER THE AGE OF 60. AND DURING THE 2023 FIRE RECENTLY IN LAHAINA, 73% OF THOSE WHO DIED WERE OVER THE AGE OF 60. THINK OF THESE FACTS AND ASK YOURSELF, WHAT ARE WE DOING FOR PETALUMA SENIORS? AS AN EXAMPLE, PETALUMA HAS 47 PARKS AND MILES AND MILES OF TRAILS AND SIDEWALKS, BUT MOST ARE NOT SENIOR OR HANDICAP OR FRAIL FRIENDLY. 40% OF OUR PARKS HAVE DESIGNATED FACILITIES FOR THOSE UNDER THE AGE OF 18, INCLUDING THE NEWLY PROPOSED $2.8 MILLION SKATE PARK. WHILE SENIORS HAVE ONE FACILITY, THE SENIOR CENTER AT LUCCHESE, AS SOMEONE TOLD ME AT A RECENT MEETING, WELL, SENIORS CAN GO AT ANY PARK THEY WANT YOU JUST GO, YOU CAN SIT ON A BENCH. IT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR AS SENIORS, WE ARE LUCKY THAT THERE ARE REALLY GREAT NONPROFITS IN TOWN LIKE PETALUMA, SENIOR SERVICES, REBUILDING TOGETHER, PETALUMA AND MANY OTHERS. WE HEAR AT MANY MEETINGS, EVERYBODY TALKING ABOUT HOW HARD THEY'RE WORKING TOWARDS ADDITIONAL BIKE PATHS, THE IMPORTANCE OF PLANTING MORE TREES, THE NEED FOR MORE ART AND PETALUMA. AND WHILE ALL OF THESE ARE SUPER GREAT OBJECTIVES AND IDEAS, THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY, THEY REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY EFFECT ON WHAT THE ACTUAL NEEDS AND ISSUES WE LIVE WITH EVERY DAY. AS SENIORS, THE SENIOR ADVISORY COMMITTEE WANTS THE CITY TO, UM, ASK AND ASK FOR OUR INPUT INTO THE DEVELOPMENT OF ALL THEIR PLANS AND THEIR PROPOSALS WITHIN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS OR SO. THE NUMBER OF THOSE WHO ARE OVER 55 WILL ECLIPSE THOSE WHO ARE UNDER 18. AND SO IN THE END, WHAT CAN WE ALL DO FOR OUR SENIORS, FOR OUR HANDICAP, FOR OUR FRAIL, FOR OUR PETALUMA CITIZENS? THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MS. FRY. UH, I WILL SAY IN RESPONSE TO YOUR COMMENT, UH, IN, IN LIGHT OF RIHANNA'S ABSENCE, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT ALL OF THE FORMAL CITY BODIES ARE WELCOME TO PROVIDE COMMENTS TO THE BLUEPRINT FOR CLIMATE ACTION, AND THAT FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMITTEES WILL BE CONSOLIDATED AND PROVIDED TO THE AD HOC, UH, FOR THEIR REVIEW IN JANUARY. SO IF YOU HAVE NOT DONE SO, IF YOUR COMMITTEE WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT, PLEASE UH, TAKE THIS AS THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, PROVIDE THAT COMMENTARY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THE, [PRESENTATIONS] UH, FIRST ORDER, THE SECOND ORDER OF BUSINESS RATHER, IS A PRESENTATION FROM COOL PETALUMA ON A SUMMARY ON THE BLUEPRINT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. OH. [00:10:02] ALL RIGHT. HI EVERYONE. UH, MOST OF YOU KNOW I'M DEB FOX WITH COOL PETALUMA. I ALSO HAVE JOHN CROWLEY HERE IN THE ROOM. NATASHA COULD NOT BE HERE THIS EVENING, UM, BUT, UH, SHE WAS INTEGRAL IN, IN A MAJOR PART OF THIS CAMPAIGN. SO, UM, UH, SO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT TO YOU. AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE A PARTNER WITH THE CITY FOR THEIR CLIMATE ACTION. AND, UH, NEXT SLIDE. UH, JUST FOR THOSE OF YOU, I THINK MOST OF YOU KNOW, BUT I'LL JUST DO A QUICK REVIEW THAT WE'RE A NONPROFIT THAT INSPIRES, UH, LOCAL COMMUNITY ACTION, UH, CLIMATE ACTION THROUGH COMMUNITY BUILDING. UH, AND, UH, WE GATHER PEOPLE, UH, TO CREATE A COLLABORATIVE TEAM SPIRIT. AND WE DO THAT AT THE BLOCK LEVEL AND IN THE COMMUNITY, UH, SO THAT WE LEARN TOGETHER AND WE DO ACTION TOGETHER. AND SO TONIGHT, AS A LITTLE BIT OF BUILDING ON THAT, SO NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. UH, WE WERE ASKED, UH, TO HELP THE CITY DO COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT FOR CARBON NEUTRALITY. AND, UH, SO WE DID WHAT YOU WOULD CALL THE OUTREACH TO THE USUAL AND THE UNUSUAL SUSPECTS IN THE TOWN. AND I SAY THE USUAL SUSPECTS BECAUSE THAT IS LIKE OUR, OUR BLOCK LEADERS ARE THE PEOPLE, ONE OF THE FIRST ONES WE REACHED OUT TO. UM, AND, BUT I'LL CONTINUE ON AS I NEED TO REMEMBER TO TAKE A DEEP BREATH AND READ MY NOTES. SO APOLOGIES I'M GETTING AHEAD OF MYSELF. UM, BUT THE, WHAT WE WERE CHARGED WITH IS ALLOWING PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE, UH, TO LEARN ABOUT THE BLUEPRINT AND, UH, THE IMPORTANCE OF EVERYONE'S PARTICIPATION IN THE IMPLEMENTATION, AND THEN GATHER SOME FEEDBACK ON SOME, UH, SOME CONCERNS AND, UH, UH, FEARS THAT MAY HAVE COME UP AROUND THE BLUEPRINT. SO STARTING IN OCTOBER, UH, WE ENGAGED OUR, UH, CLIMATE ACTION COMMUNITY THROUGH COOL PETALUMA WITH OUR NEWSLETTER THAT HAS A, UH, 1600 PEOPLE ON IT WITH A 65% OPEN RATE IS WHERE WE STARTED IN OCTOBER. WE ENGAGED OUR 209 BLOCK LEADERS, AND THEREFORE, IN HOPES THAT THEY ALL TALK TO THEIR NEIGHBORS ABOUT IT. UM, OF THAT, WE HAD A COMMUNITY DINNER LEADING UP TO THE, UH, OPEN HOUSE THAT WAS HERE IN OCTOBER, UH, 35 OF THE COMMUNITY ATTENDED. AND THEY ALL WERE FLIPPING THROUGH. THIS PICTURE IS AN EXAMPLE, IS FROM THERE, THEY WERE FLIPPING THROUGH THE ACTUAL ACTION PLANS AND HAVING CONVERSATIONS AROUND IT, WHICH IS OUR WAY OF BUILDING MOMENTUM TO GET PEOPLE TO EVEN START TO DISCUSS THE, UH, THE BLUEPRINT. WE HELD A PIZZA PARTY AT THE OPEN HOUSE AND HAD GAMES FOR KIDS AND REALLY HELPED MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS, UH, COMMUNITY FRIENDLY OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO COME AND GIVE FEEDBACK. AND THEN AT THAT OCTOBER MEETING, AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE EXTENSION, UH, WAS PROVIDED SO THAT OUR COMMUNITY COULD HAVE A LONGER OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE WITH IT. UM, AND SO WHAT WE THEN ENDED UP DOING WAS, UH, HOLDING, UH, 12 COMMUNITY FOCUS GROUPS WITH 50 OF OUR COMMUNITY LEADERS, AND, UH, COORDINATED NINE REVIEWER SESSIONS WITH 40 SUB 47 SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS TO GIVE FEEDBACK ON THE LINE ITEM DETAILS WITHIN THE PLAN. SO, AS YOU KNOW, TO GET THAT FEEDBACK ON 112 PAGE DOCUMENT TOOK A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO TRY TO, UH, FIGURE OUT HOW TO ENGAGE ON IT. SO, UM, THIS IS REALLY WHERE, UM, I'M GONNA GIVE YOU JUST A REALLY SHORT OVERVIEW OF WHAT, UH, WHAT WE ENDED UP USING THE MAJORITY OF FOR OUR PRESENTATIONS IS WE TRANSLATED IT TO HUMAN, IS HOW WE DESCRIBE IT, . SO, PATRICK, IF YOU'LL DO THE NEXT SLIDE, AND I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH THE WHOLE THING. THIS IS ON, UH, IN YOUR PACKET ON UP ON THE, UM, UH, THE PACKET WEBPAGE. UH, BUT SO THIS IS WHAT WE, WE PRESENTED TO PEOPLE, UH, IN OUR FOCUS GROUPS IS, UH, THE CITY OF PETALUMA IS COMMITTED TO STOPPING POLLUTION THAT IS OVERHEATING THE PLANET. NEXT SLIDE. WHY IS TO REDUCE AIR, LOCAL AIR AND WATER POLLUTION TO PROTECT OUR TOWN FROM EXTREME WEATHER AND TO PROTECT THE FUTURE FOR OUR NEXT GENERATION? NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. HOW? IT'S WITH OUR NEW BLUEPRINT FOR CARBON NEUTRALITY. IT'S TO HELP US GUIDE, UH, IT'S A GUIDE TO HELP US REDUCE THE DAMAGE INCURRED BY CLIMATE CHANGE. NEXT SLIDE. AND THEN THE BLUEPRINT INCLUDES WAYS TO IMPROVE BUILDING ENERGY USE, IMPROVE TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS, SAVE WATER AND BUILDINGS AND LANDSCAPES, CREATE LESS WASTE FOR FOOD AND STUFF, PROTECT AND GROW OUR NATURAL ENVIRONMENT. NEXT SLIDE. AND THEN I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE, THESE AGAIN. THIS IS OPEN TO EVERYONE TO SEE, BUT WE WENT THROUGH AND TRANSLATED SOME MAJOR GOALS. AND THE MAIN PIECE THAT WE WERE CONCERNED WITH WAS THE EQUITY CONSIDERATIONS. AND SO WE WENT THROUGH THE, THE, THERE'S FIVE OF THE SEVEN ACTION PLANS, UH, THAT WERE COVERED, THAT WE MET WITH. UM, IF THERE'S ONE MORE SLIDE, THERE WE GO. UH, WE MET WITH THESE SEVEN CONSTITUENT, UH, GROUPS, UM, ON THE SPANISH SPEAKING COMMUNITIES. WE MET WITH, UM, HOLD ON, LET ME CATCH MYSELF UP BECAUSE I TEND TO NOT LOOK DOWN AT MY, UH, SLIDE. UM, UH, WE TOOK AN OVERARCHING STRATEGY THAT WAS SIMILAR TO THE WAY THE COOL BLOCK PROGRAM STARTED, WHICH IS WE DESCRIBED IT AS A BENEVOLENT PYRAMID. YOU START WITH THE, UH, THE LEADERS, AND WE DO [00:15:01] CAPACITY BUILDING THAT WAY, AND WE ENROLL THEM IN THIS, UH, AS A WAY TO HEAR FROM THE LEADERS IN THESE, IN THESE COMMUNITIES. UM, WHAT THE UNITED NATION CALLS IN TERMS OF CA CAPACITY BUILDING IS THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING, STRENGTHENING THE SKILLS, INSTINCTS, ABILITIES, PROCESSES AND RESOURCES THAT ORGANIZATIONS AND COMMUNITIES NEED TO SURVIVE, ADAPT, AND THRIVE IN A FAST CHANGING WORLD. AND SO THAT REALLY SEEMS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS APPLICATION BECAUSE IT REALLY IS THE RELATIONSHIPS AND THEREFORE THE NETWORK BUILDING THAT IS GONNA MAKE THIS BLUEPRINT, UH, REALLY SUCCESSFUL. SO WHEN THOSE 12 FOCUS GROUP, UH, MEETINGS WITH THOSE 50 LEADERS FOR THE SPANISH SPEAKING, IT WAS WITH THE, UH, RELIGIOUS, UH, DIRECTOR OF, FOR THE SPANISH SPEAKING COMMUNITY AT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. IT WAS THE OWNER OF CAFE PUENTE, WHICH IS, UH, IT'S A SPANISH SPEAKING, UH, CAFE THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY GO. AND, UH, POINT OF IT IS TO ACTUALLY ENGAGE THE NON-SPANISH SPEAKING COMMUNITY TO COME AND SPEAK WITH THE SPANISH SPEAKING COMMUNITY OVER A CUP OF COFFEE. UH, WITH THE MCDOWELL FAMILY RESOURCE CENTER FOR THE DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES, WE MET WITH, UH, REBUILD PETALUMA, UH, MID PEN, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THE REDWOOD EMPIRE FOOD BANK FOR SENIORS. WE MET WITH THE SENIOR ADVISORY, UH, COMMITTEE AGE-FRIENDLY PETALUMA, PETALUMA PEOPLE SERVICES. WE MET WITH THE COMMUNITY RELATIONS COUNCIL THAT INCLUDES OUR FAITH-BASED LEADERS. UH, WE MET WITH PETALUMA CITY SCHOOLS AND THE LAW SCHOOL DISTRICT. UH, WE DID NOT GET A CHANCE TO MEET WITH THE ADOBE SCHOOL DISTRICT. IT WAS THE ONE OTHER, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ACTUALLY MANY MORE SCHOOL DISTRICTS SURROUNDING PETALUMA, BUT THERE'S ACTUALLY ONLY THREE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. UM, I DID NOT GET A CHANCE TO MEET WITH THE, UH, OLD ADOBE, BUT I DID GIVE A PRESENTATION TO THE SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL TASK FORCE COMMITTEE, WHICH DOES INCLUDE ALL THE SUPERINTENDENTS OF, UH, IN OUR SCHOOLS, IN OUR, UM, CITY. WE MET WITH THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, AND THEN WE TRIED, UH, THE FARMER'S MARKET TO SEE HOW THAT WOULD, THAT WAS OUR FIRST PLACE THAT WE TRIED. AND WE REALIZED THAT THAT WASN'T GONNA BE THE MOST SUCCESSFUL, MOST ENGAGING WAY TO REALLY GET FEEDBACK BECAUSE OF HOW MUCH INFORMATION THERE IS TO DIGEST, UH, ON A PLAN OF THIS SIZE. UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AND SO, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO, HOW TO GATHER ALL THE FEEDBACK. UH, I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE, UH, FUN TO DO A WORD CLOUD, UH, TO DEMONSTRATE THE WORDS. THAT CAME UP A LOT WHEN WE WERE IN ALL OF THESE MEETINGS. UH, AND YOU'LL SEE THE, THE TWO BIGGEST ONES ARE RENTERS AND LANDLORDS. UM, AND SO, UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS IS WHERE THE KEY FEEDBACK, UM, REALLY IS EDUCATION. AND IT SOUNDS SO OBVIOUS, OF COURSE, EDUCATION'S NEEDED, BUT WHEN WE SPEAK WITH THESE COMMUNITY GROUPS, THE MAIN THINGS THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE FACT THAT THIS LANGUAGE NEEDS TO BE RELATABLE AND IT NEEDS TO DISPEL MYTHS. UM, AND IT NEEDS TO ENGAGE EVERYONE. AND THAT'S HOW IT NEEDS TO BE BIG AND ONGOING. AND IF WE'RE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BEHAVIOR CHANGE, THE MESSAGING NEEDS TO BE UNDERSTANDABLE. UM, AND SO IN THE SPANISH SPEAKING AND SENIOR COMMUNITIES TRUST IS IMPORTANT. UH, THE SPANISH SPEAKING COMMUNITIES, IT'S, UM, THE CHURCH AND UNIVISION ARE THE TWO MAIN OUTLETS THAT THEY'RE MOST LIKELY TO TRUST ABOUT INFORMATION. UM, AND FOR ALL OF THE DISADVANTAGED, THE SENIOR AND THE SPANISH SPEAKING COMMUNITIES, UM, IT NEEDS TO BE WITH PEOPLE THAT THEY TRUST BECAUSE, UH, THEY DON'T WANNA GET RIPPED OFF BY, WE DON'T WANT ANYONE GETTING RIPPED OFF BY STRANGERS COMING TO THEIR DOOR AND TRYING TO SELL THEM SOMETHING THAT IS NOT WHAT THEY NEED. UM, AS NICOLA POINTED OUT, 32% OF OUR POPULATION ARE SENIORS. AND THESE CLIMATE ACTIONS CAN BE POTENTIALLY EXPENSIVE FOR THOSE ON A FIXED INCOME. AND IN THIS CASE, A PARADIGM SHIFT IS GONNA, THAT'S GONNA BE A HARD COMMUNITY, UH, TO GET TO DO THE SOME OF, NOT SOME OR NOT ALL OF THE ACTIONS. SOME OF THE ACTIONS, IT'S MOSTLY THE ELECTRIFICATION IS GONNA BE ONE OF THE HARDEST ONES BECAUSE OF THE COST. BUT SAVINGS IS WHERE, UH, IS THE PIECE THAT REALLY BEING ABLE TO EMPHASIZE, UM, SAVINGS, UH, FOR THEIR HOME IS WHERE IT'S GONNA BE MOST IMPORTANT. BUT AS, UH, DRAKE CUNNINGHAM POINTED OUT AT REBUILD, UH, THIS GOES FOR EVERYONE ON THE EQUITY CON CONSIDERATIONS IS IF YOU PUT IN A NEW ELECTRIC ELECTRICAL APPLIANCE AND THEIR ENERGY BILL OR THEIR ELECTRIC BILL GOES UP, THEY'RE GONNA TURN IT OFF. AND SO WE, IT'S LIKE FIGURING OUT HOW TO, HOW TO BALANCE THOSE TWO NEEDS OF TRYING TO ELECTRIFY EVERYTHING AND AT THE SAME TIME, NOT HAVING ELECTRIC BILLS GO UP. AND SO IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE THING AS WE ALL, YOU KNOW, IF IT, IF IT HAD ALREADY BEEN FIGURED OUT, WE OBVIOUSLY ALL WOULDN'T BE HERE. UH, A LOT OF THE, THERE WAS A LOT OF MISCONCEPTIONS. WE HEARD THROUGH ALL THE GROUPS TALKING ABOUT EVS, BATTERIES, INDUCTION, STOVE TOPS. ALMOST EVERYONE HAS A MISCONCEPTION ABOUT INDUCTION STOVE TOPS. UM, BUT WE ALSO LEARNED THAT THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, ORGANIZATIONS AND MODELS, UH, FOR WORKING WITH THE LOW-INCOME FAMILIES. AND, UM, THE OTHER, UH, DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES LIKE THE MCDOWELL FAMILY RESOURCE CENTER, PETALUMA PEOPLE SERVICES AND PROGRAMS THAT ARE, UM, FARTHER AFIELD IN THE STATE, THAT ARE EXAMPLES THAT WE CAN BRING HERE TO HELP OUR COMMUNITY. UM, WITH THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, IT REALLY IS BRINGING THEM IN AND HAVING THEM BE A PART OF IT, HELPING THEM SEGMENT OUT, [00:20:01] UH, UH, SECTORS THAT ARE GONNA HAVE PAIN POINTS LIKE RESTAURANTS WAS ONE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP ABOUT INDUCTION STOVE TOPS AND HOW HARD THAT WILL BE FOR THEM, UH, TO LEARN HOW TO USE AND DIS DISPEL MYTHS AROUND. THE MAIN ONE THAT WE ALL KNOW THAT WAS ACTUALLY IN THE BLUEPRINT A LOT WAS THE ONE-STOP SHOP IDEA. IT WAS POPULAR, BUT IN, YOU KNOW, REALLY ACCESSIBILITY IS GONNA BE KEY, AND IT NEEDS TO BE FOR EVERYONE. FOR HOMEOWNERS, LANDLORDS, RENTERS BUSINESSES RIGHT NOW, YOU GO TO ALL DIFFERENT SPOTS FOR IF YOU WANT ELECTRICITY OR FOR WATER, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT ALL IN ONE PLACE. SO IT REALLY SPOKE TO THE NEED TO HAVE ONE PLACE FOR ALL THE RESOURCES, FOR EDUCATION, REBATES, INCENTIVES TO UNDERSTAND THE RETURN ON INVESTMENTS, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE FINANCING. UM, WHICH THEN BRINGS UP THE NEXT ONE, WHICH IS ABOUT RENTERS. YOU KNOW, IT REED'S FUNNY UP THERE TO SEE NO ONE WANTS TO ROCK THE BOAT, THEIR LANDLORD'S BOAT. BUT YOU KNOW, THIS REALLY GOES BEYOND, UH, CLIMATE. IT'S THE FACT THAT WE HAVE OUR HOUSING STOCK IN PETALUMA IS SO TIGHT, ESPECIALLY WITH RENTERS, THAT WE HAD, UH, MANY COMMUNITY LEADERS EXPRESS THE FACT THAT THERE, PEOPLE DON'T EVEN WANNA MENTION TO THEIR LANDLORD ABOUT A SIMPLE THING LIKE A DRIP IN THEIR FAUCET, MUCH LESS TO CHANGE OUT A WHOLE LAWN BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT THEIR LANDLORD TO GO, OH, YEAH, AND I WANT TO TURN AROUND AND RAISE THE RENT OR SELL THE HOUSE, OR, THOSE ISSUES ARE REAL AND ARE GONNA BE HARD, UH, ITEMS TO OVERCOME. AND SO THERE WAS SOME GREAT SOLUTIONS THAT CAME UP AROUND, UM, FINDING MODEL LANDLORDS TO BECOME SPOKESPERSONS FOR OTHER OWNERS, ESPECIALLY IN A SMALL TOWN THE SIZE OF OURS THERE, WHERE WE DO, UM, OFTEN KNOW WHO THE LANDLORD IS OR THE COMPANY. SO WHAT MAKE IT A LANDLORD TO LANDLORD, UH, UH, EDUCATION. AND SO, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, AS IT WAS ALREADY STATED, KEEPING IT AFFORDABLE AFTER THE RETROFITS IS GONNA BE, UH, REALLY MOST, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING BECAUSE THE FACT THAT, UH, IT'S MAKING PEOPLE LEAVE OUR TOWN THAT CAN'T, UH, SO THAT WE HAVE A, A DIVERSE, UH, STRATA OF PEOPLE LIVING IN OUR TOWN. UH, NUMBER FOUR, EXPAND THE TRANSIT SYSTEM AND BE INNOVATIVE. UM, AS NICOLA POINTED OUT, ACCESSIBILITY AND MOBILITY FOR OUR SENIORS IS KEY. UH, BUT IT INCLUDES THE, YOU KNOW, IF WE, WE HAVE TO SHIFT THIS HUGE SYSTEM, IT'S 67% OF OUR GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS FOR IS COMING FROM OUR POPULATION THAT ALL OF US THAT WE, HOW WE GET AROUND TOWN. SO SHIFTING THE BUS, BIKE, BUS AND WALKING FOR ALL COMMUNITIES, THE TRANSIT, UH, FOR THE SPANISH SPEAKING COMMUNITY AND DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES HAVING MULTIPLE JOBS, THE TRANSIT SYSTEM DOES NOT WORK AS IT'S CURRENTLY LAID OUT. AND IT, SO IT NEEDS TO BE AFFORDABLE, TIMELY, CONVENIENT SCHOOLS, WE HEARD THAT THEY'RE NOT, THEIR, THEIR STUDENTS ARE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO BIKE AND WALK TO SCHOOL UNTIL THE ROADS ARE SAFER FOR THEM. SO THIS ONE'S, AS YOU ALL, MOST OF YOU KNOW, IT'S, BUT THIS IS MY TOPIC NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART, BUT IT REALLY IS THE ONE THAT'S GONNA BE, UH, A BIG ONE TO HELP US DO MODE SHIFT. UM, WE HAD SOME INNOVATIVE IDEAS. YOU KNOW, I RIDE ACTUALLY HAS MORE TRANSIT RIDER THAN, UH, THE CITY'S TRANSIT. AND THOSE ARE VOLUNTEERS DRIVING AROUND IN INDIVIDUAL CARS. AND IF WE INCENTIVIZE THEM WITH EVS, UH, YOU KNOW, WE END UP HAVING A GREAT WAY TO LIKE, DO THAT MODE SHIFT A LOT QUICKER TO GET MORE PEOPLE INTO EVS SUBSIDIZED . UH, LAST IS TRACKING AND CELEBRATING AND AMPLIFYING WHAT IS ALREADY HAPPENING, YOU KNOW, FOR SCHOOLS. UH, THEY'RE ALREADY DOING THE PARTNERING WITH DAILY ACTS AND RELIEF AND FRIENDS OF THE PETALUMA RIVER AND POINT BLUE FOR EDUCATION AND DOING TREE PLANTINGS AND GARDENS AND RIPARIAN RESTORATION. THEY HAVE MICROGRID PILOT HAPPENING. THEY HAVE BATTERY PACKS TO, FOR THEIR FOOD, UH, FOR THEIR KITCHENS, UH, FOR RESILIENCY. AND THE MAIN THING IS IT'S NOT GETTING TRACKED. THEY'RE NOT, AND THEY DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY FOR THAT, AND IT'S NOT CURRENTLY A PART OF THE BLUEPRINT TO HAVE THAT BE COUNTED. AND SO THAT WAS A KEY PIECE THAT THEY NOTED. THE SCHOOLS NOTED, UM, FOR THE LOW INCOME AND, UM, UH, DISADVANTAGE IN SENIOR COMMUNITIES. THEY ALREADY HAVE A LOW FOOTPRINT, BUT WE NEED TO CELEBRATE THAT PART. UH, THE FAMILY RESOURCE CENTER WAS KEY TO NOTE THAT THEY HAVE A, A MOM WITH SIX KIDS WHO GETS ON THE BUS AND GOES GROCERY SHOPPING. LIKE SHE SHOULD BE OUR MODEL OF WHAT IS POSSIBLE. LIKE IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THAT WE ALL HAVE TO GET EV CARS. THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS FOR US TO DO THAT MODE SHIFT. UM, AND IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THOSE EQUITY CONSIDERATIONS TO TAKE THAT TYPE OF, UH, OF RISING UP AND AMPLIFYING, UH, TO HEART. UH, NEXT SLIDE. UH, AND THEN THE, THE OTHER PART THAT WE DID IS HELPED FACILITATE THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS. UM, AND YOU KNOW, THIS IS, AS I MENTIONED, A VERY WELL CONNECTED COMMUNITY AND FILLED WITH EXPERTS WHO ARE CONNECTED TO OTHER EXPERTS, BOTH, YOU KNOW, IN OUR CITY AND OUTSIDE OF OUR CITY. AND AS JOHN CROWLEY WILL, UH, UH, AS YOU ALL KNOW, SPEAKS VERY HIGHLY TO THE FACT THIS IS OUR SOCIAL CAPITAL. WE, THE CORE IDEA IS THAT SOCIAL CAPITAL IS THAT RELATIONSHIPS MATTER. AND WE USED OUR RELATIONSHIPS TO GET FEEDBACK. WE HAD 47 EXPERTS DOING NINE DIFFERENT COLLABORATIVE MEETINGS, [00:25:01] BRINGING 365 HIGHLY RELEVANT COMMENTS TO THIS BLUEPRINT. AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY UNIQUE FOR A CITY IN MY EXPERIENCE. UM, AND SO AS COOL PETALUMA, WHAT WE DID IS WE JUST HELPED FACILITATE, UH, THOSE, UH, EXPERTS TO INVITE THEM AND THEN, UM, COORDINATE THE MEETINGS. AND, UH, YOU'LL BE HEARING A LITTLE BIT LATER FROM, UH, FOLKS FROM THE CLIMATE ACTION PETALUMA, WHERE THEY SUBMITTED TO YOU ALREADY THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME. THEY WERE PART OF THAT, UH, SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT, UH, FOCUS GROUPS. THEY TOOK ALL THAT INFORMATION AND DID A LOT OF REALLY HARD WORK OF COALESCING DOWN TO SOME REALLY FINE POINTS THAT YOU ALL WERE, UH, EMAILED. UH, IS A, IT'S IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT, AND THEY'LL BE PRESENTING LATER TONIGHT UNDER THE, UH, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT UNDER YOUR, UH, AGENDA ITEM. UH, NEXT SLIDE. I'M ALMOST DONE. UH, SO I SAT IN ALL THOSE FEEDBACK SESSIONS EXCEPT FOR ONE, AND THIS IS NOT THE SAME TYPE OF FEEDBACK THAT I'M GONNA GIVE MINE WERE JUST MY OVERARCHING THINGS THAT I SAW AND HEARD THROUGH EACH OF THOSE, UH, FEEDBACK SESSIONS. AND, UM, THE MAIN ONE THAT I HEARD TIME AND TIME AGAIN IS THE TIMEFRAME NEEDS TO SUPPORT THE FACT THAT WE'RE IN AN EMERGENCY. AND MY FAVORITE COMMENT OF ALL WAS, IT REALLY SHOULD BE PRIORITIZED. NOT BY YEAR, BUT BY HIGH, MEDIUM AND LOW, OR YESTERDAY, TODAY, TOMORROW, THAT PIECE, I'VE HEARD THE MAYOR SPEAK ABOUT IT. WE, WE ALL NEED TO ACT LIKE WE NEED OUR PUBLIC TO REACT. LIKE THIS IS AN EMERGENCY 'CAUSE IT IS. AND THAT'S WHAT A SIMPLE WAY TO READDRESS THAT, UH, TIMEFRAME IS HIGH, MEDIUM, LOW. 'CAUSE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT. UM, THE DOCUMENT IS REALLY SILOED. I HAVE A, A SYSTEMS THINKING BACKGROUND. I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THE FACT THAT IF WE WERE TO ACTUALLY APPLY THESE APPROACHES, NOT IN SILOED WHERE WATER STANDS ON ITS OWN SEPARATE FROM NATURAL RESOURCES, IF WE WERE TO APPLY IT WHERE WE ARE INTEGRATING OUR RESPONSE AND LEVERAGING THE DIFFERENT TOPICS SO THAT ROADS HAVE TREES THAT ARE USING GRAY WATER, LIKE WE COULD ADDRESS A LOT OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE THE, THE LEVELS THAT WE NEED TO GET TO BY SYSTEMATICALLY APPROACHING IT, NOT LOOKING AT IT AS SILOED. NUMBER THREE, SUPPORTED, EVERYBODY MENTIONED IT, THIS NEEDS TO BE SUPPORTED. THE PUBLIC, PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP IS SO KEY FOR THE ACTION TO HAPPEN IMMEDIATELY. UH, LEVERAGING, UH, RESOURCES. THE FIRST ONE BEING MAKING SURE THAT THE CLIMATE ACTIONS ARE, UH, THROUGHOUT EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT, WHICH IT IS. BUT IT NEEDS TO ACTUALLY BE THROUGH EVERY PLAN THAT WE'RE, UH, UTILIZING WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR SURROUNDINGS, UH, CITIES AND COUNTY AND OBVIOUSLY STATE AND FEDERAL RESOURCES. BUT REALLY ALSO WHAT'S HERE IN OUR CITY IS REALLY MAXIMIZING OUR RESOURCES AND, UM, PUTTING THEM TOGETHER IN A WAY THAT MAKES IT, THAT WE ALL RISE TOGETHER AND, AND ADDRESS THIS SOLUTION IS GONNA BE KEY FOR SUCCESS. UH, THE LAST ITEM IS THAT, YOU KNOW, I, I JUST HAVE TO KEEP, I FEEL LIKE I'M JUST REPRESENTING THE, THE 47 AND THIR 50. WHAT'S THAT? 90, ALMOST A HUNDRED PEOPLE THAT CAME ENGAGED WITH THIS IS, UH, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR CITY TO BE A MODEL, UH, THAT NO ONE WANTS TO SEE THIS BLUEPRINT SIT ON THE SHELF. UM, AND SO, UH, WE HEARD THAT OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND, UH, THESE COMMENTS WERE THOUGHTFUL AND EXPERTLY PROVIDED. SO WE HOPE AS, AS MUCH OF THE FEEDBACK AS POSSIBLE CAN BE INCLUDED IN THE BLUEPRINT, UM, AND THAT IT REMAINS A LIVING DOCUMENT FOR OUR COMMUNITY ACTION. UH, AND ON BEHALF OF COOL PETALUMA, WE ARE GRATEFUL TO BE A PART OF BUILDING THE NETWORK OF TRUSTED MESSENGERS AND LOOK FORWARD TO BEING PART OF THE BLUEPRINT ACTION, UH, SO THAT WE CAN BUILD A RESILIENT COMMUNITY DRIVEN HOME THAT WE CALL PETALUMA. SO THANK YOU. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? , AFTER ALL THAT, SORRY, IS, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS? UM, WHAT FORM IS THIS DOCUMENT IN AND, AND WHEN IS IT COMING? 'CAUSE I HAVEN'T SEEN THIS DOCUMENT THAT YOU'VE PRODUCED YET. THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. UH, THERE, IT'S, IT'S ALL IN WORD DOCUMENT NOTES. WE, WE'LL DO A FINAL REPORT AT THE END OF THE YEAR, UH, TO RIHANNA THAT WE PUT ALL OF OUR, UH, COMMENTS THAT WE COLLECTED INTO AND WHOEVER WHO EVERYBODY WAS THAT ATTENDED. UM, WE DO HAVE A, A SYSTEM IN PLACE HERE IN THE CITY ALSO ON OUR WEBSITE WHERE YOU PUT A PAGE NUMBER DOWN AND THEN PUT YOUR COMMENTS ON THAT. SO IT'S BY PAGE NUMBER BECAUSE WE HAVE TO INTEGRATE YOUR STUFF WITH CLIMATE ACTION, WITH ALL OUR STUFF. OH, THAT, YES. SO IT'S, THE EDITING GETS DIFFICULT IF IT'S JUST FREE FORMAT. OH, YES. NO, NO, NO. MY APOLOGIES. THOSE 365 CO UH, COMMENTS ARE LINE ITEM PAGE NUMBERS. UH, WHAT ACTION PLAN, UH, THAT IS IN THAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE CITY. I MISSED THAT PART. THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN SUBMITTED. THERE'S 365 COMMENTS. UH, THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK IS MORE OF THOSE AREN'T LINE ITEM, AND THAT WASN'T WHAT WILL GO INTO THOSE. THAT IS MORE OF AN OVERARCHING JUST HOW WE ENGAGE AND HOW WE CONTINUE TO ENGAGE. AND THAT IS IN A REPORT THAT IS NOT THE LINE [00:30:01] ITEM FEEDBACK. AND IS, UH, THOSE 365 LINE ITEMS, IS THAT THE SAME AS WHAT THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMITTEE JUST TURNED IN? YES, BECAUSE I I READ THOSE. NO, IT, IT, IT WAS THE, THE ONE THAT THE, THE CONSULTANT GAVE FOR EVERYONE TO GIVE FEEDBACK ON IT. IT HAS, IT'S AN EXCEL SPREADSHEET THAT YOU HAD TO LIST WHAT PAGE, WHAT ACTION PLAN, AND THEN YOU GAVE YOUR FEEDBACK ON A LINE. SO THAT'S WHAT WAS SUBMITTED. THE 365 COMMENTS. OKAY. I I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT ONE YET. OKAY. UH, IT WAS SUBMITTED TO THE CITY AND TO, AND TO RIHANNA. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT GOES, I'M NOT SURE IF CITY PROCESS TO KNOW WHERE THOSE COMMENTS, 'CAUSE THAT WOULD BE THE EQUIVALENT OF WHAT RAMEY HAD ON THEIR WEBSITE WHERE YOU JUST SUBMIT THINGS. AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S JUST GOING STRAIGHT TO, UH, RAMEY OR I, THAT WOULD BE A RIHANNA QUESTION THAT I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ANSWER. YES, I, I'VE SUBMITTED MINE AND SO I I'M NOT SURE IF IT WHERE EXACTLY ITSELF YEAH, BUT IT WENT INTO THE SYSTEM. YES. AD HOC. I THINK THAT'S PART OF WHAT MAYBE WE'LL DISCUSS THIS EVENING. THANK YOU. YES, THAT, UH, THAT IS SOME OF WHAT IS INCLUDED IN THE STAFF REPORT FOR ITEM TWO. SO, YEAH. EXCELLENT. UM, GREAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, SO THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION. GREAT, THANK YOU. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, STICK TIGHT, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE SUBMITTED COMMENT CARDS FOR, UH, THE SECOND ITEM, [APPROVAL OF MINUTES] UH, WE'RE MOVING ON TO APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. SO HAVE THERE BEEN ANY CHANGES TO THE MINUTES? OKAY, THE MINUTES ARE DEEMED APPROVED AS DRAFTED. [PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION] ITEM NUMBER THREE ON THE AGENDA, PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS OF CONSIDERATION. CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSIONERS WILL DISCUSS THEIR INDIVIDUAL FEEDBACK OF THE BLUEPRINT AND PROVIDE THE BLUEPRINT AD HOC WITH COPIES OF THEIR FEEDBACK MATRICES FOR CONSIDERATION, THE FEEDBACK MATRICES. THAT'S I GUESS THE CODE WORD FOR WHAT, UH, THE CONVERSATION JUST WAS THE MATRICES. UM, SO BEFORE I LAUNCH INTO IT, THERE IS A STAFF REPORT. PATRICK, ARE YOU PREPARED TO COVER SOME OF THAT OR WOULD YOU? I, I AM AND THANK YOU FOR, UM, ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK AND ALLOW ME TO BE HERE TONIGHT. I AM PATRICK CARTER, THE ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER IN THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. I AM PINCH HITTING FOR RIHANNA, FRANK, WHO, UM, REALLY SENDS HER REGRETS FOR NOT BEING HERE TONIGHT. SHE IS ILL AND, UH, I HOPE SHE IS HOME RESTING RIGHT NOW AND RECOVERING BECAUSE, UM, YEAH, THERE'S A LOT OF BAD STUFF GOING AROUND RIGHT NOW AND WE DON'T, WE DON'T NEED TO SHARE IT. UM, SO THANK YOU FOR, FOR HAVING ME OUT HERE TONIGHT. UM, I TALKED WITH BRIANNA ABOUT THIS PROCESS, SO I'M PREPARED TO, UH, GO OVER THE STAFF REPORT AND HELP YOU KICK OFF THIS DISCUSSION, UM, OF HOW YOU KIND OF CONSOLIDATE THOSE COMMENTS AND THEN, UM, BRING IT BACK FOR MORE DISCUSSION NEXT MONTH. SO, UM, AS YOU'RE PROBABLY MORE AWARE THAN I AM, THERE'S AN AD HOC GROUP THAT'S, UM, CHARGED WITH, UM, WITH THIS CONSOLIDATION OF, OF ALL THESE COMMENTS. UM, WE NEED TO DO THAT, THAT CONSOLIDATION IN A PUBLIC MEETING. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S HAPPENING HERE INSTEAD OF MORE EFFICIENTLY AND LIKE A GOOGLE DOC OR SOMETHING THAT COULD BE SHARED AND, AND, AND BEING, BEING DONE MORE QUICKLY. BUT, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE BROWN ACT AND, AND DOING ALL THE PUBLIC'S BUSINESS IN THE PUBLIC. UM, THAT'S WHY THAT DISCUSSION IS HAPPENING HERE. AND IT ALSO, UM, EVEN MORE IMPORTANTLY, ALLOWS THE PUBLIC TO SEE, UM, WHAT'S HAPPENING AND HAVE THEIR FEEDBACK INCORPORATED INTO THAT DISCUSSION AS WELL. UM, SO AS, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THERE WAS A PROCESS OPEN, UM, ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE AND ALSO DISCUSSED THAT THIS COMMISSION, UM, WHERE FEEDBACK ON THE BLUEPRINT WAS BEING DONE. UM, THE, I THINK IN, IN THE LAST DISCUSSION, THERE WAS A, UM, MENTION OF THE WEBSITE AND, AND THE FEEDBACK, UM, SOLICITED FROM THE PUBLIC. AND, UM, AS I UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS, UH, JANUARY 21ST IS WHEN ALL THOSE COMMENTS ARE GONNA BE CONSOLIDATED, UM, BETWEEN STAFF AND, AND RAMEY ALL, EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM, UM, ALL, ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. AND I BELIEVE IN FEBRUARY THAT INFORMATION IS GOING TO BE COMING, UM, TO THIS COMMISSION FOR, UH, RECEIPT. SO IF YOU CAN ENJOY THE, THE WINTER BREAK AND, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, DISCUSS IT MORE IN, IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY, I BELIEVE YOU'LL, YOU'LL BE HAVING A, A MORE THOROUGH DISCUSSION ON THAT. UM, SO WITH THAT, UH, I BELIEVE THE PURPOSE OF THIS MEETING IS TO REALLY, UM, LOOK AT, UM, THE MATRICES THAT WERE PROVIDED. UM, THEY'RE ALL ON THE WEBSITE. UM, THE COMMISSIONERS WERE ASKED TO READ THROUGH THE BLUEPRINT, UM, MAKE ANY COMMENTS, ANY CHANGES, MAKE NOTES. UM, AND I THINK WHAT WHAT IS HOPING TO BE HAPPENED HERE IS, UM, GOING THROUGH, ASKING CLARIFYING QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS IF NEED BE. [00:35:01] UM, OBVIOUSLY HEARING FROM THE PUBLIC, UM, THEIR COMMENTS ON THERE. I BELIEVE THERE WERE AT LEAST TWO, UM, COMMENTS THAT WERE, UH, INCLUDED IN THE PUBLIC RECORD, UM, RECEIVED BY EMAIL PRIOR TO THE MEETING. UM, AND, AND HAVE A DISCUSSION ON, UM, WHAT NEEDS ANY CLARIFICATION, ANY FOLLOW UP, UM, SO THAT THE AD HOC CAN DO. ITS, UH, ITS TOUGH TASK OF, UM, TAKING THAT INFORMATION AND, AND TRYING TO SYNTHESIZE SOMETHING FOR THE COMMISSION TO CONSIDER AT A FUTURE MEETING. SO WITH THAT, I'LL HAPPY TO TRY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ON THIS. UM, AND, UH, APPRECIATE THE DISCUSSION TONIGHT. THANK YOU, PATRICK. UM, I THINK ONE OF THE MOST HELPFUL PAGES OF THE STAFF REPORT IS PAGE THREE, WHICH GOES OVER THE TIMELINE. I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE MOST RELEVANT AND SOMEWHAT CONFUSING AT THIS POINT. AND SO I'LL JUST LIST SOME OF THE RELEVANT DATES AND SO THAT IT'S CLEAR TO EVERYONE. SO HERE WE ARE, DECEMBER 14TH, WHERE THE CAC MEMBERS PROVIDE THEIR INDIVIDUAL FEEDBACK TO THE AD HOC. SO THAT ESSENTIALLY HAS BEEN DONE. THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE ATTACHMENTS, WHICH THE AD HOC, UM, HAS RECEIVED. I WILL SAY, PATRICK, THE, UM, THOSE ATTACHMENTS WERE PDFS AND THE SPREADSHEETS CONTAINED, AT LEAST MINE WERE FORMATTED SUCH THAT A LOT OF THE CONTENT WAS MISSING. SO I WOULD MAKE SURE THAT THE AD HOC RECEIVES THE SPREADSHEET VERSION OF THE COMMISSIONER COMMENTS, UM, AS WELL AS ANY OTHER, UM, MA MATRICES. SO ANY MATRICES RECEIVED BY THE AUC SHOULD BE IN EXCEL FORMAT. SO THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THIS MEETING TONIGHT. AND AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE OUR HIGH LEVEL COMMENTS, OUR MOST IMPORTANT COMMENTS AND HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC ON THIS TOPIC. A COUPLE OTHER IMPORTANT AND RELEVANT DATES, AND I'LL INCLUDE A COUPLE, UM, OF MY OWN HERE. SO THE FIRST JANUARY 3RD REVIEW PERIOD FOR PETALUMA CCBS CLOSES. AND SO THIS IS NOT A SUPER WELL-KNOWN ASPECT OF THE BLUEPRINT. AND CERTAINLY IF YOU SIT ON A CCB, THAT'S A COMMISSION COMMITTEE, CITY BODY, THE CCB ACRONYM. SO THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY A LITTLE BIT OF AN EXTRA DATE TO SUBMIT THEIR COMMENTS. THAT DATE IS JANUARY 3RD ACCORDING TO THIS DOCUMENT. SO, UM, AGAIN, EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM IS ALREADY PROVIDING THEIR FEEDBACK, BUT IF YOU KNOW SOMEONE ON THE TREE COMMITTEE AND THEY WANNA GET THEIR EXTRA COMMENTS IN, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA TIME TO DO THAT, UH, WITH THE IDEA THAT ON JANUARY 11TH THE AD HOC WILL BE, UH, WILL CLOSE THE REVIEW PERIOD FOR ALL OF THE BLUEPRINT COMMENTS. SO THE, THE RED LINE IS JANUARY 11TH. OKAY. AND THAT GIVES THE AD HOC SOMETIME NOT A TON OF TIME TO GET TO THE JANUARY 21ST DATE, WHICH PATRICK MENTIONED, UH, WHICH ISN'T IN THIS REPORT, BUT JANUARY 21 IS THEN WHEN THE AD HOC IS SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE THEIR COMMENTS. ANN, UM, THANKS. I ON HELLO? OKAY, SORRY. UM, TWO QUESTIONS. UM, AS YOU MENTIONED, THIS DOCUMENT IS A LITTLE CONFUSING. SO THIS SAYS THAT THE AD HOC REVIEW PERIOD CLOSES CAC DISCUSSES COMMENTS. WE WERE TOLD IN A PRIOR, UH, EMAIL THAT AD HOC, WHICH IS THE THREE OF US HERE ON OUR RIGHT, Y'ALL'S LEFT, UM, THAT WE ACTUALLY NEEDED TO FINISH OUR REVIEW BY JANUARY 3RD, OR MAYBE IT WAS FOURTH IN ORDER TO HAVE IT READY FOR STAFF REPORT FOR THE JANUARY 11TH MEETING. SO WHAT I'M SEEING IS A ZERO DAY GAP BETWEEN THE CCB COMMENT PERIOD AND WHEN WE'RE SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE OUR SYNTHESIS. SO, UH, THAT'S QUESTION NUMBER ONE. I'D LIKE CLARIFICATION ON. THE SECOND ONE IS, UM, I, YES, THANK YOU FOR ASKING FOR SPREADSHEETS IN ACTUAL SPREADSHEET FORMAT, BUT IT WOULD ALSO BE TREMENDOUSLY HELPFUL FOR US IF THOSE COULD BE MERGED INTO A SINGLE SPREADSHEET BECAUSE THAT'S NOT A TASK THAT THE THREE OF US CAN SHARE. THAT'S A, THAT'S A CLERICAL TASK THAT IS PURELY MECHANICAL, GETTING THINGS MERGED AND SORTED BY SECTION AND PAGE NUMBER. PATRICK, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT COULD BE MANAGED? UM, I WILL CHECK WITH RIHANNA ON THAT. I BELIEVE THAT I, I BELIEVE THAT YOU TALKED WITH HER ON THAT AND SHE FELT LIKE THAT SHE WAS GOING TO GIVE IT TO [00:40:01] THE COMMISSION, UM, AS IN ITS ORIGINAL FORMAT. BUT I CAN FOLLOW UP WITH HER TO SEE IF THAT THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. 'CAUSE I REALLY, I MEAN WE'RE, WE'LL SHARE THE DUTY OBVIOUSLY OF DISCUSSING SORT OF WHAT WE FEEL WILL REPRESENT A CONSENSUS OF THE COMMISSION, BUT THAT MECHANICAL TASK IS NOT SOMETHING WE CAN SHARE AND IT IS PURELY CLERICAL. SO IT'S, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE ALREADY HAVE VERY LITTLE TIME TO DO THIS AND SECONDLY, THAT WE COULD END UP IN A BIT OF A MUDDLE OVER THE MECHANICS. THANK YOU. OKAY. AND TO, TO ANSWER THE FIRST QUESTION ABOUT WHEN DO THE COMMENTS NEED TO BE DONE BY, UM, IT, I WOULD ASSUME IT IS CORRECT THAT THERE DOES NEED TO BE SOME TIME BETWEEN WHEN EVERYTHING'S DONE AND WHEN THE PACKET GETS PUBLISHED. AND THAT'S USUALLY AT LEAST A WEEK. SO I WOULD ASSUME THAT THERE IS, UM, VERY LITTLE TIME BETWEEN WHEN THE REVIEW PERIOD FOR THE CCBS CLOSES AND WHEN THE AD HOC NEEDS TO, UH, FINISH ITS DISCUSSION SO THAT THE PACKAGING GET PUBLISHED UNLESS WE'RE PRESENTING SOMETHING ON THE FLY, BUT THAT, YOU KNOW, USUALLY DOESN'T, UM, WORK THE MOST EFFICIENTLY . SO, UM, SO PARTIALLY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS, SO WHAT IS CLEAR IS AFTER JANUARY, SO JANUARY IS STILL, THERE'S SOME WORK TO BE DONE AND I HAVE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH RANNA ABOUT THIS, BUT THE FEBRUARY 8TH MEETING IS THE WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS FEEDBACK AND RECOMMEND EDITS TO THE BLUEPRINT. AND THE MARCH MEETING IS TO MOVE FORWARD AND HAVE A VOTE TO POTENTIALLY ADOPT THE MEETING. SO AGAIN, JANUARY, STILL SOME LOOSE ENDS. FEBRUARY VERY CLEAR THE PURPOSE OF THE WORKSHOP AS WELL AS MARCH. AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, A NOTE TO THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS MARCH 26TH IS THEIR OPPORTUNITY TO ADOPT THE MEETING, UH, ADOPT THE BLUEPRINT AS WELL. UM, AND IDEALLY THEY WOULD PROVIDE THEIR COMMENTS BY THE JANUARY 3RD REVIEW PERIOD. PATRICK, I WILL SAY IN SPEAKING WITH RHIANNE ABOUT THIS, SHE HAS NOT ENGAGED THE PLANNING COM PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF LIAISON. AND SO THEY MAY NOT BE AWARE OF THIS. AND SO IF THEY THINK THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE EDITS AT THE MARCH 26TH MEETING, THAT MIGHT BE A MISALIGNMENT OF EXPECTATIONS. UNDERSTOOD. WE'LL FOLLOW UP. YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION. UM, KIND OF A CALENDAR DORK, SO BEAR WITH ME. BUT IT, IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE WHY COULDN'T THE AD HOC HAVE UNTIL PRIOR TO THE FEBRUARY MEETING TO CONSOLIDATE ALL OUR COMMENTS? I MEAN, THAT SEEMS LIKE A PROPOSAL THAT'S REASONABLE. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY, UH, FORMAL ADOPTION WE NEED TO HAVE TO THAT PROPOSAL, BUT, UM, IT'S A, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S AN ENORMOUS TASK TO, I MEAN, I'LL BACK UP AND JUST SAY I WANNA THANK COOL PETALUMA FOR A REMARKABLE JOB, YOU KNOW, ORGANIZING ALL THIS FEEDBACK. WE HAVEN'T EVER HAD THIS AMOUNT OF FEEDBACK AND I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY THE FIRST LIKE ONE, A REALLY GREAT SIGN, YOU KNOW, THAT WILL BE SUCCESSFUL IN OUR ENDEAVOR 'CAUSE WE'VE DONE RIGHT AT THIS STEP. BUT FOR US TO DIGEST ALL THIS INFORMATION AND THEN TO COME UP WITH A CONCISE NUMBER OF HIGH LEVEL COMMENTS, WHICH IS WHAT THE CONSULTANTS WANT, RATHER THAN THIS LAUNDRY LIST OF EDITS, I THINK, I KNOW I COULD USE MORE THAN A DAY. WELL, AND ALSO THROUGH THE HOLIDAYS AND ET CETERA, ET CETERA. BUT, YOU KNOW, JUST HAVING TO, I MEAN, WE'RE NOT GONNA REALLY BE ABLE TO INCORPORATE IF THERE ARE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSIONS, WE WON'T EVEN BE ABLE TO INCORPORATE THAT. AND I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN, I GUESS I WOULD BE CURIOUS, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS FEEL LIKE THEY NEED US TO DO AND HOW MUCH TIME YOU WANNA REFLECT ON IT. LIKE, WOULD YOU WANT TO HAVE US PRODUCE A DRAFT OF OUR BEST EFFORT BY THE JANUARY MEETING AND THEN WE'LL HASH OVER IT AND THEN DO ANOTHER DRAFT AND COME BACK TO THE FEBRUARY MEETING? WHAT, YEAH, TWO DRAFTS? WELL, I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, UM, YOU KNOW, SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, THIS IS A BIT OF PROPOSAL HERE. I THINK THE JANUARY MEETING SHOULD BE FOCUSED PURELY ON THE CORNERSTONE ACTIONS. WHAT ARE THE CORNERSTONE ACTIONS? WHAT ACTIONS AREN'T ACTIONS ON THE TABLE? WHAT ACTIONS SHOULD BE THERE OR SHOULD BE NOT BE THERE? AND THAT'S PROBABLY THE MOST CONSEQUENTIAL ITEM OF THE BLUEPRINT, WHICH WOULD NECESSITATE VOTING. AND SO THAT WOULD BE MY PROPOSAL IS TO FOCUS THE JANUARY MEETING ON THE CORNERSTONE ACTIONS. AND [00:45:01] I, I WOULDN'T NEED TO SEE A DRAFT OF THE REST OF THE DOCUMENT FOR JANUARY. AND THAT WOULD OPEN UP THE AD HOC TIMELINE TO WHATEVER THE STAFF TIMELINE IS TO RECEIVE THE DOCUMENT, PUT IT IN FRONT OF THE, PUBLICIZE IT FOR REVIEW. SO THAT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION. COULD I OFFER A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THAT NOTION? UM, WHICH WOULD BE THAT IF WE WERE TO DO THAT, IT MAY BE VIEWED AS A PRELIMINARY STAB AT THE CORNERSTONE ACTIONS. YEAH. SINCE ONCE WE GO THROUGH MORE CONTENT, WE MIGHT HAVE SOMEWHAT DIFFERENT IDEAS ALL OF US ABOUT CORNERSTONES SO THAT, THAT NOT BE SET IN CEMENT AS OF JANUARY, BUT YEAH. YEAH, NO, I MEAN THERE'S, YOU KNOW, NO, THERE'S NO PLANNED VOTE TO OCCUR IN JANUARY. I WOULD SAY THE JANUARY AGENDA IS CURRENTLY LIGHT FOR AGENDA TOPICS OTHER THAN THIS BIG TOPIC. AND SO TO NARROW THE FOCUS AND TO ELIMINATE SOME UNNECESSARY WORK ON THE PART OF THE AD HOC THAT A FOCUS ON THE CORNERSTONE ACTIONS BE APPROPRIATE. , UH, CHAIR, I, I THINK I WOULD, UH, LIKE RIHANNA TO WEIGH IN ON THIS AND SHE'S ACTUALLY BEEN, UM, I THINK WATCHING THIS, UH, REMOTELY, BUT SHE'S HERE ON ZOOM. IF WE CAN ASK HER TO WEIGH IN, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. SHE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GIVE MORE CONTEXT THAN I CAN AT THIS POINT. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. HOW ARE YOU ALL DOING? YAY. I AM HERE AND WATCHING AND I'VE BEEN ANSWERING YOU ALL IN MY HEAD, SO I WANTED TO ZOOM IN AND SEE IF I CAN ADD SOME CLARIFICATION. UM, ONE MOMENT PLEASE. OKAY. UM, SO CITY STAFF WILL BE CONSOLIDATING COMMENTS FROM THE OR CITY STAFF AND THE CONSULTANTS. RAMEY WILL BE CONSOLIDATING COMMENTS FROM THE ONLINE FORUM, FULL PETALUMA AND ANY CCBS THAT HAVE WANTED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROCESS. WE'LL BE CONSOLIDATING THAT FEEDBACK AND PROVIDING IT TO THE AD HOC THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION AD HOC ON JANUARY 21ST. SO BETWEEN NOW AND THAT TIME PERIOD, THE AD HOC IS TO FOCUS ON THE INDIVIDUAL FEEDBACK FROM THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSIONERS. UM, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I HAD SENT AN INVITATION TO ALL STAFF LIAISONS TO EVERY SINGLE CCB AND NO, UM, NONE OF THE CCBS HAVE OPTED TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK. MM-HMM. UM, SO AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I'M NOT ANTICIPATING FEEDBACK FROM ANY OF THE CCBS, UM, OTHER THAN YOURSELF OF COURSE. UM, SO STAFF AND RAMEY WILL CONSOLIDATE ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND PROVIDE THAT TO THE AD HOC THE CAC AD HOC ON JANUARY 21ST. THE FEBRUARY 8TH MEETING IS WHEN THE HOPE IS THAT HAC AD HOC WILL COME TO THE WHOLE COMMISSION WITH A SINGULAR DOCUMENT THAT REPRESENTS BOTH THE INDIVIDUAL CAC COMMISSIONER FEEDBACK AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC FEEDBACK THAT WE ARE GONNA PROVIDE TO THEM ON JANUARY 21ST. MM-HMM, , UM, THAT WOULD BE A STUDY SESSION WHERE, UM, THE COMMISSION AS A WHOLE WILL VOTE ON WHETHER OR NOT TO MOVE THAT SINGULAR DOCUMENT FORWARD TO RAINEY AND PETALUMA STAFF THAT WILL HOLD THE, THE, THE FINAL RECOMMENDED EDIT FOR THE FINAL DRAFT OF THE BLUEPRINT. UM, RAMEY AND STAFF WILL WORK TO UPDATE THE, UH, THE, THE BLUEPRINT AND THEN WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE CAC AND WHAT WE HOPE WILL BE THE ADOPTION HEARING IN, UM, IN MARCH, MARCH 14TH. UM, AT THAT POINT, LATE MARCH, IT IS SCHEDULED TO GO TO THE, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION. I HAVE REACHED OUT AND SPOKEN WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION LIAISON. THEY DO NOT ANTICIPATE THAT IT WILL BE ON THE SCHEDULE FOR THE COMPLAINT, THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT ANY OTHER TIME OTHER THAN THAT TIME IN LATE MARCH. THAT IS, UM, OUTSIDE OF MY PURVIEW AND NOT SOMETHING THAT I HAVE CONTROL ON OF. UM, WE WILL, OR AT THIS [00:50:01] POINT, WE ARE PLANNING ON TAKING WHAT WE HOPE IS, UM, THE FINAL DOCUMENT TO CITY COUNCIL IN EITHER LATE APRIL OR EARLY MAY. I HOPE THIS PROVIDES SOME CLARIFICATION. COUNCIL MEMBER SCHIBS, UM, MAYBE IF, UH, JUST CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT 'CAUSE I'M, I'M STILL A LITTLE CONFUSED AS TO WHAT THE AD HOC IS DOING SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE, UM, IF THEY CAN TAKE OUR COMMENTS, ARE THEY TO COMPILE OURS INTO A SINGLE DOCUMENT OF COMMENTS SO THAT IT'S ALL STILL IN THE SAME MATRICES TO TURN IN? OR DO THEY ACTUALLY GO TO THE DOCUMENT AND START EDITING THE DOCUMENT WITH OUR COMMENTS? UM, WHICH IS A DIFFERENT LEVEL, IT'S A DIFFERENT THING ENTIRELY OF JUST COMPILING EDITS FOR YOU OR ACTUALLY EDITING THE DOCUMENT BASED ON OUR COMMENTS. WHICH ONE IS THAT? I'M NOT SURE. THE AD HOC IS TASKED WITH TAKING THE INDIVIDUAL COMMENTS FROM EACH COMMISSIONER AND TURNING IT INTO ONE DOCUMENT THAT REPRESENTS THE ENTIRE COMMISSION. 'CAUSE RAMEY WILL ONLY BE ACCEPTING ONE COMMENT MATRIX THAT REPRESENTS ALL OF THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION'S FEEDBACK. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE HOPEFULLY SEEING ON FEBRUARY 8TH. THE AD HOC HAS REQUESTED TO SEE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS AS WELL, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY WILL BE RECEIVING, UM, ON THE 21ST OF JANUARY. INITIALLY IT WAS THOUGHT THAT THE AD HOC WOULD ONLY BE CONSOLIDATING COMMISSIONER COMMENTS, BUT THEY REQUESTED TO SEE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS AS WELL. OKAY. THANK YOU THAT THAT CLARIFIES IT FOR ME. I'LL TAKE CARE OF YOU GUYS. YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING. NO, . SORRY. UM, SO I GUESS PART OF MY CHALLENGE IS NOT REALLY UNDERSTANDING WHAT'S INTENDED BY CONSOLIDATE, UM, BECAUSE THERE'S MULTIPLE INTERPRETATIONS HERE. ONE IS SIMPLY COMPILING, AS YOU SAY JOHN, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE ADD, YOU KNOW, YOURS TO DAVE'S, TO BEN'S TO DAN'S TO MINE, TO ANN'S TO AMY'S. THAT'S JUST A MECHANICAL TASK. UM, BUT TO ME A CONSOLIDATION MEANS BOILING DOWN, YOU KNOW, ELEVATING THE HIGHER MESSAGES. I'M NOT CLEAR, WHICH IS BEING ASKED FOR. UM, I I THINK IT WOULD BE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION THIS EVENING ABOUT SOME OF 'EM. 'CAUSE THERE COULD BE SOME THAT ARE CONFLICTING. LIKE, IT, IT IS HARD TO CONSOLIDATE SOMETHING WHEN YOU'RE GETTING TWO OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS ON IT. SO I THINK NOW WOULD BE THE TIME IF YOU'RE SEEING SOME COMMENT OUT THERE AND YOU DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S LIKE, UH, SOME INTENT BEHIND IT THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. UM, THEN YOU CAN ASK CLARIFYING QUESTIONS NOW. AND THEN AS A, AS A WHOLE, THE GROUP COULD DECIDE WHETHER THERE'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE APPENDED TO THAT OR, UM, CLARIFIED FOR MEETING. UM, SO THAT THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW. AND THEN I THINK BEYOND THAT, IT WOULD JUST BE A MATTER OF THE AD HOC PRETTY MUCH GOING THROUGH AND, AND, AND COMBINING ALL THE DIFFERENT COMMENTS AND, UM, MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S NOT, YOU KNOW, CONFLICTING OVERLAP. YEAH, I WOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, I JUMP RECOMMENDATION FOR, UM, THE, THE, THAT PROCESS. UM, SO IF WE CAN, UH, WITH STAFF TAKE THE EXCEL SPREADSHEETS THAT, THAT WE HAVE CREATED AND TURNED IN AND IF STAFF COULD THEN, UM, DO THE, THE ACTUAL COMPILING, WHICH IS JUST PUTTING THEM TOGETHER, BUT ON EACH ONE OF US HAVE OUR NAMES AS A ANOTHER COLUMN IN THERE THAT COULD BE SORTED AS WELL. AND SO, UM, THE WHOLE DOCUMENT COULD BE SORTED BY PERSON OR BY PAGE NUMBER, UM, OR BY SECTION. AND SO AT LEAST IF THE STAFF COULD COMPILE IT FOR THE AD HOC COMMITTEE SO THAT THEY WOULD HAVE AN EASIER TIME, THEN CONSOLIDATING THOSE INTO, UM, MORE CLEAR STATEMENTS, UH, THAT THEY WOULD RECOMMEND ONE OR THE OTHER OR, OR, OR RESTATE IT IN WHICHEVER THEY WANT. SO I THINK THAT WOULD MAKE IT THEIR JOB A WHOLE LOT EASIER IF IF THAT WAS DONE BY STAFF FOR THEM. IT, IT STRIKES ME THAT THE, THE MAIN TASK OF THE AD HOC IS TO, TO ACTUALLY DO THE WORK OF WORKING THROUGH THE CONFLICTING COMMENTS AND THE DIFFERENT PRIORITIES THAT PEOPLE PLACE, YOU KNOW, IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE DOCUMENT AND COMING UP WITH A COHERENT SET OF EDITS, RIGHT? SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A LOT OF DIGESTING OF A LOT OF DIFFERENT POINTS OF VIEW TO FIND OUT WHAT'S RISING TO THE TOP AS THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS, YOU KNOW, AND THEN KIND OF THEN WE HAVE TO FILTER IT THROUGH THE WAY THE DOCUMENT'S CONSTRUCTED. THE CORNERSTONE [00:55:01] ACTIONS DON'T RELATE ENTIRELY WELL TO THE ACTION PLANS IN EACH OF THE CHAPTERS. AND I THINK THAT'S A BIT OF A CHALLENGE. 'CAUSE IF IT'S MEANT TO BE AN OVERALL GUIDE, YOU KNOW, YOU'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO GO TO THE CORNERSTONE ACTIONS AND IT WOULD THEN DIRECT YOU CLEARLY IN THIS KIND OF FLOW PATH TO THE ACTION ITEMS. SO I THINK IN MY VIEW, THERE'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN THERE SO THAT IT'S A MORE EFFECTIVE, UM, BLUEPRINT FOR THE COMMUNITY. UM, SO ANYWAY, THAT STRIKES ME THAT THAT'S OUR TASK AND YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT WE WOULD DO THE BEST JOB WE CAN AND THEN GET PUBLIC FEEDBACK AND FEEDBACK FROM THE REST OF THE COMMISSION AT THE FEBRUARY MEETING AND EITHER WE, YOU KNOW, GET IT RIGHT, YOU KNOW, AND IT CAN MOVE ON, OR WE HAVE TO SPEND ANOTHER MONTH EDITING IT AND COME BACK, YOU KNOW, UM, IN WHICH CASE WE MIGHT MISS SOME OF THESE DEADLINES. BUT, UM, I DO AGREE THAT IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE IT COMPILED THOUGH IT DOESN'T STRIKE ME AS A HUGE TASK TO JUST MERGE ALL THE SPREADSHEETS, YOU KNOW, SORT 'EM. IT'S NOT THAT BIG A DEAL. NO, I'M WRONG. , DOES THAT MEAN YOU'RE VOLUNTEERING TO DO IT? I KIND OF WANNA JUST GET IT DONE, TO BE HONEST. SO YEAH, IF IT'S GOING TO SIT AROUND FOR A COUPLE WEEKS AND NOT HAPPEN, THEN YEAH, JUST DO IT. HMM. BEEN DONE. YEAH, THAT'S PROBABLY TRUE. ANYWAY. DOES THAT, DOES THAT, I MEAN, ARE WE ALL IN, DOES THAT KIND OF SOUND LIKE THE JOB DESCRIPTION? I, I APPRECIATE THE SPIRITED PROCEDURAL DISCUSSION. , I WILL SAY, UH, I DO THINK THE AD HOC IS EMPOWERED WITH THE RED PEN TO MAKE EDITS TO THE DOCUMENTS SOMEWHAT IN CONJUNCTION WITH EY. AND THAT, UM, IS SOMEWHAT OF A DISCUSSION THE AD HOC SHOULD HAVE WITH THE CONSULTANT IN TERMS OF WHAT IS APPROPRIATE. AND I THINK THE REST OF THE COMMISSION HAS SOMEWHAT SEEDED OUR AUTHORITY TO MAKE EDITS TO THE AD HOC. AND SO IT IS APPROPRIATE FOR US IF WE HAVE A PARTICULAR COMMENT OR VIEWPOINT OR EDIT THAT WE WANT TO MAKE, NOW WOULD BE THE TIME TO DO THAT, TO HIGHLIGHT THE, YOU KNOW, MUST HAVE EDITS THAT WE HAVE PROVIDED, YOU KNOW, BUT I CERTAINLY, IF THERE WAS A COMMENT THAT I MADE THAT DIDN'T MAKE IT INTO THE FINAL DRAFT, THEN, YOU KNOW, I WAS NOT ON THE AD HOC. SO, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE THE, UH, THE IMMENSE TASK OF THE AD HOC IN COMPILING A THOUSAND COMMENTS AND SOLVING CLIMATE CHANGE IN THE NEXT 60 DAYS. UM, THAT BEING SAID, I I DO THINK A ROBUST CONVERSATION ON THE CORNERSTONE ACTIONS IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE NEXT MEETING, RECOGNIZING, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT IS MAYBE WHERE SOME OF THE MORE DIFFICULT DECISIONS MIGHT BE MADE. DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY SORT OF PROCESS RELATED COMMENT OR QUESTION? UM, I HAVE A QUESTION. I, IS THIS STILL WORKING? IT IS. LOOK, LOOK MA NO HANDS, UM, , SORRY, THIS CABLE DOESN'T WANNA COME ANY CLOSER. UM, I GUESS I JUST LIKE, UH, YES, YOU'VE SORT OF GIVEN US CARTE BLANCHE TO EDIT, UM, BUT I THINK I'D LIKE A MORE GENERAL RESPONSE IS THE TASK, AS ANN DESCRIBED IT, DOES THAT WORK FOR EVERYBODY? I, IT MADE GREAT SENSE TO ME. SO AMY NODDING. YEAH. OKAY, GREAT. THAT'S HELPFUL. THANK YOU. SO IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S NOT MERELY COMPILING, IT IS EXERCISING SOME JUDGMENT AND DISCERNMENT THERE. OKAY, AWESOME. AND, UM, I LIKE THE IDEA OF, OF GOING OVER THE CORNERSTONE ACTIONS NEXT, UM, NEXT MEETING. THAT MAKES SENSE. AND, UM, AND MAYBE WE TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF, KIND OF TO, TO DEB'S POINT, THE SILOING, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THINK ABOUT THAT, UM, QUESTION AS WE DO THAT. OKAY. UM, GREAT. I GUESS I'LL MAKE A, A FINAL, UH, SORT OF PROCESS RELATED QUESTION HERE. THIS, UM, IS SOMEWHAT CAPTURED IN THE BLUEPRINT, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAKE IS THAT THERE'S SORT OF A TWO PART OBJECTIVE OF THE BLUEPRINT. THE FIRST POINT IS TO INDEED SOLVE THE CLIMATE CRISIS BY MITIGATING OUR EMISSIONS. UH, BUT THE SECOND, PERHAPS MORE RELEVANT PROCEDURAL ASPECT IS THAT THIS IS A NECESSARY DOCUMENT WITHIN THE GENERAL PLAN SUCH THAT THE, UM, THE CA ASPECTS OF THE GENERAL PLAN ARE DEEMED VALID [01:00:01] ACCORDING TO THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. AND SO THIS DOCUMENT AS ONCE APPROVED, MEANS THAT A LOT OF THE OTHER ASPECTS OF THE GENERAL PLAN DO NOT NEED TO GO THROUGH A SQA PROCESS BECAUSE THE CLIMATE IMPACTS OF THE GENERAL PLAN ARE MITIGATED THROUGH THIS EFFORT. AND SO THAT IS WHY THE TIMELINE IS, IS WHAT IT IS BECAUSE THE TIMELINE IS RELATED TO THE GENERAL PLAN TIMELINE, OKAY? AND SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT CONTEXT IS THAT THIS IS A CHAPTER WITHIN THE GENERAL PLAN INTENDED TO MEET SOME OF THE CAL STATE OF CALIFORNIA REQUIREMENTS FOR SQA RELATED TO, UH, GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS, UH, THROUGH DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES RELATED TO OUR GENERAL PLAN. A COUPLE OTHER, UH, COMMENTS AND FEEDBACK THAT WERE PROVIDED BY THE PUBLIC, UH, AT THE, BOTH THE LAST MEETING AND IN THE WRITTEN COMMENTS WERE SOME OF THE MISSING ELEMENTS LIKE ADAPTATION, RESILIENCE, SOME OF THOSE OTHER THINGS. AND SO, UM, THOSE ARE OTHER SECTIONS IN THE GENERAL PLAN. THOSE ARE NOT SECTIONS IN THE BLUEPRINT. OKAY? AND SO THE COMMENTS ABOUT WHERE IS THE CHAPTER ON DEALING WITH SEA LEVEL RISE AND FLOODING, YOU KNOW, THOSE IMPORTANT TOPICS ARE GENERAL PLAN TOPICS. THOSE ARE NOT BLUEPRINT TOPICS. IT'S AN OPEN QUESTION, WHETHER THEY ARE CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION TOPICS. I CERTAINLY, IF I HAD MY DRUTHERS WOULD BRING THEM BEFORE THIS BODY. THAT BEING SAID, THOSE ARE TOPICS IN THE GENERAL PLAN AND NOT TOPICS FOR THIS DOCUMENT. AND SO THAT SOMEWHAT RELIEVES SOME OF THE WORK OF THE AD HOC IS, YOU KNOW, HEY, WHERE'S THE SECTION ON C LEVEL RISE? IT'S NOT INTENDED TO BE IN THIS DOCUMENT. THERE IS, I BELIEVE IT'S THE HAZARD MITIGATION SECTION OF THE GENERAL PLAN. AND SO I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE GPAC PROCESS AS WELL AS THE SUBCOMMITTEES OF GPAC WHERE THAT IMPORTANT WORK WILL BE DONE. UH, THAT IMPORTANT WORK IS NOT, UH, PART OF THIS BLUEPRINT. SO I WANNA MAKE THAT CLEAR. THAT WAS NOT ENTIRELY CLEAR, UM, UNTIL READING SOME OF THIS DOCUMENT. OKAY. UM, I GUESS I, I THINK BEFORE THE, UM, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A FULL AUDIENCE HERE, I THINK I WILL TAKE THE, UH, LIBERTY OF ALLOWING PUBLIC COMMENTERS TO PROVIDE THEIR COMMENTS PRIOR TO COMMISSIONER COMMENTS. I THINK, UH, THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE. AND, UH, AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS, THEN WE CAN PROVIDE OUR COMMISSIONER COMMENTS. AGAIN, THOSE ARE HIGH LEVEL COMMENTS, IMPORTANT COMMENTS RELATED TO THE SUBMISSIONS THAT WE'VE MADE. SO I WILL READ THE OFFICIAL PROMPT, AND IF YOU ARE PLANNING ON PROVIDING COMMENTS ON THE BLUEPRINT, NOW WOULD BE THE TIME TO GET IN YOUR COMMENT CARD. THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM. PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON. IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY DONE SO, PLEASE FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD AND BRING IT TO THE CLERK. SHELLY, I WILL SAY BEFORE, UM, I ASK THE FIRST PERSON TO GET UP AND SPEAK. I KNOW WE HAVE A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMITER. IF WE COULD GIVE FOLKS AN EXTRA 30 SECONDS OR A MINUTE AND NOT CUT THEM OFF AFTER THREE MINUTES, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE, THAT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE. OKAY. THE FIRST SPEAKER CARD I HAVE IS FOR ANDY SCHRADER, REPRESENTING CLIMATE ACTION PETALUMA. WE SWITCH ORDER, WE ASK TO SWITCH ORDER TO SEQUENTIALLY. THE FIRST SPEAKER IS TRAHAN HECKMAN OF CLIMATE ACTION, PETALUMA. AND THEN DO WE HAVE A LITTLE MORE, SORRY, DO WE HAVE A LITTLE MORE THAN THREE MINUTES AS A WHOLE FOR 'CAUSE IT'S JUST ANDY AND I. OKAY, THANKS. GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS TRAHAN HECKMAN. I'M WITH DAILY ACTS AND CLIMATE ACTION PETALUMA. AND, UH, SINCE A LOT OF FOLKS, THE COMMISSIONERS AND AUDIENCE MEMBERS COME INTO THIS CLIMATE WORK IN PETALUMA AT DIFFERENT TIMES, AND YOU ALL ARE FOCUSED ON ONE OR FIVE AMAZING THINGS, IT'S SOMETIMES [01:05:01] EASY TO LOSE TRACK OF THE BIGGER STREAM OF EFFORT THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR REALLY INCREDIBLE EFFORT THE LAST FOUR AND A HALF YEARS IN THE CITY. AND SO, CLIMATE ACTION, PETA JUST WANNA START OUT WITH A, A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT AND SOME REMINDERS ON WHAT HAS BROUGHT US TO THIS POINT. AND SO, UM, BECAUSE WHEN WE HIGHLIGHT WHAT'S WORKING, WE COULD BUILD MORE OF IT. SO FOUR AND A HALF YEARS AGO, CLIMATE ACTION PETALUMA WAS FOUNDED TO DRAW ATTENTION TO THE CLIMATE EMERGENCY AND TO ASK THE CITY TO DECLARE CLIMATE EMERGENCY AND TO FORM WHAT IS THIS BODY, THE CLIMATE COMMISSION, AS WELL AS TO TAKE ACTION. IT WAS FOUNDED BY MEMBERS OF THREE 50 PETALUMA DAILY ACTS, URBAN CHAT WORK, PETALUMA, THE PEAK GANG GROUP OF ONE THAT FEELS LIKE MANY. UM, AND THEN THROUGH TIME, LIKE NORTH BAY ORGANIZING PROJECT CAME IN, FOLKS FROM LUNCH AT, UM, ECOLOGICAL DESIGNER, DESIGNER OF VERONICA OLSSON AND EDM STER. WE'VE HAD A RANGE OF FOLKS AND THIS GROUP REALLY WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE CITY TO CREATE THE CLIMATE EMERGENCY RESOLUTION AND TO GET THE CITY TO DO THE FIRST EVER PUBLIC INTERVIEW PROCESS IN THIS ROOM WHEN THE COMMISSION WAS CREATED. AND I KNOW ANN WAS HERE BECAUSE SHE, SHE'S BEEN ON THE COMMISSION SINCE THEN, BUT WE HAD A RECORD NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS FOR A COMMISSION, 28 TO 30 PEOPLE. AND THAT WAS BECAUSE THE CITY REALLY WORKED WITH THE COMMUNITY IN A DIFFERENT SORT OF WAY. AND AS THIS WAS STARTING, YOU HAD A LOT OF REALLY GOOD STRONG COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAT WAS TAKEN A VERY MUCH, WE ARE IN THIS TOGETHER APPROACH VERSUS POINTING FINGERS. AND WE HAD AN ENGAGED CITY COUNCIL THAT WAS WILLING TO STEP UP AND WE HAD AN INCREDIBLE STAFF THAT WAS LED BY AN AWESOME NEW CITY MANAGER, PEGGY, THAT STARTED AT THE TIME. AND SO THIS TRIFECTA OF ENGAGED COMMUNITY, ACTIVE, ENGAGED, COUNCIL APPOINTED AND ELECTED MEMBERS, UM, ALL TAKING ACTION TOGETHER HAS BEEN ABLE TO, UH, ENABLED A LOT OF AMAZING THINGS TO HAPPEN. I THINK, AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, THE CLIMATE EMERGENCY FRAMEWORK, THE NEXT YEAR IN 2020, RIGHT WHEN COVID HIT WAS WRITTEN, UM, IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COMMISSION, ABOUT TWO DOZEN COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND SOME OF THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT STARTED CLIMATE ACTION PETALUMA WROTE THIS 50 PAGE DOCUMENT TOGETHER, HEAVILY DRIVEN BY COMMUNITY INFLUENCE. THIS, UM, EVENTUALLY LED TO, UH, NEW FOLKS RUNNING FOR CITY COUNCIL AND SHIFTING OUR MAJORITY NEW FOLKS RUNNING FOR COMMISSIONS. IT LED TO FOUNDING PETALUMA EQUITABLE CLIMATE ACTION COALITION RELIEF. COOL PETALUMA THAT WE HEARD FROM DEB SAFE STREETS, UM, LED TO VERONICA AND A TEAM OF PEOPLE WINNING THE SUSTAINABLE DESIGN CHALLENGE. JUST A PHENOMENAL ARRAY OF CIVIC ENGAGEMENT AND NEW ORGANIZATIONS AND COALITIONS STARTING AND STEPPING UP, UM, HIRING OUR FABULOUS NEW, UM, CLIMATE MANAGER. SO PATRICK AND TEAM COULD GET SOME HELP ALL IN THAT AND MANY MORE THINGS. AND SO JUST WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, BRING THIS BACK TO, THIS WAS ALL ROOTED IN COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, WORKING WITH THE CITY AND THE ORIGINAL CLIMATE FRAMEWORK. IT REALLY STATES THE CRITICAL ROLE THAT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT NEEDS TO PLAY IN ACTUALLY SOLVING, YOU KNOW, WORKING ON THE CLIMATE CRISIS. UM, AND SO WE JUST WANTED TO KIND OF GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF THAT BACKGROUND AND CONTEXT AND THEN TO ALSO SAY KINDA LIKE WHAT DEB TOUCHED ON. SO, CLIMATE ACTION PETALUMA MEMBERS ORGANIZE ABOUT 50 EXPERT VOLUNTEERS LOCALLY, ALL THE WAY UP TO STATE LEVEL EXPERTS. AND THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF OF THE 357 COMMENTS YOU HAVE CAME FROM, WHICH WE COLLATED INTO A 15 TO PAGE DOCUMENT, UM, WHICH WOULD SAY CORNERSTONE ACTIONS ARE IMPORTANT. THERE'S ALSO A BIG IDEAS BUCKET, WHICH DOESN'T ALWAYS FIT IN CORNERSTONE ACTION. SO I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING, OR THREE AND A HALF. CLIMATE ACTION PETALUMA THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING, UM, TO LOOK AT. AND THEN, UM, JUST WANTED TO NOTE IN PARTICULAR, ONE ESSENTIAL THING IS THAT, UM, AS I MENTIONED, THE FRAMEWORK REALLY CALLS OUT THE IMPORTANCE OF CIVIC ENGAGEMENT AND COMMUNITY OWNERSHIP. AND THERE'S NO SECTION FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IN THE BLUEPRINT YET. IT'S ESSENTIAL TO THE SUCCESS. SO WE WANNA REALLY UNDERLINE, UH, THE REQUEST TO CREATE AN EIGHTH STANDALONE SECTION THAT'S ON COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND EMPOWERMENT. UM, AND THERE'S SOME DRAFTED IDEAS THAT WERE SUBMITTED TO YOU, UM, AND ABOUT HOW WAYS TO GO ABOUT THAT. SO I THINK, UM, THAT'S IT FOR ME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK AS COMMISSIONERS AND AS COUNCIL MEMBERS AND AS STAFF. AND ANDY'S GONNA SHARE A FEW WORDS NOW TOO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE NEXT SPEAKER CARD I HAVE IS FOR ANDY SCHRADER. HI COMMISSIONERS. UH, I'M NOT QUITE AS RECOGNIZABLE AS THE LAST GUY. UH, I'M ANDY SCHRADER. I'M THE FORMER HEAD OF, UH, COOL LOS ANGELES NOW LIVING HERE. UH, I AM ALSO THE VICE PRESIDENT OF DAILY ACTS BOARD AND A SENIOR ADVISOR FOR COOL PETALUMA, AND MOST GERMANE TO TODAY, THE FATHER OF TWO SMALL CHILDREN. CLIMATE ACTION PETALUMA HAS PROPOSED A NEW PROLOGUE TO THE BLUEPRINT, AND I'D LIKE TO READ IT INTO THE RECORD. THE CHILDREN NOW THRIVING IN PETALUMA WILL [01:10:01] BE IN THEIR EIGHTIES AND NINETIES WHEN THE YEAR 2100 ARRIVES. IF WE AS A SOCIETY ARE ABLE TO MOBILIZE GLOBALLY AND TURN AROUND THE BREAKDOWN OF OUR PLANETARY CLIMATE, THEY COULD CONCEIVABLY CONTINUE TO THRIVE THROUGHOUT THEIR LIFETIMES TO AVOID IRREVERSIBLE ECOLOGICAL TIPPING POINTS. HOWEVER, THE WORLD'S CLIMATE SCIENTISTS TELL US WE MUST ACHIEVE BEFORE 2030 WHAT HUMANITY IS OFFICIALLY TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH BY 2050. THIS IS A DIRE EMERGENCY. UNFORTUNATELY, GLOBAL CLIMATE CONFERENCES HAVE THUS FAR FAILED MISERABLY TO ACHIEVE THE BINDING AGREEMENTS. TO MEET THIS GOAL, THE WORLD CLEARLY NEEDS CLIMATE LEADERSHIP TO ARISE AND PROLIFERATE EVERYWHERE AT ALL LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT AND IN ALL CORNERS OF SOCIETY. WE SHOULD NOT UNDERESTIMATE THE ROLE CITIES AND NEIGHBORHOODS CAN PLAY. WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO ACHIEVE BIG THINGS AND INSPIRE, INSPIRE MULTIPLE RIPPLE EFFECTS. HAVING STAKED OUT ITS POSITION AS A LEADER IN CALIFORNIA, AND I'M HERE TO, AS PROOF OF THAT, PETALUMA IS UNIQUE, UNIQUELY POISED TO PROVIDE EVEN MORE INFLUENTIAL LEADERSHIP AS A SMALL AGRICULTURAL CITY. BRIDGING THE GAP BETWEEN BRIDGING THE GAP ACROSS THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM, WHICH IT INNOVATIVE HYPER-LOCAL AND COMMUNITY-BASED APPROACHES TO REDUCING CLIMATE EMISSIONS. PETALUMA CAN MODEL BEST CLIMATE PRACTICES FOR SMALL CITIES ACROSS THE UNITED STATES. IT'S REPUTATION FOR PROGRESSIVE CLIMATE ACTION HAS ALREADY ATTRACTED THE ATTENTION OF MANY MUNICIPALITIES AND ORGANIZATIONS HOPING TO REPLICATE PETALUMA'S EXEMPLARY INITIATIVES. THE BLUEPRINT FOR CARBON NEUTRALITY CAN HELP US MEET THESE CHALLENGES HEAD ON THE THROUGH, THROUGH INTENSIVE LOCAL SCRUTINY, PETALUMA'S CL CLIMATE LEADERS HAVE STEPPED UP TO STRENGTHEN THE DOCUMENT EVEN INTO AN EVEN MORE EFFECTIVE CLIMATE ACTION IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. THROUGH RICH COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, WE HOPE TO GROW IT INTO THE TRANSFORMATIVE FORWARD-LOOKING ROADMAP REQUIRED FOR LOCAL, STATE, AND NATIONAL CLIMATE SUCCESS. THERE'S NO TIME FOR HALF MEASURES, AND HERE'S WHY. SINCE THE PRE-INDUSTRIAL ERA, THE GLOBAL AVERAGE SURFACE TEMPERATURE HAS INCREASED BY, AS OF NOVEMBER 17TH, 2023 HAS INCREASED BY TWO DEGREES FAHRENHEIT SINCE 1981. WE HAVE SEEN A WARMING RATE THAT IS RISING MORE THAN TWICE AS FAST THAN THAT. THE WORLD IS EXPERIENCING DEVASTATING CLIMATE DESTRUCTION, AND EVEN WORSE IMPACTS ARE BAKED INTO THE SYSTEM. THE TUBS FIRE, THE CAMPFIRE, YEARS OF DROUGHT, UNEXPECTED EXTREME HEAT EVENTS, AND MOST RECENTLY, A RECORD BREAK BREAKING JUST THIS YEAR ALONE IN CALIFORNIA 31 ATMOSPHERIC RIVER RIVERS, IN JUST A FEW SHORT MONTHS HAVE ALL SHOWN US ONLY A PREVIEW OF WHAT IS TO COME AND HOW OUR DAILY LIVES WILL BE IMPACTED BY THE CONTINUING OUT OF CONTROL BREAKDOWN OF OUR CLIMATE. NOW, ONLY THE BOLDEST, MOST AGGRESSIVE PATH FORWARD HAS ANY POSSIBILITY OF PROTECTING, OF PROTECTING A HABITABLE PLANET WE WOULD REMOTELY RECOGNIZE IN THE NEXT CENTURY. WITH ALL OF THIS ON THE LINE, IT'S TRULY PETALUMA'S TIME TO SHINE. THREE YEARS AGO, A GOAL OF CARBON NEUTRALITY BY 2030 SEEMED APPROPRIATELY AGGRESSIVE. HOWEVER, AT THAT TIME, PETALUMA WAS NOT CONSIDERING THE POTENTIAL HIGHLIGHTED. THANK YOU. YOU HAVE MY TIME. THANK YOU. HOWEVER, AT THAT TIME, PETALUMA WAS NOT CONSIDERING THE POTENTIAL HIGHLIGHTED IN THE REGIONAL CLIMATE PROTECTION AUTHORITIES OWN CLIMATE PLAN, WHICH CALLS FOR SEQUESTERING 20% OF ITS CLIMATE EMISSIONS THROUGH AGGRESSIVE WORK TO CREATE AND ENHANCE HEALTHY, PRODUCTIVE SOILS. THAT POTENTIAL SUGGESTS THAT PETALUMA SHOULD AIM TO BE CARBON NEGATIVE BY 2030. THAT IS BY 2030, THE CITY COULD BE DRAWING DOWN MORE CLIMATE EMISSIONS THAN IT EMITS. IT WOULD NOT ONLY BE HALTING ITS CONTRIBUTIONS TO GLOBAL CLIMATE EMISSIONS, BUT IT WOULD ALSO BEGIN TO DRAW DOWN ITS HISTORICAL CONTRIBUTIONS AND THEREBY INSPIRE OTHERS TO FOLLOW SUIT. IN SHORT, OUR GOAL IS TO SHOW THAT IF PETALUMA CAN EFFECTIVELY THRIVE WHILE IN EMERGENCY MODE AND ACHIEVE ITS CLIMATE GOALS, ANY CITY CAN DO IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THE NEXT SPEAKER I HAVE IS ANNIE STEWART. HI, ANNIE STEWART WITH CLIMATE ACTION PETALUMA AND THREE 50 PETALUMA. I, I'LL BE VERY BRIEF. I JUST WANT TO SIMPLY REINFORCE ONE POINT OF MANY IN THE 20 PAGE DOCUMENT THAT WE SENT TO YOU, AND THAT IT'S THIS, LET'S NOT ONLY FOCUS [01:15:01] ON LOW, LOW HANGING FRUIT OR CLIMATE ACTIONS THAT HAVE THE BIGGEST BANG FOR THE BUCK IN TERMS OF CUTTING OR DRAWING DOWN GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS, ALTHOUGH THOSE ARE INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT. LET'S ALSO BE SURE TO IDENTIFY AND PRIORITIZE THOSE CLIMATE ACTIONS THAT HAVE MANY CO-BENEFITS. BY DOING SO, WE SELL, WE WILL SOLVE SEVERAL PROBLEMS AT THE SAME TIME AND HELP MOTIVATE THE COMMUNITY TO SUPPORT OUR EFFORTS. I'LL GIVE JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF AN ACTION WITH MANY CO-BENEFITS. AND THERE, THERE'S SEVERAL IN THE DOCUMENT THAT ALREADY EXISTS AND, AND THAT WE'VE PROPOSED. ONE IS THE ELIMINATION OF ARTIFICIAL TURF. NOT ONLY WOULD THIS REDUCE THE SOURCE OF PLASTIC POLLUTION MADE OF FOSSIL FUELS, BUT IT WOULD ALLOW OUR NATURAL ENVIRONMENT TO DRAW DOWN CARBON, HELP CLEAR UP OUR WATERWAYS, LESSEN THE STRESS ON OVERFLOWING LANDFILLS, AND DECREASE A WHOLE HOST OF HEALTH RELATED PROBLEMS SUCH AS SKIN BURNS, HEAT STRESS, BREATHING PROBLEMS, INJURIES, AND PFAS RELATED ILLNESSES. THAT'S A LOT OF CO-BENEFITS IN MY MIND. IT'S A NO-BRAINER, AND I THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF ACTIONS LIKE THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I HAVE, UM, FOUR MORE SPEAKER CARDS. THE NEXT SPEAKER IS NICOLE KATA, FOLLOWED BY TARAN O BAIN. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME'S NICOLE KATA. UM, I AM ALSO THE CURRENT CHAIR OF THE, UM, PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. UM, AND I DO JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, UM, I WOULD LOVE TO BE CORRECTED, BUT WE WERE NOT INFORMED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY FOR CCBS TO HAVE FEEDBACK. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS, UM, A DECISION MADE WITH STAFF AND IT WASN'T BROUGHT BEFORE US, BUT IT, IT, I I THINK PERSONALLY WOULD LOVE TO HAVE SOME, UM, OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE FEEDBACK A AROUND TRANSIT AND LAND USE. UM, AND ALSO PROCESS-WISE. I, UM, I'M MARRIED TO BEN PETERS. I TALK TO HIM A LOT. AND I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE BLUEPRINT UNTIL A COUPLE DAYS BEFORE. UH, WE WERE TO GIVE FEEDBACK BEFORE THE CLIMATE COMMISSION MEETING, AND MAYBE I WASN'T PAYING ATTENTION, BUT I'M JUST A LITTLE BIT DISAPPOINTED THAT THERE WASN'T MORE LIKE INVOLVEMENT OR THAT I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW, LIKE THE PROCESS CAME ABOUT AND HOW THIS WAS WRITTEN. UM, AND I WANNA JUST GIVE A HUGE THANK YOU TO COOL PETALUMA AND CLIMATE ACTION PETALUMA AND ANN STEWART FOR, FOR THE AMAZING, UM, FEEDBACK THAT YOU GAVE. AND IT'S ALSO HELPFUL TO ME, UM, TO THINK THROUGH THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN. I'LL SUBMIT MY COMMENTS, UM, ONLINE. BUT A COUPLE THINGS I WANNA EMPHASIZE ARE, UM, THAT I HAVE A BIG CONCERN THAT THE, THE DOCUMENT AS A WHOLE DOESN'T REALLY PROMOTE BEHAVIOR CHANGE. UM, THERE'S A LOT OF EMPHASIS ON HELPING PEOPLE GET ENROLL INTO PROGRAMS. UM, AND DO YOU KNOW, ELECTRIFICATION AND SONOMA KILLING POWER AND DECARB. BUT, UM, I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO THINK ABOUT LIKE THE LAND USE VISION. UM, AND REALLY WHAT, WHAT ARE THE, THE POLICY LIKE, UM, IMPLEMENTATIONS THAT ARE GONNA AFFECT BEHAVIOR CHANGE SINCE WE CAN'T DEMAND BEHAVIOR CHANGE. UM, AND THEN ANOTHER THING THAT IS, UM, CONCERNING TO ME, COOL PETALUMA, I LOVE YOU SO MUCH, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT COOL PETALUMA SHOULD BE NAMED IN HERE AS HEAVILY AS THEY ARE. I THINK THE CITY'S BECOME MUCH TOO RELIANT ON COOL PETALUMA DOING THEIR WORK, IN WHICH CASE, UH, MAYBE WE SHOULD GET RECONSIDER COOL PETALUMA BECOMING CITY STAFF OR PART OF THE, THE CLIMATE TEAM. UM, AND, AND THEN OVERALL, I THINK THAT THE TIMELINES NEED TO BE MOVED UP DRASTICALLY. UM, UM, THERE'S, WITH REGARDS TO LOW HANGING FRUIT, LIKE HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT PARKING AND IMPLEMENTING A PARKING PROGRAM, WE CAN DO THAT BEFORE 2026. SO I, UM, OH, AND IN 14 SECONDS I NEED TO TELL YOU THAT THERE'S BEEN CLEAR CUTTING OF TREES, INCLUDING NATIVE TREES ON 23 TO 27 BURGER LANE PERMITS WILL NOT BE SHOWN. AND, UM, WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE UPDATED TREE COMMITTEE, UH, LIST OF TREES. THANK YOU. THE NEXT COMMENT CARD I HAVE IS FOR TARAN OBEY. HI, MY NAME IS TARAN OBEYED. I [01:20:01] AM ON OUR TREE COMMITTEE. AND, UM, I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT WE NOT ONLY, WERE NOT INVITED, UM, BUT WE WERE PRECLUDED FROM DISCUSSING IT BECAUSE IT WOULD BE IN VIOLATION OF THE BROWN ACT. I WENT BACK AND I LOOKED, AND I THINK THAT A LOT OF US ACTUALLY ARE NOT INCLUDED WHEN YOU REFER TO REFER TO CCBS. THAT'S THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THE CCBS THAT ARE ASKED BY STAFF. ACCORDING TO OUR 20, UH, 1991 ORDINANCE THAT SET UP THE TREE COMMITTEE AND THE 2010 UPDATE TO THE ORDINANCE, WE ABSOLUTELY CANNOT GIVE YOU OUR INPUT, OUR FEEDBACK ON THIS BLUEPRINT, UNLESS YOU ASK US TO, UNLESS A COMMISSION SUCH AS THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION MOVES, MAKES A MOTION FOR IT TO COME BEFORE THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. WE CANNOT TALK TO YOU, UM, AS A COMMITTEE ABOUT IT. AND I'D LIKE TO PLEASE ASK FOR YOU TO DO THAT TONIGHT. WE HAVE SOIL EXPERTS. WE KNOW HOW TO CALCULATE SEQUESTRATION VALUE OF TREES, OF VEG, VEGETATION, EXCUSE ME. AND WE HAVE EXPERTS THAT KNOW THE LEADING SCIENCE ON SOIL HEALTH CALCULATION AND, UM, ASSESSMENT, UH, PROTOCOLS AND METHODOLOGIES AND SOIL QUALITY IS TURNING OUT TO BE A HUGE FACTOR IN CARBON SEQUESTRATION. SO, UM, PLEASE MAKE A MOTION TONIGHT TO BRING IT FORWARD TO US. UM, WE'RE, WE'VE MAXED OUT ON THE BROWN ACT. WE CANNOT TALK ABOUT IT, UM, WITH THE EXPERTS NOW 'CAUSE WE'VE ALREADY HIT THREE, NOT ALL OF THE EXPERTS. OKAY? SO IN THE SPIRIT OF ARTIFICIAL TURF, IF THIS IS A, UM, PART OF THE GENERAL PLAN AND ARTIFICIAL TURF IS ALLOWED ON ATHLETIC FIELDS, I BELIEVE THAT THAT MEANS THAT WE CANNOT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE NEW CALIFORNIA LAWS SIGNED BY THE GOVERNOR THAT CALIFORNIA CITIES CAN NOW BAN FOREVER CHEMICAL MICROPLASTIC, UM, POLLUTING, DISINTEGRATING ARTIFICIAL TURF. UM, I JUST SWEPT UP A PILE OVER ON ONE OF OUR ARTIFICIAL TURFS. UM, IT'S OKAY. AND THEN, PLEASE KNOW, WETLAND OR CARBON TRADING IN EITHER DIRECTION, THIS TRANSFERRING OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR BACKYARD OR WHAT'S GOING ON IN OTHER COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE UNITED STATES OR THE WORLD'S BACKYARDS TO WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. IT'S JUST A BIG SHELL GAME. AND I REALLY THINK THAT WE CAN DO BETTER THAN CONTINUING TO, LIKE AT RIVERBEND DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW, INJECTED CONCRETE INTO THE WETLAND AT THE VERY END OF THE FLOOD WALL IN A FLOOD ZONE THAT IS AN UNDERGROUND RESERVOIR THAT HELPS PROTECT THE PEOPLE IN THAT LOW INCOME NEIGHBORHOOD ADJACENT TO THE FLOOD WALL. PLEASE DON'T ALLOW IT ANYMORE. UM, LET'S SEE HERE. SO, UM, PLEASE CONSIDER CALCULATING THE CARBON SEQUESTRATION, UM, EXCUSE ME, EMISSIONS VALUE OF A PRODUCT THAT'S, UM, FROM ITS RAW MATERIALS IN CHINA, IN SOUTH KOREA, WHEREVER THE, UM, REFINEMENT OF THE RAW MATERIALS, THE SHIPPING THERE, THE MANUFACTURING, THE SHIPPING OVER HERE, AND THEN BRING IT ALL OVER TO HOME GOODS, RIGHT? BECAUSE THEY SHOULD RENAME THAT PLACE LANDFILL. UM, AND, UH, AND THEN THE SHIPPING, AND THEN THE LANDFILL AT THE END. I MEAN, THERE'S MORE TO CARBON THAN JUST WHETHER OUR NEW $60,000 EVS ARE PUTTING OUT PARTICULATE MATTER EMISSIONS. YOUR TIME IS UP. THANK YOU. PLEASE MOVE TO HAVE IT COME BEFORE THE TREE COMMITTEE. WE REALLY WANNA HELP. THANK YOU. THE NEXT SPEAKER I HAVE IS BRENT NEWELL. UH, GOOD EVENING, UH, CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. UM, I'M BRENT NEWELL. I'M AN ATTORNEY. I'M NOT REPRESENTING ANYONE HERE TONIGHT, JUST MYSELF. UM, I'M ON THE GPAC, UH, AND, UH, REALLY APPRECIATED READING THE BLUEPRINT AND PROVIDING FEEDBACK. UM, UH, I'M GONNA RESERVE LIKE MY SUBSTANTIVE COMMENTS TO FUTURE MEETINGS, BUT I DID WANT TO ASK FOR SOME CLARIFICATION. I HEARD CITY STAFF SAY THAT NO FEEDBACK WAS RECEIVED FROM ANY CCBS AS THE GPAC A CCB BECAUSE WE PROVIDED COMMENTS ON IT, SHARON, KIRK, AND I DID. SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY WHETHER THE GPAC IS CONSIDERED A CCB AND WHETHER YOU ARE INDEED FORWARDING OUR COMMENTS TO THE AD HOC, I'D SUGGEST YOU MAKE YOUR COMMENTS AND THEN WE CAN RESPOND AT, AFTER EVERYBODY'S MADE THEIR COMMENTS. WHAT, PLEASE MAKE ALL YOUR COMMENTS AND WE CAN RESPOND AT THE END. THIS ISN'T THE BACK AND FORTH RIGHT NOW THAT, THAT IS THE END OF MY COMMENTS. [01:25:06] UH, THE ONLY THING I CAN SAY IS THAT WE ARE ENTRUSTING THE AD HOC WITH THE ALMIGHTY POWER OF EDITING THE DOCUMENT. AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE YOUR COMMENTS TO GO TO THEM, I SUGGEST YOU TALK WITH THEM ABOUT THOSE COMMENTS. BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR COMMENTS FROM THE GPAC. THANK YOU. THE NEXT SPEAKER CARD I HAVE IS FOR DWAYNE BELLINGER. DWAYNE INGER HERE, QUICKLY, , UM, I, I ENJOYED SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WERE WRITTEN BY MEMBERS HERE, AND I, I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE GOOD WORK YOU'VE DONE. I ESPECIALLY LIKED, UH, THE COMMENT THAT SOMEBODY WROTE IN THAT THIS IS A DIRE OF URGENCY, CLIMATE CATASTROPHE. AND I, I ENJOYED, UH, SOMEBODY WRITING THAT WE SHOULD CONVEY CONFIDENCE IN OUR, UH, FINAL, UH, INSTRUCTIONS. ONE OF YOU HAD WRITTEN ABOUT CONVEYING CONFIDENCE. I LIKE THE USE OF THE WORD IMPLEMENT RATHER THAN, RATHER THAN CONSIDER FOR, ESPECIALLY WHERE IT'S TALKED ABOUT, UH, GAS POWERED, UH, UH, LAWNMOWERS AND GARDEN EQUIPMENT. ONE OF YOU, ONE OF YOU WROTE THAT I BELIEVE, UM, TWO OF YOU WROTE, UH, THE DANGER FOR METHANE. AND, UH, PEOPLE, OTHER PEOPLE DON'T SEEM TO REALIZE IT, BUT IT'S GOOD TO SEE A COUPLE MEMBERS OF THE, OF THE, UH, GROUP HERE UNDERSTAND THE EXTREME THREAT. THAT METHANE IS FAR WORSE THAN CARBON DIOXIDE. AND WE SHOULD CONSIDER HOW MUCH OUR FARM PRODUCTS LOCALLY CONTRIBUTE TO THE METHANE PROBLEM. AND THE LAST ONE THAT ONE OF YOU MENTIONED WAS, UH, CAR CULTURE AND, UH, THAT ALL OF OUR SUBSIDIES TO BUILD A CAR CULTURE FOR THE LAST A HUNDRED YEARS HAVE BASICALLY ENSLAVED US TO CARBON DIOXIDE AND ENSLAVED US TO DESTROYING OUR CULTURE. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE END THE SUBSIDIES. THANK YOU. AND I'VE, THE LAST SPEAKER CARD I HAVE IS FOR VERONICA OLSON. OH, I'M SEATING MY TIME. I WAS SEATING MY TIME. UM, I'D LIKE TO JUST REITERATE WHAT THE OTHER TWO MEMBERS OF VARIOUS CITY, UM, COMMISSIONS AND COMMITTEES HAVE SAID. UM, WE AS THE SENIOR ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WE'RE NOT ADVISED ABOUT THIS. WE HAD NO WAY TO PUT INPUT IN WITHOUT YOU ASKING US FOR INPUT. UM, WE ARE KIND OF LIKE, AM I SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO PUT INPUT NOW BETWEEN NOW AND JANUARY 3RD? YOU SAID WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO BECAUSE YOU'VE NEVER TOLD US WHAT TO DO. YOU'VE NOT ADVISED US HOW TO PUT INPUT. NOW YOU TELL ONE OF THE OTHER MEMBERS OF ANOTHER COMMITTEE THAT WE SHOULD CONTACT ONE OF THE PEOPLE ON THE AD HOC COMMITTEE, UM, ABOUT MAKING SURE OUR COMMENTS ARE PUT IN. I MEAN, THE PERSON WHO GAVE US THE INFORMATION ON ONLINE JUST NOW SAID SHE RECEIVED NO INFORMATION FROM ANY COMMITTEE OR COMMISSIONS. IT'S BECAUSE YOU NEVER ASKED US. OKAY. UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I GUESS BEFORE WE LAUNCH INTO THE COMMISSION MEMBER COMMENTS, I THINK THERE WAS A PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING, UH, ADOPTING THE REQUEST FOR CCB COMMENTS. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THE PRIVILEGE OF NOT HAVING THE CITY ATTORNEY HERE TO DISCUSS THE BROWN ACT, I WILL LEAVE IT UP TO MR. CARTER TO PROVIDE A BIT OF GUIDANCE ON THIS TOPIC. THANK YOU. I'D, I'D FIRST LIKE TO RESPOND TO, UM, SOME OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS, UM, THAT WERE RECEIVED. UM, FIRST I THINK THERE'S A MISUNDERSTANDING THAT, THAT THIS COMMISSION OWNS THE BLUEPRINT. UM, IT'S A CITY DOCUMENT AND THE COMMISSION IS TRYING TO BE THE FACE OF IT TO TRY AND GET IT OUT TO THE COMMUNITY IN ADDITION TO WHAT CITY STAFF IS DOING. UM, IT'S BEEN PART OF OUR COMMUNITY UPDATES THAT HAPPEN MULTIPLE TIMES, UH, A MONTH. UM, IT'S BEEN PART OF OUR SOCIAL MEDIAS. UH, I MEAN, WE'VE HAD COOL PETALUMA GO OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND DISCUSS IT. UM, SO I, I THINK IF THERE'S A FEELING OF FRUSTRATION THAT OTHER CCBS COMMITTEES, UH, COMMISSIONS AND BOARDS HAVEN'T BEEN INVITED, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S NECESSARILY PROPERLY DIRECTED AT, AT THIS COMMISSION. UM, BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S NOT THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO DO THAT. UM, I, [01:30:01] I, I DO KNOW THAT THE LIAISON, SO THAT WOULD BE THE STAFF MEMBERS WHO ARE THE REPRESENTATIVES, UM, TALKING TO THE, THE CHAIRS AND THE COMMISSIONS, UM, WERE INVITED TO BRING THIS, UM, TO THOSE CCBS. AND, UM, I DON'T THINK THAT THERE WAS A OVERWHELMING RESPONSE, UM, GIVEN WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM RIHANNA ON THAT. UM, SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S A BIT OF A CONUNDRUM. I'M, I'M DEFINITELY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE'S SOME FRUSTRATION, FEELING LIKE THERE'S, THERE'S PEOPLE LEFT OUT. UM, I WILL JUST SAY THAT THERE'S NOTHING THAT PREVENTS THOSE, UM, COMMITTEE AND COMMISSION MEMBERS FROM GOING TO THE CITY'S WEBSITE. AND, UM, LOOKING AT THE BLUEPRINT THERE, UM, MAKING THEIR OWN DECISIONS ON IT AND COMMENTING AS INDIVIDUALS AND, AND, AND PROVIDING THAT FEEDBACK, I THINK THAT THAT'S, UM, UH, COMPLETELY VALID AND, AND SOMETHING THAT CAN STILL BE ACCOMMODATED. UM, AND I THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'LL, WE'LL GO BACK AND, AND RECHECK WITH THE STAFF LIAISONS TO FIND OUT, UM, WHAT WERE THE COMMUNICATION BROKE DOWN THERE, IF, IF SO. UM, BUT I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT, THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT FRUSTRATION SHOULD BE LEVELED AT, AT THE COMMISSION MEMBERS THERE, BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE REALLY TRYING TO BE THE FACE OF PUSHING THAT MESSAGE OUT. UM, AND, AND NOT, NOT NECESSARILY RESPONSIBLE FOR HOW IT WAS PUSHED OUT. UM, THE OTHER ISSUE ABOUT, UM, AND, AND, AND I'M NOT QUITE SURE IF I UNDERSTOOD IT CORRECTLY, BUT OTHER COMMISSIONS CAN TAKE THIS, THIS ISSUE UP IF IT'S ON THE AGENDA. UM, THERE'S NOT LIKE A LIMIT TO THE NUMBER OF, OF, UM, THINGS THAT CAN BE DISCUSSED IN A CERTAIN YEAR. UM, THERE CAN EVEN BE JOINT MEETINGS, UM, IF, IF NECESSARY, IF THERE'S SOMETHING, IF THERE'S A, A TOPIC OF OVERLAP THAT, UM, THAT BOTH COMMISSIONS WANT TO DISCUSS AND, AND, UM, MAKE A DECISION ON JOINTLY. UM, BUT I THINK THAT THE BLUEPRINT WITH ITS NATURAL, UM, CONNECTION WITH CLIMATE ACTION, BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE DOCUMENT'S ABOUT, IS ABOUT TAKING THOSE CLIMATE ACTIONS. I THINK THAT THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT RAMIAN ASSOCIATES HAD REALLY ENVISIONED THAT THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION WOULD BE THE HUB FOR THAT FEEDBACK. UM, NOT NECESSARILY ALL THE OTHER COMMISSIONS, ALTHOUGH I, I THINK THAT THAT FEEDBACK CAN BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT. SO I, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HELPS OR IF THAT MUDDIES THE WATER, BUT DEFINITELY, UM, EVERYBODY AS INDIVIDUALS CAN MAKE COMMENTS ON THIS. UM, AND IF THERE'S TIME, YOU KNOW, OTHER COMMISSIONS CAN TAKE IT UP AS WELL. SO, THANK YOU, MR. CARTER. UM, I WILL SAY IN MY NARROW UNDERSTANDING OF THE BROWN ACT, WHAT WE DO HAVE IS A STAFF REPORT THAT LISTS JANUARY 3RD, 2024 AS THE REVIEW PERIOD FOR THE CCBS. AND WITH THAT BEING IN THE STAFF REPORT, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO INVITE THOSE CCBS TO MAKE THEIR COMMENTS BY THAT DATE. SECOND, A SECOND. OH, COULD I, FOR A, A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, PLEASE. UM, RATHER THAN INVITE, I WOULD REQUEST THOSE COMMENTS. AND, UM, YEAH. SO, OH, AND THAT THEY BE MADE AS BODIES AS OPPOSED TO THE INDIVIDUALS. 'CAUSE I KNOW MANY INDIVIDUALS HAVE ALREADY COMMENTED, BUT THERE'S OBVIOUSLY MORE WEIGHT TO A BODY AS A WHOLE. JUST AS WE ARE BEING ASKED AS A BODY AS A WHOLE TO COMMENT, I WOULD, I WOULD REQUEST THAT THOSE BODIES THAT WISH TO DO SO, PUT THAT ON THEIR AGENDAS FOR UPCOMING MEETINGS. IS THAT AN ACCEPTABLE AMENDMENT COUNCIL MEMBER? SCHB. OKAY. I SEE. UH, A PROBLEM WITH, WITH JUST SETTING JANUARY 3RD AS THE DATE, BECAUSE MOST OF THESE COMMITTEES THAT MIGHT WANT TO ARE NOT MEETING BETWEEN NOW AND JANUARY 3RD AND DON'T EVEN HAVE THE CAPACITY TO, UH, FORM, UH, TO GET TOGETHER FOR A MEETING BETWEEN NOW AND THEN. SO HOW ABOUT AT THEIR NEXT MEETING? AT THEIR NEXT MEETING? I WOULD SUGGEST THAT AS, AS AN IN, LET'S, LET'S REQUEST THAT THEY, UM, PROVIDE THEIR INPUT AT, BY THE T DURING OR IMMEDIATELY AFTER THEIR NEXT MEETING, THAT THEY WORK ON IT. SO THAT, THAT, IF I MAY, IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN IF I MAY, THAT'S NOT AN ACTION THAT'S ON THE AGENDA OR PART OF THE STAFF REPORT. BUT WHAT THE COMMISSION CAN DO IS REQUEST THAT STAFF, UM, MAKE A, A VERY UNDERLINED, LIKE TRIPLE UNDERLINED REQUEST, UM, TO THIS, THE LIAISONS THAT THIS BE PUT ON THE AGENDA [01:35:01] FOR THOSE OTHER CCBS, UM, FOR DISCUSSION AND ACTION, UM, THAT DIRECTION TO STAFF CAN HAPPEN. BUT, UH, AN AN ACTUAL MOTION AND AND APPROVAL OF THIS COMMISSION IS, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT THE RECOMMENDATION, THAT'S NOT, UH, SUBJECT FOR ACT TODAY. OKAY. SO I WOULD MOVE TO ADD PATRICK'S AMENDMENT THAT THE, WE REQUEST THE STAFF, UH, LIAISONS TO, UH, PUT THIS ITEM ON THE NEXT AGENDAS ON THESE COMMITTEES. OKAY. DOES ANYONE HAVE AN OBJECTION TO THAT? GREAT. OKAY. I THINK WE VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO PROVIDE THAT DIRECTION. YOU, YOU DIDN'T VOTE, BUT WE RECEIVED YOUR, YOUR DIRECTION VERY CLEARLY. YES. AND, UM, PATRICK, THIS IS RIHANNA, FRANK AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO, UM, HOP ON. UM, WHEN I INITIALLY REACHED OUT TO THE STAFF LIAISONS MULTIPLE MONTHS AGO, AT LEAST TWO MONTHS AGO, I OUTLINED A PATH FOR THEM BECAUSE MOST OF THESE CCB, LIKE THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION, ARE ALSO BROWN ACT BODIES. AND A PATH THAT I, UM, DEFINED FOR THE STAFF LIAISONS WERE THAT EACH COMMISSION WOULD HAVE TO FORM THEIR OWN AD HOC, MUCH LIKE THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION, BECAUSE THE CONSULTANTS AND STAFF CAN ONLY ACCEPT ONE UNIFIED COMMENT MATRIX FROM EACH BODY. AND, AND LIKE THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION'S PROCESS, EACH OF THOSE CCBS WOULD NEED TO PROVIDE THEIR AD HOC WITH THE INDIVIDUAL COMMENT MATRIXES THROUGH THE PUBLIC FORUM. THAT'S WHY I REACHED OUT TO THE STAFF STAFF LIAISONS MONTHS AGO SO THAT THEY WOULD HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO, TO FULFILL THIS PROCESS. WHAT HAPPENED BEYOND MY INVITATION, I CANNOT SPEAK ABOUT, BUT I, I STILL THINK THAT WE CAN, WE CAN FOLLOW UP TO DO WHAT WE CAN AS STAFF TO ENCOURAGE THAT FEEDBACK. WHETHER IT'S, YES, I, UM, I CAN WORK WITH THE STAFF LIAISONS AND LEGAL TO SEE WHAT NEW DEFINED PROCESS WE CAN, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH. CAN I, CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION TO THAT THE, THE COMMISSIONS OR THE COMMITTEES FOCUS ON THE PARTICULAR CHAPTERS THAT ARE MOST IN THEIR WHEELHOUSE, JUST TO KIND OF STREAMLINE EVERYTHING. 'CAUSE THEN WE'D BE GETTING, YOU KNOW, THE MOST FOCUSED, UH, DIRECTION FROM THOSE COMMITTEES. I MEAN, I THINK THIS HAS KIND OF BEEN AN OVERALL WEAKNESS IN OUR PROCESS THE WHOLE TIME, IS LIKE THE WAY THAT COMMISSIONS INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER AND HOW WE SHARE INFORMATION. AND, UM, WE ARE NOT GONNA SOLVE THAT TONIGHT. BUT I DO THINK IT HAS BEEN KIND OF AN ONGOING ISSUE. I THINK THAT THE COMMISSIONS DON'T ALWAYS FEEL LIKE THEIR TIME IS BEING FULLY VALUED AND WELL UTILIZED. AND THE, THE POINT IS TO BRING PUBLIC ATTENTION TO THE ISSUES, BUT SOMETIMES IT ACTUALLY DOESN'T SEEM TO WORK THAT WAY. UM, SO MAYBE WE CAN FIND A WAY TO DO THIS A LITTLE BETTER. SO THAT'LL HELP US ON OUR JOURNEY. YEAH. SO WHAT WE'RE RUNNING INTO IS, UH, THE TIMELINES 'CAUSE THE TIMELINE, JANUARY 21, WHEN, UH, UH, THE REMY ASSOCIATES AND STAFF WERE SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE, UM, ACTUALLY A NEW DOCUMENT TO, TO US, UM, OR TO THE AD HOC COMMITTEE FOR, FOR REVIEW. SO THERE, THERE'S SOME TIMELINES HERE THAT MAY BE DIFFICULT IF WE GO THROUGH THE ACTUAL REAL PROCESS THAT, THAT RIHANNA IS TALKING ABOUT. THEY HAVE TO FORM AD HOCS, AD HOCS GET TOGETHER, THEN THEY HAVE TO GO TO ANOTHER MEETING, AND THEN THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT IT FOR YES, WE'RE GONNA DO THAT LIKE WE'RE DOING. UM, BUT I THINK WHAT, WHAT WE NEED TO ALSO MAKE CLEAR IS THEY'RE NOT, ALL THE OTHER COMMITTEES ARE NOT PROVIDING US THE INFORMATION. ALL THE INFORMATION IS GOING TO THE STAFF AND, AND, UH, EY ASSOCIATES NOT TO US. WE ARE NOT THE HOLDERS OF, OR THE EDITORS OF THE DOCUMENT ITSELF. SO WHAT WE'RE DOING UP HERE IS JUST FOR US, BY US TO STAFF AND REMY. UM, AND I THINK THE COMMITTEES MIGHT HAVE MORE TIME TO HELP PASS JANUARY ONE, WHICH THEY'RE NOT PART OF OUR PROCESS. THEY'RE STILL PART OF THE GPAC PROCESS OF, AND REMY'S AND THE STAFF. SO I THINK THAT THE TIMELINES AND THEN WHO'S DOING WHAT NEEDS TO BE, I THINK, UH, HOPEFULLY I JUST CLARIFIED SOME OF THAT. IF NOT, PATRICK CAN BACK THAT UP. AND, AND I DID WANNA MENTION ALSO THAT, UH, GPAC FEEDBACK IS BEING, UM, INCLUDED IN THIS. SO, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T WANNA HAVE THAT DIALOGUE UP THERE, BUT DEFINITELY THAT FEEDBACK IS BEING INCORPORATED. BUT, UH, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, I, I BELIEVE YOU'RE CORRECT ON THAT, THAT YOU KNOW, THIS IS, THIS IS THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION'S PROCESS. THERE COULD [01:40:01] BE DIFFERENT P PROCESSES FOR ALL THE OTHER CCBS, AND ULTIMATELY IT IS FEEDBACK THAT'S GOING TO STAFF AND THE EY THAT IS GONNA COLLATE IT ALL AND COME UP WITH THE FINAL FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION. THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE TIME. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ADD, UM, THIS IS BRIANNA FRANK AGAIN, THAT THE TIMELINE IS THE SAME FOR ALL THE CCBS. 'CAUSE THE END GOAL FOR THE TIMELINE IS TO BRING IT FORTH TO CITY COUNCIL LATE APRIL, EARLY MAY. THANK YOU. UM, DIDN'T THINK WE'D GET ANOTHER CHANCE AT THE PROCESS DISCUSSION, BUT HERE WE ARE. UM, I, YOU KNOW, TO ECHO RIHANNA'S COMMENT, ULTIMATELY A DOCUMENT WILL GO BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL. AND IF YOU HAPPEN TO BE SITTING ON A CCB, YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME AMOUNT OF MODEST AUTHORITY IN THAT PROCESS AND WHATEVER THAT DOCUMENT IS AND WHAT HAPPENS AT THE CITY COUNCIL. SO WITH THAT, I WILL SAY HOPEFULLY EVERYONE IS WELCOMED, ENCOURAGED, INVITED TO GO BACK TO THEIR BODIES AND DO WHATEVER WORK NECESSARY THEY DEEMED TO PROVIDE THE BEST DOCUMENT WE CAN TO INCLUDE IN OUR GENERAL PLAN. I WOULD ALSO, LASTLY, JUST LIKE TO THANK, THIS IS ONE OF THE RARE OCCASIONS THAT WE, WE HAVE MULTIPLE MEMBERS OF CCBS IN ATTENDANCE. SO, YOU KNOW, LET'S TRY AND KEEP THAT UP. UM, YOU KNOW, NOT TO FORESHADOW SOME OF THE NEXT MEETING, UH, TOPICS. I KNOW, UM, SEVERAL PEOPLE UP HERE HAVE REQUESTED, UH, A AGENDAS TOPIC OF LIAISONS TO THE VARIOUS COMMITTEES. SO TAKE THAT BACK TO YOUR OWN BODIES. YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME COMMITTEES THAT HAVE LIAISONS, PARTICULARLY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. SO IF YOU SIT ON A CCB AND WANNA BE ON MORE THAN ONE MEETING, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF BROWN NECK RULES THAT ARE GONNA GET IN YOUR WAY. BUT IF YOU HAVE THAT DESIRE, THEN PLEASE PURSUE IT. THAT BEING SAID, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE MEAT OF OUR AGENDA TONIGHT. AND THAT IS THE, UH, CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION MEMBER COMMENTS ON THE DOCUMENT AND THEIR SUBMITTED COMMENTS. SO I WILL FIRST LIKE TO START WITH COUNCIL MEMBERSHIPS. OKAY. I, UM, WAS ABLE TO, UH, WHEN I FOUND OUT I HAD TO USE THE MATRIX, NOT, I'VE ALREADY TURNED IN A PAPER TEXT, UH, EARLIER, BUT, UH, I WAS INFORMED NOT TOO LONG AGO. OH, IT HAS TO BE IN MATRIX FORM, BUT I WENT IN AND TOOK THE WEEKEND TO DO THAT. GOT IT DONE. SO I HAVE MY FIVE PAGES ON DETAILS OF ITEMS, WHICH I'M NOT GONNA GO OVER HERE. I THINK THERE, THEY'LL BE DONE. UH, OUR AD HOC WILL BE A FINE JOB. AND I THINK THERE, THE INPUT THAT'S HAS ALSO BEEN RECEIVED FROM THE OTHER GROUPS, IT'S FABULOUS. I AGREE WITH JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING. I LOOKED AT A COUPLE, UH, OF THEM THAT I COULD, THAT I WAS ABLE TO GET AHOLD OF. AND, UM, UH, IT'S WONDERFUL TO HAVE THAT MUCH PARTICIPATION IN ALL THESE DOC, UH, IN THIS PARTICULAR DOCUMENT. SO I'M GONNA GO TO THE HIGH LEVEL, UM, STUFF OF WHAT I THINK IS, IS MOST IMPORTANT AND WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO DO DIFFERENT AND, AND WHAT'S IN, WHAT IS MISSING FROM THIS DOCUMENT. UM, FIRST OFF, I LIKE THE WORD BLUEPRINT 'CAUSE THAT'S ALL THIS IS. IT'S JUST A BLUEPRINT. IT'S NOT A CALL TO ACTION. IT'S NOT AN IMPLEMENTATION. IT'S NOT ANYTHING OTHER THAN A BLUEPRINT, LIKE A DRAWING OF WHAT COULD BE DONE. AND, UM, THERE WASN'T EVEN A LOT OF SUGGESTIONS AS TO HOW IT SHOULD BE DONE OR THE ACTUAL IMPLEMENTATION. SO IT'S LIKE A BLUEPRINT FOR A BUILDING. AND NOW YOU GUYS GO AHEAD AS FIND THE ARCHITECT WHO ACTUALLY, AND FIND THE BUILDER WHO ACTUALLY TAKES THE ARCHITECT'S PLAN BLUEPRINT AND TURN IT INTO SOMETHING REAL. SO THIS IS JUST A BLUEPRINT. AND, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ACTUALLY MORE THAN THAT. UM, I'D LIKE TO SEE ACTUALLY AN ACTION PLAN. I'M HOPING THE DARL PLAN, UM, WILL, WILL MOVE THINGS MORE INTO THE ACTIONABLE ITEMS OF ACTUALLY DOING, UM, SO THAT, BUT, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE ON BLUEPRINT. SO AS A BLUEPRINT, THIS IS FINE. ANOTHER PROBLEM, I HAVE A HUGE PROBLEM WITH THE WORD CARBON NEUTRALITY. IT IS A TOTAL FALSEHOOD, CARBON NEUTRALITY, IMPOSSIBLE TO ACHIEVE, IS UNREALISTIC AND IS MISLEADING THE PUBLIC ENTIRELY. UM, WHAT WAS COMMENTED EARLIER TODAY ABOUT, UM, ONE OF THE, UH, THE FOLKS UP HERE SAID, OH, WELL, IT DOESN'T INCLUDE MUCH ABOUT BEHAVIOR CHANGES. SO WHAT THIS DOCUMENT IS ONLY ABOUT, AND VERY SPECIFICALLY ABOUT IS CARBON EMISSIONS AND CARBON EMISSIONS IN THIS TOWN BY WHAT WE DO INSIDE THIS TOWN IN, IN OUR CITY LIMITS. IT'S EXTREMELY LIMITED DOCUMENT AS TO WHAT WE CAN DO, BUT THIS IS A GOOD DOCUMENT, UH, THAT THIS IS WHAT WE CAN DO AND WE SHOULD DO EVERYTHING THAT'S IN THIS DOCUMENT. ABSOLUTELY, I TOTALLY AGREE [01:45:01] WE NEED TO DO THIS, BUT IT'S ONLY MAYBE 10% OF WHAT WE ACTUALLY NEED TO DO TO ACTUALLY SOLVE THE CLIMATE CRISIS WORLDWIDE. IT IS THE MINIMUM, THE ABSOLUTE MINIMUM OF WHAT WE NEED TO GO AFTER. UM, SO WHAT WE'RE, WHAT THIS IMPLIES CARBON NEUTRALITY IS, IS ACTUALLY IMPLYING CARBON FOOTPRINT. AND CARBON FOOTPRINT IS A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN EMISSIONS. AND IT'S ONLY TALKING ABOUT CARBON, BASICALLY CARBON DIOXIDE EMISSIONS IN THIS DOCUMENT. SO, UM, SO I I I'VE, I'D LIKE TO BE ALMOST FORCIBLY ABOUT THIS, BUT WE NEED TO CHANGE THE NAME OF THE DOCUMENT TO REDUCTION OF CARBON EMISSION PLAN. THAT'S IT, THAT'S ALL THIS REALLY IS. IT'S NOT ABOUT CARBON FOOTPRINT. IT'S NOT ABOUT CHANGING OUR BEHAVIORS OF STOPPING EATING BEEF, UH, NOT ABOUT AGRICULTURAL PRACTICES THAT, THAT ARE SUPPORTED THROUGH OUR TOWN. SINCE THIS IS BASICALLY AN AG TOWN, UM, THERE IS SO MUCH MORE TO CARBON NEUTRALITY AND CARBON FOOTPRINT, JUST OUR SUPPLY CHAINS, OUR DISTRIBUTION CHAIN, UH, THE WAY WE BUY GOODS, THE WAY WE BUILD OUR HOUSES, OUR ROADS, OUR OUR ROOFS, ALL OF THAT IS PART OF OUR CARBON FOOTPRINT. I, I, I TAUGHT ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENCE AND ONE OF THE SHOWS AND A NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC FROM 1970 WAS ABOUT CARBON FOOTPRINT. AND EVERYBODY SHOULD HOPEFULLY GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT OF WHAT THE TYPICAL FAMILY DOES FOR THEIR CARBON FOOTPRINT. IT'S ABSOLUTELY HUGE JUST IN THE STUFF THAT WE ACTUALLY USE ON A DAILY BASIS. SO, UM, SO ANYWAY, SO CARBON, SO I WANT TO CHANGE THE NAME. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I'M, I'M PRETTY STRONG ON. UH, SO THAT WE'RE VERY CLEAR. UH, ANOTHER THING IS THAT WHAT WAS MENTIONED, UH, CARBON DIOXIDE IS, YEAH, THE CURRENT MAJOR GREENHOUSE GAS, BUT METHANE IS THE COMING GAS THAT'S EVEN GONNA BE WORSE. THERE'S A FEW OTHERS THAT, BUT METHANE GETS BRIEFLY MENTIONED IN THIS DOCUMENT AND NEEDS TO BE FURTHER DOCUMENTED IN HERE AS TO WHAT IT IS AND WHERE THE SOURCES ARE AND WHERE IT NEEDS TO GO. UM, AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO ABOUT METHANE. SO METHANE, BASICALLY TWO SOURCES LOCALLY IS, UH, WHICH WAS MENTIONED, UM, WAS OUR, OUR, OUR, UH, COMPOSTING AND OUR LANDFILLS. SO THERE'S METHANE IN LANDFILLS, EMISSIONS, UH, AND OUR WASTE TREATMENT PLANT. LOTS OF METHANE I SAW YESTERDAY FLAMING OFF BEING FLAMED OFF BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT BEING ALLOWED TO MAKE THE BIOGAS. AND I ALSO KNOW THAT THERE'S PLENTY OF, OF COWS HERE, UM, WITHIN OUR, UH, COUNTY, AND THEY'RE ALL PRODUCING LARGE AMOUNTS OF METHANE. WE HAVE, UH, THE AGRICULTURE PRODUCERS ARE TRYING TO REDUCE IT. SO THERE'S A WHOLE LOT ABOUT METHANE THAT NEEDS TO BE INCLUDED AS WELL AS CARBON DIOXIDE. THE, UM, THE OTHER ONE IS, UM, WHAT'S NOT MENTIONED IN HERE IS, IS, UH, THERE'S A, A STATEMENT IN HERE THAT WE REALLY NEED TO EMPHASIZE, WHICH IS, UH, THERE'S THE READING THE STATEMENT. IT SAYS, TO REACH CARBON NEUTRALITY BY 2030, PETALUMA WILL NEED TO IMPLEMENT ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND DECARBONIZATION MODIFICATIONS IN 85% OF ALL BUILDINGS. AND 25% OF ALL VEHICLES IN PETALUMA ARE ELECTRIC AND TRANSITION, 75% OF ALL TRAVEL TRIPS OTHER THAN SINGLE OCCUPANCY VEHICLES. THOSE NUMBERS DON'T QUITE MATCH UP TO ME, BUT THIS IS PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT STATEMENT OF WHAT WE NEED TO GO TOWARD. AND WE NEED TO EVEN DO MORE THAN WHAT IS SAID HERE. AS FAR AS THE NUMBERS GO. THE NUMBERS ARE NOT, UM, HIGH ENOUGH WHAT WE NEED TO DO. THE OTHER PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THIS ONE, THIS STATEMENT, OTHER THAN SINGLE OCCUPANCY VEHICLES, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE BEEN PROMOTING IS MICRO MOBILITY AND IN MICRO MOBILITY, THE HANDICAP, THE AGED, THE YOUNG ON SMALL EV VEHICLES, THAT IF WE CAN GET 75% OF THE TRAVEL TRIPS INTO MICROCAR, AND BECAUSE WE NEED TO NOT JUST CHANGE TO EVS 'CAUSE CHANGING AN EV THAT'S, THAT'S, I I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH CHANGING 25% OF VEHICLES TO ELECTRIC. THAT SHOULD BE 50%, UM, BECAUSE BY 2030 WE'RE EVEN SUPPOSED TO BE PRODUCING ALMOST A HUNDRED PERCENT ONLY. UM, SO 25% IS, IS TOO SMALL. AND IN 75% OF ALL TRAVEL TRIPS, UM, UH, SHOULD BE EITHER ACTIVE TRANSPORT OR IN MICRO MOBILITY, WHICH INCLUDES AND WHAT'S COMING WORLDWIDE. IT'S NOT QUITE HERE YET IN, IN CALIFORNIA, BUT THERE'S A INKLINGS THAT'S COMING. BUT WORLDWIDE, THERE'S HUGE EFFORT WORLDWIDE TO, UM, PUT PEOPLE INTO MICRO VEHICLES OF ALL SORTS OF, EVERYTHING FROM SUPER SKATEBOARDS ALL THE WAY TO HANDICAPPED CHAIRS THAT GO 20 MILES AN AN HOUR TO, UM, WHAT LOOKS LIKE LITTLE WEDGIE, UM, ENCAPSULATED MOTORCYCLES. UM, AND EVEN FOR THE HANDICAP, THERE'S EVEN ONE TOWN HERE IN GEORGIA NEAR ATLANTA, GEORGIA. THERE'S A SMALL LITTLE TOWN, UM, NOT, BUT NOT OUR SIZE, BUT, BUT JUST A SMALLER TOWN AND THE PARKING LOT FOR THEIR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS IS FULL OF GOLF CARTS BECAUSE THEY HAVE A HUNDRED MILES OF TRAILS. AND THE STUDENTS ARE ALL DRIVING [01:50:01] GOLF CARTS TO SCHOOL, UM, ON THEIR TRAILS. SO WE NOW HAVE, THEY'RE ALREADY DOING IT THERE IN, IN, IN NEAR ATLANTA, GEORGIA. UM, AND THEY'RE DOING IT IN FLORIDA, UH, USING GOLF COURTS OF VARIOUS TYPES. SO WE, WE'LL, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF EVS THAT ARE GONNA LOOK LIKE GOLF COURTS HERE WITHIN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS BEING PRODUCED AND SOLD HERE. AND SO THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF THE SINGLE OCCUPANCY VEHICLES, IT'S NOT SINGLE OCCUPANTS VEHICLES. WE WANT SINGLE OCCUPANCY VEHICLES OF TINY AMOUNTS. SO INSTEAD OF LARGE VEHICLES, ALL LARGE VEHICLES NEED TO TRANSFER DOWN TO SMALL VEHICLES. UM, REDUCING SIGHT. UM, I DROVE MY 7,000 POUND TRUCK HERE TODAY BECAUSE I WAS JUST, IT'S A LITTLE TOO COLD FOR ME ON MY BIKE TONIGHT. A LITTLE TOO DANGEROUS AT NIGHT HERE ON MY BIKE. SO I DROVE MY 7,000 POUND PICKUP TRUCK THAT GETS 12 MILES TO THE GALLON. UM, SO, BUT ARE YOU GONNA GET ME ON A BIKE HERE AT NIGHT AT 75% OF, OF, OF US TO DO THAT? THERE'S NO WAY THAT'S UNREALISTIC. BUT WE COULD, I WOULD BE DRIVING HERE IF I HAD A SECOND VEHICLE THAT WAS A TINY LITTLE SIX FOOT BY THREE FOOT MICROCAR THAT HAS AIR CONDITIONING, HEATING SPEAKERS, BLUETOOTH CONNECTIVITY TO THE WEB, WHICH IS EXISTS RIGHT NOW IN OTHER COUNTRIES, AND WE DON'T HAVE IT. UM, I'VE SEEN, UM, I'M RESEARCHING A LOT OF VEHICLES ANYWAY, SO, UM, THAT THE TERM OF SINGLE VEHICLES HAVE A IS, IS A HUGE THING BECAUSE THE NUMBER ONE THING WE CAN DO FOR CARBON EMISSIONS IS NOT EV CARS. IT'S EV MICROCAR. AND THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO GO, AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO HIGHLY PROMOTE FOR OUR POPULATION TO USE. BECAUSE JUST GOING FROM AN EV TO A, TO A BIG CAR TO A BIG EV, SUV IS COMPLETELY LUDICROUS WHEN IT COMES TO CARBON FOOTPRINT, MAYBE HELPING OUR EMISSIONS, BUT IT'S TOTALLY LUDICROUS FOR CARBON FOOTPRINT. AND WE NEED TO EMPHASIZE CARBON FOOTPRINT, NOT EMISSIONS AS WELL IN OUR BEHAVIORS. SO THAT'S MY HUGE STRONG MESSAGE ABOUT WHAT THIS DOCUMENT IS, WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH IT, AND IT'S ONLY A PART OF WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO DO. UM, SO THAT'S MY, THAT'S MY MESSAGE OUT. THANK YOU. COMMISSION MEMBER GARDY. THANK YOU CHAIR. UH, I WANTED TO, UH, ECHO SOME OF THE, UH, COMMENTS, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER SHRIVES IN THAT THIS IS A, A BLUEPRINT, UM, AND IN CONSTRUCTION WHEN YOU BUILD A BUILDING, THE BUILDING DOESN'T TURN OUT EXACTLY LIKE WHAT IT SAYS IN THE PLANS. UH, THIS BLUEPRINT DOES NOT PRECLUDE OTHER ACTIONS THAT THE CITY CAN DO. UH, THIS BLUEPRINT IS NOT PERFECT. IT IS A, UH, PRETTY DARN GOOD BLUEPRINT THOUGH. AND, UH, I WOULD JUST LIKE US TO NOT, UM, TRY TO MAKE IT PERFECT BECAUSE WE CAN'T. AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN START HERE, START TAKING ACTION AS A CITY, REALIZE THAT THERE'S GONNA BE NEW TECHNOLOGIES AS, UH, COMMISSIONER TRIS WAS TALKING ABOUT, OR SORRY, COUNCIL MEMBER TRIS. I'M A LITTLE TIRED. UM, AND, UH, NEW TECHNOLOGIES, THINGS THAT ARE GONNA BE CLEARLY OUT OF THE CITY'S CONTROL. UH, AND, UH, I WOULD JUST HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, I LOVE ALL THE PASSION THAT ALL THE DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT HAVE BEEN REPRESENTED HERE TONIGHT BRING, AND I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO, TO NOT BE PASSIONATE ABOUT IT, BUT ALSO REALIZE THAT WE, WE NEED TO START SOMEWHERE. AND THIS IS A PRETTY DARN GOOD PLACE TO START. SO, UH, THANK YOU. THAT'S MY COMMENTS. OKAY. UM, I GUESS I'LL START WITH MY COMMENTS AND SOMEWHAT TO ECHO, UM, COMMISSIONER MEMBER GARDIS COMMENTS. YOU KNOW, I THINK WE HAVE THOUSANDS OF COMMENTS NOW. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WHILE WE ARE CERTAINLY ENCOURAGING MORE COMMENTS AND A NEVER ENDING STREAM OF COMMENTS, IT'S AT SOME POINT THE COMMENTS NEED TO TURN INTO COMMENTS TO THE CITY COUNCIL DURING THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM WHERE THEY'RE MAKING PURCHASES, RIGHT? AND SO THOSE ARE LONELY MEETINGS. AND SO AGAIN, I ENCOURAGE THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE PASSIONATE ON THIS TOPIC TO TRANSLATE SOME OF THAT ENERGY INTO ACTUAL COMMENTS TO, UH, THE DECISION MAKING BODY FOR OUR CITY. UH, THAT BEING SAID, I, UH, WILL SOMEWHAT RESPOND TO COMMISSION MEMBER SRI'S COMMENTS. THIS IS AGAIN, WHAT IS AGENDIZED FOR, UH, FEBRUARY AND SOMEWHAT LOOSELY CONTEMPLATED TO BE A DISCUSSION FOR JANUARY, YOU KNOW, THE HORSE TRADING OF WHAT SHOULDN'T, SHOULDN'T BE ON THERE. SO I AGREE WITH, UH, 90% OF WHAT HE SAID OTHER THAN CHANGING THE NAME. I WOULD SAY I AM UNDECIDED ON CHANGING THE NAME AT THIS POINT OTHER THAN WE SHOULD HAVE A DISCUSSION OF THE NAME, [01:55:01] YOU KNOW, AND, AND IN THAT DISCUSSION, I MAY BE PERSUADED THAT THE NAME COULD BE CHANGED. I DO LIKE THE WORD BOOT BLUEPRINT. I DO THINK IT'S SOMEWHAT CHALLENGING IN THAT OUR CITY HAS, I BELIEVE, A FORMALLY ADOPTED GOAL OF CARBON NEUTRAL. AND SO THERE IS SORT OF THE ARGUMENT THAT THE DOCUMENT SHOULD DESCRIBE THE CITY'S GOAL. I ALSO COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT THAT GOAL IN, YOU KNOW, MIGHT HAVE LOOKED GOOD A COUPLE YEARS AGO, BUT, YOU KNOW, WITH REFRESHED THINKING, IT'S BASICALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO ACHIEVE WITHOUT THE USE OF OFFSETS. AND SO, YOU KNOW, UM, WHETHER, HOW DEEP WE WANT TO GO IN MODIFYING WHAT THE CITY'S GOAL IS IN THE DOCUMENT'S NAME, OR IF WE WANNA JUST KEEP THE NAME, OR IF WE WANNA SLIGHTLY MODIFY THE NAME, YOU KNOW, BLUEPRINT FOR GHG REDUCTION OR, YOU KNOW, I WOULD MAYBE MAKE A REQUEST TO THE AD HOC TO PROVIDE A COUPLE OF NAMES AS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD VOTE ON SUCH THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD MOVE THE BALL ON THIS TOPIC. AGAIN, I APPRECIATE THAT, UH, CARBON NEUTRALITY IS SOMEWHAT OF A POLITICAL FARCE, BUT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE STUCK WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE CITY GOAL IS AS WRITTEN. SO MORE TO COME ON THAT SPECIFIC POINT. UH, RELATED TO THAT, THIS IS, UH, ONE OF MY LAST COMMENTS, BUT, UM, WHAT ISN'T IN THE DOCUMENT IS, UH, THE NOTION OF OFFSETS. AND SO I DO THINK THERE SHOULD BE, UH, AN ACTION THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTS A POLICY ON OFFSETS NOW THAT ISN'T NECESSARILY PRO OR AGAINST OFFSET, BUT RATHER HAVING CLEAR POLICY ON THE TOPIC. AND SO WITHOUT THAT, IT'S SEEMS VERY ACHIEVABLE TO SOMEWHAT LOOSELY ACHIEVE CARBON NEUTRALITY. AND IF ULTIMATELY A POLICY IS ADOPTED THAT ALLOWS FOR THE PURCHASING OF OFFSETS. AND IF THOSE OFFSETS ARE PERHAPS TARGETED REGIONALLY LOCALLY BY TECHNOLOGY, WHATEVER, IF YOU'RE WELL VERSED IN THE TOPIC OF OFFSETS, OR AT LEAST IN WHAT TRANSPIRED AT THE CLIMATE CHANGE MEETINGS IN THE UAE, YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND THE TOPIC OF OFFSETS. AND ALL OF THAT IS, YOU KNOW, HIGHLY RELEVANT. AND SO IF THE CITY COUNCIL SIMPLY CLARIFIED ITS POSITION ON IT AND THAT THE BLUEPRINT ENCOURAGED THAT ACTIVITY TO OCCUR, THEN I THINK WE WOULD BE BETTER OFF. A COUPLE OTHER MINOR POINTS I'LL MAKE, UM, THE BIOFUEL TOPIC. SO THIS IS FEEDBACK I PROVIDED DIRECTLY TO THE, UM, THE CONSULTANT, UH, STILL HAS YET TO MAKE IT INTO THE DOCUMENT, BUT AS COUNCIL MEMBER RIMS ALLUDED TO, UH, THERE IS AN ENTIRELY UNCLEAR STATUS OF OUR MULTIMILLION DOLLAR BIOGAS FACILITY. MY RECOMMENDATION IS MAYBE A COUPLE PARAGRAPHS ON WHAT SHOULD BE DONE THERE. UH, BUT ULTIMATELY THAT'S ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ASSETS THAT THE CITY HAS IN ACHIEVING CARBON REDUCTION, IS THE ACTUAL UTILIZATION OF THAT FACILITY AND EVENTUALLY EXPANDING OF THAT FACILITY AND, UH, AS WELL AS AN EVALUATION OF OTHER ALTERNATIVE FUELS. AND SO, AGAIN, THE SPREADSHEET HAS A NICE WRITTEN NARRATIVE REGARDING BOTH BIOFUELS AS WELL AS THE SPECIFIC BIOGAS PLANT. I MENTIONED THIS AT THE LAST MEETING, BUT THIS TOPIC IS VERY CONFUSING TO A LOT OF PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THE JARGON THAT'S USED, PARTICULARLY THE WORD BIO. AND SO THERE'S BIOGAS, BIOMASS, RENEWABLE NATURAL GAS, THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY AND THE EIA HAVE VERY GOOD INFORMATION ON THIS TOPIC THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE BLUEPRINT BECAUSE THE CITY COUNCIL, I THINK THREE MEETINGS AGO WERE CONVINCED THAT [02:00:01] A TRACTOR THEY PURCHASE WAS A RENEWABLE DIESEL TRACTOR. AND THAT ISN'T A THING, RIGHT? IT'S JUST A TRACTOR THAT USES DIESEL, AND IF YOU FUEL IT WITH RENEWABLE DIESEL, THEN YOU'RE USING A TRACTOR THAT RUNS ON RENEWABLE DIESEL. AND SO THAT IMPORTANT TOPIC IS SOMEWHAT ELUSIVE STILL. AND I THINK THIS DOCUMENT CAN PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION ON RENEWABLE FUELS AS WELL AS SOMEWHAT OF A TIME-BASED APPROACH TO ENCOURAGING THE USE OF THOSE FUELS. NOT TO GET AHEAD OF MYSELF, BUT, UM, GIVEN THE FACT THAT RIANN IS NOT HERE, I CAN SOMEWHAT STEAL HER THUNDER THAT I THINK AT THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING, THEY ARE ADOPTING THE RENEWABLE DIESEL PURCHASING PLAN. SO THAT HAD BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR SOME TIME AND SOMEWHAT ENCOURAGING. SO, UM, I WILL SAY, UM, WHERE THE SORT OF BIOFUELS OR ALTERNATIVE FUELS, OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THAT IS, DOESN'T HAVE AN ELEGANT HOME IN THE DOCUMENT, MY SUGGESTION WAS TO INCLUDE IT IN THE, UM, ACTION PLAN SECTION ON WATER. I DO THINK THE WATER SECTION IS A BIT OF AN ORPHAN IN THAT IT ONLY REALLY TALKS ABOUT, UH, H2O AND, YOU KNOW, THE REST OF THE DOCUMENT TALKS ABOUT CO2 OR OTHER GASES, RIGHT? AND SO IF WE'RE LOOKING AT IT IN A HOLISTIC WAY, IT'S NOT THAT IT'S THE WATER SECTION AND THAT WATER REDUCTION IS GREAT AND ALL THAT, IT'S THAT WE HAVE A VERY IMPORTANT ASSET IN OUR CITY, AND THAT'S OUR WATER FACILITIES. UH, AND THOSE HAVE, UH, CERTAINLY A WATER ELEMENT, BUT ALSO AN ENERGY USE ELEMENT AS WELL AS A FUELS ELEMENT. AND SO THAT'S WHY I THINK THIS SECTION COULD GO INTO, UM, WHY A LIKE ALTERNATIVE FUEL SECTION COULD GO INTO THE WATER CHAPTER TO SOMEHOW MAKE THE WATER CHAPTER MORE RELEVANT TO THE REST OF THE DOCUMENT. I DON'T REALLY HAVE A STRONG POSITION ON THAT, BUT I THINK IT'S WORTH CONSIDERING. UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC AROUND THE WATER SYSTEM WERE ALSO RELEVANT. UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT CHAPTER I THINK COULD USE A LITTLE BIT MORE LOVE THAN WHAT IT CURRENTLY HAS. UM, I HAVE A COUPLE SORT OF MINOR COMMENTS, UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, TWO FINAL ONES I'LL SORT OF, UH, FOCUS ON IS, UM, THE PARKING PROGRAM. THIS IS, AGAIN, ONE OF MY FAVORITE TOPICS AND SOMETHING I HOPE WE TACKLE IN THE YEAR 2024, NOT 2026. AND I THINK AS A BODY WE CAN HELP SHEPHERD THAT. UM, THERE'S A LOT OF SPECIFIC THINGS WE CAN DO FOR PARKING. UM, BUT ALL OF THE CONVERSATION AT THE CITY RELATED TO HOUSING AND DEVELOPMENT, UH, IS, UM, YOU KNOW, I'LL SAY CONTENTIOUS BECAUSE OF THE PARKING TOPIC. AND SO IF WE CAN SOLVE THE PARKING TOPIC THROUGH OUR CLIMATE AGENDA, WE CAN ALSO POTENTIALLY SOLVE SOME OF THE CHALLENGES RELATED TO HOUSING AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND THAT'S WHY I THINK, AGAIN, TO THE EARLIER COMMENT AROUND CO-BENEFITS, I REALLY WANNA SEE A LOT OF FOCUS AND CORNERSTONE ACTIONS RELATED TO PARKING AND PARKING MANAGEMENT. UM, THE LAST THING I'LL SAY, AND IT'S A, JUST A SPECIFIC NUMBER WITHIN, I THINK IT'S THE, UM, TRANSPORTATION AND LAND USE SECTION, BUT WE NEED A MOBILE FOOD TRUCK ORDINANCE IN THIS TOWN. THAT'S SOMETHING WE LACK. AND BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE A MOBILE FOOD TRUCK ORDINANCE, WE HAVE PEOPLE DRIVING TO DOWNTOWN OR TO THEIR FAVORITE RESTAURANTS TO EAT FOOD. AND IF THERE WERE MORE LOCAL OPTIONS, THEN WE WOULD HAVE SOME NICE VMT REDUCTION. AND SO AGAIN, WHILE IT'S A SPECIFIC ADDITION TO AN ALREADY PRETTY MEATY ACTION PLAN, I DO THINK THAT ONE SPECIFIC ADDITION IS AN IMPORTANT TOPIC THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER. THANKS, UH, FOR THE SAKE OF TIME, I'LL JUST MAKE MY COMMENTS REALLY BRIEF. UM, MOST OF MY COMMENTS REVOLVED AROUND, UM, EQUITY AND EV CHARGING, AND I'D LIKE TO SEE EV CHARGING BECOME MORE ACCESSIBLE TO PEOPLE [02:05:01] THAT DON'T LIVE IN SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. UM, BECAUSE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN MULTI-FAMILY HOMES WOULD ALSO LIKE TO OWN AN EV AND BE ABLE TO HAVE A SPACE TO CHARGE IT. SO ONE OF MY COMMENTS WAS ABOUT, UM, PUTTING IN LEVEL ONE CHARGING IN, UH, CITY GARAGES AND ALLOW PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN NEARBY MULTIFAMILY UNITS TO BE ABLE TO PLUG IN OVERNIGHT AND CHARGE THEIR VEHICLES. AND, UM, THEY WOULD ACCESS A THIRD PARTY SYSTEM AND BE ABLE TO PAY FOR THE ELECTRICITY THAT THEY THEY USE, SO IT WOULDN'T BE FREE. AND THE OTHER ONE IS WORKING WITH OWNERS OF LARGE MULTI-FAMILY COMPLEXES, APARTMENTS, CONDOS, MOBILE HOME PARKS TO INSTALL MORE LEVEL ONE CHARGING, WHICH IS ONE 20 A STANDARD OUTLET IN, UM, COVERED PARKING AND, UH, UH, GARAGES AND THINGS SO THAT PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THOSE COMPLEXES WOULD BE ABLE TO OWN AN EV AND PLUG IN OVERNIGHT, WHICH IS WHERE MOST ALL EV USERS, UH, CHARGE THEIR CARS. IT'S THE CHEAPEST AND MOST CONVENIENT, AND THEY CHARGE OVERNIGHT. AND THE OTHER COMMENT, UH, THAT I MADE WAS AROUND EXPANDING THE, UH, THE DIGESTERS AT THE ELLIS CREEK FACILITY TO ALLOW THEM TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE MORE HIGH STRENGTH MATERIAL LIKE BREWERY SPOILS, FOOD WASTE MANURE FROM DAIRIES AND THINGS. UH, KIND OF, UH, DOVETAILS INTO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER SRI'S COMMENT ABOUT METHANE. SO I THINK WE COULD DO A LOT MORE TO CAPTURE THAT METHANE AND IN THE FORM OF BIOGAS AND USE IT FOR EITHER LARGE COMMERCIAL VEHICLES OR TO USE IT TO POWER GENERATORS TO PRODUCE ELECTRICITY IN, UH, AT THE TIMES WHERE THE WIND'S NOT BLOWING AND THE SUN'S NOT SHINING. THANK YOU. UM, A REQUEST, COULD WE HAVE A BRIEF BIO BREAK? WHAT TIME IS IT? UM, CAN WE DO A FIVE MINUTE REST, RECESS AND, UH, RETURN AT 8 45? THANK YOU. OKAY. 8:45 PM WE, WE ARE RESUMED COMMISSION MEMBER EDM MINSTER. OKAY. UM, FIRSTLY, UM, I WOULD LOVE TO REQUEST THAT THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE PROVIDED COMMAS THAT AREN'T IN YOUR MATRICES, PUT THEM IN MATRICES FOR, UH, TO AID THE PROCESS. THAT'D BE VERY HELPFUL. I AM NOT COUNTING ON MY OWN NOTES BEING SUFFICIENTLY COMPREHENSIVE. OKAY. UM, OKAY. UM, OKAY. I HAD, I HAD A LOT, A LOT IN MY SPREADSHEET, SO I JUST BOILED THIS DOWN TO MAYBE, MAYBE 10 COMMENTS THAT I'M TRYING TO CALL OUT AS HIGH LEVEL. FIRST ONE, I JUST WANNA CALL OUT THAT THERE IS LOTS OF GOOD CONTENT IN THE BLUEPRINT AND ACKNOWLEDGE THE WORK OF CONSULTANTS AND STAFF ON GETTING US TO THIS POINT. AND, UM, AND THEN ALSO TO THANK THOSE WHO HAVE REALLY ENHANCED THIS DOCUMENT. UM, PARTICULARLY MY FELLOW CAP MEMBERS AND THE MANY OTHERS WHO CONTRIBUTED THEIR EXPERTISE TO INFORM CAP'S COMMENTS BECAUSE, UM, AS, AS REAN AND DEB HAVE NOTED, THAT WAS A REALLY CONSIDERABLE EFFORT AND A LOT OF, UM, INSIGHT AND WISDOM WENT INTO ALL THAT. I ALSO WANNA THANK COMMENTS WE RECEIVED FROM SUSAN KIRKS, FROM NICOLA FRY, FROM AND FROM NED ORIT. NED'S COMMENTS SOMEHOW DIDN'T QUITE MAKE IT INTO THE STAFF REPORT, UM, BUT HE DID SUBMIT COMMENTS A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. AND, UM, ALL OF THOSE FOLKS ARE CONTRIBUTING A LOT OF EXPERTISE THAT I CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE AND, UM, REALLY ENRICHED THE PROCESS TREMENDOUSLY AND, UH, HOPE CARRY DUE WEIGHT WITH THE CONSULTANTS AND STAFF AND ULTIMATELY COUNSEL. UM, OKAY. I, MY FIRST COMMENT IS THAT I FELT THAT THE DOCUMENT A UPON REVIEW STRUCK ME AS PERHAPS ADAPTED FOR DECISION MAKERS AND STAFF, BUT NOT SO MUCH FOR PUBLIC CONSUMPTION. AND I THINK THAT, UH, AS MANY FOLKS HAVE SAID, WE NEED THE COMMUNITY TO BE INVOLVED. AND SO I WANNA REALLY ENCOURAGE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE [02:10:01] DESIGN TO MAKE IT MUCH MORE CONCISE VISUAL SCANNABLE, SO YOU CAN RUN THROUGH IT AND SAY, OH, THAT'S WHERE THAT IS, THAT'S WHERE THAT IS. AND ENGAGING REALLY, REALLY NECESSARY. UM, AND THAT MEANS LEADING WITH THE MOST IMPORTANT HIGH LEVEL INFORMATION, WHICH IS THE SCALE AND SCOPE OF WHAT'S NEEDED, HOW THAT WILL BE ACCOMPLISHED, AND ESPECIALLY THE CORNERSTONE ACTIONS. AND I WANNA REINFORCE, UM, THAT IT IS STATED SOMEWHERE IN THE DOCUMENT WHAT IS MEANT BY CORNERSTONE ACTION, WHICH IS THINGS THAT ARE FOUNDATIONAL. UM, LIKE DAVE, I COME FROM A BUILDING BACKGROUND. TO ME, A CORNERSTONE IS THE FIRST THING YOU PLACE WHEN BUILDING A STRUCTURE. SO THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE PUT THERE EARLY IN ORDER TO ENSURE THE SUCCESS OF WHAT FOLLOWS. AND I DON'T THINK THAT THAT MESSAGE WAS REALLY CONVEYED AS EFFECTIVELY AS IT COULD BE. SO WHAT DO WE DO JANUARY 1ST, OR, YOU KNOW, AS SOON THEREAFTER, IS THIS HUMANLY POSSIBLE? WHAT THAT ALSO MEANS, IF WE'RE GONNA MAKE THIS DOCUMENT ENGAGING AND REALLY MAKE IT CLEAR WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN FIRST, SOME OF THE, TO USE A TECHNICAL TERM, BLAH, BLAH, NEEDS TO MOVE FROM THE FRONT OF THE DOCUMENT TO APPENDICES. BECAUSE A LOT OF THIS WE'VE READ AND HEARD BEFORE ON MANY OCCASIONS. AND YES, IT PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE THERE FOR BUREAUCRATIC PURPOSES, BUT IT WILL NOT ENHANCE ITS ACCESSIBILITY TO PETALUMA RESIDENTS. AND BY THE WAY, I WANNA COMMENT SEVERAL TIMES, UM, IN THE LAST COUPLE DAYS LOOKING AT THIS STUFF. I'VE READ CITIZENS AND I TEND TO CRINGE WHEN I HEAR THIS BECAUSE IT EXCLUDES OUR RESIDENTS WHO ARE NOT CITIZENS. AND IN THE INTEREST OF INCLUSIVITY, I REALLY WANNA ENCOURAGE US, AGAIN TO THINK IN TERMS OF ALL WHO RESIDE HERE, NO MATTER WHAT THEIR CITIZENSHIP. THAT'S JUST A PERIPHERAL COMMENT. UM, THE SCOPE OF EFFORT OUTLINED IN THIS DOCUMENT, NOT TO MENTION ALL THE, UM, ENHANCEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED BY MANY SUGGEST, I WOULD SAY IN A, YOU KNOW, AN UNINFORMED VIEWPOINT SUGGESTS TO ME DRAMATIC INCREASES TO FUNDING AND STAFF CAPACITY. AND I DON'T THINK THIS CAN BE OVER, OVER-EMPHASIZED, AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT'S COMING FROM, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE A REALLY CENTRAL FOCUS IN MY, AGAIN, UNINFORMED OPINION. , UM, AS MANY HAVE COMMENTED, AND NICOLE KUMAR IN PARTICULAR, MANY ACTIONS NEED TO BE STARTED EARLIER. UM, THEN ARE NOTED IN ORDER TO ALLOW THE NECESSARY RAMP TIME FOR THESE ACTIVITIES, WHICH ARE GONNA TAKE YEARS TO BUILD PROPERLY, ALL OF THE METRICS NEED TO BE FLESHED OUT WITH QUANTITATIVE AND DATE TARGETS. UNTIL THAT HAPPENS, THEY ARE NOT REALLY METRICS, THEY'RE JUST KIND OF IDEAS. AND I, I BELIEVE THAT ALL OF THE METRICS SHOULD BE INCORPORATED INTO THE MUNICIPAL OPERATIONS SECTION BECAUSE ULTIMATELY THAT'S GONNA BE THE CITY'S JOB, IS TO TRACK AND COMMUNICATE ALL THOSE EFFECTIVELY. AS MANY OTHERS HAVE COMMENTED, CONSUMPTION EMISSIONS ARE NOT ADEQUATELY ADDRESSED. UM, PARTICULARLY THE CITY'S ROLE IN REGULATING CONSTRUCTION EMISSIONS NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED MUCH MORE ROBUSTLY AS THOSE EMISSIONS ARE ROUGHLY ON A PAR WITH THOSE FROM HOUSEHOLD FUEL USE. AND THAT'S NOT REALLY CALLED OUT, UM, LARGELY BECAUSE THE, UH, CAL STUDY THAT WAS COMMISSIONED BY THE BAY AIR QUALITY MANAGEMENT DISTRICT LOOKS AT CONSUMPTION EMISSIONS THROUGH THE HOUSEHOLD LENS AND THEY PULL OUT CONSUMPTION EMISSIONS THAT AREN'T HOUSEHOLD RELATED ELSEWHERE. AND SO THEY'RE NOT DIRECTLY CORRELATED. BUT I DID A BIT OF RESEARCH ON THIS BECAUSE I'M, I LIVE IN THE CONSTRUCTION WORLD, I'M VERY CONCERNED WITH THAT. AND THAT IS WHAT I FOUND. THEY'RE BOUT ON A PAR WITH HOUSEHOLD FUEL USE. SO IT'S A BIG, BIG DEAL, AND WE HAVEN'T REALLY SAID VERY MUCH ABOUT IT. WE ALSO NEED TO FULLY COMMIT TO THE GOAL THAT WE'VE SET OUT AND STRUCTURE THE ACTION PLAN SO AS TO ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISH IT. SO IT SERIOUSLY UNDERMINES OUR EFFORT TO STATE THE GOAL AS UNREALISTIC. I THINK NON-COMMITTAL LANGUAGE SHOULD BE ELIMINATED. SO THERE'S A LOT OF CONSIDER EVALUATE, INVESTIGATE, NO, LET'S DO ALL ACTIONS SHOULD BE STATED AS WHAT'S WILL BE DONE, NOT WHAT MIGHT BE THOUGHT ABOUT. UM, AND THIS, UH, WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE NEED FOR INPUT FROM MORE EXPERTS IN THE COMMUNITY, AND I'M REALLY DELIGHTED THAT WE HAVE NOW REQUESTED INPUT FROM THE OTHER CCBS [02:15:01] AND LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING THAT. UM, BEN, I WAS INTERESTED IN ONE OF YOUR COMMENTS THAT ADAPTATION IS PART OF THE GENERAL PLAN, UH, AS ARE SOME OTHER THINGS THAT THERE'S, THEY'RE NOT WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF THE BLUEPRINT, BUT I, I RECALL AT A PRIOR MEETING, I THINK IT WAS OUR OCTOBER MEETING THAT HEATHER COMMUNICATED THAT THE REASON THAT CONTENT ISN'T IN THE BLUEPRINT, IT'S NOT BECAUSE IT'S NOT WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF A CLIMATE ACTION PLAN, BUT IT WAS BECAUSE OF A TIME CONSTRAINT THAT THE CONSULTANTS RAN OUT OF TIME AND WANTED TO GET TO US WHAT THEY COULD GET TO US WITHIN THIS TIMEFRAME. SO I, I REALLY QUESTION THAT THIS IS NOT BLUEPRINT OR CLIMATE ACTION PLAN CONTENT AND BELIEVE THAT IT SHOULD BE. SO I'LL CALL IT AT THAT AND, UH, SEED THE MIC TO MY COLLEAGUE TO MY RIGHT. THANK YOU. THAT WAS GREAT. UM, I DID A LOT OF WORK ON THE, UM, SPREADSHEET AND PUT A LOT OF COMMENTS IN THERE. AND THEN I ALSO DID TWO DOCUMENTS, UM, TAKING A WHACK AT REVISING THE SUMMARY ACTIONS, UH, UH, FOR THE, UH, LAND USE AND TRANSPORTATION CHAPTER AND FOR THE NATURAL SYSTEMS AND SEQUESTRATION CHAPTER. SO I'M NOT GONNA REITERATE ALL THAT 'CAUSE THAT'S ALREADY WRITTEN DOWN AND HAS BEEN SHARED WITH EVERYONE. UM, MOSTLY I THINK I JUST WANNA FOCUS A LITTLE BIT ON THE PURPOSE OF THE DOCUMENT AND WHETHER OR NOT IT'S SERVING ITS PURPOSE. I, I THINK AS A A, A PLAN OF THIS NATURE GOES, IT'S PRETTY DECENT. UM, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S, UM, QUITE DOING THE JOB THAT IT, THAT WE NEED IT TO DO. YOU KNOW, I THINK IN A WAY IT'S RESPONDING TO THE CITY'S DESIRE TO HAVE AN ORGANIZING DOCUMENT, BUT REALLY THE COMMUNITY NEEDS AN ORGANIZING GUIDE, YOU KNOW, AND SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE HALFWAY THERE OR PARTIALLY THERE. UM, AND, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY, UM, YOU KNOW, OTHER GROUPS COULD CREATE, KIND OF ADD-ONS TO, TO ADAPT TO THE COMMUNITY EFFORT. BUT I THINK, UM, I THINK WE'D BE BETTER SERVED TO MAKE THIS A MORE COMMUNITY FRIENDLY DOCUMENT. SOME OF THE, THE THINGS THAT ANN TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ABOUT, AND ALSO DEB USING PLAIN LANGUAGE, HAVING IT TRANSLATED INTO SPANISH. UM, I THINK INSTEAD OF GOING INTO THE REASON, SO MUCH REASON FOR CLIMATE ACTION, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. A LOT OF THAT STUFF COULD MOVE TOWARD THE BACK, BUT I REALLY THINK WE SHOULD SPEND SOME TIME TALKING ABOUT WHY THESE ACTIONS ARE GOOD FOR YOU AND YOU AND YOU AND YOU, YOU KNOW, AND WHY THEY'RE GOOD FOR YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND WHY THEY'RE GOOD FOR YOUR COMMUNITY, AND WHY THEY'RE GOOD FOR PETALUMA. 'CAUSE I DON'T THINK WE REALLY SELL THE UPSIDE MUCH, YOU KNOW? AND THIS IS A HUGE INVESTMENT. AND SO IF WE'RE ASKING A COMMUNITY TO MAKE A REALLY HUGE INVESTMENT OF ENERGY AND MONEY, WE REALLY NEED TO SELL THE BENEFITS MORE. UM, SO I DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT'S BEEN DONE ENTIRELY WELL. UM, AND THEN IN, IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, UM, GALVANIZING THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE, IT, THIS NEEDS TO ORGANIZE THE EFFORT BETTER. LIKE IT NEEDS TO SPELL OUT THE KEY PARTNERSHIPS OR THE KEY ROLE OF THE, UM, BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND THE KEY ROLE OF NGOS. AND THAT'S ALL TOUCHED UPON, BUT IT'S NOT, I DON'T KNOW, IT'S, TO ME, IT'S NOT ENOUGH OF AN ORGANIZING ACTION PLAN, YOU KNOW, LIKE ALL THE PIECES ARE THERE, BUT WHO'S GONNA PUSH IT ALL INTO MOTION? YOU KNOW, AND WHERE IS ALL THAT ENERGY COMING FROM? I JUST DON'T FEEL THAT IN THIS DOCUMENT. LIKE, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SAY IT OTHER THAN, IT'S LIKE, IN MY EXPERIENCE, IT'S LIKE YOU'RE KIND OF DEVELOPING A RECIPE, YOU KNOW? AND SO PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE RECIPE IS TO PUT IT ALL TOGETHER. AND I DON'T THINK THAT COMES ACROSS HERE. 'CAUSE PARTLY 'CAUSE IT'S SO TECHNICAL. THERE'S ALL THESE CHAPTERS AND BITS AND BOBS AND YOU'RE TRYING TO, LIKE, YOUR BRAIN'S GOING THAT, YOU KNOW, SO I FEEL LIKE THERE, THERE SHOULD BE AN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY OR SOMETHING THAT SAYS, OKAY, HERE'S THE RECIPE, YOU KNOW, AND THESE ARE THE PARTS WE KNOW WE HAVE TO DO, AND WE KNOW WE HAVE TO DO THESE BY THIS PERIOD OF TIME, YOU KNOW, AND THESE ARE THE PARTS THAT WE'RE NOT SURE ABOUT. SO WE'RE GONNA TRY ON IN DIFFERENT, WE'RE GONNA TRY THEM OUT, YOU KNOW, IN DIFFERENT THINGS. BUT THAT'S, TO ME, A MISSING PIECE IS AN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY THAT KIND OF REALLY EXPLAINS THAT IN PLAIN LANGUAGE, LIKE HOW WE'RE GOING ABOUT THIS TASK. UM, UM, AND I, I WONDER, YOU KNOW, THIS IS MORE OF A WONDERING THING, BUT I, I DO FEEL LIKE THERE'S, UM, THERE'S PART OF IT WHERE IT'S LIKE, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF IT WAS MORE GEOGRAPHICALLY [02:20:01] LOCATED, OR IF THERE WAS CERTAIN THINGS THAT WERE HAPPENING IN CERTAIN COUNCIL MEMBER DISTRICTS OR THAT CERTAIN PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY WERE REALLY FOCUSED ON AND GALVANIZED AND TAKING PRIDE IN, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE WHEN IT'S THIS KIND OF LIKE, OH, WE'RE ALL DOING THIS THING TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO KIND OF LATCH ONTO LIKE, OH, YOU KNOW, CASA GRANDE IS ROCKING THIS PART OF IT, YOU KNOW? AND SO-AND-SO IS ROCKING THAT PART OF IT. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHAT EXCITES PEOPLE. AND THEN YOU GET THINGS MOVING ALONG AND PEOPLE START TO GO, OH, , I COULD BE DOING THIS. OR, YOU KNOW, GEE, HERE'S MY ROLE. YOU KNOW? AND I DON'T KNOW, I, I'M JUST SPEAKING OFF THE CUFF, BUT I, I FEEL LIKE SOME OF THAT'S MISSING HERE. AND, AND A LOT OF IT IS PARTLY BECAUSE IT'S HARD AS A CONSULTANT TO WRITE SOMETHING FOR A COMMUNITY WHERE YOU DON'T LIVE OR KNOW ALL THE ACTORS AND STUFF. AND SO THAT'S THE PART THAT WE HAVE TO, TO FILL IN, YOU KNOW? UM, WE HAVE TO KINDA GET THE MAGIC IN THERE. SO, YEAH, MORE LATER, BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I HAVE TO SHARE TONIGHT. HI, I AM AMY ASHLEY. UM, JUST FIRST, I'LL QUICKLY ECHO THAT. I APPRECIATE ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS THAT WERE, UM, A PART OF MAKING THIS, UH, PLAN. UM, I THINK IT'S EXCITING AND INSPIRING, AND I'M PROUD TO LIVE IN PETALUMA. UM, SO I HAVE, UH, MY COMMENTS WRITTEN DOWN, SO I'LL SHARE THEM WITH YOU. I GET THE HONOR OF BEING LAST . UM, SO MANY COMMENTS THAT I READ WERE ASKING FOR EARLIER TIMELINES. AND SO I WOULD ASK THE CITY AND REMY TO MOVE THOSE TIMELINES, TIMELINES UP, UP AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO, AND GIVE MORE EXACT DATES. UM, A QUESTION, HOW DO WE BEST COMMUNICATE AND COLLABORATE SO WE AREN'T DOUBLING OUR EFFORTS AND COSTS? THESE ARE ALL JUST SORT OF LIKE GENERAL ALL OVER THE, THAT I SAW ALL OVER, LIKE THEMES. UM, WE NEED TO ADD A SPECIFIC SECTION ABOUT COLLABORATION AND ENGAGEMENT. I HAVE MORE ON THAT LATER. UM, BUT IT'S GONNA, THIS PLAN IS GONNA STRUGGLE TO ADEQUATELY, UM, PERFORM IF WE'RE NOT ENGAGING THE COMMUNITY AND COLLABORATING. UM, I DON'T THINK THAT ADDING A SECTION IS WORTH HOLDING THE, THIS, UH, PROCESS UP FOR, BUT, UM, I KNOW THAT IT'S A LIVING DOCUMENT, AND SO I WOULD SAY WE CAN KEEP GOING AND, UM, WORK ON THAT. BUT I'LL, I'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT, UH, LATER, MORE SPECIFICALLY. UM, AND THEN A QUESTION, HOW'S THE CITY GONNA COORDINATE THE STAFF FOR SOME OF THESE EFFORTS? LIKE, IS, IS THERE GONNA BE A STAFF PERSON WHOSE JOB IT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT, LIKE, WE'RE COMMUNICATING BETWEEN BODIES, UM, SIMILARLY, HOW CAN WE LEVERAGE VARIOUS FUNDING SOURCES? UM, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, SOME FUNDING THAT'S WRITTEN IN THERE, BUT, UM, IF THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A STAFF PERSON THAT COULD, UM, JUST KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND KEEP TABS. THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO WRITE ALL THE FUNDING, YOU KNOW, APPLICATIONS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT JUST LIKE A SOURCE THAT, YOU KNOW, SORT OF A, A HUB OF A PERSON. UM, I'D LOVE TO SEE SOME MORE, SOME THOUGHTFUL GRAPHICS INCLUDED ABOUT THE OVERALL IMPACT AND COSTS OF THESE ACTIONS. WE DISCUSSED DURING THE LAST MEETING, UM, YOU KNOW, THE CHANGE TO ELECTRIC CARS, AND IT TALKED ABOUT THE, THE COST OF ELECTRIC CARS AND HOW IT'S MORE THAN, YOU KNOW, GAS POWERED CARS. BUT, UM, THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF SAVINGS ASSOCIATED WITH ELECTRIC CARS. AND, UM, SO THE DELTA BETWEEN GAS AND ELECTRIC MAY ACTUALLY BE IN FAVOR OF ELECTRIC CARS, UM, AS IT WAS IN MY FAMILY, IN MY BUSINESS, UM, THAT KIND OF THING. AND THEN HOW DO WE KEEP OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE TO THESE GOALS? UM, THERE ARE A LOT OF GOALS IN HERE, SO YEAH, THAT'S A QUESTION THAT I'M, I'M, I'M HEARING OTHER PEOPLE ASK. UM, THE OTHER THING, THIS IS SORT OF ECHOING, SOMEONE ELSE SAID EARLIER THAT THIS IS AN EMERGENCY, AND SO ALL ALLOCATIONS OF FUNDING AND TIME SHOULD BE IMPACT BASED. UM, OF COURSE, LET'S DO IT ALL IF WE CAN, BUT WE MAY NEED TO TRIAGE SO THAT WE'RE HAVING THE BIGGEST IMPACT FOR OUR TIME AND MONEY. UM, I HAVE SOME SPECIFIC COMMENTS ABOUT THE ENERGY. SONOMA CLEAN POWER'S EVERGREEN PLAN IS LOW HANGING FRUIT. UM, SO INCREASING, INCREASING ADOPTION FOR THAT SHOULD BE A HIGH PRIORITY. WE HAVE, THERE'S A, THERE'S A GOAL IN THERE, BUT I THINK IT COULD BE FASTER AND BIGGER. UM, WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT IS CRUCIAL. THIS IS ACROSS ALL EVERYWHERE. UM, HOW, JUST A QUESTION. HOW CAN WE WORK WITH HIGH SCHOOLS, THE JC AND ORGANIZATIONS LIKE NEXT GEN TRADES TO INCREASE OUR EDUCATIONAL PATHWAYS FOR A FULLY ELECTRIFIED FUTURE? UM, I THINK WE COULD INVESTIGATE COMMUNITY MICROGRIDS MORE TO GIVE US MORE LOCAL CONTROL. UM, WE HAVE OUR STATE ASSEMBLYMEN AND THE CEO OF SONOMA CLEAN POWER ARE BOTH ON BOARD FOR THAT. UM, [02:25:01] SO MAYBE PUTTING A PILOT IN THE PLAN WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA. UM, WE DEFINITELY NEED TO ESTABLISH BACKUP ENERGY SOURCES FOR EMERGENCY CENTERS FOR DISASTERS SUCH AS EXTREME HEAT, FIRE, AND FLOOD. UM, I KNOW THIS, THERE'S SOME TALK ABOUT ELECTRIC BUSES, UM, WHICH COULD BE BACKUP POWER. UM, IF WE'RE, WE'RE USING ELECTRIC CITY BUSES, ELECTRIC, UH, SCHOOL BUSES, THEN WHEN THEY'RE SITTING, THEY CAN, THEY CAN BE BATTERIES. UM, AND THEN AGAIN, ALL ALLOCATIONS OF FUNDING SHOULD BE IMPACT BASED, UM, UNDER CONSUMPTION. I JUST HAVE FOUR POINTS. UH, GENERALLY I THINK IT UNDER ADDRESSES THE CONSUMPTION BASED EMISSIONS THAT WE HAVE HERE IN PETALUMA. UM, I THINK FOR PROBABLY THE WHOLE WORLD, CONSUMPTION BASED EMISSIONS IS, OR AT LEAST THE US, UM, IS THE LARGEST SOURCE OF EMISSIONS. UM, THAT'S JUST A GENERAL COMMENT I DON'T HAVE A SOLUTION FOR. BUT, UM, YEAH. UH, AND THEN OF COURSE, WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, AGAIN, UNDER CONSUMPTION. UM, COULD WE BE TEACHING HIGH SCHOOL KIDS OR JC KIDS, LIKE FIX IT CLASSES FOR THINGS LIKE CLOTHES AND APPLIANCES AND ELECTRONICS. UM, FOR EXAMPLE, IF MY VACUUM BROKE, I WOULD JUST GET A NEW ONE. BUT IF I KNEW SOMEBODY THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THERE WAS LIKE LITTLE PLACE DOWNTOWN I COULD TAKE IT AND, YOU KNOW, SOME SENIOR IN HIGH SCHOOL WAS, WAS, YOU KNOW, FIXING IT AS PART OF HIS, YOU KNOW, INTERNSHIP OR SOMETHING, THEN I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO THAT. UM, INSTEAD OF BUYING ANYONE, UM, MORE FOCUS ON FOOD WASTE MANAGEMENT, SUCH AS LIKE PETALUMA BOUNTY COMPOSTING SCHOOLS TO WASTE FARMS, UM, REFRIGERATION UPGRADES. THOSE ARE LIKE A LOT OF, A LOT OF MESSAGES I WAS HEARING AND READING. UM, ENCOURAGE. UM, SO ENCOURAGING REPURPOSING BUSINESSES LIKE THIS IS RELATED TO WHAT I WAS JUST SAYING ABOUT THE VACUUM. UM, BUT THINGS LIKE RECYCLE TOWN, BETA SAL SALVAGE IN SANTA ROSA, HERITAGE SALVAGE HERE IN PETALUMA, HABITAT FOR HUMANITY HAS A REUSE STORE IN OAKLAND AND SANTA ROSA. LIKE ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF IS SUPER VALUABLE. BUT, UM, WE ALSO NEED, IF WE'RE GONNA BE PROMOTING THOSE KIND OF THINGS, REUSING MATERIALS, LIKE BUILDING MATERIALS, WE NEED TO ENCOURAGE, ENCOURAGE THE TARGET CUSTOMERS FOR THAT. SO LIKE A CONTRACTOR, HOW CAN A CONTRACTOR BENEFIT FROM USING THOSE, UM, THOSE THINGS. UM, 'CAUSE IT IS, EVEN THOUGH IT'S LIKE THE RIGHT THING TO DO, IT'S LIKE MORE EXPENSIVE AND DIFFICULT FOR A CONTRACTOR TO USE, YOU KNOW, REUSE STUFF. SO HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE WORK WITH THAT? UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, SUPPORTING LOW WASTE BUSINESSES, LIKE THE RE THE REFILL STORE, UM, PERHAPS ADOPTING AN ORDINANCE FOR RE REUSABLE FOOD WARE. UM, OKAY. AND THEN MY LAST POINT IS ABOUT THE COMMUNITY COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. UM, I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE THE ADDITION OF AN EIGHTH ACTION PLAN FOR THE BLUEPRINT IN COLLABORATION WITH THE CLIMATE ACTION, UH, PETALUMA GROUP. WE'VE BRAINSTORMED WHAT THIS SECTION MIGHT LOOK LIKE, I KNOW, UM, THAT HAS BEEN SENT OUT. UM, BUT AS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WILL BE ESSENTIAL TO THE SUCCESS OF THIS AMBITIOUS PLAN. AND AS ENGAGEMENT WAS ONE OF THE FOUR PILLARS FOR THE FRAMEWORK AND CITED AS ESSENTIAL. AND AS THE FRAMEWORK ALSO CALLS FOR THE FORMATION OF AN EQUITABLE CLIMATE ACTION NETWORK TO PROVIDE A PLACE FOR CONSISTENT COORDINATION. AND AS WE ENGAGED MANY, UM, SORRY, AS WE HAVE MANY ENGAGED CITIZENS ALREADY WORKING EVERY DAY ON THESE MANY ISSUES, AND AT TIMES DUPLICATING EFFORTS LIKE DATA COLLECTION. AND WE WILL NEED TO CONTINUE GROWING THE NUMBER OF ACTIVE AND INFORMED CITIZENS PARTICIPANTS IN ORDER TO MEET, OR I SHOULD SAY RESIDENT PARTICIPANTS IN ORDER TO MEET OR EXCEED THESE GOALS. AND AS LACK OF TIME OR MONEY, TIME AND MONEY CAN BE THE DEMISE OF ANY BEST INTENTIONS. I RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY INCLUDE AN EIGHTH ACTION PLAN FOR THE BLUEPRINT LINING OUT A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PLAN. UM, AS I SAID, I DON'T RECOMMEND THAT THE PASSING OF THIS BLUEPRINT BE POSTPONED IN ORDER TO ADD THIS SECTION, BUT RATHER THE PLAN SHOULD BE PASSED WHEN IT'S READY WITH THE UPDATES. AND, UM, SINCE IT'S A FLUID DOCUMENT, IT CAN BE ADDED IN THE NEXT THREE TO SIX MONTHS, GIVING TIME FOR STAKEHOLDERS TO DRAFT AND REVISE THE NEW SECTION. UM, SO I HAVE TWO LIKE MAIN POINTS ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY, UM, ENGAGEMENT PLAN. UM, ONE IS THAT WE NEED SOME KIND OF CENTRALIZING INFORMATION HUB TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE EXACTLY WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP. UM, IT COULD BE PROBABLY SHOULD BE BOTH DIGITAL AND IN PERSON. UM, A GOOD EXAMPLE IS WHAT SONOMA CLEAN POWER HAS DONE WITH THE ADVANCED ADVANCED ENERGY CENTER. UM, BUT ALSO, UH, WE WOULD NEED LIKE, LIKE A PERSON, UH, HOPE, YOU KNOW, PREFERABLY A DEDICATED STAFF PERSON TO CONNECT AND COMMUNICATE FOR MORE SMOOTH, EFFICIENT AND SYNERGISTIC IMPLEMENTATION ACROSS STAKEHOLDERS. UM, SO AN EXAMPLE THAT'S CLOSE TO HOME IS LIKE, IF THERE'S SOMEBODY IN PETALUMA THAT NEEDS A NEW ROOF, AND THEY'RE LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE BEST ROOF FIRST WATER CATCHMENT? WHAT'S THE BEST ROOF FOR ZERO WASTE? LIKE, SHOULD I GET SOLAR ON IT? HOW DO I AFFORD IT? ALL OF THESE THINGS RIGHT NOW, [02:30:01] UM, PEOPLE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, JUST FIGURE IT OUT THEMSELVES WITH, YOU KNOW, NO, YOU KNOW, WHO DO I, WHO DO I TRUST WHAT THEY'RE SAYING TO ME? UM, BUT IF THERE WAS LIKE A CENTRAL LOCATION TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. UM, ANOTHER EXAMPLE WOULD BE LIKE, SUSAN KIRK EMAILED US TODAY. UM, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO BE IMPROVING THEIR LAND, HOW CAN THEY BEST WORK WITH THE GOALS OF THE BLUEPRINT IN ORDER TO KEEP THE ECOSYSTEM AND THE HABITAT AND THE WILDLIFE CORRIDORS, UM, AS WELL AS CARBON SEQUESTRATION IN MIND FOR DOING THAT. UM, SO THE, THE, THE FIRST PART THAT I JUST TALKED ABOUT WAS LIKE A HUB. SO, YOU KNOW, DIGITAL HUB, PERSON HUB. UM, THE SECOND IS THAT WE NEED A PLAN TO, UM, EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY. UM, WE'RE REALLY GOOD AT EVENTS IN PETALUMA, BUT HOW CAN THESE EVENTS HELP US CREATE THE CULTURE AND INFORM THE CHOICES WE NEED OUR COMMUNITY TO MAKE? UM, CAN WE BE USING, UM, MIXED MEDIUMS TO REACH PEOPLE OF ALL LIFESTYLES? SO AN INSTAGRAM PAGE, MAYBE IT CAN BE MANNED BY HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS, A WEEKLY ARTICLE IN THE ARGUS COURIER HIGHLIGHTING THINGS LIKE IMPORTANT EVENTS, MILESTONES, REMINDERS, LOCAL CLIMATE HEROES, UM, THAT COULD EVEN POTENTIALLY BE PRODUCED BY HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS. UM, A LOCAL PODCAST HIGHLIGHTING THE SAME THINGS. MAYBE ONE WEEK IT'S ABOUT SWITCHING TO HEAT PUMPS AND ANOTHER WEEK IT'S DISCUSSING OR PROMOTING A CLIMATE FOCUSED FILM FESTIVAL. UM, ALL SORTS OF IDEAS, BUT THAT I, I, IT WILL BE ESSENTIAL TO HAVE TO ENGAGE PEOPLE AND INFORM PEOPLE IF WE WANT TO ACTUALLY MAKE THIS THING LIVE. YOU KNOW, IF IT'S GONNA STAY ON THE PAGE, THAT'S ONE THING, BUT WE DON'T WANT IT TO STAY ON THE PAGE. WE WANNA BE ACTUALLY BUILDING THIS THING. UM, SO IT'S INSTINCTUALLY NECESSARY, IS WHAT I'M SAYING. , UM, I THINK WE CAN SAY WITHOUT, WITHOUT SUFFICIENT BUY-IN AND PARTICIPATION, WE WILL FALL SHORT. HOWEVER, WITH AN EXPLICIT PLAN AND IDENTIFIED CENTER FOR OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, WITH THAT PLAN, WE CAN FOSTER AN ENTHUSIASTIC, INFORMED, AND ACTIVE PUBLIC. UM, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I GOT. THANK YOU. GREAT. UM, THANK YOU EVERYONE. AGAIN, I THINK THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A BIT OF BACK AND FORTH IS, WASN'T INTENDED TO BE AT THIS MEETING AND JUST READING THE ROOM. I THINK WE'RE A LITTLE BIT RUNNING OUTTA JUICE HERE. I THINK THE PROCESS CONVERSATION REALLY ZAPPED US A LITTLE BIT. BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I WILL SAY ON THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PLAN, I REALLY LIKE THE IDEA. I REALLY, UH, AGREE. IT'S MAYBE LIKE AN ADD-ON OR SOMETHING ELSE. I THINK AT SOME POINT WE SHOULD HAVE A SERIOUS DISCUSSION ABOUT LIKE WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A LIVING DOCUMENT AND IF THAT'S ACTUALLY IN OUR BEST INTEREST OR IF WE JUST HAVE A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT DOCUMENT AND IT'S SEPARATE THAN THE BLUEPRINT AND THAT'S FINE. SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK WE'RE BEHOLDEN TO THE IDEA THAT IT'S A LIVING DOCUMENT. UM, CERTAINLY HAVING GONE AND READ THE LIKE 2015 CLIMATE ACTION PLAN AND THE 2008 ACTION PLAN, YOU KNOW, THEY LIKE ALL ASPIRE TO BE LIVING DOCUMENTS, I TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, WE DO A NEW ONE EVERY FIVE YEARS. AND SO, YOU KNOW, LET'S GO IN WITH EYES WIDE OPEN ON THAT, BUT RECOGNIZE THAT WE DO NEED A LEGITIMATE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EFFORT. UM, SIMILARLY ON THE ADAPTATION PIECE, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN SHOEHORN IN ADAPTATION INTO THIS, GREAT, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M CERTAINLY WANT THE TOPIC OF ADAPTATION TO BE FRONT AND CENTER. UM, YOU KNOW, EVEN AT THE LAST MEETING, UM, WHAT'S HIS NAME, BRUCE, YOU KNOW, IS LIKE, OH, THIS IS A WASTE OF TIME. WE NEED TO BE FOCUSED ON ADAPTATION. YOU KNOW, AND IT'S NOT LIKE HE'S WRONG, YOU KNOW, BUT THE TASK WE WERE GIVEN AS COMMISSION MEMBERS IS, IS FOR THIS DOCUMENT. AND SO ADAPTATION IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO TAKE ON. UH, IN ADDITION TO THAT, AND SEPARATE FROM THIS EFFORT, SOMEWHAT SEPARATE, AT LEAST, UH, I'LL MAKE THE FINAL POINT ON THIS PARTICULAR ASPECT IS THAT THE ADVICE WAS GIVEN TO ME THAT THE GENERAL PLAN IS A MUCH MORE IMPORTANT DOCUMENT FROM A DECISION MAKING PERSPECTIVE. AND SO IF WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CRAFT SECTIONS THAT ARE IN THE GENERAL PLAN VERSUS IN THE CLIMATE BLUEPRINT, IT MIGHT SERVE OUR INTEREST IN DOING SO. SO JUST TO REITERATE THAT POINT, THE BLUEPRINT IS SORT OF A TECHNICAL DOCUMENT NECESSARY FOR SE PURPOSES AND ALSO TO GUIDE OUR EFFORTS, WHEREAS THE GENERAL PLAN IS A PLANNING DOCUMENT, WHICH HELPS GUIDE DECISION MAKING AND THEREFORE MAY BE A MORE IMPORTANT DOCUMENT. AND SO IF WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK ON ADAPTATION AND THAT OPPORTUNITY IS GIVEN US, GIVEN TO US TO DO IT IN THE GENERAL PLAN, UH, THAT MAY BE WISE TO CONSIDER THAT OPPORTUNITY. UH, WITH THAT BEING SAID, ANY OTHER [02:35:01] COMMENTARY ON THE COMMENTS OR FEEDBACK? OKAY. UM, THE FINAL TWO ASPECTS OF THE MEETING TONIGHT, THE FIRST IS [COMMITTEE COMMENT] COMMISSIONER COMMENT. SO COMMISSIONER COMMENTS ARE FOR SHARING UPDATES FROM ACTIVITIES OUTSIDE OF CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION MEETINGS THAT ARE RELEVANT TO THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION SCOPE AND OR TO MAKE SUGGESTIONS ON FUTURE MEETING TOPICS. COUNCIL MEMBER SHRI. OKAY. SINCE I WAS, UH, LAST HERE, THERE'S, UM, UH, NOT MUCH IN THE, UM, COUNCIL THAT, THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW IS, IS VERY IMPORTANT MOVING FORWARD. BUT I DID ATTEND TWO OTHER MEETINGS WITH, UH, WEBINAR TYPES. AND ANOTHER ONE, UH, SESSIONS I NEED TO, UH, LET YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT IS DIRECTLY RELATED TO WHAT WE WERE WORKING ON. UM, ONE WAS A, UM, INTERNATIONAL WEBINAR ON OCEAN ACIDIFICATION AND THE CURRENT STATUS. UM, AND IT WAS BASED IN ENGLAND, UM, MULTIPLE COUNTRIES AND, UM, HIGH LEVEL FOLKS WERE PARTICIPATING IN IT. AND, UM, IT IS, OCEAN ACIDIFICATION IS MUCH WORSE THAN, THAN EXPECTED AND EXPECTED TO GET MUCH WORSE EVEN THAN ALL MODELING IS SHOWING RIGHT NOW. AND THERE'S CONSEQUENCES ARE ALREADY, UH, BEING, THE RESEARCHERS ARE FINDING THAT THERE'S CONSEQUENCES RIGHT NOW FOR OCEAN ACIDIFICATION IN VARIOUS PLACES. AND, UH, HAVING ENGLAND, UM, BE RESPONSIBLE FOR A LOT OF THE ISLANDS OUT IN THE PACIFIC. AND, AND EVEN IN SOME, IN THE ATLANTIC THAT, UH, ONES IN THE PACIFIC, UH, THEY'RE NOTICING THERE IN THE, UM, THE SHALLOWS, THAT THE ACIDIFICATION HAS HIGHER IMPACTS, UH, TO THE ORGANISMS THERE. SO OCEAN ACIDIFICATION IS SOMETHING TO WATCH. WE NEED TO PUT MORE RESEARCH INTO IT BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S GONNA TURN OUT TO BE A, A HIGHER LEVEL THING, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S COMBINED WITH OCEAN TEMPERATURE, THE TWO TOGETHER, UM, CHANGING THE, UH, OCEAN FOOD WET. AND SO, UM, HIGHER IMPACTS, IT'S NOT A LONG-TERM THING THAT'S WAY DOWN THE ROAD. IT'S ACTUALLY STARTING TO, WE'RE ACTUALLY LIKE WE'RE SEEING NOW WITH OUR FOREST FIRES AND HURRICANES, OCEAN CITY IS HAVING A SIMILAR IMPACT THAT MAY BE EVEN STATEMENTS WERE BEING MADE. THE OCEANS MAY BE AFFECTED EVEN MORE THAN THE LAND BY WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH, WITH, UH, UH, CARBON, UH, WITH FOSSIL FUELS. SO, UH, JUST BE, BE AWARE OF THAT. SO WE NEED TO SAVE THE OCEANS AS WELL AS OURSELVES AT THIS POINT. THE, UM, THE OTHER TALK WAS GIVEN BY THE DIRECTOR OF, UM, SAN FRANCISCO ESTUARY INSTITUTE, A PREEMINENT, UH, SCIENCE ORGANIZATION HERE IN THE BAY AREA. UM, AND HE WAS TRYING TO GIVE US AN OVERVIEW TO THE WATERSHED, UH, REGIONAL WATERSHED COMMITTEE, UM, ABOUT WHERE WE ARE AT AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO, AND SEA LEVEL RISE. JUST TALKING ABOUT THE THREE FEET THAT'S EXPECTED THAT, THAT'S PROBABLY NOT STOPPABLE AT THIS POINT, THAT'S COMING TO US BEFORE 2100, UH, MAYBE MUCH SOONER THAN THAT. SO ONCE WE JUST THREE LEVEL FOOT RISE, UM, WE HAVE $276 BILLION WORTH OF ASSETS, MOSTLY ROADS, SOME HOUSING BUILDINGS AND THE LIKE, BUT MOSTLY ROADS, UM, THAT ARE AT RISK OF, OF FAILING DUE TO SEA LEVEL RISE. AND THAT TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM WITH, UM, THE NO SCIENTIFICALLY WITH, WITH MOVING SEDIMENT AROUND AND, AND, AND REBUILDING, SAYS WE CAN JUST MOVE BACK AND, AND BUILD UP. BUT THAT'S GONNA BE EVEN MORE EXPENSIVE THAN, THAN THAT. UM, BUT TO PROTECT THAT IS GONNA TAKE AT LEAST A HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS OF SEDIMENT MOVEMENT HERE IN THE BAY AREA, UH, TO, TO HELP PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING. UM, SO TO SAVE OUR $276 BILLION WORTH OF ASSETS, UH, THAT'S OUR WATER TREATMENT PLANTS ARE ALL MAYBE AT RISK. A LOT OF 'EM ARE IN THE BAY AREA AS WELL AS ROADS, PIERS, HARBORS, AND THE LIKE. SO WHEN YOU NEED TO COMBINE THAT ALL TOGETHER, VERY COSTLY. SO, UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA HAPPEN ANYWAY NO MATTER WHAT WE DO. UM, SO WE HAVE TO PROVE FOR THAT AND THEN HOPEFULLY PREVENT IT FROM GOING WORSE THAN THAT BECAUSE WE COULD, UM, END UP WITH A 10, 10 FOOT SEA LEVEL RISE IF WE KEEP GOING THE WAY WE'RE GOING ACTUALLY. SO THAT'S, UM, PRETTY SEVERE WARNING THAT WE'RE BEING GIVEN, UM, EVEN MORE OF A CRISIS AN EMERGENCY THAN WHAT'S BEING STATED. OCEANS ARE AT MORE SEVERE RISK THAN, THAN WE ARE AT LAND. AGAIN, THAT'S, THAT'S BASICALLY THE MESSAGE THAT I, UH, WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU. NO COMMENT FROM ME. OKAY. ANY BAKER, ASHLEY? OKAY. ANY, OKAY. LET'S TALK LOUD HERE. YOU CAN BORROW MY, OH, THANKS. IT'S OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO, UM, REQUEST THAT WE PUT ON THE AGENDA A [02:40:01] DISCUSSION ABOUT PROVIDING REMOTE ACCESS TO THESE MEETINGS. AND, UM, I WOULD JUST ANNOUNCE THAT, UM, THE CPUC RECENTLY, UM, FOR THE, FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE, WHO KNOW ABOUT SOLAR, UM, IN APRIL, THEY DECIDED THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PAYBACK FOR SOLAR THROUGH THE UTILITIES WOULD BE LESS, YOU KNOW, IT WAS KIND OF A BAD THING. AND, UM, THEY JUST NOW, UM, ANNOUNCED THAT NOW THEY'RE GONNA EXTEND THAT TO COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, PROPERTIES THAT HAVE MULTIMETERS, SO LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, APARTMENTS AND THEN AL ALSO AGRICULTURAL PROPERTIES. SO THAT'S KIND OF A BUMMER. , THERE'S SOME NEWS FOR YOU. OKAY. UM, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE BRIGHT SPOTS, I GUESS. UM, THE TRANSIT COMMITTEE DOES MEET TODAY AT 4:00 PM SO IF YOU WANNA BE IN HERE FOR MULTIPLE HOURS, YOU DO GET A BIT OF GOOD NEWS SOMETIMES. UM, THEY DID A PRESENTATION ON RIDERSHIP OF THE BUS SYSTEM AND THE YOUTH RIDERSHIP IS UP SIGNIFICANTLY. UH, THAT'S, I THINK, SOMEWHAT CORRELATED TO THE FREE FARES, AND I THINK THEY'RE PLANNING ON CONTINUING THAT. SO AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THE EFFORTS THAT WE'RE ALL DISCUSSING HERE IS SOMEHOW IN THE HANDS OF OUR YOUTH AND THEY ARE STEPPING UP AND RIDING THE BUS, AND I THINK WE CAN ENCOURAGE THAT MORE AND MORE. UH, AND THEY ALSO, UH, MOVED THE RECOMMENDATION TO PURCHASE, UH, OUR ELECTRIC BUSES. SO, UH, ALMOST $5 MILLION FOR FOUR ELECTRIC BUSES, AND THAT'LL MAKE ITS WAY BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL, AND WE ALREADY ARE WORKING ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THAT. THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE DISCUSSED IN THIS CHAMBER. AND SO, YOU KNOW, A BIT OF GOOD NEWS ON THAT FRONT. UH, I DID MENTION THE, UH, CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM ON THE RECOMMENDATION IS START PURCHASING RENEWABLE DIESEL. THAT'S, AGAIN, SOMETHING THE, UH, SCHOOL DISTRICT IS ALREADY DOING AND SOMETHING THAT OUR CITY IS GOING TO START DOING. AND PRETTY SOON WE WILL BE, UM, DISCUSSING RENEWABLE AVIATION FUEL FOR OUR AIRPORT. UH, THAT LAST BIT IS JUST MY PERSONAL RECOMMENDATION, BUT I THINK EVENTUALLY WE'LL GET THERE. UM, WITH [STAFF COMMENT] THAT, I'LL LEAVE IT FOR PATRICK FOR STAFF COMMENT. MY TURN. , CAN I BORROW YOURS NOW? THIS TIME? WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE PROMOTING THE SHARING ECONOMY HERE BY, UH, SHARING OUR MICROPHONES. UM, I DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION LIKE, UH, RIHANNA WOULD NORMALLY GIVE HERE, BUT I CAN GIVE A COUPLE OF HIGHLIGHTS BECAUSE THEY'RE WITHIN MY, UH, WELL REALM OF KNOWLEDGE AND KIND OF, UH, WORK, UH, PRODUCT. UM, I, I'M SURE CHAIR PETERS IS TRACKING THESE VERY CLOSELY, 'CAUSE HE IS MADE COMMENTS ON THESE, UM, MANY TIMES IN THE PAST. BUT THE CITY, UH, HAS AN AGREEMENT WITH FOREFRONT POWER TO INSTALL SOLAR PANELS ON CITY FACILITIES. THERE'S FOUR OF THEM UN UNDER THAT CONTRACT, AND THAT'S AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER. UM, IF YOU'VE NOTICED THE FENCING AROUND THE COMMUNITY CENTER, THAT'S WHY, AND I THINK THAT THERE'S EVEN POLES UP NOW WITH MAYBE SOME PANELS ON TOP OF THEM. IT HAPPENED REALLY QUICK. UM, THE FENCING'S STILL GONNA NEED TO STAY UP FOR, UH, A FEW MORE, UM, MONTHS, UM, AS THEY DO ALL THE UNDERGROUND WORK TO GET IT TO CONNECTED TO THE BUILDING. SO EVEN THOUGH YOU MAY SEE THOSE PANELS UP THERE AND THINK, AH, IT'S WORKING, IT, THERE'S STILL SOME OTHER THINGS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN BEHIND THE SCENES BEFORE WE CAN OPEN THAT AREA BACK UP. UM, BUT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, FINALLY I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF US THAT ARE SAYING FINALLY IT'S, IT'S HAPPENING. UM, BUT THAT SHOULD BE, UM, OPEN AND ONLINE, UH, THIS NEXT SPRING AND PRODUCING POWER, UM, I THINK OVER 80%, SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 80 AND 90% OF THE COMMUNITY CENTER, THE WATERFIELD OFFICE, THE SENIOR CENTER, AND ALL THE LUCCHESE FIELDS, ALL THE ENERGY THAT'S BEING USED IN THAT WHOLE AREA IS GONNA BE OFFSET BY THOSE SOLAR PANELS THAT ARE ALSO GONNA BE PROVIDING SHADE, UM, FOR THE CARS THAT PARK UNDERNEATH IT. UM, SO THAT'S EXCITING. BUT WE'RE ALSO, UM, AT THE COMMUNITY SPORTS FIELD, UM, THERE'S ALSO PANELS GOING UP THERE. UM, IT'S A FEW OFF OF EAST WASHINGTON. UH, GO TO THE SPORTS FIELD. YOU CAN SEE THERE'S ANOTHER FENCED OFF AREA THERE WHERE WE HAVE SOLAR PANELS LITERALLY BEING INSTALLED AS WELL. NOT NOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT WORKING THIS LATE. BUT, UH, BUT, UM, DURING, YEAH, EARLIER THIS WEEK THEY WERE GOING UP THE OTHER TWO LOCATIONS, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UM, WE'RE, WE HAD SOME ISSUES WORKING BACK AND FORTH WITH PG E ON THE TRANSFORMER PLACEMENT OF THAT, BUT I THINK WE'RE GETTING REALLY CLOSE TO A [02:45:01] SOLUTION ON THAT. SO LATER, NEXT YEAR, UM, HOPEFULLY IN THE SPRING, THAT PROCESS WILL START, UM, WITH COMPLETION, UM, WITHIN 2024, HOPEFULLY WITHIN THE SUMMER. AND THE SWIM CENTER IS THE FOURTH LOCATION. UM, PG E NEEDS TO DO SUBSTATION UPGRADES ON THAT, WHICH IS REALLY DELAYED THAT PROCESS. UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING ALL THAT WE CAN TO SPEED THAT UP AS WE CAN PIVOTING FROM THAT. UM, WE'RE STILL WORKING ON HAVING A FIVE MEGAWATT PLUS, UH, ABOUT FIVE AND A HALF MEGAWATT, UH, SYSTEM FLOATING ON TOP OF OUR, UH, WATER PO OUR RETENTION PONDS AT THE ELLIS CREEK RECYCLING FACILITY. SO THAT'S VERY EXCITING. THAT'S GONNA OFFSET 95 PLUS PERCENT OF THE, UH, ELECTRICITY USED BY THAT PLANT, WHICH IS ONE OF OUR HIGHEST ELECTRICITY USERS. UM, SAVING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS PER YEAR. UM, SO THAT'S A REALLY EXCITING PRO, UH, PROJECT THAT'S, UH, STILL UNDERWAY. UM, AND THEN SHIFTING GEARS COMPLETELY FROM THOSE PROJECTS. UM, I UNDERSTAND, AND I, I THINK RIHANNA CONFIRMED IT, UM, THAT OUR YOUTH, UH, MEMBER, UM, JULIA, UM, HAS FORMERLY RESIGNED, UM, FROM THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION. SO, UM, JUST LETTING YOU ALL KNOW, UM, THAT, THAT, UH, VACANCY WILL EXIST AND, UH, WE WILL TALK WITH THE CITY CLERK ABOUT, UM, RECRUITMENT FOR THAT, UM, IN THE, AT A FUTURE DATE. UH, I DO NOT KNOW THAT DATE, BUT, UH, SOMETIMES THEY CONSOLIDATE, SOMETIMES THEY DO SPECIAL RECRUITMENTS. I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON THAT RIGHT NOW. THAT CONCLUDES MY STAFF COMMENTS, AND THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 9:24 PM. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. 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