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GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE REGULAR MEETING
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OF THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE FOR THURSDAY, JANUARY 25TH, 2024.UH, MURIEL, WILL WE TAKE THE ROLL CALL PLEASE? COMMITTEE MEMBER COLE DI PRESENT COMMITTEE MEMBER MOORING HERE.
TODAY WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE CITY OF PETALUMA, SORRY, CHAIR, UH, WE STILL HAVE A COUPLE MORE PEOPLE TO GO THROUGH.
UH, COMMITTEE MEMBER D***S HERE.
TODAY WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT OUR CITY OF PETALUMA COMMITTEE WORK INVOLVES THE UNSEATED LAND THAT IS THE ANCESTRAL HOMELANDS OF THE KO MINOK PEOPLE.
WE WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS OUR GRATITUDE AND APPRECIATION TO THOSE WHO STEWARDED AND CONTINUE TO STEWARD THIS LAND.
WE PAY OUR RESPECTS TO THE PAST, PRESENT, AND EMERGING ELDERS AND CITIZENS OF THE COMMUNITY OF THE COAST.
ME WALK AND INVITE ALL TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS COMMITTEE'S CONTINUE COMMUNITY WORK HERE.
GOOD EVENING COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
I AM GOING TO STILL CONTINUE HELPING TO FACILITATE THIS MEETING AS YOUR STAFF PERSON REMOTELY.
UM, I WANTED TO JUST TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE YOU TO ANDREW TRIPLE.
HE IS OUR PLANNING MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF PETALUMA AND IS OPERATING IN LIEU OF MYSELF AND DAVID BEING PRESENT THIS EVENING.
HE IS A WONDERFUL RESOURCE, SO WE ARE LUCKY TO HAVE HIM ATTEND THIS EVENING'S MEETING.
WE WILL BEGIN WITH ITEM NUMBER ONE, OFFICER ELECTIONS.
I INVITE THE DISCUSSION TO BEGIN WITH COMMITTEE MEMBERS AS TO WHO YOU WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE AS YOUR CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR IN THE COMING MONTHS.
CAN I GET A, UH, CLARIFICATION? ARE YOU GONNA RUN THE MEETING OR IS THE CHAIR GONNA RUN THE MEETING? I BELIEVE THAT AF AFTER THE COMMITTEE, THE COMMITTEE WILL GO AHEAD AND ELECT THE CHAIR AND THEN, UH, WHOEVER'S ELECTED CHAIR WILL RUN THE MEETING.
I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE CHRISTOPHER SMITH TO BE THE CHAIR OF OUR COMMITTEE.
I WAS GONNA, UM, INTRODUCE THIS ITEM BY EX BY CLARIFYING THAT NOMINEES, UM, CAN ACCEPT OR DECLINE KLEIN AND, UM, WHEN YOU ARE ACCEPTING OR DECLINING, YOU CAN MAKE A COMMENT IF YOU'D LIKE AS WELL.
AND I GUESS I'D LIKE TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY THAT.
YEAH, I'D BE HAPPY TO TO ACCEPT THE NOMINATION, BUT I'D BE JUST AS HAPPY TO ACCEPT THE NOMINATION FOR VICE CHAIR IN SUPPORT OF SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO TAKE THE REINS.
UM, AND ALSO I'D BE JUST AS HAPPY TO SERVE AS A REGULAR COMMITTEE MEMBER FOR THE DURATION OF MY TERM, WHICH IS ANOTHER SIX MONTHS, UM, IN SUPPORT OF BOTH A NEW CHAIR AND A NEW VICE CHAIR.
SO COULD YOU COULD CONSIDER THAT, BUT YES, FOR CHAIR I WOULD ACCEPT.
AND ARE YOU EX ARE YOU ASKING FOR A FULL NOMINATIONS AT THIS POINT? IF THERE ARE ANY OTHERS AND THEN WE COULD VOTE ON THEM.
I THINK DOES THAT, FOR THOSE WHO, WHO NOMINATED MR. SMITH, DOES THAT CHANGE, DOES HIS INFORMATION CHANGE YOUR NOMINATION AT ALL? NO.
AREN'T THERE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS?
WE'LL MOVE ON TO VICE CHAIR THEN.
SO THEN A NOMINATION FOR VICE CHAIR.
COMMITTEE MEMBER MOORING? YES.
COMMITTEE MEMBER RIZZA SIMMONS? YES, THE VOTE HAS PASSED.
AND THEN CHAIR SMITH, IF, UM, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO CALL FOR A NOMINATION FOR VICE CHAIR OR YOU CAN NOMINATE, YOU COULD LEAD WITH A NOMINATION YOURSELF.
I'LL OPEN THE FLOOR TO NOMINATIONS FOR VICE CHAIR.
I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE ANN DIGGS FOR VICE CHAIR.
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COULD WE TAKE A VOTE? UNLESS THERE ANY OTHER CONVERSATION? EXCEPT THE NOMINATION GATHER.URIEL IF SHE'LL ACCEPT, I WILL ACCEPT THE NOMINATION COMMITTEE MEMBER COL IRON? YES.
COMMITTEE MEMBER MOORING? YES.
COMMITTEE MEMBER RESISTANCE? YES, THE VOTE IS PASSED.
LOOK FORWARD TO SERVING ANOTHER SIX MONTHS ON THIS COMMITTEE WITH, UH, GREAT VICE CHAIR.
SO, UM, I'D LIKE TO ALSO SAY THAT I'M, I HAPPEN TO BE CHAIRING THIS BECAUSE AS WE NOW KNOW, JUST FOR TO BE COMPLETELY CLEAR, UM, A CASCADE OF, UH, EVENTS THAT IS A FEW MONTHS AGO, DAVID WARD SUGGESTED THAT HE, UH, WOULD SERVE ANOTHER MONTH OR TO THREE MONTHS, AND IT'S TURNED OUT TO BE JUST ABOUT THAT.
UM, SO HE'S NO LONGER THE PUBLIC ART SPECIALIST, BUT I GUESS HE'S ON THE AGENDA FOR THIS MEETING.
SO DAVID IS CONTINUING IN THAT ROLE AS WE TRANSITION INTO, UH, MELISSA'S NEW ROLE.
SO I THINK YOU'LL SEE SOME OVERLAP THERE, AT LEAST FOR THIS MEETING AND PERHAPS INTO THE NEXT MEETING AS WELL.
AND, UH, THEN BECAUSE OF HI, HIM LEAVING, UH, MELISSA ABERCROMBIE, FORMER CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE, UM, IT TRANSITIONED INTO HER NEW ROLE AS THE PUBLIC ART SPECIALIST.
BUT WE, I WANTED TO EXTEND PERSONAL THANKS TO DAVID WARD FOR ELEVATING THIS COMMITTEE DURING THE COURSE OF HIS FEW YEARS OF SERVICE, AND ALSO TO FORMER CHAIR ABERCROMBIE FOR ALL OF THE, UM, SORT OF CREATIVITY AND DILIGENCE AND, UH, EVERYTHING ELSE SHE BROUGHT TO THE COMMITTEE.
AND, YOU KNOW, I GUESS WE'LL EXPECT DOUBLE THAT IN HER NEW ROLE GOING FORWARD.
SO, UM, AND THEN THANK YOU FOR, UM, FOR THE, UH, PLANNING MANAGER ANDREW TRIPLE FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.
SO, UH, WITH OFFICER ELECTIONS, AGENDA ITEM ONE OUT OF THE WAY, WE'LL MOVE ON TO, UH, GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
AND, UH, DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON ITEMS OF PUBLIC INTERESTS THAT ARE WITHIN THIS COMMITTEE'S SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION.
AND THEY'RE NOT LISTED ON THE CURRENT AGENDA.
SEEN NO ONE, UM, PHYSICALLY HERE.
UM, DID YOU RECEIVE ANY COMMENTS AHEAD OF THE MEETING, ARIEL? WE RECEIVED NO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS, UH, PRIOR TO THE MEETING.
UM, WITH THAT THEN, WITH NO COMMENTS, WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AND MOVE TO AGENDA
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ITEM TWO, UM, WHICH IS THE PETALUMA ARTS CENTER, UH, 2024 CALENDAR.UM, THIS WILL BE PRESENTED BY, UH, LISA DEMETRIS.
UM, AND SHE'LL TALK ABOUT THE ACTIVITY SCHEDULING AND PROGRAMS FOR THE 2024 CALENDAR YEAR.
AND, UM, IT SAYS HERE THAT YOU ARE, YOU ARE THE CHAIR, BUT I THINK, UM, YOUR TITLE IS SOMETHING LIKE PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
YOU WELL, YOU'RE WELCOME TO START YOUR PRESENTATION WITH SUPPORT FROM STAFF.
UM, HI EVERYONE, I'M LISA DEMETRIUS AND I'M PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD YES.
AND, AND DIGS IS OUR WONDERFUL REPRESENTATIVE HERE.
AND I JUST THOUGHT I WANTED TO BEGIN THE YEAR.
IT'S A CHANCE TO CONNECT MORE, LIKE UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOU ALL ARE DOING AND YOU UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE.
SO THIS IS JUST LIKE, UM, A CHANCE TO SHARE WHAT'S COMING UP FOR US IN 2024.
AND, UM, I KNOW THAT ANNE KNEW THAT ONE OF MY GOALS IS LIKE, IF YOU KNOW THE PLUM ARTS CENTER, WE HAVE A NORTH GALLERY AND THEN WE HAVE A LARGE MAIN GALLERY.
AND I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT ABOUT IN THE NORTH GALLERY, MAYBE TO HAVE AN EXHIBIT ABOUT WITH A MAP OF THE ART PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENT OR COMING UP, MAYBE EVEN REACH OUT TO OUR OVER 120 ARTISTS MEMBERS AND GET PHOTOGRAPHY TAKEN OF SOME OF THESE PIECES OR PAINTING OR DO SORT OF AN INTERACTION.
SO I HAVE JUST FOUR SIMPLE DOCUMENTS AND I WAS JUST WANTING TO HAVE YOU ALL HAVE THESE, THIS INFORMATION AND WE COULD JUST SEE WE, WHERE WE MIGHT INTERCONNECT OR IF WE CAN OFFER SOMETHING.
I KNOW FOR US, UM, WITH COVID IT REALLY WAS AN INTERESTING MOMENT TO, UM, REALLY WE, THAT'S WHEN OUR ARTIST MEMBERSHIP GREW.
AND SO THESE ARTISTS ALL HAVE ON THE WEBSITES.
I KNOW THERE'S SOME THAT ALSO HAVE WORKED WITH YOU ALL AND THAT'S ANOTHER AREA OF OVERLAP THAT I SAW.
SO IF YOU JUST WANNA CALL UP A DOCUMENT, PLEASE.
UM, I WAS JUST SHARING ABOUT THE UPCOMING EXHIBITS THAT WE HAVE.
UM, THE CURRENT ONE, OH, THIS IS, UH, STATISTICS FOR 2023.
WE DID A, UM, QUESTIONNAIRE TO OUR AUDIENCE.
WE HAVE OVER 3000, UM, WELL WE HAVE 2,500 ANNUAL VISITORS.
WE HAVE OVER 4,000 SOCIAL MEDIA FOLLOWERS AND YOU CAN SEE RIGHT THERE, 3,400 THAT RECEIVE OUR NEWSLETTER RECIPIENT.
AND SO WE'RE STARTING TO DO THESE QUESTIONNAIRES JUST TO SEE HOW WE
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ARE, UM, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WORKING WELL WITHIN THE COMMUNITY 'CAUSE WE WANT TO BUILD COMMUNITY THROUGH THE ARTS.AND THEN AT THE BOTTOM ARE THE SIX SHOWS THAT WE DO EACH YEAR.
AND THIS LAST YEAR WAS PETALUMA COLLECTS AUTO MOBILITY, AGRICULTURE HONORING LIFE COMMON THREADS, AND ART CONNECTS US AND EACH ONE WAS WELL RECEIVED IN THE LOCAL NEWSPAPER TOO.
UM, THE NEXT SLIDE, THIS WAS US EXPRESSING THIS TO BE ABLE TO SHARE, UM, IN DIFFERENT WAYS, UM, THIS INFORMATION OF, OF WHAT THE HIGHLIGHTS WERE FROM THE RESULTS OF THE QUESTIONNAIRE.
AND I THINK WHAT HAPPENED FOR US IS WE'RE A SMALL MIGHTY ART CENTER, UM, THAT'S ONLY OPEN ON TWO DAYS, BUT EVERYONE WANTS US TO BE MORE, MORE OPEN, MORE DAYS.
AND SO PART OF OUR GOAL IS TO GET MORE VOLUNTEERS WHO CAN COME IN AND OPEN IT UP, UH, MORE DAYS.
AND THEN, SO IT WAS OPENING HOURS AND ALSO MORE COMMUNITY-FOCUSED EVENTS.
THAT WAS WITH SOME OF THE LEARNINGS THAT WE HAD FROM OUR QUESTIONNAIRE.
UM, THE NEXT ONE, THIS IS THE CURRENT SHOW THAT I JUST CURATED SOUVENIRS A REFLECTION OF MEMORY, UM, WITH ABOUT NINE LOCAL ARTISTS.
THE SHIFT THAT WE ALSO DID, UM, I'VE BEEN PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD FOR OVER A YEAR AND A HALF.
I WAS ALWAYS ON THE EXHIBITION COMMITTEE BEFOREHAND, WAS WE WENT HYPERLOCAL.
UM, AND SO REALLY REACHING OUT TO THE ARTIST MEMBERS THAT WE HAD FOR THE EXHIBITS THAT WE, WE ARE DOING.
THERE'S ALSO A MEMBER SHOW AND WE ALSO HAVE A YOUTH ART SHOW WHERE WE WORK WITH THE SCHOOLS, UM, FAR IN ADVANCE.
SO THAT, THAT'S GONNA BE COMING UP SOON.
UM, AND THEN YOU'RE ABOUT TO SEE A LIST OF THE FUTURE EXHIBITS FOR THIS YEAR.
SO YOUTH SHOW WILL BE IN MARCH, APRIL.
I ALWAYS FIND IT'S INTERESTING THE TIMING OF THESE THINGS IS, OF COURSE YOU WANNA DO THIS WHEN EVERYONE'S STILL IN SCHOOL.
SO THAT'S WHY THAT'S MARCH, APRIL.
WE'RE DOING A ONE ABOUT MATERIALITY, UM, MORE FROM A SCULPTURAL POINT OF VIEW.
BLACK ARTISTS OF NORTHERN CALIFORNIA, WHICH WILL, UM, ALSO, UM, BE USING BOTH THE THE BIGGER GALLERY AND THE SMALLER ONE.
AND THEN FUNCTIONAL ART, MORE DESIGN PIECES.
UH, FOR US, WE HAVE USUALLY, UH, WE HAVE A COMMITTEE, UM, OF EXHIBITIONS, AN EXHIBITION COMMITTEE WHERE WE HAVE SEVERAL CURATORS THAT WE ROTATE AND DO USUALLY TWO OF US WORKING ON A SHOW OR ONE OF US LEADING THAT.
WITH THE SIX SHOWS THAT WE DO EACH YEAR, WE FIND THAT THREE, TWO OF THEM ARE ALWAYS THE SAME.
THERE'S ALWAYS A MEMBER SHOW AND THERE'S ALWAYS A YOUTH ART SHOW.
SO THE ONLY CHANGING ONES ARE REALLY THE FOUR OTHERS.
UM, AND WHAT WE ALSO FOUND THAT IT'S ALWAYS GREAT TO HAVE PEOPLE SORT OF KNOW WHAT'S COMING AHEAD.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO STAY AHEAD A YEAR OR SO.
UH, SO WE CAN REACH OUT FOR GRANTS, UM, OR DONORS, UM, FROM OUR COMMUNITY.
AND I THINK THERE'S JUST ONE MORE.
IS THERE, OR WAS THAT FOUR? THAT WAS FOUR.
WELL, I, NO, I JUST, I, I DIDN'T WANT, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU GUYS JUST A BRIEF AND JUST GIVE YOU A SENSE OF LIKE WHAT WE'RE DOING OVER THERE.
AND WE LEFT IT WHEN ANN CAME LAST MONTH, UM, JUST TO BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN WHAT PROJECTS YOU GUYS ARE COMING UP.
AND IF YOU THINK OF SOMETHING, PLEASE REACH OUT TO ANNE OR, OR TO ME, UM, OF WAYS WE CAN WORK TOGETHER.
ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU FOR COMING.
IT'S ALWAYS GREAT TO KNOW, UH, WHAT'S HAPPENING OVER AT THE ART CENTER.
UM, I FOLLOW IT, BUT YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY IN THE COMMITTEE OR EVEN WHO MIGHT BE WATCHING IS FOLLOWING, UM, THE SOUVENIRS EXHIBIT LAST NIGHT WAS INCREDIBLY WELL PUT TOGETHER AND ATTENDED.
I THOUGHT IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL SHOW.
UM, I KNEW CHRISTOPHER WAS THERE AND IT JUST STRIKES ME HOW, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SUCH A RICH CONSORTIUM OF CREATIVES AND MAKERS IN PETALUMA AND I LOVE THAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING HYPER-LOCAL MM-HMM.
AND I WAS WONDERING, DAVID HAS LONG WANTED TO CREATE SOME SORT OF SYNERGY BETWEEN BOTH BODIES WHERE WE CAN, CAN CROSS PROMOTE CROSS MARKET, THAT KIND OF THING.
YOU HAVE A ROBUST NEWSLETTER MM-HMM.
WHEREAS OUR SITE FROM THE CITY SIDE IS STRICTLY INFORMATIONAL.
THERE REALLY ISN'T A LOT OF, UM, PUSHED OUT INTERACTIVITY.
AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMEHOW OUR, OUR BODY SORT OF WORK THAT END OF THINGS.
AND MAYBE WE CAN SHARE, AND I DON'T KNOW AT WHAT POINT WHERE, UM, THE INTERESTS OF THE ART CENTER AS A NONPROFIT AND, UM, THE, YOU KNOW, THE PPAC AS A GOVERNMENT BODY, HOW WE CAN DO THAT.
YOU KNOW, I'M SURE THERE'S SOME PARAMETER WHERE WE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANNA OVER, YOU KNOW, AS A PUBLIC BODY, WE DON'T WANNA PROMOTE CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, A FOR-PROFIT CENTER.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NONPROFIT SITUATION IS.
SO I'D LIKE TO JUST, YOU KNOW, LOOK INTO THAT A LITTLE FURTHER FROM MY END.
WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE I THINK WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE CLOSING OF SO MANY PRIVATE GALLERIES HERE IN PETALUMA, THERE'S MORE AND MORE ARTISTS COMING TO US TO JOIN.
AND I THINK IT'S A WAY TO HAVE A PLATFORM FOR THEM, UM, TO SHARE THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING.
AND SO I JUST THINK IT'S GONNA BE EVEN MORE IMPORTANT IN THE COMING MONTHS.
'CAUSE SO MANY, SO MANY PLACES ARE CLOSING, UM, HERE AND YET WE ARE SUCH A STRONG
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MAKER COMMUNITY.I MEAN, IT'S INCREDIBLE WHETHER YOU'RE PIXAR, LUCAS, BURNING MAN, YOUR OWN SELF MADE ARTIST, IT'S, IT'S REALLY INCREDIBLE HOW MUCH IS HERE.
AND THAT'S WHY THE OTHER THING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALWAYS ITERATING OURSELVES AND TRYING OUT DIFFERENT THINGS IS, UM, HAVING MORE EVENTS DURING THE SIX WEEKS OF THE SHOWS.
SO LIKE IDEA LOUNGE WAS ONE EVENT THAT YOU CAME TO.
WE'RE ALSO WANT PANEL DISCUSSIONS.
WE ALSO, FOR US, WANNA BROADEN WHAT ARTS MEAN.
SO MAYBE HAVE, UM, MUSIC BROUGHT IN OR POETRY READING OR OTHERS.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, I WOULD LOVE TO TALK MORE 'CAUSE I, I REALIZE THESE ARE TWO ENTITIES, BUT WE ARE, WE, WE, THERE'S A LOT WE CAN DO THAT OVERLAPS.
AND WE, YOU KNOW, OFTENTIMES WHEN WE'LL HAVE AN OPENING CEREMONY MM-HMM.
FOR A PIECE, WHETHER IT BE A MURAL OR A SCULPTURE OR WHATNOT, AND IT WOULD REALLY, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO NOTIFY YOUR COMMUNITY YEAH.
TO CREATE A BIGGER PRESENCE AT THOSE EVENTS.
WELL, I WOULD LOVE, LIKE IN SUCH A CASE IS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOMETHING AT THE ART CENTER LIKE DESCRIPTION, WHERE TO GO A PAMPHLET, AN IMAGE, SOMETHING.
AND THAT'S WHY I WANT THE MAP
I WANT THE MAP AND I WANT THE QR CODES JUST BECAUSE I KNOW WHERE THINGS ARE IN THE PETALUMA, BUT I DON'T ALWAYS KNOW WHERE EXACTLY IT IS.
AND I JUST FEEL LIKE THOSE ARE MISSED OPPORTUNITIES.
WE'RE ALSO NOTICING EVEN THOSE COMING OFF THE SMART TRAIN, YOU KNOW, THEY WANNA KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON ART-WISE.
AND SO THAT'S A POISED PLACE THAT WE COULD ALSO BE.
SO, UM, YES, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
SO THAT, UM, NOTE, DO YOU SEE A A, A NATURAL OPPORTUNITY IN YOUR SCHEDULE FOR US TO PUT SOMETHING IN THE NORTH GALLERY? I THINK, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE, UM, YES.
I THINK I COULD SHOW YOU WE HAD TWO SLOTS, UM, HOLDING THAT WE COULD DO SOMETHING.
AND THOSE ARE LIKE FOR SIX WEEKS.
UM, NOT DURING THE BLACK ARTISTS OF NORTH.
'CAUSE I KNOW THEY'RE USING BOTH.
BUT, UM, THERE'S TWO OTHERS THAT WE WERE SAVING.
IT'D BE GREAT TO, WHEN THAT HAPPENS, WE COULD ARCHIVE IT ON OUR SITE.
UM, SO THAT PEOPLE COME TO PETALUMA HAVE THAT.
VISITORS HAVE THAT RESOURCE AS WELL.
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT WE DID DURING COVID WAS MAKE OUR WEBSITE MUCH MORE ROBUST.
IT, THAT BECAME THE COMMUNICATION TOOL.
UM, AND EVERYTHING'S JUST GONE DIGITAL SINCE THEN.
WE DON'T EVEN REALLY DO POSTCARDS ANYMORE.
AND I THINK ALSO ENVIRONMENTALLY THAT'S BETTER TOO.
UM, AND SO, AS I SAID, WE'VE JUST BEEN EXPERIMENTING, BUT WE REALLY PUT THE ENERGY INTO THE WEBSITE WHERE ARTISTS MEMBERS COULD SHARE A LINK AND A PICTURE OF THEIR WORK AS WELL AS THE UPCOMING EVENTS AND SUCH LIKE THAT.
SO IT'S BEEN A USEFUL TOOL FOR US.
WELL THANK YOU COMMENTS FROM ANY OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
I DON'T MAKE IT TO ALL AGAIN, DEPENDING ON THE DAYS THAT YOU'RE OPEN.
AND IF I CAN GET THERE OR NOT.
BUT, UM, I'VE ALWAYS ENJOYED THEM.
I REMEMBER THE REMBRANDT DRAWING YES.
SO I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD DO SOMETHING MM-HMM.
I THINK, I THINK THERE'S JUST, THERE'S, IT'S, IT'S RIPE FOR THAT RIGHT NOW.
AND I THINK THERE'S A CURIOSITY OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN PETALUMA CREATIVELY.
UM, AND YOU HAVE SOME AMAZING PIECES TO SHARE.
AND SO I JUST, I KIND OF WANT IT TO BECOME PART OF THE FABRIC.
LIKE, SO FOR SCHOOL GROUPS OR SOMETHING TO KNOW WHERE THINGS ARE TO THE ARTISTS THAT IS LOCAL OR TO FRIENDS AND FAMILY THAT ARE VISITING AT THE HOLIDAYS.
I JUST WANT IT TO KIND OF BE THERE.
SO, AND, AND I LOVE THE IDEA THAT YOU SEE THE ARTS AS MORE THAN THE VISUAL ARTS, YOU KNOW, HAVE THE PERFORMING ARTS AND THE MUSIC AND THE OTHER TYPE OF ACTIVITIES.
WE WERE EVEN THINKING OF LIKE, WOULDN'T IT BE FUN WITH CINE BAR TO HAVE LIKE A READING OF THE PLAY, YOU KNOW, IN THE GALLERY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OR I DUNNO.
SO WE'RE SORT OF PLAYING WITH THESE IDEAS AND THERE'S BEEN A FEW EVENTS WHERE WE'RE TALKING TO EACH OTHER AND JUST SEEING, IT'S REALLY THE TIMING LIKE THAT WE'RE FIGURING OUT.
BUT I THINK THERE'S SOME, SOME GOOD POSSIBILITIES.
SO I WAS GONNA MAKE ONE COMMENT MAYBE IN ADVANCE OF THIS JUST TO SAY WE'VE HAD A, THIS COMMITTEE HAS HAD NOT FITS AND STARTS, BUT HAS, HAS HAD ENCOUNTERS WITH THE PEDAL OF ART CENTER OVER THE YEARS.
VICE HIDDEN CHAIR, HIDDEN PETAL LO YES.
UM, BUT I STILL THINK THERE'S A, THERE MIGHT BE A LACK THERE, THERE'S SO MUCH MORE POTENTIAL.
BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT, UM, THAT THERE'S ONE ROUTE HERE THAT WE CAN JUST DO IT, UH, BASED ON, ON WHAT YOUR SUGGESTIONS ARE.
SO WHAT I WOULD HOPE IS THAT YOU COULD, UM, THAT OUR REPRESENTATIVE TO THE PETAL OF ART CENTER COULD ACT AS A CONDUIT AND MAYBE TAKE, GIVE ALL THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS SOME HOMEWORK HERE, WHICH IS TO ACTIVELY MAKE SURE
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THEY VISIT THE ART CENTER, UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ART CENTER'S DOING UNDER, AND THEN USE YOUR CREATIVE BRAINS TO PUT TOGETHER THE POSSIBILITIES AND REPORT BACK SO YOU CAN SORT, YOU CAN BRING TOGETHER SOME IDEAS THAT MAYBE WE CAN AGENDIZE AT THE FUTURE MEETING.YEAH, I'M, I'M HAPPY TO PLAN A TIME IF YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO MAKE, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE FRIDAY OR SATURDAY, UM, TO WELCOME YOU AND GIVE YOU A TOUR OF WHAT IT IS AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE THAT IS OUTSIDE THE NEW NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS.
THANK YOU, LISA, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
I WANTED TO, SORRY, I'M KIND OF AN EYE IN THE SKY.
I'LL TRY TO INSERT WHERE I CAN.
EXHIBIT I VISITED IT LAST THURSDAY.
I WAS INCREDIBLY IMPRESSED AND HAPPY TO SEE CHAIR SMITH THERE AS WELL.
AND I WILL BE FOLLOWING UP WITH YOU IN THE COMING WEEKS TO HELP SET UP TIMES TO FACILITATE A VISIT.
BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND, AND IT'S REALLY WHAT WORKS FOR YOU ALL BECAUSE I REALLY WOULD LOVE FOR THIS TO WORK.
SO IF IT'S ONE OR TWO TIMES, YOU KNOW, WE COULD DO IT IN SMALLER GROUPS.
I JUST KNOW EVERYONE HAS BUSY SCHEDULES, SO I RESPECT THAT.
ALSO, CHAIR, I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION, UM, WHICH I THINK IS ALIGNED WITH, WITH THE PRESENTATION THIS EVENING AND SOME OF THE DISCUSSION ABOUT BUILDING A, A STRONGER PARTNERSHIP IN, UH, YOU KNOW, 2024, THE GENERAL PLAN UPDATE WILL BE COMING FORWARD.
AND WE DO HAVE THE ARTS AND CULTURE ELEMENT AS PART OF THE GENERAL PLAN.
AND I THINK THAT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE POLICIES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED THROUGH THAT ARTS AND CULTURE FRAMEWORK TO, TO THINK ABOUT HOW DO THOSE POLICIES SUPPORT SOME OF THE PARTNERSHIPS THAT THE, UH, THAT THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE AND THAT THAT LOCAL NONPROFITS MIGHT SEE AS BEING BENEFICIAL TO EVERYBODY.
SO I WOULD KEEP AN EYE ON, UM, THE, THE GENERAL PLAN PROCESS AS IT EVOLVES IN 2024 AND LOOK FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE, TO COMMENT ON THE ARTS AND CULTURE ELEMENT.
UM, CHRIS, CAN I ASK ANDREW A QUESTION ABOUT THE ARTS AND CULTURE? YEAH, PLEASE DO.
SO JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON YOUR COMMENT, I REMEMBER WHEN THEY CAME, WHAT WAS THAT, TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO, CHRIS, AND THEY TALKED TO US IN THE VERY BEGINNING.
UM, WILL WE BE GETTING AN UPDATE ON THAT? YOU WILL BE.
I I BELIEVE THAT OUT OF THAT, THAT WORK CAME, UM, THEY PRODUCED THE, THE BACKGROUND DOCUMENT.
I WAS JUST LOOKING AT IT A MOMENT AGO.
IT LOOKS LIKE IN MAYBE SEPTEMBER OF 2022, THEY PRODUCED, UM, THE BACKGROUND REPORT FOR ARTS AND CULTURE.
AND IT WAS UPDATED IN SEPTEMBER OF 2022.
SO I, I WOULD SUSPECT THAT THE, THE DISCUSSION HAD THEN, UM, WAS INTEGRATED INTO THE BACKGROUND REPORT, AND THEN SUBSEQUENTLY THEY'VE TAKEN THE RESEARCH THAT THEY'VE DONE, CONVERSATIONS THAT THEY'VE HAD, AND OUR DRAFTING THE POLICIES THEN THAT WOULD, WOULD, UM, COMPRISE THE ARTS AND CULTURE FRAMEWORK THAT WILL COME FORWARD FOR REVIEW.
SO MAYBE, UM, MELISSA, MAYBE WE CAN FOLLOW UP WITH THE GENERAL PLAN UPDATE TEAM AND, AND LOOK AT THE TIMELINE, UH, FOR WHEN THAT ELEMENT WILL COME FORWARD TO BE SURE THAT, UH, THE COMMITTEE HAS PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW AND PROVIDE INPUT.
THAT WAY WE CAN MAYBE HAVE MORE INPUT, ESPECIALLY NOW WE HAVE FOUR NEW MEMBERS, YOU KNOW, TO ADD ADDITIONAL INPUT BEFORE IT GETS CAST IN CONCRETE.
WITH THAT WE'LL CLOSE, UH, AGENDA ITEM TWO AND MOVE ON TO BURNING MAN 2023.
AND OUR COMMITTEE MEMBER KEVIN MORAN.
UM, IT'S ALSO A PARALEGAL FOR THE BURNING MAN PROJECT.
WE'LL, UH, UH, PRESENT THIS ITEM.
FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO THANK THE COMMITTEE FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
UM, I PROMISED THIS MANY MONTHS AGO AND IT'S FINALLY ARRIVED.
SO, UM, LIKE CHAIR SMITH MENTIONED, I AM A PARALEGAL FOR THE BURNING MAN PROJECT.
UM, I GO THERE FOR WORK AND FOR FUN EVERY YEAR.
AND NOW THAT I'M A MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE, I WENT THERE WITH AN EYE TOWARDS, UM, PUBLIC ART STUFF THAT BRINGS COMMUNITIES TOGETHER AND STUFF YOU CAN JUST PLAY ON AND HAVE WHIMSICAL
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TIME WITH.UM, BUT TO START WITH A PINCH OF BURNING MAN HISTORY FOR EVERYONE'S, IF YOU HAVEN'T HEARD OF IT, IT STARTED ON BAKER BEACH IN SAN FRANCISCO BY MAIN INSTIGATOR LARRY HARVEY AND HIS FRIEND JERRY JAMES.
UH, THEY BUILT A WOODEN SCULPTURE AND BURNED IT ON THE SUMMER SOLSTICE, AND THEY CONTINUED DOING THAT FOR A FEW YEARS WHILE IT GAINED TRACTION.
UM, THEY EVENTUALLY GREW TOO BIG FOR BAKER BEACH AND WERE KIND OF KICKED OUT AND MOVED IT TO THE BLACKROCK DESERT IN NORTHERN NEVADA, AND IT JUST KIND OF EXPLODED FROM THERE.
UM, AT FIRST IT WAS KIND OF A DATAS MOVEMENT AND IT EVOLVED INTO ITS OWN OWN THING.
UH, TODAY BURNING MAN IS BLACKROCK CITY, WHICH IS A TEMPORARY CITY BUILT IN THE BLACKROCK DESERT.
IT'S BUILT UP FROM A CLEAN SLATE TO THE PLAYA, AND AFTERWARDS IT'S METICULOUSLY CLEANED UP AND INSPECTED BY THE BUREAU OF LAND MANAGEMENT.
UM, WE'VE NEVER FAILED A TEST.
IT'S, IT'S BEAUTIFUL
BUT MOSTLY THIS PRESENTATION IS ABOUT COOL STUFF I SAW AT BURNING MAN THIS YEAR.
UM, THIS YEAR IS KIND OF MODELED AFTER BEEHIVES, SO YOU HAVE A LOT OF THOSE HEXAGONAL SHAPES.
THERE'S A LOT OF SHADY SPOTS TO HANG OUT IN.
THIS IS ABOUT, I'M BAD WITH DISTANCES OUT THERE, BUT IT'S KIND OF LIKE A, IT SEEMS A MILE AWAY FROM ANYTHING OUT THERE.
SO YOU CAN GO THERE, MEET NEW PEOPLE.
THIS IS THE FIRST PETALUMA ARTIST THAT I FOUND OUT THERE ARE VERY OWN MICHAEL DARLINGTON IN HIS FAMED CHAPEL OF BABEL.
THIS IS ON ONE OF OUR MAIN BURNS THIS YEAR.
UH, THIS IMAGE ON THE LEFT IS DURING BUILD WEEK, SO IT'S NOT COMPLETELY FINISHED, BUT IT'S ABOUT 90% OF THE WAY THERE.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT EVERY SQUARE INCH OF IT WAS COVERED IN PHOTOS THAT SEEMED TO SELL, TELL A STORY.
BUT, UM, IT WASN'T, YOU KNOW, CLEARLY WRITTEN OUT.
YOU'D GO IN AND MAKE YOUR OWN CONNECTIONS.
AND MY FAVORITE PART WAS, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IT IN THE MIDDLE AND RIGHT PHOTOS WAS, THERE'S A FULL ARCHWAY THAT WAS INSIDE.
UH, YOU COULD WALK IN AND AROUND IT AND IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER YOU CAN KIND OF SEE, UM, A PARTICIPANT THAT HAD DRAPED THEMSELVES FULLY IN BLACK FLOWY GARBS.
AND THEY WERE DOING TAROT READINGS IN THERE.
AND THERE'S GREGORIAN CHANTING FROM THE SPEAKERS.
AND IT JUST HAD THIS LIKE, SOLEMN, COOL, EERIE FEELING.
UH, THIS NEXT PIECE I ADDED TO THIS PRESENTATION, JUST BECAUSE IT GAVE, GIVES A JUNGLE GYM A FEEL, PEOPLE CLIMBED ALL OVER IT.
IT REALLY SEEMED LIKE A COOL THING THAT YOU'D SEE IN A CITY.
YOU KNOW, UM, IT, I THINK IT SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.
ITS FIRST YEAR WAS 2022 AND IT RETURNED IN 2023.
IT'S CALLED WINGS OF GLORY BY ADRIAN LANDON.
AND IT RUNS AND MOVES AND AT NIGHT THERE'S GAS PUMPED UP INTO THE WINGS AND IT'S IGNITED.
SO IN THE DARK OF NIGHT, IT'S ONE BIG FLAMING PEGASUS FLYING THROUGH THE SKY, AND I THINK IT'S BEAUTIFUL.
UH, THIS NEXT PIECE, THE IMAGE ON THE RIGHT, I TOOK DURING BUILD WEEK.
IT'S KIND OF A CLOSEUP PICTURE, UM, BUT THAT PLATFORM'S IN THE WAY.
AND THIS PICTURE DOESN'T REALLY DO A GOOD JUSTICE TO ITS SCALE, BUT IT WAS PROBABLY AROUND 15 TO 20 FEET TALL.
UM, THIS IS JABBAR'S SOY BY MARK RIVIERA OUT OF PUERTO RICO.
UH, YOU MIGHT'VE SEEN THIS ONE BEFORE.
THIS IS FARMER, THE RIGOR BY ZULU HERO.
UM, IT WAS A LOT BIGGER IN PERSON THAN I EXPECTED IT TO BE.
AND, AND IT REALLY GAVE A BIG SENSE OF WEIGHT.
IT JUST SEEMED HEAVY CLIMBING AROUND IT.
UM, AND I DID CLIMB UP TO THE VERY TOP.
THERE WAS A COUPLE NIGHTS I DIDN'T GO TO THEM THAT HE HAD BIG CONCERTS THERE YOU CAN SEE MY, UH, TRUSTEE STEED BIKE IN THE BOTTOM LEFT FOR A SENSE OF SCALE.
UH, I WAS ALSO REALLY IMPRESSED BY THE HANDS ON THE BACK.
HANDS ARE ALWAYS THE MOST DIFFICULT SUBJECT WHEN YOU'RE IN ART, IN MY OPINION.
AND HE EXECUTED THEM VERY WELL THROUGH HIS FABRICATION.
HE ALSO HAD THIS LITTLE GATHERING SPOT OUT FRONT WITH A FIRE PIT.
I'M USUALLY NOT A BIG FAN OF THE INFLATABLE ART MOTIFS, BUT THIS ONE I REALLY VIBED WITH.
IT HAD A LOT OF LIGHTS ON THE INSIDE, SO AT NIGHT IT SEEMED TO BE BURSTING WITH LIGHT.
AND, UM, THIS PICTURE ON THE RIGHT'S, NOT MINE, BUT AFTER THE INFAMOUS RAIN EVENT, EVERYONE WAS PUTTING BAGS ON THEIR SHOES, UM, TO AVOID GETTING THE MUD STUCK TO IT.
SO SOMEONE WENT OUT THERE AND PUT BIG BLACK GARBAGE BAGS ON 'EM.
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WAS DUCK DUCK GAGGLE BY MEGAN JUNIPER, THE MAGIC BUNNY.UH, MEGAN JUNIPER IS HER ARTIST'S NAME.
UH, BUT SHE BROUGHT THIS OUT, THIS OUT HERE FOR THE PURPOSE OF CREATING COMMUNITY.
IT GAVE PEOPLE A PLACE TO SIT IN AN OTHERWISE WIDE FLAT AREA.
UM, AND I THINK IT EXECUTED IT WELL.
I DIDN'T MEET ANYONE THERE, BUT IT MADE ME STOP AND LAUGH AND I'M SURE IT DID THAT TO OTHER PEOPLE.
AN ALIUS BY KJ BEHEM AND STEFAN SPINS.
THIS WAS A MAJOR HONORARIA GRANT.
UM, HONORARIA ART PIECE AND HONORARIA ARE THE ART GRANT.
BURNING MAN GIVES OUT TO ARTISTS TO BUILD AND BRING THEIR ARTWORK OUT TO BURNING MAN.
SO THIS IS ONE OF THE MAJOR PIECES.
PEOPLE COULD SPIN IT AND MAKE THEIR OWN ANIMALS, AS YOU CAN SEE.
AND I INCLUDED THIS IMAGE BECAUSE IT REALLY SHOWED WHAT THE GROUND LOOKED LIKE DURING THE HEAT.
UM, THE HEIGHT OF THE RAIN, WHERE YOU CAN SEE NO ONE WAS WALKING AROUND 'CAUSE IT WAS A DISASTER.
THIS IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE ARTISTS, MARTIN TAYLOR AND CHROMO FORUMS. THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT IS FROM 2022, AND THE ONE ON THE LEFT IS THE PIECE HE BROUGHT OUT IN 2023.
PART OF ME, UM, I REALLY, THIS IS ANOTHER PIECE THAT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE POSSIBLY SPOKEN OR IF WE COULD GET THIS ARTIST TO BRING A PIECE TO PETALUMA.
AND HE'S A NATIVE OF THE BAY AREA, I BELIEVE HIS STUDIO'S IN OAKLAND.
UH, THE REMAINING PHOTOS ARE KIND OF JUST FUN PICTURES FROM THE PLAYA.
UH, THIS IS A TOP, UH, ART CAR OR MUTANT VEHICLE, AS WE CALL THEM.
THIS IS WAGAR BY MICHAEL SATIN.
IT WAS A HUGE INFLATABLE PINK LION OR CHEETAH, AN ANIMAL, A CAT OF SOME SORT.
YOU COULD SEE IT FROM ALL AROUND THE CITY.
UM, I COULD NOT FIND THE NAME OF THIS ART PIECE, BUT IT REALLY VIBED WITH ME BECAUSE IT INTERACTED WITH THE PLAYA AND WITH A MANMADE SCULPTURE BROUGHT OUT THERE.
UM, THE DUST WOULD COLLECT ON THESE OTHERWISE BARREN PIECES OF FIBERGLASS, AND YOU COULD GO UP AND WRITE MESSAGES WITH YOUR FINGERS.
UM, SO YOU'D GO UP THERE AND IT WAS KIND OF AN EVOLVING STORY FROM EVERYONE WHO'S COME BY.
BUT THEY DID NOT EXPECT THE RAIN TO COME BY AND KEEP ALL THE DUST OFF.
SO IT WAS ONLY FUN FOR ABOUT HALF THE WEEK.
UM, THESE ARE ALSO NOT MY PHOTOS.
I TOOK THESE FROM THE ARTIST'S INSTAGRAM PAGE, BUT THIS IS THE SECOND HONORARIA RECIPIENT FROM PETALUMA.
UM, A COMPLEX HYON BY LA ATTITUDE COLLECTIVE.
UM, IF YOU WENT INSIDE, I BELIEVE THERE WAS A, LIKE A BIG BELL OR SOMETHING ON THE INSIDE.
I DIDN'T GET TO EXPERIENCE THIS ONE.
THIS IS A PICTURE I TOOK OF CENTER CAMP.
THIS IS JUST THE CENTER OF THE CITY WHERE YOU USED TO BE ABLE TO GO PURCHASE COFFEE AND ICE, BUT IT'S JUST ICE NOW.
IT'S KIND OF A GATHERING SPICE.
AND RIGHT NOW IT'S IN A, A MOMENT OF TRANSITION INTO ITS NEXT, NEXT THING, SINCE WE DON'T SELL COFFEE THERE ANYMORE.
OH, AND THIS IS MUTANT VEHICLE.
UM, THIS ONE'S CALLED SMILE HIGH.
IT'S NOT THE PRETTIEST ONE OUT THERE BY FAR, BUT IF YOU'RE A COOL GUY, THEY LET YOU DRIVE IT.
UH, AND THEN THESE LAST ONES ARE JUST SOME FUN PHOTOS I TOOK DRIVING AROUND THAT.
I WAS LOOKING FOR MORE ART INSTALLATION TYPE ART, A LITTLE SARCASM.
UM, WE HAVE A KEYHOLE, WHICH IS OUTSIDE OF CENTER CAMP, UM, IT'S CALLED THE KEYHOLE ART.
WINGS OF GLORY WAS SET IN 2022.
AND THIS IS 2023 CENTERPIECE ART.
THIS IS BY THE ARTIST FINCH, WHO YOU MIGHT RECOGNIZE FROM HIS HONEY BEARS THAT BECAME VERY POPULAR DURING 2020 AND THROUGHOUT THEN.
UH, THAT'S LIKE PICTURE OF A CAT
AND THIS IS THE TEMPLE EVERY YEAR BURNING MAN IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE MAN ERECTS AND BURNS A TEMPLE.
IT'S BURNED THE DAY AFTER THE MAN IS, AND IT'S A VERY SOLEMN PLACE THAT PEOPLE GO AND SAY GOODBYE TO LOST LOVED ONES.
UM, REALLY ANYTHING YOU NEED TO SAY GOODBYE TO, IT'S REALLY, REALLY MOVING.
IF YOU GO IN THERE, IT, IT'S VERY QUIET.
PEOPLE ARE SOBBING, SEE, PEOPLE ARE SINGING.
IT'S A REALLY, REALLY MOVING EXPERIENCE TO WALK INTO THE TEMPLE.
AND WHEN IT BURNS, EVERY EVERYONE'S SITTING AROUND, ALL THE THOUSANDS OF CITIZENS OF BLACKROCK CITY ARE COMPLETELY SILENT.
SO SITTING WITH THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE DURING THIS ENORMOUS BONFIRE, INCOMPLETE SILENCE IS QUITE THE EXPERIENCE.
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AND I'LL END WITH THAT PHOTO.WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO COMMENT ON WHAT YOUR FELLOW COMMITTEE MEMBER PRESENTED, OR SHOULD WE JUST THANK HIM? I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU BURNING MAN.
UM, WHO DO YOU KNOW WHO BUILT THE TEMPLE? UM, JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY, BUT NOT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
UM, I KNOW IT'S NOT MICHAEL MICHAEL BEST.
ALL THOSE PIECES ARE, IT'S AMAZING AND THE SCALE IS SO INTERESTING TO ENCOUNTER.
UM, AND THE JUXTAPOSITION BETWEEN THE PLAYA AND THE PIECE IS ALWAYS PRETTY INCREDIBLE.
SO, UM, THANK YOU FOR SHARING.
AND YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ANY WAY THAT WE CAN INVITE ARTISTS TO, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT OUR SMALL ARTS OR, YOU KNOW, ANY OF OUR POTENTIAL PROJECTS DOWN THE ROAD, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU REACH OUT TO ANY, ANY OF THESE ARTISTS IN PARTICULAR, BUT VIA THE WHOLE COMMUNITY.
IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR WHEN WE HAVE, UM, PROJECTS COMING UP THAT WE COULD PUT THAT OUT TO THE BRAIN MAIN COMMUNITY VIA YOU? OH YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
UM, HAVE, HAVE WE DONE THAT IN THE PAST OR NO? NO, THAT'D BE INTERESTING.
I MEAN, I KNOW THERE'S ALWAYS CONDITIONS AROUND WE, WE'D LIKE TO GET LOCAL PEOPLE OR, YOU KNOW, BAY AREA ARTISTS, BUT I THINK THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST SUCH A HUGE MOUTHPIECE.
IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE SURE.
I MEAN, THEY'RE VERY, UM, THEY'RE ALWAYS OPEN TO
AND OF COURSE I CAN MAKE CONNECTIONS.
UM, I HAVE PERSONAL RELATIONSHIPS WITH ALL THE ARTIST LIAISONS AND THEY'D BE HAPPY TO REACH OUT TO THEM IF WE JUST DON'T REACH OUT TO THEM DIRECTLY THROUGH THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA.
BUT, UH, YEAH, SO KEEP THAT IN MIND FOR THE FUTURE.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE, IT'S A GREAT THING TO TAP INTO FOR US.
SO, UM, YEAH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THIS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHAT A COMMITTEE MEMBER CAN DO WHEN HE OR SHE BRINGS HIS OR HER OUTSIDE EXPERIENCE IN AND, UH, SHARE.
SO WE'VE DONE THIS A FEW TIMES AND I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE ELSE TO, TO LATCH ONTO SOMETHING THAT MOVES THEM OUT IN THE WORLD AND BRING IT IN AND, AND SHARE IT WITH US.
ALRIGHT, WITH THAT WE'LL MOVE ON TO, UH, AGENDA ITEM FOUR, WHICH IS THE QUARTER B QUARTERLY BUDGET REPORT.
AND, UM, OUR CITY'S PLANNING MANAGER, ANDREW TRIPLE, WILL PRESENT THIS ITEM.
ACTUALLY CHAIR I'M GOING TO TURN TO, I THINK IS, IS DAVID ON ZOOM? YES, I AM ON ZOOM.
I'M HAPPY TO PRESENT THIS ITEM.
DO YOU NEED, DO YOU WANT ME TO BRING IT UP, DAVID? SURE, WHY NOT? OKAY.
UH, TONIGHT YOU'RE LOOKING AT Q1 OF FISCAL YEAR 2324 BUDGET REPORT FOR PUBLIC ART FUND.
WE ARE SLIGHTLY BEHIND ON BUDGET REPORTS BECAUSE OF THE NOVEMBER, DECEMBER MEETING.
UM, SO AT THE NEXT FEBRUARY PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE MEETING, YOU'LL BE LOOKING AT THE Q2 BUDGET, BUT, UM, AS NORMAL, UH, THERE ISN'T A FORMAL PRESENTATION ABOUT THIS, UM, ITEM AND DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY HIGHLIGHTS, BUT HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT COMMITTED EXPENSES OR ANYTHING THAT, UM, ANY EXPENSES FOR Q1 AND, UM, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT INCOME FOR, THERE AREN'T, THERE ISN'T ANY INCOME FOR Q1, BUT FOR Q2 AND Q3 AND BEYOND, UM, I MIGHT TAP ON ANDREW TRIPLE TO HELP COMMENT ON THAT.
BUT, UM, I DON'T THINK THERE'S MUCH ELSE TO SAY UNLESS THERE'S ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
COMMITTEE MEMBERS COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
I'M WONDERING IF BY NEXT MONTH WE COULD SEE A COST BREAKOUT FOR THE STAFF COSTS FOR EACH ONE, NOT JUST BY QUARTER, BUT UM, BY HOWEVER WE WOULD SAY IT FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE PROJECT UNTIL NOW.
UM, I WANNA, I WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE KEEPING AN EYE ON ALL THE EXPENSES, YOU KNOW, SO LIKE IF WE KNOW WE'RE SPENDING 15,
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BUT HOW MUCH IS THE STAFF? OR WE KNOW WE'RE SPENDING 25,000, HOW MUCH DOES IT ALL BREAK OUT? IS THAT POSSIBLE? UM, CHERYL, JUST TO RESPOND TO THAT QUESTION, ARE YOU LOOKING AT A PARTICULAR PROJECT OR MAYBE I MISSED THAT OR ARE YOU ASKING IN GENERAL? UM, IN GENERAL, JUST SO THAT WE'RE KEEPING AN EYE ON THAT PART OF, YOU KNOW, THE COMMITTEE RESPONSIBILITIES.I, I THINK WHAT, WHAT WE SHOULD, I MEAN, WE, WE HAVE THE, THE DATA AND WE CAN DO THAT.
I THINK WHAT WOULD BE INTERESTING WOULD BE TO, TO ANALYZE THE DATA TO COME UP WITH A, AN AVERAGE PERCENT SO THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT A PROJECT, WE UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, STAFF TIME IS 15% OF THE OVERALL PROJECT COST OR PROJECT BUDGET.
AND, UM, AND, AND I THINK THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD PERHAPS BE A MORE USEFUL NUMBER, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY ON THE PATHWAY TO, TO DEVELOPING THAT PERCENTAGE, WE WOULD PULL THOSE DATA AND HAVE THEM AVAILABLE.
ONE THING I'D, I'D LIKE TO ADD IS, IS I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO, UM, LOOK AT REARRANGING SOME OF THE DATA THAT WE PROVIDE FOR, FOR INSTANCE, IF WE COME BACK TO, UM, UH, LET'S SEE HERE, HERE, THE, THE COMMITTED FUNDS COMMITTED PROJECT FUNDS OF APPROXIMATELY 122,800.
WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO DO IS TO, TO UNDERSTAND THE AMOUNT THE FUNDS AVAILABLE FOR FUTURE PROJECTS IS TO DEDUCT THOSE COMMITTED FUNDS FROM, UM, THE ENDING BALANCE TO REALLY SEE WHAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE.
BUT AS WE NOTICE HERE, WE'VE GOT DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS IN THE PIPELINE THAT WOULD GENERATE, UM, PUBLIC ART FUNDS.
AND THOSE COMMITTED FUNDS TYPICALLY EXPEND OUT ACROSS FISCAL YEARS.
SO EVEN THOUGH, UM, YOU KNOW, WE MAY BE SHOWING, SAY FOR INSTANCE, UH, THE MCCHESNEY ACQUISITION COMMITTED AN AMOUNT OF A HUNDRED THOUSAND THAT MAY EXPEND OUT ACROSS, UM, FISCAL YEARS.
AND SO IT'S IMPORTANT I THINK, TO UNDERSTAND SORT OF HOW THE COMMITTED FUNDS ARE BEING EXPENDED, WHAT THE TIMELINES ARE LIKE, AND THEN HOW THAT AFFECTS, UM, THE ENDING BALANCE.
SO I THINK WORKING FORWARD WE'LL DO A BIT OF REORGANIZATION OF IT SO THAT WE CAN LOOK MORE QUICKLY TO THAT ENDING BALANCE AND REALLY SEE WHAT, WHAT FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE FOR FUTURE PROJECTS.
THAT'S GREAT TO HEAR YOU SAY THAT.
UM, DAVID HAS BROUGHT THIS TO A MUCH HIGHER LEVEL MM-HMM.
UM, I THINK WE'VE ASKED AFTER, AND I'VE DONE SO CLUMSILY SEVERAL TIMES OVER THE YEARS, UM, ABOUT WHAT YOU'VE JUST SUGGESTED AND TO WHAT, UM, TO, TO WHAT CHERYL SUGGESTED.
AND CHERYL, I THINK YOU MAYBE LOOKING AT JUST ANOTHER COLUMN IN THAT BOTTOM, UH, UM, IN THE BOTTOM CHART, UM, OR BOTTOM GRID THAT, UH, THAT INCLUDES THOSE, THOSE CUMULATIVE STUFF, EXPENDITURES FOR EACH PROJECT.
BECAUSE I DO THINK EVEN IF, I THINK WE DO GET ASKED BY PEOPLE ABOUT REALLY HOW MUCH IS THIS PROJECT COSTING? AND IT'S JUST USEFUL TO BE ABLE TO SAY LIKE, OKAY, THIS IS HOW MUCH WE'VE SPENT FOR THE ARTISTS, THIS IS HOW MUCH WE'RE GONNA SPEND FOR THE ARTISTS.
AND THEN THERE'S THAT COMPONENT OF STAFF TIME.
UM, BUT I'LL BRING UP SOMETHING ELSE UNLESS, UM, DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY, UM, QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS? YEAH, GO AHEAD.
YEAH, I HAD A QUESTION AND IT'S, MAYBE IT'S JUST, I JUST DON'T KNOW THE PROCESS HERE.
SO FOR ALL THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE POTENTIALLY ADDING TO THE, TO THE FUND, AT WHAT POINT DO THEY MAKE THE DECISION TO EITHER DO THE IN LIE FEE OR THEIR OWN ARTWORK AND, UM, AT WHAT POINT DO THEY CONTRIBUTE TO THE FUND? LIKE, I SEE THAT SOME ARE APPROVED, SOME ARE IN PROCESS.
JUST GENERALLY, HOW DOES, AT WHAT POINT DOES THE, THE FUND ACQUIRE THE, THE CONTRIBUTION? THAT'S A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
UH, DAVID, DO YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS? I CAN BRIEFLY TOUCH ON THAT.
UM, BUT YOU WOULD PROBABLY HAVE A MORE ROBUST, UM, EXPLANATION.
BUT ESSENTIALLY, AND THE BEFORE THE APPLICANT AND DEVELOPMENT GOES, WELL, WHILE THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THEIR BUILD BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS AND GATHERING WHAT THEY NEED FOR THE APPLICATION, UM, BEFORE THEY SUBMIT FOR THAT, UH, OR I GUESS AT THE TIME THAT THEY SUBMIT FOR THEIR BUILDING PERMIT IS WHEN THE DEVELOPMENT FEES ARE DUE.
AND AS PART OF THAT, THE PUBLIC ART FEE IS, IS BUILT INTO THERE.
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SO PRIOR TO THAT, STAFF WILL MEET WITH, UM, THEY'LL BE ASSIGNED A PROJECT PLANNER, UH, IN OUR PLANNING DIVISION TO WORK WITH THEM TO UNDERSTAND ALL THE REGULATIONS AND HOW THEY GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, WHETHER IT'S A HISTORIC SPAR PROCESS, A MINOR SPAR PROCESS.THEY'LL, THEY'LL GO THROUGH THAT WITH THE PLANNER AND THEN THEY'LL EXPLAIN, YOU KNOW, IS THIS A, UH, IS THIS A PROJECT THAT WILL TRIGGER PUBLIC ART FEES? AND, UM, THEY CAN MAKE THAT DECISION IF THEY'RE GONNA DO SOMETHING ON SITE OR IF THEY'D LIKE TO PAY THE, THE SAME AMOUNT, UM, TO THE ENLO FEE.
AND THE PART IS THEY NEED TO MAKE THAT DECISION BEFORE THEY GO INTO THE BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATION PHASE, UH, AND BEFORE THEY HAVE TO SATISFY ALL OF THAT, BEFORE THEY RECEIVE THEIR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.
SO, UM, ANDREW, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA ADD ON THAT? SURE.
SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, MY, MY I GUESS IMPRESSION OR EXPERIENCE IS THAT THE, UM, THE WILLINGNESS OF A DEVELOPMENT TEAM TO RESPOND TO THE PUBLIC ART REQUIREMENT BY IMPLEMENTING IT REALLY, I THINK DEPENDS UPON THEIR, THEIR COMFORT LEVEL AND, AND THEIR UNDERSTANDING OF PUBLIC ART AND THEIR EXPERIENCE WITH IT.
SO I, I DON'T, I I DON'T THINK IT'S, YOU SHOULDN'T PERCEIVE A DEVELOPMENT PROJECT THAT SAYS, I WOULD RATHER PAY THE IN LIEU FEE AS NOT CARING.
UH, IT, IT MAY WELL BE THAT THEY JUST KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT THEIR AREA OF EXPERTISE AND THEY FEEL THAT THE CITY IS, IS BETTER ABLE THROUGH ITS PUBLIC ART PROGRAM TO, TO EFFECTIVELY IMPLEMENT IT.
SO, YOU KNOW, WHEREAS THEN THAN OTHER PROJECTS, WE MAY FIND THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE ONE OF THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT TEAM MEMBER HAS AN INTEREST IN ART OR HAS EXPERIENCE.
AND SO THEY'RE MORE WILLING TO EMBRACE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO INTEGRATE PUBLIC ART INTO THEIR PROJECT.
UM, THE OTHER THING TOO IS, IS SOMETIMES IT, IT DEPENDS ON, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PROJECT LOCATION AND THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT.
AND SOMETIMES THE PUBLIC ART FUND DOES WANT THOSE IN LIEU FEES TO BE ABLE TO ADVANCE PUBLIC ART, UM, YOU KNOW, IN OTHER AREAS OF TOWN.
AND I KNOW THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PRIORITY FOR THE COMMITTEE, UM, TO ENSURE THAT ALL OF THE COMMUNITY HAS ACCESS TO PUBLIC ART.
SO WE TAKE ALL OF THAT INTO ACCOUNT AND, AND, UM, AND THROUGHOUT THE PLANNING REVIEW PROCESS, THEN OUR RESPONDING, YOU KNOW, WE INITIATE THE CONVERSATION WITH THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM AND THEN WE RESPOND TO QUESTIONS AND AND CONSIDERATIONS UNTIL THEY REACH THAT POINT OF DECIDING MM-HMM.
UM, THE, THE CHALLENGE EITHER WAY IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE IMPLEMENTATION OR THE, THE PAYMENT OF THE ENLO FEE HAPPENS WHEN THE BUILDING PERMIT IS ISSUED FOR CONSTRUCTION.
AND THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, ALWAYS EXAMPLES OF PROJECTS THAT NEVER ACHIEVE, UM, THAT CONSTRUCTION POTENTIAL OR ARE DELAYED.
SO I THINK IT'S, I THINK ANOTHER, UM, IT'S HELPFUL TO THINK ABOUT, FOR INSTANCE, AS, AS WE LOOK DOWN, UM, THROUGH THIS, I, I CAN TELL YOU THAT EIGHT 90 CO-OP IS, IS, IS STILL NOT, UM, HEADED TOWARDS CONSTRUCTION FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS.
THEY, THEY VERY MUCH WANT TO, BUT IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST PUTTING TOGETHER ALL OF THE VARIOUS COMPONENTS WHILE, UH, THE SILK MILL EDITION IS, UM, JUST FINALIZING A COUPLE OF THINGS TO HAVE ITS BUILDING PERMIT ISSUED.
SO THEY, THEY ALWAYS COME THROUGH, UH, SORT OF THAT PROCESS FROM DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL TO ISSUANCE OF BUILDING PERMIT AT VARYING STAGES AND FOR VARYING REASONS.
BUT, UM, AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE NEED TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT AS WE THINK ABOUT THE FUNDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
WE ALWAYS HAVE TO THINK THAT IN THAT DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL LIST, NOTHING'S GUARANTEED UNTIL IT, WE ACTUALLY SEE THAT BUILDING PERMIT COMING THROUGH.
YEAH, THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTIONS.
I'M REALLY LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, UM, AT WHAT POINT AND AT WHAT DOLLAR AMOUNT ARE OR ANY OF THESE POTENTIAL THINGS GONNA COME THROUGH TO US SO THAT WE CAN EXECUTE.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, FROM WHAT I'VE JUST HEARD, THERE'S NO WAY OF, YOU KNOW, REALLY KNOWING ANYTHING AT THIS POINT.
I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS, UH, THAT MAYBE, UH, DAVID OR MELISSA COULD ANSWER, UM, THE KENNELWORTH PARK, UM, ART COSTS AND FABRICATION AND CONSTRUCTION, UM, NOT BEING INCLUDED THERE.
UM, CAN YOU EXPLAIN, UM, OR AT LEAST GIVE US AN UPDATE ON WHAT THOSE EXPECTED COSTS WILL BE
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HAPPY TO TACKLE THIS ONE? UM, SO THE ONLY ACTION THAT THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE HAS TAKEN SO FAR IS TO GO INTO CONTRACT WITH OLEG, UM, LE BOYKIN TO DESIGN THE ARTWORK FOR THIS.AND OBVIOUSLY WE'VE PAID HIM THE FIRST INSTALLMENT FOR THAT, UM, SHOWING AS, YOU KNOW, $20,000 REMAINING OUT OF THE $30,000 CONTRACT.
AND SO, UH, I IMAGINE YOU'RE, UH,
AND SO THAT HAS COME UP, UH, IN RECENT PROJECT, UH, TEAM MEETINGS WITH THE MIG TEAM AND WITH THE PARKS AND REC TEAM.
AND SO, UH, I THINK IT'S A GOOD MOMENT TO CLARIFY THAT.
UM, THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE AND FUND AND PROGRAM ARE NOT ON THE HOOK FOR PAYING FOR THE ENTIRETY OF WHATEVER THE ART IS GOING TO END UP BEING.
UM, WHETHER THAT BE $110,000 COST OR A $210,000 COST, THAT IS NOT THE SOLE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PROGRAMMING COMMITTEE.
SO WE'VE BROACHED THIS SUBJECT WITH THE ARTIST AND WITH DREW HALTER, UM, WITH THE MIG TEAM.
AND SO, UH, ONCE THE ARTWORKS ARE SELECTED AND CONFIRMED AND THE SITE PLAN IS TAKEN TO COUNCIL AND IT'S APPROVED, UH, WILL BE, THAT'LL BE THE POINT WHERE THE PARKS AND REC TEAM AND MIG THAT PUT TOGETHER THE PROPOSAL AND DESIGN SITE DESIGN DESIGN PLAN WILL COME TO PUBLIC ART AND SAY, THE ARTWORK'S GONNA COST AROUND THIS MUCH MONEY FOR FABRICATION AND INSTALL.
AND WHAT WOULD, AS A STAKEHOLDER, HOW MUCH WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO, UH, TO PROVIDE AT THIS TIME TOWARDS THE PROJECT OR OVER A PERIOD OF TIME? AND ANYTHING THAT THE, IF THE ARTWORK, LET'S PLAY AROUND WITH SOME NUMBERS.
IF THE ARTWORK 10 IS GOING TO BE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS AND THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE SAYS WE WILL PAY $50,000, IT'S NOT TO SAY WE ONLY GET 50,000 OUT OF THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS PROJECT.
THE, WHEN THE PROJECT GOES OUT TO BID AND WE START FUNDRAISING, THAT WILL THAT DIFFERENCE AND THAT COST WILL BE FUNDRAISED AS WELL.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL HAVE TO DO, UM, IN CONCERT AND IN COLLABORATION WITH THE PARKS AND REC TEAM.
UM, AND, UM, AND WE WILL GO FROM THERE.
SO DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, CHRISTOPHER? YES.
SO WE CAN'T BE SPECIFIC ABOUT ANY EXPECTATION AT THIS POINT.
THERE MIGHT BE A RANGE THAT YOU CAN SORT OF PUT IN FRONT OF US BASED ON YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH THE CONVERSATION SO FAR.
BUT THIS, IT'S BOUND TO EVOLVE AND TO BE NEGOTIATED.
AND OUR PARTNER NEGOTIATION SOUNDS LIKE IF IT'S PARKS, THEN, UM, IT MIGHT BE A TOUGH NEGOTIATOR 'CAUSE THEY LACK GOOD LUCK.
SO, UM, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU HANDLE THE, I'M SORRY, UM, THE, THAT THE PUBLIC ART SPECIALIST HANDLES, UM, THE, THE DISCUSSIONS ON, ON THIS OR DOES THIS, UH, IN A PRELIMINARY WAY, UM, GET SORT OF, UH, POINTED OR HANDLED AND THEN IT COMES TO THE COMMITTEE TO DISCUSS? YEAH, SO, UM, ANOTHER GREAT QUESTION.
WE'RE GETTING TOWARDS A REALLY GREAT PART OF THE DESIGN PHASE WHERE IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, UM, THIS SPRING DEFINITELY THAT WE WILL BE SELECTING SOME ART, UM, FINAL SCULPTURES THAT WILL BE PLACED IN THE PARK THAT OLEG HAS COME AND SHOWN AT THE JOINT MEETING WITH RMPC.
SO THIS COMMITTEE WILL BE A, A PART OF SELECTING WHICH, WHICH, UH, SCULPTURES WERE THE FAVORITES AND WHICH ARE PRIORITIZED.
AND WE HAD A MEETING, UH, I THINK TWO WEEKS AGO TO TALK ABOUT THE FINAL HURDLES ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, AND NOW WE'RE GETTING INTO THE WEEDS ABOUT, UH, THE PARAMETERS OF, YOU KNOW, MEETING, MEETING SAFETY MEASURES AND MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S FALLIBLE SURFACING, UM, AROUND THEM.
AND DO WE HAVE THE, THE ACTUAL SURFACE AREA FOR THE SELECTED SCULPTURES.
BUT YES, I HAVE, UH, BEEN ADVOCATING THAT I WANT THIS COMMITTEE TO HAVE ONE MORE, UM, TAKE TO PRIORITIZE AND CREATE A HIERARCHY OF WHICH WERE THE FAVORITES THAT WE CAME OUT OF THIS PROCESS.
UM, THAT WILL GO, YOU KNOW, THOSE FINAL NOTES WILL GO INTO THE, THE SELECTION PROCESS.
AND, UM, AND YEAH, SO THAT WILL BE HAPPENING THIS SPRING.
AND MELISSA AND I WILL BE WORKING WITH OLEG, WITH THE MIG TEAM, WITH THE PARKS AND REC TEAM TO, UH, BRING THAT BACK TO PUBLIC ART WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT AND BEFORE IT GOES TO COUNCIL AND, UM, YOU KNOW, TO ITS FINAL RECOMMENDING BODY.
AND FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS DISCUSSION, IT SEEMS THAT WOULD SERVE THIS COMMITTEE AS SOON AS YOU GET A RANGE OF UNDERSTANDING OF THE, THE FUNDING REQUEST TO INCLUDE THAT IN THE BUDGET.
SO, UM, OR MAYBE WE COULD JUST EVEN EARLIER THAN THAT, IF IT, IF IT COMES UP, UH,
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YOU CAN BRING IT, WE, WE CAN BE UPDATED AT A MEETING AND HOW MUCH THOSE PERMITS ARE GONNA BE, THOSE ARE GONNA BE BIG PERMITS, RIGHT.THAT ARE GONNA EITHER FALL ON US OR PARKS AND REC OR NOT THE CITY TO JUST TAKE
WE'LL HOPE THAT THOSE WON'T FALL ON US, BUT, UM, THEY HAVE.
UM, LET'S SEE, UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THE BUDGET? I HAVE A FEW MORE.
SO, UM, THE, UH, FOR THE SCULPTURE THAT WAS REPAIRED AT, ON, UM, SOUTH POINT IS, IS THAT WHAT IT WAS AT SOUTH POINT? UM, I KNOW THAT WE'VE RECOUPED THE COSTS ON THAT FOR THE WORK THAT WAS DONE.
UM, AND THE QUESTION WAS, WAS POSED SEVERAL MEETINGS AGO ABOUT, UM, RECOUPING THE, UH, STAFF TIME COSTS FROM THE INSURANCE COMPANY AND WHETHER THAT WAS REQUEST WAS MADE AND GRANTED, OR IS THIS COMMITTEE OUT $3,000 OR THEREABOUTS BECAUSE OF AN UNFORTUNATE CAR ACCIDENT? UH, DAVID AND I SPOKE ABOUT THAT TODAY AND WITH THE, THE, UH, CITY'S RISK ASSESSMENT, UM, DID DETERMINE THAT INSURANCE WOULD NOT PAY FOR STAFF COSTS, THEY WOULD ONLY REIMBURSE FOR THE MATERIALS.
SO I BELIEVE THAT WE'RE STILL WAITING ON A REMAINDER INSTALLMENT, DAVID, TO, UM, FOR FULL REIMBURSEMENT.
BUT THEN THE 2278 STAFF COST OR STAFF TIME, UH, WOULD NOT BE REIMBURSED.
IS THAT CORRECT? I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT.
AND YEAH, THE, THERE WERE TWO PAYMENTS FOR THE REIMBURSEMENT OF, UM, PRESERVATION ARTS WORK WILL BE.
IT'S, UH, THE FIRST INSTALLMENT WAS IN Q2, AND THEN THE OTHER PAYMENT WAS IN Q3.
AND THEN THE LAST, UM, BIT THAT I HAD WAS, IS SOMETHING THAT'S ALWAYS SORT OF RIDDEN WITH ME AS I LOOK AT THESE BUDGETS AND, AND I'M, AND NOW I'VE GONE BACK AND TAKEN A, A CLOSER LOOK AT THE PAST YEAR.
UM, IF YOU ADD UP STAFF TIME FOR THIS, FOR THIS QUARTER, IT WAS ABOUT 30, ALMOST $32,000, UM, WHICH IS JUST ABOUT ON PAR WITH THE PRECEDING FOUR QUARTERS.
SO THIS BODY SPENDS SPEND ABOUT $126,000 LAST YEAR ON STAFF TIME.
AND I'LL LEAVE IT TO YOU GUYS TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE COMMISSIONS WE'VE DONE, HOW MUCH ARTISTS HAVE BEEN PAID, AND HOW MUCH OTHER PEOPLE HAVE BEEN PAID FOR THE WORK.
UM, I'D ALSO LEAVE IT TO YOU ALL TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE, THE PUBLIC ART ORDINANCE AND UNDERSTAND THE PERCENTAGE THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE, UM, PUTTING TOWARD DIFFERENT, THE DIFFERENT BUCKETS THAT WE HAVE HERE.
AND, UH, IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, I'D BE INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT YOU THINK AND MAYBE WE CAN HAVE A FUTURE DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT WITH NO OTHER COMMENTS.
WE'LL CLOSE THIS ITEM AND MOVE ON TO, UH, AGENDA NINE.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
IS THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM OUR NOVEMBER MEETING.UM, ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, ISSUES WITH THE MINUTES? UH, I DO HAVE, UM, A COUPLE THINGS ON THE, ON OUR AGENDA FOR TODAY.
UM, COMMITTEE MEMBER HANNAH RE, UH, HER NAME IS, NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED, AND I THINK THAT'S THE SAME WITH THE, WITH A COUPLE INSTANCES IN THE, UM, IN, IN THE MINUTES.
ALSO, COMMITTEE MEMBER MORAN IS, UM, I THINK HIS NAME NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED AS WELL.
SO, HANNAH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD? SURE.
UM, HANNAH, H-A-N-N-A-H, PALINDROME, UM, RIZZO, R-I-Z-Z-O, AND THEN SIMONS, S-I-M-O-N-S.
AND ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION, UM, WE'VE GONE BACK AND FORTH OVER THE YEARS ABOUT, UM, APPROVING THE MINUTES, AND, UM, IN THIS CASE IT'S SUGGESTING THAT WE ACTUALLY VOTE ON IT.
UM, WOULD YOU LIKE, IS IS THAT THE APPROPRIATE WAY OF DOING IT OR CAN WE SIMPLY ASK FOR, UM, POTENTIAL CHANGES OF NO CHANGES THEN APPROVE THEM? UH, THAT'S AT YOUR, YOUR DISCRETION CHAIR.
THE, THE, UM, ENABLING LEGISLATION DOESN'T REQUIRE A VOTE, UH, BUT DIFFERENT COMMITTEES AND COMMISSIONS WILL
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OFFER A VOTE TO THEIR MEMBERS.UM, SO WHICHEVER YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO, I THINK IT'S PERFECTLY APPROPRIATE TO ASK FOR ANY CHANGES AND, AND THEN DIRECT THAT THE, UH, THE MINUTES ARE THEN, UM, FINAL AND APPROVED.
AS LONG AS THE, UH, NAMES ARE CORRECTED.
UM, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER OBJECTIONS OR ADDITIONS, WE'LL UH, APPROVE THE MINUTES AS WRITTEN.
AND WE'LL CLOSE OUT THAT AND MOVE ON TO AGENDA
[PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION]
ITEM SIX, WHICH, UM, ACCORDING TO MY NOTES, YOU'RE GONNA BE HANDLED BY, UM, BY, UH, BY OUR PLANNING MANAGER ANDREW TRIPLE, TOGETHER WITH THE MBK APPLICANT TEAM, WHICH DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE HERE.SO, IS THAT A SIR? WE'RE ON THE CALL.
CHRISTOPHER, I'LL ACTUALLY BE DOING THE INTRODUCTION IF THAT'S OKAY FOR THE ITEM NUMBER SIX, THE HAVEN AT DEER CREEK PUBLIC ART.
TONIGHT WE ARE JOINED BY THE MBK RENTAL LIVING APPLICANT TEAM FOR THE HAVEN AT DEER CREEK PROJECT, LOCATED ADJACENT TO THE DEER CREEK VILLAGE SHOPPING CENTER AT RAINIER AVENUE IN NORTH MCDOWELL TO RECEIVE THEIR PUBLIC ART PROPOSAL, WE HAVE JOINED WITH US, LISA CABRAL, DIRECTOR OF DESIGN AND MARKETING, NICO MORALES, DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATE, AND ADRIAN LITMAN, SANTA ROSA BASED ARTIST WHO WILL BE PRESENTING THE PROPOSAL TONIGHT.
IT IS RECOMMENDED TO THE PETALUMA PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE TO PROVIDE NON-BINDING FEEDBACK TO THE APPLICANT TEAM ABOUT THEIR PROJECT ART PROPO, I'M SORRY, THEIR PUBLIC ART PROPOSAL AND APPROVE THE PROPOSAL, WHICH CERTIFIES THAT THEY HAVE SATISFIED THE CONDITIONS SET FORTH IN THE CITY'S CODE AND SPAR PROCESS FOR PUBLIC ART REQUIREMENTS.
THIS ITEM IS AN ACTION ITEM REQUIRING A VOTE FROM THE COMMITTEE FOR APPROVAL.
AND WITH THAT, I WILL TURN THE PRESENTATION OVER TO LISA NICO AND ADRIAN.
UM, AS MENTIONED, I'M THE DIRECTOR OF DESIGN AND MARKETING FOR MCARE RENTAL LIVING.
UH, CHAIR SMITH AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
THANK YOU GUYS FOR HAVING US TODAY AND, AND, UH, FOR YOUR REVIEW OF THIS PROPOSAL PRIOR TO.
HELLO, ADRIAN, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, SIR, I CAN.
SO I'LL JUMP RIGHT INTO THE PRESENTATION UNLESS THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS.
UM, WITHOUT GOING INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU'VE RECEIVED THIS IN ADVANCE.
UM, THEREFORE I WILL NOT, UM, GO INTO ALL DETAILS.
UM, AND I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM.
EVERYONE CAN SEE MY SCREEN CORRECT? UH, YES WE CAN.
UM, AS MENTIONED, WE ARE PROPOSING AN EXCITING AND CURATED PROGRAM, UH, FEATURING ADRIAN LITTMAN.
UH, WE ARE DOING FOUR PIECES OF ART THAT WILL BE SCHEDULED TO BE OUTDOORS.
THESE SCULPTURES WILL BE MADE OUTTA STAINLESS STEEL, IMPORTANT.
THEY'RE GONNA BE VERY DURABLE, LONG MAINTENANCE, OR, I'M SORRY, UH, MINIMUM MAINTENANCE, AND ALSO DESIGNED TO MEET PUBLIC SAFETY STANDARDS.
UM, THE GOAL IS TO CONNECT THE RESIDENTS OF OUR NEW APARTMENT COMMUNITY CALLED HAVEN.
THAT'S GOING TO BE OPENING MAY, JUNE, ALONG WITH A STRONG ART COMMITTEE THAT IS IN PETALUMA AND SONOMA COUNTY.
THESE SCULPTURES ARE INTENDED TO ENGAGE WITH THE COMMUNITY AND OUR RESIDENTS.
UM, THE NEXT COUPLE PAGES GOES OVER THE CRITERIA IN THE PROCESS.
IF THERE'S A PARTICULAR PAGE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE FOR ME TO STOP AND DISCUSS FURTHER, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
UM, THIS IS IN REGARDS TO THE MARKETING THAT WILL CONSIST OF THE PIECES AS WELL.
UM, THIS IS IN REGARDS TO THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WITHIN THE LOCAL PARTNERSHIP, SOCIAL MEDIA ENGAGEMENT, AS WELL AS LOCAL COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
UM, THESE ARE THE ADDITIONAL TERMS THAT WE AGREED UPON WITH THE ARTIST, AND I'LL JUMP RIGHT INTO THE SAMPLE OF ARTWORK.
UM, ADRIAN'S DONE A GREAT JOB OF PHOTOSHOPPING HIS ART ON TOP OF PEDESTAL ONE, AND THIS ONE'S CALLED MAGIC BIRDS.
DID YOU WANNA CHAT ABOUT THIS ONE, ADRIAN? UH, YEAH.
THE SIZE OF THIS WAS PRETTY MUCH DETERMINED BY THE FACT THAT THERE IS A THREE THAT KIND OF COVERS OVER THE, THE SPOT.
UM, I, UH, INTENDED TO DO THINGS A LITTLE HIGHER, SO, UH, WILL BE OUT OF REACH FROM PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, JUST IN CASE THEY WANNA VANDALIZE IT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT IN THIS CASE, I COULD NOT DO THAT BECAUSE OF THE TREE.
AND I REMEMBER I ASKED YOU IF, YOU KNOW, REMOVE THE TREE OR THEY'RE GONNA TRIM IT, AND PROBABLY THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN.
SO THIS IS WHAT I CAME UP WITH, UH, CONSIDERING THE RESTRICTIONS OF HEIGHT, UH, IT IS GONNA BE STILL ABOUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK I CAN GO ALMOST NINE FEET HIGH WITH IT, BUT THE
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PEDESTAL, IT'S ONLY ABOUT TWO FEET.SO, UM, I'LL TRY TO MAKE THE PIECES TO BE VERY TIGHT TOGETHER, ALMOST LIKE A BASKET OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT SO PEOPLE CANNOT GRAB ONTO IT.
UM, IT'LL BE DIFFICULT TO CLIMB ON IT, YOU KNOW, ALTHOUGH SOME TEENAGERS CAN BE REALLY CREATIVE IN GENERAL, UH, BUT LITTLE KIDS MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
AND, UM, IT IS EXPOSED TO GRAFFITI, BUT BEING METAL AND BEING CAUGHT, AND THAT'S GONNA BE VERY EASY TO REMOVE.
THERE'LL BE NO PROBLEMS AT ALL OTHER THAN THAT MUCH MORE DAMAGE CANNOT BE TO IT, UH, UNLESS SOMEBODY REALLY GETS MAD AND COMES TO WITH A HAM.
SO THE, UH, PIECES AT THE TOP, THIS, UH, THIS BIRDS, UM, I WAS THINKING MAYBE TO MAKE THEM, UM, KINETIC, UM, AT MY WORK AT THIS HEIGHT, USUALLY THE KINETIC STEPS HAS TO BE A LITTLE HIGHER TO GET THE DRAFT AND THE CURRENTS, YOU KNOW, BUT I'M GONNA PLAY WITH IT AND SEE HOW IT REACTS, UM, IF NOT COMPLETE, JUST FIXED.
AND I LOVE THAT, YOU KNOW, AS YOU MENTIONED IN YOUR DESCRIPTION AS WELL, HAS AN ORGANIC LOOK, INTEGRATION WITH THE LANDSCAPE.
AND, AND, UM, UH, THE GIVEN SUPPORT, THIS, UH, PEDESTALS, THEY'RE VERY ORGANIC LOOKING.
SO, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT THAT IT IS A LOT MORE APPROPRIATE TO DO SOMETHING THAT TIES INTO THAT LOOK THAN PUTTING ON SOMETHING THAT'S VERY MODERN AND VERY STERILE AND VERY INDUSTRIAL LOOKING.
UH, PLUS PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WOULD WALK AROUND AND I ASSUME THAT THIS APARTMENTS WOULD HAVE A LOT OF FAMILIES AND KIDS AND, UH, WOULD BE MORE INTERESTING FOR KIDS TO SEE, UM, NATURE'S ELEMENTS, YOU KNOW, AND, AND TRY TO LEARN FROM IT AND BE A LOT MORE, UH, INTRIGUED THAN JUST SOME BEAUTIFUL PIPES BENT AND, UH, WELDED TOGETHER.
I'LL GO THROUGH THE REST OF THE ARTWORK AND THEN, UM, I CAN COME BACK TO ANY PARTICULAR PIECES THAT THE COMMITTEE WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER.
UM, ARTWORK NUMBER TWO, WE HAVE THE MONARCH BUTTERFLY THAT'S GONNA BE LOCATED ON THE CONCRETE PAD, RIGHT? SO THIS IS GONNA BE ALSO, IT'S ALSO LIMITED BY THE HEIGHT, LIMITED BY THE TREE, THAT KIND OF, UH, POWER OVER IT.
UH, I MIGHT GO PROBABLY SEVEN, EIGHT FEET HIGH MAXIMUM, AND I'LL TRY TO MAKE IT, UH, KIND OF NARROW IS GONNA BE PROBABLY NOT MORE THAN TWO INCHES.
AND BECAUSE OF THE SHAPE, UM, CLIMBING AND IT'LL BE IMPOSSIBLE.
I, I DON'T SEE HOW ANYBODY CAN DO THIS.
SO IT'S ALL STAINLESS STEEL AND CORE 10, UM, MAINTENANCE IS ALMOST MINIMAL OVER THE YEARS.
UM, GRAFFITI CAN BE VERY EASILY REMOVED, YOU KNOW, FROM THIS.
UM, OTHER THAN THAT, I, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE, THAT'S FINE.
NO, NO MAJOR PROBLEMS WITH IT.
AND THEN WE HAVE A SAMPLE OF YOUR ARTWORK NUMBER THREE.
SO THIS IS, UM, A LOCATION WHERE I CAN GO HIGHER AND TRY TO KEEP THE ELEMENTS AWAY FROM, UH, TOUCHED.
UM, I WAS THINKING TO, UH, USE THE HEARTS BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF AN EMOTIONAL THING AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE LIKE TO FEEL MORE RELAXED WHEN, WHEN THEY SEE THAT.
AND IT'S LIKE A, A FAMILY AND THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.
SO I HEART DROPPED YET, AND IT'S KINETIC, SO IT MOVES.
UM, IT'LL BE PROBABLY ABOUT MAYBE 14.
AND AT THAT HEIGHT, YOU KNOW, THE CURRENTS, UM, UH, UM, PUSHING THE, THE ELEMENTS VERY NICELY.
UM, IT'LL GO VERY FAST WHEN YOU HAVE HIGH WINDS AND THEY'RE VERY, VERY SLOW, EVEN ON, ON NICE DAYS THAT HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A, UH, CURRENT YEP.
IT'S, UH, HOW MUCH THEY CAN DO TO IT.
I HAVE THINGS LIKE, LIKE THIS INSTALLED IN MANY CITIES, AND SO FAR NOTHING HAPPENS.
AND THE ELEMENTS WOULD BE NATURE ELEMENTS, MAYBE A LITTLE BUGS AND ANIMALS THAT LIVE AROUND THIS, UH, SPACE.
UH, LIKE A LADYBUG AND MAYBE BUTTERFLIES AND HUMMINGBIRDS AND MIX
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WITH A LITTLE BIT, UH, SHOOTING STARS.UH, YOU CAN SEE AT NIGHT WHEN YOU GO OUTSIDE.
AND, UH, THE, UH, SUPPORTING COLUMN THAT BE CORE 10 JUST TO TIE INTO THE, UH, LOOK AND THE QUALITY OF THE, AND THE TOP.
IT'S ALL, UH, STAINLESS STEEL ONCE AGAIN, UH, VANDALISM.
NOW, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THE ARTWORK OR WANNA SEE EITHER ONE OF THE FOUR THAT WERE SHOWED? YEAH, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.
THEY, THEY SEEM TO BE VERY EMOTIVE AND FUN AND WHIMSICAL AT THE SAME TIME.
SO I'M, I'M ENJOYING WHAT I'M SEEING.
UM, IN YOUR RENDERINGS, IT'S HARD TO GET AN IDEA OF SCALE, BUT FOR THE ONES THAT ARE, UM, FOR INSTANCE, THIS PIECE, IT'S 14 HEIGHT.
IS THAT THE, YOUR SCULPTURE OR YOUR SCULPTURE, OR DOES THAT INCLUDE THE PEDESTAL THAT'S ALREADY THERE? THAT INCLUDES THE PEDESTAL? IS THE WHOLE THING IS GONNA BE YET? UH, 'CAUSE I THINK THERE ARE SOME RESTRICTIONS IN GENERAL FROM THE CITIES.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE POLICY IS, UH, UH, IN PETA THAT IF YOU REACH OVER 15 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEN YOU NEED A SPECIAL STRUCTURE ENGINEERING APPROVED.
SO THEN THIS, IF IT'S TRUE HERE IN YOUR SITUATION.
SO THIS SCULPTURE IS 14 FROM THE, THE, THE BASE, THE FLOOR, RIGHT.
THE GROUND ALL THE WAY UP TO THE TOP.
YEAH, I CAN, I CAN GO, I CAN GO HIGHER IF I'M LOW.
BUT I KNOW THERE ARE LIMITATIONS AND THEN THIS, I DUNNO WHAT THE, I CAN FIND OUT.
WE CAN WORK ON THAT AND FIND OUT, UH, SURE.
UM, YEAH, I MEAN, WHATEVER YOU THINK PROPORTIONALLY WORKS WELL.
UM, AND I NOTICED THE HART'S VERSION, WHICH IS ALSO A KINETIC STRUCTURE ON A POST IS VERY CLOSE TO THAT PODIUM OR THAT, UM, THE PIECE OF THE, THE STONEWORK RIGHT NEXT TO IT.
AND I'M ASSUMING THERE'S A LAMP UP THERE AND, UH, IT, IT IS NOT THAT CLOSE, IT'S NOT THAT CLOSE.
THE OH, THE, OH, IT'S NOT SORT OF THE YEAH, THE VIEW.
IT'S, IT IS JUST, UH, UM, JUST THE WAY, THE ANGLE OF THE PHOTO.
JUST THE WAY THE WAY THE ANGLE IS.
AND ON THE OTHER SIDE, THERE IS A THREE, SO I KIND OF TRY TO FIGURE OUT TO PUT IT IN THE MIDDLE.
SO IT WOULD BE VISUALLY NOT COLLIDING WITH ANY OF THOSE THINGS.
I MEAN, TWO OF THEM SORT OF SIT ON THE GROUND AND THE OTHER TWO ARE, ARE, YOU KNOW, ON THESE POSTS.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF, IF THESE ARE EARMARKED FOR THESE PARTICULAR PLACES WHERE YOU FELT LIKE, YES, THIS WAS THE BEST ARRANGEMENT, THESE ARE THE ONES SELECTED.
YEAH, I ALWAYS WANTED TO, AS I SAID, TO MAKE 'EM TALLER, TO KEEP IT AWAY FROM PEOPLE TOUCHING THE DETAILSS, BUT THE SHORT ONES ARE LIMITED BY THE TREES THAT ARE ABOVE MM-HMM.
THERE'S, THERE'S, SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
THERE'S ONLY ONE THAT'S ON THE GROUND OVER TOWARDS THE BUTTERFLY.
OH YEAH, THIS IS ON THE GROUND NEXT TO IT.
THE VERY FIRST ONE, IT'S ON THE PEDESTAL, BUT MM-HMM.
THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
LISA, LISA, EXCUSE ME, LISA, UH, DO YOU BY ANY CHANCE HAVE A SITE PLAN SHOWING THE LOCATIONS OF WHERE THESE WILL BE INSTALLED? YOU KNOW WHAT, LET'S SEE HERE.
YOU CAN STILL SEE MY SCREEN, RIGHT? YEAH.
IT MIGHT BE GREAT TO, UM, TO GO TO GOOGLE MAPS AND JUST POINT OUT WHERE, WHERE THE, UH, INSTALLATIONS WOULD BE OR PLANNED.
YEAH, THERE IS A PATHWAY THAT GOES AROUND THIS, UH, IN AREA.
SO THESE FIRST THREE ARE, UM, ON THE PATH CLOSE TO THE BUILDING, UH, THE CONSTRUCTION SITE.
THEN THE ONE ON THE CONCRETE PAD IS JUST PROBABLY, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE 20 FEET AWAY.
AND THE OTHER ONE IS WAY AT THE END OF THE PAD, AND THEN THE PAD GOES AROUND OVER A LITTLE BRIDGE.
AND THEN THERE IS THE OTHER LOCATION, WHICH IS VERY CLOSE TO THE EXISTING BUILDINGS ON THE PORTS, UH, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND THEN THE REST OF THE PAD COMES BACK TO CLOSE THE LOOP AND THERE'S NOTHING BUT THESE THREE ARE CLOSE TO THE CONSTRUCTION SITE.
I HAVE IT UP IF YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT ON GOOGLE IMAGES.
SO THIS IS, UM, THE MIXED USE CENTER HERE.
SO THIS IS THE COMMERCIAL AND, UH, OUR RESIDENTIAL
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PROJECT HERE.AND THEN THIS IS THE, UM, PRESERVE AREA AND THE WALKWAYS THAT WAS JUST MENTIONED, UH, BY ADRIAN.
SO THE FIRST, UH, PEDESTAL, UH, IS ON THIS SIDE, I BELIEVE IT'S KIND OF HIDDEN BEHIND.
THERE'S A USUALLY RIGHT HERE ON THE CORNER, RIGHT HERE ON THE CORNER.
YEAH, RIGHT HERE ON THE CORNER.
THERE'S A TREE IN HERE, SOMETHING.
THEY'RE ALMOST MARKED BY WHERE THESE BENCHES ARE LOCATED AS WELL.
WHICH I THINK IS, THAT'S A CONCRETE, THAT'S A CONCRETE PAD PAD RIGHT HERE.
THAT WOULD BE THE, THE WHERE THE BUTTERFLY WAS SHOWN.
AND THEN ALL THE WAY DOWN HERE, IT'S THE, THE HEARTS.
AND THIS IS KIND OF NEAR, AS YOU GET CLOSER TO THE DOG PARK.
AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PATH, THEN YOU GO AROUND AND THEN RIGHT THERE, SOMEWHERE IN HERE, YEAH, THERE IS A LITTLE PAD THAT YOU CAN SEE HERE.
THERE'S LITTLE BLACK, SORRY, I CAN'T ZOOM IN MUCH FARTHER THAN THAT, BUT WE COULD CERTAINLY PUT TOGETHER A, A MORE FORMAL SITE PLAN.
SO THAT'S WHERE THE OTHER ONE GOES RIGHT THERE.
NOW, THIS, THIS IS REALLY HELPFUL.
IS THAT THE, UM, END OF THE PRESENTATION? CORRECT.
THE LAST SLIDE WAS JUST DISCUSSING THE BUDGET, SO NOTHING FURTHER TO SHARE.
SORRY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS ON THE ARTWORK? DO WE WANNA REVISIT THOSE AGAIN OR ALL QUESTIONS ANSWERED? I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ARTWORK.
THE, UM, THE, FOR OUR, UM, OUR STAFF REPORT DID HAVE A SITE PLAN IN IT, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.
UM, IT ALSO HAD, IT MADE REFERENCE TO THE MASTER PLAN THAT CAME FROM MERONE, GYER, WHOEVER THE PREVIOUS DEVELOPER WAS.
UM, AND I GOTTA SAY IT WAS DIFFICULT FOR ME TO SORT OF DIGEST ALL OF THAT TO BEGIN WITH.
AND THIS IS NOT, THIS IS NOT MK N'S, UM, DOING IT ALL.
THIS IS JUST THE WAY THAT THE CONTENT WAS PRESENTED TO US AND MAYBE SOME OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBERS FEEL THE SAME WAY.
BUT, UM, IT WAS HARD FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS BEFORE, UM, WHAT WAS INCOMPLETE, UM, WHEN THE, WHEN THE MASTER PLAN WAS APPROVED, UM, AND THEN REALLY HOW THAT TRANSITION BETWEEN A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT INTO A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT SORT OF BROUGHT ABOUT YOU GUYS CHOOSING TO, OR BEING COMPELLED TO, UM, PROVIDE ARTWORK HERE.
SO CAN YOU JUST CLARIFY FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE AS, AS THE APPLICANT, HOW, UM, WHY YOU'RE, WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS? UM, YEAH, YEAH.
NO, THAT'S, I CAN SPEAK, SORRY.
I CAN SPEAK TO THAT IF YOU'D LIKE.
UM, YEAH, THIS WAS ONE OF THE SPARK CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FOR THE PROJECT.
MERONE GEIER WAS THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPER.
THIS WAS ORIGINALLY ALL THOUGHT TO BE A COMMERCIAL CENTER.
UH, AND THEN I THINK THROUGH, UH, AND, AND MAYBE DAVID CAN SPEAK TO THIS MORE AS I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, WE CAME INTO THE PROJECT, I WANNA SAY IN 20 21, 20 22, UM, AND WHEN THEY HAD THOUGHT THAT, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL RETAIL MIGHT NOT BE THE BEST USE FOR THIS, UH, PORTION OF THE MASTER PLAN, AND THEY THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIAL WOULD, WOULD FIT BETTER HERE IN THE COMMUNITY, MAKING THIS INTO A MIXED USE, UH, DISTRICT, THAT THE ORIGINAL, UH, ART PROGRAM THAT WAS THOUGHT OF, UM, HAD TO BE KIND OF RESTRUCTURED GIVEN, YOU KNOW, SOME SITUATIONS WITH THE PREVIOUS ARTIST AND THIS NEW DESIGN WITH THE, WITH THE RESIDENTIAL.
AND SO ONE OF OUR CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL WAS TO, UM, HAVE THESE ART PIECES INSTALLED ON THE PEDESTALS THAT WERE DONE BY THE PREVIOUS DEVELOPER.
UM, AND, BUT I'M, I'M SURE DAVID WARD COULD SPEAK BETTER TO KIND OF THE PROCESS AND, AND HOW IT TRANSITIONED.
UM, THANKS SO MUCH FOR SUMMARIZING THAT.
AND, UH, THAT'S ESSENTIALLY IT.
SO CONDITION NINE OF THE SPAR PROCESS FOR THE MBK DEVELOPMENT, UH, WAS TO ADDRESS THE INCOMPLETE ART WALK, IS WHAT IT'S REFERRED TO IN THE MASTER ART PROGRAM THAT MERONE GEIER PUT TOGETHER.
AND, UM, AND THAT ART WALK WAS INTENDED TO HAVE A ROTATING EXHIBITION OF, OF PUBLIC ART, UM, FOR, UH, AN AMOUNT OF TIME THAT I, I'M NOT EXACTLY CLEAR OF HOW LONG IT WAS SUPPOSED TO SUSTAIN, BUT IN ESSENCE, UH, CONDITION NINE WAS SAYING, UM, TO ADDRESS THIS AND THE MVK TEAM WAS, UH, PRETTY MUCH GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, DO YOU WANT TO PICK UP THAT PROGRAM, THAT ROTATING, UH, PUBLIC ART PROGRAM THAT HAS THE INFRASTRUCTURE ALREADY CREATED ON SITE? OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO SOMETHING ELSE? AND IF
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THERE IS SOMETHING ELSE THAT YOU'D LIKE TO DO WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, EG INSTALL PERMANENT PUBLIC ART LIKE THEY'RE PROPOSING, UM, ANY, UM, ANY WAY THAT YOU'D LIKE TO CHANGE THAT PLAN WOULD GO BEFORE THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE, BECAUSE THAT ORIGINAL APPROVAL BACK IN 2013 FOR THE MERONE GEIER, UH, MASTER ART PROGRAM IS NOW AUGMENTED.AND SO THAT'S WHY THEY'RE HERE.
AND, UM, THEY'RE MAKING THIS INVESTMENT INTO THE SITE AND, UH, CHOOSING ARTWORK THAT IS IN THE SAME CONTEXT AND SIMILAR SCALE TO THE ART THAT WAS INTENDED TO BE IN THE ART WALK OF THE ORIGINAL MASTER ART PROGRAM.
AND I HOPE THAT EXPLAINS HOW CHAP, OR EXCUSE ME, CHAPTER 18, BUT ALSO CONDITION NINE OF SPAR IS MET THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
UM, APOLOGIES TO THE APPLICANT HERE BECAUSE I GOT YOUR NAME WRONG.
I CONFUSED YOUR ACRONYM WITH ANOTHER ACRONYM FROM ANOTHER DEVELOPER.
SO, UM, THAT QUESTION WAS BORN OF THE SITE PLANS THAT WERE PART OF THE MASTER PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED FOR MALONE GEIER, AND ALSO, I GUESS THE, UM, PLAN THAT YOU HAVE WITH, UM, ADRIA LITMAN.
AND THERE WERE SIX PEDESTALS OR SOME SORT OF PADS, UM, AND NOW THEY'RE, AND FOUR ARE BEING FILLED BY THIS.
DO YOU HAVE PLANS FOR THE OTHER TWO? WE DON'T.
UM, PART OF OUR CONDITION WAS TO DO FOUR OF 'EM, AND SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE HAD PLANNED FOR.
UM, THAT'S ALL WE REALLY HAVE AT THIS POINT.
WELL, AS FAR AS I CAN SEE THERE, NO, IT ABSOLUTELY MEETS ALL OF THE, UM, CONDITIONS, UM, SET FORTH IN THE ORDINANCE.
SO I WOULD HAVE, UM, I THINK THEY'VE CHOSEN WISELY AND THEY CAN MOVE ON.
BUT ONE, ONE OTHER QUESTION JUST ABOUT THE, THE BUDGET THAT YOU'VE, THERE ARE TWO NUMBERS IN THERE IS ONE THE ARTIST'S FEE AND ONE IS THE TOTAL COST OF THE PROJECT, INCLUDING INSTALL? YEAH.
SO THE, THE TWO FEES IS ONE IS, UM, JUST THE SPLIT, THE, THE 50% DEPOSIT THAT HE GETS UP FRONT, AND THEN THE OTHER 50% IS AT FINAL INSTALLATION.
I, I HAD ONE OTHER OBSERVATION.
I, WHEN I WAS READING THIS, WHEN IT, WHEN IT WAS PRESENTED TO US, UM, YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT THERE WOULD BE SORT OF AN ART WALK, AN INFORMATIONAL MAP.
UM, CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT? BECAUSE I WOULD, I WOULD HOPE THAT IT WOULD BE IN THE DIGITAL REALM BECAUSE IN THAT AREA, YOU KNOW, UM, I WOULD THINK THAT PAMPHLETS OR LEAFLETS OR THINGS MIGHT BECOME AIRBORNE AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S SO MUCH RETAIL OUT THERE, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT WOULD BE THE BEST USE OF, UM, WELL, CONSERVATION RESOURCES.
YEAH, I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE FLYERS WAS, WHO MENTIONED THE FLYERS.
UM, OUR INTENT FROM MK IS NOT TO HAVE ANY FLYERS AT ANY OF THE, THE PEDESTALS.
WE CAN DO, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS A QR CODE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, ALONG THOSE LINES, UH, THAT KIND OF TIES BACK INTO TO ADRIAN'S ARTWORK, UH, OR HIS WEBSITE, OR TIES INTO, YOU KNOW, CREATIVE SONOMA OR TIES INTO THE CITY OF PET, UH, PETALUMA, WHATEVER WE WANT THAT TO, TO LINK INTO.
IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, THEN WE CAN DEFINITELY MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
I THOUGHT I HAD READ THAT YOU ALL WOULD BE PUTTING UP SOME SORT OF DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE AT THE FRONT OF THE ART WALK THAT WOULD HAVE PAMPHLETS.
I'VE PICKED THAT UP SOMEWHERE IN WHAT I, I, WHAT I READ.
SO MAYBE THAT WAS THE, I THINK FIRST, YEAH, I THINK THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN PART OF THE ORIGINAL MASTER PLAN.
UM, THAT I GOT CONFUSED ON AS WELL.
BUT IT WOULD BE GREAT TO SEE, YOU KNOW, INFORMATION ABOUT ADRIAN SOMEWHERE BECAUSE, UH, A LOT OF THE PIECES OUT THERE AT THAT COMPLEX OR REALLY FASCINATING AND, UM, MM-HMM.
I'M GONNA PUT YOUR LITTLE BIO HEADSHOT ON EVERY PIECE AND
WE'LL DEFINITELY HAVE, UH, A STORY FOR ADRIAN.
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO DOING WHEN WE HAVE OUR, YOU KNOW, FULL OPENING THE, UH, THE LATER PART OF THIS YEAR AROUND OCTOBER, UM, AT OUR BRAND OPENING, HAVE ADRIAN THERE, UH, MEET THE ARTIST EVENT, UM, YOU KNOW, PHOTOGRAPHY AND, AND REALLY HAVING A, A GREAT TIME AND HOPEFULLY SEEING EVERYBODY THERE AS WELL.
IF THERE'S A, UM, IS THERE A, UM, A PROHIBITION AGAINST THE CHAIR MAKING A MOTION OR NO CHAIR? YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION.
THEN I, THEN I MOVE TO APPROVE, UH, THE PUBLIC ART PROPOSAL BY MBK DEVELOPMENT TEAM AND CERTIFY THE CITY RESOLUTION.
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I'LL SECOND COMMITTEE MEMBER INE.THANK YOU FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION AND THANKS FOR BRINGING MORE ART TO PETALUMA.
THANK YOU CHAIR AND THANK YOU COMMITTEE.
AND AT THIS POINT, I GUESS WE CAN OPEN THIS TO, UM, PUBLIC COMMENT.
UM, SEE NO ONE HAVING SUBMITTED A COMMENT CARD, I'LL ASK YOU, WERE THERE ANY COMMENTS AHEAD OF THE MEETING? NO PUBLIC COMMENTS WERE PROVIDED PRIOR TO THIS MEETING.
THEN WITH THAT, WE'LL, UH, CLOSE THIS AGENDA ITEM.
AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM SEVEN, THE AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS.
AND THIS IS WHERE WE ALL GET TO VOLUNTEER, UM, TO DO SOME SPECIFIC WORK ON SPECIFIC PROJECT IN THE COMING MONTHS.
UM, AND THIS, UM, THE CITY'S PLANNING MANAGER, ANDREW TRIPLE, WILL, UH, HANDLE THIS UNLESS SOMEONE ELSE IS SUPPOSED TO BE HANDLING THIS
UM, MELISSA AND DAVID, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO, UH, INTRODUCE THIS ITEM OR PROVIDE ANY GUIDANCE.
THE ONLY THING I WAS THINKING, WE, WE HAVE, UM, WELL, WE, HOW MANY ABSENCES, OR NOT ABSENCES, BUT UNFILLED POSITIONS ON THE COMMITTEE? IS THAT ONE OR TWO? ONE.
AND THEN WE HAVE ONE ABSENCE RIGHT THIS EVENING.
SO I, I WAS GONNA SAY WE COULD CONTINUE THE ITEM UNTIL THE NEXT AGENDA, IF THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL.
UM, YOU KNOW, JUST THINKING, GIVE PEOPLE TIME TO THINK ABOUT WHAT THEY MIGHT WANT TO VOLUNTEER FOR, BUT THEN ALSO TO HAVE ANOTHER COMMITTEE MEMBER PRESENT.
YEAH, I'M SEEING NODS IN AGREEMENT.
SO LET'S, UM, CONTINUE THIS TO THE NEXT MEETING.
OKAY, WITH THAT, WE'LL, UH, CLOSE OUT AGENDA ITEM SEVEN AND MOVE TO, UH, EIGHT.
UH, CAN I SAY SOMETHING REAL QUICK? SORRY, I CAME SO I COULD BE PART OF THE VOTING TONIGHT.
MY SON GETS TO PLAY AT HALFTIME BETWEEN THE, THE CASA AND PETALUMA GAME OVER AT CASA.
SO I WAS HOPING IF I'M NO LONGER NEEDED, IF I COULD GO, UH, CATCH HALFTIME AT 7 45 AND WATCH THESE LITTLE 11 YEAR OLDS PLAY IN A, A FULL BASKETBALL STAND.
'CAUSE IT'S CROSS TOWN RIVAL GAME.
UH, IS IT, DOES THAT MEAN YOU HAVE NO COMMITTEE COMMENT? YOU WILL HAVE NOTHING FOR COMMITTEE COMMENT, WHICH IS THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.
I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT FROM PARKS AND REC.
SO I WAS GONNA SAY SOMETHING THAT INVOLVES, THAT COULD INVOLVE YOU, BUT I CAN SHARE THAT WITH YOU LATER ON OUTSIDE OF THE MEETING.
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COMMITTEE COMMENT AND, UH, FOR COMMITTEE COMMENT, UM, I'D LIKE TO, UH, GO GOING FORWARD, LIKE TO MAKE, UM, SURE THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO TWO THINGS AS COMMITTEE MEMBERS AT EACH MEETING.UM, LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN, UM, HAVE SUBSTANTIVE UPDATES FROM SUB FROM MEMBERS OF EACH AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST, BUT, UM, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD SUCH A HIGH FUNCTIONING, UM, STAFF LIAISON, HE, UM, ENDS UP DOING A LOT OF THE UPDATES AND, BUT I THINK ONE OF THE ADVANTAGES, AND I WILLING TO TAKE SOME CRITICISM ON THIS, BUT ONE OF THE ADVANTAGES OF HAVING SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBERS REPORT OUT THEMSELVES IS IT ASKS THEM TO, TO COORDINATE AHEAD OF TIME ON THE PROJECTS THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON.
AND MAYBE THERE'S NOTHING TO REPORT ABOUT.
IT MIGHT GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY ALSO TO, TO, TO UPDATE YOURSELVES, UM, FROM WHAT STAFF HAS LEARNED.
SO EACH, EACH COMMITTEE COMMENT, THEN, UM, YOU CAN CHOOSE SOMEONE AND EACH SUBCOMMITTEE CAN THEN REPORT BACK ON THAT.
AND THEN THE SECOND COMPONENT WOULD BE THE, UM, WHAT YOU'VE SEEN IN THAT, IN SORT OF LIKE WHAT KEVIN, UM, PRESENTED TODAY, BUT WHAT YOU'VE, UH, WHAT YOU'VE LEARNED ABOUT
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THE OUTSIDE WORLD SINCE THE LAST MEETING AND HOW THIS COMMITTEE COULD, UM, COULD PLAY A ROLE IN IT AND WHAT YOU CAN BRING TO THE WAY THIS COMMITTEE FUNCTIONS.SO ANYTHING YOU OBSERVE AND YOU WANNA SHARE THAT'S WITH, UM, THAT RELATES TO THIS COMMITTEE'S BUSINESS.
I DO HAVE SOMETHING, UM, WALKING AROUND DOWNTOWN, RIGHT BY THE YACHT CLUB.
THERE'S THREE LARGE ELECTRICAL BOXES THAT ARE CURRENTLY COVERED IN JUST KIND OF PATCHY BROWN GRAFFITI CLEANUP, AND I THINK THAT'D BE AN EASY LOW HANGING FRUIT FOR, TO PAINT MURALS AND REALLY BEAUTIFIED DOWNTOWN.
SO MAYBE WE CAN CONSIDER THAT FOR OUR SMALL ART PROJECTS BUDGET LATER ON.
THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE AT THE, UH, WHAT WAS THE BASIN STREET DEVELOPMENT, UM, OR OVER PROVIDE THE, IF I COULD COMMENT SUBSTATION FOR A MINUTE TO THIS.
UM, I WANTED TO GIVE AN UPDATE THAT, THAT ONE OF THE UTILITY BOXES AT THE SITE WHERE ADOBE VINEYARDS IS BEING BUILT OR IS SLATED TO BE BUILT, THAT IS STILL GOING TO BE PAINTED THROUGH BID FUNDS THROUGH THE DOWNTOWN ASSOCIATION, UH, BY RYAN PETERSON.
AND SO THAT IS ACTUALLY COMING FORWARD IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, BUT I WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE THAT ONE OF THOSE IS BEING HANDLED ALREADY.
SO, UM, SO WE'LL GO ON WITH COMMITTEE COMMENT.
UM, ANYTHING MORE FROM YOU, KEVIN? NOPE, THAT'LL DO IT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM COMMITTEE MEMBERS? I, I HAVE A COMMENT THAT, UM, JUST TO REITERATE, I THINK YOU ALL PROBABLY GOT AN INVITATION FROM OLE OLE LOKEN.
HE HAS A SHOW THIS SATURDAY AT THE MUSEUM OF SONOMA COUNTY AT 5:00 PM IT'S A SCULPTURE SHOW THAT WE'VE BEEN INVITED TO.
SO IF ANYONE HAS BANDWIDTH TIME OR INTEREST, I'LL SEND IT TO YOU.
YEAH, IT COULD BE A GOOD SHOW AND IT WOULD BE A GREAT TIME TO REMEET AND INTRODUCE OLEG.
UM, SO ANYWAY, AND YOU SAID THAT WAS AN EMAIL INVITATION? I DON'T THINK I RECEIVED THAT.
WELL, I CAN REPORT ON, UM, A, A FEW THINGS, UM, ON FINE BALANCE AS A SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBER.
UM, I THINK, UH, OUR PUBLIC ART SPECIALIST, ABERCROMBIE CAN, CAN BACK ME UP ON THIS OR CAN FILL IN THE GAPS, BUT WE HAVE A, UH, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE ARTIST HAS HAD HIS, UM, BUILDING PERMIT ISSUED.
UM, WE DO NOT HAVE A A, UM, WE DON'T KNOW MUCH MORE THAN THAT, BUT, UH, THERE'S BEEN TALK OF OF HAVING A, A SITE VISIT, UM, SORRY, A STUDIO VISIT.
UM, THERE'S, AND WITH REGARD TO THE SITE ITSELF, THERE'S BEEN, UM, NO PROGRESS BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN NO RESPONSE FROM THE CITY ABOUT THE OUTREACH, UM, THAT WE'VE PERFORMED FOR, UM, THE COMMUNITY SOURCE, UM, SITE IMPROVEMENTS.
AND, UM, TO THAT END, I THINK I'M GOING TO, UH, BE IN TOUCH WITH ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT JUST SAY WE'RE NOT, IT'S MOST LIKELY NOT GONNA HAPPEN DUE TO LACK OF CITY SUPPORT.
UM, MAYBE SOMETHING WILL TURN, UM, FOR THE BETTER.
UM, BUT PART OF THAT IS THE, UM, IS THE LIGHTING COMPONENT FOR THIS, UM, SCULPTURE, WHICH I GUESS, UM, MELISSA CAN, CAN EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN I CAN, HOW IT BREAKS DOWN OR HOW IT'S, UM, IT'S, THE ARTIST IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE LIGHTING ON OF THE SCULPTURE.
HE'S NOT RE RESPONSIBLE FOR BRINGING POWER TO IT.
UM, SO THE SOLUTION, THE WORKING SOLUTION RIGHT NOW IN THEORY IS A SOLAR INSTALLATION, WHICH, UM, CAN PROVIDE THE, THE, THE POWER TO THE PIECE.
UM, THE QUESTION FOR STAFF THEN IS HAS THAT BEEN AUTHORIZED, UM, BY THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TO BE ABLE TO INSTALL THAT IN THE PARK? UM, THAT'S A QUESTION I GUESS YOU COULD ASK LATER ON.
UM, YOU CAN ANSWER IN A LITTLE BIT.
AND THEN, UM, ANOTHER PROJECT SUBCOMMITTEE REPORT WOULD BE AT THE DAVID BEST RIVER ARCH.
THE, UH, AT THE LAST MEETING WE PURCHASED A, UM, UM, AGREED TO PURCHASE A BENCH THAT'S GONNA BE INSTALLED.
UM, THAT'S PART OF WHAT IS NOW THANKFULLY AN OFFICIAL, UM, SITE IMPROVEMENT PLAN HANDLED BY, UM, SENIOR TRAFFIC ENGINEER KEN IADT, WHO, UH, MANAGES A LOT OF THE WORK ON THE LYNCH CREEK TRAIL.
AND HE HAS, UM, COMMISSIONED A SURVEY FOR THE SITE.
AND YOU MAY REMEMBER THIS, THAT THE, THE CITY PARCEL IS A, IS AN ODD ONE AND IT DOESN'T MATCH UP WITH THE EXISTING FENCE, WHICH IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE SCULPTURE.
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SO THAT'S GONNA BE SORTED OUT.UM, ALSO MAYBE A GOOD HAPPY RESULT OF THAT WILL BE CLARITY FOR THE NEIGHBOR AT 92 LAKEVILLE.
UM, AND UM, MAYBE GET SOME TRACTION ON HIS OFFER TO, UM, BUILD A FENCE AND COMMIT THE OUTSIDE OF IT TO MURALS, UM, MISSIONED BY THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE.
UM, SO I THINK CITY STAFF'S GONNA BE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT AND, AND DRIVE, UM, FIGURE OUT A LOT OF THINGS IN THE COMING WEEKS AND DRIVE THIS PROJECT A LOT MORE CONFIDENTLY.
THIS COMMITTEE'S ROLE I THINK WAS GONNA BE TO, UM, THEN COMMIT SOME DOLLARS TO THE INSTALLATION OF THE BENCH AND OTHER, AND THE OTHER, UM, RIVER ARCH FRAGMENTS THAT ARE ON SITE RIGHT NOW.
SO THAT WOULD BE, UM, OF THE IMPROVEMENTS AT THE SITE, THAT WOULD BE THE ONES THAT COME FROM THE PUBLIC ART FUND.
THE REST IS FUNDED BY, I GUESS TRANS TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY OR I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT ACRONYM STANDS FOR, BUT, UM, THE FUNDS FOR, UM, TRANSPORTATION ELEMENTS ON THE PATH.
AND MELISSA, YOU WANNA WEIGH IN WITH ANYTHING THAT I MISSED? OF COURSE.
UM, OH, ARE YOU WANTING TO OPEN UP, UM, DISCUSSION OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE ON TO STAFF COMMENTS ON PROJECT UPDATES? I GUESS YOU CAN, UM, YOU CAN FILL IN WHAT I MISSED DURING STAFF COMMENT THAT SEEMS TO BE MOST APPROPRIATE.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER, UH, COMMITTEE COMMENTS? IF NOT, WE'LL CLOSE OUT AGENDA ITEM EIGHT AND GO TO AGENDA ITEM NINE, STAFF COMMENT.
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GREAT, THANK YOU.I'M SORRY I COULDN'T BE THERE THIS EVENING, BUT I'M HAPPY TO REPORT SEVERAL UPDATES.
UM, WE'LL BEGIN WITH FINE BALANCE.
UM, I HAD CORRESPONDENCE TODAY WITH BRIAN GOGGIN AND HE PLANS AN INSTALLATION DATE IN MAY.
WE ARE LOOKING TO COMPILE SOME POSSIBLE DATES FOR A VISIT TO HIS STUDIO IN MID-FEBRUARY.
I WILL BE SENDING THOSE FORWARD TO YOU IN THE COMING WEEKS OR PROBABLY IN THE COMING WEEK, SORRY, NOT PLURAL.
UM, BRIAN'S STUDIO VISIT, WE WILL PROBABLY DO THREE COMMITTEE MEMBERS AT A TIME DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIKE TO VISIT.
SO THAT'S NOT TO UM, CAUSE ANY BROWN ACT VIOLATIONS.
I WILL BE LEADING BOTH OF THEM BACK TO BACK.
AND SO I'LL PROVIDE YOU MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT NEXT WEEK.
AS FAR AS THE LIGHTING PLAN AT FINE BALANCE, UM, AS YOU REMEMBER, BRIAN HAD SAID THAT THERE WAS A DONOR JOHN SHARE FOR A PANEL TO BE USED AT THE SITE.
WE HAVE LOOKED AT THE SOLAR PANEL AND IT DOES NOT SEEM LIKE IT WOULD BE A GOOD FIT FOR USE AT THIS PROJECT.
IT IS A USED SOLAR PANEL AND UM, IT SEEMS PREFERENTIAL THAT WE USE SOMETHING NEW THAT WE KNOW WILL HAVE SOME LONGEVITY TO IT.
TO THAT END, I HAVE REACHED OUT TO MIKE HOLLABAUGH OF HOLLY SOLAR WHO PROVIDED THE LIGHTING DETAILS FOR BRIAN'S PIECE AS WELL AS DAVID BEST PIECE AT THE RIVER ARCH.
AND HE HAS PUT TOGETHER A SOLAR ARRAY FOR EACH SITE THAT HE BELIEVES WOULD SUPPORT THE NEEDS TO SUPPLY POWER TO THOSE SITES.
HE IS PROVIDING, UM, BID FOR THE AMOUNT OF MATERIALS COSTS AND THE AMOUNT TO HAVE HIM BUILD THOSE ARRAYS.
WE WOULD STILL REQUIRE AN ENGINEER AND A CONTRACTOR TO INSTALL SOLAR AT BOTH SITES.
THIS IS JUST A PREM PRELIMINARY LOOK INTO THESE OFFERINGS BECAUSE WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THAT COULD COME OUT AT AND IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE'S INTERESTED IN FUNDING TO SUPPORT LIGHT AT THE PROJECT.
SO I WOULD APPRECIATE MORE FEEDBACK ABOUT THAT FROM YOU GUYS AS IT PROCEEDS.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE AN ACTUAL AMOUNT OF KNOWN QUANTITIES THAT LET US MAKE AN EDUCATED DECISION ON THAT.
LAST, WE SPOKE ABOUT A PG AND E CONNECTION.
IT APPEARED THAT WOULD COME IN AT AT LEAST $60,000 AND WOULD TAKE AT LEAST A YEAR AND A HALF TO BE ACCOMPLISHED.
MOVING ON TO WOVEN STORIES, WE HEARD FROM RUDE THIS WEEK THAT HE HAD LOST HIS PROJECT ENGINEER AND RECENTLY HAD FOUND A NEW PARTNER TO PERFORM THAT PART OF HIS INSTALLATION REQUIREMENTS.
AND SO WE WILL BE HEARING BACK FROM HIM HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS WITH AN UPDATED TIMELINE FOR INSTALLATION.
UM, THE KENILWORTH PARK PROJECT HAD A REVITALIZATION MEETING ON JANUARY 12TH.
OLEG DISCUSSED HIS MATERIALS AND HE SAID IT WOULD LIKELY BE MADE IN AN OFF WHITE COLOR, BUT THAT IS STILL UP FOR DISCUSSION.
HE WAS HOPING THAT WE COULD AT LEAST INSTALL FIVE PIECES AT THE SITE.
THERE WAS A ROBUST CONVERSATION
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ABOUT WHERE THOSE PIECES MIGHT BE.UM, AND IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO SPEAK ABOUT IT, BUT THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH OLEG POTENTIALLY AND THE ENTIRE TEAM AT AN OPEN DISCUSSION FORUM AT THE SITE.
SO IN BETWEEN THE TEEN CENTER AND THE LIBRARY ON FEBRUARY 3RD FROM 10 TO ONE, I WILL BE ON SITE AT THAT TIME.
IT'S A SATURDAY MORNING AND SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME AND TALK TO THE ARTIST POTENTIALLY OR I ABOUT IT, THAT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY AND IT'S AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC WITH ACTIVITIES AND SNACKS AND DRINKS.
AND WITH THAT WE MOVE ON TO THE MARY FULLER MCCHESNEY ESTATE.
UM, WE ARE SECURING CONCRETE QUOTES FROM COAST SIDE CONCRETE.
I SPOKE WITH DENNIS CALIBRA TODAY AND WE ARE ARRANGING A TIME NEXT WEEK FOR ME TO COME TO HIS SITE AND LOOK AT THE DIMENSIONS OF THE RODS.
WE BELIEVE THEY'RE STANDARD GALVANIZED STEEL PIPES THAT RUN THROUGH THE CENTER OF SEVERAL OF MARY'S STACKING PIECES.
THIS IS INFORMATION WE NEED SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT CONCRETE QUOTE IS SPECIFIC TO WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE.
UM, DENNIS TOOK A PRELIMINARY LOOK AT A COUPLE OF PIECES AND SAW THAT THE PIPES COULD VARY.
ONE WAS FIVE EIGHTH INCH AND ONE WAS HALF INCH AND ONE WAS ONE INCH.
SO IT'S GONNA REQUIRE SOME GOING OUT TO THE SITE AND DOING MORE EXPLANATION, UM, EXPLORATION INTO THIS.
ALL OF THE BRONZE PIECES DO NOT HAVE A ROD IN THEM, SO THAT IS NOT A CONSIDERATION FOR THOSE AT THIS TIME.
FOR THE SMALL ART COMMISSION, I DID TAKE A LOOK AT THE OVERPASS AS THAT WAS THE PRIORITIZED LOCATION FOR OUR NEXT ROUND OF SMALL ARTWORK COMMISSIONS.
I REVIEWED CALTRANS DOCUMENTS AND FOUND THAT THIS TYPE OF PROJECT WILL REQUIRE QUITE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT MORE, UM, OVERSIGHT THAN WHAT WE'VE WORKED WITH IN THE PAST.
SO I WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE THAT THAT CO COULD CAUSE MORE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS.
UM, I ALSO WALKED THE SITE AND TOOK SOME PICTURES AND WE ARE VERY LIMITED ON THE AMOUNT OF MURAL SPACE IF WE WERE TO TAKE THAT ROUTE OUTSIDE OF THE TWO RAMPS THAT LEAD TO THE SITE.
UM, MOST OF IT IS, UM, CYCLONE FENCING AND SO IT COVERS ALL OF UP TO LIKE A TWO FOOT SECTION DOWN THE CENTER AT THE TOP.
SO, UM, IF WE WANNA EXPLORE THAT MORE, WE'RE WELCOME TO.
BUT I WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE THAT I HAD TAKEN A LOOK INTO THAT.
UM, WE WERE ALREADY TOLD THAT THE HOMESTRETCH CONSERVATION PROJECT HAS HAD ITS INSURANCE FUNDS REPLENISHED AND SO WHERE I, I'M NOT SURE IF DAVID COULD PROVIDE BETTER CLARIFICATION ON THAT, IF THAT HAS ALL BEEN SUPPLIED AT THIS POINT.
UM, I WAS ALSO IN TOUCH WITH JARED HALL, WHO IS OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER WHO IS TAKING OVER FOR RIHANNA FLANK FRANK ON THE COMMUNITY ART PROGRAM WITH THE BUS SHELTER MURALS.
THEY'RE EXPECTING THAT SEVERAL, I BELIEVE IT'S FOUR OF THEM, WILL BE INSTALLED BY FEBRUARY 8TH WITH REMAINDER INSTALLED BY THE END OF FEBRUARY.
AS SOON AS SOON AS I'M AWARE THAT THEY ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT, I WILL MAKE YOU ALL AWARE THROUGH EMAIL SO THAT YOU'RE WELCOME TO LOOK AROUND AND SEE IF THOSE ARE IN AND JUST EXPERIENCE THE BUS SHELTERS.
UM, LOOKING AT EVERYTHING ELSE, THE RIVER ARCH, THERE ARE SOME UPDATES THAT, UM, CHRIS DID NOT SHARE.
UM, ALSO THAT I'M EXPLORING THE LIGHTING POTENTIAL THERE AND THERE WAS DISCUSSION BETWEEN KEN, TED AND I IF THE TDA FUNDS THAT CHRIS MENTIONED COULD BE APPLIED TO POTENTIALLY LIGHTING THE RIVER ARCH AND THE PATHWAY, WHICH IS A DESIRED COMPONENT OF THE LYNCH CREEK IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, AND CHRISTOPHER AND I HAVE WORKED TO CONTINUOUSLY, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT PROJECT IS MOVING FORWARD.
WE HAD HAD, UH, DESIRE TO COMPLETE THE IMPROVEMENTS BY THE END OF FEBRUARY SO AS TO MATCH UP WITH DAILY ACTS AND RELIEF PETALUMA AND PLANTING TREES THERE.
THAT IS NOT GONNA HAPPEN THIS YEAR, SO THE PLANTING WILL LIKELY TAKE PLACE NEXT YEAR, BUT WE ARE AIMING, AIMING TO DO IMPROVEMENTS BY THIS SUMMER.
UM, ANOTHER FURTHER UPDATE THAT'S PRETTY EXCITING IS I MET WITH RYAN PETERSON AT THE KELLER STREET GARAGE AND WE DISCUSSED THE CONDITION IN ISSUES THERE AND DID A SITE PER, UH, A SITE INSPECTION.
UM, I ALSO LEARNED THAT REBUILDING TOGETHER HAS BEEN HIRED BY THE CITY TO DO GRAFFITI ABATEMENT AND SO WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A MEETING IN THE COMING WEEK WITH DRAKE CUNNINGHAM FROM REBUILDING TOGETHER PETALUMA, AND HE IS GOING TO PROVIDE GRAFFITI REMOVAL
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SERVICES ON THE SITE AND CLEAN UP AND PREPARATION FOR RYAN TO COME BACK TO THE SITE AND DO SOME MINOR REPAIRS AS NEEDED.THIS WILL NOT BE A COMPLETE RESTORATION.
THAT WOULD MEAN THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO PAY THE ARTIST TO DO THE RESTORATION.
AND SO PENDING ANY, UM, DISCUSSION FROM THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO LOOK INTO, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I AM PREPARING THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH IMPROVEMENTS SO THAT WE CAN ABATE MOST OF THE CONDITION ISSUES THAT ARE WITHIN THE LOWER FOUR TO SIX FEET.
AND WITH THAT, THAT IS MY STAFF UPDATES.
ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE MEMBERS? YEAH.
UM, FOR WOVEN STORIES, UM, IT'S, UM, GLAD THAT RUDY CALDERON HAS BEEN ABLE TO, UH, FIND A NEW ENGINEER.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT KEEPS STRIKING ME IS THIS, WE'VE HAD THIS TALK ABOUT THIS COMMITTEE BEING ABLE TO REACH OUT AND FIGURE OUT A, A WAY OF SUPPORTING OR PITCHING THE IDEA OF THE, THE SCHOOL OR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, UM, CREATING AN EVENT AROUND THE UNVEILING AND THIS COMMITTEE SUPPORTING THAT AND THAT SO MUCH OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE SCHEDULE.
SO WITH, I KNOW THAT THE ARTIST IS, UM, WAS KNOCKED SIDEWAYS AND NOW IS BACK ON IT, BUT IT WOULD BE GREAT FOR US TO BE PROACTIVE IN SCHEDULING, UM, WHEN THIS WILL BE INSTALLED AND DO THAT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE SCHOOL SO THEY CAN SORT OF OPTIMIZE THE, THE EXPERIENCE FOR THE, FOR THE, FOR THEIR COMMUNITY.
AS SOON AS WE HAVE A DATE, I PLAN ON REACHING OUT TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND FOLLOWING THROUGH ON PREPARING THE CEREMONY THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO FOR THE UNVEILING WITH THE ARTIST AND THE SCHOOLS.
THE PRIORITY IS THAT THEY DICTATE WHAT THE PARAMETERS AND CONDITIONS THEY WOULD LIKE FOR THAT CELEBRATION, BUT I WILL MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE AWARE OF IT THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.
AND THEN, UM, FOR THE, UH, MARY FULLER MCCHESNEY, HAVE YOU, HAVE WE LEARNED ANYTHING FROM ASTRO MOTELS, UM, CONCRETE PADS THAT CAN, UH, THAT CAN INFORM THE, THE, WHAT WE DO AT, IN VARIOUS LOCATIONS AROUND THE CITY WHERE THEY'LL BE INSTALLED? I HAVE NOT TALKED TO THEM, BUT PERHAPS DAVID COULD PROVIDE SOME IN INSIGHT IF HE'S RECEIVED ANY INFORMATION FROM THEM.
THERE'S NO NEED TO DO THAT NOW, BUT I'M JUST SAYING IF, IF THAT'S, IF THAT'S WORTHWHILE PURSUING, PLEASE DO.
AND LASTLY, ON THE PUBLIC WORKS, UM, THE TRAFFIC CALMING PUBLIC ART PROJECTS, UM, IT SAYS UNDER STATUS IT SAYS STAFF MET WITH, UH, THE POTENTIAL PROGRAM ARTIST.
UM, AND THE WAY THAT'S WRITTEN, IT SUGGESTS THAT THERE'S A, UM, A SPECIFIC APPROACH HAS BEEN CHOSEN BY PUBLIC WORKS FOR HOW TO APPROACH THE ART ARTIST.
AND THIS SEEMS SORT OF FAMILIAR, SO MAYBE YOU EXPLAINED THIS BEFORE.
APOLOGIES IF YOU HAVE, BUT IF YOU WOULD, UM, PLEASE EXPLAIN THAT AGAIN, WHERE THAT STANDS.
I'M HAPPY TO TAKE THIS ONE, MELISSA.
SO AT THE DIRECTION OF THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE, I PUT TOGETHER A SCOPE OF SERVICES FOR THE ARTIST THAT WOULD LEAD THE CHARGE, UM, TO THE DEGREE THAT THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE FELT COMFORTABLE TO DESIGN THESE OPPORTUNITIES AND NOT, UM, PUT MORE WORK OR STRESS ON PUBLIC ART STAFF OR ON THE COMMITTEE TO BE THE SELECTION PANEL, TO BE THE, UM, FACILITATOR TO FIND THE ARTIST, UM, AND, AND ALL THOSE OTHER ELEMENTS THAT GO INTO SORT OF THE DESIGN AND THE INSTALLATION PROCESS.
SO THAT DOCUMENT WAS SENT OVER TO PUBLIC WORKS SEVERAL MONTHS AGO AND UM, BASICALLY LEFT IT AS A TEMPLATE TO SAY THIS IS READY TO GO, IT'S PACKAGED AND IF WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH FUNDING AND FINDING AN, PUTTING AN ARTIS INTO CONTRACT TO FIND LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS, SCHOOLS, OTHER YOUTH PROGRAMS THAT MIGHT WANT TO HELP PROVIDE LABOR AND BE INVOLVED IN THE DESIGN PROCESS, IT'S READY TO GO.
UM, BUT AT THE DIRECTION OF THE COMMITTEE, THIS IS KIND OF ON THE SIDELINES, UH, AT THE MOMENT.
UM, THEY, WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY DIRECTION THAT THEY ARE READY TO MAKE THAT SORT OF COMMITMENT AND TO EXECUTE.
SO WE'RE IN A HOLDING PATTERN UNTIL THEY DECIDE AS THE LEAD AGENCY TO KIND OF MOVE FORWARD.
AND, UH, I THINK PUBLIC ART IS ON THE SIDELINE TO SUPPORT AND
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THAT WAS AT THE DIRECTION OF THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE.SO UNLESS THAT CHANGES AND UNLESS WE WANT TO INITIATE SOME FUNDING TO GET THAT PROGRAM GOING, THERE ISN'T GONNA BE ANY MORE DEVELOPMENT INTO THAT PROGRAM AT THIS TIME.
ANYTHING MORE FOR STAFF? I HAVE A QUESTION ACTUALLY.
UM, MELISSA, I THINK, UM, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING WITH BRIAN HOVA ABOUT THE SOLAR ARRAYS FOR BOTH THE SITES THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, I WOULD UM, ENCOURAGE YOU TO FIND OUT WHAT SORT OF MAINTENANCE OR GUARANTEES AGAINST MALFUNCTION OR BREAKAGE, UM, MIGHT COME INTO THAT.
BECAUSE IF THAT TURNS AROUND IN THE FUTURE, IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, SOME BREAKAGE OR SOMETHING FALLS, YOU KNOW, FALLS SHORT OF EXPECTATION, IT'S GONNA FALL ON US FOR MAINTENANCE.
'CAUSE PARKS PROBABLY WON'T PICK IT UP, I'M GUESSING.
SO MAYBE THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING TO EXPLORE IN YOUR CONVERSATIONS.
'CAUSE THAT COULD BE A HEALTHY, HEALTHY NUMBER IF IT COMES BACK TO US.
UM, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THE MATERIAL COSTS FOR THE, THESE ARRAYS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ARE COMING IN UNDER $1,500.
SO IT WAS KIND OF SURPRISING WHAT THE COMPONENTS WERE COMPILED OF.
UM, IT'S A KIND OF THIN POLE THAT WOULD BE SET SO THAT IT WOULD HAVE AN ELEVATION THAT WOULDN'T ATTRACT VANDALISM AS MUCH BECAUSE IT WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO CLIMB OR BE REACHABLE.
AND IN THE SIDING WE WOULD KEEP IT AWAY FROM ANYTHING THAT WOULD HELP FACILITATE REACHING OVER OR AFFECTING IT IN SOME OTHER WAY.
UM, BUT THE REALITY IS, IS THAT THIS GOING TO, IF IT DOES, THEN IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY ECONOMICAL SOLAR RATE THAT HOPEFULLY WOULD BE LONG LASTING ENOUGH AND COMPONENTS THAT WERE REPLACEABLE IF THEY WERE NEEDED TO BE REPAIRED.
YEAH, WELL I HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT IT THAT FAR, BUT, UH, THANKS FOR RAISING THE TOPIC.
I WOULD WONDER THOUGH, PARTICULARLY ON LYNCH CREEK TRAIL, IF IT'S, IF THE, IF THE POWER IS SUPPLYING NOT ONLY THE INTERNAL, UH, LEDS ON THE SCULPTURE BUT LIGHTING ALONG LYNCH CREEK TRAIL, I IMAGINE THAT, UM, PUBLIC WORKS WOULD PROBABLY BE LOOKING AFTER THAT MORE LIKELY THAN THE PUBLIC ART FUND.
UM, AND SO, AND YEAH, AND MAYBE JUST TO REITERATE, UM, IT'D BE GOOD TO GET, UM, THE FIRM YES.
THAT, UM, WE CAN EVEN PURSUE THIS AT, UM, H STREET POCKET PARK.
SO PERHAPS YOU'VE ALREADY DONE THAT AND WE HAVEN'T HEARD, BUT UM, IF NOT, WE'D LOVE TO HEAR ABOUT IN THE FUTURE THAT HAS NOT TAKEN PLACE YET.
I WILL REACH OUT TO DREW HALTER AND SEE IF WE CAN HAVE A MORE ROBUST CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT WE VIEW AS IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL BE CAPABLE AT THAT SITE.
UM, WE'RE HERE TONIGHT AND WHO ARE PARTICIPATED AND OUR NEXT MEETING IS FEBRUARY 22ND.
UM, AND WITH THAT IT'S EIGHT, IT'S 7 53 AND WE'RE ADJOURNED.