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OKAY, WE ARE CALLING THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
[CALL TO ORDER]
UM, AND WE'LL START OFF WITH ROLL CALL.SUSIE, ARE YOU GOING TO BE I WILL, YES.
AND THE FIRST THING, OUR ON OUR AGENDA IS THE OATH OF OFFICE FOR OUR NEW COMMITTEE MEMBER.
SO WE HAVE OUR CITY CLERK HERE TO PRESENT THE OATH.
MAYBE I'LL BORROW YOURS THERE WE SLICK.
I'M GONNA READ IT TO YOU, BUT I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A LITTLE CHEAT SHEET TO READ ALONG.
SO RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND REPEAT AFTER ME.
I STATE YOUR NAME, DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR.
I JANE HAMILTON DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I WILL SUPPORT AND DEFEND, THAT I WILL SUPPORT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, THE CHARTER OF THE CITY OF PETALUMA, THE CHARTER OF THE CITY OF PETALUMA, AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AGAINST ALL ENEMIES, FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC, AGAINST ALL ENEMIES, FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC.
THAT I WILL BEAR TRUE FAITH AND ALLEGIANCE, THAT I WILL BEAR TRUE FAITH AND ALLEGIANCE TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, THE CHARTER OF THE CITY OF PETALUMA, THE CHARTER OF THE CITY OF PETALUMA, AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
THAT I TAKE THIS OBLIGATION FREELY, THAT I TAKE THIS OBLIGATION FREELY WITHOUT ANY MENTAL RESERVATION OR PURPOSE OF EVASION, WITHOUT MANY
AND THAT I WILL WELL AND FAITHFULLY, AND THAT I WILL WELL AND FAITHFULLY DISCHARGE THE DUTIES UPON WHICH I AM ABOUT TO ENTER.
AND NOW THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS THE SELECTION OF THE COMMITTEE CHAIR.
SO YOU WILL NEED TO DECIDE WHO IS GOING TO BE THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE.
WE NOMINATE, UM, LEN FISHMAN, WHO A NEW LEADER,
I'LL GO AHEAD AND DO A ROLL CALL THEN SINCE WE'VE HAD A MOTION IN A SECOND.
WELL, NOW IT IS YOUR TURN TO TAKE OVER THE MEETING.
[GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT]
I GET TO TAKE OVER.THE NEXT, UH, THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, AND I'M ASSUMING WE DON'T HAVE ANY LIVE COMMENTS HERE TONIGHT.
AND THEN WE HAD COMMENTS THAT CAME IN ON, UH, EMAIL.
DO WE READ THOSE OR DO WE JUST ACCEPT THAT THEY WERE SENT IN? NO, WE JUST NOTE THAT, THAT WE DID RECEIVE, UH, FOUR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
ONE THAT CAME IN PRIOR TO THE MEETING AND IT WAS DISTRIBUTED.
[PRESENTATIONS]
UH, WE MOVE ON TO PRESENTATIONS AND THE MEASURE U BIANNUAL REPORT.SO I WANNA START BY SAYING THANK YOU TO EVERYONE FOR BREATH BREATHING THIS WEATHER TO BE HERE TONIGHT.
I'M THE FINANCE DIRECTOR AND I'M ALSO THE STAFF LIAISON FOR THIS COMMITTEE.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, YOU CAN ALWAYS REACH OUT TO ME.
SO TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING OVER THE MEASURE YOU REPORT FOR THE YEAR ENDED JUNE 30TH, 2023.
WE'RE GOING TO BE REVIEWING SOME BACKGROUND ON THE MEASURE, LOOK AT OUR CURRENT ECONOMIC CONDITIONS, REVIEW THE PERFORMANCE FOR FISCAL 23, AND ALSO LOOK AT THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR'S
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BUDGET.SO, AS YOU KNOW, THE PASSAGE OF MEASURE U ESTABLISH THE MEASURE U OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, WHICH IS A FIVE MEMBER INDEPENDENT CITIZEN OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.
MEMBERS ARE APPOINTED BY COUNCIL AND SERVE STAGGERED FOUR YEAR TERMS PER THE BALLOT MEASURE.
THE COMMITTEE'S RESPONSIBILITY IS TO REVIEW AND COMMENT ON THE CITY'S REPORT, LOOKING AT HOW THE TAX PROCEEDS WERE USED ON CITY PRIORITIES AND PLANNED USAGE IN FUTURE YEARS.
THE ORAL COMMENTARY THAT'S ENTERED INTO THE RECORD AT THESE BIANNUAL MEETINGS DOES MEET THESE REQUIREMENTS.
SO MEASURE U WAS A GENERAL PURPOSE TAX MEASURE THAT ESTABLISHED A 1 CENT TRANSACTION IN USE TAX EFFECTIVE APRIL 1ST, 2021.
CURRENTLY WE'RE ESTIMATING ANNUAL REVENUE OF $16 MILLION FROM THIS TAX.
SO RATHER THAN TRACKING THIS REVENUE IN THE GENERAL FUND, WE DID CREATE A SEPARATE MEASURE U FUND.
THIS FUND RETAINS FUND BALANCE YEAR OVER YEAR FOR FUTURE SPENDING.
MEASURE U DOES REQUIRE THIS OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE AND ALL OF THE SPENDING IS BASED ON THE FISCAL AND ORGANIZATIONAL SUSTAINABILITY STUDY AND THE RESULTANT COMMUNITY FEEDBACK.
SO THE FISCAL AND ORGANIZATIONAL SUSTAINABILITY STUDY WAS CONDUCTED OVER THE COURSE OF TWO YEARS TO DETERMINE SUSTAINABLE FUNDING NEEDS FOR CITY SERVICES AND INFRASTRUCTURE.
THE CITY HAD EXPERIENCED HISTORICAL FUNDING SHORTFALLS, WHICH LED TO INSUFFICIENT STAFFING AND LOW INVESTMENT IN INFRASTRUCTURE.
COMMUNITY FEEDBACK PRIORITIZED THE MAINTENANCE OF EXISTING SERVICES, INCLUDING PUBLIC SAFETY, EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS, RETAINING TRAINED STAFF ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS AND REPAIRING AND MAINTAINING ROADS.
SO STAFF THEN TOOK THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK AND DISTILLED IT INTO THESE THREE MAJOR CATEGORIES, GENERAL FUND SUPPORT AND WORKFORCE STABILIZATION, INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT, AND PRIORITY INITIATIVES.
SO AS MENTIONED EARLIER, THE MEASURE U REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES ARE TRACKED IN A SEPARATE FUND.
UH, THIS IS JUST ONE OF 120 DIFFERENT FUNDS THAT THE CITY HAS.
UM, THIS TAX IS CLASSIFIED AS GENERAL USE.
HOWEVER, WE ENSURE THAT THE SPENDING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FOS STUDY AND COMMUNITY PRIORITIES.
WE DON'T JUST SPEND IT ON ANYTHING AT ALL TIMES.
UM, IN MANY CASES, THE MEASURE U REVENUES ARE JUST ONE OF SEVERAL FUNDING SOURCES THAT CONTRIBUTE TO A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT OR A CITY INITIATIVE.
AND EACH YEAR THE CITY BUDGET IS PRESENTED IN MAY AND THEN ADOPTED BY JULY 1ST.
AND WE ISSUE OUR AUDITED FINANCIAL STATEMENTS BY DECEMBER 31ST OF EACH YEAR.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE COMING TO YOU NOW WITH AS OF JUNE 30TH.
IT TAKES A LITTLE TIME TO PUT ALL THIS TOGETHER.
SO FOR THE CURRENT YEAR, WE'RE ANTICIPATING THAT THE REVENUES WE RECEIVE FOR MEASURE U WILL ALIGN WITH WHAT WAS BUDGETED.
UM, OUR CURRENT ECONOMIC PROJECTIONS ARE SHOWING SLOWING GROWTH OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS WITH GDP GROWTH, SHRINKING AND CIP HOVERING AROUND 3%.
NOW, AGAIN, THIS IS A SLOWER GROWTH, UM, FORECAST.
IT IS NOT A RECESSION FORECAST, WE'RE JUST SAYING IT'S NOT GONNA GROW AS QUICKLY.
UM, SO THERE ARE A LOT OF FACTORS THAT ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THIS FORECASTED SLOWER GROWTH, WHICH INCLUDES, YOU KNOW, OUR CURRENT HIGH INTEREST RATES, HOUSING COSTS, WE'VE GOT UPCOMING NATIONAL ELECTIONS, WE'VE GOT NATURAL DISASTERS BEING CAUSED BY CLIMATE CHANGE AND ALL OF THE THINGS GOING ON GLOBALLY.
LOOKING AT FISCAL 23, OUR MEASURE U REVENUES TOTALED 15.78 MILLION WITH UNAC ASIDE FUND BALANCE AS OF 5.38 MILLION AS OF JUNE 30TH.
SO THAT FUND BALANCE IS THE TOTAL EXCESS REVENUE OVER EXPENDITURES FROM THE EXCEPTION OF THE TAX THROUGH JUNE 30TH.
THE FUND BALANCE DOES STAY IN THE FUND AND ROLLS OVER FROM YEAR TO YEAR TO BE USED, UH, IN FUTURE YEARS.
AND WE CAN FIND MORE DETAILS ON ALL THE CITY'S FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, UH, ON OUR WEBSITE.
IS IT OKAY IF WE ASK QUESTIONS AS WE GO? SURE.
I, I DON'T HAVE ONE RIGHT NOW, BUT I JUST WANT, I WANNA KNOW IF I CAN BREAK IN RATHER THAN WAIT TILL THE END AND RATHER HAVE IT IN REAL TIME.
UM, SO HERE WE'RE SHOWING, UH, REVENUE AND EXPENDITURES FROM INCEPTION TO DATE, UH, FOR MEASURE U WITH REVENUES SHOWN IN THE GREEN LINE AND EXPENDITURES IN THE BLUE COLUMNS.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT REVENUES WERE PRETTY FLAT FROM FISCAL 22 TO FISCAL 23.
UH, FISCAL 22 WAS AN ECONOMIC REBOUND YEAR COMING OUT OF COVID AND WE EXPERIENCED HIGHER LEVELS OF TAXABLE SALES THAN TYPICAL.
AND SO SALES SLOWED DOWN A BIT IN FISCAL 23 AS INFLATION AND OTHER PRESSURES REDUCED CONSUMER SPENDING LOOKING AT THE FISCAL, NOPE.
THIS CHART IS SHOWING REVENUE AND EXPENDITURES.
ANYWAY, HERE WE'RE COMPARING THE REVISED BUDGET FOR FISCAL 23 TO THE ACTUALS THAT CAME IN.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT OUR ACTUAL REVENUE CAME IN ALMOST A MILLION DOLLARS HIGHER THAN WE HAD ANTICIPATED, WHICH WAS FANTASTIC.
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AND OUR EXPENDITURES WERE EXACTLY THE BUDGETED AMOUNT.AND THAT'S BECAUSE FOR MEASURE U, WE'RE TRANSFERRING MONEY OUT OF THAT FUND INTO THE, ALL THE PROJECTS IN PLACES THAT IT NEEDS TO GO.
SO HERE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE FISCAL 23 EXPENDITURES BY THOSE THREE MAJOR CATEGORIES.
AND SO WE CAN SEE THAT ABOUT 9.8 MILLION WENT INTO THE GENERAL FUND SUPPORT, 4.7 MILLION INTO INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT AND ALMOST HALF A MILLION DOLLARS INTO OUR PRIORITY INITIATIVES.
AND SO THEN LOOKING AT THAT, UH, CHART NEXT TO IT, THAT'S JUST SHOWING THE RELATIVE PERCENTAGES.
SO ABOUT 65% OF THE MEASURE U IS GOING INTO SUPPORTING THE GENERAL FUND AND 30% INTO INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT, AND THEN A SMALLER AMOUNT INTO THE PRIORITY INITIATIVES.
UM, I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT THAT MM-HMM,
AND SO THE 9.7 COMBINES THOSE TWO, CORRECT? YES, CORRECT.
YEAH, THAT'S THE FULL AMOUNT OF, 'CAUSE ALL OF THOSE NEW STAFF POSITIONS ARE IN THE GENERAL FUND.
SO AT THIS POINT WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT THAT, THOSE AS A TOTAL.
THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.
SO HERE WE'RE BREAKING OUT THOSE INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENTS THAT WE MADE FOR FISCAL 23.
UM, WE'VE GOT, UH, 3.7 MILLION GOING INTO ROAD IMPROVEMENTS.
AND THOSE WERE THE, THAT'S THE DEBT SERVICE ON THE $20 MILLION OF LEASE REVENUE BONDS THAT WE ISSUED TO PAY FOR DEFERRED ROAD MAINTENANCE PROJECTS.
SO THIS MONEY IS ACTUALLY SUPPORTING THAT LARGER BOND ISSUANCE THAT'S PAYING FOR QUITE A FEW ROAD PROJECTS ACROSS THE CITY.
WE'VE GOT $600,000 GOING TOWARDS A LIBRARY FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM THAT'S PART OF A MUCH LARGER PROJECT THAT WE'RE DOING ON THE LIBRARY IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE COUNTY.
WE'VE GOT 154,000 FOR THE PETALUMA COMMUNITY BASEBALL FIELD.
SO THAT'S JUST ALMOST A DROP IN THE BUCKET FOR THIS LARGE PROJECT, BUT IT'S GONNA HELP PHASE TWO MOVE FORWARD, WHICH IS GOING TO INCLUDE SPECTATOR VIEWING AREAS, DUGOUTS AND FENCING.
AND THEN FINALLY WE'VE GOT 250,000 GOING INTO A FINANCIAL SYSTEM REPLACEMENT.
SO THE CITY'S CURRENT FINANCIAL SYSTEM IS GOING TO SUNSET IN 2027, WHICH MEANS WE CAN NO LONGER REALLY USE IT
SO, UH, CURRENTLY WE'RE WORKING WITH CONSULTANTS, UM, TO GATHER REQUIREMENTS.
WE'RE GONNA BE ISSUING AN RFP ASKING FOR PROPOSALS, UM, AND BY THE END OF THE SUMMER WE SHOULD HAVE SELECTED A NEW SYSTEM AND STARTED WORK ON IMPLEMENTATION.
SO THIS IS JUST THE FIRST PART OF A MUCH LARGER PROJECT.
I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE LIBRARY FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM.
UM, IN OUR LAST MEETING, IT SAID THAT THE TOTAL WOULD BE AROUND $4 MILLION, BUT WE RECEIVED A GRANT.
DO WOULD YOU KNOW HOW MUCH THE GRANT IS SO THAT WE CAN, GOING FORWARD, WE CAN KNOW HOW MUCH, OH, I DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS WITH ME, BUT I CAN, I CAN SEND THEM OUT AFTER.
BUT YEAH, IT IS PART OF A MUCH LARGER PROJECT.
THE ME WE USE THE MEASURE YOU JUST TO COVER THIS ONE PIECE OF THE FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM.
AND THAT'S A MULTI-YEAR PROJECT, RIGHT? CORRECT.
SO CAN I ASK A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT INFRAS? THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS? MM-HMM.
WE USE THE MEASURE U'S REVENUES TO SECURE THE BOND, YOU HAVE TO PROVE THAT YOU HAVE REVENUE TO PAY YOUR, UM, YOUR BOND PAYMENTS EVERY SINGLE YEAR.
AND SO THIS, THIS WAS THE REVENUE SOURCE THAT WE TIED THOSE TO.
WE'RE, WE'RE PAYING THAT OFF AND THEN RETURN.
SO THE BOND PAYMENT IS ACTUALLY LESSER THAN WE'VE SPENT IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS ON INFRASTRUCTURE.
I'M JUST, I'M JUST WONDERING IF WE ARE GOING BACKWARDS.
I MEAN, I'M JUST WORRIED ABOUT HOW OUR HOW OUR ROAD, HOW BAD OUR ROADS ARE
THIS IS NOT THE FULL PICTURE OF ALL THE MONEY THAT WE'RE SPENDING ON ROADS.
THIS IS JUST THE PART THAT'S COMING OUT OF MEASURE U.
NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT AND THAT, SO, BUT I'M JUST SAYING WHAT WE HAD, WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY SET ASIDE, APPROXIMATE 35% I THINK FOR INFRASTRUCTURE.
WE'RE NOT SPENDING AS MUCH AS WE HAD THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA SPEND ON INFRASTRUCTURE WITH THE MEASURE YOU MONEY.
WELL, YEAH, WE'RE HAVING TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT EACH YEAR AND SEE HOW MUCH DO WE NEED TO BALANCE THE GENERAL FUND AND THEN WHAT DO WE HAVE LEFT OVER? AND THEN ALSO WHAT ARE THE GAPS IN OUR CIP FUNDING? BECAUSE FOR A LOT OF OUR PROJECTS WE DO HAVE, YOU KNOW, IMPACT FEES OR OTHER DEDICATED SOURCES OF FUNDING THAT WE CAN USE.
AND THEN THIS IS KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WE'RE USING IT REALLY TO PLUG THE HOLES IN THE SHIP WHERE WE CAN.
UM, BUT YEAH, WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK AT THAT AS WE MOVE INTO, UM, THE NEXT MEETING.
AND WE'LL BE BRINGING, UM, HOW WE'RE DOING ON FISCAL 24.
SO THAT'S THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR AS WELL AS THE
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PROPOSED BUDGET FOR FISCAL 25.AND THEN THIS IS JUST DETAILING THOSE PRIORITY INITIATIVES THAT WE HAD IN FISCAL 23.
SO THAT WAS JUST UNDER HALF A MILLION DOLLARS.
SO HALF OF THAT WENT TO THE SAFE TEAM, WHICH IS THE 24 7 NONVIOLENT MENTAL HEALTH RESPONSE.
UH, THE REST OF THE SAFE TEAM IS BEING, UH, FUNDED BY GRANTS.
SO WE ARE WORKING WITH A LOT OF PROVIDERS AND GETTING GRANTS TO FUND THAT PROGRAM FOR THE MOST PART.
BUT MEASURE U IS REALLY HELPFUL TO BRIDGE THE GAP FOR FISCAL 23.
UM, WE'VE GOT AN ONGOING PROJECT OF ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGERS AT CITY FACILITIES.
SO WE USED A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS AND FISCAL 23.
UM, WE'VE DEVELOPED, WE'RE DEVELOPING AN INFRASTRUCTURE MASTER PLAN.
PART OF THE ISSUE IS MAKING SURE WE CAN GET ENOUGH ELECTRICITY AT ALL OF THE CITY SITES.
SO IT'S WORKING WITH PG AND E NOW MM-HMM.
UM, THE EVERGREEN IS THE, UM, HANG ON.
SO THAT'S THE SONOMA CLEAN POWERS EVERGREEN PROGRAM.
SO THESE ARE THE CITY'S COSTS, THE LITTLE EXTRA THAT WE HAVE TO PAY TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT PROGRAM TO GET CLEAN POWER AND SOLAR ENERGY, WHICH IS PART OF OUR CLIMATE INITIATIVE.
AND THEN FINALLY, WE HAD, UM, THIS ONE-TIME EXPENSE FOR CLIMATE OUTREACH.
SO WE PARTNERED WITH, UH, PETALUMA EQUITABLE CLIMATE ACTION COALITION, AND THEY DID SOME OUTREACH WORK, UH, WITH OUR COMMUNITIES THAT ARE MOST IMPACTED BY OUR TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS AND CLIMATE CHANGE.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN, BRIAN? DO YOU HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT?
I, I'M AWARE OF THE, THE PROGRAM THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
UM, BUT I, I DON'T HAVE A, UM, DETAILED REPORT OUT ON, UH, WHAT THAT PROGRAM ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISHED.
I DO BELIEVE IT'S, IT'S DONE NOW.
SO, LIKE JESSE MENTIONED, IT IS, WAS A ONE TIME.
SO IT'S NOT A RECURRING KIND OF EVERY YEAR.
WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO, UH, FORWARD OUT SOME MORE DETAILS TO THE COMMITTEE ON THAT AS WELL.
YEAH, I MEAN, I'D BE INTERESTED TO KNOW TOO.
NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.
SO HERE WE JUST HAVE THE ORIGINAL BUDGET AND THE REVISED BUDGET.
UM, AT OUR NEXT MEETING, I WILL BRING, UH, WHERE WE'RE AT IN TERMS OF ACTUALS AS OF DECEMBER 31ST.
SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE SOME ACTUALS AT THE NEXT MEETING.
UM, SO WE'VE ONLY HAD ONE CHANGE TO THE BUDGET SO FAR THIS FISCAL YEAR.
UM, SO THE EXPENDITURE BUDGET WENT UP BY $950,000.
AND THAT WAS TO ADD MONEY TO THE TURNING BASIN DOCS AND DREDGING PROJECT.
SO THAT PROJECT WAS ALREADY PART OF THE ADOPTED BUDGET AND IT NEEDED A LITTLE MORE FUNDING, UH, TO GET IT OVER THE LINE.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE DO HAVE BUDGETED EXPENDITURES THAT ARE MUCH, MUCH HIGHER THAN THE REVENUES.
AND SO THAT'S BECAUSE IN THIS FISCAL YEAR, IN ORDER TO GET SOME LARGER PROJECTS DONE, WE'RE USING UP THAT FUND BALANCE THAT WE'VE BEEN HOLDING ONTO SINCE INCEPTION.
SO AT THE END OF THIS YEAR, UH, DEPENDING ON HOW OUR REVENUES ARE, WE'LL LIKELY HAVE VERY LITTLE FUND BALANCE, UH, FOR FUTURE USE.
AND SO WE'LL HAVE TO WORK ON BUILDING THAT BACK UP.
SO LOOKING AT THE FISCAL 24 BUDGET HERE, WE CAN SEE THAT SPLIT BETWEEN THOSE THREE MAJOR CATEGORIES.
UM, WE'VE GOT 12.9 MILLION GOING TO GENERAL FUND SUPPORT, 6.7 MILLION TO INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT AND 1.5 MILLION ON PRIORITY INITIATIVES.
SO THIS IS BREAKING OUT THOSE INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, INVESTMENTS.
SO AGAIN, WE'VE GOT OUR ROAD IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, SO THAT'S THE DEBT SERVICE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ON THE BONDS.
WE'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY GOING INTO THAT LIBRARY, FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM, ADDITIONAL FUNDS ALSO GOING TOWARDS THE FINANCIAL SYSTEM REPLACEMENT.
THAT'S THAT TECHNOLOGY ITEM OF ALMOST 700,000.
AND THEN WE HAVE THREE NEW ITEMS THAT WE'VE ADDED IN FOR, UM, THE FISCAL 24.
AND THESE WERE ALL PART OF THE ADOPTED BUDGET.
UM, SO THAT IS THE TURNING BASE IN DOCS AND DREDGING, WHICH RECEIVED THAT INCREASE.
UM, THIS PROJECT INCLUDES DREDGING UNDER THE DOCKS AND DOCK REPLACEMENT TO RESTORE FULL ACCESS TO THE TURNING BASIN AND ENSURE SAFE RECREATIONAL USE.
AND THIS IS JUST A SMALL PART OF A TOTAL PROJECT THAT'S OVER $13 MILLION.
UM, THEN WE'VE GOT THE DOWNTOWN PUBLIC RESTROOM AS WELL AS SOME DOWNTOWN BEAUTIFICATION OF 775,000.
SO THAT'S GOING TO INSTALL A PREFABRICATED PUBLIC RESTROOM DOWNTOWN WHERE, UM, I BELIEVE, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE STILL FINALIZING THAT.
UM, I THINK THEY'RE LOOKING AT WATER STREET.
BUT, UM, I KNOW PUBLIC WORKS IS FIGURING OUT THE BEST PLACE TO PUT IT IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE THEY HAVE TO ALSO MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT ALL THE RIGHT PIPES AND EVERYTHING THERE TOO.
AND THEN IT'S ALSO GOING TO INCLUDE SOME UPGRADES TO DOWNTOWN INFRASTRUCTURE, LIKE TRASH, RE TRASH RECEPTACLES, STREET FURNITURE, BIKE RACKS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND THEN FINALLY WE HAVE 650,000 FOR THE RIVER DREDGING PROGRAM.
SO THAT'S FUNDING FOR ONGOING MAINTENANCE
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DREDGING OF THE DOWNTOWN TURNING BASIN AREA THAT OCCURS ABOUT EVERY SIX YEARS.SO PUTTING SOME MONEY TOWARDS THAT.
IS THERE ANY FUNDING, FUNDING FOR THE MARINA IN THIS? UH, NO.
UM, OUT OF MEASURE U IS THERE ANY FUNDING FOR THE TRESTLE? NO, THERE IS NO FUNDING FOR THE TRESTLE OUT OF THIS.
HAVE THEY CONSIDERED IT? HAS THE COUNCIL CONSIDERED PUTTING SOME OF THIS INTO THE TRESTLE? I MEAN, I THINK THAT WOULD BE KIND OF PART OF INFRASTRUCTURE.
WELL, THE, THE TRESTLE HAS RECEIVED ALMOST $500,000 FROM THE GENERAL FUND AND TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TAX ALREADY SO FAR.
SO AS THERE'S, THEY'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH SOME DESIGN ISSUES AND WE'RE ALSO STILL TRYING TO PARTNER WITH SMART BECAUSE THEY DO OWN THE TRESTLE, UM, TO SEE WHAT THEY CAN CONTRIBUTE AS WELL.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, STILL DEVELOPING THE CIP BUDGET FOR FISCAL 25.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS STILL ONGOING.
SO THE GENERAL FUND SUPPORT, IS THAT MAINLY, UM, NEW HIRES? SO A LOT OF IT IS, I THINK I'M TOO FAR AWAY FROM THE MIC.
UM, IT'S, IT'S NOT, IT'S NEW HIRES.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, INCREASED SALARIES AND BENEFIT COSTS.
IT'S THE COST OF EVERYTHING GOING UP.
I MEAN, YOU'RE, YOU'RE SEEING WE'RE ALL SEEING INFLATION AND SO ALL OF THE JUST GENERAL OPERATING SUPPLIES THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO BUY, THOSE HAVE GONE UP AS WELL.
AND SO JUST GENERALLY SPEAKING, UM, OUR REVENUES AREN'T KEEPING PACE WITH THE GROWTH OF OUR EXPENDITURES.
AND SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE FOCUSING ON USING MEASURE U TO KIND OF FILL THAT GAP.
AND WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT THAT MORE CLOSELY AS WE BUILD OUT OUR FORECAST FOR FISCAL 25 AND SEE WHAT WE CAN REALLY ACCOMPLISH.
SO, SO THIS MIGHT, THIS 12,000,897 JUST GOES INTO THE GENERAL FUND FUND AND THEN GETS USED WHEREVER IT'S NEEDED? YES.
SO, BUT PRIMARILY IT'S, IT'S SUPPORTING STAFF, UM, YOU KNOW, POSITIONS AND PROVIDING THOSE SERVICES.
I MEAN, IT'S PUBLIC SAFETY AND IT'S, UH, IT'S ALL OF THOSE BASIC THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO PROVIDE.
IS IT GONNA BE FUNDING ANY, UM, NEW STAFF FOR THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT? UM, I THINK PLANNING.
WE HAVE ADDED A COUPLE OF NEW STAFF IN PLANNING.
UM, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE A NEW COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, AND THEY ALSO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF ADMIN SUPPORT STAFF THAT THEY'VE ADDED TO BRING THAT WHOLE DEPARTMENT TOGETHER.
SO AS WE'VE REFORMED THAT DEPARTMENT, IT NOW INCLUDES HOUSING CODE ENFORCEMENT PLANNING AND BUILDING.
SO IT'S ACTUALLY FOUR DIVISIONS NOW THAT HAVE COME TOGETHER.
UH, AND SO THERE IS ADDITIONAL STAFF SUPPORT SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THAT FULLY FORMED COMBINED DEPARTMENT.
SO FROM LAST YEAR'S BUDGET TO THIS YEAR'S, WE'VE GONE FROM 9 MILLION ISH TO 12 MILLION ISH.
WOULD IT BE PRUDENT ON NEXT YEAR'S REPORT THEN INSTEAD OF USING 6.4, WE COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT'S MORE ACCURATE? BECAUSE THAT 6.4 YEAH.
WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THAT THAT WAS A NUMBER THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE USED FOR FIVE YEARS, UH, BECAUSE IT WAS AN AVERAGE SHORTFALL.
AND IF IT'S NO LONGER ACCURATE, WE SHOULD PROBABLY REPORT IT DIFFERENTLY THAN 6.4.
AND INDICATE THAT THE, THAT THE AMOUNT HAS GONE UP.
AND YEAH, I, UM, I'LL BE COMPLETING A NEW FORECAST SOON, AND SO I'LL MAKE SURE TO WRAP THAT INTO THE NEXT REPORT THAT WE DO AND GET ALL THOSE FIGURES UPDATED.
UM, AND YOU'RE RIGHT, THAT THAT WAS THE FIVE YEAR AVERAGE.
AND SO, UM, IT WAS ESCALATING EACH YEAR.
SO THE FIRST YEAR WAS ACTUALLY LESS THAN THAT, BUT IF YOU LOOKED AT THE FIFTH YEAR
SO WE JUST KIND OF, YOU KNOW, DID A STRAIGHT AVERAGE.
UM, BUT IT IS CHANGING ALL THE TIME.
WELL, IF THE AVERAGE IS STILL GONNA BE CLOSE, THEN WE DON'T NEED TO MAKE ANY CHANGES, RIGHT? CORRECT.
BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S ESCALATING YEAH.
AND, AND ONE, I THINK, UM, JUST REFLECTING ON HOW THIS HAS SHOWN, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE COMPLICATING FACTORS IS, AND I I, I FEEL LIKE WE, WE MAY HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS WITH THE COMMITTEE LAST TIME, BUT YOU KNOW, WE HAD AN ESTIMATED DEFICIT THAT WAS ESTIMATED BASED ON FORECASTED REVENUES AND FORECASTED EXPENDITURES.
SO WE, WE WERE USING THAT 6.4 JUST AS LIKE, THIS IS OUR BASELINE DEFICIT THAT WE HAVE IN THE GENERAL FUND.
THAT OBVIOUSLY IS GONNA FLUCTUATE, THAT'LL CHANGE OVER THE YEARS.
BUT THEN ALSO THE OTHER COMPLICATING FACTOR IS THAT WE HAD A NUMBER OF NEW POSITIONS THAT WE WERE ADDING INTO THE BUDGET, LIKE JESSE'S MENTIONED, AS WELL AS, UH, COMPENSATION CHANGES FOR STAFF TO MAKE SURE WE CAN CONTINUE RECRUITING AND RETAINING.
ONCE YOU BUILD ALL OF THAT INTO THE GENERAL FUND AND YOU GO INTO THE NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, IT'S REALLY HARD TO KIND OF PIECE OUT, YOU KNOW, WHICH PIECE OF THIS IS JUST FOR STAFF SALARIES, WHICH OF THIS IS FOR THE EXISTING DEF, THE SORT OF LEGACY DEFICIT
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THAT WE ALREADY HAD.UH, AND SO THAT'S PARTIALLY WHY WE'VE SHOWN THIS TOGETHER.
UM, BECAUSE TO, TO KIND OF PARSE THAT OUT IS, IS NOT EASY.
AND WE WOULD, UM, SO, SO THAT'S, THAT'S SOME OF THE COMPLICATION THAT WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO SHOW IN THESE PIE CHARTS.
AND, AND I UNDERSTAND, BUT FROM APPEARANCE'S SAKE MM-HMM.
THE APPEARANCE IS THAT 6.4 DOESN'T WORK ANYMORE.
WE SHOULD, I THINK IN THE NEXT REPORT INDICATE THAT THE BUDGET DEFICIT NUMBER WE'RE USING TODAY IS NOW, YOU KNOW, EIGHT.
ALSO TOTALLY FAIR RELATED TO THAT, I THINK THE PUBLIC WANTS TO KNOW WELL, WHAT THEY'RE GETTING FROM MEASURE U.
AND SO IF IT'S JUST, IF, IF THERE'S 12.8 GOING TO GENERAL FUND SUPPORT IS JUST TOO VAGUE.
AND, UM, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BRIAN, ABOUT THAT.
IT'S HARD TO TEASE OUT SPECIFICALLY WHAT THAT 12, YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT EXACTLY IS.
BUT AS MUCH AS THAT COULD BE IDENTIFIED, I THINK IT WOULD HELP THE PUBLIC TO SEE WHAT THEY'RE GETTING FOR THEIR, IT ALSO GIVES THE IMPRESSION THAT WE'VE DOUBLED 6.4 WITH NEW POSITIONS WHEN IT'S NOT THE CASE.
AND FOR THOSE THAT LOOK, UM, IT WILL LOOK BETTER THAN IF WE'VE JUST DOUBLED STACKING.
WE GOT 11, I BELIEVE IT WAS 11 POSITIONS, BUT I HAVE WE ADDED ANYTHING NEW SINCE THE INITIAL 11? WELL, I KNOW THE GENERAL FUND HAS ADDED MORE POSITIONS, UM, BUT IT WASN'T NECESSARILY AS WE WERE ADDING THEM TO THE GENERAL FUND THAT THEY WERE EXPLICITLY SAYING, OH, AND THIS WILL BE SUPPORTED BY MEASURE U.
I THINK A LOT OF IT WILL KIND OF COME DOWN TO, UM, WE'LL LOOK AT THE GROWTH OF WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE GENERAL FUND OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS.
I'LL TRY AND, UM, PULL OUT SOME, SOME POSITION CONTROL INFORMATION SO WE CAN SEE WHAT POSITIONS HAVE BEEN ADDED AND WHEN THAT ARE BEING PAID OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND.
AND THEN SOME, IT'S JUST GONNA COME DOWN TO KIND OF EQUIVALENCIES, YOU KNOW, LIKE 12.8 MILLION IS THE SAME AS, I DON'T KNOW THE EQUIVALENCIES YET.
I HAVEN'T BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH, BUT YOU KNOW, THIS MUCH OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OR, YEAH.
SO WE'LL, WE'LL WORK ON THAT TO MAKE IT MORE EXPLICIT FOR THE NEXT, I'M CERTAINLY, YOU HAVE SOME ANALYTICAL WAY TO SAY 6.4 IS NOW 8.60 FOR SURE.
A PUBLIC, ANY, ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC ASKING CAN BE SATISFIED.
SO IT, IT'S ONLY COVERING THE DEBT SERVICE FOR THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH IS, WHICH IS REALLY DIFFERENT THAN PAYING FOR THE WORD ROAD IMPROVEMENTS.
I THINK THERE'S JUST A EDUCATION FACTOR FOR THE PUBLIC
I THINK PART OF OUR STRATEGY ON THAT, AND MAYBE WE CAN ARTICULATE THIS, IS THAT WE KNEW, ESPECIALLY ON THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS, SPEAKING TO THAT WE KNEW WE HAD SUCH A BACKLOG AND I, I, I WANNA SAY OVER A HUNDRED MILLION IN DEFERRED ROAD MAINTENANCE YEAH.
THAT WE NEEDED TO DO KIND OF A, YOU KNOW, A SHOT OF NEW IMPROVEMENTS.
SO WE FIGURED RATHER THAN SORT OF DRIP AND DRAB, YOU KNOW, THREE 4 MILLION A YEAR, UM, FOR, FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, WE WANTED TO DO THAT INITIAL, UH, 20 MILLION TO GET SOME BIG PROJECTS DONE, LIKE THE NORTH MCDOWELL BEING THE KEY ONE YEAH.
THAT SOME OF THOSE HAVE, UH, DOLLARS HAVE GONE TO.
UH, AND THEN WE DO ANTICIPATE, AS THE COMMITTEE MAY RECALL, A SECOND BOND ISSUANCE THAT WOULD ALSO BE FUNDED BY MEASURE U TO BOTH CONTRIBUTE TO ROAD IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL AS SOME OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE HAVE PLANNED, BOTH AT THE FAIRGROUNDS, BUT ALSO WITH OUR EXISTING STATIONS THAT NEED SOME MAJOR RENOVATIONS AND EXPANSIONS OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO THAT'S ALL TO COME IN THE NEXT, UH, SAY TWO TO FOUR YEARS.
DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG IT'LL TAKE THIS INITIAL BOND TO BE PAID OFF THIS 20 MILLION? DID YOU SAY 30 YEARS OR? I WOULD, I WOULD GUESS 30 YEARS.
I DON'T HAVE IT ALL, I BELIEVE 25 OR 30 YEARS.
BUT YOU'RE, YOU'RE ALSO PAYING FOR IMPROVEMENTS THAT LAST FOR QUITE A WHILE.
SO THAT'S PART OF, OF THE PUSH AND PULL WITH ISSUING BONDS IS YOU'RE PAYING THEM OFF OVER 25 OR 30 YEARS, BUT YOU'RE ALSO PUTTING IN, UM, SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE THAT HAS A LIFE CYCLE THAT HAS ITS OWN LIFESPAN.
SO YOU DON'T, WE WOULDN'T WANT TO ISSUE 30 YEAR BONDS AND BUILD IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE GONE IN FIVE YEARS, YOU KNOW? RIGHT.
SO, SO WE'RE TRYING TO DO LASTING IMPROVEMENTS THAT'LL
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INCREASE OUR OVERALL PAVEMENT CONDITION SO THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN CONTINUE TO ENJOY THAT.THE OTHER THING THAT I THINK HAS BEEN A STRATEGY, AND WE'VE BEEN, WE'VE HAD SOME GOOD SUCCESS, IS LEVERAGING THESE MEASURE YOU DOLLARS TO OBTAIN GRANTS.
SO WHETHER THAT'S USING MEASURE YOU JUST FOR THE DESIGN OR USING MEASURE USE SORT OF AS THE DOLLAR MATCH FOR FEDERAL AND STATE GRANTS.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE JUST LITERALLY DID NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO PRE-MEASURE U NOW THAT WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY TO DO THOSE THINGS, UH, THE CITY CAN BE WAY MORE COMPETITIVE, WHETHER IT'S, UH, UH, CTA GRANTS, STATE GRANTS, OR FEDERAL.
SO THAT'S, I THINK YOU'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO SEE THE FRUITS OF THAT LABOR DOWN THE ROAD AS WE, UM, HOPEFULLY CONTINUE TO HAVE A LOT OF SUCCESS WITH GRANTS.
AND THEN FINALLY WE'RE JUST, UM, GONNA TAKE A QUICK LOOK AT THE DETAILS OF THE PRIORITY INITIATIVES FOR THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.
AND SO IN THE CURRENT YEAR, WE'VE GOT $200,000 GOING INTO THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGER PROJECT.
WE HAVE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS GOING TOWARDS EMERGENCY POWER BACKUP FOR CITY HALL AND POLICE HEADQUARTERS.
UM, THAT'S TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT PROPERLY WORKING GENERATORS FOR BOTH LOCATIONS IN CASE OF EMERGENCIES.
UM, WE'VE GOT A LARGE, UH, $1.03 MILLION EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS.
UM, THAT'S A BROAD CATEGORY THAT INCLUDES, UM, LITTLE OVER $600,000 FOR REPLACEMENT OF POLICE VEHICLES THAT ARE OVERDUE FOR REPLACEMENT.
UM, SOME UPFIT FOR A FIRE ENGINE AS WELL AS A WILDFIRE MITIGATION PROGRAM FOR THE COMMUNITY.
UM, AND THEN OUR FINAL ONE IS A $180,000 THAT'S GOING TO FUND A PILOT PROGRAM FOR FAIR FREE PUBLIC TRANSIT.
IS THAT PART OF A GRANT? THE 180,000 IS A GRANT.
I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S PART OF A GRANT.
WE'RE JUST GONNA PILOT IT AND SEE HOW IT GOES.
UM, SO WE WANNA POINT OUT THAT THE CITY IS COMMITTED TO ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY AND ITS PROCESSES.
UH, THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT PERFORMS ONGOING MONITORING OF THE MEASURE YOU FUND AND PROCESSES ADJUSTMENTS AS NEEDED.
ALL FUNDS GOING TOWARDS CAPITAL PROJECTS DO REMAIN IN THE PROJECT UNTIL IT IS COMPLETE.
AND FINANCIAL DATA IS ALWAYS AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC VIA THE BUDGET AND THE AFER, WHICH ARE ON OUR WEBSITE AND THE FINANCE DEPARTMENTS' AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS LOOKING FORWARD.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE OUR NEXT OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE MEETING ON FEBRUARY 28TH.
UM, IN TALKING WITH MY BUDGET STAFF, IT SEEMS LIKE WE MIGHT NEED TO PUSH THAT A LITTLE BIT.
SO WE'LL BE REACHING OUT TO YOU TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S A ANOTHER TIME.
BUT I DON'T THINK BY MARCH, BY FEBRUARY 28TH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE GOOD NUMBERS FOR FISCAL 25 YET.
I THINK I GOT A LITTLE OVERZEALOUS.
UM, SO WE ARE IN THE EARLY STAGES OF DEVELOPING THE FISCAL 25 CITY BUDGET.
UM, THERE WILL BE A CITY COUNCIL BUDGET WORKSHOP IN MAY, UM, WHEN WE'LL BE PRESENTING THE FULL PROPOSED BUDGET.
AND THEN CITY COUNCIL ADOPTS THE BUDGET IN JUNE SO THAT WE CAN START OUR FISCAL 25 SPENDING AS OF JULY ONE.
IS THERE A QUARTERLY UP UPDATE FOR THE CURRENT BUDGET? SO FOR THE CURRENT YEAR, UM, WE'RE GONNA BE BRINGING A MID-YEAR.
WE USUALLY JUST DO A MID-YEAR REPORT.
AND SO THAT'S GOING TO COUNCIL, I BELIEVE IN MARCH.
WE'LL BE PULLING THAT TOGETHER TO TALK ABOUT WHERE THE, UM, WHERE EVERYTHING LOOKS AS OF HALFWAY THROUGH THE YEAR.
AND WE'LL ALSO BE BRINGING ANY BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS THAT ARE NEEDED AT THAT POINT.
AND SO THAT IS THE END OF MY PRESENTATION.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.
SO THE PETALUMA, UH, COMMUNITY BASEBALL FIELD IS NOT GIVEN ANY MONEY GOING FORWARD.
IS THAT, UH, FINISHED? UM, I BELIEVE WE'RE IN PHASE TWO AND IT'S USING OTHER FUNDING SOURCES FOR THE REMAINDER.
IS THERE A WAY WE CAN, UM, KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT, UH, LIKE MAYBE IN THE TEXT PUT WHAT THE TOTAL COSTS ARE AND WHAT THE MEASURE U IS IS ACTUALLY PAYING FOR? WOULD THAT, WOULD THAT BE OF ANY HELP TO, SO TO KNOW WHAT'S COMING DOWN THE LINE? YEAH, I MEAN, WE CAN DEFINITELY INCLUDE THE TOTAL PROJECT COST SO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN SEE WHAT PERCENTAGE MEASURE U IS.
NOW, IT'S NOT AS THOUGH MEASURE U IS GOING TO PAY SPECIFICALLY FOR A CERTAIN PART OF THE PROJECT, IT'S JUST GOING INTO THAT OVERALL BUCKET OF FUNDING THAT THEY'RE USING.
UM, SO, BUT WE CAN PROVIDE A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE PROJECTS AND, UM, HOW MUCH MEASURE U IS BEING USED AND WHETHER IT'S ANTICIPATED TO BE USED AGAIN IN THE FUTURE FOR THAT PROJECT.
SO SOMETHING LIKE THE BASEBALL FIELD, IF IT'S COMPLETED IN THE 2324 BUDGET, IT, WE WON'T SEE IT AGAIN.
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CORRECT.IT SHOULD BE DONE FOR, I MEAN, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE PUTTING MORE MONEY TOWARDS IT NEXT YEAR OR SO.
I MEAN, WE WE'RE KIND OF TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
SO WE'VE GOT THE FIVE YEAR CIP PLAN, WHICH BUDGETS OUT ALL OF THE PROJECTS OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS WITH OUR ESTIMATED FUNDING SOURCES AND ALL OF THAT.
AND THEN WE'VE GOT THE MEASURE YOU REPORT WHERE WE'RE GENERALLY NOT LOOKING THAT FAR AHEAD.
SO IT MIGHT SKIP A YEAR, AND THEN WE SAY, OH, WAIT, WE'RE GONNA NEED MORE MONEY TO FINISH THIS IN 26.
I THINK MEASURE U MIGHT BE THE BEST PLACE, BUT WE WON'T, YOU KNOW, WE'LL LOOK AT THAT ALL AGAIN AS WE BUILD THE NEXT THAT BUDGET.
SO AGAIN, WE, WE, WE CAN PUT IN SOME ESTIMATES, BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO GIVE YOU THAT FULL PICTURE OF HOW, WHERE IS THE CIP PROJECT AND, AND ALL OF THAT.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I'M NOT SURE IF I EXPLAINED THAT WELL.
WELL, UH, UM, YEAH, I THINK SO.
BUT FOR EXAMPLE, THE EV CHARGERS, THEY'RE, UM, THEY'RE NOT, YOU HAVEN'T EVEN, WE HAVEN'T EVEN DETERMINED WHERE THEY'RE GOING.
SO ARE WE SPENDING ALL OF THAT BUDGET THIS YEAR ON JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE TO PUT 'EM OR, WELL, I BELIEVE WE'VE, I THINK WE KNOW WHERE WE'RE PUTTING THEM.
I THINK WHAT I WAS TOLD WAS THAT AT THIS POINT WE'RE NOW FIGURING OUT HOW TO GET ENOUGH ELECTRICITY TO THE PLACES WE WANT TO PUT THEM.
SO WE'RE HAVING TO WORK WITH PG E ON MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT TRANSFORMERS AND ALL OF THAT TYPE OF EQUIPMENT.
SO IT'S JUST, IT'S A BIT OF A PROCESS TO GET THESE OLDER FACILITIES READY FOR THIS TYPE OF INFRASTRUCTURE.
I'M DEALING WITH PG E ON EV CHARGERS RIGHT NOW AT THE BEST WESTERN PETALUMA INN.
AND IT'S BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR THREE YEARS.
BUT IT'S ALL PAID FOR BY A GRANT.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M WONDERING IF WE, HAVE WE BEEN ABLE TO GET A GRANT FOR THIS? I THINK, YEAH.
WE DID RECEIVE A GRANT FOR THE CITYWIDE EV CHARGER STUDY, WHICH IS A SIGNIFICANT PIECE OF WORK TO, TO ANALYZE ALL THE THINGS THAT JESSE WAS MENTIONING.
UM, THIS PIECE THOUGH, UH, I BELIEVE IS MORE FOCUSED ON, UM, JUST LOOKING AT THE CITY FACILITIES THEMSELVES.
YOU KNOW, HOW MANY SHOULD BE AT THE POLICE STATION, HOW MANY SHOULD BE AT THE FI FIRE STATIONS, AND THEN STARTING TO IMPLEMENT THOSE INSTALLATIONS.
SO WE KIND OF HAVE TWO MULTIPLE EV CHARGING PROGRAMS GOING AT THE SAME TIME.
ONE LOOKING AT MORE CITYWIDE INFRASTRUCTURE AND LONG-TERM MASTER PLANNING OF WHERE, UH, ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE SHOULD GO.
VERSUS THIS PROJECT, WHICH I BELIEVE IS MORE FOCUSED JUST ON GETTING NEW CHARGERS INSTALLED AT CITY FACILITIES.
AND THAT GRANT I, THAT THAT OVERALL CITYWIDE PROJECT, I'M GONNA GO FROM MEMORY HERE, BUT I WANNA SAY IT WAS LIKE FOUR TO $500,000.
SO IT WAS A VERY SIGNIFICANT GRANT THAT WE GOT FOR THAT STUDY.
AND THEN THE, UM, THE VEHICLE CHARGING INSTALLATIONS IS MORE ON THE MEASURE EAST SIDE.
JESSE, WHAT CONCERNS ME, AND, UH, IT MAY BE HAPPENING SOONER THAN WE THOUGHT, IS WE ORIGINALLY HOPED FOR 13 MILLION IN REVENUE.
WE GOT 15, NOW WE'RE GETTING 16.
THERE'S GONNA BE CRITICAL MASS AT SOME POINT WITH HOW MUCH SALES TAX REVENUE CAN WE GENERATE? MM-HMM.
SO IF 16 MILLION IS THAT RANGE, 16 TO 17 MILLION IS WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA KIND OF START TO SEE THE CURVE.
AND WE'RE ALREADY AT OVER 12 MILLION JUST IN TO BUDGET SHORTFALL AND THE NEW POSITIONS WE'VE ADDED AND WE'VE JUST SPENT EVERYTHING IN RESERVE.
'CAUSE THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, ONE-TIME FUNDS THAT WE'RE GONNA GET BACK AND WHAT WE'RE COMMITTED TO.
AND, AND IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THE ARGUMENT AGAINST MEASURE U WAS THAT AT SOME POINT THERE WAS AN ARGUMENT THAT IN FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS, MEASURE USED FUNDS WEREN'T GONNA COVER THE SHORTFALL.
AND I THINK WE'RE ALREADY SEEING THAT THE GAP IS STARTING TO, TO SHORTEN.
SO, UM, THE COMMITTEE SHOULD BE AWARE THAT WE MAY BE LOOKING AT FAR FEWER DISCRETIONARY ITEMS BEING SPENT IN THE NEXT TWO TO FIVE YEARS.
WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT THAT VERY CLOSELY BECAUSE THAT CONCERNS ME AS WELL.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE OUR, UM, SALES TAX TAX CONSULTANTS ARE FORECASTING GROWTH OF, YOU KNOW, AROUND 2% A
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YEAR FOR MEASURE U, WHICH IS GREAT, BUT I DON'T SEE ANYTHING ELSE STICKING TO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE SAYING THAT IN INFLATION AND CPI IS GONNA BE 3% A YEAR, SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO KEEP UP.AND SO WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE, WHAT WE CAN DO TO BALANCE THIS SO THAT WE'RE NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANNA SEE A HUNDRED PERCENT OF MEASURE U JUST KEEPING THE GENERAL FUND, UM, TOGETHER.
SO YEAH, WE'RE GONNA BE TAKING A REALLY CLOSE LOOK AT ALL OF OUR FORECASTS.
WHAT IS THE, UM, I JUST FORGOT TO ASK THIS IN THE MIDDLE, WHAT, WHAT KIND OF EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS IS MEASURE U FUNDING? OH, YEAH.
SO THE EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS, IT'S A FEW DIFFERENT ITEMS. SO WE'VE GOT, UM, A LITTLE OVER HALF OF IT'S GOING TO REPLACE POLICE VEHICLES THAT ARE, UM, OVERDUE FOR REPLACEMENT.
WE ALSO HAVE UPFIT FOR A FIRE ENGINE, SO IT CAN BETTER RESPOND TO EMERGENCIES.
AND THEN THERE'S SOME AMOUNT SET ASIDE FOR A WILDFIRE MITIGATION PROGRAM FOR THE COMMUNITY.
SO THAT'LL BE ACCESS TO A WOOD CHIPPER AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO IT'S NOT CITIZEN EMERGENCY REPAIR, IT'S NOT EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS, IT'S IT'S CITY EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS.
YEAH, I THINK THEY WERE JUST KIND OF GROUPED TOGETHER INTO A PACKAGE.
WELL, I, I DO THINK THAT LAST, THAT PIECE, WHICH IS NOT BIG DOLLARS, THE, UM, THE WILDFIRE MITIGATION THAT, HMM.
I THINK THE HOPE FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS THAT THAT COULD BE TAKING THE, YOU KNOW, DOING LIKE A, A CHIPPER DAY IN NEIGHBORHOODS MM-HMM.
SO LIKE YOU COULD UTILIZE THAT RESOURCE, TRIM YOUR TREES, GATHER ALL OF YOUR WASTE, BE GREAT, THEN IT WOULD ALL GO INTO THE CITY CHIPPING PROGRAM.
SO THAT HOPEFULLY WILL BE A COMMUNITY BENEFIT THAT NEIGHBORHOODS CAN LOOK FORWARD TO.
SO ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF FROM THE COMMITTEE? NO.
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HEARING NONE, UH, WE NEED AN APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF THE MARCH 21ST, 2023 MEETING.I BELIEVE THREE OF US WERE AT THAT MEETING.
IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES? I MOVE.
WE ACCEPT THE MINUTES MOVED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER DAVISON, I'LL SECOND AND SECONDED.
AND ALL OF US, ALL OF THE THREE THAT WERE HERE IN FAVOR.
AND WE'VE APPROVED THE MINUTES, UM, PUBLIC HEARING AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION.
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UM, ANY OTHER COMMITTEE COMMENTS? I JUST WANNA BE SURE THAT WE ADDRESS SUSAN KIRK'S CONCERNS 'CAUSE SHE DID EXPECT US TO DISCUSS THAT AND TO BE CERTAIN THAT WE AS A COMMITTEE ARE REPORTING PROPERLY ON, ON THE EXPENDITURES AND IF IT NEEDS TO BE IN WRITING OR IF THIS IS WHAT WE DO.I THINK THE QUESTION IS HOW DO WE APPROPRIATELY YEAH.
RESPOND TO THE CITY COUNCIL SO THAT THEY KNOW THE COMMITTEE HAS DONE THE JOB THAT THE VOTERS ASKED FOR.
I APPRECIATED, UM, SUSAN KIRK'S COMMENTS MM-HMM.
AND, BUT I THINK THAT, I MEAN, WE ARE NOT GONNA SIT DOWN AND WRITE THE REPORT OURSELVES.
WE'RE GONNA TAKE, WE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE RECEIVED A REPORT FROM THE CITY, WE ASKED QUESTIONS.
THE NEXT MEETING WE'LL GET SOME ANSWERS THAT WILL GO INTO THE FINAL REPORT.
AND, AND THAT'S THE WAY I SEE IT.
I, I, I THINK THAT'S WELL SAID.
SO OUR, I THINK OUR VISION WAS THAT THE COMMITTEE, IT JUST BY WAY OF WHAT QUESTIONS YOU'RE ASKING, COMMENTS THAT YOU'RE GIVING US FEEDBACK, YOU KNOW, TO CHANGE AND IMPROVE THE REPORTING OVER TIME.
UH, WHETHER OR NOT YOU AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH CERTAIN EXPENDITURES, AS WELL AS WHEN WE BRING THE BUDGETING BACK FOR THE NEXT MEETING, KIND OF LOOKING FORWARD COMMENTS, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, HOW HOW SHOULD WE CHANGE MEASURE YOU BUDGETING GOING FORWARD.
THOSE WILL ALL BE ENTERED INTO THE RECORD.
AND I THINK THAT ALL SERVES AS THE COMMITTEE'S FEEDBACK ON THE REPORT AND THE MEASURE YOU AND THE EXPENDITURES.
AND SO I THINK THAT WAS OUR VIEW OF THAT IS THE COMMITTEE REVIEWING AND COMMENTING ON PER THE ORDINANCE, WHICH IS YOUR CHARGE.
SO THE, THE COUNCIL THEN WILL GET A COPY OF THE FINAL REPORT.
WHICH COMMITTEE COMMENTS AND THE DATES AND THE A THE MINUTES OF OUR MEETINGS, THE MINUTES ABSOLUTELY WILL BE PUBLIC.
THE COUNCIL HAS ACCESS TO THOSE AND THE REPORTS, BOTH THE PAST REPORTS AS WELL AS THIS ONE AND FUTURE WILL ALL BE ON THE WEBSITE AS WELL.
SO THOSE ARE ALL FULLY ACCESSIBLE.
AND, AND WHAT WE WOULD GET AT THE NEXT MEETING WOULD BE ANSWERS TO SOME OF OUR QUESTIONS ASK, LIKE ASKING FOR MORE TRANSPARENCY ABOUT WHAT THAT 12.8 MILLION IS ACTUALLY GOING FUNDING, THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND ACTUALLY A FEW OF THESE ITEMS, UM, I THINK IT'D BE EASIER FOR US TO JUST EMAIL THE COMMITTEE THE ANSWER.
SO LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, JUST WHILE WE'VE BEEN TALKING, I WAS TRYING TO TRACK DOWN SOME OF THE INFORMATION ON THAT CLIMATE OUTREACH QUESTION THAT WE HAD EARLIER.
AND SO IF WE GET THAT INFORMATION BACK, THEN WE CAN PUSH THAT
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OUT TO YOU ALL SO THAT YOUR QUESTION HOPEFULLY IS ANSWERED.AND IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL FOLLOW UP AT THE NEXT MEETING, WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT AS WELL.
SO THE REPORT TO THE COUNCIL, WILL THAT BE AFTER OUR NEXT MEETING OR IS IT AFTER THIS MEETING? I BELIEVE, JESSE, CORRECT ME, BUT THE REPORT THAT YOU SAW TODAY WAS THE YEAR FISCAL YEAR END 23 REPORT.
AND COUNCIL WILL SEE THAT THE ONE COMING UP IS SORT OF LIKE THE MIDYEAR AND THE BUDGET PREVIEW.
IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
SO JUST TO, I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR, JANE, ARE YOU ASKING FOR ANYTHING TO BE CHANGED? YEAH.
ON, ON THIS REPORT? I AM THIS REPORT.
WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE YOU ASKING FOR? I WANT MORE TRANSPARENCY ON THAT 12.8 MILLION IN THE REPORT, YOU KNOW, SO THAT IT'S NOT JUST, WELL THIS JUST GOES TO FUND THE GENERAL FUND.
IT'S LIKE, WHAT IS IT FUNDING IN THE GENERAL FUND? COULD WE BREAK IT DOWN AND CAN THAT BE PART OF THE REPORT? IS IT, I THINK IT WAS BROKEN DOWN.
SO, SO THE 12, UH, THE 12.8 MILLION NUMBER THAT'S IN THE FISCAL 24 BUDGET.
SO BECAUSE THAT'S CURRENT YEAR AND I'LL BE REPORTING ON CURRENT YEAR AND THE NEXT REPORT, I CAN PROVIDE A LOT MORE DETAIL IN THE REPORT THAT I BRING NEXT TIME.
UM, IT SEEMS LIKE IF A LOT OF YOUR QUESTIONS ARE REALLY AROUND THE CURRENT YEAR BUDGET, THEN I THINK WE CAN LEAVE THIS REPORT, WHICH WAS REALLY BASED ABOUT THE FISCAL 23 END OF YEAR.
AND THEN I WILL WORK ON THIS NEXT REPORT TO BRING IN ALL OF THAT TRANSPARENCY AND EVERYTHING.
SO WE'RE GONNA BE REPORTING ON CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, UM, PROVIDING ACTUALS THROUGH HALFWAY THROUGH THE YEAR AND MANY BUDGET UPDATES, AND THEN ALSO TALKING ABOUT FISCAL 25.
SO WOULD THAT COVER YOUR CONCERNS? I, WELL HELP ME.
I GUYS, THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE REPORTING TO THE COUNCIL ON NOW AND WHERE WE'RE AT 9.7 IN GENERAL FUND SUPPORT.
SO IT'S 6.4 PLUS THE ADDITIONAL POSITIONS, AND THEN THESE ARE THE, THE, I UNDERSTAND THE MILLION DOLLARS IN PUBLIC SAFETY IS NOT IN THE LAST BUDGET THAT WE'RE APPROVING.
THAT'S IN THIS BUDGET THAT WE'LL NEXT JANUARY, AM I CORRECT? YEAH, IT'S, YEAH, IT'S THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.
SO IT'S THE YEAR BEGINNING JULY 1ST AND ENDING JUNE 30TH.
SO BECAUSE I'LL BE REPORTING, THINKING ON IT AGAIN, I THINK THE NEEDS MORE TRANSPARENCY SO THAT IT'S POSSIBLE TO POINT TO THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE GETTING FROM MEASURE U.
AND I CAN DEFINITELY, UM, INCORPORATE THAT INTO THE NEXT REPORT.
UM, SO THAT'LL JUST BE AT OUR NEXT MEETING, UM, PROBABLY TOWARDS THE END OF MARCH.
WE'LL, WE'LL FIND A DATE THAT WORKS FOR EVERYONE.
UM, BUT YEAH, I WILL INCORPORATE ALL OF THAT SO WE DON'T JUST SAY GENERAL FUND SUPPORT 12 MILLION, I'LL, I'LL BRING SOME MORE DETAIL INTO IT.
IS, IS THERE SOME SORT OF VEHICLE WAY? IS THERE SOME MEANS THAT WE CAN GET THE INFORMATION OUT TO THE PUBLIC WITHOUT HAVING THEM GO TO THE CITY WEBSITE? I MEAN, I'M JUST ASKING, MAYBE IT'S NEVER BEEN DONE, BUT, UM, HOW DOES THE, WELL, FOR EXAMPLE, NEWSPAPER DO AN ARTICLE OR, I MEAN, HOW DO WE GET IT OUT THERE? I MEAN, ONE, ONE RELATIVELY EASY WAY IS WE DO HAVE A CITY EMAIL NEWSLETTER, WHICH MANY OF YOU OR ALL OF YOU PROBABLY RECEIVE.
I I WANNA SAY IT'S EITHER ONCE A WEEK OR ONCE EVERY TWO WEEKS.
SO WE COULD PUT A LITTLE NEWS ITEM IN THERE THAT SAYS, HEY, THE MEASURE YOU, YOU KNOW, 23 ANNUAL REPORT IS NOW FINAL, HERE'S THE LINK RIGHT TO THE WEBSITE.
THEY CAN DOWNLOAD IT FOR THEMSELVES IF THEY'D LIKE TO READ MORE INFORMATION SO PEOPLE CAN LOOK AT IT AND SEE YEAH, WELL WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENED WITH THAT.
AND I KNOW SOMETIMES YOU'VE PUT NOTICES IN THE WATER BILLS, THE CITY WATER BILLS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ANOTHER MEANS OF GETTING THE WORD OUT.
THOSE ARE, I THINK U USUALLY MORE FOCUSED ON WATER AND WASTEWATER RELATED.
UM, BUT I THINK THE EMAIL LIST HAS QUITE A LARGE DISTRIBUTION, UH, AT THIS POINT.
SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE A PRETTY OKAY.
PRETTY SOLID WAY TO GET SOME MORE EYES ON IT.
IT COULD ALSO BE POSTED ON, ON THE CITY'S FACEBOOK PAGE.
YEAH, WE COULD DO THAT AS WELL.
FOR EXAMPLE, COULD WE ALSO GET AN EMAIL COPY OF THE CURRENT REPORT THAT YOU JUST DID? YES.
IT, IT, IT'LL AL IT'S ALSO AVAILABLE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.
IF YOU GO TO THE, IF YOU LOOK UP THE MEETING, IT'LL HAVE LINKS TO THE AGENDA, TO THE REPORT THAT I JUST GAVE.
UM, NOT THE POWERPOINT, BUT I CAN EMAIL THE POWERPOINT.
WELL THAT, THAT'S WHAT I WAS HOPING FOR.
IF I COULD GET THE POWERPOINT, WE CAN SEND THAT OUT AND WE CAN ALSO ATTACH THAT TO THE AGENDA ITEMS SO THAT IF YOU'RE LOOKING BACK AT PRIOR AGENDAS, YOU
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CAN ALSO DOWNLOAD IT DIRECTLY.I, I KNOW I'M PLANNING TO SPEAK TO ALL THREE ROTARY CLUBS AND THE KIWANIS CLUB ABOUT THIS.
'CAUSE THEY ALL WANT TO KNOW ABOUT IT.
SO ANY OTHER COMMITTEE COMMENT? NO STAFF COMMENTS? UH, DO I NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN OR DO WE JUST ADJOURN? JUST ADJOURN.