Feb 05, 2024 City Council

GOOD EVENING, MAJA MARIA ALVEZ.

WE'RE READY.

AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, BEFORE WE GO INTO OUR ROLL CALL FOR THE EVENING, I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT OUR COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLE WILL BE, UH, JOINING US, PARTICIPATING REMOTELY VIA TELECONFERENCE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE BROWN ACT, UH, AND, AND THE WONDER OF TECHNOLOGY.

SO, UM, MAY WE HAVE THE ROLL CALL? YES.

UM, WITH THAT, LET'S, UH, STAND AND TAKE OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG.

DO NOT STAND.

MAYOR REPUBLIC UHHUH ONE NATION UNDER FOR LIBERATION AND JUSTICE, HONOR, AND A MOMENT OF SILENCE.

UH, AGENDA CHANGES AND DELETIONS, I AM LOOKING UP AND DOWN THE COUNCIL AND TO STAFF, AND WE APPEAR TO BE FOLLOWING THE AGENDA AS IT'S POSTED FOR THE EVENING.

AND IN REVIEWING FOR ANY,

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AND, UH, NOW, UH, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE OUR PROCLAMATION

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FOR THE EVENING, AND I'D LIKE TO INVITE RAMONA FAITH, CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER OF HEALTHY PETALUMA DISTRICT AND FOUNDATION, UH, TO THE PODIUM AS I READ THE PROCLAMATION, AND THEN TO HAVE A MINUTE TO SPEAK.

WHEREAS THE HEALTHY PETALUMA DISTRICT AND FOUNDATION HEALTHY PETALUMA WAS FORMED IN 1946 BY WILL OF THE PEOPLE WITH BOARD MEMBERS LOCALLY ELECTED AND ACCOUNTABLE FOR IMPROVING HEALTH AND WELLBEING OF SOUTHERN SONOMA COUNTY.

AND WHEREAS HEALTHY PETALUMA SERVES AS THE LEADING ORGANIZATION PROVIDING BACKBONE SUPPORT FOR COMMUNITY-WIDE HEARTSAFE COMMUNITY INITIATIVE IN COLLABORATION WITH THE PETALUMA FIRE DEPARTMENT, RANCHO ADOBE FIRE DISTRICT, PETALUMA SAVE A LIFE SAVES LIVES.

SONOMA REDCOM 9 1 1, UH, DISPATCH.

PETALUMA VALLEY HOSPITAL, THE AMERICAN HEART ASSOCIATION AND COMMUNITY VOLUNTEERS TO DESIGNATE PETALUMA AS A HEART SAFE COMMUNITY.

WHEREAS HEALTHY PETALUMA WORKS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH HEARTS OF SONOMA COUNTY AND HEARTSAFE COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY ON HEART HEALTH STRATEGIES.

AND WHEREAS THE GOAL OF THE HEARTSAFE COMMUNITY PROGRAM IS TO INCREASE SURVIVAL RATES AND REDUCE DISABILITY FROM SUDDEN CARDIAC ARREST BY STRENGTHENING OUR COMMUNITY'S RESPONSE TO CARDIAC EMERGENCIES THROUGH C-P-R-A-E-D CERTIFICATION AND TRAINING, STRATEGIC A ED INSTALLATION AND A ED MAINTENANCE, PROMOTING HEART HEALTH EDUCATION AND FOLLOWING THE AMERICAN HEART ASSOCIATIONS LINKS IN THE CARDIAC CHAIN OF SURVIVAL, SUCH AS IMMEDIATE RECOGNITION OF HEART CARDIAC ARREST AND ACTIVATION OF EMERGENCY RESPONSE SYSTEM.

EARLY CARDIOPULMONARY

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RESUSCITATION CPR WITH AN EMPHASIS ON CHEST COMPRESSIONS AFTER COLLAPSE, RAPID DEFIBRILLATION WITH AN A ED WITHIN THREE TO FIVE MINUTES, EFFECTIVE ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT, INTEGRATED POSTCARD, UH, CARE.

AND WHEREAS CARDIOVASCULAR DISEASE IS THE NUMBER ONE CAUSE OF DEATH IN SONOMA COUNTY, AND SUDDEN CARDIAC ARRESTS CAN HAPPEN ANYWHERE, AT ANY TIME, AT ANY AGE.

AND A HEART SAFE COMMUNITY ACTION PLAN WAS DEVELOPED AND IMPLEMENTED THAT HAS MET ESTABLISHED CRITERIA FOR DESIGNATION THAT SUPPORTS THE CHAIN OF SURVIVAL, SUCH AS COMMUNITY EDUCATION ON THE SIGNS AND SYMPTOMS OF HEART ATTACK, THE IMPORTANCE OF CALLING 9 1 1 WIDESPREAD COMMUNITY-BASED BILINGUAL CPR AND A ED INSTRUCTION, PUBLIC ACCESS DEFIBRILLATORS, A ED MAINTENANCE PLAN, AND DEVELOPING SUSTAINABLE REDESIGNATION PLAN FOR THE COMMUNITY.

SO NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT HI, KEVIN MCDONALD, MAYOR OF PETALUMA, ALONG WITH THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY CONTINUE TO DESIGNATE PETALUMA AS A HEART SAFE COMMUNITY.

ENCOURAGE ALL RESIDENTS TO LEARN THE LINKS IN THE CHAIN OF SURVIVAL AND OTHER LIFESAVING TECHNIQUES TO INCREASE THE CHANCES OF SURVIVAL IN THE EVENT OF A CARDIAC ARREST, CARDIAC ARREST.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THAT'S A MOUTHFUL, ISN'T IT? SO I WANNA THANK MAYOR MCDONALD AND THE COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR THIS, UM, HONOR.

UM, I ALSO WANNA INTRODUCE TAMMY BENDER.

SHE'S ACTUALLY THE HEART OF THE HEART SAFE COMMUNITY PROGRAM.

SHE'S ALSO, UM, IS CELEBRATING HER 20 YEARS OF SERVICE, UH, TO THE PENMAN HEALTHCARE DISTRICT, WHICH IS NOW KNOWN AS HEALTHY PETALUMA.

SO THAT'S EXCITING.

BUT THE PARTNERSHIP AND THE SUPPORT THAT THE CITY HAS HAS PROVIDED US, UH, THE FIRE, THE WONDERFUL FIREMEN WHO ARE BACK HERE, JEFF AND HIS CREW, AS WELL AS OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, AS WELL AS OUR EMS SYSTEM.

THIS IS DEFINITELY A COMMUNITY-WIDE EFFORT AND, AND WE ARE SAVING LIVES.

BUT I DO WANNA GIVE TAMMY JUST AN OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, SHE'S THE HEART OF THE PROGRAM.

HI, THANKS AGAIN FOR THIS RECOGNITION.

THIS IS OUR 10TH YEAR OF HAVING PETALUMA BE A HEART SAFE COMMUNITY, AND WE ARE LOOKING TO EXPAND THE PROGRAM TO OTHER CITIES, AND EVENTUALLY A HEART SAFE COUNTY WOULD BE A GREAT GOAL.

UH, LAST WINTER, RAMONA AND I ATTENDED A SEMINAR IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AND, UH, FOR A SUDDEN CARDIAC ARREST.

AND THE THEME WAS, UM, CHALLENGE THE STATUS QUO.

AND WHAT THAT KIND OF MEANT WAS, DESPITE ALL THIS WORK, WE'RE NOT MAKING HUGE STRIDES, UM, IN SAVING LIVES WITH CPR AND AEDS.

AS MUCH AS WE WANT, WE ARE MOVING THE NEEDLE, BUT IT'S SLOW GOING.

SO A COUPLE TAKEAWAYS THAT WE REALLY GOT WAS, UM, EDUCATING THE COMMUNITY AND THE PUBLIC AND HAVING ACCESS TO PUBLIC, UH, ACCESS DEFIBRILLATORS.

AND THE REASON I WANNA BRING THAT UP IS NEXT WEEK, UH, IN COLLABORATION WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND SAVES LIFE SONOMA.

WE ARE AGAIN, TRAINING ABOUT 1507TH GRADERS ALL ACROSS PETALUMA.

WE JUST FINISHED TRAINING ABOUT 1500 IN SANTA ROSA.

AND LAST AUGUST, PETALUMA GOT ITS VERY FIRST 24 7 ACCESSIBLE, A ED, AND IT WAS PLACED AT LAKEHORN PARK.

AND THAT IS GREATLY THANKS TO THE THREE PETALUMA ROTARIES AND THE CITY OF PETALUMA WHO HAS INSTALLED THAT FOR US.

UH, AND WE'RE GETTING TWO MORE.

UH, IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER OUTDOOR ACCESSIBLE A ED AT THE MIRACLE FIELD AT LUCCHESE, AND ANOTHER ONE AT THE PETALUMA SPORTS COMPLEX.

SO OUR GOAL IS TO GET MORE OF THESE THINGS.

SO SHOULD THE NEED ARISE, EVERYONE CAN START CPR IMMEDIATELY AND HAVE ACCESS TO A A ED.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

PERFECT.

LASTLY, I JUST WANNA MENTION I AM CHANGING THE ELECTRODES AND THE A ED IN THE HALLWAY, SO YOU MIGHT HEAR A LITTLE BEEPING RIGHT NOW.

DON'T BE ALARMED, .

UH, WE'RE NOW MOVING TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS, AND DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, THE PUBLIC'S INVITED TO MAKE COMMENT ON ITEMS OF PUBLIC INTEREST THAT ARE

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WITHIN THE CITY COUNCIL'S SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION, AND THAT ARE NOT LISTED AS ANOTHER ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO UP TO THREE MINUTES, DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WISHING TO SPEAK.

TIME WILL BE ALLOCATED IN EQUAL SHARES, TOTALING NO MORE THAN 20 MINUTES.

UM, I THINK I'D LIKE TO INVITE OUR, UH, MODERATOR TO READ THE MESSAGING FOR THE EVENING HERE.

AND THEN, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO HAVE, UH, DYLAN BRADY TO COMMENT FIRST.

I, I THINK WE'RE GONNA BE OKAY.

OKAY, SOUNDS GOOD.

LET ME SHARE THE SCREEN.

SO AT THIS TIME, I WILL START A 32ND CLOCK FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.

MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING IN PERSON SHOULD BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARDS TO THE CLERK'S DESK IF THEY HAVE NOT ALREADY DONE SO.

SPEAKERS ARE REMINDED TO BE RESPECTFUL IN THEIR COMMENTS AND THAT THIS MEETING IS BEING TRANSLATED.

PLEASE PAUSE BETWEEN SENTENCES FOR TRANSLATION.

A COUNTDOWN WILL APPEAR FOR THE CONVENIENCE OF THE SPEAKER AND VIEWERS.

COULD YOU REPEAT THAT PLEASE? HOW LONG DOES THE SPEAKER HAVE? SO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OUR 32ND CLOCK FOR GETTING YOUR CARD IN IS NOW COMPLETE.

AND I THINK THE SALIENT QUESTION IS HOW MANY PEOPLE WISH TO SPEAK TONIGHT? AND TONIGHT, THERE ARE 14 CARDS ON MY DESK AND I SEE NO ONE RUSHING.

SO DOING THE MATH FOR THIS, UM, IT'S GOING TO BE 90 SECONDS PER PERSON, PER CARD TONIGHT.

MY NAME'S ROBERT HANSEN, VET, RETIRED CARPENTER, GRANDFATHER.

AND SO I'D LIKE TO START WITH ROBERT HANSON AND THEN FOLLOWED BY BERT.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.

HEY EVERYBODY.

THE BEST IN THE HEALTH AND SPIRIT.

CITY COUNCIL IS NOT MY FIRST STOP.

MY SCHOOL BOARD IS MY FIRST STOP, AND THAT'S NOT GOING WELL AT ALL.

THE ATTACK ON THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF OUR CHILDREN IN OUR STATE ACROSS OUR COUNTRY IS EVIL.

GAVIN NEWSOM HAS ESTABLISHED THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA IS A NATIONAL DESTINATION FOR ABORTION UP TO AND INCLUDING BIRTH.

YOU KNOW, ROB, THE NATIONAL DESTINATION, DON'T DO IT.

THE NATIONAL DESTINATION.

OKAY, SURGICAL.

ROBERT.

ROBERT, I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS STAY ON PETALUMA COUNSEL ABILITIES.

AND I HAVE NOT SEEN THAT YOU'RE MAKING A CONNECTION TO COUNCIL AGENDA, SO IF YOU COULD SAY ON OUR SUBJECT MATTER.

UNDERSTOOD.

AND I'D LIKE TO SPEAK FOR A FRIEND OF MINE WHO CANNOT ATTEND CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE TONIGHT.

HIS NAME'S PETER CHERNOFF.

WE KNOW HIM AS CACTUS PETE.

HE'S BEEN A FRIEND OF MINE FOR 15 YEARS.

HE'S A POET.

HE'S A PUBLISHED AUTHOR.

HE'S AN ACTIVIST.

AND BECAUSE OF THE LIES THAT A MAN COACHED A 9-YEAR-OLD LITTLE GIRL, TO ACCUSE PETER, SHE OF PEDOPHILIA THE MOST HEINOUS OF CRIMES, AN ACCUSATION SHE RESCINDED FOUR DAYS LATER, BUT NOT BEFORE.

PETER SPENT TWO DAYS IN JAIL, PETER THEN SPENT FOUR DAYS IN JAIL FOR THAT.

YOUR TIME IS UP.

UNFORTUNATELY, YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED.

TURN MY PUBLIC COMMENT ON.

WE HAVE THE 90 SECONDS.

AND, UM, MANY SPEAKERS WHO WISH TO SPEAK.

THAT WAS 90 SECONDS.

WE'RE EXTREMELY GRATEFUL.

MOVING NEXT TO BERT BURTA TO BE FOLLOWED BY, UH, SANDRA SHAND.

THAT'S GONNA BE A TOUGH ACT TO FOLLOW.

GOOD EVENING ESTEEM COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND I DON'T USE THAT TERM LIGHTLY BECAUSE WE, YOUNGSTOWN, LOVE WHAT YOU'RE DOING FOR US.

IT'S A RARE DAY WHEN A BODY OF YOURS LIKE YOURS COMES TOGETHER IN FULL SUPPORT OF A COMMUNITY LIKE YOUNGSTOWN.

YOU HAVE GIVEN US YOUR TIME, ATTENTION, AND RESOURCES TO FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT OF DEFENDING OUR RIGHT TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN PETALUMA.

WE'RE ALSO PROUD TO BE HELPING DEFEND THE RENT CONTROL ORDINANCE THAT HAS LONG BEEN ESTABLISHED IN PETALUMA.

I PERSONALLY FEEL LIKE THIS IS A CHALLENGE TO BASIC CITIZENS' RIGHTS TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AND WHAT IS DECIDED HERE, EITHER FOR OR AGAINST THE GREEDY,

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ILLEGAL, AND EGREGIOUS ATTEMPT AT RAISING OUR SPACE.

RENT A HUNDRED PERCENT WILL AFFECT EVERY ATTEMPT AT PROVIDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR CITIZENS IN NOT ONLY PETALUMA, BUT SONOMA COUNTY AND THROUGHOUT THE NATION.

THANKS FOR STANDING UP FOR US.

AS I USUALLY DO, GIVE AN ADMONISHMENT THAT WE NOT CHEER OR CHEER ANYONE.

AND SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR RESPECTING THE DECORUM OF THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

SANDRA SHAN SHOULD BE FOLLOWED BY LUIGI, UH, P DOVE.

LAST COUNSEL, I WAS SLANDERED BY THE ASSERTION.

THE ONLY REASON ANYONE ONCE CEASED FIRE IS TO HELP KILL JEWS.

MY LIFE'S WORK IS HUMAN RIGHTS, OPPOSING RACISM, ANTISEMITISM, ANTI-ARAB HATE.

I NEVER TRIED TO JUSTIFY HAMAS' CRIMES, NOR CAN I JUSTIFY GENOCIDE IN GAZA.

ONE OF THE JEWISH SPEAKERS THAT WEEK TOLD ME OUTSIDE, THIS IS A WAR BETWEEN GOOD AND EVIL.

WE ARE GOOD, AND PALESTINIANS ARE EVIL UNQUOTE.

A SLUR WAS YELLED AT ME.

CEASEFIRE SUPPORTERS RECOGNIZE IT TAKES COURAGE TO SPEAK FOR PEACE.

IF ANYTHING, PALESTINIANS DON'T DESERVE HUMAN RIGHTS.

THAT'S WHAT LYNCH MOBS THOUGHT OF.

BLACKS AND WHAT NAZIS THOUGHT OF JEWS ANTI-SEMITISM AND ANTI-ARAB HATE ARE REAL AND THEY'RE WRONG.

CEASEFIRE DOESN'T BREED HATE, BUT CRUELTY AND VIOLENCE DO.

I'M KEEPING MY PLEDGE TO ANN FRANK TO STAND AGAINST GENOCIDE.

COUNCILWOMAN, WE JUST DISAGREE ABOUT WHAT LEADS TO THE PEACE AND SAFETY.

I WISH FOR ALL HUMANKIND, AND I'M SAD YOU CAN'T SEE THAT.

THANK YOU, LUIGI.

PETRI DOVE SHOULD BE FOLLOWED BY JODY JOHNSON.

UH, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MR. MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC SERVICE, UM, UH, WITH A HEAVY HEART.

I STAND HERE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY BY THE COUNT OF, UM, AS A PALESTINIAN AMERICAN ON MY MOTHER'S SIDE.

BY THE COUNT, WE ARE KEEPING COUNT.

WE'VE HAD AN OCTOBER 7TH EVERY FOUR DAYS, UH, FOR THREE MONTHS.

UM, THAT'S HOW IT FEELS.

AND THAT'S, UM, SO WHY IS IT RELEVANT HERE? THIS IS A LOCAL TOWN HALL.

IT'S THE LIFEBLOOD OF DEMOCRACY, THE PULSE OF PUBLIC SENTIMENT.

THERE'S BEEN AN UPTICK IN LOCAL, STATE AND NATIONAL ANTI-ARAB AND ANTI PALESTINIAN SENTIMENT.

I WON'T GO INTO IT.

UH, AS WAS JUST SAID, IT IS JUST AS BAD AS ANTI-JEWISH SENTIMENT.

BOTH ARE ADDRESSED IN THE PROPOSED CEASEFIRE RESOLUTION.

PETALUMA DESIRES TO STAND UNITED AGAINST HATE.

I FEAR WE ARE FAILING THE TEST AS WE ALLOW HESITATION TO STOP TO, TO, TO GET IN THE WAY OF STOPPING VIOLENCE AGAINST PALESTINIANS OVER THERE.

AND IT MAKES US HERE FEEL LIKE, UH, WE MATTER LESS.

MEANS THEY CANNOT TAKE $6 TO $10 MORE A MONTH PER ADDRESS, WHICH IN THIS CASE, YOUNGSTOWN EQUATES TO $518 PER MONTH.

THANK YOU, JODY JOHNSON, TO BE FOLLOWED BY KAY POLAND, MAYOR CITY COUNCIL CITY STAFF, WE COME HERE TONIGHT.

ON BEHALF OF 585 SENIOR CITIZENS LIVING IN PETALUMA MOBILE HOME SENIOR PARKS, WE SEEK TO JUST PUT ON THE PUBLIC RECORD WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THESE LATEST LAWSUITS.

WE STARTED WITH REVISIONS AND PROTECTIONS FOR ALL MOBILE PARK RESIDENTS IN PETALUMA.

AND SINCE JULY, WE HAVE HAD EVERY IMAGINABLE RETALIATION DONE TO US.

NOW WE ARE ALSO FA NOW YOU ARE ALSO FACING THESE RETALIATIONS THE GUISE THAT ALL THIS LITIGATION AGAINST US, AGAINST YOU IS BECAUSE WE HAVE TAKEN AWAY THEIR ABILITY TO RUN THE PARK AND WOULD REQUIRE THEM TO SHUT DOWN.

DOESN'T PASS ANY SMELL.

TEST.

CPI CAME IN AT 2.9% FOR THIS YEAR WITH THE REVISED ORDINANCE AT 70% OF CPI.

THE ONLY DIFFERENCE OUR PARK OWNERS AND OTHER SIX MOBILE PARK OWNERS AND PETALUMA ARE NOT ABLE TO TAKE IS 0.009% ON AVERAGE.

THIS

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SO I ESTIMATE THEY HAVE SPENT WITH ARBITRATION AND TWO LAWSUITS ABOUT 600,000 IN LEGAL FEES AGAINST A POTENTIAL LOSS OF NOT TAKING $518 A MONTH.

WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT PICTURE? THEY STATE THAT IF THEY CAN'T MAKE IT AN ALL AGE PARK, WHICH THEY ALREADY ILLEGALLY DID, THAT THEY MAY HAVE TO CLOSE.

PROBLEM WITH THAT STATEMENT IS THAT ALL AGE OR SENIORS PAY THE SAME REVISED RENT, STABILIZATION, GROUND RENT AS WE ARE LITERALLY 100% OCCUPIED AND HAVE BEEN, THERE IS ALWAYS A SCENE.

YOUR TIME IS UP.

UM, RAY POLAND SHOULD BE FOLLOWED BY CHRIS PARKER.

GOOD EVENING.

I'M GOING TO CONTINUE.

JODI'S, UH, MESSAGE.

THIS NEWEST LAWSUIT TO REMOVE THE SENIOR PARK OVERLAY IS IN DIRECT RETALIATION BECAUSE THEY WERE BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO DISOBEYING THE OVERLAY AND HAD TILL JANUARY 7TH TO COMPLY.

LAWSUIT WAS FILED ON JA ON JANUARY 12TH.

WE HAVE DIVERSITY IN YOUNGSTOWN, AND I REMIND EVERYONE WE DON'T LEASE THE LAND.

THEY DO.

THEY CHOOSE THE RESIDENCE, THEY APPROVE OR ARE SENT IN FROM RESIDENTS SELLING THEIR OWN MOBILE HOMES.

LET'S TALK TRUTHS.

LET'S TALK ELDER ABUSE AND RETALIATIONS.

LET'S TALK ABOUT PARK OWNERS DISOBEYING LAWS.

LET'S TALK ABOUT SENIOR CITIZENS OBEYING THE LAWS.

THREE PILLARS.

GOAL WAS AND IS TO REMOVE SENIOR CITIZENS WHO ARE A PROTECTED CLASS.

THREE PILLARS GOAL WAS, AND IS TO REMOVE ALL PROTECTIONS FOR SENIOR MOBILE HOME PARK RESIDENT OWNERS.

WHAT HAPPENED HERE IS THAT THE CITY OF PETALUMA SOUGHT TO PROTECT SENIOR CITIZENS IN THIS BEAUTIFUL CITY BASED ON FACTS AND NOT THE FICTION THAT PARK OWNERS BROUGHT FORTH.

SENIOR PARK OVERLAY MUST REMAIN THE CURRENT ORDINANCE AND NOT BE USED AS A TOOL TO PROMOTE MORE INVESTORS TO PUSH, UH, ASIDE PROJECTIONS, EXCUSE ME, PROTECTIONS TO GENERATE LARGE AMOUNTS OF INCOME OFF THE BACKS OF MOBILE HOME RESIDENTS WHO OWN THEIR OWN MOBILE HOMES.

THANK YOU CHRIS PARKER, TO BE FOLLOWED BY SALLY LATCH.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS CHRIS PARKER.

I'M A RESIDENT OF, UH, YOUNGSTOWN MOBILE HOME PARK.

I'D LIKE TO THANK THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THEIR SOLID SUPPORT FOR THE UPDATING THE, UH, UPDATING THE RESIDENTIAL, THE, UH, RESIDE RENT STABILIZATION ORDINANCE, AND THE SENIOR PARK OVERLAY.

IT'S BEEN SAID THAT NO GOOD DEED EVER GOES UNPUNISHED.

AND, UH, I WON'T COMMENT ANY FURTHER ON THAT EXCEPT TO SAY THAT THE ISSUE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS OBVIOUSLY MORE THAN A LOCAL ISSUE.

IT'S A STATEWIDE AND A NATIONAL ISSUE BY NOW.

AND PETALUMA, BY ITS ACTIONS HAVE PUT THEMSELVES, HAS PUT THE CITY IN THE FOREFRONT OF THIS STRUGGLE.

SALLY LATCH TO BE FOLLOWED BY MARY BETH LELAND.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

ONE PART OF OUR JEWISH COMMUNITY, AND I'M A MEMBER OF THE JEWISH COMMUNITY, UM, DOES NOT WANT A CEASEFIRE SAYING IT WILL, UH, BRING HATRED AND VIOLENCE TO JEWS AND TO ISRAEL.

THIS IS TO SAY THAT TO STOP THE KILLING OF PALESTINIANS, IT'S A CAUSE FOR HATRED AND ANTISEMITISM HURTING JEWS AND ISRAEL.

IN OTHER WORDS, A WAY TO MAKE FRIENDS IS TO CONTINUE THE SLAUGHTER.

OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS ABSURD.

KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE DOES NOT MAKE FRIENDS, NOR DOES IT STOP ANTISEMITISM OR ANY HATRED.

IN FACT, IN THIS CASE, IT CAN AND DOES INCREASE ANTISEMITISM, STOP THE KILLING, SUPPORT A CEASEFIRE.

NOT ONLY WILL IT SAVES LIVES, BUT IT WILL ADD TO THE RESPECT AND PRESTIGE OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

IF IT STANDS UP FOR WHAT IS JUST AND HUMANE.

LET'S HAVE IT CEASEFIRE NOW.

THANK YOU MARY BETH LELAND TO BE FOLLOWED BY DAVE DEN, CITY COUNCIL.

MEMBERS RECENTLY EXPRESSED WHY THEY FELT A CEASEFIRE RESOLUTION HAD NOT BEEN PASSED.

AND WHILE I DIDN'T AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT WAS STATED, FOR THE MOST PART, IT WAS DONE WITH RESPECT TO COMPASSION, CLARITY, AND CONCERN

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FOR UNITING PETALUMA.

FOR THAT, I'M GRATEFUL BECAUSE WE WON'T ALWAYS AGREE ON EVERYTHING, BUT AT LEAST WE CAN LISTEN TO EACH OTHER AND CONSIDER EACH OTHER'S POSITIONS.

ONE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, HOWEVER, STATED THAT QUOTE, WHEN PEOPLE SAY THEY WANT A CEASEFIRE, WHAT THEY ARE REALLY SAYING IS THAT THEY WANT TO HAVE A CEASEFIRE SO HAMAS CAN GET STRONGER.

END QUOTE.

THIS STATEMENT IS NOT ONLY UNTRUE, BUT IT'S HOSTILE, INSULTING, AND INCREDIBLY DIVISIVE.

IT INCREASES THE DIFFICULTY OF BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER.

WHEN ONE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER STATES THAT EVERY ONE OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS WHO DOES NOT BELIEVE IN A LONG CAMPAIGN OF MASS KILLING IS A TERRORIST SUPPORTER BECAUSE IT WAS ENTERED INTO PUBLIC RECORD THAT ANYONE WHO IS FOR A CEASEFIRE IS PRO HAMAS.

I AM HERE TONIGHT TO ENTER INTO PUBLIC RECORD THAT I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF KIDNAPPING, MURDER, AND ONGOING WAR.

AND I CAN'T BELIEVE I HAVE TO SAY THAT, BUT IT WAS AN ACCUSATION THAT WAS PUT ON ME NO LESS BY SOMEONE I CAMPAIGNED FOR.

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW THE REST OF CITY COUNCIL FEELS ABOUT THIS ACCUSATION.

DO YOU THINK THAT YOUR CONSTITUENTS WANT THE, WHO WANT THE END OF MASS KILLINGS, WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO SEE JEWISH PEOPLE AND ISRAEL RAPED, KIDNAPPED, AND MURDERED? AND IF NOT, PLEASE PUBLICLY STATE YOUR OBJECTION TO THIS ACCUSATION.

IF THE CITY COUNCIL CANNOT SEPARATE ITSELF FROM THIS TYPE OF STATEMENT, I DON'T BELIEVE YOU WILL BE ABLE TO BUILD ANY UNITY AROUND THIS ISSUE.

THANK YOU DAVE ALDEN TO BE FOLLOWED BY TIM PORTUS.

GOOD EVENING.

I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF PETALUMA URBAN CHAT.

HOPEFULLY MANY OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL FIRM, DAVID BAKER, ARCHITECT, KNOWN FOR THEIR CREATIVE AND INNOVATIVE APPROACHES TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING, CREATING PUBLIC SPACES THAT DO A MARVELOUS JOB OF CREATING COMMUNITY.

IN LATE, UH, 2022, THE FIRM COLLECTIVELY RELEASED A BOOK CALLED NINE WAYS TO MAKE HOUSING FOR PEOPLE.

THROUGH THE PERSISTENT EFFORTS OF VERONICA OLSON, THEY HAVE AGREED TO COME TO PETALUMA ON MARCH 13TH.

IT'S WEDNESDAY, MARCH 13TH TO PUT ON A NO BEFORE YOU GROW FORUM.

REGARDING THE NINE LESSONS IN THEIR BOOK, UH, THE MEETING WILL CONVENE AT SEVEN O'CLOCK.

WE CAN'T QUITE CONFIRM A LOCATION.

WE'RE ONE SIGNATURE AWAY FROM HAVING THAT.

WE'LL BE BACK IN THREE WEEKS TO TELL YOU THAT.

BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, PLEASE PUT THAT DATE ON YOUR CALENDAR.

THANK YOU, TIM PORTUS TO BE FOLLOWED BY, UM, ROD ALATORRE.

HELLO, FOLKS.

I WILL SAY UP FRONT, I AM PROUD OF THIS COUNCIL.

YOU HAVE DONE THINGS THAT WERE SEEMINGLY IMPOSSIBLE.

YOU HAVE ATTACKED THE MONSTER.

YOU BEAT THE MONSTER BACK DOWN, AND I THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I WILL SUPPORT ANY OF YOU AT ANY TIME, ANY WAY I CAN.

UH, I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT TOO.

AND THOSE OF US, WE ALL REALLY THANK YOU.

AND THE ANIMAL THAT YOU HAVE FOUGHT, HE HASN'T QUIT.

HE'S JUST CHANGED.

HE'S MOVED.

I WOULD LOVE TO BE ANY PART OF ANY KIND OF FORWARD MOTION TO OTHER CITIES, TO OTHER CITY COUNCILS TO HELP THEM WAKE UP SO THAT SOMEONE LIKE THIS FELLOW THAT WAS AT THE FIRST ARBITRATION ACTUALLY SAID, I LOOKED FOR PETALUMA BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T CHANGED THEIR ELDERLY RULES.

I WANT NO ONE ELSE TO COME ACROSS THAT ON NOBODY.

IF THERE WAS ANYTHING I CAN DO, PLEASE INCLUDE ME.

LET ME KNOW.

TELL ME I WILL DO IT.

I'LL GO, I'LL TALK, I'LL CALL TO ANYBODY.

ANY CHANCE I GET TO MOVE THIS FORWARD WITH YOU, YOU HAVE BEGUN A GREAT THING.

ROD ELLA TORE TO BE FOLLOWED BY DANIEL LYNCH.

I JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOU ALL FOR THE, UM, THINGS THAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING WITH THE RENT CONTROL FOR OUR MANUFACTURED HOME PARKS OR SENIOR PARKS.

IT'S, IT'S, IT'S INCREDIBLE.

UH, I FELT REALLY ALONE AND SCARED.

UH, BUT WHAT WE'VE, YOU'VE DONE IN, IN HELPING US BE A MORE ASSERTIVE, BE A MORE, UH, KNOWING WHAT THE RULES ARE, KNOWING WHAT THE LAW IS, GIVING US ABILITIES TO FIGHT BACK.

I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

I APPRECIATE YOU ALL FOR TAKING CARE OF US.

PLEASE CONTINUE.

AGAIN, I I'LL ALSO DO THE BEST I CAN TO BE A CRUSADER WITH THIS ALSO.

SO, AGAIN, I WANTED TO THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR YOUR WORK AND YOUR PATIENCE AND YOUR KINDNESS.

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UH, DANIEL LYNCH TO BE FOLLOWED BY JAMIE BLOOM.

HELLO.

I AM HERE TODAY TO TRY AND ADDRESS THIS SITUATION WITH HOUSING.

I'VE LIVED HERE FOR 50 YEARS ALL MY LIFE.

AND, UM, I'M TRYING TO GET SOME OF THESE MATTERS CLEARED UP BECAUSE THERE'S NO PLACE FOR ME TO STAY AT MARY ISAAC'S THERE.

THERE'S NO BED, BED SPACES.

AND, UM, I'M TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF MY END OF WHAT I COULD DO HERE.

AND I'M TRYING TO BETTER MY LIFE.

AND I, I FEEL LIKE I KEEP GETTING HARASSED BY THE POLICE.

AND, UM, I HAVEN'T BEEN ARRESTED RECENTLY BECAUSE OF WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT THIS HAS HAPPENED TO ME IN THE PAST.

I, I FEEL LIKE I GET HUNTED LIKE A NATIVE, WHICH I AM, EXCEPT THE TWO ALL MY LIFE.

AND FOR ANYONE THAT HAS A LEGITIMATE REASON TO TELL ME WHY I SHOULD HAVE TO LEISURE HER.

I DON'T THINK THERE IS ONE.

YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY, I'VE BEEN HOMELESS FOR 20 YEARS AND I'M TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF IT NOW.

SO WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT A BETTER SOLUTION TO THE HOME HOMELESS SITUATION HERE IN HOUSING.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY.

I HAD MORE TO SAY.

I MEAN, I WRITTEN IT DOWN, BUT 90 SECONDS ISN'T GONNA BE ABLE TO COVER THE TIME.

SO I'M LOOKING FOR SUGGESTIONS OR I HAVE BEEN PUT, IF ANYONE HAS THE TIME TO LISTEN TO IT, THEN TALK TO ME OR LET ME KNOW WHAT IT IS THAT I CAN DO.

IT IS TO TRY TO HELP THE SITUATION.

JAMIE BLOOM TO BE FOLLOWED BY MARSHA HARRIS.

UH, GOOD EVENING MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

UH, THE FOLLOWING IS QUOTED FROM DAVID RABBIT'S STATEMENT AT THE JANUARY 23RD BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING.

WE CAN CERTAINLY FEEL THE PASSION IN THE ROOM AND APPRECIATE THE DEPTH OF EMOTIONS AND OPINIONS SURROUNDING THE TOPIC.

THEY'RE VALID AND WARRANTED.

THE TERROR, VIOLENCE AND TRAUMA ENDURED BY PALESTINIANS AND ISRAELIS SINCE OCTOBER 7TH IS UNFATHOMABLE.

THE HUMAN HUMANITARIAN EMERGENCY IN GAIA IS HORRIFIC WITH THE UN CALLING IT APO.

APO APOCALYPTIC.

MY HEART GOES OUT TO MANY SONOMA COUNTY RESIDENTS, BOTH JEWISH AND MUSLIM, WITH PERSONAL AND FAMILIAL CONNECTIONS TO THE REGION.

THE LAST THING THIS BODY WANTS TO DO IS INFLAME TENSIONS BETWEEN COMMUNITIES AND INCREASE ANXIETY, STRESS, OR THREATS OF VIOLENCE.

WE DO NOT WANT TO DIVIDE OR POLARIZE THE COMMUNITY.

THE BOARD'S FOCUS HAS ALWAYS BEEN ON BUILDING BRIDGES WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY AND PROMOTING EMPATHY, UNDERSTANDING, AND SUPPORT FOR ALL RESIDENTS.

THAT IS OUR FOCUS.

FOR ALL THESE REASONS, THE BOARD WILL STAND BY OUR EXISTING RESOLUTIONS, CONDEMNING HATRED AND VIOLENCE AND CALLING FOR PEACE RATHER THAN CALLING FOR A NEW RESOLUTION.

THAT WHILE WELL-INTENTIONED HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BE DIVISIVE AND COUNTERPRODUCTIVE TO BRING THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER.

I THINK MR. MAYOR, WE, GIVEN THE TIME, WE ARE GOING TO JUMP TO AND, UM, JUST JUMP STRAIGHT TO, UH, DAVID, IF THAT'S OKAY.

UM, I HAVE, UM, I, I I WILL ALLOW THAT MARSH IF MARSHA WILL ALLOW THAT.

MARSHA HARRIS IS THE NEXT SPEAKER.

SHE'LL JUST GO AFTER ME IF THAT'S, I BELIEVE WE'RE TALKING.

DAVID SA YES, THANK YOU.

PLEASE CONTINUE.

SORRY.

UM, THIS BUILDING BRIDGES SENTIMENT, UH, THAT, UH, UH, CHAIRMAN, UH, RABBIT MENTIONED WAS ECHOED RECENTLY BY SACRAMENTO'S MAYOR.

WHEN HE REJECTED THE CALL FOR A CEASEFIRE RESOLUTION, HE STATED, IN PART, OUR INTERFAITH COMMUNITIES ARE NOT TALKING TO ONE ANOTHER.

THEY ARE TOO ANGRY, DISTRUSTFUL, AND HURT TO REACH ACROSS THE DIVIDE.

EVEN IF THE DIVIDE IS UNDERSTANDABLE, WE MUST AT LEAST TRY TO TALK AND MODEL THE BEHAVIOR WE WANT TO SEE EVERYWHERE.

THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE SACRAMENTO WAY.

UH, WE BELIEVE THE COUNCIL WILL BE PROUD TO HEAR THAT THIS HAS BEEN AND REMAINS THE PETALUMA WAY AS WELL.

THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL BUILDING BRIDGES MEETINGS BETWEEN THE CEASEFIRE RESOLUTION GROUP AND THE OPPOSED TO CEASEFIRE RESOLUTION GROUP, INCLUDING ONE THIS PAST FRIDAY, ANOTHER SCHEDULED FOR NEXT FRIDAY.

WHILE THESE MEETINGS HAVE SUGGESTED THAT THE LIKELIHOOD IS LOW, THAT THE GROUPS WILL BE ABLE TO COME TO AN AGREED UPON SUGGESTED RESOLUTION, THE MEETINGS HAVE ALSO INVOLVED CONSTRUCTIVE AND RESPECTFUL DIALOGUE AROUND THE KEY ISSUES.

THE MEETINGS HAVE RESULTED IN A DEEPER UNDERSTANDING OF FIRMLY AND SINCERELY HELD CONTRASTING BELIEFS.

THE MEETINGS HAVE ALSO RESULTED IN SOME SURPRISING AGREEMENT.

MOST IMPORTANTLY, THROUGH THESE MEETINGS, WE HAVE GOTTEN TO KNOW MANY OF THOSE WHO ARE OPPOSING US TONIGHT, NOT AS OTHER, BUT AS NEIGHBOR MEETINGS BRING US TOGETHER, RESOLUTIONS WILL DIVIDE US.

YOU MARCIA HARRIS TO BE FOLLOWED BY STUART, UH, NUSBAUM, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK

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FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA THANK THE COUNCIL FOR ADDRESSING ALL OF THE PETALUMA ISSUES THAT ARE CONCERNING PETALUMA.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, AS FAR AS A RESOLUTION, I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS BODY MAKING ONE, I DO NOT BELIEVE IT'S A NEAR JURISDICTION TO ADDRESS A FOREIGN COUNTRY OR A FOREIGN ENTITY'S, UM, POWER.

AND, UM, I APPRECIATE YOU PAYING ATTENTION TO THE ISSUES THAT, UM, PLAGUE PETALUMA AND NOT THE MIDDLE EAST.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU, STUART.

UH, NISENBAUM IS OUR LAST SPEAKER OF THE EVENING.

UH, I WAS IN ISRAEL ON OCTOBER 3RD.

I STAYED, STAYED THERE, UH, TRIED TO GET OUT OF ISRAEL, UH, FOR ABOUT 10 DAYS AFTER THAT, UH, FOR THE FOUR DAYS THAT I WAS THERE BEFORE THE WAR BROKE OUT.

WE WERE WITH A GUIDE AND WE WERE TRAVELING THROUGH ISRAEL.

AND UNANIMOUSLY FOUND, UH, AT LEAST THIS GUIDE WAS REFERRING TO THE PALESTINIANS AS HIS COUSINS AND WHOEVER WE SPOKE TO, THEY WERE IN FAVOR OF SOME PEACEFUL RESOLUTION, AND THEY WERE AGAINST THE NETANYAHU GOVERNMENT.

BUT OCTOBER 7TH CHANGED ALL THAT.

I SAW A COMPLETE TURNAROUND IN THE WAY THE ISRAELIS WERE FEELING ABOUT, UH, THEIR ONCE COUSINS.

UH, WE GOT TO SEE ON TV SOME ATROCIOUS, UH, CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY.

UH, WE GOT TO HEAR SOME HAMAS MOSS, UM, OFFICIALS SAY THAT REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT'S 1, 2, 3, OR A MILLION OCTOBER 7TH, THEY WOULDN'T REST UNTIL ISRAEL WAS GONE.

UH, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO, TO FATHOM THAT THERE CAN BE A PEACEFUL RESOLUTION WHEN ONE SIDE IS SO AGAINST, UH, PEACE.

COUNCIL TO HAVE, UH, THEIR COMMENTS FOR THE EVENING TO, UH, FILL US IN ON THE LIAISON APPOINTMENTS AND OTHER, UH, COMMUNITY ACTIVITIES THEY'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN.

AND THAT'S, UH, OUR LAST SPEAKER AND WE CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THE EVENING THERE.

I'M GONNA BRING IT BACK UP TO

[COUNCIL COMMENT]

AND I'D LIKE TO START WITH COUNCIL MEMBER THIS EVENING.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

UH, I HAD MY, UH, FIRST MEETING AS, UH, LIAISON TO THE LIBRARY, UH, COMMISSION, UM, UM, LAST WEEK.

AND, UM, UM, WAS, UM, UM, MADE A DECISION TO ATTEND THE COMIC-CON, WHICH, UH, THE LIBRARY HAS A BIG PART IN.

AND, UH, I HAD A, UH, CARICATURE DONE OF ME.

UH, I WOULDN'T COME UP HERE JUST TO LOOK AT IT, BUT, UH, UM, IT, IT, IT, IT DOESN'T MAKE ME LOOK ANY WORSE THAN THE ONE I HAD AT DISNEYLAND IN 1955.

UM, SECONDLY, UH, WE ARE, UH, MAKING SOME, UH, BIG DECISIONS OVER THE NEXT FEW WEEKS IN THE, UH, CON, UH, WHAT USED TO BE THE CONTINUUM OF CARE, THE SONOMA COUNTY HOMELESS COALITION, UH, TO, UH, UM, SPREAD AROUND, UH, SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS IN, UH, HOMELESS FUNDS.

AND, UH, ON THE ONE HAND, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO DOING THAT ON THE OTHER, IT'S GONNA BE, UH, AS DIFFICULT AS ANY DECISION WE MAKE HERE IN TERMS OF HAVING PROBABLY 25% OF THE MONEY THAT'S BEING REQUESTED TO DISTRIBUTE AND PICK WINNERS AND LOSERS.

UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MAYOR.

OUR DRAINS AND KEEPING OUR ROADWAYS AND EVERYTHING SAFE WHILE WE WERE TRYING TO MANEUVER THAT STORM LAST WEEKEND.

COUNCIL MEMBER NOW.

WELL, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

UM, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

UM, I, UM, AM HAPPY TO SAY THAT THE PARKS AND REC HAD A, A PUBLIC DESIGN INPUT FOR THE KENWORTH PARK OVER THE WEEKEND.

AND EVEN WITH THE STORM, THEY HAD A LOT OF PUBLIC PARTICIPATE IN WHAT THEY WANNA SEE IN THE FUTURE AT THAT LOCATION.

AND FOR THE RECREATIONAL NEEDS OF PETALUMA.

ALSO, THINKING AHEAD TO SPRING AND SUMMER PARKS AND RECS HAS COME OUT WITH THEIR ACTIVITY GUIDE.

YOU CAN, IF YOU DIDN'T GET LAST WEEK'S SGAS COURIER, YOU CAN GET THEM AT THE KC.

AND I BELIEVE ALSO THE LIBRARY HAS THEM.

SO, UM, MY AIRPORT LIAISON, I'M HAPPY TO SAY THAT TAXIWAY A AND B IS, UM, GETTING A, UM, A, A A MAKEOVER.

AND, UM, IT'S COMING UP THIS NEXT YEAR.

ALL THE DESIGNS HAVE BEEN APPROVED, AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO LOOK FORWARD TO.

AND THEY ARE VERY HAPPY THAT THE PUBLIC WORKS AND POLICE AND FIRE WERE OUT THERE DURING THE STORM CLEARING OUR,

[00:40:01]

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

MR. MAYOR.

SO, THE, UM, WATER ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO THE, UH, SONOMA COUNTY WATER AGENCY MET THIS MORNING IN SANTA ROSA.

AS ONE MIGHT EXPECT, THE RESERVOIRS ARE DOING QUITE WELL RIGHT NOW.

UM, AS I'VE REPORTED BEFORE, LAKE SONOMA'S WATER SUPPLY POOL IS FULL AT 245,000 ACRE FEET OF STORAGE.

AND AS OF THIS AFTERNOON, LAKE SONOMA HELD ABOUT 290,000 ACRE FEET.

UM, SO THEY'LL BE RELEASING SOME OF THAT IN THE COMING WEEKS AS, UH, RUSSIAN RIVER WATER LEVELS GO DOWN TO CREATE ROOM FOR THE NEXT STORMS. THE OTHER INTERESTING THING THAT CAME UP THERE WAS KIND OF A PRELIMINARY DISCUSSION ON, UH, THE AGENCY'S RATE SETTING FOR THE COMING YEAR.

AND, UH, I BELIEVE THE COUNCIL'S AWARE THAT THE RESTRUCTURED AGREEMENT, UH, CONTAINS A FORMULA THAT SPECIFIES THAT, UM, THE AMOUNT OF WATER SALES IS, WOULD BE THE LOWER OF THE MOST RECENT 12 MONTHS, UH, WATER SALES OR THE THREE YEAR AVERAGE.

UM, THE AGENCY ACTUALLY IS PROPOSING TO USE THE HIGHER OF THE TWO THIS YEAR.

THE THREE YEAR AVERAGE IS ABOUT 42,800 ACRE FEET OF SALES.

UH, THE ONE YEAR IS 40,800 FEET OF SALES.

AND THE, THE WAC AGREED WITH THAT TODAY.

AND THAT WILL MEAN THAT THE RATE INCREASE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO WILL BE ABOUT 4% LESS THAN WHAT OTHERWISE WOULD'VE BEEN.

IT'S STILL GONNA BE SIGNIFICANT, BUT IT'LL BE 4% LESS.

SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR TODAY.

THANKS FOR THE VERY GOOD NEWS.

COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLE.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

I HAVE HAD A FEW DIFFERENT, UH, LIAISON APPOINTMENTS.

UM, I HAD, UM, THE BAY AREA AIR QUALITY MANAGEMENT DISTRICT ON WEDNESDAY.

IT WAS OUR ANNUAL SPECIAL, UM, SPECIAL MEETING, UM, MEETING WHERE WE HEARD FROM SEVERAL DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS, BUT, UM, MOST NOTABLY FOR, OR I THINK EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM WAS HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THEMSELVES FROM THE AB SIX 17 COMMUNITIES, WHICH ARE THE, UM, LIKE THE, THE MOST DISPROPORTIONATELY POLLUTED COMMUNITIES AROUND THE BAY AREA.

WE'RE TALKING HUNTERS POINT, EAST OAKLAND, WEST OAKLAND, AND, UM, RICHMOND.

UM, I ALSO HAD A SONOMA CLEAN POWER BOARD MEETING, UM, WHERE WE, UH, WISHED, UM, BOARD CHAIR DEB FUDGE, UH, WELL, AND THANKED HER FOR HER MANY YEARS OF SERVICE TO DO SON CLEAN POWER.

SHE'S STILL ON THE BOARD, BUT NO LONGER THE CHAIR.

UM, UH, BOARD MEMBER MELANIE BAGBY IS NO LONGER ON THE BOARD.

WE WISHED HER WELL.

UM, AND I WAS APPOINTED VICE CHAIR OF THE, OF SONOMA CLEAN POWER AUTHORITY, UM, WITH, UH, SUPERVISOR LINDA HOPKINS, UM, BEING APPOINTED CHAIR.

UM, OVER THE WEEKEND I ATTENDED THE KENNELWORTH PARK COMMUNITY MEETING, UM, AND WAS REALLY, UM, IMPRESSED AND INSPIRED WITH THE, THE LEVEL OF COMMUNITY SUPPORT.

UM, AND JUST, YOU KNOW, THE WAY WE WERE GETTING PEOPLE OUT THERE AND, AND, AND ENGAGING WITH THEM WAS REALLY, REALLY NOVEL.

UM, AND THEN I WANNA THANK, UH, YOU, MR. MAYOR FOR, UH, PUTTING TOGETHER A TOWN HALL WITH OUR ASSEMBLY MEMBER, DAN MCC CONNOLLY, TO TALK ABOUT, UM, SOME OF HIS PIECES OF LEGISLATION THIS YEAR.

AND THEN ALSO ON, UM, UH, SATURDAY I ATTENDED THE KICKOFF FOR THE MEASURE B AND MEASURE E, UM, PARCEL TAXES, UH, FOR, UM, THE PETA CITY SCHOOLS IS RUNNING.

ONE OF THEM IS FOR, UH, FUNDING SALARIES, UM, AT HIGH SCHOOL AND MIDDLE SCHOOL.

AND THE OTHER ONE IS FOR FUNDING SALARIES AT ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.

UM, AND SO I HIGHLY RECOMMEND EVERYBODY LOOK INTO THAT.

THERE'S, UM, SOME PRETTY STARK FUNDING, FUNDING ISSUES AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT, UM, ARE WORTH LOOKING INTO THAT I'M GOING INTO IN MY 30 SECONDS.

SO THANK YOU.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER CATER THOMPSON.

I HAD MY FIRST, UM, GROUNDWATER, UH, MEETING, AND I HAVE A LOT OF READING TO CATCH UP.

THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON, SUCH AS, YOU KNOW, VMT, SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL, VISION ZERO, UM, SAFE STREETS, UM, WILL CONTINUE ON BECAUSE THERE'S FUNDING FOR THAT.

UM, BUT IT WAS REALLY INTERESTING AND I HAD FOLLOWED IT, SO I WAS, UM, PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH THE TOPIC OF THE DAY, BUT THERE'S STILL A LOT TO LEARN.

SO I'LL BE HAVING A ZOOM WITH, UM, ACTUALLY SANDY POTTER TO UPDATE ME.

I WAS AT MY SCTA MEETING TODAY, AND MELANIE BAGBY, UM, WAS ELECTED VICE, UM, CHAIR AND SUPERVISOR.

UM, HOPKINS IS THE CHAIR OF SCTA THIS YEAR.

WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, IN 2025, THERE'S DEFINITELY GONNA BE A STATE DEFICIT AND REDUCTION TO SOME PROGRAMS. BUT THE PROGRAMS

[00:45:01]

WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE ACCIDENT AT PINE VIEW.

AND, UM, WE'RE, I'M HOPING THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD, UM, TO SHUT DOWN THAT LEFT HAND TURN LANE BECAUSE IT'S TERRIBLY DANGEROUS.

AND THAT APPEARS TO BE WHAT'S GONNA BE HAPPENING.

WE'VE ALSO DECIDED WE WANNA MEET WITH CALTRANS BECAUSE CALTRANS HAS GOTTA UNDERSTAND WHEN THERE ARE REALLY DANGEROUS AREAS THAT WE NEED TO ACT ON THIS.

AND SO, UM, SO THAT'S REALLY GOOD, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE A A, A MEETING DIRECTLY WITH THEM SO THEY UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PROJECTS COMING FORWARD, AND CALTRANS NEVER COMES UP TO THE PLATE, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT COMES TO THE SAFETY ASPECT.

SO THAT'S GOOD NEWS, UM, FOR, UM, PINE VIEW.

BUT IT WAS A HORRIBLE ACCIDENT.

AND, YOU KNOW, A 79-YEAR-OLD PERSON DIED, AND THERE'S BEEN AT LEAST 14 ACCIDENTS ON LAKEVILLE, UM, TO HIGHWAY 37 IN THIS LAST YEAR.

AND THE NUMBER KEEPS RISING.

AND SO THAT, THAT'S VERY GOOD NEWS.

UM, TODAY I WAS AT THE MUSEUM, UM, HELPING TO SET UP FOR BLACK HISTORY MONTH, WHICH WILL BE THIS WEEKEND.

AND WHEN I WALKED OUT, I SAW A WOMAN OUT THERE AND SHE LOOKED LIKE SHE WASN'T, SHE JUST LOOKED LIKE SHE NEEDED HELP OR SOMETHING.

SO I ENDED UP TALKING TO HER.

SHE SPOKE SPANISH.

I DO NOT SPEAK SPANISH.

AND SO WE USED A TRANSLATOR, AND WHAT SHE WANTED TO FIND IS WHERE SHE COULD FIND THE ARP APPLICATION TO HELP WITH TAXES.

AND SO WE FINALLY FIGURED OUT WHERE SHE NEEDED TO GO.

I DROVE HER TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER.

UM, A STAFF MEMBER WAS ABLE TO SPEAK WITH HER, BUT THEN SOMEBODY IN A WHEELCHAIR CAME UP AND TOLD AND SPOKE SPANISH.

AND SO REALLY HELPED FACILITATE THIS.

AND SO I JUST WANNA LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT IF YOU NEED HELP WITH YOUR TAXES, YOU CAN GO TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND GET A PACKET AND YOU CAN MAKE AN APPOINTMENT.

AND, UM, AND SO THAT'S A BENEFIT AND IT'S FREE.

SO, AND YOU CAN ALSO GO TO THE SENIOR CENTER, AND THERE'S OTHER AREAS IN TOWN.

YOU CAN ALSO PICK UP THAT PACKET.

BUT THE COMMUNITY CENTER'S PRETTY CONVENIENT.

UM, THERE IS A TREE THAT TIPPED OVER ON KEOKUK STREET, AND IT'S STILL HANGING ON THE LINES, SO I'M JUST CURIOUS WHY THAT IS STILL, UM, HANGING.

UM, ALSO, AND I WANNA THANK THE YOUNGSTOWN RESIDENTS FOR, UM, JUST FOR ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE, IT'S PRETTY AMAZING.

BUT I ALSO WANNA THANK OUR CITY ASSISTANT, CITY ATTORNEY, DYLAN, UM, BRADY FOR, AND FOR WORKING REALLY HARD ON THE MOBILE HOME PARK ORDINANCE, UM, AND THIS LEGAL SUIT, BUT ALSO RICH REYNOLDS, WHO'S A LOCAL ATTORNEY WHO HAS DONE A PRO BONO WORK.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER ATTORNEYS, BUT I DON'T KNOW THEIR NAMES, SO I'M NOT GONNA SAY THEM.

BUT IT REALLY TAKES A COMMUNITY TO MAKE, UM, THINGS HAPPEN.

AND I JUST REALLY APPRECIATE, UM, ALL OF YOU.

UM, AND I THINK THAT IS IT FOR MY COMMENTS.

THANK YOU ALL.

THAT, UH, WHEN YOU RECYCLE, IT'S REALLY, IT DOESN'T HAPPEN, OR IT'S MAGIC, OR IT'S NOT, YOU SHOULD TOUR THIS PLACE.

UM, YOUR COMMENTS ON PINE VIEW ARE PARTICULARLY STRONG AND IMPORTANT ON PINE VIEW REGARDING THE LAKEVILLE.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE WORKING HARD TO HAVE TO STOP USING THE TERM ACCIDENT.

IT'S NOT AN ACCIDENT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A COLLISION, AND I THINK THAT IT'S EASY FOR US TO GET TO THAT POINT WHEN THERE'S A FATALITY INVOLVED.

AND SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S JUST HORRIBLE AND I APPRECIATE STAFF'S EFFORT AND, UM, TO GET ON THAT RIGHT AWAY, TO HAVE A SOLUTION FOR THAT RIGHT AWAY.

UM, OTHER GOOD THINGS IN THE COMMUNITY, UM, WAS ABLE TO ATTEND WITH MANY OF THE OTHER, UH, UH, COUNCIL, THE NORMALIZING SAFETY GUN VIOLENCE PREVENTION EVENT.

AND, UH, NEEDED TO PUT A BIG THANKS OUT TO OUR FORMER MAYOR THERESA BARRETT AND THE A A UW WHO HOSTED THAT AT KINESE CENTER.

THAT, UM, NUMBERS REGARDING HANDGUN, UH, FATALITIES OR GUN FATALITIES, IT ARE JUST STAGGERING AND, AND, UH, SHOCKING.

AND IT'S OFTEN RELATED TO AN OCCASION MEETS ACCESS, A DEPRESSION MEETS AVAILABILITY.

AND, UM, THAT'S WHAT, UM, THE COMMUNITY IS TRYING TO REDUCE, IS WHERE THAT OCCASION MEETS THAT AVAILABILITY.

AND I WAS, UH, I HAVE TO SHOUT OUT OUR, UH, PETALUMA PD AND ESPECIALLY OUR INTERIM CHIEF, UM, BRIAN MILLER, WHO, UH, SPOKE POWERFULLY ABOUT THE THINGS THE CITY IS HAS DONE REGARDING GUN BUYBACKS, SAFE STORAGE, UH, ORDINANCES THROUGH OUR TOWN AND TRIGGER LOCK SUPPORT IN IN TOWN.

UM, IT'S, UH, IT'S A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, BUT WE REALLY HAVE TO ADDRESS THIS COMMUNITY PROBLEM.

ALSO HAD A CHANCE WITH MUCH OF THE COUNCIL TO, UH, ATTEND.

THE OPENING OF RECOLOGY IS NEW RECYCLING CENTER.

THERE'S SOME CONCERN IN THE COMMUNITY

[00:50:01]

EVERY BIT OF EVERY DIFFERENT KIND OF, UH, PRODUCT THAT'S IN THE, IN YOUR BLUE BIN GETS SEPARATED, SORTED, BUNDLED.

AND THEY WERE TELLING US WHO THE REUS WERE, WHO OUR IN-STATE REUS WERE.

IT JUST REALLY CLEARS UP A LOT OF THE MISINFORMATION ABOUT, UM, THAT IMPORTANT CLIMATE AND INITIATIVE WE HAVE.

UH, AND, UH, I WANNA THANK, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLE FOR THE SHOUT OUT ABOUT, UH, HAVING ASSEMBLYMAN, UH, DAMON CONNOLLY IN THE HOUSE.

UH, WE HAD HIM ON OUR FIRST FRIDAY AT FIVE BICYCLE RIDE EVERY FRI FIRST FRIDAY OF THE MONTH, THERE'S A BICYCLE RIDE.

AND SINCE HE'S A BICYCLE, UM, ADVOCATE, HE WAS ABLE TO SPEAK TO CLIMATE ISSUES RELATED TO MODE SHIFT RELATING TO GET SOME OF OUR TRIPS OUTTA CARS AND REDUCE, UH, GASOLINE CONSUMPTION, THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, THEN I ALSO WANT TO ST THANK STAFF FOR THE PRO HOUSING DESIGNATION, UH, THAT WAS JUST AWARDED TO THE CITY.

UH, YOU MAY READ ABOUT IT IN THE PAPERS, BUT, UH, WE HAVE A HOUSING CRISIS.

WE'RE TRYING TO DO THINGS TO PUT PEOPLE IN HOUSES AND TO, UH, DO IT AT AN AFFORDABLE RATE WITH SO MANY OF THE CITY PROGRAMS. BUT WE WERE, UM, UM, RECEIVE RECOGNITION FOR OUR EFFORTS ON THAT.

AND WITH THAT, I'D

[CITY MANAGER COMMENT]

LIKE TO PASS IT OVER TO OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER FILLING IN TONIGHT WITH, UH, CITY MANAGER COMMENTS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND GOOD EVENING COUNCIL AND COMMUNITY.

UM, FEW THINGS TO MENTION.

FIRST, I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSCORE THE COMMENTS FROM SEVERAL COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, REFLECTING ON THE, UH, THE FATAL COLLISION AT, UH, LAKEVILLE AND PINE VIEW.

AND JUST TO EMPHASIZE THAT CITY STAFF ARE WORKING TO FINALIZE SOME OF THOSE IMMEDIATE IMPROVEMENTS.

AND I THINK THOSE LITERALLY CAN BE GOING IN WITHIN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.

SO WE'RE EXCITED TO, TO FINALIZE THOSE.

AND THEN ALSO, WE WILL CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE WITH CALTRANS, UH, IN OUR STATE PARTNERS TO GET THE LONGER TERM IMPROVEMENTS IN PLACE, AS WELL AS IMMEDIATE TERM IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THEIR RIGHT OF WAY.

AND REALLY, ANYTIME WE HAVE AN ISSUE LIKE THIS, IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE STOCK AND TO ANALYZE WHAT POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS WE COULD MAKE, UH, THAT ARE WITHIN OUR CONTROL.

SECONDLY, UH, WANTED TO JUST ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, UH, SUNDAY'S WEATHER EVENT HAD A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON OUR COMMUNITY AND THE CITY'S PUBLIC WORKS AND POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS WERE AT THE READY WITH, UH, ROUND THE CLOCK RESPONSE ACTIVITIES OR PUBLIC WORKS STAFF WERE MONITORING SATURDAY EVENING AND THROUGH THE NIGHT, AND THEN WE COMMENCED OPERATIONS SUNDAY AT ABOUT 6:00 AM.

UH, OUR EFFORTS INTENSIFIED THROUGH THE DAY, UH, THROUGH MIDNIGHT AS, UH, WE CLEARED DRAINS, REMOVED HAZARDS AND TREES, PATROLLED KNOWN TROUBLE SPOTS, AND RESPONDED TO CALLS OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT.

UPS STAFFED AN EXTRA ENGINE UNIT, UH, WITH ADDITIONAL STAFF AND EQUIPMENT FOR ANY POTENTIAL WATER RESCUE OR TREE REMOVALS OR, UH, THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT WE HAD ABOUT THREE INCHES OF RAINFALL.

IT CAUSED LOCALIZED FLOODING.

AS YOU KNOW, STONY POINT ROAD WAS CLOSED FOR A FEW HOURS, AND WE HAD A COUPLE OF SANITARY SEWER OVERFLOWS THAT WE HAD TO DEAL WITH DUE TO THE INFILTRATION OF STORM WATER INTO OUR SYSTEM.

WE EXPERIENCED WIND GUSTS OF UP TO 50 MILES PER HOUR, OBVIOUSLY CAUSING TREES AND COMMUNICATION, UH, POLES TO, TO GO DOWN.

SO JUST WANTED TO SEND SOME HEARTFELT THANKS AND APPRECIATION TO OUR TEAM, AND IT WAS A HUGE TEAM EFFORT.

UH, PUBLIC WORKS AND UTILITIES, FIRE AND POLICE DEPARTMENTS, UH, FOR THE LONG HOURS AND DEDICATED SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY THROUGH THE STORM EVENT.

AND THEN FINALLY, JUST WANTED TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT LAST WEEK OUR MEASURE U OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE MET AND WE FINALIZED THE ANNUAL REPORT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023.

SO THAT REPORT IS UP ON THE WEBSITE.

AND WILL WE, WE WILL BE SENDING OUT MORE, UH, BROAD COMMUNITY NOTIFICATION THROUGH OUR EMAIL UPDATES AS TO WHERE, UH, COMMUNITY MEMBERS CAN FIND THE INFORMATION ABOUT OUR MEASURE U SALES TAX IF THEY'D LIKE TO READ MORE ABOUT HOW THOSE DOLLARS ARE BEING SPENT ON THEIR BEHALF.

AND THAT'S IT FOR ME.

WE ARE ON TO OUR CONSENT CALENDAR FOR THE EVENING AND LOOKING UP AND DOWN THE DA NOT SEEING ANY REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN THE, UH, CONSENT CALENDAR.

I APPRECIATE THE, UH, STORM UPDATE THAT'S, UM, VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THOSE COMMITTED WORKERS OUT HELPING US THROUGH ALL THESE ISSUES.

UH, AND LET'S SEE,

[CONSENT CALENDAR]

AND I'LL ASK IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT IT.

WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY.

OH, THANK YOU.

I'LL TAKE A LITTLE PAUSE HERE WHILE, UH, FOLKS, UM, MOSEY ON OUT.

THANK YOU ALL FOR ATTENDING TONIGHT.

AND WITH THAT, I'D

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LIKE TO MOTION THAT, UM, WE GO TO THESE QUESTIONS HERE, WE'RE NO, SO LET'S GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT AND, UM, AND, UM, I'M ON TRACK WITH THAT.

I'VE OFTEN FORGET TO DO THAT ON CONSENT CALENDAR, BUT NO PUBLIC COMMENTS.

WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS.

THANK YOU, UM, CITY CLERK FOR THAT INFORMATION.

AND I'D LIKE TO PASS IT OVER TO OUR MODERATOR OR INVITE FOLKS TO SPEAK.

YEP.

MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING IN PERSON SHOULD BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARDS TO THE CLERK'S DESK IF THEY HAVE NOT ALREADY DONE SO.

SPEAKERS ARE REMINDED TO BE RESPECTFUL IN THEIR COMMENTS.

AND THAT THIS MEETING IS BEING TRANSLATED.

PLEASE PAUSE BETWEEN SENTENCES FOR TRANSLATION.

A COUNTDOWN WILL APPEAR FOR THE CONVENIENCE OF THE SPEAKER AND THE VIEWERS, AND I AM SEEING NO ONE MAKING A MOVE TO THE CITY CLERK'S DESK WITH THE CARD.

SO I WILL DECLARE PUBLIC COMMENT CLOSED ON THIS ISSUE AND BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL.

YEAH, I'D BE HAPPY TO MOVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS ONE, TWO, AND THREE.

UH, PUBLIC HEARING MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION.

I'LL SECOND.

AND, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER NOW IS THE SECOND ON THAT MOTION.

AND MAY WE HAVE A ROLL CALL? VOTE BARNACLE A AYE.

AND SO NOW MOVING ON TO,

[PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION]

ITEM FOUR IS ADOPTION OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER AND ASSIGNED STAFF TO APPLY TO THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA FOR DEPARTMENT OF OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, PERMANENT LOCAL HOUSING ALLOCATION THAT'S PROGRAMMED TO RECEIVE THE 2022 ENTITLEMENT ALLOCATION FOR THE CITY OF PETALUMA.

AND TO SUBMIT A REVISED FIVE-YEAR PLAN PROGRAM PLAN TO INCLUDE ADDITIONAL ELIGIBLE ACTIVITIES.

AND TO HELP US WITH THIS ITEM, I'D LIKE TO ASK, UH, BRIAN O OUR DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TO TAKE OVER.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AND COMMUNITY.

BRIAN O, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DE DEVELOPMENT FOR THE CITY OF PETALUMA.

UH, WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY IS A RECOMMENDATION, UH, TO ESSENTIALLY UNLOCK ENTITLED FUNDS THAT THE CITY OF PETALUMA HAVE HAS WITH THE STATE, UH, WITH THROUGH THE PERMANENT LOCAL HOUSING ALLOCATION PROGRAM, PLHA FOR SHORT.

A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.

THIS IS ONE OF A HANDFUL OF, UH, FOR NOW IN PERPETUITY, UH, FUNDS THAT THE STATE ALLOCATES TO MANY OF THE JURISDICTIONS IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

UH, AND THIS FUNDING, UH, GOES TO, UH, CRITICAL SERVICE FOR, UH, DEVELOPMENT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AS WELL AS, UH, PROVIDING SERVICE AND PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING FOR OUR HOMELESS POPULATION.

BACK IN 2021, THE STATE APPROVED PETALUMA'S FIVE YEAR ALLOCATION PLAN.

UM, IN THE FIRST THREE YEARS OF THAT FIVE YEAR PLAN, UH, WE HAVE BEEN AWARDED A TOTAL OF $786,243.

UM, ALL OF THAT, WHICH WE HAVE BANKED TO DATE, UH, SOME EXAMPLES OF ELIGIBLE FUNDING, PRE-DEVELOPMENT, DEVELOPMENT, ACQUISITION, REHAB OF LOW INCOME HOUSING, HOME OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES, AND SUPPORTIVE HOUSING AND HOMELESS SERVICES.

UH, WHEN WE INITIALLY SUBMITTED THE FIVE-YEAR PLAN, UH, IT ESSENTIALLY PART OF THE APPLICATION, UM, ASKED THE CITY, UH, WHICH ELIGIBLE USES, UM, THE CITY, UH, WAS INTENDING TO USE THE MONEY FOR.

UM, AND SO PART OF THAT IS WHY WE'RE HERE BEFORE COUNCIL TODAY AND CONDUCTING A PUBLIC HEARING.

UM, BUT PRIMARILY IT'S TO RECEIVE THE ENTITLEMENT FUND THAT WE HAVE HERE.

SO OUR ANNUAL ALLOCATION, UH, FOR THIS CURRENT CYCLE IS $161,829.

AND WHAT STAFF IS REQUESTING COUNSEL TO CONSIDER THIS EVENING IS TO SUBMIT THAT APPLICATION.

UH, THE STATE RELEASED THE, UH, NOTICE OF FUNDING AVAILABILITY IN DECEMBER OF 23.

UM, AND WE ARE, UM, IN THE WINDOW WHERE WE CAN MAKE THE REQUEST.

SO WHAT, UH, PART ONE IS TO RECEIVE THE ENTITLED FUNDS THAT I JUST IDENTIFIED.

UH, PART TWO IS ALSO, UM, A RESUBMITTAL.

AND SO WHAT WE ARE ASKING COUNSEL TO CONSIDER THIS EVENING IS A REVISED A REVISED TO THE FIVE YEAR, UM, UH, EXPENDITURE

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PLAN.

AND SO WHAT WAS NOT INCLUDED? SO WHEN WE THINK ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO, UH, THIS IS PRE PANDEMIC.

UM, A LOT OF THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY HAVE CHANGED SINCE THEN.

UM, AND SO ONE OF THE ELIGIBLE USE CATEGORIES THAT WE DID NOT, UM, INITIALLY EXPECT, UH, UH, TO, TO NEED TO CONSIDER WOULD BE, UH, IN THE REALM OF HOMELESSNESS.

AND SO WE'VE TALKED, UH, THERE'S BEEN SOME COUNCIL COMMENTS THIS EVENING RELATED TO SOME OTHER OPPORTUNITIES, UM, UH, IN ORDER FOR US TO SUPPORT OUR HOMELESS POPULATION.

UM, YOU KNOW, ONE THING THAT, UH, HAS CHANGED, I THINK, I THINK POST PANDEMIC, UM, HAS BEEN THE NEED AND SO MUCH OF OUR PROGRAMMING, UM, THIS COUNCIL HAS BEEN FRONT AND CENTER, UM, AND PRIORITIZING, I'M SIRI.

CHOOSE THE VOICE YOU'D LIKE ME TO, UH, WITH, UH, THE STRATEGIC PLAN TO END HOMELESSNESS.

AND SO, UH, WE HAVE A VERY, UH, SUBSCRIBED, UM, APPROACH AND SET OF INTERVENTIONS, UM, AND A LOT OF THOSE INTERVENTIONS, UH, REQUIRE, UH, FUNDS.

AND SO ONE OF THE REQUESTS HERE IS TO, UM, ESSENTIALLY ALLOW, UH, FUTURE FUNDS IN THIS, UH, FIVE YEAR CYCLE TO BE USED FOR HOMELESS SERVICES.

AND SO WITH THAT, MAYOR, JUST A SHORT PRESENTATION.

I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

UM, BUT BACK TO YOU.

GREAT PRESENTATION.

AND, UH, I'D LIKE TO BRING IT TO COUNCIL TO SEE IF ANYONE HAS ANY, UH, QUESTIONS.

AND I'M LOOKING DOWN THE DI AND INTO, UH, TECHNOLOGY HERE AND, UH, NOT SEEING ANY.

SO WITH NO DIRECT QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL AT THIS TIME, UH, I'D, I'D LIKE TO OPEN THE, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

AND ONCE AGAIN, I'LL ASK OUR CLERK IF WE'VE RECEIVED ANY, UM, PRIOR TO MEETING INFORMATION WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY.

PARTICULARLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

I'D LIKE TO ASK OUR MODERATOR TO READ OUR MESSAGING FOR THE EVENING.

ALL RIGHT.

MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING IN PERSON SHOULD BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARDS TO THE CLERK'S DESK IF THEY HAVE NOT ALREADY DONE SO.

SPEAKERS ARE REMINDED TO BE RESPECTFUL IN THEIR COMMENTS AND THAT THIS MEETING IS BEING TRANSLATED.

AND I DO SEE SOMEONE AT THE CARD TABLE, AND I'M, AND IT'S, UH, NOT FOR THIS ITEM, BUT I SEE NO OTHERS, UH, RUSHING UP.

SO, UM, WITH THAT, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD FOR THE EVENING AND, UM, BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL FOR ANY COMMENTS ON THIS.

I JUST WANT TO, UH, ADD I APPRECIATE STAFF'S EFFORT TO FIND EVERY, UH, NICKEL AND DOLLAR TO PUT INTO HOMELESS, UH, HOMELESSNESS AND HOUSING ISSUES.

I KNOW THAT'S A TOP PRIORITY.

UH, RIGHT BEFORE COD, WE WERE KIND OF IN A DIFFERENT SPACE, BUT REALLY EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENED SINCE COVID HAS TOSSED THE APPLE CART UPSIDE DOWN AND, AND, UH, HEIGHTENED THIS.

UM, SO, AND COUNCIL MEMBER POSE.

K, I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION SECOND THAT, SO THAT'S A MOTION BY OSA K AND A SECOND BY CATER THOMPSON.

AND MAY WE HAVE A ROLL CALL? VOTE BARNACLE.

MOVING TO ITEM FIVE, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH, STAFF.

UM, FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE MENDING THE CITY OF PETALUMA'S IMPLEMENTING ZONING ORDINANCE TO ADD A SECTION 7.120, ESTABLISHING OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR QUALIFYING RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS AND FINDING THAT THE PROJECT IS EXEMPT FROM CE QA PURSUANT TO CE QA GUIDELINES.

AND, UH, FOR THIS ITEM, I GUESS WE WILL ALSO START OFF WITH OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOP DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

BRIAN O THANK YOU MAYOR.

UH, AS STAFF IS, UH, PREPARING, AND WE'RE DOING JUST A LITTLE, UH, SHIFT HERE, UH, I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES.

UH, MAYOR, EARLIER YOU MENTIONED THE PRO HOUSING DESIGNATION THAT THE CITY RECEIVED.

UM, AND SO FOR THAT, WE'RE, WE'RE SO GRATEFUL.

UM, AND I THINK ONE OF THE BIG, UH, THINGS THAT CITIES IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, UM, NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF AND ARE, ARE IN MANY WAYS RESPONDING TO THE HOUSING CRISIS, UM, IS TO BE RESPONSIVE TO STATE LAW.

AND SO, UM, OVER THE LAST HANDFUL OF YEARS, THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF STATE LAWS, UM, THAT HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, DIVED INTO THE TOPIC OF OBJECTIVITY, UH, STREAMLINING OF HOUSING DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS,

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UM, AND SO THIS IS ONE OF OUR KEY INITIATIVES COMING OUT OF THE HOUSING ELEMENT, WHICH WE CERTIFIED WITH THE STATE MARCH OF LAST YEAR, UM, WAS TO PULL OUT SOME OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR A NUMBER OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT WILL NOT GO THROUGH A DISCRETIONARY PROCESS.

AND SO, UH, WE'RE EXCITED, UH, THIS IS, UH, A COUPLE YEARS, UM, CULMINATING TO THIS POINT.

UM, AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO SHARING WHAT WE ARE HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY, WHAT WE HEARD FROM PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, AND, UH, WHAT IS BEFORE YOU FOR CONSIDERATION.

UM, AND SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN TO STAFF.

THIS IS THE, UH, MINUTE WHEN THE COMPUTER CHANGES FROM ONE PLACE TO ANOTHER BY CONNECTING UP.

GREAT CHANGE OVER COMPLETE.

MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

UM, GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

UH, MY NAME IS ANDREW TRIP.

I'M THE PLANNING MANAGER.

JOINING ME THIS EVENING IS, UH, SENIOR PLANNER HEATHER GITZ, WHO'S WORKED VERY CLOSELY ON THE, UM, UH, OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS PROJECT.

SO THIS EVENING'S PRESENTATION WILL TAKE US THROUGH, UM, SORT OF THE UNDERPINNINGS OF THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS.

UH, THEN WE'LL LOOK SPECIFICALLY AT SOME OF THE STANDARDS AND HOW THEY WERE EVOLVED, UM, AND THEN FINISH UP WITH AN OPPORTUNITY FOR QUESTIONS.

UH, WE DO RECOGNIZE THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL QUESTIONS ASKED ABOUT THE STANDARDS AS WELL AS COMMENTS.

UH, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO INCORPORATE ALL OF OUR RESPONSES TO THOSE QUESTIONS INTO THE PRESENTATION.

HOWEVER, IF, IF WE DO MISS ONE OR TWO, DON'T HESITATE TO ASK THEM.

AS WELL AS, UH, COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS AND CONDUCTED BEST PRACTICES RESEARCH.

SO THE, UH, THE PURPOSE AND INTENT OF THE STANDARDS, WHICH ARE, ARE, UM, PROPOSED AS SECTION 7.120 OF THE IMPLEMENTING ZONING ORDINANCE.

UH, THE, THE ESSENTIAL PURPOSE IS TO ESTABLISH OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR QUALIFYING RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS.

THESE QUALIFYING RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS ARE RESPONDING TO, UM, STATE LEGISLATIVE ACTS THAT, UH, COMMUNITY DIRECTOR, UH, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR O MENTIONED SUCH AS SB THREE 30, SB 35, AB 2162, AND OTHER STATE MANDATED STREAMLINING MEASURES THAT MAY EITHER ELIMINATE THE CITY'S ABILITY TO PROVIDE DISCRETIONARY REVIEW OR LIMIT WHAT THAT DISCRETIONARY REVIEW MAY CONSIDER.

THEY WOULD ALSO SUPPLEMENT EXISTING OBJECTIVE STANDARDS THAT ARE, UM, CURRENTLY LOCATED IN THE BUILDING CODE, THE FIRE, THE FIRE CODE, UM, PUBLIC WORKS MANUALS, AS WELL AS THE GENERAL PLAN AND THE IZO.

SO THEY'RE ADDITIVE TO OUR EXISTING OBJECTIVE STANDARDS, AND THEY DO FOCUS ON DESIGN AS OPPOSED TO OTHER DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS OR PERFORMANCE OR OPERATIONAL STANDARDS.

AND WE'LL GET INTO THAT AS WELL.

SO THE INTENT IS TO ACHIEVE SATISFACTORY QUALITY DESIGN FOR INDIVIDUAL BUILDINGS AND THEIR SITES TO ENSURE THAT, UH, BUILDINGS AND SITES ARE DESIGNED APPROPRIATELY FOR THEIR INTENDED USES, AND THAT THEY ARE IN HARMONY WITH OTHER DEVELOPMENTS AND THEIR SURROUNDINGS.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE HERE AS PART OF THE PURPOSE AND INTENT THAT, UH, THE STATE'S LEGISLATIVE ACTIONS ARE, UH, SPECIFICALLY INTENDED TO ACCELERATE HOUSING PRODUCTION BY, UM, BY STREAMLINING TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF REVIEW TIME AND TO FACILITATE APPROVALS AS WELL AS TO REDUCE COST ASSOCIATED WITH PROJECTS BY INCREASING CERTAINTY AT THE LOCAL LEVEL.

SO THIS IS A, A, A PROPOSED AMENDMENT OF THE IMPLEMENTING ZONING ORDINANCE TO ADD AN ORDINANCE.

AND SO IT IS GUIDED BY CHAPTER 25 AMENDMENTS.

IT IS A CITY INITIATED AMENDMENT.

THE FINDINGS ARE CONFORMITY WITH THE GENERAL PLAN AND CON, AND THAT THE, UH, PROPOSED ORDINANCE IS CONSISTENT WITH PUBLIC NECESSITY, WELFARE, OR CONVENIENCE AND GENERAL WELFARE.

SO BRIEFLY, THE, UH, THE ORDINANCE DEVELOPMENT TIMELINE.

THE PROJECT WAS BEGUN IN 2020, UH, WITH A CONCEPTUAL, UH, PROJECT PRESENTED AT PLANNING COMMISSION STUDY SESSION.

FOLLOWING THAT STAFF, UM, CONDUCTED A SERIES OF GROUP INTERVIEWS WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPERS, UM, ARCHITECTS AND OTHER LAND DEVELOPMENT AND DESIGN PROFESSIONALS IN THE COMMUNITY,

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FROM THERE, THE PROJECT WENT BACK TO THE COMMISSION TO AFFIRM THE GOALS AND MECHANISMS, AND THE COMMISSION ALSO PROVIDED ADDITIONAL POLICY LEVEL FEEDBACK.

UM, IN 2022 AND INTO 20, EARLY 2023, THE PROJECT THEN PAUSED, UM, AS THE HOUSING ELEMENT WAS COMING FORWARD, UH, FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION.

SO WE WANTED TO BE SURE THAT THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS DIDN'T GET OUT IN FRONT OF THE HOUSING ELEMENT.

OF COURSE, IN MARCH 23, THE HOUSING ELEMENT WAS ADOPTED BY COUNCIL AND SUBSEQUENTLY CERTIFIED BY HCD.

SO WE THEN RETURNED TO THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS, UM, TO, TO, UH, RE REVISIT THEM AND BRING THEM FORWARD WITHIN THIS CONTEXT, UM, TO WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY.

THEY, UH, IN SEPTEMBER OF 2023, WE RELEASED A PUBLIC REVIEW DOCUMENT.

UM, CITYWIDE STAFF REVIEWED IT AS WELL AS STAKEHOLDER REVIEWS.

UH, AND THEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, RECEIVED AN UPDATE AND PRESENTATION IN OCTOBER, FOLLOWED BY PBAC AND TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE REVIEW IN NOVEMBER, A PLANNING COMMISSION STUDY SESSION IN NOVEMBER AS WELL.

AND THEN THAT CAME FORWARD TO PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, IN ITS CURRENT DRAFT FORM WITH SEVERAL MODIFICATIONS AS DESCRIBED IN THE STAFF REPORT, UH, FOR PLANNING COMMISSION TO RECOMMEND ADOPTION TO COUNCIL.

SO THIS IS A, UH, LIST OF THE STAKEHOLDERS WHO ARE INVOLVED.

THE, UH, I REALIZE IT'S HARD TO READ, UH, DUE TO THE FONT SIZE, BUT JUST TO REALLY HIGHLIGHT THAT, IT, IT CONSISTS OF A VARIETY OF PUBLIC AGENCY PROFESSIONALS AS WELL AS THE H AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPERS, UM, AND THEN PRIVATE SECTOR, LAND USE, DEVELOPMENT AND DESIGN PROFESSIONALS, UM, UH, THAT ESPECIALLY THAT ARE WORKING IN THE, UH, PETALUMA COMMUNITY.

AND SO THOSE LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT AND DESIGN PROFESSIONALS OFTENTIMES ARE WORKING ON MARKET RATE HOUSING PROJECTS.

AND SO THEY ARE REPRESENTING AND COULD BE CONSIDERED TO BE, UM, ECHOING THE, UH, THE CONCERNS AND GOALS OF MARKET RATE DEVELOPERS, EVEN THOUGH MARKET RATE DEVELOPERS WERE NOT SPECIFICALLY INCLUDED IN THE STAKEHOLDER GROUP.

AND THEN FINALLY, WE HAD COMMUNITY REPRESENTATIVES, UH, VERONICA OLSON REPRESENTING PETALUMA CHAT AND ON NATASHA GIULIANA REPRESENTING KO PETALUMA.

SO SOME OF THE KEY TERMS THAT WE'LL BE REFERRING TO TODAY, MINISTERIAL REVIEW, WHICH IS SIMILAR TO A BUILDING PERMIT REVIEW, WHERE WE'RE REVIEWING A PROJECT FOR COMPLIANCE WITH OBJECTIVE STANDARDS.

WE'RE NOT SEEKING TO, UM, ENHANCE OR TO MODIFY THE PROPERTY RIGHTS THAT AN APPLICANT MAY, MAY RECEIVE, UM, THROUGH THE DISCRETIONARY PROCESS THAT IS, UH, COUNTERED THEN BY DISCRETIONARY REVIEW, WHERE IT IS A REVIEW TO CONSIDER GRANTING ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS.

SO, FOR INSTANCE, YOU MAY HAVE A PROJECT WHERE A MULTI-FAMILY, UH, LAND USE IS PERMITTED BY, RIGHT, BUT IT IS SUBJECT TO SPAR.

SO IN THAT SENSE, WE ARE CONSIDERING GRANTING THOSE ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS TO ACTUALLY DEVELOP THE LAND FOR A PROPOSED MULTI-FAMILY PROJECT AT A CERTAIN DENSITY AND SO FORTH.

AND, UH, WHEN WE ENGAGE IN THAT DISCRETIONARY REVIEW, IT IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL ACTION.

UM, THE, UH, THE DECISION THAT IS BEING MADE BY THE REVIEW AUTHORITY.

AND SO IT IS, UM, THE PROJECT IS SUBJECT TO INTERPRETATION BY THE DECISION MAKER.

SO IN SOME WAYS, THE STATE LEGISLATIVE ACTIONS ARE SEEKING TO THROTTLE BACK SOME OF THAT DISCRETIONARY REVIEW IN AN EFFORT TO STREAMLINE AND CREATE CERTAINTY FOR DEVELOPERS.

UM, IN OTHER CASES THEN, SUCH AS SB 35, THEY'RE ELIMINATING THAT DISCRETIONARY REVIEW OPPORTUNITY.

I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE FUNCTION OF ELIMINATING A DISCRETIONARY REVIEW HAS THE EFFECT OF ELIMINATING THEN ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW PURSUANT TO CE QA, BECAUSE ONLY PROJECTS THAT ARE SUBJECT TO DISCRETIONARY REVIEW ARE ADDITIONALLY SUBJECT TO CQA.

SO THEN, OF COURSE, OBJECTIVE REVIEW.

WE ARE LIMITED ON THE REASONS FOR DISAPPROVAL, AND, UM, TYPICALLY THAT DOES HAVE, UH, IS SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO PUBLIC HEALTH SAFETY AND WELFARE FINDING.

UM, IN THOSE CASES WHERE THE CITY MAY SEEK TO DISAPPROVE A PROJECT, IT IS CITY BURDENED.

TYPICALLY, THE BURDEN IS ON THE APPLICANT TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THE PROJECT COMPLIES WITH APPLICABLE REGULATIONS OR AS CONSISTENT WITH POLICIES ADOPTED BY THE CITY.

UM, STATE LEGISLATION HAS THE EFFECT OF FLIPPING THAT BURDEN AND PLACING IT ON THE CITY WHEN IT COMES TO DISAPPROVING A QUALIFIED RESIDENTIAL PROJECT.

AND THEN QUALIFYING RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS ARE PROJECTS WHERE THE STATE, UH, LAW LIMITS, UM, A PROJECTS REVIEW TO MINISTERIAL OR OBJECTIVE REVIEW UNDER, UM, UH, OBJECTIVE DESIGNER DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.

UM, WE HAVE A REQUEST FROM THE TRANSLATORS,

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UH, TO SLOW DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

SO THE, UH, THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS BEING PROPOSED THIS EVENING ARE RESPONSIVE TO, UH, PETALUMA AND STATEWIDE GOALS, POLICIES OR REQUIREMENTS.

THEY'RE REFLECTED IN THE CITY GOALS AND PRIORITIES, PRIORITIES FOR 2021 THROUGH 2023, SPECIFICALLY GOAL 2 1 3.

AND THAT DOES, I THINK, REFLECT WHEN THE PROJECT WAS INITIATED IN 2020.

AND THEN THEY ARE REFLECTED IN POLICY 2.3 OF THE ADOPTED SIX CYCLE HOUSING ELEMENT.

AND FINALLY, THE, UM, THEY ARE SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED IN STATE REGULATIONS FOR QUALIFYING RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS SUCH AS SB 35, SB THREE 30, AND AB 2162.

I WANT TO, UM, TAKE A MOMENT TO EXAMINE THESE BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE NATURE OF, UH, THESE VARIOUS STATE LEGISLATIVE ACTIONS.

FOR INSTANCE, SB 35 WOULD, UH, STREAMLINE REVIEW BY ELIMINATING DISCRETIONARY REVIEW.

SO A PROJECT THAT TAKES ADVANTAGE OF SB 35 WOULD COME FORWARD AS A MINISTERIAL PROJECT.

IT WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A MINIMUM AMOUNT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN IT, AND IT WOULD ALSO HAVE TO PAY, UH, THE, UM, CONSTRUCTION WORKERS' PREVAILING WAGE.

THEN, UH, IN CONTRAST TO SB THREE 30, UH, WHICH WAS INCLUDED AS THE HOUSING HOUSING CRISIS ACT OF 2019.

SB THREE 30 IS A PRELIMINARY APPLICATION PROCESS WHERE A PROJECT WOULD SEEK TO VEST ITSELF UNDER THE, UM, REGULATIONS THAT ARE IN EFFECT AT THE TIME THAT THE PRELIMINARY APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED.

THE, SO SB THREE 30 MAY NOT NECESSARILY HAVE AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING REQUIREMENT.

IT MAY NOT HAVE A PREVAILING WAGE REQUIREMENT, BUT WHAT STATE LAW DOES IS SAYS THAT ONCE THE PROJECT IS VESTED, IT CAN ONLY BE REVIEWED AGAINST THOSE OBJECTIVE STANDARDS THAT ARE IN PLACE AT THE TIME THAT IT WAS VESTED.

IT DOES GO THROUGH A DISCRETIONARY REVIEW PROCESS SUCH AS SPAR.

HOWEVER, IN THAT PROCESS, UM, WERE WE TO PLACE A CONDITION OF APPROVAL ON THE PROJECT, THE APPLICANT COULD RESPOND AND ARGUE THAT THE PROJECT'S FEASIBILITY, UM, IS IMPAIRED BY THAT CONDITION OF APPROVAL, AND THEREFORE, IT WOULD NOT HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THAT CONDITION OF APPROVAL.

WERE THAT TO HAPPEN THEN, UM, AGAIN, THE CITY MAY BE BURDENED TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THAT CONDITION IS NECESSARY FOR PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY OR WELFARE.

AND THEN FINALLY, AB 2162 IS A SUPPORTIVE HOUSING STREAMLINED APPROVAL PROCESS.

AND, UH, THAT'S SPECIFIC TO THAT, THAT LOOKS AT LEVELS OF AFFORDABILITY, AS WELL AS PERCENTAGES OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING INCLUDED IN A PRO IN A PROJECT TO, UM, APPROVALS FOR THAT AS WELL.

AND ALL OF THESE ARE USING OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS.

SO THEN THE REGULATORY FRAMEWORK REMAINS LARGELY THE SAME.

IT'S REALLY ADDITIVE IN NATURE.

UM, WHEN WE LOOK, WHEN WE START TO TALK ABOUT OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS, THE REGULATORY FRAMEWORK INCLUDES THE CALIFORNIA BUILDING CODE, CAL GREEN, AND OTHER STATE REGULATIONS ADMINISTERED BY A VARIETY OF AGENCIES.

IT INCLUDES, UH, PETALUMA MUNICIPAL CODE, WHICH IS COMPRISED OF, UH, THE BUILDING CODE FIRE CODE, UH, STORM WATER REQUIREMENTS, WATER CONSERVATION REQUIREMENTS.

THEN AS WELL AS ALSO THE IZO AND THE SMART CODE.

IN THE GENERAL PLAN, WE HAVE LIMITED OBJECTIVE STANDARDS.

THE MOST RECOGNIZABLE OBJECTIVE STANDARD IN THE GENERAL PLAN IS DENSITY OR FAR.

BEYOND THAT, TYPICALLY THE GENERAL PLAN, UM, ESTABLISHES POLICIES THAT ARE THEN CODIFIED AND REFLECTED THEN IN THE IZO OR IN OTHER REGULATORY DOCUMENTS.

SO WHAT IS UNIQUELY, UM, OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS? WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THEY WOULD ONLY APPLY TO PROJECTS THAT QUALIFY FOR MINISTERIAL OR OBJECTIVE REVIEW.

UH, SUBJECT TO STATE LEGISLATIVE ADOPTION, THEY FOCUS ON DESIGN ELEMENTS.

SO WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT OPERATIONAL CHARACTERISTICS OR PERFORMANCE STANDARDS.

WE'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON MORE CLEARLY ARTICULATING PREFERENCES FOR, UH, DESIGN ELEMENTS THAT WOULD ENHANCE CHARACTER LIVABILITY, EQUITY, CONNECTIVITY, OR SUSTAINABILITY.

IT, THEY HAVE THE EFFECT OF REQUIRING CERTAIN DESIGN ELEMENTS OR MATERIALS.

AND IF WE REQUIRE SOMETHING, THEN WE WOULD ESTABLISH A MINIMUM REQUIREMENT, UM, BY WHICH A PROJECT WOULD HAVE TO EXHIBIT THAT ELEMENT OF MATERIAL, OR WE MIGHT, UH, SPECIFY A MAXIMUM

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REQUIREMENT BY WHICH A PROJECT COULD NOT EXCEED, UH, THAT PARTICULAR STANDARD.

THEY ALSO HAVE THE EFFECT OF PROHIBITING CERTAIN DESIGN ELEMENTS OR MATERIALS, AND WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THAT LATER.

WITH REGARD TO VINYL WINDOWS.

UM, WE DID WANT TO COMMENT, AND WE'LL BE ADDING, UH, SOME LANGUAGE THAT WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER FOR ADDITION TO THE ORDINANCE.

WE REALIZED THAT, UM, THE ORDINANCE DOES NOT THEN TALK ABOUT, UM, ARCHITECTURAL OR DESIGN FEATURES OR MATERIALS, UM, COMPREHENSIVELY IT ONLY TALKS ABOUT THOSE THAT ARE EITHER REQUIRED OR PROHIBITED.

SO WE DO, WE WILL BE PROPOSING THAT WE ADD SOME LANGUAGE THAT WOULD ADDRESS OTHER ARCHITECTURAL OR DESIGN FEATURES BY SAYING THAT THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED UNLESS THEY'RE EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE ORDINANCE.

SO THEN SOME OTHER KEY ATTRIBUTES OF OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS, UH, THAT THEY APPLY TO PRIVATE PROPERTY, AND HOW PRIVATE PROPERTY CONNECTS THEM WITH THE STREETS, BUT THEY DO NOT APPLY TO STREET DESIGN, UH, WITHIN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.

THEY ARE INTENDED TO FILL GAPS AND TO SUPPORT OUR EXISTING, UM, REGULATORY EFFORTS THROUGH OUR OTHER ORDINANCES AND, AND, UH, REGULATIONS.

AND THEY SHOULD AVOID DUPLICATION BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE CON, UH, INCONSISTENCY OR CONTRADICTORY REGULATIONS.

I BELIEVE THAT THROUGH, UM, OUR REVIEW PROCESS, WE'VE, WE'VE MANAGED TO IDENTIFY ANY POTENTIAL INCONSISTENCIES OR, UM, CONTRADICTIONS AND RESOLVE THEM.

AND THEN FINALLY, THEY SHOULD AVOID CAUSING AN EXCESSIVE BURDEN THAT WOULD PREVENT CERTAINLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT IN PARTICULAR, BUT HOUSING DEVELOPMENT GENERALLY AS WELL.

SO THEN THE FIVE GOALS OF OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS.

AND THESE WERE, UM, UH, ESTABLISHED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN, UH, 2020 AND 2021.

THEY SHOULD, UH, DESIGN PLACES THAT REFLECT, UH, THE PETALUMA COMMUNITY AND CONTRIBUTE TO ITS PHYSICAL, ECONOMIC, SOCIAL, AND CULTURAL CHARACTER.

THEY SHOULD EMPHASIZE A PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED AND ENVIRONMENT, UM, PARTICULARLY WITH REGARD TO CONNECTIVITY TO THE PUBLIC REAL, THEY SHOULD MAKE SPACES THAT RECOGNIZE AND SUPPORT RESIDENTS, UM, AND WORKERS' ACTIVITIES ACROSS ALL AGES, ABILITIES, CULTURE, RACE, GENDER, AND INCOME.

AND THEY SHOULD DESIGN AND SUPPORT SAFE, FUNCTIONAL, AND COMFORTABLE MULTIMODAL CONNECTIONS.

UM, IN PARTICULAR WALKING AND BICYCLE.

UM, PUBLIC TRANSIT WOULD BE ADDRESSED THROUGH THE, UH, THROUGH THE CITY'S, UH, TRANSIT PLANNING EFFORTS, UM, WHEN WE THINK ABOUT, UM, TRANSIT STOPS AND SO FORTH.

UM, AND THEN THEY SHOULD SUPPORT SUSTAINABLE BUILDING PRACTICES AND SITE DESIGN APPROACHES TO ENHANCE A RESILIENCE AND RE AND RESOURCE STEWARDSHIP.

SO THE ORGANIZATION OF THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS THAT ARE BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING, AS I MENTIONED, IT IS A SECTION 7.120 OF THE ICO.

UM, THE FIRST SECTION IS PURPOSE, FOLLOWED BY APPLICABILITY, THEN DEFINITIONS, THEN WE GET INTO A SITE DESIGN STANDARDS, AND WE HAVE 10 SUBSECTIONS THERE.

AND THEN, UM, BUILDING DESIGN STANDARDS.

AND WE HAVE FOUR SUBSECTIONS THERE.

I WANT TO GO BACK A MOMENT TO THE FIVE GOALS.

UM, IN PARTICULAR, WHAT WE SOUGHT TO DO WHEN, WHEN CRAFTING THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS WAS NOT TO CREATE NEW STANDARDS THAT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN SUPPORTED BY, UM, CITY POLICIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY ADOPTED.

AND THAT WAS A BIT OF A CHALLENGE BECAUSE WE, WE ARE WORKING FORWARD WITH A VARIETY OF, OF REALLY GREAT IDEAS AND INITIATIVES, UM, TO SUPPORT, UH, THE CITY'S CARBON REDUCTION GOALS, AS WELL AS TO INCREASE WALKABILITY, UM, AND ENHANCE ALTERNATE MODES OF TRANSPORTATION.

BUT WE, WE WANTED TO BE VERY CAREFUL THAT WE WEREN'T CREATING A STANDARD THAT WAS NOT SUPPORTED OR REFLECTIVE OF A POLICY.

AND SO, FOR THAT REASON, UM, YOU MAY HAVE OBSERVED WHEN YOU WERE REVIEWING THE, THE DRAFT STANDARDS THAT THERE WERE SOME STANDARDS MISSING.

BUT, UM, WE BELIEVE THAT THOSE WILL COME FORWARD AS POLICIES ARE ADOPTED, UM, THROUGH THE BLUEPRINT FOR CARBON NEUTRALITY, UM, AND THROUGH THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN AND SO FORTH.

SO WE'D REALLY DO ENCOURAGE YOU TO VIEW THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS AS ESSENTIALLY A LIVING ORDINANCE IN THE SENSE THAT, UH, WE WOULD WANT TO TAKE IT THROUGH A REGULAR AMENDMENT PROCESS AS THESE OTHER POLICIES ARE ADOPTED, AND IN PARTICULAR IN LIGHT OF THE GENERAL PLAN UPDATE THAT WILL BE COMING FORWARD.

AND SO WITH THAT, UH, WE LOOK AT THE EXISTING REGULATIONS AND HOW

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THEY STACK UP AND SUPPORT THE FIVE GOALS.

WE SEE A VARIETY OF, OF, UM, EXISTING REGULATIONS IN THE GENERAL PLAN IN THE ICO THROUGH OUR HILLSIDE PRESERVATION PERFORMANCE STANDARDS, UH, PRESERVATION OF CULTURAL AND HISTORIC ENVIRONMENT, AND OUR SUBDIVISION STANDARDS, WHICH ARE IN THE MUNICIPAL CODE THAT, UH, SUPPORT CHARACTER, HUMAN SCALED HUMAN SCALE DEVELOPMENT.

WE'RE LOOKING AT BUILDING HEIGHT LIMITATIONS AND TREE PRESERVATION EQUITY STANDARDS ARE EMBODIED, UH, ESPECIALLY IN OUR RESIDENTIAL VISITABILITY AND UNIVERSAL DESIGN STANDARDS, AS WELL AS THE, UM, CALIFORNIA BUILDING CODE AND OUR ACCESSIBILITY REQUIREMENTS, PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE, UM, CONNECTIVITY THROUGH OUR STREET STANDARDS, OUR BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN MASTER PLAN, OUR EMERGING ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

AND THEN FINALLY, UH, SUSTAINABILITY GOALS THROUGH OUR LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE, UM, OUR EMERGING TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE UPDATE, UM, AND A VARIETY OF OTHERS INCLUDING WAY LOW AND STORMWATER REGULATIONS.

SO THEN WE WANT TO TAKE A LOOK THEN AND SAY, WELL, WHAT DID WE ADDITIONALLY DO WITH THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS? AND SO WHEN WE LOOK AT HOW THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS THAT ARE BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING, HOW THEY THEN, UM, FALL INTO THESE VARIOUS CATEGORIES AND SUPPORT THE FIVE GOALS THAT WERE CRAFTED IN 2020 AND 2021.

SO YOU'LL SEE WE HAVE BUILDING ORIENTATION ACROSS A COUPLE OF THE GOALS.

UM, WE HAVE LANDSCAPING OPEN SPACE.

UM, WE DO REGULATE TO SOME EXTENT, UH, DEVELOPMENTS INTERACTION WITH RIVER AND CREEKS.

UM, AND, AND A LOT OF THESE CATEGORIES OF OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS DO RESPOND TO A VARIETY OF, UM, GOALS THAT WERE ESTABLISHED FOR THE PROJECT.

AND SO WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO, UH, SENIOR PLANNER GITZ, AND SHE'S GOING TO TAKE YOU THROUGH SOME DEEPER DIVES INTO, UH, SOME OF THE SPECIFIC, UM, STANDARDS THAT WERE DEVELOPED.

GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYOR.

UM, SO AS, UM, PLANNING MANAGER, TRIPLE JUST EXPLAINED, UM, THESE WERE ADDITIVE.

UM, WE LOOKED FOR GAPS.

WE ALSO LOOKED AT, UH, GUIDELINES THAT WERE NOT, UH, FIRM FIRMLY PLANTED AS OBJECTIVE.

SO, UM, THEY COME FROM A VARIETY OF PLACES.

SOME OF THEM COME FROM THE SPAR GUIDELINES THAT ARE NOT CODIFIED.

SO FOR THE SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL VIEWS, SOME OF THEM COME FROM THE RIVER ENHANCEMENT AND ACCESS PLAN.

UM, SOME OF THEM CAME FROM STAKEHOLDER INPUT, SO THEY'RE KIND OF, BUT WE LOOKED AT FILLING GAPS.

SO, UM, TO GET STARTED, UM, AS WE TALKED ABOUT, TO ADDRESS THE GOALS, UM, GROUND FLOOR ACTIVATING STRATEGIES WAS ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT WE LOOKED AT.

UM, AND THE IDEA IS TO TRY AND CREATE ACTIVITY ON THE STREET.

IT'S ABOUT CREATING SAFE SPACES.

UM, IT'S ABOUT CREATING ACTIVITY.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT A LOT OF THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT YOU'LL SEE IN DIFFERENT AREAS, UM, THEY'RE ORIENTED INWARDS.

AND THIS IS ABOUT BRINGING ONTO THE STREET TO CREATE THAT PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION, UM, WITH THE PUBLIC REALM.

SO, UM, INTERNALLY, UM, THE IDEA IS ALSO THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE, UM, CONNECTIONS WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT TO SUPPORT PEDESTRIAN NETWORKS.

YOU KNOW, UM, IF I COULD, UM, I THINK WE'RE GET STARTING TO GET INTO SOME PRETTY DEEP STUFF, AND IT MAY BE OF INTEREST TO, WOULD YOU BE COMFORTABLE TAKING A FEW QUESTIONS AS WE GO, RATHER THAN TRYING TO, I MEAN, MM-HMM.

, YOU STILL HAVE ANOTHER 20 MINUTES, 30 MINUTES OF PRESENTATION? YEAH, I, I, I CAN'T REMEMBER QUESTION THAT LONG, SO I THINK THAT'S THE BEST WAY FOR COUNCIL I, I'M GONNA INVITE THE COUNCIL AS, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, AS WE GO ALONG, IF WE COULD JUST GIVE YOU A HIGH SIGN AND IF YOU COULD LOOK UP AND DOWN AND, UM, AND WITH THAT, I, COUNCIL MEMBER HEALEY, DO YOU WANT TO KICK THIS OFF? YEAH, PLEASE.

IF YOU COULD GO BACK ONE SLIDE OF THE ACTIVATION.

AND THE THOUGHT WOULD WAS THAT THERE WOULD BE PEOPLE HANGING THEIR SHINGLES OUT.

UM, IS, IS THIS LIMITED GEOGRAPHICALLY, OR IS THIS SUPPLY ANYWHERE IN TOWN? THIS IS, THIS IS, UH, THIS, THIS IS NOT BY NEIGHBORHOOD, SO THIS IS CITYWIDE.

AND, AND THE REASON I ASK, I MEAN, WE'VE STRUGGLED WITH THIS ISSUE FOR YEARS.

UM, WHEN WE APPROVED THE, UH, THEATER DISTRICT 20 YEARS AGO, COUNCIL MEMBER NOW MIGHT REMEMBER THIS, UM, ALL OF THE APARTMENTS FACING FIRST STREET AS PART OF THAT PROJECT WERE DESIGNED AS LIVE WORK UNITS.

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AND IF YOU DRIVE DOWN THOSE THREE BLOCKS, NOW, THERE'S ZERO.

NONE OF THEM ARE USED AS LIVE WORK UNITS.

UM, WE'RE HAVING, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, RIVER CITY APARTMENTS ACROSS FROM THE GOLDEN EAGLE.

UM, THERE'S BEEN ONE SUCCESSFUL, UM, RESTAURANT BECAUSE THEY OVERLOOKED THE RIVER.

THE OTHER SPACES HAVE BEEN BLIGHT AND VACANT FOR YEARS.

AND NOW, UH, THE OWNERS CONVERTING THOSE INTO RESIDENTIAL UNITS.

UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE BRAND NEW, UM, NORTH RIVER STREET APARTMENTS, UM, THERE ARE, UM, THESE KINDS OF UNITS FACING THE BOULEVARD NORTH WITH FOUR LEASE SIGNS ON THEM BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO FIND TENANTS.

IF YOU LOOK ACROSS THE STREET FROM EXCHANGE BANK, I BELIEVE THERE'S FOUR VACANT TENDENCIES OUT OF FIVE.

AND, AND, AND THIS IS JUST ON THE PERIPHERY OF DOWNTOWN, AND THE PROPOSAL FROM STAFF IS TO APPLY.

I MEAN, IT LOOKS LIKE INSTANT BLIGHT TO ME.

UM, SO ESPECIALLY IF YOU MOVE UP AWAY FROM DOWNTOWN, UH, CAN, CAN YOU RESPOND TO THAT, PLEASE? SURE.

SO IT IS NOT A REQUIREMENT THAT IT'S A COMMERCIAL SPACE.

SO ONE OF THE USES IS A RESIDENTIAL ENTRYWAY.

SO THAT JUST MEANS A DOORWAY INTO RESIDENCES.

IT COULD BE A MAIN APARTMENT BUILDING ENTRANCE, OR IT COULD BE RESIDENCES TO INDIVIDUAL LIVING UNITS.

UM, IT COULD ALSO BE LOBBY, IT COULD ALSO BE OTHER TENANT SERVICES.

UM, WE, WE DID HAVE MANY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT IT SHOULD BE A REQUIRED COMMERCIAL SPACE, AND IT IS DEFINITELY NOT.

AND THE REASON BEING IS, AS YOU POINT OUT, UM, IF YOU REQUIRE IT TO BE COMMERCIAL GROUND FLOOR, UM, THAT'S UNNECESSARY, THEN YES, YOU CAN ABSOLUTELY END UP WITH BLIGHT.

SO IT JUST REQUIRES THAT THERE'S PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY ON THE STREET, NOT NECESSARILY SOMETHING COMMERCIAL.

SO JUST A A, A LINE OF FRONT DOORS WOULD SATISFY THIS.

MM-HMM, , ABSOLUTELY.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

A ADDITIONALLY, COUNCIL MEMBER HEALY, THIS DOESN'T CHANGE THE, UM, ALLOWABLE LAND USES, UH, THAT WOULD BE ESTABLISHED BY THE ZONING DISTRICT.

SO YOU, YOU WOULD STILL, UM, HAVE OUR MIXED USE ZONING DISTRICTS, OUR COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICTS WITH, UH, GROUND FLOOR, COMMERCIAL SPACE RESIDENTIAL ABOVE.

UM, BUT YOU COULD ALSO HAVE A MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT WITH NO GROUND FLOOR COMMERCIAL REQUIREMENT.

SO THIS REALLY JUST SEEKS TO CREATE SOME ENGAGEMENT BETWEEN THE, THE BUILDING AND THE STREET TO ESTABLISH SOME SORT OF RELATIONSHIP, BUT IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY RELY ON A COMMERCIAL USE FOR ACTIVATION.

SO, AND MY FOLLOW UP DOES, DOES THIS REQUIRE THE CONSTRUCTION TO BE OF COMMERCIAL HEIGHT AS PART OF THE OBJECTIVE STANDARD? SO HEIGHT IS REGULATED IN THE, UM, SO CHAPTER FOUR OR CHAPTER TWO, CHAPTER FOUR, , UM, THAT'S RIGHT.

CHAPTER FOUR, LAND USE TABLES.

WE DIDN'T MESS WITH THOSE.

SO, UM, HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS, FAR, UM, LOCK COVERAGE, UM, OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS ARE ALREADY ESTABLISHED, AND WE DID NOT CHANGE ANY OF THAT BECAUSE THEY ARE ALREADY EXISTING, UM, REGULATIONS.

SO, SO WOULD THIS FIRST FLOOR IN ACTIVATION HAVE TO BE CONSTRUCTED ABLE TO BE EITHER OR WILL IT BE DEVELOPER'S CHOICE AND NOT SET AS A CITY OBJECTIVE? IT, IT WOULD DEPEND UPON IF THE SPACE IS REQUIRED TO BE COMMERCIAL.

SO IF, IF THE IZO, IF IF CHAPTER FOUR ALLOWABLE LAND USE REQUIREMENTS, STATE THAT IT HAS TO BE GROUND FLOOR COMMERCIAL, THEN IT WOULD HAVE TO BE CONSTRUCTED TO A, A COMMERCIAL STANDARD.

BUT IF YOU'RE IN A, UM, R FOUR ZONING DISTRICT WHERE YOU COULD, UH, CONSTRUCT 100% MULTIFAMILY, THEN YOU COULD CONSTRUCT GROUND FLOOR TO A RESIDENTIAL STANDARD.

, AND I'LL JUST ADD THIS, THAT I HAVE SEEN SOME PROJECTS, NOT PETALUMA, BUT OTHER PROJECTS ELSEWHERE WHERE, UM, DEVELOPERS ARE ACTUALLY WAIVING SOME OF THE GROUND FLOOR COMMERCIAL REQUIREMENTS.

UM, AND SO THERE'S THIS IDEA THAT IS COMING FORTH ABOUT FLEXIBLE SPACES THAT I THINK MAY END UP BEING REFLECTED IN OTHER PLANNING EFFORTS.

NOT THIS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT THERE FOR THIS, BUT, UM, BUT THERE'S DIFFERENT THOUGHTS.

SO APPRECIATE THAT THOSE COMMENTS.

UM, SO, UM, PEDESTRIAN, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT CIRCULATION AND ACCESS AND MAKING DEVELOPMENTS AVAILABLE TO PEDESTRIANS?

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THEN WE'LL MOVE ON.

THERE'S ALSO PARKING SCREENING REQUIREMENTS.

SO, UM, CANOPY COVERAGE IN PARKING LOTS.

SO THIS IS A SHIFT.

UM, WE STARTED OUT WITH TREES PER SQUARE FEET, UM, AND IT WAS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED THAT WE GO TO CANOPY COVERAGE.

UM, THIS CAME ABOUT DURING THE PLANNING COMMISSION WORKSHOPS.

SO WE DID REVISE TO DO, UM, 50% TREE CANOPY CANOPY COVERAGE, UM, FOR PARKING AREAS.

AND, UM, WHAT, UM, SOMETHING THAT YOU MAY WANT TO DISCUSS TODAY, THERE WAS PUBLIC COMMENTS ABOUT THIS, UM, WHICH IS THAT THE, UM, THE WAY THE CODE IS WRITTEN, AND THIS WAS ACTUALLY AT THE RECOMMENDATION OF PLANNING COMMISSION, WAS THAT UP TO 100% OF THE REQUIRED CANOPY COVERAGE COULD BE USED, COULD BE DONE USING SOLAR PANELS, UM, AS LONG AS THE PERIMETER HAS 30, HAS ONE TREE PER 30 FEET.

SO, UM, BUT IF YOU WANTED TO SAY, UM, DO ONLY 50% OF THE REQUIRED 50%, YOU COULD DO 25%, COULD BE SOLAR PANELS AND 25% COVERAGE WITH TREES.

SO, UM, IF COUNCIL WISHES TO GIVE DIFFERENT DIRECTION, WE'RE HAPPY TO REVISE.

AND OH, AND ADDITIONAL COMMENT WHILE WE'RE HERE ON, UM, WHILE WE'RE HERE, UH, TALKING ABOUT PARKING THAT I DID WANT TO ADDRESS, UM, THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT, UM, PARKING MAXIMUMS AND MINIMUMS. DID, DID DO THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS MODIFY THE MINIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENT THAT'S ESTABLISHED BY THE IZO, AND THEY DO NOT DO THAT.

UM, WE ARE, UH, MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PARKING STUDY, AND WE BELIEVE THAT OUT OF THE PARKING STUDY, THEN THERE WILL BE POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, TO MODIFY MINIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE, UH, APPLICABLE TO ALL DEVELOPMENT.

UM, THE AND, AND THE STATE HAS PASSED RECENT LEGISLATION THAT PROHIBITS THE CITY FROM APPLYING A MINIMUM PARKING STANDARD, FOR INSTANCE, UM, FOR ANY, I BELIEVE RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IF YOU'RE WITHIN, UH, HALF A MILE OF HIGH QUALITY TRANSIT.

SO THERE, THERE ARE SOME, UM, STATE REGULATIONS THAT WOULD BE LIMITING, UH, WHAT THE CITY COULD REQUIRE IN TERMS OF PARKING.

ADDITIONALLY, WE DID NOT UNBUNDLE PARKING AS PART OF THIS PROJECT.

UM, BUT CERTAINLY WE ARE LOOKING FOR THE PARKING STUDY, UM, TO RECOMMEND ON A, UM, UH, AN AMENDMENT OR AN ADDITION OF SOME RE SOME REGULATION TO UNBUNDLE.

AND THEN FINALLY, THE, THE, UM, OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS DO RELY ON BUILDING CODE AND CAL GREEN REQUIREMENTS FOR MINIMUM NUMBER OF EV CHARGERS, UH, WHICH IS BASED UPON A PERCENTAGE OF PARKING SPACES AVAILABLE.

CAN I ASK WHEN THE ANTICIPATED DATE OF THAT UNBUNDLING OR MAXIMUM MINIMUM DOCUMENTATION PER POLICY WOULD BE COMING UP FORWARD? IS THAT WITH THE ICO OF THE UPDATED GENERAL PLAN? CAN I YEP.

UH, BRIAN O DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, UH, NO LATER THAN THE UPDATE TO THE ICO, WHICH WE ANTICIPATE BEFORE END OF NEXT YEAR.

UH, BUT WE WILL BE KICKING OFF WHAT, UM, OUR PLANNING MANAGERS REFERENCING A PARKING STUDY, A DOWNTOWN PARKING STUDY, UM, HERE IN THE NEXT MONTH.

SO A LOT MORE TO COME, UH, THIS YEAR, UM, BUT WE WOULD EXPECT THAT TO COMPLETE NO LATER THAN END OF NEXT YEAR.

THAT'S, UH, UM, THAT'S AMBITIOUS TO GET, UH, THOSE PARKING THINGS.

THAT'S, YOU GUYS GOT YOUR WORK CUT UP.

GO AHEAD.

THANKS.

AND, UM, I'M INVITING IN, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLE.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

UM, TWO QUESTIONS.

WHY DID WE NOT INCLUDE UNBUNDLED PARKING IN THIS? UM, IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE SOMETHING WE NEED TO STUDY TO KNOW THAT IT'S, UM, THE LEADING PRACTICE.

AND THEN THE SECOND QUESTION, UM, CAN YOU JUST TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE RATIONALE FOR THE, THE LANDSCAPING, UM, NOT SO MUCH ON THE TREES, BUT THE, THE, THE MEDIAN LOOKING THINGS AND JUST THE RATIONALE FOR THOSE.

BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOMEWHERE FOR ALL THE RUNOFF TO GO, ESPECIALLY IN BIG STORMS LIKE THIS ONE THAT WE JUST HAD.

SO I'LL START WITH THE LANDSCAPING QUESTION, AND THE, THE DESIGN OF THE LANDSCAPING IS, DOES NOT HAVE TO BE THE MEDIAN STRIPS.

UM, THAT'S JUST HOW THE GRAPHIC CAME OUT.

BUT THERE IS A REQUIREMENT FOR GREEN SPACE IN PARKING LOTS.

UM, AND IT IS CONSISTENT WITH, I BELIEVE, THE WELLOW REQUIREMENT AS WELL, BECAUSE, UM, AND THERE'S ALSO STORM WATER REQUIREMENTS

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UM, SO THERE, THERE IS A GREEN SPACE REQUIREMENT IN THE PARKING LOTS.

UM, AS TO THE UNBUNDLING, WE JUST WANTED TO NOT, UM, ADD ADDITIONAL, LIKE WE'RE GOING TO DO A PARKING ORDINANCE OVERHAUL AND HAVING DIFFERENT, UM, PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR DIFFERENT THINGS DIDN'T NECESSARILY, UM, MAKE SENSE.

THAT WAS SORT OF THE IDEA IS TO TRY AND KIND OF MAKE SURE WE STAY FOCUSED ON OBJECTIVE STANDARDS OF LIKE, WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO FILL GAP WISE? UM, AND BECAUSE WE WEREN'T DOING THE WHOLE THING, WE JUST DIDN'T WANT TO START LOADING IN LIKE, LITTLE BITS OF DIFFERENT POLICIES.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA ADD ANYTHING TO THAT.

I THINK THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD IS THAT, THAT, UM, AND THE CODE RECOGNIZES THIS, BUT PARKING IS A FUNCTION OF LAND USE.

AND SO WE WANTED TO, UH, REMAIN CONSTRAINED TO OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS, WHICH IS HOW WE DESIGN A PARKING LOT, BUT NOT, UM, START TO GET INTO THE, UH, THE OPERATIONAL CHARACTERISTICS OF A LAND USE AND, UM, CREATING NEW, UH, PARKING REGULATIONS THAT MAY NOT APPLY TO ALL PROJECTS.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, IF WE DO WANT TO UNBUNDLE, THEN WE WOULD LOOK TO A POLICY TO DIRECT THE UNBUNDLING AND THEN GO BACK AND MAKE THAT AMENDMENT TO THE IZO, UM, AS OPPOSED TO DOING IT THROUGH THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS, WHICH WOULD APPLY TO JUST A SELECT NUMBER OF PROJECTS.

THANK YOU FOR THOSE EXPLANATIONS.

IT'S HELPFUL.

UM, ONE FOLLOW UP QUESTION ON THE LANDSCAPING.

UM, I DON'T RECALL IN THE, UH, IN, IN THE TEXT THAT I READ THAT IT, UM, THE LANDSCAPING WAS LIKE, HAD TO PROVIDE STORM WATER BENEFITS.

UM, AND I ASK, BECAUSE I SEE A LOT OF THESE SORTS OF MEDIANS THAT KIND OF LOOK LIKE WHAT'S THERE, AND THEY'RE ALL RAISED UP ABOVE THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE PARKING LOT.

AND SO IT'S NOT ACTUALLY HELPING TO RETAIN ANY STORM WATER.

UM, AND IT JUST OFTENTIMES THEY DON'T ACTUALLY GET MAINTAINED AND THEY JUST WIND UP, YOU KNOW, TAKING UP SPACE.

SO I'M JUST WONDERING HOW WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT THEY ACTUALLY OKAY.

YEAH, SO THERE, THE, SO THROUGH REGIONAL WATER QUALITY BOARD, THERE'S REGULATIONS ABOUT WHAT HAS TO BE DONE FOR STORM WATER, AND THEN I BELIEVE THAT THOSE STORM WATER REQUIREMENTS ARE ENFORCED THROUGH THE COUNTY OR THE CITY, THROUGH THE CITY.

THEY ARE ENFORCED THROUGH THE CITY.

SO, UM, BUT IT'S PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING THAT LOOK AT THAT.

AND SO, UM, BUT NEW DEVELOPMENT IS REQUIRED TO HAVE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE THAT'S, UH, CALLED PERVIOUS SURFACE, MEANING IT INFILTRATES, UM, AND THERE HAS TO BE INFILTRATION AND STORM WATER MANAGEMENT FOR THE SITE.

UM, THANK YOU.

JUST A LITTLE FOLLOW UP ON THAT, IF I COULD.

ISN'T THE, UM, STORM WATER ON SITE QUITE A MODEST STORM? ISN'T IT LIKE THE ONE INCH STORM, UH, WITH LIKE LESS THAN A 4%? UM, OF THE BASMA REQUIREMENTS, QUITE MODEST.

IT'S NOT FOR STORMS. THE WAY WE THINK OF STORMS, IT'S MORE FOR CATCHING TRASH BEFORE IT GETS INTO THE WATERWAYS.

SO MOST OF THE STANDARD RELATES TO THAT.

SO THE A HUNDRED YEAR STORM AND THINGS LIKE THAT ARE CLEARLY IN EXCESS OF ANY STORM WATERS, UH, FEATURES ON, ON SITE.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, IN IN THE EVENT OF A HUNDRED YEAR STORM, WE WOULD STILL ANTICIPATE THAT A MAJORITY OF OF WATER WOULD ENTER INTO THE STORM WATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM AS OPPOSED TO BEING RETAINED AND TREATED ONSITE.

RIGHT.

AND THIS ON THE ONSITE STUFF IS LESS THAN A 10 YEAR STORM.

SO SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT.

UM, IS IT POSSIBLE TO ADD UNBUNDLED AT THIS POINT IN THIS, UH, THING IF COUNCIL WANTS TO BRING THAT BACK? I'M, I'M COLLECTING IDEAS THAT WE MAY NEED TO PULL OURSELVES ON AT THE END OF THIS CONVERSATION.

AND SO IS IT, IS IT, IS IT, IS THERE A REASON TO PROHIBIT HAVING THAT IN HERE AT THIS TIME, OTHER THAN THE POLICY CONVERSATION YOU WERE JUST DISCUSSING? ONLY IF YOU WANT TO REQUIRE IT.

UM, THERE'S NOTHING THAT PROHIBITS THE UNBUNDLING OF PARKING, SO, UM, SO IT CAN BE UNBUNDLED, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE.

THAT'S, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING MR. MAYOR.

OH, SORRY.

I JUST DON'T SEE HOW WE CAN CHARACTERIZE BUNDLING VERSUS UNBUNDLING AS A DESIGN ISSUE.

UM, IT, IT, IT'S, IT'S A POLICY ISSUE, BUT IT'S NOT A DESIGN ISSUE.

SO I, I'D PREFER TO WAIT UNTIL WE GOT THE, THE PARKING STUDY AND SEE WHAT THE PROS AND CONS ARE.

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SO, UM, THIS IS ONE OF THE, THE FEW AREAS WHERE WE DID GO, UM, ABOVE AND BEYOND OUR CURRENT CODE, AND IT IS FOR BICYCLE PARKING.

AND, UM, IF YOU HADN'T NOTICED, E-BIKES HAVE BECOME A REALLY BIG THING.

THEY'RE A VERY AFFORDABLE MODE OF TRANSPORTATION.

UM, AND SO FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THERE WAS SUFFICIENT SPACE FOR AFFORDABLE ECO-FRIENDLY TRANSPORTATION.

SO WE DID WORK WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS TEAM SPECIFICALLY BJORN.

UM, WE ALSO GOT SOME FEEDBACK FROM FAR AND PEERS, MATT GOING, WHO ALSO HELPED PROVIDE FEEDBACK.

AND SO I, UM, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO TRY AND ANSWER THEM.

BUT WHAT WE DID WAS REALLY WORK WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WE REALLY UPPED THE PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR THESE BUILDINGS FOR BICYCLES.

SO, UM, THAT'S, UH, WHAT WE HAVE IN HERE IS, UM, PROVIDING SAFE, AFFORDABLE BICYCLE PARKING, OR, I MEAN, THE QUESTION IS, IS DID YOU SATISFY PBA IN ADDITION TO STAFF? DID I, I, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

DO I MEAN, ? THEY, UH, THERE WERE MORE THINGS THAT PAC DEFINITELY WANTED, BUT THEY WERE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS, UH, THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED WITH, UM, MR. BRADY WHO, UM, EXPLAINED THAT THESE WEREN'T ENFORCEABLE THINGS THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY DO THROUGH OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, REQUIRING THAT EVEN THOUGH A BALCONY WOULD NOT NECESSARILY CONSTITUTE A BIKE PARKING SPACE AND COUNT TOWARDS BIKE PARKING, THAT, UM, YOU HAVE TO ALLOW IT, OR THAT YOU HAVE TO ALLOW BIKES IN HALLWAYS, UM, THAT WE COULDN'T ENFORCE THOSE.

UM, I KNOW THERE WERE REQUESTS TO, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY ACTUALLY PURCHASE THE E-BIKE FOR RESIDENTS.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S A PERFORMANCE ISSUE AND WHERE THAT LINE GOES AND HOW YOU ENFORCE SOMETHING LIKE THAT, ESPECIALLY WHEN SOMETIMES DEVELOPERS ARE NOT THE OPERATORS, UM, BECOMES VERY DIFFICULT.

SO, UM, AND NOT REALLY DESIGN RELATED.

SO OTHER THAN THOSE CAVEATS, I BELIEVE THAT WE SATISFIED PAC.

THE OTHER ELECTRIC QUESTION THAT CAME UP WAS, UM, UH, EVS, AND YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU'RE GOING WITH THE CAL GREEN STANDARD, WHICH IS VERY MODEST, AND I THINK YOU HAD A REQUEST FOR, UM, UM, EV READY, UH, CONDUIT IF NOT WIRE.

UM, WHERE DID YOU FIND, WHERE DID YOU FINALLY LAND ON THAT ISSUE? WELL, I, I FINALLY LAND WITH, UM, MR. HOBERG SAYING, THIS IS OUR JURISDICTION .

SO, UM, AGAIN, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO PUT SOMETHING IN OBJECTIVE STANDARDS WHEN THERE'S ALREADY CLEAR, LIKE JURISDICTION IN THE BUILDING CODE.

SO IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL WANTS TO DISCUSS.

IF THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE TIER ONE IS STRONG ENOUGH WITH THE EV REQUIREMENTS, COUNCIL COULD CONSIDER ADOPTING TIER TWO.

UM, AND IF TIER TWO ISN'T CONSIDERED STRONG ENOUGH, THEN COUNCIL MAY WANT TO AMEND THE CITY'S BUILDING CODE TO GO BEYOND CALGARY AND TIER TWO FOR EV REQUIREMENTS.

BUT IT SHOULD BE IN THE BUILDING CODE.

LET ME DRAW A PARALLEL.

THE, THE EQUITY QUESTION IS ALWAYS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE WEALTHY ENOUGH TO HAVE A HOME, YOU HAVE ACCESS TO ELECTRICITY.

IF YOU'RE IN AN APARTMENT, YOU DON'T HAVE THE SAME KIND OF ACCESS.

SO FOR EQUITY, I COULD SEE US PUTTING IT IN THERE, AND THEN WHETHER THAT'S A, UM, SOMETHING FOR THIS CODE OR NOT, WE'RE SAYING THAT WE'RE GONNA CHANGE THE VINYL WINDOW CODE, WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN THE REST OF THE CITY.

I DON'T SEE HOW THERE'S SOMETHING OF A PARALLEL IF WE NEED TO UPGRADE HERE FOR A WINDOW, I DON'T, WE NEED TO UPGRADE HERE FOR AN EV.

KEEP ROLLING THE PRESENTATION.

I GUESS IF WE, WE CAN SAVE THAT FOR THOUGHT FOR DOWN THE ROAD AND KEEP THE, KEEP GOING, THE PRESENT.

WE DISCUSSED IS THAT, UM, A LOT OF CODES, AND IT WAS IN HERE ORIGINALLY, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN COVER YOUR FENCE WITH LANDSCAPING AND IT'S ALL GOOD.

SO, UM, FENCING, UM, THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS FOR FENCING IN THE ICO, BUT THEY'RE VERY LIMITED AND THEY DON'T DISCUSS MATERIALS.

SO WE DID ADD, UM, PROHIBITED MATERIAL, UM, OR MATERIAL PROHIBITIONS, UM, INCLUDING LARGE CHAIN LINKS.

SO THERE'S SOME SMALLER CHAIN LINK THAT OUR DESIGNERS FELT VERY, UM, WAS, WAS A NICE AESTHETIC.

SO YOUR TYPICAL, UM, PARK CHAIN LINK IS PROHIBITED, UM, VINYL, BARBED WIRE AND RAZOR WIRE.

UM, AND THEN ALSO, UM, REQUIREMENTS TO HAVE, UM, MATERIALS THAT SHOW BREAKUP.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT

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WELL, UM, WHAT WE KNOW IS THAT SOMETIMES PLANTS DIE AND SOMETIMES PROPERTIES AREN'T MAINTAINED AS WELL AS WE'D LIKE THEM.

AND AS MUCH AS WE WISH THAT THERE WAS ENOUGH CODE ENFORCEMENT STAFF TO, UM, GET TO EVERY FENCE, THAT'S NOT HAVING ITS PROPER MAINTENANCE IN TERMS OF VEGETATION, THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY FEASIBLE.

SO WE FELT LIKE IT WAS MORE IMPORTANT TO INCLUDE MATERIAL REQUIREMENTS AND SPACING REQUIREMENTS THAT PROVIDED A NICE AESTHETIC REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THERE WERE SHRUBS IN FRONT OF IT.

UM, SO THAT IS ALSO INCLUDED.

AND THEN, UM, SCREENING AS WELL.

SO SCREENING IS A COMMON REQUIREMENT THAT'S PRETTY MUCH PUT ONTO EVERY PROJECT.

THOU SHALL SCREEN EQUIPMENT 'CAUSE WE DON'T LIKE TO SEE OR HEAR UGLY EQUIPMENT.

UM, WHAT WE DID IN THE IZO WAS PROVIDE A SPECIFIC STANDARD SO THAT THIS HOLDS UP AS OBJECTIVE, UM, USING LINE OF SIGHT AND, UM, SO THAT BASED ON LOCATION THAT YOU WOULD NOT HEAR OR SEE UGLY ROOFTOP EQUIPMENT AND, UM, SO LANDSCAPING AND IS ANOTHER ONE.

AND LET ME JUST GO AHEAD AND, UH, GO TO THE LAND.

I KEEP DOING THAT.

UM, SO WE HAD A ROBUST DISCUSSION ABOUT, UM, NATIVE PLANTS BECAUSE, UH, NATIVE PLANTS ARE SOMETHING THAT ARE DESIRED.

SO WE WANNA HAVE DROUGHT TOLERANT, WE WANNA HAVE NATIVE, BUT UM, IT'S NOT FEASIBLE EVERYWHERE.

SO KIND OF WHERE WE LANDED ON THE COMPROMISE IS WITHIN 50 FEET OF A SENSITIVE HABITAT AREA.

AND TO DEFINE, SO THAT THERE'S A CLEAR DEFINITION IS IT HAS TO BE LISTED AS A NATIVE PLANT ON THE CALIFORNIA NATIVE PLANT, SOCIETY'S CAL SCAPE.

SO IF YOU PUT IN PETALUMA, CALIFORNIA, THEY'LL GIVE YOU ALL THE DIFFERENT PLANTS THAT ARE CONSIDERED NATIVE TO PETALUMA.

AND SO THAT WAY IT'S AN OBJECTIVE SOURCE, UM, THAT PROVIDES SPECIFIC DIRECTION IF YOU'RE WITHIN A SENSITIVE HABITAT AREA, WHICH MIGHT BE A MARSH OR A RIPARIAN AREA.

SO, AND THIS IS MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN, UH, WHEELER ORDINANCES.

UM, SO THIS IS COMPLICATED BECAUSE USUALLY WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS, UM, IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE IN WHEELER WHERE THEY WOULD SAY IF YOU'RE WITHIN 50 FEET OF A RIPARIAN ZONE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE CERTAIN KINDS OF PLANTING.

UM, WILLOW IS BASED ON LIKE YOUR TOTAL SITE PLAN AND RECOMMENDATIONS OF YOUR, YOU KNOW, THIS X PERCENT OF YOUR PLANTING SHOULD BE X, Y, Z.

SO THIS IS REALLY ABOUT, UM, IF YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC SENSITIVE HABITAT AREA.

SO THE RIVER, UM, WE JUST, THIS, WHICH IS REALLY WHERE THIS CAME FROM WAS ORIGINALLY IT STARTED OUT WITH THE RIVER ENHANCEMENT ACCESS PLAN, TALKING ABOUT RIPARIAN AREAS, BUT IT DID, IN THIS CASE WE DID DECIDE TO SAY SENSITIVE HABITAT AREA.

'CAUSE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S SPECIFICALLY DEFINED, UM, IN THIS CODE.

WE'VE ADDED IT, BUT IT WAS SPECIFICALLY DEFINED IN, I BELIEVE IT WAS THAT IT WAS EITHER THE GENERAL, NO, IT WAS GENERAL PLAN WHERE THAT CAME FROM.

UM, SO AGAIN, UM, WE TALKED ABOUT PERIMETER TREES FOR PARKING AND, UM, AND I, MY APOLOGIES TO, UH, MR. LELAND, BECAUSE HE DID PROPOSE AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO SWITCH FROM THE ONE TREE PER 500 FEET TO THE 30% CANOPY COVERAGE.

AND I MADE THAT CHANGE AND THEN SOMEHOW IT GOT LOST IN THE VERSION.

AND SO, UM, WE ARE REQUESTING THAT MODIFICATION FROM THE ONE THAT YOU HAVE.

UM, AND SO THE, THE REVISED TEXT IS, UM, AS RECOMMENDED AS TREES SHALL BE PLANTED SO THAT THE AVERAGE ESTIMATED CANOPY DIAMETER AFTER 15 YEARS OF AGE COVERS 30% OF THE SITE'S OPEN SPACE WHEN VIEWED DIRECTLY FROM ABOVE ESTIMATED CANOPY SIZE SHALL BE DETERMINED USING THE CITY OF PETALUMA'S LIST OF APPROVED TREES.

SO AGAIN, THAT, THAT IS RECOMMENDED TO REPLACE WHAT IS IN YOUR VERSION OF THE STANDARDS THAT SAYS THAT THEY SHALL BE PLANTED AT NO LESS THAN ONE TREE PER 500 SQUARE FEET.

SO, AND AGAIN, MY APOLOGIES.

UM, HOW, HOW DOES THIS BALANCE WITH THE SOLAR COMPONENT? SO THIS IS FOR OPEN SPACE, I APOLOGIZE, YOU'VE GOT THE PARKING LOT PICTURE, SO IT'S CONFUSING, BUT, UM, THIS IS, THIS IS SPECIFICALLY RELATING TO OPEN SPACE.

SO, UM, NOT PARKING LOT.

SO, UM, THE,

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SO THE PARKING LOT HAS A TREE REQUIREMENT AND THAT'S 50% COVERAGE, BUT FOR THE OPEN SPACE ON THE REST OF THE SITE, IT'S 30% CANOPY COVERAGE.

I BELIEVE MR. LELAND'S CONCERN, WHICH, WHICH IS IS CORRECT, IS THAT THE, THE PREVIOUS RATIO OF ONE TREE PER 500 SQUARE FEET WOULD HAVE NOT NECESSARILY PRODUCED TREE CANOPY.

IF, IF THEY PLANTED A SMALLER TREE, WE WOULDN'T GET THE CANOPY THAT WOULD CONTRIBUTE TO THE OVERALL PERCENTAGE GOAL OF, UM, THAT I BELIEVE IS, IS, UH, LOOKING AT ABOUT 30% TREE CANOPY CITYWIDE.

SO BY, BY CHANGING THE LANGUAGE, AND WE DO INTRODUCE IT IN THE RECOMMENDATION AS A MODIFICATION TO THE ORDINANCE, UH, FOR YOU TO CONSIDER THIS EVENING, WE WILL CHANGE THAT FROM A RATIO OF TREAT A SQUARE FEET TO, UM, A PERCENTAGE OF CANOPY MEASURE.

CAN I ASK THE OTHER, UM, GRAPHIC HERE IS ABOUT, UM, UH, UTILITIES YEAH.

AREA UTILITIES AND AREN'T ALL AREA UTILITIES UNDERGROUND IN A DEVELOPMENT? THEY SHOULD BE AND ANY, ANYTHING FRONTING THE PROPERTY WOULD BE RELOCATED EXCEPT FOR THE HIGH POWER LINE.

IN, IN THEORY, YES.

AND IDEALLY, YES, AND IN MOST LIKE 99% OF THE PROJECTS, YES.

BUT, UM, THERE, THIS WAS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WAS IN SPAR AND WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION LIKE, DO WE NEED THIS BECAUSE GARY, THE UTILITY SHALL BE UNDERGROUND.

UM, BUT WE LEFT IT IN BECAUSE JUST IN CASE IT WAS SORT OF LIKE, DO WE TAKE OUT SOMETHING THAT COULD BE POTENTIALLY IMPORTANT? I DON'T KNOW.

I HAVE REALLY, I I, I'M VERY SENSITIVE TO THIS 'CAUSE WHERE I LIVE, THERE'S A LOT OF TREE POWER LINE CONFLICTS AND IT'S, IT'S JUST SO UGLY WHEN IT HAPPENS.

SO I JUST, TRUE, BUT NEVER IN, AND I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE BEAT UP NEW NEW DEVELOPMENT TO GET EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT.

OUR STAFF IS STRONG AT THAT AND IS OUR, UH, ALL UTILITIES MUST BE UNDERGROUND, EVEN EXISTING FRONTAGES UTILITIES TO BE UNDER.

AND ISN'T THAT AN EXISTING YES.

ADEQUATE ORDINANCE? YES.

UM, AND, AND LIKE I SAID, THEN THIS WOULDN'T APPLY IF THE UTILITIES ARE UNDERGROUND.

THIS DOESN'T APPLY.

SO BECAUSE THERE'S NO POWER LINE ABOVE.

BUT SAY YOU GET A DEVELOPER WHO IS REHABILITATING SOME EXISTING PROPERTY AND TURNING IT INTO AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THEY GET DIFFERENT DENSITY BONUS WAIVERS AND THEY COME OUT AND SAY, IF YOU MAKE US DO THIS RIGHT NOW, IT MAKES OUR PROJECT FINANCIALLY INFEASIBLE AND THEREFORE WE'RE WAIVING THIS STANDARD OF REQUIRING THE UNDERGROUNDING.

AND MAYBE THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR AGREES TO THAT.

AND THEN YOU HAVE POWER LINES THAT ARE STILL THERE.

SO IT DOES HAPPEN, , IT'S A COMPLICATED LIFE WE LIVE, BUT IF YOU WANT TO, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE US REMOVE IT, WE COULD REMOVE IT.

OH YEAH.

SO MY QUESTION WAS WHETHER WE HAD ADEQUATE PROTECTION, AND I THINK I'M HEARING WE DON'T HAVE ADEQUATE PROTECTION WHICH WARRANTS INCREASED PROTECTION.

YEAH, AND I MEAN IT'S, THE STATE IS CONTINUING, CONTINUING TO INTRODUCE NEW AND APPROVED NEW HOUSING LAWS THAT DO WHITTLE AWAY AT LOCAL JURISDICTIONAL, UM, AUTHORITIES.

AND THERE WERE NEW HOUSING LAWS THAT CAME OUT THIS LAST YEAR.

THEY'RE EXPECTING NEW ONES.

THERE WERE SEVERAL TWO YEAR BILLS THAT THEY'RE EXPECTING TO GET PASSED IN 2024.

UM, SO, AND THAT, THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT'S NOT, LIKE WHEN YOU SAY WHAT IS A QUALIFYING RESIDENTIAL PROJECT, UM, ORIGINALLY WE WERE REFERRING TO SB THREE 30 AND SB 30 OF FIVE AND WE TOOK THOSE OUT IN ANTICIPATION THAT THE STATE'S ON THE PATH THAT IT IS.

UM, AND THAT WE DON'T KNOW NECESSARILY WHAT THEY'RE GONNA THROW AT US.

SO YEAH, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE COVER ALL THE BASES.

UM, THANKS FOR BRINGING UP THE QUALIFYING, UM, UM, QUALIFYING PROJECT.

AND MY QUESTION ON THE QUALIFYING PROJECT IS, UH, SEVERAL, UM, IS, UM, THREE 30 ALWAYS, I MEAN, CITY OF PETALUMA HAVE A 15%, UH, INCLUSIONARY HOUSING ORDINANCE.

AND IT DOES, DOES THAT MEAN IT'S A QUALIFYING PROJECT? 15% JUST 'CAUSE THEY APPLIED AT THREE 30 MAKES 'EM QUALIFYING.

SO A A THREE 30 QUALIFYING PROJECT IS, IS GOING TO BE BASED ON, UH, THE PROJECT COMPLYING WITH OBJECTIVE STANDARDS.

THERE'S NOT AT AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING REQUIREMENT FOR THREE 30.

SO YOU COULD SOMETHING THE LOCAL, YOU COULD HAVE A MARKET RATE PROJECT WHERE THEY WOULD,

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THEY WOULD INCORPORATE THE MINIMUM AMOUNT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO MEET THE INCLUSIONARY HOUSING ORDINANCE AS IT'S CURRENTLY ESTABLISHED AND, AND NOT GO BEYOND THAT.

UM, AND, UM, SOME OTHER, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU SAY, THINK OF, THINK OF THE THINGS THAT COULD GO WRONG.

UM, WOULD AN A DU FALL AS A QUALIFYING PROJECT? UH, NO, BECAUSE ADUS ARE, UM, MINISTERIAL ONLY PURSUANT TO STATE LAW AND THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS TAKEN.

ISN'T SB 35 MINISTERIAL BY STATE LAW? WELL, IT IS, BUT SB 35 HAS, I BELIEVE THERE'S A MINIMUM NUMBER OF UNITS AND THEN A MINIMUM PERCENTAGE OF AFFORDABILITY OF AFFORDABLE UNITS.

RIGHT.

BUT IT'S THE STATE LAW THAT MAKES IT A QUALIFYING PROJECT.

AND STATE LAW STATE GOVERNS ON ADUS AS WELL.

BUT WE ACTUALLY HAVE AN A DU CODE WHERE ADUS ARE DEFINED AND IDENTIFIED AND PUT UNDER A SPECIFIC CODE WHERE THERE'S REGULATIONS FOR THEM.

DOES THAT PROHIBIT THEM FROM SAYING THEY'RE A QUALIFYING PROJECT? I, IN, IN MY, AS IN MY OPINION AS AN, AS A, IF I PUT ON MY CURRENT PLANNER HAT, 'CAUSE I DO BOTH LONG RANGE AND CURRENT PLANNING, I WOULD, I WOULD NOT INTERPRET A CODE FOR QUALIFYING RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS THAT THESE STANDARDS TO APPLY TO AN A DU.

IT, IT, I MEAN, PLANNING IS A, IS AN INTERESTING FIELD 'CAUSE YOU GET DIFFERENT OPINIONS.

BUT IF THERE'S AN A D IF THERE WAS NO A DU CODE AND, AND AT ALL THAT DIDN'T DEFINE ADS AND SAY WHAT ADSS WERE AND PROVIDE REGULATIONS FOR THEM, I MIGHT FEEL DIFFERENTLY.

BUT THERE'S VERY SPECIFICALLY AN A DU CODE THAT HAS SPECIFIC REGULATIONS FOR THEM.

SO I WOULD SAY NO.

MY OTHER QUESTION I SENT IN WAS ON, UM, UM, SONOMA HOUSING LAND TRUST HAS PUT TOGETHER, UM, A PROJECT AND IT'S, UM, A ROW HOUSING, IT'S FIVE ROW HOUSING.

AND THEY DID IT, UM, AS A NONPROFIT.

UH, THEY DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T PROPOSED ON, I'M NOT SURE IF IT WAS PROPOSED UNDER 35 OR NOT, BUT IT, I IT'S FIVE SINGLE ROW ROW HOUSES PREBUILT.

UM, AND WOULD THAT BE A QUALIFYING PROJECT IF THEY WERE NOT, IF THEY HAD FILED THE SB THREE 30 APPLICATION OR IF THEY FELL UNDER SOME OTHER STATE LAW THAT REQUIRED US TO REVIEW THEM UNDER OBJECTIVE STANDARDS OR, UM, AS A MINISTERIAL PROJECT UNDER SB 35, THEN THEY WOULD FALL UNDER OBJECTIVE STANDARDS.

OTHERWISE, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY WOULD STILL BE SUBJECT TO SPAR, IN WHICH CASE THE NORMAL DISCRETIONARY PROCESS.

AND I THINK THEY AVOIDED SPAR.

AND EVERY PROJECT.

SO IF THEY, IF SOMEBODY'S TRYING TO DEVELOP A SITE AND THEY DON'T HAVE, FOR SOME REASON CONCESSIONS AND WAIVERS TO DEAL WITH ANYTHING THAT IS PROHIBITING THE DENSITY THAT THEY'RE ALLOWED OR THEY JUST WANNA DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, THEY CAN OPT TO GO THROUGH THE SPAR PROCESS.

SO IF THEY DON'T WANT TO FOLLOW OBJECTIVE STANDARDS FOR SOME REASON, THERE IS THAT OPTION TO GO THROUGH.

SPAR.

THIS WILL BE MY QUESTION LATER, BUT WHY WOULD ANYBODY CHOOSE TO GO THROUGH SPAR? YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? YOU KNOW, IF YOU, YOUR OUTCOMES CAN ONLY BE WORSE GOING THROUGH SPAR.

HOW ABOUT IF THEY WANT VINYL WINDOWS? YEAH.

WELL THERE'S ACTUALLY, AND THAT LENDS TO THE NEXT QUESTION OF LIKE, IF THESE ARE STANDARDS WE APPLY TO, YOU KNOW, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR AREN'T THEY APPLIED EVERYWHERE TO EVERYTHING? YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT'S, IT'S A SLIPPERY SLOPE HERE.

PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS, WE MADE SURE THAT ANY, UH, PROJECTS THAT, UM, THAT THE CITY IS AWARE OF, UM, A WAS AWARE OF THIS PROCESS.

AND MR. MAYOR, UH, JUST SLIPPERY SLOPE INDEED.

UM, YOU KNOW, FOR ALL THE GREAT, UH, OBJECTIVES AND GOALS THAT THE STATE LAW, UM, THAT CONTINUES TO, TO BE PASSED OVER THE, THE LAST HANDFUL OF YEARS, UM, WE ARE ACTUALLY STARTING TO SEE SOME PROJECTS, UH, OPT FOR THE DISCRETIONARY REVIEW.

UM, AND SO, UH, IT IS A LITTLE BIT OF AN INTERESTING TURN, UM, THAT WE'RE STARTING TO SEE.

I HAVE SEEN PEOPLE AVOID SB 35 TO JOIN SB THREE 30, WHICH DOESN'T SEEM LOGICAL EITHER, BUT HAS, YOU KNOW, SPECIFIC ADVANTAGES FOR TROUBLESOME PROJECTS.

I'M SUBSTITUTING A A NEW QUESTION FOR WHAT I HAD.

SO, BUT, UH, IN, IN LIGHT OF WHAT, UH, BRIAN SAID, I WONDERED IF, UH, THESE, UH, PROJECTS THAT ARE OPTING FOR SPAR ARE MORE AFFORDABLE OR MORE MARKET RATE.

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA? I I DON'T HAVE A A A SENSE OF THAT.

UM, I THINK WHAT WE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE EMBARKED ON THIS PROCESS AND YOU KNOW, AS WE STARTED TO, UM, YOU KNOW, PUT A DRAFT, UH, SET OF OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS OUT THERE, STARTED TALKING TO STAKEHOLDERS, UH, STARTED THE

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UM, SO ANY OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE, UM, CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH ONE OF THE STREAMLINING, UM, APPLICATIONS, UH, THIS WOULDN'T APPLY.

UM, AND SO THERE'S SORT OF THIS CLEAR DELINEATION, UM, AND I BELIEVE EVEN CHECKING TODAY, JUST TO MAKE SURE THERE, THERE WASN'T ANY NEW APPLICATIONS THAT CAME THROUGH.

SO THIS IS REALLY LOOKING FORWARD.

UM, SO IT WOULDN'T HAVE AN IMPACT ON ANY, UM, PROJECTS, UM, THAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING, UM, TO DEVELOPERS ABOUT, REGARDING QUALIFYING IT AS A REMODELING, QUALIFYING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SEEING AIDEN V AND REDEVELOP NOW AND ARE THEY SUBJECT TO THIS? THAT'S A, A GREAT QUESTION AND ONE THAT HADN'T BEEN RAISED QUITE FRANKLY.

UM, I, I BELIEVE THAT HAD THE, THE EDEN REMODEL IS, IS, UH, IN SUBSTANTIAL CONFORMANCE TO THE APPROVED PROJECT.

UM, SO IN SOME CASES THEY WERE REPLACING LIKE FOR LIKE IN OTHER CASES, UM, THEY'RE MODIFYING A BIT, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO FIND THEM IN SUBSTANTIAL CONFORMANCE, UM, BECAUSE PERHAPS THE OTHER PROJECT WHICH WAS DISCRETIONARY DIDN'T SPECIFICALLY REGULATE PARTICULAR MATERIALS.

I THINK THAT THE ARGUMENT COULD BE MADE THAT IF A PROJECT SUCH AS EDEN CAME FORWARD WITH SUBSTANTIAL MODIFICATIONS THAT THE LOCAL JURISDICTION MIGHT DETERMINE, WOULD REQUIRE SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW, THAT THEY COULD SAY, WELL THEN WE WOULD CHOOSE TO PROPOSE AS AN SB 35 PROJECT EVEN THOUGH WE'RE CURRENTLY CONSTRUCTED.

THEN, THEN I THINK WE WOULD HAVE TO WORK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO VET THAT.

I'M NOT, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY STATE, UH, LEGISLATIVE GUIDANCE ON THIS BEING APPLICABLE TO REMODELS, BUT IT IS A GOOD QUESTION.

WHEN THEY CONVERTED THE, UH, COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL FIRST FLOOR, DOES THAT OPEN THEM UP TO THIS OR ANY OTHER TROUBLE? NO, WE DIDN'T SEE IT THAT WAY BECAUSE THE A DU ORDINANCE ALLOWS, UM, FOR MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS TO, TO CONSTRUCT ADUS OUT OF EXISTING SPACE, UM, BASED UPON THE UNIT COUNT.

AND SO WE SAW THAT THAT CONVERSION AS BEING, UH, PERMITTED.

DID EDEN'S REMODEL GO THROUGH SPAR? DID THE A DU REMODEL, DID EDEN, UH, HOUSING'S, UH, NO PROJECT THAT WASN'T SUBJECT? NO, IT WAS FOUND TO BE IN SUBSTANTIAL CONFORMANCE.

OKAY, WE'RE BACK.

SO OPEN SPACE, UM, THERE IS A, UH, OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT IN, UM, THE CHAPTER OR ARTICLE, EXCUSE ME, ARTICLE FOUR LAND USE TABLES.

HOWEVER, UM, IT ENCOURAGES USABLE COMMON OPEN SPACE, AND THAT IS NOT AN OBJECTIVE STANDARD.

UM, ANYTHING USES, ENCOURAGE, SHOULD, UM, YOU KNOW, RECOMMENDS THOSE ARE NOT OBJECTIVES.

SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE TOOK THAT LANGUAGE AND MADE IT OBJECTIVE AND SAID THAT AT LEAST 25 SQUARE FEET PER UNIT, UM, OF OPEN SPACE REQUIRED SHALL BE USED FOR A COMMON, UM, OPEN SPACE AREA, WHICH WILL HAVE A MINIMUM LENGTH OF 10 FEET ON ANY SIDE.

UM, SO EACH UNIT, SO IF IT'S A HUNDRED SQUARE FEET IS REQUIRED PER UNIT, 25 SQUARE FEET PER UNIT, UM, WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BE A USABLE AREA.

SO NOT SOMETHING WHERE THERE'S SHRUBS AND BARK, BUT ACTUAL LIKE, UM, WHETHER IT'S PLAY AREA OR WHETHER IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, FIELD THAT PEOPLE CAN WALK ON OR, UM, TRAIL OR A SITTING AREA.

SO, SO THIS ONE RAISES A QUESTION IN MY MIND.

UM, I I THINK WE'VE HAVE, I BELIEVE TWO SB THREE 30 APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY SB 35 APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED.

DO THESE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS APPLY TO APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN SUBMITTED, ARE ONLY PROSPECTIVELY? NO, BECAUSE WHEN THE APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED, IT VESTS AT THE CURRENT REGULATIONS.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

ALSO, I WANTED TO COMMENT ON OPEN SPACE THAT THE HOUSING ELEMENT DOES DIRECT US TO EVALUATE OUR OPEN SPACE STANDARDS AND, UM, LOOK, I BELIEVE AT, AT REVISING THEM DOWNWARD, UH, TO BE MORE SUPPORTIVE OF MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT.

SO THAT WILL BE COMING FORWARD, UM, IF NOT BEFORE THE GENERAL PLAN UPDATE AS PART OF THE GENERAL PLAN UPDATE AND CODIFICATION OF,

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OF THE GENERAL PLAN.

AND COUNCILMAN BARNACLE, THANK YOU.

UM, TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE, WHAT THE, UM, I DON'T WANNA SAY THE PURPOSE, BUT SOME OF, SOME OF THIS DOESN'T.

UH, I I, THE PURPOSE OF THE, OF THE, LIKE THE GRASS AROUND THE, UM, USABLE OPEN SPACE STARTS TO ESCAPE ME SOMETIMES.

SO THIS IS COMMON, USABLE OPEN SPACE THAT IS AVAILABLE TO EVERYBODY WHO WOULD LIVE IN THIS, IN THIS, UM, PROJECT, RIGHT? THAT IS, YES.

UM, AND IS THERE ANY, UM, DO WE TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ANY, UH, LIKE ADJACENT OPEN SPACES AND I'LL, I'M GONNA RE-ASK THIS QUESTION WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT TOT LOTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT TOO.

UM, BUT I THINK PART OF, SO, UM, YEAH, GO AHEAD.

SO THE TOTAL OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT IS IN THE ARTICLE FOUR LAND USE TABLE.

SO SOME ZONES REQUIRE, LIKE IF IT'S A MULTIFAMILY MIXED USE, IT'S LIKE 30 SQUARE FEET PER UNIT.

AND IF IT'S LIKE, UM, I WANNA SAY, IS IT R ONE THAT HAS LIKE 500 SQUARE FEET OF OPEN SPACE PER UNIT? THERE'S, THERE'S SOME, THERE'S A VARIETY DEPENDING ON THE ZONE.

SO THE, THE AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE REQUIRED IS BASED ON THOSE LAND USE TABLES.

THIS IS JUST ABOUT MAKING SURE THERE'S A COMMON USABLE OPEN SPACE THAT'S A SHARED OPEN OUTDOOR AREA.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

AND THERE'S A, AN ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENT FOR A PLAY AREA FOR, UM, DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE MORE THAN 25 UNITS AS WELL, A PLAY AREA OR A FITNESS OR RECREATIONAL AREA.

I FORGET THE EXACT LANGUAGE TO LOOK.

ALL RIGHT.

LIGHTING.

UM, SO LIGHTING IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS, UM, DIFFICULT TO QUANTIFY OR, WELL, IT'S NOT, BUT UM, IT RARELY IS.

SO WE DID TAKE THE DOWNCAST, UM, LIGHTING TO, UM, ACTUALLY MAKE IT CLEAR WHAT IS ALLOWABLE.

UM, SO THERE'S TWO STANDARDS THAT YOU'LL SEE IN THERE.

UM, THERE IS THE TEMPERATURE OF THE LIGHTING, SO THAT'S THE WARMTH.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE SCALE, IT KIND OF SHOWS YOU LIKE, YOU KNOW, THAT SORT OF YELLOW LIGHT VERSUS, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GET INTO THAT SUPER BRIGHT WHITE KIND OF STARK, IT'S A LITTLE BIT INTENSE.

AND THEN ALSO, UM, THE, UM, BRIGHTNESS.

SO YOU HAVE TEMPERATURE AND BRIGHTNESS, AND SO WE'VE BOTH, WE'VE GOT BOTH STANDARDS IN THERE.

SO IT LOOKS AT HOW YOU CAN, A LOT OF TIMES WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN A, IN A GUIDELINE IS LIGHTING THAT IS NO BRIGHTER THAN NECESSARY.

SO THIS IS HOW WE'VE QUANTIFIED IT, IS BY PUTTING A MAXIMUM ON, UM, THE COLOR, UM, TEMPERATURE AND A MAXIMUM ON THE BRIGHTNESS.

UM, ESTABLISHING HOW DO YOU MAKE SURE THAT YOUR BUILDING ISN'T THIS HUGE MASS OF BLANK WALL THAT EVOKES SORT OF YOUR, UM, 1950S SOVIET SOCIALIST CEMENT BUILDING LOOK.

UM, AND THEN IN TERMS OF REQUIRING, UM, BIKE PATHS, SO IN THE, UM, RIVER ENHANCEMENT AND ACCESS PLAN, UM, THERE IS LANGUAGE ABOUT REQUIRING, UM, BIKE PATHS TO BE BUILT ALONG THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE DESIGNATED AS, UM, FUTURE LOCATIONS OF A PATH.

UM, AND THIS MAP IS THE GENERAL PLAN MAP THAT IS CURRENTLY EXISTING UNTIL WE ADOPT OUR NEW ONE.

UM, THAT WILL, THAT SHOWS YOU WHERE THE, UM, WHERE THE BIKE PATHS ARE PLANNED.

SO IF THE PARCEL WHERE THEY'RE DOING THE DEVELOPMENT IS ALONG THAT PATHWAY, UM, THE PROPERTY IS REQUIRED TO DEVELOP THE BIKE PATH ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF THAT PROPERTY NOW, UM, SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THE LOVELY PATH TO NOWHERE.

UM, IF THERE'S NO PATH UP OR DOWN RIVER FROM THE, FROM THAT PROPERTY, THEN THEY'RE REQUIRED TO GO BACK TO THE SIDEWALK WITH THAT PATH SO THAT IT'S PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE.

SO THAT IS A, SO THAT IT'S WORKING TOWARDS THAT GOAL OF CREATING THE CITYWIDE, UM, PATHWAY SYSTEM ALONG OUR CREEKS AND RIVERS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED.

QUESTIONS ON THAT? OKAY, MOVING ON.

NOW WE GET TO THE BUILDING STUFF.

SO, UM, THAT WAS REALLY ABOUT SITE DESIGN, UM, SPECIFICS.

AND, UM, WE ORIGINALLY LOOKED AT A MORE TRADITIONAL MEANS OF,

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SO HOW DO YOU GET AWAY FROM THAT? AND WE CAME UP WITH THIS SORT OF, UM, YOU KNOW, WE LOOKED AT ALL THE DIFFERENT OTHER JURISDICTIONS, WHAT OTHER DESIGN GUIDELINES I WERE, WE CAME UP WITH THIS LIST AND OUR DEV OUR ARCHITECTS WERE NOT IN FAVOR OF IT.

AND SO THEY SAID, LET US, LET US TAKE A CRACK AT THIS AND KIND OF COME UP WITH SOME IDEAS, AND THIS IS REALLY REFLECTIVE OF IT.

AND SO THE IDEA IS THAT THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING, UM, NEEDS TO HAVE ON THE PRIMARY FACADE A 30% CHANGE IN THE WALL SURFACE, AND ON THE OTHER SURFACES A 20% CHANGE IN THE WALL SURFACE TO BREAK UP THE MASSING.

BUT THERE'S A VARIETY OF OPTIONS FOR HOW THAT CAN BE ACHIEVED.

SO, UM, IT ONE WAY IS THROUGH EITHER PROJECTING OR RECESSED BALCONIES.

UM, AND THEN THE OTHER OPTION IS THAT IT COULD BE THROUGH BOX OR BAY WINDOWS OR, AND IT COULD BE A COMBINATION, ONE OF, OR A COMBINATION OF A COURTYARD.

SO THE COURTYARD DESIGN IS ANOTHER OPTION.

UM, THERE'S ALSO THE IDEA OF DOING STEP BACKS OR PROJECTIONS, UM, IS ANOTHER OPTION.

UM, FRONT PORCHES.

SO SOME OF THE SMALLER DEVELOPMENTS WHERE YOU MIGHT HAVE THOSE ROW HOUSES SIMPLY BY ADDING THE PORCH, YOU GIVE IT THAT BREAKING UP OF THE FRONT SPACE.

UM, HAVING A COVERED WALKWAY, AN EIGHT FOOT WIDE COVERED WALKWAY PROVIDES AN, UM, OF THAT, OF THAT MASSING BREAK.

UM, SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE OPTIONS THAT WE OFFERED.

IT COULD BE A COMBINATION.

IT DOES NOT, AGAIN, PROHIBIT SOMETHING LIKE A JULIET BALCONY.

IT DOESN'T PROHIBIT PUTTING, YOU KNOW, WINDOW BOXES OR ANY OF THOSE OTHER FEATURES.

BUT A LOT OF THOSE ARE SHORTER TERM FEATURES.

AND THE IDEA IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO BREAK UP THAT MASSING OF THE BUILDING AND THAT'S WHAT THAT STANDARD IS ABOUT.

UM, THE OTHER THING THAT WE LOOKED ABOUT AT IS THE TRANSPARENCY AT STREET LEVEL.

SO, UM, ACTUAL VISUAL CONNECTIVITY, UM, THROUGH WINDOWS, UM, 25% IF YOU'RE MEASURING THE LINEAR LENGTH OF THE BUILDING.

SO IF IT'S A HUNDRED FEET LONG ON THE FRONTAGE, THEN THERE WOULD NEED TO BE 25 FEET THAT HAS A WINDOW.

SO THERE'S VISUAL CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THE STREET.

UM, AND, UM, SO WINDOWS AGAIN.

UM, SO NOW WE'RE AT WINDOWS AGAIN.

UM, THIS, THIS IS ONE THAT KIND OF CAME OUT AND IN, UH, THIS WAS RECOMMENDED TO SORT OF CREATE THAT ARTICULATION.

UM, AND AGAIN, BREAK UP THOSE SMOOTH WALLS WAS TO HAVE THE WINDOWS, IF THEY'RE IN STUCCO, WHETHER IT'S CEMENT, PLASTER OR EFIS, THAT THEY MUST BE RECESSED A MINIMUM OF TWO INCHES, UM, AND SHALL NOT BE TRIMMED OUT.

SO THAT WAS ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION THAT KIND OF, UM, BOUNCED AROUND A LITTLE BIT AND I BELIEVE LANDED IN, WHICH IS WHY YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT.

AND THEN, UM, THE VINYL WINDOWS, UM, BASED ON THE FEEDBACK WE'VE RECEIVED, WE'RE PROPOSING, UM, SOME MODIFICATION TO THIS.

BUT, UM, AGAIN, THERE, THERE ARE SOME STRONG FEELINGS ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS.

WE LEFT IT TO PLANNING COMMISSION.

UM, AND SO, UM, DID YOU WANNA? NO.

UM, SO THE, THE VINYL WINDOWS, UM, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S, THERE'S SOME STRONG OPINIONS ON BOTH SIDES.

THEY ARE VERY AFFORDABLE.

UM, THEY DO HAVE ENERGY VALUE.

THERE'S ALSO, UM, CONCERN ABOUT THEIR VISUAL APPEARANCE AS WELL AS THEIR ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS THAT WE RECEIVED.

UM, AND SO ESSENTIALLY IT, IT DID, IT KIND OF, IT WAS ONE OF THOSE THAT SORT OF WAS IN AND OUT AND, AND OUT, AND IT LANDED AS, AS IN FOR THAT PROHIBITION.

SO, UM, AGAIN, THAT WAS AT THE DIRECTION OF PLANNING COMMISSION.

WE'RE HAPPY TO REMOVE IT IF IT'S THE WILL OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

UM, HAPPY TO HAVE FEEDBACK.

ANYWHERE BETWEEN 10 TO 30% MORE THAN A VINYL WINDOW.

UM, HAVE WE QUANTIFIED ANY OF THE, UM, ISSUES? I MEAN, THERE, THERE'S, UH, ALLEGATIONS THAT IT'S A, UH, UM, IT'S, THERE'S A COST UPGRADE TO THE NEXT CLASS OF WINDOW.

DID ANYBODY QUANTIFY? WE, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FIND THOSE DATA.

THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE EASIER, UM, FACTORS TO QUANTIFY.

AND IT DOES SEEM LIKE VINYL WINDOWS, WELL, ANY WINDOW IS GOING TO COST

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SO THERE, THERE IS A, A NOTABLE COST INCREASE AS WE MOVE FROM VINYL TO A FIBERGLASS TO A CLAD WINDOW OF SOME SORT.

UM, SOME OF THE OTHER FACTORS THOUGH, ARE LESS, UH, LESS EASY TO, TO QUANTIFY AND CREATE OBJECTIVE STANDARDS FOR.

WE RECENTLY HAD, UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED, UH, SPIRIT LIVING LOT FIVE, THE RESIDENTIAL CARE FACILITY FOR THE ELDERLY OVER IN THE RIVERFRONT MASTER PLAN AREA ON THE CENTRAL GREEN.

AND THERE WAS DISCUSSION DURING THAT PUBLIC HEARING ABOUT PROHIBITING VINYL WINDOWS, WHICH WERE PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT.

THE APPLICANT RESPONDED THAT THERE ARE, UM, VINYL WINDOWS BEING PRODUCED TODAY THAT DO MEET THE, THE LONGEVITY OF A FIBERGLASS WINDOW, UM, AND SO FORTH, AND CAN BE PRODUCED USING A MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE, UH, PRODUCTION MANNER FOR THAT PROJECT.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION SETTLED ON A CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT A VINYL WINDOW OPTION THAT IS DOCUMENTED TO BE PRODUCED IN AN ENVIRONMENTALLY RESPONSIBLE MANNER DEMONSTRATES INCREASED LONGEVITY AND MAY EXHIBIT REDUCED FLAMMABILITY, UM, CONSISTENT WITH A NON VINYL PRODUCT MAY BE APPROVED AT THE PLANNING, AT PLANNING MANAGER'S DISCRETION.

THE, THE CHALLENGE WE HAVE, BECAUSE WE CAN'T CONDITION PROJECTS THAT ARE SUBJECT TO OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS, IS WE NEED TO WORK TO QUANTIFY, UM, THOSE AREAS OF ENVIRONMENTALLY RESPONSIBLE, UH, PRODUCTION MANNER INCREASED LONGEVITY CONSISTENT WITH FIBERGLASS, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THERE WE'RE ACHIEVING A 20 TO 30 YEAR LIFESPAN AS OPPOSED TO A 10 YEAR LIFESPAN FOR, UH, VINYL WINDOWS.

AND THEN IF, IF FLAMMABILITY IS AN ISSUE, WE WOULD LIKE TO, TO DO THAT RESEARCH.

WE STARTED DOING THAT RESEARCH.

PART OF THE PROBLEM WE'RE RUNNING INTO IS MUCH OF THE DATA ARE INDUSTRY DRIVEN, AND SO WE'RE HAVING A HARD TIME FINDING THAT SORT OF RELIABLE FACT-BASED SOURCE THAT WOULD HELP US UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE OBJECTIVE STANDARDS MIGHT LOOK LIKE FOR VINYL WINDOWS.

SO THAT'S REALLY WHERE WE ARE, UM, TODAY.

WITH REGARD TO THE VINYL WINDOW OR THE VINYL MATERIALS, GENERALLY WINDOWS IN PARTICULAR, UH, DO YOU TRACK, UM, PRO OUR OWN DATA PROJECT APPROVALS? UH, IT'S, MY RECOLLECTION FROM MY TIME ON PLANNING COMMISSION WAS THAT, UM, THERE WERE SEVERAL, UM, STRONG VOICES, UM, ON, ON COMMISSION AT THAT TIME, UM, NOT, UH, IN FAVOR OF VINYL OF THAT ERA.

AND SO, UM, IT, IT SEEMED THAT INDISCRETIONARY PROJECTS, THEY WOULD PUSH HARD, AND I DON'T RECALL IF WE WERE APPROVING VINYL.

DO DO YOU HAVE ANY TRACK RECORD OF HOW THE DISCRETIONARY RECORD IS? NO.

WE, WE DIDN'T REVIEW THAT FOR THIS PROJECT, AND I DON'T BELIEVE WE'VE MAINTAINED DATA WITH REGARD TO WINDOW TYPE.

WE WOULD, UM, WE WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND PULL, UM, PROJECTS THAT HAD BEEN APPROVED AND, AND REVIEW.

UM, LIKELY THEY'RE, THEY'RE BUILDING PERMIT.

UM, THE STAFF REPORT MENTIONED THAT, UM, UM, I THINK, UH, A BUILDER FOR ONE OF THESE PRODUCTS COULD REQUEST, UH, TO USE VINYL AND, UM, BUT WOULD THAT, IF THEY WANTED TO REQUEST SIMPLY TO USE VINYL, WOULD THEY HAVE TO BE HAVING A FULL SPA OR WHATEVER? UH, SO, SO A PROJECT THAT WAS, UM, ELIGIBLE FOR DENSITY BONUS COULD RECEIVE WAIVERS OR CONCESSIONS TO DESIGN OR DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.

SO, SO A PROJECT THAT WOULD HAVE, SAY, MINIMUM OF 20%, UM, AFFORDABLE, UH, UNITS WOULD RECEIVE, I BELIEVE IT'S ONE CONCESSION OR WAIVER, AND COULD APPLY THAT TO, TO, UM, ELI TO ELIMINATE THE PROHIBITION ON VINYL AND USE VINYL INSTEAD.

UH, IT WOULD BE, I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT FOR THE CITY BECAUSE THEN THE BURDEN WOULD BE ON THE CITY TO DENY THAT CONCESSION OR WAIVER, AND IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT FOR US TO DENY IT.

UM, SO IN THOSE INSTANCES, YES, PROJECTS COULD WAIVE OUT OF, UM, A, THE VINYL WINDOW PROHIBITION, COUNCILMAN MAYOR.

NOW, UM, IS IT A POSSIBILITY THAT WE JUST STRIKE THE WORD VINYL BECAUSE WE DID THAT FOR THE, THE SHADE, I BELIEVE? HMM, SURE.

THE, AND, AND IT WAS, IT WAS A SIMILAR, WHEN WE, WITH THE, WITH REGARD TO THE WINDOW SHADES, WE WERE REALLY LOOKING AT WHAT THEY CALL A SOLAR SHADE

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SYSTEM.

SO I THINK WE'VE GOT IT IN ANOTHER IMAGE.

YOU CAN SEE IN THIS IMAGE HERE, THESE ACTUAL STRUCTURES THAT ARE OFTENTIMES METAL, OR IT CAN BE OTHER MATERIAL THAT WILL CAST A SHADOW TO, UH, CREATE A SHADING EFFECT ON WINDOWS.

THE REASON THAT WE MOVE, WE REMOVED THAT, UM, STANDARD WAS BECAUSE, AGAIN, FOR THE SAME REASON, IT WAS, THOSE ARE VERY COMPLEX CALCULATIONS IN ORDER TO ESTABLISH, SAY, A MINIMUM SIZE ORIENTATION TO, UH, SOLAR GAIN AND SO FORTH.

AND WE JUST WEREN'T ABLE TO, UH, FOR THIS STAGE OF THE PROJECT TO PROVIDE THOSE DETAILS.

SO WHEN, WHEN WE STRUCK THE WINDOW SHADING, THAT'S WHAT WE WERE, WE WERE REFERRING TO, NOT TO LIKE A VINYL, UH, WINDOW SHADE THAT YOU WOULD PULL DOWN ON THE INTERIOR OF THE HOUSE, OR EVEN FOR THAT MATTER, ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE HOUSE, UM, OR, OR RESIDENTIAL UNIT.

SO A BIT OF A DIFFERENCE THERE BETWEEN THE TWO.

UM, ONE, ONE OPTION WOULD BE, UH, IF THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER, UM, MODIFYING THAT TO CONTINUE TO PROHIBIT VINYL MATERIALS ON A BUILDING FACADE SUCH AS SIDING, UM, YOU KNOW, GUTTERS, EAVES, THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, BUT ACCEPT WINDOWS.

SO WE WOULD PROHIBIT VINYL MATERIALS EXCEPT THAT VINYL WINDOWS WOULD BE ALLOWED AND, AND THAT WOULD ALLOW THEN THE VINYL WINDOWS TO BE ABLE TO BE UTILIZED.

UM, ADDITIONALLY, YOU COULD, YOU COULD CHOOSE TO, UH, TAKE ACTION ON THE ORDINANCE THIS EVENING.

WE ARE BRINGING BACK SOME SPRING 2024 AMENDMENTS THAT, UH, WE ANTICIPATE COMING BEFORE, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION IN APRIL, AND THEN ON TO COUNCIL IN MAY OR JUNE, AND WE COULD GO AND DO SOME ADDITIONAL RESEARCH AND BRING BACK AN AMENDMENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

CONTINUE THE PRESENTATION.

UM, QUESTION.

YEAH, I, I, I'M WONDERING IF, IF, UM, NO, NEVERMIND, SORRY.

IT'S JUST THERE FOR SOME USE, LIKE MAYBE THERE'S A ROOFTOP BAR AS THEIR MIXED USE ACTIVITY, WHO KNOWS? UM, THERE IS A REQUIREMENT THAT 10% OF THE OCCUPIED AREA WOULD HAVE A ROOFTOP PLANTER.

I WANTED TO TAKE ONE STEP BACK.

COUNCIL MEMBER HEALY, THIS WOULD BE AN EXAMPLE OF WHERE YOU WOULD ACHIEVE THAT GROUND FLOOR ACTIVATION IN A RESIDENTIAL PROJECT.

SO YOU DO HAVE, YOU HAVE THESE RESIDENTIAL UNITS THAT ARE FRONTING, PRESUMABLY FRONTING THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, PROVIDING ACCESS TO IT.

THIS, UM, FOR A PROJECT THAT WAS, SAY IN THE R FOUR ZONING DISTRICT, 100% MULTIFAMILY WOULD BE COMPLYING WITH THAT GROUND FLOOR ACTIVATION REQUIREMENT.

SO JUST LOOKING IN INTO PEOPLE'S FRONT WINDOWS COUNT.

WELL, AND THAT'S WHERE THEN WHERE YOU WOULD WANNA USE MAYBE A OD OR, OR SOME OTHER STRATEGY TO CREATE A, A SENSE OF PRIVACY IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.

SO ARTICULATING THE ENTRYWAY IS ANOTHER DESIGN ELEMENT.

UM, AND AGAIN, WE DID A CHOOSE YOUR OWN ADVENTURE WITH THIS.

SO YOU ONLY HAVE TO SELECT THREE OF THESE, UM, ALTHOUGH OBVIOUSLY MORE ARE DEMONSTRATED IN THIS VISUAL IMAGE.

UM, BUT THE IDEA IS YOU COULD USE ANY COMBINATION OF A MINIMUM OF THREE, WHETHER IT'S EITHER AN ACCENT MATERIAL, ACCENT LIGHTING, AN ENTRY ARCH, UM, A FACADE INSET, UM, THE TRANSOM WINDOWS UP ON TOP OR HAVING A RECESS DOORWAY.

UM, AND THE IDEA IS THAT THAT IS A MEANS OF, UM, IF YOU TAKE A COMBINATION OF THREE OF THOSE, THEN YOU CREATE AN ENTRYWAY.

WE DID ADD ANOTHER ONE DURING, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION THAT WAS AT THE REQUEST, WHICH WAS CHANGE IN THE PAVING SURFACE AT THE GROUND LEVEL.

SO, UM, THOSE ARE ALL OPTIONS FOR ARTICULATING ENTRYWAY, , UM, AND CORNER TREATMENTS.

SO, UM, LET ME JUST GET TO THE, SINCE OH, CORNER, HOLD ON.

SO CORNER TREATMENTS.

UM, SO AT A STREET IN, UM, INTERSECTION SHEHA, AT LEAST ONE OF THE FOLLOWING, AND AGAIN, IT'S A CHOOSE YOUR OWN ADVENTURE.

SO WE LEFT SIX DIFFERENT OPTIONS, WHETHER IT'S A TURRET, A VARIATION IN THE ROOF HEIGHT, UM, A BUILDING RECESS, UM, SO A CHANGE IN THE BUILDING MATERIAL, A LITTLE CORNER PLAZA OR A PARK SPACE, OR A CORNER ENTRYWAY.

SO, UM, THOSE ARE BUILDING CORNERS.

AND THEN, UM, THIS IS ACTUALLY THE ROOFTOP OCCUPIED AREA.

SO IF THE ROOFTOP IS GOING TO BE OCCUPIED, BUT IS NOT PART OF THE REQUIRED OPEN SPACE,

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HOWEVER, IF THE ROOFTOP IS GOING TO BE WHERE THEY'RE HAVING THEIR OUTDOOR OPEN SPACE, THAT'S THAT SHARED COMMON, USABLE OPEN SPACE, THEN IT'S 30% THAT IS REQUIRED TO BE, UM, ROOFTOP PLANTERS.

AND, UM, IT ALSO, UM, IF IT IS OCCUPIED AND USABLE OUTDOOR OPEN SPACE, THERE'S ALSO A REQUIREMENT FOR, UM, SHADING AND SEATING.

SO THAT'S, AND I THINK, OKAY, BACK TO ANDREW.

BICYCLE PARKING PROVIDES ADDITIONAL STANDARDS REQUIRING SUFFICIENT PARKING.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE THROUGH WITH THE DEEP DIVES ON THE, UM, SPECIFIC, UH, DESIGN STANDARDS.

UM, IN TERMS OF, OF SQA.

THE PROJECT WAS REVIEWED AND, UH, STAFF HAVE FOUND THE FOLLOWING EXEMPTIONS APPLICABLE SECTION 1 5 0 6 1 SUB B, THE COMMON SENSE EXEMPTION IN THAT, UH, THE DISCRETIONARY DECISION BEFORE YOU, UM, THERE'S NO POSSIBILITY THAT THE, UH, ACTIVITY MAY HAVE A SIGNIFICANT EFFECT ON THE ENVIRONMENT.

ALSO, A SECTION 1 5 3 0 8 ACTIONS BY REGULATORY AGENCIES THAT WOULD PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT.

UM, THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS DO SEEK TO, UH, SUPPORT, UM, BICYCLE RIDERSHIP, PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY, CONNECTIVITY, ACCESS, UM, AND REDUCE, GENERALLY REDUCE RELIANCE ON AUTOMOBILES.

UM, PRESERVE AND ENHANCE THE EXISTING AESTHETICS OF PETALUMA.

UH, PROHIBIT THE PLANTING OF INVASIVE SPECIES, UM, AND USE OF ARTIFICIAL TURF, AS WELL AS, UM, REQUIRE THE, THE, UH, UM, IMPLEMENTATION OF AN INTEGRATED PEST MANAGEMENT PROGRAM.

AND THEN FINALLY, THAT THEY INCLUDE THE PROVISION FOR THE INCLUSION OF USABLE OPEN SPACE, ENSURING THAT NEW QUALIFYING RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS WOULD HAVE SUFFICIENT RECREATIONAL AREAS.

GENERAL PLAN CONFORMANCE, WHICH IS ONE OF THE FINDINGS REQUIRED TO BE MADE, UH, THE PROJECT WOULD CONFORM WITH THE RECENTLY ADOPTED HOUSING ELEMENT, ESPECIALLY IN THE AREAS OF, OF GOAL ONE, POLICY 1.4, GOAL TWO, POLICIES 2.2 AND 2.3.

THEN, UH, CONFORMANCE WITH THE EXISTING GENERAL PLAN IN A VARIETY OF AREAS.

I'M JUST HIGHLIGHTING SEVERAL THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

UH, LAND USE GOALS, PETALUMA RIVER GOALS FOR DEVELOPMENT ADJACENT TO THE RIVER AND PROTECTION OF THE RIVER, UH, GOALS AND POLICIES RELATED TO TREE PRESERVATION, AND, UM, ADVANCEMENT OF THE CITY'S EFFORTS TO EDUCATE AND INFORM ABOUT TREES.

AND THEN, UM, GOALS AND POLICIES RELATED TO CIRCULATION IN TERMS OF COMPLIANCE OR, UM, THE, THE, UH, OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS AS SUPPLEMENTAL REGULATIONS TO SUPPORT, UH, PUBLIC, UM, HEALTH, SAFETY, WELFARE NE NECESSITY AND CONVENIENCE.

UH, WE FIND THAT THE, UM, SECTION 7.120, UM, HELPS ACHIEVE OUTCOMES THAT ARE CURRENTLY ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH SECTION 24.050 E, WHICH IS SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW REQUIREMENTS AND FINDINGS THAT, UM, SUBSECTION D THREE WOULD, UH, CODIFY PARKING LOADING FACILITIES DESIGN STANDARDS THAT WERE NOT PREVIOUSLY ADOPTED.

THE FENCES SECTION SUPPLEMENTS, CHAPTER 13 FENCING REGULATIONS, UM, AND SECTIONS D SIX AND SEVEN PROVIDE MORE DETAILED AND STANDARD, UM, OBJECTIVE STANDARDS FOR DESIGN AND PLACEMENT OF LANDSCAPING, THUS, UH, ENHANCING CHAPTER 14 REGULATIONS.

AND THEN FINALLY, UM, THE BUILDING DESIGN SECTION REGULATES BUILDING DESIGN AND SUPPLEMENTS SECTION 24.050, AGAIN, THE, UM, SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW FINDINGS.

AND SO WITH THAT, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE COUNCIL INTRODUCE IRREGULAR ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CITY OF PETALUMA IMPLEMENTING ZONING ORDINANCE TO ADD SECTION 7.120, ESTABLISHING OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR QUALIFYING RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS, AND FIND THAT THE PROJECT IS EXEMPT FROM SQA REVIEW PURSUANT TO SQA GUIDELINES.

SECTION 1 5 0 6 1, SUBSECTION B THREE, AND SECTION 1 5 3 8 STAFF ALSO RECOMMENDS, UH, AT A MINIMUM THE FOLLOWING MODIFICATIONS, UM, IN, UH, SUBSECTION B APPLICABILITY THE ADDITIONAL TEXT OF UNLESS EXPRESSLY

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PROHIBITED BY OR IN CONFLICT WITH THE STANDARDS IN THIS OR ANOTHER APPLICABLE REGULATORY PLANNER CODE, ADDITIONAL ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN FEATURES ARE ALLOWABLE.

AND THEN ADDITIONALLY MODIFYING, UM, SECTION D SUBSECTION SEVEN E FOR TREE PLANTING.

UH, SUBSECTION ONE TREES SHALL BE PLANTED SO THAT THE AVERAGE ESTIMATED CANOPY DIAMETER AFTER 15 YEARS OF AGE COVERS 30% OF THE SITE'S OPEN SPACE WHEN VIEWED DIRECTLY FROM ABOVE ESTIMATED CANOPY SIZE SHALL BE DETERMINED USING THE CITY OF PETALUMA'S LIST OF APPROVED TREES.

AND THEN IN TERMS OF NEXT STEPS, UH, WE WOULD SEE THE CONTINUING INTEGRATION OF, UM, ADOPTION OF VARIOUS POLICY DOCUMENTS AS THEY COME FORWARD.

SO, UH, THIS REFLECTS INTEGRATION OF SOME OF THE PROGRAM OF THE SIX CYCLE HOUSING ELEMENT.

WE WOULD LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO INTEGRATE OBJECTIVE STANDARDS FROM THE BLUEPRINT, FROM THE TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE, UPDATE, THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN, PARKING ORDINANCE, THE BUILDING REACH CODE, AND SO FORTH.

AND THEN THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS, UM, COULD BE EXTENDED UPON THROUGH AMENDMENT BY, BY CREATING OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR HISTORIC DISTRICTS, OR, UM, LOOKING MORE CLOSELY AT, UM, OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS THAT MAY BE USED, UH, MAYBE UNIQUE TO DISTRICTS THAT ARE ESTABLISHED BY PLACE OR A LAND USE TYPE, SUCH AS A RESIDENTIAL OR A COMMERCIAL NOTE.

AND SO WITH THAT, THAT COMPLETES, UH, STAFF'S PRESENTATION.

WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

ANYONE.

SORRY.

UM, I'M ACTUALLY GONNA ASK A QUESTION ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WASN'T INCLUDED.

UM, WOULD WE BE WITHIN OUR RIGHTS TO REQUIRE ELEVATORS IN RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS OVER THREE STORIES YOU THINK? WELL, I MEAN, MY OPINION OF THAT IS THAT WOULD BE IN THE BUILDING CODE.

THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD FALL UNDER, I MEAN, 'CAUSE THE CALIFORNIA BUILDING CODE HAS REGULATIONS FOR WHEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN ELEVATOR.

SO THE IDEA IS THAT, AND, AND AGAIN, THIS COMES BACK TO THE EV PARKING, SO SAY, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UM, WHEN I TOOK MY, ONE OF OUR DRAFTS TO JEROME, I SAID, HERE'S SOME STUFF THAT WE'RE PLANNING ON PUTTING IN.

HE'S LIKE, WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS INNOVATIVE TWO YEARS AGO, BUT STATE SURPASSED THAT NOW.

SO, UM, WE HAD TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT PUTTING STUFF IN OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS THAT MAY AT SOME POINT, UM, CONFLICT WITH SOMETHING THAT'S IN THE BUILDING CODE.

SO I WOULD SAY THAT THAT WOULD BE A CONVERSATION I WOULD WANNA HAVE WITH JEROME, IF YOU'RE WANTING TO PUT THAT IN, THAT'S WHERE THAT WOULD LIVE, WOULDNT BE IN THE DESIGN GUIDELINES.

THIS IS THE FIRST READING TONIGHT.

COULD YOU DO THE RESEARCH ON THAT AND BRING BACK A MORE SOLID ANSWER FOR THE SECOND READING? HAPPY TO BRING THAT BACK, BUT I, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE IN OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS.

IT WOULD BE SOMETHING IN THE BUILDING CODE.

SO I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WOULD GO IN THE ORDINANCE.

BUT ARE THOSE MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE? MM-HMM.

, THERE ARE DIFFERENT CODES.

I MEAN, IT, IT JUST SEEMS THAT WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE COMING IN WITH SIX STORY APARTMENT BLOCKS, SOVIET STYLE, AS YOU SAY, UM, UNDER SB 35 OR SB THREE 30, AND MAKING THEM UNUSABLE FOR A LARGE PART OF THE POPULATION.

YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE AN AGING POPULATION IN THIS TOWN AND, YOU KNOW, HAULING GROCERIES UP SIX FLOORS OR FURNITURE UP SIX FLOORS, OR JUST OUR AGING BODIES UP SIX FLOORS, UM, IS BECOMING A CHALLENGE FOR FOLKS.

IT'S A REAL ISSUE.

CON, UH, JUST TO SUMMARIZE THIS, I, I DON'T BELIEVE THE TOPIC OF WALKABILITY WITHIN A BUILDING CAME UP DURING THE STAKEHOLDER DISCUSSION OR PLANNING COMMISSION.

SO, I, I'D APPRECIATE IT IF YOU COULD RESEARCH THAT AND BRING BACK SOMETHING MORE SOLID FOR THE SECOND, I BELIEVE COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, ELEVATORS ARE REQUIRED OVER THREE STORIES.

SO THE, THE FIRE AND BUILDING CODE WILL KICK IN OVER THREE STORIES.

THAT'S WHY YOU'LL OFTEN SEE THE, WHAT THEY CALL THE GARDEN STYLE APARTMENTS THAT ONLY GO UP TO THREE STORIES IS BECAUSE OVER THREE STORIES, THEN YOU ARE REQUIRED TO, TO, UH, IMPLEMENT AN ELEVATOR.

UM, WHAT'S INTERESTING, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT I ASKED THAT QUESTION WHEN MID PEN WAS COMING FORWARD WITH A REQUEST FOR MONEY FOR THEIR PROJECT ACROSS FROM THE LIBRARY, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE FIVE STORIES.

AND I BELIEVE THEY SAID THEY WERE NOT GONNA HAVE AN ELEVATOR.

CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

WELL, I'LL, I'LL CHECK INTO THAT THEN, BECAUSE THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD SURPRISE ME.

SO LET ME, LET ME REVIEW THAT.

JUST TO

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SO, UH, TO COUNCIL MEMBER HEALY'S POINT, IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK INTO, UM, AND COME BACK WITH.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND THEN, AND THEN THE SECOND IS MORE, MORE ON THE NATURE OF A COMMENT THAN A QUESTION, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE AS A COUNCIL AND THIS COMMUNITY SPEND A LOT OF TIME, UM, COMING UP WITH OUR TOP COUNCIL GOALS, THE THINGS WE WANNA ACHIEVE FOR THE COMMUNITY.

UM, AND QUITE FRANKLY, THIS HAS NEVER BEEN ON A COUNCIL GOALS LIST.

AND IT, IT'S A LITTLE, IT, IT, IT, IT'S KIND OF ODD FOR ME TO SEE THIS SNEAK IN THE SIDE DOOR AND JUMP AHEAD OF ALL THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN DECLARED COUNSEL PRIORITIES.

AND I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW OR WHY THAT HAPPENED HERE.

UM, BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING TO BE SENSITIVE STAFF SHOULD BE MORE SENSITIVE TO GOING FORWARD, BECAUSE THIS LOOKS LIKE THERE'S HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF STAFF HOURS INVOLVED.

UM, AND, UM, IT'S A, IT IS A VERY COMPREHENSIVE EFFORT.

I'M NOT CRITICIZING THAT, BUT AGAIN, THIS WAS NEVER IDENTIFIED AS A COUNCIL PRIORITY, AND, AND YET HERE IT IS.

SO THAT, THAT'S MY ONLY COMMENT.

I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND TO THAT COMMENT BECAUSE IT, IT WAS A EXTRAORDINARY AMOUNT OF, OF EFFORT.

THERE WAS, UM, THE COUNCIL GOAL NUMBER 2,213 FROM THE 2123, UM, GOALS SESSION THAT, THAT DID IDENTIFY TO ADOPT OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS AND THEN ALSO THE HOUSING ELEMENT.

BUT, BUT IT EVER, DID IT EVER MAKE THE TOP 10 ADOPTED GOALS? I DON'T THINK IT MADE THE TOP 10 PRIORITIES.

BUT THIS WAS, IT WAS WORKING OFF OF THOSE GOALS PREVIOUSLY THOUGH.

UM, THE OTHER THING TOO IS, IS WE HAVE THIS GAP.

AND, AND SO, YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS WE DON'T HAVE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS THAN PROJECTS COMING FORWARD AS SB 35, SB THREE 30 PROJECTS, WE, WE REALLY LACK THAT ABILITY TO GET SOME OF WHAT WE WANT WHEN IT COMES TO BUILDING DESIGN.

WE'RE PRETTY LIMITED.

I'M NOT SAYING IT'S NOT, IT IS A BAD THING THAT WE'RE DOING IT, BUT, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR, UM, OUR APPETITE EXISTS, THE STAFF BANDWIDTH TO ACTUALLY ACHIEVE THINGS.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE MAY HAVE HAD 200 THINGS ON THAT LIST, BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA ACHIEVE ALL 200 OF THOSE.

AND COUNCIL MEMBER, I'LL JUST ADD TOO, AND ANDREW, PLEASE, LEMME KNOW IF I'M WRONG, BUT WASN'T THERE GRANT FUNDING TO, UH, FOR PLANNING TO ACCOMPLISH THIS? RIGHT.

AND POINT NOTED, DEFINITELY COUNCIL MEMBER HEALEY THAT IT WASN'T ON THE TOP 10, BUT I THINK THERE WAS EXPLICITLY A GRANT THAT CAME TO COUNCIL A COUPLE YEARS AGO, UH, TO CREATE THIS OBJECTIVE DESIGN ORDINANCE.

UM, SO THAT'S WHERE THE HOURS CAME FROM.

YEAH, THAT IS TRUE.

THE SB TWO GRANT THAT WAS RECEIVED FUNDED, UM, THE PROJECT, AND I GUESS I FORGOT ABOUT IT BECAUSE IN DECEMBER WHEN PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED TO COUNCIL, WE, WE FULFILLED THE REQUIREMENTS OF THAT GRANT.

AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO, UM, TO RECEIVE THE FINAL PAYMENT ON THAT GRANT.

UH, WHILE WANTING TO, UH, SUPPORT STAFF'S, UH, FABULOUS WORK ON THIS, UM, I KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHERE COUNCIL MEMBER HEALY'S COMING FROM IN THAT WHAT WE SAID IS TOP 10 CAN'T BE ACHIEVED BECAUSE OTHER WORK IS, UM, EQUALLY IMPORTANT, BUT LESS PRIORITIZED, SHALL WE SAY.

AND IF WE RECEIVE A GRANT, UH, I MEAN, I, I LOVE IT WHEN WE GO GET OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY, THAT'S THE BEST THING WE CAN DO.

BUT IT, IF THE SAME STAFF, THAT SAME LIMITED RESOURCE USES THAT MONEY, UH, WE'VE SAVED MONEY, BUT WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN MORE DONE.

AND SO I, I LIKE GETTING A GRANT AND GETTING MORE ACHIEVED.

SO I MEAN, I, I'M NOT SURE THAT'S THE BEST DEFENSE ON, UM, THAT, UM, BUT I THINK WE DO HAVE A GAP HERE.

AND, UM, MAYBE THIS IS THE MOMENT WHEN WE ASK THE PUBLIC IF THEY HAVE ANY COMMENT ON THIS, UH, BUT FIRST WE'LL GO TO COUNCIL MEMBER CATER THOMPSON.

UM, I WANNA GO BACK TO THE VINYL SIGHTING SO THAT THAT WOULD BE PROHIBITED.

AND WHAT ABOUT VINYL FENCES? 'CAUSE YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT FENCES EARLIER, SO THAT WOULD NOT BE PART OF THIS? OR COULD THOSE BE PROHIBITED? THEY, THEY ARE PROHIBITED.

KNOW, I PERSONALLY DON'T, WHEN I LOOK AT THE DOWNTOWN AND ALL THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING ON THE BOULEVARD, I THINK TEXTURE IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

AND THEN I JUST WANT TO COMMENT ON THE DESIGNS WITH ALL THESE SBS COMING, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF PROJECTS COMING THROUGH AND I THINK WE DO NEED TO HAVE SOME DESIGN STANDARDS BECAUSE IF WE WAIT ANOTHER FIVE YEARS, WE'RE JUST, WE'RE JUST OUT OF THE LOOP.

AND THEN WE'RE GONNA END UP WITH BUILDINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, DON'T HAVE AN IN, YOU KNOW, RECESS FOR WINDOWS.

SO IT JUST LOOKS LIKE THIS JUST FLAT AREA.

AND, YOU

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AND THAT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, PART OF WHAT THIS IS BRINGING, UM, IN IS A LITTLE BIT OF TEXTURE INSTEAD OF JUST FLAT BUILDINGS, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY COULD ACTUALLY DO WITHOUT THESE DESIGN STANDARDS.

SO I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT, AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT THE TOP 10, BUT SOMETIMES WE NEED TO BE FLEXIBLE AND IT'S FOR THE LONG TERM.

COUNCIL MEMBER HEALEY.

YEAH, AND, AND THIS IS KIND OF IN THE NATURE OF IT, A COMMENT ON A DIFFERENT SUBJECT TOO, BUT, UM, A LOT OF THE GRAPHICS WE WERE LOOKING AT, THE DRAWINGS WE WERE LOOKING AT IS, IS REALLY KIND OF THE, UM, CORE DOWNTOWN TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT WITH, UH, BUILDINGS COMING UP TO THE SIDEWALK LINE.

AND THERE ARE PARTS OF TOWN THAT HAVEN'T DEVELOPED THAT WAY AND PROBABLY DON'T NEED TO GOING FORWARD.

SO IS THIS FLEXIBLE ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE, YOU KNOW, THOSE KINDS OF DEVELOPMENTS TOO, WHERE THERE'S MAYBE MORE OF A, A FRONT YARD TYPE OF SITUATION GOING ON? SURE.

I, I BELIEVE SO.

I THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE GRAPHICS ARE, ARE MEANT TO ILLUSTRATE THE WRITTEN REGULATIONS.

SO, SO THEY'RE REALLY SUPPLEMENTAL.

I CAN'T THINK OF, OF ANY REGULATION THAT COULDN'T, UH, BE FULLY IMPLEMENTED IN A SITUATION WHERE WE WOULD HAVE, UH, A DEEPER SETBACK IN A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.

SO, I BELIEVE SO.

WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO OPEN THE, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD AND LIKE TO ASK OUR CITY CLERK IF WE'VE RECEIVED ANY COMMENT PRIOR TO MEETING.

WE DID RECEIVE ONE PUBLIC COMMENT AND IT'S POSTED ON THE WEBSITE.

WONDERFUL.

THANKS SO MUCH.

I'D LIKE TO INVITE OUR, UH, MODERATOR TO READ OUR MESSAGE.

YEP.

MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING IN PERSON SHOULD BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARDS TO THE CLERK'S DESK IF THEY'VE NOT ALREADY DONE SO.

SPEAKERS ARE REMINDED TO BE RESPECTFUL IN THEIR COMMENTS.

AND THAT THIS MEETING IS BEING TRANSLATED.

PLEASE PAUSE BETWEEN SENTENCES FOR TRANSLATION.

A COUNTDOWN WILL APPEAR FOR THE CONVENIENCE OF THE SPEAKER AND THE VIEWERS.

AND, UH, NOT SEEING ANYBODY RUSHING TO GET CARDS, I WILL ANNOUNCE THAT I HAVE TWO CARDS WITH ME NOW, AND THOSE LOOK LIKE THEY'LL BE OUR TWO SPEAKERS FOR THE EVENING.

SO FIRST SPEAKER WOULD BE CALLUM WEEKS AND THE SECOND SPEAKER, DAVE ALDEN.

I THINK MY COMMENTS WILL PROBABLY BE BRIEF SINCE THIS IS PROBABLY THE THIRD OR FOURTH MEETING I'VE BEEN TOO ON OBJECTIVE SIGN STANDARDS.

SO YES, YOU HAVE BEEN VERY THOROUGH AND I DO APPRECIATE THE ATTENTION TO AVOIDING SOVIET STYLE BLOCK DEVELOPMENTS.

I THINK WE'RE ALL VERY GRATEFUL FOR THAT.

BUT, UH, YEAH, I, I JUST WANTED TO, TO ADD MY VOICE OF SUPPORT OR OUR VOICE OF SUPPORT TO THIS.

UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S CERTAINLY IMPORTANT THAT WE FOSTER A CERTAIN DEGREE OF PREDICTABILITY IN FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS.

I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF HUBBUB AS OF LATE, AS I'M SURE YOU ALL ARE AWARE AROUND DESIGN STANDARDS.

AND SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE GET THIS IN PLACE THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND, AND BE IN SOMEWHAT, UH, I THINK GOOD ASSUREDNESS THAT WE KNOW WHAT, WHAT TYPE OF BUILDING WE'RE GONNA GET.

SO, UH, I THANK YOU SO MUCH, ESPECIALLY THANK YOU AGAIN TO THE STAFF'S.

BEEN A LOT OF WORK AND, UH, REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

AND DAVE ALDEN WILL BE OUR LAST SPEAKER OF THE ITEM.

UH, DAVE ALDEN, ONCE AGAIN, SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF URBAN CHAT.

UH, I PERSONALLY WAS NOT INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS.

I WISH, I WISH I HAD BEEN.

IT WAS FASCINATING TO LISTEN TO WHAT, UH, HAS BEEN ACCOMPLISHED HERE.

UH, ALTHOUGH SOME OTHER PEOPLE FROM URBAN CHAT WERE PRESENT, UH, THEY COULD NOT BE HERE TONIGHT.

UH, SO I'M NOT GONNA EXPRESS ANY OPINION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, BUT I AM GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHERE, UH, OBJECTIVE DESIGN DESIGN STANDARDS MIGHT GO IN THE FUTURE AS THE HOUSING CRISIS WORSENS, WHICH I THINK IS LIKELY.

UH, THERE IS A CONCERN AMONG MANY FOLKS, INCLUDING SOME STAFF HERE, THAT WE WILL SEE ODS EXPEND EXTENDED TO OTHER TYPES OF HOUSING, OTHER TYPES OF BUILDINGS.

AND THE QUESTION IS WHETHER WHAT WE HAVE DONE HERE IS ADEQUATE AND APPROPRIATE FOR THAT EXPANSION.

I KNOW OF OTHER CITIES WHO HAVE DONE ODS APPROACHES THAT ARE MORE EXPANSIVE.

UH, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF FOLKS WITHIN URBAN CHAT WHO ARE REACHING OUT TO THOSE CITIES, TRYING TO ARRANGE FORUMS THROUGH OUR KNOW BEFORE YOU GROW EFFORT TO TALK ABOUT, UH, WHAT OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE THAT MAY BE SOMEWHAT BROADER AND MORE USEFUL IF, YOU KNOW, AS THE FUTURE COMES AT US QUICKER THAN WE EVER, EVER WOULD EVER HOPE.

SO AGAIN, NOT EXPRESSING AN OPINION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER ABOUT THIS EVENING, JUST TALKING ABOUT WHERE URBAN CHAT MIGHT BE WEIGHING IN, UH, AT NEXT STEPS.

WITH THAT, THAT CLOSES PUBLIC COMMENT, I'M GONNA BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL FOR EITHER LAST QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

AND, UM,

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I KNOW I DID HAVE A QUESTION.

IF WE APPROVE, UH, THE, UH, ELIMINATION OF VINYL WINDOWS, WE'LL, DO WE KNOW IF WE'LL BE THE FIRST CITY TO BAN VINYL WINDOWS? SHOULD WE BE READY FOR A PRESS RELEASE OR PRE, YOU KNOW, THE PRESS COMING TO SEE US ABOUT THIS? WE, WE, UH, HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO FIND ANY OTHER CITY THAT HAS PROHIBITED VINYL WINDOWS.

THANK, OKAY.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER , JUST WANTED TO BE SURE.

YOU HAD MENTIONED EARLIER WHEN YOU, UH, WERE TALKING ABOUT, UH, EV CHARGERS, UM, BECAUSE ON MY LIST TOO WAS THAT I, AND ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE TALKING SO MUCH ABOUT, UH, ELECTRIC BIKE CHARGERS, I DON'T KNOW, I, I, I, I THOUGHT THE NUMBERS WERE TOO LOW FOR THE NUMBER OF EV ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGERS.

I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THEY WERE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

GOOD.

UM, THERE ARE SEVERAL OPEN, UH, ISSUES THAT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE BROUGHT UP THIS EVENING, AND I'M WONDERING IF WE WANT TO HAVE A DIAL IF ANY COUNCIL MEMBER WANTS TO LEAD OR ADVOCATE FOR ONE OF THEM.

UH, UM, I'LL COME BACK TO THE EV ONE AND I'LL HELP, UH, YOU WITH THAT ONE.

AND, UH, I'D LIKE TO ASK, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLE TO WEIGH IN.

UM, I WANTED TO BRING UP, UH, REALLY KIND OF JUST FOCUS ON TWO THINGS FOR THAT ARE ON MY MIND.

UM, ONE IS THE REQUIREMENT FOR A TOT LOT.

I THINK WE SHOULD, UM, EXEMPT TOT LOTS IF THEY'RE WITHIN A QUARTER MILE OF A PARK.

I THINK PART OF THE, THE PURPOSE OF MULTIFAMILY HOUSING IS TO PROMOTE MORE ACTIVITY IN THE, IN THE PUBLIC REALM.

AND, UM, I THINK THAT THE MID PEN PROJECT THAT COUNCIL MEMBER HEALY JUST TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM KENNELWORTH PARK.

UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY NEED TO HAVE A SEPARATE, UM, PLAY AREA THERE.

'CAUSE IT, IT ULTIMATELY, IT JUST, I FEEL LIKE IT TAKES UP SPACE THAT COULD BE USED FOR SOMETHING, UM, MORE VALUABLE, LIKE, UH, MORE BIKE PARKING OR, UM, MORE VEHICLE PARKING.

AND I, I FEEL THE SAME WAY ABOUT THE, SOME OF THE LANDSCAPING, UM, LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN PARKING LOTS AS WELL, THAT, UM, THEY, THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY PROVIDING A TREE AND IT DOESN'T SPECIFY ANYTHING ABOUT STORM WATER.

AND I JUST, UM, THEY FEEL A LITTLE ONEROUS.

UM, BUT THE OTHER, SO IN ADDITION TO THE, TO LOTS, RIGHT? I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.

THE OTHER ONE THAT, UM, I'M A LITTLE PERPLEXED BY IS SECTION SEVEN LANDSCAPING.

UH, NUMBER TWO B.

UM, AND IN PARTICULAR, IT'S A REQUIREMENT THAT LIKE 50%, MY THING, JUST MY COMPUTER JUST TIMED OUT FOR A SECOND, SO I'M TRYING TO GET BACK TO IT, BUT, UM, WAS A REQUIREMENT THAT LIKE 50% OF, UH, PROBABLY BE EXACTLY WHERE IT IS.

SORRY, SO I DON'T HAVE TO RIGHT.

IF YOU REFERENCE IT, WE CAN BRING IT UP ON SCREEN HERE.

OH YEAH.

IT'S SEVEN TWO BI KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

DO YOU WANT ME TO PLEASE? SORRY.

IT'S THE, A MINIMUM OF 50% OF THE FRONT AND SIDE STREET SET BACK SURFACE AREA SHALL BE PLANTED.

CAN WE BRING UP THE CODE SECTION? YOU KNOW, THE PAGE HE'S REFERENCING? YEAH, I GOT THE WRONG PAGE.

YOU KNOW, JUST SORT OF THIS UNNECESSARY PLANTING.

SO IF I, IF I TAKE THAT WHAT IT IS, IF IT'S SET BACK WELL FEET, THAT MEANS WE HAVE A SIX FOOT PATH AND A SIX FOOT PLANTED AREA.

UM, AND THAT, UH, IT DOESN'T SCREAM ACTIVATION TO ME.

UM, IN PARTICULAR, I WORRY ABOUT THINGS ALONGSIDE OF PA LIKE PATHS THAT ARE SIX FEET WHEN YOU'RE WALKING AND THEN THERE'S, UH, A LANDSCAPED AREA.

YOU WIND UP JUST STEPPING ON THAT.

AND I'M JUST IN MORE IN FAVOR OF WIDER PATHS THAN I AM OF SORT OF LANDSCAPING THAT, UM, TO BE FRANK, OFTEN IS NOT WELL MAINTAINED.

UM, SO THAT ONE, UH, JUST DOESN'T SIT WELL WITH ME.

I THINK, I DON'T KNOW, YOU COULD, UH, SPEAK TO THAT, HOW THAT PLAYS OUT, BUT LIKE EVEN, YOU KNOW, I WAS LOOKING AT THE MID PEN PROJECT THAT HEALY WAS, OR COUNCIL MEMBER HEALY WAS JUST REFERENCING.

UM, AND THAT SORT OF HAS LIKE SOME OF THE RENDERINGS OF THAT PROJECT HAVE EXACTLY WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT WHERE IT'S LIKE, UM,

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UM, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S TWO TO THREE FEET MAYBE, UM, AND A NARROW SIDEWALK.

AND, UM, IT JUST FEELS LIKE WE SHOULD BE, UM, PROMOTING WIDER SIDEWALKS AND NOT, UM, LANDSCAPING THAT'S NOT GONNA REALLY SERVE A MEANINGFUL PURPOSE.

UH, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT ON SCREEN NOW.

B TWO, A MINIMUM OF 50% OF THE FRONT AND SIDE STREET SETBACKS SURFACING SHALL BE PLANTED.

DO WE KNOW WHAT THOSE SET ARE THE SETBACKS FAIRLY CONSTANT? AND DO WE, DO WE KNOW THE RANGE OF THEM? UM, IT CAN BE ANYTHING FROM LIKE, NO SETBACK IS REQUIRED AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ANYTHING THAT'S A 20 FOOT SETBACK, BUT, UM, I SEE.

YEAH, I THINK THEY'RE MORE LIKE 10 FEET OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT.

UM, AND IT RANGES DEPENDING ON THE ZONE.

'CAUSE SETBACKS ARE BASED ON THAT, AGAIN, THAT ARTICLE FOR, UM, LAND USE TABLE STANDARDS, UM, THE REASON THAT IT'S IN THERE IS BECAUSE THE, UM, THE VALUE OF THE GREENERY IS AN AESTHETIC VALUE.

IT'S A SOFTENING OF THE BUILDING THAT SOFTENS IT BETWEEN THE STARK SIDEWALK, THE CONCRETE, AND THE BUILDING TO KIND OF CREATE THAT TRANSITION.

SO, UM, THAT'S WHY IT'S REQUIRED.

UM, AND I THINK THERE, THERE, THERE WAS A PRETTY ROBUST DISCUSSION ON THIS, AND I, IT MUST HAVE BEEN AT PAC 'CAUSE I THINK THAT, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER BARTLE BROUGHT IT UP AT THAT POINT AS WELL.

UM, AND SO I, I THINK IT JUST DEPENDS ON, CAN I ASK, AND THESE ARE FOR STREET, STREET SETBACKS, SO THESE ARE, ONE WOULD ASSUME WALKABLE AREAS, STREET SETBACKS.

AND WOULD WE, DO WE HAVE A REQUIREMENT FOR SIDEWALKS ON ALL STREET FRONTAGES? SO, SO THIS, SO THE PUBLIC SIDEWALK WOULD BE BETWEEN, SO FROM THE CURB TO WHERE THE END OF THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY IS.

THERE'S, SO WHETHER IT'S A FIVE FOOT OR 10 FOOT REQUIREMENT FOR OR EIGHT FEET, UM, REQUIREMENT, THERE'S A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY THAT'S LIKE, THIS IS THE PUBLIC REALM.

THIS, SO THE SIDEWALK IS IN THE PUBLIC REALM? YEAH.

THIS IS WHERE IT HAS TO BE PUBLIC.

THIS IS WHERE YOU HAVE YOUR STREET TREES.

THIS IS WHERE YOU HAVE YOUR SIDEWALK AND THAT LINE WHERE THE PROPERTY LINE IS WHERE YOU SAY, OKAY, THIS IS NOW THE PUBLIC, THIS IS NOW THE PRIVATE PROPERTY LINE.

THE SETBACK GOES FROM THAT PRIVATE PROPERTY LINE UP UNTIL THAT ESSENTIALLY A NO BUILD ZONE IS YOUR SETBACK.

SO IF YOU IMAGINE, YOU KNOW, YOUR DOWNTOWN AREA, YOU HAVE A ZERO ZERO LOT LINE, NO SETBACK.

WHEREAS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE YOUR TYPICAL RANCH STYLE HOUSE THAT'S OUT IN THE SUBURBS, USUALLY YOU HAVE A 2025 FOOT SETBACK FROM THE SIDEWALK WHERE YOU HAVE THAT HUGE FRONT YARD AND YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN.

SO, UM, ALTHOUGH APPARENTLY IT'S NOT THAT FAR HERE, SO, SO I THINK THOUGH THE, ONE OF THE ISSUES WOULD BE THAT IF WE WANTED TO HAVE A WIDER SIDEWALK, THE SIDEWALK WIDTH IS GOING TO BE ESTABLISHED BY THE STREET CROSS SECTION THAT'S IN THE STREET DESIGN MANUAL.

LOOK AT THERE, THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT ARE ALLOWABLE PROJECTIONS INTO A SETBACK.

SO I THINK TO REDUCE, UM, REDUCE THE PLANTING AND CONTRIBUTE THAT TO SOMETHING ELSE, UM, WOULD MEAN THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DIP INTO THIS STREET DESIGN MANUAL TO EXPAND A SIDEWALK WIDTH.

SO I'D LIKE TO AND BUILD THAT RELATIONSHIP THERE.

EXCUSE ME IF I MAY.

COUNCIL MEMBER BARNICK, I'M JUST JASON HERE.

THE, UM, SO WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS, IS THAT THE SETBACK THAT IS BACK A SIDEWALK TO BUILDING FACE IS REQUIRED TO BE 50% LANDSCAPE.

UM, WHAT WOULD IT BE OTHER THAN THAT? WOULD IT BE FRONT PORCHES, PATIOS, WHAT ELSE IS IN THAT SETBACK? SO YEAH, IT COULD BE, IT COULD BE, UM, CONCRETE JUST PAVED.

UM, IT COULD ALSO, UM, BE RAMPS.

SO LIKE, UM, I WAS ACTUALLY JUST GOING TO, IN A PREVIOUS ONE, I HAD A REALLY CRUDE UNDESIRABLE DRAWING THAT, BUT IT DEMONSTRATED WHAT THAT 50% KIND OF, UM, LANDSCAPING WOULD LOOK LIKE.

UM, BUT YEAH, IT COULD BE, UM, IS IT DECKING? IS DECKING ALLOWED IN THE FRONT SETBACK? NO, I KNOW IT'S, I HA HAVE TO

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SO SOMETIMES PORCHES, IT JUST, AGAIN, IT DEPENDS ON, UM, I COULD PULL THAT UP.

I HAVE TO JUST LOOK FOR A MINUTE.

I, I'LL JUST SAY THAT I, I HAVE NOT SEEN MANY, LIKE FRONTAGE, BUILDING FRONTAGES THAT ARE ACTIVE, INVITING, PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED, WHERE FIFTH PERCENT OF THE SETBACK IS, IS LANDSCAPE, LIKE, AT, AT LEAST THE WAY THAT I'M IN, LIKE THE WAY THAT I SEE IT SORT OF PLAYING OUT.

AND SO IT FEELS LIKE A REQUIREMENT THAT IS GOING TO LEAVE US WITH, UM, QUITE FRANKLY, A JUST A BARRIER BETWEEN THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT IN THE PUBLIC REALM.

AND, AND WE'RE, WE'RE SORT OF ARBITRARILY PUTTING A NUMBER IN THERE INSTEAD OF LIKE TRYING TO, UM, SPEAK TO BETTER WAYS OF, OF INTEGRATING THE TWO.

SO COUNCIL MEMBER IS, IS THERE, OR ARE THERE PROJECT ELEMENTS OR DESIGN ELEMENTS THAT ARE BEING PRESENTED THIS EVENING THAT YOU'RE FEELING LIKE WE SHOULD CONSIDER, UM, SWAPPING OUT? OR IS THIS JUST ABOUT, UM, THERE WAS, YEAH, THERE WAS OTHER, THERE WAS OTHER, UM, MENTIONS, UH, OF LIKE WHEN YOU HAVE, UM, THE FRONT, UH, THE BUILDING FRONTAGE ON AN ARTERIAL AND IT TALKS ABOUT LIKE ELEVATION CHANGES BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND THE, AND THE, THE SIDEWALK OR, UH, UM, A RAISED PLANTER, UH, BETWEEN THE TWO.

UM, BUT THIS JUST IS, UM, UM, I GUESS I WOULD LIKE, WHEN I LOOK AT ATTRACTIVE BUILDING, UM, AND I LIKE WHEN I THINK ABOUT THEM, I DON'T THINK OF LIKE A FIVE FOOT PLANTED SPACE IN FRONT OF BUILDINGS THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT LIKE A, A UNIVERSAL, UM, FEATURE THAT GOES INTO A NICE, UM, LIKE WALKABLE ENVIRONMENT.

YOU KNOW, LANDSCAPING HAS ITS PLACE.

UM, I ALSO THINK THAT IT IS OVERLY PRESCRIBED AND IT COMES AT THE EXPENSE OF MORE FLEXIBLE SPACES.

UM, LIKE IF YOU HAVE A BUNCH OF DECORATIVE GRASSES, YOU DON'T GET PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, ENJOYING THEIR FRONT YARDS AS MUCH BECAUSE DECORATIVE GRASSES AREN'T GREAT FOR HAVING A PICNIC ON, AND THEY'RE NOT , THEY'RE, THEY JUST, THEY DON'T WELCOME, UH, THE INTERACTION BETWEEN THE, THE PUBLIC AND THE PRIVATE REALM, THE SEMI-PUBLIC REALM, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT, UM, LIKE FRONT YARDS ARE LIKE, WE SHOULD BE TRYING, IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE TRYING TO, UM, WE SHOULD BE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE ACTIVITY IN THE FRONT THAT IS, UH, SUITABLE FOR, UM, FOR THAT SPACE.

AND, UM, A BUNCH OF DECORATIVE GRASSES DOES NOT ENCOURAGE ACTIVITY, IN MY OPINION.

IT IS, UM, LIKE THE THING YOU DO WITH THE SPACE THAT, UM, YOU FORGOT TO, TO THINK ABOUT.

SO WHAT I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING IS LESS PASSIVE SPACE, MORE ACTIVE SPACE IN THE SETBACK.

I, I THINK SO, YEAH.

THAT'S A, IT, THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO PUT IT.

STILL HAVE TO HAVE TWO AND A HALF FEET OF LANDSCAPING, WHICH WOULD THAT LEAVE ROOM FOR A WHEELCHAIR FOR AN EXAMPLE? AM I MISUNDERSTANDING? SO CAN I ASK, IS THIS SETBACK A PUBLIC ACCESS AREA EASEMENT, OR IS IT PRIVATE SPACE? THIS IS IN THE, UH, ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, CORRECT.

UH, THANK YOU, BRIAN.

WHEN I READ ALL THE SECTIONS OF, YOU KNOW, ABOUT ACTIVATION AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT ALL MAKES SENSE.

AND THEN THIS RIGHT HERE FEELS LIKE IT'S TOTALLY COUNTERPRODUCTIVE IN ACTIVATING, UM, ACTIVATING A, A STREET EXPERIENCE.

UH, COUNCILMAN ZAKI, YOU WEIGHING IN ON THIS? YEAH, I, YEAH, TO ME, THIS, THIS ISSUE, UH, UM, KIND OF RELATES, UH, TO DAVE ALDEN'S COMMENT AS WELL.

UM, I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, DAVE WAS, UH, ASKING US NOT TO GET, UH, TO MY MIND TOO, UH, UM, TOO SPECIFIC IN WAYS THAT LIMIT OUR FLEX MIGHT LIMIT OUR FLEXIBILITY IN THE FUTURE.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S, THAT'S WHAT'S BRIAN SAYING TOO.

I I REALLY, IN ANYTHING LIKE THIS, I, I KNOW THERE ARE ISSUES, YOU KNOW, BUT, BUT I'M CONCERNED THAT, THAT, UM, WELL, I MEAN, I THINK IT WAS MENTIONED THAT IN, IN A FIVE FOOT, UH, A FIVE FOOT SETBACK, YOU'D

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SO THIS WOULD BE FROM THE BACK OF SIDEWALK TO THE, OKAY.

I'M SORRY.

THE BUILDING FACADE.

I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST FROM THE STREET.

SO I WOULD SUPPORT COUNCILMAN BARN'S SUGGESTION IN THE WAY YOU'VE WORDED IT, DIRECTOR O TO ACTIVE, I MEAN, IT'D BE ACTIVE FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PRIVATE SIDE, BUT, UM, BUT IT'S STILL ACTIVE AND IT'S STILL INVITING.

IS THAT WHERE WE'RE HEADED? UH, ANYONE COUNSEL? I, I, I, I, I AGREE WITH THAT.

I THINK ON SOME OF THESE, I'M JUST GONNA ASK FOR A QUICK STRAW POLL TO SAY INTERESTED, NOT INTERESTED, AND THEN I THINK WE'RE GONNA CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT WILL THIS NEED IN INSERTION DURING SECOND READING? YES, I THINK THAT'S RIGHT, MAYOR.

YEAH, SORRY.

SO I THINK IF WHAT YOU'RE WANTING TO DO IS KEEP IT AS A MORE FLEXIBLE AREA TO ALLOW WHATEVER TO HAPPEN, THEN WE WOULD JUST STRIKE THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE REC FOR THE LANDSCAPING BECAUSE THAT LEAVES IT OPEN.

SO WHICH LIKELY THEY'LL USE FOR YEAH.

THAT WAY THEY CAN STORM WATER IMPROVEMENT, BUT THEY CAN DO WHAT THEY WANNA DO WITH IT, AND THEN IT CAN BE AN ACTIVE SPACE OR, YOU KNOW, AND THAT, THAT WAY IT'S NOT REQUIRED TO BE LANDSCAPED COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLE.

YEAH, THAT'S, I MEAN, I THINK IF WE, IF WE LEAVE THAT OPEN, WE'LL INVITE MUCH MORE CREATIVITY FROM A DESIGN PERSPECTIVE THAN, THAN REQUIRING THAT.

SO I, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF STRIKE STRIKING THAT STR POLL ON WHO, UH, IS INTERESTED IN HAVING THAT STRUCK COMING ACROSS THE PODIUM COUNCIL MEMBER , AND NOW WE SEEM TO ALL BE FINE ON THAT.

LET'S, UH, UM, LET'S TAKE THAT AS AN ACTION TONIGHT.

AND WHEN WE, UH, PASS THIS IN A, IN A MINUTE HERE, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER BARNELL OTHER, UM, MODIFICATION INTERESTS, UH, YEAH, WOULD, I GUESS WOULD LIKE TO, UM, SEE, YOU KNOW, REMOVING THE REQUIREMENT FOR A TOT LOT IF THERE'S, UM, YOU KNOW, A, A COMPARABLE FACILITY WITHIN A QUARTER MILE.

OKAY, LET'S DO THAT ACROSS THE PODIUM POSE.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER VAR NICOLE DID PLAY AREA, OR I THINK THAT WAS THE TERM PLAY AREA, WAS DOES THAT HIT THE SATISFACTION OR YOU, UM, WAS THE OBSTACLE TO USE THE LAND BETTER OR TO ELIMINATE TODD? UH, I THINK THAT, AGAIN, GIVING MORE FLEXIBILITY.

ON BOARD THAT EVERYBODY, COUNCIL MEMBER.

NOW, AS A COMMENT, UM, I, I APPRECIATE COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLES, UM, WITH THE KENWORTH BEING ACROSS THE STREET, THAT, THAT IS A FOUR LANE INNER, YOU KNOW, WASHINGTON STREETS FOUR LANES, SO PARENTS GOTTA PACK UP AND MOVE THEIR KIDS.

AND I'M THINKING THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY COME HOME FROM THEIR A LONG DAY AT WORK OR SCHOOL AND THEY JUST WANT TO, YOU KNOW, HANG OUT IN THEIR OWN LITTLE DEVELOPMENT.

IF WE MAKE IT MORE OF A COMMUNITY WITH, UM, SOME INTERACTIVE THINGS FOR THE TODDLERS OR YOUNG CHILDREN, THE PARENT DOESN'T HAVE TO GO ACROSS FOR LANES, UH, TO GO ENJOY, YOU KNOW, A, A BIG PARK.

SO THAT'S JUST, I'M LIKE, CAN WE BE FLEXIBLE AND SAY A COMMUNITY SPACE? YEAH.

I THINK THERE WOULD STILL BE, UH, THE REQUIREMENT FOR AN OPEN SPACE.

I'M, AND I'M JUST SAYING THAT I DON'T THINK THAT WE NEED TO REQUIRE THAT THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE A TOT LOT, UM, IF THERE'S ONE THAT'S SUPER CLOSE BECAUSE, UM, THERE MAY BE A, A REAL NEED FOR A COMMUNITY SPACE THAT THEY CAN'T OTHERWISE INCLUDE BECAUSE, UM, THEY'VE GOTTA BUILD A TOT LOT.

UM, PARDON, IF WE COULD JUST MAKE SURE WE USE PLAY AREA, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE IN THE CODE, AND THAT'S WHAT WAS NOTICED UNDER IS IT SAYS PLAY AREA IS THE OFFICIAL LANGUAGE.

GOT YOU.

YES.

PLAY AREA, SORRY, THE NEW DEVELOPMENT AD AT FRIEDMAN'S SHOPPING CENTER, MID PENN, THAT DOES NOT HAVE ANY ACCESS FOR CHILDREN.

DEER CREEK.

IT'S JUST A COMMUNITY SPACE.

THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO TOT LOT, THERE'S NO PLAY AREA.

AND THEY SAID IT WAS 'CAUSE THEY HAVE THE DOG PARK THERE AND BOND PARK IS, IS CLOSE BY.

I THOUGHT THERE WAS A TOT LOT ON THAT.

NO, I ASKED AND THERE IS NO TOT LOT.

AND I GUESS THAT'S A GOOD REASON TO HAVE WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IN THESE RULES, IN THESE RULES.

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I'M, I'M ALL FOR REQUIRING, YOU KNOW, A A PLAY AREA IF WE'RE PUTTING SOMETHING IN AND THERE'S NOTHING NEARBY.

UM, BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING NEARBY, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF LEAVING OUT THE, UM, THE REALITIES OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.

YOU KNOW, I THI LIKE CASA GRANDE HOTEL, RIGHT? LIKE IF WE BUILD THAT IT TO BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UM, AND LITERALLY RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET IN WALNUT PARK IS A PLAY AREA.

LIKE, WOULD WE RATHER PUT MORE HOUSING IN THERE OR MORE, YOU KNOW, MORE PARKING OR, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAP LIKE I CAN THINK OF QUITE A FEW OTHER AMENITIES THAT IF I WERE LIVING IN THAT PLACE THAT I WOULD PROBABLY WANT OVER, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER PLAY AREA THAT IS LITERALLY REPLICATED DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET.

STAFF, THEY SEE A PATH ON THIS.

UM, I, I MEAN THAT'S UP TO THE COUNCIL TO DECIDE.

UM, I THINK THAT, I THINK THAT THE, WHAT COUNCIL WANTS IS SOME DISCRETION, AND I THINK THAT'S A COUNTER TO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE.

SO I MEAN, IF, IF THE ISSUE CAME DOWN TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOP AGAIN SAYING, OH, YOU KNOW, THIS PARK THAT YOU'RE REQUIRING, OR SORRY, THIS, THIS PLAY AREA YOU'RE REQUIRING US REDUCES OUR ABILITY TO FULFILL THE FULL DENSITY WE'RE ALLOWED ON THIS PARCEL, UM, THROUGH THEIR DENSITY BONUS, THEN THEY CAN WAIVE IT.

SO THEY COULD USE, THEY COULD SAY, THIS IS REDUCING OUR ABILITY TO HAVE THE FULL DENSITY AND THEY COULD WAIVE THAT REQUIREMENT.

HOWEVER, IF THEIR LOT IS BIG ENOUGH THAT IT DOESN'T REDUCE THAT, THEN THEY, YOU KNOW, PLAYER IS THERE.

I THINK THAT IT, UM, YEAH, I I DON'T KNOW HOW , THAT'S UP TO YOU.

HOW DO YOU WANNA MOVE FORWARD IT IF THE, IF THE, UH, TOT LOT IS WA DOES OPEN SPACE OR, UM, LANDSCAPE AREA MINIMUMS, DOES THE TOT LOT COME OUT OF THE LANDSCAPE MINIMUMS? OPEN SPACE? OPEN SPACE MINIMUM OR OPEN SPACE? I MEAN, IF WE ELIMINATE PART OF THE OPEN SPACE YEAH.

PART OF THE OPEN SPACE.

SO IT'S A, IT'S A PROGRAMMING OF THE OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT, RIGHT? UM, SO THE OPEN SPACE REMAINS THE SAME MAGNITUDE.

CITIZENS, THE PLAY AREA SHALL BE REPLACED WITH A COMMUNAL GARDEN AREA OR AN OUTDOOR RECREATIONAL AREA OF THE SAME SIZE AND DIMENSIONS.

I I THINK IT'S, IT'S, UH, FOR THE COUNCIL TO DECIDE IT'S, UM, I, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE BOTH PROS AND CONS TO IT.

SO YES, WE DO, DON'T WE? AND THERE'S NO WAY TO WAIVE IT DISCRETIONARY LATE, LATE.

AND IF YOU LEAVE IN TOT LOT NOW, YOU STAFF CAN'T WAIVE IT LATER.

I MEAN, COUNCIL CAN'T WAIVE IT.

CORRECT.

BUT THEY COULD, THEY COULD USE A CONCESSION OR A WAIVER TO, UH, TO ELIMINATE THE REQUIREMENT.

UM, THE ISSUE THAT I HAVE WITH THAT, ANDREW, AND I DON'T YOU, YOU DEAL WITH THESE SITUATIONS WAY MORE THAN I DO, IS IF I'M GIVEN A SET OF DESIGN CONSTRAINTS AND I CAN WAIVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF THEM.

YOU KNOW, IT MAY BE THAT I CHOOSE NOT TO DO, LIKE WHAT I WOULD DO IF I WAS USING MY CREATIVE DESIGN BRANDING BECAUSE I'VE GOT A SERIES OF CONSTRAINTS AND I CAN ONLY WAVE SO MANY OF 'EM.

AND SO I'M JUST GONNA CHECK THE BOX ON THIS ONE, EVEN THOUGH, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THE, THE DESIGNER IN ME THINKS THAT THIS OTHER THING IS, IS MORE IMPORTANT.

UM, I MEAN, WE'RE NOT PROHIBITING, WE'RE NOT PROHIBITING PLAY AREAS.

WE'RE JUST SAYING THAT IF THERE'S A PLAY AREA ACROSS THE STREET, LIKE YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO INCLUDE IT.

YOU STILL CAN.

RIGHT? BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO.

COUNCIL MEMBER HEALEY, UH, PLEASE WEIGH IN.

SO IF A, UH, NONPROFIT LIKE PEP CAME IN WITH AN SB 35 OR AN SB THREE 30 APPLICATION FOR SENIOR HOUSING, WOULD THESE STANDARDS REQUIRE THEM TO PUT IN A A TOT LOT AND SHOW ME WHY? SO, UM, THERE'S ACTUALLY A PROVISION IN THE CODE THAT SAYS FOR SENIOR CITIZEN DEVELOPMENTS OF 25 MORE UNITS OR MORE, WHICH IS THE SAME SIZE, UM, THAT ARE AGE RESTRICTED TO SENIOR

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UM, I, I GUESS I, I THINK WE'RE BEATING A DEAD HORSE HERE.

UM, I, I, I THINK I WOULD SUPPORT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER LES'S PROPOSAL IF IT WAS LIMITED TO WITHIN A QUARTER MILE OF A PUBLIC PARK THAT INCLUDES A PLAY STRUCTURE AND JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S, UM, THAT'S TIME FOR STRAW POLL THERE.

UH, UH, , YOU WERE OKAY WITH THAT PER, UM, AS STATED? YEAH, I, I HAVE TO SAY, UM, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER NOW'S, UH, COMMENT, UH, GOT ME THINKING ABOUT SEVERAL LARGEST REFUGEE FAMILIES I'VE HAD CONTACT WITH WHO LIVE IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT HAS A TOT LOT RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEIR FRONT DOOR AND ARE VERY HAPPY ABOUT THAT.

UH, IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THEY'RE MOST HAPPY ABOUT, BUT AGAIN, THAT NONE OF THESE FAMILIES LIVE WITHIN A QUARTER MILE OF ANOTHER PARK.

EXACTLY.

SO IS THAT A YES ON THE IDEA? YEAH, AND IT'S A YES AND COUNCIL MEMBER NANO, UM, I'LL GO ALONG WITH IT.

IT, BUT I DID WANNA SAY THAT, UM, SENIORS ARE ASKING FOR AN ACTIVE SENIOR PLAYGROUND AREA, WHETHER IT'S CHEST BOARDS OR PHYSICAL FITNESS OR THEY'RE, THEY'RE LOOKING AT SOMETHING FOR ACTIVE SENIORS, SO DON'T OUTLAW .

AND THE DILEMMA WE HAVE HOUSING THE, UM, SENIOR PARK AREA, AND THE DILEMMA WE HAVE WITH, UH, MID PENN ON THE NORTH BOULEVARD IS THEY ARE SENIOR AND, AND, UH, FARM LABOR AND EVERYBODY ELSE THAT THEY COULD GET FUNDING FROM.

SO THEY'RE NOT STRICTLY A FAMILY OR SENIOR.

SO WHAT DO WE DO WITH THAT OLD TOT LOT, YOU KNOW? UM, YEAH, GOOD POINT.

UM, AND WE'RE GOOD.

SO I THINK WE'RE GOOD ON THAT ONE.

AND, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLE, UH, UM, ANY, UH, FURTHER COMMENT ON, UM, OR OTHER IDEAS? NO, I'LL, I'LL GO ALONG WITH THE OTHER STUFF.

I'LL SAY THAT, UM, THE IDEA OF COMMUNAL GARDEN, UM, LIVES A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR IT TO BECOME AN ABANDONED COMMUNAL GARDEN.

UM, SO ON THE, I'M THINKING ON ON PROVISION D THERE, WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN? UM, LIKE A RECREATIONAL, UM, YOU KNOW, FITNESS ZONE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN A SENIOR DEVELOPMENT IS GONNA BE THERE AND IT'S GONNA, IT'S GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, ABLE TO BE USED A COMMUNITY GARDEN WHERE NOBODY PLANTS ANYTHING.

UM, AND IT'S NOT, AND IT'S NOT CARED FOR, CAN JUST BECOME A BUNCH OF BEDS.

BUT I'M, I I DO, I'M OKAY WITH IT.

ANYONE ON THE DAAS WANT TO, UH, CRAFT ANY, UM, MODIFICATION HERE? UM, I DID WANNA WEIGH BACK IN ON THE EV I THINK THAT, UM, WE SHOULD HAVE, UH, 50%, UH, OF PARKING SPACES BE, UM, PLUMBED FOR, UH, THIS, I MEAN, IT'S, FOR ME, IT'S AN EQUITY ISSUE.

LIKE I SAID EARLIER, YOU KNOW, THE, THE GREATEST BARRIER TO CHEAPER, UM, VEHICLE USE MORE, UH, CLIMATE FRIENDLY VEHICLE USE IS THE LACK OF APARTMENT, UM, EFFORT.

UM, IS THERE A PLACE WE CAN, UH, CRAFT THAT NUMBER IN STAFF? DO WE, I DON'T WANNA MAKE A MOTION WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT THE PARAGRAPH IS SO GREEN, BUT DYLAN, I DON'T KNOW.

UM, I THINK IT WOULD LIVE IN TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT RIGHT NOW.

UH, D TWO, NO, SORRY, D THREE, THAT'S THE GENERAL PARKING STANDARD SUBSECTION, UH, D THREE B IS PARKING SPACES.

UM, I THINK IT COULD LIVE SOMEWHERE IN THAT, THAT SUBSECTION.

YOU HAVE A PAGE NUMBER FOR US, UH, PAGE SIX AND SEVEN.

IT'S QUITE A LARGE SECTION.

SO WE WOULD ADD A, A SUBSECTION B FOUR PERHAPS, AND REQUIRE THAT AT LEAST 50 OF THE SPACES BE EV 50% OF THE SPACES BE EV READY TO HAVE ACCESS OR BE READY.

UM, WELL, I GUESS WE NEED A DEFINITION FOR BOTH ACCESS ALREADY.

UM, AND, UM, SO DO WE HAVE STANDING DEFINITIONS FOR THOSE? WHAT IS READY? DOES THAT MEAN HOT

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I, RIGHT.

THAT WOULD MEAN THAT THEY WOULD, THAT THE, UM, THAT UTILITIES WOULD BE RUN TO THEM, BUT THAT THE CHARGER, THE ACTUAL CHARGER WOULD NOT BE INSTALLED.

SO THEY WOULD BE IT, YEAH, EV READY IS I THINK, THE TERM THAT'S USED.

AND, AND DOES THAT ASSUME LEVEL TWO? WHAT'S THAT? DOES THAT ASSUME LEVEL TWO CHARGING OR DO WE NEED TO STIPULATE? WE SHOULD STIPULATE, I THINK.

THAT WE INCLUDE THAT, UM, QUALIFYING PROJECTS WOULD PROVIDE ELECTRIC BIKES FOR TENANTS, BUT WE DETERMINE THAT THAT'S AN OPERATIONAL OR PERFORMANCE STANDARD THAT WOULDN'T FIT WITH THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS.

YEAH, SO THAT'S WHAT I'M GONNA LOOK FOR.

UM, FIRST A STRAW POLE COMING ACROSS HERE, LEVEL TWO 50%.

THAT TWO, UM, READY? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.

HOW MANY PLACE? WELL, THAT, THAT'S A GOOD POINT NOT TO ELIMINATE ANY CAL GREENS.

I MEAN, I THINK THAT STAYS IN AS MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS.

WHAT WE ARE ADDING IS AN EV READY PARAGRAPH.

SO COMING ACROSS, WELL, I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE CAL GREEN, I WAS LOOKING FOR THAT EARLIER AND I COULDN'T, I CAN'T VERIFY THIS, BUT I BELIEVE CAL GREEN IS REQUIRING 25% OF SPACES, UM, SHALL BE EQUIPPED WITH CHARGING RECEPTACLES.

UM, BUT AGAIN, I'D HAVE TO GO DOWN AND LOOK WHETHER IT'S A TIER ONE OR TIER TWO, AND I'M NOT FAMILIAR, YOU KNOW, CALGARY GREEN IS IMPLEMENTED BY BUILDING, SO, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT 50%.

SO COUNCIL MEMBER THOMPSON, CAN WE ADD, UM, SOME CHARGES ON AT THIS POINT INSTEAD OF JUST THE MINIMAL I GET RATHER THAN EVIE READY MAKE THEM WELL AND STILL HAVE EV READY, BUT ADD, SO WE DON'T KNOW THE, UM, THE MINIMUM QUANTITY ON SITE.

SO IT'S DI MEAN, WHAT WOULD YOU PROPOSE ON SITE? WOULD I, WOULD I PROPOSE YOU JUST PROPOSE TWICE WHATEVER, UH, CAL GREEN SAYS YES, , UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A REALLY LOUSY WAY TO CREATE PUBLIC POLICY.

UM, WE ARE, UM, NOT EVEN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING HERE.

SB 35, SB THREE 30 IS GOING TO, YOU KNOW, EITHER BE ALL OR MO HAVE A LOT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THERE'S NO, NO EVEN PRETENSE OF LOOKING AT WHAT THE ECONOMICS OF, OF THESE LITTLE ADD-ONS THAT WERE COMING UP HERE WITH HERE TONIGHT DUE TO THE ABILITY TO CREATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE DOING ON THE FLY.

I, I WOULD SUPPORT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IN THE, IN THE DOCUMENT, AND IF WE WANNA REVISIT IT LATER AT ONE OF THESE VARIOUS RAMPS THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE COMING, THIS IS COMING BACK TO US, WE SHOULD DO IT AT THAT TIME.

I THINK THERE'S A PARKING ORDINANCE COMING IN THE NEAR FUTURE TOO, RIGHT, BRIAN? YES.

AND SO JUST THE TOPIC OF CHARGERS, I, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD NEATLY FIT HERE INTO, UH, COUNCILMAN HEALY'S POINT, I THINK, UM, AND TO, UM, OUR CITY ATTORNEY, UM, IS THERE IS A MORE HOLISTIC APPROACH THAT WE ARE TAKING, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH THE BLUEPRINT, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH THE PARKING ORDINANCE, UM, THAT WE COULD HAVE A MORE HOLISTIC DISCUSSION ABOUT PROJECT, UM, AMENITIES SUCH AS EV CHARGER REQUIREMENTS, UM, OR E-BIKES.

UM, UH, WHICH WAS ANOTHER ONE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP THIS WEEK.

AND I'LL JUST ADD TO THAT TOO.

I THINK STAFF AND THROUGH THE STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS I WASN'T PART OF, BUT THEY TRIED TO STRIKE A FINE BALANCE.

UM, NOT THE BATHTUBS ON STILTS, BUT, UH, A FINE BALANCE BETWEEN WHAT WE WANT TO SEE AND THEN TO NOT PRECLUDE, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND MAKE IT TOO ONEROUS LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER HEALY SAID.

UM, AND TO HAVE THIS BE, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN THE MARKET RATE, IT WOULD KIND OF ALMOST BE IT UNFAIR TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

SO UP TO YOU GUYS, IT'S TOTALLY YOUR DECISION, BUT MAYBE YOU, UH, YEAH, YEAH.

AND COUNCIL MEMBER DID, DID, BUT THE BIKE CHARGERS GOT IN HERE.

IS THAT BECAUSE IT WAS, FELT THEY WERE LESS EXPENSIVE THAN THE EV CHARGERS OR, OR, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMED LIKE THEY SHOULD BE DE DELETED TOO, IF WE'RE GONNA DELETE, IT SEEMS LIKE THEY SHOULD BE DELETED ALSO IF WE'RE DELETING THIS EV CHARGER STUFF.

WELL, I, I THINK A COUPLE POINTS THERE THAT I BELIEVE THEY'RE LESS EXPENSIVE BECAUSE YOU, YOU JUST PLUG INTO, UM, AN OUTLET OR SOMETHING SIMILAR, BUT ALSO EV BIKES ARE MORE AFFORDABLE THAN EV VEHICLES.

AND SO I BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE MORE ACCESSIBLE ESPECIALLY TO, TO LIMITED INCOME HOUSEHOLDS AND COUNCIL MEMBER NOW.

AND, UH, MR. TRIMBLE, DIDN'T WE HEAR THAT, UM, THEY WERE GONNA BE SHARED OR, OR LOANED OUT TO THE TENANTS, THESE ELECTRIC BIKES POSSIBLY THAT THERE WAS GONNA BE A SHARING? THERE WAS, THERE WAS A PROPOSAL

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COUNCIL MEMBER BARNICLE.

YEAH, FOR THE E-BIKES, IT'S PRETTY MUCH JUST PUTTING ONE 20 OUTLETS IN THE BIKE ROOM SO THAT YOU CAN PLUG IN.

THAT'S, IT'S, IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE STUFF.

IT'S JUST WIRING.

UM, AND I APPRECIATE COUNCIL MEMBER HUG HEALY'S COMMENTS ABOUT COSTS.

IF WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT PRE-WIRING, IT IS GONNA BE LIKE, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SATURATION WITH EVS, ANY, ANY LEVEL OF SATURATION, CAL GREEN PROBABLY ISN'T ENOUGH.

UM, AND PRE-WIRING WHEN YOU'RE ALREADY, YOU KNOW, LAYING CONDUIT AND YOU'VE GOT GR GROUND BROKEN IS GROUND, UM, A PRUDENT MEASURE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU CAN ADD ADDITIONAL UNITS.

UM, SO I, I, I CAN TAKE IT EITHER WAY.

I THINK IT'S PROBABLY RIGHT TO USE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND JUST, UM, DEAL WITH IT THROUGH BUILDING CODE.

THE UM, POINT FOR ME IS, IS THAT THE STATE IS, UH, IS PUSHING ON, UM, SEVERAL FRONTS.

SB 35 FOR AFFORDABLE SB THREE 30 FOR MARKET RATE, WITH ONLY OUR 15% BETWEEN IT BEING A FULLY MARKET RATE PROJECT AND THE SB THREE 30 APPLICATIONS IN, UH, ARE AN ORDER OF MAGNITUDE MORE MARKET UNITS THAN THE SB 30 FIVES OR EVEN SB THIRTIES WITH, UH, AFFORDABLE, YOU KNOW, A, A HIGH, HIGH, UH, PERCENTAGE AFFORDABLES.

SO WE, WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THIS STANDARD IS FOR MARKET RATE AND, AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS A LOT OF MARKET RATE PEOPLE WHO WANT COME FOLLOW THIS PATH.

UM, AND, UH, I, UH, UM, APPRECIATE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLES WEIGHING IN ON THE, UH, MINIMAL COST OF, OF THE CONDUIT AND READINESS STATUS VERSUS, UH, THE ACTUAL POWERING UP PART, WHICH, UH, IT IS WHERE THE COST IS.

SO, UM, DO WE NEED A STRAW POLL ON THIS OR DO LET'S DO A STRAW POLL AND FIGURE REFERENCE IS, THIS IS GONNA GO ANYWHERE AS COUNCIL MEMBER POSE.

WHAT, WHAT IS THE QUE UH, EX ACTUAL QUESTION THAT WE'RE, MAKE EV READY HALF THE PARKING SPACES, 50% PARKING SPACES AT LEVEL TWO.

I, I, I'D STILL BE IN FAVOR OF DOING THAT.

I'D JUST MAKING THEM ME BE READY SINCE THIS ISN'T, THAT'S NOT GONNA ASK.

ADD MUCH TO THE COST.

COUNCILOR MEMBER NOW? UM, YEAH, I'M FINE.

IT'S, THEY'RE MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY.

AND, AND, UH, I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

YOU'RE GOOD WITH THAT.

AND COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLE.

I'M GOOD WITH IT.

SO I THINK THAT'S A, A, A YES ON THIS.

UM, DID ANYONE HAVE ANY OTHER, UM, CRAFTS THEY WANTED TO ADD INTO THIS CONVERSATION TONIGHT? COUNCIL MEMBER NOW, UM, JUST, ARE WE GONNA TAKE A, A POLE OR A STRAW POLL ON THE VINYL WINDOWS OR STRIKE IT OR TAKE A POLL ON WHETHER OR NOT TO STRIKE IT? HOW ARE WE, WHAT ARE WE LANDING ON FOR THAT? I THINK YOU'RE ASKING US TO TAKE A, A STRAW POLL ON THAT.

WELL, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT'S IN THE, IT'S IN THE ORDINANCE.

WHICH DIRECTION? IF IT WAS TO STRIKE IT FROM THE DESIGN, UM, STANDARDS OR TO, BECAUSE HE SAID THE VINYL WINDOWS ARE CHANGING.

LET, MAY I ASK YOU TO ADDRESS, UH, WHAT THE RESOLUTION OR ACTION AS YOU KNOW IT IS FOR THIS ISSUE? SURE.

UH, BASED UPON THE, THE COMMENTS FROM THE COUNCIL AND, AND, UH, THE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN ASKED OF STAFF, UM, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER PROHIBITING VINYL MATERIALS, EXCEPT THAT VINYL WINDOWS WOULD BE ALLOWED.

UM, AND THEN WE COULD RESEARCH AND COME BACK WITH AN AMENDMENT IF WE WANTED TO, UH, QUANTIFY WHAT EXPECTATIONS MIGHT BE.

UM, MINIMUM STANDARDS FOR THOSE VINYL WINDOWS.

SO IF YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT PROHIBITING VINYL WINDOWS, THEN YOU COULD REMOVE THE PROHIBITION ON VINYL WINDOWS, BUT KEEP THE PROHIBITION ON VINYL OTHERWISE.

UM, SO THERE'S, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT VINYL WINDOWS, BUT WE ALSO HAVE, YOU KNOW, VINYL SIDING.

WE HAVE VINYL, VINYL GUTTERS AND, AND SO FORTH.

SO, SO IF I COULD, THE, THE, UH, DISCUSSION FOR THE, THE GROUP IS INCLUDE VINYL WINDOWS, WINDOWS DON'T, UH, ALLOW VINYL WINDOWS, YOU KNOW, DROP IT FROM THE, UH, EXISTING RESOLUTION OR DON'T DROP IT.

IF SOMEONE WANT TO MAKE ANY ADVOCACY STATEMENT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE KIND OF INSTALLED IN TYPICALLY TACKY FORMATIONS.

I THINK A LOT OF THE OBJECTION TO VINYL WINDOWS ISN'T TO THE WINDOWS THEMSELVES.

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AND, AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE, WE'RE ADDRESSING.

SO I, YOU KNOW, AT THIS POINT I DON'T, SINCE WE'RE ADDRESSING THAT ISSUE, I DON'T REALLY SEE A NEED TO BAN VINYL WINDOWS.

POLL COUNCIL MEMBER POKAY, UH, YOU PROPOSAL.

I, I THINK, 'CAUSE THIS IS, DO YOU WANT TO DELETE IT? UM, THE, THE BAN.

DELETE THE BAN, YEAH.

WHICH IS THE FUNCTION OF ALLOWING, I DON'T FEEL STRONGLY IN THIS.

IF, IF THE NONPROFIT OR OR YOU KNOW, KNOW THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CAN STILL GET A, GET A WAIVER ON IT.

SO YOU'RE THINKING MAYBE NO.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER NOW.

UM, I'D LIKE TO SEE IT DELETED.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLE.

I'M FINE WITH IT AS WRITTEN, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING IT CAN BE, CAN BE ADDED AS A WAIVER.

KATIE THOMPSON? I'M GOOD BECAUSE OF THE WAIVER.

UM, THEN, UM, YEAH, I, I'LL UH, I'LL, I'LL GO WITH THE, UH, THE, UM, LEAVING IT IN AND, AND AS STAFF WRITTEN BECAUSE OF THE WAIVER.

SO, UM, AND DID WE NOTE ANY OTHER TOPICS OF CONVERSATION TO, TO, UM, CRAFT THIS OR WAS THAT OUR LAST ONE FOR THE EVENING? WE'RE GOOD HERE.

UH, PLANNING MANAGER TRIPLE, DO YOU YOUR NOTES REFLECT ANY OTHER POINTS OF CONVERSATION NEEDING CLARIFICATION? UM, THE ONLY, THE ONLY OTHER ONE WAS THE UNBUNDLING OF THE PARKING.

UH, BUT IT, IN 2022, COUNSEL DIRECTED THAT THE PARKING STUDY WOULD ADDRESS UNBUNDLING AND SO THE PARKING STUDY WILL BE COMPLETED THIS YEAR.

I, UH, I WAS THE ONE INITIATING THAT AND I'M WILLING TO WAIT FOR THE PARKING STUDY.

ANY OTHER ADVOCATE? IS THAT ALL GOOD? WE'RE ALL NODDING HEADS.

GOOD.

SO THAT GETS US AROUND TO RESOLUTION TIME.

UM, DOES SOMEONE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION HERE WITH THE, THE, UH, THREE CHANGES NOTED FROM COUNSEL AND THE TWO CHANGES NOTED FROM STAFF BEING THE 30% TREE COVERAGE AND THE APPLICABILITY MOTION COUNCIL MEMBER POKAY MAKES A MOTION.

I'LL SECOND.

DOES STAFF WANT TO HAVE ONE LAST READING OF WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON HERE? AND WOULD THAT BE YOU, UH, PLANNING MANAGER TRIPLE? SURE.

I BELIEVE WE'VE CAPTURED THEM ALL.

UM, SO, SO THE MOTION WOULD BE TO INTRODUCE FIRST READING OF THE ORDINANCE WITH THE FOLLOWING MODIFICATIONS.

SECTION 7.120 POINT B APPLICABILITY WOULD HAVE THE FOLLOWING TEXT ADDED UNLESS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY OR IN CONFLICT WITH THE STANDARDS IN THIS OR ANOTHER APPLICABLE REGULATORY PLANNER CODE, ADDITIONAL ARCHITECTURAL OR DESIGN FEATURES ARE ALLOWABLE.

THEN, UM, SECTION 7.2, 0.7 POINT E TREE PLANTING SUBSECTION ONE.

A MODIFICATION OF THE TEST OR OF THE TEXT RATHER TREE SHALL BE PLANTED SO THAT THE AVERAGE ESTIMATED CANOPY DIAMETER AFTER 15 YEARS OF AGE COVERS 30% OF THE SITE'S OPEN SPACE WHEN VIEW DIRECTLY FROM ABOVE ESTIMATED CANOPY SIZE SHALL BE DETERMINED USING THE CITY OF PETALUMA'S LIST OF APPROVED STREET TREES, THEN UM, WE WOULD GO ON TO SECTION 7.12, ZERO POINT D SEVEN B TWO LANDSCAPING.

WE WOULD STRIKE THE FOLLOWING TEXT, A MINIMUM OF 50% OF THE FRONT AND SIDE STREET SETBACK SURFACE AREA SHALL BE PLANTED.

THEN WE WOULD GO ON TO SECTION 7.12, 0.8 C REQUIRED AREA.

AND WE WOULD MODIFY THAT TO, UM, ALLOW A, THE CHILDREN'S PLAY AREA WOULD BE OPTIONAL.

IF YOU'RE, IF THE PROJECT IS LOCATED WITHIN A QUARTER MILE OF A PUBLIC PARK, OF AN EXISTING PARK WITH A CHILDREN'S PLAY AREA, THEN WE WOULD ADD SECTION 7.12, ZERO POINT D THREE B FOUR, AND THAT WOULD BE EV CHARGING.

AND UH, THE TEXT WOULD READ AT LEAST 50% OF PARKING SPACES WILL BE EV READY.

AND WE WOULD DEFINE EV READY AS LEVEL TWO.

AS LEVEL TWO.

UH, DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT? I'LL SECOND THAT.

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UH, SECOND FROM CATER THOMPSON.

UM, ROLL CALL VOTE BARNACLE.

DID YOU HEAR ME? I SAID I, OKAY.

THAT'S AN INCREDIBLY COMPREHENSIVE THING TO THANK TO COUNCIL AND, UH, YOU'VE DONE WELL.

AND WITH THAT, WE ADJOURN THE MEETING FOR THE EVENING.