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           RECORDING IN PROGRESS. 
          WELCOME 
          [CALL TO ORDER]
TO A SPECIAL TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING, UH, CITY OF PUM. 
          AND OUR CALL TO ROLL CALL PLEASE. 
          EWING. 
          PRESENT CUSON. 
          HERE. 
          OBEYED. 
          PRESENT. 
          B. 
          HERE, VER. 
          HERE. 
          KERLEY. 
          ELLI HERE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, IS YOUR MIC ON CHERRY FOR ME? I'M SORRY. 
          UH, WE RECEIVED 
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PRESENTATION AND DISCUSS THE CITY, THE DRAFT CITY OF PETALUMA BLUEPRINT FOR CARBON NEUTRALITY AND CONSIDER PROVIDING COMMITTEE FEEDBACK. 
          DO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION? YES. 
          HEATHER? YES. 
          HI. 
          HI. 
          WELCOME. 
          UM, . 
          THANK YOU. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBERS. 
          MY NAME IS HEATHER GRITZ. 
          I'M SENIOR PLANNER. 
          UM, AND I AM HERE TODAY TO, UH, SHARE WITH YOU OUR, UM, PRESENTATION ON THE BLUEPRINT FOR CLIMATE NEUTRAL CARBON NEUTRALITY. 
          AND OH, OKAY. 
          I JUST NEED TO GET IT TO SHARE MY SCREEN AND HERE WE GO. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WHY NOT, OR DO I NEED THE SUBTITLES? IT'S ASKING ME. 
          I'LL JUST LEAVE ON, OKAY. 
          I, I I THINK YOU'RE FINE. 
          OKAY, . 
          SO, UM, THE BLUEPRINT HAS BEEN AN ONGOING PROCESS, AND IT IS A UNIQUE COMBINATION OF TECHNICAL ANALYSIS AND, UM, ALSO, UH, INPUT FROM DIFFERENT MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY. 
          UM, IT'S INVOLVED WORKING WITH THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION AND ALSO, UM, INVITING PUBLIC FEEDBACK. 
          SO WE RECENTLY HAD, UM, RELEASED THE DRAFT OF THE PLAN. 
          SO IT ACTUALLY WAS A COUPLE YEARS IN THE MAKING WITH THE INPUT OF THE CAC, AND THEN A DRAFT OF THE PLAN WAS RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC ON OCTOBER 2ND. 
          UM, AND THROUGH THAT COMMENT PERIOD, WE RECEIVED OVER 900 COMMENTS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH. 
          UM, WE'VE ALSO BEEN VISITING WITH THE VARIOUS, UM, CCBS. 
          SO, UM, PBAC HAS REVIEWED THIS, UM, PARKS, UM, IT'S THE RECREATION PARKS AND MUSIC, I THINK IS, OR I'VE GOT THAT MIXED UP, BUT THAT'S, WE'VE VISITED WITH THEM AND WE'LL BE, UM, VISITING WITH TRANSIT TOMORROW TO PRESENT AND, UM, RECEIVE FEEDBACK. 
          UH, THIS WILL ALSO GO TO, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION FOR RECOMMENDATION BEFORE IT GOES TO CITY COUNCIL. 
          AND WE'RE HOPEFUL THEY'LL BE ADOPTED SOMETIME IN LATE SPRING, HOPEFULLY APRIL, MAY, SO, OOPS. 
          DIDN'T GO. 
          AND THEN IT WENT TOO MANY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WHAT IS A BLUEPRINT FOR CARBON NEUTRALITY? AND AS YOU'RE AWARE, THERE IS A, UM, CLIMATE EMERGENCY FRAMEWORK THAT WAS PUT INTO PLACE, AND THERE WAS A VERY BOLD ACTION THAT PETALUMA HAS COMMITTED TO, WHICH IS CARBON NEUTRALITY. 
          BY THE YEAR 2030, THE BLUEPRINT REFINES THAT VISION AND PROVIDES SPECIFIC STRATEGIES AND ACTIONS TOWARDS MEETING THAT GOAL. 
          AND, UM, IT DOES INCORPORATE A LOT OF THE NEW PRACTICES. 
          IT CALLS FOR ADDITIONAL WORK, AND IT IS INTENDED TO BE A SHORT RANGE PLAN THAT WOULD BE ENACTED WITHIN 10 YEARS. 
          NOW, THERE'S TWO PIECES. 
          NORMALLY YOU'LL HEAR, UM, THE, THE TYPICAL LINGO IS A CAP CLIMATE ADAPTATION, UM, CLIMATE ACTION AND ADAPTATION PLAN. 
          WE'VE ACTUALLY SEPARATED THOSE. 
          SO CLIMATE ADAPTATION IS BEING INCORPORATED INTO THE GENERAL PLAN, AND SO THE ADAPTATION MEASURES WILL BE IN THERE. 
          THE BLUEPRINT FOR CARBON NEUTRALITY IS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS FROM PETALUMA. 
          AND SO IT'S 
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A, IT'S A METHOD OF, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE HOW DO WE ACTUALLY REDUCE OUR GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS? AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN THIS PLAN. 
          AND I SORT OF WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS. 
          SO, UM, THE COMMUNITY EMISSIONS PROFILE THAT WAS USED AS A STARTING POINT HERE IS THE 2018 GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS PROFILE. 
          AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT, IT'S, YOU'LL SEE THIS A LOT OF PHRASING WHEN WE LOOK AT, UM, WE TALK ABOUT CARBON, THE M-C-M-T-C-O-E, SO METRIC TONS OF CARBON DIOXIDE EQUIVALENT. 
          AND THE REASON WE SAY THAT IS BECAUSE MORE GASES ARE GREENHOUSE GASES BEYOND CARBON DIOXIDE. 
          BUT BY PUTTING THEM ALL INTO AN EQUIVALENT, WE CAN ACTUALLY PUT THEM INTO ONE METRIC. 
          SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HOW YOU REDUCE THESE, WE HAVE ONE METRIC THAT WE'RE USING. 
          UM, AND SO THE EMISSIONS PROFILE IS THAT, UM, AGAIN, IT'S 472,422 METRIC TONS OF, UM, CARBON DIOXIDE EQUIVALENT. 
          AND 67% OF THAT IS FROM ON-ROAD TRANSPORTATION, UM, FOLLOWED BY 24% WITH THE ENERGY. 
          UM, AND THAT REALLY MAKES UP THE BULK OF IT. 
          THERE'S, UM, SOLID WASTE WATER IS VERY MINIMAL. 
          UM, AND THEN OFF ROAD TRANSPORTATION, IT'S VERY SMALL AS WELL. 
          SO THE, WHEN WE LOOK AT, OKAY, HOW DO WE GET THERE, UM, AND WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF WE CONTINUE ON DIFFERENT PATHWAYS? SO THERE'S FOUR DIFFERENT SCENARIOS THAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT. 
          BUSINESS AS USUAL MEANS WE DON'T DO ANYTHING, WE JUST CRUISE ALONG THE WAY. 
          WE'VE BEEN CRUISING ALONG AS TIME CONTINUES. 
          ADJUSTED BUSINESS AS USUAL IS WHAT WOULD PETALUMA'S EMISSIONS BE WITHOUT US NECESSARILY, NOT NECESSARILY DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT, BUT USING THE ADOPTED STATE POLICIES, BUT NO LOCAL POLICY CHANGE. 
          SO JUST RELYING ON STATE ADOPTED POLICIES. 
          NOW, AMBITIOUS CLIMATE ACTION IS WHAT WE'RE, WHAT THIS PLAN IS, AND IT'S AMBITIOUS ACTION THAT LOOKS AT HOW WE CAN DO THE MOST TO REDUCE CLIMATE OR CARBON EMISSIONS. 
          THE, WHAT DOES IT TAKE MODEL IS THE, UM, HOW DO YOU GET IT TWO ZERO, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT FACTORS THAT COME INTO THE BLUEPRINT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT HOW DO YOU REDUCE IT. 
          UM, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THINGS LIKE THE FACT THAT 67% OF EMISSIONS ARE BASED ON TRANSPORTATION, THAT REQUIRES THAT CITIZENS AND INDIVIDUALS ARE TAKING ACTION. 
          UM, SAME THING WITH ENERGY. 
          SO, UM, THERE'S ONLY A, IT DOES RECOGNIZE IN THE PLAN THAT THERE'S ONLY A CERTAIN AMOUNT THAT'S WITHIN THE CONTROL OF THE CITY. 
          SO, UM, IT ALSO RECOGNIZES THAT IT NEEDS PARTNERSHIPS TO ACHIEVE THOSE GOALS. 
          AND I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT. 
          UM, SO THE INVENTORY, AGAIN, IT STARTS WITH 2018, AND THIS IS PROJECTED IF WE JUST, YOU KNOW, NOTHING CHANGES. 
          GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS CONTINUE TO GO UP, JUST RELYING ON STATE POLICY DOES ACTUALLY REDUCE EMISSIONS. 
          BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, NOT VERY MUCH. 
          AND NOWHERE NEAR THE GOAL THAT IS ANTICIPATED. 
          THE, WHAT THIS PLAN LAYS OUT IS THIS YELLOW LINE, WHICH HAS A SIGNIFICANT AMBITIOUS REDUCTION IN GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS. 
          UM, THE, WHAT DOES IT TAKE SCENARIO IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE, BUT GIVEN THE AVAILABLE TECHNOLOGY AND THE THINGS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY'S CONTROL, UM, IT IS EXTREMELY CHALLENGING TO GET THERE. 
          SO, UM, UM, WHAT DO THESE REPRESENT? SO THERE'S DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE PLAN AND BUILDING EFFICIENCY AND DECARBONIZATION. 
          SO HOW DO YOU ACTUALLY TAKE BOTH NEW STRUCTURES AND EXISTING STRUCTURES AND DECARBONIZE THEM, INCREASE THEIR EFFICIENCY? UM, REMOVE RELIANCE FROM NATURAL GAS AND AMBITIOUS ACTION WOULD REDUCE BY 40%. 
          UM, THE, WHAT DOES IT TAKE SCENARIO, UM, WOULD BE TO, YOU KNOW, AND HOW, WHERE DOES THAT GET US TO? AND THEN WHAT DOES IT TAKE SCENARIO TO 85%, UM, OF, OF ALL BUILDINGS WOULD? SORRY. 
          SO IT'S 40% OF ALL BUILDINGS FOR AMBITIOUS CLIMATE ACTION TO GET US TOWARD THAT GOAL. 
          THE 85% OF ALL BUILDINGS WOULD HAVE TO BE DECARBONIZED. 
          UM, SO, AND ELECTRIC VEHICLES, THIS IS THE SAME FOR BOTH. 
          AND I'M ACTUALLY STILL WAITING TO HEAR BACK FROM OUR CONSULTANT WHY THAT'S LIKE THAT, BUT 25% OF VEHICLES, UM, BEING ELECTRIFIED WOULD MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION. 
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UM, AND AGAIN, I'M, I THINK THIS SLIDE MIGHT HAVE, THERE'S SOMETHING NOT RIGHT ABOUT IT, SO I APOLOGIZE THAT THAT'S THERE. 
          UM, MODE SHARE THE PERCENT. 
          SO THIS WOULD BE TRANSITIONING 50% OF ALL TRIPS TO BE NON-AUTO MODES. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, TAKING PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR CARS AND TRANSITIONING TO THEM TO BICYCLES OR TRANSITS. 
          UM, AND IT DOES STILL HAVE AN EMISSIONS GAP FROM BEING CARBON NEUTRAL, UM, AMBITIOUS. 
          A ACTION DOES STILL LEAVE A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT GAP. 
          AND THE, WHAT DOES IT TAKE SCENARIO CAN GET MUCH CLOSER. 
          UM, OKAY, SO THE PLAN IS BROKEN OUT INTO DIFFERENT SECTORS. 
          AND THEN EACH SECTOR, THERE'S A CERTAIN NUMBER OF ACTION PLANS AND STRATEGIES THAT ADDRESS DIFFERENT, UM, ELEMENTS. 
          SO THERE'S CLEAN ENERGY BUILDINGS, TRANSPORTATION AND LAND USE, RESOURCE CONSUMPTION, WATER, UM, SEQUESTRATION AND NATURAL SYSTEMS AND MUNICIPAL OPERATIONS. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE IN THIS TABLE HERE, UM, IT SHOWS WHAT THE NUMBER OF, UM, ACTION PLANS ARE, UH, THE NUMBER OF CITY ACTIONS IN EACH OF THOSE ACTION PLANS. 
          AND THEN, UM, ALSO PARTNERSHIP ACTIONS. 
          AGAIN, THIS PLAN RECOGNIZES THAT THE CITY CAN'T JUST REGULATE ITS WAY TO CARBON NEUTRALITY. 
          THERE HAS TO BE A PARTNERSHIP. 
          UM, AND YOU'LL SEE THE NUMBER OF CORNERSTONE ACTIONS TOO. 
          AND THE PLAN IDENTIFIES 22 CORNERSTONE ACTIONS THAT HAVE THE HIGHEST, UM, CAPACITY TO REDUCE EMISSIONS. 
          NOW, THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION IS PROVIDING US FEEDBACK THAT THEY HAVE SOME ALTERNATIVE, UM, CORNERSTONE ACTIONS THAT THEY WOULD, WOULD LIKE US TO INCLUDE. 
          AND SO WE'RE GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS RIGHT NOW, JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SO THIS GIVES A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A BREAKDOWN. 
          SO AGAIN, YOU SEE THOSE SAME SECTORS, AND THEN IT SHOWS WHAT EACH OF THE DIFFERENT, UM, ACTION PLANS ARE. 
          SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU LOOK IN SEQUESTRATION, YOU'LL SEE THERE'S URBAN FORESTRY, OPEN SPACE MANAGEMENT, UM, CLIMATE SMART WORKING LANDS, AND CITY LANDSCAPE MANAGEMENT. 
          AND I DON'T WANNA TAKE FOR GRANTED THAT I'M TALKING TO THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, BUT IN CASE ANYBODY'S UNFAMILIAR WITH SEQUESTRATION, THE IDEA OF SEQUESTRATION MEANS THAT YOU ARE SEQUESTERING CARBON BY PLANTING TREES AND OTHER TYPES OF VEGETATION THAT HAVE THE CAPACITY TO PULL CARBON OUT OF THE ATMOSPHERE AND CREATE OXYGEN. 
          SO, UM, IN CASE ANYBODY NEEDED THAT DEFINITION. 
          UM, SO THE REDUCTION POTENTIAL IS RATED ON THIS. 
          SO YOU'LL SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, CHANGING EXISTING BUILDINGS AND ELECTRIFYING, UM, EXISTING TO TAKING THEM FROM NATURAL GAS AND ELECTRIFYING THEM AND MAKING THEM MORE EFFICIENT IS ONE OF THE, YOU KNOW, HIGHEST GAINS. 
          AGAIN, VEHICLE ELECTRIFICATION AND MOBILITY IS ONE OF THE HIGHEST GAINS. 
          UM, THOSE ARE AREAS WHERE YOU HAVE REALLY, UM, SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF REDUCTIONS WITH THOSE ACTIONS. 
          HOWEVER, THERE ISN'T ALWAYS A MATCHUP BETWEEN THE COSTS. 
          AND SO WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT THESE? UM, AND THAT'S NOTED THAT ELECTRIFYING AND MAKING EXISTING BUILDINGS MORE EFFICIENT IS ONE OF THE HIGHER COST ITEMS, UM, AND MOST DIFFICULT BECAUSE MOST OF THOSE WE DON'T OWN. 
          UM, SO THERE'S ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, ENERGY PURCHASING THOUGH, WHERE THAT HAS A REALLY SIGNIFICANT BENEFIT. 
          THE COST OF ACTUAL ENERGY PURCHASING IS LOWER, BUT HAS THAT HIGHER BENEFIT. 
          SO AGAIN, UM, THE PURPOSE OF THIS CHART IS TO KIND OF JUST CATEGORIZE BASED ON, OKAY, WE LOOKED AT THIS SLIDE WHERE YOU SEE WHAT IS THE POTENTIAL TO REDUCE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS, AND THE SLIDE WHERE IT TELLS US WHAT THE COST OF THAT IS. 
          SO NOW AGAIN, WE TALKED, I, I MENTIONED THAT THERE'S CORNERSTONE ACTIONS. 
          THERE'S 22 CORNERSTONE ACTIONS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE PLAN. 
          UM, AND SO THEY ALL VARY, DEPEND, LIKE THERE'S CORNERSTONE ACTIONS FROM DIFFERENT SECTORS. 
          UM, SPECIFICALLY SEQUESTRATION, I'VE BROUGHT THIS FORWARD TO KIND OF SHARE WITH YOU BECAUSE, UM, IT DOES LOOK AT THINGS THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF THE TREE COMMITTEE. 
          UM, IT'S WORTH NOTING TOO, UM, THAT THIS PLAN INCLUDES THINGS THAT THE CITY IS ALREADY DOING. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, WE ARE LOOKING AT A REVISED TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE 
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THAT'S ALREADY IN ACTION, AND THAT'S WHY WE EXPECT IT TO BE COMPLETED BY THE 2025, WHICH IS JANUARY 1ST, 2025. 
          UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE'S A DESIRE TO DO AN URBAN REVISED URBAN FOREST PLAN WITH DETAILED INFORMATION IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGY, UM, AND A COMPREHENSIVE LAND MANAGEMENT AND MAINTENANCE PROCEDURES FOR CITY PROPERTIES THAT CENTER ON REGENERATIVE MANAGEMENT. 
          SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE PLAN IN A NUTSHELL. 
          AND, UM, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND STOP SHARING. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I KNOW THAT WAS QUICK, BUT I KNOW THAT YOU'VE HOPEFULLY HAD TIME TO LOOK AT THE PLAN. 
          AND IF YOU WANT, I THOUGHT I WOULD JUST KIND OF GIVE YOU THE OVERVIEW SO THAT YOU COULD ASK QUESTIONS AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, I THINK WE'LL OPEN IT UP FOR FEEDBACK AND THEN QUESTIONS. 
          AND WE'LL START TO MY LEFT THIS TIME WITH MARYANNE. 
          MARYANNE, CAN YOU TURN YOUR MICROPHONE ON, PLEASE? I'M STILL WORKING MY WAY THROUGH THE, SOME OF THE, UH, THE REPORT. 
          AND, UH, I DO HAVE SOME NOTES AND I'M ONLY UP TO LIKE PAGE 81 SO FAR. 
          BUT, UM, I WAS GONNA KIND OF JUST PUT EVERYTHING TOGETHER INTO AN EMAIL AND WHEN I GET THROUGH EVERYTHING, AND THEN SEND ALL OF MY, UM, COMMENTS AT ONCE, IF THAT WORKS. 
          YEAH, THAT WORKS. 
          GOOD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH, I GUESS, UH, A KIND OF A GENERAL QUESTION ON, UH, COMPLIANCE AND LIKE, WHAT, WHAT'S THE SORT OF GENERAL EXPECTATION FOR FORCING, UM, UH, THE STAKEHOLDERS TO COMPLY? UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, UM, I GUESS SOME OTHER QUESTIONS AROUND THE TREES AND WHAT, UH, THERE ARE SOME MEASUREMENTS THAT WE MIGHT HAVE SOME, UH, SOME, UH, LIKE PERCENTAGES WE'RE TRYING TO HIT, UH, CARBON SEQUESTRATION DATA FIGURES AS ANY OF THAT. 
          UH, DID I MISS THAT IN THE REPORT? IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I, SINCE I READ IT. 
          THANKS. 
          UM, THEN I'LL CONTINUE THIS. 
          UM, I THINK THAT, UH, JUST COMMENTS, UH, GENERALLY, UM, WELL, I UNDERSTAND, UH, HOW THE CITY FUNCTIONS. 
          UM, IT SEEMS SEVERAL OF THE IDEAS, UM, A LITTLE FAR OFF, ESPECIALLY THE, UM, THE MUNICIPAL, THE GARDEN MANAGEMENT, UM, 2027. 
          IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE THERE COULD BE, UM, ESPECIALLY WITHIN PARK AND REC, THERE COULD BE SOME MANAGEMENT PRACTICES THAT COULD BE IMPLEMENTED ALMOST IMMEDIATELY. 
          UM, IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE REINVENTING THE WHEEL HERE. 
          I MEAN, THOSE, THOSE PRACTICES ARE BEING USED IN, IN, IN MANY, MANY, MANY PLACES. 
          AND, UM, IT'S REALLY JUST A CUT IN PLACE AND A, AND A AND A TEACHING OPPORTUNITY. 
          UM, AND, UM, GOOD PRESERVATION, TREE PLANTING PROGRAMS AND CITY MAINTENANCE PRACTICES ARE ALL, ARE ALL EASILY BROUGHT UP TO CURRENT STANDARDS, UM, LIKE I SAID IMMEDIATELY. 
          UM, AND THIS COULD BE DONE AGGRESSIVELY PARTNERING WITH COOL PETALUMA DAILY ACTS AND RELIEF. 
          UM, THE SEQUESTRATION PART OF THE REVISED TPO NEEDS TO INCLUDE A PLAN FOR AGGRESSIVE TREE PLANTING ON MUNICIPAL AND PRIVATE PROPERTY, UM, TO 2025 FOR THE RELEASE DATE. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT JANUARY 1ST, THAT'S GOOD. 
          UH, MUNICIPAL OPERATIONS, UM, I THINK TREES SHOULD BE INCLUDED AS PART OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. 
          I THINK THE TREES SHOULD ALSO BE INCLUDED AS INFRASTRUCTURE UPGRADES. 
          UM, UH, REVISED URBAN FOREST PLAN 2026. 
          AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND HOW THINGS MOVE, BUT IT JUST SEEMS, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE IN A CLIMBING EMERGENCY AND THESE, THESE DATES THAT ARE A YEAR OR TWO OR THREE OUT, UM, WELL, I UNDERSTAND IT, IT JUST, IT, IT LEAVES ME FEELING LIKE IT'S, IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE MUCH OF AN EMERGENCY. 
          UM, THE SEQUESTRATION, AGAIN, COMPREHENSIVE LAND MANAGEMENT AND PLAN AND MAINTENANCE, UM, I'LL GO BACK IN 2027, JUST SEEMS LIKE A LONG WAY OFF PERCENT OF ITS ANNUAL COMMUNITY GSG EMISSIONS. 
          UM, I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE, WELL, NOT SURPRISED, BUT IT WAS INTERESTING TO SEE THE 67%. 
          UM, AND, AND I WOULD SAY THAT AN AGGRESSIVE STREET TREE PROGRAM IS NEEDED TO BOTH PRESERVE AND ENHANCE COVERAGE. 
          AND AGAIN, UM, THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S IMMEDIATE. 
          I MEAN, JUST DRIVING OVER HERE, UM, IT'S ON C STREET BETWEEN FIFTH AND SIXTH, SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S TWO SYCAMORES 
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THAT WERE REDUCED BY PROBABLY 75% LAST SUMMER. 
          UM, THERE'S A HOUSE ON THE CORNER OF B AND SIXTH, UM, WHICH HAS NO OVERHEAD LINES AND HAS GREAT BIG THINGS. 
          AND THE CREPE MYRTLES IN THERE ARE P PRUNE DOWN TO LESS THAN SIX FEET TALL. 
          THEY'RE JUST, I, IT'S, IT'S, IT JUST SHOULDN'T HAPPEN. 
          UM, AND, UM, AND I THINK THESE THINGS ARE STILL GONNA HAPPEN IF WE'RE WAITING UNTIL 2026, 2027, WHAT'S GONNA BE LEFT BY THEN. 
          UM, AND, UM, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT'S BEEN INCREASING OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS. 
          UM, AND THEN I, HOW MUCH OF THE 67%, UM, OF THOSE GAS IS, IS DUE TO LANDSCAPE TOOLS. 
          SO AGAIN, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S NOT JUST IN CITY PARKS THAT I'M SEEING BLOWERS, GAS BLOWERS AND, AND GRASS MOWERS. 
          IT'S, IT'S THE HOMEOWNERS. 
          SO, I MEAN, I, I, EVERY SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, ALL YOU HEAR ARE BLOWERS AND MOWERS AND, AND AGAIN, AN AGGRESSIVE EDUCATION. 
          UM, OUTREACH, AGAIN, MAYBE PARTNERING WITH COOL PETALUMA DAILY ACCIDENT RELIEF CAN, CAN BRING THAT UP AND AT LEAST EDUCATE PEOPLE. 
          UM, MUNICIPAL CODES, UH, TOTAL MUNICIPAL GSG EMISSIONS BY SECTOR. 
          UM, I, I WONDER WHAT THE TOTALS ARE. 
          THE 67% ARE FROM TWO STROKE GASOLINE BLOWERS AND MOWERS. 
          AGAIN, UM, CARBON MONOXIDE VOCS AND NITROGEN OXIDES ADMINISTER IN THESE ENGINES ARE THOUGHT TO CONTRIBUTE AROUND 5% OF THE NATION'S AIR POLLUTION. 
          ADDITIONALLY, OPERATION OF THESE ENGINES FOR ONE HOUR RELEASES ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT OF POLLUTION QUANTITIES AS 11 NEW AUTOMOBILES RUNNING FOR 11 FOR ONE HOUR. 
          UM, I'D ALSO HEARD THIS WAS 20 YEARS AGO THAT A HALF AN HOUR OF A BLOWER IS EQUAL TO DRIVING AN SUVA HUNDRED MILES. 
          AND I THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, EVERY DAYLIGHT HOUR, THOSE THINGS ARE GOING OFF. 
          SO, UM, AND AGAIN, UH, LAND, I WAS INTERESTED IN THE GRAPHS THERE, THE, THE LANDSCAPE MANAGEMENT BEING A LOW COST SORT OF LOW HANGING FRUIT, UM, AT A LOW COST. 
          AND IT'S, I THINK THAT GRAPH WAS FOR CITY, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, WHAT IF THAT'S IN, WHAT IF YOU INCLUDE PRIVATE IN THAT AS WELL, UM, DOES THAT, DOES THAT COST BENEFIT? AND THAT THE, UM, SEQUESTRATION NUMBERS GO DOWN. 
          UM, THE NEW BUILDING STRATEGY, BUILDING ACTION PLAN, I THINK A TREE CANOPY LANDSCAPE MANDATES, UM, AND REQUIRE 60% CALIFORNIA NATIVE PLANTINGS AND ALL NEW LANDSCAPES. 
          UH, EXISTING BUILDING STRATEGIES, SAME AS ABOVE, BUT ALSO EQUITY FUNDING FOR LANDSCAPE AND ALSO EDUCATION, UM, TRAFFIC AND STREET STANDARDS. 
          UM, I DIDN'T SEE ANY MENTION OF UPDATED STREET STANDARDS, ESPECIALLY THE ENCOURAGEMENT OF BIOSWELLS AND WATER RETENTION. 
          UM, PERMEABLE SURFACES WERE APPROPRIATE. 
          LANE REDUCTION FOR MAJOR ARTERIES INCREASED RIGHT OF WAY TREE COVERAGE FOR ALL STREETS. 
          AND ARE THERE ANY STRATEGIES FOR PUBLIC WORKS TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF CONCRETE AND ASPHALT USED IN TRAILS AND ROAD PROJECTS? UM, I BRING UP LYNCH CREEK, UM, WHICH HAD A LOVELY GRAVEL PATH, AND NOW IT'S CONCRETE AND CURBS. 
          AND I KNOW THAT CONCRETE IS ONE OF THE MOST, UM, CARBON INTENSIVE, UH, UH, UTILITIES ON THE PLANET. 
          UM, I THINK IF, UM, IT WAS BROUGHT UP TO A DAI THINK THAT IF, IF, UM, CHRISSY FIELD HAS THIS LOVELY, LOVELY TRAIL AND IT'S NOT CONCRETE, UH, AND THEN PERMEABLE PAVING, INCREASED WATER RETENTION AND AIR CIRCULATION FOR NEW AND EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY TREES. 
          AND, UM, I LOVE THE LOCAL FOOD SYSTEM AND GROCERY STRATEGY. 
          UM, CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, YOU ALL KNOW WHY , UM, BUT, UM, NATURAL SYSTEMS AND IAN ACTION PLAN, EMERGENCY ACTION NEEDED, UM, TREE REMOVAL AND PRUNING GUIDELINES NEED TO BE MADE CLEAR IMMEDIATELY AS TOO MANY TREES ARE BEING REMOVED WITHOUT CONSEQUENCE, AND PRUNING IS MUCH, MUCH TOO AGGRESSIVE. 
          UM, REMOVING TWO STROKE ENGINES FROM MAINTENANCE TEAMS NEEDS TO BE A HIGHER PRIORITY AND COMMUNITY EDUCATION PROGRAM FOR BOTH GARDEN PROFESSIONALS AND HOME GARDENERS IS A, SHOULD BE A TOP PRIORITY. 
          AND, UH, NUMBER EIGHT IN THAT ESTABLISHED A FUND, THE CITYWIDE STREET MAINTENANCE AND TREE PLANTING PROGRAM. 
          YES, I, I THINK THAT'S GREAT. 
          UM, PARTNERSHIP AND ENGAGEMENT ARBOR DAY AGREED. 
          WE SHOULD USE THE DATA TO EDUCATE ABOUT TREE CARE, NATIVE SPECIES BENEFITS ESPECIALLY. 
          AND THEN AS FAR AS MODEL LANDSCAPES, I BROUGHT THAT, THAT STUCK OUT AT ME. 
          AND I THINK THAT, UM, THE CITY, CITY SHOULD PRIORITIZE EXISTING PARKS AS MODEL LANDSCAPES, AND THAT THAT WOULD MEAN THAT WE AGGRESSIVELY SEEK FUNDING FOR NEW AND TRAINED PROFESSIONAL GARDENERS, UM, WHICH I THINK THE CITY IS SORELY LACKING IN, BUT I'M SURE IT'S ALL THE BUDGET THING TOO. 
          UM, OPEN SPACE MANAGEMENT, TRAVELING, UH, UH, STRATEGY. 
          I'LL LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING MORE ABOUT THIS. 
          AND CITY LANDSCAPE MANAGEMENT ACTION PLAN. 
          AGAIN, REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF MOWING IN CITY PARKS BY EDUCATING MAINTENANCE AND STAFF RESIDENTS INCURRING TURF MANAGEMENT SOLUTIONS. 
          UM, IT WAS BROUGHT UP TO ME A PLACE TO PLAY A COMMUNITY PARK AND WEST THIRD STREET IN SANTA ROSA WHERE THEY MOW THEIR SOCCER FIELDS 
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AND THEN LEAVE ALL THE GRASS AROUND THE EDGES TO GROW INTO, BECOME WHATEVER IT WANTS TO BECOME. 
          AND, UM, AND THIS IS A PRACTICE THAT I SEE IN GREAT BRITAIN AND I SEE IN EAST COAST PARKS. 
          AND, UM, AND, AND, UM, I KNOW, I KNOW THAT THE CITY IS ESPECIALLY PARK AND REC IS VERY RESISTANT TO EVEN HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT IT. 
          SO, UM, THOSE WERE MY THOUGHTS ON THIS, AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO TARYN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          EXCELLENT COMMENTS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, UH, FIRST, UH, I LAID MINE OUT BY JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS, AND THEN I HAVE GENERAL COMMENTS AND SOME SPECIFIC COMMENTS, NOT SUPER LENGTHY, BUT, UM, MY FIRST QUESTION IS, HOW DID Y'ALL GET AHOLD OF THIS CARBON BLUEPRINT? I DON'T SEE IT LINKED UP ON THE AGENDA. 
          AND THE LAST I SAW WAS A VERSION PRESENTED TO THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION THAT WAS, I DON'T KNOW, ROUGHLY SIX WEEKS AGO AND LOOKS LIKE I COMPLETELY MISSED AN OPPORTUNITY WITH LOOKING AT THIS ITEM. 
          SO I, THAT'S A QUESTION. 
          UM, PLEASE, ARE YOU ASKING ME? I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER, OR I MEAN, SO IT, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN SENT OUT TO THE COMMITTEE, BUT IT IS THE SAME PLAN. 
          WE HAVE NOT MADE ANY CHANGES SINCE THE LAST VERSION THAT WAS RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC. 
          WE'RE STILL COLLECTING FEEDBACK. 
          SO THE LAST VERSION THAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION LIKE SIX WEEKS AGO, MM-HMM, , CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          A LITTLE QUESTION YOU, TERRY, I'LL GO AHEAD AND ANSWER TOO. 
          IT, IT'S AVAILABLE AND IT'S ATTACHED ON THE AGENDA ONLINE. 
          IT WAS SENT OUT BY CATHERINE IN THE PACKET, AND IT WAS AGAIN, SENT OUT BY ME. 
          SO YOU SHOULD HAVE, IF YOU HAVEN'T RECEIVED IT, I'M HAPPY TO GET YOU A COPY. 
          JUST EMAIL ME DIRECTLY AND I'LL, I'LL, I'LL ATTACH AND SEND IT TO YOU. 
          SO IS WHAT YOU SEND US DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S LINKED UP ON THE AGENDA? BECAUSE I'VE ASKED THAT QUESTION BEFORE AND I'VE HEARD THEY'RE IDENTICAL, SO I DIDN'T EVEN LOOK AT WHAT YOU SENT. 
          YEAH, YEAH, IT'S IDENTICAL. 
          IT SHOULD BE. 
          SO IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA FOR TODAY'S MEETING, JUST SO YOU KNOW. 
          OKAY. 
          I THOUGHT IT WAS THERE. 
          THAT'S OKAY. 
          THE BLUEPRINT. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT I CAN GET YOU A COPY, SO JUST EMAIL ME. 
          I'M HAPPY TO GET IT FOR YOU. 
          I'VE SEEN THE ONE FROM SIX WEEKS AGO, BUT THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S GREAT. 
          UM, OKAY, HERE'S A CLARIFYING QUESTION. 
          IN YOUR PRESENTATION YOU MENTIONED URBAN FOREST PLAN, AND I'M FAMILIAR WITH SOMETHING THAT'S MORE THAN A PLAN. 
          IT'S THE URBAN FORESTRY MANAGEMENT PLAN. 
          AND, UM, I'M WONDERING, IS THAT TWO DIFFERENT THINGS? I DON'T THINK SO. 
          UM, I CAN CONFIRM, BUT I THINK IT'S THE URBAN FOREST MANAGEMENT PLAN IS WHAT WE'RE REFERRING TO. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          UH, IN, IN THE TOTAL CHART YOU HAD FOR THE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS, CAN YOU JUST POINT ME TO WHERE, OR IF THINGS LIKE, UM, ALL OF OUR CONSUMPTION OF LIKE DISPOSABLE PRODUCTS IS REPRESENTED, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S INCLUDED IN THAT PIE CHART? SO THERE IS A WHOLE ELEMENT TO RESOURCE CON TO CONSUMPTION, AND ARE THEY IN THE PIE CHART? THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION. 
          UM, LET ME, I, I, AND I'LL NEED TO LOOK THAT UP IF YOU WANNA, I'LL LOOK. 
          I CAN LOOK IT UP WHILE YOU, IF YOU HAVE ANOTHER ADDITIONAL QUESTION. 
          WELL, THAT'S, THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S JUST, UH, BASIC CURIOSITY. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE TO LOOK IT UP RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THAT'S A BIT OUTSIDE OF THE TREE COMMITTEE'S VIEW, BUT I WAS JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, SO THANKS FOR THAT OFFER. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          FOR, FOR WHEN WE, UM, FOR THAT SAME, JUST SO I UNDERSTAND IT FOR THE TABLE, WHERE YOU HAVE, WHAT OUR GOAL IS FOR REDUCING IT, I THINK THAT'S SLIDE NUMBER. 
          OH, I DON'T KNOW. 
          BUT YOU HAVE AMBITIOUS CLIMATE ACTION AND THEN YOU HAVE, WHAT DOES IT TAKE COLUMN? MM-HMM, , I'M JUST WONDERING IS DID YOU COME UP WITH THOSE NUMBERS BASED ON, UM, A CITY, LIKE A BIG CITY LIKE SAN FRANCISCO OR A REGULAR CITY OR SOMETHING THAT'S, UM, A CATEGORY FOR PETALUMA, WHICH I'VE ALWAYS UNDERSTOOD IT TO BE SUBURBAN SLASH RURAL, BECAUSE I DO SEE THAT THE, UM, THE GOALS FOR MODE, MODE SHARING SEEM A LITTLE BIT AMBITIOUS. 
          UH, IT IS ALL VERY AMBITIOUS. 
          I MEAN, AND THAT'S PART OF THE, SO HEATHER AND I WILL DO OUR BEST TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ON LIKE, SOME OF THE BACKGROUND. 
          AND HOW DID YOU COME UP WITH THAT? WE WEREN'T THE ONES WHO PUT IT TOGETHER, IT WAS RAMEY. 
          SO WE'RE TRYING TO REPRESENT THE BEST WE CAN, BUT THAT'S, IF THERE'S LIKE, DETAIL WE CAN TRY 
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TO CIRCLE BACK, BUT IT IS ALL VERY AMBITIOUS. 
          SO WHAT RAMI TRIED TO DO IN COMING UP WITH THOSE SCENARIOS WAS TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S PETALUMA ALREADY DOING? SO JUST KEEP, KEEP DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING, WHAT'S COME FROM THE STATE OR WE'RE ANTICIPATING FROM THE STATE, LET'S, LET'S TRY THIS NEXT LEVEL. 
          AND IT STILL DIDN'T GET US THERE. 
          SO THAT'S WHERE THEY ENDED UP AT THE, WHAT DOES IT TAKE? SO THEY HAD THIS DIRECTION FROM PETALUMA CARBON NEUTRALITY BY 2030. 
          SO THEY KIND OF KEPT CREATING SCENARIOS AND IT WASN'T GETTING US THERE, AND IT WASN'T GETTING US THERE. 
          AND SO THEN THEY STARTED PLAYING WITH NUMBERS LIKE, WELL, WHAT DOES IT ACTUALLY TAKE? SO YES, IT IS VERY AMBITIOUS. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THEY LOOKED AT IT THROUGH, UM, LIKE YOU SAID, THE SUBURBAN KIND OF TYPOLOGY. 
          UM, SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING GOOD. 
          WE CAN, WE CAN ASK THEM. 
          WE DID GET A RESPONSE JUST FOR CLARIFYING THAT ONE SLIDE THAT SHOWED EV IS 25% AND 25%. 
          AND WHAT THEY WERE SAYING IS WHAT CHANGED THERE WAS THE MODE SHIFT. 
          SO THOSE TWO REALLY WORKED TOGETHER. 
          SO IF IT WAS 50, I THINK ONE WAS 25% EV AND 50% MODE SHIFT, AND THE OTHER ONE WAS 25 AND 75 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND SAYING, THOSE TWO ARE REALLY WORKING TOGETHER. 
          SO IT COULD BE MORE EV AND A LITTLE LESS MODE SHIFT. 
          YOU KNOW, THAT THOSE ARE KIND OF LIKE FLUX TOGETHER. 
          UM, AND SO IT MATTERS LESS LIKE EXACTLY THE PERCENTAGE IN EV OR MODE SHIFT, BUT MORE OF THAT FLEX BETWEEN 'EM BASICALLY. 
          UM, THE RECOGNIZING THAT IT'S PROBABLY NOT REALISTIC TO GO BEYOND A 75% MODE SHIFT IF WE'RE EVEN GONNA GET THERE, BUT, OKAY. 
          PART OF THAT IS ALSO COMING, UM, FROM THE TRANSPORTATION AND THE BUILDING SECTORS BEING SUCH THE DRIVERS OF OUR GHG EMISSIONS. 
          SO REALLY RECOGNIZING THAT THOSE ARE THE THINGS WE REALLY NEED TO ATTACK AND MAKE SHIFTS. 
          AND THAT SHOWS KIND OF HOW BIG THE TRANSPORTATION IS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE THAT TYPE OF A SHIFT IN ORDER TO GET US WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND ONE CLARIFYING QUESTION, MAYBE YOU CAN HELP ME WITH HER, CINDY CAN, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE BROWN ACT AND IF WE PROVIDE OUR NOTES TO YOU, THAT'S GREAT, BUT IT KIND OF SEEMS TO ME A LITTLE BIT LIKE LEGISLATION BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. 
          SHOULD WE BE ALSO SENDING IT OR POSTING IT ONTO YOUTUBE OR SOMETHING SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN SEE IT? WELL, WE ARE COMPILING ALL OF THE COMMENTS. 
          SO FOR INSTANCE, THERE HAS BEEN, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY COME FROM AN INDIVIDUAL, THEY'RE AN INDIVIDUAL COMMENT, RIGHT? SO IT'S LIKE, LIKE ROGER FORWARDED ME HIS COMMENTS IN ADVANCE. 
          SO THOSE, THOSE ARE ROGER'S COMMENTS. 
          THEY'RE NOT THE TREE ADVISORY COMMENTS BECAUSE IT'S NOT, YOU'RE NOT LAYING OUT, UM, EVERYBODY'S COMMENTS AND SAYING, I DISAGREE WITH THAT ONE. 
          BUT I LIKE THAT ONE. 
          AND COMING UP WITH LIKE A LIST THAT YOU ALL ARE KIND OF SAYING, THESE REPRESENT US AS A COMMITTEE, SO THEY'RE INDIVIDUAL, SO AS LONG AS IT'S INDIVIDUAL, IT'S OKAY FOR US TO SEND YOU. 
          AND RIGHT. 
          AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE SENDING US THEIR COMMENTS. 
          WE HAD AN ONLINE FORUM, WE TOOK COMMENTS AT A COMMUNITY OPEN HOUSE WE HAD WHEN WE FIRST KICKED THIS OFF. 
          SO THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IS THEY WOULD BE INDIVIDUAL COMMENTS, NOT THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ENTIRE GREAT COMMITTEE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, SO, UM, NOW I CAN JUST ROLL THROUGH MY COMMENTS. 
          I HAVE IT ALL TYPED UP TOO, BUT I'LL JUST MENTION IT BECAUSE I FOUND HOWARD YOUR, UH, RECITING OF YOUR COMMENTS REALLY WAS HELPFUL FOR ME TO THINK THROUGH SOME OF THIS STUFF. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          GENERAL COMMENTS. 
          UM, I THOUGHT IT'D BE GOOD IF WE FORMALIZE OUR TACK COMMENTS BY SENDING IN THE NOTES. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          I THINK IT'S CLEARER FOR STAFF AND FOR THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION. 
          UM, IN TERMS OF CARBON NEUTRALITY, I THINK FOR THE CALCULATION OF THAT OR OUR CONCEPT OF CARBON NUT, UH, NEUTRALITY, UM, I URGE THE CITY. 
          I THINK WE MUST INCLUDE, UM, OR ACCOUNT FOR THE OFFSHORING OF OUR CARBON EMISSIONS, WHICH HAPPENS IN COUNTRIES WHERE ALL THE NEW ELECTRIC STUFF AND BATTERIES ARE BEING MANUFACTURED LIKE LITHIUM, LIKE COUNTRIES LIKE CHINA FOR THE MANUFACTURING, WHICH ARE JUST AN ABSOLUTE MESS AND THEY'RE EXCLUDED. 
          UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS FROM SOME OF THE, UH, UH, UH, CARBON SORTS OF, UH, WHATEVER YOU CALL THAT, THE WORLD ECONOMIC FORUM OR THE UN OR WHATEVER IT IS. 
          UM, SO I THINK IF, IF WE'RE GONNA BE GOOD CITIZENS FOR CARBON NEUTRALITY, WE ALSO, WE ALSO LOOK TO NOT OFFSHORE IT. 
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UM, I'D ALSO LIKE TO URGE US TO LOOK AT THE LIFE CYCLE CARBON COSTS IF WE'RE NOT ALREADY DOING THAT FOR ALL THIS NEW ELECTRIC STUFF THAT WE BUY, LIKE STOVES AND BATTERIES AND, YOU KNOW, WHERE DO THEY GO AFTERWARDS? HOW MUCH DOES IT COST TO TAKE CARE OF THAT? WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT WITH ARTIFICIAL TURF AND THE AFTERLIFE IS JUST AN ABSOLUTE NIGHTMARE. 
          UM, INCLUDE HIRING A URBAN FORESTRY MANAGER. 
          I THINK THAT'S INCLUDED SOMEWHERE ELSE, PERHAPS IN ANOTHER POLICY DOCUMENT, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE IT IN SPECIFIED SINCE SO MANY THINGS ARE SPECIFIED IN THE CARBON BLUEPRINT. 
          KIND OF PUT THAT IN THERE, A PLACEHOLDER FOR THAT. 
          WHEN ARE WE GONNA GET STAFF, UM, THAT CAN BE RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR URBAN FORESTRY MANAGEMENT PLAN? UM, ADD TO THE CARBON BLUEPRINT, UM, QUOTE UNQUOTE PROTECTION AND PROMOTION OF SOIL HEALTH, QUOTE UNQUOTE, BECAUSE THE TOTAL TREE ECOSYSTEM INCLUDES SOIL HEALTH, UM, PARTICULARLY, ESPECIALLY SOIL HEALTH BECAUSE THAT'S CRITICAL FOR CARBON SEQUESTRATION. 
          UM, REQUIRES SOIL HEALTH MONITORING FOR ALL CITY AND DEVELOPMENT GREENS SPANS. 
          SO WHERE THERE'S, I DON'T KNOW, A PARK, A REGENERATIVE THING, UH, LANDSCAPING, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT OPEN LAND IS SUCKING CARBON. 
          UM, AND THAT WILL GIVE US A BOOST, I THINK WITH, IF WE ACCOUNT FOR THAT GETTING TO CARBON NEUTRALITY, I THINK WE SHOULD BAN ARTIFICIAL TURF BECAUSE THAT'S A LARGE SCALE, LARGE AREA SOIL KILLER. 
          AND IT ABSOLUTELY REMOVES WHATEVER THE ACREAGE IS OF A PLAYING FIELD FROM THE ABILITY OF THAT LAND TO BE OPEN AND TO SEQUESTER CARBON. 
          AND EVEN IF WE REMOVED, IF FOR SOME REASON THAT ARTIFICIAL TURF GOT REMOVED AND NOTHING WAS REPLACING IT, THAT SOIL'S DEAD. 
          AND IT'S NOT GONNA BE SEQUESTERING ANY CARBON. 
          UM, INCLUDE A CARBON SEQUESTRATION VALUE SCHEME OR CALCULATION FOR SOIL HEALTH. 
          ALSO INCLUDE IT FOR TREE HEALTH. 
          AND I'LL SEND IN THE CALCULATION RESOURCES THAT I'VE FOUND, UM, PER THE POINT THAT HEATHER MADE OF CLIMATE SMART WORKING LANDS, UM, DO IMPLEMENT A BAN OF ALL ARTIFICIAL TURF FOR ALL PLAY OF FIELDS AND ALL CITY LAND. 
          I KNOW THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION WAS ON BOARD WITH THIS. 
          I DO THINK WE SHOULD ALSO, LIKE THE CITY OF MILLBURY JUST PASSED AN ORDINANCE ON THIS. 
          IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS WHEN THEY WILL PLAN TO EXTEND THE BAN TO PRIVATE LAND SO THAT THEY GIVE THE PRIVATE LAND A LITTLE BIT OF EASE. 
          UM, NOT AN IMMEDIATE TRANSITION OR FINANCIAL HARDSHIP, BUT IT'S IN THE PLAN. 
          UM, NEXT POINT, FULLY STAFF AND HIRE FOR OPEN PARKS, MAINTENANCE STAFF POSITIONS WHICH HAVE CHRONICALLY BEEN OPEN OVER THE LAST NUMBER OF YEARS. 
          WE NEED TO ONBOARD PEOPLE THAT ARE GOOD WITH GARDENING, THAT ARE ON STAFF THAT UNDERSTAND SOIL HEALTH, ET CETERA. 
          UNDERSTAND PERHAPS HOW TO TRIM AND PRUNE AND MAINTAIN TREES. 
          UM, HERE NEXT POINT, ADD DREDGING ALONG THE FLOOD WALL. 
          IT'S NEVER BEEN DREDGED. 
          AND WITH THE CURRENT STORMS, YOU'RE GONNA SEE A LOT OF SILT WAS DUMPED IN FROM WASHINGTON CREEK INTO THE RIVER. 
          AND WITH A SHALLOWER RIVER THAT JUST INCREASES THE RISK OF FLOODING, ESPECIALLY PER CLIMATE CHANGE AND SEA LEVEL RISE, THAT IS A TITLE SEGMENT OF THE RIVER. 
          SO IF WE WANNA GET THE FLOOD RISK DOWN, WE ACTUALLY NEED TO, UM, INCLUDE PLANS TO DREDGE ALONG THAT FLOOD WALL. 
          OKAY, LET'S SEE. 
          I THINK THAT, OH, WITH THE NUMBERS THAT YOU HAD IN YOUR STAFF REPORT, I ONLY HAVE COMMENTS FOR NUMBER TWO. 
          MAKE THIS A CITY TREES, STREET TREES AND PRIVATE TREES. 
          UM, UH, UH, CANOPY MAP VIA THE LICENSE SATELLITE DATA THAT'S AVAILABLE. 
          UM, AND THEN WE CAN LEVERAGE, LEVERAGE THE TOTAL CITYWIDE CANOPY DATA TO SUPPORT THE URBAN FOR FORESTRY MANAGEMENT PLAN, UM, PER A COMPREHENSIVE CITY AND STREET TREE MONITORING PROGRAM, WHICH BEST PRACTICE CITIES DO, SO THAT THEY'RE ALWAYS ON TOP OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE. 
          AND THEN ALSO IS BACKGROUND INFORMATION, DATA FOR ANY PERMITS THAT COME INTO PUBLIC WORKS. 
          ONCE WE HAVE, OR PLANNING, ONCE WE HAVE THE NEW ORDINANCE, UM, THEY'LL BE WANTING TO SEE WHAT'S THERE, WHAT THE CONTEXT IS FOR WHAT'S THERE. 
          AND TO HAVE THAT CANOPY MAP AS A TOOL FOR STAFF WILL BE REALLY HELPFUL AND VERY EFFICIENT. 
          UM, AND THEN 
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NUMBER POINT NUMBER THREE, ADD GROWTH OF TREE CANOPY. 
          RIGHT NOW IT JUST SAYS AN ORDINANCE THAT PRIORITIZES TREE PROTECTION, BUT I THINK WE DISCUSSED BEFORE ADDING A SECONDARY GOAL, WHICH IS GROWTH OF OUR OVERALL TREE CANOPY. 
          FOR YOUR POINT NUMBER SEVEN, TWO COMMENTS PLEASE. 
          UM, PLEASE SPECIFY THIS, UM, , UH, THAT IT'S NOT JUST AN URBAN FOREST PLAN, IT'S AN URBAN FORESTRY MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. 
          AND THEN THE SECOND THING WOULD BE INCLUDE THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          UM, YOU LIST A LOT OF THINGS THAT YOU WANNA DEVELOP WITH COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, BUT THERE'S NO MENTION IN THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          I KNOW TONIGHT THERE'S A RELIEF PRESENTATION ON TREES TO BE PLANTED AT LYNCH CREEK AND SOME OTHER PLACES. 
          I HADN'T HEARD OF THAT AND I WONDERED WHY IT WASN'T BROUGHT BEFORE THE TREE COMMITTEE. 
          'CAUSE WE DO HAVE VALUE TO ADD. 
          UM, AND I THINK THAT, UM, ADDING THE TREE COMMITTEE WOULD BE HELPFUL. 
          MY FINAL POINT HERE IS NUMBER 12, NO OFFSETTING OFFSETTINGS ARE A SCAM. 
          IT'S A SHELL GAME AND IT JUST OFFSETS OR IT PRESENTS A HUGE LOOPHOLE FOR SOME OTHER COMMUNITY, FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND REALLY OBFUSCATES OUR ABILITY TO MEASURE, CALCULATE, AND ENSURE THAT WE ARE TRULY GETTING TO OUR CARBON NEUTRALITY GOALS. 
          THAT'S IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND, UM, I DO HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU ON THE, UM, ON YOUR QUESTION ABOUT RESOURCE CONSUMPTION. 
          UM, AND SO I JUST WANTED TO RESPOND. 
          SO THE, THE CHART THAT I SHOWED, UM, DOES NOT INCLUDE THE RESOURCE CONSUMPTION BECAUSE THOSE ARE DIRECT EMISSIONS AND RESOURCE CONSUMPTION IS CONSIDERED INDIRECT. 
          SO IT'S ON A, IT'S ACTUALLY A SEPARATE CHART THAT WAS NOT IN THE PRESENTATION, BUT I'M HAPPY TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU CAN FIND IT 'CAUSE IT'S IN AN APPENDIX. 
          UM, BUT THERE ARE ACTIONS IN THE PLAN THAT ARE, UM, ADDRESSING REDUCING GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS FROM RESOURCE CONSUMPTION. 
          SO IT IS CONSIDERED IN THERE. 
          THAT'S TERRIFIC. 
          I HOPE WE GET CREDIT FOR IT. 
          THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, NO SINGLE USE PLASTIC THINGS AND STUFF THAT WE SHOULD GET SOME CREDIT FOR MAKING CHANGES ALONG THOSE LINES. 
          BUT THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU TARYN. 
          GO AHEAD DARREN. 
          UH, THANK YOU AND I'LL KEEP MY COMMENTS RELATIVELY BRIEF JUST 'CAUSE I GOT TO SEE THIS AT PBA C AND I DON'T KNOW IF PLANNING COMMISSION'S GONNA SEE IT AGAIN. 
          SO I'M GONNA HAVE THREE BITES AT THE APPLE . 
          UM, I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT OVERALL, YOU KNOW, WHEN LOOKING AT THIS DOCUMENT, UH, WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT HOW THIS HARMONIZES WITH THE GENERAL PLAN AND THE OTHER SUPPORTING PLANS LIKE THE UFMP, THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN. 
          I'M CURIOUS KIND OF HOW THOSE WILL SIT TOGETHER. 
          I THINK THERE'S CHALLENGES WHEN IT COMES TO SPECIFICITY OF THIS PLAN AND HOW MUCH IT DEFERS TO SAY WE WILL DO THIS IN X PLAN THAT WILL KIND OF EXPAND ON THAT. 
          AND, AND I ACTUALLY LIKE THAT TACT RATHER THAN THIS BEING TOO PRESCRIPTIVE. 
          'CAUSE THEN I THINK IT PREEMPTS OR CIRCUMVENTS SOME OF THOSE OTHER PROCESSES. 
          AND I'M GONNA GIVE SOME EXAMPLES IN TRANSPORTATION AND LAND USE REALLY QUICKLY THAT I THINK WE'RE KIND OF JUMPING BEFORE OUR ZONING CODE AND JUMPING BEFORE OUR GENERAL PLAN LAND USE AND KIND OF MANDATING A PATH FORWARD THAT I THINK REALLY SHOULD BE DEFERRED TO THOSE PROCESSES. 
          UH, SO GETTING RIGHT INTO THAT, I'M ON PAGE 53 AND 54 OF THE NUMBERED PAGES. 
          IT'S ACTUALLY 59 AND 60 OF PDF PAGES ON THIS IS TRANSPORTATION AND LAND USE COORDINATION. 
          UM, ONE THAT STUCK OUT TO ME. 
          CITY IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGY, ONE E REFERENCES, BASICALLY IMPLEMENTING AN ORDINANCE, UH, ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT SB 10 ALLOWS. 
          I WOULD HESITATE TO KIND OF PRESCRIBE THAT AT THIS POINT. 
          I THINK THE JURY IS A LITTLE STILL OUT ON SB 10. 
          I GET HOW IT FITS WITH THE TENOR OF WHAT THIS DOCUMENT IS PROMOTING IN TERMS OF MORE EFFICIENT LAND USE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          UH, I THINK THERE ARE STORIES OUTTA SAN DIEGO ABOUT SB 10 KIND OF HAVING NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORHOODS AND I THINK THERE'S SOME PUBLIC SENTIMENT AGAINST THAT. 
          SO RATHER THAN KIND OF MANDATING IT HERE AND HA HAVING THE APPEARANCE THAT WE'RE NOT ALLOWING THAT KIND OF DECISION TO WORK THROUGH THE GENERAL PLAN OR OUR ZONING CODE, UH, TO MAYBE NOT REFERENCE SOMETHING AS SPECIFICALLY OR MAYBE ADD A QUALIFIER BEFORE THAT TO LIGHTEN THE LANGUAGE. 
          I'VE REFERENCED THAT A COUPLE TIMES IN MY NOTES. 
          LIKE, COULD WE PUT EXPLORE THE POTENTIALS OR WHICH I THINK PEOPLE ON THE CLIMATE COMMITTEE MAY SAY, WELL WE WANT MORE TEETH AND WE WANT THIS TO BE STRONGER. 
          I KIND OF HAVE OF THE OPINION THAT, AGAIN, BECAUSE THIS HAS TO TALK WITH SO MANY OTHER DOCUMENTS, I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT THIS TO DICTATE WHAT OUR ZONING CODE WILL LOOK LIKE BEFORE OUR ZONING CODE IS GENERATED. 
          UH, I THINK IT CAN PUT A PREFERENCE 
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IN A DIRECTION, BUT I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD SEEM LIKE IT'S KIND OF PRESCRIBING A DIRECTION. 
          UM, AND THEN WE UH, JUMP TO CITY IMPLEMENTATION THE SAME PAGES. 
          CITY IMPLEMENTATION THREE POINT A TALKS ABOUT FORMING A 15 MINUTE NEIGHBORHOOD WORKING GROUP. 
          JUST CURIOUS WHAT THAT WORKING GROUP WOULD LOOK LIKE, WHAT THEY WOULD DO BESIDES PROMOTING POLICIES TO SUPPORT 15 MINUTE NEIGHBORHOODS, WHICH ARE TALKED ABOUT BROADLY THROUGHOUT THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN. 
          UH, SO THAT WAS KIND OF A QUESTION MARK I HAD, UH, CITY IMPLEMENTATION ITEM FOUR, THE ZONING CODE SAYS IT'LL BE UPDATED UNTIL 2028. 
          UM, IF I AM NOT CONFLATING TERMS AND THAT IS THE IZOI WAS HOPING WE COULD HAVE THAT TIMELINE A LITTLE SOONER. 
          I KNOW THE GENERAL PLAN HAS TO FINISH FIRST AND THEN THE IZO, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT TIMELINE, BUT ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO MOVE THAT UP, BECAUSE AGAIN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS THAT WILL WIND UP IN THE ZONING CODE. 
          SO IT WOULD BE NICE TO KIND OF HAVE THAT PROCESS START IN PARALLEL TO A LOT OF THIS. 
          UM, AND THEN CITY IMPLEMENTATION FOR C, AGAIN, I JUST PUT IN THERE EXPLORE INCREASES. 
          UH, THIS TALKS ABOUT MANDATING INCREASES IN DENSITY. 
          UH, AND I THINK WE NEED TO SAY SOMETHING IN THERE AND LET ME CHECK MY CHECK MY WORK HERE. 
          'CAUSE I THINK WE NEED TO SAY SOMETHING IN THERE ABOUT EXPLORING RATHER THAN SEEMING LIKE WE'RE BEING OVERLY PRESCRIPTIVE, UH, IN THIS DOCUMENT. 
          AND TO AVOID BEING REPETITIVE YEAH, CONSIDER INCENTIVES LIKE DENSITY BONUS. 
          AND SO I I JUST WANT TO, YEAH, AGAIN, HAVE, HAVE THAT SOFTENED A LITTLE BIT TO DEFER SOME OF THAT FINAL DECISION MAKING OR POLICY MAKING TO THE ACTUAL GENERAL PLAN AND ZONING CODE DOCUMENTS. 
          UM, AND THEN THE NATURAL SYSTEMS AND SEQUESTRATION ACTION PLAN, THAT'S KIND OF THE FOCUS OF TREE COMMITTEE. 
          I WAS ACTUALLY SURPRISED THAT A LOT OF THE THINGS I WAS CONCERNED WOULDN'T BE IN THERE DID SHOW UP. 
          I WANT TO KIND OF DO A DITTO TO HOWARD AND TERRANCE COMMENTS ABOUT THE SPECIFICITY. 
          AND I HAVE A LOT OF NOTES THAT I'M GONNA SEND IN AGAIN ALONG WITH MY PBA NOTES. 
          UH, BUT I THINK IN GENERAL, THIS IS ON PAGES 79 AND 80, WHICH ARE 85 AND 86 OF THE PDF PAGES. 
          UM, CITY IMPLEMENTATION ITEM 10, CARBON SEQUESTRATION CAPACITY. 
          AGAIN, I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE THAT UP RIGHT NOW. 
          IT TALKS ABOUT CALCULATING OUR BASELINE CARBON SEQUESTRATION IN 2027. 
          I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT MOVED UP TO 26 AND DONE ALONG WITH THE UFMP. 
          I KNOW WE HAVE A BUDGET FOR THAT. 
          IT MAY BE OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF THAT, BUT IF THERE'S ANY WAY WE COULD HARMONIZE THOSE EFFORTS AND MAYBE PUT SOMETHING IN THERE ABOUT REVISING THAT THERE WILL BE ELEMENTS OF AN URBAN FORESTRY MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT ARE REVISED YEAR ON YEAR. 
          I THINK OUR SEQUESTRATION CALCULATION SHOULD BE ONE OF THOSE THINGS. 
          UH, BECAUSE I THINK GENERALLY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CARBON NEUTRALITY, THERE'S KIND OF THE EMISSION SIDE OF THE EQUATION AND THEN THERE'S AGAIN THE SEQUESTRATION, WHICH I OFTEN THINK OF AS THE ACTUAL CYCLING CAPACITY, OUR BIOLOGICAL CAPACITY TO CYCLE THAT CARBON BACK INTO THE ENVIRONMENT. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S THE AREA THAT PEOPLE ON THIS COMMITTEE WANT TO SEE REALLY MADE MORE ROBUST. 
          UH, AND I THINK A BIG PART OF THAT IS CALCULATING, CALCULATING WHAT IS OUR BASELINE. 
          SO I THINK WITHOUT THAT CALCULATION WE'RE KIND OF MISSING ONE BIG PART OF THIS CARBON NEUTRALITY FORMULA. 
          SO I WANNA SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO MOVE THAT TIMELINE UP AND MAKE SURE THAT, AND I'M SURE RAMI HAS ALL THE TOOLS AVAILABLE, BUT THAT THIS IS KIND OF AS ROBUST A CALCULATION AS WE CAN DO THAT INCLUDES SOME OF THOSE ADDITIONAL IMPACTS OF THE RISE OPHERE, RIGHT? THE SURROUNDING SOIL MICROORGANISMS IN THE ROOT NETWORKS OF TREES. 
          WHAT WE CAN DO TO TRY TO CAPTURE THAT GIVEN OUR, OUR CURRENT TREE COUNT IN THE CITY, WHICH WILL BE COUNTED AS PART OF THE UFMP. 
          SO I THINK THEY GO TOGETHER REALLY WELL. 
          UH, AND THEN YES, CITY IMPLEMENTATION ITEM 12 ABOUT OFFSETS. 
          I THINK CREDITS AND OFFSETS ARE KIND OF GOING THROUGH A BIG CRITIQUE AT THE MOMENT. 
          UH, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA NOT TRY TO RELY ON THAT AS ONE OF OUR STRATEGIES. 
          I THINK THERE'S SO MANY OTHER GOOD STRATEGIES IN THERE TO FOCUS ON. 
          UH, AN IDEA THAT I KNOW BEN ANDERSON PUT FORWARD, IT MIGHT'VE BEEN BAKED IN THERE OR THIS MIGHT'VE BEEN KIND OF DEFERRED TO THE UFMP, BUT A TREE BANK THAT THE CITY GENERATES USING FEES COLLECTED FROM ORDINANCE ENFORCEMENT. 
          UH, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WOULD SHOW UP IN LANGUAGE HERE, BUT LIKE A CITY APPROVED, MAYBE YOU SAY NATIVE TREE BANK OR APPROVED STREET TREE TREE BANK OR SOMETHING THAT WOULD JUST ADD TO THE PROMOTION EFFORTS OF GETTING FOLKS TO PLANT MORE TREES IF THEY COULD GO AND GET THE RIGHT KIND OF TREE, YOU KNOW, NOT NECESSARILY AN ORNAMENTAL PAIR, BUT MAYBE A SYCAMORE. 
          AND IF THE CITY WAS ABLE TO FUND A BANK LIKE THAT, I THINK THAT WOULD GO A LONG WAY. 
          THAT WAS KIND OF A, A GREAT IDEA, I THOUGHT BEN HAD MENTIONED AT A PRIOR MEETING. 
          UH, AND THEN I WONDERED IF IT WAS WORTH PUTTING IN THERE ANYTHING ABOUT BUILDING CITY STAFF CAPACITY AND OR PARTNERING WITH A THIRD PARTY ARBORIST, WHICH IS KIND OF OUR MODEL RIGHT NOW TO IMPLEMENT OUR URBAN FORESTRY STRATEGY. 
          UH, AGAIN, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING IT'S JUST IN THE UFMP, WE DON'T HAVE TO GET LOST IN THE WEEDS HERE, BUT IT DOES SEEM LIKE WE'RE GETTING INTO SOME DETAIL HERE. 
          SO I THINK IT'S WORTH PUTTING IN WRITING THAT THE CITY, AGAIN, MAYBE YOU QUALIFY IT, SAY WE'RE EXPLORING HOW TO BUILD OUT STAFF CAPACITY TO ASSIST WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION 
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OF URBAN FORESTRY. 
          BECAUSE I THINK WHERE THIS PLAN REALLY HAS ITS STRENGTH, I KNOW I'M SAYING, HEY, DON'T MAKE THIS KIND OF THE END ALL POLICY DOCUMENT THAT'S KIND OF DICTATING FUTURE DOCUMENTS. 
          BUT I THINK AS A A, A DOCUMENT TO SOURCE LEGITIMACY FROM FUTURE BUDGETS AND FUTURE CITY PROJECTS, I THINK IT REALLY HELPS TO PUT IN THERE, HEY, WE'RE GONNA BUILD STAFF CAPACITY SO THEN IF CINDY OR ANOTHER DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO GO GET BUDGET TO ADD STAFF TO IMPLEMENT THE STRATEGY, IT'S IN THIS AND THAT WE CAN KIND OF SOURCE LEGITIMACY FROM THIS DOCUMENT THERE. 
          UH, AND THEN ACROSS THE BOARD, I THINK SOIL HEALTH, UH, EDUCATION INITIATIVES, WHICH ACTUALLY WERE MENTIONED THROUGHOUT, WHICH MADE ME VERY HAPPY. 
          I SAW A COUPLE PLACES WHERE THAT WAS MENTIONED. 
          UH, I THINK WE COULD HAVE TIMELINES MOVED UP ON ALL OF THOSE. 
          UH, LIKE I SAID ABOUT CARBON SEQUESTRATION OR THAT CYCLING CAPACITY SIDE OF THE EQUATION. 
          I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A BIG FOCUS THERE. 
          I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT REALLY, YOU KNOW, I THINK SO MUCH OF THE CURRENT LEGISLATIVE FRAMEWORK IS ALREADY TAILORING OR LOWERING EMISSIONS THAT WE COULD DO A LOT TO, TO KIND OF MOVE TIMELINES UP WHEN IT COMES TO SOIL HEALTH AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          UH, AND THEN I WONDERED IF IT WOULD BE WORTH ADDING A RECOGNITION OF THE IMPORTANCE OF SOIL MICROORGANISMS AND FUNGI. 
          SOIL MICROORGANISMS MIGHT HAVE BEEN MENTIONED WHEN IT TALKS ABOUT SOIL HEALTH. 
          BUT I THINK PUTTING THAT LANGUAGE IN THERE ABOUT FUNGIS, WE TALK ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF TREES, I THINK WE CAN ADD A DEPEND ON LIKE END THERE, THE MICRO OR SOIL MICROORGANISMS AND FUNGI, THEY SUPPORT SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT THEY, UH, UM, ARE IN SYMBIOSIS WITH LANGUAGE KIND OF MATTERS. 
          AND I THINK RIGHT NOW, FUNGI, I MEAN MANY PEOPLE HERE MIGHT KNOW CALIFORNIA JUST PASSED AN ASSEMBLY BUILD AND NAME A STATE MUSHROOM FOR CALIFORNIA. 
          HAD A LOT OF LANGUAGE IN THERE ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF FUNGI. 
          AND I THINK A LOT OF MUNICIPALITIES ARE GONNA BE MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION TO ACTUALLY EXPLICITLY STATE LOOK WHERE THESE ORGANISMS ARE IN OUR LEGISLATION. 
          WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW THIS IS GONNA SHOW UP ASIDE, YOU KNOW, FROM PROMOTING GENERAL SOIL HEALTH, BUT I THINK IT'S WORTH MENTIONING THEM, UH, OR STARTING TO LIKE WE DO TREES. 
          UM, SO YEAH, THOSE ARE MY NOTES. 
          I'LL SEND MORE DETAIL RIGHT UP. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANKS DARREN. 
          CAN I JUST, UH, ONE CLARIFICATION ZONING CODE WILL HAPPEN BEFORE 2028, SO WE'LL, WE'LL CORRECT THAT. 
          WE'RE LOOKING AT 20 25, 20 26, LIKE TO HAVE IT START IN TANDEM, UM, WITH THE GENERAL PLAN AND BE, UH, READY FOR ADOPTION SHORTLY AFTER. 
          WE DON'T WANNA START IT ONCE THE GENERAL PLAN IS ADOPTED, WE WANNA BE IN LOCKSTEP WITH IT. 
          SO IT COMES SHORTLY AFTER I HAD A FEELING AND KNOWING IT WAS GOING BEFORE PLANNING. 
          I WAS LIKE, BLAKE IS GONNA SAY SOMETHING ABOUT IT. 
          YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. 
          I'M I'M, THANK YOU FOR CALLING THAT OUT. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING I WOULD'VE BEEN ALL OVER, BUT I MUST HAVE MISSED THAT REFERENCE, SO THANK YOU. 
          I REALLY, YEAH, I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF COMMENTS, BUT, UM, SO BIG PART OF THE, UM, OUR WAY OF GETTING TO OUR GOALS IS, UM, REDUCING, UM, TRANSPORTATION COSTS AND ELECTRIFYING HOMES. 
          AND I RAN A POOL BLOCK AND GOT A UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL LOOK AT THE OBSTACLES. 
          UM, MY BLOCK HAD RENTERS, IT HAD, UM, WHEN I WAS TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO JOIN, I HAD A LOT OF APATHY, UM, AND, UH, PEOPLE ON FIXED INCOME. 
          SO, UM, AND OLD HOUSES. 
          SO YOU KNOW HOW THESE ARE ALL THE, YOU KNOW, OBSTACLES WHERE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY, MONEY TO PUT IN EV CHARGERS OR BUY ELECTRIC CARS OR REMODEL THEIR HOMES. 
          UM, BUT, UM, GETTING BACK TO, TO TREES, UM, I, UM, CAN THINK OF SOME, UM, ACHIEVABLE, UM, THINGS THAT WE COULD DO. 
          THE, THERE WAS SOMETHING IN THERE ABOUT, UM, LOWERING PEOPLE'S, UM, WATER BILLS IF THEY PUT, UM, AGREE TO PLANT TREES. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO. 
          UM, UH, HOPEFULLY IN THE GENERAL PLAN WE'LL HAVE A PERMANENT OR, UM, FOREST TO READ DEPARTMENTS SO THAT SOME OF THE BURDENS WILL BE OFF OF RESIDENTS IF THEY CHOOSE, UM, SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO AP, UM, PRUNE THEIR OWN TREES. 
          UM, THE OTHER THING I THOUGHT OF THAT WE COULD DO IS HAVE A NUMBER, UM, THAT PEOPLE COULD CALL IT THE CITY IF THEY WANT. 
          I THINK, UM, DARREN MENTIONED THIS, IF THEY WANT HELP WITH CHOOSING TREES, UH, REMOVING CONCRETE, UM, FIGURING OUT HOW TO APPLY FOR THE, UM, WATER BILL REDUCTION, UM, CHOOSING, UM, THE, THE RIGHT TREE. 
          UM, SO THOSE WERE SOME OF MY THOUGHTS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO. 
          ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD KAREN. 
          I HAVE A SENSE OF THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS DOCUMENT AS IT RELATES TO THE GENERAL PLAN AS A POLICY DOCUMENT OR, UM, BECAUSE I'VE, I'VE ANALYZED 
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SOME, UM, SOME DEVELOPMENTS BEFORE AND I SEE THAT THEY HAVE TO BE TIED THE, THE EIR REFERENCES, THE GENERAL PLAN. 
          SO WOULD YOU MIND PLEASE CLARIFYING FOR ME WHAT THE POLICY SIGNIFICANCE OR WEIGHT IS OF THIS CARBON BLUEPRINT DOCUMENT AS AN OFFICIAL YES, OFFICIAL, UH, SUPPORTIVE POLICY DOCUMENT TO THE GENERAL PLAN? THANK YOU. 
          SO, UM, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED WITH THE GENERAL PLAN, UH, THE CLIMATE ACTION AND ADAPTATION PLAN WAS GOING TO BE PART OF THAT EFFORT. 
          UM, AND IT WAS SPECIFIC TO BE ACTION AND ADAPTATION. 
          UM, THE TIMELINE FOR THE GENERAL PLAN BECAME OBVIOUS IT WAS GONNA TAKE LONGER THAN WE HAD THOUGHT. 
          AND LARGELY THAT WAS BECAUSE OF THE MODELING FOR FLOODING AND SEA LEVEL RISE THAT ENDED UP TAKING A LOT LONGER THAN WE HAD ANTICIPATED IT TAKING. 
          MEANWHILE, WE WERE DECLARING CARBON NEUTRALITY BY 2030, SO WE SEPARATED THE GREENHOUSE GAS ASPECT OF IT, THE BLUEPRINT. 
          SO THE BLUEPRINT IS SPECIFIC ON REDUCING GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS IN LINE WITH OUR CARBON NEUTRALITY GOALS BECAUSE OUR CARBON NEUTRALITY GOAL WAS 2030. 
          IT WAS LIKE, WE NEED TO  BE DOING THIS NOW. 
          WE NEED TO NOT WAIT UNTIL WE'RE DONE WITH THESE OTHER PARTS. 
          UM, SO WE KIND OF DECIDED TO SEPARATE THAT, WHICH IS WHY THIS IS OUT AHEAD OF THE ADAPTATION, WHICH WE REALLY COULDN'T FULLY START ON UNTIL WE HAD THAT SEA LEVEL RISE AND FLOODING MODELING AND AS PART OF THE GENERAL PLAN. 
          SO THAT IS NOW GONNA BE WRAPPED UP INTO THE GENERAL PLAN. 
          UH, THERE IS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT MAYBE THAT GETS WRAPPED INTO THIS DOCUMENT AS A LATER REVISION. 
          SO IT ACTUALLY BECOMES THE CLIMATE ACTION AND ADAPTATION PLAN IN THE FUTURE. 
          THAT'S KIND OF, UM, UNSURE, BUT THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE GOT WHERE WE GOT, WHY WE'VE GOT THE BLUEPRINT OUT IN FRONT, BECAUSE WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE DOING WHAT WE COULD AS SOON AS WE COULD. 
          UM, AS WE HAVE DISCUSSED, IT IS AMBITIOUS. 
          THERE'S A LOT IN HERE. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER PIECE OF THIS IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE THE BUDGETING AND PRIORITIZATION, UM, EACH YEAR TO HAVE THE RESOURCES TO DO IT. 
          THIS IS NOT, I MEAN, WE COULD STOP EVERYTHING OTHER THAN IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS, AND IT'S STILL A REALLY AMBITIOUS, SO IT'S, IT WOULD DEFINITELY BE, UM, YOU KNOW, AN ADOPTED BLUEPRINT OF HOW WE'RE GONNA GET THERE, BUT WE HAVE TO INCORPORATE IT INTO BUDGETING, PRIORITIZATION, UM, IN ORDER TO, SO THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA BE A FUTURE PIECE OF IT EACH YEAR IS WHAT, WHAT ARE WE TAKING ON THIS YEAR? WHERE'S THE BUDGET? WHERE ARE THE RESOURCES? HOW ARE WE GONNA DO IT? WHAT ARE OUR PARTNERS IN THE COMMUNITY? WE'VE GOT AMAZING PARTNERS. 
          UM, AND A LOT OF IT IS THAT THE EDUCATION OBVIOUSLY IS ANOTHER COMPONENT OF IT. 
          UM, SO I DON'T HAVE LIKE A PERFECT ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION, BUT IT'S, WE'RE TRYING TO PUT OUT THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO DO AND THEN HOW DO WE IMPLEMENT IT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS WITH BUDGET RESOURCES PRIORITIZATION. 
          I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT THE ANALOGY THEN IS LIKE A BLUEPRINT FOR A HUGE HOUSE, BUT YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO BUILD IT ALL AT ONCE. 
          SO, BUT YOU KNOW, OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS YOU PRETTY MUCH WANNA DO AS MUCH OF IT AS YOU CAN. 
          SO EVERY YEAR YOU REASSESS AND YOU COMMIT TO ACCOMPLISHING CERTAIN THINGS TO GET YOU TO YOUR GOAL. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND YOU KNOW, WE DO SO MUCH MORE THESE DAYS WITH GRANT FUNDING, BUT YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT GRANT'S GONNA COME UP. 
          SO A GRANT OPPORTUNITY COMES UP AND YOU'RE LIKE, WE SAID WE WERE GONNA DO THIS, BUT HERE'S THIS OPPORTUNITY. 
          AND SO WE HAVE TO REMAIN A LITTLE BIT AGILE AND FLEXIBLE TO, TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS WHAT, TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT COME UP SO THAT, THAT IT WILL DEFINITELY BE ANOTHER PIECE OF IT. 
          DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS THEN HOWARD AND CHAIR? YES, IF YOU DON'T MIND, JUST MAYBE I'LL ADDRESS A COUPLE THINGS. 
          I THINK THERE WAS JUST A LOT OF COMMENTARY ON THE SOIL HEALTH AND LIKE TIMING AND YOU KNOW, HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS, UM, AND THE, THE BLUEPRINT'S MOVING FORWARD. 
          BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN STAFF AND OPERATIONS ISN'T WORKING TO MOVE TOWARDS THINGS. 
          SO AT THE END OF THE MONTH, YOU KNOW, I'M BRINGING CHIP OSBORNE BACK FROM OSBORNE ORGANICS. 
          HE'S BEEN OUT TO PETALUMA A COUPLE TIMES TO DO ORGANIC TURF MANAGEMENT AND A, A HALLMARK OF KIND OF HIS PROCESS IS THE SOIL HEALTH 
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TESTING IT, UM, TO GET PARK STAFF TRAINED UP AND SO THAT WE CAN PILOT ORGANIC TURF MAINTENANCE IN A COUPLE OF OUR PLAYING FIELDS. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THOUGHT BEHIND IT. 
          WE'VE STARTED KIND OF THE PRACTICE OF SWITCHING OUT OF OUR TOOLS TO ELECTRIC. 
          I HAD THE CARB TRAILER COME LAST YEAR AND I NORMALLY REPORT THIS OUT TO REC COMMISSION, I GUESS I HAVEN'T BROUGHT TO TREE COMMITTEE, BUT TESTING OUT DIFFERENT TOOLS FROM DIFFERENT LINES OF ELECTRIC TOOLS TO SEE WHAT WE CAN SWITCH OUT. 
          SO WE'VE STARTED THAT PROCESS. 
          UM, OH YEAH, IT, IT'S ON. 
          OKAY. 
          OH, SORRY IT'S ON. 
          UM, BUT YOU KNOW, SO THERE, THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING, MAYBE BOOTS ON THE GROUND THAT YOU GUYS JUST DON'T GET TO SEE ALL THE TIME. 
          BUT I'M HAPPY AS THOSE THINGS DO CHANGE. 
          I'LL BRING IT TO YOU SO YOU KNOW, YOU'RE AWARE THAT WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE CHANGE. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, THIS BLUEPRINT IS HAPPENING, BUT STAFF IS ALSO WORKING MAYBE IN FRONT OF IT SOMETIMES, UM, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT WE NEED CHANGE, RIGHT? AND WE'RE ALL BEHIND THAT. 
          UM, THE ORGANIC TURF MANAGEMENT IS KIND OF JUST REALLY EXCITING FOR US, NOT BECAUSE THE STAFF DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT, IT'S JUST OUR BANDWIDTH AND KIND OF OUR RESOURCES. 
          AND SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THE WHOLE TEAM'S ON THE SAME PAGE SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD TOGETHER. 
          SO THAT'S JUST REALLY EXCITING TO SHARE WITH YOU SINCE IT WAS BROUGHT UP SO MUCH TODAY. 
          BUT IN VEHICLES TOO, YOU KNOW, UM, I, I SHOULD, WE'RE IN THE BUDGET PROCESS NOW, BUT I'M REQUESTING A COUPLE OF ELECTRIC MOWERS TO GET IN TO OUR ARSENAL AND TAKE OUT SOME OF THE OLD JOHN DEERE MOWERS THAT, YOU KNOW, AND AS EQUIPMENT, YOU KNOW, LIKE GANG MOWERS, THEY'RE JUST A BIG MOD DECK. 
          THEY HAVEN'T MADE THOSE ELECTRIC YET. 
          WE DO HOPE THAT WE CAN SWITCH THOSE OUT, RIGHT. 
          SO AS IT COMES ONLINE, WE, WE ARE KIND OF TRYING TO WALK IN FRONT OF THAT. 
          SO I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE, WE ARE, WE'RE TRYING TO BE IN FRONT OF THIS BECAUSE WE KNOW WHAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN OVERNIGHT AND WE NEED, WE NEED TO BE WORKING ON IT EVERY DAY. 
          SO THERE'S, THERE IS SOME THOUGHT BEHIND IT. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. 
          AND I LOVE, I JUST LOVE SAYING ORGANIC TURF MANAGEMENT. 
          SO  UM, WAS THAT IT FOR A STAFF COMMENT THEN? YEAH, THEN I WOULD MOVE THAT WE ADJOURN UNLESS THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. 
          COMMITTEE COMMENT, QUESTION. 
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OH, COMMITTEE COMMENTS. 
          SORRY. 
          YES, PLEASE GO AHEAD. 
          I'M JUST CURIOUS 'CAUSE I LIVE RIGHT NEXT TO LYNCH CREEK AND UM, REALLY ENJOY WALKING THERE IN THE SUMMERTIME. 
          'CAUSE THE CANOPY WAS REALLY JUST LAST YEAR AFTER THE BIG RAINS LAST YEAR REALLY STARTING TO COVER YOU IN THE SUN. 
          AND I JUST, I'VE BEEN WALKING IT IN THE LAST FEW DAYS. 
          I'VE NOTICED THAT SO MANY TREES WERE CUT DOWN THERE. 
          ARE YOU ABLE TO TELL US WHAT'S GOING ON? YOU? I CAN'T ONLY BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T DONE ANY WORK PARKS HASN'T DONE ANY WORK ALONG LCT. 
          UM, SO I, I'LL HAVE TO CHECK IN AND SEE IF ANY OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS HAVE DONE WORK AROUND ALONG LCT. 
          WE HAVEN'T HAD, WE'VE LOST SOME OTHER TREES THAT I DON'T WANNA REPORT TO YOU BECAUSE MY HEART BROKE ON MONDAY MORNING. 
          WE LOST QUITE A NUMBER OF TREES IN OUR PARKS, SOME OLDER ONES, UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, STORMS AND THINGS HAPPEN. 
          SO, NO, UNFORTUNATELY I DON'T HAVE ANY UPDATE ON THAT, BUT I CAN FOLLOW UP. 
          THAT'D BE GREAT. 
          'CAUSE I NOTICED SOME TREES ARE IN THE CREEK AND I THOUGHT, OH, THEY PROBABLY WOULD CUT THOSE DOWN SO THEY DON'T FALL OVER AND CAUSE A BACKUP. 
          RIGHT. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          BUT NO, THOSE ARE STILL STANDING. 
          IT'S THE ONES THAT ARE CLOSEST TO THE TRAIL THAT PROVIDE THE NICE SHADE FOR WALKING. 
          THAT SEEMED TO BE GONE NOW. 
          AND I WAS KIND OF WONDERING AFTER HEARING ABOUT RELIEF, WHETHER THEY WERE REMOVING THEM BECAUSE THEY WANNA MAKE WAY FOR NEW OAKS TO GO IN, IN PLACE OF WHERE THEY WERE NOT, NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. 
          NO. 
          AND RELIEF DOESN'T HAVE ANY PLANS TO REMOVE TREES, AT LEAST NOTHING THAT THEY'VE SHARED WITH ME. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO, AT THIS POINT I HAVEN'T HEARD OF ANY PLANS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANOTHER QUESTION IS, I'VE NOTICED THAT PENRY PENRY PARK, UM, SOME NEW, IT LOOKS LIKE PALMS BABY, REALLY, BABIES WERE PLANTED, MAYBE THREE OF THEM. 
          IS THAT, ARE THOSE IN FACT PALM TREES? UH, SO THE, YES, THERE WERE TREES THAT WERE PLANTED, AND I BELIEVE IT'S THE CANARY PALMS THAT WERE ORIGINAL TO THE PARK. 
          SO THE ORIGINAL LAYOUT OF THAT PARK HISTORICALLY HAD THESE TREES. 
          SO AS WE LOST THAT LAST CANARY PALM THAT WAS REMOVED BY THE UTILITY COMPANY, THE STAFF WENT AHEAD TO REPLACE WHAT WERE THE ORIGINAL TREES IN THE PARK? THOSE, THOSE ARE, UM, THEY'RE LITTLE MINIATURE PALMS. THEY'RE THE SAME. 
          THERE'S ONE OLDER ONE THERE, IF I MAY. 
          UM, AND THE TREE THAT, THAT PG E CUT DOWN WAS ACTUALLY A, UM, WASHINGTONIA, WHICH IS, THERE'S ONLY ONE PALM TREE, TWO PALM TREES THAT ARE NATIVE TO CALIFORNIA. 
          AND THERE WERE ONLY TWO IN PETALUMA THAT I KNOW OF. 
          ONE'S IN FRONT OF DENNY'S AND ONE WAS IN PENRY PARK AND NOW IT'S GONE. 
          PG E CUT IT DOWN. 
          UM, I WAS ACTUALLY THINKING I MIGHT LIKE TO DONATE ONE TO PLANT IN THAT PARK AND . 
          OH, NICE. 
          UM, COULD YOU, I MEAN, WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME. 
          UM, DID YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON SOME OF THE TREES THAT CAME DOWN ON MONDAY? SURE. 
          UM, DO YOU HAVE THE PARK FOR IT? WE LOST, ABSOLUTELY. 
          WE LOST, UM, OVER AT MCNAIR 
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PARK CLOSE TO THE PLAYGROUND, WE LOST AN OAK TREE THERE UP AT OAK HILL PARK. 
          WE LOST AT LEAST TWO OAK TREES THERE, BUT ONE WAS ALREADY IN, IN DK AND WAS LIKELY GONNA HAVE TO BE REMOVED. 
          THERE WAS KIND OF, UM, SOME MAJOR ISSUES WITH THAT TREE. 
          WE LOST A FEW TREES IN WISEMAN PARK. 
          THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT, THE MAJOR ONES THAT WERE OLDER THAT WE HAD REMOVED. 
          WE ALSO LOST A LOT OF LIMBS AND STUFF, BUT IN, IN PARKS, THOSE WERE THE MAJOR LOSSES. 
          UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THE WINDS WERE REALLY HIGH, SO I'M ACTUALLY SURPRISED THAT WE DIDN'T LOSE MORE THAN WE DID. 
          I THINK THE ONE IN MCNAIR WAS PARTICULARLY HEARTBREAKING FOR ME BECAUSE THOSE REALLY NICE SHADE CANOPY CLOSE TO THE PLAYGROUND. 
          SO WE'LL SEE HOW THAT AFFECTS THAT KIND OF PLAY AREA FOR THE KIDS THIS SUMMER OR IN THE SPRING, AS YOU KNOW, WE SEE THE SUN COME BACK OUT. 
          BUT YOU KNOW, THIS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHY WE PLANT THOUGH, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, TREES HAVE LIFECYCLE NUMBER ONE AND TWO STORMS AND THINGS WILL HAPPEN, RIGHT? SO WE CAN'T ACCOUNT THAT IF WE DON'T PLANT TREES. 
          IT TAKES TIME FOR THEM TO GROW. 
          SO YOU DON'T PLANT THEM NOW, YOU WON'T HAVE ANY TREES RIGHT AS WE LOSE THEM. 
          SO WE'LL CONTINUE ON WITH OUR TREE PLANTING PLAN, UM, AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET TO 10,000. 
          THANKS. 
          AND I HAVE ONE COMMENT, UM, THEN I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT OAK AND PRINCE PARK IS STILL STANDING , IT'S STILL ALIVE. 
          SHE'S DEAR TO MY HEART. 
          UM, AND, AND THAT BRINGS IT, IT MAKES ME, UM, I'LL COMMENT ON SOIL HEALTH AND OUR EXISTING TREE CANOPY. 
          UM, I MEAN IT WAS RECOMMENDED, WHAT, TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO NOW THAT WE GET COMPOST DOWN IN A GOOD SIX INCH LAYER OF MULCH UNDERNEATH THAT, THAT THAT OAK TREE TO, UM, TO LOOSEN THE COMPACTION OF THE SOIL. 
          'CAUSE THAT'S LIKELY AROUND IT. 
          AND UM, AND I KNOW I BROUGHT IT UP AND, AND, AND I HAVEN'T REALLY FOLLOWED THROUGH WITH IT, BUT, UM, THAT STILL HAS YET TO HAPPEN. 
          AND SO I THINK, UM, AS, AS MAYBE THIS COMMITTEE, WE CAN LEND OUR VOICE, BUT ALSO JUST TO IMPROVING THE SOIL HEALTH AROUND THE TREES THAT WE DO HAVE, ESPECIALLY OUR HERITAGE TREES, THAT HERITAGE JOKE. 
          AND AT PRINCE PARK, IF NOBODY, IF PEOPLE ON THIS COMMITTEE HAVEN'T SEEN IT, UM, IT'S MAGNIFICENT. 
          I THINK IT'S THE BEST TREE IN THIS VALLEY. 
          SO BESIDES THE ONE BEHIND THE LIBRARY, WHICH IS ALSO IN TROUBLE. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          GO AHEAD DARREN. 
          I'M JUST GONNA GIVE A QUICK UPDATE FOR PLANNING COMMISSION 'CAUSE ROGER'S NOT HERE. 
          UH, AND SOME FOLKS MAY KNOW THE HARMONY FARM SUPPLY. 
          SO THAT PLOT OF LAND 5,400 REDWOOD HIGHWAY AT OUR LAST MEETING HAD APPLIED FOR ANNEXATION TO CITY OF PETALUMA. 
          UH, RIGHT NOW IT'S MAINLY THE HARMONY FARM SUPPLY AND NURSERY. 
          AND THEN THERE'S LIKE A SMALL RETROGRADE COFFEE ON THAT SITE AS WELL. 
          UH, THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH FILL AND FLOOD CAPACITY OF THAT SITE. 
          THERE'S ABOUT 11,000 CUBIC YARDS OF FILL. 
          UH, WE HAVE A NO FILL POLICY AS A CITY. 
          AND THIS HAD ACTUALLY COME UP WHEN IT WAS PREVIOUSLY TRIED TO BE ANNEXED. 
          AND THE CITY COUNCIL SAYS, UNLESS YOU REMOVE ALL THAT, WE'RE NOT GONNA RUN UTILITIES AND ADD IT TO, TO THE CITY. 
          UM, THAT WAS A MUCH DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION. 
          RIGHT NOW THEY'RE JUST PROPOSING, HEY, BRING US INTO THE CITY SO WE GET WATER BASICALLY. 
          UM, THE SEWER ALREADY RUNS TO PEN GROVE FROM PETALUMA, SO A SEWER HOOKUP ISN'T THAT HARD. 
          THE WATER UTILITY WOULD ALLOW THEM TO USE THAT SPACE MORE COMPLETELY. 
          UH, AND SO WITH THE CAVEAT THAT WE WANT CITY COUNCIL TO ADDRESS THIS FILL ISSUE THAT THEY HAD PREVIOUSLY KIND OF DISALLOWED, WE THOUGHT EVERYTHING ELSE ABOUT IT, UH, LOOKED GOOD TO MOVE FORWARD. 
          SO WE MAY BE ADDING ANOTHER PARCEL TO, UH, CITY OF PETALUMA. 
          THANK YOU, KAREN. 
          I WAS GONNA FINISH, I'M SORRY, ON THE LYNCH CREEK. 
          UM, HOWARD, MAYBE YOU CAN COMMENT ON THIS TOO, PLEASE. 
          UM, THE TREES THAT ARE THERE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE. 
          BIRCH, UM, AND SOME EUCALYPTUS AND OTHERS IN ONE SEGMENT, CLOSEST TO, UM, FOR ABOUT A HUNDRED YARDS. 
          AS YOU APPROACH MCDOWELL FROM THE WEST, THE TREES ARE COMPLETELY ENGULFED IN IVY, SUCH THAT THE IVY VINES GROWING UP ARE SEVERAL INCHES IN DIAMETER. 
          AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT'S REALLY A HEALTH RISK TO TREES. 
          AND I WAS WONDERING IF WE HAVE ANY, UM, MAINTENANCE, UH, CARE FOR THE TREES AND WHETHER IVY IS AS BIG OF A PROBLEM AS I UNDERSTAND IT TO BE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I I DON'T HAVE AN AN, I MEAN, I DO, I HAVE AN ANSWER ABOUT THE IVY, WHICH YES, IT IS A PROBLEM. 
          UM, BUT IT ALL COMES DOWN TO BUDGET AND MAINTENANCE AND, AND KEEPING IT OUTTA THERE. 
          UM, AND THAT I CAN'T COMMENT ON. 
          SO YEAH, I THINK JUST ON THE SAME, UH, TOPIC OF, UM, HEALTH OF TREES AND SOIL HEALTH AND, UH, ALONG THE LINES OF ALSO MCNAIR PARK LOSING, UH, TWO TREES IN THE LAST TWO YEARS. 
          UH, REALLY BEAUTIFUL OAKS. 
          I I, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THOSE TREES HAVE 
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A FAIR AMOUNT OF LAWN AREA RIGHT ALONG ONE SIDE, CONCRETE ON THE OTHER, MAYBE PLAYGROUND ON THE THIRD SIDE. 
          SO, UM, THEY'RE CHALLENGED. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT ANSWER IS, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, GETTING MORE AND MORE EXPERTISE ON HOW TO PRESERVE THOSE LARGE, MATURE TREES WITH THOSE CHALLENGES WOULD BE GREAT. 
          UM, YEAH, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE PARKS TOO. 
          UH, THE, THE, THE, THE FIELDS SERVE THEIR PURPOSE AS WELL, SO FINDING THE RIGHT BALANCE WOULD BE GREAT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, INTEGRATED PEST MANAGEMENT, ORGANIC TURF MANAGEMENT COMING UP BEFORE THE PARKS COMMISSION ON FEBRUARY 21ST, SIX 30 HERE. 
          UM, SO, AND I THINK IT'S THE FINAL DRAFT OF THE IPMP, WHICH CITY COUNCIL MADE A TOP 10 PRIORITY A YEAR AGO, TWO YEARS AGO, AND NOW IT'S BEING COMPLETED. 
          AND THE COMMUNITY WAS HEAVILY INVOLVED IN THAT. 
          SO IF YOU WANNA COMMENT ON WHETHER THE GOLF COURSE GETS A BLANKET EXEMPTION FOR PUTTING DOWN WHATEVER THEY WANT, WHENEVER THEY WANT, IF YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY AND MAKING SURE THAT THE IPMP UH, COORDINATOR OR SOMEBODY ON STAFF AND IS NOT FARMED OUT TO SOMEBODY, AND THAT THAT PERSON ACTUALLY HAS TO BECOME A PART OF THE COUNTY. 
          UH, AT LEAST THE MARIN COUNTY HAS A, A TASK FORCE WHERE THERE'S ACCOUNTABILITY HELD FOR I PMPS ON A COUNTY LEVEL. 
          PLEASE SHOW UP AT THAT MEETING AND SAY, SO THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND WITH THAT I'LL MOVE TO ADJOURN. 
          THANK YOU EVERYBODY. 
          RECORDING. 
          STOPPED.
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