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[CALL TO ORDER]
I WILL CALL THIS PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TO ORDER.IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE EVERYBODY WE'RE EXPECTING FOR TONIGHT.
WE CLEARLY HAVE A PACKED HOUSE TONIGHT.
SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
I'D LIKE TO ASK ARIEL, IF YOU COULD CALL THE ROLL.
AND THEN DO WE HAVE ANYONE HERE FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT? FIGURED NOT.
UH, ELLE, DO WE HAVE ANY, ANY GENERAL COMMENTS THAT WERE SENT TO US? WE RECEIVED NO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING.
WE HAVE NO PRESENTATIONS TODAY.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM FEBRUARY 27TH.UH, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR CHANGES? ALRIGHT, IF WE CAN DO A ROLL, ROLL CALL.
COUNCIL MEMBER CATER THOMPSON? YES.
AND THEN WE HAVE ONE MORE SET OF ITEMS, WHICH WAS THE MARCH 12TH MINUTES, AND I REALIZE I SHOULD HAVE BUNDLED THOSE TOGETHER.
UH, DO WE HAVE ANY EDITS OR COMMENTS? ALRIGHT, UH, IF WE CAN GET A VOTE FOR THAT AS WELL.
COUNCIL MEMBER CATER THOMPSON? YES.
[PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION]
MOVE INTO PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS OF CONSIDERATION.THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE LONG WAIT.
UM, WE'LL GO STRAIGHT TO MEETING ITEM THREE, WHICH IS A PUBLIC HEARING, AND WE'RE TO HEAR A RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION WITH REGARDS TO, UH, SPAR APPROVAL FOR THE PROPOSED GAS COSTON RESIDENCE PROJECT, WHICH IS LOCATED AT FIVE 60 HAYES LANE.
I'VE BEEN TRYING TO AVOID READING THE LONG PARAGRAPH I NORMALLY DO THAT I'VE BEEN TOLD ANNOY EVERYBODY WATCHING ON YOUTUBE.
SO WITH THAT, I WILL ASK STAFF TO PRESENT, UH, CHAIR, IF YOU WOULD, WE NEED EX PARTE DISCLOSURE ON THIS IRON F DO WE HAVE ANY EX PARTE, UM, DISCLOSURES? I TALKED TO THE RESIDENTS.
WELL, WITH THAT, WE DON'T SEEM TO HAVE ANY OTHER DISCLOSURES.
CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? UH, MY NAME'S LARISSA HIN.
I AM AN ASSOCIATE PLANNER WITH M GROUP SERVING PETALUMA.
UM, LET ME JUST SHARE MY SCREEN.
SO THE ITEM BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS THE GAK KOSIN RESIDENCE AT FIVE 60 HAYES LANE.
UM, THIS IS FOR SITE PLAN ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW, UM, FOR A MAJOR SPAR IN THE HILLSIDE, THE WEST HILLS, UM, PLANNING SUB AREA.
JUST GONNA BRIEFLY GO OVER THE, UM, PRESENTATION I'M GIVING TONIGHT.
WE'LL FIRST GO OVER THE BACKGROUND OF THE PROJECT, UH, PROJECT DESCRIPTION STANDARDS FOR REVIEW, UM, REQUIRED FINDINGS.
WE'LL BRIEFLY TOUCH ON AND, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
SO JUST SOME BACKGROUND ON THE PROPERTY ITSELF.
UM, IT'S OUTLINED IN RED IN THE IMAGE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN.
YOU CAN SEE FROM THE OVERHEAD VIEW ON THE RIGHT.
ALSO, IT'S GOT AREAS OF HEAVY, UH, TREE COVERAGE AND GRASSLANDS.
THIS IMAGE IS A STREET VIEW FROM HAYES, UM, WHICH IS THE A A CUL-DE-SAC TURNAROUND.
UM, THERE IS SOME EXISTING FENCING.
UM, THE NEW CURB CUT AND DRIVE WILL BE COMING OFF OF THE CENTER OF THIS, UM, IMAGE.
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THIS IMAGE HERE IS A BIRD'S EYE VIEW OF THE PROPERTY, UM, LOOKING, UM, LOOKING SOUTH TOWARDS THE PROPERTY AND THE HOUSE NESTLED IN THE HILLSIDE THERE.THIS NEXT IMAGE, UM, IS JUST FOR, UM, A FUTURE CONDITION OF APPROVAL.
UM, WE DON'T TYPICALLY SHOW THIS KIND OF IMAGE, UM, BUT DURING, UM, THE AB 52 TRIBAL CONSULTATION, THERE'S, UM, SOME AREAS OF CONCERN.
SO WE WANTED TO PROVIDE THIS TO YOU AND ALSO INCLUDING THE CONDITION OF APPROVAL WAS REQUESTED BY THE TRIBES.
UM, TO, UM, FOR THE BUILDING PERMIT SUBMITTAL, WE'LL BE, UM, FINE TUNING THIS DOCUMENT AND, AND MOVING FORWARD WITH, WITH, UH, NON-DEVELOPMENT AREA FOR THE PROPERTY.
THE GENERAL PLAN DESIGNATION IS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE.
IT IS ALSO IN THE WEST HILLS SUB AREA, WHICH IS, UM, WHY THIS PROJECT IS BEFORE YOU FOR SPAR.
UM, ANY, ANY PROPERTY WITHIN THE WEST HILLS SUB AREA REQUIRES MAJOR SPAR AND IS SUBJECT TO THE HILLSIDE CHAPTER OF, UM, THE IZO, THE IMPLEMENTING ZONING ORDINANCE.
THE PROPERTY IS ZONED RESIDENTIAL TWO, IT'S ALSO SURROUNDED, UM, BY PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ZONING AND RESIDENTIAL TWO ZONING, UM, AS WELL AS THE GENERAL PLAN DESIGNATION.
THERE'S OPEN SPACE TO THE REAR, WHICH IS PART OF THE, UM, THE, LET'S SEE, TO THE RIGHT PITY, THE VICTORIA PITY TO THE SOUTH.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE SITE PLAN HERE.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S QUITE A LARGE PARCEL.
UM, THE PROP, THE HOUSE ITSELF WILL BE SET BACK, UM, APPROXIMATELY 63 FEET FROM THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE, 98 FEET FROM THE REAR PROPERTY LINE, AND 47 FEET FROM THE EAST SIDE PROPERTY LINE AND OVER 400 FEET FROM THE WEST SIDE PROPERTY LINE.
THE CARPORT IS ALSO SITUATED, UM, BETWEEN THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE AND THE HOUSE, BUT IT'S STILL SET BACK 31 FEET FROM THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE AND MEETS THE, THE SETBACK REQUIREMENT FOR THAT FRONT LINE.
UM, THE PROJECT WAS CITED CLOSE TO THIS, THE HAYES LANE, UM, ENTRANCE THERE.
IT WILL MINIMIZE GRADING AND TREE REMOVAL ON THE PROPERTY.
UM, I DID WANNA CORRECT ONE THING FROM THE STAFF REPORT ABOUT THE DRIVEWAY SLOPE.
UM, THE, THE SLOPE THERE FOR THE DRIVEWAY ONCE IT'S CONSTRUCTED WILL BE ABOUT 2% EXISTING SLOPE IS AROUND 21%.
UM, THIS NEXT SLIDE IS COVERING THE, UM, COLORS AND MATERIALS.
UM, THERE IS, UM, KIND OF A FARMHOUSE FEEL TO THIS, UH, PROJECT.
UM, IT KIND OF NESTLES IN THE, IN THE SIT IN THE FIELD THERE AND HAS THAT FARMHOUSE FEEL.
UM, THE ROOFING MATERIAL IS A CORRUGATED METAL, UM, WITH GRAY, UH, STUCCO FINISHES AND WHITE BOARD AND BATTEN SIDING.
THERE'S ALSO HOG WIRE FENCING FOR THE STAIRS, DECK RAILINGS AND ALUMINUM WINDOWS AND ALUMINUM AND WINDOW TRIM AND BLACK.
THERE'S ALSO SOME, UM, YOU'LL SEE, SEE ON OTHER SLIDES IN THE FUTURE.
THERE'S A RAILING ON THE PATIO THAT'S ALSO WOOD, I BELIEVE.
UM, THE COLORS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE FARMHOUSE STYLE AND ARE N NEUTRAL IN NATURE.
AND, AND, UM, CONFORM WITH THE HILLSIDE DEVELOPMENT, UM, SECTION OF THE IZO.
THE SITE WILL ALSO BE ACCESSED BY A, UH, PERMEABLE DRIVEWAY, A TURF STONE DRIVEWAY.
THIS, UM, NEXT SLIDE IS THE FRONT, THE SOUTH ELEVATION, WHICH IS THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY FACING HAZE.
UM, THIS FROM THIS ELEVATION, THE PROPERTY, THE HOUSE LOOKS TO BE ONE STORY, UM, AND IS PRETTY, UM, SET DOWN BELOW THE STREET FRONTAGE.
UM, IT DOESN'T CALL UE ATTENTION, ATTENTION TO ITSELF WHEN VIEWED FROM THE PUBLIC VANTAGE POINT, VANTAGE POINT, WHICH WOULD BE HAYES.
UM, THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN AND STRUCTURE REDUCES OVERALL BULK OF THE STRUCTURE, AS WELL
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AS THE GRADING ON THE PATIO IS, UM, OPEN IN FEEL.THE HOUSE WILL ALSO BE, UH, SCREENED FROM HAZE WITH THE EXISTING OAK TREES AND VEGETATION THERE ALONG THE STREET.
THE NORTH ELEVATION IS WHAT WE WOULD CALL THE REAR OF THE HOUSE.
UM, IT FACES, UM, THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY, UH, AND THE OTHER VACANT PARCELS, WHICH ARE S ALSO OWNED BY, UM, THE APPLICANTS.
UM, THIS ELEVATION HAS A SIMILAR ROOF LINE TO THE PREVIOUS ONE, UM, AND THE SIMILAR, UH, CIRCULAR WINDOW AT THE TOP OF THE, THE PEAK OF THE ROOF.
UM, IT HAS, UH, VARIED ROOF SLOPES AS WELL, AND GRADING AND RAILINGS ALONG THE DECK, WHICH YOU CAN SEE IT'S A COMBINATION OF THE METAL AND THE WOOD RAILINGS.
UM, FROM THE SIDE EAST ELEVATION, WE START TO SEE THE CARPORT AND THE SLOPE OF THAT HILL THERE, UM, AND HOW THE HOUSE WAS NESTLED INTO THE SLOPE AND, UM, KIND OF BUILT INTO IT.
UM, THE, IN THE HILLSIDE CHAPTER OF THE IZO BUILDING HEIGHT IS MEASURED FROM THE NATURAL GRADE TO THE PEAK OF THE ROOF.
UM, AND IT, IT CAN BE A MAXIMUM OF 30 FEET.
SO THIS HOUSE MEETS THAT REQUIREMENT.
IT'S THAT 30 FEET HIGH, UM, FROM THE GRADE TO THE PEAK OF THE ROOF.
UM, THIS ELEVATION, YOU ALSO SEE THE PORCH FROM ANOTHER VIEW.
UM, THE CARPORT, THE ENTRY, THE STAIRCASE, THE STAIRWAY IS ALONG THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE.
UM, AND THE SOLAR PANELS, WHICH ARE SHOWN AS NUMBER SIX ON THIS IMAGE, YOU CAN SEE HERE.
SO ALONG THIS EDGE IS ALL, THIS IS WHERE THE SOLAR PANELS WILL, WILL GO, THE WEST ELEVATION.
UM, LOOKING FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HOUSE, YOU SEE THE, ANOTHER VIEW OF THE CARPORT, HOW THE, UM, CARPORT IS NESTLED INTO THAT HILLSIDE.
AGAIN, THERE ARE, UM, RETAINING WALLS, UM, TO ALLOW THAT PARKING SPACE THERE.
UM, THE GRADING HERE IS ON THE SITE IN GENERAL, IS MINIMIZED TO THE BUILDING ENVELOPE AND THE BUILDING DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL GRADING BESIDES WHERE THE HOUSE AND THE CARPORT DRIVEWAY WILL BE GOING.
UM, WE'LL BRIEFLY TOUCH ON THE, ON THE, UH, FLOOR PLAN HERE.
THIS IS THE LOWER LEVEL OF THE HOUSE.
UM, THE TOTAL OF SQUARE FOOTAGE IS 298 SQUARE FEET.
UM, THERE'S, UH, ABOUT 491 SQUARE FEET OF PATIO SPACE.
AND THEN THE CARPORT, WHICH IS 208 80 SQUARE FEET.
UM, THIS LOWER LEVEL CONTAINS, UM, A COUPLE, UH, BEDROOMS, BATHROOMS, AND A FAMILY ROOM AS WELL AS A PATIO OUT TO THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY.
AND THEN THE, THE MAIN LEVEL HERE IS, UH, YOU SEE THE CARPORT, DRIVEWAY STAIRWAYS DOWN TO THE FRONT ENTRY, UM, AS WELL AS ANOTHER BEDROOM AND BATHROOM, AND THE MAIN LIVING AREA OF THE KITCHEN AND LIVING ROOM, AS WELL AS THE LARGE, UM, OPEN DECK.
UM, THIS SLIDE, UM, CONTAINS THE VEGETATION MANAGEMENT PLAN, UM, AND SOME LIMITED LANDSCAPING.
UM, THE PROPERTY IS, IS PRETTY NATURAL IN NATURE, AND WE, THEY AREN'T PROPOSING MUCH LANDSCAPING HERE.
UM, IT'S BASICALLY, UH, LIMITED TO THE FEW TREES, THE FEW FRUIT TREES THEY PLAN TO PLANT IN THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, BUT THEY DO HAVE A VEGETATION MANAGEMENT PLAN, UM, FOR AROUND THIS, THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE.
UM, THERE'S ALSO APOS PROPOSAL FOR THE, UH, GRAYWATER IRRIGATION SYSTEM.
AND, UM, NO FENCING IS CURRENTLY PROPOSED WITH THIS PROJECT.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO START WITH THE STANDARDS FOR REVIEW.
UM, AND AGAIN, NOTE THAT THE SPAR REQUIREMENT COMES FROM THE HILLSIDE PROTECTION CHAPTER OF THE IZO, UM, BECAUSE THIS PROPERTY'S IN THE WEST HILLS SUB AREA.
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STANDARDS FOR REVIEW ARE BOTH THE SPAR REQUIREMENTS AND THE HILLSIDE PROTECTION DESIGN GUIDELINES.UM, WHICH STAFF WAS ABLE TO MAKE ALL THE FINDINGS FOR, I WON'T GO INTO GREAT DETAIL ON ALL THE FINDINGS.
THEY'RE, UM, DETAILED IN THE STAFF REPORT, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, UM, ABOUT THOSE, UM, AFTER THE PRESENTATION.
UM, I DO, HOWEVER, WANT TO BRIEFLY TOUCH ON THE TREE PRESERVATION SECTION BECAUSE, UM, TREES ARE IMPORTANT IN PETALUMA, AND WE'VE HAD SOME COMMENTS ABOUT IT TO CLARIFY THAT THERE ARE NO TREES PROPOSED FOR REMOVAL WITH THIS PROJECT.
AND ALL THE TREES THAT ARE NEARBY THE BUILDING ENVELOPE ARE, UM, TO BE PROTECTED.
AND WE, THERE ARE IS AN ARBORIST REPORT AND, AND, UH, PRESERVATION REQUIREMENTS IN INVOLVED WITH THAT.
I DID ALSO WANT TO, UM, MOVE ON TO THE VISIBILITY REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY.
UM, THIS ONE, UM, THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTED AN EXEMPTION, UM, FROM THE CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL AND RECEIVED ONE.
I DID WANNA BRIEFLY TOUCH ON SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT HAPPENED, UM, LEADING UP TO THAT.
UM, AND LOOKING AT SOME OF THE CONSTRAINTS ON THE PROPERTY THAT WOULD'VE, UM, REALLY PUT A, A BURDEN ON THE, ON THE APPLICANTS TO FULLY COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS.
SO ON THE LEFT, UM, IMAGE, THIS IS ONE OF THE, UM, SOLUTIONS THEY HAD THOUGHT OF TO FULLY MEET THE REQUIREMENTS, WHICH WOULD'VE REQUIRED A 300 FOOT PATH, A HUNDRED FOOT RETAINING WALL REMOVAL OF FOUR TO FIVE TREES, PROTECTED TREES, UH, EXTENSIVE GRADING, UH, NEW LANDSCAPING, AND QUITE A BIT OF COST.
UM, AND THEN ON THE RIGHT, THERE WAS ANOTHER OPTION, UM, KIND OF PAIRED DOWN, BUT STILL, UM, REQUIRING, UH, MOVING OF THE CARPORT DOWN THE HILL, ADDITIONAL GRADING, MORE PATHS, RETAINING WALLS, AND, UM, REPLANT, REPLANTING AND, AND LANDSCAPING.
SO THE SOLUTION, UM, THAT WAS AGREED UPON WAS A MORE ACCOMMODATING AND ADAPTABLE DESIGN SOLUTION.
UM, THIS INCLUDED, UM, GENTLE STAIRWAYS LEADING FROM THE CARPORT TO THE FRONT DOOR.
UM, SO THE LOWER RISE AND, AND TREAD MEASUREMENT AS WELL AS A MIDPOINT LANDING ON THE STAIRS.
SO IN, UM, THERE'S A SERIES OF STAIRS, A A SMALL LANDING AREA, AND THEN ADDITIONAL STAIRS, UM, TO KIND OF BREAK UP THAT, UM, LONG STEP DOWN AS WELL AS IT BEING STRAIGHT.
UM, SO FUTURE, UM, IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PROPERTY COULD INCLUDE, UM, A, A CHAIRLIFT, UM, INSTEAD OF A MEANDERING PATH, IT WAS STRAIGHT DOWN TO ALLOW FOR SUCH A, A, AN ADDITION AT A LATER TIME IF NEEDED.
UM, THE PUBLIC OUTREACH AND COMMENTS, UM, THEY, THE APPLICANTS, UM, HELD A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING.
UM, THEY HAD ABOUT FOUR PEOPLE I THINK, ATTEND.
UM, AND THEN, UM, THE PROJECT WAS ALSO PUBLIC.
IT WAS NOTICED, UM, ACCORDING TO THE IZO, UM, DISTRIBUTED, PUBLISHED, AND POSTED ON SITE, UH, STAFF RECEIVED THREE PUBLIC COMMENTS DURING THAT PERIOD, UM, GENERALLY RELATED TO, UM, FENCING, UH, LIGHTING AND ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY.
UM, THE PROJECT WAS FOUND TO BE CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT FROM, UM, FROM CQA UNDER SECTION 15 0 15, 3 0 3, UM, WHICH INCLUDES NEW CONSTRUCTION AND APPLIES TO CONSTRUCTION OF SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS WHEN THEY'RE LOCATED IN A RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT.
SO, UM, THE RECOMMENDATION FROM PLANNING STAFF IS TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION, IMPROVING A SPAR FOR G OR COSIN RESIDENCE.
AND THAT'S THE END OF MY PRESENTATION.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, AND THE APPLICANTS ARE ALSO HERE AND HAVE A, A SHORT PRESENTATION.
DO WE HAVE ANY IMMEDIATE QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE TO THE NEXT PART OF THIS? OKAY.
GIMME ONE MINUTE TO PULL UP THEIR SLIDES.
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GOOD EVENING PLANNING COMMISSION.THANK YOU FOR HAVING US AND CONSIDERING OUR PROPOSAL FOR THIS HOME.
UM, WE HAVE A 6-YEAR-OLD WHO GOES TO MCNAIR ELEMENTARY AND A 4-YEAR-OLD WHO GOES TO PETALUMA VILLAGE PRESCHOOL.
I AM A CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST AND DJ IS A PHD CIVIL ENGINEER.
AND WE MET, UM, IN STUDENT HOUSING ON A COMMUNE IN BERKELEY.
AND, UM, ONE OF OUR FIRST DATES, UH, DJ ASKED ME IF I WOULD MOVE A HOUSE WITH HIM, AND I SAID, COME AGAIN.
AND HE SAID, OH, AND DON'T WORRY, IT'S IN PIECES.
UM, AND SO ACTUALLY ONE OF OUR FIRST STATES, WE MOVED THIS STRUCTURE PIECE BY PIECE INTO A TRUCK AND DJ'S GONNA TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT EXACTLY WHAT THE STRUCTURE IS AND WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR HAVING US.
SO, UH, I, I THOUGHT IT'D BE HELPFUL MAYBE IF I, UH, WALK YOU THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF A HISTORY OF THE PROJECT.
UM, SO THIS, THE CENTERPIECE OF THE HOUSE, RIGHT? WHEN YOU NOTICE THE PROFILE, THE, THE STEEP ROOFED SECTION CENTERPIECE OF THE HOUSE IS THIS SALVAGED TIMBER FRAME, UH, THAT MY DAD BUILT.
UH, THAT'S HIM AT THE VERY TOP, UH, WHEN THEY FIRST BUILT IT.
UH, AND IT WAS ON THE FARM I GREW UP IN, IN OHIO.
IT WAS KIND OF A TINY BARN, UH, THAT WE USED THERE IN OHIO.
THAT'S ME ON THE FAR RIGHT IN THE YELLOW JACKET.
UH, IT WAS ABOUT NINE YEARS OLD.
AND WE SAVED THIS STRUCTURE FROM A DEVELOPER WHO, UH, WAS INTENDING TO TURN THE FARM INTO 270 TRACTED HOUSES OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
UH, AND SO WE TOOK IT DOWN PIECE BY PIECE AND THEN BEGGED, BORROWED AND PLED WITH FRIENDS AND FAMILY TO HELP US STORE IT AND, UH, AND MOVE IT WHEN NEEDED.
UM, AND SO THAT'S KIND OF THE ORIGIN OF THIS PARTICULAR, UH, STRUCTURE OF THE HOUSE.
UH, IN REBUILDING IT, UH, IT NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE BIT BIGGER THAT THE STRUCTURE AS IS IS ONLY 360 SQUARE FEET OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
SO WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE PUT SHED ADDITIONS ON EACH SIDE, PUT A BASEMENT UNDERNEATH IT IN OUR CURRENT DESIGN, UH, BUT ALSO KIND OF MAKING IT MORE MODERN, GIVING IT ALL THE SUSTAINABILITY FEATURES OF A HOUSE THAT I THINK IS, IS VERY WORTHY OF BEING BUILT.
SO WE MENTIONED, UH, GRAY WATER REUSE AND, AND SOLAR PANELS.
IT'S AN ALL ELECTRIC HOUSE, RIGHT, WHERE WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A GAS CONNECTION.
UM, METAL ROOFING AND CONCRETE SIDING ARE VERY FIRE RESISTANT.
WE CHOSE LIGHT COLORS PARTIALLY TO REDUCE, UH, THE AIR CONDITIONING DEMAND, UH, TO MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENT, RIGHT? SUPER EFFICIENT HEAT PUMP WITH A THERMAL BATTERY AND A-H-R-V-A HEAT RECOVERY VENTILATION, UH, FOR EFFICIENT SPACE CONDITIONING AND LOAD SHEDDING OFF OF, YOU KNOW, TO IMPROVE THE RELIABILITY OF THE GRID.
UM, SO I'VE TALKED A LITTLE BIT, MAYBE WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE ABOUT THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE TO TAKE THESE TIMBERS AND, UH, INCORPORATE THEM INTO THE NEW HOUSEHOLD AS FINN IS HELPING US DO ON THE LEFT.
AND I THOUGHT I WOULD MAYBE HELP ALSO EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THE STRUCTURE WORKS, HOW IT WORKS FOR OUR FAMILY, AND HOW IT WORKS ON THE SITE AS ISLA IS HELPING US DO ON THE RIGHT NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
AS WE'VE GONE OVER THESE, UH, A BIT, AND ISSA DID A FANTASTIC JOB KIND OF HIGHLIGHTING, UH, SOME OF THE DIFFERENT DESIGN FEATURES, A COUPLE THAT I KIND OF WANTED TO PULL OUT ALSO IN TERMS OF THE AGRICULTURAL CONNECTION, RIGHT? THE BOARD AND BATTEN SIDING, THE GOOSENECK LIGHTING, THE CORRUGATED METAL ROOFING.
UH, IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE STRUCTURE BEING A TINY BARN, BUT IT'S ALSO ABOUT THE HISTORY OF PETALUMA, RIGHT? THIS PARTICULAR SITE IS KIND OF ON THE BOUNDARY BETWEEN THE MORE URBAN, MORE DEVELOPED AREAS AND GETTING OUT INTO THE COUNTRYSIDE.
SO WE THOUGHT IT PARTICULARLY APPROPRIATE TO INCORPORATE THESE DESIGN FEATURES.
WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, JUST A MINUTE.
ALSO, WHEN WE, UH, WHEN WE APPROACHED THIS PROJECT, UH, WE CAME AT IT FROM AN ANGLE OF, UM, PRIMARILY THREE DESIGN OBJECTIVES, RIGHT? ASIDE FROM, YOU KNOW, BUILDING A HOUSE THAT'LL WORK FOR A FAMILY, RIGHT? WE WANTED TO PROTECT AS MANY OF THE EXISTING TREES AS WE COULD, AND WE FOUND A DESIGN THAT MEANS WE DON'T NEED TO TAKE ANY TREES OUT.
AND WE'RE, WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
WE LOVE ALL THE OAKS AND THE BAY LAURELS.
UM, WE WANTED TO MINIMIZE OUR DISRUPTION TO THE HILLSIDE.
WE DON'T WANNA HAVE TO, AN EXAMPLE COULD BE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE WERE TO SAY MOVE THE HOUSE FURTHER INTO THE, UM, PROPERTY, BUT WE WANTED TO KEEP THE DRIVEWAY SHORT, UM, DISTURB AS LITTLE OF
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THE HILLSIDE AS POSSIBLE.SO THAT'S WHY IT'S, YOU KNOW, TUCKED UP INTO THE CORNER.
UH, AND THE THIRD THING WAS REALLY PROTECTING VIEWS, RIGHT? SO AS LARISSA POINTED OUT, WHEN YOU'RE ON HAYES LANE, IT LOOKS LIKE A ONE STORY BUILDING.
AND A BIG PART OF THAT WAS TO PROTECT THE VIEWS FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, AND ALSO TO PROTECT THE VIEWS OF THE LAND, UH, FROM THE PEOPLE ON THE OTHER SIDE HERE ON THE RIGHT.
AND SO, I THINK KIND OF HOW THE HOUSE WORKS ON THE LAND AND WITH THE LAND IS AN IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION HERE, RIGHT? I THINK IN THE LETTERS, UH, AND, AND IN MY INTERACTIONS, UH, WITH PEOPLE ON THE SITE, PEOPLE REALLY VALUE THE SPACE.
AND, UM, AND WE DO TOO, RIGHT? WHEN WE BOUGHT THE LAND, UH, ALMOST FOUR YEARS AGO, IT HAD LARGELY BEEN NEGLECTED FOR DECADES.
UH, AND WE ARE BIG BELIEVERS THAT THAT NEGLECT AND CONSERVATION ARE VERY DIFFERENT THINGS, UH, THAT WHEN, UH, PEOPLE TALK ABOUT WE SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO BUILD THERE, THEY DON'T NECESSARILY UNDERSTAND MAYBE THE WORK THAT WE ARE PUTTING INTO IT.
UH, AND SO I WANNA TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT JUST IN TERMS OF KIND OF REALLY KIND OF ROOTING IT IN A HOW DO WE BELIEVE IN, UH, WHAT THE LAND SHOULD BE OR COULD BE.
SO I HAVE, YOU KNOW, SOME, SOME LISTED OUT KIND OF, UH, ITEMS OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING ALREADY.
AND I THINK THAT THE IMPORTANT PART HERE THOUGH IS IN RIGHT, THE, THE CONSERVATION IS ABOUT FOR US RECREATING WHAT THIS AREA LIKELY WAS A THOUSAND YEARS AGO, RIGHT? AND AT THAT TIME, THERE WERE HERDS OF ELK THAT WOULD COME THROUGH AND BROWSE ON THE TREES, RIGHT? CREATING SEPARATION BETWEEN THE CANOPY OF THE TREE AND THE GRASSES, RIGHT? AND, UH, AND THINNING OUT THE TREES.
THEY WEREN'T NEARLY AS DENSELY.
UM, UM, YOU KNOW, FORESTED, RIGHT? THERE WERE ALSO PERIODIC GRASS FIRES THAT WOULD FURTHER REDUCE THE BRUSH.
UM, THE BLACKBERRIES THE, UM, THE TOON, UH, THE COYOTE BUSH.
UH, AND SO WITH THOSE TWO EFFECTS REMOVED, THE AREA HAS BECOME QUITE OVERGROWN.
UH, THERE IS A LOT OF BRUSH, THERE'S A LOT OF LOW LIMBS, THERE'S A LOT OF RISK OF A GRASS FIRE THAT IS GENERALLY SLOW MOVING AND LOW HEAT QUICKLY BECOMING A BRUSH OR A CROWN FIRE THAT'S MUCH HOTTER AND MUCH FASTER MOVING.
AND SO WE'VE REALLY BEEN WORKING A LOT, BUT THERE IS MORE TO DO TO TRY TO AGAIN, RECREATE THAT WHAT'S CALLED AN OAK SAVANNA.
UM, SO PREDOMINANTLY NATIVE GRASSES, UM, SEPARATION BETWEEN THE GRASS LATER AND THE CROWN LAYER, BUT REALLY IT'S MORE OF AN ACTIVE MANAGEMENT OF THE LAND, BUT WITH A VISION OF RECREATING WHAT ONCE WAS.
UM, AND OF COURSE WE HAVE HELP, UH, ISLAS PLANTING A A MANZANITA FINN JUST PLANTED A COAST LIVE OAK BONNIE IS SUPERVISING.
UM, IS THAT, THAT JUST, OKAY, NEXT SLIDE.
UM, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR GIVING US THIS OPPORTUNITY.
AND UM, DJ DOES HAVE AN INSTAGRAM ACCOUNT THAT YOU CAN FOLLOW IF YOU LIKE, UH, CUTE PICTURES OF KIDS OR FOLLOW THE PROGRESS ON THE LAND.
AND WE'RE GONNA OPEN THE FLOOR FOR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.
DO FOLKS HAVE QUESTIONS EITHER FOR STAFF OR THE APPLICANT? DARREN, I THINK A LOT OF WHAT I HAVE IS QUESTIONS AND, UH, SOME OF THIS IS ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS.
SO I'M GOING TO START OUT WITH, UH, JUST TWO PIECES ABOUT THE GEOTECHNICAL ENGINEER AND AN ARBORIST ON SITE.
I'M ASSUMING IT'S GONNA BE REQUIRED ON THIS PROJECT, OR, OR MAYBE THE APPLICANT JUST PLANS ON IT TO RETAIN A GEOTECHNICAL ENGINEER.
I NOTICED THAT IN THE REPORT THAT THEY CALLED OUT RECOMMENDING ONE BE ON SITE BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME UNCERTAINTY EXACTLY WHAT THEY'D UNCOVER IN THE SOIL.
SO, UM, YEAH, SO FOR THE, UM, ARBORIST REPORT, IT DOES SIG UH, RECOMMEND THE, THE PROTECTION AROUND THE TREES, UH, DURING CONSTRUCTION AND LIKELY DURING THOSE AREA, THOSE TIMES WHEN, UM, MAJOR DISTURBANCES AROUND THAT AREA ARE, ARE BEING, UM, WORKED ON AS WELL AS THE GEOTECHNICAL REPORT.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT, BUT, UH, THEY WOULD BE FOLLOWING THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE REPORT, UH, FOR THE CONSTRUCTION.
YEAH, I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY IF IT CALLS OUT, UM, FOR A FULL-TIME PRESENT ENGINEER OR IF
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IT'S MORE OF A LIKE, KIND OF INSPECTION AFTER EXCAVATION.BUT OUR INTENTION IS TO FOLLOW THE RECOMMENDATION IN THE REPORT.
AND THAT WOULD BE THE BETTER QUESTION, IS BOTH THE GEOTECHNICAL AND THE ARBORIST REPORT, JUST ASSUMING THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING THE RECOMMENDATIONS LAID OUT THERE.
AND, UH, THIS MIGHT BE FOR STAFF.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE READ ABOUT THE, UH, TRAIL ACCESS FOR THE PUBLIC.
THAT IS A, THE INFORMAL TRAIL THAT I ALSO USE.
SO THANK YOU GUYS FOR
UH, DO WE HAVE ANY BRIEF HISTORY ON THAT, UM, FROM STAFF ON THE HISTORY OF THAT TRAIL AND THEN MAYBE FROM THE APPLICANT WHAT THE PLANS ARE, UH, FOR PUBLIC ACCESS OR, OR NOT? UM, SO I, I DO KNOW THAT THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN USED INFORMALLY FOR TRAIL USE.
UM, THERE'S DEFINITELY BEEN, UM, UNWANTED ACTIVITY ON THE PARCELS AS WELL.
I'M SURE LOTS OF PEOPLE USE IT AS THEY SHOULD.
UM, BUT GRAFFITI, UM, THERE'S ALSO BEEN, I UNDERSTAND LIKE SOME OFF ROAD VEHICLES, UH, LITTER OFF LEASH DOGS.
UM, SO YES, IT HAS IN THE PAST BEEN USED THAT WAY.
IT IS PRIVATE PROPERTY, BOTH THIS ONE AND THE, UH, THE NEIGHBORING PARCEL AS WELL ARE OWNED BY THE APPLICANT'S, UM, TRAILS, UH, SPAN BOTH OF THOSE PARCELS.
UM, AND I WOULD JUST ADD COMMISSIONER CUSON, UH, YOU'VE HEARD WHEN WE DID OUR PLANNING TUTORIAL, UH, WHEN WAS THAT A COUPLE MONTHS AGO? AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE NOLAN DOLAN CASES.
NOLAN STOOD FOR, THERE NEEDS TO BE A NEXUS, AND THAT CASE WENT ALL THE WAY TO THE SUPREME COURT AND ESTABLISHED THE NEXUS, AND IT WAS AN EASEMENT DOWN IN VENTURA BEACH, AND THAT WAS FOUND TO BE A TAKING, UH, THE DOLAN CASE WAS FOUND TO ALSO BE TAKING THAT AN EASEMENT UP IN OREGON AROUND LIKE A RIVER TRAIL, UH, JUST BECAUSE THAT WAS NOT IN PROPORTION TO THE PERMIT GRANTED.
SO I THINK THOSE ARE PRETTY GOOD CASE PRECEDENT HERE, JUST ABOUT CONCERN FOR CONDITIONING THAT TRAIL, AND HAPPY TO ELABORATE FURTHER IF NEEDED.
BUT, UM, I KNOW ANDREW WILL APPRECIATE THIS.
UH, I THINK IN THE DOLAN DECISION, THEY ACTUALLY SAID THAT ALLOWING THAT EASEMENT FOR THE PUBLIC WOULD PREVENT THE, UH, ABILITY TO GET RID OF, UH, PEOPLE, UH, THE RIGHT TO EXCLUDE, WHICH IS ONE OF THE MORE IMPORTANT BUNDLES OF STICKS FOR PROPERTY OWNERS.
SO MAYBE THE BETTER QUESTION THEN IS FOR THE APPLICANT, WHAT ARE YOUR GUYS' PLANS AROUND THE TRAIL? UM, I BELIEVE I SAW IN THE NOTES ABOUT NOT HAVING FENCING, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, JUST TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT.
YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT, UH, WE'RE NOT PROPOSING FENCING, RIGHT? AS PART OF THIS PROJECT.
UH, THERE ARE A COUPLE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO FIGURE OUT, RIGHT? ONE IS THAT THE HOUSE IS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO A TRAIL.
UH, AND SO I THINK KIND OF HAVING PEOPLE WALK DIRECTLY PAST OUR KIDS' BEDROOM IS NOT GONNA BE COMFORTABLE FOR ANYBODY.
UH, AND SO THERE'S KIND OF THIS QUESTION OF COMFORT.
I WOULD SAY PRIVACY, UH, AS WELL AS A COM AS AS WELL AS A CONSIDERATION FOR SAFETY, RIGHT? UM, I MENTIONED THERE ARE QUITE A FEW DIRT BIKES AND EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE AN A TV OR A LIFTED PICKUP TRUCK THAT DO GO THROUGH.
UM, AND THAT'S NOT THAT KIND OF THING.
WE'RE GONNA NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO KEEP EVERYBODY SAFE.
UM, THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT, I DON'T, WE'RE NOT PROPOSING TO PUT UP GIANT CONCRETE BARRIERS TO KEEP THE TRUCKS OUT, UH, BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIGURE OUT SOME WAY TO CO-EXIST IN A WAY.
UH, BUT ALSO MAINTAINING SOME PRIVACY AND SOME, UH, CONSIDERATION FOR THE USE OF THE SPACE.
THERE HAS, YOU KNOW, AS LARISSA MENTIONED, THERE HAS BEEN CONSIDERABLE THEFT, VANDALISM, LITTERING, UM, THAT NOBODY WANTS IN THEIR YARD.
WELL, I APPRECIATE YOUR THOUGHTFULNESS IN TRYING TO STRIKE THAT BALANCE, UM, THAT, THAT IS TOUGH, BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR MINDSET AROUND THAT.
AND, UH, MY NEXT QUESTION IS REALLY IN REGARDS TO DURING CONSTRUCTION, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, IN REFERENCING, AGAIN, THE GEOTECHNICAL REPORT, HEAVY RIPPING AND JACKHAMMERING, I'M SURE THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT'LL BE CONTROLLED WITH OUR SOUND ORDINANCES.
DO WE ANTICIPATE ANYTHING ELSE REQUIRED? ARE WE, YOU KNOW, HAVING CERTAIN HOURS OF CONSTRUCTION MANDATED, THAT KIND OF THING? UM, ALL THOSE THINGS ARE ADDRESSED IN THE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS OF THE IZO, AND WE HAVEN'T, UM, ADDED ANYTHING TO THOSE STANDARDS, UH, FOR THE PROJECT.
AND YOU KNOW, I NOTICED THE RETAINING WALL ON THE CARPORT.
I COULDN'T TELL FROM THE STREET VIEW HOW VISIBLE THAT WOULD BE FROM HAYES LANE.
I KNOW THE HOUSE PEAKS OUT, UM, THE RETAINING WALL IN THE CARPORT OR THAT CARPORT AREA.
HOW VISIBLE IS THAT FROM HAYES LANE? UM, YOU'RE WELCOME
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TO JOIN, BUT IT IS PRETTY COVERED BY TREES.I THINK THE TREE COVERAGE RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE CARPORT IS PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL.
UM, SO YOU WON'T SEE THAT CARPORT VERY MUCH.
YEAH, I MEAN, THE RETAINING WALL ITSELF WILL STICK UP SEVERAL INCHES FROM THE HILLSIDE.
BUT IT'S, YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM THE UPHILL SIDE, SO IT'S NOT A, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S A, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THERE'S MAYBE A LITTLE GRAVEL DITCH OF LIKE A FRENCH DRAIN, UH, ON THE UPHILL SIDE OF THE RETAINING WALL, AND THEN THERE WOULD BE A COUPLE INCHES STANDING UP ABOVE, UH, THE GRADE.
AND FOR VISIBILITY, WE TALKED ABOUT, I READ ABOUT THE EXEMPTION IN THERE.
UH, IS IT STRICTLY THE ACCESS PORTION THAT THEY'RE EXEMPT FROM? WERE THERE ANY CHANGES IN TERMS OF THE INTERIOR DESIGN CONSIDERATIONS FOR VISIBILITY? I DON'T BELIEVE THERE, THERE'S NO CHANGES TO THE INTERIOR OF THE STRUCTURE.
IT WAS MORE THE ACCESS, UM, THE PRIMARY ACCESS TO THE HOUSE, UM, THROUGH THAT, THAT STAIRWAY FROM THE CARPORT TO THE FRONT DOOR.
CAN I RESPOND TO THAT? YEAH, YEAH.
UH, SO THE, THE INTERIOR OF THE HOUSE IS ACTUALLY, UH, ABOVE AND BEYOND, UH, ANY REQUIREMENTS FOR VISITABILITY.
WE HAVE A FULL BEDROOM AND BATHROOM ON THAT FIRST, ON THAT TOP LAYER, RIGHT? THE MAIN, YOU KNOW, YOU GO IN THE MAIN ENTRANCE AND YOU'RE ON THE TOP LEVEL.
UH, AND SO WE HAVE ACCESSIBLE BEDROOM, ACCESSIBLE BATHROOM, LIVING SPACE, KITCHEN, UH, WHICH IT, MOST OF THAT IS NOT REQUIRED, UM, ON THE IDEA THAT ONE, BOTH OF OUR MOMS ARE GETTING OLDER AND WE WANT THEM TO COME VISIT, BUT ALSO AS WE AGE, RIGHT? MAYBE WE MOVE UP FROM THE DOWNSTAIRS INTO THE UPSTAIRS IF WE NEED TO.
AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION MIGHT BE FOR YOU AS WELL.
CAN YOU JUST TALK ABOUT THAT FIRST FLOOR THAT EMERGES FROM THE HILLSIDE THERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S STUCCO RATHER THAN THE BOARD AND BATTEN, CAN YOU JUST TALK ABOUT THAT DECISION STRICTLY BUDGETARY OR, NO, THE INTENTION WAS TO BASICALLY TRY TO GROUND THE HOUSE A BIT MORE, RIGHT? THAT THE BOARD AND BATTEN IS REALLY A FINISH FOR, UM, IN, IN A BARN SETTING, RIGHT? FOR THE TOP STRUCTURE, RIGHT? AND THE, AND THE STUCCO IS GENERALLY MORE OF A, IT'S KIND OF THE, THE ROOTING RIGHT OF THE STRUCTURE INTO THE HILLSIDE, RIGHT? THINK OF IT AS, YOU KNOW, HISTORICALLY IT MIGHT'VE BEEN STACKED STONE, UH, OR, YOU KNOW, OR THEN POURED CONCRETE.
UH, SO THE STUCCO IS REALLY KIND OF MORE OF A GROUNDING EFFECT INTO THE HILL, CONNECTING THOSE BOARD AND BATTEN STRUCTURE ON TOP INTO THE HILLSIDE.
AND I'M ALSO CURIOUS, WHILE I HAVE YOU, THE CIRCULAR WINDOW, WAS THAT AN ORIGINAL FEATURE OF THE BARN? NO, IT WAS NOT.
THAT WAS A DESIGN FLARE YOU, YOU'VE ADDED IN.
UH, JUST A COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS.
UH, DARREN COVERED A FEW, UH, THAT WERE ON MY MIND.
UM, THE DRAWING SET, UM, PAGE SIX IN THE PDF OPPORTUNITIES CONSTRAINTS, UM, THERE'S, UH, IT SHOWS SERVICE WATER IN A STORM DRAIN.
IS THAT IMPLYING THAT THERE IS AN EXISTING STORM DRAIN THERE OR NAT SOME TYPE OF NATURAL DRAINAGE, OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE ADDED? UH, I DON'T, IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN PULL IT UP JUST SO I MEAN, WE, WE MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL LOOKING AT THE SAME THING.
THERE IS AN EXISTING CULVERT AND STORM DRAIN, UM, ON THE NORTH PARCEL, RIGHT? YEAH, YEAH.
UH, YEAH, THE, THE, THE DRAIN INLET IS ON THE NORTH PARCEL AND IT RUNS, UM, THROUGH THE KIND OF EAST, EAST, UH, EAST BOUNDARY AND THEN UNDER THE PARKING LOT FOR, UH, THE HILLCREST POST ACUTE THAT IS AN EXISTING DRAIN.
AND THAT, THAT'S MANMADE? YES.
THE FRUIT TREES THAT ARE ON THE NORTH END OF THE, THE DEVELOPED PROPERTY, UM, THOSE ARE THE ONLY ADDITION THE TREE ADDITIONS THAT, THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING TO MAKE? OTHER THAN WHAT I'VE PLANTED ALREADY, YES.
AND NOT SUBTRACTING ANY EXISTING TREES? THAT'S CORRECT.
UM, I THINK THAT'S IT FOR ME NOW.
THANKS COUNCIL MEMBER THOMPSON.
MOST OF MY QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED, BUT, UM, GOING BACK TO THE ARBORIST, YOU KNOW, MY BIG ISSUE IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE GRADING, JUST THAT AN ARBORIST IS THERE FOR THAT, THOSE TREES FOR THAT TIMEFRAME.
AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE THEY'RE SOMEWHAT CLOSE.
SO THAT'S, UM, MY COMMENT, ROGER.
UM, I'M, I'M LOOKING AT THE MAP.
IT'S THE, UH, VEGETATION MANAGEMENT PLAN, AND I'M
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ALSO ON THE FOLLOWING NEXT PAGE IS AN AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH.CAN WE BRING THOSE UP? YES, I CAN SHARE THOSE.
I THINK, UH, LARISSA GO TO THE OPPORTUNITIES AND CONSTRAINTS MAP.
IT LOOKS LIKE YOU, UM, THE, THERE'S A ROW OF TREES THAT RUN ALONG THE, UM, PROPERTY LINE TO THE, UM, UM, I'M NOT SURE WHICH IS NORTH OR SOUTH, BUT, UM, STANDING, STANDING ON HAYES, UH, LOOKING AT THE LOT, THE RIGHT SIDE IS A ROW OF TREES, AND IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE A UTILITY CORRIDOR GOING DOWN THERE WITH UTILITIES THAT I GUESS SURFACE THE BOTTOM.
YEAH, THERE'S AN EASEMENT THROUGH THE SOUTH LOT TO BRING UTILITIES TO THE NORTH LOT, SHOULD WE EVER CHOOSE TO DEVELOP THE NORTH LOT.
BUT THEN I LOOK AT THE ME A VEGETATION MANAGEMENT PLAN, AND IT, IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE THOSE TREES GO DIAGONALLY ACROSS THE LOT.
THEY FOLLOW A, THEY FOLLOW THIS.
UH, IS THAT THE, THAT THE, THAT'S THE SAME PROPERTY LINE, MAYBE IT'S JUST A GRAPHIC? YEAH, THAT IS THE SAME PROPERTY LINE.
SO THE UTILITY CORRIDOR IS GOING DOWN BETWEEN THOSE TREES AND YOUR HOUSE, RIGHT? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
UM, THE OTHER QUESTION IS, UM, THE GRADING AT THE BOTTOM, UH, OF THE, YOUR LOWER FLOOR AT THE LOWER DECK ON THE REAR OF THE HOUSE, YOU SHOW LIKE A TWO TO ONE SLOPE OUT THERE.
YOU, THERE'S A PAD WITH A TWO TO ONE SLOPE, YOU HAVE A GRADING PLAN.
UM, YOU'RE AN ENGINEER, SO MY WORRY IS PUTTING A TWO TO ONE SLOPE ON TOP OF A 20% SLOPE WITHOUT KEY KEYING THAT SLOPE IN.
AND, YOU KNOW, WHY DO YOU NEED TO DO THAT? IS IT, WOULDN'T IT BE BETTER JUST TO COME BACK DOWN TO NATURAL GRADE? IT'S BASICALLY A TRANSITION FROM, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE GO OUT THE, THERE'S, UH, FRENCH DOORS ON THE LOWER LEVEL, UH, OUT ONTO THAT SMALL PATIO.
WHEN WE GO OUT ONTO THAT LAND, IT'S BASICALLY A TRANSITION TO NATURAL GRADE.
SO HOW ARE YOU KEYING THAT SLOPE IN? UM, I MEAN, AS FAR AS THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION TECHNIQUE, I IMAGINE WE'LL HAVE TO STEP IT IN ON FOREFOOT, YOU KNOW, SECTIONS, BUT IT'S A FILL, IT'S A FILL SLOPE THAT NEEDS TO BE KEYED IN AND YES.
I'M, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT IN TERMS OF GEOLOGIC, UM, UM, IDEA.
UM, SO YOU MIGHT WANNA CONSIDER IF, IF THERE'S A DIFFERENT WAY OF DOING THAT, UM, AND IT'S STILL ACHIEVE WHAT YOU WANT, BUT MAYBE NOT SO MUCH GRADING ON A, UM, NOT SO MUCH FILL ON AN EXISTING SLOPE THAT'S ALREADY STEEP.
I MEAN, YOU'RE ADDING A, A 50% SLOPE ON TOP OF A 20% SLOPE.
YEAH, WE HAD CONSIDERED, UH, A RETAINING WALL THERE.
WE DIDN'T LIKE, UH, ONE, THE IDEA OF KIDS FALLING OFF OF THE RETAINING WALL, UH, OR THE IDEA OF THE VIEW OF A RETAINING WALL FROM LOWER DOWN ON THE HILL.
BUT A NICE STONE WALL WOULD LOOK PRETTY NICE THERE.
I THINK IT DOESN'T ELIMINATE THE FIRST CONCERN, THOUGH.
THE OTHER QUESTION IS, UM, THE PERAL DRIVE, THE PERAL BULL PAVEMENT DRIVE? YES.
WHAT, CAN YOU DESCRIBE THAT A LITTLE BIT? UH, I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S SEVERAL PRODUCTS OUT.
UM, I MEAN, SO MY BACKGROUND, I'M A CIVIL ENGINEER.
I WORKED FOR CALTRAN FOR A WHILE.
I'M NOT SUGGESTING A, YOU KNOW, PERMEABLE ASPHALT, UH, BUT MORE ALONG THE CONCRETE PAVERS, UH, LINE THAT ARE DESIGNED TO HAVE GAPS IN THEM, RIGHT? SO INSTEAD OF CREATING SHEET FLOW, THERE'S SOME INFILTRATION.
UM, MY BACKGROUND'S A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT AND I'VE DONE LOTS OF PROJECTS WITH FIRE TRAILS THAT HAVE SIMILAR SURFACES.
AND IT, IT'S A GOOD IDEA, BUT IT IS A VERY DIFFICULT THING TO MAINTAIN, UH, TO, TO DEAL WITH THE, THE WINTER, UH, SUMMER CHANGE OF IRRIGATION AND SUN.
AND SO YOU MAY REALLY WANNA THINK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE IT CAN BE A HUGE MESS.
AND THEN WHAT DO YOU DO? YOU'VE GOT CONCRETE PAVERS ON, ON SOLID GRAVEL, YOU KNOW, IT IS HARD TO MOVE, HARD TO CHANGE IT.
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RESEARCH THAT AND MAKE SURE YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH IT.UH, AND THE OTHER, ONLY OTHER THING OF THE ENTRY STAIRS, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S A, UH, I, I LOVE EVERYTHING ABOUT THE HOUSE, THE ENTRY STAIRS, JUST FEEL A LITTLE ABRUPT.
SIX AND 12, YOU KNOW, TREAD, TREAD TO A RISER IS NOT A GENEROUS STAIR THAT'S PRETTY TIGHT.
UM, THAT'S AN INTERIOR STAIR, SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO THINK IF THERE'S A WAY OF, OF ZIGZAGGING OR, OR MAYBE LENGTHENING OUT YOUR, THE, THE, UM, THE TREADS AND MAYBE ADD MORE STAIRS TO GET TO THE SAME LOCATION.
YEAH, WE, WE WENT WITH A STRAIGHT SHOT SO THAT IT WOULD BE MORE FEASIBLE TO ADD A, A, A CHAIR IF WE NEEDED TO IN THE FUTURE.
WE COULD ELIMINATE THE LANDING TO, YOU KNOW, LENGTHEN THE TREAD LENGTH.
UH, BUT WE, WE CAME TO THIS CONCLUSION AS PART OF THE VISIBILITY.
CONVERSATIONS WHEN, WHEN YOU GET TO BE OLD AS I AM, YOU HAVE TO CARRY GROCERIES BACK BOTH WAYS.
UM, I HAVE TO SAY THE, THE PROJECT NARRATIVE, THE ARBUS REPORT AND THE GEOTECHNICAL REPORT COVERED A LOT OF MY PRELIMINARY CONCERNS OUTTA THE GATE.
AND THEN MOST OF THE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN ASKED AROUND TRAIL AND THE FEW LINGERING QUESTIONS I HAD ON THE GEOTECHNICAL REPORT HAVE BEEN COVERED BY NOW.
UM, THE ONE QUESTION I DID, WELL ACTUALLY I HAD TWO THINGS I DID WANNA RAISE ONLY BECAUSE WE DID GET A HANDFUL OF PUBLIC COMMENTS.
SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE STAFF THE OPPORTUNITY JUST TO ANSWER A FEW CONCERNS.
UH, I THINK THE, BOTH THE ARBOR REPORT AND THE I ZS SECTION ON HOW WE REGULATE TREE COVERAGE AND COVER THIS PRETTY WELL.
BUT IF STAFF COULD COVER THE CONCERN WITH REGARDS TO TREE MATURE TREE PROXIMITY TO THE HOUSE STRUCTURE, UM, THE ARBORIST REPORT, UH, REQUIRES THAT THE, THE TREES HAVE FENCING AT THE DRIP LINE.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANOTHER WIDER AREA AROUND THE TREES THAT MIGHT BE AMENABLE TO THE APPLICANTS.
UH, BUT THAT IS KIND OF, THAT'S OUR STANDARD, UH, FOR, FOR PROTECTION OF THE TREES.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S MORE DISCUSSION THAT WANTS, THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN ABOUT A WIDER RANGE AROUND THOSE PROTECTED OAK TREES, UH, PARTICULARLY THE ONES THAT ARE IDENTIFIED IN THE AIRBUS REPORT NEAR THE DEVELOPMENT, UM, THEN WE COULD DEFINITELY HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.
BUT PER EXISTING GUIDELINES, REGULATIONS, IT SEEMED PRETTY OPEN AND CLOSED, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE.
YEAH, AND, AND, AND ARBORIST REPORT, UM, THE ARBORIST DETERMINED THAT THAT WAS THE APPROPRIATE RADIUS AROUND THE TREES TO PROTECT.
AND THEN, UM, I KNOW THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR THERE TO BE A BIOLOGICAL SURVEY FOR ACTIVE BIRD NESTS IN SOME OF THE TREES.
UH, THAT IS NOT REGULARLY USUALLY SPEAKING, THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE COVERED OR IN ANY WAY, UH, REQUESTED IN A SPAR REVIEW.
JUST WANTED TO GIVE OPPORTUNITY TO CLARIFY THAT GIVEN THE COMMENTS WE RECEIVED.
UH, IT'S NOT, AND ALSO NONE OF THE TREES ARE BEING PROPOSED TO BE REMOVED.
UM, I THINK THAT WOULD MORE COME INTO PLAY IF LARGE AMOUNTS OF TREES ARE BEING REMOVED FROM THE PROPERTY.
UM, LOOKING FOR NEST IN THE TREES THAT ARE BEING REMOVED COULD BE, UM, SOMETHING FOR LARGER PRODUCTS THAT WOULD HAPPEN.
BUT IN THIS CASE, THERE AREN'T ANY.
UH, AND WITH THAT, I HONESTLY DID NOT HAVE MANY QUESTIONS COMING INTO THIS JUST BECAUSE OF THE DOCUMENTATION WE'D ALREADY BEEN PROVIDED.
WERE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM FOLKS BEFORE WE MOVE INTO PUBLIC COMMENT? WELL, THIS IS, YEAH, YOU HAVE A GREAT DESIGN.
UM, DO WE HAVE FOLKS HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM OR ARE THEY JUST HERE IN SUPPORT? JUST SUPPORT.
UNLESS THE, I MEAN, I'M ALL FOR IT.
ALRIGHT, JUST TO CLARIFY, YOU'RE NOT OKAY,
SO I'M JUST GONNA NOTE FOR FOLKS WHO ARE WATCHING, WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY HERE FOR, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM, SO WE CAN MOVE STRAIGHT TO THE NEXT POINT.
YES, ARIEL, WE DID RECEIVE, UH, FOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS PRIOR
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TO THE MEETING, ALL OF WHICH HAVE BEEN POSTED ONLINE AND THEY'RE IN THE BACK, UH, FOR VIEWING, UH, TWO OF THOSE COMMENTS.THE MOST RECENT, RECENT ONES HAVE BEEN PROVIDED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
WITH THAT, WE COME BACK TO, UM, DISCUSSION AND THEN POSSIBLE VOTE.
SHOULD MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION WANT TO VOTE TO RECOMMEND THIS BAR? UH, I'M JUST GOING TO, WE DON'T HAVE FULL COMMISSION HERE TONIGHT, SO I'M JUST GONNA LOOK TO SEE IF ANYBODY HAS A HAND THEY WANT TO RAISE FOR COMMENT.
UM, I, I AGREE WITH WHAT OTHER COMMISSIONERS SAID.
UM, LOT OF GREAT EXEMPLARY ATTRIBUTES.
THE, THE ADAPTIVE REUSE, LOVE THE IDEA, ESPECIALLY KEEPING IT IN THE FAMILY.
IT'S A REALLY, REALLY COOL IDEA.
THE GRAY WATER PERAL DRIVEWAY, UM, ALL ELECTRIC AND SOLAR.
JUST WANTED TO RECOGNIZE, UH, YOUR USE OF THAT AS EXEMPLARY FOR OTHER PROJECTS.
SO REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS, UH, PAYING SO MUCH ATTENTION TO THAT AND INCORPORATING THAT INTO YOUR DESIGN.
LISTEN TO ROGER TALK ABOUT THE, THE WALKWAY.
I COULDN'T HELP BUT THINK, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S A POINT ON THE CHICAGO RIVERFRONT, UM, PARKWAY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S CALLED, I'M NOT THAT FAMILIAR WITH IT, BUT IT ACTS AS A STAIRWAY, NOT IMPORTANT.
IT ACTS AS A, AS A STAIRWAY, BUT ALSO A RAMP BY SLOPING DOWN BACK AND FORTH.
UM, AND IT, IT, IN DOING SO, IT PROVIDES BOTH FOR ACCESSIBILITY.
YOU CAN ACTUALLY GET A WHEELCHAIR BACK AND FORTH AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO NAVIGATE THE STAIRWAY, BUT ALLOWS YOU TO TAKE ON A STEEPER GRADE, UM, IN A MORE KIND OF GENTLE WAY.
UM, SO I SAW ONE TIME I THOUGHT, WOW, WHAT A GREAT IDEA.
UM, NOT MY JOB TO LIVE VICARIOUSLY THROUGH YOUR PROJECT, BUT UH, BUT IF YOU EVER DO IT, I'D LIKE TO COME BY AND CHECK IT OUT.
AND SO IF I EVER GET THE OPPORTUNITY MYSELF, I ALWAYS WANNA PUT THAT IN.
BUT JUST A THOUGHT IN TERMS OF DESIGN, I THINK IT IS ACTUALLY A REALLY PRACTICAL DESIGN.
UH, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY OUT THERE, BUT THOUGHT I'D MENTIONED IT TO YOU, BUT OTHERWISE, NO OTHER COMMENTS.
I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY COMMENTS EITHER.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST THING I LOOKED AT WAS THE STEPS AND YOU KNOW, HOW PEOPLE ARE GONNA GET WHEN YOU'RE OLDER UP AND DOWN THE STAIRS AND I FEEL AS THOUGH YOU'VE ACCOMMODATED WITH A LIFT.
UM, BUT I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN SEEING WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 'CAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO, UM, HAVE OPTIONS.
BUT OTHERWISE I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT.
AND WHEN I WENT ON THE SITE YESTERDAY, YOU COULD REALLY SEE WHERE THE TREES WERE AND WHERE THE HOUSE WAS GONNA BE AND HOW THEY WERE REALLY SEPARATED OUT EXCEPT FOR ONE CLUSTER AND JUST THE PROPERTY.
UM, THE YEARS YOU'VE HAD IT, YOU'VE REALLY CLEANED IT UP AND THE TREES LOOK JUST BEAUTIFUL.
I MEAN, JUST HEALTHY AND IT'S JUST A BEAUTIFUL OAK SANNA THAT IS NOT DISTURBED.
AND HOPEFULLY YOU'LL HAVE MORE OF THOSE TREES ON THE PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, AS TIME GOES, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU EVER GO DOWN TO ANI ROAD, BUT SOME FRIENDS OF OURS, YOU KNOW, PLANTED OAK TREES LIKE 25, 30 YEARS AGO AND IT'S JUST THIS BEAUTIFUL OAK SANNA.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T TAKE THAT LONG, YOU KNOW, TO GROW TREES, BUT I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT AND LOOKING FORWARD TO WATCHING IT FROM THE BEGINNING TO THE END.
UH, YEAH, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE THOUGHTFULNESS OF THE NARRATIVE AND REALLY KIND OF ALL ASPECTS OF THIS PROJECT.
UM, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO INTERACTION WITH THE ENVIRONMENT, YOU KNOW, REGARDING THE TREES ON SITE, OUR CITY IS CURRENTLY REVISING OUR TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCES, YOU KNOW, IN THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT IS THERE A ZONE OUTSIDE THE DRIP LINE, SOME MUNICIPALITIES AND SOMETHING WE'RE EXPLORING IS SOMETHING CALLED THE CRITICAL ROOT ZONE.
I THINK SAN JOSE IS ONE THAT USES THAT, UM, THAT RULE OF THUMB.
I MEAN IT'S BASICALLY JUST A LITTLE AREA OUTSIDE OF THE STANDARD DRIP LINE, SO SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.
I, I DON'T THINK WE CAN REQUIRE IT BECAUSE OUR CODE IS WHERE IT IS, BUT I KNOW WITH KIND OF THE BENT YOU GUYS HAVE, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING YOU'RE IMMUTABLE TO SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.
UH, ALSO IN REREADING, JUST GOING THROUGH THE GEOTECH REPORT NOW, YOU KNOW, I WOULD, IT DOES RECOMMEND, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WITH THE CONSULTANTS, THEY WANT TO BE THERE ON SITE FOR THE WHOLE PROJECT, BUT IT DOES RECOMMEND HAVING SOMEONE ON SITE DURING A MAJORITY OF THE SOIL WORK.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S JUST VERY FREQUENT CHECK-INS WITH THE CONTRACTOR AND, UH, THE CONSTRUCTION TEAM.
BUT, UH, YEAH, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S BEING MANAGED BECAUSE WE ARE IN A STEEP SLOPE AND THEY, AND THEY DO CALL OUT SOME ISSUES THERE THAT THAT COULD COME UP.
UH, BUT OTHERWISE I THINK THE PALLET IS APPROPRIATE.
I THINK THE MATERIALS ARE VERY APPROPRIATE.
UH, I THINK THE DESIGN IS FITTING, YOU KNOW, WE DROVE AROUND SOME OF THE FEEDER STREETS AROUND THAT AREA,
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KIND OF DOWN SLOPE AND UP SLOPE TRYING TO FIND A VIEW THAT WOULD BE OBJECTIONABLE.BUT I THINK YOU GUYS ARE GONNA BE SCREENED OUT PRETTY WELL.
UM, SO I DON'T THINK THERE'S KIND OF ANY OF THOSE CONSIDERATIONS ON THE SITE.
AND I ALSO APPRECIATE YOUR THOUGHTFULNESS AROUND THE TRAIL USE.
I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE A REALLY DELICATE BALANCE.
I KNOW IF IT WERE ME, I WOULD REALLY STRUGGLE WITH LETTING FOLKS ON MY PROPERTY, ESPECIALLY AS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE RAISING A FAMILY.
BUT, UM, YEAH, I APPRECIATE YOUR OPENNESS TO THAT AND LOOK FORWARD TO THE COMMUNITY CONVERSATION THAT EVOLVES AROUND THAT.
BUT OTHERWISE, UH, A GREAT PROJECT AND A GREAT PRESENTATION.
UM, I LOVE THE HISTORY OF THE PROJECT.
I'M GLAD YOU FOUND A HOME FOR THE LUMBER.
UM, I LIKE THE CHARACTER STYLE.
I THINK IT'S VERY APPROPRIATE FOR WHERE IT'S AT.
SO I THINK IT'S A, A NICE CRAFTSMANSHIP LIKE JOBS.
UM, I AGREE THAT THERE SHOULD BE AN ARBORIST OR A SOMEONE ON SITE LOOKING AT THE ROOTS 'CAUSE 'CAUSE ON A SLOPE, ROOTS DON'T NECESSARILY FOLLOW THE DRIP LINES.
THEY, THEY'RE, SO I THINK WATCHING WHERE THEY ARE, MAKING SURE YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS IMPORTANT.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT YOU TOOK THE TIME TO CONSIDER YOUR NEIGHBORS AND HOW YOU DESIGN THIS.
IT'S VERY CLEAR FROM THE NARRATIVE AND THE SITE PLAN THAT YOU TOOK THE TIME TO NOT ONLY MAKE IT AFFORDABLE, BUT NOT MAKE IT SOMETHING THAT JUST EMERGES FROM THE SITE FOR EVERYONE TO SEE.
UM, AS SOMEBODY WHO USED TO TRESPASS ON THAT SITE QUITE OFTEN AS A KID, I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT YOU'VE NOT FENCED IT UP.
BUT, UH, AS I HAD TO TELL SOMEONE THE OTHER DAY WHO WAS ASKING A QUESTION ABOUT, THIS IS PRIVATE PROPERTY, SO CHANGES HAPPEN, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL ALL HAVE TO ADJUST TO.
UM, I THOUGHT THE STORY WITH REGARDS TO HOW YOU GOT, 'CAUSE THAT WAS ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING, THE STAFF REPORT WHEN THEY HAD THIS PART THAT WAS BEING BROUGHT INTO THE SITE, BEING ABLE TO SEE EXACTLY WHAT YOU MEANT AND SEEING HOW THAT'LL BE INCORPORATED INTO THE PROJECT.
I I DON'T THINK WE'VE HAD AN EXAMPLE OF THIS KIND OF REUSE ON A SITE PROJECT, ESPECIALLY SOMETHING SO CRITICAL TO IT.
UH, CERTAINLY NOT AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN HERE.
UM, THANK YOU FOR TAKING EVERY CONSIDERATION YOU CAN WITH REGARDS TO CLEANING UP THE SITE, PR, STEWARDSHIP OF IT, AND, UH, PROTECTING THE TREE COVERAGE THAT'S THERE LIKE THE OTHERS HAVE SAID.
I WOULD ALSO LOVE IT IF YOU HAD SOMEONE ON SITE WHEN DEALING WITH SOILS AND ESPECIALLY WITH THE, THE GRADING.
I'M NOT GONNA SAY ISSUES, BUT CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED.
UH, AND ALSO IF YOU ARE WILLING TO PUSH FOR THAT HIGHER STANDARD, ESPECIALLY WITH CONSIDERATIONS TO THE DRIP LINE, THAT WOULD BE APPRECIATED.
BUT IT'S CERTAINLY NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PUSH, UH, BEYOND THAT.
I'M JUST INCREDIBLY SUPPORTIVE OF WHAT YOU'VE DONE HERE AND APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS THE FIRST TIME ON A DIFFERENT PARCEL.
AND I WENT BACK AND CHECKED WHAT WE HAD THEN.
AND AS I RECALL AT THAT TIME, YOU ALSO DID AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF WORK TO CONTOUR, TO HOUSE TO THAT SLOPE AND THEN NOT HAVE IT AGAIN EMERGE FOR THE NEIGHBORS TO SEE.
SO THANK YOU FOR GOING THROUGH THIS WITH US NOW.
UH, CAN I GET A MOTION FROM SOMEONE? THANK YOU.
RAEL, PLEASE GIVE US A ROLL CALL.
COUNCIL MEMBER CATER THOMPSON.
I THINK THIS IS THE HAPPIEST ANY OF OUR DECISIONS HAVE MADE ANYONE
I STILL DON'T KNOW HOW GROCERIES ARE GONNA FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, BUT THAT'S THE THING.
BUT IT'S YOUR HOUSE, SO THAT'S WHY THEY HAVE KIDS.
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WE'LL MOVE STRAIGHT INTO COMMISSION COMMENT.UH, THIS TIME I'M GONNA START WITH ROGER, UM, O ONLY A, A BRIEF, UH, UPDATE THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UH, THROUGH DISCUSSION SUGGESTED THAT WE OPEN UP A FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION REGARDING, UM, SUBMITTALS AND, UM, THE, UH, SPARSE SUBMITTAL AND, AND POTENTIALLY MISSING SOME LINKS BETWEEN, UH, VESTED TENTATIVE MAP APPROVAL AND SPARSE SUBMITTAL.
SOME THINGS MIGHT GET DROPPED BETWEEN THE CRACKS, SO RE QUESTIONING THAT, MAYBE
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TRYING TO REINFORCE THE, UM, UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT SHOULD BE SUBMITTED AND WHAT SHOULD BE RESOLVED AT WHAT LEVEL.AND I'VE SENT A LETTER TO ANDREW AND HE'S GOING TO FURTHER DISCUSS IT AND WE'LL COME BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING.
I DO, UH, I DID RECEIVE THE LETTER.
UM, WE'LL REVIEW IT AND, AND MAKE SOME STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEN, UM, SHARE IT WITH YOU, UH, COMMISSIONER MCCAROLINE FOR DISCUSSION AT THE APRIL 9TH MEETING.
UM, I HAVE A LIMITED COMMENT IF ONLY TO SAY BY OUR NEXT MEETING THERE'LL BE SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT POTENTIAL HOUSING POLICY SHIFTS ON THE HORIZON, SO I'LL HAVE A LENGTHIER COMMENT ON THAT.
I'M SORRY, ANDREW, IT'S NOT MY FAULT.
UM, BUT SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE COMING AND WE'RE GOING THROUGH THAT TIME OF YEAR, UH, WITH THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS.
IT'S WORTH BRINGING UP AT THE MEETING NOW OR AT THAT MEETING.
UH, WE HAVE NOT HAD A PBAC MEETING SINCE OUR LAST PLANNING MEETING.
UH, AND JUST A QUICK REMINDER AGAIN WITH THE TREE COMMITTEE.
ARBOR DAY, UH, APRIL 27TH, JUST AROUND THE CORNER THAT IS GONNA BE AT PRINCE PARK ON THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN.
WE'RE GONNA BE DOING SOME MULCHING AROUND THE OAK TREE THERE.
UM, WE ARE ALSO PLANNING ON HAVING FOOD TRUCKS AND EVENTS, SO JUST WANNA GIVE A SHOUT OUT APRIL 27TH FOR ARBOR DAY, PRINCE PARK, RICK, NOTHING TO THAT COUNCIL MEMBER.
OH, I GUESS AT MY LAST, LAST SCTA MEETING, UM, THERE ARE CONCERNS ABOUT THE BUDGET IN SACRAMENTO, AS I'M SURE
AND SO THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, JUST WITH PROJECTS COMING FORWARD, FUNDING ON PROJECTS AND ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, HOUSING PROJECTS, TRANSPORTATION.
SO THERE'S, UM, THERE'S A LOT COMING DOWN FROM SACRAMENTO AND IT'S NOT ALL GREAT.
UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A CYCLE.
I MEAN, IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME, BUT YOU JUST HATE TO HAVE ONE ON YOUR TIMEFRAME WHEN YOU KNOW YOU WANNA PUSH PROJECTS.
BUT I WAS, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M REALLY TRYING TO PUSH, YOU KNOW, CORONA, YOU KNOW, TO UPGRADE THAT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE SMART STATION, UM, BEING BUILT, WHICH I HAVE A BEAUTIFUL PICTURE OF WORK BEING DONE AT NIGHT ON THE SMART STATION THAT SOMEBODY HAD SENT ME.
THAT'S REALLY INTERESTING, YOU KNOW, WITH WORKING ON THE LINES.
UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STILL MOVING ALONG WITH SCTA AND, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GET THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
YOU KNOW, OURS INTEGRATED WITH THE COUNTIES, WHICH WILL BE REALLY NICE.
UM, ON, UM, APRIL 20TH IS THE BUTTER AND EGGS DAY PARADE, JUST TO LET PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THAT.
AND LET'S SEE, ANYTHING ELSE? I, MY WATER, UM, COMMITTEE I'M ON, I'M, WE'RE MEETING THURSDAY, SO I'LL GIVE AN UPDATE, YOU KNOW, NEXT TIME.
BUT WHAT'S HAPPENING, THEY'RE, WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT DIFFERENT WELLS AND IN DIFFERENT AREAS TO SEE IF THERE'S SEAWATER, INFILTRATION AND JUST CHECKING ON OUR, OUR WELLS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE FUNCTIONAL AND WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS, YOU KNOW? SO THAT'S ABOUT IT FOR ME.
AND, UH, I WILL REFRAIN FROM ANY COMMENTS ON THE STATE BUDGET, BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT PRETTY.
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ACTUALLY HAVE A, I DON'T WANNA SAY LENGTHY, BUT, UH, A FAIRLY NECESSARY, UH, STAFF COMMENT FROM OUR PLANNING MANAGER WITH THINGS THAT ARE COMING UP.THANK YOU CHAIR, AND THANK EVERYONE FOR YOUR SERVICE THIS EVENING.
UM, UH, I WANT TO START BY, BY REMINDING YOU OR OR SHARING WITH YOU THAT THE, UH, 2024 COMMISSION COMMITTEES AND BOARDS RECRUITMENT PROCESS IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER.
UM, SO THE CITY WILL BEGIN, UH, THE APPLICATION PROCESS WILL START ON MAY 1ST AND, UH, CONCLUDE ON MAY 31ST.
COUNCIL WILL MAKE APPOINTMENTS DURING JUNE AND, UH, THE NEW TERMS WILL COME INTO EFFECT ON JULY 1ST, 2024.
UH, FOLLOWING THIS EVENING'S MEETING.
UM, URIEL WILL DISTRIBUTE AN EMAIL, UH, WITH THOSE INSTRUCTIONS AND WE'RE CERTAINLY AVAILABLE TO SUPPORT YOU ALL.
UH, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN, OR IF YOUR TERM OF SERVICE IS COMING TO AN END, YOU'RE INTERESTED IN REAPPOINTMENT, WE CAN VERIFY THOSE TERMS OF SERVICE FOR YOU, UM, POINT YOU IN THE DIRECTION OF APPLICATION FORMS AND SO FORTH.
SO, UH, JUST PLEASE FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT TO US.
UH, THE SECOND ITEM, THE FRAMEWORKS, UH, THE GENERAL PLAN UPDATE FRAMEWORKS WERE RELEASED, AND I BELIEVE YOU ALL RECEIVED THE EMAIL ABOUT THAT.
AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S, IT'S A HUGE AMOUNT OF INFORMATION, UM, REPRESENTING THE CULMINATION OF ALMOST FOUR YEARS OF WORK.
UM, AND, AND REALLY WE'RE JUST NOW STARTING THE, THE DRAFT REVIEW PROCESS.
SO STILL A LOT OF WORK LEFT TO DO, UM, ON APRIL 9TH.
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AND, AND, AND LET ME PREFACE THIS BY SAYING TOO, THAT PLANNING COMMISSION'S ROLE IS PIVOTAL IN THAT WORK.UH, ESPECIALLY THE REVIEW WORK BECAUSE ALL OF THE, THE FRAMEWORKS AS THEY ARE REFINED INTO ELEMENTS, THEN ALL OF THOSE ELEMENTS WILL COME, COME THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL.
AND OF COURSE IT WOULD BE EXTREMELY CHALLENGING TO, UM, REVIEW AND COMMENT ON EACH OF THOSE ELEMENTS.
UM, BUT FORTUNATELY WE HAVE OTHER COMMITTEES, COMMISSIONS AND BOARDS WHOSE PRIMARY ROLE IS ON SOME OF THOSE TOPICAL AREAS.
AND SO WE WILL BE LOOKING TO THEM TO PROVIDE THAT PRIMARY REVIEW AND THEN WORKING WITH THE COMMISSION, UM, TO RECEIVE COMMENTS FROM THEM TO UNDERSTAND THE CONTEXT IN WHICH THEY'VE BEEN REVIEWED AND RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE BEEN MADE IN, IN ALL TO TRY TO FACILITATE THE WORK THAT YOU NEED TO DO TO REVIEW ALL OF THE ELEMENTS AND MAKE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL.
SO IT, IT SEEMED ADVISABLE THAT WE ACTUALLY SPEND A STUDY SESSION TALKING ABOUT HOW THAT MIGHT LOOK AND HOW WE CAN FACILITATE THAT FOR ALL OF US, UM, TO GET THE WORK DONE THAT WE NEED TO GET DONE, YOU KNOW, IN A RELATIVELY SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME.
UM, BUT THEN ALSO TO HAVE IT BE MEANINGFUL FOR YOU AS WELL SO THAT YOU FEEL THAT YOU ARE DOING YOUR DUE DILIGENCE.
SO ON APRIL 9TH, THE, UH, GENERAL PLAN UPDATE TEAM WILL BE JOINING US.
WE'LL DO A BRIEF, UM, OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE PROCESS LOOKS LIKE OF REVIEWING THE DRAFT FRAMEWORKS AND THEN THE NEXT STEPS FROM THE DRAFT FRAMEWORKS.
AND THEN WE'LL REVIEW, UH, AND TALK WITH THE COMMISSION ABOUT HOW WE WANT TO, UM, OR RECOMMEND THE COMMISSION EXERCISE THEIR, UH, THEIR DUE DILIGENCE AND REQUIREMENTS FOR REVIEW OF THE FRAMEWORKS.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WILL BE REQUESTED IS THAT THE COMMISSION FORM TWO AD HOC COMMITTEES, UH, TO REVIEW FRAMEWORKS.
WE HAVE SOME FRAMEWORKS THAT DON'T HAVE A, UM, A TOPICAL EXPERT, BUT THEY DO NEED TO BE REVIEWED.
AND, UH, I THINK, I BELIEVE THERE'S SIX OF THOSE.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THE LAND USE FRAMEWORK, WHICH HAS NOT BEEN RELEASED YET, THAT WON'T BE RELEASED UNTIL, UM, LATER ON.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT, UM, ESTABLISHING THE AD HOC COMMITTEES, ASSIGNING THOSE FRAMEWORKS FOR REVIEW, AND THEN, UH, SO THAT THAT PROCESS ISN'T TOO DAUNTING.
WE'RE ALSO ARRANGING TO MAKE PLANNING STAFF AND THE GENERAL PLAN UPDATE TEAM AVAILABLE TO THE AD HOCS TO WORK WITH YOU AND SUPPORT YOU DURING THOSE REVIEWS.
SO I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE A REALLY IMPORTANT MEETING WHERE WE KIND OF WORK THROUGH SOME OF THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF HOW WE'LL WORK, UM, IN THE UPCOMING MONTHS.
UM, AND THEN, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A FAIRLY ACTIVE, UM, AGENDA FOR THE REST, THE REMAINDER OF APRIL AND MAY.
THE GENERAL PLAN THEN WILL BE MAY 28TH, WHERE THE, UM, FLOOD, UH, SEA LEVEL RISE FRAMEWORK AND MOBILITY TRANSPORTATION FRAMEWORKS WILL COME TO YOU FOR REVIEW.
BUT IN THAT, IN THE INTERIM, WE'VE GOT, UM, JUST AN ARRAY OF PUBLIC HEARINGS, UM, BOTH LEGISLATIVE ITEMS, DEVELOPMENT REVIEW ITEMS, A COUPLE OF STUDY SESSIONS THAT WE NEED TO GET THROUGH.
SO, UH, WE'VE, WE'VE DISCUSSED WITH CHAIR THE, UM, RECOMMENDING THAT WE SCHEDULE A SPECIAL MEETING FOR MAY 21ST.
UM, AND, UH, FOLLOWING THIS MEETING THEN URIEL WILL GO OUT WITH A, UH, QUORUM CHECK FOR THE MAY 21ST MEETING.
UM, THAT, THAT MEETING IN PARTICULAR WOULD INCLUDE A STUDY SESSION OF A, A PROPOSED PROJECT.
INFORMATION WILL BE FORTHCOMING ON THAT, AS WELL AS, UM, PLANNING, COMMISSION'S REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATION OF THE URBAN GROWTH BOUNDARY BALLOT MEASURE SO THAT WE CAN ENSURE THAT WE'RE MEETING ALL OF OUR, UH, DEADLINES FOR THAT.
UM, SO I, I KNOW THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE, BE A BUSY TIME AND, AND JUST DRESSED ASSURED THAT, THAT WE ARE MAKING PLANS TO SUPPORT AND FACILITATE ALL OF THE WORK THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ASKING YOU TO DO BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT IT IS GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANT OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.
AND THEN I THINK AROUND, UM, PROBABLY JULY, AUGUST TIMEFRAME, WE'LL LOOK FOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO TAKE A BREAK AND, UH, AND, UM, SEE IF WE CAN'T, YOU KNOW, TAKE A MONTH OFF AND THEN REGROUP AND COME BACK.
SO JUST WANNA SHARE THAT WITH YOU THAT, THAT, UM, WE, WE ARE TRYING TO BALANCE THE WORKLOAD WITH, WITH OPPORTUNITIES TO GET THROUGH IT IN THE BEST POSSIBLE WAY.
AND, UM, I BELIEVE THAT'S ALL I HAVE THEN THIS EVENING CHAIR.
I CAN'T WAIT TO LOOK AT OUR CALENDAR.
UH, DID ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE ADJOURN? OKAY, WELL,
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WE'RE GONNA ADJOURN FOR THE FIRST TIME AT 7:10 PM EVERYBODY.