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SHOULD WE HAVE A ROLL CALL? OKAY.
SO THE UH, FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS AD COMMITTEE FOR LABOR DAY PROGRESS.
APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FOR MARCH 20.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE VICE CHAIR.
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TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
ALL IN FAVOR? YOU WANNA DO IT BY ROLL CALL? I'M, EXCUSE ME.
ROLL CALL VOTE, OR, OR JUST A HI.
[PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION]
UH, THE NEXT ITEM IS, UH, AD HOC COMMITTEE FOR ARBOR DAY PROGRESS UPDATE.UH, SO VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE ARBOR DAY EVENT AS IT'S COMING TOGETHER RIGHT NOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE COMMUNITY GROUPS.
UM, RIGHT NOW CONFIRMED IS DAILY ACTS, RELIEF, LAFFERTY RANCH, OPEN SPACE, UM, AND POTENTIALLY ONE OR TWO OTHERS THAT I DON'T WANNA SAY FOR SURE.
BUT THOSE WILL BE THE THREE PRIMARY GROUPS.
AND THEN I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT ALL THE OTHER EVENTS WE HAVE GOING ON.
BUT THE MAIN EVENT IS GONNA BE THE MULCHING OF THE GIANT ANCIENT OAK TREE THERE AT PRINCE PARK.
UM, I THINK WE'RE FOLLOWING STEPHEN SWAINS GUIDANCE OF DOING ABOUT SIX INCHES OF MULCH OUT TO THE DRIP LINE.
THAT'S A LITTLE BIT SUBJECT TO CHANGE, UH, 'CAUSE THAT WOULD BE A LOT OF MULCH, LIKE 50 TO A HUNDRED YARDS OF MULCH.
SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE VOLUNTEERS COMING OUT FROM SOME OF THOSE COMMUNITY GROUPS.
I BELIEVE THE GIRL SCOUTS MIGHT COME OUT TOO, TO PROVIDE, TO JUST BE PART OF THE EVENT.
UM, SO VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
BUT DEFINITELY WANT TO ENCOURAGE ALL OF OUR TREE COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO GET FRIENDS AND FAMILY, AND I MEAN STRANGERS IN THERE 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA NEED PEOPLE
BUT, UH, ASIDE FROM THAT, WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME REALLY EXCITING ART EVENTS.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE A BIG COMMUNITY MURAL WHERE PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE ABLE TO COME ON A BACKDROP.
IT'S GONNA BE A BIG CANVAS BACKDROP WITH LIKE A GROUND, A RIVER AND A SKY.
AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE AN ARTIST THERE SHOWING PEOPLE HOW TO DRAW TREES ON THE BACKDROP.
SO THE IDEA IS PEOPLE CAN KIND OF ROTATE AND WE CAN EVENTUALLY HAVE THIS COMMUNITY MADE FOREST THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO KEEP AND USE IN THE FUTURE.
AND THEN WE'RE ALSO GONNA HAVE, UH, MUSIC THERE, AT LEAST TWO MUSICIANS WHO ARE GONNA BE THERE, UM, PLAYING GUITAR.
ONE ACOUSTIC ONE WITH A WIRELESS AMP.
WE ARE GONNA HAVE OUR FOOD TRUCK THERE.
CONFIRMED A FOOD TRUCK CALLED THE SPOT SELLS BURGERS AND SANDWICHES.
THEY'RE REALLY EXCITED TO BE PART OF THE EVENT.
UH, AND THAT'S KIND OF LIKE THE BIG HIGHLIGHTS.
UM, AND IN TERMS OF PROMOTION, LIKE I SAID, ALL TREE COMMITTEE MEMBERS HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO SPREAD THE WORD, BUT WE'RE ALSO PUTTING OUT, UH, FLYERS.
IT'S GONNA BE GOING OUT ON THE CITY EMAIL BLAST NEXT WEEK.
AND PART OF THAT IS WE HAD TO GET GRAPHICS TOGETHER AND A FLYER.
SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO PUT IT OUT EVERYWHERE.
UM, AND WE ARE ENGAGING LIKE AQUAS AND DIFFERENT RESTAURANTS AND COMMUNITY GROUPS TO SPREAD THE WORD.
BUT REALLY, I MEAN, THIS EVENT'S GONNA BE GREAT.
I THINK IF WE HIT LIKE 50 TO A HUNDRED PEOPLE WHO AREN'T TAC MEMBERS, THAT WOULD BE A HUGE SUCCESS.
UM, AND I THINK THERE COULD BE A LOT MORE.
I'M ALREADY HEARING PEOPLE TALK ABOUT IT.
BUT I THINK WE'VE ALSO BUILT A GREAT MOMENTUM FOR NEXT YEAR.
'CAUSE WE'RE HOPING THIS IS LIKE A MAINSTAY EVENT ALONGSIDE BUTTER AND EGGS.
THE ANTIQUE FAIR WILL BE THE TREE FEST, AND I'M REALLY EXCITED FOR WHAT WE'VE CREATED.
MYSELF, HOWARD, MARIANNE, CINDY, AND THEN THE WHOLE COMMITTEE AND WHAT WE'LL GET TO GROW THIS INTO.
APRIL 27TH, 11:00 AM TO 3:00 PM ATTENDANCE IS, IS MANDATORY.
ANY, UH, INPUTS FROM THE COMMITTEE? ANY INPUT, ANY PUBLIC INPUT? NO.
I'LL, I'D LIKE TO JUST SAY THAT I'M SO IMPRESSED.
IT'S BE, THE POSTER IS BEAUTIFUL FROM A GRAPHIC DESIGN AND BRANDING STANDPOINT.
IT'S JUST, UM, A HUNDRED PERCENT JUST EXCELLENCE AND THAT YOU GUYS PULLED THIS TOGETHER IN A, UM, TO BE A VERY CREATIVE, VERY INTERESTING, UM, EVENT WITH THE MAIN EVENT BEING THE ESSENCE OF THE TREE COMMITTEE'S FUNCTION, YOU KNOW, THE BRAND OF LET'S TAKE CARE OF THIS ANCIENT, UM, OAK TREE BY PUTTING THE MULCH DOWN.
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LET'S CARE FOR IT.THE SPIRIT, THE, UM, REPRESENTATION OF WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU TAKE CARE OF YOUR TREE.
SOMETHING LIVES TO BE A LONG TIME.
I'M JUST SO IMPRESSED THAT I'M NOT SURE THAT TREE COMMITTEES HAD A, AN EVENT BEFORE OF THIS SCALE.
UM, BUT I'M VERY IMPRESSED AND KUDOS AND THANK YOU.
THAT SOUNDS LIKE GREAT WORK YOU GUYS HAVE DONE.
UM, HAVE, ARE YOU GONNA ADVERTISE IN THE ARGUS? 'CAUSE I WAS LOOKING AT THE EVENTS, UH, CALENDAR THERE AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE TO PAY TO ADVERTISE THERE.
FUNNY YOU SHOULD SAY THAT, UH, WE HAD A CONNECTION WITH RELIEF WHO PUT US IN CONTACT WITH A REPORTER FOR THE ARGUS.
SO THERE'S GONNA BE AN ARTICLE SUBMITTED ON FRIDAY.
THEY'VE TALKED TO MARYANNE AND MYSELF TO GET DETAILS ON THE EVENT.
UH, AND I BELIEVE SOME MEMBERS ARE RELIEF AND I'M HOPING THEY'RE ENGAGING, YOU KNOW, AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE.
BUT I THINK WE SHOULD SEE AN ARTICLE, I DUNNO IF IT'LL GO TO PRINT THIS FRIDAY OR IF SHE SUBMITS IT, BUT PROBABLY BY NEXT WEEK IT'LL BE AN ARTICLE.
SO, UH, UNFORTUNATELY I'M GONNA BE OUT OF TOWN UNHANG MY ART GALLERY, HANGING
UH, I HAD AN ART GALLERY, UH, OPENING FOR A MONTH, SO I DON'T HAVE TO TAKE IT ALL DOWN IN LA SO I'LL, I WON'T BE, ALTHOUGH IT SOUNDS INTERESTING.
UM, NEXT DAY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ARBOR DAY CELEBRATION.
UH, I THINK THAT WAS A MISPRINT, SO WE CAN SKIP THAT.
THAT ONE SHOULD HAVE, SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ON THE AGENDA, SO WE SKIP IT.
TO AD HOC COMMITTEE PROGRESS UPDATE.
THAT'S ALSO HOWARD, HOWARD'S NOT HERE, BUT EVERLY WAS THERE.
DO YOU HAVE ANY UPDATES FOR THE AD HOC COMMITTEE? I, I HAVEN'T HEARD OF ANY, ANY MOVEMENT IN THAT AREA.
WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.
COMMUNICATION AND OUTREACH AD HOC COMMITTEE PROGRESS UPDATE.
UM, THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH AD HOC COMMITTEE, UM, MET, UH, OUR RECENT ACTIVITY SINCE OUR LAST MEETING IS WE MET WITH HEATHER HINES, UM, WHO WE ARE FAMILIAR WITH.
THEY ARE, HER TEAM IS WRITING THE TREE ORDINANCE.
UM, AND IN TANDEM WHAT GOES WITH THE TREE ORDINANCE IS THE STREET TREE MUNICIPAL CODE.
BUT IN TERMS OF THE TREE ORDINANCE, WE MET WITH HEATHER AND WE TALKED ABOUT NUANCES.
NUANCES OF THE ORDINANCE THAT WILL MAKE ALL THE DIFFERENCE IN PETALUMA, GIVEN OUR UNIQUE OPPORTUNITIES AND CHALLENGES OPERATIONALLY, CULTURALLY, CLIMATE OR ENVIRONMENT WISE.
NOT LIKE IN TERMS OF CLIMATE CHANGE, BUT JUST WHO WE ARE, WHERE WE ARE, AND HOW WE LIVE.
AND IT WAS A REALLY GOOD MEETING, UH, BECAUSE, UH, WE WERE ABLE TO GET TO DIS A DISCUSSION ABOUT ENFORCEMENT CHALLENGES, RIGHT? AND WE KNOW THAT, UM, UNFORTUNATELY PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR CHRISTOPHER BOLT, IS NO LONGER WITH US.
UM, BUT IT COMES DOWN TO HOW DO WE POSITION A POLICY SO THAT THE RESIDENTS WILL, UH, ADOPT IT, ABIDE BY IT, UH, AND, UM, EMBRACE IT, AND THAT WE WILL KNOW THAT WE HAVE TRACTION AND THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO MOVE THE NEEDLE THROUGH CHANGE IN BEHAVIOR.
SO WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE CONCEPT OF ENFORCEMENT, AND UNDER THE CONCEPT OF ENFORCEMENT, WE WERE ABLE TO GET TO DARREN AND I, UM, UH, OUR ARTIST IN RESIDENCE.
UM, BUT DARREN AND I WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE HEATHER WITH SOME DETAILS AROUND ANOTHER LEADING TREE CITY THAT HAS REALLY CLOSED OFF ALL THE OFF RAMPS.
AND IN TERMS OF CONTRACTORS THAT THE CITY, UM, ALLOWS TO WORK IN, UH, IN, ON ANY PRIVATE LAND AND CERTAINLY PUBLIC LAND IN THIS LEADING TREE CITY.
IT'S CALLED, UM, PACIFIC GROVE, IT'S DOWN IN MONTEREY, THAT THEY HAVE A PROCESS THAT ALL CONTRACTORS THAT WANNA DO BUSINESS IN THE CITY OF PETALUMA ABIDE BY.
AND IT'S TOTALLY CODIFIED AND IT'S LOCKED IN WITH THEIR, UM, PROJECT MANAGEMENT SAFE, UH, SOFTWARE THAT ALL CHECKS AND BALANCES ARE IN PLACE.
AND SO YOU'RE BASICALLY, IT'S A GREAT SOLUTION
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FOR WHAT WE SEE GOING ON HERE.ALL OF US SEE, YOU KNOW, TREE SERVICES COME IN WITH SOME S POTENTIALLY SUSPECT RECOMMENDATIONS OF WHY RESIDENTS NEED TO CHOP THEIR TREES DOWN.
AND THIS ELIMINATES THAT BECAUSE THERE'S, UM, I'LL, I'LL SPARE YOU THE DETAILS, BUT THERE'S EXPERTISE LOCKED IN.
THERE'S DOCUMENTATION LOCKED IN, AND THERE'S, UM, OVERSIGHT AND ACCOUNTABILITY LOCKED IN.
AND THEN, UM, I'LL JUST SAY THAT THE LAST ASPECT OF ENFORCEMENT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IS SOMETHING THAT WAS ALSO KIND OF TOUCHED UPON IN A MEETING THAT I WAS ABLE TO ATTEND, UH, WITH THAT EVERLY BROUGHT TO TOWN.
AND THAT WAS WITH, UH, A TREE EXPERT.
AND, AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW TO TAKE CARE OF OUR TREES THAT ARE ALREADY IN THE GROUND AND HOW TO HELP THEM ALONG WHEN THEY'RE FEELING A LITTLE STRESSED, A LITTLE ILL.
AND, UM, AND SO THAT, UH, KIND OF BROADEN OUR THINKING ABOUT HOW OUR AD HOC COMMITTEE CAN THINK ABOUT HAVING EVEN MORE IMPACT, LOW HANGING FRUIT TYPE OF IMPACT IN THE CITY, UH, WITH REGARD TO EDUCATING AND SUPPORTING WITH, WITH OUR BEHAVIOR AND WITH OUR WORDS, WHAT IT MEANS TO TAKE CARE OF SOME OF OUR STRESS TREES THAT JUST SIT THERE EVERY DAY WHEN WE DRIVE BY THEM BECAUSE OF, LET'S JUST CALL IT KIND OF AN ENFORCEMENT LOOPHOLE.
YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENTS THAT GO IN, HEATHER SAID, IF THOSE TREES ARE GETTING CHOPPED DOWN, GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FOR THOSE DEVELOPMENTS.
THEY SHOULDN'T, LIKE OLD DAMN VILLAGE, MY GOD, THEY JUST MOWED DOWN EVERY SINGLE TREE IT SEEMS IN THAT PLACE.
AND SHE SAID, ALWAYS GO BACK TO THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL BECAUSE WE NEED TO HOLD THEIR FEET TO THE FIRE.
AND IF WE'RE HAVING BAD TREATMENT OF TREES IN OUR CITY AND NEGLECT, NEGLECT OF WATERING, NEGLECT OF MAINTENANCE DISEASE TREATMENT, WE CAN GO BACK AND JUST LOOK AT THAT AS A TREE COMMITTEE.
WE CAN TAKE THAT ON OURSELVES AND GET A LITTLE TRACTION ON THAT FRONT.
AND I FOUND THAT TO BE VERY EXCITING.
AND I'LL JUST ADD IN REALLY QUICK FROM THAT MEETING, SOMETHING ELSE THAT I THINK WAS A REALLY A POSITIVE IS WE TOLD HEATHER SOME OF THE THINGS WE'VE LEARNED FROM OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND OTHER LOCAL TREE EXPERTS IN TERMS OF PROCESS AND SOME OF THE ISSUES WE HAVE AS A CITY.
AND I THINK ACTUALLY THE CURRENT, AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND IT, LAYOUT, UH, KIND OF INTERNALLY OF HOW WE DEAL WITH TREE ISSUES REALLY IS SET UP RIGHT NOW IN A PRETTY GOOD WAY.
WHILE WE DON'T HAVE A FULL URBAN FORESTRY DEPARTMENT OR DEDICATED STAFF YET, THERE IS KIND OF A CENTRALIZED POINT NOW WHERE, UH, CITY ENGINEER KENT CARUTHERS IS REVIEWING DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS FROM PEOPLE THAT WANNA BUILD A DEVELOPMENT AND HAVE AN ASSOCIATED TREE PLAN.
HE'S KIND OF GETTING THAT IN THE INITIAL APPLICATION TO REVIEW.
AND THEN HE'S ALSO GETTING PERMIT REVIEWS FOR ENCROACHMENT PERMITS FOR STREET TREES.
AND HE IS SEPARATELY, AND THIS IS COMING FROM HEATHER, I DON'T WANT TO UH, SAY ANYTHING, BUT I THINK SHE SHARED IT WITH US.
UH, HE'S CONTRACTED SEPARATELY WITH BEN ANDERSON.
SO HE NOW HAS INPUT FROM KIND OF OUR TREE CONSULTANT THAT'S DOING SO MUCH WORK IN THE CITY TO, AT THE BEGINNING OF BOTH OF THOSE PROCESSES, WHETHER IT'S A, LIKE A STREET TREE PERMIT OR A DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO INJECT THAT EXPERTISE TO INFORM THOSE DECISIONS.
AND THEN THEY MATRICULATE DOWN DIFFERENT PROCESSES, YOU KNOW, AFTER KENT REVIEWS THEM, THEN DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS WITH A TREE COMPONENT, GO TO PLANNING FOR REVIEW.
AND AS THEY DO THEIR INSPECTIONS, INCLUDING THEIR FINAL INSPECTION, THEY'LL MAKE SURE ALL THE RULES ARE FOLLOWED, ANY RELEVANT CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
AND THEN THE OTHER SIDE GOES THROUGH PUBLIC WORKS, THE ENCROACHMENT PERMIT, UH, THE ONE THING.
SO I THINK THAT PROCESS WISE, IT'S REALLY NICE TO SEE NOW YOU JUST ADD ON MORE EXPERTISE.
EVENTUALLY THERE CAN BE ANOTHER DEPARTMENT MAYBE AT THE START AND FINISH.
UH, BUT UNTIL WE GET THERE, AT LEAST THERE ARE THESE KIND OF REALLY KEY POINTS WHERE THINGS ARE CONCENTRATED.
WE CAN HAVE EXPERTS IN THE ROOM TO HELP MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS.
BUT THEN I THINK THE OTHER PIECE WAS UNDERSTANDING CODE ENFORCEMENT.
AND JUST RIGHT NOW IN PETALUMA, UM, WE DON'T QUITE HAVE THE PERSONNEL ON CODE ENFORCEMENT, FRANKLY, TO FOLLOW UP ON SOME OF THE THINGS WE HEAR ABOUT FROM THE PUBLIC, WHICH IS THIS PERSON CUT DOWN A TREE, THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE THIS PERSON.
WHILE WE DON'T REALLY HAVE RULES ON THE BOOKS FOR PRUNING IMPROPERLY.
UH, SO THERE'S KIND OF AN ELEMENT OF PUTTING MORE RULES ON THE BOOKS, BUT THERE'S ALSO AN ELEMENT OF HOW CAN WE BEEF UP CODE ENFORCEMENT TO BE PART OF THIS PROCESS AND OTHERS SO THAT THE RULES ON THE BOOKS THAT WE HAVE HAVE AN AVENUE, UH, HEATHER CALLED IT A WHAT NOW SCENARIO.
SHE'S LIKE, WE CAN IDENTIFY AND PICK UP ON WHEN SOMEONE'S VIOLATED ONE OF THESE RULES, BUT THEN IT'S KIND OF WHAT, NOW WHERE DOES ENFORCEMENT GO WITH THAT? AND SO AGAIN, THAT'S A COMBINATION OF SOME BETTER RULES IN THE BOOKS AND THEN JUST MORE MANPOWER, UM, AS FAR AS FAR AS WE UNDERSTAND.
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WELL, REALLY INTERESTING, UH, TOPIC.SO THANKS FOR SHARING, UH, AND, UH, GLAD THAT HEATHER AND THE CITY ARE TAKING ON THESE, THESE DIFFICULT CHALLENGE OF, UH, KIND OF REWORKING OUR MODEL HERE TO HOPEFULLY, UH, GET, GET TO WHERE WE NEED TO GO.
UH, I, I WANTED TO BRING UP SOMEWHAT RELATED TO THAT, I COULD COULD COME BACK TO IT LATER, BUT CAME UP AT COUNCIL LAST, UH, COUPLE DAYS, WAS IT LAST WEEK? UM, THE, THE NEW FEE STRUCTURE AND ONE OF THE NEW FEES THAT WAS SHOWN IS RIGHT, UM, I THINK FOR A TREE REMOVAL, UH, MAYBE IT'S JUST A STREET TREE REMOVAL FEE OF LIKE $1,200.
SO THAT'S A, I MEAN A, A SIZABLE, YOU KNOW, INCREASE FROM WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.
AND MY UNDERSTANDING WOULD PRO OR MY LO LOGIC WOULD SAY, I THINK IT PROBABLY INCLUDES NOW OUR, YOU KNOW, URBAN FORESTER OR SOME, OR BEN ANDERSON'S TIME.
AND, AND I KNOW THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE WANT TO GO IS A LOT MORE CARE AND THOUGHT BEFORE ANY SORT OF STREET TREE IS REMOVED OR ANY TREE IS REMOVED.
BUT, UM, THAT FEE WAS A BIG SURPRISE TO COUNCIL.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, JOHN, WHO'S A CHAIR OF OUR COMMITTEE HERE, REALLY WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT A LOT BETTER.
AND I THINK THEY'LL COME BACK TO THAT FEE, UM, AS YOU KNOW, AND, AND TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT HOW THAT'S GONNA, UM, WHETHER THAT MAKES SENSE.
AND, YOU KNOW, I I, SO I'D LOVE TO HEAR MORE FROM THE CITY ON THE TIMES RIGHT? ABOUT WHY THAT THAT'S THE RIGHT WAY TO GO.
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, INCENTIVE ALIGNMENT TO ME IS A BIG FACTOR IN GETTING THIS RIGHT.
AND SO IT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE ONE PERSON I TALK TO ABOUT THAT IS LIKE, HEY, LOOK, I'M THE HOMEOWNER.
I'M RESPONSIBLE FOR MY SIDEWALK, THE, THE, THE TREE THAT'S IN THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR MAINTAINING IT, FOR PLANTING IT.
AND, AND SO WHEN YOU START TACKING ON FEES, IT, UM, I COULD SEE WHERE, YOU KNOW, UH, THE INCENTIVES NOT, MIGHT NOT BE BE LINED, RIGHT, BUT I I DO UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, BEN, BEN'S GONNA BE A VALUABLE PART OF THIS OR ANY SORT OF URBAN FORESTER WOULD BE REALLY IMPORTANT TO HAVE ON STAFF.
SO, UM, ANYWAY, KIND OF WANTED TO RAISE THAT.
I TWO KIND OF CLARIFYING THOUGHTS HERE.
UM, ONE IS, WERE THOSE FEES NOT RELATED TO DEVELOPMENT AND NOT JUST NORMAL RESIDENTS? AND NUMBER TWO, I THINK WHEN WE'RE, BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE STILL WORKING ON WHAT THE FEES ARE GONNA BE PER THE TREE ORDINANCE, AND IF A TREE NEEDS TO BE REMOVED DUE TO AN EMERGENCY TYPE SITUATION, I BELIEVE WE'VE DISCUSSED, YOU CAN WAIVE THE FEE, YOU GET A PERMIT, BUT YOU WAIVE THE FEE.
SO THEN I HAVE TO WONDER, DOES THIS JUST MEAN I WANNA CHOP DOWN A CANOPY TREE FOR NO GOOD REASON KIND OF IN A SITUATION? THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS.
I BE, I BELIEVE, WAS THAT FOR CURRENT ENCROACHMENT PERMITS FOR STREET TREE REMOVALS? SO I'M NOT, I'M NOT SURE IT WAS FOR TPO THAT'LL HAVE TO BE A DIFFERENT FEE STRUCTURE, BUT A GREAT POINT BEING RAISED.
AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY THE ART THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO LEAN ON PLANNING AND PUBLIC WORKS TO FIND THAT SWEET SPOT.
UH, A BIG ISSUE, I MEAN, THAT'S REALLY GONNA BE THE BIGGEST ISSUE, RIGHT? IF WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD THESE KIND OF POLICIES IS WHAT IS WHAT IS THE RIGHT FEE STRUCTURE? YEAH.
SO WHAT WAS PROPOSED, WHAT'S IN THE CURRENT FEE SCHEDULE? SO IT'S THE UPDATING OF THE CURRENT FEE SCHEDULE.
I THINK AS YOU SEE THE TPO COME FORWARD, THERE'LL BE ANOTHER PROBABLY SET OF THINGS THAT WILL HAPPEN.
BUT AT THIS TIME OF YEAR, YOU BRING THE CURRENT FEE SCHEDULE FOR REVISION AND UPDATE AN ENCROACHMENT PERMITS, TREE REMOVAL PERMITS RIGHT NOW LIVE WITHIN THE ENCROACHMENT PERMIT PROCESS.
BUT THE ENCROACHMENT PERMIT ITSELF IS NOT JUST FOR TREE REMOVALS, IT'S FOR ANYTHING THAT YOU MAY NEED AN ENCROACHMENT PERMIT FOR.
SO BILL, I THINK, UM, I, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING FROM, BUT TO JUST KIND OF CLARIFY HOW, WHAT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD TO COUNCIL AND WHY THEY DID THAT IS BECAUSE THEY DO HAVE TO ANNUALLY UPDATE THE FEE STRUCTURE.
BUT I THINK WITH THE TPO, HOPEFULLY WE'LL SEE SOMETHING ELSE PRESENTED TO US, RIGHT, THAT WOULD GET ADDED TO THE CURRENT FEE SCHEDULE IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
YEAH, I, UH, I THINK MY LAST MEETING WITH HEATHER, I, I, I WAS COMMENTED ON THE CARROT AND STICK COMPONENT OF THIS, AND IT FEELS LIKE IT'S A LOT MORE, OR HAS BEEN, AND STILL A LOT MORE STICK THAN CARROT.
UH, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE SOME COMMUNICATION THAT'S, UH, KIND OF, UM, THE BENEFITS OF,
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OF MAINTAINING TREES, THE BENEFITS OF TREES, THE BENEFITS OF THAT THAT INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNER IS CREATING, AND THE COOPERATION THAT'S NEEDED, AND I MEAN, MORE POSITIVE AND LESS PUNISHMENT.AND, UM, AND I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING TOO, IT IS, IT'S A LITTLE, PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY AM I BEING PUNISHED TO REMOVE MY, THE TREE THAT I'VE BEEN MAINTAINING FOR SIX YEARS? WHY AM I BEING PUNISHED? IT'S MY PROPERTY, IT'S MY PROBLEM.
THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THE TREE AND OUR RELIANCE ON THEIR TREE
SO I, I THINK SOME SORT OF REALLY WELL-WRITTEN ARTICLE IN THE NEWSPAPER THAT TALKS ABOUT, HERE'S THE, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE UP AGAINST, HERE'S WHAT, HOW WE'RE TRYING TO DEAL WITH IT, AND WE ALL HAVE EVERYBODY'S GOODWILL AT, AT, AT HEART, AND WE CAN ALL KIND OF COOPERATE AND SUCCEED AND NOT PUT IT ON A PUNISHMENT BASIS.
SO I, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT GETS TO HEATHER OR, UM, HOW IT GETS INTO THE ORDINANCE, BUT IT'S, RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST SEEMS LIKE IT'S PUNISHMENT AND COST.
YOU KNOW, I THINK WE CAN DO A LOT FOR THAT CULTURE PIECE AND COMMUNICATION PIECE AS A, I ALSO, SOMETHING BEN SAID IN ONE OF OUR, OUR MEETINGS WE HAD REVIEWING THE PTPO THAT I REALLY LIKE IS THIS WILL ALL COME WITH THAT PROCESS.
BUT I REALLY LIKED THE IDEA THAT THE PERMIT STAGES KIND OF HAD AN INITIAL REVIEW WHERE IT MIGHT BE THAT THE PERMIT REALLY KICKS OFF THE ATTEMPT BY OUR CONSULTING ARBORIST TO COMMUNICATE TO THE HOMEOWNER THAT IMPORTANCE AND MAYBE HOW THEY CAN KEEP THAT TREE.
SO WE'LL HAVE TO SEE HOW THIS EVOLVES WHEN I'M HOPING THERE'S A STAGE BEFORE THE FULL INVESTMENT IS MADE, KIND OF A CONSULTATION WHERE THERE'S A SITE VISIT AND THEY SAY, WELL, YOU CAN SAVE THIS TREE BY DOING X OR, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S HOW BEN WAS KIND OF POSITIONING IT IN MILL VALLEY AND SOME OF THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THEY WORKED IN IS THERE'S KIND OF AN INITIAL SITE MEETING WHERE SOMETIMES HE'S ABLE TO JUST SHOW THE HOMEOWNER, HERE ARE THE BENEFITS, HERE'S WHY YOU SHOULD KEEP IT, AND THEY DON'T END UP NEEDING THE PERMIT, UH, WHICH COULD BE ONE GREAT WAY TO KIND OF SAVE SOME TREES.
BUT YEAH, I THINK IT'S A GREAT POINT.
MY ONLY POINT IS BY THE TIME HE, THE, THE HOMEOWNERS FROM THIS PERMIT, THEY, THEY'VE ALREADY MADE A DECISION.
SO IF THERE'S A WAY TO TO, TO UH, SHAPE OR OR SLANT THAT DECISION BEFORE IT'S MADE, IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL.
SO ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS SUBJECT? OKAY.
OH, I'M SORRY, YOUR MIC WAS ON.
UM, I WAS ASKED BY THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO, UH, DISCUSS WITH THE PLANNING MANAGER ANDREW, THE DESIRE TO GET MORE LANDSCAPE COMMITMENT IN THE EARLY SUBMITTALS OF PROJECTS SO THAT WE DON'T END UP WITH A VESTED TENTATIVE MAP THAT'S APPROVED AND THEN WE HAVE THE LANDSCAPE ISSUES COME UP AND WE HAVE NO LEVERAGE TO REALLY, UH, A, A ACHIEVE ANYTHING.
SO HE, IS THIS THE RIGHT TIME TO REPORT THAT OUTREACH? YEAH, SURE.
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YOU'RE COMMITTEE COMMENT.UM, ANY OTHER COMMITTEE COMMENTS? I'LL, I'LL SHARE AN UPDATE FROM PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE COMMITTEE.
UM, AT OUR LAST MEETING IN THE FIRST WEEK OF APRIL, UH, WE REVIEWED THE PILOT, UH, WAYFINDING BICYCLE WAYFINDING PROGRAM IN PETALUMA.
UM, IT'S KIND OF BEEN STALLED OUT AS FOR OBVIOUSLY COVID HAPPENED, BUT THERE'S BEEN A COUPLE YEARS OF TRYING TO IMPLEMENT A SMALL PILOT OF NEW BICYCLE SIGNAGE AND COMMUNICATION AND SELECT PARTS OF THE CITY.
AND NOW, UH, PUBLIC WORKS HAVING TO DECIDE DO WE KEEP THIS MOVING FORWARD AT THIS POINT OR DO WE JUST TAKE A LITTLE BIT EXTRA TIME AND NOW JUST TRY TO DO A FULL DEPLOYMENT.
AND I THINK THERE WAS SOME MIXED, UH, RESPONSE FROM PBA C AS A COMMITTEE, BUT I THINK BROADLY IT WAS KIND OF REINFORCED THAT, LOOK, JUST GET SOMETHING OUT.
UH, WE'VE HAD THIS PROJECT IN LIMBO FOR SO LONG, SO WE MAY BE SEEING PRETTY SOON A PILOT OF SOME NEW SIGNAGE AND BICYCLE WAY FINDING THROUGH THE CITY.
UM, AGAIN, THIS WOULD BE BICYCLE SPECIFIC.
IT DOESN'T, IT'S NOT AS MUCH PEDESTRIAN, IT'S NOT LIKE A WHOLE OF ALTERNATE TRANSPORT KIND OF MAPPING, BUT, UH,
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IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO SEE THAT MOVE FORWARD.UM, I JUST WANTED TO REPORT ON OUR MEETING WITH STEVEN SWAIN, WHO IS THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA AGRICULTURAL EXTENSION PERSON FOR SONOMA AND NAPA COUNTY.
AND I MET WITH SOME OF US FROM THIS COMMITTEE.
SOME PEOPLE FROM RELIEF WERE THERE, SOME PEOPLE FROM THE STREET TREE AD HOC GROUP WERE THERE.
WE MET OVER ON THE EAST SIDE NEXT TO SOME OAKS THAT I HAD BEEN LOOKING AT FOR A WHILE THAT I THOUGHT WERE REALLY ON THEIR WAY OUT.
SO THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT I, WE ALL LEARNED THAT THERE IS A LOCAL, UM, MOTH THAT HAS INFECTED THEM CALLED THE SYCAMORE BOAR.
AND IT, IT NOT ONLY AFFECTS SYCAMORES, BUT COAST LIVE OAKS AND, BUT IT MAINLY IS AN AESTHETIC PROBLEM.
IT MAKES THE BARK LOOK REALLY GNARLY, LITERALLY GNARLY.
UM, AND IT DOES KILL SOME OF THE LIMBS, BUT IT DOES RARELY CAUSES THE WHOLE TREE TO, TO DIE.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAKES THE TREE SUSCEPTIBLE IS THE DROUGHT STRESS THAT THEY'VE BEEN UNDER UNTIL THE RECENT YEARS AND SOIL COMPACTION.
SO IT WAS A GOOD ILLUSTRATION OF HOW, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST CAN'T PLANT THE TREE, SEE IT SURVIVE FOR MAYBE, WELL THESE TREES WERE ESTIMATED TO BE 20 YEARS OLD AND THEN JUST SORT OF FORGET TO GIVE THEM ANY KIND OF LOVE AND ATTENTION.
UM, AND THEN WE ALSO LEARNED ABOUT A COUPLE OF MORE SERIOUS THREATS, WHICH IS ARE A NON-NATIVE INSECT.
THERE'S, UH, AN INSECT THAT'S ALREADY BEEN FOUND IN SONOMA NAPA COUNTY CALLED AMBROSIA BEETLE, AND OH, EXCUSE ME, NO, THE OAK BO BEETLE, I THINK THAT'S, UM, MEDITERRANEAN.
AND SO, UH, THAT ONE IS ALREADY AFFECTING, UM, OUR, UH, NATIVE OAKS, VALLEY OAK, UM, AND BLUE OAK.
AND THE IMPORTANT THING THERE IS THAT IF IT'S IDENTIFIED EARLY AND YOU CAN ISOLATE IT, UH, AND MULCH THE, THE TREE AS CLOSE TO THE SITE AS POSSIBLY CAN PREVENT, UM, INFECTION INFECTING OF, OF SURROUNDING TREES.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, I THINK THE IMPORTANT THING IS EDUCATION.
YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT RIGHT NOW THE EXISTING ORDINANCE, THE REQUIREMENTS TO GET PERMITS TO TAKE DOWN OUR, OUR VARIOUS, UM, PROTECTED TREES THEY DON'T KNOW ABOUT, NOT MOVING INFECTED WOOD.
THERE'S JUST SO MUCH EDUCATION THAT NEEDS TO GO ON AROUND INFORMING THE PUBLIC ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO TO PROTECT OUR TREE CANOPY.
THERE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT HASN'T YET BEEN ADEN, ANOTHER INSECT THAT HASN'T YET BEEN IDENTIFIED UP IN, UM, OUR AREA.
IT'S BEEN, IT'S DECIMATING SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.
IT'S ANOTHER ONE OF THESE INSECTS THAT THANKS TO OUR WORLD ECONOMY HAS BEEN BROUGHT IN FROM, FROM OTHER COUNTRIES.
AND THERE'S, SO THERE'S NO KNOWN, UM, PREDATOR HERE.
SO THAT'S ANOTHER ONE THAT CAUSES SIMILAR JUST DEVASTATION OF RIPARIAN SPECIES, UM, ARE, ARE NATIVE OAKS.
UM, SO WE ALL NEED TO BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR THESE IN INFECTIONS.
UM, BUT THEY'RE HARD TO, UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE HARD TO DETERMINE EARLY ON.
SO, UM, BUT IT WAS A, I THINK IT WAS A, A, A, A GOOD MEETING AND, AND NOW I WILL STOP OBSESSING PERHAPS ABOUT THE HOAX THAT I'M LOOKING AT THAT LOOKS SO HORRIBLE, BUT ACTUALLY ARE GOING TO SURVIVE AT LEAST THE ONES THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT.
UM, I HAVE A COMMENT IF YOU DON'T MIND.
UM, FIRST, UM, THANK YOU EVERLEIGH FOR BE BRINGING STEVE TO TALK WITH SO MANY OF US, INCLUDING CITY COUNCIL, INCLUDING THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE.
IT WAS AN OUTSTANDING MEETING AND WITH A REAL CLEAR PATH FOR HOW WE CAN TAKE CARE OF SOME TREES.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT THAT, UM, I SPOKE, I THINK LAST MEETING ABOUT THE DEVASTATION ON LYNCH CREEK.
UM, IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT WE ALL TALK AND TALK AND TALK AND REPEAT MESSAGES TO CITY COUNCIL, PARKS COMMISSION, CLIMATE COMMISSION, WHOMEVER, BECAUSE IN ADVERTISING YOU NEED TO HEAR SOMETHING MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE TIMES FOR YOU TO START WRAPPING YOUR HEAD AROUND IT AND REMEMBERING IT WHEN YOU GO ABOUT LIVING YOUR, YOUR LIFE AND DOING YOUR JOB.
UM, SO, UM, RECENTLY I WAS UP AT HOWORTH PARK IN SANTA ROSA, WALKED TO SPRING LAKE AND THE PATH THERE IS A MULTI-MODAL.
IT'S GOT BIKES, PEOPLE, BABY BUGGIES, I THINK IT HAS HORSES
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AND UM, OF COURSE MAINTENANCE TRUCKS.THE CANOPY IS COMPLETE, COMPLETE OVER.
IT IS JUST LIKE LYNCH CREEK EXCEPT FOR IT HAS SUCCESSFUL CANOPY.
SO I TOOK A COUPLE OF PICTURES AND I'M DRAFTING AN EMAIL TO EVERYONE I CAN THINK OF.
THIS IS WHAT LYNCH CREEK LOOKS LIKE.
THIS IS HOW WE PRUNE ALL THOSE TREES INTO LIKE A 45 DEGREE VASE SHAPE.
BUT THIS IS WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE.
THIS IS HOW SANTA ROSA DOES IT.
SO I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY DO THAT KIND OF THING.
WE NEED TO KEEP THE MESSAGE GOING.
UM, WE NEED TO INCREASE THE REACH, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE AND DECISION MAKERS, STAFF OFFICIALS, AND WE NEED TO KEEP THE MESSAGING GOING.
THAT'S CALLED GOOD MARKETING, GOOD ADVERTISING.
UM, AND THEN I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION THAT I'VE RECENTLY BEEN RESEARCHING, UH, FOR MY DAY JOB, SOMETHING CALLED MIKAWA OR MIKAI FOREST.
AND, UM, I THINK DAILY ACTS IS ABOUT TO DO SOMETHING AND I'D JUST LIKE EVERYBODY TO LOOK INTO WHAT THAT IS, ESPECIALLY OUR PLANNING COMMISSIONERS.
IF YOU CAN START ENCOURAGING DEVELOPERS TO THINK ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
THE CONCEPT IS IT'S A VERY SMALL SPACE, LIKE A PARKING SPACE AND IT'S VERY DENSE TREES, UNDERSTORY OF NATIVE PLANTS, AND IT INCLUDES LIKE TWO INDIGENOUS TREES PER SQUARE METER.
IT'S MEANT TO BE VERY COOLING AND VERY BIODIVERSITY SUPPORTING.
SO PLEASE, UH, FELLOW COM UH, COMMITTEE MEMBERS LOOK UP THAT CONCEPT AND, UH, KEEP YOUR EYES OPEN FOR WHAT DAILY ACTS IS WORKING ON.
AND MAYBE PLEASE SHARE WITH DEVELOPERS, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU GUYS WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT WITH THE CHICK-FIL-A YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW CAN WE GET MORE TREES AND SOME OF THE COMMUNITY WERE SAYING, HOW ABOUT DANCE A DENSE CLUSTER? AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT HAPPENED, BUT HERE WE HAVE A FORMAL CONCEPT THAT'S TRENDING RIGHT NOW AND MAYBE THAT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR US.
ANY FURTHER STAFF OR COMMENTS FROM THE COMMITTEE? I GOT A, I HAD A QUESTION.
UM, WHEN I WAS SPEAKING WITH JANET FROM THE PETALUMA ARGUS CO, SHE MENTIONED THAT, UM, A BUNCH OF TREES AT SUNRISE PARK GOT DAMAGED.
DO WE, DID WE FIND OUT LIKE WHAT HAPPENED OR HOW THAT HAPPENED OR WHAT? JUST SOMEBODY RANDOM OUT THERE? YEAH, IT SOUNDS LIKE AFTER SPEAKING TO STAFF AND I CAN GO OVER SOME, MY, MY, CAN I MOVE ON TO STAFF COMMENT BECAUSE I'LL GIVE AN UPDATE.
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IT OKAY TO MOVE ON TO STAFF COMMENT NOW? OKAY.SO FIRST I'LL GO AHEAD AND ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION.
SO IT WAS BOTH MEADOW VIEW PARK AND IT SUNRISE PARK.
THOSE TREES THAT WERE PLANTED HAD PRETTY BAD DAMAGE.
IT LOOKED LIKE WHIPLASH, UM, BURNED MAYBE FROM WEED WHACKER.
WHO KNOWS? UM, IT WASN'T A MOWER BASED ON WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE.
UH, STAFF AND I WENT OUT AND TOOK A LOOK.
THERE WAS SOME STUFF THAT WAS OUT THERE WHERE LIKE MAYBE HE HIT SOME OF THEM, BUT NOT ALL OF THEM.
BUT HE DID SEE SOMEBODY IN THE PARK AS WELL.
SO, UM, RELIEF SUBMITTED A, UH, POLICE REPORT BECAUSE THEY ALSO SAW SOMEBODY IN MEADOWVIEW PARK THAT WASN'T ONE OF THEIR STEWARDS THAT WAS DOING WORK AROUND THOSE TREES.
AND SOME OF THOSE ALSO GOT THAT, THAT BURN AROUND THEM.
SO WORD ON THE STREET IS OUT, WE'RE TRYING TO FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED.
IT'S SAD, BUT WE'RE HOPING THEY'LL SURVIVE.
UM, JEFF, MY STAFF WHO HOLDS AN ARBOR'S LICENSE, WE WENT AND TOOK A LOOK AT THEM AS WELL.
SO WE'RE JUST WATCHING THEM RELIEFS, KEEPING THEIR EYE ON THEM.
IT'S SAD, IT'S REALLY UPSETTING, YOU KNOW, WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPENS.
SO WE DON'T, WE DON'T KNOW YET.
YEAH, OTHER THAN THAT, LOTS OF UPDATES.
SO THE MO BEETLE IS WHAT IS BEING CALLED THE MEDITERRANEAN OAK BORE BEETLE.
I SPOKE AND WENT TO A PRESENTATION BY THE UC EXPERT THAT'S WORKING ON IT.
IT'S NOT STEVE, BUT IT'S HIS COUNTERPART.
UM, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF RESEARCH ON IT, SO THERE'S NOT A LOT THEY CAN TELL US YET, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF IT'S IN SONOMA COUNTY, IT'S ALL OVER WINDSOR, IT'S IN ALL OF THEIR OAK TREES.
IF YOU GO TO THE TOWN GREEN, IT'S ALL OVER THEM.
IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN FOUND IN SANTA ROSA.
THERE'S BEEN NO INSTANCES IN PETALUMA.
PEOPLE HAVE SENT THEM THINGS, BUT NONE OF THEM HAVE COME TO FRUITION.
BUT IT'S A BEETLE SO THEY MOVE.
UM, BUT LIKE I SAID, EDUCATION, ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS IS THAT IF YOU FIND IT IN A TREE, WE NEED, YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE TREE DOWN IN PLACE.
SO THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS THAT THEY RECOMMEND IS TO MULCH ON SPOT OR TO LEAVE IT ON, YOU KNOW, TAKE IT DOWN AND LEAVE IT ON SPOT.
ONE OF THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THIS BEETLE IN PARTICULAR IS THAT THEY COME UP THROUGH THE STRUCTURE AND SO YOU'LL SEE IT IN THE TOP.
AND SO THERE'S A FAILURE FROM THE TOP DOWN,
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WHICH IS NOT TYPICAL OF SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS WE'VE SEEN.SO IT IS SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY REAL.
SO IF YOU SEE PEOPLE SAYING LIKE, FREE FIREWOOD IN HEALDSBURG, DO YOU WANNA MOVE IT DOWN TO PETALUMA? SAY NO, WE DON'T WANT YOUR FREE FIREWOOD.
AND I ONLY SAY THAT BECAUSE ONE OF THE MAJOR THINGS IS MOVING THIS WOOD AROUND AND THAT'S HOW IT TRAVELS.
UM, THE ONE IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF BLACK OAKS THAT HAVE BEEN DECIMATED.
BUT IF YOU'VE DONE, IF YOU'VE SEEN SOME OF THE RESEARCH, THAT IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE.
THEY'VE HAD WHOLE FORESTS JUST DISAPPEAR BECAUSE OF THIS.
BUT THAT'S WHY I PUSH FOR US TO HAVE BIODIVERSITY IN WHAT WE PLANT THAT IS NOT JUST ONE SPECIES IN PARTICULAR.
BECAUSE IF WE ONLY HAVE ONE SPECIES, THEN WE'LL LOSE ALL OUR CANOPY AT ONCE AND WE DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN.
UM, SO THANK YOU EVERLY FOR BRINGING THAT.
I THINK EDUCATION IS A HUGE PART OF IT.
MOST, I PROBABLY KNOW IT 'CAUSE I EAT LIVE AND BREATHE TREES MOST DAYS OF MY, YOU KNOW, MY WORK.
BUT I KNOW THAT EVERYBODY DOESN'T DO THAT SO MUCH APPRECIATED FOR OPENING UP THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO LEARN.
UM, THE MIYAZAKI I THINK IS MILWAUKEE FOREST.
SO IF YOU GUYS WANNA SEE, UH, A CITY THAT I KNOW OF THAT'S DOING THIS IS BERKELEY.
SO IF YOU'RE EVER DOWN IN THE EAST BAY, BERKELEY'S DOING IT.
SO THERE'S SOME EXAMPLES OR THESE THERE, THEY'RE THESE MICRO FORESTS.
SO IF YOU ACTUALLY ARE EVER OVER THERE, IF YOU JUST WANNA KIND OF TAKE A LOOK AND SEE WHAT THEY'RE DOING, I KNOW THEY'VE GOT A LOT OF THEIR STUFF POSTED ONLINE.
IT'S REALLY AN INTERESTING CONCEPT RELIEF AND I HAVE SPOKEN MULTIPLE TIMES TO SEE IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT A SPACE WHERE WE CAN DO IT IN PETALUMA.
IF, IF THERE'S A SPACE THAT WE CAN MAKE IT HAPPEN.
'CAUSE MY, YOU KNOW, MY PARKS ARE PLANNED TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE THERE CERTAIN SPACES, SO TO PUT IN, UM, A MICRO FORCE A LITTLE BIT HARDER.
BUT WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
SO IF WE CAN DO IT, WE'LL MAKE IT HAPPEN AND I'LL LET YOU GUYS KNOW, BUT IT, IT'S BEEN IN DISCUSSION FOR SURE AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT WAY IN SMALL SPACES TO HAVE A LITTLE URBAN FOREST, RIGHT? SO THAT'S REALLY, REALLY EXCITING.
UM, I WILL GIVE AN UPDATE ON MARIANNE'S BEHALF FOR REC COMMISSION LAST MONTH SINCE SHE WAS NOT ABLE TO BE THERE, AND OBVIOUSLY WE'RE HAVING OUR NEXT MEETING TONIGHT, BUT LAST MONTH WE HAD A COUPLE OF BIG THINGS.
DAILY ACTS DID COME AND THEY PRESENTED ON, UM, THEIR, UM, PROJECTS THAT THEY'RE DOING IN PARKS AND THEY START AT ME WALK PARK.
SO THEY'VE BEEN IN FULL FORCE OF DOING THOSE.
SO YOU'LL SEE THE BIOSWALES AND THINGS GOING IN IF YOU'VE GONE OVER THERE, THEY'VE BEEN IN WORK AND THEY SHOULD BE ACTUALLY FINISHING UP PRETTY SOON HERE, UM, WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH.
AND THEN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT PARK.
THERE'S A TOTAL OF FIVE PARKS.
UM, THE OTHER MAJOR PRESENTATION WAS THE BMX TRACK THAT IS, UM, PROPOSED FOR THE RACETRACK AT FAIRGROUNDS.
SO THAT WAS A HUGE PRESENTATION.
SO THOSE WERE PROBABLY TWO OF THE MAIN THINGS.
AND THEN THE THIRD BUSINESS ITEM IS THAT THE REC COMMISSION HAS SET UP AN AD HOC COMMITTEE TO, UM, OVERSEE KIND OF THE POOL, THE POOL CHANGES THAT ARE GONNA HAPPEN.
SO, UM, THOSE ARE THE MAJOR THINGS FROM REC COMMISSION OUTSIDE OF THAT THANK YOU AD HOC COMMITTEE FOR TREE FEST.
I KNOW YOU TALKED ABOUT IT COMMITTEE LAST YEAR.
SO I'M REALLY, REALLY EXCITED FOR THE WORK THAT'S BEEN PUT INTO IT.
UM, AND DARREN, I THINK REALLY TAKING THE LEAD.
UM, I THINK IT'LL BE A LOT OF FUN.
SO FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO CAN BE THERE, WE'RE REALLY HAPPY TO HAVE YOU THERE, BEING YOUR FAMILY, YOUR FRIENDS, YOUR NEIGHBORS, WHOEVER YOU WANT.
WE ARE TRYING TO GET THE WORD OUT AND WE'LL GO OUT IN THE BLAST.
WE'LL PUT IT ALSO ON THE REC SOCIAL MEDIA SITES.
UM, I'VE ASKED RACHEL AND HER TEAM YEAH.
AND I'VE ASKED HER TEAM TO SEE IF WE CAN DO AN EMAIL BLAST ALSO THROUGH CIVIC REC.
SO ANYBODY WHO'S SIGNED UP FOR A CLASS IN RECREATION WILL SEND A BLAST OUT.
SO WE'LL TRY TO GET THE WORD OUT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
AS FAR AS UPDATES, YOU STILL DO HAVE YOUR FUND INTACT, SO YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, ABOUT $11,500 SITTING THERE.
SO AT SOME POINT, IF THERE'S SOMETHING YOU WANNA DO TREE RELATED, THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, PLEASE DON'T FORGET THAT THAT FUND IS THERE FOR YOU GUYS TO, YOU KNOW, USE IN THE WAY THAT YOU SEE FIT IN REFERENCE TO TREES.
UM, THE TPO WILL BE COMING BACK TO YOU IN JULY.
HEATHER HAS BEEN WORKING ON THAT.
UM, SHE'S TAKEN A LOT OF FEEDBACK.
SHE SAID SHE MET WITH THE AD HOC, GOT A LOT OF GOOD FEEDBACK, WANTED TO DO SOME MORE RESEARCH ON THESE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ARE DOING SOME REALLY INTERESTING THINGS.
UM, BUT THAT'LL BE COMING BACK FOR, FOR MORE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMITTEE HERE.
UM, THERE ARE ALSO SOME VACANCIES THAT ARE COMING UP ON, UH, FOR AS OF JULY ONE, SO I'LL BE DOING A REACH OUT OR CATHERINE WILL BE, IF YOU'RE SITTING ON THE COMMITTEE NOW AND YOU WANNA MAKE SURE YOU GET YOUR APPLICATION TO STAY WITH US, OF COURSE.
MARYANNE, ROGER, YOU ARE A LIAISON, SO YOU, IF YOU WANNA APPLY TO BE ON THE COMMITTEE FULLY, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO.
UM, BUT YOUR POSITIONS WILL BE APPOINTED AGAIN IN THE PROCESS.
BUT FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO MAY BE FALLING OFF, UM, JUST MAKE SURE IF YOU WANNA STAY ON, YOU GET YOUR APPLICATION IN SO THE COUNCIL CAN APPOINT YOU IF THERE'S QUESTIONS, REACH OUT TO ME.
THOSE ARE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENING.
OH, NEXT MONTH I WILL BE SENDING AN EMAIL OUT.
I JUST WANTED TO WAIT UNTIL WE HAD OUR MEETING SO YOU DON'T GET CONFUSED.
NEXT MONTH WE WILL HAVE OUR NORMAL MEETING FOR ANY BUSINESS ITEMS WE HAVE, AND THEN WE WILL BE JOINING THE RMPC TO GO OVER THE GENERAL PLAN ELEMENTS.
I WILL SEND YOU AN EMAIL WITH A LINK FOR THE GENERAL PLAN ELEMENTS.
IT IS PRETTY LENGTHY, SO I'M GONNA DO THAT TOMORROW.
SO YOU HAVE THE FULL MONTH, I WANT
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YOU TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE TIME TO GO THROUGH THAT, UM, AND BRING BACK YOUR COMMENTS.BUT SO WE'LL HAVE, IT'S GONNA BE LONG AND I AM, I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT, BUT I DIDN'T WANNA CANCEL OUR MEETING AND JUST HAVE THE JOINT MEETING.
SO WE'LL HAVE OUR NORMAL TREE COMMITTEE MEETING, AND THEN NEXT MONTH WE WILL HAVE THE JOINT MEETING FOLLOWING.
SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, PLEASE REACH OUT.
I I HAVE A QUESTION THAT DOES NOT RELATE TO ANYTHING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.
UM, DRIVING NORTH WOULD, UH, PLUM BOULEVARD, THE SYCAMORES THAT ARE IN THE MEDIAN TO THE WIDEN MEDIAN WITH GRADE CHANGE AND MM-HMM,
AND EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE I NOTICE THERE'S A GAP, MEANING THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE PROBABLY WAS A TREE THERE, BUT IT'S NOT THERE ANYMORE.
WHO'S, WHO'S OVER, WHO'S OVERSEEING THAT OR WATCHING THAT OR CARRYING THE, THE MEDIANS THEMSELVES? THEY'RE PARTS OF THE BOLA, THE PEDAL ON BOULEVARD NORTH ARE, WAIT, OH, ON THE NORTH SIDE, IT, THERE'S A LINE AND AT SOME POINT IT BECOMES COUNTY.
SO AT CERTAIN POINT WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING ON PMO BOULEVARD NORTH, IT'S EITHER CITY AND THEN IT SWITCHES TO COUNTY.
SO MOST LIKELY, IF YOU'RE GETTING CLOSE TO LOMBARDI'S, I, I HAVE TO LOOK, LET ME LOOK AT THE LINE AGAIN.
IT GOES ALL THE WAY OUT TO CORONA.
I I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, I MEAN, THERE ARE, THERE ARE PETALUMA'S IMAGE AND PETALUMA'S TREES IN A, IN A SENSE, HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE BEING LOOKED AFTER AND CARED FOR AND REPLACED WHEN, WHEN NEEDED? YOU KNOW, FROM TIME TO TIME WHEN I'VE HAD QUESTIONS, I HAVE TO CALL THEIR NUMBER, UM, THE COUNTY NUMBER AND YOU JUST PUT A TICKET IN.
I HAVEN'T BEEN GIVEN A GOOD RESPONSE AS A PETALUMA CITY EMPLOYEE WHEN I'VE DONE THAT TO SAY, WHAT'S THE LOOP? I I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU.
UM, IF YOU GUYS CONTACT THE COUNTY AND CAN GET A BETTER ANSWER, PLEASE LOOP ME IN BECAUSE ALL I, THERE'S, THERE'S JUST A GENERIC NUMBER THAT YOU PUT IN AND YOU PUT A TICKET IN, BUT THERE'S NO RESPONSE.
UM, AND FROM TIME TO TIME, I'VE HAD SOME WORK DONE JUST BECAUSE I COULDN'T, I DIDN'T KNOW THE TIMELINE OKAY.
SO, SORRY, I ROGER I DON'T HAVE A BETTER ANSWER FOR YOU, BUT IF IT FALLS IN THE COUNTY AREA, WHICH I'M MOST OF THAT IS, I, I DON'T KNOW THEIR INTERNAL PROCESS FOR HOW, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE PUT IN KIND OF REQUESTS, HOW THEY GET SEEN IN THEIR TIMEFRAME FOR RESPONDING BACK, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE A TRUE PRUNING SCHEDULE.
I'M GONNA GUESS NO, BECAUSE I'VE NEVER SEEN THOSE TREES PRUNED.
SORRY, IS IT, IS IT LIKE, UM, ROAD MAINTENANCE? IS IT THE ROAD MAINTENANCE OR DO YOU KNOW LIKE WHAT DIVISION OR WHAT DEPARTMENT? I WANNA SAY IT'S IN THEIR PUBLIC.
AND THERE'S THAT, IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I'VE CALLED, UM, AND I DID PUSH FURTHER AND I ASKED FOR A SUPERVISOR BECAUSE I WAS BEING MY NORMAL SELF.
IT'S NOT THAT, IT'S NOT, EXCUSE ME.
UM, I WANT, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS, UM, HELPS, BUT I HEARD THAT THOSE SYCAMORES WERE PLANTED BY THE PETALUMA WOMEN'S CLUB, LIKE WORLD WAR I.
UM, SO I WONDER, YOU KNOW, WHERE IS THAT LINE BETWEEN, UH, OUR CITY LIMIT OR URBAN GROWTH BOUNDARY OR WHICHEVER ONE IS MORE SIGNIFICANT? YEAH, IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I'VE LOOKED IT UP BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF THEY FELT LIKE WHO IN THE CITY THE RESPONSIBILITY FELL TO.
AND THEN MY, WHEN I WAS DOING MY RESEARCH, THERE'S LIKE, OH, THEY'RE COUNTY.
AND IT'S, I CAN, I'LL LOOK IT UP AGAIN AND IF I GET THE INFORMATION, I'LL JUST KIND OF LET YOU KNOW WHERE THAT LINE, THAT DELINEATION FALLS.
I WANNA SAY IT'S, IT'S, IF YOU'RE STILL AT PALOMA WHERE IT'S BEFORE YOU HIT LOMBARDI, SO'S LIKE KIND OF A, A DELINEATION.
BUT LET ME LOOK IT UP CLEARLY SO I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I'M TELLING YOU.
IT COULD BE, IT ACTUALLY, IT COULD BE A CALTRANS 'CAUSE THAT WAS THE HIGHWAY.
IT, IT, IT WAS NOT IT'S COUNTY.
I JUST DON'T, I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHERE THE LINE IS.
ALSO, ROGER, IF WE COULD, YOU KNOW, UH, DAVID RABBITS, OUR SUPERVISOR LIVES IN TOWN, WOULD KNOW THOSE TREES.
SO WE COULD, UH, AND HE WOULD BE ABLE TO FIND OUR CONTACT THERE.
IF, IF IT'S A COUNTY ISSUE, THE CHAIRMAN OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION PROBABLY KNOWS WHO TO ASK OVER THERE.
HE'S WORKS FOR THE COUNTY, I THINK.
ANY OTHER, UM, STAFF COMMENTS? THAT'S IT.
UH, ARE YOU FROM THE PUBLIC OR DO YOU HAVE ANY INTEREST IN SPEAKING OR ASKING? NO, I, I WORK WITH CINDY.
OH, YOU'RE KEEPING HER HONEST.
SO IF WE HAVE NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, WE CAN CALL FROM ADJOURNMENT.