* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. WE GOOD? OKAY. [00:00:01] THIS, THIS. ALL RIGHT. GOOD [CALL TO ORDER] EVENING. UH, GONNA OPEN IT'S THURSDAY, MAY 2ND, AIRPORT COMMISSION. UH, GO AHEAD AND, UH, START THE MEETING. FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA. LET'S SEE. ROLL CALL. CLAUDIA, CAN YOU, UH, DO THE ROLL CALL FOR ME, PLEASE? YES, PERRY. HERE. MCCAW? HERE. SASSER. PRESENT. MARK. HERE. DIETRICH. PRESENT. DOMI. NOW, NOW, HERE. OKAY. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. UH, DID WE RECEIVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS. OKAY. SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS. WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE [PRESENTATIONS] NEXT ITEM. THE NEXT ITEM IS PRESENTATIONS. AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE WERE GONNA GET, IS THIS WHERE WE'RE GETTING THE PRESENTATION? YES. UH, JOIN US TODAY, UM, FROM THE, UH, PLANNING DEPARTMENT. WE HAVE HEATHER HINES AND, UM, THE OTHER PLANNING TEAM MEMBERS. THEY'LL BE PRESENTING THE DRAFT TRANSPORTATION FRAMEWORKS, UH, FOR THE AIRPORT COMMISSIONERS FOR, UH, FEEDBACK COMMENTS. AND, UH, WELCOME HEATHER AND TEAM. GOOD EVENING. I'M HEATHER HEINZ. I'M A SPECIAL PROJECTS MANAGER WITH THE CITY, UM, AND WORKING ON THE GENERAL PLAN TEAM. SO THIS EVENING I HAVE, UH, COLLEAGUES KELLY BOND WITH, UH, HAM PEERS, WHO IS ON THE CONSULTANT TEAM WORKING ON THE JOURNAL PLAN. RON WHITMORE IS WITH US VIRTUALLY. HE IS PART OF IAN ASSOCIATES, WHICH IS THE LEAD CONSULTANT ON THIS EFFORT. AND THEN ALSO, UM, MATT, ALSO WITH FARHAM PEERS IS HERE JUST, JUST IN CASE WE NEED ANY ASSISTANCE WITH QUESTIONS. SO WE ARE WELL EQUIPPED TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION WITH YOU, UM, AND GET YOUR FEEDBACK. SO I'M GONNA KICK IT OFF, HAND IT TO RON, AND THEN RON'S GONNA HAND IT TO KELLY. AND THEN REALLY WE'RE JUST, IT'S ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL OF US TO, UM, TALK WITH THE CCBS ON AS WE GO INTO A NEXT MILESTONE WITH THE GENERAL PLAN. SO, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO, ALWAYS GOOD TO START WITH A LITTLE REFRESHER ON WHAT IS A GENERAL PLAN. WHY ARE WE DOING THIS? SO THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY, IT REALLY HAPPENS ABOUT ONCE EVERY 20 YEARS OR SO, UM, THAT WE UPDATE AND HAVE A NEW GENERAL PLAN. AND IT'S A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMUNITY TO COME TOGETHER TO WORK ON A SHARED VISION FOR HOW WE SEE OUR COMMUNITY CHANGING, EVOLVING OVER THE NEXT PLANNING PERIOD, WHICH IS ABOUT USUALLY 20 YEARS, 20 TO 30 YEARS. UH, THE GENERAL PLAN IS A LONG-TERM POLICY DOCUMENT. SO IT'S SETTING THAT VISION AND THE POLICIES AND ACTIONS ON HOW TO GET THERE, BUT IT'S VERY DIFFERENT, UM, FROM THE KIND OF REGULATIONS LIKE OUR ZONING CODE OR FROM OUR CIP, UM, PLAN, UH, FOR PROJECTS OUT OF PUBLIC WORKS OR A BUDGETING PROCESS. SO THOSE ARE REALLY WAYS THAT YOU IMPLEMENT THE, UM, VISION OF THE GENERAL PLAN, BUT AS A POLICY DOCUMENT, IT'S MORE THAT 30,000 FOOT VIEW OF THE VISION. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. UM, WE WOULD LOVE EVERYBODY WHO WANTS TO BE INVOLVED IN THE GENERAL PLAN TO BE INVOLVED IN THE GENERAL PLAN, BECAUSE THE GENERAL PLAN DOES TOUCH ON, UH, TOPICS THAT IMPACT ALL OF US FROM HOUSING, MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING AND DIFFERENT AFFORDABILITIES OF HOUSING SO THAT WE CAN MEET THE NEEDS OF PETALUMA'S, UH, JOBS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, OUR, OUR CARBON FOOTPRINT, UM, HOW WE MOVE AROUND, UM, THE COMMUNITY, UH, PARKS AND OPEN SPACE PLACES TO ENJOY THAT COMMUNITY CHARACTER. SO ALL OF THOSE, UM, ESSENTIAL TOPICS ARE TOUCHED ON IN THE GENERAL PLAN AND REALLY TOUCH ON A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE ESSENTIAL TO OUR DAY-TO-DAY LIFE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO, OUR CURRENT GENERAL PLAN WAS ADOPTED IN 2008, AND IT HAD A HORIZON TO 2025. SO IT HAD A, A, A, A BUILD OUT OF 2025, WHICH DOESN'T MEAN THE GENERAL PLAN LIKE EXPIRES IN 2025. IT JUST KIND OF, THAT WAS THE PLANNING HORIZON THAT IT WAS LOOKING AT. UM, SO IN 2020, WE STARTED TO HAVE INTERNAL DISCUSSIONS ABOUT CHANGED CONDITIONS, UM, NEW THINGS HAPPENING, [00:05:01] UH, IN, IN THE COMMUNITY THAT THE GENERAL PLAN WAS STARTING TO FEEL LIKE IT WAS OUT OF DATE. AND WE WANTED TO START ON THAT PROCESS TO UPDATE IT. SO IN 2021, WE, UM, BROUGHT RAMIAN ASSOCIATES ON AND THEY HAVE A, A SUITE OF SUB CONSULTANTS, TECHNICAL EXPERTS, UM, TO HELP WITH THIS EFFORT. EVERYTHING FROM TRAFFIC AS WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS TODAY. UM, ECONOMICS, UM, FLOOD MODELING EXPERTS, YOU KNOW, LOTS OF THOSE TECHNICAL EXPERTISE. UM, WE ALSO, UM, ARE CURRENTLY DEVELOPING OUR CLIMATE ACTION PLAN, WHICH IS OUR BLUEPRINT FOR CARBON NEUTRALITY. SO THAT IS IN THE DRAFT FORM. WE RECENTLY WERE BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL GETTING COMMENTS ON THAT, SO WE CAN GO BACK AND BRING FORWARD THE FINAL DRAFT OF THAT FOR ADOPTION. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS IS OUR ROADMAP FOR THIS PROJECT. UM, SO STARTED OUT IN 2021, AND WE ARE NOW AT ABOUT THE ALTERNATIVE STAGE. SO WE ARE MAKING GOOD PROGRESS, UM, AND HAVE ACCOMPLISHED QUITE A BIT FROM THE EXISTING CONDITIONS, REPORTS THAT WERE DONE ON A NUMBER OF TOPICS TO KIND OF SET THAT BASELINE. UH, OUR VISIONING PROCESS, WHICH OUR GENERAL PLAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN CREATING A VISION AND PILLARS AND GUIDING PRINCIPLES OF WHERE WE WANT TO BE, UM, THROUGH THIS GENERAL PLAN PROCESS. UM, WE HAVE ADOPTED AND CERTIFIED OUR HOUSING ELEMENT. WE'VE RELEASED OUR BLUEPRINT FOR CARBON NEUTRALITY, AND WE ARE HERE TALKING ABOUT POLICY DEVELOPMENT IN THE 14 FRAMEWORKS THAT ARE OUT FOR PUBLIC REVIEW CURRENTLY. UM, OUR NEXT BIG EFFORT WILL BE ON LAND USE ALTERNATIVES. SO THAT'S THE, THE NUMBER FIVE THERE THAT WE ARE AT, BUT WE ARE, HAVE NOT DONE OUR OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT ON THAT YET. SO WITH THAT, THAT KIND OF SETS THE STAGE OF WHERE WE ARE, WHY WE'RE DOING THIS. AND I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO RON TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE POLICY FRAMEWORKS, WHAT THEY ARE, AND, UH, WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT. RON. THANK YOU, HEATHER. UH, GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE CITY OF PETALUMA AND FOR TA GIVING US TIME ON YOUR AGENDA TO SHARE WITH YOU WHAT THE, UM, CURRENT WORK OF THE GENERAL PLAN SAYS ABOUT TRANSPORTATION GENERALLY, AND THE AIRPORT SPECIFICALLY. UM, WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE, UM, AND WE UTILIZE ANY AND ALL FEEDBACK YOU HAVE FOR US AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT OF A COMPREHENSIVE GENERAL PLAN. AS HEATHER JUST MENTIONED, WHEN GIVING YOU THE OVERVIEW OF THE FRAMEWORK OR THE ROADMAP, EXCUSE ME, UM, WE SPENT A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME ON THE POLICY DEVELOPMENT PHASE AND ARE NEARING THE END OF THAT WITH THESE FRAMEWORKS AND THE PUBLIC REVIEW OF THEM, BECAUSE THEY'RE A FUNDAMENTAL CRITICAL, UM, PRECEDING STEP TO ACTUALLY PREPARING THE ENTIRE GENERAL PLAN. JUST LIKE TO EMPHASIZE THOUGH, THAT THEY ARE AN INTERIM STEP, SO THEY ARE NOT AN INITIAL DRAFT OF THE GENERAL PLAN. THEY'RE DESIGNED TO SPECIFICALLY TO IDENTIFY KEY GOALS AND POLICIES AND AS APPROPRIATE SOME IMPLEMENTATION ACTIONS SO THAT WE HAVE A CHANCE TO TALK WITH EVERYONE IN THE CITY ABOUT WHETHER WE'VE GOT THOSE GOAL GOALS WELL ARTICULATED, AND WHETHER THOSE ARE THE RIGHT POLICIES THAT'LL HELP US ACHIEVE THOSE GOALS. AND JUST A FEW QUICK, UM, WORDS ABOUT WHAT WE MEAN BY GOALS AND POLICIES AND ACTIONS. UM, AND, AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, A LOT OF QUESTIONS HAVE COME UP ABOUT THIS, THIS, AND SO THESE, THESE DEFINITIONS ARE IN LINE WITH STATE GUIDANCE. UM, AND SO GOALS ARE REALLY A DESCRIPTION OF, UH, AN ELEMENT OF THE COMMUNITY'S VISION FOR ITSELF 20 OR 30 YEARS INTO THE FUTURE. UM, IN THE CASE OF THE POLICY FRAMEWORKS, THEY'RE SPECIFIC TO THE TOPIC THAT IS THE FOCUS OF THE FRAMEWORK, IN THIS CASE, TRANSPORTATION. SO THEY'RE REALLY DESCRIBING FUTURE OUTCOMES. SO IN THAT, IN THAT SENSE, THEY'RE DESCRIBING A, A, A FUTURE STATE FOR THE CITY OF, OF PETALUMA. POLICIES IN TURN ARE DESIGNED TO PROVIDE THE CLEAR STATEMENT OF DIRECTION OR INTENT THAT, UM, IF, UM, FULFILLED WILL HELP TO ACHIEVE THE GOAL. UM, AND THOSE ARE DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY TO GUIDE DECISION MAKING, WHETHER IT'S ANNUAL PROGRAMMATIC PRIORITY DEVELOPMENT AT THE CITY COUNCIL OR DEPARTMENTAL LEVEL, OR THE OPERATING OR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS BUDGETS. THEY'RE DESIGNED TO GUIDE THOSE DEC THOSE, THOSE, THOSE DECISION MAKING PROCESSES. ACTIONS [00:10:01] IN TURN, ARE DESIGNED TO IMPLEMENT A POLICY, AND THEY TAKE A VARIETY OF FORMS. THEY CAN BE ONE-OFF ACTIVITIES. THEY CAN BE NEW PROCEDURES FOR THE CITY TO IMPLEMENT. THEY CAN BE LONGSTANDING PROGRAMS OR, UM, OR JUST PARTICULAR ONE-OFF PROJECTS. ONE THING I SHOULD NOTE HERE IS THAT, UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE EXPECTED TO SEE, UM, WHAT YOU MIGHT CALL OBJECTIVES, WHICH WOULD BE SPECIFIC, MEASURABLE TIME SPECIFIC, VERY ACTIONABLE GOALS. AND WE'RE NOT AT THAT STEP YET. WE DO IN THE GENERAL PLAN, EXPECT TO INCLUDE PERFORMANCE METRICS THAT IS SPECIFIC TARGETS FOR OUTCOMES ASSOCIATED WITH THE GOALS EXPRESSED IN THE GENERAL PLAN. UM, BUT WE WANTED TO WAIT TO DO THAT UNTIL WE FINISH THIS ROUND OF PUBLIC CONVERSATION TO MAKE SURE, FIRST, THAT WE'VE GOT THE GOALS RIGHT. ALSO SHOULD SAY THAT, UM, FOR THE, FOR THE FOR TYPICAL COMMUNITY MEMBER, MUCH OF THIS I KNOW SEEMS DRY. WE WILL NOT, WE, WE DID NOT TAKE A TON OF TIME TO, UM, REALLY EMBELLISH ON THE WAY IN WHICH THESE DIFFERENT FRAMEWORKS CONNECT TO EACH OTHER OR REALLY FRAME THEM AS PART OF A BROADER COMPELLING INTEGRATING VISION. UM, AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S A REFLECTION OF A LOT OF VERY TECHNICAL CONVERSATIONS, AND WE WANTED TO PRESENT THOSE CLEARLY TO GET FEEDBACK ON WHETHER WE'RE HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. MUCH OF THE, UH, SUPPORTING WORK AND, AND, AND COMPELLING INTEGRATED VISION WILL COME LATER IN THE INITIAL DRAFTS OF THE GENERAL PLAN . WE'D LIKE TO EMPHASIZE THAT, UH, THESE ARE A LONG, ARE A RESULT OF A LONG PROCESS INVOLVING LOTS OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE AT DIFFERENT POINTS IN TIME. GOING ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE BEGINNING OF THE PROJECT WITH THE EXISTING CONDITIONS ANALYSIS, WHICH WAS A PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE SUMMARY OF KEY CONDITIONS THAT SHOULD INFORM THE GENERAL PLAN. WE ALSO DID A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF COMMUNITY INPUT EARLY ON IN THE PROJECT THROUGH WORKSHOPS, POP-UPS SURVEYS, ET CETERA, TO MAKE SURE WE WERE VERY CLEAR ABOUT THE ISSUES, OPPORTUNITIES, AND COMPONENTS OF THE CITY'S VISION FOR ITSELF. THOSE WERE SUMMARIZED IN THE VISION PILLARS AND GUIDING PRINCIPLES DOCUMENT, WHICH WAS CRAFTED BY THE GENERAL PLAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND ACCEPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. THOSE ARE NOT SET IN STONE, BUT WE HAVE CONSIDERED THEM KIND OF AN ESTABLISHED FOUNDATION FOR MUCH OF THIS WORK. UM, SOME PEOPLE HAVE COMMENTED ON THEM IN THEIR REVIEW OF THE POLICY FRAMEWORKS. COMMENTS ARE CERTAINLY WELCOME, BUT WE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO FOCUS PRIMARILY AND ON THE GOALS AND POLICIES AND ACTIONS. WE MAY REVISE THE VISION PILLARS AND GUIDING PRINCIPLES AT LATER STAGES IN THE PROCESS, BUT IT'S NOT OUR CURRENT, UH, FOCUS AT THIS POINT. BEGINNING IN 2022, CITY STAFF MEMBERS OF THE GPAC MEMBERS OF THE CONSULTANT TEAM CAME TOGETHER AND CONSIDERED ALL THAT INFORMATION, LOOKED AT OTHER BEST PRACTICES, REVIEWED THE EXISTING GENERAL PLAN, AND BEGAN TO IDENTIFY, UM, STRATEGIES THAT NEEDED TO BE CLEARLY ARTICULATED IN THE GOALS AND POLICIES. BASED ON THOSE CONVERSATION ADMINISTRATIVE DRAFTS OF THE POLICY FRAMEWORKS WERE DEVELOPED. THOSE WENT UNDER EXTENSIVE CITY REVIEW. AND SO THE PUBLIC DRAFTS THAT YOU HAVE, UH, AVAILABLE FOR REVIEW NOW REALLY REFLECT, UM, ALL OF THAT WORK. AND IN THIS LATEST ITERATION, THEY REFLECT, UM, CITY STAFF'S DIRECTION ON, UM, HOW EACH OF THESE FRAMEWORKS SHOULD COME TOGETHER AT THIS POINT. EXCUSE ME. UM, THERE ARE, AGAIN, THIS IS A VERY COMPREHENSIVE UPDATE TO PETALUMA'S GENERAL PLANS. SO THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT TOPICS COVERED IN THE FRAMEWORKS. WE ALLOWED CITY STAFF AND MEMBERS OF THE CONSULTANT TEAM WHO HAVE PARTICULAR EXPERTISE TO KIND OF STAY IN THEIR LANE FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE FRAMEWORKS. UM, THAT BEING SAID, WE DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT THE GENERAL PLAN ITSELF WILL BE ORGANIZED THE SAME WAY. UM, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES OF THIS APPROACH, THIS INTERIM APPROACH, IS THAT YOU MAY NOT ALWAYS FIND ALL THE TOPICS THAT YOU EXPECT AND IN A PARTICULAR FRAMEWORK, BUT I SUSPECT THAT IT'S SOMEWHERE. UM, AND WE'D BE HAPPY TO HELP PEOPLE FIND TOPICS THAT THEY'RE, THEY MAY NOT BE SURE WHERE TO WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED. WE MADE SOME ATTEMPT AT THE FRONT END OF THE FRAMEWORKS TO PROVIDE SOME GUIDANCE ON, UM, HOW SOME HIGH PRIORITY, UH, COMMUNITY TOPICS ARE ADDRESSED IN DIFFERENT FRAMEWORKS. BUT, UM, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY NOT A COMPREHENSIVE LIST. UM, ONE FRAMEWORK I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION, WHICH IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM THE OTHERS, WHICH ARE VERY TOPICAL FOCUSED, IS THE GOVERNANCE AND IMPLEMENTATION [00:15:01] FRAMEWORK. UM, IT DOESN'T FOCUS ON A, A PARTICULAR, UM, ACTIVITY OR POLICY AREA OF THE CITY, BUT IT DOES ARTICULATE, UM, IN ITS FIRST GOAL AREA HOW THE GENERAL PLAN WILL BE IMPLEMENTED, SPEAKS TO, UM, THE ESTABLISHMENT OF ANNUAL GOALS BY THE CITY COUNCIL, THE BUDGETING PROCESS, UM, AND THEN HOW PERFORMANCE METRICS AND IMPLEMENTATION ACTION PLANS WILL, WILL BE USED TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, CITY DECISION MAKING AND PRIORITIZATION AND RESOURCE ALLOCATION IS BEING FOR INFORMED BY THE GENERAL PLAN. I'VE MENTIONED THIS A COUPLE TIMES. I JUST WANNA STRESS THAT THE GENERAL PLAN ITSELF, WHICH COMES AFTER THE, UM, THIS POLICY, UH, REVIEW PHASE AS WELL AS THE LAND USE ALTERNATIVES PHASE WILL BE VERY DIFFERENT. UM, IT WILL LEAD WITH A VERY COMPELLING PUBLIC FACING, INTEGRATED AND VERY STRATEGIC, UM, AND ACTION ORIENTED, UM, FRONT END THAT THAT REALLY IS VERY ACCESSIBLE FOR PEOPLE WILL LIKELY BE ORGANIZED VERY DIFFERENTLY. UM, I SUSPECT THE 14 TOPICS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN POLICY FRAMEWORKS WILL NOT BE, UH, REPRESENTED AS CHAPTERS. UM, IN THE SAME WAY IN THE GENERAL PLAN, WE KNOW THAT THERE'S THEMES THAT RUN ACROSS A LOT OF THE ELEMENTS, WHETHER IT'S EQUITY OR CLIMATE, UM, ACTION OR OTHERS THAT WE WILL WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT HOW THEY'RE REFLECTED IN THE GENERAL PLAN. SO IT'S EASY FOR PEOPLE TO FIND THOSE AND THE WAYS IN WHICH, UH, THE GENERAL PLAN PRIORITIZES AND IMPLEMENTS THOSE. AND THEN WE ALSO WANNA MAKE IT VERY USER-FRIENDLY FOR SOME OF THE PRIMARY USERS, UM, CITY DEPARTMENT HEADS, UH, CITY DEPARTMENT STAFF, ET CETERA. ONE WAY WE WILL, UH, ASSIST WITH THE ACCESSIBILITY FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC IS TO MAKE IT DIGITAL, WHICH ALLOWS YOU TO ACCESS IT FROM A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES. AND AS I'VE NOTED BEFORE, PLAN TO MAKE IT AS IMPLEMENTABLE AS POSSIBLE, UM, INCLUDING A, A VERY DETAILED AND ACTION ORIENTED MATRIX OF ACTIONS INCLUDED IN THE GP, GP AND ALSO MAKE SURE, UM, U PRIMARY USERS KNOW HOW TO, UM, GET AT THE INFORMATION THEY NEED VERY EASILY. AND AS I NOTED BEFORE, WE'LL ALSO TRACK PROGRESS SO THAT WE'RE CLEAR HOW WELL WE'RE DOING ON IMPLEMENTING THE GENERAL PLAN. UM, I BELIEVE IN WHEN THE FRAMEWORKS WERE RELEASED IN MARCH, YOU WERE PROVIDED, UM, A LITTLE ORIENTATION AND A REVIEW FORM. UM, WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE FOLKS TAKING THE TIME TO COMPLETE THE FORM. IT REALLY HAS TWO PARTS TO IT. THE FIRST IS BECAUSE WHEN, WHEN WE SHIFT OUT OF THIS PHASE AND AND INTO PLAN WRITING, IT'D BE VERY HELPFUL TO KNOW WHAT PEOPLE'S SENSE OF PRIORITIES ARE. I KNOW THERE'S A LOT IN THESE, BUT IF YOU CAN GO THROUGH THE DIFFICULT EXERCISE OF NARROWING IT, THAT, THAT DOWN TO TOP YOUR TOP FIVE OR FEWER POLICIES, THAT'D BE VERY HELPFUL FOR US AS WE SHIFT INTO THE NEXT PHASE. UM, PERHAPS, UM, UH, MORE IMPORTANTLY IS IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS ABOUT ANYTHING YOU SEE IN THE FRAMEWORKS, WE'D LOVE TO HEAR IT. UM, AND THE MORE SPECIFIC YOU CAN BE ABOUT, UM, SPECIFIC GOALS OR POLICIES THAT, UM, EITHER ARE CLEAR, UH, WE THINK NEED TO BE STRONGER OR WHATEVER YOUR FEEDBACK IS, UH, WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT, UM, ON THOSE FORMS TONIGHT. ALSO, OBVIOUSLY WE'LL BE TAKING NOTES ON ANY QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS YOU HAVE, BUT AS FOLLOW UP, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COMPLETE THE FORM, PLEASE DO. I THINK WE'VE WE'RE ASKING FOLKS TO RETURN THOSE TO THE GENERAL PLAN TEAM BY JUNE 7TH. THERE ARE LOTS OF OTHER OPPORTUNITIES BESIDES TONIGHT'S MEETING TO LEARN MORE ABOUT AND PROVIDE INPUT ON THE FRAMEWORKS. WE HAD A PRODUCTIVE MEETING WITH A, A JOINT, UH, MEETING OF THE BIKE AND PEN AND TRANSIT COMMITTEES LAST NIGHT. NEXT WEEK WE'RE MEETING WITH, UH, UM, HISTORICAL AND CULTURAL, UH, COMMISSION AND CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION, OUR SENIOR COMMISSION AS WELL. AND THEN LATER IN THE MONTH, UM, OTHER COMMISSIONS. AND THEN, UM, A BIG PLAN FOR US NEXT SATURDAY, WHICH WE'LL SAY A BIT ABOUT LATER. AND THEN BOTH PLANNING COMMISSION AND GPAC WILL BE CONSIDERING FRAMEWORKS OF THE CO OVER THE COURSE OF SEVERAL MEETINGS IN THE COMING MONTHS. LIKEWISE, UM, WE'VE TRIED TO MAKE THE FRAMEWORKS VERY A AVAILABLE ON THE PROJECT WEBSITE. THERE'S ALSO A FORM THAT'S A VERY SIMPLE FORM YOU CAN USE TO ALSO PROVIDE GOAL AND, AND POLICY SPECIFIC FEEDBACK BY FRAMEWORK, UM, IF YOU'D LIKE TO DO YOUR WORK ASYNCHRONOUSLY. UM, AND, UH, THERE'S ALSO ADDITIONAL INFORMA, LOTS OF OTHER ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THE PROJECT WEBSITE IF YOU WANNA INVESTIGATE THE EXISTING CONDITIONS REPORT, ET CETERA. IT'S ALL AVAILABLE ON THE WEBSITE. HERE'S A QR CODE FOR HOW TO ACCESS THE, THE, UH, FEEDBACK FORM. AND THEN AGAIN, A WEEK FROM [00:20:01] SATURDAY THE 11TH AT THE FAIRGROUNDS, THERE'S AN OPEN HOUSE WHERE BOTH CITY AND CONSULTANT FOLKS WHO WORK SPECIFICALLY ON EACH FRAMEWORK WILL BE AVAILABLE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT WHAT'S, TALK TO YOU ABOUT WHAT'S IN EACH FRAMEWORK, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. UM, WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO MAKE IT VERY FAMILY FRIENDLY EVENT. UM, THERE'LL BE FOOD, UH, KIDS ACTIVITIES, PRIZES, UM, IT SHOULD BE A LOT OF FUN. UM, IT'S AN OPEN HOUSE. THEY DON'T NEED TO CERTAINLY STAY FROM NINE TO TWO, BUT YOU'RE WELCOME TO, IF YOU LIKE, REALLY ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO COME BY WHEN IT'S MOST CONVENIENT FOR THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES. UM, EVEN IF YOU JUST HAVE A SHORT WINDOW OF TIME, ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME BY, GET A SENSE FOR WHAT'S IN ALL THE FRAMEWORKS. UM, PERHAPS IT'LL PIQUE YOUR INTEREST TO LOOK AT ONES OTHER THAN, UH, THOSE FOCUSED SPECIFICALLY ON TRANSPORTATION. AND AT THIS POINT, I AM GONNA TURN IT OVER TO KELLY FROM FAIR AND PEERS, WHO'LL GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF SOME OF THE KEY COMPONENTS OF THE TRANSPORTATION FRAMEWORK. HI, EVERYONE. OKAY, GOOD. MIKE'S ON. UH, MY NAME IS KELLY BOND. I AM A SENIOR PLANNER WITH FAR AND PEERS, AND I'M ALSO A PETALUMA RESIDENT HERE. I'VE BEEN IN THE CITY FOR ABOUT FIVE AND A HALF YEARS, AND IT'S HAPPENS TO BE MY FIRST AIRPORT COMMISSION MEETING. UM, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING US HERE TONIGHT, AND I'M EXCITED TO, UH, SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TRANSPORTATION FRAMEWORK. I FEEL LIKE THE WHOLE GENERAL PLAN IS VERY NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART AS A RESIDENT, SO I'M EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO WORK ON IT. YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. OKAY. SO JUST STARTING WITH SOME EXISTING CONDITIONS. UH, SO PETALUMA IS CURRENTLY BY ITS LAND USE, A VERY AUTO ORIENTED COMMUNITY. THINGS ARE A BIT MORE SPREAD OUT, UM, AND IN ORDER TO REACH OUR CLIMATE GOALS THAT THE CITY HAS, UH, SET, WE REALLY NEED TO FOCUS ON EXPANDING, BIKING, WALKING, TRANSIT, USE OTHER FORMS OF TRANSPORTATION. SO SOME, UH, QUICK STATISTICS ON WHERE, WHERE WE ARE, ABOUT 73% OF RESIDENTS DRIVE TO WORK ALONE. AND THERE'S A BIG OPPORTUNITY IN, UH, THE TYPE OF DRIVING THAT'S HAPPENING. SO ABOUT A THIRD OF TRIPS ARE ACTUALLY LESS THAN TWO MILES. SO THAT PRESENTS A REALLY BIG OPPORTUNITY, UM, WALKING, BUT ESPECIALLY BIKING TO BE ABLE TO GET PEOPLE TO POTENTIALLY SHIFT HOW THEY'RE COMMUTING OR MOVING AROUND. OKAY. AND THEN, UM, NEXT, JUST TALKING ABOUT SOME, SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO CONNECT THE EAST AND WEST SIDE OF THE CITY A BIT MORE AND NORTH SOUTH, BUT REALLY THINKING ABOUT THAT CROSSTOWN TRAVEL AND CURRENT CONDITIONS. AND IT MIGHT BE CHALLENGING FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE WANTING TO BIKE AND WALK THINKING ABOUT, UH, THE SAFETY OF DOING THAT. SO SOMETHING ELSE FOR US TO, TO TAKE A LOOK AT. AND THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE TRANSPORTATION FRAMEWORK. AND ALSO SOMETHING TO TO MENTION IS THE INFLUX OF WORKERS AND PEOPLE THAT LEAVE, UH, PETALUMA EACH DAY FOR WORK. SO WE KNOW THAT NOT EVERYONE THAT LIVES HERE IS WORKING HERE, UM, AND VICE VERSA. AND SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING TO NOTE, UM, PEOPLE THAT ARE MOVING QUITE A, A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE MOVING. AND LASTLY, UM, SOMETHING THAT I'VE, I TOUCHED ON A LITTLE BIT, BUT REALLY WANTING TO SHIFT PRIORITIES AT THE CITY LEVEL TO THINK LESS ABOUT AUTOMOBILE, UH, TRAFFIC AND, AND THROUGHPUT, BUT FOCUSING MORE ON SAFETY OF ALL ROADWAY USERS. SO TRYING TO HAVE THAT SHIFT. AND I THINK THAT'S HEAVILY REFLECTED IN THE TRANSPORTATION FRAMEWORK. GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. OKAY. SO JUST A COUPLE QUICK SLIDES ON, UH, TRANSIT AND, UM, BIKE PED INFRASTRUCTURE TO ORIENT YOU ALL TO THAT. AND THEN WE'LL DIVE INTO SOME MORE AIRPORT SPECIFIC INFORMATION. SO THIS IS JUST A MAP THAT SHOWS THE CURRENT TRANSIT NETWORK AND THE TRANSIT PROVIDERS IN PETALUMA. SO YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT PROVIDERS, INCLUDING SMART, UH, PETALUMA TRANSIT, SONOMA COUNTY TRANSIT, GOLDEN GATE TRANSIT, AND PARATRANSIT SERVICES THAT ALL OPERATE WITHIN THE CITY THAT MOVE PEOPLE WITHIN THE CITY AND ALSO, UM, IN AND OUT OF THE CITY. AND SO WE CAN LOOK AT THAT AND, AND TRY TO IDENTIFY POTENTIALLY SOME GAPS IN, IN SERVICE AS WELL. AND OF COURSE, WE KNOW THAT THE, THE CENTER OF TOWN DOWNTOWN IS VERY WALKABLE. UM, I'M SURE YOU ALL ENJOY DOWNTOWN, JUST LIKE, JUST LIKE I DO. YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. OKAY. SO THIS IS SHOWING THE EXISTING, UH, BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN NETWORK, AS WELL AS SOME PROPOSED, UM, EXPANSION. YOU'LL SEE THE DOTTED, UH, LINES ARE PROPOSED IF YOU CAN, UM, SEE THAT CLOSELY. BUT THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT, UM, OPPORTUNITIES, WHETHER IT'S EXISTING OR PLANNED. UH, YOU CAN SEE WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE TO HAVE ALL OF THOSE GREAT CONNECTIONS, UH, FOR PEOPLE TO BIKE AND WALK AROUND TOWN. UH, [00:25:01] I WON'T GO TOO DEEP IN THE WEEDS HERE, UM, BUT YOU CAN NOTE THAT THE, THE DIFFERENT COLORS REPRESENT DIFFERENT TYPES OF FACILITIES FOR, UM, FOR BIKING OR TRAILS. AND AS I PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, JUST THINKING ABOUT SOME BARRIERS THAT EXIST IN THE CITY, SOME DIVIDING LINES LIKE THE PETALUMA RIVER, THE 1 0 1, UM, AND THE SMART TRACKS. AND SO THINGS THAT WE'LL NEED TO THINK ABOUT AS WE'RE BUILDING, UM, FACILITIES OUT FOR ALL ROAD USERS. GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. OKAY. SO I'M GONNA GUESS THAT MOST OF WHAT'S ON THE SLIDE IS NOT NEW TO YOU ALL SINCE YOU ARE THE AIRPORT COMMISSIONERS, BUT I WANTED TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF, OF GROUND SETTING HERE. UM, SO CURRENT CONDITIONS WITH THE AIRPORT, WE'RE SEEING ABOUT, UH, 400, SORRY, 145 SLIDES PER DAY, OR ABOUT 60,000 A YEAR. AND OF THOSE 145 PER DAY ABOUT, UH, BETWEEN ONE AND TWO ARE RELATED TO FREIGHT. IT'S JUST SOMETHING TO NOTE. AND SO WE KNOW THAT THE AIRPORT OFFERS A GOOD ACCESS POINT FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE, UH, TRAVELING AS A TOURIST OR POTENTIALLY SOME CORPORATE TRAVEL, UH, TO THE NORTH BAY, HOME TO 200 LOCALLY BASED AIRCRAFT, AS WELL AS A PILOT TRAINING CENTER. UM, AND, UH, MAINTENANCE OPERATION ALSO SERVES AS A BASE FOR FIREFIGHTING EFFORTS IN THE COMMUNITY, WHICH IS OF COURSE SO IMPORTANT IN THIS COUNTY. UM, ALSO TO NOTE THAT THE RUNWAY IS NOT EXPANDABLE. SO SOMETHING THAT WILL COME INTO PLAY AS WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME ACTIONS. GO AHEAD. UM, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? OUR, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU GUYS, BUT MY NUMBER 20 DOESN'T MATCH THE INFORMATION'S IN TEXT ON PAGE FOUR. IT'S, WE DON'T HAVE THE SLIDE. YOU'RE CORRECT. I'M SORRY, SAY THAT AGAIN. THE INFORMATION IS IN A PARAGRAPH ON PAGE FOUR. ON PAGE FOUR. THE SLIDES WERE UPDATED, THE SLIDES UPDATED AN HOUR OR SO AGO. SO THERE, THERE, I THINK THERE MIGHT BE, THERE WERE THINGS ADDED. SO MAYBE YOU HAVE AN OTHER VERSION. OKAY. IT'S FOLLOWING ALONG. OKAY. WE WERE TRYING TO ADD A LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC, UM, AIRPORT DATA TO, TO THE PRESENTATION TO, I WAS JUST WONDERING WHY MY PAGE 20 AND THIS ONE DIDN'T MATCH, THAT'S WHY. OKAY. YEAH. NOW I KNOW PAGE THREE AND FOUR OF THE TEXT HAS SAME BULLET POINTS. YEAH, THANKS. SORRY ABOUT THAT. YEAH, THANK YOU FOR ASKING AND CLARIFYING THAT. UM, AND SO THEN IN, IN THE FREIGHT SPACE, UM, THE AIRPORT ACTS AS A HUB FOR FEDEX AS SOME FREIGHT HAULING. THERE'S CURRENTLY ONE WAY DISTRIBUTION TO OAKLAND FOR FREIGHT. AND TO ALSO NOTE THAT, UM, WHILE THERE MIGHT BE LARGER AIRCRAFT THAT COMES TO THE AIRPORT AND MORE FREQUENCY WITHIN THE DECADE, LIKELY WOULD NOT, UM, THE LEVEL OF GROWTH WOULD NOT LIKELY WARRANT, UM, MORE WAREHOUSES CLOSER TO THE AIRPORT, UM, ON TOP OF WHAT ALREADY EXISTS NEAR LAKEVILLE HIGHWAY. AND THEN RELATED TO NOISE AIRPORT DOES NOT SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT OVERALL NOISE LEVELS IN THE COMMUNITY. SO THAT IS THE END OF OUR CURRENT CONDITIONS. WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE, AND I'LL TOUCH ON THIS VERY BRIEFLY. RON, UM, DID A, A GOOD OVERVIEW OF HOW THESE ALL INTERRELATE. UM, THIS IS JUST A LITTLE FOUNDATIONAL SETTING, UM, THAT IS IN THE LONG, UH, TRANSPORTATION FRAMEWORK. SO YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE ARE VISIONS IN THERE, THERE ARE PILLARS IN THERE, AND THE, THESE COME FROM THE GPAC AND THEY WERE ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL AND WE PULLED THEM IN. SO THE VISION, OBVIOUSLY, I THINK THAT'S EVIDENT IN THE WORD VISION, BUT HOW WE WANT TO SEE THE, THE COMMUNITY, WHAT WE VALUE. UH, SO THE THREE THAT ARE OUTLINED HERE, WE'RE PROSPEROUS. WE RELISH OUR SPIRITED, DISTINCTIVE NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE WE LIVE, WORK, AND PLAY, AND WE'RE FORWARD THINKING LEADERS. AND THEN THE PILLARS, THERE ARE A COUPLE LISTED OUT HERE AROUND CLIMATE AND SUSTAINABILITY, AND THEN EQUITY, JUSTICE, AND DEMOGRAPHIC CHANGES. GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. GREAT. AND THEN YOU'LL NOTICE THESE NUMBERS ARE NOT ALL IN A ROW. SO WE PULLED OUT GUIDING PRINCIPLES THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO TRANSPORTATION HERE. UM, SO THERE ARE A, A FEW, I WON'T READ THESE ALL OUT, UM, BUT AGAIN, A LOT OF CONNECTIONS WITH CARBON NEUTRALITY BY 2030 AS A CITY GOAL. SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC JUSTICE BEING VERY IMPORTANT, CONNECTING THE EAST AND WEST SIDES OF OF TOWN. UM, CREATING A COMMUNITY THAT'S AGE FRIENDLY AND FAMILY FRIENDLY AND ACCESSIBLE AND AFFORDABLE. PRESERVING HISTORIC DOWNTOWN AND PRIORITIZING ALTERNATIVE MODES OF TRANSPORTATION OVER THE AUTOMOBILE. LOOKING AT WAYS TO DO MORE INFILL DEVELOPMENT, UM, AND SUPPORTING THAT INFRASTRUCTURE AND BEING A LEADER IN OUR LARGER BAY AREA. YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. OKAY. SO THERE ARE A TOTAL OF [00:30:01] SIX TRANSPORTATION GOALS. TONIGHT WE'RE GONNA FOCUS ON, UM, ONE IN PARTICULAR, AND THEN WITHIN THAT, ANOTHER SUB, UH, POLICY AREA. SO WE'LL FOCUS SPECIFICALLY ON REALLY THE TWO ACTIONS THAT ARE RELATED TO THE AIRPORT. UM, BUT I DID WANNA MAKE SURE YOU WERE ALL AWARE OF THE SIX TRANSPORTATION GOALS. SO THE FIRST GOAL IS AROUND REIMAGINING THE TRANSPORTATION NETWORK. UM, I SHOWED YOU THE ENVISIONED, UM, BIKE PED NETWORK. SO THINKING ABOUT HOW CAN WE REIMAGINE THAT TRANSIT NETWORK AS WELL? HOW CAN WE EXPAND UPON TRANSIT TO CONNECT MORE PEOPLE? UH, GOAL NUMBER TWO IS AROUND THE CLIMATE EMERGENCY RESOLUTION. AND OF COURSE, WE HAVE OUR BLUEPRINT BEING DEVELOPED THAT SPEAKS TO THAT GOAL. THREE, LOOKING AT EQUITABLE ACCESS FOR ALL. SO MAKING SURE THAT WHEREVER YOU LIVE IN THE, IN THE CITY, YOU CAN HAVE ACCESS, WHETHER THAT'S WALKING, BIKING, TRANSIT, DRIVING A CAR TO WHEREVER YOU NEED TO GO. GOAL NUMBER FOUR, MAKING SURE THAT THAT MOBILITY IS SAFE, THAT YOU CAN GET THERE SAFELY AND THAT IT'S HEALTHY. GOAL NUMBER FIVE IS THE INTERSECT BETWEEN LAND USE AND TRANSPORTATION PLANNING. SO HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT OUR POLICIES AROUND LAND USE ALIGN WELL TO GET US TO THE TRANSPORTATION THAT WE WANNA SEE? AND VICE VERSA. GOAL NUMBER SIX IS DOING ALL OF THAT IN AN EFFICIENT AND TIMELY WAY, SO WE CAN IMPLEMENT IT IN THE TIME WE'D LIKE TO SEE. GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. OKAY, SO NOW WE'LL DIG INTO THE, UH, AIRPORT FOCUSED GOALS, POLICIES AND ACTIONS. SO THE GOAL THAT WE'LL FOCUS ON IS GOAL NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS INTEGRATED LAND USE AND TRANSPORTATION PLANNING. AND WITHIN THAT, THERE'S ONE POLICY IN PARTICULAR THAT SPEAKS TO THE AIRPORT, AND THAT IS ABOUT SUPPORTING LOCAL FREIGHT SYSTEMS. AND SO UNDER THAT, WE HAVE TWO ACTIONS. UM, AND I'LL, I'LL SHARE THIS AND THEN WE'LL HAVE ONE MORE SLIDE, AND I THINK WE'LL COME BACK TO HEAR, UH, QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS FROM YOU ALL. SO I'LL JUST REVIEW WHAT THE ACTIONS ARE, UM, THOUGH IF YOU HAVE A BURNING QUESTION, I'M, I'M SURE THAT'S OKAY TO ASK. SO ACTION 5.52. SO THAT FIRST ONE ON THERE IS DEVELOPING FACILITIES AND ACCESSORY TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS THAT WILL SERVE THE AIRPORT AND INDUSTRIAL ZONE TO FACILITATE ITS ROLE AS A, AS A FREIGHT DISTRIBUTION CENTER FOR THE CITY. AND THEN THE OTHER ACTION IS TO INTEGRATE THE AIRPORT AND INDUSTRIAL USES INTO A, A LOW CARBON TRAVEL NETWORK WHILE SUPPORTING ITS CONTINUED OPERATION AS A, AN ASSET FOR TRANSPORTATION AND COMMERCIAL RECREATIONAL, UM, IN THE COMMUNITY. GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. AND THEN THIS IS OUTSIDE OF THE TRANSPORTATION FRAMEWORK. SO THIS IS WITHIN THE PUBLIC FACILITIES FRAMEWORK, BUT WE KNOW THAT YOU ALL WERE INTERESTED ARE INTERESTED IN DEVELOPING A MASTER PLAN FOR THE AIRPORT. SO WE DID PULL THIS INTO OUR PRESENTATION TONIGHT TO GIVE YOU ALL AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE ANY, ANY FEEDBACK ON THIS AS WELL. UM, SO AGAIN, THIS IS IN THE PUBLIC FACILITIES FRAMEWORK. THE GOAL IS HIGH QUALITY PUBLIC FACILITIES. THERE'S A POL ONE POLICY WITH UNDERNEATH THAT IN PARTICULAR THAT'S RELEVANT. UM, SUPPORTING REVENUE GENERATING OPERATIONS OF THE AIRPORT BY UPGRADING AND EXPANDING TO MEET THE NEEDS. AND THEN UNDER THAT ONE ACTION IN PARTICULAR IS TO IMPLEMENT THE MASTER PLAN AND UPDATE THE PLAN AS NECESSARY. AND THOSE ARE THE MOST RELEVANT ITEMS OF THE TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC FACILITIES FRAMEWORKS THAT WE WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL. AND I WILL PASS IT TO, I THINK, ARE WE GONNA GO TO THE CHAIR NOW FOR COMMENTS OR RON BACK TO YOU? UH, JUST REALLY BRIEFLY. UM, THANK YOU KELLY. UM, YEAH, WE CERTAINLY WELCOME QUESTIONS, UM, UH, MEMBERS HAVE, AND THEN, UM, ALSO WOULD LOVE TO HEAR YOUR FEEDBACK. AND ON THIS SCREEN ARE THE, UM, TWO, SAME TWO QUESTIONS YOU SEE ON THE FORM. AND THEN, UM, JUST MORE GENERALLY, JUST REALLY THROUGH THE LENS OF THE AIRPORT COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, DOES THE, DO THE POLICY FRAMEWORKS, TRANSPORTATION FACILITIES OR OTHERWISE, UM, ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF THE PETALUMA AIRPORT FROM A POLICY PERSPECTIVE FOR THE NEXT 20 TO 30 YEARS? SO, UM, AGAIN, YOU GUYS HAVE A UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE GIVEN YOUR FOCUS ON THE AIRPORT, SO WE'D LOVE TO HEAR ANY AND ALL FEEDBACK, UM, AND MAKE SURE, WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHAT YOU UNDERSTAND IT BE THE PRIORITIES FOR THE AIRPORT ARE CLEARLY REFLECTED IN THE GENERAL PLAN. BUT, UM, YES, UH, CHAIR, WE'LL TURN IT BACK TO YOU, UM, TO FACILITATE Q AND A AND DISCUSSION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION. SO AT THIS POINT, I, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE COMMISSIONERS OR COUNCILWOMAN IF SHE CERTAINLY DON'T WANNA EXCLUDE HER [00:35:01] FOR ANY QUESTIONS. SO, UH, PLEASE DO ANY OF THE TO, YES, I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. THANK YOU FOR THE DETAIL ON THIS. UM, I KNOW DOING A GENERAL PLAN IS LIKE A CAREER , UM, IN ITSELF. UM, JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS, AND I DIDN'T SEE THEM HERE, BUT AGAIN, THIS IS HIGH LEVEL STUFF, BUT JUST TO KEEP IN MIND WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT, UM, THE AIRPORT. UM, WHILE THE CITY OPERATES THE AIRPORT, WE DON'T TECHNICALLY OWN THE AIRPORT. THE AIRPORT IS OWNED BY THE FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION AND THEY HAVE ASSIGNED PETALUMA TO OPERATE THE AIRPORT. AND WITHIN THAT, THERE ARE A MYRIAD OF CONSTRAINTS AND REQUIREMENTS. AND ONE OF THEM, WHICH IS ARTICULATED HERE, IS THAT TO ALL REASONABLE EXTENT POSSIBLE, THE AIRPORT IS, UH, ECONOMICALLY VIABLE AND SELF-SUPPORTING. AND SINCE ITS INCEPTION, THANK GOODNESS, PETALUMA MUNICIPAL HAS BEEN, AND IT CONTINUES TO GROW, BUT IN A VERY MEASURED WAY. UM, AND IT ADDS SIGNIFICANT ECONOMIC BENEFIT TO THE CITY IN TERMS OF JOBS PROVIDED AND THE ECONOMIC, UH, IMPACT OF PEOPLE WHO, UH, DO BUSINESS AT THE AIRPORT OR WHO FLY IN. AND WE HAVE QUITE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO FLY IN, AND WE USED TO HAVE TRANSIT SERVICE OUT TO THE AIRPORT, BUT WITH UBER, NOW, YOU PROBABLY DON'T NEED THAT. UH, SO THAT'S FINE. WE'VE TRIED TO PUT RENTAL CAR, UM, AVAILABILITY OUT THERE, AND THAT'S, UM, IT, IT'S POSSIBLE, BUT NOT UNIQUELY EASY FOR RENTAL CAR AGENCIES SINCE UBER IS SO AVAILABLE. BUT WHEN PEOPLE COME IN, UM, TO THE CITY TO DO BUSINESS OR AS TOURISTS, WHETHER THEY FLY THEMSELVES OR IF THEY'RE ON A CHARTER, UM, THEY CAN HAVE A FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY'S ECONOMIC, UH, IMPACT IN TERMS OF JOBS AND REVENUE GENERATED AND TAXES AND ALL OF THAT. UH, THE OTHER THING THAT'S REALLY CRITICAL, AND AGAIN, I DIDN'T SEE IT IN HERE, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE YOU'RE ALL AWARE OF THIS, IS ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS THE FAA HAS IS THAT WHOEVER IS OPERATING THE AIRPORT, UH, ENSURE THAT LAND USE OF LAND AROUND THE AIRPORT PROMOTES THE SUSTAINABILITY OF THE AIRPORT AND PROTECTS THE, NOT ONLY THE AIRPORT OPERATIONS, BUT THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE. SO, UH, ONE OF THE SUPPORTING ELEMENTS OF THAT IS THE SONOMA COUNTY AIRPORT LAND USE COMMISSION. AND THEY HAVE SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS ON WHAT CAN BE DONE IN TERMS OF DEVELOPMENT ON OR NEAR AN AIRPORT. AND THAT'S WHY THE AIRPORT WAS LOCATED ON THE FAR SIDE OF TOWN. THAT'S WHY THE OPEN AREAS ON EITHER END OF THE EXTENDED RUNWAY CENTER LINE ARE BASICALLY OPEN EITHER GOLF COURSE PLAY FIELD, OR, YOU KNOW, GRASSLAND WITH AN OCCASIONAL POND. UM, AND THEN FARMLAND WITH A MAXIMUM, I BELIEVE, OF ONE STRUCTURE PER THREE ACRES. AND THAT WAS DICTATED BY THE AIRPORT LAND USE COMMISSION, SONOMA COUNTY. AND AGAIN, THAT'S DONE TO PROTECT CIVILIANS, UH, AS WELL AS PILOTS. SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND IS, UH, THOSE LAND USE REGULATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS ARE SPECIFIC AND THERE TO NOT JUST PROTECT THE AIRPORT, BUT ALSO TO PROTECT THE CITIZENS, UM, OF EVERYONE, UM, IN PETALUMA. SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND. UM, THE OTHER THING IS THAT, UM, JUST AS A FOOTNOTE, BACK IN 2007, I KNOW THIS IS HISTORY NOW, BUT IT WASN'T AT THE TIME. UM, WE HAD, UM, AS A, I GUESS A BENEFIT TO THE AIRPORT, THE NATIONAL ORGANIZATION, WELL, IT'S INTERNATIONAL, BUT PRIMARILY US ORGANIZATION, AIRCRAFT OWNERS AND PILOTS ASSOCIATION. UM, EVERY YEAR FOR ANYONE WHO RENEWS MEMBERSHIP IN THAT ORGANIZATION OF PILOTS OR JOINS, IS AUTOMATICALLY ENTERED INTO AN AIRCRAFT SWEEPSTAKES. AND IN 2007, THERE WAS AN AIRCRAFT THAT WAS OBTAINED BY A OPA REFURBISHED, RESTORED, PAINTED, NEW INTERIOR, NEW ENGINE. AND IT TURNED OUT THAT THE PERSON THAT THIS AIRCRAFT WAS AWARDED TO WAS A PETALUMA RESIDENT. AND HE WAS WORKING OUT AT TWO ROCK COAST GUARD BASE. HE WAS A COMMANDER, HE WAS A SEARCH AND RESCUE PILOT, AND HE WAS ABOUT TO RETIRE FROM THE COAST GUARD, AND HE WAS LOOKING FOR AN AIRPLANE TO BUY FOR HIS FAMILY SO THEY COULD GO PLACES. WELL, GUESS WHAT? HE WON THE AIRPLANE AND WE WERE ABLE TO PRESENT THAT AIRPLANE TO HIM. THE CITY COUNCIL WAS THERE, AND A BUNCH OF AIRPORT [00:40:01] RESIDENTS AND TENANTS WERE THERE, AND WE GAVE HIM THE AIRPLANE AND HE WAS ABSOLUTELY STUNNED. HE COULDN'T BELIEVE IT. WELL, THE PRESIDENT OF THE ORGANIZATION AT THAT TIME, HIS NAME WAS PHIL BOYER, UM, HE FLEW IN, UM, THE AIR, A OPA AIRPLANE WITH HIS WIFE AND A CAMERA CREW TO THE AIRPORT OUT HERE. AND I MET HIM OUT HERE WHEN THEY LANDED AND HELPED HIM TIE DOWN. AND I'LL NEVER FORGET THIS GUY'S, PHIL WAS FROM SACRAMENTO, SO HE KNEW THE GENERAL AREA, BUT I'LL NEVER FORGET, HE CAME OUT OF THE AIRPLANE, STOOD ON THE RAMP, IT'S NOT TARMAC, IT'S THE RAMP. AND HE LOOKED AROUND WITH HIS HANDS ON HIS HIPS AND HE SAYS, MY LORD, I SAID, WHAT? PHIL SAID, THIS AIRPORT IS PERFECT. WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, ? AND HE SAYS, NO, PETALUMA AIRPORT, YOU'VE GOT SUPPORT FROM THE CITY. YOU'VE GOT A GREAT ACTIVE PILOT ORGANIZATION, PILOT CLUB. THE AIRPORT IS BUSY, IT'S ACTIVE, IT'S A GREAT COMMUNITY RELATIONSHIP, AND YOU'RE FINANCIALLY SELF-SUPPORTING WITH LITTLE SURPLUS REVENUE EVERY YEAR. THIS IS THE AIRPORT OTHERS IN THIS COUNTRY SHOULD ASPIRE TO BECOME. THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO KEEP GOING. WELL, IN JUST TWO YEARS AGO, ANOTHER PETALUMA PILOT WON THE SWEEPSTAKES AIRPLANE FOR THAT YEAR. SO OUT OF THE 25 YEARS THAT A OPA HAS BEEN REFURBISHING AND GIVING AWAY AN AIRPLANE, TWO PETALUMA PILOTS HAVE BEEN AWARDED THAT AIRPLANE. WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE SELECTION, BUT THAT'S PRETTY GOOD. SO ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO SET THAT AS SORT OF A BACKGROUND FOR YOU WHEN YOU GUYS, UH, PUT YOUR PLANS TOGETHER IN TERMS OF WHAT PRESSURES OR WHAT ISSUES YOU MIGHT GET FROM THE, FROM THE PUBLIC. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS, UH, I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT, UM, IF YOU GO ONLINE AND LOOK UP, UM, SONOMA AIRPORT LAND USE COMMISSION, YOU CAN FIND ALL THE ZONING THERE. UM, IT'S ALL AVAILABLE QUESTIONS. I I HAVE A FEW, A FEW NOTES. UM, NOTHING QUITE AS INVOLVED AS TOM, BUT, UH, . UM, ALSO THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER AND FOR GIVING US AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO COMMENT AND DISCUSS. UM, I DID WANT TO, UH, NOTE THAT, AND I, I APPRECIATE YOU INCLUDING THE FIREFIGHTING EFFORTS AND, AND SOME OF THE PUBLIC GOOD USAGE FOR THE AIRPORT. UM, I'D LIKE TO ADD THE MEDICAL FIRST RESPONSE. UH, THERE ARE LIFE FLIGHT HELICOPTERS THAT ROUTINELY, UH, USE OUR AIRPORT. AND, UM, RELATED TO, UH, ONE OF THE AREAS THAT I'D LIKE TO INCLUDE IN, IN THE CONVERSATION GOING FORWARD, THERE'S SOME NEW TECHNOLOGY BEING DEVELOPED THAT WILL EXPAND THE POSSIBILITY FOR EVEN ADDITIONAL, UH, AVIATION APPLICATION FOR FIRST RESPONSE. UM, SO I THINK THERE IS A, A, A LARGE PUBLIC GOOD, UH, OPPORTUNITY WITH, WITH KEEPING THE AIRPORT, UH, ENGAGED IN THAT, IN THAT USE CASE. UM, I DID, ONE THING THAT SEEMS TO BE SORT OF MISSING FROM, FROM THE THOUGHTS AROUND THE FUTURE OF THE AIRPORT, GIVEN THAT WE'RE TALKING FOR A COUPLE OF DECADES HERE, IS, UH, A LOT OF, THERE'S A LOT OF EMERGING TECHNOLOGY IN THE AVIATION INDUSTRY RIGHT NOW THAT ADVANCED AIR MOBILITY IS, IS THE TERM OF ART THAT GETS USED. UM, BASICALLY IT'S ELECTRIC AND INCREASINGLY AUTONOMOUS AIRCRAFT, AND THERE'S SIGNIFICANT SAFETY BENEFITS. THERE'S SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFITS, THERE'S SIGNIFICANT ECONOMIC BENEFITS, UM, BASICALLY MAKING, UH, PERSONAL AVIATION SAFER, MORE ACCESSIBLE, AND MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY FOR MORE PEOPLE. UM, ONE OF THE MAIN USE CASES FOR THAT IS FIRST RESPONDER INSERTION AND PUBLIC GOOD IN THAT WAY. UM, THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR, UM, URBAN AIR TAXI IS THE TERM THAT GETS USED, UM, SORT OF SMALLER DISTANCE COMMUTING TRAVEL, UM, USING ELECTRIC AIRCRAFT, UM, SOME OF WHICH ARE VERTICAL TAKEOFF AND LANDING SO THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO, TO DEPART AND TAKE OFF AT PET AIRPORT CERTAINLY, BUT ALSO HAVE A MUCH GREATER NETWORK OF, UH, POTENTIAL DESTINATIONS FROM THAT AIRPORT. UM, SO IF THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH, I WOULD STRONGLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO, TO LOOK INTO THAT. UH, IT IS A HUGE OPPORTUNITY. PEDAL IS VERY WELL PO POSITIONED TO BE A KEY, UM, NODE IN, IN THAT EMERGING NETWORK AS THE TECHNOLOGY COMES ONLINE TO BE READY TO SUPPORT THAT. WE NEED TO BE CONSIDERING, UM, THE ENERGY OPPOR OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE WITH THE AIRPORT. SO WE NEED TO BE, UH, ENSURING THAT THERE IS ELECTRIFICATION AVAILABLE, THAT THERE'S AIRCRAFT CHARGING, NOT JUST GROUND VEHICLE CHARGING. UM, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONNECT THAT TO MICROGRID ENERGY RESILIENCY FOR THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES. UM, SO THERE'S A LOT OF POTENTIAL ENERGY UPGRADES THAT COULD BE DONE THAT WOULD BENEFIT SORT OF GROUND VEHICLE IMMEDIATELY, UM, [00:45:02] EXISTING CONVENTIONAL FIXED WING AIRCRAFT ELECTRIFICATION IMMEDIATELY AS WELL. AND THAT WOULD POSITION US TO BE, UM, AN EARLY, AN EARLY KEY, UH, NODE IN THIS NETWORK FOR THE URBAN AIR MOBILITY, UM, AIRCRAFT THAT ARE, THAT ARE BEING DEVELOPED NOW AND GOING THROUGH FAA CERTIFICATION NOW. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS WELL WITHIN THE TIME HORIZON OF THE REPORT. UM, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO NOTE WITH THAT, THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, YOUR, YOUR GOAL AROUND CARBON NEUTRALITY, UM, OBVIOUSLY ELECTRIFICATION OF AIR AIRCRAFT SUPPORTS THAT, UM, WITH THE HUGE ASTERISKS THAT ANYTHING THAT'S ELECTRIC IS ONLY AS GREEN AS OUR GRID. I'M SURE YOU'RE WELL AWARE OF THAT. UM, BUT FOR CONVENTIONAL AIRCRAFT, FOR THE AIRCRAFT THAT ARE FLYING TODAY THAT ARE PROVIDING ALL OF THESE BENEFITS THAT YOU'VE LISTED TODAY, UM, SAFETY HAS TO BE MORE IMPORTANT FOR THE, THOSE AIRCRAFT TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THE BENEFIT THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING TO OUR COMMUNITIES. THERE ARE, UH, MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY AVIATION FUELS THAT ARE BEING DEVELOPED. THERE'S THIS WHOLE INDUSTRY WORKING TO ELECTRIFY MORE AND MORE AIRCRAFT. AIRCRAFT HAVE A VERY LONG LIFECYCLE. SO WE'RE STILL FLYING AIRCRAFT REGULARLY THAT ARE DECADES OLD. UM, TRYING TO FORCE THOSE AIRCRAFT TO MAKE A CHANGE IN FUEL PREMATURELY, UM, COULD KILL PEOPLE. I'M NOT GONNA SUGARCOAT THAT. SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT ANY ENVIRONMENTAL INITIATIVE IS BEING DONE AS ADDITIVE ON TOP OF AVIATION SAFETY AND THE SAFEGUARDS THAT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE TO PROTECT THAT. SO IT'S TEMPTING TO GET VERY EXCITED ABOUT SOME OF THESE NEW FUELS AND OTHER THINGS THAT ARE COMING ONLINE, BUT PROCEED WITH CAUTION. UM, THE, THE SAFETY OF, OF THOSE AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS AND THE PEOPLE ON BOARD HAVE TO COME FIRST, UM, UNRELATED TO ALL OF THAT, BUT RELATED TO THE GEOGRAPHIC POSITION OF THE AIRPORT IN OUR COMMUNITY, UM, AND YOUR DESIRE TO HAVE INCREASED WALKABILITY AND BIKEABILITY, UM, IT WOULD BE REALLY FANTASTIC IF WE COULD CONNECT THE CROSS CREEK DEVELOPMENT TO OLD ADOBE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WITH SOME SORT OF PATHWAY THAT DOESN'T INVOLVE GOING ON OLD ADOBE ROAD OR CASA GRANDE. SO THAT'S JUST GEOGRAPHICALLY THE AIRPORT IS KIND OF BETWEEN THOSE PLACES. UM, AND I KNOW THERE'S A HUGE INTEREST IN THE COMMUNITY, IN THE COMMUNITY AND THE FAMILIES THAT ATTEND THAT SCHOOL TO HAVE A WALKABLE AND BIKEABLE OPTION. AND I KNOW THE SCHOOL IS TECHNICALLY JUST OUTSIDE OF CITY LIMITS, BUT A BIG PORTION OF THAT PATH WOULD PRESUMABLY GO THROUGH THIS PART OF THE TOWN, I THINK. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I HAVE FOR NOTES. UM, AND, AND IF YOU'D LIKE SOME MORE POINTERS ON THE ADVANCED AIR MOBILITY PIECE, UM, I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE THAT OFFLINE AND, AND CONNECT ON THAT FURTHER. THANK YOU. OTHER COMMISSIONER COMMENTS? I'VE GOT 1, 1, 1 QUICK ONE I, I FORGOT TO MENTION EARLIER, UM, I NOTICED ON ONE OF THE SLIDES THAT THE, UM, AIRPORT MASTER PLAN, UH, WAS ONE OF THE OBJECTIVES. UM, AND I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'RE AWARE, YOU, YOU MAY WELL BE, UH, THE AIRPORT DOES HAVE A MASTER PLAN AND WE HAVE UPDATED IT OVER THE YEARS, UH, A COUPLE OF TIMES. THE LAST TIME WAS I, A COUPLE OF THREE, FOUR YEARS AGO PERHAPS. UM, THE ORIGINAL MASTER PLAN WAS BASED ON THE AIRPORT AT FULL BUILD OUT, FULL CAPACITY, AND WE'RE NOWHERE NEAR THAT RIGHT NOW. SO ANY UPDATE TO THE MASTER PLAN WOULD OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO COME THROUGH US AND OBVIOUSLY WITH A LOT OF INPUT FROM MANAGER DAN, UM, AND WITH SOME OF OUR TENANTS UNDOUBTEDLY 'CAUSE IT COULD AFFECT THEM. SO JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE INTEGRATED AND AGAIN, THERE ARE A LOT OF FAA AND STATE AVIATION RULES THAT GET INVOLVED IN THAT. YEAH, I'M, I MAY HAVE MISSPOKE ON CREATING ONE VERSUS UPDATING, UM, ONE THAT ONE THAT YOU HAVE SINCE I'VE BEEN MORE FOCUSED ON THE TRANSPORTATION FRAMEWORK VERSUS THE THE PUBLIC FACILITIES ONE. SO YEAH, I APOLOGIZE IF I MISSPOKE. I I'VE GOT A, OH, SORRY, CALL AHEAD. CALL AHEAD. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY ABOUT THE AIRPORT. I AM CONCERNED YOU EVEN PROMOTE TRYING TO PROMOTE CROSSTOWN CONNECTIONS AND YET THE RAINIER SITUATION HAS NOT EVEN BEEN, OR AT LEAST IT WASN'T MONDAY WHEN I WAS HERE, DISCUSSED OR EVEN TALKED ABOUT OR CONSIDERED. AND THAT CROSSTOWN CONNECTION COULD BE A, A GREAT CONNECTION FOR BUS, FOR PEDESTRIANS, BICYCLES, WALKING, WHATEVER. AND I KEEP GETTING TOLD IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN. , THE CITY HAS SPENT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TRYING TO GET IT TO GO AND IT'S DEAD. I THINK [00:50:01] SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT THERE. UM, THE OTHER THING YOU, AND THIS IS ABOUT TRAFFIC. UM, I, I LOVE TRAFFIC CIRCLES AS A DRIVER, BUT I THINK FOR PEDESTRIANS THEY ARE EXTREMELY DANGEROUS JUST FOR PEOPLE TO THINK ABOUT. AND IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF REGULAR TRANSPORTATION FROM DOWNTOWN TO THE AIRPORT. UH, COULD BE BUSES, COULD BE, I DON'T KNOW, TRACTORS FOR ALL I CARE , YOU KNOW, THAT'S IT. COUNCILWOMAN. UM, THANK YOU. I'M GONNA ADD ON TO THAT. SO DON'T, DON'T LOSE THAT THOUGHT ABOUT CONNECTING WITH, UH, FROM ONE SIDE DOWN TO THE OTHER. UM, I HAVE A LONG HISTORY AT THE AIRPORT. I GREW UP AT THE AIRPORT WHEN I WAS ONLY ONE LITTLE RUNWAY . AND I WAS VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE A FATHER AT AN AIRPLANE THAT, UM, WHEN IT WAS SKY RANCH AND WAS VERY INVOLVED IN THE MASTER PLANNING AND GETTING TO IT WHERE IT IS TODAY. SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH IT. UM, I'M OUT THERE QUITE FREQUENTLY. UM, WE HAVE, UM, DURING NATURAL DISASTERS, WE'VE HAD THE, THE PLANES COME AND REFUEL. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE KEEP THAT OPERATION AND WE, UM, REMEMBER THAT PART OF OUR EMERGENCY, UH, UM, PROCEDURES AND WHAT WE DO FOR OTHER COMMUNITIES AS WELL AS OUR OWN, UM, SONOMA COUNTY, I GUESS, UM, HENRY AND THE HELICOPTER AND THE OTHER, UM, THE, THE, I DON'T KNOW WHO IS IT? CAL FIRE, WHO OWNS THE FIRE AIRPLANES? THE DEPARTMENT OF, UH, DEPARTMENT OF FORESTRY. THE FORESTRY. OKAY. SO WE WANNA REMEMBER THAT, UM, THE CONNECTING OF, OR LIKE DOWNTOWN TO THE AIRPORT. WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT NUMEROUS TIMES HERE AND IN THE COMMUNITY ABOUT A BUS ROUTE. THE BUSES, THE CITY BUSES DO NOT GO TO THE AIRPORT RIGHT NOW. IT USED TO BE, UM, YOU COULD HAVE SOMEONE PICK YOU UP THROUGH THE, THE TRANSIT THAT, THAT'S NOT AVAILABLE ANYMORE. AND WE DO HAVE NOW THE, UM, TWO NINE ER DINERS OPEN FOUR, FIVE DAYS A WEEK. I'VE LOST TRACK FIVE DAYS, FIVE DAYS A WEEK, ONCE A MONTH. THE PAPA, THE UM, NONPROFIT THAT'S OUT THERE, THE PETALUMA PI PILOTS ASSOCIATION, THEY PUT ON A DISPLAY DAY, WHICH EDUCATES THE COMMUNITY ON THE AIRPORT, AIRPLANES, AVIATION. AND THEY EVEN GIVE RIDES STILL? NO, THEY'RE SHAKING THEIR HEADS. I'M PRIVILEGED . UM, ANYWAY, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE BIKE RACKS AT THE AIRPORT. I, I CAN'T IMAGINE WHERE I'VE SEEN ANY. NO, THAT IS CORRECT. YEAH, THERE'S NO BIKE RACKS. THERE'S ALSO NONE AT THE, AT THE FAIRGROUNDS ANYWAY, SO I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO PUT IT AS A BIKE RACKS. 'CAUSE THERE IS A REALLY NICE, UM, PEDESTRIAN AND BIKE TRAIL THAT GOES QUITE A DISTANCE INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS. I'VE WALKED IT WITH MY DOG FROM WASHINGTON STREET ALL THE WAY TO GARFIELD AND IT WOULDN'T BE THAT HARD TO CUT OVER TO OLD ADOBE SCHOOL, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHO OWNS ALL THAT PROPERTY IS VINEYARDS AND WHAT HAVE YOU NOW. SO I DON'T KNOW. UM, ANYWAY, SO THAT'S, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME BIKE RACKS, MORE DRINKING FOUNTAINS. WE HAVE A FEW PICNIC TABLES, BUT I THINK THERE'S ONLY TWO. UM, I SPENT A LOT OF TIME OUT THERE DURING COVID WITH PICNICS WITH THE GRANDKIDS, WATCHING AIRPLANES TAKE OFF AND LAND. 'CAUSE THAT WAS SOMETHING WE COULD DO OUTSIDE. UM, SO I KNOW THERE'S ONLY LIKE TWO PICNIC TABLES AND, UM, IF THE OFFICE IS OPEN, I USUALLY USE THAT BATHROOM FACILITY AND REFILL OUR WATER BOTTLES. BUT ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO MENTION WE REALLY NEED TO PUT SOME BIKE RACKS AND BUS ROUTES OUT THERE AND THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. I THINK, UH, COMMISSIONER SASSER HAS A FOLLOW UP. YEAH, I JUST DO WANNA MENTION THAT I DON'T THINK THE STRUCTURE THAT WE'RE CALLING THE TERMINAL BUILDING, UM, THAT IS ALREADY, WHAT, 30, 40 YEARS OLD AND IT WAS REPURPOSED FROM ANOTHER USE AS, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT WAS A JAIL OR SCHOOL ROOMS, BUT IT REALLY IS SUBSTANDARD [00:55:01] STRUCTURALLY, UM, FOR ITS PURPOSE. SO I WOULD DEFINITELY THINK THAT WITHIN THE NEXT 20 YEARS IN THE GENERAL PLAN, WE NEED TO HAVE A MORE PERMANENT AND SUITABLE STRUCTURE FOR THE PURPOSES OF MANAGING THE AIRPORT, HOUSING THE VEHICLES, UM, MAYBE EVEN PROVIDING A PUBLIC MEETINGS, AN ADDITIONAL PUBLIC MEETING SPACE FOR THE CITY. UM, BUT, UH, I THINK THAT'S, UH, SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN YOUR THOUGHTS. THANK YOU. I JUST WILL BUILD ON THAT VERY BRIEFLY. THAT WOULD TIE IN VERY NICELY TO AN ADVANCED AIR MOBILITY APPLICATION FOR THE AIRPORT TO HAVE A, A CONNECT CONNECTION POINT FOR THE PUBLIC TO THAT SERVICE. AND I WOULD JUST FOLLOW UP ON THAT, THAT I, I WOULD AGREE WITH, UH, UH, COUNCILMAN SAS, UH, COMMISSIONER SASSER, SORRY. AND YOU'RE RUNNING FOR ELECTION NOW, THAT, THAT THE, THE FACILITIES WE HAVE THERE ARE, ARE, ARE USED NOT ONLY BY PILOTS BUT BY THE PUBLIC BECAUSE THERE'S THE PICNIC TABLES THAT ARE OUT IN FRONT OF IT. THERE'S THE DECK THAT, THAT, UH, PEOPLE COME AND I BROUGHT MY KIDS THERE TO SIT AND WATCH AIRPLANES TAKE OFF AND LAND WHEN THEY'RE WAITING FOR, UH, UH, A TABLE AT TWO NINE OR DINER. UM, AND THERE'S RESTROOMS THERE THAT ARE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE RESTROOMS. AND THEN, UH, DAN'S I THINK HAS AN OFFICE THERE WHEN HE'S THERE AND HIS, HIS STAFF. UM, SO IT IS WELL, WELL USED AND IT DOES ALSO, AS YOU CAN SEE, WHETHER YOU'RE COMING IN AS THE PUBLIC OR YOU'RE COMING IN AS A PILOT, THAT IS THE FIRST EXPOSURE YOU HAVE TO PETALUMA. SO I THINK IT'S, IT WOULD BE IMPERATIVE OR IMPORTANT TO WORK ON IMPROVING THAT. UM, AND THEN I HAVE A COUPLE OF FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS IF I MAY AS WELL. UM, IN ONE SLIDE, WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE, THE AIRPORT, AND IT KIND OF TIES ON TO WHAT, UH, COMMISSIONER DIETRICH WAS TALKING ABOUT. YOU TALK ABOUT THE SUSTAINABILITY POLICIES ITEM OR CARBON, I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT THE WORDING YOU HAVE, IT'S KIND OF VERY GENERIC WITH WHAT YOU HAVE THERE. UH, I'M JUST CURIOUS, ONE IS IF YOU HAVE MORE SPECIFICS, TWO, WHEN YOU GET INVOLVED IN THIS, ARE YOU COMING GONNA TALK WITH THE COMMISSIONERS OR THE AIRPORT COMMISSION TO HELP DEFINE NEEDS? 'CAUSE AS WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU HEAR A LOT OF TALK AND SPECIFICALLY WE TALK ABOUT THE AVIATION FUEL, LIKE HILL RE HAS MOVED TO, UH, NO LONGER THE LOW LEAD. AND, UM, AS PILOTS AND AS A GROUP, WE ARE, WE'RE ALL ON BOARD THERE, BUT AS, UH, COMMISSIONER DIETRICH POINTED OUT, WE HAVE TO DO IT SAFELY BECAUSE IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE RUNNING OUTTA GAS AND THE CAR PULL OVER THE SIDE. IF YOU HAVE AN ISSUE AT 6,000 FEET, YOU'VE GOT NOWHERE TO GO BUT DOWN. UM, SO IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT WE DO IT SAFELY AND WE WANNA BE PART OF THE SOLUTION. WE'RE NOT AGAINST IT, BUT WE ARE AS A, AS A GROUP, TEND TO BE SOMEWHAT CONSERVATIVE FOR VARIOUS REASONS. BUT I JUST WONDER HOW HOW INVOLVED YOU'RE GONNA HAVE US IN THE PROCESS. AND WILL, IS THIS GONNA BE A CONVERSATION BECAUSE YOU HAVE IT LISTED THERE AND THERE'S NO REALLY SO LITTLE MORE DETAIL AND, AND RON OR KELLY J JUMP IN IF, IF YOU ANYTHING TO ADD OR THOUGHTS HERE? I MEAN, MY SO GREAT INTERESTING INFORMATION TO COME UP. I DIDN'T KNOW THIS WAS HAPPENING, SO, BUT IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING LIKE IN THE GENERAL PLAN, THERE MIGHT BE A, LIKE, THERE MIGHT BE A, UH, A POLICY THAT SAYS SOMETHING LIKE, CONSIDER CONTINUE TO EXPLORE, YOU KNOW, INNOVATIONS IN AIRCRAFT TECHNOLOGY, UM, TO ALLOW PETALUMA AIRPORT, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT'S GONNA BE SOMETHING, IT'S NOT GONNA SAY SOMETHING LIKE, DO THIS BY THIS STATE. IT'S, IT'S GOING TO BE A, A KIND OF LOOSE THING BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE, IT'S CHANGING SO RAPIDLY AND IT'S SUCH A NEW THING THAT WE DON'T KNOW. WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? WHERE'S THE BUDGET, WHAT DO WE, WHAT'S THE PRIORITIES? ANYTHING? SO YOU CAN PUT SOMETHING IN A GENERAL PLAN THAT'S LIKE, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE OUR AIRPORT CONTINUES TO KEEP UP WITH THE TIMES. AND DO, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE ARE THINKING ABOUT UPDATING THE TERMINAL, WE SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT OUR ENERGY NEEDS TO ALLOW US TO STAY COMPETITIVE AND FLOURISH WITH NEW TECHNOLOGY. THINGS THAT IT WOULD BE VERY GENERAL LIKE THAT. AND OBVIOUSLY ANYTHING MORE CONCRETE THAN THAT WOULD HAPPEN AT A LATER DATE AND, AND GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. I THINK THE CONCERN IF, IF I MAY, IS JUST ONE OF UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. MM-HMM, . MM-HMM . SO WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN BIT IN A VERY PRACTICAL MEANS BY THE DESIRE FOR THE CARBON NEUTRALITY AND NOT BEING ABLE TO PUT IN BACKUP POWER GENERATION AT THE AIRPORT. MM-HMM. . MM-HMM. . SO [01:00:01] THAT WAS PROBABLY AN UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE YEAH. OF THAT POLICY OR OF THAT GOAL. UM, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF INTERCONNECTED PIECES AND THERE HAVE BEEN CONVERSATIONS THAT HAVE COME UP WHERE THERE'S BEEN A DESIRE TO MOVE A HUNDRED PERCENT FROM THE EXISTING PROVEN SAFE AVIATION FUEL THAT WE'RE USING TODAY TO THE NEW UNLEADED OPTION WITHOUT RETAINING THE ABILITY FOR AN AIRCRAFT TO HAVE CONVENTIONAL FUEL AVAILABLE. THAT'S HIGHLY CONCERNING FROM A SAFETY PERSPECTIVE. AND I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO GET INTO THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE THESE BROAD BRUSH STATEMENTS, THEY GET APPLIED IN WAYS THAT MAYBE WEREN'T THE ORIGINAL INTENT AND MAYBE BY FOLKS THAT AREN'T FULLY INFORMED ON AVIATION SAFETY, WHICH IS A RATHER NICHE FIELD, ADMITTEDLY. UM, SO THAT'S THE CONCERN, RIGHT? IS THAT THERE MAY BE SOMETHING THAT GETS STATED AS THIS OVERARCHING, WE ARE ALL GOING TO DO THIS THING THAT IS THEN COUNTER TO THE SUCCESS AND SAFETY OF, OF THE AVIATION OPERATIONS. GOT IT. GOT IT. CAN I, CAN I ADD SOMETHING, AND HEATHER CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I BELIEVE, I THINK YOU'RE, YOU'RE BOTH REFERRING TO SIX AND SPECIFICALLY LOW CARBON TRAVEL. THAT THAT PHRASE, IS THAT WHAT I, I, THERE WAS, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND IT. I DON'T HAVE IT, IT DIDN'T HAVE THAT ONE. RON, COULD WE GO BACK A COUPLE SLIDES? YEAH. UM, TO SEE THE, THE VERBIAGE. YEAH. RIGHT. SO ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE, THE BOTTOM ONE THERE WHERE IT SAYS THAT THAT LOW CARBON, WAS THAT THE PHRASING THAT, UM, YEAH, IT, YES. SO, AND, AND THEN UP IN, IN THE, THE BEGINNING OF IT, THE TP DASH 5.5 AND IT SAYS REDUCING THE CARBON FOOTPRINT AND MANAGING THE IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY. SO I, AND THAT'S KIND OF, THEY'RE ALL INTERCONNECTED, IF YOU WILL. UM, AND, AND AGAIN, THAT'S WHY THE QUESTION BECOMES IS WHAT ARE THE EXPECTATIONS? BECAUSE WE, WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND WHERE WE WANT TO GO AND WHERE THE CITY WANTS TO GO. AND WE APPRECIATE THAT, BUT WE WANNA BE ABLE TO TEMPER THOSE EXPECTATIONS WITH WHAT'S REALISTIC AND ULTIMATELY WHAT IS SAFE. SO I THINK, AND, AND AGAIN, HEATHER, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG HERE, I THINK THE INTENT OF THAT WAS IF THERE'S FREIGHT COMING IN, WHAT ARE THE VEHICLES THAT ARE UNLOADING THAT FREIGHT? WHAT KIND OF FUEL ARE THEY USING ON THE GROUND OR I, I DON'T THINK THE INTENT WAS THAT WE WERE EXPECTING AIRLINE FUEL TO CHANGE, I THINK, BUT WE COULD ADD, THERE COULD BE SOMETHING IN THERE TO BETTER CLARIFY THAT OR SAY, YOU KNOW, AND ALSO TO SAY ANYTHING WE MIGHT BE SAYING ABOUT THE AIRPORT AND, UH, EMERGING TECHNOLOGIES AND ANY SHIFTS, THERE COULD BE SOMETHING THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, THAT SAFETY NEEDS TO BE PRIMARY, YOU KNOW, UH, FILTER FOR ANY CHANGES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 'CAUSE I, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, IT'S NOT AN OPPO, I THINK, I THINK I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, THAT IT'S NOT AN OPPOSITION TO EXPLORING AND DOING THOSE THINGS. IT'S JUST ALWAYS MAKING SURE THAT SAFETY IS THE NUMBER, THE NUMBER ONE THING, THE, BECAUSE OF THE IMPACTS. 'CAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AIRCRAFT AND THE FAA JUST MOVES MUCH SLOWER THAN THE AUTOMATED INDUSTRY. RIGHT. GOT IT. SO YOU'RE TALKING, YOU KNOW, FIVE TO 10 YEAR CERTIFICATION HORIZONS AS OPPOSED TO DEPLOY A NEW MODEL YEAR EVERY YEAR. RIGHT. SO IT'S JUST A SLOWER PACE. IT'S, I THINK WE'RE ALL VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE LONG TERM VISION. WE'RE JUST WORRIED ABOUT UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES ALONG THE WAY. GOT IT. YEAH, THERE'S, THERE'S ALSO A CONCERN THAT WE HAVE THAT, YOU KNOW, AND DAN IS ON TOP OF THIS, BOTH THE FA STATE OF CALIFORNIA HAVE THEIR OWN KIND OF TIMELINES AND THEY'RE SORT OF SORTING THAT ALL OUT. BUT FOR THE AIRPORT ITSELF, THE FUEL SALE FOR THE AVGAS IS A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT PART OF THE REVENUE. AND SO IF WE LIMIT OURSELVES TO A NEW FUEL, UM, AND EVERYBODY STILL WANTS TO BUY THE OLD FUEL, THEY'LL JUST FLY OVER THE HILL, THE NUT TREE TO FILL UP ON OLD FUEL AND WE'LL LOSE THAT SOURCE OF REVENUE. AND SO WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL. I KNOW DAN'S ON TOP OF ALL OF IT AS, AS WELL AS OUR AGAS DISTRIBUTOR. UM, BUT JUST ANOTHER CONCERN THAT WE'RE ALL PRETTY, IT'S KIND OF A SPECIALIZED AREA MM-HMM. THAT WE'RE ALL KEEPING OUR EARS OPEN ABOUT. YEAH. I THINK WE CAN DEFINITELY CLARIFY THAT THE INTENT WAS NOT TO MANDATE OR SUGGEST CHANGES TO AIRLINE FUEL. OKAY. UM, IF, YEAH. IF THERE WAS INTEREST IN ANOTHER ONE THAT IF YOU WANTED TO SUPPORT THAT IN SOME WAY. OKAY. BUT I THINK WE CAN CLARIFY THAT THAT WAS NOT THE INTENTION OF, OF THIS. YEAH. AND JUST AS A QUICK FOLLOW UP ON THAT, UM, THE FAAI BELIEVE LAST YEAR, UM, APPROVED AN UNLEADED, HIGH OCTANE AVIATION FUEL, UM, AFTER QUITE A BIT OF TESTING. UM, BUT IT TAKES, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, UH, QUITE A WHILE TO RAMP UP PRODUCTION, [01:05:01] DISTRIBUTION, ALL THAT INFRASTRUCTURE. YOU JUST DON'T SNAP YOUR FINGERS AND DO THAT. AND THE FA A'S GOAL IS TO HAVE THIS NEW UNLEADED FUEL AVAILABLE BY 2030 EVERYWHERE IN THE COUNTRY. AND I JUST READ AN ARTICLE IN THE LOCAL A OPA MAGAZINE THAT, UH, THEIR INITIAL FOCUS IS ON CERTAIN LOCALES WITHIN CALIFORNIA, UH, TO PROVIDE, UH, THAT FUEL. BUT INTERESTINGLY, UH, AND NANCY RAN INTO THIS, UM, IF YOU WANT TO USE THAT FUEL, YOU JUST CAN'T PULL UP TO THE PUMP AND POUR IT IN THE TANK. YOU HAVE TO HAVE WHAT'S CALLED A, UM, SUPPLEMENTAL TYPE CERTIFICATE, UM, FROM THE FUEL MANUFACTURER TO PROTECT YOUR AIRPLANE. AND THAT'S A FEW HUNDRED DOLLARS EACH. AND DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF ENGINES YOU HAVE, IT, YOU KNOW, GOES UP FROM THERE. UH, IT'S A LEGAL KIND OF THING, BUT, UM, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHEN PEOPLE HEAR THE WORD OOH LED, THEY DON'T FREAK OUT BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN NUMEROUS STUDIES AT SMALL AIRPORTS, NOT THE, IN SOME MEDIUM TO LARGE AIRPORTS, NOT THE LEAST OF WHICH WAS REED HILLVIEW DOWN IN SANTA CLARA COUNTY, WHERE THERE WAS A BIG CONCERN ABOUT LEAD AND HOW IT MIGHT, YOU KNOW, INFLUENCE HEALTH OF CHILDREN OR SOMETHING. AND SIGNIFICANT STUDIES WERE DONE. UM, AND THEY FOUND THAT THE LEAD BOTH ON THE PROPERTY, OFF THE PROPERTY AND IN THE AIR, WAS ALMOST INDISTINGUISHABLE FROM BACKGROUND. I COULDN'T FIND ANYTHING OF ANY SIGNIFICANT CHANGE. UH, AND SO THE CONCERN WAS, I SUPPOSE WELL INTENDED, BUT A BIT MISGUIDED. SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IF THAT PRESSURE COMES UP TO YOU FOLKS, YOU'LL UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A FAIR BIT OF DATA THAT SUPPORTS THE LACK OF NEGATIVE IMPACT OF THE CURRENT FUEL. AND THE NEW ONE WON'T HAVE LEAD IN IT AT ALL. BUT SINCE AIRCRAFT ENGINES ARE SO SPECIFIC, IF YOU PUT THE WRONG FUEL IN THE AIRPLANE ENGINE, YOU CAN DESTROY IT IN FIVE MINUTES. AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW YOU'VE DONE THAT AND YOU'RE FLYING WITH A FAMILY SOMEWHERE, SOMEBODY GOING TO GET HURT. MM-HMM. . AND SO WE JUST GOTTA BE VERY CAREFUL. THANK YOU. I JUST, I JUST THINK THE END IS THAT, THAT WE, WE UNDERSTAND WHERE WE WANT TO GO AND WE JUST, WE WOULD LIKE TO BE A PART OF THE CONVERSATION AS, AS THE AVIATION COMMUNITY TO GIVE YOU INPUT, UM, AND, AND ASSIST IN, IN GETTING TO THIS END GOAL IN A SAFE, TIMELY FASHION. SO THAT, THAT'S ALL WE ASK, I THINK ON THAT. UM, I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHER QUESTIONS WHICH ARE NOT NECESSARILY RELEVANT TO THE AIRPORT, BUT JUST IN SOME OF THE THINGS IF I COULD ASK. UM, IT WAS JUST ABOUT A COUPLE OF THE STATISTICS THAT YOU PROVIDED AND THAT I FOUND INTRIGUING. AND THAT WAS THAT YOU, I SAID, YOU SAID, UH, 20,000 PEOPLE ARE LEAVING PETALUMA TO GO TO WORK. THE 19,000 ARE COMING. WHERE ARE THOSE 20,000 GOING TO? ARE THEY GONNA SAN FRANCISCO PRIMARILY? I GUESS THAT'S THE QUESTION. 'CAUSE WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT INFRASTRUCTURE AND SUPPORTING THAT AND, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC TRANSIT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT, TO ME THAT STARTS GETTING INTERESTING. SO HOW DO YOU ELIMINATE AUTOMOBILES? IF YOU'VE GOT 20,000 PEOPLE WHO ARE DRIVING TO SAN FRANCISCO, SAN JOSE VALLEJO, YOU'RE NOT GONNA ELIMINATE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN CARS BECAUSE IT'S THE, UNFORTUNATELY, THE PUBLIC TRANSIT THAT WAY IS NOT GOING. THE FLIP SIDE IS WHERE ARE THE PEOPLE FROM PETALUMA COMING TO COMING TO WORK IN PETALUMA? WHERE ARE THEY COMING FROM? UM, AND IS THERE TRANSIT AVAILABLE TO THEM AS WELL? AND I'M, I'M GUESSING THE ANSWER TO THAT IS PROBABLY ALSO A NO. SO I DUNNO KNOW IF YOU CAN ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. AND THEN THE LAST QUESTION I HAD WAS ON THOSE STATISTICS, YOU SAID A THIRD OF THOSE WERE A MILE OR LESS FOR THE TRIPS. WHAT WERE THOSE, ARE THOSE TRIPS WHERE SOMEBODY'S PRIMARILY GOING GROCERY STORE OR? I, I MEAN, JUST, I'M JUST CURIOUS 'CAUSE WHEN I THINK THE BROADER PICTURE TRYING TO ELIMINATE HOW MUCH OF THESE ARE YOU GONNA BE ABLE TO ELIMINATE WITH, WITH A BETTER INFRASTRUCTURE? AND, AND I DON'T WANNA BE NEGATIVE ON THAT. I'M JUST THINKING BIG PICTURE. UM, KELLY OR MATT, I HAVE THE MUTE INFORMATION AT MY FINGERTIPS IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT READILY AVAILABLE. UH, YEAH, I'LL JUST NOTE THAT'S FROM THE EXISTING CONDITIONS REPORT. AND, UM, RON, IF YEAH, IF YOU HAVE IT UP AND WOULD LIKE TO SHARE, PLEASE GO AHEAD. MATTER OF FACT, I MIGHT EVEN BE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PUT IT ON THE SCREEN. GIMME A SECOND HERE. WELL, AND CAN I ADD ONE THING, UH, WHILE YOU'RE DOING THAT, RON, UM, ANOTHER PIECE OF THAT, YOU KNOW, 20, APPROXIMATELY 20,000 PEOPLE, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH WAY LEAVING IN 19 COMING IN OR VICE VERSA. ANOTHER PART OF THAT, AND RON WILL GET INTO SOME OF LIKE, WHERE SPECIFICALLY ARE THEY GOING? [01:10:01] BUT ANOTHER PART OF THAT IS RELATED TO HOUSING AND TRYING TO REALLY FOCUS ON WHY DO PEOPLE HAVE TO LEAVE THE AREA OR WHY CAN'T PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING HERE LIVE IN THE AREA? AND SOME OF THAT GETS DOWN TO LIKE LAND USE AND HOUSING, UM, POLICIES AND PRIORITIES, LIKE A LOT OF OUR, UM, OUR EMPLOYMENT HERE AND, YOU KNOW, HOSPITALITY, UM, SOME OF, SOME OF THOSE. AND THEN PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE IN PETALUMA BECAUSE OF THOSE JOBS. AND SO NEEDING TO REALLY PRIORITIZE, WE NEED HOUSING THAT THE PEOPLE WHO WORK HERE CAN AFFORD TO LIVE HERE AS WELL. UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S ANOTHER ASPECT OUTSIDE OF KIND OF TRANSPORTATION PER SE, BUT SUPPORTS THAT REDUCTION IN PEOPLE NEEDING TO LEAVE OR DRIVE IN BECAUSE THEY, THERE'S MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE AND WORK IN THE SAME AREA. WELL, IT COULD BE ARGUED THAT THE 20,000 PEOPLE WHO ARE LEAVING TO WORK, THEY, THEY IN SAN FRANCISCO, THAT THEY WOULD LIVE IN SAN FRANCISCO IF THEY COULD AFFORD TO LIVE THERE. . SO IT'S, I MEAN IT'S, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. IT'S, BUT IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF A TWO-WAY STREET WITHOUT AS WELL. DEFINITELY. AND THEN THE WHOLE LAND USE AND THEN POPULATION DYNAMICS OF OUR SMALL TOWN CHANGING. AND, BUT IT'S ALSO MAKING SURE WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, HIGH PAYING JOBS. IT, IT GOES BOTH WAYS. IT'S THE ECONOMICS, IT'S THE HOUSING AND TRYING TO GET, YOU KNOW, THE BALANCE WHERE ANYBODY, HOPEFULLY THEY WANNA BE IN PETALUMA. HOPEFULLY THERE'S JOBS THAT CAN SURE. CAN SUPPORT THEIR LIVELIHOOD. AND THERE'S ALSO HOUSING THAT CAN, YOU KNOW, BE PRICED THAT IT MATCHES WHATEVER. SO THAT, THAT VARIETY OF HOUSING OPTIONS AND EMPLOYMENT OPTIONS AND TRYING TO GET MORE OF THAT JOBS HOUSING BALANCE. SO I'LL LET RON TOUCH ON SOME OF THE MORE SPECIFICS OF WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING, BUT I WANTED TO ADD THAT. YEAH. THANK YOU, HEATHER. YEAH, IT'S A REALLY CRITICAL POINT THAT IT'S A MULTIFACETED, UH, SOLUTION TO THIS, THIS, UM, CHALLENGE. BUT, UM, AND MATT AND, UH, KELLY CAN ADD, BUT I THINK THE TAKEAWAY HERE IS THE, UM, VAST MAJORITY OF OF COMMUTERS ARE REGIONAL IN NATURE. UM, THOSE WORKING IN PETALUMA, 80% EITHER LIVE IN THE CITY OR ARE FROM SONOMA COUNTY. LIKEWISE, THOSE, UM, WHO ARE, WHO LIVE IN PETALUMA, WHAT IS THAT, 72%, UM, EITHER WORK IN THE CITY OR SONOMA COUNTY. UM, THERE OBVIOUSLY IS BROADER REGIONAL TRANSPORT GOING ON. UM, BUT THESE AREN'T SUPER LONG COMMUTES, BUT ARE WORTH NOTING THAT YES, PEOPLE ARE LARGELY DRIVING IN, DRIVING ALONE IN VEHICLES TO GET TO WORK WITHIN THE REGION. I I DON'T KNOW IF MATT OR KELLY, YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD ON THAT? THANKS, RON. I WOULD JUST ALSO NOTE ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I SHOWED A TRANSIT SLIDE OR MAP. UM, SO WE CAN ALSO THINK ABOUT REGIONAL TRANSIT CONNECTIONS. YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE BUSES THAT GO INTO THE FINANCIAL DISTRICT OF SAN FRANCISCO. AND SO HOW CAN WE ALSO WORK WITH SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES IF, IF PEOPLE ARE WORKING OUTSIDE AND WANT TO, FOR WHATEVER REASON. UM, YEAH, THAT'S ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY AND SOMEWHAT IN OUR, OUR CONTROL AS A, AS A CITY TO MAYBE PARTNER WITH OTHER AGENCIES TO MAKE SURE WE'RE OFFERING REALLY GOOD, UM, REGIONAL TRANSIT SYSTEMS. SURE. AND I THINK IT'S A, THERE'S NOT ONE ONE SOLUTION. IT'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS COMING TOGETHER TO, UM, ADDRESS IT. I, I WILL SUGGEST THAT ONE OF THOSE SOLUTIONS IN THAT 20 TO 30 YEAR TIME HORIZON THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE ADVANCED AIR MOBILITY. THESE ARE ALL WELL WITHIN THE RANGE OF THE AIRCRAFT. MM-HMM. THAT ARE BEING BROUGHT ONLINE FOR THAT. UM, AND PARTICULARLY FOR, YOU KNOW, AIRPORT TO AIRPORT PAIRS, YOU KNOW, CONCORD, PETALUMA WOULD BE A PERFECT MM-HMM. , UH, ELECTRIC AIRCRAFT COMMUTE FOR SOMEBODY WHO'S WORKING IN CON ACROSS THE COUNTY, FOR EXAMPLE. SO I THINK IT'S NOT, NOT THE SOLUTION, CERTAINLY AS YOU SAY, THERE'S, IT'S A, IT'S A MOSAIC APPROACH, BUT, UM, EQUIPPING OUR EXISTING AVIATION FACILITIES TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT AS IT COMES ONLINE WILL SET US UP TO BE ONE OF THE FIRST COMMUNITIES TO BENEFIT FROM THAT. THANK YOU. THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTIONS. DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR TAKING THE TIME AND, UH, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT AND FOR TAKING THE QUESTIONS. AND SOME OF THEM ARE THE HARD ONES, SO YEAH, REALLY APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. YOU ARE ALWAYS A VERY, UM, COURTEOUS AND PLEASANT COMMISSION TO VISIT, SO THANK YOU. WE TRY SOMETIMES. I'VE LEARNED SO MUCH. SO THANK YOU ALL. UM, THIS IS, THIS IS GREAT. . SORRY, WE'RE USED TO TALKING TO AIRCRAFT. YEAH, . ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO WITH THAT, [APPROVAL OF MINUTES] [01:15:01] WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM, WHICH IS THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES. SO DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY CHANGES TO THE APRIL 4TH, UH, COMMISSION MINUTES? I WILL TAKE THAT AS A NO. SO WITH THAT, I WILL, UH, DEEM THE MINUTES APPROVED. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS OF FOR CONSIDERATION. AND WE HAVE NONE OF THOSE TODAY. SO WE GET TO MOVE ON TO THE [COMMITTEE COMMENT] NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS COMMITTEE COMMENT. AND THE FIRST ONE UP IS OUR COUNCIL MOVING. UH, THANK YOU. UM, WELL, BESIDES WORKING ON THE GENERAL PLAN, UM, I HAVE, I HAVE ALL MY FRAMEWORKS FILLED OUT. ALL 14 PAGES, HOURS AND HOURS OF READING THE GENERAL PLAN AND TALKING ABOUT IT. UM, AND ALSO BEHIND YOU YOU'LL SEE WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE FOCUS AND YOU'LL SEE AND UM, THE 15 MINUTE CITY WHERE THE AIRPORT IS, SEE WHERE THE AIR, IT SAYS AIRPORT. MM-HMM, . AND THE, UM, THIS IS WHAT WE WORKED ON UNTIL LIKE MIDNIGHT THE OTHER NIGHT. , HE SHAKING HIS HEAD 'CAUSE HE WAS THERE. AND, UM, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE, UH, GOING TO PUT THE, UM, URBAN GROWTH BOUNDARY ON THE BALLOT IN NOVEMBER. SO WE'LL BE WORKING ON THAT. AND YOU CAN SEE THE SPHERE OF INFLUENCES AND THE AREAS THAT WE MIGHT CONSIDER, UM, SOMEDAY EXPANDING THAT UGB. SO THAT'S ONE THING WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON. UM, WE WORKED ON GOALS AND PRIORITIES. UM, WE HAVE LIKE 20 AND WE CAN PROBABLY ONLY AFFORD LIKE FIVE, BUT WE'RE WORKING ON SOME. AND THEN WE HAD A VERY LATE MEETING TALKING ABOUT THE, AND DECIDING ON THE TRAFFIC COMING ISSUES OF D STREET. AND THEN, UM, IT WAS TALKED ABOUT WITH THE MAY 11TH, UM, AT THE FAIRGROUNDS, THE PLAN FEST, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO, UM, GO TO EACH ONE OF THE FRAMEWORK, THE 14 STATIONS AND INTERACT AND PUT YOUR NOTES IN AS A COMMUNITY MEMBER. SO THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO, TO PARTICIPATE. AND NEXT UP, UM, WHICH WILL BE LOTS OF LATE NIGHTS IS OUR BUDGETS AND, UM, LUCKILY THE AIRPORTS ENTERPRISE, SO YOU WON'T BE AFFECTED, BUT, UM, SAFETY AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NEVER ENOUGH MONEY FOR ALL THE CS WE NEED TO WORK ON AND THE TRESTLE DOWNTOWN, BUT WE'RE GONNA WORK ON THAT BUDGET AND THAT'S COMING UP NEXT MONTH OR THIS MONTH MAY. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON. THANKS. CAN I ASK A QUESTION ON THE BUDGET? SURE. UM, WHERE ARE WE? I, I MEAN, HOW ARE WE DOING? I MEAN, YOU HEAR THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA WENT FROM A 30 BILLION WHATEVER, SURPLUS TO A 50 BILLION DEFICIT OR WHATEVER IT IS. HOW ARE WE DOING COMPARED TO THE STATE? WELL, WE HAVEN'T ACTUALLY SEEN THE ACTUAL DROP BUDGET YET, SO I CAN'T REALLY TELL YOU WHAT MONEY'S COMING IN. UM, WE'RE, WE'RE DOING WELL WITH OUR TAX REVENUE AND OUR MEASURING YOU MONEY, UM, MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, SALARIES GOT INCREASED AT THE CORRECT TIME. SO WE'RE COMPETITIVE AND OUR SAFETY OFFICERS, YOU KNOW, SO THEY'RE NOT LEAVING PETALUMA TO GO TO ANOTHER JURISDICTION HAS HIGHER PAY. WE WANT TO BE COMPETITIVE. SO I HAVE NOT SEEN THE BUDGET FOR THE NEW FISCAL SCHOOL YEAR, SO I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT, DAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY INSIGHT ON WHAT THE STATE'S? I DON'T, I'M SORRY. I'M ONLY AIRPORT AND MARINA FOCUSED BUDGET WISE, BUT, UH, YEAH, THIS IS YOUR ENTERPRISE, SO YOU'RE VERY FORTUNATE. BUT, UM, WE HAVEN'T SEEN IT YET. OKAY. AND WE HAVE A NEW FINANCIAL DIRECTOR, AND I HAVEN'T BOTHERED HER YET, BUT IT'S COMING. OKAY. AND WE'RE ALSO WORKING ON, UM, UM, OUR INDEPENDENT AUDITOR FOR THE POLICE WILL BE GIVING THEIR REPORT ON MONDAY, AND WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA TO, UM, PUT TOGETHER THAT ADVISORY GROUP ON THE, UM, OVERSEEING [01:20:01] THE, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OUR POLICE. SO THAT'S A NEW, UM, COMMITTEE THAT WILL BE AN ADVISORY TO THE COMMUNITY ON, AND WE'RE JUST PUTTING TOGETHER THE RESOLUTION ON MONDAY. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE OBJECTIVE TO DO. SO STAY TUNED. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, JUST ONE QUICK COMMENT ON BUDGET, JUST I, I'M SURE YOU KNOW THIS, KAREN, BUT IN CASE ANY OF YOUR, UH, CO-COUNSEL PEOPLE, UM, DON'T REALIZE THIS AS, AS YOU'RE PROBABLY AWARE FROM YOUR DAD, UM, ALL OF THE TENANTS AT THE AIRPORT PAY A UNSECURED PROPERTY TAX BASED ON THE VALUE OF THE AIRCRAFT AND EITHER THE HANGAR OR TIE DOWN SPACE THAT WE LEASE, THAT MONEY IS PAID TO SONOMA COUNTY OF THAT ONE THIRD COMES BACK TO THE AIRPORT AND IT LOOKS LIKE THE BUDGET SHOWING SO FAR REVENUES THIS YEAR, 180,000, WHICH WAS WAY ABOVE WHAT WE ANTICIPATED. OH, THAT'S GOOD. ANOTHER THIRD STAYS WITH THE COUNTY AND THE FINAL THIRD IS DEDICATED TO PETALUMA PUBLIC SCHOOLS. AND WHAT PAGE ARE YOU FINDING THAT IT IS ON THE BUDGET? UM, REVENUE STATUS REPORT, PAGE ONE. IT'S WAY BACK IN YOUR STACK THERE, BUT IT'S, UH, REVENUE, IT'S THE FIRST ITEM. FIRST LINE ITEM. SO IF I BELIEVE IT'S, UH, PAGE 54 IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GET A PAGE NUMBER. OH, 54. OH 54. CORRECT. OKAY. 'CAUSE I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE ONES YEAH. THAT WERE ON THE J AS NINTH. SO ANYWAY, JUST IN CASE, SO I DON'T HAVE ASK A QUESTION. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO REMIND YOUR FELLOW, FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS THE MONEY THAT WE SHIFTED THAT DIRECTION. UH, WITH THAT WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE AD, AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE UPDATES. AND TOM, DID YOU OR YES OR NO? YEAH, JUST A QUICK ONE. NANCY AND I GOT TOGETHER FOR ANOTHER, UH, COFFEE, UH, INSTIGATED MEETING AND, UH, . UM, WE HAVE DRAFTED A TENANT SURVEY. UH, WE DID ONE A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO AND WE WANTED TO DO ANOTHER ONE, UH, JUST TO SEE WHERE THE TENANTS ARE WITH WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE AIRPORT, UH, TO SEE HOW LONG THEY'VE BEEN THERE, HOW LONG THEY INTEND TO STAY, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. UM, WHETHER THEY'RE ON THE WAITING LIST AND NEED A HANGER, YOU KNOW, THOSE KIND OF THINGS. AND, UH, AND THEN SOME GENERAL COMMENTS ON HOW THEY THINK THINGS ARE GOING AND WHAT THEY THINK THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES OUGHT TO BE. SO NANCY PLAN WITH ME IS TO GET WITH DAN AND TALK ABOUT THAT, SHOW HIM WHAT WE'VE GOT SO FAR, PROVIDE ANY INPUT AND UPDATES, UH, SEND THAT OUT. PROBABLY USE, YOU KNOW, SOME SOFTWARE SURVEYMONKEY OR SOMETHING SO TENANTS CAN DO THAT EASILY, REVIEW THE DATA, HAVE IT ANALYZED, AND THEN PUT ON A, UH, UM, AIRPORT TOWN HALL TYPE MEETING WHERE ALL THE TENANTS CAN GET TOGETHER AND WE CAN SHARE THE RESULTS OF THE SURVEY, GATHER ANY ADDITIONAL INPUT, SHARE WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW AND WHAT WE HAVE PLANS GOING FORWARD, BUDGET, YOU KNOW, ALL THAT KINDA STUFF. SO ANYWAY, THAT'S THE PLAN WE'VE GOT SO FAR, A LOT OF WORK TO DO. BUT ANYWAY, THANK YOU. ANY, UH, OTHER AD HOC COMMITTEE UPDATES? I THINK WITH JEFF DO HERE. OKAY. WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS COMMISSIONER COMMENT TO, UH, ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANYTHING THEY'D LIKE TO COMMENT ON? YOU AGREE. I, OH, SORRY. I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHO, BUT, UM, THE DISPLAY DAY FOR APRIL, DID IT TAKE PLACE BECAUSE WE WERE MOVING IT AWAY FROM VETERAN EGG DAY? NO, IT DID. YEAH. AND HOW SUCCESSFUL WAS THAT? UH, WE KEPT IT ON THE BUTTER AND EGG. OH, YOU KEPT IT ON THE SAME DAY? ON THE SAME DAY. JUST BECAUSE SO MANY OF THE AIRCRAFT OWNERS WHO DISPLAYED OH, GOTCHA. JUST TO, YOU KNOW, IT WAS THE OUTREACH TO TRY AND GET EVERYBODY TUNED TO A NEW DATE OKAY. WAS GONNA BE TOO SIGNIFICANT IN TOO SHORT A TIMEFRAME. OKAY. AND SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE, UH, I WAS IN THE PARADE ZONE THEN, SO I, I, I ACTUALLY, I FLEW, GO AHEAD. I, I RECALL IT WAS, YOU KNOW, THE CLICKER WAS SOMEWHERE IN OVER 150. OH, THAT'S NOT BAD FOR VETERAN EGGS DAY. YEAH. AND, AND MAY WILL STILL BE THE THIRD SATURDAY, CORRECT? MM-HMM. THE THIRD SATURDAY. MM-HMM. . SO I ALWAYS ANNOUNCE IT. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO COMMISSIONER COMMENT TO ANYONE, HAVE ANY COMMENTS. OKAY. WITH THAT THEN WE'LL MOVE [STAFF COMMENT] ON TO STAFF COMMENT AND THAT WOULD BE, UH, THE AIRPORT MANAGER'S REPORT. THANK YOU. AT THE END, I KNOW YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT DOING AN ABBREVIATED YEAH, I JUST WANNA JUST DO A REALLY BRIEF, I DON'T WANNA GO THROUGH ALL THE ITEMS. IF, IF YOU'LL PERMIT ME. UM, CAN YOU JUST, I KIND OF START A NEW SECTION OF THE REPORT, UH, THAT JUST, UH, [01:25:01] COVERS QUESTIONS THAT COME IN, UM, EITHER DIRECTLY FROM COMMISSIONERS OR THROUGH THE CHAIR. UM, IT DEFINITELY ENCOURAGE YOU TO KEEP SENDING THOSE QUESTIONS, BE HAPPY TO KIND OF PROVIDE RESPONSES. I THINK IT WORKS WELL, UM, UH, FOR, ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S OUTSIDE, UH, QUESTIONS. MAYBE THE PERSON GETS THE QUESTION ANSWERED WITHOUT HAVING TO COME TO THE MEETING. THEY COULD JUST READ THE, THE REPORT. SO I THINK WE'RE GONNA TRY THIS OUT. UM, BUT PLEASE CONTINUE TO SEND QUESTIONS. I'VE ADDRESSED SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WERE, UM, ASKED OF, OF ME, UM, REGARDING EVERYTHING FROM INSURANCE TO, UH, AIR ACCESS, THE AIRFIELD. AND THEN JUST A REALLY QUICK, UM, SUMMARY ABOUT PUBLIC COMMENT. UM, BUDGET WISE, WE ARE GREAT. WE ARE, WE ARE SMACK DAB, UM, AT 1.6 MILLION, UH, REVENUES, EXPENDITURES. WE'RE DOING GREAT THERE. UM, THE ONLY ITEM I REALLY WANTED TO BRING YOUR, TO YOUR ATTENTION OFF OF THIS IS, UM, IT KIND OF TIES IN WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT. UM, THERE WAS A COMMENT ABOUT POWER BACKUP. UM, WE ARE FINALLY GETTING SOME PROGRESS ON THIS. WE DO HAVE AN ACTIVE REQUEST FOR A PROPOSAL, UM, THAT IS ON THE, THE CITY, UM, BID, UM, SITE THAT IS FOR, UH, EMERGENCY POWER BACKUP FOR ALL CITY FACILITIES, AT LEAST THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED BY THIS. UM, RFP. IT DOES INCLUDE THE AIRPORT. AND SO, UM, IT, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY, WE WILL BE SELECTING A CONTRACTOR OR A, UM, WHOEVER RESPONDS TO THIS, UH, RFP BY UM, UH, APRIL 30TH, THAT'LL KIND OF OPEN THE DOOR FOR MOVING TOWARDS A SOLUTION. HOPEFULLY IT'LL BE A HOLISTIC SOLUTION FOR SEVERAL SITES ACROSS THE CITY. UM, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WILL BE. WE DON'T KNOW THE TECHNOLOGY THAT'S PART OF THIS, UM, RFP PROCESS WOULD BE TO FIND SOMEBODY THAT CAN, UM, HELP US WITH THAT PART. UM, SO ANYWAY, JUST JUST WANTED TO PASS THIS ON, ON TO YOU THAT, UH, WE ARE MAKING PROGRESS, THANKFULLY. AND IT'S NOT JUST, UH, US OUT THE AIRPORT. IT IS, UM, UH, I THINK IT'S, UH, MOSTLY, UH, PUBLIC WORKS, UM, FOCUSED FOR THIS ONE. BUT WE ARE GOING TO OTHER SITES, POLICE, FIRE, UH, SEVERAL OTHERS IN THE CITY TO TRY TO FIND BACKUP SOLUTIONS. 'CAUSE NOT JUST AN AIRPORT ISSUE, IT'S A, IT'S A CITYWIDE ISSUE. SO YOU WERE SAYING THAT THAT RFP CLOSED THE, THIS PAST WHAT, TUESDAY? YEAH, AND I DON'T KNOW, IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN DELAYED, BUT I THINK WE MAY HAVE ALREADY, WE MAY HAVE ALREADY SELECTED. I HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK THE DATES, BUT I THINK AT THE END OF THE, UH, LAST MONTH WE DID, UH, SELECT, SO WE'LL GET YOU MORE INFORMATION AS, AS WE GET THAT. UM, BUT IT IS MOVING FORWARD AT LEAST, UM, TRYING TO SELECT, UM, A SOLUTION FOR SOME OF THESE SITES. I CAN'T SAY THAT ALL THE SITES WILL HAVE THE SAME SOLUTION, BUT THERE MIGHT BE, UM, SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO, UM, TO, FOR COST REDUCTION AS WELL, BECAUSE IF WE WERE GOING OUT TO BID, UH, FOR AT THE SAME TIME, THAT REALLY WOULD PROBABLY HELP US AS FAR AS, UM, OUR AIRPORT FUNDS, UM, UH, PORTION OF THAT COST WOULD BE, UH, LOWERED. UM, IN THEORY. SO DO, DO WE KNOW IF THEY'RE GONNA, UH, ALLOW FOR, UM, A RENEWABLE FUEL OR, OR DIESEL TYPE, UH, UH, GENERATOR? IS THAT GONNA BE A, A POSSIBILITY? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. IT'LL ALL DEPEND ON, I GUESS KIND OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WE GET. THERE ARE SOME SITES THAT DON'T HAVE A LOT OF LAND SPACE, WHICH WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO BE SOMETHING MORE COMPACT WITH A RENEWABLES TYPE, UM, GENERATION SYSTEM. BUT, UM, I GUESS WE'LL FIND OUT, UM, THAT FOR SOME, SOME SITES THAT MAY BE THE ONLY OPTION. UM, OBVIOUSLY THE AIRPORT COULD HAVE OTHER OPTIONS. THEY JUST WOULD BE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE EXPENSIVE DEPENDING ON WHAT THEY WERE. SO WE'RE, WE'RE OPEN TO ALL SETS OF SORTS OF POSSIBILITIES AND WE'LL KIND OF WAIT TO SEE WHAT, WHAT KIND OF RECOMMENDATIONS WE GET. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THE QUICK QUESTION. YES. UH, HAVE WE HEARD BACK FROM THE FAA ON THE UPDATE TO THE, UH, MINIMUM STANDARDS YET? THEY HAVEN'T FINISHED REVIEWING IT, BUT THEY HAVEN'T YEAH, STILL WORKING IT, STILL STILL WORKING ON IT, BUT, UM, THE, THE, ONE OF THE LOCAL A DO OFFICES IS PUTTING PRESSURE, UH, FOR, FOR A REVIEW. SO THAT'S, AT LEAST THAT'S, UH, THE GOOD NEWS . YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I GUESS IN THE SAME VEIN FOR SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE AT THE FAA MM-HMM. IN THE PAST WE WERE, WERE WERE WAITING FOR ANSWERS. I MEAN, I, I, THE ONE I THINK OF IS, I GUESS A YEAR AGO, WAS IT A YEAR AGO WITH, UM, JOHN HALLS, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT WAS GOING THROUGH AND, YOU KNOW, WAS, IS THAT ALL TIED TO THE MINIMUM STANDARDS WHO WERE WAITING FOR THAT? YEAH, WE, WE WERE ASKED TO MAKE A REVISION, UH, TO OUR DRAFT, UH, THAT WE'D SUBMITTED TO THEM, UM, IN REGARDS TO, UM, THE, A SITUATION WHERE, UH, A AIRCRAFT OWNER WAS NOT ABLE TO FIND A CONTRACTOR THAT MET THE CITY'S STANDARDS. AND SO AS A KIND [01:30:01] OF A SAFETY EXEMPTION, IT EXEMPTS CERTAIN ACTIVITY THAT WOULD MAKE THAT AIRCRAFT SAFE TO, TO RELOCATE TO ANOTHER AIRPORT IN OUR LOCATION. UM, SO THAT'S WHERE WE LEFT IT. WE SENT THAT REVISION BACK. UM, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THAT WAS ONE OF THE LAST THINGS THAT NEED TO BE REVIEWED AND UM, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANYTHING THAT WOULD STOP THAT, UM, PARTICULAR PART 13 FROM CLOSING. SO I THINK THAT IS THE INTENT OF THE, UH, THE EDO OFFICE THAT'S PROCESSING THAT WOULD BE TO, UH, CLOSE THAT AS, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. BUT WE'VE GIVEN JUST FOR, WE'VE GIVEN, UH, THE FA EVERYTHING THEY'VE ASKED FOR THAT, I'LL MAKE THAT CLEAR. OKAY. THERE'S NOTHING THAT WE'RE, WE OWE THEM AT THIS POINT AND SURE, SURE. WE, WE WAIT, WE WAIT FOR THEIR TIMETABLE. YEAH, THEIR TIMETABLE. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. JUST FOR CONTEXT, UM, THEIR APPLICATIONS HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THAT. IT'S A MINIMUM OF TWO YEARS BEFORE YOUR APPLICATION EVEN GETS TO THE TOP OF THE PILE FOR THEM TO EVEN START LOOKING AT IT. SO IT'S A UNIVERSAL FAA PROBLEM RIGHT NOW BUREAUCRACY THAT IT'S FINE. YEAH. OKAY. ALRIGHT. ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS WE CLOSE OUT? WE SHOULD, I, I DON'T HAVE IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. WITH THAT, UH, AS OUR LAST AGENDA, MY, THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ADJOURNED, SO IT IS NOW SEVEN THIRTY TWO AND I'LL CALL THE MEETING ADJOURNED. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.