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          AND GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME 
          [CALL TO ORDER]
TO THE REGULAR MEETING, THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE FOR THURSDAY, MAY 30TH, 2024. 
          WOULD YOU PLEASE TAKE ROLE COMMITTEE MEMBER COLD IRON HERE. 
          COMMITTEE MEMBER MERAN HERE. 
          COMMITTEE MEMBER BELTWAY HERE. 
          COMMITTEE MEMBER DIGS HERE. 
          COMMITTEE MEMBER RIZZO SIMMONS. 
          ABSENT CHAIR SMITH. 
          TODAY, WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT OUR CITY OF PETALUMA COMMITTEE WORK INVOLVES THE UNSEATED LAND THAT IS THE ANCESTRAL HOMELANDS OF THE COAST, MINOK PEOPLE. 
          WE WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS OUR GRATITUDE AND APPRECIATION TO THOSE WHO STEWARDED AND CONTINUE TO STEWARD THIS LAND. 
          WE PAY OUR RESPECTS TO THE PAST, PRESENT, AND EMERGING ELDERS AND CITIZENS OF THE COMMUNITY OF THE COAST ME WALK AND INVITE THEM TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS COMMITTEE'S COMMUNITY WORK HERE. 
          DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY GENERAL COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING. 
          WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING. 
          THANKS. 
          APPRECIATE THAT. 
          AND SO WE WERE, WE WERE MOVING ON TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          WITH THAT NOTICE AND UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE'S NO ONE IN THE ROOM, WE WILL CLOSE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT AND WE'LL ALSO NOTE THAT THERE WILL BE NO PRESENTATIONS THIS EVENING. 
          AND THAT WILL BRING US TO AGENDA 
          [APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
ITEM NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES. 
          ARE THERE ANY AMENDMENTS PROPOSED BY ANY OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS FOR MINUTES FROM LAST MEETING? SEE NO AMENDMENTS? WE WILL APPROVE THE MINUTES AS PUBLISHED AND CLOSE. 
          AGENDA ITEM ONE, MOVE ON TO AGENDA 
          [PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION]
ITEM TWO, WHICH IS, UM, WE ARE GONNA RECEIVE A STAFF PRESENTATION AND DISCUSS THE DRAFT ARTS, CULTURE AND CREATIVITY POLICY FRAMEWORK. 
          THAT'S PART OF THE FOUNDATIONAL WORK FOR THE GENERAL PLAN UPDATE. 
          AND SO WE'LL INVITE, UH, PUBLIC ARTS SPECIALISTS, MELISSA ABERCROMBIE, SPECIAL PROJECTS MANAGER, HEATHER HINES AND RAYMOND ASSOCIATES, UH, RON WHITMORE, WHO'S I THINK COMING IN REMOTELY, UH, TO PRESENT THIS ITEM. 
          WE WILL, UM, HEAR FROM, UH, HEAR FROM THAT GROUP. 
          THEN WE WILL ASK SPECIFIC CLARIFYING QUESTIONS AS A COMMITTEE. 
          WE'LL OPEN IT TO, UM, PUBLIC COMMENT AFTER THAT. 
          AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO FOR A GROUP DISCUSSION. 
          GREAT. 
          UH, GOOD EVENING. 
          MY NAME IS HEATHER HINES. 
          I'M A SPECIAL PROJECTS MANAGER FOR THE CITY. 
          AND I'M GONNA KICK IT OFF AND THEN HAND IT TO, UM, MY COLLEAGUES THAT ARE JOINING REMOTELY FROM IAN ASSOCIATES AND CULTURAL PLANNING GROUP, UM, WHO ARE THE PRIME SUB, UH, OR THE PRIME CONSULTANT THAT'S BEEN WORKING ON THE GENERAL PLAN AS WELL AS THE SUB CONSULTANT, SPECIFICALLY FOCUSED ON ARTS AND CULTURE. 
          UM, SO, UM, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING. 
          UM, I KNOW IT'S NOT A REGULAR MEETING, BUT WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO, HOPEFULLY, AS YOU KNOW, , WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF UPDATING OUR GENERAL PLAN. 
          AND SO I ALWAYS LIKE TO START WITH JUST A FEW WORDS ABOUT WHAT A GENERAL PLAN IS. 
          UM, SO IT IS REALLY OUR COMMUNITY SHARED VISION FOR HOW WE WANT TO GROW AND CHANGE OVER THE NEXT ABOUT 20 YEARS. 
          UM, SO IT'S A LONG-TERM DOCUMENT AND IT'S REALLY THERE TO, IT'S A KIND OF A 30,000 FOOT, UM, VISION DOCUMENT FOR HOW WE WANT TO EVOLVE. 
          AND IT IS THE GUIDING DOCUMENT FOR, UM, MANY OTHER THINGS SUCH AS OUR ORDINANCES, OUR ZONING CODE, OUR OUR CIP, OUR OUR ROADS PROJECTS, ALL OF THAT KIND OF STUFF. 
          IT ALWAYS LOOKS BACK UP TO WHAT WE HAVE AS THAT SHARED VISION IN OUR GENERAL PLAN. 
          UM, SO, UH, IT ADDRESSES A, A SERIES OF DIFFERENT TOPICS, ARTS AND CULTURE BEING ONE OF THEM. 
          UM, SOME OF THE EXAMPLES KIND OF WHY, WHY SHOULD WE CARE? HOW'S IT IMPACT, UM, EVERYBODY, UH, IT TALKS ABOUT HOUSING, IT TALKS ABOUT JOBS. 
          UM, IT IS A BIG PART OF REDUCING GREENHOUSE GAS REDUCTION AND OTHER, UM, CLIMATE INITIATIVES THAT THE CITY HAS COMMITTED TO, UH, OPEN SPACE AND PARKS, WHICH WE USE. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, WHERE OUR KIDS PLAY, WHERE WE, WE GET THAT BREAK FROM, UM, OUR DAY AND THE, AND THE PEACE. 
          UM, IT ALSO SETS US UP TO BE DEALING 
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WITH THE HAZARDS THAT WE FACE, SUCH AS WILDFIRE AND FLOODS. 
          IT SETS OUT TO HAVE EQUITY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL PETALUMA. 
          UM, AND IT KIND OF TO THE POINT OF THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE, IT REALLY LOOKS AT OUR CULTURE. 
          UM, SO IT LOOKS AT OUR CHARACTER, LOCAL CULTURE PRESERVATION, AND AS WELL AS COMMUNITY PARTICIPATION IN OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT. 
          SO WE CURRENTLY, OUR GENERAL PLAN WAS ADOPTED IN 2008, AND THE VISION FOR THAT GENERAL PLAN WAS THROUGH 2025. 
          SO AS WE GOT STARTED GETTING CLOSER TO THAT, THAT TIME PERIOD, WE INITIATED, UM, AN EFFORT TO UPDATE THAT, TO MAKE IT CONSISTENT WITH WHERE WE ARE AS A COMMUNITY, CHECKING IN WITH WHAT OUR GOALS ARE, WHAT OUR OBJECTIVES ARE, AND THAT SHARED VISION. 
          SO IN 2020, WE STARTED TO KICK OFF THAT PROCESS AND THEN WE BROUGHT RAMEY AND ASSOCIATES ON IN 2021, UM, TO START THE PROCESS. 
          SO, AND HERE WE ARE IN 2024, SO WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS. 
          UM, IT'S AN EXCITING TIME FOR THIS UPDATE. 
          UM, WE'RE REALLY GETTING INTO SOME, UM, NITTY GRITTY AND THE, AND THE POLICIES KIND OF PUTTING THINGS INTO ACTION, THAT VISION INTO ACTION. 
          UM, WE ARE ALSO CONCURRENTLY WORKING ON A CLIMATE ACTION PLAN, WHICH IS THE BLUEPRINT FOR CARBON NEUTRALITY. 
          SO HOPEFULLY YOU ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH THAT AS WELL. 
          AND THAT IS SETTING OUT, UM, ACTIONS FOR GETTING US TO CLIMATE OR CARBON NEUTRALITY. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          AND SO MY FINAL SLIDE IS REALLY JUST TO LOOK AT THE, THE ROADMAP, THE WHERE WE, WHERE WE'VE BEEN FROM PROJECT INITIATION TO WHERE WE ARE NOW, KIND OF AT THE TAIL END OF POLICY DEVELOPMENT AND MOVING INTO LAND USE ALTERNATIVES ALONG THE WAY. 
          WE HAVE, UM, DRAFTED, ADOPTED AND CERTIFIED OUR HOUSING ELEMENT FOR THIS NEXT EIGHT, EIGHT YEAR CYCLE AND RELEASED THE BLUEPRINT FOR CARBON NEUTRALITY. 
          SO THERE'S BEEN SOME KIND OF ADJACENT, UM, DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE COME OUT OF THIS EFFORT. 
          UM, AND THEN WE ARE HEADED TOWARDS, UM, ADOPTION AT THE END OF 2025. 
          AND ALONG WITH THAT, WE ARE GOING TO BE WORKING ON A COMPREHENSIVE ZONING CODE UPDATE. 
          SO THAT WILL BE THE REGULATIONS THAT WILL IMPLEMENT THE GENERAL PLAN THAT WE HOPE TO HAVE KIND OF STARTING HERE SOON TO DO SOME OF THAT WORK SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THAT ADOPTED SOON AFTER OR NOT, OR CONCURRENTLY WITH THE GENERAL PLAN. 
          SO WITH THAT, I'M GONNA HAND IT OVER TO RON WHITMORE, PRINCIPAL WITH IAN ASSOCIATES TO, UM, TAKE US THROUGH THE NEXT FEW SLIDES. 
          RON. 
          THANK YOU HEATHER, AND GOOD EVENING, UH, COMMISSIONERS. 
          UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE PETALUMA COMMUNITY AND, UH, ALSO FOR GIVING US TIME ON YOUR AGENDA THIS EVENING. 
          UM, WE HAVE BEEN INTRODUCING VARIOUS PUBLIC DRAFT POLICY FRAMEWORKS TO ALL OF THE COMMITTEES, COMMISSIONS, AND BOARDS AROUND THE CITY, AND HAVE FOUND IT TO BE SOME OF THE MOST USEFUL AND VALUABLE AND GROUNDED INPUT AND FEEDBACK WE'VE GOTTEN ON THESE DRAFT FRAMEWORKS. 
          SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, FEEDBACK. 
          IT'S REALLY HELPING US REFINE THESE, UM, AND MAKE SURE THEY TRULY REFLECT, UM, ON THE GROUND REALITY AS WELL AS THE VISION THAT THE COMPELLING STRATEGIC VISION THE COMMUNITY HAS FOR ITSELF. 
          UM, SO BUILDING ON THE CONTEXT THAT HEATHER SHARED, I'M GONNA SAY JUST A BIT ABOUT WHAT THESE POLICY FRAMEWORKS ARE AND THEIR RELATIONSHIP TO THE, UM, A THE GENERAL PLAN THAT WE WILL DEVELOP AS THE NEXT STEP AFTER WE COMPLETE THIS PHASE, AS WELL AS THE LAND USE ALTERNATIVES PHASE. 
          UM, SO THESE ARE REALLY A FOUNDATIONAL PIECE, KIND OF A STARTING POINT, AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET ON PAPER, INITIAL THOUGHTS ON THE GOALS, THE POLICIES AND INITIAL SET OF ACTIONS THAT WILL SERVE AS THE STARTING POINT FOR THAT GENERAL PLAN. 
          UM, IT IS NOT THE GENERAL PLAN ITSELF. 
          UM, IT IS A STARTING POINT FOR CLARIFYING WHAT THE GENERAL PLAN PLAN MIGHT SAY AND DO. 
          UM, AND JUST A, SOME OF THE TERMS HERE ARE USEFUL AND UNDERSTAND, UM, IN CASE YOU'RE WONDERING ABOUT THE WORDING OR PHRASING OF CERTAIN THINGS. 
          BUT REALLY, GOALS ARE DESIGNED TO EXPRESS, UH, OUTCOMES. 
          THEY DESCRIBE THE FUTURE AND IN THAT WAY CAN BE THOUGHT OF AS AN ELEMENT OF THE VISION DIFFERENTLY. 
          UH, POLICIES TYPICALLY START WITH A VERB AND ARE DESIGNED TO BE A CLEAR STATEMENT OF INTENT OR DIRECTION. 
          AND HEATHER MENTIONED EARLIER 
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THAT ON A REGULAR BASIS, CITY STAFF POLICY MAKERS REFER TO THE GENERAL PLAN WHEN THINKING ABOUT KEY DECISIONS AND PRIORITIES. 
          AND, UM, AND IT'S THESE POLICY STATEMENTS THAT VERY OFTEN WILL INFORM, UM, DECISIONS DOWN THE FU DOWN THE ROAD, WHETHER THEY'RE BUDGET DECISIONS OR LAND USE DECISIONS OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. 
          ACTIONS IN TURN ARE OFTEN MORE SPECIFIC. 
          UM, ACTIVITIES, PROGRAMS, PROJECTS THAT ARE NEEDED TO TRULY FULFILL THE GOALS, UM, AND OR MOVE IN THE DIRECTION CLEARLY ESTABLISHED IN THE POLICIES. 
          UM, JUST WANNA STRESS THAT A TREMENDOUS, THAT THESE FRAMEWORKS BUILD ON A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK DONE PREVIOUSLY. 
          AND THIS IS RELATED TO THE ROADMAP THAT HEATHER SHARED, BUT REALLY WANNA STRESS THAT WE DIDN'T PULL THESE GOALS AND POLICIES JUST OUT OF THE AIR. 
          THEY'RE VERY MUCH GROUNDED IN THE KEY FINDINGS FROM THE EXISTING CONDITIONS WORK, WHICH WE DID AS ONE OF THE, UH, EARLY PHASES OF THE PROJECT. 
          AND DAVID WILL SAY MORE ABOUT WHICH KEY FINDINGS FROM THE, THE EXISTING CONDITIONS ANALYSIS INFORMED THE PUBLIC ART, OR EXCUSE ME, THE ARTS, UH, POLICY FRAMEWORK SPECIFICALLY. 
          LIKEWISE, THE OTHER KIND OF KEY DRIVER FOR THESE WAS ALL OF THE INITIAL COMMUNITY INPUT WE GOT, WHICH IN TURN INFORMED THE CLEAR VISION STATEMENT PILLARS AND GUIDING PRINCIPLES THAT THE GENERAL PLAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE DEVELOPED. 
          AND THAT WAS, UH, ACCEPTED BY CITY COUNCIL. 
          THAT VERY MUCH IS OUR KIND OF, YOU KNOW, COMPASS FOR EVERYTHING WE'VE DONE WITH THE GENERAL PLAN SINCE THEN. 
          AND SO THAT, THAT'S THE OTHER MAJOR FOUNDATIONAL PIECE THAT, THAT DROVE OUR THINKING ABOUT THESE DRAFT GOALS AND POLICIES. 
          AND THEN, UM, BUILDING AGAIN, ALSO ON WHAT HEATHER MENTIONED, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR SOME TIME. 
          WE STARTED BACK, UH, ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, ACTUALLY, UH, A LITTLE, LITTLE LESS THAN TWO YEARS AGO WITH SOME STRATEGY DISCUSSIONS AMONGST OUR CONSULTANT TEAMS, CITY STAFF, AND THE GPAC REALLY THINKING ABOUT, OKAY, GIVEN WHAT WE KNOW, UH, AND ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AND THE VISION WE HAVE, WHAT IS IT WE NEED TO DO FOR EACH OF THESE TOPICS? AND OUT OF THOSE BRAINSTORMING CREATIVE SESSIONS, WE PUT THAT DOWN ON PAPER AND INITIAL DRAFT POLICY SET OF FRAMEWORKS, DISCUSS THOSE, UH, EXTENSIVELY WITH CITY STAFF AND THEN BASED ON CITY STAFF, PRODUCE THE PUBLIC DRAFT FRAMEWORKS THAT YOU HAVE THAT THE PUBLIC HAS, UH, AVAILABLE FOR REVIEW AT THIS POINT. 
          UM, AND THEN THESE, JUST SO YOU KNOW, AFTER WE COMPLETE THIS PUBLIC REVIEW PERIOD THROUGH JUNE, THE GENERAL PLAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AS WELL AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WILL EACH MAKE EACH, EACH MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL, WHO WILL THEN PROVIDE US A POLICY DIRECTION ON, UM, ON WHAT WE MIGHT REVISE, CHANGE, CLARIFY AS WE SHIFT FROM POLICY FRAMEWORKS TO CRAFTING THE ACTUAL GENERAL PLAN. 
          THERE ARE 14 OF THESE 13 ARE CURRENTLY PUBLISHED. 
          WE'RE STILL PUTTING THE FINISHING TOUCHES ON THE LAND USE POLICY FRAMEWORK. 
          UM, AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY THE WAY THE GENERAL PLAN ITSELF WILL BE ORGANIZED. 
          WE WANTED TO ALLOW OUR SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS, BOTH ON THE CITY SIDE AND OUR CONSULTANT TEAM TO KIND OF STAY IN THEIR LANE, IN THEIR AREA OF EXPERTISE INITIALLY. 
          UM, AND SO THIS LARGER, WE REFLECTS THAT. 
          UM, AND SO, AND THE OTHER PIECE I'D LIKE TO EMPHASIZE HERE IS THERE'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF INTERCONNECTION AND OVERLAP BETWEEN MANY OF THESE. 
          AND SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A PARTICULAR TOPIC OR SUBTOPIC AND YOU DON'T SEE IT INIT IN THE INIT IN THE FRAMEWORK THAT YOU INITIALLY WOULD EXPECT TO, IT'S VERY LIKELY IT LANDED SOMEWHERE ELSE. 
          IT WAS SOMETIMES DIFFICULT TO DECIDE WHERE BEST TO PUT THINGS. 
          UM, AND SOMETIMES IT JUST HAD TO BE AN ARBITRARY DECISION. 
          UM, BUT HAPPY TO HELP PEOPLE NAVIGATE OR FIND PARTICULAR TOPICS OR SUBTOPICS THEY'RE LOOKING FOR. 
          AND THEN ONE OTHER FINAL NOTE, I JUST WANNA STRESS, AND I MENTIONED IT BEFORE, THE GENERAL PLAN WILL BE VERY DIFFERENT. 
          UM, WE RECOGNIZE THAT THESE POLICY FRAMEWORKS ARE VERY DRY, UM, VERY TEXTUAL, VERY, VERY LIMITED GRAPHICS AND IMAGES, UM, THAT WAS DONE INTENTIONALLY. 
          WE, WE WANTED TO FOCUS REALLY ON THE LANGUAGE, UM, AND GET THOSE IN FRONT OF, GET THAT IN FRONT OF PEOPLE. 
          THE GENERAL PLAN WILL BE VERY DIFFERENT IN THAT IT'LL PROBABLY HAVE A VERY SHORT, CONCISE, VISUALLY COMPELLING FRONT END THAT'S KIND OF THE PUBLIC FACING PART OF IT, WHICH WILL SHOW HOW EVERYTHING CONNECTS AS WELL. 
          THAT, AGAIN, WITH THESE SILOED TOPICS, IT DOESN'T, WE DON'T ALWAYS SEE VERY WELL THE CONNECTIONS AMONGST SOME OF THESE, UH, TOPIC-BASED FRAMEWORKS. 
          BUT THE GENERAL PLAN WILL, WILL BE VERY DIFFERENT IN THAT REGARD. 
          WE ALSO SUSPECT IT'LL BE ORGANIZED DIFFERENTLY. 
          WE DON'T 
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THINK THIS IS ALL THE ELEMENTS OR THE CHAPTERS WILL BE THE SAME AS THESE 14. 
          WE ALSO KNOW THERE'S MANY TOPICS ARE INCLUDED THAT ARE THEMES THAT CUT ACROSS MANY OTHER DIFFERENT TOPICS. 
          AND SO WE'RE GONNA FOR, IN THOSE CASES, UH, FIND WAYS TO SHOW HOW THOSE THEMES, UH, RUN ACROSS THE GP AND HELP PEOPLE SEE IT THROUGH THOSE PARTICULAR LENSES, IF, IF THAT'S THEIR PARTICULAR INTEREST. 
          UM, LIKEWISE, THESE WILL BE VERY IMPLEMENTATION ORIENTED, AND SO WE'LL HAVE THEM WITH SOME OF THE PRIMARY USERS, LIKE CITY STAFF IN MIND, VERY MUCH AS WE THINK ABOUT HOW TO ORGANIZE IT, UH, TO EASE IMPLEMENTATION. 
          THERE WILL ALSO BE A DIGITAL VERSION OF IT. 
          AND IF YOU HAVE A FEW MOMENTS, I'D SUGGEST JUMPING ON THE SOUTH SAN FRANCISCO, UH, WEBSITE. 
          IT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE OF A, THE POWER OF A DIGITAL GENERAL PLAN THAT REALLY ALLOWS YOU TO ACCESS THE GP FROM A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES. 
          IT CAN BE, YOU CAN JUST HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT A PARTICULAR TOPIC LIKE CLIMATE AND, AND SEE QUICKLY ALL THE RELATED POLICIES, OR YOU CAN REVIEW IT BY CHAPTER WHAT HOWEVER YOU PREFER. 
          AND WE HAVE HAVE PLANS TO DO SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR FOR PETALUMA. 
          AND THEN IT'S ALSO GONNA BE MUCH MORE IMPLEMENTATION FOCUSED. 
          WE HAVE BEGUN TO IDENTIFY SOME ACTIONS IN THESE POLICY FRAMEWORKS. 
          IT'S PROBABLY NOT YET A COMPLETE LIST BY ANY MEANS. 
          PLUS WE WILL VERY MUCH ORGANIZE THE PLAN, HAVE A SEPARATE ACTION MATRIX, WHICH WILL BE SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED TO SUPPORT AND FACILITATE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE GENERAL PLAN, CLEARLY IDENTIFYING DIFFERENT ROLES THAT THE COMMUNITY, CITY STAFF, ET CETERA, HAVE IN IMPLEMENTATION. 
          AND THEN FINALLY, THERE'LL BE TWO WAYS TO TRACK PROGRESS. 
          ONE WILL BE MONITORING THAT ACTION, UH, MATRIX, AND ALSO A SET OF INDICATORS THAT WE'LL USE, UH, TO CREATE A METRICS, A PERFORMANCE METRICS DASHBOARD. 
          YOU DON'T SEE THOSE YET IN THIS DRAFT. 
          MANY PEOPLE HAVE ASKED ABOUT LIKE, WHERE AM WHERE IS MY LIKE CLEAR TARGET, CONCRETE TARGET FOR ACHIEVING X, Y, AND Z. 
          WE'VE BEGAN IDENTIFYING SOME OF THOSE BUT DIDN'T YET WANNA INCLUDE THEM IN THE POLICY FRAMEWORKS. 
          'CAUSE WE KNOW THAT THESE ARE GONNA CHANGE AND MORPH BASED ON FEEDBACK, BUT THEY CERTAINLY WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE DRAFT GENERAL PLAN. 
          JUST A FEW WORDS ABOUT HOW TO PROVIDE INPUT. 
          UM, I BELIEVE YOU'VE BEEN GIVEN COPIES OF THESE FRAMEWORK REVIEW FORMS, AND THAT IS OUR PREFERRED LANGUAGE TO RECEIVE YOUR FEEDBACK. 
          IN ADDITION, OBVIOUSLY TO, UH, VERBAL COMMENT YOU SHARE TONIGHT. 
          UM, AND WE DO ASK THAT IF YOU'RE GONNA USE THAT AND COMPLETE THE FORMS THAT YOU SUBMIT THEM BACK TO, THE PROJECT TEAM CAN BE VIA YOUR LIAISON BY JUNE 7TH, WHICH IS, UH, COMING UP VERY QUICKLY. 
          UM, LIKEWISE, JUST WANNA NOTE THAT THERE'S BEEN LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES TO LEARN ABOUT THESE. 
          WE'RE AT THE TAIL END OF THIS LONG SERIES OF CCB MEETINGS. 
          WE ALSO HAD A BIG COMMUNITY PLANNING FESTIVAL ON MAY 11TH, AND THEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND GPAC ARE HAVING A SERIES OF MEETINGS, WHICH ARE ALSO OPPORTUNITIES TO LEARN MORE AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON EACH OF THE POLICY FRAMEWORKS. 
          AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR TAKING, GIVING US TIME ON YOUR AGENDA TONIGHT TO DISCUSS THIS. 
          UM, THE WEBSITE ALSO HAS LOTS OF INFORMATION ABOUT THE FRAMEWORKS. 
          YOU CAN DOWNLOAD EACH OF THEM THERE. 
          UM, YOU CAN PROVIDE COMMENT, UH, THROUGH AN ONLINE, UH, FEEDBACK FORM AS WELL. 
          AND, AND DO THAT AS MANY TIMES AS YOU LIKE FOR AS MANY OF THE FRAMEWORKS THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN. 
          WE RECOGNIZE THAT YOUR INTERESTS PROBABLY EXTEND JUST BEYOND PUBLIC ART. 
          UM, SO WELCOME, YOU, WELCOME AND INVITE YOU TO DO THAT FOR OTHER TOPICS THAT INTEREST YOU. 
          AND THEN ALSO AS WE'VE BEEN DOING THESE PRESENTATIONS, UM, WE'VE BEEN RECORDING THEM AND THEN POSTING THE, THE RECORDINGS ONLINE SO THE PEOPLE WHO MISS CERTAIN MEETINGS ARE JUST, ARE INTERESTED IN GETTING A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE FRAMEWORKS. 
          THEY CAN DO THAT BY, UH, WATCHING THESE VIDEOS. 
          UH, AND HERE'S THE LINK TO THE, UH, FEEDBACK FORM. 
          THAT'S IT FOR ME. 
          I'M NOW GONNA PASS IT TO, UH, DAVID FROM, UM, CULTURAL PLANNING GROUP, UM, WHO ARE ONE OF THE BEST CONSULTANTS IN THE FIELD, UM, AND THAT HELP TO HELP COMMUNITIES TRANSLATE THEIR ARTS CULTURE AND CREATIVITY, VISION AND GOALS INTO, UM, CONCRETE, UM, GENERAL PLAN ELEMENTS. 
          AND SO YOU'RE LUCKY TO HAVE, UH, CPG AND WE'RE LUCKY TO HAVE DAVID WITH US HERE TONIGHT. 
          AT THIS POINT POINT, I'LL PASS IT OFF TO HIM AND HE'LL GIVE YOU A VERY HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF THE FRAMEWORK AND THEN WE'LL SHIFT TO QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSION. 
          DAVID, THANK YOU RON, UM, FOR YOUR KIND INTRODUCTION. 
          UM, CAN I, UM, I SEE YOU AS VERY, VERY TINY FIGURES IN A TILE. 
          CAN I GET A HANDS UP OR A THUMBS UP THAT YOU CAN HEAR ME? AND GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WONDERFUL. 
          SO I, YOU KNOW, RON AND HEATHER TALKED ABOUT HOW THE GENERAL PLAN HAS UNFOLDED AND THEY SHOWED THE LITERALLY A WINDING ROAD TO GET TO TONIGHT, TO TONIGHT'S MEETING. 
          I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT OUR FILES AND WE LAST PRESENTED TO YOU IN JUNE OF 2021. 
          SO IT'S BEEN ALMOST THREE FULL YEARS, UH, SINCE WE HAD THE CHANCE TO TALK WITH 
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YOU ABOUT THIS, UM, FOR US ALL IMPORTANT ARTS, CULTURE AND CREATIVITY, UM, ELEMENT OF THE GENERAL PLAN. 
          AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THAT MEETING, UH, IN JUNE OF 2021 WAS FULL OF YOUR COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS, AND THEY REALLY HELPED US SHAPE THE EXISTING CONDITIONS REPORT THAT WE WERE WORKING ON AT THAT TIME. 
          AND MANY OF THOSE IDEAS HAVE BEEN CARRIED FORWARD INTO THIS DRAFT, UH, POLICY FRAMEWORK. 
          THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA DO JUST A FEW SLIDES FROM THE EXISTING CONDITIONS REPORT, UH, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY A KIND OF SITUATIONAL ANALYSIS, AND IT'LL HELP SET THE STAGE FOR THE GOALS AND POLICIES WE'LL LOOK AT IN A MOMENT. 
          AND THE FIRST THING WE WANTED TO START WITH IS THE CREATIVE IDENTITY OF YOUR COMMUNITY. 
          YOU KNOW, PETALUMA IS VERY MUCH AN ARTS AND CREATIVE PLACE, AND ONCE WE KIND OF GOT OUR SLEEVES ROLLED UP AND TALKED TO ENOUGH OF YOU AND DID ENOUGH DATA RESEARCH, WE, WE REALIZED THAT, UM, PETALUMA IS A, IS A REMARKABLE CREATIVE COMMUNITY. 
          WE'LL LOOK AT SOME FACTS AND FIGURES IN A MOMENT, BUT, UM, PART OF WHAT MAKES YOU SPECIAL AND DISTINGUISHES YOU IS THE STRONG PRESENCE OF INDIVIDUAL CREATIVES, YOU KNOW, ARTISTS, MAKERS, ARTISANS, UH, CREATIVE ENTREPRENEURS WORKING BOTH IN THE FINE ARTS SECTOR, BUT ALSO IN COMMERCIAL ART FORMS. AND, UM, SO IT'S, YOUR CREATIVE IDENTITY IS MUCH MORE ABOUT CREATIVE CREATIVITY ON AN INDIVIDUAL LEVEL AND MAYBE A SMALL BUSINESS LEVEL, BUT MUCH LESS ABOUT INSTITUTIONS. 
          YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WORKED IN PASADENA, CALIFORNIA, FOR EXAMPLE, IT'S, UM, A SMALL CITY THAT HAS AN UNUSUAL NUMBER OF LARGE INSTITUTIONS, YOU KNOW, UM, JPL CALTECH. 
          UM, AND, AND PETALUMA IS KIND OF ON THE OPPOSITE END OF THE SCALE. 
          IT'S YOUR INDIVIDUALS. 
          IT'S THE CREATIVE PEOPLE THAT HELP DEFINE YOUR CREATIVE IDENTITY. 
          ALSO, ARTS ARE, UM, NOT AS ONLY A STANDALONE THING. 
          IN PETALUMA, WE NOTICED THAT THE ARTS ARE OFTEN INTEGRATED INTO, UH, COMMUNITY EVENTS THAT ARE MORE THAN ARTS EVENTS, BUT INCLUDE ARTS OR CREATIVITY OR CULTURE AS AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT. 
          AND I THINK YOU CAN SEE ON THIS BLACK LIVES MATTER SLIDE THAT ARE, ARE INDEED INTEGRATED INTO OTHER THINGS LIKE PROTESTS AND SOCIAL JUSTICE. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          SO, UH, THERE WE GO. 
          WE DID AN ARTS MARKET STUDY AS A PART OF THE EXISTING CONDITION SUPPORT. 
          THESE ARE FROM 2021, BUT WE SHOWED, NOT SURPRISINGLY, THERE IS STRONG DEMAND FOR ARTS AND CULTURAL, UM, EXPERIENCES BOTH IN THE CITY AND WITHIN A 30 MINUTE DRIVE TIME. 
          SO YOU'LL SEE A LITTLE LATER ON IN THE PRESENTATION, WE TALK ABOUT PETALUMA SETTING, UH, A GOAL OF BEING A REGIONAL CREATIVE CENTER, KIND OF OWNING THAT IDENTITY MORE THAN IT DOES NOW. 
          ALSO, UH, AS YOU FOLKS OF ALL OF ALL PEOPLE KNOW, CITY GOVERNMENT HAS HAD A LONGSTANDING INVOLVEMENT IN THE ARTS, BUT IT'S BEEN LIMITED TO THE PUBLIC ART PROGRAM AND THE PART-TIME STAFF POSITION. 
          THAT IS YOUR, UH, LIAISON, UH, MELISSA, UM, TO ADMINISTER THE PUBLIC ART PROGRAM. 
          THERE ARE ALSO SOME, UM, PROGRAMS THROUGH THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, BUT PETALUMA HAS, AS A CITY GOVERNMENT, HAS BEEN PRIMARILY DEFINED BY ITS PUBLIC ART PROGRAM. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE THE MAP, UM, ON THIS SLIDE, WHICH MIRRORS THE MAP ON YOUR, UH, PUBLIC ART WEBSITE WITH THE, AT THAT TIME, UH, 28 PIECE COLLECTION, UM, IN A DOT MAP SHOWING MOST OF IT CONCENTRATED DOWNTOWN. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          NOW, ONCE WE GOT STARTED, WE REALIZED THIS SHOULDN'T BE ONLY AN ARTS AND CULTURE ELEMENT. 
          IT NEEDED TO ALSO BE A CREATIVE ECONOMY ELEMENT. 
          YOU HAVE MORE THAN 200 CREATIVE BUSINESSES IN PETALUMA. 
          UM, YOU CAN SEE THE DOTS EVERYWHERE ON THIS MAP. 
          UM, CREATIVE EMPLOYMENT MAKES UP FULLY 10% OF ALL JOBS IN PETALUMA. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE, UH, A WHOLE GAMUT OF TYPES OF CREATIVE BUSINESSES, OF CREATIVE INDUSTRIES REPRESENTED EVEN IN YOUR RELATIVELY SMALL CITY. 
          YOU KNOW, THERE'S A ROBUST DESIGN COMMUNITY, UM, ARTS-BASED RETAIL BUSINESSES, WINERIES AND BREWERIES, OF COURSE RECORDING STUDIOS AND, AND ART STUDIOS AND ON. 
          AND WE NOTICED THAT THERE WERE AT 
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LEAST INDICATIONS THAT, UM, MANY OF YOUR ARTS BUSINESSES ARE, UH, SERVING, YOU KNOW, A LOCAL, LOCAL CLIENTELE OF A LOCAL MARKET, BUT OTHERS ARE REGIONAL, NATIONAL, OR, OR EVEN INTERNATIONAL IN SCOPE. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          THIS SLIDE COMES BACK TO SOMETHING RON SAID A MOMENT AGO. 
          HE TALKED ABOUT THE INTERCONNECTEDNESS OF ELEMENTS OF THE GENERAL PLAN AND THAT THE, EVENTUALLY THE GENERAL PLAN WILL BETTER REFLECT THOSE INTERCONNECTIONS. 
          THIS SLIDE IS SIMILAR IN ONE RESPECT. 
          IT REPRESENTS THE VISION PILLARS AND GUIDING PRINCIPLES DEFINED, UH, OVERALL FOR THE GENERAL PLAN IN PETALUMA. 
          AND THIS SLIDE CALLS OUT SPECIFIC ELEMENTS OF THE VISION PRINCIPLES AND SO FORTH THAT, UM, RELATE MORE STRONGLY TO ARTS AND CULTURE AND, UH, CREATIVITY MORE BROADLY DEFINED. 
          WON'T GO THROUGH IT ALL, BUT I THINK YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THE BASIC IDEA THAT ARTS AND CULTURE ARE A VITAL PARTNER IN MANY DIFFERENT ELEMENTS OF CIVIC LIFE. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          HERE ARE THE SEVEN GOALS, UM, OF THE ARTS, CULTURE AND CREATIVITY, UH, POLICY FRAMEWORK. 
          AS RON MENTIONED, THE GOALS REPRESENT, UM, KIND OF VISION STATEMENTS, THE END RESULT WE WANNA SEE HAPPEN AS A RESULT OF IMPLEMENTING THE GENERAL PLAN IN THIS AREA. 
          AND LET'S, UH, TAKE A LOOK AT EACH ONE OF THESE SEVEN. 
          SO THE FIRST IS ABOUT, UH, THE ROLE OF ARTISTS AND CITY PROGRAMS AND PROCESSES. 
          NOW ARTISTS ARE ALREADY A PART OF CITY GOVERNMENT IN SOME RESPECTS. 
          YOU COMMISSION ARTISTS TO BE A PART OF, UM, CITY CIP PROJECTS, AND OF COURSE, AS A PART OF PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS IN THE CITY. 
          UM, YOU CAN SEE POLICY 1.3. 
          WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT PRACTICE EXPANDED AND ARTISTS INVOLVED IN RESIDENCIES WORKING WITHIN CITY GOVERNMENT. 
          UM, ONE ABOVE THAT, 1.2, UH, IS A POLICY TO ENCOURAGE AMATEUR OR COMMUNITY-BASED, UH, ART ACT, ARTS ACTIVITY AND POLICY 1.5. 
          YOU ALREADY HAVE, UH, THE ARTS AS A MANDATED PORTION OF CITY AND PRIVATE REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. 
          THIS POLICY LOOKS TO BROADEN THAT TO, UH, ENCOMPASS ALL CITY RFPS AND RF QS AND TO ENCOURAGE THE INCLUSION, UM, OF ART SPACES, NOT JUST PUBLIC WORKS OF PUBLIC ART AS A PART OF THOSE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. 
          AND NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          COUPLE, UH, MORE GOALS HERE. 
          STRONG CITY ARTS AND CULTURE PROGRAMS. THIS REALLY IS ABOUT, UH, AS IT SAYS THE ARTS AND CULTURAL PROGRAMS, UM, SPEARHEADED BY THE CITY. 
          SO IT TALKS ABOUT THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE. 
          UM, AND IN THIS CASE, AS YOU WELL KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S KIND OF AN OVERLAP OF THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE WITH THE, UH, RECREATION, MUSIC AND PARKS, UH, COMMISSION. 
          ALSO, YOU TOLD US IN 2021 THAT SOMETIMES YOUR COMMITTEE IS ENCOURAGED TO BECOME A BROAD, BROADER THAN PUBLIC ART TO TAKE ON A CULTURAL AFFAIRS COMMISSION TYPE OF ROLE. 
          SO THIS POLICY CALLS FOR REEVALUATING, UH, THE ROLE OF THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE IN RELATION TO THE OTHER GOVERNING BODIES AND KIND OF LEVEL SETTING WHAT YOUR MISSION SHOULD, SHOULD BE FOR THE FUTURE. 
          WE ALSO HAVE ONE POLICY HERE ABOUT FUNDING. 
          WE THINK FUNDING DESERVES A STRONGER PLATFORM IN THE GENERAL PLAN. 
          BUT RE UM, LET'S TO SUFFICE IT TO SAY THAT THIS, THAT POLICY, UM, IDENTIFIES, UM, WAYS TO INCREASE PUBLIC FUNDING FOR THE ARTS AND PRIVATE FUNDING FOR THE ARTS, AND A LEVERAGING OF THE TWO TOGETHER. 
          GOAL THREE IS ABOUT THE PUBLIC ART PROGRAM. 
          UH, AS YOU TOLD US IN 2021, YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THE PUBLIC ART MASTER PLAN UPDATED. 
          UH, WE THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. 
          YOU ALSO HAVE BEEN WORKING ON, UM, CHANGES TO THE KINDS OF PUBLIC ART THAT ARE CREATED AND THE WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED THROUGHOUT THE CITY. 
          THIS POLICY SUPPORTS THAT DIRECTION. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, THIS SAYS PUBLIC ART. 
          IT REALLY IS BROADER, UH, ARTS AND CULTURE, UM, A BROADER ARTS AND CULTURE GOAL, AND HAS TO DO WITH, UM, EQUITY, INCLUSIVITY AND ACCESSIBILITY. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE PO THE FIRST POLICY HERE IS ABOUT MORE RELEVANT AND ACCESSIBLE ARTS PROGRAMMING THAT SPEAKS TO ALL DIFFERENT POPULATION GROUPS AND NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, IN THE CITY. 
          THE SECOND POLICY USING ARTS TO CONNECT THE EAST AND WEST SIDES 
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OF THE, OF THE CITY AND THE DIFFERENT CULTURES THAT REPRESENTS. 
          AND POLICY 4.5 MULTICULTURAL ARTS PROGRAMMING. 
          MANY OF YOU SAID TO US, YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE CULTURALLY SPECIFIC PROGRAMMING, UM, LIFTED UP, UM, AND BETTER INTEGRATED INTO THE OVERALL KIND OF CITY, CITY, UH, YEAR LONG CITY SEASON, UH, OF EVENTS. 
          OKAY, I FOUND THIS ON THE WEB FOR YEAR LONG CITY SEASON EVENTS. 
          CHECK IT OUT, , I APPARENTLY WOKE UP SIRI WITH MY, UH, MY IPHONE. 
          APOLOGIES FOR THAT. 
          UM, SO THRIVING CREATIVE BUSINESSES. 
          GOAL FIVE IS ABOUT THE CREATIVE ECONOMY. 
          UM, AS WE LOOKED AT ON THE, THE MAP OF CREATIVE BUSINESSES, ALMOST ALL OF THOSE CREATIVE BUSINESSES ARE SMALL BUSINESSES. 
          AND WE FIND IN PETALUMA, AS IN MOST CITIES, THE CREATIVE SECTOR IS A VERY VITAL SECTOR, BUT IT IS LARGELY UN UNRECOGNIZED AND UNPLANNED IN RELATION TO OTHER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT EFFORTS OF THE CITY. 
          SO THIS GOAL IS REALLY ABOUT BETTER CONNECTING YOUR CREATIVE ECONOMY WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UM, INITIATIVES IN THE CITY. 
          THE REGIONAL CREATIVE CENTER GOAL SIX HEARKENS BACK TO THE, UM, ARTS DEMAND STUDY THAT WE TALKED ABOUT A FEW MOMENTS AGO. 
          WE THINK THAT, UM, PETALUMA AS A CITY CAN BETTER INTEGRATE ARTS CULTURE AND CREATIVITY, CREATIVE ECONOMY INTO YOUR BRAND, INTO YOUR IDENTITY. 
          YOU HAVE LOTS OF OPPORTUNITY TO INCREASE, UH, VISITORSHIP AND, YOU KNOW, ATTENDANCE AND BUSINESS, UH, RECEIPTS THROUGH SHOWCASING ARTS AND CULTURE, AND ALSO THROUGH THE CREATION OF ONE OR MORE ARTS DISTRICTS, WHETHER DOWNTOWN OR ANOTHER AREAS OF THE CITY. 
          AND OUR LAST GOAL, UM, YOU KNOW, EVERY CITY THAT WE WORK IN HAS A KIND OF CRISIS OF AFFORDABLE SPACE. 
          PETALUMA IS A LITTLE LESS SEVERE IN THAT AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT YOU TOLD US IN 2021. 
          UM, BUT THIS GOAL, UM, PRESENTS POLICIES TO TACKLE THE SPACE PROGRAM BEFORE IT BECOMES WORSE. 
          AND SPECIFICALLY TO ENCOURAGE LIVE, WORK, UH, SPACES, WHETHER ACTUALLY DEVELOPED BY THE CITY OR DEVELOPED WITH THE IN INCENTIVIZED BY THE CITY AND DEVELOPED IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY TO CREATE LIVE WORK SPACES FOR THAT VERY INDIVIDUAL FOCUSED, UH, ARTS COMMUNITY, CREATIVE COMMUNITY THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE START OF THE PRESENTATION. 
          AND WITH THAT, I THINK WE HAVE REACHED THE END OF THAT, AND I AM VERY MUCH LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH, DAVID. 
          JUST ONE FINAL NOTE, UM, AND I THINK THESE ARE IN YOUR STAFF REPORT, BUT, UM, WHEN WE, WHEN YOU DID GET TO THE, THE DISCUSSION SECTION OF, UH, THE MEETING, UH, IN ADDITION TO THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE FORM WE PROVIDED, WE ALSO HAVE TWO SUPPLEMENTAL, UH, ART SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, UM, THAT WE'D LOVE TO HEAR, UM, YOUR FEEDBACK ON. 
          AND I CAN, I'LL, I'LL STOP SHARING SCREEN NOW. 
          THAT CAN COME BACK TO THIS IF, IF HELPFUL FOR THE, FOR THE GROUP. 
          HEATHER, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING MORE? I DO NOT. 
          UH, REALLY AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS OF THE TEAM AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK AND COMMENTS WITH USING THOSE QUESTIONS IS PROMPTS, BUT DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, THE FLEXIBILITY TO GO OUTSIDE OF THOSE PROMPTS IF DESIRED. 
          GREAT. 
          WELL, YOU'VE DONE THIS A FEW TIMES, JUDGING BY THE CALENDAR WE'VE SEEN. 
          SO, UM, I, WHAT I WAS GONNA PROPOSE IS THAT WE GO ASK CLARIFYING QUESTIONS NOW OF, OF ANY INDIVIDUAL JUST PRESENTED AND THEN, UH, MOVE TO PUB GENERAL PUBLIC OR PUBLIC COMMENT, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A, A MORE IN DEPTH DISCUSSION. 
          DOES THAT WORK? SOUNDS GREAT. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          THAT'S, THAT WORKS. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          COMMITTEE MEMBERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO, UH, START WITH SOME QUESTIONS OR, UM, DEFER AND WE CAN MOVE TO, UM, THE NEXT STEP. 
          COMMITTEE MEMBER BELLA. 
          UM, SO FOR SOMETHING LIKE THE PETALUMA HISTORICAL MUSEUM AND LIBRARY, WHICH IS CITY OWNED, BUT I'M ON THE BOARD, WE RUN IT SEPARATELY FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WOULD THAT BE PUT UNDER AC TWO? SO A CITY OWNED CULTURAL CENTER LIKE THAT? UM, PROBABLY NOT. 
          FIRST OF ALL, UM, LET ME SAY THAT AS ARTS AND CULTURE CONSULTANTS AND I, I'M REPRESENTING A TEAM HERE. 
          I HAVE PARTNERS IN CULTURAL PLANNING GROUP WHO'VE HELPED WORK ON THIS ELEMENT. 
          WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE CITY EXPAND ITS FOOTPRINT IN ARTS AND CULTURE. 
          AND THAT COULD BE IN THE FORM OF PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY. 
          IT COULD BE IN THE FORM OF, UH, A GRANT MAKING PROGRAM. 
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COULD BE IN, IN THE, YOU KNOW, IN OTHER WAYS. 
          UH, THERE, THERE MYRIAD WAYS THE CITY COULD SUPPORT AND PARTNER WITH THE WORK OF THAT ORGANIZATION AND MANY OTHER ORGANIZATIONS AND CREATIVE BUSINESSES IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          TO DO THAT WOULD REQUIRE POLICY DECISION TO EX AS I SAY, EXPAND THE MISSION AND SCOPE OF THE CITY'S CURRENT FOCUS ON PUBLIC ART. 
          SO EVEN THOUGH THE CITY OWNS THE MUSEUM, THAT'S STILL DIFFERENT. 
          UM, IT, IT MAKES, IT MAKES THE, UM, THE ARGUMENT ALL THE MORE COMPELLING . 
          DID YOU SAY, SHOULD IT BE UNDER AC? WOULD IT FALL UNDER AC TWO? THAT'S WHAT I WAS WONDERING. 
          YEAH, IF THAT'S WHERE SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD FALL, JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY. 
          THERE, THERE ARE A NUMBER, UH, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF POLICIES AND ACTIONS WHERE A RELATIONSHIP THERE COULD FIT. 
          MM-HMM, . 
          OKAY. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          THANKS. 
          YEAH, C MEMBER DIGS, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU GUYS FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. 
          THIS IS, UH, A HUGE BODY OF WORK. 
          IT'S SO HELPFUL FOR US TO SEE AND TO BE ABLE TO, UM, PARTICIPATE IN IT'S, YOU KNOW, AT THIS POINT IS, IS, UM, I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR IT. 
          I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT PROCESS. 
          IT'S VERY GENERAL. 
          UM, AND I KNOW WE'RE NOT AT THIS POINT, BUT AT SOME POINT ACTIONS WILL BE, YOU KNOW, PUT TOGETHER THROUGH YOU ALL. 
          AND I'M WONDERING IF WE'LL BE INVITED BACK AT THAT POINT TO REVIEW ACTIONS AND GIVE YOU FEEDBACK OR, OR IF THIS IS SORT OF WHERE OUR INPUT STOPS. 
          RON, DO YOU WANNA SPEAK GENERALLY TO SURE. 
          OTHER, OTHER POINTS THAT THIS COMMITTEE WILL BE BROUGHT IN FOR COMMENTS? NO, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. 
          UM, YEAH, NO, THIS IS NOT YOUR FINAL BITE AT THE APPLE. 
          UM, WE, I I'VE BEEN ASSUMING HEATHER, CORRECT ME IF YOU SEE IT DIFFERENTLY, UM, THAT WE'LL DO SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR WHEN A PUBLIC DRAFT OF THE GENERAL PLAN IS RELEASED FOR PUBLIC REVIEW. 
          UM, AND AS I NOTED EARLIER, THAT DRAFT WILL HAVE THE COMPLETE SET OF ACTIONS THAT WE THINK WOULD BE NECESSARY TO ACHIEVE THE GOALS. 
          UM, THAT BEING SAID, IF THERE ARE SOME ACTIONS IN THE CURRENT DRAFT OF THE POLICY FRAMEWORKS, AND IF YOU HAVE IDEAS FOR WHAT ADDITIONALLY SHOULD BE DONE, THIS IS A GREAT TIME TO SHARE THOSE. 
          UM, SO DON'T BE BASHFUL ABOUT SUGGESTIONS. 
          CAN I FOLLOW BACK UP WITH COMMITTEE MEMBER BELTWAYS QUESTION? SO GOING INTO THE FRAMEWORK ITSELF, AND THERE'S A LOT OF, THERE'S SOME EXAMPLE ACTIONS. 
          AND WHEN THINKING ABOUT THE MUSEUM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S STUFF ABOUT SHOWCASING COMMUNITY CREATIVITY AT ART EXHIBITS, PERFORMANCES, YOU KNOW, SO THE MUSEUM COULD LIKE PULL IN, PULL IN THERE, OR ACTIVATING SPACES DOWNTOWN WITH CREATIVE ACTIVITIES AND ELEMENTS. 
          YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF PLACES THAT I FEEL LIKE THE MUSEUM COULD KIND OF TAP IN, WOULD FALL UNDER AN EASY, YOU KNOW, WAY TO SAY, YEAH, THE MUSEUM COULD BE A GREAT PARTNER THERE. 
          A MUSEUM COULD BE A GREAT, UH, CITY OWNED PLACE TO SHOWCASE SOMETHING. 
          SO I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF PLACES IN THE, IN THESE ACTIONS THAT IT COULD PLUG IN THERE. 
          DEFINITELY. 
          I CAN TOTALLY SEE THAT. 
          I'M JUST CURIOUS. 
          I KNOW THAT FROM MY OWN EXPERIENCE, IT'S BEEN DIFFICULT FOR CITY OWNED ARTS OR CULTURAL ORGANIZATIONS AT ALL TO ACTUALLY GET HELP FROM THE CITY. 
          I IT'S VERY, THEY'RE SO HANDS OFF AT THIS POINT, BUT THIS IS, THIS IS VERY HELPFUL AND I WANNA LOOK AT IT MORE CLOSELY 'CAUSE I HAVE A LOT OF THOUGHTS ABOUT IT THAT IT WOULD TAKE ME MORE THAN, YOU KNOW, AN HOUR TO THINK ABOUT , I THINK CAN BE MORE CLEAR IN WHAT I MEANT TO SAY. 
          BUT I DO APPRECIATE THE FORM THAT WE CAN FILL OUT BECAUSE I'M SURE I'LL HAVE A LOT MORE TO SAY FOR THAT. 
          BUT I, I DO SEE IT FITTING IN A LOT OF PLACES. 
          I JUST KNOW THAT IN THE PAST THERE'S BEEN SUCH A SEPARATION BETWEEN THE CULTURAL THINGS AND PUBLIC ART AND THE ACTUAL CITY AND WHAT THEY'RE REALLY INVOLVED IN OTHER THAN THIS COMMITTEE. 
          SO I, YOU KNOW, I HAVE, I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS  I CAN ASK. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT WAS JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF SPECIFIC. 
          CAN I, CAN I HAVE ONE MORE QUICK THOUGHT ON THAT? YES. 
          WE'RE ON. 
          UM, YEAH. 
          PLEASE DON'T FEEL CONSTRAINED BY THE CURRENT STRUCTURE OF THE GOALS AND POLICIES. 
          LIKE, DON'T KILL YOURSELF TRYING TO FIND THE PLACE OR PLACES WHERE YOUR IDEAS MIGHT BEST FIT. 
          JUST LET US KNOW WHAT YOU THINK IS MISSING AND WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHERE BEST TO PLACE IT WITHIN THE NEXT DRAFT. 
          SO, SO JUST FOCUS ON THE, THE SUBSTANCE, THE CONTENT THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE INCLUDED, AND WE CAN TAKE CARE OF HOW BEST TO FIT IT IN. 
          THAT'S VERY HELPFUL. 
          THAT MAKES THINGS MUCH CLEAR TO ME. 
          , MAY I ALSO ADD ANOTHER COMMENT? I TAKE THAT AS A YES. 
           YES. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, SO I SAID A MOMENT AGO THAT WE WOULD LIKE 
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TO SEE THE CITY INCREASE ITS, UM, FOOTPRINT AND ARTS AND CULTURE AND CREATIVITY. 
          SO IT'S NOT JUST BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, OUR FIRM ARE ARTS PEOPLE , IT'S BECAUSE WE HEARD IT FROM ALMOST ALL OF THE STAKEHOLDERS THAT WE, UH, INTERVIEWED. 
          AND WE HEARD IT FROM YOU, UH, THREE YEARS AGO, THAT THERE ARE MANY MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE CITY TO NOT JUST INVEST IN ARTS AND CULTURE, BUT EXERCISE ITS LEADERSHIP AND ITS, UM, ITS LEVERAGE ON BEHALF OF ARTS AND CULTURE. 
          SO IT, IT WAS A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION AS THESE MATERIALS WERE DEVELOPED AND THERE ARE VERY REAL RESOURCE CONSTRAINTS, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, CONSTRAINTS IN THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND THAT ARE MAKING THAT DIFFICULT TO DO IMMEDIATELY. 
          BUT AS HEATHER SAID, THIS IS A 20 TO 30 YEAR PLAN AND THAT'S WHY IT'S INCLUDED HERE. 
          UH, A VISION FOR A MUCH BROADER ROLE FOR CITY GOVERNMENT. 
          AND THERE ARE MANY EXAMPLES OF SMALLER CITIES LIKE PETALUMA THAT HAVE MUCH LARGER, UM, ROLES IN ARTS AND CULTURE, INCLUDING YOUR WONDERFUL PUBLIC ART PROGRAM. 
          NOT TO TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM WHAT YOU'VE ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH THAT, BUT EXPANDING TO MEETING THE COMMUNITY MORE OF THE COMMUNITY'S INTERESTS AND NEEDS IN ARTS AND CULTURE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          , ANY OTHER CLARIFYING QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE MEMBERS? YEAH, COMMITTEE MEMBER COLD IRON. 
          SO ON POLICY AC 1.3, ESTABLISH AN ARTIST IN RESIDENCY PROGRAM. 
          UM, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'LL BE PROVIDING ADVICE OR IS IT JUST GOING TO BE LIKE A, A BULLET ITEM OF SOMETHING FOR PEOPLE TO THINK ABOUT? AND ON YOUR POLICY, AC 2.2, SAME KIND OF QUESTION. 
          HE MENTIONED A STRONGER PLATFORM. 
          SO WILL YOU BE PROVIDING ADVICE FOR ESTABLISHING MORE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE FUNDING OPTIONS? AND MY THIRD QUESTION, UM, NOT TOO FAR FROM HERE IS THE CITY OF SONOMA AND THEY HAVE THEIR CULTURAL AND FINE ARTS COMMISSION. 
          THEY DON'T HAVE A PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE, HOWEVER. 
          SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'LL BE PROVIDING SUGGESTIONS OR DIRECTION OR A BULLET ITEM THAT WE LOOK INTO OR THE CITY LOOKS INTO? UM, SO GOING BACKWARDS WITH YOUR THREE QUESTIONS, UM, LET ME SEE HERE. 
          YOUR, UM, THE, LET'S SEE, I'M LOOKING AT AC 2.1, , UH, ALIGNING THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE WITH CITY GOALS AND DECISION MAKING. 
          THIS IS REALLY LOOKING AT THIS WHOLE IDEA OF THE, THE SCOPE AND MISSION OF YOUR PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE. 
          SHOULD IT BECOME BROADER AND SHOULD IT, UM, YOU KNOW, MERGE WITH, OR, YOU KNOW, RECONFIGURE ITSELF IN RELATION TO THE RECREATION, MUSIC AND PARKS COMMISSION. 
          IT SAYS HERE MUSIC AND ARTS COMMISSION. 
          BUT THAT'S A TYPO. 
          UM, IN TERMS OF FUNDING, WHICH WAS I THINK YOUR SECOND QUESTION, WE HAVE, UH, SUGGESTED A NUMBER OF OPTIONS. 
          UH, IT IT JUST CROSS REFERENCES THEM IN THIS DOCUMENT. 
          UM, BUT YES, WE ABSOLUTELY ARE SUGGESTING SPECIFIC WAYS, SPECIFIC FUNDING SOURCES, BOTH PUBLIC AND PRIVATE, UM, THAT WOULD INCREASE THE PIE, UH, OF AVAILABLE RESOURCES. 
          AND I BELIEVE YOUR FIRST QUESTION WAS ABOUT ARTISTS IN RESIDENCY PROGRAMS. UM, I I WASN'T EXACTLY SURE WHAT YOU WERE ASKING. 
          WAS IT, WILL THIS ACTUALLY BE DONE ? WELL, MY QUESTION WAS ARE YOU GOING TO ADVISE THAT THIS BE DONE? IN OTHER WORDS, RIGHT NOW THAT'S THE INTENT OF THIS POLICY. 
          YES. 
          RIGHT NOW WE ADVISE THAT IT ACTUALLY BE DONE POINT, SO, OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          BUT THE ROLE OF THE GENERAL PLAN WON'T BE TO ACTUALLY DO THAT. 
          IT'S TO, BUT IT'S BRINGING IT UP AS A, AS A GOAL, AS A VISION OF SOMETHING THAT, THAT THERE HAS BEEN INTEREST IN THE COMMUNITY AND, UM, AS A WAY TO EXPAND THE ARTS REACH WITHIN LOCAL GOVERNMENT COMMITTEE MEMBER MERINGUE. 
          UM, I'M JUST WONDERING IF YOU CAN CLARIFY ACTION AC 3.1 0.4 AND THE CONSIDERATION OF REMOVING THE REQUIREMENT FOR NEW PARKS 
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AND OTHER PUBLIC FACILITIES TO PAY INTO THE PUBLIC ART FUND AND THE INCORPORATION OF OTHER WAYS TO FACILITATE ART DISPLAYS AND HOW THAT WOULD BENEFIT EXP EXPAND, EXPANDING ART IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          I PROBABLY CAN TOUCH ON THAT A LITTLE BIT. 
          UM, THERE IS VERY LIMITED MONIES FOR PARKS. 
          AND SO, UM, AS, AS THE CURRENT CODE IS WRITTEN, IT WOULD APPLY A STRICT 1% OF THE BUDGET, UM, WOULD NEED TO GO TO PUBLIC ART. 
          AND THAT HAS CREATED PROBLEMS WITH BUDGETING FOR THE CITY IN, IN THE PAST, UH, BECAUSE BUDGETS ARE SO SLIM AND NARROW AND IT HAS NOT BEEN FROM A LACK OF WANTING TO INCORPORATE PUBLIC ART. 
          SO THINGS LIKE HAVING SOME KIND OF COMMUNITY BASED PUBLIC ART EFFORT TO INCLUDE SOMETHING CREATIVE IN, IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PARK AND THE DESIGN OF THE PARK. 
          BUT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT HAS BEEN A REAL CHALLENGE. 
          UM, SO LOOKING AT THE POSSIBILITY TO THINK OF A MORE FLEXIBILITY FOR THAT KIND OF PROJECT WHERE PUBLIC ART CAN STILL BE INCORPORATED WITHOUT THE FULL 1% COST, UM, TO TRY TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT BUDGETING CHALLENGE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO JUST TO CLARIFY, THERE WOULD STILL BE A NEED TO INCORPORATE A CREATIVE ELEMENT TO NEW PARKS, JUST NOT BASED ON A DOLLAR AMOUNT. 
          THAT THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHERE THIS ORIGINATED YES. 
          WAS TO REWRITE SOMETHING LIKE IN THE ORDINANCE WHERE THERE WAS A REQUIREMENT FOR PUBLIC ART, BUT IT DIDN'T HAVE TO TRACK WITH THE 1%. 
          'CAUSE THE COST OF PARKS IS ACTUALLY QUITE EXPENSIVE . 
          AND SO IT'S A LARGE DOLLAR AMOUNT AND SOMETIMES THAT, THAT CAN REALLY CREATE A BARRIER TO MOVING FORWARD WITH A, A PARK PROJECT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO THAT'S WHERE THAT INITIATED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I WOULD, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? WELL, I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE A LITTLE CLARIFICATION. 
          WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CURRENT WAY WE'RE PERFORMING WITH OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PARKS, RECREATION, MUSIC, AND THEN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, IS THAT WITH THE OLEG PIECE AT KENWORTH PARK, WE'RE ACTUALLY NOT REALLY LOOKING AT THE 1%. 
          IT'S MORE THE INTERCONNECTEDNESS BETWEEN THE BODIES TO SUPPORT ART AT THAT PARK. 
          AND SO IT'S KIND OF A DIFFERENT WAY OF LOOKING AT IT. 
          AND EVEN IN OUR APPROACH WITH THE MARY FULLER MCCHESNEY PIECES THAT WE'VE ACQUIRED, WE'RE LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES IN PARKS WHERE THERE MIGHT ALREADY BE INVESTMENTS OR UPGRADES WHERE THAT COULD EASILY HAPPEN AT THE SAME TIME WHERE IF CONCRETE'S BEING POURED, WE MIGHT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A PEDESTAL TO BE CREATED FOR INSTALLATION. 
          SO IT'S JUST A, IT, IT VERY MUCH ACCOMPLISHES THE SAME THING. 
          MM-HMM. 
           IT JUST MIGHT BE A DIFFERENT WAY OF DEFINING IT SO THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE IT HAPPEN AND IN A WAY THAT SUPPORTS BOTH OF OUR GOALS. 
          SHE SAID IT MUCH MORE ELOQUENTLY. 
          THANK YOU BOTH. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UH, I DO HAVE, UH, ONE, ONE BIT OF A CLARIFICATION WHERE WE WE'RE IN THIS, UH, IN WHAT FRAMEWORK WOULD WE FIND THINGS LIKE, UH, FESTIVALS AND SPECIAL EVENTS THAT ARE SOMETIMES THE RICHEST AND MOST DENSE CULTURAL SORT OF EXPERIENCES THAT MENTS CAN FIND, LIKE, UH, THE, UM, CRUISING THE BOULEVARD OR THE CRAFT CRAFT ARENA CRAFT SHOW OR THINGS LIKE THAT WHERE ARTISTS AND CREATORS MAKERS COME TOGETHER FOR A FINITE PERIOD OF TIME? UH, DAVID, IF YOU COULD RESPOND. 
          YEAH, I JUST REFERENCE WHERE THAT SHOWS UP IN THIS FRAMEWORK. 
          I'LL DO A QUICK SEARCH IN THE OTHER FRAMEWORK AND SEE IF IT IS POSSIBLE. 
          YEAH, WE, WE DIDN'T TREAT FESTIVALS AND COMMUNITY EVENTS AS A STANDALONE EITHER POLICY OR ACTION. 
          UM, BUT THATS, I WOULD SAY IT'S CERTAINLY IN GOAL FOUR AND WOULD PROBABLY FALL UNDER, I MEAN, IT COULD FALL UNDER CONNECTING EAST AND WEST, YOU KNOW, SIDE NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          IT COULD ALSO BE UNDER PARTNERING WITH LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS, UM, MULTICULTURAL ARTS PROGRAMMING. 
          BUT IF YOU FEEL IT ISN'T, UH, IF YOU WOULD LIKE IT CALLED OUT SPECIFICALLY, PLEASE SUBMIT A COMMENT TO THAT EFFECT AND WE'D BE HAPPY TO CONSIDER IT. 
          'CAUSE IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          OR COMMENTS TO WHEN YOU GO INTO DISCUSSION, IF THAT'S A PIECE THAT FEELS MISSING. 
          THAT'S A GREAT COMMENT. 
          GREAT, THANK YOU CHRISTOPHER. 
          UM, I WANTED TO SAY THAT IN SECTION AC 4.4, THE PARTNER ORGANIZATIONS THAT DAVID MENTIONED, THAT IT MIGHT BE ALSO WITHIN AN ELEMENT OF INCUBATION OF LIKE BRINGING UP 
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ARTISTIC VOICES. 
          UM, FULL DISCLOSURE, I'M ONE OF THE FOUNDING MEMBERS OF CRAFT AND I RUN IT. 
          AND ONE OF OUR GOALS, ASIDE FROM GENERATING MONEY FOR COTS IS THAT WE INCUBATE SMALL BUSINESS AND MANY OF OUR ORIGINAL VENDORS THAT POPPED UP 15 YEARS AGO NOW HAVE RETAIL SPACES DOWNTOWN. 
          AND SO IT VERY MUCH SO SUPPORTS THOSE INCUBATION PERIODS FOR BUSINESS. 
          SO I DO SEE THAT THIS COULD BE AN ELEMENT OF, UM, PROMOTING SMALL BUSINESS AND CREATIVE COMMUNITY WITHIN. 
          SO THAT MIGHT BE ANOTHER SPACE THAT THAT LIVES IN. 
          UM, WHEN I LOOK AT THE LANGUAGE THAT WE HAVE AND THIS FRAMEWORK IS THAT, UM, WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SUPPORTING CREATIVE ARTS BUSINESS AND GROWING THAT, THAT THOSE FESTIVALS OFTEN DO. 
          AND SO, UM, THEY'RE USUALLY INDEPENDENTLY OPERATED, BUT I THINK THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE CAN SUPPORT THIS AND I CAN IDENTIFY THAT, LIKE WITH ROOFER TOWN REVIVAL, THE CITY PROVIDES A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR THE EVENT THROUGH, UM, PERMITS AND ACTIVITIES THAT HELP REINFORCE THE EVENT OUTSIDE OF MAYBE A CREATIVE PROCESS, BUT THEY DO HELP SUPPORT THE BUSINESS JUST SO THAT WE'RE AWARE THAT SOME PARTS OF THAT ARE ALREADY HAPPENING. 
          AND IT WOULD BE SMART TO REINFORCE THAT MAYBE WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THIS FRAMEWORK. 
          ONE, ONE OTHER QUICK NOTE ON THE QUESTION ABOUT EVENTS. 
          UM, THERE IN BOTH GOALS, P SEVEN AND P NINE OF THE PARKS FRAMEWORK, UM, THERE ARE SOME REFERENCES TO, UH, CITY SUPPORT FOR FESTIVALS, EVENTS, WHAT, WHAT HAVE YOU. 
          UM, THAT BEING SAID, IT IT, I THINK IT ALSO MERITS INCLUSION IN THE ARTS AND CREATIVITY FRAMEWORK. 
          SO AGAIN, WELCOME ANY SPECIFIC SUGGESTIONS IN THAT REGARD. 
          ALRIGHT, WELL WITH, UH, WITH OUR QUESTION PERIOD OVER, UM, WE'LL OPEN THIS TO PUBLIC COMMENT AND, UM, I GUESS I'D ASK AT THIS POINT, WERE THERE ANY COMMENTS SUBMITTED PRIOR TO THIS, UM, PRIOR TO THE MEETING? NO PUBLIC COMMENTS WE RECEIVED PRIOR TO THE MEETING. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO, UM, DISCUSSION. 
          AND HEATHER, I GUESS I WOULD ASK, UM, I MEAN PERSONALLY, WELL MAYBE I CAN PULL THE, THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS HOW THEY WOULD LIKE TO GO ABOUT IT, BUT I HAVE A SORT OF A, I WOULD LIKE TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THE, THE GOALS AND JUST CALL OUT MY COMMENTS. 
          SO IT'S MORE OF A SEQUENTIAL THING WHERE, UM, I JUST NEED TO SORT OF GET ON RECORD ABOUT THOSE THINGS, MAYBE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A BACK AND FORTH. 
          UM, DOES THAT SOUND APPROPRIATE TO TAKE THEM GOAL AT A TIME AND KIND OF GO DOWN THE LINE? AND DOES ANYONE HAVE COMMENTS ON THIS GOAL? THAT'S RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS, WHAT DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT? YOU FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT HOW YOU'D LIKE TO WORK THROUGH THIS? OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT, WELL, WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, GOAL, UH, GOAL NUMBER ONE, AC ONE ARTIST IN CITY PROGRAMS AND PROCESSES. 
          SO, UM, JUST, UH, SOUND OFF MAYBE, UH, STARTING WITH KEVIN AND COMING DOWN IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, POINTS OF DISCUSSION ON ANY OF THESE MATTERS. 
          AND IF YOU DON'T, UM, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. 
          NO, I WAS JUST REVIEWING MY NOTES THAT I TOOK BEFORE THIS AND, UM, I HAD NO, NO COMMENTS ON THAT SECTION. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          VICE CHAIR DIGS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, I DID HAVE SOME NOTES. 
          AGAIN, AS YOU ALL KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, OVERLAPPING WITH OTHER SECTIONS, SO WE MAY TOUCH ON THIS ELSEWHERE, BUT AS I WAS WE READING THROUGH THESE, SOME THINGS CAME TO MIND. 
          UM, LET'S SEE. 
          UH, I GUESS ENCOURAGE AND SUPPORT PUBLIC PARTICIPATION IN THE MAKING OF ARTWORK CREATION WHERE POSSIBLE. 
          I THINK A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT IS THEATER SQUARE, THE FOUNTAIN THAT HAS, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY MADE THEIR FACES, I DON'T KNOW, 20 YEARS AGO, 15 YEARS AGO. 
          AND IT CREATES, UM, OWNERSHIP AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY GREAT FOR GETTING PEOPLE DOWNTOWN OR IN BUSINESSES THAT RELY ON TOURISM AND VISITATION. 
          AND I THINK THAT GIVING PEOPLE AN OWNERSHIP OF THE ART PROCESS THEMSELF CREATES PRIDE AND REINFORCES THE NOTION OF ART AND PUBLIC SPACES. 
          UM, ANOTHER THING, UH, THE ARTS PARK FOR PETALUMA UNDER AC 1.2, I THOUGHT WAS AN INTERESTING IDEA AND I WOULD LIKE TO LEARN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT. 
          UM, THE ACTIVATING OF SPACES IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE NEED AND YOU'VE ALREADY SPOKEN TO THAT, UM, THROUGHOUT YOUR PRESENTATION, SO I KNOW THAT THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED. 
          AND THE OTHER THING I GUESS THAT, UM, STRUCK ME IS, AND AGAIN, THIS IS ONE OF THE VISIONS OR THE GOALS OR SOMETHING, BUT CREATING MORE, UM, EAST 
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SIDE OPPORTUNITIES TO THREAD BOTH SIDES OF TOWN TOGETHER. 
          BUT ALSO A LOT OF THE INSTALLATIONS ON THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN ARE IN COMMERCIAL CENTERS THAT DON'T HAVE SORT OF THE SMALL TOWN FEELING THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THAT IS HERE ON THE WEST SIDE. 
          UM, SO I WOULD LOVE TO THINK OF A WAY THAT WE COULD, UM, ADDRESS EAST SIDE ART INSTALLATIONS THAT FEEL LESS COMMERCIAL IN UM, PLACE. 
          AND I THINK THAT WAS IT FOR ME. 
          AND AGAIN, THESE SAME IDEAS ARE GONNA POP UP ELSEWHERE, BUT THAT'S SORT OF WHAT I NOTED IN THIS PARTICULAR, UH, OPENING SECTION OF THE FRAMEWORK. 
          THANKS. 
          SO, UM, DAVID AND RON AND HEATHER, IF YOU WOULD, UM, IF YOU FEEL AS THOUGH YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS ANY OF THE POINTS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO DO THAT. 
          OTHERWISE WE CAN KEEP MOVING THROUGH HERE. 
          OKAY. 
          THIS IS GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ARCH. 
          OH, I'M SORRY. 
          SORRY, GO AHEAD. 
          NO, I WAS JUST SAYING I'M TAKING NOTES AND THESE ARE GREAT, GREAT COMMENTS. 
          I DID WANNA, UM, GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE ARCH PARK BECAUSE THAT ACTUALLY WAS A, CAME AS A RESULT OF A STAFF, UM, SUGGESTION. 
          IT CAME UP AS WE WENT THROUGH THE, YOU KNOW, YEAR LONG DIALOGUE  ABOUT WHAT SHOULD GO IN THIS POLICY FRAMEWORK. 
          AND STAFF FELT STRONGLY THAT AN ART PARK WOULD BE, UM, NOT ONLY A VISIBLE PLACE AND COMMITMENT, UH, TO ARTS AND CREATIVITY ON THE PART OF THE CITY, BUT IT WOULD ALSO BE SERVE AS A VENUE FOR KIND OF EVERYDAY CREATIVITY OR RESIDENTS, WHETHER THEY HAVE AN ARTS TRAINING OR BACKGROUND OR NOT, TO BE ABLE TO EXPERIMENT, UM, WITH THEIR OWN CREATIVITY. 
          SO IT'S KIND OF MULTIDIMENSIONAL AND UH, WE, WE LOVE IT. 
          OKAY. 
          COMMITTEE MEMBER. 
          BWAY, ANYTHING FOR THIS ITEM? YEAH, I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT ANN SAID. 
          I THOUGHT THAT THE ARTS PARK AND THEN THE PUBLIC ASPECT OF PEOPLE PARTICIPATING IN PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ART ARE BOTH REALLY IMPORTANT. 
          I THINK IT ALLOWS PE IT EMPOWERS PEOPLE TO THINK OF PETALUMA CULTURE AND LESS OF A HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE, BUT MORE A MODERN PERSPECTIVE. 
          I THINK WE'RE REALLY GOOD AT CELEBRATING THE HISTORY OF PETALUMA. 
          PEOPLE ARE VERY INTERESTED IN THINGS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, MADE LOCALLY IN PETALUMA. 
          THEY THINK I HEAR IT SPOKEN ABOUT FROM THE PAST AS OPPOSED TO THIS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING CULTURALLY IN PETALUMA TODAY. 
          AND I THINK BOTH OF THOSE THINGS WILL SUPPORT THAT. 
          SO THOSE, I I JUST, THAT WAS MY COMMENT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COMMITTEE MEMBER COLD IRON, ANYTHING FOR THIS? UM, NOTHING FURTHER TO ADD, JUST I AGREE WITH ALL THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO, UM, I'LL ASK FOR COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND, UM, GUESTS AND EVERYONE'S, UH, UNDERSTANDING AS I SORT OF MOVE THROUGH SOME OF THESE COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE HERE. 
          UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY, MAYBE I JUST WANNA SAY SOME OF THEM AND MAYBE GET A RESPONSE ON A FEW OF THEM HAVE A LITTLE DISCUSSION ON A FEW OF THEM. 
          BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I HAD, UM, ALWAYS CHALLENGED MY FOUND CHALLENGING IN THIS IS TO WONDER HOW LITERALLY I SHOULD TAKE SOME OF THE WORDING, SOME OF THE LANGUAGE IN THIS DOCUMENT, AND IT SORT OF STRIKES ME RIGHT OFF THE BAT IN, IN GOAL NUMBER ONE IS, UM, PUTTING PUTTING ARTISTS IN CITY GOVERNMENT LITERALLY, UM, BASED ON OUR EXPERIENCE HERE, THAT'D BE, WE'D FIND THAT REALLY CHALLENGING I THINK BASED ON, YOU KNOW, THE TYPICAL ARTIST PROFILE, BUT THE WHOLE IDEA OF INJECTING A LOT OF CREATIVITY INTO CITY GOVERNMENT COULD BE A GAME CHANGER FOR THIS TOWN. 
          SO, SO SOME OF THE LANGUAGE THAT I SAW, LIKE ARTS AND CREATIVE THINKING, UM, INTO CITY PROJECTS UNDER YOUR, BASICALLY YOUR, YOUR FIRST LINE THERE UNDER INTEGRATE ARTS INTO CITY PROJECTS. 
          UH, I THOUGHT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UM, SECTION WAS FANTASTIC THERE. 
          UM, THE, UH, I SOMETIMES FREQUENTLY HONESTLY LOOK AT, UM, PUT THE WORD DESIGNER IN PLACE OF, UH, ARTIST BECAUSE DESIGNERS ARE TRAINED TO SOLVE PROBLEMS, UM, CREATIVELY. 
          AND I THINK THIS IS, UM, IF, IF YOU HAD SEVERAL DESIGNERS, UM, OR PEOPLE WITH THAT SORT OF BACKGROUND WHO EMPLOYED DESIGN THINKING WHEN IT CAME TO CITY PROJECTS, UM, YOU MIGHT GET A, UH, AN ELEVATED RESULT, UH, UNDER THE SECOND BULLET, CITY ARTS PROGRAMS AND COMMUNICATIONS. 
          UM, THE, UH, THE THIRD BULLET THERE SUPPORT ANNUAL OR BIANNUAL ART EXHIBITS. 
          MY MIND WENT TO A PLACE AN AN INSTITUTION LIKE THE PETALUMA ARTS CENTER, WHICH EXISTS AND IT, UM, AS A NONPROFIT INSTITUTION, BUT IT'S, IT SORT OF CARRIES 
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THE TORCH FOR ARTS AND PETALUMA IN A VERY FORMAL WAY WITH, UH, REALLY NO MAYBE NEGLIGIBLE SUPPORT FROM THE CITY ITSELF. 
          SO I WAS THINKING, IS THERE A WAY THAT THAT COULD COME INTO PLAY AS A MORE FORMAL, UM, PART OF, OF THE CITY, UM, OR, UH, UNDER PARKS AND RECREATION. 
          UM, YEAH, I THOUGHT THAT WAS FANTASTIC TOO. 
          THAT'S, UM, SOMETHING THAT, UH, OUR PUBLIC ART SPECIALIST HAS SORT OF, UM, HELPED US GET DO, WHICH IS GET IT ON THE GROUND FLOOR OF SOME OF THESE PROJECTS. 
          UM, AND I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE KEY TO, TO LONG-TERM SUCCESS FOR, FOR GETTING ART INTO PUBLIC SPACES. 
          UM, PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THIS. 
          UM, MAYBE YOU CAN JUST EXPLAIN THAT BULLET POINT. 
          UM, IT SAYS, USING ARTISTS TO CREATE ACTIVE PARTNERSHIPS BETWEEN CITY STAFF AND COMMUNITY SUPPORT BY ENGAGING CITY STAFF AND CREATIVE ACTIVITIES THAT PROMOTE RELATIONSHIP BUILDING IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO I'LL PAUSE WHILE YOU GUYS LET US KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS, OR LET ME KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. 
          ED LANGUAGE IS A BIT FANGLED, ISN'T IT? UM, SO THERE ARE MANY WAYS THAT, UM, ARTISTS AND DESIGNERS CAN WORK WITHIN CITY GOVERNMENT. 
          AND AS MANY OF YOU PROBABLY ALREADY KNOW, IT'S A TREND. 
          MANY CITIES, UH, AND COUNTY GOVERNMENTS ARE, ARE DOING THIS MORE. 
          PUBLIC SAFETY IS LISTED SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE IT'S OFTEN A CONNECTION THAT PEOPLE DON'T MAKE INTUITIVELY, WHAT COULD AN ARTIST DO IN A POLICE DEPARTMENT OR FIRE DEPARTMENT? AND THERE ARE MANY EXAMPLES OF ARTIST RESIDENCIES, ARTISTS WORKING WITHIN A PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENT, UM, JUST AS YOU SAID A MOMENT AGO, TO BRING CREATIVE, UH, AWARENESS AND PROBLEM SOLVING TO, UM, THE CIRCUMSTANCES, UH, SURROUNDING PUBLIC SAFETY IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          SO THAT'S THE INTENTION HERE, AND I THINK WE CAN MAKE THAT LANGUAGE CLEANER. 
          OKAY, THANKS. 
          UM, THE, UM, THANK YOU FOR ALSO FOR CLARIFYING ABOUT THE, UM, THE ART PARK AND, AND UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT CAME FROM STAFF. 
          UM, I'M WONDERING, UH, AGAIN, UM, AS I, THAT WAS IN, UM, ACTION ITEM 1, 2, 1, AND THEN IF YOU GO DOWN TO 1, 2, 5, IT SAYS, SPONSOR DEVELOPED SHOWCASES FOR COMMUNITY ACTIVITIES SUCH AS, UM, EXHIBITS, PERFORMANCES. 
          I THOUGHT ALSO ABOUT THE PETALUMA ART CENTER WITH REGARD TO, UM, RELATIVE TO THAT. 
          UM, AND THEN ALSO THE FACT THAT THE PETALUMA ART CENTER, UM, IS, DOES HAVE A PHYSICAL SPACE TOO. 
          AND, AND THEN ALSO ON ACTION ITEM NUMBER OR ACTION 1, 2, 3. 
          UM, AGAIN, THE PETALUMA ARTS CENTER CAME TO MIND THERE. 
          I DON'T WORK FOR THE ART CENTER, I'M AN ADVOCATE, BUT IT JUST, UM, IT'S AN EXISTING ASSET THAT I THOUGHT, UM, DESERVES SOME CONSIDERATION. 
          UM, ALMOST DONE HERE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND IT SAYS, UM, IN THE LAST ONE, UM, ACTION ITEM 1.4 0.2, IT SAYS, ACTIVATE PUBLIC SPACES IN DOWNTOWN WITH CREATIVE ACTIVITIES AND ELEMENTS TO ENCOURAGE GREATER DOWNTOWN VISITATION. 
          THERE'S, THERE ARE SEVERAL POINTS IN THIS THAT, UM, BRING UP SOME SORT OF A CONFLICT IN MY MIND WHERE WE MATCH DOWNTOWN HAS THIS INCREDIBLE GRAVITATIONAL PULL FOR PUBLIC ART BECAUSE IT'S SO RICH IN SO MANY WAYS, SO MANY DIFFERENT LEVELS. 
          UM, AND FOR ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF CULTURE AND COMMERCE. 
          IT HAS A GRAVITATIONAL PULL, WHICH I THINK ALSO MEANS THAT A LOT OF OTHER PARTS OF TOWN GET NEGLECTED. 
          AND SO IF WE PUT A FOCUS ON A PLACE THAT ALREADY GETS A LOT OF FOCUS, YOU MIGHT BE IGNORING, UM, OTHER PARTS OF TOWN. 
          SO, UM, AND THEN, UM, BACK TO, UH, 1.5 0.1, UM, WORKING WITH THIS IS, UM, I THINK KEVIN, DID YOU ASK ABOUT THIS ONE? IS THIS, UH, THIS IS WHAT STRUCK ME AS LIKE THE FLEXIBLE REQUIREMENT FOR PUBLIC ART, UM, AND OTHER SPACES. 
          UM, IS THAT, IS IT RIGHT NOW THE ONLY REQUIREMENT THERE IS A SPECIFIC REQUIREMENT FOR PUBLIC? WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE REQUIREMENT FOR PUBLIC ART? UM, FOR 
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SIS PUBLIC PROJECTS TO PAY INTO THE PUBLIC ART FUND? UM, CERTAIN PUBLIC PROJECTS ARE TREATED THE SAME WAY AS PRIVATE PROJECTS. 
          AND THEN THERE'S A SERIES OF, I THINK THE ORDINANCE HAS A SERIES OF EXEMPTIONS, LIKE A PAVING PROJECT, A UTILITY PRO. 
          YOU KNOW, THOSE KIND OF THINGS DO NOT IN THE CURRENT ORDINANCE DO NOT REQUIRE, UH, PUBLIC ART, BUT I, BUT THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT WOULD, LIKE A FIRE STATION WOULD HAVE THAT SAME REQUIREMENT AS, UM, A A, YOU KNOW, A COMMERCIAL CENTER OR, UM, PARKS HAS A, HAS A REQUIREMENT SAME AS PRIVATE. 
          IT DOESN'T DIFFERENTIATE, THERE'S NOT A SEPARATE REQUIREMENT, IT JUST INCLUDES SOME PUBLIC PROJECTS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I THINK THE, THE KEY TERM IN THERE IS THAT FLEXIBLE REQUIREMENT, AND IT'S A PROCESS OF GOING ABOUT DETERMINING THAT LEVEL OF FLEXIBILITY BETWEEN, UM, THE CITY AND THE CULTURE THAT IT, THAT ANY SORT OF PROJECT WOULD CREATE THAT WOULD COME FROM THAT. 
          UM, SO THAT'S IT FOR, FOR THAT ONE. 
          IF WE, UM, THAT WAS JUST NUMBER ONE. 
          IF WE GO TO GOAL NUMBER TWO, WE COULD START DOWN WITH KEVIN. 
          UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS OTHER THAN I THINK THIS IS AN EXCITING TOPIC FOR OUR COMMITTEE. 
          IT'S BEEN A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION FOR AT LEAST OUR SEVERAL MEETINGS. 
          HOW WE CAN INCREASE OUR FUNDING AND SCOPE TO ALLOW US TO ADD MORE ART INTO OUR COMMUNITY. 
          SO, UM, I THINK I WOULD JUST BE INTERESTED TO SEE HOW THAT FLUSHES OUT DOWN THE ROAD AND ASK THAT WE CAN TOUCH ON IT WHEN IT'S MORE DEVELOPED AND FINALIZED. 
          VICE CHAIR DIGGS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, YEAH, THIS IS AN INTERESTING ONE FOR DIFFERENT REASONS. 
          I REALLY, UM, AM CURIOUS ABOUT THE CONSOLIDATION BETWEEN PUBLIC ART AND PARKS, UM, OR RECREATION MUSIC AND ARTS COMMISSION, WHAT, WHATEVER IT'S CALLED. 
          'CAUSE I'M NOT QUITE SURE I'M CONFUSED. 
          BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, LEVERAGING WHAT WE DO HERE ACROSS OTHER COMMISSIONS, I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT FOR A WHILE. 
          NOT ONLY WOULD IT ALLOW JUST SORT OF SOME, UM, YOU KNOW, BASIC CROSS FUNCTIONING AND, YOU KNOW, REACHING OUR GOALS, WHAT WE DO, WE'RE OFTEN HELD UP, I THINK, DUE TO CERTAIN CITY PROCESSES THAT ARE NECESSARY PERMITTING OR, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, ISSUES WITH, UM, TRASH CANS OR, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE VARIOUS THINGS THAT THE CITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR, UM, THAT DON'T ALWAYS HELP. 
          UM, THE INSTALLATION OF PUBLIC ART. 
          SO I'D, I'D REALLY LOVE TO SEE SOME SORT OF, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST COMING TOGETHER WITH THE SPIRIT OF THE PROJECT AND NOT GETTING SO TIED UP WITH, YOU KNOW, WHICH TASK IS FALLING INTO WHOSE BUCKET. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF INEFFICIENCIES, I FEEL LIKE, BETWEEN WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE FOR THE CITY AND THE WAY THE CITY IS HELPING US, YOU KNOW, WITH SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE REQUIREMENTS DUE TO ZONING OR WHATNOT. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S REALLY AN INTERESTING PLACE WHERE WE CAN FIND, UM, GREATER COLLABORATION. 
          AND THE OTHER THING THAT IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES FOR US, I THINK IS, IS FUNDING, WHICH WE ALL KNOW. 
          UM, AND I WOULD LOVE TO, UM, SORT OF INVESTIGATE USING, UM, RIGHT NOW ALL OF OUR PROJECTS HAVE TO GO ON PUBLIC, PUBLIC PROPERTIES. 
          SO CITY OWNED PROPERTIES, WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE IF WE COULD WORK WITH, UM, PRIVATE BUSINESS OWNERS AND THAT ARE PUBLIC FACING TO, UM, CREATE A SPACE FOR OUR WORK? SOMETHING CAME TO MY ATTENTION AND MERCHANT DOWNTOWN HAS A VERY LARGE, UM, UH, PARKING SPACE ADJACENT TO THEIR BUILDING, AND THEY WERE REALLY LOOKING FOR US TO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE FUND A MURAL ON THEIR WALL, BUT BECAUSE IT'S A PRIVATE BUSINESS AND A PRIVATELY HELD, UM, YOU KNOW, BUILDING, WE REALLY COULDN'T, WE COULDN'T ADDRESS THAT NEED. 
          SO HOW DO WE WORK TOGETHER WITH, UM, PRIVATE BUSINESSES OR, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT KINDS OF LOCATIONS FOR OUR PUBLIC ART? AND THIS APPEARS LATER ALSO IN THIS, IN THE FRAMEWORK, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT I FLAGGED RIGHT HERE AS A, AS A FIRST PLACE WHERE I SAW THAT WE COULD START TO TALK ABOUT THIS. 
          SO, UM, UM, ANNE, YEAH, I WANTED TO SUGGEST AND TO THE FRAMEWORK BUILDERS, UM, THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR MAGNIFICENT MURAL PROJECT AND HOW WE SUPPORTED WITH STAFF TIME, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS ON PUBLIC PROPERTY AND WE SUPPORTED WITH 
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GETTING THROUGH THE PERMIT PROCESS, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WHEN WE RECONSIDER THE DRAFTING OF OUR ORDINANCE, WE FIGURE OUT THAT WHAT OUR FUNDING CAN SUPPORT. 
          BECAUSE SOMETIMES IT'S THAT LIFT THAT HELPS GET A PROJECT SOMEWHERE, AND IT DOES TOTALLY SUPPORT OUR GOALS, BUT IT TAKES THE ONUS OF HAVING THE ENTIRE PROJECT ON OUR SHOULDERS FINANCIALLY. 
          AND I THINK HAVING SOME ADAPTATIONS TO OUR ORDINANCE THAT ALLOW FOR THAT LIFT WILL REALLY BE HELPFUL. 
          UM, I WOULD RECOMMEND ALSO, UM, JUST BUILDING OFF OF THIS, THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THAT 1% AND THE OPTION TO DEVELOPERS TO DO THEIR OWN PROJECT OR LIKE ONSITE OR PAY INTO THE FUND, THAT WHAT WE FIND WITH OUR ONSITE PROJECTS IS THAT IF ALL THE MONEY GOES TO AN ONSITE PROJECT, IT DOES NOT SUPPORT STAFF TIME AND REVIEW FROM PPAC. 
          SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT AN ORDINANCE THAT ALSO SUPPORTS PAYING INTO A FUND TO SUPPORT WHAT THEY NEED. 
          BECAUSE WE OFTEN ARE STILL HAVING REVIEWS AFTERWARDS, AND WE'RE USING STAFF TIME TO SUPPORT THOSE REVIEWS. 
          AND WE DON'T HAVE A MECHANISM WITHIN THE ORDINANCE THAT PROTECTS THAT. 
          FROM WHAT I'VE READ. 
          I DON'T KNOW HEATHER, IF YOU KNOW OTHERWISE, BUT I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO CONSIDER WHEN WE OFFER THAT OPTION TO DEVELOPERS WHEN, WHEN THEY ARE DEVELOPERS WITH A LARGER PROJECT STAFF TIME SHOULD BE ABLE TO BE, UM, CHARGED TO THEIR COST RECOVERY FOR THE PROJECT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO THAT THE PUBLIC ART FUND DOES NOT, DOES NOT NEED TO COVER STAFF TIME FOR THOSE PROJECTS, AND THAT THOSE FUNDS DON'T NEED TO COME OUT OF THE 1% OKAY. 
          BUDGET. 
          SO WE SHOULD BE, THAT SHOULD BE NOT BE, THAT SHOULD BE VERY CLEAR AN ISSUE. 
          AND WE, AND WE'VE DONE THAT WHEN WE DID DEER CREEK VILLAGE, ALL OF THE STAFF TIME, YOU KNOW, WENT, WAS CHARGED TO THAT APPLICATION. 
          ONE THING THAT WILL COME UP IS 10 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT STAFF NEEDS TO COME BACK AND, AND VISIT FOR WHATEVER REASON, THERE'S NO LONGER A COST RECOVERY PROJECT AS OR FUND ASSOCIATED WITH THAT PROJECT. 
          BUT INITIALLY TO GET IT REVIEWED, YOU KNOW, ALL THE WAY THROUGH THAT PROCESS, THAT THOSE, UM, CHARGES SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO AGAINST THE COST RECOVERY. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. 
          YEAH, BECAUSE I WASN'T AWARE OF THAT. 
          , IS THERE, UM, OPPORTUNITY TO RE TO RAISE THE 1% FEE? DO WE, IS THIS SOMETHING WE WOULD TALK ABOUT AT THIS POINT, OR IS THAT WITHIN OUR OWN ORDINANCE? OR WHERE DOES THAT CONVERSATION OCCUR? BECAUSE WHAT WE'VE SEEN, WE DID A, MELISSA PUT TOGETHER A GREAT BUDGET AND AN OVERVIEW OF THE EXPENSES OF PAST PROJECTS. 
          AND WHEN, WHEN WE ALLOCATED, UM, WE LOOKED AT PROJECTS AND WE THOUGHT AS X PORTION WOULD GO TO STAFF TIME, X PORTION WOULD GO TO THE COST OF THE ARTWORK, ET CETERA. 
          WHAT WE'RE FINDING IN, ITS REALLY NOT SUSTAINABLE. 
          WE'RE PUTTING IN A LOT MORE TIME MANAGING PROJECTS. 
          UM, AND IT'S PREVENTING US FROM TAKING ON LARGER PROJECTS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AND EVERY PROJECT IS VERY DIFFERENT. 
          YOU HAVE INSTALLATIONS THAT REQUIRE MANY, MANY HOURS, AND THEN MURALS THAT ARE, THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, FAIRLY TURNKEY. 
          SO, BUT HISTORICALLY IT LOOKS LIKE, UM, A LOT MORE OF OUR FUNDS ARE GOING TO MANAGEMENT OF PROJECTS AND LESS TO THE ACQUISITION OF ARTWORKS. 
          SO, UM, I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN OUR MEETINGS, BUT THE 1%, UM, FEE MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD LOOK AT AS POTENTIAL. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO I, AND I'M THINKING THERE IS SOMETHING IN HERE, UM, ALTHOUGH I DON'T HAVE MY FINGER ON IT. 
          UM, ALTHOUGH AS IT, MAYBE IT'S IN GOAL TWO ABOUT, UH, EXPLORING OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR ADDITIONAL PUBLIC ART FUNDING. 
          AND THAT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE AT SOME POINT THERE WOULD BE A PROCESS TO CONSIDER LOOKING AT WHAT, WHAT WOULD THE, WHAT WOULD THE IMPACTS, WHAT WOULD THE, YOU KNOW, RAMIFICATIONS. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS WITH THE 1% IS IT'S ONLY ON COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL, AND THE WORLD HAS CHANGED A LOT IN TERMS OF WHAT KIND OF PROJECTS WE SEE WHEN, YOU KNOW, IN, IN THE ERA OF THE PROJECTS LIKE DEER CREEK VILLAGE, THAT WAS A BIG SUM OF MONEY. 
          OR, YOU KNOW, THE, THE TARGET CENTER FOR INSTANCE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A LARGER SUM OF MONEY BECAUSE THAT'S A BIG COMMERCIAL. 
          WE DON'T HAVE THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, UM, VERY OFTEN. 
          YOU KNOW, ONE, WE'RE MOSTLY RESIDENTIAL RIGHT NOW WITH THE PROJECTS WE DO HAVE. 
          UM, AND THAT RETAIL HAS JUST CHANGED SO MUCH. 
          UM, POST PANDEMIC AND THE RECESSION AND EVERYTHING, IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT, 
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SO I WOULD SAY THAT SOMETHING GENERAL LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, EXPLORING WAYS TO INCREASE ART FUNDING, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALL, THERE'S ALL SORTS OF THINGS THAT COULD THEN FALL UNDER THAT. 
          UM, AND TO ADD ON TO THAT, WE DO DISCUSS THAT IN AC C3. 
          THE, IT'S, THOSE PERCENTAGES COME OUT OF THE MASTER PLAN AND WHEN AN AC C3 RIGHT. 
          PRIORITIZE AND UPDATE TO THE PLAN AND THE ORDINANCE. 
          SO I THINK THOSE CONVERSATIONS AS WE ADDRESS THOSE UPDATES, WHICH I THINK WILL BE IN THE NEAR FUTURE AS A GROUP, UM, THAT WE WILL TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. 
          AND WE HAVE BEGAN EXPLORATION OF THAT INTO WHAT OTHER, UM, PUBLIC ART ORDINANCES. 
          OH, YEAH. 
          SAYS IT RIGHT THERE. 
          AC SO WE'RE GONNA COVER THAT, THE NEXT GOAL AREA. 
          BUT I THINK IT'S, IT'S DEFINITELY OUTLINED THAT THERE'S ROOM FOR US TO, TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AND THAT GROWTH. 
          MM-HMM. 
           ANYTHING FURTHER? ANN? YEP. 
          NO, NO. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          THAT'S GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          I'M JUST THRILLED TO SEE THAT PUBLIC, UH, PRIVATE FUNDING IS PUT DOWN AS SOMETHING THAT'S POSSIBLE AND NEEDED BECAUSE IT REALLY IS, AND I, IF THE CITY SUPPORTS US LOOKING FOR PRIVATE FUNDING, THAT WILL REALLY, REALLY BENEFIT US, OBVIOUSLY. 
          SO I'M JUST, THAT RIGHT THERE MADE ME VERY HAPPY. 
          THAT'S IT. 
          UM, MY QUESTION WAS ABOUT 2.1 0.1, REEVALUATE THE AUTHORITY AND ROLE OF THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE AND ARTS PORTFOLIO OF RECREATION, MUSIC AND ARTS COMMISSION AND CONSIDER RESTRUCTURING OR CONSOLIDATION, ET CETERA. 
          UM, WHEN I READ THIS OVER A MONTH AGO, I THOUGHT, WOW, THIS WILL REALLY CHANGE AND POSSIBLY END THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE. 
          AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT THAT ISN'T WHAT WE SHOULD LOOK AT, BUT WE SHOULD RECOGNIZE THAT IF WE REEVALUATE THE AUTHORITY AND ROLE, UM, IT WILL DEFINITELY CHANGE WHAT THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE DOES AND HOW IT IS STRUCTURED AND WHAT IS ITS, UM, REASON FOR EXISTING. 
          AND IT TIES INTO, UM, THE 3.1 0.4 CONSIDERING THE REMOVAL OF THE REQUIREMENT FOR NEW PA PARKS AND OTHER PUBLIC FACILITIES TO PAY INTO THE PUBLIC ART FUND. 
          SO I WAS JUST A LITTLE CONFUSED ON THAT, ON THE, ON THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE TWO OF THOSE, OR THE 3.1 0.4 RIGHT. 
          ON 3.1 0.4, AND MAYBE WE NEED TO WAIT TO TALK ABOUT THAT. 
          BUT, UM, CONSIDERING THE REMOVAL OF THE REQUIREMENT FOR NEW PARKS AND PUBLIC FACILITIES TO PAY INTO THE PUBLIC ART FUND. 
          SO I JUST, WHEN WE GET TO THAT, I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          'CAUSE THAT SEEMS TO AFFECT ALSO WHAT WE'RE DOING, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE FOCUS OF THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE AND I, DAVID, I AM NOT RECALLING WHERE THE KIND OF GENESIS FOR A C 2.1, 2.11. 
          SURE. 
          UM, ONE OF THE IMPLICATIONS OF WHAT WE HEARD FROM STAKEHOLDERS, UM, WAS THAT, UH, AS I SAID EARLIER IN TONIGHT'S MEETING, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO EXPAND ITS FOOTPRINT IN ARTS CULTURE AND CREATIVE ECONOMY. 
          AND ONE WAY IT COULD EXPRESS THAT IS BY CREATING A CULTURAL AFFAIRS COMMISSION, A BROADER ARTS AND CULTURE COMMISSION THAT WOULD INCLUDE PUBLIC ART, BUT EXTEND INTO A BROADER SCOPE OF, UH, YOU KNOW, ADVISORY AUTHORITY, UH, WITH CITY COUNCIL. 
          AND IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE GOES AWAY, IT PROBABLY WOULD MEAN IF, UH, YOU FOLLOWED THE EXAMPLE OF OTHER CITIES THAT YOU WOULD BE A SUBCOMMITTEE OF A CULTURAL AFFAIRS COMMISSION WITH A BROADER SCOPE OF AUTHORITY. 
          UM, THE ACTUAL WORDING IN 2.1 0.1 BECAME REEVALUATE, CONSIDER, EXPLORE, UM, BECAUSE THE STAFF WAS NOT WILLING TO SET A POLICY TO CREATE A CULTURAL AFFAIRS COMMISSION AT THIS TIME. 
          THEY WANTED TO LEAVE IT MORE OPEN-ENDED. 
          OKAY. 
          GREAT. 
          WELL, YOU JUST ANSWERED, UM, MY QUESTION, , I MEAN, THIS IS THE, UM, THIS IS SO MUCH OF THE 
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AMBITION, SCOPE CHANGE BEHIND THIS PLAN IS REALLY INSPIRING, BUT IT ALSO SEEMS TO CALL FOR SUCH, UM, SUCH A GREATER ALLOCATION OF RESOURCES AND COMMITMENT FROM THE CITY. 
          AND WHEN YOU BOIL DOWN OUR PARTICIPATION OR OUR SORT OF ARTS SCENE THAT'S OFFICIAL WITHIN THE CITY TO THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE, AND THEN PROGRAMS THAT HAPPEN AT LUCCHESE, IT'S, IT FEELS, IT FEELS THIN BY COMPARISON TO THIS VISION, REALLY THIN. 
          SO IT WOULD BE REALLY, UM, SO I WAS EXPECTING SOMEWHERE IN THIS DOCUMENT TO HAVE AN ARTICULATION OF A CULTURE AND CREATIVITY COMMISSION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          BUT JUST TO CLARIFY, YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU WERE ADVISED TO NOT INCLUDE SOMETHING THAT EXPLICIT IN HERE OR TO ARTICULATE A GREATER, UM, A SUGGESTION FOR A MUCH LARGER BODY THAT OVERSEES MUCH MORE? YEAH, OUR IMPRESSION WAS STAFF FELT THAT WAS JUMPING TO THE CONCLUSION AND THEY, THEY WANTED TO RECOMMEND A PROCESS THAT WOULD ALLOW YOU CITY COUNCIL SENIOR STAFF TO EVALUATE THAT AS AN OPTION. 
          OKAY. 
          GREAT. 
          UM, I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS, SO ANY UPS HERE OR SHOULD WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE? ALRIGHT, LET'S GO TO GOAL NUMBER THREE. 
          STRONG PUBLIC ART PROGRAM COMMITTEE MEMBER MERINGUE, ANYTHING. 
          UM, MY ONLY TWO QUESTIONS ARE FOR THE LAST TWO ACTION ITEMS. THE C COMMUNITY ARTS COMPETITION ADD ARTWORK TO CITY BUS STOPS AND REFLECTING THAT AGAINST ALL THE OTHER POINTS OF THIS, THAT ONE SEEMS A LITTLE BIT SPECIFIC AND I WAS WONDERING IF THAT COULD BE EXPANDING TO OTHER CITY OWNED ASSETS LIKE ELECTRICAL BOXES, CITY WALLS, UM, JUST NOT LIMITING IT TO BUS STOPS. 
          AND KIND OF IN THE SAME VEIN, THE NEXT ACTION ITEM, AC 3.2 0.6, ROTATING EXHIBITIONS IN PUBLIC ART AND CITY FACILITIES. 
          IF THAT COULD ALSO BE WITH PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS. 
          GREAT IDEA. 
          OKAY. 
          VICE CHAIR DIGS, UH, I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED BY ACTION. 
          AC 3.2 0.2, IF YOU COULD GIMME A LITTLE CLARIFICATION ON THAT ONE. 
          SELECTION PANELS TO INVERT TO ENHANCE A DIVERSITY OF PANELS. 
          , THAT ONE KINDA, I, I STOPPED IN MY TRACKS THERE. 
          . 
          IT'S STOPPING ME IN MY TRACKS TOO. 
          . 
          YEAH, WE NEED, WE NEED TO REVISIT THAT CLEARLY. 
          SO I, I THINK IT GOT GARBLED IN ALL THE, UM, UH, IN ALL THE MULTIPLE EDITS, UH, BETWEEN STAFF AND THE CONSULTANTS. 
          THE INTENTION HERE IS, UH, DIVERSITY OF DECISION MAKERS ON, YOU KNOW, PANELS INVOLVED IN SELECTING ARTISTS AND ARTWORK. 
          AND THAT'S GREAT FOR ME. 
          THAT'S IT FOR ME. 
          UM, SOME OF MY OTHER QUESTIONS WE ANSWERED BACK IN SECTION TWO, SO OKAY. 
          I'M GOOD TO GO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I JUST HAD THE SAME QUESTION AS ANN, JUST CLARIFICATION ON WHAT THAT MEANT, BUT THANK YOU, . 
          YEAH, I HAD THE SAME QUESTION, , I, I WROTE DOWN, UM, LOOKS LIKE WE'RE ADDING LAYERS TO LAYERS OF LAYERS HERE. 
          SO, UM, THAT WAS DEFINITELY A QUESTION. 
          AND THEN, IS THIS A TIME THEN WHEN WE COULD ASK ABOUT THE 3.1 0.4? UM, I GUESS THAT WAS SOMETHING I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT NEW PARKS WERE PAYING INTO THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE. 
          SO IS THAT WRITTEN CORRECTLY OR DID I HAVE A MISUNDERSTANDING? SO THIS IS WHAT WE TOUCHED ON EARLIER THIS EVENING, IS FINDING WAYS TO INCORPORATE PUBLIC ART INTO PARK PLANNING WITHOUT NECESSARILY BEING A, A SPECIFIC BUDGET AMOUNT. 
          RIGHT? BUT THE WORDS ARE CONSIDER THE REMOVAL OF THE REQUIREMENT. 
          AND SO MY QUESTION IS TO PAY, IS THAT WORDING ALREADY THERE? SO THERE IS A, IN THE 1% FOR PUBLIC, OUR YEAH. 
          NEW PARKS 
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HAVE A REQUIREMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SO THIS IS, AND, AND WE SHOULD MAYBE LOOK AT THIS LANGUAGE TO MAKE SURE IT'S VERY SPECIFICALLY CLEAR THAT IT'S NOT REMOVING THE, THE, THE ACTION WAS NEVER TO REMOVE ART BEING PART OF PARKS. 
          IT WAS TO CREATE THAT FLEXIBILITY. 
          SO THERE COULD BE ART INCORPORATED THROUGH A VARIETY OF WAYS, WHETHER IT'S COMMUNITY ART PROJECTS OR CREATING SPACES FOR PUBLIC ART THAT MAYBE THE CITY ALREADY HAS IN ITS COLLECTION THAT NEEDS A HOME, THOSE KIND OF THINGS, AS OPPOSED TO A SPECIFIC DOLLAR AMOUNT, WHICH IS OFTEN A VERY SIGNIFICANT BURDEN ON PUBLIC PARKS PROJECTS, RIGHT? 'CAUSE OF THE LIMITED BUDGETING. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO THE, I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR, IT WAS NOT TO TAKE OUT THE REQUIREMENT FOR ART AND PARKS. 
          IT WAS TO, UM, UPDATE THE ORDINANCE TO PROVIDE MORE FLEXIBILITY ON HOW WE COULD DO THAT. 
          HEATHER, I WOULD ASK ALSO, AND THIS IS KIND OF MY COMMENT ON THIS A LITTLE BIT AS A CITIZEN, BUT HOW I RECOMMENDED THAT WE SUPPORT THE INSTALLATION OF ARTS. 
          I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE THAT INCLUDE THE INSTALLATION OF SPACE THAT PROMOTES ARTS, LIKE, UM, BEYOND VISUAL ARTS AND SCULPTURE, BUT PERFORMING ARTS, LIKE IF WE HAD FLEXIBLE SPACE, UM, I REMEMBER IN THE CREATION OF THE STATIONARY PLAN, WE TALKED ABOUT AN AMPHITHEATER, LIKE AN OUTDOOR AMPHITHEATER TO SUPPORT ARTS AND CULTURE. 
          AND OUR PARKS COULD VERY EASILY HAVE FLEX SPACE KENNELWORTH KIND OF TOUCHES ON THIS, BUT THE IDEA OF LIKE A TIERED FLEX SPACE THAT SUPPORTS, UM, PERFORMANCE. 
          AND THAT COULD HELP IN A LOT OF THE CONNECTIONS WE'RE SEEKING THAT ARE BEYOND THE VISUAL, LIKE BEYOND TRADITIONAL PUBLIC ART AND INTO THE REALM OF THE EVENT MAKING AND SPACE MAKING AND THEATER AND MUSIC THAT WE ALSO LOOK TO AUGMENT IN THIS FRAMEWORK. 
          AND SO I THINK I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE IN THAT PROPOSITION OF MAKING IT MORE FLEXIBLE, THAT IT INCLUDES THE IDEA OF CREATING SPACE THAT ALLOWS FOR THAT BEYOND TRADITIONAL ARTS OR THE ARTS WE FOCUSED ON, ON THIS COMMITTEE. 
          AND THEN MY LAST COMMENT WAS JUST, I REALLY LIKED THE IDEA OF EXPANDING ROTATING EXHIBITIONS OF PUBLIC ART. 
          I THINK THAT'S A FABULOUS POINT. 
          I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT AT VARIOUS TIMES IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY POSITIVE FOR THE CITY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, SO I MOVE TO, UM, POLICY AC 3.2. 
          UM, CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THE, UH, THE INTENTIONS BEHIND THIS. 
          UM, GOING TO, TO ACTION 3.2, 0.1, UM, DEVELOP NOMINATIONS PROTOCOL TO DIVERSIFY THE, UH, MEMBERSHIP OF THIS COMMITTEE. 
          UM, I THINK THAT'S, UH, WOULD BE CHALLENGING, RIGHT? I THINK WE WE'RE, THERE AREN'T THAT MANY APPLICANTS FOR THIS TO BEGIN WITH. 
          MAYBE IT WAS, IT WOULD BE MORE OF A MATTER OF ACTUALLY PUBLICIZING WHAT THE BODY DOES, RAISING ITS PROFILE, SHARING IT, UM, IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY TO HOPEFULLY GET MORE APPLICANTS, UM, OF DIVERSE BACKGROUNDS. 
          UM, BUT IN TERMS OF CREATING A FORMAL PROTOCOL, IT DOESN'T SEEM TO MAKE SENSE TO ME. 
          UM, UTILIZE SELECTION PANELS. 
          THIS IS A 3.2 0.2, UM, TO ENHANCE THE DIVERSITY OF PANELS. 
          SO WE'VE GONE OVER THAT. 
          BUT REALLY WHAT THAT MEANS TO ME IS THAT THERE'S GONNA BE, UM, SOMETHING LIKE HAPPENED WITH SEVEN YEARS AGO WITH FINE BALANCE, WHERE THERE'S A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT COMES TOGETHER AND DECIDES ON THE QUALIFICATIONS OF AN ARTIST OR THE, THE MERITS OF A, OF A PROPOSED PIECE OF ART. 
          UM, THAT'S GREAT, BUT IT'S ALSO INCREDIBLY CUMBERSOME AND TIME CONSUMING AND, AND FUND CONSUMING. 
          SO IF WE HAD A MUCH, UM, DEEPER BUDGET, UM, OR THIS WAS, UH, THIS WAS SOMEHOW HANDLED OUTSIDE, UH, ADMINISTRATIVELY OUTSIDE OF THIS COMMITTEE, THEN UM, THAT MIGHT WORK. 
          BUT RIGHT NOW, UM, I THINK THE CLOSER, UM, I THINK WE DO A REALLY GOOD JOB ON THIS COMMITTEE OF BEING ABLE TO JUDGE POTENTIAL PROJECTS, UM, ON THEIR MERITS. 
          AND I'D SAY, I GUESS I'D LEAVE IT AT THAT. 
          CAN I INTERJECT SOMETHING THERE? WE DID TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT, UM, WITH THE BLACK LIVES MATTER MURAL, AND I'M FORGETTING EXACTLY HOW WE SET THAT UP. 
          BUT WE DID HAVE, UM, TWO MEMBERS, UM, OUTSIDE OF THE COMMITTEE THAT DID REPRESENT A GREATER DIVERS DIVERSI 
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DIVERSITY THAN WAS PRESENTLY SITTING ON THE COMMITTEE WHO DID LIKE THE, I THINK IT WAS MAYBE THE FIRST ROUND ON, ON SLIDE ROOM WHENEVER ALL THE APPLICATIONS CAME IN, THEY DID THE FIRST ROUND OF REVIEW AND RANKING. 
          SO I THINK MAYBE THERE'S SOME CREATIVE WAYS TO THINK ABOUT DOING THAT, UM, THAT ISN'T NECESSARILY LIKE CREATING MORE PROCESS OR DIFFICULTY. 
          I APPRECIATE YOU POINTING THAT OUT. 
          I DO. 
          I I HAD FORGOTTEN ABOUT THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU WERE INSTRUMENTAL IN MAKING THAT PROJECT HAPPEN AND I THINK PROBABLY INFLUENCING THE CREATION OF THAT. 
          SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS REALLY EFFECTIVE AT THE TIME. 
          UM, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT SORT OF IMPACT THAT HAD, BUT IF WE COULD MODEL THAT OR USE THAT AS AN INSPIRATION, IF YOU COULD TAKE DOWN THAT AS SORT OF A BIT OF INSTITUTIONAL MEMORY TO NOT GET LOST. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, I WAS ACTUALLY GONNA COMMENT ON THE SAME THING THAT, UH, WE RECOGNIZED EARLY ON THAT OUR PANEL WOULD NOT BE APPROPRIATE IN SELECTING A BLACK LIVES MATTER SELECTION OF ARTISTS. 
          I BELIEVE WE SELECTED 14 ARTISTS AND THAT PANEL OF TWO WOMEN, WHICH WERE, THEY CAME FROM COMMUNITY, WE ASKED THE COMMUNITY TO RESPOND AND THEY CAME FORWARD AND THEY DID DO ALL SELECTION. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WE SAW THE IMAGES COME IN, BUT THEY DID DO THE, ALL THE SELECTION, LIKE THE FINAL SELECTION. 
          UM, IT, I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THIS, BUT IT WOULD BE HARD TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY HOW TO DO IT. 
          IT'S BEEN A PRIORITY OF, IT MIGHT BE BETTER STATED THAT IT'S A PRIORITY OF THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE TO ENGAGE AND PROMOTE A DIVERSE, DIVERSE ARTIST REPRESENTATION WITHIN BOTH THE VISUAL REPRESENTATION OF DIVERSITY AND THE DIVERSITY OF ARTISTS SELECTED. 
          BECAUSE IT'S REALLY BEEN A TENANT THAT'S INFORMED US POST BLACK LIVES MATTER MURAL. 
          AND IT FELT LIKE IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE, HAVE THAT VOICE DICTATE AND REPRESENT IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          AND IT WAS, WAS, IT WAS A, IT WAS VERY, UM, THE COMMITTEE DIDN'T HE AND HAW OVER THAT THEY TRUSTED THE DECISION AND THEY DIDN'T SECOND GUESS IT. 
          AND THERE WAS NO LIKE, OH, WELL THEY PICKED SOMEBODY THAT I, I DON'T LIKE THAT OR THIS. 
          SO IT WAS A, IT DEMONSTRATED A REAL COMMITMENT BY THE COMMITTEE TO ALTER THE PROCESS, KIND OF GO OUT ON A LIMB BECAUSE IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO, GIVEN THE FACTORS AT THE TIME AND THE TYPE OF PROJECT WE WERE TRYING TO DEVELOP. 
          AND, AND SO TO MELISSA'S POINT, IT, IT MIGHT ALSO BE COMMITTING TO REMAINING FLEXIBLE AND KEEPING THAT AT THE FOREFRONT OF THOUGHTS TO COME UP WITH DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT WAYS. 
          I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S THE WAY EVERY SELECTION PANEL SHOULD BE OR IF THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE, BUT THERE ARE TIMES WHEN IT IS. 
          SO, UH, WE CAN LOOK AT KIND OF SOME OF THAT WORDING TO HIGHLIGHT THAT. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANKS FOR THE INPUT THERE. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          THE LAST FEW THINGS I'D SAY IS ON, UM, THE LAST THREE ACTION ITEMS, 3.2, FOUR, FIVE, AND SIX. 
          I THINK WE SHOULD FEEL PRETTY GOOD THAT THESE ARE THINGS THAT THE CURRENT COMMITTEE HAS, UH, IS EITHER PRETTY DARN GOOD AT OR IS ALREADY IS ALREADY WORKING ON. 
          UM, SO I ENDORSE CONTINUING THOSE. 
          MOVING TO, UH, VICE CHAIR, I HAD ONE MORE THOUGHT ON THE TOPIC OF INCLUSIVITY AND YOU KNOW, ON OUR COMMITTEE, ET CETERA, THE PANELS ARE, ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMITTEES THAT HAVE A YOUTH MEMBER SITTING WOULD THAT BE APPROPRIATE FOR THIS BODY? OR THE YOUTH COMMISSION WAS DISMANTLED AND NOW THERE'S TWO SPOTS UP ON THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMITTEE. 
          AND SO I THINK WE'RE LOOKING TO PROMOTE HOW YOUTH MEMBERS CAN BE INVOLVED IN OTHER CCBS, BUT THAT'S STILL DEVELOPING. 
          BUT IT MIGHT BE A GOOD THING TO MENTION IN, IN THIS POLICY FRAMEWORK TO, TO EVALUATE THE POSSIBILITY OF EXPANDING MEMBERSHIP TO INCLUDE YOUTH MEMBERS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          YEAH, I THINK IT COULD BE REALLY INTERESTING FOR THE RIGHT PERSON, YOU KNOW, AND WE COULD STRUCTURE OUR MEETINGS DIFFERENTLY AND, YOU KNOW, PUT THE, EVEN DO THE PROJECT REPORTS UP FRONT AND THEN WHEN IT COMES TO THE MORE DENSE MANNER, GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO STAY OR GO OR SOMETHING. 
          BUT I THINK IF YOU WANNA FOSTER INCLUSION IN IN PUBLIC ARTS AND CULTURAL ARTS GOING FORWARD, IT, IT, YOU KNOW, IT MAKES SENSE TO PULL FROM OUR YOUTH POPULATION. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU CHRIS. 
          CAN I ADD A COMMENT? I THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT IDEA, ANN. 
          AND LIKE JENNY SAID EARLIER, WE, WE WANT TO HONOR THE WONDERFUL HISTORICAL 
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PART OF OUR CITY, ESPECIALLY THE HISTORICAL DOWNTOWN. 
          BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN WE LIMIT OUR FOCUS TO JUST THAT. 
          UM, AS CHRIS SAID, WE REALLY HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT EXPANDING INTO THE EAST SIDE AND LOOKING SPECIFICALLY FOR ARTISTS OF, UM, ARTISTS OF COLOR, UM, LATINO ARTISTS, EVERYTHING TO MORE REPRESENT OUR CITY AND THE ARTWORK AND LOOKING MORE FORWARD AND INTO THE FUTURE. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO GOAL, UM, FOUR, WHICH IS EQUITABLE AND ACCESSIBLE PUBLIC ART. 
          UH, THE ONLY POLICY I HAVE TO COMMENT ON IS AC 4.2 TO CONNECT THE EAST AND WEST SIDE NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          I THINK THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. 
          EAST AND WEST SIDE HAVE SUCH DISCONNECT BECAUSE OF THE INTERSTATE RUNNING THROUGH THE CITY. 
          AND THE CITY I GREW UP IN, FORT COLLINS, COLORADO HAD A VERY SIMILAR FEEL WITH NORTH AND SOUTH FORT COLLINS. 
          AND THAT WAS SOLVED WITH PUBLIC TRANSIT. 
          UM, THEY MADE A BUS LINE THAT JUST RAN NORTH AND SOUTH AND I DON'T REMEMBER A LOT OF ART PUT INTO THAT INITIATIVE. 
          AND SO I'M GOING TO BE VERY INTERESTED TO SEE HOW ART CAN SOLVE PETALUMA'S CHALLENGE WITH THIS INSTEAD OF JUST CREATING MORE ART ON EACH SIDE AND DEVELOPING MORE OF A DIFFERENT CULTURE FROM THE EAST AND WEST SIDE. 
          PETALUMA'S, JUST TO ADD ONTO THAT, AND A SUGGESTION IS WE ALSO BROUGHT UP THAT WE WOULD WORK MORE WITH OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS. 
          AND I THINK THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY AS WE SEE CIP PROJECTS AND LIKE THE COFIELD IMPROVEMENT AS A CROSS TOWN CONNECTOR, THAT WE TRY TO GET OUR FOOT IN THE DOOR AND MAYBE WE OUTLINE THAT A CONNECTION ON THIS FRAMEWORK BETWEEN THAT. 
          BECAUSE IF SOMEBODY'S LOOKING TO IMPROVE THE PEDESTRIAN FOOTBRIDGE, WE KNOW THAT THAT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED AS A PUBLIC ART P PRIORITY LOCATION THAT IF THAT'S HAPPENING, IT WOULD BE THE PERFECT TIME FOR US TO INTERJECT OUR VOICE. 
          AND SO I THINK THAT THOSE OPPORTUNITIES, 'CAUSE WE DO NOT, WHAT WE FOUND IN OUR PROCESS OF IDENTIFYING LOCATIONS A FEW YEARS AGO FOR OUR SMALL ART GRANTS WAS THAT WE JUST DIDN'T OWN THE PUBLIC BUILDINGS TO SUPPORT A LOT OF THE PLACEMENT ON THE EAST SIDE. 
          SO WE WERE EITHER TIED TO DEVELOPMENT PLACEMENT, LIKE YOU POINTED OUT ANN, OR WE WERE LOOKING FOR WHEN SOMEBODY WAS DOING AN IMPROVEMENT AT A FIRE STATION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          SO WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO INSERT AT THAT TIME OR LU CASEY, WHICH HAS BECOME A BIT OF A CATCHALL FOR ALL, UM, UPGRADES ON THE EAST SIDE. 
          SO WE ARE LOOKING FOR THOSE LOCATIONS THAT I THINK LIKE IF WE LOOK TO THE IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, WE MIGHT FIND AN ABILITY THAT WOULD REALLY TRULY CONNECT AND ALLOW US THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE LOCATIONS THAT WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO CURRENTLY. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S A REALLY HIGH PRIORITY IN THIS EAST WEST CONNECTION TO LOOK FOR THAT CONNECTIVITY WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS SO THAT THAT'S THE MOMENT WHERE WE CAN REALLY INSERT OURSELVES. 
          NOW I WOULD LIKE TO ADD ANY POTENTIAL ARTS SPACE OR ARTS DISTRICT, LIKE WE SPOKE UP BEFORE, IT WOULD BE REALLY IMPORTANT, I THINK, PRIORITY FOR US TO LOOK AT THE EAST SIDE FOR CREATING THAT KIND OF THING. 
          AND TO THAT END, I WOULD SAY THAT IT WOULD BE A PRIORITY FOR US TO COMMUNICATE THAT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT AN ADAPTIVE REUSE. 
          LIKE ESPECIALLY IF WE HAVE A LOT OF COMMERCIAL OFFICE BUILDINGS THAT PERHAPS WE SUPPORT THE IDEA IN SOME CAPACITY OF AN ADAPTIVE REUSE FOR STUDIO SPACE OR ARTIST SPACE. 
          UM, WE'VE LOOKED AT, THAT'S HAPPENING A LOT ALONG THE FIRST STREET CORRIDOR AND YOU'RE SEEING A LOT OF STUDIO SPACE, ACTIVE, OPEN STUDIO SPACE TAKING PLACE, ESPECIALLY, UM, BEHIND IT'S WHERE, UM, CHRISTOPHER, DO YOU REMEMBER THE NAME OF THAT SPACE THAT'S ON, NOT HOPPER, BUT COPELAND. 
          UM, WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF ADAPTIVE REUSE IN INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS AND THERE ARE LIKE STUDIO SPACES OR MONTHLY FEES TO USE A STUDIO SPACE THAT I THINK THAT WE HAVE THIS KIND OF COMMERCIAL GLUT OF SPACE AS BUSINESSES REPOSITION THEMSELVES THAT IT WOULD BE REALLY SMART TO LOOK AT THE ARTISTS TO MAYBE OCCUPY THOSE SPACES AND ADAPT THEM FOR US AND ENCOURAGE THAT TYPE OF INDUSTRY AND THOSE SPACES THAT WERE NON-TRADITIONALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT TYPE OF USE. 
          NICE. 
          CHAIR DIGS. 
          DID YOU HAVE, UH, MORE? OH, THIS IS ALL GREAT. 
          UH, A LOT OF THE THINGS I BROUGHT UP EARLIER APPLY TO THIS SECTION TOO. 
          THE ONE THING THAT I FEEL LIKE IS 
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MISSING IS ANY SORT OF, UM, ARTS PARTNERSHIP IN THE SCHOOLS. 
          AND WE TALK ABOUT, UH, ENGAGING THE KIDS IN AT THE LIBRARY IN THE PHOENIX, BUT I KNOW THAT THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO, NO FUNDING IN THE SCHOOLS FOR THE ARTS. 
          UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE STILL EVEN HAVE THE ART DOCENT PROGRAM, WHICH WAS REALLY GREAT, CHERYL, YOU WOULD KNOW. 
          BUT I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CITY NEEDS TO COMMIT TO, UM, REACHING INTO THE SCHOOLS AND, UM, GIVING KIDS MORE OPPORTUNITIES OTHER THAN WHAT THE TEACHERS CAN INCREDIBLY COME UP WITH ON THEIR OWN. 
          I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO, THE CITY NEEDS TO STEP UP AND, UM, PUSH THE ARTS IN THE SCHOOLS. 
          YEAH, I, THE WHOLE EAST WEST CONNECTOR THING IS HUGE IN MY MIND. 
          I LIVE ON THE EAST SIDE AND EVERYTHING THAT I GO TO IS ON THE WEST SIDE. 
          PEOPLE DON'T COME TO THE EAST SIDE FOR ART, FOR PUBLIC SPACES AS MUCH AS THEY COULD BE. 
          BUT I THINK THAT THE KEY IS BECAUSE WE DON'T OWN AS MANY, THERE AREN'T AS MANY PUBLIC BUILDINGS THERE AS THE NEW PART OF TOWN, IT'S COMPLETELY SEPARATE. 
          I THINK THAT, LIKE MELISSA SAID, PIGGYBACKING ON PROJECTS THAT OTHER PEOPLE DOING LIKE A CORRIDOR OR ANYTHING THAT WE CAN ADD PUBLIC ART TO, AND ALSO THE ADAPTIVE REUSE, FINDING OPPORTUNITIES TO HAVE MORE ART OVER THERE WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, BEING MORE CREATIVE IN HOW WE THINK THAT UP. 
          BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT AND IT, IT WILL MAKE A CONNECTION, BUT IT'S JUST, I THINK FINDING NEW ONES BY OURSELVES IS GONNA BE IMPOSSIBLE. 
          SO WE DO NEED TO FIGURE OUT PARTNERSHIPS, PLACES THAT WE CAN SAY, HEY, YOU'RE DOING THIS. 
          LET US JUMP ON WITH YOU AND, AND MAKE IT BETTER BY DOING THIS, THAT, AND THE OTHER. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, MAKING IT MORE BEAUTIFUL, WHATEVER IT IS. 
          BUT I ALSO THINK THE SCHOOLS ARE, WE'RE, THAT'S A HUGE OPPORTUNITY 'CAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ART BUDGETS ANYMORE. 
          SO FOR US TO BE ABLE TO SOMEHOW PARTNER WITH ANY OF THESE GROUPS WILL BENEFIT PUBLIC ART AND OTHER CIVIC GROUPS. 
          I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. 
          WE REALLY BE LOOKING TO HOW WE CAN MAKE THOSE PARTNERSHIPS HAPPEN AS OPPOSED TO JUST IN, IN THEORY, BUT ACTUALLY WORKING TO MAKE THEM HAPPEN. 
          SO HOPEFULLY THIS PLAN WILL ADDRESS THAT. 
          WELL, SPEAKING OF THE SCHOOLS AND THE ARTS, OF COURSE, UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE QUESTIONS AND CONFUSIONS ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH PROP 28. 
          SO PROP 28 WAS VOTED IN, BUT HOW THAT MANY CAN BE USED IN THE SCHOOLS IS STILL UNDER CONSIDERATION. 
          THERE'S BEEN A GREAT DEAL OF CONFUSION ABOUT HOW THE MONEY CAN BE SPENT. 
          UM, AND SO WITHOUT GOING DOWN THAT RABBIT HOLE, UM, I'LL JUST SAY I'M GUESSING ALL THE SCHOOLS LOCALLY ARE LOOKING INTO THAT AND HOW CAN THEY USE THAT MONEY, UM, HAVING THE PARTNERSHIPS. 
          I KNOW THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WOVEN STORIES. 
          WE REALLY WANTED OUR SUBCOMMITTEE TO LOOK AT THE EAST SIDE AND WE WERE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE KENWORTH SCHOOL. 
          AND OF COURSE THAT'S GOING TO BE HAPPENING, YOU KNOW, PRETTY SOON. 
          UM, I THINK, WELL, WE'LL GET AN UPDATE LATER, BUT THIS SUMMER THAT'LL BE HAPPENING. 
          AND SO THAT WAS LIKE ONE OF OUR FIRST HANDSHAKES, IF YOU WILL, DOING SOMETHING CULTURALLY RELEVANT ON THE EAST SIDE WITH THE SCHOOLS. 
          AND YES, I THINK IT'D BE GREAT TO SEE MORE OF THAT, UM, HOWEVER THAT HAPPENS. 
          I KNOW, UM, THE, I FORGET WHAT THEY CALLED IT, BUT IT WAS ALL ABOUT THE STUDENTS AND DOING ART, BUT THEN THEIR EXHIBIT WAS ONLY ABLE TO BE UP FOR ONE DAY. 
          YOU GUYS MAY HAVE READ ABOUT THAT IN THE ARGUS. 
          AND AS AN ART TEACHER, UM, IT TAKES SO MUCH EFFORT TO PUT ON A SHOW. 
          AND WHEN I READ IT WAS ONLY UP FOR ONE DAY, THAT WAS SORT OF HEARTBREAKING. 
          SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE THE CITY CAN GET A LITTLE MORE INVOLVED IN. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE ROADBLOCKS WERE. 
          I KNOW I ONLY KNOW WHAT I READ IN THE PAPER. 
          UM, BUT ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO PARTNER WITH THE SCHOOLS, AS IT WAS MENTIONED, THE PHOENIX THEATER, THE LIBRARY, UM, THE NEW SKATE PARK I WAS THINKING ABOUT. 
          AND OF COURSE WE ALREADY DID THE ONE PROJECT AT THE, UH, SWIM CENTER. 
          SO I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS WE'RE GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. 
          IT'S SLOW, IT'S SLOWER THAN ANY OF US WANT, BUT WE'RE GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AT LEAST. 
          AND I JUST WANTED TO ADD TO THAT, UM, WHEN IT COMES TO THE SCHOOLS AND, AND ENCOURAGING ARTWORK OF OUR, THE CREATIVE PROCESS IN SCHOOLS, IT'S NATURALLY THERE TO BEGIN WITH, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, DOVETAILING IN WITH PARKS AND ENVIRONMENTAL AND, YOU KNOW, EVEN, YOU KNOW, THE CLIMATE ACTION CAMPAIGN OR CARBON NEUTRALITY, I MEAN, I, THERE'S A LOT OF OVERLAPPING GOALS THAT ARTWORK, UM, AND DESIGN 
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CAN FACILITATE. 
          SO I'M SURE IT WILL APPEAR ALL OVER THE FRAMEWORK, BUT, UM, I'D LIKE TO SPECIFICALLY CALL IT OUT IN THE CREATIVE PART. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU FOR THOSE COMMENTS. 
          IT, IT MAKES ME THINK THAT THIS IS ANOTHER, UM, PART OF THE PLAN WHICH SORT OF LOOKS AT HOW AMBITIOUS WE CAN ALL BE IN THESE COLLABORATIONS AND PARTNERSHIPS AND, AND AMPLIFYING SORT OF OUR, OUR EFFECTIVENESS THROUGH, THROUGH, UH, WORKING WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS. 
          AND IT JUST CALL, IT MAKES ME IMAGINE A DIFFERENT FORM THAT THIS OVERALL CULTURAL OR CREATIVE COMMISSION COULD, COULD BE THAT, UM, THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE COULD BE JUST ONE PART OF IT. 
          UM, SO I GET, I STRUGGLED HERE AGAIN WITH TAKING THINGS LITERALLY, UM, ABOUT THE EAST WEST CONNECTION. 
          UM, IT SAYS UTILIZE, UH, PUBLIC UTILIZE ART AS A CONNECTOR FOR THE EAST AND WEST SIDE NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          AND WHEN I THINK OF THAT, I THINK ABOUT THE INCREDIBLE NUMBER OF BARRIERS BETWEEN THE, THE, THE FARTHEST EAST WEST SIDE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE FARTHEST WEST EAST SIDE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, BETWEEN ALL THE, BETWEEN HIGHWAYS AND, AND COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          BUT, UH, WITH THAT IN MIND, I WANTED TO THANK EVERYONE FOR THEIR COMMENTS THAT SORT OF MADE ME IMAGINE WHAT THE POSSIBILITIES ARE HERE. 
          SO MAYBE IT'S, UM, A MATTER OF WORDSMITHING THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE TO INSPIRE THOSE POSSIBILITIES OR PAINT THE PICTURE OF THOSE POSSIBILITIES. 
          UM, ACTION. 
          UM, AC 4.3 0.2, I'M JUST, I'D LIKE TO SOME CLARIFICATION ON, SO SUPPORT AFFORDABLE CULTURAL SPACES IN NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THEY'RE ACCESSIBLE TO A BROAD RANGE OF PEOPLE AND WHERE THEY CAN HELP ACTIVATE THE PUBLIC REALM. 
          MAYBE JUST WHAT IS, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? AND MAYBE AN EXAMPLE OR TWO. 
          SURE. 
          WE TALKED EARLIER, UH, I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS MELISSA OR SOMEONE ELSE ABOUT, UM, LOOKING AT THE PUBLIC ART REQUIREMENT, UM, SO THAT IT WOULD ACTUALLY CREATE SPACES AND NOT JUST PUBLIC ARTWORKS. 
          THAT'S CERTAINLY ONE POSSIBILITY IS BROADENING THE, UH, PUBLIC ART ORDINANCE TO, UH, ENCOURAGE THE FACILITATION OF SPACES. 
          UM, ALSO THERE ARE WAYS THAT THE CITY CAN INCENTIVIZE OR ENCOURAGE, UM, YOU KNOW, NONPROFITS AND PRI OTHER PRIVATE INTERESTS IN THE COMMUNITY TO CREATE CULTURAL SPACES, WHETHER IT'S BY FACILITATING THE PERMITTING OF A CREATIVE BUSINESS THAT WOULD SERVE AS A, YOU KNOW, A MUSIC VENUE OR AS A SPOKEN WORD STAGE. 
          UM, SO THIS IS, UH, INTENDED TO BE OPEN-ENDED TO ALLOW FOR A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT, UH, TACTICS TO BE USED, UH, TO CREATE MORE AFFORDABLE CULTURAL SPACES THROUGHOUT THE CITY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IT BRINGS TO MIND THE, UM, ONE OF THE MORE RECENT OF, UM, COLLABORATIONS OR THE MAJOR ONE THAT THIS COMMITTEE HAD. 
          IT'S BECAUSE OF, UH, OUR PUBLIC ART SPECIALISTS. 
          WHEN SHE WAS ON THE COMMITTEE, SHE, UM, PLUGGED THIS COMMITTEE INTO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPOSED, UM, RENOVATION FOR KENNELWORTH PARK. 
          AND REALLY THE, IT'S, I THINK, THE MOST MEANINGFUL CONNECTION THERE WAS THE ARTWORK THAT, THAT CAME FROM THE ARTIST THAT WAS RECOMMENDED BY THIS COMMITTEE. 
          AND IT'S, AND IT'S, UM, AND HIS ABILITY TO WORK WITH THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT AND PLANNERS THERE. 
          AND SO THAT'S A SORT OF A GROUND FLOOR SORT OF MOST MEANINGFUL, UM, WAY TO, TO GET CREATIVITY AND, AND TO, TO MAKE A PLACE SOMETHING WAY MORE THAN JUST A NEW PARK. 
          UM, AND ART IS DRIVING THAT PRETTY MUCH, UM, COMPLETELY THERE. 
          SO I'M, SO MAYBE IF WE COULD LOOK AT THAT EXAMPLE AND LET THAT INSPIRE SOME OF THE LANGUAGE. 
          THE LAST TWO, UM, THINGS I'D POINT OUT BACK AGAIN ON MY, UM, AS THE CHAMPION OF THE PUB OF THE PETALUMA ARTS CENTER, UM, ACTION, UH, 4.4 0.1 AND 4.5 0.1. 
          I THINK BOTH, UM, SORT OF SUGGEST THAT THAT WOULD BE A GREAT PARTNER ORGANIZATION. 
          AND THAT'S ALL. 
          ANYTHING MORE ON, UM, GOAL NUMBER FOUR FROM THE COMMITTEE OR FROM STAFF? SORRY, I JUST WANTED TO PIGGYBACK ON 4.4 0.5, UM, THAT, AND, UH, 4.4 
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0.4 IS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO CALL OUT THE ABILITY TO SPONSOR THE INSTALLATION OF ARTWORK. 
          UM, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE A NICE WAY TO DEDICATE PIECES AND IT HELPS SUPPORT THE PUBLIC ART PROGRAM IN A WAY THAT WE WON'T ALWAYS HAVE FUNDS AVAILABLE FOR. 
          UM, I SEE IT A LOT IN PARKS WITH THE BENCHES AT HELEN PUTNAM THAT I THINK IT WOULD BE NICE IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO, IF WE HAD LIKE A, A WISHLIST OF SORT OF WHAT WE'D LIKE TO ACCOMPLISH WITH OUR PROGRAM AND SOMEBODY WHICH TO FUND THAT PRIVATELY AS A DEDICATED PIECE, I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT WAY TO AUGMENT OUR PROGRAMMING AND ALLOW FOR, UH, SOMEBODY TO HONOR A LOST LOVED ONE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHATEVER THEY WANTED. 
          BUT IT WOULD ALSO SUPPORT OUR PROGRAMMING AND WE SEE THAT THAT'S ALREADY ROLLED OUT IN THE BENCH PROGRAMS, THAT IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE TO, TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR OUR OWN PROGRAM. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO GOAL, UH, NUMBER FIVE. 
          CORRECT. 
          UM, ACTION AC 5.2 0.1. 
          I KNOW SOMEWHERE IN THE GENERAL PLAN, CREATIVE BUSINESS LEADERS WAS RATHER BROADLY DEFINED ANYWHERE FROM SOFTWARE DEVELOPERS DOWN TO, UM, AN INDIVIDUAL CREATIVE. 
          SO I'D HOPE THAT WHEN THESE UNIQUE NEEDS ARE IDENTIFIED, THAT THAT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT BOTH A LARGE SOFTWARE DEVELOPER DOWN TO AN INDIVIDUAL WITH A SMALL STOREFRONT. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , THANK YOU. 
          UM, LIKE THIS SECTION A LOT BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, AS YOU'VE ALREADY MENTIONED, WE HAVE SO MANY CREATIVES IN PETALUMA DEFINES A LARGE PART OF WHO WE ARE AND, UM, KEEPING THAT, UM, A SUSTAINABLE ECOCULTURE OR, UM, SORRY ENVIRONMENT OF ECOSYSTEM OF BUSINESS IS REALLY KEY TO PETALUMA'S IDENTITY. 
          UM, SO 5.1 0.1, RECOGNIZED CREATIVE BUSINESS AS A SUBSECTOR OF THE LOC MONITOR AND PROMOTE ITS GROWTH HAS, UM, HAS THE, THIS SUB-SECTOR BEEN MONITORED IN THE PAST? LIKE, DO WE HAVE DATA THAT SUPPORTS, YOU KNOW, THE, THE NUMBER OF CREATIVES LIVING IN TOWN OR WORKING HERE, OR HOW DO YOU SPEAK TO ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE WANNA SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, THE CREATIVE BUSINESS OWNERS IN TOWN. 
          UM, BUT IF WE MONITOR IT AND, AND SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE OPEN UP LIVE WORKSPACE OR DO THIS ARTISAN RESIDENCY OR DO, UM, YOU KNOW, RECLAIM, YOU KNOW, DEAD OFFICE SPACES OR WHATEVER, UM, I'M INTERESTED IN THE MONITORING OF THIS GROUP OF BUSINESS BUSINESS PEOPLE TO, UM, SUPPORT SOME OF THE OTHER INITIATIVES IN THIS FRAMEWORK. 
          SO THAT WAS ONE THING I THOUGHT WAS INTERESTING. 
          AND THE OTHER ONE, UM, THE SMALL BUSINESS SUPPORT INCLUDING TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE, FINANCING AND SHARED MARKETING, THAT'S A BIG, A BIG THING. 
          DO YOU SEE THAT AS THE FORMATION OF A NEW FUNDING ARM OR A NEW COMMITTEE TO HELP? WHAT IS, SPEAK TO ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE THAT SOUNDS REALLY INTERESTING. 
          UM, AND I JUST WANTED A LITTLE MORE CLARITY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, HEATHER, SHALL I GO AHEAD? YES, PLEASE. 
          , . 
          SO TO YOUR FIRST QUESTION, THERE ARE WONDERFUL DATA SOURCES, NOT EXPENSIVE, AVAILABLE FOR THE MONITORING AND A**L AND AN ANALYTICS, UM, THAT ARE REPRESENTED IN THE 5.1 0.1. 
          WE USE A DATA SOURCE CALLED THE CREATIVE VITALITY SUITE. 
          UM, IT'S NOT AN IMPACT REPORT, RATHER, IT'S A, IT'S A VERY RICH DATA SET ON THE INDUSTRY'S EARNINGS AND OCCUPATIONS. 
          UM, IT'S GEOGRAPHICALLY BASED. 
          SO WE, YOU KNOW, WE DREW THE PETALUMA DATA AND, YOU KNOW, FOR RELATIVELY NOMINAL COST, THE CITY CAN MONITOR THAT, UM, DATA ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. 
          IT'S UPDATED WITH THE BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS, ET CETERA, OTHER GOVERNMENT DATA ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. 
          UM, AND IT'S A GREAT TOOL TO KIND OF SEE WHAT'S CHANGING AND WHERE IS THE GROWTH, WHERE IS THE STAGNATION, UH, TO TARGET ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UM, INITIATIVES IN TERMS OF SMALL BUSINESS SUPPORT. 
          I MENTIONED IN THE PRESENTATION THAT THE GREAT MAJORITY OF CREATIVE BUSINESSES ARE SMALL BUSINESSES. 
          AND OFTENTIMES THEY EITHER DON'T ACCESS 
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SMALL BUSINESS SUPPORTS THAT ALREADY EXIST, OR THE ONES THAT EXIST ARE A LITTLE OFF-PUTTING 'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY TAILORED FOR CREATIVES. 
          SO OFTEN THE ROLE OF THE CITY CAN BE IN SIMPLY MAKING, UM, MAKING AVAILABLE, ALREADY EXISTING, UH, BUSINESS SUPPORTS AND IN SOME CASES ENCOURAGING THAT THEY BE TAILORED TO THE SPECIFIC NEEDS OF PETALUMA'S, YOU KNOW, CREATIVE SECTOR. 
          SO IF YOU GET TOGETHER, FOR EXAMPLE, FOLKS INVOLVED IN THE VISUAL ARTS INDUSTRY, THEY MIGHT HAVE A IES OR GALLERIES, UM, IN PETALUMA, IF YOU GET THEM TOGETHER AS A GROUP FOR SMALL BUSINESS SUPPORTS, THEY WOULD NEED SOMETHING TAILORED TO THE NEEDS OF THEIR SPECIFIC INDUSTRY. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I THINK OF, I THINK OUTREACH TO THE COMMUNITY WOULD BE A BIG PART OF THE SUCCESS OF THIS. 
          UM, YOU BET. 
          YEAH, YOU BET. 
          THANKS. 
          COMMITTEE MEMBER BELTWAY. 
          OKAY. 
          COMMITTEE MEMBER COLD IRON. 
          EVERYTHING'S BEEN BROUGHT UP THAT I HAD. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          UM, I THINK THIS IS A REALLY BEAUTIFUL SECTION, REALLY POWERFUL SECTION. 
          IT'S GOT A LOT, UM, IT, IT'S SORT OF EASY TO SEE THE DR THAT THIS COULD BE A REAL DRIVING FORCE IN GROWING SORT OF THE CREATIVE VIBE IN THE TOWN HERE THAT MAKE IT MORE PERVASIVE. 
          I THINK WE'RE REALLY LUCKY AS A COMMUNITY, UM, TO HAVE SO MANY CREATIVE BUSINESSES AND, UM, IT'S CLEARLY AN ATTRACTIVE COMMUNITY FOR THEM. 
          AND THIS, AND IF THIS PLAN TAKES THE, THE FORM THAT DAVID AND COMPANY IS SORT OF IS TRYING TO PUT INTO PLACE FOR, IT'S LIKE, UM, IT CAN ONLY BE STRONGER. 
          SO IT'S REALLY, REALLY ENCOURAGING. 
          I'M CURIOUS, ONE QUESTION ABOUT, ABOUT ONE QUESTION ABOUT METHODOLOGY OR ABOUT THE INCLUSION OF WHAT STRUCK ME MAYBE IN YOUR POWERPOINT EARLIER, DAVID, WAS THE, THE INCLUSION OF, OR MAYBE IT WAS IN THE PACKET THAT WE GOT, BUT IT WAS THE INCLUSION OF THINGS LIKE WINERIES AND BREWERIES. 
          AND I WONDER HOW YOU, YOU INCLUDE THOSE AND YOU DON'T INCLUDE A BAKERY THAT'S, OR A FLORIST OR SOMETHING, UH, OTHER BUSINESSES. 
          AND I'M WONDERING IF YOU CAN, IF YOU CAN INCLUDE THOSE, WHY, UM, HOW DO YOU SEE THOSE REALLY CONTRIBUTING TO SORT OF THE, THE GREATER, UM, SORT OF MORE INCLUSIVE ARTS CULTURE AND COMMUNITY? SO DEFINITION OF THE CREATIVE SECTOR FOR ANY GIVEN CITY OR COMMUNITY IS, UM, UH, IDIOSYNCRATIC. 
          SO FOR EXAMPLE, WINERIES AND MICROBREW BREWERIES ARE OFTEN EXCLUDED IN OTHER COMMUNITIES. 
          BUT  IN SONOMA COUNTY, IT'S A NO-BRAINER. 
          YOU KNOW, IT IS A PART OF YOUR CULTURE AND YOUR CREATIVITY. 
          UM, I DON'T THINK BAKERIES, ARTISAN BAKERIES ARE EXCLUDED. 
          I THINK THEY JUST WEREN'T IN THE TOP, UH, INDUSTRY SECTORS. 
          UM, THERE ARE, THEY ARE UNDOUBTEDLY COUNTED, UM, THROUGH SOME OF THE CULINARY JOB CATEGORIES. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE MEMBERS ABOUT THIS? UM, OR POINTS OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS, UH, GOAL? ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON TO, UM, GOAL NUMBER SIX, THE REGIONAL CREATIVE CENTER. 
          I THINK MY COMMENT'S GONNA TIE IN POLICY SIX AND SEVEN WITH THE LIVE WORKSPACES AND CREATION OF ARTS DISTRICT SINCE, UH, SINCE WE'RE IN THE POST COVID WORLD AND A LOT OF TALENT IS REMOTE NOW, I NOTICED A LOT OF EMPTY BUSINESS BUILDINGS, THERE'S A BETTER TERM FOR THAT, BUT UP ON  OLD REDWOOD HIGHWAY, I WAS TAKING MY SON TO DAYCARE AND I SEE THESE LARGE OFFICE BUILDINGS THAT ARE SITTING VACANT AND THEY JUST SEEM LIKE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY MAYBE FOR REZONING AND THEY JUST SEEM RIPE FOR PICKING. 
          MAYBE WE CAN MAKE, UTILIZE THOSE THAT OPEN SPACE FOR ARTS ART DISTRICT IN A NEW ARTS CULTURAL AREA. 
          YEAH, IT'S VERY PROMISING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, UH, I LOVE THIS SECTION. 
          I LOVE THAT YOU GUYS ARE CALLING OUT IDENTITY AND BRANDING FOR PETALUMA TO DRIVE TOURISM AND BUSINESS. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY SUPER SMART TO HIGHLIGHT THAT AND WANT TO, UM, ENHANCE THAT. 
          AND I WOULD EVEN EXPAND THIS, THIS SECTION 6.1. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT I WOULD ADD OFF 
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THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I FEEL LIKE THAT'S REALLY FERTILE GROUND FOR, FOR MORE IDEAS. 
          UM, AND THE OTHER THING I REALLY AM INTERESTED IN THE ARTS DISTRICT IDEA. 
          UM, I AM THE LIAISON WITH THE, THE ARTS CENTER AND THE FORMER DIRECTOR WAS INTERESTED IN CREATING AN ARTS DISTRICT, UM, AROUND FIRST STREET RIVER ARTS DISTRICT. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU KNEW ABOUT THIS. 
          UM, AND IT'S SORT OF, WE GATHERED A LOT OF THE PEOPLE TOGETHER, A LOT OF CREATIVES DOWN THERE, YOU KNOW, FROM THE CERAMICIST TO THE, THE FOLKS OVER IN, UM, UH, WATERSHED, YOU KNOW, THEIR ARTISAN FOOD OR MAKERS. 
          THERE'S SO MANY CREATIVES IN THAT AREA. 
          AND SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT SORT OF, SHE LEFT AND IT KIND OF GOT DROPPED. 
          BUT IT'S AN REALLY INTERESTING PROSPECT BECAUSE IT IS CLOSE TO THE RIVER. 
          THERE'S, IT'S A, IT'S A SHORT, VERY WALKABLE AREA. 
          IT'S CLOSE TO THE ART CENTER AND IT'S CLOSE TO THE, THE, THE SMART TRAIN. 
          SO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOME REAL CREATIVE THOUGHT GOING INTO MAKING THAT, UM, A DISTRICT THAT HAD, YOU KNOW, THURSDAY NIGHT KIND OF ART STROLLS AND THAT KIND OF THING. 
          IT COULD BE REALLY, REALLY INTERESTING AND LOOK AT SOME OF THE TOWNS AROUND US THAT ARE DOING IT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, SEBASTOPOL HAS THEIR WHOLE MARLA BARLOW AREA AND HEALDSBURG HAS A, UH, I THINK A CREATIVE WALK. 
          SO ANYWAY, PETALUMA SHOULD DEFINITELY DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          WE HAVE AN INCREDIBLE COMMUNITY OF MAKERS AND IF WE COULD COALESCE AROUND AN AREA, YOU KNOW, AND, AND REALLY INVITE TOURISM, I THINK THAT WOULD BE TERRIFIC. 
          COMMITTEE MEMBER BELTWAY. 
          I DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THAT, ANNE. 
          THAT'S REALLY COOL. 
          . 
          YEAH. 
          UM, I, I THINK THAT SIX IS VERY INSPIRING. 
          I THINK THERE'S A LOT TO BE DONE. 
          I THINK ADAPTIVE REUSE IS THE KEY TO EVERYTHING RESHAPING CITIES FOR THE FUTURE. 
          SO I, I LIKE THAT IT'S THAT YOU INCLUDED THIS AND THAT IT SEEMS TO BE A PRIORITY. 
          SO WHEN I WAS READING ABOUT, UH, 0.6, THAT'S WHERE I WAS THINKING IF WE HAD THIS CULTURAL ARTS, CULTURAL AFFAIRS COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE THEIR TARGET IS BUILDING INTO THE CULTURAL TOURISM AND GETTING PEOPLE OUTTA THEIR HOMES AND OUT OF WHERE THEY LIVE TO GO SEE THE ART AND GO ON THE ART WALKS AND HAVE AN ART, UM, BUS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE WOULD CALL IT, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU CAN HOP ON AND SEE THE ART THERE AND HOP OFF AND, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE TIMES WHEN I, I I'M IN OUR MEETINGS OR I'M REFLECTING ON WHAT HAPPENED IN A MEETING AND GOING SOMEWHERE IN TOWN AND THINKING, WHY DON'T WE DO THAT? YOU KNOW, AND MAYBE IT'S ON A SATURDAY MORNING WHEN THE KIDS CAN GO. 
          'CAUSE THE THURSDAY NIGHT ONES, THOSE ARE FOR GROWNUPS, RIGHT? UM, BUT IF IT WAS A SATURDAY MORNING OR SOMETHING, DO IT WHEN THE KIDS CAN GET INVOLVED. 
          I MEAN, I, I GO TO ALL THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE IN TOWN, LIKE MOST RECENTLY, THE ART, UM, THE, THE CARS, YOU KNOW, THE CAR EXHIBIT AND THE CAR CRUISING. 
          AND I WAS JUST THINKING, HOW DO WE GET MORE PEOPLE INVOLVED, MORE FAMILIES INVOLVED, MORE YOUTH INVOLVED? HOW DO WE DO THAT? SO READING THIS SECTION, UM, REALLY MADE ME START THINKING, HOW DO WE DO THIS? YES, WE WANNA DO THIS. 
          I'M GLAD IT'S IN. 
          AND THEN HOW DO WE DO IT? CHRISTOPHER, COULD I KIND OF PIGGYBACK ON ANNE AND CHERYL'S COMMENTS FOR A MOMENT? UM, I THINK WHAT'S MISSING FROM THIS ELEMENT FOR ME IS THE, UM, THE WHAT WE, OUR CURRENT ASSETS ARE GROWING AND WE JUST ADDED THE SECOND STATION FOR SMART TRAIN. 
          AND I FEEL LIKE WHAT I'M HEARING FROM KEVIN AND ANNE IS THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THERE TO HAVE A MATCHING ARTS DISTRICT ON THE EAST SIDE AND WE COULD USE THOSE SMART STATIONS AND THE ABILITY OF THE TRAIN TO BREAK, CREATE AND BRIDGE THAT REGIONAL DRAW. 
          UM, CURRENTLY THOSE CONNECTIONS ON THE EAST SIDE THAT'LL BE NEARBY ARE THOSE MICRO BREWERIES AND DISTILLERIES, WHICH ARE VERY FOCUSED ON ARTS EVENTS AND MUSIC AND CULTURAL EVENTS. 
          SO I THINK THERE IS ALREADY A, A VOICE THERE THAT'S COMING UP, BUT TO HAVE THAT HIGHLIGHTED WITHIN THIS FRAMEWORK WOULD SHOW THE EMPHASIS OF, UM, THAT ALSO TOUCHES ON EQUITY BECAUSE THE TRAIN AND CONNECTION WILL HELP SOMEBODY OUTSIDE OF A VEHICLE. 
          UM, AND IT ALSO TIES INTO THAT EXTENDING THAT ABILITY TO AN EAST WEST SIDE CONNECTION. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, THAT ABILITY WITH SMART IS REALLY KEY TO HOW WE COULD CREATE AN ADDITIONAL AND MATCHING DISTRICT ON THE EAST SIDE. 
          UM, I WOULD ALSO ADD 
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THE ABILITY THAT COMES WITH THE, UM, CITY'S MANAGEMENT OF THE FAIRGROUNDS. 
          THERE'S A STAGE ON SITE, THERE'S, UM, THINGS ON SITE THAT, AND POTENTIAL FOR AN ARTIST IN RESIDENCY POSSIBLY THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE FAIRGROUNDS IDENTIFIED AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SUPPLEMENT THE REGIONAL CREATIVE CENTER AND THE ACCESS FOR ALL AND THE EAST WEST CONNECTION 'CAUSE IT'S RIGHT THERE IN THE CENTER. 
          SO, UM, SORRY I'M PROVIDING SO MANY COMMENTS, BUT I FEEL LIKE THESE ARE A LITTLE BIT OF GAP AREAS THAT WOULD BE REALLY KEY TO HAVING THIS FRAMEWORK BE HOLISTIC AND BESPOKE TO OUR CURRENT ASSETS. 
          YEAH. 
          SO YOU DID, UM, COVER SOME OF WHAT I, UM, WAS GONNA RAISE. 
          IT WAS REALLY, I THINK IF YOU HAD A, IF YOU HAD AN ARTS DISTRICT, LIKE, UM, VICE CHAIR DIGGS WAS, WAS TALKING ABOUT, UM, SHE, UM, AS WAS PAINTED BY THE, A FEW YEARS AGO, IT WOULD BE INSPIRING IF WE HAD THAT RIGHT NOW. 
          I THINK WE'D ALL BE PRETTY JAZZED BY IT. 
          BUT GOING BACK TO AN EARLIER COMMENT FROM EARLIER IN THE MEETING, UM, IT IS VERY, IT IS SORT OF ENRICHING THE ALREADY RICH AREA IS THERE, SO AT, I THINK AT THE EXPENSE OF, OF THE REST OF TOWN. 
          SO MY QUESTION WOULD REALLY BE ABOUT EQUITY AND, UM, OUR PUBLIC ART SPECIALISTS DID A GOOD JOB OF, OF SUGGESTING DIFFERENT WAYS OF, OF BALANCING IT OUT. 
          AND SO MAYBE THERE'S SOME LANGUAGE IN HERE THAT CAN TALK REALLY ABOUT, UM, FIND, UM, THE WAY I LOOK AT IT IS THE WHOLE CITY IS, IS IS A CULTURAL CENTER. 
          AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE, UM, CAL LIKE THE, UM, CALIFORNIA CULTURAL DISTRICTS, IF YOU LOOK AT SAN RAFAEL'S, THE POINTS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THAT ARE REALLY SORT OF A LOOSE INTERPRETATION. 
          SOME ARE VERY, VERY SORT OF EASY TO UNDERSTAND, BUT THE REST OF THEM SORT OF HELP SUPPORT THE NOTION THAT THAT DISTRICT, UM, IT'S FAIRLY TIGHT GEOGRAPHICALLY, BUT IT'S, UM, CAN HANG TOGETHER AS A CULTURAL DISTRICT. 
          I, I PUT UP THE ECLECTIC AND SORT OF WIDE VARIETY OF THINGS HAPPENING IN PETALUMA, YOU KNOW, UP AGAINST THAT REALLY EASILY BECAUSE THERE'S, SO IF YOU COULD, UM, I'M NOT SURE HOW YOU COULD DO THAT, BUT I WOULD, ONE THING I WOULDN'T DO IS JUST SAY KEEP IT A NARROW, UM, CULTURAL DISTRICT. 
          MORE THAN ONE. 
          YEAH. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ANY FURTHER COMMENTS ON, UH, GOAL NUMBER SIX? I'D JUST LIKE TO, UH, RESPOND BRIEFLY. 
          UH, LOVE YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT, UH, THE ARTS DISTRICT, UH, POLICY. 
          AND THE NOTE I'M WRITING TO MYSELF IS WE NEED TO OPEN IT UP TO EXPLORING THE CREATION OF ONE OR MORE. 
          AND IT'S NOT JUST ARTS DISTRICT, BUT ARTS AND CULTURAL DISTRICTS BROADLY DEFINED. 
          AND, AND I CAN LIST SOME OF THE SPECIFIC OPPORTUNITIES YOU'VE JUST MENTIONED. 
          AS FOR INSTANCES IN THE LANGUAGE, I HOPE THANK YOU. 
          WE'RE CON, I HOPE I'M CONVEYING THAT THIS DISCUSSION IS SUPER PRODUCTIVE FROM OUR POINT OF VIEW AND WE, WE REALLY LOVE THE, YOUR EXPANSIVE THINKING. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU FOR ACKNOWLEDGING THAT. 
          SO WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO GOAL NUMBER SEVEN. 
          UM, THIS IS OUR LAST GOAL. 
          SO, UH, COMM COMMITTEE MEMBER MERINGUE, JUST AS A MACRO FINAL CLOSING COMMENT, I THINK THIS GENERAL PLAN IS VERY PROMISING AND I'M EXCITED TO SEE HOW IT EVOLVES PETALUMA AS I RAISE MY FAMILY HERE. 
          I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT IN GOING BACK TO THIS POST COVID WORLD WHERE THESE HIGH SKILLED, HIGH EARNING, UM, EMPLOYEE, UH, PEOPLE HAVE A CHOICE TO WORK REMOTELY ANYWHERE IN THE UNITED STATES. 
          IT'S BEEN OPENED UP TO 'EM THAT PETALUMA'S ART AND CULTURE IS WHAT THEY'RE GONNA BE LOOKING FOR, AND THAT'S GONNA ENTICE HIGH EARNERS A HIGHER ECONOMY. 
          SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE FOCUS ON MAKING IT ACCESSIBLE FOR ARTISTS TO COME HERE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THESE PEOPLE ARE ALSO LOOKING FOR IS A BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY TO LIVE IN. 
          BUT ALSO, AND THE VERY LAST POINT HERE IS MANAGING GENTRIFICATION, WHICH AT THE SAME TIME, IT STILL NEEDS TO BE AFFORDABLE FOR THEM. 
          SO I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THAT HAS A POINT THERE, BUT THAT'S JUST BEEN THE THOUGHT THAT'S BEEN KICKING AROUND MY HEAD. 
          UM, MY AGE COHORT HAS THIS NEW OPPORTUNITY THAT WE CAN GO AND CHERRY PICK THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE WANNA LIVE IN. 
          WE DON'T HAVE TO GO DOWN TO CUPERTINO TO WORK FOR APPLE OR MEADOW. 
          WE CAN FIND A SMALL ART COMMUNITY UP IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA AND JUST TELECOMMUTE TO THEM. 
          SO I HOPE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THIS GENERAL PLAN CAN FOSTER AND PROMOTE IN THE NEXT 25 YEARS. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR ACCEPTING OUR COMMENTS AND UM, THIS DISCUSSION. 
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IT'S BEEN VERY POSITIVE. 
          IT YOU, I APPLAUD THAT THAT WAS REALLY WELL ARTICULATED. 
          THANK YOU KEVIN. 
          AND YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          UM, WE DO, YOU KNOW, THE WORLD HAS CHANGED GEOGRAPHICALLY, PHYSICALLY, THE WAY WE WORK, WHERE WE LIVE, WHY WE DO THOSE THINGS IN THOSE COMMUNITIES WE DO. 
          AND PETALUMA IS STILL A VERY, VERY ATTRACTIVE PLACE. 
          UM, 30 MINUTES TO THE CITY, YOU KNOW, UH, A TOWN FULL OF, UM, CREATIVE INDIVIDUALS AND WE HAVE TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO KEEP MOVING HERE FOR, TO SUPPORT WHAT WE ALREADY LOVE AND APPRECIATE ABOUT OUR CITY. 
          SO, UM, I THINK A STRONG ART FOOTPRINT IS, IS PART OF THAT ATTRACTION. 
          SO, AND I THINK YOU ALL RECOGNIZE IT. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEXT STEPS. 
          I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU, ALL THE WORK YOU PUT INTO THIS. 
          I THINK THIS IS REALLY POSITIVE MOVING FORWARD AND I THINK THAT IT WILL SHAPE UP TO BE PRETTY GREAT. 
          I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS, SO THANK YOU. 
          UM, THE ONE THING I WANTED TO ADD, AND I KNOW WE WENT OVER 0.1 A LONG TIME AGO, BUT I MISSED MY COMMENT TO MYSELF WAS I REALLY LIKED THAT YOU INCLUDED THE RAILROAD TRESTLE AS A POSSIBLE PUBLIC ART PROJECT. 
          AND I KNOW THAT'S GOING BACK TO THE HISTORICAL PART AND IT'S GOING BACK TO THE DOWNTOWN, BUT I THINK THAT IS SUCH A TREASURED AREA. 
          UM, AND YOU KNOW, MAYBE THAT'S WHERE WE GET MORE INVOLVED WITH PUBLIC PRIVATE FUNDING TO DO THAT. 
          AND I, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S VERY CLOSE TO THE WATER DISTRICT WHERE OUR BOAT VISITORS COME AND IT'S NOT THAT FAR AWAY FROM THE TRAIN, UM, YOU KNOW, STATION. 
          SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT YOU INCLUDED THAT. 
          AND THEN JUST TO WRAP UP YES, NO OTHER COMMENTS ABOUT 0.7, UM, JUST THAT IT'S, IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE A BIT OF A DANCE. 
          HOW DO YOU GENTRIFY IT ENOUGH TO GET MORE PEOPLE COMING BUT NOT GENTRIFY IT TOO MUCH THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE, I CAN'T FIND THEIR SPACE. 
          SO IT'S A FINE DANCE, BUT THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK ON THIS. 
          SO I HAVE NO COMMENTS ON THIS, UM, ON THIS GOAL. 
          AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR THE, UH, THE WORK AND THE ENDURANCE YOU'VE SHOWN, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT. 
          IT'S PROBABLY A LONG MONTH FOR YOU GUYS. 
          UM, AND IF YOU'D LIKE, IF YOU HAVE ANY CLOSING COMMENTS, WE'D LOVE TO HEAR THEM. 
          CHRISTOPHER, IF I COULD JUST ADD ONE COMMENT TO THIS SECTION, IF YOU DON'T MIND. 
          UM, I'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THE GENTRIFICATION CONVERSATION AND IT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW FOR OUR ARTS COMMUNITY. 
          UM, THE COST OF LIVING HERE IS SO EXPONENTIALLY OUTPACED THE VALUE OF ART IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT WHEN WE ARE DEVELOPING LOW INCOME HOUSING, I BELIEVE THERE SHOULD BE CONSIDERATION FOR ARTISTS AND THAT LOW INCOME HOUSING SHOULD HAVE A COMPONENT OF LIVE WORKSPACE SO THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING AT HOME AND PRODUCING AT HOME HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE ACCESS. 
          WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF LARGE ARTISTS IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT HAVE RECENTLY LOST THEIR STUDIO SPACE ARTISTS THAT ARE INCREDIBLY VALUED AND IT'S JUST NOT ATTAINABLE. 
          AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HIGH PRODUCING, UM, VERY EXPENSIVE ARTWORKS. 
          AND SO I THINK THAT PART OF OUR CONVERSATION IS HOW TO INCUBATE THAT ARTS COMMUNITY BECAUSE OFTEN ARTISTS ARE THE IN GENTRIFIER THAT INCLUDE THAT IMPROVE SPACE SO THAT OTHER PEOPLE FEEL COMFORTABLE MOVING IN. 
          AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER LIKE ARTISTS OF EVERY INCOME LEVEL AND HOW DO WE SUPPORT THAT? BECAUSE NO ARTIST, WE CAN'T GROW AN ARTS COMMUNITY IF THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT HERE. 
          AND THAT'S JUST THE REALITY, BECAUSE THERE WON'T BE NEW VOICES, THERE WILL ONLY BE ESTABLISHED AND MARKETABLE VOICES. 
          AND SO IT'S REALLY PERTINENT THAT AS WE LOOK AT, LIKE OUR HOUSING GOALS, THAT THEY INCLUDE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE WHO WORK FROM HOME AND PRODUCE FROM HOME. 
          BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT PRICE PER SQUARE FOOT AND THE SCALABILITY OF THAT TO AN ARTIST'S NEEDS, IT'S, IT'S UNATTAINABLE IN THIS CURRENT MARKET. 
          SO THIS CONVERSATION REALLY NEEDS TO HAVE THAT KIND OF ELEMENT TO IT IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE SUSTAINABLE AND HAVE A GROWTH ELEMENT TO IT WHEN ANY OF THE PRESENTERS, UM, LIKE TO SHARE ANY CLOSING COMMENTS. 
          ALL RIGHT, DAVID, RON? UM, JUST WANNA ECHO, UH, WHAT MELISSA SAID, AND, UM, WE WANNA ADD SOME LANGUAGE TO THAT EFFECT. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT. 
          [02:15:01]
THANK YOU. 
          RON, ANYTHING, ANY FOLLOW UP QUESTION? JUST, JUST WARM. 
          THANKS. 
          I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE HOW THOUGHTFUL ALL OF YOU WERE. 
          UM, EXTREMELY HELPFUL COMMENTS. 
          AS DAVID NOTED EARLIER, VERY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR TAKING THE TIME TO READ THROUGH THIS AND, AND SHARE YOUR SUBSTANTIVE COMMENTS. 
          IT'S EXTREMELY HELPFUL FOR US. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE SAT THROUGH A LOT OF THESE KINDS OF SESSIONS AND YOU GUYS ARE STARS. 
          THANK YOU, . 
          WELL, THAT'S A GOOD NOTE TO END ON. 
          , THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING AND FOR, YOU KNOW, BEING AVAILABLE ON A SPECIAL MEETING SO WE COULD, WE COULD HAVE OUR FULL COMPLIMENT HERE TO PRESENT TO YOU. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WITH THAT WE'LL CLOSE, UH, AGENDA ITEM TWO. 
          AND JUST A REMINDER, WE NEED TO PROVIDE OUR WRITTEN COMMENTS BY JUNE 7TH. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND MOVE ON TO 
          [COMMITTEE COMMENT]
AGENDA ITEM THREE, WHICH IS COMMITTEE COMMENT. 
          AND SINCE WE'RE USED TO GOING FROM, UH, DIA RIGHT TO LEFT, UH, COMMITTEE MEMBER MARING, UM, OH, JUST A REMINDER, WHAT, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE IS, UM, INCLUDE, UH, SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS IF YOU HAVE THEM, AND, UH, THEN YOUR PERSONAL OBSERVATIONS, UM, THAT YOU CAN BRING TO FROM THE OUTSIDE WORLD OVER THE PAST MONTH TO BRING TO THE COMMITTEE. 
          NO COMMENTS. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, LET'S SEE. 
          OKAY, I CAN REPORT ON THE MCCHESNEY ACQUISITION. 
          AND FIRST OF ALL, UM, MELISSA'S BEEN VERY HELPFUL IN MOVING THIS FORWARD. 
          AND WE'RE AT A PLACE WHERE WE WANT TO TRADE IN ONE OF THE PIECES OF ART, THE OWL BUNCH, I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT IT LAST COMMITTEE MEETING, AND ALSO A SCULPTURE THAT HAS A, A WINGED GODDESS. 
          SHE HAS A METAL PIECE ON HER HEAD AND HER LEG IS OUTSTRETCHED, WHICH CAN'T BEAR WEIGHT. 
          SO ANYWAY, THE VERMICULITE IS NOT AS STABLE AS WE WOULD HOPED IT WOULD BE. 
          UM, ANYWAY, UM, MELISSA HAS BEEN IN TOUCH WITH DENNIS KALBI AND IT LOOKS LIKE HE IS AMENABLE TO TRADING IN SOME OF THE PIECES AND HE HAS A BRONZE THAT WE CAN LOOK AT. 
          UM, AND THEN WE'RE ALSO, AND THIS JUST, WE HAVEN'T HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS, BUT THE IDEA WAS FLOATED OUT THAT PERHAPS WE COULD EXCHANGE, UH, ONE OF THE SCULPTURES OR PORTION, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER'S EQUITABLE, UM, FOR A 2D PAINTING OR PRINT FROM, UH, DONE BY MARY'S HUSBAND, ROBERT CHIP MCCHESNEY, WHO WAS ALSO VERY, UM, A WELL-ESTABLISHED ARTIST AND REGIONALLY KNOWN. 
          SO MELISSA, YOU PROBABLY HAVE MORE TO COMMENT ON THIS, BUT I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GREAT TO FLOAT OUT TO THE COMMITTEE THAT WE MAY BE, WE'RE CONSIDERING, UH, SOME SORT OF 2D ARTWORK IN EXCHANGE FOR ONE OF THE THREE DS. 
          AND WHAT ELSE AM I REPORTING ON? UH, FINE BALANCE. 
          UM, A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT ON THAT. 
          I THINK THAT WOULD BE BEST ENCAPSULATED BY MELISSA BECAUSE SHE'S ON THE FRONT LINES OF THAT. 
          AND THEN AS FAR AS BUDGET AND GRANTS, YES, I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          COMMITTEE MEMBER BELTWAY. 
          I KNOW WE DON'T KNOW IF WE ACTUALLY HAVE A FUNDRAISING OR A FUNDING SUBCOMMITTEE YET, BUT I DID START LOOKING AT ONE GRANT, POSSIBLE GRANT THAT MELISSA SENT MEAN IT WASN'T GONNA WORK OUT, BUT I DID REALIZE THAT I'M FROM MARIN, SO I THINK A LOT ABOUT SAN RAFAEL AND THEIR PUBLIC ART AND HOW SUCCESSFUL I THINK IT IS AND HOW MUCH THEY KEEP INCREASING IT. 
          AND I WAS GONNA REACH OUT TO THEIR CITY COUNCIL AND SEE IF THEY WANNA MEET WITH ME OR TALK TO ME ABOUT WHAT THEY'VE DONE, HOW THEY KICKED OFF REALLY REINVIGORATING THE DOWNTOWN FORESTRY, ET CETERA, AND SEE WHAT THEY KNOW ABOUT PRIVATE FUNDING AND HOW THAT COULD WORK FOR US. 
          COMMITTEE MEMBER COLD IRON. 
          WELL, I DON'T HAVE AN UPDATE ON WOVEN STORIES, BUT I WAS HOPING MAYBE YOU OR MELISSA DID. 
          YEAH, I DON'T HAVE AN UPDATE ON WOVEN STORIES EITHER THAT I'M THE OTHER PART OF THAT, UM, SUBCOMMITTEE WITH, WITH CHERYL. 
          AND, UM, WE'LL LEAVE THAT TO, TO STAFF COMMENT. 
          I GUESS, UM, MY COMMITTEE COMMENT WOULD BE, UM, I GUESS I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE, UH, WORK PLAN FOR THE YEAR. 
          I KNOW THAT MAYBE I'LL JUST ASK STAFF TO, TO COMMENT ON THIS. 
          UM, TRADITIONALLY WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF CREATING A WORK PLAN FOR THE YEAR TO, TO SEE WHAT, WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE DOING AND WHERE THE MONEY'S GONNA BE GOING. 
          SINCE NOT MUCH MONEY'S GONNA BE GOING ANYWHERE. 
          UM, WE CAN HAVE A, UH, WE CAN GET CREATIVE WITH WHAT THE WORK PLAN COULD BE. 
          UM, BUT 
          [02:20:01]
I'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM THAT, TO HEAR FROM HER ON THAT. 
          AND THEN WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, FINE BALANCE AS A SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBER THERE, I'LL ALSO LEAVE THAT TO STAFF SINCE UM, SHE'S GOT THE INSIDE SCOOP AND ANY OTHER COMMITTEE COMMENTS. 
          GREAT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WITH THAT WE'LL CLOSE COMMITTEE COMMENT AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO, 
          [STAFF COMMENT]
UM, AGENDA ITEM FOUR, WHICH IS STAFF COMMENT. 
          WELL, UM, A PUBLIC ART SPECIALIST, MELISSA ABERCROMBIE WILL TAKE THAT OVER. 
          THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR THOUGHTFUL COMMENTS TONIGHT. 
          I KNOW IT TOOK A LOT OF WORK AND THAT REALLY, THAT REALLY CAME THROUGH. 
          AND I'M ALSO GRATEFUL TO RAMEY AND HEATHER HINES FOR THEIR COORDINATION TONIGHT. 
          IT'S, IT'S HARD TO GET EVERYBODY TOGETHER AND PUT THAT MUCH WORK INTO EVERYTHING AND IT REALLY WAS REFLECTED IN YOUR COMMENTS. 
          UM, SO I WILL START WITH FINE BALANCE SINCE THAT'S REALLY TEED UP RIGHT NOW TO MOVE FULL STEAM AHEAD. 
          UM, THERE WERE REVISIONS TO THE PROJECT THAT CAME ABOUT, UH, TOWARDS THE END OF APRIL. 
          COULD YOU ENLARGE THE, UH, IMAGE ON THE SCREEN PLEASE? UM, SURE. 
          TELL ME HOW BIG YOU WANT IT. 
          UM, IS THAT BETTER? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I APOLOGIZE IT HAS THE WRONG DATE ON THE TOP OF IT, SO, AND JUST PLEASE IGNORE THAT I AM KIND OF HIDING IT. 
          SO THE REVISION APPLICATION, OR THE REVISION TO THE PLANNING APPLICATION CAME ABOUT ABOUT SIX WEEKS AGO WHEN THE ARTIST CREATED THE FINISHED PIECE IN HIS STUDIO. 
          HE'S NEARING COMPLETION RIGHT NOW AND HE RECOGNIZED A NEED FOR AN ELEVATION CHANGE IN ORDER TO HAVE IT BE CREATED IN HIS STUDIO AND THEN LAYOUT AT THE SITE, WHICH REINFORCED PREVIOUS COMMITTEE COMMENTS AND PLANNING CONCERNS AT THE ELEVATION MIGHT MAKE THE PIECES, UH, LESS DISCERNING FROM GROUND LEVEL. 
          SO IT WAS A NICE REVISION. 
          UM, THE PIECES HAVE GONE FROM 22 FOOT ELEVATION TO 18 AND 19 TO 15. 
          THERE'S A LITTLE FLEXIBILITY THERE, BUT IT DID NOT, UH, REQUIRE ANY ADDITIONAL ENGINEERING. 
          SO AS OF TODAY, THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED AND IT'S GONE THROUGH PLANNING AND THE PERMIT IS NOW READY FOR CONSTRUCTION. 
          UM, SO A LOT OF UPDATES. 
          I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH YOU GUYS WANT ME TO COVER, BUT I'LL TRY TO DO IT QUICK. 
          UM, THINK OF MYSELF AS AN AUCTIONEER. 
          UM, SO THE ARTIST HAS PURCHASED WHITE AND OFF-WHITE PAINT TO PAINT EACH OF THE PIECES. 
          THEY, ONE WILL HAVE COPPER FEET, THE OTHER WILL NOT. 
          THERE IS, UM, THE STILTS WILL HAVE A WOOD GRAIN ELEMENT TO THEM THAT IS PAINTED TO LOOK LIKE WOOD. 
          UM, HE'S GETTING LOCAL SUPPORT, UH, AND ASSISTANCE IN HIS STUDIO DOING THAT RIGHT NOW. 
          SO THAT WAS KIND OF NICE THAT PETALUMA RESIDENTS ARE INVOLVED IN THAT PORTION OF THIS. 
          THE SOLAR HAS BEEN DEVELOPING, UM, IT'S BEEN A REALLY HEAVY LIFT, BUT IT'S COMING TOGETHER. 
          SO WE HAVE SECURED DONOR TRENCHING AND EQUIPMENT FOR THE CONDUIT FROM THE PIECES TO A NEW SOLAR PANEL ON SITE. 
          WE HAVE MINOR FUNDING TO HELP CONTRIBUTE TO THE, THE, THE COMPONENTS MIKE FROM HOLLY SOLAR WILL BE ASSEMBLING. 
          UM, WE ARE A LOCAL SOLAR CONTRACTOR IS CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH THEIR WAREHOUSE TO SEE WHICH COMPONENTS THEY MIGHT HAVE AVAILABLE FOR DONATION. 
          SO WHILE THIS IS A SCOPE, A PROJECT THAT'S SCOPED OUTSIDE OF OUR FUNDING MEANS IT IS COMING TOGETHER, UM, MIKE HOLLABAUGH FROM HOLLY SOLAR HAS REDUCED THE WATTAGE NEEDS TO 200 WATTS, WHICH ALLOWS FOR A REDUCED SOLAR ARRAY. 
          SO IT WAS GONNA PROBABLY COME IN AT LIKE THREE FOOT BY SIX TO NINE FOOT. 
          SO NOW IT'S BEEN REDUCED TO APPROXIMATELY 28 INCHES BY 59 BECAUSE OF THE, UM, DONATED EXCAVATION OF CONDUIT PUBLIC WORKS IS NOW CONSIDERING ALLOWING US, OH, I SHOULD BACK UP FOR A MINUTE. 
          UH, PUBLIC WORKS IS GONNA PARTNER WITH US TO INSTALL A NEW PARKING SIGN BECAUSE THE NO PARKING SIGN IS FADED AND NO LONGER LEGIBLE AND IT'S ALSO BENT. 
          SO BECAUSE THEY'RE WILLING TO DO THAT AND BECAUSE OF THE DONATION OF THE TRENCHING FOR CONDUIT, WE CAN ACTUALLY MOVE THE SITE OF THAT SIGN SLIGHTLY BACK TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PARKING. 
          UM, IT'S KIND OF GORILLA STYLE ENTRANCE TO THE BACK SITE, BUT WE CAN MOVE IT OVER A LITTLE FURTHER AND DO A RED CURB. 
          SO NOW IT'S OUT OF THE LINE OF SIGHT OF THE PIECES MUCH FURTHER AND IT REDUCES THE NEED FOR A SIX INCH POLE TO MORE LIKE A 3.75 OR FOUR INCH POLE, WHICH WILL BE REALLY NICE. 
          SO IT WILL BE WELL CONSTRUCTED BY PUBLIC WORKS AND IT TAKES IT OUT OF OUR NEEDS RIGHT NOW. 
          SO IT'S REALLY BEEN THIS LIKE KIND OF COALESCENCE OF SUPPORT, UM, PUBLIC WORKS. 
          I HAD A MEETING WITH THEM LAST WEEK THAT'S MOVING FORWARD PRETTY QUICKLY. 
          IT'S JUST KEEPING EVERYBODY TOGETHER. 
          I'M NOT A PROFESSIONAL PROJECT MANAGER FOR A SOLAR ARRAY, SO THEIR SUPPORT IS GRATEFULLY 
          [02:25:01]
GREATLY APPRECIATED. 
          UM, A COMMUNICATIONS PLAN HAS BEEN DEVELOPING AROUND THIS, UM, CHRISTOPHER AND I MET THIS WEEK WITH LOCAL NEWS MEDIA AND UM, THE PIECES WILL HAVE A FACTUAL, UM, REALLY HELPFUL COMMUNICATION THAT INVOLVES THE ARTIST'S VOICE AND THE COMMITTEE'S VOICE. 
          UM, ALSO THERE'S, UH, WE'RE COORDINATING SCHEDULE RIGHT NOW FOR EXCAVATION AND PAD INSTALL FOR EARLY JUNE. 
          THAT WOULD, UM, THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR A 21 DAY CURING PERIOD THAT WOULD THEN LEAD INTO AN INSTALLATION IN JULY. 
          THE ARTIST HAS MANY IDEAS ON HOW THAT INSTALLATION WOULD LOOK AS PART OF, POTENTIALLY PART OF THE, THE RIVERTOWN REVIVAL OR SOME OTHER LIKE KIND OF MORE EVENT LIKE HAPPENING AROUND THE INSTALL. 
          SO TO BE CONTINUED AS THAT EVOLVES, I WOULD, I WOULD LOVE TO COMMUNICATE TO THAT, TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND HOPEFULLY IT MIGHT BE HAPPENING AT A PACE THAT OUTPACES OUR MEETINGS. 
          SO WE'LL SEE AND I'LL TRY TO KEEP YOU INFORMED AS MUCH AS I CAN. 
          UM, WE ARE CON CONTINUING BEYOND THE COORDINATION WITH PUBLIC WORKS TO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT FOR TEMPORARY FENCING. 
          THEY HAVE DEDICATED THE FUNDING FOR THAT AND RIGHT NOW WE ARE IDENTIFYING THE SOURCES FOR THAT. 
          UM, SOILS REMOVAL, IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL NEED FOR SOILS REMOVAL DURING EXCAVATION THAT CANNOT BE USED IN THE RECHARGE OF THE SITE AND TOP DRESSING. 
          THE PARKS DEPARTMENT IS ALSO, UM, COMMITTED TO THE TOP DRESSING, WHICH WILL EITHER BE DG OR OYSTER SHELL. 
          THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A PREFERENCE FOR OYSTER SHELL SINCE THAT'S ALREADY ON THE SITE AND WON'T REQUIRE THE SAME UM, CONDITIONS AS DG BECAUSE IT'S USUALLY INSTALLED IN A MULTI-LAYER SYSTEM THAT MAKES IT MORE COST, MORE COSTLY AND LESS EFFICIENT FOR OUR TIMELINE AND WOULD ALSO REQUIRE THE REMOVAL OF OYSTER SHELL SO THAT OUR MATERIALS ARE CONSISTENT SO YOU'RE NOT SEEING BREAKTHROUGH. 
          AND AS FAR AS SITE CONDITIONS RIGHT NOW, IT'S ALREADY PRETTY WORN. 
          UH, IT'S ALMOST WORN THROUGH IN MULTIPLE AREAS. 
          IT IS WORN THROUGH IN MULTIPLE AREAS, SO, UM, IT'S GONNA BE REALLY NICE AND THAT WILL HAPPEN AFTER INSTALLATION AND BEFORE AN UNVEILING. 
          SO, UM, IT'S PROBABLY TIME TO CONSIDER AN UNVEILING COMMITTEE OR SOME KIND OF A BITS COMMITTEE TO START COORDINATING THAT AND DEVELOPING A TEAM OF OUTSIDE PARTIES WHO HAVE SHOWN AN INTEREST IN ALSO BEING A PART OF THAT. 
          SO, UM, I WOULD HA BE HAPPY TO HELP FACILITATE THAT AFTER WE'VE ESTABLISHED WHO WOULD BE ON THAT. 
          UM, AN INTERESTING ITEM CAME UP THIS WEEK THAT I JUST WANNA PUT ON YOUR RADAR. 
          I WAS READING THE COMMUNITY UPDATES THAT'S PUT OUT WEEKLY BY COMMS AND I CAME ACROSS A PROJECT FOR FIRST STREET PIPE REPLACEMENT FROM F THROUGH H THAT'S TAKING PLACE ANY MOMENT NOW. 
          AND SO THAT WAS AN INTERESTING DEVELOPMENT. 
          SO I CONTACTED MARY WHITE, THE PLANNING LEAD ON IT, AND WE ARE WORKING IN COORDINATION TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS CLEAR ACCESS AND THAT OUR TIMELINES DO NOT INTERSECT. 
          UM, THIS PROJECT IS EXCITING ON SO MANY LEVELS, UM, BUT WE ARE NEARING THE END AND SO THAT'S, IT'S REALLY NICE THAT WE'RE GETTING IN A REALLY GOOD SPOT. 
          AND THAT'S AS BIG OF AN UPDATE AS I REALLY HAVE. 
          SO, UM, WOVEN STORIES, THERE'S BEEN NO PROGRESS. 
          I WAS TOLD BY RUDY CALDERON THAT THAT DRAWINGS AND FINAL SUBMISSION WOULD HAPPEN LAST MONTH AT THE END OF LAST MONTH AND IT DID NOT HAPPEN. 
          AND I'VE SENT HIM SEVERAL CORRESPONDENCES OVER THE LAST FEW DAYS FOR AN UPDATE AND THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED. 
          SO AS SOON AS I HAVE THAT I WILL REPORT TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND I'VE ASKED HIM THAT, THAT BE EXPEDITED SO THAT WE CAN CREATE A PROJECT TIMELINE FOR THIS SUMMER AND INSTALL THAT WORKS WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, UM, ONTO KENILWORTH PLAYGROUND. 
          THERE'S BEEN NO DEVELOPMENTS EXCEPT FOR THAT. 
          I'VE CONTINUED MY BIMONTHLY MEETINGS, I'VE SHORTENED MY INTERACTIONS SO THAT I CAN HEAR THE BEGINNINGS AND NOT, UM, USE TOO MUCH STAFF TIME TOWARDS THAT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE'RE REALLY IN A HOLDING PATTERN UNTIL IT'S PRESENTED TO COUNCIL, WHICH IT'S LOOKING LIKE THE AUGUST COUNCIL MEETING. 
          I WILL HAVE AN UPDATE FOR THAT IN JUNE AND JULY AS THINGS PROGRESS. 
          UM, THE ARTIST HAS COMPLETED HIS COMMITMENTS TO THE PROJECT ASIDE FROM ATTENDING THOSE MEETINGS. 
          SO I WILL BE MOVING FORWARD WITH INVOICING THE ARTIST, HIS PAYMENTS FOR THE REMAINDER OF HIS BUDGET, WHICH IS $20,000. 
          SO HE'S BEEN PAID ONE THIRD OF HIS INSTALLMENTS AND I WILL UPDATE YOU ON THE DATE THAT THAT IS PROVIDED. 
          UM, LET'S SEE, ONTO MARY FULLER MCCHESNEY AND PROVIDED A REALLY THOROUGH ACCOUNTING OF THAT. 
          UM, I DO HAVE, UM, LET'S 
          [02:30:01]
SEE IF I CAN SWITCH TO THE IMAGES JUST SO THAT I CAN GIVE YOU GUYS AN IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR IN CASE IT'S NOT IMMEDIATELY IN YOUR VISUAL CATALOG. 
          UM, AND I APOLOGIZE THE, THE TOOLBAR FOR ZOOM BLOCKS ALL MY ITEMS. UM, THERE WE GO. 
          SO THE PIECES THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT REPLACING, UM, OUR, IS IT SHARING? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THESE ARE PIECES WE ARE KEEPING, THE PIECES WE ARE LOOKING AT REPLACING ARE THIS OWL BENCH. 
          AND SO WHAT WE'RE SEEING WITH THE CONDITION ISSUES IS THAT THERE'S A SCRAPING THAT REMOVES A VERMICULITE AROUND HERE. 
          AND AS YOU REMEMBER, SOME OF THE CONSTRUCTION PIECES WEREN'T, THEY WERE LIKE NON-RES, PRESERVATION MINDED CORE PIECES THAT THE VERMICULITE WAS PLACED ON TOP OF. 
          SO IT LOOKS LIKE MAYBE THINGS ARE SCRAPING AND LIKE MANY PEOPLE LIKE TO PICK A SCAB, IT'S KIND OF HAPPENING HERE WHERE WHILE IT'S ON SITE, IT'S JUST GETTING A LITTLE BIT MESSED WITH. 
          AND SO DENNIS WAS VERY CONSIDERATE IN ALLOWING US THAT PEACE RETURN, WHICH WAS $4,800. 
          SO THAT'S LUCKY. 
          AND THIS WOMAN WITH AL, WHICH WE HAD ACQUIRED WITH THE INTENTION OF HAVING AT THE SENIOR CENTER, UM, WE, WHEN ANN AND I RETURNED TO THE SITE AND MET WITH THE ARCHIVIST AND WHO POTENTIAL MOVERS BRING MAXFIELD, SHE POINTED OUT TO US THAT THIS ALSO IS A TOTEM AND THAT THIS ARMATURE OF A LEG COULD BE A REAL WEAK SPOT FOR PUBLIC INTERACTION. 
          AND I ALSO HEARD FROM THE SENIOR CENTER THAT THEY WERE NOT EXCITED ABOUT A, A SLIGHTLY LOWER ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENT THAT'S MADE OF METAL BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF FALLS AND RISKS. 
          SO I THOUGHT THOSE TWO ELEMENTS MAKE IT IDEAL FOR SOMETHING TO TRADE BACK IN AND, AND DEFINITELY SUPPORTED THAT DECISION. 
          UM, SO JUST FOR A REFERENCE POINT AND THEN I WILL MOVE ON TO A POSSIBLE TRADE. 
          UM, THIS IS ONE OF THE BRONZE PIECES THAT'S IN THE KLAI GALLERY THAT IS KIND OF A DEPARTURE FROM WHAT MARY TRADITIONALLY DID, BUT THE BRONZE IS KIND OF INFLUENCED BY THE ARTIST MORE. 
          UM, THIS WAS SOMETHING SHE ORIGINALLY CREATED IN LIKE 1947 I BELIEVE, AND THEN SHE CHOSE TO HAVE IT LATER CAST IN BRONZE. 
          THERE AREN'T A LOT OF THESE MADE, SO IT'S PARTICULARLY OF INTEREST BECAUSE, UM, WHERE SHE MIGHT'VE REPLICATED THE OTHER BRONZE PIECES WE PURCHASED. 
          THIS ONE'S VERY UNIQUE AND I THINK THAT EVEN THOUGH IT'S 24 BY APPROXIMATELY 24 INCHES, IT COULD LOOK REALLY GREAT ON A PEDESTAL AND MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY A WARM AND THOUGHTFUL APPROACH FOR SOMEWHERE LIKE THE SENIOR CENTER OR POTENTIALLY CITY HALL AS WE DEVELOP PARTNERS, UM, IN THE INSTALL. 
          SO WITH THAT, I WILL MOVE BACK TO MY, UM, LET'S SEE. 
          I APOLOGIZE, I MIGHT STOP SCREEN SHARING ACTUALLY BECAUSE WE ARE AT MARY PHIL MCCHESNEY WAS REALLY THE LAST ELEMENT THAT REALLY HAD AN UPDATE. 
          SO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OF ANY ADDITIONAL ELEMENTS THAT I'M LEAVING OUT OR ANY OTHER PIECES YOU WOULD LIKE AN UPDATE, IT'S BEEN A PRETTY ACTIVE TIME FOR PUBLIC ART AS FAR AS LIKE WHAT WE'RE ACCOMPLISHING. 
          AND I KNOW IT'S OUT OF THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE'S PURVIEW, BUT, UM, FULL STEAM AHEAD ON THE PUBLIC ART PROJECT AT THE FAIRGROUNDS. 
          UM, TO DATE MICHAEL DARLINGTON AND I HAVE COORDINATED THE PHOTO, I'VE COORDINATED THE PHOTOGRAPHY AND MADE THE APPOINTMENTS AND MICHAEL HAS PHOTOGRAPHED OVER 120 PEOPLE FOR THE PROJECT. 
          IT'S BECOME A REALLY CRAZY ALMOST NPR PIECE. 
          UM, I FEEL LIKE ALL THAT COORDINATING HAS ALLOWED ME A, A VERY INTERESTING PERSPECTIVE INTO PEOPLE'S VALUES OF THE FAIRGROUNDS AND THEIR EXPERIENCES THERE. 
          AND SO I REALLY THINK THIS PIECE IS GONNA BE QUITE THE COMMUNICATION TO THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE CITY'S VALUES MOVING FORWARD AND THE COMMUNITY'S VALUES MOVING FORWARD AND HOW WE DEVELOP THE FAIRGROUNDS AND THE THE FAIR. 
          SO I, UM, AND I DON'T MEAN DEVELOPMENT LIKE, LIKE DEVELOP IT, I MEAN THE ACTUAL CULTURE AROUND IT AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AS WE DEVELOP THIS NEW RELATIONSHIP. 
          SO, UM, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR, THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF EXCITEMENT AHEAD, SO, OKAY. 
          SO, UM, MAYBE FOR NEXT TIME, MELISSA, YOU COULD, UH, TAKE A LOOK AT THE, UH, UM, THE ANNUAL WORK PLAN. 
          YES. 
          I MEAN, UM, ONE PART 
          [02:35:01]
THAT I THINK SHOULD BE IN YOUR SHORT VISION OF WHERE WE'RE WORKING IS ONCE FINE BALANCE IS RESOLVED AND WOVEN STORIES, OUR EMPHASIS IS GONNA BE MARY FULLER MCCHESNEY LOOKING AT THE LYNCH CREEK TRAIL AND HOW WE GET THOSE FRAGMENTS IN. 
          I'M ALSO WORKING ON THAT, THAT I FEEL WHAT WE DO SOLAR WISE ON FINE BALANCE WILL INFORM WHAT WE DO WITH THE RIVER ARCH. 
          AND THEN WE ARE GONNA BE WORKING WITH CATHERINE GREGOR TO START VISIONING THE GROWTH OF OUR ORDINANCE AND THE EXPANSION OF IT. 
          AND IT'S REALLY GREAT THAT ANDREW TRIPLE, SO THE, OUR CITY'S PLANNING MANAGER AND MYSELF, WE WILL BE MEETING IN THE NEXT WEEK WITH CATHERINE TO BEGIN THAT CONVERSATION FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE. 
          AND WE'LL SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE WITH HER VOLUNTEERISM AND COMMITMENT TO HELPING MOVE THAT FORWARD FOR US. 
          SO IT'S A REALLY AMAZING OPPORTUNITY THAT WILL NOT DRAIN THE FUND THAT ALLOWS US TO REALLY MAKE HARD WORK HAPPEN IN A LOW FUNDING TIME. 
          AND SO I THINK, I THINK THAT'S PRETTY EXCITING AND IT REALLY ALSO IS KIND OF AN OFFSHOOT OF WHAT WE'RE HEARING IN THE GENERAL PLAN. 
          IT'S GENERAL PLAN AND ACTION AS THESE FRAMEWORKS COME FORWARD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, UH, ARE WE ALL SOLID WITH THAT STAFF REPORT? ANY OTHER, UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, THANKS. 
          THEN WE'LL CLOSE, UM, STAFF COMMENT, THAT'S, UH, AGENDA ITEM FOUR. 
          AND UH, WITH THAT WE WILL, UM, CONSIDER THE MEETING ADJOURNED AT 8 39 45 SECONDS.
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