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[CLOSED SESSION - 6:00 P.M.]
GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PETALUMA CITY COUNCIL AND PETALUMA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT SUCCESSOR AGENCY FOR MONDAY, JUNE 3RD, 2024.MAY WE HAVE A ROLL CALL FOR THE EVENING? YES.
UM, WE HAVE CLOSED SESSION TONIGHT AND I'D LIKE TO, UH, INVITE OUR CITY ATTORNEY TO ANNOUNCE THE CLOSED SESSION FOR US.
THE, UM, COUNSEL BOTH CONFER WITH LEGAL COUNSEL REGARDING EXISTING LITIGATION UNDER GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 4 9 5 6 0.9 SUBDIVISION A.
THE CASE IS MELISSA LAWRENCE VERSUS CITY OF PETALUMA, WORKERS' COMPENSATION APPEALS BOARD CASE W-C-A-B-A-D-J 1 3 9 4 6 6 4 2.
UH, I'D LIKE TO OPEN UP A PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD ON JUST THIS, THE CLOSED SESSION ITEMS. UH, THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON THE CLOSED SESSION ITEM.
PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE PEOPLE AND I'D, I'D LIKE TO ASK THE CLERK IF WE'VE RECEIVED ANY EMAILS AHEAD OF TIME ON THIS.
WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM.
AND, UH, AS I SEE NO ONE IN THE ROOM AND WE HAVE NO CARDS SUBMITTED, THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS CLOSED FOR THIS MATTER.
AND NOW WE WILL ADJOURN TO DIS TO THE CLOSED SESSION AND WE WILL RETURN TO THE REGULAR SESSION OF TONIGHT'S MEETING AT SIX 30 OR AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE CLOSED SESSION, WHICHEVER COMES LATER.
[CALL TO ORDER]
GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PETALUMA CITY COUNCIL AND THE PETALUMA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT SUCCESSOR AGENCY FOR MONDAY, JUNE 3RD, 2024.IF YOU WISH TO PROVIDE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, PLEASE FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD, WHICH ARE LOCATED AT THE BACK OF THE CHAMBER AND BRING IT TO OUR CITY CLERK.
I WILL NOW INVITE MONICA RICIO AND MARIA GALVEZ TO PRO, PROVIDE INFORMATION TO THOSE WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN SPANISH.
MAY WE HAVE OUR ROLL CALL FOR THE EVENING, PLEASE.
AND SAY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.
ALL IN A MOMENT OF SILENCE, PLEASE.
[AGENDA CHANGES AND DELETIONS (TO CURRENT AGENDA ONLY)]
WE REVIEW FIRST, UH, AGENDA CHANGES, DELETIONS TO THE CURRENT AGENDA AS POSTED AND LOOKING UP AND DOWN THE DAIS.I, UH, DON'T SEE ANY, UH, HANDS WAVING, BUT I DO HAVE ONE I'D LIKE TO, UH, UM, MAKE, UH, FOR STAFF'S BENEFIT.
BASICALLY,
I BELIEVE, UH, UH, WE REALLY, UH, GAVE IT THE ONCE OVER AT OUR LAST MEETING, THE WORKSHOP.
UH, WE'VE HAD TIME TO SEE THE STAFF RESPONSE TO GET US TO A FINAL BUDGET.
AND DOES THAT, UH, MEET WITH AGREEMENT FROM THE COUNCIL?
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OKAY, WONDERFUL.THEN, UH, LET THE RECORD, UH, SHOW AND LET THE, UH, AGENDA SHOW THAT WE'LL BE MOVING THE, THE, UH, BUDGET ITEM NUMBER 17 TO FOLLOW THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
[REPORT OUT OF CLOSED SESSION]
WE HAD A CLOSED SESSION AND I'D LIKE TO INVITE OUR CITY ATTORNEY TO ANNOUNCE, UH, THE OUTCOME OF THAT CLOSED SESSION.THERE IS NO ACTION TO REPORT TONIGHT, BUT I'D ALSO LIKE TO NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLE JOINED US DURING THE CLOSED SESSION.
[PROCLAMATIONS]
ONE OF THE FUN THINGS THE CITY COUNCIL GETS TO DO.WE GET TO, UH, OFFER PROCLAMATIONS OF IN, IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND TONIGHT, UH, WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION FOR OUR FOR PRIDE MONTH AND L-G-B-T-Q COMMUNITY.
I'D LIKE TO INVITE ANNAN HDI TO THE, UH, PODIUM.
SHE IS THE FOUNDER AND BOARD PRESIDENT OF PETALUMA PRIDE.
AND, UH, I'D LIKE TO ASK THE VICE MAYOR TO READ THE COMMENDATION, THE PROCLAMATION SO THAT I MAY BE ABLE TO PRESENT IT TO HANNAN.
AND YOU'LL HAVE A COUPLE MINUTES AFTERWARDS IF YOU WANNA, UH, SAY SOMETHING THAT COMES TO THE PODIUM YOU LIKE.
THE CITY OF PETALUMA, UH, HAS A PROCLAMATION FOR PRIDE MONTH JUNE, 2024.
WHEREAS THE MAYOR AND THE HONORABLE MEMBERS OF THE PETALUMA CITY COUNCIL, THE GOVERNING BODY OF PETALUMA, CALIFORNIA, DO HEREBY UNITE IN SOLIDARITY AND COMMON PURPOSE TO RECOGNIZE, HONOR, AND CELEBRATE THE DIVERSITY, SHARED HUMANITY AND CIVIL RIGHTS OF OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY AND ALL ITS RESIDENTS.
AND WHEREAS EACH OF US WERE BORN INTO THE WORLD THE WAY WE ARE AND SHOULD BE ABLE TO LIVE WITHOUT FEAR OF PREJUDICE, DISCRIMINATION, VIOLENCE, OR HATRED BASED ON OUR RACE, ETHNICITY, RELIGION, GENDER IDENTITY, OR SEXUAL ORIENTATION.
AND WHEREAS THE PETALUMA COMMUNITY INCLUDES PEOPLE OF ALL AGES, RACES WHO ARE LESBIAN, GAY, BISEXUAL, TRANSGENDER, QUEER, LG LGBTQIA A PLUS.
AND EACH OF US SHOULD HAVE THE SAME UNALIENABLE, EQUAL RIGHTS, BENEFITS, AND RESPONSIBILITIES THAT ARE SHARED AND ENJOYED BY EACH OF US.
AND WHEREAS EMBRACING AND CELEBRATING OUR INDIVIDUAL IDENTITIES AND COMMONALITIES AS HUMANS HELPS TO FURTHER BRING EVERYONE TOGETHER AND BRINGS THE DEVELOPMENT OF OUR SOCIETY.
AND WHEREAS THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD HAS SHOWN THAT CONTINUED HUMAN PROGRESS IN THE SUCCESS OF SOCIETY AND CIVILIZATION HAS BEEN BUILT ON A FOUNDATION OF INCLUSIVENESS AND ACCEPTANCE.
AND WHEREAS EMBRACING OUR DIFFERENCES HELPS TO FULFILL THE PRINCIPLES AND CREATE WRITTEN INTO THE FOUNDING DOCUMENTS OF OUR GREAT NATION, AND THAT OUR INDIVIDUAL DESTINIES AND THAT OF OUR FAMILIES AND COMMUNITIES INCLUDE NOT ONLY THE ASPIRATION OF OUR FEDERAL CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC, BUT THE SUPPORT AND SUCCESS OF ALL OUR CITIZENS IN REALLY REALIZING THE FULFILLMENT OF ITS PROMISE.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT KEVIN MCDONALD, MAYOR OF PETALUMA, ALONG WITH THE MEMBERS OF THE ENTIRE PETALUMA CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF JUNE, 2024 AS PRIDE MONTH AND BRING THE ATTENTION OF ALL OUR RESIDENTS THAT WE MAY JOIN TOGETHER IN HONORING OUR DIVERSITY AND OUR COMMUNITY.
AND, UH, UH, PLEASE TAKE A COUPLE MINUTES TO, UH, SAY WHAT YOU LIKE.
UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE CITY OF PETALUMA FOR THIS PROCLAMATION AND ACKNOWLEDGING OUR RIGHTS, UH, FOR SAFETY AND FREEDOM TO BE WHO WE ARE, WHO WE WERE BORN.
IT IS CERTAINLY NOT A CHOICE, THOUGH SOME PEOPLE WOULD STILL VERY MUCH LIKE FOR SOCIETY TO BELIEVE THAT TO BE TRUE.
WE WERE BORN WITH OUR SKIN COLOR.
WE WERE BORN IN OUR FAMILY OF ORIGINS WITH VARIOUS CULTURES AND VARIOUS REGIONS, AND WE WERE MOST CERTAINLY BORN GAY, LESBIAN, BISEXUAL, PANSEXUAL, TRANSSEXUAL, AND ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT SPECTRUM.
WE CAN'T CHOOSE WHO WE ARE, BUT IT IS SO IMPORTANT THAT OUR YOUTH FEEL SAFE IN THIS COMMUNITY.
AND THAT IS WHY WE STARTED PETALUMA PRIDE.
I THINK I'M SPEAKING FOR PROBABLY EVERYONE STANDING HERE WHEN I SAY THAT IT, IF I KNEW IT WAS OKAY TO BE WHO I AM WHEN I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL, MY LIFE WOULD LOOK VERY DIFFERENT.
MY CHOICES WOULD'VE BEEN VERY DIFFERENT.
MY LOVE FOR MYSELF AND MY SELF-ACCEPTANCE WOULD'VE BEEN VASTLY DIFFERENT.
IT IS ALL OF OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO ENSURE THAT EVERY YOUNG PERSON IN THIS SOCIETY FEELS SAFE HERE.
THAT'S THE BARE MINIMUM THAT THEY FEEL CELEBRATED, THAT THEY FEEL REFLECTED, THAT THEY FEEL IMPORTANT.
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THANK YOU.APPRECIATE YOU ALL BEING HERE TONIGHT.
[GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT]
PUBLIC COMMENT.DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON ITEMS OF PUBLIC INTEREST THAT ARE WITHIN THE CITY COUNCIL'S SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION, AND THAT ARE NOT LISTED ON THE CURRENT AGENDA.
PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO UP TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON, AND DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF PERSONS WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL TIME WILL BE ALLOCATED IN EQUAL SHARES TOTALING NO MORE THAN 20 MINUTES.
UM, I'D LIKE TO ASK THE CITY CLERK IF WE RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS ON GENERAL COMMENT.
WE RECEIVED THREE AND THEY'RE ALL POSTED ONLINE.
AND, UH, UM, I'D LIKE YOU TO GO AHEAD WITH THE TIMER AND MESSAGING.
I'M GONNA START THE 32ND CLOCK MAYBE.
UH, AT THIS TIME WE'LL START A 32ND CLOCK FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING IN PERSON SHOULD BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARDS TO THE CLERK'S DESK IF THEY HAVE NOT ALREADY DONE SO.
SPEAKERS ARE REMINDED TO BE RESPECTFUL IN THEIR COMMENTS AND THAT THIS MEETING IS BEING TRANSLATED.
PLEASE PAUSE BETWEEN SENTENCES FOR TRANSLATION AND A COUNTDOWN WILL APPEAR FOR THE CONVENIENCE OF THE SPEAKERS AND THE VIEWERS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT, UH, INTRO.
I HAVE FOUR CARDS IN OUR COLLECTION TONIGHT TO SPEAK, AND THAT ALLOWS, UH, THREE MINUTES EACH FOR EACH PERSON.
AND I'D LIKE TO INVITE CATHERINE BOBOWSKI TO SPEAK FIRST, FOLLOWED BY JULIAN NORTON.
I LIVE AT THE LITTLEWOOD ILLA MO PARK AT 1821 LAKE BY HIGHWAY SPACE 31.
UH, MY AUNT, THE ON ONSITE MANAGER, A PART OF THE CELLAR CRUISE.
I ALLOWED A NEIGHBOR OF MINE TO PARK IN MY DRIVEWAY IN MY DRIVEWAY, NOT ON THE STREET, NOT ON THE FIRE LANE.
AND SHE'S GIVING ME A SEVEN DAY NOTICE.
BUT HER FAMILY AND THE SELLER CRUISE IS ILLEGALLY PARKING ON THE FIRE LANES, DOUBLE PARKING ON THE FIRE LANES, AIR, ALL MORNINGS, AFTERNOONS, EVENINGS, WEEKENDS, AND HOLIDAYS, AND PARKING WHERE IT SAYS NO PARKING, NOT BOUND, ABANDONED THE, THE STATE CALIFORNIA DISH, UH, UH, DOG LEASE LAWS.
AND YESTERDAY I HAD A FRIEND THAT DROVE ME HOME.
HE CAUGHT THE MANAGER OF HER FAMILY.
I ILLEGAL PARKED ON THE FIRE LANE, ON THE FIRE LANE ALL MORNING, AFTERNOON, EVENING.
AND, AND SHE'S ALSO ILLEGAL TRESPASSING TOO.
AND THEN SHE HAS ANOTHER FAMILY MEMBER THAT LIVES, UH, SPACE 11, WHO HAD PARKED TWO VEHICLES IN HIS DRIVEWAY.
HE DOESN'T HAVE ONE SINGLE VEHICLE PARKING IN HIS DRIVEWAY.
HE'S PARKED AGAINST MY PLACE, WHICH IS NOT ILLEGAL PARKING AREA.
THIS MANAGER, THE SELLER CRUZ AND NOR HARMONY, IS IN VIOLATION.
THANK YOU JULIA NORTON TO BE FOLLOWED BY, UM, SANDRA SHAN.
AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK THIS EVENING.
IT'S A LANE OF ABOUT EIGHT HOUSES ACROSS FROM KENWORTH JUNIOR HIGH, UM, AND THE RESIDENTS OF DOVER LANE AND THE NEIGHBORS NEARBY, UM, SIGNED A PETITION AND ASKED ME TO PRESENT IT TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
SO IT'S KINDA JUST A COUPLE PARAGRAPHS.
I'M GONNA READ IT AND THEN I CAN LEAVE IT WITH THE CLERK.
PETITION REQUEST FOR PAINTING OF THE NEW BUS SHELTER, KENWORTH JUNIOR HIGH.
DEAR PETALUMA CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE, THE RESIDENTS AND NEIGHBORS OF DOVER LANE WERE SURPRISED TO SEE TWO NEON BLUE COLORED BUS SHELTERS INSTALLED ACROSS THE STREET FROM OUR HOUSE HOUSES
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AT KENMORE JUNIOR HIGH.WE WERE NOT NOTIFIED IN ADVANCE TO ALLOW US TO SHARE ANY FEEDBACK OR INPUT.
THEREFORE, WE ARE NOW RESPECTIVELY REQUESTING A MODIFICATION TO HELP MITIGATE THE EFFECT ON OUR VIEWS AND QUALITY OF LIFE.
WE ENJOY LIVING IN A GREEN NEIGHBORHOOD WITH FARMS, VINEYARDS, AND AG SPACE ABUTTING THE SCHOOL.
WE VALUE THE TREES IN THE GREEN SPACE AT THE SCHOOL.
NEON BLUE COLORED BUS SHELTERS SEEM MORE APPROPRIATE FOR A TRANSIT CENTER OR COMMERCIAL AREA.
UM, THE BUS ROUTE AND THE STOP AT KENNELWORTH OPERATES SOLELY FOR THE STUDENTS.
IT'S ONLY AT TIMES WHEN SCHOOL IS IN.
SO, FOR INSTANCE, ALL SUMMER LONG, IT WOULDN'T BE USED.
UM, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS PART OF A PLANNED COMMUNITY, UM, HOMEOWNER COMMUNITY.
AND WE'RE UNDER GUIDELINES, FOR INSTANCE, THAT WE CAN'T PAINT OUR HOUSE A COLOR, LIKE A BRIGHT NEON BLUE COLOR.
UM, WE NOTE THAT JUST A FEW BLOCKS AWAY ON RIESLING ROAD.
UM, THE BUS SHELTERS ARE A MUTED GREEN COLOR, MORE NATURAL COLOR.
SO WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE A SIMILAR COLOR FOR THE BUS SHELTERS AT KENNELWORTH.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT FOR OUR REQUEST TO PAINT THE BUS SHELTERS.
UM, AND SINCE THE SIGNATURES, UM, COUPLE, THE NEIGHBORS NOTICED THAT AT CASA GRANDE, RIGHT ABOUT THE SAME TIME THEY DID INSTALL ALSO TWO BUS SHELTERS.
NEW ONES AT CASA GRANDE IN THE EAST SIDE, AND THOSE ARE GREEN.
SO WE'RE REALLY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE KIND OF, UM, EXCITED TO SEE THAT, HOPING THAT WE COULD JUST HAVE OURS A GREEN COLOR.
UM, AND I'VE GOT 12 SIGNATURES, SO I'LL LEAVE THIS WITH A CLERK.
BUT I GUESS IN CLOSING, JUST WANNA MENTION, WE KNOW THAT, UM, THE CITY COUNCIL IS VERY BUSY.
YOU'VE GOT CRI CRITICAL ISSUES, REAL CITY DECISIONS TO MAKE.
SO WE HOPE YOU FIND THIS AS A MINOR ISSUE WITH A EASY SOLUTION FOR US.
THANK YOU SANDRA SHAN TO BE FOLLOWED BY, UM, OLA FRY.
UM, I'M HERE TO REPRESENT THE APPLESEED MONTHLY MEETING, A LOCAL QUAKER GROUP AND AFFIRMED BY OUR CLERK DJ BLOOM.
THE MEMBERS OF APPLESEED MONTHLY MEETING OF THE RELIGIOUS SOCIETY OF FRIENDS GRIEVE DEEPLY THE VIOLENCE IN ISRAEL AND THE PALESTINIAN TERRITORY.
THE RISE OF ANTISEMITISM AND ISLAMOPHOBIA OF ANTI-JEWISH ANTI-ARAB RHETORIC, AS WELL AS OTHER FORMS OF XENOPHOBIA IN OUR COMMUNITY, OUR COUNTRY, AND AROUND THE WORLD IS IN DIRECT CONTRADICTION TO SOMETHING CENTRAL, NOT ONLY TO OUR QUAKER FAITH, BUT TO FAITH COMMUNITIES AROUND THE WORLD.
THAT THERE IS THAT OF GOD IN EVERYONE.
THE VIOLENCE IN GAZA AND THE WEST BANK HAS ALREADY CLAIMED THE LIVES OF TOO MANY ISRAELIS AND TOO MANY PALESTINIANS.
AND THE MAJORITY OF THE VICTIMS ARE MOTHERS AND CHILDREN.
MILLIONS OF LIVES ARE AT RISK.
IF VIOLENCE CONTINUES, WE ADD OUR COLLECTIVE VOICE TO OTHERS, BOTH FAITH COMMUNITIES AND SECULAR ORGANIZATIONS ACROSS THE WORLD WHO CALL FOR AN END TO THE VIOLENCE.
WE CALL ON ALL PARTIES TO BE IN ACCORD WITH INTERNATIONAL HUMANITARIAN LAW.
WE ASK FOR AN IMMEDIATE CEASEFIRE BY ALL PARTIES AND THROUGH DIPLOMACY, A PERMANENT JUST SOLUTION TO THE CONFLICT AND, AND TO ALL ACTS OF TERRORISM AND VIOLENCE.
UNCONDITIONAL RELEASE OF ALL HOSTAGES AND PRISONERS, UNRESTRICTED DELIVERY OF HUMANITARIAN ASSISTANCE AND RESTORATION OF FOOD, WATER, ELECTRICITY, AND MEDICAL SUPPLIES.
WE CALL ON OUR GOVERNMENT AND OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS TO DO EVERYTHING IN THEIR POWER TO HELP ACHIEVE THESE ENDS.
AND THIS WAS SENT TO ALL THE LOCAL, STATE AND NATIONAL GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS THAT WE CONSIDER WE ARE CONSTITUENTS OF.
SO I'VE GIVEN A FULL COPY TO THE CLERK FOR YOU TO RECEIVE IN WRITING, SINCE I HAD TO ABRIDGE A LITTLE BIT TO FIT IN.
I WANT MYSELF TO SAY TO COUNCIL MEMBER POKAY, WE IN THE PEACE COMMUNITY HAVE SO LITTLE TIME TO SPEAK HERE.
WE OFTEN FAIL TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR PRINCIPLES, STAND FOR PEACE AND HUMAN RIGHTS FOR ALL PEOPLE.
WE ARE VERY AWARE OF YOUR COURAGE, STEADFASTNESS, AND COMPASSION, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE BELIEVE THERE IS MUCH POLITICAL PRESSURE BEING APPLIED TO MEMBERS OF THIS COUNCIL.
NO ONE HERE IS A SUPPORTER OF HAMAS.
WE ARE PUZZLED HOW PEACE, COMPASSION, DIPLOMACY, AND THE DESIRE TO SEE ALL HOSTAGES, PRISONERS SAFELY RETURN TO THEIR FAMILIES BECAME IN SOME PEOPLE'S MINDS ANTISEMITIC.
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THAT WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENCE ON THIS COUNCIL AND YOUR PRINCIPLED STAND FOR PEACE.UH, NICOLA FRY WILL, UM, WILL BE OUR LAST SPEAKER OF THE EVENING.
WE'VE GOT ONE MORE SPEAKER AFTER NICOLA.
I'M THE CHAIR OF THE SENIOR ADVISORY COMMITTEE TONIGHT.
I HAVE A COUPLE THINGS I'D LIKE TO COMMENT ON, AND ONE IS PERSONAL.
UM, MY FACEBOOK PAGE IS HACKED AND I APPEARED ON A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT PLACES WHERE I DIDN'T DO IT.
IT WAS BECAUSE THERE WAS A DATA BREACH AT KAISER.
I THOUGHT I CHANGED ALL MY PASSWORDS, BUT OBVIOUSLY I FORGOT THE ONE ON PA FACEBOOK.
SO IF YOU SEE ME SAYING SOMETHING WEIRD OR I APPEAR ON SOMEBODY'S FACEBOOK PAGE THAT IT WOULD NOT NECESSARILY BE ME.
IT'S THE FIRST TIME IN MY ENTIRE LIFE I'VE EVER BEEN HACKED.
SO WHAT I CAME TO TALK ABOUT IS I HOPE THAT EACH OF YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE PETALUMA SENIOR STANDARDS JUNE NEWSLETTER EACH MONTH.
THERE ARE MANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR SENIORS TO PARTICIPATE IN A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT AND FUN ACTIVITIES AT THE SENIOR.
IF YOU HAVE THE TIME, WE WOULD LOVE IT IF YOU WOULD STOP IN FOR A TOUR OR A VISIT AND SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING AND MEET SOME OF THE MANY SENIORS WHO VISIT THERE EVERY DAY.
NUMBER TWO, IT'S MY HOPE THAT ANYONE WATCHING THIS MEETING AND HERE IN THE CHAMBER SERIOUSLY CONSIDERS APPLYING FOR ONE OF THE OPEN POSITIONS ON PETALUMA'S MANY COMMISSIONS, COMMITTEES AND BOARDS.
BEING A MEMBER OF ONE OF THE CCBS ALLOWS RESIDENTS TO TAKE PART IN DISCUSSIONS, MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT PROJECTS AND ISSUES THAT AFFECT OUR CITY.
EACH RESIDENT IS AFFORDED THIS OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY HAVE THEIR VOICES HEARD.
AS AN EXAMPLE, THE SENIOR ADVISORY COMMITTEE REPRESENTS ONE THIRD OF THE POPULATION OF PETALUMA.
WE PROVIDE ADVICE ABOUT ISSUES THAT AFFECT SENIORS AND WE WORK CLOSELY ON THE PROGRAMS AND ACTIVITIES THAT TAKE PLACE AT THE SENIOR CENTER.
IN ADDITION, WE ARE CURRENTLY PROPOSING AND WORKING WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, DE DESIGNING AN OUTDOOR EXERCISE FACILITY FOR LUCCHESE AND HOPEFULLY FOR OTHER PETALUMA PARKS.
SO DON'T, DON'T PASS UP THIS IMPORTANT OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY GET INVOLVED IN WHAT IS HAPPENING IN PETALUMA.
AND OUR LAST SPEAKER WILL BE MICHAEL SESI.
FIRST OF ALL, I APOLOGIZE FOR BEING LATE.
SO, UH, YOU'RE KIND OF TAKING ME OUTTA SEQUENCE HERE.
SO FRIDAY NIGHT I WENT DOWN TO THE BLOCKHOUSE AND MY, YOU GUYS SET THE RULES TO LISTEN TO MY FRIEND'S HIGH SCHOOL BAND.
THEY, THEY WERE PLAYING JUST PUT IN AN EVERYDAY EVENT.
AND, UH, THE END RESULT IS I RECEIVED A $600 PARKING TICKET.
SO YOU GUYS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS BECAUSE I WENT DOWN AND I DIDN'T SEE ANY SIGNAGE IN THE PARKING LOT IN FRONT OF THE BLOCK PETALUMA.
I THOUGHT MY TRUCK WAS STOLEN.
AND I SAT THERE IN THE PARKING LOT AT 10 O'CLOCK.
NOW I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DRINK AND I LOOKED AROUND FOR ANY SIGNS, SAY ANYTHING THAT'S, I WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE THERE.
SO THE END RESULT IS I TAKE A CAB DOWN, I TAKE A CAB HOME, COME BACK SATURDAY MORNING, PICK UP MY TRUCK, PAY THE $600 FINE.
SO MY REQUEST IS WHEN THE, WHEN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT RECEIVES A TOW, 'CAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE NOTIFIED BECAUSE THE END RESULT IS AFTER I CANCELED MY CREDIT CARDS, I CALLED THEM AND THEY SAID, OH YEAH, YOUR TRUCK WAS TOW.
ALRIGHT, WHERE'S IT AT? WHEN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT RECEIVES A TOW, THE NEEDS TO GO SOMEPLACE.
AND THE END RESULT IS WHILE THE POLICE ARE GOING AROUND JUST DOING THEIR NORMAL CHECKS.
AND THEN I ASK ANYTHING SPECIAL IS THEY LOOK AT THE SIGNAGE OF WHERE IT WAS AND THEY'RE JUST CHECKING A BOX.
IS THERE ENOUGH SIGNS TO SAY $600? I ASKED THE GUY, HOW MANY TOES DID YOU DO TODAY? HE GOES, WE DID 10, THAT'S $6,000.
THAT'S JUST FOR ONE NIGHT IN PETALUMA.
AND YOU GUYS GET A CUT OF ALL OF IT.
BELIEVE ME, I WAS THINKING CONSPIRACY THEORY.
SO I'M JUST ASKING YOU GUYS, 600 BUCKS IS A LOT OF MONEY.
I DON'T KNOW WHO SETS THE RATE, BUT YOU DO IN CHARGE OF THE SIGNAGE.
SO WHEN THE POLICE GET A REPORT, THEY GO DOWN, THEY JUST DRIVE AROUND AND SAY, OH, THIS SHOULD BE MORE SIGNS HERE.
IF ANYTHING SAY YOU GONNA GET TOWED AT 600 BUCKS MINIMUM.
I HAVE SOME PICTURES HERE IF YOU GUYS WANT 'EM.
I, UM, MR. MAYOR, IF I COULD ASK THE GENTLEMAN A QUESTION.
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GONNA GO TO COUNCIL MEMBER HEALEY FIRST IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE YEAH.UH, CAN YOU TELL US, SIR, IF YOU WERE PARKED IN THE PUBLIC STREET OR IN THE PRIVATE PARKING LOT IN FRONT OF THE OH, THE PRIVATE PARKING LOT END UP BEING AUTOZONE.
AND, AND, AND I BELIEVE THAT THE CITY DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT.
I'LL ASK STAFF TO CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT LEMME JUST SAY, AND, AND, AND WE, WE HAVE SOME PROPERTY OWNERS WHO ARE VERY AGGRESSIVE ABOUT CONTRACTING WITH PRIVATE TOWING COMPANIES AND, AND ENGAGE IN THIS KIND OF PREDATORY BEHAVIOR.
BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THE CITY HAS ANY INVOLVEMENT IN THAT.
AND I WOULD ASK THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER TO WORK ON THAT.
UH, YOU GUYS ARE IN CHARGE OF SCIENCE.
YEAH, I CAN, I CAN CONFIRM THAT THE, THE CITY WOULD NOT BE TOWING FROM PRIVATE PROPERTY UNLESS THERE'S SOME EXTREMELY EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCE.
THERE ARE, THERE ARE, AS THE COUNCIL MEMBER NOTED.
UH, AND WITH THAT, I'M GONNA SAY WE GET BACK TO OUR PUBLIC COMMENT EXPERIENCE, WHICH IS IN PUBLIC COMMENT.
YOU ARE ENTITLED TO MAKE THE PUBLIC COMMENT THERE.
UM, THE COUNCIL TAKES THINGS UNDER ADVISEMENT, RIGHT? BUT IT IS NOT A DIALOGUE.
MY ADVICE IS SUBMIT THIS AS AN EMAIL EITHER TO CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE OR TO COUNCIL MYSELF.
UH, AND THAT BECOMES MORE OF A, UH, OPPORTUNITY TO DIALOGUE ABOUT THIS RATHER THAN THIS MOMENT PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.
[COUNCIL COMMENT]
NOW MOVE TO OUR, UM, COUNCIL COMMENT MOMENT.AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, UH, ASK THE PUBLIC TO HOLD THOSE THREE MINUTES ON COMMENTS.
AND, UH, WE ASK COUNSEL TO HOLD TWO, THREE MINUTES ON COMMENT.
AND SOMETIMES WE GET PERHAPS A LITTLE LAX ABOUT THAT OURSELVES.
AND, UH, WE DO HAVE A CLOCK THAT WE CAN SEE ON OUR, ON OUR SIDE OF THESE COMPUTERS.
AND THE, UH, COUNCIL COMMENTS IS A CHANCE TO BRING UP ACTIVITIES OF OUR LIAISON ASSIGNMENTS AS A COUNCIL PERSON OR OTHER IMPORTANT COUNCIL TOPICS.
BUT THEY NEED TO BE BRIEF AND CONCISE.
AND SO, UM, WE'RE GONNA SET THE CLOCK TONIGHT, THREE MINUTES.
AND, UH, AND I'D LIKE TO START TONIGHT, UH, UM, WITH OUR, OUR VICE MAYOR, JOHN REPPS.
UM, WASN'T IT A LOT OF, UH, DECISION MAKING GOING ON, BUT THERE'S LOTS OF ACTIVITIES OF COOL.
UH, PETALUMA HAD THEIR EXPO AND WELL JUST, I THINK JUST ABOUT ALL OF US PARTICIPATED IN THAT.
UM, UH, SHOWING OFF WHAT WE CAN DO DOWN IN THE FUTURE FOR, UM, CLIMATE CHANGE.
UH, THERE WAS A SKATE PARK MEETING THAT WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL PRESENTED OF THE NEW, UH, PLANS AND, UH, UH, SO THE CITIZENS WERE THERE.
THERE WAS A CLIMATE ROUND TABLE, UH, UH, AGAIN, SPONSORED BY, UM, UH, COOL PETALUMA.
AND WE HAD LIKE 30 PEOPLE SHOW UP ON THAT, UH, FROM ALL OVER TOWN, UH, TO DISCUSS WHAT COULD BE DONE ABOUT, UH, CLIMATE CHANGE.
UM, THERE'S, UH, WAS ALSO AN OPEN SPACE ROUND TABLE.
I PARTICIPATED IN HELPING OUT THE, THE GPAC, UM, PROCESS OF, OF COMING UP WITH OUR FRAMEWORKS.
AND, UH, THE, UH, THE LAST ONE I ATTENDED WAS A, A PETAL WETLANDS ALLIANCE PICNIC, WHICH IS THEIR ANNUAL, UM, EVENT THAT THEY DO.
AND THEY SORT OF LIKE TALKED ABOUT WHAT THEY'VE DONE THIS LAST YEAR.
AND, UH, PETAL WETLANDS ALLIANCE, UM, HAS BROUGHT BACK THE EDUCATION PROGRAM, DID 17 SCHOOLS.
UH, THEY'RE STILL DOING ALL THE BIRD RESEARCH AND SURVEYS AND, AND TAKING CARE OF ALL THE, UM, BIRD BOXES IN, UH, UH, THE PENAL WETLANDS, PUBLIC WETLANDS, ELLIS CREEK AND, UH, ALMOND MARSH, UM, AS WELL AS SCHOENBERGER PARK.
AND, UH, WE ALSO DO A, A LOT OF MAINTENANCE OVER THERE AT SCHOENBERGER PARK AND ALMOND MARSH.
SO THAT WAS ALL WAS, WAS REPORTED AT, AT THE PWA PICNIC YEST, UH, WHICH WAS JUST YESTERDAY.
SO, UM, AND WITH THAT ALSO JUST COMING BACK ON THE PREDATORY TOWING, I HAVE BEEN CONTACTED BY, BY SEVERAL FOLKS.
I HAVE TALKED TO A COUPLE OF, UM, FOLKS HERE IN THE STAFF AND ALSO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND I, I'VE MADE MY OWN COMPLAINTS ABOUT THAT.
AND I WILL BE FOLLOWING UP, UM, UH, MORE ON THAT.
I'LL BE, THAT'S GONNA, I'M GONNA BE HAMMERING ON THAT THIS YEAR MYSELF.
UM, IT, IT'S NOT RIGHT WHAT THEY'RE DOING, AND WE NEED TO FIND A RESOLUTION ABOUT IT ALL.
SO WE WILL BE WORKING ON THAT.
COUNCIL MEMBER CATER THOMPSON.
I DON'T REALLY HAVE A LOT TO SAY EXCEPT, UM, WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WE ARE GOING OVER ALL THE FRAMEWORKS.
LAST WEEK WE WENT OVER, I BELIEVE, UTILITIES, TRANSPORTATION, AND LAND USE.
AND THEN THERE WAS A MEETING THAT I ATTENDED ON THE NATURAL RESOURCES, AND IT WAS, UM, IT WASN'T A FORMAL MEETING, BUT IT WAS A, A MEETING THAT COMMUNITY MEMBERS WERE INVITED TO.
AND IT WAS NOT PRODUCTIVE BECAUSE IT WAS MORE OF A, OF A SESSION OF SLAMMING THE CITY DURING, YOU KNOW, A WHOLE TWO HOURS, WHICH DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE AT ALL.
WE'RE TRYING TO ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND NATURAL RESOURCES.
WHAT DO YOU WANT, WHAT'S YOUR INPUT? AND IT JUST WENT INTO EVEN THE M GROUP.
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AND I JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE M GROUP.THE M GROUP, UM, IS CONTRACTED WITH THE CITY OF PETALUMA.
I WAS AT A FUNERAL THIS LAST SATURDAY, AND THE WOMAN SITTING IN BACK OF ME, UM, HAPPENED TO WORK IN PETALUMA IN THE 1990S, AND SHE WAS A CONTRACT PLANNER.
SO CONTRACT PLANNING IS NOT NEW TO PETALUMA.
AND THE WHOLE SLAMMING OF THE M GROUP IS ALMOST LIKE PETULANT CHILDREN NOT GETTING THEIR OWN WAY AND WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DAMAGE SOMEBODY.
AND THIS IS GETTING TO THE POINT OF ACTUALLY DAMAGING PEOPLE, UM, PERSONALLY.
AND I REALLY HOPE THAT, UM, PEOPLE THAT CONTINUE TO DO THAT REALLY REFLECT INSIDE.
AND INSTEAD OF JUST CONSTANT SLAM, WE WANT TO BE PART OF THE PROCESS BECAUSE WE HAD A WHOLE TWO HOUR MEETING THAT WAS USELESS.
AND I, UM, SAT THROUGH THE WHOLE MEETING JUST BECAUSE I WANTED TO SEE WHAT WAS HAPPENING.
AND THIS IS HOW GOVERNMENT, THE DOWNFALL OF GOVERNMENT IS WHEN PEOPLE DON'T TRUST WHAT'S GOING ON.
AND SO I THINK THAT'S, UM, ALL I REALLY WANNA SAY.
UM, I'M GONNA NOT MAKE ANY COMMENTS.
UH, SO YOU'RE SEATING YOUR THREE MINUTES TO ME.
UM, I THINK I'M DOWN THE OTHER END OF COUNCIL MEMBER.
I THOUGHT WE, I CAN'T SEE MY TIMER.
SHOULD I BE ABLE TO SEE IT? IT'S GOING.
I CAN HAVE OUR AV, THEY CAN, THE NO PROBLEM.
I'M NOT GONNA TAKE THREE MINUTES.
UM, UM, THE, UH, HOMELESS COALITION OF WHICH I'M OUR MEMBER, UM, IS, UH, WORKING TO, UH, RANK PROGRAMS IN, IN TERMS OF, UH, GETTING RENEWALS OF HUD.
THAT'S HOW FEDERAL HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT MONEY.
AND, UH, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, UH, UM, WE'RE GOING TO GET THE PRELIMINARY RESULTS OF THE PIT COUNT, WHICH IS A POINT IN TIME COUNT OF HOMELESSNESS IN THE, IN THE COUNTY, IN OUR CITY.
UH, NOT, NOT AT NOT ALL THE DATA, BUT AT LEAST THE PRELIMINARY NUMBERS, UH, WITHIN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, IF ANYONE'S, UH, WAITING ON THAT.
UM, LET ME ALSO, UH, I HAD A GOOD TIME, UH, MARCHING INTO PRIDE PARADE UP IN SANTA ROSA ON SATURDAY.
AND, UM, UH, I HAVE, UH, UH, TO MENTION THAT, UH, UH, I'M IN COMPLETE AGREEMENT WITH THE, UH, WITH THE QUAKER RESOLUTION THAT WAS READ AND THAT, UM, I, UH, UM, WELL, LET'S JUST, JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT.
UH, COUNCIL MEMBER NOW, AND THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.
UM, I ATTENDED THE COOL PETALUMA EVENT AT THE FAIRGROUNDS AS WELL, AND MY MOM WAS THERE, UM, WITH HER OBSERVATION BEEHIVE AND WITH THE FOUR H KIDS, EDUCATING PEOPLE ON THE IMPORTANCE OF BEES AND POLLINATORS.
PETALUMA LEAGUE LITTLE LEAGUE IS WINDING DOWN THEIR SEASON WITH THE PLAYOFFS.
SO I'M SPENDING A LOT OF TIME AT LOU CASEY BALLFIELD.
UM, GOOD LUCK TO ALL THE PLAYERS, BUT THERE'S LOTS OF, UM, NEED IN THAT PARK AND IN THE PARKING LOT, UM, AS IT GETS A LOT OF VISITS DURING BASEBALL SEASON AND SOCCER SEASON.
OUR VERY OWN PEL OF VISITORS PROGRAM WON TOP HONORS FOR ITS VISITORS PROGRAM AT DOWNTOWN ASSOCIATION BY THE SONOMA COUNTY TOURISM BUR BUREAU.
THE FRIEND HOUSE AWARD WENT TO OUR VERY OWN LIAM RICHARDSON FROM TORCH'S RESTAURANT.
CONGRATULATIONS TO LIAM FOR NOT ONLY WINNING, BUT FOR OVERCOMING HIS SPECIAL NEEDS OF DOWN SYNDROME AND TO TORCH HIS RESTAURANT FOR HIS EMPLOYMENT COMING UP IN JULY.
DOWNTOWN IS PETALUMA'S ART AND GARDEN FESTIVAL ON JULY 14TH.
SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO GIVE BACK TO YOUR COMMUNITY, UM, FIND OUT HOW YOU CAN VOLUNTEER THAT DAY.
THEY NEED EVERYTHING FROM, UM, DAILY CLEANUP TO EVENT TICKET SALES.
UM, I WAS PLEASED TO SEE SO MANY PEOPLE AT SATURDAY'S RUBEN, CUTTING AT LEGHORN BASEBALL FIELD OVER TWO DECADES TO BUILD AND CONSTRUCT THIS WONDERFUL ASSET TO OUR COMMUNITY.
BUT WE'RE STILL NEED TO COMPLETE IT WITH, UM, REVENUE FOR GRANDSTANDS AND RESTROOMS. WE SAID A SAID GOODBYE TO OUR OWN PEMA PETE YESTERDAY, AND OUR COMMUNITY WILL MISS HIM IMMENSELY, ESPECIALLY THE DOWNTOWN MUSIC ON OUR EVENING.
UM, DON'T MISS THE PETALUMA AIRPORTS DISPLAY DAY ON SATURDAY, JUNE 15TH, FROM 10 TO THREE, THE PETALUMA AREA PILOTS ASSOCIATION AND OUR OWN AIRPORT COMMITTEE, WHICH I AM THE LIAISON, WILL HAVE A PANCAKE BREAKFAST
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ALONG WITH NUMEROUS EDUCATIONAL AND FUN AIRCRAFT ACTIVITIES PLANNED FOR THE WHOLE FAMILY.PLUS AUTOMOBILES LIKE COR CORVETTES TO SEE YOU CAN EAT LUNCH UNDER THE WING OF ONE OF THE FED EX PLANES.
TALK TO THE PILOTS, LEARN HOW FIRST RESPONDERS PROTECT US.
THANK YOU TO THE OMA POLICE, FIRE AND HOSPITAL STAFF FOR PARTICIPATING IN THIS DAY, TOO.
DO YOU KNOW SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO FLY FOR THE FIRST TIME? THE EAGLES FLIGHTS THAT DAY FOR 18 YEARS AND OVER WILL BE AVAILABLE.
CIVIL AIR PATROL IS A WONDERFUL GROUP OF KIDS, 12 YEARS AND, UM, OLDER WHO LOVE AVIATION.
AND CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL OUR LOCAL HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES, MANY WHOM WERE IN MY CLASS AS PRESCHOOLERS, SO I'M FEELING RATHER OLD.
THANK YOU, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER HEALY.
SO, UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY LIAISON REPORTS, BUT I'LL JUST MENTION TWO THINGS.
UM, FIRST, UM, LET'S SEE, AS NICO FRY, UH, MY FACEBOOK PA PAGE HAS APPARENTLY BEEN HACKED AS WELL.
SO IF YOU'VE SEEN ANYTHING THAT'S WEIRDER THAN USUAL COMING FROM ME,
SO IT'S HOW THE HACKERS KNOW IT.
UM, SECONDLY, MORE SUBSTANTIVELY, UM, I'M NOT BRINGING THIS UP UNDER THE TENTATIVE AGENDA ITEM BECAUSE I DON'T WANNA SEE IT PUT ON THE NEXT AGENDA, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AT ONE OF OUR MEETINGS IN JULY, UM, THE COUNCIL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SUPPORT A RESOLUTION OPPOSING, COUNTYWIDE MEASURE J, WHICH IS THE FACTORY FARMING INITIATIVE, WHICH WOULD HAVE A DEVASTATING EFFECT ON OUR TOWN AND OUR SURROUNDING COUNTRYSIDE.
SO, UM, I'M, I'D BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH STAFF ON THAT IF YOU'D LIKE.
UM, BUT LET'S DO THAT IN JULY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO, UH, GREAT TOPIC TO BRING UP.
PRETTY MUCH APPRECIATED, VERY IMPACTFUL ON OUR COUNTY.
UM, FOR MYSELF, UH, I DID SO MANY OF THE MEETINGS WE GO TO, SO MANY OF THE COUNCILS ARE ALL AT.
AND, UM, IT'S KIND OF INTERESTING THAT WAY.
UH, AT THE COOL PETALUMA EXPO AT THE FAIRGROUNDS IS A GREAT NEW USE OF THE FAIRGROUNDS.
REALLY GLAD THE STAFF STEPPED UP TO HELP, UH, GET NEW USES ONTO THAT PROPERTY.
JOHN'S, THERE WAS A DISCUSSION GROUP ON TRANSPORTATION HOSTED BY, BY COOL PETALUMA, AND YOU FIND THAT THOSE IN, UH, MEETINGS WHEN COUNCIL'S ALL IN THE ROOM AT THE SAME TIME, WE'VE VERY GUARDED ABOUT WHAT WE CAN ACTUALLY SAY AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE MEETING LIKE THAT.
SO, UM, IF YOU DON'T SEE US JUMPING UP, WHICH WE ALWAYS DO HERE, UH, IT'S BECAUSE WE'RE, WE HAVE TO BE A LITTLE GUARDED AT THOSE MEETINGS.
UM, AND, UH, MEASURE O UH, WHICH I SAID ON THE, THE, UH, OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, I BELIEVE THERE'S A STAFF HAS, UH, JUST RECEIVED CONFIRMATION THAT WE'LL HAVE, UH, SAFE TEAM FUNDING FROM THEM INTO THE NEW YEAR, WHICH IS A, A REAL WIN FOR THE CITY AND THE CITY'S BUDGET.
LATER ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, ATTEND PETALUMA'S PETALUMA HIGH SCHOOL'S PEACE POLL INSTALLATION.
I'M VERY GRATEFUL THE VIETNAM VETS THAT WERE THERE, IT'S THE THIRD OR FOURTH THAT, UH, THAT THEY'VE DONE IN PETALUMA, BUT THEY INTEND TO GET TO EVERY SCHOOL.
AND SO IT'S, IT'S A REALLY A GREAT PROGRAM.
UH, THE RIBBON CUTTING AT THE BASEBALL FIELDS, UH, OUT THERE AT PETMAN COMMUNITY SPORTS FIELDS WAS WELL ATTENDED.
WE WERE ABLE TO HONOR SOME OF THOSE WHO WERE IN THERE AT THE BEGINNING,
AND THEN, UM, IT, IT GOT ALL THE WAY TO HAVING A NEW DIAMOND, A FULL-SIZED DIAMOND, A THING THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY, UM, FOR OUR YOUTH.
I ATTENDED THE, UH, CAULFIELD BRIDGE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING.
AND, UH, UM, IT, IT'S VERY INTERESTING TO, UH, SEE WHAT THE MOST DIRECTLY IMPACTED PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT, UH, A, A MEETING STAFF, I THINK PERFORM WONDERFULLY, HAVE TAKEN THAT INPUT FROM PEOPLE AND BEING ABLE TO TURN IT TO A BETTER PROJECT FOR US.
I ALSO ATTENDED A MORE PO TODOS, UH, CELEBRATION AND FUNDRAISER, AND I BRING THAT UP IN LIGHT OF PRIDE MONTH.
AND, UM, I JUST HAVE TO SAY THAT, UH, UM, WITH THEIR MISSION BEING, UH, TO JOIN SCHOOLS AND COMMUNITIES, AN INNOVATIVE INTERSECTIONAL APPROACH TO CULTIVATING MORE GENDER AND LGBT AFFIRMING ENVIRONMENTS FOR OUR YOUTH, THAT, UH, HITS RIGHT HEART ON THE MISSION THAT WE SAW FROM OUR PRIDE REPRESENTATIVES TONIGHT.
AND I JUST WANNA ALSO NOTE THAT OUR PETALUMA FIRE DEPARTMENT GOT NATIONAL RECOGNITION FOR THEIR CARES PROGRAM.
AND, UM, AND IT'S ALWAYS FUN TO SEE OUR LOCAL PEOPLE GET NEWS IN THE NATIONAL PRESS.
[CITY MANAGER COMMENT]
I'LL MOVE TO OUR NEXT ITEM, WHICH WOULD BE OUR CITY MANAGERS, UH, REPORT IN, UH, STANDING IN FOR OUR CITY MANAGERS, OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, UH, BRIAN COCHRAN, PLEASE TAKE IT AWAY.THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND GOOD EVENING.
I JUST WANTED TO FIRST REITERATE THE CALL FOR OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO ARE INTERESTED TO PLEASE APPLY TO BE ON OUR COMMITTEE'S, COMMISSIONS AND BOARDS.
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THOSE APPLICATIONS CLOSE JUNE 6TH.WE WELCOME, UH, ANYBODY WITH A DIVERSE RANGE OF EXPERIENCE TO SIT ON ONE OF THOSE COMMITTEES.
AND YOU CAN DOWNLOAD THE APPLICATION@CITYOFPETALUMA.ORG SLASH CCBS.
AND THEN SECONDLY, UM, WANTED TO FLAG FOR THE COUNCIL AND COMMUNITY THAT VERY SHORTLY, UH, AS SHORTLY AS THIS WEEK PERHAPS, WE WILL BE RELEASING THE FIRST EPISODE OF OUR ONE PETALUMA PODCAST.
SO WOULD LOVE TO FOLKS TO GO CHECK THAT OUT.
UH, THE FIRST EPISODE WILL BE ON OUR COMMUNICATIONS PROGRAM AND HOW PEOPLE CAN COMMUNICATE WITH, UH, WITH OUR CITY AND HOW WE ARE TRYING TO COMMUNICATE WITH 'EM.
BUT WE PLAN TO HAVE ABOUT ONE EPISODE PER MONTH WITH A VARIETY OF TOPICS LIKE, UH, HOMELESSNESS, SAFE STREETS, OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PROGRAM, ET CETERA.
SO HOPEFULLY YOU'LL SEE THAT EITHER IN THIS WEEK'S WEEKLY UPDATE WITH A LINK, UH, OR THE FOLLOWING ONE.
SO EXCITED TO ROLL THAT PROGRAM OUT.
[CONSENT CALENDAR]
AGENDA IS OUR CONSENT CALENDAR, AND IT HAS, UH, 14 ITEMS TONIGHT.AND I'M LOOKING UP AND DOWN THE DAAS FOR ANYONE WHO HAS, UH, WANTS TO LIFT AN ITEM FOR SEPARATE VOTE NO AND, OR WHO HAS A QUESTION OR COMMENT FOR STAFF BEFORE WE MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
AND I HAVE, UH, JUST THE ONE IDEA WE, WE HAVE IN HERE, OUR LANDSCAPE ASSESSMENT DISTRICTS, AND, UH, THAT, UH, I'D JUST LIKE TO ASK STAFF THERE.
THAT'S, UH, THAT'S JUST MORE OF A KICKOFF, RIGHT? BECAUSE IT'S NOT, UH, IT'S NOT THE LAST WORD IN WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH, UM, THE LANDSCAPE ASSESSMENT DISTRICT IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT, MAYOR, THIS IS THE FIRST AGENDA ITEM, WHICH WILL, UM, KICK OFF THE ENGINEERS, THE PREPARATION OF THE ENGINEERS REPORTS, AND WE'LL BE BACK IN, UH, EARLY AUGUST WITH THE FINAL ITEM TO APPROVE THOSE ASSESSMENTS FOR THE UPCOMING TAX RULES, WHICH, UM, FROM PUBLIC FEEDBACK SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED TO, UH, UP THE, THE LEVEL OF, UH, LANDSCAPING ON THE, OR MAINTENANCE ON SOME OF THE AREAS.
SO I'M EXCITED TO HAVE THIS ITEM ON THIS GROUPING TONIGHT.
AND, UM, I'D LIKE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD ON THIS, UM, ITEM.
AND MAY I ASK THE CLERK, HAVE WE HAD EMAILS? WE DID RECEIVE TWO COMMENTS ON ITEM NUMBER 10.
UM, AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING IN PERSON SHOULD BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARDS TO THE CLERK'S DESK IF THEY HAVE NOT ALREADY DONE SO.
SPEAKERS ARE REMINDED TO BE RESPECTFUL IN THEIR COMMENTS, AND THAT THIS MEETING IS BEING TRANSLATED.
PLEASE PAUSE BETWEEN SENTENCES FOR TRANSLATION AND THE TIMER BEHIND THE DICE WILL BE RESET FOR EACH SPEAKER.
LOOKS LIKE WE WILL HAVE A SPEAKER TONIGHT, AND I'D LIKE TO INVITE BRIAN MOYNIHAN TO, UH, COME TO THE DIOCESE.
AND, UM, THE, THE CLOCK SHALL BE SET AT THREE MINUTES.
I WAS HOPE ENCOURAGING YOU AS A COUNSEL PULL FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS FOUR 11 AND 12 AND GIVE 'EM A LITTLE MORE CONSIDERATION BEFORE YOU VOTE ON 'EM.
ITEM FOUR DEALS WITH, UH, REVENUE BONDS.
IT'S A REPORT, UH, INDICATES THAT $19,125,000, UH, FOR STREET IMPROVEMENTS, THOSE BONDS WERE PUT OUT OVER A 30 YEAR TERM.
AND I'M QUESTIONING WHY SO LOW OF AN AMOUNT.
AS I UNDERSTAND IT, YOUR MEASURE U FUNDS ARE BRINGING IN ABOUT 16 MILLION A YEAR IN SALES TAX REVENUES.
UH, YOU COULD BOND 10 TIMES THAT AMOUNT WITHOUT A PROBLEM AND PUT 'EM BACK IN THE STREETS TODAY.
IT KIND OF INDICATES THAT THOSE FUNDS ARE NOT BEING LEVERAGED PROPERLY AND THE STREET IMPROVEMENTS ARE BEING NEGLECTED.
UH, ITEM 11 DEALS WITH BUYING OFFICE FURNITURE PANELS FOR 1318 REDWOOD WAY, AND I'M DISTURBED, YOU GUYS ARE LEASING ADDITIONAL OFFICES UP IN REDWOOD BUSINESS PARK.
THAT'S A NICE BUILDING, BUT IT'S ALREADY GOT PLENTY OF OFFICE PARTITIONS IN IT.
AND I'M SURE THEY GIVE 'EM TO YOU IF YOU ASK.
UH, THEY'RE LIKE, YOU KNOW, PENNIES ON THE DOLLAR TO BUY USED AND, UH, SOME PEOPLE PAY TO GET RID OF THEM, ACTUALLY.
SO I, I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU'D BE SPENDING CITY FUNDS ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND I, I QUESTION, YOU KNOW, CCIP ADMINISTRATION IS MAINLY D ADMINISTRATION AND YOU CONTRACT OUT FOR A LOT OF THINGS.
TRADITIONALLY, STAFF HAS ALWAYS BEEN ABLE TO WORK FROM THEIR DESKS TO DO THOSE TYPE OF PROJECTS.
YOU KNOW, LEASING VACANT OFFICE SPACE.
IN THIS CURRENT MARKET, IT'S JUST UNNECESSARY.
A LOT OF US ARE NOW WORKING REMOTELY MORE, MORE SO THAN EVER.
UH, IT'S INCREASING THE, UH, CITY'S MINIMUM WAGE.
AND I'D JUST LIKE YOU TO HAVE A DISCUSSION AT THE DAIS AND DISCUSS
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ABOUT THE IMPACT THAT'LL HAVE ON LOCAL BUSINESSES.UM, IT JUST SEEMS TO BE HEAVY TO ME.
UH, I HAD A COUPLE OF OTHER THOUGHTS.
THERE WAS A AD IN THE, THE ARGUS THAT WAS DEALING WITH HIRING A NEW POSITION.
IT'S APPARENTLY ATTORNEY IS PREFERRED TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH LOCAL AND STATE LAWS BY APPLYING A MONETARY PENALTY FOR ONGOING VIOLATIONS.
AND SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOMEONE COMING IN, AS I UNDERSTAND, HIRED IN, IN ADDITION TO THE STAFF YOU HAVE ALREADY TO GO AFTER INDIVIDUALS FOR VIOLATIONS.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE SIDEWALK ORDINANCE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, OR PARKING INFRACTIONS OR WHAT, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THAT'S NOT GOING TO GENDER A LOT OF GOOD FEELINGS AMONG THE COMMUNITY, AND YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER HOLDING OFF ON DOING THAT.
SO THANK YOU AND I APPRECIATE THE CLERK, UH, INCLUDING MY LETTER TO YOU REGARDING THE BUDGET MATTERS AND CONSIDERING A POSITION CONTROL REPORT BEFORE ADOPTING YOUR BUDGET.
WE HAVE ONE MORE SPEAKER ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
THAT IS, UH, JACOB GAR, UM, GARNER.
ANYWAY, SORRY I WASN'T REALLY PREPARED TO SPEAK, BUT I JUST WANTED TO, UM, HE MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT THE MINIMUM WAGE AND JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER AS WELL IS, UM, I'VE BEEN IN THE RESTAURANT INDUSTRY FOR A LONG TIME, AND AS THE MINIMUM WAGE GOES UP, I UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO PROVIDE A LIVING WAGE.
AND EVEN THE PROPOSED LIVING WAGE ISN'T EVEN ENOUGH TO LIVE IN PETALUMA.
COMING FROM A DIFFERENT STANDPOINT, THOUGH, AS TIPPED EMPLOYEES, UH, BEING A SERVER MYSELF FOR YEARS AND THEN ALSO A BUSINESS OWNER.
NOW, I STILL HAVE THE SAME STANCE ON IT, EVEN WHEN I WAS SERVING TABLES AS WELL, IS THAT I DON'T THINK THAT IF YOU'RE MAKING TIPS LIKE THAT, YOU SHOULD BE MAKING THAT MUCH MONEY, MINIMUM WAGE.
I UNDERSTAND SOMEONE THAT DOESN'T MAKE TIPS, SOMEONE THAT WORKS AT A GAS STATION OR SOMEWHERE ELSE.
I DON'T FEEL THAT, UH, TIPPED EMPLOYEES SHOULD MAKE 2124 AN HOUR.
AND, UM, AS A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER, I CAN'T HELP CONTRIBUTE TO, UM, TO MEDICAL AS MUCH AS I WOULD LIKE TO.
I WISH I COULD PAY EVERYBODY $30 AN HOUR, $40 AN HOUR, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S JUST NOT, NOT POSSIBLE.
UM, YOU KNOW, CALIFORNIA JUST UPPED THE SICK PAY FROM THREE TO FIVE DAYS, AND THAT'S ALL OUT OF POCKET.
UM, SO I JUST REALLY ASKING FOR Y'ALL TO CONSIDER BEFORE UPPING THE WAGES THAT MUCH.
MAYBE THERE CAN BE LIKE, UM, DIFFERENT WAGES FOR TIPPED EMPLOYEES AND NON TIPPED EMPLOYEES OR SOMETHING ALONG THE WAY, SINCE THERE'S GONNA BE TWO DIFFERENT AMOUNTS, WHETHER YOU CONTRIBUTE OR NOT.
MAYBE THERE CAN BE, UM, MAYBE SINCE WE'RE NOT CONTRIBUTING TOWARDS BENEFITS, MAYBE SINCE WE'RE KIND OF CONTRIBUTING TOWARDS THEM MAKING TIPS, I DON'T KNOW.
BUT ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED YOU ALL TO CONSIDER THAT, UH, BEFORE YOU VOTE ON UPPING THE MINIMUM WAGE FOR PET AMOUNT.
AND WE REALLY, UH, APPRECIATE YOUR BEING HERE AND, AND SPEAKING IN PUBLIC COMMENT.
I THINK SOME OF THE COMMENTS TONIGHT, UH, ARE A LITTLE COMPLEX TO ANSWER AND SOME ARE MORE DIRECT.
AND I'D LIKE TO INVITE OUR ATTORNEY IN TO, UH, TOUCH ON THIS, UH, LIVING WAGE ORDINANCE.
UM, I'LL BE GLAD TO DO THAT AND HOPEFULLY, UM, SIMPLIFY THINGS RATHER THAN MAKE IT MORE COMPLICATED.
SO JUST TO CLARIFY, UM, ITEM 12, IT DOES NOT RELATE TO THE CITY'S MINIMUM WAGE REGULATIONS.
IT RATES RELATES TO THE CITY'S LIVING WAGE REGULATIONS.
AND THOSE REGULATIONS, UM, DO NOT APPLY AS BROADLY AS THE CITY'S MINIMUM WAGE DOES.
UM, THE CITY'S LIVING WAGE REGULATIONS, WHICH ACTUALLY WERE, HAVE BEEN IN PLACE LONGER THAN THE CITY'S MINIMUM WAGE, APPLY TO, UM, BUSINESSES THAT BENEFIT FROM PUBLIC FUNDS.
AND, AND MORE PARTICULARLY, UM, IN ADDITION TO APPLYING TO THE CITY ITSELF, IT APPLIES TO CONTRACTORS TO RECEIVE, UM, UM, CONTRACTS ABOVE A SPECIFIED VALUE FROM THE CITY ALSO TO LESSES OF CITY PROPERTY AND, AND SOME GRANTEES, UM, WHO RECEIVE CITY FUNDS.
UM, AND SO THOSE RATES APPLY TO, UH, WITH SOME EXCEPTIONS, INCLUDING FOR NON NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS.
UM, THEY APPLY TO THOSE, UM, ENTITIES IN THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE BENEFITING FROM, UM, PUBLIC FUNDS THROUGH CONTRACTS OR LEASES, UM, WITH THE CITY.
SO HOPEFULLY THAT PROVIDES SOME HELPFUL CLARIFICATION THAT THERE'S NO ACTION BEING TAKEN WITH RESPECT TO THE MINIMUM WAGE, UM, REGULATIONS THAT WE HAVE THAT DO APPLY TO ALL, ALL EMPLOYERS IN THE CITY.
ALSO, UM, IF I MAY, UH, CITY ATTORNEY, UM, THERE WAS A MENTION OF AN ATTORNEY FOR VIOLATIONS.
DO YOU HAVE, UM, AN UNDERSTANDING OR COMMENT BACK ON, ON THAT PARTICULAR ITEM? UM, I DON'T THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S FOR A STAFF PERSON AS OPPOSED TO OUTSIDE COUNSEL.
UH, IF, YEAH, I DON'T, IF IF WE DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER, WE'LL MOVE ON BECAUSE WE, WE ARE, YOU KNOW, AS THE
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COUNCIL KNOWS BETTER THAN ANYBODY, I'M PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THE CITY'S LEGAL SERVICES, INCLUDING THOSE WE PROVIDE IN MY OFFICE AND THOSE WE WORK WITH, UM, COLLEAGUES OUTSIDE OUR OFFICE TO PROVIDE.AND THAT'S A, THAT'S A NEW ONE ON ME.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF, AGAIN, WITH, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT, IT'S OFTEN BEST TO, UH, HAVE THEM IN WRITING AND THAT ALLOWS US TO INITIATE, UH, THE RESEARCH AND COMMENT APPROPRIATE.
SO, UH, CLOSING THAT CLOSEST PUBLIC COMMENT ON OUR CONSENT CALENDAR FOR THE, THE NIGHT, I'D LIKE TO BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL FOR A MOTION.
COUNCIL MEMBER HEALY, A MOTION COUNCIL MEMBER POKAY A SECOND.
WELL, LET ME SPEAK PLEASE AND ANY COMMENTS.
I WAS ACTUALLY GONNA MAKE A COMMENT IN THE QUESTION BEFORE MAKING A MOTION.
UM, ON ITEM FOUR, THE PUBLIC FINANCE IN CORPORATION, UM, I BELIEVE, UM, THE CITY IS PLANNING ON HAVING A SECOND BOND ISSUANCE WITHIN THE NEXT TWO YEARS.
SO THAT MAY PARTIALLY ANSWER MR. MOYNIHAN'S QUESTION, UH, BASED ON MEASURE U.
UM, BUT ON MEASURE 11, I'D BE CURIOUS TO GET STAFF'S RESPONSE ON WHETHER, UH, PUR, UH, PURCHASING USED, UM, DIVIDERS, UM, WAS LOOKED AT AS OPPOSED TO JUST GOING OUT AND BUYING NEW STUFF.
UM, THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER HEALY, HAPPY TO, UM, TO OFFER SOME CONTEXT AND CLARIFICATION.
THE, UM, THE OFFICE PARTITIONS THAT ARE IN THE, UM, CONSENT CALENDAR TONIGHT ARE NEW, BUT THEY'RE OFFICES, THEY ARE FULL HEIGHT WINDOW PRIVATE OFFICES THAT, UM, ARE NOT AVAILABLE USED AND WERE NOT AVAILABLE IN THE BUILDING.
UH, IN FACT, ALL OF THE WORKSTATIONS, UH, HAVE BEEN, UM, HAVE BEEN FURNISHED BY PREVIOUSLY OWNED USED WORKSTATION CUBICLES, UM, STORAGE TABLES, DESKS.
UM, ALL OF OUR CONFERENCE ROOMS HAVE BEEN FURNISHED BY, UM, ALSO PREVIOUSLY OWNED MATERIAL.
IN FACT, WE HAVE, UM, WE HAVE FILLED OUR OFFICE SPACE WITH ALMOST ENTIRELY USED, UM, FURNISHING.
SO THIS ONE ITEM IS FOR THE ADDITION, UH, WE NEEDED FOR ADDITIONAL PRIVATE OFFICES.
THESE ARE FOR SUPERVISOR AND ABOVE LEVEL STAFF, UH, FOR THE LEVEL OF, UM, ACOUSTIC PRIVACY THAT IS OFTEN NEEDED FOR OUR STAFF THAT IS SUPERVISING PERSONNEL.
AND, UH, AND THESE PARTICULAR OFFICES ARE PRE BASICALLY THEY'RE PRE-MANUFACTURED, UM, PANELS, ACOUSTICALLY, SOUND FLOOR TO CEILING, BUT FOR LIKE THE UPPER FRACTION OF AN INCH.
AND, UM, AND PROVIDE THAT LEVEL FOR US AT A GREAT PRICE, MUCH LESS EXPENSIVE THAN IF WE HAD TRIED TO BUILD THESE WITH STUDS AND DRYWALL AND, UM, AND ALL OF THE ACCESSORIES THAT WOULD COME WITH CONTRACTING FOR, FOR A TENANT IMPROVEMENT.
AND WITH THAT, I WILL NOW MOVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS ONE THROUGH, WHAT IS IT? 14? 14.
UH, AND SECOND IS BY, UH, OSA.
K AND, UM, ANY OTHER NOTE? UH, THEN LET'S GO TO ROLL CALL VOTE BARNACLE.
[PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION]
IS THE POINT IN THE AGENDA WHERE WE MADE THAT CHANGE EARLIER, IF YOU RECALL AND BROUGHT ITEM 17 FORWARD HERE TO BE HEARD AT THIS MOMENT.SO 17 IS THE PRELIMINARY FISCAL YEAR, 2024, 2025, CITY OF PETALUMA BUDGET, ADOPTION OF CITY BUDGET RESOLUTION AND INTRODUCTION.
FIRST READING OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2020 4 25 CITY APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE.
AND TO HELP US, UH, THROUGH THIS, UH, MATTER, UM, WE HAVE, UH, JESSE G***H, OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR, PLEASE TAKE IT AWAY.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
SO TONIGHT WE ARE ASKING YOU TO ADOPT RESOLUTIONS TO AUTHORIZE THE BUDGET AND THE LIST OF AUTHORIZED AND FUNDED POSITIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 20 24, 25, AS WELL AS INTRODUCE INTRODUCING, INTRODUCING THE APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE.
SO THE DRAFT BUDGET WAS DELIVERED TO YOU ON MAY 6TH, AND WE HELD THE WORKSHOP ON MAY 20TH BASED ON YOUR FEEDBACK AT THE WORKSHOP.
WE HAVE MADE A FEW CHANGES TO THE BUDGET BEFORE BRINGING IT BACK TO YOU.
TODAY WE HAVE ADDED $675,000 TO THE TRESTLE REHABILITATION PROJECT AND $450,000 TO THE SAFE STREETS QUICK BUILDS
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PROJECT.WE HAVE ADJUSTED THE TIMING OF THE D STREET SEWER AND WATER MAIN REPLACEMENT PROJECTS SO THAT THEY OCCUR PRIOR TO D STREET IMPROVEMENTS.
AND WE'VE ADDED THE PARK'S MASTER PLAN AS A FUTURE PROJECT IN FISCAL YEAR 20 26, 27, AND WE'VE ALSO INCREASED THE SENIOR CENTER'S OPERATING BUDGET BY A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
SORRY, JESSIE, IF I COULD JUST HAVE YOU SLOW DOWN A LITTLE BIT FOR OUR TRANSLATION.
HEY, I'M SO EXCITED ABOUT THESE CHANGES.
OKAY, SO THE BUDGET BEFORE YOU TONIGHT TOTALS 313.8 MILLION ACROSS ALL FUNDS, 77.4 MILLION OF WHICH IS FOR THE GENERAL FUND.
IT ADDS 20 NEW POSITIONS ACROSS CITY DEPARTMENTS AND IS COMMITTED TO FURTHERING THE GOALS AND PRIORITIES THAT YOU HAVE SET.
WE HAVE STREAMLINED THE ADOPTION PROCESS BY BRINGING JUST ONE ORDINANCE TO YOU TONIGHT INSTEAD OF SEVERAL, AND WE HOPE THAT WE HAVE YOUR APPROVAL AS WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEW FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING JULY 1ST.
SO NOW I'M OPEN FOR ANY FINAL QUESTIONS.
THANKS SO MUCH BRINGING IT BACK TO COUNCIL.
UM, LIKE TO LOOK ACROSS THE DIOCESE AND SEE IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON HERE.
UM, ON THE SAFE STREETS QUICK BUILDS.
THERE WAS MENTION IN THE MEMO WE RECEIVED TODAY ABOUT, UM, POSSIBLY USING OUR, UM, BUDGETED DOLLAR AS MATCH FOR OTHER GRANTS.
WHAT, WHAT KIND OF GRANTS ARE WE TALKING ABOUT AND WHAT ARE THE PROBABILITIES IN THAT?
I NEED THE EXPERTS ON THIS ONE.
SO WE'RE APPLYING FOR THE SAFE STREETS FOR ALL.
IT'S A FEDERAL GRANT, SO IT'S A LARGER GRANT.
SO WE'VE APPLIED FOR AROUND $2 MILLION WITH, UM, QUICK BUILD IMPROVEMENTS CITYWIDE.
SO THAT WOULD BE A MATCH, A 20% MATCH TOWARDS THAT, THAT GRANT THAT THIS WOULD APPLY TO.
AND I HAVE A FOLLOW UP ON THAT IF I COULD.
SO IN THE BUDGET, SINCE IT'S NOT A SECURED GRANT, UH, FOLLOWING ON THE PROBABILITY QUESTION, UH, DO WE LIST THAT IN THE BUDGET AS UNDETERMINED? IT'S, IT'S IN THE, IT'S ALREADY IN, IT'S IN THE UNDETERMINED CATEGORY.
UM, AND THEN, UH, APPRECIATE ALL ALL, UH, YOU'VE DONE ON, UH, ADDING FUNDING TO THE TRESTLE AND THEN, UH, ON THE D STREET, UM, ON D STREET, WHAT YEAR IS THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE FACILITIES LISTED FOR? SO I BELIEVE WE MOVED THE, UH, SEWER AND WATER MAIN REPLACEMENTS TO BEGIN IN FISCAL 25, SO THAT THOSE ARE HAPPENING BEFORE WE THEN DO THE STREET IMPROVEMENTS, UM, IN FUTURE YEARS.
SO THIS YEAR'S THE DESIGN, SO WE CAN DO THE CONSTRUCTION NEXT YEAR? CORRECT.
UM, AND ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? ALL RIGHT, THEN LET'S GO TO CHANCE.
I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER NOW IS CONSIDERING A QUESTION.
SINCE, UM, I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, UM, I HAVE A LITTLE HEARTBURN ON THREE, UM, UNFUNDED PARKS, CIP PROJECTS, AND THOSE ARE COMPLETING THE KENNELWORTH PARK.
WE HAVE, UM, THERE'S A WHOLE LAPSE OF A YEAR BEFORE WE HAVE MANY TO COMPLETE THE PARK.
UM, AND WE'VE DONE A YEAR OF COMMUNITY INPUT IN DESIGNING AND ASKING FOR THINGS FOR THIS PARK, AND NOW WE'RE GONNA GO A WHOLE YEAR WITHOUT FUNDING OR DOING ANYTHING.
I THINK IT DOESN'T REFLECT WELL WITH THE COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WHO'S BEEN LOOKING SO FORWARD TO THAT PARK BEING RENOVATED SINCE THEY HAD SO MUCH, UM, INPUT.
UH, SO THE SWIM CENTER, UM, THE RESTROOM DRESSING ROOMS, BRINGING THOSE UP TO STANDARDS, THERE'S NOTHING IN THE BUDGET AT ALL THIS YEAR.
UM, AND THEY ARE 20 YEARS LATE IN GETTING RE UM, REDONE.
I MEAN, THAT'S NOT JUST, UM, CLEANLINESS OR UPDATE THAT'S JUST PLAIN PRIVACY BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY, UM, HAS BEEN ASKING FOR THAT FOR A DECADE OR MORE.
UM, AND THE NEW BASEBALL FIELDS, WE WENT OUT THERE AND WE WERE VERY PROUD OF THE RIBBON CUTTING, BUT I KEPT HEARING, WHEN IS THE BLEACHERS GONNA GET PUT IN? WHEN ARE THE RESTROOMS GONNA BE PUT IN? IF YOU'RE SITTING THERE WATCHING A TWO HOUR GAME, YOU WANT RESTROOMS, UM, AS A GRANDMOTHER OF, OF, UH, BASEBALL PLAYERS, YOU NEED IT.
AND, UM, SO THOSE ARE THE HOLES THAT I SEE IN THE PARK BUDGET, AND IT GIVES ME A LOT OF HEARTBURN BECAUSE HOW
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CAN I JUSTIFY SOME OF THE OTHER MONEY THAT WE'VE GIVEN TO OTHER PROJECTS AND OTHER CIPE, WHICH DON'T HAVE, UM, AN IMPACT DAILY FOR PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, AS LONG TERM.SO THAT, THOSE ARE JUST MY QUESTIONS ON THE BUDGET, UH, RIGHT NOW THAT I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING IN THESE THREE AREAS AND SENIOR PARKS, WE, WE CAN'T EVEN GET STARTED.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP? GREAT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.
GOOD EVENING COUNCIL, UM, ACTON CITY MANAGER COMMUNITY.
DREW HALTER, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION.
UM, THE ADVOCACY FOR PARKS, I WOULD WANT TO, I THINK START BY, BY SAYING WE UNDERSTAND, UM, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF CATCHING UP TO DO AS A CITY, AND I'M REALLY EXCITED AND THRILLED TO BE PRESENTING THIS BUDGET WITH SOME, SOME KEY INVESTMENTS OVERALL.
THERE'S REALLY ABOUT NEARLY $7 MILLION OF CAPITAL INVESTMENTS TONIGHT, UH, AND AS AN INFLUX FOR THE CAPITAL PARKS PROJECTS RELATED.
SO I THINK IT, FOR ME, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO TALK ABOUT THE TIMING AND THE INVESTMENTS IN THE POOL REPLASTERING PROJECT, UM, IS CRITICAL AND THAT'S MOVED FROM A DESIGN TO CONSTRUCTION, SO IT'S CRITICAL TO SEE THOSE DOLLARS BEING SPENT THIS YEAR.
KENNELWORTH WE'RE EXCITED TO BE BRINGING, UM, ALMOST A 30% CONCEPT PLAN TO THE COUNCIL IN AUGUST.
THAT'S BEEN A REALLY EXCITING PROJECT FOR THE COMMUNITY.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF PENT UP DEMAND TO SEE THAT PARK GET REVITALIZED.
BUT AGAIN, I THINK THERE'S, THERE HAS TO BE SOME CONVERSATIONS AROUND THE CONCEPT DESIGN AND GETTING SOME FEEDBACK ON THAT.
AND SO WE'RE GONNA BE SPENDING THIS YEAR MOVING THAT PROJECT FORWARD, BUT, BUT NOT INTO CONSTRUCTION.
SO IT WAS IMPORTANT TO USE THOSE DOLLARS INTO, TO PROJECTS THAT WE COULD DELIVER.
AND THEN THE SKATE PARK IS ANOTHER ONE THAT WE'RE, WE'VE SEEN GATHER UP MOMENTUM AND WE'RE EXCITED TO TAKE FROM CONCEPT FROM DESIGN INTO CONSTRUCTION.
ALSO THE PARK ACCESS IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
THERE IS SOME MORE INFLUX TO, TO REALLY RENOVATE AND IMPROVE SOME OF THE PATHWAYS.
SO YES, THERE, THERE ARE MORE, UH, WE KNOW, WE KNOW THOSE PROJECTS ARE COMING.
UM, BUT WITH THE SWIM CENTER IN PARTICULAR, WE'RE, WE'RE USING THIS TIME NOW AFTER THE, THE POOL REPLASTERING TO ALSO KICKSTART THAT FEASIBILITY STUDY SO WE CAN START TO UNDERSTAND THE SCOPES OF SOME OPTIONS FOR PROJECTS THAT WE COULD BE STARTING TO DESIGN.
WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT AND I WOULDN'T BE A GOOD LIAISON IF I DIDN'T ALSO MENTION, UM, THEY REALLY WANNA SEE A PARK MASTER PLAN FOR THE CITY, AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY LONG OVERDUE.
WE HEAR THAT WE, WE ABSOLUTELY, UM, SUPPORT IT.
AND I KNOW, UM, THE LIAISONS FOR YOU ARE OR PUSHING IT FORWARD, WE'RE EXCITED TO SEE IT FOR THE FIRST TIME DAYLIGHTED ON THE, ON THE BUDGET AS A PRIORITY.
AND WE'RE, WE'RE ALL, ALL FOR IT.
WELL, THAT'S, THOSE ARE MY HEARTACHES.
UH, THEN I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT TO PUBLIC COMMENT AND I'D LIKE TO ASK IF WE HAVE ANY EMAILS AND IF YOU'D, UH, PROCEED WITH, UH, INVITING THE PUBLIC TO PARTICIPATE.
WE DID RECEIVE ONE COMMENT WHICH IS POSTED ONLINE.
UH, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING IN PERSON SHOULD BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARDS TO THE CLERK'S DESK IF THEY HAVE NOT ALREADY DONE SO.
SPEAKERS ARE REMINDED TO BE RESPECTFUL AND THEIR COMMENTS AND THAT THIS MEETING IS BEING TRANSLATED.
PLEASE PAUSE BETWEEN SENTENCES FOR TRANSLATION AND THE TIMER BEHIND THE DESK WILL BE RESET FOR EACH SPEAKER.
WE DO HAVE ONE IN-PERSON CARD SO FAR.
UH, I'D LIKE TO INVITE SANDRA CHAND, UH, COME AND HAVE SPEAK TO THE PUBLIC ON THIS, UH, BUDGET.
UM, THE LANDS MEASURE J WOULD OPEN TO THE DEVELOP TO DEVELOPMENTS ARE HIGHER ELEVATION THAN PETALUMA, MAKING US DOWNSTREAM PAVING TRACKS OF LAND THAT FORMERLY RETAINED WATER DIRECTLY AFFECTS WEST PETALUMA NEIGHBORHOODS AND COULD OVERWHELM THE INFRASTRUCTURE UPGRADES WE WON 25 YEARS AGO TO EXACTLY ADDRESS THIS ISSUE OF WATER IMPACT FROM DEVELOPMENT TO OUR WEST.
UM, COUNCIL MEMBER HEALY, YOU MAY REMEMBER THAT AT ONE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING WE MANAGED TO GET AN INFRASTRUCTURE UPGRADE.
THERE WAS A BIKE PATH THROWN IN THERE, AND THE NEW BALL FIELDS AT THE TIME AND WHAT KIND OF TURF WOULD BE.
SO THIS IS A VERY REAL ISSUE, AND I WILL TALK TO YOU LATER BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT NEEDS A LITTLE MORE EXPLANATION THAN THIS.
ALSO, DEVELOPMENT TO OUR WEST, UH, PETALUMA WOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR IMPROVING AND
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MAINTAINING OUR STREETS, INCREASED ROAD USE OF NEW COUNTY RESIDENTS DRIVING EAST THROUGH PETALUMA TO REACH PETALUMA SCHOOLS AND TO REACH JOBS SOUTH ON 1 0 1.DEVELOPERS WOULD RE ALL THE BENEFITS WHILE PETALUMA RESIDENTS WOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE NECESSITIES.
UM, ANYWAY, I WILL CONTACT YOU AND TRY TO MAKE THIS CLEARER BECAUSE I KEEP TRYING TO CONDENSE THINGS THAT DON'T MAKE SENSE WHEN THEY'RE CONDENSED.
UH, THAT CLOSES, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THE EVENING ON THIS ITEM.
BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL FOR ANY, UH, COMMENTARY ON OUR BUDGET.
AND, UM, I'D JUST LIKE TO TAKE A, A MINUTE ON THE LEAD OFF THAT.
UM, UH, IT WAS WONDERFUL BEING OUTTA THE BALLPARKS THIS PAST WEEKEND.
AND, UM, IT WAS WONDERFUL BEING ABLE TO THROW A FEW DOLLAR FACTS OUT.
UM, I, I KNOW BACK IN, UH, 2 0 0 5 WHEN WE WERE TRYING TO DO IT PRIVATELY, IT NEVER WAS GONNA HAPPEN PRIVATELY.
AND WHEN WE TRIED TO DO IT WITH A BALLOT MEASURE IN 2012, WE GOT 62% OF THE PEOPLE TO VOTE FOR BALLOT MEASURE, BUT IT'S TWO THIRDS AND THAT, UH, SO A BALLOT MEASURE FAILED BACK THEN, BUT THE CITY PICKED UP THE BALL AND CARRIED IT.
AND, UM, UH, COUNTY OPEN SPACE HELPED DRAMATICALLY TO, UH, PURCHASE OF THE ENTIRE, UH, TO INVEST IN THE ENTIRETY OF THE PROCESS PROJECT.
AND, UM, AND WE GOT THREE FIELDS OPENED UP THERE IN ABOUT 2015, UH, THIS FOURTH FIELD, UH, NOT TILL NOW, BUT THE, THE THREE FIELDS OPENED WITH NO RESTROOMS FOR 10 YEARS, WELL, FOR A COUPLE YEARS BEFORE WE FINALLY FOUND THE NEXT PIECE.
AND IT SEEMS LIKE, UH, THE WAY IT IS IN, UM, SOME OF OUR EFFORTS IS THAT IT TAKES PHASES AND WE BUILD UPON SUCCESS UPON SUCCESS.
AND, UH, AND, YOU KNOW, UM, YEAH, IT'S A QUOTE, A LINE FROM A MOVIE.
UH, EVERYTHING WILL BE FINE IN THE END, AND IF IT'S NOT FINE, IT'S NOT THE END.
SO, UM, THE, UM, SO WE HAVE TO KEEP WORKING TO MAKE THE NEXT, UH, PIECE OF THIS COME TOGETHER.
BUT THE FUNDING FOR THE BASEBALL FIELD, UH, OF $7 MILLION WAS OVER $5 MILLION.
FIVE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS CAME FROM PARKS DEVELOPMENT FEES, THAT'S DEVELOPER FEES.
SO THAT WE HAVE BEEN TUCKING AWAY AT EVERY LITTLE DEVELOPMENT AND EVERY BIG DEVELOPMENT THAT CAME THROUGH TOWN FOR A LONG TIME.
UM, VERY DIFFICULT TO FIND GENERAL FUND MONEY FOR THIS.
WE ALSO FOUND A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF, UH, TRANSPORTATION OCCUPANCY TAX, UH, FEES.
SO WHEN WE HAVE, UM, PEOPLE COMING TO TOWN, STAYING IN TOWN, UH, LIKING WHAT WE HAVE HERE, THEY CONTRIBUTE TO MAKING IT BETTER FOR US TO LIVE HERE.
SO THAT'S A VERY POSITIVE, AND THAT'S WHERE THOSE MONIES GO.
YOU OFTEN WONDER WHERE DO THOSE MONEY GOES? WHAT PROJECT IS THAT? I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE CITY SHOWCASE THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY DO WITH THIS, WITH THESE FUNDS.
UM, AND, AND THAT WAS ONE OFF THE TOP I WANTED TO SAY.
I HAVE A FEW OTHER COMMENTS, BUT I'LL ASK THE REST OF THE COUNCIL WHO NEEDS TO WEIGH IN ON THE BUDGET.
SO, UM, YEAH, SANDRA DUKE CONTACTING ME.
'CAUSE I I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND THE CONNECTION BETWEEN MEASURE J AND THE ISSUES YOU RAISED.
IT'S NOT GOING TO, I BELIEVE, AND I HAVEN'T READ IT FRONT TO BACK, IT'S NOT GONNA COVER, IT'S NOT GONNA MODIFY, MODIFY CITY ZONING OR COUNTY ZONING OR THE CITY'S URBAN GROWTH BOUNDARY OR, OR ANY OF THOSE THINGS.
UM, WITH RESPECT TO THE BUDGET ITSELF, UM, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, UM, A COUPLE OF THINGS.
FIRST OF ALL, I THOUGHT MR. WEINER MOYNIHAN RAISED SOME INTERESTING POINTS IN HIS EMAIL, UM, IN, IN TERMS OF HOW WE'RE PRIORITIZING THE USE OF MEASURE U FUNDS.
UM, I I, I THOUGHT HIS, UM, PROPOSED SOLUTION WAS A LITTLE SIMPLISTIC, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE SHOULDN'T BE HAVING A CONVERSATION, UH, AROUND THOSE ISSUES, UH, GOING FORWARD.
AND WHAT'S THE BEST MIX OF PERSONNEL VERSUS, UM, CAPITAL NEEDS, INCLUDING STREETS.
UM, I WAS VERY HERE TO HAPPY TO HEAR STAFF SAY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THE TRESTLE AND THE QUICK BUILDS PROGRAM IS GETTING ADDITIONAL FUNDING FROM WHAT WAS IN THE, UH, INITIAL BUDGET.
UM, AND, AND I HAVE TO SAY THAT, UM, THIS BUDGET IS JUST SO MUCH BETTER THAN WHAT I'VE, I'VE COME TO EXPECT OVER THE YEARS.
WHEN I FIRST STARTED, UH, IN THIS JOB, OUR THEN CITY MANAGER, FRED STOUTER, USED TO SAY EVERY YEAR AT THIS TIME THAT WE WERE DOING LESS WITH LESS.
AND, UM, THAT'S NO LONGER WHAT, WHAT THE THEME OF THE BUDGET IS.
SO, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE FUNDING SO MANY MUCH MORE THINGS THAT WE WERE NEVER ABLE TO FUND IN THE PAST.
UM, AND, AND YET I WILL BE VOTING NO ON THE BUDGET.
AND THERE'S ONE SPECIFIC REASON FOR THAT.
AND THAT'S THE $3.4 MILLION IN THE CIP FOR THE CALL FIELD.
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UM, SOUTHERN CROSSING FOR DESIGN PLANNING EN ENVIRONMENTAL AND LAND ACQUISITION.AND, AND I THINK THAT $3.4 MILLION IS, IS INAPPROPRIATE TO SPEND BECAUSE OF THE $56 MILLION FUNDING GAP FOR THE CALL FIELD PROJECT, WHICH TO ME MEANS THAT CHANCE, THAT PROJECT HAS NONE CHANCE OF EVER ACTUALLY GETTING BUILT.
AND IT, IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE JUST A FEW YEARS AGO, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS WITHIN THE MEMORY OF MOST COUNCIL MEMBERS, UM, THEN MAYOR DAVID GLASS USED TO RIDICULE ME FOR EXPECTING THAT THE EASTER BUNNY WAS TO COME GOING TO COME AND PAY FOR THE RAINIER CONNECTOR.
UM, AND NOW I FEEL THE SHOES ON THE OTHER FOOT IN A WAY THERE, UM, THERE'S JUST NO, NO PLAUSIBLE FUNDING MECHANISM FOR, FOR GETTING THAT $56 MILLION.
AND, AND TO ME, THIS LOOKS LIKE, AS I SAID BEFORE, THE CALIFORNIA HIGH-SPEED REAL RAIL FUNDING MODEL, WHERE WE'RE GONNA SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON SOMETHING THAT'S NOT USEFUL AND THEN ACT SURPRISED WHEN THE MESS REST OF THE MONEY TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT DOESN'T SOMEHOW MATERIALIZE.
SO I THINK IT'S TIME TO TAKE A PAUSE ON, ON THE CALL FIELD CONNECTOR AND REALLY RETHINK HOW WE CAN CREATE A CONNECTOR FOR THIS COMMUNITY THAT WORKS.
I THINK PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY CARE A LOT LESS THAN MEMBERS OF THIS COUNCIL ON WHICH PARTICULAR CONNECTOR GETS BUILT.
UM, AND I THINK THEY'D BE HAPPY WITH THAT.
BUT COALFIELD AT THIS POINT, I THINK INITIALLY PEOPLE THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE CHEAPER THAN NOW IT'S TURNING OUT TO BE, AND IT'S TIME TO HIT THE PAUSE BUTTON.
COUNCIL MEMBER CATER THOMPSON.
WELL, UM, I'D BE HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT TRANSPORTATION AND COSTS.
UM, FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WAS SPENT ON RAINIER, KNOWING IT WASN'T GONNA BE BUILT.
IT WAS GASLIGHTING THE CITY FOR MANY YEARS.
UM, 1999, CALTRANS WAS WILLING TO DO CORONA AS A FULL INTERCHANGE CROSSTOWN CONNECTOR THAT WAS AXE.
AND I BELIEVE MR. HEALY KNOWS THAT, UM, THE PUBLIC IS ASKING FOR A CROSSTOWN CONNECTOR.
THE RIVERFRONT WAS APPROVED WITH ONE ENTRANCE IN OVER RAIL TRACKS, AND THAT WAS IT.
AND IT SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN APPROVED WITHOUT, UM, UNDERSTANDING HOW WE WERE GONNA GET MORE THAN ONE ENTRANCE IN AND OUT.
THE PROJECT WAS DESIGNED POORLY.
IT SH THE CALL FIELD SHOULD HAVE BEEN WHAT THE DESIGN WAS AROUND, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT HAPPENED.
AND MR. HEALY, YOU WERE PART OF THAT PROJECT.
AND SO WHEN WE WANNA START, YOU KNOW, THROWING MUD ABOUT WHY PROJECTS AREN'T DONE, WE NEED TO GO BACK IN HISTORY AND SEE WHY PROJECTS WEREN'T DONE.
AND IT WAS ALL POLITICAL REASONS.
AND NOW WE'RE PLAYING THE SAME GASLIGHTING WITH CAULFIELD.
CAULFIELD'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT IS AN ACCESS ROAD FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, UM, TO GET ACROSS THE RIVER.
RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE THAT ABILITY AND WE CAN'T JUST KEEP, UM, SAYING, OH, I DON'T WANT TO THROW MONEY AT THIS, BUT YOU'VE BEEN THROWING MILLIONS AT SOMETHING THAT WAS NEVER GONNA HAPPEN FOR YEARS.
AND SO I THINK THIS BUDGET IS VERY GOOD, AND I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE ON CALL FIELD.
I THINK THERE DOES NEED TO BE MITIGATION WHEN CALL FIELD IS, UM, READY TO BE BUILT BECAUSE IT, IT DOES GO RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IT WAS VERY BAD PLANNING, AND WE'RE TRYING TO ACTUALLY REVERSE BAD PLANNING.
UM, AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING.
AND TO NOT SUPPORT A CROSS TOWN TEAM CONNECTOR IS, IS LITERALLY PLAYING THE POLITICAL GAME.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO STOP THAT.
AND SO I'LL BE SUPPORTING THIS BUDGET.
UM, COUNCIL MEMBER NOW, UM, I HAVE TO AGREE WITH, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER HEALY THAT WE NEED TO PAUSE ON THIS CROSSTOWN CONNECTOR.
THE OTHER PARTS OF THAT RIVER, UM, HOUSING DEVELOPMENT HAS NOT BEEN COMPLETED, AND THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOT COMPLETELY AWARE THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS, SO I THINK WE NEED TO DO MORE COMMUNITY OUTREACH.
AND THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RIVER, THE NEW, UM, DE DEVELOPMENT HASN'T BEEN FINISHED.
AND I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO NOT PAUSE ON THE THREE UNFUNDED PROJECTS THAT ARE ON HOLD THROUGH NEXT YEAR FOR THE PARKS AND THINK ABOUT OUR SENIOR FUNDING FOR OUR SENIOR PARKS AND THAT PARK MASTER PLAN.
UM, WE NEED TO SPEND THAT TIME AND MONEY ON THOSE PRIORITIES BECAUSE WE MIGHT NOT SEE A CROSSTOWN CONNECTOR FOR DECADES, BUT WE NEED THOSE PARKS AND THOSE, UM, ASSETS LIKE YESTERDAY.
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THE BUDGET AS WELL.I THINK, UM, I NEED TO JUMP IN HERE FOR A SECOND.
AND, UM, UM, I THINK ALL OF US ARE VERY CONCERNED IN THE COFFEE FIELD, UH, PROJECT AND, AND HOW UNFUNDED, UH, WHAT THE UNFUNDED BALANCE IS HERE.
UM, DO WE HAVE A WORKSHOP ON OUR FUTURE AGENDA? ARE WE, UH, ARE WE GONNA REVISIT THIS SOON? EXCUSE ME.
WE DO HAVE, UH, CAULFIELD, UM, WORKSHOP.
IT'S NOT A WORKSHOP, IT'S A PRESENTATION ON AN UPCOMING COUNCIL AGENDA.
AND, UH, DURING THAT TIME, STAFF WAS, UH, PLANNING TO PRESENT TO COUNCIL PROGRESS ON THE PROJECT, WHAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY, UM, AND, AND WHERE WE'RE AT CURRENTLY.
I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS MY COMFORT THAT, UH, WHEN WE SEE THAT IT WILL HELP US KEEP A CLEARER EYE ON, UH, HOW WE SPEND MONEY THIS YEAR AND THEN HAVING IT IN THE BUDGET IS, UM, IS IMPORTANT.
UH, MAKING THE DECISION ON HOW AND WHEN IT GETS SPENT IS ALSO IMPORTANT.
SO I'M, I'M COMFORTABLE AT, AT, AT THIS LEVEL.
AND DID I SEE A HAND DOWN HERE? COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLE? YEAH, I'LL MOVE THE ITEM.
I THINK WE'RE NOT QUITE THERE, BUT, UH, I'LL REMEMBER WHO MADE THE MOTION.
AND, UM, FOR, FOR MYSELF, UM, I'M VERY HAPPY TO SEE THE TRESTLE FUNDING, UH, IN THERE.
THAT'S, UH, OBVIOUSLY A BIG ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BOOST FOR US IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
BUT I AM CONCERNED, AND PERHAPS WE SHOULD ALWAYS ALL BE CONCERNED ABOUT OUR BUDGET.
UM, YOU KNOW, UM, I THINK WE'RE AT THE HEYDAY OF OUR BUDGETS THE MOST IT'S EVER BEEN NOW.
UM, LAST YEAR WAS THE MOST WE EVER ACHIEVED, UH, UH, BUT THAT GROWTH RATE IS IN EXCESS OF OUR REVENUE INCREASE RATE.
SO THAT'S A LITTLE SOMETHING TO KEEP AN EYE ON FOR THE, THE, THE FUTURE YEARS.
AND THE BUDGET DOES TALK ABOUT OUTLYING YEARS.
UM, BUT, UH, WE, WE ARE, UH, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT OUR METRICS AND OUR, AND OUR INFRASTRUCTURE WE'RE NOT FALLING FURTHER BEHIND.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE SO FAR BEHIND, UM, THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY CATCHING UP.
AND SO I, I LOVE SEEING PRESENTATIONS THAT SHOW, OH, OUR, OUR PCR PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX HAS RISEN BY THIS MUCH, AND WE EXPECT IT TO RISE MORE BY THIS MUCH SO THAT WE CAN SAY, WELL, THAT'S NOT FAST ENOUGH, OR THAT IS FAST ENOUGH.
AND, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE NOT ACHIEVED OUR FULL CAPITAL BUDGETING IN THE FA PAST FEW YEARS.
AND, UM, BUT YET EVERY YEAR WAS MORE THAN WE HAD EVER DONE BEFORE.
AND I'D LIKE TO SEE US GET A HUNDRED PERCENT OF OUR EXPENDITURE THIS YEAR.
THE, THE MONEY GIVEN TO STAFF TO DO CAPITAL PROJECTS SHOULD BE A HUNDRED PERCENT EXPENDED, UH, NOT COME IN AT 75.
AND THINGS LIKE COFIELD WILL INFLUENCE THAT.
I THINK WE HAVE THE RIGHT PEOPLE.
I THINK WE JUST NEED TO DELIVER, UM, THE PROJECTS THAT NEED TO BE DELIVERED.
I'M ALSO WORRIED THAT OUR GENERAL FUND, UM, UH, THE OBLIGATIONS ON IT MEASURE U UH, BREATHE NEW LIFE INTO THE CITY.
UM, BUT WE'RE KIND OF AT THE END OF WHAT MEASURE U CAN DO FOR THE CITY.
UH, WE'RE 85% OF ANNUAL REVENUE FROM MEASURE U IS GOING IN THE GENERAL FUND NOW.
AND, UM, 85 IS A LOT OF WHAT WAS PROMISED TO FIX BOTH INFRASTRUCTURE AND, AND, UH, UM, RETOOL OUR, OUR STAFFING CAPACITY.
SO, UH, I THINK SOME OF THE MOST IMPORTANT PAGES IN OUR BUDGET COULD BE THE FIVE YEAR PAGES, OR WE'D LOOK OUT A COUPLE YEARS.
AND THERE, UH, SO MANY CITIES AROUND US ARE IN BUDGET TROUBLES FOR A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT REASONS.
UH, NOVATO, SANTA ROSA, SEBASTOPOL.
UM, AND, AND I THINK WE NEED TO WORRY ABOUT OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT EQUALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, MORE BUSINESS IN TOWN, MORE TOT TAX, LIKE I WAS SAYING IS, IS WILL SUSTAIN THE CITY.
UM, SO, UH, I SEE THIS AS OUR LAST GO GO YEAR WHERE, UH, MEASURE U HAS BROUGHT US FROM THE DOORSTEP OF TURNING THE LIGHTS OUT TO, UH, BEING A FULL SERVICE CITY AGAIN, BUT IT MIGHT BE THE LAST GO GO YEAR.
AND IT MIGHT BE THE RESETTING THE NORM, UH, AFTER THIS YEAR.
AND, UH, AND I THINK THAT EVERYBODY SHARES THESE CONCERNS ON COUNCIL AND PROBABLY IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT, UH, WE, WE DO SO WANT TO SEE THE ACHIEVEMENTS TO MAKE THIS TOWN A BETTER TOWN.
SO, MR. MAYOR, MY THANKS TO STAFF, MR. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT AND, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER CATER THOMPSON.
WELL, MY COMMENT'S GONNA BE ON MEASURE U BECAUSE I WAS ON THE MEASURE U COMMITTEE, AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I ASKED, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I RECOGNIZED THAT FIVE YEARS AGO WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY CITY STAFF.
AND WHAT MEASURE U DID WAS REALLY, UM, MAKE IT THAT WE COULD HAVE A FULL SERVICE CITY WITH CITY STAFF.
YES, WE HAVE CONTRACT PLANNERS, BUT THAT'S JUST NORMAL.
AND SO FOR THE FIRST TIME, UM, IN MANY, MANY YEARS, WE ARE ACTUALLY ACTING AS A FULL CITY, YOU KNOW, WITH ALL THE SERVICES.
WHEN I WAS ON THE MEASURE U COMMITTEE, I DID ASK THE QUESTION WHEN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE WAS A DEPLETION IN HOW MUCH IN AS,
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AS FAR AS SHOWING UP THE CITY VERSUS HOW MUCH WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO EXPEND ON ROADS, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE PUBLIC, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THE PUBLIC WAS SOLD ON.WE WERE GONNA DO ALL OF THESE ROADS.
BUT IF YOU READ THE, THE MEASURE, THAT'S REALLY, THAT'S PART OF IT.
AND THE OTHER PART WAS SHOWING UP THE CITY FIVE YEARS AGO.
WE, I MEAN, WE HAD A NEW CITY MANAGER.
WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY STAFF LITERALLY IN THIS BUILDING.
AND SO THIS IS WHAT MEASURE YOU DID FOR US.
AND THERE WAS GOING TO BE LESS FOUR ROADS AS TIME WENT ON.
AND IT WAS JUST, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT YOU READ.
IF YOU READ THE BALLOT MEASURE.
I DON'T ALWAYS GO BY THE LITERATURE OF WHAT PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO SELL YOU.
I ALWAYS READ, SO I KNOW WHAT I'M REALLY BEING SOLD.
AND THAT'S WHAT THE COUNCIL PUT ON THE BALLOT.
AND SO WE ARE GONNA HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT IS GONNA HAPPEN WITH MEASURE U AS THE, THE FUNDS SHIFT AROUND AND THEY'RE STARTING TO SHIFT AROUND.
AND I AM HAPPY TO LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.
BUT I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO FEEL AS THOUGH WE'RE CHEATING AND WE'RE PUTTING MONEY HERE, AND WE'RE HIRING ALL THIS STAFF.
THERE WAS, THERE IS, THERE WAS A REASON BEHIND IT.
ANY GOOD BUSINESS WOULD DO THAT.
AND YOU'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO CHASE, UH, MONEY.
WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS.
SONOMA COUNTY TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY THAT I'M ON, THERE ARE MILLIONS THAT THE CITY OF PETALUMA GETS.
WE'RE ALWAYS GOING AFTER GRANTS.
SO IT'S NOT JUST CITY FUND TAXES THAT ARE GOING TOWARD, UH, PROJECTS, WHICH, UM, YOU KNOW, GRANTS ARE TAXES TOO.
I MEAN, IT'S ALL KIND OF IN THE SAME POT, BUT THEY'RE JUST DIFFERENT NAMES.
AND SO IT'S COMPLICATED TO RUN A CITY, BUT THE CITIZENS OF PETALUMA WANT A FULL SERVICE CITY.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GIVING THEM.
AND WE HAVE TO, UM, WORK EVEN HARDER NOW TO GET OTHER PROJECTS DONE.
UM, AND THAT'S KIND OF THE WAY IT GOES.
BUT JUST ALWAYS BE AWARE WHEN YOU'RE VOTING ON IT ON SOMETHING.
KNOW WHAT YOU'RE REALLY VOTING ON.
DON'T JUST VOTE ON THE LITERATURE THAT COMES INTO YOUR MAIL THAT SAYS THIS.
BECAUSE MEASURE U IS DOING EXACTLY WHAT MEASURE U WAS SUPPOSED TO DO.
YEAH, JUST VERY BRIEFLY, I'M NOT GONNA RESPOND TO MS. GATOR THOMPSON'S COMMENTS ON CROSSTOWN CONNECTORS AND, UH, AND THE RIVERFRONT PROJECT.
'CAUSE WE COULD GO BACK AND FORTH ALL NIGHT ON THAT, I'M SURE.
UM, BUT THERE WAS ONE THING I NEGLECTED TO SAY EARLIER, WHICH IS THAT MY CRITICISM OF THE CALL FIELD BRIDGE, CIP PROJECT IS IN NO WAY A CRITICISM OF STAFF.
UM, I THINK STAFF IS DOING THE ABSOLUTE BEST IT CAN, GIVEN THE DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL MAJORITY.
AND, AND THAT'S WHO HAS RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS.
AND WITH THAT, UH, I BELIEVE WE HAVE A MOTION FROM BARNACLE, AND I NEED A SECOND.
AND MAY WE HAVE A ROLL CALL? VOTE BARNACLE.
UH, THAT'S THE BIGGEST POLICY, UH, EFFORT WE MAKE IN A YEAR.
AND, AND, UH, WE'VE, UH, GOT THAT UNDER OUR BELT.
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NOW TO ITEM 15.UH, I NEED A SCORECARD TO KEEP ALONG HERE, BUT ITEM 15 IS A PRESENTATION DISCUSSION OF POLICY OPTIONS FOR ESTABLISHING A PARKLET PROGRAM KNOWN AS THE CITY'S FREE RANGE PROGRAM TO INCREASE OPPORTUNITIES FOR CREATING PUBLIC SPACES IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY.
I'D LIKE TO INVITE, UH, UH, BRIAN O, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TO KICK IT OFF AS SOON AS WE LOAD THE PA PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCIL COMMUNITY.
MY NAME IS BRIAN O, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
JOINED HERE THIS EVENING, UH, BY OUR DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND OPEN GOVERNMENT, INGRID VERDE, AS WELL AS NANCY SANDS OF, OF SAID DEPARTMENT.
UM, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TONIGHT TO SPEAK WITH YOU AND THE COMMUNITY TO FACILITATE A WORKSHOP, UM, ABOUT PARKLETS.
AND, UM, THIS PROJECT, THIS PROCESS IS ESSENTIALLY FOUR YEARS IN THE MAKING.
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UM, JUST A SHORT AGENDA, UM, OVERVIEW.WE WILL BRIEFLY TOUCH ON THE PARKLET HISTORY, UM, HERE IN TOWN, UM, SHARE SOME OF THE EXPERIENCES STAFF AND THE COMMUNITY HAS EXPERIENCED OVER THE PAST FOUR YEARS AS PART OF THE, UH, WHAT WE CALL THE FREE RANGE PROGRAM.
UM, AND THEN WALK THROUGH SOME OPTIONS THAT ARE OUTLINED IN THE STAFF REPORT.
THEN MAYOR, I'LL TURN IT BACK TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL.
UM, THEN TURN TO PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION.
I DON'T BELIEVE ONE OF THESE, A SINGLE ONE OF THESE ARE, UM, AN EXAMPLE OF ONE IN TOWN, BUT, UM, PARKLETS PREDATE, UM, WHAT WE, UM, HAVE LARGELY KNOWN AS, UM, AN EFFORT TO SUPPORT LOCAL BUSINESSES DURING SHELTER IN PLACE.
UM, IT'S A, UH, WORLD KNOWN MODEL OF REPURPOSING PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY INTO PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO GATHER.
UM, AND STATESIDE, MANY OF OUR LARGER CITIES, CITY OF LOS ANGELES, SAN FRANCISCO, NEW YORK, UM, WERE EARLY ADOPTERS.
UM, AND THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF JURISDICTIONS THAT HAVE, UH, FOLLOWED, UM, THIS MODEL AND HAVE SUC WILDLY SUCCESSFUL PROGRAMS, MANY HERE IN THE BAY AREA, WHICH WE DREW MUCH OF OUR INSPIRATION AND RESEARCH FROM.
SO, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE FREE RANGE HISTORY HERE IN PETALUMA.
UM, ASIDE FROM THE VERY CREATIVE NAME, UM, UH, IT WAS, UH, LARGELY A TEMPORARY PROGRAM TO SAVE, UH, JOBS AND BUSINESSES.
SO WE ARE, UM, ESSENTIALLY A LITTLE OVER FOUR YEARS REMOVED.
UM, THIS IS A, UM, GOOD REMINDER THAT, UM, THE GRADUATING CLASS THIS YEAR, UM, FROM PETALUMA HIGH AND CASA ARE, UM, WHAT'S KNOWN AS THE COVID CLASS, UM, STARTED DURING THE PANDEMIC GRADUATING, UM, UM, THIS YEAR.
UM, AND THIS PROGRAM HAS, UH, ESSENTIALLY TRACKED THAT, UM, TRAJECTORY.
AND SO AT ITS HEIGHT, UH, THE CITY WAS ABLE TO QUICKLY SUPPORT UP TO 58, UH, LOCAL BUSINESSES, UM, UH, IN ADDITION TO THE ONES THAT WE SEE CURRENTLY, UH, A NUMBER OF OTHER, UH, TYPES OF INDUSTRIES.
EVERYTHING FROM YOGA STUDIOS TO BE HELD OUTSIDE HAIRDRESSERS, UM, TO GET BUSINESS AND HAIRCUTS DONE, UM, UH, WITH THE SAFETY OF BEING OUTDOORS.
SO IN TOTAL, UH, 22, UM, PARKLETS OR FREE RANGE PROJECTS THAT WERE IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
AND SO THIS MEANS ESSENTIALLY, UH, WHERE PARKING SPACES AND, UM, OUR SIDEWALKS EXIST 36, UM, IN THE PRIVATE RIGHT OF WAY.
AND SO MANY OF THEM, UM, HAVE OCCURRED.
SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT, UH, TORTILLA REAL, UM, THAT WAS DONE.
UM, AS AN EXAMPLE, IT'S A PRIVATE, UM, OUTDOOR SPACE, UM, THAT WAS EXTENDED INTO PRIVATE, UH, PARKING, UH, WHICH NO LONGER, UM, EXISTS TODAY.
UM, AND SO THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, WE, THE CITY HAD TO GET CREATIVE.
OUR MERCHANTS HAD TO GET CREATIVE, UM, AS WELL AS OUR, UM, RESIDENTS HAD TO GET CREATIVE DURING THIS TIME.
UM, AS WONDERFUL AS OUR WEATHER IS.
UM, THERE WERE ALSO, UM, IN ORDER TO SUPPORT BUSINESSES SEASONALLY, UM, DURING THE WET WEATHER, WE DID, UM, ALSO SUPPORT 30 LOCATIONS WITH TENTS AND CANOPIES, UM, TO KEEP BUSINESS GOING, UM, DURING THE WET WINTER, THE WET WEATHER, AND THEN A TOTAL OF SIX STRUCTURES BUILT.
AND WE'LL TOUCH ON THIS LATER, UH, THREE OF THOSE SUPPORTED BY A CREATIVE SONOMA ART GRANT, UM, THAT WAS FACILITATED BY OUR, UM, DOWNTOWN ASSOCIATION.
THIS MAP IS, UM, ALSO IN YOUR PACKET, BUT IT GIVES YOU JUST A HIGH LEVEL OF WHAT'S EXISTING NOW, A TOTAL OF, UM, 13 PARKING SPACES OR PARKLETS, UM, THAT ARE CURRENTLY, UM, IN EXISTENCE.
UM, WHICH AGAIN, A NUMBER, A NUMBER OF THE PARKLETS HAVE.
UM, THERE HAS BEEN SOME ATTRITION, UM, OVER THE FOUR YEAR, YEAR PERIOD.
HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF EIGHT, OF THOSE 13 THAT ARE STILL IN PLACE.
UM, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, THEY RUN THE GAMUT OF, UH, IN TERMS OF DESIGN, IN TERMS OF LENGTH, IN TERMS OF USE.
UM, AND SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, UH, THIS EVENING, UM, AND WE WILL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PUBLIC SURVEY THAT WE HAD OPEN, UM, EARLIER THIS YEAR, UM,
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IS TO GET SOME DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL TO FORMALIZE THE PROGRAM.UM, I THINK THE RESOUNDING, UM, UH, RESPONSE THAT WE HEARD BACK FROM THE COMMUNITY AND THROUGH THE ONGOING CONVERSATIONS IS THE PROGRAM IN CONCEPT.
UM, THERE'S, UM, SUPPORT FOR, UM, BUT ASKING FOR THE CITY TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A, UM, MEASURED APPROACH WHEN IT COMES TO DESIGN AND SOME OF THE OTHER POLICY ITEMS THAT ARE BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.
IT'S, UH, A GOOD POINT TO ALWAYS START WITH WHY, UM, WHY WE'RE DOING THIS, SOME OF THE, THE GOAL SETTING HERE.
AND SO WE'VE IDENTIFIED SIX GOALS, UM, ON WHY THE, UM, WHAT SHOULD GO INTO THE PARKLET PROGRAM.
UM, PARKLETS ARE A PLACE FOR, UH, COMMUNITY TO GATHER.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, JUST E EVEN IF IT'S A MOMENT IN TIME, UM, WHILE YOU'RE DOWNTOWN GOING FOR A MERCHANT TO MERCHANT, UM, LOOKING FOR THOSE OPPORTUNITIES, UM, TO GATHER, UH, IN THE PUBLIC REALM.
PARKLETS ARE, UH, A WAY FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
SO HOW DO WE, UM, CREATE PLACES THAT ARE INTERESTING, UM, PLACES THAT, UM, ATTRACT VISITORS, ATTRACT OUR RESIDENTS TO, UM, SPEND MORE TIME, UM, AND SPEND MORE OF THEIR, UH, CAPITAL, UH, DOWNTOWN ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION, UM, BY CREATING PLACES, UM, THAT ARE MORE INTERESTING.
UM, PERHAPS PAIRING THEM WITH, UM, THE APPROPRIATE, UH, BIKE RACKS, UM, AS ANOTHER WAY TO ENCOURAGE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION, BOTH, UM, BIKING AND PEOPLE WALKING.
UM, AND THEN ALSO FAMILY FRIENDLY SPACES.
WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BEING AGE FRIENDLY.
UM, AND SO ANOTHER, UM, UH, OPPORTUNITY HERE FOR A, A CITY PROGRAM TO HELP, UH, PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE SPACES, UM, INTO THE DOWNTOWN.
WE ALL, UM, KNOW AND LOVE PARKLETS, UH, HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO INCREASE FOOT TRAFFIC.
SO AS YOU ARE BRINGING MORE INTERESTING PLACES FOR GATHERING AND ECONOMIC ACTIVITY, UM, RIGHT IN FRONT OF, UM, OF POTENTIAL SPONSORING, UH, PARKLET APPLICANT, UM, YOU'RE NATURALLY BRINGING, UM, FOOT TRAFFIC, UM, UP TO THE MERCHANTS AND THEN ULTIMATELY TO BEAUTIFY PUBLIC PUBLIC SPACES.
UM, WE WANT IT TO BE ATTRACTIVE.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE THE DESIGN COMPONENT COMES IN.
WE HAVE, UH, SIX, SO LOCATION AND DENSITY IS COMBINED INTO ONE, BUT TWO DIFFERENT SLIDES.
BUT IN YOUR STAFF REPORT, THERE ARE SIX POLICY OPTIONS, UM, THAT WE'D LIKE TO WALK COUNSEL THROUGH.
UM, AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS, I'LL COME BACK AND, UM, WE CAN WALK THROUGH, UM, IF THE COUNCIL CHOOSES, UM, TO GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THOSE, PERHAPS THROUGH ARORA POLL, UM, SO WE CAN GET THE, THE NEEDED, UM, INPUT TO MOVE FORWARD.
UM, AND SO JUST AT A HIGH LEVEL, THIS QUESTION ABOUT PUBLIC VERSUS PRIVATE, UM, INITIALLY STARTED AS A, UM, PUBLIC USE.
UM, ESSENTIALLY, UH, A MINI PARK, IF YOU WILL, UM, AGAIN, DURING THE PANDEMIC, UM, IT WAS A TOOL TO SUPPORT, UM, LOCAL BUSINESSES.
UM, AND SO THIS QUESTION AGAIN IS, UM, COMING BACK UP ABOUT PUBLIC VERSUS PRIVATE USE, LOCATION AND DENSITY.
SO WHERE SHOULD THEY BE LOCATED? HOW MANY, UM, SHOULD THE CITY BE, UM, UM, ACCOMMODATING? WHAT SHOULD THEY LOOK LIKE? UM, HOW QUICKLY AND WHAT TYPE OF REVIEW SHOULD THE CITY HAVE? UM, HOW MUCH SHOULD WE BE CHARGING? AND THEN ALSO, WHAT DO WE DO WITH THE EXISTING 13, UH, PARKLETS THAT ARE CURRENTLY, UM, IN PLACE? SO THERE'S BEEN, UM, SORT OF A, A LONGER TAIL, UM, AS IT RELATES TO THE OUTREACH.
AND SO STARTING BACK IN 2022, STAFF WENT, UH, TO THE, TO THREE, UM, COMMITTEES AND COMMISSIONS, HCPC, THE HISTORIC CULTURAL PRESERVATION COMMITTEE, A NUMBER OF THE EXISTING CURRENT PARKLETS, UM, I BELIEVE 11 OF THE 14, UM, ARE WITHIN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
AND SO, UM, WE GOT SOME GOOD FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMITTEE, UH, THE PED BICYCLE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AS WELL AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, WHICH IS SUMMARIZED IN YOUR STAFF PACKET.
UH, WE ALSO DID A SURVEY, UM, THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY BULLETIN, UH, WALK DOOR TO DOOR DOWNTOWN, AS WELL AS SENT MAILING NOTICES, UM, TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
SO IN TOTAL, OVER A THOUSAND RESPONSES.
ATTACHMENT ONE GIVES YOU, UM, EACH OF THOSE
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QUESTIONS AS WELL AS ALL THE OPEN-ENDED QUES, OPEN-ENDED QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS, UM, IN THE PACKET, UM, ROUGHLY 40 BUSINESS OWNERS, UM, A LITTLE OVER A HUNDRED COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OWNERS.UM, AND THEN AN OVERWHELMING RESPONSE FROM OUR RESIDENTS.
POLICY ITEM NUMBER ONE, THIS QUESTION ABOUT PUBLIC VERSUS PRIVATE OR, AND OR QUASI USE 45%.
SO ALMOST HALF OF THE RESPONDENT SUPPORT A BLEND, PRIMARILY DEDICATED TO TABLE SERVICE WITH PUBLIC USE AS A SECONDARY FUNCTION.
UM, THIS IS IN ALIGNMENT WITH, UM, A NUM ALMOST ALL OF THE JURISDICTIONS THAT WE REACHED OUT TO, UM, THAT ARE ACTIVELY, UM, PROMOTING, UM, A PARKLET PROGRAM.
AND SO WHAT, THERE'S MUCH VALUE IN A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.
AND SO YOU HAVE A SPONSORING PARKLET APPLICANT, UM, BE IT A RESTAURANT OR, UM, A LOCAL MERCHANT WHO ESSENTIALLY, UM, PARTNERS UP WITH THE CITY IS RESPONSIBLE TO, UM, OPERATE, MAINTAIN THE SPACE, BUT ALSO, UM, PROVIDES THAT SPACE, UM, TO BE USED, UM, FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
AND SO, UM, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS HERE ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN THE, IN THE LIGHTER GREEN, UH, LOCATION.
UM, THE MAP ATTACHMENT TO GIVES YOU THE BID BOUNDARIES.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT STAFF IS, UH, RECOMMENDING, UM, AS AN OPTION FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER, UM, WHERE TO START.
UM, AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS, UH, WITH THE STRONG PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR DOWNTOWN ASSOCIATION, UM, AND JUST THE DEMAND THAT IS NATURALLY, UM, GRAVITATING TOWARDS THE BID, UM, THAT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT SORT OF HELPED INFORM STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, PUBLIC OPTIONS, UM, LONG BEFORE, UM, MANY OF US, UM, UH, EVEN KNEW ABOUT THE PARKLET PROGRAM, UM, THE CITY ITSELF, UM, DATING BACK, AS YOU KNOW, EARLY AS 1986, UH, WITH THEIR, UM, SORT OF REIMAGINING MASTER PLAN OF THE WATERFRONT.
THIS CONCEPT OF RE UM, EXPANDING PUBLIC USE PEDESTRIAN SPACE, UM, HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN DESIRED FROM NOT JUST CITY COUNCIL, UM, BUT THE COMMUNITY HERE.
UM, AND SO THERE IS A QUESTION ABOUT SHOULD THERE BE, UM, SPECIFIC, UM, PARKLETS THAT THE CITY MAY WANT TO SPONSOR, UM, AS AN OPPORTUNITY, UM, UM, AS A, UM, OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND SOME OF THE, UM, PUBLIC OFFERING DOWNTOWN.
ONE EXAMPLE THAT WAS VERY CLEARLY, UM, DELINEATED IN THE, UM, SURVEY WAS WATER STREET.
HOW DO WE EXPAND THE OPPORTUNITY? SO PEOPLE THAT ARE WALKING AND BIKING, UM, SPENDING THEIR MONEY DOWNTOWN, UM, AND BEING PART OF THE COMMUNITY, UM, CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF, UM, THE FRONTAGE THERE, UM, ALONG THE RIVER.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S A RECOMMENDATION AS WELL ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.
SO, UM, UM, PULLING, SETTING ASIDE, UM, THE PANDEMIC AND THE, THE NEED TO QUICKLY SUPPORT LOCAL BUSINESSES, UM, WHAT WE WOULD TYPICALLY DO, UM, UM, THAT COMES OUT OF THE, UM, PERMIT PROCESS, UH, FOR ANY CHANGES, UH, UM, ON PRIVATE PROPERTY WOULD BE TO GO THROUGH A SITE PLAN, ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW.
AND SO, UM, THAT IS WHAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING, UM, WHEN IT COMES TO THE PARKLETS THAT ARE IN, UM, NOT IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, BUT IN PRIVATE PROPERTY.
UM, THERE'S A PROCESS, LONGSTANDING PROCESS THAT WE HAVE, UM, THAT WE CAN HELP, UM, WALK THROUGH APPLICANTS THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
THE SURVEY WAS, AND THE BEST PRACTICES, WHEN WE LOOK AT DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS, THIS QUESTION ABOUT DENSITY IS, UM, IS PRETTY SPREAD OUT.
UM, ONE IN THREE, ESSENTIALLY ONE IN THREE OF OUR RESPONDENTS, UH, FEEL EVERY, UH, BUSINESS, UM, SHOULD BE ENTITLED TO THE ABILITY TO SUBMIT FOR A PARKLET.
UM, AND SO THAT'S WHERE YOU SEE ONE END OF THE SPECTRUM.
UM, AND THEN, UM, YOU SEE SOME CITIES, SANTA ROSA, HEALDSBURG, UM, WHERE THEY'RE METERING IT BASED ON SOME METRIC.
AND SO HEALDSBURG, AS AN EXAMPLE, UM, THEY HAVE, UM, A PARKING COUNT FOR DOWNTOWN.
AND SO THEY'VE LIMITED THE NUMBER OF PARKLETS TO ONE, UH, TO 5%.
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SO ONE OUT OF EVERY 20 SPACES, UM, IN THE CITY OF HEALDSBURG, UM, IS LIMITED TO USE FOR PARKLETS.UM, AND AGAIN, SO THIS, UM, THERE WASN'T A PLACE THAT, UM, THE COMMUNITY LANDED ON.
THERE ISN'T A PLACE THAT OUR, UM, JURISDICTIONS OR NEIGHBORING JURISDICTIONS LANDED ON.
UM, AND WHAT STAFF IS, UH, PROPOSING IS SOME COMBINATION OF, UM, WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN HEALDSBURG, WHE WHETHER IT'S TYING IT TO A NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES OR SOME OTHER METRIC.
UM, AND THEN ALSO ASKING, UM, COUNSEL TO WEIGH THE QUESTION ABOUT UNLIMITED DENSITY, THE, SO THE DESIGN.
SO THIS IS THE TOPIC THAT COMES UP MOST OFTEN, UM, WHEN WE'RE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND TALKING TO BUSINESS OWNERS AND, UM, COMMUNITY.
AND, UM, IT CAN BE SUMMARIZED INTO THESE FOUR CATEGORIES.
UM, HOW LONG IS IT? HOW WIDE IS IT, AND HOW TALL IS IT? AND SO THERE'S A DIMENSIONAL ASPECT TO THIS.
TYPICALLY, WE'RE LOOKING AT TWO PARALLEL, UM, PARKING SPACES, UM, AS YOUR TYPICAL, UM, STORE FRONTAGE, UM, AND YOUR TYPICAL PARKLET THAT YOU'RE SEEING.
AGAIN, THIS, UM, MAY NEED TO BE ADDRESSED, UM, ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.
UM, BUT IT DOES SEEM TYPICAL THAT, UM, NO MORE THAN TWO PARKING SPACES, UM, FRONT TO END, UM, IS SORT OF WHAT MANY OF THE JURISDICTIONS ARE GOING WITH, AND SOMETHING THAT WAS RESONATING WITH THE COMMUNITY, UM, LIGHTING.
SO MAKING SURE THAT IF IT'S A PUBLIC SPACE AFTER HOURS AFTER CLOSE OF BUSINESS, UM, IT'S A SAFE AND INVITING AND WELCOMING PLACE FOR PEOPLE, UM, AS WELL AS HAVING SOME UNIFORM SIGNAGE.
UM, SO MAKING SURE THAT IT'S REALLY CLEAR, UM, DEPENDING ON WHATEVER REGULATIONS, UM, THE CITY MOVES FORWARD WITH.
THE SIGNAGE IS VERY CLEAR, UM, ON THE USE AND THE, THE RULES, UM, THAT, UH, A MEMBER MUST ABIDE BY.
AND THEN THE QUESTION ABOUT, UM, THE VERTICAL ELEMENTS, UM, UMBRELLAS, SHADE STRUCTURES, TENT CANOPIES.
UM, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF JURIS JURISDICTIONS THAT, UM, IN THE AREA THAT HAVE MOVED FORWARD AND HAVE LIMITED AND RESTRICTED THE USE OF UMBRELLAS AND SHADE.
UM, IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY, UM, IN THE SURVEY IDENTIFIED AS IMPORTANT.
UM, AND SO AGAIN, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNCIL TO WEIGH IN, UM, ON THAT TOPIC AS WELL.
UM, SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS A MINISTERIAL REVIEW, UM, CONTINGENT ON, UM, OUR ABILITY TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL WITH A SET OF, UH, PRE-APPROVED DESIGNS.
AND SO ESSENTIALLY THINK ABOUT, UM, LIKE A PRE-APPROVED, UM, PARKLET IN A BOX.
SO YOU HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT OPTIONS, DESIGN OPTIONS, UM, THAT CONFORM WITH THE DESIGN GUIDELINES THAT ARE, UM, ADOPTED BY COUNCIL.
UM, AND SO LONG AS YOU HIT THE, THE, THE MARKS, UM, AS A POTENTIAL SPONSOR OF A PARKLET, UM, THAT WILL BE DONE MINISTERIAL REVIEW OVER THROUGH MINISTERIAL REVIEW.
UM, ANYTHING MORE INTENSIVE, UM, THAT WOULD BE MORE STAFF INTENSIVE, UM, MORE REVIEW, UM, WOULD REQUIRE AN ELEMENT OF NOTICING AND ENGAGEMENT.
UM, PERHAPS IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS NOT PRE-APPROVED, AND THERE'S SORT OF A ONE-OFF DESIGN.
UM, WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT, THAT GO THROUGH A SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS, AND THEN FEES, UM, ON THE MINIMAL END.
UH, FOR AN EXAMPLE, UH, THE CITY'S ENCROACHMENT FEES WOULD, WOULD SORT OF FIT IN THIS CATEGORY.
UM, IT, UM, IT ESSENTIALLY IS A TRANSACTIONAL OVER THE COUNTER, UM, OR SOME ENCROACHMENT PERMIT REVIEW.
UM, IS, UH, THAT WOULD FIT THE ZERO TO $500 RANGE WOULD BE, UM, SORT OF A LIGHTER TOUCH REVIEW.
UM, WHAT SAF IS PROPOSING HERE IS, UH, COST NEUTRAL, WHICH WE, UM, EXPECT TO BE IN THE RANGE OF ONE TO $2,000.
UM, THERE ARE OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT, UM, AND CREATED A LICENSE AND A USE FEE, UM, FEE SCHEDULE.
AND SO, UM, AS AN EXAMPLE, CITY OF HEALDSBURG CHARGES A, UM, PER SQUARE FOOT, UH, BASED ON THE, UM, SPACE OF THE PARKING SPACE ON TOP OF A ADMINISTRATIVE, I BELIEVE IT'S A $2,000 ADMINISTRATIVE FEE.
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AND THEN ALMOST AS MUCH AS WE GET QUESTIONS ABOUT DESIGN IS TRANSITION, WHAT DO WE DO WITH THE EXISTING PARKLETS? UM, AGAIN, 14 PARKLETS, UM, THAT ARE IN EXISTENCE, UH, WITH VARYING LEVELS OF DESIGN.UM, AND ONE OF THE KEY ELEMENTS MOVING FORWARD IS TO, UM, GET SOME DIRECTION ON, UM, WHAT TO DO, UM, WITH THOSE.
AND SO STAFF IS PROPOSING A SIX MONTH, UH, TRANSITION PERIOD FOR, UM, SAID, SPONSORING PARKLET, UM, APPLICANTS TO COME INTO CONFORMANCE, UM, WITH, UM, THE FUTURE, UM, GUIDELINES THAT THE CITY COMES UP WITH.
AND SO WE ARE ON THE CALENDAR, DEPENDING ON HOW THIS WORKSHOP GOES TO COME BACK, UM, WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE PROGRAM LATER THIS YEAR.
AND SO SIX MONTHS OUT WOULD ESSENTIALLY PUT THAT OUT TO SPRING OF NEXT YEAR, UM, THAT, UM, THAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND COUNCIL CONSIDER, UM, AS AN APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF TIME.
THIS IS WHAT SAN FRANCISCO, UM, ALSO DID WITH THEIR PARKLET PROGRAM.
AND WITH THAT, MAYOR, I WILL TURN IT BACK OVER TO YOU.
AND, UH, THANKS FOR GETTING US TO THIS PART.
I THINK THE COMMUNITY LOVES PARKLETS, I'D LOVES RULES.
I'D LIKE TO START WITH COUNCIL MEMBER ATE.
UH, BRIAN, UM, ONE, UM, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU DID THE SURVEY, YOU TALK ABOUT THAT MOST PEOPLE WANTED TO BE PRIMARILY TABLE SERVICE AND, BUT IN MANY OF THE EXAMPLES IN THE LA DOCUMENT THAT WAS IN THE, UH, IN THE STAFF REPORT, UH, IT SEEMED LIKE MOST CITIES WERE SAYING YOU COULD NOT HAVE TABLE SERVICE AS PART OF THESE.
SO I'M WONDERING IF YOU COULD MAKE SOME MORE COMMENTS ABOUT THAT AND WHETHER WHERE YOU ARE ON THAT.
UM, SO AGAIN, UM, IT'S PRETTY, IT'S PRETTY DIVERSE IN HOW, UM, JURISDICTIONS HAVE APPROACHED THIS IDEA OF PUBLIC VERSUS PRIVATE.
UM, AND SO I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH HOW THE CITY OF LOS ANGELES CURRENTLY DOES IT.
UM, UM, AND SO FROM MY RECOLLECTION, UM, THERE WAS A COMBINATION, UM, YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE, WHAT THE REQUIREMENT WAS, WAS THERE WAS A REQUIREMENT TO ACTIVATE THE SPACE.
SO WHETHER IT'S A LARGER SPACE, A PLAZA, UM, THAT BROUGHT IN A FARMER'S MARKET, UM, BUT THERE WERE A NUMBER OF THE PARKLETS, PARTICULARLY DOWNTOWN.
UM, NOW THAT MAY HAVE CHANGED SINCE THEN.
UM, BUT THERE ISN'T A CLEAR ANSWER.
UM, I THINK IT, IT, AND THEN EVEN IF YOU LOOK AT THE, ON ATTACHMENT FOUR, THE PARKLET, YOU KNOW, HOW TO GUIDE THAT UCLA HAD PUT OUT, UM, UM, IT ALWAYS, THERE'S THE CAVEAT OF, OF, UM, IT CAN WORK.
YOU CAN DO SOMETHING THAT'S QUASI-PUBLIC, UM, MIGHT NOT WANNA DO SOMETHING THAT'S FULLY PRIVATE AS ESSENTIALLY YOU'RE REPURPOSING PUBLIC SPACE FOR A, A PRIVATE USE, UM, MORE OR LESS.
UM, BUT ULTIMATELY IT COMES BACK AND THEY'RE ALWAYS QUICK TO REMIND THE READER THAT, UM, IT'S UP TO THE COMMUNITY, RIGHT? SO THERE'S GONNA BE THIS TAILORING, UM, AND THIS NEED TO ENGAGE WITH THE COMMUNITY ON WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE.
UM, AND SO THAT'S WHY, UM, WE'RE HERE TONIGHT.
IT, IT DOES SEEM TO ME LIKE, UH, THAT, I'M NOT SURE LOS ANGELES SAID THIS, BUT THAT PART OF THE ISSUE IS THAT PEOPLE HAVE A TENDENCY TO ASSUME IT'S PRIVATE IF THERE'S, IF THEY SEE PEOPLE BEING SERVED AT A TABLE, YOU KNOW? SO I WOULD JUST, UH, UM, CONSIDER THAT THE, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD IS, IS, YOU KNOW, IS, AND I DIDN'T SEE THIS MENTIONED ANYWHERE IN OUR REPORT OR ANYWHERE ELSE, WHETHER THERE YOU COULD VERY, AND, AND IT'D BE HARD.
IT SEEMED LIKE IT, IT'D BE HARD TO MAKE IT, UH, UM, SATISFYING TO EVERYONE INVOLVED.
BUT THAT IF YOU, IF THERE'S A MUCH BIGGER PUBLIC BENEFIT COMPONENT TO WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED THAT MAYBE THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT LEADS TO A DISCOUNT IN THE, UH, IN THE FEES, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE IN TOTALLY COST NEUTRAL.
AND, AND THEN LAST THING, UH, I WAS WONDERING ABOUT IF, YOU KNOW, I WAS, I GUESS ONE THING I HAD IN MIND WAS THAT WE WOULDN'T WANT TO MAKE THE DESIGN RESTRICTIONS SUCH THAT, UM, WHAT I HAD IN MIND WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE, THERE'S A COUPLE THAT ALREADY COULD, COULD MAYBE HAVE COME ABOUT THIS WAY, WHICH IS WITH THESE, UH, MINOR ART GRANTS THAT OUR PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE IS GIVEN, I THINK UP TO $20,000 OR SOMETHING TO YOUNG ARTISTS.
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REGULATION THAT COULD MAKE THAT HARDER TO DO IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO DO THAT? AND I'M NOT SAYING I DON'T WANNA MAKE IT HARD.THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I'M COMING FROM.
UH, COUNCILMAN, SO GREAT QUESTION.
I MEAN, ABSOLUTELY, WE DON'T WANNA MAKE IT HARDER, BUT WE ALSO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THERE'S CITY AND COMMUNITY BUY-IN TO WHATEVER ENDS UP, YOU KNOW, UM, GETTING BUILT.
UM, SO I THINK THERE'S A BALANCE OF WANTING TO STRIKE THE BALANCE OF, UH, CREATING SOME GUIDANCE.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE THE DESIGN GUIDELINES WILL COME INTO PLAY.
UM, BUT THEN ALSO NOT STIFLE IT SO MUCH THAT CREATIVE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S AN, A CREATIVE COMPONENT THAT COMES OUT.
UM, BECAUSE I, I DO THINK WHAT WE WOULD WANNA AVOID IS EVERY PARKLET LOOKING EXACTLY THE SAME.
I THINK THERE SHOULD PROBABLY BE A CERTAIN STYLE TO THEM, UM, ON TOP OF THE BASE LEVEL SAFETY CONSIDERATIONS.
UM, BUT I THINK WHAT WOULD MAKE IT INTERESTING AND WHAT WOULD DRAW MORE ATTENTION IS TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF VARIATION, ABSOLUTELY.
SO, UM, BRIAN, UM, KIND OF THE UNDERLYING PREMISE OF YOUR PRESENTATION, OR ELISA, IT'S HOW, HOW I TOOK IT, AND IT'S ALSO IN THE STAFF REPORT, ESPECIALLY ON PAGE SEVEN, IS THAT THERE'S, UM, A PERCEPTION THAT THERE'S A HUGE UNMET DEMAND FOR MORE PARKLETS IN TOWN.
AND I WAS WONDERING IF, IF THAT'S ACCURATE OR IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOUBLING OR TRIPLING THE NUMBER THAT WE HAVE NOW, OR IF THEY'RE JUST TWO OR THREE BUSINESSES THAT MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN THESE THINGS.
I WOULD SAY AT THIS POINT, THERE'S A HANDFUL OF MERCHANTS THAT, UM, ARE VERY CURIOUS WHEN THE APPLICATION WOULD OPEN.
UM, THAT SAID, WE HAVEN'T DONE A FULL, UM, FRONT, UM, CAMPAIGN TO SAY THAT WE HAVE A PROGRAM.
UM, BUT I WOULDN'T EXPECT, UM, A DOUBLING OR TRIPLING OF, UM, APPLICANTS.
AND, AND CAN YOU SHARE WHAT STREETS THE HANDFUL ARE ON? UM, SO WE GET, UM, WE GET IT FROM MERCHANTS ALONG WATER STREET, THE BOULEVARD NORTH, UM, KENTUCKY, UM, I'M GONNA JUST LOOK AT NANCY, MAYBE WESTERN, POTENTIALLY FOURTH STREET AND FOURTH STREET.
AND, UH, I'M SORRY, UM, UH, OVER BY THE FOUNDRY WHARF AREA COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLE.
UM, YOU MENTIONED THAT THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO START WITH THE BID BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE MORE ABOUT WHY IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE TO, UM, START WITH A SMALLER PHASED APPROACH? SO, THE GREAT QUESTION, THE BID IS ACTUALLY QUITE EXPANSIVE, I BELIEVE, WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT BOUNDARIES.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT HAS A FEW POSITIVES GOING FOR IT.
UM, FIRST THE DEMAND SEEMS TO, UM, BE FOCUSED, UM, WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES.
UM, IT TAKES A GOOD, ALMOST THE ENTIRE COMPONENT OF, UM, OF OUR SORT OF ECONOMIC, UM, STOREFRONTS THAT ARE DOWNTOWN.
UM, AND WE'RE JUST NOT SEEING, AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE TYPES OF BUSINESSES THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE BID, WHETHER IT'S ON THE EAST SIDE, SOME OF OUR LARGER COMMERCIAL CENTERS, UM, WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE STORE FRONTAGE, UM, RETAIL SPACE THAT, UM, THERE WOULD BE INTEREST.
AND SO AN EXAMPLE CAFE BELLINI, UM, THAT'S ON PRIVATE SPACE, UM, PRIVATE PROPERTY, UM, REPURPOSING OF PARK PARKING SPACES.
UM, AND SO ALL OF THE, ALL OF THOSE, UM, SORT OF FIGURED INTO, UM, WHY WE'RE PRESENTING ON THE, THE BID BOUNDARY, UH, VICE MAYOR.
YOU, YOU, UM, ASKING FOR SEEMS LIKE A, A LOT OF TOPICS FOR FEEDBACK, RIGHT? SO I HAVE A LONG LIST FOR YOU.
UM, FIRST ONE IS, UM, THERE'S A SLIDE DECK I THINK THAT, UH, COUNCILMAN
UM, BUT THERE IS A, A HU A A BEAUTIFUL DOCUMENT WHAT LA IS DOING AND OTHER CITIES ARE DOING.
AND THAT, UM, THAT THAT'S SORT OF LIKE A GUIDEBOOK THAT WAS PRESENT IN, IN, IN THAT, IN THE AGENDA.
I THINK EVERYONE THAT'S INTERESTED IN PARKLANDS NEEDS TO LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE IMAGINATION NOW THAT WE CAN HAVE IF PEOPLE KNEW WHAT WAS POSSIBLE.
SO WE REALLY NEED TO OPEN UP FOR IMAGINATION RATHER THAN RESTRICTING ON WHAT WE'VE ALREADY HAVE, UH, BECAUSE I THINK WHAT WE HAVE IS A RESPONSE OF COVID AND PEOPLE
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REALLY HAVEN'T OPENED UP FOR THE REAL POSSIBILITY FOR REALLY, UM, MORE.SO I THINK, UH, WE'RE ON QUESTIONS IN THIS PERIOD.
I THOUGHT WE WERE ON FEEDBACK.
QUESTIONS, UH, LET'S SEE IF I CAN FIND AN ACTUAL QUESTION IN HERE.
UM, COULD WE EXPAND BESIDES JUST, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT MOSTLY, UH, THE DOWNTOWN, AND YOU'VE PROBABLY LOOKED AT SHA CENTERS.
ARE WE CONSIDERED BEYOND THAT RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND PRIVATE BUSINESSES OUTSIDE OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA? CAN WE EXPAND OUT TO THE ENTIRE CITY? IT'S ABSOLUTELY IN THE PURVIEW OF COUNSEL, UM, TO SET THOSE BOUNDARIES.
UM, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S THE DEMAND.
UM, AND I WANT TO THINK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HOW THE UTILITY OF PUBLIC, UM, PARKING SPACES THAT FRONT, UM, OTHER PARTS OF OUR TOWN COULD BE USED.
UM, THAT SAID, UM, THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY, LIKE YOU SAID, TO REIMAGINE IT.
AND WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS A THREE-YEAR PILOT.
AND SO, UM, IF IT'S THE DESIRE OF THE MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL TO, UM, GO BEYOND, UM, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, WE CAN SURELY ACCOMMODATE.
UM, YEAH, IT, UH, WE HAVE SOME, UH, WE'VE DONE SO MUCH ON, UM, CITIZEN OUTREACH FOR OTHER PROJECTS AND THE LIKE.
AND IF WE DECIDED TO REALLY OPEN THIS UP, DO YOU REALLY THINK WE COULD DO A LOT MORE IMAGINATION, UM, OPENING IT UP AND GIVING PEOPLE, LIKE, LIKE THAT DOCUMENT, LET THEM SEE SOME POSSIBILITIES BETWEEN EXERCISE PLACES FOR SENIORS, BICYCLE PARKING, UH, RECREATIONAL, AS WELL AS FOOD, UH, SHOPPING, WHATEVER ITEMS COULD BE PUT OUT ONCE IN A WHILE, STOREFRONTS, WE DIDN'T.
SO IF WE REALLY PUT IT OUT THERE TO THE PUBLIC, DO YOU THINK WE WOULD GET A MUCH LARGER RESPONSE THAN WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE BECAUSE OF WHAT WE JUST RESPONDING TO COVID, UH, BY DOING MORE OUTREACH? I, I DO BELIEVE THERE'S A TON OF INTEREST, UM, AROUND THIS TOPIC.
SO I WOULD EXPECT, UH, A HIGHER AND MORE ROBUST RESPONSE.
UM, THAT SAID, IT DOES FEEL LIKE MUCH OF THE ENERGY IS FOCUSED ON DOWNTOWN.
UM, BUT AGAIN, THAT, THAT SAID, UM, IF THERE'S INTEREST IN LOOKING AT OTHER PARTS, UM, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF COUNCILMAN, UM, YOU CAN GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF, UM, WHAT YOU'RE ENVISIONING AND WOULD BE HAPPY TO TRY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
UM, 'CAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO 15 MINUTE NEIGHBORHOODS, THERE MIGHT BE EVEN RESIDENCES THAT COULD HAVE A PARKLET UP FRONT TAKE UP.
IT'S A STREET THAT'S NOT ALL THE PARKING'S NOT BEING USED.
THEY COULD PUT OUT EITHER A AREA THERE, THEY COULD EVEN PUT OUT THEIR OWN LITTLE TINY RESTAURANT RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE.
THEY COULD PUT OUT THEIR PRIVATE OR COME FIX IT.
I'LL COME FIX YOUR, WHATEVER, YOUR VACUUM CLEANER, WHATEVER LITTLE PARKLET FOR SET UP FOR A DAY OR TWO.
WE COULD HAVE, UM, LITTLE SOCIAL GATHERINGS, NEIGHBORHOOD GATHERINGS IN PARKLETS, UM, ALL SORTS OF THINGS THAT WAS PRESENTED IN THE SLIDESHOW COULD BE DONE.
UM, SOMETHING MORE OUTTA THE BOX.
WHAT IF WE ACTUALLY OPENED IT UP TO OPPORTUNITY, UM, THAT FOLKS MAY BE MORE, MORE GRAVITATED TO, OH, I CAN DO THAT.
AND THEN THEY SAY, OH, OKAY, THEN, THEN IT'S, THEN WE HAVE MORE OPPORTUNITY.
I MEAN, ULTIMATELY WHERE I WOULD WANT TO SEE THE FREE RANGE PROGRAM GO WOULD BE ALL INCLUSIVE.
AND SO WHEN I THINK ABOUT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS BLOCK PARTIES, I MEAN, I MEAN, IT SORT OF, I THINK THE POSSIBILITIES ARE ENDLESS, UM, PLAZAS, UM, I MEAN, JUST THE GENERAL CONCEPT OF REPURPOSING, UM, OUR PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY TO BE MORE THAN THAT.
I MEAN, I THINK WE, WE WOULD BE ALL FOR IT.
UM, IT WOULD JUST TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE THINKING, SOME MORE OUTREACH, CERTAINLY, UM, UH, WITH THE COMMUNITY AND FRAME IT IN THAT WAY.
AND THEN WE, WE WALK THROUGH A MALLS COMPLETELY ENCLOSED, AND THERE'S WHAT USED TO BE JUST BIG OPEN AISLES IN THE MIDDLE, AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE'S A BUNCH OF KIOSKS GOING DOWN, WALKING MALLS.
CAN WE DO THE SAME THING IN ALL OF OUR SHOPPING CENTERS? AND SO THAT THERE'D BE LANE OF PARKING, BUT THERE MIGHT BE SMALL LITTLE SHOPS SET UP LIKE PARKLETS IN EVERY SHOPPING CENTER THAT WE HAVE AND USE UP SOME OF THAT PARKING SPACES.
COULD YOU SEE SOME OF THAT WITH THE, WHICH COULD WE ENHANCE OUR BUSINESS ECONOMICS, MORE BUSINESSES DOING THAT? SO 20, 24, 25 IS, IS THE YEAR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
UM, SO WE ARE, UH, FULLY COMMITTED TO THIS CONCEPT.
UM, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE GETTING AT IS THE USE OF PRIVATE, UM, PARKING SPACES IN SOME OF OUR LARGER SHOPPING CENTERS.
SO I'M THINKING THE DEER CREEKS, THE, UM, UH, WASHINGTON SQUARES, UM, THAT, UM, AND I APOLOGIZE IF I GLOSS OVER THAT, UM, THAT THERE IS A PROCESS FOR THAT.
SO IF A BUSINESS WANTS TO COME IN AND REPURPOSE,
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UM, IT DOES TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE THOUGHT AND, UM, CONSIDERATION.UM, BECAUSE MUCH OF MANY OF THOSE BUILDINGS WERE, OR PROJECTS HAVE BEEN APPROVED BASED ON, UH, PARKING COUNT, SO A NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES.
UM, AND SO WE WOULD JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UM, ANY CHANGES, UM, WOULDN'T, UM, IMPACT, UH, THE BUSINESS.
UM, BUT AGAIN, THAT, THAT'S A STRATEGY THAT WE CAN LOOK AT SORT OF, UM, HOW DO WE REPURPOSE PRIVATELY, UM, OWNED, UM, PARKING SPACES AS AN ECONOMIC, UM, ENGINE.
AND THEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT MINISTERIAL, UM, VERSUS BRINGING IT TO COUNCIL THAT WAS BROUGHT UP.
AND, UM, AND THEN IF WE PUT IN DESIGN REQUIREMENTS FOR SIZE, SHAPE, AND THE LIKE, BUT ALSO FOR ART.
SO AT, UM, WOULD YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE? WOULD STAFF FEEL COMFORTABLE IF PEOPLE, IF WE SET THE DESIGNS AND AND LIMITATIONS AT CERTAIN LEVELS, THAT STAFF WOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE, OKAY, THAT'S ALREADY ENOUGH, THAT'S DIFFERENT ENOUGH THAT YES, IT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE.
AND THEN SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO KEEP THE COUNCIL COMPLETELY BOMBARDED WITH A THOUSAND DIFFERENT OPTIONS HERE, BUT, UH, THAT THE STAFF, YOU FEEL THAT YOU COULD ACTUALLY SAY, OKAY, WE CAN, KNOWING THE, THE GENERAL TREND, THE STAFF READY TO SAY, OKAY, GO AND NOT HAVE TO, UH, BRING IT TO COUNCIL.
UM, WONDERFUL PRESENTATIONS, UH, STAFF AND YOUR, UM, PHOTOS OF OTHER COMMUNITIES.
AND WHAT THEY HAVE IS WONDERFUL TOO.
I'M ALWAYS CONCERNED WHEN THERE IS, UM, BLOCKING OF THE WALKWAY ON THE SIDEWALK.
SO I LOVE THE LITTLE BISTRO TABLES AND LITTLE CHAIRS BECAUSE YOU CAN GRAB A MEAL AND THEN GO SIT OUTSIDE AND EAT INSTEAD OF INSIDE YOUR CAR.
THE QUESTION I HAVE IS, DO WE CHARGE THOSE LITTLE BISTRO RESTAURANTS AS WE DO, IF THEY TAKE UP, UH, LIKE ME, PUEBLO HAS LIKE FOUR PARKING SPACES AND A HUGE, A HUGE, UM, YOU KNOW, WALLS, I THINK THERE'S FOUR, THREE WALLS, BUT THEY ALSO ENCOURAGE ON OUR SIDEWALK, AND THEY BLOCK PARTS OF OUR WALKWAY ON A, IN FRONT OF THEIR STOREFRONT IN FRONT OF THEIR RESTAURANT, AND THEY ALSO TAKE UP THE PARKING PLACES FOR THE RETAIL ESTABLISHMENTS.
SO HOW DO WE CHARGE PER, DO WE PAR CHARGE PER PARKING SPACE? DO WE CHARGE FOR IF THEY PUT TABLES AND CHAIRS OUT FRONT, UM, OR A BENCH FOR THEIR PATRONS TO WAIT WHILE THERE'S A TABLE INSIDE? UM, ALSO, UM, IT ALSO MATTERS TO ME HOW MANY DAYS A WEEK THEY'RE OPEN.
LIKE SOME OF OUR RESTAURANTS HAVE A PARKLET TAKING IT FOR PARKING SPACES, OR AT LEAST TWO, AND THEY'RE ONLY OPEN FOUR DAYS A WEEK ON PIMA BOULEVARD.
AND THEY'RE NOT EVEN, UM, UPGRADING OUR, OR ADDING TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN PETALUMA.
THEY'RE JUST THOSE ORANGE UGLY THAT SAY, CITY OF PETALUMA PROPERTY ON THIS SIDE.
UM, THE ART PIECES AT LEAST ARE ATTRACTIVE.
SO DO WE CHARGE DIFFERENTLY IF THEY HAVE AN ATTRACTIVE, SO THERE'S MY QUESTIONS, HOW DO WE CHARGE AND HOW DO WE EXPLAIN TO THE COMMUNITY THAT THESE, UM, RESTAURANTS ARE PAYING THEIR, THEIR SHARE OF 'CAUSE THEY'RE EXPANDING THEIR RESTAURANT FOOTPRINT? GREAT QUESTION.
SO, UM, AGAIN, TIME AND PLACE, UH, DURING COVID, I, I, YOU KNOW, THE, THE OBJECTIVE WAS HOW DO WE QUICKLY, AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE, SUPPORT OUR LOCAL MERCHANTS? AND SO THE QUESTION ABOUT FEES, UM, YOU KNOW, IT, IT WAS, IT WASN'T THE PRIORITY, RIGHT? I THINK THE IDEA WAS LET'S GET SOMETHING UP AND RUNNING SO OUR BUSINESSES DON'T SHUT DOWN.
AND WE'VE HEARD ANECDOTALLY FROM A NUMBER OF OUR MERCHANTS THAT THIS, YOU KNOW, LARGELY SAVED SOME OF THE BUSINESSES, UM, UM, OVER THE PAST HANDFUL OF YEARS.
UM, AND, AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE DO WANT TO COME UP WITH THAT SET OF DESIGN GUIDELINES SO THAT THERE ISN'T THE VARIATION FROM THE, UM, SAFETY KRAS, THE ORANGE, UM, UM, UH, SAFETY BALLARDS, UM, UH, THAT ARE VERY MUCH TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION, SORT OF SERVES, UM, UH, A, A DIFFERENT PURPOSE, UM, TO SOMETHING THAT YOU SAW A LOT OF INPUT, A LOT MORE MONEY INVESTED.
UM, WHEN WE THINK ABOUT LIKE A ME PUEBLO, UM, OR THE PARKLET THAT'S IN FRONT OF ME PUEBLO, UM, A LOT MORE TIME, A LOT MORE, UM, MONEY SPENT TO COME
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UP WITH THAT.UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE EVER NAILED DOWN EXACTLY HOW MUCH WAS SPENT, 'CAUSE I THINK THERE WAS A LOT OF SWEAT EQUITY THAT WENT INTO CREATING THE ME PUEBLO PARK PARKLET.
UM, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER, UM, THAT'S ANOTHER CONSIDERATION THAT WE HAVE IS, UM, WE, WE DON'T WANNA MAKE IT SO EXPENSIVE, SO ONEROUS THAT, UM, IT'S NOT WORTH IT FOR A SPONSOR TO COME IN DURING THIS THREE YEAR PILOT PROGRAM.
SO THE QUESTION ABOUT FEES, AND THEN I'LL, UM, UM, ADDRESS THE, UM, SIDEWALK DINING FIRST.
UM, THERE'S A SEPARATE PROGRAM CALLED OUR SIDEWALK DINING PERMIT.
UM, AND SO IT'S AN ENCROACHMENT PERMIT.
IT GOES THROUGH PUBLIC WORKS, UM, AND IT'S RELATIVELY MINIMAL, THE FEE.
UM, AND THAT WAS A PROGRAM THAT STOOD ON IT IN AND OF ITSELF BEFORE, UM, THE PANDEMIC.
UM, AND SO AT THIS POINT WE'VE, UM, I THINK WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WHEN PEOPLE, NEW MERCHANTS ARE ASKING ABOUT, HEY, I, I'D LOVE TO GET SIDEWALK DINING PERMIT, UM, WE'RE SORT OF, UM, HELPING, WE'RE, WE'RE BASICALLY, UM, COMBINING THIS EFFORT WITH, WITH THE SIDEWALK DINING PERMIT PROGRAM.
UM, AND SO THERE'S A SEPARATE FEE STRUCTURE.
THE QUESTION ABOUT, UM, HOW DO WE INFORM THE PUBLIC? IT'S, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE COME UP WITH A SOLUTION AND A PROGRAM, IT'S JUST ABOUT, UM, ADVERTISING AND MAKING THE, THE COMMUNITY AWARE THAT, HEY, DID YOU KNOW THAT, UM, A LOCAL MERCHANT IS ABLE TO, UM, PULL A PERMIT WITH THE CITY TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, TWO OR THREE, UM, CAFE STYLE, I'M THINKING IN FRONT OF THE COFFEE SHOP, UM, LITTLE, YOU KNOW, BISTRO TABLES.
UM, AND THAT'S FOR THE USE OF THE PRIVATE ENTITY THERE.
UM, AND SO PARKLETS ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
UM, AGAIN, WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THERE'S A PUBLIC COMPONENT TO IT, AND I DO THINK IT WOULD ADDRESS THE INITIAL QUESTION YOU HAD ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN, UM, THE BUSINESS IS CLOSED ON OFF HOURS AND THERE'S, THERE'S NOBODY IN THE PARKLET.
UM, AND SO THAT'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, OUR STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF, UM, REQUIRING SOME PUBLIC ELEMENT SO THAT EVEN IF DELLA ISN'T OPEN AND SERVING, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE IS STILL A PUBLIC VALUE THAT WE'RE GETTING BY LOSING THOSE PARKING SPACES, UM, BY CREATING THAT SPACE.
UM, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY WE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, UM, THAT'S THE INTENT OF THIS, RIGHT? WHEN WE GO THROUGH THOSE GOALS IS THERE'S AN ECONOMIC COMPONENT, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE IT BEAUTIFUL, RIGHT? WE WANNA BEAUTIFY DOWNTOWN.
UM, AND WE ALSO WANNA, UM, YOU KNOW, CREATE PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO GATHER.
I MEAN, IF YOU THINK ABOUT WHEN YOU COME DOWNTOWN NOW, UM, MYSELF, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A CERTAIN BUDGET THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE IN MIND, UM,
UM, AND SO THERE'S NOT MANY PLACES, UM, OUTSIDE OF PUTNAM PLAZA, OUTSIDE OF, UH, A SLIVER IN FRONT OF, YOU KNOW, ALONG WATER STREET.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE MANY OF THOSE PUBLIC PLACES.
AND SO THIS, AGAIN, IS, IS SORT OF THIS LOWER THRESHOLD OPPORTUNITY TO BRING MORE OF THAT ACTIVATION, UM, THAT HAS A CO-BENEFIT, UM, YOU KNOW, TO OUR LOCAL MERCHANTS.
THE, UM, QUESTIONNAIRES WERE GREAT AND THANK YOU FOR REACHING OUT TO THE STAKEHOLDERS.
UM, AND WHEN WE GET TO THE, TO THE, UM, FEE STRUCTURE, I'M, I'M REALLY LOOKING FOR A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT, UM, OF COURSE WE HAVE CHARGED IN THE PAST, WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES CHARGE AND WHAT THE STAKEHOLDERS ARE WILLING TO CHARGE OR BE CHARGED.
AND WE CAN DECIDE, OR I CAN AT LEAST DECIDE FROM THERE.
UM, SO, UH, THIS IS ALL ABOUT THE PUBLIC, UH, RIGHT OF WAY.
AND, UM, THERE'S SO MUCH OF THINGS THAT ARE IN THE PRIVATE RIGHT OF WAY.
ARE WE NEEDING, UM, TO ENHANCE OUR GUIDELINES ON THE PRIVATE SIDE? AND WHEN, WHEN WAS THAT ENVISIONED? IT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE A CASE BY CASE BASIS.
UM, AGAIN, MANY OF THE PROJECTS WERE APPROVED FOR A CERTAIN USE IN MIND.
UM, AND SO THAT'S WHERE THE SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMES IN.
SO WE DO HAVE A, A SORT OF MINOR VERSION OF THAT, UM, THAT CAN BE DONE ADMINISTRATIVELY, APPROVED BY, UM, BY ME.
UM, AND SO WE WOULD WANT TO TAKE THOSE AS OUTTA CASE.
YEAH, I HEAR CASE, I HEAR YOU SAYING IT'S, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW AT ONE OF THE SHOPPING CENTERS.
IT'S ALL UP TO THE SHOPPING CENTER TO COME IN AND APPEAL.
AND, AND THAT'S PART OF OUR DESIGN PROCESS CURRENTLY, RIGHT? CORRECT.
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WOULD THERE BE NO NEED TO FURTHER CODIFY THINGS? I MEAN, UH, YOU KNOW, UM, I THINK YOU MENTIONED BELLINI WAS A GREAT REPURPOSED USE.UM, IS THAT A TRICKY PERMIT TO GET? DO WE, DO WE, IF WE WANT TO INCENTIVIZE MORE OF THE WHOLE OUTDOOR DINING FEEL, DO WE NEED TO GO BACK IN AND CHANGE ANYTHING? IS A BUILDING PERMIT I'M GONNA ASK YOU, IS BUILDING PERMIT HARD TO GET FOR THE STREET STUFF? SO FIRST I WANNA ASK YOU IF IT'S HARD TO GET FOR PRIVATE, ARE THOSE, YOU KNOW, AMBROSIA SET UP ON NORTH BOULEVARD? MM-HMM.
UM, AND, AND, UH, UNFORTUNATELY THAT DIDN'T, UH, HELP THEM ENOUGH.
UM, BUT, UM, PRIVATE PROPERTY PERMITS, ARE THEY DIFFICULT TO GET? UM, I, I DON'T THINK SO.
UM, I MEAN, THAT SAID, THERE'S A, THERE'S A PROCESS WE HAVE, UM, THAT'S PER OUR CODE, OUR, UM, ZONING CODE.
UM, SO IT'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE SITE PLAN, ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW.
UM, WE HAVE A PROCESS, WE HAVE A FEE STRUCTURE SET IN PLACE, UM, THAT RUNS, UM, UH, BASE, UH, BASE FEE IS $2,500 PLUS STAFF TIME.
AND SO, UM, WE'VE DONE A NUMBER OF THEM, UM, IN THIS PAST YEAR.
UM, AND THERE'S CURRENTLY, UM, A HANDFUL ALSO GOING THROUGH A REVIEW PROCESS TOO.
AND THERE'S NO CHANGES THAT WE ARE NEEDING AT THIS TIME.
AND THEN ON THE PUBLIC, UH, RIGHT OF WAY SIDE, UM, SAME THING WITH THE BUILDING PERMITS BEING DIFFICULT, IF WE, IS IT POSSIBLE TO SET UP THE, THE MATERIAL TYPE, UH, YOU KNOW, UM, AND MINIMUM STANDARDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, PLANNING DEALS, PLANNING AND BUILDING DEAL WITH MINIMUM STANDARDS FOR THINGS.
IS, IS IT POSSIBLE TO SET UP A MINIMUM STANDARD SO WE CAN MAKE SURE IT ALL STAYS AT YOUR LEVEL? UH, WITH CLARITY? I MEAN, UH, UH, AN AESTHETIC, MINIMUM STANDARD AS WELL AS A BUILDING TYPE.
UM, OBVIOUSLY THE, THE SIZE AND LENGTH AND HEIGHT WAS, WAS PRETTY EASY, BUT THE REST OF IT, MATERIAL AND AESTHETIC IS HARDER.
UH, WE DO HAVE A SAFETY, UM, ESSENTIALLY IT'S A SAFETY DOCUMENT, UM, THAT WE, UH, WOULD HELP THAT IT WOULD INFORM THE PROGRAM.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, AND I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF, UM, MAKING SURE THAT ON THE APPROACH, SO LET'S SAY YOU'RE COMING IN, UM, ON KENTUCKY, THERE'S THE PARKLET, UM, IN FRONT OF ME, PUEBLO, UM, ENSURING THERE'S, UH, WHEEL STOPS, 48 INCH IN LENGTH, UM, ON THE APPROACH AS WELL AS, UM, HAVING SOME SORT OF, UH, PROTECTIVE, UM, BARRIER.
AND SO THERE'S SOME METRICS THAT OUR ENGINEERING TEAM, UM, HAS ALREADY PUT SOME, PUT MUCH THOUGHT INTO.
'CAUSE WE HAD TO DO IT, UM, DURING THE PANDEMIC.
AND SO WE SPENT SOME TIME EARLIER THIS YEAR.
UM, NOT CODIFYING THAT, BUT JUST REAFFIRMING THAT WHAT WORKED FROM A SAFETY PERSPECTIVE BACK IN 2020, UM, IS STILL APPLICABLE HERE.
AND SO THAT'S GONNA MAKE FOR A MUCH MORE SMOOTHER, UM, PERMIT PROCESS.
UM, IF WE REMOVE PARKING, IS IT POSSIBLE TO CONNECT UP WITH THAT? LIKE A ONE QUARTER, ONE FIFTH OF EVERY SPOT REMOVED IS, IS INSTALLED AS BIKE PARKING? IS THERE A NEXUS WE CAN MAKE TO PUT THAT IN THIS THING? 'CAUSE IF WE GET MORE PEOPLE DOWNTOWN, THEY'RE GONNA WANT TO COME ON THEIR BIKE AND THERE ISN'T, YOU DON'T WANT 'EM PUTTING 'EM IN THE D TABLES.
AND SO WE NEED YES, ABSOLUTELY.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD WANT TO, UM, COORDINATE WITH OUR PUBLIC WORKS COUNTERPARTS BECAUSE THERE IS SORT OF A PARALLEL, UM, TRACK OF IDENTIFYING APPROPRIATE PLACES, UM, NOT JUST IN DOWNTOWN, BUT THROUGHOUT OUR CITY FOR, UH, BIKE RACKS.
AND SO I WOULD, I WOULD ASSUME, OR I WOULD WANT TO LOOK AT THIS PROGRAM, UM, OFFERING, UM, THE APPROPRIATE SAFETY, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE APPROPRIATE NUMBER OF BIKE RACKS.
UM, BUT I DON'T WANNA DO THAT IN A VACUUM WITHOUT PUBLIC WORKS.
SO IF, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY THEY HAVE A PLAN FOR THREE BIKE RACKS ALONG KENTUCKY, THEN THIS IS THE KIND OF CREEP THAT WE'RE THE
YOU KNOW, IF, IF HE COMES IN AND SAYS, I WANNA BUILD A THING, AND HE SAY, WELL, I GOTTA CHECK WITH PUBLIC WORKS, THEN IT'S NOT AS ADMINISTRATIVELY EASY FOR, FOR YOU TO APPROVE.
UM, BUT I GET, I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I, I'D LIKE TO FIND A SMOOTH PATHWAY THROUGH THAT.
UM, AND THEN MY KEY QUESTIONS ON, UH, CLEARANCES, UH, UH, TABLES ON SIDEWALKS, WE CAN PROBABLY COME UP WITH A, UH, A CLEARANCE, REQUIRING CLEARANCE MINIMUM.
AND, AND, UH, THERE'S, THERE ARE SOME THAT WE FEEL ALREADY ARE VERY CLUTTERED WHEN YOU WALK THROUGH IT.
IT'S LIKE YOU'RE WALKING THROUGH THE RESTAURANT WHERE, UH, ON THE SIDEWALK, WHICH I WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF.
AND, UH, AND, UH, IT DOESN'T APPLY QUITE AS MUCH TO PARKING THE CLEARANCE IF YOU REMOVE PARKING.
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IT ISN'T A CLEARANCE QUESTION, BUT, BUT WHEREAS A SIDEWALK IS, UM, I WONDER ABOUT OTHER PUBLIC SPACES LIKE, UM, PUTNAM PLAZA RIGHT NOW.IS IT A DIFFERENT USE OF THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY BEING A PARK VERSUS BEING A SIDEWALK? ARE YOU GONNA DIFFERENTIATE IN THE ORDINANCE? CAN YOU DIFFERENTIATE IN THE ORDINANCE FOR MORE SENSITIVE AREAS? UH, WE, YOU CAN AND YOU PROBABLY SHOULD.
AND SO, UM, TO ANSWER YOUR FIRST, THE FIRST PART OF YOUR QUESTION, UM, WE, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S ESSENTIALLY BY CODE.
AND SO, UM, FOLLOWING THE A DA, UM, COMPLIANCE WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, ENSURING THAT THERE'S A SMOOTH, UM, APPROACH FROM SIDEWALK, UM, INTO THE PARKLET.
AND SO, UM, AND THEN MAKING SURE THAT THE GRADING, UM, IS, IS LEVEL.
UM, AND SO THERE'S SOME PARTS THAT ARE OFTEN USED.
UM, AND SO ALL THE, THE, UM, ACCESSIBILITY REQUIREMENTS, UM, WE HAVE THAT ALL, UM, DIALED IN WITH THE TECHNICAL DESIGN, UM, STANDARDS.
UM, AND SO THOSE WOULD BE, UM, A BARE MINIMUM, UM, WHEN IT COMES TO THE PARKLETS.
UM, AND THEN YOU HAD THE SECOND QUESTION, SECOND PART OF THE QUESTION, MAYOR, I APOLOGIZE.
WOULD YOU MIND REPEATING? I JUST THINK THE PUBLIC UTILIZATION OF A PARK IS DIFFERENT THAN THE PUBLIC UTILIZATION OF A, A SIDEWALK AND, AND WHO'S COMPETING INTEREST IS REALLY BEING FILLED.
UM, THANK YOU FOR REPEATING THAT.
UM, SO WE DO RECOMMEND THAT WE TAKE, UM, I MEAN BECAUSE OF ITS UNIQUENESS AND THERE'S ALREADY AN ONGOING PROCESS, UM, IN COORDINATION WITH OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS.
UH, PUTNAM PLAZA IS SORT OF A, A SEPARATE, UM, PROJECT.
UM, BUT I THINK WE CAN LEARN FROM SOME OF, UM, SOME OF THE LESSONS LEARNED FROM FREE RANGE AND APPLY IT TO, UM, YOU KNOW, SORT OF THE, UM, NEXT ITERATION OF, UM, PUTNAM PLAZA.
UM, 'CAUSE I DO BELIEVE THAT TECHNICALLY IT IS A, A PARK, UM, A CITY PARK.
UM, THE OTHER ONE THAT COMES TO MIND THAT I THINK WILL, WOULD WARRANT, UM, A MUCH MORE FOCUSED, UM, DISCUSSION AND ENGAGEMENT WOULD BE AROUND WATER STREET.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, CURRENTLY WE DO HAVE TWO MERCHANTS THAT, UM, UH, IT, IT'S ESSENTIALLY SEASONAL, RIGHT? SO WHEN THE WET WEATHER COMES UP, UM, WE HAVE THE TENTS AND SO THERE'S CUCINA, THERE'S RE CBC, UM, BUT I DO THINK THERE'S A LARGER DESIRE.
UM, AND SOME OF THAT IS, UM, TAKING OVER PARKING SPACES.
SOME OF THAT IS JUST ENCROACHING IN PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
UM, I DO THINK THERE SHOULD BE A MUCH MORE MEASURED DISCUSSION, UM, ABOUT WHAT TO DO WITH WATER STREET AS A WHOLE.
UM, AND ALSO SORT OF TIES NICELY INTO THE TRUSTFUL CONVERSATION AS WELL.
UM, AND SO FOR THOSE REASONS, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE SORT, SORT OF SEPARATE.
UM, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING AS PART OF THIS THREE YEAR PILOT PARKLET PROGRAM IS MUCH MORE FOCUSED ON THE REPURPOSING OF, UM, PARKING SPACES, UM, INTO PUBLIC.
AND THAT KIND OF LENDS TO THE NEXT QUESTION, WHICH IS ABOUT SORT OF MORE, UH, POPUP, UH, NATURE OF THINGS.
UH, I NOTICED THAT IN FRONT OF THE LIBRARY, THE, OR THE, UH, MUSEUM, THERE'S BEEN, UM, KIND OF A POPUP USED TO HAVE IT TABLED OFF FOR A WHILE OR IN FRONT OF LIVE EXPLORE.
AND, AND SO WILL YOU HAVE A SUB-CHAPTER THAT ALLOWS FOR A, I GUESS IT'S A STREET ENCROACHMENT PERMIT, AND WOULD THAT NEED TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS? OR WOULD YOU ALLOW ANY KIND OF USE IF THEY GOT A, AND CAN YOU GET A ENCROACHMENT PERMIT TO CLOSE OFF PARKING SPACES IN FRONT OF YOUR BUSINESS? I'M LOOKING OVER AT PUBLIC WORKS, I DO BELIEVE.
SO THEN LET ME, LET ME REPHRASE THE QUESTION.
CAN YOU PUT SOMETHING IN HERE THAT ALLOWS FOR POPUP, UH, UTILIZATION FOR WE WILL, YES.
WE CAN WORK WITH, UM, OUR PUBLIC WORKS COLLEAGUES TO, UM, EXPLORE THAT BECAUSE AGAIN, THAT, THAT STREAMLINING A PERMIT THING, IF WE ASK PUBLIC WORKS, THEY HAVE TO CHECK EVERY RULE THAT WAS EVER WRITTEN ABOUT STREET UTILIZATION.
IF THOSE ARE SEASONAL TENTS, CAN, UH, CAN THE PERMITTING PROCESS SAY YOU NEED THESE DURING, I GUESS WE, UH, WARM WEATHER OR I DON'T, BECAUSE IN WARM WEATHER, PEOPLE WILL SHOW ON FOOT AND IN WET WEATHER THEY MIGHT WANNA SHOW IN THEIR CAR AND BE CLOSER TO THE, CAN YOU ALLOW THAT VARIABILITY IN HOW A PERMITEE ASKS REQUIRE? SO, SO THEY KNOW THEY CAN ASK THAT QUESTION.
YEAH, I THINK WE CAN, AND WE WILL.
I MEAN, ULTIMATELY WE WANT THIS PROGRAM TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
AND SO IF A MERCHANT, UM, OR UH, PARKLET SPONSOR WANTS TO TEST IT OUT FOR
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THE SPRING AND SUMMER MONTHS, UM, THEY MAY ELECT, YOU KNOW, WE'LL WANT TO, UM, I THINK WE WOULD WANNA ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN.THAT SAID, THERE IS A, THERE'S GOING TO BE A COST, YOU KNOW, TO, TO THE MERCHANT BUILDING THESE.
AND SO I THINK THAT THAT'S WHERE, TO THE MERCHANT TO THE MERCHANT, SO THE MERCHANT WILL KNOW THEIR COST TO KNOW WHETHER THEY'LL MAKE DECISIONS.
YEAH, WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM PATHS FORWARD, ROOST TO SUCCESS.
AND SO I'M HA UM, YEAH, SO THERE'S BEEN, I MEAN, LAST SUMMER, UM, YOU KNOW, WE TRAVELED TO MICHIGAN, UM, AGAIN, THAT'S VERY MUCH A SEASONAL, UM, UH, PLACE FOR PARKLETS.
AND SO, UM, THERE WAS A NUMBER OF TOWNS THAT WE VISITED WHERE, UM, IT WAS VERY CLEAR THAT THE PARKLETS WERE A SEASONAL THING, 'CAUSE IT'S SNOWING, UM, WHEN IT'S, UH,
UM, AND SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S, UM, OUT OF THE REALM OF POSSIBILITY FOR US.
AND DO YOU HAVE A PLAN TO CLOSE OUT THE, UM, TENT RENTAL PROGRAM THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDERWAY? WE HEARD EARLIER HOW, UH, CHEAP YOU CAN GET PARTITIONS, UM, PENNIES ON THE DOLLARS
UM, NANCY, WOULD YOU JUST MIND GIVING US AN UPDATE ON OUR TENTS PLEASE? SURE.
UH, WE HAVE TENTS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY AND ON PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
AND, UM, WE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO WE DO WHEN THE, WHEN THE PROGRAM IS EVOLVING OR YOU KNOW, WHAT'S APPROPRIATE.
I THINK THAT'S GONNA COME DOWN TO THE DESIGN GUIDELINES AND WHETHER WE WANNA SEE THAT TYPE OF STRUCTURE, UM, CONTINUE TO BE IN, IN THE PLACES WHERE THEY ARE.
AND SO, UM, WE, WE AS A CITY, I THINK, CAN MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT HOW WE SELL THOSE TENTS OR WHO WE SELL THEM TO AND SO FORTH.
BUT I, I, I ALSO THINK IT HAS TO DO WITH, UM, THE, THE AESTHETICS OF WHETHER WE WANT THE WHITE VINYL TENTS ON WATER STREET OR, OR NEXT TO WATER STREET, OR, UM, MAYBE, MAYBE THEY NEED TO REPLACE THE TOP, OR, YOU KNOW, IT DOES KIND OF COME DOWN TO AESTHETICS.
SO I, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE, UM, THEM IN THIS, THE CONVERSATION OF HOW WE CLOSE OUT THE OLD PROGRAM SHOULD BE PART OF WHAT WE'RE POSING TO GO FORWARD.
AND, UM, ANYTHING THAT'S EXISTING SHOULD BE GRANDFATHERED TO THE END OF ITS, UH, UTILIZATION AND, AND THEN BE COMPLIANT WITH ANY FUTURE RULE AND GUIDELINE AESTHETIC OR WHATEVER IN THE FUTURE.
BUT MOST OF THE STUFF WE HAVE HAS LIKE FIVE YEAR LIFE AND WE'RE FOUR YEARS IN, SO THAT PROBABLY DOESN'T HAVE MUCH CASH VALUE AND IT DOESN'T HAVE MUCH LIFE BEFORE WE GET TO GO TO THE NEXT LEVEL.
SO, UM, AND THAT'S FOR SOME OF THE BIGGER ONES.
I MEAN, THERE ARE SOME POPUPS AND, AND THAT'S A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION, BUT THE BIGGER ONES, HEAVY DUTY TENTS AND STUFF, THEY STILL HAVE LIMITED LIFE.
SO, UM, THAT'S MY, THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS.
AND MAYOR, I'LL JUST ADD, UM, WE DO, UH, THE CITY DOES OWN ALL THE TENTS THAT YOU SEE UP.
UM, AND SO TO YOUR POINT, THEY ARE SORT OF GETTING TO THE, UM, END OF USEFULNESS.
UM, AND SO WE WERE EVEN HAVING, HAVING A CONVERSATION THIS MORNING ABOUT COMPONENTS OF THEM, WHETHER IT'S THE CONCRETE, UM, FOUNDATION SORT OF, UM, UM, SCAFFOLDING AND SOME OF THAT STUFF THAT WE MAY CONTINUE TO USE AND REPURPOSE FOR CITY SERVICE.
UM, BUT MUCH OF THE, UM, VERTICAL, UM, PLASTIC AND VINYL, UM, ISN'T IN THE BEST SHAPE.
AND SO I, WE DO EXPECT, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS PROBABLY THE LAST YEAR, UM, AND THEN WE'D HAVE TO REVISIT THE NEED TO, SO ISN'T MOST OF IT FULLY DEPRECIATED, JUST TO KEEP THIS IN THE FORM OF A QUESTION, ISN'T IT FULLY DEPRECIATED? AND COULDN'T WE ASSIST OUR BUSINESSES IN THIS TRANSITION? THANKS.
UM, AND, AND THAT'S, THAT'S MY QUESTION FOR NOW, COUNCIL MEMBER SCH STRIPS.
SO YOU MENTIONED, UH, ONE THING I WAS, UH, CURIOUS ABOUT, UM, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PARKLETS, MOSTLY PARKING, BUT THERE'S ALSO MINI PARKS, WHEREAS I COULD, THERE'S ENOUGH ENVIRONMENTAL, UM, ARCHITECTS IN TOWN HERE WHO WOULD EASILY COME UP WITH SOME BEAUTIFUL LITTLE DESIGNS FOR A PARKING SPOT, UM, WITH MAYBE SOME TREES OR STRUCTURES OR ARTWORK AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT CREATING A, A PARK SETTING, WHICH I CAN SEE SOME ECONOMIC ADVANTAGE TOO, IF WE HAD A COUPLE OF THOSE DOWNTOWN.
SO YOU WALK DOWN THE STREET ALL WITH SOMEPLACE TO SIT AND REST FOR A LITTLE WHILE, HAVE MY ICE CREAM, AND THEN, UH, MOVE ON TO THE NEXT PLACE AND MAYBE GRAB SOMETHING TO EAT AND SIT DOWN.
BUT IT'S A PARK THAT WOULD BE BASICALLY CITY
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DESIGNED, CITY PAID FOR, AND CITY MAINTAINED, BECAUSE IT'S A PARK, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A PARKLET.UM, SO IS OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT AND A CITY OPEN TO HAVING SOME OF OUR ARCHITECTS START MAKING SOME PROPOSALS FOR SOME DOWNTOWN PARK PARKLETS.
AND, UH, IF ONCE WE ACCEPT THOSE, UM, IS THERE A WAY OF GETTING THAT INTO OUR BUDGET AND INTO OUR MAINTENANCE STREAM, UM, FOR, FOR WHAT WE WANNA DO? BECAUSE THAT WOULD, I WOULD IMAGINE ACTUALLY PROVIDE REALLY GOOD, UM, ECONOMIC BENEFIT TOTAL THAT BE ON RETURN OF COST BENEFIT.
THAT WOULD BE A HUGE RETURN, I WOULD THINK, DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, WE'VE SEEN THAT IN OTHER CITIES.
SO IS THE CITY, UM, STAFF OPEN TO MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION? UH, I LOVE THE CONCEPT.
UM, YOU KNOW, WOULD OBVIOUSLY NEED TO HAVE MORE DISCUSSION WITH OUR COUNTERPARTS, UH, WITH THE REST OF THE STAFF, UM, ABOUT THE PARK COMPONENT.
UM, BUT I THINK JUST THE IDEA OF CREATING PLACES THAT WILL BE USABLE FOR THE PUBLIC, UM, DOWNTOWN, AND THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, THAT IS RELATIVELY, UH, LOW COST, UM, AND ACCESSIBLE, UM, UM, TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC, I THINK, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR THAT.
NOW, UM, THANK YOU, UM, TO ADD TO WHAT THE MAYOR WAS TALKING ABOUT WITH THE, THE, UM, THE TENTS, UM, VERSUS, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE ALL WEATHER.
AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE OPEN AIR DINING, YOU KNOW, WHEN THOSE STRUCTURES GO AWAY, BECAUSE A LOT OF THE PHOTOGRAPHS YOU SHOWED ARE OPEN AIR DINING ALONG THE, IN FRONT OF THESE RESTAURANTS, AND I KNOW PETALUMA HAS FOG AND YOU HAVE TO WEAR A PARKA IN THE MIDDLE OF AUGUST.
UM, AND WE, WE LOVE OUR WARM SUMMER NIGHTS THAT HAPPEN LIKE MAYBE THREE TIMES A MONTH IN THE SUMMER MONTHS, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE USED TO IT AND WE DINE OUTSIDE ANYWAY WITH THE, THE HEATERS.
SO CAN WE TALK ABOUT OPEN AIR DINING, EVEN IF THE STRUCTURES GO AWAY? CAN WE HAVE A FEE FOR, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S DIFFERENT WITH ENC ENCROACHMENT IF THEY'RE NOT USING A STRUCTURE.
UM, B STREET IS FRONT OF THE WILD GOAT.
IT HAS A HUGE STRUCTURE, AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF IT'S FULL ALL THE TIME.
UM, I SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE INSIDE THE HALLWAY OF, UH, THE GREAT PILLOW MILL EATING AND INSIDE THE RESTAURANT, AND THEN THEY HAVE THIS BIG TENT OUTSIDE, WHICH ISN'T EVEN BEING USED ALL THE TIME.
SO, OR MAYBE JUST THE DAYS I GO.
BUT, UM, I, I LOVE THE OPEN AIR DINING LIKE THEY DO IN OTHER COUNTRIES AND OTHER PLACES OF THE WARMER PLACES, OF COURSE.
AND I KNOW THEY'RE ALL OVER EUROPE, SO CAN WE TALK ABOUT WHAT THE FEE STRUCTURE, BECAUSE THAT'S SORT OF LIKE THE LITTLE BISTRO TABLES ON THE SIDEWALK.
SO MAYBE PART OF THE, UM, FEE POLICY SECTION, UM, WE CAN GO INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL, BUT JUST CONCEPTUALLY, UM, I THINK OUTSIDE OF JUST ENSURING THE SAFETY AND SO NOT WANTING TO HAVE, FOR EXAMPLE, HEATERS UNDER, UM, A CANOPY, RIGHT? THERE'S PROBABLY SOME FIRE OR NOT PROBABLY.
THERE IS, UM, SOME FIRE SAFETY CODES THAT WE HAVE, UM, RELATED TO THAT.
UM, BUT ALL THE PROJECT ELEMENTS, UM, THAT'S SORT OF THE BEAUTY OF HAVING THE WORKSHOP, IS WE CAN GET THAT INPUT FROM COUNCIL ON, UH, WHAT THEY WANNA SEE.
UM, THAT'S SORT OF WHERE THE RECOMMENDATION WAS GOING WITH HAVING UMBRELLAS SO THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT SO PERMANENT, UM, WHEN YOU DON'T NEED THEM, BECAUSE I THINK WE ALL KNOW ONCE FIVE O'CLOCK HITS, WE, I LIKE TO CALL IT THE BODEGA BREEZE.
WE, IT COMES IN AND, YOU KNOW, IT CHANGES THE WEATHER QUITE DRAMATICALLY.
UM, AND SO I THINK IT LENDS SOME FLEXIBILITY IN DOING SO, WHETHER YOU WANT IT TO BE OPEN AIR VERSUS, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVING SOME SHADE ELEMENT.
UM, AND SO SHORT ANSWER IS YES.
AND LET'S, UH, OPEN IT TO PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS POINT.
UH, WE RECEIVED ANY EMAILS, UH, CARDS AND LETTERS FROM PUBLIC.
UH, WE HAVE NOT, BUT WE DO HAVE SEVERAL CARDS.
I CAN READ THE INSTRUCTIONS FIRST.
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING IN PERSON SHOULD BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARDS TO THE CLERK'S DESK IF THEY HAVE NOT ALREADY DONE SO SPEAKERS ARE REMINDED TO BE RESPECTFUL IN THEIR COMMENTS AND THAT THIS MEETING IS BEING TRANSLATED.
PLEASE PAUSE BETWEEN SENTENCES FOR TRANSLATION.
THE TIMER BEHIND THE DICE WILL BE RESET FOR EACH SPEAKER.
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SO I BELIEVE WE HAVE ABOUT EIGHT CARDS HERE, SO I'D LIKE TO EVERYBODY TO KEEP AT TWO MINUTES TONIGHT.WE'RE GONNA SET IT AT TWO MINUTES FOR COMMENTS TONIGHT.
AND OUR FIRST SPEAKER WILL BE, UH, THOMAS MAXTON TO BE FOLLOWED BY DANIEL BLINKING FOR ME.
I GOT, I GOT A YEAR'S WORTH OF CONFIDENCE FOR YOU, BUT A PICTURE'S WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS.
MY NAME'S THOMAS MAX, THAT I LIVE AT 9 0 9 0 2 WESTERN AVENUE, ADJACENT TO THE PARKLET AT 900.
AND ONE THING I HEAR IN ALL THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT PARKLET IS NOT PUBLIC SAFETY.
NOBODY'S MENTIONED PUBLIC SAFETY.
THE AREA THAT I LIVE IN IS ADJACENT TO FIVE LOCAL SCHOOLS.
I, AND I GAVE COPIES OF THIS TO THE CLERK.
IN TOTAL, THERE'S ALMOST 1900 CHILDREN WITHIN THREE BLOCKS OF THIS.
BASICALLY A BAR IN THE STREET IS WHAT IT'S BECOME.
IT INHIBITS THE ACCESS FOR THE CHILDREN.
THEY HAVE TO BASICALLY PASS THROUGH A BAR, WHICH SOMETIMES THEY CAN'T EVEN GET THROUGH.
THEY'VE TAKEN OVER THE ENTIRE SIDEWALK, KIDS RIDING THEIR BIKES IN THE PICTURES AGAIN, OR PUSHED INTO THE STREET BY THIS OBSTRUCTION, BASICALLY STRUCTURE THAT'S 40 BY EIGHT BY, IT'S THE SIZE OF A CITY BUS AND PUTTING FLOWERS ON.
WESTERN AVENUE IS A MAJOR THROUGH AFFAIR, ONE OF THREE MAIN ARTERIES LEAVING TOWN HEAVY COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC, HEAVY COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC, 18 WHEELERS OF EVERY TYPE.
JOHN DEERE COMBINES ALL IN THE PHOTOS.
UM, GOSH, I LITERALLY HAVE NINE PAGES, SO I SEE I HAVE 45 SECONDS LEFT.
UM, IT'S A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE, AND I'D LIKE TO SUMMARIZE THIS, AND I WILL EMAIL IT TO YOU WITH ALL THESE COMMENTS THAT I HAVE.
AND THAT'S ON THE PUBLIC SIDE OF IT.
THESE KIDS ARE AT RISK, THEY'RE IN THE STREET, AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE HAVING TO NAVIGATE THROUGH A BAR.
IT'S NOT DOWNTOWN, IT'S WESTERN AVENUE.
IT'S THE LAST STOP SIGN BEFORE EVERYBODY HITS THE GAS OUT OF TOWN.
IT'S A RISK, A BIG RISK TO THESE KIDS.
UM, AGAIN, IN THE PHOTOGRAPHS, 14 SECONDS LEFT, I LIVE NEXT DOOR.
IT'S BECOME A COMPLETE ENCROACHMENT ON MY PROPERTY.
IT'S COMMERCIALIZED BY DRIVEWAY.
THERE'S PEOPLE THAT SPILL OUT INTO MY FRONT YARD.
IT'S BECOME A LOITERING, LITTERING MESS.
I THINK WE HEAR YOUR, I WILL, I WILL.
I WILL CONDENSE THESE AND EMAIL IT TO YOU.
PLEASE, PLEASE LOOK AT THE PHOTOGRAPHS.
DANIEL BLAKENEY, FORM B, UH, TO BE FOLLOWED BY APRIL.
FOR ME, I OWN JUPITER FOODS ON, UH, 100 PETALUMA BOULEVARD NORTH.
I WAS PART OF THE FREE RANGE PROGRAM.
I, UH, THE STAFF WHO, UH, PUT THAT TOGETHER WAS A GODSEND AT THE TIME WHEN I WAS OPENING MY BUSINESS, AND, UH, CERTAINLY HELPED LAUNCH ME INTO WHERE I AM NOW.
UM, WHAT I'D LIKE TO COME IN FRONT OF COUNCIL FOR TONIGHT IS TO ASK, UH, THE, UH, POINTS ABOUT THE EQUITABLE DESIGNATION OF THIS SPACE.
UH, ANYTHING IN PUBLIC SPACE SEEMS TO BE, UH, NEEDING A SAME DESIGN REVIEW AS THAT, THAT'S ON PRIVATE.
I FEEL LIKE, UH, THE RESTAURANTS THAT, UH, HAVE THE PARKLETS NOW, WE ALL DESIGNATE THEM AS WHO BELONGS TO.
AND FOR ME, AS A VESTED INTEREST PERSON IN THE DOWNTOWN, UH, I WANT IT TO BE RIGHT FOR EVERYBODY.
AND WHAT I SEE IS THAT RESTAURANTS THAT HAVE THOSE PARKLETS, THEY'RE, UH, THEY SEEM TO OWN THEM.
AND, UH, THE COMMENTS THAT WERE PART OF WHAT THE STAFF HAD PRESENTED, BEING THAT IT'S, UH, PUBLIC SPACE THAT CAN BE, UH, UTILIZED BY EVERYONE AT ANY TIME IS OF UTMOST IMPORTANCE.
I'D LIKE TO, UH, POINT OUT THAT THE DESIGN REVIEW, EXCUSE ME, THE DESIGN REVIEW OF THOSE SPACES, UH, SHOULD ALSO BE SOMETHING THAT'S, UH, WELL CONSIDERED.
UH, THE, THE TENTS THAT WE HAVE ON WATER STREET NOW, THE TENTS THAT WE HAVE AROUND TOWN ARE LOOKING DATED.
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A, A DUSTY LOOK.AND, UH, AS A, AS A BUSINESSMAN DOWNTOWN, I WOULD LIKE TO ELEVATE THE ALL OF US ALL AT ONCE AND, AND NOT JUST A FEW.
APRIL F FRED FREDERICK TO BE FOLLOWED BY JOSH SIMMONS.
HI, I AM APRIL, THE OWNER OF ESTU.
THANK YOU FOR THE SURVEY ON THE PARKLETS.
THE THREE HIGHLIGHTS I TOOK AWAY FROM THE FINDINGS ARE PUBLIC SPACE FOR EVERYONE CONCERNED ABOUT PARKING DOWNTOWN AND MORE PUBLIC SPACES ON WATER STREET.
I LOVE PETALUMA, ESPECIALLY DOWNTOWN PETALUMA.
THIS IS WHY I DECIDED TO INVEST MY MONEY AND START A RETAIL STORE DURING COVID IN THE TOWN.
PETALUMA IS A SPECIAL PLACE BECAUSE OF THE AMAZING FOOD, ARCHITECTURE, ART AND SHOPPING.
DID YOU KNOW THE NUMBER ONE REASON PEOPLE COME HERE IS FOR SHOPPING? I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT PARKLETS SERVE AND HELP EVERYONE.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE WATER STREET USED AND ACTIVATED.
I'D LOVE TO SEE A PLACE WHERE ALL AGES CAN HANG OUT AND GATHER.
IT WOULD BE GREAT TO SEE SHARED PARKLETS WHERE RESTAURANTS COULD USE IT, BUT PEOPLE COULD JUST SIT AND GATHER AND HAVE COFFEE AT ANY TIME.
I'D LIKE TO SEE A PARKLET PROGRAM THAT IT IS TODAY, LIKE IT IS TODAY ENDED BEFORE THE HOLIDAY SEASON.
THAT IS THE TIME WHEN MOST RETAILERS MAKE MOST OF THEIR MONEY THAT HELP CARRY US THROUGH THE SLOWER SEASONS.
GIVING THEM SIX MONTHS DOES NOT HELP RETAIL AT ALL.
RESTAURANTS WITH PARKLETS HAVE HAD FOUR YEARS OF FINANCIAL SUPPORT WITH EXTRA SEATING, RETAIL AND SERVICE HAS HAD NO ADDITIONAL FINANCIAL SUPPORT.
MY BIGGEST CONCERNS WITH THE PARKLET IS THE ONE BEHIND RE CBC THAT WAS NUMBER SEVEN ON THE MAP.
UNDERUTILIZED, TAKES UP MANY PARKING SPACES.
IT ALSO BLOCKS THE SAFE WALKWAY ON THE BO ON, UM, NEXT TO THE RIVER.
SO PEOPLE ARE WALKING ON THE COBBLESTONE.
I SUPPORT ALL OF MY FELLOW BUSINESS OWNERS.
I WANT ALL BUSINESSES TO DO WELL AND TO SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY.
PLEASE SUPPORT ALL BUSINESSES BY GIVING US BACK PARKING, DEVELOPING A NEW PARKLET PROGRAM.
PLEASE SEE THE SUNSET PARKLET PROGRAMS TO BE SUNSETTED IN THREE MONTHS AND MAKE ROOM TO CREATE NEW OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR TOWN.
THANK YOU JOSH SIMMONS TO BE FOLLOWED BY, UH, BY BRIAN MOYNIHAN.
I'M A MEMBER, MEMBER OF THE GENERAL PLAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND, UH, LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD AND FORMER MEMBER OF THE TECHNOLOGY ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
AND I REMEMBER, UH, ONE MEETING BEFORE WE GOT STARTED HEARING, UH, HOW HARD, UH, STAFF, UH, NANCY AND INGRID AND OTHERS HAD BEEN WORKING AFTER A PARTICULARLY WILD WINDSTORM TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PARKLETS AND EVERYTHING WAS STILL OKAY.
I JUST WANT TO THANK CITY STAFF FOR ALL OF THE HARD WORK PUT INTO THE FREE RANGE PROGRAM AND ADAPTING US TO THE PANDEMIC.
AND NOT ONLY THAT, BUT ALSO IN MAKING DOWNTOWN A MUCH MORE WELCOMING AND HOSPITABLE PLACE WHERE WE ARE RECLAIMING AND ACTIVATING, UH, PARKING SPACES THAT ARE OTHERWISE JUST SUBSIDIZING PEOPLE'S CARS.
WE CAN GET THERE ON BIKE, WE CAN WALK, WE CAN TAKE PUBLIC TRANSIT.
NOT ONLY THAT, THESE OUTDOOR DINING EXPERIENCES AND OTHER OUTDOOR RETAIL EXPERIENCES ALONGSIDE THEM ALLOW US TO HAVE THE ECONOMIC BENEFIT WHILE IN, WHILE ACCENTUATING WHAT MAKES PETALUMA SO UNIQUE.
WE ARE APPRECIATING THE ARCHITECTURE.
WE'RE APPRECIATING THE NATURAL BEAUTY OF OUR TOWN.
I WANNA HIGHLIGHT ALSO THAT PARKLETS HAVE A MUCH DEEPER MEANING.
UH, PARKLETS ARE SOMETHING THAT ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO PEOPLE LIKE ME.
YOU MAY NOTICE I'M WEARING A MASK.
SO I HAVE HERE, UH, A CO2 METER, WHICH I TRAVEL WITH OFTEN, AND BRIAN WILL REMEMBER THIS FROM THE LAST IN-PERSON G PACK MEETING I WAS AT.
A LOT OF OUR BUILDINGS IN PETALUMA ARE OLD, THEY'RE HISTORIC AND THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL, BUT THEY'RE TERRIBLY VENTILATED.
THIS ROOM IS LESS THAN HALF FULL, AND THE VENTILATION IS, IT'S, IT'S NOT GOOD.
UH, AND SO WHEN YOU ADD INTO THAT A ROOM THAT IS FULL AND PEOPLE ARE DINING AND EATING AND HAVING LIVELY CONVERSATION, IT BECOMES A SPACE THAT IS UNSAFE IN TERMS OF INDOOR AIR QUALITY.
ONE OF THE LESSONS OF THE PANDEMIC IS THAT AIR QUALITY MATTERS, LIKE WATER QUALITY.
IN TERMS OF CORA, WE HAVEN'T INTEGRATED THE LESSONS YET.
I LIKE HOW THIS CONVERSATION IS SHAPING UP.
LET'S BUILD AND EXPAND ON WHAT YOU'VE DONE.
THANK YOU BRIAN MOYNIHAN TO BE FOLLOWED BY, UH, CHRISTOPHER N. GOOD EVENING.
I'M GONNA WEAR MY HAT AS A PROPERTY MANAGER WITH NEXUS RELATED GROUP, INC.
WE MANAGE FIVE DOWNTOWN BUILDINGS, UH, BASICALLY RIGHT ON WESTERN END, KENTUCKY.
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BEEN INTERESTING OVER THE YEARS.UH, GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND.
YEARS AGO WE BUILT THE KELLER STREET GARAGE, AND THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T REMEMBER, THERE WAS A PARKING ASSESSMENT CHARGED EACH OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS, UM, IN THAT AREA.
AND THEY PAID THAT ASSESSMENT FOR OVER 20 YEARS.
SO THEY, WITH THE GOAL, OF COURSE, OF RELIEVING THE PARKING CONGESTION ON KENTUCKY AND THE DOWNTOWN AREA, PROVIDING MORE PARKING.
SO NOW THAT THEY PAID IT, THE CITY'S COMING IN AND ELIMINATING PARKING WITH THE PARKLETS AND TAKING AWAY THE PARKING THAT IS THERE.
AND, YOU KNOW, I'M ALL FOR, IF INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS WANNA COME FORWARD AND BE PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL, THAT'S GREAT.
YOU, YOU CAN EVALUATE THEM, YOU CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT FEE YOU WANT TO CHARGE 'EM, ALL THAT TYPE OF THING IS GREAT.
COMING UP WITH A PARKLET PROGRAM, UH, IS A WASTE, I FEEL OF YOUR TIME, YOUR LIMITED TIME AND RESOURCES AS A CITY.
THE PROBLEM WHEN YOU GET INTO, UH, I DID THE SURVEY, BY THE WAY, ONLINE AND THE SURVEY, UM, REALLY DIDN'T ALLOW PEOPLE TO SAY NO PARKING.
THERE WAS ONE QUESTION THAT ADDRESSED IT REALLY THAT I REMEMBER.
AND IT, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S KIND OF MORE OF A GUIDED DECISION PROCESS.
OKAY, HERE'S THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE.
WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT FEES AND PERMITS? IF YOU WANNA FIGURE OUT THE FEES AND PERMITS, CHARGE THE EXISTING PARKLETS, THOSE FEES AND PERMITS NOW AND SEE HOW MANY STICK AROUND.
AND, YOU KNOW, I WOULD ACTUALLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO ELIMINATE ALL THE ONES LEFT OVER.
NOW I MANAGE A BUILDING NEXT TO ME, PUEBLO.
AND NANCY WAS KIND ENOUGH TO ASK US, CALL US UP DURING THE, THE PANDEMIC AND SAY, HEY, DO YOU MIND IF THEY KIND OF ENCROACH ON YOUR, YOUR BUILDING? AND, AND I SAID, NO.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GOOD PEOPLE.
AND WE, I LIKE THE RESTAURANT.
AND FEEL FREE TO SUBMIT BY EMAIL THE REST OF THE COMMENTS, INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES, YOU'LL GET FIVE TIMES THE TIME
UH, I HAD THE MISFORTUNE RECENTLY OF ATTEMPTING TO PARK ON KENTUCKY STREET.
IT ACTUALLY TOOK ME FIVE MINUTES TO GET FROM WESTERN AVENUE TO WASHINGTON STREET WHILE I WAITED, STUCK BEHIND PEOPLE WHO WERE WAITING IN THEIR CARS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET WAITING TO GET A PARK THEMSELVES.
ONE BLOCK, FIVE MINUTES, UH, I GAVE UP, I WENT HOME.
UH, I'M JUST NOT THAT COMMITTED TO GIVING YOU MY EXTRA INCREMENTAL TAX DOLLARS.
SORRY, ESPECIALLY SINCE THERE'S NOWHERE ELSE ON KENTUCKY STREET TO SPEND TIME.
UM, I WANNA COMPARE THAT TO WATER STREET, WHICH BEFORE THE PANDEMIC WAS JUST A PLACE TO PARK.
AND I THINK IT'S NOW ONE OF THE NICEST PARTS OF PETALUMA.
UM, I GO OUT OF MY WAY TO SPEND TIME THERE, AND KENTUCKY STREET IS SOMEWHERE WHERE I CAN AVOID IF I CAN HELP IT.
AND, AND THIS IS FUNNY BECAUSE LIKE, WHERE DO WE, WHERE DO WE COME TO SHOW THE REST OF SONOMA COUNTY WHEN THEY COME TO PETALUMA AND BUTTER AND EGGS DAY? IT'S KENTUCKY STREET.
IT'S THE SAME FOR THE ANTIQUE FAIRS, BUT THE OTHER 360 DAYS OF THE YEAR, IT'S A MESS THAT YOU CAN'T ACTUALLY VISIT.
BECAUSE EVEN WITH 50 ODD PARKING SPACES, YOU CAN'T ACTUALLY PARK THERE.
YOU SPEND TIME PARKED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET WAITING FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO PARK, AND YOU GIVE UP.
AND IT'S BEEN THAT WAY FOR AS LONG AS I'VE LIVED HERE.
SO WHY DO I BRING THIS UP? PARKLETS DO MAKE OUR PUBLIC SPACES BETTER.
I DON'T MISS BEING ABLE TO DRIVE ON WATER STREET.
I LOVE THAT I CAN WALK ALONG THE RIVERFRONT OR OR DINE THERE.
THERE'S ONLY ONE PARKLET ON KENTUCKY STREET RIGHT NOW, AND I THINK FREEING UP TWO PARKING SPACES ISN'T GONNA FIX.
KENTUCKY STREET'S BEEN BROKEN SINCE BEFORE WE HAD PARKLETS.
LOSING ANOTHER TWO PARKING SPACES WON'T MAKE PARKING WORSE, BUT IT WILL MAKE THE ONE STREET IN DOWNTOWN WHERE WE INVITE PEOPLE FROM OUT OF TOWN INCREMENTALLY BETTER.
WE NEED TO FIND A DIFFERENT WAY AND A DIFFERENT PLACE TO FIX PARKING DOWNTOWN.
BUT IN THE MEANTIME, LET'S HAVE MORE PARKLETS AND MAKE OUR DOWNTIMES DOWNTOWN SOMEWHERE WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY SPEND TIME.
THANK YOU DAVE ALDEN TO BE FOLLOWED BY, UH, MARIE MCCUSKER.
LOVELY TO BE HERE THIS EVENING.
UH, I'VE BEEN ENCOURAGING THE CITY TO HAVE A PARKLET POLICY SINCE 2016, SO I'M PLEASED THE CONVERSATION CONTINUES.
UH, I LIVE A BLOCK AND A HALF FROM RAYS I VISIT THERE REGULARLY.
I THINK I'VE BUMPED INTO AT LEAST HALF THE COUNCIL AT VARIOUS TIMES THERE.
SO, UH, AGAIN, VERY COMMITTED TO PARKLETS.
WELL, WHAT I WANNA TALK ABOUT THIS EVENING IS THE IMAGINATION TO HAVE A RANGE OF THINGS THAT PARKLETS CAN DO.
I RECENTLY HAD REASON TO SPEND A COUPLE OF WEEKS IN CINCINNATI.
WASN'T ON MY BUCKET LIST, IT JUST WORKED OUT THAT WAY.
BUT THERE'S AN OLD NEIGHBORHOOD CALLED OVER THERY IN
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CINCINNATI, OLD GERMAN NEIGHBORHOOD, GOING THROUGH SOME NICE RENOVATION.IN THE MIDDLE OF IT IS A PLACE CALLED THE FINLEY PUBLIC MARKET.
REALLY A LOVELY PLACE, GREAT FOOD.
AND AROUND THERE ARE SOME PARKLETS FOR SMALL STARTUP FOOD BUSINESSES, NOT READY TO TAKE THE RISK OF BUYING A PLACE IN THE MARKET, BUT IT'S A WAY TO GET STARTED.
SEE IF THERE IS A MARKET THERE, IF THEY CAN GROW THEIR BUSINESS AND MAKE IT MORE SUCCESSFUL.
WALKING FROM FINLEY MARKET BACK TOWARD DOWNTOWN CINCINNATI, THE PRIMARY STREET IS VINE.
REGULARLY, AS YOU WALK DOWN VINE, THERE ARE PARKLETS GREAT PLACE TO SIT AND EAT.
SO ONE MORNING HAD A GREAT BRUNCH, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, THEY NARROW ONE OF THE TRAFFIC LANES TO 10 FEET.
SO HERE YOU HAVE A MAJOR STREET GOING FROM A BURGEONING NEIGHBORHOOD BACK DOWNTOWN, AND YET TRAFFIC IS GOING 20 MILES AN HOUR BECAUSE THE PARKLETS ARE CREATING THAT EDGE FRICTION THAT SLOWS TRAFFIC.
AS WE GET INTO DOWNTOWN, YOU HAVE A SORT OF AN UNUSUAL SITUATION WHERE THE BENGALS PLAY AT ONE END OF A SMALL STREET AND THE REDS PLAY AT THE OTHER.
YOU HAVE THREE BLOCKS OF LARGELY PARKLETS BECAUSE A HUNDRED DAYS A YEAR YOU HAVE THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF FANS COMING TO HANG OUT.
IT'S ONE OF THE MOST JOVIAL FRIENDLY PLACES TO BE IN CINCINNATI.
SO AGAIN, THREE DIFFERENT USES OF PARKLETS IN ONE TOWN.
YES, THE LAST ONE DOES NOT APPLY AT ALL.
NONETHELESS, IT INDICATES THE RANGE OF THINGS THAT PARKLETS CAN DO.
ANNEMARIE MCCUSKER WOULD BE OUR LAST SPEAKER OF THE EVENING.
GOOD EVENING COUNCIL AND, UH, MAYOR MCDONALD.
UM, GOING BACK, YOU KNOW, I WAS PART OF BUILDING THOSE PARKLETS.
I GOT A CREATIVE SONOMA GRANT AND I HAD $30,000 TO BUILD THREE PARKLETS.
TWO OF THEM WERE SHARED THE RAYS AND FAST BINDER AND STOCKHOLM AND THE BAG ON MAIL, AND ALSO MEET PABLO.
UM, WE WANTED TO, UM, THE OBJECTIVE OF THAT I DECIDED IS TO GET PEOPLE OUTSIDE, TO GET SAVE RESTAURANTS AND ALSO TO, UM, FIND MONEY TO PAY ARTISTS.
WE WERE ABLE TO DO ALL OF THOSE.
WE ACTUALLY HAD KEVIN CLARK FROM RAIDING STEEL.
HE BUILT MUI PABLO FROM ALL THE STUFF THAT HE HAD IN HIS BACK GARDEN.
WE BUILT THAT FOR PEANUTS AND WHERE PUEBLO HAD TO PUT A FLOOR IN AND HAD TO PUT A ROOF ON IT.
STRUCTURAL ENGINEERS WERE USED FOR ALL OF THEM.
AND THEY, YOU FOUND A VERY QUICK WAY OF, OF DOING THAT.
THOSE PROJECTS, IT WAS AD HOC BECAUSE WE, UM, IT WASN'T LIKE, WELL, WHERE WOULD WE LIKE A PARKLET? IT WAS WHO WANTED ONE AND WHAT COULD WE DO CREATIVELY? AND I THINK WHAT CAME OF THIS WAS OPPORTUNITY.
OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE, WE WERE ABLE TO MARKET PETAL LIMIT AS A PLACE TO COME DURING COVID BECAUSE YOU WERE SAFE TO EAT OUTDOORS.
YOU KNOW, WE MANAGED TO SAVE MOST OF OUR RESTAURANTS BY DOING THAT.
RETAIL WASN'T READY TO COME OUT.
WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH RETAIL.
MOST THEY WERE OFFERED, BUT THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO BE INSIDE AND OUTSIDE AT THE SAME TIME.
SO I THINK THERE'S SO MANY THINGS THAT WE'VE LEARNED FROM THIS, AND I I DO THINK WE'RE TIME TO LOOK AT A NEW PARKLET PROGRAM, BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO STAY CREATIVE.
LET'S GET THAT ARTISTIC FLAVOR IN OUR TOWN.
LET'S KEEP PEOPLE OUTSIDE EUROPE, EVERYONE'S OUTSIDE.
LET'S NOT GET INSIDE AND CLOSE OURSELVES UP.
I THINK AS A DESTINATION, I THINK YOUR PUBLIC HAVE TOLD YOU THEY WANNA BE OUTSIDE.
I'LL MAKE THAT CHOICE EVERY TIME.
AND WE HAVE DOGS, YOU KNOW, WHEN PEOPLE CAN'T PET TRAVEL, THEY THANK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND WITH THAT, THAT CLOSES PUBLIC, UH, COMMENT, I'D LIKE TO BRING IT BACK UP TO THE COUNCIL FOR COMMENT.
UH, AND LET'S ASK FOR A LITTLE CLARITY FROM STAFF.
YOU WANT US TO HIT ON A COUPLE OF POINTS SPECIFICALLY.
UM, AND I, I CAPTURED USE LOCATION, DENSITY, FREQUENCY, DESIGN FEES, TRANSITION, BUT I THINK THERE'S SOME OTHERS.
UM, AND, UM, SO, UH, THOSE ARE THE, THOSE ARE THE SEVEN, UM, ITEMS WE'D LIKE TO TRY AND PHRASE R OTHERWISE BROAD COMMENTARY INTO THESE TYPES OF, UH, COMMENTS.
SO, UM, WHO WOULD LIKE TO, UH, LEAD OFF UP HERE? COUNCIL MEMBER, BARNACLE, HAPPY TO START.
UM, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
UM, AND I CONCUR WITH WHAT JOSH SAID TOO, THAT, UM, THANK YOU FOR THE WORK TO, TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN DURING COVID.
UM, I COULDN'T AGREE MORE WITH WHAT MARIE AND DAVE SAID ABOUT FOSTERING CREATIVITY.
UM, WHEN WE THINK ABOUT, UH, OUR GENERAL PLAN AND LIKE THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT THEY IDENTIFIED FOR US TO REALLY LEAN INTO LIKE OUR ARTISTIC
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AND OUR, LIKE THE ART CULTURE THAT WE HAVE HERE, THAT'S REALLY, UM, BUDDING.UM, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT NOT TO JUST MAKE THIS ABOUT THE BID, UM, BECAUSE I THINK THAT THERE'S SO MANY CREATIVE IDEAS THAT THE PEOPLE AT PETALUMA ARE GONNA COME UP WITH THAT.
UM, Y'ALL WE'RE NOT GOING TO TONIGHT.
UM, YOU'RE NOT GONNA IN CITY HALL.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK ABOUT PLACES LIKE BELL FAIR AND HECTOR'S AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, A COUPLE OF PARKING SPACES GONE IN THAT PARKING LOT FOR AN OUTDOOR SEATING AREA COULD BE REALLY, YOU KNOW, REALLY SPICY AND REALLY ACTIVATE THAT AREA WITH, ESPECIALLY WITH THE HIGH SCHOOL RIGHT DOWN THE STREET.
I DON'T WANT TO ELIMINATE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES BECAUSE AS WE THINK ABOUT RE-IMAGINING, LIKE THESE ARE, UM, THESE ARE SORT OF LIKE STEP ONE TWO, UM, TO DOING THAT.
UM, I THINK THE MAYOR WAS HINTING AT IT ABOUT ALLOWING FOR, UH, TEMPORARY INSTALLATIONS.
I THINK THAT'S A MUST BECAUSE PARKLETS CAN BE FAIRLY EXPENSIVE.
UM, AND WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, AN EASY UP THERE FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR THREE MONTHS OR THREE YEARS IN THIS CASE.
BUT, UM, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, A WEEKEND OR A WEEK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO PILOT SOMETHING BEFORE YOU'RE GONNA SPEND, YOU KNOW, $15,000 ON AN ENGINEERING DRAWING SHOULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, OR $15,000 ON, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS AN ARCHITECTURAL DRAWING AND THEN THE CONSTRUCTION, THE MATERIALS AND ALL THAT.
UM, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE LIKE, IS THIS EVEN GONNA VIBE WITH MY, MY SPACE? UM, UH, I HAVE A LOT OF HEARTBURN ABOUT DESIGN GUIDELINES FOR PARKLETS, UM, BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO REALLY JUST, UM, HINDER OUR, UM, THE CREATIVITY.
UM, I IT MAY BE A MORE EXTENDED PROCESS.
UM, AND MAYBE WE DO HAVE SOME, YOU KNOW, CANNED ONES, BUT I WOULD PREFER TO NOT BE TOO PRESCRIPTIVE HERE.
AND ESPECIALLY THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WHY I WANT TO MAKE IT ALLOWABLE TO GET OUTSIDE OF THE DOWNTOWN BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE DON'T HAVE THE, THE, LIKE, THE O LIKE THE, UM, THE OVERLAY OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT COMES WITH, WITH DOING ANYTHING IN OUR DOWNTOWN, I THINK IT'LL, YOU KNOW, OPEN ITSELF UP TO A LOT OF CREATIVITY.
UM, UH, I THINK USES, UM, I DEFINITELY THINK THAT ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE GONNA BE CHARGING FEES, THAT THE BUSINESS THAT IS PAYING THE FEE FOR THAT SPACE SHOULD HAVE A PRIORITY USE FOR THEIR, THEIR SPACE.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT SHOULD BE, UM, I THINK IT'S MANDATORY THAT IT ALSO IS PER PUBLIC USE.
UM, UH, I, ONE OF THE THINGS, UM, THAT I'VE NOTICED ABOUT CERTAIN PARKLETS IS THAT THEY BECOME WHAT FEEL LIKE STORAGE UNITS, UH, DURING THE WINTER MONTHS.
AND I THINK THAT MAYBE IT'S JUST BECAUSE THE TENTS ARE THERE AND THEN THEY CAN USE 'EM.
BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF, WHEN I THINK ABOUT LIKE THE TENTS ON WATER STREET WHERE, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THAT WAS A, A GAZEBO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND MORE PERMANENT, UM, IT MIGHT NOT BE, WOULDN'T BE SUCH AN EYESORE TO JUST HAVE A BUNCH OF WHITE VINYL OUT THERE ON THE WATERFRONT
AND THEN WHEN IT'S NOT IN USE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CAN, YOU KNOW, DO WHATEVER THEY NEED TO THERE.
BUT, UM, WE SHOULD BE TRYING TO CREATE INVITING PLACES WITH THESE.
UM, I THINK THE USES ON, ON THE TOPIC OF USES, UM, PICKLE BALL'S A GREAT ONE.
I'D LOVE TO SEE MORE, UH, PICKLE BALLS, UM, PICKLEBALL COURTS IN PARKING LOTS.
UM, UH, BIKE PARKING, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S AN EFFORT TO, TO BRING BIKE CORRALS DOWNTOWN.
UM, REALLY WHAT'S KIND OF HELD UP THAT CONVERSATION MAYOR IS UM, WE HAVE TO ADD I THINK LIKE 1180 DA PARKING SPACES AND THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY LOCATE THOSE AT THE OPTIMAL PLACES BEFORE BRINGING IN THE BIKE CORRALS.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I WILL BE ACTIVELY PATRONIZING THE FIRST BUSINESS TO USE THEIR PARKLET MONEY TO BUILD A BIKE CORRAL IN FRONT OF THEIR BUSINESS.
UM, SO, UH, I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT.
UM, SO ON THE, ON THE FEES, UM, I, UH, I STRUGGLE WITH THIS.
I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT A LOT.
UM, IT'S NOT LOST ON ME THAT NOBODY PAYS FOR PARKING RIGHT NOW.
AND SO TO PAY FOR ANYTHING MORE THAN THE, THE PERMIT, UM, TO, YOU KNOW, GIVE THE PUBLIC BACK AT SPACE
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FROM THE, UM, YOU KNOW, I STRUGGLE WITH THAT.UM, AT THE SAME TIME, IF, IF A BUSINESS IS USING IT, UM, THEN, YOU KNOW, THERE IS, THERE IS VALUE THERE TOO.
BUT, UM, I REALLY STRUGGLE WITH THE IDEA THAT WE'RE GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, MAKING A PREMIUM ON, ON THESE PARKING SPACES THAT RIGHT NOW WE'RE, WE'RE NOT, UM, IN TERMS OF DENSITY, I THINK BERG'S IS WAY TOO LOW.
UM, I'M, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO BE AT, YOU KNOW, 50%.
UM, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO BE AT PROBABLY 30%, BUT 5% FEELS LOW.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, I, I LIKE THE, THE RESIDENTIAL USE CASE THAT THAT COUNCIL MEMBER SCHIBS GAVE.
I THINK THAT THERE'S, UM, PART OF THIS TOO IS, IS LIKE WE LEARNED FROM THE FREE RANGE PROGRAM BECAUSE LIKE WE HAD THIS IMPERATIVE TO TRY AND SAVE BUSINESSES.
AND I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE RECOGNIZE THAT, LIKE THE CREATIVE IDEAS THAT ARE GONNA COME FROM THE COMMUNITY.
LIKE I'VE TALKED TO SOME PEOPLE WHO LIVE ON FIFTH STREET AND THEY'RE GETTING THE GREENWAY AND THEY WOULD LOVE TO PUT A PARKLET OUT IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE AND TURN LIKE THAT INTO LIKE A HANGOUT FOR THE KIDS TO COME AND, YOU KNOW, SIT OUTSIDE AND, YOU KNOW, SELL LEMONADE OR READ BOOKS OR WHATEVER AND JUST LIKE MAKE THAT A DESIGNATED PART OF THE FIFTH STREET GREENWAY, RIGHT? UM, WE'VE GOTTA ENCOURAGE THAT CREATIVITY SO WE GET NEW MODELS THAT OTHER PEOPLE LOOK AT AND OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY AND ARE LIKE, I'M BRINGING THAT OVER HERE.
I WANT THAT, YOU KNOW, SUBURBAN PARKLET OVER HERE.
UM, SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE CONTINUE TO LIKE, USE THIS PROGRAM TO FOSTER CREATIVITY.
UM, AND THAT MIGHT MEAN, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE THING THAT I, THAT CONCERNS ME ABOUT NOT HAVING PRESET DESIGN GUIDELINES, LIKE WHAT YOU IDENTIFIED IS, UM, IT'S JUST THE AMOUNT OF TIME AND COST THAT EVERYTHING'S GONNA TAKE IF WE HAVE TO KEEP GOING BACK AND FORTH.
UM, BUT WHEN, YOU KNOW, I JUST, UH, I THINK THE PURPOSE IS TO GET SOMETHING, GET SOMETHING DONE TOO.
UM, AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, DRAGGING ON A, A PROCESS FOR A PARKLET, I WAS PART OF THE RAISE PARKLET AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE MOST FRUSTRATING, UM, EXPERIENCES IN MY LIFE GETTING THAT APPROVED.
UM, AND IT WAS, UM, THE DESIGN THAT, THAT YOU DON'T LIKE, WE DON'T LIKE IT EITHER.
WE WANTED IT TO BE WAY BETTER, ONE DRIVEWAY.
WE WANTED IT TO BE WAY BETTER.
UM, AND, UM, BUT THAT, I MEAN, THAT HAS GIVEN, YOU KNOW, IT'S CONTRIBUTED TO, YOU KNOW, WAY MORE LIFE ON THAT CORNER.
UM, I, I'M SORRY YOU DON'T LIKE IT.
IT'S UM, QUITE FRANKLY MY THIRD SPOT, UM,
UH, AND SO I, UM, I FEEL VERY DIFFERENT.
UM, BUT UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S MY COMMENTS FOR NOW.
WOULD WE BE COMFORTABLE GOING ACROSS THE DI ARE YOU READY? SURE.
UM, I THINK I WANNA START WITH, WELL, I JUST WANNA TALK ABOUT THE HOWARD STREET PROJECT AND HOW WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING ABOUT THE HOWARD STREET PROJECT, WE WERE LOOKING AT DOING A ONE WAY DOWN LIBERTY STREET, WHICH GIVES X AMOUNT MORE PARKING.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND YOU COULD PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, REALLY LOOK AT THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT THE PARKING, UM, FOR DOWNTOWN IS HOW WE CAN ACTUALLY MAYBE MAKE MORE ONE WAY STREET.
SO THE PARKING IS MORE LIKE KENTUCKY STREET.
UM, AND SO YOU GET A LOT MORE THAN JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, BACKING IN PARKING.
UM, SO I THINK, UM, 'CAUSE I'M NOT AS WORRIED ABOUT PARKING AS, AS LONG AS WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO WITH THE SURROUNDING AREAS, BECAUSE I DON'T MIND WALKING A BLOCK OR TWO INTO TOWN THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOOD EXERCISE AND, AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING.
BUT I DO HAVE A PROBLEM WHEN I GO DOWNTOWN AND I FORTUNATELY GO TO JUPITER FOODS AND I SAY, CAN I LEAVE MY BIKE THERE? AND THEN I, YOU KNOW, HOOK IT UP TO THEIR WROUGHT IRON.
UM, AND SO I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO REALLY TACKLE BIKE PARKING DOWNTOWN, BECAUSE I'M TIRED OF GOING DOWNTOWN AND NOT HAVING ANY SPACES TO PARK UNLESS YOU KNOW SOMEBODY AND THEY'RE REALLY NICE AND THEY LET YOU LOCK YOUR BIKE UP.
UM, AS FAR AS, UM, PUBLIC USE, I THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I WAS, I GO DOWNTOWN A LOT AND I MEET PEOPLE AND THERE'S, AND I DON'T WANNA GO INTO A COFFEE SHOP BECAUSE I DON'T PARTICULARLY LIKE SPENDING $6 ON A CUP OF COFFEE.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING I DON'T DO.
AND I ENDED UP, UM, GOING TO LUNCH AT AND USING THEIR TABLE AND HAD A MEETING WITH A FEW PEOPLE.
AND SO I FEEL LIKE DOWNTOWN THERE JUST ISN'T ANY PUBLIC SPACE FOR THE PUBLIC REALLY TO USE.
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THESE CHAIRS AND TABLES DOWN THERE AND YOU'RE NOT, YOU DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO USE 'EM OR NOT.UM, AND I, I FEEL LIKE, UM, WATER STREET, WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT WATER STREET AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO, UM, THERE.
AND ALSO POSSIBLY EXTENDING PUTNAM PARK ACROSS TO WATER STREET.
YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE PARKING THERE AND THIS IS WHY I'M TALKING ABOUT PARKING IN OTHER AREAS SO PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY WALK DOWNTOWN.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, REALLY HAVING, UH, A LOT OF PUBLIC ACCESS BECAUSE I, I REALIZE, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA HAVE THIS AS SHARED PUBLIC SPACES, BUT ARE THEY REALLY GONNA BE SHARED? UM, AND WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH OF THAT, UM, TYPE OF SPACE DOWNTOWN.
UM, AS FAR AS CREATIVITY FOR, UM, THESE PARKLETS, I THINK I SUPPORT, UM, DENNIS POST CASE COMMENT.
YOU KNOW, DOING SOMETHING ARTISTIC AND, YOU KNOW, ART CAN BE CONTROVERSIAL, BUT I THINK ART IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
AND ALSO GREENERY AROUND, UM, THOSE SPACES.
IF IT'S NOT TREES, THEN IT, IT NEEDS TO BE SOME TYPE OF A GREEN SPACE.
UM, UH, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WATER STREET, WE KIND OF HAVE TO VISUALIZE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE TRESTLE IS THERE ALSO, UM, FOR THAT PUBLIC SPACE.
BUT WOULD WE ALLOW, AS AN EXAMPLE, UM, JUST LIKE LITTLE, UM, POP-UP CARTS, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY WANTS TO DO THAT.
I MEAN, SO HOW'S THAT GONNA FIT IN HERE? OR IS IT SOMEBODY THAT HAS A BUILDING OR CAN WE DO IT WITH SOMEBODY THAT DOESN'T HAVE A BUILDING BUT HAS A POPUP? UM, AND YOU KNOW, HOW COULD THEY USE WATER STREET FOR IT? I GO DOWN TO WATER STREET A LOT AND I DO FEEL AS THOUGH THE PUBLIC ASPECT HAS BEEN REALLY CHOKED DOWN.
IT'S REALLY HARD TO EVEN RIDE YOUR BIKE FROM ONE AREA TO THE OTHER WHEN THE TENTS ARE THERE BECAUSE THEY'RE SO LARGE.
AND I JUST THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT, UM, PUBLIC SPACE, NOT JUST A PARKLETS, BUT HOW THE PUBLIC SPACE IS GONNA BE UTILIZED SO THE PUBLIC CAN ACTUALLY WALK AROUND.
I THINK, UM, THE VALUE OF PARKLETS AND OUTDOOR DINING IS I CAN BRING MY DOG AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DO TRAVEL AND THEY BRING THEIR ANIMALS AND THEY NEED A SPACE TO, UM, BRING THEIR ANIMALS.
UM, AND I DO THINK WE CAN GET A LOT MORE CREATIVE ON WHAT THESE PARKLETS ARE, BUT I THINK THE SIZE CAN BE PROBLEMATIC IF YOU HAVE ONE BUSINESS DOWNTOWN, AND IT IS ME, PUEBLO, THEY HAVE TABLES ON THE STREET AND THEN THEY HAVE A PARKLET AND THEN THEY HAVE THEIR RESTAURANT INT IN TOWN, YOU KNOW, IN INSIDE THE BUILDING AND SOMEBODY'S PAYING FOR THAT.
I MEAN, THEY'RE MAKING MONEY ON THIS AND I THINK THAT WE SHOULD RECOUP.
AND I DON'T REALLY LIKE TO SEE IF YOU HAVE A PARKLET AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'RE NOW USING THIS STREET ALSO, OR THE SIDEWALK, EXCUSE ME.
I MEAN, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT'S REALLY IMPEDING.
UM, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT NUMBER WOULD BE.
AND SO I DON'T, I'M NOT GONNA COMMENT ON THAT 'CAUSE I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW, UNDERSTAND WHAT, UM, OR KNOW WHAT NUMBER TO SAY.
UM, AND, AND I JUST DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE EXCLUSIVE USE UNLESS YOU'RE, YOU'RE PAYING FOR EXCLUSIVE USE.
BUT I'LL PROBABLY HAVE MORE AS WE GO ALONG.
AND LET ME LOOK AT MY NOTES REAL QUICK.
UM, AND AS FAR AS THE EAST AND WEST SIDE, I MEAN THE DIFFERENCE IS, UM, A LOT OF THE SHOPPING CENTERS, I MEAN THE SHOPPING CENTERS HAVE TO HAVE GUIDELINES IF THEY CHOSE TO DO SOMETHING OR HOW DOES IT WORK WHEN IT'S PRIVATE? SO GENERAL, GENERALLY A PROJECT WILL GET APPROVED.
UM, THE SITE PLAN ITSELF WOULD GET APPROVED.
SO IT WOULD IDENTIFY, UM, IF THERE'S ANY LIKE CAFE SEATING OUTSIDE OF, LET'S SAY PAN EXPRESS, UM, UM, ON THE EAST SIDE.
UM, AND SO TYPICALLY THAT GETS APPROVED AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION LEVEL WHEN IT GETS THROUGH SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW.
AND THEN ANY MODIFICATIONS, UNLESS WHAT WAS APPROVED ORIGINALLY, UM, ALLOWED FOR SOME FLEXIBILITY, IT WOULD REQUIRE, UM, A RESUBMITTAL OF A SPAR.
UM, AND THAT'S AGAIN, TO MAKE SURE THAT IF YOU'RE LOSING 20 PARKING SPACES AND YOU WERE APPROVED TO ACCOMMODATE 250 PARKING SPACES, UM,
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YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LITTLE OVERSIGHT THAT THE CITY IS PROVIDING JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A BALANCE.WELL, I, I REALLY HOPE IN THESE, UM, SHOPPING CENTERS THAT ARE OVER PARKED THAT MAYBE WE CAN GET SOME HOUSING IN THERE INSTEAD OF PARKLETS.
I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER ECONOMICALLY.
UM, THERE WAS ONE OTHER THING.
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE DOWN IN WATER STREET AND HERE WE PUT THESE UM, UM, CHEST TABLES AND YOU'RE OUT IN THE HEAT.
AND SO I THINK THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT PROJECTS, WE DO NEED TO LOOK AT SHADING AND WE NEED TO LOOK AT MORE BENCHES SO PEOPLE CAN SIT.
IT'S NOT JUST FOR ME ABOUT PARKLETS, IT'S ABOUT REALLY ACCOMMODATING PEOPLE, UM, SO THEY CAN SIT IF THEY NEED TO.
'CAUSE WE ARE AN AGING COMMUNITY.
UM, AND I THINK THAT'S ALL OF MY COMMENTS FOR NOW, BUT WE DEFINITELY NEED BIKE PARKING IN DOWNTOWN.
AND IF WE'RE GONNA BE PUTTING A PARKLET AND WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE BIKE PARKING, EVEN THOUGH PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT PEOPLE DO BIKE, WE REALLY DO.
AND SO IT'S DIFFICULT TO GO DOWNTOWN AND SHOP.
AND I DO WANNA SAY, I KNOW, UM, II'S IN THE AUDIENCE AND IF I'M NOT PARKED CLOSE AND I BUY SOMETHING THAT IS WAY TOO HEAVY AND I CAN'T GET TO MY CAR, THEY ALWAYS COME OUT TO MY CAR AND PUT IT IN THE CAR.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE MAKE ARRANGEMENTS THAT I'LL JUST DRIVE OVER AND THEN THEY CAN PUT IT IN IF I'M DRIVING.
AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY ACCOMMODATE, UM, THOSE NEEDS BECAUSE THERE WAS A TIME IN PETALUMA WHEN EVERYBODY THOUGHT YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO PARK IN FRONT OF THE STORE THAT YOU WERE GOING TO, AND THOSE DAYS ARE KIND OF OVER.
AND SO JUST ACCOMMODATIONS LIKE THAT, UM, THE MERCHANTS, UM, DO IS VERY MUCH APPRECIATED.
OKAY, I'M, UH, UM, JUST STARTING OFF SAYING, I, I BELIEVE PARKLETS ARE GONNA BE A HUGE ECONOMIC ADVANTAGE TO US TO KEEP THAT GOING.
THE PUBLIC REALLY WANTS SOME, UH, PUBLIC LIKES TO EAT OUTDOORS PARTICULARLY.
UM, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT WE'VE DONE SO FAR FOR COVID, WE HAD, IT SAID WE HAD LIKE 30 OR PLUS PARKLETS AND WE HAVE WHAT, 13 NOW.
SO THE VIABILITY OF HAVING, UH, JUST THE BUSINESS FORMAT, BEING ABLE TO SERVE TABLES OUTSIDE AND PEOPLE WANT TO ENJOY OUTSIDE, YOU GO TO MARY'S PIZZA AND THERE'S ALWAYS SOMEONE EATING OUTSIDE.
UM, YOU GO TO SOME OF THE OTHER SHOPS IN THE SHOPPING CENTERS THAT HAVE TABLES OUTSIDE AND IF IT'S NIGHT EVEN, EXCEPT WHEN IT'S RAINING, THERE'S ALWAYS SOMEBODY OUTSIDE EATING, UM, THE FOOD OUTSIDE.
SO WE DEFINITELY HAVE A STRONG DESIRE TO BE ABLE TO SOCIALIZE OUTSIDE, UH, SOME OF THE THINGS TO BE AWARE OF.
UM, I WENT TO UM, UH, UH, FOLKS IN, IN A FORESTRY SEMINAR AND THEY TALKED ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF SHADE AND HOW MUCH SHADE CAN BENEFIT US PHYSICALLY, UM, OF AGAINST THE, THE RISE IN HEAT.
AND WE'RE ALREADY PREDICTING THE SUMMER TO BEING THE HOTTEST ON RECORD AS WAS LAST SUMMER.
AND THIS IS EVEN GONNA BE HOTTER IS WHAT THE PREDICTION IS.
SO WE'RE GONNA SEE A LOT MORE HOT DAYS, WELL 90 EVEN A HUNDRED DEGREES, UH, PRETTY CONSISTENTLY.
AND IT TURNS OUT THAT SHADE STRUCTURES, INCLUDING BUILDINGS, PROVIDE MORE HEAT, UH, RELIEF FROM HEAT STRESS THAN DO EVEN TREES.
SO, UH, TREES DO A GOOD JOB, BUT MAYBE ONLY 50% OF WHAT AN ACTUAL SHADE STRUCTURE DOES.
AND SHADE STRUCTURES ARE DIFFERENT BETWEEN WHAT PROTECTS YOU FROM RAIN THAN WHAT PROTECTS YOU FROM THE SUN.
SO SOME ARE DESIGNED MORE FOR SUN AND SOME ARE DESIGNED MORE FOR KEEP THE RAIN OFF OF YOU AND THE FOG.
SO, UM, WE WANNA LOOK AT IF WE'RE GONNA DO DESIGN TO ACTUALLY SAY, OKAY, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO, UM, AND HERE WE'RE GETTING TO THE PERMANENCY, SEMI-PERMANENT OR TEMPORARY SITUATIONS.
SO IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
SO IF IT'S ONLY GONNA BE THERE FOR A WEEK, TEMPORARIES IS ONE THING, BUT IT'S GONNA BE MORE EVEN SEASONAL.
UH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, SEMI-PERMANENT LEVEL.
AND IF THEY'RE GONNA BE YEAR ROUND STILL, I WOULD SAY WE NEED TO MAKE IT SEMI-PERMANENT.
'CAUSE THEY HAVE TO COME OFF THE, THEY GOTTA BUILD THE ROAD AND REPAIR THE ROAD AT SOME POINT IN TIME.
SO IT'S GOTTA COME OFF THE ROAD, REPAIR THE ROAD, PUT IT BACK.
SO I THINK EVERYTHING YOU SHOWED US IN THE SLIDE DECK THAT'S IN THE, UM, THE GUIDEBOOK THAT YOU SENT US, THE WORKBOOK, UM, THEY WERE ALL ESSENTIALLY SEMI-PERMANENT.
THEY WERE ALL ON THE STREET, BUT THEY WERE ABLE TO BE REMOVED.
UM, EVEN ALL THE CONNECTIONS THAT WERE MADE BETWEEN ALL THE RAILINGS AND EVERYTHING, UM, COULD BE DISMANTLED PRETTY EASILY AND THEN BROUGHT OFF, FIX THE STREET, PUT IT ALL BACK.
SO THAT, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANNA DO IS MAKE SURE THAT THE DESIGN ELEMENT INCLUDES A SEMI-PERMANENT STYLE AS WELL AS SAFETY.
AND THEN WHEN I GET TO SAFETY, OF COURSE WE, WE, WE FOR SURE ARE TALKING ABOUT SAFETY FROM, UH, PEOPLE GETTING HIT BY CARS IF THEY'RE GONNA BE ANYWHERE IN THE STREET.
SO NOT ALL THAT COVERED, BUT WE NEED TO COVER ALL
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THE OTHER SAFETY ISSUES TOO.WHAT WAS BROUGHT UP ABOUT, UM, ALCOHOL AND SOCIAL SAFETY ALSO, UH, NEEDS TO BE INCLUDED.
AND I THINK IF, IF THERE'S, IT'S REALLY GOOD THAT, LET'S SAY RAYS, WHICH HAS ALCOHOLIC DRINKS AND IT'S VERY POPULAR AND IT'S, AND IT'S SO POPULAR, IT'S BEEN EXTREMELY SUCCESSFUL.
HOWEVER, EVERYONE, IT GETS A LITTLE BIT ABUSIVE OF THE PRIVILEGE.
AND IN PUBLIC DRINKING OUTSIDE ON THE SIDEWALK, THAT'S BASICALLY ILLEGAL.
I THINK, RIGHT? SO, UM, THAT HAS TO BE MANAGED BETTER IF WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW, UH, ALCOHOL, ESPECIALLY IN THE EVENINGS, UM, THAT IT DOESN'T TURN INTO A BIG STREET PARTY AT EVERY ONE OF THESE ESTABLISHMENTS.
SO THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT ARE STRINGENT AND REGULATED AND ENFORCED, UH, WHEN WE DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, SINCE WE DID ALL THIS, MOSTLY BECAUSE OF COVID AND TO SURVIVE THE BUSINESSES, WE BASICALLY ALMOST LIKE FREE REIN, FREESTYLE.
I MEAN, BASICALLY WE HELPED 'EM OUT.
WE BOUGHT 'EM TENTS AND DID ALL THAT.
BUT BASICALLY, NOW THAT COVID IS OVER, IT'S BASICALLY A, A PRIVATE TAKING OF PUBLIC LAND IS WHAT THEY HAVE.
SO YES, THERE NEEDS TO BE FEES SINCE THEY'RE TAKING PUBLIC LAND, AND WE NEED TO MAKE 'EM SAFE.
SO, AS YOU SAID, UM, EVENNESS OF PAVEMENT NEEDS TO BE INCLUDED IN THE DESIGNS IF WE'RE GONNA DO THIS.
UM, I DON'T SIT OUTSIDE OF, UM, ON WATER STREET BECAUSE I WATCH THE SERVERS TRY TO WALK ACROSS THE COBBLESTONES, AND I'M AFRAID THEY'RE GONNA TRIP AND FALL OR BREAK THE SPRAIN THEIR ANKLES.
MY WIFE WON'T WALK IN THE COBBLESTONES AT ALL.
IT'S TOO, SHE, SHE, SHE'S HURT HERSELF EVERY TIME SHE GOES.
'CAUSE SHE SPRAINS AN ANKLE EVERY TIME SHE WALKS INTO COBBLE STONES.
SO, UM, IF THEY'RE GONNA DO THAT, IT NEEDS TO BE A SEMI-PERMANENT, AND THOSE COBBLESTONES BETTER BE COVERED AND MADE TOTALLY FLAT.
IF THEY'RE GONNA DO THAT AND, AND NOT HAVE THE COBBLESTONES THERE, YOU REMOVE AND REPLACE OR COVER 'EM UP ENTIRELY, UM, AND MAKE EVERYTHING LEVEL.
UM, ME, PUEBLO, UM, UH, I DID HEAR COMPLAINTS THAT, YEAH, IT, IT, IT GOT EXPANDED WAY TOO LONG AND STARTED IMPINGING ON THE NEXT DOOR BUSINESS.
AND YEAH, STORE WHEN YOU'RE IN FRONT, AND IF YOU GO TO FRANCE AND ANYWHERE, THEY'RE ALWAYS IN FRONT OF THE STORE AND NOT EXPANDING BEYOND, AND, AND THEY'RE, AND THEY'RE SIDE BY SIDE.
THERE'S 10 RESTAURANTS IN A ROW, BAM, BAM, BAM, RIGHT? YOU WALK BY 'EM, AND THIS COULD BE 10 RESTAURANTS STRAIGHT IN A ROW, RIGHT DOWN THE BLOCK.
SO, UH, DENSITY IS, IS NOT THAT MUCH OF A CONCERN IF THERE'S THREE OR FOUR IN A ROW.
UM, WHEN IT COMES TO PARKING, UM, THERE'S SO MUCH.
WHEN PARADES HAPPEN, WE CLOSE DOWN KENTUCKY STREET ENTIRELY.
10,000 VISITORS SHOW UP, AND THEY ALL SEEM TO FIND A PARKING SPACE, AND THEY ALL SEEM TO BE ABLE TO WALK DOWNTOWN THERE.
SO I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT PARKING DOWNTOWN.
IF WE CAN HAVE, UM, HUGE PARADES WITH 30, 40,000 PEOPLE SHOWING UP ALL ARRIVING ON, ON A COMPLETELY PARK LESS STREET, UH, NO CARS PARKED ON IT.
SO THEY CAN'T, WE, THERE CAN'T BE A REAL PROBLEM.
UM, UH, IF, 'CAUSE FOLKS ARE WILLING TO, WHEN IT COMES TO THAT, THEY WILL WALK THE THREE BLOCKS TO GET THERE AND FOLKS WILL EVEN WALK UP THE HALF, HALF MILE, UH, IN THOSE SITUATIONS.
BUT, BUT THERE'S ALWAYS PARKING WITHIN THREE BLOCKS OF, OF KENTUCKY THERE IS WALKING, AND IF WE PUT MORE, UH, HANDICAP SPOTS INSTEAD, AND SOME OF THE PARKLETS WOULD BE FOR HANDICAP AND FOR BIKING, BRING MORE PEOPLE IN BECAUSE THEY CAN PARK THE HANDICAP IN PARK AND THE BICYCLISTS.
I DO NOT TAKE MY BICYCLE DOWNTOWN.
MOST OF THE TIME I CAN, AND I HAVE, AND MY FEAR BECAUSE I HAVE ELECTRIC BIKE, AND THAT'S THE BIGGEST THEFT ITEM NOW THAT'S, THAT'S ON THE MARKET RIGHT NOW, THAT, UH, THERE'S PEOPLE THAT GO AROUND WITH VANS, THEY WA THEY ACTUALLY FOLLOW ELECTRIC BIKE, WATCH THE ELECTRIC BIKE BE PARKED WHEREVER IT IS, AND IN 30 SECONDS IT'S GONE.
UM, THERE'S ACTUALLY PROFESSIONALS THAT DO THAT NOW.
SO I DON'T GO DOWNTOWN TO PARK MY 'CAUSE I HAVE NO PLACE TO PARK MY BIKE BASICALLY, THAT I FEEL SAFE.
UH, SO WE NEED SAFE PARKING WITH SECURITY CAMERAS FOR THE BICYCLES.
UH, 'CAUSE IT'S EASY, EASY THEFT ITEM.
UH, IT DOESN'T TAKE MUCH TO, TO TAKE ONE AWAY.
THEY GOT TORCHES, THEY'VE GOT CHAIN LOCKS.
I MEAN, UH, LOCK, THEY GOT EVERYTHING THEY NEED TO, TO REMOVE WITHIN 30 SECONDS.
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT LOCK YOU HAVE.
UM, OKAY, SO THAT'S JUST A FEW THINGS.
UH, I TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SEMI PERMANENCY.
UM, WE NEED TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPANSIVE IN OPPORTUNITY TO ALLOW THE PUBLIC TO SAVE, BE MORE CREATIVE, LET'S ARTISTS REALLY COME OUT AND SAY, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE, WHAT'S POSSIBLE.
I KNOW THAT, THAT, UH, SAXON FIFTH AVENUE, THEY ALWAYS HAVE FURNITURE AND STUFF OUT IN FRONT ON THEIR SIDEWALK, BUT THEY SHOULD STILL WALK BY PLENTY OF SPACE.
BUT THEY PUT IT OUT APPROPRIATELY.
AND IT'S AMAZING HOW MANY FOLKS WILL STOP BY AND, AND LOOK AT THAT.
AND, AND THAT SEEMS TO BE SNATCHED UP MORE QUICKLY THAN WHAT HAPPENS INSIDE THE STORE.
UH, YOU GO TO A BEACH FRONT, UH, SOMEWHERE, AND SO YOU GO TO A BEACH TOWN AND ALL THE SHOPS, ALL THE BEACH WEARS IS IN FRONT OF THE SHOPS AND EVERYTHING.
IT'S ALL, THESE ARE ALL THE STUFF THAT'S ON CLEARANCE.
IF YOU DON'T WANT THAT, WE'LL COME IN AND PERSONALLY FIT YOU.
COME ON THE DOOR AND, AND WE'LL FIT YOU.
SO, UH, THERE'S A HUGE AMOUNT OF RE RETAIL HAPPENING IN BEACH STOREFRONTS.
SO WE NEED, WE HAVEN'T LEARNED HOW TO DO THAT HERE 'CAUSE THEY ALL DISAPPEARED ON US, OR WE DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT SPACE.
OR THAT TAKES TWO PEOPLE, ONE OUTSIDE TO LOOK VERSUS INSIDE.
SO WE NEED TO DEVELOP THOSE SYSTEMS WITH THE BUSINESSES.
WE NEED TO HEAR MORE ABOUT CAN THE BUSINESSES DO THAT? WE NEED TO BE, HAVE
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MORE INPUT FROM THE BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN PARTICULARLY, UM, CAN THEY, CAN THEY MANAGE THAT BETTER? HOW COULD WE HELP THEM MANAGE THAT BETTER? WE NEED TO, UM, UH, BESIDES, UH, THE, THE, IN THE DOCUMENT THAT YOU GAVE US, YOU HAD A LOT MORE THAN JUST RESTAURANTS PICTURED IN THERE.YOU HAD HUGE AMOUNT OF PARKS, CITY TYPE PARKS, PARKS THAT, THAT PEOPLE PUT IN FRONT JUST TO GET PEOPLE IN FRONT OF THEM.
UH, SENIOR THERE WAS SENIOR EXERCISE.
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE NEED FOR SENIOR EXERCISE PLACES, AND THERE WERE SEVERAL EXAMPLES THAT WERE SHOWN IN, IN, IN WHAT YOU GAVE US IN, IN THAT, THAT SLIDE DECK, EVERYTHING.
SO, UH, PUTTING IN, UH, THIS IS WHERE THE CITY WOULD HAVE MORE THINGS THAT, THAT THEY WOULD DO JUST THEMSELVES IN A COUPLE PARKING SPACES HERE AND THERE.
BESIDES THE, BESIDES THE BIKES, UM, WE, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT RESIDENTIAL A LITTLE BIT.
TALK ABOUT THE COBBLESTONES, UH, FEES.
AND IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE RESTAURANTS THAT MAKE GOOD MONEY NOW BOTH INDOORS AND OUTDOORS, THE OUTDOOR SPACE, IF THEY'RE GETTING AS MUCH BUSINESS OR EVEN MORE BUSINESS OUTDOORS THAN THEY'RE INDOORS BUSINESS, WHY ARE WE NOT RENTING THE SPACE AT THE SAME PRICE THAT THE INDOOR SPACE IS WORTH? SO IF IT'S GONNA BE A RESTAURANT MAKING GOOD BUSINESS, MAYBE A FEE STRUCTURE, MAYBE BASED ON TYPE OF BUSINESS OR TYPE OF SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT THEY USE.
LET'S, RESTAURANTS ARE GONNA BE THE BIGGEST MONEY MAKERS ON USING THE STREET.
SO THEY SHOULD BE CHARGED A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN MAYBE SOME OF THE OTHERS.
SO I'D SEE MAYBE A DIFFERENT FEE STRUCTURE BASED ON VOLUME OF DOLLARS, INCOME FROM THAT SPOT ALSO.
SO A BASE FEE PLUS SO MANY DOLLAR RETURN ON JUST LIKE WE HAVE THE TOT TAX SOMEHOW.
SO ADDING A TOT TAX FEE ON TOP OF A SMALL BASIC FEE MIGHT WORK REALLY WELL TO SHOW FINANCIAL.
SO WE'RE NOT TAKING ALL THE MONEY FROM EVERYBODY SO THAT WE HAVE INCENTIVE FOR FOLKS THAT ARE SMALL, YOU DOING SOMETHING SMALL.
BUT IF THEY'RE DOING A BIG THING, RESTAURANTS, WHICH IS A HUNDRED DOLLARS A MEAL FOR LUNCH NOW IS WHAT I'VE BEEN GOING TO LUNCHES SOMETIMES WITH A, WITH A COUPLE DRINKS, THE APPETIZERS LUNCH, THEY'RE ENDING UP EVEN LUNCHES NOW, MINIMUM OF $50.
AND, UH, AND FOR TWO PEOPLE, I'M SPENDING $70 FOR JUST FOR LUNCH AND UP TO $120 FOR DINNERS NOW.
SO WHEN YOU HAVE FOUR TABLES OUT THERE AND YOU'RE RUNNING THROUGH 20 OR 30, UH, TABLES PER, PER COUPLE OUT WITHIN A FEW HOURS, UM, THAT'S A BUNCH OF MONEY.
VERSUS SOMEONE THAT HAS A RACK OF CLOTHES THAT THEY SELL MAYBE FIVE ITEMS OUT OF THERE FOR $20 ON THEIR CLEARANCE SALE.
SO FEE STRUCTURE BASED ON VOLUME OF SALES THAT ARE BEING TO IT, JUST LIKE A TOT TAX WE MIGHT BE LOOKING INTO, AS WELL AS MAYBE A BASE PRICE FOR JUST SQUARE FOOTAGE BEING USED.
UM, UM, AGAIN, JUST BE MORE CREATIVE ON THINGS THAT WE COULD BE DOING.
UH, MINISTERIAL, I THINK IF YOU SET UP VERY GENERIC ON SAFETY THINGS, SO, SO MUCH BANISTERS FOR SAFETY, CLEARANCE FOR WALKING, CLEARANCE FOR PARKING, NO PARKING, BIG ORANGE UGLY THINGS.
THEY HAVE TO BE IN PART OF THE STRUCTURE ARCHITECTURALLY, UM, SHOULD BE DEMANDED ON THAT.
NO MORE OF THE, UM, UH, UH, STRUCTURES LIKE THAT TO, UH, FOR SAFETY.
SAFETY SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE DESIGN FEATURE.
AND ART NEEDS TO BE ABSOLUTE AND THEY ALL NEED TO BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
SO IT HAS TO BE AN ART ELEMENT OF SOME SORT AT ANY, AT SOME LEVEL, EVEN IF IT'S A VERY SIMPLE BENCH THAT'S ARTISTICALLY DONE, NOT JUST YOUR STANDARD BENCH STUCK AT FRONT.
UM, I TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SAFETY AS, AS WELL AS FOR THE, EVEN, ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S ALCOHOL IN THE FUTURE.
IF THERE'S MARIJUANA BEING ALLOWED ON THE STREET, UH, UH, SMOKING OR VAPING.
'CAUSE PEOPLE ARE VAPING NOW AND YOU CAN'T TELL WHAT, WHAT'S IN THAT VAPING, VAPING.
UM, SO THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME CONTROLS ON THAT SO IT'S NOT JUST SOME HUGE PARTY THAT JUST OVER SPILLS O OTHER PLACES.
SO MORE RULES, MAKE SURE THOSE ARE INCLUDED AS FAR AS VAPING, AS WELL AS ALCOHOL AND CONTROL OF, OF CROWD.
AND NUMBER OF PEOPLE, JUST LIKE WE DO FOR THE FIRE INDOORS SHOULD BE NUMBER OF PEOPLE OUTDOORS.
ALSO A LIMITATION, SAME NUMBER.
IT SHOULD BE LIMITED, LIMITED FOR SAME THING.
FIRE HAZARD, SAME THING WITH, WITH UH, UH, PEOPLE CONGESTED IN, IN AN AREA HAZARD.
UM, AND, UH, I'D LOVE TO SEE THE, THE, THAT THAT SLIDE DECK THAT YOU HAD THERE, I'D LIKE TO SEE IT ADVERTISED IN THE EMAIL THAT SENT OUT.
SAY, HEY FOLKS, HERE'S, HERE'S SOME IDEAS ABOUT PARKLETS.
WHAT DO YOU THINK? I THINK YOU JUST SHOULD PUBLISH THAT IN YOUR, IN THE EMAIL GOING OUT TO THE CITY.
AND I THINK, I THINK I GOT ALL THAT COVERED.
COUNCIL MEMBER HEALING YOUR NEXT UP.
OKAY, I HAVE A MERCIFULLY FEW NUMBER OF COMMENTS.
UM, ACTUALLY COUNCIL MEMBER SCH SHRIMP'S COMMENTS ABOUT, ABOUT ALCOHOL RAISED SOME QUESTIONS FOR ME, AND I DON'T WANT STAFF TO RESPOND TO THESE NOW, BUT, UM, I, I KNOW A, B, C MADE SOME TEMPORARY ACCOMMODATIONS DURING COVID AND I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE WOULD HAVE BEEN MADE PERMANENT, UH, IN THIS AREA OR NOT, OR WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE.
AND THEN THE, THE RELATED THING THERE IS, UM, IT SEEMS TO ME WE HAVE SOME PARKLETS WHERE THE RESTAURANTS HAVE BEER WINE LICENSES AND WE HAVE OTHER RESTAURANTS WITH PARKLETS THAT HAVE FULL LICENSES.
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AND THAT MIGHT BE A DISTINCTION THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO THINK ABOUT.UM, AND I DON'T WANT A STAFF RESPONSE NOW, BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU SHOULD GIVE US OPTIONS ON AND MORE INFORMATION ON BOTH THE A, B, C THING AND THE, AND WHERE, WHERE THEY'RE HEADED, WHERE THEY ARE NOW AND, AND WHAT WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE WILL BE IN THE FUTURE.
UM, I, I DO THINK THAT WHERE WE DO HAVE PARKLETS, UM, I THINK THEY, UH, SHOULD BE LOCATED ADJACENT TO OR IN FRONT OF THE BUSINESS THAT'S, THAT'S USING THEM.
THE ONE THAT KIND OF GAVE ME SOME HEARTBURN DURING COVID WAS THE ONE THAT WAS IN FRONT OF THE, UH, THE LIBRARY, THE MUSEUM, BECAUSE THAT WAS BUSINESSES ACROSS THE STREET KIND OF OUTSOURCING THEIR, THEIR PARKING AND ENCOURAGE ENCOURAGING JAYWALKING AND CREATING, UM, A PROBLEM FOR, UM, OUR, OUR CITY MUSEUM.
UM, AND THEN KIND OF RELATEDLY TO THAT, AND THIS IS MAYBE JUST IMPLICIT, BUT I THINK ALL OF THE PARKLETS THAT WE HAVE NOW, AND ALL THE ONES THAT WE'RE BEING TALKED ABOUT, I THINK INTENDED, UM, ARE RELATE TO AN EXISTING BRICK AND MORTAR, UM, RESTAURANT OR ESTABLISHMENT, AS OPPOSED TO HAVING SOMEONE PULLING UP A FOOD TRUCK OR A, A CART AND, AND THEN HAVING A PARKLET TO GO WITH THAT.
SO, I I, THAT, THAT, IF, IF THAT'S NOT EXPLICIT, IT SHOULD BE.
UM, I DO AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER NOW'S, UH, EARLIER QUESTIONS ABOUT NUMBER OF DAYS PER WEEK THAT OUR PARKLETS ARE BEING USED.
AND I THINK, UH, A BUSINESS THAT ONLY USES THEM FOUR DAYS A WEEK, I DON'T THINK THAT'S ADEQUATE.
AND I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A MINIMUM OF FIVE OR SIX DAYS A WEEK.
UM, I I I, I DO THINK THAT THE PROGRAM SHOULD BE MINISTERIAL EXCEPT WHERE THE PROPOSED PARKLET IS, UM, EITHER DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO OR WITHIN A VERY FEW NUMBER OF FEET OF AN EXISTING RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, IF, IF THAT ONE UP ON WA UM, WESTERN HAD COME TO US, WE MIGHT HAVE COME, COME TO A DIFFERENT CONCLUSION.
BUT THAT WAS HANDLED MINISTERIALLY AND I THINK THAT'S A TEACHABLE MOMENT FOR US THAT WE DON'T WANT TO CREATE THAT KIND OF A PROBLEM GOING FORWARD.
UM, AND THEN, AND, AND THERE MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, THE KIND OF THE DRIVEWAY IMPACTS OR THE PARKING IMPACTS ON THE ADJOINING RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD THAT, UH, I, I THINK THE, THE NEIGHBORS SHOULD BE ENTITLED TO BE HEARD.
UM, AND THEN LASTLY, I I DO THINK THAT, UM, WATER STREET DESERVES SPECIAL TREATMENT, AND I BELIEVE STAFF WAS, WAS INDICATING THAT, AND I THINK ESPECIALLY THE SEGMENT OF WATER STREET BETWEEN THE GOLDEN CONCOURSE AND, UM, AND THE BASHAW BRIDGE SHOULD BE GIVEN SPECIAL TREATMENT.
UM, ONE OF THE PRIMARY REASONS THAT THE BATHTUBS ART WAS NOT PLACED THERE WAS BECAUSE IT INTERFERED WITH THE ABILITY TO HAVE SPECIAL PUBLIC EVENTS THERE.
AND, AND YET NOW WE HAVE, UM, A MAJOR PARKLET THERE THAT DOES EXACTLY THE SAME THING.
AND, UM, I'D, I'D LIKE TO SEE IF THAT, THAT ONE CAN BE RELOCATED IN A WAY THAT IS LESS OBSTRUCTIVE TO, UM, TO PUBLIC EVENTS BEING HELD IN, IN THAT SPACE.
BECAUSE THAT WAS, I WAS ON THE COUNCIL WHEN WE SPENT ALL THE MONEY ON, ON ON THE COBBLESTONES AND JOHN, TELL YOUR WIFE, I ACTUALLY VOTED NO ON THAT.
UM, BUT, BUT THE INTENT OF THAT AT THE TIME WAS TO ALLOW SPECIAL EVENTS TO HAPPEN THERE AND IT'S NEVER REALLY LIVED UP TO ITS POTENTIAL.
AND, AND I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN AND, AND I'LL STOP THERE.
NOW, UM, TO SAVE TIME SINCE IT IS ALMOST 10 O'CLOCK, UM, I'M GONNA SAY THAT I DO AGREE WITH OTHER PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEMBERS.
UM, UM, THERE, THE ITEMS ON SAFETY BEING CREATED, BEING ARTISTIC, WATER STREET, HAVING MAYBE, UM, SPECIAL PRIVILEGES, UM, BECAUSE IT WAS DESIGNED, UM, DURING THE REDEVELOPMENT DAYS TO BE AN OUTDOOR DINING AREA, BUT ALSO, UM, FOR THESE COMMUNITY EVENTS AND ALSO THE BIKE THIEVES ARE REALLY, UM, OUT IN FORCE.
UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S A PROBLEM IN PETALUMA.
SO I AGREE WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
THE SMART STATION HAS LOCKERS AND SOME PEOPLE DON'T WANNA PAY FOR THOSE LOCKERS, SO THEY'RE LOCKING THEIR BIKES UP TO THE, TO THE BIKE RACKS AND THEY'RE GETTING STOLEN.
IT'S REALLY SAD, UM, BECAUSE THEY JUMP ON THE SMART TRAIN, THEY COME BACK TO PETALUMA, AND A LOT OF THE PEOPLE WHO, UM, COME TO PETALUMA ARE NOT FROM PETALUMA.
THEY'RE COMING TO ENJOY OUR HISTORIC DOWNTOWN, ENJOY OPEN HOUR DINING IN THE, IN THE THEATER DISTRICT.
AND THAT REDEVELOPMENT MONEY IN THOSE YEARS THAT WE HAD IT, AND WE PUT IN COBBLESTONE AND EGG PLANTERS THAT ALWAYS NEED HELP, UM, BEING BEAUTIFUL, BUT THEY, IT, IT ADDED THE OPEN AIR DINING.
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THAT WHEN I SAY TO SOMEONE, I, I DON'T WANNA MEET YOU IN A COFFEE SHOP, I WANNA BE OUTSIDE SO WE CAN LOOK AT PETALUMA.'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT I'M MEETING YOU ABOUT.
UM, ALSO, WE, UM, HAVE A WONDERFUL GROUP THAT COMES AROUND AND CLEANS UP THE SIDEWALKS.
NOW, UM, IS IT THE STREET COMMITTEE? DOWNTOWN STREET.
I'M FORGETTING WHAT THEY'RE CALLED.
BUT ANYWAY, IT'S A WONDERFUL, UM, PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY AND GETTING OUR SIDEWALKS CLEANED UP AND, AND YOU WOULD WANT TO EAT DOWN THERE IN OPEN AIR DINING.
I REALLY DON'T LIKE THE, UM, CLOSED OFF SOME OF THE, UM, IT'S IN A PRIVATE AREA PARKING LOT, BUT HALLEY'S, IT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE OF OPEN AIR, BUT IT'S ALSO GOT SOME SHADE STRUCTURES, BUT IT'S NOT CLOSED IN ON ALL FOUR SIDES.
SO, UM, IT'S REALLY ALWAYS POPULAR.
AND SO ANYWAY, THOSE ARE ALL MY COMMENTS.
UM, I AGREE WITH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLE, UH, WITH USE OF THE TERMS FLEXIBILITY AND, AND, AND, AND CREATIVENESS AND STUFF.
YOU KNOW, I REALLY THINK, UH, I LIKE TO SEE AS FEW RULES AS POSSIBLE TO, TO LIMIT STUFF LOCATION EVERYWHERE EVENTUALLY.
UM, DENSITY, I, I LIKE SOME OF THE STUFF IN THE LA DOCUMENT THAT HAS TO DO WITH, UM, UH, I THINK THINGS LIKE, UH, UM, BEFORE YOU, BEFORE YOU GO TO THE CITY, YOU, YOU HAVE THE APPROVAL OF YOUR FOUR CLOSEST NEIGHBORS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHETHER IT'S RESIDENTIAL OR WHETHER IT'S DOWNTOWN.
I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S GONNA SAVE DIFFICULTY LATER ON.
UM, UM, AND, AND MAYBE EVEN THE DENSITY GOES THAT YOU, YOU, YOU TALK TO THE TWO CLOSEST, UH, OTHER, UH, EXISTING PARKLETS, UH, AND SEE HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT, UH, ANOTHER ONE BETWEEN THEM.
UM, I DON'T, UH, KEEP THE PERMITS AS SIMPLY AS POSSIBLE.
UH, THE FEES I WOULD USE TO, UH, YOU KNOW, REALLY PUT THE, THE FEE PRICE UP ON SOMEONE THAT WANTS A TOTALLY PRIVATE, PRIVATE, UH, UH, PARKLET, UM, OR IF YOU WILL, A RESTAURANT THAT WANTS IT TO BE PRIVATE.
UM, I'M NOT SURE HOW TO, HOW TO KEEP IT SIMPLE AND AND PRICE IT OTHER THAN THAT.
UM, YEAH, THE FEES, I MEAN, CERTAINLY LESS THAN A THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR, UH, FOR, UH, ONE THAT'S GOT SOME PUBLIC BENEFIT.
AND, UH, AND MAYBE GOING ABOVE THAT, UH, BEYOND THREE TO SIX MONTH TRANSITION PERIOD.
UH, I, I THINK THE DESIGN RULES, YOU KNOW, UH, REALLY, UM, YOU CAN'T INFRINGE ON THE, UH, AUTOMOBILE LANE THAT'S, THAT'S RIGHT THERE.
AND YOU CAN'T INFRINGE ON THE, ON THE, UH, SIDEWALK, UH, TO KEEP PEOPLE WHO HAVE DISABILITIES AND SUCH FROM GETTING WHERE THEY NEED TO GO.
UM, AND, UM, I, I THINK YOU GOTTA HAVE SHADE IF YOU'RE GONNA, IF YOU'RE GONNA BE SERVING LUNCH, MAYBE NOT OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF, UH, THAT, UM, SO, UH, BUT I THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT CAN BE, UH, THAT I DON'T KNOW, MINISTERIAL WITH, UH, WITH, UH, GOOD, GOOD, GOOD ATTENTION PAID TO THE NEIGHBORS.
UM, I LOVE ALL, EVERYTHING WE'RE HEARING TONIGHT.
I HOPE YOU'RE GONNA LOOK AT THE RECORDING, NOT TO COUNT ON SIMPLE NOTES, BUT I MEAN, I, I DID LOVE, UH, UH, COUNCILMAN CATER THOMPSON'S COMMENT THAT WE SHOULD EXTEND PUTNAM, UH, PARK TO THE RIVER.
I HAD JUST AN OUTTA THE BOX IDEA.
I HADN'T, I HADN'T SEEN BEFORE, AND I'D RATHER SPEND MONEY ON THAT BEFORE SPENDING MONEY ON REMODELING THE EXISTING, PUT PUTNAM PARK.
I THINK VA THERE'S A VALUE ADD FOR FUTURE, UM, MEETINGS OR WHATEVER.
I'D LOVE TO HEAR, UM, HAVE MORE CONTEXT.
MAYBE I MISSED IT, UH, ABOUT THE PARKING U KELLER STREET PARKING UTILIZATION ALREADY, SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A PERSPECTIVE, UM, AND, UM, THE, UH, WHAT THE EXISTING PERCENTAGE OF LOST SPACES IS IN OUR CURRENT SITUATION.
UH, SO WE CAN COMPARE WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO SET A NEW STANDARD ON, ON THINGS.
UM, I ALSO DIDN'T KNOW THAT WE HAD A SIDEWALK DINING PROGRAM, UM, AND, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT GOVERNS, UM, CLOSED RACKS OR BICYCLE SALES ON STREETS NOW.
SO, UM, HOPEFULLY THEY ALL HAVE THE RIGHT KIND OF CLEARANCE, UH, REQUIREMENTS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
AND I CONCUR THE WATER STREET COBBLES ARE, UH, UH, FEATURE THAT DIDN'T, UM, MAKE THE GRADE.
BUT, UM, AND I ALSO DIDN'T KNOW THAT, UH, THE STOCKHOLM WAS A SHARED EXPERIENCE LEADING ME TO MY FIRST POINT ABOUT USE.
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IS GREAT.I MEAN, UH, YOU KNOW, SPECIFICALLY FOR UAAA VENDOR WHEN OPEN OR IF SHARED STATE SHARED SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW THEY'RE NOT GOING IN THE WRONG, I THINK SIGNAGE MAYBE IS THE KEY ANSWER THERE.
IT WHATEVER WE DECIDE THE USE IS, IT HAS TO BE CLEAR TO THE PUBLIC, NOT JUST THE PERMITEE.
UM, I LOVE THAT THIS IS JUST A THREE YEAR PROPOSAL.
UM, I'M, I'M OKAY WITH BEING ALL, ALL OVER, UH, STARTING WITH THE DOWNTOWN BID, BUT, UM, BUT IT WORRIES ME WHEN WE GET INTO A SITUATION LIKE RAY'S, UH, THERE HAS TO BE SOME SORT OF A, UM, IT'S NOT TURNING OUT LIKE WE WANT IT TO REVIEW PERIOD, UH, WHERE WE CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT.
UM, AND UH, WHEN I SAID BRI, UH, POPUP, I REALLY LIKED THE IDEAS OF, OF, UH, POPUP, BUT I MEANT THAT MORE IN THE TERM OF A, A TEMPORARY, THAT A, UH, OR SEASONAL FROM AN EXISTING BRICK AND MORTAR FRONTAGE, IT WAS NOT, IT HAD, DID NOT HAVE TO DO WITH INVITING NEW VENDORS IN, UM, UH, LIKE A TRUCK OR, OR LIKE AN INDEPENDENT STAND.
UM, I, I REALLY, UH, WORRY THAT, UM, UH, PERMITTING WILL BE CHALLENGING.
UH, I, I, I WANT STAFF TO HAVE EVERYTHING THEY NEED TO, TO, UM, DETAIL WHAT'S A GOOD MATERIAL, FIGURE OUT WHAT'S SAFE AND NOT SAFE, AND THOSE, THOSE ARE MATERIAL SAFETY, YOU KNOW, THINGS STICKING OUT IN THE LANE, STICKING OUT ON THE SIDEWALK, UM, NOT, UM, NOT THE, UH, SAFETY CAR HITS IT THING.
UM, SO, UM, AND I, UM, AND I DO LIKE THAT THE TRANSITION PERIOD FOR THE EXISTING FEATURES IS SIX MONTHS, THREE TO SIX MONTHS.
AND WITH THAT, THAT'S, IS, UH, IS THAT THE KIND OF FEEDBACK YOU NEED? DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE FEEDBACK OR DO YOU WANT, OR DO YOU WANT ANY MORE
I KNOW IT'S TRICKY DOING THIS MUCH PUBLIC, UH, INVOLVEMENT AND, UH, COMPETING INTEREST, IF YOU WILL.
AND I'D LIKE TO INVITE COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLE TO HAVE A COMMENT HERE.
YOU KNOW, ONE, ONE FINAL THOUGHT, UM, AS WE HEAD INTO THE RAINY SEASON, IF THE, IF THE PARKLETS ON WATER STREET ARE NOT GONNA BE USED AND THEY'RE JUST LIKE GONNA BE WALLED UP AND AND USED FOR STORAGE, I THINK THAT THEY SHOULD BE REMOVED AT THAT AT THAT POINT.
I, UH, I CONCUR WITH NON UTILIZATION SHOULD BE A BIG FACTOR.
AND I CONCUR WITH, UH, COUNCILMAN HEALY THAT FIVE DAYS IS KIND OF OUR MINIMUM LEVEL.
YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE A PARKLET IF YOU AREN'T THERE FIVE DAYS IN MY, BUT IT CAN BE PUBLIC USE, RIGHT? LIKE, I MEAN, I THINK THE BUS, IF A BUSINESS HAS IT, THE BUSINESS SHOULD, UH, HAVE ACTIVITY FIVE DAYS.
OKAY? NOT THAT I AGREE WITH THAT, BUT SOMETHING FOR US TO CONSIDER.
COUNCIL MCC THOMPSON, I'LL COMMENT ON THAT BECAUSE I MEAN, THAT'S WHEN YOU CAN UTILIZE IT, YOU KNOW, FOR PUBLIC SPACE, SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY UTILIZE IT FOR BOTH.
I MEAN, SO WE JUST NEED TO LOOK A LITTLE BIT BROADER BECAUSE I MEAN, THE ONE I REALLY DISLIKE IS ON PETA BOULEVARD, THE ONE AT DELLA.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST UGLY, IT'S NOT USED.
AND, AND, AND I WILL SAY SOMETIMES I QUESTION, IS THE BOULEVARD THE RIGHT PLACE, YOU KNOW, TO PUT MULTIPLE PARKLETS, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S DIFFERENT THAN OTHER FOURTH AND KENTUCKY STREET, RIGHT? AND FOUNDRY WHARF IN OTHER AREAS.
SO I, I'M, I'M OKAY IN THE MIDDLE.
I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT ALSO, I, I'M OKAY WITHIN IN THE MIDDLE OF WINTER, THE WATER, IF WE PICK UP THE WATER STREET ONES AND DON'T HAVE THEM, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE FOR PUBLIC USE IN THE MIDDLE OF WINTER MUCH TO ANYWAYS.
THAT CLOSES, THAT ITEM MOVES TO OUR, UH, LAST ITEM OF THE EVENING, WHICH IS A RESOLUTION TO APPROVE THE PROPOSED PROJECT LIST FOR FISCAL YEAR 2020 4 25 BY S SB ONE, THE ROAD REPAIR AND ACCOUNTABILITY ACT OF 2017.
IT'LL BE A LITTLE MINUTE TO SWITCH, UH, TEAMS AT THE PODIUM HERE.
AND I'D LIKE TO INVITE JET STUTSMAN STUTSMAN, OUR DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS, PUBLIC WORKS AND UTILITIES.
SO TELL US WHERE WE'RE GOING TONIGHT.
LET ME JUST GET THE POWERPOINT UP AND RUNNING.
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IT'S SHOWING, IS IT, IT'S THAT SHOWING? YEAH.OH, I WAS TRYING TO GET IT TO BE THE FULL, THE FULL THING, BUT JEFF, ARE YOU CLICKING PRESENTATION MODE IF YOU JUST HIT THAT ONE, RIGHT? I MEAN, I COULD RUN THROUGH IT LIKE THIS.
SO TONIGHT, UM, TONIGHT WE HAVE A PRESS STATION ON SB ONE, A PROPOSED PROJECT LIST.
SO I'LL JUST RUN THROUGH SOME OF OUR SLIDES.
UM, SO TYPICALLY WHEN WE REVIEW THE SB ONE PROJECT LIST, WE GO THROUGH A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF OUR PAVING PROJECT, OF OUR PAVING PROGRAM, AND WE TALK ABOUT THE BACKGROUND AND HOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE ARE.
THE PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX, ALSO KNOWN AS PCI, IS A REPORT CARD THAT WE USE FOR OUR ROADS.
IT IS USED TO INDICATE THE CONDITION OF OUR ROADWAY PAVEMENT ZERO INDICATING A POOR FAILED ROAD AND A HUNDRED BEING A BRAND NEW PAVED ROAD.
EACH ROAD HAS ITS OWN PCI AND THE CITYWIDE PCI IS AN AVERAGE OF ALL THOSE ROAD SEGMENTS COMBINED.
SO IN, IN PETALUMA, WE HAVE 177 CENTER LINE MILES A ROAD, WHICH EQUATES TO 393 LANE MILES.
THIS GRAPH SHOWN ON THE RIGHT, UM, SHOWS A PETALUMA PCI FROM 2021 TO CURRENT.
THE DASH BLUE LINE REPRESENTS THE PCI FOR THAT CURRENT YEAR, WHILE THE GREEN LINE REPRESENTS THE AVERAGE PCI FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS.
TYPICALLY WHEN YOU LOOK, YOU SEE DATA, ESPECIALLY FROM THE METROPOLITAN TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE COMMISSION, MTC, UM, WHICH PUBLISHES THIS DATA EVERY YEAR, THEY USE THIS THREE YEAR AVERAGE.
THE AVERAGE PIT IS PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT TAKES OUT THE PEAKS AND VALLEYS IN THESE GRAFT.
AND YOU SEE YEAR TO YEAR, YOU, YOU TAKES OUT THE GRAFT FROM YEAR TO YEAR, AND IT IS A MORE CONSISTENT TREND.
AND OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, THE INFUSION OF MEASURE U FOR THE FUNDING OF OUR STREET SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVED THE PAYMENT CONDITION.
AND WITH THE FUNDING AND WITH THAT FUNDING, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO PUSH OUR YEAR AVERAGE FROM 45 TO 52 A SEVEN POINT INCREASE.
AND THAT THAT GRAPH REALLY SHOWS KIND OF THAT UPWARD TRAJECTORY THAT WE'VE HAD SINCE THE MEASURE U INCEPTION.
SO THERE ARE TWO, TWO TYPES OF PAVEMENT INVESTMENT STRATEGIES THAT WE TALK ABOUT.
PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE AND REHABILITATION.
PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE IS A COST-EFFECTIVE APPROACH TO EXTEND THE LIFE OF OUR ROADS HELPS SLOW THE RATE OF DETERIORATION.
AND SLURRY CEILING AND CRACK CEILING ARE PROBABLY THE MOST TWO COMMON PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE TECHNIQUES THAT WE USE IN THE CITY.
REHABILITATION IS A, IS REPAIRING THE EXISTING PAVEMENT TO RESET THE DETERIORATION PROCESS BY ADDING OR REPLACING MATERIALS WITHIN THAT PAVEMENT SECTION.
SO THE CURVE FOR THE RIGHT IS A COMMON PAVEMENT LIFECYCLE CURVE INDICATED BY THE BLACK LINE, WHERE OVER THE LIFE OF THE ROAD IN YEARS DETERIORATES.
AND THE PCI DECLINES FROM EXCELLENT CONDITION TO A POOR CONDITION.
WHAT MAKES THIS GRAPH SO POWERFUL IS THAT BY USING PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE TECHNIQUES LIKE SLURRY SEALING, WE CAN KEEP OUR GOOD ROADS IN GOOD CONDITION FOR A LONGER TIME WITH LESS INVESTMENT.
IF WE CAN COMPARE THESE TWO, THE GREEN DASH LINE, WHICH REPRESENTS THE SLURRY SEAL, WE CAN SLURRY SEAL OUR ROADS THREE TIMES COMPARED TO THE LINE THAT REPRESENTS THE REHABILITATION.
SO BY INVESTING $12 PER SQUARE YARD, WHICH WOULD BE EQUIVALENT TO THREE SORE
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SEALS, UM, WE MAINTAIN THE SIMILAR PCIS IF WE INVESTED $200 FOR REHABILITATION.SO THE IMPORTANT TAKEAWAY ON THIS IS THAT PAVING IS DOING THE RIGHT TREATMENT AT THE RIGHT TIME.
SO THIS IS WHY PCI IS SUCH A CRITICAL FACTOR IN THE TYPE OF STREET SELECTION WE DO, THE STREETS WE SELECT, AND THE TREATMENT THAT WE SELECT.
WE, EH, THE TREATMENT THAT WE DO AS WELL.
SO WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR CURRENT PLAN, WE CURRENTLY HAVE MARIA DRIVING CONSTRUCTION, RAINIER AVENUE AND HOWARD STREET IN 2025, CAWFIELD LANE, ST.
FRANCIS AND D STREET IN 2026, AND CASA GRANDE AND WEBSTER IN 27.
WE ALSO HAVE A YEARLY PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM, WHICH INCLUDES ARTERIALS, COLLECTORS AND RESIDENTIAL ROADS.
A PRIMARY FACTOR IN SELECTING THOSE PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE IS THE PCI OF THOSE ROADS AND THE TARGETING THE TREATMENT WITH THE ROADS WITH THE IDEAL CONDITION.
SAFETY IS ALSO A HUGE, HUGE FACTOR THAT GOES INTO THE SELECTION OF THOSE AS WHEN WE SLURRY STRIFE AND RETRIP ALLOWS US TO ENVISION STRIPING TO CALM TRAFFIC AND IMPROVE SAFETY.
TO KINDA SHOW YOU WHERE, WHERE WE'VE BEEN AND WHERE WE'RE GOING, WE CURRENTLY HAVE COMPLETED 16 MILES.
WE ARE COMPLETED OR COMPLETING 16 MILES OF BIKEWAY IMPROVEMENTS.
6.4 MILES HAVE BEEN COMPLETED WITH NORTH MCDOWELL, GARFIELD DRIVE AND PENO BOULEVARD SOUTH AND ANOTHER 9.8 MILES ARE COMING WITH UPCOMING PAVING PROJECTS, TRAFFIC CALLING TRAFFIC CALLING PROJECTS, AS WELL AS FUTURE QUICK BUILD PROJECTS.
AND TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE STUFF WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ABOUT BUDGET, THE SAFE STREETS NOMINATION LAUNCHED IN FALL OF 23 AND WE RECEIVED OVER 659 NOMINATIONS TO DATE, WHICH HAS BEEN RANKED BASED ON COLLISION HISTORY AND PROXIMITY TO PARKS AND SCHOOLS.
THE CIP BUDGET FOR 24 25 IS INCREASING FROM 423,000 TO 873,000.
THIS INCREASE WILL ALLOW US TO OBTAIN LOCAL GRANTS TO MATCH A SAFE STREETS FOR ALL GRANT APPLICATION THAT THE CITY HAS SUBMITTED IN CONJUNCTION WITH SCTA, THE SONOMA COUNTY TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY.
THIS APPLICATION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED TO SCTA, ALTHOUGH IT'S DUE AUGUST.
UM, THE GRANT APPLICATION WAS A QUICK BUILD PROPOSAL THAT WOULD INCLUDE QUICK BUILD PROJECTS, CITYWIDE, UM, TRYING TO TACKLE A LOT OF THOSE BIG, UM, BIG CORRIDORS THAT ARE NEEDED FOR TRAFFIC.
CALMING THE SAFE STREETS FOR ALL APPLICATION DOES REQUIRE A 20% MATCH.
SO THIS 423,000 WOULD MAKE A SUBSTANTIAL APPROACH TO BEING ABLE TO, TO LEVERAGE THAT MONEY AND BEING ABLE TO GET UPWARDS OF $2 MILLION ON A SAFE STREETS FOR ALL APPLICATION.
UM, AND FINALLY, KIND OF WHAT GETS US GETS US HERE TONIGHT IS, UM, TONIGHT'S RESOLUTION IS TO IMPROVE THE PROJECT LIST FOR FISCAL YEAR 24 25, FUNDED BY SB ONE, THE ROAD REPAIR AND ACCOUNTABILITY ACT OF 2017.
IN AN EFFORT TO PROMOTE ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENT TRANSPARENCY, THE CITIES MUST SUBMIT A PROPOSED PROJECT LIST ADOPTED BY THEIR COUNCIL AND SUBMITTED TO THIS CALIFORNIA TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE, THE CTC BY JULY 1ST OF EACH YEAR.
THE PROPOSED PROJECT LIST FOR NEXT YEAR INCLUDES MARIA DRIVE, HOWARD STREET, RAINIER AVENUE, AND A PAVEMENT PRESERVATION PROJECT, WHICH INCLUDES VARIOUS STREETS.
THE ESTIMATED FUNDS FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR THAT WOULD COME FROM SB ONE IS APPROXIMATELY ONE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS.
AND THAT IS THE QUICK OVERVIEW OF KIND OF OUR UPDATE TO OUR PAVING AND THE SB ONE LIST.
AND I BRING IT BACK TO THE COUNCIL FOR ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS.
AND WE ALSO HAVE BJORN ON THE LINE AS WELL IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS TOO.
UH, COUNCIL MEMBER CATER THOMPSON.
FIRST OF ALL, I'M REALLY GLAD THAT RAINIER IS GONNA BE COMPLETED.
UM, PEOPLE ARE HAVE WARMED UP TO IT AND RECOGNIZE THE VALUE BECAUSE OF ITS SAFETY, BUT WE'RE ALSO GOING TO GET THE PURPLE PIPE, UM, DOWN PAST MCDOWELL.
UM, IS CAULFIELD GONNA BE ON THIS LIST SOMEDAY AND WHAT THE PROCESS OR WHAT'S COFFEE? COFFEE 2026? IT IS, IT IS A GRANT FUNDED PROJECT.
SO WE ARE GETTING FUNDS THROUGH THAT, AND THAT WILL BE COFFEE FIELD FROM PAY RAN TO ELI, CAN YOU ROLL THAT SLIDE BACK AGAIN SO WE CAN ALL SEE WHAT'S IN THIS? YEP.
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NOW I GET, NOW I GET THE POWERPOINT RIGHT.UM, HOW ABOUT, UM, WASHINGTON STREET ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE OVERCROSSING? I MEAN, IT IS REALLY IN POOR SHAPE AND I REALIZE THAT'S CALTRANS, BUT WHEN'S CALTRANS GONNA COME TO THE TABLE? WE JUST GOT THE PLANS FOR THE CONSULTANT LAST WEEK, SO WE HOPE TO SUBMIT FOR THE CALTRANS ENCROACHMENT PERMIT HOPEFULLY NEXT WEEK IF ALL GOES WELL.
AND THE PLAN IS TO DO THAT AS A CHANGE ORDER TO THE MARIA PROJECT.
SO IT WILL BE DONE THIS YEAR, JUST KIND OF CONTINGENT ON APPROACH.
AND IS IT JUST THAT ONE SECTION RIGHT NOW? JUST THAT SECTION FROM OKAY.
WHERE THE CONCRETE BEGINS, ENDS TO THROUGH THE INTERSECTION.
PEOPLE WILL BE VERY HAPPY TO HEAR THAT.
OH, I DO HAVE, UM, A QUESTION ON, UM, RAINIER AND MARIA DRIVE.
I HAD MENTIONED A POSSIBLE LOOKING AT DOING A ROUNDABOUT BECAUSE YOU'RE SEEING, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF, UM, TIRE MARKS ON THE ROADS AND SO WHY IT'S BEING DONE.
COULD YOU LOOK AT THAT AND SEE IF IT'S A POSSIBILITY TO DO SOMETHING SO THAT DOESN'T CONTINUE? YEAH, NO, WE ARE CURRENTLY LOOKING AT A ROUNDABOUT.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF, OF TRYING TO FIT, FIT A ROUNDABOUT IN THAT INTERSECTION.
I THINK MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS, IS CURB RAMPS AND TRYING TO BE ABLE TO GET PEDESTRIANS SAFELY ACROSS THE ROAD WITH, WITH A ROUNDABOUT.
IT'S JUST KIND OF HARD TO FIT A ROUNDABOUT DESIGN INTO AN EXISTING SCENARIO, BUT IT WOULD HELP WITH A LOT OF THE, THE ISSUES WE HAVE ON RAINIER.
UM, OBVIOUSLY THE MULTI-LANE, THE TRUCK TRAFFIC THAT SHOULDN'T BE THERE.
UM, SO IT COULD BE A GOOD, A GOOD FIT.
AND I KNOW THAT I ASKED THIS MULTIPLE TIMES, BUT I DO IT BECAUSE I WANT YOU TO MAKE SURE I HEAR YOU HEAR
UM, ALL THESE STREETS MAKE SENSE.
THE ONE THAT I DON'T SEE ON HERE IS, UH, WESTERN, AND WE ARE, WE ARE WORKING ON THAT, THAT, UM, THESE WERE THE ONES THAT WE ARE CURRENT CURRENTLY HAVE IN, IN THE WORKS.
UM, SO AS, AS WE, WE KNOW THAT ONE'S OUT THERE, WE'RE GONNA START LOOKING AT THAT AS WE START TO BUILD OUT THAT FIVE YEAR PLAN.
BUT IT IS, IT IS ON THE, THE LIST TO, TO LOOK AT.
UM, I, I HAPPEN TO NOTICE THAT, UH, SOMETIMES YOU REFER TO FISCAL YEAR, SOMETIMES YOU REFER TO YEAR YEAR.
UM, IS THERE A DISTINCTION IN YOUR MIND? IT'S HARD WITH CONSTRUCTION.
UM, SO I TRY TO, FOR ME PERSONALLY, I TRY TO USE CONSTRUCTION YEARS OF, OF WHEN IT'S GONNA BE CALENDAR YEAR YEAH.
WHEN IT'S GONNA BE CONSTRUCTED.
BECAUSE HALF THE TIME YOU, YOU GET PROJECTS THAT ARE BUILT START WORK IN APRIL, WHICH IS PART AND THEN ENDS IN LATE.
SO YOU COVER IT AND SOMETIMES IT, IT'S CONFUSING.
SO WE CAN ASSUME THESE TO BE CALENDAR.
COUNCIL, UH, VICE MAYOR STRIPS.
ON THE, UM, YOU HAVE A COLOR CHART OF THE QUALITY OF THE ROADS.
UM, SO, AND MAYBE JUST LEAVE IT WITH THIS ONE HERE.
UM, AND JUST AS TWO QUESTIONS FOR LIKE, RELATED HERE.
UH, DO WE HAVE A MAP OF THE CITY ROADS BY THESE COLORS SO THAT, UH, WE CAN PARTICULARLY LOOK AT, UM, COMPARISON OF ROAD QUALITY VERSUS MAYBE THE ECONOMICS OF EACH SO THAT WE MAKE SURE WE'RE SERVING OUR, UM, FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN DISADVANTAGED? UM, SO DO WE HAVE A MAP LIKE THAT, THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY ANALYZE? YES.
SO AS PART OF, UM, MTCS AND METROPOLITAN TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION, THEY'RE THE ONES WHO DO THE, UM, PCI KIND OF AUDIT.
SO THEY COME EVERY TWO YEARS AND, AND REVISIT, CHECK THE STREETS AND COME UP WITH THE NEW NUMBERS AND GO THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT PUTS ALL THAT INTO STREET SAVER.
SO WHEN WE LOOK AT SAY, A PCI MAP OF THE CITY, IT'S GONNA SHOW, IT MAY NOT BE EXACTLY THOSE COLORS, BUT IT'LL SHOW GREEN BEING LIKE A ROAD BETWEEN SAY, 180.
IT'LL SHOW ROADS THAT ARE FAILED, THAT ARE MAYBE A DIFFERENT NUMBER IN A DIFFERENT COLOR.
SO WE DO HAVE, WE CAN PROVIDE THAT, THAT MAP THAT SHOWS THE COLORS OF THE STREETS AS IT RELATES TO PCI, UH, BEING ON THE EAST SIDE AND, UM, ESSENTIALLY LIKE, LIKE SAN FERNANDO LAYOUT, MOSTLY RESIDENTIAL.
SO WE HAVE ALL THESE RESIDENTIAL ROADS NOW THAT ARE DIFFERENT AGES, SOME THAT WERE BUILT IN THE SEVENTIES ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE, UH, NINETIES, EVEN TO 2010S, UH, FOR THE NEW AREAS.
SO, UM, WHEN I WALK AROUND OR ANYTHING, TALK TO FOLKS, IT'S ALWAYS ABOUT MY STREET.
WHEN ARE YOU GONNA DO MY STREET? SO IS THERE, UH, WITH, WITH THAT MAP THAT WAS BE THERE AS FAR AS SHOWING
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THE QUALITY OF EACH OF THE RESIDENTIAL ROADS, SO WHO MIGHT BE GETTING SERVICED FIRST AND, AND MAKE SURE WE'RE GETTING, TAKING CARE OF THE FOLKS THAT HAVE MAYBE DISADVANTAGED HIGHER PRIORITY.AND THEN THE SECOND PART OF THAT, UM, IF A NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, UH, LIKE OFF OF MARIA DRIVE, THERE'S A COUPLE ROADS THAT ARE ACTUALLY ALL CRACKED UP AND BREAKING UP.
UM, THEY SAID, WELL IF, IF THERE WAS A WAY THAT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD COULD FORM AS A UNIT AND SAY, OH, OKAY, JUST LIKE WE APPLY TO THE STATE FOR, OKAY, WE'VE PUT IN 10% OF THE MONEY, YOU GIVE US 90% OF THE MONEY, THEN WE, WE DO SOME WORK.
COULD A POPULATION ON A RESIDENTIAL STREET SAY, WE'LL COME UP WITH 10% OF THE MONEY OURSELVES, WE'RE APPLYING FOR A GRANT FROM YOU TO DO OUR STREET NEXT.
CAN YOU DO OURS NEXT? PLEASE? COULD A, UH, COULD A NEIGHBORHOOD GO DO THAT
THAT DEFINITELY, I'M SORRY, COULD YOU REPEAT THAT LAST BIT FOR ME? COUNCILMAN TRU
UH, JUST LIKE THE CITY APPLIES FOR GRANTS AND SAY WE'RE GONNA PUT UP 10 OR 20% OF, OF THE MONIES AND GO GET A GRANT FROM THE STATE, COULD A RES UH, COULD A A STREET, A RESIDENTIAL STREET GET TOGETHER AND SAY, WE'LL COME UP WITH 10 OR 20% OF THIS MONEY AND WE'LL, WE'LL CHARGE OURSELVES JUST LIKE WE DO WITH THE LEDS, UM, AND THEN, UH, PLEASE DO OUR STREET NEXT AND, AND, AND APPLY FOR A GRANT TO THE CITY TO PUT THEIRS THEIR STREET UP AND SAYING WE WE'RE WILLING TO PAY FOR IT IF, IF YOU GUYS DO IT.
SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF COMPLICATIONS THAT THAT RAISES.
UM, IT, IT WOULD DEPEND ON THE STREET.
IN PART THE, THE, WHAT I WANNA CONTRAST IN IN THAT IDEA, UM, WITH SAY LANDSCAPE AND LIGHTING ASSESSMENT DISTRICTS IS THOSE ARE, WHAT ARE THE, THE DISTRICTS ARE WHAT ARE CALLED SPECIAL BENEFIT DISTRICTS, MEANING THAT, UM, THEY SELF-ASSESS TO PAY THE COST OF PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS THAT BENEFIT THEIR PROPERTY SORT OF SPECIALLY AND UNIQUELY AND, UM, AS OPPOSED TO OTHERS IN THE CITY.
UM, AND EVEN WITH RESPECT TO THOSE DISTRICTS, UM, UNDER PROP TWO 18, UM, THEY NEED TO BE STRUCTURED SO THAT THOSE WITHIN THE DISTRICT, THEY GET GREATER BENEFIT, PAY MORE OF THE COST, ET CETERA.
SO IT, THAT APPROACH IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR, UM, GENERAL INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S USED BY, BY MANY RESIDENTS WITHOUT THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND IS DOESN'T HAVE PROPERTY SPECIFIC BENEFITS.
UM, AND I MEAN THE, WELL JUST LEAVE IT SAYS LED TYPE STRUCTURE, JUST THINK OF, OF OF, OF ASKING FOR A GRANT.
IT WAS COMING UP WITH A PERCENTAGE OF MONIES TO ASK FOR, UH, OUR, OUR STREET TO GET DONE.
I SEE A PARALLEL TO THE UNDERGROUND UTILITY DISTRICTS MORE.
WHERE IN UNDERGROUND UTILITY, IF YOU HAVE A SPECIAL BENEFIT, YOU WANT THE POWER DOWN ON YOUR STREET, YOU CAN FORM A LOCAL DISTRICT AND YOU CAN DO THAT THING.
YOU DON'T GET GRANTING BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE PUBLIC PRIORITY DOESN'T HAVE PUBLIC BENEFIT.
SO THAT IN AN ENGINEER'S REPORT ON THAT WOULD SAY THIS, THIS VALUE IS LOW FOR CITY MONIES AND CITY MONIES ARE ANY GRANT MONIES FROM OUTSIDE OF THE CITY IS CITY MONEY IS NOT DIRECT TO A SINGULAR STREET.
SO I, WELL, WELL, AND THEN THAT DOESN'T EVEN BEGIN TO GET INTO THE POLITICAL EQUITY KIND OF DISCUSSION.
PEOPLE WHO HAVE MONEY GET TO THE FRONT OF THE LINE.
I THINK YOU'RE MOVING TO A REAL TOXIC LEVEL HERE.
SO, YEAH, I JUST ASKING BECAUSE I'VE BEEN ASKED, SO I JUST THOUGHT I'D JUST FIND OUT FOR SURE.
AND NOT, I MEAN, CLEARLY THAT ENERGY ISN'T, I MEAN THE VICE MAYOR IS NOT PUTTING FOR THAT ENERGY, BUT IT COULD LEND ITSELF TO CONCERNS LIKE THAT.
AND ALSO YOU JUST, THE VERY NATURE OF THE ANALYSIS THAT, UM, THAT JEFF TALKED ABOUT OF, UM, MAKING SURE WE DON'T LET THE RECENTLY IMPROVED STREETS BECOME THE NEAR FUTURE BAD STREETS THAT ARE GONNA REQUIRE A HUGE OUTLAY, AGAIN, BY KEEPING THEM MAINTAINED, THAT THAT SHOWS THE CRITICALNESS OF, OF, OF TIMING OF THIS AND THAT THE CITY TRANSPARENTLY AND ACCOUNTABLY TO THE PUBLIC, BUT CONTROL THE TIMING OF THE OVERALL PROGRAM.
AND, AND IF, UM, PRIVATE FUNDING IS ABLE TO, TO, UM, SKIP AHEAD THAT CREATES THAT, THAT POTENTIAL PROBLEM TOO.
SO I, I THINK THERE'S A NUMBER OF ISSUES THERE.
UM, I MEAN MAYBE THERE'S SOME KIND OF FUNDRAISING COMPONENT THAT THAT COULD HAVE.
BUT ANOTHER QUESTION I WOULD PUT OUT THERE TO AS TO BE CONSIDERED, UM, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, THE MAYOR FREQUENTLY RAISES IS JUST THE, UM, JUST THE BANDWIDTH AS A WHOLE FOR DELIVERING THE CIP PROJECTS.
IT'S ALREADY, IT'S ALREADY STRAINED EVEN WITH ALL THE ADDED STAFF POSITIONS WE HAVE.
UM, EVEN RECOGNIZING THAT WE'RE NOT SELF PERFORMING THE WORK, WE'RE CONTRACTING FOR IT, BUT WE STILL HAVE TO MANAGE THOSE CONTRACTS AND IT TAKES A LOT OF WORK TO DO EFFECTIVELY AND AND ENSURE THAT
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WE DON'T HAVE, UM, COST OVERRUNS, UM, THAT THAT DIMINISH OUR ABILITY TO DELIVER, UM, THE, THE SUM OF PROJECTS WE WANT TO.SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THOSE ARE SOME OTHER, THERE'S A NUMBER OF FACTORS THAT, THAT, THAT QUESTION IMPLICATES RIGHT? THERE'S, BECAUSE I KNOW, UH, RELATIVES THAT LIVE MAYBE OUT IN THE COUNTRY THAT HAVE THE PRIVATE ROADS.
'CAUSE THERE'S A GROUP OF FOLKS, UM, THAT HAVE A PRIVATE ROAD AND THEY HAVE TO MAINTAIN IT THEMSELVES AND TAKE CARE OF IT THEMSELVES.
PUT ALL THE MONEY TOGETHER THEMSELVES.
SO THEY CAN DO THAT OUT IN THE COUNTRY SOME PLACES.
IS IT POSSIBLE TO DO THAT HERE IN THE CITY? THAT'S JUST A QUESTION THAT GOES, WAS IT RAISED UP? I I JUST SKIPPED THE ANSWER.
YES, IT'S POSSIBLE, BUT I I THINK HE WAS RHETORICAL ON.
I'M SORRY, I DON'T THINK THAT WAS A QUESTION.
RHETORICAL, I'LL JUST QUICKLY RAISE, I KNOW IT'S LATE AND WE'RE ALL TIME, BUT, UM, WE HAVE HAD, AND STILL DO HAVE PROBLEMS IN THE CITY, UH, RESULTING FROM, UM, PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE PRIVATELY FUNDED AND WERE TO BE PRIVATELY MAINTAINED 'CAUSE THAT HAS TO BE SECURED ADEQUATELY AND WHEN THEY FAIL, UH, OR WHEN THERE'S SOME TRANSACTIONAL FLAW OR SOMETHING LIKE WE'VE HAD IN SOME OF THE PAST MONTHS, NOW THAT WE DO THOSE IN THE PRESENT, UM, UH, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A PROBLEM, IT'S A PROBLEM.
MAINTAINING THOSE FACILITIES IS A PROBLEM OF COST IMPACTS.
IT CAN BE SAFETY PROBLEMS, ET CETERA.
SO THAT IS REALLY A MODEL OF, THAT'S REALLY SOMETHING THAT PETALUMA RELIED ON.
UM, PRE PRE-MEASURE U WHEN IT DIDN'T HAVE THE SAME FULL SERVICE, CITY COMMITMENT AND RESOURCES THAT IT HAS NOW.
UM, THERE ARE A LOT OF PROBLEMS THAT CAN COME FROM PRIVATELY PUN FUNDED PUBLIC FACILITIES.
I JUST WANNA KNOW, I CAN TELL MY NEIGHBORS NOT NOT TO GO THERE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, COUNCIL MEMBER NOW.
UM, THANK YOU JEFF FOR YOUR, UM, REPORT AND THE, UM, THE DEFINITION OF WHERE OUR STREETS ARE AND WHEN WE'RE GONNA SEE THEM FIXED.
MY CONCERN IS THERE ARE SOME STREETS LIKE IN MY DISTRICT THAT ARE DOWN TO LOOSE GRAVEL IN FRONT OF SCHOOLS, WHICH ARE ALSO BIKE ROUTES.
AND YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ONLY PATCH THEM SO MANY TIMES BEFORE THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE JUST DISINTEGRATING IT.
IT'S, IT'S LOOSE GRAVEL RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOL AND IT GOES FROM MCDOWELL ALL THE WAY DOWN PAST HALL FIELD, ST.
IT'S JUST GONNA CONTINUE DISINTEGRATING.
IT CANNOT DO ANOTHER WINTER AND BE SAFE FOR STUDENTS.
UM, AND THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN IN MY DISTRICT DOWNTOWN.
I HAVE BIG CONCERNS IF WE WANT PEOPLE TO WALK FROM A LONG DISTANCE BECAUSE THERE'S NO PARKING DOWNTOWN TO THE DOWNTOWN, THE KENTUCKY STREET, KELLER STREET, THOSE STREETS ARE ALL ALLIGATOR, THEY'RE ALL, UM, CHIPPING AWAY ON THE EDGES AND, UM, IT IS NOT SAFE.
SOMEONE'S GONNA BREAK AN ANKLE AND YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA COME BACK TO THE CITY.
SO I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT SOME OF THESE THAT ARE NOT ON THE LIST AND SOME OF THEM THAT ARE ON THE LIST FOR 2026 IN FRONT OF A SCHOOL.
SO TO FOLLOW ON, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER BURN NELL'S, UH, COMMENTS.
I SHARE HER CONCERNS WITH ABOUT THE SEC SECTION OF, UH, ST.
FRANCIS IN FRONT OF ME WALK ELEMENTARY.
IT'S, UM, BEYOND, UM, BEYOND BAD.
AND I WAS WONDERING IF STAFF COULD TELL US WHAT THE PCI INDEX FOR THAT ROAD SEGMENT IS, PLEASE? I DON'T KNOW THE PCI EXACTLY OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
IT'S SOMETHING I COULD LOOK UP AND GET TO YOU TOMORROW FOR SURE.
WELL, I I WANT TO, I'D LIKE TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION BEFORE WE VOTE ON THIS.
AND, UM, AND, AND MY, MY RELATED QUESTION IS WHAT ARE THE PCI INDEXES FOR THE FIVE ROAD SEGMENTS THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY CALLED OUT IN EXHIBIT A? UM, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IF, IF STAFF CAN PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TONIGHT, I THINK WE SHOULD CONTINUE THIS ITEM BECAUSE I THINK, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER NOW RAISES A VERY VALID POINT.
DOES THAT SOUND LIKE SOMETHING YOU CAN PULL OUTTA YOUR HAT RIGHT NOW? I DON'T, YES.
UM, WHILE YOU'RE FISHING FOR THAT, I'LL ASK, MAKE ONE OTHER COMMENT THAT, UH, WE, UM, UM, I I LOVE THE GIS TOOL.
UM, YOU CAN PUT IN AN ALGORITHM FOR ALL OF THE THINGS THE STAFF HAS LOOKED FOR AND COLOR CODE ALL YOUR MAPPING ACCORDING TO THAT PCI IS ONE IMPORTANT COLOR CODING MAPPING, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT I WOULD SHOW THE PUBLIC.
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WHATEVER THE MATRIX IS THAT YOU DECIDE THE ALGORITHM IS, YOU DECIDE PRIORITY PAVING.SO SCHOOL PROXIMITY SHOULD FACTOR IN.
AND SO, UH, THERE'S, THERE'S OTHER FACTORS THAT STAFF TAKES INTO ACCOUNT TO CREATE THE PRIORITY ON IT.
UM, AND WE CAN ASK FOR THAT COLOR CODING MAP AND, UM, AND THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE PRIORITY.
WHILE PCI CAN BE DRAMATIC AND YOU CAN HAVE A ZERO ON A CUL-DE-SAC, A ZERO ON A THOROUGHFARE W WOULD BE MORE IMPACTFUL.
SO, UH, IT HAVING THE ALGORITHM INCLUDE CAR COUNT, TRAFFIC COUNT, THAT KIND OF THING, UH, UM, THE ZEROS WOULD SEPARATE AND ONE WOULD BE A HIGHER RANK ZERO THAN THE OTHER FOR REPAIR.
UM, NOT THAT I WANNA SEE ANOTHER MAP WITH, UM, UH, COLOR CODED 'CAUSE IT GETS BLURRING AT SOME POINT.
BUT I THINK, UH, JEFF, WE'LL GIVE YOU A MINUTE FOR THAT AND WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT WHILE YOU'RE THERE.
AND SORRY MAYOR, EXCUSE ME IF I MAY ON ZOOM HERE.
UH, YOU'RE, YOU'RE ON BERG, UH, TRANSPORTATION PLANNER ON, ON ZOOM.
UM, JUST TO ADD TO THAT, UH, AROUND THE TIMING OF THESE PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, A MAJOR DRIVER FOR US TO TRY TO MAXIMIZE, UM, OUR FUNDING FOR THESE PAVING PROJECTS IS, IS THAT COORDINATION PIECE WITH UPCOMING UTILITY PROJECTS.
SO, UM, TO YOUR POINT, IT'S, IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT PCI, OF COURSE PCI IS A, IS A PRIMARY FACTOR THAT'S TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE ACTUAL TIMING OF THE PAVING PROJECTS, A LOT OF TIMES WE'RE LOOKING FOR THOSE OPPORTUNITIES TO PAIR THESE WITH UPCOMING UTILITY PROJECTS AND CLOSELY COORDINATING WITH OUR, UM, WITH OUR WATER AND SEWER PROJECTS BECAUSE THOSE ARE ABLE TO DELIVER, UM, ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO THESE PROJECTS.
FRANCIS, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE OPPORTUNITY THERE COMES THROUGH A, UM, WE HAVE AN UPCOMING WATER SERVICES REPLACEMENT PROJECT ON ST.
FRANCIS THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE, UH, IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET.
AND SO, UM, THAT WAS THE MAJOR DRIVER, UM, FOR THE TIMING OF THAT WORK.
WHAT IS THE TIMING OF THAT WORK? I BELIEVE THEY HAVE THE WATER SERVICES SHOWING, UM, IN FISCAL YEAR ENDING 26.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE SHOWING THE PAVING PROJECT IN 2026.
IT'S, IT'S THE WATER SERVICES FOR THAT CIP PROJECT COVERS, UH, REALLY THAT MUCH OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, SO NOT SURE ON THIS, BUT EXCUSE ME, I'M LOOKING AT EXHIBIT A, WHICH CONTAINS PAVEMENT RESTORATION PROJECTS FOR FY 25, 26 AND ST.
THAT MAY HAVE BEEN AN OVERSIGHT.
JEFF, IF YOU HAVE, IS IT A QUESTION OF FUNDING SOURCE? ARE THEY FUND ONE FUNDED FROM SB ONE AND ANOTHER FUNDED FROM WHICH ONE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT ST.
FRANCIS? UM, I THINK IT'LL JUST BE OVERSIGHT ON, ON MY PART.
WE'LL GO BACK AND LOOK AT WHAT ST.
WE WERE TO BJORN'S POINT TRYING TO MATCH UP, UM, UTILITY PROJECTS WITH, WITH PROJECTS AS KIND OF WAS SOMEONE INSINUATED ABOUT PROJECT SELECTION.
ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT WE ARE WORKING ON, UM, IS A PRIORITIZATION OF THESE PROJECTS, TRYING TO GET THEM PRIORITIZED.
I MEAN, YOU'VE ALL MENTIONED IT, LIKE WHY NOT THIS STREET? AND IT'S VERY HARD TO CHOOSE THAT STREET OVER ANY OTHER STREET BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL VERY SIMILAR AND THEY ALL HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE NEEDS AND WANTS.
SO AS, AS WE ARE MOVING FORWARD, WE ARE TRYING TO, TO CREATE SOME STANDARD PRIORITIZATION.
SOME OF THE THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT IS SAFETY, NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS, THE HIGH INJURY NETWORK, UM, LOCATION.
IF IT'S CLOSE TO A PARK, CLOSE TO A SCHOOL, UM, HOW DOES IT RATE ON THE TRAFFIC CALMING, HOW MANY COMPLAINTS HAVE WE GOTTEN? UM, ANOTHER ONE IS UTILITIES, LOOKING AT UTILITY PROJECTS, WATER SERVICES, WATER MAIN SEWER, SOME LIKE HOWARD WHERE WE HAVE ALL THREE, WHICH MAKES A VERY GOOD PROJECT BECAUSE IT IS PRIMARILY FUNDED BY UTILITIES.
BUT THEN WE COULD FOCUS KIND OF OUR STREET EFFORTS ON THOSE COMPLETE STREETS BILLS, LIKE CURB RAMP SIDEWALKS AND ALL THAT.
UM, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THERE'S KIND OF THE, WE WE CALL IT GEOGRAPHIC EQUITY OF LOOKING AT KIND OF THAT, THAT SPLIT TO TRY TO GET A BALANCED LOOK AT THE CITY WHOLE WIDE.
SO MORE TO COME ON THAT, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THE FUTURE WE'RE TRYING TO GET IT TO IS TO HAVE MORE OF A, A STANDARDIZED APPROACH THAT WE LOOK AT THESE AND VERY SIMILAR TO PCI, WE GET, UM, A RATING C CAN I CLARIFY? SO ARE, ARE THE STAFF SAYING THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO ADD, UM, ST.
FRANCIS TO THIS BEFORE IT GETS SUBMITTED TO THE STATE? ST.
FRANCIS IS, IS IN, HAS BEEN STARTED IN DESIGN.
UM, IT IS NOWHERE NEAR BEING CONSTRUCTION READY, SO WE WOULD NEED TO, RIGHT NOW THE FOCUS HAS BEEN HOWARD GETTING MARIA DONE, SO WE NEED TO RAMP UP ST.
FRANCIS, WHICH, WELL MY, YEAH, MY QUESTION WAS ABOUT FY 25 26 BECAUSE
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EXHIBIT A COVERS TWO YEARS.WE CAN'T ADD, ADD IT TO THIS, THIS LIST FOR SB ONE, UM, ALLOWS FOR DEFINITELY MODIFICATION.
I YOU TYPICALLY PUT IN THAT 25, 26 AS JUST KIND OF A MENTION IS NOT REQUIRED BY THE SPR ONE REQUIREMENTS.
I I IF WE CAN DO THAT TONIGHT, I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
AND IS THAT A THING YOU CAN DO TONIGHT? IS THAT WHAT WE'RE YEAH.
ARE WE MAKING AN AGREEMENT HERE? JUST TRYING TO CAPTURE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN QUESTION AND COMMITMENT HERE? YEAH, WE CAN, IF, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANNA MOVE FORWARD, UM, DO WE HAVE THAT KIND OF FLEXIBILITY I THINK IS WHAT I'M ADDING ASKING.
CAN I ADD SOMETHING MR. MAYER, PLEASE? UM, BEJO, YOU WERE AT THE MEETING WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT THE SAFE STREETS AT ME WALK SCHOOL AND IT WAS A POSSIBILITY OF POSSIBLY MAKING IT ONE OF THOSE GREENWAY STREETS TO MAKE IT EVEN SAFER.
HOW THAT'S WORK IN THE PROCESS.
YEAH, SO THAT'S THE APPROACH THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR TEAM IS TAKING, UM, IN, IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR, UM, COMPLETE STREETS POLICY AND A, AND A RESOLUTION THAT CITY COUNCIL, UM, ADOPTED YEARS AGO.
UM, WITH EVERY PAVING PROJECT WE'RE LOOKING AT MAXIMIZING THOSE OPPORTUNITIES TO IMPROVE, UM, TO CALM TRAFFIC AND IMPROVE SAFETY AND ACCESSIBILITY FOR ALL ROAD USERS.
UM, TO YOUR POINT EARLIER, ST.
FRANCIS IS, UH, IT'S A, A PLANNED BIKE ROUTE FOR THE CITY.
UM, AND UH, IT HAS REALLY, YOU KNOW, GREAT POTENTIAL AS MANY PEOPLE CALLED OUT AT THAT SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL TASK FORCE MEETING.
AND IN OUR WALK AUDIT, UM, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF IT, THE EAST EAST PETALUMA'S VERSION OF, UH, WHAT OR HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BE EAST PETALUMA'S VERSION OF WHAT WE'RE DOING ON FIFTH STREET, RIGHT? WITH, WITH TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE FACT THAT THIS IS A, A NICE, UM, CALM LOWER TRAFFIC, UH, STREET THAT RUNS PARALLEL TO, UM, TO SOUTH MCDOWELL.
AND, UH, SO THERE IS A REALLY EXCITING OPPORTUNITY THERE TO, UM, TO, TO ENHAN TO GIVE IT THOSE ENHANCEMENTS TO, UH, TO, TO FURTHER CALM TRAFFIC AND REALLY DEFINE IT AS A, AS A MAJOR, UM, AS A GREAT CORRIDOR FOR PEOPLE WALKING, BIKING.
AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S THE OPPORTUNITY THAT'S PRESENTED REALLY WITH, WITH PAVING PROJECTS.
FRANCIS FROM MCDOWELL PARALLEL ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE PEDESTRIAN OVERPASSING THAT GOES TO TARGET OVER THE FREEWAY.
AND I THINK, SO THAT IS A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY ON THE EAST SIDE TO HAVE A BIKE ROUTE THAT'S PAVED IMMEDIATELY
AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT JUST PUTTING THE STREETS BACK AS THEY ARE.
UM, WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO INVEST THAT TIME IN THE, IN THE PLANNING AND DESIGN STAGE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CAPITALIZING ON THESE OPPORTUNITIES.
AND, YOU KNOW, SO THAT WAS OUR RECENT WORKSHOP WITH YOU ON, ON HOWARD STREET WAS INDICATIVE OF, OF THAT NEW APPROACH WE'RE TAKING WITH REALLY, UM, THOUGHTFUL UPFRONT PLANNING, UM, BEFORE WE GET TOO FAR ALONG IN THE DESIGN.
OKAY, SO LET ME PUSH THIS TO THE PUBLIC FOR, UM, PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN WE'LL BRING IT BACK UP TO COUNCIL ONE MORE TIME.
AND, UH, SO MADAM CLERK, WILL YOU TAKE OVER FROM THIS POINT? YES.
WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY ONLINE PUBLIC COMMENTS, UM, BUT MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING IN PERSON SHOULD BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARD TO THE CLERK'S DESK IF THEY HAVE NOT ALREADY DONE.
SPEAKERS ARE REMINDED TO BE RESPECTFUL AND THEIR COMMENTS AND THAT THIS MEETING IS BEING TRANSLATED.
PLEASE PAUSE BETWEEN SENTENCES FOR TRANSLATION.
UM, I'VE HEARD A LOT OF, OF, UM, STUFF ABOUT ROAD REPAIRS AND STUFF AND IT HAS BEEN IMPORTANT, UM, SINCE LIKE 2004.
I'VE HEARD THAT WE'VE HAD THE, PROBABLY THE WORST STREETS PROBABLY IN CALIFORNIA.
UH, IT'S GETTING BETTER AS WE GO.
UM, MY CONCERN IS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH THESE, UM, NEW PROJECTS THAT WE'RE, UM, GOING THROUGH, I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY, UM, INFORMATION AS FAR AS TRUCK, UM, TRAVEL IS, IT USED
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TO BE FROM PETALUMA SOUTH ACROSS D STREET USED TO BE OUR TRUCK TRANSIT ROUTE FOR, FOR THE CITY, WHICH WOULD DELIVER ALL THE GOODS.UM, WITH ALL THIS NEW CONSTRUCTION, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT MORE OF THESE HEAVY DUTY TRUCKS AND IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE GONNA BE IN A PERPETUAL STATE OF, UH, CONSTRUCTION AND WHAT ARE WE DOING, UH, AS FAR AS WHERE OUR TRUCK ROUTES ARE GONNA BE, UM, ROUTED THROUGH THE CITY TO, UM, AS FAR AS, UM, ARE, ARE THEY GONNA BE, UH, A THICKER SUBSTRATE FOR THE, FOR THE HEAVIER TRUCKS? 'CAUSE THE TRUCKS ARE GETTING A LOT LARGER AND YOU'RE GAR CARRYING MORE MATERIALS THROUGH THE CITY.
SO I, I WAS JUST HOPING THAT AS UH, YOU GUYS ARE REDEVELOPING IN THE CITY, AT LEAST YOU KEEP IN MIND THAT WE DO NEED TO HAVE OUR TRUCK ROUTES THAT AREN'T GOING THROUGH OUR RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
UH, THAT WAS OUR ONLY SPEAKER FOR TONIGHT, AND THAT CLOSES PUBLIC SPEAKING, UH, FOR TONIGHT.
UM, I WILL SAY, WAYNE, NOT EXACTLY ON WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SORT, SO IT'S PROBABLY NOT GONNA GET AN ANSWER TONIGHT, BUT I'M SURE IT'S PART OF WHAT WE FACTOR IN FOR ALL, ALL OF OUR, UH, ROAD DESIGN ISSUES AND BRINGING IT BACK TO COUNCIL.
UH, COUNCILMAN CATER THOMPSON.
I JUST WANT TO COMMENT ABOUT THE TRUCK.
UM, THE, THROUGH THE GENERAL PLAN, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE TRUCK ROUTES AND, AND I DO BELIEVE THAT WHEN MAJOR ARTERIAL A ROADS ARE DONE, THAT THEY ARE DONE DIFFERENTLY THAN WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO, IS THAT CORRECT? I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER.
IS THAT, DO YOU LOOK AT THE ARTERIALS DIFFERENTLY THAN YOU DO NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS? AS FAR AS THE THICKNESS OF THE PRODUCT? YEAH.
SO NOT TO GET INTO KIND OF TECHNICAL TERMS, BUT UM, E WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT ROAD DESIGN, PAYMENT DESIGN, YOU TALK ABOUT THE TRAFFIC INDEX.
SO THAT'S THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES THAT ARE ON THE ROAD.
UM, WHAT SIZE TRUCKS? TYPICALLY, I'D SAY A COUPLE YEARS AGO IT WAS REALLY DICTATED BY THE NUMBER OF LARGE TRUCKS.
THAT'S GONNA BE YOUR, YOUR LARGEST LOADING POINT.
WHAT YOU DESIGNED FOR, WHAT WE'RE STARTING TO SEE NOW IS THE ELECTRIC BUSES ARE THE ONES THAT REALLY DICTATE ROADS BECAUSE THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY A SMALLER FRAME, LESS WHEELS, BUT JUST AS HEAVY AS A SEMI.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT YOU DESIGN FOR.
AND I THINK, AS YOU GUYS SEE, WE ARE, WE'RE DOING A LOT MORE FULL DEPTH RECLAMATION.
SO WE'RE CREATING A SOLID BASE AND BUILDING UP FROM THAT, TRYING TO DESIGN FOR A 20 YEAR LIFE WITH, UM, THOSE TRUCKS IN MIND.
SO KIND OF FUTURE BUILDING IT FOR THE MOST PART.
AND THEN JUST, UM, OFF, UM, GOING OFF ST.
FRANCIS AND THEN, YOU KNOW, LIKE TO THE TARGET, UM, OVERCROSSING IS, UM, MCGREGOR, I THINK IT IS.
WHEN MARIA DRIVE STOPS AND YOU GO ACROSS MCDOWELL, IS THAT ON A PLAN TO BE DONE? BECAUSE IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE TO KIND OF TIE THAT INTO ST.
FRANCIS GOING TO THE TARGET OVERCROSSING.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WILL, WE WILL LOOK AT WHEN WE START LOOKING INTO, WE, AS WE ARE LOOKING, AND I DON'T WANNA SAY WE'RE GONNA START, WE ARE LOOKING INTO BUILDING THAT FIVE YEAR PLAN AND WE HOPE TO BRING THAT COMPLETE PLAN TO YOU GUYS SOON AS WE WORK.
I KNOW BJORN'S BEEN WORKING ON, ON IMPROVEMENTS ON THAT STRETCH, LOOKING AT, AS WE BUILD OUT MARIA, UM, THE POTENTIAL FOR LIKE A CLASS FOUR BIKE LANE THAT COULD CONNECT.
'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY THAT IS A IMPORTANT CONNECTOR FROM EVEN LIKE SAFEWAY DOWN TO THE OVERCROSSING ACROSS THE FREEWAY.
SO IT DOES, IT DOES RANK WELL IN THAT SENSE OF BEING A VERY, UM, ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION ROUTE.
YEAH, I, THAT'S GONNA BE GREAT.
SO EVERYTHING IS INTERCONNECTING.
UM, YEAH, I WOULD GO AHEAD AND, UH, SUPPORT STAFF.
YOU'VE DONE HUGE AMOUNT OF WORK AND RESEARCH AND YOU'VE GOT ALL THE NUMBERS THERE WITH THE PRIORITIES AND YOU HAVE YOUR ANALOGS TO WORK ON THAT.
SO I'M GONNA TRUST YOU GUYS TO, UM, SET THE PRIORITIES AS WHAT STREETS NEED TO BE DONE FIRST.
UM, IF WE START AS COUNCIL MEMBERS START NOMINATING OUR STREETS THAT WE WANT DONE PUSHED UP, THERE'S, THERE'S PLENTY MORE I WOULD PUSH UP ALSO, UH, THERE'S OTHER THINGS WE'RE, WE'RE ABOUT TO SPEND $4 MILLION TO BUY A BOUNTY FARM AND THAT ROAD IS COMPLETELY A DIRT, SO WHY DON'T WE NOMINATE THAT OR OTHER STREETS.
SO I WOULD TRUST, UH, THE STAFF TO COME UP WITH THE HIGH, THE BEST PRIORITIES.
AND, AND, UM, UH, WE'LL JUST GO WITH THAT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCILMAN HEALY.
SO I, I THINK STAFF HAS ACTUALLY OFFERED TO ADD, UM, ST.
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UH, FY 25, 26.SO, UM, THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION TO APPROVE THIS WITH THAT ONE MODIFICATION.
IT'S, UH, STAFF, UH, AN AGREEMENT THAT THAT'S A, UH, A COMPETENT THING.
SO WE CAN, WE, AND I CAN, AND I CAN ALSO SHARE THOSE PCIS IF, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED.
I WILL JUST SAY THE WAY THAT PCIS ARE MEASURED IS UNIQUE BECAUSE IT'S NOT A WHOLE TREAT SEGMENT.
SO IF WE HAVE ONE SEGMENT COULD BE BROKEN UP INTO MULTIPLE SEGMENTS AS THEY LOOK AT IT.
FRANCIS, IT RANGED OBVIOUSLY A LONG STRETCH, BUT WE'RE LOOKING LIKE PCI 15, 28 TO 40.
SO OVER THAT STRETCH OBVIOUSLY.
AND AT SOME POINT AS YOU GET DOWN BELOW 20, YOU'RE STARTING TO REALLY PULL ERRORS ON THAT.
SO ARE WE, UM, WE'RE UH, RUNNING INTO THE EVENING HERE.
DO YOU NEED THE, UH, PCIS, ARE YOU CONTENT WITH THE MOTION AS IS? UM, I, I THINK THE FACT THAT STAFF IS WILLING TO ACCOMMODATE THIS, WE'RE GOOD TO GO.
AND DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT.
AND MAY WE HAVE A ROLL CALL? VOTE BARNACLE.
AND WITH THAT, THAT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR STAYING TO BAT LAST TONIGHT AND UH, AND UH, GREAT PRESENTATION.