* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:02] ALL WE'RE GONNA START TODAY'S [CALL TO ORDER] MEETING. I DUNNO WHY I'M HOLDING THIS. UH, WE'RE GONNA START TODAY'S MEETING. I'M GONNA ASK FOR THE CLERK [ROLL CALL] TO CALL ROLL. COMMISSIONER MOSES. HERE. COMMISSIONER MCC ABSENT. COMMISSIONER KUSON. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER CATER THOMPSON. ABSENT. CHAIR HOOPER HERE. EXCELLENT. WELL, AS NOTICE AS NO SURPRISE FOR ANYBODY HERE OR WATCHING, OUR FIRST MEETING ITEM WILL BE ADMINISTERING THE OATH OF OFFICE TO BOTH OUR REAPPOINTED AND NEWLY APPOINTED COMMISSIONERS. OH. OH. I'M CAITLYN CORLEY, THE CITY CLERK. SO I'LL BE SWEARING IN OUR NEW COMMISSIONERS. UH, JUST WANTED TO SAY, I'M REALLY EXCITED TO BE HERE. UH, THIS IS ONE OF THE FUN PARTS OF MY JOB TO GET TO SWEAR IN NEW FOLKS, SO THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. I'M GONNA HAVE OUR TWO NEW COMMISSIONERS JOIN ME IN FRONT OF THE DAAS AND I'M GONNA BRING THIS MIC SO WE CAN TRY AND PICK UP SOME OF IT. I'LL HAVE YOU GUYS ON THIS SIDE. I'LL HAVE YOU BOTH STICK RIGHT HERE, HERE AND HERE. THIS ONE? SORRY. YEAH. FACE EACH OTHER THIS WAY. OKAY. I'M GONNA READ THIS AND I'LL HAVE YOU GUYS REPEAT AFTER ME. I HAVE A CHEAT SHEET SO YOU CAN READ ALONG. OKAY. THERE. OKAY. PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND REPEAT AFTER ME. I STATE YOUR NAME. DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR I, BRENT NEWELL, DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I WILL SUPPORT AND DEFEND THAT I WILL, THAT I WILL SUPPORT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, THE CHARTER OF THE CITY OF PETALUMA, THE CHARTER OF THE CITY OF PETALUMA, AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AGAINST ALL ENEMIES, FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC, AGAINST ALL ENEMIES, FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC. THAT I WILL BEAR TRUE FAITH AND ALLEGIANCE, THAT I'LL BEAR TRUE FAITH AND ALLEGIANCE TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES. UNITED STATES. THAT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, UNITED STATES, STATES. THE CHARTER OF THE CITY OF PETALUMA, CHARTER OF THE CITY OF PETALUMA, AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. THAT I TAKE THIS OBLIGATION FREELY, THAT I TAKE THIS OBLIGATION FREELY WITHOUT ANY MENTAL RESERVATION OR PURPOSE OF EVASION WITHOUT, WITHOUT ANY MENTAL RESERVATION OR PURPOSE OF EVASION. AND THAT I WILL WELL AND FAITHFULLY, AND THAT I WILL WELL AND FAITHFULLY DISCHARGE THE DUTIES UPON WHICH I'M ABOUT TO ENTER DISCHARGE. THE DUTIES ABOUT WHICH I'M ABOUT TO ENTER. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. I'LL HAVE YOU BOTH SIGN THOSE ANYWHERE BEHIND YOU, MAYBE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. DO YOU WANNA DO THAT? YEAH. DO I, DO I HAVE TO SIGN ANYTHING OR AM I GOOD? I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THERE WASN'T A PROCEDURAL ISSUE. YOU'RE GOOD BECAUSE YOU'RE, YOU'RE ALREADY ON THE BOARD, SO JUST MAKING SURE. HUH? THANK YOU. I WASN'T SURE. I WILL GLADLY TAKE THE OATH AGAIN. YEAH. I TOOK A VERY SIMILAR OATH FOR THE STATE SENATE AND MY LAST JOB BEFORE THAT, SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT BEFORE I MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, THAT BOTH OF OUR NEW COMMISSIONERS FEEL SETTLED. OKAY. WE ARE NOW MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, OR MEETING ITEM TWO, WHICH IS GOING TO BE THE ELECTION OF OUR NEW OFFICERS. AND THAT'S GOING TO INCLUDE OUR CHAIR, VICE CHAIR, AND SECOND VICE CHAIR, AS WELL AS, AND THIS IS NOT ON THE AGENDA, BUT AS WELL AS OUR, UM, APPOINTMENTS TO OTHER COMMITTEES. SO WITH THAT, UH, [00:05:01] I'M GONNA START THINGS OFF WITH THE CHAIR ELECTION, AND THEN THE MOMENT WE HAVE A NEW CHAIR, I WILL MOVE OVER TO WHEREVER THAT PERSON IS SITTING AND THEY WILL COME HERE AND THEY WILL PROCEED TO RUN THE REST OF THE ELECTIONS. SO WITH THAT, UH, I AM GOING TO ASK THE COMMITTEE TO SOMEONE TO RAISE THEIR HAND TO MAKE A NOMINATION. WE'RE GONNA OPEN FOR NOMINATIONS FOR CHAIR. I WILL KEEP IT OPEN FOR AS MANY NOMINATIONS AS FOLKS WANNA MAKE, AND THEN WE WILL VOTE IN THE ORDER OF THE NOMINATIONS. NICOLA, I'M GONNA DO THIS BECAUSE I KNEW OVER LAST YEAR, OH, NICOLA, YOU MIGHT WANT TO TURN ON YOUR, YEAH, FORGOT ABOUT THAT PART. OVER THE LAST YEAR, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO OBSERVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE POTENTIAL LEADERSHIP OF EACH OF ITS MEMBERS. IN MY OPINION, JESSICA CLEARLY DEMONSTRATES A WIDE RANGE OF KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF THE OPERATION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN THE DI. IN ADDITION, SHE HAS FACILITATED A NUMBER OF SOMETIMES CONTENTIOUS DELIBERATIONS THAT OCCUR. SHE LISTENS AND SHE DRAWS OUT THE REASONS FOR THE DECISIONS, WILL EFFECTIVELY SUMMARIZE IN COMPLEX ISSUES. SHE HAS DEALT WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM STAFF ALL THE WHILE RECOGNIZING PUBLIC INPUT AND THE DIVERGENT VIEWPOINTS OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS. SO, AS THE NEW KID ON THE COMMISSION, I NOMINATE JESSICA FOR THE CHAIR. JESSICA. JESSICA, DO YOU ACCEPT? SURE. YES. OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANOTHER DARREN? WELL, I'LL PUT MY HAT IN THE RING TO SELF NOMINATE BECAUSE I'M REALLY ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT THE WORK OF PLANNING COMMISSION. WITH TWO YEARS UNDER MY BELT NOW, I FEEL LIKE I'VE REALLY GOT MY FEET UNDER ME TO UNDERSTAND THE ISSUES WE'RE GONNA BE FACING, UH, ESPECIALLY AS WE WORK THROUGH OUR GENERAL PLAN PROCESS. I'VE TRIED TO STAY ENGAGED IN THAT PROCESS AS WELL, ATTENDING GPAC AND AS MANY OTHER COMMITTEES AS I CAN TO KEEP MY GRASP OF THE FRAMEWORKS AND UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING ON. UH, AND YOU KNOW, I'VE ALSO NEVER MISSED A PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. I'VE BEEN AS THOROUGH AND ENGAGED AS I CAN ON EVERY ISSUE. UH, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO STEPPING INTO A ROLE OF FACILITATION. I THINK THERE'S A ROLE TO ALWAYS BE BRINGING GOOD COMMENTARY AND SOMETIMES BRINGING UP VIEWPOINTS THAT I THINK WE MIGHT NOT THINK OF THAT I WANNA MAKE SURE WE ADDRESS. UH, BUT I'M EXCITED TO TAKE THAT INTO A ROLE OF LEADERSHIP AND FACILITATION, UH, TO TRY TO SEE ALL THE VIEWPOINTS AND REALLY MAKE IT A DISCUSSION AND, AND BUILD CONSENSUS. I'M EXCITED FOR THAT NEXT STEP AS A PLANNING COMMISSIONER. SO I'LL PUT MYSELF FORWARD FOR CHAIR AS WELL. AND I WILL ASSUME YOU ACCEPT YOUR OWN NOMINATION. I DO ACCEPT MYSELF NOMINATION. EXCELLENT. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? ALRIGHT, UH, WE WILL MOVE ON TO ROLL CALL VOTES. WE WILL START WITH JESSICA SINCE HER NOMINATION CAME FIRST, AND THEN WE WILL GO TO DARREN. I'LL ASK THE CLERK IF THEY COULD DO A ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER FRY. UH, JESSICA. OH, THE MIC. OKAY. JESSICA, PLEASE. COMMISSIONER MCCAIN. ABSENT. COMMISSIONER KUSON? UH, WE'RE JUST VOTING ONE AFTER THE OTHER, SO NO. UM, ON JESSICA. COMMISSIONER NEWALL. JUST A POINT OF ORDER. CAN I VOTE YES ON BOTH MEASURES OR BOTH NOMINATIONS? I, WELL, IT DEPENDS. YOU'RE NOT THE DECIDING VOTE NOW, BUT IF THERE WAS A THREE VOTES FROM EITHER I GUESS BLAKE OR JESSICA, IF THEY WERE THE THIRD, THEN THAT VOTE MOTION WOULD CARRY. AND THEN I GUESS THE OTHER OPTION TOO IS WE COULD ALWAYS CONTINUE THIS UNTIL WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL MEMBER K THOMPSON, AND COMMISSIONER KERLY TOO. THAT'S AN OPTION AS WELL. SO WOULD THE CHAIR ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO TABLE OR ARE WE, ARE WE ALLOWED TO TABLE IN THE MIDDLE OF A MOTION? THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION. I GUESS THERE REALLY WASN'T A MOTION 'CAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE A SECOND. UM, OH, SO MAYBE WE SHOULD PROBABLY DO THAT FIRST, OR, OKAY. I GUESS IF THERE'S NOT A SECOND, THEN WE PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE VOTING. SO I GUESS THERE'S NOTHING TO TABLE SINCE WE DON'T HAVE A MOTION, I GUESS, THAT WE'RE PLAYING. THAT'S GREAT. ARY RULES HERE. THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME OF A VERY BASIC ASPECT OF PROCEDURE. UM, OKAY. WE DON'T HAVE A MOTION, WE DON'T HAVE ANY MOTIONS ON THE FLOOR. THEN BEFORE WE DO THE TABLE, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE ARE SECONDS FOR BOTH NOMINATIONS AND THEN CAN WE ENTERTAIN THE TABLING [00:10:01] OF THE MOTION? DOES, IS THAT ACCEPTABLE TO YOU? SURE. YEAH. IS THERE A SECOND? FOR JESSICA'S NOMINATION, WHICH I HAD ASSUMED ACCEPTING THE NOMINATION WAS DEFACTO THE SECOND, BUT THAT'S TRUE. BUT I THINK WE PROBABLY NEED TO HEAR FROM JESSICA JUST TO, WELL, I GUESS YOU DID, BUT YOU WANNA SECOND? I'LL SECOND. YEAH. JUST TO PUT IT IN THE RECORD. HOW ABOUT THAT, ? OKAY. IS THERE A SECOND FOR DARREN'S NOMINATION? I'LL SECOND DARREN'S NOMINATION. EXCELLENT. UH, AND THEN IS THERE A SECOND FOR TABLING THE MOTION? OKAY. SO WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH, UH, THE INITIAL MOTION FIRST, WHICH IS JESSICA, AND THEN WE'LL GO TO DARREN. SO IF WE COULD RESTART THIS ROLL CALL WHERE, I GUESS CORRECTLY START THE ROLL CALL. COMMISSIONER FRY. YES. COMMISSIONER MCCARLEY. ABSENT. COMMISSIONER KUSON? NO. COMMISSIONER NOEL? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER CADE THOMPSON. ABSENT CHAIR HOOPER? YES. THE MOTION IS APPROVED. OR WAIT, DID YOU GET MOSES? DID YOU, DID YOU GET JUST YEAH. OH, I DIDN'T, I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT WE SKIPPED, YEAH. CALL. OKAY. YEAH. VOTES. UH, COMMISSIONER MOSES? MY APOLOGIES. YES. YES. OKAY. IT IS APPROVED. UH, SINCE YOU'VE INTRODUCED THE IDEA THAT WE CAN VOTE ON BOTH, SHOULD I RUN THE SECOND MOTION NOW? I GUESS TOO, WE SHOULD HAVE JUST DONE THE FIRST MOTION AND THEN IF, YOU KNOW, IF THAT MOTION DOESN'T PASS, THEN WE CAN ENTERTAIN A SECOND MOTION. SO, OKAY. YEAH, I THINK WE'RE OKAY NOW. AND I THINK IT'S ALL DONE. YEAH. OKAY. UHHUH . WELL WITH THAT THEN I'LL CONGRATULATE OUR NEW CHAIR AND I WILL VACATE THIS SEAT. OH, YEAH. ASK YOU QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN I GUESS WE'RE HEADED INTO VICE CHAIR NOMINATIONS, WHICH WE CAN ACCEPT. AND THEN SECOND, COMMISSIONER FRIGHT. I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE DARREN FOR VICE CHAIR. HE'S DONE AN EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT JOB. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HIS ENTHUSIASM AND HIS KNOWLEDGE CONTINUE AS PART OF THE LEADERSHIP OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. I ACCEPT THE NOMINATION. THANK YOU. NICOLA, WOULD YOU ALSO LIKE TO SECOND IT? I'LL, I'LL, I'LL SECOND IT. . THERE WE GO. SO DO WE NEED AN, ARE THERE ANY OTHER VICE CHAIR NOMINATIONS? SEEING NONE, LET'S DO A ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER FRY? YES. COMMISSIONER MOSES OR CHAIR MOSES? YES. COMMISSIONER ERLENE. ABSENT. COMMISSIONER KUSON? YES. COMMISSIONER NEWELL? YES. COUNCILOR MEMBER CATER THOMPSON. ABSENT. COMMISSIONER HOOPER? YES, IT IS PASSED. THANK YOU. AND NOW INTO OUR SECOND VICE CHAIR. ANY NOMINATIONS FOR SECOND VICE CHAIR? BLAKE? I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE NICOLA AND I WILL SECOND THAT. OH, YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT, I GUESS. WOULD YOU LIKE TO ACCEPT? YEAH. OKAY. ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS FOR SECOND VICE CHAIR? ASIDE FROM NICOLA? [00:15:01] SEEING NONE, LET'S DO A ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER FRIGHT? YES. CHAIR MOSES? YES. COMMISSIONER LAN? ABSENT. COMMISSIONER KUSON? YES. COMMISSIONER NOEL? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER CATER THOMPSON. ABSENT. COMMISSIONER HOOPER? YES, IT'S APPROVED. OKAY. THANKS EVERYONE. MOVING ON TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, RIGHT? OH, APPOINT APPOINTMENTS, WHICH I DON'T HAVE HERE. COULD YOU GUIDE US THROUGH, SO CHAIR WILL BE SEEKING APPOINTMENTS TO TWO, UH, CCBS. THE FIRST IS THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND THEN THE SECOND IS THE, UM, PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE ADVISORY COMMITTEE OR PAC. OKAY. SO FIRST LET'S TALK THROUGH THE APPOINTMENT FOR EARLY LIAISON TWO TREE COMMITTEE. ANY NOMINATIONS FOR LIAISON TWO TREE C ASSUMING WE CAN NOMINATE FOR SOMEONE WHO'S NOT HERE. I'LL NOMINATE ROGER MCCARLEY. I'LL SECOND. WE CAN ASSUME HE'LL ACCEPT SINCE HE IS ALREADY BEEN A DOING SO. RIGHT? OKAY. CORRECT. HE'S A CURRENT APPOINTEE. RIGHT. OKAY. RIGHT. LET'S HOPE HE WANTS TO KEEP IT . UH, ANY OTHER, UH, NOMINATIONS FOR TREATY LIAISON? SEEING NONE, LET'S DO A ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER FRY? YES. CHAIR MOSES? YES. COMMISSIONER MACRO LANE. ABSENT. COMMISSIONER KUSON? YES. COMMISSIONER NOEL? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER KANER THOMPSON. ABSENT. COMMISSIONER HOOPER? YES, IT IS APPROVED. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN OUR OTHER CCB LIAISON FOR PAC. ANY NOMINATIONS FOR PEDESTRIAN BICYCLE ADVISORY COMMITTEE LIAISON? IF NO ONE ELSE WANTS TO NOMINATE, I'D LOVE TO DO IT AGAIN. SO I'LL SELF NOMINATE FOR PBAC. I'LL SECOND. I'LL SECOND. I'LL SECOND THAT. OKAY, GREAT. ANY OTHER FOLKS FOR PBAC? ALL RIGHT, LET'S DO A ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER FRIGHT. YES. CHAIR MOSES? YES. COMMISSIONER LAN? ABSENT. COMMISSIONER RASON? YES. UH, COMMISSIONER NOEL? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER KITTER THOMPSON. ABSENT. COMMISSIONER HOOPER? YES, IT'S APPROVED. OKAY. THANKS EVERYBODY FOR MAKING QUICK WORK OF THAT AND INTO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON ITEMS OF PUBLIC INTEREST THAT ARE WITHIN THE PLANNING COMMISSION SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION. I'M GONNA TAKE A QUICK GLANCE AT THE AUDIENCE AND ASSUME THAT WE HAVE NO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. OKAY. THEN WE'LL CLOSE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. THANKS EVERYBODY. CHAIR MOSES? YES. SORRY TO INTERRUPT. I DO NEED TO STATE THAT WE RECEIVED NO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALRIGHT. WE RECEIVED NONE. OKAY. UH, MOVING INTO PRESENTATIONS. WE HAVE NO PRESENTATIONS FOR TODAY'S MEETING, SO WE'LL CLOSE THAT MEETING ON ITEM RIGHT UP AND MOVE ON TO THE [APPROVAL OF MINUTES] APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES MEETING. ITEM NUMBER THREE, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FOR THE MEETING OF JUNE 25TH, 2024. ARE THERE ANY AMENDMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS FOR THE MINUTES FROM JUNE 25TH, 2024? SEEING NONE. UH, DO WE HAVE TO DO A ROLL CALL? VOTE FOR THIS. I'M JUST THINKING SINCE WON, WE HAVE TWO NEW COMMISSIONERS HERE. YEAH. THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE REVIEWED THE PREVIOUS MEETING AND KNOW THE MINUTES, SO PROBABLY NICOLA HAS, BUT MAYBE WE JUST CONTINUE THAT UNTIL, DO WE NEED A MOTION TO CONTINUE? IT KIND OF HURT. YEAH. UP TO YOU THOUGH. OR, OR THE CHAIR HAS THE DISCRETION TO JUST APPROVE THE MINUTES. THERE'S A ROLL CALL. VOTE ISN'T REQUIRED. I THINK IN THIS CASE WHERE TWO OF THE COMMISSIONERS WOULD HAVE TO ABSTAIN FROM THE VOTE BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T, UH, PART OF THE COMMISSION DURING THAT MEETING THAT, UM, WE WOULDN'T HAVE A QUORUM FOR VOTE ANYWAY. SO, OKAY. LET'S MOVE TO CONTINUE SO WE CAN CONTINUE, YEAH. CONTINUE TO DATE CERTAIN OF THE NEXT, UH, SCHEDULED MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. YES. YEAH. GREAT. THANK YOU. OKAY. THAT TAKES US [PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION] TO MEETING ITEM FOUR, STUDY SESSION, THE RECOMMENDATION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO RECEIVE A STAFF PRESENTATION AND CON CONDUCT A STUDY SESSION TO SOLICIT INPUT AND PROVIDE NON-BINDING COMMENTS TO THE GENERAL PLAN UPDATE STAFF AND CONSULTANTS. [00:20:01] WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THE DRAFT HISTORIC RESOURCES AND THEN THE PUBLIC FACILITIES POLICY FRAMEWORKS. WE'LL ALSO RECEIVE A PRESENTATION FROM THE AD HOC COMMITTEE REGARDING COMMENTS ON THE FLOOD RESILIENCY RESILIENCY POLICY FRAMEWORK. UM, AS PART OF OUR FOUNDATIONAL WORK ON THE GENERAL PLAN UPDATE, NO ACTION IS BEING TAKEN. SO WE'RE, UH, SO THEREFORE CQA DETERMINATION IS NOT REQUIRED. AND THEN FOLLOWING THE REVIEW, WE'LL, UH, BE GETTING THE LAND USE FRAMEWORK. AND I, HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY SOON WE'VE BEEN, WE PATIENTLY WAITING , UM, THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING. DOES NOT REQUIRE THE COMMISSION TO DISCLOSE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS. AND I'LL INVITE STAFF, UM, TO, TO TELL US MORE ABOUT THE GENERAL PLAN UPDATE. WELCOME BACK, HEATHER. THANK YOU. UM, WELCOME TO YOUR NEW POSITION, CHAIR, VICE CHAIR. SECOND VICE CHAIR, NEW COMMISSIONERS. UM, HEATHER HINES, SPECIAL PROJECTS MANAGER FOR THE CITY. UM, SO I'M GONNA KICK THIS OFF AS, AS WE'VE BEEN DOING EVERY MEETING, UM, KICK THIS OFF AND THEN HAND IT OVER TO, UM, RON MORE WITH RAMEY, UM, TO INTRODUCE THE TEAM. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. UM, SO WE HAVE BEEN HERE A LOT AND WE ARE AGAIN HERE TONIGHT. UM, SO TONIGHT WE ARE, UM, PROVIDING A PRESENTATION OF THE HISTORIC RESOURCES AND PUBLIC FACILITIES FRAMEWORKS. UM, THESE ARE FRAMEWORKS THAT WERE NOT ASSIGNED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S AD HOCS BECAUSE THEY HAD OTHER, UM, CCBS THAT HAD A PARTICULAR FOCUS. SO FOR INSTANCE, HISTORIC AND CULTURAL PRESERVATION COMMITTEE, UH, DID AN IN-DEPTH DIVE, UM, WITH THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION. SO LOOKING MORE FOR, TO ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON THOSE TWO, UM, FRAMEWORKS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE IN ADDITION TO THE FEEDBACK WE RECEIVED FROM OTHER BOARDS, COMMITTEES, COMMISSIONS. UM, BUT THE FLOOD RESILIENCE FRAMEWORK IS ONE THAT WAS ASSIGNED TO AN AD HOC. WE HAD A PRESENTATION ON THAT LA LAST MEETING, MEETING BEFORE I, NOW I CAN'T REMEMBER. UM, BUT BECAUSE THE AD HOC HAD, IT'S A VERY MEATY, UM, FRAMEWORK AND SO, UM, GAVE A LITTLE MORE TIME FOR THE AD HOC TO COMPLETE THEIR REVIEW. SO WE WILL NOT BE DOING A REPEAT ON THAT PRESENTATION. UM, BUT WE WILL BE HEARING FROM THE AD HOC ON THEIR COMMENTS. AND WE DO HAVE OUR CONSULTANT TEAM AND STAFF HERE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS THAT COME UP WITH THAT. UM, WE HAD HELD JULY 23RD IN CASE WE DIDN'T MEET OUR TIMELINES, BUT WE HAVE BEEN DOING SO AMAZING. WELL THAT WE MIGHT NOT NEED, UM, THE 23RD. UM, THE LAND USE FRAMEWORK IS FORTHCOMING, BUT WE WILL NOT BE READY TO DISCUSS IT BY THAT NEXT MEETING ON JULY 23RD. BUT, UM, IT WILL BE COMING SHORTLY AND WE ARE ALL VERY EXCITED, UM, TO RELEASE THAT AND TALK ABOUT THAT ONE. NEXT SLIDE. SO AS I MENTIONED TONIGHT'S MEETING, THERE WILL BE, UM, CONSULTANT OVERVIEW OF THE HISTORIC RESOURCES AND PUBLIC FACILITIES. UM, THEN THE AD HOC PRESENTATION ON THE FLOOD RESILIENCE FRAMEWORK, CLARIFYING QUESTIONS. IT LOOKS LIKE A ROBUST PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. AND THEN WE'LL RETURN IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR ANY COMMENTS ON THOSE FRAMEWORKS. AND I THINK WITH THAT, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO RON. SO JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR, WE'RE DOING ALL THREE NO PRESENTATION FOR RIGHT FLOOD AND THEN COMMENTS ACROSS ALL. YEAH. AND IF THERE'S CLAR, ONCE THE CONSULTANTS ARE DONE WITH THEIR PRESENTATION, IF THERE'S ANY CLARIFYING QUESTIONS ON HISTORIC RESOURCE OR PUBLIC FACILITIES, UM, WE COULD PAUSE TO HAVE THAT BEFORE JUMPING INTO THE AD HOC PRESENTATION. GREAT. OKAY. THANK YOU HEATHER. UM, GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. RON WHITMORE, RAMI AND ASSOCIATES. AND I ACTUALLY TRUNCATED SOME OF THE SLIDES 'CAUSE THEY'RE SOMEWHAT OUTTA DATE AT THIS POINT. WE REALLY ARE EXPECTING THAT TONIGHT IS THE REALLY THE LAST, UM, VENUE FOR PROVIDING, UH, PUBLIC INPUT ON ALL THESE PUBLIC DRAFT POLICY FRAMEWORKS. AGAIN, THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. UM, CAN'T TELL YOU HOW HELPFUL IT HAS BEEN FOR YOU TO TAKE SUCH A CLOSE LOOK AT MANY OF THE FRAMEWORKS AND TAKE THE TIME TO REVIEW AND PROVIDE COMMENT ON ALL OF THE FRAMEWORKS. SO WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE ADDITIONAL MEETINGS YOU ADDED TO YOUR CALENDAR AND THE MANY HOURS OUTSIDE OF YOUR MEETINGS THAT YOU'VE COMMITTED TO REVIEWING THE FRAMEWORKS. UM, SO ALL I'VE REALLY GOT, BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO HANNAH TO TALK ABOUT HISTORIC RESOURCES, IT'S JUST A REMINDER OF THE TYPES OF FEEDBACK WE'RE REALLY INTERESTED IN. THIS IS NOTHING [00:25:01] NEW OTHER THAN THE QUESTIONS THAT WE DO HAVE THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO THE HISTORIC RESOURCES FRAMEWORK, UM, WHICH ARE HERE, ARE ON THE BOTTOM OF THIS SLIDE. SO AGAIN, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO HANNAH AT THIS POINT, WHO WILL GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW SIMILAR TO THE OTHER OVERVIEWS WE YOU'VE RECEIVED. BUT THIS ONE'S SPECIFIC TO THE HISTORIC RESOURCES PUBLIC DRAFT POLICY FRAMEWORK. SHE'LL THEN HAND IT TO MEGAN, WHO WILL GIVE YOU A SIMILAR OVERVIEW OF THE PUBLIC FACILITIES FRAMEWORK. AND THEN, AS YOU ALL JUST DISCUSSED, WE CAN PAUSE AT THAT POINT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. OTHERWISE, WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO AD HOC WORKING GROUP NUMBER ONE TO PRESENT COMMENTS ON THE FLIGHT RESILIENCE FRAMEWORK. UH, HANNAH, I'LL HAND IT TO YOU AT THIS POINT. THANKS, RON. UM, HI EVERYONE. MY NAME'S HANNAH SIMONSON. I AM A CULTURAL RESOURCES PLANNER, AN ARCHITECTURAL HISTORIAN WITH PAIGE AND TURNBULL. UM, I THINK I GOT TO MEET A COUPLE OF YOU AT THE GENERAL PLAN FEST, BUT, UM, THANKS AGAIN FOR LISTENING TO THESE PRESENTATIONS AND PROVIDING A COMMENT. WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROCESS. UM, NEXT SLIDE. SO I THINK, AS YOU ALL PROBABLY KNOW VERY WELL, PETALUMA HAS A REALLY UNIQUELY DENSE CONCENTRATION OF HIGH QUALITY AND INTACT RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL AND IN INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS. UM, I THINK THAT AS PRESERVATION PROFESSIONALS, WE CAN SAY FROM AN OUTSIDER PERSPECTIVE ALSO, THAT THESE ARE REALLY AMONG THE TOP TIER IN CALIFORNIA. SO WHAT PETALUMA HAS IS REALLY SPECIAL. UM, AND THIS IS, UH, A SET OF RESOURCES THAT'S DEFINITELY WORTH PROTECTING. AND WE THINK PETALUMA HAS DONE A REALLY GREAT JOB IN THE PAST, BUT THERE ARE OF COURSE ALWAYS WAYS, UM, THAT, UH, WE CAN IMPROVE GOING FORWARD. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO DO WITH THIS GENERAL PLAN UPDATE. NEXT SLIDE. UM, SO JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND IN TERMS OF EXISTING CONDITIONS, THERE ARE QUITE A FEW DESIGNATED HISTORIC RESOURCES IN PETALUMA. THESE INCLUDE, UH, INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES THAT ARE LISTED EITHER ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC RESOURCES OR THE CALIFORNIA REGISTER. UM, THERE'S ALSO THE DOWNTOWN COMMERCIAL DISTRICT LISTED ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES. UM, AND THEN LOCALLY, UH, LISTED PETALUMA LANDMARKS INCLUDING 20 INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES AND FOUR HISTORIC DISTRICTS. NEXT SLIDE. UM, I THINK WHAT'S INTERESTING TO NOTE, AND MAYBE IS LESS ON, UM, PEOPLE'S RADAR, IS THAT PETALUMA ALSO HAS, UM, ALMOST 40% OF PROPERTIES IN THE CITY WOULD BE CONSIDERED AGE ELIGIBLE AS POTENTIAL HISTORIC RESOURCES, UM, MEANING THEIR 45 YEARS OR OLDER. UM, THIS IS NOT TO SAY THAT EVERY BUILDING THAT IS, OR EVERY PROPERTY THAT IS OVER 45 YEARS OLD IS HISTORIC, BUT THERE'S JUST THE POTENTIAL THERE. SO, UM, THERE'S QUITE A LOT OF OLD, UM, BUILDINGS IN PETALUMA. NEXT SLIDE. AND I THINK WHAT'S REALLY INTERESTING TO NOTE ABOUT THIS IS THE PROXIMITY OF MANY OF THESE PROPERTIES TO EXISTING HISTORIC RESOURCES AND DISTRICTS, AS WELL AS THE FACT THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL, UM, PREVIOUS SURVEYS INCLUDING, UM, SPECIFIC PLANS THAT HAVE IDENTIFIED ELIGIBLE HISTORIC RESOURCES OR POTENTIAL DISTRICTS OR POTENTIAL EXPANDED HISTORIC DISTRICTS, UM, THAT ARE NOT CURRENTLY PROTECTED UNDER THE EXISTING LOCAL CODE AND ORDINANCE REGULATIONS. THEY MAY HAVE SOME PROTECTIONS UNDER CQA BUT UM, ARE NOT CURRENTLY DESIGNATED. NEXT SLIDE. UM, SO THIS IS JUST A RECAP OF THE VISIONS, PILLARS AND GUIDING PRINCIPLES, UM, THAT ARE INFORMING THE OVERALL GENERAL PLAN UPDATE. WE PULLED OUT A COUPLE THAT WE THINK ARE, UM, THE MOST DIRECTLY RELATED TO HISTORIC PRESERVATION. UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, THESE POINTS, UM, HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND SENSE OF PLACE IN PETALUMA ARE REALLY HIGHLY VALUED, UM, AMONGST THESE COMMUNITY PRIORITIES. AND I THINK YOU CAN ALSO SEE FROM THESE THAT THEY'RE VERY MUCH INTERTWINED WITH OTHER KEY VALUES, INCLUDING SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCY AND ECONOMIC VITALITY. , NEXT SLIDE. UM, SO THE WAY THAT WE'VE ORGANIZED THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION FRAMEWORK IS INTO FIVE KIND OF BUCKETS OR GOALS. UM, AND THEN EACH OF THESE HAS A PRETTY DETAILED GOAL STATEMENT AS WELL AS A SERIES OF POLICIES AND QUITE A FEW ACTION ITEMS. UH, SO THOSE ARE KIND OF THE MEAT OF THE FRAMEWORK. SO HOPEFULLY YOU EITHER HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THAT OR WE'LL BE ABLE TO [00:30:01] REVIEW IT IN MORE DETAIL. 'CAUSE LIKE I SAID, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE, WHERE THE MEAT OF EVERYTHING IS. BUT THIS IS JUST KIND OF A HIGH LEVEL SUMMARY. SO NEXT SLIDE. AGAIN, THESE ARE, UM, JUST KIND OF A, A, A SUMMARY OF THE VARIOUS POLICIES UNDER EACH GOAL. AND THEN THERE'S A SERIES OF ACTION ITEMS WHICH ARE NOT LISTED OR SUMMARIZED HERE. UM, BUT THE WAY THAT WE'VE KIND OF STRUCTURED OR BROKEN UP THESE GOALS AND POLICIES, GOAL ONE IS REALLY ABOUT FOSTERING AND MAINTAINING, UH, DESIGNATED HISTORIC RESOURCES THROUGH, UM, PROJECT REVIEW, INCLUDING USE OF, UH, DESIGN GUIDELINES AND OTHER, UM, ORDINANCE POLICIES, AS WELL AS IMPLEMENTING, UM, INCENTIVES TO ENCOURAGE HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S, UM, A, UH, A POSITIVE TOOL, UH, FOR THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS REGULAR, UM, TRAINING FOR STAFF AND COMMISSIONS. UM, AND I SHOULD JUST SAY THIS CAME UP IN OUR, UH, HCPC, UH, HEARING WHERE WE CERTAINLY DON'T THINK THAT STAFF DOESN'T HAVE PRESERVATION EXPERIENCE OR TRAINING, BUT THE POLICY AND ACTION ITEMS ARE JUST TO ENCOURAGE, UH, CONTINUAL TRAINING, ONGOING TRAINING OF, UH, STAFF AND COMMISSION MEMBERS, AS WELL AS, UM, STAFF THAT MAY NOT BE INVOLVED IN PRESERVATION ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS. UM, SUCH AS, UH, IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WHO MAY HAVE TO IMPLEMENT STATE HISTORIC BUILDING CODE, BUT IT'S NOT KIND OF THEIR LIKE DAY-TO-DAY, UH, WORK ON PRESERVATION. SO ANYWAY, JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT. UM, SO THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT IDEAS THAT HAVE COME TO US FROM THE, THE COMMUNITY AND BEST PRACTICES IN TERMS OF INCENTIVES, UM, WHICH ARE OUTLINED MORE IN DETAIL IN THE ACTION ITEMS UNDER THIS GOAL. NEXT SLIDE. AND THEN GOAL TWO IS REALLY ABOUT, UM, CELEBRATING AND RECOGNIZING PETALUMA'S DIVERSE ARCHITECTURAL AND CULTURAL HERITAGE, UM, BY CONTINUING TO IDENTIFY AND DESIGNATE HISTORIC RESOURCES, INCLUDING THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN OVERLOOKED OR UNDERREPRESENTED IN THE PAST. SO THIS IS REALLY ABOUT KIND OF EXPANDING THE, UH, HISTORIC PRESERVATION, UM, PROGRAM INTO IDENTIFYING ADDITIONAL RESOURCES, INCLUDING ONES THAT ARE RELATED TO PETALUMA'S, UNIQUE, RIVER DEPENDENT AND AGRICULTURAL HERITAGE, UM, AND DIFFERENT HISTORIC LANDSCAPE FEATURES. EXCELLENT. UM, AND THEN GOAL THREE IS REALLY TYING PRESERVATION INTO SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCY. WE REALLY THINK THAT, UM, THIS IS A KEY ASPECT OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND ITS VALUE TO THE COMMUNITY. UH, WE OFTEN SAY THE GREENEST BUILDING IS THE ONE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN BUILT. SO WITH THAT KIND OF, UM, EMPHASIS IN MIND, THERE'S A STRONG SUPPORT FOR, UH, FINDING STRATEGIES FOR ADAPTIVE REUSE AND SALVAGE OF EXISTING BUILDINGS. NEXT SLIDE. AND THEN, WELL, GOAL FOUR REALLY FOCUSES ON ARCHEOLOGICAL AND INTANGIBLE TRIBAL CULTURAL HERITAGE, UM, BY WORKING WITH TRIBAL REPRESENTATIVES AS PARTNERS, UM, TO PROTECT THEIR HISTORY AND REALLY SHARE THESE STORIES AS A MORE INTEGRAL PART OF PETALUMA'S HISTORY AS WELL AS CURRENT PUBLIC LIFE. UH, NEXT SLIDE. AND THEN GOAL FIVE IS ABOUT PUBLIC EDUCATION AND REALLY BRINGING PRESERVATION OUT MORE INTO THE DAILY LIVES OF THE COMMUNITY, UM, AS WELL AS USING PRESERVATION TO SUPPORT HERITAGE TOURISM AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. WE KNOW THAT PETALUMA'S DOWNTOWN, UM, IS A REALLY BIG DRAW FOR A LOT OF VISITORS. UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WE THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT OF WAYS THAT CAN PROMOTE LOCAL BUSINESSES, UM, AND SUPPORT KIND OF THE LOCAL ECONOMY OF PETALUMA THROUGH HISTORIC PRESERVATION, UM, AND AS WELL AS PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT IN PETALUMA'S HISTORY. NEXT SLIDE. UM, SO WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF REALLY GOOD, UM, ENGAGEMENT FROM THE HCPC AS WELL AS EARLY KIND OF GPAC AND PUBLIC COMMENTS. A LOT OF GREAT COMMENTS AT THE GENERAL PLAN FEST. UM, THIS IS A SUMMARY FROM OUR MOST RECENT, UM, MEETING WITH THE HISTORIC CULTURAL PRESERVATION COMMITTEE, UM, IN MAY. UH, SO THAT'S KIND OF SUMMARIZED HERE. THERE'S, THERE ARE SOME REALLY GOOD IDEAS ABOUT, UM, BEING, UH, PROACTIVE IN THE CITY PROGRAM, SIMPLIFYING SOME OF THE PROCESSES, UM, INCLUDING, UM, SOME UPDATES TO UNIFY THE ZONING AND HISTORIC CODES AND REALLY ALLOWING FOR INNOVATION AND FLEXIBILITY AND ADAPTIVE REUSE AND STRENGTHENING INCENTIVES. SO THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE THINK [00:35:01] THAT THERE'S ASPECTS OF THAT IN THE FRAMEWORK, BUT THESE WERE REALLY GREAT COMMENTS AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THESE POINTS ARE INCORPORATED AND, UM, REALLY ARTICULATED IN, IN THE WAY THAT WE WANNA SEE THEM. AND I THINK WITH THAT, I'LL HAND IT OVER TO MEGAN. THANK YOU. HI, EVERYBODY. UH, I AM MEGAN MCNULTY. I'M A SENIOR PLANNER AT RAINIER ASSOCIATES, AND TODAY I WILL WALK YOU THROUGH THE PUBLIC FACILITIES POLICY FRAMEWORK. SO I'LL START WITH A QUICK OVERVIEW OF EXISTING CONDITIONS. SO PUBLIC FACILITIES IN PETALUMA. UM, THEY RELATE TO A VARIETY OF PUBLIC USES. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PLACES LIKE COMMUNITY CENTERS, UH, HEALTHCARE FACILITIES, SCHOOLS, UM, ALL THESE PLACES THAT PROVIDE, UH, COMMUNITY SERVICES AND ARE REALLY IMPORTANT CONTRIBUTORS TO THE HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE THAT PETALUMA RESIDENTS ENJOY. UM, AN IMPORTANT THING IS THAT THIS POLICY FRAMEWORK AND ULTIMATELY THE GENERAL PLAN, THEY'LL MOSTLY FOCUS ON, UH, PUBLIC FACILITIES THAT THE CITY HAS AUTHORITY OVER, UM, AND OWNS AND OPERATES. SO FACILITIES LIKE CITY HALL, RECREATION BUILDINGS, ET CETERA, UM, RATHER THAN FACILITIES THAT ARE OWNED AND OPERATED BY OTHER AGENCIES. SO THAT THE, THIS POLICY FRAMEWORK CONTAINS POLICIES, UM, RELATED TO PARTNERSHIPS AND, UM, YOU KNOW, FOSTERING RELATIONSHIPS WITH OTHER AGENCIES THAT OPERATE OTHER PUBLIC FACILITIES OF THE COMMUNITY LIKE THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS. BUT ULTIMATELY, UM, THE CITY HAS ONLY SO MUCH AUTHORITY OVER SUCH FACILITIES. UM, AND OUR EXISTING CONDITIONS ANALYSIS SHOWED THAT THE CITY IS CURRENTLY REALLY WELL SERVED BY PUBLIC FACILITIES TODAY. SO MOSTLY THE GENERAL PLAN POLICY FRAMEWORK RELATED TO THIS TOPIC, IF FOCUSES ON THE EXPANSION AND MAINTENANCE OF PUBLIC FACILITIES TO KEEP PACE WITH, UH, POPULATION CHANGE, AS WELL AS, UH, SHIFTING COMMUNITY PRIORITIES OVER TIME. NEXT SLIDE. SO HERE ARE THE FOUNDATIONS. UM, PUBLIC FACILITIES RELATE TO MANY IDEAS FROM THE VISION AND THEN THE GENERAL PLAN PILLARS, BUT PRIMARILY THEIR PLACES TO, UM, ADVANCE COMMUNITY EDUCATION, SAFETY AND CONNECTIONS WITH OTHERS. AND THEN THE FRAMEWORK ALSO SEEKS TO ENSURE THAT THE CITY'S PUBLIC FACILITIES ARE RESILIENT, SUSTAINABLE, AND CLIMATE READY, AS SHOWN IN THE PILLARS. AND IT ALSO PRIORITIZES, UH, EQUITABLE ACCESS TO PUBLIC FACILITIES AND SERVICES TO BETTER SERVE RESIDENTS. AND THEN HERE ARE RELATED, UH, GUIDING PRINCIPLES. UM, THE FRAMEWORK ASPIRES FOR A NUMBER OF THINGS INCLUDING, UH, CARBON NEUTRAL PUBLIC FACILITIES, UM, AND EQUITABLE DISTRIBUTION FACILITIES AND SERVICES AND PROGRAMS, AS WELL AS FACILITIES AND PROGRAMS THAT ADVANCE, UM, HEALTH AND WELLNESS OF RESIDENTS. THE POLICY FRAMEWORK ALSO AIMS TO SUPPORT A CONNECTED NETWORK OF FACILITIES. SO VERY SIMILAR TO THE, THE PARKS NETWORK THAT WAS DISCUSSED IN THE MEETING TWO WEEKS AGO. UH, THE FRAMEWORK SEEKS TO ENSURE FACILITIES AND SERVICES ARE WELCOMING AND INCLUSIVE AND ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYBODY. AND SINCE CITY GOVERNMENT OPERATES OUTTA THESE FACILITIES, UH, THE FRAMEWORK SEEKS TO ENSURE THAT FACILITIES CAN SUPPORT, UH, GOVERNMENT SERVICES AND LEADERSHIP. AND HERE ARE THE SNAPSHOT IS A SNAPSHOT OF THE THREE GOALS IN THE FRAMEWORK. THIS FRAMEWORK IS A BIT SHORTER THAN MANY OF THE OTHER POLICY FRAMEWORKS. UM, REASON BEING IS, THOUGH THIS IS AN IMPORTANT TOPIC, MANY OF, UM, A FEW OF THE, THE IDEAS THAT COULD BE ENCOMPASSED UNDER THIS FRAMEWORK ARE ACTUALLY PROVIDED IN MORE DETAIL IN OTHER FRAMEWORKS. SO, FOR INSTANCE, THE PARKS AND RECREATION FRAMEWORK, IT COVERS RECREATIONAL FACILITIES IN A BIT MORE DETAIL THAN THIS FRAMEWORK DOES. AND THEN SIMILARLY, UM, POLICE AND FIRE SERVICES AND FACILITIES, THEY'RE TOUCHED ON IN THIS FRAMEWORK, BUT THEY'RE EXPANDED ON IN MORE DETAIL AND I BELIEVE THE SAFETY FRAMEWORK. SO HERE ARE THE THREE GOALS, AND I'LL QUICKLY WALK YOU THROUGH 'EM IN THE NEXT SLIDES. SO THE FIRST GOAL SPEAKS TO PUBLIC FACILITIES GENERALLY, AND IT STRIVES TO PROVIDE, UH, PUBLIC FACILITIES THAT MEETS THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY FOR QUALITY SERVICES AND PROGRAMS AS NEEDED, THE CITY WILL UPDATE, EXPAND, RELOCATE, OR REPLACE PUBLIC FACILITIES. AND THIS WILL BE GUIDED BY A FACILITIES MASTER PLAN THAT WILL ALSO, UM, IDENTIFY FUNDING STRATEGIES TO SUPPORT, UM, MAINTENANCE EXPANSION OF PUBLIC FACILITIES. THE FRAMEWORK ALSO SEEKS TO ENSURE FACILITIES ARE DESIGNED TO BE ADAPTABLE SO THAT THEY CAN BE USED FOR A VARIETY OF PURPOSES. THE FRAMEWORK STRIVES TO ENHANCE, UM, THE PETALUMA MUNICIPAL AIRPORT AS WELL AS THE MARINA. UM, ANOTHER IDEA HERE IS TO PROVIDE ACCESSIBLE OUTDOOR SPACE WHERE FEASIBLE AT PUBLIC FACILITIES, PARTICULARLY IN AREAS THAT DON'T HAVE GREAT ACCESS TO PARKS OR WHERE, YOU KNOW, PROVIDING A NEW PARK IS NOT ENTIRELY [00:40:01] FEASIBLE. AND LASTLY, THE FRAMEWORK SEEKS TO DESIGN CARBON NEUTRAL FACILITIES AND INTEGRATE MODERN TECH TECHNOLOGY FACILITIES AND ENSURE AGAIN, THAT ALL FACILITIES ARE ACCESSIBLE AND WELCOMING. THE NEXT GOAL, YEAH, IT SEEKS TO ENSURE THAT ALL RESIDENTS ARE PROVIDED WITH SUPERIOR EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES AT PUBLIC FACILITIES. SO THIS INCLUDES COORDINATING WITH LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO ANTICIPATE COMMUNITY, UM, EDUCATIONAL NEEDS AND POTENTIAL BUILDING UPDATES OVER TIME AT THE CITY'S FACILITIES. UM, IT ALSO MEANS SUPPORTING CHILDCARE AND PRE-K SERVICES AT THE CITY'S PUBLIC FACILITIES AND MORE BROADLY THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. AND THEN LASTLY, THE CITY STRIVES TO INVEST IN FLEXIBLE AND AGAIN, ADAPTABLE SPACES THAT COULD BE USED FOR EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMMING FOR ITS RESIDENTS. AND THEN THE LAST GOAL RELATES TO THE PETALUMA FAIRGROUNDS AND NAMES TO ENSURE THE PROPERTY CONTINUES TO HOST THE FAIR. IT PROVIDES OPPORTUNITIES FOR PUBLIC ACCESS AND ENJOYMENT, AND IS HOME TO A VARIETY OF CIVIC USES. UH, THE FIRST POLICY HERE RELATES TO DEVELOPING A MASTER PLAN FOR THE SITE. AND THIS WOULD BUILD ON THE, UH, PETALUMA FAIRGROUNDS GUIDING PRINCIPLES, WHICH ARE DESCRIBED IN MORE DETAIL UNDER POLICY TWO, THE FRAMEWORK SUPPORTS INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENTS TO SUPPORT THE FUTURE OF THE PROPERTY, DEPENDING ON THE FUTURE USE OF THE SITE. UH, NEXT, THE FRAMEWORK IT STRIVES TO INCORPORATE CLIMATE, UH, ADAPTATION PLANNING AND LANDSCAPE STRATEGIES ON THE FAIRGROUNDS PROPERTY. AND THEN THE LASTLY, THE FRAMEWORKS TO IMPROVE CONNECTIVITY WITHIN, UM, THE SITE AS WELL AS FROM OTHER LOCAL DESTINATIONS TO BE, YOU KNOW, A PLACE THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN ACCESS AND ENJOY. SO THAT IS THE END OF THAT SHORT FRAMEWORK. UM, SO I WILL TURN IT BACK OVER TO THE CHAIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DO WE WANNA DO THE AD HOC OR WE'LL DO QUESTIONS ON THIS FIRST. OKAY, GREAT. SO TURNING TO QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION ON THESE PRESENTATIONS REGARDING, UH, HISTORIC AND FACILITIES. ANYONE WITH QUESTIONS? DARREN? UH, THANK YOU. UH, SO A COUPLE QUESTIONS HERE. FIRST ONE IS JUST A NOTE, AND MAYBE I'M LOOKING AT AN OLDER DRAFT, BUT IT LOOKED LIKE ACTION HR 1.1 0.1, AND 1.1 0.2 ARE DUPLICATED. UM, SO JUST WANTED TO FLAG THAT FOR THE TEAM. AND THEN IN READING THIS, ESPECIALLY 1.1 0.3 THERE, UM, WHEN I TALK ABOUT DESIGN GUIDELINES, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, DOES THIS IMPLY THE CREATION, THE ACTION LISTED THERE? DOES THAT THE CREATION OF KINDA UNIVERSAL DESIGN GUIDELINES FOR HISTORIC RESOURCES, OR I GUESS WHAT STAFF'S TAKE ON WHAT WE'RE PUTTING IN PLACE HERE FOR DESIGN GUIDELINES? BECAUSE WHEN WE DISCUSSED THE HOTEL AND OVERLAY, WE KIND OF DID A PROCESS LIKE THAT TO LOOK AT DESIGN GUIDELINES NEAR A HISTORIC RESOURCE. SO IS THAT BEING IMPLIED EITHER IN THIS ACTION OR ELSEWHERE THAT WE'LL PUT TOGETHER SOME KIND OF DESIGN GUIDELINES LIKE THAT? I'M TRYING TO QUICKLY PULL UP TO LOOK SPECIFICALLY AT THE WORDING. SO WE DO ALREADY HAVE DESIGN GUIDELINES FOR OUR HISTORIC DISTRICTS, UM, IN PLACE THEY NEED UPDATED, THEY'RE, I THINK FROM MAYBE THE EARLY NINETIES. UM, SO THERE'S, THERE'S A, SO THIS IS UPDATING, LET'S SEE. SO UPDATE DESIGN GUIDELINES FOR THE HISTORIC DISTRICTS, UM, TO REFLECT CURRENT BEST PRACTICES. SO I, THE WAY I'M READING THIS, IT'S TO UPDATE THE ONES WE ALREADY HAVE, UM, TO BETTER RESPOND TO CHALLENGES WE HAVE USING THEM NOW. UM, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS, THERE'S A LOT OF TECHNOLOGY AND A LOT OF INNOVATION THAT'S HAPPENED SINCE THESE WERE EVEN WRITTEN. UM, THAT OUR HANDS ARE KIND OF TIED SOMETIMES TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT SOME OF, SOME OF THE AVAILABLE RESOURCES, OR IT MIGHT HAVE THINGS, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT, THAT TUG WITH, FOR INSTANCE, SOME OF THE STATE LAW THINGS THAT COME DOWN, LIKE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS AND HISTORIC DISTRICTS. SO IT'S, THEY'RE OUTDATED. SO I'M READING THIS AS UPDATING THOSE EXISTING GUIDELINES FOR THOSE THREE HISTORIC DISTRICTS. OKAY, PERFECT. AND YEAH, LIKE I SAID, I HAD THE CONTEXT OF OUR OVERLAY REVIEW. IN MY HEAD, I'M THINKING, CAN WE NOW AVOID THAT ON A PER PROJECT BASIS? WILL THIS BE KIND OF A REPLACEMENT? AND IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE KIND OF GOING ON THAT PATH. UM, I DON'T WANNA MISSPEAK [00:45:01] ABOUT THE, I'M NOT INTIMATELY INVOLVED IN THE OVERLAY TO KNOW, BUT, SO THAT IS PART OF, OR ALL OF THE, THE HOTEL PROPOSAL, BUT NOT WELL, AND ALL THE OVERLAYS ARE WITHIN HISTORIC DISTRICTS SEE, AND OTHERS ARE NOT. RIGHT? YEAH. SO WE'RE, OKAY. OKAY. SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT SCENARIO. OKAY. BUT, BUT COMMISSIONER, I THINK DURING THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS REVIEW, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT DO WE NEED TO CRAFT SOME DESIGN GUIDANCE, SOME DESIGN REGULATIONS FOR PROJECTS THAT MAY OCCUR OR MAY BE PROPOSED WITHIN A HISTORIC DISTRICT. SO WERE YOU THINKING BACK PERHAPS TO THOSE CONVERSATIONS AS WELL? YEAH, AND I GUESS THE PROJECT I'M THINKING OF, IT'S MORE OF A DISTRICT ABUTTING IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT. AND SO I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA GET LOST IN THE VAGARIES OF THAT PROJECT. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD DESIGN GUIDELINES, BUT I APPRECIATE YOU EXPLAINING THAT. AND THEN THE NEXT ONE FOR, UH, CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT STATUS, JUST SO WE HAVE A PULSE, HOW FAR AWAY ARE WE, OR WHAT STEPS DO WE NEED TO TAKE, BECAUSE I LOVE SEEING THAT IN THERE. YEAH. SO, UM, WE HAD, WE HAD SUBMITTED, UM, OR CONTACTED THE STATE ABOUT CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT. AND ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT THEY, UM, REQUIRED OF US WAS TO SEPARATE OUR HCPC FROM OUR PLANNING COMMISSION. SO OUR HISTORIC BOARD USED TO BE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND THEN THERE WOULD BE TWO MEMBERS THAT WOULD JOIN IF THERE WAS A HISTORIC PROJECT OR A PROJECT IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT. AND SO ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF CLG WAS TO HAVE A, UH, BODY WITH DISCRETION FOR HISTORIC PROJECTS IN HISTORIC DISTRICTS. AND SO WE DID THAT AND SEPARATED 'EM, UM, AND DID A FEW CLEANUPS IN OUR ORDINANCE. AND THEN WE WENT BACK TO TALK TO THE STATE AND THERE WAS A FEW NEW THINGS THAT, UM, OUR, IN OUR ORDINANCE THAT NEED TO BE CLEANED UP, UM, BEFORE THEY'RE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT. SO WE THINK WE'RE CLOSE, BUT WE THOUGHT WE WERE CLOSE LAST TIME. WE DID THE THINGS ON THE ON, ON THE, WHAT WE FELT LIKE WERE THE CHECKLIST ITEMS. UM, SO WE NEED TO UPDATE THAT ORDINANCE AGAIN FOR A COUPLE MORE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY BROUGHT UP. OKAY. AND READING THROUGH MY COMMENTS, I THINK EVERYTHING ELSE IS SOMETHING I LIKE OR COMMENTARY I HAD. SO THAT'S IT FOR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NICOLA, ON YOUR TURN, ON YOUR MIC, PLEASE. YOU'RE FORGETTING IT'S, YOU'LL GET USED TO IT. AND WHEN I WAS SITTING OUT THERE, I WAS YELLING AT PEOPLE, TURN YOUR MIC ON. UM, COULD WE GO BACK TO THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES OF THE HISTORIC RESOURCES? UM, ON NUMBER 10, COULD WE, WHEN WE SAY PEDESTRIANS, UM, CAN WE INCLUDE THE WORD ACCESSIBLE? UH, UM, IT'S GREAT COMMENT. SO THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES AND THE, THE VISION, THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES, THE PILLARS WERE ALL, UM, DEVELOPED BY THE GPAC MM-HMM , THEY WERE TAKEN TO THE COUNCIL, ACCEPTED BY THE COUNCIL. SO WE'RE NOT KIND OF TWEAKING THEM AS PART OF THIS EXERCISE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE DID ACKNOWLEDGE AND TALKED WITH THE GPAC AND THE COUNCIL THAT THOSE MAY EVOLVE AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS, BECAUSE THERE MAY BE THINGS THAT COME UP THAT WE HADN'T THOUGHT OF OR, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE GET INTO POLICY DRAFTING, WE WOULD WANNA CHANGE THINGS. SO GREAT COMMENT AND WE'LL PUT IT, WE'LL PUT IT DOWN AND WE MIGHT FIND THOSE EVOLVE AS PART OF THE DRAFTING OF THE ULTIMATE GENERAL PLAN IF THOSE THINGS NEED. OKAY. AND THEN ON ACTION, 1, 1 3 THE SAME SORT OF THING. CAN WE PUT IN A DA COMPLIANT AND ACCESSIBLE, UM, PLANNING FOR PRESERVATION? UH, IT'S NOT ALWAYS POSSIBLE, I KNOW, ON A HISTORIC BUILDING, BUT IT IS SOMETHING TO LOOK AT EVERY TIME WE DO SOMETHING WITH A HISTORIC BUILDING. SO AGAIN, GOOD COMMENT. OKAY. AND THEN I THINK I ONLY HAVE ONE MORE ON THIS. UM, IT DOESN'T REALLY HAVE TO DO WITH THIS SECTION, BUT ON YOUR POLICY 1.5, ENSURE CITY HAS STAFF HAVE PRESERVATION EXPERIENCE. EXPERIENCE. I WOULD, I WENT BACK THROUGH ALL THE FRAMEWORKS AND I DID NOT FIND ANYTHING IN THE FRAMEWORKS THAT CITY, CITY STAFF SHOULD HAVE A DA ACCESSIBILITY, COMPLIANCE, UM, EXPERIENCE OR KNOWLEDGE OR TRAINING. AND, AND I WOULD LOVE IT IF WE COULD PUT IT IN A FRAMEWORK SOMEWHERE. [00:50:03] I LOVED HOW THIS ONE READ UHHUH , I, I, AGAIN, A A GOOD COMMENT. I FEEL LIKE OUR, SOME OF OUR STAFF OR SOME OF OUR IN THE BUILDING DIVISION HAS, WELL, I KNOW ONE PERSON DOES HAVE THE, THE CERTIFICATE. YEAH, I, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF IN GENERAL UNDERSTANDS THE A DA AND ACCESSIBILITY, WHICH IS A STEP BEYOND THE A DA COMPLIANT. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY UNDERSTAND OR ARE CO COGNIZANT OF ALL THE REQUIREMENTS FOR IT. SO AGAIN, GREAT, GREAT COMMENT. I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHERE TO PUT IT, BUT I DON'T EITHER BECAUSE I LOOKED THROUGH ALL THE FRAMEWORKS AND I WASN'T SURE WHERE IT WOULD GO. AND THAT'S OKAY. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD COMMENT. AND I KNOW THAT RON IS WRITING DOWN ALL THE COMMENTS AS AS THEY'RE COMING UP. SO LET'S, OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ARE WE DOING BOTH FRAMEWORKS OR JUST HISTORIC TO START WITH, UH, COM QUESTIONS ON BOTH. OKAY. I'LL JUMP IN THEN WITH ONE ON PUBLIC FACILITIES. UM, YOU KNOW, THERE ACTUALLY THREE QUESTIONS HERE. ONE OF THEM, AND MAYBE I MISSED IT IN HERE, IS THERE ANYTHING, OR WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE TO PUT IN THIS SECTION SOMETHING ABOUT IDENTIFYING CITY OWNED PARCELS AND THEIR POTENTIAL FOR INFILL THAT MIGHT BE MORE OF A LAND USE FRAMEWORK, BUT I NOTICED WE TALK ABOUT LEVERAGING CITY OWNED SPACES FOR EDUCATION AND OTHER PROGRAMMING, AND I JUST WONDERED IF WE COULD THINK ABOUT THAT AS, I MEAN, IT'S A PUBLIC FACILITY IF IT'S A CITY OWNED PARCEL. SO I, I GUESS WOULD THAT BE APPROPRIATE HERE? IS THAT CONSIDERED AT ALL? RON? I I DON'T KNOW IF YOU IF IT'S IN HERE ALREADY, SOMETHING SPECIFIC OR MEGAN, HI MEGAN. HELLO . UH, THAT IS NOT CURRENTLY IN THERE, BUT THAT IS A GREAT IDEA. AND I'M NOT SURE RON, IF THAT'S, IF SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS IN THE LAND USE FRAMEWORK, BUT, UM, WE CAN CERTAINLY CONSIDER HOW TO BEST INTEGRATE AND WHERE YES, WE TOOK, UH, WE'VE NOTED THAT DOWN. THAT'S A, A GOOD QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER, WHETHER WHERE IT WOULD LAND, BUT THAT'S A GOOD POINT. IT SHOULD BE, SHOULD BE, UH, CLEAR, CLEARLY LAID OUT SOMEWHERE. WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT. WOULD WE, WOULD WE THEN LINK THAT TO THE SURPLUS LANDS ACT AND, AND ESTABLISHING POLICY AND PROCEDURE FOR COMPLIANCE? I MEAN, THEORETICALLY THAT, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS, RIGHT? IF WE'RE GONNA IDENTIFY, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT COMMISSIONER CUSSONS COMMENT MADE ME THINK OF THE SURPLUS LAND ACT IMMEDIATELY, WHICH ALREADY IS A REQUIREMENT. SO YEAH, I THINK WE WOULD HAVE TO. AND WHAT IS THE SURPLUS LAND ACT TO SHOW MY NASCENT HERE? YEAH, IT'S PRETTY COMPLICATED. AND I'LL BE HONEST, I, IT'S VERY, VERY COMPLICATED THAT A LOT OF CITY ATTORNEYS ARE HAVING DIFFICULTY KIND OF COMPREHENDING AND HCD THEIR GUIDANCE ISN'T THE CLEAREST, BUT IT'S ESSENTIALLY THE CITY, IF IT EVER WANTS TO SELL OR LEASE ITS PROPERTY FOR I WANNA SAY OVER FIVE YEARS, IT NEEDS TO, UH, FIRST HAVE COUNCIL DECLARE IT SURPLUS AND THEN OFFER IT FOR SALE OR LEASE TO NON-PROFITS OR OTHER AGENTS PUBLIC AGENCIES THAT, UH, WILL USE THE PROPERTY FOR HOUSING. UM, AND THEN I THINK THERE'S LIKE A 90 DAY PERIOD WHERE THERE IS SOME SORT OF BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE AGENCIES AND THE NONPROFITS, WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANNA PURCHASE AT LEASE THE CITY LAND. AND IF THE 90 DAYS DOES NOT GO THROUGH WITH ANY SALE, THEN THE CITY CAN PUT IT ON THE OPEN MARKET AND ANYBODY CAN PURCHASE IT. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD NUTSHELL OF IT. BUT YEAH. WELL, THANK YOU FOR GOING OFF ON THAT JAG LEARNED SOMETHING NEW, . UM, SO THANK YOU FOR TAKING IN THAT FEE, THAT QUESTION SLASH FEEDBACK. UH, AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD, I WASN'T SURE IF IT WAS SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED IN HERE AGAIN, IF IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE, THIS ISSUE OF DOWNTOWN BATHROOMS. WE'VE HEARD THIS BEFORE, AGAIN, IN MY READING THIS DOCUMENT, DID I MISS SOMETHING? IS IT IN THERE, IS IT APPROPRIATE TO HAVE IN THERE? IF NOT, UH, THAT IS NOT IN THERE. UM, AND AGAIN, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN EVALUATE AND CONSIDER WHERE BEST WOULD GO. OKAY. YEAH, I KNOW THAT'S A BIG ONE TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THAT FITS, BUT YEAH, LOVE TAKING THE NOTE AND SEEING WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT. AND THEN IF, UH, SOMEONE ON STAFF CAN JUST SPEAK TO, YOU KNOW, WHEN I LOOK THROUGH THESE, OBVIOUSLY NOT EVERY POLICY, WHEN WE GO FROM GOALS TO POLICIES, NOT EVERY POLICY HAS A REALLY ROBUST LIST OF ACTIONS. UH, THE FAIRGROUND STUCK OUT TO ME AS ONE THAT HAS ALL POLICIES WITH NO ACTIONS PER SE. AND I JUST WONDERED IF YOU COULD TALK ABOUT THE LOGIC BEHIND THAT. UM, I HAD A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC ASKED ME ABOUT IT, SO I THINK IT'S GOOD JUST TO TALK ABOUT THE, THE THOUGHT AROUND KEEPING IT MORE GENERAL AT THIS POINT. I CAN SPEAK TO THAT GENERALLY. AND THEN I'LL, UH, ASK MEGAN IF SHE HAS ANY SPECIFIC THOUGHTS ON, [00:55:01] UM, WHETHER WE MIGHT ADD ACTIONS TO THE FAIRGROUNDS POLICIES, UH, BIG PICTURE. AND, UM, WE'RE GONNA IN THE ADMIN DRAFT AND PUBLIC DRAFT GENERAL PLAN MAKE THIS CLEARER GOALS AND, AND ACTIONS SERVE DIFFERENT DISTINCT PURPOSES IN A GENERAL PLAN. A POLL A, A POLICY REALLY IN IN ITS ESSENCE IS DESIGNED TO PROVIDE A CLEAR DIRECTION TO INFORM FUTURE DECISION MAKING. THERE ARE, THERE COULD BE MANY CASES WHERE TO IMPLEMENT A POLICY, THERE'S NOT NECESSARILY AN ACTION TO BE TAKEN, IT'S SIMPLY A POLICY STATED TO INFORM COULD BE A PLANNING COMMISSION'S FUTURE DECISION IF IT, IF IT PROVIDES DIRECTION RELATED TO FUTURE LAND USES, UM, COULD PROVIDE DIRECTION FOR OTHER CCBS OR CITY COUNCIL. UM, SO EACH POLICY DOES NOT NECESSARILY REQUIRE OR MERIT AN ACTION. UM, THAT BEING SAID, AS YOU'VE OBSERVED, MANY, MANY DO. AND SO, UM, OFTEN TO ACHIEVE A GOAL, YOU NEED BOTH CLEAR POLICIES AND THEN TO, TO FULFILL THE DIRECTION ESPOUSED BY THE POLICY IS OFTEN HELPFUL TO TAKE SPECIFIC ACTION STEPS ARTICULATED AS PO UH, PROGRAMS, PROJECTS OR OTHER, OR IMPLEMENTING ACTIONS. MEGAN, ANY SPECIFIC THOUGHTS ON THE FAIRGROUNDS GOALS AND PO GOAL AND POLICY SPECIFICALLY? YEAH, YOU KNOW, I'M LOOKING THROUGH THIS RIGHT NOW AND I ACTUALLY THINK THE FIRST POLICY IS THE PROGRAM MERITS AND ACTION, RIGHT? IT'S CREATE A, A FAIRGROUNDS MASTER PLAN OFTEN IN THE POLICY FRAMEWORKS WHEN THERE ARE PLANS THAT SPRING AS A RESULT OF THE POLICIES. WE DO LIST 'EM AS ACTIONS. UM, I BELIEVE WHEN WE WROTE THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S MAYBE SOME, NOT AMBIGUITY, BUT I, I THINK AT THE TIME I WASN'T, I I'M NOT QUITE SURE IF LIKE THEY WANTED TO COMMIT TO A CERTAIN DIRECTION FOR SOME OF, FOR THE, THE FAIRGROUNDS. HEATHER AND RON, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. SO I THINK BY KEEPING IN A POLICY LANGUAGE, IT KEEPS IT A LITTLE BIT MORE OPEN-ENDED, BUT, UM, I THINK AS WE'RE WRITING THE PLAN AND THE DIRECTION IS MAYBE MORE SOLIDIFIED, WE CAN, WE CAN ADD ACTIONS TO SUPPORT THESE POLICIES. AND I CAN ADD TO THAT, MEGAN. YEAH, WE'RE PLANNING TO DO A MASTER PLAN FOR THE FAIRGROUNDS AND THAT'S GONNA BE A PROCESS AND THAT'S GONNA BE KIND OF A MINI E YOU KNOW, VISIONING COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS FOR THE CITY. SO WE WANTED TO BE REALLY CAREFUL THAT IN THOSE AREAS, SIMILARLY WITH THE SPECIFIC PLAN THAT WE'RE PLANNING TO DO AROUND THE CORONA STATION, WE WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE THEM, THE, THESE IMPORTANT AREAS IN OUR COMMUNITY, BUT WE DON'T WANNA KIND OF GET OUT AHEAD OF THAT REALLY FOCUSED COMMUNITY CONVERSATION. SO I, I THINK THAT'S WHY THE FAIRGROUNDS IS WRITTEN AS IT IS. OBVIOUSLY WE'D BE REMISS BY JUST NOT MENTIONING THE FAIRGROUNDS, BUT WE ALSO DIDN'T WANT TO PUT SUCH DETAIL IN IT THAT IT KIND OF WATERED DOWN THE PROCESS THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO DO. THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE AND WERE MY THOUGHTS ON READING IT, BUT I KNOW IT'S A BIG ISSUE, SO THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING. I'M GONNA GO TO BLAKE FIRST 'CAUSE HE HAD FLAGGED A QUESTION. UM, THANK YOU. I JUST HAD A, A FOLLOW UP ON THE FAIRGROUNDS POINT. I APPRECIATE NOT BEING AS SPECIFIC WITH THIS ELEMENT ONLY BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF FEELINGS ABOUT THIS AND THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION AND HAS BEEN A LOT OF MISINFORMATION, UH, WITH THAT IN MIND AND NOT TRYING TO DIVE INTO SPECIFIC POLICIES, CAN, CAN YOU GIVE US A SNAPSHOT OF WHAT AT LEAST THE, THE COMMUNITY CONVERSATION PROCESS FOR BUILDING THE MASTER PLAN WILL START TO LOOK LIKE? I'M JUST CURIOUS TO KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN PUT IN HERE TO JUST ANCHOR THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE. BECAUSE I ALSO GOT A, A LOT OF EMAILS ABOUT THIS SUBJECT. UM, I'M NOT SURE THAT I HAVE ANYTHING MORE SPECIFIC THAN THIS. WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO ALSO DO, BECAUSE WE DID THE HEALTHY DEMOCRACY PROCESS MM-HMM. , WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ASPECTS DID NOT GET LOST. UM, BECAUSE THAT WAS A PROCESS WE WENT THROUGH AND GOT SOME REALLY GOOD FEEDBACK. SO THAT IS SOME OF THE PRINCIPLES OR THE, THE BASICS THAT YOU SEE UNDER THERE UNDER IS TO MAKE SURE WE KEEP THOSE 'CAUSE THAT'S OUR STARTING POINT. ABSOLUTELY. RIGHT. THAT'S, AND THEN, UM, THE LANGUAGE ABOUT THE FAIR, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S BEEN ANOTHER IMPORTANT THING THAT HAS BEEN PART OF THE COMMUNITY CONVERSATION SO FAR. [01:00:01] SO THE CONNECTIVITY, THE PUBLIC ACCESS. SO WE, WHAT WE TRIED TO DO THOSE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED THROUGH THE HEALTHY AND DEMOCRACY PROCESS, THROUGH THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE, THE, UM, OWNERSHIP AND AND OPERATIONS ON THAT PROPERTY. WE'VE TRIED TO AT LEAST HAVE ENOUGH TO KIND OF TAKE US THROUGH WHERE WE'VE BEEN, BUT THEN THAT WILL BE THE LAUNCHING POINT FOR STARTING A MASTER PLANNING PROCESS. GOT IT. THANK YOU. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE, TO BE FRANK, IT'S GOING TO BE KIND OF BUILD OUT THE INPUT YOU'VE ALREADY GOTTEN AND THEN TRY AND GET FEEDBACK ONCE YOU'VE KIND OF BUILT OUT A FOUNDATION FOR IT. WELL, IT'S GOING TO BE CREATING A COMMUNITY INPUT PROCESS, ENGAGEMENT PROCESS, NOT STARTING FROM SCRATCH. MM-HMM. BECAUSE WE DO ALREADY HAVE SOME INPUT, LIKE ALL THESE THINGS THAT ARE ALREADY IN HERE, USING THOSE AS THE STARTING POINT TO GO OUT AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU DO A MASTER PLAN, IT'S A, IT'S A FINER, FINER LEVEL THAN A GENERAL PLAN. SO IT WILL, IT WILL BE LOOKING AT THINGS AT A FINER GRAIN, I WOULD ASSUME, THAN THE BIG GENERAL PLAN. GOT IT. THANK YOU. I'LL GO TO BRENT AND THEN YOU NICOLA. GO AHEAD BRENT. BRENT, FIRST I THINK MY QUESTION IS SOMEWHAT BEING ANSWERED IS THE CONVERSATION AROUND THE FAIRGROUNDS IS UNFOLDING, BUT JUST TO BE CLEAR, WE WILL INITIATE THE MASTER PLAN PROCESS ONCE THE GENERAL PLAN IS ADOPTED OR WILL IT GO CONCURRENTLY? I THINK IT'S GONNA BE CONCURRENT IF I'M, IF I'M UP TO DATE, I THINK IT'S GONNA START BEFORE THE GENERAL PLAN IS, IS ADOPTED. DON'T HOLD ME TO THAT, BUT THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. I I, I'M THINKING AS I'M LISTENING TO THE CONVERSATION, I'M WONDERING IF MAYBE, UH, A QUESTION FOR, FOR CONSIDERATION BY THE COMMISSION IS, DO THEY FEEL THAT THE LANGUAGE THAT THEY'RE SEEING IN THE DRAFT FRAMEWORK IS SUFFICIENT ENOUGH TO CREATE THAT OPPORTUNITY WITHIN THE GENERAL PLAN FOR THE FAIRGROUNDS MASTER PLANNING EFFORT TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND TO BE SUPPORTED? UM, AND, AND MAYBE THAT'S THE WAY THAT THE COMMISSION WANTS TO LOOK AT THIS, THIS PART OF, OF THIS FRAMEWORK. ANY FOLLOW UP? BRENT, I'M, I'M GONNA HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION IN A MOMENT. I JUST NEED TO KIND OF CONCEPTUALIZE IT. SURE. UH, THEN ON TO NICOLA, I HAD SOME QUESTIONS ON THE PUBLIC FACILITIES FRAMEWORK AND COMMENTS. ARE WE DOING QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS? JUST, JUST QUESTIONS. JUST QUESTIONS. UM, THAT, SO I THINK THAT THE, THE BEST QUESTION IS, UM, ON 1.5, UM, IT SAYS A DA COMPLIANT SIDEWALKS AND PASS OR WALKWAYS AND PASS. UM, CAN THAT BE CHANGED TO SIDEWALKS, WALKWAYS, PATH, AND TRAILS? 'CAUSE SOMETIMES YOU GET THE ANSWER. WELL, IT, THAT'S NOT THE WORDING AND WE'D NEED TO COVER ALL THOSE WORDINGS. AND THEN THE REST I THINK I HAVE ON THIS IS COMMENTS. I'M SORRY, NICOLA, CAN I, I GOT WALKWAYS PATHS, TRAILS, BUT I THINK I MISSED ONE OR TWO SIDEWALKS, WALKWAYS, PATHS AND TRAILS. GOT IT. THANKS. WE HAVE ALL OF THEM. THANK YOU. RON, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ON THE HISTORIC RESOURCES OR PUBLIC FACILITIES POLICY FRAMEWORKS? LIKE YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO ASK FOR ON THE HISTORIC RESOURCES FRAMEWORK. I, I'VE SEEN A LOT OF THE UPDATES THAT HAVE COME WITH THIS. SO I'VE, I'VE TRIED NOT TO INVOKE TOO MANY QUESTIONS IN THE DISCUSSION, BUT ON PAGE SIX IT'S TALKING ABOUT, UH, THE LAST BULLET POINT. UH, HISTORIC AND CULTURAL RESOURCES CAN INCLUDE BOTH TANGIBLE AND INTANGIBLE RESOURCES. UH, IT SAYS NATIVE AMERICAN ALONG WITH ASIAN, RUSSIAN AND SPANISH COMMUNITIES HAVE CONTRIBUTED AND IT KIND OF GOES DOWN THE LINE. I WAS JUST WONDERING, WE, WE HAD A FAIRLY SIZABLE JEWISH COMMUNITY IN THE FOUNDING OF PETALUMA. I WAS JUST WONDERING WHY THAT WASN'T INCLUDED. I CAN JUMP IN HERE. UM, THERE'S NO PARTICULAR REASON THAT WASN'T INCLUDED. THAT'S JUST AN OVERSIGHT IN THAT SENTENCE. UM, WE COULD CERTAINLY, UH, INCLUDE THAT IN REVISIONS. THIS WAS KIND OF, UH, JUST A SUMMARY OF EXISTING CONDITIONS, BUT CERTAINLY THAT'S EXACTLY THE KIND OF HISTORY THAT WE WOULD WANNA SEE [01:05:01] CAPTURED IN FUTURE DESIGNATIONS AND UM, PLANNING IN PETALUMA. THANK YOU. IF WE COULD GET THAT CHANGED, THAT'D BE APPRECIATED. THANK YOU. OKAY, LAST CALL FOR QUESTIONS ON HISTORIC RESOURCES AND PUBLIC FACILITIES. SEEING NONE, WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. LOOKING OUT AT OUR VAST AUDIENCE. SEEING NONE, I'LL ASK, UH, DID WE RECEIVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT PRIOR TO THE MEETING? WE RECEIVED? NO PUBLIC COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING. OKAY. THEN WE'LL GO INTO COMMISSIONER COMMENT ON THESE TWO FRAMEWORKS, HISTORIC RESOURCES AND PUBLIC FACILITIES. DO WE WANNA DO THE AD HOC FIRST SO WE WE CAN DO WE OKAY. THE AD HOC PRESENTATION SO THAT WE CAN DO COMMENTS LIKE ALTOGETHER. SURE. HAPPY TO DO THAT. UM, YOU WANT ME TO TAKE THE LEAD ON IT OR, OKAY. UH, , SO FLOOD RESILIENCE WAS THE TOPIC OR ONE OF THREE, UH, FRAMEWORKS THAT BLAKE AND I REVIEWED IN OUR AD HOC. AND AS THE COMMISSION KNOWS, WE'VE UM, HAD SEBASTIAN GRACES WITH HIS PRESENCE AT A NUMBER OF MEETINGS AND WE APPRECIATE HIS TIME AND EXPERTISE. UM, AND IT'S VERY MUCH REFLECTED IN THE FRAMEWORK. UM, IN TERMS OF OUR NOTES FROM THE AD HOC, WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TO WARRANT A POWERPOINT , SO THAT'S A GOOD SIGN. . UM, THE TRULY ONLY NOTE, UM, THAT I PULLED FROM THAT FRAMEWORK WAS RELATED TO 5.1 0.6, WHICH IS ON PAGE 29 33 IF YOU'RE IN THE PDF. UM, AND IT READS AS CURRENTLY DESCRIBED IN THE PETALUMA IMPLEMENTING ZONING ORDINANCE, PROHIBIT ANY DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE REGULATORY FLOODWAY, WHICH REMOVES VEGETATION, RESTRICTS OR REDUCES THE CARRYING CAPACITY OF THE FLOODWAY OR ADDS IMPERVIOUS AREA. AND THE SUGGESTION WAS TO FURTHER SUGGEST TO, UH, ALSO PRECLUDE STORING OF POTENTIALLY HARMFUL WASTE CHEMICALS OR INORGANIC MATERIALS WHICH COULD POLLUTE WATERWAYS. SO JUST IN ADDITION TO THE SORT OF NOTION HERE OF MAKING THE FLOODWAY AS ABSORBENT AS IT COULD, ALSO KEEPING ANYTHING HARMFUL OUT OF IT. UM, TOTALLY OPEN TO THE NOTE THAT THAT'S REDUNDANT OR COVERED ELSEWHERE. BUT WANTED TO ADD THAT WE WISH TO KEEP HARMFUL WASTE AND CHEMICALS OUT OF OUR WATERWAYS. LIKE, AND THEN I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSCORE CONSIDERING HOW THOROUGH THE INITIAL PRESENTATION ON THIS WAS, THIS WAS PERHAPS THE MOST DETAILED OF THE FRAMEWORKS THAT WE REVIEWED. IT ALSO HAD THE MOST SPECIFIC POLICY, ACTIONS AND DETAIL RELATED TO WHAT THE OUTCOMES WERE SUPPOSED TO BE. UH, WE DID CHECK, I KNOW I HAD FRIENDS FROM BOTH FRIENDS OF THE PETALUMA RIVER AS WELL AS SEVERAL OTHER ECOLOGY FRIENDS. CHECK IN TO TAKE A LOOK AT ANY OF THIS TO SEE IF THERE WAS ANY, ANYTHING WE MIGHT HAVE BEEN MISSING. I PRETTY MUCH GOT UNIFORM APPLAUSE FOR THE CITY BACK ON THIS ITEM. UH, IT, ESPECIALLY WITH MODELING, IT COVERS A LOT OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS, OR AT LEAST FOR AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN ON IT. EXACTLY THIS KIND OF TRYING TO FORESEE WHAT'S COMING AND BE ABLE TO PLAN ACCORDINGLY WITH OUR BUILDING STANDARDS AND OUR PLACEMENTS. SO, UH, WE REALLY LOOKED WITH A FINE TOOTH COMB, BUT HONESTLY IT WAS THE ONE CHANGE AND THE REST OF IT IT SEEMED AS THOUGH IF WE WERE TO KIND OF PASS THAT BOUNDARY OF PILLAR TO BEING OVERLY PRESCRIPTIVE, THEN WE'D BE MISSING THE POINT. SO I'LL ADD THAT THERE WAS ONE MORE THOUGHT THAT BLAKE TALKED ME OUT OF, BUT I'M GONNA THROW IT IN JUST TO PREEMPTIVELY 'CAUSE IT'LL PROBABLY COME BACK IN THE POLICY CONVERSATION WHEN WE GET TO THAT STAGE. BUT AS WE'VE ALL ACKNOWLEDGED, THIS IS A VERY DETAILED, SOME MIGHT SAY DENSE FRAMEWORK, , UM, AND A LOT OF DENSE MATERIAL. THAT'S ALL VERY IMPORTANT. SO I'D LOVE, UM, WHEN WE GET TO IT TO HAVE A VERY CLEAR SENTENCE THAT WE'LL BE ON PROJECT PAGES IN STAFF REPORTS WHEN WE'RE GETTING DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. I JUST WANT A REALLY CLEAR LINE THAT SAYS THE PREDICTED 500 YEAR, WHATEVER THE FLOOD WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THIS MANY FEET AND THE FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATION IS THIS MANY FEET. UM, BECAUSE I THINK WE OBVIOUSLY DO, UH, IN OTHER CONVERSATIONS SEEK TO DEPRIORITIZE OUR BUILDING AROUND THE RIVER, BUT WILL STILL HAVE SOME THINGS THAT HAVE MITIGATION MEASURES MAKING THEM SAFE. AND WE WANNA REALLY [01:10:01] HIGHLIGHT THAT THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF THOUGHT PUT INTO THOSE MITIGATION MEASURES. AND WHILE IT MAY SEEM LIKE IT'S IN A REALLY FLOOD PRONE AREA. WE'VE ACTUALLY THOUGHT ABOUT THAT AND, AND BUILT TO A STANDARD THAT WILL KEEP IT SAFE. AND I JUST WANT THAT TO BE A, A CONSISTENT, CLEAR SENTENCE, UH, THAT CAN BE REFERENCED ACROSS DOCUMENTS. I ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON FLOOD RESILIENCE BEFORE WE FINALLY PUT THIS FRAMEWORK DOWN? FOR PLANNING COMMISSION. NEVER, NEVER ANY FURTHER COMMISSION COMMENT. OKAY. THEN CAN WE GO INTO COMMISSION COMMENT FOR THE HISTORIC RESOURCE AND PUBLIC FACILITIES? ANY COMMENTS ON HISTORIC RESOURCE AND PUBLIC FACILITY FRAMEWORKS? OKAY, WE'LL LET DARREN GO. UH, YEAH, SO JUST TO GIVE SOME COMMENTARY, UM, LET ME GO DOWN HERE. UH, ONE THING THAT I SAW AGAIN IN HISTORIC RESOURCES WAS TDR TRANSFER DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS SHOWS UP THROUGHOUT. I'M SURE IT'LL BE IN LAND USE. UM, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND FROM PAN TOUGH, PAM TUF AT OUR LAST MEETING, SOMETHING THAT EXISTED IN THE PAST AND HAS BEEN USED IN PETALUMA CURRENTLY. NOT A ROBUST. SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT THAT IRONED DOWN. AND WE'RE, AND I DON'T WANNA PUT TOO MUCH ON A TDR SYSTEM THAT HAS YET TO BE FIGURED OUT. SO ANYWAY, THAT'S JUST A BIG QUESTION MARK FOR ME THAT I SEE THROUGHOUT. UM, YOU KNOW, IN THE FIRST AREA WE TALK ABOUT OR THE, UH, EXISTING CONDITIONS, PETALUMA DOES NOT MAINTAIN A COMPREHENSIVE LIST OF IDENTIFIED ELIGIBLE HISTORIC RESOURCES. I DON'T KNOW HOW PRACTICAL THAT IS. IT IS LATER ON SAID TO CONSIDER ESTABLISHING BASICALLY A GIS DATABASE OF IDENTIFIED ELIGIBLE HISTORIC RESOURCES. SO I WOULD ADVOCATE FOR THAT. I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. UH, AND I THINK FOR FRONT LOADED FUTURE PLANNING EFFORTS, HAVING THAT KIND OF INFORMATION IS REALLY HELPFUL. UM, AND THEN THE OTHER ONE JUST THINGS I LIKE, UH, , I THINK HR ACTION, HR 1.6 0.3 IS GOOD. I WROTE IN HERE, DEPENDING ON HOW IT'S IMPLEMENTED, BUT I, I LIKE THAT IDEA OF GETTING FUNDING FOR, YOU KNOW, DEDICATED HISTORIC PRESERVATION FUND. UM, ALL OF GOAL HR TWO, I JUST MARKED. I SAID, I REALLY LIKE THIS, SO THAT'S GREAT. UM, AND OH, THE OTHER ONE THAT I THOUGHT STOOD OUT TO ME WAS UNDER POLICY 2.3. THIS IS 2.3 0.5. IT WAS INTERESTING. WE ALLOCATE FUNDS FOR THE MAINTENANCE MONITORING AND PLANTING OF STREET TREES AND DESIGNATED HISTORIC DISTRICTS AS APPROPRIATE TO THE HISTORIC CHARACTER. THAT STOOD OUT TO ME AS SOMETHING I DIDN'T SEE IN OTHER FRAMEWORKS. UM, AND I ASSUME THAT'S THE CITY PUTTING FORWARD FUNDS TO OBVIOUSLY TO PLANT MAINTAIN THOSE TREES, WHICH WOULD BE AN INTERESTING, I, I GUESS THIS WOULD BE KIND OF A PILOT FOR WHERE WE'RE DOING THAT. 'CAUSE RIGHT NOW, THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY IS ALWAYS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PROPERTY OWNER. UH, SO THAT STOOD OUT TO ME AS LIKE AN INTERESTING FLAG IN THE GROUND TO PLANT. IT'S KIND OF A TEST BED IN HISTORIC DISTRICTS. UM, SO I, I, I LIKE THAT IDEA. I'M CURIOUS TO SEE HOW THAT GETS EXPANDED UPON. UH, BUT THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS FOR THE HISTORIC DISTRICTS, AND WE ALREADY REALLY COVERED MY COUPLE POINTS FOR PUBLIC FACILITIES. SO I THINK I'M COVERED ON COMMENTS. OKAY. FURTHER COMMENTS, NICOLA? UM, I HAVE SOME COMMENTS ON THE PUBLIC FACILITIES. ONE, UM, IN THE FIRST SECTION, THE GOAL, HIGH QUALITY PUBLIC FACILITIES. UM, I WOULD LOVE IF WE COULD PUT IN, UM, PLAN DESIGN AND CONSTRUCT A NEW CENTRALLY LOCATED SENIOR CENTER, OR ALTERNATIVELY DESIGN AND PLAN A RENOVATION OF THE EXISTING SENIOR CENTER WITH ADDITIONAL SATELLITE CENTERS LOCATED IN OTHER AREAS AROUND THE CITY. IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS ON, ON THE SENIOR CENTER NOW. UM, AND THEN, UM, UNDER 1 6 5, WHICH IS THE, UH, I THINK 1 6 5 HAD TO DO WITH, OH, IT HAD TO DO WITH ELECTRICAL. UM, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE CITY DEVELOP AND IMPLEMENT IN ALL CITY FACILITIES AND A CITYWIDE PROGRAM TO MOVE FROM FLUORESCENT TUBE LIGHTING TO LED LIGHTING TUBES. THERE ARE TUBES LEDS THAT CAN REPLACE THESE BOTH. IT IS BETTER FOR VISUALIZATION, IT'S BETTER FOR THE ECONOMY, IT'S BETTER FOR CARBON FOOTPRINT. IT'S, UM, BETTER FOR THE ENVIRONMENT. [01:15:02] UM, AND, AND IT CUTS YOUR UTILITY COSTS BY 60 TO 80% BECAUSE YOU CAN PLAY, REPLACE EACH OF THESE TWO TUBES WITH ONE SINGULAR LED TUBE, AND THEY CAN WORK ON THE SAME BALLAST. SO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE CITY IMPLEMENT SOMETHING LIKE THAT, UM, WITHIN THE FRAMEWORKS. AND MY LAST THING IS UNDER 2.3, ACTUALLY, THAT WOULD BE NEW. 2.2 THERE IS EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES, IS THIS SECTION SUPERIOR EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES. UM, AND THE FIRST ONE IS COORDINATE WITH SCHOOL DISTRICTS SUPPORT, CHILDCARE AND PRE-KINDERGARTEN, AND THEN IT ENDS. AND I WOULD LOVE A SUPPORT EDUCATION AND RECREATION FOR SENIORS AND THE DISABLED TO PUT IN THERE. AND I ACTUALLY SENT HEATHER THE LIST OF THE FOUR COMPONENTS THAT I THOUGHT, OR FIVE COMPONENTS THAT I THOUGHT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR THAT. CURRENTLY 35% OF PETALUMA IS SENIORS. UM, IT'S GOING TO GO TO 45 TO 50% IN THE NEXT FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS. UM, DISABLED IS 25% OF PETALUMA'S POPULATION, BUT SENIORS HAVE NOW BEEN PUT IN THAT CATEGORY AS A DA APPLICANTS AND, UM, AND GET A DA, UM, STATUS. AND THAT TAKES US UP TO A HUGE QUANTITY OF PEOPLE WHO NEED SENIOR, WHO NEED CITY FACILITIES. AND SO I THINK THAT WE HAVE NOT STRESSED IN MOST OF THESE FRAMEWORKS, HOUSE SENIORS AND DISABLED NEED THESE FACILITIES. AND THAT'S MY COMMENTS. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? I'LL JUST ADD ONE, UH, A QUICK THANK YOU, UH, FOR CONTINUING TO EMPHASIZE THE EQUITY ACROSS, UH, EAST AND WEST PETALUMA. I LIKE THAT WE KEEP SEEING THAT AND, UH, VERY APPROPRIATE TO HAVE IT ACROSS THE PUBLIC FACILITIES FRAMEWORK AS WELL. OH, ONE MORE UNDER THE WIRE. THIS MIGHT HAVE SOME INTERSECTION WITH THE HOUSING ELEMENT. UM, SO WITH THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION FRAMEWORK, UM, I, I DON'T RECALL THE, THE, THE POLICY NUMBER OR THE, OR THE, THE GOAL. UH, BUT IN TERMS OF ENCOURAGING INFILL DEVELOPMENT, UM, WITHIN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, UM, HOW DOES THAT DO, IS THERE SOMETHING IN THE HOUSING ELEMENT THAT TALKS ABOUT THE CITY REVISITING THE FEE STRUCTURE FOR REVIEW BY THE HISTORIC, SORRY, THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE OR, OR OTHER FEES ASSOCIATED WITH INFILL DEVELOPMENT IN THAT, UM, AS IT'S HISTORIC SPECIFICALLY RELATES TO, UM, HISTORIC PRESERVATION? WE DO HAVE A LOT ABOUT LOOKING BACK AT OUR IMPACT FEES. MM-HMM. AND HAVING, UM, IMPACT FEES BE BASED ON A SQUARE FOOTAGE. MM-HMM. INSTEAD OF A PER UNIT. MM-HMM. , SOME OF THOSE KIND OF THINGS. UM, BUT NOT, UM, NOT HISTORIC PRESERVATION. WE DO, UM, OUR INTERNAL PROCESS FOR, UM, HISTORIC PRESERVATION FOR HOMEOWNERS. MM-HMM. IS SUBSIDIZED TO KEEP COSTS DOWN. MM-HMM. . UM, BUT WE DON'T SUBSIDIZE THAT IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, A A, AN APARTMENT DEVELOPER WOULD COME IN, IN A HISTORIC PRESERVATION IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT. RIGHT. IT'S MORE FOR THE HOMEOWNER WHO WANTS TO RENOVATE THEIR HOME. OKAY. UM, MAYBE I'M, I'M GETTING FAR AFIELD, BUT I, I SEEM TO RECALL THAT, THAT THERE WAS A FEE ASSOCIATED WITH, LET'S SAY THERE'S AN INFILL DEVELOPMENT AND IT NEEDS TO BE REVIEWED BY THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION. AM I USING THE RIGHT TERM? YEAH. OR PRESERVATION COMMITTEE. THEN THERE'S A FEE FOR THAT REVIEW PROCESS THAT'S CHARGED TO THE HOMEOWNER WHO'S DOING THE INFILL, LIKE A DU OR, UM, SO THERE'S OUR, THERE'S OUR, UH, PLANNING ENTITLEMENT DEPOSIT AND THE, AND THE FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. UM, SO THE COST OF, RIGHT. AND THAT'S CITYWIDE, THAT'S NOT JUST HISTORIC PRESERVATION. ANYTHING THAT IS A DISCRETIONARY REVIEW STAFF TIME IS, IS CHARGED TO THE APPLICANT. WHAT WE DO DO TO REDUCE COSTS FOR A HOMEOWNER IN, IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT IS WE KEEP THOSE LOW. UM, BUT THAT DOESN'T APPLY WHEN YOU SAY INFILL DEVELOPMENT, IT WOULDN'T APPLY TO SOMEBODY, [01:20:01] LET'S SAY THAT IS GONNA COME IN AND BUILD, YOU KNOW, A, A FOURPLEX OR A SIXPLEX OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. RIGHT. OR DIVIDE A LOT TO, TO CREATE ANOTHER HOME. RIGHT? SO ADUS, FOR INSTANCE, MM-HMM. , UM, THEY CANNOT BE DISCRETIONARY ANYMORE. RIGHT. SO THOSE, THE, THAT'S BY STATE LAW. OKAY. UH, SO WE HAD TO HAVE OBJECTIVE STANDARDS MM-HMM. , EVEN IN OUR HISTORIC DISTRICT FOR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS BECAUSE OF THE, THE DEMANDS COMING DOWN FROM STATE LAW THAT WE COULDN'T REQUIRE THAT. SO THERE'S BEEN A NUMBER OF THINGS SHIFTING. RIGHT. SO HAPPY TO CHAT MORE ABOUT THAT. SURE. AND, AND I THINK JUST THIS IS TURNING MORE INTO A QUESTION THAN, THAN THE COMMENT THAT I HAD, BUT, YOU KNOW, ASSOCIATED FEES WILL BE REVISITED WHEN THE IMPLEMENTING ZONING ORDINANCES CHANGED AFTER ADOPTION OF THE GENERAL PLAN. IS THAT, UM, I THINK THE ONLY THING THAT IS SPECIFIED THUS FAR IS OUR DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEES. OKAY. THANK YOU, DARREN. ONE MORE THOUGHT, ACTUALLY, BUILDING ON NICOLA'S COMMENTS MADE ME THINK OF SOMETHING, WHETHER IT'S HERE AND OR THE PARKS ELEMENT. UH, HAS THERE BEEN STAFF DISCUSSION AROUND INTERFACE WITH OUR UNSHELTERED POPULATION? UM, BECAUSE MANY TIMES THEY'RE IN INTERFACING WITH PUBLIC FACILITIES, OPEN SPACES, PARKS, THINGS LIKE THAT. HAS THAT SHOWN UP IN CONVERSATION? WHERE DOES THAT INTERSECT? AND I KNOW THERE'S A LOT WE COULD TALK ABOUT WITH THAT POLICY, AND I DON'T WANNA GET US LOST, BUT JUST WHERE DOES THAT SHOW UP IN THESE FRAMEWORKS AND EVENTUAL ELEMENTS? SO I'M NOT, UH, MEGAN, I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S ANY, IRAN, IF THERE'S ANYTHING IN PUBLIC FACILITIES SPECIFICALLY. OBVIOUSLY THERE IS, UM, QUITE A BIT OF CONVERSATION IN OUR HOUSING ELEMENT ABOUT, UH, OUR, OUR PROGRAMS IN OUR STRATEGIC PLAN TO, UM, TO ADDRESS HOMELESSNESS AND OUR GOING AFTER FUNDING AND, YOU KNOW, OUR SERVICES AND A LOT OF THAT. MOST OF WHAT I'M THINKING ABOUT IS WITHIN OUR HOUSING ELEMENT. SO I'M NOT SURE IF MEGAN, RON, IF THERE'S ANYTHING SPECIFIC IN OUR PARKS OR OUR PUBLIC FACILITIES FRAMEWORK AT THIS POINT. YEAH, I'M LOOKING THROUGH PUBLIC FACILITIES NOW AND I DON'T SEE ANYTHING SPECIFIC. SO THAT COULD BE SOMETHING TO EXPAND UPON. UM, RON, IS IT, IS THERE ANYTHING IN LAND USE? IT'S, UH, ACTUALLY IS IN THE HEALTH, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE FRAMEWORK, POLICY 6.2. UM, BUT, BUT NOTE TAKEN, I, IT IS PROBABLY ONE OF THOSE TOPICS THAT MERITS, UM, UM, MENTION IN MORE THAN ONE FRAMEWORK. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, BLAKE. UH, I JUST HAD TWO THINGS, 'CAUSE A LOT OF, A LOT OF MY QUESTIONS AND THEN COMMENTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED ON THE HISTORIC FRAMEWORK, UH, SPECIFICALLY AROUND THE TOPIC OF GIS. UH, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD, AND I'M NOT PROVIDING ANY LANGUAGE SPECIFICALLY, BUT JUST AS AN ASPECT OF HAVING THE OVERLAY, UH, IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR THE CITY OF PETALUMA TO START EFFECTIVELY TRACKING WHO HAD WHAT. WE TALK A LOT ABOUT, UH, ESPECIALLY GROWING UP HERE, WE TALK A LOT ABOUT, WE, WE HAD A SMALL CHINATOWN. WE HAD OTHER FARMERS WHO GOT KICKED OFF. WE, WE HAD, UH, THE WHOLE PERIOD IN BETWEEN NATIVE AND SPANISH SETTLERS AS, AS AN ENTIRE SAGA HERE. SO HAVING SOME KIND OF REFERENCE TOOL TO THAT SO WE CAN START TRACKING OUR HISTORY IN THAT WAY. AND NOT JUST ENTIRELY REFERENCING OUR, OUR INFRASTRUCTURE HISTORY, LIKE, DON'T GET ME WRONG, IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT THAT WE PROTECT OUR HISTORIC BUILDINGS AND OUR HISTORIC LANDMARKS. BUT BEING ABLE TO KNOW WHAT WAS AND WHAT WE LOST, I THINK GIS OFFERS A POWERFUL TOOL TO DO THAT. UM, AND THEN ON, ON PUBLIC FACILITIES, I, I WANTED TO GO BACK TO ANDREW'S FRAME WITH REGARDS TO WHETHER OR NOT THE MASTER PLAN LANGUAGE ACTUALLY ANSWERS THE QUESTION. I THINK IT DOES. UH, I MOSTLY JUST WANTED TO THANK STAFF FOR NOT TRYING TO TAKE THIS INTO A MORE DETAILED PLACE BEFORE THAT WAS ALL DONE, IF ONLY BECAUSE GIVEN EVERYTHING THE CITY'S GONE THROUGH WITH THE FAIRGROUNDS, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE FINALLY IN A PLACE FOR EVERYONE TO WORK TOGETHER ON IT. AND MOVING SLOWLY MAY BE FRUSTRATING FOR SOME, BUT AT LEAST WE CAN BRING EVERYONE ALONG. SO THANK YOU. AND THAT'S IT. [01:25:04] FINAL ASK FOR COMMENTS ON THESE FRAMEWORKS. SEEING NONE, I THINK WE CAN CLOSE MEETING ITEM FOUR, WHICH TAKES US TO COMMISSIONER [COMMITTEE COMMENT] COMMENT. ANYONE WITH A COMMISSIONER COMMENT TO SHARE. WE'LL START WITH YOU, BLAKE. UH, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THIS BRIEFLY, AND SINCE WE ARE IN AN EMPTY ROOM, I MOSTLY JUST WANT TO SAY THIS TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, OR AT LEAST THE ONES WHO ARE HERE, WHO HAVE, WHO HAVE BEEN HERE SO FAR. AND I'M VERY EXCITED FOR BOTH BRENT AND NICOLA. UH, IT HAS BEEN AN INCREDIBLE HONOR TO BE YOUR CHAIR FOR A YEAR, AND I HAVE LEARNED AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT THAT I DID NOT EXPECT THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS. AND I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO'S BEEN INVOLVED IN GETTING US THROUGH WHAT HAVE BEEN SOME COMP, I'LL JUST SAY COMPLICATED LEARNING EXPERIENCES THAT WE'VE ALL GOTTEN THROUGH TOGETHER. AND BECAUSE I DO FEEL LIKE THIS IS A LITTLE BIT MY FAULT, I WANNA THANK EVERYONE WHO'S GONE ALONG WITH THE INSANE FRAMEWORK SCHEDULE THAT WE'VE HAD TO ENDURE. SO MUCH OF IT HAS TO DO WITH THE EIR AND OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN'T ADJUST. SO WE HAD TO MORE OR LESS DO IT THIS WAY OR ADD SO MANY MORE MEETINGS. SO I THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE THERE, AND SINCERELY SAY THAT IT HAS BEEN AN ABSOLUTE PLEASURE WORKING WITH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU IN THIS CAPACITY. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH JESSICA AS SHE TAKES ON BEING CHAIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU BLAKE. DARREN? YEAH. I'LL DO QUICK UPDATES FROM THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. UH, WE HAD UPDATES FROM A COUPLE OF OUR AD HOCS AT OUR LAST MEETING, WHICH WAS JUNE 19TH. UH, AND HAD SOME GREAT UPDATES THERE, INCLUDING PROGRESS WHERE WE ARE ABLE TO LIAISE WITH THE PG E VEGETATION MANAGEMENT TEAM. I'M EXCITED TO SEE HOW THAT PROGRESSES. UH, THERE'S BEEN SOME DESIRE FROM THE PUBLIC TO SEE THAT WE'RE DOING BEST PRACTICES WHEN PG E HAS TO REMOVE LINES FOR TELECOMMUNICATIONS AND PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE. AND OUR PUBLIC WORKS FELT THAT PUBLIC PRESSURE TO PUSH BACK ON PG E SOMETIMES, BUT FROM PG E'S SIDE, THEY NEED TO GET THEIR WORK DONE WHEN THEY'RE IN THE AREA. UH, AND SO THE TREE COMMITTEE ACTUALLY MAY HAVE A ROLE IN HELPING TO FACILITATE SOME OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND MARCH SOME THINGS TO THE FINISH LINE. SO THAT'S, THAT'S EXCITING. AND THEN AT PAC, WE HAD A PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING, UH, THAT WE WELCOMED NEW MEMBERS, UH, AND REVIEWED SOME POLICY. AND FOR THE LIFE OF ME, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS RIGHT NOW, BUT IT WAS GOOD THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT PARKING AND THE FUTURE OF PARKING. I DO REMEMBER THAT. SO, UM, BUT YES, THOSE ARE THE UPDATES FROM THOSE TWO COMMITTEES. NICOLA. UM, A COUPLE THINGS. UM, I HAD THE WONDERFUL FORTUNE OF BEING THE, ONE OF THE JUDGES AT THE DOG CON COSTUME CONTEST AT THE 4TH OF JULY EVENT. UM, IT WAS GREAT FUN. UM, I'M NOT SURE HOW I GOT INVOLVED IN IT, CONSIDERING THE OTHER THREE JUDGES WERE THE NEW POLICE CHIEF, THE CITY MANAGER, AND THE MAYOR. AND THEN THERE WAS ME NOT SURE HOW I GOT THERE. UM, BUT IT WAS GREAT FUN. IT WAS A GREAT DAY. UM, TODAY I ATTENDED A BLUE ZONE MEETING, UM, ON TWO PROJECTS THAT ARE FOR PETALUMA. AND MORE INFORMATION WILL BE COMING OUT SHORTLY ON THAT. UM, THEY'RE GONNA DO ANOTHER SURVEY TO DETERMINE NEEDS OF PATHS AND TRAILS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, AND SO THAT'S, AND THE OTHER PROJECT IS THE ONE I'VE BEEN TOUTING ABOUT DOING A SENIOR OR ALL AGE EXERCISE FACILITY IN, UM, LUCCHESE PARK. AND THEN TO THURSDAY MORNING IS OUR SENIOR ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING. YOU ARE ALWAYS INVITED, BUT WE WILL HAVE THREE NEW MEMBERS ON OUR COMMITTEE ON THURSDAY MORNING. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE. EXCELLENT. COMMISSIONER NOELL, ANY COMMENT? NO. UM, I'LL JUST PUT IN A PLUG FOR THE UPCOMING PARKLET CONVERSATION HAPPENING TOMORROW. WERE YOU GONNA TALK ABOUT THIS? OKAY. UM, IT IS AT KAVANAUGH, UH, RECREATION CENTER, SEVEN TO EIGHT 30 WITH A PRESENTATION BY BRIAN O DISCUSSING, UM, THE PARKLETS, WHICH AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, HAD, HAD BEEN, UH, UH, OF INTEREST TO A VARIETY OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS, BUT REALLY, UM, CAME TO FRUITION AS A RESULT OF THE COVID PANDEMIC. AND NOW THERE'S SORT OF A QUESTION OF HOW HAVE THEY FARED AND, AND WHAT, WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO GOING INTO THE FUTURE? SO IT'LL BE A, A GOOD CONVERSATION. AGAIN, THAT'S TOMORROW, JULY 10TH AT [01:30:01] 7:00 PM AT THE KAVANAUGH REC CENTER. REFRESHMENTS STARTING AT SIX 30, AND IT'S ON ZOOM AS WELL. UM, SO COULD BE A, A INTERESTING CONVERSATION. AND WITH THAT, I WILL CLOSE COMMISSIONER COMMENT AND [STAFF COMMENT] TURN US INTO STAFF COMMENTS. GREAT. THANK YOU, CHAIR. UM, WELL FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR, THE INCREDIBLE WORK THAT YOU PUT FORWARD, UM, ESPECIALLY THESE LAST FEW MONTHS AS, AS WE HELD SOME PUBLIC HEARINGS AND ALSO WORKED OUR WAY THROUGH THE, UH, GENERAL PLAN DRAFT POLICY FRAMEWORKS. SO, SO I'M SURE YOU'LL BE, UH, EXCITED TO LEARN THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY MEETING ITEMS SCHEDULED FOR JULY 23RD OR FOR, UM, AUGUST 13TH. SO IT DOES LOOK LIKE THE, UH, THE SUMMER BREAK THAT I PROMISED YOU IS UP ON US. AND, AND I'M GLAD THAT I, THAT WE'RE ABLE TO GIVE YOU THAT BREAK. UM, I THINK AS, AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, THE, THE GENERAL PLAN UPDATE TEAM IS MOVING RAPIDLY ON THE LAND USE FRAMEWORK, AND WE'RE CURRENTLY DISCUSSING THE BEST WAY TO, WE KNOW THAT THAT'S GONNA BE A VERY HEFTY FRAMEWORK TO REVIEW. AND CURRENTLY LOOKING AT OPTIONS FOR HOW TO GET YOU THOSE OPPORTUNITIES TO REVIEW AND, UH, DO THE WORK THAT YOU'LL WANT TO DO ON THAT FRAMEWORK, UM, AS WELL. SO, SO MORE TO COME PROBABLY VIA EMAIL ON THAT. UM, I WANNA WELCOME THE, THE TWO NEW COMMISSIONERS AND, AND, UH, THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO JOIN US FOR THE ORIENTATION, UH, THAT WE HAD FOR YOU, UH, LAST WEEK. I HOPE THAT WAS HELPFUL. AND, UM, OF COURSE, WE AND YOUR OTHER COMMISSIONERS ARE ALWAYS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. JUST BE CAREFUL HOW MANY YOU CONVENE IN ORDER TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS. UM, . SO, UH, THERE'S THAT. AND, UM, I, I DO WANT TO NOTE WE'VE, UM, COMMISSIONER KUSON AND, AND COMMISSIONER FRY, YOU BOTH HAVE, HAVE QUESTIONED HOW WE MIGHT BRING PROJECTS TO, TO THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND THE SENIOR ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UM, AND LET YOU KNOW THAT I AM WORKING ON A COUPLE OF IDEAS THERE. UM, WE DO NEED SOME FRAMEWORK IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND WHICH PROJECTS WOULD, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THOSE CRITERIA THAT WOULD, UM, WOULD WE WOULD WANT TO BRING A PROJECT FORWARD FOR REVIEW. AND SO THEN ALSO ALONG THAT, THOSE LINES, I'M THINKING ABOUT PERHAPS SOME RECOMMENDED GUIDELINES THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PROVIDE TO APPLICANTS SO THAT THEY CAN LOOK, YOU KNOW, OBSERVE THOSE GUIDELINES AND THINK ABOUT THOSE DURING THEIR DESIGN DEVELOPMENT PHASE AND, UM, AND TRY TO WORK TO ACHIEVE CHIEF CITY'S GOALS THERE AS WELL. SO I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ON THOSE, UM, INDIVIDUALLY AND ASK YOU FOR SOME SUPPORT IN, IN REACHING OUT TO YOUR VER YOUR RESPECTIVE COMMITTEES. UM, AND THEN FINALLY, JUST SO THAT I KNOW WE'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF WORK, UM, WITH THE GENERAL PLAN UPDATE, BUT WE'VE ALSO, WE ALSO DO HAVE A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT REVIEW UNDERWAY. THEY JUST HAPPEN TO BE VERY LARGE PROJECTS, AND, AND THE LARGER THE PROJECT, THE MORE THAT IT, IT SETS ITS OWN PACE, RIGHT? SO, UH, WE ARE ANTICIPATING RECEIPT OF THE, THE, UM, ADMIN DRAFT, EIR FOR THE CREEKWOOD DEVELOPMENT, AND WE'LL BE REVIEWING THAT. THAT WILL BE ENTERING INTO ITS PUBLIC REVIEW PHASE, UM, HERE IN THE UPCOMING COUPLE OF WEEKS. OYSTER, UH, COVE HAS SUBMITTED ITS, UM, SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW APPLICATION. WE JUST, UH, COM CLOSED OUR COMPLETENESS REVIEW ON THAT PROJECT. AND, UM, SO WE'LL BE MOVING FORWARD WITH PLANNING REVIEW THERE. UH, SIG COMMONS AT 18 BERNICE COURT HAS, UH, RETURNED AND, AND RESUBMITTED ITS SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW APPLICATION, UH, THAT'S UNDERGOING COMPLETENESS REVIEW. AND THEN STAFF IS CONTINUING TO, UH, WORK WITH THE TEAM FROM 1221 PETALUMA BOULEVARD NORTH. THAT WAS THE RETIREMENT CARE FACILITY FOR THE ELDERLY, UH, FOR WHICH THE COMMISSION PROVIDED STUDY SESSION REVIEW IN MAY. AND, UH, SO WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE ACTIVELY PURSUING, UM, THEIR, UH, CONCEPTUAL DESIGN WORK TO, UM, TO BRING THAT PROJECT TO A DESIGN LEVEL TO SUBMIT FOR SPAR AS WELL. SO A LOT GOING ON IN THE, UM, IN THE BACKGROUND. IF YOU EVER HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US ABOUT THE STATUS OF PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED, PLEASE, UH, PLEASE REACH OUT AND, AND SOMETIMES THOSE UPDATES DON'T ALWAYS MAKE IT TO THE WEBSITE. SO WE'RE HAPPY TO BOTH ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS AND THAT ALSO TRIGGERS US TO, WELL, IT DOESN'T TRIGGER US, TRIGGER US IN THAT SENSE, BUT IT, IT, UH, NUDGES US TO UPDATE THE, UH, THE WEBPAGE FOR THE PROJECT THEN. SO WE APPRECIATE THOSE OBSERVATIONS AND, UH, THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU THIS EVENING, CHAIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY FINAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION? ALL RIGHT, THEN I WILL AT A RECORD BREAKING 7 38 AJOUR THIS MEETING. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.