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RECORDING IN PROGRESS.

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GOOD

[CALL TO ORDER]

EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PETALUMA CITY COUNCIL AND THE PETALUMA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT SUCCESSOR AGENCY FOR MONDAY, JULY 15TH, 2024.

IF YOU WISH TO PROVIDE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, UH, PLEASE FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD IN THE BACK OF THE CHAMBER AND BRING IT OVER HERE TO OUR CLERK.

AND I WILL NOW INVITE MONICA RICCIO AND MARIA GALVEZ TO PROVIDE INFORMATION TO THOSE WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN SPANISH.

THANK YOU AND GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU.

WE ARE READY.

AND THANK YOU.

MAY WE HAVE OUR ROLL CALL FOR THE EVENING, PLEASE.

YES.

UH, BARNACLE PRESENT.

PETER THOMPSON.

HERE.

HEALY HERE NOW.

HERE.

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HERE.

SCH SHRIMPS.

HERE MCDONALD.

HERE WE HAVE A QUORUM.

THANK YOU.

LET'S STAND FOR THE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO THE PROJECT OF WHICH NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY, AND A MOMENT OF SILENCE.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, LET'S

[AGENDA CHANGES AND DELETIONS (TO CURRENT AGENDA ONLY)]

LOOK AT TONIGHT'S AGENDA AND SEE IF THERE ARE ANY, UH, THINGS THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN IN DIFFERENT ORDER.

ANY DELETIONS? LOOKING UP AND DOWN THE COUNCIL AND, UH, SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR AGENDA AS, UH, PUBLISHED.

AND THAT LEADS US TO OUR

[GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT]

GENERAL PUBLIC, UH, COMMENT FOR THE EVENING.

DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON ITEMS OF PUBLIC INTEREST THAT ARE WITHIN THE CITY'S CITY COUNCIL'S SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION, AND THAT ARE NOT LISTED ON THE CURRENT AGENDA.

PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON, BUT DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF PERSONS WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL, TIME WILL BE ALLOCATED IN EQUAL SHARES TOTALING NO MORE THAN 20 MINUTES.

UH, I'D LIKE TO INVITE OUR CITY CLERK, UH, TO, UH, UH, INDICATE WHETHER WE RECEIVED ONLINE COMMENTS AND, AND THEN PROCEED RIGHT INTO OUR MESSAGING.

ABSOLUTELY.

WE DID RECEIVE 12 GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS.

THOSE ARE POSTED ONLINE.

UH, AND AT THIS TIME, I WILL START A 32ND CLOCK.

UH, FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING IN PERSON SHOULD BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARDS TO THE CLERK'S DESK IF THEY HAVE NOT ALREADY DONE SO.

SPEAKERS ARE REMINDED TO BE RESPECTFUL IN THEIR COMMENTS AND THAT THIS MEETING IS BEING TRANSLATED.

PLEASE PAUSE BETWEEN SENTENCES FOR TRANSLATION.

THANK YOU.

IT APPEARS WE HAVE 11, UH, COMMENT CARDS FOR THE EVENING, AND, UH, DIVIDING THAT INTO 20 MINUTES WILL BE A TWO MINUTES PER PERSON.

SPEAKER, UH, CLOCK SET FOR US.

OUR FIRST SPEAKER OF THE EVENING IS MAUREEN GAL TO BE FOLLOWED BY JODY JOHNSON.

HELLO, .

I'M TALKING ABOUT THE D STREET BIKE LANE PROPOSED PILOT.

I WROTE AN EMAIL ON MAY 13TH REGARDING MY CONCERNS ABOUT THE D STREET BIKE LANE, HOW THE RIGID DATA COLLECTION FOR PARKING UTILIZATION WAS COMPLETED AND REQUESTING THIRD PARTY DATA COLLECTION FOR THE PILOT STUDY.

I HAVE YET TO RECEIVE A RESPONSE FROM THE CITY.

ALSO, THERE ARE 64 OBSTRUCTIONS ON THE PROPOSED PARKING SIDE WHERE PASSENGERS ARE NOT ABLE TO GET OUT OF THEIR CARS.

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THESE OBSTRUCTIONS ARE TREES, BUSHES, AND OTHER BEAUTIFUL LANDSCAPING.

I'M NOT CONDONING REMOVING THEM THAT WILL DESTROY OUR HISTORIC TREELINE STREET.

THESE SPOTS SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN IN THE ORIGINAL PARKING COUNT.

THEY ARE NOT VALID PARKING SPOTS.

AND THIS GOES BACK TO MY ORIGINAL QUESTION REGARDING THE TRANSPORTATION DATA COLLECTION AND ITS LEGITIMACY FROM THE D STREET PROJECT UPDATE.

THIS LACK OF RESPONSE GIVES THE IMPRESSION THAT THE PILOT WAS PUSHED THROUGH BECAUSE OF AN OPPORTUNITY, AND THE DATA COLLECTION WAS AN AFTERTHOUGHT.

SEVERAL RESIDENTS VOICED THEIR CONCERNS IN APRIL REGARDING THE ANALYSIS OF THE PARKING ON D STREET, WHICH WAS THE BASIS OF THE GREEN LIGHT FOR THE PILOT.

THE CITY NEVER RESPONDED TO THIS.

AS FAR AS I'M AWARE.

THIS LACK OF RESPONSE CAUSES CONCERN THAT THE PILOT STUDY DATA COLLECTION WILL ALSO RUN INTO SIMILAR ISSUES OF TRANSPARENCY AND MEETING AUDIT STANDARDS.

I, WITH MANY OF MY FELLOW PETALUMA RESIDENTS, ARE REQUESTING ONCE AGAIN TO HAVE THE DATA COLLECTION FOR THE PILOT PROGRAM BE DONE BY A THIRD PARTY FOR TRANSPARENCY AND ASSURING THAT AUDIT STANDARDS WILL BE MET.

PLEASE RESPOND TO THIS REQUEST.

THE D STREET PROJECT UPDATE STATES THAT ALL RESIDENTS, AH, .

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

AND, UM, SHOULD ANYONE HAVE PREPARED COMMENTS TONIGHT THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TIME TO, UH, COMPLETE, UH, THEY CAN BE SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK IN WRITING OR EMAILED IN TO THE COUNCIL.

THANK YOU JODY JOHNSON TO BE FOLLOWED BY CHRIS PARKER.

GOOD EVENING CITY COUNCIL AND CITY STAFF.

TONIGHT WE REPRESENT YOUNGSTOWN LITTLE WOODS AND CAPRI MOBILE HOMES PARKS.

WE COME HERE RESPECTFULLY TO ASK FOR UPDATES TO SEEK CLARIFICATION OF SENIOR PARK OVERLAY VIOLATIONS, VERIFICATION OF APPLICATIONS OF CLOSURE FOR YOUNGSTOWN AND LITTLE WOODS GUIDANCE OF WHERE RESIDENTS AND CAPRI TURN TO READ THE CON CONVERT.

UH, COERCION INVOLVED IN LONG-TERM LEASES, GIVING AWAY THEIR RIGHTS WITHOUT THEM EVEN KNOWING THEIR RIGHTS.

MOST IMPORTANTLY, WE BRING YOU UP TO DATE ON THE MENTAL AND PHYSICAL TOLL.

THIS IS TAKING ON EACH RESIDENT.

AND DURING MULTIPLE ROUNDS OF THREATS AND RETALIATIONS FROM THESE BAD ACTOR, PARK INVESTMENT PARK OWNERS DID THREE PILLARS AND HARMONY FILE AND APPROPRIATE CLOSURE NOTICE TO THE CITY.

IN ADDRESSING CAPRI PARK OWNER'S APPLICATION RESULTING IN AN AUGUST 13TH ARBITRATION FOR 12 RESIDENTS THERE, HAS THE CITY CONSIDERED DENYING THE APPLICATION FOR ITS INCOMPLETE NATURE? HAS THE CITY TAKEN REAL ACTION AGAINST THE YOUNGSTOWN INVESTMENT PARK OWNERS FOR COMPLETELY DISREGARDING THE SENIOR PARK OVERLAY AND YOUR VIOLATION LETTERS? IF SO, WHAT ARE THE ACTIONS BEING TAKEN? WHERE DO THE RESIDENTS OF LITTLE WOODS TURN FOR THE LATEST RETALIATIONS REMOVING THEIR PARKING CHARGING UNWARRANTED, UNWARRANTED GROUND RENT INCREASES DENYING THEIR RIGHTS AS ADDRESSED, BOTH IN THE MRL LAWS AND THE REVISED CITY OF PETALUMA RENT STABILIZATION ORDINANCE.

WHERE DOES THE CITY STAND ON THE FRAUD HAPPENING TO POTENTIAL BUYERS FROM INVESTMENT PARK OWNERS? STATING YOUNGSTOWN IS ALL AGE DEMANDING.

REALTORS SELL TO ALL AGE WITHOUT THE BUYERS KNOWING THIS IS A SENIOR PARK AND REQUIRING SENIOR PARK RULES AND SENIOR PARK LEASES AND PURCHASE AGREEMENTS TO MLS LISTINGS WITHOUT THE NOTICE THAT THEY SUBMITTED A CLOSURE LETTER TO THE CITY.

BUYERS LED TO BELIEVE THAT GROUND RENT CAN BE SET BY PARK OWNERS AT WHATEVER RATE THEY WISH, UH, TO DEMAND BAIT AND SWITCH TO BUYERS.

THANK YOU CHRIS PARKER, TO BE FOLLOWED BY BERT BOTTA.

AND, UM, IF YOU WISH TO QUEUE THERE AT THE PO AT THE PODIUM, IT COULD MAKE THE PRESENTATION SEAMLESS.

THE NEXT SPEAKER, I MEAN, CAN YOU ALSO ADDRESS THE FRAUD STATING THAT VACANCY CONTROL DOES NOT EXIST TO ADVOCATE FOR OURSELVES.

WE HAVE BEEN BURDENED WITH WAY TOO MANY FINANCIAL AND THREATENING HARDSHIPS.

ARE YOU AWARE THAT ALAMEDA COUNTY WITH OUR HELP AND INFORMATION THREATENED TO SUE THREE PILLARS AND HARMONY AND MADE THEM BACK OFF ON ILLEGAL RENT INCREASES? TO FURTHER PROTECT MOBILE PARK RESIDENTS, THEY VOTED IN LEGAL FEES FOR MOBILE PARK RESIDENTS TO USE, RESIDENTS TO USE MADE AVAILABLE NOW FOR ANYTHING THAT COMES THEIR WAY PERSONALLY.

TO GET OUR MUCH NEEDED LEGAL FEES FOR YOUNGSTOWN IN 48 HOURS, WE HAD TO RAISE THE MONEY THROUGH OUR

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RESIDENTS, SOME TAKING IT FROM THEIR FOOD, MONEY FROM RESIDENTS AT OTHER PARKS, FROM FELLOW ADVOCATES, AND FROM SHORT TERM LOANS OFF THE BACK OF A RESIDENT.

WE ARE MADE TO FOLLOW THE LAW EVEN WHILE LITIGATION, ARBITRATION AND RETALIATION HANG OVER OUR HEADS.

BUT FOR THREE PILLARS IN HARMONY, THEY HAVE NOT BEEN HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR WILLFUL DISREGARD OF THE LAW.

WE KNOW YOU HAVE DONE YOUR DUE DILI, WE KNOW YOU HAVE DONE YOUR DUE DILIGENCE AND VOTED FOR THE RIGHT COURSE, BUT THERE IS STILL SO MUCH MORE TO DO.

WE STILL HAVE NOT SEEN THE COMPLIANCE MANDATED BY THE REVISED RENT STABILIZATION ORDINANCE AS TO EACH RESIDENCE GROUND RENTS FROM THE PARK OWNERS TO THE CITY.

WHERE DOES THAT STAND? AS IT WAS MENTIONED IN OUR RESIDENTS, AS IT WAS MENTIONED TO OUR RESIDENTS, THE ONLY REASON THESE INVESTMENT PARK OWNERS THRIVE IN THEIR BUSINESS, BECAUSE OF US, WE PAY THE GROUND RENTS.

WE BUY OUR MOBILE HOMES, WE PAY OUR PERSONAL AND PROPERTY TAXES.

WE PAY FOR OUR UTILITY, SEWER AND WATER.

WE EVEN PAY FOR THE UPKEEP OF THEIR LAND UNDER OUR MOBILE HOME AND ARE HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO STANDARDS THAT THEY THEMSELVES DON'T USE.

WE PAY FOR THEM TO MAKE EXTRAORDINARY.

THANK YOU MUCH.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE BUR POTTA TO BE FOLLOWED BY TIM PORTUS.

COUNSEL.

UM, MY PRESENTATION IS, UM, REGARDING WHAT HAS BEEN TAKING PLACE AT THE, UH, MOBILE HOME PARK, YOUNGSTOWN.

AND WHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE IS THAT WE ENDURE STRESS AND HARDSHIPS BROUGHT ON BY THESE INVESTMENT PARK OWNERS.

SIMPLY ALWAYS WANTING AND DEMANDING MORE HELP US, HELP OUR RESIDENTS CONSIDER BECOMING OUR PARTNERS IN OWNERSHIP, PRESERVING OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, OUR QUALITY OF LIFE IS SUFFERING.

WHAT HAPPENS HERE WILL BE SEEN THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY AS A TEST CASE.

MARK MY WORDS.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR ANSWERS AND TRULY RESPECT THE COMPREHENSIVE JOB EACH ONE OF YOU DO.

ON BEHALF OF ALL PETALUMA RESIDENTS, THIS IS SIGNED BY YOUNGSTOWN RESIDENTS, LITTLE WOOD RESIDENTS AND CAPRI RESIDENTS.

AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'VE DONE SO FAR IN OUR SUPPORT.

AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOU CONTINUING THE SUPPORT AND INCREASING THE VOLUME OF THE SUPPORT THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN TO GO FORWARD TO PROTECT OUR LIVES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU TIM PORTIA TO BE FOLLOWED BY JOHN ROBBINS .

NO MORE WORDS FOR ME TO READ HERE, I THINK.

BUT GREETINGS, COUNSEL, STAFF, THANK YOU FOR PERMITTING US TO COME BACK AND PRESENT WITH YOU, TO SHARE WITH YOU EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE SHARING WITH US.

I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT ALL OF YOU DO.

I REALLY APPRECIATE MY STAFF.

YOU GUYS ARE BOMBED BAD.

WE NEED HELP.

IT'S KIND OF SCARY, BUT I'M WONDERING IF SOMEONE CAN ASK YOU HOW TO CLOSE A PARK.

CAN YOU TELL ME HOW TO PREVENT IT? YOU HAVE MY EMAIL.

IF THERE'S A WAY, PLEASE SHARE IT WITH ME.

I'LL DO WHATEVER I CAN.

AND I'M SURE THERE'S A LOT OF US THAT WILL STAND UP AND DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO DO THAT.

IT'S AN AWFUL THING TO LOOK FORWARD TO LOSING YOUR HOME.

ME LOSING MY HOME, I HAVE A LOT OF MONEY AND TIME INVESTED IN IT.

NEW FLOORING, NEW INSULATION, NEW WALLS I PUT UP FOR AND I'M JUST GONNA LOSE IT.

MY TRAILER IS BETTER THAN MOST AFTER I'VE DONE WHAT I'VE DONE.

BUT TO LOSE IT TO NOTHING, TO SOME GREEDY HOOPLA IS IS IS HORRENDOUSLY TERRIBLE.

SO I'M STILL LOOKING WITH YOU GUYS.

IF THERE IS A WAY I WILL DO ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN TELL ME ANY IDEAS, ANY PAPERS, AND I REALLY HOPE THAT YOU DO NOT BE CONTINUALLY SADDLED WITH TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF THE STATE RULES BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW THE CITY CAN BE HELD TO IT.

I REALLY DON'T.

THE STATE MADE THE RULES.

WELL, IT SHOULD BE THE STATES.

THAT'S ALL I GOT GUYS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

JOHN ROBBINS TO BE FOLLOWED BY SANDRA SHAN.

GOOD EVENING.

UM, I'M A RELATIVELY NEW RESIDENT TO PETALUMA.

I'VE ONLY BEEN HERE FOR FIVE YEARS, BUT I LIVED IN MARIN COUNTY FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS,

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AND A COUPLE OF CASES THERE SEEMED PERTINENT TO WHAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH HERE.

UH, A DEVELOPER WANTED TO COME IN ON LUCAS VALLEY ROAD AND BUILD A DEVELOPMENT RIGHT AT THE SUMMIT OF THE ROAD.

THEY SAID, UH, THAT WAS ALL ZONED A 40.

AND, UH, SO THE COUNTY SAID, NO, YOU CAN'T DO IT.

SO THEY TOOK HIM TO COURT AND THE COUNTY FOUGHT IT AND THEY WENT TO THE APPEALS COURT.

AND, UH, THE DEVELOPER LOST AT BOTH OF THOSE LEVELS.

AND THEN, UH, THEY TRIED TO GO TO THE SUPREME COURT, BUT THE SUPREME COURT DIDN'T WANT TO HEAR IT.

ANOTHER CASE.

AND THAT WAS, BY THE WAY, THAT WAS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM WHERE GEORGE LUCAS BUILT A RATHER LARGE, UH, WELL HIDDEN COMPLEX.

ANOTHER CASE THAT CAME TO MIND IS THE CONTEMPO MOBILE HOME PARK IN SAN RAFAEL.

A DEVELOPER WANTED TO COME IN THERE LEVEL IT BUILD CONDOS, BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE CITY RESISTED THAT AND THEY SUCCEEDED.

I WAS JUST DOWN THERE A COUPLE DAYS AGO AND THERE'S CONTEMPO HAPPILY THERE.

THE PEOPLE STILL ARE ABLE TO LIVE THERE.

SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF PRECEDENT, I THINK, UH, REGARDING, YOU KNOW, THE RIGHTS OF THE CITY TO EXERCISE THE POWER THAT YOU HAVE INVESTED IN YOU BY VIRTUE OF BEING THE CITY GOVERNMENT.

SO I JUST ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO YOUR BEST TO KEEP THESE PIRATES OUT OF OUR LIVES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

I HAVE, UH, FOUR MORE CARDS.

UM, SANDRA SHAND TO BE FOLLOWED BY SUSAN KURT.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I'M REALLY SICK AT HEART AS I LISTEN TO THE NEWS, BUT STILL IN THE INTERESTS OF PEACE AND HARMONY LOCALLY AND ABROAD.

I SHARED WITH YOU THE LOCAL QUAKER MEETINGS PLEA FOR PEACE AND HARMONY AND AN END TO THE VIOLENCE IN PALESTINE AND ISRAEL.

I WANNA SHARE WITH YOU ANOTHER QUAKER MEETING.

THIS IS THE LIVE OAK MEETING, UH, FURTHER DOWN IN CALIFORNIA.

AND THIS IS WHAT THEY HAD TO SAY.

AS QUAKERS, WE OPPOSE WAR AND SEEK A JUST AND LASTING PEACE.

IN ISRAEL AND PALESTINE, WE GRIEVE THE MANY DEATHS OF BOTH ISRAELIS AND GOINS, ESPECIALLY THE MANY CHILDREN.

MANY GOINS ARE FACING FAMINE, INFECTIOUS DISEASE, AS WELL AS THE DESTRUCTION OF HOMES, HOSPITALS, SCHOOLS, PLACES OF WORSHIP, FARMS, THEIR NEED FOR FOOD, SHELTER, AND MEDICAL CARE IS CRITICAL.

WE THEREFORE URGE AN IMMEDIATE AND LASTING BILATERAL CEASEFIRE WITH ONGOING PEACE NEGOTIATIONS, RETURN OF ALL ISRAELI HOSTAGES AND ALL PALESTINIAN POLITICAL PRISONERS WITHHOLDING OF MILITARY AID TO ISRAEL BECAUSE OF THOSE ONGOING GROSS VIOLATIONS OF HUMAN RIGHTS, EXPEDITED HUMANITARIAN ASSISTANCE WHEREVER IT IS NEEDED.

LEST YOU ACCUSED QUAKERS OF BEING ANTI-SEMITIC QUAKERS WENT TO NAZI GERMANY BEFORE THE HOLOCAUST AND INTERCEDED ON BEHALF OF THE JEWS OF EUROPE AND HAD NOT A DESTINATION FOR A MASS IMMIGRATION NOT PANNED OUT IN THE REST OF THE WORLD, OUR GROUP WOULD'VE SUCCEEDED IN SAVING THE LIVES OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE.

SO JUST BECAUSE WE DISAGREE WITH YOU DOES NOT MEAN WE ARE ANTISEMITIC, AND I AM STILL WAITING FOR AN APOLOGY FROM YOU.

THANK YOU SUSAN KIRK TO BE FOLLOWED BY JOHN O'BRIEN.

THANK YOU.

UM, GOOD EVENING TO THE COMMUNITY.

MY HEART GOES OUT TO THE MOBILE HOME RESIDENTS WHO ARE HERE AND SPEAKING TONIGHT.

I'M SUSAN KIRKS.

I AM PRESIDENT OF MADONE AUDUBON IN SONOMA COUNTY WITH MANY MEMBERS IN PETALUMA.

AND I AM THE NATURALIST AND CHAIR OF PAUL LANE ACTION NETWORK, THE NON-PROFIT THAT DEDICATED OUR LIVES TO SAVING AND CONSERVING THE PAULA LANE OPEN SPACE PROPERTY ON THE WAY HERE TONIGHT, I WAS THINKING HOW MUCH I DIDN'T WANNA COME.

I WATCH ALL OF YOUR MEETINGS, AS I'M SURE YOU KNOW, I SEND WRITTEN COMMENTS, BUT YOU'LL BE SEEING ME NOW BECAUSE COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLE MENTIONED IN COUNCIL COMMENT HOW HE HAD MET WITH CONCERNED NEIGHBORS RELATED TO THE INAPPROPRIATE OBSTRUCTIVE TACKY, UNNECESSARY BARBED DWIER FENCING THAT HAS BEEN INSTALLED

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AT PAULA LANE TO ACCOMMODATE DOMESTIC ANIMAL GRAZING THAT SHOULD NEVER HAVE OCCURRED.

THIS IS A PROPERTY WHERE GRAZING IS NOT APPROPRIATE PLAN.

AND OUR BIOLOGISTS HAVE STATED THIS ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS, AND I CONTINUE TO SPEAK WITH THE OPEN SPACE DISTRICT ABOUT IT.

WHEN I CAME HERE TONIGHT, I WAS THINKING, UGH, I HAVE TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS.

I HAVE TO BE COMING NOW BECAUSE I BRING WITH ME ALL OF THE SPIRITS, ALL OF THE VOLUNTEERS, ALL OF THE, THE SERVICE PROVIDERS, ALL OF THE LIVES THAT HAVE BEEN LOST.

THE WILDLIFE, THE BIRDS FROM THE MISGUIDED ACTIONS, MISGUIDED DECISIONS OF THE CITY OF PETALUMA FOR AN OPEN SPACE PROPERTY THAT IS VERY SENSITIVE HABITAT AND THE NATURE PRESERVE THAT OUR ORGANIZATION CREATED AND WAS IMPLEMENTING ALMOST COMPLETE IN JULY, 2019, 80% COMPLETE.

THANK YOU.

THANK, OUR NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE JOHN O'BRIEN, TO BE FATHER, FOLLOWED BY CATHERINE BOBOWSKI.

HELLO, I'M JOHN O'BRIEN, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, MY ISSUE IS THAT MY WASTE, SEPTIC WASTE LATERAL, UH, COMING FROM MY HOUSE COULDN'T BE ROUTED TO REDWOOD CIRCLE BECAUSE THERE'S A TOWN WELL ON MY PROPERTY AND THE IT TECHNICALLY PEOPLE CALL THAT A HARDSHIP ON THE LOT.

SO WHEN THE LOT WAS BUILT, EVERY OTHER HOME EXITS TO REDWOOD CIRCLE, BUT MINE HAD TO GO OUT TO WASHINGTON STREET.

UH, PG AND E WANTED TO CHANGE THEIR NATURAL GAS LINE TO PREVENT, UH, SAN BRUNO KIND OF A THING.

AND, UM, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THERE'S A THING CALLED CORROSION, HYDRO CORROSION.

ANYWAY, THEY DID THAT NINE YEARS AGO.

AND, UM, IN THE, IN SO DOING, I THINK THEY DIDN'T KNOW MY WASTE LATERAL WAS IN THE WAY.

AND THEY MAY HAVE, WE DON'T, THERE'S THINGS WE DON'T KNOW ANY RATE.

WITHIN THE LAST WEEK, THERE WAS A CO A COMPANY FROM ANOTHER STATE DOING WORK BY MY HOUSE.

AND I WENT TO THEM AND I SAID, WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? THEY SAID, WELL, WE'RE HYDRO CORROSION ASSOCIATES OR SOMETHING THAT HCA AND, UM, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK TO SEE IF THE NEW PG E GAS LINE HAS, UH, DONE ITS JOB.

IN OTHER WORDS, IS THERE ANY CORROSION? AND I SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, MY WASTE LATERAL IS DUMPING A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF RIGHT AROUND WHERE YOU'RE LOOKING, AND YOU MAY NOT KNOW THAT, UH, THAT THIS IS THE SOURCE OF POSSIBLE CORROSION.

HE SAID, WELL, WE CAN'T TALK TO YOU BECAUSE PG E HIRED US.

AND PRETTY MUCH THEY WERE VERY POLITE, UH, DEALT WITH ME VERY WELL.

BUT, UH, I WENT AND TALKED TO MY FRIENDS AND MY FRIENDS SAID THEY'RE PUTTING LINES DOWN HCA ON TOP OF OTHER CONSTRUCTION LINES, JUST A SHORT WAY DOWN FROM WHERE MY LATERAL WOULD BE DUMPING A BUNCH OF GARBAGE IN WASHINGTON STREET, WHICH I THOUGHT MIGHT BE A, A SINKHOLE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

CATHERINE BOBOWSKI TO BE FOLLOWED BY ANGELA CRUZ.

YES, MY NAME'S CATHERINE BROWSKI.

I LIVE AT THE LITTLE WOODS BAY PARK.

FIRST, THE CITY ATTORNEY NEEDS TO SEE THIS.

THEY'RE MAKING CHARGES THAT DON'T EVEN EXIST.

AND ALSO TOO, LIKE, UH, THE ONSITE MANAGER IS IN HARMONY, IS TAKE AWAY ALL THE RESIDENTS PARKING SPACES AND GIVING IT TO ALL MS. CRUZ'S FRIENDS AND FAMILY.

THAT'S NOT RIGHT.

AND ALSO TOO, THEY'RE USING A PARK FOR ABANDONED VEHICLES IN THE BACK PARKING LOT, IN THE FRONT PARKING LOT WITH EXPIRED LICENSE PLATE TAGS.

AND ALSO MOST IMPORTANT, THE ON ONSITE MANAGER AND HARMONY AND WHITEHOUSE ILLEGALLY ALLOW SPACE 11 TO BUILD A SOLID, UH, WALL BRICK WALL ON TOP OF SPACE TWELVE'S GAS LINE AT THAT.

IF THERE WAS EVER A LEAK THERE AND THAT, AND THEY START DIGGING THERE, THE WHOLE PARK WOULD GO UP JUST LIKE THE SAN BRUNO AND THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND ALSO TOO, WITH SPACE 11 ILLEGALLY INVENTED A NUMBER 11 RIGHT AGAINST MY PLACE TO WHEN THERE'S, THAT'S NOT A PARKING AREA.

THERE WAS A PRO, THERE'S A PROPANE TANK THERE.

AND HARVEY IS ALSO MAKING US RESIDENTS PAY THEIR TAXES FOR THE LAND.

THEY SHOULD PAY THEIR OWN TAXES FOR THE LAND, AND THEY'RE BREAKING ALL THE LAWS.

YOU COULD COUNT SO MANY, YOU COULD COUNT THESE PEOPLE BELONG IN PRISON AND BE SHUT DOWN.

HARMONY.

AND, UH, THE, UH, THE OWNERS OF, UH, YOUNGSTOWN AND, AND CAPRI

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PUT A STOP.

HAVE THE STATE PUT, COME OUT THERE AND STOP THESE PEOPLE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ANGELA CRUZ IS OUR LAST SPEAKER FOR THE EVENING.

HI, THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK.

I APOLOGIZE FOR BEING LATE.

I WAS AT WORK.

UM, SOME OF Y'ALL MAY RECOGNIZE MY FACE BECAUSE I SPEAK OFTEN, UM, BUT THERE'S ALSO SOME FACES OUT IN THE CROWD THAT YOU MAY NOT NORMALLY SEE.

UM, THE RESIDENTS OF LITTLE WOODS, UH, CAPRI, AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, THE YOUNGSTOWN RESISTANCE LEAGUE IN THEIR BLUE SHIRTS.

UM, I JUST WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE THEIR PRESENCE HERE TODAY.

UM, THE RESIDENTS OF LITTLEWOOD, WHO I'M KIND OF SPEAKING ON THE BEHALF OF TODAY, UM, ARE HERE.

UH, BUT THEY, UH, MAY NOT NECESSARILY FEEL LIKE SHARING OR, UM, MAYBE HAVE CHOSEN ME TO SPEAK, UM, TODAY.

AND ESSENTIALLY ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS THAT THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT BESIDES THE CLOSURE, UM, AND WANTING ANSWERS ON THAT, WHICH WAS ADDRESSED EARLIER, THANK YOU TO YOU ALL AT YOUNGSTOWN AND CAPRI FOR MENTIONING THAT.

UM, AND OF COURSE THE, THE RENT INCREASE THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO FOR SEPTEMBER, WHICH WE BROUGHT UP AT THE LAST MEETING.

UM, BESIDES THOSE TWO THINGS, THE OTHER THING THAT HAS COME UP IS THAT THEY TOOK AWAY ALL THE PARKING SPOTS THAT THEY DESIGNATED FOR US IN DECEMBER, AND THEY HAVE VERBALLY, UM, GIVEN US PRICES AND HAVE CHANGED THOSE PRICES MANY TIMES.

UM, AND WE'VE NEVER GOTTEN ANY NOTICE OF ANY KIND.

UM, AND THAT'S CONCERNING TO FOLKS THAT LIVE AT LITTLE WOODS BECAUSE MANY FOLKS DON'T HAVE A CARPORT AT ALL, OR JUST ONE.

UM, ESPECIALLY WHEN FOLKS ARE WORKING AND MAY BE HAVE WORK TRUCKS OR THINGS OF THAT SORT.

IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE FINANCIAL MEANS TO PAY $200 FOR ONE PARKING SPOT OR UH, $300 FOR TWO PARKING SPOTS OR WHATEVER PRICE IT IS, THEY DECIDE THAT DAY, IT'S UNFAIR.

PLEASE SUPPORT LITTLE WOODS'S RESIDENTS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR EVENING, UM, THAT CLOSES OUR, UH, GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD FOR THE EVENING.

AND, UM, I'D LIKE TO, UH,

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BRING IT BACK UP TO COUNCIL FOR, UM, COUNCIL COMMENTS, UH, FOR THE EVENING.

AND, UM, UNLESS THERE IS, THERE'S NO PARTICULAR, UH, STAFF COMMENT ON THE DIRECT DIRECTLY.

WE DO HAVE SOME COMMENTS THAT I KNOW THAT, UM, THE CITY ATTORNEY WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS, THE MOBILE HOME RESIDENCE.

WANNA, AND SHALL WE BUMP, UH, YOU, YOU ALL TO THE FRONT HERE AND MAKE, MAKE YOUR COMMENTS COUNSEL'S PREFERENCE IF YOU WANT TO DO YOUR COMMENTS FIRST, I CAN.

OKAY.

UM, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

UM, SO, UM, WE HEARD TONIGHT AND WE'VE BEEN HEARING, UM, REQUESTS FROM OUR MOBILE HOME PARK RESIDENTS FOR INFORMATION, UM, EXPRESSIONS OF CONCERN ABOUT, UM, COMMUNICATIONS FROM PARK OWNERS.

UM, I, I, THE, THE, THE NEW INFORMATION ABOUT THE PARKING SPACES WAS, THAT'S THE FIRST I HEARD OF THAT TONIGHT, SO THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT.

BUT WE HAVE HEARD, UM, AND SEEN, UM, COMMUNICATIONS FROM PARK OWNERS, UM, NOTICING RENT INCREASES.

UM, SECOND RENT INCREASES WITH WITHIN THE SAME CALENDAR YEAR, WHICH ARE, OR REGULATIONS DON'T PERMIT.

WE'VE SEEN THE CONCERNS ABOUT, UM, NON-COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITIES, UM, SENIOR OVERLAY, WHICH WAS LAWFULLY ENACTED AND STILL IN EFFECT.

UM, WE RECENTLY, UM, UM, SUBMITTED A LETTER IN THE, UH, THE ARBITRATION, THE MOST RECENT LITTLEWOODS ARBITRATION REGARDING ATTORNEY'S FEES BECAUSE WE DON'T THINK THOSE SHOULD BE ABLE TO BE AWARDED UNDER OUR REGULATIONS.

UM, WE, UM, RECOGNIZE THE NEED FOR INFORMATION FROM OUR RESIDENTS ALSO, UM, THE NEED FOR MORE INFORMATION ABOUT, UM, THE NOTICE, UM, IN, IN, UH, APPARENTLY INTENDING TO GIVE NOTICE OF PROPOSED CLOSURE OF TO THE PARKS.

WE, I ASSURE YOU ARE REVIEWING ALL OF THOSE COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PARKS VERY CAREFULLY.

WE ARE NOT ASSUMING, UM, THAT THEY ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH OUR REQUIREMENTS, BUT RATHER WE'RE CAREFULLY VERIFYING THAT, UM, WE'RE COMMUNICATING AT THE STAFF LEVEL.

WE'LL BE COMMUNICATING WITH THE COUNCIL ABOUT WHAT OUR RECOMMENDED RESPONSES TO THESE MULTIPLE ISSUES ARE.

WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IN TERMS OF CLOSURE IS THAT, UM, THERE'S A WELL-RECOGNIZED PRINCIPLE IN

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THE, IN THE MOBILE HOME RESIDENCY LAW AND THE CASE LAW, UM, ABOUT THE UNIQUENESS OF MOBILE HOME RESIDENCY.

AND THAT IS THE SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT THAT IS REQUIRED ON THE PART OF MOBILE HOME PARK RESIDENTS IN THEIR HOMES.

AND THAT DISTINGUISHES THEM FROM OTHER RENTERS WHO JUST PAY RENT.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO PUT UP FRONT THEIR OWN CAPITAL INVESTMENT TO PURCHASE AND THEN MAINTAIN THEIR HOMES.

AND THE PURPOSE OF THE MOBILE HOME RESIDENCY LAW AND THE CASE LAW AND OUR, UM, CLOSURE REGULATIONS ARE TO ENSURE THAT THOSE INVESTMENTS ARE PROTECTED.

UM, AND IF, UM, IF WHEN A, UM, COMPLIANT CLOSURE APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED AND THE, UM, IMPACT REPORT IS PREPARED, AND THE COUNCIL BASED ON THE IMPACT REPORT IS UNABLE TO MAKE THE FINDINGS, UM, THAT OUR REGULATIONS REQUIRE, UM, THAT ARE INTENDED, AS I SAID, TO, TO PROTECT THE MOBILE HOME PARK RESIDENT'S INVESTMENT IN THEIR HOMES, UM, SO THAT THEY CAN'T JUST BE EFFECTIVELY TAKEN FROM THEM THROUGH EVICTION OR, OR CLOSURE, UM, THAT THE COUNCIL CAN'T MAKE THOSE FINDINGS, THEN THEY ARE PROHIBITED FROM OUR REGULATIONS OF APPROVING THE CLOSURE.

SO, UM, WE ARE LOOKING AT ALL OF THOSE THINGS, UM, IN A VERY FOCUSED WAY RIGHT NOW, UM, WHICH WE'RE ABLE TO DO 'CAUSE UM, IN PART BECAUSE WE JUST COMPLETED SOME MAJOR LEGISLATIVE PROJECTS THAT WERE COUNCIL PRIORITIES.

UM, SO THIS IS GETTING A LOT OF FOCUS IN MY OFFICE.

IT WILL CONTINUE TO GET THAT FOCUS.

WE WILL CONTINUE TO, UM, BE GRATEFUL FOR, UM, UPDATES FROM OUR MOBILE HOME PARK RESIDENTS, UM, SO THAT WE CAN ADDRESS ENFORCEMENT ISSUES BOTH WITH REG, WITH RESPECT TO RENT CONTROL, BOTH RE WITH RESPECT TO, UM, THE CITY'S, UM, REGULATIONS ABOUT RENT NOTICES.

UH, ALSO WITH RESPECT TO, UH, THE LEGAL REQUIREMENT THAT, UM, RESIDENTS HAVE THE OPTION OF, UM, RENTING RENT CONTROLLED SPACES AND ALL THOSE ISSUES.

SO MORE, THERE'LL BE MORE INFORMATION TO COME, UM, AS SOON AS WE'RE ABLE TO SHARE, WE'RE PRIORITIZING THE THINGS THAT ARE MOST TIME SENSITIVE SO THAT WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE FOR THE RESIDENTS.

IN THE MEANTIME, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, PLEASE CONTACT, UM, OUR HOUSING TEAM WHO WILL RELATE THOSE TO US.

AND, AND WE'RE WORKING VERY, CONTINUE TO BE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THEM.

UM, BUT MORE TO COME AND, AND, AND WE'LL BE, UM, IN, IN, IN, IN THE COURSE OF THESE REVIEWS UPDATING AND GETTING DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL AS NEEDED.

SO THOSE ARE MY REMARKS OF THE COUNCIL AS DIRECTION OR COMMENTS RATHER.

I'D BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS UP.

THANKS.

PERFECT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UM, BEFORE BRINGING IT BACK TO COUNCIL COMMENTS, I JUST WANTED TO ADD TO THIS, WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.

IT IS POWERFUL THAT YOU COME.

IT IS POWERFUL THAT YOU SPEAK AND IT CLEARLY IS THE FOCUS OF THE CI CITY COUNCIL IN AS, AS ONE IS VERY CONSERVATIVE AND STAFF IS VERY ACTIVE ON THIS.

SO I DO APPRECIATE YOU ALL BEING HERE TONIGHT.

SO, UM, I'VE TURNED TO OUR, OUR VICE MAYOR TO LEAD US OUT WITH, UH, COUNCIL COMMENTS TONIGHT.

OKAY.

JUST A COUPLE REPORTS, UH, A COUPLE MEETINGS.

UM, I WENT TO THE NORTH BAY WATERSHED ASSOCIATIONS MEETING, WHICH WAS IN, IN NAPA AT THE SANITATION DISTRICT THERE.

AND WE RECEIVED A PRESENTATION.

UH, THEY HAD SPENT ABOUT A HALF MILLION DOLLARS TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT CAN THEY TURN, UM, UH, REUSABLE WATER OR REUSE RECYCLED WATER, THE PURPLE PIPE WATER INTO ACTUALLY POTABLE WATER.

UH, SO IT COULD ACTUALLY BE, UH, SENT INTO THE REGULAR WATER PIPES AND, UH, THEORETICALLY FEASIBLE IS WHAT THEY DISCOVERED.

UM, HOWEVER, THERE WAS SOME VERY HIGH EXPENSES INVOLVED AND, UH, IT WAS TOO HIGH FOR THEIR PARTICULAR SITE.

UM, THEY DON'T HAVE WHAT OUR SITE HAS IN, UH, THE UV UM, UH, TREATMENTS.

SO THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE, AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA GO DOWN THAT PATH AT THIS TIME.

BUT THEY DO HAVE A HALF MILLION DOLLAR STUDY THAT THEY HAVE A REPORT ON THAT MIGHT, OUR STAFF MIGHT BE WORTHY OF TO TAKE A LOOK AT, UM, TO SEE IF, IF WE COULD TWEAK IT, UH, TO MAKE APPLICATIONS HERE OR NOT, OR TO GO IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.

UH, STORM WATER USE, UM, UM, CAPTURE AND THE LIKE.

SO THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE FOR, FOR, UH, DROUGHT RESISTANCE.

THE OTHER THING THEY, WE DID, THERE WAS A TOUR OF THE SITE AND THEY DO HAVE A, UH, REGENERATION, UH, UNIT FROM THE, UM, UH, SOLID WASTE.

UM, BASICALLY A METHANE PRODUCTION, WHICH THEY NOW USE FOR ENERGY PRODUCTION.

AND, UM, IN THAT SITE THEY HAVE TWO, UM, TWO TANKS, TWO LARGE HUGE EGGS, ABOUT AS BIG AS THIS ROOM BA BASICALLY.

AND THEY ARE GENERATING, UH, THE METHANE, UM, CYCLING IT THROUGH, UH, WITH THE WASTE.

AND THEY ARE SAVING $40,000 PER MONTH IN ELECTRICITY BY DOING THAT.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER, UH, I KNOW THAT WE ARE WORKING ON THAT, UM, AT OUR SITE.

UH,

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BUT WE LIKE TO SUPPORT THAT AND KEEP THAT GOING.

UM, TO, TO REACH THAT GOAL.

UH, $40,000 PER MONTH SAVINGS IS PRETTY TREMENDOUS AND WE HAVE THAT CAPACITY HERE.

WE JUST NEED TO GET THERE.

AND, UM, I KNOW CHELSEA IS WORKING ON THAT.

UM, OTHER MEETINGS I WENT TO, UM, THERE WAS A, UM, REPORT THERE SAYS THE, UH, MARIN COUNTY, UM, UH, REPORT, UH, BY, BY THE GRAND JURY.

AND THEY HAVE A TITLE OF THEIR 13 PAGE DOCUMENT REPORT THAT THEY JUST SUBMITTED APRIL IN 2024.

THAT'S FAIRLY RECENT.

AND WITH POWER COMES RESPONSIBILITY, YOUTH UNDER 16 OPERATING CLASS TWO EBIKES.

SO THEY HAVE A WHOLE REPORT ON BIKE E-BIKE SAFETY AND WHAT'S GOING ON THERE.

UM, AND THEY HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR MARIN COUNTY AS WELL AS THE CITIES IN MARIN COUNTY.

AND WE MAY WANT TO, UH, MIMIC AND FOLLOW WHAT'S HAPPENING IN MARIN COUNTY AND, AND FOLLOW IT UP, UP HERE.

AND, UM, LOOK AT THE SAME, THEY'RE LOOKING AT A LOT OF SAFETY ISSUES, UH, REGISTRATION FOR YOUTH AND THE LIKE, UM, UH, PREVENTING YOUTH BECAUSE OF INJURIES OF YOUTH IN, UH, UNDER 16, UH, HAVING A HIGH INCIDENTS OF ACCIDENTS NOW, UH, AND, AND ENDING UP IN THE HOSPITAL 'CAUSE THEY'RE BASICALLY GOING TOO FAST, UH, NOT UNDERSTANDING.

SO THAT RECOMMENDING SAFETY AND EDUCATION, UH, AND RULES AND UM, AND MAYBE LOOKING AT THEIR BIKE LANES AND HOW THEY COULD BE DONE DOWN THERE.

UM, ALONG WITH THAT, ALSO ANOTHER BIKE, UM, WEBINAR.

UH, THIS IS A MCKINSEY CENTER REPORT ON E-BIKES ON THE GLOBAL MARKET OF E-BIKES, UH, WHICH THEY SEE AS, AS AT LEAST TRIPLING, IF NOT MORE, OVER THE NEXT, WITHIN THE NEXT 10 YEARS.

AND WITH EUROPE LEADING BEHIND CHINA.

AND THEN THE US AS FAR AS POTENTIAL MARKETS, UM, A HUGE EXPANSION OF MARKETPLACES EXPECTED.

UM, AND THERE'S LARGE GOVERNMENT INCENTIVES HAPPENING ON AVERAGE OF $500, UH, PER BIKE BEING OFFERED BY CITIES TO, UH, RESIDENTS IN NEED.

AND THAT SEEMS TO BE WORKING ALL OVER THE WORLD.

WE HAVE, UH, BRICK AND MORTAR STORES ARE HIGHLY NEEDED FOR THIS BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO BE, BIKES NEED TO BE SERVICED, AND PEOPLE BUY BIKES THROUGH EXPERIENCE NOT ON THE INTERNET.

SO THAT'S HAPPENING ALSO WORLDWIDE.

UM, BIKES ARE GONNA BE BIGGER THAN SCOOTERS OR MINI CARS.

UM, AS, AS A FUTURE MEANS OF TRANSPORTATION, UH, PARTICULARLY CARGO BIKES ARE GONNA INCREASE HUGELY.

AND THE OTHER THING I ASKED ABOUT WAS, WAS MICROCAR.

AND THEY FELT THAT WAS GOING TO BE A HUGE, UH, FUTURE MARKET ALSO TO LOOK AT.

AND, UM, THE OTHER THING I ASKED ABOUT WAS, UH, UH, BIKE LANES AND BIKE SAFETY.

AND THEY REPORTED WORLDWIDE THAT THERE IS A, THERE ARE INCIDENCES WHEN BIKES AND CARS SHARE THE SAME ROAD, UH, WITHIN CLOSE DISTANCE OF EACH OTHER, UM, THAT THERE'S, THERE HAS BEEN AN INCREASE IN ACCIDENTS WORLDWIDE AND THEY ARE HIGHLY RECOMMENDING THAT, UH, WE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY SEPARATE BICYCLISTS AND CARS WITH A PHYSICAL BARRIER AND PATHS THAT ARE COMPLETELY SEPARATE PATH.

AND THAT WAS THEIR REPORT FROM THEIR GLOBAL MARKET STUDY.

UM, AND I THINK THAT'S IT FOR ME FOR THE TIME BEING.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER CATER THOMPSON.

THANK YOU.

UM, COUNCIL MEMBERSHIPS, VICE MAYOR, I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS ON THE E-BIKES.

UM, I SAW TWO KIDS ON AN E-BIKE YESTERDAY ON WASHINGTON STREET IN BETWEEN KENTUCKY AND THE BOULEVARD.

I MEAN, IN, YEAH, PETALUMA BOULEVARD.

THERE WERE TWO KIDS ON THIS BIKE, NO HELMETS, AND THEY WERE LITTLE YOUNG KIDS.

THEY WERE DEFINITELY UNDER 16.

SO I APPRECIATE, UM, LOOKING AT SAFETY AND MORE EDUCATION AND RULES.

UM, AND I WANNA THANK THE MOBILE HOME PARK RESIDENTS FOR COMING AND BEING TENACIOUS.

YOU HAVE TO, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

COULD WE HAVE YOU SPEAK CLOSER INTO THE MIC? YES.

SOME FOLKS ARE HAVING A HARD TIME.

THANK YOU.

I WILL, UM, JUST THANK THE MOBILE HOME PARK RESIDENTS FOR COMING TO THE MEETINGS AND BEING TENACIOUS AND AS A CITY WE ARE WORKING HARD AND OUR CITY ATTORNEY IS, AND THERE'S JUST A LOT OF MOVING PARTS AND I JUST REALLY APPRECIATED, UM, HEARING FROM OUR CITY ATTORNEY THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO TAKE WHAT'S, UM, YOU HAVE TO DO IT SYSTEMATICALLY, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IMMEDIATELY.

SO BE TENACIOUS AND CONTINUE COMING, PLEASE.

UM, ON THE OTHER HAND, I JUST WANNA TALK QUICKLY ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

I, UM, WENT TO BERKELEY TO THE WALK SHOP TO BUY SHOES.

SO I LEFT ALL MY TAX DOLLARS IN BERKELEY.

'CAUSE WE REALLY DON'T HAVE A SHOE STORE IN PETALUMA.

AND I DID CALL THE OWNER AND, UM, COPIED OUR CITY MANAGER ON THIS TO SEE IF SHE'D BE INTERESTED IN OPENING A STORE IN PETALUMA.

SHE'S NOT, BUT SHE DOES KNOW PEOPLE IN PETALUMA, VISITS OUR TOWN AND REALLY LIKES IT A LOT.

SO THAT'S, UM, SOME, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER I'M LOOKING AT WHY I HAVE TO LEAVE TOWN TO BUY SOMETHING, UM, IT'S CONCERNING.

UM, AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS, UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY

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LIAISON REPORTS.

I WAS ON VACATION, SO I MISSED MY, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AND I DIDN'T HAVE ANY OTHER MEETINGS, UM, DURING THIS TIME PERIOD.

SO THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLE.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

UM, APPRECIATE ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT, UM, OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ACKNOWLEDGED.

UM, FIRST I'LL SAY THANK YOU TO ALL OF THE STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS THAT WORKED ON 4TH OF JULY.

UM, THE HOTEL, LOU CASEY, THE FIREWORKS, UM, LAST WEEKEND, THE YARD AND GARDEN FESTIVAL.

JUST, UM, TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF, UH, GOOD SPIRIT GOING INTO OUR COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

UM, I HAD ONE, UM, LIAISON APPOINTMENT TO SONOMA CLEAN POWER.

UM, NOTABLE, A COUPLE OF NOTABLE THINGS COMING UP THERE.

UM, SONOMA CLEAN POWER STRIVES TO BE 5% BELOW PG AND E FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS.

WE'VE BEEN 7% BELOW PG AND E.

UM, THERE'S A, A REGULATORY THING THAT HAPPENS AND THEY ADJUST IT FROM TIME TO TIME.

IT'S CALLED THE PCIA.

I'M NOT GONNA, UM, BORE YOU WITH MY BUTCHERED ATTEMPT TO TRY AND EXPLAIN WHAT IT IS.

BUT ESSENTIALLY RIGHT NOW OUR, FOR OUR RATES ARE FORECASTED TO BE 3% BELOW.

AND SO WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT WAYS TO, UM, TRIM THE RATES SO THAT WE KEEP AT, AT 5% BELOW PG AND E.

UM, ALSO, UM, A GOOD UPDATE IS THE GEO ZONE, WHICH IS THE GEOTHERMAL, UH, ZONE THAT'S HAPPENING UP IN THE GEYSERS.

SO A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF EXPLORATION GOING ON THERE, BUT IT'S REALLY THE, UM, IN, IN TERMS OF PROVIDING LIKE EMISSIONS FREE POWER AND NOT HAVING TO RELY ON NATURAL GAS POWER PLANTS THAT ARE IN, IN EAST LA AND POLLUTING THOSE COMMUNITIES, UH, GEOTHERMALS LIKE THE BUS, YOU KNOW, THE BEST THING WE HAVE.

AND IT'S A LOCAL RESOURCE.

UM, IT'S EXTREMELY ABUNDANT AND, UM, WE'RE MAKING, UH, GREAT STRIDES IN IDENTIFYING SITES.

UM, AND THERE'S JUST GONNA BE A HECK OF A LOT OF, UM, REALLY GOOD PLAYING FAMILY JOBS, UM, HAPPENING FROM THE GEO ZONE.

AND WE FOUND OUR FIRST SITE, THERE'S GONNA BE A TOWN HALL AT THE ENERGY CENTER IN SANTA ROSA, UM, ON JULY 25TH FROM SIX TO EIGHT.

SO IF YOU WANT TO LEARN MORE ABOUT ALL THE WORK THAT'S HAPPENING THERE, UM, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND GOING UP THERE.

IT'S REALLY, IT'S GONNA BE A GOLD RUSH OF, UM, OF JOBS IN CLEAN ENERGY RIGHT HERE LOCALLY.

SO THAT'S ALL FOR ME.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER HEALY.

THANK YOU.

SO I'M GONNA START OUT WITH, UH, AN INTERESTING REPORT FROM THE WATER WORLD.

UM, THERE HAS NOT BEEN A WATER ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING THAT WON'T MEET AGAIN UNTIL EARLY AUGUST.

UM, BUT NEVERTHELESS, UM, WE'RE WITNESSING SOMETHING RIGHT NOW THAT HAS NEVER HAPPENED IN ALL THE YEARS SINCE LAKE SONOMA WAS BUILT.

UM, AND THAT IS, HERE WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF JULY AND THE WATER SUPPLY POOL IN LAKE SONOMA, WHICH IS THE FIRST 245,000 ACRE FEET OF STORAGE, UM, THERE'S ACTUALLY MORE WATER STORED IN LAKE SONOMA THAN THAT RIGHT NOW.

IT'S AT 102% OF THE WATER SUPPLY POOL.

IT'S ABOUT 250,000 ACRE FEET.

AND THAT'S NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE, BECAUSE IN THE PAST, THE CORE WOULD DUMP OUT ANY WATER THAT CAME IN THAT WAS IN EXCESS OF THE WATER SUPPLY POOL TO CREATE ADDITIONAL SPACE IN THE, UM, FLOOD CONTROL POOL.

AND, UM, AND NOW THE, THE COUNTY WATER AGENCY HAS INVESTED SO MUCH TIME AND ENERGY INTO FORECAST AND FORMED RESERVOIR OPERATIONS.

THE ACRONYM IS FRO, UM, THE CORE WILL ACTUALLY KEEP WATER IN THERE UNTIL THE NEXT BIG STORM IS FORECAST TO COME ALONG.

AND THIS YEAR WE HAD A LATE SPRING WITHOUT MAJOR STORMS COMING IN AT THE END, SO THEY WERE ABLE TO BANK THAT EXTRA WATER.

SO WE'RE IN VERY GOOD WATER SHAPE RIGHT NOW AS A REGION.

SO I JUST WANTED TO REPORT ON THAT.

UM, I SPENT LAST THURSDAY AND FRIDAY IN PASADENA, UH, FOR A BOARD MEETING OF THE LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES.

UM, WE, THE LEAGUE TOOK, UH, LEAGUE BOARD, TOOK POSITIONS ON THREE MEASURES THAT WILL BE ON THE NOVEMBER BALLOT STATEWIDE AND DECLINED TO TAKE A POSITION ON A FOURTH.

UM, YOU'LL, YOU'LL BE HEARING ABOUT THOSE SOON.

AND THEN THERE WERE SOME INTERESTING, UM, IN INTERNAL CONVERSATIONS.

IT TURNS OUT THAT THE LEAGUE'S FIRST, UH, PRESIDENT 125 YEARS AGO WAS THE MAYOR OF SAN FRANCISCO AND GENTLEMAN NAMED JAMES LAN.

AND OUR DIVERSITY CAUCUSES HAVE POINTED OUT THAT HE WAS, UM, QUITE THE RACIST.

AND LATER ON IN HIS CAREER AS A US SENATOR, HE WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN, UM, SHUTTING DOWN IMMIGRATION FROM, FROM ASIA AND CHINA.

AND SO THEY, THERE, THERE'S, UH, GONNA BE AN EFFORT TO, UM, SEE WHAT NOT JUST HIS, UH, INVOLVEMENT IN THAT WAS, BUT THE LEAGUES AS A WHOLE.

AND, UH, AND WE'LL TAKE NEXT STEPS, UH, APPROPRIATELY, BUT I'M, I'M GLAD THE DIVERSITY CAUCUSES BROUGHT THAT FORWARD.

THERE WAS DISCUSSION OF A LOT OF BILLS CURRENTLY PENDING IN SACRAMENTO.

I THINK YOU ALL KNOW THAT THE, UH, LEGISLATURE IS CURRENTLY ON A MONTH LONG RECESS.

UM, BILLS HAVE PASSED

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OUTTA THEIR HOUSE OF ORIGIN.

THEY'RE, UH, IN THE MIDDLE OF COMMITTEE HEARINGS IN THE SECOND HOUSE AND OUR LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE, UM, OF MEETING THIS, THIS COMING FRIDAY MORNING.

WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT SOME PRIORITY BILLS AND PROBABLY BE TAKING POSITIONS ON SEVERAL OF THOSE.

UM, AND I WOULD ALSO AGREE THAT, UM, UH, I WAS PLEASED BY THE CONTINUING TURNOUT OF THE MOBILE HOME PARK RESIDENCE.

IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR YOU TO DO THAT.

AND, UM, I APPRECIATE THE CITY ATTORNEY'S COMMENTS AND, UH, I I WAS JUST WONDERING IF, IF THE CITY ATTORNEY WOULD WANT TO INDICATE WHEN WE MIGHT BE EXPECTING SOME REVISIONS TO OUR EXISTING, UM, MEASURES TO COME BACK TO US, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT AND THAT WOULD BE A GOOD THING.

AND THEN FINALLY, UM, I, I DO AGREE AND I HAVE AGREED THAT WITH THE SPEAKER WHO SAID THAT THE, UH, PARKING STUDIES ON ON D STREET WERE, WERE INADEQUATE.

AND, UM, I DON'T EXPECT THE CITY TO, UM, AGREE TO REDOING IT, BUT I THINK THE RESIDENTS DO DESERVE A RESPONSE TO THEIR REQUEST WITH, WITH SOME KIND OF RATIONALE FOR THAT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

DIDN'T I SEE A RESPONSE YOU WANNA WEIGH IN AT THIS TIME, MR. CITY ATTORNEY? SO, UH, WE'RE CURRENTLY SCHEDULING HAW AUGUST 5TH FOR A CLOSED SESSION WITH THE COUNCIL.

UM, SO THAT'S, WE WE'RE WORKING TO GET READY FOR THAT AND PROVIDE AS MUCH HOLISTIC INFORMATION FOR THAT AS IS AU AUGUST 5TH CLOSED SESSION.

OKAY.

YEP.

YEP.

BUT THERE'RE, YOU KNOW, SOME, WE MAY BE WORKING ON SOME THINGS IN THE INTERIM, IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE WAITING FOR THAT.

UM, THERE'S A LOT WE'RE PULLING TOGETHER, BUT THAT'S OUR, THAT'S OUR CURRENT SCHEDULE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER NOW.

THANK YOU.

UM, FIRST IT'S GOOD TO BE BACK INTO THE USA AND, UM, I APPRECIATE STAFF KEEPING ME UP TO DATE WHILE I WAS OUT OF THE COUNTRY.

AND, UM, TO THE MOBILE HOME PARK ATTENDANCE, MY HEART JUST BREAKS FOR YOU.

I JUST CAN'T IMAGINE, UM, THE, UM, THE DISTRESS YOU'RE UNDER.

AND I WANNA HELP IN ANY WAY THAT I CAN IN MY DISTRICT, UH, WITH LITTLE WOODS.

UM, REACH OUT TO ME IF YOU NEED, UM, JUST TO TALK AND, UM, THANK YOU TO THE CITY ATTORNEY FOR KEEPING US UP TO DATE.

UM, ON GOOD NEWS, WE HAD A WONDERFUL ART AND GARDEN FESTIVAL YESTERDAY, WHICH, UM, THE DOWNTOWN ASSOCIATION PUT ON, AND THEY WERE REMINDING US THAT CONSUMERS, WE HAVE A BI LOCAL SHOP, LOCAL SIDEWALK SALES, AUGUST 1ST THROUGH THE FOURTH, AND YOU CAN GO DOWNTOWN AND GET SOME BARGAINS.

I DO A LOT OF CHRISTMAS SHOPPING.

THEN OUR PETALUMA MUSEUM, UM, JUST DEBUTED THEIR NEW EXHIBIT, IT'S CALLED HER SIDE OF THE STORY, CALIFORNIA PIONEER WOMEN.

AND IT WAS, UM, FEATURED ON CHANNEL SEVEN LAST NIGHT ON THE PROGRAM, LOCAL-ISH.

SO IT WAS REALLY A GREAT WAY TO COME BACK AND SEE PETALUMA, UM, ON THE NATIONAL NEWS.

SO, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME SORT OF COUNCIL UPDATE ON THE PAULA LANE SITUATION THAT, UM, MS. KIRK'S, UH, PRESENTED BECAUSE I DON'T THINK I'VE SEEN ANYTHING.

AND ALSO ON THE, UM, UM, THE, THE GENTLEMAN WITH THE PG E SITUATION AND THE WASTEWATER, UM, IF WE COULD HAVE AN UPDATE ON THAT AS WELL.

AND, UM, AS FAR AS, UM, ECONOMIC HOLES THAT WE HAVE IN OUR RETAIL, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER CATER THOMPSON, NOT ONLY DO WE NEED A SHOE STORE, BUT WE NEED A, AN APPLIANCE STORE AND SOME OTHER BIG MAJOR SHOPPING THINGS.

SO, UM, AS A CONSUMER, I KNOW WE NEED THESE THINGS AND I MISS SOLE DESIRES HERE IN DOWN, SO THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER POKAY.

THANK YOU, SIR.

UM, I, UH, WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO ATTEND THE, UH, PRAYER VIGIL THAT THE YOUNGSTOWN FOLKS HAD.

AND JUST IN REGARD TO THAT, AND IN THE WAY YOU GUYS HAVE HANDLED YOURSELF ALL THROUGH THIS, I JUST WANT TO, UH, UH, THANK YOU.

I THINK WE ALL WANNA THANK YOU FOR THE PATIENCE YOU'VE SHOWN AS WE'VE TRY TO DETERMINE THE, THE BEST WAY TO MOVE FORWARD.

UH, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UM, IN THE, UM, IN RESPECT TO THE HOMELESS COALITION, UH, WE HAVE MEETINGS ALL THE TIME, AND I WOULD JUST, UH, LIKE TO, UH, UH, UH, UPDATE YOU IN TERMS OF THE FACT THAT, UM, THE, UH, THE HOMELESS PREVENTION PROJECT, THE CITY HAS HELPED SUPPORT ALONG WITH THE CITY OF SANTA ROSA AND THE COUNTY, UM, UH, TO BE COUNTYWIDE IS, UH, IS THE APPLICATIONS I BELIEVE ARE ALL IN AT THIS POINT.

AND ALTHOUGH THEY'VE NOT BEEN EVALUATED, SO THAT, UH, WE'LL BE CHOOSING THE, UH, THE OVERARCHING ORGANIZATION TO RUN THE PROGRAM AS WELL AS LOCAL HUBS, UH, IN THE, IN THE NEXT MONTH.

YES.

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AND FINALLY, UH, I'M STILL, UH, UM, HOPEFUL OF A CEASEFIRE IN THE MIDDLE EAST AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UM, AND MY UPDATE, UH, I, I, UH, ATTEND THE MAYORS AND COUNCILS OF SONOMA COUNTY.

AND OUR LAST MEETING, WE COVERED ALL OF THE BALLOT ISSUES, ITEMS THAT ARE GONNA COME UP, AND THERE'S A SALES TAX MEASURE FOR CHILDREN AND CHILDCARE, WHICH WE DISCUSSED.

AND, UH, MEASURED J WHICH IS ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT REGARDING FARMING.

UH, BUT SO MANY STATEWIDE, THERE'S MAYBE A DOZEN STATEWIDE PROPOSITIONS, UH, HALF OF THEM PUT ON BY THE LEGISLATURE, AND HALF OF THEM PUT ON BY, UH, PUBLIC ADVOCACY GROUPS.

SO IT WILL BE A BUSY, UH, LEGISLATIVE AGENDA, SOME OF WHICH WILL HELP THE CITY, UM, LIKE THERE'S, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING BONDS AS, UH, ON THAT LIST AND CLIMATE BONDS THAT ARE ON THAT LIST.

UM, I ALSO WANNA SAY THANKS TO STAFF FOR, UM, ALL THE NEW BIKE, UH, RACKS THROUGH THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

THEY'RE ATTRACTIVE, THEY'RE FUNCTIONAL.

UM, YOU KNOW, THEY MAKE THE CHOICE FOR BIKING AND GETTING OUTTA YOUR CAR SO MUCH EASIER.

AND ALSO, UH, LIKE TO THANK THE VOLUNTEERS, UH, AT THE 4TH OF JULY CELEBRATION OVER THE COMMUNITY CENTER WHO PUT TOGETHER A BIKE VALET, A BIKE PARKING STATION, SO THAT, UH, YOU COULD GO TO THAT EVENT.

UM, AND, UH, THOSE ARE ALL VOLUNTEERS, UH, AT SOME POINT, UH, THEY WORK AT THE BUTTER AND EGGS DAY PARADE, WHERE IT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE AN INTEGRATED PROGRAM OF THE CITY.

IT'S GETTING SO HUGE, SO SUCCESSFUL, UH, IT'S A GOOD KIND OF SUCCESS.

AND THEN, UM, I ALSO, UH, ATTENDED THE OPENING OF THE, UH, PETALUMA MINI LIBRARY.

THE LIBRARY HAS NOW CLOSED WHERE IT'S BIG REFRESH, UH, GONNA REBUILD THE WHOLE LIBRARY, UH, WITH SO MANY THINGS THAT ARE NECESSARY.

BUT THEY'VE OPENED THE MINI LIBRARY NEXT DOOR, WHICH IS THE KENILWORTH CENTER THAT'S ON THAT SAME PROPERTY NEXT TO THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT.

AND, UM, I WAS ALSO ABLE TO ATTEND A CELEBRATION OF, UH, INSTALLING BIKE REPAIR STATIONS.

UH, THAT'S FROM OUR, UH, 2020 3 24 LEADERSHIP CLASS, UH, AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER, THE SMART STATION KAVANAUGH MENTOR ME.

UM, AND THE, THE CHAMBER IS RECRUITING FOR NEW LEADERSHIP CANDIDATES IF YOU WANT TO SIGN UP FOR, UH, THAT FABULOUS PROGRAM.

AND THAT IS MY REPORT NOW, AND I'D LIKE TO PASS

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IT OVER TO OUR CITY MANAGER FOR HER REPORT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR, COUNCIL AND COMMUNITY.

UM, I WANTED TO, UH, LET EVERYONE KNOW TODAY IS THE FIRST DAY OF OUR CANDIDATE FILING PERIOD FOR THOSE WISHING TO RUN FOR COUNCIL DISTRICTS FOUR, FIVE, AND SIX, UM, OFFICIAL NOMINATION PETITIONS FOR ELIGIBLE CANDIDATES MAY BE OBTAINED FROM THE OFFICE OF OUR CITY CLERK, BEGINNING TODAY THROUGH FRI FRIDAY, AUGUST 9TH.

UH, YOU CAN SCHEDULE AN APPOINTMENT TO PULL PAPERS AND JUST CONTACT THE CITY CLERK AT CITY CLERK@CITYOFPETALUMA.ORG OR BY CALLING 7 0 7 7 7 8 4 3 6 0.

UM, WANTED TO RESPOND.

UM, MR. O'BRIEN, WE ARE, UH, THE CITY IS, UH, GOING TO BE DOING THE SEU SEWER LATERAL WORK AND FILING A CLAIM WITH PG AND E ON BEHALF OF THE CITY.

SO WE'LL BE TAKING CARE OF MR. O'BRIEN AND I BELIEVE THAT OUR CITY ENGINEER IS HERE TO, TO COORDINATE WITH MR. O'BRIEN.

UM, OUR PPD HAS BEEN, UH, DILIGENTLY WORKING ON OUR, UM, ON UPDATING AND ENHANCING OUR E-BIKE, UM, AND MOTORCYCLE REGULATIONS.

UM, THEY'VE ALSO BEEN DOING A TON OF EDUCATION, AND WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH THE SONOMA COUNTY BICYCLE COALITION TO DO A, A BIKE, ONE CALLED BIKE RODEO, BUT IT'S A, IT'S A BIKE CLASS, UM, IN AUGUST ON THE FAIRGROUNDS.

SO WE'RE SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

I THINK IT'S AUGUST 25TH, BUT I DON'T HAVE THE DATE ON ME RIGHT NOW.

UM, ALSO WANTED TO GET AN UPDATE ON PAUL LANE, AND I'VE GOT PATRICK CARTER, UM, WHO'S BEEN WORKING HARD ON THAT PROPERTY TO GIVE US AN UPDATE.

THANK YOU.

CITY MANAGER, MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, UM, TRYING TO AVOID MAKING THIS A STAFF REPORT.

I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF ON THIS.

UH, WHEN I INHERITED THIS PROJECT, I THINK IT WAS 2019, UH, THERE WAS A LOT OF DISTRUST WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, UPSET ABOUT, UM, HOW THAT PROJECT WAS BEING RUN.

SO I QUESTIONED THE ASSUMPTIONS OF, OF HOW IT WAS MANAGED.

UH, PREVIOUSLY I GATHERED SOME EXPERTS FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF, UM, CALIFORNIA COOPERATIVE EXTENSION, THE SONOMA RESOURCE CONSERVATION DISTRICT, AND OUR BIOLOGIST TEAM ON SO OLOGY, THEY DETERMINED THAT THE SITE WAS, UH, POORLY MANAGED.

THERE WERE INVASIVE, INVASIVE PLANT SPECIES THAT WERE TAKING OVER ON THE SITE, CROWDING OUT THE NATIVE PLANTS AND THE, THE ANIMAL HABITAT, INCLUDING THAT OF THE PROTECTED AMERICAN BADGER.

AND IT WAS DIMINISHING THE

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CONSERVATION VALUES OF THAT SITE, WHICH THE CITY IS REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN BY OUR CONSERVATION EASEMENT.

SO, UM, TALKING WITH THAT TEAM, UM, FIGURING OUT HOW WE COULD IMPROVE THAT SITE, HOW WE COULD REPAIR SOME OF THAT DAMAGE, THEY DETERMINED THAT SHORT TERM REGENERATIVE GRAZING WOULD'VE, WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO RESOLVE THOSE ISSUES AS WELL AS TO REDUCE, UH, POTENTIAL FUEL, UM, THAT COULD, UH, EXACERBATE A WILDFIRE IF ONE WERE TO HAPPEN ON THAT SITE.

SO, SO THAT WAS THE GENESIS OF, OF THAT GRAZING PLAN.

AND IN THAT PLAN, UM, THERE NEEDED TO BE FENCING.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A FENCE HERE.

IT'S REPLACING EXISTING FENCE, WHICH THE EXISTING FENCE INCLUDED BARBED WIRE IN MANY OF THOSE LOCATIONS.

IT WAS REPLACED.

UM, WE'VE MADE SOME INITIAL REFINEMENTS TO THAT FENCE, UM, WITH OUR CONTRACTOR THAT INSTALLED IT, AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO EXAMINE ADDITIONAL REFINEMENTS, UM, TO IMPROVE THE ACCESS FOR WILDLIFE ON THAT SITE COMING AND GOING FROM IT.

UM, SO THAT'S KIND OF IT IN A NUTSHELL.

UM, MORE INFORMATION TO COME IN THE FUTURE AND WE'LL KEEP UPDATES COMING.

THANK YOU.

AND JUST A REMINDER THAT WE HAVE, UM, THE PETALUMA MUSIC FESTIVAL, UM, AT THE FAIRGROUNDS, UH, SATURDAY THE 27TH.

WE'VE GOT RIVERTOWN REVIVAL THIS WEEKEND, FRIDAY AND SATURDAY FROM FIVE TO 10:00 PM I, THEIR CLIENT RIVERTOWN REVIVAL AFTER DARK, THAT'S AT MCNAIR PENINSULA.

WE HAVE OUR NATIONAL NIGHT OUT ON TUESDAY, AUGUST 6TH FROM FOUR TO SEVEN ALSO AT THE FAIRGROUNDS, AND THAT'S SPONSORED BY OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY.

SO, UH, INVITING FOLKS TO COME OUT FOR FAMILY FRIENDLY EVENTS, FREE FOOD AND ACTIVITIES, AND, AND GET TO KNOW YOUR CITY.

AND I KNOW I'M MISSING A BUNCH OF OTHER EVENTS, BUT TIS THE SEASON, SO HOPE THAT PEOPLE COME UP.

THERE IS NO SHORTAGE OF EVENTS ARE THERE, YOU KNOW, UM, VERY BUSY.

UH, IF I COULD, UH, IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE HAD THAT, UH, SNIPPET OF A, OF PAUL LANE, UM, STAFF PRESENTATION.

UH, IF WE COULD HAVE THAT POSTED TO THE CITY'S WEBSITE, UH, YOU KNOW, AS A SUMMARY OF CURRENT ACTIONS AND PERHAPS ANY REPORTS AND THINGS, UH, POSTED TO THAT TOO.

WE WILL BE UPDATING OUR WEBSITE AND ALSO PUTTING SIGNAGE ON THE, ON THE PROPERTY AS WELL.

YES TO BOTH.

AND THE WEBSITE WAS UPDATED TODAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

I MEAN, WE CAN'T GO TOO FAR IN TERMS OF TRANSPARENCY, UM, AND COMMUNICATION WITH THE PUBLIC.

SO, UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT REPORT BACK.

AND, UM, SO AT THIS POINT WE MOVE, UH, FORWARD INTO OUR CONSENT CALENDAR AND, UM, I KNOW MAYBE SOME OF YOU MIGHT WANT TO, UH, SPEND YOUR EVENING A DIFFERENT WAY THAN LISTENING TO OUR BUSINESS ITEMS, BUT, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL PAUSE FOR 30 SECONDS WHILE, UM, SOME OF YOU MAKE YOUR WAY TO THE DOOR.

AND THAT BRINGS US TO

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OUR CONSENT CALENDAR FOR THE EVENING.

AND I'D LIKE TO ASK, UH, ACROSS THE COUNCIL DIOCESE, IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTION ON ANY ITEM ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

AND, UH, SEEING NO QUESTIONS, NO HANDS RAISED, I'D LIKE TO ASK OUR CLERK TO, UH, INVITE THE PUBLIC IN AND TELL US WHAT THE PUBLIC'S THOUGHT SO FAR.

SURE.

WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY, UH, COMMENTS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

UM, BUT MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING IN PERSON THIS EVENING SHOULD BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARDS TO THE CLERK'S DESK IF THEY HAVE NOT ALREADY DONE SO.

SPEAKERS ARE REMINDED TO BE RESPECTFUL IN THEIR COMMENTS AND THAT THIS MEETING IS BEING TRANSLATED.

PLEASE PAUSE BETWEEN SENTENCES FOR TRANSLATION.

THE TIMER BEHIND THE DICE WILL BE RESET FOR EACH SPEAKER AND SEEING NO, UH, CARDS COMING FORWARD AND SPEAKERS COMING FORWARD, UH, WE CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT ON IT AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COUNCIL.

COUNCIL MEMBER HEALY.

YEAH, I'D, I'D MOVE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS ONE THROUGH FIVE AND COUNCIL, UM, I WOULD SECOND, BUT I CAN'T VOTE ON NUMBER ONE BECAUSE I WASN'T HERE FOR THAT MEETING.

SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS.

I THINK WE'LL TELL, STILL BE ABLE TO TAKE A COMPLETE VOTE AND IT'LL BE SO NOTED.

AND SO, UM, THIS, WE HAVE A SECOND FROM BARNACLE AND SO, OR NO, WE HAVE A SECOND FROM NOW.

AND, UH, WITH THAT, MY APOLOGIES, I YES, .

SO WE'RE CLEAR ON WHERE WE'RE GOING AND, UH, SEEING NO OTHER

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COMMENTS, UH, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.

UH, BARNACLE AYE.

CATER THOMPSON.

YES.

HEALY, YES.

NOW YES.

.

YES.

SHRI, YES.

MCDONALD.

YES.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THAT MOVES US

[PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION]

INTO, UM, ITEM SIX, AND THAT'S A PUBLIC HEARING AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION.

THIS IS THE FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE TO CHANGE CERTAIN APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE OPERATION OF THE CITY FROM FISCAL YEAR 2324, RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE COMMITMENT AND RELEASE OF VARIOUS GENERAL FUND RESERVES FOR SPECIFIC USES IN FINDING THIS ACTION IS NOT A PROJECT PURSUANT TO CQA.

AND TO HELP US WITH THIS, UH, JESSE G***H, OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR MCDONALD AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, TONIGHT'S YEAR END BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS COMPRISE A VARIETY OF CLEANUP ITEMS AS WE BEGIN WORK ON CLOSING OUT THE FISCAL 2324 YEAR.

WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY BROUGHT YOU BUDGET AMENDMENTS OH, FOR THE FIRST TWO QUARTERS OF THE FISCAL YEAR.

SO THESE FINAL AMENDMENTS COVER COUNCIL RESOLUTIONS FROM JANUARY THROUGH JUNE, AS WELL AS MEMORIALIZING BUDGETS FOR GRANTS RECEIVED AND ADJUSTMENTS TO BRING THE BUDGET INTO ALIGNMENT WITH CURRENT PROJECTIONS FOR OUR COST RECOVERY COST CENTERS, WE ARE INCREASING BOTH REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE BUDGETS WHEN REVENUES GREATLY EXCEEDED THE BUDGETED AMOUNT.

WE ARE FORTUNATE TO BE MAKING THESE ADJUSTMENTS FOR PLANNING COST RECOVERY, AMBULANCE SERVICES, AND FOR RECREATION CONTRACT CLASSES.

IN THE GENERAL FUND, OUR SALES TAX AND PROPERTY TRANSFER TAX REVENUES ARE ANTICIPATED TO END THE YEAR UNDER BUDGET.

AND SO WE HAVE BROUGHT ADJUSTMENTS TO REDUCE THOSE REVENUES.

MEASURE USE SALES TAX IS PROJECTED TO END THE YEAR HIGHER THAN BUDGETED.

AND SO WE HAVE INCLUDED A TRANSFER OF $360,000 FROM THE MEASURE U FUND TO THE GENERAL FUND TO HELP OFFSET THE GENERAL FUND'S DECREASED REVENUES.

THESE ASSORTED ADJUSTMENTS ENSURE THAT THE FINAL BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2324 ACCOUNTS FOR ALL ACTIVITY IN THE FISCAL YEAR.

AND THEY MAKE IT EASIER FOR US TO LATER CARRY FORWARD ANY BUDGETS INTO FISCAL YEAR 24 25 IF NEEDED.

IN ADDITION TO THE ORDINANCES FOR THESE BUDGET AMENDMENTS, WE HAVE A RESOLUTION TO UPDATE THE GENERAL FUND COMMITTED FUND BALANCE AS OF JUNE 30TH, 2024.

THE GOVERNMENTAL ACCOUNTING STANDARDS BOARD REQUIRES THAT COMMITMENT OR RELEASE OF FUND BALANCES FOR SPECIFIC PURPOSES, MUST BE AUTHORIZED BY RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

THE GENERAL FUND COMMITTED FUND BALANCE IS CURRENTLY 1.45 MILLION.

THIS RESOLUTION WILL ADD 0.52 MILLION FOR FUTURE USE FOR THE GENERAL PLAN AND FOR TURF REPLACEMENT.

AND IT WILL RELEASE 0.87 MILLION FOR FISCAL 25 USE FOR EMPLOYEE COMPENSATION AND TURF REPLACEMENT.

AND THOSE AMOUNTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN BUDGETED IN THE ADOPTED FISCAL 25 BUDGET.

SO WE'RE JUST RELEASING THE DOLLARS SO THAT WE CAN SPEND THEM AS YOU'VE ALREADY APPROVED.

SO THE END RESULT WILL BE $1.1 MILLION IN COMMITTED FUND BALANCE AS OF JUNE 30TH, 2024.

SO TONIGHT I RECOMMEND THAT YOU INTRODUCE THE ORDINANCES AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 20 23 24 BUDGET AND ADOPT A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE COMMITMENT AND RELEASE OF GENERAL FUND RESERVES FOR SPECIFIC USES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS ON COUNCIL? UM, I HAD JUST, UH, UH, ONE, UM, GENERALLY THIS MEANS WE ACHIEVED MORE LAST YEAR THAN WE LOGGED LAST TIME.

WE'RE WE'RE SAYING WE DID MORE, LIKE WE'RE PAYING MORE BILLS IN THE LAST YEAR, RIGHT? FOR SOME OF THE ADJUSTMENTS? YES.

SO WE'RE ADJUSTING FOR A VARIETY OF THINGS, INCLUDING RESOLUTIONS THAT YOU PASSED, BUT WE NEED TO ACTUALLY DO THE ORDINANCE TO ADJUST THE BUDGET, UM, GRANTS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED.

AND THEN FOR THOSE COST CENTERS THAT I MENTIONED SUCH AS, YOU KNOW, PLANNING, UM, THEY, UM, PERFORMED ABOUT HALF A MILLION DOLLARS MORE IN SERVICES THAN WE HAD ORIGINALLY BUDGETED FOR.

AND SO BECAUSE THEY WORKED MORE AND RECEIVED MORE MONEY, WE'RE JUST INCREASING THE BUDGET TO REFLECT THAT.

SO IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THEY'VE GONE OVER BUDGET WHEN REALLY THEY'VE DONE THE WORK AND THEY'VE EARNED THE MONEY.

I, I DO LIKE THE, THAT THE CITY IS GETTING MORE DONE ALL THE TIME.

AND THAT'S KIND OF THE POINT I WANTED TO RISE FROM THIS.

SO, MM-HMM, , UM, THAT'S GREAT.

LET'S, UM, GO TO OUR PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD AND, UM, SEE IF WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT.

WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT AHEAD OF THE MEETING, UH, BUT I'LL READ OUR INSTRUCTIONS NOW.

MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING IN PERSON SHOULD BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARDS TO THE CLERK'S DESK IF THEY HAVE NOT ALREADY DONE SO.

SPEAKERS ARE REMINDED TO BE RESPECTFUL IN THEIR COMMENTS AND THAT THIS MEETING IS BEING TRANSLATED.

PLEASE PAUSE BETWEEN SENTENCES FOR TRANSLATION.

THE TIMER BEHIND THE DIES WILL BE RESET FOR EACH SPEAKER.

OKAY.

SO, UM, LOOKS LIKE THIS ONE DIDN'T HIT THE PUBLIC, UH, UH, INTEREST POINT AND WE CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THE EVENING AND BACK TO COUNCIL.

I JUST HAVE A QUICK COMMENT.

UM, I WAS A PETAL

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OF A MARKET YESTERDAY AND RAN INTO THIS GENTLEMAN AND HE WAS JUST THANKING THE CITY FOR ALL WE'RE DOING AND BECAUSE OF THIS TAX MEASURE, WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO WITH THIS CITY.

SO IT, IT WAS PERFECT TIMING.

WONDERFUL.

AND, UH, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION .

SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY CATER THOMPSON, A SECOND BY BARNACLE.

AND MAY WE HAVE A ROLL CALL? VOTE BARNACLE.

AYE.

CATER THOMPSON? YES.

HEALY? YES.

NOW? YES.

OSA OKAY.

YES.

TRIPS? YES.

MCDONALD? YES.

MOTION CARRIES.

WONDERFUL.

THANK YOU.

UM, NEXT WE HAVE ITEM SEVEN.

AND THIS IS, UH, A RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE CITY'S EXPENSE REIMBURSEMENT POLICY FOR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS PURSUANT TO GAL CALIFORNIA GOVERNMENT CODE 5 3 2 3, 2 THROUGH 5, 3, 2, 3, 2 0.4.

AND TRAINING PURSUANT TO AB 1, 2, 3, 4, AND REPEALING REPLACING RESOLUTION 2003 0 45 NCS.

TO HELP US WITH THIS TONIGHT, WE HAVE, UM, UH, DYLAN BRADY, OUR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY, AND JORDAN GREEN, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY TO GUIDE US THROUGH.

THANK YOU MAYOR CITY COUNCIL, DYLAN BRADY, JORDAN GREEN.

AND WE ALSO WANT TO GIVE A BIG SHOUT OUT TO OUR INTERN MIA BARSI, WHO HELPED US GET TO THE FINISH LINE HERE.

SHE WANTED TO PRESENT, BUT SOMETHING CAME UP AND, UH, JORDAN AND I ARE PINCH HITTING FOR HER.

UH, SO MAYBE NEXT SLIDE, CAITLIN.

SO THE GOVERNMENT CODE ALLOWS CITY COUNCIL TO BE REIMBURSED FOR THEIR, UH, ACTUAL NECESSARY EXPENSES TO PERFORM THEIR OFFICIAL DUTIES FOR BEING CITY COUNCIL.

TO THAT END, BACK IN 2003, CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED A RESOLUTION.

THIS RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS ITEM TONIGHT IS TO REPEAL THAT PREVIOUS REIMBURSEMENT POLICY WITH THE UPDATED PROPOSED POLICY, WHICH IS BETTER.

AND WE WILL BE EXPLAINING THROUGHOUT THE NEXT SEVEN SLIDES WHY THIS NEW POLICY HAS APPEARED THAN THE PREVIOUS ONE.

SO FIRST, IT WILL INCREASE OPPORTUNITIES TO DISCUSS COMMUNITY CONCERNS WITH LOCAL, STATE, AND FEDERAL OFFICIALS.

IT WILL F BETTER ENABLE OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO PARTICIPATE IN ORGANIZATIONS THAT MAY IMPACT THE CITY.

IT IMPROVES THEIR SKILLS AND THEIR EXPERTISE BY GOING TO TRAININGS THAT MAY NOT OTHERWISE BE AVAILABLE.

AND IT PROVIDES COMPENSATION FOR THE ACTU ACTUARIAL ACTUAL AND NECESSARY EXPENSES, WHICH WILL HOPEFULLY ALSO MAKE IT MORE AVAILABLE TO DIVERSE CANDIDATES.

NEXT SLIDE.

UH, SO AB 1, 2, 3, 4 WAS ADOPTED IN 2005, WHICH SAID, WHICH CREATED A MANDATORY TRAINING YEAR PROGRAM FOR TWO HOURS EVERY TWO YEARS.

FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO ARE COMPENSATED EVEN AT OUR MINIMAL RATE OR RECEIVE REIMBURSEMENTS FROM THE CITY, THEY REQ, IT REQUIRES THE LOCAL AGENCY, SUCH AS THE CITY OF PETALUMA, TO ADOPT A WRITTEN POLICY THAT DEFINES WHAT OFFICIAL DUTIES ARE, WHAT COULD BE REIMBURSED, AND THE AMOUNT FOR THE REIMBURSEMENT.

UH, SO WHY ARE WE RE UPDATING IT NOW? IT'S BECAUSE THE LAWS HAVE BEEN UPDATED SINCE WE FIRST ADOPTED THE POLICY IN 2003.

THIS WILL ALSO ALLOW FOR MORE TRANSPARENCY, SO OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS MAY LOOK AT THE POLICY AND KNOW WHAT YOUR OFFICIAL DUTIES ARE, AS WELL AS WHAT COSTS WILL BE REIMBURSED AND IT ADDS CLARITY.

UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

CAITLYN.

SO, LIKE JORDAN SAID, OUR POLICY NEEDS TO DEFINE OFFICIAL DUTIES THAT WAS NOT IN OUR 2003 POLICY, BUT WE, UH, DEFINED IT IN THE PROPOSED POLICY.

HERE ARE A COUPLE EXAMPLES, BUT IT'S PARTICIPATING IN COMMUNICATING WITH DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES, UH, ORGANIZATIONS, MEMBERSHIPS, UH, GOING TO A CITY COUNCIL MEETING, YOUR STAFF LIAISON MEETINGS.

THOSE WOULD BE OFFICIAL DUTIES, AND YOU'RE ABLE TO BE RE UH, REIMBURSED FOR YOUR NA NECESSARY AND ACTUAL EXPENSES TO PERFORM THOSE OFFICIAL DUTIES.

AND THIS IS WITHIN SECTION THREE OF OUR PROPOSED POLICY.

UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

CAITLYN.

SO WE DEFINED OFFICIAL DUTIES, AND THEN OUR POLICY ALSO DEFINES WHAT ACTUAL AND NECESSARY EXPENSES ARE.

HERE'S A COUPLE OF LISTS, AND IT'S A NON EXHAUSTIVE LIST.

SAME WITH OFFICIAL DUTIES.

OFFICIAL DUTIES.

YOU COULD PROBABLY ALSO LOOK AT THE CITY CHARTER.

THAT WILL HELP EXPLAIN WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL OFFICIAL DUTIES ARE.

BUT THOSE ACTUAL

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NECESSARY EXPENSES AS PART OF YOUR OFFICIAL DUTIES COULD BE TRANSPORTATION.

THAT INCLUDES AIRFARE, GAS, CAR RENTALS, TAXIS.

OUR, OUR 2003 ONE HAD LIMO SERVICES, SO WE STRUCK OUT LIMO SERVICES, .

SO YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO BE REIMBURSED FOR LIMOS ANYMORE TO GO TO CONFERENCES.

UH, BUT THERE IS LODGING, UH, THAT'S HOTELS IF YOU GO TO CITY COUNCIL OR CAL CITY MEETINGS AND CONFERENCES, THE MEALS, THOSE ARE PER DIEMS. UM, AND THEN THERE IS A BIG CATCHALL, MISCELLANEOUS, WHICH MIGHT INCLUDE AS AN EXAMPLE, BUSINESS CARDS.

AND THEN THIS IS ALSO DEFINED IN SECTION FOUR OF OUR POLICY, AND IT PROVIDES SOME EXCLUSIONS THAT WOULD BE PERSONAL ITEMS, UH, ALCOHOL, TOBACCO GIFTS OR SPOUSES, UH, ITEMS LIKE THAT.

SO ONE MORE IMPROVEMENT IN THIS POLICY IS THAT IT RELIES ON FEDERAL RATES, WHICH ARE ANNUALLY UPDATED, AND THEY ARE PER GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION.

OUR OLD POLICY PROVIDED FOR 36 CENTS A GALLON REIMBURSEMENT.

RIGHT NOW IT'S AT 67 CENTS.

SO THIS ALLOWS THE POLICY TO BE UPDATED WITH THE YEARLY UPDATES.

UH, IF FOR SOME REASON A COUNCIL MEMBER, IF FOR SOME ODD REASON OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR DECLINED A REIMBURSEMENT, OUR COUNCIL MEMBER HAS THE RIGHT TO APPEAL THAT.

IT ALSO, IF THERE ARE ANY VIOLATIONS BY PO OF POLICIES OR THIS POLICY BY COUNCIL MEMBERS, THERE IS A SECTION FOR HOW WE WOULD ADDRESS THAT.

THIS IS ALL REQUIRED BY THE LAW, WHICH IS WHY IT'S INCLUDED IN HERE.

IT DESCRIBES THAT THE CITY CLERK WILL MAINTAIN THE RECORDS, SO IN CASE THERE'S ANY PUBLIC RECORDS ACT REQUEST, YOUR SUBMITTAL AND WHAT'S PROVIDED WILL BE WITH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.

AND THAT'S DISCLOSED TO THE PUBLIC.

AND THE POLICY, WHICH IS ALSO REQUIRED BY LAW, REQUIRES THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS REPORT AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING ABOUT MEETINGS.

THEY JUST ATTENDED JUSTICE AS COUNCIL MEMBER HEALY DID ABOUT THE LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES.

SO, KAILYNN, NEXT SLIDE.

AND IT'S JUST GONNA BE THE WRAP UP SLIDE THAT SAYS QUESTIONS WE'RE, THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO US AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE THE VERY, UH, CONCISE, UM, REPORT AND VICE MAYOR SHRI.

UM, YEAH, JUST TO GET A LITTLE MORE CONCRETE ON WHAT'S ALLOWED AND NOT ALLOWED.

UH, 'CAUSE SO FAR I'VE TAKEN CARE OF MY, ALL MY EXPENSES MYSELF SO FAR.

I HAVEN'T EVEN PUT ANYTHING IN, BUT I MIGHT ACTUALLY NOW.

SO AT, UH, 60 CENTS PER MILE, DOES IT MATTER IF I'M DRIVING MY VERY EXPENSIVE TRUCK OR AM I TAKING MY EV UH, CAR, OR AM I TAKING MY EV BIKE? CAN I TAKE ALL THREE AND 67 CENTS PER MILE NO MATTER WHAT? THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THE FEDERAL IRS PER MILEAGE ACCOUNTS FOR DIFFERENT VEHICLES.

I THINK IT JUST SAYS 67 CENTS A MILE.

SO YOU MIGHT BE, I DON'T KNOW.

SO IF I COME HERE TONIGHT, IT'S TWO, TWO MILES I MY BIKE, I CAN CHARGE 67 CENTS PER MILE FOR THE TWO MILES.

WELL, YOUR CAR VEHICLE, I, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT A BICYCLE, BUT WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT.

IT'S HOPEFULLY EXPLAINS IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THE BIKE STILL COST ME MONEY.

YEAH, OKAY.

ANYWAY, THAT, THAT'S JUST TO BE CLEAR.

UM, AND ONE THING I WOULD CHALLENGE YOU MAYBE ON THE LIMO, 'CAUSE I THINK UBER AND LYFT ARE CONSIDERED LIMOS, NOT TAXIS.

SO IF WE ARE IN A FOREIGN CITY AND NEED AN UBER OR LYFT SOMEWHERE, THOSE ARE CONSIDERED LIMOS, I THINK, AND NOT TAXIS.

UH, SO YOU MAY WANT TO RECONSIDER YOUR, YOUR LIMO SERVICE, NOT A REAL LIMO, BUT UBER AND LYFT MIGHT, MIGHT BE ALLOWED THEN IF, IF, IF YOU ALLOW LIMO SERVICES WHEN THE POLICY DOES ALLOW FOR SOME DISCRETION.

SO AN EXAMPLE LIKE THAT, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO SAY, HERE ARE THE, HERE'S WHAT I TOOK AND HERE'S WHY.

AND THEN OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR, ANCY MANAGER, COULD REVIEW THAT.

WELL, AND I'LL JUST ADD TO THAT IN OUR POLICY AND SECTION 5 1 15, IT SAYS TAXI SHUTTLES OR OTHER TRANSIT.

SO IT WAS A LITTLE TONGUE IN CHEEK THAT OUR PREVIOUS ONE SAID LIMOS, BUT I THINK THAT LIMO WOULD FALL WITHIN THE OTHER TRANSIT.

YEAH.

OKAY.

GOOD.

AND THEN ON, UM, SINCE WE'RE WE'RE ALLOWED $5 MEETINGS, SO IF I GO TO OTHER MEETINGS, LIKE I, I GO TO SEVERAL MEETINGS EVERY MONTH, UM, THAT I'M REQUIRED TO AS PART OF THE, THE SERVICES.

SO I CAN CHARGE $5 AND PUT THAT DOWN FOR EVERY MEETING LIKE THAT.

I, I BELIEVE THAT'S A CHARTER REQUIREMENT AND IT'S ONLY CITY COUNCIL, BUT THE MILEAGE TO AND FROM THOSE MEETINGS, MEETINGS THAT WOULD BE, BE ABLE TO BE RECOVERED.

SO I GET NOTHING ON A PER HOUR BASIS FOR, FOR THOSE MEETINGS.

YEAH.

JUST, JUST TO BE CLEAR ON WHERE, WHERE THESE THINGS ARE.

OKAY.

I JUST THOUGHT I'D JUST CHECK IN ON, ON THOSE PARTICULAR DETAILS.

YEAH.

AND THIS POLICY ALSO SAYS IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE REACH OUT TO THE CITY ATTORNEY, FINANCE DIRECTOR, CITY MANAGER TO HELP CLARIFY THIS.

OH.

AND IF I NEED TO GO TO SACRAMENTO TO ATTEND A MEETING THERE, DO I HAVE TO HAVE PRE-APPROVAL? SOME, SOMEONE ON THE STAFF, LIKE OUR, OUR CITY MANAGER OR, OR JUST GO AND THEN SUBMIT AND THEN GET IT CHALLENGED? I YOU WANNA TRY ANSWERING OR I CAN JOIN? OH, YEAH.

I DON'T THINK YOU NEED PRE-APPROVAL IN YOUR EXPENSE

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REIMBURSEMENT REPORT.

YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO, WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE NEED TO ADD A LITTLE MEMO SECTION TO IT AS I'M LOOKING AT IT RIGHT NOW, WHERE YOU COULD SAY, HERE'S WHAT I ATTENDED AND HERE'S HOW IT APPLIES TO THE POLICY.

OKAY, GOOD.

JUST IN CASE THERE'S A MEETING.

SO I DON'T HAVE TO ASK PERMISSION TO GO TO GET REIMBURSED, BUT IF I GO, I CAN ALWAYS ASK FOR MONEY AFTER THE FACT.

AND IF I COULD JUMP IN THERE, UM, COUNSEL, SO I THINK THE CURRENT PRACTICE IS APPROXIMATELY 1500 IS BUDGETED PER COUNCIL MEMBER.

UM, AND THAT, THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT, UM, THAT SUPPORTS, YOU'RE NOT NEEDING PRE-APPROVAL TO CARRY OUT OFFICIAL CITY BUSINESS.

IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, YOU CAN ALWAYS CHECK WITH FINANCE OR THE MANAGER'S OFFICE.

BUT THIS IS REALLY, THIS POLICY IS REALLY DESIGNED SO THAT YOU CAN CONTINUE TO FUNCTION AS YOU HAVE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE BEEN GREAT ABOUT REPORTING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY'RE DOING WHEN THEY'RE IN OFFICIAL CITY BUSINESS.

UM, BUT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU, IT'S CLEAR THAT YOU CAN BE REIMBURSED FOR YOUR, WHAT WOULD OTHERWISE BE OUT-OF-POCKET EXPENSES FOR CARRYING OUT CITY BUSINESS.

AND I THINK IT'S MORE THE, UM, AND THERE'S, THERE'S THAT BUDGET AMOUNT.

THE CITY MANAGER CAN ELABORATE OR, OR, OR JESSE CAN TOO.

UM, BUT IF, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S SORT OF OUTSIDE THE NORM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A SUBSTANTIAL EXPENSE THAT MIGHT BE WORTH CHECKING WITH, WITH STAFF ABOUT.

AND COUNCIL MEMBER, SHRI, YOU HAVE CHECKED IN WITH ME BEFORE, SO DON'T EVER HESITATE IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WANNA ATTEND JUST TO CHECK IN, DON'T NEED PRE-APPROVAL BECAUSE, 'CAUSE YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE FREE TO GO AND ATTEND WHATEVER YOU WANT, BUT I'M, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S ON CITY BUSINESS, WE'LL, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE NOT OUT OF POCKET.

RIGHT? THIS IS NOT INTENDED TO CONSTRAIN THE ALL THE GOOD WORK THE COUNCIL DOES FOR THE COMMUNITY.

ON THE CONTRARY, IT'S DESIGNED TO SUPPORT THAT AND ALSO FACILITATE YOU SHARING THE WORK YOU'RE DOING AT SUBSEQUENT COUNCIL MEETINGS.

SO THAT, THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT'S ABOUT.

GOOD.

AND, UH, I ASSUME THAT THERE'S A SPECIAL FORM, UH, THAT NEEDS TO BE FILLED OUT NOW, A DIFFERENT FORM OR WE HAVE THE CITY COUNCIL EXPENSE REPORT FORM, HOWEVER, IN REVIEWING IT, WE NEED TO UPDATE IT TO ALLOW THE COUNCIL MEMBER TO PUT A LITTLE MEMO AS TO WHY IT APPLIES TO THE POLICY, TO THEIR OFFICIAL DUTIES.

OKAY, GOOD.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ONE MORE, SORRY, ONE MORE LAST QUESTION.

UH, CAN WE BACKDATE IT TO THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, JANUARY? WELL, THE, THE CURRENT POLICY IS STILL IN EFFECT, SO AS LONG AS IT'S IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT, AND REALLY, THERE'S NOT TOO MANY CHANGES BESIDES SOME LEGISLATIVE, UH, ALLOWING THE FEDERAL RATES TO PROVIDE FOR IN THE FUTURE.

SO IF YOU ARE PRO LIKELY ABLE TO QUALIFY UNDER THIS ONE, YOU'D BE ABLE TO QUALIFY ON OUR CURRENT ONE.

SO YOU'D PROBABLY BE ABLE TO REIMBURSE.

SO I, I CAN BACK DATE IT TO THE MM-HMM.

FOR THE YEAR.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

YEAH, THERE'S NO, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED TO REPORT WITHIN 30 DAYS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT YEAH.

THANK YOU.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER HEALY? YEP.

NO, I'M FINE WITH THE EXCHANGES.

I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY ONE POINT, AND THAT IS THAT WITH RESPECT TO MY, UM, TRIP TO, UH, PASADENA LAST WEEK, UM, MY, MY SERVICE ON THE LEAGUE BOARD OF DIRECTORS IS REIMBURSED DIRECTLY BY THE CAL CITIES.

IT'S NOT REIMBURSED BY THE CITY, BUT RIGHT.

NO, THANK, THANK YOU.

WE WERE JUST TRYING TO USE IT AS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHEN A COUNCIL MEMBER DOES ATTEND ANOTHER EVENT THAN TO COME BACK AND SPEAK ABOUT IT AT OUR COUNCIL MEETING.

THANK YOU.

AND, AND I GUESS THAT'S BECAUSE YOU, NOW, YOU'RE AN OFFICIAL OFFICER OF THAT BODY NOW, RIGHT? YEAH.

CONGRATULATIONS.

UM, COUNCIL COUNCILMEMBER BARNACLE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER .

UH, I, I THINK I, YOU KNOW, THIS DOESN'T SEEM QUITE RIGHT NOW, BUT I MADE A NOTE HERE ABOUT, UH, NO REIMBURSEMENT OF TIPS OVER 15%, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK I'M SEEING MORE AND MORE WHEN THE SCREEN COMES UP, UH, OFFERING YOU TO MAKE A TIP THAT IT STARTS AT 18%.

I'M JUST WANTED TO ASK IF WE SHOULD RECONSIDER THAT.

YES.

AND I'LL DEFINITELY CONSIDER THAT.

GOOD, THANK YOU.

UM, AND THEN, UH, FOR CLARIFICATION THAT, UH, VEHICLE REIMBURSEMENT, UH, IS, IS THERE A, UH, GUIDANCE ON OUT OF JURISDICTION OR SOME, I MEAN, WE WERE KIDDING HERE ABOUT BICYCLE TO, UH, MEETING, BUT OUR GENERAL MEETINGS AREN'T REALLY REIMBURSABLE TRAVEL.

NO, I BELIEVE THAT'S RIGHT.

WE DO SAY, UH, THERE'S A 50 MILE THING.

SO ANY MEETING OUTSIDE OF 50 MILES, AND THAT'S IN SECTION 5.12, UM, YOU'RE ABLE TO REQUIRE TO USE OUR PERSONAL VEHICLES WITHIN 50 MILES.

AND THEN ANYTHING OUTSIDE, UH, THE MILEAGE WOULD BE ABLE TO BE ABLE TO GET REIMBURSED FOR THE MILEAGE.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM.

.

AND, AND THEN THE OTHER, AND THERE'S NO PARTICULAR DISTINCTION BETWEEN A TRAINING AND A OFFICIAL BUSINESS THAT REFERENCE TO SACRAMENTO, IF YOU WANTED A SACRAMENTO FOR A TRAINING VERSUS SACRAMENTO

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FOR AN OFFICIAL BUSINESS, IT'S ALL KIND OF ROLLED UP INTO WHAT'S EXPECTED TO CON CONDUCT YOUR BUSINESS.

BOTH WOULD BE CONSIDERED OFFICIAL BUSINESS.

YEAH.

AND WITH ALL OUR QUESTIONS ASKED, LET'S GO TO, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.

WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT AHEAD OF TIME, BUT I WILL GO AHEAD AND READ OUR INSTRUCTIONS.

MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING IN PERSON SHOULD BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARDS TO THE CLERK'S DESK IF THEY HAVE NOT ALREADY DONE SO.

SPEAKERS ARE REMINDED TO BE RESPECTFUL IN THEIR COMMENTS.

AND THAT THIS MEETING IS BEING TRANSLATED.

PLEASE PAUSE BETWEEN SENTENCES FOR TRANSLATION.

THE TIMER BEHIND THE DIES WILL BE RESET FOR EACH SPEAKER AND NOT SEEING ANYONE MAKING A RUSH UP.

WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM FOR THE EVENING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COUNCIL.

COUNCIL MEMBER HEALY.

YEP.

MOVE APPROVAL.

I'LL SECOND THAT.

I, UH, I, I DIDN'T HEAR THE SECOND.

THE SECOND IS CATER THOMPSON.

THANK YOU.

AND SO, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.

BARNACLE.

AYE.

CATER THOMPSON? YES.

HEALY? YES.

NOW? YES.

? YES.

SHRIVES? YES.

MCDONALD? YES.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

AND THANK YOU STAFF, APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION.

MOVING TO OUR NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS A RESOLUTION TO APPROVE THE BALLOT ARGUMENT FOR OUR UPCOMING UGB ENTITLED AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PETALUMA.

REPLACING, I THINK YOU SKIPPED ONE.

I THINK YOU SKIPPED EIGHT.

YEAH, YOU SKIPPED SOMETHING.

DID I SKIP EIGHT? MY BAD.

YEAH.

NUMBER EIGHT.

GETTING TOO EXCITED HERE.

UM, RESOLUTION APPOINTING INDIVIDUALS TO PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, HISTORIC AND CULTURAL PRESERVATION COMMITTEE.

AND, UH, TO HELP US WITH THIS, WE HAVE, UH, KAITLYN CORY, OUR, UM, CITY CLERK.

YES.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.

MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

UH, SO, UH, AS YOU MIGHT REMEMBER ON, OH, I'M NOT SHARING.

SORRY.

THERE WE GO.

UH, SO ON JUNE 17TH, COUNCIL APPOINTED 29 INDIVIDUALS TO OUR COMMITTEES AND COMMISSIONS.

UH, THAT EVENING, THERE WERE TWO SEATS THAT WERE NOT FILLED BECAUSE, UH, NO INDIVIDUALS RECEIVED FOUR VOTES.

THAT WAS ONE TWO YEAR TERM ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND A TWO YEAR TERM ON THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

UH, THERE WAS ALSO ONE OTHER SEAT THAT WASN'T FILLED THAT EVENING.

THE HISTORIC AND CULTURAL PRESERVATION COMMITTEE HAS A, A ONE YEAR TERM FOR A PETALUMA MUSEUM REPRESENTATIVE.

THE MUSEUM HAS BEEN UNABLE TO CONFIRM A RECOMMENDATION.

UM, THE ENABLING LEGISLATION DOES ALLOW COUNSEL TO APPOINT SOMEONE WITHOUT A RECOMMENDATION FOR A ONE YEAR TERM.

UH, WE DID REACH OUT TO THE MUSEUM AND, AND THEY INDICATED THEY WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH COUNCIL FILLING THIS SEAT.

OH, I'LL ACTUALLY PASS IT OVER TO THE MAYOR TO READ SOME, UH, VOTING INSTRUCTIONS BEFORE WE GET INTO THE VOTES.

RIGHT.

AND PROBABLY WILL GO TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT OR PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE WE GET TO THE VOTING ROUNDS AS WELL.

SO, UM, AGAIN, AS AS WE DID LAST, UH, MEETING OR TWO MEETINGS BACK WHEN WE, UH, HEARD THIS ITEM PRIOR, THE, UM, VOTING PROCEDURES ARE WE'LL CONSIDER, UM, EACH SEAT ONE AT A TIME, AND WE ONLY HAVE ONE SEAT FOR EACH OF THE GROUPS.

SO THAT'S KIND OF A GOOD THING.

IF AN APPLICANT RECEIVES A MAJORITY OF COUNCIL FOUR VOTES, THEY'LL BE APPOINTED TO THAT SEAT IN CASE OF A TIE.

UH, WE HAVE SEVEN MEMBERS TONIGHT.

I'M NOT EXPECTING ANY TIES, BUT, UM, AN ADDITIONAL ROUND OF VOTING WITH ONLY THE TIDE PARTIES WOULD BE, UH, CONDUCTED.

IF NO APPLICANT RECEIVES A MAJORITY, WELL, WE WOULD DO A SECOND ROUND OF VOTING, INCLUDING ONLY THOSE WHO'VE RECEIVED VOTES IN THE FIRST ROUND.

THEN WE'LL DO ADDITIONAL ROUNDS UNTIL AN APPLICANT RECEIVES A MAJORITY.

AND THEN, UH, COUNSEL'S NOT REQUIRED TO VOTE IN ANY ROUND.

ABSTAINING IS PERMITTED, HENCE THE TIES.

UM, THIS MAY MEAN THAT A POSITION IS NOT FILLED DUE TO LACK OF A MAJORITY VOTE SUPPORTIVE OF AN APPLICANT.

UM, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF HERE? UM, GOOD.

THEN LET'S, UM, MOVE OVER TO A PUBLIC COMMENT AND ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

CERTAINLY, WE DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY AHEAD OF TIME, BUT I'LL OPEN, OR I'LL READ THE INSTRUCTIONS NOW.

MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING IN PERSON SHOULD BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARDS TO THE CLERK'S DESK IF THEY HAVE NOT ALREADY DONE SO.

SPEAKERS ARE REMINDED TO BE RESPECTFUL IN THEIR COMMENTS.

AND THAT THIS MEETING IS BEING TRANSLATED.

PLEASE PAUSE BETWEEN SENTENCES FOR TRANSLATION.

THE TIMER BEHIND THE DI WILL BE RESET FOR EACH SPEAKER.

SEEING NO ONE WE WILL CLOSE.

PUBLIC COMMENT.

DID ALSO WANNA NOTE THAT, UM, APPOINTMENTS ARE, I, I THINK THAT'S FOR A DIFFERENT ITEM.

SO, UM, PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED AND I'LL CONTINUE.

UM, THE APPOINTMENTS ARE A HUGELY IMPORTANT PART OF THE CITY COUNCIL'S RESPONSIBILITIES.

THE APPOINTEES ARE, UH, PUBLIC OFFICIALS,

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AND THEY NEED TO HAVE CERTAIN SKILLS.

AND AMONG THOSE SKILLS IS RESPECT, RESPECT FOR THEIR POSITION, RESPECT FOR THE ROLE OF GOVERNMENT, AND RESPECT FOR THE STAFF AND CONSULTANTS THAT THEY WORK WITH.

DISSENTING OPINIONS ARE VALUABLE AND NATURAL, BUT IT MUST NEVER BECOME PERSONAL ATTACKS OR VILIFYING OF OTHERS IN THE PROCESS.

THE PUBLIC IS BEST SERVED BY APPOINTEES THAT VALUE OTHER PEOPLE WHO LISTEN TO ALL OPINIONS AND THEN ACT IN GOOD FAITH.

THE PUBLIC IS NOT WELL SERVED BY PEOPLE WHO DO NOT RESPECT OTHERS OR THAT ENGAGE IN PERSONAL ATTACKS ON OTHERS.

AND THIS SHOULD BE AN OBVIOUS AND FUNDAMENTAL TO THE COUNCIL'S APPOINTMENT VOTES.

UH, I DID WANT TO JUST SAY THAT AND THEN MOVE US BACK TO OUR CLERK FOR THE CONTINUED VOTING ROUND.

GREAT.

UH, SO I THOUGHT I WOULD FIRST SHARE JUST THE BACKGROUND OF THE VOTING, UH, FROM THE 17TH.

SO, FOR THE HISTORIC AND CULTURAL PRESERVATION, THERE WERE TWO ROUNDS OF VOTING.

IN THE FIRST ROUND, MARIO LOPEZ, UH, RECEIVED, UH, ENOUGH VOTES AND HE WAS APPOINTED.

AND IN THE SECOND ROUND, SAMANTHA BARCLAY SAXON WAS APPOINTED.

AND JUST A REMINDER, UM, THERE WAS, UH, WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY CONSIDER THE, THE THIRD SEAT THAT ONE YEAR TERM FOR THE MUSEUM REPRESENTATIVE BECAUSE THERE WAS NO, UH, RECOMMENDATION.

SO THAT'S THE SEAT THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING.

NOW.

UP ON THE SCREEN, UH, IS, UH, ALL OF THE, UH, APPLICANTS, INCLUDING THOSE WHO LISTED, UH, HCPC AS THEIR SECOND CHOICE.

SO IF I COULD HAVE, IF WE'RE READY FOR THE VOTES NOW, IF I COULD HAVE THE COUNCIL MEMBERS VOTE FOR ONE PERSON EACH.

ARE WE READY TO BEGIN? YES, PLEASE.

OKAY.

BARNACLE JENISON CATER THOMPSON.

ELIZABETH HEALY.

JENISON.

JEN.

NOW JENISON FE FUME.

IS IT THE SECOND ONE? SECOND ONE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

RES UH, JENISON MCDONALD JENISON.

PERFECT.

OKAY.

UH, SO ALEXANDER JENISON RECEIVED FIVE VOTES, SO HE WILL FILL THE ONE YEAR TERM.

UH, MOVING ON TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

UH, AT THE FIRST ROUND, UM, WE WERE ABLE TO APPOINT MICHAEL MILLER FOR ONE OF THE FOUR YEAR TERMS. IN THE SECOND ROUND, UH, IT WAS JULIA FOX AND ELLEN OSLER, WHO RECEIVED THE OTHER FOUR YEAR TERMS. AND JAVIER VERDE RECEIVED ONE OF THE TWO YEAR TERMS. UH, THIS WAS THE THIRD ROUND WHERE NO ONE WAS APPOINTED.

AND IN THE FOURTH ROUND, CATHERINE SULLIVAN WAS APPOINTED TO A TWO YEAR TERM.

IN THE FINAL ROUND, THIS WAS WHERE WE HIT A TIE, AND NO APPLICANT RECEIVED A MAJORITY.

UM, SO IF YOU WOULD PREFER, WE CAN START WITH THE FULL CREW OF EVERYONE WHO HAD, UH, APPLIED, OR WE CAN GO RIGHT TO THE FINAL TWO.

IT'S YOUR PREFERENCE.

I THINK, UH, IF IT'S, AND THE COUNCILS WILL, WE'LL GO TO THE FINAL TWO AND JUST FILL IN FROM THE FINAL TWO.

OKAY.

THEN IF WE'RE READY FOR A VOTE, UH, I'LL JUST HAVE YOU EACH VOTE FOR ONE.

BARNACLE MENDEZ.

MENDEZ.

MENDEZ HEALY KEARNEY.

NOW KEARNEY.

MENDEZ.

SCH SHRIMPS KEARNEY.

MCDONALD KEARNEY.

OKAY.

GABE KEARNEY RECEIVED FOUR VOTES, SO HE WILL BE APPOINTED TO THAT SEAT.

AND MOVING ON TO TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

IN THE FIRST ROUND, UH, BILL COVER AND DARREN KUEN RECEIVED FOUR VOTES AND WERE APPOINTED TO TWO, TWO YEAR TERMS. IN THE SECOND ROUND, THERE WAS ANOTHER TIE, UH, AND I BELIEVE THIS IS WHERE WE LEFT IT ON THAT ONE.

WE DO HAVE THE FULL LIST HERE, OR WE CAN GO TO THE FINAL TWO, IF THAT'S YOUR PREFERENCE.

AGAIN.

FINAL TWO IS OUR PREFERENCE.

OKAY.

BARNACLE STANSEL CATER THOMPSON STANSEL HEALY.

OBEYED, NOW OBEYED OBEYED SCH

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SHRIMPS OBEYED MCDONALD, UH, STAN CELL.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND TARAN OBEY RECEIVED FOUR VOTES, SO SHE WILL BE APPOINTED TO THAT SEAT.

UH, AND THAT'S ALL FOR THIS EVENING.

THANK YOU FOR MAKING A STRAIGHTFORWARD, WHAT COULD BE SO COMPLICATED.

ABSOLUTELY.

HAPPY TO HELP.

UH, WE'LL NEED THE FINAL MOTION FOR YOU.

AND NOW WE GET TO THE PART WHERE SOMEONE MAKES A MOTION.

HERE.

I'LL MOVE APPROVAL.

I'LL SECOND THAT.

THAT'S A MOTION BY BARNACLE.

AND A SECOND BY CATER THOMPSON.

ROLL CALL.

OKAY.

BARNACLE.

AYE.

CATER THOMPSON? YES.

HEALY? YES.

NOW? YES.

YES.

THIS POST.

OKAY.

YES.

SHRIVES? YES.

MCDONALD? YES.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THAT BRINGS US TO, UM, OH, TO NUMBER NINE, WHICH I WAS OVER EAGER ON BEFORE.

A RESOLUTION TO APPROVE THE BALLOT ARGUMENT FOR OUR MEASURE ENTITLED INORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PETALUMA, REPLACING EXISTING PETALUMA URBAN GROWTH BOUNDARY TO MODIFY EXISTING REFERENCES TO SPECIFIC POSSIBLE EXPANSION AREAS, MODIFY CRITERIA SPECIFIC TO TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT, AND EXTEND, UH, THE TERM OF THE BALLOT URBAN GROWTH BOUNDARY THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST, 2050.

AND HELPING US WITH THIS ITEM TONIGHT, WE HAVE HEATHER HINES, OUR SPECIAL PROJECTS MANAGER, AND OUR CITY ATTORNEY, ERIC DANLEY, UH, WHO, WHO GETS TO START? I'M GONNA START US OUT, MAYOR.

THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.

COUNCIL MEMBERS.

UM, SO WE ARE, UM, BACK THIS EVENING, UM, TO DO SOME OF THE FOLLOW UP FROM, UM, YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THIS ITEM ON JULY 1ST.

UM, SO AS YOU RECALL, UM, CITI HAS A LONG HISTORY OF LOCAL EFFORTS TO MANAGE GROWTH.

IT REALLY STARTED IN THE 1960S, UH, WITH, IN A RESPONSE TO SPRAWL AND, UM, CONCERNS ABOUT FAILING INFRASTRUCTURE.

THE URBAN GROWTH BOUNDARY WAS FIRST ADOPTED BY VOTERS IN 1998.

IT COMBINED CONFINED GROWTH AND PHYSICAL DEVELOPMENT.

AND THAT INITIAL ADOPTION, UH, WENT THROUGH 2018.

BUT AFTER ADOPTION OF OUR GENERAL PLAN IN 2008, IN 2010, UH, WE WENT BACK OUT TO THE VOTERS TO EXTEND THAT URBAN GROWTH BOUNDARY TO 2025.

AND SO WE ARE NEARING THE EXPIRATION OF OUR CURRENT UGB AT THE END OF 2025, WHICH IS WHY WE BEGAN, UM, THE PROCESS OF, UM, COMING BEFORE YOU TO DISCUSS A BALLOT MEASURE TO EXTEND THE CURRENT UGB.

SO WE CAME BEFORE YOU IN JANUARY FOR A WORKSHOP TO START DISCUSSION AND GET DIRECTION FROM THE CITY COUNCIL.

WE THEN WENT TO PLANNING COMMISSION WITH BALLOT LANGUAGE IN RESPONSE TO THE COUNCIL'S DIRECTION.

UM, AND THEN WE WERE BEFORE YOU ON JULY 1ST, UM, WITH THAT DRAFT BALLOT LANGUAGE, WHICH THE COUNCIL DID UNANIMOUSLY, UM, APPROVE, UH, FOR THE NOVEMBER 5TH ELECTION.

SO I WANNA JUST REMIND, UH, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THE BALLOT LANGUAGE THAT THE COUNCIL DID, UH, APPROVE TO BE PLACED ON THE BALLOT.

THERE IS NO CHANGE TO THE EXISTING UGB BOUNDARIES.

UH, THE CHANGES ARE TO EXTEND THE TERM OF THE UGB URBAN GROWTH BOUNDARY THROUGH THE END OF DECEMBER, 2050.

AND THAT WAS CHOSEN TO ALIGN WHEN WE WOULD ANTICIPATE WE WOULD HAVE OUR NEXT GENERAL PLAN.

UM, THERE WERE MODIFICATIONS TO CRITERIA SPECIFIC TO TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT AND ELIMINATION OF REFERENCES TO SPECIFIC POSSIBLE UGB EXPANSION AREAS, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A POSSIBLE UGB EXPANSION AREA, UH, APPROXIMATELY A HALF MILE RADIUS FROM THAT NORTH PETALUMA STATION.

THERE WERE ALSO CONFORMING AMENDMENTS TO THE GENERAL PLAN, UM, WITH ALL OF THE REFERENCES TO THE UGB AND THAT EXPIRATION DATE.

SO THAT IS THE BALLOT LANGUAGE IN SUMMARY, THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED ON JULY 1ST.

AND THAT WILL BE PLACED ON, UH, THE BALLOT FOR THE NOVEMBER 5TH ELECTION AT THE JULY 1ST, UM, CONSIDERATION OF THIS ITEM, THE CITY COUNCIL ALSO MOTION TO AUTHORIZE A SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO PREPARE A DRAFT ARGUMENT FOR THE MEASURE.

AND THAT IS REALLY THE FOCUS OF WHY WE ARE HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY.

UH,

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WE HAVE RETURNED WITH THE DRAFT THAT THE COMMITTEE SUBCOMMITTEE PUT TOGETHER FOR CONSIDERATION AND ADOPTION BY THE FULL COUNCIL.

I WANNA REMIND THE COUNCIL OF TWO THINGS SPECIFIC TO THIS DISCUSSION.

THE FIRST BEING THAT BASED ON REQUIREMENTS OF THE ELECTION CODE, ONLY THE SIGNATURES OF THE FIRST FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO SIGN, UH, THE ARGUMENT WILL ACTUALLY BE PRINTED WITH THE BALLOT ARGUMENT.

UM, AND THEN THE OTHER ITEM IS WHEN THE COUNCIL MOTIONED FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEE TO PREPARE THE ARGUMENT, THEY ALSO INCLUDED IN THAT MOTION THAT SHOULD A, UM, ARGUMENT AGAINST THE MEASURE BE SUBMITTED, THAT THAT SAME SUBCOMMITTEE WOULD PREPARE A REBUTTAL.

AND BECAUSE OF THE TIMELINES ASSOCIATED WITH WHEN THINGS HAVE TO BE SUBMITTED TO THE COUNTY, THAT REBUTTAL WILL NOT COME BACK BEFORE THE FULL, UM, COUNSEL, UM, IN ORDER TO MEET THOSE TIMELINES.

SO I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF TOUCH ON THOSE THINGS, UM, UNIQUE TO TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION.

SO THE ARGUMENT IN FAVOR OF THE MEASURE WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET.

UM, AND THAT'S REALLY THE, THE PURPOSE OF TONIGHT'S ITEM IS FOR ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT ARGUMENT AS DRAFTED.

UM, AND ULTIMATELY A VOTE TO THAT.

UM, ERIC, ANYTHING TO ADD? I GUESS, UH, WE'D ALSO INCLUDED THE NOVEMBER TIMELINE.

UM, SO THESE ARE THE DATES, AND THIS IS, UH, HAS BEEN IN YOUR PACKET PREVIOUSLY.

THESE ARE THOSE DATES WHERE THINGS ARE DUE TO THE COUNTY.

SO WE STRUCTURED OUR DATES FOR SUBMITTALS TO THE CITY CLERK ONE DAY PRIOR TO EACH OF THESE IN ORDER TO GIVE US TIME TO RECEIVE, SHOULD THERE BE, UM, UH, ANY, UH, OTHER ARGUMENTS AGAINST THE MEASURE TO RECEIVE THEM AND THEN SUBMIT THEM TO THE COUNTY AS WELL.

UM, BUT THESE ARE THE DEADLINES WE'RE WORKING WITH.

THAT'S RIGHT, HEATHER.

THANKS.

UM, FOR, FOR THAT OVERVIEW FOR THE COUNCIL AND COUNCIL, YOU CAN SEE FROM THE ELECTION TIMELINE, WE STILL HAVE SOME MORE IMPLEMENTATION STEPS.

I HAVE TO PROVIDE MY, UM, IMPARTIAL ANALYSIS, FOR EXAMPLE.

AND THE PURPOSE OF THAT IS TO COVER FOR THE VOTERS AND THE COMMUNITY WHAT THE EFFECT OF THE MEASURE OF APPROVED WOULD BE.

WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THAT QUITE A BIT.

SO, UM, THAT WILL BE BASED ON THE STAFF MATERIALS THAT ACCOMPANIED THE MEASURE TO THE COUNCIL.

AND ALSO, UM, IT'LL REFER TO THE PRIOR, UM, OR TAKE FROM THE PRIOR IMPARTIAL ANALYSIS.

UM, ANOTHER MECHANICAL BIT IS THAT, UM, I HAVE HER WITH ME THE TEXT OF, UM, THE ARGUMENT AS THE SUBCOMMITTEE PREPARED IT.

AND THIS IS ON THE SCREEN AND IT'S INCLUDED IN THE PACKAGE.

AND WE'VE GOT SIGNATURE, UM, LINES FOR IN THIS ORDER FOR THE MAYOR, FOR THE VICE MAYOR, AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBERS BARNACLE, UM, CATER THOMPSON HEALY NOW, AND .

UM, AND I HAVE THAT HERE SO THAT YOU CAN SIGN IT TONIGHT, BECAUSE TECHNICALLY IT'S A BROWN NECK VIOLATION FOR A QUORUM OF THE COUNCIL TO SIGN A DOCUMENT LIKE THAT AWAY FROM A PUBLIC MEETING.

UM, IF WE NEED TO CHANGE THE ORDER OF THE SIGNATURES FROM WHAT I JUST SAID, WE CAN NUMBER THE SIGNATURE LINES ACCORDINGLY TO DO THAT BECAUSE AS, AS HEATHER'S INDICATED, AND AS THE ELECTION CODE REQUIRES, UM, ONLY THE FIRST FIVE SIGNATURES ON THE DOCUMENT WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE BALLOT MATERIALS.

SO WE AWAIT YOUR DIRECTION ON THAT.

AND ALSO, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR THE COUNCIL NEEDS TO DISCUSS WHAT'S BEEN PUT FORWARD FOR YOU, UM, BY THE, UM, BY THE SUBCOMMITTEE YOU APPOINTED, NOW'S THE TIME FOR US TO DO THAT.

SO THANK YOU.

GOOD.

OKAY.

SO, UM, WE ARE GONNA DO WHAT THE COUNCIL DOES IS ASK ANY QUESTIONS.

IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE'LL LET THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, AGREE, AND THEN WE'LL BRING IT BACK FOR THE DIALOGUE OF THE TRICKY, UM, PARTS THAT THE STAFF WANTS FINAL ANSWERS TO.

SO, IS THERE ANYONE WITH ANY CONCERN OVER THE TEXT OF THE QUE? THE QUESTION HERE WOULD COUNT VICE MAYOR SCH SHRIMPS, JUST IN THE LAST SENTENCE.

SO IT'S ON THE SCREEN THERE, YOU HAVE, AND ASSURES THAT THAT TAXPAYER, DO WE WANT TWO? THAT'S SHOULD JUST BE ONE THAT, OR TWO THAT'S MM-HMM.

IT IS AT THE END OF THE LINE AT THE BOTTOM, UH, SECOND FOR THE BOTTOM ON THE SCREEN.

AND ASSURES THAT THAT TAXPAYER, IT'S THE MIDDLE P YEAH, THAT IS THE .

IT'S THE MIDDLE PARAGRAPH.

IT'S FOURTH

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PARAGRAPH, FOURTH PARAGRAPH.

THE, THE, THAT'S A GOOD CATCH.

SO WE CAN STRIKE THAT TO CORRECT THAT.

YES.

EX YES.

STRIKE ONE OF THE DOTS.

THANK YOU, GREG.

CATCH, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S YEARS OF HIGH SCHOOL TALKING THERE, , UM, AND COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLE.

YEAH.

UM, I HAVE ONE POTENTIAL EDIT TO INTERNET TO SUGGEST.

IT SAYS, CONVERSELY, A NO VOTE IS AN EXPRESSION OF SPRAWL OF SUPPORT FOR SPRAWL AT EVERY EDGE OF OUR CITY.

AND IT MIGHT BE MORE ACCURATE TO SAY AT ANY EDGE OF OUR CITY.

UM, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I'M, I'M GOOD WITH IT AND AGREE THAT WE, WE ONLY NEED ONE THAT IN THERE.

THANKS.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, SO, UM, I GUESS THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN SORT OUT HERE RIGHT NOW.

DO WE HAVE A GRAMMATICAL CORRECTNESS ON, UH, EVERY, ALL, ANY, AND IF THERE'S NOT A GRAMMATICAL ALL, THEN THE SUGGESTION WAS ANY, RIGHT? SO IS THE COUNCIL OKAY WITH THAT WORD SUBSTITUTION? SEEING NO MAJOR DISSENTING, WE'RE, UH, LOOKING TO CHANGE THAT SINGLE WORD AS WELL.

YOU WITH US? UM, RIGHT THERE.

GOOD.

IS THERE, SO THERE'S CONSENSUS TO CHANGE THE EVERY TO ANY CORRECT.

OKAY.

AND LET'S OPEN PUBLIC COMMENT.

WOULD YOU, UH, CITY CLERK, WOULD YOU PLEASE, UH, DO THE HONORS? WE DID RECEIVE ONE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.

UM, OH, NO, I'M SORRY.

THAT'S THE NEXT ITEM.

WE DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM, BUT I WILL READ THE INSTRUCTIONS.

UH, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING IN PERSON SHOULD BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARDS TO THE CLERK'S DESK IF THEY HAVE NOT ALREADY DONE SO.

SPEAKERS ARE REMINDED TO BE RESPECTFUL IN THEIR COMMENTS.

AND THAT THIS MEETING IS BEING TRANSLATED.

PLEASE PAUSE BETWEEN SENTENCES FOR TRANSLATION.

THE TIMER BEHIND THE DIES WILL BE RESET FOR EACH SPEAKER.

LOOKS LIKE WE MIGHT HAVE ONE CARD.

NOT ON THIS ITEM.

SORRY, , AND SEEING NO ONE COMING FORWARD, UM, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS, AND IT OCCURS TO ME, I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION OF STAFF.

IT'S PROBABLY RATHER STRAIGHTFORWARD, BUT JUST ONE MORE QUESTION.

THE REBUTTAL, IS IT SIGNED? AND IF SO, IS IT SIGNED BY THE AD HOC WHO WRITES IT WITH THREE SIGNATURES? THAT'S HOW WE WOULD HAVE TO DO THAT.

OKAY.

YES.

OKAY, BECAUSE THAT GOES TO MY SECOND POINT, BRINGING IT BACK TO COUNSEL.

I'D LIKE TO INVITE A SORT OF OBVIOUS WAY OF SORTING WHO THE FIVE ARE AND WHATNOT.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST WE SIGN ALPHABETICALLY.

AND THE LAST TWO, UM, SIGNERS, ALPHABETICALLY DON'T, UM, DON'T APPEAR ON THE BALLOT.

AND I'M ASKING, I'D LIKE TO ASK OSA KAY.

AND NOW OUR LAST TWO ON HERE, IF THAT WOULD BE AN ACCEPTABLE SOLUTION SINCE THE, THE, YOU KNOW, ALPHABETICALLY, THE VICE MAYOR WOULD BE AT THE TOP.

BUT ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT SOLUTION? IT'S FINE WITH ME.

SO, UM, AND UNLESS THERE'S AN OBJECTION BY ANYONE ELSE, THAT STICKY ISSUE IS, AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR GRACIOUSNESS.

AND WHAT OTHER QUESTIONS DO WE NEED TO SORT FOR STAFF? I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION AND, UM, LET'S GO TO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER KATE OR THOMPSON.

SO IF WE NEED A REBUTTAL, UM, THE THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD SIGN THAT.

WOULD WE BE ABLE TO, TO LOOK AT THAT? NOT TO MAKE CHANGES, BUT TO, OR WOULD THAT END UP BEING A BROWN ACT VIOLATION? NO, THERE WON'T BE TIME, UNFORTUNATELY.

OKAY.

THAT'S FINE.

THANKS.

COUNCIL MEMBER HEALEY.

YEAH, I WAS JUST GONNA TELL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO WERE NOT ON THIS LITTLE SUBCOMMITTEE THAT, UM, I WAS ABLE TO FIND THE 2010 BALLOT ARGUMENT, AND, UM, THAT FORMED PART OF THE BASIS FOR WHAT YOU SEE NOW, BUT, UM, THERE WAS NO REBUTTAL OR, OR THERE WAS NO ANTI ARGUMENT SUBMITTED IN 2010.

SO THERE WAS NO NEED FOR A REBUTTAL ARGUMENT.

AND QUITE FRANKLY, I'D BE SURPRISED TO SEE ONE THIS TIME.

AND I DID WANNA RECOGNIZE AND THANK THE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS ON THE AD HOC COMMITTEE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER HEALY, COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLE MYSELF.

UM, SO, UM, THAT GETS US TO, UM, UM, A MOTION AT THIS POINT.

I THINK WE'RE CONSENSUS.

OH, SURE.

YOU WANNA ALL MOVE THAT? YES.

SO I'LL MOVE THAT.

AND WE HAVE A MOTION FROM CATER THOMPSON, A SECOND AND A SECOND FROM HEALY.

AND, UM, A ROLL CALL VOTE.

UM, HOLD ONE SECOND, PLEASE.

CAN I, I JUST WANNA CLARIFY ONE THING AND I'M, I'M, I'M, THIS IS PROBABLY A DUMB QUESTION, BUT, UH, OR MAYBE I MISHEARD, BUT I THOUGHT THE COUNCIL WAS GOING TO USE ALPHABETICAL ORDER TO DETERMINE THE SEQUENCE OF THE MAYOR, VICE MAYOR FOLLOWING ALPHABETICAL.

OH, I, OH, THAT, OKAY.

GOT IT.

THANK YOU.

WHICH IS WHAT WE HAVE.

HAVE IT.

OKAY, GOOD.

THANKS.

UM, BECAUSE I'M THINKING BECAUSE WE HAVE THOSE CORRECTIONS, UM, EVEN THOUGH THE SIGNATURE ORDER DOESN'T CHANGE, I THINK WHAT

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WE'LL DO IS MAKE THOSE CORRECTIONS SO YOU DON'T HAVE MY STUPID INTERLINEATED VERSION.

AND THEN, UM, IN THE BACKGROUND, WHILE WE CONTINUE THE MEETING BUSINESS, WE'LL GET THAT READY AND BRING IT UP SO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN SIGN IT BEFORE WE ADJOURN.

IS THAT OKAY? THAT'D BE FABULOUS.

MR. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER CATER THOMPSON.

UM, THERE'S ANOTHER CORRECTION TO TAKE THE HYPHEN OUTTA MY NAME.

THANK YOU.

SURE.

WE'LL DO THAT TOO.

THANKS.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

LEGALLY.

AND WE'RE GOOD.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND WE, WE LIKE A ROLL CALL.

VOTE PLEASE.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

BARNACLE.

AYE.

CATER THOMPSON? YES.

KEELEY, YES.

NOW YES.

POST.

OKAY.

YES.

SHRIMPS? YES.

MCDONALD? YES.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION, AND THANK YOU AGAIN TO THE AD HOC.

AND, UM, THAT BRINGS US TO OUR, UH, ITEM NUMBER 10 FOR THE EVENING, UH, RESOLUTION, AFFIRMING SUPPORT OF FARMS, RANCHES, AND AGRICULTURAL OPERATIONS AND BUSINESSES IN PETALUMA AND SONOMA COUNTY, AND OPPOSING MEASURE J.

AND, UH, TO HELP US, UH, THROUGH THIS ITEM, WE HAVE PATRICK CARTER, OUR ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER AND OUR CITY ATTORNEY DANLEY, WHO WILL LEAD OFF PATRICK CARTER.

I WILL MAYOR.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

COUNCIL MEMBERS, UM, AS MENTIONED, THIS IS A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, RELATED TO MEASURE J, SPECIFICALLY IN OPPOSITION TO THAT BALLOT MEASURE.

AND THEN THE SUPPORT OF OUR, UM, FARMS, RANCHES, AND AGRICULTURAL OPERATIONS IN BUSINESSES IN PETALUMA AND SONOMA COUNTY.

SO, MEASURE JA LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, AND A LOT OF THIS IS TAKEN DIRECTLY FROM THE SUMMARY PREPARED BY COUNTY COUNCIL.

UM, MEASURE J IS A, A BALLOT MEASURE THAT WOULD BE ON THE NOVEMBER 5TH, 2024 GENERAL ELECTION.

UM, IF ADOPTED BY VOTERS, IT WOULD AMEND THE OMA COUNTY CODE TO PHASE OUT EXISTING AND PROHIBIT FUTURE CONCENTRATED ANIMAL FEEDING OPERATIONS, ALSO KNOWN AS CAFOS IN ALL ZONING DISTRICTS IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS OF THE COUNTY OUTSIDE THE COASTAL ZONE.

SO, AGAIN, UH, IMPORTANT DISTINCTION THERE IS THAT IT'S ONLY IN UNINCORPORATED COUNTIES.

IT'S NOT WITHIN CITY LIMITS OF ANY OF THE INCORPORATED CITIES IN SONOMA COUNTY.

BUT I'LL ELABORATE ON, UM, SHORTLY ON WHY THAT'S IMPORTANT THAT, UH, THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING OPPOSITION WITH THIS CITY COUNCIL.

EXISTING OPERATIONS AS CAPOS, UM, WOULD HAVE THREE YEARS TO PHASE OUT, UM, OF THEIR OPERATIONS, OR ELSE THEY'D BE IN VIOLATION OF THAT, UM, THAT STATUTE AND FACE PENALTIES UP TO $10,000 PER DAY.

SO, UM, THE ANIMALS COVERED UNDER THE CAHO REGULATIONS WOULD INCLUDE CATTLE, COW, CALF, PEARS, MATURE DAIRY, CATTLE, DEAL CALVES, SWINE HORSES, SHEEP OR LAMBS, TURKEYS, CHICKENS, LAYING HENS OF BROILERS AND DUCKS.

UM, CAFOS WOULD BE CATEGORIZED AS LARGE, MEDIUM, OR SMALL, DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER AND TYPE OF CONFINED ANIMALS AND OTHER FACTORS SUCH AS WASTE DISPOSAL SYSTEMS. A SMALL CAHO IS, YOU KNOW, SMALLER THAN A MEDIUM, BUT, UM, HAS A, A LOWER, UM, WASTE POLLUTION, UM, FACTOR AS DETERMINED BY THE PER MAIN AGENCIES.

UM, OPERATIONS WOULD BE CONSIDERED CAFOS, UM, IF THE ANIMALS WERE CONFINED OR, UM, AND FED AND MAINTAINED FOR A TOTAL OF 45 DAYS OR MORE IN ANY 12 MONTH PERIOD WHEN CROPS, VEGETATION, FORAGE GROWTH OR POST HARVEST RESIDUES ARE NOT SUSTAINED IN THE NORMAL GROWING SEASON OVER ANY PORTION OF THE LOT OR FACILITY.

UM, AND THE DISTINCTION THAT WE MADE WHEN WE WERE RESEARCHING THIS, UM, THAT INCLUDES ANIMALS THAT WERE JUST BROUGHT IN OVER THE WINTER WHEN HAVING THEM OUT IN THE FIELD WOULD BE, UM, DANGEROUS, UM, FOR THE FIELD, UM, AND, AND AFFECT THE ANIMALS AND THE OPERATION.

SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY JUST CONFINEMENT FOR CONFINEMENT SAKE, IT'S EVEN CONFINEMENT FOR THE PROTECTION OF THE ANIMALS.

UM, SOME MORE BACKGROUND INFORMATION.

UM, THIS IS FROM THE MEASURE J PROPONENTS WEBSITE.

IT LISTS 21 SITES IN SONOMA COUNTY, UM, THAT WOULD BE, UM,

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PROHIBITED FROM OPERATION UNDER MEASURE J IF PASSED.

AND THAT'S 15 POULTRY FARMS AND SIX DAIRIES.

AND A LOT OF THOSE OCCUR IN THE SOUTH COUNTY IN THE VICINITY OF PETALUMA.

THERE ARE A VARIETY IN THE STAFF PORT, A VARIETY OF, UM, DIFFERENT COUNTY, UM, DEPARTMENTS AND, UM, AGENCIES THAT HAVE WEIGHED IN ON THE MATTER, UM, PROVIDING INFORMATION ON, ON THEIR EXPECTED IMPACT OF, UM, OF MEASURE J, INCLUDING THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURAL WEIGHTS AND MEASURES.

UM, TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE, UM, FINANCIAL IMPACTS, THE SONOMA COUNTY AGRICULTURAL PRESERVATION AND OPEN SPACE DISTRICT, TALKING ABOUT HOW THAT WOULD IMPACT THE AGRICULTURAL PORTION OF THEIR MISSION.

THE SONOMA CA, SONOMA COUNTY ASSESSOR'S OFFICE.

UM, TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE RELATIONSHIP WITH, UM, THE WILLIAMSON ACT AND HOW SOME OF THESE OPERATIONS, IF THEY WERE TO SHUT DOWN, WOULD AFFECT WILLIAMSON ACT CONTRACTS, WHICH TAKE UP TO 10 YEARS TO, UM, GET OUT.

UM, SO THERE'S A, A THREE YEAR PHASE OUT PERIOD, BUT THEN THERE'S A 10 YEAR PERIOD FOR GETTING OUTTA THE WILLIAMSON ACT, AND THERE'S SOME FINANCIAL IMPACTS RELATED TO THAT IF THERE'S NOT OTHER AGRICULTURAL OPERATIONS HAPPENING ON THAT SITE.

ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BOARD, UM, REALLY GETS INTO THE, UM, THE AGRICULTURAL PRODUCTS AND, AND WHAT THE COSTS AND, AND THE LOSS OF THOSE, UM, NOT HAVING THOSE IN THE COUNTY WOULD, WOULD HAVE.

AND THAT'S ALL DETAILED IN, IN THE REPORT.

UM, AND SO GETTING BACK TO THAT POINT I MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT HOW THIS DOESN'T NECESSARILY AFFECT, UM, CAFOS WITHIN THE CITY OF PETALUMA.

THE CITY IS, UH, IT HAS A, A HISTORY STEEPED IN AGRICULTURE.

UM, IT CAN BE SEEN THROUGHOUT THE CITY FROM THE TALL GRAIN ELEVATORS IN DOWNTOWN POPULAR EVENTS LIKE BUTTER AND EGGS DAY PARADE, AND EVEN THE CITY SEAL.

UM, IT ALL POINTS BACK TO THE, THE RICH HISTORY OF AGRICULTURAL IN OUR CITY.

UM, AND AGAIN, I I MENTIONED THAT THERE'S, UM, WHILE IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY AFFECT CA FLOWS IN PETALUMA, THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER BUSINESSES, UM, WITHIN THE CITY OF PETALUMA THAT SUPPORT THOSE, UM, THOSE FARMS, UH, WHICH WOULD DEFINITELY BE AFFECTED IF THEY WERE NO LONGER IN OPERATION.

SO WITH THAT BACKGROUND, UM, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE IMPORTANCE OF AGRICULTURE IN, IN PLUMA PAST, PRESENT, AND PRESENT, THE RESOLUTION ATTACHED, UM, TO THIS ITEM FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER IS OPPOSITION TO MEASURE J.

AND IT'S RECOMMENDED TO PROTECT THE FUTURE AGRICULTURE IN PETALUMA AND SONOMA COUNTY AND TO SUPPORT PETALUMA'S AND THE COUNTY'S FARMS RANCHES, AGRICULTURAL OPERATIONS AND SUPPORT BUSINESSES, WHICH CONTRIBUTE TO OUR COMMUNITY'S HISTORY, CULTURE, ECONOMY, JOB MARKET, SELF-SUFFICIENCY, AND RESILIENCY.

AND THAT CONCLUDES THE STAFF REPORT.

AND, UH, HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS THAT THE COUNCIL MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

GREAT REPORT.

UM, GREAT WORK PRODUCT IN GENERAL, AND I'D LIKE TO BRING IT TO COUNCIL.

WE HAVE A, A QUESTIONS FOR ON THIS, AND SO LET'S STAY FOCUSED ON THE QUESTION SIDE OF IT.

DOES ANYONE HAVE A QUESTION ON, UH, THE PRESENTATION HERE THIS EVENING? VICE MAYOR SCHIBS? UM, JUST SO WE, YOU IDENTIFIED 15 POULTRY AND SIX DAIRIES.

UM, CAN YOU TELL US WHAT THE SIZE AND SHAPE OF THOSE ARE AND WHERE THEY'RE, HOW CLOSE THEY ARE TO PETALUMA IF, UH, THERE THERE IS A MAP? UM, IT'S IN ONE OF THE LINKS PROVIDED ON THERE.

UM, THOSE, THOSE WERE THE LIST OF, UH, OPERATIONS THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED.

SO THOSE ARE ALL EITHER MEDIUM OR LARGE CAFOS.

UM, I DON'T HAVE SPECIFICS ABOUT WHAT THOSE BUSINESSES ARE.

UM, UM, BUT LEMME SEE IF I CAN, I, I CAN ADD A LITTLE BIT.

SO, UM, YES, THE, UM, THE EXHIBIT TO THE DRAFT RESOLUTION BEFORE THE COUNCIL TONIGHT LISTS THE REFERENCES BASED ON WHICH THE RECITALS WERE PREPARED.

AND ONE OF THOSE, IN FACT, THE LAST ONE ON THE LIST IS THE, UM, MAP THAT IS ON THE WEBSITE OF THE PROPONENTS OF THE MEASURE, UM, IF MEMORY SERVES CORRECTLY.

AND I THINK IT DOES, UM, MOST OF THE, OF THE, UM, FARMS THAT ARE LISTED, UM, FOR BEING, UM, UM, UM, UM, THAT ARE TARGETED FOR CLOSURE UNDER THE MEASURE, UM, UH, ACTUALLY ARE IN THE ENVIRONMENT AROUND PETALUMA.

THERE'S ONE UP BY WINDSOR, THERE'S ONE UP BY SANTA ROSA.

THERE'S A COUPLE THAT ARE SORT OF CLOSER TO NAPA COUNTY, BUT STILL WITHIN SONOMA

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COUNTY.

BUT REALLY THEY'RE MOSTLY CLUSTERED IN SOUTH COUNTY.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT REALLY EASILY FROM LOOKING AT THE, AT THE MAP BECAUSE THE LOCATIONS ARE SUPERIMPOSED ON, ON, ON THE, ON THE, ON THE COUNTY.

THE OTHER THING I WOULD NOTE IS THERE IS SOME DISPUTE ABOUT HOW GREAT THE SCOPE OF THE MEASURE WOULD BE.

THE PROPONENTS, UM, APPEAR TO INDICATE THAT IT WOULD BE THOSE, THOSE THOSE FARMS, UM, IDENTIFIED ON THE MAP THERE.

IT APPEARS THAT SOME OF THE COUNTY STAFF DISAGREE AND THINK THERE MAY BE, UM, GREATER IMPACT THAT, THAT MORE, UM, FARMERS MAY BE POTENTIALLY AFFECTED.

BUT THAT'S, THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT THE, UM, THE PROPONENTS BELIEVE WOULD BE, WOULD REQUIRE BE REQUIRED TO SHUT DOWN WITHIN THE THREE YEAR PERIOD.

SO HAPPY TO ANSWER IF THERE ARE MORE QUESTIONS.

THANKS.

OKAY.

AND ON THE, UM, BESIDES THE, THE VOLUME AND THE NUMBER THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH HERE, UM, DO WE HAVE AN ESTIMATE? I KNOW ON THE COUNTYWIDE AREA THAT IT'S A HUGE IMPACT ON THE COUNTYWIDE, UH, UH, BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT PETALUMA SERVES A LOT OF THESE, THIS INDUSTRY WITH A LOT OF OUR BUSINESSES.

DO WE HAVE AN ECONOMIC IMPACT EVALUATION OF, OF THE COST TO OUR CITY BUSINESSES, UM, THAT WOULD SUFFER NOT NOT SEPARATELY FROM THE, THE FINANCIAL IMPACT INFORMATION THAT WE'VE INCLUDED IN THIS AGENDA ITEM.

AND THAT REALLY IS, IS IS BASED ON INFORMATION WE OBTAINED FROM THE COUNTY MATERIALS AND ALSO SOME OF THE OTHER REFERENCES THAT ARE LISTED IN THE EXHIBIT.

UM, IT'S A PRETTY, THERE, THERE'S SOME INFERENCES YOU CAN DRAW.

ONE IS THAT, UM, AS I ALREADY MENTIONED IT, THE, THE TARGETED FARMS REALLY ARE MOSTLY IN THE PETAL OF VICINITY TWO, THE, THE, UM, SUPPORT INDUSTRIES ARE, ARE, UM, NOT NECESSARILY LIMITED TO PETALUMA, BUT CERTAINLY INCLUDE PETALUMA IF YOU THINK OF, OF OF OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES, UM, THAT ARE RELATED TO, UM, SUPPORTING THE AG INDUSTRY.

UM, BUT IT'S A PRETTY IN INTEGRATED KIND OF, UM, SECTOR OF THE ECONOMY.

SO, UM, AND YOU KNOW, THE, THE BUSINESSES CATERING PROVIDING AGRICULTURAL SUPPORT AND ARE HAPPY TO, YOU KNOW, TO, TO SELL TO ANY OF THE, ANY OF THE FARMS IN SONOMA COUNTY AND PRESUMABLY BEYOND.

SO, UH, SO I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE'RE ABLE TO SLICE THAT INFORMATION THAT FINE.

WE CERTAINLY ARE, DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

UM, IN, IN IN WHAT WAS PREPARED FOR THE, FOR THE COUNCIL TONIGHT.

I, I DON'T KNOW THAT THE COUNTY DOES EITHER.

I WOULD NOTE TO THAT.

UM, AND THE COUNTY MATERIALS ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE, THERE IS MORE DETAILED INFORMATION ABOUT THE DAIRY INDUSTRY THAN THERE IS ABOUT THE POULTRY INDUSTRY.

'CAUSE THAT'S THE INFORMATION THAT WE'RE ABLE TO ACCESS, UM, FROM THE COUNTY SOURCES AND FROM OUR OWN RESEARCH.

SO, AND I, I'VE SHARED ON THE SCREEN, UM, THE GRAPHICAL REPRESENTATION OF THE AFFECTED OPERATIONS, RIGHT? I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET TO THE POINT OF HOW MUCH DAMAGE THERE WOULD BE TO OUR LOCAL ECONOMY COMPARED TO THE COUNTY ECONOMY COMPARED TO OTHER BUSINESS SECTORS HERE IN THE CITY.

AND I'M GONNA GO INTO THE SUSPICION, 'CAUSE I'VE, I'VE BEEN TO THE, SOME OF THE FARMS AND, UH, SOME OF THE ACTIONS IN THOSE BUSINESSES THAT ARE HERE IN TOWN.

AND I WOULD JUST THROW OUT THERE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS A YEAR OF BUSINESS, UH, WOULD BE HUGELY IMPACTED HERE IN PETALUMA.

UM, AND, UH, A NUMBER OF BUSINESSES, HUGE NUMBER OVER A HUNDRED BUSINESSES MIGHT BE AFFECTED AS WELL AS, AS JUST THE RANCHES THEMSELVES.

SO I JUST WANNA, UH, GET, DO WE HAVE ANY INFORMATION THAT SHOWS YOU HOW BIG THIS IMPACT IS? 'CAUSE I THINK IT'S AS BIGGER THAN WHAT'S BEING SAID ANYWHERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER RI I WOULD JUST ADD THAT, UM, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT MEDIUM SIZED CAFOS AND WHO IT'S GOING TO AFFECT, THE SPINOFF OF NOT HAVING THOSE AG SUPPORTED BUSINESSES WILL PUT EVEN THE SMALLEST OPERATIONS OUT OF BUSINESS BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T HAVE THAT SUPPORT.

SO IT IS, I MEASURABLE, YEAH, I'M TRYING TO GET THE WHOLE SECTOR WOULD COLLAPSE HERE LOCALLY AND, UM, THE, THE ECONOMY, WE ARE STILL AN AGRICULTURAL BASED ECONOMY HERE.

UH, EVEN THOUGH FOLKS DON'T, DON'T KNOW THAT OR RECOGNIZE IT AS MUCH.

WE ARE FINANCIALLY DEPENDENT ON AGRICULTURAL BUSINESSES HERE, NOT ONLY FINANCIALLY, BUT I WOULD ARGUE THAT AG PROVIDES OUR GREEN BELTS IN OUR COUNTY, AND THAT'S A WAY OF LIFE THAT, THAT WE TAKE FOR GRANTED SOMETIMES HERE IN SONOMA COUNTY.

BUT IT'S BECAUSE OF OUR AG OPERATIONS THAT WE HAVE THOSE GREEN BELTS, SO.

RIGHT.

AND, AND I WOULD ADD TOO, I MEAN, IF YOU, UH, IF YOU LOOK AT, LET'S SEE, IT'S RECITAL 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 IN THE RESOLUTION, THE, THE, THE SIZE OF THE AG SECTOR IN THE COUNTY IS, IT'S, IT'S IN THE HUNDREDS

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OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

AND THE TARGETED FARMS FOR CLOSURE IN THE MEASURE, UM, ARE THE LARGER, UM, UM, FARMS. AND THEY'RE CLUSTERED AS WE JUST SAW, AS I SAID.

UM, AND, AND, BUT YOU COULD SEE FROM THE GRAPHIC PAT PATRICK SHARED, THEY'RE CLUSTERED AROUND PETALUMA.

SO, SO IT'S PROBABLY AN UNDERSTATEMENT TO SAY IT'S IN THE TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

IT'S PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, APPROACHING, YOU KNOW, IN THE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS, CERTAINLY THE AG SECTOR AS A WHOLE, IT'S, I MEAN, IF YOU JUST ADD UP THE NUMBERS THAT ARE IN THAT RECITAL, IF, IF IT WOULD HELP.

UM, AND, AND ONE OF THE ATTACHMENTS, I INCLUDED THE REPORT FROM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BOARD, WHICH REALLY GOT INTO THE, THE NUMBERS OF THIS, UM, THE GRAPHIC THAT'S BEING SHOWN RIGHT THERE IS JUST, IT'S KIND OF GETTING AT THAT SUPPLY CHAIN IMPACT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD THINK THAT FARM SUPPLY, UM, PROVIDERS WOULD BE AFFECTED BY IT, BUT IT ALSO GOES INTO VETERINARIAN SERVICES AND AUTOMOTIVE SALES AND CONSTRUCTION AND DAIRY PROCESSING.

THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER BUSINESSES THAT YOU MIGHT NOT THINK WOULD BE AFFECTED, UM, THAT THEY DID THE ANALYSIS ON THAT WOULD BE INFECTED, UH, AFFECTED BY THIS.

AND THEN TO JUST SCROLL DOWN SLIGHTLY, IT, I KNOW THESE ARE TINY NUMBERS AND IT'S HARD TO SHOW IT.

THEY DO IT BY DISTRICT.

SO WE'RE IN THE SECOND DISTRICT HERE, SO YOU CAN SEE THE, UM, LARGE, MEDIUM, SMALL, AND IT HAS THE NUMBER OF DIFFERENT BUSINESSES AND THEIR, THEIR, UM, YOU KNOW, THE TYPE OF ANIMAL AND THE ESTIMATED PRODUCTION VALUE OF THAT.

IT DOESN'T GO INTO THE, YOU KNOW, THE SUPPORT BUSINESSES IN, IN THIS ONE, BUT IT KIND OF GIVES YOU A MAGNITUDE OF SCALE FOR BOTH THE, THE LAND ACREAGE AND, UM, THE NUMBER OF BUSINESSES AND THE MONETARY VALUE OF, OF THAT.

AND YOU CAN SEE IT'S IN HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THERE.

RIGHT.

AND, AND THANK YOU.

THE ECONOMIC OUTPUT OF THE AG SECTOR IS OBVIOUSLY NOT ENTIRELY THREATENED BY THE MEASURE.

BUT AGAIN, LOOKING BACK AT THAT, THAT RECITAL, IT LISTS 418 MILLION IN ANNUAL PRODUCTIVITY FOR LIVESTOCK AND POULTRY ALONE, 80 MILLION IN LABOR INCOME, THAT'S ALMOST HALF A BILLION DOLLARS ANNUALLY IN JUST THAT PART OF THE AG SECTOR.

SO, UM, AND THAT'S JUST THE DIRECT AG, THAT'S NOT THE AG SUPPORT, SO, RIGHT.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS, IT'S A VERY SUBSTANTIAL PART OF THE COUNTY ECONOMY.

AND ONE THING I DID HEAR WHEN I WAS TOURING THE, UH, THE FARMS, I WAS PART OF, PART OF THE LEADERSHIP, UM, DAY THAT WE HAD ON THE FARMS, UM, THAT IF THE LARGER FARMS AND OPERATIONS ARE KICKED OUT OF BUSINESS, THAT ALL THE SUPPORTING INDUSTRIES WOULD COLLAPSE, WOULD NOT HAVE ENOUGH FINANCIAL, UH, WHEREWITHAL TO MAINTAIN THE SMALL FARMS. SO OUR, SO I THINK IS THAT, WOULD YOU AGREE THAT THAT STATEMENT WOULD BE TRUE? YEAH, HE JUST SAID IT.

I HAVE TO THINK SO.

ALL BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE, UM, THOSE SUPPORT BUSINESS EXIST TO SERVE THAT SECTOR.

AND IF THE SECTOR, IF THERE'S, IF THERE'S LESS OF A SECTOR TO SERVE, THERE'S LESS OF AN INCENTIVE OR VIABILITY FOR THOSE SUPPORT BUSINESSES.

ALSO, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE SAW IN OUR HISTORIC RESEARCH IS THAT, UM, IT WAS AFTER WORLD WAR II THAT THE LOCAL AGRICULTURE STARTED TO CONCENTRATE INTO LARGER FARM ENTERPRISES.

AND THAT, UM, THAT'S HOW THAT PART OF OUR ECONOMY ADAPTED TO STAY VIABLE.

AND SO IT, IT SEEMS THAT, UM, IT'S REASONABLE TO, TO INFER FROM THAT, THAT THE SCALE OF THE ENTERPRISES IS LINKED TO THE VIABILITY OF THE SECTOR.

UM, OTHERWISE THE, THE 'CAUSE BECAUSE IT WAS THE CASE THAT THEY WERE EARLIER, IT WAS SMALLER OPERATIONS, A FEW LARGE ONES, BUT ALSO A LOT OF SMALLER FAMILY ONES.

UM, BUT, BUT THAT'S NOT HOW THAT SECTOR OF OUR ECONOMY HAS EVOLVED AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S USUALLY THE CASE.

GREAT POINT TO BE MADE THERE.

APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER CATER THOMPSON.

THIS IS NOT REALLY QUESTIONS BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE I HAVE MOST OF MY QUESTIONS ANSWERED 'CAUSE I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING THIS.

SO THIS IS, LET'S DO, DO YOU WANNA SAVE IT FOR OUR COMMENT, GREG? WELL, NO, THIS IS, THERE'S 81 1 BUSINESSES SUPPORT BUSINESSES.

ALRIGHT.

TAKE AWAY THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED IN THIS, IN THE COUNTY.

'CAUSE I HAVE A LIST.

GOOD.

SO, AND IT ENDED UP BEING ABOUT 81 AND I JUST, I'M GONNA COMMENT THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT, UM, THE URBAN GROWTH BOUNDARY.

AND THE ONE THING THAT WE ALL LOVE ABOUT SONOMA COUNTY IS WE, WE, WHEN WE COME BETWEEN PETALUMA AND NOVATO, WE SEE GREENERY.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE SEE IN BETWEEN

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TATI AND, YOU KNOW, PETALUMA, TATI, AND THEN DE SANTA ROSA.

WE'RE NOT LIKE THE EAST BAY WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE IN SUNNYVALE OR WHAT CITY YOU'RE IN BECAUSE IT'S JUST A SIGN THAT SAYS IT.

AND SO I THINK THERE'S JUST A LOT OF VALUE, UM, TO SUPPORTING OUR AG BECAUSE OF, UM, WHAT WE REALLY WANT IN THIS COUNTY.

WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE SEE GREENERY INSTEAD OF SEEING JUST HOUSING, HOUSING, BUSINESS AND BUSINESSES AND BUILDING.

THANK YOU.

AND WITH THAT, WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

UH, WILL YOU HELP US WITH THAT, OUR CITY CLERK? ABSOLUTELY.

WE DID RECEIVE ONE PUBLIC COMMENT AHEAD OF TIME, WHICH IS POSTED TO THE WEBSITE.

UH, WE DO HAVE A FEW CARDS, BUT I'LL READ THE INSTRUCTIONS.

MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING IN PERSON SHOULD BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARDS TO THE CLERK'S DESK IF THEY HAVE NOT ALREADY DONE SO.

SPEAKERS ARE REMINDED TO BE RESPECTFUL IN THEIR COMMENTS AND THAT THIS MEETING IS BEING TRANSLATED.

PLEASE PAUSE BETWEEN SENTENCES FOR TRANSLATION.

THE TIMER BEHIND THE WILL BE RESET FOR EACH SPEAKER.

THANK YOU.

AND, UH, TONIGHT, UH, UH, FIRST SPEAKER WILL BE KATHY RESH TO BE FOLLOWED BY BRENT NEWELL.

HI, I AM, UH, KATHY RESH.

OUR FAMILY FARM IS ONE OF THE DAIRY FARMS THAT WOULD BE SHUT DOWN DUE TO THIS MEASURE.

UM, WE'RE PETALUMA 9 4 9 5 2.

APPRECIATE ALL OF THE COMMENTS THAT YOU HAVE MADE SO FAR.

UM, AS TO PEGGY'S COMMENT, I WANTED TO ALSO MENTION NOT ONLY ARE OUR DAIRIES AND, UH, GRAZING ANIMALS FOR PROVIDING A GREEN BELT, BUT THE FAMILY FARMS ARE PAYING PROPERTY TAXES ON THAT GREEN BELT, .

AND, UM, OUR FAMILY FARM HAS BEEN THERE SINCE, UH, 1905.

WE'RE NOT A FACTORY FARM.

WE ARE ACTUALLY TWO DAIRIES.

AND SO WHEN THEY SAY SIX WOULD BE SHUT DOWN, UM, WE'RE TWO OF THOSE, OUR COWS GRAZE ON OVER 2,500 ACRES.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE ACCUSATIONS THAT ARE BEING MADE TOWARDS US DAIRIES THAT WE'RE FACTORY FARMS ARE, UM, ABSOLUTELY NOT APPLICABLE TO THE WAY THAT WE FARM.

UM, I WAS THE, MY HUSBAND AND I WERE THEN THE SIERRA CLUB ENVIRONMENTALISTS OF THE YEAR, UM, ONE YEAR.

SO WE CONTINUED TO DO OUR ENVIRONMENTAL WORK, UM, OUR DAIRY WORK.

AND THE, ONE OF THE GREATEST CONCERNS FOR ME AT THIS POINT IS NOT JUST THE LOSS OF OUR FAMILY FARM, BUT OUR EMPLOYEES.

OUR, WE WOULD PROBABLY LOSE EIGHT EMPLOYEES OR MORE, AND SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN WITH US FOR 20 YEARS.

THEIR KIDS ARE GOING TO SCHOOL IN OUR AREA AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT, THEY'RE NOT JUST NUMBERS OR A FRACTION OF, OF THE WORKFORCE.

UM, THEY NOT ONLY WOULD LOSE THEIR HOUSING, BUT REALLY IT'S THEIR HOMES.

SO FOR THEM TO BE DISPLACED, UM, IS ALSO A HUGE IMPACT.

UM, WE ALL DO SHOP IN PETALUMA.

WE'RE VERY LOYAL TO PETALUMA AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR LOYALTY IN RETURN.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

AND, UM, WE'RE SETTING UP THE CLOCK HERE EVEN AS WE GO.

AND OUR NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE BRENT NEWELL TO BE FOLLOWED BY OSCAR ERIC ALLEN.

UH, MR. MAYOR, UH, AND, UH, LET'S GIVE IT ONE SECOND TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THE CLERK'S MAGIC TO HAPPEN HERE.

GREAT.

MR. MAYOR, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS, MY NAME IS BRENT NEWELL.

I AM A ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE ATTORNEY AND I AM SPEAKING IN, UH, SUPPORT OF YOUR RESOLUTION AND IN OPPOSITION TO MEASURE J.

UM, I'VE WORKED ON ISSUES RELATED TO INDUSTRIAL ANIMAL AGRICULTURE FOR MY CAREER.

OF THE 24 YEARS I'VE BEEN PRACTICING LAW.

AND BASED ON THAT, YOU KNOW, A MEASURE THAT TARGETS PASTURE-BASED DAIRY FARMS IN THIS COUNTY, UH, IS NOT TARGETING FACTORY FARMS. THE PASTURE-BASED DAIRY FARMS HERE ARE PART OF OUR CLIMATE SOLUTION.

THEY'RE AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR, UH, ECONOMY.

AND, YOU KNOW, FARMS LIKE KATHY TRISH'S FARM, UH, WOULD BE BANNED BECAUSE SHE HAS TWO FARMS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO EACH OTHER UNDER COMMON CONTROL.

AND UNDER THESE EPA DEFINITIONS, THOSE TWO FARMS ARE AGGREGATED INTO ONE CAFO.

SO WHEN THE PROPONENTS SAY THAT SIX DAIRY CAFOS ARE GONNA BE AFFECTED, WE'RE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT EIGHT DAIRY FARMS BECAUSE THERE ARE TWO PAIRS THAT ARE AGGREGATED.

THERE'S SIX CAFOS, BUT EIGHT DAIRY FARMS IN THE MEDIUM CAFO CATEGORY.

THERE'S AN UNKNOWN NUMBER

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OF DAIRY FARMS THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED BECAUSE WHETHER A FARM IS A MEDIUM CAFO OR NOT IS A FACT SPECIFIC INQUIRY THAT DEPENDS ON WHETHER THERE IS A PIPE OR A DITCH THAT CARRIES MANURE TO SURFACE WATERS.

AND GIVEN THE WAY THAT, UH, THAT THERE'S LAND APPLICATION OF MANURE FROM THE LAGOON, UH, TO FIELDS, OR THERE ARE SOME KIND OF OVERFLOW SYSTEM TO PREVENT A LAGOON FAILURE DURING AN ATMOSPHERIC RIVER EVENT, THOSE FACTORS COULD BE SATISFIED.

UH, SO THE NUMBER IN MY OPINION, IS MUCH BROADER THAN WHAT THE PROPONENTS CLAIM AT 21.

UH, I THINK IT COULD GO BROADER.

THERE COULD BE A NUMBER OF, UH, MEDIUM CAFOS THAT ARE AFFECTED BY THIS UNDER THE DEFINITION THAT'S IN THE MEASURE.

SO, UH, BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT IT AFFECTS PASTURE-BASED DAIRY FARMS, I'M, UH, GLAD TO STAND WITH KATHY AND OTHER, UH, FARMERS IN THIS COUNTY TO, TO OPPOSE MEASURE J AND I ASK IF YOU, UH, PASS THIS RESOLUTION.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OSCAR ERIC ALLEN TO BE FOLLOWED BY DARREN KUSON.

GOOD EVENING MAYOR.

AND, UH, CITY COUNCIL OF PETALUMA.

HI, MY NAME IS OSCAR ALLEN.

I'M ORIGINALLY FROM PETALUMA, WENT TO PETALUMA HIGH SCHOOL, UM, LIVE IN SANTA ROSA.

NOT TOO FAR.

MY PARENTS ARE STILL HERE.

EITHER WAY.

UH, ON JANUARY 11TH, 2021, CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED THE CLIMATE EMERGENCY FRAMEWORK AT ITS SPECIAL MEETING, UH, DIRECTING STAFF TO INCORPORATE GOALS FOR FUTURE PLANNING, POLICY AND ACTION TO HELP PETALUMA BE CARBON NEUTRAL BY 2030.

WHILE TODAY, UH, CITY COUNCIL WILL LIKELY THROW AWAY A MAJOR OPPORTUNITY TOWARDS ACHIEVING THAT WITH A RESOLUTION OPPOSING MEASURE J UH, I THOUGHT ABOUT BRINGING STUDIES IN QUOTES FROM REPUTABLE SOURCES ABOUT THE EFFECT THAT FACTORY FARMS HAVE ON THE ENVIRONMENT.

UH, BUT I REALIZED NO POINT BECAUSE WE'VE ALL READ IT, WE'VE ALL HEARD ABOUT IT.

WE ALL KNOW THE, UH, HOW THEY AFFECT THE ENVIRONMENT.

UH, METHANE CARBON DIOXIDE, HYDROGEN SULFIDE, AKA SONOMA AROMA, UH, CAN ALL CAUSE RESPIRATORY ISSUES.

TEMPLE CREEK WATERSHED HAS BEEN IMPAIRED SINCE 1997.

PAGE TWO OF THE WATER BOARD'S EXECUTIVE SUMMARY CLEARLY STATES MANURE FROM CONCENTRATED ANIMAL FEEDING OPERATIONS HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AS THE PRIMARY SOURCE OF IMPAIRED WATER QUALITY CONDITIONS IN THE STEMPEL CREEK WATERSHED.

PROHIBITING CAFOS CLEARLY PROTECTS WATER QUALITY.

UNINCORPORATED, SHOULDN'T MEAN UNIMPORTANT.

A MEDIAN CAFO FALLS WITHIN THE SIZE RANGE, BUT IT ALSO AS, UH, HE MENTIONED, HAS TO HAVE, UH, MANURE CARRIED DIRECTLY TO WATERWAYS.

THAT'S ILLEGAL.

UH, SO THERE ARE NO MEDIUM CAFO.

UH, TO BE A SMALL CAFO, YOU HAVE TO BE DESIGNATED BY THE WATER BOARD.

WE ASKED THE WATER BOARD, THEY SAID THERE'S ZERO.

SO THERE'S ZERO SMALL CAFOS, THERE'S ONLY LARGE.

THAT'S WHERE THIS NUMBER CAME FROM.

WE DIDN'T MAKE THIS UP.

WE ARE FOLLOWING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S DEFINITIONS.

THEREFORE, UH, SINCE OUR ONLY LARGE, UH, CAFOS, UH, MEANING THAT THEY HAVE A SPECIFIC UNDER SPECIFIC NUMBER OF ANIMALS, CERTAIN FARMS HAVE EXCEEDED THOSE NUMBER OF ANIMALS.

THEREFORE, THEY ARE DEEMED A CAFO.

THIS IS VERY CUT AND DRY.

THERE'S NO, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF GRAY AREA HERE.

UH, TO QUOTE HEIDI BAUER, A LICENSED GEOLOGIST FROM PETALUMA WITH OVER 25 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE WORKING IN WATER QUALITY, UH, SHE CAN ATTEST THAT FEWER ANIMALS MEAN LESS POLLUTION, WHETHER YOU ARE IN SUPPORT OF JAY OR NOT.

THIS IS JUST A FACT.

EACH ANIMAL ADDS TO THE AMOUNT OF DISCHARGE OCCURRING, WHETHER THAT BE TO SURFACE WATER OR TO A CROP, OR TO GROUNDWATER DISCHARGES TO SURFACE WATERS WILL IMPACT REPAIRING ECOSYSTEMS AND IMPAIR WATER BODIES LIKE THE TEMPLE CREEK WATERSHED.

DISCHARGES TO GROUNDWATER CAN CAUSE NITRATE EXCEEDANCES.

THIS IS, HAS BEEN MEASURED THROUGH WATER TESTING OVER AND OVER.

WE'RE NOT MAKING THIS STUFF UP.

YOU GUYS, PLEASE CONTINUE READING.

THANK YOU, DARREN KUEN TO BE FOLLOWED BY PAUL.

MARTIN.

THANK YOU, CAITLIN.

THANK YOU, COUNSEL.

I'LL PREFACE MY REMARKS BY SAYING I'VE BEEN A VEGAN FOR 13 YEARS, AND WHEN I FIRST HEARD ABOUT THIS BILL, I WAS READY TO HAVE MY FULL SUPPORT.

UH, AND I WAS QUICKLY DISUSED OF THAT WHEN I ACTUALLY READ THE MEASURE.

SO, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST THING THAT CAUGHT MY EYE REALLY AT THE BEGINNING, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE WORD CAHO, CONCENTRATED ANIMAL FEEDING OPERATION THAT'S PLUCKED FROM AN EPA FRAMEWORK THAT DOES NOT IMBUE THAT WORD WITH NEGATIVE CONNOTATIONS.

I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

UH, THE FRAMEWORK, THIS MEASURE

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J DEFINES IT.

AND THE EPA DEFINES IT, UH, FEATURES LIKE SIZE THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, WHETHER ANIMALS ARE PENNED, AND THAT CAN BE IN A PASTURE FOR 45 DAYS OUTTA 365 DAYS, AND THAT'S IT.

THERE'S NO MENTION OF DENSITY TREATMENT OF ANIMALS.

SO THIS IS AN INCREDIBLY BROAD DEFINITION THAT, AGAIN, IS NEVER CONSTRUED TO IMPLY THAT THERE ARE HARMS TO ANIMALS OR GROUNDWATER OCCURRING JUST BY THE NATURE OF A FARM MEETING THAT DEFINITION.

SO FOR ME, THIS MEASURE USES THAT DEFINITION RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING, SECTIONS ONE THROUGH THREE IN AN ENTIRELY UNINTENDED AND INACCURATE CONTEXT TO CLAIM ANY FARM IS DEFINITIVELY RESULTING IN ANIMAL OR GROUNDWATER HARMS. AND IN FACT, IN SONOMA COUNTY, WE HAVE A VERY COMPREHENSIVE AND COMPLEX REGULATORY FRAMEWORK TO IDENTIFY WHEN THERE ARE ACTUALLY HARMS OCCURRING.

AND FOR ME, WHEN I FIRST READ THIS, I THOUGHT, THIS IS ASSUMING GUILT OR ASSUMING HARMS WITHOUT ANY RECOURSE, UH, BY THESE FARMERS.

AND TO ME, I, THAT'S INSANE THAT I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD SURVIVE LEGAL CHALLENGE ULTIMATELY, BECAUSE YOU'RE, AGAIN, YOU'RE ASSUMING HARMS BASED ON AN EPA DEFINITION THAT DOES NOT DO THE SAME.

SO THERE ARE LOTS OF GROUPS RIGHT NOW BREAKING DOWN THE INACCURACIES OF THE MEASURE, STARTING WITH THEIR LISTED STATEMENTS OF FACT AND RUNNING ALL THE WAY THROUGH.

I'M ACTUALLY COMPILING THAT LIST, AND I WAS HOPING TO HAVE IT DONE AS MY HOMEWORK FOR THIS HEARING, BUT I'LL BE SENDING THAT TO OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS AS SOMETHING FOR FOLKS WHO ARE INFLUENTIAL IN OUR COMMUNITY TO, TO HAVE, UH, IN, IN THEIR TOOL BELT.

BUT FOR ME, THE IT, WE DISCUSSED THE IMPACTS ON THE ECONOMY AND LAND USE PATTERNS IN SONOMA THAT ARE SHOCKING.

AND REALLY, ONE OTHER ELEMENT OF THIS IS SOMETHING ABOUT THE DISINGENUOUS NATURE OF THE BILL.

EVEN THE PROMOTION OF IT SAYING WE'RE AGAINST FACTORY FARMS. THAT WORD IS NOT DEFINED IN THE ORDINANCE.

IT'S NOT USED IN THE MEASURE.

UH, AND YOU KNOW, AS SOMEONE WHO IS PART OF THE VEGAN COMMUNITY, THE GROUP THAT CREATED THE LEGISLATION OR AUTHORED IT AND LARGELY BROUGHT IT FORWARD CALLED DIRECT ACTION EVERYWHERE, IS A GROUP NOT UNIVERSALLY LOVED BY VEGANS, BUT IN DISCUSSIONS WITH SOME OF THEIR MEMBERS, YOU KNOW, I WAS ASKED, WELL, IF THOSE DEFINITIONS ARE BAD AND A SLEDGEHAMMER WITH UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES IN FARMS THAT MAYBE AREN'T DOING THESE BAD THINGS, WHAT DEFINITION WOULD YOU PROPOSE? I SAID, WELL, I WOULDN'T HAVE TO PROPOSE ONE BECAUSE I'M NOT PROPOSING THIS LEGISLATION.

BUT ALSO IT WOULD TAKE A COMPLEX REGULATORY FRAMEWORK LIKE THE ONE WE HAVE.

BUT WE EVENTUALLY DIFFUSE INTO A DISCUSSION OF VEGAN MORALITY AND WHETHER ANY FARM SHOULD ENGAGE IN ANIMAL AGRICULTURE.

AND FOR ME, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING YOU CAN LEGISLATE.

IT'S POORLY CONSTRUCTED AND DANGEROUS AND ITS IMPLICATION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, PAUL MARTIN IS OUR, UH, LAST SPEAKER ON THIS TOPIC THIS EVENING.

THANK YOU.

PAUL MARTIN.

I AM IN THE TWO ROCK AREA, A RETIRED DAIRYMAN AND, UH, HAVE WORKED ON DAIRY ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES, UH, FOR MY ENTIRE CAREER.

AND I THINK THE THING THAT STRUCK ME WHEN I WALKED IN THE ROOM WAS THE CHART YOU HAVE ON THE WALL IN THE CENTER OF IT SAYS SUSTAINABILITY.

AND WHAT THIS MAJOR IS ABOUT TO ME IS SUSTAINABILITY, NOT ONLY OF FARMS, BUT OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THOSE FARMS, THE PEOPLE THAT OWN THEM, THE PEOPLE THAT WORK ON THEM.

AND, UH, THOSE I THINK ARE THE, THE VALUES THAT WE WANT TO PROTECT IS THOSE, UH, PEOPLE ORIENTED, UH, BUSINESSES THAT ARE PART OF THE PETALUMA MYSTIQUE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND THAT CLOSES PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THE EVENING, AND I'D LIKE TO BRING IT BACK UP TO THE DAAS AND INVITE A COMMENT FROM THE DAAS VICE VICE MAYOR.

UM, I THINK WHAT WE'VE JUST HEARD, UM, IS, IS PRETTY CORRECT THAT THIS IS NOT THE CORRECT LEGISLATION TO, TO SOLVE AN ISSUE THAT IS, UM, CONCERNING TO SOME AND, UH, WITH THE FACTORY FARMS. AND YOU THINK OF FACTORY FARMS, YOU ACTUALLY THINK OF THE VERY LARGE FARMS. I'VE BEEN IN THE MIDWEST AND I'VE SEEN THE LARGE FARMS. I'VE BEEN ON THE CENTRAL VALLEY, AND I'VE BEEN ON THOSE LARGE FARMS, UH, FACTORY FARMS AND, AND THEY CAN BE PRETTY DISGUSTING, UH, TO LOOK AT.

SO, UM, YEAH, SO THE INTENT MAY BE CORRECT BEHIND THIS, BUT THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT LEGISLATION AT ALL.

UM, I THINK LOCALLY, UM, UNFORTUNATELY OUR, UH, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF GOOD PUBLICITY ABOUT THE, UH, MANAGEMENT OF OUR DAIRIES, SUSTAINABILITY, THEIR ORGANIC.

UM, HOWEVER, OUR, WHICH IS REALLY TARGETED AT OUR POULTRY FARMS, THE DAIRY FARMS, WE NEED TO PROTECT OUR DAIRY FARMS AND OUR, OUR DAIRY FARMERS FOR SURE.

BUT THIS IS ACTUALLY TARGETED AT OUR POULTRY FARMS. AND, UM, OUR POULTRY FARMERS DO NOT DO A VERY GOOD JOB OF SHOWING THEIR, SHOWCASING THEIR SUSTAINABILITY.

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UH, I HAVE SENT STUDENTS OUT TO ACTUALLY LOOK AT ONE OF THEM.

THEY WEREN'T ALLOWED ON SITE.

THE, UH, CHICKENS WERE MARKETED AS, UH, FREE RANGE, AND IT WAS OBVIOUSLY NOT.

AND THEY ACTUALLY SHOWED ME PHOTOGRAPHS OF THESE THINGS.

SO THERE IS SOME ISSUES THAT WE STILL NEED TO SOLVE.

THERE IS AN ISSUE HERE.

UM, UH, I'M WORKING WITH S SAN ESRA INSTITUTE AND LOOKING AT THE SEDIMENT AND THE SEDIMENT CONTAMINATION OF THE RIVER IS SUSPECTED TO BE FROM AGRICULTURE.

UM, AND EVEN THOUGH WE DO A FAIRLY GOOD JOB, UM, IT'S NOT PERFECT AND WE STILL HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF CONTAMINATION GOING ON NOW AND THEN THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT LEGISLATION OR THE RIGHT PROCEDURES.

WE HAVE LOTS OF REGULATIONS, LOTS OF REALLY GOOD STRONG INTENT OF FULL, ALL THE FAMILIES INVOLVED IN BOTH POULTRY AND, AND THE CATTLE INDUSTRY, THE DAIRY INDUSTRY ARE FULLY BEHIND SUSTAINABILITY LOCALLY.

WE'RE, THEY'RE ALL GOING TO DOING THE BEST THAT THEY CAN ON THEIR SITES AS FAR AS I KNOW.

UM, BUT THERE ARE STILL ISSUES AND WE NEED TO SOLVE THEM AND WE ALSO NEED TO GET THE PUBLIC MORE INFORMED ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN BOTH DAIRY AND IN THE POULTRY, WHICH IS THE TARGET OF THIS LEGISLATION.

SO, UM, THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT YES, WE, WE, WE ARE DEFINITELY GOING TO REJECT MEASURE J FOR SURE, BUT WE ALSO NEED TO, UH, BE BETTER, UM, UH, EDUCATORS AND INFORMERS OF WHAT IS GOING ON IN, IN OUR POULTRY AND DAIRY AND GET THE WORD OUT TO THE POPULATION AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

'CAUSE HERE LOCALLY, WE, WE DO A MUCH BETTER JOB THAN JUST ABOUT MOST ANYWHERE ELSE IN CALIFORNIA, WHICH IS BETTER OFF THAN MOST ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE MIDWEST WHERE I'VE TRAVELED QUITE A BIT LOOKING AT THOSE FARMS. SO, UM, WHAT, WHAT I'VE BEEN INTO THE PIG FARMS AND, UH, CHICKEN FARMS OUT IN THE SOUTH, AND THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT THING THAN WHAT WE DO HERE.

SO, UM, ANYWAY, WE, WE DO AS GOOD A JOB AS WE CAN DO, AND WE FULLY SUPPORT AG HERE IN THIS COUNTY.

THANK YOU.

UM, COUNCIL MEMBER HEALY, WE GO DOWN THIS WAY.

COUNCIL MEMBER KATE OR THOMPSON? WELL, I JUST WANNA BRING UP, UM, JUST THE COST, UM, OF FOOD.

WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE THESE FARMS HERE, YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S GONNA DO.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WHEN PEOPLE TALK ABOUT BUYING A DOZEN EGGS, WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA EXPECT PEOPLE TO SPEND, YOU KNOW, SEVEN, EIGHT, $9 A DOZEN, AND THAT'S WHAT IT'S GONNA END UP BEING.

AND SO I THINK THERE'S A COST, UM, THAT PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND.

AND, UM, AND I DO BELIEVE THERE WOULD PROBABLY BE A LEGAL CHALLENGE ANYWAY, THE WAY THAT THIS IS WRITTEN.

AND I AM, UM, OPPOSING MEASURE J AND I'D BE HAPPY TO MOVE THIS.

OKAY.

AND, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLE.

YEAH, I'LL SECOND THE SECOND THE MOTION.

UM, OKAY.

SO HAVING, UM, GROWN UP SHOWING COWS, I'VE BEEN ON SOME OF THE DAIRIES THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED BY THIS.

UM, AND I CAN SAY THEY'RE SOME OF THE BEST ONE DAIRIES, UM, IN THE COUNTY.

UM, THIS IS A, UH, AN INCREDIBLY, UM, POORLY CONCEIVED MEASURE.

UM, IT'S A, IT'S A SOLUTION LOOKING FOR A PROBLEM.

IT'S, UM, THERE'S SO MANY THINGS WRONG WITH IT.

UM, WE JUST ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH OUR GENERAL PLAN, AND I JUST, YOU KNOW, AGRICULTURE IS SUCH A CORE PART OF IT.

WE PRESERVED OUR MILLS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE PROPERTIES WITH OUR MILLS ON THEM.

UM, WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE EXISTING CONDITION REPORTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND SEEING HOW MUCH OF OUR, UM, LOCAL ECONOMY IS DRIVEN BY THE AGRICULTURE INDUSTRY.

UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR POLICY FRAMEWORKS, HOW MUCH OF THE FUTURE OF OUR ECONOMY WE WANT TO BE CENTERED AROUND AGRICULTURE AND SUSTAINABLE AGRICULTURE AND SUSTAINABLE FARMING.

IS THERE ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT? ABSOLUTELY.

THERE'S ALWAYS ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT IN ANY INDUSTRY.

UM, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A LEGAL CHALLENGE 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA BEAT IT BY 30 POINTS.

UM, THERE'S SO MANY PROBLEMS WITH THIS.

UM, IT'S AN ASSAULT ON OUR WAY OF LIFE, ON SO MANY PEOPLE'S WAY OF LIVES.

UM, AND MY REAL MESSAGE IS TO, UM, ALL THE OTHER AGENCIES THAT ARE OUT THERE TO PLEASE SUPPORT THIS, THIS RESOLUTION AND OPPOSE MEASURE J THIS IS NOT JUST A PETALUMA FIGHT, THIS IS A COUNTYWIDE FIGHT.

UM, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE WHO WORK IN THE AG INDUSTRY AND IN THE INDUSTRIAL AG INDUSTRY HERE IN PETALUMA.

UM, BUT ONLY 21% OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN PETALUMA ACTUALLY WORK HERE.

SO THIS IS GONNA HAVE COUNTYWIDE RIPPLING EFFECTS.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE'RE GONNA ALL VOTE FOR IT TONIGHT, OR AT LEAST I HOPE SO.

BUT, UM, THIS NEEDS TO BE A COUNTYWIDE FIGHT AND SEND THIS THING, UM, INTO ITS GRAVE WITH A 30 POINT LOSS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER HEALEY.

YEAH, THIS IS AN EASY CALL.

UM, IT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE AND, UM, I THINK MOST OF THE POINTS THAT NEEDED TO BE MADE HAVE ALREADY BEEN MADE BY PEOPLE ON THE DIOCESE AND STAFF.

AND I REALLY WANTED TO THANK STAFF FOR DOING A, UH, A VERY GOOD JOB, UH, EXPLAINING ALL THE RAMIFICATIONS OF THIS, UM, FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

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AND, UM, I KNOW ALL OF US WILL BE REACHING OUT TO OUR COLLEAGUES IN OTHER CITIES IN THE COUNTY TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO DO LIKEWISE.

I THINK PETALUMA IS PROBABLY U UNIQUELY SITUATED AS AN AG SUPPORT CENTER COMPARED TO THE OTHER CITIES.

AND I, I KNOW DISCUSSING IT WITH SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES IN OTHER CITIES, AND I'M SURE OTHER FOLKS HERE HAVE HAD THE SAME EXPERIENCE.

IT'S NOT ON THEIR RADAR SCREEN IN THE SAME WAY AS IT IS ON OURS, AND WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE, I'M GLAD WE'RE THE FIRST.

UM, WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THEY ACT AS WELL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER.

NOW, WELL, SINCE I'M A A FARM GIRL, IT'S, IT, UM, SADDENS ME THAT PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF AGRICULTURE AND THE RIPPLE EFFECT OF THIS.

UM, I DO WANNA DO A PSA TO, UM, THE, UM, SONOMA COUNTY FARM FEST THAT'S GOING TO BE ON SUNDAY, JULY 21ST FROM 11 TO FOUR OUT OF THE OLYMPIA ESTATES.

AND, UH, MY MOM WILL BE THERE WITH HER BEES.

UM, I GREW UP WITH SUSTAIN SUSTAINABLE AGRICULTURE.

MY NIECE AND NEPHEW ARE AG TEACHERS, AND I WAS A PROUD FOUR H MEMBER SHOWING BEEF CATTLE AT THE LOCAL FAIRS.

AND I GREW UP ON A CHICKEN RANCH.

SO, UM, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO BE EDUCATED ON THIS AND GO OUT TO THE ACTUAL DAIRIES AND MEET THE FARMERS.

SO, UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR EVERYBODY WHO'S SUPPORTING NOAH MEASURE J THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER.

ICK.

I REALLY HAVE NOTHING TO ADD ALL THE COMMENTS.

YES.

I THINK THIS IS A FLAWED MEASURE, UH, WITH, UH, HOPEFULLY WITH SOME GOOD INTENTION, BUT YEAH.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

I, I SUPPORT THE MEASURE.

OKAY.

THANKS.

THE RESOLUTION.

THANKS.

UH, YEAH, AND, UH, I JUST WANT TO ADD A FEW POINTS IS, UH, I, I DO CONCURRENT IN REGARDS TO SUSTAINABILITY AND CLIMATE THAT, UM, THAT HUMANKIND HAS TO MOVE AWAY FROM, UH, IT'S MEAT-BASED MOVE AWAY FROM MEAT-BASED DIETS TO PLANT-BASED DIETS GREATER, UH, EFFORT THERE.

BUT THE PATHWAY AWAY IS THE THING WE DO IN SONOMA COUNTY, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, QUALITY, UH, DAIRY QUALITY RANCHING, UM, LESS IMPACTFUL ON THE, ON THE CLIMATE.

UM, SO I, I THINK THIS IS MIS MISGUIDED TO, TO FOCUS THIS IN SONOMA COUNTY WHEN, UM, IF YOU DON'T BUY SONOMA COUNTY, YOU'VE JUST UPPED THE PRODUCTION AT AREAS THAT ARE PURE CAPABLE.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THE OTHER THING IS THE COMMUNITY IS SO PROUD OF THE ORGANIC AND PASTURE EFFORTS THAT HAVE BEEN INNOVATED HERE.

UM, THAT, I MEAN, IT'S A BUILDING BLOCK OF COMMUNITY, THAT KIND OF THING.

UH, THE EAT LOCAL MOVEMENT, THE, THE FACT THAT WE HAVE, UH, AGRICULTURE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

UM, AND I THINK WE NEED TO STAND BEHIND AND SUPPORT LOCAL, UH, AND, AND EVEN, UM, THE CHAMPIONS WHO'VE, WHO'VE, UH, PUSHED DAIRY IN SUCH A GOOD DIRECTION AND, AND GO UN UNRECOGNIZED, UH, UH, ACCEPTED THESE TIMES OF STRESS.

UH, WE DO HAVE A GREAT COMMUNITY OF FARMS AND WE NEED TO SUSTAIN IT BY VOTING NO ON, UH, MEASURE J.

AND, UH, DO I HEAR SOMETHING FROM OUR, NOTHING TO ADD.

UM, THANK YOU, COUNSEL.

IF THERE ARE MORE QUESTIONS, WE'LL ADDRESS 'EM.

I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT WE'VE GOT THE, UH, UGB, UM, SUPPORTING ARGUMENT CIRCULATING TO THE COUNCIL, AND WE ALSO HAVE A, A FORM, UM, FOR THE, FOR THE REGISTRAR VOTERS, IF YOU COULD BE SO KIND IS TO SIGN EACH OF THOSE, UH, YEP.

AND IN THIS, AND MAKE SURE YOU SIGN IN THE SEQUENCE IN WHICH YOUR NAME IS LISTED ON THE ARGUMENT.

SO, SO YOU'LL SHOW UP IN THE SAME POSITION ON EACH FORM.

IF YOU'VE GOT A QUESTION, HOLLER AT ME, BUT I JUST WANT OKAY.

TO AVOID ANY, AND WE NEED TO CONDUCT THAT BEFORE THE END OF, UH, THE CONCLUSION OF THIS MEETING.

YES.

OKAY.

THAT'S, IT'S COMING.

IT'S RIGHT THERE, RIGHT? IT'S COMING TO YOU.

AND SHORTLY.

SO, UM, AND SORRY, SORRY, SORRY TO INTERRUPT THE GOOD DISCUSSION ON THE, ON THE MEASURED DAY.

I THINK WE'RE A WRAP ON THAT.

AND, UH, WE, UM, ARE NOW TO A ROLL CALL VOTE ON THAT ITEM.

BARNICLE AYE.

GA THOMPSON? YES.

HEALY? YES.

NOW? YES.

POST.

OKAY.

YES.

SCH SHRIMPS.

YES.

MCDONALD.

YES.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

AND, UM, SO THAT CONCLUDES, UH, THAT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA.

UH, AND WE ARE NOW IN A PERIOD WHERE WE ARE SIGNING AND, UH, WE HAVE NO OTHER BUSINESS.

WE'RE NOT ADJOURNING UNTIL THAT SIGNATURE FORM, UH, GOES ACROSS.

BUT, UM, UM, I'M GLAD WE TOOK THAT, UH, ACTION TONIGHT.

APPRECIATE STAFF'S PRESENTATION ON THIS FOR, FOR TITLE TO APPEAR BELOW NAME.

DO YOU WANT PETAL

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THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER OR THAT KIND OF THING? THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE PERFECT.

OH, YEP.

AND THANK YOU ALL FOR ATTENDING AND, UH, SPEAKING TONIGHT.

YEAH.

HMM.

SEE IF WE CAN GET THIS RIGHT.

50 50.

TRY TO INCLUDE LIKE CERTAIN, UH, IT, IT WASN'T MUCH, SOMEONE JUST GAVE IT TO ME.

OKAY.

YEAH, NO, I THINK THAT, I THOUGHT WHAT WE ENDED UP WITH WAS REALLY STRONG.

OKAY.

DOES IT LOOK AT MIKE? ERIC, YOU BETTER DOUBLE CHECK.

THAT'S BEFORE YOU LET US LEAVE.

I'LL SLIDE IT IN SECOND.

THE FIRST TWO JUST HANDED IT DOWN.

THAT'S FINE.

? YEAH.

UH, OKAY.

THE OTHER ONE IS, OH, HERE, THEN IT, I THOUGHT BETTER JUST TO GET HIM GOING AND CIRCLE YOUR FOLDER.

YEAH.

JAMES LAN WAS QUITE A,

[02:36:06]

THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED FOR THE EVENING.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.