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SO, GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME.

UH, TONIGHT'S A REALLY

[CALL TO ORDER]

EXCITING NIGHT.

THANK YOU, A VERY EXCITING NIGHT.

WE'RE PLEASED TO HAVE EVERYONE HERE IN ATTENDANCE.

WE HAVE, UH, SOME INTRODUCTIONS HERE IN A MOMENT, BUT IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING.

WE'RE VERY EXCITED.

THIS IS A FIRST OF, OF, UH, ITS KIND FOR THE CITY OF PETALUMA.

THIS IS AN INAUGURAL MEETING OF A NEW, UH, COMMITTEE, UH, FOR THE FIRST EVER IN THE, IN THE HISTORY OF PETALUMA, WHICH IS WELL OVER 165 YEARS IN EXISTENCE.

SO THAT'S QUITE AN ACCOMPLISHMENT, AND IT'S, AND WE'RE REALLY PLEASED AND HAPPY TO BE HERE TONIGHT.

UM, SO I, I WOULD, UH, LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER AND, UH, AGAIN, WELCOME EVERYONE FOR THE FIRST EVER PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING FOR WEDNESDAY, JULY 24TH, 2024.

AND AT THIS TIME, IF YOU WISH TO PROVIDE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, WE'D ENCOURAGE ANYONE IN ATTENDANCE TO FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD IN THE BACK OF THE CHAMBER, JUST OUTSIDE THE DOORS, AND BRING THAT FORWARD TO THE COMMITTEE CLERK WHO'S TO THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE DAIS.

AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE'RE GONNA DO A ROLL CALL OF OUR NEWLY APPOINTED, UH, COMMITTEE MEMBERS BY NAME.

AND SO, WHEN THE CLERK OF THE MEETING, UH, SAYS YOUR NAME, PLEASE JUST PRESS THE BUTTON, UH, ON YOUR MICROPHONE AND INDICATE YOU'RE PRESENT.

VERDE PRESENT, FOX PRESENT.

ATTORNEY PRESENT.

MILLER.

PRESENT.

OSLER PRESENT.

SULLIVAN.

PRESENT POST.

K PRESENT.

OKAY.

EVERYONE IS IN ATTENDANCE.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE EVERYONE TO JOIN US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

AND IF YOU CAN PLEASE STAND AND THE FLAGS TO THE RIGHT PLEDGE.

ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE LIBERTY, JUSTICE FOR .

AND AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I'D LIKE TO ASK OUR CITY CLERK, KAITLYN CORLEY, TO JOIN US AS SHE WILL BE ADMINISTERING THE OATH OF OFFICE AS, UH, NEW COMMITTEE MEMBERS, EACH OF YOU WILL BE GIVEN THE OATH, AND THIS WILL FORMALIZE YOUR INTRODUCTION TO THE COMMITTEE.

HI EVERYONE.

UH, SO EXCITED TO BE HERE.

THIS IS A GREAT NIGHT.

SO I'M GONNA ADMINISTER THE OATH.

SO WHAT I'LL HAVE YOU ALL DO IS STAND, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, UH, AND YOU'LL JUST REPEAT AFTER ME.

AND THERE IS AN OATH IN FRONT OF YOU IF YOU NEED A CHEAT SHEET, BUT I'LL GO PRETTY SLOW, SO YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO LISTEN ALONG.

SO HERE WE GO.

I STATE YOUR NAME.

DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR, SWEAR THAT I WILL SUPPORT AND DEFEND, THAT I WILL SUPPORT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, THE CHARTER OF THE CITY OF PETALUMA, THE CHARTER, THE CITY OF PETALUMA, AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, CALIFORNIA, AGAINST ALL ENEMIES, FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC, AGAINST ALL ENEMIES, FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC, THAT I WILL BEAR TRUE FAITH AND ALLEGIANCE, AND THAT I WILL BEAR TRUE FAITH AND ALLEGIANCE TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, THE CHARTER OF THE CITY OF PETALUMA, THE CHARTER, AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, AND THE CONSTITUTION OF CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

THAT I TAKE THIS OBLIGATION FREELY, FREELY, WITHOUT ANY MENTAL RESERVATION, WITHOUT OR PURPOSE OF EVASION, OR PURPOSE OF, AND THAT I WILL WELL AND FAITHFULLY, I WILL AND FAITHFULLY DISCHARGE THE DUTIES, DISCHARGE, DISCHARGE THE DUTIES UPON WHICH I'M ABOUT TO ENTER.

CONGRATULATIONS.

THANK IF, IF I COULD HAVE YOU EACH SIGN THE OATH THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU, UH, AND THEN PASS IT ON DOWN TO THE CHIEF.

I'LL COLLECT THEM THIS EVENING.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

AND, AND WHILE YOU'RE DOING THAT, I THINK WE ALSO JUST WANNA TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY.

THIS, THIS, AGAIN, IS FOR MANY REASONS, A HISTORIC EVENT FOR THE CITY.

AND SO THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY, AND WE ONLY GET THIS OPPORTUNITY ONCE IF YOU HAVE FAMILY OR FRIENDS, OR IF YOU'D LIKE, WE CAN EITHER STAND OR SIT AND LOOK TO THE AUDIENCE AND HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME PHOTOGRAPHS.

UM, IT IS QUITE A PRESTIGIOUS NOMINATION AND APPOINTMENT TO BE SELECTED FOR THIS TYPE OF SERVICE FOR YOUR COMMUNITY.

UM, WE ARE THANKFUL FOR THAT SERVICE.

AND WE ALSO WANT TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE IN THIS CAPACITY AND HAVE YOUR FAMILY AND YOUR LOVED ONES DOCUMENT THAT WITH US.

UM, SO IF, YOU KNOW, I WOULD, UH, LEAVE IT TO THE GROUP IF WE CAN STAY SEATING OR SEATED OR STAND.

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UM, BUT I THINK CAITLIN AND OUR TEAM WOULD LOVE TO MEMORIALIZE THIS MOMENT IN HISTORY IN THE CITY'S HISTORY AND CAPTURING, UH, THAT WE'RE HERE.

AND TODAY'S THE DAY.

THANK YOU.

SO THIS IS OUR PHOTO OP TIME CHIEF.

YEAH.

OKAY.

THAT'D BE GREAT.

THANKS.

AND, AND I'LL JUST NOTE TOO, UM, GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

I'M, MY NAME IS ERIC DANLEY, THE CITY ATTORNEY.

UM, THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE OATH THAT YOU JUST TOOK, A COUPLE OF, YOU KNOW, COUNCILMAN, MEMBER K KNOWS, UM, FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER KEARNEY KNOWS, UM, THAT'S, THAT FORMALIZES YOUR TAKING YOUR SEAT AS AN APPOINTEE, AS A SUBORDINATE BODY MEMBER, UM, TO THE PETALUMA CITY COUNCIL.

UM, YOU'VE JUST TAKEN THE SAME CONSTITUTIONAL OATH THAT WE DO.

UM, SO WELCOME TO THE, THE WELCOME BEING A CITY OF PETALUMA PUBLIC OFFICIAL.

UM, WE'RE GONNA BE GLAD TO BE HELPING SUPPORT, UM, YOUR SERVICE ALONG WITH THE REST OF THE CITY TEAM.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

SO WHAT HAPPENS, , , PERFECT.

THANK YOU FOR BEING PATIENT THROUGH THAT.

AND WE ARE GONNA MOVE INTO SOME OF OUR, UH, ITEMS NOW.

AND SO ONE OF THE FIRST PIECES IS MUCH OF, UH, YOU KNOW, PART OF THIS IS NEW AND WE'RE LEARNING.

SO I JUST WANNA START WITH PREFACING FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND MYSELF.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE SERVED IN THIS CAPACITY ON RUNNING AND HOSTING A CITY COMMITTEE MEETING.

SO WE'RE LEARNING WITH ALL OF YOU.

SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE RAISE THOSE OF US, OF CITY STAFF, OF THE PRESENTERS.

THIS, THIS IS REALLY INTEND TO PROVIDE INFORMATION AND PROVIDE DIALOGUE.

UM, BUT WITH THAT, TONIGHT, I AM SERVING AS YOUR CHAIR OF THE MEETING, BUT THIS IS YOUR COMMITTEE, AND WE WILL BE ASKING FOR YOU ALL TO DESIGNATE AND APPOINT, UM, THROUGH A VOTE, A CHAIRPERSON AND A VICE CHAIR.

AND SO THE CHAIR WILL BE SERVING AS THE ONE WHO RUNS THE MEETING, MUCH LIKE I'M DOING TONIGHT.

AND STAFF WILL PROVIDE KIND OF A SCRIPT ON HOW THE MEETINGS RUN.

AND, AND YOU'RE JUST ASKED TO FOLLOW THAT, GIVE DIRECTION AND LEAD THE DISCUSSION ON BEHALF OF THE COMMITTEE.

AND THEN CITY STAFF WILL HELP SUPPORT AND GUIDE YOU THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

SO THE FIRST THING THAT WE ARE HOPING TO ACCOMPLISH TONIGHT IS TO HAVE THAT INITIAL DISCUSSION AMONGST YOU ALL ABOUT WHOM YOU WOULD LIKE TO APPOINT OR VOTE, UH, AND ELECT TO SERVE AS YOUR COMMITTEE CHAIR.

AND SO, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S SOMEONE, OR IF YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION, IF SOMEONE HAS A BURNING DESIRE TO LEAD IN THAT CAPACITY.

UM, BUT THE FLOOR IS YOURS AND, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ON THE COMMITTEE HAS A COMMENT TO THAT.

THANKS, CHIEF.

AND, AND IN, IN CASE IT'S HELPFUL, I'LL JUST ADD THAT TYPICALLY THE WAY WE DO THIS WITH THE VARIOUS SUBORDINATE BODIES, UM, THE COMMITTEES AND COMMISSIONS, AND, AND EACH ONE DOES THIS, UM, ANNUALLY, IS THERE'LL BE A NOMINATION AND A SECOND, AND THEN A VOTE ON, ON THE CHAIR AND THE CHAIR, PRO TEM OR THE VICE CHAIR.

BUT YOU MAY WANNA HAVE DELIBERATION FIRST.

YOU MAY WANNA TALK ABOUT WHO'S, UM, WHO'S INTERESTED IN SERVING OR WHO MAY NOT BE INTERESTED IN SERVING, UM, AND THINKING IN TERMS OF YOUR SCHEDULE AND WHATEVER ELSE.

UM, AND WE'LL BE HAPPY TO SUPPORT THAT DISCUSSION AND ANSWER QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

GO AHEAD AND IF YOU, IF YOU'D, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK, JUST OKAY.

I AM, IF IT'S OKAY, I'M GONNA NOMINATE YOU, MIKE, BECAUSE YOU WERE ON THE AD HOC COMMITTEE AND THE ONLY ONE, AND ALSO I LISTENED IN ON WHEN THE, UM, COUNCIL WAS APPOINTING US, AND YOU WERE THE ONLY ONE WHO GOT IN ON THE FIRST, LIKE, YOU GOT THE MOST VOTES OF EVERYBODY.

SO I WOULD LOVE TO NOMINATE YOU, AND I'LL JUST REMIND, WE HAVE TO SPEAK KIND OF CLOSE INTO THESE MICS SO THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, IT GOES TO THE FEED AND WE RECORD AND ALL THAT STUFF.

SO JUST REMINDER, IS THAT OKAY? THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

I, I APPRECIATE THAT.

I DIDN'T KNOW THAT AND I WOULD BE HONORED TO SERVE AS A CHAIR IF, IF THAT'S ACCEPTABLE FOR EVERYONE ELSE, BUT I'M HAPPY TO HAVE WHOLE DISCUSSION.

SURE, YEP.

YEAH.

AS I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE RISING, I WOULD BE HONORED TO SECOND THAT MOTION.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY, UH, COMMITTEE MEMBER STETLER AND A

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SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER .

RIGHT.

AND AT THIS TIME, I WOULD ASK THE CLERK FOR A ROLL CALL.

VOTE ONE SECOND.

.

SORRY IF THAT'S OKAY.

, WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE WE DOING? WHAT ARE WE DOING? I THINK WE'RE, OH, OKAY.

I THINK, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'LL BE UP THERE.

IT GOES UP THERE.

I HAVE NO VERDE.

YES.

FOX.

YES.

KEARNEY.

YES.

MILLER? YES.

OSLER.

YES.

SULLIVAN? YES.

AND POSTY? K? YES.

DECISION IS UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND CONGRATULATIONS, CHAIR MILLER.

UH, WE WILL NOW HAVE A SIMILAR CONVERSATION AND DISCUSSION FOR THE VICE CHAIR.

SO IF THERE'S, UM, A SITUATION WHERE YOU'RE ABSENT OR UNABLE TO ATTEND, THIS WOULD BE THE COMMITTEE MEMBER THAT WOULD SERVE IN YOUR ABSENCE AND CARRY THE MEETING FORWARD.

SO I WOULD OPEN IT FOR DISCUSSION, OR AGAIN, FOR A MOTION IF THERE'S, UH, ANYONE WISHING TO SERVE OR IF ANYONE, UH, WISHES TO SERVE.

MAYBE EXPRESSING THAT TO THE COMMITTEE SO THEY COULD MAKE A MOTION.

I DON'T MIND SERVING, SUPPORTING HIM.

OKAY.

SO I'LL SECOND MR. VERDE'S.

MOTION FOR HIM TO BE VICE CHAIR.

OKAY.

SO A MOTION MADE BY COUNCIL, UH, COMMITTEE MEMBER VERDE.

SECONDED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER KEARNEY.

UH, CLERK FOR ROLL CALL.

VOTE.

OKAY.

VERDE? YES.

FOX? YES.

KEARNEY? YES.

MILLER? YES.

OSLER? YES.

SULLIVAN AND POSTY.

K? YES.

DECISION IS UNANIMOUS.

PERFECT.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU.

CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR VICE CHAIR APPOINTMENT.

UM, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, UM, I JUST WANNA REMIND, REMIND YOU THAT, UH, FOR THE FOLLOWING MEETING COUNT OR CHAIR PERSON MILLER WILL BE SERVING AS THE CHAIR OF THE MEETING AND, UH, FOLLOWING THE AGENDA, MUCH LIKE I WILL BE.

AND THEN, UH, VICE CHAIR VERDE WILL BE PROVIDING DIRECTION TO BOTH OF YOU ON HOW TO COORDINATE THAT.

SO, UM, WE WILL BE LEARNING TOGETHER.

AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE ARE

[GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT]

GOING TO OPEN UP THE MEETING FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT AS A PUBLIC, UH, COMMITTEE MEETING.

THIS IS A GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.

THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON ITEMS OF PUBLIC INTEREST THAT ARE WITHIN THE COMMITTEE'S SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION.

AND THEY'RE NOT LISTED ON THE CURRENT AGENDA.

PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED UP TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON.

DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF PERSONS WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE.

TIME WILL BE ALLOCATED IN EQUAL SHARES TOTALING NO MORE THAN 15 MINUTES.

AND AT THIS TIME, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? UM, OH, UH, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY FROM BEFORE, BUT WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC COMMENT, GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

GOOD EVENING, JANICE.

CATER THOMPSON.

AND I JUST WANNA WELCOME EVERYBODY.

THIS IS REALLY EXCITING.

IT'S BEEN A LONG PROCESS TO GET TO THIS MEETING AND YOU ALL LOOK FABULOUS UP THERE.

AND I'VE NEVER MET JULIA OR XAVIER, AND I'D REALLY LIKE TO CONNECT WITH YOU AND EVERYBODY ELSE, BUT I, I KNOW OTHER PEOPLE ON THIS COMMITTEE AND YOU HAVE A GREAT CHIEF TO WORK WITH AND STAFF AND USE THE RESOURCES.

UM, DON'T BE AFRAID TO ASK QUESTIONS, AND THE QUESTIONS DON'T HAVE TO BE JUST AT THE MEETING, IT CAN BE AFTERWARDS.

AND I'M JUST THRILLED THAT THIS, UM, COMMITTEE IS FINALLY MOVING FORWARD AND IT'S A GREAT COMMITTEE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND ARE THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS FROM PEOPLE ATTENDING IN PERSON? OKAY, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE'LL BE CLOSING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT AND WE'LL BE MOVING ON TO PRESENTATION

[PRESENTATIONS]

ITEMS. UH, THE FIRST ITEM,

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AND SO, UH, I BELIEVE IF WE DIDN'T INFORM YOU ALREADY, WE HAVE A, UH, AN AGENDA IN FRONT OF EACH COMMITTEE MEMBER.

AND THERE'S AGENDAS ALSO IN THE BREEZEWAY OUTSIDE OF THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

BUT THE FIRST PRESENTATION THAT WE HAVE FOR TONIGHT IS, UH, TO RECEIVE A PRESENTATION ON THE CHARTER OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WHICH WE ALSO ARE REFERRING AS THE PSAC.

YES.

SORRY TO INTERRUPT, BUT I KNOW THAT, UM, ERIC LELAND, UH, WROTE IN A PUBLIC COMMENT, DO WE GET THAT IN FRONT OF US OR, UH, WE DID, UH, RECEIVE THAT AND IT WAS POSTED ON THE WEBSITE WITH THE AGENDA, BUT THAT WAS SPECIFIC TO, UM, AN ITEM NUMBER SIX LATER ON IN THE AGENDA.

GOTCHA.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND SO AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE'LL BE INTRODUCING THE ITEM, THE PRESENTATION ON THE CHARTER OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

AND TO LEAD THAT, I WILL BE WALKING YOU THROUGH THAT PRESENTATION.

SO JUST ONE MOMENT WHILE WE PULL UP THE SLIDE PRESENTATION.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

SO JUST TO START, WE'RE APPROACHING THIS ONE FROM A PLACE THAT WE ARE REALLY ENTHUSED AND EXCITED THAT YOU'RE WILLING.

AND HEY, CHIEF, CAN YOU MOVE THE MICROPHONE CLOSER? YEP.

NO PROBLEM.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UH, JUST AGAIN, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE YOU AS PART OF THIS COMMITTEE.

WE REFERRED TO IT AND PROBABLY WILL COMMONLY REFER TO IT AS THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMITTEE OR ALSO THE P SAC.

UM, BUT REALLY FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE CITY, IT'S ABOUT ENHANCING COMMUNITY RELATIONS AND INFORMING THE PUBLIC ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY MATTERS OF, OF PUBLIC INTEREST.

AND SO, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

.

AND SO PART, PART OF THIS PRESENTATION'S REALLY TO WALK BACK WHERE WE CAME FROM TO HOW DID WE GET TO THIS POINT? MANY IN THE COMMUNITY MAY NOT BE AS FAMILIAR AS, UH, YOU ALL AS COMMITTEE MEMBERS ARE ON THE PURPOSE OR THE INTENT OR THE PROCESS AND HOW THIS, UH, BODY WAS CREATED AND WHAT THE FOCUS AND THE CHARTER AND MISSION OF THIS COMMITTEE IS FOCUSED ON.

AND SO THE, THE COMMITTEE WAS FORMED OUT OF A HYBRID CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT MODEL.

AND IN 2021, THE CITY ESTABLISHED, AS REFERENCED BY SOME OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS ALREADY TONIGHT, A 28 MEMBER, COMMUNITY MEMBER, AD HOC COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT MET, UH, MONTHLY OVER AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY MATTERS HERE LOCALLY IN PETALUMA THAT LED TO IN MAY OF, OF 2022 CITY COUNCIL, IDENTIFYING THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A FORMAL HYBRID CIVILIAN POLICE OVERSIGHT MODEL IS ONE OF THE ITS TOP 10 GOALS AND PRIORITIES.

AND THAT HYBRID MODEL INCLUDED AN INDEPENDENT POLICE AUDITOR WHO IS HERE TONIGHT, AND WE WILL BE, UH, INTRODUCING YOU TO THEM IN A LATER PRESENTATION, AS WELL AS THE CREATION OF THIS PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

SO IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING IT 2023.

AS I MENTIONED, UH, THE IPA, THE INDEPENDENT POLICE AUDITOR WAS, UH, MADE A PRIORITY, BUT WE ACTUALLY SELECTED AND SEATED INTEGRA, WHO IS THE CITY'S INDEPENDENT POLICE AUDITOR.

AND THEY HAVE BEEN SERVING IN THAT CAPACITY SINCE THAT, UH, THAT TIME IN MARCH OF 2024.

EARLIER THIS YEAR, THE POLICE AUDITOR ISSUED THEIR FIRST ANNUAL, UM, AUDITOR'S REPORT, WHICH ENCOMPASSED A LOOK BACK ON MANY OF THE MATTERS AND INCIDENTS IN WHICH THEY HAVE BEEN AUDITING AND REVIEWING SINCE THEIR APPOINTMENT.

IN MAY OF 2024, THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMITTEE SELECTION PROCESS WAS RECOMMENDED TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND ESTABLISHED.

AND SINCE THAT TIME, AS YOU ALL KNOW, AN APPLICATION PERIOD WAS OPEN THROUGH THE CITY'S NORMAL COMMITTEE'S COMMISSION AND BOARD APPOINTMENT PROCESSES.

AND THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UH, APPLICANTS WERE RECEIVED NOMINATED TO COUNCIL, COUNCIL MADE SELECTIONS THROUGH APPOINTMENTS THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

AND TONIGHT, JULY 24TH, 2024 IS OUR INAUGURAL FIRST MEETING OF THAT GROUP.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO, THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES, UM, THE COMMITTEE IS ASKED TO SERVE AS A COMMUNITY RESOURCE AND ASSIST THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE FORMATION OF STRATEGIES, THE DEVELOPMENT OF POLICING, COMMUNITY POLICING CONCEPTS,

[00:20:01]

HELPING US INCREASE OUR PUBLIC OUTREACH AND PUBLIC AWARENESS, AND OUR ADDRESSING OF PUBLIC AND COMMUNITY RELATIONS.

UH, IT'S A FORUM FOR DISCUSSIONS CONCERNING COMMUNITY CONCERNS AND HAVE A BROAD SPECTRUM OF VIEWPOINTS.

BEING REPRESENTED IS IMMENSELY IMPORTANT TO US.

ONE OF THE PRIMARY FOCUSES WILL BE TO REVIEW THE IN INDEPENDENT POLICE AUDITOR'S ANNUAL REPORT, AS WELL AS THE MILITARY EQUIPMENT REPORT, WHICH IS AN AGENDIZED ITEM ON THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT.

PROVIDE INPUT ON POLICE POLICIES, ASSISTANCE, DEVELOPMENT OF A NEW STRATEGIC PLAN.

WE'RE ABOUT TO, UH, CULMINATE OUR FIRST THREE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN, AND WE'LL BE IN THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING A NEW ONE FOR THE COMING YEARS AND MAKE SUGGESTIONS ON POLICE SERVICES AND PUBLIC SAFETY PROGRAMS AND INITIATIVES FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

LASTLY, IT'S TO ASSIST WITH EDUCATING THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THE FUNCTION AND THE ROLE OF THE PETALUMA POLICE DEPARTMENT.

WE OFTEN FIND, AND I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER POKAY CAN ATTEST TO IT, THAT THERE'S A LOT OF EDUCATION AND OUTREACH WHERE WE'RE MISSING AND THERE'S GAPS OF MISUNDERSTANDING OF WHAT PUBLIC SAFETY DOES, HOW THIS COMMUNITY SERVED, AND HOW THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CARRIES THEMSELVES THROUGH THAT SERVICE.

NEXT SLIDE.

UH, WE'RE MEETING MONTHLY ON THE FOURTH WEDNESDAY OF EACH MONTH AT SIX O'CLOCK HERE IN THE COUNCIL OF CHAMBER CHAMBERS.

AND JUST TO REAFFIRM AND MANAGE EXPECTATIONS, WE HAVE SOME EXPECTATIONS AND SOME RESPONSIBILITIES COME WITH SERVING IN THIS CAPACITY.

SO WE ASK THAT YOU TRY TO MAKE, UH, UM, YOUR ATTENDANCE HERE, UH, AT EVERY MEETING.

UM, WE UNDERSTAND THAT LIFE CAN HAPPEN AND PLEASE COMMUNICATE THAT TO MYSELF OR THE CLERK, BUT WE HOPE THAT YOU CAN GIVE YOUR BEST EFFORT TO BE HERE.

AND THAT WHEN YOU'RE ALSO HERE, THAT YOU'RE PARTICIPATING IN THE DIALOGUE BECAUSE THAT DIALOGUE IN THE DISCUSSION AND THE BROAD REPRESENTATION OF VIEWPOINTS IS, IS OF IMMENSE VALUE.

UH, WE AS A CITY HAVE CITY VALUES ON HOW WE TREAT ONE ANOTHER AND TREAT, UH, OUR MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.

AND WE ASK THAT YOU MODEL THOSE SAME BEHAVIORS AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF BEHALF OF THE CITY OF PETALUMA.

SO WE ASK THAT YOU TREAT EACH OTHER, UM, ON THE D EVEN IN DISAGREEMENT WITH DIGNITY AND RESPECT FOR ONE ANOTHER.

UM, WE WELCOME YOU TO ATTEND POLICE AND COMMUNITY EVENTS, NOT JUST WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT WITH THE BROADER CITY OF PETALUMA TEAM AS WELL, AND WELCOME YOU TO PARTICIPATE AND GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF OUR POLICE FUNCTIONS THROUGH PRACTICES LIKE RIDEALONGS, SIT ALONGS, ET CETERA.

UM, AND AGAIN, MEETINGS ARE MONTHLY.

THEY'RE SCHEDULED AT 90 MINUTES.

UM, AND WE HAVE JUST SELECTED OUR CHAIRPERSON CHAIR MILLER TONIGHT.

NEXT SLIDE HIGHLIGHTED.

WE REALLY WANTED YOU TO SEE THE HIGHLIGHTED PART.

UM, SO PART OF THIS TOO IS JUST KIND OF RIGHT SIZING OUR APPROACH.

WE HAVE A TON OF WORK THAT'S BEEN IN PROGRESS AND ONGOING AND IS, IS COMING TO AN END WITH, UM, NOT AN END, BUT, UM, COMING TO AN END OF AN ANNUAL REPORT PUBLICATION TIMELINE SUCH AS OUR MILITARY EQUIPMENT SUCH AS THE INDEPENDENT POLICE AUDITOR REPORT.

UM, WE HAVE AN ANNUAL DEPARTMENT REPORT EACH YEAR THAT HIGHLIGHTS WORK ACCOMPLISHMENTS, PROGRAMS, INITIATIVES THAT HAVE BEEN COM UM, COMPLETED.

OUR STRATEGIC PLAN, AS MENTIONED, HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR THREE YEAR AND IS CULMINATING AT THE END OF THIS YEAR.

AND WE ARE CONSTANTLY DEVELOPING AND WORKING ON POLICIES THAT WE WELCOME SUGGESTIONS ON PUBLIC SAFETY PROGRAMS AND INITIATIVES.

UM, YOU'LL ALSO BE HEARING LIKE, UH, FROM OUR COUNTERPARTS AT THE, UH, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TONIGHT, SPECIFIC TRAINING CENTRIC TO PUBLIC SAFETY MATTERS AND THE COMPLEXITIES OF LEGISLATION POLICIES AND LAWS RELATIVE TO PUBLIC SAFETY.

UM, AND WE WILL BE DELVING MUCH, MUCH DEEPER INTO THOSE AT, UH, AT FUTURE MEETINGS.

WE ALSO HOPE THAT THROUGH THIS, UM, TRAINING ORIENTATION ON EXISTING DOCUMENTATION AND POLICIES AND PROCEDURES, THAT THROUGH COMMUNITY EVENTS, OTHER SPECIALIZED TRAINING, THAT YOU'LL GET A BROAD EXPOSURE TO PUBLIC SAFETY AND SPECIFICALLY PUBLIC SAFETY HERE IN PETALUMA.

AND THAT CONCLUDES KIND OF THE HIGH LEVEL OF REALLY WHAT THIS COMMITTEE WAS FORMED FOR.

I ASK IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE MEMBERS ABOUT THEIR ROLE OR THE ROLE OF THIS COMMITTEE AT THIS TIME.

CHAIR MILLER, I HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING IF MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, SORRY, SORRY, I'M SPEAKING TO THE MICROPHONE.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

IF MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE ARE ALLOWED TO MEET OUTSIDE OF THIS, UM, COMMITTEE SETTING, LIKE IF WE WANTED TO GO HAVE COFFEE TOGETHER AND SORT OF DISCUSS THINGS IN A PRIVATE SETTING OR SORT OF OUTSIDE OF COUNCIL CHAMBER SETTINGS, IS THAT ALLOWED? THAT'S A VERY GREAT QUESTION.

I'M GONNA DEFER AND, UM, UH, LET OUR CITY ATTORNEYS ADDRESS THAT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE SPECIFIC TRAINING IN A SUBSEQUENT PRESENTATION ON THE BROWN

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ACT, WHICH COVERS, UM, THAT EXACT QUESTION AND WILL GIVE YOU GREATER GUIDANCE ON EXACTLY HOW YOU CAN OPERATE OUTSIDE OF THE MEETING SETTINGS.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

AND THEN IT'S, WE ARE LEARNING TWO.

SO AS A PRESENTATION ITEM, WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON EACH PRESENTATION, AND SO I AM GOING TO ASK THE CLERK IF WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS RELATED TO THIS PRESENTATION ITEM AT THIS TIME.

WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY COMMENTS PRIOR TO THIS MEETING RELATED TO THIS ITEM.

OKAY.

IF THE, ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC IN ATTENDANCE TONIGHT THAT WISH TO PROVIDE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS PRESENTATION ITEM? .

SEEING NONE.

OKAY.

I WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS PRESENTATION ITEM AND MOVE TO OUR NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

UH, SO AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE THE ITEM TITLED PRESENT AND INTRODUCE THE INDEPENDENT.

I SKIPPED OVER, WE'RE STILL IN PRESENTATIONS, RIGHT? YEAH.

APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

SO AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE'RE GONNA MOVE TO THE SECOND PRESENTATION ITEM, ITEM FOUR ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT TO PRESENT AND INTRODUCE THE INDEPENDENT POLICE AUDITOR OF PETALUMA INTEGRA.

AND I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE YOU TO JEFF SCHLANGER, THE PRINCIPAL FOR INTEGRAS.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

AND LET ME ADD MY CONGRATULATIONS TO EACH OF YOU.

THIS IS REALLY AN IMMENSELY IMPORTANT ROLE THAT YOU EACH ARE SERVING.

UM, AND I THINK AS TIME GOES ON, YOU'LL SEE HOW IMPORTANT IT IS.

UM, I'M ALWAYS HERE FOR YOU, UM, AND, UH, YOU WILL HAVE FUN, BUT THERE'LL BE SOME HARD WORK, UH, AS WELL.

SO, UM, AGAIN, MY NAME IS JEFF SCHLANGER.

UH, I, ALONG WITH MY COMPANY, INTERE, WERE CHOSEN AS THE INDEPENDENT POLICE AUDITOR.

IF WE CAN GO TO THE FIRST SLIDE.

UM, WITH ME TONIGHT IS DENISE LEWIS.

SHE SERVES ON THE TEAM.

UM, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE COME, UH, TO THIS ROLE.

UH, WE COME WITH A MODEL OF OVERSIGHT, WHICH IS, I THINK, SOMEWHAT NEW, UH, TO POLICING.

AND THAT IS A MODEL OF COLLABORATIVE OVERSIGHT.

AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS THAT WE WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENT TO MAKE THE DEPARTMENT ALL IT CAN BE.

UM, WE DO THAT THROUGH A, A METHODOLOGY, UH, THAT WE WON'T GET INTO DEEPLY TONIGHT.

UM, BUT IT IS NOT A GOTCHA METHODOLOGY.

IT'S NOT, UH, LOOKING AT A BODY-WORN CAMERA VIDEO AND SAYING, AHA, UH, WE CAUGHT YOU DOING SOMETHING WRONG.

IT IS A METHODOLOGY WHICH, UH, LOOKS AT A, AN INCIDENT THROUGH A 360 DEGREE, UH, LENS, AND ATTEMPTS TO MAKE EVERY POLICE OFFICER EVERYTHING THAT HE OR SHE CAN BE.

UH, WE DO THAT THROUGH A PHILOSOPHY OF COACHING AND MENTORING.

OBVIOUSLY, THERE ARE CASES WHEN DISCIPLINE IS NECESSARY AS WELL.

UM, BUT THE PRIMARY FOCUS IS COACHING AND, UH, MENTORING.

AND AGAIN, THROUGH THIS PROCESS, OFFICERS BECOME BETTER AT WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

UH, THEY ARE SAFER IN WHAT THEY DO AND THEIR WELLBEING IS TAKEN CARE OF AS, AS WELL.

AND WHEN THAT HAPPENS WITH EACH INDIVIDUAL OFFICER, UH, DERIVATIVELY, THE DEPARTMENT AS A WHOLE GETS BETTER.

THAT'S THE CONCEPT.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UM, I THINK EVERYBODY IS AWARE AND, UH, CLEARLY, UH, THIS COMMITTEE, UH, IS A, AN OUTGROWTH OF TURMOIL, UH, WHICH STRUCK NATIONWIDE RELATIVE TO POLICING IN THE WAKE OF THE, UH, GEORGE FLOYD INCIDENT.

UM, FORTUNATELY FOR PETALUMA, UH, THERE WAS NO CRITICAL INCIDENT HERE, UH, WHICH LED TO THE, THE FORMATION OF THE IPA POSSESSION OR, UH, THE POSITION, UH, THAT EACH OF YOU HOLDS.

BUT THERE WAS AN AD HOC COMMITTEE RECOGNIZING, UH, THAT SOMETHING, UH, SHOULD BE DONE TO ENSURE THAT THAT KIND OF CRITICAL INCIDENT DOESN'T HAPPEN HERE.

SO, UH, COMMENDABLY, UH, PETALUMA, UH, DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OVERSIGHT.

THE IPA SELECTED US, AND NOW HERE WE ARE WITH YOU.

UH, THE

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GOAL OF, UH, THIS OVERSIGHT IS TO MAKE SURE, UH, THAT POLICIES AND TRAINING, UH, REPRESENT BEST PRACTICE AND THAT OPERATIONAL INTEGRITY, UH, IS ACTUALLY BEING CARRIED OUT AS WELL.

WHAT DO I MEAN? OPERATIONAL INTEGRITY? IT MEANS THE POLICIES AND THE TRAINING WHICH WE LOOK AT AND MAKE SURE ARE IN FACT COMPORTING WITH BEST PRACTICE, ACTUALLY ARE BEING ACTED OUT IN THAT WAY ON THE STREETS OF PETALUMA.

UM, WHEN THAT HAPPENS, THERE IS A HEALTHY ECOSYSTEM WHICH DEVELOPS OF PUBLIC SAFETY, FAIRNESS, TRANSPARENCY, AND OFFICER WELLNESS.

UM, WE RECOGNIZE, AND I THINK THAT EACH OF YOU RECOGNIZES, UH, THAT OFFICERS COME TO THIS JOB.

THE VAST, VAST MAJORITY OF OFFICERS COME TO THIS JOB, UH, LOOKING TO DO THE RIGHT THING.

AND THEY IN TURN, LOOK TO, UH, THE COMMAND STRUCTURE OF THE DEPARTMENT TO TELL THEM HOW TO DO THE RIGHT THING.

AND WHAT WE ARE DOING IS HELPING IN THAT PROCESS.

UM, ONE THING THAT IS IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE AS WELL, I WOULD NOT CONSIDER, UH, OUR OVERSIGHT SUCCESSFUL IF IT IMPACTED ADVERSELY THE FIGHTING OF CRIME IN THIS CITY.

SO YOU NEED TO HAVE THAT BALANCE.

YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO FIGHT CRIME, BUT YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO DO IT PROFESSIONALLY AND OF COURSE, CONSTITUTIONALLY.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO HOW DO WE GO ABOUT OUR JOB? UM, WE DO A NUMBER OF THINGS AND, UH, I'LL GET INTO A, A FEW OF THEM IN DETAIL AND A FEW NOT, NOT SO MUCH DETAIL.

UH, THE FIRST THING WE DID DO, UH, I ALLUDED TO BEFORE, UH, WE DO WHAT WE CALL 360 DEGREE REVIEWS OF ALL USES OF FORCE, UH, THAT OCCUR IN THE CITY.

UM, WE DO A SIMILAR 360 DEGREE REVIEW OF ALL PURSUITS THAT HAVE OCCURRED IN THE CITY.

AND THEN WE REVIEW ALL COMPLAINTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE COMPLAINT INVESTIGATIONS ARE CONDUCTED IN AN APPROPRIATE FASHION.

WE HAVE FULL ACCESS, UH, TO BODY-WORN CAMERA, VIDEO, UNFETTERED ACCESS, IN FACT.

AND WE HAVE UNFETTERED ACCESS TO THE SYSTEM, WHICH, UH, CAPTURES THE INVESTIGATIONS INTO THESE KINDS OF INCIDENTS BY THE, UH, PPD.

AND THAT SYSTEM IS CALLED LEFT A AGAIN, WE REVIEW IN A 360 DEGREE WAY, WHICH MEANS THAT WE'RE NOT JUST LOOKING AT THE ACTUAL USE OF FORCE AT THE MOMENT THAT IT OCCURRED, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT EVERYTHING THAT LED UP TO IT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ENCOUNTER WAS CONSTITUTIONAL, TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS APPROPRIATE PRE-EVENT PLANNING, IF THAT, UH, UH, COULD HAPPEN.

AND WE LOOK AT EVERYTHING COLLATERAL TO IT.

WERE THE PROPER TACTICS EMPLOYED? WAS THERE ANY EQUIPMENT ISSUE? UH, WERE THE OFFICERS PROFESSIONAL? AND MOST OF ALL, UH, WE ASK IN EVERY CASE WHAT COULD HAVE POTENTIALLY BEEN DONE DIFFERENTLY TO HAVE ACHIEVED A BETTER OUTCOME.

AND THAT REALLY IS THE ESSENCE, UH, OF OUR PHILOSOPHY RELATIVE TO OVERSIGHT, THAT IT FOSTERS, UH, A PHILOSOPHY WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT OF CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT, AND THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT NO MATTER HOW GOOD WE ARE, WE CAN ALWAYS GET BETTER.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

IN ADDITION TO THE AREAS THAT I JUST MENTIONED, THE COMPLAINTS, THE PURSUITS, UH, AND THE USES OF FORCE, UH, WE REVIEW CRITICAL INCIDENTS.

FORTUNATELY, WE HAVE NONE OF THOSE, UH, YET IN OUR, UH, TENURE HERE, WE AUDIT DISCIPLINE.

UH, WE ARE MEANT TO, ALTHOUGH WE HAVEN'T YET BEGUN THIS MISSION OF DEVELOPING A MEDIATION PROGRAM BETWEEN COMMUNITY AND, UH, AND OFFICERS.

UH, AND WE WILL BE DOING THAT, UH, HOPEFULLY STARTING SOON.

UH, WE REVIEW BACKGROUND INVESTIGATIONS OF NEW APPLICANTS.

WE DO AUDITS OF TRAINING AND POLICY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE IN FACT, UH, CONSISTENT WITH BEST PRACTICE IN THE INDUSTRY.

AND OF COURSE, WE DO OUR ANNUAL REPORT, AND THAT'S OUR PUBLIC REPORTING FUNCTION.

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WE ALSO ARE CHARGED WITH A ROLE RELATIVE TO THIS BODY.

UM, WE DID ASSIST, UH, THE CITY WITH THE PLANNING AND IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PSAC.

UH, WE ARE GOING TO BE WORKING EXTREMELY CLOSELY WITH YOU AS A BODY AND, UH, EACH OF YOU AS MEMBERS, UH, TO ADDRESS POLICE COMMUNITY RELATIONS AND POLICIES AND PRACTICES.

AND IN FACT, IN, IN MANY WAYS, WE ARE GOING TO BE ASKING YOU TO SERVE AS A CONDUIT, UH, BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND, UH, THE IPA, UH, TO LET US KNOW IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.

OF COURSE, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WILL BE IN THAT MIX AS WELL.

UM, BUT WE'RE HERE TO, TO HEAR THAT FROM YOU.

UM, WE WILL ALSO SERVE AS A LAW ENFORCEMENT SUBJECT MATTER, UH, EXPERT FOR YOU ALL.

UH, AND WE WILL ASSIST IN THE PREPARATION OF YOUR ANNUAL REPORT.

AND, UH, TO SOME DEGREE WE WILL BE PROVIDING TRAINING, UH, TO YOU AS WELL.

SO THAT REALLY IS MY PRESENTATION.

AGAIN, LET ME CONGRATULATE YOU.

UH, IT'S A AN INTERESTING JOURNEY THAT YOU ARE EMBARKING ON AND, UH, I KNOW WORKING TOGETHER WE CAN MAKE PPD ALL IT CAN AND SHOULD BE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THAT, JEFF.

AND I WOULD OPEN IT TO MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE IPA.

GO AHEAD.

HI, JEFF.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING.

I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

UM, I WAS READING THE REPORT AND I HAD ONE QUESTION.

IT WAS UNDER THE AUDITS OF COMPLAINTS AND DISCIPLINE.

CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? NOT REALLY.

I HEARD YOU HAD ONE QUESTION.

I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION.

I WAS READING THE REPORT.

IT'S UNDER THE HEADING OF AUDITS OF COMPLAINTS AND DISCIPLINE.

IT SAYS, THE IPA REVIEWS OCCUR THROUGH A REVIEW OF SUMMARIES AND RECORDINGS OF WITNESS INTERVIEWS AFTER THEY HAVE BEEN CONDUCTED RATHER THAN THROUGH IN-PERSON ATTENDANCE OF INTERVIEWS AS THEY'RE CONDUCTED.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY IPA DOESN'T SORT OF PREFER TO INTERVIEW WITNESSES IN PERSON IN ORDER TO HEAR FIRSTHAND ANY SORT OF FEEDBACK OR THEIR RECOLLECTION OF EVENTS, AND INSTEAD ONLY SORT OF, UH, REVIEW THE SUMMARIES AND RECORDINGS AFTER THE FACT? AND SO, YEAH.

HEY, JEFF.

I I WOULD, UH, I WOULD JUST SAY THAT THE ONE THING, ITEM SEVEN, WE DELIVERED AND TRANSMITTED MULTIPLE ADDITIONAL REPORT REPORTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY PUBLICLY AVAILABLE.

AND I THINK THAT THAT QUESTION IS A WONDERFUL QUESTION THAT WE INTEND TO HAVE ADDRESSED SPECIFICALLY WHEN WE AGENDIZE THE ACTUAL IPA REPORT.

AND SO WE CAN DEDICATE, BECAUSE I IMAGINE THERE'S GONNA BE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS MUCH LIKE THAT, WHERE I THINK WE ENVISION GIVING AN ENTIRE MEETING COMMITTED TO JUST THE IPA REPORT.

SO I DON'T WANNA STEP ON THE QUESTION AS POSED, BUT I ANTICIPATE THAT JEFF IS GOING TO HAVE A, A ROBUST RESPONSE, WHICH WILL ALSO PROBABLY PROMPT OTHER SIMILAR QUESTIONS.

BUT I THINK IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION MORE SPECIFIC ABOUT THEIR ROLE AND PURPOSE AS A POLICE AUDITOR, THAT WAS OUR INTENT IN THE INTRODUCTION FROM THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT WITH THE COMMITMENT IN THAT TRANSMITTAL OF THE OTHER LATER AGENDIZED ITEM TO BRING IT BACK FORMALLY FOR A COMPREHENSIVE, HOLISTIC DISCUSSION, IF THAT'S ACCEPTABLE.

YEAH, I, I, I THINK THE SHORT ANSWER TO THE QUESTION IS THAT OUR ROLE IS DEFINED BY ENABLING LEGISLATION.

UM, AND THAT IS NOT THE ROLE THAT'S, UH, THAT'S MEANT FOR US.

UM, A ROLE SIMILAR TO THAT WHICH YOU'RE CONCEIVING OF TAKES PLACE IN CRITICAL INCIDENTS, UH, BUT NOT IN ORDINARY COMPLAINTS.

THANK YOU.

THANKS.

I APPRECIATE THE ANSWER.

SURE.

APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

AND, AND ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, UH, SPECIFIC TO THE PRESENTATION AND THE INTRODUCTION OF THE IPA? THANK YOU.

UH, I WILL NOW OPEN PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS PRESENT PRESENTATION ITEM AND ASK IF THERE'S SPEAKERS IN ATTENDANCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO BRING THEIR SPEAKERS CARDS TO THE CLERK'S DESK IF THEY HAVEN'T ALREADY DONE SO.

MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING IN PERSON SHOULD BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARDS TO THE CLERK'S DESK IF THEY HAVE NOT ALREADY DONE SO.

SPEAKERS ARE REMINDED TO BE RESPECTFUL IN THEIR COMMENTS.

THREATS OF VIOLENCE AND OBSCENITY ARE GROUNDS FOR REMOVAL FROM THIS MEETING.

UM, AN A COUNTDOWN WILL APPEAR FOR THE CONVENIENCE OF THE SPEAKER AND VIEWERS.

THE FIRST SPEAKER WILL BE ACKNOWLEDGED AND INVITED TO SPEAK WHEN THE COUNTDOWN BEGINS.

DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? THERE ARE NO, UH, PREVIOUS PUBLIC COMMENTS AND SEEING NO ONE ADDRESS THE PODIUM FOR A PUBLIC COMMENT, I'M GONNA CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS PRESENTATION ITEM AND MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM.

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ALRIGHT.

AND SO FOR OUR NEXT ITEM, WE'LL BE ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE, UM, WHICH IS TO RECEIVE AND PRESENTATION ON THE BROWN ACT, WHICH WILL BE PROVIDED BY OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TONIGHT.

THANK YOU, CHIEF.

UM, KATE, IF YOU COULD BRING UP THE SLIDES, THAT'D BE LOVELY.

UM, AND AS YOU DO A COUPLE INTRODUCTORY, UM, ITEMS I WANTED TO MENTION, UM, OUR OFFICE AND I, AS THE CITY ATTORNEY ARE, UM, THIS IS A PROUD MOMENT FOR US TOO, UM, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN A PART OF THIS PROCESS, UM, AS HAVE SOME OF YOU AND AS HAD MANY OTHER CITY STAFF MEMBERS IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

AND NOW THE IPA, UM, TO WHAT I WOULD DESCRIBE AS, UM, ENHANCE AND OPEN DOORS AND WINDOWS TO, UM, A CIVILIAN, UM, PUBLIC SAFETY PROCESS THAT WE'VE ALREADY BEEN OPERATING IN PETALUMA THAT WE'RE VERY PROUD OF, UM, AND, AND ENHANCE OUR EAGERNESS TO OPEN THE DOORS AND WINDOWS TO IT.

UM, THAT INVOLVES, UM, AND HAS INVOLVED AND CONTINUES TO INVOLVE, UH, CLOSE, UM, COOPERATION AND TEAMWORK BETWEEN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BETWEEN THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, UM, BETWEEN THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, UM, AND INFORMATION TO THE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC.

AND NOW THE IPA IN AS A, AS A TRUE PARTNER, INTEGRATED WITH THAT PROCESS WITH US, UM, PROVIDING WHAT I'M GONNA CHARACTERIZE AND YOU'LL LEARN MORE ABOUT IT SOUNDS LIKE, AS A FULL AGENDA ITEM TO GO THROUGH THE REPORT.

IS THAT RIGHT, CHIEF? YEAH, THAT WOULD BE CORRECT.

EXCELLENT.

WE'LL START WITH THE MILITARY EQUIPMENT TONIGHT, AND WE'LL PROVIDE CONTEXT OF WHY, AND THEN LATER MEETINGS AND SUBSEQUENT, WE'LL HAVE EACH REPORT, UH, HOPEFULLY AGENDIZED ON EACH OF A MONTHLY MEETING, BECAUSE BY DOING THAT, I THINK THAT'S GONNA START IMMERSING THE COMMITTEE, UM, IN HOW WE ADDRESS THE PUBLIC SAFETY NEEDS OF THE PETALUMA COMMUNITY AS A TEAM, UM, THAT YOU'RE JOINING TOO, WHICH WE'RE EXCITED TO HAVE HAPPENED TONIGHT.

UM, SO, AND, AND THE, THE REMARKS I'M GONNA SHARE WITH YOU TONIGHT, UM, ARE RATHER PROCEDURAL.

THEY'RE ABOUT THE TRANSPARENCY PART OF WHAT WE DO AND WHAT YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE REQUIRED TO DO, UM, AS, AS APPOINTEES, AS AS PETALUMA PUBLIC OFFICIALS.

UM, UH, BUT THEY'RE JUST A PART OF THE TRANSPARENCY FUNCTION THAT WE, UM, ARE COMMITTED TO, TO SERVING IN THIS PROCESS.

AND AS THE, AS THE CITY'S, UM, GOVERNMENT GENERALLY.

UM, IN A SUBSEQUENT MEETING, MY COLLEAGUE JORDAN GREEN IN, IN OUR OFFICE, WHO'S GONNA BE THE PER, YOU'LL SEE ME ON OCCASION, BUT JORDAN IS GONNA BE PERMANENTLY STAFFING THESE MEETINGS OF YOURS FOR OUR OFFICE, UM, ALONG WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

UM, AND SHE'S OUR, SORT OF THE ME MAIN LIAISON IN OUR OFFICE WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, EVEN, EVEN THOUGH WE ALL AS A TEAM MEET, UM, REGULARLY WITH THE, WITH THE PD.

UM, AND WHAT I'M GONNA REFER TO, UM, AS SOME KEY GUIDING PRINCIPLES ABOUT WHAT WE, WHAT WE DO W WITH OUR PUBLIC SAFETY FUNCTION REALLY COMES FROM NOT THE BROWN ACT THAT I'M GONNA BE TALKING TO YOU ABOUT TONIGHT, BUT FROM THE PUBLIC RECORDS ACT.

UM, THE PUBLIC RECORDS ACT IS OUR INFORMATIONAL TRANSPARENCY LAW.

THE BROWN ACT IS OUR MEETING TRANSPARENCY LAW, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT.

BUT THOSE PRINCIPLES I WANNA REFER TO YOU ARE PRIVACY, TRANSPARENCY, AND EFFECTIVENESS.

THOSE ARE THE THREE THINGS THAT THE PUBLIC RECORDS ACT BALANCES.

UM, AND TO SOME EXTENT, SO DOES THE BROWN ACT.

UM, PRIVACY IS INDIVIDUAL PRIVACY, UM, BECAUSE AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW ALREADY, AND AS YOU WILL LEARN IN THE COURSE OF FULFILLING YOUR DUTIES, THE DAYS, UNFORTUNATELY, THE DAYS WHEN OUR, OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS, UM, ARE INVOLVED WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT ARE SOME OF THE WORST DAYS THEY HAVE.

UM, AND THOSE, THOSE EXPERIENCES TRIGGER VERY SIGNIFICANT PRIVACY RIGHTS THAT THEY HAVE.

UM, AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE RESPECT THEM 'CAUSE WE HAVE A LEGAL DUTY TOO.

AND BECAUSE IT'S THE HUMANE WAY TO PROVIDE PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES, AND IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE COHESION OF OUR COMMUNITY.

SO, UM, AND SO, SO THAT'S A FEATURE OF HOW WE CARRY OUT OUR PUBLIC SAFETY RESPONSIBILITIES AND TRANSPARENCY SUCH AS THROUGH THE BROWN ACT, SUCH AS THROUGH THE PUBLIC RECORDS ACT, RECORDS ACCESS, MEETING ACCESS FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, UM, UM, THAT'S A CORE, IF

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NOT THE CORE FUNCTION OF THE, THE PEACE ACT.

UM, AND SORT OF BEING OUR COMMUNITY LEADERS ENGAGING WITH OUR PUBLIC SAFETY FUNCTIONS, UM, AS LIAISONS WITH THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY.

UM, AND THEN THE LAST PRINCIPLE, WHICH IS SOMETIMES OVERLOOKED, BUT NOT BY THE OUR PUBLIC THAT WE SERVE, IS EFFECTIVENESS.

'CAUSE NO MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC AND NO LAW EVER SAID, MERELY BY BEING TRANSPARENT, UM, IS THAT SUFFICIENT FOR THE FULFILLMENT OF OUR DUTIES? BECAUSE AS YOU HEARD FROM JEFF, AS YOU'LL LEARN FROM FROM FROM BRIAN AND THE REST OF THE, UM, PETALUMA POLICE DEPARTMENT TEAM, WE HAVE VERY IMPORTANT JOBS TO DO THAT WE NEED TO CARRY OUT WITH EXTREME EFFECTIVENESS.

AND TRANSPARENCY DOESN'T EXCUSE THOSE.

AND SO WE HAVE TO DO ALL THREE OF THESE THINGS, UM, WITH REALLY RESPECT TO EVERYTHING WE DO.

AND YOU'LL SEE, UM, AND HEAR MORE ABOUT, UM, HOW, HOW THOSE DUTIES PLAY OUT WITH RESPECT TO PET PETALUMA PUBLIC SAFETY.

UM, AND IN PARTICULAR, JORDAN, IN A SUBSEQUENT MEETING IS GONNA REVIEW THE RECORDS ELEMENT OF THAT.

UM, AND SOME PRETTY CAREFUL CHOREOGRAPHY.

WE NAV NAVIGATE TO ENSURE SUCH THINGS AS, UM, ACCOUNTABLE POLICING, UM, VICTIM PRIVACY, UM, EFFECTIVE PROSECUTIONS, UM, ALL AT THE SAME TIME.

SO, UM, YOU'RE ABOUT TO BE GAINING A LOT OF EXPERTISE ON THESE THINGS THAT WILL SERVE YOU WELL, I THINK, IN CARRYING OUT YOUR DUTIES, UM, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ENABLING LEGISLATION THAT CREATED YOUR BODY THAT, THAT OUR CHIEF, UM, REVIEWED WITH YOU.

SO WITH THAT AS THE INTRO, UM, LET'S GET GOING ON ON SOME, UM, KEY ASPECTS OF THE BROWN ACT THAT WILL HELP YOU BE SUCCESSFUL IN YOUR ROLES.

THIS IS, UM, A LARGE PRESENTATION, MUCH OF WI WHICH I'M GONNA ZOOM THROUGH, BUT WE ARE GONNA SHARE WITH YOU THE, THIS, THIS FULL PRESENTATION SO YOU HAVE IT AS A REFERENCE, UM, INCLUDING THE NOTES VERSIONS, WHICH IS OUR OWN PRESENTER CHEAT SHEET.

SO, SO YOU HAVE THAT TOO.

UM, UM, STILL YOU SHOULD FEEL FREE THROUGH, THROUGH JORDAN AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO LET US KNOW WHEN YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.

'CAUSE WE'LL BE WANNA ADDRESS THOSE.

UM, I'M GONNA FOCUS ON WHAT I THINK ARE SOME OF THE KEY THINGS TO HELP YOU BE EFFECTIVE.

AND I THINK HOPEFULLY CREATE SOME AWARENESS FOR YOU ABOUT SOME OF THE RULES THAT THAT APPLY TO YOUR CARRYING OUT YOUR DUTIES IN CASE YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.

AND WE'LL BE GLAD TO ADDRESS THOSE.

SO, MR. DAM, SORRY, BEFORE YOU GET STARTED.

SURE.

SO YOU'RE GONNA GIVE US AN APPETIZER TONIGHT, BUT NEXT WEDNESDAY THERE'S A FULL BROWN ACT TRAINING, RIGHT? THERE IS, THERE IS.

SO, AND YOU'RE WELCOME.

AND THAT'S FOR ALL THE SUBORDINATE BODIES.

SO YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME TO THAT TOO .

SO THANK YOU.

AND THAT, AND THAT AND THAT WAY, UM, WITH A CLEAR CONSCIENCE.

I CAN SKIP OVER A BUNCH OF THINGS TONIGHT.

UM, SO THE BROWN ACT, UM, WAS CREATED IN 1953.

AND WHAT IT REALLY DID AWAY WITH WAS THE SORT OF SMOKE-FILLED BACKROOM WHERE A LOT OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT BUSINESS DECISIONS WERE MADE.

THEY'RE NO LONGER MADE THERE.

COULD WE HAVE THE NEXT SLIDE? AND SO WHAT I'LL SAY JUST STRUCTURALLY ABOUT THE, THE BROWN ACT IS IT'S WHAT WE CALL A DEFINITIONALLY FOCUSED LAW.

THERE ARE THESE KEY DEFINITIONS, AND ONCE YOU UNDERSTAND THEM AND THEIR SCOPE, REALLY, YOU UNDERSTAND THE LAW PRETTY WELL.

SO THE, THE, THE DUTY SECTION OF THE CODE SAYS ALL MEETINGS OF THE LEGISLATIVE BODY OF A LOCAL AGENCY SHALL BE OPEN AND PUBLIC, AND ALL PERSONS SHALL BE PERMITTED TO ATTEND ANY MEETING OF THE LEGISLATIVE BODY OF A LOCAL AGENCY.

AND THAT'S REALLY THE BROWN ACT IN A NUTSHELL WHERE A LOT OF THE DETAILS COME IN AS THE PROCEDURAL REQUIREMENTS AND THE DEFINITION OF MEETINGS, THE DEFINITION OF LEGISLATIVE BODY, AND THE DEFINITION OF OPEN AND PUBLIC.

SO THAT'S, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT FOR THE SAKE OF YOUR, YOUR STRUCTURAL UNDERSTANDING.

AND THEN WE'RE JUST GONNA TALK, I THINK ABOUT THE THINGS THAT'LL BE MOST USEFUL TO YOU.

AND THAT IS THINGS LIKE SERIAL MEETINGS AND CONTEXT YOU CAN HAVE WITH EACH OTHER AND NOT AWAY FROM THE DESK, LIKE, LIKE, LIKE THE CHAIR'S QUESTION TONIGHT.

SO NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO WE'RE GONNA COVER WHAT A MEETING IS, WHAT A LEGISLATIVE BODY MEETINGS AND, AND SOME OF THE KEY RULES.

UM, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA GO SPEND MUCH TIME ON MEETING DISRUPTIONS AND OR REMEDIES, BUT WE'LL LET YOU KNOW THAT THOSE ARE PARTS OF THE LAW.

UM, AND THINGS THAT WE CAN ADDRESS IF NEED BE JORDAN, AND THE REST OF THE TEAM WILL BE TO ADHERE TO SUPPORT YOU, UM, IF MEETING DISRUPTIONS OCCUR, WHICH HOPEFULLY THEY WILL NOT.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO WHO'S SUBJECT TO THE BROWN ACT? WHAT IS, WHAT DOES IT COVER? NEXT SLIDE.

IT COVERS LEGISLATIVE BODIES OF WHICH YOU ARE ONE.

UM, AND THERE ARE SOME EXCEPTIONS FOR SUBCOMMITTEES OF A LEGISLATIVE BODY, UM, THAT MEET

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THE REQUIREMENTS, UM, THAT DON'T HAVE TO HAVE CONDUCT THEIR BUSINESS IN A PUBLIC SETTING.

BUT, UM, IF THAT ARISES, WE CAN ADDRESS THAT WITH YOU IF YOU END UP CREATING SUBCOMMITTEES.

UM, BUT, BUT FOR BROWN EYE PURPOSES, THIS BODY IS CONSIDERED A LEGISLATIVE BODY, JUST LIKE THE CITY COUNCIL IS, EVEN THOUGH YOU SERVE AT THEIR PLEASURE AND ONLY HAVE A VERY SMALL SUBSET OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES, UM, THAT THEY WIELD AS THE CITY'S UM, GOVERNING BODY.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO WHAT'S A MEETING THAT'S SUBJECT TO THE BROWN ACT? NEXT SLIDE.

SO IT'S WHEN A MAJORITY OF A LEGISLATIVE BODY SUCH AS YOURSELVES AS THE COMMITTEE MEET COLLECTIVELY.

AND IT DOESN'T REALLY ACTUALLY HAVE TO BE IN THE SAME TIME AND PLACE AS YOU'LL SEE, BUT IT IS WHEN YOU HAVE THESE PUBLIC MEETINGS AND THEY DO SO TO HEAR, DISCUSS AND DELIBERATE ON BUSINESS, UM, THAT THEY HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO ENGAGE IN WHICH YOU JUST HEARD A SUMMARY OF IT'S IN YOUR ENABLING LEGISLATION.

UM, UM, AND THAT ALSO DEFINES THE SCOPE OF WHAT YOUR SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION IS.

IN OTHER WORDS, WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO ENGAGE IN ON BEHALF OF THE CITY? NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO WHAT'S NOT A MEETING? NEXT SLIDE.

INDIVIDUAL CONTACTS.

SO AS, AS NEWLY MINTED PETALUMA PUBLIC OFFICIALS AS, UM, OCCURS WITH OUR OTHER PUBLIC OFFICIALS, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE GONNA WANNA SEEK YOU OUT AND ENGAGE WITH YOU TO LEARN ABOUT WHAT IT IS YOU DO ON BEHALF OF THE CITY TO GIVE YOU INPUT TO CARRY OUT YOUR DUTIES.

THAT'S NOT ONLY OKAY, BUT EXPECTED IN YOUR ROLES.

UM, SO INDIVIDUAL CONTACTS IS, IS PERFECTLY FINE.

NEXT SLIDE.

CONFERENCES AND SEMINARS.

IT MAY BE THAT, UM, WE, AND WE JUST TALKED ABOUT HOW WE'RE GONNA BE DOING SOME TRAINING TO HELP YOU BE SUCCESSFUL IN YOUR ROLES LOCALLY.

IT MAY BE THAT YOU ATTEND OTHER FORMAL CONFERENCES AND SEMINARS IN YOUR CAPACITY AS COMMITTEE MEMBERS PERFECTLY.

OKAY? AND YOU CAN DO THAT.

THE ENTIRE BODY CAN DO THAT.

UM, AS LONG AS YOU DON'T SIT AMONGST YOURSELVES AND DISCUSS BUSINESS AMONGST YOURSELVES, UM, OTHER THAN AS PART OF THE PROGRAM.

AND, AND WHY THAT IS BE THAT IS SO, UM, AS YOU'LL SEE, THE PUBLIC GETS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE ITS BUSINESS BEING CONDUCTED BY, ITS BY ITS LEGISLATIVE BODIES AND TO PARTICIPATE.

'CAUSE WHEN IT'S DONE IN SECRET, THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T GET TO FULFILL THOSE OVERSIGHT FUNCTIONS, UM, OF THE PUBLIC.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

COMMUNITY ME MEETINGS.

THE SAME APPLIES.

UM, YOU CAN ATTEND, BUT YOU SHOULDN'T DISCUSS, CONDUCT YOUR BUSINESS SEPARATELY AT THOSE FUNCTIONS.

UM, AND THAT WAY YOU, THAT HELPS YOU IN PLAYING YOUR ROLES BECAUSE THERE'LL BE POLICE, OPEN HOUSE NIGHTS, ET CETERA, THAT YOU'LL BE INVOLVED IN AS A COMMITTEE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SOCIAL EVENTS TWO.

UM, AS LONG AS COMMITTEE BUSINESS DOESN'T HAPPEN AT THOSE, UM, BECAUSE THE PUBLIC WOULDN'T HAVE HAD NOTICE THAT IT WOULD BE, UM, YOU CAN ATTEND THOSE AS A BODY.

NEXT SLIDE.

UM, I'M GONNA SKIP THAT ONE BECAUSE IT'S A, IT'S A TECHNICAL RULE, BUT IF THAT COMES UP, JORDAN CAN HELP, HELP DIS HELP, HELP ADVISE YOU ABOUT THAT.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

OKAY.

SO THIS I WANT TO PROVIDE SOME FOCUS ON.

SO, UM, BECAUSE THE PURPOSE OF THE BROWN ACT IS TO ENSURE THAT THE PUBLIC'S BUSINESS IS DONE IN THE PUBLIC EYE SO THAT THEY CAN OVERSEE THAT AND PARTICIPATE IN THAT.

UM, UM, THERE ARE RULES ABOUT, UM, INVOLVEMENT OF THE COMMITTEE WITH, WITH ITS WITH ITS MEMBERS AND WITH STAFF TO, TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC'S RIGHTS ARE, ARE, ARE PROTECTED.

SO IT'S NOT OKAY, IT'S NOT PERMITTED FOR THERE TO BE COLLECTIVE BRIEFING OF THIS BODY WITH TWO-WAY COMMUNICATION.

UM, WHERE MORE THAN A QUORUM OF THE COMMITTEE IS INVOLVED.

MEANING SINCE YOU'RE A SEVEN MEMBER BODY, FOUR MEMBERS OR MORE, UM, YOU CAN HAVE RETREATS.

UM, SAME, SAME THING.

BECAUSE WHAT THAT REALLY IS A SECRET MEETING THAT THE PUBLIC HASN'T BEEN INVITED TO.

WHY? BECAUSE A MAJORITY OF YOU IS, IS ENGAGING WITH YOUR COMMITTEE BUSINESS AWAY FROM THE PUBLIC.

AND THE SAME IS TRUE WITH SERIAL MEETINGS.

AND I THINK THE NEXT SLIDE WILL PROVIDE SOME MORE DETAIL ABOUT THOSE.

'CAUSE I WANNA COVER THOSE.

YES.

THANKS.

SO SERIAL MEETINGS REFER BACK TO WHEN, I REMEMBER WHEN I SAID, UM, THE, THE FOCUS OF THE BROWN NECK IS ON GATHERINGS OF THIS BODY MORE THAN A, A QUORUM OR MORE, WHICH IS FOUR OR MORE.

UM, WHICH IS THE MINIMUM NUMBER OF YOU WHICH TAKE, WHICH IT TAKES TO DO, TO DO A COMMITTEE MEETING OR TO TO ACT AS AS A COMMITTEE.

UM, THE, THE RULE TALKED ABOUT THEM BEING IN THE SAME PLACE IN THE SAME TIME.

IT CAN ALSO BE THE CASE THAT THEY'RE NOT IN THE SAME PLACE IN THE SAME TIME, BUT STILL VIOLATING THE LOSS.

SO THOSE TWO EXAMPLES OF SERIAL MEETINGS, ONE IS WHERE

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COMMITTEE MEMBER A SPEAKS TO COMMITTEE MEMBER B SEEKS COMMITTEE MEMBER C.

AND THEN WHEN I GET, AND WHEN, THEN WHEN THEY GET TO COMMITTEE MEMBER D FOR THIS BODY THAT'S FOUR, THAT'S A QUORUM.

THAT IS A BROWN ACT VIOLATION AND A SERIAL MEETING OF THE DAISY CHAIN TYPE, IF YOU CARE WHAT TYPE.

UM, BECAUSE WHAT'S HAPPENED IS THEY'VE SHARED INFORMATION ABOUT COMMITTEE BUSINESS AWAY FROM THE PUBLIC SUCH THAT A MAJORITY OF THE COMMITTEE NOW KNOWS WHAT EACH OTHER THINKS ON, ON PART OF, ON A TOPIC.

AND ONE OF MY RULES OF THUMB, AND I THINK THIS IS HELPFUL FOR YOU TOO, IS IF THERE'S BEEN CONTACTS AMONG COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT IT OF, OF SUCH A NATURE THAT THEY OBVIATE THE NEED FOR A PUBLIC MEETING ON A TOPIC.

'CAUSE NOW YOU KNOW WHAT A MAJORITY OF COLLEAGUES THINK YOU'VE PROBABLY VIOLATED THE BROWN ACT, RIGHT? THAT'S A GOOD RULE OF THUMB.

SO, AND THE OTHER VERSION, THE HUB AND SPOKE ONE IS ONES THAT TYPICALLY INVOLVE STAFF WHERE A STAFF MEMBER IS FACILITATING A TWO-WAY CONVERSATION AMONG A MAJORITY OF YOU.

SO ONE THING, IT'S PERFECTLY OKAY.

AND YOU'LL RECEIVE IN THE COURSE OF YOUR SERVICE, ALL KINDS OF STAFF BREEDING BRIEFINGS THAT ALL OF YOU RECEIVE AT THE SAME TIME.

LIKE A MEMO, AN UPDATE, A REPORT PERFECTLY, OKAY? WHAT'S NOT OKAY IS TWO-WAY COMMUNICATION AWAY FROM THIS PUBLIC SETTING WHERE STAFF KNOW AND ARE FACILITATING OTHERS OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT EACH OF YOU, WHAT, WHAT AT LEAST A MAJORITY OF YOU THINK ON A TOPIC.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE HUB AND SPOKE VERSION.

THAT'S WHERE, UM, STAFF MEMBER SPEAKS TO, UM, COMMITTEE MEMBER A, B, C.

WHEN THEY GET TO D AND THERE'S BACK AND FORTH COMMUNICATION AND THEY'RE SHARING WHAT THE OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBERS SAID.

OH, COMMITTEE MEMBER C WON'T SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE OF THEIR VIEW ON THIS, THEN, THEN THEY FACILITATED A SECRET MEETING.

SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS YOU NEED TO AVOID.

AND THIS GOES BACK TO CHAIR MILLER'S QUESTION ABOUT, WELL WHAT ABOUT OUR CONTACTS WITH EACH OTHER AWAY FROM PUBLIC MEETINGS? SO YOU CAN MEET WITH ONE OR TWO OF YOUR FELLOW COMMITTEE MEMBERS AWAY FROM A PUBLIC MEETING PERFECTLY.

OKAY? YOU CAN TOGETHER WITH YOUR FELLOW COMMITTEE MEMBERS ATTEND ONE OF THOSE FORMAL TRAININGS OR OTHER COMMUNITY ME EVENTS, AS LONG AS YOU DON'T CONDUCT, UM, COMMITTEE BUSINESS THERE ALSO PERFECTLY.

OKAY.

UM, AND COUNCIL MEMBERS DO IT ALL THE TIME.

THEY HAVE TO BECAUSE THEY BOUNCE IDEAS OFF EACH OTHER.

IT'S PART OF THEIR BEING PRODUCTIVE.

UM, BUT WHAT YOU, WHAT I ENCOURAGE YOU TO BE MINDFUL OF IS IF YOU MEET WITH A COUPLE OF YOUR COLLEAGUES ON A TOPIC TO NOT BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING, MEET WITH A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT COLLEAGUES ON THE SAME TOPIC BECAUSE THEN YOU'VE, YOU'VE DONE ONE OF THOSE, THOSE VIOLATIONS.

OKAY? SO, SO THE TRICK FOR YOU IS TO, UM, HAVE GOOD RELATIONS WITH YOUR COLLEAGUES AND HAVE GOOD COMMUNICATIONS WITH THEM.

DO USE EACH OTHER TO BOUNCE IDEAS OFF EACH OTHER, BUT, UM, NOT SUCH THAT YOU'VE DONE THAT WITH A MAJORITY OF YOUR COLLEAGUES AWAY FROM THE PUBLIC SETTING.

AND ALSO TO BE ACCESSIBLE TO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.

UM, UM, THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE.

YES.

IS THERE ANY OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE CLOSED SESSIONS JUST IN CASE THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE ALL WANTED TO DISCUSS, BUT NO.

OKAY.

THE NO.

AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT WHEN WE GET TO THAT AND WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT IT A WEEK FROM NOW.

UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S, UM, I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA BE POSSIBLE AND I DON'T ANTICIPATE IT A CIRCUMSTANCE UNDER WHICH THIS BODY WOULD EVER HAVE A CLOSED SESSION.

AND YOU'LL SEE WHY WHEN WE, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE LEGITIMATE TOPICS FOR CLOSED SESSION DISCUSSION.

AND YOU'LL ALSO UNDERSTAND BETTER WHY WHEN JORDAN TALKS ABOUT THE RECORDS ISSUES AND THE NAVIGATION OF THESE, THESE SOMETIMES COMPETING BUT EQUALLY IMPORTANT ISSUES OF PRIVACY AND EFFECTIVENESS AND TRANSPARENCY.

'CAUSE THERE'S, THIS IS THE AREA OF OF, OF CITY BUSINESS, THE PUBLIC SAFETY WHERE THOSE THINGS REALLY COME TO A HEAD AND WE HAVE TO NAVIGATE 'EM SUCCESSFULLY.

WHAT, OH, I'M SORRY ERIC, JUST STRUCTURALLY WISE, I WOULD DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO HIM, BUT IT'S MORE AS A FORMAT.

SO WHEN AND HOW IS HE GONNA BE DOING, HOW CAN I SUPPORT HIM? BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A SUBJECT MATTER TO BE DISCUSSED.

OH, OKAY.

OR A PROCEDURAL.

WELL, UM, I, THE BROWN ACT DOESN'T MAKE A DISTINCTION BETWEEN MORAL SUPPORT AND SUBSTANTIVE SUPPORT.

AND I THINK IT'S PROBABLY SAFEST.

UM, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO NEED LOTS OF BOTH FROM EACH OTHER AND FROM STAFF IN THE COMMUNITY, JUST LIKE THE COUNCIL MEMBERS DO AND THE OTHER SUBORDINATE BODY MEMBERS DO.

BUT, UM,

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I'M GONNA TREAT AND I THINK IT'S BEST IF YOU TREAT MORAL SUPPORT AS COMMITTEE BUSINESS.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, IF IF THERE ARE FINER VERSIONS OF THAT, WE CAN, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT.

BUT, UM, GO AHEAD ERIC.

I THINK TO CLARIFY, I THINK MR. VERDE'S ASKING ABOUT COORDINATION AS CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR ON HOW DO THEY WORK TOGETHER TO NAVIGATE THE MEETINGS.

OH, SO IS THAT CORRECT, SIR? OKAY.

THAT IS, THANK YOU.

MY SPANISH GONE ON THE WAY.

THAT'S OKAY.

I'M SORRY.

UM, STAFF WILL HELP YOU FACILITATE MEETING MANAGEMENT SO THAT, 'CAUSE THERE'S GONNA BE SOME PLANNING INVOLVED IN GETTING THE AGENDAS READY AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PRACTICE IS GONNA BE FOR THIS COMMITTEE.

THERE ARE DIFFERENT ONES THAT HAS YET TO BE DETERMINED.

YEAH, I THINK, I THINK MY, THE PLAN IS THAT I WILL BE REACHING OUT TO THE CHAIR AND THE VICE CHAIR AND KIND OF WALKING YOU THROUGH ON WHAT THE ANNOTATED AGENDA FOR THE NIGHT WILL BE IN ADVANCE OF THAT.

AND WE CAN IDENTIFY THE PROCESS AND GIVE YOU THE SCRIPT AND WE, WE WILL COORDINATE THAT.

BUT YOU'LL ALSO BE WORKING WITH CITY STAFF IN THAT OUTSIDE.

AND IT'S ALSO NOT SPECIFIC TO AN AGENDIZED ITEM.

THAT'S FOR, FOR THE BUSINESS OF THE MEETING.

AND BECAUSE THOSE COMMUNICATIONS WILL BY DEFINITION BE WITH A MINORITY OF THIS BODY, THAT'S NOT GONNA BE A BROWN ACT PROBLEM.

AND ALSO BY DEFINITION, THE THINGS YOU TALK ABOUT ARE GONNA COME BACK IN THE PUBLIC SETTING.

KIND OF LIKE THIS IS SIMILAR TO, WE'LL, WE'LL COVER THIS EXCEPTION, THIS IS SIMILAR TO, UM, DURING COUNCIL MEMBER REPORTS, A COUNCIL MEMBER MEETING.

SOMETIMES A MEMBER OR MEMBERS WILL SUGGEST A TOPIC, A FUTURE AGENDA TOPIC.

THAT'S OKAY.

WHY? BECAUSE IT'S GONNA COME BACK AND THE PUBLIC'S GONNA GET TO SEE IT DELIBERATED UPON AND PARTICIPATE, UM, LATER.

UM, SO SORRY I DIDN'T ANSWER YOUR QUESTION RIGHT FIRST, BUT THANK YOU.

UM, COMMITTEE MEMBER KEARNEY.

OKAY, LET'S MOVE, LET'S ZOOM THROUGH.

WE GOT A LOT TO COVER.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO, UM, THAT'S THE STAFF BRIEFING WE TALKED ABOUT.

YOU GET ONE WAY COMMUNICATION, BUT WE DON'T GET TO HAVE TWO WAY COMMUNICATION WITH A MAJORITY OF THE BODY AWAY FROM THE PUBLIC MEETINGS.

SO, UM, IT IS POSSIBLE TO PARTICIPATE BY TELECONFERENCE IN, IN, UM, THESE MEETINGS.

IT REQUIRES ADVANCED PLANNING BECAUSE THE TRADITIONAL WAY OF DOING THAT REQUIRES US TO POST THE AGENDA, UM, FOR THE MEETING IN THE REMOTE LOCATION FROM WHICH YOU'LL BE PARTICIPATING AND TO DO IT THE FULL 72 HOURS AHEAD OF TIME.

UM, AND ALSO TO, FOR THAT REMOTE MEETING TO OCCUR IN A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN PARTICIPATE REMOTELY IN THAT MEETING.

SO I DON'T, GABE I DUNNO IF YOU DID THAT, WHEN DID YOU DO REMOTE MEETINGS? UM, WE ONCE HAD COUNCIL MEMBER HEALY PARTICIPATING FROM YOSEMITE.

UM, BUT WE HAVE TO, YOU ACTUALLY, WE ACTUALLY HAVE, HAVE TO PHYSICALLY POST THE AGENDA 72 HOURS AHEAD OF TIME AND YOU NEED TO DO THE MEETING.

SOMETIMES WE HAVE MEMBERS DOING A HOTEL LOBBY, UM, ET CETERA.

SO WE CAN DO THAT.

IT TAKES SOME ADVANCED PLANNING.

UM, UH, NEXT SLIDE.

SO, SO I'M NOT GONNA GO INTO DETAIL ON THESE.

WE, WE NOW HAVE AS A RESULT OF CID, UM, SOME OTHER EXCEPTIONS THAT ALLOW REMOTE PARTICIPATION IN MEETINGS, UM, WHEN MEMBERS LIKE WHEN THEY'RE SICK AND CAN'T ATTEND.

UM, AND IF THAT ARISES, ASK STAFF THE, YOU KNOW, BRING THAT TO STAFF'S ATTENTION AND WE CAN WORK WITH YOU ON THAT.

I, I'LL, I'LL MENTION TO YOU THAT CURRENTLY BECAUSE OF, UM, DISRUPTIVE PARTICIPATION WE'VE HAD FROM SOME MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, WE ARE NOT CONDUCTING HYBRID MEETINGS, UM, AT THE CO FOR THE COUNCIL OR EVEN MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, I'M SORRY, OR, OR ANY OF THE SUBORDINATE BODIES.

UM, UM, BECAUSE AS A RESULT OF THOSE PROBLEMS, AND WE'LL BE REVISITING THAT, UM, AT SOME FUTURE POINT.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

UM, UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

THE, SO THESE, THESE SLIDES TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE DETAILS OF THOSE NEW EXCEPTIONS AND THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT COMPLICATED.

UM, BUT WE, WE CAN NAVIGATE THEM IF WE NEED TO.

NEXT SLIDE.

UM, I'M GONNA SAY NEXT SLIDE.

NEXT SLIDE, NEXT SLIDE.

NEXT SLIDE.

OKAY.

AND WE'LL GO THROUGH THESE KIND OF QUICKLY 'CAUSE THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE BREAD AND BUTTER FOR THE CLERKS.

UM, BUT IT'S GOOD FOR, IT'LL BE GOOD FOR YOU TO BE AWARE OF THEM, BUT THERE WON'T BE THINGS FOR WHICH YOU'RE, YOU'RE PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE TO MANAGE.

SO NEXT SLIDE.

AND CITY ATTORNEY DANLEY.

CAN I JUST, UH, LET YOU KNOW IT'S JUST FIVE AFTER SEVEN.

SO WE STILL WANT TO TRY TO GET TO THE ONE STAFF ITEM.

SO DO YOU WANT ME TO WRAP IT UP NOW OR HOW MUCH MORE TIME? I THINK IF THERE'S ANYTHING IN ADVANCE OF MAYBE THE WEBINAR THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE ATTENDING THAT WOULD BE PERTINENT IN THE NEXT WEEK MAY BE HELPFUL,

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UM, TO GUIDE THEM.

LEMME JUST GLANCE QUICKLY.

WE ACTUALLY COVERED THE MOST IMPORTANT THING, WHICH WAS CONTACTS OF THE MEMBERS.

UM, UH, SO I, I THINK THAT REALLY COVERS ENOUGH FOR NOW.

UM, I'LL JUST QUICKLY SAY THE PURPOSE OF THE AGENDA IS TO GIVE NOTICE TO ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC SO THEY CAN SHOW UP AND PARTICIPATE.

UM, WE HAVE TO DESCRIBE IN ENOUGH DETAIL WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO, UM, SO THAT THEY CAN CHOOSE TO DO THAT OR NOT.

UM, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO STICK TO WHAT WE'VE AGENDIZED WHEN WE CONDUCT OUR MEETINGS.

'CAUSE OTHERWISE SOMEBODY WOULD BE LIKE, OH GOSH, IF I KNEW THEY WERE GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT, I WOULD'VE COME.

UM, WE HAVE SLIDES THAT WE'LL PRESENT NEXT WEEK THAT TALK ABOUT, UM, THE LIMITED WAYS IN WHICH WE CAN TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA.

ONE OF THEM I JUST TALKED ABOUT, WHICH IS FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, GETTING CLARIFICATION FROM STAFF AND BRIEFLY RESPONDING TO SAY PUBLIC COMMENTS.

UM, SO YEAH, I THINK, I THINK THAT'S ENOUGH FOR TONIGHT.

AND WE, AND, AND THANK YOU FOR HELPING ME MANAGE THE TIME.

YEAH, NO, THANK YOU.

AND I THINK WE DID THIS A LITTLE OUTTA ORDER.

SO BEING A FIRST, UH, COMMITTEE, EVERYONE'S BEING SEATED AT THE FIRST TIME.

MANY OF THE OTHER CITY COMMITTEES, ONE OR TWO PEOPLE ARE JOINING, AND SO THEY'RE BEING PULLED INTO THE WEBINAR.

BUT WE WANTED TO PROVIDE SOME INITIAL FOUNDATION SO THAT IN THE, UH, INTERMEDIATE TIME, WE DON'T FIND OURSELF WHERE WE INADVERTENTLY DRIFT OUT OF WHAT THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS REQUIREMENTS ARE.

SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO PLEASE JOIN AND GET A MUCH MORE COMPREHENSIVE TRAINING THROUGH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE THROUGH THAT.

AND THEN IF, IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT OR ARE UNFAMILIAR WITH THE DATE OF THE TRAINING, PLEASE REACH OUT TO ME AND WE WILL, WE WILL, UH, RECIRCULATE THAT TO YOU.

UM, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY SPECIFIC TO THIS? SORRY, THAT'S NEXT WEDNESDAY AT FIVE 30 IN THIS CHAMBERS.

UM, AND WE WILL SHARE THIS ENTIRE PACKAGE WITH EACH OF YOU ELECTRONICALLY.

UM, AND YEAH, THAT'S JUST SO YOU CAN START TALKING, UM, AND NOT TALKING AS THE CASE MAY BE, AND START CARRYING OUT YOUR DUTIES.

AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND WITH THAT, I THINK I'LL LEAVE YOU IN THE CAPABLE HANDS OF MY COLLEAGUE IN CASE THERE ARE FURTHER LEGAL QUESTIONS.

AND, UM, AGAIN, REALLY EXCITED TO BE HERE WITH YOU TONIGHT AND THANKS FOR JOINING THE CITY PUBLIC SAFETY TEAM.

THANK YOU.

AND ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE? OKAY.

UH, CITY CLERK.

MM-HMM, , IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? WE, WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT, UH, BEFORE THIS MEETING AND RECEIVING NONE.

I WOULD ASK IF THERE'S ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC IN ATTENDANCE TONIGHT THAT WISH SHOULD PROVIDE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS PRESENTATION.

OKAY.

SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS PRESENTATION.

AND

[PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION]

BRISKLY MOVE US TO OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING MATTER FOR CONSIDERATION, UH, WHICH STAFF WILL BE PROVIDING OR PROVIDING A STAFF REPORT TONIGHT.

AND SO THAT ITEM IS ITEM SIX IN THE AGENDA TO RECEIVE AND REVIEW THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ANNUAL MILITARY EQUIPMENT USE REPORT, ALSO KNOWN AS ASSEMBLY BILL 4 81 FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024.

AND LIEUTENANT GARRETT LOVANO IS REPRESENTING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

I'LL BE PROVIDING THAT PRESENTATION TO YOU ALL.

GOOD EVENING, UH, CHAIR MILLER COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS LIEUTENANT GARRETT LAVIANO.

I'M THE PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS DIVISION LIEUTENANT.

I'M, UH, GRATEFUL TO BE PART OF THIS HISTORIC NIGHT AND APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY IN THIS CAPACITY.

THIS EVENING'S PRESENTATION IS MEANT TO BE AN INTRODUCTION INTO ASSEMBLY BILL 4 81, A TRANSMITTAL OF THE FISCAL YEAR 24 MILITARY USE REPORT, AND AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE INSIGHT INTO THE USE OF OUR MILITARY EQUIPMENT DURING THAT TIME.

THE AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING IS TO PROVIDE BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON ASSEMBLY BILL 41, REVIEW OUR PREVIOUS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EFFORTS RELATED TO THE MILITARY EQUIPMENT, HIGHLIGHT LOCATIONS, WHICH WHERE MORE INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND, AND WHERE COMMUNITY MEMBERS CAN VOICE THEIR CONCERNS, COMPLAINTS AND COMMENTS.

DEFINE MILITARY EQUIPMENT AS IT RELATES TO AB 41.

SPEAK TO WHY THIS EQUIPMENT IS NEEDED.

REVIEW SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT WHICH THE PETAL ALONE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS IN ITS INVENTORY.

PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF HOW THE MILITARY, UH, MILITARY EQUIPMENT WAS USED IN FISCAL YEAR 24, AND AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS FROM THE COMMITTEE.

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IN SEPTEMBER OF 2021, THE CALIFORNIA LEGISLATURE PASSED AB 41.

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THE BILL'S AUTHOR NOTED A LAW ENFORCEMENT'S AGENCY'S ABILITY TO ACQUIRE EQUIPMENT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WITHOUT AUTHORIZATION FROM ITS GOVERNING BODY.

THE BILL IS AN EFFORT TO INCREASE TRANSPARENCY, ACCOUNTABILITY, AND OVERSIGHT ON THE ACQUISITION AND USE OF MILITARY EQUIPMENT.

THE BILL ALSO SOUGHT TO PROVIDE SAFEGUARD TO THE PUBLIC'S TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC'S WELFARE, SAFETY, CIVIL RIGHTS, AND LIBERTIES.

DUE TO THE MISUSE OF MILITARY EQUIPMENT, THE BILL REQUIRES THAT AGENCIES ADOPT A MILITARY USE OF POLICY, WHICH ISN'T TO INCLUDE SEVERAL ITEMS SUCH AS THE AUTHORIZED USE TRAINING REQUIREMENTS, INVENTORY, AND FISCAL IMPACTS FOR EACH ITEM.

IT ALSO REQUIRES MECHANISMS TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH THE MILITARY EQUIPMENT, USE POLICY, THE MEANS FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO REGISTER THEIR FEEDBACK ABOUT THE USE OF MILITARY EQUIPMENT.

UH, THE REQUIREMENT FOR A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY TO OBTAIN APPROVAL OF THEIR GOVERNING BODY OF A MILITARY EQUIPMENT USE POLICY THROUGH THE ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE, A PUBLICLY AVAILABLE ANNUAL REPORT TO THE GOVERNING BODY, WHICH IS TO INCLUDE HOW THE EQUIPMENT WAS USED, THE USE, MAINTENANCE, STORAGE, AND TRAINING COSTS, INFORMATION ABOUT POLICY VIOLATIONS RELATED TO MILITARY EQUIPMENT, AND THE INTENTION TO ACQUIRE ADDITIONAL MILITARY EQUIPMENT IN THE COMING YEAR.

THEN WITH 30 DAYS, WITHIN 30 DAYS OF THE RELEASE OF THE REPORT, THE AGENCY IS TO HOLD A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT MEETING WHERE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THE REPORT.

WE HELD OUR COMMUNITY MEETING AND MILITARY EQUIPMENT DISPLAY OUTSIDE OF CITY HALL ON JULY 2ND, AND THE FISCAL 24 ANNUAL REPORT WILL BE PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL ON AUGUST 5TH.

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IN ADDITION TO THE PRESENTATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL REGARDING AB 41, WHICH CAN BE FOUND ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, THE DEPARTMENT HAS COMMITTED TO DISPLAYING HOSTING COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND PROVIDING INFORMATION REGARDING ITS USE OF MILITARY EQUIPMENT.

YOU'LL SEE THERE ON THE SLIDE THE THE LIST OF COMMUNITY ENGAGE ENGAGEMENT EFFORTS THAT WE'VE DONE.

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IN ADDITION, EXCUSE ME, THE THE DEPARTMENT HAS ESTABLISHED WEB WEBPAGE LOCATED ON THE DEPARTMENT'S WEBSITE IN THE TRANSPARENCY PORTAL SECTION TITLED SPECIALIZED EQUIPMENT.

THE PAGE DISCUSSES AB 41 AND THE QUALIFYING EQUIPMENT CONTAINS HISTORICAL DOCUMENTS RELATED TO THE PROCEEDINGS SUCH AS THE ADOPTION OF AB 41 AND THE ANNUAL REPORT.

THE DEPARTMENT HAS CREATED AN EMAIL FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO WISH TO PROVIDE COMMENTS, CONCERNS, COMPLAINTS, WRITING THE DEPARTMENT'S USE OF MILITARY EQUIPMENT, AND COMMUN COMMUNITY MEMBERS CAN ALSO CONTACT THE OFFICE OF THE INDEPENDENT POLICE AUDITOR WITH THEIR CONCERNS.

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WHILE OUR CITY IS COMPRISED OF LARGE RESIDENTIAL BEDROOM COMMUNITY IN EXPANDING INVENTORY OF MULTI-STORY APARTMENT COMPLEXES, IT IS ALSO BOTH ACTIVE AND VIBRANT.

WE HAVE MULTIPLE METHODS OF PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, VARIOUS SCHOOL CAMPUSES AND ACTIVE DOWNTOWN AND NIGHTLIFE, A MARINA AND AIRPORT AND NUMEROUS CITY AND BUSINESS COMPLEXES.

AND WE HOST SEVERAL COMMUNITY EVENTS, FESTIVALS, PARADES IN OUR FAIR.

UNFORTUNATELY, IN OUR NATION'S HISTORY, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF INCIDENTS WHICH LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS RESPONDED TO INVOLVING ARMED DANGEROUS, VIOLENT, AND MOTIVATED INDIVIDUALS, WHICH HAVE PLAYED OUT IN ALL THESE TYPES OF LOCATIONS AND EVENTS.

EACH OF THESE LOCATIONS AND EVENTS PRESENT A DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT DIFFICULT TACTICAL CHALLENGE TO RESPOND TO.

WHILE WE HOPE TO NEVER RESPOND TO A TRAGIC EVENT IN ANY OF THESE AREAS, OUR DUTY AS A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY IS TO ENSURE OUR OFFICERS ARE PROPERLY TRAINED AND EQUIPPED TO DEAL WITH THE DANGERS OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS MAY FACE IN THAT WE CANNOT SIMPLY PREPARE FOR THOSE INCIDENTS WHICH HAVE OCCURRED IN OUR COMMUNITY.

WE MUST PREPARE FOR THOSE INCIDENTS WHICH COULD HAPPEN, AND OUR COUNTRY'S TRAGIC HISTORY WITH CRITICAL INCIDENTS PROVIDES A WINDOW INTO THOSE POSSIBILITIES.

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WHILE WE, WHILE WE HAVE BEEN CALLED UPON TO CONFRONT ARMED ENDANGERED INDIVIDUALS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND HAVE DEALT WITH THREATS AND ACTUAL VIOLENCE TO INDIVIDUALS AND IN OUR BUSINESSES AND SCHOOLS, THERE ARE SEVERAL SERIOUS EVENTS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE IN RECENT HIS HISTORY OUTSIDE OUR CITY THAT HIGHLIGHT THE IMPORTANCE OF PREPAREDNESS, INCLUDING THOSE WE SEE ON THIS SLIDE.

WITH THE KNOWLEDGE OF THESE TYPES OF INCIDENTS AND MANY OTHERS, WE WOULD BE DERELICT IN OUR DUTY NOT TO BE PREPARED TO HANDLE SUCH INCIDENTS, AND THAT PREPARATION INCLUDES BOTH PROPER TRAINING AND EQUIPMENT.

I ALSO WANNA POINT OUT WE RECOGNIZE THAT PREPAREDNESS IS ONLY A PIECE OF OUR PUBLIC SAFETY MISSION.

AND AS A DEPARTMENT, WE EMBRACE THE IMPORTANCE OF STRONG COMMUNITY RELATIONSHIPS AND THE TRUST AND LEGITIMACY THAT THOSE RELATIONSHIPS BRING.

SO WE, SO WHILE WE HAVE THIS EQUIPMENT AND ARE FORTUNATE THAT WE HAVE NOT HAD TO USE MUCH OF IT, WE RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF ONLY USING IT IN SITUATIONS WHERE IT'S WARRANTED.

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BEFORE I MOVE ON TO A, A REVIEW OF OUR EQUIPMENT AND THE INCIDENTS WHICH HAVE TAKEN PLACE THIS YEAR FOR CONTEXT, MUCH OF THIS EQUIPMENT IS THE SOLE USE OF OUR DEPARTMENT, SWAT TEAM MEMBERS.

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THE SWAT TEAM IS ONE COMPONENT OF OUR CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM, WHICH ALSO INCORPORATES A TEAM OF OFFICERS TRAINED IN CRISIS NEGOTIATIONS AND, UH, TACTICAL DISPATCHERS.

THE CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED TO PROVIDE SPECIALIZED SUPPORT IN HANDLING OF CRITICAL FIELD OPERATIONS, WHERE INTENSE NEGOTIATIONS AND SPECIAL DEPLOYMENT METHODS BEYOND THE CAPACITY OF PATROL OFFICERS APPEAR TO BE NECESSARY.

THE PRIMARY FOCUS OF THE CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM IS TO PROVIDE TACTICAL SOLUTIONS THAT INCREASE THE LIKELIHOOD OF DEESCALATION AND THE SAFE RESOLUTION TO HIGH RISK INCIDENTS.

THEIR PRIMARY MISSION INCLUDED BARRICADED SUBJECTS WHO REFUSE THEIR INCLUDE BARRICADED SUBJECTS WHO REFUSE IN ORDER TO SURRENDER INCIDENTS WHERE HOSTAGES ARE TAKEN AND ARRESTS OF DANGEROUS PERSONS.

OUR CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM IS A PART-TIME TEAM AND OFFICERS ARE ASSIGNED TO THESE TEAMS AS A COLLATERAL ASSIGNMENT.

IN ORDER TO BE A MEMBER OF THESE TEAMS, OFFICER OFFICERS HAVE TO MEET MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS, PARTICIPATE IN A RIGOROUS TESTING PROCESS, AND COMMIT TO ADDITIONAL INITIAL AND ONGOING TRAINING.

MORE INFORMATION ABOUT OUR CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM CAN BE FOUNDED IN THE DEPARTMENT POLICY UNDER DEPARTMENT POLICY 4 0 8.

AND AS A REMINDER, ALL OUR POLICIES CAN BE FOUND ON THE DEPARTMENT WEBSITE UNDER THE TRANSPORT TRANSPARENCY PORTAL.

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AB 41 IDENTIFIES 15 CATEGORIES OF MILITARY EQUIPMENT AT WHICH THE PENAL POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS EQUIPMENT IN SEVEN CATEGORIES, WHICH ARE HIGHLIGHTED ON THE SLIDE.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO DISTINGUISH THAT ALTHOUGH THE LEGISLATURE HAS DEEMED THIS EQUIPMENT, MILITARY EQUIPMENT, THE PENAL POLICE DEPARTMENT ONLY HAS TWO PIECES OF EQUIPMENT THAT WERE DESIGNED FOR THE MILITARY AND OBTAINED, OBTAINED FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE.

THOSE ARE THE TWO ARMORED PERSONNEL CARRIERS, WHICH WE'LL DISCUSS SHORTLY.

THE REMAINDER OF OUR EQUIPMENT WAS DESIGNED FOR AND IS COMMONLY USED BY MUNICIPAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES.

I'LL NOW REVIEW THE TYPES OF EQUIPMENT WE ARE CURRENTLY AUTHORIZED TO POSSESS USING THE CATEGORY FRAMEWORK OF 41.

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LAST YEAR WE WERE AUTHORIZED BY CITY COUNCIL TO PURCHASE UNMANNED AERIAL SYSTEMS OR DRONES IN AN UNMANNED GROUND VEHICLE OR A ROBOT.

WE HAVE PURCHASED EIGHT DRONES AND ONE ROBOT HAVE SELECTED THE SUPERVISOR AND OFFICERS WHO WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR DEPLOYMENTS.

AND WE'RE ACTIVELY TRAINING OFFICERS ANTICIPATION OF STANDING UP OUR DRONE TEAM.

TWO OF THE DRONES AND THE ROBOT ARE PICTURED AT THE CENTER OF THE SLIDE THERE.

THE AUTHORIZED USE OF THIS EQUIPMENT INCLUDES RESPONDING TO EMERGENCY AND DISASTER SCENES TO SAFELY PROVIDE REAL-TIME INFORMATION TO AN INCIDENT COMMANDER CONDUCTING SEARCHES OF STRUCTURES AND VEHICLES DURING HIGH RISK INCIDENTS, INCLUDING THE SERVICE OF HIGH RISK SEARCH AND ARREST WARRANTS, HOSTAGE RESCUE OPERATIONS, SEARCH AND RESCUE OPERATIONS RELATED TO MISSING PERSONS AND CRIME COLLISION SCENE DOCUMENTATION.

NONE OF THE EQUIPMENT PURCHASED IN THIS CATEGORY IS WEAPONIZED AND THE POLICY PROHIBITS PROHIBITS USAGE THAT DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE FOR FOURTH AMENDMENT RELATED TO SEARCHES AND SEIZURES.

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CATEGORY TWO MINE RESISTANT AM AMBUSH PROTECTED VEHICLES OR ARMORED PERSONNEL CARRIERS.

AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, WE HAVE TWO ARMORED PERSONNEL CARRIERS, WHICH WERE OBTAINED THROUGH THE 10 33 PROGRAM.

THE LARGER VEHICLE PICTURED ON THE LOWER RIGHT WAS ACQUIRED IN 2018.

IT CAN CARRY UP TO 14 PEOPLE ALONG WITH THEIR ACCOMPANYING EQUIPMENT AND ITS ARMORS RATED TO WITHSTAND BULLETS THAT EXCEED 50 CALIBER.

IN ADDITION TO ITS BALLISTIC PROTECTION CAPABILITIES, IT CAN AND HAS BEEN USED ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS FOR HIGH WATER RESCUES.

AS YOU SEE IN THE PHOTO IN THE CENTER, THE SMALLER VEHICLE PICTURED ON THE LOWER LEFT WAS ACQUIRED IN 2019, IT CAN CARRY UP TO FOUR PEOPLE AND ITS ARMOR ALSO IS RATED TO WITHSTAND BULLETS THAT EXCEED 50 CALIBER.

THE AUTHORIZED USE FOR THIS EQUIPMENT INCLUDES INCIDENTS THAT INVOLVE ACTUAL THREATENED OR SUSPECTED VIOLENCE IN SITUATIONS IN WHICH THE SUSPECT MAY BE ARMED WITH A WEAPON CAPABLE OF PROJECTING A DANGEROUS WEAPON FROM A DISTANCE OR WHEN PATROL SHIELDS WOULD NOT PROVIDE ADEQUATE PROTECTION OR ARE NOT IMMEDIATELY AVAILABLE NATURAL DISASTERS IN WHICH RESCUES MAY BE NEEDED.

LASTLY, DURING A PRE-PLAN, PRE-PLANNED OPERATION UPON APPROVAL THROUGH THE CHAIN OF COMMAND, THE ARMORED VEHICLES ARE NOT WEAPONIZED AND PER POLICY THAT WILL GENERALLY NOT BE USED IN CROWD CONTROL SITUATIONS OR DURING TIMES OF CIVIL UNREST, PROTEST, OR DEMONSTRATIONS UNLESS THERE'S A CLEAR ARTICULABLE FACTS THAT DICTATE THE NEED.

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FOR CONTEXT, OUR DEPARTMENT'S FIRST ARMORED VEHICLE WAS A SURPLUS BRINKS TRUCK, WHICH WAS ONLY RATED TO STOP HANDGUN GROUND HANDGUN ROUNDS.

DUE TO THE SIGNIFICANT MECHA, UH, MECHANICAL ISSUES, IT WAS CYCLED OUT OF OUR INVENTORY THAT IN 2017 WE SOUGHT FUNDING TO PURCHASE LENKO BEARCATS, WHICH ARE DOMESTIC NON-MILITARY RESCUE VEHICLES.

THE FUNDING WHICH WAS ESTIMATED TO BE $750,000 FOR BOTH WAS NOT AVAILABLE.

THIS LED TO THE ACQUISITION OF TWO ARMORED PERSONNEL CARRIERS WE HAVE TODAY.

THE VEHICLE ON THE LEFT IS OUR ARMOR PERSONNEL CARRIER.

THIS PICTURE WAS TAKEN WHEN WE PICKED UP

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THE VEHICLE FROM EL MONTE PD WHO HAD IT PRE PRIOR TO US.

THEY HAD REACHED, RECENTLY PURCHASED A BEARCAT, WHICH IS PICTURED TO THE RIGHT AND NO LONGER NEEDED THE MILITARY VEHICLE.

SO IF YOU NOTE THE SIZE OF THE TWO VEHICLES AND, AND THE DIFFERENCES THERE, THE BEARCAT SITS ON A F THREE 50 FRAME AND IS SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED FOR URBAN LAW ENFORCEMENT.

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THEY'RE OFTEN QUESTIONS AS TO IF ARMORED VEHICLES INCREASE OFFICER SAFETY AND MUNICIPAL LAW ENFORCEMENT.

THIS SLIDE DEPICTS SEVERAL EXAMPLES OF WHERE THAT WAS THE CASE, MANY OF WHICH OCCURRED IN SMALL TOWNS MOST OF US HAVE NEVER HEARD OF.

WHILE I WOULD AGREE THESE TOOLS MAY NOT REDUCE CRIME, THESE VEHICLES IN THE REMAINDER OF THIS EQUIPMENT HAVE A PURPOSE IN CERTAIN SITUATIONS, AND THAT PURPOSE RELATES TO THE SAFE RESOLUTION OF ADVERSARIAL CONFLICT.

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THIS SLIDE DEPICTS A SEARCH AND ARREST WARRANT SERVED IN OUR COMMUNITY.

IN 2018.

THE SUSPECT IN THIS CASE HAVE PREVIOUSLY BEEN ARRESTED FOR POSSESSING A LOADED 45 CALIBER HANDGUN, WHICH HAVE BEEN TAKEN DURING A RESIDENTIAL BURGLARY IN A NEIGHBORING CITY.

FIVE MONTHS LATER WAS DISCOVERED THE SUSPECT WHO WAS A PROHIBITED BY A COURT ORDER FROM POSSESSING ANY FIREARMS WAS ATTEMPTING TO SELL AN ASSAULT RIFLE AND TWO HANDGUNS ONLINE.

THE DEPARTMENT SWAT TEAM SERVED THE WARRANT AT THE RESIDENCE USING A TACTIC KNOWN AS SURROUNDING CALL OUT.

THE TEAM PARKED THE VEHICLE IN FRONT OF THE RESIDENCE AND THEN FROM BEHIND THE VEHICLE IN A BALLISTIC COVER BEGAN CALLING FOR THE RESIDENCE TO COME OUT, WHICH THEY EVENTUALLY DID, AND THE SUSPECT WAS ARRESTED WITHOUT INCIDENT.

OFFICERS LOCATED THE RIFLE IN ONE HANDGUN AND AN UPSTAIRS BEDROOM NEXT TO THE WINDOW OVERLOOKING THE STREET.

IN THE ABSENCE THE ARMOR VEHICLE HAD THE SUSPECT CHOSEN TO SHOOT AT OFFICERS FROM THE ELEVATED POSITION, THE OFFICERS WOULD'VE BEEN AT A SEVERE DISADVANTAGE.

THE ARMOR VEHICLE PROVIDED THE NECESSARY BALLISTIC PROTECTION FOR THE OFFICERS AND CONTRIBUTED TO A SAFE RESOLUTION.

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OUR MOBILE COMMAND VEHICLE WAS ACQUIRED IN 2010 THROUGH GRANT FUNDING FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY AND THE OFFICE OF TRAFFIC SAFETY.

ITS AUTHORIZED USE INCLUDES PRE-PLANNED AND UNPLANNED EVENTS SUCH AS COMMAND AND CONTROL FOR COMMUNICATIONS AND EMERGENCIES, INVESTIGATION, SCENE PROCESSING, SPECIAL OPERATIONS AND EVENTS.

THE MOBILE COMMAND VEHICLE IS ALSO CRITICAL TO OUR, OUR REDUNDANCY EMERGENCY SITUATIONS AND DISASTERS AS IT SERVES AS A BACKUP TO OUR DISPATCH CENTER SLIDE PLEASE.

CATEGORY SEVEN BATTERING RAM SLUGS AND BREACHING APPARATUS THAT ARE EXPLOSIVE IN NATURE.

THE PHOTO OF THE ON THE LEFT IS A SHOTGUN THAT IS EXCLUSIVELY USED BY OUR SWAT TEAM MEMBERS TO DEPLOY, BREACHING AND OTHER MUNITIONS.

BREACHING MUNITIONS ARE USED TO SHOOT LOCKS AND HINGES ON DOORS OR TO ALLOW FOR RAPID ENTRY IN A CRISIS SITUATION.

AND THE ABSENCE OF BREACHING MUNITIONS, THE MANUAL TOOLS PICTURED ON THE RIGHT WOULD BE USED.

THE ADVANTAGE OF THE BREACHING MUNITION IS THE SPEED AT WHICH LOCKS AND HINGES CAN BE DEFEATED, WHICH LIMITS THE EXPOSURE TO THE OFFICERS AT THE DOOR ONLY SWAT TEAM MEMBERS WHO HAVE COMPLETED THE NECESSARY TRAINING ARE PERMITTED TO USE BREACHING MUNITIONS.

THE BREACHING MUNITIONS ARE AUTHORIZED TO BE USED DURING INCIDENTS INVOLVING BARRICADED SUSPECTS, HOSTAGE RESCUE INCIDENTS AND ACTIVE SHOOTERS.

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SPECIALIZED FIREARMS AND AMMUNITION OF LESS THAN 50 CALIBER.

THE RIFLE SHOWN HERE IS A SWAT SNIPER RIFLE.

THERE ARE A FEW NOT NOTABLE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THIS RIFLE AND A STANDARD ISSUE PATROL RIFLE, INCLUDING THE SNIPER RIFLE'S LARGER CALIBER, WHICH ALLOWS FOR GREATER EFFECTIVE RANGE AND A GREATER ABILITY TO SHOOT THROUGH BARRIERS.

THE SNIPER RIFLE IS ALSO ALSO HAS A MAGNIFIED SCOPE, WHICH ALLOWS THE SNIPER TO BETTER EVALUATE THE SITUATION THEY ARE PRESENTED WITH.

THESE RIFLES ARE ONLY DEPLOYED AS A PART OF THE CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM RESPONSE BY THREE TRAINED SNIPERS WHO ARE MEMBERS OF OUR UH, DEPARTMENT SWAT TEAM.

THESE OFFICERS NOT ONLY PROVIDE COVER FOR THEIR FAILED SWAT TEAM MEMBERS, BUT THEY ALSO ARE A SOURCE OF ON SCENE INTELLIGENCE AS THEY ARE OFTEN POSITIONED IN COVERT LOCATIONS AT A SAFE DISTANCE AWAY.

THE AUTHORIZED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH STATE AND FEDERAL LAWS.

IT RELATES TO THE USE OF DEADLY FORCE.

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NOISE FLASH DIVERSIONARY DEVICES AND EXPLOSIVE BREACHING TOOLS.

MUNITIONS CONTAINING TEAR GASTRO C EXCLUDING STANDARD SERVICEIS ISSUED HANDHELD PEPPER SPRAY.

THIS CATEGORY COVERS A MULTITUDE OF ITEMS, ALL OF WHICH ARE ONLY NEEDED TO BE DEPLOYED BY TRAINED MEMBERS OF OUR SWAT TEAM DURING HIGH RISK INCIDENTS.

THE DEVICE PICTURED ON THE LEFT IS A NOISE FLASH DIVERSIONARY DEVICE, ALSO KNOWN AS A FLASH BANG AS WHEN IS DEPLOYED.

IT CREATES A FLASH OF LIGHT IN A LOUD BANG.

THEY'RE INTENT ARE INTENDED TO TEMPORARILY DISTRACT, CONFUSE AND DISORIENT SUSPECTS.

THEY CAN ONLY BE USED TO GET THE ATTENTION OF A SUSPECT DURING CRITICAL INCIDENTS TO ALLOW FOR COMMUNICATIONS AND DEESCALATION STRATEGIES BY CRISIS NEGOTIATORS.

THE FOUR MUNITIONS PICTURED TO THE RIGHT ARE VARIOUS DELIVERY METHODS FOR CS GAS.

CS GAS IS A CHEMICAL AGENT

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DESIGNED TO CAUSE THE EYES TO WATER AND IMPACT THE RESPIRATORY SYSTEM.

MAKING AN ENVIRONMENT FILLED WITH CS GAS UNCOMFORTABLE.

IT IS USED TO MOVE A SUSPECT FROM AN ADVANTAGEOUS POSITION OR TO PREVENT A SUSPECT FROM ENTERING AN ADVANTAGEOUS POSITION.

CHEMICAL AGENTS SUCH AS CS CAN ALSO BE USED TO PREVENT AN ARMED SUSPECT FROM ACCURATELY FIRING AT COMMUNITY MEMBERS OR OFFICERS.

WHAT IS PICTURED HERE ARE CANISTERS MEANT TO BE THROWN INDOORS AND OUTDOORS AND MUNITIONS THAT CAN BE SHOT INTO STRUCTURES AND AT SUSPECTS FROM A 40 MILLIMETER LAUNCHER.

THE DEPARTMENT DOES POSSESS OTHER SIMILAR CANERS THAT ARE NOT PICTURED.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT PURSUANT TO POLICY ONLY THE WATCH COMMANDER, INCIDENT COMMANDER OR CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM COMMANDER MAY AUTHORIZE THE DEPLOYMENT OF THESE CHEMICALS AND THEY CAN ONLY BE USED BY APPROPRIATELY TRAINED AND AUTHORIZED SWAT TEAM MEMBERS.

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KINETIC ENERGY WEAPONS MUNITIONS.

THIS SLIDE REPRESENTS TWO LESS LETHAL OPTIONS, WHICH ARE READILY AVAILABLE TO OUR PATROL OFFICERS.

THE WEAPON ON THE TOP WITH THE ORANGE STOCK IS A LESS LETHAL SHOTGUN, WHICH IS USED TO SHOOT A BEANBAG ROUND.

EACH PATROL VEHICLE IS EQUIPPED WITH A LESS LETHAL SHOTGUN.

THE EFFECTIVE RANGE OF THE BEANBAG ROUND IS BETWEEN FIVE AND 75 FEET.

THE WEAPON AT THE BOTTOM IS A 40 MILLIMETER LAUNCHER CARRYING A FOAM BATON ROUND, AND I BELIEVE WE PASSED ONE OF THOSE OUT, UM, PRIOR TO THE MEETING.

SO IF YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

THE DEPARTMENT HAS EIGHT SINGLE SHOT, 40 MIL MILLIMETER LAUNCHERS, AND THEY ARE AVAILABLE TO ALL PATROL OFFICERS TO CHECK OUT THE FOAM.

BATON ROUND IS EFFECTIVE UP TO 120 FEET.

THESE LESS LETHAL OPTIONS CAN BE USED TO DISTRACT DISORIENT AND DIVERT THE ATTENTION OF ARMED SUSPECTS OR THOSE ENGAGED IN VIOLENCE OR THREATS OF VIOLENCE TO SAFELY APPREHEND SUSPECTS WITHOUT THE USE OF DEADLY FORCE.

IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE OUR PATROL OFFICERS CARRY A PERSONAL CAN CANISTER OF PEPPER SPRAY A AND A TA AND A TASER ON THEIR PERSON.

THE EFFECTIVE RANGE OF THE PEPPER SPRAY IS 12 FEET.

THE EFFECTIVE RANGE OF A TASER IS 21 FEET.

THE BEANBAG SHOTGUN AND 40 MILLIMETER LAUNCHER ALLOW OFFICERS TO DEAL WITH ARMED OR VIOLENT SUSPECTS AT GREATER DISTANCES AND ALLOWS THEM A GREATER ABILITY TO UTILIZE COVER, BOTH OF WHICH ARE IMPORTANT CONCEPTS AND DEESCALATION.

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DURING THIS REPORTING PERIOD, THERE WERE FOUR SIGNIFICANT EVENTS THAT RESULTED IN THE USE OF MILITARY EQUIPMENT.

WE'LL GO OVER THOSE NOW.

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IN AUGUST OF 2023, THE PENDULUM POLICE DETECTIVES ATTEMPTED TO ARREST A SEXUAL ASSAULT SUSPECT WHO HAD A VIOLENT CRIMINAL HISTORY AT HIS PLACE OF EMPLOYMENT.

UPON ARRIVAL, THE SUSPECT SAW THE APPROACHING OFFICERS AND FLED A PERIMETER WAS SET UP AROUND THE BUILDING AND THE SURROUNDING AREA.

OFFICERS THEN RECEIVED INFORMATION THAT THE SUSPECT WAS HIDING IN THE NEARBY FAST FOOD RESTAURANT'S BATHROOM, AND IT WAS BELIEVED HE WAS BARRICADED.

INSIDE OFFICERS RESPONDED TO THE RESTAURANT, EVACUATED THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND ATTEMPTED TO ASK THE SUSPECT TO COME OUT OF THE BATH BATHROOM, BUT RECEIVE NO RESPONSE DUE TO THE NATURE OF THE ALLEGED CRIME, THE SUSPECT'S VIOLENT CRI AND THE SUSPECT'S VIOLENT CRIMINAL HISTORY AND THE BELIEF THAT THE SUSPECT WAS POSSIBLY BARRICADED, BUT KNOWN TO BE HIDING FROM OFFICERS IN EITHER ONE OF TWO PLACES.

THE CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM WAS ACTIVATED, WHICH INCLUDED THE USE OF OUR ARMOR PERSONNEL CARRIER AND THE MOBILE COMMAND VEHICLE.

WHILE THE CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM SEARCHED THE RESTAURANT PATROL OFFICERS MAINTAINED THE PERIMETER AROUND THE BUILDING.

THE SUSPECT HAD BELIEVED TO BE, HAVE FLED FROM.

THE SUSPECT WAS RETURNED TO BE HIDING IN THAT BUILDING AND HAD INTENTIONALLY TRIED TO AVERT POLICE ATTENTION AWAY FROM IT IN ORDER TO TO ESCAPE.

THE SUSPECT ULTIMATELY BEGAN COMMUNICATING WITH A CRISIS NEGOTIATOR AND SURRENDERED TO OFFICERS WITHOUT A USE OF FORCE.

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IN OCTOBER OF 2023, THE DEPARTMENT RESPONDED TO A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE INCIDENT WHERE NEIGHBORS COULD HEAR A VICTIM BEING ASSAULTED AND SUBSEQUENTLY SOMEONE NAILING THE FRONT DOOR SHUT.

THE DEPARTMENT HAD RESPONDED TO THIS RESIDENCE TWICE IN, IN THE 14 DAYS LEADING UP TO THE INCIDENT.

BOTH TIMES THE SUSPECT ASSAULTED THEIR SPOUSE HAD REFUSED TO EXIT AND A RESISTED ARREST.

ADDITIONALLY, THE SUSPECT HAD THREATENED TO SHOOT OFFICERS WITH A SHOTGUN WAS RES, WAS THE RESTRAIN PARTY IN AN EMERGENCY PROTECTIVE ORDER AND WAS NOT PERMITTED TO BE AT THE RESIDENCE OR HAVE CONTACT WITH THE VICTIM.

OFFICERS ATTEMPTED TO MAKE CONTACT WITH THE SUSPECT WHO DENIED THE VICTIM WAS PRESENT AND REFUSED TO EXIT THE, THE APARTMENT OFFICERS SUMMONED ADDITIONAL RESOURCES.

DUE TO THE COMPLEXITY OF THE SITUATION, THE DEPARTMENT ACTIVATED THIS CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM WAS UTILIZED AN ARMORED PERSONNEL CARRIER TO TRANSPORT MEMBERS AND EQUIPMENT AND PROVIDE BALLISTIC PROTECTION FOR OFFICERS IN THE COMMUNITY.

USING THE ARMORED PERSONNEL CARRIER ALLOWED OFFICERS, EXCUSE ME, WITH THE SUSPECT AND ATTEMPT TO DEESCALATE THE INCIDENT.

THE DEPARTMENT ALSO USED THE MOBILE COMMAND VEHICLE FOR INCIDENT COMMAND AND COMMUNICATIONS.

FIVE HOURS INTO THE INCIDENT, A FLASH BANG WAS DEPLOYED OUTSIDE AN EXTERIOR WINDOW TO DISTRACT THE SUSPECT.

AS OFFICERS CLEARED THE STAIRS OF THE HOUSEHOLD ITEMS, LEADING OF

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HOUSEHOLD ITEMS LEADING TO THE UPSTAIRS BEDROOM AND PROVIDED A STIMULUS AS THE SUSPECT HAD STOPPED COMMUNICATING WITH OFFICERS.

TWO MINUTES AFTER THE FLASH BANG WAS DEPLOYED, THE SUSPECT RE-ENGAGED COMMUNICATIONS WITH OFFICERS.

THE SUSPECT WOULD EVENTUALLY COME TO THE TOP OF THE STAIRS AND CONFRONTED OFFICERS BY THROWING ITEMS AT AT THEM AS HE PREVENTED THE, UH, PREVENTED THE VICTIM FROM LEAVING.

BY PUSHING HER BACK.

OFFICERS SHOT THE SUSPECT WITH A FOAM BATON ROUND FROM A 40 MILLIMETER LAUNCHER.

AS HE STOOD NEAR THE VICTIM AT THE TOP OF THE STAIRS, THE LESS LETHAL USE OF FORCE WAS CARRIED OUT IN AN ATTEMPT TO GAIN COMPLIANCE FROM THE SUSPECT.

AFTER A SERIES EVENT OF EVENTS, THE VICTIM WAS RESCUED BY OFFICERS WERE ABLE TO BRING HER DOWN THE STAIRS TO SAFETY.

THE SUSPECT REMAINED UPSTAIRS, REFUSED TO SURRENDER, BROKEN AN EXTERIOR WINDOW AND BROKE AN EXTERIOR WINDOW.

OFFICERS USED A 40 MILLIMETER LAUNCHER TO SHOOT THREE CS GAS ROUNDS INTO THE UPSTAIRS OF THE APARTMENT.

TWO MINUTES AFTER THE CS GAS WAS INTRODUCED, THE SUSPECT CAME DOWN THE STAIRS AND WAS TAKEN INTO CUSTODY BY OFFICERS WITHOUT FURTHER INCIDENT.

THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT SHOWS THE INSIDE OF THE APARTMENT FRONT DOOR.

AND IF YOU NOTICE ON THE LEADING EDGE, THE SUSPECT HAD IN FACT NAILED THE DOOR SHUT, UH, TRYING TO PREVENT THE VICTIM FROM LEAVING OR OFFICERS FROM ENTERING.

SORRY, LIEUTENANT.

IT IS NOW SEVEN 30.

UH, CHAIR WE WILL NEED TO MAKE A VOTE TO EXTEND BY 15 MINUTES.

YEAH.

SO WE RECOGNIZE YOUR VOLUNTEERS AND YOU'VE COMMITTED A LOT OF YOUR OWN TIME TO BE HERE TONIGHT, BUT WE DO HAVE THE AUTHORITY IN ENABLING ITS LEGISLATION TO EXTEND A MEETING UPON A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR ADDITIONAL 15 MINUTES, BUT WE'RE LIMITED TO THAT 15 MINUTES.

UM, SO I'D ASK YOU IF THERE'S A MOTION TO MAKE TO EXTEND FOR THAT ALLOTTED TIME PERIOD.

I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO EXTEND FOR 15 MINUTES.

AND IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT.

THANK YOU.

SO MOTION AND A SECOND.

A ROLL CALL.

VOTE I SECOND? YES.

COULD YOU REPEAT THE MOTION? MOTION BY KEARNEY SECOND BY ALBERTE? OH, MM-HMM.

.

OKAY.

SO DO I HAVE TO MAKE THIS ONE TOO? OKAY.

THE CALL.

ARE YOU FINE? JUST, JUST READ.

OKAY.

UM, ALBERTA? YES.

YES.

FOX.

YES.

KEARNEY? YES.

MILLER? YES.

OSLER? YES.

SULLIVAN? YES.

OSA.

K? YES.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

AND THEN MAYBE LIEUTENANT AVIANO, IF YOU COULD COVER THE, THE REMAINING EXAMPLE AND THEN WE, UH, MY, YOU ALL HAVE THE ATTACHED REPORT IN YOUR PACKET.

I HOPE EVERYONE'S HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THAT.

WE WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU, YOU KNOW, THE REMAINING TIME AFTER THE PR LAST EXAMPLE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS.

AND I THINK WE CAN ARTICULATE THROUGH STAFF, UM, ANY OF THOSE QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT OUR APPLICATION OR PROCESSES OR CURRENT USAGE, UH, WITHIN THE REPORT.

LIEUTENANT.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

YEP.

ALRIGHT.

IN, UH, MARCH OF THIS YEAR, THE SANTA ROSA POLICE DEPARTMENT LOCATED A SUSPECT WAS WANTED FOR MULTIPLE SERIOUS VIOLENT FELONY OFFENSES AT THE BEST WESTERN MOTEL IN PETALUMA.

THE SUSPECT HAD PREVIOUSLY, PREVIOUSLY ASSAULTED THEIR SPOUSE FLED FROM SANTA ROSA.

POLICE OFFICERS IN HIGH SPEED PURSUIT ATTEMPTED TO LIGHT THE VICTIM'S HOUSE ON FIRE AND WAS FOUND TO BE IN POSSESSION OF NUMEROUS FIREARMS WHILE BEING A PROHIBITED PERSON.

THE SANTA ROSA POLICE DEPARTMENT ACTIVATED THEIR SWAT TEAM IN AN ATTEMPT TO ARREST THE SUSPECT AT THE MOTEL.

THE SUSPECT SHOT A FIREARM MULTIPLE TIMES FROM INSIDE THE MOTEL ROOM AND MADE STATEMENTS TO OFFICERS ABOUT SHOOTING AT PASSING VEHICLES.

THE SANTA ROSA POLICE DEPARTMENT REQUESTED ADDITIONAL RESOURCES FROM THE PENAL POLICE DEPARTMENT WHO ACTIVATED ITS CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM.

THE CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM UTILIZED THE ARMOR PERSONNEL CARRIERS TO TRANSPORT MEMBERS AND EQUIPMENT AND PROVIDE, UH, HOLISTIC PROTECTION FOR THE OFFICERS IN THE COMMUNITY.

THE ARMOR PERSONNEL CARRIER WAS SPECIFICALLY U UTILIZED AS A SHIELD BETWEEN SUSPECTS, POTENTIAL GUNFIRE IN EAST WASHINGTON STREET.

THE USE OF THE ARMOR PERSONNEL CARRY ALLOWED OFFICERS TO RESOLVE THE INCIDENT WITHOUT CLOSING EAST WASHINGTON STREET AND HIGHWAY 1 0 1 TO VEHICLE TRAFFIC, WHILE ALSO ENSURING THE SAFETY OF THE PUBLIC.

UH, IF WE CAN GO TO SLIDE 24 REAL QUICK.

JUST WANNA HIT THAT.

SO THERE WAS TWO OTHER INCIDENTS THAT I WAS GONNA DESCRIBE THAT CAN BE SEEN ON THE POWERPOINT.

UM, LEMME FLIP THROUGH THIS ONE, UH, JUST REAL QUICK HERE.

UH, FOR CLARIFICATION, UM, JUST KIND OF A LEARNING POINT.

WHEN OFFICER POINTS OR DISPLAYS A WEAPON ON A PERSON IS CONSIDERED A SHOW OF FORCE.

AS A DEPARTMENT, WE TREAT A SHOW OF FORCE SIMILAR TO ALL USE, ALL USES OF FORCE IN THAT EACH INCIDENT IS REVIEWED BY THE OFFICER SERGEANT, DIVISIONAL LIEUTENANT, THE PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS LIEUTENANT, AND THE OFFICE OF THE INDEPENDENT POLICE AUDITOR.

THIS COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW, AMONGST OTHER PURPOSES, IS CONDUCTED TO DETERMINE IF THE FORCE WAS REASONABLE, APPROPRIATE

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PORTIONAL AND WITHIN POLICY.

AND THIS SLIDE, UH, ALLUDES TO THE 19 TIMES IN WHICH, UH, OUR 40 MILLIMETER LAUNCHER AND BEANBAG SHOTGUN WERE USED IN DISPLAY OF FORCES BUT WEREN'T DISCHARGED.

AND THEN, UM, IF YOU WANNA SKIP TO 26 REAL QUICK.

SO WE HAD THREE CATEGORIES OF EQUIPMENT THAT WERE NOT USED DURING THIS EVALUATION PERIOD.

SO YOU CAN SEE OUR DRONE TEAM, WHICH WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF STANDING UP, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, THE BREACHING SHOTGUN WAS NOT USED IN THE SNIPER RIFLE.

UM, BOTH THREE CATEGORIES THERE.

AND THE LAST SLIDE JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT THERE WERE, THERE WERE NO POLICY VIOLATIONS FOUND WITH THE DEPARTMENT USE, UH, DEPLOYMENT OR USE OF MILITARY EQUIPMENT.

ADDITIONALLY, THE COMPLIANCE WITH THE MILITARY EQUIPMENT USE POLICY WILL BE REVIEWED BY THE OFFICE OF THE INDEPENDENT POLICE AUDITOR AND REPORTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL AS PART OF THEIR ANNUAL REPORTING REQUIREMENTS.

AND THERE WERE NO COMPLAINTS RELATED TO THE USE OF MILITARY EQUIPMENT AS INVESTIGATED BY THE PENDULUM POLICE DEPARTMENT'S PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS DIVISION, UH, DURING THIS REPORTING PERIOD.

AND WITH THAT, I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE AND LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

SO AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE'LL TURN THE QUESTIONS OVER TO THE COMMITTEE, BUT AS GARRETT MENTIONED, MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES WHERE THIS COMES BEFORE THE PUBLIC.

SO EVERY YEAR WE PRESENT TO CITY COUNCIL THE ANNUAL REPORT.

SO AUGUST 5TH, THIS COMING MONTH, THIS REPORT WILL BE PRESENTED FORMALLY TO CITY COUNCIL FOR RENEWAL AND ADOPTION.

SO EVERY YEAR WE NEED TO RENEW AND REVIEW OUR USE OVER THE PAST YEAR AND EXTEND THE USE INTO THE COMING YEAR EACH YEAR.

SO THAT WILL BE HAPPENING IN AUGUST 5TH.

BUT ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS AS FAR AS THE REPORT OR FOR THE PRESENTATION OR QUESTIONS OF LIEUTENANT AVIANO ABOUT OUR MILITARY EQUIPMENT COMMITTEE MEMBER FOX.

HI, LIEUTENANT.

THANK YOU.

UM, I HAVE A QUESTION.

I UNDERSTAND FOR CONSUMABLE MIL MILITARY EQUIPMENT THAT OBVIOUSLY ONCE IT'S USED, IT'S USED.

SO WHAT ABOUT FOR THESE VEHICLES THAT BECOME DEFUNCT OR YOU, THE DEPARTMENT HAS DEEMED THAT THEY'RE NO LONGER NECESSARY? UM, WHAT'S THE PROCESS OF IF, IF YOU CAN SHARE A, ABOUT GETTING RID OF THEM AND WHERE DOES THE MONEY OR PROCEEDS IF YOU SELL THEM, WHERE DOES THAT GO? UH, SO, SO SPECIFIC TO THE, UH, ARMORED VEHICLES THAT WE RECEIVED THROUGH THE 10 33 PROGRAM, THEY ESSENTIALLY HAVE TO REENTER THE 10 33 PROGRAM.

SO WE CAN'T SELL THEM TO, TO AN OUTSIDE, UH, AGENCY.

UM, SIMILAR TO WE, WE, WE RECEIVED THAT VEHICLE FROM EL MONTE PD.

UM, THE SECOND ONE WAS IN MILITARY SURPLUS.

SO WE, WE CAN'T JUST SELL THEM ON THE OPEN MARKET.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION.

UH, COMMITTEE MEMBER OB STALER.

UM, I, I, I KNOW, UM, FROM PARTICIPATING IN THE LAST YEAR'S ANNUAL REPORT THAT THOSE BIG TANKS, THE CATEGORY, CATEGORY TWO, I CALL 'EM THE BIG TANKS, UM, WERE USED ONLY ONCE OUTSIDE OF TRAINING PURPOSES.

THIS YEAR IT WAS THREE TIMES.

THERE DEFINITELY DOES SEEM TO BE LIKE, THERE'S, THERE'S A NEED FOR SOMETHING.

BUT, UM, UH, CHIEF, YOU WERE QUOTED IN A ARTICLE, AND ERIC MENTIONED THIS IN HIS, ERIC LELAND MENTIONED THIS IN HIS COMMENT, THAT YOU WOULD PREFER A COMMERCIALLY MADE VEHICLE FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT RATHER THAN A BIG TANK.

AND I'M WONDERING IS THAT, ARE WE THINKING ABOUT DOING THAT TO HAVE TO GET THESE HUGE TANKS OUT OFF OF OUR STREETS? 'CAUSE IT DOES SEND THE WRONG MESSAGE TO THE COMMUNITY.

SO I THINK JUST FOR PREFACE, UH, TO CLARIFY, WE HAVE ARMORED PERSONNEL VEHICLES.

UM, I THINK INTENTIONALLY JUST TRYING TO CLARIFY THAT TO, TO PROVIDE THE JUX ATION AS OPPOSED TO A TANK.

SO THEY'RE WHEELED VEHICLES, BUT I I UNDERSTAND THEY'RE, THEY'RE LARGE.

UH, MANY PEOPLE FEEL THEY'RE IMPOSING.

THERE ARE COMMERCIALLY AVAILABLE MODELS LIKE LECO BEARCAT AS THE LIEUTENANT PRESENTED.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, WE'VE RUN INTO PREDICAMENTS WHERE OUR VEHICLES ARE TOO LARGE.

PETALUMA HAS VERY HISTORICAL ROADWAYS IN A DOWNTOWN AREA THAT IT'S DIFFICULT FOR US TO MANEUVER.

UM, AND SO FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE INCIDENTS THAT WE RESPOND TO, A A COMMERCIAL LAW ENFORCEMENT MODEL WOULD BE PROBABLY PREFERABLE TO THE TEAM.

UH, BUT THE REALITY IS, AS LIEUTENANT ANO MENTIONED, UH, THREE QUARTERS OF 1,000,700 $50,000 IS THE REPLACEMENT COST.

AND RIGHT NOW, UH, WE'RE A CITY WITH A, WITH MANY, MANY GOALS AND PRIORITIES.

AND I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER MAY BE ABLE TO, TO ADVOCATE FOR THAT.

UM, AND THERE'S COMPETING INTERESTS AND THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH FUNDING TO GO AROUND.

UM, WE ALSO, IN THE ONE SCENARIO WITH SANTA ROSA PD, THEY HAD A LEN COLBERT CAT, AND IT WAS NOT LARGE ENOUGH.

AND THEY ASKED OURS TO PUSH, UH, BE PLACED DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THE HOTEL ROOM WHERE THE ARMED SUBJECT WAS SHOOTING OUTSIDE OF THE ROOM.

UM, AND INDICATING HE WAS GOING TO SHOOT PEDESTRIANS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND SHOOT PASSING MOTORISTS.

AND WE COMPLETELY BLOCKED THE FRONT FACADE OF THE ENTIRE HOTEL.

AND, UH, HE NO LONGER WAS SHOOTING AND ENGAGING WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT.

AND THE, UH, INCIDENT CAME TO AN ABRUPT END SHORTLY THEREAFTER WITHOUT

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LAW ENFORCEMENT INTERVENTION.

SO I THINK MY POINT IN THAT IS WE, WE'D WELCOME OTHER OPPORTUNITIES.

WE'RE OPEN TO THE CONVERSATION.

UH, I THINK BOTH MYSELF AND FORMER CHIEF SAVA SAID OFTEN WE'D WELCOME LIVING IN A WORLD, IN A COMMUNITY WHERE MANY OF THESE ITEMS OF EQUIPMENT WEREN'T NECESSARY AND NEEDED.

UH, UNFORTUNATELY, UH, THROUGH THE PRESENTATION, THROUGH SOME OF OUR OWN, UH, INCIDENTS IN THIS COMMUNITY, WE, WE HAVE CRIMES OF VIOLENCE.

WE RESPOND TO VIOLENT SITUATIONS AND WE WISH IT WAS OTHERWISE.

UM, BUT WE'RE OPEN TO ALTERNATIVES.

WE JUST HAVEN'T FOUND AN ALTERNATIVE THAT'S AVAILABLE OR THAT THERE'S FISCALLY THE FUNDING AVAILABLE TO PROCURE THAT AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

UH, VICE CHAIR VERDE.

THANK YOU.

A COUPLE OF THINGS.

FIRST, I WANTED TO THANK THE, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE WHEN I ARRIVED HERE IN 2011, I WOULD WALK BY AND THERE WAS A, UH, MOTORIZED, UH, MOTORCYCLE POLICE.

I'LL SAY, GOOD MORNING.

THE GUY WOULDN'T EVEN LOOK AT ME.

NOWADAYS, YOU'RE SOCIALLY ACTIVE.

THESE PROOFS THE CARE YOU HAVE FOR ALL OF US.

AND, UM, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THE, UH, TRAINING AND FOCUS AND REFOCUS OF YOUR JOB.

'CAUSE IT'S NOTICEABLE AND WE AS CITIZENS, WE APPRECIATE IT.

AND, UH, TO MISS OSLER, UM, THE WORD TANK IS LIKE A HUGE THING WITH MACHINE GUNS AND CANNONS.

THIS IS TO PROTECT THE OFFICERS.

IT'S MONSTROUS , IT'S UGLY AS HECK, BUT IT PROTECTS THE LIFE OF OUR POLICEMEN AND OR THE RESCUED PEOPLE LIKE THE LADY THAT WAS RESCUED FROM THE ABUSIVE PARTNER.

SO IT'S, UH, THEY'RE UGLY, THEY'RE SCARY, AND I'D RATHER HAVE THEM SAFE THAN BE SHOOTING EVERYBODY AND, AND EXCESSIVELY.

BUT AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

COMMITTEE MEMBER SULLIVAN.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS, UH, WHEN YOU BUY THESE, ARE THESE THROUGH A GRANT OR, UM, IT IS THROUGH A GRANT.

SO, SO IT'S THROUGH A A FEDERAL GOVERNMENT YEAH.

PROVIDES THEM TO YOU.

SO, UM, THEY'RE BASICALLY POSTED ON OUR WEBSITE.

THERE'S EQUIPMENT OUT THERE THAT YOU CAN GO AND SEARCH THROUGH.

RIGHT.

AND OUR SENIOR MANAGEMENT ANALYST, UH, HELPED FIND THESE AND, UM, BECAME AVAILABLE AND WE WORKED THROUGH, UH, EL MONTE PD TO WORK THROUGH THAT TRANSFER.

MM-HMM.

.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE NOT SPENDING OTHER THAN HAVING TO TRANSPORT IT FROM EL MONTE.

RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO, THERE'S ASSOCIATED COST, BUT THE VEHICLE ITSELF DOESN'T COST ANYTHING.

AND I WILL JUST, UM, HIGHLIGHT THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE VEHICLES ARE OLD.

UM, THEY'RE WORN, UH, THEY REQUIRE MAINTENANCE AND, UM, WE'LL BE FORTUNATE TO KEEP THEM RUNNING AS AS THEY DO AGE.

UM, I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.

YEAH.

IT'S SAD THAT WE EVEN HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THIS NOWADAYS.

YEAH.

YOU KNOW, I AGREE.

BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE NEED TO PROTECT OUR POLICE AND OUR CITIZENS.

SO, UM, IT'S JUST MY SPIEL ON IT.

YEAH.

AND ALSO JUST LIKE TO POINT YOU IN THE REPORT, UM, I KNOW THAT YOU MENTIONED THE VEHICLES APPEARING IMPOSING.

WE VERY INTENTIONALLY USE THEM INFREQUENTLY.

WE, UH, HAVE A PRETTY STRINGENT REQUIREMENT ON WHEN ANY OF THE MILITARY EQUIPMENT WILL BE UTILIZED.

IT'S SUBJECT TO MULTIPLE LAYERS OF APPROVAL THROUGH DEPARTMENTAL COMMAND STAFF AND EXECUTIVE TEAM MEMBERS.

BUT WE ALSO, UH, STORE THE VEHICLE IN A SECURE LOCATION.

SO IT'S NOT VISIBLE, IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, IN THE PUBLIC SPACE, WE ARE NOT LEVERAGING IT OR INTENDING TO UTILIZE IT AS AN INTIMIDATING IMPOSING FORCE.

IT'S AN ESSENTIAL PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT WE USE SPARINGLY FOR THE RIGHT REASONS, IN THE RIGHT SITUATIONS ONLY WHEN ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY.

AND WE PUT IT AWAY OUT OF THE PUBLIC EYE ALL THE OTHER TIME AND WE WOULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, INCREDIBLY PLEASED IF WE COULD LEAVE IT STORED AND NOT HAVE TO REMOVE IT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, IT IT WOULD MAKE OUR REPORT A LOT SHORTER AS WELL.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE, COUNCIL MEMBER, POKAY FULLY? COUPLE OF VERY QUICK QUESTIONS.

ONE THING I HAVEN'T THOUGHT TO ASK BEFORE IS WHAT WOULD BE THE, THE BECK BEST PRACTICE TEACHING FOR WHEN YOU'RE USING A LESS LETHAL WEAPON OF WHERE YOU'RE AIMING IT? YEAH, SO EVERY KIND OF, UH, PIECE OF EQUIPMENT HAS DEFINED AREAS AND RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO A TASER IS DIFFERENT FROM A 40 MILLIMETER IS DIFFERENT FROM A BEAN BAG.

OUR POLICIES ARE VERY INTENTIONAL AND OUTLYING INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE, YOU KNOW, DISABILITIES THAT ARE PREGNANT, ELDERLY, FRAIL, ET CETERA, AS WELL AS AREAS OF THE BODY, GROIN SENSITIVE AREAS, FACE, HEAD NOT TO BE AIMING AT THOSE LOCATIONS, UM, FOR THOSE VERY REASONS.

OKAY.

UM, WE ALSO FIND GENERALLY, YOU KNOW, HIGH MASS AREAS, LARGE EXTREMITIES IN THE TORSO IS THE MOST ACCESSIBLE AREAS, BUT ALSO THE MOST IMPACTFUL FOR THESE, THESE INCIDENTS BECAUSE WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO GAIN COMPLIANCE

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AND HOPEFULLY IT'D BE A PAIN COMPLIANCE RESPONSE.

AND, AND I COULDN'T READ FAST ENOUGH, BUT ARE YOU GONNA HAVE ALL THE EQUIPMENT AT THE PETALUMA NIGHT OUT ON AUGUST 2ND? SO, UH, SOME OUR COMMAND VEHICLE, YOU SEE IT OFTEN.

UM, IT'LL BE DEFINITELY OUT.

SOME OF OUR OTHER EQUIPMENT MAY OR MAY NOT BE.

AGAIN, WE, WE BELABOR WE TRYING TO DETERMINE WHETHER IT'S APPROPRIATE IN THESE EVENTS OR NOT.

UH, WE DEFINITELY WILL NOT BE BRINGING OUR FLASH BANGS, OUR CERTAIN MUNITIONS.

I WOULD IMAGINE OUR DRONE TEAM, IF OUR OPERATORS ARE AVAILABLE, WILL BE FLYING IT THERE, SHOWING THE COMMUNITY WHAT WE CAN SEE, UM, IN THOSE AS WHAT THEY WOULD EXPECT IF WE WERE DEPLOYING IT IN THE FIELD.

BUT AUGUST 6TH, THAT WAS GONNA BE A, MY STAFF COMMENT AT THE, AT THE PETALUMA FAIRGROUNDS IS, UH, PETALUMA NIGHT OUT.

IT'S A PUBLIC SAFETY EVENT, BUT WE'VE TAKEN A CITY-CENTRIC APPROACH WHERE ALL OF OUR CITY DEPARTMENTS ARE NONPROFITS.

UH, THERE'S GONNA BE A BLOOD DRIVE, A SCHOOL DRIVE, UH, SCHOOL SUPPLY EVENT, UM, AT THE FAIRGROUNDS FROM FOUR TO 7:00 PM AND SOME OF OUR EQUIPMENT WILL BE THERE AND WE ENCOURAGE THE COMMUNITY TO COME OUT AND CHECK IT OUT.

I THANK THAT'S IT.

THANKS.

OKAY.

EXCUSE ME, CHIEF, WE ARE AT 7 46 AND SO WE NEED TO STILL OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

UH, ARE THERE ANY MA OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE? THANK YOU.

I HAD ONE QUESTION, AND IF WE'RE RUNNING OUTTA TIME, WE CAN TOTALLY DIG INTO THIS DEEPER LATER, BUT WE TALKED ABOUT THE DRONES SORT OF BEING NEW AND BEING STOOD UP.

I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE DRONE WITH THERMAL IMAGING THAT CAN LOOK THROUGH WALLS.

YOU MENTIONED SORT OF FOURTH AMENDMENT AND MAKING SURE THAT, UM, RIGHTS TO PRIVACY AND SEARCH ARE BEING RESPECTED.

I'D LOVE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT SORT OF HOW THAT POLICY PUT IN PLACE AND HOW WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT CITIZENS' PRIVACY ARE STILL BEING RESPECTED WITH DRONES THAT CAN LITERALLY SEE THROUGH WALLS AND SEE THROUGH PLACES WHERE PEOPLE, PEOPLE HAVE THAT EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY.

NO, SORRY TO CUT YOU OFF.

THE, UH, JUST, UM, FOR POINT OF CLARIFICATION, THE THERMAL IMAGING RELATES TO BEING ABLE TO SEE WARM SIGNATURES AT NIGHT, SO NOT NECESSARILY THROUGH WALLS.

UM, SO IN, IN, IN TERMS OF THE FOURTH AMENDMENT, WHEN WE USE DRONES TO GO INTO A HOUSE, UM, IT'S TYPICALLY IN SITUATIONS WHERE WE HAVE A SEARCH AND ARREST WARRANT OR THERE'S A CRITICAL INCIDENT.

IT'S NOT, UH, SOMETHING WHERE WE'RE JUST GONNA FLY A DRONE INTO A HOUSE.

UM, WE HAVE USED DRONES.

UM, WE'VE HAD THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT ASSIST US IN SWAT OPERATIONS WHEN WE HAVE USED DRONES TO PROVIDE OVERWATCH.

AND IT BASICALLY REPLACES THE HELICOPTER.

YOU KNOW, 10 YEARS AGO WE WOULD HAVE THE HELICOPTER FLYING ABOVE, UH, DISTURB ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS, GET SEVERAL CALLS.

NOW WE USE THAT IN PLACE OF THE DRONES.

THE DRONES CAN ALSO FLY INDOORS.

UM, SO FOR INSTANCE, WE, UH, ANNUALLY WE HOLD A TRAINING EVENT WHERE WE HAVE OUR CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM CARRY OUT A SCENARIO.

AND IN THAT EVENT, UM, BECAUSE WE'RE USING A SURROUNDING CALL TACTIC PRIMARILY, AND WHEN WE'RE ASKING, WE'RE STANDING BEHIND COVER ASKING RESIDENTS TO COME OUT, UM, WHAT THAT DOES IS IT PROVIDES THE SUSPECT AN OPPORTUNITY TO EITHER BARRICADE OR ARM THEMSELVES BECAUSE WE'VE LOST THE ELEMENT OF SURPRISE.

SO IT WOULD BE ADVANTAGEOUS FOR US TO PUT SOMETHING ELSE OTHER THAN AN OFFICER INTO THE HOUSE PRIOR, UM, TO MAKING ENTRY.

SO IN THOSE CIRCUM, IN THOSE UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES IS WHEN A DRONE WILL BE FLOWN INTO A HOUSE.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I'M GONNA ASK THE CITY CLERK IF WE'VE HAD ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS.

I KNOW WE RECEIVED ONE THAT WAS ATTACHED PREVIOUSLY.

YES.

SO WE DID RECEIVE ONE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS AGENDA ITEM, AND THAT HAS BEEN POSTED ON THE WEBSITE AND ON THE AGENDA.

THANK YOU.

UH, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS FROM PEOPLE IN ATTENDANCE TONIGHT? OKAY.

UM, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING IN PERSON SHOULD BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARDS TO THE CLERK'S DESK IF THEY HAVE NOT ALREADY DONE SO.

SPEAKERS ARE REMINDED TO BE RESPECTFUL IN THEIR COMMENTS.

UH, COUNTDOWN WILL APPEAR FOR THE CONVENIENCE OF THE SPEAKER AND VIEWERS, AND THE FIRST SPEAKER WILL BE ACKNOWLEDGED AND INVITED TO SPEAK WHEN THE COUNTDOWN BEGINS.

ANYBODY SEEING NONE? I WOULD MOVE TO CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND, UH, SO AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO CARRY ITEMS OVER.

SO FOR THE SAKE OF TIME, WE INTENDED WITH OUR FINAL STAFF ITEM WAS REALLY, THESE ARE ALL PUBLICLY AVAILABLE ITEMS AND REPORTS ALREADY IN EXISTENCE.

WE KNOW THEY'RE WEIGHTY.

WE KNOW YOU HAVE TIME AND WANT TO PROBABLY STRATEGIZE ON HOW YOU WANT TO CHUNK OFF, UH, MOVING THROUGH THOSE IN ADVANCE OF MEETINGS.

BUT, UH, REALLY WAS TO, TO PRIMER POTENTIAL FUTURE DISCUSSIONS, SHARE THESE WITH YOU IN ADVANCE AND TRANSMIT THEM.

UM, SO WE MAY NOT BE GETTING TO THE FINAL ITEM TONIGHT, BUT WE ALSO INTENDED NOT NECESSARILY TO HAVE DISCUSSION AND TO COMMIT A FURTHER MEETINGS TO THOSE, UM, INDIVIDUALLY.

UM, SO AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I THINK WE'RE GONNA CLOSE ALL THE ITEMS AND, UH, PUBLIC HEARING MATTERS FOR THE NIGHT.

I WOULD OPEN IT TO ANYONE ON THE COMMITTEE

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IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS, UM, FOR THE PUBLIC AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

UM, WE ALSO DIDN'T ASK YOU TO PREPARE ANYTHING.

THESE WOULD GENERALLY BE REPORT OUTS OR ANYTHING NOTABLE THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE.

UM, AND, UH, SO

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AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I WOULD JUST ASK IF ANYONE HAS ANYTHING NOTABLE THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SHARE? UM, OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND I

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THINK, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER SKE STOLE MY, UH, ONE STAFF COMMENT, WHICH WAS REALLY, UH, PETALUMA NIGHT OUT AUGUST 6TH.

THE ONLY OTHER THING WE WILL SAY IS WE HAVE BEEN SHARING WITH THE COMMUNITY THIS WEEK, UH, AND WE SHARED WITH BOTH COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEMBERS VIA EMAIL EARLIER TODAY ARE WE ARE ARE RECENTLY ISSUING DISTRICT NEWSLETTERS.

SO DISTRICT POLICING IS A MODEL OF COMMUNITY POLICING WE DEPLOY HERE.

WE HAVE INDIVIDUAL OFFICERS IN INDIVIDUAL NEIGHBORHOODS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.

WE WANT YOU TO KNOW THEM.

WE WANT THE COMMUNITY TO KNOW THEM, AND WE WANT TO HEAR FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, AS A COMMUNITY RESIDENT, I FEEL THAT WE ALL KNOW OUR NEIGHBORHOODS BEST AND WE SHOULD SHARE OUR EXPERIENCES WITH OUR OFFICERS THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THOSE AREAS TO WORK ON THE ISSUES THAT MATTER MOST TO OUR COMMUNITY.

SO PLEASE CHECK THOSE OUT.

THEY'RE ACCESSIBLE ON OUR DISTRICT POLICING PAGE AND AT THIS POINT WE WILL ADJOURN THE MEETING AT 7 51.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.