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MEETING.[CALL TO ORDER]
UH, OKAY.THE, UM, THE AUGUST 8TH, 2024 PETALUMA TRANSIT ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS CALLED THE ORDER AT 4:00 PM SHARP.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE ROLL ABRAMS COLE ROSS.
THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS PUBLIC COMMENT.
[GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT]
DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON ITEMS OF PUBLIC INTERESTS THAT ARE WITHIN THE CITY COUNCIL SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION, AND THAT ARE NOT LISTED ON THE CURRENT AGENDA.THAT ARE NOT LISTED ON THE CURRENT PUBLIC AGENDA.
PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED UP TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON.
DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF PERSONS WISHING TO ADDRESS, UH, THE COMMITTEE TIME WILL BE ALLOCATED IN EQUAL SHARES TOTALING NO MORE THAN 20 MINUTES.
UH, SUBJECT TO, UH, THE COMMITTEE'S DISCRETION, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT TAKES US
[PRESENTATIONS]
ON TO PRESENTATIONS? UH, MR. HALL, WOULD YOU LIKE TO PROCEED WITH THE PRESENTATION? YES.UH, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, MEMBERS OF THE TRANSIT ADVISORY COMMITTEE, GREAT TO SEE EVERYONE AGAIN.
UM, SO AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE WORKING ON SEVERAL EXCITING PROJECTS.
WE JUST LAUNCHED OUR FAIR FREE PROGRAM JULY 1ST, ABOUT A MONTH AGO, AND THAT'S GOING GREAT.
WE WANTED TO COME BACK AND GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON A PROJECT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY.
IT'S OUR MICRO TRANSIT PROJECT.
AND SO MARIA IS HERE TO GIVE US A UPDATE PRESENTATION ON EVERYTHING.
LET ME GO AHEAD AND START BY SHARING MY SCREEN TO ENSURE THAT WORKS.
UM, SO WHAT I'M GONNA BE GOING OVER TODAY IS IT, IT, WE HAVE SOME NEW, UH, MEMBERS.
SO I KIND OF WANNA DO A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF MICROT TRANSIT, BUT I'LL BE FAIRLY BRIEF WITH IT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT A LOT OF YOU ARE OVERLY AWARE OF WHAT MICROT TRANSIT IS.
UM, I'LL HAVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR QUESTIONS AS WE GO THROUGH, UM, BUT I DIDN'T WANNA GO INTO TOO DEEP OF DETAIL.
UM, BUT TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE AS WELL AS A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THE PROJECT.
SO IT'LL BE A GOOD REFRESHER FOR EVERYONE AS, AS THIS BEGINS TO LAUNCH.
I ALWAYS LIKE TO PUT IT, HELLO.
IT WAS NOT OUR BUS THAT WAS LATE, RIGHT?
I WAS LIKE, WAIT, NO,
UM, SO I ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, WANNA MAKE THE TEACHER AND ME WANTS TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS AWARE OF WHAT MICRO TRANSIT IS, RIGHT? SO, UM, HERE ON THE SCREEN, YOU HAVE A FEW DIFFERENT EXAMPLES OF DIFFERENT LAUNCHES IN THE BAY AREA, UM, AND BEYOND.
UH, BUT AT THE HEART OF IT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A GREAT DESCRIPTION FOR, FROM, YOU KNOW, CALIFORNIA STRAIGHT LEGISLATURE.
IT'S BASICALLY AN IT ENABLED MULTI PASSENGER TRANSPORTATION SERVICE THAT SERVES PASSENGERS USING DYNAMICALLY GENERATED ROUTES, UM, TO TAKE THEM FROM COMMON PICKUP AND DROP OFF POINTS.
UM, THEY TEND TO USE LARGE SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES, VANS OR SHUTTLE BUSES.
NOT THE BEST DEFINITION, BUT IT'S THE ONE, THE ONE THAT'S OUT THERE.
THE WAY I LIKE TO DESCRIBE IT IS THERE'S GREAT BENEFITS.
MICRO TRANSIT, BASICALLY AS AN APP BASED, UM, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST, IT'S A APP BASE SHUTTLE SERVICE.
SO YOU DESIGNATE A ZONE FOR SERVICE.
UH, YOU CAN REQUEST A RIDE USING YOUR PHONE OR CALLING IN.
IT'S NICE BECAUSE SOME OF THE BENEFITS, IT'S VERY FLEXIBLE, RIGHT? SOME OF THE COMPLAINTS ABOUT TRADITIONAL FIXED ROUTE OR THAT WE DON'T WANNA GET TO A BUS STOP.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND A SCHEDULE.
SO THIS REALLY KIND OF MITIGATES THOSE CONCERNS BECAUSE THE BUS STOP COMES TO YOU
I'LL GO THROUGH, UM, ABOUT EVERY 300 FEET.
UM, FOLKS WILL REQUEST A RIDE FROM THEIR PHONE.
SO WE'RE USING PARATRANSIT VEHICLES.
UM, I ALWAYS LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE WITH A ROUTE, IF WE MAKE A ROUTE CHANGE, WE HAVE TO PRINT A WHOLE RIDE RIDE.
WE HAVE TO DO A LOT OF OUTREACH.
THERE'S, THERE'S ALL THESE STEPS WITH MICRO TRANSIT, BECAUSE THE COMMUNICATION IS BETWEEN THE PERSON AND THE APP.
WE CAN MAKE SLIGHT CHANGES TO THE APP AS WE NEED TO.
IT ALSO REALLY MEETS CURRENT ON DEMAND EXPECTATIONS.
I THINK THAT'S THE BIGGEST SELLING POINT OF MICRO TRANSIT.
UM, NOWADAYS IN TODAY'S LIKE ON DEMAND KIND OF, UM, SOCIETY, RIGHT? WE EXPECT OUR GAZEBO, OUR LUNCH AS WELL AS RIGHT, OUR UBER RIDE TO ALL BE ABLE TO COME TO OUR DOOR INSTANTLY.
SO THIS IS TRULY UBER, LYFT, OR ON-DEMAND SERVICE MEETS THE BUS.
UM, SOME OF THE LIMITATIONS, AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THROUGHOUT THIS IS THAT IT IS A NEW HABIT.
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EXAMPLE, WITH OUTREACH, TYPICALLY OUTREACH ACTUALLY HAPPENS AFTER IT'S LAUNCHED BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO ASK THE PUBLIC WHAT THEY WANT WHEN IT'S A SERVICE THAT'S NEVER BEEN OUT THERE.IT'S REALLY HARD TO UNDERSTAND.
UM, THERE IS, IT'S A DEMAND MODEL.
SO UNLIKE FIXED ROUTE WHERE WE HAVE A BIG BUS AND EVERYONE GETS A SEAT OR CAN STAND, THERE'S GONNA BE A NO RIDE AVAILABLE.
AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST.
UM, THE EFFICACY OF THE SERVICE IS CLOSELY TIED TO THE APP USAGE, WHICH IS A LIMITATION, RIGHT? WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS WHO DON'T LIKE TO USE A SMARTPHONE.
AND SO WHEN THEY CALL IN, ALTHOUGH THAT'S AN OPTION, I ALWAYS LIKE TO BE TRANSPARENT, YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET THE SAME EXPERIENCE, RIGHT? BECAUSE PART OF THE BENEFIT OF THIS IS IF I REQUEST A RIDE TO CITY HALL, I CAN SIT HERE UNTIL I SEE MY BUS IS COMING.
I SEE MY BUS IS COMING, THEN I CAN GO STAND OUT THERE WITH CALLING IN.
I'M GONNA GET A RIDE PROJECTION, BUT I'M NOT GONNA KNOW.
SO I'M GONNA KEEP KIND OF LOOKING OUT THE DOOR AND SEEING IF IT'S THERE.
SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THOSE LIMITATIONS.
UM, FIXED ROUTE IS ALWAYS THE MOST EFFICIENT AND COST EFFECTIVE.
I WAS TRYING TO EXPLAIN MICROT TRANSIT RECENTLY TO MY HUSBAND A LITTLE BIT MORE.
I WAS THINKING ABOUT HOW, UM, A LOT OF TRANSIT AGENCIES STARTED AS DIAL AIDE OR ON DEMAND SERVICES BACK IN THE DAY.
AND THEN WHAT HAPPENED WAS, THERE GOT TO BE SO MUCH DEMAND, THE LITTLE VEHICLES COULDN'T RIGHT? TAKE ON ON EVERYTHING.
SO THEY REALIZED, OKAY, EVERYBODY'S GOING THE SAME DIRECTION.
AND THEN FIXED ROUTE GETS PUT IN.
SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HOW THIS COULD POTENTIALLY HAPPEN WITH MICRO TRANSIT, ALTHOUGH IT'S A GREAT SERVICE, IF THE DEMAND IS TOO HIGH, WE NEED TO RETURN IT TO FIXED ROUTE BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE WILL BE PUTTING THREE VEHICLES ON THE ROAD AND THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, KIND OF, YOU KNOW, NOT BE THE POINT OF THE WHOLE SERVICE.
SO THAT'S WHAT MICRO TRANSIT IS.
AND NOW WE'RE GONNA SEE WHAT OUR MICRO TRANSIT IS.
UM, I'M GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR PROGRESS ON THIS.
SO, UM, A SHORT VERSION OF HOW THIS CAME TO, UH, PEDAL MID TRANSIT WAS BASICALLY SOME OF THE COUNCIL'S GOALS IN TERMS OF GETTING MORE PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR SINGLE OCCUPANCY VEHICLES.
THIS WAS ONE OF THE RESPONSES, INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, FAIR FREE.
SO THIS IS JUST ONE OF THE RESPONSES TO THAT.
WE'VE, UM, WE TALKED ABOUT, I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE 'CAUSE UH, THESE ARE SOME OF LIKE THE PROBLEMS AND SOLUTIONS WE TALKED ABOUT, KIND OF TRYING TO IDENTIFY HOW WE WERE GONNA LAUNCH THIS SERVICE.
UM, I THINK THE AD HOC TEAM FOR MEETING WITH US FOR ALMOST A YEAR, JUST TO GO OVER WHAT ARE SOME OF THE THINGS WE WOULD FOCUS ON.
UM, BUT THE MAIN GOAL, EXCUSE ME, I SHOULD GO BACK, WAS INCREASING RIDERSHIP AMONG NEVER RIDERS.
I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF THE MAIN FOCUS POINTS.
UM, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, SHELTERING WITH DIGNITY, YOU KNOW, THAT WE COULD ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS AROUND FIXED ROUTE, BUT MAINLY BRINGING NEW RIDER TO TRANSIT AND AVOID CANNIBALIZING OUR FIXED ROUTE.
I ALWAYS LIKE TO MENTION THAT AS WELL.
WE, WITH THE AD HOC, JUST, I, AGAIN, DON'T WANNA GO INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL 'CAUSE WE'VE COVERED THIS IN PAST MEETINGS, BUT WE DID, I DID DO OUTREACH, THE MARKETING AND AS WELL AS THE WHOLE STAFF.
UM, THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF SOME OF THE OUTREACH.
SO THIS WAS AN ELECTRONIC FORMAT THAT WENT OUT TO, I DON'T HAVE ALL THE NUMBERS HERE, IT'S REPORTED IN THE PAST.
BUT COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO SAY LIKE, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE PLACES YOU WOULD LIKE MICRO TRANSIT TO BE? UM, WHAT YOU'LL NOTICE THOUGH, IS ALL THESE LINES ARE ACTUALLY OUR CURRENT ROUTES.
SO THIS IS ONE OF THE CONCERNS OR THINGS WE'RE TRYING TO MITIGATE, IS LET'S NOT TRY TO OVERLAP WITH FIXED ROUTE.
SO THIS ALSO GAVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO EDUCATE FOLKS ON OUR FIXED ROUTE SERVICE.
OH, HEY, YOU WANT AN EAST WEST CONNECTOR? GUESS WHAT? WE HAVE THAT
SO IT'S BEEN A, A, A GOOD PRACTICE FOR SURE.
THE AD HOC CAME UP WITH SOME DIFFERENT ZONE OPTIONS, UM, THAT WE WENT THROUGH.
AND WE'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY KIND OF MANAGING THAT WITH, AS WELL AS THE OTHER EXPECTATIONS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT AT THE TABLE.
THE NEEDS OF THE, YOU KNOW, PETAL LIMBUS, TRANSIT, UM, TRANSIT IN GENERAL, EXCUSE ME.
UM, THESE ZONE MAPS WERE JUST DIFFERENT ITERATIONS, AND I WON'T GO INTO DETAIL, BUT WHAT'S NICE ABOUT THEM IS WE CAN KEEP THEM FOR POTENTIALLY FUTURE PHASES, RIGHT? THIS FIRST PHASE, THE GOAL IS JUST TO MAKE IT SUCCESSFUL.
NOT NECESSARILY MEET EVERY NEED, BUT TO SEE IF ANYONE IS ACTUALLY INTERESTED IN THIS.
AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT THIS FIRST PILOT IS ALL ABOUT.
SO YOU GOT A SNEAK PEEK LAST TIME I WAS HERE, BUT TODAY I'M GONNA GO INTO MUCH MORE DETAIL ABOUT WHAT OUR MICRO TRANSIT WILL LOOK LIKE.
UM, SO, UM, I MAY BE A LITTLE BIT BIASED, I THINK, BUT UM, AS YOU CAN TELL, IT'S GONNA HAVE A VERY DIFFERENT LOOK AND FEEL FROM RIGHT PETALUMA TRANSIT.
AND PART OF THAT DECISION WAS THAT WE MAY DO A REBRANDING OF THE ENTIRE AGENCY.
SO THIS WAS ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY TO TRY OUT A DIFFERENT BRANDING, KIND OF SEE HOW THE ENERGY IS AROUND IT, AND THEN MAYBE WE'LL PUT SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS INTO OUR FIXED OR PARATRANSIT KIND OF FUTURE.
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THESE ARE SOME SCREENSHOTS OF THE APP AND THE APP ICON.SO, UM, BASICALLY RIGHT HERE, OH YES, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THESE ARE WHAT WE'D CALL LIKE THE APP LAUNCHER.
UM, SO THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR IN THE APP STORE.
UM, THIS IS WHAT WE'D CALL WHITE LABEL APP, WHICH MEANS IT'S PERSONALIZED TO PETALUMA, RIGHT? SO, UM, ANYONE CAN USE IT FOR SURE, BUT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR LUMA GO.
THIS IS THE LANDING PAGE THAT THEY'LL GET.
AND THIS LITTLE VEHICLE DRIVES RIGHT THROUGH.
I WAS EXCITED THAT THEY COULD INCORPORATE OUR CITYSCAPE.
WE HAD A DESIGNER WORK ON IT BECAUSE TYPICALLY THERE'S A GENERIC CITYSCAPE THAT'S USED.
BUT I THINK THE FEELING AND THE GOAL OF THIS WAS WE REALLY WANT, UM, ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF PETAL LUPE TRANSIT IS IT'S A LOCAL BUS AGENCY, 13 DRIVERS WHO KNOW THE PEOPLE WHO RIDE.
AND WE WANTED TO KEEP THAT KIND OF FEEL.
SO I, I WANTED IT TO KIND OF APPEAR LIKE IT'S A COMMUNITY MEMBER.
UM, HERE'S KIND OF A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT YOU'LL SEE WHEN YOU OPEN THE APP.
SO YOU'LL HAVE YOUR NAME IN THE CORNER, YOU'LL HAVE LIKE INFORMATION PROMOS, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS OBVIOUSLY NOT ALIVE BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T LAUNCHED YET, BUT GIVES YOU A SENSE OF WHAT THE INTERFACE LOOKS LIKE.
WHERE WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO? THEN YOU GET THIS RIDE PROPOSAL, WHICH YOU CAN EITHER ACCEPT OR DENY IF YOU WANT.
UM, SO IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
THERE'LL BE A PHONE NUMBER TO CALL IN.
AND I WAS, I LOVE THE IT GROUP GOT ME
HOPEFULLY THAT'LL BE EASY TO REMEMBER.
UM, WE HAD PASSED AROUND SOME OF THE WRAP DRAFTS.
UM, WE ARE STILL FINALIZING THE WRAP.
THESE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE ARE, ARE WHAT WE'RE GOING WITH.
HOWEVER, WHAT IT IS MISSING IS ALL THE INFORMATION.
SO THE WRAP, OR I SHOULD SAY THE BUS IS REALLY THE ADVERTISEMENT.
IT, IT'S THE EX EXPLANATION OF WHAT THIS IS.
SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN FUTURE ITERATIONS OR THE, THE FINAL DRAFT WILL BE A HAND WITH A PHONE.
YOU KNOW, IT'LL REALLY EXPLAIN STEP ONE, TWO, AND THREE.
IT WILL HAVE SPANISH ON THERE AS WELL, BECAUSE I REALLY WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS AND BIG AND BOLD EVERYWHERE.
PETALUMA'S FREE ON DEMAND SHUTTLE.
SO THAT'LL, THAT'S REALLY GONNA HIT HARD.
AND WE'LL HAVE A QR CODE, SO IF PEOPLE SEE IT, WHICH THEY WILL, THEY CAN JUST SCAN IT, IT'LL TAKE 'EM DIRECTLY TO THE APP STORE LAUNCH.
SO, TENTATIVE LAUNCH DATE HAS LITERALLY, UH,
AND WE DISCUSSED TODAY, THERE'S SOME ISSUES WITH THE WRAP AS WELL AS THE MAP, BUT ALL GOOD THINGS THERE ARE NO, NOTHING NEGATIVE, BUT IT, WE ARE HOPING TO, UH, LAUNCH AT THE END OF AUGUST.
IT'S LOOKING MORE LIKE THE END OF SEPTEMBER AT THIS POINT.
UM, WE CAN ALWAYS SEND OUT A FINALIZED DATE FOR YOU.
UM, BUT I'M, I'M HAPPY WITH A LITTLE MORE SPACE
YOU'LL SEE, UM, THAT WE'RE, WE'RE TE WE TENTATIVELY HAVE, UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY WE'RE GOING, OR SATURDAY, FRIDAY AND SATURDAY PRETTY LATE 10 O'CLOCK, RIGHT? BECAUSE ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WAS, HEY, ONE OF THE COMPLAINTS OR CONCERNS WE'VE HEARD IN THE COMMUNITY IS, I WANNA HAVE A MEAL.
I WANNA GO HERE, BUT I CAN'T BECAUSE THERE'S NO BUSES AFTER WHATEVER TIME, RIGHT? UM, SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT BEING ABLE TO OFFER SOME EVENING SERVICE TO, TO THE DOWNTOWN.
I'M GONNA GET TO THE ZONE IN A LITTLE BIT.
UM, BUT THIS IS, THE ACTUAL VEHICLE OBVIOUSLY HASN'T BEEN WRAPPED YET, BUT IT DOES HAVE SPACE FOR THREE BIKES ON OUR BIKE RACK.
SO WHAT'S REALLY NICE ABOUT THIS IS WHEN YOU HAVE THE APP, IT'LL ACTUALLY, YOU CAN PUT, I HAVE A BIKE.
SO SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS WHEN YOU'RE ON FIXED ROUTE IS YOU HAVE YOUR BIKE, BUT THE BI THE BUS COMES AND ALL THE BIKE ROCKS ARE TAKEN.
OKAY, I GUESS I HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE NEXT, IN THIS CASE, YOU'LL BE RESERVING A, A SEAT AS WELL AS A SEAT FOR YOUR BIKE, AND IN SOME CASES A SEAT FOR YOUR WHEELCHAIR.
AND WE HAVE THE LIFT IN THE BACK.
SOME OF THE SETUPS THAT WE'VE DONE RIGHT NOW ARE, WE HAVE TO DETERMINE HOW LONG WE WANT PEOPLE TO WAIT FOR THE VEHICLE.
SO THIS IS WHERE I ALWAYS LIKE TO SAY, AND I FEEL LIKE I SAY IT A THOUSAND TIMES, WE ARE SETTING UP THE SERVICE FOR WHAT WE BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE.
THE NEXT SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR WILL CREATE WHAT IT IS, RIGHT? SO THE RIDERS AND THE DRIVERS WILL GIVE US FEEDBACK IN THESE SIX MONTHS, RIGHT? OF WHAT THEY, WHAT THEY EXPECT, WHAT THEY WANT, AND THEN WE WILL CHANGE IT.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE IT SET THAT YOU'LL ONLY WAIT 30 MINUTES FOR A RIDE.
YOU WOULD, IF I REQUEST A RIDE TO COME TO PICK ME UP AT CITY HALL, I'M NEVER GONNA SEE SOMETHING BEYOND 30 MINUTES.
IT'LL ALWAYS BE WITHIN 30 MINUTES.
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VEHICLE'S BUSY AND IT CAN'T GET TO ME WITHIN 30 MINUTES, I'LL GET A RIDE DENIAL.BUT WHEN WE GET FEEDBACK, WE MAY FIND THAT PEOPLE HAVE A LITTLE MORE ABILITY TO WAIT LONGER.
THERE ARE RURAL AREAS WITH MICRO TRANSIT.
THEIR ON DEMAND WAIT TIME IS FOUR HOURS.
THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE SAID IT AT.
AND I ASKED THEM, I SAID, WHY WOULD ANYBODY WANNA DO THAT? THEY SAID, BECAUSE THEY HAD NO SERVICE AT ALL.
SO FOR THEM, WAITING FOUR HOURS IS A HUGE IMPROVEMENT.
AND THEY WOULD RATHER BE ABLE TO SAY, OKAY, IN THREE HOURS, MY VEHICLE'S COMING THAN NEVER HAVE ANYTHING AT ALL.
SO YOU CAN SEE HOW THAT, THAT TIME IS GOING TO BE DETERMINANT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT OUR COMMUNITY WANTS.
SO RIGHT NOW IT'S SET AT 30 MINUTES, BUT IF WE START GETTING FEEDBACK, HEY, MAYBE PEOPLE WILL WAIT 45, WE'LL PUSH IT OUT.
THE SAME THING, WHAT WE CALL DETOUR TOLERANCE.
SO AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS A SHARED RIDE, RIGHT? THAT'S THE GOAL.
SO IF I'M GOING FROM CITY HALL TO SMART RIGHT NOW, HOW MANY TIMES DO I WANT THIS VEHICLE TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE AND PICK SOMEONE UP? IT'S INTERESTING, THE FIRST TWO TIMES YOU'RE LIKE, OH, THIS IS SO GREAT.
THE FOURTH TIME YOU'RE LIKE, OKAY, I NEED TO GET THE SMART RIGHT NOW.
RIGHT? SO THIS IS WHAT WE'VE SET UP RIGHT NOW IS THAT IT SHOULDN'T BE ANY MORE THAN 15 MINUTES, BUT AGAIN, THAT MAY BE SOMETHING WE CHANGE BASED ON CUSTOMER AS WELL AS DRIVER FEEDBACK.
SO YOUR INITIAL PACKET HAS THIS AS THE SERVICE AREA.
UM, AND THIS IS THE SERVICE AREA, BUT WE, WE HAVE DONE SOME CHANGES THAT I WILL GO OVER WITH YOU.
OH YES, I DID PUT IT IN THE, I DID ADD IT.
SO, UM, THIS IS WHAT YOU HAD IN YOUR ORIGINAL SLIDE DECK.
UM, I CAN STILL USE THIS TO GO OVER SOME OF THE POINTS OF INTEREST.
SO YOU SEE, HERE'S THE 1 0 1, UM, THE LIBRARY FAIRGROUNDS, SMART STATION, UM, CITY HALL, DOWNTOWN, ET CETERA.
BUT AS I SAID, WE MADE SOME CHANGES.
ONE OF THE CONCERNS WAS THAT WE WERE NOT GOING, UM, ACROSS THE FREEWAY.
UM, AND WE DID THAT INITIALLY BECAUSE WE WANTED TO MAINTAIN RIDE TIME AND WAIT TIMES.
BUT, UM, AFTER SOME CONSIDERATION, WE ARE EXTENDING.
UM, AND SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS THE UPDATED MAP.
IT'S NOT PERFECT 'CAUSE OF COURSE WE'VE JUST BEEN WORKING ON THIS.
UM, AND SO NOW IT WILL INCLUDE SAFEWAY, UH, THE FAMILY SCHOOL AT MCDOWELL, UM, THE SENIOR CENTER, WHICH IT WAS SO FUN 'CAUSE I WENT AND PRESENTED AT THE SENIOR ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
SO IT'S SO FUN TO GET TO TELL THEM TODAY THAT THEY'RE GONNA GET TO USE THIS SERVICE.
IT'S TEMPTED TO ALLOW THIS TO CREEP, RIGHT? BECAUSE NOW I'M SAYING, OH LOOK, WE EXTENDED HERE AND OH NOW, RIGHT? IT'S REALLY EASY TO SAY, LET'S KEEP MOVING IT.
OUR JOB IS TO MAKE SURE THIS IS SUSTAINABLE, RIGHT? IS TO MAKE SURE THIS DOESN'T IMPLODE AND IT AND IT ON ITSELF.
AND SO THESE ARE THE LINES WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HOLD FOR THE SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR.
SO AS I KNOW YOU'RE ALL KIND OF SPEAKING ABOUT THIS, UM, JUST LET PEOPLE KNOW, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CAN MAINTAIN THIS SERVICE.
THIS IS WHAT OPERATIONALLY WE BELIEVE WE CAN DO WITH THE KNOWLEDGE WE HAVE.
SO I DON'T WANNA KEEP EXTENDING.
ALSO, WE DON'T WANNA CUT IN AGAIN TO FIXED ROUTE BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS ALSO GONNA BE TAKING AWAY POTENTIALLY FROM ROUTE 11, WHICH IS NOT THE GOAL.
SO THIS IS WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
JARED, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO ADD ON THE MAP.
I'LL KEEP GOING, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE TO BREATHE.
AND AGAIN, I'LL, I'LL HAPPY TO GO BACK TO ANY OF THESE SLIDES FOR MORE QUESTIONS.
UM, 'CAUSE I COULD TALK ABOUT THIS FOREVER, AS YOU ALL KNOW.
I ALWAYS LIKE PEOPLE TO KNOW KIND OF HOW THIS WORKS.
SO THEY'RE VIRTUAL BUS STOPS MAINLY ON EVERY STREET CORNER.
UM, EXCEPT FOR WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T STOP, RIGHT? LIKE SO DOWN DOWNTOWN FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S AREAS WHERE WE WOULDN'T HAVE A CORNER TO STOP ON.
SO WE'RE HAVING TO DESIGNATE SPOTS.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, NEXT TO PUTNAM OR, UM, WITH THE STARBUCKS ACROSS THE STREET FROM THERE IN FRONT OF THE TOY STORE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A DESIGNATED SPOT.
THE BUSINESS OWNERS WERE ACTUALLY REALLY EXCITED.
I WAS A LITTLE SCARED 'CAUSE I'M TAKING AWAY A, YOU KNOW, A PARKING SPACE.
BUT THEY RECOGNIZE, YOU KNOW, NOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE LOTS OF PEOPLE, RIGHT? RATHER THAN ONE PERSON GET OUTTA THAT VEHICLE IN THAT ONE SPOT AND HOLD IT FOR SEVERAL HOURS.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE A VEHICLE BRINGING, TAKING IN, YOU KNOW, PE PEOPLE BACK AND FORTH.
UM, SO THOSE ARE THE ONLY AREAS THAT WE HAVE LIKE REALLY DESIGNATED SPACES.
BUT GENERALLY THERE WILL BE NO BUS STOP SIGNS.
YOU'LL BE DIRECTED IN THE APP EXCEPTION, PEOPLE WITH MOBILITY ISSUES.
SO IF YOU HAVE A WHEELCHAIR OR YOU HAVE MOBILITY ISSUES, THERE'LL BE A WAY TO DESIGNATE THAT IN THE APP SO THAT WE ARE GOING AS CLOSE TO YOUR DOOR AS POSSIBLE ZONE PILOT DATA.
WE'RE GONNA LEARN SO MUCH THE GOAL OF THIS AS A SUCCESSFUL PILOT AND CAPTURING A BROAD DEMOGRAPHIC.
SO THAT WAS ANOTHER COMPONENT OF THE ZONE WE SELECTED.
IT WASN'T JUST ABOUT, OKAY, THIS, THIS MAKES SENSE AND PEOPLE WANT THIS, BUT IT WAS, HOW CAN WE GET A LITTLE SLICE OF EVERYBODY THAT MIGHT USE THIS SERVICE? YOU KNOW, SENIORS, YOUTH VISITORS, TOURISTS, PEOPLE WHO WORK DOWNTOWN.
SO THIS PARTICULAR ZONE ALLOWS US TO GET THE WIDEST
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SWATH.UM, WE'LL GET MIXED, UH, LAND USE DATA TOO BECAUSE WE'RE USING, DOING SEVERAL THINGS THERE.
WE WILL, UM, BE ABLE TO REVIEW CUSTOMER SATISFACTION AND REVIEW CAPACITY.
SO, LIKE I SAID, IF WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF THOSE RIDE DENIALS, WE'LL HAVE A SENSE OF WHY IS THAT.
SO WE'RE GONNA A LOT OF DATA IN THAT FIRST SIX MONTHS.
HOWEVER,
UM, BECAUSE WHAT'S REALLY EXCITING IS THERE ARE SO MANY WONDERFUL COMMUNITY GROUPS WITHIN THE ZONE.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, PETALUMA CITY SCHOOLS HAD ALL OF THEIR, UM, I THINK IT WAS CALLED A LEADERSHIP DAY.
UM, THEY CAME TO, TO THE TRANSIT CENTER, UM, ON MC NORTH MCDOWELL.
AND THEIR DISTRICT OFFICE IS WITHIN THE ZONE.
SO WE'RE GONNA DO SOMETHING SPECIAL WITH THEM TO TEACH EVERYBODY WHO WORKS IN THAT.
UM, I JUST GOT THIS AFTERNOON WAS WITH THE PETALUMA WOMEN'S UM, CLUB.
THEY'RE GOING, THEY'RE IN THE ZONE.
SO WE'RE GONNA DO A SPECIAL DAY.
I THINK THEY'VE DECIDED THE FIRST WEEK OF OCTOBER WHERE I'M GONNA GO WITH THEM AND WE'RE GONNA TEACH THEM ALL HOW TO USE IT AND GET ON THE VEHICLE.
BLUE ZONES, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM, EXCUSE ME, TO WORK A DUI KIND OF CAMPAIGN.
SO WHEN THERE IS ALCOHOL AT AN EVENT, BLUE ZONES WILL COME IN AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA BE CAUTIOUS, SO HOW ARE YOU GETTING PEOPLE HOME? AND THEY'LL BE ABLE TO UTILIZE, UH, LUMA GO TO DO THAT.
SO THIS SERVICE IS GONNA LOOK DIFFERENT TO EVERYONE BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO SERVE A DIFFERENT PURPOSE EITHER FOR YOUR LATE NIGHT, YOU KNOW, LET'S PARTY FOR YOUR AFTERNOON.
HEY, I JUST WANT A CUP OF COFFEE AND I'M A PARATRANSIT USER, BUT I WANT A CUP OF COFFEE NOW AND I DON'T WANNA BOOK IT IN THREE DAYS.
I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO GO TO, UM, PEP HOUSING, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT.
THERE'S A FEW OF THOSE IN THE ZONE.
WE'RE GONNA DO A SPECIAL OUTREACH WITH THEM.
SO I AM OVERLY ECSTATIC ABOUT ALL OF THE EXCITEMENT AROUND THIS AND THAT THIS WILL REALLY BE MORE THAN ANYTHING LAUNCHED BY THE GROUPS THAT THIS WILL SERVE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
THAT'S WHAT I HAVE RIGHT NOW FOR YOU.
SO I'M SURE THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT.
PLEASE, UM, LET ME KNOW OR NOTHING AT ALL.
SORRY, I WAS GONNA OPEN UP FOR QUESTIONS.
UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH AND I APPRECIATE THE REVISED VERSION BECAUSE I DID HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, UM, PARTICULARLY ABOUT THE ZONE.
AND, UH, 'CAUSE I HAD NOTICED THAT IT DID NOT INCLUDE ANY OF EAST SIDE AND SO I'M GLAD THAT YOU ACTUALLY EXTENDED IT TO PART OF EAST SIDE.
UM, AND I CAN UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO CANALIZE THE FIXED ROUTE, BUT THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS.
ONE, UH, THIS IS INTENDED FOR NEW USERS OF TRANSIT.
I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THAT? THEY, THEY'RE INCLUDED.
THIS IS INTENDED FOR NEW USERS OF TRANSIT IN PETALUMA, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
SO THEY, THEY WOULDN'T REALLY BE ON THE 11 ANYWAY.
UM, AND I THINK TELLING THEM THEY SHOULD BE ON THE 11 MIGHT NOT BE A GOOD COMMUNICATION WHEN THEY WANNA USE THE MICRO TRANSIT.
UM, I HAVE A COMMENT ON THAT, IF THAT'S OKAY.
I, BEFORE I FORGET IT, 'CAUSE BUT I WANNA HEAR THE REST OF THEM.
IT WAS INTERESTING BECAUSE WE SPOKE WITH VIA SPECIFICALLY THE SOFTWARE AS A SERVICE PROVIDER BECAUSE I WAS LIKE, I REALLY WANNA MAKE SURE PEOPLE TAKE FIXED ROUTE.
AND THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, GIVE THEM A MINUTE, LET THEM DO THIS FIRST.
AND SO WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IN AFTER THEY'RE USING THE SERVICE IN SIX MONTHS? WHAT'LL HAPPEN IN THE APP IS IF THERE IS FIXED ROUTE AROUND IT WILL BE PRESENTED TO THEM AS AN OPTION.
OR IF THEY'VE COME DOWNTOWN AND MAYBE THEY'VE DRUNK MORE THAN THEY THOUGHT THEY MIGHT EXACTLY.
UM, SO, UM, I AM REALLY KIND OF EXCITED ABOUT THIS, UH, AND UM, I APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, ERIC? YEAH.
SO, UM, AS I WAS JUST, THAT WAS JUST MENTIONED, UM, I DO APPRECIATE THAT WE ARE SEEING SOME, UH, SERVICE ON THE EAST SIDE.
UM, BUT SOMETHING THAT I HAVE NOTICED, UM, ESPECIALLY MORE SO WITH WHAT I WAS TRYING TO, UM, TRYING TO GET TO RIVERTOWN REVIVAL FOR,
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UM, THROUGH PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.ROUTE 24 DOES NOT OPERATE ON THE WEEKENDS.
AND I, I HAVE ALWAYS KNOWN THAT WHERE I LIVE, PARTICULARLY BETWEEN SOUTH MCDOWELL AND LAKEVILLE HIGHWAY, IT'S A BIT OF A DEAD ZONE, UM, IN TERMS OF JUST ANY SORT OF PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION ON THE WEEKENDS.
AND THAT JUST MAY BE BECAUSE OF THE RIDERSHIP THAT WE DON'T SEE ON THE WEEKENDS.
BUT THAT WAS ONE THING THAT HAD OCCURRED THAT DAY WHERE I THOUGHT, HMM, SOMETHING LIKE THIS WOULD BE RATHER USEFUL.
AND SO MAYBE HAVING THAT CONSIDERATION OF EXTENDING IT EVER SO SLIGHTLY OUT INTO LAKEVILLE, PROBABLY NOT ALL THE WAY TO, TO KAISER, BECAUSE THE MAIN INTENT PROBABLY FOR 24 IS TO GET PEOPLE TO KAISER AND BACK.
BUT SOME SORT OF A HALFWAY POINT BETWEEN THAT WOULD, WOULD REALLY HELP.
I WILL SAY ON THIS POINT THAT THIS IS WHAT'S GREAT ABOUT IT, IS WE GET DATA TO SUPPORT, RIGHT? IT'S REALLY TRICKY TO SAY LET'S EXTEND HOURS OF A ROUTE WITHOUT KNOWING IF PEOPLE WILL RIDE.
BUT THIS ALLOWS US TO SHOW, LOOK, WE HAVE A LOT OF, WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE RIDING THIS THAT WE'RE GETTING RIDE DENIALS, SO WE NEED FIXED ROUTE TO EXTEND ITS TIME OR WE NEED IT TO EXTEND TO THESE AREAS.
SO YOU KIND OF THINK ABOUT THIS AS A WAY TO KIND OF, UM, KIND OF GET FEELERS OUT, RIGHT? AND IT'S MORE ACCESSIBLE AND IT'S EASIER, UM, RATHER THAN CREATING A WHOLE ROUTE DEDICATED TO SOMETHING WE'RE NOT SURE PEOPLE WILL RIDE.
YEAH, I'M, SINCE I'M ONLY THIS NEW HERE, I KNOW, I KNOW.
I'M ASSUMING THIS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED BEFORE THIS COMMITTEE FOR A NUMBER OF MONTHS OR YEARS? YEARS MAYBE.
SO I WON'T FEEL TOO DUMB THEN.
UM, BUT I DO WANT, I MEAN, JUST BE OUTTA CURIOSITY.
YOU HAVE BUSES, THEY'RE PAID FOR ASSUME MM-HMM.
IS THIS THROUGH THE CITY SYSTEM OR IS THIS AN OUTSIDE SYSTEM? AND SO, GREAT QUESTION.
IF I, IF, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING.
SO WE WILL BE U USING CURRENT VEHICLES, WE'RE JUST WRAPPING THEM.
UM, AND ONE OF THE REASONS WE DO THAT IS TO MAKE SURE IT ACTUALLY WORKS.
UM, IF THEN IT DOES, AND IT'S GREAT LAUNCH, WE'LL BUY DEDICATED VEHICLES AND I BELIEVE THAT'S ON THE GAME PLAN.
AND SO AN MV WILL OPERATE THIS SERVICE.
SO IT'S, IT'S LIKE ANOTHER, LIKE WE HAVE FIXED ROUTE PARA AND NOW LUMA GO.
UM, SO IT'S JUST ANOTHER ARM IT GETS, DO YOU WANNA ADDRESS, I DON'T KNOW, UM, I GUESS RECORDED IS ON DEMAND TRANSIT.
STRANGELY, I I'M TRYING TO THINK ABOUT THE REPORTING SIDE OF THINGS.
YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO INTO THAT DETAIL.
SO RIGHT NOW THE LUMA GO MM-HMM.
THEY MAY BE ONCE IN A MONTH OR SO, JUST TEMPORARILY OR, SO WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS, UM, BY SEPTEMBER YOU'LL SEE VEHICLES THAT WILL TWO VEHICLES THAT WILL LOOK LIKE THIS ONE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE.
AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE ON THE PARATRANSIT LIST.
IT'S ALL SEPARATE FROM SIGNUP IS ONLY ONLINE.
AND THEN THEY DESIGNATE WHERE THEY NEED TO BE PICKED UP WITHIN A HALF HOUR OR, OKAY.
AND THEN THAT'S THEN AT, OKAY, SO SO ONCE THE BUS, THE DRIVER PICKS 'EM UP, THEY ALREADY HAVE AN IDEA WHERE THIS PERSON WANTS TO GO EX.
THESE ARE GREAT QUESTIONS AND I, I LOVE THEM BECAUSE IT REALLY HELPS REFRESH TOO, BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT SO LONG.
SO WILL, HAS THERE ALREADY BEEN A A, AN OUTING WITH THE TRANSIT COMMITTEE TO DO THIS? OR IS THAT SOMETHING COMING UP TOO? SO, BECAUSE THE WAY THE APP WORKS, IT'S, IT'S INTERESTING.
YOU CAN'T HAVE THE APP BEFORE THE LAUNCH.
SO THE APP ISN'T LIVE, IT'S NOT AVAILABLE, BUT AS SOON AS IT IS, WE MOST DEFINITELY COULD BRING THE VEHICLE BY DO A PRACTICE RUN.
UM, BUT THIS IS AVAILABLE TO ALL.
SO WHAT'S GREAT ABOUT IT IS THERE'S NO ELIGIBILITY AS YOU'RE MENTIONING WITH PARATRANSIT SERVICE.
I MEAN, EXCEPT FOR GOING INTO THE APP.
BUT IF YOU CALLED, YOU WOULDN'T, YOU WOULD JUST BE PROVIDING YOUR NAME.
UM, AND YOU GET TO GO AHEAD AND GO FOR A RIDE.
BUT NO, THIS SERVICE IS NOT LIVE AT ALL YET.
BUT ONCE IT IS, I WOULD BE REALLY EXCITED TO TAKE YOU ALL ON OUT ON A RIDE.
CURIOUS, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS COME UP IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE HAVE, UM, SCHOOL AGED CHILDREN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WELL, SO MANY SCHOOL AGED CHILDREN NOW DO NOT, DO NOT GO TO THE SCHOOL THAT'S CLOSEST TO THEM.
SO IS THERE ANY POSSIBILITY OF ARRANGING FOR SAY, A GROUP OF SIX OR SEVEN KIDS TO BE PICKED UP ON A DAILY B BASIS? OKAY.
'CAUSE
THAT'S, I THINK
I FEEL SO FORTUNATE TO HAVE THESE WONDERFUL, ROBUST CONVERSATIONS.
THIS IS REALLY MEANT AS ON DEMAND, NOT A PRE-SCHEDULED RIDE.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, I WOULD NEVER SUGGEST SOMEBODY TAKE THIS TO GO TO A KAISER APPOINTMENT BECAUSE I CAN'T GUARANTEE IT'S GONNA GET TO YOU IN TIME.
BUT PARATRANSIT I MOST DEFINITELY WOULD SUGGEST BECAUSE YOU CAN BOOK IT THREE DAYS IN ADVANCE AND I KNOW IT'S GONNA BE THERE AND I FEEL MUCH MORE, MORE CONFIDENT.
AND SO, SO WITH SOMETHING LIKE SCHOOL TRIPS,
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I THINK FIXED ROUTE IS IDEAL BECAUSE AGAIN, IT HAS THAT REGULARITY WHERE THIS WOULD BE MORE LIKE AN UBER AND LYFT, EXCEPT WITHOUT THE HORRIBLE SURGE PRICING.IF YOU'VE RIDDEN UBER AND LYFT AND GO FROM $4 TO $40 DEPENDING ON THE NEED, THAT'S WHAT CAN HAPPEN.
RIGHT? UM, SO I ALWAYS LIKE TO BE REALLY CAUTIOUS ABOUT, IT'S NOT THE ANSWER TO EVERYTHING.
IT'S AN ANSWER TO ONE, ONE PORTION OF THE PUZZLE.
AND FINALLY, THIS IS NOT A FREE RIDE OR IT IS A FREE RIDE.
UM, I GOT A CONCERN TODAY ABOUT, WELL THEN EVERYBODY'S GONNA TAKE IT, NOT JUST THE PEOPLE WHO REALLY, REALLY NEED IT.
AND I, THAT'S THE IDEAL TRANSIT, RIGHT? WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU GET ON THE NEW YORK SUBWAY, YOU SEE PEOPLE IN GOWNS, YOU SEE PEOPLE OF ALL WALKS OF LIFE.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD TRANSIT.
THE BEST TRANSIT IS WHEN EVERYBODY'S ON IT.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE HOPE WITH THIS.
AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER MORE QUESTIONS BECAUSE I, I, I KNOW YOU, YOU GUYS ARE JUST GETTING INTO THE GAME, SO WE APPRECIATE IT, MS. ABRAMS. WELL, JUST TO REPEAT WHAT EVERYONE ELSE SAID, SO WONDERFUL.
AND DOING A PILOT IS SO WONDERFUL.
UM, AND YOU WERE VERY CLEAR, BUT MY BRAIN JUST WANTS TO SAY IT BACK TO YOU AND HAVE YOU SAY, I GOT IT RIGHT.
BUT YEAH, NO, I, I LOVE THE CLARIFICATION AND, UM, I, I ALWAYS LIKE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, LOOK WHAT IT CAN DO.
IT, IT IS RIGHT NOW, AS WE HAVE IT SET, IT IS PICK UP AND DROP OFF WITHIN THE ZONE.
THAT BEING SAID, WHEN WE HAVE FUTURE ITERATIONS, YOU COULD MODIFY IT TO BE, OKAY, LET'S SAY WE, UM, YOU CAN ONLY BE DROPPED OFF AT, AT CERTAIN DESIGNATED SPOTS, OR YOU COULD BE PICKED UP, UM, AT THE CORONA NORTH STATION, BUT YOU CAN'T BE ANYWHERE.
IT JUST HAS TO BE THAT, AND IT COULD BE IN THE ZONE.
SO THAT IS A POSSIBILITY FOR THIS.
WE'VE, WE'VE DECIDED JUST TO HAVE IT ALL IN ONE ZONE, IN AND OUT IN ONE ZONE.
IT IS EASIER TO MARKET TO, BUT YEAH, GREAT QUESTION.
AND ONE QUICK CAVEAT WITH THAT, I WOULD SAY, OF COURSE THE ZONE, IT HAS KIND OF THE MAP, BUT IT'S AN IMAGINARY MAP.
IT'S NOT LIKE THE WALL, YOU KNOW, GREAT WALL.
SO PEOPLE, EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT IN THE ZONE, BUT THEY'RE A COUPLE BLOCKS OUTSIDE, OF COURSE THEY COULD STILL WALK IN THE ZONE TO PICK IT UP, GET DROPPED OFF, GO OUTSIDE OF IT.
SO EVEN WITH THAT MAP A LITTLE BIT BEYOND IT TOO, PEOPLE STILL HAVE KIND OF SERVICE TO ACCESS IT.
BUT THEY WALK TO CORRECT THE ZONE.
AND I HAVE A REALLY NERDY QUESTION.
AND, BUT IT'S A AND VERY SHORT ANSWER.
YOU SAID THAT FIXED ROOT MM-HMM.
SO JUST A LITTLE MORE ON THAT.
AND ALSO IF YOU COULD GET INTO A LITTLE BIT OF THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN EFFICIENT AND COST EFFECTIVE.
AND I WILL, I WILL START WITH MY SIDE AND I'M SURE JARED WILL HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD.
'CAUSE I DON'T DO THE MONEY PART AND I DON'T WANNA DERAIL THIS.
I THINK THIS IS, THIS IS SO IMPORTANT, RIGHT? IF, IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, THEN HOW AM I GONNA GET, RIGHT? SO HERE'S HOW IT WORKS.
LET'S SAY FOR EXAMPLE, ON NORTH MCDOWELL, LIKE I'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF REQUESTS FOR LUMA GO TO GO DOWN NORTH MCDOWELL.
THERE'S A LOT OF MOBILE HOME PARKS, WHICH I, I DO BELIEVE NEED TO BE SERVED.
HOWEVER, THIS VEHICLE ONLY TAKES 11 PEOPLE AND OUR, OUR BIG BUSES, RIGHT? I HAVE NO LIMITATIONS.
SO WHAT WOULD END UP HAPPENING, AND UNFORTUNATELY I SHOULD BACK UP, THIS HAS HAPPENED.
I'VE LAUNCHED MICRO TRANSIT ALREADY.
I LAUNCHED IT IN EASTERN CONTRA COSTA COUNTY.
IT WENT FROM TWO VEHICLES TO EIGHT VEHICLES, MULTIPLE ZONES.
SO I'M VERY FORTUNATE FOR THAT.
THAT BEING SAID, THE CEO, THE CO HAS PULLED ME ASIDE RECENTLY SAID, WHAT DID YOU DO? I CAN'T OPERATE FIXED ROUTE AND THIS AT THE SAME TIME.
AND I'VE SO MUCH DEMAND, I NEED TO PUT TWO V, THEY'RE CALLED TRI TRUE MICRO TRANSIT VEHICLES ON, BECAUSE IT WOULD TAKE TWO VEHICLES TO DEAL WITH DEMAND.
SO NOW WE HAVE TWO VEHICLES VERSUS ONE LARGE BUS.
SO I'M PUTTING IT, IT'S NOT REALLY HELPING THE SITUATION.
YEAH, I THINK YOU COVERED IT WELL, MARIA, I THINK IT'S ADDING TO THE PORTFOLIO, LIKE MARIA SAID AT THE SERVICES WITH FIXED DROUGHT AND UM, PARATRANSIT, TYPICALLY THE MOST PRODUCTIVE ROUTE YOU'LL SEE WOULD BE A FIXED ROUTE IN TERMS OF BOARDINGS PER HOUR SUBSIDY PER BOARDING.
BECAUSE WITH SOMETHING LIKE PARATRANSIT OR MICRO, YOU HAVE MORE WHAT'S CALLED DEADHEAD TIME, AS IN GOING TO PICK SOMEONE UP WHEN THEY'RE NOT ON THE BUS.
AND A LOT OF THE TRIP IS THAT VERSUS IF IT'S FIXED ROUTE, IT'S GENERALLY ALWAYS IN THAT SERVICE.
THERE'S MINOR DEADHEAD TIME TO GET TO THE STARTING POINT, BUT GENERALLY IT'S PICKING PEOPLE UP ALL THE WAY UP AND DOWN THE LINE.
BUT THERE'S OTHER KIND OF, UM, GOALS AND VALUES WITH IT.
YOU KNOW, FIXED DROUGHT'S REALLY GOOD AT CERTAIN THINGS.
MOVING A LOT OF PEOPLE DURING HIGH DENSITY, HIGH DEMAND CORRIDORS DOING SCHOOL TRIP OR SERVICE WHEN YOU HAVE HUGE
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LOADS OF KIDS WILL CARRY OVER 50 PEOPLE ON THAT.BUT IT'S HARDER TO DO OTHER THINGS.
YOU KNOW, IN THIS CASE, SOME OF THE GOALS WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER DURING THE PRESENTATION, ATTRACTING NEW PEOPLE TO RIDE TRANSIT.
PEOPLE WHERE FIXED DROUGHT MAY NOT REALLY WORK FOR THEM.
PEOPLE WHO WANT THE ON DEMAND ASPECTS OF IT.
THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THIS SERVICE REALLY BRINGS TO THE TABLE.
AND I THINK IT'S GOOD AS A PILOT SERVICE TO KIND OF PILOT AREAS THAT WE HAVEN'T NECESSARILY SERVED BEFORE ARE HARDER TO SERVE.
IF YOU THINK ABOUT WEST PETALUMA, EAST PETALUMA IS SET UP A BIT BETTER FOR THINGS LIKE FIXED TROUT.
IT HAS LONGER STRAIGHT CORRIDORS, MORE THE DENSITY.
WEST PETALUMA DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME TYPE OF LINEAR STREET GRID.
IT'S HARDER TO PICK A STREET THAT'S GONNA GO THROUGH A LOT OF THE RESIDENTIAL AND WEST PETALUMA BECAUSE IT ZIGS AND IT JAGS.
AND A LOT OF IT'S GOING THROUGH RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND EVEN THAT CAN BE DIFFICULT IS BRINGING LIKE A 35, 40 FOOT BUS THROUGH THOSE KIND OF NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO IN THAT CASE, IT WOULD BE VERY HARD TO EVER SERVE IT WITH FIXED DROUGHT.
BUT YOU CAN SERVE THOSE AREAS POTENTIALLY WITH A SERVICE LIKE THIS.
IT OPENS UP NEW POSSIBILITIES TO SERVE THEM THAT HAVE BEEN HARDER TO DO WITH JUST FIXED DROUGHT SERVICE, FOR EXAMPLE.
I HAD ANOTHER, UM, I GUESS QUESTION IN COMBINATION OF COMMENT.
SO YOU SAID THAT IT'S EVERY 300 FEET THAT THERE'S GONNA BE A, A, A DESIGNATED SPOT.
IT'S BASICALLY LIKE WHAT WE DO IS THEY JUST LAND PINS.
I MEAN IT THE BACK SIDE OF LIKE ANY CORNER.
BASICALLY EVERY CORNER WILL HAVE ONE.
IT'S APPROXIMATELY 300 FEET AND THEN WE'LL ADJUST IT.
UM, 'CAUSE THERE'S WEIRD THINGS THAT COME UP LIKE, OH, THAT'S NOT REALLY A CORNER.
PEOPLE CAN STOP AND WAIT ON THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, BUT AGAIN, HOPEFULLY NO ONE'S REALLY TECHNICALLY WAITING.
THEY'RE DOING THEIR OWN THING AND THEN THEY SEE IT'S COMING, THEY'RE COMING OUT.
DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YEAH.
BUT I GUESS ALSO FOR LIKE, I GUESS THE AREAS THAT ARE A LITTLE MORE POPULAR, IS THERE GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT'S CLEARLY ADVERTISED IN SPECIFIC SIDEWALKS? YES.
ESPECIALLY FOR THE DOWNTOWN AREA, BECAUSE I WAS REALLY LIKE, OH, WHERE ARE WE GONNA STOP? I MEAN, I CAN'T, I CAN'T EVEN STOP MY, IN MY LITTLE, I DON'T DRIVE A FIAT, YOU KNOW, DOWN HERE, LET ALONE A PAIR OF TRANSIT VEHICLE.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE REALLY HAD TO SAY, OKAY, HERE'S A DESIGNATED SPOT.
SO WHAT WILL HAPPEN WHEN YOU'RE IN, FOR EXAMPLE, DOWNTOWN, YOU CAN REQUEST IT, BUT IT'S GONNA TELL YOU, YOU GOTTA WALK A LITTLE BIT.
UM, I RECENTLY WAS IN LAS VEGAS.
I TOOK UBER THERE AND I DO THE SAME THING.
'CAUSE THEY DON'T ALLOW UBERS AND LYFTS TO PICK UP ON THE STREET, YOU IN THE BACK OF HOTELS.
AND SO EVEN IF YOU REQUEST IT, THERE'S THESE ZONES AND IT KIND OF MAGNETIZES YOU TOWARD A CERTAIN AREA.
SO WE'RE CREATING THOSE, UM, IN THOSE MORE HIGHLY POPULATED AREAS.
AND WHERE POSSIBLE I'LL HAVE A FLAG STOP.
UM, I JUST, I'M HESITANT TO DO TOO MANY BECAUSE AGAIN, I DON'T WANT PEOPLE THINKING THEY HAVE TO STAND SOMEWHERE, BUT IN THOSE AREAS, SO FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE THE TARGET SHOPPING CENTER, THAT AREA, WE COULD PROBABLY STOP EVERYWHERE, BUT IT'S SO LONG.
SO WE WERE LIKE, THAT'S TOO MUCH.
SO WE'LL HAVE TWO DESIGNATED SPOTS WITH, WITH A, UM, FLAG STOP.
SO PEOPLE KNOW THAT AND, BUT THEY'LL BE ABLE TO CHOOSE, DO I WANNA WAIT AT THIS END OR THAT END? AND BY WAIT AGAIN, THEY COULD BE IN THE STORE STILL SHOPPING.
AND SO THE LAST QUESTION I HAD TOO WAS HOPPING ON IS ESSENTIALLY THROUGH THE APP, BUT WITH ANY FIXED ROUTE, SOMEONE CAN HOP OFF WHENEVER THEY FEEL LIKE IT.
SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT FOLKS ARE GONNA HAVE TO, TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE GETTING DROPPED OFF AT A SPECIFIC LOCATION AND THEY CAN'T HOP OFF? YEAH, THIS IS A GREAT QUESTION BECAUSE IT'S A LEARNING CURVE ISSUE.
WE, THERE'S TWO THINGS THAT WE'RE GONNA RUN INTO THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT GONNA BE HAPPY WITH.
ONE, THEY CAN'T HOP ON, RIGHT? SO IF YOU SEE THE VEHICLE, YOU CAN'T JUST GO ON, YOU CAN'T WAVE IT DOWN.
YOU CAN'T JUST WALK ON IT LIKE A BUS.
AND INITIALLY EVERYBODY'S GONNA SAY, WELL, WHY NOT? IT'S JUST SITTING HERE.
WELL, THE ISSUE IS THEN THE ALGORITHM CAN'T DO ITS JOB BECAUSE NOW THE DRIVER'S OFF SOMEWHERE AND THE ALGORITHM DOESN'T KNOW WHERE IT IS.
SO THERE WILL BE A LITTLE BIT OF TRAINING PEOPLE
WE CAN'T KEEP THEM HOSTAGE ON THE BUS.
SO FOR THE DRIVER WILL BE SET TO KNOW, HEY, WHEN I BOOK MY RIDE, I'M GOING AGAIN FROM CITY HALL TO SMART.
WAIT A MINUTE, ON THE WAY I SAW WHOLE FOODS, I REALLY WANNA GET OFF HERE.
THAT IS SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO ADDRESS.
BUT IN MY PREVIOUS AGENCY, WE SAID, YOU LET 'EM OFF WHEN THEY WANNA GET OFF.
WE, WE DO NOT HOLD PEOPLE HOSTAGE ON THE VEHICLE.
HOWEVER, IT'S NOT GONNA BE A NEW DESTINATION, IT WILL BE ON ROUTE.
UM, SO THAT IS PROBABLY THE WHAT WE'LL END UP DOING.
IT SHOWS YOU GUYS REALLY THINKING.
DENNIS, DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO, I HAD ONE THAT WAS ANSWERED.
UM, UH, I HAD A COUPLE THAT WERE ANSWERED.
UH, THE ONE THING THAT UH, REALLY, UM, PERKED MY, UH, INTEREST IN, UH, IN THE PRESENTATION WAS THE, UH, THE IDEA OF THE SAFETY.
UM, UH, PETALUMA, YOU KNOW, YOU READ THE, YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU READ THE PAPERS, YOU SEE
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THE NICKEL ALERTS, UH, YOU GET THE EMAILS.UM, YOU KNOW, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS HARD AT WORK.
UM, TRYING TO, UM, YOU KNOW, KEEP, UH, DUI DRIVERS OFF THE ROAD.
AND SO, UH, I REALLY LIKE THIS, UH, PROGRAM, UH, TO HELP OUR COMMUNITIES BE SAFE WHEN THEY ARE, UH, OUT CELEBRATING.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO REALLY SORT OF LEAN INTO THE MARKETING OF THE SAFETY.
AND THIS IS A TOOL TO HELP MAKE OUR STREETS SAFER, UM, BECAUSE I REALLY DO BELIEVE IT.
AND, AND I THINK YOU CAN, UM, UH, AGAIN, LEAN INTO SERVING THAT MARKET, HAVING QR CODES UP AT LOCAL ESTABLISHMENTS, HAVING THE SIGN IN THE WINDOW, UH, THAT KIND OF THING.
AND, UH, I THINK THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONVERT WRITERS IF THEY'RE USING THE SERVICE BECAUSE MAYBE THEY HAD TOO MUCH TO DRINK TO GET HOME.
UH, THEN, UH, THEY'RE MORE INCLINED TO USE IT FOR OTHER PURPOSES.
UM, AND THEN I, SO, BUT ON THAT NOTE, AND THE LAST THING I, I WOULD SAY IS, UH, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO THINK ABOUT IF, IF, UH, IF THERE WAS A WAY TO IDENTIFY THE TYPE OF LOCATION THAT YOU'RE PICKING UP FROM.
SO, UH, IF SOMEONE IS AT A, AT ONE OF OUR LOCAL ESTABLISHMENTS AND THEY SAY, I NEED A RIDE, LET'S NOT TRY TO MAKE THEM WALK THREE BLOCKS TO A PICKUP POINT.
UM, AND THEN FURTHERMORE, LET'S NOT, UH, LIMIT THEM TO NOT, UH, BEING ABLE TO RIDE BECAUSE THEIR DESTINATION ISN'T IN THE ZONE.
SO IF SOMEONE IS DOWNTOWN AND THEY'RE INEBRIATED AND THEY'RE ASKING FOR A RIDE, UH, LET'S NOT DENY THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO GET OVER TO THE EAST SIDE.
IF THERE'S A WAY TO CONFIGURE THE SOFTWARE, I GET, I GET THE WHOLE IDEA OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, UH, THE, THE GEOGRAPHICAL FENCE IN ORDER TO MAKE THE SUCCESSFUL.
UM, BUT, UH, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.
I JUST WOULD LIKE TO, I THINK THAT WITH THE INTEGRATION AT THE SIX MONTH POINT OF FIXED ROUTE, I THINK THAT WILL DEFINITELY HELP FOR FOLKS WHO, IF, IF, IF WE'RE NOT GOING THERE, WE CAN SAY LIKE, HOW CAN YOU GET THERE? I'M REALLY EXCITED THAT THIS EXTENSION ALSO INCLUDES THEN ETC, WHICH IS OUR TRANSIT HUB, GIVING PEOPLE MORE EXTENSION BEYOND, RIGHT? SO IF THEY'RE, WE ARE STILL TAKING THEM, BUT MAYBE NOW THEY'RE TRANSFERRING OR THEY'RE GETTING ONTO SMART POTENTIALLY.
AND THAT'S, THAT, THAT'S THE HOPE.
UM, WE WANNA GET THEM WHERE THEY WANNA GO.
UM, I WILL SAY ALSO TO THE POINT OF LEANING INTO THE DUI CAMPAIGN, I DID, UM, BECAUSE I'M WORKING WITH EACH BUSINESS AS BEST I CAN, BUT LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, BROOKE NOTES WINERY, I MET WITH HIM AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO SAY LIKE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE RACK CARDS AT ALL.
HOPEFULLY ALL BUSINESSES WILL HAVE THEM.
BUT HE WAS SAYING, LET'S DO LIKE A WINE TOUR.
YOU KNOW? AND SO WHAT I LOVE ABOUT THE OUTREACH ASPECT IS EACH GROUP IS MAKING THEIR OWN USE CASE AND THEY'RE CREATING IT AND HOLDING IT BECAUSE WE CAN'T HOLD ALL OF THIS FOR THEM, RIGHT? I, WE CAN'T BE THE DUI AND WE CAN'T BE THIS, BUT WHAT'S GREAT ABOUT THIS IS THIS IS THE TOOL WE'RE GIVING OUR COMMUNITY AND THEN OUR COMMUNITY SAYING, HERE'S HOW WE'RE GONNA USE THIS TOOL.
SO, UM, REALLY EXCITED THAT, THAT, THAT HAS, THAT THEY'RE LATCHING ON IN THAT WAY AS WELL.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ON THE PRESENTATION? NO, I THINK THAT'S IT, MR. CHAIR.
OBVIOUSLY YOU'LL BE SEEING MORE ABOUT THAT SERVICE COMING SOON.
WE'RE STILL FINALIZING THE EXACT LAUNCH DATE.
WE'RE GETTING VERY CLOSE ON THAT.
SO YOU'LL BE HEARING MORE INFO FROM US SOON AS WE'RE, UH, READY TO LAUNCH THAT SERVICE.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
UH, AT THIS POINT IN THE MEETING, WE WOULD APPROVE OUR MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING.UH, THERE WAS A TECHNICAL GLITCH ON THE, UH, UPLOADING THE MINUTES FOR THE JULY 11TH MEETING.
SO WE WILL NOT BE APPROVING THOSE, UH, MINUTES.
AND THAT WILL BE EXTENDED TO, UH, OUR NEXT MEETING.
[PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION]
TO, UH, PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION.UM, MR. HALL, WE HAVE, UM, A DISCUSSION ON THE TRANSIT ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING TIMES.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE US THERE? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
SO THIS ITEM IS ACTUALLY ONE THAT WE WERE DISCUSSING LAST WEEK THAT WE WERE ASKED TO BRING BACK.
AND IT'S CONCERNING THE MEETING TIMES FOR THIS COMMITTEE.
UM, OF COURSE, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF NEW MEMBERS WHO, UH, JOINED US, YOU KNOW, GLAD TO HAVE YOUR BOARD.
UH, WE HAD A QUESTION LAST TIME ON WHAT POTENTIAL MEETING SLOTS ARE AVAILABLE.
OF COURSE, WE'VE BEEN MEETING ON THE SECOND THURSDAY OF THE MONTH FROM FOUR TO 6:00 PM HERE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
BUT YOU CAN SEE IN THE ITEM IN THE PACKET, WE HAVE SEVERAL OF THE TIMES OUTLINED.
WE GENERALLY AVOIDED MONDAY GIVEN THE POTENTIAL CONFLICTS WITH CITY COUNCIL.
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COURSE, THE CITY IS CLOSED ON FRIDAYS, BUT YOU CAN SEE THE VARIOUS TIMES THAT ARE AVAILABLE ON TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY, AND THURSDAY.ANY OF THE ONES THAT ARE BLACKED OUT OR ONES THAT HAD CONFLICTS WITH OTHER EXISTING BOARDS, COMMITTEES, COMMISSION MEETINGS, UM, AS DESCRIBED IN THE MEMO.
LET ME, LET ME, UH, IF I COULD PAUSE YOU FOR ONE MOMENT, IS THERE ANYONE WHO DOESN'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE, UH, TO THE SCHEDULE THAT HE'S REFERENCING THAT I DON'T.
I'LL, I'M, I'M OPEN TO ANYTHING.
I WAS, IS IT, IS IT, UM, EASY TO BRING IT UP ON THE SCREEN? YES.
LET ME SHARE IT ON THE SCREEN REALLY QUICK.
SO EVERYONE CAN SEE THAT BLOWN UP ON THE SCREEN THERE.
AND, UH, YEAH, SO THAT WAS PRETTY MUCH IT.
UM, HAPPY TO HAVE A DISCUSSION AND ANY INPUT RECOMMENDATIONS.
WE DON'T NEED A FORMAL ACTION ON IT.
IF YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT TIME THAT YOU PREFER, WE'LL GO BACK AND CLEAR IT WITH THE CITY CLERK, ET CETERA.
BUT WITH THAT, UH, HAPPY TO SEND BACK TO YOU, MR. CHAIR FOR ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS.
UH, LET ME JUST, UM, UH, BEFORE I SHARE ANY THOUGHTS THAT I HAVE, UM, WE'LL GO THROUGH AND ASK PATTY.
I HAVE A CLASS I TEACH ON WEDNESDAY FROM FOUR TO SIX, SO THAT IS NOT A TIME I CAN MAKE IT.
UH, THE OTHER TIMES WOULD, COULD BE POSSIBLE FOR ME.
UH, FRED, WE CAN, I'VE OPENED JUST ABOUT ANY TIME.
GAIL, ANY THOUGHTS? SO WHEN WEDNESDAY FROM FOUR SIX DID NOT WORK FOR ME, YOU MOVED THE FIRST FOR THE SECOND.
AND, UM, UH, PATTY HAD THE SAME ISSUE.
SO WEDNESDAYS, UH, THE SECOND WEDNESDAY, UH, PROBABLY, OR EITHER WEDNESDAY WOULDN'T BE, WOULDN'T WORK FOR FOR PATTY.
SO, UM, BUT ANY OF THE, THE, EITHER THE TUESDAY OR THE THURSDAY.
WELL, THE THURSDAYS IT WOULD EITHER BE THE SECOND OR THE, THE THE THIRD, BUT IT'S THE SAME TIME.
UH, SO ERIC, LET ME ASK YOU IF YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS.
I MEAN, WITH THIS ALREADY, UM, OR THE SCHEDULE WE HAVE NOW WORKS FOR ME ALREADY, BUT I KNOW THAT THIS, I HAVE A LOT OF OTHER COMMITMENTS.
SO WHAT I SEE HERE WORKS ALREADY FOR ME.
I WOULD PREFER A FIVE TO SEVEN IN ANY SORT OF CAPACITY WITH WHAT'S PRESENT HERE.
BUT I CAN, I THINK I CAN BE FLEXIBLE.
MR. POLKE? YEAH, ACTUALLY FOR ME, YOU KNOW, I'VE, I MEETING THAT RUNS UP AGAINST THIS ONE AND USED TO GO OVER OR I, I'VE BEEN THESE.
SO WHAT, WHAT I'M HEARING, UM, FOR ME PERSONALLY, UH, DOING A A HAVING A FIVE O'CLOCK START, UH, IS BETTER THAN A FOUR O'CLOCK START.
UM, AND I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T WANT TO, UH, IT SOUNDS LIKE WEDNESDAY'S NOT, UH, REALLY AN OPTION.
SO, UH, ANY ANY THOUGHTS OR CONCERNS WITH GOING WITH THE THIRD TUESDAY AT FIVE TO SEVEN? I'LL HAVE TO, I THINK THAT THAT'S PROBABLY OKAY.
I DID ARRANGE MY CLASS SCHEDULE SO THAT I COULD GET HERE ON THE THIRD THURSDAY AT THIS TIME.
BUT I PROBABLY COULD MAKE, I'M TRYING TO RUN THROUGH IT IN MY HEAD.
UM, I'M FAIRLY CERTAIN I COULD DO FIVE TO SEVEN.
ACTUALLY A FIVE O'CLOCK START IS BETTER FOR ME.
UM, AND SO THE THIRD TUESDAY WOULD PROBABLY WORK FOR ME.
WE COULD CERTAINLY, BEFORE WE MAKE A SORRY, WE COULD CERTAINLY, BEFORE WE MAKE ANY KIND OF FINAL DECISION, WE COULD, UH, YOU KNOW, GIVE YOU TIME TO CHECK THAT.
I ACTUALLY CAN PROBABLY DO IT NOW.
I FORGOT I HAVE MY COMPUTER HERE.
UM, ANY OTHER OBJECTIONS OR CONCERNS ABOUT THE THIRD TUESDAY FROM FIVE TO SEVEN? WE SEE, UH, WE SEE FIVE TO SEVEN ON TUESDAY, IT WOULD BE, UH, IT WOULD BE FIVE TO SEVEN.
IF WE, IF BASED ON THE FEEDBACK THAT I'M HEARING, IF WE WERE TO MOVE IT TO ANYTHING, IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO MOVE IT TO A FIVE TO SEVEN.
AND THE ONLY ONE THAT WE KNOW THAT MIGHT WORK WOULD BE ON THAT.
THIRD TUESDAY, THEN I WOULD HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT DATE.
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I SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT THAT I HAVE A CORAL WEEK THAT WE, THOSE AT SEVEN EVERY TUESDAY MIGHT BE ABLE TO WORK IT.UM, UH, SORRY, ONE QUICK COMMENT, MR. CHAIR.
IF IT'S ANY DIFFERENCE ON TUESDAY, WE CAN MAYBE EVEN SPLIT THE DIFFERENCE AND DO FOUR 30 TO SIX 30.
IF THAT KIND OF THREADS A NEEDLE, THAT'S ALSO AN OPTION.
UM, I KNOW, UH, ERIC, YOU WERE CHECKING SOMETHING.
DID YOU, WAS THERE A CONCERN OR COMMENT THAT YOU WANNA MAKE? YES AND NO.
IT JUST TENDS TO CHANGE MONTH TO MONTH WITH ME
SO, UM, I DON'T THINK I SHOULD BE THE VOICE TO REALLY DETERMINE, BUT I THINK, UM, IN TERMS OF JUST WHAT I'M COMMITTED TO WEEK TO WEEK, THIS, THIS, DOES ANY ONE OF THESE DO WORK? OKAY.
I THINK THE TUESDAY WOULD WORK FOR ME FROM FIVE TO SEVEN.
UM, SO I THINK IT COMES BACK TO, TO YOU, I WOULDN'T WANT TO, HONESTLY, I WOULDN'T WANNA MAKE THE CHANGE IF IT DISRUPTS ANYTHING FROM WHAT WE'RE DOING.
IT'S, IF IT'S, IT IS FROM FIVE TO SEVEN, IF IT, IF WE GET OUT, UH, A LITTLE BEFORE THAT FIVE, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, 6 45, I'M FINE.
THAT'S A BLOCK AWAY THEN I GO TO.
UH, I WOULD SAY IN THE, UH, IN THE LAST, UH, IN THE LAST YEAR, I THINK I, WE, I RE I RECALL ONE MEETING WHERE WE WENT UP TO TWO HOURS.
IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE A, OH NO, IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN TWO MEETINGS WHERE
SO, AND IT'S GENERALLY NOT A PROBLEM IF, IF SO, SO I WOULD SAY IF IT'S, UH, IF IT'S AMENABLE TO THE GROUP, UH, I, I WOULD, UH, PROPOSE A CHANGE UNTIL THE THIRD TUESDAY FROM FIVE TO SEVEN.
AND FRED, IF THERE'S ANY CONFLICT, IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL IF YOU HAVE, IF YOU NEED TO BOW OUT EARLY.
IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE A CONSENSUS, MR. CHAIR.
THIRD TUESDAYS OF THE MONTH, FIVE TO 7:00 PM IT IS, WE'LL OF COURSE, UPDATE EVERYTHING ON THE WEBSITE AND ALL THE NOTICES AND STARTING WITH OUR SEPTEMBER MEETING, THAT WILL BE THE PLAN.
AND JUST SO FOR EVERYONE'S CLARIFICATION, IT'S, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT REQUIRES A, A FORMAL MOTION AND VOTE.
UH, THAT TAKES US TO THE NEXT ITEM, UH, RESOLUTION ITEM FOUR ON THE AGENDA RESOLUTION, APPROVING THE PURCHASE AND INSTALLATION OF 10 TRANSIT SHELTERS.
JARED, I'LL TURN IT BACK TO YOU.
YES, THANK YOU AGAIN, MR. CHAIR.
AND SO THIS ITEM, UM, IS A BUS STOP RELATED ITEM.
WE'VE HAD SEVERAL BUS STOP RELATED ITEMS AND DISCUSSIONS RECENTLY.
IT'S PART OF THE CITY OVERALL APPROACH TO IMPROVING OUR BUS STOPS, MAKE THE WHOLE TRANSIT RIDING EXPERIENCE MORE ENJOYABLE, OF WHICH THE FLEET IS PART OF IT, THE SERVICES IS PART OF IT.
AND OF COURSE THE BUS STOPS AND FACILITIES ARE.
AND SO WHAT THIS ITEM IS FOR IS TO PURCHASE BUS STOP SHELTERS AND AMENITIES.
AMENITIES BEING TRASH CANS AND BENCHES.
AND THEY WOULD BE INSTALLED AT 10 LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT PETALUMA, AND YOU CAN SEE DRAFTS, LOCATIONS INCLUDED IN THE PACKET.
UM, AND IF HELPFUL WE COULD PULL THOSE UP.
BUT OF COURSE, WE'RE OPEN TO ANY FEEDBACK THAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE.
THIS PARTICULAR LIST WAS PUT TOGETHER FROM A COMBINATION OF SEVERAL DIFFERENT FACTORS.
UH, THOSE INCLUDING RIDERSHIP NEED EQUITY, PROXIMITY TO DESTINATIONS, SAY LIKE LIBRARIES, HOSPITALS, THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES.
UH, THE CONDITION OF THE CURRENT STOP, SOME OF THESE EITHER HAVE A BUS SHELTER THAT'S IN VERY POOR CONDITION, OR ACTUALLY ONE THAT WAS REMOVED DUE TO BE IN VERY POOR CONDITION, OR IN THE CASE OF FOURTH AND SEA WAS DESTROYED WHEN A CAR RAN INTO IT.
SO IT'S A COMBINATION OF ALL THOSE FACTORS.
WHAT LED TO THIS PARTICULAR LIST AND THESE TYPE OF SHELTERS, THEY WOULD BE VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE INSTALLED IN THE PAST.
THEY WOULD BE TOLER 12 FOOT SIGNATURE, SUNSET SHELTERS, AND I ALSO HAVE A PICTURE OF THAT I CAN PULL UP ALONG WITH EIGHT FOOT BENCHES.
THE APPROXIMATE TIME TO RECEIVE AND INSTALL THESE WOULD BE, UM, 18 WEEKS BUILD TIME.
SO WE ANTICIPATE BY THE TIME WE ORDER THESE, RECEIVE THEM, IT WOULD TAKE ABOUT ONE MONTH TO INSTALL THEM.
WE ESTIMATE WE'LL HAVE THEM IN THE GROUND IN MARCH, MOVING AS FAST AS WE CAN ON THOSE.
AND IN TERMS OF THE COST OF THIS, WE HAVE, UM, COMBINATION OF TWO DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES, ONE OF WHICH WOULD BE THE TDA TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT ACT, TRANSIT ENTERPRISE FUND THAT COVERS 171,000 AND CHANGE.
AND THEN THE TRAFFIC IMPACT FUND A LITTLE UNDER 50,000, 49,000 AND CHANGE COVERING THAT.
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AND WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS AND IF HELPFUL, MR. CHAIR, AGAIN, I CAN PULL THESE UP AND SHOW A PICTURE OF, UM, THE SHELTER OR THE LIST THAT WE HAVE HERE IN THE MEMO.WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SEE THE PICTURE? UM, IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF YOU, CAN WE GO AHEAD AND BRING IT UP, PLEASE? YEAH, JUST ONE SECOND PLEASE.
SORRY, I, I DOWNLOADED, UH, THE MATERIALS AND THEN THEY ALL CHANGED AND THEN I DON'T HAVE THEM, SO THANK YOU.
SO IT WOULD LOOK VERY SIMILAR TO THIS.
WE DON'T HAVE AN EXACT MODEL, BUT IT WOULD BE THIS WITH A BLUE PERFORATED BACK PANEL.
AND THIS IS ACTUALLY VERY SIMILAR TO THE SONOMA COUNTY BUS SHELTERS THAT YOU SEE GENERALLY ALL OF THE AGENCIES IN SONOMA COUNTY.
THEY'RE TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A CONSISTENT DESIGN AMONGST THEM TO MAKE IT MORE SEAMLESS WHEN PEOPLE RIDE TRANSIT TO ELIMINATE SOME OF THE CONFUSION.
IS IT A PETALUMA TRANSIT STOP? A SONOMA COUNTY ONE.
AND SO THIS PARTICULAR MODEL'S BEEN USED BY SONOMA COUNTY TRANSIT AND SANTA ROSA CITY BUS FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
IT'S THE SAME MANUFACTURER THAT WE'VE BEEN ORDERING FROM, WHICH IS A COMPANY CALLED TOLAR.
THEY'RE ALL MADE IN THE US THEY'RE ALL, UH, BY AMERICA ELIGIBLE.
THEY HAVE ROUGHLY ABOUT A 20 YEAR LIFESPAN, ADAM.
AND SO THEY'RE GOOD LOOKING SHELTERS, THEY'RE DURABLE SHELTERS.
AND OF COURSE OURS WOULD ALSO HAVE, UH, A BIGGER BENCH THAN THAT PARTICULAR ONE TO EIGHT FOOT.
ALSO HAVE A TRASH CAN AT THEM AS WELL.
AND WE WOULD BE ORDERING SIX ADDITIONAL TRASH CANS BEYOND THE 10 STOPS WITH THIS ORDER THAT WOULD BE INSTALLED OR REPLACED A FEW DAMAGED ONES THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, MS. ABRAMS? I COULDN'T TELL FROM THE PICTURE AND YOU WERE USING THE WORD PERFORATED, BUT ARE YOU PROTECTED FROM THE RAIN IN THESE? YEAH, SO YOU WOULD HAVE THE ROOF ABOVE YOU.
YOU'D HAVE THE SOLID, UH, PIECE PROTECTING FROM THE RAIN AND BASICALLY THE BACK PANEL INSTEAD OF THE ONE YOU SEE HERE THAT'S CLEAR GLASS.
THESE WOULD BE METAL WITH HOLES PERFORATIONS.
AND THE REASON WE DO THAT IS WE'VE HAD A LOT OF ISSUES OVER RECENT YEARS WITH GRAFFITI BREAKAGE OF THE PANELS.
THEY LOOK GREAT WHEN THEY'RE BRAND NEW AND THEY'RE STERLING, HAVE 'EM A FEW YEARS AND GET SOME GRAFFITI EVEN WHEN YOU CLEAN 'EM UP AND THEY LOOK REALLY BAD.
SO WE THINK IF WE GET THE ONES WITH THE METAL BACKING, THEY'LL LOOK GOOD LONGER, WE CAN MORE EASILY CLEAN UP, REMOVE GRAFFITI, ET CETERA.
BUT YEAH, YOU'RE DEFINITELY PROTECTED FROM ABOVE, FROM THE ROOF, FROM THE BACK, AND SOMEWHAT FROM THE SIDES AS WELL.
AND THEY OF COURSE, WOULD ALSO HAVE SOLAR PANELS AND LIGHTS INSIDE THEM.
LIKE ALL OF OUR SHELTERS GENERALLY DO.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WHAT'S THE, UM, SO THE, THE PROCESS FROM TODAY, SO IF WE APPROVE THIS TODAY, THEN WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP? SO WE APPROVE IT TODAY, WE WOULD HAVE IT ON THE NEXT AVAILABLE COUNCIL MEETING, WHICH WOULD BE ON OCTOBER 7TH.
AND THEN OF EVERYTHING WENT SMOOTHLY AND GOT APPROVED THERE, WE WOULD DO THE PURCHASE AS SOON AS WE CAN START THE 18 WEEK BUILD CLOCK, RECEIVE THEM AGAIN IN FEBRUARY AND HAVE THEM INSTALLED IN MARCH.
AND BUDGET CONSIDERATIONS, THAT'S, IT'S ALREADY, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT'S BUILT INTO THE BUDGET OR IN ADDITION TO IT IS ALREADY IN THE BUDGET.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE A CIP ITEM FOR BUS STOP IMPROVEMENTS.
IT WAS PLAYING OUT OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS, BUT WE DID HAVE FUNDING ALREADY IDENTIFIED FOR THIS ITEM WITHIN THE BUDGET.
AND, UM, AND SO THE RESOLUTION TO APPROVE IS, SO, SO THE ACTION THAT WE NEED TO TAKE TODAY IS TO EITHER APPROVE OR ARE WE RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE OR HOW, I GUESS I'M JUST LOOKING FOR CLARIFICATION ON WHAT'S BEING ASKED FROM US TODAY.
YEAH, SO GENERALLY WITH ALL COMMITTEES AT THE CITY COMMITTEE'S, BOARDS, THEY DON'T HAVE FORMAL DECISION MAKING ABILITY.
SO ANYTIME WE BRING FORWARD THIS OR SIMILAR ITEMS, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS ASKING FOR A RECOMMENDATION AND THEN WHAT WILL WE DO IF WE RECEIVE THAT, WE BRING IT ON TO COUNCIL AND WE PRESENT IT AS TRANSIT ADVISORY COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED THAT COUNCIL ADOPT THE RESOLUTION, APPROVING IT.
AND THEN IF COUNCIL DOES, SO, THAT'S WHAT GIVES IT THE FORMAL DECISION MAKING ABILITY TO ACTUALLY MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.
UH, BUT OF COURSE WITH ANY ITEMS LIKE THIS, WE CAN ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, ADOPT IT AS IT'S WRITTEN IN HERE, UM, OR SOMETIMES DO AMENDMENTS WITH IT, THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES AS WELL.
I'M, UH, UH, STILL GETTING, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, ACCLIMATE, ACCLIMATED TO THE C YEAH.
UH, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT, UH, WE NEED, THAT PUBLIC COMMENT NEEDS
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TO, OR WE NEED TO MAKE AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY? YEAH, OF COURSE.SO WE WOULD, UH, OF COURSE HAVE THE QUESTIONS FROM THE, UH, COMMITTEE AS WE'RE DOING NOW, AND THEN WE ALWAYS OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC FOR ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS FOR A PERIOD, AND THEN WE BRING IT BACK ONE MORE TIME FOR DELIBERATION AND AN ACTION RECOMMENDATION.
THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I THOUGHT.
UH, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS BEFORE WE OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? IT'S A PROCEDURAL QUESTION.
IF WE DID, WHAT IF WE, THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WHICH IS UNLIKELY IN THIS CASE, BUT WHAT IF WE SAID, NO, WE DON'T LIKE THIS, WE DON'T RECOMMEND THIS.
HOW WOULD YOU PRO, WHAT DOES THAT, WHAT WAS THAT? WHAT WOULD HAPPEN? WELL, WHAT WE WOULD USUALLY DO IN THAT CASE, OF COURSE IT DOESN'T MOVE FORWARD.
IT, DEPENDING ON THE COMMENTS THAT WE GET, WE WOULD TYPICALLY AMEND THE ITEM, UH, BASED ON THE COMMENTS.
SAY IF IT WAS LIKE A MINOR ONE, LIKE WE DIDN'T LIKE THIS AMOUNT OR THAT COLOR, OR WE WANT THE ROUTE, IF IT'S A ROUTE GOING THIS WAY, NOT THAT WAY, WHAT WE WOULD USUALLY DO IS BRING IT BACK AND HAVE IT AS A CONTINUING ITEM.
SO KIND OF LIKE WE DID WITH A MEETING TIME ITEM AND WHAT WASN'T FULLY RESOLVED LAST MEETING, WE WOULD AMEND IT AND THEN WE WOULD COME BACK BASED ON THE INPUT WE RECEIVED FROM THE COMMITTEE, AND THEN WE WOULD ASK FOR ANOTHER APPROVAL.
THAT IS GENERALLY, IF THAT'S KIND OF THE GUIDANCE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE GENERALLY WANT IT, BUT THEY WANT SOME CHANGES VERSUS IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE JUST DIDN'T WANNA MOVE FORWARD WITH OVERALL.
UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYONE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO VIEW THE BROWN ACT TRAINING THAT THE CITY DID A WEEK AGO.
I THINK THAT COVERS A LOT OF IT.
AND THAT WAS ALSO RECORDED FOR VIDEO.
SO ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC THAT ARE INTERESTED IN LEARNING MORE ABOUT HOW THOSE DIFFERENT PIECES OF MEETINGS, WORK, COMMITTEE BOARDS, WHATEVER, I'D RECOMMEND A, UM, TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AS WELL, WHICH HELPS TO COVER ANY OF THOSE ITEMS. BUT GENERALLY THAT'S HOW THE PROCESS WOULD WORK.
IT'S JUST INTERESTING SINCE WE'RE ADVISORY, 'CAUSE YOU COULD IN THEORY GO AHEAD.
EVEN IF WE DIDN'T RECOMMEND IT.
UH, I THINK THAT'S SIMILAR TO HOW A LOT OF THE FUNCTIONS OF THE COMMITTEE WERE DESIGNED.
YOU KNOW, PETALUMA OBVIOUSLY WANTS TO GET A LOT OF INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY, THEY WANNA HAVE A LOT OF SUPPORT ON THESE ITEMS. SO WHEREAS A LOT OF COMMUNITIES MAY NOT HAVE THE EQUIVALENT OF TRANS ADVISORY COMMITTEE P BACK, MAYBE THESE THINGS JUST GO RIGHT TO COUNCIL.
BUT IT'S SKIPPING A, SKIPPING A REALLY IMPORTANT STEP IN HAVING THIS DISCUSSION IN MORE DEPTH, GETTING THE INPUT FROM THIS COMMITTEE.
I THINK IT REALLY HELPS TO GIVE COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, MORE CONFIDENCE THAT IT'S BEEN VETTED THROUGH ANOTHER BODY, ONE THAT REALLY HAS A LOT OF TECHNICAL KNOWLEDGE IN THE AREA SUCH AS THIS OR PBA BEFORE IT MOVES FORWARD TO 'EM.
SO I WOULD SAY THAT POTENTIALLY HELPS COUNCIL, BUT PERHAPS SOMETHING THAT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER
YEAH, I, I WOULD SAY THAT, UH, DON'T DISCOUNT THE FACT THAT I, I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KEEP A, AN INVENTORY OF THESE THINGS IN MY HEAD, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, I CAN, UH, I FEEL LIKE I COULD GO BACK AND FIND, UH, UM, ONE OR TWO TIMES A YEAR THAT, THAT SOME, UH, SOMETHING THAT GOES THROUGH A COMMITTEE LIKE THIS, UH, GETS DRASTICALLY CHANGED BECAUSE, UH, AND I, GOOD IDEA IS PUT FORTH THAT THAT HAS TO BE ADDRESSED.
AND, AND SO IT KIND OF, IT, IT KIND OF, UM, COMES, IT MAY EVEN COME BACK FROM THE COUNCIL TO THE, UH, TO THE COMMITTEE, UH, SAYING, YEAH, WE AGREE WITH YOU AND, AND WORK ON IT SOME MORE.
UM, THE ONE THAT COMES MOST TO MIND, FIRST OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD IS THE INTEGRATED PEST MANAGEMENT PLAN, UH, WHICH HAS BEEN BACK AND FORTH TO THE, UH, PARKS COMMITTEE AND THE COUNCIL.
AND I, I THINK IT'S DONE NOW, BUT I'M NOT POSITIVE ANYMORE.
IT'S GONNA MAKE SOME, AND A PIECE OF THAT TOO, I WOULD SAY IS KIND OF THE EFFICIENCY SIDE.
IT'S HARD TO HAVE THE FULL THROAT AND DISCUSSION OF EVERY ITEM THAT COUNCIL JUST GIVEN THE MULTITUDE OF THINGS THAT THEY HAVE.
SO IT WOULD BE HARD TO HAVE SUCH IN-DEPTH CONVERSATIONS ON EVERY SINGLE THING THAT GOES BEFORE 'EM, I WOULD SAY WITHOUT THE BENEFIT OF HAVING THAT MORE ROBUST DISCUSSION HERE.
ONE LAST TIME TO ADD ONE LAST COMMENT TO ADD ON THIS IS, UM, I, I BELIEVE THAT'S ALSO REALLY PART OF THE FUNCTION OF MR. ADE'S, UH, PRESENCE ON THIS BOARD IS, UH, ON THIS, ON THIS, IS TO HEAR WHAT WE HAVE TO SAY AND BE ABLE TO BRING THAT BACK TO COUNCIL.
SO IF WE DID HAVE REAL RESERVATION ABOUT IT, UM, UH, UH, MR. ADES HERE TO REPRESENT THAT POINT OF VIEW ON COUNCIL AT AT LEAST I BELIEVE THAT'S THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT SHOULD WORK.
I MEAN, AND WE REPORT OUT ON WHAT WE DO WITH THESE COMMITTEES, NOT, I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY REPORT OUT ON THE NEW DATE OF THE MEETING, YOU KNOW, BUT SURE.
UH, AND SO IF THERE, ARE THERE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS BEFORE WE MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT? I HAD ONE, NOT A QUESTION, BUT MORE OF A, OF A COMMENT.
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WELL, NO, A COMMENT AND THEN A QUESTION, JUST A PROCEDURE.BUT THE COMMENT BEING THAT I'M, I APPRECIATE THAT THE ELI ONES ARE BEING, UM, LOOKED AT.
THOSE HAVE FOR AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER, BEEN WOOD
BUT, UM, YEAH, I THINK IT'S ABOUT TIME THAT THOSE REALLY DO GET A REALLY NICE FACELIFT.
UH, BUT IN TERMS OF NEXT STEPS FOR WHAT'S BEING PASSED HERE OR POTENTIALLY BEING PASSED HERE, WOULD THAT BE GOING ON TO THE AGENDA OF THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THE NEXT MEETING? YEAH, NOT THE NEXT EXACT MEETING SINCE IT TAKES A LITTLE WHILE TO GET ON THE CALENDAR.
I BELIEVE THEY HAVE ONE MORE IN SEPTEMBER.
BUT GIVEN THE TIME TO ROUTE IT, IT WOULD BE ON THE OCTOBER 7TH MEETING.
SO BASICALLY THE FIRST MOST AVAILABLE MEETING AFTER THIS DATE, WE WOULD HAVE IT ON THERE.
SO PEOPLE WANT TO KEEP AN EYE OUT FOR IT.
THAT'S WHERE THEY WOULD SEE IT ON THAT MEETING AGENDA.
THAT TAKES US TO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.
DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? VERY GOOD.
SEEING NO PUBLIC COMMENTS, UH, THAT TAKES US TO, UM, STAFF COMMENTS ON THIS.
WE'VE HAD QUITE A BIT OF, UH, COMMENTARY ON IT.
DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL CO UH, ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? YES, DENNIS, DID YOU SEE IT? UH, JUST, UH, SORRY, UM, PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.
AND, UH, OR NOW MOVING ON TO, UH, COMMITTEE COMMENTS ON THIS SPECIFIC ITEM.
ANY, ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTARY ON THIS ITEM? OKAY.
UH, ARE WE LOOKING FOR A VOTE TO RECOMMEND? WE ARE.
AN ACTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL, MR. POKAY? ANY SECOND, UH, MS. ABRAMS. AND CAN WE HAVE A VOTE? ABRAMS? YES.
UH, AND THAT TAKES US ONTO, UM, COMMITTEE
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COMMENT, RIGHT? SO WE'LL OPEN UP, UH, THE FLOOR FOR ANY COMMITTEE MEMBERS WHO WANNA MAKE GENERAL COMMENTS.UM, AND WE'LL START ON THIS END AND MOVE OUR WAY.
WE'LL START ON THE RIGHT AND MOVE LEFT.
UM, FIRST THING, UH, I HAVE TO, UH, THANK EVERYONE HERE FOR, UH, THE, UH, THE BUS, THE NEW BUS EQUIPMENT, UH, ESPECIALLY AT THE CORNER OF FOURTH AND SEA, WHERE THIS GROUP OF FOLKS, I HAPPEN TO HAVE COUGH COFFEE WITH EVERY COUPLE OF WEEKS, YOU KNOW, THAT, UH, WILL BE VERY HAPPY TO, TO JUST, THEY'VE BEEN, THEY'VE BEEN, UH, LOOKING OUT FOR THAT FOR SOME TIME.
AND SECOND THING IS, UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BEEN PASSED THROUGH, UH, OUR TRANSIT COMMITTEE OR WHETHER IT'S SOME, SOME OTHER DEPARTMENT'S HANDLING THAT RIGHT NOW.
BUT THE ISSUE WITH THE, UM, UH, THE KENWORTH JUNIOR HIGH, UM, BUS STOP THAT SOME OF THE PARENTS AND, UH, LOCALS LIVING NEAR THE STOP WANTED TO CHANGE THE COLOR OF IT, BUT, AND THE COLOR HAD GONE THROUGH THE PRINCIPAL'S OFFICE EARLIER.
AND I JUST WONDER IF THERE'S ANY FOLLOW UP ON THAT? YES, THANK YOU.
SO, UH, WE HAVE SPOKEN WITH THE RESIDENT, I FORGET HER EXACT NAME, BUT WE DID SEND HER REPLY TO HER AND WE SENT ONE TO ALL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL ABOUT TWO WEEKS DESCRIBING THAT SHELTER.
THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME THROUGH THIS COMMITTEE AND WAS AGAIN, RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL OF COUNCIL.
WENT TO COUNCIL AND WAS APPROVED ABOUT TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO.
AND BASICALLY WHAT WE DID WAS AT KENILWORTH JUNIOR HIGH AND AT CASA GRANDE HIGH SCHOOL, WE WENT THROUGH AND IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, WE BASICALLY SPLIT THE FUNDING 50 50 TO INSTALL TWO SHELTERS AT EACH LOCATION AND FOUR BENCHES.
AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY UNIQUE TO EACH SCHOOL.
THEY'RE BRANDED AND THEY SAY THE NAME OF THE SCHOOL ON 'EM.
SO WE DID A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, A LITTLE BIT EXTRA, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THAT THERE'S SUCH HIGH RIDERSHIP STOPS, WE WANT 'EM UNIQUE TO THE SCHOOL BASED ON THE INPUT FROM THE PRINCIPALS AND FAMILIES SO THAT HOPEFULLY THERE'S LESS LIKELY VANDALISM AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND AT THE TIME WE SPOKE WITH THE SCHOOLS AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO GET THEIR INPUT ON DESIGNS LIKE COLORS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UH, ABOUT ONE WEEK BEFORE WE WERE INSTALLING ONE AT THE KENWORTH JUNIOR HIGH, WE HEARD FROM ONE OF THE RESIDENTS WHO WAS ASKING ABOUT THE STOP SAYING IF IMPROVEMENTS HAD TO GO IN, DID THE CITY HAVE TO IMPROVE THEM? AND WE LET HER KNOW THAT IT HAD ALREADY WENT BEFORE COUNCIL AND WAS APPROVED, YOU KNOW, AND WE'D BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A WHILE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE DISTRICT AND THAT IT'S ONE OF OUR, UM, GOALS OF COURSE INCREASED RIDERSHIP, ESPECIALLY AT OUR SCHOOLS, WHICH ARE HIGH USE FOR US.
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HAD ALREADY PURCHASED THE ITEMS, WE HAD THEM, THEY WERE BEING INSTALLED THE FOLLOWING WEEKEND, THEY WERE INSTALLED AND THEN A QUESTION WAS POSED TO COUNCIL, COULD WE CHANGE A COLOR OF THOSE? AND THAT'S WHEN STAFF REPLIED THE REPLY.AND THE RECOMMENDATION WAS, WE DON'T THINK IT WOULD MAKE THE MOST SENSE TO DO SO IN ORDER TO CHANGE THE COLOR.
YOU REALLY WOULDN'T WANT PAINT OVER IT AND SPRAY PAINT IT.
YOU WOULD WANNA POWDER COAT IT.
IF YOU WANT IT TO HAVE THE SAME DURABILITY, IT'LL LAST LIKE 20 YEARS.
OTHERWISE IT WOULDN'T HAVE THE DURABILITY, IT WOULDN'T LOOK GOOD EVERY TIME YOU LIKE HAVE TO CLEAN IT OR RESPRAY IT, IT'S GONNA LOOK WORSE AND KIND OF DECLINE OVER TIME.
AND AT THE TIME WE HAD THE PROCESS WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL AND THE DISTRICT AND THE FAMILIES.
SO ALTHOUGH WE ALWAYS WANNA PLEASE EVERYONE WITH THE COLORS OF IT AND ALL THOSE TYPE OF THINGS, WE'RE STRIKING A BALANCE WITH THAT ON SOMETHING THAT HAD ALREADY BEEN APPROVED AND SET IN MOTION FOR QUITE A WHILE.
SO THAT WAS THE LAST ACTION, IS THAT DEBRIEF TO COUNSEL THAT STAFF SENT WITH ALL THOSE ITEMS DISCUSSED IN IT? YEAH, NO, I THINK, I THINK I SAW THAT AND I THINK THAT, UH, UH, I PRESUME, UH, WELL I GUESS MY REAL QUESTION WAS, WAS THERE A SILENT AGREEMENT TO THAT OR, OR WAS THERE PUSHBACK STILL? NO, NO ADDITIONAL PUSHBACK.
THAT EMAIL DID INCLUDE THE RESIDENT WHO PROVIDED THE COMMENT.
IT WAS ACTUALLY SENT TO HER AND CCD COUNSEL AND SHE HAD A COMMENT, NOT VERBATIM, BUT ALONG THE LINES OF THANKS FOR THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
AND THAT WAS THE LAST, UH, CONVERSATION ON IT.
ALWAYS SOMETHING WE'RE HAVING TO TALK ABOUT.
THERE'S ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON IT? ANYTIME.
AND I WOULD JUST SAY, UM, A LOT OF THE FEEDBACK WE HAVE HAS ACTUALLY BEEN PRETTY POSITIVE FROM THE SCHOOLS AND THE PARENTS AND THE STUDENTS.
THEY'VE ACTUALLY REALLY ENJOYED HAVING THOSE SHELTERS PUT IN FOR THE MOST PART, I WOULD SAY.
ERIC? YEAH, I JUST HAD ONE COMMENT AND IT KIND OF IS ALLUDING TO WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT IN THE, UM, UH, MICRO TRANSIT IN TERMS OF, I DON'T KNOW, HAVING THE CONSIDERATION OR THE CONVERSATION OF THE USE OF ROUTE 24 ON THE WEEKENDS.
AND I'M NOT, I'M NOT GONNA SAY I'M AN EXPERT ON WHAT THE RIDERSHIP WOULD POTENTIALLY BE ON THE WEEKEND, BUT I WOULD IMAGINE THAT ON THE WEEKDAYS IT IS BECAUSE OF, OF KAISER.
BUT HAVING THAT, UM, BE SOMETHING WORKING OUT PERHAPS IN SOME HALF CAPACITY ON THE WEEKEND WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE NICE BECAUSE AS OF NOW, WHEN I WAS TRYING TO MAP OUT OR OUT FOR RIVERTOWN REVIVAL ON A SATURDAY, I'D HAVE TO WALK UP FROM WHERE I'M, WHERE I'M AT ON BAYWOOD, COME ALL THE WAY TO SOUTH MCDOWELL, TAKE THE 33 33 TO TO SAFEWAY, AND THEN THE 11 TO, TO COPELAND
AND SO MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT.
I'M NEW TO THE COMMITTEE, SO I DON'T KNOW, PROCEDURE REALLY.
WHAT WOULD BE ANY OF THE FOLLOW UP WE DO WITH THAT? YEAH, THANKS FOR THE COMMENT.
WE'RE HAPPY TO LOOK AT THAT FURTHER, BOTH ON THE MICRO AND THE FIXED ROUTE SIDE.
I WOULD SAY, AS YOU MENTIONED BEFORE, THE MAIN DESIGN INTENTION OF THAT ROUTE WAS TO SERVE THE KAISER AREA, WHICH IS OPEN MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.
UM, WE DO RUN ON OCCASION ON WEEKENDS ON THAT SERVICE FOR SPECIAL EVENTS, BUT NOT AS OFTEN.
WE'RE GONNA BE UPDATING OUR SHORT RANGE TRANSIT PLANS STARTING THE SECOND HALF OF THIS YEAR.
AND WE'RE REALLY GONNA TAKE A LOOK MORE AT EXISTING ROUTES, OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY WE COULD POTENTIALLY SERVE, LOOK AT THE MARKETS AGAIN.
AND I THINK DURING THAT PROCESS, WE'RE GONNA TAKE A LOOK AT ALL THE DIFFERENT ROUTES ONE BY ONE SUCH AS 24, 10, ALL THE ROUTES, AND SEE IF IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO MODIFY THE SERVICE, EXTEND HOURS, ADD MORE WEEKEND SERVICE.
THAT IS SOMETHING WE DEFINITELY HEAR ABOUT ON THE ROUTES SUCH AS THIS ONE THAT DON'T RUN ON THE WEEKENDS FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE IN TOWN HAVE BECOME A LIFELINE SERVICE.
SO IF YOU'RE TRYING TO LIVE CAR FREE AND YOU'RE TRYING TO USE TRANSIT, IT'S VERY HARD WHEN IT'S RUNNING JUST MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY OF COURSE.
SO THAT'LL BE SOMETHING WE TAKE A LOOK AT MORE THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
UM, BUT I APPRECIATE THE INPUT WITH ALL THAT.
I DID ATTEND THE BROWN ACT TRAINING, UM, AND WE HAD TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT, UM, IN ONE OF OUR, OUR LAST, IN OUR LAST MEETING.
AND SO I'M NO EXPERT OBVIOUSLY, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT, UH, THEY DID SAY THE EXCEPTIONS OF, UH, THINGS THAT HAD TO BE ON THE AGENDA ARE IN FACT BEING EXPERIENCED RIGHT NOW, THAT IT'S PERFECTLY OKAY TO HAVE BRIEF RESPONSE AND CLARIFICATION ON COMMENTS.
'CAUSE WE, WE HAD RAISED THAT, SO LIKE YOUR POINTS ON THE SAFETY OF THE BUS STOP WERE PERFECTLY FINE, JUST SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT.
UM, AND BUT ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WAS AN EXCEPTION WAS THAT, UM, REQUESTS FOR SUP, UH, SUPER FUTURE REPORTS, UM, BUT
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ALSO PLACEMENT OF ITEMS ON FUTURE AGENDAS WERE EXCEPTIONS.AND THIS TIES IN EXACTLY, UM, WITH YOUR COMMENT.
AND THEN BOTH FRANK AND I HAD ASKED LAST TIME, LAST MONTH ABOUT, UM, GETTING SOMETHING ON A FUTURE AGENDA TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS FOR WHAT YOU'RE NOW TALKING ABOUT OF, OF ASSESSING THE ROOTS, YOU KNOW, AND SO YOU JUST SAID THAT IT'S IN THE WORKS FOR LATER THIS YEAR, BUT MAYBE WE CAN GET ON AN AGENDA SOON, NEXT MONTH TO UNDERSTAND THAT PROCESS BETTER AND WHETHER OR NOT, YOU KNOW, JUST HOW DOES IT HAPPEN AND, AND WOULD THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE BE INVOLVED IN ANY WAY IN THAT OR AN AD HOC COMMITTEE? JUST I THINK IT'S ALL NEW TO US.
YEAH, WE'RE HAPPY TO ADD THAT.
UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S RELEVANT TO THIS, AS WE'RE CURRENTLY UPDATING OUR TITLE SIX PLAN OF THE 1964 CIVIL RIGHTS ACT, AND THAT ACTUALLY OUTLINES A LOT OF THE DIFFERENT PUBLIC OUTREACH PIECES THAT WE DO.
IT TALKS ABOUT HOW WE DO SERVICE CHANGES.
SO I THINK IT REALLY SPELLS OUT A LOT OF THIS PROCESS AND HOW IT PLAYS OUT WHEN WE'RE MAKING CHANGES TO THE SERVICE, THE INPUT THAT WE GET.
SO I THINK WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE'LL ADD THAT TO THE NEXT AGENDA.
'CAUSE IT'LL BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO SEE THAT PLAN WHAT'S IN IT, AND THEN HAVE MORE OF AN OVERVIEW DISCUSSION ON HOW WE DO MODIFY THE SERVICE, HOW WE GET INPUT FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND THIS COMMITTEE, FOR EXAMPLE.
SO OF COURSE IN OUR TRANSIT MANAGERS REPORT, WE HAVE ITEMS FOR UPCOMING AGENDAS.
WE'LL MAKE SURE WE ADD THAT AND DISCUSS THAT AT THE NEXT MEETING.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO SHARE WITH US THE OUTREACH PLAN? YES.
UM, AND THEN, BECAUSE I WAS RUNNING LATE, I MEANT TO BRING IN THE ARTICLE, BUT A COUPLE WEEKS AGO THERE WAS A, A LITTLE ARTICLE, UM, IN THE ARGUS ABOUT THE CHANGE IN, UM, THE SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH THIS GROUP WHO HAD, UH, OF, UM, PEOPLE, LOCAL PEOPLE WITH I THINK SOME CHALLENGES, SOME DISABILITY, YEAH.
AND I WAS, I WAS JUST LIKE, OH, WE'RE GETTING SO MUCH GOOD PRESS AND NOW THIS HAS SEEMED A LITTLE NOT WHAT WE WANTED TO PRESENT.
AND I WAS WONDERING IF THAT WAS PART OF THE CONTRACT EXTENSION THAT WENT THROUGH A, YOU KNOW, THREE MONTHS AGO AND IS THERE ANY WAY TO MITIGATE THIS? SO ACTUALLY, YES, BASED ON THE DISCUSSION THAT WE'VE HAD IN THAT ITEM THAT WAS PRESENTED AT COUNCIL ABOUT A MONTH AGO, WHAT WE'VE ACTUALLY DONE IS WE'VE WORKED WITH THAT GROUP, WHICH IS KNOWN AS OS OLD ADOBE DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES, AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF THE UNITED CEREBRAL PALSY OF THE NORTH BAY AGENCY.
AND WE'RE WORKING WITH 'EM ON EXTENDING AN AGREEMENT TO BRING THEM ON THE CLEAN BUS STOPS AND CONTINUE THAT SERVICES THEY'VE DONE.
AND THAT CONTRACT IS CURRENTLY BE EXECUTED RIGHT NOW, IT'LL BE DONE IN ABOUT A WEEK.
SO IN APPROXIMATELY A WEEK TO TWO WEEKS, THEY'LL BE BACK OUT SERVICING THE BUS STOPS AGAIN, WE RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF WORKING WITH THEM AND THE PARTNERSHIP THAT THE CITY HAS HAD WORKING WITH OS.
SO WE'RE STILL GONNA HAVE THE DEDICATED CLEANER THAT WAS INCLUDED IN LAST YEAR'S EXTENSION WITH MV, BUT IT'S GONNA WORK IN CONJUNCTION TO BE SUPPLEMENTED BY THE SERVICE PROVIDED BY OS.
SO THAT'LL BE EXECUTED IN ABOUT A WEEK, AND THEY'LL BE BACK OUT THERE SOON, CLEANING BUS STOPS AGAIN.
MR. TAR, I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD AT THIS TIME.
UM, I THINK, UH, THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME ABOUT THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE REQUESTS THAT WE HAD.
I THINK AS A, UM, AS A, AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR US TO UNDERSTAND HOW, UH, ROUTES ARE DETERMINED, UH, WHAT GOES INTO THAT AND, UH, JUST TO BE, YOU KNOW, BETTER INFORMED.
UM, I'D ALSO SAY, UM, ON A INDIRECTLY RELATED NOTE, ONE, ONE THING THAT I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN SEEING, UM, BECOME PART OF OUR MEETINGS IS, UH, DURING, AND, AND PERHAPS THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE MADE, UH, AVAILABLE DURING THE STAFF COMMENT, IS SOME, UH, MONTHLY REPORTING BACK ON, ON PERFORMANCE KPIS.
UH, BEING A SUPPLY CHAIN GUY, I LOVE DATA AND METRICS,
AND, UH, AND SO THINGS THAT I'M INTERESTED IN ARE, UH, HOW IS THE, UM, THE SERVICE PERFORMING TO BUDGET, UH, WHAT, YOU KNOW, ON TIME PERFORMANCE METRICS,
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BASICALLY, I'M INTERESTED IN UNDERSTANDING THE THINGS THAT, UM, YOUR GROUP IS LOOKING AT TO KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, HOW WELL WE'RE PERFORMING.UM, IT WOULD BE, UH, I THINK IN ALL OF OUR BENEFIT TO KNOW HOW WELL WE'RE PERFORMING, UH, ON AN ONGOING BASIS SO THAT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT CATCHES US BY SURPRISE.
UH, AND WITH THAT, THOSE ARE THE COMMENTS THAT I, OH, ONE OTHER THING I REALIZE IT'S NOT TRANSIT RELATED, BUT I'D LIKE TO, UH, CONGRATULATE THE, UH, PETALUMA VALLEY JUNIOR ALL STARS.
UH, NOW, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS ARE AWARE, BUT THEY WERE ONE GAME AWAY FROM GOING TO THE 14 U UH, LITTLE LEAGUE WORLD SERIES.
UH, AND, UH, AND, UH, SO THOSE ARE OUR, OUR BALL PLAYERS FROM EAST PETALUMA, AND WE WERE VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT.
MS. UM, I JUST HAD, I SUPPOSE, UH, COMMENT THAT GOES BACK TO MICRO TRA MICRO TRANSIT AND, UM, I, I THINK, UH, CURRENTLY ADVERTISING IT AS, UH, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE DUI PREVENTION TYPE CAMPAIGN WILL, MY CONCERN IS THAT PEOPLE WILL THINK THAT THEY CAN TAKE IT HOME, UM, AND THEY CAN'T.
AND SO IT, IT MAKES ME WONDER ABOUT THE UTILITY OF THE SERVICE FOR THAT PURPOSE.
UM, AND SO I, I JUST THINK THAT IT'S SOMETHING TO LOOK AT, UH, PARTICULARLY, I MEAN, I'M VERY PLEASED THAT THERE'S HOURS OUTSIDE OF THE, THE BUS HOURS ON THE, ON THE FRIDAY AND SATURDAY.
UH, BUT UM, IT, IT JUST MAKES ME WONDER HOW IT, HOW IT WILL BE PERCEIVED AS BEING USEFUL IF SOMEONE, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT LIKE UBER OR LYFT, WHICH TAKES YOU HOME.
AND, UM, AND THIS WON'T THANK YOU.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WHEN BLUE ZONES AND I WERE TALKING LIKE, OH, THIS ISN'T GONNA WORK WITH EVERY USE CASE, RIGHT? SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE PLANNING TO DO, WE HAVE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT WHAT ARE THE, WHAT ARE THE MODES PEOPLE ARE DOING RIGHT NOW? HOW ARE THEY GETTING TO AND FROM, HOW CAN WE HELP THAT? MAYBE WE CAN'T MITIGATE THE ENTIRE THING, BUT IN WHAT WAYS? SO WE'LL BE ATTENDING THE, UM, AND I FORGET THE NAME OF IT, I APOLOGIZE.
IT'S, UH, WITH ROTARY, THEY'RE DOING, IT'S LIKE A BREW EVENT ON THE WATER IN SEPTEMBER.
UM, AND, AND YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WENT AND SPOKE WITH THAT, THAT GROUP, IT WAS LIKE, WELL, WHAT ARE, WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT TRANSPORTING FOLKS? AND THERE WASN'T ANYTHING.
AND SO, UM, IN TERMS OF DIRECTIONAL, SO WE'RE HOPING THAT WHEN WE GO THERE AND WE CAN TABLE, WE CAN GET A BETTER SENSE OF WHAT ARE THE HOLES AND, AND HOW CAN WE, HOW CAN WE ASSIST? SORRY, ONE MORE THING.
UM, I GUESS YOU'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THIS IN A MINUTE, BUT I DID READ THE ARTICLE IN THE ARGUS COURIER ABOUT THE FREE FAIR PROGRAM AND HOW WELL IT'S BEEN RECEIVED, UH, BY PASSENGERS AND HOW IT'S INCREASED THE, THE RIDERSHIP, I GUESS, UH, ALREADY.
AND SO, UH, I JUST WANNA SAY I, I, UH, GOOD JOB,
I BELIEVE THAT, UH, CLOSES, UH, COMMITTEE COMMENT AND TAKES US TO
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STAFF COMMENT.UM, SO WE DO HAVE A RIDERSHIP UPDATE IN HERE, AND IT'S WORTH NOTING, UM, WHEN WE DO THE PACKET, OF COURSE WE ATTACH THE FIXED ROUTE AND THE PARATRANSIT RIDERSHIP THAT DOES HAVE MORE OF THOSE STATS.
BUT WHAT WE COULD DO, MR. CHAIR, IS WE CAN GO MORE IN DEPTH TO SOME OF THOSE RIDERSHIP, KPI, KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS NEXT TIME.
CARLY DOES A GREAT JOB TRACKING THIS AND HAS A SPREADSHEET WITH ABOUT 50 METRICS
SO WE'RE HAPPY TO PROVIDE THAT AND GO IN A BIT MORE DEPTH, UM, AND PEOPLE WANNA SEE THAT INFORMATION.
BUT WE ARE UP, UM, 11.6% IN JUNE, 2024 COMPARED TO THE PRIOR YEAR.
OF COURSE, IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT WE LAUNCHED OUR FAIR FREE SERVICE ON JULY 1ST.
THE FIRST TWO WEEKS OF JULY, WE ARE UP 60% ON THE FIXED DROUGHT SERVICE AND 50% ON THE PARATRANSIT.
AND SO NEXT MONTH WE'LL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE FIRST FULL MONTH RIDERSHIP AND REALLY START TO SEE HOW THOSE TRENDS ARE SHAPING UP.
OF COURSE, WE EXPECTED TO MOVE A BIT OVER THE FIRST FEW MONTHS OF THE PROGRAM, BUT SO FAR, SO GOOD.
AND EVEN PRIOR TO THAT, FOR THE ENTIRE FISCAL YEAR OF FY 24 RIDERSHIP ON THE FIXED ROUTE SYSTEM WAS UP BY 30%.
SO HOPEFULLY CONTINUING THAT TREND, WE'RE AT APPROXIMATELY
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85% OF PRE COVID LEVEL RIDERSHIP RIGHT NOW THAT WE ANTICIPATE WITH A FAIR FREE PROGRAM.IT'LL BE OUR FIRST YEAR PAST COVID, UM, AT FY 25.
OUR ELECTRIC BUS IS OF COURSE, STILL IN THE PROCESS OF BEING BUILT.
WE ARE SLATED FOR PRODUCTION IN DECEMBER AND RECEIVING THOSE BUSES IN FEBRUARY, ONCE WE GET THEM, IT'LL TAKE ABOUT A MONTH OR SO TO WRAP THEM, TO TRAIN DRIVERS ON 'EM, DO FINAL TESTING, SO HOPING TO HAVE THAT OUT AND RUNNING IN ABOUT MARCH OF NEXT YEAR.
ALSO, COINCIDING WITH THAT, OUR TRANSIT YARD IMPROVEMENTS WERE, WHICH WE'RE AT 90% DESIGN LEVEL NOW, HOPING TO HAVE THAT BID WITHIN A COUPLE MONTHS AND HAVE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS ALL DONE BY FEBRUARY.
SO WHEN THE BUS HAS ARRIVED, THEY'RE READY TO CHARGE AND OUT OF ALL THE NECESSARY INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THEM.
UM, SO WITH THAT, MARIA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON FAIR FREE AND SOME OF THE OTHER ITEMS? CARLY IS AMAZING AT NUMBERS.
I'M GOOD AT ANECDOTES,
I ALWAYS ENCOURAGE 'EM TO COME TO PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT I WILL SAY FROM THE PARATRANSIT SIDE, YOU KNOW, THE RESPONSE HAS BEEN REALLY AMAZING, HONESTLY, TO TEARS BECAUSE FOLKS ARE REALLY, THIS IS REALLY CHANGING THEIR LIFE.
SO, YOU KNOW, GREAT APPRECIATION FOR THE GUIDANCE THAT YOU ALL PROVIDE, UM, TO MAKE THESE THINGS HAPPEN.
UM, SO WE, YES, WE HAD THE WONDERFUL ARGUS, UH, DID A FEATURE AFTER THEY NOTICED ALL THE EXCITEMENT AROUND FEAR FREE.
UM, IT WAS REALLY, IT WAS AMAZING FOR ME ALSO TO BE ABLE TO RIDE AND HEAR FROM EVERYONE OF HOW, HOW WONDERFUL IT'S GOING.
UM, IN TERMS OF FEAR FREE, EVERYTHING IS OUT LOGISTICALLY AND OPERATIONALLY, MEANING WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE GOING FINE, BUT THERE'S DEFINITELY MORE MARKETING.
I WILL ALWAYS SAY THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
AND SO ONCE MICRO'S A LITTLE MORE WELL ESTABLISHED, WE'RE GONNA BE PUTTING MORE SHELTER MAPS, MORE SIGNAGE, BUT IT'S NOT A BAD THING BECAUSE THAT MEANS I CAN KIND OF HIT EVERYTHING WITH BOTH MICRO AND FAIR FREE.
UM, WE'RE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HAVE AN INTERN THIS SUMMER, UM, AND HE'S DOING A FEW OUTREACH ITEMS FOR ME TO REALLY MAKE OUR OUTREACH EVEN MORE ROBUST THAN IT IS NOW.
SO REALLY EXCITED, UM, FOR THAT.
I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE IN PARTICULAR IN FAIR FREE OTHER THAN IT'S, IT'S GOING REALLY WELL.
AND SPEAKING OF OUTREACH, YOU'LL SEE IN NEXT MONTH'S PACKET, WE'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF OUTREACH OVER THE PAST COUPLE WEEKS.
WE HAD SIX EVENTS THIS WEEK, WHICH WILL PROVIDE YOU SOME GREAT PHOTOS AT THE SCHOOLS.
WE ARE AT ALL THE MAJOR MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL ORIENTATIONS THIS WEEK AS WE GO EVERY YEAR.
AND THEN OF COURSE, AT PETALUMA NIGHT OUT ON, UH, WEDNESDAY THIS WEEK.
SO THAT WAS A GREAT TURNOUT AS WELL.
AND, UM, PETALUMA CITY SCHOOLS, I THINK I HAD MENTIONED THEY CAME, WHICH WAS REALLY FUN TO HAVE THEM ON SITE.
UM, IT WAS A REALLY FUN, IT WAS A SCAVENGER HUNT.
THEY WENT FROM SPACE TO SPACE, BUT IT WAS GREAT BECAUSE WE WERE ABLE TO TALK TO PRINCIPALS, UM, ADMINISTRATORS.
AND SO IT'S ALWAYS INTERESTING.
AND IN THOSE LIGHTER ENVIRONMENTS, WE GET TO REALLY HEAR ABOUT THEIR, THEIR FEEDBACK, BUT IT'S NOT AS FORMAL.
SO THEY ACTUALLY PUT ON GOGGLES AND THAT WERE, UH, SLIGHT DISTORTION OF THEIR VISION AND THREW BALLS BACK AND FORTH.
OUR, OUR GENERAL MANAGER WAS NOT AS EXCITED ABOUT HAVING THIS ACTIVITY IN THE YARD, BUT, UM, BUT IT WAS, IT WAS VERY INTERACTIVE AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
UM, WE'RE GETTING THESE OPPORTUNITIES.
AS I SAID TODAY, I WAS AT THE PET OF WOMEN'S CLUB.
I PRESENTED AT THE SENIOR ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
HONESTLY, WE'RE DOING SO MANY PRESENTATIONS, IT'S KIND OF AT THIS POINT, KIND OF HARD TO KEEP TRACK, BUT THAT'S A GOOD THING.
UM, AND SO WITH THAT, THAT IS THE LAST ITEM FROM US, UM, WORTH NOTING THAT WITH FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, OF COURSE, WE'LL ADD THOSE ITEMS THAT WE DISCUSSED, COVER THOSE AT THE NEXT MEETING, THAT INCLUDING, UM, TITLE SIX PLAN AND THEN HOW SERVICE IS CONSIDERED AND ADDED.
UM, I BELIEVE THAT BRINGS US TO A CLOSE AT 5 29.