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RECORDING IN PROGRESS.

ALL RIGHT, FOLKS.

[CALL TO ORDER]

IT IS SIX O'CLOCK HERE ON TUESDAY, AUGUST 27TH, AND WE'RE GONNA CALL TO ORDER THIS MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

COULD I PLEASE GET

[ROLL CALL]

A ROLL CALL OR EXCUSE ME, ROLL FROM THE CLERK.

COMMISSIONER FRY HERE.

COMMISSIONER HOOPER.

ABSENT.

COMMISSIONER MCCURLEY? HERE.

COMMISSIONER KUSON.

HERE.

COMMISSIONER NOEL HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER CATER THOMPSON.

ABSENT.

CHAIR MOSES HERE WE HAVE A QUORUM.

THANKS VERY MUCH FOR THAT.

UM, NEXT WE'LL MOVE INTO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.

ARE WE, ARE ONE GENERAL PUBLIC LOOKING AT YOU? NO.

OKAY.

UM, IN THAT CASE, I THINK WE CAN GO AHEAD AND COMMISSIONER, ASK IF THERE IS ANY GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT SUBMITTED BEFORE THE MEETING WE RECEIVED NO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING.

OKAY.

THEN WE'RE GONNA CLOSE A RIVETING SESSION OF PUBLIC COMMENT, GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, UM, AND THEN HEAD INTO WHAT IS JUST A PRESENTATION SECTION WITH NO PRESENTATIONS FOR TODAY'S MEETING.

SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THAT MEETING ITEM AND HEAD INTO

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

OUR APPROVAL OF MINUTES MEETING ITEM ONE, WHICH IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM OUR JUNE 25TH, 2024 MEETING.

ANY COMMISSIONERS WISH TO PROVIDE AMENDMENTS? SEEING NONE, WE DON'T HAVE TO VOTE ON IT.

GREAT.

STRAIGHT ON IN TO PUBLIC HEARINGS

[PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION]

AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION.

WE DO HAVE TONIGHT MEETING ITEM TWO, A STUDY SESSION, WHICH IS, I'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND READ IT.

RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY OF PETALUMA PLANNING COMMISSION TO RECEIVE A PRESENTATION INTRODUCING THE GENERAL PLAN, UPDATE DRAFT LAND USE POLICY FRAMEWORK IN PREPARATION FOR A STUDY SESSION TO SOLICIT INPUT AND PROVIDE NOT NON-BINDING COMMENTS.

AGENDIZED FOR OUR MEETING COMING UP ON SEPTEMBER 10TH PRESENTATION WILL INFORM THE COMMISSION ABOUT THE GENERAL PLANNED GENERAL PLAN UPDATE STATUS, AND PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE DRAFT LAND USE FRAMEWORK, INCLUDING KEY THEMES AND STRATEGIES FOR DISCUSSION.

THERE IS NO ACTION BEING TAKEN, THEREFORE, CQA DETERMINATION IS NOT REQUIRED.

AND WITH THAT, THAT, UH, WORTH NOTING THAT THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING AND DOES NOT REQUIRE COMMISSION TO DISCLOSE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS.

AND WITH THAT, I BELIEVE STAFF CAN GO FORWARD.

HEATHER? YES AND RON BACK AGAIN, THANK, THANK YOU CHAIR AND GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

UM, SO RON AND I ARE HERE YET AGAIN, UM, TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT GENERAL PLAN.

UM, SO KICKING OFF THIS EVENING'S INTRODUCTION TO THE LAND USE POLICY FRAMEWORK.

SO WHAT WE'RE EXPECTING TO DO TONIGHT IS REALLY TO PROVIDE A PROJECT UPDATE SPECIFICALLY ON WHERE WE ARE WITH THE GENERAL PLAN RECAP, UH, THE LAND USE DRIVERS, WHICH SHOULD BE FAMILIAR BECAUSE THEY ARE THE SAME THINGS THAT WE DISCUSSED WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

I BELIEVE IT WAS APRIL, EARLIER THIS YEAR, TO BRING YOU KIND OF UP TO SPEED WITH WHAT WE WERE TALKING TO GPAC ABOUT AND GET, UM, CONCURRENCE THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT THE RIGHT THINGS, THE RIGHT AREAS, UM, THE RIGHT ISSUES.

WE ARE GOING TO, UM, REALLY SET A CONTEXT FOR DIALOGUE ABOUT THE LAND USE FRAMEWORK.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT YOU JUST GOT THE LAND USE FRAMEWORK AT THE END OF LAST WEEK.

WE DO NOT EXPECT THAT YOU'LL HAVE READ THE LAND USE FRAMEWORK.

WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR YOUR COMMENTS ON THE LAND USE FRAMEWORK, BUT WE'RE HERE TO HELP KIND OF SET THAT STAGE, ANSWER ANY CLARIFYING QUESTIONS, UM, AND REALLY OFFER A DIALOGUE ABOUT SOME OF THOSE STRATEGIES, UM, THAT ARE IN THE LAND USE FRAMEWORK, UM, TO HOPEFULLY MAKE YOUR REVIEW A LITTLE BIT EASIER OR GET THE JUICES FLOWING.

SO WHEN YOU SIT DOWN AND READ WHAT IS A PRETTY SOLID DOCUMENT, UM, YOU HAVE SOME OF THOSE DISCUSSION AND DIALOGUE, UM, IN FRONT OF MIND.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO OUR, OUR ROADMAP, UM, WE ARE RIGHT THERE AT NUMBER FIVE.

WE ARE GETTING CLOSER AND CLOSER TO THAT FINISH LINE, UM, WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE GENERAL PLAN AT THE END OF NEXT YEAR.

UM, WE ARE ALSO LOOKING TO START TALKING ABOUT

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OUR ZONING CODE UPDATE, UM, AS WE MOVE INTO DRAFTING THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE A REMINDER THAT WE'RE HOPING TO DO THOSE RELATIVELY CONCURRENTLY SO THAT WE ARE NOT WORKING OFF WHAT WAS INTENDED TO BE AN INTERIM ZONING ORDINANCE 15 YEARS LATER.

SO, UM, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO START AS WELL.

SO JUST A REMINDER, THERE IS A LOT THAT WENT INTO THE POLICY FRAMEWORK.

SO YOU HAVE LOOKED AT ALL OF THE POLICY FRAMEWORKS, THE LAND USE FRAMEWORK IS THE FINAL, THE 14TH FRAMEWORK, UM, THAT HAS COME OUT AND THAT YOU ARE REVIEWING.

AND JUST AS A REMINDER, THERE IS ALL SORTS OF INFORMATION THAT WENT INTO THIS.

SO THIS WASN'T SOMETHING THAT POPPED UP OUT OF NOWHERE.

IT IS INFORMED BY THE OTHER PLANS WE'VE DONE THE, UM, COMMUNITY DRIVEN PROCESSES, WE'VE DONE OUR HOUSING ELEMENT, THE FLOOD AND SEA LEVEL RISE MODELING, ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE INFORMING THESE FRAMEWORKS.

SO JUST A REMINDER, UM, FOR THAT.

AND THESE ARE OUR 14 FRAMEWORKS AND WE ARE AT THAT FINAL LAND USE FRAMEWORK.

SO ANYBODY WATCHING AT HOME, ALL OF THESE FRAMEWORKS ARE ON THE GENERAL PLAN WEBSITE PLAN PETALUMA.ORG.

UM, THERE IS CURRENTLY A FEEDBACK FORM SPECIFIC TO THE LAND USE FRAMEWORK, LIKE THERE HAS BEEN WITH ALL OF THE OTHER FRAMEWORKS.

SO THAT IS THE ONE THAT IS A OPEN AND YOU'RE ABLE TO COMMENT VIA THAT ONLINE FORM AS WELL AS IN A LOT OF OTHER WAYS WITH COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT LATER.

SO THE OTHER THING I THINK IS HELPFUL TO REMEMBER IS THAT THE FRAMEWORKS ARE NOT THE DRAFT GENERAL PLAN.

SO FRAMEWORKS ARE DONE BASED ON TOPIC AREAS.

THEY ARE RELATIVELY SILOED, UM, IN THEIR DISCUSSION.

THAT IS NOT HOW WE ARE ENVISIONING THE GENERAL PLAN.

SO KIND OF REMEMBERING THAT OF SOME OF THE COMMENTS WE GOT ON THE FRAMEWORKS OR THEY'RE KIND OF DRY.

YES THEY ARE.

WE DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT.

UM, SO WHEN WE GO TO TAKE THESE, UM, FRAMEWORKS, TAKE ALL THE COMMENTS WE'VE RECEIVED ON THE FRAMEWORK AND MAKE IT INTO OUR GENERAL PLAN, IT WILL BE DIFFERENT.

WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT DIFFERENT WAYS OF ORGANIZING IT.

UH, WE HAVE INDICATED IT'S IMPORTANT TO US TO HAVE A DIGITAL GE GENERAL PLAN.

SO THERE WILL BE DIFFERENT CONSIDERATIONS TO DO THAT.

WE HAVE ONE OF THE COMMENTS WITH THE FRAMEWORKS WAS THERE'S NO IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.

WE KNOW THERE'S NO IMPLEMENTATION PLAN THAT IS COMING.

THAT WILL BE PART OF, UM, THE GENERAL PLAN AS WELL AS THE TRACKING PROGRESS.

SO, UM, JUST A REMINDER AS PEOPLE ARE REVIEWING THE LAND USE FRAMEWORK, UM, THAT THE GENERAL PLAN WILL BE DIFFERENT.

SO TONIGHT WE'RE REALLY KICKING OFF, UM, LIKE I MENTIONED THE 14TH FRAMEWORK THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS REVIEWED.

SO REALLY SEEING THIS AS A CONTINUATION OF A SERIES OF MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE HAD WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, TO REVIEW THE LAND USE FRAMEWORK AND MORE GENERALLY, WHERE ARE WE WITH THE POLICY FRAMEWORK REVIEW.

SO, UM, WE HAVE DONE A, A RELATIVELY EXHAUSTIVE, UM, TOUR TO THE CITY'S COMMITTEES AND COMMISSIONS, UM, ALLOWING EACH OF THE COMMITTEES AND COMMISSIONS TO REVIEW AND COMMENT ON THOSE AREAS THAT THEY'RE HAVE THAT EXPERTISE.

UH, THE GPAC HAS PROVIDED FEEDBACK, THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS PROVIDED FEEDBACK, CONSULTANTS AND STAFF HAVE REVIEWED THE COMMENTS ARE REVIEWING THE COMMENTS.

WE GOT A LOT OF COMMENTS.

SO IT'S GONNA TAKE A WHILE TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THOSE AND THINK OF STRATEGIES TO ADDRESS THE THEMES THAT COME UP.

UM, WE ARE TAKING THIS TO THE CITY COUNCIL IN SEPTEMBER TO PROVIDE THEM WITH THAT UPDATE.

UM, GIVE THEM A SENSE OF THE TYPE OF COMMENTS THAT CAME IN AND ALLOW THEM TO PROVIDE SOME FEEDBACK.

AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE REVISIONS ARE GONNA BE REFLECTED IN THE GENERAL PLAN.

WE ARE NOT REVISING AND REPUBLISHING THE FRAMEWORK.

SO THE FRAMEWORKS CAME OUT, WE GOT THE COMMENTS, WE ARE SYNTHESIZING THE COMMENTS INTO THE REVISIONS, WHICH ULTIMATELY WILL BE THE GENERAL PLAN.

SO WITH THAT OVERVIEW, I'M GONNA HAND IT OVER TO RON TO REALLY DIVE INTO LAND USE.

THANK YOU HEATHER, AND GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

IT'S GOOD TO SEE EVERYBODY AGAIN.

UM, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR I I, YEAH, BEFORE YOU START, I WANT TO THANK YOU.

I REALLY APPRECIATE AND THANK THE WHOLE TEAM.

REALLY APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.

HOW CAREFULLY

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AND THOROUGHLY YOU REVIEWED ALL OF THE PREVIOUS 13 POLICY FRAMEWORKS THAT WERE RELEASED.

YOUR INPUT WAS INVALUABLE, UM, AND WILL DEFINITELY HELP TO IMPROVE AND STRENGTHEN, UM, THE GOALS AND POLICIES AND STRATEGIES THAT YOU'LL SEE REFLECTED IN THE DRAFT GENERAL PLAN.

SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THAT.

UM, AGAIN, RON WHITMORE, I'M WITH REMAN ASSOCIATES, UM, UH, ONE OF THE CONSULTANT TEAM, UH, ME, UH, MEMBERS ON THE CONSULTANT TEAM HELPING THE CITY WITH A GENERAL PLAN UPDATE.

AS HEATHER MENTIONED EARLIER.

I'M GONNA QUICKLY RECAP SOME OF THE DRIVERS THAT, UM, BEHIND THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE LAND USE POLICY FRAMEWORK.

MUCH OF THIS IS REVIEW, BUT THOUGHT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO QUICKLY RECAP IT AND FOR OTHER MEMBERS, THE PUBLIC WHO MAY BE VIEWING MIGHT BE SOME NEW INFORMATION.

AND THEN WE'LL BRIEFLY TOUCH ON SOME POTENTIAL DISCUSSION TOPICS IF YOU'D LIKE TO DO THAT TONIGHT.

AND THEN GO THROUGH AN OVERVIEW OF THE FRAMEWORK SIMILAR TO HOW WE'VE DONE FOR THE PREVIOUS FRAMEWORKS.

UM, JUST TO CUT TO THE CHASE.

UM, THIS IS KIND OF WHERE WE'VE LANDED.

IT'S NOT DRAMATICALLY DIFFERENT FROM THE MAPS BEHIND YOU, WHICH ARE THE PREVIOUS ITERATION OF MAPS LIKE THIS.

UM, BUT IT REALLY BOILS DOWN TO FIVE MAJOR, UM, FOCUS AREAS FOR THE FUTURE OF SETTLEMENT PATTERNS AND GROWTH IN THE CITY.

UM, IN A NUTSHELL, REDUCING DEVELOPMENTAL ON THE RIVER WHERE THERE'S OPEN SPACE AND, UM, PROJECTED, UH, FLOODING AND OR SEA LEVEL RISE, INTENSIFY THE CORE AND THE ADJACENT KEY CORRIDORS.

UM, MAKE A 15 MINUTE CITY OUT OF PETALUMA, AND PART OF THAT IS CREATING 15 MINUTE ACTIVITY CENTERS IN KEY LOCATIONS ACROSS THE CITY.

AND THEN THEN TO SUPPLEMENT ALL OF THAT, UM, INTENSIFY AND DIVERSIFY USES WITHIN EXISTING RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.

WE'LL SAY MUCH MORE ABOUT THAT LATER, BUT JUST AS A RECAP IN TERMS OF WHERE THIS ULTIMATELY LANDED BEFORE WE REVIEW FOR YOU SOME OF THE DRIVERS THAT, UH, HELPED US ARRIVE TO THIS, THIS, UH, SPOT IN OUR, IN OUR DIRECTION FOR THE LAND USE FRAMEWORK.

UM, ANOTHER KIND OF CONTEXT SETTING PIECE.

UM, JUST A REMINDER THAT, UM, PLANNING AND PLANS SPECIFICALLY DO NOT DETERMINE WHAT HAPPENS IN THE FUTURE.

THEY REALLY SPEAK PRIMARILY, UM, TO THE TWO MIDDLE LAYERS THERE IN FORMING LAND USE POLICY AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND FACILITIES, UM, WHICH REALLY MEDIATE BETWEEN THE FOUNDATIONAL PIECES, WHICH ARE NATURAL, CULTURAL, HISTORIC RESOURCES, HAZARDS, OTHER, UM, NATURAL CONSTRAINTS AND WHAT THE MARKET DOES ON THE OTHER END OF THIS SANDWICH, WHICH IS REALLY RESPOND TO THE POLICY ENVIRONMENT CREATED BY YOUR GENERAL PLAN AND BY THE PUBLIC INVESTMENTS MADE.

SO MUCH OF WHAT WE'LL BE PRESENTING HERE AS RECAP OF DRIVERS, UH, TOUCHES ON ONE OR MORE OF SEVERAL OF THOSE LAYERS OF PLANNING.

UM, AGAIN, NOTHING, NONE OF THIS IS NEW, BUT AS A REFRESHER FOR SOME OF THE KEY ELEMENTS OF OUR ORIGINAL EXISTING CONDITIONS WORK THAT WE DID BACK IN 2021 THAT ARE PARTICULARLY RELEVANT FOR LAND USE.

OBVIOUSLY PETALUMA HAS A VERY UNIQUE SET OF HISTORIC RESOURCES AND IT'S A VERY HIGH PRIORITY FOR THE COMMUNITY TO PRESERVE AND ENHANCE THOSE.

UM, WE'VE DONE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MARKET AND ECONOMIC ANALYSIS TO INFORM OUR PLANNING AND LAND USE PLANNING SPECIFICALLY.

UM, PETALUMA IS LUCKY IN THE FACT THAT IT HAS EXTREMELY DIVERSE AND STABLE AND GROWING ECONOMY HAS A LOT GOING FOR IT.

UM, FROM A LAND USE PERSPECTIVE, JUST NEED TO BE AWARE THAT SOME, THERE ARE SOME EXISTING, AGAIN, THESE ARE EXISTING, THESE ARE CURRENT MARKET CONSTRAINTS IN TERMS OF WHAT, UH, PENCILS OUT IN TERMS OF, UH, INTENSE OR DENSITY OF HOUSING PRODUCTS SPECIFICALLY.

AND OVER TIME, PETALUMA HAS ALSO, UM, DEVELOPED, PROBABLY ARGUABLY A BIT TOO MUCH RETAIL, SO SOME PRUNING IS NEEDED, UM, BUT THAT ALSO CREATES OPPORTUNITIES FOR INFILL, UH, AND MIX OF USE.

UM, AND, BUT SOME OF THOSE SHOPPING CENTERS WILL PRESENT SOME CHALLENGES IN TERMS OF REDEVELOPMENT GIVEN THE NATURE OF LEASES, UH, AMONGST VARIOUS TENANTS, ET CETERA.

UM, AND THEN WE DO HAVE THE CHALLENGE OF FINDING ADDITIONAL ROOM FOR NON-RESIDENT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, UM, THROUGH THE PLANNING HORIZON.

WE ALSO KNOW A LOT, UM, THROUGH OUR COMPLIMENTARY, UM, CLIMATE ACTION PLANNING WORK AND TRANSPORTATION ANALYSIS.

UM, WE, WE ARE PRETTY CLEAR THAT, UM, MOST OF THE VMT IN THE CITY COMES FROM ON-ROAD TRANSPORTATION.

AND THE BULK OF THAT IS A FUNCTION OF PETALUMA HISTORIC LOW DENSITY SETTLEMENT PATTERN.

AND SO TO REDUCE VMT AND BY EXTENSION GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS, WE'RE GONNA WANNA DEVELOP IN A MORE DENSE WAY WITH A GREATER DIVERSITY OF USES SO THAT PEOPLE ARE CLOSER AND CLOSER TO THE PLACES THEY NEED TO GO EVERY DAY.

AND TO SUPPLEMENT THAT, REDUCE THE BARRIERS, UM, FOR

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THEM GETTING TO WHERE THEY NEED TO GO BY VARIOUS MEANS, HOPEFULLY WITH MEANS THAT, UH, EMIT FEWER GREENHOUSE GAS, UH, GREENHOUSE GASES.

UM, LIKEWISE, UH, THERE IS A PRETTY WELL ESTABLISHED DIVERSE, UM, TRANS TRANSIT NETWORK SPECIFICALLY.

IT CURRENTLY IS NOT IN A POSITION TO, TO MEET ALL THE CITY'S NEEDS IF IT WANTS TO, UM, MOVE TOWARDS CARBON NEUTRALITY AS IT AS IT HAS ESTABLISHED THE GOAL TO DO SO.

LOTS OF TRANSIT IMPROVEMENTS ARE FORECASTED, BUT THIS IS THE EXISTING SYSTEM THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH.

UM, NOT GONNA RECAP ALL OF THESE, BUT WE HEARD A LOT, WE'VE HEARD A LOT FROM THE COMMUNITY.

AND WHAT'S NICE IN PETALUMA IS THAT THERE'S A LOT OF CONSENSUS AROUND WHAT THE VISION FOR THE CITY IS FROM A LAND USE PERSPECTIVE.

AND MANY OF THE ELEMENTS OF THAT ARE CAPTURED HERE BACK IN 2022, WE TRIED TO CAPTURE THAT IN A GRAPHICAL DIAGRAM, DIAGRAMMATIC MANNER AS WELL.

AND SO WE CREATED A KEY STRATEGIES DIAGRAM THAT, UH, INTEGRATED OPEN SPACE, LAND USE PLANNING, UM, THOUGHT ABOUT POTENTIAL EXPANSION AREAS, THOUGHT ABOUT COMMUNITY CHARACTER GATEWAYS, FLOODING, ET CETERA.

UM, AND THAT WAS KIND OF OUR FIRST, OUR PASS AT THINKING ABOUT THE FUTURE OF LAND USE AND COMPLIMENTARY STRATEGIES.

UM, THEN IN THAT SAME YEAR, UM, THANKS TO A GREAT GROUP OF VOLUNTEERS, UH, WE ARE, UH, THE CITY WAS ABLE TO BRING, BRING THE S STAT TEAM FROM THE A I A TO TOWN TO SPEND AN INTENSIVE, UH, WEEK OR SO THINKING ABOUT SOME OF THESE BIG ISSUES FACING, UH, THE CITY AND SOME OF THE GOALS THAT RESIDENTS HAVE.

AND CAME UP WITH SOME GREAT IDEAS, MOST SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THE I OF PETALUMA AS A 15 MINUTE CITY AND LOTS OF IDEAS FOR HOW TO IMPROVE, UH, KEY CORRIDORS.

ALSO, IN 2023, WE DID SOME MORE INTENSIVE ECONOMIC FEASIBILITY ANALYSIS TO REALLY GET OUR HEAD AROUND WHAT CURRENTLY IS FEASIBLE FROM A DEVELOPER'S PERSPECTIVE.

AND THROUGH THAT WORK IDENTIFIED SOME SUGGESTIONS FOR, UM, REDUCING SOME OF THOSE COSTS SO THAT WE CAN MEET THE CITY'S HOUSING NEEDS.

AND THEN OBVIOUSLY ADOPTED AND GOT CERTIFIED THE HOUSING ELEMENT IN 2023.

AND PART OF THAT EXERCISE, UM, IDENTIFIED BOTH PIPELINE PROJECTS THAT WE ANTICIPATE WILL BE BUILT THROUGH THE END OF THE PLANNING HORIZON, WHICH WAS, UH, 20 30 31 , I ALWAYS FORGET THE EXACT YEAR.

UM, AND THEN ALSO IDENTIFIED OPPORTUNITIES OR OPPORTUNITY SITES WHERE THERE IS EXISTING SUFFICIENT CAPACITY ZONE CAPACITY FOR HOUSING TO MEET, UM, THE CITY'S AL ALLOCATION OF HOUSING UNITS THROUGH THAT PLANNING PERIOD.

AND THEN AGAIN, THE CITY BEING THE PROGRESSIVE CITY THAT IT IS.

UM, ALSO COMMISSIONED SOME, UM, AN UPDATE TO, UH, FLOOD MODELING, UM, CONSIDERING CHANGES IN PROJECTED RAINFALL, SEA LEVEL RISE AND THE ASSOCIATED FLOODING AND KING TIDES AND STORM SURGE.

UM, AND BASED ON THAT, BEGAN TO THINK VERY HARD ABOUT THAT INTER CRITICAL INTERFACE BETWEEN FLOOD RESILIENCE AND LAND USE PLANNING.

AND WE TALKED ABOUT THESE HIGH LEVEL STRATEGIES WITH YOU, I THINK BACK IN APRIL, UM, IN TERMS OF, UH, COMBINATION OF AVOIDANCE, REALIGNMENT PROTECTION AND ADAPTATION TO ADAPT TO THAT CHANGE, UM, THROUGH, UH, THE END OF THE CENTURY.

AND THEN ALSO, UM, WE'VE DONE SOME TRANSPORTATION ANALYSIS THAT I THINK WE SHARED THE OUTPUTS FROM WITH YOU IN APRIL.

UM, AND THE, TO CUT TO THE CHASE, THE BOTTOM LINE WAS THAT, UM, MOST OF YOUR IMPROVEMENTS IN ACCESSIBILITY IN THE CITY ARE GONNA COME FROM LAND USE CHANGE, UM, GETTING PEOPLE CLOSER TO EXISTING, UM, TRANSPORTATION NETWORKS AS OPPOSED TO, UH, CHANGES IN THE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM ITSELF.

AND THEN AROUND THIS ALSO IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS, UH, PUT TOGETHER AND INCLUDED IN THE PARKS FRAMEWORK THIS, UH, MAP THAT INCLUDES BOTH EXISTING AND PROPOSED, UM, ADDITIONAL PARKS THROUGH THE PLANNING HORIZON.

SO ALL OF THAT IS WHAT WENT INTO THE THINKING BEHIND THE DRAFT LAND USE POLICY FRAMEWORK THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING THIS EVENING.

CHANGING GEARS SLIGHTLY, BUT ALSO IMPORTANTLY, UM, WE'VE BEEN THINKING ALL ALONG ABOUT LIKE HOW MUCH WE NEED TO PLAN FOR, AND THESE ARE KIND OF SOME ROUGH TARGETS BASED ON BOTH THE SIX CYCLE ARENA ALLOCATION AS WELL AS PROJECTIONS IN THE PLAN 2040 AND 2050.

AND SOME WE'RE ASSUMING THAT WE'LL NEED AT LEAST 5,000 NEW RESIDENTIAL UNITS THROUGH THE PLANNING HORIZON.

THERE'S 2000 IN THE PIPELINE, AND SO WE ARE WANNA MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT CAPACITY FOR AT LEAST 3000 ADDITIONAL UNITS.

IN ADDITION, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THERE'S SUFFICIENT

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CAPACITY FOR PROJECTED NON-RESIDENTIAL GROWTH.

THAT BEING SAID, NONE OF US REALLY KNOW HOW MUCH GROWTH PETALUMA WILL EXPERIENCE IN THE PLANNING HORIZON.

UM, THE FIGURES ON THE RIGHT ARE FROM, UH, THE DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE, UM, AND DEPENDING ON WHICH ANALYSIS YOU'RE LOOKING AT AND HOW RECENTLY IT WAS DONE AND WHAT ASSUMPTIONS ARE BAKED INTO IT, UM, PETALUMA MAY OR MAY NOT GROW SIGNIFICANTLY.

AND SO THAT'S AN IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION WHEN THINKING ABOUT HOW MUCH CAPACITY TO CREATE RELATIVE TO, UM, MARKET DEMAND.

AND, AND THE, AND THE NET THEN IS WHAT INCENTIVES OR DISINCENTIVES YOU PROVIDE TO LANDOWNERS AND DEVELOPERS FOR WHERE TO BUILD AND HOW INTENSELY AND DENSELY TO PUT A LOT OF THIS TOGETHER.

UM, WE FIND THIS IMAGE REALLY HELPFUL IN TERMS OF THINKING CONCEPTUALLY ABOUT THE PHASING OF PETALUMA'S GROWTH IN THE NEXT 20 YEARS OR SO.

ON THE TOP, YOU'VE GOT THE VARIOUS, UH, THE HOUSING ELEMENT CYCLES THROUGH THE EIGHTH CYCLE, UM, ASSUMING SOME INTENSIFICATION, UM, WITHIN NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, THROUGH ADUS OR ADDITIONAL, UM, UNITS ON EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY LOTS.

UM, ANTICIPATING THAT THE CORONA STATION WILL COME ON BOARD AND IF MEASURE Y IS APPROVED, UM, A POSSIBLE, UM, EXTENSION OF THE CITY BOUNDARIES AND ADDITIONAL, UH, INTENSIFICATION AROUND A TOD THERE, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME IMPLEMENT PLANNING AND IMPLEMENTING FOR SOME OF THE RESILIENCE STRATEGIES THAT WE DISCUSSED EARLIER.

ANOTHER BACKDROP, ANOTHER PIECE OF THE BACKDROP THAT WE NEED TO KEEP IN MIND IS, AND THIS IS DIFFERENT FROM GROWTH PROJECTIONS, BUT OBVIOUSLY VERY RELATED, IS STATE LAW REQUIRES THAT IF THE CITY EVER REDUCES ITS, UH, RESIDENTIAL CAPACITY, IT MUST DEMONSTRATE WHERE IT HAS INCREASED CAPACITY TO AN EQUIVALENT OR GREATER AMOUNT.

WE'VE DONE SOME ROUGH ANALYSIS OF THE LAND USE CHANGE OPTIONS PRESENTED IN THE FRAMEWORK, AND HERE YOU HAVE THE SUMMARY.

SO IF YOU WERE TO TAKE ALL OF THE REDUCTIONS, WHICH ARE PRIMARILY PROPOSED AROUND, UH, ON THE, IN THE AREAS ADJACENT TO THE RIVER, UM, THE CITY WOULD BE DECREASING ITS HOUSING UNIT CAPACITY BY, BY, BY ABOUT 1900 UNITS IF IT INCREASED CAPACITY.

AND, UH, BY TAKING THE, THE, THE LOWEST OPTIONS, THE LEAST SIGNIFICANT CHANGES AND INCREASES IN CAPACITY ACROSS ALL OF THE, UM, CHANGES, UH, BEING POSSIBLE, CHANGES BEING, UH, FLOATED, UM, THAT WOULD GET YOU MORE THAN THAT LOSS ABOUT 2200 IF YOU WENT ON THE HIGH END.

AND THE COMMUNITY CHOSE TO, TO INCREASE CAPACITY SIGNIFICANTLY IN VARIOUS AREAS OF CHANGE IN THE FRAMEWORK THAT COULD GO AS HIGH AS 10,000.

AND NONE OF THIS IMPORTANTLY CONSIDERS ANY POTENTIAL FUTURE GROWTH IN THE CORONA STATION AREA.

UM, SO THIS BRINGS US TO KIND OF A HIGH LEVEL CONCLUSION OF, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T NEED TO FEEL TERRIBLY CONSTRAINED BY THE NEED TO AND PROVIDE SUFFICIENT GROWTH FOR, UM, UH, PROJECTIONS OR TO BE WORRIED TOO MUCH ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO DEMONSTRATE NO NET LOSS IN THE FUTURE, WHICH IS A GREAT POSITION TO BE IN.

IT REALLY ALLOWS THE CITY AND ITS POLICY MAKERS AND DECISION MAKERS AND COMMUNITY TO MAKE VALUES AND VISION DRIVEN DECISIONS AS OPPOSED TO FEELING CONSTRAINED, UM, BY THE NUMBERS.

UM, SO YOU CAN BE REALLY THOUGHTFUL AND STRATEGIC AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE ALLOWING FOR THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT AT THE INTENSITY AND DENSITY THAT YOU REALLY LIKE IT AND PREFER TO SEE IT AT IN THE FUTURE AS OPPOSED TO FEELING CONSTRAINED OR FEELING LIKE YOU NEED TO CREATE MORE CAPACITY THAN YOU MIGHT OTHERWISE THINK IS APPROPRIATE.

AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR FEEDBACK IN APRIL.

UM, THIS IS WHAT WE, UM, HEARD FROM YOU WHEN WE TALKED SPECIFICALLY ABOUT LAND USE AT THE APRIL 9TH MEETING.

UM, AGAIN, IT WAS EXTREMELY HELPFUL AND IT AS, AND AS WAS THE FEEDBACK ON THE OTHER POLICY FRAMEWORKS.

UM, WE TOOK IT VERY MUCH TO HEART.

WE GOT SIMILAR INPUT AND DIRECTION FROM CITY COUNCIL LATER IN THE MONTH OF APRIL.

AND SO IN SOME WHAT'S NEW AND DIFFERENT, UM, IN THE LAND USE POLICY FRAMEWORK FROM WHAT WE DISCUSSED BACK IN APRIL ARE, ARE THESE THINGS ON THIS SLIDE, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S FEEDBACK FROM THE GPAC INCORPORATED.

WE GOT STAFF FEEDBACK, UM, UPDATED IT BASED ON SOME OF THE INFORMATION I SHARED ON SLIDES PREVIOUSLY AND THEN OBVIOUSLY FEEDBACK FROM YOU AND COUNCIL.

AND SO THERE ARE A COUPLE CHANGES IN THE AREAS OF CHANGE DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE DISCUSSED IN APRIL.

UM, ONE WAS BASED ON A SUGGESTION I THINK EITHER FROM PLANNING COMMISSION OR CITY COUNCIL TO NOT

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CONSIDER THE DOWNTOWN AS A WHOLE.

INSTEAD THINK ABOUT IT AS AS SMALLER CHUNKS WHICH WE'VE, UH, REFLECTED IN THE AREAS OF CHANGE SECTION OF THE FRAMEWORK.

UM, AND THEN WE ALSO, UM, INCORPORATE INTO THE AREAS OF CHANGE, UH, INTENSIFICATION ACROSS WASHINGTON FROM THE VACANT PARCEL ADJACENT TO THE DOWNTOWN SMART STATION TO KIND OF COMPLIMENT THE LEVEL OF INTENSIFICATION CONSIDERED THERE.

UM, AND THEN WE ALSO, UH, ADDED A, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER AT LAKEVILLE AND MC MCDOWELL, I BELIEVE IT IS, UM, BASED ON, I BELIEVE IT WAS CITY COUNCIL MEMBER SUGGESTIONS.

UM, ONE THING YOU, IF YOU'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR IT, YOU WILL NOT NECESSARILY EXCUSE ME NECESSARILY SEE IN THE LAND USE POLICY FRAMEWORK IS SOME OF THE FEEDBACK WE GOT ON THE 13 OTHER FRAMEWORKS.

AS HEATHER MENTIONED EARLIER, WE'RE STILL DIGESTING, REVIEWING, DETERMINING HOW BEST TO RESPOND TO ALL THE 2200, I THINK IT WAS COMMENTS THAT WE GOT ON THE 13 DIFFERENT FRAMEWORKS.

UM, AND SO BECAUSE OF WE ARE, WE'RE RACING TO GET THE LAND USE FRAMEWORK DONE AND TO YOU, WE DIDN'T TAKE THE TIME TO CONSIDER IMPLICATIONS OF SOME OF THOSE COMMENTS FOR LAND USE.

AND SO, SO THEY'RE A BIT KIND OF OUT OF ALIGNMENT FROM A TIMING PERSPECTIVE.

AND SO YOU WON'T SEE THINGS THAT MAY BE RELATED TO PARKS OR TRANSPORTATION THAT ROSE UP AS KIND OF AREAS OF OF SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC COMMENT NECESSARILY REFLECTED IN THIS FRAMEWORK.

WHICH IS TRUE THOUGH OF ALL OF THESE, RIGHT? AS LIKE WE'VE, WE'VE SAID FROM THE GET GO THAT ALL OF THESE TOPICS ARE EXTREMELY INTERRELATED LAND USE MORE THAN ANY OTHER.

AND SO IN THAT, UM, INITIAL DRAFT OF THE GENERAL PLAN, WE'LL BE SURE TO DO ALL OF THAT INTEGRATION AND MAKE SURE THAT CHANGES THAT WE'RE GONNA MAKE IN THE, FOR THE OTHER TOPICS ARE IN ALIGNMENT WITH, UM, THE LAND USE, UM, ELEMENT AND ALL THE OTHER COMPONENTS OF THAT INITIAL DRAFT PLAN.

SO AGAIN, JUST TO SUMMARIZE, THIS IS KIND OF STILL WHERE, UH, WE'RE HEADED WITH REALLY TWEAKS TO WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY, NO SIGNIFICANT MAJOR CHANGES OR ADJUSTMENTS.

UM, IF THE COMMISSION THIS EVENING DOES WANNA ENGAGE SOME, UM, UH, DIALOGUE QUESTIONS TONIGHT, UM, WE PROVIDE, WE, I'M GONNA PROVIDE JUST A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT FOR THOSE.

GPAC UM, HAD A CONVERSATION LIKE THIS, SO A WEEK OR A COUPLE WEEKS AGO AND FOUND IT, WE FOUND IT VERY HELPFUL AND I THINK THEY FOUND IT, UM, FRUITFUL AS WELL.

BUT JUST TO PROVIDE SOME CONTEXT FOR THAT, IF THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT.

UM, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, UM, A GENERAL PLAN CANNOT WILL THE PREFERRED FUTURE INTO EXISTENCE.

UM, IT CAN SET THE TABLE, IT CAN PROVIDE THE RIGHT ENVIRONMENT, BUT IT CAN'T MAKE THINGS HAPPEN NECESSARILY.

UM, BUT, AND IT USES A VARIETY OF TOOLS TO TRY TO MAKE THAT ENVIRONMENT AS, UM, ATTRACTIVE AS POSSIBLE FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AND, UM, MAKE, UH, CITY INVESTMENTS AND HAVE CITY ACTION TAKEN TO SUPPORT THAT.

AND SO THIS IS JUST A SYNOPSIS OF THE MAJOR STRATEGIES OR TOOLS EMPLOYED IN THE FRAMEWORK.

OBVIOUSLY THE, THE, THE CENTER OF IT IS LAND USE DESIGNATIONS AND THE LAND USE MAP, AND THEN ALSO A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF LAND USE POLICY THAT IS HOPEFULLY, UM, VERY PRECISE AND STRATEGIC IN ITS WORDING AND CLEAR ABOUT THE DIRECTION SETTING IT'S DOING.

AND THEN YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF REFERENCES FOR NECESSARY AND MUNICIPAL CODE UPDATES IN THE FRAMEWORK.

UM, AND AS, UH, HEATHER MENTIONED EARLIER, THAT PROCESS WILL LIKELY START SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

BUT ULTIMATELY MUCH OF WHAT, UH, NEEDS TO HAPPEN WILL, SHOULD BE REFLECTED THROUGH THE CODE THAT REALLY IS USED DAY TO DAY TO INFLUENCE, UH, THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT.

THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND OTHERS CAN ALSO MAKE INVESTMENTS AND DO THEM IN SUCH A WAY THAT COMPLIMENTS THE PREFERRED LAND USES CAN ALSO DO ADDITIONAL PLANNING.

UM, WE KNOW THOSE CITY'S ALREADY ON TRACK TO DO A PLAN FOR THE GREATER CORONA SMART STATION AREA AND SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS.

UH, THE FRAMEWORK SUGGESTS POTENTIAL UPDATES TO OTHER PLANS AS WELL.

AND THEN THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF ACTIONS THAT CAN BE TAKEN, WHETHER THOSE ARE PROJECTS, PROGRAMS, OR OTHER TYPES OF IMPLEMENTING ACTION.

UM, SO IT'S NOT JUST POLICY.

THERE'S A LOT THAT A GP CAN DO AND A LAND USE ELEMENT CAN DO SPECIFICALLY TO HELP A COMMUNITY ACHIEVE ITS VISION.

AND SO WHAT, UH, IF YOU'D LIKE, COULD, COULD HAVE A DIALOGUE THIS EVENING ABOUT THESE SORTS OF QUESTIONS.

WE FIND IT USEFUL TO STEP BACK AND REMIND OURSELVES WHAT SOME OF THE MAJOR SPECIFIC GOALS ARE THE COMMUNITY HAS AND ASK OURSELVES, HAVE WE DONE EVERYTHING IN THIS FRAMEWORK TO ACHIEVE THIS GOAL ON THIS PAGE?

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OR SOME OF THOSE, LIKE PEOPLE WE'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THE NEED TO REVITALIZE CORRIDORS.

EAST WASHINGTON IS A BIG ONE THAT COMES UP A LOT.

HAVE WE DONE, HAVE WE INCLUDED ALL THE DIFFERENT POTENTIAL STRATEGIES YOU MIGHT TAKE OR USE OR EMPLOY TO REALIZE THAT VISION IN THIS FRAMEWORK? WE DON'T HAVE A SECTION AS YOU AS IF YOU'VE LOOKED THROUGH IT ALREADY.

THERE'S NOT A SECTION CALLED EAST WASHINGTON CORRIDOR AND HERE'S EVERYTHING WE'RE GONNA DO TO RE TO TO ADDRESS IT, RIGHT? YOU HAVE TO FIND IT IN VARIOUS SECTIONS OF THE PLAN.

SO IT'S HELPFUL TO STEP BACK AND ASK YOURSELF, YOU KNOW, FOCUSED ON A SPECIFIC AREA OR PARTICULAR GOAL, WHAT ALL COULD WE DO TO ACHIEVE THAT? AND THEN ASK OURSELVES, HAVE WE GOT EVERYTHING THAT WE SHOULD HAVE IN THE FRAMEWORK? SO JUST AS TABLE SETTING FOR THOSE CONVERSATIONS, YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE THEM.

THIS IS WHAT THE FRAMEWORK IN ITS CURRENT FORM INCLUDES FOR ADDRESSING SOME OF THESE HIGH PRIORITY AREAS.

SO FOR INSTANCE, THE DOWNTOWN SMART STATION, YES, WE TRY TO GET THE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS AND AND RELATED STANDARDS, RIGHT? UM, YES, WE'VE TRIED TO UPDATE NECESSARY FOLLOW ON AMENDMENTS TO THE CODE, UM, AND SUPPORTING PLANS, PUBLIC INVESTMENT WILL BE IMPORTANT TO SUPPLEMENT THOSE LAND USE CHANGES, UM, AS WELL AS A LOT OF COLLABORATION AND COORDINATION, NOT THE LEAST OF WHICH IS THE SMART, UM, TRANSIT SERVICE.

UM, AND THEN ALSO CONNECT THAT HUB TO THE REST OF THE CITY'S TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM, UM, AS WELL AS FOR FOLKS WHO ARE NOT USING MOTORIZED VEHICLES TO GET AROUND.

AND THEN THE CITY ALSO CAN TAKE A PROACTIVE ROLE IN FACILITATING AND SUPPORTING AND ENCOURAGING DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA.

I'VE DONE A SIMILAR THING FOR THE EAST WASHINGTON CORRIDOR, SIMILAR BUT DIFFERENT AND TAILORED MIX OF STRATEGIES.

THESE ARE WHAT'S IN THE CURRENT FRAMEWORK, LIKEWISE FOR 15 MINUTE ACTIVITY CENTERS.

UM, SO IF THE COUNT THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE, WE CAN COME BACK TO THESE AND, AND TALK FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, THAT FRAME OF REFERENCE OUTSIDE OF THE STRUCTURE OF THE, UH, FRAMEWORK.

OKAY, SO THAT'S TWO THIRDS OF WHAT I'M GONNA PRESENT.

WHAT'S LEFT IS THE OVERVIEW OF THE FRAMEWORK.

UM, GONNA TRY TO MOVE THROUGH THIS RELATIVELY QUICKLY, UM, KNOWING THAT EVERYBODY HAS ACCESS TO IT AND CAN DIGEST IT, BUT DO HAVE SOME, SOME, I THINK SOME ORIENTATION WE THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL AND HAVE SOME POINTERS FOR WHERE TO MAYBE, UM, FOCUS YOUR TIME GIVEN THAT IT'S A PRETTY DENSE DOCUMENT OVERALL.

IT'S GOT, UM, A PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD STRUCTURE, A VERY SHORT OVERVIEW, AN INTRODUCTION THAT SETS A LOT OF THE CONTEXT.

TRY TO BE VERY CLEAR AT THE FRONT END WHAT THE LAND USE DRIVERS ARE, UM, BASED ON SOME OF THAT CONTEXT.

UM, AND THEN WHAT THOUGHT IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT HOW THIS, ASSUMING THAT THIS WILL MORPH INTO A LAND USE ELEMENT, HOW THE LAND USE ELEMENT IS USED IN A PRACTICAL WAY.

UM, IT'S USED DAY TO DAY BY PLANNERS AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN AND WHAT DOES THAT, HOW IS IT USED AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR HOW YOU HAVE TO CRAFT POLICY, HOW CLEAR YOU NEED TO BE IN THE ESTABLISHMENT OF STANDARDS.

UM, DEFINING DE DESIGNATIONS, ET CETERA.

UM, AND THEN WE HAVE A LAND USE FOUNDATION SECTION.

AGAIN, THIS IS KIND OF THE HEART OF THE GENERAL PLAN WHERE WE, UM, IDENTIFY SOME CHANGES PROPOSED TO THE DESIGNATIONS, SOME ADDITIONS, AND THEN ALSO PROPOSE, UM, SOME POTENTIAL APPLICATION OF THOSE VARIOUS DE DESIGNATIONS IN WAYS DIFFERENT THAN THE CURRENT LAND USE MAP, UM, USES THEM.

AND THEN THERE'S FOUR CHAPTERS.

THE FIRST CHAPTER IS ALL ABOUT, UM, THE EVOLUTION OF THE CITY FROM A CITYWIDE PERSPECTIVE.

SECOND CHAPTER IS ALL ABOUT THE 15 MINUTE CITY, THE THIRD SUPPLEMENTARY AND COMPLIMENTARY DESIGN AND CHARACTER.

AND THEN FINALLY, THERE'S THE SUB AREA POLICIES.

AND BECAUSE WE KNOW MANY OF THE LAND USE TERMS ARE TECHNICAL, WE WENT AHEAD AND INCLUDED AS A REVISED VERSION OF THE LAND USE, UM, TERMS IN THE CURRENT GENERAL PLANS GLOSSARY.

UM, I'M GOING TO GO STEP BACK A BIT AND GO THROUGH THESE IN A LITTLE MORE DETAIL AS I GO THROUGH THIS.

I'VE HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE WHAT YOU'VE SEEN ALSO IN THE FRAMEWORK IF YOU LOOKED AT IT ALREADY.

THOSE AREAS WHERE WE REALLY WANNA FOCUS THE COMMUNITY'S ATTENTION AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PUBLIC REVIEW PROCESS THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30, IS WHERE THERE'S SIGNIFICANT CHANGE BEING PROPOSED, WHERE WE'RE VERY PARTICULARLY ANXIOUS TO GET FEEDBACK.

UM, SO IN THE LAND USE FOUNDATION SECTION, AS I MENTIONED, WE HAVE PROPOSED A NUMBER OF REVISIONS TO AND ADDITIONS TO THE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS, WHICH MERITS A LOT OF CONSIDERATION.

PERHAPS THAT MIGHT BE A PLACE WHERE YOU'D WANNA FOCUS YOUR SEPTEMBER, UM, 10TH MEETING.

UM, LIKEWISE, AS WE BEGAN DISCUSSING BACK IN APRIL, A LOT OF IDEAS FOR POTENTIAL CHANGES IN LAND USE DESIGNATION AND DIFFERENT WHAT WE'RE CALLING AREAS OF CHANGE AROUND THE CITY.

UM, HERE'S A QUICK RECAP OF WHAT'S NEW, UM, IN THE LAND USE DESIGNATION SECTION.

I DIDN'T INCLUDE ALL OF THE DESIGNATIONS

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IN THE RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL, AND PUBLIC SECTIONS.

JUST HIGHLIGHTED THOSE THAT ARE ADDITIONS IN THE MIXED USE.

AS YOU PROBABLY ARE FAMILIAR, THERE'S CURRENTLY JUST ONE MIXED USE DESIGNATION, BUT BECAUSE OF SOME CONSTRAINTS OF STATE LAW, WE THINK IT'S WISE TO EXPAND THAT AND, UH, HAVE A MORE, MORE PRECISE SET OF MIXED USE DESIGNATIONS LARGELY TO CORRESPOND WITH YOUR ZONING AND SMART CODE DESIGNATIONS.

UM, AND SO THERE'S A WHOLE SLEW OF NEW ONES PROPOSED THERE, AND THEN A SLIGHT REVISION TO THE EXISTING, UH, MIXED USE, CALLING IT URBAN TOWN CENTER MIXED USE.

AND THEN WE HAVE A, UH, COUPLE MAPS SHOWING THESE AREAS OF CHANGE WITH THE CURRENT GENERAL PLAN DESIGNATIONS OR WHERE IT'S MORE APPROPRIATE, THE, UM, MIXED USE ZONE OR THE, UH, THE, THE T DESIGNATION FROM THE CPSP.

AND THEN WE GET INTO THE CITYWIDE EVOLUTION SECTION.

I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH THESE IN GREAT DETAIL, BUT, UM, BASICALLY FIVE THRUSTS OF THIS CHAPTER.

THE FIRST IS REALLY LARGELY ABOUT MEASURE Y, WHICH WE'VE JUST PUT IN THE FRAMEWORK AND IT'S LANGUAGE THAT WILL BE ON THE BALLOT, UM, WHICH BASICALLY SHOWS IN STRIKEOUT FORM THE EXISTING GENERAL PLAN LANGUAGE AND THE PROPOSED CHANGES.

AND THEN GOAL TWO IS ALL ABOUT, UM, PRESERVING OPEN SPACE, BOTH WITHIN AND ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING CITY BOUNDARIES.

GOAL THREE IS ALL ABOUT FOCUSING DEVELOPMENT THEN INWARDS WITHIN THIS EXISTING BOUNDARIES AND ANY POTENTIAL FUTURE EXPANSION STRESSING IN GOAL FOUR, THE IMPORTANCE OF SYNCHRONIZED SYNCHRONIZING CLOSELY LAND USE AND TRANSPORTATION.

AND THEN FIVE, JUST REALLY LIFTING UP THE RIVER AS A CENTERPIECE OF THE CITY.

AND VERY MUCH A FOCUS OF MUCH OF THE LAND USE PLANNING AND THINKING.

I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH THESE IN TREMENDOUS DETAIL, JUST TOUCH ON SOME OF THE BLUE HIGHLIGHTED ONES.

UM, SO IT'S IN GOAL THREE, POLICIES THREE, TWO, AND THREE, THREE WHERE YOU'LL SEE SOME PROPOSED, UM, STRATEGIES, UM, WHICH WOULD REALLY REQUIRE CODE UPDATES TO FACILITATE HIGHER DENSITIES AND MORE MIXED USE IN VARIOUS PARTS OF THE CITY.

AND THEN IN GOAL FIVE, UH, A QUITE DETAILED SECTION THAT'S AN EFFORT AT BRINGING INTO ALIGNMENT LAND USE WITH MANY OF THE STRATEGIES YOU SAW IN THE FLOOD RESILIENCE POLICY FRAMEWORK.

AND AS PART OF THAT, WE'VE MAPPED SOME POTENTIAL BUFFER AND RETENTION AREAS, WHICH ARE REALLY JUST A REFLECTION OF PROJECTED LEVELS OF SEA OR FLOODING OR SEA LEVEL RISE.

AND, AND AS AN AID JUST SHOWN, WE'VE, WE'VE IDENTIFIED THREE DIFFERENT SECTIONS OF THE AREAS ALONG THE RIVER AND SUGGESTED PROPOSED, UM, STRATEGIES ASSOCIATED WITH THEM AND PROVIDED THIS MAP TO SUPPORT PEOPLE'S UNDERSTANDING OF WHICH GEOGRAPHY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND WHAT THE CURRENT, UH, DESIGNATIONS ARE.

CHAPTER TWO'S ALL ABOUT CREATING PETALUMA AS A 15 MINUTE CITY.

IT STARTS WITH IDENTIFYING POTENTIAL ACTIVITY CENTERS, BUT WE KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT ENOUGH.

WE ALSO NEED TO MAKE, UH, COMPLIMENTARY CHANGES IN THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE, UM, WE CAN BOTH INCREASE, UM, DENSITY AND DIVERSIFY USES THERE, THEREBY BEING MORE PEOPLE, PEOPLE CLOSER TO DAY-TO-DAY, UM, AMENITIES AND DESTINATIONS.

AND THEN OBVIOUSLY RECOGNIZING THE NEED TO MAKE PUBLIC INVESTMENTS IN THE CORRIDORS, ROADWAYS, PUBLIC REALM TO, UM, TO FACILITATE AND MAKE MORE PLEASANT AND EASIER TO TRAVEL BETWEEN HOMES AND HOPEFULLY SOME OF THOSE CLOSE DAILY DESTINATIONS.

UM, AGAIN, WE'RE, I THINK WE HAVE THE, IT'S LARGELY THE SAME LIST, UH, UM, OF 15 MINUTE ACTIVITY CENTERS, BUT ALWAYS LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK ON WHETHER WE'VE GOT THIS RIGHT OR MISSING ANY.

UM, MISS MAP ISN'T ALL THAT DIFFERENT FROM WHAT YOU'VE SEEN PREVIOUSLY.

UM, WHAT I'M NOT SURE YOU SAW PREVIOUSLY, AND THIS IS INCLUDED IN THE FRAMEWORK, IS A, A MORE DETAILED BREAKDOWN OF THE DISTINCTIONS BETWEEN THE THREE TYPES THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED.

TOWN CENTERS BEING THE LARGER, UM, OF THE THREE SERVING A MUCH LARGER GEOGRAPHY, 15 MINUTE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS BEING MORE LIKE NEIGHBORHOOD, VERY WALKABLE, UM, MUCH SMALLER IN SCALE TYPES OF CENTERS.

AND THEN FINALLY, UM, ACTIVATED PARKS OR MINI CENTERS, WHICH ARE MUCH MORE, UH, SOCIAL GATHERING PLACES, UM, PLACES FOR POP-UP ACTIVITIES, THAT SORT OF THING.

UM, AND THEN TO COMPLIMENT THOSE ACTIVITY CENTERS I MENTIONED EARLIER, UM, THERE'S STRATEGIES FOR INTENSIFYING, OR EXCUSE ME, INTENSIFYING THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND ALSO DIVERSIFYING USES.

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AND THEN CHAPTER THREE, DESIGN AND CHARACTER.

WE WANTED TO JUST NOT BURY SOMEWHERE ELSE AND REALLY LIFT UP, UM, AND, AND RECOGNIZE AND HONOR THE PRIORITY THE CITY GIVES TO STRONG SENSE OF PLACE, UM, AND SUSTAINABILITY AND HIGH QUALITY DESIGNS.

WE PUT THOSE ALL TOGETHER IN CHAPTER THREE.

UM, AND THEN I THINK THAT IS IT.

OH, AND THEN, UM, CHAPTER FOUR SUB AREAS.

UM, THESE ARE A UPDATED REVISED VERSION OF WHAT'S IN THE CURRENT GENERAL PLAN.

MUCH OF WHAT WAS IN THERE WAS, WAS EITHER, UM, REDUNDANT WITH WHAT'S IN SOME OF THE CITYWIDE STRATEGIES AND THOSE CASES WE CREATE, WE ADDED CROSS REFERENCES.

IN OTHER CASES THINGS WERE JUST OUTTA DATE.

AND SO WE DID A LITTLE CLEANUP, UM, AND REFINEMENT OF THOSE AREAS.

AND THEN FINALLY, UM, IF YOU DON'T WANNA JUST SIT DOWN AND READ THROUGH THE ENTIRE A HUNDRED PAGE DOCUMENT, UM, BECAUSE MANY OF YOU I ASSUME ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH MUCH OF THE MATERIAL AT THE FRONT END, I'D SUGGEST SKIMMING THROUGH MUCH OF THE FRONT END PIECES.

UM, START WITH THE OVERVIEW OF LAND USE DIRECTION, WHICH IS KIND OF AN ORIENTING SECTION OF THE FRAMEWORK.

AND THEN IF YOU'VE GOT LIMITED TIME AND ENERGY FOCUS ON THESE FOUR AREAS IN THE FRAMEWORK.

THE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS, THE AREAS OF CHANGE, THE SUMMARY OF SHIFTS IN LAND USE DIRECTION, WHICH IS THE TOP OF CHAPTER ONE, AND CROSS REFERENCES WHERE THOSE SHIFTS ARE IN THE FRAMEWORK.

AND THEN THE CHAPTER TWO 15 MINUTE CITY STRATEGIES.

WE OF COURSE, VERY MUCH LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S FEEDBACK.

UM, WE WELCOME THAT CERTAINLY DURING, UM, THIS MEETING OR THE SEPTEMBER MEETING FOR OUR PURPOSES WRITTEN FEEDBACK IS ALWAYS EXTREMELY HELPFUL.

UM, AND WE JUST ASKED IF YOU'RE GONNA PROVIDE FEEDBACK IN WRITING AS YOU DID.

AND IT WAS, IT WAS REALLY, REALLY HELPFUL THE WAY YOU DID IT WITH THE OTHER FRAMEWORKS WHERE, UM, YOU IDENTIFIED SPECIFIC GOALS, POLICIES IN MANY CASES SHOWED IN STRIKE OUT WHAT SPECIFICALLY YOU THINK SHOULD BE CHANGED OR ADDED LANGUAGE THAT YOU THINK NEEDED TO BE, UM, YOU THOUGHT WAS MISSING, NEEDED TO BE INCLUDED.

THAT'S ALL EXTREMELY HELPFUL.

UM, SO IF YOU PLAN ON LOOKING AT IT THAT SAME LEVEL OF DETAIL AND HAVE THAT SORT OF FEEDBACK, GO AHEAD AND JUST WRITE IT DOWN AS YOU'RE GOING THROUGH AND, UM, SUBMIT IT TO ANDREW AND HIS STAFF THAT'LL THEN BECOME PART OF THE PUBLIC RECORD.

AND THEN YOU WON'T NEED TO WORRY ABOUT HOW WELL WE'RE RECORDING YOUR VERBAL COMMENTS DURING THE, UH, SEPTEMBER 10TH MEETING.

AND I THINK THAT'S IT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO STAFF AND THE GREATER GENERAL PLAN TEAM.

YOU GUYS ARE PUTTING IN A LOT OF WORK AND IT SHOWS.

SO THANK YOU AGAIN, UM, FOR LOOPING US INTO THE PROCESS IN A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS.

UM, NOW WE'RE GONNA MOVE INTO QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

AS A REMINDER, WE ARE NOT LOOKING FOR COMMENTS HERE AND IN FACT, NOT AGENDIZED FOR GRANULAR IMPACT TONIGHT.

UM, SO WITH THAT, ANY COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS, GO FOR IT.

THE QUESTION, UM, IN ALL THE PROPOSALS FOR INTENSIFYING, UH, USE, IT SEEMS TO BE PRIMARILY MIXED USE OR MIXED USE WITH RESIDENTIAL, A BIG COMPONENT GIVEN THE STATE OF THE WORLD.

I DON'T THINK IT WILL BE COMMERCIAL.

I DON'T THINK IT WILL BE OFFICE.

SO IT PUTS THE PRESSURE ON HOUSING AND THEN IT STATES THAT ANYTHING OVER FOUR STORIES IS NOT FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE PRESENTLY.

SO I'M NOT SURE WHY WE HAVE SO MUCH HIGH INTENSITY PROPOSALS WHEN IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE MUCH OF A DEMAND.

UM, NOW, UM, AND IT ALSO SEEMS TO BE, UH, SPREAD ALL OVER THE PLACE.

I MEAN, IT, IT, IT SEEMS LIKE IF YOU HAD FIVE DISTRICTS THAT YOU WANTED TO IMPROVE AND YOU GOT ONE BUILDING IN EACH DISTRICT, YOU HAVEN'T ACHIEVED YOUR GOAL.

BUT IF YOU HAD FIVE BUILDINGS IN ONE DISTRICT, I THINK YOU CLOSER TO ACHIEVING YOUR GOAL.

SO HOW DO YOU, HOW DO WE UNDERSTAND WHERE THE PRIORITY IS OR WHERE TO EMPHASIZE WHAT? I MEAN IN, IN MANY CASES YOU TALK ABOUT CORRIDORS, BUT THERE'S NO DISCUSSION OF WHAT THE CORRIDOR SHOULD DO.

LIKE PETALUMA BOULEVARD, IT'S GOT A 14 FOOT MEDIAN THAT'S ASPHALT, THAT'S, THAT'S VERY SELDOM USED, BUT IT'S THERE BECAUSE EVERYBODY TURNS LEFT INTO THEIR INDIVIDUAL DRIVEWAYS.

BUT YOUR LAND USE INTENSITY TENDS TO REMOVE THOSE DRIVEWAYS.

SO THAT'S 14 FEET OF, OF LAND THAT COULD IMPROVE PETALUMA BOULEVARD, BUT THERE'S NO DISCUSSION OVER THAT IN TERMS OF INCREASING THE, THE CORRIDOR, IMPROVING THE CORRIDOR, AND THEN THE CORRIDOR HAS TO BE DONE FROM ONE BLOCK

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TO THE NE TO THE OTHER.

IT CAN'T BE DONE PROJECT BY PROJECT, OTHERWISE YOU'LL NEVER GET A QUARTER, THERE'S NO DISCUSSION OF CITY, YOU KNOW, INVESTING IN THAT.

IT'S A HUGE COST, BUT THERE'S NO DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW WE ACHIEVE A CORRIDOR IN REALITY.

SO THAT'S THE FIRST QUESTION IS REALLY THE LAND USE INTENSITY, WHERE IT IS OR WHERE IT MIGHT NOT BE, OR HOW DO, HOW DO WE ACHIEVE A DISTRICT SUCCESS VERSUS INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS? UH, THAT'S THE FIRST QUESTION.

UH, I THINK THOSE ARE FANTASTIC QUESTIONS.

UM, THANK YOU.

I ACTUALLY ANTICIPATE THAT, WELL, LET ME BACK UP.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE AT THIS POINT SOLICITING INPUT ON WHAT LEVEL OF WHAT LEVEL AND MIX OF CHANGE PEOPLE THINK IS APPROPRIATE IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY.

WE'VE NARROWED IT DOWN, AS YOU'VE NOTED, TO SOME PRETTY SPECIFIC AREAS, THE CORE AND CORRIDORS FOR THE MOST PART RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T NECESSARILY ANTICIPATE THAT WE CHANGE THE LAND USE DESIGNATION IN ALL OF THOSE AREAS.

PART OF WHAT WE'RE INTERESTED IN HEARING FROM PEOPLE ABOUT IS WHAT LEVEL AND MIX OF CHANGE THEY THINK IS APPROPRIATE IN EACH OF THOSE AREAS.

AND THEN BASED ON WHAT WE HEAR, WOULD HOPE THAT IN COLLABORATION WITH YOU AND CITY COUNCIL WOULD COME UP WITH A STRATEGIC CHOICE ABOUT WHERE TO FOCUS, UM, FUTURE DEVELOPMENT THROUGH AND FACILITATE IT THROUGH CHANGES IN LAND USE DESIGNATION.

SO, SO YEAH, DON'T, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN CLEAR ABOUT IS DON'T, WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY SUGGESTING ALL OF THE ABOVE.

WE'RE INTERESTED IN KNOWING HOW APPROPRIATE PEOPLE THINK THESE TYPES OF CHANGES ARE IN THESE DIFFERENT PLACES, AND THEN ASSUMING THAT WE'LL PICK AND CHOOSE THOSE BASED ON THAT INPUT THAT SEEM MOST APPROPRIATE.

UM, BUT FROM A PLANNING STANDPOINT, ARE SOME OF THE OPTIONS BETTER THAN OTHERS? ARE THEY ALL EQUALLY, I MEAN, IT SEEMED LIKE FROM A, FROM A MASTER PLAN GENERAL PLAN STANDPOINT, YOU SHOULD HAVE AN OPINION ABOUT WHERE WE SHOULD DO IT, WHERE WE DO THE MOST GOOD, WHERE IT HAS THE MOST EFFECT.

UH, I WOULD SAY PROBABLY YES.

UM, I, AND I THINK THE COMMUNITY'S BEEN CLEAR ABOUT THOSE PRIORITIES.

I THINK THE, THE ONE THAT COMES IMMEDIATELY TO MIND WOULD BE AROUND THE LARGEST TRANSPORTATION HUBS.

UM, AND SO THE ONE, THE BIGGEST ONE THAT EXISTS IS IN WHERE THE, UM, TRANSIT MALL AND SMART STATION ARE CO-LOCATED, WHICH IS ALSO EXTREMELY CLOSE TO DOWNTOWN.

SO THAT WOULD BE AN OBVIOUS TOP CHOICE FROM A PLANNER'S PERSPECTIVE.

UM, AND THEN THE, AND THEN DEPENDING ON THE COMMUNITY'S VISION THROUGH THE SPECIFIC PLAN, POTENTIALLY THE OTHER SMART STATION.

UM, AND THEN IT'S I THINK A STRATEGIC CHOICE ABOUT WHERE WITHIN ALL THOSE NEARBY CORRIDORS AND DOWNTOWN ADDITIONAL MIX AND INTENSIFICATION MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE.

SO LET ME UNDERSTAND, YOU'RE THE MASTER PLAN.

THE, THE LAND USE PLAN THAT WE REVIEWED IS NOT A PROPOSAL, IT'S JUST THESE, ALL THESE THINGS COULD BE, AND YOU GUYS FIGURE OUT WHICH ONES YOU LIKE AND THEN THAT'S WHAT WE'LL PUT IN THE PLAN.

YEAH, SO WHAT WE DID HERE, WHICH IS NOT WHAT, HOW WE ALWAYS APPROACH THIS IS WE REALLY COMBINED A POLICY FRAMEWORK WITH WHAT IN SOME PLANNING PROCESSES WE DO AS A, EXCUSE ME, AS A LAND USE ALTERNATIVES BRIEFING BOOK.

AS WE WERE WORKING ON BOTH, WE FOUND THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE SO INTERRELATED, AND THAT'S REALLY HARD TO THINK ABOUT LAND USE CHANGE OUTSIDE OF THE CONTEXT OF COMPLIMENTARY LAND USE POLICY, WE THOUGHT THERE WAS BENEFIT TO BRINGING THE TWO TOGETHER.

BUT THAT DOES THAT, THAT DID MEAN THOUGH, AS YOU POINTED OUT, THAT WE'RE NOT PROPOSING SPECIFIC RECOMMENDED CHANGES IN DESIGNATION IN THIS DOCUMENT.

THE, DID WE TAKE THAT SLIDE OUT? BUT, UM, WHAT, WHAT THE PLAN IS, IS HAVE THIS PUBLIC REVIEW PERIOD THROUGH SEPTEMBER, GET, AND IN THE PROCESS GET SPECIFIC FEEDBACK FROM PLANNING COMMISSION AND GPAC, AND THEN THE PLANNING TEAM WILL, BASED ON THAT FEEDBACK, DEVELOP A PROPOSED REVISED LAND USE MAP, WHICH WOULD DO EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE SUGGESTING, WHICH IS MAKE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS FOR WHERE TO MAKE WHAT CHANGES, THEN BRING THAT BACK FIRST TO PLANNING COMMISSION FOR DISCUSSION AND FEEDBACK AND BASED ON YOUR RECOMMENDATION, BRING THAT TO CITY COUNCIL FOR A DECISION.

AND SO YES, YOU'VE NAILED IT ON THE HEAD.

THE INTENT EXACTLY IS TO FLOAT OPTIONS, LIFT UP WHAT'S INFORMING THOSE SO THAT PEOPLE HAVE SOME METRICS AGAINST WHICH TO EVALUATE THEM.

AND THEN BASED ON PEOPLE'S FEEDBACK, COME BACK WITH A REC

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RECOMMENDED STRATEGIC INTEGRATION OF THAT FEEDBACK, FEEDBACK IN A RECOMMENDED LAND USE MAP.

OKAY.

SO, UM, I, I THINK I AGREE THAT THE TRANSPORTATION HUBS ARE LOGICAL PLACE, BUT BEYOND THAT, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE A SENSE OF WHAT'S, WHAT'S PRIORITY.

BUT I DO THINK A, A DEVELOPMENT PROJECT THAT ACHIEVES A CORRIDOR OF IMAGE, A A POSITIVE CORRIDOR LIKE OR WASHINGTON, UM, THAT INCLUDES MULTIPLE PARCELS IN ITS, YEAH, IMPACT IS A, IS A BETTER SOLUTION THAN DIFFERENT PROJECTS ALL OVER TOWN.

IT HAPPENED TO MEET THE 60 FOOT HEIGHT LIMIT AND THEY, THEY DON'T CON, I DON'T THINK THEY'LL CONTRIBUTE WHAT WE WANT AS A SENSE OF PLACE.

SO I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE EMPHASIZE HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE MAINTAIN THE SENSE OF PLACE THAT PETALUMA IS, HOW DO WE IMPROVE UPON IT AND HOW DO WE STRENGTHEN IT THROUGH CORRIDOR DESIGN, BOULEVARD DESIGN AND PROJECT DESIGN ALTOGETHER? BECAUSE YEAH, IF YOU JUST DO, IF YOU DON'T DO THE PET OF BOULEVARD AS A PROJECT, OR WASHINGTON AS A, AS A PROJECT, I MEAN IN TERMS OF MILES, IF YOU ACHIEVE NOTHING MM-HMM, , AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE CITY HAS A WHEREWITHAL OR THE FINANCES OR THE ABILITY TO FUND THAT KIND OF A PROJECT OR IF THEY INTEND TO.

NO, I TOTALLY AGREE.

AND I, I THINK IT WAS YOU WHO GAVE US STRONG FEEDBACK EARLIER ON THE IMPORTANCE OF HIGH LIFTING UP CORRIDORS.

AND SO WE DID SPECIFICALLY ADD, JUST TRYING TO REMEMBER, IT'S IN CHAPTER THREE, UH, GOAL 11, UH, A SECTION SPECIFICALLY FOCUSED ON GATEWAYS AND CORRIDORS.

AND IN THAT, I SEE THOSE, BUT I DON'T SEE THEM TIED IN WITH THE ALTERNATIVES FOR, AH, PETA BOULEVARD, FIRST AND FOREMOST, NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO IN PETA BOULEVARD AS A STREET, AND THEN THERE'S THE ADJACENT, UH, LAND USE NEXT TO IT.

YEAH.

AND I DON'T SEE THAT PRIOR.

NO, YOU'RE RIGHT.

WE DON'T HAVE A SECTION THAT SAYS THIS IS THE, THE, THE, THE COMPLETE SET OF STRATEGIES FOCUSED SPECIFICALLY ON THIS CORRIDOR.

YEAH, YEAH.

I HAVE IT, I HAVE IT IN SOME SLIDES TONIGHT, BUT, UM, THE, THE FRAMEWORK DOESN'T DO THAT SPECIFICALLY.

IT'S, IT'S A CHALLENGE OF PLANNING, QUITE FRANKLY, THAT YOU'VE PUT YOUR FINGER ON, WHICH IS THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT THE MARKET LARGELY DETERMINES WHAT HAPPENS TO THE CORRIDOR.

THE PUBLIC CAN PRODUCE STREETSCAPE PLANS, MAKE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE PUBLIC REALM, MAKE SURE THE SUPPORTING INFRASTRUCTURE IS THERE, MAKE SURE THE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS REFLECT WHAT, UM, PEOPLE REALLY WANNA SEE AND ALLOW THE FLEXIBILITY OF THE MARKET NEEDS.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHAT GETS WHAT GETS BUILT, UM, IS GONNA BE DONE PRIMARILY BY, FOR, YOU KNOW, PRIVATE DEVELOPERS, RIGHT? SO I, WE THINK WE'VE GOT THE MIX OF STRATEGIES IN HERE.

IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT SUMMARIZED IN A, IN ONE SECTION, BUT WE THINK, BUT IF YOU, BUT YOU THINK WE'RE MISSING THINGS, THEN THAT'S DEFINITELY THE TYPE OF FEEDBACK WE'RE INTERESTED IN.

I GUESS THAT'S THE, THE QUESTION I'M ASKING.

IT SEEMS LIKE WHATEVER HAPPENS BY DEVELOPMENT, IT'S GONNA HAPPEN LOT BY LOT PIECE BY PIECE, AND IT'S NOT GONNA ADD UP TO MUCH FOR A LOT.

IT MAY ADD UP TO SOMETHING GOOD IN 40 YEARS, IT MAY ADD UP TO SOMETHING BAD IN 40 YEARS, BUT THERE'S NO WAY TO REALLY ENSURE WE'RE BUILDING SOMETHING HERE THAT'S GONNA STRUCTURE THE REST OF THE DEVELOPMENT FOR PETALUMA THAT'S GONNA CARRY THE, THE WEIGHT OF WHAT IT SHOULD FOR A PRIMARY BOULEVARD AND BE A POSITIVE THING FOR BICYCLES AND FOR PEDESTRIANS AND FOR TRANSPORTATION AS WELL AS AN ARMATURE FOR DEVELOPMENT.

BUT RIGHT NOW I HEAR WE'RE JUST GONNA DEVELOP PIECE BY PIECE BY PIECE.

THERE'S NO CONTINUITY AND GUARANTEED STREET TREES WILL ALL BE PLANTED AT WHATEVER YEAR THEY'RE PLANTED AND SOME WILL SURVIVE.

UH, IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A VERY STRONG PLAN.

UH, WE DID TALK ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT WITH GPAC IN TERMS OF WE HAVE AREAS OF OUR CITY MOST SPECIFICALLY ARE DOWNTOWN, WHERE WE'VE DONE A LOT OF GREAT WORK TO HAVE OUR FORM-BASED CODE TO HAVE UNLIMITED DENSITY, TO HAVE REDUCED PARKING, LIKE ALL THESE THINGS TO, AND, AND THOSE HAVE ALL BEEN REALLY STRONG THINGS TO DO.

AND YET WHEN YOU'RE STANDING IN THAT AREA, SPECIFICALLY BY THE SMART STATION, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE DEVELOPMENT.

AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID TALK WITH GPAC IS THINKING ABOUT WHAT ELSE DO WE NEED TO GET THE DEVELOPMENT WE WANT IN THE AREAS WE WANT? AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID DISCUSS WAS WHAT IS THAT LEVEL OF PUBLIC INVESTMENT THAT I THINK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF LIKE, NOT JUST SAYING YOU SHOULD

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HAVE A 10 FOOT SIDEWALK AND PLANT THREE TREES, BUT ACTUALLY GO IN AND DO IT, ESTABLISH IT, GET IT STARTED.

SO THEN SOMEBODY COMES INTO PETALUMA AND HAS A BETTER, LIKE RIGHT OFF THE BAT, THERE'S A BETTER SENSE OF WHAT PETALUMA IS AND THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA AND WHAT WE'RE GOING FOR AND WHAT IT COULD BE.

UM, SO THE, SO WE ACTUALLY HAD THAT DISCUSSION, AND THAT'S A GOOD THING TO BE THINKING ABOUT I THINK WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE LAND USE FRAMEWORK IS WHAT ARE THOSE THINGS, THOSE, THOSE OTHER THINGS WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT, LOOKING FOR THE RESOURCES, LOOKING FOR THE TOOLS.

MY, MY SOURCE OF, UH, INSPIRATION COMES FROM A GUY NAMED KEVIN LYNCH WHO WROTE, UH, DESIGN WITHIN DESIGN WITHIN VIEW.

IT'S, IT IS, HE COULD ANALYZE CITIES BASED ON THE IMAGES THAT YOU SAW FROM THE ROAD AND FROM, AND THAT'S HOW YOU FORM YOUR IMAGE OF WHEREVER YOU'RE TRAVELING FROM THE ROAD MOSTLY.

AND HE, I MEAN, BOSTON'S NEW YORK, HE COULD DESCRIBE THAT CITY BASED ON THE EDGES YOU SEE OR DON'T SEE.

THAT'S WHAT, SO ALL I'M TRYING TO SAY IS HOW DO WE COMPOSE PETALUMA INTO WHAT SCENE IS ATTRACTIVE AND WHAT ISN'T SEEN? WE DON'T NEED TO KNOW ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, BUT JUST TRYING TO GET A PRIORITY OF STRUCTURE OF HIGH IMAGE THAT SAYS WE'VE RETAINED A SENSE OF PLACE, WE'VE RETAINED A BEAUTIFUL CITY AND THIS WILL CARRY DEVELOPMENT, WHATEVER IT IS NEXT DOOR.

BUT THE DEVELOPMENT ISN'T THE END ALL.

IT'S THE, IT'S THE PUBLIC CORRIDOR THAT WE'VE CREATED AND, AND THEN MADE DEVELOPMENT RESPECT IN TERMS OF HOW IT SITS UP TO.

AND I THINK A LOT OF THAT IS A SHIFT IN THE WAY THE CITY APPROACHES DEVELOPMENT TOO, BECAUSE FOR YEARS AND YEARS IT WAS, THERE WAS NO FUNDING FOR THAT.

AND THE WAY WE GOT THE THINGS WE GOT IN TERMS OF LIKE STREET FRONTAGE IMPROVEMENTS, LIKE YOU SAID, WAS INCREMENTALLY AS A PARCELS DEVELOPED, THEY PUT THEIR PIECE IN, UM, AND THEN THE NEXT ONE, AND SOMETIMES THAT NEXT ONE IS FOUR DOWN.

SO THEN YOU HAVE ONE PARCEL THAT DOES THE, YOU KNOW, 15 FOOT SIDEWALK AND THE STREET TREES AND THEN YOU'VE GOT FOUR PARCELS THAT DON'T, AND THEN YOU HAVE ONE THAT DOES.

AND IT, LIKE YOU SAID, HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO GET THE CONTINUITY AND THE OVERALL VISION AND THE CHARACTER OF THE WHOLE CORRIDOR? ANY OF THE GREAT CITIES WITH GREAT IMAGES HAVE NOT DONE IT THAT WAY.

YOU HAVE TO DO THE PUBLIC CORRIDOR.

THAT'S WHAT YOU CONTROL AS A PUBLIC AGENCY.

YOU DON'T CONTROL LAND USE, YOU KNOW, ACROSS THE, SO DESIGN AND CONTROL WHAT YOU, WHAT YOU DO CONTROL AND THEN DICTATE HOW THEY ADDRESS IT, BUT DON'T EXPECT PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT TO DO YOUR PUBLIC IMAGE.

YEAH.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? A COUPLE GO DARREN, GO AHEAD.

UM, YEAH, A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

I GUESS THE FIRST ONE IS JUST ABOUT FLEX, ACTUALLY, IT'S KIND OF A TWO-PARTER ABOUT THE AG SUPPORT INDUSTRY AREA.

UH, FIRST OF ALL, THE ONE THAT CAUGHT MY EYE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE JUST ADDED HISTORIC DURING THIS PROCESS, IT WAS HIGHLIGHTED RED INDICATING WE ADDED THAT OR APPENDED THAT TO THE FRONT HISTORIC AGRICULTURAL SUPPORT INDUSTRY.

JUST WONDERED IF THAT FADED ANYTHING DIFFERENT OR KIND OF THE DRIVER TO RENAME THAT AREA PRIMARILY THOSE TWO SILOS.

AND THEN JUST TALKING ABOUT THE FLEX DESIGNATION THAT IT SOUNDS LIKE WAS, UM, ADDED FOR THOSE AREAS AND JUST WONDERED SOME OF THE LOGIC BEHIND THAT.

IT, FOR ME, LOOKING AT IT, I'M THINKING, WHY WOULDN'T EVERYBODY WANT THIS DESIGNATION? RIGHT? IT'S A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY.

SO, UM, IF YOU CAN JUST TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT.

AND OBVIOUSLY COUNCIL HAD A MEETING ABOUT IT AND THERE WAS LIKE A STRONG DIRECTIVE THERE.

SO I JUST WANNA PUT THAT IN CONTEXT.

MY MEMORY'S A LITTLE FUZZY ON THE HISTORIC AG SUPPORT DISTRICT CHANGE.

UM, I, I THINK IT, IF MEMORY SERVES IT, IT CAME FROM JUST AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT IT'S ON TWO PARCELS, BOTH OF WHICH ARE HISTORIC AG INDUSTRY.

UM, I, I DON'T KNOW , YEAH, SORRY, WE'RE AT A LOT LOSS.

UM, AND THEN, BUT YOU'LL NOTICE, AND I FORGET WHICH POLICY IT IS SPECIFICALLY, BUT THEN I, SORRY, THERE IS A POLICY WHERE WE SPEAK SPECIFICALLY TO THIS AND SUGGEST THAT THE CITY BE OPEN TO CHANGING THE DESIGNATION FOR PROPOSALS THAT ARE, THAT RETAIN THE HISTORIC NATURE, BUT PROVIDE OPPORTUNITY FOR GREATER DIVERSIFICATION

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OF USE, UM, TO MAINTAIN ITS VIBRANCY AND FOR THEM, THOSE SITES TO CONTINUE TO BE, YOU KNOW, REALLY SERVE THE, THE COMMUNITY'S GOALS, WHETHER IT'S BY INTEGRATING HOUSING OR ALLOWING FOR NEW TYPES OF INDUSTRY, WHETHER IT'S AG SPECIFIC OR NOT.

UM, THEY, THERE'S JUST PRETTY LARGE FOOTPRINTS IN PRETTY CENTRAL LOCATIONS.

AND SO JUST KIND OF TRYING TO EXPRESS FLEXIBILITY DEPENDING ON WHAT'S PROPOSED.

AS YOU MAY RECALL, WE DEBATED A LOT WHETHER TO PROACTIVELY MAKE CHANGES IN THOSE AREAS OR TO LEAVE IT FOR, UH, LANDOWNERS, DEVELOPERS TO INITIATE.

AND SO I THINK IN THE FRAMEWORK WE'VE, WE'RE KIND OF AT A MIDDLE GROUND WHERE WE'RE NOT SUGGESTING A CHANGE, BUT EXPRESSING AN INTEREST IN CONSIDERING CREATIVE PROPOSALS.

AND I'M WONDERING, I'M A LITTLE FUZZY ON, UH, THE ADDITION OF HISTORIC TO THAT DESIGNATION.

I'M WONDERING IF IT'S BECAUSE, AND AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF THE, IT ADDS TO THE CHARACTER, IT ADDS, IT IS PETALUMA WHEN YOU LOOK UP AND SEE, SEE THAT.

SO EVEN IF THE USE CHANGED, DO WE WANNA THINK ABOUT THE IMPACT OF THE BUILT STRUCTURE AND WHAT IT MEANS AND WHAT IT CONTRIBUTES TO THE CHARACTER OF PETALUMA? OKAY.

UH, AND I KNOW WE HAVE ANOTHER MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 10TH, AND I'VE GOT A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS, BUT JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE KIND OF PUTTING IT BACK ON THE TABLE, CHANGING LAND USE, BUT WE INVENTED A NEW ONE, SO WE'RE NOT GOING WITH ONE OF THE OTHER DESIGNATIONS.

UM, SO I, I SEE, I SEE THAT.

BUT THAT THAT'LL DEFINITELY I THINK BE A DISCUSSION POINT.

THE OTHER, IF I ACTUALLY, COULD I RESPOND TO YOUR COMPLIMENTARY QUESTION ABOUT FLEX? YES.

YEAH.

IT WAS ADDED SPECIFICALLY WITH THOSE PARCELS IN MIND.

IT ORIGINALLY WAS A MAKER FLEX DESIGNATION AND THE REALLY, THE ONLY DISTINCTION IS THE, UM, IS WHETHER RESIDENTIAL'S PERMITTED OR NOT.

SO, UM, OKAY.

AND I GUESS JUST THINKING THAT THOSE PARCELS NEEDED MORE FLEXIBILITY THAN MAKER DESIGNATION POTENTIALLY, OR I GUESS MAKER IS NOT RESIDENTIAL.

CORRECT.

SO FLEX KEEPS US IN THE MIXED USE WITH THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT.

GOT IT.

EXEMPTING HEAVY INDUSTRIAL.

GOT IT.

OKAY.

UH, AND THEN THE OTHER WAS A BROADER QUESTION.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT STATE DENSITY BONUS THROUGH A LOT OF OUR DISCUSSION.

SO DID THAT ENTER THE CONVERSATION WHEN WE THINK ABOUT HEIGHTS, UM, I'M ASSUMING THAT WAS CONSIDERED BY GPAC AND HOW THAT WOULD PLAY WITH DENSITY, BONUS LAWS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

.

SO I MEAN, WE DIDN'T SPECIFICALLY GET INTO, YOU KNOW, THE GPAC IS LOOKING AT THIS SIMULTANEOUSLY WITH, WITH YOU, WITH YOU GUYS.

UM, SO IT WENT OUT THE SAME DAY.

YOU, YOU WERE ALERTED THAT IT WAS OUT, IT THEY WERE, AND THEY'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT IT.

WE HAD A SIMILAR INTRODUCTION TO THEM.

UM, SO WE DIDN'T SPECIFICALLY TALK ABOUT DENSITY BONUS, BUT DENSITY BONUS, YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY IF YOU MEET THE CRITERIA TO WHO APPLY FOR AND BE CONSISTENT WITH THE CRITERIA FOR A DENSITY BONUS, IT CAN INCREASE YOUR HEIGHT.

LIKE THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE CONCESSIONS YOU COULD ASK FOR.

YOU HAVE TO SHOW THAT IT, YOU KNOW, SUPPORTS WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO BY PROVIDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

BUT, UM, BUT THAT IS IN THERE, UM, THAT YOU COULD GO, YOU COULD GO HIGHER.

OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND THEN THE OTHER ONE, SO I JUST TALKED ABOUT FLEX, THE MAKER SPACE, UM, JUST, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER YOU CAN SHORTLY DESCRIBE, UH, THE MAKER MICRO BUSINESS AREA IS A DE INTENSIFICATION BECAUSE WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE CHART WITH THE FAR AND HEIGHT, IT WOULD SEEM TO, I MEAN, IT'S MORE FAR THAN INDUSTRIAL, MORE SIZE, AND I THINK MAKER MICRO BUSINESS, I THINK SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

SO CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN KIND OF WHAT YOU ENVISIONED AT THAT USE WOULD BE? UM, AND I KNOW THE PICTURE AGAIN THAT WAS USED WAS THE, THIS BIG GRAY BUILDING, AND I JUST WANNA, I'M THINKING DE INTENSIFICATION, WHAT, WHAT YOU ENVISAGED THAT KIND OF OPERATION OR DEVELOPMENT COULD LOOK LIKE FOR THE MAKER MICRO BUSINESS CAN, WHICH YOU, WHICH AREA YOU SUGGESTING IT'S BEING USED TO DEINTENSIFY.

UH, SO THAT'S BEING SUGGESTED ON THE LAKEVILLE AREA.

UM, OH YEAH.

MIXED USE.

YES.

THAT, THAT IS VERY INTENTIONAL.

YEAH.

UM, THE CONCERN IS THAT DEPENDING ON THE FLOOD ADAPTATION MASTER PLAN, THAT IT, THE CITY MAY FIND IT, UM, FE FINANCIALLY INFEASIBLE TO PROTECT

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THAT STRETCH, UM, GIVEN ITS PROJECTED, GIVEN THE PROJECTED IMPACTS OF STORM SURGE, UM, KING TIDE, ET CETERA.

AND AS A RESULT, IT MAY BE WISE TO SIMPLY BASICALLY JUST, JUST SWITCH IT TO MAKER SO THAT RESIDENTIAL IS NOT PERMITTED, BUT NOT ELIMINATE, BUT STILL RETAIN IT AS, YOU KNOW, PRODUCTIVE LAND, BUT KEEP PEOPLE OUT OF HARM'S WAY.

GIVEN PROJECTIONS FOR, UM, FUTURE HAZARD IMPACTS.

OBVIOUSLY WOULD WANNA ALSO BE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT THE NATURE OF FUTURE POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND, AND THAT THAT'S ALL IN THE FLOOD RESILIENCE FRAMEWORK AND SPEAKS TO HOW DEVELOPMENT WOULD HAVE TO BE, YOU KNOW, HAVE TO FOLLOW RESILIENCE DESIGN STANDARDS.

RIGHT.

AND SO, SO WE'RE, AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO COMPLIMENT LAND USE STRATEGY WITH THE MORE HAND, LIKE MORE DEVELOPMENT SPECIFIC STRATEGIES INCLUDED IN THE FLOOD RESILIENCE FRAMEWORK.

SO, AND UH, YOU HIT RIGHT ON THE POINT, I WAS JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IT AS A DE INTENSIFICATION WHEN IT SEEMED LIKE IT WAS ALERT, BUT REMOVING RESIDENTIAL IS KIND OF THE KEY PART OF THAT EQUATION TO SEE IT AS A DE INTENSIFYING USE.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UM, ANOTHER QUICK QUESTION ABOUT UGB.

UH, SO THIS IS ON PAGE 66 OF THE PG PDF AND THIS IS GOAL LU ONE URBAN GROWTH BOUNDARY.

JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ITEMS THERE, ONE DASH P DASH 29 ONWARD, I ASSUME THAT TRACKS WITH OUR WORKSHOP THAT WE HAD ON MAY 18TH, 2024 IN TERMS OF ADJUSTED EXCEPTIONS, JUST 'CAUSE I HAD A LITTLE BIT OF THAT FRESH IN MY MIND WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT REFINING UGB IN THE WORKSHOP THAT PLANNING COMMISSION HAD, I WANTED TO SEE IF THIS INCORPORATED THAT.

YES, IT DOES NOT.

SO ONE P 29, I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ANY CHANGE TO ONE P 29.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE.

YEAH, I, THAT WAS JUST A CLARIFYING, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE ALL THAT'S IN THERE.

SO I DON'T NEED TO COMPARE WORK.

NO, WHAT'S IN HERE IS EXACTLY WHAT THE ADOPTED BALLOT LANGUAGE IS.

EXCELLENT, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND THEN ON PAGE 70, POLICY LU 1.1, UH, JUST TALKS ABOUT ANNEXING AREAS OUTSIDE CITY LIMITS AND WITHIN THE UGB, AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THIS, OR TAKE YOUR TEMPERATURE IF YOU THOUGHT THAT MIGHT CONFLICT WITH THE SUBSEQUENT GOAL LU TWO, ABOUT PRESERVING OPEN SPACE WHERE WE'RE KIND OF ADVOCATING FOR, LOOK, LET'S ANNEX EVERYTHING BETWEEN THE CITY BOUNDARY AND THE URBAN GROWTH BOUNDARY.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE'RE KINDA SAYING, LET'S MAINTAIN OUR BUFFERS AND LET'S, DO YOU THINK THAT'S NOT A CONFLICT AND I'M READING TOO MUCH INTO IT? IS IT KIND OF A, ARE WE GETTING THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS WITH THAT APPROACH? I JUST READ IT AND IT JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE SO CLOSE TOGETHER, I THOUGHT, ARE WE KIND OF CONTRAINDICATING OURSELVES A LITTLE BIT? THIS IS A REVISION, AN UPDATE TO A POLICY IN THE EXISTING GENERAL PLAN.

AND I APOLOGIZE, I DON'T REMEMBER WHICH ONE.

UM, THE INTENT HERE WITH THE REVISIONS IS JUST TO BE CRYSTAL CLEAR 'CAUSE I UNDERSTAND, AND, AND, UM, CITY STAFF CAN SPEAK TO THIS PROBABLY MORE, UH, WITH, WITH BETTER MORE, UH, PRECISE EXAMPLES.

BUT THERE'S BEEN, UH, EXAMPLES IN THE PAST WHERE THERE'S BEEN PROPOSED ANNEXATION, UM, BUT IT WASN'T DONE BECAUSE THE GP WASN'T SPECIFIC AND EXPLICIT ENOUGH ABOUT THE INTENT TO ANNEX LANDS THAT ARE, AS IT STATES HERE WITHIN THE UGB WITH DESIGNATIONS, UM, USES CONSISTENT WITH GP DESIGNATIONS AND WHERE SAFE ACCESS CAN BE INSURED AND THERE'S APPROPRIATE SUPPORTING INFRASTRUCTURE AND UTILITIES.

UM, JUST WANNA BE, THE INTENT HERE IS JUST BE SUPER CLEAR.

IT'S LIKE THE INTENT IS TO ANNEX THESE AREAS.

, AND I KNOW THIS IS, AND SOME, SOME OF THIS, UM, WE WANT TO MAINTAIN OUR STRONG URBAN GROWTH BOUNDARY.

LIKE THAT IS LIKE AN UN NOBODY, EVERYBODY'S BEHIND THAT IN THE COMMUNITY OR IT, IT APPEARS, UM, WE DIDN'T RUN INTO ANYBODY THAT WAS FIGHTING AGAINST HAVING AN URBAN GROWTH BOUNDARY.

SO THAT IS A VERY IMPORTANT TO PETALUMA.

SO THE OTHER THING IS, IS DESIGNATE THE LANDS THAT ARE OUTSIDE CITY LIMITS, BUT WITHIN OUR UGB.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO VISION THOSE, RIGHT? WE'RE SAYING THIS IS GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER DESIGNATION THEY ARE.

AND SO THEN TO BE CLEAR THAT IF YOU COME IN WITH A PROJECT THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THAT DESIGNATION, THAT YOU'VE GOT ALL THE ACCESS AND THE SAFETY AND THE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE MEETING ALL OF OUR REQUIREMENTS THAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING THAT OVER THE LIFE

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OF THE GENERAL PLAN THAT WILL BE ANNEXING SOME OF THOSE AREAS.

UM, WE ALSO HAVE IN A NUMBER OF THE AREAS, WE HAVE WHAT'S CALLED AN URBAN SEPARATOR, WHICH IS, I THINK IT'S 300 FEET TYPICALLY.

AND SO ALONG THE UGB.

SO WHEN YOU DO HAVE THOSE AREAS, EVEN THOUGH YOU MIGHT HAVE RESIDENTIAL OR YOU MIGHT HAVE WHATEVER, YOU'RE ALSO THAT KIND OF PROTECTING THAT BUFFERING AND THAT I THINK THE CURRENT GP HAS LANGUAGE ABOUT BUFFERING OR FEATHERING FOR, UH, AS YOU COME CLOSER TO THE UGB.

SO SOME OF THAT, AND I THINK THERE IS POLICIES IN HERE TOO THAT WE EVEN TALK ABOUT.

AND IF THERE'S EVER ANY UGB EXPANSIONS, MAKING SURE THAT THAT URBAN SEPARATOR DESIGNATION KIND OF GOES WITH IT TO MAKE SURE WE CONTINUE THAT PHILOSOPHY AND THAT DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.

NOW, THANK YOU BOTH FOR THE EXPLANATIONS.

LIKE I SAID, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE IN READING THOSE, WE WEREN'T CROSSING OUR WIRES THERE BECAUSE IT IS PRETTY CLEAR COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE, UH, ON THAT, ON THAT MATTER.

UM, AND THEN QUESTIONS ON 15 MINUTE TOWN CENTERS.

I REMEMBER GOING TO GPAC, THERE WAS SOME DEBATE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF HOW YOU GET THIS RIGHT.

UM, AND I APPRECIATE KIND OF WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE AS AN EXERCISE.

DO YOU ENVISION, AND JUST THINKING OF THIS IN CONTEXT OF MENTIONS OF OTHER SPECIFIC PLANS, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE SOME EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS.

DO YOU ENVISION THIS BECOMING A NEW WAY FOR US TO CONCEPTUALIZE, LIKE, DO YOU THINK THIS WILL INFILTRATE OUR PLANNING THINKING THAT THESE ARE AREAS IN TOWN, COULD IT BE SPECIFIC PLANS IN THE FUTURE, OR IS THIS KIND OF A MIDDLE GROUND TO NOT OVER PLAN AND TRY OUT AN IDEA? I MEAN, WHERE, WHERE DO THOSE SIT AT THIS POINT? SO I DO THINK WE WANT TO BE CAUTIOUS NOT TO REQUIRE A PLAN FOR EVERYTHING, BECAUSE THEN WE WILL SPEND A LOT OF TIME WRITING PLANS.

UM, BUT, SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE HEARD ALSO IS THINKING ABOUT SOME OF THESE COMMUNITY NODES, THESE 15 MINUTE NODES TO ALLOW THEM ALSO TO KIND OF SOME LEVEL OF ORGANIC DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY DON'T NEED SO PLANNED THAT THEY'RE ALL A COOKIE CUTTER OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE SAY THEY HAVE TO BE.

UM, SO I THINK WE'RE, IT, IT'S A BALANCE THERE.

THERE MIGHT BE SOME LIKE, UM, THE PETALUMA NORTH STATION THAT DEFINITELY NEEDS A SPECIFIC PLAN, UH, THE FAIRGROUNDS THAT NEEDS A MASTER PLAN.

LIKE THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE IDENTIFIED AS NEEDING, UM, ADDITIONAL PLANNING FOR, BUT THEN OTHER ONES, MAYBE WE DON'T NEED A SPECIFIC PLAN, BUT WE DO NEED TO MAKE SURE CERTAIN THINGS ARE IN PLACE.

WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THE RIGHT LAND USE DESIGNATION IS IN PLACE.

WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THE COMPLIMENTARY ZONING IS IN PLACE.

WE NEED TO MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ANOTHER ONE TO THINK ABOUT WHAT MIGHT BE MISSING FROM THE POLICIES.

SO THE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS, YES, BUT WE ALSO NEED TO SUPPLEMENT IT WITH POLICIES TO GET US WHERE WE WANNA GO.

SO ANOTHER THING TO BE THINKING ABOUT, ONE IS THIS, THE RIGHT LAND USE THE DENSITY INTENSITY, UM, DOES IT ALLOW THE KIND OF USES THAT WE WANT AT THIS SPECIFIC NODE? UM, AND TWO, YOU KNOW, DO WE HAVE THE POLICIES TO SUPPORT IT TO MAKE IT ATTRACTIVE FOR THOSE KIND OF THINGS? AND AS PART OF OUR ENGAGEMENT AROUND THE LAND USE FRAMEWORK, WE ARE GONNA BE POPPING UP IN AREAS TO TALK SPECIFIC ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LEGHORN, YOU KNOW, AND WHAT, WHAT DO YOU, WHAT DO YOU WANT HERE? WHAT DO WE NEED HERE? WHAT DO YOU LIVE HERE? YOU WORK HERE, YOU, YOU KNOW, WALK BY HERE EVERY DAY.

SO REALLY TRYING TO GET SOME OF THAT SENSE FOR THE AREA SPECIFIC ALSO.

AND JUST THINKING THEN, DO YOU ENVISION THESE AREAS KIND OF FLOWING THROUGH THE IEO THE MUNI CODE UPDATES, JUST AS THINKING OF THE 15 MINUTE CITY DELINEATIONS AS ANOTHER PLANNING LAYER? YOU DON'T THINK IT NECESSARILY ADDS A LOT MORE WORK OR COMPLICATES, BUT WE CAN BUILD POLICY AROUND IT AND DOES IT MAP PRETTY WELL TO SOME OF OUR EXISTING PLANNING AREAS? JUST TRYING TO THINK OF HOW WHEN WE UPDATE OUR DOCUMENTS AND PLANNED AROUND IT, HOW DO WE KINDA GET TO SOME OF THOSE GOALS AND THAT IT'S NOT ADDING SOME LAYER THAT'S KIND OF THROWING OFF WHAT WE'VE GOT? NO, I DON'T THINK IT'S ADDING, IT'S NOT LIKE THERE'S GONNA BE A, I DON'T THINK WE'VE THOUGHT OF IT AS NECESSARILY A ZONING CODE OVERLAY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT IT'S LIKE MAKING SURE, AND AGAIN, WE HAVE A LITTLE TIME TO THINK ABOUT EXACTLY HOW WE'LL DO IT, BUT EVEN IF IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THE RIGHT LAND USE DESIGNATION AND SO THEN YOU HAVE THE RIGHT ZONING REGULATIONS SO THAT IF IT'S AN AREA WE REALLY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, COTTAGE HOUSING WOULD BE PERFECT IN THIS AREA TO CREATE ADDITIONAL THINGS.

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WELL WE BETTER MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE LAND USE DESIGNATION AND THE ZONING THAT ALLOWS COTTAGE HOUSING OR THOSE, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.

IT'S JUST MAKING SURE WE HAVE IT IN PLACE SO WE ATTRACT THE KIND OF CHANGES WE WANT IN THESE CENTERS.

COUPLE QUICK A ADDITIONS.

UM, ONE IS THOUGH WE DON'T IDENTIFY THESE AREAS AS CANDIDATES FOR SPECIFIC PLANS.

SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR SOME OF THE TOWN AND MAYBE SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS MIGHT BE GOOD CANDIDATES FOR MASTER PLANNING.

UM, PROBABLY LED BY THE OWNER DEVELOPER, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S A CASE WHERE YOU'RE SIGNIFICANTLY RETHINKING A RATHER LARGE SHOPPING CENTER.

UM, THE OTHER THOUGHT IS WE ARE IN THE FRAMEWORK TRYING TO GET THE LAND USE DESIGNATION RIGHT FOR EACH OF THESE.

AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO CAREFULLY CONSIDER IS LIKE, ARE IS WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED THE RIGHT FIT FOR THE VISION FOR THAT PARTICULAR PLACE.

AND IT'S AN INTERESTING, IT'S KIND OF A LIGHT TOUCH TO TRY TO INCENTIVIZE THESE ORGANIC GATHERING SPACES.

SO THANK YOU FOR WRAPPING MY HEAD AROUND IT A LITTLE BIT.

I'VE OBVIOUSLY HAD QUESTIONS THROUGH THE PROCESS, SO I THINK, I THINK I'M STARTING TO GET IT AND I SEE IT COMING INTO FORM.

UM, AND THE NEXT ONE, I GUESS IT'S JUST A BROAD KIND OF COMMENT AND QUESTION JUST TO NOT GET IN THE WEEDS ON EVERY MENTION, BUT CHAPTER THREE, COMMUNITY DESIGN AND CHARACTER I THINK IS A REALLY IMPORTANT PART OF THIS PLAN.

I APPRECIATED ROGER'S POINTS ABOUT DESIGN.

I THINK, I THINK THERE'S A CONVERSATION ABOUT BROADER URBAN DESIGN, WHICH ENTAILS A MUCH BIGGER INVESTMENT AND A SEQUENTIALLY KIND OF PUBLIC INVESTMENT AND THEN DEVELOPERS COME IN.

BUT I THINK PART ONE BIG THEME THAT I SAW RUNNING THROUGH THESE, UH, CHAPTER THREE AND IT'S LIKE 10 THROUGH 13, UM, WAS MENTION OF SPECIFIC PLANS, DESIGN STANDARDS, YOU KNOW, MAKING CORRIDOR PLANS.

HOW DO WE MAKE SURE OR HOW DO WE GET THOSE FIRST BEFORE INTENSIFYING CERTAIN AREAS JUST SO THAT THE GREAT PLANS THAT WE CREATE ARE ACTUALLY HAVE TO BE FOLLOWED.

UM, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? I MEAN, IS IT, CAN WE SAY, LOOK, WE CAN'T CHANGE THIS ZONING.

MAYBE WE'LL LAY THE GROUNDWORK FOR THE GRANT GENERAL PLAN LAND USE, BUT YOU CAN'T DO THAT ZONING UNTIL WE HAVE THE PLAN .

I MEAN, IS THERE ANYTHING LIKE THAT? IS THERE ANY MECHANISM TO KIND OF ORDER OF OPERATIONS, GET THESE WHAT I THINK OF AS GUARDRAILS, RIGHT? I THINK THERE WE'LL HAVE A WHOLE COMMUNITY DISCUSSION ABOUT DENSITY AND HEIGHT AND ALL OF THAT, BUT WITHOUT THE CONTEXT OF WHAT ARE OUR STANDARDS, OUR GUARDRAILS, UM, TO ENSURE THAT WHATEVER WE GET, WHATEVER THE SIZE IS SOMETHING WE LIKE, HOW DO WE, IS THERE ANY TRICKS WE CAN USE ORDER OF OPERATIONS WISE TO DO THAT FIRST? BECAUSE I KNOW THOSE ARE BIG LIFTS.

I MEAN, I THINK PRIORITIZING IS, IS A GOOD ONE.

YOU'RE RIGHT, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO DO A CORRIDOR PLAN FOR EVERY CORRIDOR AT THE EXACT SAME TIME.

UM, BUT SO PART OF IT IS PRIORITIZING, LIKE DO WE THINK THERE ARE CERTAIN CORRIDOR PLANS THAT SHOULD BE FIRST OUT OF THE GATE, UM, FOR INSTANCE, AND THEN IT'S THAT THAT, THAT KIND OF CHICKEN AND THE EGG THING THAT I FEEL LIKE ROGER AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF YOU DO THE CORRIDOR IMPROVEMENT, YOU ATTRACT THE, THE MARKET, RIGHT? UH, YOU DON'T DO IT, YOU'RE NOT ATTRACTING THE MARKET, WHICH WE SEE, YOU KNOW, IN SOME AREAS WHERE WE'RE JUST NOT SEEING THE REDEVELOPMENT OR THE, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT, UM, THAT WE MIGHT WANT.

SO, UH, I, I DON'T THINK THAT FULLY ANSWERS IT.

AND THEN IT'S A, YOU KNOW, PRIORITIZATION IN TERMS OF THE CITY WHEN WHAT, WHAT, WHAT ARE WE DOING THIS YEAR? WHAT'S OUR WORK PLAN? UH, WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE THE KEY, THE KEY AREAS? THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS.

NO, AND I KNOW THAT'S A HARD QUESTION.

LIKE I SAID, I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS A TRICK TO MAKE SURE, YES, THOSE WILL DEFINITIVELY HAPPEN FIRST.

UH, BUT JUST THINKING ABOUT HOW WE CAN BUILD THAT IN THERE.

YEAH.

REFER TO THE GOVERNANCE AND IMPLEMENTATION, UH, POLICY FRAMEWORK GOVERNANCE AND IMPLEMENTATION.

OKAY, MAYBE WE CAN IT, IT LAYS OUT A, A PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THE CITY ON AN ANNUAL BASIS IS THINKING ABOUT PRIORITIZATION RELATIVE TO THE GENERAL PLAN.

AND SO THAT, THAT IS AN OPTION ACTUALLY, AND I, I THINK WE SHOULD AND BEEN ON TRACK TO INCLUDE IN THE PLAN ITSELF IS A, A CLEAR SET OF PRIORITIES.

'CAUSE THERE'S GONNA BE SO MUCH, THERE'S SO MUCH IN ALL THIS ALREADY, PLUS YOU'VE GOT THE CAP, YOU KNOW, AND SO THERE'S GONNA HAVE TO BE SOME IMPORTANT PRIORITIZATION DONE.

AND SO I THINK, I THINK THE MORE THE GP CAN BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT ON APPROPRIATE LEVEL, PROBABLY THE BETTER.

AND I THINK WE CAN, THE MORE WE CAN START WITH THE BROADEST POSSIBLE STANDARDS, AGAIN, THINKING OF THESE AS LIKE PROTECTIONS AGAINST DEVELOPMENT.

WE DON'T WANT OUR BETTER DESIGN AND THEN WORK OUR WAY TO THE MORE SPECIFIC PLANS.

BUT JUST BECAUSE ONCE YOU CHANGE LAND USE AND ZONING, IT GETS MUCH MORE ATTRACTIVE OBVIOUSLY TO DEVELOP.

SO AS MUCH AS WE CAN GET SOME DESIGN THINGS IN PLACE,

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I THINK OF THEM AS KIND OF DEVELOPMENT SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE.

THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

UM, AND THEN I THINK THAT COVERS MOST OF MY QUESTIONS.

THE ONE, THE ONE QUESTION I HAD WAS IN CHAPTER FOUR, SUBAR POLICIES.

SO WE TALK ABOUT DOWNTOWN AND UH, I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE REMOVED HISTORIC FROM THIS PIECE AND JUST TO TRY TO SET THE TABLE ON THIS A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN INSPIRED BY SOME RECENT CONVERSATIONS AND ACTUALLY READING THIS DOCUMENT, THINKING OF THE WASHINGTON CORRIDOR, THINKING OF ACROSS THE RIVER THINKING OF OUR DOWNTOWN AS MORE THAN JUST THAT ONE CORRIDOR IN PETALUMA BOULEVARD, RIGHT? BECAUSE I THINK ULTIMATELY AS THIS DOCUMENT, I THINK IT ENVISAGES AS WELL THE DOWNTOWN AREA, THE ACTIVATED AREA IS GONNA EXTEND AND NOT JUST BE THAT AREA.

SO JUST WONDERING, WHEN WE, FOR THIS AREA IN PARTICULAR, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE STRETCH OF PETALUMA BOULEVARD IN KENTUCKY THAT I THINK OF AS KIND OF HISTORIC DOWNTOWN? IS IT WORTH INSERTING THAT IN THERE JUST SO THE PUBLIC AT A GLANCE AND KNOWS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? AND SO MUCH OF THE PLANS OR THE GOALS AND POLICIES I SEE LISTED HERE MENTION HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND MAKING PLAQUES AND HISTORIC, I UNDERSTAND THE DESIRE TO KIND OF LEAVE THAT MONIKER TO THE SIDE SO PEOPLE DON'T GET THEIR GUARD UP.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

WE WANT TO SIGNAL A CLEAR 'CAUSE I THINK IT'S IN THERE A CLEAR DEDICATION TO ENHANCING ALL THOSE ASPECTS.

AND THEN I THINK DOWNTOWN AS A WORD.

AND WE, WHEN WE WERE TALKING BEFORE YOU WERE DOING YOUR PRESENTATION, USE THE WORD DOWNTOWN FOR AN AREA THAT WASN'T KIND OF RIGHT IN THAT CORE AREA.

UM, OR MAYBE THERE, MAYBE THERE'S A BETTER TERM, BUT JUST IDENTIFYING THAT.

AND I WAS THINKING ABOUT IT BECAUSE AS I WAS READING THIS, I WAS DRIVING DOWN PETLAND BOULEVARD NORTH AND THERE'S A SIGN OUTSIDE THE OUTLETS THAT SAYS, HISTORIC DOWNTOWN THIS WAY.

AND I'M LIKE, THAT IS KIND OF HOW I THINK ABOUT IT.

SO THE DISCUSSION AROUND THAT WAS THAT, CAN YOU JUST TALK ABOUT THAT LOGIC A LITTLE BIT? DO YOU LIKE WHERE YOU'VE LANDED? DO YOU THINK IT'S WORTH INCLUDING OR, UH, MAY, MAYBE GPAC HAD SOME INPUT ON THIS AS WELL.

I'LL JUST ADD AND THEN I'LL HAND IT TO RON.

UM, I BELIEVE THESE SUB AREAS ARE GRAPHICALLY DEFINED IN THE EXISTING GENERAL PLAN.

AND SO WE WERE CARRYING THOSE FORWARD.

WHAT WE FAILED TO DO IS PUT THE MAP IN.

SO THAT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT.

AND MAYBE WE SHOULD POST THE MAP ON THE WEBSITE AS A, YOU KNOW, SO WE WEREN'T, WE WEREN'T NECESSARILY, WE DIDN'T HAVE AN IN DEPTH DISCUSSION OF CHANGING THE BOUNDARIES OF THE SUB AREA.

WE REALLY WERE TAKING THE SUB AREAS THAT HAD BEEN PREVIOUSLY, THAT HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN DESIGNATED AND CONTINUING WITH THOSE.

AND THERE IS A MAP THAT SHOWS THE BOUNDARIES OF THESE THAT EXCELLENT POINT.

SO THE AREA I HAVE IN MY HEAD IS NOT NECESSARILY MAPPED TO EXACTLY THE AREA THIS IS TALKING ABOUT, JUST IN TERMS OF THIS IS NOT EXCLUSIVELY SOME HISTORIC COURT OR PER SE.

YEAH, IT MIGHT NOT BE.

AND, AND JUST QUICKLY TO THE USE OF HISTORIC, MOSTLY WE ARE TRYING TO DISTINGUISH AND MINIMIZE CONFUSION BETWEEN THE DESIGNATED HISTORIC DISTRICTS AND WHAT OTHERWISE PEOPLE THINK OF AS THE DOWNTOWN.

IT'S, YEAH, I THINK OF IT, YOU KNOW, I THINK OF THE DOWNTOWN AS INC INCLUSIVE OF AND MORE, BUT MORE THAN THE HISTORIC DISTRICTS SPECIFICALLY.

SO WHEN WE WERE TRYING TO MINIMIZE CONFUSION BETWEEN THE TWO WAS, WAS THE THRUST OF THE INTENT.

SO THAT MAKES SENSE.

AND THANK YOU FOR TEASING THAT APART.

UM, THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU NICOLA.

YOU HAD SOME THANK YOU.

YES, I DO.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK TO WHAT ROGER WAS TALKING ABOUT THE CORRIDORS, UM, SPECIFICALLY THE WASHINGTON STREET CORRIDOR.

BUT A LOT OF IT APPLIES TO THE OTHER CORRIDORS.

UM, WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO LOOK AT THAT AND MAKE SOME REAL DEFINITIVE DIFFERENCES.

UM, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THINGS LIKE SUPER BLOCKS AND ROUNDABOUTS AND BETTER PAVING AND GETTING SOME OF THOSE CARS OFF OF THAT MAIN CORRIDOR.

UM, BECAUSE IT'S USED FOR KIDS GOING TO SCHOOL, IT'S USED FOR, UM, PEDESTRIANS AND ISTS ATTEMPTING TO GO ACROSS THEM.

IT LEADS TO MANY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND SO WHEN YOU'RE COMING DOWN THAT STREET THAT YOU'RE GETTING AN IMPRESSION OF WHAT PETALUMA IS BEFORE YOU TURN INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD AND WHAT YOU'RE FINDING IS YOU'RE SEEING THAT IT'S UNINVITING, IT'S UNHEALTHY LOOKING AND IT'S HARMFUL TO YOUR PERCEPTION OF WHAT THE TOWN IS.

AND SO WE NEED TO PLAN ON THE CITY MAKING THAT A REAL STRONG PRIORITY OF HOW DO WE GET THAT PERCEPTION.

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AND EVEN IF WE START WITH JUST ONE CORRIDOR TO CHANGE THAT, AND THEN WORKING THE PLAN TO OTHER CORRIDORS.

'CAUSE WE HAVE MANY IN THE CITY, UM, SO THAT THERE'S EQUAL ACCESS FOR ACCESSIBILITY, THAT WE HAVE MORE SAFETY AND LESS CONFUSION IN OUR CORRIDOR.

UM, THE, JUST THE SMALL LITTLE BIT THAT THEY'VE PAVED GOING OVER THE FREEWAY THAT THEY DID LAST NIGHT, UM, CHANGED MY PERCEPTION OF WHAT THE CITY IS RIGHT THERE.

THERE IS A PART THAT THEY HAVEN'T DONE YET THAT I'M ASSUMING THEY'RE DOING TONIGHT, BUT THAT LITTLE TINY BIT OF PAVED ROAD INSTEAD OF THE RALLY ROAD THAT YOU WERE RIDING ON DAY BEFORE YESTERDAY CHANGED YOUR PERCEPTION.

SO HOW CAN WE TAKE THAT CORRIDOR AND REVAMP IT? WE'RE NOT THE FIRST TO DO THAT.

I MEAN, YOU LOOK AT THE CITIES IN EUROPE, THEY ARE VERY OLD.

WE'RE NOT OLD, WE'RE JUST HISTORICAL, UM, FROM OUR POINT OF VIEW.

SO HOW CAN WE CUT THE TRAFFIC DOWN? HOW CAN WE DIVERT IT OTHER PLACES? HOW CAN WE MAKE IT A WALKABLE CITY WITH PARK-LIKE STRUCTURES ALONG THE WAY, EVEN IF IT'S A SMALL, UM, PLANTING AREA AND A TREE AND NOT LOOKING AT A STERILE PARKING LOT, THAT IS THE THING YOU SEE ON AS YOU'RE GOING DOWN THE STREET.

UM, AND SO I WANNA KNOW, CAN THAT BE WAY MORE EMPHASIS IN OUR IMPLEMENTATION PART OF WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THIS GENERAL PLAN? YEAH, THESE ARE, THESE ARE GREAT QUESTIONS.

UH, THREE QUICK THOUGHTS.

ONE IS, UM, I THINK WE PROBABLY, I MEAN WE SHOULD, WE'LL LOOK AT IT AGAIN REALLY HARD, UM, IN TERMS OF ARE WE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN FOR THE CORRIDORS AND FOR WASHINGTON SPECIFICALLY IN THE LAND USE FRAMEWORK? SECOND THOUGHT IS, UM, THE LAND, THIS IS JUST THE LAND USE FRAMEWORK AND THERE ARE OTHER ELEMENTS THAT ALSO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT ROLE TO PLAY IN WHAT HAPPENS WITH CORRIDORS IN THE FUTURE.

AND SO IN THE DRAFT, GP WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT IT VERY HOLISTICALLY, MAKE SURE THE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS ARE CORRECT, MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC INVESTMENTS AND STREETSCAPE AND AND PUBLIC REALM ARE APPROPRIATE, BUT ALSO OBVIOUSLY ALIGN IT CLOSELY WITH PLANS FOR THE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM, UH, PARKS AND TRAILS AND MANY OTHER COMPONENTS OF THE GP.

AND THEN IT'S ALSO AN, UH, KINDA INSPIRING ME TO THINK THAT WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE DIGITAL PLAN IS IT SHOULD NOT ONLY BE ACCESSIBLE BY KIND OF REQUIRED OR OTHER ELEMENTS, BUT ALSO BY GOAL AREAS, BUT ALSO A THIRD BY PLACE.

I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE IT'S VERY EASY TO GET AT THE GP AND EVERYTHING IT HAS TO SAY ABOUT WHAT WE KNOW ARE VERY HIGH PRIORITY PLACES WITHIN THE CITY, INCLUDING CORRIDORS LIKE WASHINGTON.

UM, SO, UM, YEAH, DON'T HAVE ANSWERS TO ALL YOUR QUESTIONS TONIGHT, BUT THE QUESTIONS ARE, ARE EXCELLENT IN TERMS OF INSPIRING OUR THINKING ABOUT A, WHAT CAN WE DO IN THIS IN LAND USE SPECIFICALLY B, WHAT CAN WE DO WITH A GP OVERALL? AND THEN C HOW CAN WE MAKE SURE IT'S, IT'S CLEAR TO EVERYBODY WHAT THAT INTEGRATED SET OF STRATEGIES IS FOR THESE KEY PLACES.

SORRY, SORRY.

ONE FORETHOUGHT I HAVE IS I, I ALSO HAVE TO ALWAYS ASK MYSELF WHAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR A GENERAL PLAN.

THESE GENERAL PLANS ARE GENERAL BY DEFINITION .

AND SO THERE'S A, THERE'S A LIMIT TO HOW SPECIFIC AND DETAILED THEY CAN GET ABOUT, UM, SOME THINGS.

AND, AND COMMUNITIES OFTEN STRUGGLE WITH THIS IN TERMS OF LIKE, HEY, THIS IS SUCH A HIGH PRIORITY PLACE OR TOPIC, WHY CAN'T YOU SAY AND DO MORE IN YOUR GENERAL PLAN? IT'S LIKE SOMETIMES THE, THE RESPONSE HAS TO BE, WELL, IT, IT DOES NEED ANOTHER STEP.

YOU CAN'T DO IT ALL WITH YOUR GP.

THAT'S REALLY MORE APPROPRIATE FOR A CODE UPDATE OR A, YOU KNOW, FUNCTIONAL PLAN OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, YOU KNOW, SO WELL, AND I THINK TOO THAT ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS YOU ASKED US TO, TO LOOK AT WAS THE FACILITATING INVESTMENT AND TRANSFORMATION OF THAT DOWNTOWN SMART STATION.

IF WE WERE TO DO, LIKE HEATHER HAS SUGGESTED, IMPROVE THAT WHOLE CORRIDOR, THEN THE DEVELOPER WILL COME BECAUSE THEY SEE THAT WE HAVE SPENT SOME TIME, EFFORT, ENERGY MADE IT A PRIORITY.

UM, AND THEN IT'S EASY FOR A DEVELOPER TO COME AND DEVELOP WHEN THEY ALREADY HAVE A CORRIDOR RIGHT THERE.

AND I PERCEIVE THAT THAT'S A NICE PIECE OF LAND, A REALLY NICE PIECE OF LAND AND COULD BE USED FOR A LOT OF THINGS.

SO THANK YOU.

PUSH QUESTIONS.

GO FOR IT.

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JUST LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE LIKE HOW IMPRESSIVE THIS DRAFT FRAMEWORK IS AND HOW MUCH WORK HAS GONE INTO IT FROM ALL THE DIFFERENT PARTIES.

UH, SO WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR ALL THE, THE TIME AND EFFORT THAT'S GONE INTO PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.

UM, UH, I JUST HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, UM, FOR A COUPLE OF POINTS.

AND AS I ENTER INTO THE, THE QUESTIONS THE ONE OF YOU SAID, GET THE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS, RIGHT? TO ACCOMPLISH THE GOALS AND THE, IN THE GENERAL PLAN, I THINK IS LOOSELY WHAT ONE OF YOU SAID.

SO ONE OF THE GOALS IS, IS HOUSING, UM, AND MAKING SURE THAT OUR HOUSING STOCK IS GROWS SUFFICIENTLY.

UM, UH, I'M, I'M CURIOUS, I HAVEN'T SEEN IT YET, BUT MY REVIEW HASN'T BEEN VERY THOROUGH, UH, UP UNTIL NOW.

DOES THE LAND USE ELEMENT IDENTIFY, UH, CITY OWNED PROPERTIES THAT MAYBE SETTING ASIDE THE FAIRGROUNDS THAT MAY BE AVAILABLE FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT? AND DOES IT, ARE, ARE, ARE THOSE BEING ZONED IN A WAY THAT WOULD ADVANCE SORT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING GOALS? IS UH, UM, SO I DON'T THINK THE LAND USE HAS LIKE A MAP THAT SHOWS ALL THE CITY DESIGNATED PROPERTIES, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING WE HAVE DISCUSSED IN TERMS OF ONE OF THE RESOURCES THE CITY HAS IS CITY PROPERTIES.

AND SO WHAT RON IS GONNA PULL UP, I THINK THAT WE MADE A REFERENCE WITH THE, UM, IT'S, IT'S THE, IT'S THE LAND USE DESIGNATION THOUGH.

THE PUBLIC FACILITIES PUBLIC, YEAH.

YEP.

I'M ALMOST POSITIVE THE DEFINITION, THE DESIGNATION.

BEAR WITH US.

SURE.

OH, I, OH, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE, THERE'S.

SO THE PUBLIC SEMI-PUBLIC WHERE THERE'S A LAND USE DESIGNATION THAT IS PUBLIC, SEMI-PUBLIC, UM, AND THE CITY PROPERTIES ARE TYPICALLY ZONE THAT AS ARE SCHOOL PROPERTIES.

MM-HMM.

.

AND SO IN THE DESIGNATION THERE IS RECENT STATE LAW MM-HMM.

PER STATE LAW, A HUNDRED PERCENT AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS.

MM-HMM.

BY RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS THAT CONFORM TO OBJECTIVE STANDARDS ARE PERMITTED WITHIN THIS DESIGNATION.

SO IT'S COVERING A LITTLE BIT, IT DOES SAY BY RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS BECAUSE I THINK THE STATE LAW PROBABLY, UM, WAS FOCUSED ON, ON RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS BEING ABLE TO USE THEIRS.

UM, BUT IT IS SOMETHING, SO WE SHOULD MAKE SURE THAT THAT APPLIES APPROPRIATELY.

BUT IT IS SOMETHING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IS MAKING SURE THAT THE CITY PROPERTIES HAVE THE ABILITY TO FACILITATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT ALSO NOT NECESSARILY WANTING TO TAKE ALL CITY PROPERTIES AND ZONE THEM MIXED USE AT THE SAME TIME.

LIKE REALLY, YOU KNOW, WANTING TO LOOK AT IF WE'RE GOING TO USE PUBLIC FACILITIES MM-HMM.

THEY SHOULD BE FOR HOUSING AND THEY SHOULD BE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

RIGHT.

SO, UM, SO THAT, THAT'S GREAT.

AND IF THERE'S ANY SUCH PROPERTIES TO IDENTIFY THEM IN THE FRAMEWORK, UH, THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

UM, I'M PRETTY SURE THEY'RE IN THE HOUSING ELEMENT.

UM, I'M JUST, THEY'RE THE HOUSING ELEMENT I BELIEVE, SO I'M JUST DOUBLE CHECKING HERE.

YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, AND THAT LEADS INTO MY SECOND QUESTION, WHICH, WHICH ALSO SORT OF COVERS THAT GENERAL SUBJECT MATTER AREA, BUT ALSO THE 15 MINUTE NEIGHBORHOODS, WHICH IS ONE OF THE, UH, 15 MINUTE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS IS, UH, I BELIEVE A SCHOOL DISTRICT OWNED PROPERTY.

IS THAT, IS THAT RIGHT? THE, THE CASA GRANDE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER.

UM, MY QUESTION IS, HAS THE CITY HAD, UM, CONVERSATIONS WITH PETALUMA CITY SCHOOLS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THEIR, THEIR VISION FOR, FOR THAT

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PROPERTY? AND IS THAT REF, IS THAT REFLECTED IN SOME OF THE OPTIONS THAT ARE SET OUT IN THE, UH, I HAVE NOT SPOKEN WITH THIS WITH CITY SCHOOLS ON THIS SPECIFICALLY.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY WERE CONSIDERING THAT FOR HOUSING, TEACHER HOUSING.

UM, SO IT KIND OF TRYING TO SYNC UP WITH THAT.

UM, YEAH, THAT, THAT'S ALL I HAVE ON THAT.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ADDITION ON THAT? YEAH.

UM, AND I THINK WE RECENTLY ARE NOW IN CONTACT WITH THE SCHOOLS AS PART OF THE LAND USE FRAMEWORK OUTREACH.

I THINK THAT, UM, STAFF HAS BEEN INITIATING CONTACT WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO TALK THROUGH SOME OF THESE THINGS.

THAT'S GREAT.

YEAH.

IT WOULD, UM, IT WOULD BE EXCELLENT IF, IF OUR FRAMEWORK COULD HELP FACILITATE WHATEVER GOALS OF THE CITY ARE, OR THE, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WITHOUT THEM HAVING TO GET A, YOU KNOW, GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT DOWN THE ROAD OR SOMETHING.

YEAH.

UM, UH, SO THANK, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UM, AND YOU, YOU WERE REFERRING TO THE CASA GRANDE? YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

THAT'S THAT ONE RIGHT THERE.

UM, IT'S ALSO CLOSE TO A NEWLY IDENTIFIED 15 MINUTE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER, THE LAKEVILLE STARBUCKS, UM, SHOPPING CENTER.

AND THERE'S ALSO A SHOPPING CENTER THAT'S NOT IDENTIFIED THAT'S JUST SORT OF HALFWAY BETWEEN CASA GRANDE AND, UM, THE LAKEVILLE, UH, STARBUCKS.

UM, MY LAST QUESTION IS ALSO ABOUT THE 15 MINUTE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, HOW IS, HOW DOES THAT INTERACT WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE ELEMENT OF THE GENERAL PLAN WHERE WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THAT WE'RE, HOW, HOW SHOULD I SAY IT? UH, HOW IS IT ENSURING THAT 15 MINUTE NEIGHBORHOODS AND ARE MORE DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES ARE, UM, EQUALLY VIBRANT, UH, AND, AND ACHIEVING EQUITABLE OUTCOMES AS THEY EVOLVE? I, IS THERE A LINKAGE BETWEEN THE TWO? THE SIMPLE ANSWER IS YES.

THE MORE COMPLEX ANSWER IS .

IT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS TO SOME EXTENT.

UM, WE CERTAINLY WERE LOOKING, SO AS I THINK YOU KNOW, BRENT, THERE'S TWO WELL HIGH LEVEL TWO STEPS TO THE IDENTIFICATION AND DETERMINATION OF DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES PER SB 1000.

THE FIRST STEP ARGUABLY IS THE EASIER PART, THE ANALYTICAL SIDE WHERE YOU, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY LOOK AT THE OVERLAP BETWEEN LOW INCOME AND VARIOUS HEALTH, UM, AND ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH IMPACTS AND IDENTIFY DAX THAT WAY.

BUT THEY HAVE TO BE GROUND TRUTH, RIGHT? MM-HMM.

.

AND SO CITIES WE'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF GROUND TRUTHING THOSE, BUT WHAT WE HAVE DONE WITH THE DATA SIDE OF IT IS LOOKED AT THE, THE DAX IDENTIFIED THROUGH THE ANALYSIS RELATIVE TO ALL THESE AREAS OF CHANGE AND 15 MINUTE CENTERS THAT WE'VE BEEN CONSIDERING.

THE CHALLENGE IT PRESENTS IS THAT THE DECKS ARE BASED ON CENSUS BLOCKS AND TRACKS, WHICH ARE NOT USUALLY THE, DO NOT HAVE THE BOUNDARIES THAT FIT VERY WELL WITH THE WAY CITIES AND NEIGHBORHOODS THINK ABOUT THEMSELVES.

UM, SO THERE'S A LOT OF CONSTRAINTS WITH KIND OF THAT FAIRLY BLUNT APPROACH TO THINGS.

UM, BUT THAT BEING SAID, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THERE ARE A LOT, THE DS ARE PRIMARILY AROUND THE MCDOWELL AREA, PETALUMA BOULEVARD, NORTH PETALUMA BOULEVARD, BOULEVARD SOUTH, CLOSER TO 1 0 1, UM, AND ALONG LAKEVILLE AND THEN, UM, BETWEEN WASHINGTON AND THE RIVER ISH.

UM, BUT AGAIN, I'M NOT GONNA TAKE THOSE JUST AS THE BE ALL, END ALL.

MM-HMM, .

UM, BUT WE DID THINK VERY HARD ABOUT PROXIMITY TO, AND IT'S NOT JUST PRIVATE SERVICES, BUT PUBLIC AND PRIVATE AMENITIES AND SERVICES, UM, FOR ALL NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES IN PARTICULAR, BUT IT'S, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE IT QUITE PERFECT YET.

SO I THINK THERE'S MORE WORK TO BE DONE.

UM, AND WE STILL WANNA TALK MORE DIRECTLY WITH COMMUNITIES TO GET THEIR INPUT, BOTH TO ADD MORE PRECISION TO OUR UNDERSTANDING OF ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH IMPACTS THAT THE DATA NET MAY NOT BE SHOWING,

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UM, AS, AS WELL AS PEOPLE'S LIVED EXPERIENCE IN TERMS OF ACCESS TO HEALTHY FOOD, QUALITY HOUSING, PUBLIC FACILITIES AND SERVICES, ET CETERA.

RIGHT.

SO, SO THAT BEING SAID, IF YOU OR OTHERS ARE AWARE OF NEIGHBORHOODS THAT DO DO, LIKE ARGUE, LIKE KNOW THAT THERE DON'T HAVE GOOD ACCESS TO A, A, A, B, OR C THINGS THAT THEY NEED ON A REGULAR BASIS, WE CERTAINLY WANNA KNOW, PARTICULARLY RELATIVE TO 15 MINUTE CENTERS, WE MAY HAVE IDENTIFIED OR AREAS THAT WE'VE OTHERWISE IDENTIFIED WHERE WE WANT TO DIVERSIFY USES PARTIALLY IN THE HOPES OF PROVIDING SER SERVICES CLOSER TO PRO PROXIMITY TO WHERE PEOPLE LIVE.

RIGHT.

SO, YEAH, THAT, THAT, THAT'S VERY HELPFUL.

UH, I, I APPRECIATE THAT, THAT WE HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AND, AND GET FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITIES, UM, AND NEIGHBORHOODS WITHIN PETALUMA ABOUT, ABOUT THEIR GOALS AND OBJECTIVES.

YEAH, THANK YOU.

WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE ON TRACK TO DO IS INITIATE THAT DURING LAND USE, BUT WE'RE GONNA EXTEND THOSE CONVERSATIONS BEYOND THIS, THIS, UM, SEPTEMBER 30 REVIEW PERIOD FOR THE LAND USE FRAMEWORK.

SO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THAT IN TIME FOR INTEGRATING IT ALL APPROPRIATELY INTO THE INITIAL DRAFT OF THE GENERAL PLAN.

YEAH.

THE EDITORIAL IS THAT THE 15 MINUTE NEIGHBORHOOD CONCEPT HAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR PROVIDING ENVIRONMENTAL GOODS FOR COMMUNITIES THAT, THAT, OR NEIGHBORHOODS WITHIN PET THAT DON'T HAVE GOOD ACCESS TO SAY THE HISTORICAL DOWNTOWN OR, OR, OR OTHER, YOU KNOW, HIGH QUALITY NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS.

THANK YOU.

A FOLLOW UP, ROGER, GO AHEAD.

YOU HAD A FOLLOW UP.

GO AHEAD.

ANOTHER, ANOTHER QUESTION.

UM, I, I GUESS MY SENSE THAT D STREET TO ME IS AN EXAMPLE OF, UM, THE INTENTION OF D STREET WAS TO HAVE BIG HOUSES, BIG SETBACKS, BIG TREES, AND IT WAS AN IMAGE STREET FOR PETALUMA.

IT WAS A VERY IMPORTANT IMAGE, STILL IS A VERY IMPORTANT IMAGE STREET.

SO BASICALLY THEY'RE DEALING WITH SETBACK HOUSES, TREES, UM, YOU CAN DO THAT WITH ANY STREET AND CREATE THE IMAGE YOU WANT.

IT CAN BE HOUSING, IT CAN BE INDUSTRIAL.

SO ALL I'M SAYING THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF A SUCCESSFUL ACHIEVEMENT OF A CORRIDOR.

NOT THAT I AGREE WITH THEIR INTENTION OF THE WEALTHY PEOPLE LIVE HERE.

BUT, UM, THE OTHER QUESTION IS, OKAY, FROM A A MASTER PLANNING GENERAL PLAN VIEWPOINT, WHAT ARE THE, WHAT ARE FREE PROJECTS THAT THE CITY SHOULD PRIOR KEY PRIORITY PROJECT THAT THE CITY TO ACHIEVE WITH PUBLIC FUNDING? ASSUMING THAT AS LAND IS DEVELOPED ADJACENT, THEY CAN, THE LAND CAN BE CHARGED FOR THOSE COSTS.

SO IT'S RE IT'S RE RETRIEVABLE COSTS.

I'D BE, I MEAN, IT'D BE INTERESTING FROM YOUR VIEWPOINT.

IT, WELL, I WANNA TOUCH ON THE FIRST ONE AND THEN YOU CAN TOUCH ON THE .

UM, WE DID HAVE AN INTERESTING CONVERSATION WHEN WE HAD A SIMILAR MEETING WITH THE GPAC ABOUT LAND USES AND THE DESIRABLE KIND OF LAND USE AND MASSING AND ARTICULATION AND INTERACTION ALONG A CORRIDOR.

AND THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT, UM, THE VARIETY.

UH, I, I THINK IT WAS ALLIE GAYLORD HAD JUST BEEN IN PORTLAND AND SHE WAS REALLY STRUCK BY A NEIGHBORHOOD SHE WAS IN BECAUSE THERE WOULD BE A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE NEXT TO A GROCERY STORE, NEXT TO A SHOP SELLING CRYSTALS NEXT TO A APARTMENT COMPLEX.

AND LIKE THAT KIND OF, THAT IT WASN'T ALL ONE THING, IT WASN'T ALL SET AT THE EXACT SAME SETBACK.

IT WAS, IT HAD SOME OF THAT ORGANIC, YOU KNOW, AND THAT IDENTIFYING THAT WITH PETALUMA, THAT IT'S THAT.

SO I THINK WE ARE HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT COMES WITH THE CORRIDOR, NOT JUST, NOT JUST THE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE, THE SIDEWALK, BUT ALSO THE ALLOWABLE UNDULATION THAT WOULD BE WITH, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER'S DEVELOPED ON THE PRIVATE PROPERTY AND HOW IT INTERACTS EVEN WITH, WITH WHAT'S THERE.

'CAUSE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT LIKE BIG O TIRES ON, ON WASHINGTON AND YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S, MAYBE IT'S OKAY TO HAVE SOME USES THAT ARE THOSE KIND OF USES WHEN YOU'VE GOT OTHER THINGS.

AND THERE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THAT VARIETY AND THAT UNDULATION.

SO JUST TO KIND OF REINFORCE WHAT, WHAT I THINK YOU'RE

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MENTIONING, THAT WAS A SIMILAR CONVERSATION WE HAD WITH, WITH THE GPAC , YOU'RE GONNA PUNT THE TOP THREE PUBLIC INVESTMENT PRIORITY QUESTIONS TO ME.

YEAH.

, UM, GREAT QUESTION ABOUT PRIORITIES FOR PUBLIC INVESTMENT.

UM, AND I AGREE THE GENERAL PLAN SHOULD BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT THAT.

UM, IF I HAD TO CHOOSE TODAY WITHOUT GIVING IT A HUGE AMOUNT OF THOUGHT, THOUGHT WAS ASKING FOR, I DIDN'T, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? WHAT, WHAT WE THINK THE THREE TOP PRIORITIES ARE FOR PUBLIC INVESTMENT? WAS THAT YOUR QUESTION? NO, NO.

FROM A PERSON WHO KNOWS THE PET, FROM A GENERAL PLAN STANDPOINT, WHAT IS YOUR OBSERVATION? THE KEY INVESTMENTS THE CITY SHOULD MAKE PUBLIC INVESTMENTS TO ACHIEVE SOMETHING THAT CAN BE, YOU KNOW, PARCELED OFF TO INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES WHEN THEY DEVELOP, BUT IT BE INVESTMENT BY THE CITY FUNDS TO ACHIEVE UN REGARDLESS TO A DEVELOP TO A DEVELOPMENT UNTIL IT HAPPENS.

ARE YOU ASKING FOR THEIR JUST SORT OF PERSONAL OPINIONS? I CAN'T HEAR YOU.

JUST THEIR PERSONAL OPINIONS.

YES.

WELL, THEY'RE FROM A BIAS PLANNING OPINION.

YEAH, SURE.

UM, YEAH, I'M NOT, WELL THAT'S A TOUGH ONE.

UM, BUT I, I AGREE THE GENERAL PLAN SHOULD BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT, UM, VERY HIGH LEVEL.

AND IF, OH, DAVE'S NOT HERE STILL.

UH, I WAS GONNA SAY, FOR DAVE'S SAKE, I WAS GONNA SAY PRIORITY NUMBER ONE IS, UH, TRANSPORTATION .

UM, AND THEN, UH, WELL, I'M, I'M NOT THIS, THIS CAN'T, THE CITY CAN'T DO ALL OF THIS, SO IT'S GONNA BE, HAVE, HAVE TO BE CITY FUNDING SUPPLEMENTED WITH STATE, FEDERAL, ET CETERA.

BUT I THINK, UM, THE RESILIENCE INVESTMENTS ARE GONNA BE CRITICAL.

UM, AND THEN, UH, I HAD THE THIRD A MINUTE AGO, UM, I SPACED IT, BUT, UH, FOR YOUR SAKE, I'M GONNA SAY, UM, PUBLIC INVESTMENTS IN THE PUBLIC REALM AND STREETSCAPING AND THE, BASICALLY THINK ABOUT THE, THE PEDESTRIANS BICYCLISTS, PEOPLE WHO AREN'T IN THEIR CARS AND THEIR EXPERIENCE AND CREATE A INTEGRATED CITYWIDE, EASILY NAVIGABLE, UM, SYSTEM FOR PEOPLE TO GET ABOUT WITHOUT GETTING IN A CAR.

BUT I BET HEATHER HAS HER WISHLIST.

WELL, I'M, I DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT I'M GONNA TOUCH THAT QUESTION , BUT I WOULD SAY THAT I, I FEEL LIKE A LOT OF THESE THINGS ARE HUGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY, AND WE ALL KNOW THAT.

AND I ALSO THINK THAT PETALUMA HAS BEEN DOING A REMARKABLE JOB WITH SOME OF THE, THE CREATIVE QUICK BUILD, UM, CHANGES IN SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS, SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD INVESTMENTS, UM, THAT REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

SO I THINK I, I WOULD ENCOURAGE US ALL TO NOT ONLY THINK OF A FULL REBUILD OF THE ENTIRE CORRIDOR, IT'S THAT OR NOTHING.

I THINK WE NEED TO ALSO BE THINKING ABOUT THE THINGS WE HAVE.

LYNCH CREEK TRAIL.

LYNCH CREEK TRAIL IS A PHENOMENAL RESOURCE, YOU KNOW, AS, AND YOU KNOW, THINGS WE CAN DO ALONG THERE SO THAT PEOPLE, MORE PEOPLE USE IT AND SO THAT PEOPLE FEEL SAFE.

AND SO THAT IT'S PLEASANT AND, YOU KNOW, AND, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE BE THINKING ABOUT SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO MORE QUICKLY, LESS COSTLY.

NOT THAT IT MEANS WE SHOULDN'T ALSO DO A CORRIDOR STUDY FOR, YOU KNOW, TO COME UP WITH A NEW WASHINGTON, UH, BUT ALSO NOT FORGETTING SOME OF THE THINGS WE HAVE AND THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO QUICKLY AND CREATIVELY AND A LITTLE SCRAPPY.

THANK YOU, NICOLA, WITH A FOLLOW UP.

GO AHEAD.

JUST ONE COMMENT.

UM, OH NO, WE'RE IN QUESTIONS STILL.

WHAT? WE'RE IN QUESTIONS STILL DO HAVE A FOLLOW QUESTION OR QUESTION? I'M SORRY.

OKAY.

ONE QUESTION.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS TRYING TO POINT OUT IS THAT, THAT ONE SECTION THAT IS DONE OF THE CON OF THE RESURFACING, IF THAT WAS JUST A QUICK PROJECT, THE REST OF THE WAY WOULD CHANGE DRAMATICALLY.

AND IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IS A QUICK FIX? I DON'T EVEN KNOW.

UM, IT WOULD CHANGE THE CORRIDOR ITSELF DRAMATICALLY.

SEE, ARE WE GONNA BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH THE ALTERNATE THE LAND USE ALTERNATIVES

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OR NO? IS THAT SOMETHING YOU WANT FEEDBACK? WE'LL, WE, WE SHOULD KEEP THAT TILL THE 10TH.

'CAUSE THAT'S A BIT MORE GRANULAR YEAH.

WHEN WE'RE GETTING INTO THE FULL SOLICITATION OF INPUT.

SO I THINK I'M GONNA, I'VE GOT A FEW TACTICAL QUESTIONS THAT I'LL GO ONE BY ONE AND THEN SORT OF MORE NEBULOUS ONE.

SO THE COUNSEL IS PROVIDING FEEDBACK ON THE NINTH THE NIGHT BEFORE US.

ARE THEY GONNA BE LOOKING AT EVERYTHING OR EVERYTHING, BUT LAND USE EVERYTHING BUT LAND USE.

OKAY, GREAT.

THANK YOU.

UM, ON THE PRESENTATION, YOUR STAFF, UH, PRESENTATION, THERE WAS A FOCUS MAP THAT APPEARED BOTH ON PAGE 10 AND RIGHT BEFORE YOU WENT TO THE CONTEXT SLIDE.

AND I AM NOT SEEING IT IN THE DRAFT FRAMEWORK, OR MAYBE I JUST HAVEN'T SPOTTED IT YET, BUT THE, THE COLOR CODING WAS THROWING ME OFF .

IT, IT'S NOT IN THE FRAMEWORK.

IT'S A MAP WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR, UM, THE ENGAGEMENT.

SO IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S ONE OF THE BOARDS OF A POPUP.

OKAY.

THE, THE, THE COLOR CODING THAT WAS THROWING ME WAS THAT HISTORIC DISTRICT AND RESIDENTIAL LOOKED AWFUL CLOSE.

AH.

UM, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S JUST THE SCREEN, BUT I WANTED TO FLAG THAT AS THEY'RE, THEY'RE CLOSE A LITTLE BIT DISTINCT, BUT YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT, THEY'RE CLOSE.

YEAH, LIKE TAN AND YELLOW .

OKAY.

UM, SO GIVEN THAT THERE'S BEEN ALL OF THESE CONVERSATIONS AROUND THE 13 PREVIOUSLY REVIEWED FRAMEWORK, BUT THAT THAT FEEDBACK IS NOT INTEGRATED INTO LAND USE, HOW IMPORTANT IS IT GOING TO BE FOR US TO REITERATE THOSE NOTES OR WILL THAT COMPLICATE THINGS? UH, I'D SAY IT'S NOT NE IF YOU'VE ALREADY MADE THE SAME COMMENT, BUT SPECIFIC TO ANOTHER FRAMEWORK, YOU DON'T NEED TO REPEAT IT.

OKAY.

HOWEVER, IF YOU, IF IT'S REALLY ABOUT AN IMPORTANT NEXUS BETWEEN LAND USE AND SOME OTHER TOPIC THAT'S WORTH NOTING, UM, PART OF, PART OF A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE THINKING ABOUT AS WE MOVE FORWARD IS, UM, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THIS BIGGER STRUCTURAL ORGANIZATIONAL QUESTION AND HOW TO, HOW TO HANDLE SOME OF THE, MANY OF THE ISSUES THAT ARE, THAT TOUCH ON SO MANY DIFFERENT TOPICS.

AND SO IT'S USEFUL TO KNOW WHERE PEOPLE SEE THOSE POINTS OF CONNECTION.

IT HELPS, IT HELPS INFORM OUR THINKING MOVING FORWARD.

YEAH.

OKAY.

BUT WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO GO SORT OF BULLET BY BULLET IN THE WAY WE DID IN OUR PREVIOUS ROUNDS.

TO THE EXTENT THAT THERE'S OVERLAP, I, I WANNA, I'M NOT, NOT SURE I'M A HUNDRED PERCENT UNDERSTANDING YOUR QUESTION, BUT WE, WE WOULD APPRECIATE THE SAME LEVEL OF THOROUGH REVIEW SURE.

OF THE LAND USE FRAMEWORK AS YOU.

OKAY, GREAT.

UM, OFF OF THE CASA GRANDE CONVERSATION, WHEN WE'D PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED 15 MINUTE NEIGHBORHOODS, THAT'S ONE THAT DRAWS MY EYE BECAUSE IT WOULD BE MY HUB.

ARE THE 15 MINUTE CENTERS LOCKED OR STILL KIND OF A VAGUE HERE-ISH.

UH, UH, WELL, IT, ON THE LARGER SITES THEY'RE HERE-ISH.

THE SMALLER SITES, THEY'RE, THEY'RE PROBABLY A LITTLE MORE PRECISE.

OKAY.

UM, BUT THEY'RE ALSO NOT THE, THE FINAL LIST.

SURE.

THE, ONE OF THE BIG QUESTIONS WE HAVE DURING COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IS, DO WE HAVE THESE RIGHT.

SHOULD SOME BE NOT, ARE THERE SOME JUST NOT REALISTIC? ARE THERE OTHERS THAT ARE MISSING? BUT ALSO IF YOU HAVE VERY SPECIFIC IDEAS ABOUT PARTICULAR ONES, YOU KNOW, THE TABLE WE'VE GOT AND THE FRAMEWORK THAT KIND OF HIGH LEVEL BEGINS TO KIND OF CHARACTERIZE THEM IS PRETTY SUPERFICIAL AT THIS POINT.

SO IF YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL INSIGHTS OR CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE SHOULD KEEP IN MIND AS WE REFINE BOTH THE LOCATION AND THE NATURE OF SOME OF THESE CENTERS, THAT'S EXTREMELY HELPFUL.

OKAY.

WELL, THIS DOVETAILS INTO MY MORE NEBULOUS QUESTION, WHICH IS HOW ARE WE THINKING ABOUT THE FLEXIBILITY VERSUS RIGIDITY OF THIS LAND USE FRAMEWORK? BECAUSE IN MY MIND, PARTICULARLY IF WE'RE SORT OF STICKING WITH A 15 MINUTE NEIGHBORHOOD HUB, YOU WOULD SORT OF WISH FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD TO ORGANICALLY CREATE SUCH A THING AND YOU HAVE A, A GREAT COFFEE SHOP THAT COMES UP AND THEN THAT ATTRACTS MORE COOL THINGS AND WHATEVER IT IS, UM, CAN BE A BIT LESS PRESCRIPTIVE.

WHEREAS WHAT IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE DOING WITH THESE MAPS IS SAYING RIGHT HERE, THIS IS WHERE IT'S GOTTA GO.

AND, AND I FEAR THAT BY DOING IT, SO SPECIFICALLY WE'LL TALK OURSELVES OUT OF WHAT COULD BE INTERESTING ORGANIC USAGE IN, IN OTHER PARTS OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WOULD EQUALLY BE VALUABLE TO THE, UH, COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

SO HOW ARE WE THINKING ABOUT THAT SORT OF FLEXIBILITY? I'LL, I'LL START AND THEN YOU CAN ADD ON.

SO, UM,

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ONE OF THE THINGS IS MUCH OF PETALUMA'S RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS HAS A RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT, AND ALL YOU CAN HAVE IS A RESIDENTIAL USE.

AND SO IT ESSENTIALLY PROHIBITS THAT KIND OF ORGANIC POPPING UP OF A NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER.

SO PART OF WHAT WE'RE DOING IS TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT THE LAND USE DESIGNATION IN THERE SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER BE SO THAT YOU CAN DO, YOU KNOW, SOME COMMERCIAL MIXED USE WHATEVER AT THE SAME TIME.

AND I THINK THIS PLAYS INTO THAT MORE ORGANIC POPPING UP.

UM, WE DO HAVE POLICIES, AND I THINK IT MIGHT BE IN THE, IN THE RESIDENTIAL LAND USE DESIGNATION THAT IS MORE PERMISSIVE TO, UM, SOME LEVEL OF RETAIL POPPING UP IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.

SO IT'S A LITTLE, UM, YEAH, THAT'S NOT SO, SO WE'RE TRYING TO DO BOTH.

WE'RE TRYING TO IDENTIFY THOSE CENTERS AND MAKE SURE THEY'VE GOT THE MIXED USE OR WHATEVER ZONING.

AND THEN WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO ADD SOME LANGUAGE INTO OUR RESIDENTIAL ZONES THAT GIVES A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY.

SO WHETHER IT'S A COFFEE SHOP OR A, YOU KNOW, EVEN WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT, I WANT ENOUGH FLEXIBILITY THAT I COULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, A FARM STAND BECAUSE I GROW, I HAVE A, AN AMAZING CUT GARDEN, FLOWER GARDEN IN MY BACKYARD, AND I WANNA SELL, YOU KNOW, FRESH BOUQUETS.

AND NO, YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT PULLING PEOPLE FROM ACROSS TOWN NECESSARILY, BUT YOU'RE, IT'S A SMALL COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISE THAT THEN KIND OF GAINS NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO, SO WE'RE TRYING TO DO IT BOTH WAYS.

ANYTHING TO ADD? I THINK THE KEITH THING TO REMEMBER IS THAT, AND THIS GOES BACK TO EARLIER DISCUSSION WE HAD, IS WE'RE, WE'RE NOT, THE CENTERS ARE NOT AN OVERLAY OR A, OR ANY KIND OF POLICY.

UM, THEY'RE NOT BEING ESTABLISHED BY POLICY PER SE, RIGHT? IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'LL HAVE TO GET A VOTE OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO IDENTIFY A NEW 15 MINUTE CENTER.

THAT'S NOT THE INTENT.

UM, THAT BEING SAID, WE ARE TRYING TO BE CLEARER ABOUT WHERE WE THINK THERE'S THE POTENTIAL, BECAUSE AS YOU LOOK AT THE POLICIES UNDER GOAL SIX IS THEY ALL START WITH FACILITATE.

MANY OF 'EM START WITH FACILITATE.

AND IT DOES CALL FOR THE CITY TAKING A PROACTIVE LEADERSHIP ROLE AND TRYING TO FACILITATE THE DEVELOPMENT OF SOME OF THESE THINGS.

SO IF THERE'S AN AREA THAT YOU THINK SHOULD BE ON THE LIST, IT'D BE GOOD TO INCLUDE IT SO THAT IT'S ON THE RADAR IN TERMS OF GETTING FUTURE ATTENTION.

BUT WE ALSO WANNA MAKE SURE THE GP DOESN'T DO ANYTHING TO PRECLUDE ANOTHER ONE THAT'S NOT PRE-IDENTIFIED FROM NATURALLY ORGANICALLY EVOLVING AS SUCH.

SO WE CERTAINLY, IF, IF YOU'VE SEEN ANYTHING IN HERE THAT YOU FEAR WOULD DO THAT, WE'D CERTAINLY NOT, WOULD, DON'T WANT THAT TO BE THE CASE EITHER.

CAN I ADD ONE MORE, ONE MORE THING TO ADD TO THAT.

UM, A NUMBER OF THESE CENTERS ARE IDENTIFIED WHERE THERE'S ALREADY, YOU KNOW, A SHOPPING CENTER, BUT WE ALSO REALIZE THAT THERE MIGHT BE A SHOPPING CENTER AND IT MIGHT NOT BE SERVING AS A 15 MINUTE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER.

AND SO SOME OF WHAT WE WANNA THINK ABOUT TOO IS WHAT DO WE NEED HERE? WE'VE GOT ALREADY, YOU KNOW, COMMERCIAL USES OR WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE.

WHY, WHY NOT? WHY AREN'T THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVE ACROSS THE STREET, WHY AREN'T THEY COMING OVER HERE? IS IT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE THE TYPE OF USES THAT THEY NEED? IS IT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THIRD SPACE, OUTDOOR AREA TO NOT FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE TO PURCHASE IN ORDER TO BE? UM, SO I, AND WE TALKED WITH THE GPAC ABOUT THIS AS WELL.

IF ARE THERE, ARE THERE THINGS WE NEED TO HELP EVOLVE THE EXISTING SHOPPING AREAS INTO MORE OF THAT 15 MINUTE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ARE USED BY THE NEIGHBORS, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THERE? I MEAN, JUST TO RESPOND TO THAT, SPEAKING AS SOMEONE ON THE EAST SIDE, A LOT OF IT IS WALKABILITY OR LACK THEREOF.

SO I'M CURIOUS WHAT LEVERS WE HAVE SORT OF BACK TO CORRIDORS.

HOW, HOW CAN WE FIX THAT ? WELL, AND THAT'S EXACTLY, WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT DEER CREEK VILLAGE.

YEAH.

WITH GPAC AND DEER CREEK VILLAGE IS OF THE SHOPPING CENTERS THAT HAS A LOT MORE OF THE THINGS, LIKE IT HAS THE PUBLIC ART THAT THEY INSTALLED ON SITE,

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IT HAS, UM, IT HAS COVERED BIKE PARKING THAT ISN'T THE KIND OF LIKE, UH, LOCKER THINGS BEHIND THE BUILDING.

THEY'RE MORE UPFRONT NEXT TO THE BUILDING.

IT, UM, IT NOW IS ABOUT TO HAVE HOUSING INCORPORATED WITHIN IT.

IT'S, YOU KNOW, GOT THE DOG PARK THERE, SO IT'S GOT MORE THAN SOME OF THE OTHER SHOPPING CENTERS.

BUT WHEN YOU TALK TO PEOPLE WHO MAYBE LIVE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET OFF A RAINIER, THEY DON'T USE IT AS THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER.

AND SO WHY, AND ONE OF THE THINGS WHEN WE WERE TALKING TO GPAC, THEY SAID, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T FEEL SAFE JUST TO CROSS MCDOWELL.

SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S REALLY GOOD FEEDBACK.

AND THAT'S THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT IS, OKAY, WHAT DO WE NEED IN HERE IN, IN OUR POLICIES, IN OUR, YOU KNOW, IN OUR TRANSPORTATION TO IDENTIFY THAT IN AN AREA FOR, YOU KNOW, ENHANCED CROSSING, ENHANCED CROSSWALKS.

YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE ANSWER IS, BUT, UM, TO BE THINKING OF THAT.

SO I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD LENS.

THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL TOO.

AND IT'S NOT, THE ONLY WAY YOU'RE GONNA FIX THIS IS TO TEAR EVERYTHING DOWN AND REBUILD A MIXED USE TRADITIONAL MIXED USE CENTER.

LET'S, LET'S THINK ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PRIORITIZE OR INTERJECT, OR ENCOURAGE OR WHATEVER IT IS TO TURN WHAT WE HAVE INTO WHAT WE WANT.

ONE OTHER QUICK ADDITION IS YOU'LL NOTICE THAT, SO WE, WE WANTED 15 MINUTES C CITY TO BE A CHAPTER, UH, IN AND OF ITSELF, AND IT HAS FOUR GOAL AREAS EACH WITH A BUNCH OF POLICIES.

AND HEATHER TOUCHED ON SEVERAL OF THEM ALREADY.

SO YEAH, FIRST LET'S BE CLEAR ABOUT WHERE, THEN LET'S BE CLEAR ABOUT, HEY, IT'S NOT ENOUGH JUST TO TRY TO, UH, MIX THE USES OF THESE CENTERS.

LET'S ALSO INTENSIFY DENSIFY THE NEIGHBORHOOD SO THERE'S MORE PEOPLE CREATING MORE OF A, A CRITICAL MASS TO SUPPORT BUSINESSES.

THIRD LEG OF THE STOOL IS ADD NON-RESIDENTIAL USES AND ALLOWABLE USE.

AND THEN THE FOURTH IS, TO YOUR POINT, IS WE GOTTA MAKE INVESTMENTS IN PUBLIC REALM, CIVIC MOBILITY, INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS SO THAT PEOPLE HAVE THE MEANS TO GET FROM A TO B MUCH MORE EASILY AND SAFELY AND, AND PLEASANTLY, YOU KNOW? OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND THEN JUST ONE MORE SORT OF OPEN-ENDED QUESTION OF HOW, HOW ARE, HOW'S THE GENERAL PLAN IN THE LAND USE FRAMEWORK? THINKING ABOUT SORT OF INCREMENTAL INTENSIFICATION.

I KNOW ROGER BROUGHT UP THE NOTION OF, YOU KNOW, HAVING FIVE INTENSIFYING PROJECTS ACROSS FIVE NEIGHBORHOODS VERSUS FIVE IN ONE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THOUGH I CAN'T HELP BUT THINK IF I LIVED IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT GOT THE FIVE, IT MIGHT FEEL A LITTLE OVERBEARING.

UM, SO I'M CURIOUS HOW WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THAT SORT OF INCREMENTALISM ACROSS THE CITY.

I PERSONALLY THINK THAT IT'S A GREAT THING TO CONSIDER WHEN WE GET ALL THE INPUT AND ARE IN THOSE STRATEGIC CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHERE SPECIFICALLY TO FOCUS FEATURE DEVELOPMENT.

SOME CITIES WILL TAKE WHAT YOU MIGHT CONSIDER A KIND OF A PERFORMANCE BASED APPROACH TO DEVELOPMENT AND PHASE IT EXPLICITLY IN THEIR GENERAL PLAN BEING CLEAR THAT LIKE YOU'RE REALLY, THIS DESIGNATION DOES NOT KICK IN UNTIL THERE'S DEVELOPMENT AT A CERTAIN LEVEL IN ONE PART OF THE CITY.

AND SO THERE'S, THERE'S WAYS TO TO MANAGE THAT.

UM, I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THAT SPECIFICALLY IN THE CONTEXT OF SOME OF THE NEWER CALIFORNIA STATE LAWS, BUT IT'S WORTH CONSIDERING CERTAINLY IF THAT'S A, AN APPROACH THAT PEOPLE WANT TO CONSIDER.

SO, OKAY.

UM, THAT'S ALL OF MY QUESTIONS.

ANY FINAL QUESTIONS THAT OUGHT TO END IN A QUESTION MARK FROM COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.

THEN WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE COMMISSIONER, COMMENT AND OPEN UP PUBLIC COMMENT.

REGRETTABLY, WE'VE LOST OUR PUBLIC, SO I'M GONNA ASSUME WE HAVE, UH, NO PUBLIC, UH, IN PERSON.

BUT HAS THE CLERK RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING WE RECEIVED NO PUBLIC COMMENTS PRIOR TO THIS MEETING.

OKIE DOKIE.

UM, IN THAT CASE, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR COMMENTS.

IF THERE ARE FURTHER COMMENTS, CAN I JUST ADD THE QUESTIONS? I FEEL LIKE WE'VE HAD A NICE DIALOGUE THAT GOES IN INTO, THERE'S DEFINITELY BEEN SOME COMMENTS ALREADY MADE OR NOTED, UM, WHICH HAS BEEN HELPFUL.

RON AND I ARE, ARE HERE REALLY TO HELP IN ANY WAY.

SO IF THERE'S A TOPIC, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT IT WOULD HELP FOR US TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT WHERE, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY WITHIN THE REALM OF WHAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT OFF THE CUFF, BUT UM,

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YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE, WE DID THIS SO THAT WE DIDN'T JUST HAND YOU A HUNDRED AND WHATEVER IT IS, 37 PAGES OF, YOU KNOW, A LAND USE FRAMEWORK, BUT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO THINK BACK ON THOSE DRIVERS, THINK BACK ON THOSE DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN INFORMING WHERE WE ARE.

THINK BACK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE FUTURE LAND USE FOCUS IS BEHIND YOU NOW AND THE LAND USE, UH, AREAS OF CHANGE THAT ARE IN THE, IN THE FRAMEWORK, HOW SIMILAR THERE, IT'S AN EVOLVING, UM, BUT IT'S NOT BRAND NEW INFORMATION.

SO I JUST WANNA KIND OF, YOU KNOW, TO THROUGH THE CHAIR IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN CHAT ABOUT, UH, WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT IF YOU'RE LIKE, LET US GO AND, 'CAUSE WE MUST START READING THE FRAMEWORK.

HAPPY TO DO THAT TOO.

I, WE'RE HERE TO SUPPORT YOU.

WELL I THINK WE'VE MANAGED TO, UH, INADVERTENTLY HIT THE THREE STRATEGIES THAT WERE EARMARKED ALREADY AROUND VIBRANT 15 MINUTE ACTIVITY CENTERS, TRANSFORM AND REVITALIZE CORRIDORS LIKE E EAST WASHINGTON AND FACILITATE INVESTMENTS IN TRANS TRANSPORTATION OF THE SMART STATION DOWNTOWN.

UM, SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING FURTHER ON THOSE SPECIFIC ONES WE CAN DIVE IN OR SORT OF CONTINUE INTO, UH, THE 10TH.

ANYTHING YOU WANNA ADD? GO AHEAD, ROGER.

A QUESTION.

UM, MOST OF THE, UM, HIGHER INTENSITY PROPOSALS FOR MIXED USE OR HOUSING , UM, AND SPECIFICALLY WHEN YOU GET INTO THE 60 FOOT RANGE ARE VERY BIG PROJECTS.

SO I MEAN, THOSE ARE THREE TO FIVE ACRE PROJECTS, THREE, 400 UNITS, AND THEY'RE TYPICALLY MARKET RATE BECAUSE THEY'RE EXPENSIVE TO BUILD, BUT THEY HAVE A PERCENTAGE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THEM.

BUT IT IS NOT THE MAJORITY OF THE, IT'S, IT HAS TO BE CARRIED BY THE MARKET RATE.

UM, AND I, I ASSUME IT'S ALL RENTAL.

IS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION IN TERMS OF THE CITY FINANCIAL BENEFITS OR FINANCIAL COSTS IN TERMS OF HO HOMEOWNER VERSUS RENTAL IN TERMS OF WHAT THE CITY PAYS AND, YOU KNOW, RECEIVES AND PUTS OUT IN TERMS OF MAINTENANCE? IS THERE A PREFERENCE? I MEAN, I KNOW THERE'S A SOCIAL PREFERENCE OF HOMEOWNERS VERSUS RENTERS AND THAT'S NOT MY ISSUE.

THE ISSUE IS MORE, IS THERE A DIFFERENCE TO THE CITY FINANCIALLY TO HAVE CONDOMINIUMS OR HO HOME OWNED HIGHER DENSITY OR APARTMENTS? OKAY.

I WOULD SAY OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY IS TO HAVE HOUSING FOR ALL PETAL LUMENS.

UM, SO IT'S THE VARIETY OF HOUSING AND MAKING SURE WE HAVE HOUSING OF DIFFERENT SIZES AND DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES AND, YOU KNOW, WE WANT THE ABILITY FOR PEOPLE TO DOWNSIZE WHEN THEY'RE READY TO DOWNSIZE AND STEP UP INTO A LARGER HOUSE WHEN THEY NEED TO.

AND WHETHER THAT IS A HOUSE OR AN APARTMENT OR A CONDO.

UM, SO I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T THINK I'M ABLE TO AN ANSWER WHETHER THERE'S A DIFFERENCE IN LIKE, COST TO THE CITY.

IT'S MORE A MATTER OF MAKING SURE WE HAVE THE BROAD SPECTRUM OF HOUSING PRODUCTS AND HOUSING AFFORDABILITY AND HOUSING SIZES TO MEET PETALUMA'S HOUSING NEEDS.

I JUST, IT SEEMS, DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S DISCUSSED AT ALL IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, THE HIGHER DENSITY IS HIGHER DENSITY, BUT I KNOW IT'S WILL BE TOWARDS RENTAL BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE DO.

YEAH.

SO I DON'T, I'M NOT SURE HOW YOU CONSIDER, UH, CONDOMINIUM OWNERSHIP IN THESE HIGHER DENSITY.

IS IT FEASIBLE? IS IT NOT? UM, IT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT.

YEAH, THOSE ARE GREAT QUESTIONS.

UM, HIGH, WE DID SOME HIGH LEVEL INITIAL ANALYSIS AND, AND LOOKING AT THE TYPES OF LAND USE CHANGES WE'RE CONSIDERING, WE DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY OF THE CHANGES TO IMPACT THE CITY'S FISCAL SITUATION SIGNIFICANTLY, ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

THAT BEING SAID, WE DO PLAN ON DOING A FISCAL ANALYSIS AFTER THE, THE REVISED LAND USE MAP IS, UM, SELECTED.

UM, BUT GOTTA GOTTA REMEMBER TOO, CITIES CAN ALSO ADJUST THE WAY THEY GENERATE REVENUE, EITHER THROUGH ADJUSTMENTS IN TAX RATES ASSOCIATED WITH DIFFERENT CLASSES OF PROPERTY OR ADJUSTING THE BALANCE IN SOURCES OF REVENUE BETWEEN TOT PROPERTY TAX, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

RIGHT.

AND SO, SO LIKE LAND USE AND PLANNING, THE CITY SHOULD ALSO BE STRATEGIC ABOUT HOW IT THINKS ABOUT REVENUE GENERATION TO BALANCE, UM, EXPENSES.

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AND I'LL JUST ADD, I, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF OUR RENTER PROTECTION CONVERSATIONS EARLIER THIS YEAR, LAST YEAR, WE'RE IN DESPERATE NEED OF RENTAL UNITS TOO.

SO I THINK IT'S BOTH.

AND, AND JUST TO FOLLOW UP A LITTLE BIT ON THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THINKING ABOUT THE LAND USE DESIGNATION AND AS YOU MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, HIGH, HIGH, THERE'S SOME THAT ARE AN INCREASE IN HEIGHT, AN INCREASE IN DENSITY RANGES.

WE ARE LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK IN TERMS OF ARE THESE RIGHT, ARE THESE ARE, IS THIS TOO MUCH? IS THIS NOT ENOUGH? IT WOULD THIS BE FINE, BUT ONLY RIGHT HERE AND NOT OVER THERE.

LIKE, THOSE ARE THE KIND OF DISCUSSIONS THAT WE, WE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU.

WE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM GPAC, WE'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC, UM, TO, TO SUSS OUT THAT WE, THAT WE GOT IT RIGHT.

WELL, UH, BACK, BACK WHEN THE OVERLAY ZONE WAS BEING DISCUSSED, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, HOTEL OVERLAY, UH, I CONTACTED SOME HOUSING DEVELOPERS DOWN SOUTH WHO BUILD MULTIFAMILY HIGH DENSITY.

I SAID, WHAT, WHAT SIZE BUILDING DO YOU NEED? IF YOU GET 60 FOOT TALL STORE, UH, BUILDING, WHAT SIZE PROJECT DO YOU NEED TO MAKE THAT WORK? HE SAID, BECAUSE OF STRUCTURAL COSTS, FIRE COSTS, YOU HAVE A, YOU HAVE A 24 HOUR, UH, PERSON IN THIS LOBBY BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THE, OF THE SECURITY, UH, AND PARKING, STRUCTURED PARKING OR UNDERGROUND PARKING.

ALL OF THAT IS VERY EXPENSIVE.

SO YOU NEED ENOUGH UNITS TO COVER THAT.

SO IT'S THREE, THREE TO 400 UNITS, WHICH IS FOUR TO FIVE ACRE PROJECT.

AND THESE TYPICALLY ARE A BUILDING, I MEAN, IT'S PARKING AND THEN STRAIGHT UP.

IT'S A HUGE BUILDING.

AND I THINK OUR GUIDELINES THAT WE DEVELOP DON'T MEAN ANYTHING TO DEAL WITH THIS SORT OF A PROJECT IN OUR DOWNTOWN.

I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S A BLOCK LONG.

AND I THINK WE NEED TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT, OKAY, WHAT, WHAT ARE WE BUILDING HERE? THESE ARE BIG, UH, THESE ARE BIG AIRCRAFT CARRIERS PARKED IN THE CITY.

SO WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE IT FIT AND SIT RIGHT? AND, AND I DON'T THINK WE'VE DONE THAT.

I THINK THE GUIDELINES ARE, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GET MAXIMUM SETBACK AND ALL KINDS OF STUFF.

BUT, AND I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S GREAT FEEDBACK TOO.

THAT IT MIGHT BE, THIS MIGHT BE OKAY IF WE DO THESE OTHER THINGS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT OUT OF CHARACTER.

IT'S THAT THERE IS THE STANDARDS THAT WE NEED.

AND YOU'RE RIGHT, WE DON'T HAVE STANDARDS FOR THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T ALLOW THAT RIGHT NOW.

GO TALK TO A DEVELOPER IN ALBANY OR BERKELEY AND ASK 'EM ALL THE QUESTIONS YOU WANT.

'CAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE BEING BUILT AND THEY HAVE A TRACK RECORD AND THEY HAVE PERFORMANCE AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE.

I JUST MEANT, I THINK IT, IF WE ARE GOING TO HAVE AREAS WHERE MAYBE THERE IS MORE, UM, DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL AND YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY AROUND THE STATIONS, LET'S SAY WE SAID THESE ARE THE AREAS THAT WE THINK THERE SHOULD BE MORE.

I THINK IT ALSO IS GOING TO BE CRITICAL FOR THE CITY TO MAKE SURE THE APPROPRIATE DESIGN STANDARDS ARE ALSO IN PLACE THAT YOU NO, I DON'T, I THINK YOU'RE CORRECT THAT THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS THAT THE CITY ADOPTED PROBABLY ARE NOT ADEQUATE TO BE DEALING WITH THAT INCREASED SIZE OF DEVELOPMENT.

SO THAT WOULD BE A REALLY, YOU KNOW, IMPORTANT THING TO IDENTIFY TOO, THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, WE NEED TO HAVE POLICIES TO ADOPT, UH, UH, AMEND OUR, YOU KNOW, OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS TO CONSIDER THIS.

DARREN, THANK YOU.

I'VE JUST GOT A COUPLE QUICK POINTS.

I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT TWO THINGS THAT I, IN FOLLOWING GPAC THAT WEREN'T SPECIFICALLY ASKED HERE, BUT I THINK WERE TWO RIDDLES THAT THIS DID A GOOD CRACK AT.

THE FIRST WAS KIND OF MIXED USE AND THE FUTURE OF MIXED USE.

I LIKE THE FORM-BASED STANDARDS, TRYING TO GET A DESIGN AND AN ACTIVATED STREET FRONT SHADING THINGS TOWARD RESIDENTIAL.

OBVIOUSLY BREAKING OUT A LOT MORE ZONES SO WE CAN GET A LITTLE MORE, NOT PRESCRIPTIVE, BUT A LITTLE MORE DEFINED.

SO I THOUGHT THERE'S A LOT THERE.

I'M EXCITED TO READ MORE ABOUT THAT AND SEE HOW WE HANDLE MIXED USE.

'CAUSE I THINK THAT'S A BIG QUESTION FOR A LOT OF CITIES.

UH, AND THEN I THINK FOR THE SEA OF RESIDENTIAL THAN I KNOW IS THAT BIG YELLOW PART ON THE MAP.

I THINK THERE'S SOME THINGS IN HERE THAT I'M EXCITED TO READ MORE ABOUT, ABOUT LOOSENING BUSINESS USES OF HOMES.

THERE'S STUFF IN THERE ABOUT MAKING IT EASIER TO GROW AND SELL FOOD FROM YOUR OWN HOME.

LOOSENING REGULATIONS AROUND THAT.

IT DOESN'T TOTALLY ANSWER THIS ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE QUESTION, BUT IT'S

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LIKE A SMALL PIECE OF THAT PUZZLE MAKING SOME OF THAT COMMUNITY LED, UH, STUFF A LITTLE MORE AVAILABLE.

SO I'M EXCITED TO DIG MORE INTO THAT.

I JUST WANT TO ECHO WHAT PRETTY MUCH EVERYONE UP HERE HAS SAID ABOUT DESIGN, ABOUT PRIORITIZATION OF BOTH DESIGN STANDARDS FOR PRIVATE PROJECTS AND THEN PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE.

I THINK, UH, THE TWO THINGS ON IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS, UM, I THINK PRIORITIZATION OF IMPROVEMENTS.

I REALLY LIKE RON PUTTING THAT OUT THERE.

I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE A REALLY IMPORTANT THING TO COMMUNICATE TO DECISION MAKERS AND THE PUBLIC.

IT'S LIKE, LOOK, WE'VE GOT, THIS IS A MASSIVE PLAN, VERY LONG RANGE.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PRIORITIZE WHAT TO START WHEN.

AND WE HAVE A PATH FOR THAT CALLED THE IMPLEMENTATION AND GOVERNANCE, WHICH DOES HAVE SOME, I DON'T WANNA SAY RADICAL, BUT I THINK SOME NOVEL IDEAS THERE THAT ARE REALLY INTERESTING TO TRACK GENERAL PLAN PROCESS.

AND THEN FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, UM, OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE SOME WORKSHOPS PLANNED.

I THINK COMMUNICATING BOTH SIDES OF THE EQUATION OF YOUR GOAL TO KIND OF ADD DENSITY IN AREAS, BUT THEN THESE REALLY STRONG GOALS TO PROTECT THAT IS A REALLY GOOD THING.

I THINK.

I THINK I HAD MY HACKLES UP A LITTLE BIT UNTIL I READ DEEPER IN, LIKE I SAID, THAT SECTION 10 TO 13 KIND OF STARTS TO GET INTO A LOT OF THESE CONSIDERATIONS THAT BALANCE THAT OUT AND WHERE POSSIBLE.

'CAUSE THERE WERE SOME NEIGHBORHOODS MENTIONED THAT PEOPLE REALLY LIKED VISUAL AIDS OF HERE'S WHAT A QUADPLEX LOOKS LIKE.

UM, JUST 'CAUSE IT'S NOT OUR DECISION.

ULTIMATELY WE WOULD LOVE THE COMMUNITY TO DEVELOP SOME KIND OF CONSENSUS ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH.

AND I THINK SHOWING PEOPLE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IN THE CONTEXT OF DESIGN AND TONS OF STREET TREES, WHICH I LOVE TO SEE IN THERE, UM, I THINK IS GONNA BE REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT.

SO, UH, BUT YEAH, I THINK THERE'S, I I'M EXCITED TO DIG IN MORE 'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT HERE.

SO ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? I KEEP FORGETTING I'M SUPPOSED TO TURN THAT ON.

UM, JUST A COUPLE OF SMALL LITTLE NOTES.

UM, YOU ASKED WHERE THERE ARE SOME AREAS THAT YOU THOUGHT MAY NOT WORK AS A 15 MINUTE OR ADDITIONAL 15 MINUTE NEIGHBORHOODS.

I KNOW THAT THE NORTH STATION IS, IS DESIGNATED BECAUSE OF THE GROWTH AND THE FACT THAT THEY WANNA GO OUT, BUT THAT AS FAR AS I CAN SEE IS MANY, MANY YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.

AND THAT IS A REAL CRITICAL AREA THAT RIGHT NOW HAS NOTHING.

UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S A SERIOUS, AND IT'S A LOW INCOME, UM, LOW PROPERTY VALUE AREA.

UM, AND THEN OTHER THAN WHAT I SAID ABOUT THE CORRIDOR AND THAT IT'S A CRITICAL COMPONENT, I, I READ THROUGH THE, MY FIRST PASS THROUGH THE LAND USE AND I WAS IMPRESSED BY HOW READABLE IT WAS HAVING DONE MOST OF THE OTHER FRAMEWORKS AND GOTTEN FRUSTRATED ON THEM, UM, THIS ONE WAS READABLE, USABLE, UNDERSTANDABLE.

THERE WERE LOTS OF QUESTIONS THAT I CAME UP WITH WAS I WAS READING IT, BUT I WAS LIKE REALLY EXCITED TO SEE HOW WELL IT HAD BEEN BROUGHT TOGETHER.

SO I WANNA THANK YOU GUYS FOR DOING THAT.

GREAT.

WELL WITH THAT, WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN ON THE 10TH AND LOOK FORWARD TO GET MORE INTO THE NITTY GRITTY.

I'M SURE THERE'LL BE LOTS MORE TO DISCUSS ON SEPTEMBER 10TH.

OH, GO AHEAD.

UM, TWO THINGS, UH, JUST IN PREPARATION FOR THE 10TH, UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO OFFER THE OPPORTUNITY, UM, RON AND I AND ANDREW, UM, HAVING OFFICE HOURS WHERE YOU CAN DROP IN VIRTUALLY.

UM, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM OF YOU.

UM, SO WE WILL SEND THOSE, UM, OUTLOOK INVITES OUT THEY'RE TEAMS MEETINGS.

THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, AN HOUR AND A HALF BLOCK THAT WE'VE CREATED.

BASICALLY, IF YOU RUN INTO SOMETHING WHEN YOU'RE REVIEWING THE FRAMEWORK AND YOU WANNA ASK A QUESTION, WONDER WHY, WHY, WHY DID YOU DO THAT? OR WHY DIDN'T YOU DO, YOU KNOW, JUST, WE KNOW IT'S A LOT.

SO, UM, THE ONE THING WE WOULD ASK IS THAT YOU RSVP, SO THAT, YOU KNOW, ACCEPT THE INVITATION FOR THE MEETING YOU WANNA SHOW UP AT, JUST SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM OF YOU IN A A VIRTUAL MEETING.

UM, THE OTHER QUESTION IS, WE DON'T ANTICIPATE HAVING A LOT OF, UM, ANALYSIS OR INFORMATION IN YOUR SEPTEMBER 10TH STAFF REPORT FOR THIS ITEM.

UM, AND JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL, WE'LL HAVE SOME IDEAS FOR MAYBE HOW TO ORGANIZE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE RECEIVING, THE, THE COMMENTS.

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BUT WE DON'T HAVE NEW INFORMATION.

WE DON'T HAVE NEW ANALYSIS, SO I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT SO YOU DIDN'T, YOU'RE USED TO GETTING 20 PAGE STAFF REPORTS AND I'M ANTICIPATING THIS NOT BEING THAT STAFF REPORT.

WE GET 130 PAGE FRAMEWORK INSTEAD, .

AND JUST TO REITERATE THE, THE PLUG FOR SUBMITTING COMMENTS IN WRITING BEFOREHAND, THAT WOULD VERY HELPFUL IF, BUT WE NEED 'EM BEFOREHAND SO THAT WE CAN MAKE THEM PART OF THE PUBLIC RECORD.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR THEM.

BEFORE YOUR MEETING ON THE 10TH, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT THOSE.

GREAT CLARIFYING QUESTION.

OKAY.

IS THERE A DATE BY WHICH YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE THOSE COMMENTS TO SO THAT YOU HAVE USUALLY WE SAY BY NOON ON THE DAY OF THE MEETING.

THAT, UH, THAT'S FINE.

I MEAN, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE RESPONDING TO EVERY COMMENT IN THAT MEETING, SO, AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT TO LOOK AT, SO I THINK THAT'S FINE.

DYLAN, DO YOU WANNA WEIGH IN? NO, I THINK YOU, YOU GOT IT, CHAIR? YEAH.

OKAY.

SO BY NOON ON THE 10TH LAST CALL.

OKAY.

I'M GONNA CLOSE MEETING ITEM TWO AND CONTINUE ON.

THANK YOU AGAIN TO HEATHER AND RON FOR JOINING US FOR YET ANOTHER ONE OF YOUR TUESDAY EVENINGS.

AND WITH THAT, WE'RE GONNA MOVE INTO COMMISSION COMMENT AND GO DOWN THE LINE STARTING WITH NICOLA.

UM, I JUST HAVE ONE SHORT THING.

THE, UM, GAZEBO THAT WAS ORDERED FOR THE SENIOR CENTER HAS ARRIVED, HAS BEEN CONSTRUCTED AND IS NOW UP.

AND IT IS GORGEOUS.

WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A PARTY ON SEPTEMBER 23RD.

UM, PLEASE, THAT'S YOUR INVITE.

I DON'T KNOW IF I'LL GET TO ACTUALLY GIVING OUT INVITES TO THAT, BUT IT WAS A MUTUAL PROJECT BETWEEN THE REC AND PARKS DEPARTMENT, UM, THE SENIOR CENTER AND REBUILDING TOGETHER PETALUMA, WHICH MANAGED TO CON A WHOLE BUNCH OF CONTRACTORS AND, UH, OTHER WORKERS TO ACTUALLY PUT IT ALL UP FOR US.

BUT IT'S RATHER NICE.

IT TAKES THAT UNUSABLE PORTION OF A LARGE CONCRETE BACKYARD OF THE SENIOR CENTER AND NOW MAKES IT VERY USABLE FOR US.

EXCELLENT.

DARREN? UH, YEAH, FROM PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE COMMITTEE.

UH, THERE WAS A GREAT REVIEW, IT'S ACTUALLY TWO MEETINGS AGO, I FORGOT IT AT MY LAST UPDATE WHERE BJORN GAVE AN OVERVIEW OF ALL ONGOING, UH, ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION OF BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN PROJECTS.

I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GREAT OVERVIEW, REMINDED A LOT OF WHAT'S GOING ON ON DIFFERENT TRAILS AND CONNECTIONS.

SO I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT THE LAST MEETING WE DID, UH, MORE OF SELECTING AD HOCS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND I WILL LET ROGER TALK ABOUT TREE COMMITTEE.

ROGER.

UH, ALSO I'LL REPORT FOR THE TREE COMMITTEE, ALTHOUGH THE CHAIRMAN IS NOW SITTING OVER THERE.

.

ANYWAY, THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE HAD, UH, SOME DISCUSSIONS.

UH, WE REVIEWED THE TREE PRE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE, WHICH HAS BEEN CHANGED TO TREE REPLACEMENT ORDINANCE A LITTLE MORE POSITIVE.

UM, AND IT'S, UH, COMING ALONG PRETTY WELL.

CAN I ASK, IS THERE A ETA ON THAT? THE THE TREE ORDINANCE? THE TREE THE TREE ORDINANCE.

IS IT, IS THERE LIKE A, A ESTIMATED TIME OF OH, WHEN IT'LL START? UH, IT'S CIRCULATING I WOULD SAY IN ANOTHER MONTH OR TWO.

AND THEN, OKAY, COOL.

WE'VE JUST BEEN HEARING THAT IT'S COMING.

I'M EX I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.

ONE, ONE OTHER COMMENT I SHOULD MAKE.

I KNOW I WAS INFLUENTIAL IN GETTING THE LIGHT STICKS OUTSIDE IN THE, IN THE CITY COURTYARD.

UM, HEATHER, IT WAS A, IT WAS A, I GUESS A LEGAL ISSUE THAT, THAT YOU WORRIED ABOUT.

OH, SORRY.

BUT, BUT HEATHER KNOWS THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION.

TO WHAT? TO WHAT? THE TREE ORDINANCE OR ACTUALLY JUSTIN, OH, MY QUESTION ABOUT THE TREE.

YEAH.

SO IT'S, WOW, THIS MIC IS A LOT LOUDER THAN THE OTHER ONE.

.

YEAH.

WOW.

UH, THE TREE, IT'S THE TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE, BUT WE, UM, CHANGED IT TO THE TREE REPLACEMENT PERMIT, UM, WITHIN THE ORDINANCE AS OPPOSED TO A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT.

RIGHT.

JUST TRYING TO REALLY ALIGN THE LANGUAGE AND THE INTENT.

UM, SO GOT FINAL COMMENTS FROM THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON THE LATEST DRAFT.

AND SO WE ARE GOING TO MAKE OUR WAY TO, UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEN CITY COUNCIL FOR ADOPTION.

WE ARE GOING TO INITIATE SOME PUBLIC OUTREACH, UM, AS WE MAKE OUR WAY TO YOU.

UM, OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE IT ADOPTED BY, UM, COUNCIL BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.

SO IN THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS, WE'LL BE BEFORE YOU.

COOL.

THANK YOU.

SO MY LAST COMMENT IS, I KNOW DYLAN WILL JUMP ON THIS BECAUSE

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IT'S ALSO A LEGAL ISSUE, BUT THE LANDSCAPE IN THE CITY ENTRY, THE WHOLE APPROACH FROM THE SIDEWALK THROUGH THE FRONT DOORS IS VERY DOGGY.

UH, I MEAN, THERE'S A FAILED LANDSCAPE GARDEN, FAILED IRRIGATION SYSTEM.

NO PLANTS, NO TREES.

UH, THIS IS A CITY HALL.

THIS IS WHAT, THIS IS THE IMAGE OF CITY HALL.

I JUST THINK SOMEONE OUGHT TO THINK ABOUT IT.

APPRECIATE THAT, ROGER.

YEAH, I, WE'LL TALK, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE DROUGHT A COUPLE YEARS AGO, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE PAST THE DROUGHT, SO I WILL TALK TO OUR LANDSCAPE TEAM.

OKAY.

ANY COMMENTS, BRENT,

[COMMITTEE COMMENT]

AS A NEW, UH, COMMISSIONER COULD SURE, I CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN SORT OF THE PURPOSE OF COMMENTS AND THE SCOPE OF WHAT I WOULD YES.

SO ANY, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SHARE FROM OTHER MEETINGS THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY BE RELEVANT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, SHARING OUT YOUR REPORT IF, SAY THERE WAS A-G-P-A-C MEETING OR THERE WAS ANOTHER SORT OF, UH, PLANNING ADJACENT COMMUNITY GROUP THAT YOU WERE A PART OF, GOVERNMENTAL GROUP THAT YOU HAVE INSIGHTS TO, UM, AND THEN ALSO A POPULAR PLACE TO PLUG EVENTS THAT WOULD BE RELEVANT TO PLANNING COMMISSIONER OF THE COMMUNITY.

UM, NO, I HAVE, I HAVE NO COMMENT.

THAT'S ALSO FINE.

OKAY.

AND THEN I'LL GO TO MY COMMENT IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO STAFF COMMENT.

UM, A QUICK PSA, WHICH IS THAT THERE'S AN UPDATED COVID VACCINE THAT'S APPROVED AND AVAILABLE AT CVS.

SO I, AS A PROGRAMMING NOTE, AM MASKING BECAUSE I HAD AN EXPOSURE BUT TESTED NEGATIVE TODAY.

SO GO AHEAD AND GET YOUR UPDATED SHOT WHEN YOU'RE ABLE TO.

UM, AND THEN MY MAIN ITEM HERE FOR COMMISSIONER COMMENT, I'M GONNA SHARE TWO JUST PAINFULLY SIMPLE SLIDES IF I MAY.

OKAY.

OH, THAT'S NOT WHAT I WANTED IT TO DO.

HMMHMM, LET'S TRY IT THIS WAY.

ZOOM IS GONNA THWART ME ONCE AGAIN IF I, OKAY.

WELL, WE'LL, WE'LL JUST DO IT THIS WAY AND YOU'LL SEE BOTH SLIDES AT ONCE.

UM, SO WE'RE LOOKING TO UPDATE SOME MEETING FLOW DURING PLANNING COMMISSION.

IT'S A CONVERSATION THAT'S BEEN ONGOING BETWEEN ME, ANDREW, DYLAN, AND URIEL, JUST TO REALLY TRY AND STREAMLINE THINGS.

I THINK, UM, AS I'VE OBSERVED BOTH AS A MEM MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC AND ON COMMISSION, UM, I THINK WE COULD USE SOME BOLSTERING OF OUR FLOW, PARTICULARLY IN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION.

MOST NOTABLY, WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH A PROPER PUBLIC HEARING OR A SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW.

UM, THERE'S GONNA BE AN EMAIL FOLLOWING UP ON THIS, UM, THAT'LL EXPLAIN EVERYTHING IN MORE DETAIL.

BUT AGAIN, MY PRIORITIES HERE ARE JUST TO HONE IN ON OUR SUGGESTED ADJUSTMENTS, CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, UM, AND, AND HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A METHODICAL APPROACH TO THOSE CRAFTING OF LIKE FINAL FEEDBACK.

UM, AND MY PLAN IS TO INSTITUTE THIS REFRESHED FLOW ON THE 10TH.

UM, SO JUST TO DO A QUICK, IT'S NOT GONNA DO IT.

THERE WE GO.

UM, THERE WE GO.

SO JUST THE QUICK BULLETS ON THE STRUCTURE HERE, BREAKING APART SOME OF WHAT WE ALREADY DO INTO MORE DISTINCT PIECES.

SO STAFF AND APPLICANT PRESENTATION, NO CHANGE HERE AS WE ALREADY DO, GETTING THOSE PRESENTATIONS, UM, FROM OBVIOUSLY STAFF AND IF APPLICABLE AN APPLICANT, AND THEN INTO COMMISSIONER QUESTION SIMILAR TO WHAT WE ALREADY DO, BUT ENDEAVORING TO REALLY KEEP THESE SPECIFIC AS QUESTIONS.

CLARIFYING DATA CLARIFYING METHODOLOGY.

I SORT OF PREVIEWED IT TONIGHT.

I WANT THE COMMISSIONER QUESTION SECTION TO ACTUALLY END IN A QUESTION MARK.

UM, AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THAT'S TOTALLY FINE TO PASS, BUT ALL OF THIS IS IN SERVICE OF GETTING OURSELVES TO PUBLIC COMMENT, UM, WHICH OBVIOUSLY WE LOST OUR PUBLIC COMMENTERS TONIGHT BECAUSE COMMISSIONER QUESTION WENT ON SO LONG.

SO GETTING OURSELVES TO PUBLIC COMMENT, WHICH WILL AGAIN LOOK VERY SIMILAR TO HOW WE ALREADY DO IT THOUGH, UM, SEEKING TO COLLECT THOSE PUBLIC QUESTIONS SINCE IT IS A ONE-WAY CONVERSATION.

AND, UH, HOPEFULLY ALONG WITH THE VICE CHAIR, I AND THE VICE CHAIR WILL BE COLLECTING THOSE SPECIFIC DIRECT QUESTIONS TO THEN AT THE END, ASK OF STAFF AND THE APPLICANT.

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UM, AND THEN COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION IS REALLY WHERE THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD IN THAT IT'LL ALLOW US TO HAVE A DISCUSSION .

UM, I THINK A LOT OF WHAT I'VE OBSERVED IS A STRUGGLE BETWEEN THE, YOU KNOW, SORT OF RESTRICTIONS OF THE BROWN ACT IN WHICH WE AREN'T ALLOWED TO HAVE ANY DELIBERATION OFF THE DEUS, BUT THEN SORT OF FINDING THAT TIME TO REALLY BE A DELIBERATIVE BODY UP HERE.

SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION AND LET US HAVE A LOT MORE BACK AND FORTH TO SEE WHAT IS RISING TO THE TOP TO SEE WHAT IS ON THE LEVEL OF AN ACTUAL AMENDMENT OR A CONDITION OF APPROVAL, WHICH WILL THEN WORDSMITH IN SECTION FIVE, AGAIN, FAR MORE DELIBERATELY GETTING OUR FINAL FEEDBACK AND AMENDMENTS OR CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF MEETING ITEM TOGETHER.

AND THEN CLOSING IT OUT WITH A SIMPLE MOTION WITH THE AMENDMENTS.

UM, SO AGAIN, THERE'S AN EMAIL COMING THAT'LL HAVE A LOT MORE SPECIFICS ABOUT HOW I'M HOPING THIS WILL FLOW, AND I'M SURE WE WILL CONTINUE TO ITERATE IT.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A LITTLE PREVIEW OF THAT EMAIL THAT'S HEADED TO YOU SOON.

AND THAT, UM, WAS MY COMMENT OVER TO

[STAFF COMMENT]

STAFF COMMENT.

GREAT.

THANK YOU CHAIR.

UH, I ALSO HAVE JUST A SHORT SLIDE PRESENTATION.

UM, WE HAD, UH, THE CHAIR HAD ASKED US TO PUT, TO REVIEW RENA NUMBERS AND TO, UH, LOOK AT SOME HOUSING PRODUCTION ACTIVITY THAT'S BEEN GOING ON.

I THINK IT IS REALLY HELPFUL BECAUSE, UH, WELL, FOR TWO REASONS.

FIRST, WE CONTINUE TO SEE STREAMLINING MEASURES THAT ARE BEING ADOPTED BY THE STATE.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YOU DON'T SEE HOUSING PROJECTS COME BEFORE YOU, OR YOU MAY NOT SEE THEM THROUGH A, A, UH, DISCRETIONARY ACTION, BUT MORE AS A SORT OF INFORMATIONAL, UH, PRESENTATION.

SO IT'S, IT'S GOOD TO CHECK IN AND SEE WHERE WE'RE AT WITH HOUSING, UH, PRODUCTION, UH, FROM TIME TO TIME.

THE SECOND REASON IS BECAUSE, UM, I THINK WE'LL AS WE'LL SEE IN THESE, THESE FEW SLIDES, WE'RE GOING TO SEE SOME OF THE IMPACTS OF THE ECONOMY.

AND WE ALWAYS NEED TO BE COGNIZANT OF, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST THE FACT THAT THE HOUSING PRODUCTION IS MARKET RELATED, RIGHT? AND SO THERE, THERE ARE FACTORS BEYOND PETALUMA THAT WILL AFFECT HOUSING PRODUCTION, UH, LENDING, UM, YOU KNOW, COST AND SO FORTH.

AND WE ALWAYS NEED TO BE AWARE OF THAT.

SO SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU'RE GETTING QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THIS PROJECT, WHY AREN'T THEY, YOU KNOW, BUILDING IT, UM, AND SUCH, THERE'S OFTENTIMES FACTORS THAT ARE BEYOND OUR CONTROL AND IT'S HELPFUL TO BE REMINDED OF THOSE.

SO, UM, TO GIVE A BIT OF CONTEXT THEN, UH, THE ARENA NUMBERS, THE, THE CITY IS REQUIRED TO PRODUCE 1,910 UNITS OF HOUSING BETWEEN NOW AND 2031.

UM, SO THAT'S PART OF THE SIX CYCLE HOUSING ELEMENT THAT WAS ADOPTED LAST YEAR.

UH, IT SAYS, UM, ADOPTED DECEMBER, 2021, BUT I, I BELIEVE THAT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED.

BUT ANYWAY, IT'S, IT'S OUR CURRENT CYCLE, SO THE TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS, AND THEN WE SEE THE BREAKDOWN, THE PERCENTAGES OF, UM, THOSE UNITS THAT DO NEED TO BE, UM, INCOME RESTRICTED VERSUS, UM, WHAT WOULD THEN BE MARKET RATE.

SO I WANTED TO ORIENT SOME OF THESE COMMENTS ABOUT THE 2023 ACTIVITY AROUND PROJECTS.

SO, SO THESE ARE THE PRIMARY PROJECTS THAT ARE CONTRIBUTING TO, UM, HOUSING PRODUCTION ACTIVITY IN 2023, TRIPOINT RIVERFRONT, WHICH IS IN PHASE THREE, UH, AND IS ACTUALLY CONCLUDING PHASE THREE.

THE, UH, THE DUPLEXES THAT ARE, UM, CLOSER TO 1 0 1 ARE A DIFFERENT PROJECT.

AND SO WHEN WE DO TALK ABOUT THE TRI POINT RIVERFRONT PROJECT AND ITS PHASES, UM, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, UH, THE, THE BUILD OUT OF THE DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY.

THEN, UH, RIVERBEND, WHICH IS COMPLETING CONSTRUCTION OVER AT 5 29 MADISON QUARRY HEIGHTS, WHICH IS COMPLETING CONSTRUCTION.

UH, I BELIEVE WE HAVE VERY FEW UNITS LEFT, UH, UM, TO, UH, COMPLETE IN QUARRY HEIGHTS, MCKENNA, WHICH IS ALSO COMPLETING CONSTRUCTION, THE MID PEN, WHAT WE REFER TO AS THE MID PEN AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT, WHICH WAS, UH, RECENTLY RECEIVED ITS CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY AND I BELIEVE IS FULLY TENANTED NOW AT FOUR 14 PETALUMA BOULEVARD NORTH, THE LAVIA PROJECT, FORMERLY NORTH RIVER APARTMENTS, AND THEN BURBANK HOUSINGS RIVER PLACE, WHICH IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT 16 0 1 PETALUMA BOULEVARD SOUTH AS, UH, AS YOU HEAD OUT OF TOWN.

SO I'M NOT GOING TO IT, I DON'T THINK THERE'S VALUE IN PUTTING SPECIFIC NUMBERS TO THESE PROJECTS, BUT IT'S HELPFUL TO

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SORT OF ROLL THROUGH THESE PROJECTS AND THINK ABOUT SOME OF THEM WHICH HAVE HAD VERY LONG TRAJECTORIES IN TERMS OF ENTITLEMENT AND DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, FIVE PLUS YEARS.

AND SO THAT DOES GIVE US A SENSE OF HOW THE DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY HAPPENS.

AND, AND AGAIN, OFTENTIMES, UH, THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU RECEIVE AND, AND THE ISSUES THAT PROJECTS ARE FACING ARE UNRELATED TO CITY PERMITTING PROCESSES, RIGHT? THEIR FACTORS, AGAIN, THAT, THAT DEVELOPERS ARE DEALING WITH THAT ARE VERY UNRELATED TO WHAT'S HAPPENING IN TERMS OF, UM, PERMIT REVIEW.

SO THEN WE'LL HEAD ON TO BUILDING PERMITS ISSUED BY AFFORDABILITY.

AGAIN, THIS IS, UM, 2023 PERMITS THAT HAVE BEEN ISSUED.

UM, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT CONSTRUCTION'S COMPLETE, SO TOTAL AND NUMBER OF UNITS IS, UH, 251.

WE CAN SEE THAT, UM, THE LOWER LEVELS OF, OF, UM, INCOME RESTRICTION.

WE'VE GOT, UH, 25 AND 25 ON LOW AND VERY LOW, THOSE 25, 25 NUMBERS, OR THAT 50 IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE REFERRING TO THE RIVER PLACE PROJECT, UM, SINCE MID PEN DID COMPLETE CONSTRUCTION THIS YEAR.

AND THEN THE ABOVE MODERATE, WE SEE THAT A, A MAJORITY OF THE, UM, DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO BE FOR ABOVE MODERATE INCOME HOUSEHOLDS.

THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO TAKING A QUICK LOOK AT THE VARIOUS TYPES OF HOUSING THAT WE PRODUCE, SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED, UM, DUPLEXES, OR MORE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED.

THEN WE GET INTO SOME MULTI-UNIT, TWO TO FOUR UNITS PER STRUCTURE, UH, OR FIVE PLUS UNITS PER STRUCTURE, WHICH ARE A LARGER MULTI-FAMILY.

WE ALSO INCLUDE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT AND, UM, MOBILE HOMES OR MANUFACTURED HOMES.

AND SO THERE AGAIN, WE CAN SEE THAT THE LEVELS OF ACTIVITY PERMITTING ACTIVITY IN, UH, 2023 VERSUS PROJECTS THAT WERE COMPLETED AND RECEIVED THEIR, UM, CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY.

UM, I THINK IT'S INTERESTING TO NOTE HERE, ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT, WE MONITOR THAT VERY CLOSELY.

UM, I THINK WHAT, WHAT THE, YOU KNOW, THE STATE HAS REALLY, REALLY, UM, FACILITATED ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT DEVELOPMENT, AND THERE CONTINUE TO BE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHY ARE WE NOT SEEING LEVELS OF A DU DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY THAT WE EX I THINK THAT THE STATE EXPECTED TO SEE, ESPECIALLY WITH THIS LAST ROUND OF LEGISLATION, THERE'S A VARIETY OF FACTORS.

UM, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE CONSTRUCTING A SMALLER SQUARE FOOTAGE STILL, THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS ARE, ARE OFTENTIMES MARKET RATE CONSTRUCTION COSTS.

SO JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE CONSTRUCTING A SMALLER UNIT, IT, IT DOES COST LESS, BUT THERE'S STILL COST ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

I ALSO THINK THAT WE HAVE TO BE SENSITIVE TO THE FACT THAT MUCH OF OUR LOW DENSITY SUBURBAN DEVELOPMENT FROM THE SIXTIES AND SEVENTIES, GIVEN THE LOT SIZE AS WELL AS THE PLACEMENT OF THE PRIMARY DWELLING UNIT ON THE LOT, IT REALLY PRECLUDES CONSTRUCTION OF AN A DU.

SO WHILE YOU SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE X NUMBER OF SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED, UM, LOTS IN YOUR CITY THAT THEREFORE IN THEORY COULD RECEIVE AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT, THE REALITY IS THE NATURE OF THOSE, THE DEVELOPMENT ON THOSE LOTS REALLY PRECLUDES ADDING, UH, AN A DU IN A MEANINGFUL WAY.

SO I THINK THERE'S SOME, SOME FACTORS OUT THERE JUST, UH, THAT ARE, ARE MODERATING A DU DEVELOPMENT.

UM, BUT WE CONTINUE TO PURSUE IT.

WE CONTINUE TO SEEK TO, UM, FIND WAYS TO INCENTIVIZE IT IN THIS FALL COMING FORWARD.

WE'LL BE, UH, ON A PRE-APPROVED A DU, UM, PROGRAM THAT WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW, WE ARE REQUIRED BY THE STATE TO DEVELOP SUCH A PROGRAM AND TO, UM, IMPLEMENT IT.

THEN ANOTHER INTERESTING FACTOR, I THINK DIRECTLY RELATED TO, UH, THIS EVENING'S DISCUSSION ABOUT THE LAND USE, UH, FRAMEWORK, THE FACT THAT THAT THIS IS ALL CONSIDERED INFILL DEVELOPMENT, THAT THAT CONCEPT OF, OF GREENFIELD DEVELOPMENT IS REALLY GONE.

UM, YOU KNOW, AS, AS A SORT OF PLANNING, YOU KNOW, TYPOLOGY, UM, PARTICULARLY IN PETALUMA BECAUSE OF THE URBAN GROWTH BOUNDARY, ONE MIGHT ARGUE THAT THE, THE CREEKWOOD PROJECT, WHICH THE DRAFT EIR IS OUT FOR REVIEW RIGHT NOW AND WILL BE COMING BEFORE YOU ON SEPTEMBER 10TH, ONE COULD ARGUE THAT THAT'S GREEN FILLED, BUT, UM, I THINK IT COULD ALSO BE CONSIDERED INFILL.

SO THEN, UH, LET'S GO ON QUICKLY THEN ON TOTAL NUMBER, THIS IS WHERE WE REALLY START TO SEE, I THINK, THE IMPACTS OF THE ECONOMY IN 2023, AS WELL AS CONSTRUCTION COSTS AND RENTS IN NORTH BAY RELATIVE TO THE REST OF THE BAY AREA.

WE HAD VERY LITTLE ACTIVITY IN TERMS OF HOUSING,

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UM, APPLICATION, UM, PROJECTS, AND THEN AGAIN, UH, VERY LITTLE ACTIVITY IN TERMS OF SB 35 STREAMLINING APPLICATIONS.

I DO WANNA POINT OUT, EAST WASHINGTON AVENUE WOULD WILL BE AN SB 35 PROJECT, BUT IT'S STILL IN A LETTER OF INTENT.

SO THE, THE SB 35 APPROACH NOW IS A PROJECT HAS TO SUBMIT A LETTER OF INTENT THAT TRIGGERS A TRIBAL CONSULTATION.

TRIBAL CONSULTATION THEN CONTINUES UNTIL THE TRIBE CLOSES CONSULTATION.

SO, WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN TRIBAL CONSULTATION THAT WE DO UNDER DISCRETIONARY ENTITLEMENT PROJECTS.

AND SO THAT DOES, DOES HAVE AN EFFECT OR CAN HAVE AN EFFECT ON A PROJECT'S TIMELINE FOR AN SB 35 PROJECT.

IT IS AFFECTING THE EAST WASHINGTON AVENUE PROJECT.

THEY'VE BEEN IN TRIBAL CONSULTATION FOR, I BELIEVE, ALMOST A YEAR NOW.

UM, BUT IT DOES SEEM LIKE IN, UH, THE LATTER PART OF 2024, THEY'LL WE'LL BE ABLE TO CONCLUDE CONSULTATION AND THEN THEY'LL MOVE TO AN SB 35.

SO WHERE WE USED TO DROP, YOU KNOW, THE TERM SB 35, SB 30 30, AND WE WERE DONE WITH IT, WE'RE STARTING TO SEE A LOT OF NUANCES TO THE LEGISLATION THAT'S COMING DOWN THAT WE REALLY NEED TO BE REMINDED OF AND, AND I THINK EXPLAIN AS PART OF, UM, HOUSING ACTIVITY AND WHAT WE EXPECT FROM IT.

SO THEN MOVING ON TO, UH, UNITS CONSTRUCTED SB 35 STREAMLINING PERMITS.

THAT'S WHERE WE SEE THE, UM, THE RIVER PLACE PROJECT, UH, AT 16 0 1 PETALUMA BOULEVARD SOUTH.

THAT IS OUR ONLY SB 35 PROJECT AT PRESENT.

THEN, UM, WE GO DOWN TO STREAMLINING PROVISIONS, UM, THAT WERE USED FOR PERMITTED UNITS, AND, AND WE SEE, AGAIN, JUST THE SB 35, A LOT OF THESE DATA ARE SLICED AND DICED ACCORDING TO HCD REPORTING REQUIREMENTS.

SO SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW VERY CAREFULLY, UH, WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE AND WHAT WE'RE REPORTING ON.

UM, WE ARE, WE ARE ADDING, UM, WE'RE MAKING A BIT OF CHANGE TO OUR DATA COLLECTION AND DATA MANAGEMENT PROCESSES SO THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE MORE DATA TO, TO, UH, PLAY WITH AND TO BE ABLE TO REPORT OUT DIFFERENTLY FOR DIFFERENT AUDIENCES.

AND THAT WILL BE COMING FORWARD THIS FALL.

THEN, UM, DENSITY BONUS APPLICATIONS.

WE DID HAVE, UH, ONE PROJECT THAT WAS A DENSITY BONUS APPLICATION IN 2023, AND THAT WAS THE TWO VENA PROJECT, WHICH YOU REVERT REVIEWED, UM, EARLIER THIS YEAR.

AND, UH, THEN AGAIN, WHEN WE LOOK AT HOUSING ELEMENT PROGRAMS IMPLEMENTED AND SITES REZONED, AS I THINK YOU RECALL, WHEN WE REVIEWED THE HOUSING ELEMENT, IT DID NOT REQUIRE ANY REZONINGS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO, UM, IDENTIFY OPPORTUNITY SITES THAT WOULD MEET OUR ARENA REQUIREMENT.

SO THERE WERE NO REZONINGS, BUT PROGRAMS IMPLEMENTED.

UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 118 DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT HAVE EITHER BEEN ONGOING OR ARE BEING IMPLEMENTED IN RESPONSE TO THE HOUSING ELEMENT.

SO FROM THERE, I WANTED TO SHIFT OVER TO A QUICK SNAPSHOT OF 2024 PROJECT ACTIVITY.

UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S BEEN VERY BUSY IN 2024.

WE HAD A NICE BIT OF A BREAK IN IN AUGUST OVER THE PAST MONTH, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, YOU'RE VERY BUSY.

BUT IF YOU NOTICE A, A MAJORITY OF THAT ACTIVITY WAS GENERAL PLAN WORK AND, UH, REVIEWING THE FRAMEWORKS AND SO FORTH.

WE HAD VERY LITTLE ACTIVITY IN TERMS OF HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.

SO OYSTER COVE, WHICH RECEIVED ITS, UH, PHASE ONE ENTITLEMENTS IN 2023, WE DON'T CONSIDER THAT TO BE AN ENTITLED PROJECT BECAUSE, UH, IT DOES REQUIRE SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW.

UH, YOU PROVIDED A STUDY SESSION REVIEW OF IT EARLIER IN THE YEAR.

UH, WE DO HAVE THE SPAR APPLICATION BEFORE US, AND THAT IS UNDERGOING REVIEW.

THE TWO VENA SPAR, UH, APPLICATION YOU REVIEWED AND APPROVED EARLIER THIS YEAR.

UM, I THINK YOU'LL RECALL THAT PROJECT 1221 PETALUMA BOULEVARD NORTH WAS A PRE-APPLICATION STUDY SESSION.

UH, WE DO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM TO RECEIVE, UH, THOSE APPLICATIONS FOR THAT PROJECT.

I THINK, UH, IF WE RECALL THERE, THAT CONSISTS OF A GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT, A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT REZONING, AND THEN OF COURSE SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW.

AND THEN FINALLY SCOTT RANCH RESIDENTIAL SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW THAT SIMILARLY, THAT PROJECT HAD PHASE ONE ENTITLEMENTS, UH, WHEN IT COMPLETED ITS SPAR REVIEW THIS YEAR, THEN THAT WRAPS UP ITS ENTITLEMENTS.

SO THEN FOR 2024

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WILL BE COUNTING THOSE UNITS AS, UM, ENTITLED, UH, SO TRANSIT.

ANY QUESTIONS THERE THEN ON, ON HOUSING ACTIVITY? I HAVE A QUICK ONE.

SURE.

JUST BACK TO THAT SLIDE THAT SORT OF SHOWED THE BREAKDOWN OF OUR TWO, TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY ONE, EITHER OF YOUR, UM, THE TYPES, YEAH.

YEAH.

SO IS, IS IT FAIR TO READ THIS AS WE ARE ABOUT A QUARTER OF THE WAY THROUGH OUR ARENA MINIMUM AND WITH SEVEN YEARS TO GO? I, I WANT TO SAY YES BECAUSE THESE ARE 20, 23 DATA AND, BUT I CAN'T SAY SPECIFICALLY HOW THEY COUNT TOWARDS RENA.

OKAY.

SO YEAH, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE THRESHOLD IS FOR RENA ENTITLED VERSUS, UM, PERMITS ISSUED, BUT I'LL CHECK ON THAT AND, UH, AND GIVE BACK TO YOU.

IT LOOKS LIKE, YEAH, COMMISSIONER MIGHT HAVE SOME INSIGHTS.

YEAH.

UM, OUR PRIOR RENA GOAL WAS NOT MET.

DOES THAT DEFICIT CARRY FORWARD? YES, IT DOES.

TO SO IS THAT INCLUDED IN THE 1910 OR IS THERE IT IS, I BELIEVE IT IS INCLUDED IN THE 1910.

UM, BECAUSE THAT DOES REFLECT THE DEFICIT THAT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD.

YEAH.

MM-HMM, , AND JUST WHILE WE'RE ON THE SLIDE, AM I CORRECT IN ASSUMING THAT IT IS MORE STRINGENT THAT WE MEET EACH CATEGORY VERSUS THE TOTAL? SO YEAH, IF WE OVER INDEX ON ABOVE MODERATE AND DO 50% AND THAT THEORETICALLY GETS US TO OVER 1910, WE STILL HAVEN'T HIT IT.

'CAUSE WE, IF WE HAVE TO GET THE 4 99, CORRECT.

RIGHT.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

SO THE SORT OF GRAND TOTAL IS A BIT OF A MISNOMER IF WE AREN'T HITTING EACH CATEGORY.

GOOD TO KNOW.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

UM, AND, AND WE CAN CONTINUE TO, TO DIVE, DIVE INTO HOUSING ACTIVITY.

I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, FIND SOME TIME PERHAPS THIS FALL TO SORT OF REVIEW THE HOUSING LEGISLATION.

UM, WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF FIGURING OUT HOW TO WORK WITH IT AND CATEGORIZE IT AND PRESENT IT.

SO I THINK AS, AS WE GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF HOW TO WRAP OUR ARMS AROUND ALL OF THE LEGISLATION, THEN UM, I DO WANT TO PRESENT THAT TO YOU SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF IT.

IN TERMS OF SEPTEMBER MEETINGS, UM, WE WILL HAVE OUR REGULAR MEETINGS ON SEPTEMBER 10TH AND SEPTEMBER 24TH.

THERE WAS A REASON THERE.

THERE'S, IT IS WITH GREAT INTENTIONALITY THAT WE ARE OFFERING TO SUPPORT YOUR REVIEW OF THE LAND USE FRAMEWORKS IN THE WAY THAT WE ARE THROUGH THE OFFICE HOURS, THROUGH SCHEDULING APPOINTMENTS, THROUGH THIS EVENING'S MEETING AND SUCH.

AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE ON SEPTEMBER 10TH, WE'LL HAVE TWO MEETING ITEMS, THE, UM, PROVIDING COMMENTS ON THE, THE DRAFT LAND USE FRAMEWORK, AND THEN ALSO REVIEW OF THE CREEKWOOD HOUSING DEVELOPMENT DRAFT DIR.

SO THOSE ARE TWO PRETTY BIG MEETING ITEMS AND WE WANNA BE SURE THAT WE'RE FULLY SUPPORTING YOUR REVIEW OF EACH OF THEM.

SO, UH, PLEASE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OF STAFF WHO ARE AVAILABLE FOR, FOR BOTH OF THOSE MEETING ITEMS. AND, UM, SURE.

IS THAT EIR AVAILABLE ON THE PLANNING WEBSITE YET? YES.

YES.

OKAY.

IT'S BEEN AVAILABLE SINCE, UM, I BELIEVE LATE JULY.

SO, UM, WE WILL, WE'LL HAVE THAT, THAT, UH, MEETING ITEM PACKET SHOULD BE PUBLISHED ON SEPTEMBER 3RD.

WE'RE WRAPPING UP THE STAFF REPORT RIGHT NOW, AND THERE WILL BE SOME ADDITIONAL INSTRUCTION TO YOU INCLUDED IN THAT MEETING ITEM.

SO, BUT JUST WANNA MAKE YOU AWARE THAT, THAT, UH, THERE'S A BIT OF WORK COMING FORWARD.

THEN, UH, SEPTEMBER 16TH WEED FOR AVAILABILITY FOR A SPECIAL MEETING, A JOINT CITY COUNCIL PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, UH, THAT WAS INTENDED TO BE THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING REVIEW OF THE DRAFT EIR, BUT WE DID DECOUPLE THAT JOINT MEETING.

AND THEN WE MOVED THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S REVIEW OF THE DRAFT EIR TO SEPTEMBER 10TH.

UH, THE REASONS FOR DOING THAT WILL BE EXPLAINED IN THE MEETING ITEM THAT, THAT YOU'LL RECEIVE ON SEPTEMBER 3RD.

UM, AND THEN ON SEPTEMBER 24TH AT YOUR REGULAR MEETING WILL BE A JOINT MEETING, UH, WITH HCPC TO PROVIDE DRAFT A REVIEW OF THE DRAFT EIR FOR THE DOWNTOWN OVERLAY AND EK AND APPALACHIAN HOTEL PROJECT, UM, THAT, UH, EIR WAS PUBLISHED LAST FRIDAY, SO IT IS AVAILABLE.

AND, UM,

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I BELIEVE TOMORROW WE'LL HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE COMING TO YOU, UH, FOR THAT.

BUT THE SAME THING, UH, WERE STAFFER AVAILABLE TO MEET WITH YOU TO HELP GUIDE YOU THROUGH, YOU KNOW, FROM AS BASIC AS HOW TO REVIEW AN EIR TO, UH, RESPONDING TO QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT EITHER OF THE EI.

SO WE WANT TO BE SURE THAT YOU FEEL FULLY SUPPORTED.

AND THEN FINALLY, UM, FIND BALANCE BEFORE WE GET TO, BEFORE WE GET TO THAT.

SURE, SURE.

DO YOU WANNA PLUG THE EIR WORKSHOP THAT YOU'RE DOING FOR OH, FOR HCPC THAT WE COULD THEORETICALLY JOIN? OH, SURE.

ABSOLUTELY.

SO, SO ON SEPTEMBER 3RD, UM, AS I, AS I THINK YOU MIGHT KNOW, HCPC HAS THREE NEW APPOINTEES.

UH, WE DID DO THE ORIENTATIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING WITH ALL, UM, NEW COMMISSIONERS AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS, BUT WE WANTED TO, UH, DO SOME ADDITIONAL WORKSHOPPING ON THE SPECIFIC REGULATIONS THAT ARE APPLICABLE TO HISTORIC PRESERVATION REVIEW THAT HCPC WORKS THROUGH.

AND SO ON SEPTEMBER 3RD AT 4:00 PM UH, AT THE HCPC MEETING, WE'LL BE HAVING THAT WORKSHOP, WHICH WILL INCLUDE LOCAL, STATE, AND FEDERAL REGULATIONS THAT ARE APPLICABLE TO HISTORIC PRESERVATION REVIEW.

UH, WE'LL TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT SOME OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT GUIDELINES THAT ARE IN PLACE, UH, HERE IN THE CITY.

AND THEN WE'RE ALSO GOING TO DO AN OVERVIEW OF CEQA.

WE'LL GO ALL THE WAY FROM CATEGORICAL EXEMPTIONS TO, TO STATUTORY EXEMPTIONS TO, UH, MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATIONS.

AND THEN WE'LL SORT OF SPEND SOME TIME DRILLING DOWN ON THE EIR, UH, DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, BOTH FROM QUA REQUIREMENTS, BUT THEN ALSO OUR LOCAL REQUIREMENTS.

SO, UM, OF COURSE YOU CAN PARTICIPATE IN THAT SESSION AT 4:00 PM ON TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 3RD, OR THEY'RE ALWAYS RECORDED, SO YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO GO BACK AND REVIEW THAT.

THANK YOU FOR THAT REMINDER.

UM, THEN FINALLY, THE FINE BALANCE, UH, INSTALLATION CELEBRATION IS ON SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 8TH FROM SIX 30 TO 8:30 PM SO, UM, JUST, UH, HEAD ON OVER TO THE H STREET POCKET PARK, UH, FOR SOME CELEBRATORY REMARKS AND, AND THEN THE LIGHTING, UH, WHICH OF COURSE WILL OCCUR AROUND SUNSET.

SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO SEE THAT PROJECT COME TO COMPLETION.

EXCELLENT.

ANY FINAL QUESTIONS AMONG COMMISSIONERS? SEEING NONE, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND ENDURE THIS MEETING AT 8 52.