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          OKAY, WELL, GOOD AFTERNOON 
          [CALL TO ORDER]
EVERYONE. 
          MY NAME IS ANDREW TRIP. 
          I'M THE PLANNING MANAGER AND, UH, STAFF LIAISON FOR THE HISTORIC AND CULTURAL PRESERVATION COMMITTEE. 
          SO, SO WELCOME TO OUR REGULAR MEETING, THE FIRST REGULAR MEETING OF SEPTEMBER. 
          UM, THE, UH, FOR THE FIRST FEW MOMENTS OF THE MEETING, WE'LL GO AHEAD. 
          I'LL, UH, ASK THE CLERK TO DO ROLL CALL. 
          AND THEN, UM, I'LL, UH, INTRODUCE MEETING ITEM ONE, WHICH IS THE ELECTION OF OFFICERS. 
          WE'LL GO THROUGH THE NOMINATION FOR CHAIR AND ELECTION OF CHAIR, AND THEN I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE NEWLY ELECTED CHAIR. 
          AND THEN, UH, THE, THE NEWLY ELECTED CHAIR WILL LEAD ON THE ELECTION OF VICE CHAIR. 
          OKAY, SO THE HCPC DOES HAVE TWO ELECTED POSITIONS OR APPOINTED POSITIONS. 
          THAT IS THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR. 
          AND THOSE POSITIONS WOULD SERVE FROM JULY ONE THROUGH JUNE 30TH. 
          AND THEN, UH, WITH THE FIRST MEETING IN JULY OF THE FOLLOWING YEAR. 
          THEN WE WOULD, UM, DO ELECTION AGAIN FOR, FOR CHAIR OF I AND VICE CHAIR AS WELL. 
          SO IT'S A PROCESS WE TYPICALLY DO. 
          WE HAVE THREE NEW MEMBERS HERE THIS YEAR, SO, UM, IF YOU WISH, FEEL FREE TO MAKE A NOMINATION. 
          WE'LL ACCEPT AS MANY NOMINATIONS AS, AS ARE MADE. 
          UM, SO WE'LL LEAD WITH NOMINATIONS, AND THEN OF COURSE, THE NOMINEES WOULD ACCEPT THE NOMINATIONS. 
          AND THEN WE'LL JUST VOTE AS A COMMITTEE, UH, UP OR DOWN ON, UH, ONE OR MORE NOMINATIONS. 
          UH, AND WE'LL DO THAT FOR BOTH OF THE POSITIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UH, YOU, ARIEL, IF YOU'D LIKE TO TAKE ROLL CALL COMMITTEE. 
          COMMITTEE MEMBER BARCLAY SAXON, PRESENT COMMITTEE MEMBER LOPEZ. 
          PRESENT COMMITTEE, COMMITTEE MEMBER PIT AND GAR PRESENT COMMITTEE MEMBER WHITLEY. 
          PRESENT. 
          WE HAVE A QUORUM. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND SO THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND, UH, INTRODUCE MEETING ITEM ONE. 
          SORRY, ANDREW, I SKIPPED COMMITTEE MEMBER JENSEN PRESENT. 
          APOLOGIZE. 
          NO WORRIES. 
          I'M GLAD YOU CAUGHT THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND, UH, INTRODUCE MEETING ITEM ONE, ELECTION OF OFFICERS. 
          I'VE ALREADY BRIEFLY DESCRIBED WHAT THAT INCLUDES. 
          SO, UH, I'LL GO AHEAD AND ASK THEN THE COMMITTEE FOR A NOMINATION OR NOMINATIONS TO CHAIR. 
          YES. 
          UH, I'D NOMINATE, UH, COMMITTEE MEMBER WHITLEY FOR CHAIR. 
          GREAT, THANK YOU. 
          AND DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, COMMITTEE MEMBER WHITLEY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ACCEPT THAT NOMINATION? I'LL ACCEPT THAT. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN LET'S GO AHEAD AND, UM, IF I COULD HAVE A MOTION TO VOTE AND A SECOND I WOULD MOVE TO APPOINT, UH, COMMITTEE MEMBER WHITLEY AS, UH, CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMISSION. 
          I SECOND THAT VOTE. 
          GREAT, THANKS. 
          SO WE HAVE A, A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE MOTION AND JURY, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A ROLL CALL. 
          VOTE PLEASE. 
          COMMITTEE MEMBER BARCLAY SAXON IS YES. 
          THE APPROPRIATE  YES. 
          COMMITTEE MEMBER LOPEZ? YES. 
          YES. 
          COMMITTEE MEMBER OF PIT GAR? YES. 
          COMMITTEE MEMBER WHITLEY? YES. 
          COMMITTEE MEMBER JENSEN? YES, IT IS, UH, APPROVED. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO, UH, WELCOME TO THE CHAIR POSITION. 
          THANK YOU, MR. WHITLEY. 
          AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TURN THE MEETING OVER TO YOU THEN FOR THE, UH, REST OF TODAY'S AGENDA. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS, UH, REQUESTING NOMINATIONS FOR VICE CHAIR. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY NOMINATIONS FROM COMMITTEE MEMBERS? I NOMINATE MEMBER PITT AND G**O. 
          ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I'D LIKE TO REQUEST A MOTION TO VOTE. 
          DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I MOTION TO VOTE. 
          AND A SECOND? I SECOND THE MOTION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, CAN WE GET A ROLL CALL VOTE FROM THE CLERK COM COMMITTEE MEMBER BARCLAY SAXON? YES. 
          COMMITTEE MEMBER LOPEZ? YES. 
          COMMITTEE MEMBER PGA? YES. 
          COMMITTEE MEMBER JENSEN? YES. 
          CHAIR WHITLEY? YES, IT'S APPROVED. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S, UM, THAT CLOSES MEETING ITEM NUMBER ONE. 
          LET'S CONTINUE WITH THE AGENDA. 
          SO THE NEXT ITEM IS, UH, GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          DURING THE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON ITEMS OF PUBLIC INTEREST THAT ARE WITHIN THE HCPC SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION, AND THAT ARE NOT LISTED ON THE CURRENT AGENDA. 
          PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED UP TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON, DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF PERSONS WISHING 
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TO ADDRESS THE HCPC. 
          UM, TIME WILL BE ALLOTTED IN EQUAL SHARES TOTALING NO MORE THAN 15 MINUTES. 
          UM, DO WE HAVE ANY, UH, SPEAKERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD FOR GENERAL COMMENTS? UH, DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS RECEIVED? WE RECEIVED NO, UH, GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING? OKAY. 
          UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY IN PERSON PUBLIC SPEAKERS? NOPE. 
          KAYLA CLOSES GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          THEN, UH, NEXT WE HAVE PRESENTATIONS. 
          UH, THERE ARE NO PRESENTATION ITEMS ON THE AGENDA TODAY. 
          SO THAT CLOSES THAT MEETING ITEM. 
          UM, NEXT WE HAVE 
          [APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. 
          THIS IS MEETING ITEM NUMBER TWO, APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR THE MEETING OF AUGUST 6TH, 2024. 
          UH, DO THE, DO ANY COMMITTEE MEMBERS HAVE ANY AMENDMENTS, UH, OR CHANGES TO MAKE TO THE MINUTES? SEEING NONE? UM, THEN, UH, THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED AS PUBLISHED. 
          UM, THAT CLOSES MEETING ITEM NUMBER TWO. 
          UH, NEXT WE HAVE MEETING 
          [PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION]
ITEM NUMBER THREE. 
          THIS IS PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION. 
          UH, SO MEETING ITEM NUMBER THREE IS A STUDY SESSION, A RECOMMENDATION TO THE HISTORIC AND CULTURAL PRESERVATION COMMITTEE TO RECEIVE A STAFF PRESENTATION AND DISCUSS WITH STAFF THE REGULATORY ENVIRONMENT IN WHICH HCPC CONDUCTS CONDUCTS ITS REVIEW, INCLUDING LOCAL, STATE, AND FEDERAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION REGULATIONS AND LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT GUIDELINES. 
          AND AN OVERVIEW OF HOW ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW UNDER THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT IS APPLIED TO PROJECT PROJECTS SUBJECT TO DISCRETIONARY REVIEW. 
          UH, THIS ITEM IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING AND DOES NOT REQUIRE THE COMMITTEE TO DISCLOSE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATE, UH, COMMUNICATIONS. 
          UM, SO I'D LIKE TO INVITE STAFF TO PRESENT ISABEL CASTELLANO AND ANDREW TRIPLE. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU CHAIR. 
          UM, I WANNA MAKE SURE, JUST GET A THUMBS UP THAT WE'VE GOT THIS UP ON THE SCREEN ON ZOOM AS WELL. 
          OKAY, EXCELLENT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO, YES, THIS IS A, UH, A WORKSHOP ITEM, THE REGULATORY FRAMEWORK FOR HISTORIC RESOURCES REVIEW, UH, BY THE HCPC. 
          AND, UH, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE'VE OFFERED THIS SORT OF WORKSHOP TO THE HCPC. 
          I THINK THAT, UM, WE'VE BEEN WANTING TO DO IT FOR SOME TIME, BUT THEN WITH, UH, THREE NEW MEMBERS, WE FELT THAT THIS WOULD BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO SORT OF GO BACK AND, AND REVIEW THE, THE FRAMEWORK, UM, ANSWER QUESTIONS, SHARE EXPERIENCES, AND SO FORTH, UM, TO KIND OF DO SOME LEVEL SETTING FOR THE COMMITTEE. 
          SO, UH, THROUGH THE COURSE OF, OF TODAY'S PRESENTATION, FEEL FREE TO, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST RAISE A HAND AND ASK A QUESTION OR, UH, FOR OUR, OUR RETURNING COMMITTEE MEMBERS, IF YOU, IF YOU'D LIKE TO DRAW OUT A PARTICULAR POINT, UM, FOR DISCUSSION, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO DO SO. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO THE AGENDA TODAY WILL CONSIST OF A BRIEF INTRODUCTION. 
          THEN WE'LL, UH, REVIEW HISTORIC RESOURCES, UH, WHAT CONSTITUTES A HISTORIC RESOURCE, HOW THOSE DETERMINATIONS ARE MADE. 
          UH, WE'LL LOOK INTO THE REGULATORY FRAMEWORK, UH, WHICH DOES INCLUDE CQA, THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT, WHICH IS A PROCESS STATUTE. 
          UH, ISABELLE WILL REVIEW SOME CASE STUDIES, UM, OF, UH, PROJECTS THAT HAVE COME BEFORE HCPC IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. 
          AND THEN WE'LL PROVIDE YOU WITH SOME ONLINE RESOURCES. 
          UM, AGAIN, I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO SAVE QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSION TILL THE END. 
          WE CAN ENGAGE IN SOME Q AND A THROUGHOUT THE, THE WORKSHOP. 
          I WANT THIS TO BE RELATIVELY INFORMAL. 
          IT'S MEANT TO BE EDUCATIONAL AND, AND INFORMATIONAL. 
          GREAT. 
          SO OUR OBJECTIVES TODAY, WE WANT TO, UH, TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE YOU WITH DEFINITIONS OF HISTORIC RESOURCES, BOTH ELIGIBLE AND DESIGNATED, AND KIND OF SHARE THE WAY THAT THOSE DETERMINATIONS ARE MADE. 
          AND THEN WE WANT TO, UH, EXPLORE THE NATIONAL, STATE AND, UH, LOCAL REGULATORY FRAMEWORKS. 
          UM, PAYING PARTICULAR ATTENTION TO THE LOCAL REGULATORY FRAMEWORK BECAUSE THAT'S THE MOST, UH, FAMILIAR TO US. 
          AND THEN UNDERSTAND, UH, HOW WE EVALUATE FOR SIGNIFICANCE AS WELL AS, UH, MAKE FINDINGS. 
          UH, OUR KEY TAKEAWAYS INCLUDE INCREASING OUR UNDERSTANDING AND AWARENESS OF THE FRAMEWORKS. 
          AND THEN, UM, HELPING TO FACILITATE SKILLS ADVANCEMENT TO EVALUATE PROJECTS AND REVIEW FINDINGS. 
          UH, WHICH ARE THE, UH, ACTIVITIES THAT YOU'LL UNDERTAKE, UH, WHEN YOU'RE PROVIDING DISCRETIONARY REVIEW OF A PROJECT THAT COMES BEFORE YOU. 
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UM, IN TERMS OF, I THINK AS, AS WE'VE MENTIONED IN OUR ORIENTATION, UH, NEW MEMBER ORIENTATIONS, YOU ALSO MAY BE PROVIDING, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL ON LEGISLATIVE ACTIONS. 
          AND SO IN, IN THAT, THEN YOU WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE EVALUATING A PROJECT, BUT YOU WOULD BE EVALUATING A POLICY, UH, PROPOSAL, UH, AND MAKING THAT RECOMMENDATION TO, TO, UH, COUNCIL. 
          AND THEN FINALLY, OF COURSE, OUR GOAL IS TO SUPPORT YOUR DECISION MAKING, UH, MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS AND CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL ON THOSE, UH, DISCRETIONARY PROJECTS THAT WOULD COME BEFORE YOU. 
          SO THE, UM, ALL OF OUR, UH, COMMITTEES, COMMISSION AND BOARDS HAVE, UH, WHAT'S CALLED ENABLING LEGISLATION. 
          AND THAT'S THE LEGISLATION THAT'S ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL THAT ESTABLISHES, UM, THE COMMITTEE IN THIS CASE, HCPC, UH, AND DIRECTS IT TO ACT AT THE, UM, AT THE BEQUEST OF THE COUNCIL. 
          SO FROM THAT ENABLING LEGISLATION THAT WAS ADOPTED, WHICH IS, UH, CONTAINED IN IZO SECTION 15.020, THE COMMITTEE IS CHARGED WITH HEARING AND APPROVING OR APPROVING WITH MODIFICATIONS OR DISAPPROVING PERMIT APPLICATIONS TO DESIGNATED LANDMARK SITES OR STRUCTURES AND TO STRUCTURES OR SITES WITHIN A HISTORIC DISTRICT. 
          SO WE'VE GOT, UM, TWO THINGS GOING ON THERE. 
          ONE IS, IF WE WERE GOING TO DESIGNATE SOMETHING AS HISTORIC OR AS A LAND A LOCAL LANDMARK. 
          SO WE TAKE THAT ACTION THROUGH OUR REZONING PROCESS TO MAKE THAT DESIGNATION. 
          BUT THEN IF, IF A SITE HAS ALREADY BEEN DESIGNATED, IF IT'S, IF IT'S EITHER INDIVIDUALLY DESIGNATED OR IF IT'S WITHIN A HISTORIC DISTRICT, IT IS REQUIRED, UM, TO UNDER UNDERGO REVIEW, EITHER ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW OR REVIEW BY THE COMMITTEE. 
          AND SO THAT WOULD BE APPLIED TO ANY ACTIONS TO CONSTRUCT, ALTER, UH, DEMOLISH REPAIR OR CONDUCT SOME LEVEL OF MAINTENANCE WORK ON A, UM, SITE THAT'S, UH, BEEN ZONED, UH, EITHER AS PART OF A HISTORIC DISTRICT OR DESIGNATED AS A LANDMARK. 
          AND, OKAY, GO AHEAD. 
          AND SO FROM HERE, UM, I WANT TO TURN IT OVER TO ISABEL. 
          SO ISABEL IS, UH, OUR HISTORIC PRESERVATION SPECIALIST FOR THE CITY. 
          UH, SHE WORKS IN THE CITY OF PETALUMA AS WELL AS, UM, A COUPLE OF OTHER JURISDICTIONS. 
          BUT I THINK THAT, THAT, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF JURISDICTIONS THAT DON'T HAVE HISTORIC PRESERVATION SPECIALISTS. 
          SO WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE IN THE CITY OF PETALUMA TO HAVE A DEDICATED HISTORIC PRESERVATION SPECIALISTS. 
          AND, UM, SHE'S WORKING EVERY DAY WITH THESE FRAMEWORKS. 
          SHE HAS EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE OF CERTAINLY WORKING IN THE AREAS OF, UH, SIGNIFICANCE AND INTEGRITY. 
          SO I THINK CERTAINLY ASK, ASK QUESTIONS TO CLARIFY OR, UM, YOU KNOW, DRAW ATTENTION TO CERTAIN POINTS THAT YOU MIGHT WANNA, UH, EXPLORE MORE FULLY AS, AS ISABEL SHARES HER PART OF THE PRESENTATION. 
          THANK YOU, ANDREW, FOR THE INTRODUCTION. 
          AND A PLEASURE TO MEET THE NEW COMMITTEE MEMBERS THIS AFTERNOON AS WELL. 
          UH, AS PART OF THE INTRODUCTION TO GENERAL, UH, FRAMEWORKS TO HISTORIC RESOURCES, WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS A HISTORIC RESOURCE? WHAT QUALIFIES IT, HOW IS IT IDENTIFIED, AND WHERE ARE THEY DESIGNATED? UH, SO WITHIN THIS SLIDE, THIS, IT'S A BRIEF INTRODUCTION OF WHAT IS A HISTORIC RESOURCE. 
          UH, THEY'RE TEMP, THEY'RE USUALLY BUILDING STRUCTURE SITES, DISTRICT OR, OR OBJECTS. 
          AND GENERALLY WITHIN, UH, AGE RANGE FROM 45 YEARS OR OLDER. 
          UH, THE HISTORIC RESOURCES, UH, ONCE IDENTIFIED, UH, CAN BE DESIGNATED ON A NATIONAL, STATE OR LOCAL REGISTERS. 
          AND THEY EACH HAVE THEIR OWN FORMAL DESIGNATION PROCESSES. 
          UM, TO FURTHER EMPHASIZE AND RECOGNIZE THE HISTORIC RESOURCES, THERE HAS TO BE A SIGNIFICANCE, WHETHER IT'S A RESPECT TO AMERICAN HISTORY, ARCHITECTURE, ARCHEOLOGY, ENGINEERING, OR CULTURE, UH, SOME SIGNIFICANCE THAT IS VISUAL, THAT IT'S RETAINED, AND THAT'S FURTHER EMPHASIZED WITHIN THE INTEGRITY, UH, OF THE HISTORIC RESOURCE. 
          AND THERE. 
          AND THE INTEGRITY IS EVALUATED IN SEVEN ASPECTS, UH, WHETHER THEY'RE IN LOCATION, DESIGN, SETTING, MATERIALS, WORKMANSHIP, FEELING, AND ASSOCIATION. 
          UM, AND THROUGH THIS EVALUATION, WE EMPHASIZE WHAT WE EMPHASIZE, WHAT A HISTORIC RESOURCE IS, HOW IT EXISTS, UH, THE AGE AND, AND HOW IT'S FURTHER IDENTIFIED WITH ITS SIGNIFICANCE. 
          AND AS I CONTROL THE NEXT SLIDE, SO FIND MY MOUSE . 
          UH, THERE ARE THREE REGISTERS THAT HISTORIC RESOURCES COULD BE IDENTIFIED AND, AND FORMALLY DESIGNATED. 
          WE HAVE THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES, AND THIS IS AN OFFICIAL LIST THAT ALSO INCLUDES DISTRICT SITES, BUILDINGS, AND STRUCTURES, UH, AT A STATE 
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LEVEL. 
          THEY, THEY HAVE, WE HAVE THE CALIFORNIA REGISTER OF HISTORIC RESOURCES. 
          AND THIS IS MORE OF AN AUTHORITATIVE GUIDE, UH, AND, AND ACTUALLY, UH, IDENTIFIES HISTORIC RESOURCES AT A STATE LEVEL, UH, THAT ARE FURTHER PROTECTED, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEWS AS WELL. 
          UH, AND THE MOST RESTRICTIVE IS THE LOCAL REGISTER WHERE WE CAN HAVE A LOCAL ORDINANCES THAT PROVIDE GUIDANCE TO REVIEWS, UH, DESIGNATIONS AND, AND FURTHER PRESERVATION. 
          WHY DON'T YOU, UM, HEAR OR TALK ABOUT HOW SOMETHING COULD BE ON THE LOCAL REGISTER, BUT NOT NECESSARILY ON THE NATIONAL? UH, YES. 
          AND TO FURTHER EMPHASIZE, THESE ARE THREE DIFFERENT REGISTERS. 
          HOWEVER, A HISTORIC RESOURCE CAN BE DESIGNATED IN ONE OR MORE, OR ALL THREE. 
          UH, THE ONE THAT HAS THE, THE MOST RESTRICTION OR, OR THE MOST, UH, REVIEW IS THROUGH THE LOCAL REGISTER, WHERE THE PROPERTIES WOULD COME UNDER PLANNING REVIEW, BE PRESENTED TO THE HCPC AND MORE, A FORMAL, UH, REVIEW TO A PROJECT. 
          UM, AND THAT MIGHT INCLUDE, UH, HISTORIC, UH, DISTRICT DESIGN GUIDELINES, UH, WHICH I'LL DISCUSS IN THE NEXT SLIDE. 
          UM, AND HISTORIC DISTRICTS ARE, ARE LARGER GROUP OF BUILDINGS THAT ARE FORMALLY DESIGNATED. 
          UH, IT CAN BE A GROUP OF BUILDINGS, UH, OF STRUCTURES OR SITES, AND THEY, THEY INCLUDE A SPECIFIC SPACE OR RELATIVE TO AN AREA. 
          UM, OTHER FEATURES THAT CAN BE IDENTIFIED IN HISTORIC DISTRICT COULD BE THE STREETS, SCAPE AND LANDSCAPE ELEMENTS. 
          UM, AND THERE ARE, ARE COHESIVE, UH, AND UNIQUE TO ITS OWN DISTRICT, OR, OR HAS AN ARCHITECTURAL INTEGRITY. 
          UM, THE WAY THAT HISTORIC DISTRICTS ARE DESIGNATED CAN VARY PER CITY OR PER JURISDICTION, UM, THROUGH, THROUGH A HISTORIC PRESERVATION OVERLAY, UH, THROUGH THE IDENTIFICATION OF A HISTORIC DISTRICT OR A LANDMARK DISTRICT. 
          UH, IT REALLY VARIES DEPENDING ON THE COMMUNITY AND HOW, UH, FURTHER RECOGNIZE AND, AND PROTECT, WHETHER THROUGH, UH, A ZONING CODE, UM, AND HOW THESE HISTORIC DISTRICTS, WHETHER IN THE NATIONAL, UM, STATE OR LOCAL ARE, UM, HAVE A, A SIGNIFICANT CRITERIA. 
          THEY CAN HAVE A AGE OF GRAPHIC BOUNDARY, A DESIGNATION, AND, AND HAVE AN OVERSIGHT FOR PROTECTION, UH, WHETHER THAT INCLUDES DESIGN GUIDELINES, UH, FOR REHABILITATION OR NEW CONSTRUCTION. 
          UH, WITHIN, UH, THE CITY OF PE LUMA, WE DO HAVE FOUR HISTORIC DISTRICTS, UM, AS, UH, IDENTIFIED HERE IN THE SLIDE. 
          UH, THE FIRST IS THE HISTORIC COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, AND IT'S BOTH LISTED IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER AND IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, UH, WITH A, A DIFFERENT BOUNDARY. 
          UH, SO WITHIN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT IN THE CITY OF PETALUMA, UM, THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT INCLUDES, UH, A, A COUPLE OF MORE, UH, CITY BLOCKS, UM, WITHIN THE OAK HILL BREWSTER, UH, DISTRICT. 
          UM, THIS IS MORE DEFINED AS A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, UH, AREA. 
          AND IT EMPHASIZES ARCHITECTURAL, UH, QUALITIES THAT ARE, ARE DEFINED WITHIN RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS. 
          UM, THE TWO SMALLER HISTORIC DISTRICTS ARE THE PALM STREET AND THE EIGHTH STREET HISTORIC DISTRICT. 
          UM, AND THEY ALSO EMPHASIZE A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. 
          UM, AND WITH, WITHIN THIS PRESENTATION, I DO WANNA EMPHASIZE, UH, THE WAY THAT HISTORIC RESOURCES ARE IDENTIFIED, NOT JUST BY THE PROPERTY, UH, BUT IT COULD BE, UH, THROUGH THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE, UH, ITS LOCATION SIGNIFICANCE, UM, AN OVERALL EVALUATION FOR THE PROPERTY EXTENDING, UH, THE OTHER TYPES OF HISTORIC RESOURCES. 
          THEY CAN ALSO BE IDENTIFIED AS LANDMARKS, UH, WHETHER LOCAL LANDMARKS OR STATE LANDMARK. 
          UH, AGAIN, THEY ARE UNDERSTOOD EITHER AS A BUILDING, A STRUCTURE, AN OBJECT, OR, UH, SOME SORT OF RECORD. 
          UH, THE DESIGNATION CAN VARY PER CITY. 
          UH, WITHIN THE CITY OF PETALUMA, THE DESIGNATION IS, UH, THROUGH THE ICO CHAPTER 15. 
          UM, AND THERE, THERE COULD ALWAYS BE SOME ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT, WHETHER THERE IS LANDMARK DESIGNATION STRATEGIES OR CRITERIA. 
          UM, VARIOUS CITIES HAVE EITHER A MORE DIRECT PROCESS OR HAVE A RANGE OF FEATURES THAT THEY WANT TO EMPHASIZE AS A LOCAL LANDMARK. 
          UM, CURRENTLY WITHIN PETALUMA'S LOCAL LANDMARK, UH, WE HAVE A PROCESS THROUGH REZONING AS A HISTORIC OVERLAY. 
          UH, AND IT IS WITHIN OUR ICO CHAPTER AND OUR, AND WITHIN OUR SMART CODE, UM, THERE'S ALSO A CALIFORNIA LANDMARK DESIGNATION, AND THERE'S, UH, DIFFERENT HISTORIC RESOURCES THAT 
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YOU WOULD MEET CERTAIN CRITERIA FOR. 
          UM, AND THEY, THEY'RE ALSO RECOMMENDED TO THE STATE HISTORIC RESOURCE COMMISSION THAT GOES THROUGH A DESIGNATION AND REVIEW PROCESS. 
          UM, AND THEY MEET ABOUT QUARTERLY A YEAR, UH, TO REVIEW AND DESIGNATE. 
          AND THEY ARE AUTOMATICALLY DESIGNATED, UH, TO THE CALIFORNIA STATE REGISTER. 
          UM, SOME, UH, OR THE OVERALL LIST OF THE PETALUMA LANDMARKS ARE LISTED HERE ON THE SCREEN. 
          UH, AND THEY VARY IN ARCHITECTURAL STYLES AND USE, UH, AND IN, IN AND IN LOCATION WITHIN THE CITY. 
          UM, WITHIN OUR LATEST LANDMARK DESIGNATION, IT INCLUDED THE SCOTT RANCH BARN COMPLEX. 
          UM, I, I WOULD LIKE TO SPEND SOME TIME, UH, TO DISCUSS WHAT ARE HISTORIC RESOURCES WHEN THEY ARE, UM, UNDERSTOOD AS ELIGIBLE HISTORIC RESOURCES. 
          UH, THESE ARE PROPERTIES, AGAIN, THAT ARE OVER 45 YEARS OF AGE, UH, AND MAY REQUIRE HISTORIC RESOURCE EVALUATION, WHICH IS A, A PROPER, UH, METHOD TO EVALUATE THE PROPERTY. 
          UH, AND IT INCLUDES EITHER ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO THE PROPERTY OR BACKGROUND AND PROVIDED BY AN ARCHITECTURAL HISTORIAN, UH, OR AN ARCHITECT, UH, FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY. 
          UM, THESE ARE NOT, UM, DESIGNATED PROPERTIES. 
          THESE ARE ELIGIBLE. 
          SO THEY, THEY COULD BE CLASSIFIED, THEY COULD BE FURTHER IMPLEMENTED BY THE CITY OR THE COMMISSION, UH, TO FURTHER DESIGNATE AT A LOCAL LEVEL, UM, WITHIN, WITHIN THE CITIES. 
          AND EXTENDING FROM DESIGNATED, UH, RE AND REGISTERS, THERE ARE, UH, INVENTORIES OR SURVEYS OR LISTS. 
          UH, THESE CAN BE A VARIETY OF, UM, OVERALL LISTS WHERE THEY IDENTIFY HISTORIC, UH, POTENTIALLY HISTORIC PROPERTIES THAT HAVE YET TO BE FORMALLY EVALUATED. 
          UH, THEY'RE NOT DESIGNATED, AND THEY CAN BE CREATED AS A WINDSHIELD SURVEY, UM, EITHER BY A COMMUNITY OR CREATED AND MAINTAINED BY ORGANIZATIONS AND, AND LOCAL JURISDICTIONS. 
          UM, SO THESE ARE JUST GENERAL INVENTORIES THAT COULD COMPILE SEVERAL TYPES OF BUILDINGS THAT MIGHT BE OF INTEREST TO FURTHER EVALUATE, UH, AND TO, TO EITHER DESIGNATE AT A LOCAL OR STATE LEVEL. 
          UH, AND I DO WANNA PAUSE HERE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, UH, FROM THE COMMITTEE IN TERMS OF WHAT IS A HISTORIC RESOURCE? WHAT IS A LANDMARK? UM, WHAT QUALIFIES AS ELIGIBLE HISTORIC RESOURCES? UH, ANY ANY QUESTIONS SO FAR? I GUESS, YEAH, I, UM, I'M, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I REALLY UNDERSTOOD, 'CAUSE IT CAME UP AT OUR LAST STUDY SESSION, AND I HAD LINGERING QUESTIONS ABOUT WHO DETERMINES OR WHO SAYS IT NEEDS TO BE DETERMINED IF SOMETHING IS SIGNIFICANT. 
          LIKE, THAT'S NOT US, IS IT? MM-HMM. 
          . 
          AND IF WE THINK SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE SIGNIFICANT, THAT CAME UP AGAIN AT THE LAST SESSION, AND I JUST, IS IS THAT THE HISTORIC RESOURCE EVALUATION THAT YOU MENTIONED JUST NOW? OR IS THAT A, MAYBE A QUESTION FOR LATER THAT YEAH, I JUST HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS AROUND THAT. 
          I DON'T EVEN KNOW SPECIFICALLY WHAT THEY ARE, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF THEM  THANKS. 
          RIGHT. 
          NO, THAT, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. 
          UH, IN TERMS OF WHEN DO WE EVALUATE A PROPERTY OR WHEN DO WE UNDERSTAND IF IT'S A HISTORIC RESOURCE? UM, SO TECHNICALLY WHEN WE AS PLANNERS RECEIVE A PLANNING APPLICATION, WE EVALUATE, UH, IF THE PROPERTY HAS HISTORIC, UH, SIGNIFICANCE. 
          AND THAT REALLY FALLS UNDER THIS, UM, CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE WORKING APPROPRIATELY WITH, UH, HISTORIC, UM, RESOURCES THAT HAVE YET TO BE EVALUATED. 
          UH, SO IT CAN COME IN AS A PLANNING APPLICATION WHERE THERE IS A SCOPE OF WORK THAT MAY IMPACT AN ELIGIBLE HISTORIC RESOURCE, OR IT MAY ALSO COME UP THROUGH A NEIGHBORHOOD INQUIRY THAT THEY WANT TO, UH, PRESERVE THIS PROPERTY. 
          UH, THEY HAVE INTEREST TO DESIGNATE AS A LANDMARK. 
          UM, IT, IT COULD COME UP AS A GENERAL QUESTION AS WELL. 
          UH, SO A COUPLE, I GUESS ONE EXAMPLE WOULD BE IF THERE IS A PROPERTY THAT IS OVER 45 YEARS OLD, UH, AND THERE'S A QUESTION TO DEMOLISH IT, UH, BECAUSE THEY WANT TO COME IN WITH A LAR LARGER BUILDING, UH, OR COMMERCIAL BUILDING. 
          UH, SO THEN THROUGH THE PLANNING REVIEW PROCESS, WE WOULD EVALUATE AND RE AND REQUIRE OR REQUEST ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT THAT CONFIRMS AND PROVIDES THAT TECHNICAL EXPERTISE TO CONFIRM THAT IT'S NOT AN, UH, IT DOES NOT QUALIFY AS A ELIGIBLE HISTORIC RESOURCE. 
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UM, SO IT CAN COME IN AS A PROJECT, IT CAN COME IN AS AN INQUIRY FROM A COMMUNITY MEMBER. 
          UM, AND THEN THERE ARE PROCEDURES TO KIND OF ESCALATE OR SUPPORT THOSE, UH, DESIGNATIONS. 
          I THINK TO ADD TO THAT, UM, THE EVALUATIONS ARE BEING DONE BY, UH, PROFESSIONALS WHO WORK IN THOSE, THOSE AREAS, WHETHER IT'S ARCHITECTURAL HISTORY OR ARCHEOLOGY, AND THEY'RE PROVIDING THE HISTORIC RESOURCE EVALUATIONS. 
          AND THEN THAT COMES TO, IN THE CASE OF QUA, IT COMES TO THE LEAD AGENCY TO CONCUR WITH THEIR FINDINGS OR, UM, IN A, UM, HAR REVIEW, THEN IT COMES TO US. 
          SO WHETHER WE CONCUR WITH THE FINDINGS THAT THEY'VE PRESENTED, AND IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. 
          SO WE PARTICIPATE IN THAT PROCESS. 
          SO IT'S KIND OF A, UM, IT'S PROVIDED BY EXPERTS, BUT THEN COMMENTED ON BY EVERYBODY IN THE GENERAL PUBLIC INCLUDED. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND IF I COULD JUST CLARIFY ONE MORE PIECE, I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYBODY HELPING ME UNDERSTAND IT. 
          IF, IF ONE PERSON IN THE PUBLIC ASKS IF SOMETHING IS SIGNIFICANT, DOES THAT MEAN THAT IT NEEDS TO BE REVIEWED BY A PROFESSIONAL? IS THAT LIKE, BY THE TIME IT COMES TO US, DOES THAT MEAN THAT STAFF HAS ALREADY DECIDED THAT IT DIDN'T TRIGGER ANY FLAGS FOR THEM? AND THEN A PUB PUBLIC PERSON, AND SORRY, THIS IS VERY SPECIFIC TO LAST MEETING, BUT IT'S MY ONLY CONTEXT FOR THIS DISCUSSION. 
          NO, THESE ARE, THESE ARE GREAT QUESTIONS, AND THIS IS WHY WE'RE DOING THIS, THIS, BECAUSE I SUSPECT THAT THERE ARE QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, BUT THERE'S ALSO MEMBERS IN THE COMMUNITY WHO HAVE PROBABLY WONDERED FROM TIME TO TIME JUST HOW DOES THIS HAPPEN THAT CERTAIN, UM, PROJECTS COME BEFORE I, I WANT TO, UM, I'VE ASKED ISABEL TO PULL UP AN EXAMPLE FROM SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR, AND THIS IS THE RED BARN COMPLEX AS PART OF THE SCOTT RANCH PROJECT. 
          AND I THINK THIS IS A REALLY, UH, INTERESTING EXAMPLE TO SORT OF THINK ABOUT WHEN WE CONSIDER SOMETHING TO BE A LOCAL LANDMARK FOR DESIGNATION, BUT IT MAY NOT RISE TO THE LEVEL OF A STATE, UM, A STATE LISTING OR A FEDERAL LISTING, A NATIONAL LISTING. 
          SO THIS IS, AS YOU HEAD OUT OF TOWN, UM, ON D STREET, YOU'RE HEADED WEST ON D STREET, YOU PASS WINDSOR, AND IF YOU LOOK OFF TO THE RIGHT, THERE'S KIND OF WHAT APPEARS TO BE, IT WAS A, IT WAS A FARM, RIGHT? A HOMESTEAD IN SEVERAL BUILDINGS AND SUCH. 
          AND IT, AND IT HAS A COLLECTION OF BUILDINGS. 
          IT HAS A REALLY BEAUTIFUL VISTA, AND IT REALLY SORT OF CENTERS, I THINK, THIS, UM, AGRICULTURAL HISTORY OF PETALUMA IN THE SURROUNDING AREAS. 
          YOU KNOW, THIS IDEA THAT IT WASN'T FLAT FIELDS THAT WERE CULTIVATED FOR CORN OR SOYBEANS, IT WAS ROLLING HILLS, YOU KNOW, CATTLE GRAZING AND, UH, AND SHEEP AND SO FORTH. 
          SO FROM A LOCAL PERSPECTIVE, IT WAS DETERMINED DURING, THROUGH THE SCOTT RANCH PROJECT THAT THIS WAS AN IMPORTANT VISTA TO PRESERVED. 
          AND, AND SO, UH, AFTER THE SCOTT RANCH PROJECT, WELL, ONE OF THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL OF THE SCOTT RANCH PROJECT WAS TO SEEK LOCAL LANDMARK DESIGNATION FOR WHAT WE REFER TO AS THE RED BARN COMPLEX, WHICH IS, UH, THE COLLECTION OF, OF THREE TO THREE OR FOUR BARNS THAT YOU SEE AS YOU HEAD OUT OF TOWN. 
          SO, UM, THE ANALYSIS THERE CONSIDERED, UH, NOT SO MUCH SIGNIFICANCE AND INTEGRITY. 
          IT WASN'T SEEKING TO, TO UNDERSTAND IF IT WAS ELIGIBLE FOR LISTING AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL, BUT IT WAS AN ANALYSIS ABOUT WHY IS THIS SO IMPORTANT TO PETALUMA AND TO PETALUMA'S HISTORY AND, AND THE NEED TO PRESERVE IT AS A LOCAL LANDMARK DESIGNATION. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHAT THE, UH, THE PROCESS OF COMING TO HCPC IN SEPTEMBER OF, UH, 2023 TO EVALUATE THAT. 
          AND THEN HCPC RECOMMENDED, UH, THE REZONING TO ESTABLISH IT AS A LOCAL LANDMARK DESIGNATION, RECOMMENDED THAT TO CITY COUNCIL, AND THEN CITY COUNCIL TOOK ACTION TO REZONE IT. 
          SO IN DOING SO, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO PROTECT IT. 
          UM, THERE WERE CERTAIN THERE WAS A, OR THERE HAS BEEN A PROJECT THAT WAS PROPOSED AS PART OF THIS. 
          I THINK MAYBE A COUPLE OF THE BUILDINGS MIGHT BE MOVED. 
          THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME IMPROVEMENTS BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, IN ADDITION TO CONSERVATION AND RESTORATION OF THE SURROUNDING OPEN SPACE, THEY, THEY ALSO, UH, SEEK TO USE THIS AS AN, AS AN INFORMATION AND EDUCATION CENTER OR AREA AS PART OF THE KELLY CREEK RESTORATION PROJECT. 
          SO, SO THE, IT WASN'T JUST PROPOSED TO PRESERVE THESE BUILDINGS, BUT THE PROJECT ACTUALLY DID 
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ALLOW FOR SOME IMPROVEMENTS, MODIFICATIONS TO BE MADE TO THE BUILDINGS FOR THE SITE TO BE REARRANGED SLIGHTLY TO FACILITATE WHAT WE WOULD REFER TO AS THE ADAPTIVE REUSE OF THE PROPERTY. 
          AND, AND SO THAT'S, I THINK, REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE OFTENTIMES, IF A PROJECT COMES TO YOU AND, AND IT HAS A CONSIDERATION OF AN HRE, IT'S, IT'S GOING TO INVOLVE SOME LEVEL OF MODIFICATION TO EITHER A, A HISTORIC STRUCTURE OR THE AREA IN WHICH A HISTORIC STRUCTURE IS LOCATED. 
          AND SO WE'RE GOING TO BE ANALYZING BOTH SIGNIFICANCE AND INTEGRITY OF THE EXISTING SITE, BUT THEN WE ALSO ANALYZE WHAT THOSE PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS, HOW THEY MIGHT IMPACT THE SIGNIFICANCE AND INTEGRITY OF, OF THE SITE. 
          AND ITS ELIGIBILITY FOR LISTING IF IT'S DETERMINED THAT IT COULD BE LISTED AT THE STATE OR, OR, UM, FEDERAL LEVELS. 
          SO THERE IS, THERE IS KIND OF A LOT THAT GOES ON IN THERE, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT, WHEN SOMETHING COMES FORWARD, EVEN FOR A LOCAL LANDMARK DESIGNATION. 
          UM, BUT I THINK THAT THAT'S, UH, THAT SIZE JUST, I THINK A REALLY ELOQUENT EXAMPLE OF HOW THAT LOCAL LANDMARK DESIGNATION IS OPERATIONALIZED TO, TO PRESERVE AND PROTECT EITHER STRUCTURES OR, YOU KNOW, IN THIS CASE, A COLLECTION OF BUILDINGS, UM, THAT THE, THE COMMUNITY FEELS IS IMPORTANT, UM, TO PRESERVE FOR ITS OWN HISTORY, UH, AND RELATED CULTURE. 
          AND DOES THAT HELP? YES, IT DOES. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          GREAT. 
          SURE. 
          THE EXAMPLE WAS, WAS WONDERFUL. 
          AND, AND THEN I WANT TO PAUSE HERE. 
          GO AHEAD AND SHARE THIS, BECAUSE I WANTED TO PAUSE HERE AND THEN TALK THROUGH HOW SOME OF THESE LANDMARKS ARE ACTUALLY THEN LISTED ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER. 
          RIGHT? UH, YES. 
          SO AS ANDREW MENTIONED, UH, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF, UH, PROPERTIES THAT ARE LISTED IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER AS WELL. 
          UM, SO THE LANDMARKS HERE ARE LISTED FOR, UH, LANDMARKS WITHIN THE CITY OF PETALUMA. 
          AND THE ONE WITH, UH, THE ASTERISKS ARE ALSO LISTED IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER. 
          UH, SO THERE COULD BE, UM, THEY COULD BE LISTED IN MORE THAN ONE. 
          UM, AND, AND I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THE FLEXIBILITY AND INTEREST AS WELL OF THE PROPERTY OWNER, UH, TO SEEK OUT THOSE FURTHER DESIGNATIONS, WHETHER AT THE STATE OR NATIONAL LEVEL. 
          UH, THE, THE INTENTION, UH, THROUGH THE PLANNING AND REVIEW PROCESS IS NOT TO IMPACT HISTORIC RESOURCES OR ELIGIBLE HISTORIC RESOURCES. 
          IT'S NOT TO, UH, ENFORCE, UH, DESIGNATION, UH, OVER THE PROPERTY, UH, OVER THE, OVER THE PROPERTY OWNER'S, UH, UM, WILL AS WELL. 
          UH, SO, SO IT'S REALLY TO JUST SUPPORT THAT THERE'S NO NEGATIVE IMPACTS EITHER TO HISTORIC RESOURCES OR TO ELIGIBLE HISTORIC RESOURCES. 
          UM, AND AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE LIST, UH, THEY VARY. 
          THEY CAN BE A COMMERCIAL BUILDING, RESIDENTIAL, UM, UH, FOU FOUNTAIN, UH, PIECES WITHIN A STREETSCAPE OR, OR MURALS AS WELL. 
          AND I THINK TO REFLECT BACK THEN ON THE STUDY SESSION FOR 1 98 D STREET, THERE, WE WERE LOOKING AT, UM, THE, THE FIRE STATION, WHICH CONSISTED OF, OF REALLY TWO STRUCTURES, THE ORIGINAL STRUCTURE AND THEN THE ADDITION, UH, THAT WAS DONE IN THE 1970S. 
          BUT ONE QUESTION WE WERE ASKED TO ANALYZE THEN IS THE ELIGIBILITY OF THE PROPERTY FOR LISTING, AND THEN TO LOOK AT THE PROPOSED ALTERATIONS AND DETERMINE IF THOSE PROPOSED ALTERATIONS WOULD HAVE A POTENTIAL IMPACT ON, UH, THE, THE ELIGIBILITY OF THE BUILDING OR BUILDINGS FOR LISTING. 
          SO THAT'S THE PROCESS THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW. 
          WE'LL USE A, A QUALIFIED PROFESSIONAL WHO COULD BE AN ARCHITECTURAL HISTORIAN, UH, OR, OR OTHER QUALIFIED PROFESSIONAL AS ESTABLISHED BY THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR STANDARDS. 
          THEY'LL, UH, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT RFP PROCESS NOW. 
          UH, ONCE, ONCE ONE HAS BEEN ENGAGED, THEN THEY'LL PROVIDE US WITH THAT HISTORIC RESOURCE EVALUATION, UH, THAT WILL CONSIDER THE ELIGIBILITY OF THE BUILDINGS AS WELL AS ANY POTENTIAL IMPACTS OF THE, THE PROPOSED ALTERATIONS. 
          SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE A STORY THAT CONTINUES TO UNFOLD, RIGHT? SOMETIMES ACROSS SEVERAL MEETINGS, UH, DEPENDING ON THE NEED. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S TO SOME DEGREE, THAT IS UNIQUE TO HCPC, UM, AS, AS WE START TO, IT'S REALLY A, A PROCESS OF EXPLORATION AND ANALYSIS THAT SOMETIMES LEADS US TO DO DIFFERENT THINGS ALONG THE WAY THAT WE MAY NOT HAVE ANTICIPATED. 
          UH, AND IT'S A GOOD TRANSITION TO OUR NEXT TOPIC 
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FOR HISTORIC RESOURCE EVALUATIONS. 
          UH, WHAT ARE THE CONTENTS, UH, WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF, OF THESE TYPES OF REPORTS AND HOW ARE THEY USEFUL? UH, THIS IS, UH, A HISTORIC RESOURCE EVALUATION IS REALLY THE DOCUMENT TO IDENTIFY, TO EVALUATE, TO PROVIDE THOSE, UH, RECORDED INFORMATION, UH, OF AN ELIGIBLE HISTORIC RESOURCE, UH, THAT, THAT COULD BE USEFUL EITHER IN THE PROJECT RELATED, UH, SCOPE OR TO, UH, SUPPORT A, A, UH, DESIGNATION FOR, UH, LOCAL LANDMARK. 
          UM, THE, THE HISTORIC RESOURCE, AGAIN, COULD RANGE FROM BUILDINGS AND, AND STRUCTURES. 
          UM, AND THROUGH THE REPORT, IT'LL PRO IT WOULD INCLUDE CONTENTS, UH, OF THE PROJECT DESCRIPTION, UH, UH, A RESEARCH METHODOLOGY AND AN OVERVIEW TO THE LOCATION OF, OF THE PROPERTY. 
          UH, WITH THAT, IT, IT WOULD, UH, PROVIDE AN EVALUATION OF THAT SIGNIFICANCE AND INTEGRITY AND THOSE FINDINGS AND CONCLUSIONS, UH, FOR THE, FOR THE PROPERTY. 
          UH, OTHER CONTENTS, UH, TO SUPPORT THE EVALUATION COULD BE, UH, A DPR FORM, UH, WHICH IS A FORMAL, UH, UH, FORM, UH, TO ALSO EVALUATE FOR THE, THE, THE STATE, UH, REGISTER AS WELL. 
          UH, AND ANY OTHER, UH, ATTACHMENTS, UH, COULD SUPPORT OR, UM, EVALUATE THE PROPERTY. 
          SO THERE COULD BE OTHER, UM, INFORMATION EITHER FROM A CHRIS INVENTORY OR FROM A PREVIOUS, UH, WINDSHIELD SURVEY OR OTHER DOCUMENTATIONS PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED TO THAT PROPERTY. 
          UM, WITHIN AN HRE, UH, THE INFORMATION VARIES, UH, DEPENDING ON THE PROPERTY. 
          AND THERE ARE ALSO OTHER TYPES OF EVALUATIONS, UM, THAT, THAT COULD SUPPORT EITHER A PROJECT, UM, WITHIN OTHER TYPES OF EVALUATION. 
          IT'S, AGAIN, UH, ASSESSING A TYPE OF PROPERTY, UH, OR A TYPE OF STRUCTURE. 
          SO THERE ARE SUPPORTING, UH, SURVEYS AS WELL, UH, THAT ARE INSTITUTED, UH, THROUGH THE HISTORIC AMERICAN, UH, BUILDING SURVEY, ALSO THROUGH FROM AN ENGINEERING RECORD STANDPOINT, AND ALSO FOR LANDSCAPING. 
          UH, AND THESE THREE ADDITIONAL EVALUATIONS, UH, ARE REALLY MORE OF AN INSPECTION OF THE PROPERTY, MORE OF A TECHNICAL DE, UH, DETAILED DOCUMENTATION. 
          UH, AND IT CAN PROVIDE MORE EXTENSIVE INFORMATION, UH, FOR THE, FOR, UH, SCHOLARLY RESEARCH OR, UH, BASIS OF ENFORCING, UH, ADDITIONAL PRESERVATION. 
          UM, THIS USUALLY COMES DOWN TO WHEN THERE'S, UH, THE NO FURTHER MEANS TO PRESERVE THE PROPERTY. 
          UH, AND AN IN-DEPTH, UH, ONSITE SURVEY WOULD, WOULD PRESERVE THE BUILDING, UH, PRIOR TO DEMOLITION. 
          UH, AND THIS WOULD, THIS IS KIND OF THE FINAL OPPORTUNITY TO PRESERVE THAT TYPE OF HISTORY IN A DOCUMENTATION, UM, BEFORE THE PROPERTY'S, UH, ULTIMATELY LOST. 
          UM, SO THERE ARE THESE, UH, LEVELS OF EVALUATION. 
          UM, THE HISTORIC RESOURCE EVALUATION IS, IS REALLY TO SUPPORT, UH, AND EVALUATE, UH, AN ELIGIBLE HISTORIC RESOURCE. 
          AND WE HAVE ADDITIONAL TYPES OF, UM, ONSITE SURVEYS, DETAILED DOCUMENTATION THAT, THAT ARE SELECTIVE TO THE PROJECT OR THE, THE TYPE OF EVALUATION AT THAT MOMENT. 
          UM, AND PRIOR TO, UH, JOIN, UH, JOINING ONTO THE NEXT SECTION, UH, SPEAKING ON REGULATORY FRAMEWORK, UM, I JUST WANNA, UH, PROVIDE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY OF ON QUESTIONS FOR, UH, THE EVALUATIONS. 
          UM, ISABELLE, I HAD A QUESTION, UM, WITH THE HRRE, DO WE HAVE A, UH, DATABASE OR A GIS LAYER, WHICH INDICATES WHICH BUILDINGS HAVE HAD H RRE DONE IN THE PAST? I MEAN, KNOW THE ONES, WE HAVE THE LAYERS THAT IDENTIFY THOSE STRUCTURES THAT ARE ON THE RECORDS, BUT IS THERE ONE THAT SHOWS WHICH ONES HAVE HAD HRVS? YES, WE, WE DO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY ONCE WE HAVE THE EVALUATION TO ADD IT TO THE PROPERTY. 
          AND THIS IS, UH, SOMETHING THAT OCCURRED WITHIN THE LAST YEAR, UH, TO START IMPLEMENTING THOSE, UH, RECENT EVALUATIONS. 
          UM, AND, BUT IT DOESN'T GO INTO THE PAST? NO, NOT NOT INTO THE PAST. 
          UH, THERE ARE THE CHRIS INVENTORY, UH, SEARCHES, UH, THAT, THAT ARE REGIONAL, THAT A HISTORIC ARCHITECTURAL, UM, HISTORIAN WOULD, WOULD INVESTIGATE AND PROVIDE THAT RESEARCH. 
          SO WE'D HAVE TO THE NWIC FOR THAT, RIGHT? IT WOULD BE STATE DRIVEN. 
          UM, THERE'S NO, UH, LOCAL AT THE MOMENT, UH, OKAY. 
          UNLESS WE, WE'VE ADDED IT, UH, WITHIN THE PAST YEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          I ALSO WANTED TO SHARE THAT, UH, IF YOU GO TO THE LIBRARY OF CONGRESS, HISTORIC AMERICAN BUILDING SURVEY WEBSITE, YOU, YOU CAN SPEND HOURS EXPLORING THE, THE SURVEYS, THE DOCUMENTATION FROM JUST THROUGHOUT 
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THE COUNTRY. 
          IT'S, IT'S REALLY, REALLY AN AMAZING, UM, TROVE OF INFORMATION AND, AND JUST BEAUTIFUL, UM, RECORDS FROM THE PAST. 
          SO, NICE THING TO DO IF, IF YOU CAN'T SLEEP ONE EVENING. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, SO I DO WANNA START INTO THE REGULATORY FRAMEWORK, UH, AND INTRODUCE TO THE GROUP, UM, THE FRAMEWORKS FOR THE NATIONAL, STATE AND LOCAL. 
          UH, WE'LL BEGIN WITH THE NATIONAL AND JUMP TO THE LOCAL, UH, AND CONCLUDE WITH, WITH THE, THE STATE. 
          UH, THERE IS, UH, IN-DEPTH INFORMATION FOR THE STATE REGULATORY FRAMEWORK THAT RELATES, UH, TO CQA AND ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW. 
          SO I'D LIKE TO GIVE THAT KIND OF TOWARDS THE END OF, OF THIS SECTION IN CONVERSATION. 
          UM, SO THROUGH THE REGULATORY FRAMEWORK, IT REALLY INITIATED AT A NATIONAL LEVEL, UH, FROM THE NATIONAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION ACT IN 1966. 
          UH, IT WAS THE FIRST AND MOST EXTENSIVE, UH, PRESERVATION LEGISLATION, AND THAT ALSO INITIATED THE SECRETARY OF INTERIORS AND THE, UH, SECRETARY OF INTERIORS, UH, FOR PROFESSIONAL QUALIFICATIONS AS WELL. 
          UH, SO THIS IS AT A NATIONAL LEVEL. 
          UH, AND FROM THAT, IT ALSO INITIATED, UH, THROUGH THE US DEPARTMENT OF INTERIORS, THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE, UM, AND THE ADDITIONAL SUPPORT FOR TECHNICAL PRESERVATION SERVICES. 
          UH, SO ON THEIR WEBSITE, THEY DO PROVIDE A LOT OF TECHNICAL GUIDANCE, UH, SUPPORTING MATERIALS, BULLETINS, UH, AND, AND ADDITIONAL INCENTIVES. 
          UM, WITHIN, WITHIN THE TECHNICAL PRESERVATION SERVICES, THEY DO OVERSEE THE SECRETARY OF INTERIOR STANDARDS. 
          UM, AND, AND IT JUST PROVIDES, UH, A GOOD MATERIAL FOR, UH, USE AND RESEARCH, UH, WHEN THERE IS A PROJECT, UH, THAT MAY REQUIRE CERTAIN GUIDELINES OR CERTAIN MATERIALS OF USE. 
          UH, SO I DO RECOMMEND, UH, LOOKING THROUGH THEIR WEBSITE AS WELL FOR ADDITIONAL MATERIALS. 
          UH, AND LASTLY, WE DO HAVE, UH, THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION, UH, READILY AVAILABLE, UH, FOR THEIR SUPPORT, UH, THROUGH THE STATE, UH, INFORMATION AND, AND GUIDANCE, UH, AND THROUGH THE SECRETARY OF INTERIOR STANDARDS. 
          UM, THIS IS FOR THE TREATMENT OF HISTORIC BUILDINGS. 
          IT IS, UH, CODIFIED, UH, WITHIN THE CODE OF FEDERAL REGULATIONS, UH, WITHIN CHAPTER, UH, 68. 
          UH, AND THIS PROVIDES, UH, OVERALL GUIDANCE WHEN YOU'RE APPLYING THE STANDARDS. 
          UH, AND OF COURSE, IT'S NOT MEANT TO BE CASE SPECIFIC, UH, REALLY LOOKING AT THE PROJECT, UH, THE INTENTIONS, THE SCOPE OF WORK. 
          IS IT, IS IT REALLY, UH, TO REHABILITATE? IS IT TO RECONSTRUCT? UM, IT, IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO WHAT THE PROJECT IS AND THE SITE ON HAND, UH, AND, AND THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE PROPERTY. 
          UH, IT DOES ADDRESS EXTERIOR AND INTERIOR WORK. 
          UH, HOWEVER, ONLY THE EXTERIOR WORK IS REALLY REVIEWED THROUGH, UH, PLANNING ENTITLEMENT PROCESS. 
          UH, AND AS YOU'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH, THE FOUR TREATMENTS ARE PRESERVATION, REHABILITATION, RESTORATION, AND, AND RECONSTRUCTION. 
          UM, WITHIN THIS SLIDE, IT'S A BRIEF DEFINITION. 
          UH, THERE IS MORE OF A, AN EXTENSION OF WHAT QUALIFIES AS PRESERVATION, UH, REHABILITATION, UH, IN TERMS OF THE, THE MAKING, THE COMPATIBILITY, UM, AND HOW TO REALLY CONVEY THOSE ORIGINAL HISTORIC AND CULTURAL AND ARCHITECTURAL VALUES. 
          UM, THE LEAST, THE TWO LEAST, UH, TREATMENTS ARE RESTORATION AND RECONSTRUCTION. 
          THOSE TEND TO BE A BIT MORE COSTLY, UM, AND, AND A BIT DIFFICULT WHEN YOU'RE WORKING WITH MATERIAL THAT HAS BEEN LOST. 
          SO THERE'S A LOT OF RESEARCH INVOLVED, UH, AND THOSE, UH, TEND TO BE THE LEAST USED TREATMENTS. 
          UM, AN EXAMPLE FOR, UH, REHABILITATION FROM PROJECTS WITHIN THE PAST YEAR INCLUDED AMY'S KITCHEN, UH, WHICH, UH, REHABILITATED, UH, COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE INTO A, UM, MIXED USE, UH, PROPERTY FOR AMY'S KITCHEN, UH, FOR, UH, THEIR OFFICE USE. 
          UH, AND, UM, AN EXAMPLE FOR PRESERVATION, UM, NOT, NOT SPECIFICALLY TO, UH, CITY OF PETALUMA, UH, BUT PRESERVATION CAN REALLY ENTAIL TO, UH, PRESERVING A LANDSCAPE, A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, UH, DOWN TO THE ORIGINAL USE OF MATERIALS. 
          UH, SO REALLY PAYING ATTENTION TO THE RE ANY, ANY, UH, REPAIRS, UH, TO THE ORIGINAL USE OF MATERIALS SUCH AS WINDOW FRAMES, UH, ROOFING, UM, IT'S, IT'S VERY EXTENSIVE TO GET THAT SAME QUALITY, UH, FOR PRESERVATION. 
          I, I WAS THINKING WHILE, WHILE EBEL WAS DESCRIBING EACH OF THESE, THAT THE PRESIDIO MIGHT BE A GREAT EXAMPLE OF MULTIPLE APPROACHES BEING IMPLEMENTED. 
          AND I THINK ISABEL, WE COULD DO, YOU COULD DO PRESERVATION, REHABILITATION, AND RESTORATION 
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AT THE SAME TIME, CORRECT? YES, DEPENDING ON THE SCALE OF THE PROJECT. 
          UH, AND, AND AGAIN, THE INTENTION IS TO PRESERVE THE PROPERTY, BUT ALSO NOT LIMIT ITS USE. 
          UH, SO IF THERE'S OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE MAINTENANCE, UH, EXPAND ITS, UH, OPPORTUNITIES, UH, I, IT'S, IT'S WARRANT FOR EXPLORATION. 
          UH, SO IT'S NOT THE INTENTION TO PRESERVE AND DON'T, DON'T USE, BUT ALSO TO, UM, HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY EITHER FOR CREATIVITY OR EXPOSURE TO, TO THE HISTORY AND CULTURE, UH, AND ALSO TO HAVE THAT, UM, CONNECTION WITH, WITH THE, THE HISTORY OF THE, THE SITE. 
          UM, SO AS MENTIONED EARLIER, WITH THE BARN COMPLEX, UNDERSTANDING HOW IT WOULD BE USED, HOW IT WOULD HAVE THAT ATTENTION, UH, AND, AND EXPOSURE, UH, WITHIN THIS, THE PROPERTY. 
          UM, AND, AND JUMPING INTO THE REGULATORY FRAMEWORK FOR THE LOCAL, UH, THIS FALLS DOWN TO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT DESIGN GUIDELINES. 
          UH, SO AS I MENTIONED, WE, WE DO HAVE FOUR HISTORIC DISTRICTS, UH, AND WE DO, AND THAT FALLS UNDER TO THREE HISTORIC DESIGN GUIDELINES. 
          UH, SO IN THIS SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE AN ARRANGEMENT OF HOW THESE DESIGN GUIDELINES ARE, ARE, UM, APPLIED, UH, WITHIN THE HISTORIC COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. 
          THEY'RE VERY, UH, OPEN TO THAT, THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR ARCHITECTURAL STYLE STOREFRONTS. 
          THEY'RE, THEY'RE COMMERCIAL ILL DRIVEN, UH, AND OAK HILL BREWSTER AND A STREET ARE, ARE MORE EXTENSIVE TO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, UH, REALLY PROVIDING, UM, ADDITIONAL DETAILS TO THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLES, THE ARRANGEMENTS, HOW A PROPERTY SITS, UH, WITHIN THE, THE LOT, UH, AND HOW IT, THE MATERIALS, UH, WORKS WITHIN A HISTORIC DISTRICT, MORE OF A COHESIVE OPPORTUNITY, UH, FOR A PRESERVING THE OVERALL CHARACTER OF THE PROPERTY. 
          UM, ONE EXAMPLE, UH, FOR EITHER A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY FOR OCO OR A STREET, UM, THERE COULD BE A REVIEW FOR A PROJECT, UH, WHETHER THERE'S A REAR EXTENSION OR REPLACEMENT OF A, OF A MATERIAL. 
          UM, THESE GUIDELINES HELP FOR DECISION MAKING, UH, WHETHER IT'S APPROPRIATE, UH, TO ITS CON ITS IMMEDIATE CONTEXT, OR IT'S, UH, ON SITE. 
          UH, SO IT COULD BE UNDERSTANDING THE USE OF MATERIALS, UH, THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT, UH, AND HOW, HOW THAT'S FEASIBLE ON IN TODAY'S CONSTRUCTION AS WELL. 
          AND SO, AS PART OF THIS, THEN, TOO, UH, YOU'LL SEE IN THE STAFF REPORTS, REFERENCES MADE TO CONSISTENCY AS OPPOSED TO COMPLIANCE AND SUBSTANTIAL CONFORMANCE. 
          SO OFTENTIMES THE GUIDELINES ARE NOT, UM, EXPLICIT OR PRESCRIPTIVE IN MATERIALS. 
          LIKE, YOU MAY ONLY USE THESE MATERIALS, BUT THEY MAY SAY MATERIALS SUCH AS, AND WHEN WE'RE DOING THAT, THEN WE HAVE TO EVALUATE THE, UH, THE PROPOSED PROJECT FOR CONSISTENCY OR FOR SUBSTANTIAL CONFORMANCE WITH WHAT'S INTENDED IN THE GUIDELINES WHEN WE'RE, WHEN WE'RE DEALING IN THAT AREA, WHEN WE'RE, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING FOR CONSISTENCY, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT'S INTENDED, THEN THAT'S FULL ON DISCRETIONARY REVIEW, RIGHT? SO THERE WE'RE REALLY LEVERAGING YOUR QUASI-JUDICIAL ROLE IN UNDERSTANDING THE REGULATIONS, HOW TO APPLY THEM, AND UNDERSTANDING YOUR POWER TO MAKE DECISIONS, UM, PROVIDED THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO MAKE THOSE FINDINGS OF FACT TO APPROVE OR APPROVE WITH MODIFICATIONS A, UH, A PROJECT THAT COULD PROPOSE ALTERATIONS OR NEW CONSTRUCTION WITHIN A DESIGNATED DISTRICT. 
          UH, AND WITHIN THE CITY OF PETALUMA, THERE IS THAT ENTITLEMENT REVIEW PROCESS, UH, FOR THE HISTORIC SCI PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW, WHETHER IT'S ADMINISTRATIVE AS MINOR OR A MAJOR, UH, HS A R APPLICATION THAT'S PRESENTED AND REVIEWED BY THE HCPC. 
          UH, SO WE DO HAVE THAT DISCRETIONARY PROCESS, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, A PROJECT WITH A HISTORIC RESOURCE OR AN ELIGIBLE HISTORIC RESOURCE, UH, AND PRESENTING THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR REVIEW, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO NEGATIVE, UH, IMPACT TO THE PROPERTY. 
          UM, WITHIN THIS, UH, DISCRETIONARY REVIEW PROCESS, THERE IS THAT, UH, COMPLIANCE, UH, FOR LOCAL ORDINANCES, UH, SUCH AS THE DEMOLITION RESOLUTION OR THE PETALUMA GENERAL PLAN, THE IEO SMART CODE. 
          UM, AND WITHIN THE, THE IEO AND THE SMART CODE, THERE IS A REFERENCE TO THE SECRETARY OF INTERIOR STANDARDS, UH, AND THE, AND THE HISTORIC DISTRICT DESIGN GUIDELINES ARE, ARE REVIEWED, UH, BUT AS ANDREA MENTIONED AS WELL, IT'S NOT TO SEE THAT, 
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THAT FULL COMPLIANCE, BUT THAT FLEXIBILITY FOR THE OVERALL INTENTIONS, UH, TO, TO SUPPORT THE PROJECT, TO SUPPORT THE HISTORIC RESOURCE. 
          UM, AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THAT DISCRETIONARY FALLS, UH, FOR THE HCPC AND, AND STAFF TO UNDERSTAND WHAT ARE THE LIMITATIONS TO THIS PARTICULAR SITE. 
          UM, WHAT IS, WHAT ARE THE LIMITATIONS TO THE CURRENT, UM, CONSTRUCTION? UH, IS THE MATERIAL READILY AVAILABLE? ARE THE COSTS, UH, UM, WITH IT WITHOUT REACH, UM, THAT, THAT HAS THAT, THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR DISCUSSION. 
          UM, AND THE, AND AS I MENTIONED, UH, WITHIN THESE ITEMS FROM DEMOLITION TO THE ICO SECRETARY INTERIOR STANDARDS, UH, WE, WE DO THOROUGHLY GO THROUGH EACH ONE AND PRESENT IT TO THE HCPC, UH, FOR THE MAJOR H SPARS AND, AND HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR DISCUSSION. 
          UM, I DO WANNA OFFER A PAUSE HERE IN TERMS OF QUESTIONS FOR THE NATIONAL OR THE LOCAL REGULATORY FRAMEWORK, UH, BEFORE JUMPING INTO THE, UH, DISCUSSION FOR STATE AND ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW. 
          OKAY. 
          NO QUESTIONS. 
          DO YOU WANT RUNS OUT? OKAY. 
          SO WE'RE GOING TO, UH, SHIFT, UM, GEARS HERE A BIT AND TALK ABOUT THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT, BECAUSE WHEN WE RECEIVE A PROJECT FOR, UH, THAT HAS A RE A DISCRETIONARY ENTITLEMENT REQUIRED, IT REALLY UNDERGOES TWO, UM, REVIEW PROCESSES THAT IT ARE OFTENTIMES SIMULTANEOUS. 
          AND THE FIRST, THE, THE, ON THE ONE HAND, WE'RE CONDUCTING PLANNING REVIEW. 
          SO, AND WHEN WE CONDUCT THAT PLANNING, WE REVIEW, WE'RE LOOKING AT A PROJECT FOR CONSISTENCY AND COMPLIANCE WITH LOCAL REGULATIONS. 
          BUT THEN AT THE SAME TIME, BECAUSE IT'S A DISCRETIONARY PROJECT THAT TRIGGERS ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW UNDER CE A, AND THAT'S THE, UH, STATE, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW STATUTE THAT WAS ENACTED IN 1970, UH, TO PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT FROM POTENTIAL HARM BY DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. 
          IT WAS, IT WAS MODELED AFTER THE NATIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY ACT, UM, WITH A, I THINK, AND, AND CAME VERY, VERY MUCH ON THE HEELS OF THE NATIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY ACT. 
          THE DIFFERENCE WAS THAT THE NATIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY ACT, AND EVEN CE EQUA STARTED OUT AS BEING ONLY APPLICABLE TO PUBLIC PROJECTS. 
          BUT VERY QUICKLY, THEN THE STATE LEGISLATURE REVISED CQA AND MADE IT APPLICABLE TO PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS AS WELL. 
          THAT WAS A HUGE, UH, SHIFT AND DIFFERENTIATING POINT BETWEEN NEPA AND CQA AND, UH, AND SO MADE, MADE CALIFORNIA UNIQUE IN THAT REGARD. 
          SO IT REALLY IS, AT ITS HEART, IT REALLY IS AN INFORMATIONAL TOOL. 
          IT'S, UH, IT, IT, WE CONDUCT A, AN ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW PROCESS PURSUANT TO NOT JUST THE REQUIREMENTS OF CQA, BUT THEN WE ALSO, UH, THE CITY IN 1993, UH, ADOPTED ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW GUIDELINES. 
          UM, THERE ARE COMPONENTS OF CQA THAT DO ALLOW, UH, LOCAL JURISDICTIONS TO ESTABLISH ADDITIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW GUIDELINES AND TO ADOPT THOSE GUIDELINES AND IMPLEMENT THEM. 
          SO WE'VE GOT, UM, WE'VE GOT IT IN DIGITAL FORMAT, BUT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN TELL, OBVIOUSLY IT'S A VERY OLD DOCUMENT. 
          AND, UH, THE LAST TIME IT WAS AMENDED WAS IN 1994. 
          AND, UH, AS WE'LL SEE HERE IN A MOMENT, THAT GIVES US SOME ADDITIONAL WORK THAT WE HAVE TO DO AS PART OF THE LOCAL REVIEW PROCESS IN ADDITION TO WHAT THE STATE REQUIRES. 
          BUT NEVERTHELESS, THE ENTIRETY OF THE PROCESS IS REALLY INFORMATIONAL IN NATURE, AND IT'S, IT'S INTENDED TO ANALYZE AND IDENTIFY POTENTIAL IMPACTS ON THE ENVIRONMENT, PROPOSE MITIGATION MEASURES TO REDUCE OR ELIMINATE THOSE IMPACTS WHERE FEASIBLE, BUT THEN ALSO TO DAYLIGHT THEM SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN SEE WHAT THOSE POTENTIAL IMPACTS MIGHT BE AND WEIGH IN ON, UH, THIS PROCESS OF PROPOSING MITIGATION MEASURES, UM, TO REDUCE OR ELIMINATE IMPACTS. 
          AND SO IT'S, IT'S AS MUCH ABOUT THE ANALYSIS AS IT IS ABOUT THE PUBLIC DISCOURSE THAT HAPPENS AS PART OF, OF THIS ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW. 
          AND SO THEN IT ALSO CAN BECOME A DECISION MAKING FRAMEWORK. 
          AND IN THAT SENSE, UH, IF WE DO HAVE IMPACTS OR ENVIRONMENTAL CONSEQUENCES OF A PROJECT, SOMETIMES THOSE HAVE TO GET WEIGHED AGAINST THE ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL BENEFITS OF A DECISION TO PROCEED WITH THE PROJECT. 
          AND SO WE'LL SEE THAT MOST, UH, MOST TYPICALLY IN, UM, AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT WHERE WE HAVE, UM, SIGNIFICANT, 
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UNAVOIDABLE IMPACTS. 
          AND THEN A STATEMENT OF OVERRIDING CONSIDERATION IS PROPOSED WHEN WE'RE SEEING THAT LANGUAGE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT, UM, SIGNIFICANT UNAVOIDABLE IMPACT STATEMENT OF OVERRIDING CONSIDERATION. 
          WHAT THAT MEANS THEN IS THAT THE, THE, THE LOCAL JURISDICTION IS BEING ASKED TO WEIGH THE BENEFITS OF THE ECON, THE, THE ECONOMIC OR SOCIAL BENEFITS AGAINST THE IMPACT TO THE ENVIRONMENT. 
          SO THAT'S ABOUT THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF DECISION MAKING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO FIND. 
          UH, WITHIN CQA IS, IS, IS ADOPTING, CERTIFYING A FINALLY IR WITH, UM, THAT IDENTIFIES SIGNIFICANT, UNAVOIDABLE IMPACTS, AND THEN ADOPTING A STATEMENT OF OVERRIDING CONSIDERATIONS. 
          AND INTRO, I WAS JUST GONNA GIVE THE EXAMPLE OF THE MOST RECENT ONE, WHERE WAS A EIR SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS WHERE CITY COUNCIL DETERMINED THAT THE PROJECT DESERVED OVERRIDING CONSIDERATIONS WITH SCOTT RANCH. 
          SO SCOTT RANCH HAD SIGNIFICANT, UNAVOIDABLE IMPACTS UNDER CQA FOR VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED. 
          THERE WAS NO WAY TO GET MITIGATE BELOW A SIGNIFICANT THRESHOLD, SO IT WAS SIGNIFICANT AND UNAVOIDABLE, BUT CITY COUNCIL FOUND THAT THROUGH THAT SCOTT RANCH PROJECT, WE GOT 50 ACRES OF NEW PARKS ADD TO HELEN PUTNAM, THE 13 PROPERTIES, ALL THE OTHER BENEFITS OF THE NEW TAX MONEY, UH, HOUSING STOCK THAT OUTWEIGHED THE SIGNIFICANT, UNAVOIDABLE IMPACTS OF VMT. 
          SO THE PROJECT GOT APPROVED. 
          I THINK I WAS THINKING ABOUT INTRODUCING THE IDEA OF STATE, THE STATE STREAMLINING MEASURES, BUT I THINK WE'LL WAIT UNTIL WE GET FURTHER ON DOWN. 
          BUT THAT'S A, THAT'S A REALLY GREAT EXAMPLE TO KEEP IN MIND. 
          AND THIS IS WHERE WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE, THE STRATEGY, SOME OF THE DECISIONS THAT HAVE TO BE PRESENTED TO YOU AS DECISION MAKERS, UH, AS YOU REVIEW THESE ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENTS. 
          SO, OF COURSE, NOT, NOT EVERY, UM, PROJECT HAS, HAS AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT. 
          UH, WE, WE ARE ALWAYS LOOKING AT A PROJECT, WE'RE ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, IN THE FIRST STEP, UH, EXAMINING THAT PROJECT FOR POTENTIAL IMPACTS THROUGH THE SQA FRAMEWORK, AND THEN MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT EXEMPTIONS, EXCEPTIONS TO EXEMPTIONS, THEN DOING INITIAL STUDIES. 
          SO IT REALLY STARTS FROM THE BASIS, IT STARTS WITH THAT INITIAL EXPLORATION AND ANALYSIS DIRECTED BY CQA, AND THEN THAT REALLY STARTS TO LEAD US, UH, WHERE WE GO IN TERMS OF, UH, TERMS, THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW. 
          AND SO THEN OF COURSE, UH, THE LAST POINT, AS I WAS SAYING, IS IT'S AN INFORMATIONAL TOOL. 
          IT'S INTENDED TO, YOU KNOW, TO DAYLIGHT POTENTIAL IMPACTS AND TO PRESENT THOSE TO THE PUBLIC. 
          AND SO PART PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, UH, HAS BEEN SINCE INCEPTION, A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF, UH, CQA AND, UM, WE'LL SEE THAT THEN PLAY OUT, ESPECIALLY WITH REGARD TO OUR LOCAL, OUR LOCAL REQUIREMENTS, UM, FOR THE PROCESS FOR, UH, DEVELOPING AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT WHERE WE NOT JUST NOTICE THE, UM, NOTICE OF PREPARATION, BUT WE ALSO HOST A SCOPING MEETING SO THAT EVEN VERY EARLY ON THE PUBLIC IS INVOLVED IN THE DISCOURSE ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW OF A PROJECT. 
          I, I'D ALSO LIKE TO ADD THAT THROUGH THIS, UH, PLANNING REVIEW PROCESS, WE DO ENGAGE WITH ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNERS, UH, HAVE THEIR FEEDBACK AND ENGAGE WITH, UH, CONSULTANTS, UH, AS NEEDED. 
          SO THIS IS A, A, UH, SORT OF SIMPLIFIED VERSION OF, OF WHAT WOULD HAPPEN. 
          I THINK EVEN EVEN THE, THE SQA GUIDELINES HAVE A PRETTY, PRETTY DETAILED, UM, FLOW CHART, BUT WE START OUT WITH A PROPOSED ACTION OR AN ACTIVITY. 
          UH, AND THAT COULD BE, UH, IT COULD BE A DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY, BUT IT COULD BE A PROPOSED POLICY ACTION SUCH AS, UH, A, UM, UH, THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD COME TO , COME IMMEDIATELY TO MIND. 
          MAYBE REMEMBER A RECENT ONE. 
          YEAH, I'M JUST THINKING THAT FIRST BULLET POINT IS THE, WHERE WE START WITH SQL IS WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS A DISCRETIONARY PROJECT. 
          SO DISCRETIONARY PROJECTS ARE THE ONES WHERE THE CITY, AND THAT COULD BE STAFF, IT COULD BE YOU. 
          CITY COUNCIL HAS THE ABILITY WHETHER OR NOT TO APPROVE OR DENY IT, AS OPPOSED TO PURELY MINISTERIAL ACTIONS LIKE BUILDING PERMITS. 
          UH, YOU SEE THAT A LOT NOW WITH THE NEW STREAMLINING HOUSING WHERE IF A HOUSING DEVELOPMENT COMES IN AND IT QUALIFIES FOR SB 35, WHICH MEANS IT'S 50% AFFORDABLE, PAYS PREVAILING WAGES, AND IT MEETS ALL THE CITY'S OBJECTIVE STANDARDS, THEN THE CITY NEEDS TO APPROVE IT. 
          IT DOES, THERE'S NO DISCRETION. 
          AND BECAUSE IT'S MINISTERIAL, THAT MEANS CA 
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DOESN'T APPLY. 
          SO IN INJURY, I DON'T KNOW, UH, FINAL MAP THAT'S ALSO MINISTERIAL IF IT MEETS ALL THE MAP CONDITIONS. 
          I THINK THAT'S BALLOT MEASURES. 
          I THINK SOME ARE, YEAH, MINISTERIAL. 
          I THINK IF, YOU KNOW, IF WE GO BACK TO THE SCOTT RANCH PROJECT, IT'S, IT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE OF HOW THE ANALYSIS GETS DONE EARLY ON. 
          THE PROJECT GETS SHAPED, IT GETS APPROVED, AND THEN THE SUBSEQUENT ACTIVITIES, WHETHER IT'S, UH, THE FINAL MAP, UM, OR BUILDING PERMITS FOR THE RESIDENTS AS THEMSELVES, THEN SQ WASS ALREADY BEEN DONE AND, AND WILL SOMETIMES BE IMPLEMENTING MITIGATION MEASURES THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROJECT SITE. 
          BUT WE, WE, WE PROCESS THOUSANDS OF BUILDING PERMITS EACH YEAR THAT DON'T COME BEFORE A REVIEW AUTHORITY BECAUSE THEY'RE MINISTERIAL THAT YOU CAN SAY ABOUT THAT PROJECT OR THAT THAT PERMIT ITSELF, THAT CQA IS NOT REQUIRED FOR THAT BUILDING PERMIT. 
          BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT CQA WAS NOT DONE AT SOME POINT IN TIME. 
          IF YOU GO BACK IN THE HISTORY OF THE, UH, THE DISCRETIONARY LAND USE ENTITLEMENTS FOR THAT FOR A SUBDIVISION PROJECT, YOU WILL FIND THAT POINT IN TIME WHERE SQL WAS DONE. 
          AND I THINK THAT, SORRY ANDREW TO INTERRUPT THERE. 
          NO, NO, BUT THAT'S PROBABLY WHY THE STATE LEGISLATURE IN ENACTING SB 35, THEY SAID, HEY, IF A PROJECT HOUSING DEVELOPMENT MEETS ALL THE CITY'S OBJECTIVE STANDARDS AND EVERY SINGLE OBJECTIVE STANDARD THAT THE CITY DID WENT THROUGH ITS OWN CQA PROCESS TO ENACT THOSE ORDINANCES. 
          SO IF IT MEETS ALL THE OBJECTIVE STANDARDS, THEORETICALLY IT COMPLIES. 
          THERE'S NO ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS AND THEREFORE IT'S MINISTERIAL AND DOESN'T NEED TO HAVE THIS HUGE CQA AND KIND OF SLOW DOWN THE PROJECT AND ADD ADDITIONAL MONEY. 
          MM-HMM, . 
          YEAH, THAT'S A, THAT'S A GREAT POINT. 
          AND SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE STREAMLINING EXEMPTIONS APPLICABLE OR NOT APPLICABLE, CE A RECOGNIZES THAT IT, IT, CE A IS REQUIRED AT DIFFERENT LEVELS. 
          AND SO WHEN YOU COME DOWN TO YOUR STREAMLINING AND EXEMPTIONS, THEN IT'S BUILDING IN SORT OF THE HISTORY OF ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW INTO CERTAIN PROJECTS AND INTO CERTAIN SITUATIONS. 
          AND SO, SO AS, AS DYLAN POINTED OUT, SPECIAL SITUATIONS, EXEMPTIONS FOR CERTAIN HOUSING PROJECTS, WE'RE SEEING A, A VARIETY OF THOSE NOW, UH, BECAUSE THE STATE IS TRYING TO STREAMLINE HOUSING OR, OR, UM, INCENTIVIZE HOUSING PRODUCTION. 
          AND THEY DO THAT BY STREAMLINING THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW PROCESS. 
          THAT'S ONE OF THE WAYS THAT THEY DO IT. 
          SB 35 THAT DYLAN REFERENCED IS, UM, WOULD TAKE A HOUSING PROJECT AND ELIMINATE THE DISCRETIONARY REVIEW FROM IT, THAT THAT SHORTENS THE TIMEFRAME FOR REVIEW FOR THAT PROJECT. 
          BUT IT ALSO HAS THE EFFECT OF ELIMINATING THE REQUIREMENT TO CONDUCT CQA BECAUSE IT'S NO LONGER A DISCRETIONARY PROJECT. 
          WHAT WE, WE, WE ADHERE VERY CLOSELY TO AND LOOK VERY CLOSELY AT THOSE EXEMPTIONS FOR HOUSING PROJECTS. 
          AND IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN A, A FLURRY OF LEGISLATION OVER THE PAST, REALLY SINCE 2017. 
          AND SO IT, IT'S, UH, WE WORKED REALLY HARD TO STAY UP TO SPEED ON, UM, CURRENT HOUSING LEGISLATION AND ITS IMPACTS ON OUR LOCAL REVIEW PROCESS. 
          A COUPLE OF, UM, STREAMLINING MEASURES THAT HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME, OR STATUTORY EXEMPTIONS OR CATEGORICAL EXEMPTIONS. 
          AND I THINK THE BEST WAY TO UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE, AND I'M GOING TO HAVE DYLAN EXPLAIN THIS, IS WHAT IT MEANS FOR THE DEFENSIBILITY OF THE CE QA DETERMINATION. 
          YEAH. 
          AND SO LET'S SAY WE DETERMINE ALREADY UNDER CE QA, AND I'LL JUST BACK UP TOO, UH, CRYSTAL RIZZI WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, SHE DID A GREAT SQA PRESENTATION FOR ABOUT TWO HOURS, I WOULD SAY, WITH PLANNING COMMISSION BACK ON FEBRUARY 24TH, 2024. 
          AND I THINK ISABELLE INCLUDED THAT, UH, LINK TO IT. 
          SO THIS IS JUST KIND OF A PRIMER REALLY FOR AN IN-DEPTH ANALYSIS OR MORE IN DEPTH. 
          'CAUSE YOU COULD SPEND PROBABLY A WHOLE CLASS ON CQA, UH, TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. 
          SO YOU DETERMINE THAT IT IS A DISCRETIONARY PROJECT. 
          REALLY THE NEXT STEP IN THE FLOW CHART IS TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT IT'S EXEMPT. 
          AND THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF EXEMPTIONS. 
          THERE'S STATUTORY EXEMPTIONS AND CATEGORICAL EXEMPTIONS. 
          UH, BETWEEN BOTH OF 'EM. 
          I THINK THERE'S ABOUT 50 OR SO. 
          SO CATEGORICAL EXEMPTIONS ARE THE STATE LEGISLATURE SAID, HEY, WHEN THESE PROJECTS FALL WITHIN THESE TYPE OF CATEGORIES, THERE REALLY ISN'T THAT MUCH ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT. 
          UH, AND THE MAIN ONES I THINK YOU ALL SEE IS, UH, CLASS THREE, WHICH ARE SMALL KIND OF CONSTRUCTIONS, SINGLE FAMILY DUPLEXES, THOSE STUFF. 
          SO NOT BIG APARTMENT COMPLEX, BUT JUST MINOR RESIDENTIAL. 
          WITHIN MY, UH, RESIDENTIAL, UH, THERE'S 
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A CLASS 31, WHICH IS RECONSTRUCTION, UH, CO HISTORICAL RESOURCES. 
          OTHER ONES CLASS ONE ARE EXISTING FACILITIES. 
          SO IMPROVEMENTS, RESTORATIONS TO EXISTING FACILITIES LIKE HOMES. 
          UH, THOSE ARE EXEMPTIONS UNDER CQA. 
          BUT EVEN THOSE CATEGORICAL EXEMPTIONS, THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS TO THOSE. 
          SO LET'S SAY YOU FALL WITHIN THE CLASS THREE CATEGORICAL EXEMPTION OF A SMALL, UH, MINOR NEW CONSTRUCTION OF NEW HOME, A NEW DUPLEX, BUT YOU ARE BUILDING ON AN ENVIRONMENTALLY, UH, SENSITIVE HABITAT LIKE THE WETLANDS FLOODPLAINS, WELL, THEN THAT CATEGORICAL EXEMPTION'S NOT GONNA APPLY. 
          UH, OTHER EXCEPTIONS TO THE EXEMPTION ARE CUMULATIVE IMPACTS, OR IF YOUR NEW DUPLEX, SINGLE FAMILY HOME IS INTERFERING WITH A HISTORICAL RESOURCE. 
          SO THOSE ARE CATEGORICAL EXEMPTIONS. 
          AND AGAIN, THE STATE LEGISLATURE SAID THESE CATEGORIES DON'T NEED TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE CQA PROCESS BECAUSE WE FIND THAT THEY'RE REALLY NOT ENVIRONMENTALLY, UH, TOO MANY ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS IF IT FALLS WITH UNDER THERE, UH, STATUTORY EXEMPTIONS DO HAVE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS. 
          BUT SIMILAR TO OVERRIDING CONSIDERATIONS, THE STATE LEGISLATURE SAID, YES, WE RECOGNIZE THESE TYPE OF, UH, PROJECTS HAVE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS, BUT THE BENEFITS TO THE PUBLIC SOCIETY AS A WHOLE OUTWEIGH THOSE IMPACTS. 
          SO, UM, SOME STATUTORY EXEMPTIONS, WE WON'T HAVE 'EM HERE IN PETALUMA, BUT IN FOUR YEARS THERE'S GONNA BE AN OLYMPICS DOWN IN LA THIS LEGISLATURE SAID, UH, FOUR PROJECTS RELATED TO THE OLYMPICS. 
          THOSE DON'T NEED TO GO THROUGH THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROCESS BECAUSE OLYMPICS HAPPENS PRETTY QUICKLY. 
          AND WE DON'T WANT YOU BOGGED DOWN IN ALL THESE LAWSUITS IF YOU'RE BUILDING A NEW STADIUM. 
          UH, OTHER CATEGOR, UH, STATUTORY EXEMPTIONS YOU SEE WITH BUS LANES, BUS DEPOTS, UH, TRAINS, UH, SO LIKE THE NEW SMART STATION THAT WILL BE STATUTORILY EXEMPT. 
          THERE WILL BE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS TO ILLINOIS, UH, ALL THE CONSTRUCTION. 
          BUT THE BENEFITS OF HAVING A NEW SMART STATION DEPOT AT CORONA, THOSE OUTWEIGH. 
          SO THOSE ARE STATUTORY. 
          AND AGAIN, THE BENEFITS OF THE HARM OR BENEFITS OF THE PROJECT OUTWEIGH THE HARMS. SO, LIKE ANDREW WAS TALKING ABOUT, THERE IS THE DEFENSIBILITY OF THOSE. 
          SO LET'S SAY THE CITY DETERMINES THAT A PROJECT IS STATUTORILY OR CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT, WE WILL THEN FILE A NOTICE OF EXEMPTION WITH THE COUNTY AND THE STATE. 
          AND IF WE GET CHALLENGED ON A LAWSUIT, UH, WE JUST HAVE TO PROVE TO THE JUDGE THAT THE DETERMINATION THAT IT IS CATEGORICALLY OR STATUTORILY EXEMPT, UH, THERE'S SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IN THE RECORD, WHICH IS HIGHLY DEFERENTIAL. 
          UH, JUDGE ISN'T GONNA REWA THE EVIDENCE. 
          JUDGE IS JUST GONNA LOOK AT THE RECORD AND SAY, OKAY, CITY, UH, HCPC, I COULD SEE HOW YOU BELIEVE THAT THE PROJECT IS, UH, CATEGORICALLY OR STATUTORILY EXEMPT. 
          SO I'M GONNA UPHOLD THAT EXEMPTION. 
          UH, AND YOU'LL SEE WITH CONTROVERSIAL PROJECTS, WE EXPLAIN, UH, WHY THE PROJECT IS STATUTORILY OR CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT. 
          AND FOR CATEGORICAL EXEMPTIONS, WE'LL EXPLAIN WHY NONE OF THE EXCEPTIONS APPLY. 
          LIKE IT'S NOT WITHIN ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE HABITAT. 
          SO, ANDREW, ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANTED ME TO ADD THERE, OR, NO, I THINK THAT'S GREAT. 
          DO WE, UH, HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO. 
          OKAY, GOOD. 
          SO, SO IF WE'VE, IF WE'VE WORKED THROUGH, UM, THE, OH, SORRY, ANDREW, I SHOULD ALSO MENTION, AND WE DON'T INCLUDE IT HERE, BUT MAYBE WE SHOULD, IS EVEN IF A PROJECT DOESN'T FALL WITHIN THE STATUTORY OR CATEGORICAL EXEMPTION, THERE'S ALSO THE C GUIDELINES 15 0 6 1 EXEMPTION, WHICH IS JUST THE COMMON SENSE EXEMPTION THAT, UH, THE PROJECT IT'S SEEN WITH CERTAINTY WILL HAVE NO ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS. 
          UH, THE MOST RECENT ONE I HELPED OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT TODAY DID ONE, THEY ARE GOING TO CITY COUNCIL ON THE 16TH ASKING TO APPROVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY TO GET MONEY TO HELP FUND THEIR REMOVAL OF ABANDONED VEHICLES. 
          SO THAT IS PART OF THE COMMON SENSE EXEMPTION BECAUSE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ALREADY REMOVES ABANDONED VEHICLES AND JUST ACCEPTING MONEY FROM THE COUNTY TO DO THAT BETTER ISN'T GONNA CAUSE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT. 
          SO THAT'S THE COMMON SENSE EXEMPTION, AND WE TRY TO USE IT FREQUENTLY, UH, BUT IT'S ALSO HAS IF CHALLENGED, WE WOULD JUST NEED TO PROVE TO A JUDGE THAT THERE'S SUBSTANTIAL IN EVIDENCE OF THE RECORD WHY THE COMMON SENSE EXEMPTION APPLIES. 
          GREAT. 
          THANKS, DYLAN. 
          SO IF WE, IF, IF THAT'S THE SORT OF STREAMLINING AND EXEMPTION PROCESS FOR PROJECTS AND, AND THE SMALLER PROJECTS THAT COME BEFORE YOU, YOU WILL OFTENTIMES SEE A CATEGOR CATEGORICAL EXEMPTION BEING APPLIED. 
          THEN ON THE OTHER HAND IS WHEN THE ANALYSIS DETERMINES THAT A STREAMLINING, UH, MEASURE OR A CATEGORICAL OR STATUTORY EXEMPTION ISN'T APPLICABLE, 
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THEN THE PROJECT GOES TO THE NEXT LEVEL WHERE WE PREPARE AN INITIAL STUDY. 
          AND THAT INITIAL STUDY USES WHAT'S, WHAT'S CALLED THE APPENDIX G CHECKLIST. 
          AND THERE'S A VARIETY OF TOPICS ON THAT CHECKLIST THAT HAVE TO BE ANALYZED. 
          FOR HCPC, WE'RE MOST OFTEN GOING TO BE LOOKING AT AESTHETICS, UM, CULTURAL RESOURCES, GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS, AIR QUALITY, UM, NOISE OFTENTIMES WILL BE A, A BIG ONE, ESPECIALLY, UM, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT LAND USE, TRIBAL CULTURAL RESOURCES DEPENDING ON WHERE IT'S LOCATED. 
          THOSE ARE SOME OF THE EXAMPLES. 
          SO THEY, EACH OF THOSE IS, IS REVIEWED AND THERE'S A DETERMINATION THAT'S MADE OF WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S A POTENTIAL FOR WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S IMPACT OR NO IMPACT. 
          AND THEN IF THERE'S A POTENTIAL FOR IMPACT, IF THERE'S A POTENTIAL FOR MITIGATION OR IF IT'S, UH, UH, IMPACT THAT'S UNAVOIDABLE. 
          AND SO THAT ANALYSIS GETS DONE BY A VARIETY OF CONSULTANTS, SPECIALISTS, AND PROFESSIONALS IN, IN THESE FIELDS. 
          THEY PREPARE WHAT ARE CALLED THE TECHNICAL STUDIES AND REPORTS THAT FORMS THE BASIS AND THE BACKBONE THEN OF, UH, YOUR NEGATIVE DECLARATION, YOUR MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION OR YOUR ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT. 
          IF IT'S A, IF IT'S A NEGATIVE DECLARATION, THEN, UM, WHAT YOU CAN CONCLUDE FROM THAT TERM IS THAT THERE ARE NO IMPACTS. 
          OKAY. 
          NO IMPACTS THAT REACH THE LEVEL OF SIGNIFICANT THRESHOLD. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND SO, SO THEN IT'S, IT'S, UM, THAT COMES FORWARD TO YOU THEN AS THE SQUA DOCUMENT MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION MEANS THERE'S THE POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS, BUT THEY CAN MEET, BE MITIGATED TO A LEVEL OF, UM, LESS THAN SIGNIFICANT. 
          AND THEN THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT IS THEN THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF COURSE, OF, OF ANALYSIS. 
          THEN WE ALSO HAVE TOOLS THEN, WHICH WE CAN USE THOSE, UH, THOSE SQUA DOCUMENTS AND BUILD UPON OR MAKE REFERENCE TO THEM IN FUTURE FUTURE REVIEWS. 
          AND THOSE ARE THE SUBSEQUENT OR SUPPLEMENTAL, UM, CE A DOCUMENTS OR AN ADDENDUM TO AN A TO AN ADOPTED DOCUMENT. 
          SO I THINK AS, AS I, WHERE I WANT TO LEAVE IT ON THIS SLIDE IS JUST TO, TO IMPART ON YOU THE UNDERSTANDING OF IMPART THE COMPLEXITY OF CE A, BUT ALSO HOW IT'S VERY MUCH A PROCESS STATUTE, AND IT PROVIDES US WITH A LOT OF PATHWAYS AND A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES TO DO THAT SORT OF INITIAL ANALYSIS, DEVELOP THE UNDERSTANDING, AND THEN IT WILL DIRECT US ON WHERE TO GO NEXT. 
          AND IT SORT OF KEEPS ON DOING THAT ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW PROCESS. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THAT'S OKAY. 
          SO THEN SOME OF THE ASPECTS OF, OF, UH, THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORTS, I WANT TO TOUCH BRIEFLY ON THE, THE LEAD AGENCY ROLE AND THE RESPONSIBLE AGENCY ROLES. 
          SO FOR, FOR, UH, EVERY ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT, THERE WILL BE, UH, ONE LEAD AGENCY, AND, UH, TYPICALLY THAT FOR, UM, PROJECTS IN THE CITY OF PETALUMA, THE CITY OF PETALUMA WILL BE THE LEAD AGENCY. 
          THEN RESPONSIBLE AGENCY ROLES COULD BE, UH, THE REGIONAL WATER QUALITY CONTROL BOARD. 
          IT COULD BE CALIFORNIA FISH AND WILDLIFE, ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER, UH, JURISDICTIONS, UM, THAT, THAT WOULD HAVE AUTHORITY, REGULATORY AUTHORITY OVER SOME ASPECT OF THE PROJECT. 
          AND SO, AS LEAD AGENCY, UH, WE WOULD HAVE THAT REGULATORY, REGULATORY AUTHORITY FOR COMPLIANCE WITH OUR LOCAL REGULATIONS. 
          BUT THEN, LET'S SAY FOR INSTANCE, UM, CALIFORNIA FISH AND WILDLIFE REQUIRES A CERTAIN PERMIT, AND SO THEN THEY'RE GOING TO BE THE REGULATORY AUTHORITY FOR THE PERMIT THAT THEY WOULD ISSUE, AND THEN THEY ADOPT A RESPONSIBLE AGENCY ROLE. 
          SO THEY'LL BE PART OF THE REVIEW PROCESS, BUT EVEN AFTER THE REVIEW PROCESS IS COMPLETED, THEY MAY BE ONGOING, UM, PART OF THE IMPLEMENTATION PROCESS AND PART OF THE, UH, MITIGATION REQUIREMENTS FOR PROJECT, UH, THAT'S RECEIVED A CERTIFIED EIR. 
          AND SO THEN AS, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE HAVE THE, THE EIR PROCESS AND PROCEDURES THAT ARE MANDATED BY CE QA, BUT THEN THAT ALSO ALLOWS US TO, TO ADOPT ADDITIONAL, UM, PROCESS AND PROCEDURE REQUIREMENTS, WHICH IS WHAT WE DID WHEN WE ADOPTED THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW GUIDELINES. 
          AND, UM, SO I THINK, UH, WE ANNOUNCED TO YOU LAST WEEK THAT THE, UH, DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT FOR THE DOWNTOWN OVERLAY AND EKN APPALACHIAN HOTEL IS AVAILABLE FOR REVIEW. 
          AND SO THAT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE OF, OF, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE AS YOU'RE REVIEWING THAT, WHERE, WHERE SOME OF THAT PROCESS THAT'S BEING DESCRIBED IN THE DOCUMENT IS REFLECTING BOTH CE QA 
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MANDATED PROCESS AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL LOCAL, UH, REVIEW REQUIREMENTS. 
          UM, A AGAIN, THE, UH, THE SCOPING MEETING THAT WE REQUIRE LOCALLY, THAT THE DRAFT EIR HAS TO COME FORWARD TO THE PLANNING, IN THIS CASE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND HCPC FOR RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL TO DIRECT STAFF TO PREPARE A FINAL EIR. 
          AND THEN THE, UH, THE, UM, COMMISSION AND COMMITTEE WOULD HAVE THE OPTION OF RECEIVING THE FINAL EIR BACK FOR REVIEW AND RECOMMENDING TO COUNSEL THEN ON, UM, CERTIFICATION OF THE FINAL EIR. 
          SO CQA DOESN'T REQUIRE ALL OF THOSE ADDITIONAL STEPS, UH, BUT LOCALLY WE DO, WE DO IMPLEMENT OUR OWN REGULATIONS AS IT RELATES TO THAT. 
          DID YOU HAVE, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS, DYLAN, ON THE NO, I THINK THAT'S ALL RIGHT. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THEN AS WE LOOK AT THE DRAFT EIR CONTENTS, WHAT THAT'S GOING TO HAVE WHEN IT COMES FORWARD IN THE DRAFT FORM IS, IS THE SUMMARY OF PROPOSED ACTIONS AND THEIR CONSEQUENCES. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, SUMMARIZED EARLY ON IN THE DOCUMENT. 
          THEN IT GOES INTO AN EXHAUSTIVE, DETAILED PROJECT DESCRIPTION AND OBJECTIVES OF THE PROJECT. 
          THEN IT, UM, CONSIDERS THE EXISTING CONDITIONS, BOTH THE PHYSICAL AND REGULATORY CONTEXT, AND THEN, THEN, UM, THE ANALYSIS AND TECHNICAL STUDIES WILL BE PRESENTED. 
          AND THOSE, THOSE ANA, THE ANALYSIS AND TECHNICAL STUDIES WILL BE DONE WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE APPENDIX G CHECKLIST. 
          SO EACH OF THOSE ELEMENTS THAT'S BEING REVIEWED, UH, WOULD BE SUPPORTED BY ONE OR MORE TECHNICAL STUDIES ARE REPORTS. 
          AND THAT ANALYSIS IS PRESENTED AS WELL AS THEN THE OVERALL REPORT GETS, UH, GETS BUNDLED TOGETHER FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. 
          AND SO, UH, WHILE THE CORE OF THE REPORT MAY RUN ABOUT 300 PAGES OR SO, SOMETIMES THE, THE ENTIRETY OF THE REPORT WITH TECHNICAL, UM, STUDIES CAN EXCEED A THOUSAND PAGES. 
          SO THAT CAN GET TO BE QUITE LENGTHY DOCUMENTS. 
          AND ANDREW, I'LL JUST ADD TOO, ALSO, INCLUDING IN THE DRAFT EIR, YOU'LL SEE ALTERNATIVES. 
          SO FOR AS PART OF THE EIR PROCESS, WE'RE REQUIRED TO SAY, OKAY, HERE'S THE PROJECT THAT AS PRESENTED, BUT HERE'S SOME OTHER ALTERNATIVES. 
          UH, THE SCOTT RANCH ONE, I THINK THEY HAD ORIGINALLY, LET'S SAY 50 UNITS, THEIR ALTERNATIVE WAS DOWN, GO DOWN TO 13 CITY COUNCIL, FOUND THAT THAT WAS THE ENVIRONMENTALLY SUPERIOR, UH, PROJECT. 
          SO THAT WAS EVENTUALLY THE EIR THAT WAS CERTIFIED, UH, FOR THE EKN, YOU'LL SEE THE ALTERNATIVES. 
          THEY'LL BE LIKE, LET'S GET RID OF ZONE NUMBER THREE, I THINK, OR WHAT IF THE HOTEL WAS ONLY 45 FEET? SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE ALTERNATIVES. 
          YOU'LL ALSO SEE WHILE REVIEWING THE, UH, EKN OVERLAY, EIR, I ALSO WANTED TO SHARE WITH THE HCPC IN TERMS OF THE TECHNICAL STUDIES WITHIN THE DRAFT, EIR. 
          UH, ONE OF THOSE TECHNICAL STUDIES WOULD BE THE HISTORIC RESOURCE EVALUATIONS, UH, PER ELIGIBLE HISTORIC RESOURCES OR ALREADY DESIGNATED HISTORIC RESOURCES. 
          OTHER TECHNICAL STUDIES MAY INVOLVE ARCHEOLOGICAL REPORTS, UM, IN TERMS OF THE PROPERTY OR THE SENSITIVITY, UH, TO ANY GROUND DISTURBANCE. 
          UH, SO THESE ARE COMPONENTS WITHIN THE LARGER DRAFT, DIR, UH, AND THEY MIGHT IN, IN INFORM OTHER SECTIONS SUCH AS AESTHETICS OR CULTURAL RESOURCES. 
          UH, SO IT PROVIDES THE FOUNDATION FOR THE EIR. 
          AND A QUICK COMMENT ON TECHNICAL STUDIES AND REPORTS. 
          UM, SO WE, WE TOOK, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH THE, UH, FIRE STATION NUMBER ONE, WE, WE RECEIVED YOUR INPUT DURING THE STUDY SESSION ON WHAT YOU WANTED TO SEE IN THAT HISTORIC RESOURCE EVALUATION. 
          WE DRAFTED, UM, THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS BASED UPON THAT. 
          THEN WE ISSUE THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS. 
          WE GET RESPONSES FROM CONSULTANTS, SELECT A CONSULTANT WHO THEN PRODUCES WHAT'S CALLED AN ADMINISTRATIVE DRAFT. 
          THE ADMINISTRATIVE DRAFT IS REVIEWED BY STAFF AND, UM, AND OFF, YOU KNOW, EDITS COMMENTS AND SUCH ARE, ARE INCLUDED IN THAT REVIEW. 
          AND THEN IT'S RETURNED TO THE CONSULTANT. 
          SO THAT CAN BE A, A REITERATIVE PROCESS UNTIL WE REACH A POINT WHERE STAFF ARE COMFORTABLE RECEIVING. 
          THEN THE FINAL VERSION, UH, FOR INCLUSION IN THE, UM, THE EIR. 
          SO, UM, YOU'LL SEE WHEN YOU CAN KIND OF THINK ABOUT THAT. 
          THEN, UH, IN CONTEXT OF THE HRE THAT WILL BE PRODUCED FOR, UM, FOR THE, UH, FIRE STATION NUMBER ONE. 
          SO THEN THE, THEN THE, UH, THE DRAFT DIR WOULD THEN ENTER INTO THE CERTIFICATION PROCESS. 
          THE, THE DRAFT DIR UH, STAFF IS DIRECTED BY COUNSEL TO GO AHEAD AND PREPARE THE FINAL EIR. 
          THAT'S AFTER THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD 
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CLOSES AFTER PLANNING COMMISSION, AND OR THE COMMITTEE WOULD REVIEW IT, AND THEN AFTER COUNSEL WOULD REVIEW IT, UH, RECEIVING THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE COMMISSION AND COMMITTEE. 
          SO, SO THEN, UH, STAFF ARE, ARE INSTRUCTED TO PREPARE THE FINAL EIR, AND THEN THE FINAL EIR COMES BACK THROUGH THE PROCESS AGAIN FOR CERTIFICATION. 
          AND WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT TO SEE THEN IN THE FINAL EIR ARE CLEAR ARTICULATION OF THE, UH, SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS, FINDINGS OF FACT, UM, TO CERTIFY, AND THEN THAT STATEMENT OF OVERRIDING CONSIDERATIONS FOR THOSE SIGNIFICANT AND UNAVOIDABLE IMPACTS. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, THE SORT OF THE, UM, THE BALANCING AND THE DECISION MAKING THAT HAS TO HAPPEN, WHERE THERE, THE, UH, THE LEAD AGENCY IS BEING ASKED TO DECIDE BETWEEN THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND SOCIAL BENEFITS OF A PROJECT IN COMPARISON TO THE IMPACTS TO THE ENVIRONMENT. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHERE ALL OF THAT THEN COMES, FLOWS BACK THROUGH TO THE EIR CERTIFICATION PROCESS. 
          THERE IS OF COURSE, UH, THE PUBLIC REVIEW, UH, PROCESS, WHICH IS A MINIMUM OF 45 DAYS. 
          AND WHEN WE, WE START THAT PROCESS, WE'LL INITIATE A, IN ANTICIPATION OF THE, THE CITY COUNCIL PUBLIC HEARING TO REVIEW THE DRAFT DIR. 
          AND SO, SO WE KIND OF BACK UP FROM WHEN WE ANTICIPATE A PROJECT COMING BEFORE CITY COUNCIL BACK UP 45 DAYS. 
          AND THEN THAT'S WHEN WE WOULD, UH, ISSUE AND, AND CIRCULATE THE PUBLIC DRAFT AND DO THE ASSOCIATED, UH, NOTIFICATIONS THAT IT'S AVAILABLE. 
          HOWEVER, IF FOR SOME REASON THAT PUBLIC HEARING GETS DELAYED, THAT PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD STAYS OPEN UNTIL THAT PUBLIC HEARING CLOSES THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. 
          SO IT'S A MINIMUM OF 45 DAYS. 
          IT CAN GO EVEN LONGER THAN THAT. 
          WE DON'T CLOSE IT UNTIL CITY COUNCIL HAS THAT PUBLIC HEARING. 
          AND THEN THE FINAL EIR CONTENTS COME TOGETHER IN SORT OF AN UNUSUAL FORM. 
          WE DON'T, UM, WE DON'T REVISE THE DRAFT EIR TO A FINAL DOCUMENT. 
          WHAT WE DO IS WE HAVE THE DRAFT DIR, THEN WE ADD ON THE LAYERS OF PUBLIC COMMENTS AND RESPONSES TO PUBLIC COMMENTS OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE FROM RESPONSIBLE AGENCIES AND RESPONSES TO COMMENTS TO THOSE AS WELL, ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ADDED BY THE LEAD AGENCY. 
          ALL OF THAT COMES TOGETHER THEN TO FORM THE FINAL EIR. 
          SO WHAT YOU REALLY SEE IN THAT ONE DOCUMENT IS THE HISTORY OF THE PROJECT, INCLUDING ITS, UH, ITS PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD AND, AND PUBLIC DISCOURSE. 
          AND SO THEN LOOKED AT FROM ANOTHER WAY, I, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ANY SIMPLER OR NOT , BUT IT SOMETIMES VISUALS ARE HELPFUL. 
          WE HAVE THE, THE PROJECT SUBMITTAL. 
          IT, IT COULD BE A, A PROJECT, UM, A PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT PROJECT THAT'S SUBMITTED, A REQUIRED APPLICATION TO THE CITY, OR IT COULD BE A CITY PROJECT. 
          REMEMBER THAT, YOU KNOW, SQA STARTED OUT AS FOR PUBLIC PROJECTS ONLY, AND THEN WAS, WAS, UM, ENLARGED TO OR TO ENCOMPASS PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. 
          SO THE CITY ALSO HAS TO GO THROUGH CE QA PROCESS FOR, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY IF IT WANTED TO, UM, CONSTRUCT A NEW WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, IT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS, OR IF IT WANTS TO ADOPT A NEW ORDINANCE, THAT THAT POLICY ACTION WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AS WELL. 
          SO THE CITY, UH, LOCAL JURISDICTIONS ARE NOT IMMUNE TO, OR FOR THAT MATTER, REGIONAL OR, OR STATE AGENCIES ARE NOT IMMUNE TO CA NECESSARILY. 
          AND THEN, UH, IN THE CASE OF AN EIR, THE CITY WOULD DETERMINE, UH, THAT AN EIR IS REQUIRED. 
          EITHER THE INITIAL STUDY DEMONSTRATED THAT, OR IT WAS CLEAR THAT THERE WOULD BE SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS TO THE ENVIRONMENT, AND YOU JUST, UH, IMMEDIATELY CALL FOR THE EIR THE NEXT STEP. 
          THEN WE DO THE INITIAL STUDY IN SCOPING, PREPARING THE INITIAL STUDY, PUBLISHING THE NOTICE OF PREPARATION, HOLDING THE SCOPING MEETING. 
          THEN WE GO ON TO THE PREPARATION ITSELF. 
          AND, UH, AS DYLAN POINTED OUT, LOOKING AT THE PROJECT ALTERNATIVES AS PART OF THAT ANALYSIS AND PREPARATION, THEN THE DRAFT EIR COMES OUT OF THAT FOR PUBLIC REVIEW. 
          WE'VE GOT SOME OF THE DETAILS THERE, AND AGAIN, THAT'S A MINIMUM OF 45 DAYS PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. 
          THEN WE GO BACK, RESPOND TO PUBLIC COMMENTS, MAKE THE REVISIONS THAT ARE REQUESTED BY THE LEAD AGENCY, AND THEN COME BACK WITH THE FINAL EIR, UM, FOR CERTIFICATION. 
          AND ANDREW, MAYBE IT'S HELPFUL TO GO BACK A COUPLE SLIDES, OR AT LEAST THIS WHOLE MAP, I GUESS, AND THE ARROWS COULD EVEN KIND OF 
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REWIND AGAIN, IF THE PROJECT CHANGES OR ADDITIONAL NEW INFORMATION'S MADE, UH, THAT WOULD EITHER BE DONE THROUGH AN AQUA ADDENDUM OR A SUPPLEMENTAL EIR DEPENDING ON THE LEVEL OF SEVERITY OF THOSE NEW INFORMATIONS OR THE NEW PROJECT. 
          UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S AN EXAMPLE THAT WE CAN GIVE. 
          I WAS THINKING THE FLOAT HOUSE, UH, OVER IN MCNAIR, THAT ONE HADN'T, UH, MITIGATED A NEGATIVE DECLARATION, BUT THROUGH THE PROJECT, THEY WANTED TO EXTEND, UH, NEW HOURS, EXTENDED HOURS, UH, I THINK ELECTRIC BOATS, WHEN REALLY THE INITIAL M AND D ONLY ANALYZED, UH, KIND OF HANDHELD OR ORS AND NOTHING ELECTRICAL BOATS. 
          SO WE DID THROUGH ALL 13, OR ACTUALLY IT'S 19, UH, DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS, WE DETERMINED THAT THE ADDITIONAL HOURS, UH, A COUPLE MORE ELECTRIC BOATS ISN'T GOING TO RISE TO THE LEVEL OF SIGNIFICANT, UH, BUT IF IT DID, WE WOULD HAVE TO DO A GO THROUGH THIS WHOLE EIR PROCESS AGAIN. 
          SO THE, YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT POINT, DYLAN, BECAUSE PROJECTS DO CHANGE, YOU KNOW, UH, ESPECIALLY PROJECTS THAT ARE MULTI-YEAR PROJECTS WHERE THEY START TO, UH, FACE THE REALITIES OF, YOU KNOW, THE NATIONAL AND LOCAL ECONOMIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO WE ARE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE, UM, PROJECT CHANGES THROUGH A VARIETY OF, OF MANEUVERS AND APPROACHES, UH, RANGING FROM SMALL ONES TO WHERE YOU, WHERE YOU MAY SAY, WELL, OBVIOUSLY HOURS OF OPERATION WOULDN'T HAVE THAT LARGE OF AN IMPACT. 
          YOU MAY THINK THAT INTUITIVELY, BUT WE STILL NEED TO ANALYZE THAT AND, UM, AND HAVE THAT BECOME PART OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          AND IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS, UH, FOR, UH, THE LAST FEW TOPICS, WE CAN JUMP INTO CASE STUDIES, UH, EVERYONE, ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. 
          UM, AND THE, AND WE ARE CONCLUDING THE PRESENTATION, SO WE'RE NEAR TO THE END. 
          UH, SO WITHIN THESE TWO CASE STUDIES, UH, WE'RE GONNA SPEAK ON A COMMERCIAL AND A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY AND KIND OF TALK THROUGH THE REVIEW PROCESS THAT, THAT OCCURRED. 
          THESE WERE TWO PROJECTS THAT, UH, WERE, WERE PRESENTED TO HCPC WITHIN THE PAST TWO, THREE YEARS, UM, AND, AND WERE APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS. 
          UM, SO WHEN WE HAVE A PROJECT, WHEN THE PLANNING DIVISION HAS AN APPLICATION, UH, WE TAKE THE, WE TAKE IT THROUGH, UH, A PLANNING REVIEW PROCESS, AND THAT INCLUDES THE INTAKE, UH, SPEAKING WITH THE APPLICANT FOR THE COST RECOVERY, THE INTERACTIONS WITH THEM IN TERMS OF UNDERSTANDING THE SCOPE OF WORK, UH, AND HAVING THE, THE APPROPRIATE DOCUMENTATION AND, AND SUPPORTING TECHNICAL, UH, REPORTS TO, TO ANALYZE A PROJECT. 
          UH, WHEN, WHEN THAT INTAKE PROCESS IS COMPLETED, WE GO INTO A COMPLETENESS REVIEW, UH, SO THAT, THAT PROVIDES A 30 DAY REVIEW, UH, AND, AND COLLECTING INPUT FROM PLANNING, UH, FROM BUILDING, FROM FIRE, FROM PUBLIC WORKS TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THE SCOPE OF WORK, WHAT THE PROJECT WILL REQUIRE, UH, ONCE IT COMES THROUGH, UH, THE PLANNING REVIEW, AND, UH, SUPPORTING A PROJECT THAT IS BUILDABLE, THAT'S, UH, TO CODE, UH, THAT, THAT WILL BE SUCCESSFUL WHEN IT COMES TO THE BUILDING PERMIT. 
          UM, SO ONCE THE INTAKE AND THE COMPLETENESS REVIEW, UH, WE HAVE THAT COMPLIANCE REVIEW AND THE PUBLIC REVIEW, AND THIS IS WHERE HCPC IS INVOLVED IN REVIEWING A PROJECT, UH, WHEN IT'S PRESENTED, UH, REVIEWING THE MATERIALS, PROVIDING FEEDBACK, UH, ADDRESSING THE PUBLIC COMMENTS, UM, SEEING IF THERE'S A NEED TO REQUEST ADDITIONAL INFORMATION OR TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS, UH, THAT, THAT MAKE A PROJECT SUCCESSFUL, THAT COULD BE A CREATIVE PERSPECTIVE OR TO, UM, GET, GET YOUR INPUT ON WHAT YOU EXPERIENCE WITHIN A PARTICULAR AREA, PARTICULAR SITE, OR, OR SOMETHING THAT YOU FIND IS, IS VALUABLE. 
          UH, SO THE HCPC INPUT IS THROUGH THAT COMPLIANCE REVIEW AND THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR, FOR PUBLIC, UH, FEEDBACK. 
          UH, ONCE A PROJECT IS, UH, REVIEWED, WE HAVE THAT, THAT APPROVAL, AND WE, WE ARCHIVE THE PROJECT. 
          UH, THERE ARE, UH, DEADLINES OR, OR TIMELINES IN TERMS OF APPROVALS, UH, WITHIN A ONE YEAR WITH THE, THE ABILITY TO HAVE THAT EXTENSION, UH, AND THE PROJECT IS ARCHIVED FOR THAT, FOR, FOR THAT, UH, OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THE BUILDING PERMIT, UH, REVIEWED APPROPRIATELY. 
          UH, SO, UH, ONE QUICK NOTE THERE, THOUGH, YOUR CONDITIONS OF APLU OF APPROVAL WILL CONTINUE TO FLOW THROUGH, AND SO WE'RE GOING BACK TO THAT PROJECT APPROVAL DURING BUILDING PERMIT REVIEW TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE COMPLYING WITH ANY CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE ADDED DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS. 
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UM, PERHAPS NOT SO MUCH FOR HCPC, BUT FOR PLANNING COMMISSION, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT LAND USES, AND SOMETIMES THEY'VE CONDITIONED OPERATIONAL CHARACTERISTICS OF THE LAND USE. 
          AND SO, SO THOSE, THOSE CONDITIONS ARE COMMUNICATED TO THE APPLICANT, AND, AND THE INTENT IS THAT THEY ARE THEN COMMUNICATED TO ANY FUTURE PROPERTY OWNERS OR BUSINESS OWNERS. 
          WE'LL USE THOSE OPERATIONAL CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL THEN THROUGH THE CODE ENFORCEMENT PROCESS TO ENFORCE THEM. 
          SO CODE ENFORCEMENT, IF THEY, IF THEY GET A CALL FOR A NUISANCE BEHAVIOR OR SOMETHING AT A BUSINESS, UM, OR ESPECIALLY AT A NEW DEVELOPMENT, THEY'LL COME BACK TO US AND SAY, WELL, CAN WE LOOK AT THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL TO SEE IF THESE OPERATIONAL ISSUES WERE ADDRESSED IN THOSE? AND IF THEY ARE, THEN THEY'LL APPLY THOSE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL AS PART OF THEIR ENFORCEMENT STRATEGY. 
          SO I THINK IT'S, IT'S, UH, CERTAINLY, UH, ONCE THE DECISION IS MADE IN A PUBLIC HEARING BY HCPC, PERHAPS FOR YOU, THAT THAT ENDS, EVEN THOUGH MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY MAY ASK YOU QUESTIONS ABOUT IT AFTERWARDS, BUT IT STILL VERY MUCH STAYS ALIVE FOR QUITE A LONG TIME, THEN, AS THE PROJECT CONTINUES TO WORK ITS WAY THROUGH, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. 
          SO THE FIRST CASE STUDY, UH, TO, TO PRESENT IS A RESIDENTIAL PROJECT FOR FIVE 15 B STREET. 
          UH, THIS CAME IN AS A MAJOR HISTORIC SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW. 
          UH, ITS SCOPE OF WORK WAS FOR A REAR ADDITION, UH, TO THE PROPERTY. 
          IT'S LOCATED IN THE, A STREET HISTORIC DISTRICT. 
          UH, SO WITHIN THE PROJECT MATERIALS, WE DID RECEIVE ELEVATIONS, FLOOR PLANS, EXISTING AND PROPOSED, UM, RENDERINGS TO UNDERSTAND, UM, THE EXTENSION TO THE PROPERTY. 
          HOW, HOW DOES THE HEIGHT, THE VOLUME, THE MASSING CHANGE, AND IS THAT A, A NEGATIVE IMPACT? UM, SO THERE ARE THOSE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS THAT HELP, UH, PLANNERS AND THE HCPC UH, REVIEW THE PROJECT, UH, TO, TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION, UH, FOR, FOR THE PROJECT. 
          UH, IN ADDITION TO THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, WE DID RECEIVE A HISTORIC RESOURCE EVALUATION. 
          UH, THEY PROVIDED, UH, THE HISTORIC CONTEXT TO THE PROPERTY, UH, ADDRESSED WHAT WERE THE CHARACTER DEFINING FEATURES, UH, SO THAT WE, WE CAN UNDERSTAND THE SCOPE OF WORK, THAT THERE WERE NO REMOVAL OF CHARACTER DEFINING FEATURES. 
          UM, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE SCOPE OF WORK IS FOR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, UH, TO EXTEND THE USE OF THE BUILDING, TO ENHANCE THE OVERALL EXTERIOR APPEARANCE, UH, WHILE INCREASING THE, THE USE OF THE PROPERTY. 
          UM, THE PROJECT ALSO INCLUDED, UM, A DETA, UH, AN ATTACHED REAR ACCESSORY STRUCTURE, UH, AND IT, AND DUE TO ITS LOCATION, UH, WITHIN A MIXED USE AREA, UH, THERE WAS OPPORTUNITIES TO WORK WITH THE SITE, UH, E EVEN WITH ON, WITH, UH, BEYOND THE SITE SETBACKS. 
          UM, SO UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE SCOPE OF WORK IS, THE SITE, THE LOCATION, THE REGULATORY FRAMEWORK, UH, WHETHER THAT'S THE IEO OR, UH, THE, OR, UH, THE SECRETARY OF INTERIOR STANDARDS, UH, AND APPLYING THE, A STREET HISTORIC, UH, DISTRICT DESIGN GUIDELINES. 
          UH, AND WITHIN THE DESIGN GUIDELINES, IT'S NOT A, UM, DIRECT YES OR NO. 
          IT'S MORE OF, UH, HOW IS IT APPROPRIATE IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT? IS THE HEIGHT, UH, MATCHING? IS IT, UH, WITHIN CONTEXT? UM, DOES IT CALL OUT FROM THE OTHER PROPERTIES? IT'S TO MAKE THAT COHESION, UH, WITH, AND THAT SUBTLE CHANGE, UH, TO SUPPORT THE, THE PROPERTY AND NOT DETRACT ANYTHING FROM THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. 
          UM, SO ONCE, UH, WHEN THIS PROJECT WAS SUBMITTED, IT WAS REVIEWED BY, UH, PLANNING STAFF. 
          UH, THE EVALUATION, UH, WAS THEN, UH, SHARED WITH THE HCPC, UH, TO COLLECT YOUR FEEDBACK AS WELL. 
          UH, THERE WAS QUESTIONS TO THE MATERIALS, THE EXTERIOR, THE CONTINUATION. 
          UM, THERE WAS ALSO FEEDBACK TO UNDERSTAND, UH, WHAT THE NEW WINDOWS WERE, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTAND THE USE, UH, AND, AND HOW THAT REAR EXTENSION APPEARED. 
          UM, SO WITHIN THIS PROJECT, IT, IT WAS, UH, REVIEWED AND APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS. 
          UH, THE, THE DAY WAS PRESENTED. 
          UH, THERE ARE OTHER SCENARIOS WHERE A PROJECT IS PRESENTED TO THE HCPC AND ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IS REQUESTED. 
          UH, SO THERE IS THAT OPPORTUNITY TO EXTEND, UH, FOR, UH, THE MEETING AND, AND COME BACK WITH ADDITIONAL, UH, SUPPORTING, UM, MATERIALS THAT, THAT WOULD, UH, SUPPORT YOUR EVALUATION. 
          UM, THIS PROJECT ALSO FELT UNDER THE CQA REVIEW FOR AN EXEMPTION THROUGH A HISTORIC RESOURCE AND AN EXISTING, UH, PROPERTY. 
          UM, AND THAT WAS, UH, SUPPORTED THROUGH THE HR, THE, THE HRE, THE HISTORIC RESOURCE EVALUATION, HAVING THAT TECHNICAL, UH, 
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REPORT, UM, SUPPORTING THAT. 
          THERE WERE NO NEGATIVE IMPACTS, UH, TO MAKE THAT, UH, JUSTIFICATION FOR THE EXEMPTION. 
          UM, AND ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY? UH, AND I CAN JUMP ONTO THE NEXT ONE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SOMETIMES IT WORKS, . 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO THE SECOND CASE STUDY IS A COMMERCIAL PROJECT. 
          UH, THIS IS FOR THE HAMPTON AND EXPANSION ON THE FORMER SILK MILL, UH, HISTORIC BUILDING ON THE NORTH SIDE OF, OF CITY OF PETALUMA. 
          UM, THIS PROJECT IS MORE EXTENSIVE. 
          IT'S A LARGER SITE. 
          IT HAD, UH, A LARGER SCOPE OF WORK AS WELL. 
          UH, SO THIS CAME IN AS A MAJOR HISTORIC SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW, UH, FOR THE NEW CONSTRUCTION TO THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY, UH, UNDERSTANDING THE SITE, ITS LOCATION. 
          UH, THERE WAS THAT, UM, CONTEXT AND, AND OPPORTUNITY FOR A LANDMARK TREE DESIGNATION. 
          UH, SO WORKING WITH THE APPLICANTS, UNDERSTANDING THE CONSTRAINTS, UH, THE, THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR LANDMARK TREE DESIGNATION, AND THAT WAS, UH, EXTENDED TO THE PROPERTY. 
          UM, WITHIN THAT SCOPE OF WORK, UM, IN INTRODUCING ADDITIONAL BEDROOMS, THERE WAS THAT COMPONENT FOR EVALUATING, UM, THE ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES. 
          UH, SO WITHIN THIS PROJECT, THE, THE SCOPE, UH, EXPANDED TO HAVE AN IZO AMENDMENT TO, UM, UH, TO NOT INCREASE ADDITIONAL PARKING FOR, FOR PROPERTIES, UH, WITHIN COMMERCIAL USES HERE. 
          UM, SO ONCE WE RECEIVED A PROJECT ANALYZING, UNDERSTANDING THE CONSTRAINTS, THERE MAY BE OTHER AMENDMENTS THAT WERE, ARE REQUIRED OR OPPORTUNITIES FOR DESIGNATION. 
          UH, SO THIS IS ONE PROJECT. 
          THERE WAS THREE COMPONENTS, THREE DISCRETIONARY REVIEWS. 
          UH, THE MAJOR H BAR WAS PRESENTED TO THE HCPC, UM, AND THE LANDMARK TREE DESIGNATION AS WELL. 
          AND THAT FELL FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL THROUGH THE HCPC, UH, AND FOR THE IZO AMENDMENT, THAT WAS, UH, WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON A, A JOINT SESSION. 
          UH, SO THEY PROVIDED FEEDBACK, UM, AND, AND, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE IZO AMENDMENT TO CITY COUNCIL. 
          AND, UH, IT WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL. 
          UM, AGAIN, THIS PROJECT WENT THROUGH A SIMILAR COMPLIANCE REVIEW, UM, FOR COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, UH, THE DEMOLITION, UH, THE GENERAL PLAN, AND THE IZO, UH, AND LASTLY, THE SECRETARY OF INTERIOR STANDARDS. 
          UM, THIS PROPERTY WAS NOT IN HISTORIC DISTRICT, SO THERE WERE NO DESIGN GUIDELINES, UH, APPLICABLE TO THE SITE. 
          UM, DUE TO THE EXPANSION THOUGH, UM, UNDERSTANDING THE SILK MILL, THE HISTORY THERE, THERE IS THAT CHARACTER, UH, AND INTEGRITY TO THAT. 
          IT'S APPLIED FROM THE HISTORIC, UH, RESOURCE. 
          SO THAT WAS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION, UH, FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AND, AND THE DESIGN OF THE PROJECT. 
          UM, SO NOT JUST UNDERSTANDING WHERE IT'S LOCATED IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT, BUT IF THE SITE CAN, UH, SUPPORT AND, AND PROVIDE, UM, A DEVELOPMENT FOR THE PROPOSAL, UM, THAT THAT'S A OPPORTUNITY FOR A LARGE PROJECT SUCH AS THIS ONE. 
          UM, I DO LIKE TO SHARE THAT, UH, THIS, THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED THROUGH A BUILDING PERMIT REVIEW AND HAS BEEN, UM, UH, REVIEWED THROUGH BUILDING. 
          SO THIS IS A PROJECT THAT, THAT WOULD BE, UM, UH, PRESENTED BACK, UH, AND UPDATED, UH, WHEN THERE'S, UH, CONSTRUCTION. 
          UH, SO THIS IS A PROJECT, UH, UH, MOVING FORWARD. 
          YOU WANT TO TALK THERE. 
          AND THEN FINALLY, WE WANTED TO BE SURE THAT WE PROVIDE YOU WITH SOME ONLINE RESOURCES. 
          THIS, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL EMAIL AROUND BOTH THESE, THESE RESOURCES SO THAT YOU HAVE THEM IN AN EMAIL AS WELL AS, UM, SHARE OUT THE LINK TO, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION QUA WORKSHOP THAT DYLAN REFERRED TO EARLIER. 
          SO, UM, I THINK WE'VE JUST GOT A COUPLE OF PAGES OF, OF RESOURCES, AND THEY'RE ALL REALLY HELPFUL. 
          SO, UM, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO JUST BECOME FAMILIAR WITH THEM, MAYBE KNOW WHERE THAT INFORMATION IS SO THAT WHEN YOU HAVE A PROJECT COME BEFORE YOU, UM, YOU'VE GOT, UH, YOU'VE GOT SOME SENSE OF WHERE TO LOOK FOR GUIDANCE, BUT THEN WE'RE ALWAYS AVAILABLE, YOU KNOW, AND, UM, LIKE I SAID, THAT'S ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF, YOU KNOW, HAVING ISABELLE HERE AS A, AS A DEDICATED HISTORIC PRESERVATION SPECIALIST, IS WE CAN ALWAYS SUPPORT YOUR REVIEW OF THE PROJECTS THAT COME BEFORE YOU. 
          SO THAT CONCLUDES OUR, UH, WORKSHOP PRESENTATION. 
          UM, WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER, ANSWER QUESTIONS, ENGAGE IN DISCUSSION, OR, UM, GET YOU OUT OF HERE TO SOMEPLACE COOLER, RIGHT, , BECAUSE IT IS WARM IN HERE TONIGHT. 
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SO, UM, CHAIR. 
          OKAY. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE STAFF, UH, FROM THE COMMITTEE? NOPE. 
          SEEING AS THAT THERE ARE NO IN-PERSON, PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE, UH, DID WE RECEIVE ANY COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING? WE RECEIVED NO PUBLIC COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING FOR THIS MEETING ITEM. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT CLOSES THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD ON THIS TOPIC. 
          UM, ANY OTHER ITEMS FOR CONSIDERATION ON THIS TOPIC FROM COMMITTEE MEMBERS? ALL RIGHT, LET'S CLOSE MEETING ITEM THREE AND THEN CONTINUE WITH THE AGENDA. 
          UM, ARE THERE ANY OTHER PRESENTATIONS OR QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE MEMBERS ON OTHER TOPICS? NOPE. 
          UM, THEN I'D LIKE TO INVITE, 
          [COMMITTEE COMMENT]
UH, PLANNING MANAGER ANDREW TRIPLE TO PROVIDE THE PLANNING MA MANAGER'S REPORT. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CHAIR. 
          UH, AS, AS I COMMUNICATED WITH YOU LAST WEEK, WE DO HAVE THE, UH, REVIEW OF THE DRAFT DIR FOR THE DOWNTOWN OVERLAY AND, UM, EKN APPALACHIAN HOTEL PROJECTS, UM, PUBLISHED FOR PUBLIC REVIEW. 
          AND THAT WILL COME BEFORE YOU ON SEPTEMBER 24TH. 
          THAT'S A, A SPECIAL MEETING FOR THE COMMITTEE BECAUSE YOU TYPICALLY ONLY MEET THE FIRST TUESDAY OF THE MONTH, BUT IT IS A REGULAR MEETING FOR PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          UH, WE WILL, UM, THAT MEETING WILL BE HELD AS A JOINT MEETING. 
          AND SO, UH, TYPICALLY WHAT WE DO IN THAT CASE IS, UM, THE PRESENTATIONS WILL BE DONE TO BOTH THE, THE COMMISSION AND THE COMMITTEE QUESTIONS. 
          YOU KNOW, Q AND A WILL BE ENGAGED, UM, ACROSS BOTH THE COMMISSION AND THE COMMITTEE. 
          WE SORT OF WORK, WORK BOTH GROUPS TOGETHER UNTIL, UH, WE WOULD GET TO THE POINT OF THE COMMITTEE AND THE COMMISSION VOTING ON MAKING MOTIONS AND VOTING ON RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          THEN HCPC WOULD LEAD WITH, UH, THEIR MOTION AND VOTE ON A RECOMMENDATION, AND THEN PLAN AND COMMISSION WOULD FOLLOW UP. 
          THE REASON THAT WE DO THAT IS BECAUSE HCPC IS, UH, CERTAINLY FOR A PORTION OF THE PROJECT IS THE TECHNICAL SPECIALIST. 
          AND SO YOUR, YOUR DIALOGUE, YOUR RECOMMENDATION INFORMS PLANNING COMMISSION, AND THEY TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT THEN WHEN THEY MAKE THEIR RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL. 
          SO, UH, WE'LL BE WORKING WITH BOTH THE CHAIR OF THE COMMISSION AND WITH, UH, CHAIR WHITLEY ON THE DETAILS OF THAT JOINT MEETING. 
          BUT, UM, THAT, UH, THAT'S WHAT, UH, WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO FOR, FOR, UH, THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER. 
          WE ALSO HAVE, AS I INDICATE IN THE EMAIL, IF YOU, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A SIT DOWN WITH, UM, THE MEMBERS OF WARE SQUA TEAM TO TALK THROUGH THE EIR TO LEARN MORE ABOUT HOW TO REVIEW IT, ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT IT, JUST EMAIL ME AND, AND WE'LL CONNECT YOU. 
          AND YOU CAN SCHEDULE THOSE MEETINGS. 
          THEY CAN BE IN PERSON OR, OR THEY CAN BE REMOTE. 
          UM, I THINK MOST PEOPLE HAVE BEEN OPTING FOR REMOTE MEETINGS BECAUSE IT'S A BIT MORE CONVENIENT TO, UH, UH, TO ENGAGE IN THE VIRTUAL MEETING FORMAT. 
          AND THAT'S ALL WE HAVE, CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE ON THE PLANNING REPORT? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, IN THAT CASE THEN WE WILL ADJOURN THE MEETING AT 5:43 PM THANK YOU.
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