* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. RECORDING IN [00:00:01] PROGRESS. [CLOSED SESSION - 6:00 P.M.] UH, WELCOME ALL. GOOD EVENING, AND, UH, WELCOME TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PETALUMA CITY COUNCIL AND THE PETALUMA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT SUCCESSOR AGENCY FOR MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 16TH, 2024. UH, MAY WE HAVE OUR ROLL CALL, BARNICLE PRESENT. CATER THOMPSON. HERE. HEALY HERE NOW. HERE. . HERE. REPPS HERE. MCDONALD HERE. AND WE HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU. WE, UH, THE PURPOSE OF THESE, UH, EARLY TIME SIX O'CLOCK IS TO GO TO A CLOSED SESSION, UH, AND I'D LIKE TO INVITE OUR ATTORNEY TO DISCUSS WHAT OUR CLOSED SESSION IS THIS EVENING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. MAYOR. THE COUNCIL WILL, UM, HAVE A CONFERENCE WITH, UH, LEGAL COUNSEL REGARDING EXISTING LITIGATION. UM, THAT'S UNDER GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 4 9 5 6 9. SUBDIVISION A. UM, IT'S, UM, A WORKERS' COMPENSATION CASE. THE CLAIMANT IS BRANDON HANSEN. THE CITY IS THE ENTITY CLAIMED AGAINST, AND IT'S WORKERS' COMPENSATION CLAIM NUMBER 6 1 3 4 9 7. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO SPEAK ON, UM, THE CLOSED SESSION THAT WE'RE HAVING RIGHT NOW. ITEMS, UH, SPECIFICALLY TO THE CLOSED SESSION. UM, PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON. I'D LIKE TO INVITE OUR CLERK TO READ OUR MESSAGING FOR THE EVENING. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING IN PERSON SHOULD BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARDS TO THE CLERK'S DESK IF THEY HAVE NOT ALREADY DONE SO. SPEAKERS ARE, REMI ARE REMINDED TO BE RESPECTFUL IN THEIR COMMENTS. AND THE TIMER BEHIND THE DIOCESE WILL BE RESET FOR EACH SPEAKER. AND WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY CARDS, AND WE'RE NOT SEEING, UH, ANYONE RUSHING FORWARD. SO WE'RE GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM. AND WITH THAT, WE WILL ADJOURN TO CLOSED SESSION. AND, UM, WE WILL ENDEAVOR TO BE BACK HERE BY SIX 30. SO THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED TO CLOSED SESSION. OH, WE'RE RECORDING. WE'RE GOOD. WELL, [CALL TO ORDER] GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY, AND THIS IS OUR CALL TO ORDER. GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PETALUMA CITY COUNCIL AND THE PETALUMA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT SUCCESSOR AGENCY FROM MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 16TH, 2024. IF YOU WISH TO PROVIDE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, PLEASE FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD, THEY'RE IN THE BACK, AND, UH, BRING IT TO, UM, OUR CITY CLERK HERE IN THE FRONT. NOW I'D LIKE TO INVITE OUR, UM, MONICA APARICIO AND MARIA GALVEZ TO PROVIDE INFORMATION TO THOSE WHO WISH TO PARTICIPATE IN SPANISH TONIGHT. THANK YOU. AND GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU ALREADY. THANK YOU. UH, I, I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT WE HAVE, UH, SOME VERY GOOD SEATS UP FRONT. THEY DON'T COST ANY MORE THAN THE SEATS IN THE BACK. IF SOMEONE WOULD LIKE TO JOIN US ON THIS SIDE OR EVEN IN HERE, AND, UH, MAY I ASK THIS THE CITY CLERK TO TAKE OUR ROLL CALL FOR THE EVENING. BARNACLE PRESENT. CATER THOMPSON. HERE. HEALY HERE NOW. HERE. . HERE. SHRIVES HERE. MCDONALD HERE. AND WE HAVE A QUORUM. LET'S RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES. AMERICA TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH THE LIBERTY OF JUSTICE FOR, AND A MOMENT OF SILENCE, PLEASE. AS A NOTE, WE WILL BE CLOSING TONIGHT'S MEETING IN MEMORY OF MAX MICKELSON. UH, MAX WAS A COMMUNITY CONTRIBUTOR FOR VERY MANY YEARS, UH, [00:05:01] FAIR BOARD MEMBER IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND HE'LL BE MISSED IN, UH, PAST THIS PAST WEEK. I AM [AGENDA CHANGES AND DELETIONS (TO CURRENT AGENDA ONLY)] LOOKING UP AND DOWN THE AGENDA TO SEE IF WE HAVE ANY SUGGESTED CHANGES, DELETIONS TO OUR AGENDA. SEEING NONE WILL, UH, DO THAT BY A CLAIM AND MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM, [REPORT OUT OF CLOSED SESSION] WHICH IS A REPORT OUT OF OUR CLOSED SESSION. AND I'D LIKE TO INVITE OUR CITY ATTORNEY, ERIC DANLEY, TO, UH, ADVISE US ON THIS MATTER. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THERE IS NO ACTION TO REPORT TONIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. [PROCLAMATIONS] AND THAT MOVES US TO ONE OF OUR FUNNY, UH, EVENTS OF THE EVENING, ONE OF THE COMMUNITY APPRECIATION THINGS, UH, THAT WE DO HERE. CITY COUNCIL. UM, WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION. IT IS THE, UH, NATIONAL SERVICE DOG MONTH. AND I'D LIKE TO, AND I'D LIKE TO INVITE RON MCKISSICK AND, UH, FLORIAN FANTI FROM THE CANINE COMPANIONS TO, UH, COME TO THE, UH, FRONT TO RECEIVE THE, UH, PROCLAMATION WHILE I READ IT. WHEREAS NATIONAL SERVICE DOG MONTH IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO CELEBRATE THE JOYFUL, TRANSFORMATIVE POWER OF THE HUMAN CANINE BOND AND INCLUSIVITY. IT OFFERS ALL CITIZENS. AND WHEREAS IN THE UNITED STATES, 64 MILLION ADULTS AND CHILDREN HAVE A DISABILITY, BUT ONLY 16,000 SERVICE DOGS FROM ACCREDITED TRAINING PROGRAMS EXIST NATIONWIDE. AND THE NEED IS GROWING. CANINE COMPANIONS IS A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT ENHANCES THE LIVES OF PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES BY PROVIDING EXPERTLY TRAINED SERVICE DOGS AND ONGOING SUPPORT TO ENSURE QUALITY PARTNERSHIPS. AND WHEREAS CANINE COMPANIONS AND THEIR SERVICE DOGS EMPOWER PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES TO LEAD LIFE WITH GREATER INDEPENDENCE, BY PROVIDING BEST IN CLASS TRAINING, ONGOING FOLLOW-UP SERVICES, AND A DEEPLY COMMITTED COMMUNITY OF SUPPORT. WHEREAS NATIONAL SERVICE DOG MONTH AIMS TO EDUCATE OUR COMMUNITY ABOUT THE BENEFITS OF SERVICE DOGS AND THE LAWS PROTECTING THEM. AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF PETALUMA CONTINUES TO WORK TOWARDS BECOMING AN INCLUSIVE COMMUNITY IN WHICH ALL CITIZENS AND THEIR SERVICE DOGS ARE EMBRACED NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT I, KEVIN MCDONALD, MAYOR OF PETALUMA, ALONG WITH MEMBERS OF THE PETALUMA CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY ACKNOWLEDGE SEPTEMBER, 2024 AS NATIONAL SERVICE DOG MONTH AND ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO CELEBRATE SERVICE DOGS AND BE RESPECTFUL TO THE ADULTS, CHILDREN AND VETERANS WHO LEAD MORE INDEPENDENT LIVES BECAUSE OF THEIR ASSISTANCE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU GUYS. OH, THANK YOU SO MUCH. THIS IS A SENSITIVE MICROPHONE, AND I'M A LOUD PERSON, SO I'LL JUST GO LIKE THIS. UM, CANINE COMPANIONS WAS FOUNDED AND IS STILL HEADQUARTERED RIGHT HERE IN SONOMA COUNTY, BUT WE ARE THE LARGEST PROVIDER OF SERVICE DOGS IN THE UNITED STATES, AND WE'RE SUPER PROUD OF THAT. UM, YOU'LL SEE A NUMBER OF OUR CLIENTS AND OUR VOLUNTEER PUPPY RAISERS ARE HERE, OUR CLIENTS WITH THEIR SERVICE DOGS, AND WE'RE JUST SO EXCITED TO HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE CITY OF PETALUMA, UM, TO SAY THAT IT IS SERVICE DOG MONTH. RHONDA, DID YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING ABOUT, IT'S JUST BEEN WONDERFUL, THAT POWER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. HAPPY SERVICE DOG MONTH. [PRESENTATIONS] OUR NEXT ITEM TONIGHT IS A PRESENTATION FROM, UH, REGARDING MICRO ENTERPRISE HOME KITCHEN OPERATIONS. AND, UM, TO HELP US WITH THIS, WE HAVE, UH, CHRIS CHRISTINE SCO, WHO IS THE DIRECTOR OF ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH FOR SONOMA COUNTY HEALTH SERVICES. WELCOME. AND, UH, TAKE IT AWAY HERE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, I'M THANKFUL TO BE HERE TONIGHT. UM, I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT THE MICRO ENTERPRISE HOME KITCHEN OPERATIONS, WHICH IS REFERRED TO AS MICKOS, AND THIS ITEM WILL BE GOING BEFORE SONOMA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. UM, OUR SLIDE HERE SAYS OCTOBER 8TH, BUT IT'S BEEN PUSHED TO OCTOBER 22ND. NEXT SLIDE. [00:10:03] SO, UM, OOPS, WE WENT TO, SORRY, , SORRY. UM, THE MICRO ENTERPRISE HOME KITCHENS WERE, UM, IT'S A LAW THAT CAME INTO EFFECT BACK IN 2017, AND THAT WAS AB 6 26. AND THIS REALLY IS, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SMALL SCALE RESTAURANTS TO BE OPERATED OUT OF A HOME AND FOR THOSE RESIDENTS, UM, TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF GIVE A FOOD FACILITY A TRY WITH THAT LOWER ENTRY INTO THE BUSINESS. AND, UM, THERE'VE BEEN A COUPLE, UH, CHANGES TO THIS LAW OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS. THE MOST RECENT ONE WAS AB 1325, WHICH HAPPENED LAST YEAR, AND THAT RAISED THE LIMITS ON THE AMOUNT OF MEALS THAT YOU CAN SERVE AND ALSO THE, UH, TOTAL REVENUE FOR THE YEAR. NEXT SLIDE. SO, UM, MIKO OR HOME-BASED BUSINESSES, LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, IT'S A LOWER CAPITAL TO GET INTO THAT BUSINESS AND A LOWER BARRIER, AND THEY WERE REALLY SET UP FOR THOSE LIKE DISADVANTAGED PERSONS THAT WANNA START A FOOD RELATED BUSINESS BUT DON'T HAVE THAT CAPITAL TO START OUT. THEY ALSO REALLY, UM, INCREASE THAT COMMUNITY ACCESS TO FOODS. OFTEN THOSE CULTURAL FOODS THAT YOU CAN'T FIND AT OTHER PLACES, YOU CAN FIND THROUGH, UM, A NEIGHBOR THAT POSSIBLY MAKES THOSE FOODS OR SOMETHING. AND THEN, UM, THE REALITY, WHAT WE'RE FINDING TOO IS A LOT OF THESE SMALL SCALE BUSINESSES ARE ALREADY OPERATING WITHIN THE COUNTY AND THROUGHOUT THE STATE. AND SO BY CREATING THIS PROGRAM, IT'S PROVIDING THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO COME UNDER PERMIT AND HAVE BETTER HEALTH AND SAFETY, UM, OVERSIGHT FOR THE COMMUNITY. SO, NEXT SLIDE. SO FOR THE MCOS, THERE ARE A LOT OF REQUIREMENTS, AND THE FIRST REQUIREMENT IS THAT THE OPERATOR OF THE MECO HAS TO BE A RESIDENT OF A PRIVATE HOME. AND THEY ALSO HAVE TO HOLD A FOOD SAFETY MANAGER CERTIFICATION, WHICH IS A WHOLE FOOD SAFETY TRAINING ABOUT, UM, PREPARATION AND COLD HOLDING AND HOT HOLDING AND TEMPERATURES AND, UM, OVERALL SANITATION. AND THAT, UM, AS FAR AS EMPLOYEES WORKING THERE, THEY CAN HAVE ANY MEMBER OF THEIR HOUSEHOLD OR, UM, A FAMILY MEMBER WORKING FOR THEM. AND THEN THEY CAN HAVE UP TO ONE EMPLOYEE, UM, THAT'S NOT A FAMILY MEMBER OR A HOUSEHOLD MEMBER. AND THEN ALL OF THOSE EMPLOYEES OR FAMILY MEMBERS HAVE TO HAVE A, UM, FOOD SAFETY CARD, WHICH IS KIND OF A SHORTENED VERSION OF THE FOOD SAFETY MANAGER CERTIFICATION. UM, IF THE RESIDENCE IS LEASED OR RENTED, WE WOULD BE ASKING FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER ALSO, UM, TO APPROVE THE USE. AND THEN, UM, BAS I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S EVERYTHING ON THAT SLIDE. SORRY. UM, THEN, UH, AS FAR AS THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS, THEY HAVE TO COOK THE FOOD, THEY HAVE TO PREPARE IT, COOK IT, AND SERVE IT ALL IN THE SAME DAY. THEY CAN. UM, THE SALES ARE LIMITED TO 30 MEALS PER DAY, OR 90 MEALS PER WEEK. AND A GR LIMITED TO A GROSS ANNUAL SALES OF A HUNDRED THOUSAND ANNUALLY. THIS USED TO BE AT 50,000 ANNUALLY. THAT, UH, CHANGE THAT HAPPENED RECENTLY MOVED IT TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND. AND THEN, UM, MEALS CAN BE CONSUMED ON SITE, OR THEY CAN BE PICKED UP OR DELIVERED THROUGH AN EMPLOYEE OR AN INTERMEDIARY SERVICE. AND THAT INTERMEDIARY SERVICE HAS TO BE REGISTERED WITH CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH. WHAT THIS MEANS IS THEY CAN'T USE LIKE GRUBHUB OR UBER EATS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO DELIVER THE MEALS. UM, AND THEN THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE ANY SORT OF OUTDOOR SIGNAGE. AND, UM, ALL FOOD PREPARATION HAS TO OCCUR IN THE KIT KITCHEN OF THE RESIDENCE. [00:15:02] YOU CANNOT ADD LIKE AN AUXILIARY KITCHEN IN YOUR, IN YOUR GARAGE OR OUT ON A BACK PORCH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT HAS TO BE IN YOUR PRIMARY KITCHEN. NEXT SLIDE. SO THE HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE LIMITATIONS ON THIS. THERE'S SOME DIFFERENCES BETWEEN A MIKO AND A GENERAL RESTAURANT THAT YOU WOULD FIND. UM, ONE IS ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH. NORMALLY FOR A FULL SCALE RESTAURANT, WE CONDUCT ANYWHERE FROM TWO TO THREE INSPECTIONS A YEAR, AND THOSE ARE UNANNOUNCED INSPECTIONS. WITH AMICO, WE WOULD ONLY BE ALLOWED TO DO ONE INSPECTION PER YEAR, AND WE WOULD CALL AHEAD TO SCHEDULE THAT INSPECTION. UM, BUT WE ARE ABLE TO GO AND DO ADDITIONAL INSPECTIONS IF THERE'S A COMPLAINT OR IF THERE'S A SUSPECTED HEALTH HAZARD SUCH AS A FOODBORNE ILLNESS OR SOMETHING. AND THEN, UM, SOME OF THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN RESTAURANTS AND AMIGO IS THEY DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THE DEDICATED HAND WASHING SINK ALONG WITH A DISH, WASHING SINK AND A FOOD PREP SINK. SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO HAVE ALL THE DIFFERENT SINKS. THEY CAN JUST HAVE ONE MAIN SINK THAT THEY WORK OUT OF. AND THEN THEIR HOODS ARE JUST THE STANDARD RESIDENTIAL HOODS. UM, THEY DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THE FULL ANSEL SYSTEM THAT A RESTAURANT WOULD HAVE TO HAVE. UM, ANIMALS ARE NOT EXCLUDED FROM THE COOKING AREA. UM, IT'S DEFINITELY RECOMMENDED THAT THEY'RE EXCLUDED FROM THE COOKING AREA, BUT WE KNOW THAT HAVING DOGS AND CATS IN YOUR HOME, THEY'RE GONNA WANDER INTO YOUR KITCHEN SO THEY'RE NOT EXCLUDED. AND THEN A DA REQUIREMENTS DO NOT APPLY TO AMIGO. AND NEXT SLIDE. UM, SO ZONING AND LAND USE IS WHERE MCOS GETS A LITTLE INTERESTING. THE WAY THEY'RE SET UP IS IF THE COUNTY OPTS INTO THIS PROGRAM, THE CITIES ALL OPT INTO THE PROGRAM ALONG WITH THE COUNTY, AND VICE VERSA, THEY, IF THE COUNTY WERE TO OPT OUT, OPT OUT OF THE PROGRAM, THE CITIES WOULD ALSO BE OPTING OUT. UM, AND THEY ALSO ARE A BY RIGHT USE IN RESIDENTIAL OCCUPANCY OCCUPANCY. SO AS FAR AS YOUR ZONING OR LOCAL ZONING OR BUILDING REGULATIONS, THEY WOULD NOT APPLY TO THESE FACILITIES. AND THEN THEY'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE A HEALTH PERMIT. UM, AND THEY CAN ALSO BE REQUIRED TO HAVE A BUSINESS LICENSE WITH THE CITY. BUT EVERYTHING WOULD GO THROUGH ONE, ONE ENTITY, AND THAT WOULD BE SONOMA COUNTY ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH. AND THEN THE LAW DOES ALLOW FOR ENFORCEMENT OF NOISE AND NUISANCE ORDINANCES. AND NEXT SLIDE. SO, UM, I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THE ONE INSPECTION EVERY 12 MONTHS AND THAT THE PERMIT COULD BE RENEWED ANNUALLY, AND THEN THIS PROGRAM WOULD NOT GO INTO THE PLACARDING GRADING SYSTEM. SO WHEN YOU GO OUT TO EAT IN THE COUNTY, YOU SEE THOSE, UH, RED, YELLOW, AND GREEN SIGNS, YOU WOULD NOT BE SEEING THOSE ON MICKOS. AND THEN, UM, WE WOULD REALLY BE ASKING A LOT OF OUR PARTNER AGENCIES, SO CODE ENFORCEMENT, UM, PLANNING, POLICE AND FIRE, IF THERE'S ANY SORT OF NUISANCE OR SOMETHING THAT COMES UP, WE'D WANT TO PARTNER WITH THE CITIES AND DO THOSE INVESTIGATIONS. AND NEXT SLIDE. UM, SO THIS LAST YEAR, SONOMA COUNTY WAS SUCCESSFUL IN RECEIVING A GRANT FOR $138,000. AND THIS GRANT WAS SET UP FOR US TO LOOK AT IMPLEMENTING THE MECO PROGRAM. WHAT'S UNUSUAL ABOUT THIS GRANT IS IT DOES NOT REQUIRE THAT WE IMPLEMENT THE PROGRAM, JUST THAT WE LOOK AT IMPLEMENTATION. AND THEN, UM, THERE, WHEN THIS GRANT CAME OUT, THERE WERE 15 JURISDICTIONS THAT, UM, HAVE ALREADY OPTED INTO THE MECO PROGRAM, AND NOW THERE ARE 16 JURISDICTIONS THAT ARE LOOKING AT OPTING INTO IT AS WE SPEAK. [00:20:02] UM, THE OTHER THING THAT'S NICE ABOUT THIS GRANT IS IT ALLOWS FOR OFFSETTING OF PERMIT FEES. SO ONE OF THE THOUGHTS AS FAR AS IMPLEMENTATION IS IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROGRAM, WE WOULD TRY TO WAIVE THE FEES FOR THE FIRST YEAR FOR EVERYBODY COMING IN TO TRY TO INCREASE THAT OPPORTUNITY. SO NEXT SLIDE. SO IN 2021, WE UM, DID SOME OUTREACH TO THE CITIES. AND, UM, IN 2021, IF YOU RECALL, WE WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF COVID. THERE WAS A LOT GOING ON, AND KOS WERE JUST STARTING OUT IN SOME OF THESE OTHER COUNTIES. AND SO WE DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION. AND SO AT THAT TIME, WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT IN GENERAL, EVERYBODY WAS SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROGRAM'S GOALS AND REALLY WHAT THE PROGRAM STOOD FOR. BUT THERE WERE STILL JUST ENOUGH QUESTIONS OUT THERE THAT THERE WERE KIND OF MIXED FEELINGS ABOUT WHETHER WE SHOULD OPT IN AT THAT TIME. SO THE ITEM WAS PUSHED, AND NOW WE'RE BRINGING THE ITEM BACK. SO THE NEXT SLIDE, SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TODAY IS A MIKO PROGRAM, AND WE WOULD BE OPTING FULLY INTO THAT MECO PROGRAM. AND THERE'S ONE EXCEPTION THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, AND THAT IS THAT, UM, THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE COMPLIANCE WITH YOUR GENERAL PLAN. SO EARLIER I SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, YOUR ZONING AND BUILDING DOCUMENTS WOULD NOT APPLY, BUT YOUR GENERAL PLAN DOCUMENT WOULD APPLY IN THIS CASE AND NEXT SLIDE. AND SO REALLY THE NEXT STEPS IS, YOU KNOW, ARE TO REACH OUT TO THE COUNTY, LET US KNOW WHAT YOUR FEELINGS ARE, HOW, YOU KNOW, IF, IF, UH, CITY OF PETALUMA WANTS TO SUPPORT THE PROGRAM, HAS ANY CONCERNS, ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE, LIKE INCORPORATED INTO THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PROGRAM. ALL THAT FEEDBACK IS REALLY WONDERFUL WHEN WE GO TO THE BOARD ON THE 22ND OF OCTOBER. AND THAT'S IT. YOU THINK? SO, ANY QUESTIONS? RIGHT? THAT'S THE NEXT STEP HERE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE, UM, UH, PRESENTATION. I'D LIKE TO, UH, LOOK UP AND DOWN THE, UH, DIETS AND SEE IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS. UH, VICE MAYOR, UM, YES, SINCE, UH, SINCE 21, UH, LOOKS LIKE THAT WE'VE HAD SEVERAL, ABOUT 15 COUNTIES THAT HAVE OPTED IN. DO WE HAVE SOME STORIES OR SOME DATA NOW AFTER TWO, THREE YEARS SINCE THEN, UH, UH, HOW THESE PROGRAMS ARE OPERATING IN THOSE COUNTIES. SO WE'RE FINDING THEY'VE BEEN REALLY POSITIVE. THE RESULTS HAVE BEEN GREAT, UM, COMING IN FROM ALL COUNTIES, VERY FEW COMPLAINTS OR CONCERNS THAT HAVE COME UP. UM, WE'RE FINDING THAT ABOUT 90% OF THESE BUSINESSES ARE OPERATING AS TAKEOUT DELIVERY. SO A LOT OF THE NUISANCE CONCERNS THAT WERE COMING UP EARLIER ABOUT LIKE NOISE OR MUSIC AND ALL OF THAT, UH, COMING UP AROUND A FACILITY, WE'RE FINDING THAT THAT IS, UM, A LOT LESS THAN WAS ORIGINALLY THOUGHT. UM, AND THEN SOME OF THE OTHER INTERESTING FACTS IS ABOUT 75, 80% OF THESE BUSINESSES ARE WOMEN OWNED AND ALSO MIN MINORITY OWNED. GOOD. AND I KNOW, UH, IN INDIA THERE WAS LIKE, UH, PROGRAMS TO GET, UM, WOMEN PARTICULARLY STARTED IN SMALL BUSINESSES, SMALL BUSINESS LOANS. UH, DOES THIS COME ALONG WITH A, POSSIBLY A MICROLOAN SYSTEM THAT WE WORK WITH, EITHER AT THE COUNTY OR WORK WITH THE LOCAL BANKS? SO THERE'S ACTUALLY A REALLY INTERESTING PROGRAM OUT RIGHT NOW. UM, IT'S THROUGH COOKS ALLIANCE AND COOK'S ALLIANCE HAS BEEN THE SUPPORTER OF MICKOS. THEY HAVE SOMETHING CALLED COOK'S ACADEMY. AND IF SOMEBODY IS INTERESTED IN STARTING A MIKO, THEY CAN ENROLL IN THE COOK'S ACADEMY AND THEY CAN GET COLLEGE CREDITS FOR THAT ACADEMY WORK. AND THEN THEY'RE ALSO ELIGIBLE FOR A $3,000 GRANT AT THE END OF THAT COURSE, AND THEY CAN USE THAT GRANT TO START INTO THE MIKO BUSINESS. AND THEN WE'RE ALSO PARTNERING WITH EDB AND, UM, LIKE COUNTY AUDITORS AND ALL THE OTHER AGENCIES, AND WE'RE CREATING LIKE A, UM, HUB FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE LOOKING AT GETTING INTO THE BUSINESS AND TRYING TO LINK EVERYBODY UP SO THAT YOU DO, YOU KNOW, YOU TOUCH WITH, UM, EDB AND YOU TOUCH WITH LEGAL SERVICES IN TOUCH WITH ALL THOSE OTHER [00:25:01] AGENCIES TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER RESOURCES AVAILABLE. UM, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER HEALY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. IT LOOKS PRETTY BENIGN AND UH, I DON'T REALLY SEE A LOT OF DOWNSIDE TO IT. UM, I WAS CURIOUS, YOU MENTIONED THAT A VERY HIGH PERCENTAGE OF THE MALES ARE TAKEOUT. UM, WHY WOULD THE LEGISLATURE BAN DOORDASH FROM THAT SCENARIO? I THINK THE ORIGINAL, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT REASON, BUT THE ORIGINAL PART IS THIS CDP, UM, CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH. THEY'LL HAVE A FULL WEBSITE AND IT WILL LIST ALL THE DIFFERENT MECO, UM, OPERATIONS THAT ARE GOING ON. AND THEN IT, IT'LL TELL YOU A LOT OF TIMES LIKE WHAT MEALS ARE BEING SERVED AND THAT, AND THEN THEY ARE REALLY WANTING TO KEEP IT AS A FAMILY BUSINESS. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S LIMITED TO JUST THE ONE EMPLOYEE. AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE IT COMES DOWN TO NOT BRINGING IN A THIRD PARTY TO DO THE DELIVERY. OKAY. THANKS COUNCIL MEMBER. NOW, UM, CAN YOU HELP ME WITH, UM, THE SCENARIO? SO A PERSON GETS APPROVED, THEY MAKE 30 MEALS. DOES THAT MEAN 30 DIFFERENT VEHICLES WOULD COME TO THEIR HOME AND PICK UP THESE MEALS? 'CAUSE I'M, I'M, I'M SEEING THAT THERE COULD BE A TRAFFIC IN A SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD AND PARKING SITUATION. SO COULD YOU HELP ME WITH THAT SCENARIO? YEAH, SO FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD SAY MOST FAMILIES WOULD PROBABLY BUY LIKE THREE OR FOUR MEALS. SO YOU PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE 30 INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE SHOWING UP FOR THAT. UM, AND THEN YOU CAN ALSO HAVE THE DELIVERY. SO YOU MIGHT HAVE, LET'S SAY, YOU KNOW, 10, 15 CARS THAT WOULD SHOW UP AND PICK UP A MEAL, UH, AND ACROSS WHATEVER SPAN OF TIME THAT THEY'RE OPERATING. OKAY. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. , COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLE. YEAH, I GUESS, UH, GOOD FOLLOW UP TO COUNCIL MEMBER. NOW QUESTION, IS THERE A REASON FOR THE CAPS ON MEALS PER WEEK OF 90? THIS IS ALL PART OF WHAT'S BEEN PUT IN THE LEGISLATION. YEAH, AND I THINK IT REALLY IS. THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT BEGINNING OPPORTUNITY TO START OUT IN A BUSINESS MM-HMM. . SO THEY DIDN'T WANNA HAVE THOSE CAPS TOO HIGH, BUT THEY WANTED TO HAVE 'EM HIGH ENOUGH THAT SOMEBODY CAN AT LEAST BE SUCCESSFUL AND POSSIBLY GET THEMSELVES READY TO GO INTO A BUSINESS AFTER THIS BY A B BRICK AND MORTAR, OR LEASE A BRICK AND MORTAR AND GO ONTO THAT. AWESOME. WELL, I'M JUST SAY, I, I SUPPORT THIS. I'VE USED THESE BEFORE IN OTHER PLACES WHERE I'VE LIVED, AND THEY'RE GREAT WAY TO HELP PEOPLE. SO THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER CAN CATER THOMPSON. QUICK C CLARIFICATION. IF SOMEBODY WAS A BREAD MAKER, WOULD THAT BE, COULD THAT BE INCLUDED IN THIS OR IS THIS JUST FOOD? IF, IF SOMEBODY IS ACTUALLY MAKING BREAD, THERE'S, THERE'S A PROGRAM ALREADY CALLED COTTAGE FOOD. OKAY. AND THEY COULD ACTUALLY QUALIFY FOR THAT PROGRAM. THAT'S SOME NON POTENTIALLY HAZARDOUS FOODS. SO LIKE BREAD, THEY'RE SHELF STABLE. UM, AND THEY CAN, THEY CAN, THEY CAN ALREADY ENTER INTO THAT. OKAY. AND WOULD THAT BE THE SAME WITH BAKING, LIKE CAKES, COOKIES, CAKES, COOKIES? ALL OF THAT WOULD GO THERE. GETS A LITTLE TRICKY WITH, UM, LIKE CREAM CHEESE FROSTING, BECAUSE THAT HAS TO BE REFRIGERATED. SO AS LONG AS YOU'RE COOKING THINGS THAT ARE SHELF STABLE, THEN YOU CAN QUALIFY FOR THE COTTAGE FOOD. IF, IF THEY'RE NOT SHELF STABLE, THEN THE MIKA WOULD BE A GOOD ANSWER. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN POKAY. SO CAN WE HAVE A MOTION TO, UH, SUPPORT THIS TONIGHT? OR ? NO, AS A PRESENTATION, IT'S, UH, WE, WE DO NOT MAKE, UH, UH, THAT KIND OF MOTION. BUT THAT IS, UH, AN INTERESTING WAY TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE GIVE OUR CO FEEDBACK TO THE COUNTY ON THIS, SINCE IT'S THE COUNTY THAT'S GONNA ACTUALLY TAKE AN ACTION. AND I BELIEVE KADI AND PERHAPS OTHERS HAVE ALREADY, UH, GIVEN A LETTER OF SUPPORT. YEAH, WE'VE RECEIVED A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM KADI, AND THEN WE'VE AND THEN WE RECEIVE SUPPORT FROM RONER PARK AND SONOMA. WONDERFUL. MM-HMM, . AND I THINK, UM, THERE WERE A COUPLE OTHER POINTS AT THE MAYOR'S MEETING THAT I'D LIKE TO, UH, HAVE YOU ADDRESS. UH, ONE QUICK CONCERN WAS ALCOHOL. IF YOU HAVE A, UM, IF YOU HAVE A FOOD SERVING BUSINESS, DO YOU HAVE ALCOHOL PERMITS? YOU CAN HAVE AN ALCOHOL PERMIT, YOU CAN HAVE AN A, B, C PERMIT, BUT YOU WOULD BE PERMITTED AS THOUGH YOU ARE A BAR. SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO ADHERE TO BORROW [00:30:01] HOURS AND YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO HAVE ANY OTHER ALCOHOL IN YOUR PREMISE. SO FOR INSTANCE, IF YOU GET A BEER WINE LICENSE, YOU COULD ONLY HAVE BEER AND WINE ON YOUR PROPERTY. IF YOUR FRIEND SHOWED UP WITH A BOTTLE OF OTHER ALCOHOL, YOU COULD BE IN, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD HAVE A PROBLEM WITH YOUR PERMIT AT THAT POINT. THE OTHER THING IS, WE'RE SEEING THAT SO FAR NOBODY HAS APPLIED FOR THE A B, C LICENSE. AND I THINK THE REASON WHY IS IT WOULD DRIVE YOUR SALES UP SO QUICKLY THAT YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO ALL THOSE MEALS. THANK YOU. THE OTHER POINT THAT BROUGHT UP WAS, UM, INSURANCE. THERE'S NO INSURANCE REQUIREMENT ON THIS. AND, UH, THE CITIES WERE CONCERNED THAT, UH, THEY HAVE AN ENFORCEMENT RESPONSIBILITY AS A PARTNER TO THE COUNTY. THE COUNTY PERMITS, BUT THE CITY ENFORCES CODE OR CODE COMPLIANCE ENFORCEMENT, AND THERE'S NO INSURANCE. ARE WE EXPOSED AS CITIES? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT AT THIS POINT. UM, I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING, WHEN WE DO THIS IMPLEMENTATION, I REALLY WANNA PARTNER WITH LEGAL SERVICES TO MAKE SURE THAT ANYBODY APPLYING HAS ALL THOSE DETAILS AND KNOWS WHAT KIND OF LIABILITY THEY'RE COMING INTO. AND THEN I THINK ALSO TO YOUR POINT, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO KNOW AS COUNTY AND AS THE CITIES, WHAT OUR LIABILITY WOULD BE. WONDERFUL. THANK YOU. GREAT PRESENTATION. I, I, UM, APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING ISSUES THAT ARE COMING TO US BEFORE THEY GET TO US, SO, AND ASKING OUR, UH, INPUT ON IT TOO. SO, WONDERFUL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH TONIGHT. YEAH, THANK YOU. AND, UM, WE ALSO HAVE, UM, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT COMING UP AND, UM, IF YOU WISH TO ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THE ME OR, UM, IF YOU WISH TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT MIKO, THAT WOULD ALSO BE AN APPROPRIATE TIME TO PROVIDE THAT INPUT SO THAT WE CAN HEAR, THE COUNCIL CAN HEAR THAT. [GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT] AND THAT DOES TAKE US TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THE NIGHT. UH, DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON ITEMS OF PUBLIC INTEREST THAT ARE WITHIN THE CITY COUNCIL'S SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION, AND THAT ARE NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA ELSEWHERE. PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON, DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF PERSONS WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL TIME WILL BE ALLOCATED IN EQUAL SHARES TOTALING NO MORE THAN 20 MINUTES. I'D LIKE TO ASK THE CLERK IF WE RECEIVED ANY EMAILS OR, UH, OTHER INPUT. YES, WE'VE RECEIVED 11 PUBLIC COMMENTS, UH, OR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS, AND THOSE ARE POSTED TO THE WEBSITE. AND, UM, PLEASE READ OUR MESSAGING FOR THE EVENING. YES. AT THIS TIME, I WILL START A 32ND CLOCK FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. UM, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING IN PERSON SHOULD BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARDS TO THE CLERK'S DESK IF THEY HAVE NOT ALREADY DONE SO. SPEAKERS ARE REMINDED TO BE RESPECTFUL IN THEIR COMMENTS AND THAT THIS MEETING IS BEING TRANSLATED. PLEASE PAUSE BETWEEN SENTENCES FOR TRANSLATION. AND WE HAVE 15, UM, SPEAKER CARDS TONIGHT. AND SO THAT'S GONNA BE AT ONE MINUTE PER SPEAKER CARD TONIGHT. AND, UM, WE'LL START WITH GEORGE SCORCA AND, UH, FOLLOWED BY CHRIS PARKER. THANK YOU. I'M GLAD FOR, UH, THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, EXPRESS MY CONCERN ABOUT THE REUSABLE CUT PROGRAM THAT YOU HAVE AUTHORIZED PUT INTO PRO INTO PRACTICE FOR PETALUMA. NOW IT'S A PILOT PROGRAM, BUT I THINK IT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA. IT'S A BAD IDEA. AND I'D LIKE YOU TO TRY TO PUT YOURSELF IN MY SHOES. UH, IF I DESCRIBE A LITTLE BIT, I HAVE IN MY HOUSEHOLD A PERSON WHO IS, UM, UM, BASICALLY VERY REACTIVE TO TOXIC THINGS. AND, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, THE SPRAYS IN THE AIR, THE PESTICIDES AND THINGS. AND BY THE WAY, I WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO THE COUNCIL FOR AVOIDING THE USE OF ROUNDUP, UH, AND PUTTING IN, UH, AS I UNDERSTAND, USING AN, A MORE NATURAL SUBSTANCE TO DEAL WITH WEED ABATEMENT. BUT, UM, SEVERAL TIMES A WEEK, I, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HELPS THIS PERSON IN MY HOUSEHOLD, SHE HAS EXTREME ASTHMA, EXTREME ALLERGIES, EXTREME ALLERGIES. ONE OF THE THINGS HAS HELPED IS COFFEE, UH, AND I APOLOGIZE ONE MINUTE GOES VERY FAST. AND THAT WAS THE ONE MINUTE TIME FOR YOUR SPEAKING TONIGHT. OKAY. AND, UH, IMPORTANT FOR [00:35:01] EVERYONE TO REMEMBER. ALL COMMENTS CAN BE TRANSMITTED TO THE CITY, EITHER TURNED TO THE, TO THE CLERK OR EMAILED IN. AND SO I KNOW THE ONE MINUTE IS VERY SHORT. HOW, HOW WOULD I PURSUE THIS TO GO FURTHER WITH IT? UM, THE CLERK CAN ADVISE YOU IF YOU WANT TO VISIT WITH HER. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOUR UNINTENTIONAL CONSEQUENCES FOR YOUR PROGRAM. AND I, I THINK IT'S, IT'S BAD TO PUT HOT LIQUID, LIQUID INKY. I APPRECIATE YOU GETTING THOSE COMMENTS INTO THE CLERK. THANK YOU. HOW CAN I PROCEED, CHRIS? UH, PARKER TO BE FOLLOWED BY CATHERINE BOBOWSKI. EMAIL IT TO ME. THANK YOU. OKAY, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, MY NAME'S CHRIS PARKER. I'M A RESIDENT AT, UH, YOUNGSTOWN MOBILE HOME PARK AND A THE SECRETARY FOR THE, UH, YOUNGSTOWN CHAPTER OF G-S-M-O-L. I'D LIKE TO THANK THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THE INVALUABLE AID THAT THEY HAVE DONE, UH, IN THE, UH, EFFORT TO PRESERVE, UH, AFFORDABLE SENIOR HOUSING. THE, UH, UPDATES TO THE RENT STABILIZATION ORDINANCE AND THE, UH, SENIOR PARK OVERLAY ABSOLUTELY INVALUABLE TO THIS CONTINUING EFFORT. AND I JUST, UH, LIKE TO SAY THAT WHAT WE NEED GOING FORWARD FROM YOU IS CONSISTENT ENFORCEMENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. CATHERINE BOBOWSKI TO BE FOLLOWED BY JODY JOHNSON. YES, MY NAME'S KEN BROSKI. I LIVE AT THE LITTLE WOODS VILLA MOBILE HOME PARK, AND THAT PARK IS BREAKING EVERY SINGLE LAW IN A BOOK, EVERY SINGLE LAW. WE GOT A, A GUY THAT'S PARKED AGAINST MY PLACE ILLEGALLY WHERE A PROPANE TANK THERE THAT'S NOT A PARKING AREA. VEHICLES ARE PARKED ON THE FIRE LANES. UH, THE MANAGER IS FAMILY. THEY SCREAM IN THE STREETS AT NIGHT AFTER 11 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT, 12 O'CLOCK, ONE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING. UH, WE GOT A BEND AND THEY GOT THE DUMPSTERS OUT OUTSIDE ON PERRY LANE. THAT'S CITY PROPERTY, NOT LITTLEWOODS PROPERTY. AND ALSO, TOO, ANOTHER THING I WANT TO ASK YOU. HOW COME THESE PRESENTATIONS TAKE MORE THAN ONE, MORE THAN FIVE MINUTES WHEN THE, THE PUBLIC HAS ONLY ONE MINUTE TO TALK. THAT'S NOT FAIR. THANK YOU. JODY JOHNSON SHOULD BE FOLLOWED BY KATE POLAND. GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL AND CITY STAFF. AS WE HAVE DONE FOR A YEAR AND FOUR MONTHS NOW, WE'VE COME TOGETHER AS RESIDENTS OF MOBILE PARKS AND PETALUMA TO SPEAK OUT AND SPEAK UP. WE LIVE AT DIFFERENT PARKS, BUT WE ARE ALL EXPERIENCING THE ASSAULT BY LARGE INVESTMENT GROUPS ON OUR RESIDENTS, ON OUR MENTAL HEALTH, AND ON OUR FUTURE. WE LIVE IN OUR OWNED MOBILE HOMES AND NEVER ASKED FOR THESE ATTACKS ON OUR RIGHTS. WE DIDN'T SEEK TO BE IN THE NEWS OR SEEK CREDIT FOR THE ENDLESS ADVOCACY NEEDED. WE SOUGHT PROTECTION, WE SOUGHT RESPECT FOR LAWS AND ORDINANCES, AND WE SOUGHT TO SAFEGUARD OUR HOUSING FOR OUR SENIORS WHO ARE LIVING A WELL-EARNED RETIREMENT. AND FOR OUR FAMILIES WORKING MULTIPLE JOBS TO GIVE THEIR FAMILY AND CHILDREN SECURITY. WE HAVE DONE THE HARD WORK OF LISTENING, UNDERSTANDING, IMPLEMENTING AND SECURING REVISIONS AND SENIOR PARK OVERLAYS. YOU ALL HAVE DONE THE HARD WORK OF LISTENING FAIRLY TO BOTH SIDES, UNDERSTANDING AND APPLYING THE INTENT OF YOUR CIVIL OR CITY ORDINANCES, AND TAKING THE TIME BEFORE ANY VOTE TO SEE THE BIGGER PICTURE WITH US. WE ARE YOUR NEIGHBORS. WE ARE YOUR GRANDPARENTS. WE ARE YOUR MOTHERS AND FATHERS, DAUGHTERS AND SONS. THANK YOU KAY POLAND, TO BE FOLLOWED BY JOHN O'BRIEN. WE ARE PETALUMA BECAUSE WE CHOOSE TO OWN IN THIS CITY. WE ARE NOT HARD TO DEAL WITH. WE ARE NOT REPRESENTED BY ANYONE BUT OURSELVES. IT'S OUR RESIDENTS, VOICES THAT MATTER. NOT ANYONE CLAIMING THEY KNOW OUR PLIGHT OR OUR PLAN. EVERY RESIDENT HERE FROM COUNCIL MEETING TO COUNCIL MEETING IS HERE BECAUSE THEY CHOOSE TO COME. THEY CHOOSE TO BE A PART OF THE SOLUTION. THEY CHOOSE TO STAND UP FOR THEIR RIGHTS. WE ARE NOT HOPELESS BECAUSE INFORMATION IS POWER AND SOLIDARITY AND POWERS CHANGE. CAPRI HAD A WIN THIS LAST WEEK WITH THEIR ARBITRATION FOLLOWED BY UNLAWFUL INCREASES IN THREE DAY NOTICES. CAPRI RESIDENTS ARE DOING THE WORK TO SHOW THAT THEIR RIGHTS HAVE BEEN VIOLATED FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. THEY ARE HUMBLE, BUT DRIVEN. THEY ARE HARDWORKING AND PEACEFUL. THEY ARE INSPIRING IN THE PROTECTION OF THE FELLOW NEIGHBORS. YOUNGSTOWN, SENIOR CITIZENS ARE UNITED BUT FEARFUL WHO CAN BLAME THEM AFTER DAY IN AND DAY OUT, INTIMIDATION, RETALIATION, AND COMPLETE DISREGARD FOR THEIR WELLBEING. THE SENIOR CITIZENS ARE INSPIRING AS THEY STAND WITH KANE'S WALKERS OR PHYSICAL IMPAIRMENTS. ONE THING IS FOR SURE, THANK YOU, UM, JOHN O'BRIEN TO BE FOLLOWED BY NICOLA FRY. HELLO AND THANK YOU. IN THE PAST, [00:40:01] I'VE ONLY HAD A PROBLEM WITH MY LATERAL BEING CUT IN THE MIDDLE OF WASHINGTON STREET AND DUMPING IN THE STREET, BUT NOT WELL. THE OTHER DAY I CAME OUTTA MY HOUSE AND NEXT TO MY HOUSE WAS A TRUCK, SAID, UM, HYDRO CORROSION. AND I WALKED AROUND AND I ASKED THEM, WHAT ARE YOU, UH, DOING? AND THEY SAID, PG E HIRED THEM TO STUDY THE, UH, NATURAL GAS LINES TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS NO DAMAGE. AND I'M THINKING OF WHAT MY HOUSE IS PUTTING DOWN THERE. AND I THINKING, SOAPS BLEACH YOU IN VINEGAR, SALTS, UH, COULD ANY OF THAT. ANYWAY, I SAID, DID ANYONE TELL YOU THAT MY HOME HAS BEEN DISCHARGING BAD STUFF? AND THEY SAID, WE CAN'T TALK TO YOU. I SAID, WELL, CAN YOU TELL YOUR BOSS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING IN AN AREA IT'S 14 FEET DOWN, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO SEE IT. AND, UH, THEY SAID, WE CAN'T TALK TO YOU. SO I SPOKE TO THE PEOPLE ACROSS THE STREET, THE ELDER CARE ORCHARDS, UH, VALLEY ORCHARDS AT SPRINGFIELD'S PLACE. THANK YOU. UM, AND PLEASE TURN IN THE, THE REST OF THE COMMENTS TO OUR CLERK. UH, OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS NICK NICOLA FRY TO BE FOLLOWED BY MAUREEN SHAW. HELLO. I HAVE TWO THINGS TODAY. ONE IS THAT I WANNA REMIND YOU THAT SEPTEMBER 30TH THROUGH OCTOBER 6TH IS WEAK WITHOUT DRIVING. ABOUT 34% OF THE POPULATION OF THE UNITED STATES DOES NOT HAVE ACCESS TO A CAR OR NOR CAN THEY USE A CAR. SO WE'RE ASKING YOU THE NATIONAL PROGRAM AND THE SONOMA COUNTY PROGRAM TO TAKE A, TAKE A TRIP WITHOUT YOUR CAR, MAYBE WITHOUT YOUR BIKE. UM, SEE WHAT IT'S LIKE FOR THOSE WHO CANNOT AFFORD A CAR NOR HAVE A CAR. SECOND THING I'D LIKE TO SAY IS THANK YOU TO THE 70 PLUS VOLUNTEERS WHO JOINED THE CITY EMPLOYEES AND THE REBUILDING TOGETHER PROGRAM WORKED ON THE LYNCH CREEK TRAIL ON SATURDAY. YOU HAVE TO GO SEE THE TRAIL. IT LOOKS SO MUCH BETTER. UM, AND IN FACT, I WAS ABLE TO USE MY POWER WHEELCHAIR AND TAKE A WALK ON THE TRAIL. SO GO VISIT IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MAUREEN HAW COULD BE FOLLOWED BY RICK PARKER. HELLO. WE ARE FORMALLY REQUESTING THAT THE CITY MAKE PUBLIC THE FORMAL DATA COLLECTION PLAN FOR THE D STREET PILOT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. LAST WEEK, THE CITY COUNCIL DECIDED NOT TO REVIEW THE D STREET PILOT DOUBLE YELLOW LINES CITING NEED FOR ADDITIONAL TIME TO COLLECT DATA. THE COMMUNITY IS NOW FIVE WEEKS INTO THE PROJECTS AND STILL LACKS A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF THE CITY'S DATA COLLECTION PLAN. THIS INFORMATION SHOULD HAVE BEEN PROVIDED TO THE CONCERNED CITIZENS OF PETALUMA WHEN THE PILOT WAS FIRST IMPLEMENTED. IF DATA IS REQUIRED TO MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS, IT IS ESSENTIAL FOR THE CITY TO FURNISH BOTH THE PUBLIC AND THE CITY COUNCIL WITH A FORMAL DATA COLLECTION PLAN. THIS PLAN SHOULD INCLUDE BASELINE MEASUREMENTS FOR COMPARISON WITH POST IMPLEMENTATION DATA DETAILS ON SPECIFIC DATA TO BE COLLECTED. THE METHODS OF COLLECTION AND THE FREQUENCY OF DATA GATHERING, IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT THE CITY ACTIVELY ENGAGE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU RICK PARKER TO BE FOLLOWED BY PAUL ALEXANDER. GOOD EVENING. UH, THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR YOUR SERVICE. I KNOW IT IS AN HONOR AND A PRIVILEGE TO REPRESENT THE PEOPLE OF PETALUMA. UH, TO THAT END, UM, I THINK WE'RE AT A CRITICAL POINT IN OUR HISTORY, UH, TO DECIDE WHAT WE WILL LOOK LIKE AND WHO GETS TO DECIDE. AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERN THAT THERE ARE STATE LAWS NOW THAT ARE DETERMINING OUR COMMUNITY, HOW IT'S BUILT. THERE ARE LAWSUITS AGAINST CITIES FOR NOT BUILDING HOUSING AND SUCH, AND FOR OTHER REGULATIONS THAT YOU'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT FORCE US TO DO THINGS ONCE, UH, ANY KIND OF DEVELOPMENT BEGINS THROUGH THE PROCESS. AND I WOULD JUST ASK THAT THE CRITICAL ELEMENT IN ALL OF THIS IS US, THE RESIDENTS, RIGHT? PLEASE START WITH US LOOKING FOR INPUT. WE CAN FIND BETTER SOLUTIONS THAT WAY. I FEEL THE PROCESS TODAY, HAVING EXPERIENCED SOME OF IT, IS THAT IT IS VERY BACKEND FOR THE RESIDENTS. THE PROJECT IS ALREADY MOVING THROUGH, AND YOU CAN NAME ALL SORTS OF WOMEN IN THE CITY HERE, RIGHT? AND THEN THE RESIDENTS COME AT THE VERY END AND HAVE ONE MINUTE. SO I'D REALLY ENCOURAGE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. FIND A WAY TO BEVERLY ALEXANDER'S IS OUR NEXT SPEAKER TO BE FOLLOWED BY SALLY LATCH. THOUGHT YOU SAID PAUL ALEXANDER WAS, UH, [00:45:01] PAUL ALEXANDER JUST SPOKE. NO, IIII APOLOGIZE. I GET THE AHEAD OF MYSELF. RICK PARKER JUST SPOKE. PAUL ALEXANDER IS THE NEXT SPEAKER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO BE FOLLOWED BY BEV ALEXANDER. OVER 100 CITIES HAVE CALLED FOR A CEASEFIRE IN ISRAEL AND PALESTINE, RICHMOND, CALIFORNIA BEING THE FIRST. I'M CALLING FOR OUR PETALUMA CITY COUNCIL TO ALSO TAKE A STAND FOR A PERMANENT CEASEFIRE. THIS IS A LOCAL ISSUE BECAUSE AS LONG AS WAR CRIMES ARE BEING FUNDED BY OUR REPRESENTATIVES IN CONGRESS, IT IS A LOCAL ISSUE. IT IS OUR TAX DOLLARS THAT ARE BEING USED TO SUPPLY THE LETHAL ACKMANS THAT ARE SUSTAINING AND FUELING THIS WAR. MUCH OF THE WORLD STOOD BY WHILE MILLIONS OF JEWS WERE EXTERMINATED IN WORLD WAR II BECAUSE IT WASN'T CONSIDERED TO BE A LOCAL ISSUE. IS THAT RIGHT? OR JUST IF WE SEE INNOCENT PEOPLE DEPRIVED OF FOOD, WATER, AND MEDICAL TREATMENT, WHILE HOSPITALS ARE DESTROYED, DOCTORS ARE KILLED, AND INNOCENT PEOPLE ARE MASSACRED IN SUPPOSED SAFE SPOTS, THEN IT IS OUR DUTY AS PRINCIPAL AMERICANS AND AS PRINCIPAL PETAL LUMENS TO SPEAK UP IN OPPOSITION TO THOSE ACTIONS AND POLICIES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. BEV ALEXANDER IS OUR NEXT SPEAKER TO BE FOLLOWED BY SALLY LATCH. THIS IS A LOCAL ISSUE BECAUSE IT'S MY MONEY THAT'S FUNDING THIS, UM, WAR. I COME FROM AN ASHKENAZI JEWISH FAMILY. I GREW UP KNOWING ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST AND HOW THE JEWS FLEE IN EUROPE. WERE NOT ALLOWED TO TAKE REFUGE AND OTHER COUNTRIES, AND WERE SOMETIMES SENT BACK TO DIE. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT MANY OF US JEWS FEEL THAT WE HAVE TO BE VIGILANT AND STRONG TO PROTECT OURSELVES, BUT TO ME, NEVER AGAIN MEANS NEVER AGAIN TO ANYONE BECAUSE WE KNOW WHAT IT WAS LIKE TO BE IGNORED BY THE WHOLE WORLD WHEN WE WERE IN DANGER. WE MUST NEVER DENY HELP TO THOSE IN DANGER. IF WE ALLOW OUR GOVERNMENT TO CONTINUE TO FUND THE BOMBING WITH OUR MONEY. IF WE ALLOW OUR GOVERNMENT TO TURN AWAY FROM STARVATION, HOW ARE WE DIFFERENT FROM THE GOOD GERMANS WHO IGNORED THE STENCH COMING FROM THE CREMATORIA? THANK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, SALLY LATCH TO BE FOLLOWED BY ELLEN OSLER. I WANTED SAY THAT, UM, THE, THE COUNCIL HAS NOT WANTED TO SUPPORT A CEASEFIRE BECAUSE THEY WERE SAYING IT WOULD CAUSE UH, DISSENSION IN THE COMMUNITY. AND, UH, YOU WOULD BE CALLED ANTISEMITES AND THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF DIVISION AND HARD FEELINGS. AND I JUST WANNA SAY, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN, UM, DOWN AT, UH, THE, UH, CITY PARK IN, IN, AT, UH, PNA PARK IN PETALUMA FOR ALMOST A YEAR WITH, UH, A NUMBER OF OTHER PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN, UH, SUPPORTING A CEASEFIRE. UH, AND ALSO WE WANNA STOP FUNDING OF ARMS TO ISRAEL. I DON'T WANNA TELL YOU THAT IF THERE WAS GONNA BE ANY, UH, DISSENSION OR ANGRY FEELINGS, UH, IT WOULD SHOW UP THERE, BUT IT HASN'T. AND SOME OF YOU HAVE BEEN THERE. AND, UH, THANK YOU. I'VE BEEN THERE ALMOST A YEAR. I THANK YOU. READY? YES. THE MINUTE GOES VERY, VERY FAST. I'M SORRY. NO, I WANNA TALK. AND, UH, OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS ELLEN OSLER TO BE FOLLOWED BY FLASH WELSH. OKAY. OKAY. I'M ALSO HERE ASKING YOU TO ALLOW THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE A VOICE ABOUT THE SUFFERING IN GAZA. IT'S UNFATHOMABLE THAT OUR GOVERNMENT IS CONTINUING INTO ACT OF COMPLICITY. AND IT SEEMS ONLY IF THE PEOPLE DEMAND A CHANGE IN POLICY, WILL THERE BE A CHANGE. MAYBE SOME OF YOU STILL FEEL THERE'LL BE UPSETTING COMMUNITY MEMBERS IF YOU GENDERIZE THE ITEM, BUT I CAN'T IMAGINE ANY CONTROVERSY AT THIS POINT. ESPECIALLY CONTINUING, CONSIDERING THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF ISRAELIS OUT IN THE STREET PROTESTING FOR THE CEASEFIRE, I RECENTLY READ AN OP-ED, ENTITLED AMERICAN SUPPORT OF NETANYAHU IS KILLING US ALL IN WHICH THE AUTHORS SAY THAT THOSE WHO INSIST ON UN QUESTIONING ON CRITICAL SUPPORT FOR ISRAEL ARE ONLY BOLSTERING NHU IN THE PROCESS, PROLONGING HIS [00:50:01] POWER, PROLONGING THE RO, THE ROLE, THE, THE WAR, AND ENDANGERING THE HOSTAGES, AND THREATENING A LARGER WAR, UH, WAR. IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO CHOOSE A POLITICS OF LIFE AND REBUILDING RATHER THAN ONE OF WAR AND DEATH. LET'S HAVE THIS CONVERSATION IN PETALUMA. PLEASE ONE OF YOU JOIN WITH, WITH CO COUNCIL MEMBER POST IN PUTTING A RESOLUTION ON THE AGENDA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, I NOTE FLASH THAT, UH, YOU WANTED TO SPEAK REGARDING, UH, THE, THE, UH, BRIDGE NEAR FAIRWAY MEADOWS. I THINK THAT'S ITEM 12, RIGHT? GOOD. THANK YOU. SO, UM, I'LL SAVE THE CARD AND, UM, TIM PORTUS IS OUR LAST SPEAKER FOR THE EVENING. HELLO, MY COUNSEL. THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO CONTINUE WHERE JODY AND KAY LEFT OFF. ONE THING IS FOR SURE, THEY STAND ANYWAY. THEY FIGHT HOWEVER THEY CAN, AND THEY KNOW THAT YOU MUST CONTINUE TO SEE THEM AND BE REMINDED WHO YOU ARE PROTECTING FROM HOMELESSNESS. LITTLE WOODS, RESIDENTS WAIT FOR THE NEXT SHOE TO DROP. THEY PREPARE AND SEEK WAYS TO STOP THE ABUSE OF POWER OF THE PARK OWNERS. WE RESPECTFULLY CONTINUE TO ASK THAT OUR VILLAGE OF PETALUMA MOBILE PARK RESIDENTS ARE PROTECTED AND D DEFENDED AGAINST UNLAWFUL BEHAVIORS, AND THAT ENFORCEMENT WITH TEETH PREVENTS THE VIOLATIONS FROM CONTINUING TO PILE UP. PLEASE DON'T LISTEN TO FALSE NARRATIVES OR PRESUME TO BELIEVE OTHERS SPEAK THE TRUTH OR WHAT THEY, OR THAT THEY EVER SPEAK FOR US. WE SPEAK FOR OURSELVES, WE SPEAK THE TRUTH, AND WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO SETTLE FOR HOMELESSNESS OR REMOVAL OF OUR MOBILE HOMES IN SOLIDARITY. PETALUMA MOBILE RESIDENCE UNITED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS. MR. MAYOR, WE ACTUALLY DO HAVE ONE MORE PUBLIC COMMENT. THERE WAS A CONFUSION ON THE CARD, BUT DEBORAH ROGERS WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. THANK YOU. ARE YOU PUTTING MINUTES ON OR SECONDS? ? UM, I JUST WANNA PREFACE THIS WITH I AM A CYCLIST AND, UM, WHILE I NOTICED THAT THERE'S SO MANY BIKE LANES BEING PUT INTO THE CITY AND THEY'RE VERY PRETTY, BUT, UM, THEY'RE ACTUALLY NOT PRACTICAL. UM, I NOTICED ON GARFIELD, UH, THE ENTIRE GARFIELD, I THINK WITH THE, UH, BIKE LANES, WHAT'S NOT PRACTICAL IS CUTTING THE CURBS BECAUSE EVEN THE CYCLIST CAN'T GET THROUGH THE CURBS WITH ALL THE PAINT LINES AND THE CEMENT BLOCKS. UM, SO THE CYCLIST IS NOW HAVING TO WAIT FOR THE CAR AS WELL. AND I'M ALSO A DRIVER, A DRIVER COMING UP TO A RESIDENTIAL AREA, NEEDING TO TAKE A RIGHT TURN TO GO TO A HOME OR TO A FRIEND'S HOUSE. HAS TO WAIT BECAUSE YOU'RE BLOCKING AND SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY ON PAINT AND CEMENT BLOCKS. I CAN UNDERSTAND BIKE LANES, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY'RE, UH, GOOD IDEA IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS. AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GOING IN, IN PETALUMA FOR THANK YOU. UM, DO FEEL FREE TO DROP THOSE COMMENTS IN, UH, AS, UH, EMAIL OR TEXT. THEY'RE OFTEN EASIER TO, TO REPLY TO, UM, FROM EMAIL OR TEXT. UM, AND THAT IS OUR LAST SPEAKER FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THE EVENING. SO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED. [COUNCIL COMMENT] I'D LIKE TO MOVE INTO, UH, COUNSEL COMMENTS. AND I THINK I'M GONNA CHANGE UP THE ORDER TONIGHT. AND, UH, START FROM, UH, MY, MY LEFT WITH, UH, OUR COUNCIL MEMBER POKAY. THANK YOU, MAYOR. OKAY. UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY, UH, COMMITTEE BUSINESS TO REPORT OUT ON IT TODAY, BUT I WOULD WOULD LIKE TO JUST, UH, FORMALLY APOLOGIZE TO, UH, FOLKS SPEAKING FOR THE CEASEFIRE, UH, FOR MY FAILURE AT THE LAST MEETING TO, UH, VERBALIZE, UH, SUPPORT FOR SUCH A RESOLUTION. I'D PREVIOUSLY STATED THAT, UH, PEOPLE, UH, CAME HERE TO SPEAK IN THIS REGARD THAT I WOULD, UH, UH, REAFFIRM, UH, MY, UH, UH, AGREEMENT WITH THEM. AND SO, UH, I APOLOGIZE NOW FOR THAT OMISSION AND WISH TO ADD MY SUPPORT FOR THE CALL FOR A CEASEFIRE. UH, I AGREE THAT, THAT, UH, THIS IS APPROPRIATE USE OF CITY COUNCIL TIME, AND I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY WAR EVER BEING SETTLED WITHOUT, UH, HAVING A CEASEFIRE AGREEMENT. FIRST. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER NOW. UM, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. IN THE PAST WEEK, I BEGAN MY YEAR AS A MEMBER OF THE PETALUMA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE 20 24, 20 25 LEADERSHIP CLASS. AND THANK YOU TO THE CITY OF PETALUMA'S FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR SPENDING THE DAY WITH US TEACHING THE CLASS ON HOW THEY KEEP US SAFE. UM, SATURDAY NIGHT I WAS A, UM, GUEST [00:55:01] AT THE MONSTER TRUCK SHOW AT THE PEDAL, MY SPEEDWAY WITH MY ADULT CHILDREN AND MY GRANDCHILDREN. IT WAS A WONDERFUL NIGHT OF FAMILY ENTERTAINMENT. I WANNA THANK, UM, THE, UM, ORGANIZERS OF THAT FOR INVITING ME TO TODAY. I WAS HONORED TO CELEBRATE AND CUT THE RIBBON WITH THE STUDENTS OF KENWORTH JUNIOR HIGH AND THE CITY OF PETALUMA ART COMMITTEE ON THE LATEST INSTALLMENT OF PUBLIC ART, A SCULPTURE ENTITLED WOVEN STORIES. UM, AND THE ARTIST WAS THERE AND THERE WAS, THERE IS A PRESS RELEASE. HOPEFULLY THE NEWSPAPERS WILL, UM, PUBLISH IT, OTHERWISE YOU CAN FIND IT ON OUR WEBSITE, BUT I WON'T SPEND THE TIME TONIGHT READING IT. UM, A REMINDER THAT SATURDAY, THIS SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 21ST FROM 11 TO FOUR, IS THE AIRPORT DISPLAY DAY. COME OUT TO THE PETALUMA MUNICIPAL AIRPORT, SEE AIRCRAFT, TALK TO PILOTS, HAVE LUNCH AT THE TWO NINE OH DINER, AND I HOPE TO SEE EVERYONE THERE. SUNDAY IS SEPTEMBER 29TH FROM 8:00 AM TO 4:00 PM IS THE PETALUMA FALL ANTIQUE FAIR DOWNTOWN. UM, ALSO, PETALUMA MUSEUM JUST OPENED THEIR NEWEST EXHIBIT TELLING STORIES OF MEXICAN, CALIFORNIA REAL LIFE AND MYTHMAKING. THE MUSEUM IS OPEN THURSDAY THROUGH SUNDAY, 10 TO FOUR, AND I HOPE EVERYBODY HAS AN OPPORTUNITY. THEY HAVE, UM, TALKS THAT YOU CAN SIGN UP FOR, AND I'VE ALREADY DONE SIGNED UP FOR A COUPLE OF THIS NEXT MONTH. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WONDERFUL. COUNCIL MEMBER HEALY. THANK YOU. SO, JUST TWO THINGS BRIEFLY. UM, UH, I, I DID PARTICIPATE IN THE, UH, LYNCH CREEK, UH, CLEANUP, UH, ON SATURDAY, ALONG WITH COUNCIL MEMBER AND OUR CITY MANAGER AND SEVERAL OTHER CITY STAFF MEMBERS. AND, AND NICOLE, YOU'RE RIGHT, IT LOOKS A LOT BETTER THAN IT DID ON FRIDAY, AND LET'S KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. AND THEN, UM, TODAY I ATTENDED A, A LUNCH MEETING AT PETALUMA VALLEY HOSPITAL WITH, UH, THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE CHAMBERS GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS COMMITTEE. AND IT WAS A REALLY KIND OF IN-DEPTH DIVE ON WHY THE EMERGENCY ROOM AND THE HOSPITAL ARE BOTH VERY IMPORTANT ASSETS TO THIS COMMUNITY AND WHY YOU CAN'T HAVE AN EMERGENCY ROOM WITHOUT A HOSPITAL AND WHAT THE COMMUNITY CAN DO TO, TO SUPPORT BOTH OF THOSE GOING FORWARD. AND, UM, I THINK IT WOULD PROBABLY BE VERY VALUABLE TO HAVE, UM, UH, A VERSION OF THAT PRESENTATION, UH, COME FORWARD TO COUNCIL, UH, AT SOME POINT IN THE NEAR FUTURE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. VICE MAYOR. UM, YES, THERE WAS A, A CLIMATE ACTION, UH, COMMISSION MEETING THIS LAST WEEK. AND BASICALLY WE DO HAVE, UH, TWO NEW STUDENTS THAT HAVE JOINED US FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR, WHICH IS REALLY NICE TO HAVE STUDENTS BACK ON THE, UH, COMMITTEE COMMISSION. AND, UM, WE'RE WORKING ON THE, UH, SETTING UP SOME PRIORITIES FOR CLIMATE ACTIONS, LOOKING AT GENERAL PLANNED AND LAND USE. AND, UH, THAT'LL BE COMING UP, UH, OVER THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO. UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I INTEND TO DO IS MAYBE GET SOME REIMBURSEMENT FOR SOME TRAVEL THAT I DO. AND I THINK MOST OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ALSO DO A FAIR AMOUNT OF TRAVEL OUTSIDE OUR CITY, VARIOUS COMMITTEES, UM, THAT, THAT WE'RE ALL INVOLVED WITH. THEN I FOUND OUT THAT THERE'S A 50 MILE MINIMUM, UH, ON IT. AND SO, UH, THE MANY TRIPS I TAKE UP TO SANTA ROSA, WHICH COSTS ME A FAIR AMOUNT OF MONEY UP THERE AND BACK, AND ALSO TO OTHER CITIES IN THE WHOLE NORTH BAY AREA. 'CAUSE I'M ON SEVERAL NORTH BAYS. SO, ANYWAY, JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. WE CAN MAYBE MOVE THAT DOWN FROM A 50 MILE MINIMUM TO A, MAYBE A 10 MILE MINIMUM. SO AS LONG AS WE LEAVE THE CITY THAT WE MAY GET SOME REIMBURSEMENT FOR THAT INSTEAD OF COMING OUT OF OUR OWN POCKET. OKAY. ANYWAY. UM, AND THEN THE, UM, THE OTHER THING IS ON D STREET, I, UH, AM I DO CONTINUE TO, UM, GO TO D STREET BOTH BY CAR AND BY BIKE. AND I HAVE, UH, MADE SOME, UM, ANALYSIS FROM MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWPOINT AS THAT THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN SENT IN ABOUT D STREET, UM, OUR, OUR REAL AND THERE IS SOME SAFETY ISSUES THERE. AND I'VE, UH, GIVEN A REPORT TO STAFF, UM, AT LEAST ON MY FIRST, UH, IMPRESSION SO FAR. AND I'LL BE CONTINUING TO DO THAT, TRYING TO POINT OUT, UH, INDIVIDUAL SAFETY FEATURES THAT WE MAY NEED TO CORRECT SOONER THAN LATER. SO I'LL BE WORKING ON THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, COUNCIL MEMBER CATER THOMPSON. UM, THANK YOU. UM, ACTUALLY I'VE BEEN GOING UP AND DOWN D STREET ALSO AND I'VE BEEN DOING THE SAME THING, SENDING SOME, UM, NOTES TO, UM, THE CITY ON POSSIBLE CHANGES AND THEY WERE DONE. SO I FEEL LIKE THEY WERE SAFER, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING BY THE CURBS IN THE ROAD WHERE THE YOU DIP DOWN, THERE'S NOW A POST THERE. YEAH. UM, WHICH I THINK MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE. I KIND OF LIKE THE LINES IN THE ROAD WHEN I DRIVE AT NIGHT. I LIKE LINES IN THE ROAD SO I CAN SEE. UM, BUT I'M REALLY GONNA TALK ABOUT, UH, FRIDAY. THIS PAST FRIDAY I PARTICIPATED IN THE FOOTSTEPS TO FREEDOM. AND I'M JUST GONNA READ JUST QUICKLY SOMETHING OF THE REVEREND JOHN RANKIN AND HIS WIFE, JEAN LOWERY RANKIN, RESIDENTS OF RIPLEY OHIO, WHERE THEIR, THEIR HOME WAS A KEY STATION FOR ENSLAVED PEOPLE SEEKING FREEDOM THROUGH THE UNDERGROUND RAIL. THERE ARE 13 [01:00:01] CHILDREN HELP, INCLUDING THE ELDEST ADAM LAUER RANKIN. UM, WHAT WE FOUND OUT, ACTUALLY, JOANNA POND AND HER DAUGHTER'S, UM, SEARCHED AND THEY FOUND JOHN RANKIN ACTUALLY IS BURIED IN PETALUMA, SO IT'S A REAL CONNECTION. UM, HE WAS A, UM, PART OF THE PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH HERE, AND ADAM LOWERY IS BURIED AT THE CEMETERY ALONG WITH, UM, GENE AND JOHN RANKIN. AND I WENT TO SCHOOL WITH THE RANKIN. AND SO I GAVE HIM A CALL TO SEE IF THERE WAS ANY CONNECTION. AND THERE PROBABLY IS, BUT WE DON'T KNOW. BUT I REALLY ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO READ THE ARTICLE IN THE PRESS DEMOCRAT OF THE ARGUS COURIER. IT'S GREAT HISTORY, UM, FOR PETALUMA AND ITS SAD HISTORY IN GENERAL. UM, I ALSO WAS AT KENNELWORTH TODAY FOR THE WOVEN STORIES, WHICH KIND OF WEAVES INTO THE STORY THAT I JUST MENTIONED. UM, BUT I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT, UM, THE PIECE AT, UM, KENNELWORTH, THE WHOLE EAST SIDE. THERE WERE ALL KINDS OF INDIAN A ARROWHEADS ARTIFACTS THROUGHOUT THE CREEK. AND WHEN I WAS YOUNG, UM, MRS. RUSS, WHO LIVED DOWN THE STREET FROM US ON ELI ROAD, WHICH IS NOW SONOMA MOUNTAIN PARKWAY, HAD THIS INCREDIBLE, UM, DISPLAY OF ALL THE ARROWHEADS SHE WOULD FIND. AND EVERY TIME, LIKE THE FIELDS WERE TILLED, YOU KNOW, SHE'D BE WALKING AND SHE WOULD FIND MORE. SO WE REALLY HAVE AN INCREDIBLE HISTORY HERE, UM, WITH, UM, THE INDIANS THAT WERE HERE BEFORE US. AND I THINK THAT'S ABOUT ALL EXCEPT THAT I REALLY LOVE THE SERVICE DOG MONTH . IT WAS REALLY, UM, GREAT TO SEE, UM, PEOPLE, UM, WITH DISABILITIES AND WHAT DOGS REALLY DO FOR THEIR LIFE. UM, I'LL TALK ABOUT MY DOG, COCO , WHO I JUST ADORE. AND A FEW TIMES SHE HAS DONE, UM, JUST OUT OF, WE WERE IN A STORE AND SHE WENT UP TO TWICE, UM, PEOPLE WITH AUTISM. AND IT WAS JUST SO INTERESTING WALKING, WATCHING THE REACTION OF THE PERSON. UM, AND YET I HAD NO IDEA THAT SHE WAS REALLY RECOGNIZING THAT THEY NEEDED SUPPORT. AND THE MOTHER CAME UP TO ME AND WAS JUST REALLY SURPRISED AT HOW THE DOG INTERACTED WITH HER SON WHO WAS SEVERELY AUTISTIC. AND IT WAS JUST A REALLY GOOD FEELING. AND SO THANK YOU TO SERVICE DOGS. COUNCIL MEMBER BARNICLE. THANK YOU. I HAVE, UH, NO APPOINTMENTS TO REPORT OUT ON. UM, I WILL, UH, COMMEND THE CITY FOR THE THIRD, UH, UM, THE THIRD PODCAST FOCUSED ON FIRE SEASON. UM, IF YOU HAVEN'T CHECKED OUT ONE PETALUMA, IT'S A GREAT WAY TO SORT OF DEMYSTIFY A LOT OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT TOPICS. UM, AND THIS ONE'S GREAT WITH OUR FIRE CHIEF. UM, OUR PUBLIC ART TEAM IS ON FIRE, UH, BECAUSE THIS THURSDAY WE HAVE ANOTHER, OUR OPENING AT THE, AT THE FAIRGROUNDS FOR O TO PETALUMA, UM, OWED TO THE, TO THE FAIRGROUNDS, UM, FROM FOUR TO EIGHT. AND THEN I JUST CAN'T STRESS ENOUGH THAT, UM, A LOT OF YOU HERE TONIGHT, UM, PROBABLY TO TALK ABOUT THE EIR. UM, BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TWO GENERAL PLAN WORKSHOPS FOCUSED ON OUR LAND USE ELEMENT, WHICH IS BY FAR AND AWAY THE MOST IMPORTANT ELEMENT IN THE LAND IN THE GENERAL PLAN. UM, ONE ON SEPTEMBER 21ST FROM 10 TO ONE AT THE FAIRGROUNDS, ANOTHER ONE ON SEPTEMBER 25TH FROM FIVE TO EIGHT AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER. UM, IF YOU WANT TO, IF YOU HAVE AN INTEREST IN THE WAY THE PETALUMA'S GONNA GROW, UM, ATTENDING ONE OF THOSE TWO WORKSHOPS OR BOTH OF 'EM IS GONNA BE THE MOST, UM, IMPACTFUL WAY THAT YOU CAN, UH, YOU KNOW, HAVE YOUR VOICE HEARD. THANKS. THANK YOU. AND I ATTENDED, UH, THE OMA COUNTY MAYOR'S MEETING THIS WEEK WHERE, UH, WE DISCUSSED ISSUES OF, UH, COMMON INTEREST TO US. AND, UH, THE MA OF THE KITCHENS ITEM CAME UP. THE, UH, BIKE LANE SWEEPERS CAME UP, UH, UM, THE, UM, URBAN GROWTH BOUNDARIES CAME UP. ALL THESE THINGS THAT PETALUMA'S WORKING ON OTHER CITIES ARE FACING SIMILAR CHALLENGES. I ALSO HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, ATTEND THE FACING FENTANYL AND, UH, EVENT THIS PAST WEEKEND, UH, WHERE THE COMMUNITY CAME TOGETHER. UM, BPSC, UM, MUIR WOODS, MUIR WOODS, UH, HAS OUR CHAMBER, UM, OF COMMERCE PRESIDENT AS THEIR, UH, ONE OF THEIR OUTREACH WORKERS. SO IT WAS WELL COORDINATED IN TOWN. AND, UM, JUST POINTING OUT WHAT AN EPIDEMIC IT IS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND HOW FENTANYL IS NOT A DRUG, IT'S A POISON. THERE IS NO SAFE DOSE OF FENTANYL, UM, ILLICIT FENTANYL. AND, UM, MANY TOLD STORIES OF LOST LOVED ONES OR, UM, FINDING PEOPLE IN NEED OF SUPPORT AND THEY DO PASS OUT NARCAN. AND YOU, THE TRAINING ON IT IS QUITE DIRECT. AND I FEEL COMFORTABLE NOW HAVING THIS IN MY CAR. AND I HOPE THAT YOU ALL DO TOO. YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN THAT NEEDLE ARISE. [01:05:01] I DO WANNA WISH, UH, OR APPRECIATE OUR DEPUTY CHIEF NICK MCGOWAN FOR HIS PRESENTATION. I THINK THE C CITY DOES REAL WELL, UM, IN SUPPORT OF THIS. ALSO, THANK THE PHOENIX FOR HOSTING AND, UH, PPCS ED ELISE HEMPHILL FOR HER PRESENTATION THERE. UH, ALSO THE SONOMA COUNTY BICYCLE COALITION AND, UH, SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL IS DECLARING AN OCTOBER CHALLENGE. UH, OCTOBER HAS THE INTERNATIONAL WALK AND ROLL TO SCHOOL MONTH, AND THEY'RE TRYING TO ROLL THAT OUT TO ALL FOLKS SO THAT ALL FOLKS CAN SEE, UH, BY THEIR WALKING, BY THEIR BIKING, WHAT IT IS TO BE A PEDESTRIAN IN THIS TOWN AND WHAT IT IS TO BE A CYCLIST IN THIS TOWN, AND HOW WE CAN ALL BE NICER TO EACH OTHER AND WE CAN ALSO, UM, PROVIDE AMENITIES. SO IT'S SAFE TO WALK AND BIKE IN THIS TOWN. AND I'LL, UH, OFFER THE CHALLENGE TO MY FELLOW COUNCIL PERSONS. IT'S DOCUMENTING A DAILY FOOT AND ROLL THING, SO IT'LL BE A, IT'LL BE A FUN COUNCIL CHALLENGE COMING UP. AND THAT'S FOR ME, I'D [CITY MANAGER COMMENT] LIKE TO PASS IT OVER TO OUR CITY MANAGER. THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCIL, UH, COMMUNITY. UM, THRILLED TO, UM, ANNOUNCE THAT OUR MICRO TRANSIT LUMA GO IS GOING TO GO LIVE ON SEPTEMBER 30TH. AND I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER SKE HAD MENTIONED LAST MEETING. I JUST WANNA CLARIFY THAT. UM, AND IF YOU UPLOAD THE LUMA GO APP, UM, THAT WILL GO LIVE SEPTEMBER 30TH. SO IF YOU LOAD THAT UP ON YOUR SMARTPHONE, UM, YOU, YOU'LL HAVE ACCESS TO FREE, UM, UH, FREE TRANSIT, UM, ON DEMAND SHUTTLE SERVICE, WHICH WE'RE SUPER EXCITED TO, UM, TO OFFER THE COMMUNITY. WE ALSO WANTED TO LET THE COMMUNITY AND COUNCIL KNOW THAT, UM, THANKS TO A PG E LOCAL GOVERNMENT PROGRAM PARTNERSHIP, WE'VE REPLACED GAS WATER HEATERS WITH 24 HEAT PUMP WATER HEATERS, UM, IN OUR CITY FACILITIES. UM, AND THAT'S AROUND A $350,000 INVESTMENT THAT THE CITY HAD NOT TO PUT A DOLLAR IN. SO, UM, WE'RE SUPER, UH, GRATEFUL FOR THAT PARTNERSHIP. OUR FACILITIES RECEIVING THESE WATER HEATER UPGRADES INCLUDE THE WATER FIELD OFFICE FAIRGROUNDS, UH, BOTH POOLS, THE MARINA, THE CORP YARD FIRE STATION, ONE POLICE DEPARTMENT, COMMUNITY CENTER, TEEN CENTER. UM, AND I WANNA THANK PATRICK CARTER, UM, UH, OUR ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER FOR MAKING THIS HAPPEN. UH, WE'RE SUPER GRATEFUL AND IT'S HELPING US MEET OUR CLIMATE ACTION GOALS BY REDUCING OVER 1900 METRIC TONS OF CO2 OVER THE LIFETIME OF, OF THE EQUIPMENT. SO REALLY THRILLED ABOUT THAT. AND, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLE, THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING, UM, AGAIN, THE, THE GENERAL PLAN, UH, LAND USE COMMUNITY WORKSHOPS THIS SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 21ST, OR WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 24TH. WE HOPE THAT YOU CAN ATTEND ONE OF THOSE BECAUSE YOUR VOICE DOES MATTER, UM, IN OUR LAND USE POLICY. SO APPRECIATE THAT AND THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT MOVES US DOWN TO OUR, OUR, [CONSENT CALENDAR] UH, NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS THE CONSENT CALENDAR. AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE COUNSEL IF, UH, ANYONE HAS ANY ITEM TO REMOVE FOR INDEPENDENT DISCUSSION OR AN INDEPENDENT COMMENT THEY WISH TO MAKE, AND, UH, LACKING INDEPENDENT COMMENT ON THAT. COUNCIL MEMBER HEALY, YOU NEED TO PUBLIC COMMENT. YES. YEAH. UM, SO, UH, LACKING ANY COUNSEL COMMENT ON THAT? I'D LIKE TO ASK, UH, TO OPEN OUR PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD ON THIS CONSENT CALENDAR AND LIKE TO ASK OUR CLERK IF, UM, WE HAVE HAD RECEIVED ANY, UH, COMMENTS. WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR. PLEASE READ THE MESSAGING. YES, ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. UM, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING IN PERSON SHOULD BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARDS TO THE CLERK'S DESK IF THEY HAVE NOT ALREADY DONE SO. SPEAKERS ARE REMINDED TO BE RESPECTFUL IN THEIR COMMENTS AND THAT THIS MEETING IS BEING TRANSLATED. PLEASE PAUSE BETWEEN SENTENCES FOR TRANSLATION, AND I AM NOT SEEING ANY FOR CONSENT OR, OKAY. SEEING NO COMMENTS FOR CONSENT, BRINGING IT BACK TO COUNCIL. COUNCIL MEMBER HEALEY. YEAH. WITH THAT, I WILL HAPPILY, UH, MOVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS ONE THROUGH, LET'S SEE HERE, 10. I'LL SECOND ONE THROUGH TEN SECOND. AND I HAVE A SECOND FROM CATER THOMPSON. AND A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE. BARNACLE. AYE. CATER. THOMPSON? YES. HEALY? YES. NOW? YES. POST. OKAY. YES. SHRIVES? YES. MCDONALD? YES. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION] THAT MOVES US TO OUR ITEM 11, WHICH IS ONE OF OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION. AND THAT ITEM 11 IS PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE COMMENTS ON THE 2023 2024 DRAFT CONSOLIDATED ANNUAL PERFORMANCE EVALUATION [01:10:01] REPORT, CAPER AND RESOLUTION APPROVING TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT, UM, FOR TWO, 2023 AND 2024. AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO SUBMIT THE CAPER AS REQUIRED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT. AND TO HELP US OUT WITH THIS, TONIGHT, WE HAVE KAREN ZU, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND SARAH WOLF, OUR HOUSING SPECIALIST, TO LEAD US THROUGH THIS. TAKE IT AWAY. THANK YOU. AND GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, STAFF AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS. UH, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT OUR CDBG PROGRAM, THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM, WHICH IS A FEDERAL ENTITLEMENT PROGRAM. THE CITY RECEIVES AN ANNUAL ALLOCATION BETWEEN 300 AND $350,000, WHICH IS USED TO SUPPORT PROGRAMS BENEFITING LOW TO MODERATE INCOME HOUSEHOLDS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THE AGENDA ITEM THIS EVENING IS TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING, RECEIVE COMMENTS ON THE CDBG CONSOLIDATED ANNUAL PERFORMANCE EVALUATION REPORT, THE CAPER FOR THE FISCAL YEAR OF 2324. UM, BEFORE WE DO THAT, I'LL PROVIDE A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE FUNDING AND ELIGIBLE ACTIVITIES, AND WE'LL DISCUSS, UM, THE COMMUNITY PROGRAMS AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS USED FOR THE CDBG FUNDING. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A SHORT HIGHLIGHT ABOUT NON CDBG FUNDED PROGRAMS THAT PLAY A PIVOTAL ROLE IN ACHIEVING OUR CON PLAN GOALS. CONSOLIDATED PLAN GOALS, EXCUSE ME, AND ADDRESS HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. BELOW IS A LIST OF ELIGIBLE ACTIVITIES. THE REPORT AND PRESENTATION IS FOCUSED ON THE ACTIVITIES THAT THE CITY WAS ABLE TO COMPLETE DURING THE FISCAL YEAR. UH, THE CITY RECEIVED $330,000. WE SPENT $370,000. UM, THE DIFFERENCE OF $40,000 WAS DUE TO CARRYOVER FUNDING FROM PREVIOUS YEARS THAT WAS UNSPENT IN PROGRAMS, UH, BY FEDERAL REGULATION, 85% OF THE FUNDS MUST BE SPENT ON HOUSING AND CAPITAL PROJECTS. UH, 15% MAY BE SPENT ON PUBLIC SERVICES AND 20% CAN BE RETAINED FOR PROGRAM ADMINISTRATION. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. OOPS, EXCUSE ME. THIS SLIDE PROVIDES AN OVERVIEW OF FUNDING AWARDED AND PROGRAM ACCOMPLISHMENTS, UM, THROUGH EFFECTIVELY LEVERAGING OTHER FUNDING SOURCES. IN ADDITION TO THE CDBG FUNDS. PPSC MEALS PROGRAM HAS EXCEEDED THEIR PROGRAM GOAL AND SERVED 297 PEOPLE MORE THAN THE PROGRAM, UM, IS REQUIRED TO REBUILDING. TOGETHER. PETALUMA WAS ABLE TO SERVE 40 HOUSEHOLDS USING CDBG FUNDS. HOWEVER, THROUGH LEVERAGING OTHER FUNDING, THEY EXCEEDED THEIR PROGRAM GOAL INSERTED SERVED 52 HOUSEHOLDS. UH, THE PEP HOUSING PROJECT COMPLETED AN ELEVATOR MODERNIZATION AT 5 7 9 VALLEJO, WHICH IS A SENIOR HOUSING DEVELOPMENT. THIS PROJECT BENEFITED 40 LOW AND EXTREMELY LOW INCOME SENIORS COLLECTIVELY FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2324. THE CDBG PROGRAM WAS SUCCESSFUL IN SERVING 789 COMMUNITY MEMBERS, ALL WHO ARE LOW TO EXTREMELY LOW INCOME HOUSEHOLDS. AND AS IN PAST YEARS, THE CITY CHOSE TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT RESERVED FOR PROGRAM ADMINISTRATION AND ROLLED THAT ADDITIONAL FUNDING INTO PROGRAMS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. NON CDBG FUNDS PLAY AN IMPORTANT ROLE IN ACHIEVING OUR CONSOLIDATED PLAN GOALS AND ADDRESSING HOUSING AND HOMELESS CHALLENGES IN PETALUMA. THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE WORK OF OUR SMALL BUT MIGHTY HOUSING DEPARTMENT AND THE WORK THAT WE DO, UM, WITH LOCAL NONPROFIT PARTNERS TO CREATE AND MANAGE PROGRAMS. SERVING THE COMMUNITY AIMED AT HOMELESS SERVICES, RENTAL ASSISTANCE, AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT. SO FROM THE BEGINNING TOP, OR SORRY, BEGINNING IN THE TOP LEFT, UH, HOMELESS AND HOUSING SERVICES, $2.98 MILLION OF CITY FUNDING SUPPORTS SEVERAL KEY PROGRAMS FOR THE UNSHELTERED COMMUNITY. THESE ARE EMERGENCY SHELTER OPERATIONS, STREET OUTREACH BY NAMES, LIST MANAGEMENT, LANDLORD RECRUITMENT INITIATIVE, AND MEL MENTAL HEALTH AND WELLNESS, AS WELL AS AN EMPLOYMENT TRAINING PROGRAM. UM, PART OF HOMELESS PREVENTION EFFORTS. THE CITY FUNDS RENTAL ASSISTANCE AND FAIR HOUSING PROGRAMS THROUGH PPSC. THESE PROGRAMS HELP BOTH RESIDENTS AND LANDLORDS NAVIGATE FAIR HOUSING ISSUES AND ALSO PROVIDE VALUABLE SUPPORT TO THE CITY'S MOBILE HOME RESIDENTS. UM, TO PRESERVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THE CITY FUNDS HOUSING LAND TRUST IN THE NORTH BAY, WHO OVERSEES OUR INCLUSIONARY HOUSING PROGRAM. UH, IN FISCAL YEAR 2324, THE CITY BROUGHT IN FIVE NEW HOUSES INTO THE FIRST TIME HOME BUYER PROGRAM. UH, WITHIN THE MCKENNA, RIVERBEND AND HILLVIEW OAKS SUBDIVISIONS, [01:15:04] UH, UNDER STATE AND REGIONAL FUNDING SOURCES, THE CITY HAS RECEIVED A PRO HOUSING DESIGNATION. AND THROUGH THIS PROGRAM, WE WERE AWARDED FOR $840,000 TO SUPPORT HOMELESS AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING NEEDS. THE LOCAL HOUSING TRUST FUND PROGRAM PROVIDED $1.1 MILLION IN MATCHING GRANT FUNDS TO SUPPORT STUDIOS AT MONTERO, WHICH OPENED IN JULY OF 23 AND ADDED 60 UNITS OF PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. AND LASTLY, THE CITY RECEIVED 320,000 FROM COUNTY MERO NOFA, WHICH WAS USED TO SUPPORT HOMELESS SERVICE PROGRAMS LIKE STREET OUTREACH BY NAMES, LIST, AND MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAMMING. AND FROM THE TOP RIGHT YOU CAN SEE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT PIPELINE PROJECTS LISTED HERE ARE POISED TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL 225 UNITS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, INCLUDING 46 UNITS OF DEDICATED PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. PETALUMA'S 4 1 4 BOULEVARD NORTH RECEIVED 900,000 AND HOME FUNDING AND 1.1 MILLION IN IN LIEU FUNDS. IT RECEIVED ITS CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY IN JULY AND IS PRESENTLY LEASING UP. THERE ARE 18 UNITS DESIGNATED FOR FARM WORKER FAMILIES AND 13 PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING UNITS. UM, MERIDIAN AT CORONA CROSSING WAS AWARDED 31 MILLION FROM THE STATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND SUSTAINABLES COMMUNITY GRANT PROGRAM. THE CITY HAS INVESTED OVER 2 MILLION IN LAND, WHICH IS DEED RESTRICTED, AFFORDABLE FOR 55 YEARS. AND THE PROJECT ADDS 33 UNITS OF PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. AND LAST, THE WASHINGTON COMMONS PROJECT HAS RECEIVED ALL ENTITLEMENTS. TO DATE, THE CITY INVESTED 500,000 FOR SITE ACQUISITION, AND THE DEVELOPER MID PEN IS WORKING TO SECURE ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THE PROJECT. UM, ALL UNITS ARE DEED RESTRICTED, VERY LOW TO LOW INCOME LEVELS. AND NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO THE ACTION REQUESTED TO COUNCIL TONIGHT IS TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING ASKING FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND FEEDBACK, AND CONSIDER ADOPTING A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE FISCAL YEAR 2324 CDPG CAPER REPORT. STAFF AND COMMUNITY PARTNERS ARE HERE AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THAT'S QUITE A BIT TO GO THROUGH IN ONE IN ONE EVENING. I APPRECIATE THE, ALL THAT THIS PROGRAM DOES FOR US. UH, ANYONE ON, UH, COUNCIL HAVE A QUESTION THEY WISH TO RAISE ON THE REPORT? YES, THANK YOU. JUST ME. OKAY. UM, SO, UM, LOOKING AT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, PIPELINE TRACK, UH, I THINK WE'VE BEEN HEARING SOME OF THOSE NAMES FOR A A WHILE. IT'S, UM, IT, IT SEEMS TO TAKE A VERY, VERY LONG TIME TO GET TO THE FINISH LINE. UH, I THINK, UH, THE FOUR 14 BOULEVARD IS NOW OPEN OR, YOU KNOW, SO THAT ONE'S HIT THE FINISH LINE. WE'RE PUTTING PEOPLE IN IN THAT HOUSE. THAT'S REALLY GOOD. BUT, UM, BUT THE CORONA, UH, MERIDIAN, UH, PROJECT, IS IT FULLY FUNDED? YOU MENTIONED 31 MILLION, BUT IS THAT FULLY FUNDING OR NOT? THE STATUS UPDATE ON THAT IS THAT THEY SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION FOR, UM, TAX CREDITS. THEY SUBMITTED THAT IN AUGUST, AND THOSE AWARDS WILL BE ANNOUNCED ON DECEMBER 11TH. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. UM, IT'S, IT'S SO TOUGH TO GET THOSE PROJECTS BUILT THAT, I MEAN, THEY PUT IN FOR THE MONEY, BUT THEY DON'T ALWAYS GET AWARDED THE MONEY. AND SO WE MIGHT HAVE A GOOD PROJECT, BUT IT DOESN'T GET BUILT. AND, AND WASHINGTON COMMONS WAS LISTED AND I MEAN, I REMEMBER SEEING THAT A YEAR OR TWO AGO. UH, WHAT'S THE UPDATE ON THAT? WASHINGTON COMMONS? UM, THE CITY STAFF IS WORKING WITH MID PENN AS WELL AS, UM, THE TRIBAL COMMUNITIES. GRAYTON IS DOING THE, UM, REVIEW ON THAT AND THERE'S BEEN SOME, SOME DELAYS WITH THAT PROCESS, BUT WE'RE WORKING CLOSELY WITH THEM ON THAT. DO THEY HAVE AN APPLICATION FOR FUNDING IN, OR THE FUNDING COME AFTER ALL THE ENVIRONMENTAL WORK? YEAH, ACTUALLY I CAN, UM, I WANTED TO PROVIDE THAT UPDATE. THEY DO NOT HAVE THEIR FULL ENTITLEMENTS YET. THEY NEED TO COMPLETE THE TRIBAL CONSULTATION, AND THEN THEY'VE BEEN WORKING WITH STAFF AND THEY WILL BE, UM, SUBMITTING AN SB 35 APPLICATION FOR THAT PROJECT. YEAH, I, I'M JUST TRYING TO CATCH IN MY MIND, MM-HMM, , WHEN WE'LL GET THE HOUSING WE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE THINKING ABOUT OR THAT SOMEBODY MAKES AN APPLICATION FOR, HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE BEFORE THAT HAPPENS? COULD YOU ALSO MENTIONED THE NUMBER THAT WENT INTO THE HOUSING LAND TRUST, UH, PROGRAM FOR THIS YEAR FOR FIRST TIME HOME BUYERS, FIRST TIME HOME BUYERS. THAT IS STILL LOW INCOME HOUSING THOUGH, RIGHT? IT'S UM, MODERATE HOUSING. YES, THAT'S RIGHT. SO, UM, FIVE HOMES WERE PURCHASED AND THOSE HOMES ARE SOLD RESOLD, UM, AND DEED RESTRICTED, AFFORDABLE AND PERPETUITY, UM, TO MODERATE INCOME EARNERS. SO UP TO 120% A MI. AND HOW MANY WAS THAT NUMBER THIS YEAR? THERE WERE FIVE TOTAL HOUSES THAT WERE ROLLED INTO THE PROGRAM. SO IF WE GET THAT'S A 15% INCLUSIONARY ORDINANCE OR THOSE, THOSE HOUSES, [01:20:01] RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT. SO IF THERE'S FIVE THAT WENT INTO OUR PROGRAM, IT'S 15% THAT, DOES THAT MEAN WE ONLY BUILT 32 3 HOUSES THIS YEAR? IS THAT HOW WE GET TO 15% IN FIVE HOUSES? THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ABOUT. YEAH, BECAUSE I MEAN, I KNOW WE DON'T BUILD HARDLY ANY HOUSES, AND I KNOW THE PUBLIC PERCEPTION IS WE DO BUILD HOUSING, BUT WHEN WE ONLY HAVE, WHEN 15% EQUALS FIVE, THAT, UH, THAT'S A SMALL NUMBER FOR EVERYTHING. ESPECIALLY IF THE NUMBER FOR THE MID PENTHOUSES IS 44 THAT CAME ON THIS YEAR. WE'RE BUILDING AS MANY AFFORDABLE HOUSES AS WE ARE NOT, UH, MARKET RATE HOUSING. THAT'S JUST A, UM, INTERESTING CONCLUSION FOR ME. UM, AND THAT, THOSE WERE MY QUESTIONS. AND WITH THAT, UH, I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT TO PUBLIC COMMENT. I'D LIKE TO ASK OUR CLERK IF WE RECEIVED ANY PUBLIC COMMENT PRIOR TO THE MEETING. WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM, BUT I CAN READ THE INSTRUCTIONS. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING IN PERSON SHOULD BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARDS TO THE CLERK'S DESK IF THEY HAVE NOT ALREADY DONE SO. SPEAKERS ARE REMINDED TO BE RESPECTFUL IN THEIR COMMENTS AND THAT THIS MEETING IS BEING TRANSLATED. PLEASE PAUSE BETWEEN SENTENCES FOR TRANSLATION AND SEEING NO ONE RUSHING TO THE CLERK'S DESK, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT, BRING IT BACK TO THE COUNCIL AND, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER HEALY. YEAH. MOVE APPROVAL. WE'LL SECOND THAT AND WE HAVE A SECOND FROM CATER THOMPSON. AND, UH, A ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. BARNACLE. AYE. CATER THOMPSON? YES. HEALY? YES. NOW? YES. ? YES. SHRIVES. YES. MCDONALD? YES. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND THAT BRINGS US TO OUR ITEM 12. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE WONDERFUL PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THE WORK BEING DONE IN OUR HOUSING DEPARTMENT. ITEM 12 IS TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING, RECEIVE PUBLIC TESTIMONY, PROVIDE COMMENTS ON THE DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT, CONSIDER PLANNING, COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION AND DIRECT STAFF TO PREPARE FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT FOR THE CREEKSIDE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT PROJECT AT 2 72 80 CASA GRANDE ROAD. AND TO, UH, HELP US WITH THIS TONIGHT WE HAVE OUR, UH, PRINCIPAL ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNER, OLIVIA IRVIN AND ALSO, UH, GREG POWELL, PRINCIPAL PLANNER. AND ARE WE ZOOMING INTO NO, NO. WE ARE ARRIVING, UH, IN STYLE HERE. OKAY. FLOWERS. I LIKE FLOWERS. OKAY. YOU MIGHT WIN. OKAY. THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR BEARING WITH US ON GETTING THAT TRANSITION. UH, GOOD EVENING. I AM OLIVIA IRVIN. I'M A PRINCIPAL ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNER AND I'VE BEEN OVERSEEING THE PROJECT'S ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW PROCESS ON BEHALF OF THE CITY. I'M JOINED TONIGHT BY MY COLLEAGUE GREG POWELL, PRINCIPAL PLANNER, WHO HAS BEEN PROCESSING THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW APPLICATION AS WELL AS NICK ANI, WHO IS VICE PRESIDENT OF RAINY PLANNING AND MANAGEMENT. UH, THEY'RE THE FIRM THAT THE CITY, UH, ENTERED INTO A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH TO PREPARE THE ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS. THE ITEM BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS THE DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT FOR THE CREEKWOOD HOUSING PROJECT. WE ARE NOW AT THAT POINT IN TIME WHERE WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW [01:25:01] PROCESS, WHICH, UH, KICKED OFF BACK IN 2022 WITH THE RELEASE OF AN INITIAL STUDY AND A NOTICE OF PREPARATION. AND WE HAVE BEEN IN THAT PROCESS, UH, SINCE THAT TIME. AND, UH, NOW WE HAVE PREPARED AND RELEASED AND CIRCULATED THE DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT FOR PUBLIC REVIEW AND COMMENT. AND THE HEARING THIS EVENING IS TO DO JUST THAT. IT IS TO RECEIVE AND COLLECT COMMENTS ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW DOCUMENT. UH, I WILL JUST MENTION THAT AT A FUTURE PUBLIC HEARING, UM, THE FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT, WHICH WOULD BE THE NEXT STEP IN THE PROCESS, WOULD COME BACK BEFORE THE COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION TO CERTIFY THE EIR THE, UM, FOLLOWING THIS ONLY FOLLOWING CERTIFICATION OF THE EIR. COULD THE PLANNING COMMISSION CONSIDER THE PROJECT'S ENTITLEMENTS? AND THOSE ARE LIMITED TO THE SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW, A VESTING TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP, AND A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT. BUT TONIGHT, THERE ARE NO PROJECT ENTITLEMENTS TO BE ACTED UPON. THE PURPOSE AGAIN, OF THIS HEARING IS TO RECEIVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW TO IDENTIFY WHERE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION OR CLARIFICATION MAY BE NEEDED TO UNDERSTAND THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS OF THE CREEKWOOD HOUSING DEVELOPMENT PROJECT FOR YOU TO CONSIDER THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WHICH I'LL GET TO AT THE END OF OUR STAFF'S PRESENTATION. AND THEN, UM, WE ARE LOOKING FOR A DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL FOR, UH, STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH PREPARING THE FINAL EIR TONIGHT. UM, AND, AND THAT THAT STEP INVOLVES RESPONDING TO THE COMMENTS RAISED ON THE DRAFT. SO WE ARE IN THAT COLLECTING AND RESPONDING TO COMMENTS PHASE. UH, SO WITH THAT, I'M GONNA HAND IT OVER TO NIF, UH, ANI TO TALK US THROUGH THE EIR REVIEW PROCESS AND THE FINDINGS THAT ARE PRESENTED IN, IN THERE. I REMEMBER SPEAK. RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD EVENING MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS NICK PAPAI WITH RAINING PLANNING AND MANAGEMENT, AGAIN, HIRED BY THE CITY TO PREPARE THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT FOR THE CREEKWOOD, UH, HOUSING DEVELOPMENT PROJECT AT TWO 70 AND TWO 80 CASA GRANDE ROAD. SO I'M GONNA RUN US THROUGH A, UH, POWERPOINT PRESENTATION HERE. AND, UH, A QUICK OVERVIEW ON, UH, THESE, THE FORMAT HERE. WE'RE GONNA GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT AT A FAIRLY HIGH LEVEL, TALK ABOUT THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT, UH, THE PURPOSE AND PROCESS. I COVER SOME KEY CONSIDERATIONS IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT, UH, DISCUSS ALTERNATIVES, UH, THAT ARE REQUIRED OF, UH, UNDER CQA. AND THEN, UH, WE WILL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT. SO LET'S START WITH A OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT. UH, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS SLIDE HERE, UH, THERE IS THE, THE AREA OUTLINED IN RED IS THE PROJECT SIDE ITSELF. UM, BUT THE PROJECT INCLUDES THE, WHAT WE CALL WHOLE OF THE PROJECT. AND SO THAT'S ONSITE AND OFFSITE IMPROVEMENTS. WE DO HAVE SOME OFFSITE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE SHOWN HERE IN PURPLE, UH, THAT, UH, CONSISTS OF A PATHWAY ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF ADOBE CREEK. AND HE PROPOSED, UM, PEDESTRIAN MULTI-USE PATH BRIDGE OVER ADOBE CREEK. UH, THE PROJECT SITE, THE ONSITE AREA IS SHOWN IN RED, CONSISTS OF APPROXIMATELY 5.2 ACRES. THAT'S, UH, TWO DIFFERENT PARCELS. IT'S TWO 70 CASA GRANDE ROAD AND TWO 80. UH, THERE ARE, UH, TWO RESIDENTS ON SITE, ONE OF WHICH WOULD BE RETAINED TOWARDS THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY. THAT WOULD BE IN A REMAINDER PARCEL. UH, SO THE PROPERTY OWNER COULD REMAIN ON SITE. UH, THE PARCEL OTHERWISE, UH, CONSIST OF, UM, SOME GRASSES THAT ARE, UH, GRAZED BY LIVESTOCK. I WANNA COVER JUST A LITTLE BIT ON THE SURROUNDING USES TO PROVIDE A BIT OF CONTEXT. UM, AS YOU CAN SEE AND MENTION, ADOBE CREEK FORMS THE EASTERN BOUNDARY OF THE SITE. UH, WE HAVE CASA GRANDE ROAD TO THE WEST AND THE CASA GRANDE HIGH SCHOOL. OF COURSE, ADJACENT, UH, TO THE NORTH WE HAVE CASA GRANDE SENIOR APARTMENTS. AND TO THE SOUTH WE HAVE THE CASA GRANDE SUBDIVISION RECENTLY COMPLETED, UM, ALSO KNOWN AS MCKENNA SPYGLASS ROAD, OF COURSE, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF ADOBE CREEK TO THE EAST. AND THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS, UH, BEYOND THAT. SO THE PROJECT, UH, CONSISTS OF A BESTING TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP, UM, THAT WOULD RESULT IN RETAINING ONE ONSITE RESIDENCE, AS I MENTIONED, AND DEVELOPING, UH, 59 DWELLING UNITS CONSTRUCTED ACROSS THREE DIFFERENT BLOCKS. UM, THE UNITS WOULD RANGE FROM TWO TO THREE STORIES, UH, IN HEIGHT, UM, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE, UH, CITY'S, UH, CODE REQUIREMENTS. THE PROJECT WOULD RESERVE 15% OF THE PROPOSED 59 UNITS AS BELOW MARKET RATE UNITS. THE ENTITLEMENTS OR THE DISCRETIONARY APPROVALS THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR THE PROJECT INCLUDES APPROVAL OF THIS VESTING TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP, UM, SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW, AND A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT. [01:30:04] THIS IS AN EXHIBIT SHOWING THE CIRCULATION PLAN FOR THE PROJECT. UM, JUST GENERALLY SPEAKING, ACCESS WOULD BE FROM CASA GRANDE ROAD FROM TWO NEW ENTRIES. UM, SIDEWALKS WOULD BE CONSTRUCTED WITHIN THE, UH, PROJECT. THOSE ARE SHOWN GENERALLY IN GREEN. UM, THERE WOULD BE A PEDESTRIAN EASEMENT THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR, UH, FOLKS TO TRAVEL FROM CASA GRANDE ROAD THROUGH THE SUBDIVISION AND THEN TO THE PROPOSED MULTI-USE PATHWAY, UH, SHOWN IN PINK, UH, ON THE EXHIBIT. UM, I WOULD NOTE THAT THE PORTION OF THE PINK TRAIL, UH, TO THE SOUTH OF THE SITE, UH, AT THE MCKENNA SUBDIVISION IS EXISTING NOW THAT, UH, CIRCULATES AROUND AT A DETENTION BASIN. UM, SO THE PROPOSED ONSITE, UH, PATHWAYS, UH, WOULD CONNECT TO THAT EXISTING PATH TO THE SOUTH THAT EXISTS. AND OF COURSE, YOU CAN SEE THE, UH, BRIDGE SHOWN THERE CROSSING ADOBE CREEK, UM, AND LANDING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CREEK, UH, NEAR THE CORRIDOR OF SPYGLASS ROAD AS PART OF THE CASA GRANDE SUBDIVISION. UH, UH, I JUST WOULD NOTE IN TERMS OF OVERALL CIRCULATION, UM, A NEW PEDESTRIAN CROSSING WAS INSTALLED ON CROSS A GRANDE ROAD NEAR THE HIGH SCHOOL. UM, THAT INCLUDES A RAISED MEDIAN PROVIDING A PEDESTRIAN REFUGE AND RAPID RECTANGULAR FLASHING BEACONS WITH, UH, UH, WARNING LIGHTS AND RADAR FEEDBACK SIGNS AS WELL. THE, UH, THE TRAIL ALONG THE, THE WEST SIDE OF ADOBE CREEK, THAT IS PROPOSED AS PART OF THIS PROJECT, UM, THAT WOULD BE A 10 FOOT WIDE, UM, MULTI-USE PATHWAY, UH, THAT WOULD, UH, BE STUBBED AT THE SITE'S NORTHERN PROPERTY BOUNDARY. AS YOU CAN SEE THERE, AS I MENTIONED, CONNECTING TO THE SOUTH TO, UH, THE MCKENNA SUBDIVISION AND THEN ALSO CIRCULATING, OF COURSE ACROSS ADOBE CREEK TO THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS TO THE EAST. UH, THIS IS JUST A, A KIND OF A ZOOMING IN HERE ON THE PROPOSED BRIDGE CROSSING. JUST A FEW DETAILS HERE FOR YOU. UH, THE BRIDGE WOULD BE, UM, LOCATED, UH, OFFSITE ON A CITY OWNED PARCEL. UM, IT WOULD CONNECT, UM, USING A SPAN OVER THE CREEK THAT WOULD BE LOCATED ATOP ABUTMENTS. THE BRIDGE WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY EIGHT FEET WIDE, COMPOSED OF STEEL FRAMING AND WOOD DECKING FOR THE WALKING SURFACE, AND FOUR AND A HALF FOOT SAFETY RAILS. UM, GENERALLY SPEAKING, THE BRIDGE LOCATION WAS, UH, DETERMINED BASED ON LEASE DAMAGING TO THE, UH, RESOURCES ALONG THE CREEK, THE RIPARIAN CORRIDOR. UM, AND WE'LL COVER THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL WHEN WE GET INTO THE EIR OVERVIEW. THIS IS JUST GENERAL SQL PROCESS HERE. UM, WE ARE, UH, CURRENTLY OF COURSE HAVING THE COMMENT PERIOD, UH, ONGOING THROUGH THIS MEETING. UM, WE WERE AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON SEPTEMBER 10TH, UH, BEFORE TO ACCEPT COMMENTS ON THE DRAFT ER OF COURSE, BEFORE YOU'RE HERE TONIGHT. AND, UH, WITH A FINAL EIR ANTICIPATED IN LATE 2024. AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE FURTHER AS WE GET INTO THE PRESENTATION. SO THE PURPOSE OF SQA, WE'LL KIND OF RUN THROUGH THIS HERE IN TERMS OF ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW. IT'S REALLY A, UH, INFORMATION AND PUBLIC DISCLOSURE PROCESS, UM, WHEREBY THE DECISION MAKERS, THE PUBLIC, ARE NOTIFIED OF THE POTENTIAL ENVIRONMENTAL CONSEQUENCES OF THE PROJECT. UM, CEQ IDENTIFIES MITIGATION MEASURES TO TRY TO REDUCE SIGNIFICANT PROJECT IMPACTS, UM, IDENTIFIES ALTERNATIVES TO THE PROJECT THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED. UM, IT DOES NOT EVALUATE THE PROJECT MERITS, UH, NOR GRANT ANY PROJECT APPROVALS OR ENTITLEMENTS. UM, ROLE OF THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, IS TO CONSIDER PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, THAT WERE MADE ON THE 10TH OF SEPTEMBER. CONSIDER THE ADEQUACY OF THE DRAFT DIR, IDENTIFY ANY CHANGES, CLARIFICATIONS, OR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND TO DIRECT STAFF TO PREPARE THE FINAL EIR. I'M NOT GONNA COVER THIS IN ANY DETAIL. THIS JUST SHOWS THE DIFFERENT SECTIONS OF THE DRAFT EIR, UM, INCLUDING, UM, OF COURSE THE PROJECT DESCRIPTION BEING THE, THE CENTRAL PORTION OF THE DOCUMENT ON WHICH THE ANALYSIS IS BASED. AND THEN WE HAVE VARIOUS, UH, TECHNICAL CHAPTERS. UH, THE LIST HERE DOES NOT REPRESENT EVERY TOPIC IN SQL. WE DID PREPARE WHAT'S CALLED AN INITIAL STUDY, UM, AT THE KIND OF EARLY PORTION OF THE PROCESS. THAT INITIAL STUDY WAS RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC ALONG WITH THE NOTICE OF PREPARATION. AND THAT IS KIND, SERVES AS A FOCUSING DOCUMENT WHERE WE'VE REALLY FOCUSED THE, THE BODY OF THE EIR, IF YOU WILL, ON THOSE TOPICS THAT REQUIRED FURTHER ANALYSIS OR IDENTIFIED ANY IMPACTS. IT COULDN'T BE FULLY MITIGATED. SOME [01:35:01] KEY CONSIDERATIONS WE WANTED TO, TO COVER INCLUDE, UM, SIGNIFICANT AND MITIGATABLE IMPACTS. SO THOSE CONSIST OF BIOLOGICAL RESOURCES, HYDROLOGY, WATER QUALITY, AND TRANSPORTATION, SPECIFICALLY CONSTRUCTION, UH, TRAFFIC, ALL THOSE IMPACTS, GENERALLY SPEAKING COULD BE FULLY MITIGATED WITH THE MEASURES INCLUDED IN THE DRAFT. DIR. THERE WERE A COUPLE OF SE TOPICS FOR WHICH IMPACTS COULD NOT BE FULLY MITIGATED, AND THOSE ARE LISTED HERE. THAT INCLUDES GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS AND TRANSPORTATION, SPECIFICALLY VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A LITTLE FURTHER DETAIL. FOR BIOLOGICAL RESOURCES, THIS IS A GENERAL EXHIBIT SHOWING THE EXISTING HABITATS ON SITE AND THE AREAS THAT WOULD BE IMPACTED, UM, SHOWN IN KIND OF THE HATCHING. UM, WHAT'S A COUPLE THINGS TO NOTE HERE. ADOBE CREEK IS, UH, DESIGNATED BY THE NATIONAL, UH, ATMOSPHERIC ADMINISTRATION FISHERIES DEPARTMENT AS CRITICAL HABITAT FOR STEELHEAD. STEELHEAD HAVE BEEN OBSERVED IN ADOBE CREEK. UM, THEY'RE RECORDED IN THE STATE'S, UH, DATABASE FOR SPECIES RECORDS AND AS WELL AS THE UNITED ANGLERS OF CASA GRANDE. THEY HAVE, UH, OBSERVED THE FISH. UH, THEN THEY HAVE ALSO BEEN, UM, INVOLVED OF COURSE IN THE RESTORATION AND RECOVERY OF ADOBE CREEK ITSELF. UM, THE PROJECT DOES INCLUDE A SETBACK FROM THE CREEK AS REQUIRED BY THE GENERAL PLAN. ALL BUILDING AREAS WOULD BE SET BACK FROM THE CREEK BY 50 FEET, BUT THERE ARE SOME LIMITED, UM, INCURSIONS PROPOSED FOR NEW STORMWATER OUTFALLS, UM, SOME BRIDGE, UH, ABUTMENTS AS WELL. UM, THE DRAFT THE HOUR INCLUDES MITIGATION MEASURES TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY WORK DONE WITHIN THOSE AREAS IS DONE DURING THE, UH, WHAT WE MIGHT CALL OFF SEASON OR THE DRY SEASON, SO THAT THERE'S NOT WATER PERSISTENT IN THE CREEK THAT COULD BE IMPACTED BY CONSTRUCTION. UM, THERE'S ALSO VARIOUS MITIGATION MEASURES TO PROTECT POTENTIALLY OCCURRING, UH, SPECIAL STATUS SPECIES AND THE MITIGATIONS REQUIRE CONSULTATION AND INVOLVEMENT OF THE DIFFERENT REGULATORY AGENCIES, INCLUDING THE NATIONAL, UM, MARINE FISHERY SERVICE, UH, THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND WILDLIFE, UM, AND US ARMY CORPS, IF ANY WORK IS DONE BELOW THE ORDINARY HIGH WATER MARK OF THE CREEK. I GUESS JUST GONNA TOUCH ON HYDROLOGY FOR, FOR A MOMENT HERE. THERE'S A RECENT EFFORT, UH, WHEREBY THE, THE FEMA AGENCY REMAPPED THIS AREA AND, UH, APPROVED WHAT'S CALLED A LETTER OF MAP REVISION THAT WAS DONE IN 2023. THAT EFFORT ESSENTIALLY REMOVED THE PROJECT SITE AND SURROUND SOME OF THE SURROUNDING AREA FROM THE A HUNDRED YEAR FLOODPLAIN, UH, NONETHELESS TO ENSURE CONSISTENCY WITH THE, UH, CURRENT CITYWIDE, UM, MAPPING EFFORTS RELATED TO THE GENERAL PLAN UPDATE. UM, FOR THIS EIR, WE EMPLOY THE SAME MODELING RESULTS, UM, TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A CONSERVATIVE ANALYSIS OF, UH, THE POTENTIAL HYDROLOGY THROUGH THIS AREA USING THE GENERAL PLAN MODELING. UM, ESSENTIALLY THE SITE IS MAPPED IN THE A HUNDRED YEAR FLOODPLAIN. UM, THE PROJECT HAS BEEN DESIGNED TO ADDRESS THAT AND WITH INCORPORATION OF, UH, DETENTION FEATURES, UH, THE MODELING SHOWS THAT THE PROJECT WOULD NOT SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE ANY WATER SURFACE ELEVATIONS UP OR DOWNSTREAM. AND, AND THAT INCLUDES, UH, FILL TO ACCOUNT FOR ELEVATION OF THE BUILDING, UH, PADS AS WELL. THIS SLIDE HERE COVERS TRANSPORTATION AND IN A LITTLE BIT OF DETAIL, THIS IS THE VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED THAT, UH, PROBABLY ALL WELL FAMILIAR WITH THE STATE'S TRANSITION US FROM LOOKING AT LEVEL OF SERVICE TO, UH, VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED, UH, IN SQL ANALYSIS. UM, SO ESSENTIALLY TO PRESENT THIS INFORMATION HERE, WE HAVE STARTING A CURRENT CITYWIDE, UH, VMT PER CAPITA OR PER PERSON IS 17.8, UH, VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED PER CAPITA. IN ORDER FOR THIS PROJECT TO HAVE A LESS THAN SIGNIFICANT VMT IMPACT, THERE WOULD NEED TO BE AT LEAST A 16.8% REDUCTION BELOW THAT NUMBER, WHICH WOULD BE 14.8. AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE TABLE HERE, UM, THE PROJECT WOULD HAVE APPROXIMATELY 16 VMT PER CAPITA. SO THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT. UM, THE PROJECT DOES INCLUDE FEATURES BY DESIGN TO ADDRESS VMT, INCLUDING INCREASED DENSITY, UM, THE PEDESTRIAN MULTI-USE PATH CONNECTION OVER ADOBE CREEK. AND THOSE FEATURES ARE BUILT INTO THE MODELING. AND SO THERE'S REALLY LIMITED EFFECTIVENESS OF OTHER MEASURES TO ADDRESS THIS IMPACT. THAT'S WHY IT REMAINS SIGNIFICANT, UNAVOIDABLE. UH, THE GREENHOUSE GAS ANALYSIS CONCLUDES THAT THERE WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT AND UNAVOIDABLE [01:40:01] IMPACT, UM, RELATED TO GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS. AND THAT'S ESSENTIALLY BECAUSE THE, THE BAY AREA AIR QUALITY MANAGEMENT DISTRICT HAS SAID, IN ORDER TO HAVE A LESS THAN SIGNIFICANT GHG IMPACT, YOU NEED TO ALSO ADDRESS VMT AND MEET THAT VMT THRESHOLD. SO BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT VMT IMPACT, WE IDENTIFIED FOR TRAFFIC THAT CARRIES THROUGH TO GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS PROJECT IS HOWEVER IT WOULD NOTE CONSISTENT WITH CITY ORDINANCES, UH, NOT UTILIZING NATURAL GAS AND COMPLIANT, OF COURSE WITH CALGARY AND TIER TWO, UM, EV ELECTRIC VEHICLE PARKING REQUIREMENTS. SO, ALTERNATIVES, I'M GONNA WRAP IT UP WITH THIS SLIDE HERE. MY PORTION, UH, THE ALTERNATIVES INCLUDES A RANGE OF ALTERNATIVES AS REQUIRED BY CE Q. ACE QA REQUIRES THAT, UH, THE, THE EIR INCLUDE A RANGE. THERE'S NO DEFINITION OF WHAT A RANGE IS. IT'S CLEARLY MORE THAN ONE, BUT, UH, THERE'S NO SPECIFICATION THERE. SO WE HAVE A TOTAL OF FOUR ALTERNATIVES, UM, OR EXCUSE ME, THREE. UM, AND ALTERNATIVE MUST MEET MOST OF THE BASIC OBJECTIVES OF A PROJECT AND AVOID OR SUBSTANTIALLY LESS THAN AT LEAST ONE SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT. SO THAT'S WHAT OUR ALTERNATIVE HAS TO MEET BY SE A DEFINITION. UM, SO WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS THE NO PROJECT, NO BUILD ALTERNATIVE. AND THAT IS REQUIRED, UH, UNDER ALL CASES FOR ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORTS. AND THAT'S SIMPLY THE, THE SITE WOULD REMAIN IN ITS CURRENT CONDITION. WE HAVE THE NO BRIDGE ALTERNATIVE, AND THAT INCLUDES ALL COMPONENTS OF THE PROJECT EXCEPT FOR THE BRIDGE CONNECTION OVER ADOBE CREEK FOR THAT MULTI-USE PATHWAY. WE HAVE ALSO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ALTERNATIVE, WHICH IS THAT ALL 59 UNITS WOULD BE OFFERED AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND ALL OTHER PROJECT COMPONENTS WOULD REMAIN THE SAME. WE, WE'D IDENTIFY WHAT'S CALLED ENVIRONMENTALLY SUPERIOR ALTERNATIVE IN ANALYSIS. UM, THAT ENVIRONMENTALLY SUPERIOR ALTERNATIVE IS ACTUALLY THE NO PROJECT, BUT THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT GUIDELINES SAY IF THAT'S THE CASE, YOU HAVE TO IDENTIFY ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE THAT ACTUALLY WOULD MEET MOST OF THE BASIC OBJECTIVES. SO THAT'S WHERE WE THEN IDENTIFY THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ALTERNATIVE AS THE ENVIRONMENTALLY SUPERIOR. AND WITH THAT, I THINK I'M GONNA TRANSFER IT BACK TO YOU. YEAH, PASS IT BACK. OKAY. AND I'M JUST GONNA WRAP UP BY, UM, GIVING A SUMMARY OF WHAT, UM, OCCURRED AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING, UH, LAST TUESDAY ON SEPTEMBER 10TH. AND THEN I'LL WRAP UP WITH, UM, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. BUT I AM GONNA TAKE A MINUTE AND WALK THROUGH THAT. UM, SO, UH, BRIEFLY, THERE WAS, UM, PUBLIC COMMENT AND COMMISSIONER COMMENT, UM, FOLLOWING, UH, STAFF'S PRESENTATION. UM, AND AFTER THAT, UH, STAFF PUT TOGETHER A SUMMARY OF MATERIALS AND, UM, AND BECAUSE OF THE TIMING AND THE DATE OF THE PACKET FOR TONIGHT, THAT CAME AS, UH, A SUPPLEMENTAL INFORMATION. SO THAT WAS, UM, SUBMITTED LATER. SO THAT IS IN ATTACHMENT, UH, FIVE OF THIS, UH, THIS EVENING'S AGENDA ITEM. AND, UM, AND WHAT IT DOES IS IT, UM, SUMMARIZES THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED A RESOLUTION WITH MODIFICATIONS, RECOMMENDING THAT THE COUNCIL DIRECT STAFF TO PROCEED WITH, UH, PREPARATION OF THE FINAL EIR AND TO SPECIFICALLY CONSIDER THOSE THREE ITEMS LISTED HERE. SO I'M GONNA BRIEFLY TALK THROUGH THOSE, UM, AND YOU'LL SEE THE WRITEUP IN THAT MATERIAL AS WELL. BUT BEFORE, UM, I GET INTO THOSE, I DID WANNA POINT OUT ANOTHER, UH, DISCUSSION THAT OCCURRED AT THE COMMISSION WAS IN REGARDS TO, UM, QUESTIONS THAT WERE RAISED ON THE CITY'S, UH, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT THAT'S IN THE PIPELINE THAT INVOLVES IMPROVEMENTS TO CASA GRANDE ROAD. AND, UM, AS YOU'LL SEE IN THAT ATTACHMENT NUMBER FIVE, THAT IS SUPPORTED BY A MEMO FROM PUBLIC WORKS AND UTILITIES, UH, THAT BRIEFLY EX, UH, DESCRIBES THE STATUS OF THAT CITY EFFORT, WHICH IS, UM, JUST IN THE DESIGN STAGE. UM, AND THAT THAT WORK IS SLATED FOR 2027 A COUPLE YEARS OUT. THAT'S OF COURSE PENDING FUTURE COUNCIL, UM, BUDGET ADOPTION. AND THAT, UH, DOES LAY OUT SOME PRELIMINARY DESIGN CONSIDERATIONS FOR WHAT THAT, UH, THOSE IMPROVEMENTS MIGHT LOOK LIKE. AND IT SUGGESTS THAT, UH, BASED ON THE ROAD, UH, VOLUME AND CAPACITY THAT IT IS, UM, UH, ELIGIBLE OR A, UH, ROAD DIET MAY BE APPROPRIATE, WHICH WOULD REDUCE THE VEHICLE LANES AND THAT WIDTH COULD BE REALLOCATED TO OTHER USES, SUCH AS ON ONSITE, UH, ON STREET PARKING OR PROTECTED BIKE LANES. SO THAT MATERIAL'S THERE, THERE'S A NICE SCHEMATIC THAT SHOWS, UM, SOME OF THOSE POTENTIAL DESIGNS. BUT AGAIN, THOSE ARE VERY MUCH IN THAT, UH, PRELIMINARY EARLY STAGE 'CAUSE THAT'S SLATED FOR, FOR A COUPLE YEARS OUT. UM, SO I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT AS WELL. 'CAUSE THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT HAD BEEN RAISED. UM, SO NOW TO GET INTO EACH OF THE ITEMS THAT WERE SPECIFICALLY, UM, REQUESTED BY THE COMMISSION THAT THE COUNCIL [01:45:01] CONSIDER, UH, THERE WAS A ASK THAT THE, UM, A NO BRIDGE ALTERNATIVE BE EXPANDED UPON. AND I JUST WANNA BE REALLY CLEAR THAT THE DRAFT EIR DOES ALREADY INCLUDE THAT AS THE ALTERNATIVE, AS YOU JUST HEARD. UM, SO THAT IS IN THERE. AND IF THE COUNCIL IS INTERESTED IN PURSUING A NO BRIDGE ALTERNATIVE, UM, THAT DIRECTION COULD BE GIVEN THIS EVENING. AND THE FINAL EIR WOULD BE PREPARED ACCORDINGLY. UM, THE COMMISSIONERS ALSO RECOMMENDED THAT AN ALTERNATIVE BRIDGE LOCATION BE CONSIDERED, UH, THE, AS YOU HEARD, UH, AS WELL, THE CROSSING PROPOSED AT THAT LOCATION WAS SELECTED BASED ON, UH, INFORMATION BY, UH, BASED ON, UH, BIOLOGICAL REVIEW AS WELL AS ENGINEERING. AND IT WAS REALLY INTENDED TO MINIMIZE THE DISTURBANCE, UH, TO THE CHANNEL AND THE RIPARIAN CORRIDOR AND THE TREES. UM, IT'S CERTAINLY POSSIBLE THAT OTHER LOCATIONS COULD BE FEASIBLE, UM, BUT IT WOULD BE EXPECTED THAT THOSE WOULD HAVE SLIGHTLY GREATER, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS. UH, BUT, UH, AT COUNCIL'S DIRECTION TONIGHT, THE FINAL EIR COULD CERTAINLY FURTHER INVESTIGATE ALTERNATIVE BRIDGE LOCATIONS OR, UH, PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THE SPECIFICS OF THAT BRIDGE LOCATION SELECTION. SO I WANTED TO, UM, NOTE THAT. AND THEN, UM, THE SECOND ITEM THAT THE COMMISSION FURTHER RECOMMENDED, UH, ADDITIONAL ANALYSIS OF PROJECT IMPACTS AND MITIGATION AFTER OCCUPANCY OF THE PROJECT, AND PARTICULARLY RELATED TO THE RIPARIAN CORRIDOR AND THE, UM, THE ACTIVITIES ON THE BRIDGE. AND AGAIN, THE, THE DRAFT DIR DOES ABSOLUTELY EVALUATE, UM, THE FULL OPERATION MAINTENANCE AND USE OF THAT BRIDGE. SO THAT INFORMATION IS ALREADY IN THE, IN THE DRAFT DIR. UM, AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, IT'S WORTH MENTIONING THAT BECAUSE THE, UM, UH, THE ADOBE CREEK IS A JURISDICTIONAL FEATURE THAT THOSE ANY IMPROVEMENTS, THE BRIDGE, UH, ANY IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE BED BACON CHANNEL ARE SUBJECT TO THE, UH, REVIEW AND APPROVAL BY THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND WILDLIFE AND THE REGIONAL WATER QUALITY CONTROL BOARD, AS THOSE AGENCIES DO HAVE THEIR DISCRETION FOR ISSUING THOSE PERMITS. AND THEY MAY ADD TO, TO THOSE MEASURES OR, UM, ADD ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS FOR ACTIVITIES WITHIN THAT. SO THAT'S ANOTHER, UM, PLACE THAT THEY COULD, COULD DO THAT. SO THE COUNCIL MAY WISH TO PROVIDE FURTHER DIRECTION ON THE ADEQUACY OF THE EIR IN, UM, EVALUATING THE ACTIVITIES ASSOCIATED WITH THE OPERATION OF THE BRIDGE AND WHAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION MIGHT BE HELPFUL FOR, UM, TO INCLUDE IN THE FINAL EIR. AND THEN FINALLY, THE, UM, THE THIRD BULLET HERE IS THE, UM, REQUEST TO PURSUE THE FINANCIAL FEASIBILITY OF THE 100% AFFORDABLE HOUSING ALTERNATIVE AND ITS ABILITY TO REDUCE OR AVOID IMPACTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE VEHICLE MILES TRAVEL TO THE GREENHOUSE GAS, UM, GAS EMISSIONS. AND I'LL JUST, UM, THERE'S A LOT TO UNPACK THERE AND I'LL JUST, UH, SAY THAT THE SUPPLEMENTAL MEMO DOES OFFER THAT ADDITIONAL ANALYSIS FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION. AND I'LL JUST MAKE TO FINAL POINTS, WHICH IS THAT, UM, THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE AN APPLICATION ON THE SITE FOR A HUNDRED PERCENT AFFORDABLE. UH, THE PROS PROJECT DOES MEET THE CITY'S 15% ONSITE INCLUSIONARY HOUSING REQUIREMENTS. SORRY, IF I COULD JUST INTERRUPT AND HAVE YOU SLOW A BIT DOWN FOR THE TRANSLATORS. OH, SORRY. GETTING SO EXCITED, . UM, SO THE, UM, I'LL BACK UP. SO THE, THERE IS NO 100% AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT THAT IS, UH, THAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED. THE PROPOSED PROJECT DOES INDEED MEET THE CITY'S 15% ONSITE INCLUSIONARY REQUIREMENTS AND THE GENERAL NEED FOR HOUSING AS HAS BEEN ENVISIONED BY BOTH THE GENERAL PLAN, UM, MULTIPLE CYCLES OF THE CITY'S, UH, HOUSING ELEMENT, AND, UH, AND IS FURTHER, IT IS ELIGIBLE FOR THE HOUSING, UM, ACCOUNTABILITY ACT. AND IT, UH, CERTAINLY DOES ADVANCE THE CITY AND ITS PRO HOUSING DESIGNATION JUST BY THE MERITS OF BEING A CONSISTENT PROJECT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN THAT OFFERS, UM, THAT OFFERS HOUSING. UH, SO IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT CITY COUNCIL SPECIFICALLY CONSIDER THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S, UH, RECOMMENDATION TO SUBJECT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ALTERNATIVE TO FURTHER INVESTIGATION AND DIRECT STAFF ACCORDINGLY WHEN, UM, AS WE BEGIN TO PREPARE THE FINAL IR SHOULD WE RECEIVE THAT DIRECTION TONIGHT. SO, UH, WITH THAT I WILL MOVE ON TO THE FORMAL RECOMMENDATION SLIDE BY PRESSING THIS BUTTON. AND THAT IS, AGAIN, TO RECEIVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE DRAFT DIR, TO PROVIDE COMMENTS ON THE DRAFT DIR AND TO CONSIDER THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION ON THE DRAFT. AND SHOULD THE, UH, COUNCIL CHOOSE ADOPT RESOLUTION ATTACHMENT ONE TO YOUR STAFF REPORT DIRECTING STAFF TO PROCEED WITH PREPARATION OF THE FINAL EIR. AND THAT COMPLETES STAFF'S PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. A GREAT PRESENTATION. UM, I'D LIKE TO BRING IT UP HERE TO COUNCIL FOR A FEW QUESTIONS ON WHAT WE JUST HEARD. IT'S QUITE A BIT. SO, UH, WHO WOULD LIKE TO, UH, JOIN IN FIRST? STRIKE THAT. NO, NO NEED TO HAVE A, UH, [01:50:01] TO HAVE A QUESTION. IF YOU DON'T HAVE A QUESTION, THE VICE MAYOR RI I TAKE IT AWAY. OKAY. SO FOR THE, UM, UH, FOR THE VINYL ART IN THIS PROCESS, GOING FROM DRAFT TO FINAL, IS THERE ANY OPTIONS WHERE WE COULD ACTUALLY SUGGEST CHANGES TO THE ACTUAL PLAN ITSELF? TO WHAT IS THERE? OR DO WE HAVE TO JUST LIVE WITH THE ACTUAL PROPOSED PLAN? UH, SO THE PROJECT THAT'S PROPOSED IS WHAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS IT MUST REVIEW. AND SO THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN DONE. BUT THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVES COMPONENT, UH, AND YOU HEARD THE RANGE OF THOSE ALTERNATIVES THAT WERE CONSIDERED THIS EVENING. IF YOU HAVE A SUGGESTION OF A DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVE THAT MIGHT HELP MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION, THAT ABSOLUTELY IS ON THE TABLE FOR CONSIDERATION. SO I JUST, JUST CHECKING IT. OKAY. SO BEFORE I ASK MY QUESTIONS, I WANNA KNOW, UH, MAKE I BRING UP IDEAS. SO I DID LISTEN TO THE ENTIRE, UH, UM, UH, PRESENTATION AND, UH, COMMENTS BACK AT THE, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION. AND I THINK THERE IS A LOT THERE THAT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED, UH, INTENSELY AND, UH, UH, NEEDS TO BE, UH, UH, TALKED ABOUT WITHIN THE ENVIRONMENTAL REPORT THAT WAS BEING BROUGHT UP. SO IF, UM, LIKE THE, ONE OF THE ONES IS THE THREE STORY TRIPLEXES, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A SHADOW EFFECT FROM THE THREE STORY TRIPLEXES ESPECIALLY. UM, 'CAUSE THERE'S THE PARKING LOT THERE, AND I THINK IT'S MAYBE NOT AS MAJOR AS MOST PEOPLE THINK THAT 'CAUSE THERE'S A PARKING AREA ON THAT SIDE. BUT THE VERY FINAL LAST ONE THERE IN THE FAR, UH, SOUTHEAST CORNER, UM, IS DEFINITELY GOING TO BE HAVING A SHADOW EFFECT ON THE GARDEN THAT'S NEXT DOOR. AND I KNOW, UH, FROM BEING A HORTICULTURALIST, THAT THAT SHADOW IS GOING TO HIGHLY IMPACT THE ABILITY TO GROW VEGETABLES IN THAT VEGETABLE GARDEN. SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE DO A F FURTHER ANALYSIS ON PARTICULARLY THE SHADOW EFFECT AND THE 'CAUSE. THAT WAS MY RESEARCH PROJECT THAT I DID WAY BACK WHEN WAS LOOKING AT LIGHT IMPACT ON AND GROWTH OF PLANTS. SO I KNOW THAT WE'LL HAVE A MAJOR IMPACT, AND I'VE EXPERIENCED THAT AT MY OWN HOUSE. PUTTING UP A BUILDING NEXT TO A GARDEN GARDEN DOESN'T FUNCTION VERY WELL ANYMORE. SO THAT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED. SO I LOOKED AT A SHADOW EFFECT, UH, ON THERE. UM, AND THEN ALSO, NOT JUST THE GARDEN, BUT THERE'S SOME CLAIMS ABOUT THE SHADOW EFFECT ON THE ACTUAL BUILDINGS NEXT DOOR. UH, UH, AND SO LOOKING THOSE TRIPLEXES AND DOES THOSE SHOWERS ACTUALLY REACH AT ANY TIME OF THE YEAR, PARTICULARLY WINTER TIME WHEN SUNLIGHT IS MOST IMPORTANT. SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A, YOU WANT THEM TO REPLY. YEAH. UM, SO THE, UH, HAPPY TO PROVIDE ANY CLARIFICATION ON A QUESTION, ANY COMMENTS THAT ARE RAISED THIS EVENING ON SUGGESTIONS ON THE WHAT TO BE INCLUDED IN THE DRAFT? EIR WILL BE, UH, COLLECTED AND RESPONDED TO IN THE FINAL, IN THE FINAL EIR. OKAY. THAT THEY PUT THAT IN QUESTION. DOES THE, UH, WILL THE FINAL EIR INCLUDE A SHADOW EFFECT FROM THE TRIPLEXES? OKAY. SO THAT, UH, IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT, UM, COULD BE DISCUSSED. I WOULD, UM, POINT OUT A COUPLE OF THINGS. ONE IS THAT THIS PROJECT IS COMPLIANT WITH THE HEIGHT, UM, STANDARD OF THE CITY. SO, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S ONE REASON YOU DIDN'T SEE THAT IN THERE ALREADY. UM, BECAUSE IT MEETS WHAT IS ALLOWED BY THE EXISTING REGULATION. THERE'S NO, UM, USE PERMIT. THERE'S NO, UM, HEIGHT EXCEPTION. THIS IS, UH, ALLOWED, UM, AN ALLOWED HEIGHT. UH, SO WE CAN CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, FURTHER CONSIDER THAT. AND SO THERE'S, SO IT'S NOT CONSIDERED AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT THAT THE GARDEN CAN'T EXIST NEXT DOOR. THAT'S NOT AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT. UH, WELL, THERE'S DIFFERENT, UM, THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS THAT SHADE AND SHADOW IS TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT. UM, IT, UH, IT FALLS UNDER, UM, AESTHETICS TYPICALLY. UH, IT IS, UH, IT DOES COME UP IN, UH, PLACES LIKE SAN FRANCISCO OR IN, UM, AREAS WHERE YOU HAVE A MUCH HIGHER OR, OR A, A SITUATION WHERE YOU HAVE A HEIGHT EXCEEDANCE, THEN YOU ABSOLUTELY WOULD LOOK AT THAT. BUT IF YOU'RE TYPICALLY IN COMPLIANCE, UM, THEN YOU, YOU WOULD, YOU WE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN, UH, NORMALLY PROMPTED TO LOOK AT THAT. WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT IMPACTS THAT SIT, UH, SIGNIFICANTLY AFFECT A SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER OF, UM, UH, UH, INDIVIDUALS. UH, SO I, I I, I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, I THINK WE WOULD TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION, UM, BUT I'M HAPPY TO KIND OF THINK ABOUT IT, PUT MY HEAD TOGETHER AND COME UP WITH THAT. I'LL MOVE ON. YEAH. UM, ONE OF THE THINGS IS, UH, WAS THE COMPLAINTS EARLIER, UH, ABOUT THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS, AMOUNT OF TRASH THAT WOULD BE POSSIBLY COLLECTED ON THAT AND, UH, THE TRAVEL PATTERNS OF PEOPLE ON THE TRAILS. AND, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS TO CONSIDER, UM, ARE WE ALSO, UH, TWO THINGS TO CONSIDER IS, UH, WOULD WE POSSIBLY ADD SECURITY CAMERAS ON THE TRAILS TO MODIFY OR CHANGE THE, THOSE BEHAVIORS, UM, TO SAVE THE AMOUNT OF TRASH THAT'S UP THERE? WILL THERE BE A, A PROGRAM OR A PLAN TO PUT IN PLACE TO MITIGATE OR TO, UM, [01:55:01] COMPENSATE FOR THE, UH, ADDITIONAL AMOUNT OF TRASH THAT MAY SHOW UP FROM THE STUDENTS, UH, PASSING THROUGH? UM, SO DO WE HAVE SOME, UM, POSSIBILITIES OF ALTERNATIVES TO LOOK AT PROGRAMS FOR, UM, MITIGATIONS AND, AND CHANGES IN BEHAVIOR AND PATTERNS AND SECURITY FOR THE TRAIL SYSTEM? IS THAT A POSSIBLE ALTERNATIVE BESIDES JUST NOT HAVING THE, THE BRIDGE? UH, YES. SO, UH, CERTAINLY, I, I HEAR ONE OF YOUR COMMENTS, UH, IS TO CONSIDER HAVING TRASH RECEPTACLES. UM, NO, I'M THINKING ABOUT A WHOLE PROGRAM, HAVING A PROGRAM WHERE THE HATCHERY FOLKS ARE, ARE PAID TO COME IN AND CLEAN UP THE CREEK MORE PERIODICALLY, UM, AND THAT WE HAVE OTHER SECURITY CAMERAS IN PLACE TO, TO IDENTIFY IF THERE'S, UH, CULPRITS INVOLVED, UH, FOR ANY GENETICS THAT ARE GOING ON BEHIND THE HOUSE, WHATEVER. SO IS THERE A, UM, UH, IMPACT MITIGATION FOR, UM, ADDITIONAL FEATURES THAT COULD BE ADDED IN TO COMPENSATE INSTEAD OF NO BRIDGE OR A YES BRIDGE? HOW ABOUT A BRIDGE WITH A LOT MORE SECURITY AROUND IT AND A LOT MORE PROGRAM AROUND IT? IS THAT A POSSIBLE ALTERNATIVE? YEAH, THAT'S ABSOLUTELY SOMETHING THAT CAN BE, UH, FURTHER INVESTIGATED AND, UH, DETAILED. OKAY, GOOD. BECAUSE, UH, WE'D ALSO CONSIDER IT, I THINK THE, UM, UH, TRAIL MATERIALS WAS BROUGHT UP EARLIER. CAN WE CHANGE THE TRAIL MATERIALS? YEAH, YEAH. AT THE, BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THERE'RE GONNA BE, IS THAT A POSSIBILITY? CC UH, VICE MAYOR, IF, IF I COULD INTERRUPT JUST BRIEFLY. YEAH. UM, I, I WANT TO PROVIDE A REMINDER THAT TONIGHT WE ARE NOT, UM, THE COUNCIL'S NOT DELIBERATING ON THE PROJECT. UM, AND I FEEL LIKE SOME OF THE ISSUES YOU'RE RATING RAISING ARE SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW, UM, CONSIDERATIONS THAT ARE NOT BEFORE THE COUNCIL TONIGHT. WHAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT'S BEFORE THE COUNCIL? TONIGHT'S NOT EVEN ACTUALLY THE PROJECT, IT'S THE ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS OF THE PROJECT, UM, IN THOSE CATEGORIES THAT ARE LISTED ON THE CHECKLIST THAT ARE LISTED IN THE, UM, IN THE STAFF REPORT AND THE MATERIALS BEFORE THE COUNCIL IN THE AGENDA PACKET. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I I, I JUST FOR CLARIFICATION'S SAKE AND FOR PURPOSES OF OUR, OF OUR FOCUS IN TERMS OF THE COUNCIL'S TASK TONIGHT AND THAT STAFF ARE TRYING TO FACILITATE, UM, I'M JUST TRYING TO PROVIDE A REMINDER AND IT MAY BE HELPFUL FOR STAFF TO TRY TO, UM, HELP, HELP DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THOSE THINGS THAT MAY BE SPAR CONSIDERATIONS OR PROJECT APPROVAL CONSIDERATIONS VERSUS THOSE THAT, UM, TRACK TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS AND THE CHECKLIST CATEGORIES. SO, OKAY. THANKS. I, I'LL MOVE ON TO, UM, VMT TYPE QUESTIONS, UH, VEHICLES MILES TRAVEL, UM, WHEN CONSIDERING THE VMT ALLOWING THE BRIDGE TO, WHICH MEANS A LOT MORE TRAVEL BY THE STUDENTS FROM LARGER POPULATION TO, TO THE SCHOOL, DOES, CAN THAT, DOES THAT IMPACT VMT BECAUSE YOU'RE HAVING A REDUCTION OF VMT FROM THE SITE SITE NEXT TO IT BECAUSE OF THE TRAVEL DISTANCES ARE NOW LOWER? YES, THAT'S, UH, CORRECT. THE BRIDGE DOES HAVE A MEASURABLE REDUCTION IN VMT. UH, IT IS, I BELIEVE, 0.06% OF, UH, UM, REDUCTION. SO, UH, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A, A MAJOR, UH, COMMUNITY AMENITY AND A MAJOR, UH, CONNECTION OF PEDESTRIAN AND, UM, AND MULTI-USE PATHWAY, UH, IT DOES, IT DOES NOT SUFFICIENTLY REDUCE THE, UM, THE VMT GENERATED BY THE PROJECT TO FALL BELOW SIGNIFICANCE. SO, UH, DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? OKAY, GOOD. THANK YOU. THAT'S BEING CONSIDERED. UM, AND THEN ON THE, UM, AGAIN, WITH THE VMT AND THE ROADS SAFETY AROUND THERE, THE, UM, UH, THAT WAS BEING BROUGHT UP, UM, CAN WE, THERE'S THREE THINGS THAT WE REALLY NEED TO CONSIDER IN ADDITION TO THE SITE ITSELF. I WAS WONDERING IF THESE ARE GOING TO BE INCLUDED AS FAR AS AN ANALYSIS. UM, ONE WOULD BE THAT CHANGING THE ELI ROAD TO MAYBE A SINGLE LANE IN BIKE LANES TO MAKE IT SAFER TO TRAVEL THAT ROAD, TO CHANGING THE CASA GRANDE TO A ROAD DIET AND MAKING, ADDING PARKING TO THE ENTIRE STRETCH ALONG THAT WAY SO THAT THEY COULD PARK ON THAT SIDE OF THE STREET. IS THAT BEING INCLUDED IN THE ALTERNATIVES? AND, UH, THIRDLY, IN, UH, THERE'S 18 TO 25 ACRES THAT, UH, WERE PRIOR PRIORLY UP FOR SALE THAT I WAS WITNESS ON, THAT I PARTICIPATED IN WHEN I WAS A TEACHER AT CASA GRANDE. UM, AND SO THAT SALE DID NOT GO THROUGH, BUT THAT SITE IS NOW DESIGNATED AS A COMMUNITY 15 MINUTE COMMUNITY POSSIBLE LOCATION WITH A LOT MORE BUILDINGS, WHICH COULD BE CONDOS, TOWNHOUSES, SHOPS, UM, A COMMUNITY CENTER OF SOME SORT. AND IN THE ANALYSIS OF VM TS AND THE, LIKE, IF THOSE WERE ACTUALLY ADDED IN, WOULD THAT CHANGE VMT ANALYSIS? UH, SO I, WE WOULD HAVE TO OBVIOUSLY LOOK AT ALL OF THAT, BUT, UM, FROM SOME OF THE WORK WE'VE DONE ON OTHER PROJECTS THAT INVOLVE, UH, BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS AND LANE STRIPING, UH, UNFORTUNATELY THE ANSWER IS TYPICALLY NO. THOSE ARE NOT ADEQUATE TO FALL BELOW LEVELS OF SIGNIFICANT, [02:00:01] AND THEIR COST IS VERY, VERY, VERY HIGH. SO, UM, TYPICALLY IT ENDS UP BEING, UM, INFEASIBLE AND STILL SIGNIFICANT AND UNAVOIDABLE. RIGHT. OKAY. SO NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 18 ACRES. UH, IF THAT WAS TURNED INTO A SHOPPING CENTER, UM, SO THE FOLKS WOULDN'T HAVE TO TRAVEL SO FAR TO GO TO THE GROCERY STORE AND THE, LIKE, WOULD THAT CHANGE THE VMT? UH, SO I'M UNDERSTANDING YOUR QUESTION IS, IF THIS PROJECT WERE TO, UH, SOMEHOW BE RELATED TO THE PROJECT THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THAT COULD BE A MIXED USE PROJECT, COULD THAT, UM, BE SOMETHING THAT REDUCES VMT? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING ME? YES. SO, UH, YES, MIXED USE PROJECTS ARE SOMETHING, IS, IS A COMPONENT THAT COULD REDUCE, UM, VMT THAT IS, UH, WELL KNOWN AND WELL STUDIED. UH, BUT THAT IS NOT THE CASE HERE. THESE ARE SEPARATE PROPERTIES, THEY'RE SEPARATE PROPERTY OWNERS. UM, IF AND WHEN THAT FUTURE UNDEVELOPED PARCEL WERE TO COME FORWARD ITSELF, IT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW. IT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO A VMT ANALYSIS. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, HYPOTHETICALLY, THEORETICALLY, UH, YES, A MIXED USE COULD, BUT THIS PROJECT SITE IS NOT ZONED THAT AND THERE IS NO, UM, RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THIS, THIS SITE AND, AND THAT OTHER SITE. OKAY, THANK YOU. NOW I'LL MOVE ON TO HYDROLOGY. UM, BEING THAT THE SITE HAS A LOT OF HARD SURFACES AND KNOWING, SHIFTING FROM A OPEN, BASICALLY GRASSLAND, UM, UH, SHEEP, UH, RE GRAZED, UH, WHICH VERY LOTS OF WATER PENETRATION CAN OCCUR THERE AND MOVING INTO MOSTLY HARDSCAPE AND THEN, UH, EVEN LANDSCAPE, MAYBE WEED CLOTHS, WHATEVER'S BEING PUT DOWN, UM, UH, THERE'S A FAIRLY LARGE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT'S GOING TO BE RUNNING OFF EVEN IF IT'S LANDING ON THE LANDSCAPE ITSELF. SO THE QUESTION IS, UM, IS THE POND IN THE BACK GONNA BE LARGE ENOUGH TO COMPENSATE AND ACTUALLY HOLD THREE INCH RAIN IN ONE DAY THAT FALLS ON THE SITE? UH, IF ALL 303 INCHES SATURATED SOIL COMPLETELY GOES TO THE POND, AS THE POND HAS CAPACITY TO HOLD THAT MUCH WATER, UH, WELL, I CAN, UH, ANSWER THE QUESTION OF DOES, IS THE SITE DESIGNED TO RETAIN WHAT IS REQUIRED? AND IT ABSOLUTELY IS. IT MEETS ALL OF THE CITY'S STANDARD REQUIREMENTS FOR STORM WATER DETENTION BASED ON THE FLOW PARAMETERS, BASED ON THE IMPERVIOUS AREAS INTRODUCED, AND THE, UH, DETENTION BASIN IS SIZED IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THAT, UH, FLOW PARAMETERS. OKAY, GOOD. AND IN THE, UH, BETWEEN NOW AND THE FINAL WILL ALL OF THE, UH, QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS OF THE, UH, OUR CONSTITUENTS, UM, BE ADDRESSED. SO THE, UH, STEP THAT'S INVOLVED WITH THE FINAL IS TO COLLATE AND ASSEMBLE ALL OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT WERE RECEIVED, AND WE IDENTIFY THOSE THAT RELATE TO ENVIRONMENTAL EFFECTS OR IMPACTS, AND THOSE ARE RESPONDED TO. UH, SO IT IS, AND ALL OF THEM ARE IDENTIFIED, AND IF THEY RELATE TO THE PROJECT, I'M FOR IT. I'M AGAINST IT. WE SAY, THIS IS NOT REGARDING AN ENVIRONMENTAL. UM, SO YES, EVERY, EVERY, UM, COMMENT AND, UH, COMMENT LETTER RAISED WILL BE INCLUDED IN PART OF IT. UM, BUT I WANNA BE REALLY CLEAR THAT IT IS NOT THE PLACE OF THE FINAL TO, UM, RESPOND OR, OR ADDRESS THINGS RELATED TO SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURE REVIEW OR THE PROJECT MERITS. SO IT'S, IT'S A FOCUS ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL EFFECTS. GOOD. THANK YOU. I'LL, I'LL PASS DOWN TO THE NEXT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER CATER THOMPSON. UM, I JUST WANNA TALK ABOUT THE 15%, UM, INCLUSIONARY. CAN THAT NUMBER BE CHANGED OR IS IT CONNECTED TO THE CITY THAT IS THE CITY'S, UH, REQUIREMENT FOR ONSITE INCLUSIONARY AND THAT IS WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED THERE MEETING THE CITY'S REQUIREMENT. IT'S IN OUR GENERAL PLAN, IN OUR HOUSING ELEMENT AND OUR ZONING ORDINANCE. SO IT, IT CAN'T BE CHANGED. WELL, IT CAN BE CHANGED, BUT IT'S A LEGISLATIVE ACT. WHAT'S, WHAT'S ON THE BOOKS RIGHT NOW IS WHAT, WHAT, UM, OLIVIA JUST DESCRIBED THE 15% REQUIREMENT. IT USED TO BE THAT WAS JUST IN OUR GENERAL PLAN, BUT NOW IT'S, NOW IT'S IMPLEMENTED IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND IT'S, THAT'S PART OF OUR, OUR LAND REGULATIONS. OKAY. WELL THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR RIGHT NOW. YEAH. I'D LIKE TO FOLLOW UP ON THE AFFORDABILITY OPTION AND, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW IS THIS GONNA BE ANALYZED IF, IF ANALYZED FOR MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN HERE? UM, WHAT WE'VE SEEN AT, UH, THE WASHINGTON COMMONS SITE WAS A 25 HOUSE MARKET RATE PROPOSAL, AND WHEN IT FELL OUTTA MARKET RATE HOUSING AND WENT TO A NONPROFIT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UM, THE DENSITY DOUBLED AND THERE'S 50 SOME ODD UNITS BEING PROPOSED FOR THAT. WOULD WE BE LOOKING AT THIS AS A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THESE MARKET RATE HOUSES GOING IN A POOL, OR WOULD WE SAY TURN IT OVER TO A NONPROFIT HOUSING WHO COULD BUILD SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, THREE STORIES THE WHOLE WAY ACROSS? WHAT, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU PROPOSE TO ANALYZE IF WE SAY INCLUDED? [02:05:02] UH, SO WE WOULD BE PROVIDING ADDITIONAL INFORMATION REGARDING THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THAT ALTERNATIVE. SO, UM, I CAN GET INTO IT A LITTLE BIT. THE, UM, THE REASON THAT IT CAME UP AS A ENVIRONMENTAL ALTERNATIVE THAT'S UNDER CA, THAT DOESN'T, UM, NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THAT ISN'T WHAT THE COUNSEL CAN AUTHORIZE FOR, FOR, UM, APPROVAL. THAT'S NOT WHAT IS WHAT WILL COME BEFORE YOU ULTIMATELY, UM, OR AT LEAST NOT, THAT'S NOT WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED AT THIS TIME. UM, THE, UH, THE AFFORDABLE, UM, SOME OF THE AFFORDABLE INFORMATION, UM, RELATED TO VMT WOULD BE, UH, TALK DOING A LITTLE BIT OF A DEEPER DIVE INTO WHAT THE OFFICE OF PLANNING AND RESEARCH HAS SUGGESTED WOULD SCREEN OUT FROM UH, VMT ANALYSIS. SO ON THE FACE OF IT, THE REASON THAT THAT ALTERNATIVE WAS LOOKED AT IN THE EIR IS BECAUSE, UH, THERE'S A, AN UNDERSTANDING THAT AFFORDABLE UNITS, UM, IF A HUNDRED PERCENT AFFORDABLE ARE NOT, DON'T RISE TO THAT SAME LEVEL OF VMT ANALYSIS, RIGHT? THERE'S A LESSER TRAVEL IMPACT TO THE, AND SO THAT'S WHY WE WERE DIRECTED THERE. BUT IN PRACTICE, AND THIS CONVERSATION CAME UP, IF YOU RECALL, AS WE WERE WORKING THROUGH THE VMT GUIDELINES, UM, THERE'S PLACES AND LOCATIONS WHERE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, GETS THE BENEFIT OF REALIZING THOSE VMT REDUCTIONS. AND SO THOSE TEND TO BE PLACES THAT ARE DOWNTOWN OR IN THE URBAN CORE OR NEXT TO, UH, MAJOR TRANSIT STOPS, WHICH THIS SITE IS NONE OF THOSE. UH, AND SO THE QUESTION REMAINS, I THINK TO BE ANSWERED OF IF THE AN ALL AFFORDABLE, UH, PROJECT HERE WOULD ACTUALLY REDUCE THE, UH, VMT TO LESS THAN SIGNIFICANT, UM, SO YOU WERE SAYING FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS, IT MIGHT NOT IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. IT MIGHT NOT. AND, UM, AND MY UNDERSTANDING, YEAH, SO I'LL LEAVE IT THERE AND I WOULD JUST, IF, UM, MY OTHER QUESTION ON THIS IS ABOUT FUNDING, UM, THE CITY DOESN'T PUT ANY FUNDING INTO INCLUSIONARY HOUSING, RIGHT? THAT'S ALL DEVELOPER FUNDED. SO THE, UM, THE ONSITE INCLUSIONARY IS DEVELOPER PROVIDED WE HAVE, UM, THERE ARE IN LIE FEES THAT ARE GATHERED WHEN THOSE ARE ACCEPTED BY THE COUNCIL. SO THAT'S A PROGRAM. THERE'S A, THERE'S A WAY FOR THEM TO DODGE THE INCLUSIONARY BY PAYING IT IF WE LEFT, WELL, WHEN, WHEN THE COUNCIL PERMITS IT, BUT THERE'S NO IN LIEU IF HE BUILDS THE INCLUSIONARY, RIGHT? IF YOU BUILD THE INCLUSIONARY, YOU'RE SATISFYING YOUR OBLIGATION THAT WAY. CITY'S KIND LIKE FUNDING IN, IN THIS. AND, UM, IN, IT'S VERY UNLIKELY THAT OTHERS HAVE MODERATE INCOME. IT'S A QUESTION FOR HOUSING, MODERATE INCOME HOUSING IS NOT GETTING FUNDING FROM TAX CREDITS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AT THE RATES WE ARE OFFER LOW INCOME. SO THE POTENTIAL FOR THE PROPERTY WOULD BE FOR AFFORDABLE WOULD BE TO BE AT A MORE AFFORDABLE, LOWER INCOME LEVEL. ARE THOSE THE THINGS THAT ARE GETTING ASSESSED WHEN YOU SAY DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE A R IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING, YOU KNOW, THE MAGNITUDE OF IT, THE A MI OF IT, YOU KNOW, THE VIABILITY OF IT EVEN? YEAH. SO THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WOULD, UM, TYPICALLY COME THROUGH THE EIR PROCESS. THAT MIGHT BE, UM, YOU KNOW, INFORMATION THAT THE COUNCIL DESIRES, BUT I WOULD, UM, UH, REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THIS IS A HOUSING ACCOUNTABILITY ACT PROJECT. AND, UM, THERE IS LIKELY, UH, LIMITATIONS IN THE PROJECT THAT YOU CAN, UM, MANDATE, UH, AS IT IS A COMPLETELY COMPLIANT GENERAL PLAN, UM, AND ZONING PROJECT THAT DOES ADVANCE HOUSING. SO, AND I'LL, I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. JUST ASK, WHAT DO YOU SEE AS THE UPSIDE OF INCLUDING ANY AFFORDABLE HOUSING CONVERSATION IN THE FINAL ER? WHAT'S THE UPSIDE OF INCLUDING ANYTHING? SO, UM, AS OLIVIA MENTIONED, THE REASON THIS CAME UP IS WE GOT THE QUESTION, I THINK, BUT FROM ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS ABOUT HOW AFFORDABILITY COULD POTENTIALLY IMPACT AND POSSIBLY REDUCE TO, UM, BELOW THE LEVEL OF SIGNIFICANCE, THE, UM, V MTS AND THUS THE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS. BUT, BUT WHAT OLI OLIVIA IS, AND, AND, AND I THINK HER ANSWER ANOTHER WAY OF STATING THE ANSWER IS WE DON'T REALLY HAVE CLEAR, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IN THE RECORD THAT THAT COULD HAPPEN. UM, AND THE VERY IMPORTANT REMINDER SHE'S PROVIDING, AGAIN, REMEMBERING THAT WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS OF THE PROJECTS BEFORE US, NOT OTHER PROJECTS OTHER THAN THE EXTENT TO WHICH SQL REQUIRES US TO DO ALTERNATIVE ANALYSIS. BUT THAT'S A DIFFERENT THING THAT'S NOT REQUIRING A CHANGE TO THE PROJECT. SO WHAT WE HAVE IS A CONFORMING PROJECT, MEANING IT, IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE APPLICABLE GENERAL PLAN, LAND USE DESIGNATION, THE APPLICABLE ZONING, UM, AND IT QUALIFIES FOR PROCESSING UNDER THE HOUSING ACCOUNTABILITY ACT. UM, IT ALSO [02:10:01] SATISFIES THE CITY'S REQUIRED INCLUSIONARY REQUIREMENTS SO THAT IT'S PROVIDING, WHAT THAT POLICY SAYS IS ITS SHARE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IT IS NOT PROPOSED, UM, TO HAVE MORE AFFORDABILITY THAN THAT. UM, BECAUSE IT'S A HOUSING ACCOUNTABILITY PROJECT, THAT MEANS WE ARE LIMITED IN THE NUMBER OF PROCESSING HEARINGS FOR OTHER THAN CA THAT IT RECEIVES. IT ALSO MEANS THAT WE'RE PROHIBITED FROM, FROM DISAPPROVING THE PROJECT, UM, ON, ON PAYING OF SOME VERY SIGNIFICANT PENALTIES. UM, 'CAUSE, 'CAUSE BASICALLY THE PROJECT IS, IS PROPOSING TO PROVIDE HOUSING WHERE OUR GENERAL PLAN AND SEWING SAY WE WANNA HAVE HOUSING PROVIDED. UM, AND IT'S PRO PROPOSING TO DO THAT AT THE DENSITY THAT WE PRESCRIBE FOR THAT. AND THE OTHER, UM, WRINKLE, UM, THAT IS NOT WELL ESTABLISHED YET UNDER THE MYRIAD OF NEW HOUSING LAWS THAT THE STATE HAS PROVIDED, INCLUDING THE HOUSING ACCOUNTABILITY ACT, IS THE INTERACTION BETWEEN CA, WHICH WE'RE FOCUSED ON TONIGHT, AND THE HOUSING ACCOUNTABILITY ACT, WHICH REALLY FOCUSES ON, UH, APPROVAL AND DISAPPROVAL OF PROJECTS IN THE SENSE OF, UM, THE COUNCIL'S ABILITY IF IT HAS THAT ABILITY TO DECLINE, TO APPROVE OVERRIDING CONSIDERATIONS. WHEREAS IN THIS CASE, THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT AND UNAVOIDABLE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS. AND, AND THAT'S ADDRESSED SOMEWHAT IN THE MEMO, UM, THAT WAS, UM, DISTRIBUTED UM, REGARDING THIS PROJECT, AND WE SHARED IT WITH THE COUNCIL TONIGHT. UM, THE COUNCIL MEMBER HEALY REQUEST, WE HAVE AVAILABLE, UM, BECAUSE, UM, IT APPEARS, UH, AND THERE'S NOT CLEAR CASE LAW ON THIS AND THERE'S HCD GUIDANCE, BUT, UM, THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY, UM, WE'VE NOT FOUND THAT TO NECESSARILY BE HELPFUL IN ALL CASES. UM, THAT EVEN THOUGH TRADITIONALLY APPROVING, UM, OVERRIDES HAS BEEN ONE OF THE MOST DISCRETIONARY CHOICES THAT A COUNCILS ARE CONSIDERED OF HAVING, UM, IT WOULD APPEAR THAT'S NO LONGER THE CASE FOR HOUSING ACCOUNTABILITY ACT PROJECTS. THAT THAT MAY IN FACT COUNT AS DISAPPROVAL. THAT'S PROHIBITED. SO HAAI I'M GETTING WE'RE THAT WE'RE IN A CORNER. UM, THE, UM, THE THING I'M WONDERING IS, IS THERE ANY, CONSIDER, IS THERE ANY UPSIDE TO TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING THERE? COULD WE SAY, HEY, AT 20% AFFORDABLE HOUSING, YOU DO GET TO, YOU HIT YOUR VMT NUMBER AND IT'S NOT AN OVERRIDING CONSIDERATION. IS THAT HOW YOU PROPOSED? I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY DATA THAT WOULD DO THAT, AND I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF HAVE MORE, BUT THAT'S THE STUDY THAT WOULD BE REQUESTED. BUT I, BUT THEN IT WOULDN'T BE A VIABLE PROJECT ANYWAY, SO. WELL, AND, AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS YOU HEARD STAFF SAYING AND THE MATERIALS SUGGEST IS THAT, UM, THAT'S A PRETTY FACT SPECIFIC CONSIDERATION. AND JUST TO FASTLY SAY THAT, UM, AFFORDABLE PROJECTS GENERATE LESS VMT AND, AND THE MORE AFFORDABILITY, THE LESS VMTI DON'T THINK WE CAN STATE THAT. AND, AND FOR SOME OF THE REASONS THAT OLIVIA MENTIONED IN TERMS OF LOCATION, LET, LET PASS TO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER . SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO WAVE TOO LONG, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU'D SEEN ME. UM, YEAH, I, OH NO, I'M, I'M, I'M, UM, I'M HEARING MY BRAIN IS TRANSLATING SOMETHING, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SAID THAT, THAT IT IS, WHAT I'M HEARING IS IT'S INCONCEIVABLE TO, UH, GET ANY BENEFIT FROM CONSIDERING A HUNDRED PERCENT AFFORDABLE PROJECT. AND I'D JUST LIKE TO HAVE SOMEONE EITHER SAY THAT'S THE CASE OR, OR TELL ME WHY THAT ISN'T. WELL, CAN YOU MEAN FROM THE STANDPOINT OF VEHICLE MILLS TRAVELED AND GREENHOUSE GASES OR, OR OTHER BENEFITS? EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING WE'VE DISCUSSED FROM, FROM THE FACT THAT, THAT ALL AFFORDABLE UNITS AT THAT PLACE IN OUR TOWN ARE NOT GONNA HAVE A SIGNIFICANT EFFECT ON THE VMT. THAT'S WHAT I'VE HEARD FOLKS SAY IT CERTAIN, UH, AS WELL AS THE FACT THAT YOU SAY WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE THE, UH, THE WHEREWITHAL TO SAY, UH, TO THIS DEVELOPER, UH, YOU KNOW, MAKE THIS PROJECT ALL AFFORDABLE. WELL, WELL, THAT'S THE THING I'D LIKE TO FOCUS ON COUNCIL MEMBER OSA. KAY. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S STILL THE CASE THAT APPLICANTS GET TO DECIDE CONSISTENT WITH OUR REGULATIONS OR CHANGES THAT THEY COULD SEEK TO OUR REGULATIONS, WHAT THEY WANT TO PROPOSE. AND WE DO THE ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS AGAIN, ALSO INCLUDING, UM, UM, ALTERNATIVES ANALYSIS, UM, UNDER CE A, BUT, BUT WHAT WE'RE ANALYZING IS THE PROJECT THAT'S PROPOSED AND WHAT STAFF ARE TELLING YOU IS, UM, THERE'S NOT A MECHANISM WE GO WITH THAT AS AN ANSWER. YOU GOOD? YEAH. TO REQUIRE A DIFFERENT PROPOSAL. I'M GONNA FLIP IT BACK OVER HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER OR CATER THOMPSON. I JUST WANNA KNOW, I'M GOING BACK TO THE BRIDGE AND I'M LOOKING AT THE MAP [02:15:01] AND DO WE HAVE A BETTER, UM, MAP OF THE TRAIL ON THE SOUTH SIDE? UH, SO THE GRAPHIC THAT WE SHOWED EARLIER THAT I AM TRYING TO PULL UP IS, UM, I SEE IT THE BEST THAT WE HAVE AT THE MOMENT, BUT HAPPY TO, UM, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE ABOUT THE BRIDGE LOCATION OR WIDTH OR WHAT YOU'RE, WELL, WHERE THE TRAIL ENDS, YOU KNOW, WHERE WHAT, WHAT ARE THE INTERCONNECTIVITIES? THE ONE BEFORE IT, THE CIRCULATION. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. AND I DON'T THINK I'M SHARING, SO LET ME WORKING ON IT. OKAY. MM-HMM, . HERE WE GO. OKAY. SHARE SCREEN. YEAH. OKAY. SO THIS IS, UM, PULLING UP THE CIRCULATION PLAN AGAIN. UH, SO YOU CAN SEE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CREEK, IT, UH, TERMINATES AT THE END OF THE EXISTING, UH, WALKWAY OF SPYGLASS ROAD. UH, AND IT WOULD TIE IN TO, UH, THAT LOCATION THERE. AND THEN ON THE PROJECT SIDE, IT'S AT THE SOUTHERN PORTION ADJACENT TO THE, UM, MCKENNA SUBDIVISION. SO IT ENDS AT THE MCKENNA SUBDIVISION. I'M LOOKING AT THE BLUE LINE. YEAH. SO THIS IS WHERE THE FIVE IS ACROSS THE ADOBE CREEK. IT'S THE PINK LINE. SO THE BLUE IS THE, UM, THE CLASS TWO EXISTING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF ADOBE CREEK FROM THE PROJECT SITE. AND THEN THE, UH, PINK, SOLID PINK LINE IS WHAT WOULD BE PROPOSED BY THE PROJECT IN INCLUDING THE, UM, THAT ONSITE, UH, LOOP AROUND WHAT WOULD BE THE FUTURE DETENTION AND THE DE THE DESIGNATED REMAINDER TYING INTO THE, UM, THE SIDEWALKS ON THE PROJECT SITE. AND THEN, UH, CONNECT TO, UH, THE EXISTING TRAIL ON THE MCKENNA SUBDIVISION TO THE SOUTH. AND THAT WOULD ALL OCCUR ON THIS PROPERTIES, UM, UH, LIMITS AND THE ADJACENT ADOBE CREEK, UH, FRONTAGE. I UNDERSTAND THAT. I'M JUST ASKING FOR THE BLUE LINE. DOES IT END WHERE ON THE, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, OR DOES IT GO FURTHER? OKAY. YEAH, I THINK THAT SEGMENT OF THE TRAIL, UM, IS, UH, DOES EXTEND, DOES IT CONNECT TO FRAUS ROAD? I MEAN, WHERE'S THE CONNECTIONS? YEAH, SO WE COULD PULL UP THE, UM, UH, GENERAL PLAN. WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THE, UM, BIKE AND PLAN PLAN, THE LARGER, UM, MAP OF IT. BUT IT IS A PLANNED, UH, IMPROVEMENT ALONG THAT SIDE OF THE CREEK. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT, YEAH, IF WE COULD. OKAY. SO I, YOU KNOW, WE LIVE THERE. MAYBE YOU SHOULD COME TAKE OFF ALL THESE QUESTIONS. WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY. YEAH, WE CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION. YOU'LL, YOU'LL GET YOUR TURN. YOU'LL GET YOUR TURN, BUT YOU'RE OUT OF ORDER RIGHT NOW. SO JUST THIS IS THE TIME FOR THE COUNCIL QUESTIONS. THANKS. I, I THINK, UM, THE VALUE OF HAVING COUNCIL ASK QUESTIONS FIRST IS SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS WHAT GAPS THEY SHOULD FILL AND WHERE THEY DO WANT TO COMMENT BY SHOWING YOU A LITTLE OF OUR MIND HERE, HELPS YOU MAKE BETTER INFORMED COMMENTS. AND SO WITH THAT, UM, I, UM, TAKE IT AWAY FROM THE QUESTION OF THE COUNCIL AND OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. I'M SORRY. OKAY. I MISSED, I'M SORRY, I MISSED MR. HEALEY DIDN'T WAVE AS, UH, BIG AS, UH, MR. POKAY AND I APOLOGIZE. SO I, I JUST HAD TWO, TWO, UH, COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. ONE IS, UM, ON THIS, UH, POSSIBLE ROAD DIET ISSUE ON CASA GRANDE ROAD. UM, I WAS WONDERING IF THAT WOULD, UM, THEN SUBJECT CASA GRANDE ROAD TO THE NEW, UM, UH, FORTHCOMING 15 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT. UM, AND, UH, WHICH IT'S EXEMPT FROM NOW BECAUSE IT'S FOUR LANES AND WE'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO DO TWO LANE ROADS NEAR SCHOOLS, IS MY RECOLLECTION. UH, AND WHAT THAT WOULD DO FOR VMT. SO THAT'S ONE. AND THEN SECONDLY, WITH RESPECT TO THE BRIDGE ISSUE, UH, THE ALTERNATIVE LOCATION OR THE NO BRIDGE ALTERNATIVE, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT BRIDGE IS REALLY PRIMARILY THERE FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PEOPLE IN THE SPYGLASS NEIGHBORHOOD. AND IF THE FEEDBACK WE GET IS, IF, IF THE FEEDBACK WE GET FROM THOSE FOLKS IS THANKS, BUT NO THANKS. UM, THEN, YOU KNOW, ONE, ONE THING, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OUTSIDE THE BOX, BUT ONE, ONE POSSIBLE PLACE TO TO, TO LOOK WOULD, WOULD BE AS AN ALTERNATIVE LOCATION, WE WOULD BE ABOUT THREE MILES FURTHER UPSTREAM BECAUSE WE DO NEED, UH, A BRIDGE OVER THE ADOBE CREEK CANYON IN LAFFERTY RANCH. UM, AND THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT IF THE DEVELOPER WAS OPEN TO IT, WE COULD PARTIALLY OR FULLY FUND WITH THE MONEY THAT WOULD HAVE TO SPEND ON THIS THING. SO I JUST THROW THAT IDEA OUT THERE. THANKS. UH, VICE MAYOR SCH SHRIMPS, UM, JUST A QUESTION AGAIN, BACK TO THE PATHS. UM, UH, TALKING ABOUT, UM, PRIVATE VERSUS PUBLIC OWNERSHIP AND, UH, MAINTENANCE OF THESE PATHS [02:20:01] ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE, THE CREEK, THE BLUE LINE THAT, THAT I THINK BELIEVE IS A PUBLIC PATH THAT I THINK THE CITY MAINTAINS. UM, BUT THE PINK PATHS HERE ARE, WOULD THEY STILL BE, UH, PRIVATE PATHS THAT HAVE TO BE MAINTAINED BY THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS, AND WOULD THEY HAVE PUBLIC EASEMENT OR CITY EASEMENT TO ALL OF THAT? AND, UH, BEYOND THOSE PATHS, SINCE THEY GO INTO THE SIDEWALKS AND THE STREETS, WHICH ARE PRIVATE STREETS, WOULD WE HAVE EASEMENTS TO THE, UH, STREET FOR, FOR, FOR BICYCLISTS TO GO INTO THE STREETS AND HAVE ACCESS FOR THE SIDEWALKS FOR THE PEDESTRIANS? WOULD THEY ALSO HAVE EASEMENTS IN THERE? AND IS THERE ANY CONSIDERATIONS FOR, UM, UM, UH, CONCERNS THAT, UH, THINGS MIGHT BE HAPPENING ALONG THE WAY? AND, AND, UM, IF, IF THAT'S AN ISSUE FOR ANY ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT FOR, FOR THIS REPORT? UH, YEAH. SO THE MAINTENANCE IS, UH, ABSOLUTELY COVERED AS PART OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW. THE SPECIFICS ARE THE, UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE, UM, APPLICANT WOULD BE ABLE TO CONSTRUCT AND BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTENANCE, AND THERE WOULD BE A DEDICATED, UM, UH, PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT, AS IS THE CASE FOR, UM, UH, THESE MULTI-USE PATHS THAT ARE LOCATED ON, UH, PRIVATE, PRIVATE PROPERTY. OKAY. SO IT'S INCLUDED, IF ANYBODY BOUGHT IT IN THIS PROPERTY, THEY WOULD KNOW THAT, THAT IT HAS FULL PUBLIC ACCESS TO THE TRAILS, STREETS AND SIDEWALKS, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE PRIVATE. UH, YES. THE EXACT MECHANISM OF THAT IS LIKELY THROUGH THE, UH, CCNRS. OKAY. IS THERE ANY MECHANISMS FOR RESTRICTING, UM, UH, THE FOLKS THAT ARE THERE IS, AGAIN, FOR GOING BACK TO VMT, UH, IS THERE ANY RESTRICTIONS THAT COULD BE PUT IN PLACE FOR NUMBER OF VEHICLES? UM, 'CAUSE WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT VMT, WHAT IT, SINCE THERE ARE ONE CAR GARAGES, IS IT ASSUMED THAT VM T'S BASED ON ONE CAR PER FAMILY PER UNIT, OR IS IT BASED ON THE AVERAGE FOR THE WHOLE POPULATION AND BEING APPLIED? IN WHICH CASE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO TO THREE CARS AVERAGE PER UNIT. UM, AND, AND HOW THAT APPLIES TO THE ACTUAL PROPERTY, IF THAT'S BEING USED FOR THE BMT THEN, UH, WITHOUT HAVING ENOUGH PARKING SPACES FOR THE TOTAL NUMBER OF CARS BEING CONSIDERED, IS THAT PART OF THE PACKAGE OF, OF, OF THIS REPORT? UH, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. THE, UH, VMT ANALYSIS, UH, EXPLAINS THE, UM, METHODOLOGY. IT IS, UH, AS WE TALKED ABOUT, BASED ON THE CITYWIDE, UH, PER CAPITA AND THE AVERAGE, UH, THAT WAS SET BY THE, UH, CITY COUNCIL WHEN THE VMT GUIDELINES WERE ADOPTED IN THIS, UM, REPORT, UH, REFLECTS THAT. OKAY. SO THE VM T'S BASED ON HOW MANY VEHICLES PER HOUSEHOLD ON AVERAGE, WHAT IS THAT ACTUAL NUMBER? IT'S BASED ON THE PER CAPITA OF EMT. IS IT, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT 1.5 CARS, 2.5 CARS, 2.0 CARS PER PER HOUSEHOLD? WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THEN? WHAT'S THE ACTUAL NUMBER? UM, WELL, I'D HAVE TO LOOK BACK AT THAT, UH, THAT DATA TO TELL YOU THAT PRECISE NUMBER OF WHAT THE CITYWIDE, UH, ASSUMED I WOULD'VE, I, UH, IT WOULD'VE BEEN THE OVERALL AVERAGE OF THE POPULATION. I WOULD SUSPECT THE CITYWIDE NUMBER IS HIGHER THAN THE TWO POSSIBLE. THE INSIDE THE GARAGE AND IN AND IN ON THE CEMENT SIDEWALK. THERE'S PROBABLY A MAXIMUM OF TWO PARKING SPACES PER HOUSEHOLD WITH A FEW EXTRAS ON THE SIDE FOR VISITORS, THE LIKE, BUT THOSE WOULD BE NEEDED FOR VISITORS. BUT FOR THE TWO THAT ARE IN THEIR HOUSEHOLDS, I'M, I BELIEVE IT'S GONNA BE BELOW THE CITY AVERAGE. AND A VMT IS BASED ON THE CITY AVERAGE. UH, AND THE ACTUAL PARKING SPACES AVAILABLE ARE LESS THAN THE CITY AVERAGE. COULD VMT BE ADJUSTED TO, UH, IF THERE WAS A REQUIREMENT THAT THERE WOULD BE A MAXIMUM NUMBER OF TWO CARS? ONE IN THE GARAGE, ONE IN THE DRIVEWAY, OKAY. FOR EVERY SINGLE HOUSE. SO LET'S GIVE HER A CHANCE TO ANSWER. CAN WE CHANGE THE VMT METHODOLOGY AT THIS POINT RIGHT NOW? UH, SO THE, UH, VMT UH, ANALYSIS DOES TAKE INTO ACCOUNT, AND I CAN PULL THAT UP, UM, UH, UM, THE NUMBER OF PARKING, UH, UH, SPACES TO, UM, THE, THE FEWER, THE LESS LIKELY IT IS FOR CARS. SO WE CAN, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT. I DON'T HAVE THAT ON THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I CAN, I CAN LOOK INTO THAT. THE OTHER QUESTION PART OF THAT IS, IS THERE ALREADY IN THE WORKS HO OA REQUIREMENT FOR A MAXIMUM NUMBER OF CARS AVAILABLE PER UNIT BECAUSE OF THE PARKING SPACES LIMITATIONS? UH, NO. THERE'S NO HOA REQUIREMENT. THIS PROJECT HAS NOT BEEN, UH, APPROVED AND NO HOA HAS BEEN FORMED AND NO, UM, SPAR OR ANY ENTITLEMENT HAS BEEN ISSUED. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER CA. UM, NOW, UM, THANK YOU. UM, ON THE THIRD PAGE OF OUR MEMO, IT SAYS, AT COUNCIL'S DIRECTION, THE FINAL EIR COULD FURTHER INVESTIGATE ALTERNATIVE BRIDGE LOCATIONS, OR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION COULD BE PROVIDED REGARDING ADDITIONAL INVESTIGATION, A BRIDGE LOCATION SELECTION. AND, UM, I AM ALL FOR FINDING, UM, A [02:25:01] SOLUTION FOR THAT SPYGLASS NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I THINK SOME OF THE HIGH SCHOOL KIDS ARE, HAVE CUT THE FENCE AT THE GROVE APARTMENTS TO GET THROUGH. SO IF WE DO BETTER INFRASTRUCTURE ON ELI, THEN THEY COULD WALK, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT FARTHER. THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO USE A BRIDGE IF WE ELIMINATE IT, BUT MAYBE WE COULD USE THE, THE COST OF THE BRIDGE. I LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER HEALY'S IDEA OF USING IT FOR LAVERTY, BUT ALSO THE, THE PARK. I'M ALWAYS WEARING MY, UH, MY CHEERLEADER FOR THE PARKS AND CASARO PARK AND NEEDS SOME UPGRADING. AND THE, THOSE RESIDENTS, THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS GOING TO, UM, ALSO BE IMPACTED BY THE EXTRA TRAFFIC THAT THIS SUBDIVISION'S GOING TO CREATE. SO MAYBE WE COULD DO SOME IMPACT FEES FOR COST OF DERO AND ELIMINATE THE BRIDGE LEFTOVER MONEY CAN GO TO COUNCIL MEMBER HEALEY'S, UH, OTHER BRIDGE IDEA. SO, EXCUSE ME. SO, UM, AGAIN, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE STAY FOCUSED ON TONIGHT'S EXERCISE, WHICH IS CONSIDERATION OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS OF THE PROJECT THAT'S BEEN THEN, UM, SUBMITTED THE APPLICATION THAT'S BEEN SUBMITTED, UM, OFFSITE IMPROVEMENTS, UM, A WE TYPICALLY CANNOT REQUIRE THEM, UM, B UM, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN CE A IMPACTS, UM, THAT NEED TO BE CONSIDERED. 'CAUSE REMEMBER, TWO PART OF WHAT HAPPENS WITH CE QA IS WE CONSIDERED THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS OF THE MITIGATION MEASURES. SO, UM, AND CERTAINLY, UM, THERE'S A WHOLE, UM, SQL HORNET'S NEST RELATED TO POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS, UM, UM, THAT, THAT MIGHT BE CONSIDERED, UM, ON THE LAFFERTY PROPERTY. UM, WHICH THERE'S, I I CAN'T CONCEIVE HOW WE COULD CREATE A NEXUS FOR THAT. UM, IT HAS ITS OWN SPECIAL SE CHALLENGES AND CONSTRAINTS. SO, UM, SO I, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S, IT'S MOST HELPFUL TO FOCUS OUR DISCUSSION ON THE IMPACTS OF THE PROJECT THAT'S BEFORE THE COUNCIL, THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS OF THE PROJECT. THAT'S BEFORE THE COUNCIL RECOGNIZING THAT THIS IS NOT A PROJECT APPROVAL HEARING. IT IS NOT A SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW HEARING. AND THAT'S TYPICALLY WHERE CIRCULATION IS, IS REALLY ADDRESSED. UM, SO, UM, AND, AND ALSO, I, I, YOU KNOW, UM, WHAT I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE HEARING YOU LOUD AND CLEARLY WE SHOULD FOCUS ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES AT HAND OF THIS. OTHER THINGS WILL COME UP LATER, RIGHT? AND OTHER PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, WILL NEED THEIR OWN SQA ANALYSIS. SO THANKS. SURE. ONE LAST, UH, QUESTION FROM ME. THE BRIDGE, IS IT IN THE, UH, PROPOSAL BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER THINKS OF IT AS SUCH A AMENITY TO THEIR, UM, PROJECT OR BECAUSE IT'S IN CITY PLANS FOR CITY ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION EFFORTS? UH, SO, EXCUSE ME. SO THE ANSWER TO THAT, MAYOR, IS, UM, ACTUALLY NEITHER OF THOSE, THE, UM, WHEN THE CASA GRANDE MCKENNA SUBDIVISION CAME FORWARD FOR ENTITLEMENTS, THERE WAS A REQUEST FROM THE COUNCIL AT THAT TIME THAT ANY ADDITIONAL ACTIVITY THAT MAY COME FORWARD IN THE FUTURE INCLUDE A BRIDGE. AND SO IT WAS THE DIRECTION OF THE COUNCIL AT THAT TIME TO, TO, UH, REQUEST THAT. AND, UM, WHEN THE STAFF RECEIVED THAT APPLICATION, UH, WE, WE HONORED THAT REQUEST AND WE HAVE, UM, ANALYZED AND CONSIDERED, AND THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO, UM, TO BUILD THE BRIDGE AS, AS PROPOSED AS HAS BEEN PRESENTED. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NOW, PUBLIC COMMENT, , HAVE WE RECEIVED, UH, CARDS AND LETTERS? WE HAVE . IMAGINE WE'VE RECEIVED 24, UH, COMMENTS AND THOSE ARE POSTED TO THE WEBSITE. AND IF WE RECEIVED SOME AFTER A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME, ABOUT FOUR 30 TODAY, WE'LL POST THEM TOMORROW. AND, UH, ANYTHING WE RECEIVE TODAY IN WRITING, WE'LL POST TOMORROW AS WELL. AND I CAN RES, UH, READ THE, UH, MESSAGING. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING IN PERSON SHOULD BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARDS TO THE CLERK'S DESK IF THEY HAVE NOT ALREADY DONE SO. SPEAKERS ARE REMINDED TO BE RESPECTFUL IN THEIR COMMENTS AND THAT THIS MEETING IS BEING TRANSLATED. PLEASE PAUSE BETWEEN SENTENCES FOR TRANSLATION AND THE TIMER BEHIND THE D WILL BE RESET FOR EACH SPEAKER. THANK YOU. [02:30:06] WE HAVE, UH, UH, 15, UH, SPEAKER CARDS TONIGHT. AND SO, UH, DOING MY MATH, I, UM, WE HAD, UH, ONE MINUTE EARLIER, BUT UM, ON THIS ITEM, WHEN THERE'S MORE LATITUDE, I'D LIKE TO EXTEND IT UP TO TWO MINUTES FOR EACH SPEAKER. AND I'M ASKING THE CLERK TO SET THE, UH, CALENDAR UP TO CLOCK, UP TO TWO MINUTES PER. AND OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS EDWARD OS, AND OUR SECOND SPEAKER WOULD BE, MARK PERLE. IS EDWARD IN THE HOUSE? IT WAS ONE OF THE SENIOR HOUSING FOLKS WHO PROBABLY HAD TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, MARK PERLE TO BE FOLLOWED BY ELAINE. CAN WE INCREASE TIME IF PEOPLE ARE NO LONGER HERE? UH, NO. THE, UH, THE METHOD FOR SEATING TIME, UH, ALLOWS THAT SOMEONE IN THE ROOM CAN ALLOW SOME CONCEDE THEIR TIME, BUT THEY HAVE TO BE IN THE ROOM ACCORDING TO RULES HERE. SO I SOMETHING IN GENERAL, YOU CAN GIVE EVERYONE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME. YOU KNOW, THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT. WE ARE NOW AT LESS THAN 15 SPEAKERS. AND SO I'D LIKE TO ASK THE CLERK TO DRIVE THE TIME UP TO THREE MINUTES PER, PER SPEAKER. UM, JIM JOHNSON, CAROL, UH, JACK BYRNE. THERE WE GO. TO BE FOLLOWED BY MARIA DAY. UH, DETO. HI, GOOD EVENING. UH, I'M A RESIDENT. UH, I LIVE, WALK, BIKE, AND DRIVE IN THIS AREA HEAVILY 'CAUSE I LIVE IN THE CASA GRANDE SUBDIVISION. UH, I'M VERY THANKFUL FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AND GIVE PEOPLE WHO ARE RESIDENTS WITH REAL CLOSE INSIGHT, UH, A LITTLE EXTRA INFORMATION THAT CITY STAFF IN THEIR VOLUMOUS RESEARCH AND INVESTIGATION COULDN'T POSSIBLY COVER. UH, THE BRIDGE OPTION AS PROPOSED. JUST UNDERSTAND THAT PATH DIRECTS TRAFFIC FROM THE, UH, RESIDENT RESIDENTIAL AREAS TO THE HIGH SCHOOL THROUGH CASA GRANDE SUBDIVISION, NOT THROUGH THE NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT NEW, THAT EXISTING CASA GRANDE SUBDIVISION. THE PATHWAY THAT'S BEEN PROPOSED TO BE USED AS AN EXTENSION IS LESS THAN THREE FEET WIDE. UH, I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TELL YOU IT'S ABOUT THE WIDTH OF ONE OF THE TWO DOORS THAT YOU USE TO ENTER, ENTER, TO ENTER THIS, THIS CHAMBER. UH, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GONNA BE A PEDESTRIAN AND HAVE A BIKE WALKING PAST YOU ON A THREE FOOT PATH. IF YOU WANNA LOOK AT OPTIONS TO EXPAND THAT PATH, YOU'RE GONNA BE MOVING TREES, YOU'RE GONNA BE ALTERING SLOPES IN A BASIN. THAT WILL BE ANOTHER QUA, YOU KNOW, INVESTIGATION THAT GOES EVERYWHERE. SO THIS IS AN ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE DEFINITELY TO BE CONSIDERED. UH, NOW, UH, THAT, THAT PATH WAS BUILT AS A CIRCLE AROUND THE BASIN, DOESN'T REALLY GO ANYWHERE ELSE. AND I THINK IT'S NOT A PRUDENT USE OF, OF A BRIDGE PROPOSAL TO REDIRECT TRAFFIC UP PATHWAYS AND SIDEWALKS NOT BUILT TO HANDLE HUNDREDS OF OF STUDENTS THAT ARE, UH, UH, THAT, THAT ARE CHANGING. THAT'S, THAT'S ISSUE NUMBER ONE. UH, ISSUE NUMBER TWO, I WOULD JUST LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER THE STAFF IS JUST FOLLOWING DIRECTIONS THAT THE COUNCIL HAS MADE ON PARKING DENSITY AND ON AND ON OTHER FEATURES. THE PARKING DENSITY IN THIS NEW AREA IS LESS THAN THE DENSITY THAT'S IN CASA GRANDE SUBDIVISION. I RECOMMEND IF BLUE ZONES ARE REALLY IMPORTANT TO THE CITY, WHICH I THINK THEY ARE AND SHOULD BE, THAT THE CITY ALSO DIRECT THE STAFF TO ASK QUESTIONS LIKE, HOW IS THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OR A FUTURE DEVELOPMENT GOING TO AFFECT BLUE ZONES? 'CAUSE YOU HAVE AN EXPERIMENT RIGHT HERE. YOU PUT RESTRICTED PARKING IN CASA GRANDE SUBDIVISION, OKAY? YOU CAN'T ENFORCE HOW MANY CARS PEOPLE HAVE. WHERE DO THOSE PEOPLE PARK? THEY PARK OVER IN DEL LARO. YOU'RE CREATING NEIGHBOR VERSUS NEIGHBOR CONTROVERSY, WHICH IS GONNA BE AN EVENTUAL BLUE ZONE PROBLEM. AND THE DENSITY IN THIS NEW AREA IS EVEN LESS THAN THAN OURS. SO DON'T THINK JUST BECAUSE YOU'VE SAID LESS PARKING, IT'S GONNA HAPPEN. YOU CREATE PROBLEMS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, MARIA DETO TO BE FOLLOWED BY RICK PARKER. THANK YOU EVERYONE. I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL, UM, IMPACT OF THE BRIDGE. WE HAVE, UH, QUITE A BIT OF WILDLIFE THAT [02:35:01] LIVES IN THAT CREEK. WE HAVE A PACK OF, OR A FAMILY OF FOXES THAT LIVE THERE. WE HAVE DEER THAT RUN THROUGH THERE. I SEE THEM IN THE EVENING WHEN I'M OUT IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE ON SPY SPYGLASS. AND YOU TALKED ABOUT THE PATHWAY GOING FROM MCKENNA NEW HOUSING PROJECT, WHICH HAS NO PARKING WILL. THE PATHWAY WILL ALLOW PEOPLE TO HAVE AN OVERFLOW PARKING ON SPYGLASS ROAD THAT IS GOING TO IMPACT OUR YOUNG CHILDREN WHO ARE OUT THERE PLAYING AND WHO HAVE THEIR BICYCLES AND ALL THEIR TOYS IN THAT AREA. IT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE FEASIBLE. THE, WE HAVE TWO ENTRANCES FOR THAT PATHWAY, THAT MULTI-USE PATHWAY FROM CASA GRANDE. STUDENTS WHO LIVE IN THE, UM, GROVE AND THEY WALK THROUGH THERE, PEOPLE WALK THEIR DOGS THROUGH THERE. UH, ANOTHER BRIDGE IS REALLY NOT NECESSARY, ESPECIALLY FOR SECURITY. UH, WE PAY FOR THAT. THAT EASEMENT YOU TALKED ABOUT THAT. THAT'S IN MY TAXES. I PAY RIGHT NOW. THERE IS NO SPRINKLERS THAT ARE ON THERE. THEY HAVE TURNED THAT OFF. I PAY FOR THAT. I HAVE NO WATER. I HAVE BROWN GRASS IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE. I HAD TO CALL THREE TIMES TO HAVE THE GRASS, UH, MODE. AND IF I'M GONNA HAVE A BRIDGE, WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT GARBAGE, LIKE YOU SPOKE ABOUT EARLIER. WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT, UM, STUDENTS HANGING OUT THERE, UM, WHEN THEY'RE NOT IN CLASSES, WHICH THEY COME HOME IN THE AFTERNOONS AT 12 O'CLOCK WHEN I'M THERE. I SEE THEM WALKING THROUGH THERE. THEY DO LEAVE THEIR GARBAGE. SOME OF THE STUDENTS DO PICK IT UP, BUT NOT ALL OF THEM. RECEPTACLES ARE HELPFUL, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY'RE NECESSARY. BUT MY MOST SECURE IS THERE IS NO PARKING. THERE IS NO PARKING IN MCKENNA, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE PARKING. BUT THIS 59 HOMES THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THERE WITH ONE GARAGE PARKING IN THE DRIVEWAY, THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY EXTRA PARKING. IT'S GOING TO BE ON SPY GLASS ROAD. AND THAT'S WHERE THE OVERFLOW WITH THE BRIDGE. AND THEY'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO WALK THROUGH THEIR HOMES, THROUGH OUR BRIDGE IF YOU PROPOSE AND APPROVE THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, UH, RICK PARKER TO BE FOLLOWED BY DEBORAH ROGERS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WANNA FIRST APOLOGIZE FOR ANY OUTBREAKS AND THINGS. I'M NORMALLY AN INCREDIBLY COLLABORATIVE PERSON TRYING TO GIVE DEFERENCE TO OTHERS. UM, BUT IT'S REALLY JUST, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOLKS FOR US ON THIS SIDE. YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THAT PLEASE TONIGHT. UM, WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT WE CAN ONLY IMPACT OR INPUT THE EIR AND YOUR ATTORNEY. AND IT WAS THE SAME AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, HAVE SAID THAT DUE TO STATE REQUIREMENTS, YOU GUYS HAVE TO DO THE PROJECT. SO WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT WHETHER THE PROJECT IS GOOD. NOW, WE, WHEN WE DO SOMEWHERE DOWN THE ROAD, IT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE YOUR OWN ATTORNEY HAS SAID TWICE NOW THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER UNLESS THERE'S SOME UNIQUE SITUATION, RIGHT? SO WE ARE SITTING HERE GOING, THIS HAS BEEN TWO YEARS IN THE MAKING, AND THE PEOPLE ARE NOT IN THE EIR, THE IMPACT ON THE PEOPLE AND THE PEOPLE'S INPUT TO IT. IF YOU ASK EVERY PERSON ON SPY GLASS, WE CAN BRING, WE'LL GET A, A, A WRITTEN DOCUMENT FOR YOU TO A PERSON. IF WE FIND ONE OUT OF 50 THAT IS IN FAVOR OF THE BRIDGE, FOR EXAMPLE, I WOULD BE, UH, WE'VE GONE OUT AND WALKED, TALKED TO FOLKS, WE'RE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, WE'RE HERE. A LOT OF THEM HAVE LEFT BECAUSE IT'S SO LATE. WE HAVE NO OPPORTUNITY, FOLKS, THIS IS A BIG DEAL FOR PETALUMA. WE NEED TO CHANGE THIS PROCESS. OKAY? YOU SEE HOW THAT IS SO FRUSTRATING FOR US. UM, ALSO, THE SECOND THING I'D LIKE TO DO IS THE UNIQUENESS OF THE LOCATION. UM, I REALLY DON'T, NOT POINTING ANY FINGERS, I HAVE RESPECT FOR EVERY ONE OF YOU, BUT THERE'S ABSOLUTE FALSE THINGS BEING SPOKEN AS TRUE IN THE EIR, THE WAY INTO THE CREEK, ACROSS THE CREEK AS BEING THE LEAST, YOU KNOW, IMPACTFUL. IT'S OVER 150 FEET FROM SIDE TO SIDE THROUGH TREES. THERE ARE OTHER PLACES WHERE IT'S LIKE FIVE FEET OF TREES. SO YOU JUST NEED TO BE LOOKING. I MEAN, IT'S FACTUALLY FALSE. COME ON OUT, TAKE A LOOK. AND I'VE LIVED ON THE CREEK FOR 38 YEARS. WE'VE SEEN THE TRASH AND ENVIRONMENTAL. YOU PUT A BRIDGE OVER IT. LOOK AT THE OTHER BRIDGES. THE ON ELI, ON SARTORY, GRAFFITI TRASH, RIGHT? IF YOU INVITE A HUNDRED TO 200 HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS TO WALK RIGHT DOWN, MCKENNA, GO OVER A BRIDGE. I DON'T, DON'T THROW ME OUT, BUT LITERALLY HOP RIGHT OVER THE CREEK, THERE'LL BE LITTER. AND BY THE WAY, DOWN HERE FOR OUR AUDIENCE AT HOME, UH, THE MICROPHONE IS VERY USEFUL. SORRY, I'M JUST TRYING TO HELP YOU UNDERSTAND. BUT SOMETHING THAT YOU DID NOT EVEN PUT IN THE IR THERE IS A 500 UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX BEHIND YOU. EVERY ONE OF THOSE STUDENTS WILL COME STRAIGHT DOWN HERE, AND YOU ARE PUTTING A BRIDGE RIGHT THROUGH YOUR MEETING WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO DO A MEETING, EXCEPT IT'LL LAST THREE YEARS. AND THEN THEY GET THERE. AND IT'S AN EIGHT FOOT METAL FENCE THAT THE APARTMENT COMPLEX. I'VE TALKED TO THE SITE MANAGER OVER THE YEARS, DOES NOT WANT NOR ALLOW [02:40:01] ANYONE, NO KIDS, NO NOTHING. AND THEY'VE HOPPED THE FENCE OVER THE, ABOUT OVER THE LAST TWO DECADES, THERE IS A METAL RETAINER. THERE IS NO X, NO SHORTER PLAY FRONT WAY FOR THEM TO GET TO THOSE APARTMENTS. SO, VERY FUNDAMENTAL THANK YOU FOR YOUR INPUT IS NOT ACTUALLY DEBRA ROGERS IS OUR NEXT SPEAKER. AND, UH, GORDON WONG TO FOLLOW. THANK YOU. UM, I'M DEBRA ROGERS AND I ACTUALLY LIVE ON SPYGLASS ROAD. THERE'S ANOTHER ROAD IN THAT COMP, IN THAT DEVELOPMENT. IT'S CALLED SILVERADO. LAST NIGHT I WALKED TO EVERY SINGLE HOME. I SPOKE TO EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT ANSWERED THE DOOR. NOT ONE PERSON WANTS THIS BRIDGE. NOT ONE PERSON WANTS MORE, UM, PARKING, PEOPLE PARKING THERE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, WE, I FOUND OUT THAT THERE WAS A HOME WHERE BECAUSE HOMELESS DO LIVE IN THE CREEK, THERE ARE HOMELESS. A HOMELESS MAN CAME UP INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND WALKED RIGHT INTO SOMEBODY'S HOME WITH CHILDREN IN THE HOME. THE MAN HAD TO COME OUT WITH HIS UNDERWEAR WITH A GOLF CLUB AND JUST CHASE THEM OUT. SO WHEN YOU BUILD A BRIDGE, YOU BUILD SHELTER FOR HOMELESS PEOPLE THAT WILL BRING MORE HOMELESS TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THAT'S NOT SAFE FOR OUR CHILDREN. ALSO, I HAVE WITNESSED THE WILDLIFE IN THE CREEK, AND THIS WOULD BE A DEVASTATION TO THE WILDLIFE. I'VE WATCHED THE, THE, UH, FOX WITH THE BABIES AND DEER AND OTHERS. SO I DON'T FEEL LIKE THIS IS A GOOD IDEA. I CALL THIS THE BRIDGE TO NOWHERE, BECAUSE THE ENTIRE, AND YOU CAN COME WALK DOWN, I WALK DOWN THAT, ALL THAT PATH ALL THE TIME. THAT PATH GOES FROM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO SARTORE. IT'S SERENE, IT'S QUIET, IT'S GOT WILDLIFE AND IT BACKS UP THERE. THE FENCES ALL ALONG THE OTHER SIDE ARE BA PEOPLE'S BACKYARDS, EXCEPT FOR ONE AREA WHERE YOU COULD BREAK THE EIGHT FOOT WALL OR FENCE. AND THAT GOES INTO THE APARTMENT COMPLEX. I WATCH EVERY DAY PEOPLE WALK FROM THE APARTMENT COMPLEX INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO GET THEIR CARS THAT ARE PARKED ON OUR STREETS. I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PARKING FOR OUR OWN CARS. AND SO NOW WE'RE GONNA CREATE A HIGHER PARKING PROBLEM IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND SO I PROPOSE THAT YOU TAKE THIS BRIDGE SOMEWHERE INTO YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS, NOT OURS. AND I ALSO PROPOSE THAT YOU, IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU GIVE US IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD RESTRICTED PARKING FOR PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE, WE'VE HAD OUR CARS BROKEN INTO PEOPLE TRYING TO STEAL OUR CARS, OUR THINGS IN OUR CARS. THEY ALL COME FROM THE APARTMENT. WE BACK UP TO ELI, WHICH IS A BUSY ROAD. WE BACK UP TO THE APARTMENT COMPLEX, WE BACK UP TO THE CREEK, AND NOW WE'RE GONNA BACK UP TO ALL OF THIS AS WELL. WE'RE THE HIGHLY IMPACTED NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE DON'T REALLY WANT TO IMPACT THE ENVIRONMENT OF OUR ENVIRONMENT RIGHT NOW WITH THIS ADDITIONAL. SO, UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY, EXCEPT I WOULD LIKE YOU, I INVITE YOU TO COME WALK THE PATH AND SEE WHAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY UP AGAINST, WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY UP AGAINST. BECAUSE A LOT OF THINGS ON PAPER LOOK GREAT, BUT WHEN YOU GO THERE, IN REALITY, IT'S NOT GREAT. AND HAVING MORE HOMELESS SHELTERS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOT A GOOD IDEA. THANKS. THANK YOU. GORDON WONG TO BE FOLLOWED BY AMY STEAD. UH, MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, MY NAME IS GORDON WONG. I'VE BEEN A 30 YEAR RESIDENT AT SPYGLASS. MY CONCERN IS ABOUT THE BRIDGE. UM, WITH THE BRIDGE. I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING THE 100 YEAR YEAR PLAN. 'CAUSE THE 14 FIRST 15 YEARS WE WERE THERE, THE WATER COMES FAST AND DEEP. AND IT'S ONLY ABOUT HERE TO HERE TO THE BANKS. OKAY? SO HOPEFULLY YOU GOT ENOUGH CATCH BASIN IN THERE. UM, AND ALSO I'M WORRIED ABOUT, THAT'S ACTUALLY WITHOUT A BRIDGE THERE. WHAT DOES A BRIDGE SERVE AS A CHOKE POINT FOR WATER? BECAUSE OF A CHOKE POINT. IT'LL BACK RIGHT UP AT THE PY GLASS, AND HOPEFULLY THAT'S TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT. UH, MY OTHER CONCERN IS THAT YOU'RE KIND OF UNDOING 40 YEARS OF UNITED ANGLERS WORK. YOU KNOW THAT BRIDGE? I SEE THE, THE FISH COME UP AND THEY STRUGGLE. OKAY. WHEN THE WATER'S LOW, YOU, YOU FEEL FOR 'EM. THEY, THEY CAN'T GET UP THERE, OKAY? AND THEY HAVE TO GO UP TO THE MOUNTAIN. SO THE LAST THING IS, I'VE HEARD THAT THIS BRIDGE IS FUNDED BY HOA. I MEAN, THAT'S JUST KIND OF, THAT'S ASKING FOR TROUBLE 25 YEARS DOWN THE LINE WHEN THE BRIDGING MAINTENANCE. HAVE YOU EVER BEEN IN AN HOA, I MEAN, TRYING TO GET A FICKLE H AND A FUND MAINTENANCE IS PULLING TEETH. SO THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS WITHOUT THE BRIDGE. YEAH. BUT, UH, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL I HAVE TO SAY. BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS AMY STEAD. SHOULD BE FOLLOWED BY CALLUM WEEKS. UM, I AM, UM, MCKENNA RESIDENT. UM, I ALSO HAVE EMAILED ALL OF YOU AND YOU HAVE MY PHONE NUMBER, SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO REACH OUT TO ME 'CAUSE I HAVE SO MUCH [02:45:01] THAT I CANNOT SPEAK IN THREE MINUTES. UM, BUT IN REGARDS TO SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE REGARDING THE MCKENNA NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE PATHWAY, IT ABSOLUTELY WAS NOT DESIGNED FOR THIS LEVEL OF TRAFFIC. IT WAS DESIGNED FOR THE 36 UNITS, UM, WITHIN THAT HOA DEVELOPMENT. OH, THE MAIN WALKWAY THAT THEY HIGH SCHOOL KIDS WILL USE IS ACTUALLY NOT PART OF THE WALKWAY FOR MCKENNA. THEY WILL BE, UM, AND I'VE SEEN THEM BECAUSE THEY COME OVER AT LUNCHTIME SOMETIMES TO HANG OUT AT OUR PICNIC TABLES. IT'S A, UM, IT'S A GATE THAT THEY CLIMB OVER AND THEN THEY WALK DOWN THE PRIVATE DRIVEWAY, WHICH IS NOT PART OF THE ACTUAL WALKWAY. THE WALKWAYS ON THE OTHER SIDE, THE KIDS WOULD NEVER USE THE ACTUAL WALKWAY. THEY WOULD CUT THROUGH THE PRIVATE DRIVEWAY OF THE MCKENNA HOMEOWNERS WHO LIVE ON THAT DRIVEWAY. THE, UM, MATERIAL OF THE, UM, WALKWAY ITSELF, EXCUSE ME, ITSELF, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, LESS THAN FOUR FEET WIDE, WHICH ABSOLUTELY CANNOT TAKE A PE UM, A PEDESTRIAN AND A BICYCLIST IS MADE OUT OF A, A DG MATERIAL. AND IT'S REALLY NOT GOOD AT ALL IN THE RAINY SEASON BECAUSE YOU STEP INTO IT AND YOU SINK AND IT'S MUDDY. SO MOST PEOPLE DON'T EVEN WALK THE PATHWAY IN THE RAINY SEASON. WHEN YOU DO GET A COUPLE OF BIKE BICYCLISTS THAT COME THROUGH, THEY LEAVE RUTS IN IT. WE STILL HAVE BICY RUTS FROM LAST WINTER, AND NOW THE PATHWAY IS UNEVEN. AND WHO'S PAYING FOR THAT? IT'S THE MCKENNA HOMEOWNERS. THAT'S WHO WE'RE PAYING FOR IT. THIS IS, UM, WE HAVE THE, WE HAVE TO OFFER IT TO THE PUBLIC, BUT WE'RE PAYING FOR IT. AND I THINK THAT'S SO UNFAIR FOR THE CITY TO REQUIRE, UM, US TO HAVE A PUBLIC PASS THROUGH AT THE EXPENSE OF THE HOMEOWNERS. IT'S GONNA INCLUDE IN, WE HAVE TO DO A HUGE MAJOR OVERHAUL TO JUST TAKE INTO MIND. WE NOW HAVE TO, UM, MAKE THIS AVAILABLE TO HUNDREDS OF STUDENTS EVERY DAY. AND THE FIVE TO SEVEN LARGE COMMUNITIES AROUND IT. IT WAS, IT'S NOT DESIGNED FOR SAFETY IN MIND. I, IN THE LAST MEETING, THEY MENTIONED MAYBE WE CAN ADD LIGHTS. WELL, THE LIGHTS WILL AFFECT THE WILDLIFE. AND THERE IS THAT FAMILY OF FIVE FOX WITH MULTIPLE DEER THAT'S COMING THROUGH. I HAVE VIDEOS, ONE FROM THIS MORNING ALONE. IT'S RATHER VERY CUTE OF THE FOX, BUT THEY'RE ALL OVER THE AREA WHERE THE PROPOSED BRIDGE IS. I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF A, ANY BRIDGE AT ALL. I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF CONNECTING THE PATHWAYS AT ALL. KEEP THE PATHWAYS SEPARATED SO THE INDIVIDUALS WHO LIVE IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS CAN STILL EXPERIENCE THE WILDLIFE, BUT WITHOUT IT ACTUALLY INTERFERING WITH THE WILDLIFE. UM, I ALSO WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE SHADOW EFFECT BRIEFLY BECAUSE IT IS IN THE A HUNDRED YEAR FLOODPLAIN. AND IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT, UM, THAT ELEVATES THE ACTUAL LEVEL OF WHERE THE HOMES AND THE BUILDINGS WILL BE BUILT BY FOUR TO FIVE FEET, WHICH MEANS IT'S GONNA FEEL LIKE A FOUR FOOT BUILDING AND THAT IS GONNA HAVE A HUGE EFFECT. IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME, GO TO THE CORNER OF DEL ORO AND DEL RANCHO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, CAL CALLUM, WEEKS TO BE FOLLOWED BY FRANK QUINT. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. UH, CALLUM WEEKS, UH, POLICY DIRECTOR, GENERATION HOUSING. UM, I JUST WANNA BEGIN IN BY SAYING THAT WE ARE GENERALLY VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS PROJECT. OBVIOUSLY, MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING IS SOMETHING THAT THIS STATE BADLY NEEDS AND CERTAINLY SONOMA COUNTY. SO IT'S WONDERFUL TO SEE DEVELOPERS BRINGING THIS, THIS OPPORTUNITY FORWARD TO OUR COMMUNITIES. UM, ACTUALLY ON THE FRONT OF, ON THE, THE, THE SHADING FRONT OF THE, THE SHADOW EFFECT FRONT. I MEAN, I, I HAVE, AND I MEAN THIS WITH RESPECT, I HAVE VERY TALL ORNAMENTAL BAMBOO RIGHT NEXT TO ME. EASILY. FOUR STORIES IS NOT TALLER. AND THEN A TWO STORY BUILDING ON THE OTHER SIDE, JUST SAYING, MY VEGETABLES, MY PLANTS GROW JUST FINE. WE GET PLENTY OF SUN. I DON'T THINK IT'S REALLY A, A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE HERE. I MEAN, MAYBE IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, EIGHT PLUS STORIES, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WORTH CONSIDERING. BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S REALLY WORTH, UM, FURTHER DRAGGING THIS OUT AND, AND INVESTING MORE DOLLARS INTO THIS PROCESS WHEN THE SIGNIFICANCE OF IT IS, IS I WOULD ASSUME FAIRLY MINOR. UM, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S MY OWN SUBJECTIVE OPINION. BUT ON THE HOUSING FRONT, UH, THIS PROJECT REALLY, UH, IT'S GENERAL PLAN COMPLIANT AS THAT NOTED AND CERTAINLY WOULD APPROVE, UH, OR CERTAINLY WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO APPROVE AND MOVE THIS FORWARD. AND THEN WE CAN HAMMER OUT THE DETAILS AND, YOU KNOW, THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE PROJECT DESIGN AND WHATNOT LATER. SO WITH THAT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. REALLY APPRECIATE ALL YOUR TIME. THANK YOU FRANK. QUINT TO BE FOLLOWED BY SARAH. GOOD LIGHTLY. UH, GOOD EVENING. SO, UH, IN GENERAL, WELL, I'VE STATED I'M IN, I'M IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT. I THINK PETALUMA, UH, DEFINITELY NEEDS HOUSING. UH, AND, AND THIS, THIS HELPS. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD, UH, THE RESIDENTS LIVING, UH, ADJACENT TO THE GROVE APARTMENT. SO WE HAVE, UH, SPY SPYGLASS NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE CALL RANCH ARROW DRIVE. I'VE SPOKEN TO FOLKS ON BOTH [02:50:01] THOSE DRIVES, UH, BOTH THOSE ROADS. AND THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT PROBLEMS CONFLICT WITH THE GROVE APARTMENTS. UH, WHEN RESIDENTS HAVE VOICED THEIR CONCERNS, THEY'VE ONLY BEEN TURNED AWAY BY THE GROVE APARTMENTS. SO, SO, UH, UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE LOCATION OF THIS BRIDGE, IT'S RIGHT AT THE END OF SPYGLASS, LITERALLY GOING RIGHT UP IN THE RICK'S BACKYARD. AND IT'S AT THE, AT THE END OF THE CUL-DE-SAC, WHERE IF YOU LOOK ON, UH, YOU KNOW, ON, ON GOOGLE, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE FENCE HAS BEEN BROKEN, WHERE FOLKS HAVE COME THROUGH THERE. AND SO I THINK, UM, UH, AT THE VERY LEAST, IF THE, IF THE BRIDGE IS TO BE BUILT, IT SHOULD BE MOVED AWAY FROM THE HOMES. FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE RIGHT NEXT TO THE HOMES. UH, I LIVE ABOUT 90 FEET FROM THE ADOBE CREEK TRAIL, UH, DOWN BY SARTORY. AND THAT TRAIL IS IN REALLY ROUGH SHAPE. VERY FEW PEOPLE USE IT TODAY. UM, SO, UH, BUILDING A BRIDGE TO KNOW WHERE I ACTUALLY HAVE IT RIGHT HERE IN MY NOTES, , UM, I, I GET THAT THE CITY HAS A LONG-TERM PLAN TO DEVELOP THE TRAILS. UM, BUT THAT TRAIL TODAY ISN'T USED. AND IF YOU, IF YOU COME ACROSS WHERE THE BRIDGE IS AND YOU TURN RIGHT, UH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S AN INFORMAL TRAIL. IT'S BARELY USED. IT'S BEEN FENCED OFF FOR YEARS. AND, UH, AND I REALLY DO BELIEVE IT'S BUILDING A BRIDGE TO NOWHERE IF THE TRAIL STAYS IN ITS CURRENT CONDITION. SO, UM, IF THE CITY WERE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE TRAIL, UH, OR SORRY, WITH THE BRIDGE, UM, REALLY THE ONLY AMENITY THAT THAT'S GONNA PROVIDE IS IF WE, UM, PUT THE WORK IN AND IMPROVE THE TRAIL AND MAKE IT A REAL TRAIL. UH, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, UH, ALSO I WOULD, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST, UH, ECHO THE COMMENTS. CASA GRANDE ROAD, REALLY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PUTTING A MEDIUM DENSITY, UH, FACILITY IN RIGHT NEXT TO A HIGH DENSITY SENIOR LIVING FACILITY. UH, THERE'S ALREADY TRAFFIC CONCERNS. CASA GRANDE IN ITS CURRENT STATE ISN'T SAFE. UH, AND SO IF WE PUT THIS DENSITY ON THAT ROAD, WE REALLY NEED TO MAKE SURE THE CASA GRANDE GETS REBUILT WITH, UH, COMPLETE STREET STANDARDS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, SARAH, GO TO LIGHTLY TO BE FOLLOWED BY NICOLA FRY. THANK YOU FOR THE TIME TO SPEAK. UM, I DO WANNA ALSO MENTION THAT I'M NOT, NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, UM, BUT I DO HAVE SOME MAJOR CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT IS PROPOSED. UM, EXCUSE ME, WHILE I TAKE MY GLASSES OFF SO I CAN READ. UM, MY MAJOR CONCERNS. I, I WANNA MENTION THAT I DO LIVE ON DEL ORO, SO, UM, AND I AM ON THE CORNER OF DEL ORO IN DEL RANCHO. SO I AM VERY MUCH IMPACTED BY THE INCREASE OF TRAFFIC AND, UM, BOTH FOOT AND CAR. UM, THAT HAS HAPPENED SINCE THE CASA GRANDE SLASH MCKENNA DEVELOPMENT HAS GONE IN. UM, AND AS WELL AS THE HOUSE IS DIRECTLY BEHIND ME BECAUSE MY BACKYARD BACKS UP TO IT. UM, FIRST IT'S MY VIEW THAT THE PROPOSED BRIDGE SHOULD BE SCRAPPED COMPLETELY, UM, AS ECHOED BY MANY OTHERS. ALTHOUGH I AM A PROPONENT OF IMPROVED CREEK PATH ACCESS, THE BRIDGE IN THIS PLAN IS NOT PRACTICAL OR HELPFUL TO NEIGHBORHOOD RE NEIGHBORHOOD RELATIONS. THE CURRENT PATH AROUND MCKENNA NEIGHBORHOOD RETENTION POND IS MADE OF A DECOMPOSED GRANITE PRODUCT THAT RENDERS IT UNUSABLE DURING WET MONTHS. AS, UM, AMY MENTIONED, THIS AREA IS MAINTAINED BY THE HOA AND NOT THE CITY, WHICH I'M SURE WOULD BE THE CASE FOR CREEKWOOD. UM, AND THE INCREASED TRAFFIC WOULD ONLY FURTHER ACCELERATE THE DISREPAIR OF THE PATH. I'M ACTUALLY KIND OF DISAPPOINTED THAT ANY OF YOU HAD TO ASK WHERE THE CREEK BEGAN, BEGAN, AND ENDED, UM, AND WHERE THE PATH BEGAN AND ENDED. BECAUSE I THINK IF YOU ARE VOTING ON SOMETHING, YOU SHOULD COME OUT AND LOOK AT IT. YOU SHOULD WALK THE PATH, YOU SHOULD WALK AROUND BEHIND MCKENNA AND SEE WHERE THOSE PATHS, UM, ALREADY GO. SO IF YOU HAVE NOT ALREADY DONE THAT, PLEASE DO. AND THERE ARE MANY NEIGHBORS WHO WOULD LOVE TO WALK THAT WITH YOU. UM, SECOND, I WOULD, SORRY, I'M GONNA TAKE A BREATH HERE FOR A SECOND 'CAUSE I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS. SECOND, I WOULD ASK THE COUNCIL TO ENSURE STUDIES ON FLOOD MITIGATIONS BE THOROUGH BEFORE THE PLAN IS APPROVED. WITH THE MCKENNA DEVELOPMENT, THE LOTS WERE TO BE JUST A FOOT HIGHER IN ELEVATION THAN THE DEL ORO NEIGHBORS. BUT AFTER THE LAND PREP STARTED, A CHANGE TO A FOREFOOT INCREASE IN ELEVATION WAS QUICKLY APPROVED BY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WITHOUT COMMITTEE REVIEW AND WITH NO NOTICE TO THE NEIGHBORS UNTIL WE RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THE BUILDING BUILDER NOTIFYING US THAT THEY WERE PLANNING TO [02:55:01] COME AND DEMOLISH OUR FENCE FOR A RETAINING WALL. THIS WAS EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTING AND DISHEARTENING THAT ALL OF THAT PLANNING AND THE PROPOSAL OF WHAT, UM, WAS GOING THROUGH IS NOT ACTUALLY WHAT HAPPENED. AND THEN THIRD, UM, I JUST WANNA REALLY QUICKLY MENTION THAT, UM, THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ON CASA GRANDE IS VERY CONCERNING. AS A PARENT WITH SMALL CHILDREN IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WHO GO TO LARO, WE DO NOT FEEL SAFE LETTING OUR CHILDREN RIDE THEIR BIKES TO SCHOOL ON THEIR OWN BECAUSE OF THE NUMEROUS CLOSE CALLS WE'VE HAD AS A FAMILY. THANK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NICOLA FRY IS OUR LAST SPEAKER. UH, NO, AND ALSO MY BAD, I'M SORRY, , I JUST, I'M HAVING A HORRIBLE NIGHT. I REALLY APOLOGIZE. . AND, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE, UH, FLASH. WELL, UH, AFTER THAT, THE SAME PERSON, UM, AS OLIVIA SAID, THE FACT THAT THERE'S A GOING TO BE OR IS PROPOSED, A BRIDGE HAS BEEN AT THE REQUEST OF THE CITY COUNCIL, WHICH MEANS THAT YOU ARE ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT OR MODIFYING IT. YOU GOT ONE PROPOSAL FROM THE DEVELOPER ON WHERE HE THINKS THE BRIDGE SHOULD BE. PERHAPS THERE ARE ALTERNATIVES OR THE NO BRIDGE ALTERNATIVE. I WENT OUT AND WALKED IT AFTER MY PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. I NOW KNOW THAT I NEED TO DO THOSE AHEAD OF TIME, NOT AFTERWARDS. I'M LEARNING. UM, AND THERE IS SOME REAL CONCERN, UM, EVEN FROM MY PERSPECTIVE OF LOOKING AT WHERE THAT BRIDGE IS PLANNED TO GO. UM, BUT IT'S, YOU, YOU ASKED FOR THE BRIDGE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OUR, UH, LAST SPEAKER IS FLASH WELL. AND AGAIN, MY APOLOGIES. IT'S ALL GOOD. , SORRY ABOUT MY DELAY GETTING UP HERE. I KNOW YOUR TIME'S PRECIOUS. UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UH, FOR THE TIME, NO BRIDGE ALTERNATIVE. OKAY. WE BOUGHT OUR HOME IN A CUL-DE-SAC FOR THE PRIVACY AND SECURITY IT PROVIDES. AND NOW THAT IS BEING JEOPARDIZED BY PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIVE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, MAKING DECISIONS THAT WILL AFFECT US, NOT THEM. YOU. TO BE CLEAR, WE ARE AGAINST HAVING A BRIDGE INSTALLED OVER THE CREEK. THE BRIDGE WILL ALLOW EASIER ENTRY INTO OUR CUL-DE-SAC FROM CASA GRANDE ROAD. IT WILL INVITE STUDENTS FROM CASA GRANDE HIGH FROM CASA GRANDE HIGH SCHOOL TO USE THE BRIDGE TO ACCESS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, THE CREEK AREA, AND POTENTIALLY HOPPING FENCES TO THE APARTMENT COMPLEX. BEFORE, DURING, AND AFTER SCHOOL, WE EXPERIENCED INCREASED STUDENT ACTIVITY IN OUR AREA. WHEN THERE, THERE WAS A GATE AT THE BACK ACCESS TO THE APARTMENT COMPLEX. MANY YEARS AGO, KIDS USED THE CREEK AREA TO SMOKE, DRINK, AND HANG OUT. THERE ARE ALSO TWO FIRES BEHIND OUR HOME. DURING THAT TIME, SINCE THE ACCESS WAS FULLY CLOSED AND REDUCED ACTIVITY IS, IS GREATLY NOTED. AND WITH THE BRIDGE, I FEAR IT WILL INCREASE AGAIN AND PUT SAFETY AND SECURITY AT RISK. WE HAVE, WE, WE'VE HAD, UH, KIDS HOP FENCES AND CROSS THROUGH OUR BACKYARD TO GET TO THE APARTMENTS WITHOUT THE ADDED EASE OF A BRIDGE. SO IMAGINE IF A BRIDGE WAS THERE. QUICK INTERJECTION. THIS IS NOT A CRUSADE AGAINST HIGH SCHOOL KIDS, OKAY? BUT THE REALITY IS THAT WE ARE DEALING WITH BEHAVIORS AND THERE ARE SOME BEHAVIORS THAT ARE CONSISTENT THAT WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT. IN ADDITION TO THE SAFETY, OUR CREEK IS HOME TO MANY ANIMALS, INCLUDING DEER AND A FAMILY OF ADORABLE BOXES. A BRIDGE AND A LOSS OF TREES AND SHRUBS TO MAKE ROOM FOR IT. IT WILL GREATLY IMPACT THE HOMES AND SECURITY OF THESE VALUED ANIMALS. 30 SECONDS. LASTLY, THE LOSS OF TREES WILL AFFECT OUR PRIVACY AND THE VIEW OF, AND THE VIEWS THAT WE ENJOY. AS [03:00:01] WELL AS THE TREES BLOCKING OUT THE UNWANTED VIEWS OF INCREASED CONSTRUCTION AND HOMES, BUILDINGS, WE ENJOY THE PRIVACY OF OUR CREEK NATURE PROVIDES. IN FACT, IT IS A MAIN REASON WE PURCHASED OUR HOME IN THE LOCATION AND, AND WE'VE BEEN AT THIS LOCATION FOR OVER 25 YEARS. YOU DON'T LIVE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. PLEASE LISTEN TO US. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND, UH, THAT CLOSES PUBLIC, UH, COMMENT FOR THE EVENING, UH, BRINGS IT BACK UP TO COUNCIL. AND, UM, I DO WANT TO, UH, THANK EVERYBODY WHO STAYED TONIGHT. UM, IT FEELS LATE, IT'S NOT AS LATE AS WE OFTEN GO. YOU'RE LUCKY YOU GOT IN THIS EARLY, BUT, UM, BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE THE EFFORT IT TAKES AND, UH, HAVING YOUR, UH, PERSONAL STORIES, UH, TOLD. AND I REALIZED THAT, UH, SOME OF THE LANDSCAPING OUT THERE, UM, UM, MAY NEED A LIFT. THERE'S, IF THERE'S A LANDSCAPE ASSESSMENT DISTRICT, IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THE CITY HAS, UH, IDENTIFIED AS A PRIORITY TO WORK ON THE LANDSCAPE. UH, ASSESSMENT DISTRICTS HAVE BEEN KIND OF NEGLECTED OVER DROUGHT PERIOD AND LOW FUNDING PERIOD. AND SO THEY'RE GETTING ATTENTION, EXPECT TO HEAR SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE ABOUT THAT ISSUE. BUT BRINGING IT BACK TO OTHER ISSUES ON THIS PARTICULAR, AND PARTICULARLY TRYING TO FOCUS ON THE EIR, I'D LIKE TO INVITE, UH, COUNCILWOMAN PETER THOMPSON TO START FOR US. UM, I HEARD WHAT EVERYBODY WAS SAYING AND I WAS ON THE SITE, BUT I WILL GO BACK 'CAUSE I REALLY DO WANNA SEE, UM, WHERE THE CONNECTION IS. BUT I, I, THE APARTMENTS ARE VERY CLOSE, YOU KNOW, FROM WHEN YOU TAKE A WALK DOWN THAT PATH AND I'M REALLY TORN. UM, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS I FEEL I'D LIKE TO KEEP THE BRIDGE IN AS FAR AS THE EIR PROCESS, BUT I'M REALLY QUESTIONING, UM, IF WE SHOULD DO THAT IN THE FINAL, YOU KNOW, REALLY MAKE A A REALLY, I NEED TO MAKE A REALLY SOUND DECISION. I WANT TO GO ONTO THE SITE AND I'M REALLY BEING HONEST ABOUT THIS. UM, SO I WAS THINKING JACK BYRNE MIGHT BE ABLE TO , I CAN CONNECT WITH HIM WHEN I'M ON MY BIKE AND WE CAN MEET AND SOME OTHER PEOPLE. UM, ANOTHER THING IS I THINK PARKING PERMITS IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WHETHER A BRIDGE GOES IN OR A BRIDGE DOESN'T GO IN, I THINK IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT BECAUSE THIS IS A PROBLEM AND KIND OF ALL AROUND THE CITY, BUT YOU'RE KIND OF IN A REALLY TIGHT QUARTERS, UM, YOU KNOW, ON SPY GLASS. UM, AND AS FAR AS, UM, THE MAINTENANCE OF THE BRIDGE AND STUFF, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO KEEP THAT OPEN AS FAR AS IS IT REALLY THE CITY OR WOULD IT BE THE HOMEOWNERS? THE HOA, UM, OTHER COMMENTS? I'M ACTUALLY, I'M FOR THE PROJECT 'CAUSE I THINK IT'S A GOOD PROJECT, BUT I'M SERIOUSLY ON THE FENCE WITH THE, WITH THE BRIDGE. BUT I FEEL LIKE IF, IF AT THIS POINT I SAY NO BRIDGE, THEN I CAN'T REALLY LOOK AND ANALYZE IT BETTER. MAYBE A DIFFERENT SPOT FOR IT OR MAYBE NO BRIDGE. YES. AND I'M REALLY OPEN TO THAT. I'M NOT, UM, I'M NOT SAYING ONE THING AND REALLY THINKING THAT I'M GONNA DO SOMETHING ELSE . SO THAT'S KIND OF FOR ME. UM, I FEEL LIKE THE BRIDGE IS DEFINITELY AN ISSUE. I DO KNOW WHERE IT GOES BY RICK'S HOUSE. IT IS REALLY CLOSE. UM, AND I, I AM SENSITIVE TO NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE IMPACTED. WE'RE ALL IMPACTED IN ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, SO I AM SENSITIVE TO THAT. AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THE BRIDGE IN, CONTINUE WITH THE PROCESS, BUT REALLY GO OUT THERE AND ANALYZE IT AND BE REALLY HONEST WITH YOU THAT I'M NOT, UM, GOING TO, YOU KNOW, SAY THIS AND THEN PUT THE BRIDGE IN AT THE END. I MEAN, IT'S, I'M JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I REALLY DO WANNA DO SOME MORE ANALYSIS AND I DID GO TO THE SITE, I KNOW WHERE THE PATHWAY IS, UM, BUT I DIDN'T GO THROUGH THE WHOLE PATHWAY AND HOW EVERYTHING INTERCONNECTS AND I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT TOO. SO IF WE, I CAN CONNECT WITH PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. AND THAT'S ALL I'M GONNA SAY FOR NOW. UH, I THINK THE STAFF IS, UM, ALSO ASKING US TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF IDENTITY TO THE, UH, ISSUES OF THE NO BRIDGE OPTION, THE, UH, RIPARIAN COMMENTS AND, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND THEN I THINK ALSO THE CASA GRANDE, BUT PERHAPS, UH, CASA GRANDE IS NOT IN THE ENVI, THE, THE ROAD, UH, DIET PAVING NOT IN THE IR. SO THOSE COMMENTS ARE NOT REALLY IEIR RELATED, BUT, UM, SO, UH, UM, HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO MAKE OUR COMMENTS THAT HIT THE THREE MAIN POINTS. AND COUNCIL MEMBER [03:05:01] HEALEY, DID YOU WANT TO, UH, WEIGH IN NEXT? SURE. COULD YOU REMIND ME WHAT THOSE POINTS WERE AGAIN? , THE, UH, BRIDGE, NO BRIDGE OPTION TO, FOR, TO STUDY. AND, AND I'M ASSUMING THE NO BRIDGE IS AN OPTION. SO BRIDGE IS STILL IN EAR AND WE ADD CONSIDERING THE NO BRIDGE, IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING? OR ARE WE SAYING JUST REWRITE THE EAR WITH NO BRIDGE IN IT? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT'S THE QUESTION ON NO BRIDGE? UH, YEAH, SO THE, UH, EIR ALREADY HAS THE NO BRIDGE OPTION IN IT. SO THAT IS IN THERE. IT HAS BEEN EVALUATED, IT IS, UM, ALREADY PART OF THE ANALYSIS. SO, UM, IF THE, THE DIRECTION IS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE A MAJORITY SUPPORTS THE NO BRIDGE, THAT WOULD BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION AS WE COME BACK WITH, UM, ULTIMATELY WHAT ARE GONNA BE FINDINGS. AND THAT MIGHT INFORM, UM, WHAT COMES BACK BEFORE STAFF. SO, UH, WE WILL HEAR FROM FOLKS AS I ASSUME. SO WHAT YOU NEED, WHAT YOU NEED IS COMMENTARY ON BRIDGE, NO BRIDGE RIPARIAN IN, IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SO, UM, YEAH, I'M, I'M NOT WOODED TO THE BRIDGE EITHER. UM, BUT UM, I, I, I'M, I'M, I'M GUESSING THAT THE KIND OF COMMENTS WE HEARD FROM THE NEIGHBORS TONIGHT REALLY ARE NOT CONSIDERED ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES THAT WOULD BE ANALYZED IN AN EIR. IS THAT CORRECT? OR ARE THEY MORE SOCIAL ISSUES? I MEAN, THEY, I THINK THERE ARE ISSUES THAT DE DESERVE TO BE ANALYZED, BUT I'M NOT SURE IF THEY FALL UNDER THE FRAMEWORK OF CE A, UH, I THINK THERE'S A, A COMBINATION CERTAINLY THAT WE'VE HEARD THAT FAR. SO WHAT, WHAT I WOULD SAY IS, DESPITE THAT LIMITATION, I THINK I, I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE NEIGHBOR'S CONCERNS ADDRESSED, EVEN IF THEY AREN'T STRICTLY CE A ISSUES. UM, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU COLOR HER OUTSIDE THE LINES THAT WAY, BUT I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE COMMUNITY EXPECTS, UM, ON, ON THE RIPARIAN ISSUES. UM, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THE ANALYSIS, UH, FOR THE BRIDGE AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS TAKING IN FULLY INTO ACCOUNT THE WILDLIFE THAT'S, THAT'S WE'RE BEING TOLD IS OUT THERE. AND, UM, I THINK BASED ON WHAT THE CITY ATTORNEY IS TELLING US, THAT, UM, IT WOULD BE SPINNING OUR WHEELS TO TRY TO LOOK AT MORE THAN 15% INCLUSIONARY AFFORDABLE ON THIS PROJECT. AND I, I DON'T THINK THAT'S GONNA BE A PRODUCTIVE USE OF ANYONE'S TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER. NOW, UM, YES, AND I, AS I STATED BEFORE, UM, NO BRIDGE AT THIS TIME BECAUSE WE KNOW WHAT, UM, THE SITUATION IS. UM, AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IT WOULD BE LEADING INTO PARKING IS AN ISSUE CITYWIDE. SO, UM, WE'VE GOT TO, UM, WORK ON THAT INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, POSSIBLY ON ELI TO AVOID, UM, PEOPLE PARKING IN THIS SPYGLASS NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THERE WILL BE OVERFLOW PARKING FROM THIS PROJECT BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH PARKING FOR THE HOMES. UM, WE DO WANT TO THINK ABOUT THE IMPACTS. I KNOW IT'S NOT PART OF THE EIR, BUT THE IMPACTS ON THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS, MCKENNA AND DELAWARE, UM, WE, WE OWE IT TO THE RESIDENTS THAT WE, UM, THINK ABOUT THOSE IMPACTS THAT ARE ON THOSE RESIDENTS ARE ALREADY THERE. AND, UM, THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE BEHIND THIS PROJECT AND THE PEP HOUSING RESIDENTS WHO, THIS IS PROBABLY WAY PAST THEIR BEDTIME TO BE HERE TONIGHT, BUT , SIMPLE . ANYWAY, THAT'S ALL I HAVE RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, COUNCIL MEMBER HEALEY, YOU WEIGH IN. YEAH, ONE, ONE LAST THING, AND THIS KIND OF GOES TO THE PARKING ISSUE, BUT THE, UM, THE NEIGHBORS GOT TO SIT THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION BY THE COUNTY OF SONOMA EARLIER TONIGHT, BUT I THINK STAFF CAME INTO THE ROOM LATER ABOUT THE MICROENTERPRISE HOME KITCHEN OPERATIONS, WHICH AUTHORIZES PEOPLE TO SELL UP TO 30 MEALS A DAY OUT OF THEIR KITCHENS, WHICH IS GONNA CREATE PARKING CHALLENGES, BUT THAT'S GONNA BE AS A MATTER OF, RIGHT? AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT KIND OF A THING MEASURES WITH THIS KIND OF A PROJECT WHERE THERE'S BEEN A REAL EFFORT TO, UM, MINIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF PARKING PROBABLY BELOW WHAT'S WHAT THE RESIDENTS ARE GONNA ACTUALLY HAVE. SO I I, I'D LIKE YOU TO TAKE A SHOT AT SQUARING THAT CIRCLE, AND IT'S NOT JUST THE MECO PROGRAM, BUT THINGS LIKE IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER . I MEAN, I, I, I THINK I UNDERSTAND NOW THAT THE, UM, THERE WAS SOME TALK EARLIER OF, UH, ALTERNATIVE BRIDGE SITES. I THINK, UH, I'M NOT EAGER TO SEE ANY ALTERNATIVE BRIDGE SITES VERSUS ON, UH, ON MY OWN WALKS OF THE AREA AND, UH, AND WHAT'S BEEN SAID. SO, UH, IN CASE THAT'S STILL THERE, I, I, I DON'T WANT TO, UH, STUDY ANY ALTERNATIVE BRIDGE SITES. I, UH, I'M NOT SURE HOW IT, HOW IT'S GONNA HELP US TO, UM, [03:10:01] PAY WHATEVER IT COSTS TO DO THE AFFORDABLE 100% AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SO I, I'D BE AGAINST SPENDING ANY, ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDS ON THAT. AND, AND, AND I'M SORT OF FEELING LIKE THAT'S THE SAME, UH, FOR THE, FOR THE BRIDGE, NO BRIDGE. I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT PROBLEM'S GONNA STILL, THE ISSUE OF BRIDGE, NO BRIDGE IS GONNA BE DECIDED LATER ON IT SEEMS LIKE, BASED ON THESE OTHER, OTHER ISSUES. UM, BUT I'M, I'M OKAY WITH IF IT'S GONNA MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE WITH THAT, WITH CON WITH DOING, UH, UH, A, UH, ADDITIONAL STUDY OF, OF THE NO BRIDGE OPTION, IF THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE NOW FOR ANY REASON. AND, UH, AND ALSO I, I DON'T THINK WE CAN OVERLOOK AT THE RIPARIAN CORRIDOR. I, I THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR SHRI, UM, PRETTY MUCH HAVE IN AGREEMENT WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN SAID HERE, UH, BY THE DEO. UM, THINGS TO ADD TO IT IS, UH, I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE ALMOST A YEAR AGO NOW TO ACTUALLY LOOK AT, UH, THE, THESE PLANS EARLY. UM, AND AT THAT TIME THEY, OF COURSE THEY LOOKED IDEAL. UH, GEE, I, I, MIKE RIDER, I LOVED HAVING A PATH, MAYBE ALLOWING HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS TO GET IN AND OUT, UH, ON A SAFER ROUTE TO AND FROM SCHOOL. THAT SEEMED REALLY NICE. BUT NOW, UM, UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE'S OTHER, UM, COMPLICATIONS THAT WE NOW KNOW EXIST. SO ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE EVALUATED IN THE PARKING, SINCE THE NUMBER OF CARS ON AVERAGE FOR THE CITY USING THAT, IF THAT WAS THE NUMBER OF CARS PER UNIT IN THIS FACILITY, HOW MANY CARS WOULD THAT BE? SO HOW MANY, ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S VISITORS, UM, HOW MANY CARS WOULD BE SPILLING OUT OF THIS PARTICULAR AREA ON ANY GIVEN NIGHT, AND WHERE WOULD THEY ACTUALLY GO? WOULD THEY GO OVER TO, UH, SEAGRASS OR WOULD THEY GO DOWN TO MCKENNA OR TRY TO GET INTO MCKENNA, WHICH THEY CAN'T, 'CAUSE IT'S THE SAME SITUATION THERE. WHERE WOULD THEY ACTUALLY GO? SO IF THERE'S ACTUALLY A PLAN TO PUT THOSE CARS SOMEWHERE THAT IS SAFE AND NOT INTERRUPTING OTHER PEOPLE'S LIVES, UH, IF WE CAN GET 'EM ONTO THE STREET AND MAKE IT A ONE ONE LANE, WHAT WOULD THAT DO? UM, THAT NEEDS TO BE PART OF THE ANALYSIS. SO I'D LIKE TO SEE, UM, AT LEAST THAT DISCUSSED OR AT LEAST LOOKED AT AS THE NUMBER OF CARS EXPECTED TO BE OVERFLOWED INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS. AND WHERE DO YOU EXPECT THOSE TO GO? THE SHORTEST WALKING DISTANCE FROM POSSIBLE PARKING THAT MIGHT BE, UH, ACROSS THE BRIDGE AND IN, AND HOW MANY CARS WOULD THAT ACTUALLY BE? SO CAN WE ESTIMATE THAT AS PART OF THE, UH, THE PARKING SITUATION. SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS TO LOOK AT. UM, AND HAVING BEEN A, UM, IN VARIOUS PUDS AND H HOAS, UH, EARLY ON, IN FACT, MY FIRST COUPLE OF HOUSES WERE HOA TYPES, AND, UH, I WAS ON THE BOARD AND PRESIDENT OF ONE. I WAS THE SOLE PERSON ON THE HOA BOARD AT ONE TIME. UM, SO I ACTUALLY RAN THE PLACE, I DID ALL THE LANDSCAPING TOO. AND SO, UH, I UNDERSTAND THE COMPLICATIONS OF WHEN AN HOA IS RESPONSIBLE FOR LONG-TERM MANAGEMENT OF ESSENTIALLY PUBLIC FACILITIES, AND IT'S A NO-GO, UH, FOR SURE IF, IF THEY'RE GONNA BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTENANCE OF THESE THINGS, WHICH CAN GET VERY COSTLY THEN UNLESS THERE'S A STRUCTURE PUT IN PLACE WITH A PRETTY HIGH PRICE, UH, RIGHT UP FRONT EARLY ON IN THE HOA, UM, THOSE THINGS WILL NOT BE MAINTAINED 20 YEARS OUT AND WILL NEVER GET REPAIRED. EXCESS. THEY BREAK DOWN. UH, I KNOW THAT FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. SO I AM CONCERNED THAT THE HOA BE SET UP PROPERLY WITH ENOUGH MONEY FOR LONG, LONG-TERM MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR OF THESE, OF WHATEVER PUBLIC FACILITIES. THE OTHER THING I GET CONCERNED ABOUT IS IT IS MOSTLY PRIVATE LAND WITH A LOT OF NOW PUBLIC ACCESS. AND WE'VE HEARD COMPLAINTS, UH, ON MCKENNA. UM, AND SO I GUESS, I GUESS I SHOULDN'T BE SURPRISED THAT THE STUDENTS ARE WALKING DOWN AND USING THEIR PARK AS, AS A STUDENT PARK, UM, AS, AS A SPILLOVER, UH, FROM THE SCHOOL TO GET ESCAPE AND GO SOMEWHERE. AND SO IF YOU'RE GONNA CONSIDER THE NO BRIDGE ALTERNATIVE, WHICH BASICALLY MAKES THOSE TWO PROPERTIES PRIVATE, NOT PUBLIC ACCESS ANYMORE, THAT MAYBE WE NEED TO PUT ON RESTRICTIONS. THESE ARE PRIVATE LANDS, NO STUDENTS ALLOWED ON THESE LANDS, PERIOD. AND SO THEY GET KICKED OFF OR CALLED OFF POLICE GET CALLED. THEY, THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED ON, UH, IF THEY'RE PRI IF THEY'RE GONNA BECOME PRIVATE ROADS, PRIVATE SIDEWALKS, PRIVATE PARKS FOR THOSE FOLKS. SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. IF YOU'RE GONNA GO WITH A NO BRIDGE, YOU MIGHT AS WELL ADD THAT IN AND SAY, OKAY, LET'S GO TO A TOTALLY PRIVATE SITUATION, NO PUBLIC ACCESS. WE MIGHT AS TO GO THAT FAR AND AT LEAST DO THAT AS AN ANALYSIS, UM, TO SEE IF THAT'S GONNA BE A GO OR NO GO, UH, DOWN THE ROAD. LETS STAY ON, UM, THE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE. OKAY. UM, ALRIGHT. OTHER THAN THAT, I PRETTY MUCH AGREE WHAT, WHAT, WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN SET UP HERE. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF, IF, IF IN THE, UM, BRIDGE ALTERNATIVE THAT THERE IS A BRIDGE THAT ADDITIONAL THINGS GET ADDED IN TO, UH, PROTECT VARIOUS THINGS. SO WHAT COULD BE AT, WHAT FEATURES COULD BE ADDED IN TO DO THE PROTECTIONS THAT ARE MOST CONCERNED ABOUT. UM, AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE FENCE, UH, [03:15:01] FOLKS CALLING OFF OVER FENCES AND DOING THAT IF THAT'S, THEY'RE DOING THAT ON A REGULAR BASIS, UH, THAT'S NOT SAFE FOR THEM TO CLIMB FENCES AND NOT SAFE FOR THE FOLKS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FENCE. SO, UM, THAT, I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S PART OF THE ANALYSIS THAT, DO WE, IS THAT PART OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS OR NOT? UH, ANYWAY, THERE'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT IN, IN A FINAL ANALYSIS BEFORE, AFTER THE ER, YES. OKAY. AFTER EVERYTHING. ALRIGHT. OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK I'LL JUST AGREE WITH IT, WHATEVER'S BEEN SET UP HERE AND WE'LL GO WITH IT. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLE. YEAH, A COUPLE QUESTIONS CAME UP FOR ME THERE. UM, I DON'T REMEMBER READING WHO'S GONNA MAINTAIN THE BRIDGE. UM, ONE OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTERS SAID THAT IT'S GONNA BE THE HOA, IS THAT CURRENTLY THE PLAN? YEAH, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT WOULD BE, UM, PAID FOR AND BUILT BY THE DEVELOPER AND APPLICANT, AND THEN, UM, MAINTAINED BY THE HOA, UH, WITH ACCESS, UM, EASEMENTS GRANTED FOR PUBLIC ACCESS. GOT YOU. AND THEN WHO PAY, WHO, UH, PAYS FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THE PATH THAT RUNS ALONG THE SPY GAS ROAD DOWN TO SATORI ON THAT SIDE OF THE CREEK TAXPAYER PROPERTY TAX. PROPERTY TAX. IT'S IN OUR TAX WE TAKE EVERY YEAR. IS IT THAT'S A LAD THAT YOU PAID FOR? YEAH, LAD BUT IT'S A PUBLIC, IT'S A PUBLIC ACCESS, RIGHT? YES. OKAY. UM, SO I, THE, THE THING THAT CATCHES MY EYE IS THE, THE COMPLETE WHERE THE BRIDGE IS LOCATED IS THE, THE TOTAL INADEQUACY OF THE PATH FOR THE TYPE OF TRAFFIC THAT WOULD BE, UM, FILTERED THROUGH THE MCKENNA NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, SO I THINK WE NEED TO, I I'M ACTUALLY IN FAVOR OF LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVE LOCATIONS FOR THE BRIDGE. UM, JUST BY LOOKING AT, I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THE GOOGLER THING. I HAVE GONE OUT AND RID, UM, RODE MY BIKE DOWN THAT PATH BEFORE, BUT I'M GONNA GO OUT AGAIN. UM, FOR SURE. UM, SO I WOULD, I WOULD SUPPORT LOOKING AT AN ALTERNATIVE LOCATION FOR THE BRIDGE. UM, I FEEL, I KNOW YOU SAID THAT IT'S NOT A CRUSADE AGAINST HIGH SCHOOL KIDS, BUT THAT'S HOW IT FEELS A LITTLE BIT UP HERE. I'LL BE HONEST, , IT FEELS A LITTLE BIT LIKE A HIGH CRUSADE AGAINST HIGH SCHOOL KIDS. UM, AND, UH, THERE'S A HIGH SCHOOL RIGHT THERE. UM, SO I THINK THAT WE'VE GOTTA START LOOKING AT PARKING PERMIT OR PERMIT PARKING PROGRAMS WHEN WE DO THESE SORTS OF THINGS. UM, I'M, I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT A BRIDGE FUNDED BY THE HOA. THAT'S A, THAT'S A TOTAL, UM, CONCERN FOR ME LONG TERM. UM, IF WE'RE GONNA DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND HAVE IT BE PUBLIC ACCESS, I, I JUST HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS LONG TERM LOOKING DOWN THE LINE, UM, AND HOW WE'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT THAT STAYS SAFE IF THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE, UM, DOESN'T HAVE THE MAINTENANCE OBLIGATION FOR IT. UM, I, I'M, I'M, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO STUDY THE SHADOWS BECAUSE IT'S COMPLIANT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN. UM, THE, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE COMMENTS ABOUT MCKENNA, I, I, I SYMPATHIZE WITH THEM, UM, WHEN THE PROJECT WAS APPROVED THE FIRST TIME I TALKED ABOUT THE FLOOD, UH, ELEVATIONS AND THAT IT WAS GONNA NOT BE IN INSUFFICIENT. SO IT'S NOT SURPRISING TO HEAR THAT IT WAS UP FOUR, UH, FOUR FEET. UM, BUT TO, YOU KNOW, WHEN I THINK ABOUT CONNECTIVITY, UH, AND, AND WHERE WE WANT TO BE GOING, IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, AND I LOOK AT THE, LOOKING AT THE GOOGLE MAP TO REFRESH MY MEMORY, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PEOPLE THAT WE'RE HEARING FROM RIGHT NOW IS, YOU KNOW, ABSOLUTELY HAVE A LOT OF REALLY VALUABLE INPUT. UM, THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE IN THIS AREA THAT ARE NOT HERE TONIGHT THAT ACTUALLY WOULD BENEFIT FROM THE CONNECTIVITY. AND I JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO LOOK AT THE, THE GREATER GOOD. AND THAT'S WHY I THINK WE SHOULD BE STUDYING AN ALTERNATIVE BRIDGE LOCATION BECAUSE, UM, THE, WHAT I SEE RIGHT NOW IS THAT IF WE'RE GONNA PUT A BRIDGE IN HERE, IT NEEDS TO BE LEADING TO A PATH THAT, UM, CAN HANDLE THE CAPACITY IN THE DIFFERENT MODES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. UM, UH, THE, THE FOREFOOT DG, UH, TRAIL IS GONNA BE COMPLETELY INADEQUATE FOR THE LEVEL OF TRAFFIC THAT WE WOULD SEE IF THE BRIDGE WAS PUT IN. SO, UM, FOR THAT REASON, I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT AN ALTERNATIVE BRIDGE LOCATION. I DEFINITELY DON'T THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE ALL AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT WAS THE THIRD POINT? RIPARIAN IMPACTS. YEAH. LET'S LOOK AT THE RIPARIAN IMPACTS. YEAH, WONDERFUL. THANK YOU. UM, THAT IS THE BENEFIT OF HAVING THE PUBLIC ACTUALLY COME TO A MEETING AND ACTUALLY SPEAK. WE DO GET SO MUCH, UH, DIRECT INPUT THAT, UH, UH, OTHERWISE WE WOULDN'T GET. SO I APPRECIATE YOU ALL BEING HERE TONIGHT. AND, UM, AND PROBABLY I WAS ONE OF THOSE COUNCIL PEOPLE THAT SAID THIS BRIDGE WAS A REALLY IMPORTANT THING. UM, I [03:20:01] PROBABLY DID THAT BECAUSE, UM, I VIEW MOST EVERYTHING NOW IN TERMS OF CLIMATE CRISIS AND WHAT WE NEED TO BE DOING TO GET PEOPLE OUTTA CARS. AND, UM, AND I THINK WE'RE VERY CLEAR WHERE WE ARE IN A BAD SPACE, AND I THINK WE KNOW WHERE WE HAVE TO GET TO IN A GOOD SPACE WITH A LOT LESS DRIVING AROUND AND, AND, AND THINGS. I THINK THE PARTING BETWEEN'S A LITTLE FUZZY AND, AND, AND BUMPY. AND, UM, WHEN THIS CAME, WHEN MCKENNA CAME TO, UH, THIS BODY AND I, I MAY HAVE BEEN ON PLANNING WHEN, WHEN MCKENNA CAME THROUGH, UM, IT COULDN'T, UH, IT, IT COULDN'T BE ACCOMMODATED. A BRIDGE COULDN'T BE ACCOMMODATED. MCKENNA, THOUGH, THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL IDEA WAS YOU COME IN, WE'RE GONNA HAVE NICU FOR THAT, UH, CROSSING OF THE CREEK THERE BECAUSE IT REALLY HELPS CIRCULATION, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. SO THAT'S WHY I THINK YOU FIND COUNCIL SAYING THAT, THAT THIS IS A REAL GOOD IDEA. WE NEED TO DO CIRCULATION, WE NEED TO MAKE IT SO PEOPLE CAN CYCLE HERE AND THERE. UM, BUT WE PUSHED IT OFF. WE KIND OF KICKED A CAN DOWN THE NEXT SUBDIVISION RATHER THAN GET IT INTO, INTO MCKENNA. AND WITH THAT, THE ANALYSIS MAY NOT HAVE BEEN THOROUGH AT THAT TIME. YOU KNOW, WE KNEW MCKENNA WASN'T RIGHT, BUT WE, WE, WE KNEW WE'D GET A CHANCE TO SEE, UH, THIS SUBDIVISION AT A, AT A LATER TIME. WELL, THAT LATER TIME IS NOW. AND IF THE PA, IF THE BRIDGE DOESN'T CONNECT TO ANY OF OUR A TP SYSTEM, UH, IF IT DOESN'T CONNECT TO TRAILS THAT THE CITY ACTUALLY OWNS AND, AND PUTS THE PUBLIC ON, THEN YOU KNOW, IT NEEDS TO BE REEVALUATED. WHETHER IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD BRIDGE OR NOT. UH, I GET THE CONNECTIVITY. I STILL LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING PEOPLE OFF THEIR CARS AND HAVING TO WRECK ROOTS, BUT, UH, YOU GOTTA BALANCE THE OTHER INPUTS AS TO WHETHER IT'S THE PROPER ONE AT THIS TIME. THE, UH, NONETHELESS, I THINK THE EIR GOES, UH, FULL AHEAD. WE GET US THE, A FINAL EIR ON THIS AND GET INTO THE SPAR ACTIONS AND OTHER ACTIONS OF PLANNING. UM, AND, AND I THINK IF IT IS THAT THE BRIDGE ISN'T INCLUDED IN THE FINAL, I THINK THAT RIPARIAN, UH, ISSUES ARE, ARE DEALT WITH QUITE WELL THERE. THAT KEEPS THE KIDS ADDED. A CREEK KEEPS, UH, THE IDEA AWAY FROM LIGHTING UP THE CREEK AT NIGHT THAT, THAT, UM, YOU CAN'T DO THAT IN, IN NATURAL HABITATS AND THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING THING. I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY LEGS IN TAKING THIS ANY FURTHER DOWN THAT PATH. IT WILL LEAD TO WORSER RESULTS. SO, UM, THOSE WOULD BE MY COMMENTS. ANYBODY REMEMBER? ANOTHER THING THEY WANT TO ADD TO THIS? SO I THINK THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR A RESOLUTION AND WE SHOULD RECAP WHAT THE ACTUAL RESOLUTION IS. WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THEIR, UH, UM, EFFORT TO ADD THAT? SO, SO THE RE RESOLUTION OF THE PACKAGE IS, UH, UM, A REALLY, REALLY STRAIGHTFORWARD ONE, JUST A FEW RECITALS. UM, THE FIRST ACTION, UM, PART OF IT SAYS THAT THOSE RECITALS ARE TRUE AND CORRECT, AND THE NEXT ONE WOULD, UM, THE REAL SUBSTANTIVE ONE SAYS, STAFF ARE HEREBY AUTHORIZED AND DIRECTED TO PREPARE THE FINAL EIR FOR THE PROJECT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CITY'S ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW GUIDELINES AND THE REQUIREMENTS OF CQA. SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SEEKING. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER HEALY. SO MOVED. SECOND BY CATER THOMPSON. THANK YOU. UH, CITY ATTORNEY DANLEY. APPRECIATE THE SUCCINCTNESS. AND UH, MAY WE HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE. I APOLOGIZE. I MISSED THE SECOND AT CATER THOMPSON. GOT IT. THANK YOU. MARLE. AYE. CATER THOMPSON? YES. HEALY? YES. NOW? YES. POST. OKAY. YES. SHRIVES? YES. MCDONALD? YES. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND, UH, BEFORE WE ADJOURN TONIGHT, I JUST WANNA ME, UH, MENTION THAT WE ARE CLOSING IN THE MEMORY OF MAX MICKELSON WHO PASSED THIS WEEK. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE. THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED RIGHT HERE. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.