* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:02] ALL RIGHT. WELCOME [CALL TO ORDER] TO THE SEPTEMBER 18TH, 2024 MEETING OF THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. UH, WHY DON'T WE KICK THINGS OFF WITH ROLL CALL? OKAY. AND I APOLOGIZE, MY MIC IS NOT WORKING. UH, DO YOU WANT THIS ONE? I'LL GRAB THEM IN SECOND. THANKS. EE HERE, OBEY HERE FOR B KUEN. HERE. COBER. HERE. MCCURLEY HERE. BOTICELLI. HERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND AS WE MOVE INTO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, I'M GONNA ASK OUR CLERK, DID WE RECEIVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS VIA EMAIL PRIOR TO THE MEETING? WE DID NOT. EXCELLENT. SO I'M GONNA OPEN GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. THIS IS, UH, GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS, UH, ON ITEMS OF PUBLIC INTEREST WITHIN THE SUBJECT MATTER. JURISDICTION NOT LISTED ON THE CURRENT AGENDA. WE HAVE NO ONE IN THE PUBLIC. SO I WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AND I WILL MOVE US RIGHT INTO PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION. AND THE FIRST ITEM WE HAVE HERE IS THE STREET TREE CHAIR. RAKI. SORRY, I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU, BUT YOU SKIPPED OVER APPROVAL OF MINUTES. I SKIPPED RIGHT OVER THAT. THANK YOU. YES. THE APPROVAL OF [APPROVAL OF MINUTES] MINUTES. SO WE'RE GONNA APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE MEETING OF AUGUST 21ST, 2024. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY CHANGES OR UPDATES OR FEEDBACK ON THE MINUTES? OKAY. NOW DOES THAT SATISFY US FOR APPROVAL? SHOULD WE DO A HAND RAISE MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES? I WAS ACTUALLY NOTIFIED. DON'T HAVE TO DO, DON'T MOTION A SECOND. SO AS LONG AS ALL APPROVED OKAY. SEEING NO CHANGES OR REQUESTS ALL DEEMED AS APPROVED, WE'RE ALWAYS LEARNING. UH, THAT TAKES CARE OF APPROVAL OF MINUTES. SO NOW [PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION] WE WILL MOVE INTO PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION. AND THE FIRST ITEM WE HAVE IS THE STREET TREE AD HOC COMMITTEE PROGRESS UPDATE. AND YOU'LL HAVE TO REMIND ME, CINDY, WHO IS ON THE STREET TREE AD HOC COMMITTEE. SO THE TWO MEMBERS, THE CHAIR IS, UM, COMMITTEE MEMBER FOR ME. AND THEN COMMITTEE MEMBER EWING ARE THE TWO. AND THERE'S TWO COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT ARE PART OF THAT. PERFECT. OH, AND BILL, SORRY. AND ROGER. VICE VER. OH, ROGER MCING. SORRY. EBERLY, DO YOU WANT TO GIVE THE UPDATE? ROGER? I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THE UPDATE. UM, WELL I CAN ONLY GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF AN UPDATE 'CAUSE UM, HOWARD IS THE CHAIRPERSON, SO I'M JUST A FOOT SOLDIER. UM, SO I HAVE TO SAY THAT TIME KIND OF GOES BY, WE HAD A MEETING IN FEBRUARY AND UH, TWO OF THE MEMBERS OF THE AD HOC COMMITTEE, ONE OF THEM, UM, HAD BEEN ON PART OF THE, UM, STREET TREE LIST COMPILATION FROM 2008. SO SHE HAD THE EXCEL SHEET AND WAS GOING TO, YOU KNOW, WE WERE GONNA DO SUBTRACTION IN ADDITIONS. AND SHE AND ANOTHER PERSON WERE GOING TO BE WORKING ON THAT. BUT I KNOW THAT PEOPLE GET REALLY BUSY. SO, UM, WE'VE GONNA CIRCLE BACK AROUND TO HER AND IF SHE'S NOT ABLE TO DO IT, I'M GONNA TEACH MYSELF EXCEL AND I WILL DO IT. UM, OR PERHAPS ROGER. UM, I'M . OH, OH, SORRY. OKAY. UM, AT ANY RATE, UM, WE ARE, WE'RE WORKING ON IT. I KNOW FROM CINDY THAT, THAT WE NEED TO BE FINISHED BY DECEMBER. UM, BUT I JUST WANTED TO, UM, SAY IF ANYONE HAS ANY, UH, ADDITIONS OR SUBTRACTIONS OF SPECIES THAT THEY WOULD LIKE INCLUDED TO, UM, TO LET ME KNOW. AND, AND THEN I WAS LISTENING TO THE MINUTES FROM A LAST MONTH'S MEETING AND THIS WHOLE THING ABOUT, UM, ALL THE, ALL OF OUR EMPTY STREET WELLS THAT WE HAVE AND, YOU KNOW, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, CLEARLY WE NEED TO DO A LOT OF, A LOT OF WORK THERE. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I, I ALWAYS HAVE THESE KIND OF FANTASIES OF WHAT WE CAN DO. AND I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA NEED TO HAVE A LOT OF RESOURCES IN PLACE. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS, YOU KNOW, WE, I HEAR A LOT OF PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT HOW WE PLANT TOO MANY CRATE MYRTLES. AND I, UH, OF COURSE YOU PROBABLY ALREADY KNOW I'M GUILTY OF THAT MYSELF. BUT I'M JUST WONDERING, YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD COME UP WITH A LIST OF PEOPLE, BOTH PROFESSIONALS AND PEOPLE LIKE, LIKE OURSELVES THAT SOME OF US ARE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS AND SOME OF US JUST HAVE A LOT OF INTEREST AND KNOWLEDGE THAT WOULD BE WILLING TO ADVISE THE PUBLIC WHEN THEY WANT TO PLANT A TREE SO THAT WE TRY TO DO MORE EDUCATION AROUND NOT PLANTING THE SAME SPECIES AND TRYING TO GET THE, THE LARGEST TREE IN, IN THE, IN THE APPROPRIATE SPOTS. UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO GET SOME FEEDBACK ON WHAT PEOPLE THINK ABOUT THAT IDEA, ABOUT HAVING SOME RESOURCES. UM, [00:05:01] AND, UM, AND THE OTHER THING I'M ALWAYS THINKING ABOUT WHEN I, I, SO I, I PLANTED A TREE ON MY NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY AND I, IT WAS A DROUGHT TALENT TREE AND I PLANTED IT FIVE YEARS AGO AND, UM, IT WAS DOING PRETTY WELL. AND NOW IT'S 15 FEET TALL AND I CAME BACK AFTER MY SUMMER WAY AND IT'S DEAD 'CAUSE IT DIDN'T GET WATERED. AND SO I SEE TREES, YOU KNOW, AROUND TOWN THAT AREN'T BEING WATERED. AND, AND UM, I FOUND, I WAS ABLE TO FIND THE PEOPLE AT THE, UM, AT THE HIGH SCHOOL AND SAY, HEY, THESE TREES ON ENGLISH STREET ARE, ARE GONNA DIE IF YOU DON'T START WATERING THEM. SO THEY DID TURN THE WATER UP AND, AND ALL THE TREES SURVIVED EXCEPT FOR ONE. BUT THAT'S THE OTHER THING I KEEP THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS LISTENING TO THE MINUTES FROM LAST MONTH IS WE NEED, YOU KNOW, WE NEED A NUMBER IN THE CITY, UM, THAT PEOPLE CAN CALL, UM, AND KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THE, THE PROBLEMS CAN, WILL HOPEFULLY BE ADDRESSED BEFORE, BEFORE THE TREES DIE. UM, SO, UM, YEAH. SO I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAD TO SAY. UM, SO, UM, YEAH, WE'RE WORKING ON IT AND WE WILL GET IT DONE BY DECEMBER, SO FANTASTIC. THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE. AND A QUICK QUESTION TO CINDY, UH, FOR THE AD HOC, HOW WAS IT ORIGINALLY SCOPED? UM, EVERLY BROUGHT UP THAT THIS IS GONNA END IN DECEMBER. WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL SCOPE FOR THE, THE ORIGINAL SCOPE WAS JUST TO UPDATE THE STREET TREE LIST AND THAT WAS THE, THAT WAS THE FULL SCOPE OF IT WHEN IT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD THE FIRST TIME. AND THEN WE BROUGHT IT BACK A SECOND TIME BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T FINISH IT. SO THIS HAS KIND OF BEEN AN, AN ONGOING AD HOC, BUT I THINK THE IMPETUS FOR DECEMBER IS THAT THE TPO THAT HEATHER BROUGHT TO US LAST MONTH WILL MOST LIKELY GO TO COUNCIL BY THE END OF THE YEAR, WHICH MEANS WE SHOULD REALLY HAVE THAT STREET FREE LIST UPDATED FOR PLANNING TO IMPLEMENT WITH THE TPO. OH, YEAH. UH, WELL I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT ENOUGH THAT THE COMMITTEE HERE SHOULD HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIEW IT BEFORE IT GOES TO THE TPO. AND WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO GET A DRAFT BE AS WELL, THE AD HOC SHOULD BRING IT BACK TO THE FULL COMMITTEE FOR THE COMMITTEE TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK BEFORE YOU FINALIZE WHAT YOU PUT AS THE STREET TREE LIST RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE SEND TO PLANNING. SO YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. BILL COULD, COULD THEY, COULD WE GET A DRAFT JUST CIRCULATED AMONGST OURSELVES OR IS IT A BROWN? SO, SO NO, NO, NO. THE CURRENT STREET TREE LIST IS ALREADY I AVAILABLE SO I CAN SHARE THAT WITH YOU. IT'S AVAILABLE THROUGH THE CITY WEBSITE SO I CAN SHARE THE ONE THAT EXISTS, BUT DRAFTS THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE AD HOC TO BRING TO THE COMMITTEE AND IT'S THEIR UPDATE. SO IF THEY WANT US TO PROVIDE IT AS PART OF THEIR UPDATE, WE CAN. SO EVERLY AND YOU KNOW, ROGER, WHEN YOU GUYS TALK TO HOWARD WHEN YOU GUYS MEET AGAIN, THEN YOU KNOW, COMMITTEE'S ASKING FOR UPDATES WITH THE WORK THAT MAYBE THE PROGRESS BILL, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR PROGRESS KIND OF ON THE CHANGES? YEAH, IF WE WANNA GIVE FEEDBACK ON TREES THAT SHOULD OR SHOULDN'T BE ON THE LIST, THEN IT SOUNDS LIKE IT NEEDS TO COME TO THE COMMITTEE, BE PUBLIC, ALL THAT. WE CAN'T CIRCULATE THE, A DRAFT OF IT AMONG THE ENTIRE COMMITTEE AT THIS POINT. I CAN SHARE IT WITH YOU. IT'S A PUBLIC DOCUMENT. OKAY. SO THERE'S A, THERE'S A STREET TREE LIST THAT ALREADY EXISTS, SO THAT'S THE ONE THEY'RE WORKING OFF OF. AND I CAN SHARE THAT ONE. THE ONES IF THERE'S UPDATES AND THEY WANT FEEDBACK FROM YOU, YOU ARE CORRECT. THEY SHOULD, WE SHOULD SUBMIT IT AS PART OF THE UPDATE SO YOU CAN REVIEW THEM AND THE PUBLIC CAN ALSO COMMENT ON THEM. OKAY. YEAH. IS IT, IS IT EBERLY? IS IT JUST A MATTER OF UH, NEEDING TO PUT AN EXCEL SPREADSHEET TOGETHER WITH A LIST OR? WELL, THAT'S PRIMARILY IT, BUT YEAH, THERE, I, I KNOW MY WAY AROUND EXCEL SPREADSHEETS PRETTY WELL, SO I COULD PUT ONE TOGETHER WITH WHATEVER INFORMATION YOU WANNA TRACK AND THEN SHOW YOU HOW TO POPULATE THE FIELDS. IT'S PRETTY EASY. ALRIGHT, WELL, ALRIGHT, WELL THAT'S AN AWESOME OFFER. YEAH. UM, WE COULD GET THAT GOING SO THAT WE COULD AT LEAST HAVE THAT PRELIMINARY LIST THAT PEOPLE COULD TAKE A LOOK AT MAYBE SOONER RATHER THAN, THAN LATER. JUST THINKING BROWN ACT. CINDY, DOES THAT GET US INTO ANY ISSUES OR IS RIGHT NOW, IS IT JUST HOWARD AND EVERLY KINDA FORMALLY ON THAT UP? IT'S THE, IT'S ROGER, HOWARD AND EVERLY AND THEN THERE'S TWO COMMUNITY MEMBERS. SO IF WE WERE, IF IF COMMITTEE MEMBER BERTELLI WERE TO ASSIST WITH EXCEL, THAT'S ONE THING. IF SHE'S HELPING WITH CONTENT, THEN WE WOULD BE IN VIOLATION OF THE BROWN ACT. RIGHT. BECAUSE SHOULDN'T, SHE'S NOT PART OF THE AD HOC, BUT IF SHE WAS MEETING WITH SOMEBODY TO SAY HOW MUCH I HAD TO DO EXCEL, YOU SHOULD BE FINE. YEAH. WHAT I WOULD DO IS JUST SET UP THE FORM WITH THE FIELDS THAT YOU WANT, THE INFORMATION BOTANICAL NAME, WHATEVER, WHATEVER YOU WANT SIZE, WHATEVER INFORMATION YOU WANT ON THERE AND SHOW YOU HOW TO FILL, FILL OUT EACH, EACH, UH, CELL IN THE FORM SO THAT YOU CAN GENERATE THAT SPREADSHEET. ALL RIGHT, WELL LET'S JUST MEET OUTSIDE AFTER THE MEETING AND WE CAN JUST SURE. SOUNDS GOOD. PERFECT. AND IT SOUNDS LIKE TIMELINE WISE, IF WE CAN GET A DRAFT FROM THE AD HOC BY IDEALLY OCTOBER, [00:10:01] BUT BY NOVEMBER SO WE CAN AT LEAST REVIEW IT, GIVE FEEDBACK IN TIME FOR A DECEMBER SUBMISSION. AND THEN I THINK SOME OF THE OTHER ITEMS YOU BROUGHT UP ARE WORTHY OF DISCUSSION WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS AD HOC, IF YOU KNOW, THIS ONE EXPIRES, DO WE REFORM SOMETHING THAT TACKLES SOME OF THE EDUCATION GHOST TREES AS THEY'RE CALLED THOSE STREET TREE WELLS? UM, I THINK THAT'S WORTHY OF DISCUSSION, YOU KNOW, AT THAT DECEMBER MEETING AS WELL. ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON STREET TREE AD HOC? OKAY, WELL THEN WE CAN, DO I NEED TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT, CINDY, JUST TO REMIND ME? OKAY, PERFECT. WELL THEN I'LL OPEN THIS ITEM FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. OH, UM, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME AND GIVE A COMMENT ON OUR STREET TREE COMMITTEE AD HOC, YOU CAN SUBMIT A FORM AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO GIVE A PUBLIC COMMENT AND OUR BOARD MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC IS NOT JUMPING OUT OF HER CHAIR . SO WE CAN MOVE TO, COULD I JUST COMMENT ON ONE OF THE OTHER, UH, ITEMS THAT EVERLY RAISED, WHICH YEAH, PLEASE. I'M TALKING ABOUT, UM, BEING, PROVIDING RESOURCES TO THE PUBLIC OR BEING, UM, YOU KNOW, BEING, UH, ON A LIST OF NAMES THAT PEOPLE COULD CALL IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS. AND I WOULD BE VERY WILLING TO DO THAT. UM, ONE OTHER THOUGHT THAT I HAD WHEN SHE WAS MENTIONING THAT WAS HAVE WE DONE ANY OUTREACH TO THE NURSERIES IN TOWN OR NEARBY TO SAY, HEY, THESE ARE LIKE, IN SOME CASES THEY SELL INVASIVE SPECIES, THEY SELL THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, ARE DETRIMENTAL TO HABITAT AND MAYBE HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE NURSERY IS ABOUT HAVING MORE NATIVE PLANTS GUIDING PEOPLE TO MAKE THE, THE RIGHT DECISION ABOUT THOSE PLANTS. MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T WANNA ADD ANOTHER A HOC TO THE ELIZABETH. WELL, I, WELL, EXACTLY. BUT I DO, I THINK THE DISCUSSION YOU'RE BRINGING UP, I DON'T WANNA STIFLE THAT DISCUSSION, BUT I THINK THAT'S A BIGGER POINT THAT ALMOST SOUNDS LIKE IT COULD BE EITHER ANOTHER AD HOC, MAYBE ANOTHER TOPIC, MAYBE A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT THAT WE COULD BRING IN. UM, BUT FOR IDEAS LIKE THAT REALLY ANY OTHER IDEAS COMMITTEE MEMBERS HAVE THAT AREN'T NARROWLY SCOPED HERE, IF YOU EMAIL ME AND CINDY, MAYBE WE CAN FIGURE OUT A WAY TO PUT THAT AS AN AGENDA ITEM IN A FUTURE MEETING. 'CAUSE I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. MAY I COMMENT PLEASE. UM, I WAS INVITED BY RELIEF TO GO OUT WALKING IN MIDTOWN AND, UM, APPROACHING KNOCKING ON DOORS AND ASKING HOUSES, YOU KNOW, DO YOU WANT A FREE TREE PLANTED FOR YOU? ALL OF THIS. AND IT INCLUDES STREET TREES, EMPTY WELLS, AND OF COURSE RELIEF HAS, UM, A LOT OF FUNDING. I DON'T KNOW, THE RECENT GRANT IS SOMETHING LIKE A MILLION DOLLARS I THINK, BUT THEY'VE GOT ALL THE KIND OF TREES, I MEAN A WIDE VARIETY OF NATIVE TREES, OF ALL SHAPES, ALL SIZES, ALL LOOKS. AND IT'S JUST REALLY A WONDERFUL PROGRAM. AND I NOTICED RECENTLY, AND CINDY CAN CONFIRM THAT WHILE ORIGINALLY OUR RELIEF CAMPAIGN OR THEIR RELIEF CAMPAIGN THAT I PARTICIPATED IN, UM, WAS FOCUSED TO MIDTOWN BECAUSE OF THE POOR CANOPY, UH, COVERAGE IN MIDTOWN, BUT NOW IT'S BEEN EXPANDED THROUGHOUT THE CITY, THE ENTIRE CITY I BELIEVE. AND SO THIS LOOKS LIKE A PLUG AND PLAY FOR THIS TYPE OF A ISSUE. SO MAYBE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THERE. ABSOLUTELY. IF WE FORM ANOTHER AD HOC OR STREET TREE LIVES ON, POTENTIALLY THERE COULD BE CONNECTIONS WITH RELIEF EXISTING PROGRAMS. WE JUST HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TAC WOULD BE DOING THAT SOMETHING IS KIND OF A DELIVERABLE AND WHAT WE WOULD BE BRINGING TO THE COMMUNITY. SO I WANNA HAVE THIS DISCUSSION. DEFINITELY. UM, 'CAUSE I THINK THERE, THERE ARE A LOT OF PIECES THERE AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT GHOST TREES FOR A LONG TIME AND GETTING MORE STREET TREES. SO I THINK THOSE ARE GREAT IDEAS. UH, ANYONE ELSE ON THE COMMITTEE? ANY COMMENTS? I, I, I'D MAYBE I'D LOVE TO HEAR WHAT THE RESPONSE WAS TO THE NEIGHBOR AND WHAT SORT OF FEEDBACK THERE WAS TO, YOU KNOW, FREE STREET TREES OR FREE TREES IN GENERAL. YEAH. UM, IT WAS INTERESTING. SO THERE WAS DEFINITELY A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HOMEOWNERS AND RENTERS, RIGHT? 'CAUSE RENTERS REALLY AREN'T IN A POSITION TO READILY MAKE A DECISION. AND SO YOU'VE GOT A WHOLE NOTHER LAYER IN THE SALES, UM, IN THE SALES FUNNEL THERE. UM, UH, WITH REGARD TO TREES, BASICALLY THE SPECIFICATIONS, THE REQUIREMENTS ARE 15 FEET AWAY FROM A SIDEWALK, 15 FEET AWAY FROM A DRIVEWAY. UM, OF COURSE THEY CONSIDER OVERHEAD WIRES, BUT ALL OF THEIR TREES, THERE'S SOMETHING FOR EVERYBODY. SO EVEN IF YOU HAVE WIRES AND THEY'RE CLOSER THAN 15 FEET, YOU KNOW, WENDY WAS SAYING, OH YEAH, YOU COULD GO WITH THIS TREE. AND I WAS KIND OF SURPRISED, RIGHT? SO, UM, IN TERMS OF, [00:15:01] UH, RESPONSE, SOME PLACES, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF TREES THAT ARE GOING IN, I'M IMPRESSED. AND RELIEF ALSO PUTS DOWN A LITTLE MARKETING THING WHEN THEY PLANT A NEW TREE SAYING, YOU KNOW, THIS TREE BROUGHT TO YOU BY RELIEF. SO IT'S GETTING THE WORD OUT AND JUST IN, I WANNA SAY, LET'S CALL IT TWO SQUARE BLOCKS, I WANNA SAY. AND STANDARD CITY BLOCKS, RIGHT? NOT REALLY HUGE OR LONG. UM, I WANNA SAY I'VE SEEN AT LEAST A DOZEN TREES IN AND TO, THAT'S JUST THE FRONT YARD. I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S ON THE BACK IN THE BACKYARD, BUT IT'S ANYWHERE FROM PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE TREES TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE A LOT OF TREES AND WANT MORE TREES. I WAS IMPRESSED. TERRIFIC. AND I DON'T WANNA STIFLE THAT, BUT, AND BECAUSE IT'S STREET TREES, I THOUGHT LET'S HEAR THAT OUT AND IT'S A GOOD TRANSITION. UH, TARYN, IF YOU WANT TO KICK US OFF FOR OUR NEXT MATTER FOR CONSIDERATION, OUR COMMUNICATION AND OUTREACH AD HOC COMMITTEE PROGRESS UPDATE. YEAH, I'D LOVE TO BECAUSE, UM, I'M REALLY PLEASED WE'VE REALLY, UM, KICK BUTT WITH THIS AD HOC. UM, WE'VE WORKED ON THREE PRIMARY THINGS. ONE IS THE TREE, UH, PROTECTION ORDINANCE. AND UH, WE DID SUCH DEEP RESEARCH WITH A NUMBER, I WANNA SAY FIVE DIFFERENT LEADING CALIFORNIA TREE CITIES AND BROUGHT BACK THE SPECIFICS OF WHAT MAKES THEIR ORDINANCES LEADING EDGE AND FURTHER WHAT MAKES THEIR OPERATION ABLE TO HANDLE MORE WITH LESS IN TERMS OF RESOURCING STRUCTURE LIKE STAFFING RESOURCES, OUTSOURCING WITH CONTRACTORS AND ALSO SOFTWARE. AND WE SERVED ALL OF THAT UP TO HEATHER HAS BEEN A GREAT HEATHER HINES, UM, WHO'S BEEN A GREAT, UM, AS YOU'VE SEEN A GREAT PARTNER AND SHE COLLECTED ALL OF THAT STUFF AND WE SAW A DRAMATIC IMPROVEMENT IN THAT LAST MEETING PRESENTATION WITH THE DRAFT OF THE TREE ORDINANCE. SO THAT'S REALLY BEEN, UM, I'M VERY PLEASED WITH THAT BECAUSE WE'RE MOVING THE NEEDLE A LOT WITH THIS TREE ORDINANCE. OKAY. SO, UM, THAT'S KIND OF CONCLUDED, RIGHT? AND THEN WE WERE WORKING ON PG AND E AND WE GOT GREAT TRACTION WITH PG AND E, UM, UNTIL WE KIND OF WENT PUBLIC WITH IT. AND THEN IT APPEARS THAT, UM, WE'RE REALLY NOT INVOLVED ANYMORE. UM, IT'S BEING TAKEN OVER BY STAFF, WHICH I PERSONALLY THINK IS A REALLY GOOD THING BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT AND IT NEEDS TO BE OPERATIONALIZED. AND WHILE WE STEPPED IN, RAISED THE BAR RAISED AWARENESS, I THINK STAFF IS 100% APPROPRIATE TO BE TAKING OVER THIS REALLY GOOD WORK. AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT PG E JUST TRIMMED MY SYCAMORE IN THE FRONT OF MY HOUSE AND THE CUSTOMER SERVICE WAS BEYOND EXCELLENT. THE TRIMMING, THE PRUNING JOB AWAY FROM THE PG E WIRES WAS DONE IN A WAY THAT WASN'T LIKE IN PRIOR YEARS, WHICH WAS A COMPLETE HACK WHERE THEY TAKE MY TREE CANOPY, THERE ARE THE WIRES, AND THEN THEY BASICALLY CUT A WHOLE CHUNK OUT OF IT, YOU KNOW, LIKE A WHOLE PIECE OF THE PIE. THEY DIDN'T DO THIS THIS TIME. THEY SCULPTED IT AND MADE IT STILL LOOK LIKE A CANOPY. IT WAS ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL. UM, SO THAT WAS A REAL WOW. AND, UM, I GOTTA THINK IT'S, UM, THANKS TO OUR GOOD BUDDIES NOW THAT WE'VE, UH, MADE THESE STRONG RELATIONSHIPS WITH PG E UM, I HOPE IT WASN'T THAT I'M GETTING PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT, UM, BUT I WAS ABSOLUTELY BLOWN AWAY. SO THAT'S BEEN I WOULD SAY A HUGE SUCCESS. AND THEN, UM, LET'S SEE. I THINK, I THINK THAT'S IT. WHAT ELSE? OH NO, WE'VE BEEN LIAISONING WITH A BUSINESS THAT HAS A PROBLEMATIC STREET TREAT, UH, IN FRONT OF THEM. AND WE WORKED WITH STAFF, UH, IN PUBLIC WORKS AND WE CAME UP WITH A SOLUTION AND WE ARE JUST NOW IN THE FINALIZATION FINAL APPROVAL OF OUR SOLUTION. BUT WE'RE DELIVERING BACK TO THIS BUSINESS, UM, PROPERTY, UH, ALL SORTS OF RESOURCES TO POINT THEM TO HOW TO SAVE THE TREE, WHICH THEY WANNA DO. AND THANKS TO THE DEEP SIDEWALK THEY HAVE ALL OF THE A DA COMPLIANCE, THE CITY'S SIDEWALK STANDARDS, WHAT THEY'RE ABLE TO DO TO INCREASE THE WELL SIZE FOR THAT TREE BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE QUITE, UM, MEDIUM TO LARGE AS A, AS IT MATURES. AND THEN WE'VE ALSO INCLUDED, UH, VARIOUS MATERIAL OPTIONS THAT THEY CAN USE. CONCRETE ASPHALT, SOMETHING KINDA RUBBERIZED. AND THEN THE FINAL PIECE WAS THAT WHAT CAUSED THE PROBLEM IN THE FIRST PLACE WAS WATER ISN'T GETTING DOWN TO THE ROOTS OF THE TREES WHERE IT NEEDS TO, YOU KNOW, LIKE AT THE DRIP LINE. AND UM, ROGER POINTED US TO UH, LOOKING AT UH, SOME DEEP WATERING SOLUTIONS AND WE'VE INCLUDED THAT AND POINTED HER TO RESOURCES [00:20:01] ON IN THAT, ON THAT IN A VERY EASY TO FOLLOW EASY DIGEST FASHION, WHICH IS SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE ARE, HAVE BUSINESS TO CONDUCT. IT'S, THEY DON'T HAVE TIME FOR A DEEP DIVE AND FOR VETTING OF TREE CONTRACTORS. SO I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND JUMP THE GUN FOR ABOUT A WEEK, UM, AND SAY THAT THAT'S TURNED OUT EXCELLENTLY AS WELL. SO I'M REALLY PROUD OF THE WORK WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED. THANK YOU FOR THAT THOROUGH OVERVIEW FROM LIAISING WITH OTHER CITIES FOR OUR TPO TO NAVIGATING WITH PG E TO HELPING PROPERTY OWNERS WITH STREET TREE CONFLICTS. MAYBE THAT BUILDS INTO A FUTURE STREET TREE AD HOC. CINDY, DO YOU HAVE ANY UPDATES WITH THE PG E UM, AND THEM WORKING WITH PUBLIC WORKS? 'CAUSE WE'VE SEEN THIS ISSUE SURFACE A LITTLE BIT WITH TRIMMING AND PERMITS. DO YOU HAVE ANY UPDATES THERE? YEAH, THE ONLY UPDATE I HAVE IS I TALKED TO KENT CARRUTHERS AND I DID ASK THE QUESTION THAT TERRAN HAD POSED TO ME WAS AT WHAT PERMITS ARE OUT THERE AND THEY HAVE NO PERMITS CURRENTLY. THEY HAVE NOT APPROVED OR ISSUED ANY PERMITS. THEY HAD REQUEST THAT PG E COME BACK WITH THE PROGRAM FOR REVIEW SO THAT THEY CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT ACTUAL WORK THEY'RE DOING. SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE AT. THEY'RE WAITING FOR PG E TO COME BACK WITH THE PROGRAM SO THEY CAN REVIEW IT AND THEN ISSUE PERMITS. BUT CURRENTLY THERE'S NOTHING OUT THERE EXCITING. UH, WELL THEN I'LL OPEN IT UP. UM, WELL FIRST, DO WE HAVE ANY CLARIFYING QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE MEMBERS ON THAT UPDATE? ALRIGHT, WELL THEN I'LL OPEN THE ITEM. I JUST WANNA SAY GOOD JOB. YEAH, I WANT TO JUST WANNA THANK TRU FOR A GREAT SUMMARY. UH, AND I HOPE MOST OF THE STUFF GETS INTO THE CITY DETAILS FOR TREE PLANTING BECAUSE THE TIME TO PUT THIS DEEP WATERING SYSTEM INTO THE TREE IS WHEN YOU PLANT IT AND THAT'S NOT HAPPENING. THANK YOU. EXCELLENT. WELL THEN I'LL OPEN THIS ITEM UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AGAIN FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WANNA GIVE COMMENT ON THIS ISSUE. THEY CAN FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD AND BRING IT TO OUR CLERK OR THEY WILL GET THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK ON THE TOPIC. BUT I GOT THE BODY LANGUAGE THAT AGAIN, OUR PUBLIC COMMENTER DOES NOT HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM. SO I WILL MOVE TO THE NEXT PUBLIC HEARING AND MATTER FOR CONSIDERATION, WHICH IS THE FORMATION OF A PLANNING DESIGN AD HOC. UH, SO I'M GONNA HAVE SOME CLARIFYING COMMENTS I'M GONNA READ ON THIS. THIS WAS AN IDEA, UH, THAT CINDY AND I PUT TOGETHER, UH, IN CONJUNCTION WITH SOME DESIRE FOR TREE COMMITTEE TO HAVE INPUT INTO DESIGN REVIEWS FOR PROJECTS COMING BEFORE PLANNING COMMISSION. AND WE WORKED WITH ANDREW TRIPLE, THE CITY PLANNING MANAGER, UH, AND BRIAN O OUR DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, TO TRY TO PUT TOGETHER AN IDEA OF A WAY THAT TREE COMMITTEE COULD HAVE INPUT INTO THAT PROCESS WITHOUT REQUIRING A FULL PRESENTATION FROM A PROPERTY DEVELOPER OR AN APPLICANT WHO WANTS TO DO A PROJECT. AND IT HAS RELEVANCE TO TREES. WE DIDN'T WANT THEM TO HAVE TO COME AND DO A FULL MEETING HERE. AND THAT'S BEEN SOME OF THE RESISTANCE IN THE PROCESS. SO FORMING AN AD HOC GIVES US THE ABILITY TO FORMALIZE SOME STANDARDS OF REVIEW AND AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO REVIEW PROJECTS BEFORE THEY GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION AS AN AD HOC, THEN BRING IT BACK TO THE GREATER COMMITTEE FOR COMMENT FOR FINAL SUBMISSION FOR SOME KIND OF FORMAL FEEDBACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION. I'M ALSO HOPING THIS REDUCES THE AMOUNT OF TIME PLANNING COMMISSION IS STUCK TALKING ABOUT TREES 'CAUSE THEY'LL HAVE ALL OF OUR COMMENTARY AND EXPERTISE ON IT. SO I'M JUST GONNA READ A COUPLE ITEMS HERE, UH, FROM OUR PLANNING MANAGER. SO THE FIRST ONE IS THIS MEETING ITEM IS INTENDED TO DISCUSS THE FORMATION OF AD HOC COMMITTEE RATHER THAN A STANDING COMMITTEE. WE ANTICIPATE THAT THE AD HOC COMMITTEE'S WORK WILL CLARIFY AND DEFINE ROLES AND EXPECTATIONS FOR A FUTURE STANDING COMMITTEE. SO WE SEE THE AD HOC COMMITTEE'S WORK ASSIGNMENT AS DRAFTING GUIDELINES OR CRITERIA TO SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT OF PROJECT DESIGNS THAT ARE MORE ALIGNED WITH THE PURPOSE, INTENT, AND GOALS OF THE CITY'S ADOPTED POLICIES AND REGULATIONS. AS WELL AS THOSE UNDER CONSIDERATION REGARDING TREE SELECTION, PLANTING LOCATIONS AND INTEGRATION WITH PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IN PUBLIC SPACES. THIS IS ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPERIMENT AND OPERATIONALIZE POLICIES UNDER CONSIDERATION TO TEST THEIR ALIGNMENT WITH PURPOSE AND INTENT. NOW WHAT THAT'S SAYING IS THE FIRST FORM OF THIS AD HOC IS REALLY GETTING OUR HEAD WRAPPED AROUND WHAT KIND OF STANDARDS AND CRITERIA WOULD WE PUT TOGETHER TO OBJECTIVELY REVIEW PROJECTS. ON ITEM THREE, WE HAVE AN EXAMPLE. PLANNING CURRENTLY OFFERS, UH, SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW STANDARDS LIKE OUR LANDSCAPE DESIGN STANDARDS, TRASH ENCLOSURE, STANDARDS, PARKING STANDARDS. AND THESE ARE THINGS THAT PLANNING USE TO GAUGE OR OR OFFER ANALYSIS ON A PROPOSED PROJECT. AND THESE ILLUSTRATE THE APPROACH AND CONTENT THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR WHEN WE THINK OF OUR OWN, MAYBE IT'S TREE STANDARDS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THESE STANDARDS REFLECT POLICY AND REGULATIONS APPLICANTS SHOULD BRING [00:25:01] TO THEIR DESIGN WORK. SO THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY I THINK FOR US TO START BEING INVOLVED IN SOME OF THESE PLANNING DESIGN REVIEWS. AND AGAIN, THE WAY THIS WILL START IS AN AD HOC THAT'S FIGURING OUT HOW DO WE REVIEW PROJECTS, WHAT DO WE LOOK AT WHEN IT COMES TO TREES, UM, HOW DO WE STRUCTURE THIS SO IT'S NOT TOO CONSTRICTIVE ON AN APPLICANT OR DEVELOPER, BUT IS GIVING FIRM GUIDELINES ON THE KIND OF TREE DESIGN OUTCOMES WE WANNA SEE. UM, NOW THAT'S MY SPIEL. CINDY, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA ADD ONTO THAT? YEAH, AND I THINK JUST TO CLARIFY, SO THIS AD HOC WOULD BE SHORT TERM, SO PROBABLY THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR TO HELP REVIEW, TO CREATE KIND OF THESE STANDARDS FOR THINGS THAT WOULD BE BROUGHT TO WHAT WE WOULD MAYBE AT SOME POINT STAND UP A STANDING COMMITTEE AND STANDING COMMITTEES ARE DIFFERENT FROM AD HOCS IS THAT THEY'RE A STANDING COMMITTEE AND EVERY YEAR WE WOULD APPOINT SOMEBODY TO STANDING COMMITTEE. SOMETIMES YOU HAVE NO NEED FOR THEM. BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, LIKE, UM, TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE FOR THE RECREATION PARKS AND MUSIC COMMISSION, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A PLANNING ONE, BUT FOR YEARS THERE WASN'T MANY PROJECTS. BUT MORE RECENTLY MAYBE THAT'S NOW IN PLAY, RIGHT? SO THEN YOU'LL GO AHEAD AND HAVE MEMBERS AS PART OF THE STANDING COMMITTEE THAT MISSED SEPARATELY. BUT IN ORDER FOR US TO DO THAT, WE HAVE TO HAVE GUIDELINES FOR WHICH TREE ITEMS ARE BROUGHT TO THAT STANDING COMMITTEE. THAT'S WHAT THIS AD HOC IS DOING. OKAY. SO TO CLARIFY, I HOPEFULLY THAT MADE SENSE. I, I GUESS MY, I I, I AGREE WITH THE GOAL AND MY ISSUE HAS BEEN THAT TREES OR PLANTING OF TREES OR SPACE FOR PLANTING OF TREES IS NOT DEALT WITH UNTIL YOU GET TOO SPAR AND IT'S TOO LATE. UH, TREES TAKE SPACE. THEY HAVE A LOCATION THAT REQUIRES SPACE. ONCE, ONCE A PROJECT GETS ENTITLEMENT, THERE'S NO REASON TO MOVE ANYTHING. AND SO I, I THINK IT'S GOTTA BE EARLY ENOUGH TO IMPACT THE SITE PLAN AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE ADVANTAGE OF STARTING WITH THESE STANDARDS IS IN SPEAKING WITH PLANNING STAFF. THERE MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR STAFF TO EVENTUALLY USE THESE STANDARDS AS WELL WHEN PROJECT APPLICATIONS COME IN. BUT THAT'S GREAT FEEDBACK. BILL, DID YOU HAVE UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, TARYN? UM, TWO QUESTIONS. NUMBER ONE IS, UM, WHEN WE SET A SUNSET LIMIT FOR THE AD HOC, UM, I'M WONDERING IF WE SHOULD BUILD A LITTLE CUSHION IN BECAUSE WE HAVE A RISK PERHAPS OVER THE HOLIDAYS OF A MEETING GETTING CANCELED. THAT'S ONE QUESTION. SO IF WE CAN CONSIDER THAT AND HAVE AN APPROPRIATE SUNSET. 'CAUSE PEOPLE GET BUSY OVER THE HOLIDAYS ANYWAY, UM, SO IT MIGHT BE HARD FOR THEM TO PULL IT TOGETHER. UM, SECOND QUESTION WOULD BE FOR THIS AD HOC, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IT'S NOT, MAYBE IT'S NOT SO MUCH PLANNING EXPERTISE OR DESIGN EXPERTISE NEEDED. UM, IT'S MORE ADMINISTRATIVE OR OPERATIONS THINKING THAT'S NEEDED FOR IT. IS THAT MAYBE THE CASE, IT MIGHT BE INTERESTING TOO, OR A GOOD IDEA TO DISTINGUISH WHAT WE NEED WITH AN AD HOC VERSUS WHAT WE WILL NEED FOR THE STANDING COMMITTEE? I THINK YOU'RE GONNA WANT BOTH. SO YOU'LL WANNA MIX ON THE AD HOC BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HELP, UM, REVIEW AND RESEARCH STANDARDS FOR WHICH PROJECTS ARE HELD AGAINST. SO YOU'RE GONNA WANNA HAVE SOMEBODY WHO UNDERSTANDS PROCESS AS WELL, WHO UNDERSTAND MAYBE TREE SPECIES LOCATION, UM, THAT KIND. SO A MIX I WOULD, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND. YEAH, AND THAT'S WHERE IT'S INTERESTING, WE'RE STARTING WITH A PROCESS OF DESIGNING STANDARDS, WHICH IS A VERY UNIQUE EXERCISE AND ANDREW DID PROVIDE SOME EXISTING CITY STANDARDS WE USE FOR DESIGN. AND THERE COULD BE PROBABLY SOMETHING IN HERE WHERE WE RESEARCH OTHER CITY STANDARDS AND WE START TO FIGURE OUT WHAT ARE CITIES THAT HAVE GOOD TREE OUTCOMES, WHAT STANDARDS DO THEY HAVE FOR NEW PROJECTS? SO I THINK TARYN RAISES A GOOD POINT ABOUT SUNSET JUST BECAUSE WE KNOW HOW HARD IT'S SOMETIMES, I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF COMMITTEES ENDING IN DECEMBER, THAT'S KIND OF A GOOD TIME TO REVIEW THAT. IS IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE IT BE LIKE A FEBRUARY, LIKE A SIX MONTH WINDOW OR WHAT DO YOU THINK CINDY? I THOUGHT THAT, I THINK THAT WORKS FINE. I JUST THINK I DIDN'T WANT IT TO GO UNENDED, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. AND I, MAYBE THIS IS JUST A LITTLE BIT WITH THE STREET AD HOC FOR THE STREET TRADE, NOTHING AGAINST THE MEMBERS, BUT WE JUST WITHOUT GIVING IT A TRUE SUNSET, YOU KNOW, UM, IT MAKES IT HARD. SOMETIMES YOU JUST DON'T MEET KIND OF LIKE THE DEADLINE. SO I'M NOT OPPOSED TO YOU GUYS SAYING LET'S, YOU KNOW BY FEBRUARY, BUT IT COULD COME JANUARY. WE NEED SOME MORE TIME TO RESEARCH. WE WANNA EXTEND IT ANOTHER X AMOUNT OF MONTHS. AND I THINK THAT'S ACCEPTABLE TOO, RIGHT? AS LONG AS THAT WE HAVE THE PURPOSE AND WE'RE STILL WORKING TOWARDS IT, THEN THE AD HOC IS STILL USEFUL. YOU CAN EXTEND THAT [00:30:01] TIME PERIOD. OKAY, WELL THAT'S AN ITEM, A TALKING POINT TO TRY TO BUILD SOME CONSENSUS ON ANY OTHER CLARIFYING QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE MEMBERS? JUST A QUESTION. MY SENSE IS, UM, WHATEVER THE, THE COMMITTEE CAN ACHIEVE IS BECAUSE THE STAFF CAN'T ACHIEVE IT. SO MY, MY CONCERN WITH SUNSETTING IS THAT WHATEVER THAT INPUT IS NEEDS TO CONTINUE AFTER IT'S SUNSETTED. AND, AND THAT'S EITHER A STAFF POSITION OR AN EDUCATIONAL PROCESS OR SOMETHING. SO I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE SUNSET ONLY THAT WE'RE DOING THIS, THE STAFF ISN'T ABLE TO DO IT, THEY DON'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TREES OR TREE PLANTING OR GOOD GOOD DESIGN AND WE'RE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF ADD THAT LAYER OF CONTROL. WELL, AND I THINK THAT IS KIND OF BAKED IN HERE THAT THE PURPOSE OF THIS INITIAL AD HOC IS TO FORMULATE STANDARDS WITH THE GOAL BEING AT THE END OF THIS AD HOC, WE WILL ACTUALLY BE FORMING A STANDING SUBCOMMITTEE OF TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT WON'T HAVE A SUNSET POTENTIALLY THAT WILL JUST BE A STANDING COMMITTEE THAT WORKS WITH PLANNING TO REVIEW PROJECTS AND HAVE INPUT LIKE YOU'RE SAYING. SO I'M HOPING THAT THE WAY WE'VE CONSTRUCTED THIS KINDA GETS TO THE HEART OF THAT AS WELL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE MEMBERS? BECAUSE OTHERWISE I WILL OPEN THIS ITEM FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. SO I'LL SAVE. CAN I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION? YEAH, PLEASE. UM, ONE THING THAT CAME UP IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH HEATHER ABOUT DEVELOPMENTS THAT, UM, HAVE TREES PUT IN AND THEY'RE PART OF A, UM, UM, CONDITIONS APPROVAL FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT, LET'S SAY IT WAS LIKE 15, 20 YEARS AGO, BUT THEN THEY CUT DOWN THEIR TREES LATER AND PLANT A FERN THERE OR SHRUB THERE INSTEAD OF A TREE, UM, PER HEATHER THAT BECOMES AN ENFORCEMENT ISSUE. DO YOU, WHAT ARE, WHAT IS THE THINKING ON WHETHER A PLANNING AD HOC OR STANDING COMMITTEE WOULD HAVE IN ITS SCOPE LOOKING AT THINGS LIKE ENFORCEMENT MECHANISMS? THANK YOU. I WILL, I WILL JUST SAY FOR ITEMS LIKE THAT, I THINK WE CAN DISCUSS IT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SUBCOMMITTEE. 'CAUSE I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA IS IF WE FORM A STANDING SUBCOMMITTEE, WHAT TOPICS CAN THEY LIAISON WITH PLANNING? BUT CINDY, JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, IF YOU WANT TO CHIME IN ON THAT, WOULD THAT BE POSSIBLE WHEN WE FORM A SUBCOMMITTEE TO DO DESIGN AND POTENTIAL FOLLOW UP? IT SEEMS LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT TOPIC WITH ENFORCEMENT, BUT YOUR OPINION ON THAT? YEAH, I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE ENFORCEMENT IS ALWAYS BAKED INTO ITS MUNI CODE OR IZO OR SOMEWHERE, RIGHT? SO YOU'RE TOUCHING CHANGING CODE AND HOW THAT IS, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW THINGS ARE ENFORCED. SO IT'S SOMETHING I HAVE TO TALK TO PLANNING ABOUT IF I'M BEING HONEST BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT WOULD WORK AS AN AD HOC M MAYBE IT DOES GO BACK TO EBERLY'S COMMENT EARLIER ABOUT ENCOURAGING REPORTING OR SOMETHING OF TREES GETTING CUT DOWN BECAUSE WHAT I'M SPECIFICALLY THINKING ABOUT IS OLD ELM VILLAGE, I THINK THEY CUT DOWN AROUND A DOZEN MATURE CANOPY TREES AND WHAT YOU SEE THERE NOW IS LIKE BASICALLY A FERN. UM, SO IF THERE WERE A MECHANISM THAT THEN SOMEBODY CAN REPORT, THEN IT GETS INVESTIGATED PER WHATEVER CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL THERE WERE ON THAT PROJECT IN THE FIRST PLACE. AND THEN A A, UM, A CHAIN OF WORK. YEAH, AND I THINK THAT, I THINK IT SITS MORE IN OUR TPO AND HOW WE PROTECT TREES AS OPPOSED TO THE FULL DEVELOPMENT. BUT SOME OF YOU MAY OR MAYBE ONLY BILL WAS ON THE COMMITTEE AT THE TIME WHEN, UM, I BELIEVE IT WAS AVALON RANCH DEVELOPMENT, THEY HAD A REDWOOD TREE THAT WAS PART PROTECTED AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT IN ONE OF THE BACKYARDS. AND THE HOMEOWNER CAME BACK TO PLANNING AND REQUESTED TO REMOVE IT AND PLANNING BROUGHT IT BACK TO THE TREE COMMITTEE TO REVIEW. AND THE REMOVAL REQUEST WAS DENIED BY, WELL OUR RECOMMENDATION WAS TO DENY THE REQUEST, RIGHT? SO, AND I, YOU KNOW, I'D HAVE TO TALK TO PLANNING BECAUSE IN THAT DEVELOPMENT, WHILE IT'S A SINGLE FAMILY HOME DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS BROUGHT BACK BECAUSE THAT TREE WAS A PREEXISTING TREE AND WAS REQUIRED AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT TO BE SAVED, RIGHT? BUT I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, TARYN, IS THAT AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, YOU'RE REQUIRED TO PLANT X AMOUNT OF TREES. THEY PLANTED THEM AND JUST LIKE WITH THE ELM, THEY REMOVED THE TREES BUT THERE WAS NO RECOURSE ON THE BACK END TO SAY, WELL OKAY, YOU REMOVED THEM, ARE YOU REPLACING THEM? RIGHT? SO I HONESTLY THINK THAT'S MORE PROBABLY A CODE THING THAN IT IS A DESIGN REVIEW STANDARD, WHICH IS WHAT THIS AD HOC IS. I DON'T KNOW THE LIMIT. CAN I, CAN I THINK ABOUT, CAN I PONDER ON THAT A LITTLE BIT? YEAH. AND, [00:35:01] AND JUST TO BUILD ON THAT A LITTLE BIT, WE DO SEE REPORTS. SO THAT IDEA OF CHECKING TO MAKE SURE SOMEONE MET THEIR CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, THERE IS AN EXISTING PATH FOR THAT WITHIN PLANNING. SO WE'VE HAD PEOPLE REPORT OF COLORS OF BUILDINGS AND OTHER CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL THAT WERE POTENTIALLY VIOLATED ON PROJECTS. AND ACTUALLY THE, UH, BURDEN OF INITIATING THAT IS VERY LOW. UH, AS A COMMUNITY MEMBER OR AS INDIVIDUAL JUST MEMBERS OF THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, YOU COULD ALWAYS REPORT A PROJECT TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND SAY, I DON'T BELIEVE THEY FOLLOWED THEIR CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. AND THEN STAFF WILL REVIEW THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL AND WILL RESPOND TO THAT. SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD TOPIC TO BRING UP THOUGH. AND WE CREATING THIS SUBCOMMITTEE, IS THERE MORE WE CAN DO WITH PLANNING RIGHT NOW WE'VE ENVISIONED IT AS KIND OF A DESIGN REVIEW PROCESS JUST TO KEEP IT SCOPE CONFINED AND MAYBE A LITTLE MORE PRODUCTIVE. 'CAUSE THERE ISN'T TOO MUCH. UM, BUT I THINK IT'S WORTH DISCUSSING AND THAT'S A GOOD REMINDER TO EVERYBODY THAT IF YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT REPLACEMENT RATIOS OR CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, YOU CAN ALWAYS REPORT THAT TO PLANNING. UM, WELL I WILL OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. I ALREADY GOT THE SIGNAL FROM OUR PUBLIC ATTENDEE THAT THEY WILL NOT BE GIVING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. UH, SO I WILL MOVE RIGHT TO CLOSING PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT ISSUE. SO NOW TO BRING BACK THIS DISCUSSION OF AD HOC, I THINK WE'RE READY TO SELECT AD HOC MEMBERS. SO IN HEARING THIS DISCUSSION, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN BEING PART OF THIS PROCESS, PLEASE, UM, LET US NOW VOLUNTEER. I, MY BACKGROUND IS LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE AND URBAN PLANNING AND MY EMPHASIS IS MORE ON PLANNING THAN ON HORTICULTURE. SO I, I'M, I'M NOT THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT AT HOWARD IS, BUT I'M MORE INTERESTED IN THE QUALITY OF DESIGN THAT WE'RE ACHIEVING IN OUR PROJECTS. I'D BE GLAD TO PARTICIPATE WITH THAT FRAME OF MIND. MARYANNE, PLEASE. UH, ONE OF MY ROLES AS A, UM, OPERATIONS MANAGER FOR THE RECREATION AND PARK DEPARTMENT WAS THE LIAISON WITH THE CAPITAL DIVISION. AND ONE OF THE MAJOR PROJECTS THAT WE ACCOMPLISHED WAS THE CREATION OF DESIGN STANDARDS FOR ALL OF OUR PARKS. EVERYTHING FROM PLAYGROUNDS TO RESTROOMS TO LANDSCAPING, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. AND THAT INVOLVED TALKING TO ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION OF THOSE FACILITIES, WHICH NO ONE HAD EVER DONE BEFORE . UM, BUT YEAH, WE CREATED DESIGN STANDARDS FOR EVERY CAPITAL PROJECT IN THE CITY, UH, HAVING TO DO WITH REC AND PARK THAT ARE STILL BEING USED TODAY. SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE CREATION OF STANDARDS AND YOU KNOW, THAT WHOLE PROCESS. SO. EXCELLENT. SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE TWO GREAT POTENTIAL CANDIDATES, BUT PLEASE BILL . UH, WELL I DON'T THINK THIS IS MY EXPERTISE, ALTHOUGH I HAVE A LOT OF INTEREST IN, UH, BEAUTIFULLY DESIGNED NEW DEVELOPMENTS WITH LOTS OF TREES AND SHADES. SO, UM, WHAT I JUST ENCOURAGE THIS GROUP TO DO IS TO REALLY SEEK BEST PRACTICES ALSO FROM OUTSIDE OF OUR TALENT WITHIN THIS TEAM TO, TO MAYBE REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE TO LOOK AT OTHER, UH, UH, COMMUNITIES AS YOU STATED THAT HAVE DONE THIS WELL. UM, AND THEN ALSO WHEN IT GETS DOWN THE ROAD AND THAT THERE MAY BE A, A SUBCOMMITTEE THAT'S REVIEWING ACTUAL DEVELOPMENTS THAT THE RIGHT EXPERTISE IS THERE BECAUSE IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, REALLY IMPORTANT TO TO, UM, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S SOMEWHAT BEHIND THE SCENES, I GUESS IT WOULD BE, IT WOULDN'T BE IN, IN A A SETTING LIKE THIS. LIKE AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WHEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWS DEVELOPMENTS MAY I AM IMAGINING THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND SORT OF PROVIDING SOME FEEDBACK IN THE BACKGROUND THAT THAT, THAT THERE'S PROPER EXPERTISE ON THAT GROUP. YEAH, ONE THAT'S A GREAT CLARIFYING POINT AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS MORE WHEN WE ACTUALLY FORM THE SUBCOMMITTEE. BUT ONE OF THE IDEAS IS FOR THAT GROUP TO DO THAT LIAISING WITH SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS AND ULTIMATELY BRING FORWARD THEIR REVIEW AND ANALYSIS TO OUR COMMITTEE, NOT HAVE THE APPLICANT HAVE TO BE HERE OR OTHER STAFF. AND THEN WE'RE ABLE TO GIVE INPUT THAT WAY. BUT, UM, A, A GREAT POINT AND WE CAN HAVE THREE MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE. UM, SO KAREN EBERLY, BILL, IF ANY OF YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO BE ON IT. WELL, I CERTAINLY DON'T FEEL QUALIFIED, BUT I CAN THINK OF SOME COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT I THINK WOULD BE EXCELLENT. THEY, I'M NOT SURE THAT, UM, I WOULD BE THE BEST FIT, BUT UM, ARE YOU TAKING NOMINATIONS? I NOMINATE YOU DARREN ? WELL ACTUALLY I WAS NOT, JUST BECAUSE I'M ALREADY ON [00:40:01] PLANNING COMMISSION. I THINK I GET A VOICE ON THESE PROJECTS, SO I WANTED TO ALLOW FOR OTHER MEMBERS OF TREE COMMITTEE, UH, TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY AS WELL. UM, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT NOMINATION. I WILL POLITELY DECLINE. SO RIGHT NOW WE DO HAVE TWO MEMBERS. UM, CINDY, CAN YOU REMIND ME, DO WE NEED TO TAKE A VOTE OR ANYTHING? I DON'T THINK SO. I THINK IF YOU TAKE A MOTION TO STAND UP THE AD HOC COMMITTEE AND A VOTE ON THE AD HOC WITH THE MEMBERS. OKAY. SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TWO MEMBERS LAST CALL FOR ANYONE ELSE IF YOU WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS. AND JUST REMIND, YOU KNOW, HOWARD IS NOT HERE TODAY AND MAYBE HE'S SOMEBODY THAT MIGHT BE INTERESTED. SO WE COULD ADD A THIRD PERSON IF, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE THAT TODAY. WE COULD SEE WHEN HOWARD'S HERE NEXT WE COULD ASK HIM IF YOU'D LIKE TO BE ADDED. KAREN. UM, I THINK THAT FOR THIS TO SUCCEED WE'RE REALLY GONNA HAVE TO BE SUPER SHARP AND SUPER BUTTONED UP WITH UNDERSTANDING THE PLANNING PROCESS. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE BOTH OF OUR PLANNING COMMISSIONERS IN THIS, AT LEAST IN THE FIRST ONE. UM, SO I'M GOING NOT, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO VOTE FOR, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO DARREN, ROGER AND MARYANNE. OKAY. SO ARE YOU, UH, PUTTING FORTH A MOTION THEN TO FORM THE PLANNING, UH, PLANNING DESIGN AD HOC? SEE, YOU KNOW HOW TO DO THIS STUFF. ? YES SIR. PLANNING DESIGN AD HOC. YES SIR. LET'S SAY WITH MEMBERS, UM, COMMITTEE MEMBER MEMBER LUCCI. COMMITTEE MEMBER MCC WITH A THIRD TO BE DECIDED. THANK YOU FOR THAT. I WILL THINK ON THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF HOWARD WOULD LIKE TO BE INVOLVED AS WELL. UH, SO RIGHT NOW, DOES THAT SOUND ACCURATE? THE MOTION TO FORM THE AD HOC WITH OUR TWO MEMBERS WHO VOLUNTEERED? UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ALL THREE OF YOU. I KNOW HOWARD LIKES, UM, CAN BE INVOLVED, BUT IF YOU REALLY DON'T WANNA DO IT, I UNDERSTAND. UM, BUT UM, YEAH, SO I I DO FEEL LIKE WE, THIS IS A REALLY WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY AND I'D LIKE TO SEE YOU ON IT. DARREN, SORRY TO MAKE YOU DO MORE WORK. DOES ANYONE WANNA MAKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT REMOVING ME FROM THAT MOTION AND THEN WE CAN GET A SECOND ON THAT FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. SO TO CLARIFY, IT SOUNDS LIKE CHAIR KUSON IS NOT AT THIS POINT ACCEPTING TO BE ON THE AD HOC. SO EITHER THE MOTION FAILS OR WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE TWO MEMBERS. CURRENTLY I MOVE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE TWO MEMBERS THAT HAVE ACCEPTED. SO NOW THAT'S THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I JUST MEANT DOES ANYONE WANT SECOND THE MOTION FOR A VOTE? I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. THANK YOU. CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL? VOTE EWING? YES. OBEYED? YES. KUSON? YES. VER YES. MCCURLEY? YES. YES. FERELLI? YES. THANK YOU CHAIR KUSON TO KNOW THAT MAYBE YOU WANNA BRING THIS BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING TO OPEN UP IF WE WANNA ADD A THIRD NUMBER. YES. I THINK THAT'S DEFINITELY WARRANTED. SO WE WILL BRING THIS BACK AT OUR NEXT MEETING. UH, OKAY, SO MOVING THROUGH ITEM FOUR, THEN WE'RE GETTING TO THE FORMATION OF AN ARBOR DAY TREE. ARBOR DAY TREE FESTIVAL. TREE FESTIVAL AD HOC. UM, SO THIS WOULD BE MUCH LIKE WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR. WE'RE JUST STARTING IT EARLIER TO GIVE US MORE TIME TO PLAN. SO I DON'T THINK I NEED TO GIVE AN OVERVIEW. I THINK WE ALL PARTICIPATED AN ARBOR DAY AND KNOW WHAT THE, WHAT THE ASSIGNMENT IS. I GUESS I'LL JUST OPEN IT UP FOR CLARIFYING QUESTIONS, UH, FROM OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS ON THE ARBOR DAY AD HOC. SO MAYBE CAN I START BEFORE YOU DO CLARIFYING QUESTIONS PLEASE? YES. AND GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND. SO OBVIOUSLY LAST YEAR WAS THE FIRST FESTIVAL, TREE FESTIVAL AND IT WAS REALLY GREAT. I WAS REALLY, YOU KNOW, HAPPY TO SEE THE TURNOUT. SORRY WE MISSED YOU. I'M COMMITTEE MEMBER KERLEY AND I KNOW YOU WOULD'VE REALLY LOVED THE EVENT. SO THIS YEAR WHAT THE THOUGHT WAS TO START EARLIER BECAUSE EVENTS TAKE PLANNING AND THEY TAKE TIME. UM, AND I DID TALK TO CHAIR KUSON A LITTLE BIT. I DID TALK TO THE RECREATION TEAM. THEY'RE NOT BEYOND PAIRING WITH US TO MAKE THIS, YOU KNOW, A, A BIGGER EVENT AND HELPING OUT WITH THE MUSIC AND THE FOOD TRUCKS AND TAKING CARE OF THAT LOGISTICS SIDE. THE ONE THING THAT THEY DID ASK IF WE'RE FORMING THE AD HOC IS THAT THE COST TO DO A STAGE AND TO DO LIGHTING AND TECH TECHNICIANS IS QUITE HIGH. SO TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, THE LAST HARVEST PIECE, I THINK THE STAGE AND THE [00:45:01] TECHNICIANS WERE $5,000. SO THEY WERE WONDERING IF THE AD HOC WOULD BE WILLING TO TAKE ON TO SEE IF THEY CAN GET ANY SPONSORSHIPS OR WE DO AN CUE STICK MUSIC SET AND NOT DO A STAGE. SO THOSE ARE TWO THINGS JUST TO CONSIDER AS WE'RE FORMING THIS AD HOC. BUT I DID GO BACK TO 'EM AND THEY'RE WILLING TO PAIR WITH US. SO THEY WOULD KIND OF DO LOGISTICS OF LIKE FOOD TRUCKS AND GETTING THE BAND THERE, THE MUSICIAN AND GETTING THAT CONTRACT IN PLACE. SO OUR PART WOULD BE WHAT TREE RELATED KIND OF EVENT DO WE WANNA HAVE? WHAT TABLING DO WE WANNA HAVE FROM PARTNERS THAT WE WANT TO BE THERE TO DO TREE EDUCATION OR ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION. SO THAT WOULD BE OUR, OUR HALF OF THE, THE FESTIVAL. SO NOT AS MAYBE AS DAUNTING AS THE LAST TIME BECAUSE I KNOW, YOU KNOW, UM, FOOD AND VENDORS AND UM, THAT'S MUSIC IS, IS REALLY HARD TO GET INTO PLACE. SO JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT BIT BEFORE YOU TALKED ABOUT PERFORMING THE AD HOC. UM, THANK YOU. I I CAN'T REALLY HEAR THAT WELL. UM, CAN YOU RUN THROUGH AGAIN ONCE MORE PLEASE? UM, WHAT THE CITY IS PREPARED TO COVER THE COST FOR? YEAH, SO THE RECREATION TEAM WAS WILLING TO GO AHEAD AND HELP US WITH GETTING THE BAND AND SOURCING, YOU KNOW, MUSIC AS WELL AS GETTING ANY FOOD TRUCKS OR ANY OF YOU KNOW, FOOD VENDORS THERE FOR US. SO REALLY THIS AD HOC WOULD BE LOOKING AT SEEING IF THEY CAN GET A SPONSOR IF WE WANTED DO AMPLIFIED AND REALLY MAKE IT LIKE A CONCERT SLASH TREE EVENT. UM, I THINK WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT BRIEFLY LAST YEAR, YOU KNOW, REALLY HAVING LIKE, KIND OF LIKE THIS BIG CELEBRATION. SO, UM, YEAH, SO GETTING THE SPONSORSHIPS AND THEN COORDINATING THE TREE EVENT, RIGHT? AND THAT'S WHAT ARE WE DOING? ARE WE PLANNING TREES? ARE WE GIVING OUT TREES? ARE WE EDUCATING ABOUT TREES? ARE WE MULCHING AROUND TREES? THAT WOULD BE THE AD HOCS MAIN FOCUS AND GIVING US ENOUGH TIME TO GET OUR PARTNERS AND GETTING ON THEIR CALENDAR. SO THEY'LL COME AND TABLE, WHETHER THAT'S REGIONAL PARKS, WHETHER THAT'S THE WATER TRUCK FROM SANTA ROSA, WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THAT IS THAT WE WANT TO BE THERE, I THINK WILL BE AHEAD OF THE GAME OR THEY GET BOOKED OUT FAIRLY QUICKLY. SO THIS WILL GIVE US MORE TIME TO PLAN AND GET PEOPLE KIND OF LOCKED IN TO COME TO THE EVENT. SO THE REC TEAM WILL HANDLE THE NON TREE STUFF? NO, THAT, THAT'S A HUGE LIFT AND I THINK THAT COULD REALLY, UH, MAKE A, FOR A MUCH BIGGER BETTER PRODUCED EVENT FOR DONATIONS. WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT FISCAL SPONSORS, QUICK CLARIFYING QUESTION, WOULD THAT BE REACHING OUT TO BUSINESSES LIKE YOUR FREEDMEN'S AND THINGS LIKE THAT? WOULD THEY BE THEN DONATING DIRECTLY TO THE CITY OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? YEAH, AND WE CAN GET THEM A LETTER. SO, YOU KNOW, THE RECREATION TEAM'S SET UP TO DO THAT. SO WE HAVE, IF YOU, IF THERE'S SOMEBODY THAT'S WILLING TO SPONSOR, WE CAN HELP COORDINATE THAT PART SO THEY'D BE DIRECTLY DONATING TO THE CITY. OKAY. WELL VERY EXCITING AND THANK YOU FOR REACHING OUT TO THEM AND DOING SOME OF THAT LEGWORK. ROGER, JUST ONE, UH, IDEA THAT MIGHT BE ADDED TO THAT. UH, IF WE HAD, IF WE WOULD RAFFLE OFF TREES, FIVE OR 10 TREES, INCLUDING INSTALLATION, SO PEOPLE WOULD HAVE IT, THEY'VE COME THERE FOR THE PURPOSE OF MAYBE THEY WOULD GET A FREE TREE AND FREE INSTALLATION. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CHARGE FOR THE RAFFLE TICKETS OR HOW YOU DO THAT, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE GIVING AWAY SOMETHING AND PLANTING IT FOR SOMEONE WOULD BE A BIG INCENTIVE TO DRAW PEOPLE, YOU KNOW. YEAH. THANK YOU FOR THAT FEEDBACK. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? EVERLY? SO IT'S GONNA BE IN MAY AND AT PRINCE PARK AGAIN, UH, NORMALLY WE'RE RIGHT AROUND EARTH DAY NATIONAL HERBER DAY, WHICH IS THE LAST THURSDAY REALLY OF APRIL. BUT WE ARE NOT TIED TO THAT. WE'VE TYPICALLY DONE THAT. BUT IF THE COMMITTEE WANTS TO PICK A DIFFERENT DATE, WE CAN. IT'S JUST WHAT WE'VE, YOU KNOW, DONE IN YEARS PAST. SO, BUT WE'RE NOT TIED TO IT. UM, AND I KNOW IN THE PAST, LIKE IF WE WERE DOING A TREE PLANTING, IT'S MORE FAVORABLE SOMETIMES TO DO IT WHEN IT'S STILL RAINING. UM, AND PRINCE PARK IS ALSO, NO, IT'S NOT SET IN STONE. I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT MAYBE DOING CITY HALL AND MULCHING THE TREES OUT HERE IN FRONT AND DOING AN EVENT LIKE THAT. UM, BUT REALLY IT'S UP TO THE AD HOC TO HELP KIND OF SUSS THESE THINGS OUT. AND WHAT KIND OF EVENT DO WE WANT TO HAVE? WHAT DO YOU GUYS WANNA SEE? WHAT DO, WHAT EVENT DO WE WANNA DO FOR THE CITY? YOU KNOW, PROVIDING TREES, HAVING AN EDUCATION PORTION, PLANTING TREES, WHAT IS IT? WHAT DO WE WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE? AND THE, THE AD HOC CAN DO SOME OF THAT WORK AND BRING OPTIONS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT FORMALIZING THE EVENT YET. RIGHT. THAT WILL BE A SEPARATE ARBOR DAY DECLARATION. YES. WE'LL ACTUALLY PICK A DAY AND THEN IT'LL GO TO COUNCIL FOR DECLAR, YOU KNOW, PROCLAMATION. AND CINDY, CAN YOU PLEASE CLARIFY WHETHER IT'S POSSIBLE WITH THE AD HOC TO REACH OUT TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS, LIKE OTHER PARK COMMISSIONERS TO, FOR DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHICH PARK TO CHOOSE OR WHICH VENUE TO CHOOSE? CHOOSE? ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF THE AD HOC. OKAY. BEFORE I OPEN IT UP TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? CLARIFYING ITEMS? OKAY, WELL THEN I WILL OPEN THIS ITEM OF THE ARBOR DAY TREE FESTIVAL AD HOC UP [00:50:01] FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. UH, FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC INTERESTED IN GIVING PUBLIC COMMENT. PLEASE BRING YOUR SPEAKER CARDS TO THE FRONT WITH THE CLERK. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE EVER BEEN HERE. I JUST MOVED HERE FIVE MONTHS AGO FROM COLORADO SPRINGS. I KNOW WHAT A SPEAKER CARD IS. WELL YOU CAN, YOU CAN GIVE YOUR UH, THREE MINUTE COMMENT AT THE PODIUM AND THEN AFTERWARDS THERE'S CARDS RIGHT OUTSIDE OF THIS COUNCIL CHAMBER. YEAH. AND THEY HAPPEN TO HAVE SOME HERE. OH, PERFECT. AND YOU CAN FILL THAT OUT AFTER AND SUBMIT IT, UH, TO OUR CLERK. SO YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO MAKE YOUR COMMENTS. JUST TO CLARIFY, WE AREN'T ABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS OR GO BACK AND FORTH. IT'S KIND OF A THREE MINUTE OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO SHARE COMMENTS OKAY. WITH THE COMMITTEE, UH, AND THE CLERK ON THIS TOPIC. SO ON THIS TOPIC, ON THIS TOPIC, THANK YOU. ON THIS ARBOR DAY AD HOC. YEAH. AND PLEASE TELL US YOUR NAME. I'M JUDITH RAY JONES. I'M DEFINITELY AN OUTLIER. I JUST MOVED HERE FROM COLORADO SPRINGS. I'M A GRANDMOTHER. I'M HIGHLY OPINIONATED. I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN MANY ARBOR DAY, UM, CONTESTS, ARBOR DAY EVENTS IN COLORADO SPRINGS. WE ALMOST ALWAYS WORKED WITH SCHOOLS. UM, I MOVED HERE BECAUSE I'M A GRANDMOTHER. MY GRANDCHILDREN LIVE IN MARIN AND I WANTED TO BE CLOSER TO THEM, BUT I'M REALLY INTO CHILDREN'S BOOKS. AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE ALWAYS DID WITH ARBOR DAY IS WE GENERALLY CHOSE ONE OR TWO SCHOOLS. THE CHILDREN HAD DONE A POSTER OR A POEM, UH, WHICH WAS THEN DISPLAYED AND BASED ON THAT ENTRIES FROM THE CHILDREN, WE CHOSE ONE OR TWO ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS. WE GAVE THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL LIBRARY THEIR WONDERFUL CHILDREN'S BOOKS ON TREES. I THOUGHT IMMEDIATELY YOU COULD WORK WITH COPPERFIELD AND HAVE THEM HAVE SPECIAL DISPLAYS ON CHILDREN'S BOOKS ON TREES, AND MAYBE RAISE SOME MONEY AND MAYBE HAVE A SPEAKER WHO WOULD COME AND SPEAK AT COPPERFIELD. 'CAUSE THEY NOTICED THEY DO THAT, THEY DO THAT QUITE OFTEN. UM, AND IT TURNED OUT TO BE A REALLY JOYOUS OCCASION FOR THOSE SCHOOLS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GIVE, UH, TREES TO. AND NORMALLY WE WORKED WITH VARIOUS, UM, STORE, UM, NURSERIES IN TOWN WHO WOULD OFTEN DONATE, UM, SMALL CONIFERS AND THAT THE, THAT THE SCHOOL COULD CHOOSE TO PLANT SOMEPLACE ON THEIR SCHOOL GROUNDS. AND WITH A LOT OF INFORMATION, WE ALSO SUGGESTED TO LOCAL SCOUTS, TROOPS THAT THIS MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT THEY COULD GET A BADGE FOR AND THAT THEY MIGHT WANNA PARTICIPATE AND DO A TREE BADGE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO WE TRIED TO MAKE IT A LEARNING EVENT AND GET STUDENTS ENCOURAGED, ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT TREES. IT WAS A VERY HEARTWARMING EVENT AND IT, AND RESULTED IN TREES BEING PLANTED AND STUDENTS LEARNING MORE ABOUT IT. AND IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, UH, KIND OF EVENT FOR GRANDMOTHERS, UH, TO HAVE CHILDREN PLANTING TREES AND LOVE TREES. YOU HAVE A LOT MORE OPPORTUNITIES HERE BECAUSE YOU HAVE SO MANY MORE TREES. I'M A MASTER GARDENER IN COLORADO. THE GUIDEBOOK FOR MASTER GARDENERS IS LIKE 300 PAGES. I'M TRYING TO BE AN MASTER GARDENER HERE. IT'S LIKE, SO KNOWLEDGE OF YOUR TREES IS, IS VERY DIM FOR ME. BUT THAT'S WHY I CAME TODAY. BUT YOU CAN'T ASK ME ANY QUESTIONS. IS THAT THE, THAT THE RULE WE, YEAH, WE DON'T DO QUESTION AND ANSWER AT THIS PERIOD, BUT YOU'VE MADE A POWERFUL COMMENT, SO THANK YOU. OKAY. CAN I SEND YOU A LIST OF SUGGESTED BOOKS? UH, YES, OF COURSE. OKAY. PLEASE, UH, PLEASE DO SHARE YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION. OKAY. AND YOU CAN ALWAYS EMAIL CINDY OR OUR CITY CLERK WITH INFORMATION FOR TREE COMMITTEE AND WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT. OKAY, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, WELL I'LL BRING IT BACK TO OUR COMMITTEE THEN. FOR ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM BEFORE WE HAVE A MOTION TO FORM THE AD HOC WITH MEMBERS WHO WANT TO STEP UP AND DO THIS, I'LL BRING IT BACK TO COMMITTEE MEMBERS. UM, I'D LIKE A LITTLE SUMMARY, UM, BASED ON FROM THE PEOPLE THAT WERE ON THE AD HOC FOR OR THE INAUGURAL TREE FEST. UM, WHAT SKILLS DO YOU THINK ARE NEEDED? I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL IN PEOPLE SELF-SELECTING OR BEING NOMINATED. I THINK REALLY ANYONE FROM THIS COMMITTEE WOULD HAVE THE SKILLSET REQUIRED, THE BIG LIFT ACTUALLY, UM, OF COORDINATING MUSIC, FOOD VENDORS AND LOGISTICS LIKE THAT. IF THAT IS TAKEN OFF THE PLATE OF OUR COMMITTEE, I THINK SUDDENLY WE DON'T NEED AS MUCH OF THAT NETWORKING SKILLSET. I STILL THINK WE NEED PEOPLE WHO ARE EXCELLENT AT COMMUNICATION, WHO ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT TREES AND LUCKILY EVERYONE HERE IS QUALIFIED. SO, AND AS AN OVERVIEW, UM, I THINK ONLY ROGER WASN'T ABLE TO MAKE IT. WE HAD TREE ACTIVITIES, UH, WE HAD OPPORTUNITIES FOR PARTNERS LIKE RELIEF TO COME IN AND TABLE. UM, AND SO YEAH, HOPEFULLY WE CAN HAVE PEOPLE THAT WILL NOT ONLY GET THOSE SAME COMMUNITY PARTNERS, MAYBE SONOMA COUNTY PARKS INVOLVED, BUT I LOVE THE IDEA OF BRINGING IN POTENTIAL SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND KIND OF BUILDING THE CONNECTIONS WHERE THIS CAN BE THE FOCAL POINT. UM, SO DO I HAVE ANYONE, IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE COMMENTARY, ANYONE WHO'D BE INTERESTED IN HELPING TO PLAN THIS YEAR'S TREE FEST? I DON'T WANNA BE THE FIRST ONE. EVERLY I'LL VOLUNTEER. EXCELLENT. EVER. ROGER [00:55:01] MARYANNE? UH, I CAN, YEAH, I CAN HELP WITH SOME PLANNING AND I, I DEFINITELY WILL BE THERE TO PARTICIPATE AND HELP OUT ON THE DAY OF. CAN I ASK A QUESTION? YEAH. SINCE THIS IS A FESTIVAL AND NOT SOMETHING WE'RE POTENTIALLY GONNA VOTE ON, CAN EVERYBODY PARTICIPATE? IT'S THE FORMATION OF THE AD HOC, THAT'S THE AGENDA ITEM. EVERYBODY CAN PARTICIPATE IN ARBOR DAY, BUT THE PROGRAMMING AD HOC IS WHAT THE AGENDA ITEM IS. SO THIS WOULD BE THE GROUP THAT HELPS PLAN AND PUT TOGETHER THE PROGRAMMING FOR THE FESTIVAL. BUT YES, I EXPECT EVERYBODY SHOULD COME TO THE FESTIVAL. ALL RIGHT. I'M, I'M GONNA REMOVE MY NAME BECAUSE I, WE CERTAINLY NEED YOU THERE DARREN. SORRY. WELL I SHOULD, YEAH, I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE VOLUNTEERED. I WOULD LIKE TO BE PART OF IT. SO AGAIN, FOR ANYONE THAT WANTS TO BE PART OF THE AD HOC TO HELP PLAN THE EVENT, IF WE CAN JUST DO A QUICK RAISE OF HANDS. IT'S OKAY TO HAVE MORE THAN THREE AND WE CAN DECIDE. YEAH, THAT'S TRUE. OKAY. SO FOR NOW IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE, UH, MYSELF, COMMITTEE MEMBER BERTUCCI COMMITTEE MEMBER MCC LANE. SO THEN I GUESS WE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO FORM OUR ARBOR DAY TIVAL AD HOC WITH THOSE THREE MEMBERS. CAN I GET A MOTION? I SO MOVE. AND DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND. ALRIGHT. UH, I'LL LOOK TO OUR CLERK FOR A ROLL CALL. VOTE EWING. YES. OBEYED? YES. KUSON? YES. VERT? YES. KERLEY? YES. BERTELLI? YES. THANK YOU. EXCELLENT. SO NOW WE ARE MOVING FROM [COMMITTEE COMMENT] PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION TO COMMITTEE COMMENT. AND THIS IS AN OVERVIEW OF TREE RELATED ACTIVITY OR LIAISONS FROM OTHER CITY COMMITTEES OR COMMISSIONS. UH, AND WHY DON'T WE START WITH COMMITTEE MEMBER BERTUCCI AND WE CAN WORK OUR WAY DOWN THE LINE HERE. UM, I JUST WANNA, UM, MENTION THAT MY, MY LAST NAME IS PRONOUNCED BERTELLI. . BERTELLI. I'M SORRY, WHAT? WHAT DID YOU ASK ME ABOUT? UH, ASKING FOR COMMITTEE COMMENT. SO JUST UPDATES. OH YEAH. UH, FROM MANY. UM, NO, I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY. OKAY. WELL THEN, UH, RIGHT COMMISSION DIDN'T MEET LAST MONTH. YEAH, WE DIDN'T HAVE A MEETING. ALRIGHT, WELL THEN I JUST GOT AN EDUCATION ON YOUR LAST NAME THEN . UM, COMMITTEE MEMBER MC. I HAVE A QUESTION. , SOMEONE MENTIONED THERE'S A NUMBER YOU CAN CALL FOR IF THERE'S A STREET TREE THAT NEEDS ATTENTION OR, UH, WHO, WHO HAS THAT NUMBER OR WHAT IS THAT? THAT'S A DREAM. IT'S WHAT, WE DON'T HAVE SUCH A NUMBER, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED. YEAH, BECAUSE I, I SAW A TREE RIGHT OUTSIDE OF THE UBER OPTICAL ON KENTUCKY THAT WAS, IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS FAIRLY NEWLY PLANTED. I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE A COUPLE MONTHS, BUT IT WAS, IT WAS WILTED AND LACKING WATER AND THERE'S NO IRRIGATION BAGS OR ANY SYSTEM, SO I, I CALLED HEATHER, HEATHER HINES, SO I HAD NO, NOBODY ELSE TO, UH, NO KNOWLEDGE OF WHO ELSE TO CALL. BUT WHEN YOU SEE THOSE THREE, THAT'S PRETTY, UH, UH, IMMEDIATE ATTENTION. IT'S NOT GONNA LAST ANOTHER WEEK, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT NUMBER. NO, IT IS A GREAT IDEA. DID YOU HAVE ANY UPDATES FROM PLANNING COMMISSION? OKAY. UM, COMMITTEE MEMBER COOVER, UH, I THINK JUST WAS THINKING A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THE EDUCATION COMPONENT OF THE TPO THAT WE, THAT COULD BE A BIG PART OF HOW WE WANNA REPOPULATE SOME OF THE CANOPY IN OUR TOWN IS TO REALLY GET, GET OUR COMMUNITY MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT ALL THE BENEFITS OF TREES AND, AND, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE LIST OF, UH, GREAT THINGS THAT THEY BRING. BUT, UM, I, I GUESS I, I DON'T REMEMBER, REMEMBER TALKING A LOT ABOUT THAT, UH, AMONGST OURSELVES HERE. SO I WANTED TO PLANT THE SEED ON EDUCATION, TRY TO FIGURE OUT SOME OF THE BEST, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME BEST PRACTICES THERE. SOMEBODY HAD, I WAS KIND OF BATTING THE IDEA AROUND, MENTIONED SOCIAL MEDIA. WHAT IF THE TREE COMMITTEE, UH, HAD A SOCIAL MEDIA PRESENCE AND COULD POST, YOU KNOW, GREAT LITTLE IDEAS ABOUT TREES. AND, UH, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S AN APPROPRIATE THING FOR THIS COMMITTEE. UH, BUT, UH, MAYBE, MAYBE SOMETHING WE COULD GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM CINDY ON IF THERE'S UH, OR [01:00:01] IF, UH, IF SOCIAL MEDIA WOULD EVER BE SOMETHING LIKE WE COULD HAVE AN AD HOC TO LOOK INTO THAT. UH, YEAH, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS I'LL HAVE TO GET CLARIFICATION ON, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW OF ANY OTHER CCBS THAT HAVE SOCIAL MEDIA, AND I'M JUST, I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT WOULD WORK WITH, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE BROWN ACT REQUIRES THAT WE NOTICE, AND SO WHEN YOU'RE INTERACTING WITH THINGS ARE ON THE TREE PURVIEW, I THINK IT'D BE ONE THING IF WE POSTED SOMETHING OR IF CITY STAFF POSTED SOMETHING FROM THE TREE COMMITTEE, BUT FOR AN AD HOC TO ACTUALLY INTERACT WITH THE PUBLIC IN THAT WAY, I THINK WE MIGHT BE IN VIOLATION, BUT I'LL, I'LL GET CLARIFICATION TO SEE WHAT'S POSSIBLE. YOU KNOW, LIKE WHAT WE COULD DO IF THAT'S THE MEDIUM THAT WE WANNA USE OR WHAT, WHAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE WITHOUT BEING IN VIOLATION OF BROWN ACT. OKAY, GREAT. THANKS. UM, YEAH, UH, I THINK, UH, YEAH, THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD, UH, DISCUSSION EARLIER TODAY. I'M REALLY INTERESTED TO HEAR ABOUT THE NEIGHBOR FEEDBACK IN YOUR, IN, IN MIDTOWN AND TO HEAR ABOUT TWO DOZEN TREES AND THERE'S A FEW SQUARE BLOCKS. THAT'S EXCELLENT. THAT'S REALLY GREAT. AND, UM, UH, YEAH, SO A LOT OF GOOD PROGRESS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT UPDATE. AND I'M THINKING TOO, THAT IDEA OF SOCIAL MEDIA, MAYBE WE COULD FORM AN AD HOC THAT PRODUCES EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS OR RESEARCHES EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS IN SOME FASHION. AND OF COURSE WE CAN ALWAYS DO THAT INDIVIDUALLY. BUT YEAH, GOOD IDEA TO PUT OUT THERE. UH, I'LL GIVE A QUICK UPDATE FROM PLANNING COMMISSION. AT OUR LAST MEETING, WE REVIEWED, UH, THE UPCOMING OR THE PROPOSED CREEKWOOD DEVELOPMENT. WE REVIEWED A DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT. UH, AND SO THAT IS NOW MOVING TO A FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL. AND THAT'S A DEVELOPMENT OVER, UH, NEAR CASA GRANDE ON THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN. BUT THAT'S MY ONLY UPDATE COMMITTEE MEMBER OBEYED. UM, I WOULD JUST, UH, UM, COMMENT THAT, YEAH, I DO GET QUESTIONS FROM PEOPLE LIKE, WHERE CAN I REPORT A TREE AND I DIRECT THEM TO THE PUBLIC WORKS. UM, I THINK IT'S LIKEOR REPORT AN ISSUE ON PUBLIC WORKS, BUT THAT DOES, UM, UH, BRING TO MIND, UH, QUESTIONS IN THE PAST, AND I HAVEN'T LOOKED RECENTLY, BUT I DID HAVE A REALLY HARD TIME FINDING OUR TREE TECHNICAL MANUAL, UH, A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO. AND, UM, SO IT'D BE GREAT IF AT SOME POINT WE CAN GET A DISCUSSION ON OUR AGENDA TO ADD SOME OF THESE RESOURCES TO THE TREE COMMITTEE PAGE. SO IT'S A EASY JUST POINT PEOPLE TO IT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT'S A SECONDARY LINK THAT PIPES OVER TO PUBLIC WORKS REPORT AN ISSUE, YOU KNOW, BUT IT'S CALLED ON OUR TREE COMMITTEE PAGE, YOU KNOW, REPORT A TREE CONCERN. UM, AND THEN WE HAVE THINGS LIKE THAT TREE TECHNICAL MANUAL IF IT'S NOT ALREADY LOADED UP THERE. AND THEN, UM, SOME OTHER RESOURCES LIKE, LIKE THE, UM, UH, THE ARBOR DAY ONE THAT HAS, UH, INFORMATION ON HOW TO ENSURE YOUR TREES ARE GETTING WATERED DEEP DOWN TO THE ROOTS SO THAT THEY DON'T STAY ON THE SURFACE AND THEN CAUSE PROBLEMS WITH THE SIDEWALK. SO THAT'S MY ONLY COMMENT. THANK YOU. AND JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT REALLY QUICK, CINDY, WHEN PEOPLE HAVE IDEAS FOR POTENTIAL WEBSITE CHANGES, WE DON'T NEED TO FORM AN AD HOC FOR EVERYTHING. IS IT APPROPRIATE TO SEND THOSE TO ME AND YOU FOR, TO SEE IF WE HAVE AN ACCUMULATION THAT COULD WARRANT AN AGENDA ITEM OR, YEAH, AND ABSOLUTELY. I'LL TELL YOU, UM, IT WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO GO ABOVE US FOR THE CCB WEBSITES AND WHAT INFORMATION'S PROVIDED ON THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL CONSISTENT FOR ALL THE CCBS. SO I THINK IT'S JUST A BROADER DISCUSSION IN THAT SENSE. BUT YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. YOU DON'T HAVE TO CREATE AN AD HOC THAT CAN COME TO THE CHAIR AND TO MYSELF WITH QUESTIONS OR, YOU KNOW, FEEDBACK FOR SOMETHING THAT WE WANNA KIND OF SEE HAPPEN. THAT'S GREAT. I ALSO HAD FORGOTTEN, SORRY. UM, I ATTEND OTHER CITY MEETINGS AND COUNTY MEETINGS. UM, I ALSO SIT ON THE, UH, SONOMA COUNTY LOCAL INTEGRATED WASTE MANAGEMENT TASK FORCE. UM, OTHER COMMITTEES DO SOMETHING, UM, NOT ALL OF THEM, BUT I'VE NOTICED THEY DO SOMETHING WITH THEIR COMMENTS, THEIR COMMITTEE COMMENTS IS, IT INCLUDES IDEAS FOR FUTURE AGENDA MEETING, AGENDA ITEMS. AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS PRETTY COOL BECAUSE IT WAS, UM, A WAY TO KIND OF CAPTURE WHAT'S PERCOLATING UP AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMITTEE TO DO, UM, SOME ADDITIONAL INVESTIGATION AND POTENTIALLY SOME GOOD WORK. SO I, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO KIND OF THROW THAT IDEA OUT HERE FOR PEOPLE TO ADD TO THEIR COMMENTS, FUTURE AGENDA ITEM IDEAS. THANK YOU. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. COMMITTEE MEMBER EWING? UH, YEAH, SO, UM, AS PART OF THE STREET TREE LIST, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A LINK TO THE TREE TECHNICAL MANUAL AND TREE PLANTING STANDARDS AND INFORMATION ABOUT DEEP WATERING AND WHICH TREES ARE ABSOLUTELY [01:05:01] GOING TO REQUIRE REGULAR IRRIGATION. AND I JUST WANNA MAKE THE COMMENT THAT I SPENT MOST OF MY SUMMER IN THE WET CLIMATES, THE EAST COAST, WHERE TREES LITERALLY GROW LIKE WEEDS AND THEN YOU COME BACK HERE AND JUST SEE AS THE TREE I MENTIONED THAT I PLANTED AND FOUND HAD DIED, YOU KNOW, THAT HOW MUCH NURTURING TREES NEED AND ESPECIALLY AS THE CLIMATE GETS HOTTER AND DRIER. AND THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I LOOKED AT WITH THE STREET TREE LIST WAS TREES THAT WILL SURVIVE WITH TOTAL NEGLECT. UM, BUT YEAH, WE ALL WANT THIS, YOU KNOW, LOVELY LEAFY CANOPY, BUT FOR THE MOST PART IT'S NOT REALLY FEASIBLE. I MEAN, WE DO HAVE SOME SPECIES LIKE SYCAMORES THAT HOWARD LOVES SO MUCH THAT, THAT DO PROVIDE THAT, BUT YOU KNOW, WE LIVE IN A VERY ARID AND INCREASING THE HOT CLIMATE, UNFORTUNATELY. SO, WELL, I THINK WE'RE ALL LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT STREET TREE LIST AND WE CAN HAVE A LOT OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS. UH, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. THE FINAL UPDATE, I FORGOT AT PLANNING COMMISSION WE REVIEWED THE GENERAL PLAN LAND USE FRAMEWORK, AND IT'S FOR EVERYBODY IN THE PUBLIC. EVERYBODY ON THIS COMMITTEE SHOULD KNOW THAT OUR GENERAL PLAN HAS KIND OF PUT OUT THE BIGGEST FRAMEWORK THAT WE'RE GONNA BE WRESTLING WITH, WITH WHICH IS THE FUTURE OF LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT IN PETALUMA. UH, SO THAT'S AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW@PLANPETALUMA.ORG, WHICH IS THE GENERAL PLAN WEBSITE. ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO GO LOOK AT THAT FRAMEWORK BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION AND UH, YEAH, WE NEED TO GET A SHARED VISION OF THE FUTURE, BUT NOW I'LL PASS IT OFF TO, [STAFF COMMENT] UH, STAFF COMMENT. SURE. I THINK MY MAJOR KIND OF UPDATES ARE THAT RELIEF IS MOVING FORWARD WITH THEIR FALL PLANS. AND SO PART OF WHAT, UM, TARYN WAS KIND OF UPDATING US ON, AND THEY ARE, THEY'VE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL WITH THEIR RESIDENTIAL TREE PROGRAM. UM, THEY HAVE OVER 300 APPLICANTS THAT WANT TREES. SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S HUGE FOR AN AREA THAT HAD ALMOST NO TREES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THAT'S A HUGE SUCCESS. UM, THEY'RE TRYING TO MEET WITH EVERYBODY TO KIND OF LAY OUT WHERE THOSE TREES WOULD GO. AND UM, THEY WERE ALSO SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING A GRANT. SO THERE WILL BE A GROUP OF AMERICORPS, UM, AMERICORPS THAT WILL BE HERE THIS FALL THAT WILL BE HELPING PLANT THE TREE. SO THAT WAS ALSO SOME REALLY, YOU KNOW, A BIG WIN IN SUCCESS. SO I WAS REALLY HAPPY TO HEAR THIS FALL. YOU WILL SEE SOME PLANTINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING WITH THE ACORNS. SO THE ACORN PLANTING PROGRAM IS GONNA BE GOING FULL FORCE AS WELL. SO THEY'RE MOVING, UM, THEY'RE MOVING FULL FORCE AHEAD ON THE, THE USDA $1 MILLION GRANT. AND WHAT WAS PART OF THAT SCOPE? SO THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF HAPPENING, BUT THE RESIDENTIAL PROGRAM IS REALLY EXCITING BECAUSE WE PLAN IT IN PUBLIC SPACES, BUT WE HADN'T YET BEEN ABLE TO TACKLE HOMES. AND REALLY WE KNOW THAT'S WHERE, WHERE WE NEED TO BE IS WE NEED TO GET TREES IN PEOPLE'S YARDS WHERE THERE ARE NONE, UM, AND IN THE ROW. SO THAT WAS ALSO EXCITING BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF THOSE ROW TREES THAT WERE NOT, YOU KNOW, THEY JUST HADN'T BEEN REPLANTED. SO THIS WILL GIVE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET SOME TREES AND HOPEFULLY THEY'LL BE ABLE TO KEEP EXPANDING THAT PROGRAM. RIGHT. UM, IT IS A LOT BECAUSE INDIVIDUALLY MEETING WITH 300 PLUS PEOPLE AND LAYING OUT AND GETTING THE TREES ESTABLISHED, IT'S A HUGE COMMITMENT. SO REALLY THANKFUL TO RELIEF FOR DOING THAT AND TAKING THAT ON. UM, BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT, NOT A WHOLE LOT OF UPDATES ON THE TREE FRONT FROM THE CITY. AT THIS POINT I GAVE THE PG E UPDATE, SO THERE'S NO UPDATE, WHICH IS PROBABLY A GOOD UPDATE AT THIS POINT AS I HEAR MORE NEWS I'LL SHARE WITH THE COMMITTEE. THANK YOU, CINDY. UM, AND WITH THAT, OUR MEETING IS ADJOURNED. UH, LAST REMINDER, GENERAL PLAN, LAND USE, I MENTIONED THAT ON SEPTEMBER 21ST AND 25TH WILL BE THE ONLY CITY MEETINGS WHERE WE WILL HAVE THE PUBLIC THERE TO GIVE INPUT. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I MAKE THAT PSA SEPTEMBER 21ST AND 25TH. TARYN AND TARYN, CAN YOU PLEASE DUMB DOWN WHAT THE HECK THAT IS THE LAND USE THING FOR OUR ENTIRE CITY. WHAT IS THIS? YEAH, AND I DON'T WANNA SIDETRACK THIS FOR A TREE COMMITTEE, BUT THIS IS A DISCUSSION OF, UH, POTENTIAL ZONING CHANGES, AREAS TARGETING FOR INTENSIFICATION OR DE INTENSIFICATION FOR OUR FUTURE. THESE INCLUDE AREAS AROUND LIKE THE NORTH RIVER, AROUND DOWNTOWN PETALUMA BOULEVARD, NORTH AND SOUTH. IT'S A REALLY BIG CONVERSATION THAT WE NEED ALL OF THE COMMUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN. SO YES, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT PSA, UM, TO TRY TO GET PEOPLE INVOLVED ON SEPTEMBER 21ST AT THE FAIRGROUNDS. AND ON SEPTEMBER 25TH, I'LL HAVE TO DOUBLE TAKE CHECK THAT DATE, BUT IT'S ON THE CITY WEBSITES AND THERE'S A BANNER, UH, RIGHT OUTSIDE CITY HALL HERE. SO I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE. UH, BUT CINDY, THANK YOU FOR STAFF COMMENT. THAT IS MY FINAL PSA. AND WITH THAT, OUR MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 4:39 PM . * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.