* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:03] OKAY. GOOD [CALL TO ORDER] EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PETALUMA TRANSIT ADVISORY COMMITTEE. TUESDAY, OCTOBER 15TH. THE, UH, MEETING IS CALL TO ORDER. CLERK, CAN YOU TAKE A ROLL CALL? ABRAMS RO. HERE. HEEL HERE. QUINT. HERE. CAR HERE. UH, VASQUEZ IS A PIERRE OVER HERE. . OH MY NAME PLATE HERE. WHERE, WHERE IS IT'S ONE OVER. OH, IT'S ONE OVER. I GOT IT. THANKS. IS THAT I'M USUALLY GOOD AT TRADE. UH, WE HAVE A QUORUM, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU. OKAY. FIRST UP TONIGHT. UH, [GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT] GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON ITEMS OF PUBLIC INTERESTS THAT ARE WITHIN THE CITY, WITHIN THE TRANS ADVISORY COMMITTEE'S SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION, AND ARE NOT LISTED ON THE CURRENT AGENDA. PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON. DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF PERSONS WISHING TO ADDRESS A COUNCIL. TIME WILL BE ALLOCATED IN EQUAL SHARE SOLELY, NO MORE THAN 20 MINUTES. UM, HAVE WE, SO THE, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT IS OPEN. DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? THANK YOU. AND I DO NOT BELIEVE WE RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING. MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. I, ONE, YOU CAN COME ON UP. SO WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A SPEAKER CARD THAT'S UP FOR NUMBER FOUR. IT'S NOT FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. OKAY. WE'LL, WE'LL GET YOUR CARD. IF YOU, UH, WOULD LIKE TO, UH, OFFER GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS, UM, PLEASE DO SO. I WAS, I'M FINE. I WAS ACTUALLY ASKED TO DO THIS COMMENT AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING, BUT I THINK YOU GUYS NEED TO HEAR IT. ALSO, I HAVE BEEN PERIODICALLY WRITING THE FREE TRANSIT JUST TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING. AS THE CHAIR OF THE SENIOR ADVISORY COMMITTEE, I NEED TO KNOW IF SENIORS ARE USING IT AND HOW IT'S BEING UTILIZED. AND I'VE BEEN TALKING TO PEOPLE ON THE BUS AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU ONE STORY. I TALKED TO A GENTLEMAN ON THE BUS, MY SPANISH IS NOT GREAT. HIS ENGLISH WAS NOT GREAT, BUT WE MANAGED TO COMMUNICATE AND I ASKED HIM, HAVE YOU RIDDEN A BUS BEFORE? YEAH, BUT IT'S EXPENSIVE. AND I SAID, HOW IS IT NOW THAT IT'S FREE? AND HE SAID, AND IT WAS ALL I COULD DO TO BITE MY TONGUE AND NOT CRY. THIS MONTH. I GOT TO BUY MY KIDS BACK TO SCHOOL STUFF FOR THE FIRST TIME BECAUSE I SAVED $50. THAT'S WHAT YOUR FREE TRANSIT IS DOING. SO YOU NEED TO HEAR THAT. YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT IT'S REALLY CRITICAL IN PEOPLE'S LIVES. THANK YOU. UH, SEEING, UH, SEEING NO OTHER, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS, UH, THIS CLOSES THE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT AND WE'LL CONTINUE WITH THE AGENDA, UH, STARTING WITH THE PRESENTATIONS, UH, STAFF IF YOU'D LIKE TO. YEAH. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. GOOD. UH, EVENING EVERYONE. JARED HALL, TRANSIT MANAGER, CITY OF PETALUMA. GREAT TO SEE YOU AGAIN. AND SO THIS NEXT ITEM [PRESENTATIONS] IS A PRESENTATION THAT WAS REQUESTED AT, UH, THE PRIOR MEETING TO GO IN A BIT MORE DEPTH TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE RIDERSHIP AND TRACKING METRICS THAT WE USE FOR THE TRANSIT SYSTEM OVER TIME. SO WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO PASS IT OFF TO CARLY, WHO HAS A PRESENTATION FOR YOU. OKAY. CAN EVERYONE SEE MY SCREEN? YES. OKAY, COOL. SO MY NAME IS CARLY SPENCER. I'M THE TRANSIT PLANNER, ONE FOR PETALUMA TRANSIT. AND TODAY I WANTED TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON OUR RIDERSHIP BASED ON OUR NEW FAIR FREE DATA. UM, BUT FIRST I'LL GIVE A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE FAIR FREE PROGRAM FOR ANYONE WHO'S NOT FAMILIAR WITH IT. SO, PETALUMA TRANSIT HAS IMPLEMENTED SEVERAL FAIR REDUCTION PROGRAMS THROUGHOUT THE YEARS, UM, AS A WAY TO ENCOURAGE THE COMMUNITY TO TAKE THE BUS AND REMOVE FINANCIAL BARRIERS, UM, OF PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. AND SOME OF THESE PROGRAMS INCLUDE PROVIDING DISCOUNTS TO STUDENTS OR GROUPS LIKE VETERANS, UM, PARATRANSIT CLIENTS AND S-R-J-S-R-J-C STUDENTS. AND WE'VE ALSO OFFERED FREE SERVICE [00:05:01] ON CERTAIN HOLIDAYS OR CITY EVENTS. UM, THE SUCCESS OF THESE PROGRAMS HAVE MADE IT CLEAR TO US THAT WE WOULD SEE A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN RIDERSHIP AND PRODUCTIVITY IF OUR ENTIRE SYSTEM WAS FREE. SO AS OF JULY 1ST OF THIS YEAR, PETALUMA TRANSIT, ALL PETALUMA TRANSIT SERVICES, INCLUDING PARATRANSIT, HAVE BEEN FREE. AND IN THIS PRESENTATION, I'M GONNA GIVE AN UPDATE ON HOW, UM, WE SEE THAT IMPACTING OUR SYSTEM. SO BEFORE WE GET INTO IT, I WANNA GIVE A QUICK OVERVIEW OF SOME OF THE METRICS I LOOK AT TO DETERMINE HOW THE SYSTEM IS RUNNING. AND I WON'T GO INTO ALL THESE IN THE PRESENTATION, BUT THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE THINGS I LOOK AT IN GENERAL. SO OVERALL RIDERSHIP PRODUCTIVITY ON TIME PERFORMANCE, UM, BOARDINGS PER HOUR AND MILE VEHICLE REVENUE HOURS AND MILES, UM, PRE COVID RIDERSHIP AND ROUTE POPULARITY. UM, SO WE'LL START WITH OUR FIXED ROUTE SYSTEM. UM, SO THIS IS OUR OVERALL FIXED ROUTE RIDERSHIP BY FISCAL YEAR. UM, BUT WITH THIS CHART, WE'RE ONLY LOOKING AT JULY THROUGH SEPTEMBER BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY DATA WE HAVE RIGHT NOW FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR. UH, SINCE OUR BIGGEST DROP IN RIDERSHIP IN FY 21 FROM COVID, WE'VE SEEN A STEADY INCREASE IN RIDERSHIP. AND, UH, AS OF SEPTEMBER 30TH, WE ARE SERVING 90% OF OUR PRE COVID RIDERSHIP. UM, BECAUSE THIS DATA IS ONLY TAKING THE FIRST FEW MONTHS OF THE FISCAL YEAR INTO ACCOUNT, I WOULD EXPECT THAT WE REACH OUR PRE COVID RIDERSHIP SAMPLE, UM, BY THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR. AND FOR THAT SAMPLE WE'RE USING, UM, FISCAL YEAR 2019. SO LOOKING A BIT CLOSER AT OUR FIXED ROUTE. UH, FAIR FREE DATA. I MADE THIS CHART COMPARING OVERALL RIDERSHIP FROM THIS YEAR TO LAST YEAR. AND OVERALL, WE'VE HAD A 23% INCREASE OF RIDERSHIP FROM FY 24 TO FY 25, AS YOU CAN SEE, IN JULY, WHICH IS WHEN THE PROGRAM STARTED. UM, JULY HAD THE BIGGEST INCREASE HERE. AND THIS IS GREAT TO SEE BECAUSE WE USUALLY HAVE A LOW RIDERSHIP IN THE SUMMER, WHICH LEADS ME TO BELIEVE THAT WE WERE REALLY ABLE TO GET THE WORD OUT ABOUT THE FAIR FREE PROGRAM AND PEOPLE ARE USING IT. UM, NOW SINCE SCHOOL ISN'T IN SESSION IN JULY AND MOST OF OUR RIDERSHIP COMES FROM STUDENTS, IT MADE ME WANNA LOOK A LITTLE BIT CLOSER AT THE DEMOGRAPHICS TO SEE WHO'S ACTUALLY TAKING THE BUS AT THIS POINT. UM, SO LOOKING AT RIDERSHIP ORGANIZED BY AGE GROUP, ADULT RIDERSHIP ACTUALLY HAD THE BIGGEST INCREASE OUT OF ALL OF OUR AGE GROUPS WITH THE LAUNCH OF FREE FARES. AND THEY'RE MAKING UP 46% OF OUR RIDERSHIP IN THE MONTHS OF JULY THROUGH SEPTEMBER. UM, THE SAMPLE OF DATA WAS TAKEN PARTIALLY DURING THE SUMMER, SO I WOULD EXPECT TO SEE YOUTH MAKING UP MOST OF OUR RIDERSHIP WITHIN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. BUT SEEING ADULT RIDERSHIP INCREASE SO MUCH REALLY SHOWS LIKE HOW SUCCESSFUL THE FAIR FREE PROGRAM IS BECAUSE ADULTS WERE THE ONLY AGE GROUP AT THAT POINT, NOT GETTING A DISCOUNT, UM, BEFORE WE LAUNCHED FREE FARES. I ALSO WANNA NOTE THAT SINCE LAUNCHING, UM, FREE FARES, WE'RE COLLECTING AGE GROUP DATA A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY. SO BEFORE WE WERE CALCULATING RIDERSHIP BASED ON FARES AND PASSES, BUT NOW WE ASK OUR DRIVERS TO MAKE THEIR BEST GUESS ON PASSENGER AGE, BUT WE STILL BELIEVE THAT THIS DATA DEPICTS AN ACCURATE VIEW OF OUR RIDER DEMOGRAPHICS. UM, BUT WE DO PLAN ON DOING A SURVEY IN THE FUTURE TO CONFIRM THIS DATA. AND THE SURVEY WILL ALSO INCLUDE MORE INFORMATION, UM, SUCH AS WHO'S A NEW RIDER, AN EXISTING RIDER. AND THIS WILL GIVE US A BETTER IDEA OF HOW THE FAIR FREE PROGRAM IS SERVING THE COMMUNITY. SO NEXT I WANTED TO LOOK AT THE SYSTEM WIDE PRODUCTIVITY. AND THIS SHOWS US HOW MANY PASSENGERS WE HAVE PER REVENUE HOUR, WHICH TELLS US HOW EFFICIENTLY OUR SERVICE IS RUNNING OVER TIME. AND IT'S PRETTY SIMILAR TO OUR RIDERSHIP CHARTS. UM, OUR PRODUCTIVITY IS SLOWLY INCREASING SINCE THIS BIG DECREASE IN FY 21. UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'VE ALMOST REACHED OUR PRE COVID GOAL OF 17 PASSENGERS PER HOUR. AND I PREDICT THAT WE'LL REACH THAT GOAL BY THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR. WE THINK THAT ABOUT 20 PASSENGERS PER HOUR WOULD BE A GOOD INDICATOR OF A PRODUCTIVE SYSTEM. UM, IN ORDER TO REACH THAT NUMBER. WE PLAN ON INCREASING SERVICE, UM, ON MORE OF OUR POPULAR ROUTES AND REVISITING CHANGES WE CAN MAKE ON ROUTES THAT AREN'T PERFORMING AS WELL. AND THAT WOULD BRING ME TO THE NEXT CHART, WHICH IS SHOWING OUR ROUTE POPULARITY. UM, THIS CHART'S A REALLY CLEAR INDICATOR OF WHAT'S WORKING IN THE SYSTEM AND WHAT'S NOT. UH, ROUTES TWO AND 11 COMBINED MAKE UP 50% [00:10:01] OF OUR RIDERSHIP, WHICH IS WHY WE WANNA ADD MORE FREQUENCY TO BOTH OF THESE. SO THEY'RE RUNNING AROUND LIKE EVERY 15 MINUTES. AND ON THE OTHER HAND, ROUTE 10 MAKES UP ABOUT 1% OF OUR RIDERSHIP, WHICH IS A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE OF A ROUTE WE WANT TO CONSIDER MAKING CHANGES TO, TO BETTER SERVE THE COMMUNITY. UM, SO NOW I WANNA LOOK AT THE PARATRANSIT RIDERSHIP DATA. SO WE'RE SERVING 60% OF OUR PRE COVID RIDERSHIP AS OF SEPTEMBER 30TH. UM, SO PARATRANSIT ISN'T MAKING AS FAST AS A RECOVERY, AND WE BELIEVE THERE'S MORE APPREHENSION TO USING THE SERVICE AFTER LOCKDOWN. UM, BUT SINCE WE ARE REQUIRED TO COMPLETE ALL PARATRANSIT REQUESTS, UM, IT'S HARD TO PINPOINT THE EXACT REASON PARATRANSIT HASN'T RECOVERED AS WELL AS FIXED ROUTE. UH, WE ARE SEEING A BIG UPTAKE IN PARATRANSIT APPLICATIONS SINCE THE LAUNCH OF FREE FARES AND BECAUSE THESE PASSENGERS ARE GETTING A MUCH BIGGER DISCOUNT THAN THE FIXED ROUTE PASSENGERS ARE GETTING, I WOULD EXPECT TO SEE PARATRANSIT RIDERSHIP INCREASE SIGNIFICANTLY THROUGHOUT THIS YEAR. AND THEN LOOKING A LITTLE BIT CLOSER, UM, AT OUR THREE MONTHS OF FREE FARES, WE'VE HAD ABOUT A 19% INCREASE OF RIDERSHIP COMPARED TO LAST YEAR AT THIS TIME. AND LASTLY, I WANTED TO TAKE A LOOK AT PRODUCTIVITY FOR PARATRANSIT. UM, PRODUCTIVITY IS THE SAME THING AS BOARDINGS PER HOUR, WHICH TELLS US HOW EFFICIENT THE SYSTEM IS RUNNING. UH, SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS, PREVIOUS GRAPHS I'VE SHOWN, PARATRANSIT IS MAKING A SLOW RECOVERY WITH AN AVERAGE OF TWO PASSENGERS PER HOUR. WHILE IN FY 2019, WE WERE SERVING ALMOST THREE PASSENGERS PER HOUR, WE'RE THINKING THREE TO FOUR PASSENGERS PER HOUR WOULD BE A GOOD INDICATOR OF A PRODUCTIVE SYSTEM. SO OUR GOAL WOULD BE TO REACH THOSE LEVELS. UM, AND LIKE I SAID, I DO EXPECT TO SEE A RAPID INCREASE IN RIDERSHIP AND PRODUCTIVITY IN THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO AS THE COMMUNITY LEARNS ABOUT THAT. PARATRANSIT IS FREE NOW. UM, AND BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY SEEING SUCH A STEADY INCREASE IN PARATRANSIT APPLICATION SUBMISSIONS, DOES ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR FIXED ROUTE OR PARATRANSIT DATA? MM-HMM. . SO I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS, BUT, UM, I'M CURIOUS WITH THE RIDERSHIP, IF THERE'S ANY DATA THAT, THAT YOU HAVE THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO, UM, SORT OF LAYER IN POPULATION. I KNOW POPULATION IS GENERALLY MEASURED DURING THE CENSUS, WHICH IS EVERY 10 YEARS. UM, BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT HOW MUCH OUR POPULATION CHANGE, UH, IMPACTS RIDERSHIP. YEAH, LIKE KIND OF COMPARING POPULATION TO LIKE WHO'S WRITING THINGS LIKE THAT. WELL, NOT NECESSARILY, UM, DEMOGRAPHIC GROUPS. YEAH. BUT JUST THE, YOU KNOW, IS IT, IS IT AN INDICATION? IS RIDERSHIP, DID RIDERSHIP NOT REBOUND AFTER COVID BECAUSE MAYBE WE HAVE FEWER PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY, IS SORT OF WHERE I'M GOING WITH THAT IN GENERAL. YEAH. IT'S NOT SOMETHING I HAVE RIGHT NOW, BUT IT'S SOMETHING I CAN GET YOU FOR SURE. OKAY. AND, UH, MR. CHAIR, I MAY, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DO LACK LOOK AT ANNUALLY WHEN WE, UM, TRACK OUR RIDERSHIP AND OTHER METRICS. WE REPORT BOTH MONTHLY AND ANNUALLY TO SOMETHING CALLED THE NATIONAL TRANSIT DATABASE OR NTD. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO REPORT ON IS A POPULATION OF PETALUMA. AS WE GET UPDATED FIGURES AS ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT LATER IN THE AGENDA OF THE TITLE SIX PLAN, I WAS LOOKING AT THE POPULATION, IT SHIFTED FROM ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO. IT WAS ABOUT 60,500, APPROXIMATELY TO ABOUT 59,500 APPROXIMATELY. SO A VERY MINOR DECREASE IN MY OBSERVATION. I THINK THAT HAS A IMPACT ON THE RIDERSHIP, BUT A VERY SMALL ONE AT THAT SCALE WITH SUCH A SMALL PERCENT OF POPULATION CHANGE THAT OCCURS YEAR TO YEAR. SO THERE'S SOME SHIFT ON IT, BUT I WOULD SAY PROBABLY BIGGER FACTORS, THINGS LIKE GOING FAIR FREE, ADDING NEW SERVICES, MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS TO TRANSIT LINES ARE REALLY THE THINGS THAT WOULD CAUSE THE BIGGER SHIFTS IN BROADER SHIP TRENDS. SURE. YEAH. ALL ALL OF THAT MAKES SENSE. I WHERE I COULDN'T HELP IT, BUT GO, UH, IN MY THINKING WAS, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR COMMUNITY OVER THE PAST FIVE, SIX YEARS, THE, UM, YOU KNOW, HOME OWNERSHIP OR THE COST OF, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE COST OF LIVING HAS REALLY HAS INCREASED TREMENDOUSLY. AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, FROM A POPULATION SHIFT, IF THERE, IF, IF, UH, IF THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE LEAVING THE COMMUNITY, I, MY INDICATION OR MY MY THINKING WOULD, WOULD SUGGEST THAT IT MIGHT BE AT THE INCOME LEVELS THAT WE SERVE WITH TRANSIT. [00:15:02] UM, ALTHOUGH IT IS JUST A, A GUESS ON MY PART AND THAT'S WHY I WAS WONDERING IF THERE'S A, ANY DATA TO, TO SPEAK TO THAT. BUT I MEAN, I WILL SAY THAT IN PETALUMA, THE TWO BIGGEST COSTS THAT YOU HAVE ARE HOUSING. AND I THINK HOUSING HAD BEEN NUMBER ONE NOW SURPASSED BY TRANSPORTATION BEING NUMBER ONE. SO THOSE ARE ONE OR TWO MM-HMM. , OF COURSE THE HOUSING PIECE OF THAT PUZZLE IS A BIT HARDER TO SERVE. YOU KNOW, IT'S HARDER TO BUILD A HOUSING TERM IN THE SHORT TERM, SO THE COST GOES UP EVEN MORE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S GREAT WITH FAIR FREE IS WE COULD MORE EASILY ADJUST THE TRANSPORTATION RELATED ASPECTS OF THAT COST. AND SOME OF THE COMMENTS WE HEARD DURING PUBLIC COMMENT SHOWING HOW THAT CAN HAVE A REAL IMPACT ON PEOPLE'S DAY-TO-DAY EXPENSES IS PROVIDING THE TRANSIT PIECE FOR FREE TO LOWER THE TRANSPORTATION COST AT LEAST. YES, SIR. FRED? UM, I, I WAS LOOKING FOR A LITTLE CLARIFICATION. I THOUGHT ONE OF THE SLIDES WAS SHOWING THAT THERE WERE THREE BOARDING PEOPLE PER HOUR, HOUR MORNING. YEAH. THAT WOULD BE THE, THE PARATRANSIT BOARDING PER HOUR. YEAH. SO PARATRANSIT, THIS IS, I WOULD SAY THIS IS LIKE A PRETTY NORMAL, UM, BOARDINGS PER HOUR FOR PARATRANSIT. SO THIS IS NORMAL OR THIS PERRAN THIS IS A, THIS PARA ITSELF? YEAH. ALRIGHT. AND THEY, IN PARA TRANSIT THEY MAKE RESERVATIONS, CORRECT? YES. SO I KNOW THERE'S SOME THAT DON'T SHOW UP. UM, IS IT A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE ON THE AVERAGE THEY'LL MAKE IT AND THEN THEY JUST AREN'T AVAILABLE IF THINGS HAVE CHANGED? YEAH, SO WE TRACK A COUPLE DIFFERENT THINGS. UM, LIKE NO SHOWS, SO IF THE DRIVER SHOWS UP AND THE PERSON'S NOT THERE, UM, CANCELS, CANCELED RIDES, LATE CANCELS, I BELIEVE. UM, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THAT'S ANOTHER THING I CAN LOOK INTO AND GET MORE INFORMATION ON. AND THEN THERE ARE THOSE WHO CALL IN MAYBE LATE OR OR JUST CALL IN AND SAY, WE DON'T NEED A AFTER ALL. YEAH, EXACTLY. THINGS LIKE THAT. I JUST 2.7. USUALLY THERE'S ONE, JUST ONE ERROR PENCIL ON THE ROAD AT A TIME, WHETHER YOU HAVE TWO, UH, I CAN DOES THAT. YEAH. OKAY. , I, I, I DON'T DO THE NUMBERS SIDE, BUT I DO THE ELIGIBILITY SIDE OF PARATRANSIT. UM, AND SO WE TYPICALLY WILL HAVE LIKE THREE OPERATORS AT OUR HIGHEST TIME. SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT PARATRANSIT, IT IS DOOR TO DOOR SERVICE, WHICH IS WHY WE CAN'T SEE THIS HIGH PRODUCTIVITY THAT YOU'D SEE IN SOMETHING LIKE THE FIXED ROUTE. UM, I WILL SAY ACROSS THE BOARD, 'CAUSE WITH SOME OF THE QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ON CALLS WITH OTHER AGENCIES, THIS IS ACTUALLY NOT UNCOMMON, THIS NOT, NOT RETURNING TO REGULAR RIDERSHIP. UM, ANECDOTALLY THE BELIEF IS THAT IT, IT'S BECAUSE THEY FOUND OTHER WAYS TO GET PLACES DURING COVID. RIGHT. YOU DO STILL HAVE TO HAVE THEM AVAILABLE IN CASE A CALL COMES IN. SO YOU CAN'T HAVE THEM RUNNING OFF ON ANOTHER ROUTE ANYWHERE. RIGHT, EXACTLY. SO, BUT I WOULD SAY YES, THESE NUMBERS ARE YEAH. AND YOU HAVE TO BOOK AHEAD OF TIME. UM, WHAT IS LIKE THE MINIMUM AMOUNT? SO WE'LL ALWAYS CHECK. TYPICALLY WE SUGGEST THREE TO SEVEN DAYS IN ADVANCE FOLKS TO BOOK, UM, THE DAY BEFORE THEY CAN DO IT. AND THEY CAN EVEN CHECK SAME DAY AS WELL. IT'S JUST, WE TEND TO HAVE LIMITED AVAILABILITY ON THE SAME DAY. YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANYTHING ELSE? A QUICK CLARIFICATION? UM, A QUICK CLARIFICATION BECAUSE YOU HAVE THREE CATEGORIES. SENIORS, ADULTS, AND YOUTH. WELL, IS YOUTH LIKE ZERO TO 18 OR SOMETHING? YEAH, IT INCLUDES YOUNGER, YOUNGER CHILDREN. IT'S NOT JUST, I MEAN, YOUTH, WE, YOU KNOW, USUALLY IT'S OLDER KIDS, BUT YEAH. AND THE REASON I'M ASKING IS BECAUSE IF, UM, IT'S FREQUENTLY, I FREQUENTLY SEE ON THE BUS, ESPECIALLY THE ONES GOING UP AND DOWN MCDOWELL UM, PARENTS OR GRANDPARENTS WITH CLUSTERS OF, OF CHILDREN. I KNOW IT'S USED TO THE HEALTH CENTER QUITE A LOT. THE BUSES ARE FOR SOME, SOME OF THE FAMILIES IN THE CLUSTERED HOUSING, UH, CLOSE TO, UM, THE TRANSFER STATION. UM, SO I JUST, I WAS JUST WONDERING THAT CHILDREN ARE INCLUDED IN THOSE COUNTS. THAT'S CORRECT. YOUTH IS CONSIDERED FIVE TO 18. YEAH. OKAY. ANOTHER, UM, JUST A CURIOSITY. UM, SO, UM, PARATRANSIT DID I, UH, GET, I, UH, YOU, YOU MIGHT NEED TO CORRECT ME ON THIS, BUT IT'S 60% OF PRE COVID IS THAT, AND SO, BUT IN THE LAST THREE MONTHS IT'S UH, IT, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S MORE, UH, USE OF PARATRANSIT NOW THAT IT'S FREE. IS THAT YES, THAT'S CORRECT. THERE'S BEEN A 19% INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR. YEAH. AND I'M, I'M WONDERING IF THAT'S ALSO, UM, IF IT DOESN'T TELL US SOMETHING ABOUT THE DEMOGRAPHICS [00:20:01] OF OUR SENIOR POPULATION, UM, AND OUR POPULATION OF FOLKS WITH, UM, DISABILITIES OR, UH, YOU KNOW, WHO IN OTHER WAYS MIGHT FIND NOW THAT PARATRANSIT IS MORE AVAILABLE TO THEM WHEN IT'S FREE? JUST, IT PARTLY, IN FACT, IN RESPONSE TO YOUR QUESTION, I MEAN, IT'S A SEGMENT OF THE POPULATION WHERE THEY SEE WHERE WE'RE SEEING CHANGE. I THINK IT'S REAL CHANGE. I MEAN, IT'S TOO EARLY TO TELL. UM, BUT IT'S INTERESTING. YEAH, YEAH. YEAH. I THINK, UM, IN, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT, BY THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, WE'LL HAVE LIKE A BETTER PICTURE OF HOW MM-HMM. FAIR FREE IS LIKE REALLY AFFECTING THE SYSTEM. MM-HMM. . BUT THIS IS KIND OF A GOOD LIKE PRECURSOR TO SEE HOW IT'S GOING. YEAH. THANK YOU. I THANK YOU. I ALWAYS APPRECIATE DATA. UM, AND UH, I THINK SOME OF WHAT YOUR DATA SHOW IS THAT THERE WAS AN UNMET NEED OUT THERE FOR TRANSIT AND THAT HAVING BOTH OF THESE SYSTEMS BE FAIR FREE HAS KIND OF PULL WHAT WE CALL PULLED PEOPLE OUTTA THE WOODWORK . OKAY. AND IN ADDITION TO MEETING THE NEEDS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY TAKING THE TRANSIT SO THAT THEY COULD ACTUALLY SHIFT THEIR USES OF THEIR INCOME TO SOME SOMETHING ELSE, WHICH IS ALSO, UM, AN, AN IMPORTANT OUTCOME. AND SO WHEN YOU CREATE YOUR SURVEY IT, YOU MIGHT TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO ASK QUESTIONS THAT, UM, TEASE THAT OUT. UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT WERE YOU USING BEFORE? DID YOU KNOW ABOUT IT BEFORE? WAS IT TOO EXPENSIVE BEFORE? HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO, UH, SEE SAVINGS OF ANY KIND BECAUSE OF IT? I'M NOT REALLY SURE HOW THE QUESTIONS WOULD BE ASKED YEAH. WOULD BE WORDED, BUT THAT MIGHT BE INTERESTING, UM, TO KNOW WHAT THE KIND OF IMPACT WAS FROM THE PEOPLE WHO, BOTH FROM THE PEOPLE WHO ARE USING IT MORE NOW BECAUSE IT'S FREE. UM, BUT ALSO PEOPLE WHO WEREN'T USING IT. UM, UH, AND NOW ARE, IT'D BE INTERESTING TO KNOW WHAT THEY WERE DOING BEFORE THEN. UM, AND IF, IF ANYTHING, YEAH, I COMPLETELY AGREE. AND THAT'S THE PERFECT THING TO DO FOR THE SURVEY TO REALLY FIND OUT LIKE, ARE THESE NEW PEOPLE TAKING THE BUS? UM, IS IT THE SAME PEOPLE? THEY'RE JUST TAKING IT MORE LIKE REALLY LIKE FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON, ERIC. SO I THINK A LOT OF WHAT HAS BEEN SAID IS, IS, IS WONDERFUL THAT WE SEEM TO BE AT A POINT RIGHT NOW WHERE WE'VE MOVED PAST THE PANDEMIC AND WE'RE JUST KIND OF ONLY GOING UPWARD, WHICH IS WHAT WE NEED. BUT, UM, ONE OF THE DATA POINTS THAT, UM, I'D LIKE TO APPRECIATE LOOKING AT, AND I DON'T KNOW, IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE HARDER TO FIND, BUT WHERE DID THESE, UM, PASSENGERS FROM BEFORE GO DURING THE PANDEMIC AND WHY WE'RE NOT SEEING THEM COME BACK? I MEAN, IT WAS ALLUDED TO THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE OTHER MODES THAT PEOPLE FOUND, BUT MAYBE WE, WE CAN LOOK INTO IF THEY TOOK ALTERNATIVES IN TERMS OF CARPOOLING OR BIKE RIDING TO WHERE THEY NEEDED TO. YEAH. BUT IF THAT'S PRESENT, I'D LIKE TO SEE IT. I WILL SAY ONE THING, UM, OUR YOUTH RIDERSHIP, UH, IS ABOUT HISTORICALLY IS ABOUT LIKE 60%, UM, OF OUR TOTAL RIDERSHIP. SO, YOU KNOW, DURING COVID WHEN SCHOOL WASN'T IN SESSION, THAT WAS A REALLY BIG REASON FOR THE DROP, UM, IN OVERALL RIDERSHIP. BUT THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, SOME OTHER FACTORS OF PEOPLE FOUND LIKE DIFFERENT WAYS TO GET AROUND. SO THAT COULD BE SOMETHING WE ASK IN THE SURVEY AS WELL. OKAY. I GOT A COMMENT. YEAH, I JUST WANNA BRIEFLY ADD ONE MORE COMMENT TOO TO A LITTLE BIT ON THIS FOR PARATRANSIT. UH, WE ARE ALSO ENCOURAGING THEM TO USE BIG BUS SERVICE. SO EVEN WHEN SOMEBODY MIGHT CALL IN FOR US AND SAY, HEY, I WANNA USE PARATRANSIT. A LOT OF IT IS ASSESSING WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE AND MAYBE ROUTE TWO OR 11 ACTUALLY MEETS THAT NEED. IT'S MORE OF A COMMUNITY. WE CAN GET MORE FOLKS ON THE VEHICLE. AND I, I, I'M NOT SAYING ONE'S GOOD AND ONE'S BAD ONE'S, YOU KNOW, BUT WE WANT FOLKS TO BE ABLE TO TRY BOTH. SO IT'S NOT A PARA GETS A LITTLE CONFUSING, RIGHT? 'CAUSE WE, WE MIGHT NOT SEE INCREASES, BUT THAT COULD ALSO BE A, A GOOD INDICATOR THAT, THAT OUR FIXED ROUTE SERVICE IS MEETING THEIR NEEDS FOR THE MAJORITY OF THEIR TRIPS. MM-HMM. , WHICH IS A LOWER COST PER HOUR, WHICH IS A GOOD THING, RIGHT? UM, I THINK IT ALSO PROVIDES A SENSE OF COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE ON THE BUS WITH A, A GOOD MIX OF DEMOGRAPHICS, IT'S A NICE EXPERIENCE, UM, TO ALSO BE PART OF THE COMMUNITY. SO I JUST WANNA PUT THAT BECAUSE WE WORK REALLY HARD ON TRAVEL TRAINING, MAKING SURE PEOPLE KNOW HOW TO RIDE THE BUS IF THEY CAN. I MEAN, I ALSO JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT DURING THE PANDEMIC PE PEOPLE WEREN'T WORKING . [00:25:01] UM, SO, UM, THAT'S A A REASON. YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD POINT. WAS THAT IT FOR THE PRESENTATION OR IS THERE MORE? I HAVE MORE. OKAY. REALLY EXCITING STUFF. I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT LUMA GO, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE A TON OF DATA 'CAUSE IT'S BEEN LIKE TWO WEEKS, BUT WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT TO TALK ABOUT. UM, SO THE DATA I HAVE, LIKE I SAID, I ONLY HAVE SEPTEMBER 30TH, WHICH IS THE LAUNCH DATE THROUGH OCTOBER 10TH. UM, SO I'M SURE WE'RE GONNA SEE LIKE, CHANGES THROUGHOUT, UM, THE PILOT. BUT I WANTED TO GIVE YOU GUYS AN IDEA OF LIKE HOW IT'S BEEN RUNNING SO FAR. SO THIS CHART SHOWS THE TOTAL COMPLETED TRIPS PER DAY BETWEEN SEPTEMBER 30TH AND OCTOBER 10TH. UM, WE HAD A TOTAL OF 369 COMPLETED RIDES WITH AN AVERAGE OF 3.3 BOARDINGS PER HOUR. AND THE AVERAGE RIDE DURATION WAS ABOUT NINE MINUTES. AND THE AVERAGE PICKUP ETA WAS EIGHT MINUTES. IN THE FIRST TWO WEEKS. WE ALSO HAD 812 ACCOUNTS CREATED, UM, ON THE SYSTEM. 339 RIDERS MADE AT LEAST ONE RIDE REQUEST. UM, 118 OF THOSE RIDERS COMPLETED ONE OR MORE BOOKINGS. 52 OF THOSE RIDERS COMPLETED TWO OR MORE BOOKINGS, AND 11 OF THOSE RIDERS COMPLETED FIVE OR MORE BOOKINGS. UM, SO AGAIN, THESE ARE JUST SOME METRICS WE WANT TO KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON TO MAKE SURE THE SYSTEM IS RUNNING AS EFFICIENTLY AS POSSIBLE. UM, AND WE'LL HAVE MORE UPDATES ON LUMA GO AS WE COLLECT MORE DATA IN THE COMING MONTHS. I ALSO WANTED TO GIVE, UM, TO GO OVER SOME OF THE FEEDBACK WE'RE GETTING FROM THE COMMUNITY ON LUMA GO AND HOW WE'RE HANDLING THAT. SO WHEN A RIDE IS OVER, UH, THE PASSENGER IS GIVEN THE OPTION TO, ON THE APP TO RATE THEIR RIDE. AND THIS IS BASED ON SEVERAL FACTORS, INCLUDING GREAT DRIVER, FRIENDLY STAFF, COMFY RIDE, QUICK TRIP, CLEAN VEHICLE, AND SMOOTH ROUTING. AND SO FAR WE'VE HAD 95 RATINGS. AND UM, THE AVERAGE RATING IS A 4.9 OUT OF FIVE, WHICH IS REALLY GREAT FOR OUR PILOT PROGRAM. UM, WE'VE ALSO HAD OVER A HUNDRED COMMENTS SUBMITTED TO US THROUGH OUR WEBSITE, RECOMMENDING CHANGES TO THE ZONE AND ASKING FOR INFORMATION AND THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, SO THESE, THESE ARE THINGS WE'LL KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON AND SEE WHAT CHANGES WE CAN MAKE TO IMPROVE THE SYSTEM IF, UM, I THINK THOSE ARE NUMBERS ARE GREAT. UM, WE, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THEIR PART OF THE MANAGER'S REPORT IS ALSO GOING OVER LUGO, BUT I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT NOW IN A LITTLE MORE DETAIL. DOES THAT WORK? UM, THANK YOU CARLY, FOR THE RIDERSHIP NUMBERS BECAUSE I LOVE DATA TOO. I LOVE STORIES TOO. UM, SO FIRST LET ME SAY, UH, YOU HAVE A FEW SWAG ITEMS. I'M MARIA, IN CASE YOU DON'T KNOW RC TRANSIT MARKETING SPECIALIST. SO I GAVE YOU GUYS ONE OF OUR FUN LITTLE BAGS. 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, I'M ALL ABOUT THE SWAG. UM, THIS IS OUR WRAP CARD THAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE EVERYWHERE, HOPEFULLY, UM, WE'RE, IT WILL TAKE YOU THAT QR CODE WILL TAKE YOU DIRECTLY TO THE APP TO DOWNLOAD. UM, SO WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA BE GIVING THESE OUT AT ALL THE LOCAL BUSINESSES, ET CETERA, MAKING SURE THEY'RE PLASTERED EVERYWHERE. SO IF YOU HAVE A PLACE TO PLASTER THEM, FEEL FREE, UM, TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE SOME MORE. YOU ALSO HAVE A SHIRT, AND I DID NOT GUESS IT SIZES, I JUST RANDOMLY GAVE YOU SIZES, SO DONIE. BUT I DO HAVE A FEW IF YOU WANNA EXCHANGE IT FOR A DIFFERENT SIZE. BUT YOU'LL SEE ON THE BACK THAT'S WHAT'S ON THE VEHICLES, WHICH IS OUR SKYLINE, OUR PHONE NUMBER, WHICH I, I FORGET ALL THE TIME UNTIL CARLY REMINDS ME. IT'S ON MY BACK. AND THEN OF COURSE, OUR AMAZING OUR AMAZING LOGO. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IF IF ENJOY THOSE HOWEVER YOU SEE FIT. UM, I WANTED TO ALSO TAKE A MOMENT, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN A LONG PUSH, BUT TO SAY THANK YOU, NOT ONLY TO THIS, UM, COMMITTEE FOR THE GUIDANCE, BUT TO OUR AD HOC WHO REALLY HELPED, UM, CO-CREATE THIS. UM, AND I THINK THAT CONVERSATION ISN'T OVER. I THINK THIS IS, WE'VE LAUNCHED IT. THIS IS WHAT WE BELIEVE PEOPLE WANT, BUT IT'S NOW WE GET TO WATCH THE COMMUNITY REALLY DEVELOPS IT. MM-HMM. , RIGHT? MM-HMM. . MM-HMM. . AND SO WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT NEXT? JUST TO DO A REALLY BRIEF OVERVIEW? 'CAUSE I KNOW YOU PROBABLY ARE TIRED OF LUO AT THIS POINT TALKING ABOUT IT. UM, WE'VE DONE A FEW THINGS IN THE PRE-LAUNCH. YOU KNOW, DEVELOPING THE WEBSITE, FINALIZING THE BRANDING, CREATING BRANDED ASSETS, INSTALLING THE VEHICLE WRAP THE DRIVER TRAINING AND DISPATCH TRAINING. SO I INCLUDED SOME OF THOSE IMAGES IN YOUR PACKET. JUST, IT'S A PROCESS, RIGHT? THIS IS SOMETHING NEW. AND CHANGE IS ALWAYS SCARY, ESPECIALLY IN TRANSIT. THAT TENDS TO BE VERY MUCH, UM, THE SAME YEAR AFTER YEAR, UM, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF MEETINGS, UH, WITH ORGANIZATIONS AND DOING FIELD TESTING. THAT WAS ALL PRE-LAUNCH. LAUNCH WAS AWESOME AND EXHAUSTING. UM, SO WE DID SOME PRE-LAUNCH ACTIVITIES SUCH AS LIKE THE ANTIQUE FAIR, UM, THE CHAMBERS, UH, BREW WATER BREWERY THING, WHICH I FORGET THE NAME OF EVERY TIME. [00:30:01] UM, WE, WE DID A LOT OF OUTREACH TO SPEAKING TO DIFFERENT COMMUNITY GROUPS, TELLING 'EM IT'S COMING. THEN ONCE, UM, LAUNCH DATE WAS THERE, WE SENT OUT A PRESS RELEASE, UH, DISTRIBUTED TO LOCAL PUBLIC, LOCAL BUSINESSES AND COMMUNITY PARTNERS. WHAT I LIKE THIS TIME A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY, UM, WE'VE DONE IS THERE'S ALSO AN ORDER FORM FOR BUSINESSES OR COMMUNITY PARTNERS TO ORDER ITEMS THEY WANT TO HELP PROMOTE IT. SO IT CAN BE THE RACK CARDS, UM, WHAT YOU SEE THAT GET HERE WITH LUMA GO ON YOUR SCREEN. THAT LITTLE SQUARE THAT'S ACTUALLY REPRESENTATIVE OF A CL. SO IF A BUSINESS SAYS, HEY, YOU CAN GET HERE BY LUMA GO, THEY COULD REQUEST THAT CLING TO BE PUT ON THEIR, ON THEIR DOOR. PEOPLE ARE GONNA CONNECT, OH, THAT'S THE VEHICLE. AND IT COULD BRING ME HERE, WE'LL HAVE WINDOW FLYERS, BUT WHAT'S NICE IS THAT I'LL ALWAYS BE AVAILABLE FOR BUSINESSES OR COMMUNITY PARTNERS. AND THERE WERE LINKS IN YOUR PACKET TO THAT. UH, WE DID QUITE A FEW POP-UP EVENTS. AGAIN, VERY THANKFUL FOR ALL THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS. I FEEL LIKE THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS DID AS MUCH SCREAMING FROM THE ROOFTOPS AS I DID ABOUT LUMA GO. AND IT'S VERY EVIDENT IN THE RIDERSHIP NUMBERS. UM, AND IT WAS REALLY FUN TO HAVE PARTNERS IN THIS WAY BECAUSE I, WE GOT TO SPEAK TO THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY IMPACT, WHICH IS REALLY FUN. SO SOME OF THOSE WERE WITH PEP HOUSING. WE DID, WE DID SPEAK AT LIKE THE SENIOR ADVISORY COMMITTEE WE DID WITH THE WOMEN'S CLUB. SO THE NICE THING ABOUT THESE EVENTS, THEY'RE NOT GOING AWAY THIS. SO WHEN AN AGE WHEN A, AN ORGANIZATION REACHES OUT TO ME OR US, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY EITHER FOR US TO DO A POPUP EVENT TO TEACH THEM HOW TO USE IT OR TO DO A LUNCH AND LEARN, WHICH IS WHAT I'LL BE DOING KIND OF IN THE FUTURE WEEKS. SO SOCIAL WORKERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. PEOPLE WHO WANNA BE ABLE TO EXPRESS THIS, UH, THE REST OF THIS MESSAGE OUT. SO THIS IS, THIS IS GONNA BE ONGOING. UM, REALLY EXCITED FOR THE RIDERSHIP NUMBERS FOR SURE. UM, I THINK IT DOES THOUGH REALLY, CARLY DID A GREAT JOB OF ILLUMINATING KIND OF THAT TRICKINESS OF WHAT ARE YOUR BOARDINGS PER HOUR, RIGHT? MM-HMM. . AND HOW DOES THAT COMPARE WITH OUR HIGHEST, UM, YOU KNOW, REVENUE SERVICE HOURS OF 20 PRODUCTION OR 17, I SHOULD SAY PER HOUR. SORRY, CARLEY GOT YOUR NUMBERS WRONG. UM, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE FOR US THAT THAT'S NEVER GONNA BE WHAT LUMA GO CAN DO. AND I'M NOT TRYING TO BE NEGATIVE, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE EVERY TIME WE HAVE A CONTEXT, A CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS, YOU, THIS IS A SERVICE. IT DOES NOT MEET THE SAME, IT WILL NOT AND CANNOT MEET THE SAME KIND OF DEMANDS THAT FIXED ROUTE WILL DO. IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S FILLING IN THE GAPS THAT PARATRANSIT AND FIXED ROUTE DON'T, DON'T SERVE. YEAH, PLEASE. I WAS WAITING FOR TIME. YEAH. YEAH. I CAN BREATHE. . GO AHEAD . YEAH, GO AHEAD DENNIS. I WAS WITH THE CODE DATA. YEAH. WAS IT 300 AND SOME PEOPLE CALLED UP ABOUT MAKING AN APPOINTMENT AND ONLY ONE 18 DID I CAN, UM, I I THINK I KNOW WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT. I THINK RIGHT THERE. SO, SO WHAT OFTEN IT'S THE RIDE REQUEST AND THEN ACTUAL COMPLETED RIDES. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT THE, THE DIFFERENCE? YEAH. I WOULDN'T HAVE THOUGHT TO BE THAT MUCH. WHAT, UNLESS I'M MISTAKEN. UM, MY, MY GUESS. YEAH. BUT TELL ME IF I'M WRONG. 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, THE DATA BETTER BECAUSE IT'S HAPPENED AND IT HAPPENED WHILE I WAS ON THE FIELD, IS PEOPLE LIKE TO TRY IT, RIGHT? WHAT'S THE FIRST THING YOU DO WHEN YOU GET AN APP? OH, LET ME SEE HOW IT WORKS. AND THEN THEY PUSH BOOKING AND THEN THEY GO, OH NO, I CHANGED MY MIND. RIGHT? AND SO IT'S NOT UNCOMMON TO HAVE THAT. UM, AND WE'LL ALSO SEE IT BECAUSE WE'RE ONLY ON DEMAND. SO SOMETIMES IF I WANTED TO LEAVE CITY HALL RIGHT NOW, I MIGHT WRITE OR I WANNA LEAVE AFTER THIS MEETING, I PUT A RIDE REQUEST, BUT THEN IT'S COMING IN FIVE MINUTES AND WE'RE NOT NEARLY DONE, I'M GONNA CANCEL. SO HOPEFULLY THAT KIND OF GREAT. HEY, YOU PICKED THAT UP. I LOVE THAT. UM, AND I'M HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS AS WE GO. YEAH. SO I MEAN THAT, THAT'S AN INTERESTING POINT BECAUSE IT IS A BIG DROP, BUT, UM, MAYBE THERE'S ALSO A CATEGORY WE CAN LOOK AT AT MAYBE MISTAKES OR CANCELLATIONS TOO. AND SO MAYBE WE CAN BRIDGE THAT DISPARITY OF WHY IT'S SO BIG. YEAH. SO I JUST GAVE KIND OF LIKE A LITTLE OVERVIEW OF SOME OF THE DATA, BUT WE HAVE ACCESS TO SO MUCH, UM, DATA LIKE THAT AND WE CAN KIND OF INVESTIGATE LIKE, OH, THIS PERSON DIDN'T GET PICKED UP. WHAT WAS THE REASON? OR THEY CANCELED? WHAT WAS THE REASON? THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, SO IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT IN THE FUTURE. WE'RE NOT USING IT RIGHT NOW, BUT THERE'S ALSO POPUP FUNCTIONS. SO LIKE, IT GETS REALLY CREEPY WHERE IF I GET ALL THOSE PEOPLE, I CAN KIND OF SELECT ALL THE PEOPLE WHO TRIED TO BOOK RIDE BUT NEVER ACTUALLY RODE. THEY'LL GET THIS POPUP MESSAGE, HEY, I SAW YOU TRY THIS, DO YOU WANNA TRY US AGAIN? AND IN OTHER SYSTEMS THEY'LL OFFER A DISCOUNT AT THAT POINT, RIGHT? LIKE, OH, WE WANNA TRY IT. WELL, YOU KNOW, WE SAW YOU LIKED IT. UM, AND SO THERE'S LOTS OF DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT WITH US BEING FAIR FREE, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE THAT PARTICULAR THING, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL BE DOING MOVING FORWARD. SO I I'M ONE OF THE, WHAT, A HUNDRED, 812 PEOPLE WHO DOWNLOADED THE APP? YEAH. OKAY. BUT WHEN IT SAYS GET STARTED, RIGHT? I DIDN'T GET STARTED BECAUSE I DIDN'T [00:35:01] WANNA BE ONE OF THE 339 PEOPLE WHO STARTED AND THEN DIDN'T FINISH. OKAY. SO I DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW HOW THE BOOKING WORKS BECAUSE I DIDN'T START TO DO THAT. BUT I'M REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THESE NUMBERS. I'M LIKE, I'M SURPRISED. I'M JUST GONNA TELL YOU THE TRUTH. I'M VERY HAPPY TO SEE THESE NUMBERS. MM-HMM. . UM, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANNA SEE IN THE FUTURE, AND I'M SURE YOU GUYS WILL BE LOOKING AT, WHICH IS WHETHER A LOT OF THESE RIDERS ARE OUTSIDE OF THE HOURS FOR THE FIXED ROUTE. UM, AND, AND BECAUSE MARIA, YOU TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THESE MIGHT BE PEOPLE WHO COULD USE FIXED ROUTE SERVICE, BUT COULD THEY REALLY? UM, AND SO IT, IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO KNOW WHAT HOURS PEOPLE ARE ASKING FOR, UH, IN ADDITION TO THE PEOPLE WHO, UM, WHO REQUESTED AND DIDN'T FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THE BOOKING. UM, WHERE WERE THEY ASKING TO GO, YOU KNOW, THIS KIND OF THING. NOW I'M ALSO GONNA MENTION SOMETHING 'CAUSE I READ THIS REPORT AND WHEN I READ IN THE REPORT WAS THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A LUMA GO TO WHEN THE CORONA STATION SMART STATION OPENS. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS HAVE TALKED ABOUT SERVING EAST SIDE? YES. SO, SO I THINK THAT'S GETTING INTO ONE OF THE FURTHER DOWN ITEMS. YEAH. THAT'S RELATED TO THE GRANT AGREEMENT. THE NEXT ITEM I'LL COVER, BUT THAT IS ONE OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE DO HAVE FUNDED THROUGH A GRANT YEAH. IS LOOKING AT EXTRA NEW ZONES OF LUMA GO THROUGHOUT THE CITY. OF COURSE, WE'RE IN THIS KIND OF STARTUP PERIOD, WHEREAS MARIA SAID, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SERVICE, SEE THE COMMUNITY RESPONSE. WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF GREAT COMMENTS ON A DAILY BASIS OF WHERE PEOPLE AREN'T IN THE ZONE BUT WOULD LOVE TO HAVE IT. AND ALL THOSE THINGS ARE GONNA BE PART OF THE PROCESS TO INFORM HOW THE SERVICE KIND OF EVOLVES GOING FORWARD. I MEAN, I ONLY MENTION IT BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, I WAS REALLY ACTUALLY KIND OF HAPPY TO SEE THAT THERE WAS SOME THOUGHT ABOUT IT BECAUSE ONE OF MY CONCERNS HAD BEEN HOW IS THE EAST SIDE GOING TO GET SERVICE TOUMA GOAL? AND IF IT'S MORE A STAGE PROCESS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE STAGE NOW AND THEN WE HAVE AN IDEA ABOUT HOW THE NEXT STAGE SHOULD GO, THIS WOULD WORK TOWARDS ANSWERING SOME OF MY CONCERNS ABOUT HOW, YOU KNOW, A PART OF PETALUMA THAT CURRENTLY ISN'T SERVED COULD GET SERVED. AND I THINK, UM, THAT'S WHERE IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN ALONG THE JOURNEY FOR THE EDUCATION PIECE, RIGHT? TO GIVE US THAT REALLY INFORMED GUIDANCE WHEN WE GET THERE. SO WE'LL BE LOOKING AT ALL OF THE SERVICE AREA REQUESTS, WHERE THE SERVICES WE ALREADY HAVE SERVICE AND YOU KNOW, WE'LL REMEMBER LIKE, OH, IT'S NEVER GONNA BE THE SAME AMOUNT BOARDINGS PER HOUR. ARE WE GONNA, YOU KNOW, ARE WE GONNA START SACRIFICING ROUTES FOR THIS? UM, SO I THINK THAT THAT WILL BE VERY IMPACTFUL. MM-HMM. , UM, I CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE NEXT STEPS BRIEFLY, UM, SO YOU CAN GET A SENSE OF WHAT WE'RE WE'RE THINKING. UM, AND THEN TAKE DEFINITELY MORE QUESTIONS. I WANNA FIRST SAY THAT WE'RE FINE TUNING THE APP. WE DID AS MUCH AS WE COULD WITHOUT HAVING REAL PEOPLE, YOU KNOW. UM, BUT WE ARE AWARE OF A FEW ISSUES. UM, UNFORTUNATELY HAVE, UH, RIDERS AS WELL AS COMMUNITY COMMITTEE MEMBERS REACH OUT TO US AND LET US KNOW. UM, BUT WE'RE REFINING THE APP, SO IT'S NOT THAT WE DON'T WANT THAT INPUT, BUT, BUT WE KNOW SOME THINGS ARE, UM, I DON'T WANNA CALL IT BROKEN, BUT BUGGY. UM, SO FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE LEARNING CURVES THAT IS TRICKY FOR PEOPLE IS SOMETIMES THEY HAVE TO CROSS THE STREET, RIGHT? TO GET TO THEIR, TO THEIR LUMA GO VEHICLE. AND OF COURSE, THE IDEA IS WE WANT IT COMING DIRECTLY TO US, RIGHT? BECAUSE AS A PERSON, WE WANNA FEEL LIKE, HEY, IT'S COMING DIRECTLY TO ME, IT'S MINE. BUT AGAIN, THAT'S GONNA IMPACT EFFICIENCIES, RIGHT? SO IF EVERY TIME THIS VEHICLE IS GONNA GO SOMEWHERE, IT HAS TO DO THIS LARGE DEVIATION, THEN THAT TRIP TIME IS LONGER. SO WE JUST, THOSE ARE SOME OF THE QUESTIONS I BELIEVE WE'LL BE BRINGING AS WE GET CLOSER TO SECOND LAUNCH OF LIKE, WHAT IS WORTHWHILE? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE, WE'RE HOLDING UP EFFICIENCY AND HAVING MORE PEOPLE ON THE, ON THE VEHICLE AS THE PRIORITY. UM, SO JUST BE ADVISED THAT THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS. IF YOU HEAR FOLKS, HEY, I DON'T LIKE THIS OR THAT, IF THEY ARE IN A WHEELCHAIR OR HAVE MOBILITY ISSUES, THEY, WE CAN GIVE THEM A DESIGNATION THAT GIVES THEM DOOR TO DOOR. UM, BUT AGAIN, WE WANNA BE REALLY CLEAR THAT THIS WON'T NECESSARILY GET YOU TO YOUR DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT 'CAUSE IT'S ON DEMAND AND I CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT VEHICLE WILL BE THERE FOR THEM. UM, A FEW OTHER OF THE FINE TUNING ITEMS WE'LL DO, JUST GOING BACK TO THAT SERVICE AREA EXPANSION. UM, YES, WE'VE RECEIVED THE 455 PEOPLE HAVE LOOKED AT THE PAGE ALONE IN JUST THE FIRST 10 DAYS. UM, AND THEN A HUNDRED, UH, OVER A HUNDRED REQUESTS, UM, FOR SERVICE AREA, DIFFERENT SERVICE AREAS. AND THEN, SO WE'RE RESPONDING TO EACH OF THOSE, LETTING THEM WHEN THEY'RE IN THE ZONE, WHEN THEY'RE NOT IN THE ZONE. UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE GET CONFUSED THAT EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT IN THE ZONE BUT REALLY CLOSE TO IT, YOU CAN JUST SQUEEZE THE MAP AND YOU CAN MOVE YOUR PIN. UM, SO I, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW [00:40:01] TO EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE IN MARKETING TERMS, SQUEEZE THE MAP, BUT I'M, I'M GONNA GET THERE. UM, SO THAT'S ONE THING THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A LEARNING CURVE, UM, LETTING PEOPLE KNOW THAT. BUT YES, UH, THE PLAN PLANNING WILL BE LOOKING AT EXPANSION AND I'M SURE WE'LL BE RETURNING OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO YOU ALL FOR, FOR GUIDANCE ON THAT AS WELL. UM, LET ME THINK THE OTHER PART I WANTED TO SAY ON THAT, I THINK THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN ALL MY POINTS, BUT YEAH, DEFINITELY LET US KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY THINGS THAT YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT CONCERNS, BUT JUST AGAIN, JUST REALLY APPRECIATE THE AD HOC FURTHER ASSISTANCE WITH GETTING THIS GOING. MM-HMM, . AND ONE LAST PIECE I WOULD SAY IS WE ARE ONLY ABOUT TWO WEEKS INTO THE ACTUAL OPERATION OF IT. OF COURSE, WE'LL KEEP COMING BACK, PROVIDING UPDATES, SEE HOW IT LOOKS AFTER A MONTH, THREE MONTHS, ET CETERA. SO STAY TUNED. THIS IS JUST KIND OF THE INITIAL FORAY OF INTRODUCTION TO HOW IT'S LOOKING. YEAH. AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO RIDE, BECAUSE I THINK SIMILAR TO A PUBLIC COMMENT, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF HARD NOT TO GET GREAT STORIES WHEN YOU'RE ON THIS SERVICE. IT'S BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE OPEN AND THEY'RE QUESTIONING ALREADY. SO THEY'RE KIND OF OPEN BECAUSE IT'S, IT, THEY'RE VERY, IT'S, IT'S SUCH A NEW SERVICE. SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE INQUISITIVE THEMSELVES. SO IT'S FUN TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATION WITH FOLKS ON, ON LUA. MM-HMM. . SO I JUST, I, UM, I JUST WANT TO, UM, I DON'T KNOW, CHEER FOR THIS. IT'S, IT'S A, IT, I MEAN, IT'S SO INNOVATIVE. IT IS. UH, AND, UM, YOU'RE, YOU ARE I THINK, TRACKING SO MANY DATA POINTS AND IT'S, UH, AT THE END OF THREE MONTHS, SIX MONTHS, ET CETERA. I'M SURE WE'LL KNOW SO MUCH MORE ABOUT IT. UM, BUT I ALSO APPRECIATE THAT YOU SENT THE, UM, PRESS RELEASE BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S HELPED ME IN CONVERSATIONS, UM, WITH, WITH WITH FOLKS. AND I AM ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO BE IN TOUCH WITH YOU IF THEY HAVE, UH, IT'S WHAT IT SAYS ON THE PRESS RELEASE. SO I'M SAYING GO AHEAD, CALL HER, UH, BE IN TOUCH WITH HER IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. UM, IT'S THE ONLY WAY WE CAN REALLY KNOW, UH, WHAT TO RESPOND TO. SO, BUT I JUST, I MEAN, KUDOS. WOW. AND I KNOW THESE THINGS TAKE YEARS, THESE THINGS DON'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT OR IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS. AND SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S BEEN A LONG HAUL, I'M SURE. AND IT'S WONDERFUL TO SEE IT OFF THE GROUND. YEAH, THANKS. AND I REALLY WANNA APPLAUD, YOU KNOW, ALL THE EFFORTS BY MARIA AND THE PETALUMA TRANSIT TEAM ON THAT POINT, BECAUSE IT REALLY IS A LOT OF WORK. I THINK PEOPLE SEE IT WHEN IT ROLLS OUT ON LAUNCH DAY, BUT IT WAS A TON OF WORK, ALL THOSE PIECES MARIE WAS TALKING ABOUT, AND REALLY CONDENSED DOWN IN A PRETTY SHORT TIMELINE TO GET THE SERVICE OFF THE GROUND QUICKLY. SO IT'S REALLY BEEN ADMIRABLE WORK THAT THE WHOLE AGENCY REALLY ALL POINTS HAVE BEEN A VITAL PART OF GETTING THE SERVICE GOING. SO I APPLAUD EVERYONE'S EFFORTS. GREAT. THANK YOU. IS IS THERE ANY MORE WITH THE PRESENTATION? OKAY. SO, UM, MOVING ON FROM THE PRESENTATION THAT TAKES US TO THE [APPROVAL OF MINUTES] APPROVAL OF MINUTES, UH, THE APPROVAL FOR THE MEETING OF AUGUST 8TH, UH, 2024. UH, ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE MINUTES HEARING, SEEING NO CHANGES? UH, THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED AS PRESENTED, AND THAT TAKES US, I HAVE ONE QUESTION. SURE. THE, UH, AUGUST 8TH MEETING, IT WAS APPROVAL OF THE MEETING FROM JULY 11TH. DID THAT EVER GET APPROVED THE MINUTES FROM THE 11TH? AM I CONFUSED? I DO NOT RECALL. DO YOU RECALL? I DON'T THINK SO BECAUSE WE CANCELED AUGUST. I, I THINK IT'S NECESSARY. , MAYBE COME BACK NEXT TIME. YEAH, YEAH. WE CAN COME BACK NEXT TIME TO DO IT. YES. THANK YOU, FRED, FOR BRINGING THAT, UH, TO MY ATTENTION. OKAY. THAT THIS TAKES [PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION] US TO, UM, UH, MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION. UH, THE FIRST ITEM THAT WE HAVE IS THE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE COOPERATIVE FUNDING AGREEMENT, UH, BETWEEN THE SONOMA COUNTY TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY AND THE CITY OF PETALUMA. UH, OKAY. DO YOU WANT TO TAKE US THROUGH THAT? THANK YOU. THANK YOU AGAIN, MR. CHAIR. SO THIS ITEM AS REFERENCED EARLIER, IS AN AGREEMENT THAT WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT IS BETWEEN THE CITY OF PETALUMA AND SONOMA COUNTY TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY OR SCTA. THIS IS A GRANT BASED ON A COMPETITIVE APPLICATION, WHICH IS FUNDED THROUGH THE QUARTER CENT SCTA MEASURE M GO SONOMA PROGRAM. OF COURSE, WE'VE HAD THE GO, THE MEASURE M PROGRAM IN PLACE FOR MANY YEARS, BUT VOTERS APPROVE THE EXTENSION AND NOW RENAMING OF THAT TO GO SONOMA A COUPLE YEARS AGO. AND SO THERE'S SEVERAL AREAS THAT IMPROVED WITH THE NEW GO SONOMA MEASURE. THE ALLOCATED FUNDS FOR PETALUMA TRANSIT INCREASE BY ABOUT [00:45:01] 8%, SO IT WAS ABOUT 13%, AND NOW IT'S ABOUT 21%. SO THE MONEY WE GET FOR TRANSIT OPERATIONS AND FARES GOES UP EVERY YEAR. AND THEN THIS IS ANOTHER ITEM THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THERE IN THE COMPETITIVE GRANT CYCLE, AND IT'S A GRANT FOR WHAT'S KNOWN AS THE MOVE TRAFFIC AND IMPROVE SAFETY PROGRAM. AND THIS IS A THREE YEAR GRANT. AND BASICALLY WHAT IT WOULD DO IS WE'RE CALLING IT THE TRANSIT EXPANSION PROGRAM. AND SO OVER THAT TIMELINE, FY 25 THROUGH 27, IT PROVIDES A LITTLE OVER $2 MILLION. SO $2,031,000 FOR US TO PROVIDE SEVERAL NEW SERVICES OVER THAT TIMEFRAME. AND YOU CAN SEE A CHART OF THOSE IN YOUR PACKET. THE SERVICE IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDE INCREASED FREQUENCIES ON ROUTE 11, THE EAST WEST CONNECTOR PETALUMA THAT RUNS ON WASHINGTON, INCREASES ON ROUTE TWO TO ALSO BUMP THAT UP TO 15 MINUTES. THAT'S THE ROUTE THAT RUNS ON NORTH MCDOWELL BOULEVARD. AND AS MENTIONED BEFORE, FUNDING THAT HELP PROVIDE MICRO TRANSIT OPERATING FUNDS, BOTH FOR THE CURRENT ZONE AND THEN THE SECOND EXPANSION ZONE. AND OF COURSE, THE PIECE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN IMPLEMENTED SEVERAL MONTHS BACK, THE RETURN OF THE SCHOOL TRIP OR SERVICE, BASICALLY THE ONLY SERVICE THAT WE WERE RUNNING PRE COVID THAT WE HAD NOT YET BROUGHT BACK, THAT'S NOW RUNNING AT AS OF THE FALL 2024 SEMESTER. AND SO THIS ITEM BEFORE YOU IS THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN, UH, CITY OF PETALUMA AND SETA THAT ALLOWS US TO RECEIVE THOSE FUNDS. I MENTIONED THAT $2 MILLION FUNDING FOR THE GRANT, THERE IS A 20% LOCAL MATCH ELEMENT, SO $406,000 APPROXIMATELY. SO A TOTAL PROJECT FUNDING AMOUNT OF $2.4 MILLION APPROXIMATELY. AND THE LOCAL MATCH COMES FROM THE TDA TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT ACT, ENTERPRISE FUNDS, OUR PRIMARY ANNUAL TRANSIT OPERATING FUNDS THAT WE USE AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SEVERAL TIMES. AND SO WITH THAT, MR. CHAIR, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. DO WE HAVE ANY STARTING WITH, UH, ON TO MY RIGHT, MR. DENNIS? WE'LL GO FROM YOUR, FROM YOU DOWN, UM, CHAIR. I BELIEVE WE WOULD OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS. OH, THANK, THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NO PUBLIC COMMENTS, WE'LL TAKE, UH, WE'LL, SO WE'LL TAKE AT THIS POINT, WE'LL TAKE QUESTIONS. UH, SO, SO, UM, THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UH, CAN ASK QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. UH, AND THEN ONCE WE'RE DONE WITH THE QUESTIONS, UH, WE'LL HAVE A SEPARATE COMMENT PERIOD. YEAH, I, I HAD ONE QUESTION. IN TERMS OF THE, THE 2.4 MILLION TOTAL AMOUNT IN QUARTERLY DISTRIBUTIONS, IS THAT FOR THREE YEARS? SO IS THIS LIKE GOING TO, UM, PAY US 200,000 A YEAR, APPROXIMATELY, I MEAN A QUARTER APPROXIMATELY, OR IS IT HIGHLY VARIABLE FOR OTHER REASONS? IT'S A BIT MORE VARIABLE THAN THAT. IT WON'T BE EVENLY SPREAD OUT. AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE, UM, AGREEMENT. THE SERVICES ARE IMPLEMENTED ON DIFFERENT TIMELINES THROUGHOUT. SO AS WE IMPLEMENT THE SERVICES AND WE SEEK REIMBURSEMENT, THAT'LL INCREASE. SO IT'LL BE LESS MONEY ON THE FRONT END, YOU KNOW, FOR THE FIRST REIMBURSEMENT QUARTER, AND THEN MORE BY THE END OF THE GRANT IS HOPEFULLY ALL OF THESE SERVICES ARE BIG, UH, UP AND RUNNING. OKAY. HMM. MR. ERIC, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO, I'M GOOD. THANK YOU. RIGHT. WELL, I, I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION. I JUST ASSUME THAT STAFF AND THE PUBLIC WORKS AND WHAT HAVE YOU HAS BEEN MOVING FORWARD FOR THE PAST HOW MANY YEARS THIS HAS BEEN UNDERWAY, THREE YEARS OR SO, AND YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, BUT YOU, YOU'RE PLANNING THINGS OUT AND DOING IT THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE. I PERSONALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL HAS BEEN INCLUDED IN HERE. I'VE READ IT, BUT I CERTAINLY DON'T KNOW ALL THE INS AND OUTS. SO I'M ASSUMING THAT STAFF HAS, COULD GIVE US A LITTLE INFORMATION JUST ON WHERE THE MONEY HAS BEEN GOING. IF YOU WANT TO WHERE THIS NEW FUNDING SOURCE MONEY? WELL, THE, THE ORIGINAL FUNDING FORCE ISN'T, WASN'T THERE SOME MONEY IN THE BEGINNING OR NOT? WELL, WE, AS I MENTIONED, WE'VE BEEN GETTING THE MONEY FROM MEASURE M ANNUALLY, BUT THAT'S ABOUT 13% GOING TOWARDS TRANSIT. OKAY. AND SO THAT'S BEEN GOING TOWARDS GENERAL OPERATIONS. WE EXPANDED LATE NIGHT HOURS SEVERAL YEARS BACK. THIS IS ABOUT A DECADE OR SO BACK. THAT'S WHAT THE ORIGINAL SERVICE WAS BEING ALLOCATED FORWARD, THAT FUNDING. AND NOW BY THIS POINT, WITH THAT FUNDING, IT'S CONSIDERED KIND OF THE BASE SYSTEM. AND THEN WITH THE GO SONOMA MEASURE KICKING IN AND THAT BUMPING UP FROM 13 TO 21%, THAT'S NOT ALL TRANSIT OPERATIONS, THAT 8% IS A VARIETY OF FUNDS, INCLUDING TRANSIT OPERATIONS AND ACTUALLY SOME FUNDING FOR TRANSIT PASS PROGRAMS THAT GET FOLDED INTO [00:50:01] FUNDING THE TRANSIT, UH, PETALUMA FAIR FREE PROGRAM. SO THAT'S WHAT THAT INCREASE HAS GONE TOWARDS. AND THEN THIS IS JUST A NEW POT OF FUNDING OVERALL THROUGH THE COMPETITIVE GRANTS INCLUDED IN GHOST SONOMA WHEN THAT WAS PASSED, THE, UH, BALLOT MEASURE FEW YEARS BACK. THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. AND, UM, ALONG THE WAY, IS IT USED FOR MATCHING THE OTHER FUNDING OR NOT NECESSARILY? THIS IS ONE THAT'S OUT OF M MONEY, I DON'T IMAGINE. I MEAN, IT'S PRETTY MUCH EARMARKED FOR OUR OWN, I MEAN, IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE CAN USE TO MATCH OTHER FUNDS. UH, YEAH. CORRECT. I WILL SAY GO SONOMA, IT'S A QUARTER CENT JUST AS, UH, MEASURE M WAS. BUT ONE OF THE BIG PROGRAMS THAT WAS FUNDED THROUGH THE ORIGINAL MEASURE M IS THE WIDENING OF 1 0 1. THAT'S OBVIOUSLY A HIGH TICKET PROGRAM. THAT PROJECT IS CLOSE TO COMPLETION. AND SO WHAT THAT DID IS ONCE THAT PROJECT IS COMPLETE AND YOU EXTEND THAT SALES TAX MEASURE, THAT QUARTER CENT NOW GOES FURTHER AND COVERS MORE TRANSIT PROJECTS, BIKE PROJECTS, AND WE'RE SEEING THE BENEFITS OF THAT NOW. MM-HMM. WITH THE COMPLETION OF THAT AND THAT MONEY IN EFFECT FREEING UP FOR OTHER USES. OKAY. THANK YOU. SURE. SO MY QUESTION, THIS IS, UM, AN ENTIRELY NEW SOURCE OF FUNDING. CORRECT. AND THE ONLY THING THAT AT, AT, UH, THE ONLY THING TO THAT WE NEED TO DO AS A CITY TO QUALIFY FOR IT IS TO PUT IN THE, THE MATCHING PIECE OF 406,000. THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. THERE ANY REASON THAT WE WOULD SAY NO TO THAT ? UM, I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND IT IN EFFECT, IT'S NOT FREE MONEY, BUT IT'S HIGHLY LEVERAGED MONEY. SO I THINK IT'S A GREAT INVESTMENT FOR THE CITY. IT LETS US GET MORE SERVICES OFF THE GROUND FASTER THAN WE WOULD'VE OTHERWISE. SO IT REALLY TAKES THAT TDA FUNDING AND LETS US DO A LOT MORE OF THE DOLLARS. THE PIECE WILL BE CONSIDERING OVER THE LIFE OF THIS GRANT IS THOSE SERVICES AND HOW SUCCESSFUL THEY ARE AND CONTINUING THEM BEYOND THAT CYCLE. THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL BE DISCUSSING OVER THREE YEARS. BUT OVERALL, I THINK IT'S A GREAT DEVELOPMENT AND REALLY LETS US DO A LOT MORE THAN WE WOULD'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO OTHERWISE. GOT IT. AND, UM, MY, SO MY LAST QUESTION IS, UM, ARE THERE, UM, ARE THERE LIMITS ON, YOU KNOW, FOR TRANSIT, WHAT WE CAN SPEND IT ON? WE CAN SPEND IT ON TRANSIT USES IN THIS PARTICULAR GRANT WITHIN THAT IT'S FAIRLY WIDE OPEN. SO IF WE WANTED TO, WE COULD GO BACK TO SET AT SOME POINT AND MODIFY USES WITHIN THAT REALM. SO YOU COULDN'T TAKE THIS FUNDING AND SAY, WE WANNA CHANGE IT AND PUT IT TOWARDS A ROADWAY PROJECT. THAT'S NOT IN THE NATURE OF THIS PARTICULAR GRANT FUND THROUGH SCTA, YOU COULD PROBABLY MODIFY TO PUT IT TOWARDS OTHER OR DIFFERENT TRANSIT SERVICES. SO YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF FLEXIBILITY IN THERE, BUT NOT ENTIRE FLEXIBILITY BEYOND THAT. SURE. AND I GUESS WHERE MY, UH, WHERE MY THOUGHTS WERE GOING ON IT WITH THAT QUESTION IS, UM, IS IT, UH, ARE THERE RESTRICTIONS THAT, UH, REQUIRE SUSPENDED ON OPERATIONS VERSUS, UM, BUYING NEW EQUIPMENT? YEAH, IN THIS CASE IT IS AN OPERATING FUND SPECIFICALLY. GOT IT. VERSUS A CAPITAL ONE. GOT IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL. SURE. OKAY. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. NO QUESTIONS. OKAY. SO, UM, IF THAT, UH, IF THAT IS IT FOR QUESTIONS, UM, ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? OKAY. UH, AND IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD VOTE ON? IT IS, MR. CHAIR, WE ARE LOOKING FOR A RECOMMENDED ACTION FOR APPROVAL SO WE CAN BRING IT ON THE COUNCIL. GOT IT. CAN I, IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MOTION TO APPROVE THIS PUBLIC COMMENT? PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU THINK? PUBLIC COMMENT. WE ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT IN THE BEGINNING. RIGHT. AND THERE WAS NO PUBLIC COMMENT. OKAY. I FORGOT. SORRY. CORRECT. CAN I HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE, I'LL MAKE A MOTION. UM, THE, UH, THAT WE APPROVE A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE COOPERATIVE FUNDING AGREEMENT NUMBER G 3 1 3 0 1 E ONE J BETWEEN THE SONOMA COUNTY OR C-S-C-T-A AND THE CITY OF PETALUMA. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. THANK YOU. CLERK, CAN YOU CALL CLERK, CAN YOU PLEASE CALL A, A ROLL CALL VOTE? OR NOT A ROLL CALL, BUT CALL A VOTE ON THIS ITEM. THANK YOU. ABRAMS. COLE, ROSS? YES. HILL? YES. QUINT? YES. TAR? YES. VAZQUEZ IS A GOOD DAY. [00:55:01] YOU GOT IT? YES. AND ? YES. MOTION PASSES MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU. THE NEXT ITEM, UH, FOR CONSIDERATION IS THE RESOLUTION OF APPROVING THE PURCHASE OF 20 TRASH AND RECYCLING DUAL WASTE RECEPTACLES. JARED, THANK YOU AGAIN, MR. CHAIR. SO WE HAVE ANOTHER GRANT ITEM. HOPEFULLY PEOPLE, UH, LIKE GRANT FUNDING. GOT A COUPLE ITEMS. THIS ONE IS ACTUALLY ONE THAT THE CITY APPLIED FOR AND WAS AWARDED IN 2022. AND YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN A COUPLE OF PRIOR ITEMS THAT WERE AWARDED BY CITY COUNCIL TO PURCHASE FUNDS THAT PUT TRASH CANS IN PARKS THROUGHOUT PETALUMA AND THEN ALSO DOWNTOWN. THIS IS THE FINAL USAGE OF THAT GRANT FUNDING, UH, WHICH WOULD INSTALL THEM AT TRANSIT STOPS. SO THIS OF COURSE IS THE CAL RECYCLE GRANTS TO IMPROVE PUBLIC WASTE RECEPTACLES THROUGHOUT PETALUMA. IT'S DESIGNED TO PUT IN PLACE DUAL STREAM, UH, RECEPTACLES. SO THEY'LL NOT JUST HAVE TRASH, BUT THEY'LL HAVE RECYCLING NEXT TO THEM AT THE SAME LOCATIONS. IT'S PART OF OUR OVERALL PROJECT TO IMPROVE BUS STOPS THROUGHOUT PETALUMA. AS YOU RECALL, ABOUT A MONTH AGO, WE, UM, BROUGHT SOMETHING BEFORE YOU TO BUY SOME BUS SHELTERS AND BENCHES THAT WAS APPROVED, AND NOW THE PURCHASE ORDER IS SET, SO THOSE ARE ON THEIR WAY. AND THEN THIS ITEM WOULD BE IMPROVING 20 ADDITIONAL LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT PETALUMA. IT'S $75,000 OF GRANT FUNDS THAT WE WOULD HAVE AVAILABLE. YOU CAN SEE THE LIST OF THE 20 LOCATIONS INTENDED AS A PRELIMINARY LIST INCLUDED IN YOUR, UH, STAFF REPORTS. AND THESE WOULD BE 42 GALLON SIDE BY SIDE UNITS WITH TRASH AND RECYCLING IN THEM. YOU CAN SEE A PHOTO AS WELL OF THE VICTOR STANLEY SD 2 42 UNIT IN THE STAFF REPORT. IF YOU WANNA SEE WHAT THESE UNITS LOOK LIKE, THEY ACTUALLY LOOK VERY SIMILAR, ALTHOUGH IT'S A DIFFERENT BRAND, ALMOST IDENTICAL TO THE DOWNTOWN ONES THAT WERE PURCHASED. IT'S A REALLY GREAT DESIGN. IT'S A REPUTABLE BRAND. THEY'RE DURABLE, THEY LOOK GREAT. IT'S A KIND OF THING THAT'LL LAST FOR 20 PLUS YEARS AND REALLY HOLD UP WELL AND REPRESENT THE CITY EFFECTIVELY. AND SO IT'S $75,000 WOULD BE GRANT FUNDS. WE ANTICIPATE $10,000 TO INSTALL THE, UM, TRASH CANS. UM, AND SORRY, THE GRANT WAS 75,000. THE COST TO PURCHASE THE CANS IS 85,786. SO WHEN YOU ADD TO THAT, THE $10,000 COST TO INSTALL THE OVERALL PROJECT IS ANTICIPATED TO COST 95,786 APPROXIMATELY. UM, AND SO WITH THAT, MR. CHAIR, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. UM, SO QUESTIONS FIRST OR, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT? FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT. SURE. UH, DID WE RECEIVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR THIS ITEM ONLINE? UM, NO PRIOR, EXCEPT FOR THE CARD I GAVE YOU AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING. THANK YOU. WE HAVE ONE, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT. UH, NIKOLAI. HI. I'D LIKE TO PARAPHRASE MY COMMENT ON, I AM A BIG SUPPORTER OF TRANSIT IN PETALUMA, SO THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT. I DON'T SUPPORT IT, BUT I HAVE, WE HAVE BEEN QUESTIONED IN THE SENIOR ADVISORY COMMITTEE ABOUT COSTS AND EXPENSES. AND THIS CAME UP AS A PROJECT TO LOOK AT, UM, IN THAT IT IS A GRANT FOR $75,000, BUT YOU ARE SUPPLEMENTING THAT GRANT FOR $20,000, $25,000 ACTUALLY. UM, ONE WONDERS IF, IF I WAS IN BUSINESS SOMEWHERE AND I WENT TO MY BOSS AND SAID, I KNOW YOU GAVE ME $75,000 TO BUY SOMETHING OR DO SOMETHING, BUT I REALLY NEED TO SPEND $95,000, I WOULD'VE BEEN TOLD, DO IT FOR THE $75,000 THAT YOU HAVE. EITHER LOOK FOR A LOWER COST, LOOK FOR A, UM, LESS, UM, NUMBER OF ITEMS THAT YOU DO. AND WE ARE CONCERNED THAT IN FACT, IF EVERY PROJECT THAT GOES THROUGH IN EVERY DEPARTMENT IN THE CITY HAS AN OVERRIDE OF 20%, THAT MEANS THE BUDGET DOESN'T BALANCE. AND I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE EXTRA FUNDS. I UNDERSTAND WHERE THE EXTRA FUNDS ARE COMING FROM, BUT IT SETS A PRECEDENT THAT OVERRIDES ARE OKAY. SO WE ARE QUESTIONING WHY THAT'S HAPPENING, NOT THAT THE GARBAGE CANS ARE NOT INCREDIBLY BEAUTIFUL AND WILL BE VERY GREAT, UM, BUT THERE IS THIS IDEA OF KEEPING TO A BUDGET. THANK YOU. SEEING NO OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS. THIS CLOSES PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM AND WE'LL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE. MR. DENNIS, YOU WANNA GET US KICKED OFF? UM, SURE. I, [01:00:01] I'D LIKE TO ASK JARED IF HE WOULD RESPOND TO THE QUESTION THAT WAS JUST POSED. YEAH, THANK YOU. UH, COUNCIL MEMBER PO. OKAY. SO ONE THING I SHOULD HAVE NOTED THAT I DIDN'T IS THE EXTRA COST DELTA A LITTLE OVER 20,000 THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT COMING FROM THE TRANSIT SIDE. IT'S COMING FROM TRAFFIC IMPACT FUNDS. SO STILL CITY FUNDS, BUT NOT TRANSIT OPERATING FUNDS. I THINK IT'S WORTH DIFFERENTIATING. UH, THERE'S ALWAYS THE ALTERNATIVE TO DO LESS LOCATIONS. WE THOUGHT THE 20 WAS A NICE NUMBER THAT REALLY HELPS BUILD OUT THE UNITS THROUGHOUT PET PETALUMA, UM, REALLY HELPS US ADDRESS SOME OF THE MOST PRO PROBLEMATIC STOPS WE HAVE OVER 150 THROUGHOUT PETALUMA. SO 20 IS A RELATIVELY SMALL NUMBER. THERE'S ALWAYS AN OPTION TO SCALE BACK AND KEEP IT TO THE 75,000, BUT THAT'S ULTIMATELY KIND OF A DECISION AS AN ALTERNATIVE UP TO THIS BODY. AND THEN COUNSEL, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO RECOMMEND, YOU HAVE, OH, I'M SORRY. NO, SORRY. NO, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. MY, MY FOLLOW UP TO THAT IS, SO THE ALTERNATIVE, UM, TO STAY AT THE LOWER LEVEL IS, IS THE ALTERNATIVE ONLY TO PUT OUT FEWER CANS OR FEWER RECEPTACLES, OR IS, ARE THERE OTHER OPTIONS AVAILABLE? UM, LESS EXPENSIVE, UH, RECEPTACLES, THERE ARE OTHER UNITS WE COULD LOOK AT BEYOND THESE. THESE ARE TYPICAL OF THE ONES THAT YOU SEE THROUGHOUT PETALUMA. THESE ONES ARE ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT LESS, WHEN I LOOKED COMPARED TO THE DOWNTOWN MODELS THAT THEY PURCHASED, I THINK THEY'RE ABOUT 300 TO $400 LESS PER TRASHCAN. SO WE THINK THIS IS A GOOD BALANCE. THE ONE BASED ON THE VARIOUS INPUTS WE'VE HEARD OVER THE YEARS, IS AN ATTRACTIVE, DURABLE TRASHCAN THAT WILL HOLD UP WELL, THERE'S CHEAPER ONES YOU CAN GET, BUT THEY DON'T LAST 20 YEARS, THEY LOOK PRETTY BAD AFTER A FEW YEARS. THEY RUST. THESE ONES ARE, YOU KNOW, POWDER COATED, SO THEY HOLD UP PRETTY WELL. SO ALWAYS AN ALTERNATIVE AS WELL. BUT THIS IS THE MODEL WE'RE RECOMMENDING BASED ON THAT KIND OF INPUT WE'VE RECEIVED OVER THE YEARS. THANK YOU ERIC. YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION. BUT, UM, I DO KIND OF WANNA GO BACK TO NICOLA'S POINT ABOUT, ABOUT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF JUST WHAT'S BEEN SET ASIDE FOR THIS AND, AND THE TOTAL PRICE OF IT BEING THE 95,095, WHAT WAS IT, 95,000? UM, I'M THANKFUL THAT IT ISN'T WHAT WE SEE IN PLACES LIKE SAN FRANCISCO WHERE I KNOW THAT DISCUSSIONS HAPPENED OF HOW EXPENSIVE TRASH CANS CAN BE. BUT, UM, TO FRANK'S POINT, IF THERE'RE ALL, IF THERE ARE ALTERNATIVES THAT COULD BE OF, OF COST SAVINGS, UM, I THINK IT'S WORTH EXPLORING. THANK YOU, FRED. I JUST, UH, JUST WONDERED WHAT PETALUMA BLUE IS? , IS THAT WHY THE EXTRA 20,000 ? THAT IS AN UNOFFICIAL NAME. I WOULD SAY THAT MEANS THE COLOR YOU SEE AT EXISTING BUS STOPS FOR THE SHELTERS, FOR THE TRASH CANS, ET CETERA. AND THERE IT'S, IT JUST BLENDS IN. OOPS, SORRY. BLENDS IN WITH EVERYTHING ELSE IN. EXACTLY. I JUST, I SAW THAT AND THOUGHT, REALLY, IS THERE A COLOR THAT NAME, THAT'S WHAT WE CALL NOT THE OFFICIAL COLOR OF THAT CHECK. I LIKE IT. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE. UM, I JUST, CURIOUSLY, THESE RECEPTACLES WON'T TAKE ANY MORE MONEY TO MAINTAIN OR PICKUPS BECAUSE THEY'RE BIGGER OR HEAVIER. HOW, WHERE DOES THAT MONEY COME FROM IF THAT'S CORRECT? THAT'S ACTUALLY A GREAT POINT, IS THESE UNITS ARE ALL GONNA BE MAINTAINED BY RECOLOGY. THAT'S PART OF THE GRANTS. OH, OKAY. AND SO OFTEN, ONE OF THE PIECES THAT CAN BE A CONTINUATION OF THIS IS IF YOU HAVE TO EMPTY THEM YOURSELVES, THERE'S ADDED TIME COSTS. BUT ONE OF THE GREAT PARTS OF THIS GRANT IS THEY ACTUALLY EMPTY THESE TRASH CANS IN PERPETUITY. SO THAT'S A NICE ADDED BONUS OF THIS GRANT FUNDING IS THEM EMPTYING THEM ONCE THEY'RE IN PLACE. SO THEY'RE ALREADY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, SO SOMEHOW THEY'LL PICK THESE UP. OKAY. CORRECT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, PATTY. SO WHAT I UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO BE BUDGET CONSCIOUS. I ALSO, UM, UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, IT'S IMPORTANT TO LEVERAGE FUNDS WHEN YOU CAN FOR COMMUNITY NEEDS. AND I SEE THAT, UM, THE STOPS WERE IDENTIFIED AND FROM YOUR REPORT, FROM A COMBINATION OF RIDERSHIP NEED EQUITY, PROXIMITY TO MAJOR DESTINATIONS AND CURRENT AND CONDITION OF CURRENT BUS STOP AND SOME OTHER FACTORS, , WHICH I, I DUNNO WHAT THEY ARE, BUT, UM, I, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT HAVING SEEN THE ACTUAL [01:05:01] PRINTOUT THAT COMPARES ALL THE BUS STOPS AND LOOKS AT ALL OF THESE FACTORS, UM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO TAKE, TO KEEP IN MIND THAT THERE WAS CONSIDERATION, THERE WERE METRICS THAT WERE USED TO DECIDE WHICH STOPS NEED THE TRASH CANS AND, UM, AND HOW MANY OF THOSE THERE SHOULD BE. AND SO IF YOU TAKE, IF YOU SAY WE NEED TO STAY WITHIN THE $75,000 BUDGET, YOU EITHER GET A INFERIOR PRODUCT AND, UM, I DON'T, AND THE COMMUNITY MIGHT COMPLAIN ABOUT THAT, OR YOU HAVE STOPS THAT MAYBE NEED TRASH CANS, NEW TRASH CANS THAT DON'T HAVE THEM, THE COMMUNITY COULD COMPLAIN ABOUT THAT. SO IT'S ALWAYS A BALANCE BETWEEN WHAT THE NEED IS AND WHAT YOUR BUDGET IS. AND TO BE ABLE TO LEVERAGE GRANT FUNDING ACTUALLY TO GET THIS KIND OF RESOURCE IS, UM, IS SOMETHING THAT GOVERNMENT DOES ALL THE TIME. AND THAT I APPRECIATE. SO, I MEAN, I THINK WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, SHOWING US YOUR SPREADSHEET OF HOW YOU DETERMINE THIS, AND I'M IMPRESSED YOU'RE LIKE, THESE ARE POWDER COATED, UM, , YOU KNOW, UM, I APPRECIATE THE, THE WORK YOU PUT INTO IT TO DETERMINE WHAT IS THE BEST FIT, GIL. YEAH. I I JUST WANNA, UH, AGAIN, CLARIFY. I THINK WHAT I HEARD, UM, WAS THAT THE EXTRA 20,000 IS COMING FROM, UM, A CITY FUND WHERE CITY TRAFFIC IMPACT FUNDS. YEAH. WHERE THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME FLEXIBILITY IN TERMS OF WHERE THEY CAN ALLOCATE THOSE FUNDS. SO IT'S, IT'S, UM, IT'S, THE FUNDING IS COMING FROM ANOTHER CITY FUND THAT IS JUST BEING, THAT THEN WOULD JUST BE ALLOCATED TO THIS. CORRECT. YEAH. THAT TRAFFIC IMPACT FUND, THERE'S A FEW DEFINED DEFINITIONS OF WHAT THAT CAN BE USED FOR. UH, ROADWAY PROJECTS IS A BIG ONE, OF COURSE, BUT ALSO BIKE PED PROJECTS. MM-HMM. AND THEN TRANSIT PROJECTS ARE ELIGIBLE FOR, I THINK IT'S APPROXIMATELY 23% OF THE PROJECT COST THROUGH THAT FUND. OKAY. AND I AM SORRY, HELEN, BUT I CALLED YOU GAIL. I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. IT'S ALL RIGHT. I, I APOLOGIZE. I, I CALLED YOU GAIL BY MISTAKE. OH, . IT HAPPENED BEFORE. IT'S OKAY. YEAH. WE KNOW WHO WE ARE. YEAH. SO, UM, SO ON THE COMMITTEE, THERE WAS, UH, SOME QUESTION AROUND, UH, POSSIBLY A SECOND LOOK AT, UH, OTHER ALTERNATIVES. LET ME JUST TAKE A TEMPERATURE CHECK IN TERMS OF, UH, ANYONE'S DESIRE FOR THAT. UM, YOU CAN, SEEING NO HANDS, UH, CAN I ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION? I'LL MAKE IT, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THIS RESOLUTION. THANK YOU. UH, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM DENNIS. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. THANK YOU, PATTY. UH, WE'LL TAKE A CLERK. CAN YOU CALL A VOTE? ABRAMS? RO, YES. KEEL. SORRY. KEEL, YES. UH, QUINT. YES. TAR. YES. VASQUEZ IS A RE YES. ? YES. MM-HMM. . THE MOTION IS APPROVED. UH, THAT TAKES US TO OUR, UH, FINAL ITEM FOR CONSIDERATION. THE 2024 TITLE SIX PLAN UPDATE FOR PETALUMA TRANSIT. THANK YOU AGAIN. SO THIS ITEM IS AN ITEM THAT WE BROUGHT BEFORE THIS BODY BEFORE THAT WE GENERALLY BRING EVERY THREE YEARS WHEN WE UPDATE THIS PLAN. THIS IS KNOWN AS OUR TITLE SIX PLAN, AND IT'S A REQUIREMENT UNDER THE FEDERAL TRANSIT ADMINISTRATION, OR FTA, IN ORDER FOR US TO BE ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE FTA GRANT FUNDS OF WHICH WE RECEIVE, YOU KNOW, HUNDREDS, MILLIONS OF DOLLARS EVERY YEAR TO PROVIDE SEVERAL CAPITAL PROJECTS. IN PARTICULAR, THINGS LIKE OUR NEW BUS PURCHASES. THE MAJORITY OF THE FUNDING COMES FROM FTA. AND THERE'S OF COURSE, SEVERAL REQUIREMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH RECEIVING FTA FUNDING, ONE OF WHICH IS HAVING A TITLE SIX PLAN. AND AS A REMINDER FOR PEOPLE, TITLE SIX IS TITLE SIX OF THE 1964 CIVIL RIGHTS ACT. UM, IT HELPS TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE EXCLUDED FROM PARTICIPATING OR DENYING BENEFITS OF PETALUMA TRANSIT SERVICES, UM, ON THE BASIS OF RACE, COLOR, [01:10:01] SEX, AGE, DISABILITY, RELIGION, FAMILY STATUS, OR NATIONAL ORIGIN. AND SO WHEN THAT WAS PASSED IN 1964, TITLE VI WAS ONE OF THE COMPONENTS THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THAT ACT WHEN IT WAS APPROVED. THE MOST RECENT PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNSEL WAS IN JUNE, 2021. AND SO BASICALLY WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THIS PLAN IS IT'S A PLAN THAT HELPS TO ENSURE THAT ALL THE SERVICES THAT PETALUMA TRANSIT PROVIDES ARE EQUITABLE AND SERVE THE COMMUNITY IN A WAY THAT'S COMPLIANCE WITH REQUIREMENTS AND MEETS THE NEED OF THE COMMUNITY. AND SO THERE ARE SEVERAL COMPONENTS IN THE PLAN THAT YOU'LL SEE IF YOU LOOK THROUGH IT. SOME OF THE TOPICS THAT THEY COVER INCLUDE COMMUNITY OUTREACH, UM, ENSURING A TRANSPARENT PROCESS. ANYTIME WE'RE DOING LARGE SERVICE CHANGES, IT TALKS ABOUT PUBLIC MEETINGS SUCH AS THE ONE WE HAVE HERE. IT TALKS ABOUT THE CITY COUNCIL BEING THE ULTIMATE DECISION MAKING BODY FOR PETALUMA TRANSIT. ALL THOSE PIECES ARE SPELLED OUT. IT CREATES A FORMALIZED COMPLAINT PROCESS SO PEOPLE EVER HAVE A COMPLAINT BASED ON TITLE SIX REASONS, LIKE IF THEY FEEL THE AGENCY OR ONE OF ITS REPRESENTATIVES IS BEING DISCRIMINATORY. THIS PLAN OUTLINES THE DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF THAT, SUCH AS IT DEFINES WHAT THE PROCESS LOOKS LIKE, HOW PEOPLE CAN FILE THAT COMPLAINT. AND THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS YOU CAN DO THAT. YOU CAN DO THAT THROUGH MAIL, YOU CAN DO THAT VERBALLY, YOU CAN DO THAT OVER THE PHONE. IT OUTLINES HOW WE PROCESS THE COMPLAINT AND WHO'S INVOLVED. AND IT ALSO DOES THINGS LIKE DEFINE THE FEEDBACK CHANNELS THAT WE HAVE AND ALL THE DIFFERENT RESOURCES TO HELP SPREAD OUR INFORMATION THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY AND MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING IT IN AN EQUITABLE WAY. ONE OF THE MAJOR COMPONENTS, FOR EXAMPLE, IS ANY ELEMENTS OF YOUR COMMUNITY THAT HAS MORE THAN 5% REPRESENTATION. RACIALLY, YOU HAVE TO HAVE LANGUAGES AVAILABLE IN THAT LANGUAGE. AND SO FOR US, SPANISH LANGUAGE IS THE SECOND LANGUAGE THAT PASSES THAT THRESHOLD BEYOND ENGLISH. IN OTHER COMMUNITIES, IT MAY BE HIGHER. YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE IN SAN FRANCISCO, THERE COULD BE SEVERAL. BUT WHAT THAT MEANS FOR US IS ALL OF OUR MAJOR DOCUMENTS THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE ARE AVAILABLE IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH. AND SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING ON OUR WEBSITE, YOU'LL SEE THE ABILITY TO TRANSLATE ALL THE CONTENT ON THERE. IF YOU RIDE THE BUS, WE'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE THE TITLE SIX NOTICE, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT LANGUAGE INCLUDED IN HERE. AND YOU'LL SEE ON THE BUS THAT IT'S AVAILABLE IN BOTH ENGLISH AND SPANISH. MM-HMM, . AND THEN WE HAVE TRANSLATION SERVICES AVAILABLE. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO THROUGH OUR OPERATIONS CONTRACT IS WE ACTUALLY ACQUIRE OUR OPERATOR, MV TRANSPORTATION, TO HAVE BILINGUAL STAFF AVAILABLE AT MULTIPLE POSITIONS. AND SO YOU'LL SEE BUS DRIVERS, WE HAVE MULTIPLE THAT ARE BILINGUAL. WE HAVE DISPATCHERS THAT ARE BILINGUAL, OUR STREET SUPERVISOR, AND WE CAN ACTUALLY PROVIDE TRANSLATION SERVICES IN OVER A HUNDRED LANGUAGES. IF YOU NEED TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL CONVERSATION WITH A MEMBER OF STAFF THAT ISN'T, YOU KNOW, FLUENT, UM, FLUENT IN SPANISH, WE HAVE A PHONE LINE WE CAN USE, OR OTHER PEOPLE WE CAN PULL IN TO HELP WITH THAT TRANSLATION. SO THAT'S ANOTHER MAJOR COMPONENT OF IT. IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE UPDATES THAT YOU SEE IN THIS PLAN COMPARED TO THE PRIOR ONE, WE UPDATED THE LIST OF COMMUNITY PARTNERS IDENTIFIED AS PART OF THE OUTREACH AND PARTNERSHIP THAT WE DO. UM, AND OF COURSE, IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON, WE DIDN'T LIST EVERY SINGLE PARTNER ON THAT LIST, BUT IF ANYONE ELSE COMES TO MIND, YOU KNOW, PLEASE LET US KNOW. WE'RE HAPPY TO ADD THAT INTEGRATING WITH THE NEW CITY OUTREACH CHANNELS AND MECHANISMS THAT ARE IN PLACE SINCE THE LAST PLAN WAS UPDATED, EXPANDING THE PROTOCOLS TO ENSURE THAT OUTREACH TO COMMUNITIES OF CONCERN. ANOTHER UNDERSERVED POPULATIONS THROUGHOUT PETALUMA, OUR PIECE, EVERY TIME WE'RE DOING A MAJOR SERVICE CHANGE. SO ALTHOUGH THAT'S NOT AN ELEMENT WE DO, IF IT'S A MINOR TWEAK TO A SCHEDULE, SAY WE'RE CHANGING THINGS BY A FEW MINUTES HERE AND THERE. ALL TRANSIT AGENCIES, WHEN YOU DO A MAJOR SERVICE CHANGE, ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE A PUBLIC PROCESS. AND THAT PROCESS IS OUTLINED HERE IN THE DOCUMENTS. UH, IT INCLUDES EXPANDED USE OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. AND THEN THERE'S THAT USE OF THAT PHONE-BASED TRANSLATION SERVICE, AS I MENTIONED. UM, SO ONE OF THE THINGS YOU NOTED IS THERE'S SEVERAL AREAS OF DEMOGRAPHICS INCLUDED IN THE PLAN. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'LL DO IS SEND AROUND TO THIS COUNCIL AFTER THE MEETING, A QUICK SURVEY TO GET THAT INFORMATION UPDATED. YOU'LL SEE AS A PLACEHOLDER IN THERE, THAT DATA FROM THE LAST TIME WE DID THIS EXERCISE. THAT OF COURSE IS THREE YEARS OLD. BUT WE'LL BE UPDATING THAT AS PART OF THE FINAL PLAN WHEN WE BRING THIS FORWARD FOR ADOPTION. AND SO, UH, THERE'S NO REAL FINANCIAL COMPONENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS. THERE'S NO COST TO DO IT, BUT OF COURSE, IT IMPACTS THE FEDERAL FUNDING WE WANT TO DO. AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT REALLY SPELLS OUT THE VITAL PIECES OF HOW WE TRY TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY TO HEAR THE INPUT, TO DO SERVICE CHANGES, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CHECKING ALL THE BASES AND WE'RE REALLY HEARING FROM [01:15:01] EVERYONE IN A MEANINGFUL WAY AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH AND WE'RE UPDATING OUR SERVICE, MAKING SURE IT WORKS FOR PEOPLE, ET CETERA. UH, SO THAT MR. CHAIR COMPLETES MY PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. UH, CLERK, DID WE RECEIVE ANY ONLINE COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? UH, NO PRIOR PUBLIC COMMENTS. THANK YOU. UH, ARE THERE ANY, DO WE, DID WE RECEIVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS, UH, HERE PRESENT, NOT HAVING, OR NOT SEEING ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? UH, THAT'LL TAKE US TO, UM, QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE, UH, THIS TIME, UH, JUST TO MIX THINGS UP. UH, WE CAN START FROM YOUR, AND HELEN, IF YOU'D LIKE TO, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. I DON'T, NO, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, NOR DO I. NOR DO I. NOPE. IS THIS AN ITEM THAT, UH, REQUIRES A VOTE? IT IS. WE HAVE REQUESTED ACTION TO RECOMMEND BRINGING THIS BEFORE FORWARD BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL FOR ADOPTION. THANK YOU. UH, CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE THIS ITEM? SO MOVE A SECOND. SECOND. THANK YOU. CLERK, CAN YOU PLEASE CALL A VOTE ABRAMS? ROS? YES. HILL? YES. QUINT? YES. TAR? YES. VASQUEZ IS A YES. ? YES. THE ITEM IS APPROVED. THE ITEM IS APPROVED. THIS TAKES US [COMMITTEE COMMENT] TO THE NEXT ITEM. UH, COMMITTEE COMMENT. UH, DURING COMMITTEE COMMENT, MEMBERS ARE INVITED TO BRIEFLY SHARE UPDATES RELEVANT TO THIS C COMMITTEE, INCLUDING LIAISON REPORTS FROM OTHER CITY BODIES, AND MAKE REQUESTS FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. DIALOGUE BETWEEN MEMBERS SHOULD BE LIMITED TO CLARIFYING QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS. UH, THERE SHOULD, THERE WILL BE NO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM, SO WE'LL OPEN IT UP FOR COMMITTEE COMMENT. UM, AND AGAIN, HELEN, WE'LL START WITH YOU. NO, I'M NOT GONNA MUCH, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I WAS HAPPY TO SEE A LUMA GO VEHICLE IN THE WILD. UM, AND THAT WAS, THAT WAS VERY NICE. THANK YOU. UH, MY ONLY COMMENT TOO IS I, I JUST WANT TO EXTEND MY APPRECIATION FOR, UH, THE REALLY THE, THE, UH, THE HOURS, THE HARD WORK THAT, UH, STAFF HAS PUT INTO LAUNCHING LUMA AGO. MM-HMM. , UH, IT, UH, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S SOMETHING THAT REALLY, TO GET IT OFF THE GROUND, I THINK REQUIRED A TON OF OUTREACH AND I'M JUST EXCITED TO SEE IT CONTINUE AND, AND APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE. UM, I HAVE JUST ONE COMMENT AND I, I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE BIKE SHARE PROGRAM OPENED UP, BUT I WASN'T HERE LAST WEEK AND I DON'T THINK IT WAS HERE THE WEEK BEFORE. THAT DOES JUST GET GOING THIS WEEK. SO YEAH, THAT'S ACTUALLY SOMETHING I WAS GONNA COVER DURING THE LAST PART OF THE MANAGER'S REPORT, BUT I'LL GO AHEAD AND MENTION IT NOW. OKAY. , UH, REDWOOD BIKE SHARE STARTED THIS WEEK, SO IT STARTED ON MONDAY. THIS OF COURSE, IS A BIKE SHARE PROGRAM THAT SCTA, ALONG WITH THE TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY IN MARIN RECEIVED A GRANT SEVERAL YEARS AGO. WE WERE VERY CLOSE TO IMPLEMENTING THIS ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO WHEN THE PROVIDER WENT OUTTA BUSINESS NATIONWIDE. SO IT CAUSED A RESHUFFLE REBID OF THE PROJECT. OVER THE PAST YEAR OR SO, A NEW VENDOR WAS AWARDED THE BID THROUGH SETA AND THAT'S CALLED REDWOOD BIKE SHARE. AND SO AS OF MONDAY THIS WEEK, PEOPLE CAN RIDE THAT SERVICE. YOU CAN DOWNLOAD THE APP AND THE APP STORES JUST LOOK FOR REDWOOD BIKE SHARE. THERE WILL BE 12 STATIONS THROUGHOUT PETALUMA WHEN IT'S BUILT OUT. AS OF NOW, 10 OF THEM SHOULD BE UP AND RUNNING THIS WEEK. SO A COUPLE MORE STILL COMING. AND THIS IS THE SERVICE, NOT JUST IN PETALUMA, BUT ALL THROUGHOUT THE 1 0 1 CORRIDOR. SO YOU'LL SEE STATIONS IN PETALUMA PARK, NEVADA, ALL THOSE PLACES. AND IN PETALUMA, THEY'RE REALLY SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE CITY. SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO DOWNLOAD THE APP, GO TO THE WEBSITE AND YOU CAN SEE THE PRICING FOR IT, WHERE ALL THE LOCATIONS ARE LOCATED, ET CETERA. UH, NOTABLY THERE'LL BE ONE RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE EACH SIDE TRANSIT CENTER ON MARIA, UH, NEAR THE SAFEWAY ON MCDOWELL. AND THEN THERE'LL BE ONE OVER BY THE EXISTING SMART STATION. SO VERY CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE COPELAND TRANSIT SWELL. THE ONE AT THE VISITORS OR THE SMART STATION IS IN. AND THE ONE AT THE BEGINNING OF LYNCH CREEK ON, IS THAT WATER STREET THERE OR? YEAH, IT'S WHERE LYNCH CREEK TIES INTO WATER STREET. THE SAD THING IS IT'S ALREADY BEEN [01:20:01] GRAFFITIED . DAMN. THAT IS SAD. BUT I WILL, WILL MAKE NOTE OF THAT AND PASS IT ALONG TO THEM SO THEY CAN CLEAN UP AS FAST POSSIBLE. AND I, I AM, I'M HAPPY IT'S, IT'S BEGINNING. UM, I WAS INVOLVED IN THE BEGINNING WITH JARED AND THE, UM, PED PBA HEAD OF GROUP. SO, BUT I'M, IT'S JUST FANTASTIC. IT'S THERE AND ESPECIALLY THE LYNCH CREEK, IT, IT'LL ALLOW PEOPLE TO STAY OFF OF THE HEAVY, HEAVILY TRAVELED ROADS THAT WE HAVE IN ON WASHINGTON OR MCDOWELL. YOU CAN GET ACROSS TOWN, YOU CAN GO OUT TO THE AIRPORT. SO GOOD. GOOD WORK. . THANK YOU ERIC. NONE FROM ME. THANK YOU. I ALSO APPRECIATE, UH, THE WORK STAFF'S DONE ON LUEGO. UM, MY ONLY THING AT LUEGO IS THERE'S ONE SPOT WHERE THE GO IS SMALL G SMALL LUEGO, AND I WANNA CONSTANTLY READ THAT AS LUMBAGO AND YOU CAN. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, AND THAT TAKES [STAFF COMMENT] US TO, UH, STAFF COMMENT. THANK YOU AGAIN. SO THIS IS THE MANAGER REPORT. UM, OF COURSE I WON'T GO THROUGH EVERYTHING BUT HIT SOME OF THE MAJOR HIGHLIGHTS IN HERE. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED YESTERDAY IS, UM, IT IMPACTS OUR FUNDING. IT'S A SOMEWHAT, UH, MUNDANE TYPE THING, BUT IT IMPACTS THE FORMULA FUNDING FOR TDA THAT WAS REFERENCED BEFORE. AS PEOPLE MAY RECALL, WE HAVE A LONGSTANDING AGREEMENT THROUGH SONOMA COUNTY WHEN WE DO AN ANNUAL PROCESS CALLED THE COORDINATED CLAIM THAT DETERMINES HOW MUCH OF THE COUNTYWIDE POT IN FUNDING SUCH AS TDA AND THEN STA STATE TRANSPORTATION ASSISTANCE GETS TOLD OUT TO EACH AGENCY. AND IT'S BASED ON PRE-AGREED FORMULAS AMONGST ALL THE AGENCIES DATING BACK TO AN AGREEMENT FROM 1996 MM-HMM , THE BIGGEST POINT OF CONTENTION WITH THE AGREEMENTS IS A 25% ALLOCATION THAT GOES TO GOLDEN GATE TRANSIT OF THAT POT ANNUALLY. AND SO THEY GET THE 25% OFF THE TOP OF THE TDA AMOUNTS REGARDLESS OF SERVICE THAT'S IN THERE. AND SO YOU CAN READ MORE IN THIS SETA BOARD REPORT FROM YESTERDAY, AND I'LL ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO TAKE A LOOK TO GET A BIT MORE BACKGROUND ON IT. BUT BASICALLY THE SERVICE LEVELS FOR GOLDEN GATE HAVE BEEN DROPPING DEFINITELY SINCE COVID STARTED AND EVEN PRIOR TO THAT. AND SO THIS WAS AN ATTEMPT TO KIND OF RECONCILE THOSE FUNDING AMOUNTS AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE COMM MEASURE WITH THE SERVICE EACH AGENCY IS PROVIDING. AND THE ITEM THAT WAS APPROVED LAST NIGHT BY THE SETA BOARD CHANGES THAT FORMULATION. SO INSTEAD OF THE 25% GOING TO GOLDEN GATE, IT CREATES A NEW FORMULA SIMILAR TO HOW THE FUNDING IS DIVVIED OUT IN MARIN COUNTY TO WHERE THEY DO IT, A COMBINATION OF TRIPS AND REVENUE HOURS THAT EACH AGENCY HAS PROVIDED AS OPPOSED TO A FLAT AMOUNT THAT DOESN'T HAVE A TIE TO THE SERVICE YOU'RE PROVIDING. AND SO THAT'S A GOOD THING, ESPECIALLY FOR THE LOCAL BUS OPERATORS. IN TERMS OF WHERE THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD. PETALUMA ANTICIPATES WE'LL GET ABOUT 200 TO $400,000 MORE PER YEAR OUT OF THAT CHANGE. AND SO THERE'S LESS FUNDING FOR GOLDEN GATE TRANSIT, BUT MORE PROVIDED TO OTHER AGENCIES LIKE PETALUMA TRANSIT AND SANTA ROSA CITY BUS. IT'LL TAKE ABOUT TWO YEARS BEFORE THAT FUNDING REACHES US 2026 BY THE TIME THE FORMULAS ARE ADJUSTED AND WE DO THE NEW COORDINATED CLAIM. BUT THAT WILL BE MORE MONEY COMING INTO PETALUMA TRANSIT ANNUALLY GOING FORWARD. AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER PIECE CONCURRENTLY GOING ON, UM, THE MASCOT STUDY, THE MARIN SONOMA COUNTY COORDINATED TRANSIT STUDY, OF WHICH WE'RE ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH THE DRAFT REPORT OF THAT IS EXPECTED IN FEBRUARY. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE ITEMS WE ACTUALLY HOPE TO DO A PRESENTATION ON AT THE NEXT MEETING OF TAC. AND THAT PROVIDES AN OVERVIEW OF THE DIFFERENT SERVICE THAT'S OPERATED ON THE 1 0 1 CORRIDOR, INCLUDING SMART SERVICE MM-HMM AND WHAT THE FUTURE OF THAT SERVICE SHOULD LOOK LIKE FOR THE INNER CITY REGIONAL. AND THEN WHICH OPERATORS ARE PROVIDING THAT KIND OF AGNOSTIC OF WHO'S CURRENTLY DOING IT. AND SO THAT STUDY WON'T BE COMPLETED FOR SEVERAL MORE MONTHS, BUT THE OUTCOMES OF THAT WILL BE PART OF THE DISCUSSION FOR POSSIBLY LOOKING AT THIS FORMULATION GOING FORWARD BEYOND KIND OF THE SHORT TERM MODIFICATIONS THAT WERE PASSED LAST NIGHT BY THE SCTA BOARD. SO, SORRY, THAT'S A LOT OF TECHNICAL HISTORY AND BACKGROUND ON HOW THAT WORKS. BUT THE BIGGEST PIECE IS I THINK IT REALLY IMPACTS, UH, PETALUMA FUNDING, MORE MONEY COMING IN OUR POCKET AND IT'S GREAT MONEY THAT CAN BE OPERATING OUR CAPITAL. SO IT'S A GREAT DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR QUITE A WHILE. UH, WITH THAT I'M HAPPY TO PASS IT ON TO MARIA TO PROVIDE HER UPDATES. [01:25:03] I THINK I COVERED MOST OF EVERYTHING WHEN I TALKED ABOUT THE MICRO TRANSIT. UM, FAIR FREE, GREAT JOB ON THE RIDERSHIP NUMBERS. MINE'S JUST SAYING THAT THE STICKERS ARE ALL ON, ON THE SIDE OF THE BUS , WE'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT, UM, OPPORTUNITIES ALSO TO HAVE THE BUSES IN, LIKE THE VETERANS DAY PARADE. THERE'S A TRUCK OF PALOOZA, DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT. SO NOW WE HAVE THE DECISION OF DO WE USE THE BIG BUS OR DO WE USE LUMA GO. SO IT'S BEEN FUN TO KIND OF WORK ON THAT. UM, OTHER THAN THAT, NEXT, I THINK, UH, MARKETING WILL BE FOCUSING A LOT MORE ON PARATRANSIT ONCE MICRO KIND OF WRAPS UP AND THEN SOME OTHER MAJOR PROJECTS THAT I LOOK FORWARD TO SHARING WITH YOU. THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE? YEAH, JUST A COUPLE QUICK ITEMS. UH, FOR THE NEXT AGENDA, OF COURSE, OUR TENTATIVE DATE RIGHT NOW IS TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 19TH. AND A COUPLE OF ITEMS WE'RE LOOKING AT BRINGING BEFORE YOU ONE IS THAT MASCOTS DRAFT REPORT. SO, UM, WE'RE ANTICIPATING A PRESENTATION ON THAT. SO LOOK FORWARD TO THAT ITEM. AND THEN THE REGIONAL ZERO MISSION BUS PLAN WAS, UM, IN DRAFT FORM RIGHT NOW BY MTC ADOPTED OVER UPCOMING MONTHS. SO WE'LL ALSO INCLUDE THAT SO YOU CAN SEE MORE INFORMATION BEYOND PETALUMA FOR THE REGION OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH ELECTRIFICATION OF BUS FLEETS. AND THAT IS IT, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU. THAT IS THE LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA. AND WITH THAT, WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 6 27. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.