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ALRIGHT, I'M GONNA CALL TO ORDER THIS MEETING OF THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, OCTOBER 16TH, 2024.AND TO KICK OUR MEETING OFF, UH, CLERK, CAN YOU PLEASE DO ROLL CALL? YES.
UH, I'M NOT SEEING ON OUR OKAY.
[GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT]
LATER.UM, SO MOVING ON THEN TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
I'LL ASK THE CLERK IF WE RECEIVED ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ONLINE.
THEN WE DO HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD FOR EVE O'ROURKE.
UH, SO EVE, IF YOU'D LIKE TO STEP TO THE PODIUM AND WE WILL SET THE TIMER FOR THREE MINUTES.
UM, I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE STREET TREES OF PETALUMA AND THE WAY THEY'RE BEING PRUNED.
I RECENTLY WENT DOWN TO THEATER SQUARE AND I SAW AN EGREGIOUS EXAMPLE OF HORRIBLE, EMBARRASSING PRUNING THAT'S BEEN DONE.
AND, UM, I WISH THAT EVERYBODY COULD COME DOWN WITH ME AT ANY TIME TO MEET WITH ME AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT WHY THEY ARE SO BAD, WHY THIS CAN NEVER BE DONE.
AND, UM, EVEN THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE A GREAT PRUNING RECORD.
AND I'M JUST SO CONCERNED ABOUT THIS.
YOU'VE GOT, UM, COOL PETALUMA NOW THAT YOU'RE WORKING WITH, YOU'VE GOT RELIEF.
THEY'RE BENDING OVER BACKWARDS TO TRY TO COOL THIS CITY DOWN.
WHEN THE CITY IS OUT HERE TOPPING TREES, CUTTING WAY TOO MUCH, CUTTING ALL THE COOLING SHADE AWAY, SENDING IT OFF IN THE CHIPPER, IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE DONE.
AND I WANT YOU, I ASKED YOU PLEASE, WITH YOUR POWER TO DIRECT, UH, PUBLIC WORKS AND PARKS TO STOP PRUNING RIGHT NOW UNTIL WE CAN AGREE ON AN AESTHETIC AND PROPER PRUNING TECHNIQUES.
I COULD ANSWER QUESTIONS WE DON'T DO BACK AND FORTH QUESTION AND ANSWER.
WHAT'S YOUR CHANCE TO MAKE YOUR COMMENT? I THINK, I THINK THAT'S ABOUT IT.
UM, I'M EXTREMELY CONCERNED ABOUT, ABOUT STREET TREES IS ONE THING I'M ALL ABOUT IS SHADE.
CUTTING IT AWAY AND, AND MUTILATING THE TREE FOREVER IS, IT'S JUST WRONG AND IT'S BEING DONE DAILY.
I CAN, I CAN SHOW YOU I'D, I'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU ALL COME DOWN THERE AND TAKE A LOOK.
UM, BEFORE WE MOVE TO PRESENTATIONS, JUST TO BRIEFLY RESPOND TO THAT, I WILL SAY THAT THIS COMMITTEE IS KEENLY AWARE OF SOME OF THE ISSUES YOU'VE BROUGHT UP AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY IS ACTIVELY TAKING ACTION ON ALONG WITH PARTNERS LIKE RELIEF OVER THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS.
I THINK YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF MOVEMENT IN THAT DIRECTION, BUT PLEASE ALWAYS SEND FEEDBACK, UH, THAT REALLY HELPS TO SEND THOSE EXAMPLES AND THAT KIND OF THING INTO THE CITY.
[PRESENTATIONS]
PUBLIC COMMENT, THEN WE WILL MOVE RIGHT INTO PRESENTATIONS.AND OUR FIRST PRESENTATION IS ON THE DENMAN REACH AND LIGHTING LANDSCAPE ASSESSMENT DISTRICT TREE PLANTING SEASON 2024 THROUGH 2025 WITH RELIEF PETALUMA.
AND SO I GUESS WE'LL TEE UP OUR PRESENTER FROM RELIEF.
I'M THE PROGRAMS MANAGER WITH RELIEF PETALUMA.
AND LIKE, UM, DARREN SAID, I'M HERE TO PRESENT SOME THE BEGINNINGS OF OUR 24 25 SEASON PLANTINGS.
SO, UM, THE FIRST ONE WILL BE DENMAN REACH.
UM, IT'S A OPEN SPACE AREA WHERE IT, UM, WHICH WILL BE A MIX OF PLANTING POTTED PLANTS, UM, AND ALSO SEEDLINGS AND ALSO ACORNS, UM, IN ORDER TO, IT'LL BE PART OF OUR RE OAKING PROGRAM, BUT WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH THE CITY AND, UM, WITH, UH, WATER CONSERVATION.
AND I GUESS THIS AREA WAS PLANTED AT ONE TIME FOR MITIGATION AND SOME OF THOSE TREES AND PLANTS DIDN'T WORK OUT BECAUSE THERE WAS TOO MUCH FLOODING.
AND SO THEY HAVE A LIST OF PLANTS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE US TO PLANT ALSO.
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I SUPPOSE, UM, TO THE, TO THE SLIDE BEFORE, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT FUNDING FOR THIS CITY OF PETALUMA PROJECT IS PROVIDED BY THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT AND THE USDA FOREST SERVICE URBAN AND COMMUNITY FOREST PROGRAM.AND WILL BE WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS, CITY OF PETALUMA REBUILDING TOGETHER PETALUMA PEOPLE SERVICES AND POINT BLUE WHO HAS BEEN, UM, TEACHING US THE WAYS OF ACORNS
SO DENMAN REACH IS A REALLY BIG AREA, SO I JUST PUT IT IN DIFFERENT PHASES, UM, BECAUSE, UH, IT'S SO LARGE.
AND YOU CAN SEE FROM THE SLIDE WHAT I TRIED TO SHOW YOU IS THE BLUE DOTS ARE TREES THAT WE CAN FILL IN.
UM, OUR MAIN GOAL IN DENMAN REACH IS TO PROVIDE SHADE AND COOLING TO THE PARK USERS ALONG THE TRAIL.
SO WE'RE FOCUSED ALONG THE TRAIL, BUT UM, WE'RE ALSO FILLING IN SOME AREAS, UM, THAT COULD USE A LITTLE BIT MORE SHADE.
UM, IN THE AREA, IN THE LEFT CORNER, THERE'S A SIGN THAT PEOPLE COULD READ, BUT IT'S WAY OUT IN THE BAKING SUN.
SO WE'RE GONNA PLANT A FEW TREES AROUND IT TO SHADE IT, BUT KEEPING THE VIEW OF THE OPEN SPACE.
UM, AND THEN, UH, ALONG THE TRAILS THAT PEOPLE USE AND THE BLUE LINES ALONG THE CREEK, THOSE WILL BE A LINE OF TREES 40 FEET APART.
UM, AND SO WE'RE JUST CREATING MORE OF A BUFFER ALONG THE CREEK.
UM, BUT WE WERE MINDFUL TO KEEP THE CENTRAL PART OPEN, UM, SO THAT THERE'S PLENTY OF GRASSLAND AND OPENNESS IN THE PARK.
SO IN THAT ONE AREA WE CAN APPROXIMATELY MAYBE PLANT 62 TREES AND THOSE WOULD BE LOCALLY NATIVE TREES.
UM, SOME OF WHICH WELL WE'LL GET TO THE LIST AT AT THE LATER SLIDE.
SO THE NEXT PART OF DENMAN REACH IS PHASE TWO.
UM, SO THIS PART REALLY FOCUSES ALONG THE TRAIL, UM, WHICH IS BEHIND THE STRAUSS CREAMERY OPERATIONS.
AND SO WE WILL BE PROBABLY FITTING IN ABOUT 23 TREES THERE, KEEPING 10 FEET FROM THE SIDEWALK.
UM, THERE IS LIKE A SWALE IN THE SIDEWALK, SO WE JUST NEED TO FIGURE OUT, UM, EXACTLY HOW MANY TREES CAN FIT IN THE AREA AND KEEPING WITHIN ALL THE PARAMETERS OF PLANTING.
UM, AND UM, YEAH, SO PROBABLY 23 TREES IN THAT AREA, MOSTLY AROUND ALONG THE SIDEWALK.
AND THEN THE NEXT PHASE, UM, IS, UH, THERE ARE SOME OF THESE MITIGATION PONDS THERE.
AND I DID, UM, WALK THIS SITE WITH ORA FROM THE CITY AND SHE, UM, SORT OF OVERSAW THIS AREA AND UM, AND TOLD US THAT IT WAS FINE TO PLANT TREES ALONG THE PATHWAYS AND ALONG THE EDGES OF THE MITIGATION PONDS.
AND THE ONLY THINGS THAT WE HAD TO BE CAREFUL OF WERE THE STORM DRAINS THAT GO INTO THERE.
UM, SO YOU KNOW, WHEREVER THERE'S A PARK BENCH, WE'LL PUT A TREES AND THEN WE'LL SORT OF 40 FEET EVERY 40 FEET, YOU KNOW, WE COULD PUT A TREE FOR SHADE AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE WALKED THAT AREA, BUT IT'S REALLY HOT IN THE SUMMERTIME.
SO PROBABLY ABOUT 83 TREES THERE.
AND THEN THE LAST PHASE IS DENIN REACH FOUR.
AND THIS SLIDE IS DIFFERENT IN THAT THE AREAS THAT WE'RE AVOIDING ARE IN THOSE YELLOW AREAS.
THOSE ARE WETLAND SORT OF AREAS THAT WE WILL AVOID.
SO WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL SORT OF DO A SIMILAR TREE PLANTING ALONG THE PATHWAYS AND AROUND BENCHES.
UM, AND THERE ARE ARE A COUPLE DRY AREAS WHERE WE COULD MAYBE PUT A GROUP OF A FEW TREES, UM, BUT PROBABLY BASED ON MY MEASURING, UH, PROBABLY 70 TREES COULD FIT IN THERE.
AND UM, SOME OF THE SPECIES THAT WE'RE GONNA BE USING ARE ARROYO, WILLOW BOX ELDER, UM, NORTHERN CALIFORNIA, BLACK WALNUT, A VARIETY OF OAKS INCLUDING VALLEY BLACK AND COAST LIVE, OAK, OREGON, ASH, WESTERN SYCAMORE AND WHITE ALDER.
AND, UM, SOME OF THESE TREES ARE ON THE LIST THAT THE CITY WOULD LIKE US TO PUT IN.
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UM, THE EXCITING THING ABOUT THIS DENMAN REACH PLAN IS THAT THROUGH THE, UM, WE DID RECEIVE A GRANT, UH, WELL ACTUALLY REBUILDING TOGETHER.PETALUMA WROTE FOR A GRANT FOR THE AMERICORPS.
SO PART OF WHAT THE AMERICORPS WILL BE DOING IS HELPING US PLANT AT LEAST PHASE ONE OF, UM, DEN AND REACH.
SO THEY'LL GET EXPERIENCE PLANTING, RESIDENTIAL, BUT ALSO UM, PLANTING AND OPEN SPACE.
SO THIS IS THE GENERAL PLANTING PLAN TO ADD TREES TO ENHANCE THIS PARK EXPERIENCE WITH COOLING CANOPY.
COVER ALONG THE TRAILS, ADD TREES ALONG THE CREEK TO HELP PROTECT CREEK CORRIDORS.
KEEP GRASSLANDS OPEN, BE MINDFUL OF ESTABLISHED UNDER RESTORING PLANTINGS.
UH, AVOID WETLAND AREAS MARKED ON THE MAP.
UM, WORKING WITH THE CITY WATER AND RESOURCES CONSERVATION MANAGER, THAT'S ORA ON SPECIES SELECTION IN CERTAIN SECTIONS.
AND WE'RE GONNA PLANT IN PHASES 40 FEET APART.
TREES WILL BE 40 FEET APART SO YOU CAN MOW AROUND THEM 10 FEET FROM SIDEWALKS AND KEEPING THE CULVERTS CLEAR IN THE MITIGATION PONDS.
YEAH, SO THAT'S THE OPEN SPACE.
AND THEN, UM, WE WILL BE DOING COMMUNITY OUTREACH.
WE'LL PUT UP OUR SANDWICH BOARD SIGNS, UM, SO THAT PARK USERS WILL BE ABLE TO KNOW THAT TREES ARE COMING.
AND THEN, UM, WE CAN WEEKEND TABLE AND ALSO LEAFLET BUSINESSES AREN'T REALLY RESIDENCES NEARBY.
UM, SHOULD I TAKE QUESTIONS ON THIS OR GO THROUGH THE LAD ALSO? OKAY, GO THROUGH THE, SO, UM, WE HAVE TWO LABS PROPOSE THAT WE'D LIKE TO PLANT.
SO IT'S THE, UM, RAINIER AVENUE AND IT'S BETWEEN MARIA DRIVE AND SONOMA MOUNTAIN PARKWAY.
IT'S A REALLY HOT AREA THAT IS MOSTLY TREELESS AND UM, WE HAVE BEEN ENCOURAGED BY THE CITY TO HELP PLANT TREES IN THESE AREAS, UM, TO HELP WITH THE HEAT ISLAND EFFECT AND TO MAKE IT MORE BENEFICIAL FOR BIKE RIDERS AND PEOPLE WALKING AND THE HOMEOWNERS RIGHT THERE.
SO, UM, WE WOULD BE PLANTING DROUGHT TOLERANT TREES FROM OUR PALLET.
AND THEN THE OTHER LAD PROJECT WOULD BE CASA GRANDE, THE CORNER OF SOUTH MCDOWELL AND CASA GRANDE.
AND THAT'S ANOTHER, UM, VERY HOT AREA, WHICH IS TREELESS.
AND UM, WE WILL PROVIDE TREES FOR THAT AREA OR PROPOSING TO PROVIDE TREES FOR THAT AREA.
AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LISTENING TO THE PRESENTATION.
CINDY, DO WE TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON EACH PRESENTATION SEPARATELY? YES.
UH, SO YEAH, I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR COMMITTEE MEMBER QUESTIONS.
I WOULD SAY IN YOUR QUESTIONS DELINEATE IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DENMAN PIECE OR THE LANDSCAPE ASSESSMENT DISTRICT PIECE, UH, LOOKING IF ANY COMMITTEE MEMBERS HAVE QUESTIONS EVER, I, THE DENMAN AREA ISN'T ACCESSIBLE BY WATER TRUCKS, SO I WAS WONDERING WHAT THE PLANS ARE FOR WATERING THE SPECIES.
THAT'S SUCH A FUNNY LITTLE KIND OF AN ORPHAN PARK, BUT WHEN I'VE GONE THERE, IT SEEMS TO BE WELL UTILIZED AND, AND ULTIMATELY IF IT CONNECTS WITH THE, A TRAIL ALONG THE RIVER, IT'LL BE WONDERFUL TO HAVE IT ALREADY BE PLANTED OUT.
UM, WELL WHEN I WAS TALKING TO ORA FROM, UM, UM, SHE SAID THAT THERE'S ACTUALLY IRRIGATION THERE.
SO THERE'S IRRIGATION AND THERE'S TUBING AND WE CAN HOOK UP TO IT.
AND THEN THE TREES ALONG THE TRAIL, IF THEY'RE NOT ACCESSIBLE TO IRRIGATION, WE COULD USE OUR WATERING, WELL REBUILDING TOGETHER.
PETALUMA COULD USE THEIR WATERING SETUP, WHICH IS A WATER BUFFALO PULLED BY EITHER A TRUCK OR A TRICYCLE
YEAH, BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT, IT IS VERY HOT THERE.
WELL, I GUESS EVERYWHERE HAS BEEN THIS OCTOBER.
I'VE USED THAT TRAIL WITH MY KIDS BEFORE AND YOU KNOW, THEY WANT, HAVEN'T WANTED TO STAY LONG 'CAUSE IT WAS TOO HOT.
ELY, ANY OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBERS QUESTIONS, BILL? YEAH, UH, VERY EXCITING, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
AND I WAS CURIOUS A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THE, WHAT THE TERRAIN IS LIKE ON THE LANDSCAPE ASSESSMENT DISTRICT ALONG THE, UH, RAINIER BOULEVARD THERE.
IS IT, IS IT LIKE ON THE STREET OR IS IT BETWEEN THE SIDEWALK AND THE STREET OR IS IT FURTHER REMOVED? UM, I MIGHT BE
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BETTER ABLE TO ANSWER THAT.YEAH, SO BETWEEN SNOW MOM, TIM PARKWAY AND RAINIER ON THE SOUTH SIDE, THERE'S A FRONTAGE.
SO IT'S THE AREA BETWEEN THE SIDEWALK AND THE SIDEWALK WALL FENCE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO RIGHT NOW, IF YOU WERE TO GO OVER THERE, IT LOOKS PRETTY JUST OPEN.
THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT THERE.
MAYBE ONE OR TWO TREES IN MOST OF THAT AREA.
I THINK WHEN YOU GET CLOSER TO RAINIER, I MEAN CLOSER TO SONOMA MOUNTAIN PARKWAY, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, VEGETATION, BUT KIND OF LIKE HALF A BLOCK IN TO ALL THE WAY TO MARIA.
IT'S PRETTY OPEN AND JUST NOTHING BUT A PATHWAY.
THERE'S A GOOD SIDEWALK THERE.
GREAT, THANK YOU BILL MARYANNE.
OKAY, UM, I'LL GIVE A QUICK QUESTION ON THAT LANDSCAPE ASSESSMENT DISTRICT.
CAN YOU TALK ABOUT JUST THE MECHANISM THAT I GUESS INSPIRED THIS AND WHETHER WE CAN SEE MORE PROJECTS LIKE THIS? UM, BECAUSE I THINK SEEING THAT IS REALLY EXCITING AND HEARING THE CITY TAKE THE LEAD WITH RELIEF, REPLANTING STREET TREES IS SOMETHING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT PRETTY OFTEN.
SO CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THAT CAME ABOUT AND IF WE'LL SEE MORE OF IT? YEAH, I MEAN, I CAN PROBABLY BETTER ANSWER THIS THAN CAROLYN, SO IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'LL, IS IT OKAY IF I ANSWER FOR YOU? SO IT'S A DISCUSSION THAT RELIEF AND I HAVE HAD OFF AND ON FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS ABOUT THE LEDS IN PARTICULAR AND WHERE THERE'S A LACK OF TREES, WHETHER IT WAS, THERE USED TO BE TREES AND THEY ARE NO LONGER THERE, OR IT JUST, THERE WAS NEVER A NUMBER OF TREES.
UM, AND THIS PARTICULAR FRONTAGE CAME UP AS AN AREA BECAUSE THERE'S, I THINK IF YOU GO THERE AND YOU SEE IT, AND I DO ENCOURAGE YOU GUYS ALL JUST TO GO TAKE A LOOK, THERE'S MAYBE ONE TREE IN THAT AREA.
SO WE, WE HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS LIKE, HOW, HOW CAN WE MAKE THIS HAPPEN BECAUSE IT'S AN ASSESSMENT DISTRICT, RIGHT? LIKE IT'S NOT A CITY FACILITY OR A PARK.
UM, BUT WHEN THE CITY WENT FOR THE FORESTRY GRANT, WE WROTE INTO THAT GRANT TO FUND PLANTING 150 TREES IN ASSESSMENT DISTRICTS.
SO THIS IS WHERE THAT STEMMED FROM AND THE KIND OF FIRST STEP OF LIKE, HOW DO WE GET TREES IN, INTO ASSESSMENT DISTRICTS WITHOUT ADDING MORE COST TO THE DISTRICT RIGHT? TO PAY FOR AND TO PLANT THE TREES.
AND THEN RELIEF CAME IN AS THE PARTNER TO PLANT THEM TO, YOU KNOW, SCOPE OUT SPECIES AND PLANT THEM.
SO THIS IS THE FIRST OF THE 150 TREES.
SO I'M, I'M SURE AT SOME POINT IN THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS YOU'LL SEE A COUPLE MORE PLANTING PLANS AS WE REVIEW THE ASSESSMENT DISTRICTS.
I LIKE PILOTING THIS AND MOVING US MORE TOWARD SOME RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE CITY TREES AND THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY THERE.
UM, I WILL NOW, ASSUMING THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBER QUESTIONS, I WILL NOW OPEN IT UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM, UH, FOR THE DEON REACH AND LIGHTING LANDSCAPE ASSESSMENT DISTRICT TREE PLANTING.
UM, CLERK, DID WE GET ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR THIS ITEM? OKAY.
AND ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, I DON'T SEE PEOPLE FRANTICALLY RUNNING TO GET A CARD, SO I ASSUME WE DON'T HAVE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.
UH, SO I'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE FOR ANY CLOSING COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON THIS PRESENTATION ITEM.
I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR, UH, ALL THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING.
I THINK, UM, THE FACT THAT YOU'RE, YOU'VE STRATEGICALLY FIGURED OUT A WAY TO START ADDRESSING THIS SITUATION WITH STREET TREES IS FANTASTIC AND I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO, I'M GONNA, I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT DENMAN REACH, SO I WANT TO GO OUT THERE AND TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
AND IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE TAKEN STEPS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A GOOD BALANCE BETWEEN OPEN SPACE VIEWS AND TREES AND SHADE.
WE'RE TRYING AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, UM, I MEAN, WE'RE JUST SO APPRECIATIVE TO THE CITY AND ALL THE CITY PEOPLE WHO ARE SUPPORTIVE OF TREES AND RELIEF AND WANTING TO MAKE PETALUMA A BETTER PLACE.
WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH CAROLYN FOR THE PRESENTATION.
SO THEN WE'LL MOVE TO OUR SECOND PRESENTATION OF THE AFTERNOON, AND THIS IS A PRESENTATION ON THE LUCCHESE SKATE PARK 50% DESIGN PRESENTATION.
AND SO I GUESS WITH NO FURTHER ADO, WE WILL PUT IT OVER TO OUR PRESENTER.
UM, JOSH MINSHAW, UM, PUBLIC WORKS.
UH, SO I PICKED UP THIS PROJECT FROM BJORN, UM, A LITTLE WHILE AGO AND WE'RE BRINGING IT FORWARD.
UM, SO, UM, LET ME PULL UP THE PRESENTATION OR CATHERINE, YOU CAN SHARE SCREEN, I BELIEVE.
YEAH, JUST GOTTA DO SOME CLICKS,
UM, SO WE CAN GO OVER THE, UM, PROJECT SCOPE AND GOALS AND, UM, REALLY WHAT WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT IS THE, THE TREES THEMSELVES, UM, AS IT RELATES TO THE PROJECT.
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THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS VERY INTERESTED IN ANY UPDATES THAT WE CAN GIVE THEM.UM, SO IN THAT MIND, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF THE BACKGROUND.
UM, YOU KNOW, SO THIS HAS BEEN THROUGH SEVERAL PUBLIC MEETINGS.
UH, WE'VE GOT A LIST OF WORKSHOPS, UM, TO RMPC AND CITY COUNCIL.
UM, AND OUR LAST MEETING WAS A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, UH, IN MAY.
AND REALLY WHAT WE DID WAS WE, UM, TRIED TO FRAME THIS AS A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COMMUNITY, THE USERS, THE, THE, UM, PEOPLE WHO WILL BE, UM, DIRECTLY INVOLVED WITH THE USE AND, UM, REALLY MAKE IT SOMETHING THAT THEY COULD FEEL AN OWNERSHIP OF.
UM, AND SO THIS WAS THE CONCEPT THAT, UM, COLLECTIVELY, UH, THE, THE GROUP LANDED ON.
UM, AND IF YOU LOOK ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, UM, THAT IS, UH, THE EXISTING TENNIS COURTS AND THEN, UM, THERE IS A LINEAR, UM, KIND OF A STREET ELEMENT.
AND SO THAT WAS AN AREA THAT, UH, RECEIVED A LOT OF FEEDBACK.
UM, PEOPLE WERE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT, THOSE ELEMENTS IN PARTICULAR.
AND, UM, GIVEN THAT FEEDBACK, UM, AND OUR UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THIS PARK MAY BE USED IS THAT COULD BE ONE OF THE MORE FREQUENTED AREAS AMONG THE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS.
UM, TO THE LEFT IS LIKE A 10 FOOT DEEP BOWL, UM, WHICH REQUIRES A BIT OF SKILL AND
UM, AND A LARGE AREA IN THE MIDDLE THAT HAS, UH, DIFFERENT FLOWING ELEMENTS.
AND, UM, WE'VE WORKED WITH GRIND LINE WHO, UM, KNOWS THE FLOW, HOW THIS THING, UH, REALLY WORKS WITH, YOU KNOW, THE MINUTIA OF THE GRADES AND SLOPES AND EVERYTHING.
SO ALL OF THESE ELEMENTS WHILE THEY LOOK LIKE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE KIND OF PIECED TOGETHER.
THEY'RE VERY CAREFULLY PLANNED OUT SO THAT THEY, UH, WORK WITH EACH OTHER.
UM, AND WHAT CAME OUT OF THIS WAS THAT THERE ARE A COUPLE TREES WE TRIED TO SQUEEZE EVERYTHING IN, BUT THERE ARE A FEW TREES WHERE THEY'RE RIGHT ON THE PERIPHERY.
AND WHEN WE WENT TO THE DETAILED DESIGN, UM, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S THREE OF THEM, UM, ONE ON THE TOP RIGHT, UM, AND THEN TWO ON THE BOTTOM LEFT.
AND, UH, THIS IS SET UP SO NORTH IS TO THE RIGHT.
SO THAT WOULD BE THE MARIA DRIVE SIDE, UM, WITH THE TENNIS COURTS ON THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE.
SO WHEN WE, UH, LOOKED AT THIS, WE WERE TRYING TO SEE HOW MUCH OF THESE TREES COULD WE, UH, AVOID THIS CONFLICT WITH.
UM, WE REALLY WENT THROUGH, UH, A WHOLE BUNCH OF ALTERNATIVES, UH, WHICH I'LL TALK ON IN A, IN A SECOND.
AND THEN ONE MORE TREE, UM, THAT'S A SMALLER CEDAR THAT, UH, WOULD BE IMPACTED BY ACCESSIBILITY IMPROVEMENTS.
SO THIS IS THE NOVAK DRIVE SIDE.
YOU CAN SEE THE TRA THE CIRCLE ON THE LEFT.
UM, AND IN ORDER TO GET THE, UH, REQUIRED ACCESSIBLE PARKING SPACES AS CLOSE TO THE NEW, UH, SKATE PARK AS POSSIBLE, AS WELL AS THE RESTROOM, UM, IT, IT BECOMES A CONFLICT.
UM, AND WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY, UM, ADJUST THIS A LITTLE BIT.
SO IT MIGHT NOT LOOK EXACTLY LIKE THIS, UM, IN ORDER TO PRESERVE SOME OF THE OTHER TREES NEARBY.
UM, IF YOU LOOK, THERE'S
THERE'S, THERE'S ANOTHER TREE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO KIND OF SHIFT THIS A LITTLE BIT TO TRY AND SAVE THAT ONE.
UM, BUT IN ALL, THERE WERE FOUR TREES THAT, UM, WE REALLY HAD A DIFFICULT TIME TRYING TO AVOID.
UM, SO THIS MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT EASIER VIEW.
UM, SO THE ONES THAT WOULD NEED TO BE REMOVED ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN RED.
AND THEN WE HAVE A, A FEW OTHER LARGE TREES, UM, THAT I WANTED TO JUST SPECIFICALLY NOTE THAT WE WILL, UH, AVOID DISRUPTION FOR, UM, AND MAINTAIN THOSE.
UM, AND WE'LL HAVE TO WORK WITH OUR ACCESS FOR CONSTRUCTION, UM, TO MAINTAIN ALL THE OTHERS.
UM, BUT UH, WE'VE GOT THE LONDON PLANE ON THE TOP SIDE, UM,
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AND THEN TWO ASH TREES, UM, NEAR THE TENNIS COURTS AND THEN THE CEDAR TREE DOWN BY THE PARKING.SO THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW WE TRIED TO WORK WITH, UM, AVOIDING AT LEAST, UH, ONE OF THOSE TREES.
UM, AND, UH, WE, WE LOOKED AT SHIFTING THE ENTIRE PARK, UH, TO THE NORTH.
WE LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, TWISTING SOME OF THE ELEMENTS.
UM, BUT EACH TIME WE DID THAT WE EITHER WOUND UP WITH MORE TREES REMOVED OR, UM, JUST BREAKING THE FLOW OF THE SKATE PARK.
AND, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS, YOU KNOW,
UM, SO BARRING A TOTAL REDESIGN, UM, WE, WE LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, OKAY, WHAT CAN WE DO TO MAINTAIN AS MANY OF THE TREES AS POSSIBLE? UM, THERE'S SOME OTHER TREES THAT, UM, I HAVEN'T HIGHLIGHTED.
UM, AND I'LL, IF YOU LOOK KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SCREEN, UM, AND I CAN PULL UP A, UH, THE PLANS LATER, UM, WHERE THE GRADING WILL HAVE TO CARVE OUT A LITTLE BIT OF SPACE FOR THEM.
AS, YOU KNOW, THE PARK ELEMENTS SLOPE DOWN TO 'EM, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, ROOT BARRIERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT, UH, WE THINK THAT WE CAN MAINTAIN THOSE.
UM, SO BACK IN JULY WE HAD URBAN FORESTRY ASSOCIATES, UH, COME OUT AND, AND, AND DO AN ARBORIST REPORT.
UM, AND THESE ARE SOME OF THE PHOTOS OF THE FOUR TREES THAT I MENTIONED.
UM, SO THAT LONDON PLANE AND ANGLED, UM, AND THEN THE CEDAR, UM, THE PHOTO DOESN'T QUITE GIVE IT JUSTICE, BUT IF YOU'RE OUT THERE YOU CAN SEE THAT THOSE CANOPIES ARE REALLY LIMITING, UM, WHAT THAT TREE CAN REALLY ACHIEVE.
AND THEN THESE ARE THE TWO ASH TREES, UM, ONE IN FAIR AND THE OTHER IN GOOD HEALTH.
AND THE GOOD HEALTH TREE WAS THE ONE THAT WE WERE REALLY TRYING TO SAVE WITH THOSE DESIGN ALTERNATIVES.
UM, SO THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE FINDINGS THAT CAME OUT OF THE, UM, ARBORIST REPORT.
UM, LIKE I MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CANOPY BEING LIMITED, UM, YOU KNOW, THE LEN PLANE, UH, WHILE IT'S IN FOR HER HEALTH DOES HAVE SOME, UH, INFECTION.
UM, BUT UH, IN TERMS OF THE ACTUAL, UH, CONSTRUCTION OF THE PARK, UM, WE WOULD INCLUDE THE ROOT BARRIERS FOR PROTECTED TREES.
UM, AND THEN, UH, DURING CONSTRUCTION, DO THE TREE PROTECTION.
UM, AND ANYTIME THAT WE'RE DOING LIKE ROOT PRUNING, WE'LL ALSO HAVE LIKE AN ARBORIST OUT THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT, UH, GOING EXCESSIVE.
SO THAT SAID, WITH THE FOUR TREES, UM, I DID TAKE A LOOK AT THE, UM, YOU KNOW, DRAFT GUIDELINES AND TRIED TO, UM, COME UP WITH A PLAN.
UM, THE ARBORIST, UH, UH, RECOMMENDED, YOU KNOW, UH, 10 TREES, 15 GALLON SIZE, UM, READING THE GUIDELINES IT WOULD BE 11 TREES IF MY MATH IS RIGHT.
UM, AND SO OUR PROPOSED MITIGATION WOULD BE TO ESSENTIALLY DEDICATE A PORTION OF THE PROJECT FUNDING TO ALLOW, UH, SOME, UH, TREE PLANTING.
UM, SIMILAR TO UH, LIKE THE RELIEF PROGRAMS WHERE WE CAN PUT THEM IN THE PARK, PUT THEM IN LOCATIONS WHERE IT REALLY MAKES SENSE FOR THE SKATE PARK.
ESPECIALLY AS YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPMENT STARTS TO OCCUR.
YOU CAN REALLY SEE IT INSTEAD OF TRYING TO GET IT PERFECT ON A PLAN, UM, FROM THE ONSET.
UM, AND SO WE WOULD BE USING TREES FROM THE UM, TREE PLANTING LIST.
UM, BUT AGAIN, UH, TRYING TO KEEP AS MUCH FLEXIBILITY AS WE CAN INSTEAD OF UM, REALLY TRYING TO NAIL DOWN EXACTLY WHERE EACH ONE'S GOING TO GO.
UM, SO WITH THAT, UM, I CAN OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? YEAH.
THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION JOSH.
UH, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO COMMITTEE MEMBERS FOR INITIAL QUESTIONS ON THE SKATE PARK PROJECT.
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I REALLY, UH, WELL I APPRECIATE THE, THE TO UM, THE ATTEMPT TO PRESERVE TREES.I DID HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE COMMENT THAT THE TREES THAT ARE GOING TO BE NECESSARY ARE GONNA HAVE TO BE REMOVED OR NOT ON THE TREES UPDATED, UH, TREE LIST.
SO WHAT LIST IS ARE YOU REFERRING TO? WE HAVEN'T UPDATED THE TREE LIST AND THOSE TREES ARE ON THE CURRENT TREE LIST, SO, UM, I CAN CROSS CHECK THAT, BUT THAT'S WHAT, UM, I HAD SO I WASN'T AWARE THAT WE HAD.
UM, SO I THINK, OH, MAYBE I'LL STEP IN JOSH, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
YEAH, I THINK HE'S REFERRING TO THE LIST WHEN THE IZO AND IN PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, THERE IS A LIST OF TREES THAT ARE PRESCRIBED BY THE CITY.
SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY IN OUR PARKS PLANTING PLANS ONLY THAT WE DO.
WE DON'T HAVE A PRESCRIBED LIST, BUT THE IZO REFERS TO THAT.
AND THEY DO HAVE CERTAIN NUMBER OF TREES THE SIZE THAT YOU REPLANT.
UM, AND IT'S LISTED IN THE TREE TECHNICAL MANUAL BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE IZO IS RIGHT NOW.
SO I'M PRETTY SURE THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO, CORRECT, JOSH.
SO IS THAT A LIST THAT DEVELOPERS REFER TO THEN SPECIFICALLY? YES.
UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE MEMBERS, BILL? WELL, I, YEAH, I GUESS I'D BE INTERESTED TO SEE HOW UM, YOU KNOW, SORT OF OUR MITIGATION PLAN HERE WOULD LINE UP WITH OUR POTENTIAL FUTURE TREE PROTECTION ORDINANCE, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU REDUCE YOU, YOU'RE TAKING OUT A TREE OF A CERTAIN SIZE THAT IT, YOU REPLACE IT WITH SMALLER BUT ADDITIVE TO, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY THE SAME CANOPY.
'CAUSE SOME OF THESE TREES ARE, ARE QUITE LARGE.
SO YEAH, I'D JUST BE, I, I THINK YOU ADDRESSED THAT, BUT MAYBE JUST IN TERMS OF THE TPO THAT WE'RE LOOK, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY ROLLING OUT SOON.
UM, SO THAT'S WHY I LISTED THE, UM, TRUNK SIZES THERE.
THOSE WERE FROM THE ARBORIST REPORT AND LOOKING AT THE NEW DRAFT IZO THAT REPLACEMENT 11 TREES AT THE 24 INCH BOX SIZE.
AND THERE'S, UM, WITHIN THAT YOU CAN EITHER DO A BIGGER BOX AND GET MORE DIAMETER SIZE, BUT, UM, GOING WITH 24 INCH, UM, OR SMALLER EVEN WOULD, UM, HELP THEM ESTABLISH WAS UM, WHAT I WAS GUIDED TO.
SO YOU WERE USING THE CALCULATIONS FROM OUR DRAFT UPCOMING ORDINANCE? YEP.
UM, MARYANNE OR ANY OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBER, ANY QUESTIONS? UH, THEN I'LL JUMP IN WITH JUST A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THE REPLANTING AND I APPRECIATE THAT ABOUT NEEDING THE PROJECT TO TAKE SHAPE BEFORE WE TRY TO PICK THAT IDEAL SPOT.
UM, THAT SAID, AND THIS IS MORE OF A CURIOSITY QUESTION, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THIS IS KIND OF A BIG CONCRETE, WE'RE JUST TALKING WITH RELIEF ABOUT HEAT ISLANDS.
IS THERE ENGINEERING AROUND SKATE PARKS WHERE SOME TREE COVER IS POSSIBLE OR ADVANTAGEOUS? OR IS IT GENERALLY BEST PRACTICE TO KEEP A PRETTY GOOD DISTANCE FROM THE SKATE PARK, I WOULD IMAGINE? YEAH.
UM, SO THERE'S THE STRUCTURAL ELEMENT OF THE CONCRETE, RIGHT? SO WE NEED TO PROTECT THAT.
UM, AND WITH THE, UH, SHAPE THAT THEY TRIED TO USE, UH, IT DOES ALLOW US TO GET SOME OF THE TREES CLOSER TO GET SOME OF MORE OF THAT SHADING THAN IF IT WAS JUST A BIG SQUARE.
UM, AND THEN, UH, WITH THE ACTION, THE SKATEBOARDING OR OTHER STUFF, UM, THE, THE DEBRIS FROM THE TREES CAN BE A CONCERN.
UM, AND AT, AND NOT JUST THE DEBRIS, IT COULD BE THE, THE SAP OR, OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO, UM, TRYING TO AVOID TOO MUCH LITTER, UM, AND STILL GIVE US THE BEST SHADE WE CAN.
EVERLY, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD? SO HOVERING OVER THE BOARD? NO, JUST, I MEAN THIS ISN'T A TREE TOPIC, BUT DO THEY, BECAUSE I WAS THINKING, YOU KNOW, YOU'D THIS HUGE EXPANSIVE CONCRETE AND GET, YOU KNOW, BUT YOU DON'T WANT LEAVES IN THERE AND ET CETERA.
BUT DO YOU, DO ANY PARKS EVER HAVE BIG CANOPIES OVER THEM? UH, SOME, I MEAN THEY MIGHT PUT IT UNDER AN OVERPASS,
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE, THE COST AND THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT.
UM, WHERE IF WE CAN USE A TREE, WE SHOULD USE A TREE.
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I'M JUST GONNA SAY THAT WHEN MY SON WAS GROWING UP, I, AND I WAS STILL A CHAUFFEUR.WE TOURED ALL OF THE, THE COOLEST SKATEBOARD PARKS UP AND DOWN THE COAST.
AND THIS COULD BE YET ANOTHER REASON WHY PEOPLE ARE COMING TO PETALUMA 'CAUSE THIS IS GONNA BE REALLY COOL.
UH, WELL THEN THANK YOU COMMITTEE MEMBERS FOR QUESTIONS.
I WILL NOW OPEN THIS ITEM UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT AND CATHERINE, I'LL CHECK IF WE RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS ONLINE PRIOR TO THE MEETING.
WELL THEN I'LL INVITE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO HAS A GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
I DON'T HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS AND I DON'T SEE ANYONE WALKING UP TO THE DAIS.
SO I I WILL ASSUME WE DO NOT HAVE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME.
SO I WILL BRING IT BACK TO COMMITTEE MEMBERS FOR ANY CLOSING THOUGHTS AND COMMENTS ON THIS PROJECT.
I THINK IT'S GONNA BE FANTASTIC.
UM, I, I AGREE THOUGH WITH EVER YOUR POINT EVERLY, I MADE A NOTE ABOUT THE SAME THING.
LIKE IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN PROVIDE SHADE IN SOME OTHER WAY, MAYBE EVEN JUST FOR SECTIONS HERE AND THERE, JUST TO AVOID THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT RADIANT HEAT COMING OFF OF HER.
JUST SOMETHING TO TO THINK ABOUT.
BILL, IS THERE A PLAN FOR THE OLDER SKATE PARK AT THIS TIME TO LEAVE IT AS IT IS? I, OKAY.
UH, WELL I'LL JUST ECHO THE THOUGHTS THAT THIS IS AN EXCITING PROJECT.
I APPRECIATE THE SENSITIVITY YOU GAVE TO TREES AND SHOE REPLACEMENT.
I'M IMPRESSED THAT YOU USED THE DRAFT IZO SO THAT KIND OF PREPARES US FOR THE FUTURE WHEN IT COMES TO MITIGATION.
UH, SO JOSH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
EXCELLENT.SO MOVING ON FROM OUR PRESENTATION ITEM.
NOW WE WILL MOVE TO APPROVAL OF MINUTES AND INSTEAD OF A ROLL CALL VOTE, WE WILL JUST ASK IF ANY COMMITTEE MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CHANGES TO THE MINUTES FROM THE SEPTEMBER 18TH, 2024 MEETING, NO CHANGES.
[PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION]
UH, AND MOVING FROM APPROVAL OF MINUTES, WE'LL GO RIGHT INTO PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION.AND THE FIRST ONE, I THINK FOR SOME OF THESE BEING A, A LITTLE SHORTHANDED ON THE COMMITTEE, UH,
BUT, UH, THE NEXT ONE IS, OR OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING IS FOR THE PLANNING DESIGN AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE DISCUSSION AND RECOMMENDATION TO ADD A THIRD AD HOC COMMITTEE MEMBER.
UH, AND CINDY, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT THIS? I THINK CHAIR MAY BE ASKING FOR A MOTION TO STAY THIS TO THE NEXT MEETING SINCE WE DON'T HAVE ALL MEMBERS PRESENT.
YEAH, I'D BE INCLINED TO DO THAT AS WELL.
UM, SO I WILL SEEK A MOTION TO EXTEND THIS ITEM TO THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING OF THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
CAN WE GET A ROLL CALL? VOTE EWING? YES.
AND THAT MOVES US RIGHT INTO THE NEXT PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH IS ITEM FIVE, THE STREET TREE AD HOC COMMITTEE PROGRESS UPDATE.
AND YOU'LL HAVE TO REMIND ME, CINDY IS COMMITTEE MEMBER EBERLY, ARE YOU PART OF THE STREET TREE AD HOC? AND DO YOU HAVE ANY UPDATES? UH, WELL I THINK THAT, UM, WE COULD PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR NOVEMBER, BUT IF THE TREE ORDINANCE IS NOT GONNA BE PRESENTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL IN DECEMBER, IF WE HAD MORE TIME, IT WOULD BE PREFERABLE TO HOLD OFF.
BUT THAT BEING SAID, WE CAN, WE CAN HAVE A LIST AVAILABLE, UM, AT LEAST A WEEK BEFORE THAT MEETING FOR EVERYONE ON THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO, TO LOOK AT.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT TO GET A PREVIEW OF THE STREET JUST TO START THIS DISCUSSION AND KEEP THE MOMENTUM GOING.
UM, SO I GUESS THEN WE WILL PLAN ON TRYING TO AGENDIZE THAT FOR NEXT MEETING AS WELL.
ANY COMMITTEE MEMBERS HAVE ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, ANYTHING TO ADD WHEN IT COMES TO THE STREET TREE AD HOC? OKAY, NOW SHOULD I OPEN FOR, OKAY, UH, WE WILL OPEN THIS FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
I'LL ASK THE CITY CLERK, DID WE RECEIVE ANY COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING? WE DID NOT.
AND THEN I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT HERE IN PERSON AT THE MEETING.
UH, I DO NOT SEE ANYONE FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC COMING UP TO GIVE A SPEAKER CARD AND I HAVE NONE HERE.
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WILL CLOSE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT AND AGAIN, BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE TO SEE IF ANYONE HAS ANY FINAL THOUGHTS, WISHES, QUESTIONS, DREAMS ABOUT THE STREET TREE AD HOC COMMITTEE.SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE ITEM FIVE AND WE'LL MOVE RIGHT INTO ITEM SIX, WHICH IS THE COMMUNICATION AND OUTREACH AD HOC COMMITTEE PROGRESS UPDATE.
AND I AM ACTUALLY THE LONE MEMBER HERE OF THE COMMUNICATION AND OUTREACH AD HOC COMMITTEE.
UH, SO WE HAVE NOT HAD A MEETING SINCE OUR LAST TREE COMMITTEE MEETING AND IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN SOME TIME BEFORE OUR LAST COMMUNICATION AND OUTREACH, UH, MEETING, YOU KNOW, PREVIOUSLY WE HAD MET WITH STAKEHOLDERS IN OTHER CITIES AND INTERNALLY IN PETALUMA TO TRY TO GET IDEAS ABOUT TREE POLICY AND FRESH IDEAS ABOUT DIRECTIONS WE COULD GO WHEN IT CAME TO STREET TREES.
UM, AT THIS TIME I THINK THE BEST PLAN OF ACTION MOVING FORWARD IS FOR OUR AD HOC TO MEET AND I THINK IT MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE TO DETERMINE THE FUTURE OF THE AD HOC.
CINDY, CAN YOU REMIND ME, DID WE HAVE AN EXPIRATION ON THAT AD HOC? FEBRUARY, 2025.
FROM MY MEMORY, I'M PRETTY SURE I WILL DOUBLE CHECK THOUGH.
I'M, I'M GONNA TRUST YOUR MEMORY ON THAT, BUT I THINK THE DIRECTION FOR THAT AD HOC WILL LIKELY BE TRYING TO FIND KIND OF A GOOD TOPIC OR SCOPE TO FOCUS ON, UM, PRIOR TO FEBRUARY AND THEN ASSESS, UH, WHAT THAT COMMITTEE LOOKS LIKE MOVING FORWARD.
SO THAT'S MY LIMITED PRESENTATION IF ANYONE ON THE COMMITTEE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, THOUGHTS, AND FEEDBACK ON THE COMMUNICATION AND OUTREACH AD HOC.
WITH NOTHING FROM THE COMMITTEE, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT AND I'LL ASK OUR CLERK IF WE HAD ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING WE DID NOT.
AND THEN WE'LL OPEN IT UP FOR IN-PERSON GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
AND AGAIN, NO ONE COMING UP WITH SPEAKER CARDS.
SO WE WILL CLOSE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT AND I'M GONNA ASSUME WITH THE COMMITTEE THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS AD HOC, WE KINDA HAVE A PLAN MOVING FORWARD.
UH, SO I'LL MOVE US RIGHT INTO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, WHICH IS THE ARBOR DAY AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE PROGRESS UPDATE.
AND CINDY, DO YOU HAVE ANY PREFACE OR ANY UPDATE FROM YOUR END? SURE.
SO INTERNALLY, UM, AND THE AD HOC HASN'T HAD A CHANCE TO MEET OR DISCUSS SINCE I SPOKE TO DEB FOX EARLIER TODAY.
SO THIS IS REALLY QUITE CURRENT.
UM, AND THE THOUGHT OF HAVING A JOINT BIGGER FESTIVAL SLASH SUSTAINABILITY SLASH EARTH DAY EVENT THAT COINCIDES WORKING WITH ALSO WITH POSSIBLY COOL PETALUMA AND THE WORK THAT THEY DO IN THEIR EVENT.
SO THE AD HOC I WILL BRIDGE TOGETHER, UM, WITH THE GROUPS TO SEE IF WE CAN HAVE SYNERGY FOR A BIGGER EVENT POSSIBLY AT THE FAIRGROUNDS, SPOKE INTERNALLY WITH THE RECREATION TEAM TO SEE IF THAT'S POSSIBLE, UM, AND TO, YOU KNOW, INCORPORATE WHAT TREATABLE WAS, WHICH WAS MUSIC AND A TREE EVENT AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, FOOD EVENTS.
SO TO MAKE IT REALLY A ONE PETALUMA EVENT THAT ENCOMPASSES A LOT INCLUDING ARBOR DAY.
THE AD HOC WILL PROBABLY HAVE A LOT OF UPDATES TO COME THIS YEAR AND I THINK WE MAY SEE SOMETHING DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE'VE DONE IN PAST YEARS, BUT I THINK ALL REALLY, REALLY POSITIVE.
AND CAN YOU REMIND US THE, UH, MEMBERS OF THE AD HOC? I KNOW IT'S MYSELF AND MARIANNE, I BELIEVE BILL OR CAN YOU REMIND US THE MEMBERSHIP? IT'S YOU, IT'S BILL MARIANNE'S NOT ON IT THIS YEAR.
I THOUGHT YOU WERE NO, THAT IT'S THE TWO OF YOU BECAUSE MARYANNE'S NOT ON IT.
HOWARD'S NOT ON IT AND I, TARYN WAS NOT EVERYBODY SAID THEY WOULD HELP, BUT IT WAS REALLY THE TWO OF YOU LEADING IT.
OH, MAYBE ROGER, WE'LL LOOK AT THE MINUTES, WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT THE MINUTES, BUT IT'S FOR SURE THE TWO OF YOU.
SOUNDS LIKE, SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED TO CHECK THE MINUTES AND IT SOUNDS LIKE OUR AD HOC WILL NEED TO SCHEDULE A MEETING BECAUSE GIVEN YOUR EXCITING UPDATE, I THINK THERE'LL BE A LOT TO TALK ABOUT.
AND OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A LOT TO BUILD ON FROM LAST YEAR.
WE HAVE A LOT OF NOTES, A LOT OF IDEAS THAT HAD WE HAD STARTED EARLIER COULD HAVE COME TO FRUITION.
SO WE'LL PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER ON THAT AND ROGER IS A PART OF THAT.
SO IT'S ROGER, MARYANNE, AND, UH, YOU DARREN.
I THOUGHT YOU SAID NO, I THOUGHT YOU WERE TRYING NOT TO BE ON.
DISCREDIT YOU THERE
NO, I THOUGHT THE PLANNING ONE WAS ROGER AND MARYANNE.
IS THAT THE, THAT'S THE ONE ABOUT THE TREE FIGURING OUT WHO'S GONNA EVALUATE YES.
YEAH, HE'S ON BOTH I'VE, I'VE DONE A LITTLE BIT OF GATHERING INFORMATION, BUT MARYANNE AND ROGER ARE THEN ON BOTH YEAH.
[00:45:01]
I'M GREAT.WELL THEN I FEEL LIKE WE'VE HAD A LITTLE DISCUSSION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? FEEDBACK FROM COMMITTEE MEMBERS ON ARBOR DAY? SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
AGAIN, I'LL ASK THE CLERK IF WE GOT ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING.
AND I WILL OPEN IT UP FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT FROM THE AUDIENCE JUST IN CASE THIS ONE SPARKED A LOT OF INTEREST.
BUT I DO NOT SEE ANYONE COMING UP WITH A SPEAKER CARD AT THIS TIME.
SO WE'LL CLOSE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT
[COMMITTEE COMMENT]
AND I BELIEVE IT IS SAFE TO MOVE ON FROM THIS ITEM AND GO DIRECTLY INTO COMMITTEE COMMENT.SO THIS IS A CHANCE FOR COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO GIVE ANY UPDATES PERTINENT TO OUR SUBJECT MATTER OR UPDATES REGARDING OTHER CITY MEETINGS OR LIAISON APPOINTMENTS.
UH, AND JUST TO START US OFF, I'LL START ON MY RIGHT SIDE.
MOVING OVER EBERLY, ANY COMMITTEE UPDATES TO SHARE? OKAY.
I'LL SHARE ONE ON PLANNING COMMISSION.
UH, WE HAD A BIG MEETING WITH THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION.
IT WAS A JOINT MEETING ON THE CLIMATE ACTION BLUEPRINT, WHICH IS A 170 PLUS PAGE DOCUMENT ON OUR GOALS RELATED TO CLIMATE INITIATIVES.
UH, THE STANDARD KIND OF GOALS, POLICIES AND ACTIONS, KIND OF HOW WE IMPLEMENT SOME OF THESE CHANGES.
THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT MATERIAL IN THERE, A LOT ABOUT TREES AND SOIL.
I THINK PEOPLE ON THIS COMMITTEE WOULD BE REALLY HEARTENED TO SEE THE AMOUNT OF COMMITMENT GOING INTO URBAN FORESTRY GOING INTO OUR FUTURE PLANS FOR HEALTHY, YOU KNOW, SEQUESTRATION URBAN FORESTS.
UM, AND THEN WE ALSO HAD A PLAN AND COMMISSION MEETING, I BELIEVE SINCE OUR LAST TREE COMMITTEE MEETING ON THE GENERAL PLAN LAND USE FRAMEWORK.
AND I JUST WANT TO GIVE ANOTHER KIND OF CALL OUT TO COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, UH, TO REALLY EXAMINE ALL OF THE GENERAL PLAN FRAMEWORKS AND GIVE FEEDBACK BECAUSE NOW'S THE TIME BEFORE THEY TRANSITION INTO GENERAL PLAN ELEMENTS.
THERE'S A LOT OF SUBJECT MATTER A LOT RELATED TO TREES, SOME OF WHICH WE'VE SEEN.
UH, BUT SPECIFICALLY THAT GENERAL PLAN LAND USE FRAMEWORK IS A BIG DOCUMENT WITH A LOT OF MEATY CHANGES ABOUT THE FUTURE OF LAND USE IN THE CITY.
UH, SO I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR EVERYBODY TO BROWSE THAT AND, AND SEE THE UPDATES AND, AND GIVE FEEDBACK.
UH, BUT THAT'S ALL I HAVE FROM PLANNING.
UH, SO BILL, ANY UPDATES OR COMMITTEE COMMENT? UH, NOT, NOT TOO MUCH HERE.
I JUST, UH, THAT I FORWARDED ON A, A NEIGHBOR ISSUE THAT ONE OF THESE TYPICAL CONFLICTS BETWEEN OUR, UM, A TREE AND THE SIDEWALK IN THIS CASE, IT'S A PRETTY EXTREME EXAMPLE AND THAT THE TREES ARE HERITAGE CAMPER TREES AND THE SIDEWALK IS IN, UH, PRETTY SERIOUS DISREPAIR.
SO I CAN UNDERSTAND FOLKS' DESIRE TO, YOU KNOW, IMPROVE THE, THE, THE CONCRETE AND THE SIDEWALK AND ALSO THE HOMEOWNER'S DESIRE TO PRESERVE THESE TREES.
AND I'M JUST HOPEFUL THAT OUR COLLECTIVE, UH, SUBCOMMITTEE CAN COME UP WITH SOME CREATIVE WAYS TO, TO KEEP, UH, TO, TO, TO KEEP THE TREE IN PLACE, BUT ALSO HAVE A SAFE PATH OF TRAVEL.
THANK, JUST, JUST ON MY BLOCK APPARENT, THE CITY HAS BEEN MARKING SIDEWALKS THAT ARE, UM, DISRUPTED AND I GOT CORNERED BY SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS.
ONE OF ONE OF THE SIDEWALKS THAT WAS DISRUPTED, UH, WAS A RESULT OF A TREE THAT I GAVE MY NEIGHBOR TO PLANT.
AND INTERESTINGLY IT WAS A GREAT MYRTLE, BUT IT HAS THIS BIG OLD ROUTE AND I'VE NEVER SEEN A CRATE MYRTLE DO THAT.
AND OF COURSE THEY HAPPEN TO LIVE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME AND THEY'RE QUITE UPSET
NOT ALL OF THEM WERE RELATED TREES, INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, BUT IT'S GONNA, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE ONE COMMENT I GOT FROM ONE NEIGHBOR WAS, YOU KNOW, VERY IRATELY AND WRONGLY SAYING THE TREE, THE CITY'S MAKING US PLANT THESE TREES AND THEN WHEN IT COMES TO FIX THE SIDEWALK, IT'S ALL ON US.
WELL, AND I THINK THIS BRINGS UP A GOOD POINT TO BUILD ON THAT, UH, CINDY, WHEN WE'VE SEEN THESE CONFLICTS IN THE PAST, I KNOW WE CAN BASICALLY POINT PROPERTY OWNERS TO OUR EXISTING TREE TECHNICAL MANUAL TO TRY TO NAVIGATE THESE ISSUES.
THERE IS AN AREA IN THERE ABOUT SIDE SIDEWALK CONFLICTS.
WHAT'S THE POSITION OF THE CITY THERE? I I'VE HEARD PREVIOUSLY PEOPLE TRY TO REQUEST REMOVALS TO PREVENT CONFLICTS.
I MEAN, IN TERMS OF A PROPERTY OWNER GETTING RESOLUTION.
SO THE CITY ISN'T UPSET ABOUT THE SIDEWALK BEING OUTTA COMPLIANCE.
WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT PATH LOOKS LIKE FOR PROPERTY OWNERS? I'M BE HONEST WITH YOU, I CAN'T SPEAK TO IT AND WE'D WANNA REACH OUT TO THE CITY ENGINEER'S OFFICE.
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'CAUSE REALLY THAT'S PART, THERE IS MINI CODE ABOUT THE SIDEWALKS AND THE REQUIREMENT OF THE PARCEL OWNER IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THEM.SO I JUST, I I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE SPEAKING FOR THAT OFFICE ON HOW THEY WOULD DEAL WITH THAT.
I THINK THEY WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO REACH OUT TO THEM AND LET THEM KNOW IF THE CONFLICT NUMBER ONE.
UM, BUT THERE'S JUST SOME THINGS THAT ARE IN THE MUNI CODE THAT WE CAN'T GET AROUND UNLESS WE CHANGE CODE.
AND I WONDER IF THAT'S PART OF THIS BROADER KIND OF POLICY UPDATE IS WE TALKED ABOUT THE TREE TECHNICAL MANUAL, BUT DEVISING STRATEGIES SO THAT WHEN NEW TREES ARE PLANTED, WE DO HAVE THAT DEEP ROOT WATERING MM-HMM.
SO THERE'S GONNA BE SOME PREVENTATIVE STEPS, BUT OBVIOUSLY WE'VE GOT A LOT OF FOLKS THAT ARE, THAT ARE FACING THAT, UH, SIDEWALK CONFLICT ISSUE ALREADY.
SO, UH, SOMETHING FOR THIS COMMITTEE TO DEFINITELY THINK ABOUT AND TRY TO TACKLE.
MAYBE WE CAN BRAINSTORM SOMETHING ABOUT THAT DISCUSSION.
UH, BUT THANK YOU BILL FOR VERY GOOD COMMITTEE COMMENT.
UH, MARIANNE, ANY UPDATES FROM PARKS AND REC OR ANY COMMITTEE COMMENTS? UM, I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING SPECIFICALLY.
UH, WE'RE, I AM WORKING ON THE, UM, GATHERING SOME DATA AND SOME JUST RESOURCES FOR THE, UH, PLANNING AND DESIGN FOR THAT COMMITTEE OR THAT GROUP.
SO WE'LL, WE'LL GET TOGETHER AND START PULLING SOME STUFF TOGETHER AND THEN OF COURSE ALL OF YOU WILL, I'M SURE BE ABLE TO HELP A LOT WITH YOUR COMMENTS AND FEEDBACK.
SO LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING ON THAT.
YEAH, YOU AND ROGER WILL HAVE SOME, SOME TOPICS TO COVER.
[STAFF COMMENT]
FOR COMMITTEE COMMENT.SO THEN I'LL MOVE TO CINDY FOR STAFF COMMENT.
WELL, YOU HEARD FROM RELEAF TODAY AND PART THEIR PLANNING PLAN FOR THE FALL THIS YEAR.
THEY DO HAVE AMERICORPS ONLINE.
THAT'S GONNA BE A DIFFERENT SHIFT FROM THE WAY THEY'VE DONE PLANTINGS BEFORE, BUT STILL REALLY EXCITING.
I'M EXCITED FOR PEOPLE WHO WANNA WORK IN THE FIELD OF SUSTAINABILITY AND CLIMATE ACTION AND, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE RIGHT OUTTA COLLEGE COMING.
SO THAT'S REALLY EXCITING TO HAVE THEM COMING TO PETALUMA FOR THE FIRST TIME FOR THIS KIND OF INTERNSHIP.
ONE OTHER MAJOR UPDATE I HAVE FOR YOU IS THAT WE'RE HOPEFULLY ROUTING AND GET OUR CONSULTANT ON BOARD TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE THE UFMP FORWARD.
UM, WE DID GO THROUGH, THERE'S, OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEARS WE'VE HAD FOUR, UM, KIND OF, YOU KNOW, BIDS COME IN WITH SCOPE AND COSTS AND BOTH MYSELF AND PATRICK REVIEWED THEM.
BEN ANDERSON REVIEWED IT AND WENDY JACOBS FU REVIEWED THE, THE SCOPES THAT CAME IN THE COSTS AND WE DID CHOOSE ONE CONTRACTOR.
SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO MOVE THAT FORWARD.
SO YOU'LL SEE IN THE NEXT YEAR THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF RAMP UP COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
UM, WE'LL GET THE CANOPY, YOU KNOW, ANALYSIS DONE AND THE INVENTORY WILL GET FINISHED.
SO THERE'S, IT'S GONNA BE A, A BIG PUSH IN THE NEXT YEAR, BUT WE'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT WAY.
SO YOU'LL GET SOME MORE UPDATES THERE THAT I'LL, I'LL BRING TO THE TREE COMMITTEE IN A FORMAL PRESENTATION AT SOME POINT.
BUT THOSE ARE THE UPDATES FROM STAFF.
WELL THAT'S DEFINITELY EXCITING NEWS.
I KNOW WE'RE ALL EXCITED FOR THE URBAN FORESTRY MANAGEMENT PLAN AND I'M JUST THINKING IS THERE ANY APPROACHING DEADLINE THAT SPECTER IS ALWAYS KINDA ON MY MIND.
ANY APPROACHING DEADLINE OR ANYTHING WE'RE UNDER FOR THAT? NO, WE HAVE THE NEXT YEAR, SO WORK HAS TO BE COMPLETE BY THE END OF 2025 AND THEN WE HAVE UNTIL MARCH OF 2026 TO FINALIZE WITH CAL FIRE.
SO I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH OUR FORESTER IN ON OUR PLAN AND WHERE WE'RE AT.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE RIGHT ON TRACK AS LONG AS WE KEEP ON TRACK.
I LIKE THE LEVEL OF CONFIDENCE IN 2025 WILL BE THE YEAR OF TREES AND URBAN FORESTRY IT SOUNDS LIKE.
AND I WILL SHARE WITH THE COMMITTEE HERE, ALL FOUR REVIEWERS WERE UNANIMOUS IN OUR CHOICE OF CONSULTANT TO GO WITH.
SO THERE IT WAS VERY CLEAR WHO THE BEST CONSULTANT WAS.
SO I'M FEELING REALLY GOOD ABOUT OUR CHOICE TOO.
WHAT, WHAT WAS THE NAME OF THE CONSULTANT? URBAN ECOS.
WELL THANK YOU SO MUCH CINDY FOR THAT UPDATE.
UH, THAT IS THE LAST ITEM ON OUR MEETING.
SO AT 4 24 I WILL ADJOURN MEETING OF TREE COMMITTEE.