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THE MEETING OF THE PETALUMA CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION FOR THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 14TH, 2024.
UM, CAN WE DO ROLL CALL? UM, ASHLEY, UH, PRESENT BAKER? PRESENT MUNSTER? HERE.
UH, NOW IS THE TIME FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON ITEMS OF PUBLIC INTEREST THAT ARE WITHIN THE COMMISSION'S SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION AND THAT ARE NOT LISTED ON THE CURRENT AGENDA.
PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO UP TO THREE MINUTES, BUT WE'RE MAKING A LITTLE EXCEPTION TODAY.
UM, DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF PERSONS WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, TIME WILL BE ALLOCATED IN EQUAL SHARES TOTALING NO MORE THAN 20 MINUTES SUBJECT TO THE COUNCIL OF DISCRETION.
[GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT]
WE OPEN GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT? OH, DID WE GET ANY PRIOR TO THE MEETING? UM, NO PRIOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.NATASHA, JULIANA, JULIANA
I'M THE CAMPAIGN DIRECTOR FOR COOL PETALUMA.
CAN WE SHARE SLIDES OR NO? THAT'S FINE.
UM, BUT I HAD SOME VISUAL VISUALS FOR YOU, BUT THAT'S OKAY.
I'LL JUST LET YOU GUYS KNOW THAT WE ARE.
UM, SO WE HAVE A COUPLE OF UPDATES.
WE'RE JUST HERE TO UPDATE YOU ON WHAT'S GOING ON, UH, FROM THE COOL, COOL PETALUMA ANGLE AND FROM A PUBLIC COMMUNITY OUTREACH ANGLE.
SO ONE OF OUR BIG PROJECTS RIGHT NOW IS WE'RE WORKING ON A BYO CAMPAIGN TO, UM, DOVETAIL WITH THE, THE ENDING OF THE PURPLE CUP CAMPAIGN, WHICH, UH, PEOPLE WERE, YOU KNOW, HAD PARTICIPATED IN THAT AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS GOING AWAY.
AND SO NOW THAT WE HAVE THIS MOMENTUM AROUND PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT WHAT THEY PUT THEIR COFFEE IN AND, AND WANTING TO BE ABLE TO USE SOMETHING RETURNABLE, WE FIGURED THE EASIEST AND SIMPLEST SOLUTION IS TO, UH, ENCOURAGE BYO.
AND SO LITERALLY I JUST CAME FROM A MEETING AT OUR OFFICE, UM, WHERE WE HAVE A TEAM OF VOLUNTEERS.
SO WE HAVE A TEAM OF VOLUNTEERS WORKING ON THIS.
IT WAS KIND OF CAPTURED THE PUBLIC'S IMAGINATION.
SO A BUNCH OF PEOPLE VOLUNTEERED TO HELP US.
AND A COUPLE OF THE THINGS WE'RE WORKING ON IS, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT JOINING A ORGANIZATION CALLED US REDUCES, WHICH IS WORKING ON, UH, BYO AND OTHER SIMILAR CAMPAIGNS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
SO IT'S A WAY TO LEARN BEST PRACTICES FROM THEM.
WE'VE ALSO, UH, JOHN CROWLEY, WHO HAPPENS TO BE ALSO A CAFE OWNER, AQUAS COM, UM, AQUAS CAFE.
HE'S BEEN GOING AROUND AND HAS ALREADY ENLISTED, UH, MANY OF THE LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT PARTICIPATE IN THE PURPLE CUP TO PARTICIPATE IN OUR NEW BI BYO CAMPAIGN.
SO WE'VE GOT THEM ON BOARD ALREADY.
WE'RE WORKING ON LOGOS AND WINDOW CLINGS AND REGISTER, UH, YOU KNOW, REMINDERS OF THE CASH REGISTER.
EVEN TONIGHT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME SORT OF INCENTIVE PROGRAM THAT PEOPLE COULD BE ENTERED INTO A DRAWING IF THEY BROUGHT THEIR OWN CUPS.
SO THERE'S SOME SORT OF BEYOND, UH, UH, UH, THAT CAN HELP GET PEOPLE MOTIVATED TO REMEMBER TO DO THIS.
SO WE'VE ALSO, WE'RE ALSO WORKING ON A WEBPAGE AND WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE VOLUNTEERING TO ORGANIZE STUDENTS TO CREATE SOME PSAS AROUND IT AS WELL.
SO LOTS OF GOOD PROGRESS GOING ON THERE.
JUST WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF A COUPLE OF THE CHALLENGES WE'VE NOTICED THAT CAME UP THAT MIGHT BE OF, UM, INTEREST TO THE COMMISSION.
ONE IS THAT THE DEFAULT, YOU'VE PROBABLY NOTICED THIS, THE DEFAULT IS NOW BECOME TO GO EVEN IF YOU ARE SITTING IN THE CAFE DRINKING IT THERE.
SO, YOU KNOW, TALKING TO WORKING WITH BUSINESSES TO TRY AND CHANGE THAT DEFAULT.
WE ALSO NOTICE THAT IF YOU ARE BUYING FOR HERE, I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY A STATE LAW, BUT YOU GET CHARGED TAX, WHEREAS IF YOU GET IT TO GO, YOU'RE NOT.
SO THERE'S A REVERSE INCENTIVE TO USE PEOPLE'S EXISTING CUPS IN CAFES.
THE OTHER THING WE NOTICED ARE THE TWO EDUCATIONAL ITEMS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON IS PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT PAPER CUPS ARE ACTUALLY LINED WITH PLASTIC.
PEOPLE DIDN'T LIKE THE PURPLE CUPS 'CAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANNA DRINK OUT OF PLASTIC, BUT THEY HAD ALREADY BEEN DRINKING OUT OF PLASTIC.
UM, AND THIS IS, WE ALSO, PEOPLE THINK THAT THEY'RE COMPOSTABLE OR RECYCLABLE, BUT THEY ACTUALLY ARE ALL LANDFILL.
UM, EVEN THE COMPOSTABLE PAPER CUPS ARE ALSO LANDFILL.
AND THEN A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT POSS FOSSIL, UH, PLASTICS ARE MADE OUT OF FOSSIL
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FUELS AND THE SORT OF LIFESPAN FROM EXTRACTION TO REFINEMENT TO, YOU KNOW, HEALTH EFFECTS USING THEM TO DISPOSAL.AND, AND WE ALL, YOU ALL KNOW THAT, UH, CHAIN, BUT THAT'S AN EDUCATION OPPORTUNITY FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
WE ALSO HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT THE MARIN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IN 2022.
THEY HAVE A REUSABLE FOOD WEAR ORDINANCE.
AND IT'S JUST INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT THEY'RE WORKING ON.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE FOUND IS IN ALL THE RESEARCH IS THAT IF YOU PUT A 25 CENT CHARGE ON FOR, UM, TO GO, IT'S MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE THAN GIVING PEOPLE A 25 CENT DISCOUNT.
UH, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY DID IN MARIN.
SO JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT.
UM, SO I THINK THAT'S IT FOR OUR BYO CAMPAIGN.
I WANNA MAKE YOU ALL AWARE OF, JUST TO SAVE THE DATE, WE HAVEN'T QUITE DECIDED ON THE NAME OF THIS BIG EVENT, BUT WE ARE WORKING ON A BIG EVENT FOR SUNDAY, MAY 4TH.
EASY TO REMEMBER AT THE CASEY COMMUNITY CENTER, UH, IN COLLABORATION WITH THE CITY OF PETALUMA, PETALUMA CITY SCHOOLS.
THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE HAS JUMPED ON BOARD BECAUSE THEY HAVE THEIR TREE FEST THAT THEY WANTED TO DO AROUND THE SAME TIME.
SO WE'RE GONNA DO IT TOGETHER.
WE'RE GONNA BE DOING, UH, THE SAME SORT OF LOCAL, UH, UH, RESOURCE EXPO THAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING IN THE PAST, BUT WE'RE ADDING IN MORE WORKSHOPS, HOPEFULLY A STUDENT SHOWCASE AND, UH, TREE ACTIVITIES AND A BUNCH MORE STUFF.
SO MARK YOUR CALENDAR AND IF YOU HAVE THOUGHTS ON THAT AND YOU WANT TO PARTICIPATE, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
I'D LOVE TO HAVE, UH, EVERYONE INVOLVED.
AND YOU'RE ALSO INVITED TO OUR BIG, UH, END OF THE YEAR PARTY CELEBRATION.
THE HIN DIG IS ON THURSDAY, DECEMBER 5TH AT THE HALL OF THE ABOVE, THE OLD SEED BANK BUILDING.
SO, WOULD LOVE TO SEE EVERYBODY THERE.
THERE'S A BIG INVITATION TO YOU ALL.
AND NEXT SLIDE, JUST GIVING YOU OUR, UM, GENERAL PRESS UPDATE FOR YOUR INFORMATION.
WE HAD TWO MORE, UH, CLIMATE COLUMNS AND THE ARGUS COURIER ONE IS CALLED THE BACK TO SCHOOL EDITION, BUT IT WAS REALLY GIVING PARENTS HOMEWORK, UH, SO GIVING THEM SOME SIMPLE FIVE SIMPLE THINGS THEY COULD DO TO HELP PARTICIPATE IN CLIMATE ACTION.
AND THEN THE LAST ONE WAS ABOUT HELPING YOU, OUR YOUTH COPE WITH ANXIETY AROUND CLIMATE CHANGE AFTER BEING INSPIRED BY ONE OF THE GUEST SPEAKERS AT THE PETALUMA CITY SCHOOLS, UM, CLIMATE, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION COMMITTEE MEETING.
THEY HAD A GREAT GUEST SPEAKER THERE.
AND SO I ENDED UP INTERVIEWING HER AND, UM, UH, UH, DAN OSTERMAN, WHO, UH, IS THE PERSON FROM PETALUMA CITY SCHOOLS IN CHARGE OF THOSE MEETINGS.
AND FOR ANY PARENTS OUT THERE OR ANY LOVERS OF SMALL CHILDREN, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO READ THAT 'CAUSE IT HAS SOME TIPS ON HOW TO, HOW TO TALK TO YOUR KIDS ABOUT THAT.
AND THEN, UH, DEB FOX ACTUALLY NOTICED SHE WAS READING, UH,
AND PETALUMA IS CALLED OUT IN THERE, UH, FOR OUR COMMUNITY BUILDING AROUND CLIMATE ACTION AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS FOR US ALL TO BE IN THIS AND SUPPORTING EACH OTHER AND, AND THE, THE IMPORTANCE OF, UH, COMING TOGETHER AROUND THESE ACTIONS TO TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER.
IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN KEEPING UP, IF ANY OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC IS INTERESTED IN KEEPING UP WITH THIS, WE SEND OUT A WEEKLY NEWSLETTER.
SO, UM, GO TO OUR WEBSITE AND SIGN UP FOR THAT.
RIGHT? UM, GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT IS NOW CLOSED.
THE NEXT ITEM IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES,
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
WHICH I GUESS WE JUST OPEN IT UP.AND IF ANYBODY HAS, WE'RE GONNA FIRST DO THE ONE FROM THE REGULAR MEETING, SEPTEMBER 12TH, 2024.
AND IF THERE ARE NO COMMENTS ON IT, I THINK IT'S, THAT'S IT.
OH, I ACTUALLY DID HAVE A QUESTION.
MINE WAS ABOUT THE COMBINATION PC AND CC MEETING CAC MEETING THAT'S APPROVED, THAT'S APPROVED, THE SEPTEMBER ONE'S APPROVED, AND THEN NOW WE CAN OPEN IT FOR THE OCTOBER 8TH.
UM, I WAS JUST A LITTLE PUZZLED BY THE MINUTES BECAUSE IT LISTS EVERYBODY WHO COMMENTED, OF COURSE, DOESN'T SAY WHAT THE COMMENTS WERE.
UM, AND THEN THE MOTION, IT SAYS, YOU KNOW, THAT I INTRODUCED THE MOTION FINE.
UM, BUT IT DOESN'T SAY WHAT THE MOTION WAS.
ONE, SOMEBODY NAMED ANNE INTRODUCE THE MOTION, BUT I WAS JUST PUZZLED THAT IT DIDN'T SAY WHAT THE
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MOTION WAS.AND ALSO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THIS LENGTHY DISCUSSION ABOUT ALL THE CHANGES THAT WERE PART OF OUR MOTION, SO THERE'S NO RECORD OF WHAT THOSE CHANGES WERE IN THE MINUTES.
AND I WAS JUST A LITTLE BAFFLED BECAUSE I THOUGHT OKAY, THEN WHERE IS THE RECORD? THERE'S A VIDEO RECORDING OF THAT MEETING, AND THAT'S OFFICIAL.
SO BASICALLY MINUTES ARE LIKE, WHY DO WE EVEN BOTHER ANYMORE
THAT, THAT'S WHY YOU SEE A LOT MORE REALLY CONDENSED MINUTES.
LIKE IT USED TO BE VERBATIM WHEN THERE WASN'T RECORDING DEVICES, AND IT'S GOTTEN A LOT MORE CONDENSED OVER TIME.
I WAS LIKE, IT'S A BIG MYSTERY HERE.
UM, ACTUALLY, REALLY QUICKLY, ONE OTHER THING THAT I'VE NOTICED, UH, THAT I LEARNED TODAY IS WHEN YOU GO TO THE YOUTUBE PART OF THE PAST MEETINGS, UH, ON THE ARCHIVED MEETINGS, THAT IS WHERE IT, THE AGENDA MATCHES THE, UH, THE RECORDING.
UM, SO IT, WE CAN GO BACK AND SOMEONE CAN SEE THAT MOTION TALKED ABOUT AT THAT TIME.
IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY GO TO THE MOTION, IT GOES TO THE AGENDA ITEM, UH, UNDER THE ARCHIVED MEETINGS.
UM, DOES IT FOR PLANNING COMM, IT DOES IT FOR PLANNING COMMISSION FOR, UH, CAC FOR ALL OF THEM.
UM, SO IT, IT IS A WAY TO ACTUALLY SEE THE AGENDA AND MATCH THE RECORDING THAT IS WE SEE UP HERE.
SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE A TABLE OF CONTENTS.
SO DID WE WANNA SUGGEST THAT WE PUT THE MOTION IN THERE? AS LONG AS IT'S DOCUMENTED.
I'M NOT A FAN OF MORE BUREAUCRACY.
SO IF WE'RE COVERED, WE'RE COVERED
UM, ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR CHANGES? GREAT.
THEN, UM, THE MINUTES FROM OCTOBER 8TH, UH, HAVE BEEN APPROVED.
[PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION]
ITEM NUMBER THREE, THE BIG JUICY TOPIC FOR THE EVENING IS BLUEPRINT IMPLEMENTATION, AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEES PLANNING DISCUSSION.UM, SO I'M GONNA GIVE A LITTLE CONTEXT FOR THE, THIS DISCUSSION.
UM, WE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE ALL DISCUSSED THAT WE WANTED TO DO A NUMBER OF THINGS IN ORDER TO, UM, NUMBER ONE, HELP WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE BLUEPRINT, RIGHT? WE SPENT SOME OF, SOME OF US MANY YEARS
AND SO NOW, UM, WE'VE CHARGED, UM, WE'RE CHARGED WITH MAKING SURE THAT IMPLEMENTATION, YOU KNOW, THAT WE CAN SUPPORT IT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
SO, UM, TO THAT END, THE AD HOCS IDEA WAS SORT OF THROWN OUT THERE AND WE ALL AGREED THAT WE WERE GONNA CREATE FOUR AD HOCS.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA SAY, I KNOW THERE'S EDUCATION, TRANSPORTATION, AND THAT'S BUILDING, SORRY, IT'S BUILDINGS WHICH COVERS CLEAN OR ENERGY, WHICH IS BUILDINGS AND CLEAN ENERGY, UH, RESOURCE RESOURCE CONSUMPTION.
AND THEN, UH, TRANSPORTATION AND LAND USE, NATURAL SYSTEMS AND SEQUESTRATION ARE COMBINED.
UH, AND THEN THE FOURTH IS EDUCATION ENGAGEMENT.
UM, AND, AND, UM, IN SORT OF TRYING TO, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW, HOW WE WOULD IMPLEMENT THE, THESE AD HOCS, LIKE SORT OF HOW THEY, HOW THEY WOULD LOOK.
WE WERE THINKING WE COULD, WE COULD USE SOME TIME TO, UM, DURING THIS MEETING TO DO BREAKOUT GROUPS WITH THE AD HOCS.
UM, AND, AND THAT WOULD MEAN, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, EASIER 'CAUSE WE'VE ALREADY CARVED OUT THIS TIME.
AND THEN THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE AD HOCS COULDN'T MEAN OUTSIDE OF THESE MEETINGS, BUT IT WOULD ALSO HAVE MAYBE SOME MOTIVATION FOR SOME MORE ENGAGEMENT FROM THE, FROM THE COMMUNITY TO COME IN AND BE A PART OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
AND SO WE WERE THINKING WE, WE WOULD START DOING THAT AND THEN WE REALIZED THAT THAT CREATES A PROBLEM WITH THE BROWN ACT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ALLOWED, IT BECOMES A SERIAL MEETING.
IF, IF I'M PART OF TWO, TWO OF THOSE AND I'M GOING IN BETWEEN AT THE SAME TIME, THEN THAT BECOMES A SERIAL MEETING.
SO A COUPLE OF SOLUTIONS THAT, UM, WE BRAINSTORMED ONE OF 'EM IS WE COULD JUST PUT THE EDUCATION, UM, AD HOC KIND OF INTO THE OTHER ONES BECAUSE EDUCATION REALLY IS WOVEN IN THROUGH THE ENTIRE BLUEPRINT ANYWAYS.
AND, UM, I WAS THINKING, YOU KNOW, I'M A FORMER TEACHER AND THE EDUCATION ONE WAS THE ONE THAT I WAS, I HAD VOLUNTEERED FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE SORT OF SAY, OKAY, THIS PERSON IS THE PERSON WHOSE JOB IT IS TO LIKE, ALWAYS MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT EDUCATION AND OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT, LIKE IN THIS AD HOC AND SORT OF LIKE IDENTIFIED A PERSON THAT, THAT MAY BE A GOOD SOLUTION AND JUST KIND OF ELIMINATE THE EDUCATION AND HAVE THREE AD HOCS AND LIKE EACH OF THOSE THREE AD HOCS HAS EDUCATION WOVEN IN.
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UM, ANOTHER IDEA WE HAD IS THAT, UH, WE, WE KEEP THE FOUR AND WE JUST MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS NOT ON TWO AD HOCS.UM, I THINK THERE WAS A THIRD IDEA, UM, AND THEN I'M GONNA OPEN IT FOR OTHER IDEAS AS WELL.
DID YOU WANNA GO, GO FOR IT? UNLESS YOU DON'T.
I DO HAVE ONE MORE, BUT GO AHEAD.
SO, UM, I THINK I LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING AN EDUCATION SORT OF, UH, CHAMPION ON EACH ONE, BUT I ALSO THINK THAT WE SHOULD KEEP THE EDUCATION AD HOC TO PULL THOSE IDEAS BACK TOGETHER SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, THREE DIFFERENT GROUPS SPAWNING EDUCATION IDEAS, UM, THEY SHOULD BE WOVEN TOGETHER.
SO IT SEEMS LIKE THE ONLY BROWN ACT ISSUE IS WHEN WE'RE IN THIS MEETING.
SO, SO LONG AS WE DON'T DUPLICATE IN THIS MEETING.
YOU KNOW, MAYBE THIS IS THE FORUM WHERE THE EDUCATION CHAMPIONS GO WITH THE OTHER THREE.
AD HOCS AND THEN FOR THE BRAIDING TOGETHER, THEY WOULD MEET SEPARATELY.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH, THAT MAKES SENSE.
SO IF, IF I CAN JUST JUMP IN REALLY QUICK FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE, BECAUSE WE, WE HAD A, A CHAT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND TO KIND OF BRING EVERYBODY INTO THAT CONVERSATION.
SO, UH, THE, THE, THE ISSUE WITH AD HOCS IS, WELL THE, THE REQUIREMENTS OF THEM IS THEY NEED TO BE LESS THAN A QUORUM OF THE WHOLE MEMBERSHIP.
OTHERWISE IT'S A BROWN, IT'S A PUBLIC MEETING WITHOUT HAVING IT, UM, AGENDIZED AND HAVING THE PUBLIC BEING ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THOSE DISCUSSIONS, UM, BROADLY.
SO IT CAN'T, CAN'T BE A QUORUM.
UM, AND EVEN IF IT'S LESS THAN A QUORUM, IF YOU HAVE MEMBERS BOUNCING BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THEM, THEN YOU CAN HAVE A, THROUGH THAT MEMBER AS BEING LIKE A A, UH, THERE'S LIKE A HUB AND SPOKE THING.
SO IF THEY KNOW THINGS THAT EACH AD HOC KNOWS, ESSENTIALLY IT'S MAKING A, A MEETING OUT OF, BY, BY PROXY, BY HAVING THAT ONE PERSON THAT KNOWS ALL THAT INFORMATION, THAT INDIVIDUAL, UM, THE REST OF THE MEMBERS WOULDN'T NECESSARILY.
SO, SO THERE'S WAYS WE CAN DO, LIKE THE, THE METHODS THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED WOULD BE FINE.
UM, A THOUGHT ON THE EDUCATION, UM, SUBCOMMITTEE IS IF THEY MET LIKE RIGHT AFTER THE MEETING, EITHER LIKE THE SAME NIGHT OR LIKE THE NEXT DAY, AND THEY'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT THE THINGS BECAUSE WHAT WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT IS THE BREAKOUT GROUPS.
AND THEN YOU COME BACK AND REPORT, REPORT OUT FROM THAT.
IF YOU'RE JUST GOING BASED ON THE, THE THINGS THAT WERE TALKED ABOUT DURING THAT MEETING, THEN ALL THE INFORMATION HAS BEEN MADE TO THE PUBLIC.
THE PUBLIC HAS HAD A CHANCE TO, TO WEIGH IN AND, AND PARTICIPATE IN THAT DISCUSSION.
SO EVEN IF THERE'S SOME OVERLAPPING MEMBERSHIP THERE THAT THE EDUCATION SUBCOMMITTEE, IT'D JUST BE TALKING ABOUT THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN PUBLIC, WHICH EVERYBODY KNOWS.
SO THERE, THERE'S NOT REALLY AN ISSUE WITH THAT REGARDLESS.
UM, IT'S JUST GONNA TAKE DISCIPLINE BY THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE NOT, IF YOU, IF YOU DO HAVE THAT SCENARIO WHERE CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION MEMBERS ARE ON MULTIPLE AD HOCS, THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE COMPARTMENTALIZING THAT EVEN IF YOU MAY KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT WHAT THE OTHER AD HOC HAS DONE, YOU'RE NOT HAVING THAT DISCUSSION WITH THE OTHER AD HOC.
SO IT'S JUST, IT'S GONNA RE REQUIRE THAT DISCIPLINE FROM THE MEMBERSHIP TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE STAYING, UM, IN GOOD TERRITORY WITH THE BROWN ACT.
AND IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS, WE, YOU KNOW, HAPPY TO TRY AND TAKE A, UH, UH, UM, GIVE YOU SOME ADVICE OR, OR HAVE THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE GET BACK TO US ON THAT.
COULD, CAN I MAKE ONE MORE SUGGESTION? MAYBE WE JUST, WE AS A COMMISSION DISCUSS EDUCATION.
SO EACH AD HOC, YOU KNOW, IT, IT BECOMES GENDERIZED IN THIS MEETING.
EACH AD HOC SAYS, OKAY, THESE ARE OUR IDEAS FOR EDUCATION.
AND THEN WE REALLY ASK, UM, STAFF TO KIND OF TAKE THAT TO THE NEXT LEVEL AND BRING IT BACK TO US.
'CAUSE I THINK THAT'S DEFINITELY PART OF STAFF'S EXPERTISE IS, IS HOW TO SCHEDULE AND PRIORITIZE AND ADVERTISE EDUCATIONAL STUFF.
SO MAYBE, UM, MAYBE THAT WOULD BE A WAY TO, TO DO IT IS JUST TO DO IT HERE.
SO, SO ESSENTIALLY AFTER WE DID THE BREAKOUTS, WE'D COME BACK AND SORT OF TALK ABOUT HOW THE EDUCATION PIECES BRAID TOGETHER.
'CAUSE THEN WE CAN PRIORITIZE, YOU KNOW.
AND REALLY GET ALL THAT INPUT.
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UM, I DO WANNA JUST BRING IT BACK 'CAUSE YOU JUST SPOKE PATRICK, BUT I WAS SUPPOSED TO LET YOU SORT OF INTRODUCE THE WHOLE TOPIC.SO
UM, THE BEST WAY OF DOING IT IS JUST BEING PHYSICALLY SEPARATE.
SO ONE AD HOC COULD MEET IN HERE, ANOTHER COULD BE OUT IN THE, UM, THE LOBBY AND THEN ANOTHER IN LIKE THE CONFERENCE ROOM.
SO THEY'RE PHYSICALLY SEPARATE AND THEY'RE NOT HAVING LIKE A CONVERSATION WHERE THE PUBLIC WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO, EVEN THOUGH OUR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC COULD, COULD BOUNCE BEFORE THEM IF, IF THEY WANTED TO.
UM, BUT THAT OUR CITY ATTORNEY FEELS LIKE HAVING THAT PHYSICAL SEPARATION KIND OF INSULATES US FROM SOME SORT OF CHALLENGE.
AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT CHALLENGE WOULD BE BECAUSE THIS IS ALL ADVISORY YOU'RE GONNA REPORT BACK AT, AT THE END OF THE DISCUSSION.
SO THERE'S REALLY NOT MUCH OF A, IF THERE WAS A VIOLATION, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT CURE WOULD BE BECAUSE IT'S ALL BEING DISCUSSED MINUTES LATER.
BUT BE THAT AS IT MAY, IT'S BETTER TO, TO BE BY THE RULES BECAUSE THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO DEFEND YOURSELF FROM, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT WANT, MAY NOT WANT THE DISCUSSION TO HAPPEN AT ALL.
SO THAT'S HOW WE COULD HANDLE THAT TODAY.
AND THAT'S, IT'S BEEN PUT ON THE AGENDA TO DO THAT IF, IF THE MEMBERSHIP WISHES OR IF YOU WANT TO JUST HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AT THE DAAS ABOUT LOGISTICS WHERE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU WANNA MEET ANY BRAINSTORMING OF, YOU KNOW, THE ACTION ITEMS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THE, UM, ATTACHMENT AND, UM, ANY OTHER TIMELINE KIND OF SITUATIONS.
SO THAT'S THE ONLY OTHER PART THAT I'D ADD TO, TO THE BACKGROUND ON THIS.
UM, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ABOUT THAT? UH, SO ARE WE DISSOLVING THE EDUCATION ONE AND INCORPORATING IT INTO THE AGENDA? I DON'T THINK WE'RE, WE'VE MADE A DECISION ON THAT YET.
I JUST, I HAD TO GO BACKWARDS BECAUSE I WAS SUPPOSED TO, I AM IN FAVOR OF THAT.
I GUESS WHAT SORT OF YOU HAD DESCRIBED.
I AM INCLINED TO AGREE WITH THAT.
UM, AND THEN I AM ALSO INCLINED TO ONLY BE ON ONE, UH, SUBCOMMITTEE.
SO, UM, THE, THE TRANSPORTATION ONE I GUESS.
SO I CAN REMOVE MYSELF FROM THE OTHER ONE.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER, LET'S, LET'S START WITH THIS.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SOUNDS LIKE NO.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS THEN FROM THE COMMISSION? ARE WE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE SUBJECT OF THE EDUCATION PART OR ANYTHING? ANY TOPICS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW? OH, ON THIS? OKAY.
UM, FIRST OFF, JUST MAYBE A, A QUESTION, UM, AS A, 'CAUSE I'M A LIAISON FOR THE COUNCIL, UM, AND DO I GET TO, UM, DO I GET TO, UH, 'CAUSE I'M A LIAISON FOR, FOR THE COUNCIL, UM, TO SUPPORT EACH OF THESE AD HOCS? I CAN BE ON ONE FOR SURE, BUT, UM, CAN I, IF THERE, THERE'S A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT HOW TO COORDINATE WITH, WITH THE COUNCIL OR IF THERE IS SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
CAN I ENTER IN AT LEAST PARTICIPATE IN A DISCUSSION IF, IF, IF I'M REQUESTED? I THINK THAT WOULD BE BEST DONE IN THE, THE WHOLE SESSION WITH EVERYBODY.
UM, JUST SO, BECAUSE THAT'S THAT KIND OF SITUATION WHERE YOU HAVE LIKE PEOPLE BOUNCING AND, AND THAT MIGHT BE A SERIAL MEETING BY, BY A MEMBER.
SO I THINK IT'D BE BEST TO JUST DO THAT IN THE PUBLIC AND THEN THERE'S NO ISSUES OF WHETHER THAT IS PROPER OR NOT.
THEN THE, UM, COMMENT MIGHT BE ON THE, JUST THE PROCESS WITH THE AD HOCS.
I ASSUME WE'RE GONNA BE DOING THIS SEVERAL TIMES, UH, CONSISTENTLY OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS, NOT JUST TONIGHT.
UH, SO, UH, MIGHT TAKE A WHOLE YEAR ACTUALLY TO, FOR THIS IMPLEMENTATION PROCESS NOW, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS, UH, GET SOME AGREEMENTS UPFRONT, SO BEFORE WE BREAK UP INTO GROUPS AS TO, UM, WHAT IT IS WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY, UH, COME BACK WITH.
AND SO ONE OF THE IDEAS THAT I HAD WAS ONE, UH, SOMETIMES PRIORITIZATION AND, UM, I LIKE TO CATEGORIZE, UM, OR EVEN RANK EACH EACH OF THE TOPICS THAT WE HAVE, UH, TO, TO GO OVER.
AND, UM, ONE, ONE THING I WOULD, ONE GOAL WOULD BE, OKAY, LET'S FIND THE, THE LOW HANGING FRUIT, LOW COST, FAIRLY EFFECTIVE, EASY TO DO STAFF IS ALREADY IN THAT DIRECTION.
SO JUST LIKE, OKAY, THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE GONNA GET HAPPEN.
UH, THEY'RE ALREADY IN, IN THE WORKS.
ANOTHER ONE WOULD BE, OKAY, THESE ARE HIGH COST ITEMS, DIFFICULT TO DO AND REALLY DOESN'T SAVE THAT MUCH CARBON OR, OR DOCENT AND SAY, OKAY, LET'S, LET'S LOWER THAT PRIORITY.
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SPECTRUMS EASE EASY AND QUICK.OKAY, WE'LL WORK ON THAT WHEN THE OPPORTUNITY RISES UP.
AND THEN IN THE MIDDLE GROUND, UM, I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME PRIORITIZATION ON, UM, HOW MUCH EFFORT IT'S GONNA TAKE.
LOW, MEDIUM, HIGH, WHAT TYPE OF COST, LOW, MEDIUM, HIGH, AND UH, AND THE END RESULT, IS IT REALLY GOING TO, HOW MUCH IMPACT IS IT GONNA BE LOW, MEDIUM, HIGH? SO THEN WE CAN SORT OF GET A RANKING.
'CAUSE THERE'S OF, OF THE 33, UM, CORNERSTONES HERE AND EACH ONE HAS SUB CORNERSTONE THINGS, ACTIONS WITH IT, WE'RE GONNA NEED TO PRIORITIZE.
AND SO I'D LIKE US TO MAYBE COME UP WITH A, SOME SORT OF AGREEMENT ON SOME SORT OF RANKING SYSTEM OR SOMETHING WE WANT TO BRING BACK SO THAT WE'RE ALL SAYING THE SAME THING IN THE SAME WAY AS TO WHAT WE WANT.
UM, SO I'M JUST SAYING I'D LIKE TO SEE A PROCESS SET UP.
UM, AND THAT'S JUST WHAT I DISCUSSED.
GO BACK AND TELL US WHAT YOU DISCUSSED, BUT ACTUALLY A A LITTLE MORE REFINED, A LITTLE MORE FORMAL PROCESS THERE FOR WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO.
UM, SO DO WE HAVE A CONSENSUS ABOUT HOW WE'RE GONNA MANAGE THE, THE CONCERN ABOUT THE SERIAL MEETING? LIKE ARE, IT KIND OF SOUNDS LIKE WE DO, BUT I WANT, I JUST WANNA GET A, AN I.
SO SO WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING, DO YOU WANT GO AHEAD.
I CAN, I CAN MAKE A MOTION IF YOU LIKE.
WE ADOPT AND SUGGESTION THAT, UM, EDUCATION IS A TOPIC THAT WE ADDRESS AS A WHOLE AND THAT EACH OF THE THREE AD HOCS HAS, UH, AN EDUCATION CHAMPION WITHIN IT, UM, TO BE DETERMINED WITHIN THOSE AD HOCS.
SO THAT WOULD BE ELIMINATING THE EDUCATION OR KIND OF YES.
CHAIR, ACTUALLY, UM, MAYBE BEFORE WE GET INTO MOTIONS, WE SHOULD JUST SEE IF THERE'S ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC COMMENT WANTS TO COMMENT, WEIGH IN, PUBLIC COMMENT.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
AND ALL IN FAVOR, DO WE DO A ROLL CALL HERE OR WHAT? HOW DO WE DO IT? WE USUALLY DO ROLL CALL.
WOULD YOU PLEASE DO ROLL CALL? UM, ASHLEY? UH, YES.
UM, SO THEN THE NEXT STEP IS, YOU KNOW, WE WERE THINKING WE WOULD GO AHEAD AND START AND DO, UM, DO A LITTLE BIT OF AD HOC WORK TODAY, UM, WHILE WE'RE ALL HERE.
UM, AND SO THEN TO COUNCIL MEMBER SRI'S, UM, POINT, WE DO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE PRIORITIES STRAIGHT ABOUT WHAT, WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.
WE DON'T WANNA JUST GO OUT THERE AND LIKE NOT HAVE THE DIRECTION.
SO, UM, WE HAVE, UM, THE SORT OF LOW, MEDIUM, HIGH COST IMPACT AND EFFORT, UM, STRUCTURE THAT WE COULD COME BACK WITH.
UM, I, I, I'M SORT OF PUTTING THIS OUT TO YOU GUYS BECAUSE THESE ARE, UM, ALL OF OUR AD HOCS AND UM, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT TRYING TO LIKE TELL EVERYBODY HOW TO DO IT.
'CAUSE I THINK EACH ONE COULD EVEN BE DIFFERENT.
BUT I DO THINK WE SHOULD COME BACK WITH, UM, SOME KIND OF PRIORITIES, GOALS, UM, UM, LIKE A TIMEFRAME AND SORT OF A, A, UM, WHICH IS KIND OF LIKE THAT LOW, MEDIUM, HIGH THING IF THAT'S THE STRUCTURE, THE WAY YOU WANNA STRUCTURE IT.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE SHOULD COME BACK WITH? UH, JUST A THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S ONE ITEM THAT I KNOW, LIKE BEFORE WHEN WE SET THESE GOALS, THERE WASN'T A STATE GOVERNMENT PROGRAM TO ADDRESS IT AND HOW THERE IS, SO WE MIGHT JUST WANT LIKE SOME NOTES THAT JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS WILL BE ADDRESSED BY STATE GOVERNMENT PROGRAM OR SOME, JUST SOME IF NOTES IF NEEDED.
SO I, I'M JUST WONDERING, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE COST AND EFFORT PARAMETERS MIGHT BE BEST ADDRESSED BY STAFF.
UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT I PERSONALLY HAVE THE RESOURCES TO DETERMINE THAT.
UM, I THINK MAYBE MORE THE, THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT I THINK THAT SPEAKING FOR MYSELF AND I MIGHT BE ABLE TO WEIGH IN ON OUR IMPACT AND, UM, MAYBE SORT OF JUST A QUALITATIVE SENSE OF IS THIS GONNA TAKE A LOT OF LEAD TIME OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT'S MORE SHORT TERM EFFORT? SO NOT MAGNITUDE OF EFFORT, BUT MORE SORT OF LIKE, DO WE NEED TO START NOW IN ORDER TO HAVE SOMETHING HAPPEN FIVE YEARS FROM NOW?
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OR, UM, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE IN THE NEXT THREE TO SIX MONTHS? YEAH.SO BASICALLY AS AD HOCS WE'RE, WE'RE, AND THE PEOPLE WHO, SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THE MOST FAMILIAR WITH THIS DOCUMENT, UM, WE, WE CAN SORT BE A LITTLE BIT OF A MASTERMIND, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LIKE, KIND OF LOOKING AT THE BIG PICTURE, OKAY, HOW ARE WE ACTUALLY GONNA LIKE, HELP MAKE THIS HAPPEN? AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S SORT OF THE ANALYSIS THAT WE'RE WANTING TO BE DOING.
AND OBVIOUSLY NOBODY'S EXPECTING MIND-BLOWING ESSAYS COMING OUT OF THIS, BUT WE DO HAVE A LOT BETTER SENSE OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THAN, THAN MOST OF THE PUBLIC.
SO I WAS GONNA JUST ADD, WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE, THIS VERY LOVELY SPREADSHEET THAT STAFF PROVIDED, UM, WAS JUST THAT THERE'S SOME CORNERSTONE ACTIONS THAT SEEM KIND OF CLEARLY IN THE PURVIEW OF OTHER COMMISSIONS.
AND I THINK IT'D BE HELPFUL TO IDENTIFY THOSE AND SAY, OKAY, THIS IS CLEARLY MORE PLANNING THAN CLIMATE, YOU KNOW, OR THIS IS A COLLABORATIVE, YOU KNOW, AND SO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LIKE HOMEWORK ASSIGNMENTS, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS SOME THINGS COULD LAND DIRECTLY IN PARKS AND, YOU KNOW, AND SOME THINGS DIRECTLY IN TRANSIT, YOU KNOW.
AND SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE, I THINK, HELPFUL IF, IF EACH AD HOC REALLY WENT THROUGH IT AND SAID, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA TACKLE THESE ONES AND RIGHT.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE FOR FROM STAFF PERSPECTIVE, LIKE THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO LEAD ON EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE THINGS.
SO LIKE WE NEED TO LEAD ON THE ONES THAT BEST SUIT OUR COMMISSION.
GOING I TOTALLY AGREE BECAUSE YEAH, LIKE ACT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR INSTANCE, I'M NOT CUR MY QUESTION.
I GUESS MORE IS LIKE, HOW, HOW THEN DO THOSE CORNERSTONE ACTIONS GET TRANSFERRED OVER TO THOSE OTHER COMMITTEES? YOU KNOW, IF IT, IF IT'S GONNA BE UNDER THEIR PURVIEW, HOW, WHAT'S THE MECHANISM FOR THEM TO TAKE IT ON? IS IT WORKING WITH THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE? I DUNNO.
YEAH, SO, UM, WE ARE, I MEAN, LEADERSHIP IN, IN PETALUMA IS AWARE THAT THE BLUEPRINT WAS PASSED AND, AND WE'VE, YOU KNOW, MADE ANNOUNCEMENTS AND, AND I THINK THE PIECE, AND IT'S, IT'S PART OF THE, THE CORNERSTONE ACTIONS IS MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE HAVING CHAMPIONS IN ALL THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.
WE'RE DEVELOPING THOSE TEAMS. IT JUST GOT PASSED
UM, SO THOSE CONVERSATIONS, AND I, AND I THINK A, A HUGE PIECE OF THAT IS ALL THE STAFF LIAISONS WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT, UM, COMMITTEES, COMMISSIONS AND BOARDS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS, THIS IS COUNCIL POLICY, THIS IS COUNCIL PRIORITY, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ALL GONNA BE WORKING ON TOGETHER ON THAT.
UM, AND, AND SO THAT'S GONNA BE A BIG DISCUSSION LIKE IN, IN THE NEXT
SO IN TERMS OF LIKE HOW IT'S LIKE PASSED OFF, I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW THAT IT'S, IT'S THAT, I THINK IT'S JUST WE MAKE SURE THAT THE RESPONSIBILITY IS KNOWN AND THEN, UM, WE, WE TRY TO, UM, STIMULATE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AT THE RIGHT PLACES.
AND, AND, AND I THINK THAT STARTS WITH THE STAFF LIAISONS AND MAKING SURE THAT, THAT WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE IN THAT THEY'RE, UM, THEY'RE HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS REGULARLY, WHETHER IT'S STAFF COMMENTS OR AGENDIZED ITEMS ON THAT, UM, THAT THEY'RE, UM, THEY'RE HAVING THAT, THAT DISCUSSION.
SO I THINK THAT'S KIND OF THE FIRST STEP.
OH, SORRY JOHN, LET ME, SORRY, EXCUSE ME.
COUNCIL MEMBERSHIPS, UH, ONE FINAL QUESTION THEN ON THAT NOTE.
SO LET'S SAY, YOU KNOW, ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION, THEY, THEY DO THE THING, RIGHT? SO, BUT THEN YOU COME BACK TO US AND BE LIKE, BOOM, CHECK, WE GOT THAT.
SO I THINK A, AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF THIS IS THE MONITORING AND REPORTING AND, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT DEB AND I HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT A LOT.
AND, UM, WE DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SOMETHING THAT'S AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC SO THAT EVERYBODY CAN BE MADE AWARE OF IT.
AND THEN, AND THEN MAYBE IT IS DURING STAFF COMMENTS OR, OR SOMETHING LIKE, OR AN APPROPRIATE TIME WHERE WE'RE LIKE, HEY, WE CHECK THAT BOX.
LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE CRUSHING IT.
SO, UM, THAT'S THE TECHNICAL TERM, RIGHT? YEAH.
THAT'S THE OFFICIAL THANK YOU.
APPRECIATE PROFESSIONAL TERM FOR CRUSHING IT.
UM, ONE OTHER IDEA FOR THE AD HOCS TO THINK ABOUT, UM, IS WE DO HAVE A LOT OF EXPERTISE ON THIS COMMISSION AND, UH, SOMETIMES WE, WE ACTUALLY KNOW A FAIR AMOUNT OR EVEN MORE THAN SOME, EVEN THE STAFF 'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT, UH, THERE'S ONLY ONE STAFF PERSON THAT'S CLIMATE, BUT THERE'S LOTS OF US HERE THAT HAVE BEEN WORKING IN THE AREA ACTUALLY FOR LONG TIME.
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SO, UH, ONE OF THE, UM, THINGS WE MAY WANT TO COME BACK WITH BESIDES JUST PRIORITIZING IS THE, UM, BRAINSTORMING HOW, HOW TO IMPLEMENT IDEAS OF WHAT TO DO, HOW TO DO IT, UH, ANY NEW APPROACHES.SO WHEN WE HAVE THIS TOPIC, SO, SO IT'S, IT IS THERE AND IT'S LIKE, YEAH, STAFF HAS TO DO IT, BUT IF WE HAVE SOME CONCEPTS TO CONTRIBUTE, THEN UH, WE DEFINITELY NEED TO BE BE STEPPING UP AND SAY, GIVING OUR ADVICE.
ANY ELSE? SO I JUST WANTED TO ASK, ARE WE STILL TALKING ABOUT COST? AND IF SO, HOW ARE WE CATEGORIES CATEGORIZING LOW, HIGH, AND MEDIUM, LIKE RELATIVE TO EACH OTHER? OR IS THERE LIKE A BOUNDARIES SET ON LIKE, I DUNNO, ZERO TO THOUSAND OR SOMETHING? OKAY, SO FOR FOR COSTS, UM, PART OF IT'S GONNA BE RELATIVE TO THE OTHER.
EVERY ONE OF THESE HAS OKAY, AN EFFORT.
THE EFFORT COULD BE, UM, LABOR.
'CAUSE THAT'S HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH EFFORT IS IT GOING TO TAKE? IS IT A DIFFICULT TASK? IS IT GONNA BE A LONG-TERM TASK? IS IT GONNA BE REALLY INVOLVED? DOES IT REQUIRE LAWYERS TO COME IN WITH ORDINANCES AND THINGS OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT OH, STAFF COULD, OKAY, THAT WE COULD IMPLEMENT THAT TOMORROW IF, IF WE, IF WE REALLY MADE THAT DECISION.
OR IT'S GONNA BE AN EVERYDAY, IT'S GONNA BE PART OF OUR DAILY PRACTICE ANYWAY.
SO, UM, THINKING ABOUT THE, UH, THINK OF INSTEAD OF COST, YOU MAY THINK OF EFFORT, UH, INSTEAD THERE THERE'S FINANCIAL COSTS.
'CAUSE UM, UH, UNLESS IT'S POSSIBLY THERE IS A FEW IN THERE THAT WOULD HAVE HIGH COSTS, SUCH AS HOW DO WE SUBSIDIZE, UM, GETTING FOLKS IN, UM, GETTING, UM, UH, ELECTRIFICATION, UH, TO THE FOLKS THAT NEED IT AND CAN'T AFFORD IT.
SO THERE MIGHT BE SOME HIGH COSTS THERE OR, OR SOME IDEAS ON A PROGRAM TO HOW TO DEVELOP THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT THAN SAYING, OH, WE'RE JUST GOING TO, UH, UH, UH, PUT SOME BICYCLES IN, INTO THE STAFF AREA AND HAVE THEM RIDE AROUND.
UH, THAT'S A VERY SIMPLE, EASIER THING VERSUS, UH, HOW INVOLVED IS IT GOING TO BE? SO YOU CAN THINK OF IT JUST AS EFFORT, UH, INSTEAD OF COST.
UH, ONE, UH, TOPIC OR REQUEST I'D LIKE TO MAKE TO THE AD HOCS IS WITHIN EACH OF THEM THERE ARE, UH, CORNERSTONES, WHICH IS A POLICY CREATION TOPIC.
AND I THINK THOSE SHOULD BE IDENTIFIED.
AND, AND, UH, EACH AD HOC SHOULD AT LEAST START WITH ONE POLICY TO WORK ON EXPLICITLY.
UM, SO THAT THEN WE CAN COME BACK AND REGROUP AND, YOU KNOW, WE ARE GONNA BE WORKING, THIS AD HOC IS GONNA BE WORKING ON THIS POLICY CREATION SPECIFICALLY, AND THEN WE CAN EVEN ORGANIZE OUR WHOLE COMMITTEE MEETING CALENDAR AROUND THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK THE, THE POLICY WORK IS, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THIS COMMITTEE IS WELL POISED TO DO, BUT HASN'T QUITE DONE.
UH, AND SO WE SHOULD REALLY, UH, THINK ABOUT HOW WE DIG ON, DIG IN ON THAT TOPIC.
UM, AND THEN THE LAST THING I'M GONNA JUST SUMMARIZE WHAT, UM, WHAT WE'RE, WHEN WE GO OUT TO WORK TOGETHER IN OUR AD HOCS AND COME BACK, WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE REPORTING OUT ON.
SO ONE OF THEM IS WHAT ARE THE PRIORITIES AND WHAT ARE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO REPORT OUT ON WHAT ARE NOT THE PRIORITIES, BUT THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE WORK IN FINDING WHAT THE PRIORITIES ARE.
UM, UM, WHAT DO WE NEED TO CHAMPION AS AS AN AD HOC? UM, AND THAT COULD BE THE POL A POLICY THAT YOU'RE SINGLING OUT.
UM, THE OTHER THING I DO WANNA MENTION, OH, AND QUESTIONS FOR STAFF PROBABLY WOULD BE GOOD.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO GET 'EM ALL ANSWERED TONIGHT, BUT AT LEAST WE CAN PUT THE QUESTIONS OUT THERE SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY KNOW ABOUT 'EM.
AND THEN, UM, WE ALSO HAD TALKED ABOUT IN ORDER TO GET MORE ENGAGEMENT AND HOPEFULLY PARTICIPATION IN THESE ROOMS, UM, BRINGING SPEAKERS IN TO TALK ABOUT DIFFERENT TOPICS, UM, LIKE A, UM, SONOMA COUNTY PERSON TO TALK ABOUT THEIR ACTION PLAN OR, UM, YOU KNOW, A A LOCAL, UM, REGENERATIVE, REGENERATIVE AGRICULTURE PERSON TO TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WASTE AND FOOD AND SORT OF EDUCATING OURSELVES, BUT ALSO MAKING THOSE AVAILABLE TO THE COMMUNITY THROUGH THE WEBSITE, UM, SO THAT THEY CAN EDUCATE THEMSELVES, YOU KNOW, AS PART OF THIS WHOLE EDUCATION PIECE.
UM, SO I WOULD SAY JUST GENERALLY WHILE YOU'RE IN YOUR MEETING, UM, BUT ALSO WHEN YOU'RE GOING ABOUT JUST TALKING TO PEOPLE, UM, KEEPING TRACK OF THOSE PEOPLE AND YOU'RE WELCOME TO JUST SHOOT ME AN EMAIL, UM, LIKE THAT WOULD MAKE GOOD SPEAKERS TO COME AND TALK ABOUT SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE BLUEPRINT AND, AND, UM, THAT'S GOING ON IN OUR COMMUNITY.
'CAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH GOOD STUFF GOING ON AND WE DON'T NEED TO BE, YOU KNOW, REINVENTING THE WHEEL WHEN IF SOMEBODY ELSE IS DOING SOMETHING, WE CAN JUST HIGHLIGHT THEM.
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ANOTHER THING.SO PRIORITIES, QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, HOW ARE WE GONNA DO IT? UM, WHAT DO WE NEED TO CHAMPION? AND THEN IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS FOR PEOPLE TO COME IN AND SPEAK ABOUT TOPICS THAT ARE RELEVANT, UM, PLEASE BRING THOSE BACK ALSO.
IF I CAN ADD ONE OTHER ITEM, UH, AS A DIFFERENT, AN A WAY TO THINK ABOUT, UM, THESE ELEMENTS IS WHAT ARE THE POLICIES, WHAT ARE THE PROGRAMS OR WHAT ARE THE PEOPLE THAT CAN SUPPORT YOUR AD HOC OR TOPICS? IS THAT CLEAR TO EVERYBODY WHAT WE'RE COMING BACK WITH? ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT IT? OKAY.
AND THEN I THINK YOU SAID WE TAKE A BREAK OR SOMETHING.
WE HAVE TO TAKE A YEAH, WE CAN, WE CAN RECESS.
UM, WE SHOULD PROBABLY KIND OF PUT A TIME LIMIT ON THAT.
SO THAT, UM, YEAH, WE CAN WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? 20 MINUTES, LET KNOW ROUGHLY WHAT TIME THAT ENOUGH TIME TO DIVE IN.
WHERE DO WE GO? YEAH, I WAS JUST GONNA, THERE A COUPLE PEOPLE THAT NEED TO DECIDE WHAT AD HO THEY'RE GOING TO MM-HMM.
WOULD YOU PLEASE READ OUT WHO'S, WHO'S DOING WHAT? YEAH, SO FOR RESOURCES CONSUMPTION, IT'S UH, AMY, DAN, AND PAV FOR, UH, THE BUILDINGS ENERGY IS ANN EDM ADMINISTERED, UH, DAVID AND JOHN.
AND THEN TRANSPORTATION, LAND USE AND NATURAL SYSTEMS IS ANN BAKER, BEN, AND HANNAH.
AND, AND THEN THE LAST PIECE IS ABOUT THE ROOMS. YES.
UH, I'M PRETTY SURE THAT THE CITY MANAGERS, UH, CONFERENCE ROOM SHOULD BE EMPTY BY NOW, BUT THAT'S ONE, ONE CAN MEET IN HERE.
UH, AND THEN THE, THE THIRD COULD MEET IN THE HALLWAY, THIS IN THE MAIN THING.
AND WE'LL JUST PULL CHAIRS FOR NOW.
AND THEN AS MORE PEOPLE COME, WE'LL BE ABLE TO SET UP TABLES, UM, SO THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY HAVE PEOPLE COME SIT AT THE TABLES WITH YOU.
UM, BUT THAT WAS THE THINKING OF HOW WE DO IT.
SO WE'LL DO RESOURCES IN THE CONFERENCE ROOM.
WHAT'S THE, UH, SHOULD WE DO BUILDINGS IN THE BUILDINGS? IN THE HALLWAY? IN THE HALLWAY.
WE'LL BE MEET BACK HERE AT, SHOULD WE DO HALF AN HOUR AND THEN A FIVE MINUTE BATHROOM BREAK AND THEN COME BACK IN HERE? SO SEVEN 50, IS THAT OKAY? WHY DON'T WE JUST FIGURE OUT OUR BATHROOM BREAK IN THE HALF HOUR.
RECESS IS OVER
SO LET'S HAVE, UH, EACH OF OUR AD HOCS REPORT OUT ON POLICY PROGRAMS. PEOPLE, HOW ARE WE GONNA DO THIS? WHAT DO WE NEED TO CHAMPION? WHO SHOULD COME SPEAK? WHO WOULD LIKE TO GO FIRST? NO, MAN.
OH,
UM, WELL IT SAID BEFORE THE MEETING, I HAD ACTUALLY GONE THROUGH THE WORKSHEET AND SORT OF PAIRED DOWN THE 418 LINE ITEMS TO 46 THAT, UM, SEEMED REALISTICALLY APPLICABLE TO OUR BUILDINGS AND ENERGY AD HOC.
SO WHAT WE DID IS WE, WE LOOKED THROUGH THOSE AND FOR TONIGHT WE FOCUSED ON THOSE THAT WERE CORNERSTONES AND IN 2025, UM, AND JUST SORT OF TALKED THROUGH EACH OF THOSE THAT IT ENDED UP BEING A RELATIVELY SMALL NUMBER, MAYBE 10 OR SO.
UM, AND TO JUST SORT OF TALK ABOUT LIKE, WELL, WHAT, WHAT TASKS COULD WE APPROPRIATELY UNDERTAKE FOR EACH OF THOSE AND WHAT LEVEL OF EFFORT MIGHT BE ATTACHED TO THOSE TASKS? SO WE JUST GAVE OURSELVES A LITTLE BIT OF HOMEWORK.
SO, AND THEN ALSO ESTABLISHED, UM, A MEETING SCHEDULE FOR, UM, BETWEEN CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION MEETINGS.
THAT SOUNDS LIKE EXCELLENT PROGRESS.
AND WHO'S NEXT? WHO'S REPORTING FROM THE I'LL DO OURS.
SO WE WERE, UH, RESOURCE CONSUMPTION AND WE LOOKED AT, UH, THREE CORNERSTONES, WHICH ARE FOOD WASTE AND SPECIAL EVENTS, FOOD RECOVERY PROGRAM MODEL, DISPOSABLE, UH, FOOD WEAR ORDINANCE.
AND WE QUICKLY REALIZED THAT THERE
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ARE A LOT OF OTHER CITIES AND COUNTIES THAT HAVE EITHER, YOU KNOW, PASSED ORDINANCES AND THE, THE CITY ITSELF HAS ALREADY DONE A LOT OF WORK IN SOME OF THESE AREAS.SO WHAT WE DECIDED TO DO WAS TO, UH, GO AHEAD AND DO SOME RESEARCH ON, ON THESE OTHER CITIES AND COUNTIES AND THEN SEE WHAT WE CAN ADOPT THEN FOR OUR OWN AND THEN GET STARTED ON, ON MOVING FORWARD WITH THESE.
AND WE ARE PLANNING ON A MEETING BETWEEN OUR NEXT MEETING, SO WE'LL BE WORKING ON IT IN BETWEEN.
SO THE FIR UH, ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS WE DID WAS, UM, SORT OF IDENTIFY WHICH, UH, CORNERSTONES AND SOME ITEMS ARE, UH, WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF OTHER COMMITTEES, LIKE THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE TRANSIT COMMISSION, AND THEN THE PAC COMMISSION.
SO SORT OF NARROWED THE LIST DOWN.
UH, SO WITHIN THE TRANSIT TOPIC, THERE'S A COUPLE POLICIES IN NEAR TERM ITEMS, UH, RELATED TO, UH, TDM.
BASICALLY THERE'S A COUPLE 2025 TDM RELATED TOPICS.
AND SO, UH, WE'RE GONNA, UH, FURTHER THOSE AND, UH, HELP THOSE GET ON TRACK.
AND THEN SHIFTING TO THE NATURAL LANDS AND OPEN SPACE, THEN THERE IS, UM, SOME SORTING TO BE DONE BETWEEN DEVELOPED AND, UH, OPEN SPACE LANDS.
UH, AND THEN WITHIN THOSE, THERE'S TWO, UM, POLICIES THAT ARE 20, 25 POLICIES.
ONE IS SORT OF, UM, LIKE A OFFSETS OR SEQUESTRATION TOPIC TO BE DONE BY THE END OF THE YEAR, UM, WHICH SEEMS LIKE, UH, AT LEAST A LOW EFFORT, HIGH REWARD, UH, OPPORTUNITY.
AND THEN, UM, PERHAPS THE BIGGER LIFT WOULD BE, UM, LIKE SOME OF THE MORE COMPLETE STREETS URBAN, UH, URBAN FOREST TOPIC.
AND WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW DO WE GET TOGETHER ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE INTERESTED IN COMPLETE STREETS AND LIKE PUT SOME DATES TO IT AND MAYBE HAVE A WORKSHOP AS PART OF THE MAY 4TH WORKSHOP.
AND THEN THERE WAS, I THINK ONE OTHER THING I'M MISSING.
SO THEY KIND OF PUT THEM TOGETHER ON, UM, CARBON POSITIVE LANDSCAPE.
YEAH, THAT WAS THE OTHER THING.
THERE WAS LIKE A CARBON POSITIVE, UH, CORNERSTONE AS GUIDE AS WELL.
AND THEN AS FAR AS, UM, THE STRUCTURE OF THIS GOES, I THINK THERE'S NO PUBLIC COMMENT HERE, IS THAT, I MEAN, WE, WE DID PUBLIC COMMENT EARLIER WHEN THE AD HOCS WERE BEING DISCUSSED.
IF YOU WANNA DO IT AGAIN TO REOPEN, THAT'S FINE.
ALL RIGHT, THEN I THINK WE CAN CLOSE OUT THIS ITEM, UM, EXCITING THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY DIGGING IN.
UM, I'M DEFINITELY EXCITED ABOUT OUR NEXT AD HOC MEETING IN BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT, UH, CLIMATE ACTION MEETING.
UM, THE NEXT ITEM IS COMMISSION COMMENT.
[COMMISSION COMMENT]
DURING COMMISSION COMMENT, MEMBERS ARE INVITED TO BRIEFLY SHARE UPDATES RELEVANT TO THIS COMMISSION, INCLUDING LIAISON REPORTS FROM OTHER CITY BODIES AND MAKE REQUESTS FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. UM, DIALOGUE BETWEEN MEMBERS SHOULD BE LIMITED TO CLARIFYING QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS.THERE WILL BE NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
ARE THERE ANY COMMISSION COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT.
UH, WANTED TO, UH, GIVE, UH, ANOTHER BIG SHOUT OUT TO, UH, CITY STAFF.
I WAS ABLE A WHILE BACK TO TOUR SOME OF THE, UH, HEAT PUMP WATER HEATERS INSTALLED THROUGH THE GK 12 PROGRAM, WHICH IS, UH, COLLABORATION WITH PG E AND, UH, SONOMA CLEAN POWER TO, UH, PROVIDE DIRECT INSTALL NO COST TO THE CITY, HEAT PUMP WATER HEATERS AT, UH, AT ANY ANY PUBLIC BUILDINGS.
AND SO THE CITY WENT FOR IT AND THEY, WE GOT $300,000 WORTH OF HEAT PUMPS INSTALLED.
AND, UH, SO I, I, PATRICK ARRANGED A TOUR FOR ME, WHICH WAS REALLY FUN BECAUSE I'M THAT KIND OF NERD AND, UH, INQUIRED ABOUT DEMAND RESPONSE PROGRAMS BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE HEAT PUMP WATER HEATERS ARE ABLE TO, UH, PARTICIPATE IN DEMAND RESPONSE PROGRAMS THROUGH THE UTILITY TO, UH, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY USE ENERGY IN A MORE EFFICIENT WAY AND, AND, AND CAPITALIZE ON WHEN WE HAVE MORE RENEWABLES ON THE GRID.
AND IF THERE'S A PEAK EVENT OR A LOT OF LOT OF, UH, DEMAND FOR FOR ELECTRICITY, THEY CAN SCALE BACK.
AND SO PATRICK, UH, DOGGEDLY PURSUED THAT AND SIGN US UP.
SO IN ADDITION TO JUST GETTING ALL THESE, UH, PEOPLE IN WATER HEATERS FOR FREE AND KIND OF SHOWING THAT CITIES,
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YOU KNOW, PUTTING OUR, OUR MON WELL OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY WHERE OUR MOUTH IS, UH, YOU KNOW, AND, AND ACTUALLY ELECTRIFYING OUR BUILDINGS, WE'RE ALSO, UH, PARTICIPATING IN REALLY VALUABLE, UH, DEMAND RESPONSE PROGRAMS THAT REALLY HELP THE GRID OUT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SQUEEZING, WE LAST A LITTLE BIT OF EFFICIENCY WE CAN OUT OF THESE, UH, THESE HEAT PUMP WATER HEATERS.AND, UH, YOU KNOW, EXCITED TO KEEP MONITORING THESE THINGS AS THEY ARE INSTALLED AND, AND WHERE I CAN BE OF HELP TO PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION THAT MIGHT BE USEFUL.
YOU KNOW, UH, EXCITED TO DO MORE OF THAT.
AND I KNOW, 'CAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF PROJECTS, UH, THAT ARE, UH, UP AND COMING THAT MAY REQUIRE A LITTLE BIT OF THAT.
SO, YOU KNOW, PLEASE KEEP ME IN THE LOOP.
IF I CAN JUST TAG ON REALLY QUICK, THEY'RE GETTING INSTALLED NEXT WEDNESDAY.
YOU MEAN THE MONITORING EQUIPMENT? THE, THE DEMAND RESPONSE? YEAH.
THE, UM, UH, SEVERAL TOPICS ARE COMING UP ALL OVER THE PLACE IN WEBINARS, UM, FOR SEVERAL DIFFERENT GROUPS, BOTH AT THE LOCAL, NATIONAL AND EVEN INTERNATIONAL LEVEL.
AND THE TOPICS THAT ARE RISING UP.
THERE WAS ONE JUST EARLIER TODAY, UM, THAT WENT OVER WHAT'S CALLED A CLIMATE RESILIENCY DISTRICT AND HAD TO DO WITH HOW DO YOU FINANCIALLY PUT SOME MONEY TOGETHER IN ORDER TO LOOK AT THESE LARGER PROJECTS THAT MIGHT HAVE TO BE DONE FOR SEA LEVEL RISE AND, AND CLIMATE RESILIENCY.
AND SO THIS IS, UM, APPARENTLY, UH, I KNOW OUR SONOMA COUNTY APPARENTLY IS, IS MOVING IN THIS DIRECTION, UH, FROM A PRIOR MEETING I WAS AT WITH THE COUNTY.
AND, UM, WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS BASICALLY RESERVING MONEY IN, IN A POT NOW TAKE NORMAL EVERYDAY TAX DOLLARS THAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE, AND YOU, AND YOU ACTUALLY ENCUMBER THEM INTO AN ACCOUNT AND SAY, THIS IS SPECIFICALLY FOR A FUTURE PROJECT.
THIS SORT OF LIKE WHAT WE'VE DONE FOR THE, THE BRIDGES.
UM, AND THEN, UH, YOU USE THAT FUND FOR, UM, ACQUIRING GRANTS, DOUBLING AND TRIPLING IT FROM THE STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WHICH APPARENTLY THEY, THEY SEEMED TO BELIEVE, UH, SEVERAL OF THE SPEAKERS WHO ACTUALLY WORK IN THIS AREA TODAY, THE SPEAKERS WERE, WERE FOLKS THAT ACTUALLY DO GRANT WRITING.
UM, AND, UM, LOOK AT PROGRAMS LIKE THIS.
SO APPARENTLY THERE'S POSSIBILITIES BY CREATING THESE DISTRICTS, WHICH ARE BASICALLY FINANCIAL TOOLS, AND THEY'RE CALLED TAX, UM, IMPLEMENTATION DISTRICTS, UH, FACILITIES, UH, FINANCING.
AND WE, IT'S, IT'S, UM, UH, NOT SOMETIMES ADDING MORE TAXES TO FOLKS, BUT SOMETIMES JUST RESERVING MONIES IN A SEPARATE ENCUMBERED ACCOUNT TO DEMONSTRATE SERIOUSNESS, WHICH IS TAKEN BY THE STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS.
AND YOU GET A RANKING TWO TO THREE POINTS HIGHER.
AND, AND THAT COULD BE THE DIFFERENCE OF GETTING A GRANT AND NOT GETTING A GRANT.
SO THAT WAS, UH, ANYWAY, THAT WAS BEING PROPOSED.
I'VE HEARD THAT FROM THE, THE COUNTY WAS, IS ACTUALLY TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS TYPE OF PROGRAM.
I DIDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT WHEN I WAS AT THAT FIRST MEETING WITH THE COUNTY, BUT, UH, UH, TODAY'S SEMINAR MADE IT MUCH MORE CLEAR.
NOT ONLY IS THERE CLIMATE RESILIENCY, UH, DISTRICTS THAT YOU CAN DO, BUT THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER, THERE'S LIKE THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT TYPES OF DISTRICTS THAT CAN BE CREATED.
UH, SO THIS IS LIKE CITY STAFF FINANCE DEPARTMENT HAS TO
AND, UH, THERE WAS A COUPLE FOLKS, AND APPARENTLY LOS ANGELES IS A LEADERSHIP LEADER IN SETTING UP CITY ORDINANCES AND PROGRAMS WITH THE, WITH THEIR EQUIVALENT OF RECOLOGY, UM, UH, PROGRAM TO, AND IT'S NOT JUST, UH, TABLE, NOT JUST BAGS, NOT JUST TABLEWARE, BUT INCLUDES STYROFOAM AND OTHER THINGS.
SO THAT, SO LA IS MOVING, UH, APPARENTLY LEADING THE, THE RE PLASTICS REDUCTION AND IS ALREADY MOVING FORWARD.
SO I, I SENT, UH, LINKS TO DEB AND UM, TO, TO INVESTIGATE, UH, WHAT THESE ORDINANCES ARE, AND EVEN ERIC DANLEY.
SO THEY LOOK AT THE ACTUAL ORDINANCES THAT ARE BEING CREATED, AND ALSO BERKELEY IS ALSO FOLLOWING UP AND DOING THINGS.
SO THERE'S ALREADY A COUPLE FOLKS AHEAD OF US ALREADY WORKING ON THE, UH, PLASTICS REDUCTION, UH, THAT WE, WE, WE HAVE ON, ON OUR LIST TO DO, BUT WE'RE, UH, WE'RE ALREADY A LITTLE BEHIND.
WE'RE NOT LEADING IT, BUT WE CAN LOOK TO OTHERS.
UM, ARE THERE AREAS THAT ARE BEING TALKED ABOUT, UH, LET'S SAY IN INTERNATIONALLY IS, UH, TIPPING POINTS, UH, FOR CLIMATE CHANGE.
AND APPARENTLY WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO, UM, AN OCEAN.
OUR OCEAN CONVEYOR BELT, WHICH IS ALL OVER THE GLOBE, MOVES WATER, UM, UH, THAT'S A COUPLE FOLKS HAVE, ARE, ARE SAYING THAT'S ALREADY DECLINED AND SLOWING DOWN AND IS ALREADY POSSIBLY HAVING AN IMPACT.
UM, AND THAT WITHIN, NOT JUST WITHIN, THAT ALL MEANT NOT A HUNDRED YEARS, BUT NOW WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT TENS OF YEARS, UH, THAT THE IMPACT'S GONNA BE FELT.
SO SOMETHING WE NEED TO WATCH THERE.
AND THAT WAS THE NUMBER ONE TIPPING POINT THAT, UH, THEY SEEM TO BE MOST CONCERNED ABOUT RIGHT NOW.
THAT MIGHT BE TRIGGERING SOMETHING.
UH, AS WELL AS, I THINK THERE'S ABOUT NINE TIPPING POINTS TO LOOK AT, UH, TOTAL
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THAT'S BEEN, UH, UH, RECOGNIZED.BUT THE, BUT HAVING OCEAN CURRENT CONVEYOR BELT SHIFT THAT WOULD CHANGE THE ENTIRE GLOBAL CLIMATE, UM, RAPIDLY, MAYBE NOT AS MUCH AS WHAT THE, UM, THE DAY AFTER TOMORROW DOES IN THE MOVIE, BUT, UH, SUBSTANTIAL ENOUGH IT WOULD CAUSE GLOBAL CHAOS.
SO SOMETHING WE NEED TO BE WATCHING AND LOOKING OUT FOR.
UM, ANOTHER AREA THAT, UM, OTHER FOLKS ARE, THAT I'VE SEEN CROP UP IN A COUPLE DIFFERENT PLACES NOW IS CARBON CAPTURE.
SO WHETHER USING, UM, UH, WE NATURAL SYSTEMS ARE BEST, BUT WE MAY HAVE TO ACTUALLY END UP DOING MORE, UH, HIGH TECH INDUSTRIAL CARBON CAPTURE, UM, IF WE KEEP GOING ON THIS TRACK.
UH, SO THEY'RE SAYING, OKAY, WE NEED, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT CHANGING OUR BEHAVIORS FAST ENOUGH SOON ENOUGH, UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT CARBON CAPTURE OR REALLY GO OVER LIMITS.
SO, UM, AND APPARENTLY THAT'S BECOMING A, A HOT TOPIC IN A COUPLE DIFFERENT AREAS.
SO THESE THINGS ARE, ARE HAPPENING OUTSIDE OF OUR CITY THAT, THAT WE NEED TO BE, UH, PAYING ATTENTION TO.
UM, AND IT IS GONNA COME BACK, UH, TO US.
SO I'LL, I'LL KEEP TRY TO KEEP WATCHING THESE THINGS AND, AND BRING INFORMATION BACK AS I CAN.
SO, AND AS YOU KNOW, WE, WE PASSED THE BLUEPRINT, UH, THE COUNCIL, SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.
I GUESS WE FORGOT TO CELEBRATE THAT AT THE VERY BEGINNING,
UM, WOULD ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? UH, I HAVE, I HAVE SOMETHING BASIC.
UM, THE FRONT PAGE OF THE IJ TODAY, IT, UH, TALKED ABOUT THE, I GUESS IT'S A NEW, UH, CONCEPT, THE MARIN SONOMA COORDINATED TRANSIT SERVICE.
THE PRESENTATION TO TAM THAT HAPPENED WITHIN THE LAST WEEK ALSO SOUNDED AMAZING, BUT THIS IS THE SIX NORTH BAY TRANSIT OPERATORS INCLUDING PETAL LIMIT TRANSIT AND THEN THE THREE FUNDING AGENCIES IN A WORKING GROUP TO COORDINATE, UM, TRANSIT ACTIVITIES, COORDINATE ROUTES, LOOK AT HOW THE SPINE OF THE SMART SYSTEM CAN BE ENHANCED.
AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT WAS LIKE, UM, AN AMAZING NEWSPAPER ARTICLE AND VERY INSPIRING.
AND UM, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE THE TRANSIT COMMITTEE IS PROBABLY IN THE KNOW ON THIS, BUT, UM, IF WE COULD FURTHER PROMULGATE THE TOPIC, I THINK THAT WOULD BE, UH, IN OUR OWN INTERESTS.
UH, YEAH, I LOVE OF THE, THAT I'LL HAVE TO CHECK OUT THAT ARTICLE, BUT, UH, CURIOUS, ANYONE WRITTEN, UH, LUMA GO.
YEAH, I, I'M, I'M BUMMED IT DOESN'T GO NEAR MY HOUSE YET, SO I, I, I'M PUSHING, UH, TALK TO JARED ABOUT IT AND I'M LIKE, YOU GUYS GOTTA EXPAND THIS, HOPEFULLY BY NEXT YEAR AND, 'CAUSE I CAN'T WAIT TO TAKE IT AND TELL MY FRIENDS TO TAKE IT.
SO BEN, DO YOU KNOW IF THAT'S PART OF THE LARGER SEAMLESS BAY AREA INITIATIVE? I THINK THEY'RE JUST PROCEEDING YOUR PERSPECTIVE OF THAT.
WELL, HOPEFULLY THAT MEANS GETTING AHEAD OF IT AND I MEAN, MTC WAS THERE, SO THAT'S, UM, JUST A QUESTION I WAS, IS, IS THE CITY GONNA BE ANALYZING PROP FOUR A LITTLE BIT AND SEE WHAT'S MIGHT BECOME AVAILABLE? UM, IN TERMS OF FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES? IT, IT, IT HAS ALL INDICATIONS THAT HAVE PASSED THE CLIMATE BOND.
UM, YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY.
UM, A LOT OF THAT IS RELATED TO, UM, REDUCING WILDFIRE RISK AND, AND, UM, MITIGATION ON THAT FRONT.
I WISH THERE WAS MORE ABOUT ELECTRIFICATION.
UM, AND, UH, BUT BE THAT AS IT MAY, THERE, THERE MAY BE WAYS THAT WE CAN APPROACH SOME OF THOSE RESILIENCE TASKS FROM, UH, YOU KNOW, DISASTER PREVENTION STANDPOINT.
UM, SO YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE DEFINITELY VERY INTERESTED IN, IN, IN HOW THAT MONEY GETS, GETS PUT OUT AND WE'RE GONNA BE FOLLOWING THAT FOR SURE.
OR DISASTER READINESS, RIGHT? YEAH.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION? NO.
UM, I DO WANNA THANK COOL PETALUMA FOR BLASTING THIS MEETING OUT TO THE, UM, LIST THE, YOUR LIST OF PEOPLE TODAY.
UM, IT OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T WORK THIS TIME, BUT I ALSO BLASTED IT OUT TO LIKE 50 PEOPLE WHO NONE OF THEM SHOWED UP EITHER.
SO
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TO DO AND THEY SENT ME FOUR TIMES THAT THEY'RE DOING A BREAKFAST FOR THE TEACHERS, AND THE FOURTH TIME IS THE TIME THAT I SIGNED UP TO BRING SOMETHING.SO I THINK IF WE JUST KEEP ASKING PEOPLE WILL COME.
UM, AND THEN THE SECOND ONE, UM, IS JUST KIND OF ALONG THE SAME LINE.
JUST LIKE EVERYBODY WHO'S HERE, IF YOU, UM, THINK OF ANY SPEAKERS THAT YOU WANNA COME AND TALK ABOUT A PARTICULAR TOPIC, YOU CAN SHOOT THEM MY WAY.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO REMEMBER IT, JUST SEND ME A TEXT OR AN EMAIL.
AND I HAVE LIKE A SPREADSHEET, LIKE OF, OF PEOPLE THAT WE'RE INVITING, UM, TO COME DO JUST LIKE A 10 MINUTE PRESENTATION, UM, ABOUT WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY'RE DOING IN CLIMATE WORK.
AND THEN, UM, ALSO, I KNOW THAT SOMETIMES PEOPLE COME UP AND BE LIKE, OH, I WANNA GET INVOLVED, BUT LIKE, I DON'T KNOW.
AND SO I'M KEEPING A LIST OF THOSE PEOPLE TOO, JUST SORT OF LIKE COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
SO IF YOU MEET SOMEBODY IN YOUR TALKS AND THEY'RE LIKE, OH, HOW COULD I DO SOMETHING? SEND THEM TO ME.
AND THAT WAY WE HAVE LIKE ONE LIST AND I CAN, YOU KNOW, LIKE I HAVE A LITTLE LIKE A TOPIC PIECE THAT'S LIKE, THIS IS THE STUFF THAT THIS PERSON IS INTERESTED IN.
SO THEN WHEN WE NEED PEOPLE TO COME TO THESE THINGS, THEN WE HAVE EXACT PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN THOSE THINGS.
SO JUST KEEP, UM, SEND ME THOSE, THOSE PEOPLE PLEASE.
UM, I THINK, OH, ONE MORE THING.
I WOULD LOVE TO TALK ABOUT THE CITY'S WEBSITE AND HOW WE NEED IT AS A TOOL TO, UM, TO BE EDUCATING AND INFORMING THE PUBLIC, UH, ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN CLIMATE ACTION.
WE TALKED BEFORE ABOUT, UM, HAVING SPEAKERS COME IN AND TALK ABOUT TOPICS.
UM, COULD THOSE BE VIA ZOOM OR DO THEY HAVE TO PHYSICALLY BE HERE? I THINK THEY CAN BE VIA ZOOM, RIGHT? YEAH.
WE CAN HAVE VIRTUAL PRESENTATION.
SO IF WE GET SOMEBODY REALLY COOL, BUT THEY'RE LOCATED SOMEWHERE ELSE AND THEY COULD JUST ZOOM IN AND TALK ABOUT, OKAY.
SOMEBODY REALLY COOL WOULD BE AWESOME.
SO, BUT OUR MEETING ISN'T ACTUALLY BROADCAST VIA ZOOM, RIGHT? IT'S, IT, UM, PEOPLE CAN JOIN SIMULTANEOUSLY VIA OUR WEBSITE.
THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE.
BUT THEY CAN, THEY CAN VIEW, YEAH.
YEAH, I THINK WE WENT OVER THAT BEFORE AND IT DIDN'T STICK.
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REPORT IS NEXT, IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH.UM, I KNOW WE SENT THE EMAIL TO, UM, ALL THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSIONERS EARLIER, BUT, UM, OUR PUBLIC WORKS AND UTILITIES DEPARTMENT IS REALLY PUTTING THEIR, UH, THEIR MONEY WHERE THEIR MOUTH IS.
AND THEY'VE CREATED A SAFE STREETS AND MOBILITY DIVISION WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT THAT'S REALLY FOCUSED ON ALL THESE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION, LIKE REALLY INTEGRATING THE, THE STREETS AND, AND, UM, TRAFFIC SIGNALS, BIKE PAD TRANSIT INTO LIKE A, A UNIFIED TEAM.
SO THEY'RE LOOKING AT THOSE ISSUES HOLISTICALLY.
UM, IT'S GONNA BE LED BY JEFF STUTZMAN IN, IN THE DEPARTMENT.
UM, AND A LOT OF FAMILIAR FACES YOU'LL, YOU'LL SEE IN THERE AND OTHER NAMES THAT YOU'VE HEARD TALKED ABOUT IN OTHER CONTEXTS ARE, ARE IN THAT, THAT DIVISION.
SO IT'S JUST, UH, REALLY EXCITING THAT IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, REALLY SHOWS THE CITY'S FOCUS ON THOSE ISSUES AND TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE HAVING ALL THE PEOPLE AT THE TABLE AT THE SAME TIME.
SO WE'RE ADDRESSING THOSE ISSUES AND TRYING TO PROMOTE THAT ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION AND JUST GETTING AROUND PETALUMA IN, IN A SAFE AND EFFICIENT AND, YOU KNOW, LEAST CARBON WAY POSSIBLE.
SO JUST EXCITED TO, TO HAVE THAT OFFICIAL AND, AND OUT THERE NOW, UM, THAT'S THE BIG ONE I'M THINKING OF.
OBVIOUSLY WE ALREADY MENTIONED THE BLUEPRINT WAS PASSED.
UH, DEB, DID YOU WANNA ADD ANYTHING? ALL RIGHT, THAT'S ALL.
UM, AT THIS POINT WE'VE REACHED THE ADJOURNMENT PART OF THE MEETING.
ARE WE HAVING A DECEMBER MEETING? THAT'S A GREAT POINT.
I'D LOVE TO DO A QUORUM CHECK RIGHT NOW WHILE WE CAN, THE MEETING WOULD BE DECEMBER 12TH AT SIX 30, AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD DISCUSS TOO.
BEFORE WE WERE KIND OF FORCED TO HAVE A MEETING AT SIX 30 BECAUSE THERE WAS THE, UM, TRANSIT, UH, COMMITTEE BEFORE AND THEY'VE MOVED TO A DIFFERENT DAY.
SO IF IT WOULD BE ADVENTS TO START THIS MEETING EARLIER, 5, 5 30, 6 O'CLOCK, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD TALK ABOUT AS A GROUP, SEPARATE AGENDA ITEM FROM WHETHER THERE'S A MEETING.
BUT I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE AS A POTENTIAL DISCUSSION FOR A FUTURE MEETING AS WELL.
IS THERE ANYONE THAT THEY KNOW RIGHT OFF THE BAT? THEY CANNOT MAKE DECEMBER 12TH? YEAH.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE A QUORUM.
AND, UM, I WOULD LOVE TO MOVE IT TO SIX IF IT WORKS FOR EVERYBODY ELSE.
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WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE TO AGENDIZE THAT IN THE FUTURE.BUT YEAH, I WAS JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE, THAT THAT'S ON THE MENU OF THINGS THAT CAN CHANGE BECAUSE NOW WE'RE NOT, THERE'S NOT A MEETING RIGHT BEFORE THIS THAT'S FORCING US TO HAVE IT LATER.
SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT LATER.
ANYTHING ELSE? ALL RIGHT THEN, UH, LET'S ADJOURN THE MEETING AT EIGHT 12.