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ALL RIGHT, IT'S JUST ABOUT THREE 30.
I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR JOINING US AT THIS REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING, RECORDING IN PROGRESS.
I WANNA THANK EVERYONE FOR JOINING US AT THIS REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING OF PETALUMA TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON NOVEMBER 20TH.
TO KICK US OFF, I'LL ASK THE CITY CLERK TO DO ROLL CALL EWING.
WE'VE GOT A FULL HOUSE AND A PACKED
[GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT]
MEETING.UH, THE NEXT WE'LL MOVE ON TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON ITEMS OF PUBLIC INTEREST THAT ARE WITHIN THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION, AND THAT ARE NOT LISTED ON THE CURRENT AGENDA.
PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED UP TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON, DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF PERSONS WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS COMMITTEE.
TIME WILL BE ALLOCATED IN EQUAL SHARES TOTALING NO MORE THAN 20 MINUTES.
GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS, SPEAKER CARDS, AND I'LL THE CITY CLERK.
DID WE RECEIVE ANY GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS ONLINE PRIOR TO THE MEETING? NO, WE DID NOT.
WELL THEN I'LL START WITH FOLKS HERE IN THE ROOM.
AND IF I MISPRONOUNCE YOUR LAST NAME, THAT IS MY APOLOGIES.
WE'LL START OFF WITH LANE ANO, UH, FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, I, YOU CAN GO UP TO THE PODIUM AND FEEL FREE TO ADJUST THAT MIC WITH A LITTLE BENDY ARM TO BE IN A GOOD SPOT FOR YOU.
I AM A RECENT HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATE FROM MORGANTOWN, WEST VIRGINIA.
UM, I'M AN AMERICORPS AND CCC MEMBER OF TEAM BLUE TWO, AND WE ARE HERE IN PETALUMA, UM, HELPING WITH THE INITIATION OF THE RESIDENTIAL TREE PLANTING PROGRAM ACROSS PETALUMA.
RELIEF AND REBUILDING TOGETHER HAVE SPONSORED OUR EFFORTS TO PLANT TREES ACROSS THE CITY IN PEOPLE'S YARDS.
UM, I'VE BEEN VERY GRATEFUL FOR THIS WORK.
UM, THE TYPICAL DAY-TO-DAY IS WE WILL GET TO THE REBUILDING TOGETHER OFFICE.
WE'LL GO OUT TO OUR PROJECT SITES AND PLANT THE TREES BEFORE BEING SHUTTLE TO OUR NEXT SITES.
AND IN THE AFTERNOON, UM, IT'S MUCH THE SAME EXCEPT FOR A SMALL TEAM.
WE'LL GO TO THE, UM, TO DELIVER TOMORROW'S TREES.
IF YOU ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE ADOBE SOIL HERE IN PETALUMA, IT'S BEEN, SOME TREES TAKE LONGER THAN OTHERS.
UM, BUT I'VE REALLY ENJOYED IT.
I THINK EVERYONE'S REALLY ENJOYED IT SO FAR.
IT'S BEEN VERY GRATIFYING WORK.
AND I THINK MY FAVORITE PROJECT SO FAR HAS BEEN THE PLANTING AT THE LA TRIC ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
UH, WE PLANTED 29 TREES THERE.
A LOT OF THE KIDS GOT VERY INVOLVED COMING UP, ASKING QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE? A LOT OF 'EM WERE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE TREES.
I MYSELF GOT ASKED IF I WAS A GHOSTBUSTER AND ASKED IF I WAS A GRAVE DIGGER.
UM, BUT THERE WAS A LOT OF FUN.
UH, I REALLY THINK THE, THE CHILDREN'S EXCITEMENT, UH, RAISED A LOT OF SPIRITS ON THE TEAM.
UM, SO FAR WE'VE, UH, WE'VE PLANTED ABOUT 116 TREES AND WE HOPE TO REALLY PLANT A LOT MORE IN THE THREE AND A HALF WEEKS WE HAVE LEFT HERE.
UM, SO ONCE AGAIN, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO, UM, RELIEF AND REBUILDING TOGETHER, PETALUMA FOR GIVING ME AND EVERYONE ELSE THIS OPPORTUNITY.
UH, AND UP NEXT WE HAVE ANNA GIBBONS, FOLLOWED BY TAMARA NORMAN.
UM, I'M THE TEAM LEAD FOR OUR, UM, AMERICORPS TEAM.
AND I'M JUST GONNA GIVE YOU A LITTLE, UM, BRIEF INTRODUCTION TO WHAT AMERICORPS IS AND THE PROGRAM THAT WE'RE DOING.
UM, SO WE ARE AMERICORPS AND TRIPLE C, WHICH IS THE NATIONAL, UH, CIVILIAN COMMUNITY CORPS.
UM, WE ARE A TEAM BASED PROGRAM OF, UM, YOUNG ADULTS FROM AGES 18 TO 26.
AND WE HAVE THE FULL RANGE ON OUR TEAM.
AND WE ARE ONE OF 17 TEAMS DEPLOYED IN THE PACIFIC REGION, UM, DOING WORK FOR AMERICA.
SO OUR TEAM, OUR, UM, PROJECTS CAN BE WITH NONPROFITS OR GOVERNMENTAL ORGANIZATIONS.
AND SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE WORKING WITH, UM, RELIEF TO PLANT TREES HERE IN PETALUMA.
BUT WE, FOR OUR NEXT ROUND AFTER THIS, THESE THREE WEEKS, WE COULD BE WORKING ON, UM, DISASTER RELIEF, MITIGATING CLIMATE CHANGE OR, UM, BUILDING HOMES FOR, UM, PEOPLE IN NEED.
SO YEAH, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE WORK THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING HERE, AND WE JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU, UM, AN INTRODUCTION TO OUR TEAM AND, AND THE, THE WORK WE'VE BEEN DOING IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND THANK YOU TO THE GROUP FOR BEING WITH US TODAY.
WE APPRECIATE YOU GUYS BEING HERE.
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YEAH, IT'S TAMARA, UM, TAMARA NORMAN.UM, THIS, THAT'S REALLY COOL, ISN'T IT? THAT'S, IT'S NICE TO HAVE SOMETHING POSITIVE.
AND I'M SORRY TO BE A LITTLE BIT OF A DOWNER NOW, BUT, UM,
'CAUSE THE FORMAT OF THE MEETING IS DIFFERENT THAN I RECALL.
UM, I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE TREE REMOVAL THAT HAS RECENTLY HAPPENED JUST EAST OF MCDOWELL AND EAST WASHINGTON.
SO IF YOU'RE AT THE STOPLIGHT OF EAST WASHINGTON AND MCDOWELL, AND IF YOU'RE COMING FROM TOWN, IT'S THAT LEFT CORNER.
UM, RECENTLY THERE'S BEEN A SIGNIFICANT TO TOTAL REMOVAL OF A SIGNIFICANT AREA.
AND, UM, SO I KIND OF FOLLOWED UP WITH, WELL, WHO OWNS IT AND WHAT'S HAPPENING, AND, UM, IT'S PRETTY EXTREME.
UM, A COUPLE REASONS I'M CONCERNED.
I MEAN, AESTHETICALLY IT DOES NOT LOOK GOOD.
UM, WE'VE LOST A CHUNK OF CANOPY THAT WE USED TO HAVE.
AND AS A CITY, WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO PROMOTE TREE CANOPY AND BE CLIMATE READY, IT'S TO ME, KIND OF REPRESENTATIVE OF A SITUATION OF LIKE, OOH, HOW CAN WE MAYBE TREAT THIS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT? SO RIGHT, RIGHT.
NOW, I DID TALK TO, UM, IT BELONGS TO THE SONOMA COUNTY WATER AGENCY.
THEY NEEDED TO DO EMERGENCY WORK, UM, CONTACTED THE CITY.
PETALUMA, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY SAY IN THAT PER SE, BUT IT DOES BRING UP AN ISSUE OF KIND OF A GRAY AREA.
THEY NEED TO DO THE WORK, BUT WHAT CAN THEY DO TO REPLACE IT? AND RIGHT NOW THE ANSWER IS ZERO.
LIKE, IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE THAT.
SO MY QUESTION AND WHAT I'M POSING TO THE CITY AND WILL BE THE COUNTY, IS CAN WE THINK ABOUT THIS ENGINEERING IN MAYBE A DIFFERENT WAY? AND UNFORTUNATELY WE CAN'T REPLACE IT AS AS IT WAS.
SO HERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE WE HAVE TO START THINKING ABOUT THINGS IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
AND THE IMPACTS, BECAUSE WE KEEP REDUCING OUR TREE CANOPY BECAUSE OF CERTAIN WHATEVER NEEDS, ENGINEERING, SAFETY, THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT TO KIND OF REINSTATE CANOPY, HOW DO WE DO THAT? SO I'D REALLY WANNA KIND OF, I'M HOPING THAT THE CITY CAN MAYBE LOOK AT IT IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
MAYBE THERE'S SOME GRANT FUNDING TO ENGINEER IT.
RIGHT NOW IT HAS LIKE CANTED SIDES, UM, THE ENGINEERING WITH STRAIGHT SIDES, LIKE IS THERE, THERE'S PROBABLY A DIFFERENT WAY TO ENGINEER IT, RIGHT? IT MIGHT COST MORE MONEY, IT MIGHT TAKE A LITTLE TIME, BUT THIS IS KIND OF, UM, AN INVESTMENT IN TERMS OF THE COMMUNITY AND FOR CLIMATE THAT I THINK IS POSSIBLE.
BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S ON NOBODY'S TABLE.
SO, UM, I GUESS MY COMMENT IS HOW DO WE GET THAT IN THE CONVERSATION? THANK YOU.
AND YOU'VE JUST ELUCIDATED SOMETHING I KNOW A LOT OF OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS, UH, ARE CONCERNED ABOUT AS WELL.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT.
[PRESENTATIONS]
SO WITH THAT, I WILL CLOSE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT AND I WILL MOVE US ON TO THE PRESENTATIONS PORTION OF OUR MEETING.AND HERE WE HAVE RELIEF, UH, TO GIVE US A PRESENTATION ON THEIR PETALUMA PLANTING PLANS AND UPDATES.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE CAROLYN LACERA FROM RELIEF.
IT'S NICE TO SEE EVERYBODY AGAIN,
UM, SO I'M HERE TO PRESENT OUR CONTINUING PLANTING PLANS AND UPDATES FOR THE 20 24 20 25 SEASON.
UM, SO WE'VE GOT SORT OF A LONG LIST.
SO THIS IS JUST, UM, SORT OF TELLING YOU, UM, AHEAD OF TIME WHAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT, AND THEN WE'LL GO INTO MORE DETAIL ON EACH ONE.
SO THESE ARE UPDATES AND PLAN PROJECTS, UM, FOR THE RE OAKING EAST SIDE CONNECTOR TRAIL, PETALUMA SPORTS CENTER, AND SONOMA MOUNTAIN PARKWAY.
SO, UM, AS AN UPDATE, WE'VE COMPLETED RE OAKING PROJECTS ON SECTION ONE BETWEEN CORONA CREEK SCHOOL AND CORONA CREEK.
WE HAVE PLANTED SECTION TWO BETWEEN KENNELWORTH JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL AND SANTA ROSA JUNIOR COLLEGE OF ABOUT 85 TREES.
AND THE TRAIL BEHIND SONOMA MOUNTAIN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, WHICH LINES THE, THE WALKWAY WITH 17 TREES.
UM, SO MOVING FORWARD FOR 20 24, 20 24, WE'RE CONTINUING WITH RV OAKING.
UH, WE WOULD LOVE TO CONTINUE WITH RV OAKING, UM, AT CORONA CREEK BEHIND KENILWORTH JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL.
THERE'S A CONFLUENCE OF TWO CREEKS THERE,
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UM, WHICH WE WERE HOPING TO PLANT BETWEEN 80 TO 90 TREES.AND THEN ADOBE CREEK AT CASA GRANDE, UH, THAT OPEN SPACE THERE.
WE'RE HOPING FOR ABOUT 65 TO 70 TREES.
AND THEN CONTINUING WITH SONOMA MOUNTAIN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, DOING THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE TRAIL THAT WE ALREADY DID.
AND THEN CONTINUING ON, UM, BORDERING THE OPEN SPACE THERE.
AND THEN OUR OTHER PLANNED PROJECTS ARE THE PETALUMA SPORTS CENTER, UM, WITH 10 TREES IN FINGER ISLANDS THAT ARE IRRIGATED.
AND SONOMA MOUNTAIN PARKWAY, UM, THE CENTER ISLAND THERE WITH 20 TREES.
YEAH, SO OUR FIRST, UM, EAST SIDE CONNECTOR TRAIL THAT I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IS THE CORONA CREEK, UM, AND KENILWORTH JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL.
IT'S, UM, BEHIND THE HIGH, UH, JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL.
AND THE AREA THERE THAT'S IN YELLOW IS OWNED BY THE CITY UP TO THE CREEK.
AND WE WOULD LIKE TO WHERE THE GREEN LINES ARE BORDERING THE CREEKS, UM, PLANT ALONG CLOSER TO THE CREEKS, UM, WITH, UH, ABOUT AND TREEING UP THE AREA TO SUPPORT THE CREEKS.
UM, ALSO THERE'S SHOULD BE PROBABLY A GREEN LINE, UH, BELOW THE CREEK THERE.
BUT, UM, SO WE'LL START WITH THE GREEN LINES WITH OUR PLANS.
AND THEN AS OUR WATERING PLAN COMES INTO CLEARVIEW, WE ARE HOPING TO DO THE CENTRAL AREAS WITH GROUPS OF TREES.
UM, AND I JUST PUT LITTLE PICTURES THERE SO YOU CAN MAYBE IMAGINE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
AND THEN OUR NEXT ONE IS THE EAST SIDE CONNECTOR TRAIL AT ADOBE CREEK AND CASA GRANDE ROAD.
SO THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT IS THE WHOLE AREA.
UM, AND THEN THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT IS SORT OF A BLOWN UP CUTOUT OF ALONG THE CREEK.
SO ALONG THE CREEK, UM, YOU COULD SEE THOSE RED DOTS ARE WHERE WE ARE HOPING WHAT, WHAT I HAVE MEASURED OUT TO BE AROUND ABOUT 40 TREES ALONG THE CREEK THERE.
UM, AND THEN ON THE CENTRAL PART OF THE PLAN, THERE ARE SOME GROUP, THERE ARE SOME AREAS UP AT THE TOP DRY AREAS, UM, WHICH WE COULD PLANT GROUPS OF TREES, UM, AND AT THE BOTTOM.
AND, UM, THAT IS AN AREA WITH VERNAL POOLS, POOLS IN THE CENTER, UM, WHICH WE ARE AVOIDING.
AND, UM, STICKING TO THE AREAS ON THE EDGES SO WE CAN ADD CANOPY, BUT ALSO ADD PERS FOR BIRDS, UM, TO PERCH ON.
AND, UM, YEAH, SO ADDING TREES TO THE AREA TO BENEFIT THE CANOPY AND THE WILDLIFE
OKAY, THE NEXT ONE IS THE EAST SIDE CONNECTOR TRAIL PATH.
UH, UM, SO IT'S SONOMA MOUNTAIN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS ON THE LEFT.
AND WHERE THAT GREEN AREA IS, WE HAVE ALREADY PUT TREES ALONG THE PATH CLOSEST TO THE GREEN AREA.
AND SO OUR NEXT STEP WILL BE TO PUT TREES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PATH TO SHADE THE PATHWAY AND TO CREATE MORE CANOPY AND COVER FOR THOSE PEOPLE USING THE PATH.
AND THEN AS YOU GO AROUND, UM, YOU'LL SEE TWO LINES.
SO WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS DO TWO LINES OF TREES, WHICH ARE STAGGERED, UM, AND THEN CONTINUING TO THE RIGHT FRAME THAT, UM, IS CONTINUING ALONG THE OPEN SPACE, WHICH IS ALSO ALONG THE WALKING PATH.
SO PROVIDING A DOUBLE LAYER OF TREES FOR SHADE AND CANOPY FOR THE TRAIL USERS.
SO, UM, THE RE OAKING SPECIES THAT WE'RE USING ARE WILLOW BOX ELDER COTTONWOOD, NORTHERN CALIFORNIA, BLACK WALNUT, A VARIETY OF OAKS, UM, OREGON ASH, WESTERN SYCAMORE, AND WHITE ALDER.
AND THEN OUR GENERAL RE OAKING PLAN IS, UM, THAT THE AMERICORPS TEAM WILL BE A BIG PART OF OUR PLANTING PLAN.
UM, AND WE'LL ADD TREES TO ENHANCE COOLING AND CANOPY, UM, AND COVER ALONG THE TRAILS.
WE'LL ADD TREES ALONG THE CREEK TO HELP PROTECT CREEK QUARTERS.
WE'LL BALANCE GRASSLAND WITH SHADE AND COVER FOR BIRDS, AND WE'LL AVOID THE WETLANDS AREAS.
WE'LL BE USING A MIX OF ACORNS AND SEEDLINGS, AND WE'LL PLANT 40 FEET APART AND 10 FEET FROM SIDEWALKS.
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OKAY, SO THE OUTREACH FOR ING, UM, WE WILL BE PUTTING UP SANDWICH BOARD SIGNS TELLING PEOPLE THAT ING IS COMING.IF THERE ARE HOMES ALONG THE OPEN SPACE, WE WILL FLYER THEM.
AND IF HOMES BORDER, THE PLANTINGS WILL DO SOME WEEKEND TABLING TO TRY TO GET THE WORD OUT TO EVERYBODY.
UM, NOW THE PET PETALUMA CITY SPORTS COMPLEX, THIS IS PART OF THE UPDATE.
IT WAS, UM, I BELIEVE FIRST TALKED ABOUT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO IN THE SIX PARKS GRANT.
UM, BUT RIGHT NOW WE, UM, IRRIGATION IS READY IN THESE FINGER ISLANDS, SO WE'RE ABLE TO PLANT THERE.
SO THERE'LL BE 10 TREES, AND WE ARE LOOKING AT PLAS MOSIS, THE WESTERN SYCAMORES, THE CORCAS AGRI FOLIA COAST LIVE OAK, AND THE CORCAS LODA, THE VALLEY OAKS.
SO WHAT, WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO DO THERE IS PROVIDE SOME BIG SHADE TREES TO REALLY PROVIDE COVER FOR THAT PARKING AREA, WHICH IS JUST REFLECTING HEAT.
AND THEN OUR, AND ONE OF OUR NEW PROJECTS IS SONOMA MOUNTAIN PARKWAY FROM RIESLING ROAD TO ACADIA DRIVE.
SO I'M JUST, THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT SLIDES SHOWING THREE DIFFERENT SECTIONS OF THE ROAD.
SO STARTING AT RIESLING ROAD, WE ARE GOING TO USE, UH, WE'RE PROPOSING USING CORCUS AGRO FOLIA AND SOME PRUNUS ALIIF FOLIA.
ON THE NEXT SLIDE, WE ARE PROPOSING SOME TOYON, GOLDEN, GOLDEN DAVID'S GOLD'S TOYON WITH THE GOLDEN BERRIES AND CORCAS WAS LINE THE INTERIOR LIVE OAK.
AND THEN ON THE LAST SECTION, UM, WE'VE GOT MOORE, UM, TOYON DAVID'S GOLD, AND ALSO WEST WESTERN SYCAMORE.
AND SO THERE'S A TOTAL OF ABOUT 20 TREES TO REPLACE THE TREES THAT DIED, I BELIEVE THAT, UM, THAT DIED.
AND UM, SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE CREATING A PARKWAY THAT'S BEAUTIFUL AND ALSO GOOD FOR ALL THE BENEFICIALS.
UM, FUNDING FOR ALL OF THESE PROJECTS IS PROVIDED BY THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT IN THE USDA FOREST SERVICE URBAN AND COMMUNITY FORESTRY PROGRAMS, AND ALL OF OUR PARTNERS ARE SEEN THERE, WHICH HELP US WITH ALL OF OUR ON DIFFERENT PROJECTS.
AND, UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALLOWING US TO PRESENT AND FOR ALL OF YOUR TIME AND EFFORTS.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION, CAROLYN.
UH, I'LL LOOK TO THE COMMITTEE FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
UM, JUST AN APPRECIATION FOR WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING AND FOR AMERICORPS RELIEF TO JOINTLY, UH, BE DOING REALLY GOOD WORK.
UH, THE CITY HAS, HAS OPENED UP OR HAS OFFERED A COMPLETE LACK OF ANY INVOLVEMENT.
SO I'M GLAD SOMEONE'S PICKING IT UP AND LOOKING AT THE, BOTH PLANTING THEIR TREES, BUT ALSO TAKING ON THE PRIVATE, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS AND ENCOURAGING THEM, THE PLANT TREES.
SO, UH, UH, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.
WE, UM, APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.
YEAH, I ALSO WANNA JUST APPRECIATE YOU AND, UH, ALL THE WORK THAT RELIEF AND WELCOME ALL YOU GUYS FROM AMERICORPS.
WE'RE VERY GLAD TO HAVE YOU HERE.
I WAS, UH, UH, A LITTLE KICK IN MY STEP WHEN I SAW YOU ALL, WHEN I CAME INTO THE ROOM TODAY,
AND, UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR DOING THIS GREAT WORK AND, UM, UH, YEAH, AND JUST ACKNOWLEDGE RELIEF AND DAILY ACTS AND REBUILDING TOGETHER AND THE GOOD WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING IN TOWN.
AND, UM, IT'S, I WAS, AS YOU WERE SHARING THIS, I WAS JUST THINKING, UM, OF, YOU KNOW, 50 YEARS FROM NOW, UM, THE IMPACT THAT THIS WILL HAVE AND, AND PEOPLE WILL REMEMBER THESE DAYS THAT WE WERE DOING THESE THINGS.
I ALSO WANTED TO, UM, SAY THAT I'M REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THE AMERICORPS CREW HERE.
UH, MANY, MANY YEARS AGO I WAS IN A GROUP CALLED THE CALIFORNIA CONSERVATION CORPS, AND, UH, WE DID A LOT OF THE SIMILAR TYPE OF WORK AND IT, UH, REALLY HAD
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A BIG IMPACT ON MY LIFE.I BECAME A, UH, RECREATION PARKS PROFESSIONAL FOR ALMOST 30 YEARS AND RETIRED AS AN OPERATIONS MANAGER FROM THE SAN FRANCISCO RECREATION AND PARK DEPARTMENT.
AND NOW, UH, THAT I'M RETIRED, TRYING TO SHARE MY KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE AS A COMMISSIONER HERE IN PETALUMA.
SO, UM, THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR WORK.
I AM EXCITED THAT YOU ALL ARE DOING THIS TYPE OF WORK, AND I HOPE THAT YOU LOOK FORWARD TO CAREERS THAT ARE RELATED TO THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING NOW, BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S VERY MUCH NEEDED, UH, FOR ALL OF OUR FUTURE.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, RY YEAH, I'LL ADD TO THE, THE THANKS.
AND I HOPE YOU GUYS COME BACK HERE IN 30, 50 YEARS AND, AND SEE THE RESULTS OF ALL THIS GREAT WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE.
I JUST HAVE A COMMENT ABOUT THE CHOICE OF TREES.
UH, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE VALLEY OAKS, UM, AS IN THOSE MEDIANS RATHER THAN THE COAST LIVE OAK, YOU KNOW, MY CONCERNS ABOUT THE COAST LIVE OAK AND, AND THEIR SUSCEPTIBILITY TO SUDDEN OAK DEATH, AS WELL AS HOW WELL YOU'RE GONNA DO IN OUR INCREASINGLY WARM CLIMATE.
UM, SO YEAH, THAT WOULD BE MY, MY HOPE THAT YOU PLANT MORE OF THOSE.
AND AS WELL, YOU KNOW, MY OVERALL WISH THAT YOU WOULD LOOK AT OAKS FROM, UM, SOME OF OUR OTHER REGIONS IN CALIFORNIA, SUCH AS ENGLEMAN'S.
JUST A SPECIFIC QUESTION AROUND THE, UM, WELL FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU.
IT LOOKS, UH, PRESENTATION'S GREAT AND AMERICORPS WONDERFUL.
BUT, UM, AROUND THOSE CITY SPORTS FIELDS.
MM-HMM,
THERE'S LIKE A, A LARGE EMPTY KIND OF A DIRT AREA.
I WAS WONDERING IF, IF, UM, THAT WAS CONSIDERED FOR TREES, IF, IF, UM, I'M GONNA LET CINDY HANDLE THIS QUESTION.
SO I THINK YOU'RE TALKING TO THE AREA THAT'S BETWEEN THE CONCESSION STANDS AND FIELD.
I BELIEVE IT'S FIELD THREE IN THE PARKING LOT.
WE HAVE LOOKED AT THAT AREA TO PLANT TREES AND WE DO HAVE A PLAN, IT'S JUST ABOUT IRRIGATION AND THAT SOIL IS LIME TREATED, SO WE HAVE TO REMOVE THE SOIL, MITIGATE IT WITH GOOD SOIL TO PLANT.
SO WE DO WANT TO, WE HAVE LAID OUT A DESIGN AND LOOKED AT IT.
UM, AND THAT AREA IS ALSO MASTER PLAN FOR THE PARK TO HAVE OTHER THINGS WITHIN IT.
SO WE'VE LOOKED AT IT, LEAVING ROOM FOR THOSE ITEMS, BUT IT'S ON THE SCHEDULE.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK RELIEF KNOWS IS ON THE TOP OF MY LIST BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A HEAT ISLAND OUT AT THOSE SPORTS FIELDS.
WE'RE GONNA TRY AND MAKE IT HAPPEN.
WE JUST HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO REMOVE THAT SOIL BECAUSE THE COST IS, IS HIGH.
AND, UH, JUST YOU BROUGHT UP THE HEAT ISLAND.
SO I WAS OUT THERE A FEW WEEKS AGO FOR SATURDAY AFTERNOON GAMES AND IT WAS QUITE HOT BETWEEN THE FIELDS TOO.
IS THERE SOME CONSIDERATION FOR TREES BETWEEN THOSE FIELDS? LIKE TWO AND THREE POTENTIALLY? YES.
WE'VE LOOKED AT THAT AS WELL ON THOSE ISLANDS.
IT'S JUST, LIKE I SAID, IT'S, UM, IT WOULD BE PHASED BECAUSE THE COST OF THE SOIL AMENDMENT THAT WE HAVE TO DO REGARDLESS OF THE IRRIGATION.
'CAUSE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT DOING, YOU KNOW, WHETHER WE HAVE TO DO WATERING PLANS AND USE WATERING BAGS.
BUT BECAUSE OF THE LINE TREATMENT, THAT SOIL IS UN IMPLANTABLE THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW.
SO UNFORTUNATELY WE JUST CAN'T GO, LIKE IN MOST OTHER PARKS, EVEN IF YOU'RE DEALING WITH ADOBE CLAY SOIL, WE CAN GO PLANT.
IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE DIFFICULT, BUT WE CAN PLANT THAT SITE.
THEY TREATED THE SOIL ALL THE WAY ACROSS.
UM, AND RELIEF DID HAVE IT TESTED AT ONE POINT BECAUSE WE DID TRY, WHEN THEY BROUGHT IT TO THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE BEFORE, BECAUSE IT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST FIRST PARKS I THINK WE LOOKED AT OUTSIDE OF WISEMAN TO PLANT, IT'S JUST BEEN COST PROHIBITIVE BECAUSE OF THE, THE COST TO REMOVE THE SOIL.
I THINK THE LAST TIME WE LOOKED AT JUST TO PLANT ALONG THAT BIG AREA YOU FIRST DESCRIBED, IT'S CLOSE TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS JUST TO REMOVE THE SOIL.
SO IT'S JUST, WE'VE GOTTA FIND THE FUNDING.
THAT TREE LITTER IS NOT A CONCERN FOR, FOR THOSE FIELDS OR IS THAT ALL, IS THAT A FACTOR? I BELIEVE, I THINK ARE A CONCERN AND THE USER GROUPS DO HAVE SOME THOUGHTS, BUT WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN OUT THERE AND WE'VE SEEN USER GROUPS AND SOME OF THE COMMENTS THEY'VE GIVEN BACK TO US IS THAT THEY LIKE SOME TREES.
UM, BECAUSE IT'S JUST SO HOT WHEN IT IS HOT AND THEY'RE ON THE FIELD.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.
WE JUST DON'T HAVE A HUNDRED PERCENT PLAN.
THAT'S WHY THE FINGER ISLANDS ARE GOING FIRST.
'CAUSE WE CAN GET IRRIGATION THERE AND THEN WE'RE GONNA TRY AND FIGURE OUT THE FUNDING FOR THE REST.
IT IS NUMBER ONE ON MY WISHLIST AND RELIEF IS REALLY AWARE OF THIS AS I'M LOOKING AT THEM.
THEY KNOW I, I BRING IT UP EVERY TIME.
SO YES, IT'S, WE'RE GONNA MAKE IT HAPPEN.
I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO IT ALL IN ONE GO.
AS A QUICK FOLLOW UP THERE, CINDY, CAN YOU JUST GIVE THE 10,000 FOOT VIEW OF HOW THESE PROJECTS START AND HOW WE WORK WITH RELIEF? KIND OF TO ROGER'S POINT ABOUT CITY CAPACITY, YOU KNOW, HOW HOW IS THIS INITIATED BY
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THE CITY AND THEN HOW DO WE ENGAGE RELIEF FOR CHOOSING THESE AREAS AND THAT KIND OF THING? YEAH, I THINK ORIGINALLY WHEN WE FIRST STARTED LOOKING AT PLANTING, WE LOOKED AT OUR PARKS AND WE WANTED TO SEE MAYBE WHERE WE COULD PUT TREES IN EASILY WHERE THERE WAS AN EXISTING IRRIGATION AND THERE WAS SPACE FOR THEM.AND THAT'S HOW WE REALLY STARTED WAS, YOU KNOW, DO THE LOWEST HANGING FRUIT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
DO SOMETHING EASY, GET TREES IN THE GROUND BECAUSE THEN YOU HAVE MOMENTUM.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE FIRST LOOKED AT.
AND THEN WE STARTED LOOKING AT PARKS AND AREAS THAT DON'T, YOU KNOW, THERE'S HEAT ISLANDS AND NEIGHBORHOODS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY PCSF CAME UP.
PE THE COMMUNITY SPORTS FIELDS TOO, FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW THE ACRONYM, UM, THAT CAME UP.
AND THEN JUST AREAS IN SOME PARKS THAT HAD NO TREES.
ANNAS MEADOWS WAS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THIS THAT WAS A, A SMALLER NEIGHBORHOOD PARK BUT REALLY HAD NO TREES AND WE ONLY PLANTED A FEW BECAUSE THERE'S A, A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL SIZE PLAYGROUND FOR THAT SIZE OF A PARK THERE.
UM, BUT THAT'S KIND OF HOW IT COMES UP.
WE GO TALK ABOUT WHAT PARKS MAY NEED TREES, AND THEN REALLY IF WE'LL GO OUT AND SCOUT IT TO SEE WHAT'S DOABLE, WE LOOK AT WHAT IRRIGATION IS AVAILABLE.
IS IT EASY TO WATER IF WE CAN'T GET IRRIGATION THERE, IF WE'RE TO USE BAGS OR THE DONUTS OR ANY OTHER METHOD.
AND SOMETIMES WE'VE COME UP AGAINST WALLS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LIKE, OH, WE'D LOVE TO PLANT TREES THERE, BUT THERE'S NO EASY WAY TO WATER THOSE TREES.
LIKE THERE'S JUST NO EASY WAY.
IT DOESN'T MEAN WE WON'T CROSS THAT, THAT MOUNTAIN, IT'S JUST THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO THE THINGS THAT ARE EASIER TO PLAN OUT AND THEN SLOTTING IN THE ONES THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT AS WE ACCOMPLISH SOME OF THE OTHER PLANTING PLANS.
UM, BEFORE I MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE PRESENTATION, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM COMMITTEE MEMBERS? OKAY.
WELL THEN I WILL ASK, UH, IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WANNA MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS PRESENTATION, YOU CAN BRING A SPEAKER CARD, UH, UP TO THE CLERK AND I WILL ASK THE CLERK, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM PRIOR TO THE MEETING? NO.
WELL SEEING NO ONE RUSHING UP TO GIVE PUBLIC COMMENT NOW, UH, I THINK WE CAN MOVE PAST THE PRESENTATION.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
THE PRESENTATION PORTION OF OUR MEETING AND GO TO APPROVAL OF MINUTES.SO WE WILL BE APPROVING MINUTES FOR THE MEETING OF OCTOBER 16TH, 2024.
DO WE HAVE ANY CHANGES OR COMMENTS ON MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING? SEEING NONE, I WILL ASK OUR CLERK, UH, FOR US TO DO APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.
AND I BELIEVE WE DON'T HAVE TO DO ROLL CALL, RIGHT? CORRECT.
YEAH, IF THERE'S NO CHANGES, THEN THEY'RE DEEMED AS APPROVED.
THEN IT LOOKS LIKE THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED.
[PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION]
UH, WE'LL CLOSE APPROVAL OF MINUTES AND GO TO PUBLIC HEARINGS IN MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION.UH, THE FIRST ITEM WE HAVE IS PROVIDING FEEDBACK TO STAFF ON THE SUITABILITY OF ALTERNATIVE STREET TREE SPECIES TO INFORM A RELIEF SPONSORED REPLACEMENT PROJECT TO INCLUDE PLANTING OF APPROXIMATELY 50 STREET TREES.
AND I SEE HEATHER HEINZ JOINING US HERE DIGITALLY, SO I GUESS I'LL PASS IT OFF TO HER IF THERE'S A, A PRESENTATION OR A LEAD UP HERE.
UM, COMMITTEE MEMBERS, UM, THANK YOU FOR, UM, THE FLEXIBILITY TO JOIN REMOTELY TODAY.
UM, SO BEFORE YOU, I DON'T HAVE A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION.
UM, SO JUST RECAPPING ON THE STAFF REPORT.
UM, AS, UM, CAROLINE, UH, REPRESENTED RELIEF, IT HAS A NUMBER OF PROJECTS GOING ON TO DO PLANTING AND TO, UM, INCREASE TREE CANOPY.
UM, ONE OF THE MOST, UM, IMMEDIATE ONES IS APPROXIMATELY 50 STREET TREES, UM, WHICH ARE OUTLINED IN YOUR ATTACHMENT B, UM, WHERE RELIEF AND COOL PETALUMA HAVE WORKED TO DO OUTREACH TO SPECIFIC PROPERTY OWNERS, UM, TO, UM, SOLICIT INTEREST FROM THOSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SEE PLANTING HAPPEN IN, UM, THE PLANTER STRIP IN FRONT OF THEIR PROPERTIES, UM, AND MAKE A COMMITMENT TO WATERING, UM, THOSE, THOSE TREES.
SO OBVIOUSLY THAT'S AN IMPORTANT, UM, POINT IN THE EQUATION IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS THE COMMITMENT AND THE AWARENESS TO WATER AS THEY'RE BEING ESTABLISHED.
UM, SO RELIEF HAS ASKED, UM, FOR A, UH, APPROVAL FOR STREET TREE SPECIES THAT ARE NOT FOUND ON OUR CURRENT, UM, APPROVED STREET TREE LIST.
UM, SO ATTACHMENT TWO, ATTACHMENT B, ATTACHMENT TWO, UM, ARE THOSE 50, UM, STREET TREES, UM, THAT ARE IN THE MOST IMMEDIATE TO BE PLANTED.
UM, ATTACHMENT ONE IS A LARGER LIST OF ALTERNATIVE STREET TREE SPECIES.
THAT RELIEF IS REQUESTING, UM, FEEDBACK TO, UM, EXPAND THE EXISTING
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STREET TREE LIST, UM, FOR OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE UP NEXT.SO, UM, WHAT WE ARE HERE BEFORE YOU IS, UM, TO ASK FOR FEEDBACK WHETHER THESE ARE APPROPRIATE ALTERNATIVE SPECIES, UM, TO ALLOW AS STREET TREE PLANTING WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS WORKING ON AN UPDATED STREET TREE LIST.
AND SO THESE ALTERNATIVES WOULD BE USED IN THE INTERIM, UM, UNTIL THAT LIST, UM, IS, UM, CREATED AND ULTIMATELY ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
I WILL NOTE THAT IN THE EXISTING APPROVED STREET TREE LIST, THERE IS REFERENCE TO OTHER TREES, UM, WITH A REFERENCE THAT OTHER TREES CAN BE, UM, PERMITTED.
UM, AND REFERENCING, UM, THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UM, AS, AS A, AS A RESOURCE.
SO THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE HERE TODAY, UH, TO SEEK FEEDBACK FROM THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON THESE TWO LISTS, UM, AND THE STREET TREE SUGGESTIONS THAT ARE IN THEM.
SO I AM HERE TO, UM, ANSWER QUESTIONS AS I MIGHT BE ABLE TO MORE ABOUT THE PROCESS AND CAROLINE WITH RELIEF IS, UM, THEY'RE IN PERSON TO ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHY THEY CHOSE SPECIFIC, UM, SPECIFIC SPECIES, UM, AND WHY THE, THE NEED TO EXPAND THE EXISTING STREET TREE LIST AT THIS TIME.
AND WITH THAT, THAT'S, UM, THE RECAP OF THE ITEMS BEFORE YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE CONTEXT, HEATHER.
UH, AND BEFORE WE MOVE INTO OUR COMMITTEE, DOES RELIEF WANT TO GIVE ANY CONTEXT OR ANY WORDS ABOUT THE CHOICE FOR THE 50 TREE PROJECT? JUST ANYTHING ABOUT METHODOLOGY OR ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SHARE, UH, AS WE REVIEW THAT LIST OF THE 50 REPLACEMENT TREES SPECIFICALLY? UM, SO WHEN RELIEF WAS CHOOSING THEIR STREET TREE LISTS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE CHOSE DIFFERENT SPECIES BECAUSE OF WIRES AND ALSO BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT RESIDENCES OR HAVE DIFFERENT SIZED AND SHAPED, YOU KNOW, YARDS AND TO SEE WHAT FITS.
BUT IN TERMS OF THE STREET TREES, WE CHOSE, UH, ONES THAT WE THOUGHT WOULD, UM, WORK WELL IN THE STRIPS AND ALSO BE PROVIDING HABITAT VALUE.
UM, SO, UM, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST, UH, POLLEN LIKE A CREPE MYRTLE, BUT
UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, THE ONE, SOME OF THE ONES WE CHOSE ARE NARROW, UM, AND SOME ARE LIKE THE OPSIS AND THE CHPA, THOSE ARE THE, YOU KNOW, THE OPSIS IS FROM SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.
UM, BUT THE FLOWERS ARE LOVED BY HUMMINGBIRDS AND ALSO THEY ARE UM, UH, UM, A NECTAR SOURCE FOR THE, UM, UH, I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE BUTTERFLY THAT MIGRATES
AND UM, YOU KNOW, THE ALPA, UH, IS NOT A NATIVE TREE, BUT IT IS ACROSS BETWEEN THE NATIVE OPSIS AND THE NON-NATIVE, UM, CATALPA.
AND IT DOES PROVIDE THE SAME BENEFITS, UM, AS THE OPSIS, BUT WE CHOSE BOTH OF THEM TO SEE WHICH ONES WOULD WORK BETTER IN CLAY, WHICH ONES WOULD WORK BETTER, MAYBE ON THE WEST SIDE AND THE NOT CLAY.
SO WE'RE CHOOSING A VARIETY OF TREES TO SEE, UM, UH, WHICH WE THINK WILL BE GREAT AND TO SEE HOW THEY DO.
AND I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT, UM, BENEFIT TO PLANT THESE DIFFERENT VARIETY OF TREES AND SEE HOW THEY DO AND UM, AND SEE IF WE CAN PROVIDE NATIVE CANOPY WITHIN OUR URBAN SETTINGS ON OUR STREETS.
AND IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL IF WE COULD, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ON DIFFERENT ONES.
I THINK COMMITTEE MEMBERS MIGHT, BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT INITIAL CONTEXT.
UH, AND OBVIOUSLY THIS IS GONNA BLEED INTO OUR NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS ALL ABOUT STREET TREES AND OUR STREET TREE AD HOC.
SO I THINK THIS IS A GREAT TIME TO DISCUSS, UH, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, STARTING WITH WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US, WE HAVE THESE 50 REPLACEMENT TREES.
UH, I NOTICED THERE IS A LOT OF OVERLAP WITH WHAT RELEASE BROUGHT FORWARD BOTH IN THESE 50 TREES AND THEN FURTHER WITH THE STREET TREE KIND OF BROAD RECOMMENDATIONS.
THERE'S OVERLAP WITH THE DRAFT WE'VE SEEN FROM OUR AD HOC COMMITTEE.
UH, SO I WANNA POINT OUT THAT I THINK THE ONLY TWO DIFFERENCES I FOUND, JUST SO THIS COMMITTEE KNOWS, THERE ARE SOME WILLOWS LISTED ON THIS 50 TREE LIST AND A SANTA CRUZ IRONWOOD THAT IS NOT PRESENT ON OUR STREET
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TREE AD HOC LIST.UH, SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT WHERE SOME OF THAT OVERLAP IS, BUT I WILL OPEN IT UP TO THE COMMITTEE FOR ANY QUESTIONS, EITHER TO STAFF OR TO RELIEF, UH, ABOUT THESE 50 REPLACEMENT TREES.
UM, UH, SO I I DO, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I LOVE EVERY ONE OF THESE TREES ON THE LIST.
YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THEY'RE ALL VERY IMPORTANT.
THEY'RE ALL GREAT HABITAT SPECIES OR HABITAT PROVIDERS.
UM, BUT, UM, A LOT OF THESE TREES THAT, THAT ARE ON THIS, ON, ON YOUR LIST THAT YOU SENT US AND ALSO ON THIS 50 TREE LIST HERE, UM, WERE SPECIFICALLY TREES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AT LENGTH IN OUR, UH, STREET TREE AD HOC.
UM, AND I'LL JUST, UM, AND TO DARREN'S COMMENT, THE CATALINA IRONWOOD, IT IS ON OUR, ON OUR NEW LIST, WE HAVE ADDED THAT.
SO, UM, THERE WAS, THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT TOO, BUT, UM, I LOVE THEM SO THEY'RE ON THERE
UM, BUT, UH, SO I'LL JUST GO DOWN QUICKLY.
THE, UH, WELL I'LL FOR THE, FOR THE LIST UP HERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, I LOVE THE CHILLIS OF THE, THE DESERT WILLOW, BUT UM, YOU KNOW, BEING A LANDSCAPE PROFESSIONAL, I'VE NEVER SEEN THOSE IN A STANDARD FORM.
UM, AND UM, I KNOW THERE ARE A COUPLE IN TOWN THAT EXIST ON B STREET.
THERE'S A COUPLE THAT ARE, THAT ARE NICE.
DID, DID MAY, MAY I TAKE HER COMMENT? MAY I, CINDY, IS THAT ALLOWED COMMENT FROM RELIEF FROM YEAH, FROM, YEAH.
SO, UM, IF YOU CAN COME TO THE DIOCESE, I'M GOING SORRY.
THANK YOU TO THE, TO THE PODIUM.
UM, I, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT WE PURCHASED MANY OPSIS AND THEY'RE ALL IN STANDARD FORM.
SO THE ONES THAT WE HAVE PURCHASED AND RESERVED FOR THE STREET TREES ARE IN STANDARD FORM.
THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
UM, AND SO THAT WAS MY ONLY COMMENT ON THESE 50 TREES HERE.
THEN, UM, UH, FOR THE CONSIDERATION FOR THE STREET TREE LIST, I'LL JUST GO DOWN.
UM, THE ACE PHYLA, UH, YOU KNOW, I'VE SEEN THOSE ALONG CREEKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THEY ARE HIGH WATER, UM, TREE MORE RIPARIAN.
UH, I HAVEN'T, WE DID TALK ABOUT IT.
WE DON'T FEEL LIKE IT'S A, IT'S AN APPROPRIATE STREET TREE.
UM, THE BOX ELDERS AGAIN, UM, HIGH WATER, UH, WE DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY'RE APPROPRIATE STREET TREES.
THE, UH, INCENSE, CEDAR IS JUST MUCH TOO LARGE TO CONSIDER AS A STREET TREE.
UH, WE'VE, WE'VE REMOVED REDWOOD FOR THAT REASON.
UM, OTUS RAY HARTMAN, UH, AGAIN, OTUS IS, IS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE, THAT WE FEEL IS A, IS AN APPROPRIATE STREET TREE.
IT'S A GREAT HABITAT PLANT, WE LOVE IT.
UM, BUT IT, IT, IT TENDS TO BE SHORT-LIVED.
AND, UM, UNLESS SOMEBODY'S, UH, DETERMINED TO TRAIN IT INTO A A, A STANDARD TREE, IT BECOMES A BUSH AND IT BLOCKS SIDEWALKS AND IT BLOCKS PARKING.
UM, THE, I DID MENTION THAT LY HARRISON, I'D LIKE, I'D LIKE OUR COMMITTEE TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION FOR OUR, OUR AMENDED STREET TREE LIST.
UH, THE TOYON AGAIN, UM, IS SOMETHING THAT A HOMEOWNER OR, UH, SOMEBODY'S GONNA HAVE TO BE DETERMINED TO TURN INTO A, A STANDARD.
UH, OTHERWISE IT'S GONNA BLOCK SIDEWALKS, IT'S GONNA BLOCK PARKING.
UM, IT'S NEVER GONNA CREATE SHADE.
UM, BUT I, YOU KNOW, I HAVE THEM IN MY OWN GARDEN AND I LOVE THEM, ESPECIALLY THE DAVIS GOLD.
UH, THE, UH, BLACK WALNUTS, AGAIN, I DON'T, WE DON'T FEEL ARE APPROPRIATE STREET TREES.
UM, YOU WOULDN'T WANNA PARK YOUR CAR UNDERNEATH ONE OF THOSE.
AND, UM, AND THEY ALSO CAN BE REALLY HARD TO PROPAGATE AND, UM, AND EVEN FIND THE, UM, COTTONWOODS, I MEAN, CINDY OR YOU ALL KNOW I LOVE COTTONWOODS AND I FOUGHT VERY HARD FOR THEM IN WISEMAN PARK.
AND NOW I SEE THEM IN IN OTHER PARKS, WHICH I'M VERY HAPPY ABOUT, BUT I JUST DON'T THINK THEY'RE AN APPROPRIATE STREET TREE.
UM, AND THEY DO TEND TO SEED AROUND A LOT.
AND, UM, THE LAST ONE WAS, OH, I JUST, I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THE CORCAS, UH, MOREHOUSE, WHICH, UM, I ONLY PUT ON HERE.
IT WAS JUST SORT OF ESOTERIC AND SEEMED REALLY INTERESTING, BUT I JUST WONDERED IF IT WAS SOMETHING THAT, UM, A WE TRIED TO KEEP OUR STREET TREE LISTS TO TREES THAT WE KNOW ARE GONNA DO WELL IN, IN OUR ENVIRONMENT.
SO NOT HAVING SEEN IT, I DON'T KNOW THAT.
UM, BUT I, I THINK THAT'S A VERY INTERESTING TREE.
UM, BUT EVEN IF YOU COULD FIND IT IN, UM, IN CULTIVATION AND THEN, UM, AND THEN CIX THERE, THE,
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THE, UH, WILLOWS, I MEAN, I, YOU NOBODY WANTS THAT IN A, IN A MEDIAN STRIP 'CAUSE IT'S JUST GONNA CREATE A THICKET AND UM, UH, IT'S JUST NOT APPROPRIATE.SO, UM, AND THOSE ARE ALL MY COMMENTS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE DETAILED FEEDBACK.
YEAH, REGARDING THE 50 TREES, UM, THIS IS, IT'S JUST A LITTLE CONFUSING 'CAUSE YOU HAVE SOME LATIN NAMES AND SOME COMMON NAMES, SO IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE IT CONSISTENT.
UM, ACTUALLY I THINK EXCEPT FOR THE, UM, ALPA, THEY, THEY ARE, ALL OF THOSE ARE ON OUR, THE NEW LIST OF THE CATALINA AND THE PRUNUS, ALYSSA FOLIA.
UM, SO I THINK THOSE WOULD ALL BE GREAT.
UM, BUT AS HOWARD'S ALREADY GONE OVER A LOT OF THOSE OTHER TREES THAT ARE ON YOUR, UM, HOPEFUL LIST, THOSE ARE ALL, A LOT OF THOSE ARE HIGH WATER USERS.
UM, SO THOSE WOULD NOT BE, UM, APPROPRIATE.
THE TO AND THE
UM, BUT IT IS JUST GONNA BE REALLY DIFFICULT TO TURN THOSE INTO TREES AS MUCH AS YOU MIGHT WANT TO.
UM, AND THE CLEC COULD, SEARU ACTUALLY IS ON THE, STILL ON THE LIST.
UM, ALTHOUGH AS HOWARD POINTED OUT, THEY GET REALLY HUGE, WE NEVER TOOK IT OFF THE LIST.
I'VE ONLY, THERE'S ONLY ONE, UM, GROW THAT I CAN FIND GROWING HERE, WHICH IS NEXT TO THE LIBRARY AND IT DOESN'T LOOK VERY HAPPY.
IT'S HAD A LOT OF ITS BRANCHES REMOVED.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE WHAT, HOW GOOD A CHOICE IT WOULD BE GOING FORWARD FORWARD.
UM, SO YEAH, I GUESS THAT'S ARE ALL MY COMMENTS.
AND I'M THINKING AS WE'RE DEALING WITH, UH, LIKE YOU SAID, SOME SCIENTIFIC NAMES AND THINGS LIKE THAT MIGHT HELP TO SUBMIT, UH, SOME WRITTEN FEEDBACK AS FOLLOW UP TO STAFF TOO, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
'CAUSE I THINK IT COULD JUST MAKE SURE WE KINDA GET THAT TRACKED.
UM, AND JUST TO CONFIRM, AND HOWARD YOU MIGHT KNOW THIS, OUR WILLOWS ON OUR CURRENT, UH, AD HOC DRAFT LIST, THEY ARE NOT, AND THEY'RE CURRENTLY NOT ALLOWED BY THIS.
THEY'RE NOT ON THE CURRENT LIST EITHER.
I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.
UM, FOR ANYONE ELSE TO OFFER FEEDBACK RECOMMENDATIONS ON BOTH THE 50 TREE REPLACEMENT LIST AND THEN I GUESS ALSO THE PROPOSED LIST PUT FORTH BY RELIEF.
I HAVE JUST A COUPLE COMMENTS, BUT I WANTED TO CLARIFY WHAT YOU GUYS ARE TALKING.
UM, AS TREE SPECIALISTS ON THE TREE AD HOC WAYNE CHUCK ABOUT WILLOWS.
ARE YOU ALSO TALKING ABOUT LIKE A WEEPING WILLOW THAT HAS A PROPER TRUNK? YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BRUSH KIND OF WILLOW THAT WE SEE AROUND THE CREEKS? THE WEEPING WILLOW IS A, IS AN EXOTIC NON-NATIVE.
THE ONES THAT ARE ON ON RELIEF LIST ARE THE NATIVE ONES THAT YOU SEE IN THE CREEKS.
SO I ONLY HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.
THIS REALLY ISN'T MY AREA OF EXPERTISE.
UM, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE US TO MAYBE FIND ROOM TO THINK ABOUT, UM, THAT NOT ALL STREETS ARE EXACTLY THE SAME AND THAT SOMETIMES YOU HAVE STREETS THAT HAVE LIKE LITTLE CUL-DE-SACS OR, UM, FRONTAGE ISLANDS SORT OF ARE LIKE SIDE STREETS LIKE YOU SEE IN CORDA MADERA LIKE YOU SEE IN SAN FRANCISCO WHERE IT'S REALLY NOT, UM, A TRADITIONAL, UM, MEDIAN OR CURBSIDE LITTLE WHERE PLANTER, UM, AND THE CONSTRAINTS OR THE IMMEDIATE ENVIRONMENT ARE MUCH DIFFERENT, UM, THAN WHAT YOU MIGHT SEE ON, UM, A MORE CONVENTIONAL STREET.
HOPEFULLY YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M GETTING AT HERE.
UM, NOT ALL WELLS ARE THE SAME.
SO I'D LIKE US TO MAYBE THINK ABOUT, UM, INSTEAD OF BEING VERY BLACK AND WHITE AND WHAT STREET, WHAT TREES CAN GO NEXT TO A STREET, MAYBE OFFER UP SOME CONDITIONS.
AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE I LOVE SYCAMORE TREES.
HEY, THEY'RE EXCELLENT CANOPY AND THERE ARE WAYS TO PRUNE THEM.
IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A SYCAMORE, IT'S GONNA COST YOU MONEY.
JUST LIKE IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A POOL, IT'S GONNA COST YOU MONEY TO MAINTAIN THAT POOL.
SO LET'S NOT SAY NO SYCAMORES BECAUSE OF TREE WIRES.
LET'S THINK ABOUT WHERE SYCAMORES CAN WORK.
AND I KNOW THAT THEY ARE ON THE LIST, BUT I JUST WOULD LIKE TO FREE UP OUR THINKING ABOUT WHAT'S APPROPRIATE WHERE.
AND ALONG THAT LINE, I REALLY DO LIKE FRUIT TREES.
I KNOW THAT THE FALLEN FRUIT CAN BE A NUISANCE FOR PESTS AND SOME CAN BE A PROBLEM FOR CARS.
BUT I'D LIKE US TO MAYBE CARVE OUT, I'VE GOT, UM, A STREET TREE THAT IS A PLUM AND IT IS LOVED BY MY NEIGHBORS.
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MY NEIGHBORS COME BY AND EAT IT, PICK IT.BUT UNDER THE RULES HERE, THAT WOULD BE A NO-NO.
AND I JUST WOULD LIKE US TO THINK A LITTLE BIT MORE IN TERMS OF THE BENEFITS OF TREES AND WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A RESPONSIBLE TREE OWNER.
NOT JUST FOR YOU AND YOUR TREE AND YOUR LOT, BUT FOR YOUR NEIGHBORS, FOR THE COMMUNITY, AND NOT JUST PUT US ALL IN A BOX OF WHAT WE CAN'T DO.
SO, UM, AND THEN I WOULD JUST ADD THAT I WONDER, THIS IS A GOOD QUESTION FOR HOWARD.
WONDER THE WHETHER THE LONDON PLANE TREE MIGHT BE A GOOD OPTION FOR US.
THE LONDON PLANE IS A SYCAMORE, YOU CALL IT? THE LONDON PLANE IS A SYCAMORE.
YEAH, IT'S JUST, IT'S NOT A NATIVE.
SO WHAT WE'RE ADDING THE, AND IT'S BEEN ON THE CITY'S TREE LIST, THE LONDON PLANE TREE, BUT WE'RE ADDING THE NATIVE SYCAMORE ONTO OUR TREE LIST.
AND LIKE I SAID, SOME OF THIS SPILLS OVER IMMEDIATELY INTO THE AD HOCS, WHAT THEY'RE GONNA BE DISCUSSING.
I JUST WANNA CONFIRM WITH STAFF IN TERMS OF OUR GUIDANCE.
UH, I THINK EVERYBODY'S GIVEN USEFUL FEEDBACK SO FAR.
WE'RE LOOKING JUST FOR GUIDANCE ON THIS 50 TREE PROJECT AND THEN THE RELIEF PROPOSED LIST.
IS THAT MORE FOR US TO TAKE AS PART OF OUR DISCUSSION TODAY ABOUT STREET TREES WITH OUR AD HOC OR ARE YOU LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK, UH, ON THAT RELIEF KIND OF GENERAL STREET TREE LIST AS WELL? WELL, IT'S KIND OF TWO PRIORITIES.
SO IN THE IMMEDIATE, THE 50, UM, BECAUSE RELIEF WANTS TO GO OUT AND PLANT THOSE WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, UM, THE LARGER LIST REALLY IS TO, UM, REMOVE CHALLENGES FROM RELIEF STARTING IN ON THEIR NEXT PROJECTS.
UM, SO BY, BY APPROVING, UM, THE LONGER LIST, MAYBE WITH SOME COMING OUT OF THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, AS APPROPRIATE ALTERNATIVE SPECIES, UM, THAT WOULD ALLOW RELIEF TO WITHOUT HAVING TO COME BACK AND ASK APPROVAL OF THOSE TREES IN, IN ADDITIONAL PROJECTS THAT THEY HAVE IN THE PIPELINE.
AND, AND AS WE'VE GOT, UH, AN AD HOC WHO'S WORKING ON KIND OF A CITY APPROVED LIST UPDATE, DO WE ENVISION THEN SEQUENTIALLY YOUR AIM IS TO KIND GET A RELIEF EXPANDED LIST APPROVED AND ALMOST BEFORE TO FILL THE GAP BETWEEN WE GET OUR NEW LIST CORRECT.
IT JUST IN THE INTERIM, UNTIL THAT NEW LIST IS COMPLETED AND ADOPTED, UM, THIS WOULD BE, WOULD GIVE STAFF, UH, A LIST OF ALTERNATIVES, UM, THAT THE, THAT THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE HAS PROVIDED FEEDBACK AS APPROPRIATE.
SO WE COULD USE THOSE, UM, TO APPROVE STREET TREES, UH, WITH THOSE SPECIES AS WELL AS THE EXISTING LIST INTEL.
IT'S REPLACED BY THE NEWLY ADOPTED LIST.
SO THANK YOU FOR OUR PREVIOUS COMMITTEE MEMBERS FOR GIVING FEEDBACK ON BOTH, BECAUSE THEY'RE BOTH GONNA BE IMPORTANT, THIS 50 TREE REPLACEMENT.
AND THEN ALSO KIND OF THIS INTERIM LIST RELIEF IS PROPOSING BEFORE OUR APPROVED LIST IS COMPLETED.
I'LL MOVE TO THIS SIDE OF THE COMMITTEE.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, CLARIFICATIONS ON EITHER THE 50 TREES OR THEIR LISTS IN GENERAL? UM, UM, MY SENSE IS I TEND TO, UH, PREFER A LARGER LIST WITH EVALUATIONS BECAUSE I THINK YOU, YOU DON'T PLANT THESE TREES ANYWHERE, ANY PLACE.
IT HAS TO GO THROUGH ANOTHER EVALUATION OF SOILS, SIZE OF SPACE, CONDITIONS ADJACENT.
SO THAT NARROWS THE LIST DOWN.
UH, BUT IT TAKES AN EXPERT TO DO THAT.
IT'S NOT A, ANY TREE CAN GO ANY PLACE.
SO I JUST THINK THERE OUGHT TO BE SOME CONDITIONS OF HOW TO EVALUATE WHICH TREE IS THE RIGHT TREE FOR WHICH CON CONDITION.
UM, AND WHO DOES THAT? AND I THINK THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
OBVIOUSLY WE'RE REVIEWING IT HERE AS VOLUNTEER EXPERTISE FOR THE CITY AS CINDY OR MAYBE HEATHER.
UH, WHAT IS THE CITY'S INPUT WHEN A PROJECT LIKE THIS COMES FORWARD IN TERMS OF HELPING WITH TREE SELECTION, KIND OF WORKING WITH RELIEF ASIDE FROM US ON TREE COMMITTEE? UM, UM, I MEAN GENERALLY SPEAKING, RELIEF COMES WITH A LOT OF EXPERTISE.
UM, UM, AND, AND THOUGHTFUL ANALYSIS BEFORE, UM, BEFORE MOVING FORWARD WITH THEIR PROPOSALS.
UM, IN TERMS OF CURRENTLY WITH THE APPROVED STREET TREE LIST, I BELIEVE THERE IS SOMETHING THAT SAYS, UM, KIND OF SIMILAR TO WHAT RELIEF HAS PROPOSED IN THEIR LARGER LIST.
IT TALKS ABOUT HOW BIG THEY GET AND I BELIEVE IF I, I DON'T HAVE IT UP IN FRONT OF ME, BUT I BELIEVE THE EXISTING STREET TREE LIST, UM, DOESN'T IT HAVE SOME PARAMETERS ON LIKE THE SPACE YOU'RE WORKING WITH THAT NEEDED FOUR FEET, FIVE FEET, WHATEVER YOUR,
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UM, PLANTER STRIP IS OR YOUR TREE, WELL, ANYONE KNOW THAT OFF THE TOP? SO THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE LOOKED AT, ROGER, JUST IN TERMS OF ARE THESE APPROPRIATE, UM, I SUPPOSE WE COULD, UM, WE DO HAVE, UM, AN ARBORIST UNDER CONTRACT THAT COULD LOOK AT APPLICATIONS FOR, UM, FOR ENCROACHMENT PERMITS, UM, TO JUST GIVE A QUICK LOOK TO MAKE SURE WHAT IS PROPOSED WOULD BE APPROPRIATE GIVEN THE SPACE OR THE WIRES OR THOSE OTHER KIND OF, UM, THINGS YOU'RE DEALING WITH WITH STREET TREES.YEAH, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
I THINK COMING TO US IS HONESTLY A STEP THAT IT SOUNDS LIKE WE DON'T TECHNICALLY NEED TO TAKE.
THAT'S A GREAT CHANCE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE INPUT INTO THE PROCESS.
UH, I MYSELF DIDN'T DO SITE SPECIFIC RECONNAISSANCE ON ALL THESE SITES.
UM, SO I HEAR WHAT ROGER'S SAYING ABOUT REALLY NEEDING TO UNDERSTAND THE SITE AND THE APPROPRIATENESS, KNOWING THAT RELIEF HAS DONE A LOT OF THAT LEGWORK AS WELL AND REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT IT AS WELL.
UM, ALSO IT SEEMS LIKE, YOU KNOW, ON, ON THIS LIST THERE'S A, THERE'S NOTES OR CONDITIONS OF, YOU KNOW, OR BE AWARE OF CERTAIN THINGS WITH THIS SPECIES.
SEEMS LIKE THERE OUGHT TO BE SOME THAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE A THE, UH, AL ALDER DOES WELL IN WET SOILS, BUT IT ALSO HAS OTHER PROBLEMS IN OTHER CONDITIONS.
UH, SOMEHOW IT OUGHT TO, THERE OUGHT TO BE A WAY OF NARROWING DOWN WHERE THE, THE APPROPRIATE USE MIGHT BE BEST OR, OR NOT THE BEST.
AND CHAIR, IF I MAY, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT THE AD HOC, UM, IS ALREADY CONSIDERING IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT FOR THE APPROVED STREET TREE LIST.
IS IT, IS IT, I I'M NOT A, I'M NOT UP TO DATE ON UM, EXACTLY THE SHAPE THAT THAT IS TAKING, BUT WHETHER YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT JUST ADDING SPECIES TO THE APPROVED STREET TREE LIST TAKING OUT SPECIES OR WHETHER YOU'RE THINKING OF IT AS KIND OF CHANGING THE FORMAT TO HAVE MORE OF THAT INFORMATION IN THE, THE TABLE.
UM, LIKE UNIQUE CONSIDERATIONS, UM, MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT OF THE SPACE, THAT KIND OF STUFF FOR STREET TREES.
YEAH, BECAUSE THE LIST WE'RE LOOKING AT FROM RELIEF, THIS WOULD JUST BE FOR THEIR USE.
THIS IS NOT A CITY APPROVED LIST THAT ANYONE ELSE IS GONNA SEE OR NECESSARILY HAVE PURVIEW TO USE.
UM, IS THERE, I GUESS I WOULD ASK THE, THE, THE COMMITTEE, UH, WE COULD DO IT EITHER WAY.
I SUPPOSE WE COULD SAY THIS IS ONLY FOR RELIEF TO USE, OR WE COULD SAY, HEY, WE THINK THESE ARE ALL GOOD ADDITIONS TO THE STREET TREE LIST.
AND SO IN THE INTERIM UNTIL THE REVISED, UM, STREET TREE LIST IS ADOPTED, THIS COULD BE A LIST THAT IS AN ADDITION TO, OR AN ADDENDUM TO.
AND THE ONLY REASON I BRING THAT UP IS THEN FORMAT, UM, AND STYLE DOES BECOME AN ISSUE AND WHO'S GONNA USE THE TABLE? WE HAVE TO START THINKING WHAT INFORMATION SHOULD BE INCLUDED.
WHEREAS IF IT'S JUST FOR RELIEF TO HAVE THEIR PROJECTS BE MORE FLEXIBLE UNTIL OUR APPROVED LIST, THEN IT'S MORE ABOUT SPECIES, YOU KNOW, APPROPRIATE PALATE, NOT NECESSARILY DOES THE TABLE HAVE EVERYTHING ANY USER MIGHT NEED.
UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING, WELL, THAT'S THE MOST IMMEDIATE NEED.
UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT BROUGHT US HERE TODAY IS BECAUSE OF, UM, RELIEF PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING FAST AND FURIOUS AND WANTING TO, YOU KNOW, KEEP, KEEP THE, THE PROGRESS MOVING AND UTILIZE THE GREAT VOLUNTEERS THAT ARE HERE FROM AMERICORPS AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.
HOWARD? OH YEAH, I WOULD SAY, CAN WE BRING THAT LIST UP AGAIN, THE 50 TREES PLEASE.
AND I THINK TO ADDRESS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, SPECIFICALLY SINCE THAT SEEMS TO BE THE, THE CASE, THE TASK AT HAND, UM, AND, AND WHAT I SAID BEFORE, UM, YOU KNOW, I'LL STILL, I'LL STILL STAND BY, UM, MY COMMENTS ON, ON THE, UH, TOYON AND ON THE OTUS.
UM, I'M, I'M MORE WILLING TO CONSIDER THE DESERT WILLOW BECAUSE I LOVE THAT TREE.
AND SO IF YOU CAN FIND IT, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M VERY HAPPY TO HEAR THAT NEWS.
UM, BUT UM, AND SO I WOULD, I WOULD BE INCLINED TO APPROVE THIS OUTRIGHT EXCEPT FOR THOSE THE, EXCEPT FOR THE OTUS AND THE TOYON AND I WOULD SUGGEST DESERT WILLOW OR THE PRUNUS LEONE, UM, THE PRUNUS, UM, THE, UM, CATALINA CHERRY AS A GOOD, AS A GOOD SUBSTITUTION FOR EITHER OF THOSE.
UM, AND EVEN THE ALPA WOULD BE A GOOD SUBSTITUTION FOR EITHER OF THOSE.
'CAUSE YOU KNOW, THERE, THAT'S, THAT'S WE, WE SPECIFICALLY, I WANTED ALPA ON OUR LIST BECAUSE IT'S A GOOD UNDERWIRE TREE.
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YEAH, SO THAT WOULD BE, THOSE WOULD BE MY, THE, MY COMMENTS.AND SO I WOULD, I WOULD MOVE THAT WE, WE APPROVE THIS LIST, UM, BUT WE REMOVE THE CNO AND THE TOYON, UM, BECAUSE IT'S NOT GONNA GO ONTO THE, THE APPROVED STREET TREE LIST.
AND UM, BUT EVERYTHING ELSE ON THIS LIST IS, IS IS ALREADY ON THE LIST OR IS LIKELY TO MAKE IT ON THE LIST.
SO HOWARD, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE 50 OR TREE? THE 50.
BECAUSE THE C THE CNO AND THE, AND UM, 21 ARE ON THAT LIST.
SO I'M SAYING REMOVE THEM FROM THAT LIST, REPLACE THEM WITH THE, THE LEONI OR THE UM, PRUNUS OR THE DESERT WILLOW OR YOU KNOW, SOMETHING SIMILAR.
WELL AND I THINK, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT POINT AND EVERLY'S HIGHLIGHTING THAT WE HAVE THE 50 TREE REPLACEMENT AND WE HAVE THEIR INTERIM LIST BEFORE WE GET THE APPROVED LIST.
AND I THINK YOUR SPECIES FEEDBACK THEN SOUNDS LIKE IT WOULD BE APPLICABLE FOR BOTH.
IF THEY'RE ON THE 50 TREE AND THEY'RE ON THE BIGGER LIST, LET'S MOVE AWAY FROM THOSE SPECIES OPTIONS.
WELL, AND THEN, AND THEN EVERYTHING ON THIS 50 LIST IS, IS LIKELY TO MAKE IT ONTO OUR APPROVED STREET TREE LIST.
AND THERE'S, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO, UM, CONFLICT THERE.
AND, AND I, AND THANK YOU HEATHER, FOR BRINGING THIS UP BECAUSE I, I'VE BEEN, I'VE BEEN SAYING THAT WE NEED THIS EMERGENCY LIST FOR A WHILE EVEN THOUGH, UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE ALREADY PLANTED WESTERN SYCAMORE AND CHATAL ON CITY STREETS, BUT
I'M NOT SEEING ANO THIS OR TOYON ON THE, THE SHORTER LIST.
I DIDN'T SEE IT ON THE SHORTER LIST.
AND THAT'S WHY IT SOUNDS LIKE THOUGH THIS WOULD BE APPLICABLE TO BOTH.
AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD PLACE TO START IS IF WE HAVE CONSIDERATIONS ABOUT SPECIES ON EITHER THE BIGGER RELIEF LIST, UH, OR THE 50 TREE REPLACEMENT LIST.
I THINK ANY FEEDBACK ON SPECIES THAT LET'S JUST SAY WOULD BE REMOVED, I THINK THEY SHOULD BE APPLICABLE TO BOTH.
UH, AND SO IF IT'S NOT ON THE 50 TREE LIST, I WOULD ASSUME YOU WANNA APPLY IT TO THE RELIEF.
AND, AND MY APOLOGIES, I, I THINK I DID SEE THE DESERT WILLOW ON THERE, WHICH I'VE RETRACTED MY STATEMENT.
UM, SO IF, IF THE C AND O THIS OR THE TOYON ARE NOT ON THIS 50 LIST MM-HMM,
BUT, BUT YOU DON'T WANT IT ON THE BIGGER RELIEF LIST EITHER.
IT'S KIND OF THE INTERIM BEFORE WE GET YOUR APPROVED LIST.
WELL, I THINK WHEN THE, WHEN THE CITY APPROVES A STREET TREE LIST, THE CITY APPROVES A STREET TREE LIST AND WE HAVE A STREET TREE LIST, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT, THERE SHOULDN'T BE TWO LISTS, OTHERWISE IT'S, IT'S TOO CONFUSING.
SO THIS RELIEF LIST, AND THIS IS ONE OF THE ISSUES HEATHER SAID THAT WE CAN KIND OF GIVE FEEDBACK ON.
THERE'S THIS BIGGER RELIEF LIST AND IT'S CONFUSING 'CAUSE WE HAVE THREE, WE HAVE THE 50 TREE REPLACEMENT, WE HAVE A RELIEF RECOMMENDED KIND OF BROAD STREET TREE LIST AND THEN THE STREET TREE LIST YOUR AD HOCS BEEN WORKING ON.
AND SO HEATHER'S POINT WAS, LOOK THE INTERIM LIST FROM RELIEF, THAT LONGER LIST IS WHAT THEY WANNA GET APPROVED NOW BEFORE YOUR TEAM GIVES FEEDBACK AND WE GET THE OFFICIAL CITY LIST IN ORDER TO EXPEDITE THEIR PROJECTS BEFORE YOUR LIST IS ADOPTED.
OH, IS THAT, IS THAT, IS THAT THE CASE? I THOUGHT WE WERE JUST APPROVING AS 50, THESE 50 TREES.
WELL IT, IT, THE 50 IS THE ONES THAT ARE MOST PERTINENT BECAUSE RELIEF WANTS TO PLAN 'EM IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS.
SO, UM, THE LONGER LIST ARE ADDITIONAL STREET TREES THAT THEY'RE INTERESTED IN INCORPORATING INTO SOME OF THEIR PROJECTS MOVING FORWARD THAT ARE NOT CURRENTLY ON THE APPROVED STREET TREE LIST.
SO THE REQUEST IS CAN THESE BE ADDITIONAL STREET TREE OPTIONS IN THE INTERIM UNTIL THERE IS A NEW STREET TREE LIST.
AND I WOULD SAY, AND THEN ONCE THE NEW STREET TREE LIST WAS ADOPTED, THIS WOULD BASICALLY ALL, ANY THIS WOULD ALL SUNSET AND WE WOULD JUST HAVE THE NEWLY ADOPTED STREET TREE LIST.
WHICH IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT MOST OF THESE, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 TREES THAT WERE MENTIONED ARE ALL LIKELY TO BE ON THAT NEW APPROVED STREET TREE LIST ANYWAY.
AND OF NOTE, THE COMMITTEE COULD VERY MUCH SAY WE'RE OKAY WITH THIS INTERIM LIST BEING ADDITIVE TO THE APPROVED STREET TREE LIST EXCEPT FOUR.
AND THOSE, AND THOSE EIGHT TREES THAT YOU LISTED THERE, THERE WERE 11 I LISTED.
UM, OKAY, WELL WE SHOULD GO THROUGH WHICH ONES THOSE ARE IF WE GET TO THAT POINT.
BUT I, I MEAN, I, I WOULD SAY, I MEAN SOME OF THESE ARE JUST WHOLLY UNSUITABLE AS STREET TREES.
UM, BUT UM, SOME OF THEM JUST WON'T SURVIVE.
UH, AND UM, SOME OF THEM ARE JUST HIGH WATER TREES AND SO THEY SHOULDN'T, THEY SHOULDN'T BE ON A LIST FOR, FOR A DROUGHT, UH, PRONE CITY.
UM, SO I DON'T IF, YOU KNOW, IF RELIEF WANTED TO AMEND THE LIST, I WOULD, I WOULD, I WOULD ENCOURAGE THAT.
UM, AND UM, AND THEN I WOULD BE ALL IN FAVOR OF AN INTERIM LIST LIKE THIS.
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WE DO HAVE A MOTION, UM, HOWARD DID MOVE TO APPROVE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE TWO.ARE YOU PULLING BACK YOUR MOTION? I WAS, I WAS, I WAS, I WAS THINKING THAT WE WERE ONLY APPROVING THAT.
SORRY, I WAS, I I WAS CONFUSED.
WE WERE ONLY APPROVING THIS 50 TREE LIST, WHICH DOES NOT HAVE TOYON OR OTUS ON IT.
UM, AND THAT I WOULD APPROVE WHOLEHEARTEDLY.
UM, I WOULD NOT MOVE TO APPROVE THIS LONGER EXTENDED LIST.
SO ARE YOU, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR? ARE YOU RETRACTING WHAT YOU HAD? RE I'M RETRACTING.
NO, AND IT, AND IT IS A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING AND I APPRECIATE, UM, HOWARD, FOR YOU GETTING INTO THIS AND HEATHER FOR EXPLAINING.
'CAUSE WE ACTUALLY HAVE TWO ITEMS IN FRONT OF US.
THE AGENDA SAYS THE ONE WITH THIS 50 TREE LIST, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE WE ACTUALLY HAVE TWO ITEMS, WHICH IS THE 50 TREE REPLACEMENT LIST, AS WELL AS A LONGER RELIEF KIND OF INTERIM LIST.
UM, WHICH HOWARD YOU'VE GIVEN REALLY TANGIBLE FEEDBACK ON.
NOW, HEATHER, JUST TO FURTHER THAT THIS INTERIM LIST, WILL THIS GO BEFORE COUNSEL FOR APPROVAL? IF SO, WHAT IS OUR TIMEFRAME ON THAT? NO, THIS WOULD NOT GO BEFORE COUNSEL.
SO THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING, BUT W WE WOULD BASICALLY BE VOTING TO APPROVE THE LIST, UH, HERE AT TREATMENT.
IF IT IS, IF IT IS, UM, MORE CLEAR AND, AND, AND KIND OF A, A BETTER PROCESS, UM, WE COULD SEEK TO GET THE THUMBS UP THE, THE SUPPORT FOR THE LIST FOR THE 50 STREET TREES AND THEN WE COULD COME BACK, UM, IN THE NEW YEAR AND TALK ABOUT THE LONGER LIST IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE AD HOCS EFFORTS.
IF THAT, IF THAT SEEMS, IF THIS SEEMS, UM, LIKE MORE DISCUSSION ON THE, ON THE LONGER LIST IS WARRANTED IN, IN, IN THE, IN THE INTEREST OF TIME AND HAVING, UM, THESE FINE VOLUNTEERS HERE.
UM, THE, UM, UH, FOR THIS LONGER LIST, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE APPROVED BY THIS COMMITTEE OR CAN IT BE DONE OUTSIDE OF THIS COMMITTEE? AND THEN ARE, ARE YOU, HEATHER? I'M ASKING CAN YOU JUST SORT OF, CAN YOU MAKE THIS HAPPEN WITHOUT US, OR, I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING IT TO US, BUT CAN YOU DO IT WITHOUT US? I PREFER NOT TO
SO THE, THE, THE APPROVED STREET TREE LIST HAS A LIST OF TREES, BUT THEN IT INCLUDES KIND OF CATCHALL LANGUAGE THAT SAYS THE CITY CAN APPROVE SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF THIS.
UM, SO CAN, CAN, I'M GONNA, CAN I, I GUESS WHAT I'M ASKING, CAN I WORK WITH RELIEF OR DOES RELIEF AND WORK WITH ME AND AMEND THIS LIST AND TALK ABOUT THIS LIST? YEAH.
AND IF WE HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THIS COMMITTEE, UM, YES.
IF THEY TRUST ME AND RELIEF, WHICH I THINK THEY DO, THEN WE CAN MAKE THIS HAPPEN BEFORE THE, THE END, BEFORE THE NEW YEAR.
'CAUSE I, YES, I THINK WE NEED TO, THAT CAN, YEAH.
WELL, I THINK THEN LET'S KIND OF SPLIT THIS.
UH, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT KIND OF CLARIFYING OF SCOPE.
SO LET'S SPLIT THIS AND LET'S START FIRST, 'CAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE SOME FOLKS WHO HAVEN'T GIVEN, UH, NECESSARILY QUESTIONS OR RECOMMENDATIONS.
LET'S START FIRST WITH THIS LIST OF 50.
LET'S SEE IF WE HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THAT PROJECT AND REPLACING THESE STREET TREES.
AND THEN WE CAN MOVE TO THIS BROADER LIST AND MAKE SURE WE JUST CONFIRM THE ORDER OF OPERATIONS THERE.
SO EITHER BILL, MARION OR ANYBODY, UH, ANY QUESTIONS, CLARIFICATIONS, COMMENTS ON THE 50 TREE REPLACEMENT LIST THAT WE HAVE? I AGREE WITH ALL OF THE COMMENTS THAT HOWARD MADE, AND I THINK WE SHOULD JUST, I MEAN, I THINK WE SHOULD FOLLOW THAT GUIDANCE.
THAT SEEMS TO MAKE A LOT OF SENSE TO ME.
UH, AND I WON'T TALK ABOUT THE OTHER LIST UNTIL WE GET TO THAT.
WELL, IT SOUNDS LIKE THEN, JUST FROM READING THIS AND HEARING COMMENTS, WE PRETTY HAVE BROAD AGREEMENT ON APPROVING AT LEAST THE 50 REPLACEMENT TREES HERE.
SO I'LL ASK IF WE, OR EXCUSE ME, LET'S FIRST OPEN THIS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
UH, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC, WE'LL OPEN THE THREE MINUTE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
I WILL ASK THE CITY CLERK IF WE HAD ANY COMMENTS, UH, PRIOR TO THE MEETING ON THIS ITEM.
WELL THEN, FOR FOLKS WHO ARE IN THE CHAMBER WITH US, IF ANYONE HAS ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS THEY WANNA OFFER ON THE RELIEF LIST, PLEASE GIVE YOUR SPEAKER CARD TO THE CLERK.
AND IF YOU'RE A MEMBER OF RELIEF, WE CAN JUST DO THAT AS PART OF OUR DELIBERATION.
SO IF THERE'S ANYONE ELSE WHO'S NOT A MEMBER OF RELIEF THAT WOULD LIKE TO GIVE COMMENTS, WHICH I DON'T SEE ANYONE DOING, SO I WILL CLOSE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ITEM,
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BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE FOR A MOTION.AND PRIOR TO THAT, UH, CAROLYN OR WENDY, IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY COMMENTARY YOU WANT TO GIVE, UH, IN RESPONSE, PLEASE DO.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION OUR 50 TREES THAT WE REALLY WANNA PLANT.
UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MOVING THAT AHEAD.
UM, I DID WANT TO TOUCH ON A FEW QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL HAD.
ONE WAS, UM, HOW SOME OF THE TREES ON THE BROADER LIST WERE, UM, WHAT, YOU KNOW, USING TOO MUCH WATER YOU DIDN'T THINK WERE APPROPRIATE FOR STREETS.
UM, WHAT RELEAF IS THINKING ABOUT IS NOT JUST THE SIDEWALK STRIPS, BUT ALSO MEDIANS, UM, YOU KNOW, LARGER AREAS WHICH MAYBE ARE NEXT TO CREEKS IN SOME AREAS.
AND SO WE WERE WANTING A FULL PALETTE TO CHOOSE FROM.
SAY IF WE'RE GONNA WORK ON, UM, DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT COME UP, LIKE RAINIER IS COMING UP, UM, AND WE WILL BE, YOU KNOW, THINKING ABOUT WHAT TREES WE CAN PUT IN THERE.
BUT REALLY THOSE ARE STREET TREES, RIGHT? AND SO IT'S A, IT'S A BIG AREA, BUT WE NEED A, WE CAN USE TREES IN THAT AREA THAT WOULDN'T BE APPROPRIATE IN A, IN A STREET STRIP, LIKE NEXT TO A HOUSE.
SO WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR THE WIDEST CHOICES.
AND SOMETIMES THOSE AREAS ARE NEAR CREEKS OR AREAS THAT GET MORE WATER.
AND SO THAT'S WHY SOME OF THESE HIGHER WATER USING TREES ARE ON THE LIST.
AND, UM, FROM WHAT OUR ARBORIST HAS SAID THAT EVEN THE HIGH WATER USING SOME OF THE HIGH WATER USING TREES ONCE THEY'RE ESTABLISHED CAN BE QUITE DROUGHT TOLERANT.
UM, AND THEN IN TERMS OF IF THEY WERE, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WANNA DO YOUR LIST, BUT IF THEY'RE ALL TOGETHER ON THE SAME LIST, IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE SOME CITIES HAVE SOMEBODY COMMENTED ALREADY, UM, THAT THIS TREE IS APPROPRIATE FOR A CERTAIN SPACE.
BUT IT ALSO SEEMS THAT WHEN YOU GO TO PUT A STREET TREE, UM, AND APPLY FOR A PERMIT, THERE IS A SPACE WHICH SAYS YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE AN ARBORIST REPORT SO THAT THE ARBORIST IS SAYING THAT THE STREET TREE IS APPROPRIATE.
SO THAT COULD BE A GUARDRAIL, YOU KNOW, IF ALL OF THESE STREET TREES ARE ON THE LIST, THE HOMEOWNER HAS TO GET AN ARBORIST REPORT.
SO OF COURSE THE ARBORIST WOULD SAY, NO, A WILL IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THIS SPACE.
YOU KNOW, SO I'M HO THAT MIGHT BE A NICE GUARDRAIL THERE.
UM, AND THEN IN TERMS OF TREE SELECTION THAT HAD BEEN TALKED ABOUT, UM, WE, AS IT HAS BEEN SAID, WE CONSULT WITH EXPERTS AND WE HAVE OUR CONSULTING ARBORISTS, WHICH HELPS US CHOOSE TREES FOR THE RIGHT SPACE.
AND, UM, WE'VE GOT 2000 TREES ALMOST UNDER, UM, MANAGEMENT AND THEY'RE DOING WELL.
SO, UM, JUST THAT LOAD OF CONFIDENCE ABOUT TREE CHOOSING.
UM, AND IN TERMS OF THE OTUS AND THE TOYON, UM, I HEAR, I HEAR YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT THE STREET TREES.
THEY'RE SUCH GREAT BENEFITS FOR POLLINATORS.
PERHAPS THEY COULD BE ON A STREET TREE LIST IF THEY WERE USED IN A WIDE MEDIAN, YOU KNOW, COULD THEY BE ADDED TO THE STREET TREE LIST SO THAT WE COULD MAYBE PLANT THEM ON RAINIER? AND IF YOU WANNA CALL THEM BUSHES, YOU COULD CALL THEM BUSHES, BUT MAYBE HAVE THEM ON THERE SO THAT WE CAN USE THEM IN THESE BIGGER SPACES AND HAVE GREAT POLLINATOR, UM, YOU KNOW, GREAT FLOWERS FOR POLLINATORS AND NATIVE BEES AND THINGS.
SO I THINK I TOUCHED ON ALL THE COMMENTS.
AND I KNOW I TALKED BEFORE ABOUT GETTING A MOTION ON THESE 50, BUT JUST BECAUSE WE'VE HAD THIS GREAT, UH, INPUT BACK FROM RELIEF, CLEARLY THERE IS LOTS TO TALK ABOUT BETWEEN, UH, POTENTIALLY HOWARD AND OUR STREET TREE AD HOC AND RELIEF ABOUT THIS LONGER LIST.
CAN I GET KIND OF A, I DON'T THINK IT HAS TO BE A FORMAL MOTION OR VOTE, BUT KIND OF A GENERAL CONSENSUS OR, YOU KNOW, STRAW POLL, UM, FOR ANYBODY WHO AGREES THAT WE CAN NOW LET THIS LONGER LIST GO TO RELEAF AND DISCUSSIONS WITH OUR STREET TREE AD HOC TO GO BACK AND FORTH TO APPROVE THE INTERIM LIST THAT RELIEF IS BRINGING FORWARD.
DOES THAT SEEM ACCEPTABLE TO THIS GROUP? IT'S KIND OF WHAT HOWARD RECOMMENDED THAT, UH, HE WOULD WORK WITH DIRECTLY WITH RELIEF.
I THINK YOU COULD SAY OUR STREET TREE AD HOC WILL WORK DIRECTLY WITH RELIEF ON THIS LONGER INTERIM LIST THEY'RE PROPOSING TO GET SOME OF THEIR PROJECTS DONE, AND WE DON'T HAVE TO VOTE ON THAT TODAY, AND THEN WE CAN MOVE TO OUR 50 TREE REPLACEMENT PROJECT.
DOES THAT SOUND AGREEABLE TO THIS COMMITTEE? AND EV TARYN, I'M JUST,
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OH, GO AHEAD.WHAT WOULD BE THE TIMELINE OF THAT? WHAT WOULD BE THE UM, THE SCOPE OF THAT? UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE KIND OF IN A HURRY, RIGHT? AND WE GOT SOME LOVELY RAIN RIGHT NOW.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GONNA PLANT NOW.
UM, SO, UM, I'D LIKE TO HAVE PARAMETERS AROUND THAT SO THAT PLANNING CAN HAPPEN.
WELL, SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT NEEDING A FORMAL APPROVAL FROM US.
UM, SO THIS WILL BE SOMETHING THAT THE CITY COULD WORK ON INTERNALLY.
THEY'RE ASKING FOR OUR FEEDBACK.
I THINK WE'VE GIVEN SOME HERE TODAY, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE ABOUT TO HAVE A DISCUSSION IF TIME ALLOWS FOR OUR STREET TREE AD HOC.
SO I THINK HOWARD HAD PUT FORWARD LETTING THIS STREET TREE AD HOC AND HIM WORK DIRECTLY WITH RELIEF TO GET THEIR LIST SITUATED SO THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THEIR PROJECTS.
AND THEN I WILL ASK EVERYBODY FOR A MOTION ON THE IMMEDIATE 50 TREE PROJECT.
YEAH, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, I, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT THE RECOMMENDED STREET TREE LIST, THE, UM, LATER ON IN MEETING.
UM, BUT I JUST FEEL LIKE IT, YOU KNOW, THESE, THE HIGH WATER USING TREES, THE, THE, UM, THE, THE ALDERS AND THE BIG LEAF MAPLE AND THE, AND THE, AND THE WILLOW.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANNA HAVE THOSE ON AN APPROVED STREET TREE LIST THAT, THAT, UM, THE PUBLIC IS GONNA BE USING BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE CONFUS CONFUSING TO THEM.
I, I THINK IT'S, THESE ARE MORE LIKE GONNA BE REALLY EXCEPTIONS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA REQUIRE AN EXCEPTIONAL LOCATION.
THEY'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, IF UH, THE PUBLIC SEES BIG LEAF MAPLE AND THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL TREES AND THEY'RE GONNA THINK, OH, THAT'S GREAT, I'LL PLANT THAT AND THEN THEY'RE JUST GONNA BE SORELY DISAPPOINTED.
SO, UM, BUT YOU KNOW, HAVING, HAVING THOSE AVAILABLE TO REALLY FOR THEIR PALATE AND, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, APPROPRIATE LOCATIONS THAT, THAT, I AGREE WITH THAT.
UM, ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT I WANTED TO MAKE WAS THAT I THINK WHATEVER INTERIM LIST IS USED SHOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH OUR STREET TREE, OUR RECOMMENDED STREET TREE LIST.
WE, IF THERE, IF THERE'S SOMETHING SPECIFIC, A SPECIFIC LOCATION OR A SPECIFIC TREE THAT ISN'T, IS NOT ON THAT LIST OR IS NOT GOING TO BE ON THAT LIST THAT PEOPLE FEEL VERY STRONGLY IS SPECIALLY SUITED TO THAT LOCATION, THEN THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT SHOULD BE BROUGHT TO THE STREET TO THE COMMITTEE.
OTHERWISE, I FEEL LIKE EVERY, WE SHOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'RE TELLING THE PUBLIC THAT WE WANT TO BE PLANTED AS STREET TREES AND WITH WHAT WE'RE PAYING A CONTRACTOR OR WORKING WITH A PARTNER TO PLANT AS STREET TREES.
I THINK WE NEED TO BE VERY CONSISTENT WITH ALL OF THAT.
SORRY, I'M JUST GONNA STEP IN HERE.
I THINK FOR CLARIFICATION, YOU HAVE TWO THINGS.
ONE IS A LARGER LIST THAT WOULD BE AN INTERIM LIST, RIGHT? THAT RELIEF COULD USE, NOT THE GREATER PUBLIC TO GET SOME OF THE PLANTING PROJECTS DONE.
AND HOWARD HAS SUGGESTED THAT HE OR THE AD HOC WOULD WORK WITH RELIEF SPECIFICALLY TO GO THROUGH SOME OF THAT LIST TO SEE WHAT SHOULD BE ALLOWED AND WHAT SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED AND WOULD NOT HAVE TO BRING IT BACK TO THE FULL COMMITTEE FOR APPROVAL.
SECONDARY TO THAT, HEATHER'S ASKING FOR SUPPORT FOR THE 50 TREE PLANTING, WHICH IS MUCH MORE IMMEDIATE.
SO I WOULD ASK THE COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT BOTH OF THOSE AND TO GIVE YOU RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND THAT'S WHAT'S ON THE TABLE CURRENTLY.
THANK, THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.
UM, SO YES, JUST LOOKING AROUND, IT LOOKS LIKE, FROM WHAT I'M HEARING FROM THE COMMENTS, WE HAVE SUPPORT TO LET HOWARD AND THE STREET TREE AD HOC NOW WORK WITH RELIEF TO REFINE THEIR INTERIM LIST JUST FOR THEIR PROJECTS.
AND THEN DO I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FOR THE 50 TREE PROJECT TO APPROVE WHAT WE HAVE THERE? I'LL MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE 50 TREE PROJECT AND A SECOND.
AND THANK YOU TO RELEAF IN AMERICORPS.
OF COURSE, WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU GUYS STAY FOR THE WHOLE MEETING, BUT THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE FOR THAT PORTION.
UM, WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO FUTURE UPDATES.
AND SO NOW WE'LL MOVE PAST ITEM THREE AND MOVE INTO A VERY SIMILAR TOPIC.
UM, THIS IS ITEM FOUR, OUR STREET TREE AD HOC COMMITTEE PROGRESS UPDATE.
AND I WILL TURN IT OVER TO HOWARD TO GIVE US A LITTLE CONTEXT AND UPDATE THERE.
UM, SO WE, UH, HAVE GONE OVER OUR LIST AND, UM, CONSIDERED ALL OF THESE NEW TREES.
WE'VE ADDED, UH, SEVERAL NEW ONES.
UM, AND I, I, I, I APOLOGIZE, I CAN'T, UH, COMMENT ON HOW THIS LIST
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DIFFERS FROM THE, UH, ORIGINAL LIST OTHER THAN, UM, A COUPLE OF MY FAVORITE TREES.LIKE I KEEP SAYING THAT WESTERN SYCAMORE AND THE ALPA ARE ON IT.
UM, AND UM, WE ALSO, UH, THE CATALINA IRON WOOD'S BEEN ADDED.
UM, I THINK THE, UM, THE UH, UH, THE, UH, CATALINA CHERRY HAS ALWAYS BEEN ON IT.
BUT ANYWAY, UM, UH, IT DOES HAVE PLANTER WIDTHS, IT HAS WATER USAGE.
UM, IT HAS AN AREA THAT IT MIGHT COVER.
UM, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON TREE VIEWING LOCATIONS.
I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED, UM, AND ENHANCED.
UM, AND UH, AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER COM UH, COLUMN IN HERE WHERE IT'S JUST CALIFORNIA NATIVE.
IT'S JUST YES, YOU KNOW, SO YOU CAN KIND OF LOOK DOWN, BUT THEY'RE NOT SEPARATED OUT.
UM, AND I GUESS THAT'S, THAT'S ALL MY COMMENTS.
WE'VE BEEN TALKING STREET TREES, SO I THINK EVERYONE'S PRIMED.
SO I'LL JUST LOOK AT THE COMMITTEE FOR, UH, JUST QUESTIONS, CLARIFYING QUESTIONS TO THE AD HOC OR COMMENTS, UH, ON THIS PROGRESS UPDATE.
LEY, WELL, I WENT AROUND LOOKING, UH, FOR CHECKING THE TREE LOCATIONS TO SEE WHICH TREES WERE STILL THERE AND DISCOVERED THAT QUITE A NUMBER OF THEM HAVE BEEN REMOVED.
UM, ONE WARNER TOLD ME THAT THE CITY TOLD THEM THEY HAD TO REMOVE ONE OF THE RECOMMENDED TREES, UM, BECAUSE OF SIDEWALK DAMAGE AND THEY COULDN'T REPLACE IT WITH THAT PARTICULAR TREE.
SO, UM, BUT SO I HAD COME EMAILED CINDY ASKING FOR ADMIN HELP.
AND JUST TO CLARIFY, YOU KNOW, THE, THE TREES COME AND GO AND SO DO COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
AND SO I WANTED A PLACE FOR THE TREE LIST TO LIVE OUTSIDE OF THESE, THIS THE COMMITTEE.
UM, SO YOU KNOW, IF WE DISCOVER THAT A, YOU KNOW, A TREE IS NO LONGER EXISTING, IT CAN BE EASILY, THE LIST CAN BE ACCESSED BY SOMEONE IN THE CITY AND THE LOCATION THAT UPDATED.
SO THAT, THAT'S ALL I WAS ASKING FOR IS SOMEONE THAT CAN ACCESS AN EXCEL FILE.
'CAUSE WHAT HAPPENED WAS NO ONE ON THE AD HOC GROUP HAD ACCESS TO THE EXCEL LIST.
AND SO THE WHOLE LIST HAD TO BE GENERATED NEW BY ONE OF OUR MEMBERS.
SO I DID AT ONE POINT, AND I HAVE THE EXCEL LIST 'CAUSE I JUST HIT CONVERT TO EXCEL.
SO IT DIDN'T, I'M SORRY, YOU SOMEBODY HAD TO RECREATE IT.
NO, IT DID, HE COULDN'T USE THAT FOR SOME RE AND I, I CAN'T COMMENT ON WHY NOT.
BUT I DID PASS THAT ALONG TO HIM.
BUT THE LIST ITSELF LIVES IN PLANNING THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
SO WHEN YOU ASK FOR ADMINISTRATIVE HELP, I THINK MAYBE IT'S A BIGGER BETTER QUESTION TO ASK THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WHO HAS OWNERSHIP IN THEIR DEPARTMENT OF THE LIST, RIGHT? BECAUSE I'M SURE THEY CAN GET SOMEBODY, UM, TO LOOK AT IT.
THEY'LL BRING IT TO THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE 'CAUSE THEY WANT HELP WITH UPDATING.
UM, AND THAT'S A REQUEST THEY WOULD MAKE.
BUT I, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THAT DEPARTMENT, SO I'D JUST HAVE TO CHECK IN.
WOULD IT HELP FOR US ATT TO HAVE, UH, TO JUST AT LEAST UNDERSTAND OUR POINT PERSON WITHIN PLANNING FOR THIS LIST OR ANYTHING TREE RELATED? BECAUSE I ASSUME IT'S NOT ALWAYS HEATHER, SHE KIND OF DOES EVERYTHING, BUT GENERALLY AT THIS POINT IT'S LIKELY HEATHER FOR THIS LIST.
UM, BECAUSE THE REQUEST CAME FROM HEATHER ORIGINALLY FOR THE UPDATE, BUT YEAH, SO I THINK THERE COULD BE ADMINISTRATIVE HELP, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR STAFF'S WORKLOAD IS AND LIKE HOW OFTEN THEY WOULD GO OUT TO CHECK EACH SPOT OF EVERY TREE THAT I DON'T KNOW, I CAN'T SPEAK TO IT.
UM, BUT IS IT POSSIBLE? ABSOLUTELY.
WELL AMBERLY AND APOLOGIES I DIDN'T SEE YOUR EMAIL AND RESPOND TO IT QUICKLY ENOUGH, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE WE COULD LOOP IN HEATHER HINES MOVING FORWARD AND I COULD ASSIST WITH THAT IF YOU ASK THOSE QUESTIONS AGAIN AND MAKE SURE YOU GUYS GET THE FILES YOU NEED AND, AND THE HELP YOU NEED.
UH, ANY OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBERS COMMENTARY ABOUT SUITABILITY OF SPECIES, SPECIES WE'RE MISSING ANYTHING LIKE THAT FROM THIS AD HOC LIST? I KNOW CINDY, THAT TIME IS, TIME IS A THING, BUT ANY FEEDBACK THAT YOU HAVE ON THIS LIST,
I THINK, UM, UH, THE LIST LOOKS GOOD TO ME.
I, AGAIN, UH, THE, THE ISSUE THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP SEVERAL TIMES I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH IS WE PUT THIS INFORMATION OUT THERE AND UH, AND WE'RE REALLY KIND OF CROSSING OUR FINGERS THAT THE PUBLIC IS GONNA MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICE TO PLANT THE RIGHT TREE IN THE RIGHT LOCATION.
AND THAT IT'S GONNA OPTIMIZE ALL THESE THINGS WE, WE WANT OUR TREES, UH, TO DO.
AND THERE'S, YOU KNOW, UH, IT GET, I THINK IT GOES BACK TO REALLY WANTING SOMEBODY ON STAFF, UH, UH, A A STRONGER URBAN FORESTRY MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT CAN ADDRESS GETTING THE RIGHT TREE IN THE RIGHT LOCATION.
AND SO I GUESS IN THE INTERIM, WE PROBABLY WANT THIS INFORMATION
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TO MAKE SURE WE'VE, UM, WE REALLY ARE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, MAYBE SOME MORE NOTES AROUND, UM, TO HELP OUR, OUR, THE PUBLIC TO MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICE.AND SO HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU HOWARD, OR OR THE COMMITTEE ON WHATEVER OTHER INFORMATION THAT THIS COULD, UH, THIS, UH, THIS WHATEVER WHAT OTHER INFORMATION THIS COULD HAVE.
AND CINDY, WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE IF PEOPLE HAVE FEEDBACK TO THE AD HOC FOR THEM TO SEND THAT TO YOU TO THEN BE SENT TO THE AD HOC JUST SO WE'RE NOT VIOLATING BROWN ACT IN TERMS OF AMBER? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
SO IF YOU HAVE TYPE COMMENTS THAT YOU WANNA SEND OVER, I CAN SEND THEM BOTH TO HOWARD AND TO EBERLY.
UM, ANYONE ELSE QUESTIONS, COMMENTARY ON THE LIST IN FRONT OF US? IF NOT, I WILL ASK A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT COLUMNS.
YOU KNOW, IT'S COME UP, UH, THE DIFFERENT KIND OF TYPES OF STREET TREES THAT WE HAVE, WHETHER IT'S IN A MEDIAN, DIFFERENT TYPES OF STREETS.
I, I GUESS I DON'T WANT TO EXPECT YOU TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION HERE, BUT SOMETHING TO CONSIDER IS, IS THERE A COLUMN ER OR A COLUMN WE CAN ADD OF USEFUL INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT TYPE OF STREET IS THIS APPROPRIATE ON OR WHERE DO WE ENVISION, SOMETIMES IT'S IN THIS COMMENTS, UM, BUT JUST THINKING AND, AND THAT MIGHT FORCE YOU TO MAKE UP A WHOLE KIND OF SYSTEM OF LIKE MEDIANS NARROW STREET.
UH, SO MAYBE THAT'S A LITTLE TOO MUCH, BUT SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT IF THERE'S A WAY OF SPECIFYING MAYBE THE TYPE OF STREET OR STREET TREE USE WHERE IT'S MOST APPROPRIATE.
SO SOMETHING I JUST WANTED TO PUT TO OUR AD HOC WHILE, WHILE WE HAVE THE TIME IN FRONT OF THE COMMITTEE.
OR MAYBE LIKE A, A, A PARAGRAPH OR TWO THAT JUST, UM, REMEMBER THESE ARE THE IMPORTANT ISSUES TO THE PLANTER STRIP SIZE OF THE WIRES, UM, WHAT OTHERS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION FOR FOR FOLKS TO, TO READ.
AND I SEE THERE IS PLANTER WIDTH, SO MAYBE THAT KIND OF COMES CLOSE TO GETTING US THERE.
UM, SO THAT'S, THAT IS ALL I HAD.
SO, UM, IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE, I WILL OPEN THIS UP FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
IN THIS PERIOD WE CAN HAVE MEMBERS OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARDS UP TO THE CLERK TO GIVE THEIR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT BECAUSE DOUG FOX IS OUR ONLY PERSON HERE.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
I WILL ASK THE CLERK, DID WE HAVE, UH, ANY COMMENT ON THIS ITEM PRIOR TO THE MEETING? NO, WE DO NOT.
WITHOUT ANY PUBLIC COMMENT, I WILL CLOSE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ITEM.
LAST CALL FOR ANY FEEDBACK WHILE WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS STREET TREE LIST.
WELL, IF YOU LOOK UNDER GENERAL NOTES, WHICH, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THE PUBLIC IS GOING TO CHOOSE A TREE, HOPEFULLY THEY'RE LOOKING AT THAT.
IT TALKS ABOUT OVERHEAD WIRES AND I THINK, YEAH, YOU JUST HAVE TO LOOK AT PLANTER WIDTH SIZE.
'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE NOT GONNA PLANT A, A VALLEY OAK OR A COAST LIVE OAK, YOU KNOW, IN A NORMAL SIDEWALK SPACE.
UM, I DID HAVE ONE ADDITION JUST 'CAUSE, YOU KNOW, GOING AROUND LOOKING FOR, UM, LOCATIONS TO SEE WHAT TREES WERE STILL ALIVE.
I DID SEE A LOT OF MAY TENS, WHICH WE NEVER DISCUSSED.
SO I WANTED TO ADD THAT TO THE LIST.
I, AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU HAD ANY COMMENTS, HOWARD OR ROGER? UM, I, I, I LIKED MAY TENS.
UM, I HAVEN'T SEEN THEM MUCH OF AS, AS A STREET TREE, UM, BUT I'D TAKE A LOOK.
I KNOW THEY'RE IN PUTNAM PLAZA THERE.
UM, I KNOW, AND THAT'S ALL I KNOW.
I DON'T, I DON'T ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE A FEELING ABOUT THEM ONE WAY OR ANOTHER TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH.
THERE'S QUITE A FEW OF THEM AROUND TOWN.
WELL IT LOOKS LIKE THEN WE'VE GOTTEN OUR COMMENTS AND FEEDBACK AGAIN, PEOPLE CAN SUBMIT IN WRITING IF YOU NEED MORE TIME TO DIGEST, SUBMIT THAT TO CINDY DIRECTLY AND THEN SHE CAN PASS ON TO THE AD HOC IF YOU HAVE MORE COMMENTS AND THOUGHTS ON THAT ITEM.
FOR NOW, I'M GONNA CLOSE ITEM FOUR AND MOVE US TO ITEM FIVE, WHICH IS OUR DARREN, BEFORE YOU MOVE ON, CAN I JUST ONE COMMENT, IF YOU WANNA LOOK AT THE OLD STREET TREE LIST AND YOU DON'T HAVE IT STILL, OR IF IT'S NOT AT THE TOP OF YOUR INBOX, LET ME KNOW AND I CAN EMAIL THAT TO YOU SO YOU CAN DO THE COMPARISON AS WELL.
I, I DON'T KNOW THAT I'M THAT FAMILIAR WITH THE OLD LIST.
SO, UM, MOVING TO ITEM FIVE, THIS IS OUR PLANNING DESIGN AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE DISCUSSION AND RECOMMENDATION TO ADD A THIRD AD HOC COMMITTEE MEMBER.
UM, BECAUSE WE ARE ON OUR TIME SCHEDULE, I THINK I'LL JUST GIVE AN UPDATE ON THIS THAT I, RIGHT NOW OUR MEMBERS ARE MARYANNE AND ROGER.
I WAS HOPING AND KIND OF HAD PROPOSED AND WANTED TO NOMINATE HOWARD TO BE THE THIRD MEMBER OF THAT SUBCOMMITTEE.
THIS IS AGAIN, AN EXERCISE WHERE WE WOULD HAVE AN AD HOC OR SUBCOMMITTEE THAT IS ASSISTING PLANNING WITH GENERATING GUIDELINES WHEN IT COMES TO TREES FOR DIFFERENT PROJECTS, WHEN PROJECTS OR DEVELOPMENTS COME FORWARD.
UH, AND THEN THERE'S A LOT OF DIRECTIONS THAT A AD HOC OR SUBCOMMITTEE COULD GROW, BUT IT GIVES OUR EXPERTISE A CHANCE TO GET
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INVOLVED IN THE PLANNING PROCESS, UH, IN A WAY THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE APPLICANTS TO COME BEFORE OUR WHOLE COMMITTEE AND MAKES IT A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBLE, BUT GETS OUR EXPERTISE IN THERE.CINDY, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD ON THIS ITEM? DOES HOWARD ACCEPT THE NOMINATION? IS MOTION? AM I ALLOWED, AM I ALLOWED TO NOMINATE HIM JUST RIGHT NOW? I WOULD NOMINATE HOWARD TO BE THE THIRD MEMBER.
DO I HAVE A MOTION I MOVE TO NOMINATE HOWARD TO THE PLANNING AD HOC.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? CAN I GET A ROLL CALL VOTE ING AYE.
UM, NOW I DO HAVE TO OPEN THIS FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, SEEING AS WE DO NOT HAVE PUBLIC HERE TO GIVE COMMENT CARDS, I'M GONNA ASSUME WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE IN THE ROOM.
CLERK, DID WE GET ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM PRIOR TO THE MEETING? WE DID NOT.
UH, SO THAT COMPLETES ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
UM, THIS IS THE ARBOR DAY AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE PROGRESS UPDATE.
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE ARE RUNNING SHORT ON TIME, THERE'S A LOT I COULD SAY HERE.
CINDY, DO YOU HAVE A SYNOPSIS OR ANY UPDATE YOU'D LIKE TO GIVE? UH, FOR ARBOR DAY? WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER ON A BIGGER EVENT THAT IS ARBOR DAY IS A PART OF, SO STAY TUNED.
UM, DARREN'S LEADING THAT AD HOC, BUT YOU KNOW, THE OTHER MEMBERS I'M SURE WILL BE LOOPED IN FAIRLY QUICKLY HERE, BUT IT'S GONNA BE EXCITING.
SO IT'S GONNA BE A LOT OF FUN.
A BA MUCH BIGGER EVENT THAN JUST ARBOR DAY.
AND WE MAY STILL DO ANOTHER PLANTING TOO THAT WAS ON DISCUSSION WITH THE TABLE.
SO I'D LOVE TO HEAR YOU SAY THAT.
UM, I GUESS, DOES THE COMMITTEE HAVE ANY INPUT, ANY QUICK THOUGHTS ON ARBOR DAY? I KNOW THAT WASN'T, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT YET TO COME, SO MAYBE THAT'S A PREVIEW OF COMING ATTRACTIONS.
UM, I WILL OPEN IT FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
PEOPLE CAN BRING COMMENT CARDS.
WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE IN THE BUILDING.
DID WE GET ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM FOR ARBOR DAY PRIOR TO THE MEETING? WE DID NOT.
MANY MORE UPDATES TO COME THERE.
ANYONE, ANY THOUGHTS ABOUT ARBOR DAY? QUICK THOUGHTS YOU WANNA THROW OUT THERE? HOWARD, YOU CAN DAY.
WELL THEN I'LL CLOSE ITEM NUMBER SIX AND WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.
THIS IS THE COMMUNICATION AND OUTREACH AD HOC COMMITTEE PROGRESS UPDATE.
UM, THAT COMMITTEE, UH, THAT AD HOC CONSISTS OF MYSELF, ROGER MC, UH, LAN, AND TARYN.
I DO NOT HAVE ANY UPDATES FOR THIS COMMITTEE.
I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE MET TARYN, ROGER.
WE MOVED PAST ONE THING I COVERED OFF ON THE LAST MEETING.
UM, AND UH, WE JUST FINISHED, UM, ENGAGING A DOWNTOWN BUSINESS THAT HAD MOLD ISSUES WITH THEIR CREPE, GAVE THEM, UM, A SOLUTION PER MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT.
AND THEN, UH, NOW WE'RE HELPING A RESIDENT THAT HAS TWO HERITAGE TREES IN HIS FRONT YARD.
THANKS TO COMMITTEE MEMBER CLOVER, WE'VE ENGAGED WITH HIM AND CAN REPORT ON WHAT HAPPENS NEXT TIME.
AND THAT WAS A VERY GENEROUS USE OF WE.
UM, I WILL SAY THAT I LOVE HEARING THAT UPDATE.
I THINK THERE'S A DISCUSSION WE CAN HAVE IN FEBRUARY WHEN THIS AD HOC TECHNICALLY EXPIRES ABOUT SCOPE.
UH, BECAUSE I LOVE THE IDEA OF WORKING DIRECTLY WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
I THINK WHEN WE STARTED IT, IT WAS WORKING WITH OTHER STAKEHOLDERS AND CITIES TO GAIN INSPIRATION AND I THINK THAT COULD STILL BE IN THERE, BUT I THINK IT HAS A REALLY ROBUST ROLE POTENTIALLY.
IT'S REALLY HELPFUL WORKING WITH THE PUBLIC.
UM, I'LL GET PAST THE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
I'LL OPEN THIS FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
HAVE PEOPLE GIVE SPEAKER CARDS? WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE IN THE BUILDING, SO THERE'S GONNA BE NO IN-PERSON.
CITY CLERK, DID WE GET ANYTHING PRIOR TO THE MEETING ONLINE? WE DID NOT.
UM, ANYTHING ABOUT COMMUNICATION AND OUTREACH AD HOC FROM OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBERS? A THOUGHT, AN IDEA? ANY FEEDBACK? OKAY.
THEN I'LL MOVE US PAST THIS AND PEOPLE CAN GET TO THEIR, THEIR COMMENTS.
SO I'LL CLOSE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN
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AND I WILL GET TO COMMITTEE COMMENT.THIS IS CHANCE TO SHARE UPDATES RELEVANT TO THIS COMMITTEE FOR ANY COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
AND I WILL START ON MARYANNE'S SIDE IF WE JUST MARCH ON DOWN THE ROOM.
OKAY, ROGER? YEAH, THIS, THIS MAY NOT BE THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO DISCUSS IT IN DETAIL, BUT I'M, I'M INTERESTED IN TRYING TO GET MORE DEFINITION OF THIS URBAN FORESTRY MANAGEMENT ENTITY.
WHAT, WHO, WHO IT REPORTS TO, WHO OVERSEES IT? UH, DOES IT REPLACE IT? THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE? UH, I MEAN, IT, IT IS, IT IS JUST A WHOLE BUNCH OF QUESTIONS,
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BUT IT KIND OF SHOWS UP IN CLIMATE SE QUESTION.THERE'S A TREE, THERE'S A TREE MANAGEMENT CONSULTANT OR SOMETHING AND I HAVE NO IDEA WHERE HE CAME FROM OR WHO'S MANAGING IT.
AND IT, IT REFERS TO, IT'S UNDER PUBLIC WORKS AND, AND PARKS AND REC SHARE AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT SHARED.
BUT IT'S NOT CLEAR AT ALL WHAT IT IS, WHERE IT'S COMING FROM, WHO OVERSEES IT.
AND IT SEEMS LIKE THERE OUGHT TO BE A LOT OF DISCUSSION WITH THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND THEN I SHOULD GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEN I SHOULD GO.
YEAH, I LIKE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
I THINK THERE MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY AS WE STILL HAVE OUR COMMUNICATION AND OUTREACH AD HOC AS IT'S CONSTRUCTED.
YOU AND I MAY BE ABLE TO REACH OUT TO PLANNING, WHETHER IT BE BRIAN O AND ANDREW TRIPLE, ANYONE INVOLVED IN GENERAL PLAN TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THOSE BIGGER PICTURE ISSUES.
ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE LOCKED INTO ANYTHING OR DEFINED ANYWHERE.
SO WHEN ARE WE GONNA DO THAT? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU ROGER FOR THAT UPDATE.
UH, BILL, ANY COMMITTEE COMMENT? NO COMMENT.
UM, I HAVE COMMENTS THAT I COULD OFFER, BUT I THINK I'VE KIND OF SAID EVERYTHING THROUGHOUT THIS MEETING.
SO REALLY NO UPDATE FROM MY END.
WE HAVEN'T HAD A PBAC MEETING OR A PLANNING MEETING I THINK SINCE OUR LAST TREE COMMITTEE MEETING.
UH, HOWARD? YEAH, I THINK THIS IS, UM, PROBABLY PUBLIC WORKS MORE, BUT I JUST WANNA MENTION UP IN THIS COMMITTEE I WAS, UH, HAVING BREAKFAST AT AQUIS ON SUNDAY AND I NOTICED, UH, THERE AND FOR A FEW SURROUNDING BLOCKS, UM, LOTS OF SYCAMORES WITH RED DOTS ON THEM IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT.
UM, IT SEEMED PRETTY CONSISTENT, THE RED DOTS.
UM, AND THEY WERE ALL SYCAMORES AND THEY'RE ALL MATURE.
RIGHT, RIGHT NEXT TO AQUAS ON SECOND STREET.
YOU SHOULD LOOK LIKE, LIKE RED DOTS ON THE UHHUH ON THE STREET OR ON THE TREE ON THE TREES THEMSELVES.
THE TREES ALL LOOK TO BE TAGGED FOR REMOVAL.
TO ME, THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE ALL STREET.
ARE THEY UNDER WIRES? 'CAUSE THE, SOME ARE, 'CAUSE RED DOTS, LOT OF THAT ARE PG E BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF SYCAMORES UNDER WIRES THAT AREN'T TAGGED.
SO ANYWAY, JUST, I'M JUST COMMENTING.
I THINK YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.
I'D LOVE TO SEE, UH, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU ARE SO INCLINED TO EMAIL, UH, KENT, BRIAN O UH, AND CINDY AND BRING THAT, I'M SURE YOU PROBABLY ALREADY HAVE.
UH, KAREN, ANY COMMENTS? GOD, THAT JUST MAKES ME SICK.
UM, ROGER, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
WE'LL BE HERE IN 20 YEARS WITH THE SAME ISSUES IF WE DON'T FIX THE ROOT CAUSE.
UM, PROBLEMS. AND I'LL JUST SAY THAT I'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF DISAPPOINTED COMMENTS IN THE PAST WEEK BECAUSE VARIOUS COMMITTEES, INCLUDING THE TREE COMMITTEE, CLIMATE COMMISSION, AND THE PARKS COMMISSION, ALL GAVE HARD WORK TO THAT CARBON BLUEPRINT DOCUMENT, SAID NO ARTIFICIAL TRUTH FOR THE ECOSYSTEM THAT IS OUR TREES, OUR BIODIVERSITY, OUR CLIMATE SEQUESTRATION ABILITY KILLS US.
THEY JUST COMPLETELY THREW OUT ALL OF OUR COMMENTS AND STAFF PRESENTED A CARBON BLUEPRINT THAT SAYS, HEY, WE CAN KEEP DOING THIS FOREVER CHEMICAL, TOXIC ARTIFICIAL TURF FOR SPORTS FIELDS.
AND, UM, UH, THAT IS JUST SO DISCOURAGING.
WHAT THE HECK ARE WE DOING UP HERE? WE'RE GONNA BE HERE IN 20 YEARS JUST CONTINUING TO, UM, THROW AWAY THE GOOD WORK OF OUR VOLUNTEERS AND CONTINUE TO KILL OUR SOIL, CUT DOWN OUR TREES.
YOU KNOW, I TAKE THIS VERY SERIOUSLY AND UM, I JUST WANT TO KEEP IT IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY THAT WE DO NEED TO MAKE CHANGE AND NOT KEEP DOING THE SAME THING.
OTHERWISE, WE'RE JUST GOING TO KEEP HAVING THE SAME THING IN THE FUTURE.
WELL, AND THANK YOU FOR ELEVATING THE IMPORTANCE OF STAYING ENGAGED AS INDIVIDUALS, NOT JUST COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US ALL TO MAKE COMMENTARY.
WE DON'T ALWAYS GET TO FORMALLY AT A COMMITTEE AND I KNOW YOU CONTINUE TO AS AN INDIVIDUAL CITIZEN, SO THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
AND IT, UH, ARTIFICIAL TURF COMES BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL MONDAY, DECEMBER 16TH.
$2.5 MILLION FOR A ANOTHER INSTALL AT LUKE CASEY WHEN IT'S ONLY ACCORDING TO SONOMA PARKS, $200,000 TO DO NATURAL GRASS INSTALL.
EBERLY, UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMITTEE COMMENTS? OKAY, TERRIFIC.
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WILL TURN IT OVER TO CINDY FOR A STAFF COMMENT.JUST QUICKLY, SOME UPDATES ON THE UFM.
WE DO HAVE UNDER CONTRACT A CONSULTANT TO HELP US THROUGH THE UFM PROCESS.
SO WE'LL BE FINISHING UP THE INVENTORY AND INCLUDING SOME STREET TREES IN DOING, UH, UH, A STUDY OF, OF A PORTION OF THE STREET TREE TO ALLOW UNDER THE UFM
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TO HELP US GUIDE THAT.SO WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU GUYS AN UPDATE ON THAT.
THERE'LL BE A LOT OF WORK HAPPENING, SO LOOK OUT FOR THAT.
UM, AND OUTSIDE OF THAT, THE BLUEPRINT WAS APPROVED.
AND THAT WAS A REALLY BIG, UM, PUSH TO GET OVER THE GOAL LINE.
SO I WAS REALLY HAPPY FOR THE CITY FOR THAT.
UM, AND AS FAR AS THE SYCAMORE TREES, SOMETHING I'M NOT AWARE OF.
I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS IT REALLY QUICKLY.
UM, AND NO, IT'S NOT BECAUSE I DON'T LOVE SYCAMORES.
I'M NOT TRYING TO ERADICATE THEM FROM THE CITY.
I JUST LIKE THEM IN BIG FIELDS.
I LIKE THEM IN FIELDS, NOT IN AS A STREET TREE.
UM, SO NO, I DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION TO GIVE YOU ON THOSE, BUT I WOULD SAY IF IT'S IN THE ROW, THEN MAYBE WE SHOULD REACH OUT TO CITY ENGINEER'S OFFICE TO FIND MORE INFORMATION BECAUSE THEY SHOULD HAVE AN IN CORROSION PERMIT.
THAT'S, THANK YOU FOR THAT UPDATE, CINDY.
UH, AND WITH THAT I WILL ADJOURN OUR MEETING AT 5:05 PM THANK YOU.