[CALL TO ORDER]
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UM, THANKS FOR YOUR PATIENCE THIS EVENING.
I'M THE PLANNING MANAGER HERE, UH, WITH THE CITY OF PETALUMA.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED IN JUST A MOMENT.
WAIT FOR EVERYONE TO SETTLE IN, UH, THIS EVENING, UH, VICE CHAIR, DARREN RASON WILL BE SERVING AS ACTING CHAIR.
UH, CHAIR MOSES IS JOINING US.
HOWEVER, SHE WAS, UH, IS, IS, UM, HAD PLANNED TO BE ABSENT, BUT IS FILLING IN SO THAT WE CAN ACHIEVE A QUORUM THIS EVENING.
AND SO TO TAKE THAT PRESSURE OFF OF HER THIS EVENING, THEN, UM, VICE CHAIR RASON WILL SERVE AS, AS, UH, ACTING CHAIR.
SO WITH THAT IN MIND, THEN THIS EVENING, UM, CHAIR KUSON.
UH, THANK YOU FOR THE PREFACE, UH, ANDREW.
SO I WILL CALL TO ORDER THIS REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY OF PETALUMA PLANNING COMMISSION ON TUESDAY, MARCH 11TH.
AND WE WILL KICK THINGS OFF WITH OUR CALL TO ORDER, AND I'LL ASK THE CITY CLERK
[ROLL CALL]
CLERK TO START OFF THE ROLL CALL.COMMISSIONER, UH, ER MCCARLEY, ABSENT.
COMMISSIONER NEWELL, PRESENT VICE CHAIR KUSON PRESENT, AND COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLE.
SO WE'LL MOVE TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON ITEMS OF PUBLIC INTEREST THAT ARE WITHIN PLANNING COMMISSION'S SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION THAT ARE NOT LISTED ON THE CURRENT AGENDA.
PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED UP TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON.
DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF PERSONS WISHING TO ADDRESS PLANNING COMMISSION TIME WILL BE ALLOCATED IN EQUAL SHARES TOTALING NO MORE THAN 15 MINUTES.
SO FOR ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT CREEKWOOD, YOU WOULD GIVE YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT AT THAT TIME.
SO I WILL OPEN PUBLIC COMMENT AND ASK ANY SPEAKERS IN PERSON TO BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARDS TO THE FRONT.
AND WHILE WE'RE WAITING ON THAT, I'LL ASK THE CLERK, DID WE GET ANY COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING? WE RECEIVED NO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING.
DO WE HAVE ANY GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS IN THE AUDIENCE? NO, WE DO NOT.
THEN, PRETTY QUICKLY WE CAN CLOSE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT AND WE CAN MOVE STRAIGHT INTO OUR PRESENTATIONS.
OUR SOLE PRESENTATION OF THE EVENING BEING THE CREEKWOOD DEVELOPMENT, OR EXCUSE ME, THE PRESENTA.
THERE ARE NO PRESENTATIONS IN TODAY'S MEETING.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
TO THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES.UM, SO THE, WE CAN ACTUALLY ANNOUNCE ALL OF THE MINUTES WE'RE GONNA BE APPROVING IN ONE MOTION.
THESE WOULD BE THE MINUTES FOR THE MEETING OF JULY 9TH, 2024, SEPTEMBER 10TH, 2024, AND OCTOBER 8TH, 2024.
AND I'LL JUST ASK COMMISSIONERS IN ATTENDANCE IF ANYONE HAS ANY CHANGES, UPDATES, QUESTIONS.
THEN I THINK WE CAN JUST BUY A CLAIM, MOVE FORWARD WITH APPROVING ALL THOSE MINUTES, AND THEN WE'LL MOVE
[PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION]
TO PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION.SO THIS IS GONNA BE OUR REVIEW OF THE RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY OF PETALUMA PLANNING COMMISSION TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW, AND A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT FOR THE 59 DWELLING UNIT, CREEKWOOD HOUSING DEVELOPMENT LOCATED AT TWO 70 AND TWO 80 CASA GROUND A ROAD.
UH, THIS ITEM IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND DOES REQUIRE DISCLOSURE OF ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS.
I HAVE AT LEAST ONE, SO I'LL ASK ANY COMMISSIONERS IF THERE'S ANY EX PARTE, NONE.
WELL, THEN I WILL SHARE THAT I SPOKE WITH THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT FOR THIS PROJECT, UH, JUST TO TALK ABOUT TREES AND PLANTINGS.
AND I THINK AS RELEVANT TO THIS BODY, I RECEIVED THE FEEDBACK THAT THERE IS SOME ABILITY TO POTENTIALLY, UM, ADJUST THE PALETTE IF WE DESIRE MORE NATIVES.
THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF FLEXIBILITY THERE.
THEY JUST DIDN'T WANNA UPDATE AGAIN, BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN THROUGH A COUPLE ITERATIONS.
UM, THEY ALSO SHARED WITH ME SOME CONSIDERATIONS INCLUDING, UH, UTILITY LINES ABOVE THE STREET FRONTAGES, UH, THAT LIMIT SOME PLANTINGS, AS WELL AS SOME UTILITIES IN THE FRONT YARDS OF THE UNITS.
SO WITH THAT OUTTA THE WAY, UH, WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL ASK GREG POWELL TO PRESENT.
UH, MY NAME IS GREG POWELL, AND I'LL BE LEADING THE PRESENTATION FOR THE CREEKWOOD HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AND ALSO RENTING THE SLIDE MACHINES.
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JUST A SECOND.NO, IT DOESN'T DO THAT EITHER.
I ALWAYS LIKE TO GET THE BUGS OUTTA THE WAY IN THE BEGINNING.
UM, SO TONIGHT, THE, THE PRESENTATION IS GOING TO HAVE SEVERAL TOPIC AREAS THAT I'D LIKE TO COVER.
THE FIRST IS THE FUNCTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE EXPECT OF YOU TONIGHT.
UH, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, UH, A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND THAT LEADS US UP TO THE PROJECT DESCRIPTION, UH, SOME IMPORTANT REVIEW CRITERIA, AND THEN THE CONCLUSION.
UM, THE PRIMARY FUNCTION FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS TO DETERMINE IF THE PROJECT MEETS THE APPLICABLE STANDARDS FOR REVIEW.
SO THIS IS WHAT'S IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE, AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING ADDED ON BY STATE LAW.
UM, ALSO TO ALLOW PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU KNOW, THE APPLICANTS HERE, THEY SHOULD, THEY'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK AND THEN HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY.
UM, PLAN COMMISSION ALSO GETS TO CONSIDER THE RECOMMENDATION THAT, THAT I HAVE PUT IN THE STAFF REPORT.
AND THERE'S AN ATTACHED RESOLUTION THAT I'D LIKE TO GO OVER WITH YOU.
SO AGAIN, THE RECOMMENDATION IS RECEIVE A PRESENTATION FROM ME, PROJECT INFORMATION, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING, RECEIVE PUBLIC COMMENT, AND THEN CONSIDER APPROVING SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW AND A TRUE REMOVAL PERMIT.
SOME KEY BACKGROUND, UM, IN ADDITION TO THE CITY'S GENERAL PLAN ZONING AND ORDINANCE, STATE LAW HAS A FEW THINGS TO SAY ABOUT HOUSING PROJECTS.
AND THE FIRST IS THE HOUSING ACCOUNTABILITY ACT.
UH, IT'S AN ACT THAT'S BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME, BUT OVER THE LAST FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS, IT'S BEEN REVISED AND STRENGTHENED TO LIMIT HOW MUCH A CITY CAN SAY ABOUT HOUSING PROJECTS, LIMIT HOW MANY HEARINGS A CITY CAN HAVE ABOUT A HOUSING PROJECT, AND ALSO, UH, RAISE THE BAR ON REVIEW CRITERIA THAT THEY COULD USE TO EITHER DENY OR REDUCE THE DENSITY OR PUT CONDITIONS ON A PROJECT.
SO WE'LL GO INTO MORE DETAIL ON THAT IN A MOMENT.
ALSO, LIST THE HOUSING CRISIS ACT.
IT'S A, A BROAD BILL THAT CHANGED THE RULES IN SEVERAL SECTIONS OF STATE LAW, INCLUDING THE HOUSING ACCOUNTABILITY ACT.
UM, AND THEN A COUPLE OTHER BACKGROUND ITEMS OF THE REQUESTED ENTITLEMENTS.
THERE'S SOME PRIOR HEARINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED, AND THEN THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT.
UM, SO I KIND OF JUMPED THE GUN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE HOUSING ACCOUNTABILITY ACT ON THE LAST SLIDE.
BUT, UM, THE ORIGIN IS TO, WAS INTENDED TO ADDRESS STATE HOUSING CRISIS.
IT'S BEEN AROUND, LIKE I SAID, FOR A LONG TIME.
THE HOUSING CRISIS ACT SAID, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD THESE RULES ON THE BOOKS FOR A LONG TIME.
THEY'RE NOT DOING EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT.
THIS IS THE STATE'S, UH, TALKING.
AND ONE THING THAT'S RELEVANT FOR THE CREEKWOOD PROJECT IS IT, UH, BEFORE THEY CAME IN FOR SPAR WITH THE CITY, THEY APPLIED FOR WHAT'S KNOWN AS AN SB THREE 30 PRELIMINARY APPLICATION.
AND THAT APPLICATION CAME IN, IN 2021.
IT LOCKED IN CERTAIN STANDARDS.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THE CITY CHANGED THE RULES TO SAY SETBACKS ARE DIFFERENT AFTER THAT DATE, THEY WOULD APPLY TO NEW PROJECTS, BUT THEY WOULDN'T APPLY TO THIS PROJECT.
UM, ALL PROJECTS UNDER THE HOUSING CRISIS ACT NOW HAVE A FIVE HEARING LIMIT.
THIS PROJECT'S SUBJECT TO THAT FIVE HEARING LIMIT, THE CITY'S CONDUCTED, AND THE APPLICANT HAS CONDUCTED TWO OF THE HEARINGS THAT ARE ALLOWED BY THE STATE.
THAT WAS THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING.
AND THEN THERE WAS A SCOPING MEETING HELD, GOSH, UH, FALL OF 22, IF YOU CAN BELIEVE IT.
UM, THE SE A MEETINGS AREN'T SUBJECT TO THAT FIVE HEARING LIMIT.
SO THE MEETINGS THE CITY HAD LAST YEAR WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, CITY COUNCIL ON THE DRAFT, EIR, AND THEN IN FRONT OF THE CITY COUNCIL ON THE FINAL EIR ARE NOT PART OF THAT FIVE HEARING TALLY.
SO EVEN THOUGH THERE'S BEEN FIVE HEARINGS HELD FOR THIS PROJECT, TWO OF THEM, COUNT THREE DO NOT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S KEY FOR EVERYONE TO KNOW IS THE HOUSING ACCOUNTABILITY ACT.
AND THE HOUSING CRISIS ACT APPLIES TO HOUSING PROJECT OF A CERTAIN TYPE.
THIS PROJECT'S ONE OF THOSE, UH, A PROJECT NEED NOT BE A SB THREE 30 PRELIMINARY APPLICANT TO GET THE BENEFITS OF THE HOUSING ACCOUNTABILITY ACT OR THE HOUSING CRISIS ACT.
SO THE, THE BAR THAT THE CITY'S, UM, HELD TO FOR DENIAL OR DEDUCTION OF DENSITY OR OTHER THINGS IS VERY HIGH.
AND YOU'VE GOTTEN A, A MEMO AND THERE'S TEXT IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT DESCRIBES THAT FOR YOU.
SO I DON'T NEED TO GO INTO DETAIL, BUT I CAN CERTAINLY ANSWER QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY.
THE OTHER THING THAT'S WORTH NOTING IS, UH, AB 1893, YOU KNOW, THE CITY AND MYSELF INCLUDED, HAS HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE APPLICANT ABOUT THE HOUSING ACCOUNTABILITY ACT.
SORRY TO KEEP DOING THAT, BUT IN THE HOUSING CRISIS ACT AB IN 1893 WAS EFFECTIVE TWO MONTHS AGO.
AND SO OUR UNDERSTANDING OF THAT IS EVOLVED.
AND WE'VE ISSUED A MEMO THAT YOU HAVE TONIGHT THAT'S GOING TO UPDATE THE WAY WE, UH, LOOK AT THIS.
AND THAT THE KEY TAKEAWAY, MAYBE I'M JUMPING THE GUN ON THAT ONE TOO, BUT I CAN'T HELP MYSELF, UM, IS THE AB 1893.
AND IT DOESN'T HAVE A CLEVER NAME FURTHER LIMITS WHAT THE CITY CAN DO.
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MAINLY FOR US TONIGHT IS CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.AND THAT'S IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION WISHES TO PUT A CONDITION ON THE PROJECT, THEY WOULD NEED TO TIE IT BACK TO SOMETHING THAT'S WRITTEN DOWN AND PUBLISHED.
SO PREVIOUSLY THE CITY COULD SAY, WELL, I I THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE MORE EV PARKING, OR YOU SHOULD HAVE 15 MORE TREES UNDER 18, SORRY, UNDER AB 1893, THAT'S NOT AN OPTION FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION ANYMORE.
NOW, IF THE CITY HAD OBJECTIVE STANDARDS OR SOMETHING WRITTEN DOWN THAT SAID, PLANNING COMMISSION CAN ASK FOR MORE TREES, OR YOU COULD DO THIS OR THAT, THEN THERE WOULD BE A, A PLACE FOR THAT.
BUT SINCE 1893 WAS ADOPTED, THAT'S NOT AN OPTION FOR THE CITY.
LEMME KNOW IF I'M TALKING TOO FAST, SO, HELLO, OLIVIA.
ALL RIGHT, SO THE REQUESTED ENTITLEMENTS, THIS IS THE STUFF THE CITY HAS, UH, JURISDICTION OVER SITE PLAN ARCHITECTURE REVIEW PLANNING COMMISSION HAS BEEN THROUGH THAT BEFORE.
TREE REMOVAL PERMIT IS SORT OF A SUBSET OF THE SPAR.
IT'S NOT A STANDALONE THING, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S A COMPANION WITH THE SPAR APPLICATION.
AND THEN THE VESTING TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP IS PART OF THIS PROJECT, BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S SUBJECT TO PLANNING COMMISSION PURVIEW BECAUSE IT'S A ONE LOT SUBDIVISION.
THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR ACTS ON THAT, BUT WE'RE LETTING YOU KNOW ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT'S SORT OF PART OF THIS PROJECT.
UH, EARLIER I MENTIONED THAT THERE'S BEEN, UH, THERE'S THE CITY'S HELD DIFFERENT MEETINGS.
SCOPING MEETING WAS HELD BY THE CITY.
THERE WAS A NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH MEETING HELD BY THE APPLICANT.
AND THEN THERE WERE THE THREE MEETINGS HELD LAST YEAR FOR THE DRAFT.
AND THE FINAL EIR, EXCUSE ME, AND I'M GONNA SKIP OVER THIS ONE MOSTLY BECAUSE I'VE SAID MOST OF THESE THINGS SEVERAL TIMES.
BUT THE KEY THING I WANNA POINT OUT ABOUT ONE OF THE BULLET POINTS HERE IS DECEMBER 16, THE CITY COUNCIL CERTIFIED, THE EIR.
AND WHEN THEY DID THAT, THEY ADOPTED THE, ONE OF THE PROJECT ALTERNATIVES, WHICH WAS NO BRIDGE.
MOST OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM MAY REMEMBER THIS PROJECT FOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS, HAD A BRIDGE PROPOSED THE COUNCIL, WHEN THEY CERTIFIED THE EIR, ADOPTED THE PROJECT ALTERNATIVE THAT SAID NO BRIDGE.
THEY DID ALL THE SQA FINDINGS, STATEMENT OF ORDER WRITING CONSIDERATIONS, AND THE MITIGATION AND MONITORING REPORTING PLAN FOR A PROJECT WITHOUT A BRIDGE.
SO TONIGHT, THIS IS JUST A 59 UNIT HOUSING PROJECT.
THE SE CLEARANCE COVERS YOU FOR THE 59 UNITS, NOT THE BRIDGE.
AND THIS IS REALLY A GENERAL BACKGROUND THING THAT I WANNA POINT OUT THAT IT WAS PART OF THE PUBLIC PROCESS LAST YEAR AT THE DRAFT IN THE FINAL.
BUT IT'S KIND OF THE SETTING FOR THE AREA.
CASA GRANDE WILL BE REPAVED AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.
THE CITY BELIEVES THAT THE, THE RIGHT OF WAY CAN BE REPROGRAMMED IN A WAY THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN TODAY.
AND THEY MAY AT SOME POINT BE TALKING ABOUT CHANGING THE LANE CONFIGURATIONS TO ADD BIKE LANES, ET CETERA.
SO THERE'S A LITTLE GRAPHIC UP HERE.
UM, THERE'LL BE A PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS BEFORE THERE'S ANY CHANGES TO THE LANES, BIKE LANES ADDED, ET CETERA.
BUT THE, THE ROAD WILL BE PAVED AND THAT AT SOME POINT, THE CITY'S GOING TO ENGAGE WITH THE COMMUNITY TO SAY, WE THINK WE CAN DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT HERE.
AND SO INSTEAD OF TWO LANES AND A BIG WIDE STREET THAT ENCOURAGES SPEEDING, THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING DIFFERENT WHERE IT'LL ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO SLOW DOWN.
AND I'LL ALSO OFF OFFER OPTIONS FOR PEOPLE TO NOT DRIVE AND ENHANCEMENTS FOR BIKE LANES, PEDESTRIAN ACCESS AND STREET PARKING.
AND IT'S WORTH SAYING IT'S, THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PROJECT.
UH, THERE'LL BE ANOTHER ENGAGEMENT PROCESS, UH, WHEN THAT GOES FORWARD.
SO NOW WE GET TO TALK ABOUT THE PROJECT.
SO THIS IS A QUICK OVERVIEW FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE.
THE PROJECT SITE'S ON CASA GRANDE ROAD, IT'S OPPOSITE OF THE CASA GRANDE HIGH SCHOOL.
TO THE NORTH IS THE CASA GRANDE SENIOR APARTMENTS.
ADOBE CREEKS TO THE EAST, IT'S A CITY OWNED PARCEL.
THERE'S RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO THE EAST.
IT'S EITHER SINGLE FAMILY OR MULTI-FAMILY.
AND THEN THERE'S THE NEWLY CONSTRUCTED MCKENNA SUBDIVISION IMMEDIATELY ABUTTING THE SITE TO THE SOUTH.
THAT INVOLVES, I SHOULD KNOW THE ACTUAL DENSITY 'CAUSE I DID THE WORK ON IT, BUT IT'S 20 OR 30 DWELLINGS.
THEY WENT THROUGH SPAR IN 2020 AND 2021.
AND THEN CONSTRUCTION FINISHED ABOUT NINE TO 12 MONTHS AGO.
SAME APPLICANT AS THE CREEKWOOD PROJECT BUILT THE MCKENNA SUBDIVISION.
ACTUALLY FORGOT TO MENTION, THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS HAPPENING ON THIS SITE TODAY THAT ARE WORTH NOTING.
ONE OF THE DWELLINGS IS AT, UM, AT CLOSER TO CASA GRANDE, THAT PRO THAT DWELLING WOULD BE DEMOLISHED, AND THEN THE DWELLING TO THE REAR THAT'S CLOSER TO THE ADOBE CREEK WOULD STAY.
THE PROPERTY OWNER OF THAT PROPERTY WOULD HAVE A RECONFIGURED PARCEL, AND THEY WOULD STAY LIVING THERE AND, AND GO ON WITH THEIR LIVES.
AND THEN THE HOUSING WOULD BE BUILT BETWEEN TWO 70 CASA GRANDE AND CASA GRANDE ROAD.
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SO THIS SLIDE DESCRIBES THE, THE AREA, AND THIS IS AN IMPORTANT CONTEXT.THE GENERAL PLAN FOR THIS SITE IS MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
THE CITY THOUGHT WHEN THEY CAME UP WITH THE GENERAL PLAN AND THE ZONING THAT THIS SITE SHOULD HAVE BETWEEN 8.1 AND 18 DWELLINGS PER ACRE.
THE DENSITY PROPOSED FOR THIS PROJECT IS 14.49.
SO IT'S KIND OF, IT'S NOT IN THE MIDDLE.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT ABOVE THE MIDDLE, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY NOT THE MAX.
AND IT'S LUCKILY NOT THE, THE MINIMUM.
SO THE, THE SITE IS ZONED FOR HOUSING.
THE JOURNAL PLAN CALLS FOR HOUSING, THE SITE CALLS FOR CERTAIN BUILDING INTENSITY ON THE SITE.
AND I'LL GET INTO THAT MORE IN DETAIL.
UM, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT ADOBE CREEK'S AN IMPORTANT RESOURCE.
THE PROJECT ORIGINALLY HAD A BRIDGE OVER THAT, UM, CREEK THAT'S NOT IN THE PROJECT ANYMORE.
THERE ARE STILL, HOWEVER, A COUPLE OF, UH, ALTERATIONS THAT WOULD HAPPEN ON THE CITY OWNED PARCEL FOR STORMWATER DRAINAGE.
AND THAT INCLUDES THE REMOVAL OF ONE TREE.
AND I'LL GET INTO MORE DETAIL ABOUT THE TREE MITIGATIONS AND HOW THE CITY APPROACHES TREE REMOVAL IN A MOMENT.
ANOTHER SLIDE ABOUT THE PROJECT SITE.
THIS GETS MORE INTO THE ZONING.
I I KIND OF HIGHLIGHTED SOME OF THAT EARLIER.
THE DENSITY IS 8.1 TO 18 UNITS PER ACRE IS WHAT THE CITY THINKS IS SHOULD HAPPEN.
IT'S ALSO WORTH NOTING, AND I'M JUST GONNA GO BACK UP AND I HOPE I'M NOT LOSING YOU ON THIS, IS THAT THIS SLIDE SHOWS A FLOOD MAP THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU LOOK AT AT THE NEXT SLIDE.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S MADE THIS PROJECT, I THINK, INTERESTING TO REVIEW IN ADDITION TO THE BRIDGE IS WHILE THE CITY'S REVIEWED IT, THE FLOOD CONDITIONS HAVE CHANGED.
THERE'S NEW MAPPING THAT WAS DONE FOR THE MCKENNA SUBDIVISION, AND A LOT OF THIS SITE WAS PULLED OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN.
AND THIS SLIDE THAT'S UP HERE NOW SHOWS THE 500 YEAR FLOODPLAIN.
AND THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE MAP THAT WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT WHEN WE'RE DOING DEVELOPMENT ON THE SITE.
NOT ANYTHING THAT WAS AROUND BEFORE.
ALL RIGHT, NOW WE GET TO GET INTO THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT.
THIS SLIDE IS D DESIGNED, HOPEFULLY TO MAKE IT SIMPLE TO KIND OF BREAK INTO THREE PARTS.
THERE'S HOUSING ALONG THE CASA GRANDE SENIOR APARTMENTS, THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE THAT'S CALLED BLOCK ONE.
THAT'S WHERE THERE WOULD BE THE THREE STORY, SORT OF TOWNHOUSE STYLE DEVELOPMENT.
THERE'D BE EIGHT BUILDINGS, THREE DWELLINGS PER BUILDING.
BLOCK TWO IS THE PREDOMINANTLY DUPLEX STYLE.
SO THERE'S TWO DETACHED BUILDINGS, BUT THE REST OF THEM ARE ATTACHED SINGLE FAMILY.
AND THEN BLOCK THREE, KIND OF THE SAME THING.
THERE'S ONE DETACHED, THE REST ARE ATTACHED DUPLEX STYLE.
AND THEN TO THE RIGHT OF THIS DRAWING IS THE, THE, THE, THE EXISTING PROPERTY OWNER'S LAND.
THAT'S PARTIAL D IT'S JUST DESIGNATED AS D ON THIS MAP.
IT WON'T HAVE A NUMBER OF THAT, BUT THAT'S WHERE THE EXISTING DWELLING WOULD REMAIN IN A REDUCED LOT.
ADJACENT TO THAT IS THE BIORETENTION AREA, WHICH HAS ACTUALLY BEEN PROPOSED TO BE SOMETHING MORE THAN THAT.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE LANDSCAPE PLANS, THERE'S A LOT OF TREES.
AND THE, THE, THE CONCEPT FOR THE, THE BIORETENTION AREA IS THAT IT WOULD KINDA CONTINUE THE REPAIRING CORRIDOR FEATURES.
THERE'S LOTS OF NATIVE TREES, NATIVE PLANTINGS, IN ADDITION TO THE, THE REQUIRED SORT OF WATER RETENTION AND FILTRATION THAT HAPPENS ON THAT LOT.
UM, IT'S WORTH SAYING IT'S ALL ELECTRIC, THIS PROJECT.
THIS ONE SHOWS IN COLOR, SORT OF THE, THE KIND OF A KEY OF THE UNIT TYPES.
I WON'T GO INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL, BUT THE MAIN THING I WANNA POINT OUT WITH THIS IS THERE'S A ROAD THAT LOOPS OFF OF CASA GRANDE, PROVIDES VEHICLE CLEAR AND, AND PEDESTRIAN ACCESS TO ALL OF THE DWELLINGS AND THEN RECONNECTS WITH CASA GRANDE.
THE OTHER THING THAT'S WORTH POINTING OUT ABOUT THIS IS, UM, DURING THE REVIEW OF THIS PROJECT IN THE LAST TWO MONTHS, THE CITY WAS PRESENTED WITH A NEW SITE PLAN.
AND THERE WAS A LOT OF TEXT IN THE STAFF REPORT TALKING ABOUT THE FIRE ACCESS PLAN.
AND IF YOU LOOK THROUGH THE EXHIBITS, YOU'LL SEE DRAWING, SHOWING THE FIRE ACCESS PLAN.
AND THE REASON THAT IS, IS IS TO HELP THE APPLICANT GET TO TONIGHT AND SAVE MONEY OF REDESIGNING AND REPRINTING 50 OR SO PAGES OF PAPER.
THE, THE PLANNING COMMISSIONS ASKED TO LOOK AT THIS DRAWING AND THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS ATTACHMENT, UM, IN ATTACHMENT ONE IS THE A PROJECT TO APPROVE, EVEN THOUGH SOME OF THE OTHER DRAWINGS HAVE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT CONFIGURATIONS.
UH, THE REASON FOR THIS PLAN IS THAT THEY WERE OBSERVING FIRE DEPARTMENT COMMENTS AND OTHER PROJECTS IN THE CITY AND PROACTIVELY CAME TO ME AND SAID, WE THINK WE'RE GONNA NEED TO DO THIS.
AND WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE YOUR HELP GETTING THAT SORT OF VETTED BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND ALSO NOT HAVE TO CHANGE EVERY PLANT SET PAGE.
SO THERE'S JUST SOME SLIGHT CHANGES.
THERE'S ANOTHER SLIDE THAT SHOWS IT BETTER THAN THIS ONE.
SO THIS ONE IS SHOWS IN BLUE ALL OF THE SORT OF ADJUSTMENTS THAT WERE NEEDED TO BE MADE TO THE PLAN THAT THE CITY'S BEEN LOOKING AT FOR TWO YEARS TO GET THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ACCESS.
AND I, I MIGHT JUST PAUSE IF, IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, I CAN ANSWER THOSE.
WE ALSO HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE, THEY CAN DESCRIBE THEM MORE DETAIL, BUT I THINK THE STAFF REPORT DOES A GOOD JOB OF SHOWING JUST THE SUBTLE CHANGES.
TALKED EARLIER ABOUT THE, THE BLOCK
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ONE, TWO, AND THREE AND HOW THE DWELLINGS ARE ARRANGED.UH, THIS SLIDE'S USEFUL TO POINT OUT WHERE THE BELOW MARKET RATE UNITS ARE.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S BELOW MARKET RATE UNITS IN EACH BLOCK, ROUGHLY PROPORTIONATE TO THE NUMBER OF DWELLINGS IN EACH BLOCK.
THERE WOULD BE AFFORDABLE DWELLINGS FOUR IN THE TOWNHOUSE CONFIGURED FOUR IN THE MIDDLE BLOCK, BLOCK TWO, AND THEN ONE IN THE BLOCK THREE WHERE THERE'S F FEWER DWELLINGS.
SO ARCHITECTURE, UH, THIS IS THE PLAN FOR THE TOWNHOUSE STYLE AND IT'S REALLY THE SAME ARCHITECTURE WITH DIFFERENT COLOR SCHEMES.
SO THE DWELLINGS ON THE ALONG THE CREEK AND ALONG CASA GRANDE WOULD HAVE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS OUT TOWARDS EITHER A PATHWAY ALONG THE CREEK OR CASA GRANDE SIDEWALK.
AND THE ONES IN, IN ON THE INTERIOR WOULD HAVE A DIFFERENT CONFIGURATION WHERE THE ACCESS WOULD BE PROVIDED, UM, OFF THE SHARED DRIVE AISLES.
AND THEN BLOCK A IS THE ONES I MENTIONED THAT WERE FACING CASA GRANDE OR ADOBE CREEK.
NOW WE'RE GONNA GET INTO THE, THE DUPLEX.
UM, THEY HAVE DIFFERENT NAMES, CONTEMPORARY AMERICAN FARMHOUSE.
UM, THIS IS THE CONTEMPORARY THERE.
THIS DRAWING SHOWS TWO VARIATIONS.
I THINK THERE'S FOUR OR FIVE COLOR SCHEMES.
SO YOU'RE NOT JUST LOOKING AT A PROJECT WHERE THERE'S GOING TO BE BROWNS AND GRAYS.
AND IT'S IN YOUR, UM, UH, ATTACHMENTS.
UM, AND, AND, AND THE ARCHITECTURE.
THIS PROPOSED HERE IS VERY SIMILAR TO MCKENNA.
ANOTHER SORT OF, UH, PROJECT THAT THE CITY'S SEEN WHERE THERE'S VARIATIONS IN COLORS, VARIATIONS IN TRIM, AND THEN VARIATIONS IN JUST SORT OF THE OVERALL FORM THAT'S PROPOSED IN THESE DIFFERENT STYLES.
AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THERE'D BE ONE, UH, A PROTECTED TREE REMOVED.
IT'S A BUCKEYE CALIFORNIA BUCKEYE.
I CREATED THIS SLIDE TODAY TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THERE'S TWO MITIGATION TREES THAT ARE REQUIRED TO OFFSET THE LOSS OF THAT ONE BUCKEYE.
THERE ARE SHOWN ON YOUR DRAWING AND IN YOUR PLANT SET IS, YOU KNOW, TREE M THE APPLICANTS ALSO PROPOSED 10 OTHER BUCKEYES, AND THAT'S, I HIGHLIGHTED 'EM ALL IN GREEN.
SO THIS BIORETENTION AREA WOULD HAVE COAST LIVE OAKS, CALIFORNIA BUCKEYES, BOTH NATIVES AND THEN NATIVE PLANTINGS ALONG THE GROUND TO CREATE KIND OF A PARK AROUND THIS TENSION, UH, BASIN.
THERE'D BE A PEDESTRIAN PATHWAY AROUND THERE AND A MA UH, MAINTENANCE ACCESS OFF OF THE PRIVATE STREET.
THE TWO MITIGATION TREES THAT ARE SHOWN ON THIS DRAWING PER THE ZONING ORDINANCE SORT OF PROVIDE, UH, MAKE THE CITY WHOLE FOR THE LOSS OF THE ONE TREE.
THE CITY HAS A RATIO BASED ON TREE HEALTH AND SIZE BASED ON THAT RATIO THAT'S PUBLISHED IN THE ZONING YARDS.
TWO TREES OF THIS SIZE ARE NEEDED.
KIND OF ZOOMING OUT A LITTLE BIT, THERE'S LANDSCAPING PROPOSED ALONG EVERY STREET FRONTAGE AND ALONG THE NORTH OF THE SITE WHERE THERE'S SOME BIORETENTION AREAS, UH, ADJACENT TO THE CASA GRANDE, UM, HOUSING.
AND IN THE BIO RETENTION AREA, UM, THERE'S A BETTER SLIDE COMING UP THAT SHOWS HOW, WHAT I'LL JUST SAY VERY LUSH AND DENSELY PLANTED.
IT WOULD BE ALONG CASA GRANDE.
SO THIS IS JUST REPRESENTATIVE OF ONE OF THE UNITS, BUT THERE'S THE SAME PALLET WOULD EXTEND ALONG THE ENTIRE FRONTAGE WITH A LITTLE BIT OF ADJUSTMENTS BASED ON HOW FAR THE DWELLINGS ARE FROM, FROM CASA GRANDE.
INTERIOR FENCES ARE ALSO PROPOSED.
ALL FENCES COMPLY WITH THE ZONING I OR HEIGHT LIMITS AND SORT OF TRANSPARENCY ABOVE THE SIX FOOT LIMIT.
UM, ALL RIGHT, NOW WE'RE UNDER THE REVIEW CRITERIA.
THIS PROJECT'S SUBJECT TO THE, THE GENERAL PLAN.
AND AS YOU KNOW, DOCUMENTED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT, THE CITY'S POLICY SUPPORT, THIS TYPE OF HOUSING, THE CITY EXPECTED A CERTAIN RANGE OF DENSITY TO HAPPEN.
UM, LATER ON IN THE ZONERS, THE CITY EXPECTED THE SAME DENSITY.
AND THEN ALSO THE SORT OF THE, THE INTENSITY USE OF THE LAND, HOW MUCH IS COVERED, HOW FAR APART THE BUILDINGS NEED TO BE, HOW MUCH OPEN SPACE IS NEEDED, HOW MUCH PARKING'S NEEDED.
THIS PROJECT COMPLIES WITH ALL OF THOSE STANDARDS THAT ARE IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
AND ALSO, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THERE'S A, A NUMBER OF BELOW MARKET RATE UNITS.
FIVE OF 'EM WOULD, WOULD BE BE RESERVED FOR LOW INCOME AND FOUR FOR MODERN INCOME HOUSEHOLDS.
UH, THIS PROJECT'S ALL FOR SALE.
SO, UM, THESE WOULD BE CONTRACTED LIKE ALL THE OTHERS WITH THE, THE CITY, WITH THE, UH, HOUSING TRUST.
THEY WOULD FIND THE RIGHT TENANTS, WORK WITH THE THEM TO MAKE SURE THEY COMPLY AND THEN MONITOR THEM FOR, UM, I WANNA SAY IT'S 45 YEARS AND I THINK IT IS FOR, FOR SALE.
IT'S NOT 55, BUT IT'S IN THE STAFF REPORT.
I'LL LOOK THAT UP IF I HAVE THAT WRONG.
UM, ANYWAY, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE OBJECTIVE STANDARDS OF THE CITY APPLIES.
THIS PROJECT COMPLIES WITH THEM AFFORDABLE HOUSING, IT MEETS THIS THE MINIMUM THRESHOLD OF 15%.
AND, UM, IT'S WORTH SAYING, AND I HOPE I DON'T COMPLICATE THINGS.
THE, THE SETBACKS HERE ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN YOU MIGHT SEE ON A, A PROJECT WHERE
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THERE WOULD BE A SUBDIVISION MAP.AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE THE SETBACKS APPLY TO THE EXTERIOR OF THE SITE ONLY.
THERE'S NO PARCELIZATION THAT HAPPENS ON THE SITE.
SO ALL OF THE SETBACKS THAT ARE IN THE ZONING NORTH APPLY TO THE NORTH PROPERTY LINE ALONG CASA GRANDE OR THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE, OR ALONG THE, THE EAST PROPERTY LINE, BUT NOT IN BETWEEN THE DWELLINGS ON THE SITE.
SO THE, THE OWNERSHIP OF EACH OF THOSE DWELLINGS IS DEFINED IN ONE OF THE DRAWINGS IN, IN YOUR PLANTS OR IN YOUR PACKET.
BUT THE, THEY, IT'S LIKE A CONDO.
AND INSTEAD OF IT BEING LIKE A VERTICAL CONDO AND A BUILDING, IT'S, THEY OWN THE BUILDING AND THEY OWN THE LAND AS DESCRIBED IN THE PLANS.
BUT IT'S NOT A SEPARATE PARCEL.
SO ALL OF THE SETBACKS THAT YOU MIGHT SEE IN THE ZONING DORMS DON'T APPLY TO THIS PROJECT IN BETWEEN THE PROPOSED DWELLINGS.
SO WHEN YOU SEE IN, UH, TABLE TWO OF YOUR STAFF REPORT PERFORMANCE FOR SETBACKS, IT'S ALL BASED ON THE PERIMETER OF THE SIDE, NOT BETWEEN THE DWELLINGS.
ALL RIGHT, I THINK I LOST MYSELF.
ALL RIGHT, NOW WE'RE BACK TO MY FAVORITE TOPIC, THE HOUSING ACCOUNTABILITY ACT.
UM, AS DOCUMENTED IN THE STAFF REPORT, WE HAVEN'T FOUND ANY SPECIFIC ADVERSE IMPACT ON PUBLIC HEALTH OR SAFETY.
AND THAT'S THE STANDARD THE PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD NEED TO USE IF THEY WANTED TO DENY THE PROJECT OR IF THEY THOUGHT 59 DWELLINGS IS TOO MANY, IT NEEDS TO BE SMALLER, WE NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
YOU WOULD HAVE TO FIND THAT THAT'S TRUE.
WE DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S ANY REASON TO SAY THAT THAT'S TRUE.
UM, ALSO ON THE SLIDE IS THE SIGNIFICANT UNAVOIDABLE IMPACTS THAT WERE DESCRIBED, UH, IN THE IR AREN'T SOMETHING TO BE CONSIDERED FOR SPECIFIC ADVERSE IMPACT ON PUBLIC HEALTH OR SAFETY.
SO EVEN THOUGH THE CITY, UH, NEEDED TO DO A STATEMENT OF OVERRIDING CONSIDERATIONS TO COMPLY WITH CQA, THAT DIDN'T SORT OF LAY THE GROUNDWORK FOR SAYING THAT THERE'S A SPECIFIC ADVERSE IMPACT.
UH, THIS IS A SLIDE THAT WE CREATED TODAY TO UPDATE YOU ON, UH, SENATE, SORRY, ASSEMBLY BILL 1893.
AND, UH, PREVIOUSLY THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAY HAVE FELT THEY NEEDED TO HAVE A CONDITION ABOUT E UH, EV PARKING OR ADDITIONAL TREES.
THAT WAS THE EXAMPLE THAT I UH, USED EARLIER HERE.
WE'RE GOING TO RECOMMEND YOU AVOID DOING THAT.
BUT IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAD SOMETHING THEY FELT WAS IMPORTANT, LIKE I THINK THERE SHOULD BE MORE TREES OR THEY SHOULD, I DUNNO, YOU CAN MAKE UP SOMETHING ELSE INSTEAD OF IT MAKING IT A SHELL OR YOU WILL DO THIS, AND I'M GONNA BE LOOKING AT THAT IN PLAN CHECK FOR COMPLIANCE.
IT'S, YOU MIGHT RECOMMEND SOMETHING.
AND I, I WANNA SAY THAT I THINK THE BENEFIT OF THIS THAT WASN'T OBVIOUS TO ME WHEN IT WAS FIRST PROPOSED IS, YOU KNOW, IT GIVES THE APPLICANT THE ABILITY TO GO, WELL ACTUALLY I CAN DO THAT.
SO THERE COULD BE A DIALOGUE TONIGHT.
IF YOU HAVE SOME CONDITIONS YOU'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND, THEY'RE HERE TO SAY WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT THAT.
AND THEN ALSO TELEGRAPHS TO THE FUTURE TO TO OTHER APPLICANTS INTO PLANNING STAFF THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE MIGHT BE SOME POLICY THINGS THAT WE NEED TO PUT INTO AN OBJECTIVE STANDARD THAT THEY THEN APPLY TO A PROJECT IN THE FUTURE.
SO, UM, THERE MAY BE A CONDITION TONIGHT ABOUT LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE OR SOMETHING ELSE LIKE THAT.
WE WOULD RECOMMEND THOSE BE RECOMMENDATIONS, NOT MANDATES.
ALL RIGHT, SO I GOT THROUGH THE PRESENTATION, I WAS ABLE TO CLICK THE RIGHT BUTTON AND NOT GO BACKWARDS TOO MUCH.
THE NEXT STAGE IS TO ALLOW PUBLIC COMMENT, UH, AND BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION CHOSE TO TAKE ACTION TONIGHT, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A MOMENT TO SPEAK.
THERE'S ONE CONDITION THAT I'M GOING TO WRITE UP AND HAVE IT DISPLAYED ON THE SCREEN TO TALK ABOUT LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT JUST WAS DEVELOPED THIS AFTERNOON, SO I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO WRITE IT, BUT SINCE IT'S NOT IN YOUR PACKET, I HAVE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO READ IT IN.
AND IF YOU FORGET, I'LL WAVE MY HAND AND SAY, HEY, I WANNA SHOW YOU GUYS A CONDITION.
SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO ADOPT THE, THE, UH, THE RESOLUTION THAT'S ATTACHED TO YOUR STAFF REPORT.
AND, UM, I'M HERE FOR QUESTIONS.
THAT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION.
THAT WAS A LOT OF CONTEXT TO LAY OUT AS WELL.
UH, SO WE WILL START WITH, UM, QUESTIONS FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
IF PEOPLE HAVE CLARIFYING QUESTIONS, THIS MIGHT BE A REMINDER TO MYSELF, BUT LET'S TRY TO END IT WITH A QUESTION MARK AND NOT DO LEADING QUESTIONS INTO A BIGGER COMMENT OR POINT WE WANNA MAKE REALLY TRY TO CLARIFY AND GET TO PUBLIC COMMENT AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN BEFORE WE DIVE INTO KIND OF THE MAJORITY OF OUR COMMENTARY AND, AND OUR ASKS FOR THIS PROJECT.
UH, SO I'LL LOOK FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS TO VOLUNTEER TO KICK US OFF.
JESSICA, JUST A QUESTION ON THE RECOMMENDATION FOR, UH, INCENTIVE.
SHALL, IS THAT STILL IN THE CONTEXT OF CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL OR IS THERE A SORT OF A DIFFERENT WAY WE OUGHT TO BE COMMUNICATING THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS? SHOULD WE HAVE THEM C CERTAINLY FOR ANY PROPOSED CONDITION, UM, THE PLAN COMMISSION MIGHT CHOOSE TO DO, UH, PUT ON THIS PROJECT, NOT NOT CLEAR ABOUT THE OTHER PARTS.
SO YOU MEAN LIKE OTHER DISCUSSIONS? SOMETIMES WE, SOMETIMES WE JUST IN THE, IN OUR DISCUSSION
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SORT OF SAY, YOU KNOW, OH STAFF, LIKE BE AWARE THAT THIS IS THE WAY WE'RE FEELINGAND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT GIVEN THE STATE LAW CONSIDERATIONS THAT ARE VERY FRESH, UM, WE'RE SORT OF PROCEDURALLY APPROACHING THAT IN THE CLEANEST WAY.
YEAH, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO FEEL FREE TONIGHT TO CONVEY WHAT YOU THINK AND THEN WE CAN SORT OF, IF IT'S GOING OVER A LINE, WE THINK YOU MIGHT BE OF A CONCERN.
SO THEN WE WILL JUMP IN AND SAY, HMM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE DO YOU MEAN THAT'S A RECOMMENDATION OR A A, A PREFERENCE, NOT A MANDATE.
UM, THAT WAY YOU CAN FEEL FREE TO OKAY.
YOU'LL HELP US TO NAVIGATE THEM.
UM, BRENT, NICOLA, EITHER OF YOU GUYS HAVE CLARIFYING QUESTIONS.
UM, WHEN I LOOKED AT THE MAPS, UM, EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT ONE OF THE THINGS I'M REALLY CONCERNED WITH IS ACCESSIBILITY AND SEVERAL OF THE MAPS HAD CROSSWALKS BUT THEN THEY DIDN'T APPEAR IN OTHER MAPS.
SO I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S A CROSSWALK AT EACH OF THE CORNERS AT THE, UM, WHERE THE SECTION TWO IS AT THOSE TWO CORNERS.
ONE ON MY MAP THAT I HAVE HERE HAS ONE CROSSWALK.
IT'S NOT SO MUCH THE CROSSWALKS THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT, IT'S THE CURB CUTS BECAUSE GOING DOWN A DRIVEWAY IN A WHEELCHAIR IS NOT EASY TO DO.
SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE HAVE THOSE SIDEWALKS AND CURB CUTS APPLICABLE ON THE CORNERS.
AND JUST A QUICK REMINDER FOR OUR SECOND PERIOD TO REALLY GET INTO RECOMMENDATIONS AND ASKS.
BUT NO, I THINK THE QUESTION IS GOOD.
THE STATUS OF CURB CUTS AND CROSSWALKS AND IF THERE'S ANY CLARIFICATION WE NEED THERE AND CHAIR WE, OR EXCUSE ME, WE COULD ALSO, UH, ASK THE APPLICANT TO RESPOND TO THAT AND INDICATE IF PERHAPS THEY JUST LEFT IT OFF THE MAP AND, AND UM, AND ATTACH THAT THEY WOULD BE INCLUDING THAT.
AND IF I MAY, THIS IS A GREAT WAY TO START OFF THIS POST AB 1893 WORLD, AND, AND I I SAY THAT BECAUSE IT COULD, PART OF THAT COULD HAVE SEEN AS BE SEEN AS A PREFERENCE, BUT HERE I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME ADA A RULES AND OTHER THINGS THAT YOU COULD SAY, YOU KNOW, SUBJECT TO WHAT I BELIEVE IS A RULE THAT'S ALREADY ON ON THE BOOKS, YOU HAVE TO AT LEAST HAVE A WAY THAT THE CROSSWALK IS ACCESSIBLE.
AND WE'VE GOT THE APPLICANT HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE, THE CURBS.
AND I DON'T THINK THESE ARE SQUARE CURBS THAT ARE IN THIS PROJECT.
I THINK THEY'RE ROLLED, BUT I DON'T THINK A ROLLED CURBS GONNA MEET YOUR OBJECTIVE.
SO I THINK WE SHOULD ASK THAT WHEN THERE'S PUBLIC COMMENT AND HAVE THEM CLARIFY THAT POINT.
AND ALSO I WANNA SAY THAT THE, YOU POINTED OUT THE CROSSWALKS AREN'T SHOWN EVERYWHERE AND I CAN PULL UP A PLAN THAT'LL SHOW THEM CONNECTING.
AND I THINK THAT PART OF THE REASON YOU MIGHT SEE THAT IS NOT WORKING IS GOING BACK TO THE FIRE ACCESS PLAN.
THAT ONE IS SORT OF THOUGHT THROUGH AND ALL THE OTHER ONES AREN'T UPDATED YET TO SHOW WHAT IS REQUIRED ON THAT PLAN.
SO IF, IF IT WOULD BE HELPFUL, I CAN SHOW THAT ON THE SCREEN, WE CAN LOOK AT HOW THEY'RE CONNECTED AND THEN WE CAN ASK THE APPLICANT POINTEDLY LIKE, ARE WE GONNA HAVE PROPER RAMPS TO GET TO THOSE CROSSWALKS? THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
UM, ONE OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS I HAD IS WHY ARE THE TREES IN BOXES YOU'RE PUTTING IN NEW TREES? I THINK YOU MIGHT BE REFERRING TO, AND I HAVE TO COMMENT THAT DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF TREE, THEY EITHER GO FROM LIKE A 24 INCH BOX OR THEY'RE IN A FIVE GALLON BUCKET, BUT THAT'S JUST A SIZE FROM THE NURSERY AND THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, FRAMED IN A BOX THAT'S A CERTAIN SIZE AND THAT'S JUST A SPEC THAT THEY USE FOR LANDSCAPE PLANS, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO BE PLANTED IN THE GROUND AND HAVE ENGINEERED SOIL AND PROPER THINGS TO MAKE THEM THRIVE.
IT WASN'T, IT WASN'T CLEAR AS TO IT JUST SAYS IN A BOX AND IT DOESN'T SAY AND THEN PLANTED IN THE GROUND.
UM, AND THEN I KNOW THAT THIS IS NOT IN THE CURRENT LEGISLATION BECAUSE OF THE TIME THEY'VE PUT IN THEIR INITIAL THING, BUT HAS THERE BEEN ANY CONSIDERATION OF MAKING ANY OF THE UNITS 80 DA ACCESSIBLE? GO BACK TO THE, I I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT APP.
OR SORRY, A QUESTION TO HOLD FOR THE APPLICANT.
'CAUSE THEY CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT THEIR INTENTIONS ARE AND WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO.
'CAUSE I BELIEVE THE BUILDING CODE PROBABLY TELLS THEM CERTAIN THINGS ABOUT THAT ANYWAY.
EVEN IF THE VISIBILITY ORDINANCE DOESN'T APPLY.
WELL JUST TO CLARIFY, UM, CAN THE APPLICANT ANSWER NOW DURING THIS QUESTION PERIOD? I THINK SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS ARE GREAT TO, TO ADDRESS.
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THAT'S ENTIRELY UP TO YOU.UM, NICOLA, I THINK YOU BROUGHT UP SOME GREAT POINTS.
IF WE CAN HAVE THE APPLICANT MAYBE CLARIFY THE CROSSWALK ISSUE AND THE CURB CUTS, UH, AND THEN THIS ISSUE ABOUT A DA ACCESSIBILITY.
HONORABLE MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND EVERYONE ON CITY STAFF.
THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.
MY NAME IS TRENT SANSON ON BEHALF OF THE PROJECT APPLICANT TEAM AND WITH ME THIS EVENING IS MY PARTNER DOYLE HEATON AND OUR PROJECT CIVIL ENGINEER AND LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT STEVE FRA.
DEFINITELY HAPPY TO ANSWER A COUPLE OF THESE QUESTIONS.
JUST TO CONFIRM, I THINK THE TREE BOX ONE WAS ANSWERED, IF THAT'S OKAY.
UH, GREG WAS A HUNDRED PERCENT CORRECT THAT UH, THE CALIFORNIA BUILDING CODE DICTATES WITH THESE TYPES OF ATTACHED STRUCTURES, UM, A DA, UH, ACCESSIBILITY AND COMPLIANCE REQUIREMENTS, AGE AND PLACE REQUIREMENTS AND ALL THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.
UM, SO AT THE TIME THIS PROJECT ADVANCES TO THE NEXT STAGE AND CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS ARE PRODUCED.
UM, AND WE'VE WORKED WITH CITY STAFF AND PETALUMA ON MANY PLAN CHECKS ON PREVIOUS PROJECTS BEFORE.
DEFINITELY KNOW EVERYONE WILL LOOK VERY CLOSELY AT MAKING SURE WE ARE COMPLYING WITH ALL THE CALIFORNIA BUILDING CODE FOR A DA AND ACCESSIBILITY.
AND THEN FOR THE CROSSWALKS, UM, I'M DEFINITELY ALSO GOING TO MIMIC GREG AND REFER TO UH, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT PROTECTION PLAN THAT WAS PROVIDED WITH ALL THE, UH, DOCUMENTS HERE WITHIN, 'CAUSE I THINK IT DOES DO A GOOD JOB AS THE SUPPLEMENTAL EXHIBIT KIND OF SHOWING WITH THE ROADWAY MODIFICATIONS FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT COMPLIANCE WHERE OUR CROSSWALKS ARE PLANNED.
'CAUSE AS WITH ALL THE IMPROVEMENT PLAN CHECK AND EVERYTHING ELSE, DEFINITELY INGRESS AND EGRESS ALL NEED TO BE A DA REVIEWED AND COMPLIANT WITH WHAT ALL THAT IS.
UM, AT EACH ENTRY OFF OF CASA GRANDE ROAD INTO THE PRIVATE LOOPED ROAD ON THE INTERIOR, THERE WILL BE, UM, THE PROPER UM, UH, A DA ACCESS RAMPS WITH THE CROSSWALK ALONG THOSE FRONTAGES.
AND THEN ON THE INTERIOR, IF YOU'RE LOOKING KIND OF TOWARDS JUST IF WE'RE LOOKING AT A TRADITIONAL NORTH SOUTHEAST WEST, UM, THE SOUTHEAST CORNER, UH, NEXT TO UNIT 59, RIGHT NEXT TO THE DESIGNATED REMAINDER FUTURE PARCEL WHERE THAT HOME WILL BE REMAINING, UH, TOWARDS THAT ACCESS TOWARDS THE BASIN AND OTHER LANDSCAPING IMPROVEMENTS, THERE WILL BE ANOTHER INTERIOR CROSSWALK THAT WILL CONNECT THAT PERIMETER LOOP SIDEWALK TO THE INTERIOR.
UM, BUT THEN THERE IS NOT ONE DOWN ON THAT NORTHEASTERN END BY UNIT 24 'CAUSE THAT'LL BE WHERE THE FIRE HAMMERHEAD TURNAROUND IS FOR A FIRETRUCK TO BE ABLE TO GET IN AND SERVICE A THREE STORY BUILDING, UM, UH, IN, IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY AND WHATNOT OVER THERE.
BUT THAT HAS BEEN THOUGHT OUT WITH THIS AND DEFINITELY THROUGH THE FUTURE PLAN CHECK PROCESS, WE'LL BE FULLY VETTED BY CITY STAFF DURING ALL THAT.
YEAH, THE LOCATION I WAS INTERESTED IN IS WHERE UNIT 35 IS THE EXTERIOR INTO WHERE UNIT 35 IS? YOU BET.
SO THERE WILL BE THE TRUNCATED DOMES THAT GO RIGHT THERE TOWARDS THE KIND OF RIGHT HAND CORNER THERE, THE EDGE OF UNIT 35.
AND THAT WILL BE IF SOMEBODY IS, YOU KNOW, PARKING THEIR CAR AND WALKING OUT, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO WAIT TO GET ONTO THAT SIDEWALK THAT'S ON THAT INTERIOR BLOCK RIGHT THERE WITH THE 80 DA RAMP AND TRUNCATED DOMES.
AS LONG AS IT'S WHEELCHAIR USABLE.
WELL THANK YOU TO THE APPLICANT AND THANK YOU NICOLA FOR SOME GREAT QUESTIONS.
UM, BRENT, DO YOU HAVE ANY CLARIFYING QUESTIONS, UH, TO PRESENT? I DO, UH, UNDERSTANDING THAT THE, THE PLAN OF THE PROJECT IS, IS FOR CONDOMINIUMS AND OWNERSHIP OF INDIVIDUAL LOTS.
UM, I COULDN'T TELL, MAYBE I WASN'T LOOKING AT THE RIGHT EXHIBIT, BUT WHERE THE PROPERTY BOUNDARIES WOULD BE FOR INDIVIDUAL LOT OWNERSHIP.
THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION AND IT GIVES ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO CLARIFY.
UM, AS A CONDOMINIUM PLAN, THEY, I WOULDN'T REFER THEM AS LOTS.
INSTEAD IT WOULD BE IF I BOUGHT A, A HOME IN THIS SUBDIVISION, THERE WE GO AGAIN.
I WOULD OWN THE FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING TO THE SKY AND THEN LAND OR DIRT AS DEFINED BY THE CONDO MAP.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT, UM, IT MIGHT BE SHEET C EIGHT IN THE CIVIL PLANS, BUT THERE'S THE FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDINGS WOULD BE OWNED, THE DIRT BENEATH THEM.
AND THEN WITHIN THE CONSTRAINTS OF THE BACKYARD, UH, FENCES WOULD BE THEIR LAND.
UH, BUT THERE IS A DRAWING IN THERE AND IT MIGHT USE I PINK LINES TO SHOW
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE APPLICANT SPEAK TO IT BECAUSE IT IS A BIT, I WE RECOGNIZE THAT THE LAST TIME THE COMMISSION SAW A CONDO MAP, WE DID HAVE MULTIPLE LOTS, UM, DESIGNATED.
AND THIS IS A BIT OF A DIFFERENT APPROACH WHERE YOU HAVE EXCLUSIVE PRIVATE AREAS.
SO YEAH, I THINK A GOOD SHEET TO REFER TO IS WHAT GREG WAS REFERENCING.
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WHICH IS THE PRELIMINARY CONDOMINIUM SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN.UM, WHERE IT OUTLINES IN DASHED PINK LINES, UH, WHERE THE FUTURE BUILDINGS WILL BE, WHETHER THEY'RE THE, UH, TWO STORY DUPLEXES OR THE THREE STORY TRIPLEXES.
UM, WHAT IS CONSIDERED THEIR EXCLUSIVE USE AREA.
SO WHILE THIS IS NOT A TRADITIONAL SUBDIVISION WHERE SOMEONE WOULD OWN A FEE SIMPLE LOT THROUGH THE CONDOMINIUM PLAN PROCESS ALLOWED IN THE SUBDIVISION MAP ACT, THOSE HOMEOWNERS WOULD OWN THEIR EXCLUSIVE USE AREA DELINEATED WITH A SUBSEQUENT CONDOMINIUM PLAN THAT WOULD BE RECORDED, UH, WITH FUTURE CCNRS AND ALL THOSE OTHER SORTS OF DOCUMENTS.
UM, THAT WOULD DEFINE THAT AIRSPACE THAT, UH, MR. POWELL WAS TALKING ABOUT AS IT RELATES TO THE BUILDING FROM FOUNDATION UP TO THE SKY, BUT THEN ALSO EXCLUSIVE USE AREAS.
UM, THAT WOULD DELINEATE THE, THE FRONT AND REAR YARDS, UH, FOR THESE INDIVIDUAL UNITS.
UM, SO THOSE AREAS, SO LIKE THOSE, THE BLOCK IN THE MIDDLE, THOSE DASH LINES DOWN THE MIDDLE, A DO A DUPLEX WOULD STRADDLE THE MIDDLE OF IT.
AND THEN WITH THESE BOUNDARIES THAT WILL GET REFINED AND RECORDED AT A LATER DATE BEFORE HOMES GO FOR SALE, WILL DELINEATE THOSE FRONT AND REAR YARD AREAS, UM, FOR WHAT IS THE PRIVATE EXCLUSIVE USE AREAS THAT ISN'T LIKE A COMMON AREA LANDSCAPE BASIN AREA, LIKE THAT SOUTHEAST CORNER THERE.
AND THEN MR. SSON, IF YOU COULD, UM, EXPLAIN FOR THE EDIFICATION OF EVERYBODY, SORT OF THE ROLE OF THE H-A-H-O-A, HOW IT'S ESTABLISHED, THE CCNRS AND SOME OF THE GENERAL CONTENT THAT'S INCLUDED.
SO YEAH, WE'VE, WE, WE, UM, WORK VERY THOROUGHLY WITH OUR, UM, CNR DEPARTMENT OF REAL ESTATE COUNCIL IN FORMING PROJECTS SPECIFIC CCNRS FOR EVERY SORT OF PROJECT WE DO.
AND AS MR. POWELL MENTIONED BEFORE, A MOST CURRENT EXAMPLE IS AT MCKENNA.
UM, SO FOR THIS COMMUNITY HERE, THE ROADWAY WILL BE PRIVATE, SO THAT WILL BE OWNED AND MAINTAINED BY THE HOA, THE STORM DRAIN LINES WILL BE OWNED AND MAINTAINED BY THE HOA, THE SANITARY SEWER LINE BEFORE IT REACHES THE PUBLIC.
MAINE AND CASA GRANDE ROAD WILL BE OWNED AND MAINTAINED BY THE HOA.
THE HOA WILL ALSO OWN AND MAINTAIN THAT BASIN AND LANDSCAPED AREA IN THE SOUTHEAST.
ANY OF THOSE OTHER COMMON, UH, AREA IMPROVEMENTS, IF YOU WILL.
UM, WE'RE ENVISIONING RIGHT NOW HOMEOWNERS MAINTAINING THEIR FRONT YARDS, BUT THE CCNRS THAT WILL BE ENFORCED BY THE HOA WHERE THE CITY WILL ALSO HAVE THE RIGHT TO ENFORCE AN HOA TO ENFORCE THEIR OWN CCNRS FOR A SPECIFIC COMMUNITY, UH, WILL HAVE STEPIN RIGHTS IF FOR SOME REASON THERE'S A BAD ACTOR, IF SOMEBODY NOT PULLING THEIR WEEDS PROPERLY, MAINTAINING THEIR LANDSCAPING, IRRIGATING THEIR LANDSCAPING APPROPRIATELY, THE HOA THEN CAN THEN STEP IN AND ENFORCE OR DO IT FOR THEM AND GET THEM TO REIMBURSE THE HOA FOR IT.
AND IN ADDITION, I BELIEVE WHAT MR. POWELL WAS REFERENCING EARLIER, WE CAUGHT UP AND GOT SOME CLARIFICATION.
THERE IS A STRETCH OF LANDSCAPING THAT WOULD BE OUTSIDE OF THE EXCLUSIVE USE AREA OF THOSE, THOSE UNITS FRONT AND CASA GRANDE ROAD TO THE BACK OF THE CURB WHERE THE HOA WE TOLD CITY STAFF, THE HOA WILL GO AHEAD AND MAINTAIN THAT STRIP OF LANDSCAPING ALONG THE FRONTAGE SINCE IT WOULDN'T BE ON AN EXCLUSIVE UNIT, UH, FRONT YARD AREA.
UM, SO IT'LL MAKE SURE IT'S ALL IN THERE AND EVERYONE'S SUPPOSED TO BE PLAYING BY THE RULES AND FOLLOWING THE RULES AND DOING WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.
UM, I HAD ONE OTHER QUESTION, WHICH IS IN THE, UH, THE SECTION OF THE STAFF REPORT DESCRIBING THE CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS AND THE DESIGN.
UM, THERE WAS A, A FOOTNOTE EXPLAINING THAT THE APPLICATION VESTED PRIOR TO THE CITY'S ORDINANCE, UH, THAT DISALLOWED VINYL WINDOWS.
UM, COULD STAFF EXPLAIN WHY THERE'S AN ORDINANCE DISALLOWING VINYL WINDOWS? I CAN, I CAN GO AHEAD AND TAKE THAT.
I HAVE MY FEELINGS ABOUT IT, BUT SO, UM, THE, WHEN THE, WHEN WE ADOPTED THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS IN, UH, I BELIEVE NOVEMBER OF 2023, THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS APPLY TO QUALIFYING RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS SUCH AS PROJECTS THAT COME FORWARD UNDER SB 35 OR SB THREE 30.
AND THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT WINDOW TYPE WINDOW QUALITY AND SUCH.
AND THE DECISION WAS MADE AT THAT POINT IN TIME TO PROHIBIT VINYL MATERIALS AND IN PART BECAUSE OF THE FLAMMABILITY OF THOSE MATERIALS, BECAUSE OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS OF THE PRODUCTION CYCLE OF MATERIALS AS WELL AS THE VISIBILITY OR THE, THE, UM, AESTHETIC OF THEM COMBINED WITH SORT OF A, A MORE LIMITED, UM, DURATION LIFESPAN.
AND SO THE, UM, AT THAT POINT IN TIME THEN THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS DO PROHIBIT THE USE OF VINYL MATERIALS, NOT JUST WINDOWS, BUT ALSO VINYL SIDING.
UM, HOWEVER, THIS PROJECT WAS VESTED IN ALL CITY REGULATIONS PRIOR TO THE ADOPTION OF THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARD.
SO IT CAN'T BE APPLIED TO THE PROJECT.
I NOTED THAT THE SIDING IS NOT VINYL, IT'S JUST THE, THE WINDOWS.
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I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT.UH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER NEWELL.
UH, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS HERE AND I'M GONNA SAVE A MAJORITY OF THEM FOR AFTER THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
DO OUR BUILDING CODES COVER US FOR LIGHTING? I'M ONLY THINKING BECAUSE WE'RE NEAR THE SENSITIVE CREEK, I'M ASSUMING, AND I JUST NEED TO BE REMINDED IF WE HAVE DOWNCAST REGULATIONS OR SOME DARK SKY ORDINANCE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT KICKS IN HERE TO MAKE SURE LIGHTING IS NOT NECESSARILY AN APPLICANT THING, BUT MORE OF A CODE THING.
THE CITY HAS A STANDARD ABOUT SCREENING AND DOWNWARD POINTING.
UM, AND THIS MIGHT BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY SINCE THE CITY MAY NOT HAVE STANDARDS ABOUT NIGHTS DARK SKY ADJACENT TO RIP REPAIRING CORRIDORS TO SAY, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ANY LIGHTING PUT IN IN THE PATHWAYS THAT THEY BE MOTION TRIGGERED SO THAT THEY ONLY COME ON WHEN NEEDED SO THEY'RE NOT JUST BLARING ALL NIGHT.
UM, AND THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S BASED ON A ZONING STANDARD.
SO THAT WOULD BE A RECOMMENDATION IN, IN, IN MY OPINION.
UM, AND YOU ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO SAY TO THE APPLICANT, YOU KNOW, I, I ASSUME THAT THEY WOULD WANT TO DO THE RIGHT THING ADJACENT TO THE CREEK.
WHAT CAN YOU DO THAT'S ABOVE AND BEYOND SOMETHING THAT'S WRITTEN IN BLACK AND WHITE IN HORIZON ZONING ORDINANCE? THANK YOU FOR THAT.
YOU SAW WHERE I WAS GOING AND UH, THAT'S UH, GREAT IDEAS.
UH, AND THEN A QUESTION MAYBE FOR THE APPLICANT, MAYBE FOR STAFF, JUST THINKING ABOUT THE SEPTIC THAT'S CURRENTLY ON SITE AND THAT IT'LL BE DECOMMISSIONED AND CONNECTED WITH THE CITY MAINE.
UM, ARE THERE ANY SPECIAL CONSIDERATIONS THERE? AGAIN, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT FALLS TO DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH FOR SONOMA COUNTY? UM, JUST, JUST WONDERING IF WE HAVE ANY CONCERNS THERE ABOUT SEPTIC AND THAT CHANGEOVER, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE THINK ABOUT WE'RE ADDING BIO RETENTION AREAS, JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE AVOIDING ANY CONTAMINATION OR ANY FUTURE ISSUES, UH, FROM DECOMMISSIONING THAT SEPTIC.
MY TAKE ON THIS IS THERE'S ESTABLISHED PROCEDURES THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD NEED TO FOLLOW, UM, TO GET THE BUILDING PERMITS.
AND I'M SURE THAT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WOULD BE WORKING WITH ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ARE F FOLLOWED.
HOWEVER, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, I WOULD DEFER TO WHAT THE APPLICANT WOULD SAY 'CAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE THE EXPERIENCE TO SAY WHAT THEY'RE THINKING THE PLAN WOULD BE.
'CAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT, THE BIO RETENTION IS WHERE THE EXISTING LEACH FIELD IS NOW.
IT IS DEFINITELY NUANCED 'CAUSE IT'S NOT VERY OFTEN YOU SEE A PROJECT WHERE THERE'S A, A REMAINDER WITH A HOME THAT'S TO STAY THAT HAS BEEN THERE FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND PREDATES THE EXISTING SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE.
UM, SO MR. POWELL'S TOTALLY CORRECT.
WHENEVER WE GO THROUGH THE DEMOLITION PERMIT PROCESS, WE'LL FOLLOW OUR CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL AND, UH, WORK WITH CITY STAFF BETWEEN BUILDING DEPARTMENT ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH TO SECURE THE PROPER PERMITS BEFORE ANY DEMOLITION AND REMOVAL OF THOSE F FACILITIES WILL WORK.
AND JUST FROM A CONSTRUCTION SEQUENCING STANDPOINT WITH, UM, THE PROPERTY OWNER, MR. MALTI REMAINING IN HIS HOME THERE, IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT OF THREADING THE NEEDLE AS TO THE SEQUENCING OF WHEN THINGS MAKE SENSE 'CAUSE WE'LL NEED TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE HIM ACCESS TO HIS EXISTING HOME.
UM, WE'LL ALSO BE, UH, WORKING WITH HIM IN PG E ON HIS E EXISTING GAS LINE THAT'S TO HIS HOME THAT WILL REMAIN WHILE ALL OF OUR NEW HOMES ARE GONNA BE ALL ELECTRIC.
UM, SO THERE'LL BE SOME SEQUENCING AS IT RELATES TO THE INITIAL DEMO TO THE PRELIMINARY GRADING.
PROBABLY NEED TO WORK ON SOME SORT OF A TEMPORARY, UH, SEWER LINE CONFIGURATION TO BE ABLE TO REMOVE THE SEPTIC AND LEACH LINES AND EVERYTHING FOR THE REST OF THE BASIN TO GET FINISHED OUT BEFORE THE FULL NEW, UH, PERMANENT SEWER IS ALL INSTALLED.
SO, UM, THERE'LL BE, DEFINITELY NEED TO BE SOME LOGISTICS, BUT IT'LL FOLLOW ALL THE PERMITS AND, AND PROPER, UH, PROCEDURES BASED ON THE CITY'S OVERSIGHT.
AND I DON'T WANNA PULL US TOO FAR OUTTA SPAR, BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT.
NO, NICOLA, DID YOU HAVE ANY FOLLOW UP QUESTION? I SAW YOU SIGNALING MICROPHONE.
WHERE'S THE GAS LINE RUN? YOU KNOW, I DO NOT HAVE MY ALTA SURVEYED RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME, BUT I BELIEVE IT KIND OF RUNS DOWN HIS EXISTING DRIVEWAY TO GET TO HIS HOME RIGHT THERE WHERE OUR NEW ROADWAY WILL BE FOLLOWING.
SO THE GAS LINE RUNS THROUGH YOUR NEW DEVELOPMENT? CORRECT.
TO JUST SERVE HIS EXISTING HOME.
BUT EVERY NEW HOME WILL BE ALL ELECTRIC? YEAH, IT'S A, YEAH, HE WANTED TO KEEP IT
SO YOU GOING UP THE ORIGINAL DRIVEWAY AREA, CORRECT.
AND IF THERE NEEDS TO BE RELOCATION, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL BE ON US TO MAKE SURE IT'S DONE PROPERLY WITH CITY STANDARDS AND PG E STANDARDS WORKING IN PARALLEL WITH EACH OTHER.
DEFINITELY WILL NOT BE UNDER ANY HOMES
NO GOOD ADDITION THERE, NICOLA.
AND THEN, UH, MY FINAL QUESTION, JUST TO MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING, WILL THIS HAVE, UH, AND SORRY TO MAKE YOU LEAVE THE LECTERN, YOU MIGHT JUMP
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RIGHT BACK THERE.UH, IS THIS GONNA HAVE COMMON TRASH AND RECYCLING AREAS OR IS IT FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL UNIT HAVE THEIR OWN TRASH AND RECYCLING? EACH UNIT.
UNIT WILL, THEY'RE DESIGNED AND PLANNED TO BE ABLE TO HOLD THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL TOTERS FOR RECYCLING STANDARD WASTE AND, UM, YARD WASTE.
THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT FROM REVIEWING THE PLANS.
UM, SO THAT'S IT FOR ME ON JUST CLARIFYING QUESTIONS.
ANYONE ELSE BEFORE WE JUMP INTO PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY.
UM, WELL THEN I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD FOR THIS ITEM.
THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO COMMENT.
PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON.
UP TO TWO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY SEE THEIR TIME TO A THIRD INDIVIDUAL PRIOR TO THE THIRD MEMBER'S PUBLIC COMMENT SUCH THAT A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC MAY HAVE UP TO NINE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
SO IF YOU HAVEN'T DONE SO ALREADY, PLEASE FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD RIGHT OUTSIDE THE ENTRANCE TO THE CHAMBER AND BRING IT UP TO THE CITY CLERK.
YOU CAN ALSO COME UP AND SPEAK AND FILL IT OUT AND HAND IT IN AFTER IF YOU PREFER.
UH, AND AS ALWAYS, PRE PLEASE REFRAIN FROM CLAPPING, BOOING, CHEERING, AND PLEASE RESPECT THE CLOCK AND REFRAIN FROM GOING OVER YOUR ALLOTTED PUBLIC COMMENT TIME.
I DON'T ENVISION US HAVING THAT ISSUE.
UH, SO I'VE GOT ONE SPEAKER CARD AND SOME TRICKLING IN, BUT WHILE WE GET STARTED, UH, I WILL START OFF WITH JACK BERN OR BURN APOLOGIES IF I MISPRONOUNCE HER NAME.
UH, SO JACK TO BE FOLLOWED BY LYDIA ASLAN, GOOD EVENING.
THANKS FOR ALL THE WORK YOU DO.
I JUST HAVE ONE COMMENT, UH, RELATED TO CASA GRANDE ROAD.
UH, I'VE BEEN WATCHING VERY CLOSELY AND INVOLVED IN, IN AS THIS PROJECT GOES FORWARD.
UH, IT'S ALWAYS MENTIONED THAT THERE'S A COMING, YOU KNOW, REDO OF, OF CASA GRANDE.
AND I, I WOULD CAUTION YOU NOT TO PRESUME TOO MUCH THAT THAT'S GONNA SOLVE EVERYTHING.
UH, AND AND THE REASON I SAY THAT IS THAT CURRENTLY THERE'S A HIGH SCHOOL THERE.
EVERY REPORT I'VE READ SO FAR BY CITY STAFF TALKS ABOUT DAILY VEHICLE COUNTS, AVERAGES, YOU KNOW, OVER A DAY.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT AT 8:30 AM AND AT FOUR 30, AND I SEE ALL THE SMILES, EVERYBODY KNOWS HIGH SCHOOLS, YOU KNOW, DON'T HAVE A SPREAD OUT OVER THE, OVER THE DAY, UH, TRAFFIC.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT'S TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT.
THERE'S A LOT OF, THERE'S ENTRIES AND EXITS ON CASA GRANDE.
THERE'S ENTRIES AND EXITS ON ELI WHERE PEOPLE TURN THE CORNER AND GET ON THE CASA GRANDE.
SO WHAT'S MAYBE A SLEEPY STREET IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MORNING AND AFTERNOON, UH, WHEN THERE'S SCHOOL STARTS OR STOPS OR ANY EVENTS, IT GETS PRETTY HEAVY TODAY.
THERE ARE LEFT TURN LANES THERE ALREADY AND THERE'S TWO LANES.
THE ASSUMPTION THAT GOING TO ONE LANE IS GONNA IMPROVE EVERYTHING, UH, IN AN AREA THAT'S ALREADY LEFT TURN RESTRICTED.
WE CAN'T GET OUT OF OUR STREET IN MCKENNA, YOU KNOW, DURING THOSE TIMES.
AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE NEW DEVELOPMENT ARE GONNA HAVE DIFFICULTY.
SO MY ASK IS TO THE LIMIT THAT YOU HAVE, THAT YOU'RE ALLOWED, PLEASE MAKE SURE YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE PASSED ON TO MAKE SURE THAT THE INTENSITY OF TRAFFIC DURING, YOU KNOW, THE HIGH SCHOOL EVENTS AND STARTS AND STOPS IS ADDRESSED.
AND WE DON'T AUTOMATICALLY PRESUME THAT SOMETHING THAT LOOKS NICE LIKE A ONE LANE DEAL IS ACTUALLY GONNA BE MORE RESTRICTIVE BECAUSE IF I HAVEN'T BEEN CLEAR TODAY, THERE'S A TURN LANE AND TWO LANES AND THAT'S NOT ENOUGH TO HANDLE ALL THE LEFT TURN TRAFFIC THAT BUNCHES UP.
SO NOW WHEN YOU HAVE ONE LANE AND A LEFT TURN LANE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE, YOU KNOW, THAT ONE LANE IS GOING TO BE BLOCKED.
SO TO THE EXTENT YOU CAN PLEASE, UH, PASS THAT ON, WOULD APPRECIATE IT, UH, VERY MUCH.
THAT'S REALLY ALL I'VE GOT TO SAY ON THAT ISSUE.
AND I'M ONLY BRINGING THIS UP BECAUSE UP UNTIL NOW THAT HAS NOT BEEN, YOU KNOW, ADDRESSED IN THE, UH, IN THE REPORTING.
UH, NEXT, UH, WE WILL GO TO LYDIA ASLAN, FOLLOWED BY WAYNE ESTRO.
IT'S GREAT TO SEE THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AGAIN.
UH, MY NAME IS LYDIA ASLAN, UM, UH, FROM THE PETALUMA HISTORIC ADVOCATES, WE AT PHA ALSO CONSIDER OURSELVES TO BE ADVOCATES FOR HOUSING, AND WE WANNA EXPRESS OUR SUPPORT FOR THE CREEKWOOD DESIGN.
CREEKWOOD DEVELOPMENTS DESIGN THIS, THIS CREEKWOOD PROJECT IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF LOWER DENSITY MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING.
IT'S ACTUALLY LOCATED CLOSE BY TO MY EAST SIDE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD OF PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
AND I, I FEEL THIS MIX OF DUPLEXES AND TRIPLEXES AT
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CREEKWOOD IS A GOOD FIT AND THE RIGHT SCALE TO BE WOVEN INTO THE RESIDENTIAL FABRIC ON THE EAST SIDE.HOPEFULLY THESE DUPLEX AND TRIPLEX CONDOS WILL CREATE A PATH TO HOME OWNERSHIP HERE IN PETALUMA.
AND, UH, I HOPE THAT TONIGHT'S SPA REVIEW WILL MOVE THIS PROJECT FORWARD AND UNDERWAY SOON.
WE WILL MOVE NEXT TO WAYNE TRO TO BE FOLLOWED BY STEPHANIE.
STEPHANIE WITH GENERATION HOUSING.
UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR, THE DEVELOPERS HERE.
UM, MY CONCERN IS I, I HEAR A LOT OF, UM, TALK ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND MEDIUM HOUSING, BUT WHAT WHAT WE'RE NOT REALLY TALKING ABOUT IS, UM, CREATING JOBS.
ARE WE GONNA PULL FROM THE LOCAL LABOR POOL FOR THESE JOBS, OR, I MEAN, THESE, THESE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO DEVELOP, WE NEED THE, UM, FOR THESE, UM, INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE BUILDING THESE TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO LIVE HERE.
SO IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE TAKE IN CONSIDERATION FROM PULLING FROM OUR LOCAL LABOR POOL AND AT LEAST GIVING THESE PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE THESE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR, LET 'EM HAVE THE INCOME THAT, UM, TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENT.
UH, NEXT WE WILL MOVE TO STEPHANIE, FOLLOWED BY BRUCE MALONE OR MALLON, APOLOGIES IF I DIDN'T GET THAT RIGHT.
UM, I'M DEPUTY DIRECTOR HERE AT GENERATION HOUSING, AND WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO SUPPORT THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU MOVING FORWARD.
THE CREEKWOOD HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.
WE ALREADY SENT IN A LETTER EARLIER THIS WEEK WITH MORE DETAILED SUPPORT, BUT I DID WANNA QUICKLY HIGHLIGHT TONIGHT THAT THIS PROJECT WILL ADD 59 FOR SALE HOMES, INCLUDING NINE BELOW MARKET UNITS, PROVIDING MUCH NEEDED HOME OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES FOR FAMILIES IN PETALUMA, THE MIX OF TOWN HOMES, DUPLEXES, TRIPLEXES FILLS A CRITICAL GAP IN OUR REGIONAL HOUSING SUPPLY, SUPPORTING THE DEVELOPMENT OF MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING THAT ALIGNS WITH BOTH PETALUMA'S GENERAL PLAN AND HOUSING ELEMENT BEYOND HOUSING PRODUCTION.
THIS PROJECT WILL BRING IMPORTANT COMMUNITY BENEFITS, INCLUDING PEDESTRIAN INFRASTRUCTURE AND STORMWATER MANAGEMENT FEATURES, ENSURING RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT THAT ENHANCES NEIGHBORHOOD CONNECTIVITY.
THE DEVELOPER'S PARTNERSHIP WITH THE HOUSING LAND TRUST OF THE NORTH BAY WILL ALSO SECURE LONG-TERM AFFORDABILITY FOR THE LOW INCOME AND MODERATE INCOME UNITS.
WE URGE YOU TONIGHT TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU, AS IT EXEMP, EXEMPLIFIES THOUGHTFUL PLANNING AND RESPONSIBLE GROWTH.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENT.
UH, BRUCE, AND THAT IS THE LAST CARD I HAVE.
UM, THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK.
UM, I HAVE, I LIVE IN THE, UH, PEP APARTMENTS THAT'LL BE ADJACENT TO WHERE THE APARTMENT BUILDINGS IN THIS PROJECT ARE GOING TO OCCUR, WHICH IS LIKE A WALL OF BUILDINGS.
AND MY, UM, FELLOW RESIDENTS ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
WE HAVE GARDENS, UM, THAT THE PEOPLE TAKE CARE OF, AND WE'RE AFRAID OF THE WEST, UM, SUNSETS BEING TOTALLY SHADOWED, UH, INTO OUR GARDENS.
AND, UM, THEY SEEM TO BE IN THE WRONG PLACE REGARDING THIS, UM, PROJECT, THE ADJACENT WEST, UH, EASTERN EDGE OF THIS PROPERTY, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S THIS GREEN AREA, WE JUST HAVE A CREEK RIGHT ON THE OTHER SIDE.
I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU NEED ANOTHER WATER EVENT TO BE BUILT THERE.
UM, THE APARTMENTS, IF THEY WENT ON THAT SIDE, THEY WOULD MATCH THE BUILDINGS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT FENCE, WHICH ARE VERY TALL.
UM, TWO STORY BUILDINGS SET UP ON A HIGH PLANE OF, UH, CONCRETE.
SO THE APARTMENTS THEN WOULD BE MORE ADJACENT TO A REASONABLE PLACE RATHER THAN RIGHT NEXT TO THE DRIVE OF OUR, UH, OUR, UH, APARTMENTS AND THE, UH, SHADING OF OUR GARDENS.
SO THAT'S A VERY BIG CONCERN OF EVERYBODY, AND I KNOW IT'S A BIG DEAL TO REDRAW THE, THE, UH, PLANS, BUT IT'S A LOT EASIER THAN HAVING PROBLEMS WITH RESIDENTS.
AND THERE'S GONNA BE ABOUT 120 CARS IN THIS PROJECT, TAKING CONSIDERATION OF ABOUT ALMOST 60, UM, RESIDENTIAL LOCATIONS.
AND EACH PERSON IN THE, EACH PLACE, IF THERE'S TWO PEOPLE IN THE HOUSE, THERE'S GONNA BE
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THAT MANY CARS.THAT'S A LOT OF AUTOMOBILES, AND THAT'S GONNA BE ANOTHER CONSIDERATION FOR THIS ROADWAY WITH A SCHOOL RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
THANK YOU, BRUCE, FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
THAT IS THE LAST COMMENT CARD I HAVE HERE.
SO WITH THAT, BEFORE I CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT, I'LL ASK THE CLERK, DID WE RECEIVE ANY COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING? YES, WE RECEIVED, I THINK IT WAS ABOUT FIVE PUBLIC COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING.
UH, ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENTS HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED ONLINE, UH, FOR READING.
IT'S ALSO AVAILABLE IN THE BACK, UH, IF YOU WANNA READ IT.
AND WITH THAT, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT, AND NOW WE WILL GO BACK TO COMMISSION DISCUSSION.
AND I'LL JUST SAY THAT, UH, I THINK GREG DID A GREAT JOB HIGHLIGHTING THAT EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE SOME RESTRICTIONS DUE TO HOUSING LAW, IT'S STILL A GREAT TIME FOR COMMENTARY THAT BUILDS INTO OUR VERNACULAR AROUND DESIGN AND WHAT WE WANT TO SEE IN THE FUTURE IN OUR CITY, AND POTENTIAL FUTURE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARD CONSIDERATIONS.
UH, AND I WILL JUST ALSO SAY THAT DURING OUR DISCUSSION, UM, CHAIR MOSES MENTIONED THE DIFFERENTIATION BETWEEN RECOMMENDATIONS AND CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL VERSUS GENERAL COMMENTARY.
SO IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU DEFINITELY WANT TO BRING UP FOR THE REST OF US TO CONSIDER AS A FORMAL CONDITION OF APPROVAL, UH, WHETHER THAT BE A RECOMMENDATION, SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE, JUST MAKE SURE YOU REALLY MAKE THAT EXPLICIT.
LIKE, THIS IS SOMETHING I WANT TO ELEVATE TO BE A RECOMMENDATION THAT MAKES IT TO A CONDITION OF APPROVAL.
UH, SO WITH THAT, I'LL LOOK FOR A VOLUNTEER TO KICK OFF OUR DISCUSSION.
OH, ACTUALLY, BEFORE I DO THAT, CAN I, I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO, I WROTE 'EM DOWN HERE.
JUST WANTED TO ANSWER A COUPLE OF THE PUBLIC'S ITEMS THAT THEY BROUGHT UP BEFORE WE MOVE AWAY FROM THAT.
UH, JUST REALLY QUICKLY, I KNOW, UM, JACK HAD MENTIONED THE TIMING AND PROCESS OF IMPROVEMENTS ON CASA GRANDE.
CAN YOU JUST OFFER ANY MORE DETAIL THERE ON, ON THE PROCESS THAT WILL, THAT WILL TAKE PLACE TO DEVELOP THOSE IMPROVEMENTS STAKEHOLDERS INVOLVED AND WHAT THAT TIMING IS MAYBE, UH, RELATIVE TO THIS PROJECT? SURE.
SO WE DID CHECK IN WITH, UM, THE CITY'S ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLANNER, UM, BJORN GRUENBERG PRIOR TO, UH, THE MEETING TODAY.
AND HE INDICATED THAT THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS ARE, UM, ANTICIPATED.
THE PROJECT ITSELF WOULD BE ANTICIPATED FOR IMPLEMENTATION OR CONSTRUCTION IN 2027, BUT PRIOR TO THAT, THEY WOULD BEGIN A DESIGN PROCESS.
SO THE, EVEN THOUGH WE SHOWED THE EXAMPLE OF WHAT THE DESIGN COULD BE, THAT'S, THAT'S JUST A, A SORT OF A VISUAL EXAMPLE.
UM, TYPICALLY A PROCESS LIKE THAT WOULD START WITH, UH, SORT OF A CONCEPTUAL DESIGN MEETING TO SHARE SOME OF THE OBJECTIVES OF THE PROJECT, EXPLORE SOME ALTERNATIVES THAT THEY MIGHT CONSIDER.
THEN THE PROJECT WOULD MOVE INTO, UM, ACTUALLY, UM, RECORDING THE TRAFFIC.
AND SO THEY WOULD PUT THE STRIPS ACROSS THE ROAD AND RECORD TRAFFIC FOR, UH, TYPICALLY A PERIOD OF, OF 24 HOURS FOR A WEEK OR SO.
SO THE DATA THAT THEY WILL USE WILL BE DATA THAT'S COLLECTED THROUGHOUT THE DAY.
I DO KNOW THAT, UM, TRAFFIC STUDIES WILL DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN PEAK PERIODS, AND SO THEY DO LOOK AT TRAFFIC DURING PEAK PERIODS, BOTH IN THE MORNING AND THE AFTERNOON, AND USE THAT TO BALANCE AND WEIGH CONSIDERATIONS ABOUT DESIGN.
SO IT IS, IT IS SENSITIVE TO THE ISSUES, UM, BECAUSE IN MANY AREAS WE DO HAVE, YOU KNOW, COMMUTE TRAFFIC THAT HAPPENS IN A SIMILAR MANNER TOO, UM, TO A SCHOOL, ESPECIALLY HIGH SCHOOL TRAFFIC THAT WOULD HAPPEN IN THE MORNING AND AFTERNOON.
SO ALL OF THAT WILL FACTOR IN.
AND THEN, UM, OF COURSE, THEY'LL WORK WITH DESIGN CONSULTANTS AND, AND TRAFFIC ENGINEERS TO THEN ESTABLISH THE, UH, THE PREFERRED ALTERNATIVES AND PRESENT THOSE TO THE COMMUNITY.
SO I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER OF COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
I WOULD, I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT THERE WOULD BE AT LEAST TWO COMMUNITY MEETINGS PRIOR TO THE DESIGN COMING FORWARD FOR PUBLIC REVIEW.
AND THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING DIRECTLY TO THAT CONCERN, SO THE COMMUNITY KNOWS HOW TO GET INVOLVED AND INJECT FEEDBACK INTO THAT PROCESS.
AND THEN JUST AS ONE MORE, UH, I KNOW BRUCE HAD MENTIONED THE PEP HOUSING CONCERN.
I'M SURE SOMEONE HERE WILL FLAG THAT AS WELL.
BUT IF YOU CAN TALK ABOUT MAYBE, YOU KNOW, DIRECTLY THAT CONCERN ABOUT THREE STORY BUILDINGS SHADING, AND MAYBE JUST REMIND US OF SOME OF THE LIMITATIONS WE HAVE UNDER THE HAA.
I THINK I'LL TURN TO, TO ASK FOR THE, UM, THE PRINCIPAL PLANNERS WHO WORKED ON THE PROJECT.
OLIVIA IRVIN WORKED ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW AT THE, UH, EIR AND I BELIEVE THE EIR CONSIDERED, UM, POTENTIAL SHADOW IMPACTS AND SUCH, AS WELL AS, UH, MR. POWELL WHO'S, WHO'S REVIEWED THE PROJECT FOR, UM, COMPLIANCE AND FOR FINDINGS.
I DO WANT TO NOTE, AS PART OF THAT QUESTION, THERE WAS A COMMENT ABOUT THE WATER FEATURE.
AND, AND I WOULDN'T CONSIDER IT TO BE A WATER FEATURE, IT IS A RETENTION BASIN BECAUSE THE PROJECT IS REQUIRED
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TO MANAGE ALL STORM WATER ON SITE.AND SO THAT RETENTION BASIN NOT JUST CONTRIBUTES TO THAT STORM WATER MANAGEMENT, BUT I WOULD ANTICIPATE REDUCES, UM, POTENTIAL FOR FLOODING THAT THAT MAY HAPPEN IN THE SAME WAY THAT THE RETENTION BASIN IS DONE FOR MCKENNA, THE MCKENNA PROJECT ADJACENT.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MR. IRVIN AND MR. POWELL.
UH, YES, THE COMMISSION AND THE PUBLIC MAY RECALL THAT THIS ITEM, UH, DID COME UP DURING THE EIR REVIEW PROCESS.
AND, UH, THE RESPONSE THAT WAS PROVIDED AT THAT TIME SPOKE TO, UM, THE MATTERS OF THE FACT OF THE GENERAL PLAN, UM, DESIGNATION AND THE ZONING HERE, UH, AND THE COMPLIANCE WITH THE HEIGHT LIMITS.
AND SO THE FACT THAT IT DOES NOT EXCEED THE HEIGHT THAT IT'S ALLOWED, UH, UP TO THAT CAPACITY, THAT HEIGHT LIMIT, THERE WAS NO REQUIREMENT TO DO A SHADE OR SHADOW STUDY.
SO THEY ARE MEETING, UM, AS GREG TALKED ABOUT IN THE STAFF REPORT, THEY ARE MEETING THE PROPERTY LINE SETBACKS TO THE NORTH.
AND SO THAT, UM, THAT IS ENOUGH TO HAVE THEM BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT STANDARD AND, UM, DETERMINE THAT THERE WOULD BE A LESS THAN SIGNIFICANT IMPACT DUE TO, UH, SHADE OR SHADOW AS A RESULT FROM THAT, BECAUSE IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ALLOWED STANDARDS.
NOT ONLY CANNOT THE CITY NOT, UH, JUST DISAPPROVE ANY ENTITLEMENTS WITHOUT A SPECIFIC ADVERSE IMPACT, WHICH IS, HAS A PRETTY ONEROUS DEFINITION.
UH, THE CITY CANNOT CONDITION THE PROJECT THAT MAY POTENTIALLY REDUCE THE SIZE OF THE BUILDINGS OR THE DEVELOPMENTS BY EVEN ONE DENSITY.
UH, UNLESS WE CAN CREATE THOSE SAME FINDINGS ABOUT THE SPECIFIC ADVERSE IMPACT.
SO IT'S A VERY STRICT STANDARD.
UH, I THINK THE STATE DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF TYING YOUR HANDS HERE, RIGHT? SO WE'RE LIMITED IN CHANGING THINGS LIKE HEIGHT IF IT WILL IMPACT THE NUMBER OF UNITS.
SO THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION.
I REALLY WANTED TO, TO FLAG THAT.
SO NOW I WILL ASK FOR VOLUNTEERS ON THE COMMISSION TO START OUR KICKOFF, OUR DISCUSSION.
NICOLA, DO YOU WANNA JUMP IN? UM, I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE, ONE OF THE, UM, PEOPLE WHO SPOKE, SPOKE ABOUT A LABOR POOL AND, AND UTILIZING LOCAL LABOR.
I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN OTHER PROJECTS.
UM, AND I'M WONDERING IF THE, THE DEVELOPERS HAVE A THOUGHT ABOUT, UM, LOOKING FOR OR A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF LOCAL LABOR THAT THEY MIGHT BE UTILIZING.
UM, AND THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY RECOMMEND.
I KNOW WE CAN'T REQUIRE IT, BUT WE HAVE INCLUDED IT IN OTHER PROJECTS.
I'D LOVE TO KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN COMMENT IS WITHIN OUR PURVIEW.
AND THEN IF THE APPLICANT HAS ANY COMMENTARY, UM, I THINK THAT WOULD FALL WITHIN THE RECOMMENDATIONS, NOT MANDATES MM-HMM
AND SO, AND THEN THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.
CAN WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR THAT? AND WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD SAY AND ENCOURAGE, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF THEY COULDN'T OR CHOSE NOT TO, IT WOULD BE NON-BINDING.
AND I'LL JUST ADD THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO ADD TO A POLICY TO THE GENERAL PLAN.
I KNOW THAT'S PRETTY FAR, UH, ON THE PROCESS, BUT I KNOW CITIES, ESPECIALLY BIG CITIES LIKE OAKLAND SF UH, BERKELEY I THINK IS THE NEAREST ONE THAT'S KIND OF ROUGHLY OUR SIZE THAT HAS ONE.
SO IT WOULD BE APPLIED, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY TO THIS DEVELOPMENT, BUT ALL FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS.
AND THERE ARE SOME STREAMLINED HOUSING LAWS.
I BELIEVE SB 35, IT DOESN'T REQUIRE LOCAL, BUT IT DOES REQUIRE PREVAILING WAGES BEING PLACED.
SO YEAH, DON'T WE ALREADY HAVE THAT PREVAILING WAGE CLAUSE IN OUR, WE HAVE LIVING WAGES, WHICH OH, RIGHT.
SO IN ANYTIME THE CITY CONTRACTS WITH A CONTRACTOR ABOVE $10,000, THEY'RE PRO UH, REQUIRED TO HAVE LIVING WAGES.
LOCAL PREVAILING WAGES IS A REQUIREMENT OF THE STATE THAT THE DEVELOPERS NEED TO PAY THEIR CONTRACTORS LIVING WAGES WHEN THEY DO PUBLIC WORK PROJECTS FOR PUBLIC ENTITIES LIKE THE CITY, BUT NOT ON A PRIVATE PROJECT.
BUT THERE IS SOME DISTINCTION LIKE THE SID COMMONS PROJECT WHERE IT HAD, UH, PUBLIC ASPECTS TO PUBLIC ROADS THAT ROUNDABOUT THOSE PARTS OF THE PROJECT NEED TO BE OR PAY PREVAILING WAGES, BUT NOT THE PRIVATE PARTS.
UM, NEXT FOR COMMISSION DIS DISCUSSION, BRENT JESSICA,
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UM, ONE PROPOSED CONDITION OR RECOMMENDED CONDITION, UH, THAT, THAT I'D LIKE TO PUT OUT THERE? UH, IT'S RELATED TO THE QUESTION I ASKED THAT THERE BE, UM, COMPLIANCE WITH THE, THE ORDINANCE THAT'S DESCRIBED IN FOOTNOTE 11 OF THE STAFF REPORT.UM, THAT'S, UH, SECTION 7.120 REGARDING VINYL, UH, CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS.
AND THAT WE RECOMMEND THAT THEY USE NON VINYL WINDOWS, SO NOT PULL IN ALL OF THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS THAT THE CITY'S ADOPTED THAT DO NOT APPLY, BUT JUST THE VINYL WINDOW COPY.
UM, AND THEN WITH REGARD TO THE, THE LANDSCAPING, I KNOW THERE'S SORT OF AN ONGOING CONVERSATION ABOUT, UM, HAVING THE HOA MAINTAIN THE LANDSCAPING, UH, OR RECOMMENDING THAT THE APPROVAL INCLUDE A, A, A RECOMMENDATION FOR THE HOA TO MAINTAIN THAT LANDSCAPING ON, ON, UH, CASA GRANDE, IT APPEARS TO ME THAT THERE'S ALSO A STRIP OF LANDSCAPING ON THE EAST SIDE OF BLOCK TWO THAT IS NOT PART OF THE EXCLUSIVE USE EASEMENTS.
UM, IT'S A VERY THIN RECTANGLE THAT THE LONG SIDES ARE ON THE EAST AND WEST SIDES.
UM, IT'S PARALLEL TO THE SIDEWALK THAT APPEARS TO BE A COMMON AREA STRIP.
AND JUST I'M CURIOUS AS STRAW POLE, YOU KNOW, AS WE HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE HOA MAINTAINING THE, UH, LANDSCAPING ON THE FRONTAGE, WHETHER THAT IS A, AN HOA MAINTAINED STRIP THERE, I, I MIGHT RECOMMEND ASKING THAT QUESTION TO THE APPLICANT TO ASK WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS ARE ABOUT THAT.
AND TO BE CLEAR, THERE'S THE, THE PERPENDICULAR PARKING, A SIDEWALK, A PLANTER WITH A RETAINING WALL, AND THEN THEY'RE THE FACE OF THE DWELLINGS OF LOT 30, WELL, NOT LOT DWELLING 35 AND 46.
SO THAT'S THE AREA WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
I, I THINK IT'D BE INTERESTING TO ASK IF WHAT THEIR INTENTIONS ARE ABOUT THAT, JUST TO BE CLEAR.
'CAUSE THE DRAWINGS, YOU KNOW, JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT PUTTING ON A RECOMMENDED CONDITION THAT'S NOT NEEDED, BECAUSE MAYBE THAT'S MEANT TO BE COVERED BY THAT OR NOT.
PLEASE, APPLICANT, IF YOU CAN JUMP IN AND ANSWER SOME OF THESE, AND I'LL ENCOURAGE OUR COMMISSIONERS TOO, IF YOU THINK IT'S AN APPLICANT QUESTION, FEEL FREE TO INVOKE THEM SO WE WE GET 'EM UP TO THE LOCAL NO, YOU BET.
I'VE GOTTEN IN TROUBLE IN PAST PROJECTS IN OTHER CITIES FOR BREAKING DECORUM AND DURING THE DI DIALOGUE HERE, SO APPRECIATE THE INVITATION TO COME BACK UP.
UM, YEAH, THAT SPACE THAT WOULD BE OUTSIDE OF A PRIVATE YARD FENCE FOR THOSE UNITS, IF I BELIEVE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHERE THE, THE, UH, GUEST PARKING IS LOCATED THERE.
WE'VE ALWAYS ENVISIONED THAT BEING HOA MAINTAINED AS KIND OF THAT COMMON AREA ROADWAY SECTION AND WHATNOT OUTSIDE OF A PRIVATE, UH, EXCLUSIVE USE AREA.
SO WE'VE, WE'VE DEFINITELY PLANNED ON THAT BEING HOA MAINTAINED.
AND, UM, ONE OTHER, CURIOUS WHAT THE OTHER, UH, COMMISSIONERS THINK ABOUT THIS.
ONE OF THE FINDINGS WE'RE MAKING WITH RESPECT TO, I THINK IT IS IN PARAGRAPH, UH, SECTION E FIVE OF THE PROPOSED, UM, RESOLUTION.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PROJECT BEING CONSISTENT WITH SECTION 24.050 E 1D REGARDING BULK HEIGHT AND COLOR OF THE STRUCTURES.
THE DESIGN USES VARIOUS DIFFERENT COLORS IN THE STRUCTURES, UM, AND, UM, WE'RE MAKING A, FINDING THAT, THAT THE COLORS AS PROPOSED ARE CONSISTENT.
I'M CURIOUS ABOUT A, A RECOMMENDATION THAT THESE COLORS REMAIN CONSISTENT, UH, AND THAT AT SOME POINT WHEN THE HOA CHOOSES TO PAINT THE PROJECT, THAT THEY DON'T DECIDE TO PAINT, UM, IN UNIQUELY INCONSISTENT COLORS.
SO I THINK COMMISSIONER, WHAT YOU'RE ASKING IS THAT THE, THE CCNRS WOULD REFLECT A REQUIREMENT THAT THE PAINT COLORS THAT ARE APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION BE IMPLEMENTED FOR THE DURATION OF THE PROJECT.
THAT WOULD BE THE A RECOMMENDATION.
IT LOOKS LIKE THE APPLICANT'S NODDING THAT THEY'RE, UH, OPEN TO THAT SUGGESTION.
UM, I THINK THAT WOULD BE SORT OF STANDARD, BUT I'M REALLY GLAD THEY'RE ASKING THAT THEY CLARIFY.
NO, IT'S A GREAT, IT'S A GREAT POINT BECAUSE WE, WE AS A DEVELOPER AND HOME BUILDER WANT TO TAKE KEEN UH, PERSPECTIVES ON THAT AS WELL, SO THAT IN 10, 15 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD AND WE WANNA SHOW SOMEBODY A PROJECT THAT WE WORKED ON, IT'S LIKE, OH, WHAT IS THAT BRIGHT GREEN OR CHARTRES
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GOING ON RIGHT THERE? SO, UM, YES, OUR, WE DO HAVE STANDARD LANGUAGE IN OUR TEMPLATE CC AND R THAT ARE MODIFIED AND TAILORED TO SPECIFIC PROJECTS WHERE NOT ONLY WITHIN THE FUTURE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, THERE WILL ALSO BE A RESIDENT STAFF, OR NOT STAFFED, BUT RESIDENT HELD, UH, ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE, WHERE THERE'LL BE THE STANDARDS SET FORTH IN THE CCC R THAT EVEN GO DOWN TO THE DETAILS OF PEOPLE NOT HAVING CHECKERBOARD PATTERNS ON THE BACK OF THEIR WINDOW DRAPES AND WHATNOT.SO THERE ISN'T EVEN UNSIGHTLY THINGS COMING THROUGH THERE.
UM, SO YES, WE DEFINITELY AGREE WITH YOU ON MAINTAINING, UH, THE, THE COLOR PALETTE TO BE UNIFORM AND CONSISTENT AND DEFINITELY WILL TAKE THAT INTO MIND WITH REFINING ALL THAT.
UM, A NOTE TO STAFF, MR. POWELL, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO GET THE, THE COLOR, UM, WHAT IS
I'M THINKING OF RIVERBEND, UM, EARLIER IN THE, OR DURING LAST YEAR WHERE THERE WAS A BIT OF CONCERN ABOUT SOME OF THE COLORS THAT WERE USED AND WE WENT THROUGH AN ANALYSIS, UH, TO DETERMINE IF THOSE COLORS IN FACT WERE MATCHING WHAT WAS APPROVED.
SO THOSE ADDITIONAL DATA, UM, SPECIFYING THE COLORS ARE HELPFUL.
YEAH, I WONDERED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE YOU CAN'T REALLY TRUST WHAT COMES OFF YOUR PRINTER.
MY PRINTER MIGHT PRINT TOTALLY DIFFERENTLY THAN SOMEBODY ELSE.
EVEN MY SCREEN COLOR MIGHT BE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
SO I HAD NO WAY TO REALLY JUDGE THE COLORS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A COLOR PALETTE.
AND WE'RE GONNA RETURN TO THE FRONTAGE POINT.
THE CASA GRANDE FRONTAGE POINT.
ARE YOU GIVING ME A PROMPT TO THE CONDITION I PROMISED? THANK YOU.
YEAH, WELL, AND JUST, IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE THREE POTENTIAL CONDITIONS SLASH RECOMMENDATIONS AT THIS TIME.
SO YEAH, PLEASE LET'S JUMP IN WITH THE FRONT YARDS, 'CAUSE THAT WAS GONNA BE SOME OF MY COMMENTARY.
IF YOU GIVE ME A MOMENT, WE'RE GONNA GET IT CONVEYED TO THE PROJECTOR.
SO IN A MOMENT WE'LL HAVE THIS DISPLAYABLE.
UM, THE UPDATE I WANTED TO PROVIDE TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS THAT WE WERE SPEAKING WITH THE APPLICANT BEFORE THE MEETING JUST TO CLARIFY INTENTIONS ABOUT WHAT WOULD BE COVERED BY THE HOA FOR MAINTENANCE AND WHAT WOULD BE UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS.
THROUGH THAT DISCUSSION, WE DISCOVERED THAT THERE WERE SOME AREAS THAT SHOULD BE COVERED AND UH, I HAVE SOME TEXTS THAT I'LL SHOW, BUT FIRST I THINK I WANNA SHOW, UH, AN IMAGE AND BEAR WITH ME.
UM, WELL, I'LL JUST START THE DESCRIPTION.
SO THE AREAS THAT WOULD BE COVERED BY THE HOA BASED ON MY UNDERSTANDINGS FROM WHAT THE APPLICANT SAID TO US TODAY, WOULD INCLUDE FROM THE BACK OF SIDEWALK ALONG CASA GRANDE AND THE PRIVATE PROPERTY LINE.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT SHEET C 15 IN THE CIVIL PLANS, IT SHOWS IT UN SHADED, NOT GREEN, NOT BLUE, WHITE.
AND IN THE APPLICANT'S STATEMENT TODAY, OH GOOD.
WE HAVE THE IMAGE AND IF YOU COULD JUST MAYBE ZOOM IN, IN FRONT OF UNITS 1, 2, 3, FOR EXAMPLE.
OH, THAT'S, YEAH, THAT'S FINE.
SO IF YOU CAN IMAGINE BEHIND THE SIDEWALK IS SORT OF A NO MAN'S LAND THAT'S IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
THE APPLICANT SAID THAT THE HOA WILL BE LANDSCAPING, SORRY, MAINTAIN MAINTAINING THAT LANDSCAPING, AND HE'S NOT GIVING ME A, A STINK EYE.
SO I, I THINK I HAVE THAT RIGHT
SO WE HAVE A CONDITION THAT I'VE WRITTEN UP TO SAY THAT THE PLANS WILL BE REVISED TO SHOW THIS AREA BETWEEN THE SIDEWALK AND THE PRIVATE PROPERTY LINE IN BLUE TO REPRESENT THE HO WOULD BE DOING THE MAINTENANCE.
AND THEN ALSO, I HAVE A QUESTION, WELL, NOT A QUESTION, BUT BASED ON STATEMENTS TONIGHT, THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT THE BEHIND THE SIDEWALK AND THE DWELLINGS, UH, 36 AND 46 RESPONSIBILITY FOR MAINTENANCE THERE.
AND I THINK THE APPLICANT CLARIFIED THAT THEY INTEND FOR THAT AREA TO ALSO BE MAINTAINED BY THE HOA.
SO AT SOME POINT THERE'LL BE A REVISED SHEET C 15 THAT'LL COME TO US THAT'LL SHOW THAT.
AND THEN WE WILL ASK THAT IN THE BILLING PERMIT PHASE, WHENEVER THEY REPRESENT WHO HAS, UH, AUTHORITY FOR MAINTENANCE TO SAY THAT, AND THAT THE CCNRS WOULD BE THEN MODIFIED ALSO TO SAY HOA DOES THAT, THERE'S ONE OTHER AREA TOO THAT'S UNDER QUESTION, AT LEAST IN MY MIND, I CAN'T TELL AT THE TOP HERE.
THE BLUE AND THE GREEN AT THE ON SECTION ONE.
UM, THE BUYER RETENTION AREAS AT THE NORTH MOST, YEAH.
AT THE VERY TOP HERE IS, IS THAT, IS THE GREEN HOA OR IS IT INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS AREA? I'M GLAD YOU ASKED THAT QUESTION BECAUSE IT IS GRAPHICALLY, IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO PICK UP ON THAT.
THE GREEN IS MEANT TO BE INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS.
SO IF I BOUGHT UNIT ONE, THAT'S MY SORT OF AREA TO WATER AND MAINTAIN THE BIO RETENTION, BECAUSE THEY'RE REQUIRED
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FOR THE PROJECT, ARE MAINTAINED BY THE HOA.SO THERE'S SORT OF A FLAT T-SHAPED THING THAT IS AT THE END OF EACH DRY AISLE.
THAT'S A, A LOCALIZED BIO RETENTION PLANTER AREA THAT WOULD BE MAINTAINED BY THE HO.
AND THEN THE OTHER KRINER I HAD IT, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT A FLAT SURFACE AND IT SAYS, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA PLANT ALL THIS AREA, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GONNA BE A LOT OF PLANTS.
'CAUSE THE, THE PLANTING DIAGRAM HAD A LOT OF THINGS, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE, THE, UH, ELEVATED VIEW, THERE'S THE TREE AND THERE'S THESE TINY LITTLE THINGS ON THE GROUND.
UM, BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY LOOK LIKE THERE'S MUCH PLANTING GOING ON.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE, THE, THE PLANNED VIEW, IT LOOKS AMAZING.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S A PROBLEM WITH THE DRAWING.
IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, RENDERING THE GROUND COVER AND THE BUSHES IS NOT AS EASY TO MAYBE DEPICT AS JUST A STRAIGHT UP TREE, AN ICON, BUT THERE WOULD BE SORT OF LAYERS OF BULK THAT WOULD HAPPEN, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY GROUND COVER BUSHES, SHRUBS, AND THEN THE TREES WOULD BE MUCH TALLER.
AND SO, AND IT'S WORTH POINTING OUT THIS, THE LANDSCAPING WASN'T DESIGNED BY ME, FORTUNATELY IT WAS DESIGNED BY A LICENSED LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT.
SO THEY'VE CHOSEN THE PLANTS AND THE SPACING BASED ON SORT OF MATURITY.
YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YOU LOOK AT DRAWINGS AND YOU THINK, WELL, IN FIVE YEARS THOSE TREES ARE GONNA BE INTO EACH OTHER, THAT'S NOT GONNA WORK.
SO THESE WERE ALL SORT OF CHOSEN AND SPACED BASED ON FUTURE CONDITIONS.
SO INITIALLY THERE'S GONNA BE SOME DIRT OR MULCH SHOWING, BUT EVENTUALLY THE PLANTS WILL FILL IN AS THEY'RE, UH, SHOWING THOSE SORT OF, UH, WE'LL CALL IT THE PRETTY PICTURE THAT WAS IN THE PRESENTATION.
CAN YOU PULL UP ONE OF THE ELEVATIONS THAT SHOWS THE CASA GRANDE SIDE YEAH.
I THINK ALSO, WHILE HE'S DOING THAT, I WOULD POINT OUT THAT THIS, THIS DEVELOPER HAS DEVELOPED BOTH A MCKENNA AND BRODY RANCH.
AND SO WE CAN KIND OF SEE IN MCKENNA THE VERY RECENT PLANTING THAT'S BEEN DONE IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
BUT THEN WHEN WE GO OVER AND LOOK AT BRODY RANCH, WE SEE HOW, HOW THOSE SAME PLANTINGS, I WOULD ANTICIPATE IT'S THE SAME APPROACH TO LANDSCAPE HAS EVOLVED, YOU KNOW, WHAT, FIVE PLUS YEARS OR SEVEN PLUS YEARS TO REALLY FILL IN.
IT WAS A QUESTION THAT CAME UP IN A MEETING I WAS AT, WHICH HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS, BUT THEY SAID, OH, I LOOKED AT THOSE PLANS AND THERE'S NOT MUCH GROUND COVER ON THE CASA GRANDE SIDE.
UM, THIS IS WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT.
AND I THINK I UNDERSTATED, THERE IS A LOT OF BUSH AND SHRUB AND GROUND COVER SHOWING IN THIS.
IF, IF WE ZOOM IN AND WE'LL ZOOM IN, MAYBE ONE MORE CLICK, AND IT'S PROBABLY, IT'S PROBABLY JUST THE PLANTING LOOK AND NOT THE FOUR OR FIVE YEARS LATER LOOK RIGHT.
BECAUSE I BELIEVE THE LANDSCAPE PLANS THAT WE LOOK AT IN, IN THE PRELIMINARY LANDSCAPE PLAN IS ACTUALLY SHOWING THE NUMBER OF PLANTS, LIKE IF THEY SPECIFY, YOU KNOW, 80 OF A CERTAIN SHRUB OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEY'LL SHOW THAT EXACT NUMBER AT THE TIME THAT THEY'RE PLANTED.
SO, UM, IT IS, IT IS TRYING TO DO TWO THINGS.
IT'S TRYING TO SHOW THE QUANTITY OF PLANTING, BUT THEN THE ARRANGEMENT OF PLANTING AS WELL.
SO I, I THINK THAT A LANDSCAPE PLAN IS NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO SHOW THE LANDSCAPE AT MATURITY.
YOU MIGHT SEE THAT IN RENDERINGS, RIGHT.
UM, OR PERSPECTIVES THAT WOULD, WOULD REFLECT THE LANDSCAPE, BUT NOT SO MUCH ON THE LANDSCAPE PLAN ITSELF.
CLARIFICATION, UH, CHAIR MOSES, ANYTHING TO ADD? I DON'T THINK I NEED TO SHOW.
UH, WELL THEN I WILL JUMP INTO SOME OF MY COMMENTARY AND A COUPLE OF ASKS FOR RECOMMENDATIONS.
LIKE I SAID, I COUNTED THREE PLUS THE EXPANSION OF THE HOA AREA.
UM, AND I'M GONNA TRY TO CONSOLIDATE A COUPLE OF MINE.
AND ACTUALLY I THINK I'M GONNA START FIRST WITH A COUPLE CLARIFICATIONS WITH THE APPLICANT IF I CAN.
SO IN THAT LITTLE LOOP, UH, OR THE NOT LITTLE, BUT THAT PEDESTRIAN LOOP NEAR THE SOUTHERN BIO RETENTION AREA, WE'VE GOT THE ONE PICNIC TABLE.
UM, IS THERE ANY FLEXIBILITY OR, OR HAVE YOU GUYS EVER THOUGHT ABOUT MORE PROGRAMMING THAT AREA? ONLY BECAUSE I'M THINKING THIS IS A 59 UNIT DEVELOPMENT THAT'S REALLY THE, THE BIGGEST KIND OF OPEN SPACE COMMUNAL SPACE FOR THESE, FOR THE FOLKS TO GATHER AS A COMMUNITY OSTENSIBLY.
UM, SO YEAH, IF YOU CAN JUST WALK THROUGH THE THOUGHT THERE AND IF THERE'S ANY FLEXIBILITY, IF THERE'S ANY ITERATIONS YOU'VE DONE WHERE YOU HAVE MORE PROGRAMMING THERE, THAT KIND OF THING.
AND JUST IT'S, IT'S, AT LEAST FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, AND I KNOW IT MIGHT BE DIFFERENT FROM, FROM THE DEVELOPER'S SIDE, BUT WE ALWAYS WANT TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT OVER PROGRAMMING WITH THESE SORTS OF COMMON AREAS BECAUSE JUST THE WAY THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF REAL ESTATE REQUIRES US TO PUT OUR BUDGETS AND DUES AND RESERVES ALTOGETHER FOR HOW THESE HOAS WILL OPERATE AND FUNCTION IN PERPETUITY.
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THE MORE AMENITIES THAT YOU ADD, THE MORE THOSE DUES INCREASE.I HAVE A 6-YEAR-OLD SON AND A 4-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER MYSELF, WHERE IF I LIVED HERE AND THERE WAS A, A BIG PARK OR SOME EQUIPMENT AND EVERYTHING THAT I WOULD LOVE THEM TO PLAY WITH IT ON.
BUT AS TIME GOES BY, KIDS MOVE AND GRADUATE AND, AND GO ON WITH THEIR OWN LIVES.
AND A A LOT, OFTENTIMES IN THE COMMUNITIES WE DEVELOP, WE SEE THOSE THINGS GET UN UNUSED AND COBWEBS BUILT.
SO OUR INITIAL THOUGHT HERE WAS JUST TO MIMIC KIND OF WHAT WAS DONE OVER AT MCKENNA, WHERE IT'S A, IT'S A WALKING AREA, A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN MEET AT THE PICNIC TABLE OR A PARK BENCH AND USE IT MORE AS A LANDSCAPE FEATURE AND AMENITY.
UM, SO THAT WAS OUR THOUGHT PROCESS THROUGHOUT THAT.
I, I DON'T WANT TO COMMIT TONIGHT TO ADD ADDITIONAL PROGRAMMING JUST YET, BUT DEFINITELY HAPPY TO TAKE A RECOMMENDATION, UM, TO EXPLORE THAT WITH CITY STAFF, UH, THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENT PREPARATION AND PLAN CHECK PRO PROCESS, IF THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES TO GO IN FURTHER DETAIL IN THOSE SPOTS.
UM, BECAUSE ONCE WE'RE FURTHER ALONG, WE'LL BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THE CALIFORNIA DRE TO WORK WITH THEM ON WHAT OUR BUDGET ANALYSIS AND DUE STRUCTURES ARE GONNA REALLY LOOK LIKE.
SO IF WE HAVE SOME ROOM, WE CAN ADD SOME EXTRA THINGS AT A LATER DATE.
UM, AND SOMETHING ELSE I THOUGHT ABOUT CONSIDERING FOR THAT AREA, I THINK IT IS SIX FOOT SIDEWALKS THERE, CORRECT? UH, IS IT SIX FOOT SIDEWALKS ON THAT? I'LL ASK STEVE.
HE'S SMARTER THAN ME ON THOSE THINGS.
IN THE INTERIOR PARKWAY, UH, IN THE, IN THAT OUTDOOR LOOP NEAR THE SOUTHERN BIO RETENTION AREA, IS THAT ALL SIX FOOT? YEAH.
JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THERE'S ENOUGH WIDTH.
WELL, UM, I'M KIND OF PUTTING THAT FORWARD TO OTHER COMMISSIONERS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WORTHY OF A RECOMMENDATION OR CONDITION OF APPROVAL, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT EXPLORED.
UM, AND JUST WHILE YOU'RE UP THERE, LET ME THINK OF A COUPLE OTHER POINTS I WANTED TO RAISE.
UM, SO, UH, YES, I THINK MY TWO BIGGEST RECOMMENDATIONS I WAS GONNA PUT FORWARD HAVE TO DO WITH LANDSCAPING.
I KNOW THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT ISN'T HERE NOW, UM, BUT I JUST WANTED TO PUT FORWARD A, A RECOMMENDATION TO RECONSIDER POTENTIAL OR EXPAND ON THE TREE PALATE IN THIS FRONT YARDS.
UM, OUR BUTAS MARINA IS A GREAT ORNAMENTAL TREE, HAS A MORTALITY ISSUE IN, IN PETALUMA.
I THINK WE'RE AT LIKE A 50% MORTALITY RATE FOR OUR BEUS MARINA.
UM, AND THEN FOR THE EUROPEAN OLIVE, WITHOUT LIKE REALLY PROPER CARE, AND IF WE'RE KIND OF THOSE AREAS IN THE FRONT YARD OR THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE, THE HOMEOWNER, UM, WITHOUT PROPER CARE, THOSE TEND TO BE MORE OF A SHRUB THAN A TREE.
UH, THERE ARE SOME OTHER, THERE ARE SOME OTHER OPTIONS.
UM, CHINESE ELMS, SOME OTHERS.
SO I WANT TO, I, I WANT TO RAISE WITH THIS GROUP, I THINK WE SHOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO ASK OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT TO THINK ABOUT EXPANDING IN THAT AREA.
UH, AND WHAT OTHER TREES COULD POTENTIALLY GO IN THERE GIVEN SOME OF THE RESTRICTIONS.
UM, ALSO HAVE A POINT I WANTED TO MAKE ABOUT CONSIDERING A 60% NATIVE PLANT REQUIREMENT.
I'M A BIG BELIEVER IN THE FORM IS REALLY IMPORTANT, AND IF A NATIVE DOESN'T FIT THE BILL, DON'T FORCE IT IN THERE IF IT'S NOT GONNA DO WHAT WE NEED.
UM, BUT SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.
SO I'M, I'M THINKING OF THESE ALL AS ONE BIG RECOMMENDATION TO EXPLA EXPAND THIS FRONT YARD TREE PALLET, UH, SELECTIONS TO CONSIDER A 60% NATIVE PLANTING TARGET FOR PLANTINGS ACROSS THE SITE.
AND THEN THE QUESTION FOR YOU WAS IN THOSE NORTHERN BIO RETENTION AREAS, AGAIN, ANY ITERATION WHERE WE HAD TREES IN THOSE, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THEY'RE NOT DOING A LIFT.
AND STEVE, YOU'RE SHAKING YOUR HEAD NO, NO, NO, NO.
THE, THE BIOFILTRATION AREAS, ESPECIALLY WITH HOW SMALL THOSE ONES ARE.
NOT A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES TO PUT TREES IN THEM, BUT THE REST OF YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS, DEFINITELY HAPPY TO, UH, TAKE THOSE WITH SINCERITY AND WORK WITH STAFF AND STEVE'S LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT ANDREA, ON THAT PROCESS WITH OUR, WITH OUR TEAM.
WE'D LOVE TO DO AS MUCH NATIVE AS WE CAN OURSELVES.
AND THEN JUST THE OTHER NUANCE THAT WE GET STUCK INTO WHEN WE WORK ON THE CONSTRUCTION LEVEL DRAWINGS FOR LANDSCAPE PLANS IS WILLOW OR WATER EFFICIENCY LANDSCAPE ORDINANCES AND EVERYTHING.
AND A LOT OF TIMES NATIVES DON'T ALWAYS ALLOW THE DROUGHT TOLERANT LEVELS, BUT TO THE GREATEST EXTENT, FEASIBLE, WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO WORK WITH EVERYBODY ON THAT TO TAKE YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND INCORPORATE THEM WHERE WE CAN THERE.
AND I'M NOT MARRIED TO THE PERCENTAGE, I JUST KNOW THAT'S A BEST PRACTICE IN OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.
SO I'LL LET STAFF CRAFT THAT AS THEY THINK IS APPROPRIATE, NOT TOO RESTRICTIVE.
UH, SO THAT'S ONE OF MY RECOMMENDATIONS COMBINING LANDSCAPING.
AND WE CAN REMOVE THE POINT ABOUT NORTHERN BIO, UH, THE NORTH MOST BIO RETENTION AREAS, UM, IN THE ARCHITECTURAL SIDE.
LOOKING AT THE TRIPLEXES, OBVIOUSLY THEY KIND OF ARE TAPERED AT THE BOTTOM A LITTLE BIT RELATIVE TO THE OTHER FLOORS.
I WONDERED IF YOU GUYS HAD EXPLORED ANY ARCHITECTURAL DETAILS LIKE CORBELS OR BRACKETS, UM, COMING FROM THOSE LOWER AREAS TO THE UPPER TO KIND OF MAKE THAT A NATURAL PROGRESSION, ADD A LITTLE INTEREST.
IS THAT SOMETHING YOU CONSIDERED? IS THAT SOMETHING YOU'RE OPEN TO? HOPEFULLY THIS WON'T BE A MASSIVE BUDGET ITEM, BUT I THINK IT WOULD GO A LONG WAY TO MAKING THESE REALLY STAND OUT AND LAST INTO
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THE FUTURE.UM, AS YEAH, NO, THE GREAT, GREAT COMMENT, AND I THINK IT JUST COMES DOWN TO KIND OF THE ARCHITECTURAL THEME, WHEREAS MR. POWELL MENTIONED THERE ARE DIFFERENT VARIATIONS OF THE SIMILAR PLAN AND BUILDING TYPES, BUT I'D SAY THE OVERALL THEME WAS TRYING TO COME UP WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A CONTEMPORARY STYLE ARCHITECTURE WHERE YOU WOULDN'T SEE A LOT OF THOSE CORE BOWLS AND OTHER SORT OF GINGERBREAD ELEMENTS ON THE EXTERIOR.
UM, JUST TRYING TO STICK WITH THAT THEME.
BUT, YOU KNOW, TO THE EXTENT WE GET IN THE CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS WHERE AS THE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THAT TRANSITION ON THE EL ELEVATIONS IS BASED ON SOME CANTILEVERING FOR LIVABLE SPACE CHANGES ON THE SECOND AND THIRD FLOORS.
UM, HAPPY TO EXPLORE IT, BUT DEFINITELY WANT TO TRY TO TALK TO OUR ARCHITECT A LITTLE BIT MORE TO MAKE SURE HE WOULDN'T BE TOO OFFENDED ON
AND OF COURSE THERE'S A, A BIG UNIVERSE OF WHAT THOSE COULD LOOK LIKE.
JUST THINKING OF SOMETHING TO ADD VISUAL INTEREST WITHOUT MESSING WITH WINDOWS THAT ARE AN EXPENSIVE ELEMENT OR SOME OF THESE OTHER ELEMENTS THAT ARE, ARE A LITTLE BIT HARDER TO CHANGE.
UM, AND THE OTHER ARCHITECTURAL PIECE WAS, UM, I WANTED TO CONSIDER, AND THIS MIGHT BE TOO GENERAL, WAS A WAY TO CELEBRATE THE ENTRYWAYS.
AS WE KNOW, THAT'S A PRETTY, UM, WHAT DO I WANNA SAY THAT THAT'S A FEATURE THAT OFTEN HAS AN OUTSIZED IMPACT OF THOSE ENTRYWAYS, WHETHER THAT'S CHANGING COLORS OF DOORS, UM, DIFFERENT MATERIALITY ON THE DOORS, UH, SOMETHING AROUND THOSE, UH, AGAIN, THAT'S THE TERMS OF THE USER EXPERIENCE.
THOSE CAN HAVE A REALLY BIG IMPACT.
SO I, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TOO BROAD TO SAY, THINK ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO TO ENHANCE OR CELEBRATE THOSE ENTRYWAYS, BUT PUT THAT AS A VERY BASE LEVEL RECOMMENDATION TO BE BOUNCED OFF OF ARCHITECTS AND THE, AND THE PROJECT TEAM ABOUT THAT I WASN'T CLEAR WAS THAT THE DWELLINGS THAT FACE CASA GRANDE? SO IT'D BE THREE DWELLINGS IN THE MULTIFAMILY OR I, I THINK ACROSS THE DESIGN TYPES, I THINK FOR THE TRIPLEXES AND THE DUPLEXES.
I THINK, UH, AGAIN, SEEING WHAT WE CAN DO, THAT, THOSE ARE AN AREA THAT REALLY POP AND I'M STEALING LINES FROM DAVID BAKER ARCHITECTS, BUT THOSE ENTRYWAYS CAN REALLY MAKE A DEVELOPMENT POP AND DON'T REQUIRE AS MUCH CHANGE AS SOME OTHER ELEMENTS.
SO I'M TRYING TO THINK OF SMALLER ELEMENTS WE CAN CHANGE THAT HAVE A, A BIGGER BANK FOR OUR ARCHITECTURAL BOOK.
AND THIS IS FOCUSED ON POP ADDED FOR THE ENTRIES.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE WORD, BUT YEAH, JUST, UH, THAT'S THE ENHANCING, ENHANCING THE ENTRIES, CELEBRATING THE ENTRY WAYS.
I, I THINK POP IS IN THE ARCHITECTURAL DICTIONARY, SO GOOD.
I I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING US TO PURSUE FOR SURE.
WELL, WE GOT THE TECHNICAL TERM DOWN
AND THEN PROBABLY AN AREA THAT I AM SURE YOU GUYS HAVE REVIEWED AD NAUSEUM.
UH, BUT I WANTED TO BRING UP THOSE FRONT YARD AREAS AND YOU'VE ALREADY EXPANDED THE HOA AREA TO MAKE SURE ALL THE COMMON SPACE IS COVERED, WHICH IS EXCELLENT.
BUT IN LOOKING AT BOTH THE BRODY RANCH AND THE MCKENNA PROJECTS, I THINK SOME, THERE IS A LITTLE STORY THERE OF DIFFERENT HOA APPROACHES.
I THINK BRODY RANCH, AND YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, I BELIEVE BRODY RANCH HAS THAT FRONT AREA MANAGED BY HOA, THE FRONT YARD FOR THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS, WHEREAS MCKENNA IS NOT.
AND I THINK WHATEVER YOU THINK ABOUT THOSE DEVELOPMENTS, I THINK BRODY RANCH HAS BEEN REALLY SUCCESSFUL IN KIND OF A LONGSTANDING BEAUTIFUL FRONT LANDSCAPED AREA.
AND I THINK AS WE'VE SEEN, I'M ON TREE COMMITTEE AS WELL AS WE, WE'VE SEEN WITH ANY LANDSCAPING AND PLANTING A UNIFIED EFFORT IS ALWAYS GONNA LEAD TO A BETTER COHESIVE RESULT THAN RELYING ON INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS.
UM, CAN YOU EXPLAIN, I MEAN, IS THERE ANY OPENNESS TO EXPLORE THAT FRONT AREA HAVING ANY HOA, DO YOU THINK IT'S SUFFICIENTLY COVERED IN THE CCNRS AND MAYBE YOU CAN EXPAND ON WHAT THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER TREE WE END UP WITH YEP.
IT DOESN'T FALL INTO DISREPAIR ISN'T A, ISN'T AN ISSUE.
NO, AND THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION BECAUSE YOU ARE CORRECT AT BRODY RANCH IN THAT COMMUNITY, THE FRONT YARDS ARE MAINTAINED BY THE HOA AND THE, THE STORY BEHIND THAT REASON ON WHY THAT WAS DONE AS A STANDARD FOR THAT COMMUNITY IS BECAUSE WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH OUR PLANNING PROCESS WITH CITY STAFF AND MR. FRA AND TEAM, UH, WE CAME TO FIND THAT THAT AREA THAT'S NOW A BEAUTIFUL WETLAND PRESERVE GOING AGAINST THE TRAIN TRACKS WAS A SEASONAL WETLAND.
SO LOST A LOT OF DEVELOPABLE AREA IN AN AREA WHERE WE COULD HAVE PUT A BASE IN FOR BIO BIO, UH, C3 BIOFILTRATION AREAS WITH LOSING ALL THAT LAND AREA, BUT STILL TRYING TO PRESERVE THE DENSITY TO FOLLOW THE CITY'S R FOUR AND R FIVE DESIGNATIONS FOR THAT SPECIFIC PROPERTY.
WE WORKED VERY CREATIVELY WITH MR. FRAKE TO INCORPORATE THE C3 BIOFILTRATION AREAS WE NEEDED IN ALL OF THE FRONT YARDS, WHICH IS A KEY PIECE OF INFRASTRUCTURE FOR BRODY RANCH.
SO THAT IS WHY THAT ONE WAS UNEQUIVOCALLY AND AN EASY DECISION TO MAKE WHERE THE HOA IS GONNA MAINTAIN THOSE FRONT YARDS BECAUSE THEY ALL HAVE THOSE BASINS TUCKED INTO AND INCORPORATED WITHIN THAT LANDSCAPING.
UM, FROM MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCES ON SITTING ON ALL THE DIFFERENT HOAS OF NEW COMMUNITIES THAT WE'VE DEVELOPED, UM, I
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HAVE FOUND THAT THE CCNRS AND THE HOA ENFORCEMENT IS AN EFFECTIVE TOOL, ESPECIALLY IF THE CITY NEEDS TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THE HOA OR SOMEBODY LIKE THAT TO GET GOING ON THINGS.UM, JUST BECAUSE WITH THE CURRENT ENVIRONMENT, WITH THE STATE DRE AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, REALLY HESITANT RIGHT NOW JUST TO SAY ALL THE FRONT YARDS ARE GONNA BE MAINTAINED BY THE HOA AT THIS STAGE OF TIME, JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO EXACERBATE THE HOA DUES JUST 'CAUSE THESE DAYS, UM, TO AFFORD A HOME.
IT'S NOT JUST WHAT YOUR UPFRONT PURCHASE PRICE IS.
IT'S WHAT ARE YOUR PROPERTY TAXES, WHAT ARE YOUR MAINTENANCE COSTS, WHAT ARE YOUR HOA DUES, AND FIGURING OUT WHAT PEOPLE'S MONTHLY BUDGET CAN REALLY AFFORD.
UM, SO WE'RE NOT CLOSING THE DOOR FOR CREEKWOOD TO HAVE THE FRONT YARDS MAINTAINED BY THE HOA THAT WILL BE HERE IN THE FUTURE.
UM, WE WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAINTAIN SOME FLEXIBILITY ON OUR END TO GET SOME MORE INFORMATION ONCE WE'RE FURTHER ALONG WITH THE PROCESS WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF REAL ESTATE TO SEE IF THERE'S ROOM IN THE HOA BUDGET WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, EXORBITANTLY BREAKING, UM, PEOPLE'S BUDGETS FOR HOME OWNERSHIP HERE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT CLARIFICATION ON THOSE PROJECTS.
UM, I, I GUESS I WOULD ASK STAFF, IS THERE ANY WAY TO PUT THIS IN THE LIGHTEST POSSIBLE TERMS ALONG WITH ANY OTHER LANGUAGE ABOUT THE HOA TO, YOU KNOW, EXPLORE AS TO THE EXTENT FEASIBLE ALL THE QUA QUALIFYING LANGUAGE AND HAVE THAT DOOR OPEN AND, AND A SIGNAL PREFERENCE FOR HAVING THE FRONT YARDS? HOA MANAGED, I MINORED IN THE USE OF CONDITIONAL, SO, UM, THAT DIDN'T WORK.
I'M WRITING THINGS I CONSIDER TO THE EXTENT PRACTICAL AT THE DISCRETION OF THE APPLICANT, AND WE'RE GONNA DISPLAY THESE ON THE SCREEN AND THEY'RE, PLEASE CONSIDER THEM DRAFT.
WE CAN REFINE THEM TONIGHT IF YOU SEE SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, I MISSED THE TARGET OR IF YOU GOT A BETTER SUGGESTION, BUT SO FAR I'VE WRITTEN CONSIDER HAVING THE HOA MAINTAIN ALL OF THE LANDSCAPING THAT IS SHOWN WITHIN THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.
SO IT'S CONSIDERED, IT'S NOT A MANDATE DOESN'T USE SHALL, UH, SO IT OPENS THE DOOR AND IT SHOWS A RECORD, YOU KNOW, A PREFERENCE TO THE APPLICANT AND GOING FORWARD THAT THE CITY COULD RELY ON MAYBE TO ADOPT A POLICY TO SAY, FROM NOW ON, LET'S JUST MAKE THIS A MANDATE.
AND, YOU KNOW, JUST FOR THE DEVELOPER, I THINK MAKING A STEP, A MOVE LIKE THAT DOES ENHANCE, YOU KNOW, DENOVA HAS A LOT OF DEVELOPMENTS IN OUR TOWN.
WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING HERE TO BUILD, UH, AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO TO BRING IT A STEP UP IN TERMS OF EITHER ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN, LANDSCAPE DESIGN IS SUCH A BENEFIT TO OUR COMMUNITY AND REALLY MAKES YOUR DEVELOPMENT STAND OUT.
SO, UH, JUST WANT TO RAISE THAT AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO, TO LOOK AT THAT IF IT'S AT ALL FEASIBLE.
UM, I THINK THE LAST PIECE THAT I HAD WAS JUST REGARDING LIGHTING.
I, YOU KNOW, I WOULD PUT FORWARD SOME KIND OF RECOMMENDATION TO EXPLORE MOTION TRIGGERED LIGHTING ON WALKWAYS, UM, TO EXPLORE DARK SKY COMPLIANT LIGHTING OPTIONS ALONG THE RIPARIAN, UM, HABITAT THERE AT THE CREEK FOR COMMISSIONERS.
THAT'S THE ONE I'M LEAST PASSIONATE.
I MEAN, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, BUT, UH, THE OTHER TWO I WOULD, I WOULD ELEVATE IN TERMS OF PREFERENCE AND THE ONES WE ALREADY HAD.
UH, BUT I JUST THINK IT'S, IT'S WORTH MENTIONING TO GIVE, GIVE CREDENCE TO THAT AREA, UH, AND GIVE THAT FLEXIBILITY FOR THE DEVELOPERS STILL.
UM, SO WHILE, WHILE GREG'S CRAFTING THROUGH THESE, I ALSO JUST WANT TO ELEVATE FOR STAFF.
UM, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M, AND YOU'VE ALREADY SPOKEN TO IT, BUT I'M HOPING THESE ARE BUILDING INTO OUR FUTURE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT DESIGN GUIDELINES, OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS.
IT'S SO APPARENT NOW HOW IMPORTANT THAT'S GONNA BE IN THE FUTURE.
I, BEFORE THIS MEETING, I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THESE CHANGES IN JANUARY AND HOW MANY HOUSING PROJECTS NOW ARE GONNA DEFAULT TO WHAT WE HAVE ON THE BOOKS.
THAT IS VERY SPECIFIC OBJECTIVE STANDARDS.
UM, SO I KNOW I'VE SPOKEN BEFORE ABOUT DESIGN GUIDELINES AND LIKE A LOOKBOOK OF DESIGNS WE WANT, BUT WE NEED TO REALLY GET INTO THE WEEDS ON OBJECTIVE STANDARDS AND WHAT ARE THOSE, YOU KNOW, NONS SITE SPECIFIC GUIDELINES WE HAVE IN PLACE TO ENSURE WE GET GOOD DESIGN.
I, I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE A HUGE FOCUS, UH, IN THE GENERAL PLAN, UH, BOTH LAND USE AND, AND ELSEWHERE.
UH, SO I'VE PUT FORWARD I GUESS THREE MORE RECOMMENDATIONS SLASH CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY THEN.
OH, AND THE LAST POINT I WANTED TO MAKE ACTUALLY JUST WITH STAFF.
UH, IT HAD BEEN FLAGGED FOR ME RECENTLY SOMETIMES WITH THE LANDSCAPING PLANS AND OTHER ELEMENTS, UH, SOMETIMES WE HAVE A SLIGHT SPAR DISCONNECT IF FOR SOME REASON THINGS HAVE TO CHANGE SLIGHTLY BETWEEN NOW AND IMPLEMENTATION, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING THE BEST WE CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE STICKING AS CLOSE TO THIS SPAR HEARING AS POSSIBLE.
UH, I JUST RECENTLY MET WITH SOMEONE IN THE MASTER GARDENERS WHO WAS EXPLAINING TO ME SOME DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAD DIFFERENT PLANTINGS WHEN THEY HAD BEEN PAYING ATTENTION TO SPAR.
UM, SO I JUST WANT US TO REALLY DIG DOWN ON THAT, ESPECIALLY FOR PROJECTS LIKE THIS THAT ARE HIGH VISIBILITY WHERE WE HAVE A, A GOOD DEVELOPER WE'RE WORKING WITH.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER COMMENTS BEFORE WE SEE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL ON SCREEN? ANYTHING
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ELSE YOU WANNA BRING UP? POINTS, LITTLE SOAPBOX LIKE I DID ANYONE? OKAY, GREG, THEN WHENEVER YOU'RE READY, WE CAN PUT THOSE CONDITIONS ON SCREEN.AND I, WHILE WE WAIT FOR THESE THINGS TO RENDER, UM, I APPRECIATE THE PATIENCE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE C AND THE COMMUNITY WHILE WE'RE DOING SOMETHING THAT I THINK THAT'S VERY DIFFERENT.
THESE RECOMMENDATIONS AND SORT OF SH SHOULDS INSTEAD OF SHALLS ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
I'VE TRIED TO CAPTURE, UH, THE CONDITIONAL IN THIS THAT IT'S NOT A MANDATE THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, SUBJECT TO REALLY, IT'S THE APPLICANT'S, UM, I GUESS DESIRE AND ABILITY TO IMPLEMENT THESE THINGS.
UM, SO WE HAVE SEVEN OR EIGHT CONDITIONS THAT ARE SH SHOULDS ADDED TONIGHT.
THE FIRST ONE, HOWEVER, IS A SHALL BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THE APPLICANT SAID, YES, I'M DOING THAT.
AND THAT'S REGARDING THE LANDSCAPING BEHIND THE SIDEWALK AND THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE LAN CASA, AND THEN BEHIND THE SIDEWALK AND UNITS 36 AND 46 SHALL BE UP TO THE HOA TO MAINTAIN.
SO I'VE TRIED TO CAPTURE THAT AND THEN TO PUT IN SOME SORT OF MECHANISMS TO HAVE IT A NEW DRAWING BE PRESENTED TO THE CITY, HAVE THE CCNRS REFLECT THAT, ET CETERA.
UM, I THINK THAT CONDITION'S WELL WRITTEN, BUT WE MAY REVISE A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE WON'T CHANGE THE INTENTION.
UH, CONDITIONS TWO THROUGH NINE ARE WHAT I TYPED UP TONIGHT AS WE WERE LISTENING TO YOU TALK.
UM, TWO ISN'T MY FAVORITE YET BECAUSE I HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO WRITE IT ALL, BUT THE POINT I HEARD WAS 10, 15, 20 YEARS FROM NOW, LET'S KEEP THE PALETTE THAT WAS SHOWN IN THE PLANS FOR COLORS GOING FORWARD.
AND THEN, UM, ANDREW ADDED THAT WE SHOULD ALSO HAVE THE MAKE AND MODEL, IF YOU WILL, FOR THE PAINT SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY TIE IT BACK TO SOMETHING INSTEAD OF, UM, WHAT A PHOTOCOPIER OR WHAT A PRINTER GENERATES.
I LEARNED THAT IT'S REFERRED TO AS THE PAINT COLOR FORMULA.
SO WE'LL, WE'LL ADD THAT NUANCE TO IT.
UM, TO GET TO THE DARK SKY, I DIDN'T ADD THAT IN THERE YET, BUT, UM, I SHARE THE CONCERN.
SO I WROTE UP FOR PATHWAY AND BUILDING LIGHTING THAT FACES ADOBE CREEK OR WITHIN THE BIO RETENTION AREA, CONSIDER LIGHT PLACEMENT AND HEIGHT TO MINIMIZE SPILL SPILLOVER LIGHTING TO THE ADOBE CREEK RE REPAIRING CORRIDOR.
AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THE EXTENT PRACTICABLE CONSIDER LIGHTING THAT, OOPS,
AND I KNOW SOME PEOPLE DON'T LIKE THE MOTION BECAUSE THEN IT'S ON, IT'S OFF, IT'S ON, IT'S OFF.
BUT THERE MIGHT BE ANOTHER WAY TO DO THAT THAT THEY, UM, BRIGHTER AND THEN LESS BRIGHT, YOU KNOW, SO THERE'S A VARIATION THERE.
SO IT'S NOT GOING FROM NOTHING, BUT IT'S JUST SORT OF A DIM AND THEN GOES BRIGHTER.
AND YOU SEE THAT A LOT IN PARKING GARAGES.
UM, AVOID THE USE OF VINYL WINDOWS, THAT'S A SHOULD.
IT'D BE GREAT IF YOU DID IT, BUT IT'S NOT A MANDATE.
UM, CONSIDER EXPANDING THE LIST OF TREES TO BE PLANTED IN THE FRONT YARDS AND CONSIDER REPLACING THE ALBERTAS MARINA WITH A SPECIES PROVEN.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS TOO WORDY, BUT I HEARD YOU SAY THAT IT DOESN'T REALLY WORK.
SO MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT COULD BE DONE.
AND I CAN STRIKE THAT LAST PART TO JUST SAY EXPAND THE LIST.
OR YOU MIGHT SAY, UM, EXPAND, CONSIDER EXPANDING LIST OF TREES WE PLANT IN THE FRONT YARDS AND CONSIDER, UH, REPLACING, MAYBE YOU CAN JUST SAY, UH, REPLACING OUR BEUS MARINA AND I'M FORGETTING THE LIA, BUT THE EUROPEAN OLIVE AH, GOT IT.
UM, AS OPTIONS AND, AND WITHOUT HAVING TO SAY THE SPECIES PROVEN TO LIVE LONGER, UM, GOT IT DONE MORE OR LESS.
CAN WE JUST, UH, COULD WE JUST REFER TO A MORE HARDY SPECIES OR, OR I MEAN, 'CAUSE DOES THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS? WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING ABOUT HARDINESS OR LONG LIVED.
UM, I WOULD SAY MAYBE, UH, WITH MAXIMIZING CANOPY COVERAGE, BECAUSE THAT'S ALWAYS THE GOAL.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, AND THAT WE COULD ADD THAT IN THERE TO MAXIMIZE CANOPY COVERAGE.
AGAIN, THIS IS ALL WITH THE BLESSING OF A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT WHO KNOWS FAR MORE THAN I DO COVERAGE.
AND SO IT'S, UH, TO MAXIMIZE THE CANOPY AND MAXIMIZE LIFESPAN.
OKAY, SO I'VE TYPED THAT IN MY DOCUMENT.
SO, UH, ALSO INCREASE THE USE OF NATIVES TO BE AT LEAST 60%.
THAT'S A, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A REQUEST, IT'S NOT A MANDATE.
UM, CONSIDER ADDING CORBELL OR BRACKETS TO THE EIGHT THREE STORY BUILDINGS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
OR WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO GO FURTHER OR OTHER DETAIL?
I, I'D SAY YOU COULD DO SECOND FLOOR TO THIRD FLOOR, JUST ANYWHERE WHERE THERE'S THAT TRANSITION AND OVERHANG.
YEAH, JUST A WAY TO ADDRESS THAT AGAIN, WITH THE APPLICANT PROJECT TEAM DOING THE FULL REVIEW TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT'S FEASIBLE, PRACTICAL
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WITH THE ORIGINAL DESIGN VISION AND ALL OF THAT.I THINK WE CAN WORK ON THAT PRIOR TO DELIVERING THE, UH, RESOLUTION FOR SIGNATURE AND, UM, AND REFINE THAT A BIT MORE AS WELL AS WITH INPUT FROM THE APPLICANT.
UH, SO CONSIDER ADDING INTEREST TO BETTER DEFINE OR ENHANCE THE ENTRIES TO EACH DWELLING.
AND THEN CONSIDER HAVING THE HOAA MAINTAIN ALL OF THE LANDSCAPING THAT IS SHOWN WITHIN THE LANDSCAPE PLANS.
IF I'VE MISSED SOMETHING OR IF YOU WANNA SUGGEST EDITS, I'M HAPPY TO TYPE.
ANY EDITS CHANGES FROM COMMISSIONERS NICOLA? UM, WE'RE NOT GONNA MAKE A RE RECOMMENDATION THAT THEY, UM, LOOK INTO THE FEASIBILITY OF HAVING ANY OF THE HOUSING A DA THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT.
AND I VISITABILITY OR I DON'T REMEMBER SOMETHING.
UH, DID WE ASK THE APPLICANT THAT QUESTION BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE, WE BOOKMARKED THAT TO BRING THAT UP AND I DON'T REMEMBER IF THAT WAS ADDRESSED TO THEM.
AND IF IT WASN'T, CAN WE DIRECT THAT TO THEM, WHAT THEIR INTENTIONS ARE FOR VISIT, UH, ADAPTABILITY OR JUST STRAIGHT UP? IT'S ALREADY, YEAH.
I THINK THE ANSWER HAD TO DO WITH A DA, BUT YEAH, PLEASE.
AND APOLOGIES IF I WASN'T, UH, CLEAR EARLIER IN THE DISCUSSION THIS EVENING, BUT THE CALIFORNIA BUILDING CODE FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION DESIGNS AND EVERYTHING ALREADY DICTATE WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN WITH ACCESSIBILITY AND WHAT HAVE YOU, UH, FOR THE BUILDING DESIGNS.
SO WE'LL MOST CERTAINLY BE FOLLOWING THE CALIFORNIA BUILDING CODE FOR ADAPTABILITY AND ACCESSIBILITY AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF.
SO YOU'RE, I'M SORRY, I KEEP FORGETTING TO TURN MY MICROPHONE OFF.
UM, SO YOU'RE FOR SURE DOING THAT BECAUSE NONE OF THE DESIGNS THAT I SAW HAVE A DA, THE, THE BUILDING CODE IS VERY NUANCED DEPENDING ON DENSITIES.
SO OBVIOUSLY A THREE STORY TOWNHOME CAN'T BE ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYBODY.
SO THERE ARE NUANCES AND CARVE OUTS IN THE BUILDING CODE THAT PROVIDE EXCEPTIONS TO BUILDING TYPE AND DENSITY TYPES.
UM, BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU, WE'LL BE SURE TO FOLLOW THE APPLICABLE BUILDING CODE AT THE TIME.
'CAUSE WE WOULD LIKE TO GET BUILDING PERMITS TO BUILD THESE THINGS.
THAT IS ALL VERY THOROUGHLY COVERED IN THERE, I ASSURE YOU.
THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
AND THANK YOU FOR RAISING THAT.
AND WE'RE GONNA ASK FOR THEM TO, TO, UM, ARE WE GONNA RECOMMEND TO THEM THAT THEY CONSIDER LOCAL LABOR POOL? THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING THAT.
AND THAT WOULD BE HIRING FROM, GOT IT.
ARE YOU TYPING IT IN? YEAH, I'LL LET YOU DO IT.
YOU PROBABLY, THAT'LL BE A NUMBER 10 ADDED TONIGHT.
SO THAT FINAL ONE IS SHOWING UP NOW DOWN THERE IN THE HIGHLIGHT.
NICOLA, DO WE HAVE THE NOD OF APPROVAL? MM-HMM
SO TO ME, THOSE 10 LOOK GOOD AGAIN, COMMISSIONERS JUMP UP IF YOU SEE ANY ISSUES.
OTHERWISE, AT THIS POINT, I THINK WE WOULD WAIT FOR OR WELCOME A MOTION TO PASS THE RESOLUTION WITH OUR NEW CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL RECOMMENDATIONS.
I, I DO HAVE, UM, A CONCERN ABOUT ADDING THE ENTIRE LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE RECOMMENDATION.
I UNDERSTAND IT'S A RECOMMENDATION, UM, BUT HOWEVER MUCH ADDITIONAL COST IS ADDED FOR THE HOA, UH, DOES AFFECT AFFORDABILITY AS, AS WAS WAS MENTIONED BY THE APPLICANT.
UM, UH, SPEAKING FROM EXPERIENCE SERVING ON MY OHA, MY HOA BOARD, UM, THE COST OF INSURANCE ALONE HAS BEEN GOING UP QUITE DRAMATICALLY.
UM, AND I WOULD, UM, BE LOATH TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, NOT HAVE THAT, UH, SENSITIVITY, UM, FOR WHAT A VERY LARGE CHUNK,
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UM, UH, A BURDEN COULD BE ON HOMEOWNERS, ESPECIALLY THE, UM, UH, MEDIUM IN, UH, MEDIAN INCOME AFFORDABILITY, AND THEN THE LOW INCOME AFFORDABILITY UNITS, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, SO TO THE EXTENT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN MINIMIZE WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING FOR, FOR THE HOAS TO, TO, TO BEAR IN TERMS OF COST, HELPS TO ENHANCE, UH, AFFORDABILITY, UH, OF THE HOUSING.UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY, I I I, I DO HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT HOW, HOW WE FRAME WHAT WE WANT THE HOA TO DO.
I'VE BEEN SITTING IN THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS A LOT AND THE LEDS HAVE COME UP.
UM, AND IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT THAT COULD HELP THE COST OF COVERING THAT ALL AROUND APPLICATION FOR THE, UM, GROUND COVERS OR THE GROUND SURFACES THAT ARE WITHIN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN? DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT ON THAT? BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THAT.
WELL, I DON'T HAVE A COMMENT ON IT,
IT'S, I THINK IT'S WORTH, WORTH CONSIDERING AND, AND THINKING THROUGH, YOU KNOW, AS WE START TO CRAFT POLICY GOING FORWARD.
UM, BUT, BUT TO COMMISSIONER NEWELL'S POINT, AND AS THE, UH, 2024, YOU KNOW, HOUSING ELEMENT ANNUAL PROGRESS REPORT IS, IS BEING DRAFTED AND WE'LL COME FORWARD AND THEN LATER THIS SPRING WE'LL HAVE A, UH, HOUSING WORKSHOP WITH THE COMMISSION.
UH, I DO, I DO WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT IT IS APPROPRIATE TO BE SENSITIVE TO THE COST OF NOT JUST HOUSING CONSTRUCTION, BUT ALSO THE LONG-TERM MAINTENANCE COST OF HOUSING.
UM, IT DOES CONTINUE TO BE A CHALLENGE TO DEVELOP HOUSING EVEN WITH STATE REGULATIONS THAT REALLY HAVE PRIMARILY THE EFFECT OF NOT SO MUCH REDUCING COST, BUT, BUT STREAMLINING THE PROCESS AND REDUCING RISK FOR THE DEVELOPER AS IT RELATES TO, UH, THE PLANNING DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
AND SO WE STILL ARE RECOGNIZING THAT THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS, ESPECIALLY IN THE NORTH BAY AREA, UM, ARE, ARE NOT, ARE AS HIGH AS THE OVERALL BAY AREA AND CONTINUE TO BE A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE.
SO I THINK WE'LL BE ALL OF THAT TO SAY IS I, I APPRECIATE THE COMMENT.
I THINK WE'RE GONNA BE ZEROING IN ON THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE CLOSELY AND EXAMINING IT MORE CLOSELY IN THE UPCOMING MONTHS.
AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONER NEWELL FOR RAISING THAT.
I THINK THE ONLY REASON I THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE WORTHY OF EL UH, ELEVATING TO THIS RECOMMENDATION STATUS WAS LARGELY THE APPLICANT'S WILLINGNESS TO EXPLORE IT.
UM, ALSO THERE IS A COST FOR MAINTAINING LANDSCAPING YOURSELF, OFTEN MORE THAN A POOLED EFFORT, BUT NOT STRICTLY SO ACTUALLY, I WAS WONDERING IF THE APPLICANT COULD JUST EXPAND WHAT YOU THOUGHT THE CC NR MIGHT CONTAIN WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT.
YOU TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, FOR YOUR HOAS, A POTENTIAL ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE AND THINGS THAT I WASN'T EVEN THINKING OF.
UH, SO YEAH, CAN YOU JUST DESCRIBE WHAT THAT OVERSIGHT WOULD BE IF IT WAS NOT COVERED BY THE HOA, WHAT, WHAT INTERFACE THERE WOULD BE THERE FOR THOSE FRONT YARDS? YOU, YOU, YOU BET.
SO THERE ARE SPECIFIC SECTIONS THAT RELATE TO IDENTIFYING MAINTENANCE OBLIGATIONS AND RESPONSIBILITIES IN A LEVEL, A CERTAIN STANDARD THAT NEEDS TO BE UPHELD WITHIN THE SPECIFIC DOCUMENT.
UM, SO IF A HOMEOWNER ISN'T MEETING A LEVEL YOU KNOW OF, AND IT GOES INTO DETAIL, AND I BELIEVE WE SHARED WITH CITY STAFF EARLIER, THE MCKENNA EXAMPLE THAT I'M COMING, TRYING TO THINK OF OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
BUT IT TALKS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BEING CLEAR AND FREE OF WEEDS, YOU KNOW, NO OVERGROWTH, PROPER TRIMMINGS AND YOU KNOW, GROUND COVER UPKEEP AND WHATNOT.
AND THEN WITHIN THAT SIMILAR SECTION, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT FROM MCKENNA, IT WAS SECTION FOUR, SUBSECTION 4.6, AND THEN 4.7, UH, HAS ENFORCEMENT AND STEPPING RIGHTS BY THE HOA THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO GO TO AN INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNER AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, SORRY TO BOTHER YOU, BUT WE'VE INSPECTED YOUR FRONT YARD.
IT'S NOT MEETING THE STANDARD SET FORTH IN THE CCNRS.
HERE'S A NOTICE FOR YOU TO RECTIFY AND BRING THINGS UP TO STANDARD.
AND THEN SECTION 4.7 OR 4.8 WOULD THEN BE, IF THEY FAIL TO COMPLY, THEN THE HOA CAN STEP IN AND DO IT FOR THEM AND THEN SEND THEM THE INVOICE OR LIEN THEIR PROPERTY TO THEN DO IT.
SO INSTEAD OF SPREADING MAINTENANCE COSTS ACROSS EVERYBODY, IT WOULD REALLY JUST BE IDENTIFYING PEOPLE THAT AREN'T INDIVIDUALLY MAINTAINING THEIR OWN STUFF AND MAKING IT THEIR RESPONSIBILITY RATHER THAN SPREADING THE COST TO EVERYBODY ELSE WHO MIGHT LOVE ACTUALLY DOING THEIR YARD WORK ON THE WEEKENDS AND PULLING WEEDS ON THEIR OWN AND, AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
SO THAT'S, THOSE ARE KIND OF THE STEPS ALL SET FORTH IN THERE.
I, I APPRECIATE THAT AND HEARING THAT I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH REMOVING IT AND LETTING IT FALL BACK TO THE POSITION IN PLACE.
AND I'M LOOKING FOR HEAD NODS.
SEEMS LIKE COMMISSIONERS AGREE WITH THAT, THAT WE
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CAN REMOVE THAT RECOMMENDATION PER SE KNOWING THAT THE APPLICANT HAS A WILLINGNESS TO EXPLORE THAT ALREADY AND THAT WE'VE GOT A GOOD PROCESS IN PLACE WITH THE HOA PROCESS.UH, WELL WITH THAT, UM, THANK YOU FOR THAT NOTE.
UH, WITH THAT THEN, I THINK THAT'S EVERYTHING.
UH, SO I THINK BRENT, ONE MORE TIME.
CAN WE PUT THE LIST ON SCREEN JUST ONE MORE TIME WITH THAT ONE REMOVED AND THEN I WILL INVITE A MOTION.
SO YOU'LL
NUMBER 10 WILL GET ITS CORRESPONDING NUMBER PUT IN THERE.
AND WE CAN, WE WILL MOVE THE SCREEN AROUND A LITTLE BIT SO YOU CAN SEE THE ENTIRETY OF THE, THE ADDED CONDITIONS.
WE'VE GOT THREE KEYBOARDS AND TWO MOUSE OVER HERE.
OH, THAT'S, I'M JUST GONNA DELETE MINE.
NO EXCLAMATIONS, THIS LOOKS GREAT.
UH, SO I WILL INVITE A MOTION TO PASS THE RESOLUTION.
WE ACCEPT WITH THE 10? WITH, YEAH, WITH THE NINE.
I'LL ASK FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE FROM THE CLERK.
UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLE, ABSENT THE VOTE IS PASSED.
AND DOES THAT INCLUDE THE TREE REMOVAL PERMIT? DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON THAT SEPARATELY? IN MY MIND, THAT WAS ALL INCLUSIVE.
SHOULD WE DO A RUN A QUICK VOTE FOR THAT IT, THERE, IT'S ALL INCLUDED IN THE SAME RESOLUTION.
OKAY, SO WITH THAT WE HAVE THE PAST RESOLUTION.
SO I WILL CLOSE, I WILL CLOSE THAT PUBLIC HEARING AND WE'LL MOVE BRIEFLY TO
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COMMISSION COMMENT.AND I'LL ASK COMMISSIONERS IF THEY HAVE ANY OUTSIDE CITY BUSINESS THEY WANT TO COMMENT ON.
THANK YOU TO THE DEVELOPER TEAM FOR ATTENDING.
I'LL ASK COMMISSIONERS IF THEY HAVE ANYTHING TO PRESENT PERTINENT TO THIS COMMITTEE.
UM, LET'S SEE, WHAT DO I HAVE THAT'S NEW? UM, REBUILDING TOGETHER.
PETALUMA IS DOING A CITYWIDE EVENT AND WE INVITE YOU ALL, IT IS A DINNER FOR EVERYONE FREE OF CHARGE, UM, AT HERZOG HALL ON MAY 10TH.
IT IS TO THANK THIS, UH, RESIDENTS OF PETALUMA BECAUSE WE HAVE GROWN SO LARGE AND WITH ALL THEIR HELP, UM, ALL THE RESIDENTS HAVE REALLY SUPPORTED US ALONG THE WAY.
I'LL JUST SAY BRIEFLY, PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE COMMITTEE.
WE GOT TO SEE AN EARLY PREVIEW OF THE RIVER PARK, WHICH I'M SURE MANY PEOPLE HERE ARE AWARE OF.
UH, THAT PROJECT GOING ON AT MAGIR PENINSULA.
I THINK IT'S A JOINT MEETING WITH PBAC.
UH, NO, EXCUSE ME, THAT'S ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION COMING UP IN APRIL.
NO, BUT WE'LL BE SEEING THE RIVER PARK PLAN SOON, UH, HERE.
THERE'S ALSO UPDATES ON FINDING FUNDING FOR WAY FINDING FOR ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION AND PETALUMA, WHICH IS GREAT.
AND ON TREE COMMITTEE, WE ARE HIP DEEP IN THE URBAN FORESTRY MANAGEMENT PLAN.
WE HAVE A GREAT CONSULTANT PUTTING THAT TOGETHER TO HARMONIZE TREE POLICY IN THE CITY.
JESSICA, ANY UPDATES? UM, I'VE GOT A FIVE WEEK OLD AT HOME, SO NOT ANY UPDATES FROM ME
THEN WITH THAT WE'LL CLOSE COMMISSION COMMENT AND MOVE TO STAFF
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COMMENT.UM, SO WE, WE HAVE LEARNED THAT THE CITY IS GOING TO BE WORKING WITH DAILY ACTS TO RE LANDSCAPE PUBLIC OR, UH, CITY HALL.
UM, THE ENTRANCE IS BOTH OFF OF ENGLISH STREET AND SO FORTH.
SO THAT'S, UH, WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE, THE PLANNING AND, AND, UM, AND THAT PROCESS AS IT EVOLVES OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.
ALSO, UH, REFERRING TO THE PETALUMA RIVER PARK, WE WILL BE BRINGING THAT CONCEPTUAL DESIGN TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON, UH, MARCH 25TH.
THAT DAY HAS OPENED UP, UH, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, IT'S NOT CERTAIN THAT WE'LL BE DOING A JOINT MEETING WITH, UH,
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THE HISTORIC AND CULTURAL PRESERVATION COMMITTEE, UM, IN PART BECAUSE HCPC DOESN'T HAVE A SPECIFIC REVIEW ROLE IN THAT PROJECT.HOWEVER, UH, THE PROJECT, THE WAY THE PROJECT IS CONSIDERING HISTORY AND CULTURE, IT WOULD BE, UH, DEFINITELY ENCOURAGING TO HAVE HCPCS INPUT.
SO WE'LL DO OUR BEST TO, TO TRY TO DO THAT.
UH, AND THEN AS THE CHAIR NOTED FOLLOWING, UM, I BELIEVE THE FIRST MEETING IN APRIL, WE ARE SCHEDULED TO BRING THE DRAFT ACT OF TRANSPORTATION PLAN BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR REVIEW.
UH, AND THEN FROM THERE WE'LL JUST, UH, CONTINUE TO LOOK AT, UH, OUR DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY LIST, OUR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW LIST AND, AND DETERMINE, UM, WHEN PROJECTS WILL BE COMING FORWARD.
BUT I WOULD ANTICIPATE WE WON'T HAVE ANY DEVELOPMENT REVIEWS, UM, BEFORE MAY.
AND WITH THAT, I WILL ADJOURN THE MEETING AT EIGHT 30.