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ALL RIGHT, AS WE HAVE SOME

[CALL TO ORDER]

MEMBERS JUST GETTING SEATED, I WILL CALL TO ORDER THIS JOINT MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE HISTORIC AND CULTURAL PRESERVATION COMMITTEE ON TUESDAY, MARCH 25TH.

AND WE WILL START OUR MEETING WITH THE CALL TO ORDER, OR EXCUSE ME, WITH THE CLERK TAKING ROLE.

[ROLL CALL]

I AM GONNA START WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THEN MOVE ON TO HCPC.

UH, COMMISSIONER FRY, PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER HOOPER.

ABSENT.

COMMISSIONER KERLAN HERE.

COMMISSIONER VICE CHAIR KUSON.

HERE.

COMMISSIONER NOEL.

PRESENT, COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLE, PRESENT CHAIR MOSES.

ABSENT WE HAVE A QUORUM FOR PLANNING COMMISSION.

NOW MOVING ON TO HCPC COMMITTEE MEMBER BARCLAY SAXON.

HERE.

HERE, COMMITTEE MEMBER LOPEZ.

ABSENT.

COMMITTEE MEMBER NGARO.

ABSENT COMM COMMITTEE MEMBER JENEN PRESENT CHAIR WHITLEY.

PRESENT.

WE HAVE QUORUM.

THANK YOU CLERK.

UH, WE WILL MOVE RIGHT INTO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.

DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON ITEMS OF PUBLIC INTEREST THAT ARE WITHIN THE PLANNING COMMISSION SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION, AND THAT ARE NOT LISTED ON THE CURRENT AGENDA.

PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO UP TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON, DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF PERSONS TIME WILL BE ALLOCATED IN EQUAL SHARES.

TOTALLY.

NO MORE THAN 15 MINUTES.

I DON'T HAVE ANY IN-PERSON SPEAKER CARDS, UH, AND I DON'T SEE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC JUMPING UP TO TURN THEM IN.

I WILL ASK URIEL IF WE GOT ANY GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING.

WE RECEIVED.

NO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING.

OKAY.

WITH NONE IN FRONT OF ME.

THEN WE WILL MOVE ON.

FROM GENERAL, I WILL CLOSE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.

WE WILL MOVE ON TO PRESENTATIONS.

THERE ARE NO PRESENTATIONS DURING TODAY'S MEETING, SO WE'LL MOVE RIGHT THROUGH THAT TO APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

AND THERE ARE NO MINUTES TO APPROVE.

SO WE WILL MOVE RIGHT TO PUBLIC

[PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION]

HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION.

AND THIS WILL BE ITEM ONE.

IT IS A STUDY SESSION FOR THE CITY OF PETALUMA PLANNING COMMISSION AND HISTORIC AND CULTURAL PRESERVATION COMMITTEE TO RECEIVE STAFF AND APPLICANT PRESENTATIONS AND CONDUCT A STUDY SESSION TO PROVIDE NON-BINDING COMMENTS AND FURTHER DIRECTION ON THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGN PROPOSAL FOR THE PETALUMA RIVER PARK LOCATED ON THE MCNAIR PENINSULA.

SO AS EVERYBODY IS READY, I WILL TURN THIS OVER TO ANDREW TRIPLE ON STAFF AND THE RIVER PARK TEAM.

GREAT.

THANK YOU CHAIR.

AND, UM, GOOD EVENING COMMISSION AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLE.

UH, WE'RE, WE'RE EXCITED TO BE HERE THIS EVENING.

THIS IS, UM, CONCLUDING A SERIES OF CONCEPT DESIGN STUDY SESSIONS THAT WE'VE DONE WITH A VARIETY OF, UM, COMMISSIONS AND, AND BOARDS AND COMMITTEES.

UM, WE STARTED WITH THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE IN JANUARY AND THEN MOVED ON TO THE SENIOR ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UM, P-A-C-R-M-P-C, AND MOST RECENTLY THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

AND, UH, SO IT'S GREAT TO BE HERE TONIGHT FOR THIS STUDY SESSION WITH PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE HISTORIC AND CULTURAL PRESERVATION COMMITTEE.

UM, SO BEFORE WE START ON, ON OUR PRESENTATION THIS EVENING, THOUGH, I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, THAT SEVERAL OF YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS PRESENTATION AND HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, PROVIDE COMMENT AND RECOMMENDATIONS SEVERAL TIMES.

UM, SO FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

THAT MEANS THAT YOU'RE SERVING ON SEVERAL, UH, COMMITTEES OR BOARDS, AND, AND THAT'S IMPRESSIVE BECAUSE THAT TAKES A LOT OF TIME.

BUT, BUT I THINK IT'S ALSO REALLY UNIQUE AND, AND IN A WAY, I'M JEALOUS BECAUSE IT ALLOWS YOU TO LOOK AT THIS PROJECT THROUGH SEVERAL DIFFERENT LENSES.

AND I THINK IN DOING SO, YOU SEE HOW, HOW SOME OF THE ELEMENTS OF THE PROJECT WORK TOGETHER AND FIND, UH, SYNERGISTIC EFFECTS.

BUT THEN ON THE OTHER HAND, HOW WE CAN SEE SOME CONFLICTS BETWEEN, UM, GOALS OR, OR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE FROM A PERSPECTIVE, SAY, UH, RECREATION, MUSIC AND PARTS, UM, VERSUS TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND SO FORTH.

SO, UH, WE, WE LOOK AT IT THIS EVENING FROM YET A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE THAT IS OF THE, UH, HISTORIC AND CULTURAL, UM, OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE NOT JUST INHERENT IN THE SITE, BUT ALSO ITS POSITION IN THE CITY AS WELL AS THE FOUNDATION'S, UM, GOALS FOR THE PROGRAMMING AND USE OF THE SITE.

AND THEN FROM PLANNING COMMISSION'S PERSPECTIVE AS LAND USE AND AS THE REVIEW AUTHORITY FOR SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW, WHICH IS THE REQUIRED ENTITLEMENT.

SO, UH, THAT'S, THOSE ARE THE, UM, TWO, TWO FOCI THAT WE HAVE TONIGHT ARE THE LENSES THAT WE'LL BE LOOKING THROUGH IT THIS EVENING.

SO BRIEFLY, I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT THE PURPOSE, THEN GO INTO OUR STANDARDS FOR REVIEW, THAT EVENTUALLY THE PROJECT WILL BE SUBJECT TO, UM, SOME CONSIDERATIONS

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THAT WE SHARED WITH YOU, AS WELL AS THE THEMES THAT EMERGED FROM, UH, THE PRIOR REVIEWS AND FINALLY THE REQUESTS THAT WE HAVE FOR YOU THIS EVENING.

AND SO, UM, I BELIEVE YOU'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE.

I'VE USED THIS, UH, SLIDE A COUPLE OF TIMES WITH, UM, PROJECTS THAT WE'VE BROUGHT BEFORE YOU AT THE CONCEPT DESIGN LEVEL.

AND I WANT TO USE IT HERE TO TALK ABOUT WHY WE DO THIS AT THIS STAGE OF THE PROJECT'S DEVELOPMENT.

SO OFTENTIMES, YOU KNOW, AS THE PROJECT MOVES THROUGH THE DESIGN PROCESS, UH, ONTO ONTO DEVELOPMENT, UM, OR CONSTRUCTION, YOU KNOW, IT REALLY STARTS OUT AT WHAT YOU CALL THE BACK OF THE NAPKIN, RIGHT? THAT'S WHERE, UM, YOU KNOW, A PERSON OR A GROUP OF PEOPLE HAS AN IDEA.

THEY MIGHT BE SKETCHING IT OUT, THINKING VERY BROADLY ABOUT WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.

AND SO THEN THAT, THAT PRE-CONCEPT DESIGN REALLY STARTS TO TAKE FORM OFTENTIMES IN TERMS OF THE PROGRAMMING.

YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT WHAT YOU WANT TO DO AND HOW YOU WANT TO DO IT THEN EVOLVES, AND YOU START TO THINK ABOUT WHAT YOUR PROGRAM NEEDS IN ORDER TO BE SUCCESSFUL.

AND THEN YOU START TO BUILD YOUR DESIGN AROUND THAT.

SO THE, UH, THE TEAM IS, UM, AT THE POINT OF CONCLUDING THEIR CONCEPT DESIGN, AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO MOVE ON INTO DESIGN DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S WHERE THEY'LL GET, THEY'LL GAIN A LOT OF SPECIFICITY, A LOT OF, UH, DATA POINTS.

UM, AND A LOT OF DETAIL WILL BE IMBIBED IN THE DESIGN.

AND THAT, THAT STAGE FROM CONCEPT DESIGN TO DESIGN DEVELOPMENT IS VERY CRITICAL.

IT'S, IT'S CRITICAL THAT THE PROJECT NOT ONLY UNDERSTANDS WHAT IT WANTS TO DO, BUT IT ALSO, UH, WANTS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S EXPECTED OF IT BY, BY OTHER STAKEHOLDERS, THE CITY, THE COMMUNITY, AND SO FORTH.

UH, AS, AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'LL SEE THIS EVENING WE'RE FORTUNATE TO HAVE AN APPLICANT TEAM WHO'S HAD A VERY ROBUST COMMUNITY INPUT PROCESS.

AND THEN WITH THE WORK THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING WITH THE CONCEPT DESIGN REVIEW, UM, I, I BELIEVE THAT'S BEEN ROBUST AS WELL.

SO THEY'LL GO INTO THAT STAGE THREE DESIGN DEVELOPMENT, REALLY ARMED WITH A LOT OF INFORMATION AND REALLY ABLE TO MAKE SOME CRUCIAL DECISIONS ABOUT, UH, THE, THE PROJECT THAT THEY'LL ULTIMATELY PROPOSE.

THIS PROJECT IS A BIT UNIQUE, RIGHT? IT'S, UH, IT'S BEING, UM, IT'S CONCEPTUALIZED, IT'S BEING BROUGHT FORWARD BY A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION.

UH, IT'S ON PROPERTY OR LAND THAT HAS BEEN INTENDED FOR A PARK PURPOSE, ALBEIT PERHAPS NOT A PRIVATE, UM, DEVELOPMENT EFFORT AS WE SEE COMING BEFORE US TODAY.

BUT IT'S ALSO UNIQUE IN THE SENSE OF WHAT IT CAN DELIVER TO THE COMMUNITY.

AND SO, IN THAT SENSE, WHEN WE THINK ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO IN DESIGN DEVELOPMENT, THEY'RE NOT JUST TRYING TO RESPOND TO A LOT OF NEEDS AND AND GOALS, BUT THEY'RE ALSO TRYING TO DO IT ON A BUDGET WITH AN UNCERTAIN FUTURE IN TERMS OF, OF, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE FINANCIAL RESOURCES TO FULLY EXECUTE THE PROJECT.

AND SO THAT ASKS FOR TWO THINGS.

FIRST, IT SUGGESTS THAT WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS TO FULLY INFORM THEM SO THAT THE DESIGN DEVELOPMENT PROCESS AS IS AS EFFICIENT AND PRODUCTIVE AS IT CAN BE FOR THEM TO MAXIMIZE THE USE OF THEIR FINANCIAL RESOURCES.

BUT THEN SECONDLY, IT DOES MEAN THAT IT'S LIKELY THAT THE PROJECT WOULD HAVE AN EXTENDED MULTI-PHASE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN TO IT.

AND SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT LATER THIS EVENING AS WELL, AND WHAT THAT MEANS FOR HOW THE APPLICANT WILL BRING FORWARD THAT PROJECT AND WHAT THEIR EXPECTATIONS MIGHT BE.

AND THEN AFTER THAT, THEY'LL, UH, FROM DESIGN DEVELOPMENT, THE CONCLUSION OF DESIGN DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE A SPAR, UH, REVIEW, AND THEN THEY WOULD MOVE ON INTO CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS AND, UH, AND THEN ULTIMATELY DEVELOPMENT.

SO I WANTED TO POINT OUT HERE IN, IN CONCEPT DESIGN, YOU KNOW, WE, WE BRING, WE BRING THE, UH, CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS FORWARD AT A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT LEVELS, AND WE CONTINUE TO WORK TO FIND THAT BALANCE OF THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF INFORMATION THAT ALLOWS YOU TO PROVIDE MEANINGFUL COMMENTS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, DOESN'T OVERLY VEST THE PROJECT IN, UM, COMMITMENTS TO, UH, SPECIFIC DESIGNS OR INVESTMENT IN EXPLORING DESIGN ALTERNATIVES TO ARRIVE AT A CERTAIN POINT OR A CERTAIN PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE.

SO, UH, THIS EVENING WE'LL HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION, UM, THROUGH THE, UH, PRESENTATION BY THE DESIGN TEAM.

AND THEN WE ALSO CAN SEE HERE THAT, UH, THIS WAS PART OF ATTACHMENT TWO, UM, THAT WAS SHARED WITH YOU THAT WE REALLY SEE SOME BLOCKING OF, OF ACTIVITY.

SO WE'RE AT A FAIRLY HIGH LEVEL IN THIS CONCEPT DESIGN, BUT WE ARE SEEING, UM, SOME, THE EMERGENCE OF SOME VERY CLEAR ACTIVITY AREAS, UM, TREATMENTS OF LAND IN TERMS OF CONSERVATION, PASSIVE USE OR, UM, OR ACTIVE USE.

WE'RE SEEING THE BRIDGE ACROSS THE MCNAIR CHANNEL, WHICH IS A HUGE COMPONENT OF THIS

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PROJECT, NOT JUST IN TERMS OF OF COST, BUT IN TERMS OF, OF POTENTIAL IMPACT.

AND THEN IT'S CONNECTIVITY TO 500 HOPPER STREET, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT.

AND, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO, UM, UH, CENTERING INTO THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT LAND USE.

IN TERMS OF THE REGULATORY CONTEXT, THIS IS THE CURRENT, UH, GENERAL PLAN LAND USE DESIGNATION MAP.

UH, AT LEAST SINCE 2008, THE PENINSULA HAS BEEN DESIGNATED AS PARKLAND WITHIN THEN, UM, THE, THE ADJACENT LAND AT 500 HOPPER ACROSS MCNAIR CANAL, INCLUDING THE SHAMROCK SITE AS A RIVER DEPENDENT INDUSTRIAL.

UM, THE, OF COURSE, THE, THE AREA IS GUIDED BY THE CENTRAL PETALUMA SPECIFIC PLAN AND THE SMART CODE.

SO WE ARE WORKING UNDER THOSE.

HOWEVER, THE GENERAL PLAN CLEARLY SETS, UH, SOME EXPECTATIONS FOR THE AREAS UNDER CONSIDERATION.

I THINK EVEN FROM THIS, UM, THIS PERSPECTIVE THOUGH, UM, WELL, LET'S JUST GO ONTO THE NEXT PERSPECTIVE, 'CAUSE THAT MIGHT BE MORE HELPFUL.

SO AS WE SEE HERE, WE'RE STARTING TO SEE THIS CONVERSION OF THIS RIVER DEPENDENT INDUSTRIAL, UH, LAND LINING, BOTH THE PETALUMA RIVER AS WELL AS THE, THE MCNAIR, UM, CHANNEL OR MCNAIR CANAL.

AND IN FACT, THE SHAMROCK LANDS AND, UH, WHAT WE REFER TO AS 500 HOPPER ARE REALLY THE LAST REMAINING LANDS THAT ARE ZONED TO A RIVER DEPENDENT INDUSTRIAL.

IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT GOING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE, UM, ONLY THE PETALUMA RIVER WOULD BE JUDGED.

IT'S NOT THE INTENT OF, I BELIEVE, ANY OF THE REGULATORY AGENCIES TO CONTINUE DREDGING, UM, THE MCNAIR CANAL, UH, SIMPLY BECAUSE THE NEED FOR THAT, THAT BARGE RELATED, UM, TRANSPORTATION, UH, JUST ISN'T NECESSARY.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND AS WE THINK ABOUT, UH, THE, THE LAND USE AND, UM, ZONING CONTEXT.

WE, I ALSO APPRECIATE THIS SLIDE BECAUSE THIS IS SHOWING THE OVERLAY OF THE CENTRAL PETALUMA SPECIFIC PLAN AND SMART SIDE OR SMART CODE, UH, WHAT IT INTENDS FOR IT.

AND OF COURSE, WE SEE THAT IT FULLY INTENDS FOR THE, UM, PENINSULA TO BE PARKLAND.

THAT'S CONSISTENT ACROSS ALL OF OUR REGULATORY DOCUMENTS, BY THE WAY, FROM THE GENERAL PLAN TO THE SMART CODE, TO THE RIVER ACCESS ENHANCEMENT PLAN.

THEY'RE ALL INTENDING THAT.

WHAT DOES BECOME PERHAPS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BETWEEN THE GENERAL PLAN AND THEN ONTO, UM, THE OTHER PLANS AS WE SEE THIS, THIS LINING ALMOST ALONG THE WATER'S EDGE OF THIS PARK AREA, UM, BOTH INTENDED TO, TO SUPPORT A RIVER TRAIL, UM, PROBABLY SOME WETLANDS PRESERVATION AS WELL.

THERE'S SOME STATE LANDS OWNERSHIP IN THERE.

SO THERE'S A LOT GOING ON IN THIS WATER'S EDGE.

AND WE SEE THEN THE, THE BOUNDARY OF THE ANTI, THE CONCEPT DESIGN BOUNDARY SUPERIMPOSED OVER IT, SO WE CAN SEE THAT THE BOUNDARY EXTENDS BEYOND THAT.

AND THEN UP HERE, UM, QUITE A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF WHERE AT FRONTS HOPPER STREET AND WHERE THE, UH, THE DESIGN TEAM IS PROPOSING A TEMPORARY PARKING LOT, AND THEY'LL GO INTO THAT IN DETAIL.

WHAT, WHAT I WANT TO POINT OUT HERE IS, IS IT'S CURRENTLY STAFF'S POSITION THAT WE FIND THAT WE WOULD NOT NEED TO DO A GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT OR REZONING IN ORDER TO BRING FORWARD THE PLANS FOR THE, UM, THE PARK DEVELOPMENT ON THE 500 HOPPER STREET.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC DETAILS IN ANY OF OUR POLICY DOCUMENTS ABOUT THE EXTENT OF, UM, THE ACTIVATION OF THE WATER'S EDGE.

AND SO, UH, IN, GIVEN THE FACT WHERE WE ARE WITH THE GENERAL PLAN UPDATE AND SO FORTH, UH, WE DO ANTICIPATE RECOMMENDING THAT WE WOULD ONLY REQUIRE A SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW ENTITLEMENT, THEN, UM, IT WOULD ALLOW THE PROJECT TO SET THIS 500 HOPPER STREET BOUNDARY.

AND THEN THE REMAINDER OF THE 500 HOPPER STREET PROPERTY THAT'S CURRENTLY RIVER DEPENDENT INDUSTRIAL, THOSE, UH, LAND USE POLICIES WOULD BE ESTABLISHED THROUGH THE GENERAL PLAN UP UPDATE, UM, WHICH WE'RE CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH.

SO THAT'S A, THAT'S ANOTHER ITEM THAT, THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THIS EVENING.

UM, OF COURSE, BECAUSE THE, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION ON THIS MAKES A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IN HOW WE PROCEED THROUGH THE ENTITLEMENT PATHWAY.

SO THEN, AS I MENTIONED, UH, IT CAME BEFORE A VARIETY OF THE CCBS AND WE DISTILLED, UH, THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, THEIR IDENTIFICATIONS OF CONCERNS AND SUCH DOWN INTO, UM, THESE, UH, FIVE KEY CONCEPTS.

THE FIRST, UH, CONCEPT OR THEME OF CONNECTIVITY AND ACCESS ACCESSIBILITY, PARTICULARLY THE

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IMPORTANCE OF THE BRIDGE.

UM, THE WHEN, UM, PEDESTRIAN AND BIKE ACCESS IS ADDED ALONG HOPPER STREET, UH, CONCERNS ABOUT SAFETY AND THEN INTEGRATION WITH BOTH EXISTING AND PLANNED BIKE INFRASTRUCTURE.

UM, WERE ALL HIGHLIGHTED BY RMPC, UH, PAC, AND, UM, THE SENIOR ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

THEN ALONG THE THEME OF SUSTAINABILITY AND NATURE FOCUSED DESIGN, UM, THERE WERE RECOMMENDATIONS TO ENSURE THE MAXIMAL USE OF PERMEABLE PAVING AND OF NATIVE PLANTINGS.

AND, UH, THESE WERE EMPHASIZED BY THE SENIOR ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UM, WHO ALSO SUGGESTED A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE, UH, MASTER GARDENERS, UM, ASSOCIATION HERE IN PETALUMA.

UM, BOTH BENEFICIAL, NOT JUST FOR THE PARK ITSELF, BUT ALSO FOR, UM, THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE MASTER GARDENERS TO EXERCISE THEIR SKILLS IN A COMMUNITY SETTING.

THEN ANOTHER THEME OF INCLUSIVITY AND MULTI-GENERATIONAL USE, UH, ADDRESSING, UM, FOCUSING ON NOT JUST, UM, ALL USERS, BUT SPECIFICALLY THINKING ABOUT SENIORS WHO WOULD BE USING THE, THE PARK, UM, TEENS WHO WOULD BE USING THE PARK, AND FAMILIES WHO WOULD BE USING THE PARK, AND WHAT THEY WOULD BE LOOKING FOR IN THE PARK UNIQUELY, UM, BASED UPON THEIR DEMOGRAPHICS.

BUT THEN ALSO COLLECTIVELY ANOTHER THEME OF CULTURAL AND HISTORIC, UM, INTEGRATION.

YOU KNOW, WE SIT AT, UH, WE, WE HAVE A SITE THAT IS IN, IN THE HEART OF THE HISTORIC DOWNTOWN.

UM, BUT THERE'S NO, IT'S, IT'S NOT DESIGNATED AS A LANDMARK OR ANY OTHER, UM, LISTING AS A HISTORIC FEATURE, BUT IT CERTAINLY IS, IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO THE ECONOMIC HISTORY OF THE CITY, UH, THE, THE COMMERCIAL SUCCESS OF THE CITY, AS WELL AS HOW THE CITY MOVED ABOUT USING THE PETALUMA RIVER FOR TRANSPORTATION.

SO THINKING ABOUT, EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T HAVE HISTORIC BUILDINGS, WE CERTAINLY HAVE A RICH HISTORY, A CULTURAL HISTORY, AN ECONOMIC HISTORY, UM, TO TELL ON AND AROUND THE SITE, AND HOW DO WE DO THAT AND INTEGRATE THAT INTO, UM, BOTH THE SITE'S, PHYSICAL APPEARANCE, BUT ALSO ITS PROGRAMMING MM-HMM .

AND THEN FINALLY, LONG-TERM MAINTENANCE AND PARTNERSHIPS.

UM, AND THE DESIGN TEAM, UH, WILL GO INTO THAT AS WELL AS THE FOUNDATION, I KNOW FROM THE, THE LAST, UH, TWO PLUS YEARS OF CONVERSATIONS WITH THE FOUNDATION THAT THEY ARE VERY FOCUSED ON NOT JUST BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE THE PART TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT THINKING ABOUT THE LONG TERM SUCCESS OF THE, OF THE PARK AND ITS PROGRAMS. SO THEN FINALLY, WE OFFERED YOU IN THE STAFF REPORT ABOUT SEVEN OR EIGHT, UH, QUESTIONS, UM, TO CONSIDER AS YOU THINK ABOUT THIS EVENING'S STUDY SESSION AND, AND, UH, YOUR, YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND, AND, UM, THOUGHTS.

I WANTED TO PULL OUT FOUR OF THOSE.

UH, TO, TO HIGHLIGHT FIRST IS HOW CAN THE PROJECT MAXIMIZE ITS CONTRIBUTION TO THE AREA'S CULTURAL AND ECONOMIC VITALITY? UH, WE'VE HAD, WE'VE HAD COMMENTS ABOUT THAT, BUT I, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT HCPC IS HERE THIS EVENING TO LOOK AT IT SPECIFICALLY THROUGH THAT LENS AND, UM, AND FOR THE PROJECT TO BENEFIT FROM ITS PERSPECTIVE.

AND THEN WE ALSO, UM, INTRODUCED AS, UH, A LAST MINUTE ITEM YESTERDAY, SOME DRAFT DESIGN GUIDELINES THAT ARE PROJECT SPECIFIC TO HELP ENSURE DESIGN CONSISTENCY.

UH, DOING THIS FOR TWO REASONS.

UM, THE FIRST REASON IS THE DESIGN GUIDELINES.

THE FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVE THIS EVENING CAN HELP, UH, FORMALIZE THOSE DESIGN GUIDELINES AND CAN FURTHER DIRECT THE DESIGN TEAM AS THEY, THEY WORK INTO THE DESIGN DEVELOPMENT PHASE.

BUT SECONDLY, WE WOULD PROPOSE DURING SPAR REVIEW THAT, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION CONSIDER APPROVING SPAR REVIEW AND THEN CONDITIONING THE PROJECT THAT ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT MULTI-PHASE DEVELOPMENT MAY BE SUBJECT TO ADMINISTRATIVE, UM, SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW.

IN DOING SO, THEN, UM, THAT THE, UH, THE REVIEW AUTHORITY AT THE ADMINISTRATIVE LEVEL IS THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR OR THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR, UM, PERHAPS WE HAVE ONE AT THAT POINT IN TIME.

AND, UH, AND SO THEY COULD USE THESE DESIGN GUIDELINES THEN TO EVALUATE FUTURE PHASES OF THE PROJECT, UH, IMPLEMENTATION OF NEW FEATURES, MODIFICATION OF EXISTING FEATURES AND SO FORTH.

SO AGAIN, REALLY LOOKING AT THIS PROJECT'S, UH, UNIQUE, UM, COMBINATION OF LONG-TERM PERSPECTIVE, UH, MULTIPLE PHASES, AS WELL AS, UM, THE, THE ROLE OF THE NONPROFIT IN BRINGING THIS PROJECT FORWARD AND CONTINUING TO, UM, SEEK TO IDENTIFY THE RESOURCES TO IMPLEMENT, UM, THE PROJECT AS IT EVOLVES.

THEN FINALLY, OF COURSE, UM, WE'RE GOING, WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING, UH, BACK THROUGH THE LAND USE, UH, FRAMEWORK IN THE UPCOMING MONTH

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OR TWO.

AND SO, UM, WHAT RECOMMENDATIONS DO YOU HAVE FOR THE GENERAL PLAN UPDATE TEAM TO THINK ABOUT LAND USE POLICIES THAT, PARTICULARLY ON THE 500 HOPPER SITE, THE REMAINING PORTION OF THAT SITE, UM, THAT WILL, UH, WE ANTICIPATE AT LEAST WOULD, WOULD CONTINUE TO BE BROUGHT FORWARD FOR, UM, SOME SORT OF MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.

AND THEN FINALLY, SORT OF A CATCHALL, UM, OPPORTUNITIES, UM, TO RECOMMEND FOR THE PROJECT TO EXPLORE AS IT CONTINUES TO EVOLVE IT'S DESIGN.

UM, I THINK THAT, THAT WE PROBABLY HAVEN'T IDENTIFIED EVERYTHING YET, AND SO I LOOK FORWARD TO THIS EVENING'S, UM, CONVERSATION BETWEEN THE TWO, UH, BETWEEN PLAN AND COMMISSION AND HCPC TO, UM, PERHAPS, UH, UM, FIND SOME NEW OPPORTUNITIES TO RECOMMEND TO THE, UH, DESIGN TEAM.

AND SO WITH THAT, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME AT THIS POINT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

UH, AND THEN THE APPLICANT TEAM IS ALSO READY WITH THEIR PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU.

UH, THANK YOU, ANDREW, FOR THE PRESENTATION.

UH, YOU KNOW, WE DECIDED TO HAVE KIND OF A JOINT QUESTION PERIOD, NOT GO IN A ROW AND NOT SEPARATE THE COMMITTEES.

SO, UH, IF ANYONE HAS ANY ESPECIALLY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS, CLARIFYING QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AT THIS POINT, NOW WILL BE THE TIME.

AND I'LL JUST START WITH VOLUNTEERS IF ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS TO GET US STARTED.

ROGER, UM, JUST A CLARIFICATION ON WHO OWNS THE PROJECT.

THIS IS A FOUNDATION FUNDED PROJECT ON FOUNDATION LAND.

WHAT ROLE DOES THE CITY PLAY OTHER THAN APPROVAL IN TERMS OF ONGOING, UH, MAINTENANCE SURE.

REQUIREMENTS, UM, UM, SECURITY MM-HMM .

MA, YOU KNOW, ALL THE STUFF, WHO, WHO'S IN CHARGE? SURE.

SO IT IS, WE DO CONSIDER IT A PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT PROJECT.

THE LAND IS PRIVATELY OWNED AND THE FOUNDATION IS EFFECTIVELY A PRIVATE, UM, ENTITY.

IT'S A NONPROFIT ENTITY, BUT IT IS, IT IS FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, A PRIVATE ENTITY.

SO AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THE PROJECT IS SUBJECT TO, UM, ALL OF THE, THE PLANNING ENTITLEMENT REQUIREMENTS THAT WE WOULD SEE FOR ANY PROJECT, ACTUALLY, BECAUSE EVEN CITY PROJECTS ARE SUBJECT TO SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW, UM, IN TERMS OF LONG-TERM MAINTENANCE AND SUCH, UH, THAT'S AN ONGOING CONVERSATION WITH THE CITY, AND I BELIEVE THAT CONVERSATION WILL CONTINUE TO EVOLVE AS THE PROJECT ADVANCES.

UM, I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT, UH, WE'LL START TO SEE CLARIFICATION OF THAT WITH THE SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW APPLICATION, UM, AS WELL AS, UM, CERTAINLY AS THE PROJECT YOURS UP FOR ITS FIRST PHASE IMPLEMENTATION.

WHAT ABOUT MONITORING ACTIVITIES? ? WELL, WE WOULD, THE CITY WOULD DO THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THROUGH, JUST LIKE WE WOULD DO THROUGH ANY PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT, UH, CODE ENFORCEMENT, UM, CITY POLICE SERVICES, FIRE SERVICES AND SUCH.

I'M, I'M THINKING LIKE FUNDRAISING ACTIVITIES.

MM-HMM .

CONCERTS, MUSICAL CONCERTS, SPECIAL EVENTS CHART THAT HAVE A GATE CHARGED TO THEM.

GOT YOU.

SURE.

SURE.

AND IT IS, SO CITY PARKS DOES HAVE A SPECIAL PERMIT PROCESS FOR, YOU KNOW, USE OF THEIR PARKS FOR SPECIAL EVENTS AND SUCH.

AND WE JUST STARTED A CONVERSATION WITH THE FOUNDATION ABOUT, UH, THE EXTENT TO WHICH WE MIGHT ESTABLISH, SAY, MAXIMUM OCCUPANCIES FOR A SPECIFIC AREA OF THE SITE, UH, AND OR ACROSS THE SITE AS A WHOLE.

AND THEN IF THEY WERE TO EXCEED THOSE OCCUPANCIES OR LEVELS OF ACTIVITY, THEN THEY WOULD COME IN FOR, SAY, A TEMPORARY USE PERMIT FOR A SPECIAL EVENT.

BUT WE DO WANNA FIND THAT BALANCE BETWEEN, UM, AS A PRIVATE PARK, THE PARK BEING ABLE TO BE USED FOR, UM, SPECIAL EVENTS WITHOUT HAVING TO COME TO THE CITY FOR A TEMPORARY USE PERMIT FOR EVERY SINGLE EVENT.

THERE'S ALSO, UM, AND, AND SEER MAYBE YOU COULD TALK TO THIS, UH, NOT RIGHT NOW DURING YOUR, DURING YOUR PRESENTATION, BUT I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT THE, UH, CONSERVATION EASEMENT MM-HMM .

AND, AND THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT, WHICH IS HELD BY, UM, SONOMA COUNTY AG, AG AND OPEN SPACE ALSO PLACES SOME LIMITATIONS ON THE USE OF THE PARK.

SO, UH, CERTAINLY LEVELS OF ACTIVITY OR OF INTEREST TO A VARIETY OF AGENCIES AS WELL AS THE FOUNDATION.

TERRIFIC.

GOOD QUESTION.

UH, CHAIR WHITLEY.

YEAH, SO, UM, THEN MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT'S, UM, STANDARD SPAR REVIEW.

OH, THAT'S CORRECT.

IT'S NOT WITHIN A HISTORIC DISTRICT AND THERE'S NO, UM, LANDMARKS.

OKAY.

IS THAT, DOES THAT INCLUDE A CQA LEVEL REVIEW AS

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WELL? YES, IT WILL.

MM-HMM .

GREAT QUESTION.

ANY OTHER COMMISSION OR COMMITTEE MEMBERS QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I'VE GOT A COUPLE KIND OF BIG OVERARCHING ONES.

UH, IF NO ONE ELSE IS GONNA JUMP IN, I WILL JUST ASK IF HOW.

YEP.

OH, PLEASE, BRENT, JUMP IN.

UH, YOU MENTIONED 500 HOPPER IS, HAS THERE BEEN ANY APPLICATION FILED THAT WOULD VEST DEVELOPMENT? UM, PRIOR TO, SO THE FOUNDATION ACQUIRED IT IN 2024, JANUARY 24 IN, IN EARLY 24.

PRIOR TO THAT, THERE WAS A APPLICATION FOR MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.

IT, WE REFERRED TO IT THEN AS THE SCANNELL PROJECT.

UM, THAT WAS THE DEVELOPER.

AND THE, THE SITE HAS BEEN, UM, IT, IT'S EVOLVED A COUPLE OF TIMES IN TERMS OF USES OF THE SITE.

THERE WAS INITIALLY A LARGE CORPORATE OFFICE FOOTPRINT ON THE SITE WITH THEN SOME RESIDENTIAL USE, SOME AND SOME, UH, COMMERCIAL USES.

THEN, UH, THE LAST ITERATION WITH SCANNELL DEVELOPMENT WAS PREDOMINANTLY RESIDENTIAL, UM, SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING LOCATED AT THE, UM, AT THE, UH, HOPPER STREET AREA.

UM, AND REALLY THAT, THAT LOCATION DRIVES, UM, THE GOAL OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING THERE BECAUSE IT FALLS WITHIN THAT HALF MILE FROM THE TRAIN STATION.

AND SO THE BENEFITS OF HAVING THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS CLOSE TO THE, THE TRAIN STATION AS YOU CAN GET, ARE, UM, DESIRABLE FROM, FROM A VARIETY OF PERSPECTIVES.

SO THEN, UH, THERE'S SOME AMOUNT OF, OF COMMERCIAL RETAIL.

I THINK THE LAST PROPOSAL HAD MAYBE 8,000 SQUARE FEET OF, UM, COMMERCIAL RETAIL WITH THE, WITH THE REST OF IT BEING A MIX OF MULTIFAMILY AND, UH, SOME SINGLE FAMILY IN DUPLEX.

IS THERE ANYTHING LIKE THAT IS BEFORE THE CITY THAT NO.

SOMEONE, NO, NOT YET.

OKAY.

UM, UH, IS ANY PART OF THE, THE PARK AREA, UM, A BROWNFIELD THAT NEEDS SOME KIND OF REMEDIATION? I DON'T BELIEVE SO, BUT I'LL ASK, UH, THE APPLICANT TEAM TO SHARE THAT, THAT THIS EVENING, UM, DURING THEIR PRESENTATION.

OKAY.

THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I HAVE RIGHT NOW.

GREAT QUESTIONS.

I DUNNO IF THAT LED TO ANY FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS WITH ANYONE ELSE.

OTHERWISE, I WILL THROW OUT THE BIG QUESTION, UH, OF JUST HOW THIS COULD IMPACT, I THINK, OPEN SPACE BOTH WAYS.

MAYBE HOW THIS SITE COULD IMPACT OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS FOR SURROUNDING PROJECTS, UM, INCLUDING THE PROJECT THAT THIS TEAM MAY BRING FORWARD, WHICH IS THE ADJACENT HOUSING PROJECT.

THE REASON I BROUGHT THAT UP, I BROUGHT IT UP A LITTLE BIT AT PBA C, WAS WHEN WE SAW SCANNELL, I THINK WE WERE A LITTLE DISPLEASED.

THEY USED THEIR RIVER SETBACK AS THEIR PARK AND OPEN SPACE.

AND I KNOW THAT THE GENERAL PLAN HAS SOME INSIGHTS, MAYBE IT'S THE CPSP AS INSIGHTS ON HOW OPEN SPACE SHOULD BE USED IN THIS AREA, UM, OR HOW IT SHOULD BE DELINEATED.

SO YEAH, WHAT IMPACT DOES HAVING THIS GIANT PARK HAVE ON SURROUNDING PROJECTS, OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS, AND WHAT MIGHT BE THE OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS FOR THIS TEAM WITH THAT ADJACENT PROJECT? WELL, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE HAPPY WITH MY ANSWER, BUT , I THINK THAT THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE'RE ACTUALLY KIND OF, WE'RE EXCITED THAT THIS PROJECT IS BEFORE US.

NOW WHEN WE'RE IN THE MIDST OF, OF THE LAND USE DISCUSSION WITH THE GENERAL PLAN.

UM, THERE, THE, THE CURRENT GENERAL PLAN IDENTIFIES A SEVEN ACRE COMMUNITY PARK ON THE 500 HOPPER STREET SITE.

WE WERE NOT CLEAR, WELL, THERE WAS NO, THERE, THERE WAS, THE PENINSULA WAS DESIGNATED PARK, BUT THERE WAS NO CLARITY ON WHAT WAS EXPECTED OF DEVELOPMENT ON THE PENINSULA.

SO THIS IDEA OF THINKING ABOUT THE PENINSULA, I BELIEVE IS PLUS OR MINUS 24 ACRES, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.

SO YOU HAVE THIS 24 ACRE OPEN SPACE PARK ON THE PENINSULA, BUT THEN YOU'RE EXPECTING A SEVEN ACRE PARK TO BE DEVELOPED ACROSS THE CHANNEL FROM THE 24 ACRES.

AND THAT WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF LOOKING AT THAT GOING, HOW, HOW DID THAT COME TO BE? WAS IT BECAUSE THERE WASN'T CLARITY ON WHAT WAS EXPECTED OF THE PENINSULA LAND? PERHAPS SO BECAUSE YOUR SEVEN ACRE COMMUNITY PARK IS FAIRLY WELL-DEFINED IN THE GENERAL PLAN, THE EXPECTATIONS FOR THAT PARK.

SO I DO THINK THAT WITH THE PARK COMING FORWARD NOW AND BEING ABLE TO INFORM, UH, THE GENERAL PLAN, LAND USE CONVERSATION, WILL, WILL WANT TO

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LOOK AT THE PARK AS SAYING, THIS IS AN ANTICIPATED PIPELINE PROJECT, AND THEREFORE WE CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT TO EXPECT IN TERMS OF, UM, PARK AND OPEN SPACE SERVING THAT AREA.

UM, THE, GO AHEAD.

YOU BRING UP A GOOD POINT.

I MEAN, OSTENSIBLY THAT SEVEN ACRE PARK REQUIREMENT WAS PUT INTO PLACE WITH THE FULL KNOWLEDGE THAT THEY EXPECTED SOME KIND OF OPEN SPACE ON THE PENINSULA, BUT THERE MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOME SUPPORTIVE CHANGES IN THIS MOST RECENT GENERAL PLAN, RIGHT? TO MAKE WHATEVER PROJECT ENDS UP NEXT DOOR A LITTLE BIT.

MM-HMM .

AND I THINK TOO THAT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IN PARKS WOULD, WOULD, UM, OPPOSE ME IF I SAID THAT OUR, PERHAPS OUR USE OF PARKS HAS CHANGED OR HOW WE UNDERSTAND HOW TO USE PARKS HAVE CHANGED.

YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S A, WHEN WE LOOK AT, AT PARKS EMBEDDED IN OUR URBAN ENVIRONMENT, WE FIND THAT THERE'S STILL A GOAL FOR HAVING SOME PASSIVE AREAS, YOU KNOW, AND SOME, SOME PRESERVED OPEN SPACES AND, AND SUCH FOR PEOPLE WALKING TRAILS, YOU KNOW, FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO GET OUT AND ENJOY IT QUIETLY, RATHER THAN HAVING A PARK SPACE THAT'S FULLY ACTIVATED WITH MULTI-USE FIELDS, UH, YOU KNOW, WATER FEATURES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO I DO, I THINK THAT, THAT, THAT COMMUNITY PARK AS DEFINED IN OUR CURRENT PLAN, CURRENT GENERAL PLAN MAY NEED TO EVOLVE EVEN, UM, TO, TO MEET THE EXPECTATIONS OF THE COMMUNITY TODAY AS OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT WAS WRITTEN IN THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS.

UM, THE OTHER POINT I THINK IS INTERESTING IS, YOU KNOW, WITH THE ADDITION OF THE BRIDGE, UH, THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE AND SUCH, WE, AND THEN THE ACTIVATION OF THE PENINSULA, WE START TO SEE SOME DIFFERENT MODES OF TRANSPORTATION TO THE AREA.

AND I THINK IT WAS ALWAYS A CONCERN IF YOU HAD THAT SEVEN ACRE COMMUNITY PARK LOCATED ON THE 500 HOPPER STREET SITE, HOW, HOW DOES IT SERVE THE COMMUNITY WHEN, WHEN ACCESS TO THAT SITE IS RELATIVELY CONSTRAINED, AT LEAST AT THIS POINT, RIGHT? WITHOUT THE CALL FIELD BRIDGE, UM, IN PLACE.

AND, AND SO I THINK THIS PARK, BECAUSE IT NOT ONLY ACTIVATES THE PENINSULA, BUT IT CREATES THOSE, THOSE, UM, NON VEHICULAR PATHWAYS TO MOVE FROM DOWNTOWN THROUGH THE PENINSULA OVER TO THE 500 HOPPER STREET SITE.

UH, THEY'VE ALSO, AS WE'LL SEE, THEY'VE ALSO LOCATED, UM, SOME ACTIVE USE AREAS ALONG THE, THE, THE WATER EDGE ON THE 500 HOPPER STREET SITE.

I THINK IT PRESENTS A, A DIFFERENT SCENARIO FOR HOW WE THINK ABOUT THE ENTIRE USE OF THE AREA FROM A COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, PERSPECTIVE AS WELL AS HOW THE COMMUNITY ACCESSES IT, AND THEN WHAT WE CAN DO WITH IT.

SO, WELL, I DID LIKE THAT ANSWER.

AND, UH, YEAH, NO, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A LOT OF CHANGE THEN, UH, DURING THE GENERAL PLAN PROCESS TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF THE SITE AND EVENTUAL ADJOINING PROJECTS.

WELL, WITH NO OTHER QUESTIONS, UH, RIGHT NOW FOR STAFF, I WILL INVITE SIERRA AND THE RIVER PARK TEAM TO COME UP AND GET READY AND, UH, DO YOUR PRESENTATION.

ALL RIGHT.

HI EVERYBODY.

IT'S FUN TO BE BACK HERE.

WE'RE, JAMIE AND I ARE SOMEWHAT USUAL SUSPECTS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS.

IT'S GREAT TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

I'M SIERRA LOREN.

I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE PETALUMA RIVER PARK FOUNDATION.

UH, PRONOUNS ARE SHE AND HER, AND I'M HERE WITH JAMIE PHILLIPS, WHO IS LEAD PRINCIPAL FROM CMG LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS, UM, AND LEAD DESIGNER ON THE PROJECT.

AND YOU'RE GONNA HEAR FROM JAMIE LATER IN THE PRESENTATION.

UM, THANK YOU TO THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE ALREADY SAT THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION MAYBE ONCE, TWICE, I'M NOT SURE.

BEEN HEARING ME TALK ABOUT IT INCESSANTLY FOR FIVE YEARS.

UM, AND, AND TO THE NEW FACES.

HELLO.

AND, AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO, TO BE INTRODUCED.

I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND YOUR, UM, COMMITMENT TO OUR COMMUNITY BY VOLUNTEERING ON THIS COMMITTEE.

UM, SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO TODAY IS JUST GIVE YOU A VERY, A, A, AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT.

UM, SPEND SOME TIME REALLY LOOKING AT THE ELEMENTS OF THE CONCEPT PLAN.

AGAIN, UM, THIS IS HIGH LEVEL, BUT STILL SPECIFIC ENOUGH WHERE WE'RE GETTING A SENSE OF WHERE THE THINGS WOULD BE, ROUGHLY WHAT SIZE, AND CERTAINLY THIS IS OUR LIST OF AMENITIES, THE WHOLE ENCHILADA IN TERMS OF WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO SEE HAPPEN AT THIS PARK AND WHAT THE FOUNDATION IS COMMITTED, UM, TO BRINGING TO LIGHT.

ALTHOUGH IT MIGHT TAKE US A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO SEE THE FULL VISION REALIZED.

UM, SO FIRST AND FOREMOST, WHY MIGHT WE BE DOING THIS? WHAT WAS THE TERM UNUSUAL PRO PROJECT, UNUSUAL

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APPROACH, WHAT'S A PRIVATE PARK? UM, BUT KIND OF BEFORE WE GET INTO THAT, UM, I LIKE TO SHARE THIS QUOTE THAT COMES OUT OF, UM, TRUST FOR PUBLIC LAND.

UM, YOU KNOW, ME AND THE OTHERS THAT WERE SITTING AROUND THE PATIO TABLE WITH MASKS ON BACK IN, UH, 2020, UM, ENVISIONING THIS PROJECT, KNEW THAT THIS WAS A GREAT IDEA.

WE KNEW IT WAS A ONCE IN A LIFETIME OPPORTUNITY THAT THIS LAND WAS VACANT AND ON THE MARKET AND READY TO BE A COMMUNITY PARK.

BUT AFTER STUDYING PARKS AROUND THE WORLD FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS, UM, I'M MORE ENTHUSIASTIC THAN EVER.

UH, I WOULD WOULD ARGUE THAT NO SINGLE PUBLIC AMENITY DELIVERS AS MUCH COMMUNITY BENEFIT AS A PARK, PHYSICAL BENEFIT, PHYSICAL HEALTH, MENTAL HEALTH, SOCIETAL HEALTH.

UM, I WOULD SAY THAT THEY ARE SOME OF THE LAST BASTIONS OF, UH, PUBLIC SPACE AND DEMOCRACY, UM, THAT ARE FREE AND ACCESSIBLE TO ALL IN THIS COUNTRY AND, UM, GREAT FOR THE EARTH AND ALL OF THE THINGS.

SO, UM, TO MAKE A LONG STORY SHORT, PARKS ARE MEDICINE, AND THESE ARE A COUPLE OF IMAGES OF JUST THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN THE PARK, AND THAT'S BEEN OPEN SINCE 2020.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, WE, AND I'M JOINED HERE BY SEVERAL OF THE BOARD MEMBERS FROM THE FOUNDATION, UM, HAVE, HAVE SEEN PROOF ON THE GROUND OF THIS IDEA OF WHAT DOES IT, WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO CREATE A SHARED PLACE, UM, THAT CONNECTS PEOPLE ART AND NATURE IN OUR COMMUNITY? AND, AND WE'VE SEEN THE PROOF OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, AND THE PROOF IS IN THE OVER A THOUSAND DONORS THAT HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THE PROJECT, UM, THE, THE COUNTLESS COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE PARTICIPATING WITH THEIR TIME AND THEIR TREASURE TO ENVISION WHAT THIS PLACE WANTS TO BE.

UM, SO I WOULD ARGUE THAT EVEN MORE THAN FIVE YEARS AGO, WE NEED THIS KIND OF THING NOW MORE THAN EVER.

UH, AND THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY OF A LIFETIME.

TO HAVE THIS AMOUNT OF OPEN ACREAGE IN THE HEART OF THE CITY, ON THE RIVER IS JUST UNPRECEDENTED.

UM, SURE THERE ARE EXAMPLES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY OF ACTUALLY POST-INDUSTRIAL WATERFRONTS BEING RETURNED TO THE PUBLIC SPHERE.

UM, BUT THIS IS A REALLY SIZABLE CHUNK OF LAND, UM, YOU KNOW, WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF DOWNTOWN, WITHIN THE HALF MILE OF PUBLIC TRANSIT AND INHERENTLY BEAUTIFUL AND RICH IN HISTORY.

UM, AND SO THE IDEA THAT THIS COMMUNITY WANTS TO NOT JUST PERHAPS FILL THIS WITH BUILDINGS AND CONCRETE, BUT WANTS TO CENTER THE IDENTITY OF OUR RIVER TOWN AROUND THE RIVER AND REALLY PUTTING THE RIVERFRONT INTO THE COMMUNITY, UM, COMMUNITY HANDS, UM, IT'S ULTIMATELY BEEN PRIVATIZED SINCE THE 19TH CENTURY.

UM, WE HAVE OUR LITTLE POCKET PART PARKS ON H AND G STREET, BUT OTHERWISE, WHERE CAN YOU YEARLY GET ON THE RIVER? UM, THIS IS RETURNING IT TO THE PUBLIC AND CERTAINLY THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY OUTREACH, THAT'S BEEN ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS WE'VE HEARD IS ACCESS TO THE RIVER, ACCESS TO THE RIVER, UM, AND WHAT A GLORIOUS THING FOR A COMMUNITY TO KIND OF, UM, THINK ABOUT ITS IDENTITY AS REALLY WANTING TO PRIORITIZE A RELATIONSHIP WITH NATURE, UM, AND HOW HUMANS CAN LIVE IN HARMONY IN THAT SYSTEM.

UH, SO JUST QUICKLY, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE FOUNDATION.

WE WERE FOUNDED IN 2019 WITH THE EXPLICIT PURPOSE OF ACQUIRING THE MCNAIR PENINSULA AND TRANSFORMING IT INTO A PUBLIC PARK.

UM, WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY, UM, AT THE BEGINNING OF LAST YEAR TO ACQUIRE THE ADDITIONAL ACREAGE ON 500 HOPPER THAT ANDREW'S DONE A GREAT JOB EXPLAINING, ALL TOLD IT'S 65 ACRES IN TOTAL, 35 OF WHICH ARE BEING BROUGHT BEFORE YOU AS THE THE PUBLIC PARK, UM, COMPONENT.

UH, WE ALSO HAVE KIND OF OVERWHELMING SUPPORT.

EVERYTHING FROM CONGRESSMAN HUFFMAN TO, UH, THE MASTER GARDENERS HERE IN TOWN ARE ALL EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT.

UM, AND IT REALLY IS THE COALITION IN THE VILLAGE THAT'S GONNA MAKE THIS HAPPEN, INCLUDING THE INCREDIBLE PARTNERSHIP OF THE CITY.

UH, HERE'S WHERE WE AT BIG PICTURE IN THE TIMELINE OF THE PROCESS, WHERE THIS VERY EXCITING MILESTONE WHERE WE'VE, WE'VE WE'RE CONCLUDED WHAT WE'VE CALLED THE END OF THE DREAMIT PHASE, WHERE WE'VE WORKED EXTREMELY CLOSELY WITH THE COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE FULL VISION OF THE PARK IS, THE FULL EXPRESSION OF THAT VISION.

AND NOW WE'RE TURNING OUR ATTENTION, UM, TOWARDS THE BUILD IT.

SO IT'S GONNA BE ABOUT TWO YEARS OF TECHNICAL DESIGN, DEVELOPMENT, PERMITTING FUND MEETINGS LIKE THIS, UH, AND FUNDRAISING, UH, WITH THE ANTICIPATION OF US OPENING A PHASE ONE IN IN THE SUMMER OF 2028.

I'LL JUST FLASH THIS HERE, JUST A LIST OF OUR SUPPORTERS I MENTIONED EARLIER, SO JUST A SECOND ON THE DESIGN TEAM, WHICH IS ACTUALLY ACTIVELY GROWING AND IT'LL BE FUN TO COME BACK HERE IN THE FALL AND SHOW THE, THE FULL ROSTER OF ARCHITECTS AND CIVIL ENGINEERS AND EVERYBODY WE'RE TALKING TO NOW.

BUT, UM, THE CORE TEAM THAT'S GOT US TO THIS POINT, UM, HAS, I'LL GO FROM MY RIGHT TO THE LEFT HERE.

GREG MOORE, UM, WAS THE, UM, FOUNDING CEO OF THE GOLDEN GATE NATIONAL PARKS OF CONSERVANCY, UH, WHICH FOUNDED A LITTLE PROJECT CALLED CHRISSY FIELD AND HAS PRETTY MUCH BROUGHT TO LIFE EVERY SAN FRANCISCO BAY AREA, GOLDEN GATE NATIONAL RECREATION PARK PROJECT, UM, OF THAT AMAZING COMPLEX IN SAN

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FRANCISCO.

UM, AND GREG WAS THE FOUNDING CEO, AND NOW HE'S RETIRED.

HAHA.

HE CONSULTS ON PARK PROJECTS FROM NEW ZEALAND TO BRITISH COLUMBIA.

AND I'M NOT BLOWING SMOKE WHEN I SAY THAT WE ARE HIS FAVORITE PROJECT, AND HE MIGHT HAVE TURNED DOWN LIVING IN NEW ZEALAND FOR A YEAR SO HE COULD KEEP WORKING WITH US.

SO ANYWAYS, UM, GREG IS A PHENOMENAL, ANYONE IN THE PARKS WORLD KNOWS HIM.

HE, UM, THROUGH AND THROUGH, WE ALSO WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH KIMSON CREATIVE, THAT'S A LOCAL COM UH, PETALUMA BASED, UM, ARTS AND EQUITY, UM, FIRM THAT IS SPECIFICALLY HELPED US WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY, UM, THROUGH THE CONCEPT PLAN DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

AND I'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT IN A SECOND.

UH, UH, PROSKY CHAT INC.

ALSO KNOWN AS PCI, UM, MIGHT BE A FIRM YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH.

THEY DO A LOT OF PARK, UH, PARTNERSHIP WITH THE SONOMA COUNTY REGIONAL PARKS, UM, INCLUDING THE HELEN PUTNAM EXPANSION.

WHAT'S REALLY COOL ABOUT PCI IS THEY'RE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS, BUT THEY HAVE ALL THEIR SCIENTISTS IN HOUSE.

SO RATHER THAN SUBCONTRACTING FOR ALL OF THOSE THINGS, THEY REALLY TAKE THE RESTORATION AND ECOLOGY, UM, COMPONENT THAT'S AT THE, THE FRONT OF THEIR BUSINESS.

UM, AND SO, AND THEY KNOW SONOMA COUNTY ECOLOGY VERY, VERY WELL, WHICH IS REALLY EXCITING TO HAVE THEM ON THE TEAM.

UM, AS YOU'LL SEE, ABOUT 80% OF THE PLAN IS FOCUSED ON RESTORATION AND PLANTING.

UM, AND JAMIE, WHO'S BESIDE ME, AND YOU'RE GONNA HEAR MORE FROM, UM, YOU SEE HER ON THE SCREEN WITH ARTURO, ANOTHER DESIGNER FROM CMG LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS.

THEY'RE BASED OUT OF SAN FRANCISCO.

AND WHY WE DECIDED TO WORK WITH CMG WAS BECAUSE THEY EXCLUSIVELY DO PUBLIC PLACE DESIGN AS LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS, AND ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY IN THE BAY AREA, WITH A REAL DEEP EXPERTISE AROUND, UM, WATERFRONTS AND SEA LEVEL RISE.

THEY'RE WORKING ON PROJECTS IN ALAMEDA, TREASURE ISLAND, MISSION BAY, AND SAN FRANCISCO, NUMEROUS PARKS THERE THAT ALL ARE REALLY LOOKING AT A VERY SIMILAR KIND OF HABITAT TO OURS, RIGHT? WE ARE ON A TIDAL BODY OF WATER, WE'RE ANTICIPATING SEA LEVEL RISE.

UM, WE'RE HAVING TO DEAL WITH STORM WATERS, INCREASED STORM INTENSITY, ET CETERA.

SO, UM, ONE OF THE REASONS WE DECIDED TO WORK WITH CMG, UM, BUT THE ICING ON THE CAKE, I HAVE TO ADMIT IS ARTURO, WHO'S NOT HERE TONIGHT, BUT IS ON THE SLIDE.

UM, ARTURO HAPPENED TO, WE DIDN'T KNOW THIS AT THE TIME, GROW UP IN PETALUMA, MOVED HERE FROM MEXICO WHEN HE WAS EIGHT, WENT THROUGH THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM, ACTUALLY IN METAL SHOP AT PETALUMA HIGH DESIGNED THOSE LITTLE EGG BRONZES THAT WE SEE ON TOP OF THE THINGIES DOWN LIKE THAT IS ARTURO'S WORK.

AND HIS MOM STILL LIVES, ACTUALLY, UNTIL RECENTLY LIVED TWO BLOCKS FROM THE PARK.

AND SO, WHAT A, IT'S JUST VERY EXCITING TO HAVE HIM ON THE PROJECT AS A, AS A HOMETOWN GUY, GETTING TO GIVE BACK.

SO I ALWAYS HAVE TO GIVE MY SHOUT OUT TO ARTURO.

UM, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS.

SO THE VENN DIAGRAM HERE IN THE MIDDLE IS THE SIMPLIFICATION OF WHAT WAS ACTUALLY A PRETTY COMPLEX AND RESOURCE INTENSIVE, UM, PROCESS, AND WE'RE STILL FOLLOWING IT.

UM, WE WERE COMMITTED TO BEING COMMUNITY LED FROM THE GET GO, STARTING AS A COUPLE OF PEOPLE, UM, SITTING AROUND A KITCHEN TABLE, AS I MENTIONED, BUT WITH THE INTENT THAT THIS WAS GONNA BE A PARK FOR ALL THAT, UM, TRULY A PARK FOR ALL.

AND SO ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS WE NEEDED TO DO WAS EXPAND THAT GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT WERE WORKING ON IT, RIGHT? UM, A RELATIVELY HOMOGENOUS GROUP OF FOLKS ARE NOT GONNA SUCCEED IN DESIGNING A PARK THAT IS, UM, WELCOMING, UM, TO ALL.

AND SO, UH, WE EMBARKED ON A, ON A ROBUST COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS.

THE LENSES THROUGH WHICH WE WERE, UM, DRIVING TOWARDS WHERE WE ENDED UP WERE THE, OBVIOUSLY THE, THE MISSION OF THE ORGANIZATION, WHICH IS TO CREATE A SHARED PLACE FOR PEOPLE ART IN NATURE, UM, WHAT THE LAND ALLOWS, WHICH IS REALLY, UM, EXHAUSTIVE SITE SURVEYS AND STUDIES TO UNDERSTAND THE HISTORY AND THE CURRENT, UM, STATE OF THE, OF THE LAND ITSELF AND WHERE THE HABITAT AND RESTORATION OPPORTUNITIES.

UM, AND THEN, UH, THE GREEN CIRCLE AT THE TOP, REALLY LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT ARE THEIR NEEDS AND DESIRES AT A BROAD LEVEL, AND THEN HOW CAN THE PARK, YOU KNOW, UNIQUELY MEET THOSE NEEDS.

AND SO, WORKING WITH KIMS IN, WE FOLLOWED A REALLY, UM, APPROPRIATE PROCESS FOR US THAT, UM, THEY LIKE TO CALL ART IS DATA.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS AROUND BREAKING DOWN BARRIERS TO PARTICIPATION IN PLANNING PROCESSES LIKE THIS, UM, OF COURSE YOU WANNA BE CULTURALLY COMPETENT AND YOU WANNA DO THE LOGISTICS, RIGHT? IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, WHEN PEOPLE AREN'T WORKING, IS THERE CHILDCARE? IS THERE FOOD? ARE YOU, YOU KNOW, COMPENSATING FOR THEIR TIME? BUT ALSO PART OF THAT IS MAKING IT ACCESSIBLE AND FUN AND NOT INTIMIDATING.

UM, AND SOMETIMES MORE, UH, TRADITIONAL FOCUS GROUPS AND SURVEYS AND WHATNOT, UM, THEY, THEY, UH, AREN'T AS ENGAGING.

AND I GUESS THE, THE THING I'M REALLY TRYING TO SAY IS, IF YOU WANT PEOPLE TO REALLY OPEN UP, YOU'RE ASKING THEM WHAT ARE YOUR HOPES AND DREAMS FOR YOUR COMMUNITY AND HOW CAN I HELP? THAT'S NOT A CONVERSATION YOU GET ON A PIECE OF PAPER FILLING OUT A COUPLE OF FORMS IF YOU REALLY WANT MEANING.

SO WHAT WE DID IS WORKED WITH A VARIETY OF ARTISTS, UM, TO DO THESE ART AS DATA COLLECTION PROCESSES.

EVERYTHING FROM POETRY WORKSHOPS TO LIVE VISUAL MIRRORING.

UM, I DON'T EVEN, I CAN'T EVEN REMEMBER NOW, JAMIE.

LOTS COLORING, COLORING BOOKS THAT WENT INTO 507 OR SECOND THROUGH SEVENTH GRADE CLASSROOMS HERE IN PETALUMA, THANKS TO HEALTHY PETALUMA

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FOR THE DISTRIBUTION SHOUT OUT.

UM, AND, AND SO WHAT BROUGHT TO BEAR IS A REALLY, REALLY RICH DATA SET.

SO WHILE WE DID IT AS IN AN ARTISTIC, CREATIVE WAY, IT ALL WAS PROCESSED THROUGH A VERY RIGOROUS, UM, METHODOLOGY THAT, UM, LOOKED FOR THE DATA, THIS, THE QUANTITATIVE, UM, PIECES THAT WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PRIORITIES OF THE COMMUNITY WERE.

AND YOU'RE GONNA SEE THOSE MANIFEST IN THE PARK HERE TONIGHT.

UM, JUST QUICKLY, LASTLY, ON THIS ENGAGEMENT PROCESS, THESE, WE HAD TIERED LEVELS OF ENGAGEMENT AND AT THE DEEPEST LEVEL WERE OUR COMMUNITY PARK DESIGNERS, UM, 15 FOLKS, UM, THAT WERE ALL REPRESENTATIVE OF, UM, EQUITY PRIORITY POPULATIONS, WHICH, UM, WAS A GROUP OF NINE COMMUNITIES THAT WE IDENTIFIED EARLY ON AS GROUPS THAT HAVE HISTORICALLY BEEN EXCLUDED FROM PUBLIC PLACEMAKING AND PLANNING, UM, BROADLY IN OUR SOCIETY AND REALLY WANTED TO, TO CENTER THEIR VOICES.

AND I BORROW FROM, UM, PROFESSOR DANNY DOMINGUEZ, WHO RUNS AN ORGANIZATION CALLED ON THE MARGINS HERE IN THE COUNTY, UM, WHO SAYS THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU DESIGN, UM, FOR COMMUNITIES AT THE MARGINS, YOU DESIGN FOR ALL, 'CAUSE YOU DESIGN FOR EVERYBODY IN BETWEEN.

AND, UM, SO WE WORKED WITH THESE FOLKS FOR A YEAR AND THEY WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH THE DESIGN TEAM AND WE HAD A TON OF FUN.

UM, AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT COMMUNITY PARK DESIGNERS, .

ALL RIGHT, I'M GONNA TURN THINGS OVER TO JAMIE WHO'S GONNA SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.

I CAN'T REMEMBER NOW WHAT COLOR IT WAS, BUT THE SITE ANALYSIS COMPONENT, OTHER THINGS WE LEARNED DURING DISCOVERY, AND THEN, UM, SHE'LL GO OVER THE COMPONENTS OF THE CONCEPT PLAN AND WE'LL DO A Q AND A AFTER.

THANKS.

HI EVERYONE.

THANKS SO MUCH.

UM, WE'RE REALLY HAPPY TO BE AT THIS STEP TONIGHT AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

UM, WE DID DISCOVERY WHEN WE STARTED OUT TAKING, TAKING A LOOK AT SITE ANALYSIS OF THE PENINSULA AND THE RIVER AND DOWNTOWN.

AND, UM, THIS DIAGRAM KIND OF REPRESENTS FOR US THIS ONGOING TRANSFORMATION OF THE RIVER IN THE MIDDLE OF THE VALLEY AND IN THE MIDDLE OF PETALUMA OVER TIME.

YOU KNOW, ORIGINALLY IT WAS THIS MEANDERING RIVER SL, UM, THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE VALLEY.

AND THEN OVER THE 150 200 YEARS, UM, THE HUMANS AND THE INHABITANTS OF THE VALLEY SHAPED IT AND CHANGED IT.

AND WE KIND OF LIKE SEE THIS, JUST THAT CHANGE OVER TIME REALLY SPEAKS TO THE, UM, HISTORY OF PETALUMA AND THE HISTORY OF THIS, UM, PLACE WHERE WE'RE PROPOSING A PARK.

THAT IDEA OF TRANSFORMATION REALLY SHOWS ITSELF IN THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THE PENINSULA SITE AND THE 500 HOPPER SITE.

THE DREDGE SPOILS REPLACED FOR YEARS, UM, FROM THE RIVER AND THE CHANNEL UP ON THE, UM, UH, PENINSULA.

SO PENINSULA'S REALLY QUITE HIGH.

AND WHILE HISTORICALLY IT WAS A TITLE MARSH AND A WET MEADOW TODAY, IT'S A GOOD 15 FEET OUTSIDE OF THE TITLE RANGE.

SO THAT GIVES US LIKE BOTH, UM, IT GIVES US OPPORTUNITIES TO THINK ABOUT WHAT'S THE TRANSFORMATION FOR THE FUTURE.

UM, ALSO LOOKING TO THE FUTURE.

WE'RE THINKING THROUGH HOW THE TEMP THE CLIMATE WILL CHANGE.

WE WILL HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, LONGER DROUGHTS IN THE FUTURE.

IT WILL BE HOTTER, BUT THEN WHEN WE DO HAVE RAIN, IT'S GOING TO BE MORE SEVERE AND, UM, UH, MORE RAIN IN THE SHORT BURSTS THAT WE HAVE.

UM, AND THEN IT'S GONNA TO BE, IT'S GONNA BE HOTTER IN THE FUTURE AND THERE ARE GONNA BE MORE DAYS THAT IT IS HOTTER.

SO ALL OF THESE COMPONENTS LIKE HELP US POINT TOWARD WHAT'S THE FUTURE ECOLOGY FOR THIS PLACE, WHAT ARE THE TYPES OF TREES AND PLANTS THAT ARE GOING TO WANT TO BE MIGRATING HERE FROM THE SOUTH A LITTLE BIT, UM, 50 AND A HUNDRED YEARS FROM NOW.

AND THEN I REALLY APPRECIATE ANDREW'S, UM, PRESENTATION FOR THE CONTEXT THAT WE'RE OPERATING IN, BUT ALSO US THINKING THROUGH THAT.

THE RIVER PARK IS IN THE MIDDLE OF DOWNTOWN, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CITY, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN MIDTOWN AND DOWNTOWN.

WE JOKE A LOT THAT IT'S LIKE THE PLACE THAT'S KIND OF HIDDEN IN PLAIN SIGHT.

SO MANY PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT YOU CAN GO OUT ON THIS VERY INTERESTING PENINSULA AND THEN EXPERIENCE AND BE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE RIVER.

UM, BUT WE'RE ALSO, YOU KNOW, IN A VERY AWESOME PLACE RELATED TO THE SMART TRAIN.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE POTENTIAL FOR IMPORTANT TRAIL LINKAGES ACROSS, UM, AND THEN THE NATURAL ECOLOGY THAT WE'RE GONNA BE OPERATING WITHIN IN THE RIVER.

SO THE CONCEPT PLAN, UM, IS PRESENTS A FULL VISION FOR THE 35 ACRES OF THE PETALUMA RIVER PARK.

AND OUR, UM, THINKING FOR THIS CONCEPT PLAN, AGAIN, IT'S THE FULL VISION.

UM, AND LIKE SIERRA SAID,

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OUR HOPE IS TO REALIZE THE FULL VISION, EVEN IF WE HAVE TO DO IT THROUGH A FEW PHASES AND BROADLY AS WE WORKED WITH THE COMMUNITY AND THEN ARTICULATED THE DESIGN OF THE PARK, WE'VE KIND OF ORGANIZED IT AROUND THREE PRIMARY PRI PRINCIPLES, CONNECT FOR SUCCESS, NURTURE, NATURE, AND UPLIFT COMMUNITY.

UM, UM, SO NURTURE NATURE IS, THIS IS THE IDEA THAT GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A LOT OF ECOLOGICAL RESTORATION THROUGHOUT THE PARK, AS WELL AS BEING VERY PURPOSEFUL ABOUT HAVING NATURE OR WILDNESS ACCESSIBLE RIGHT HERE IN THE MIDDLE OF TOWN SO THAT PEOPLE DOWNTOWN MIDTOWN CAN WALK OVER TO THE PARK AND REALLY FEEL LIKE THEY ARE, UM, IN NATURE AND NOT HAVING TO GO QUITE AS FAR TO HELEN PUTNAM OR SCHOENBERGER, BUT VERY PURPOSEFUL WILDNESS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PARK.

AS WELL AS AN IDEA AROUND, UM, WE CALL IMMERSIVE NATURE, THAT EVEN THOUGH WE'RE GONNA HAVE THINGS FOR PEOPLE TO DO IN THIS PARK, OUR INTENTION IS THAT THEY FEEL IMMERSED IN NATURE WHILE THEY'RE PLAYING BASKETBALL, WHILE THEY'RE PICNICKING WITH THEIR FRIENDS.

UM, SO THAT WE HAVE ALL OF THIS BALANCED ACROSS, UM, THE SITE.

UM, AND SO WORKING WITH PR, KRINSKY, CHATHAM, AS WELL AS CMG AS WELL, WE'RE ACTUALLY VERY INTO THE NATIVE PLANT COMMUNITIES, I WOULD SAY WHERE MOST OF OUR PROJECTS ARE, UM, EMPHASIZED PLANTING CALIFORNIA NATIVE SPECIES.

'CAUSE WE ARE LOOKING TO VERY MUCH REINFORCE THE, UM, SPECIFIC PLANT BIODIVERSITY NEEDED FOR THE CALIFORNIA, UM, SPECIES THAT NEED IT.

UM, SO THE GENERAL IDEA IS TO HAVE A COLLECTION OF NATIVE PLANT COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE PARK AREAS.

UM, THIS IS KIND OF A MOSAIC OF WHAT THOSE MIGHT LOOK LIKE.

AND ONE THING THAT MIGHT BE DIFFERENT IN THE FUTURE IS MORE TREES, UM, OUT AT THE PARK.

UM, THAT'S BOTH FOR THAT IDEA OF SHADE AND HOW IT'S GONNA BE HOTTER IN THE FUTURE, BUT ALSO LEANING INTO THAT IDEA THAT WE'RE QUITE HIGH, QUITE A WAYS OUT OF THE TIDAL RANGE.

AND SO WE CAN START GETTING INTO, UM, DIFFERENT PLANT COMMUNITIES AT HIGHER ELEVATIONS.

SO THINGS LIKE OAK WOODLAND, LIKE THE UPPER PITCHER AND EVEN OAK SAVANNAH WITH KIND OF LIKE WILDFLOWER MEADOWS IN CERTAIN AREAS.

WE WILL ALSO CREATE AND RESTORE TIDAL MARSHES.

UM, IN THIS DIAGRAM YOU CAN SEE A TINY LITTLE GREEN EDGE AROUND THE EDGE OF THE PENINSULA.

THAT'S OUR EXISTING, UM, TIDAL MARSH.

UH, IT'S BECAUSE THIS BANKS ARE SO STEEP, THERE'S ONLY A VERY SKINNY AREA WHERE THOSE SPECIES, UM, CAN EXIST RIGHT AT THE RIGHT TIDE RANGE.

SO WE ARE PLANNING TO ALSO CREATE MORE PLACES FOR MARSH.

WE WOULD BE, UM, GRADING IN A MARSH AND WE CALL EARLY MARSH IN THIS DIAGRAM.

BUT THEN WE ARE ALSO MAKING SPACE AND AN EVEN SLOPE, UM, INTO THE PARK THAT ALLOWS FOR THAT MARSH TO TRANSITION UPLAND OVER TIME WITH SEA LEVEL RISE.

UM, BECAUSE WHEN WE DO THESE MARSH RESTORATIONS, WE ARE ALSO LOOKING FOR THAT LONG-TERM FUTURE FOR A MARSH.

UM, AND THEN WE ALSO, UM, WE HAVE THE VERNAL POOL AT THE END OF THE PENINSULA THAT EXISTS THERE TODAY.

SO THIS IS A FRESH WATER FEATURE, UM, AND WE WILL, UM, BOTH PROTECT IT IN THE WAY IT WORKS NOW AS WELL AS PLANT, UM, THE SPECIES AND HABITAT THAT ENHANCE ITS, UM, HABITAT VALUE.

AND WE WILL BE LOOKING TO DO, UM, RIVERBANK STABILIZATION, THAT'S BIO TECHNICAL, MOSTLY USING LOGS AND RIVER WATER SO THAT WE'RE PROVIDING MORE HABITAT FOR THE AQUATIC SPECIES IN THE RIVER.

UM, SO IN ENLARGEMENT OF SOME OF THESE, THIS VIEW JUST TO KIND OF SHOW SOME OF THESE IDEAS, THIS WOULD BE THAT EARLY MARSH HERE IN THE FOREGROUND, AND THEN YOU CAN SEE, UM, SOME OF THE TREES IN THE BACKGROUND.

AND THEN AS WE ARE KIND OF GRADING DOWN, UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE HAVE THIS KIND OF LIKE CLOSER RELATIONSHIP TO THE RIVER ON THE LEFT SIDE, UM, CONNECTS TO SUCCESS, CONNECT FOR SUCCESS.

BIG, UM, POINT, UM, HERE AS WELL, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE BRIDGE.

UM, THAT IS LIKE ONE OF OUR MOST EXCITING ELEMENTS.

THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT HOPE, HOPING TO DO THE BRIDGE IN PHASE ONE.

UM, BUT AGAIN, OUR RELOCATION IN THE MIDDLE OF TOWN, OUR LOCATION CLOSE TO THE BUS TRANSIT MALL AND THE SMART TRAIN, UM, GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE A PLACE, UM, WHERE PEOPLE CAN WALK OR BIKE OR USE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION TO GET TO THIS PARK.

UM, AND THEN WITH THE BRIDGE

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SHOWN IN THIS DIAGRAM, YOU CAN SEE THE SOLID LINES ARE EXISTING PATHWAYS AND THE DASHED LINES ARE LIKE PATHWAYS THAT ARE PROPOSED FROM VARIOUS PLANS, BUT ALSO WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO DO ON THE, UM, PARK SITE AS WELL.

AND, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE VERY KEEN FOR THE CONNECTION THAT GOES UNDER THE 1 0 1 OVER TO ALMOND MARSH.

UM, WE'RE VERY KEEN TO SUPPORT THAT AND BE A PART OF THAT HAPPENING.

AND THEN AS WELL AS SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO COPELAND TO THE NORTH, UM, TO CONNECT OVER TO THE LYNCH CREEK TRAIL.

UM, SO THOSE TWO, IT DOESN'T LOOK VERY LONG.

IT'S LIKE TWO BLOCKS, GET THOSE LINKS IN AND WE ARE LIKE CONNECTING LIKE ALL THE WAY ACROSS, UM, PETALUMA AND THEN DOWN TO THE SHELLENBERGER MARSH, UM, OFF STREETS AWESOME BIKING AND PET EXPERIENCE.

DO YOU WANNA, I WAS JUST GONNA MENTION THAT SMART PATHWAY AND BARRY OR RIDGE TRAIL ALSO WOULD BE USING THIS AS, AS A CONNECTION POINT, RIGHT? UM, AND THEN WITHIN THE PARK ITSELF, WE KIND OF HAVE, WE HAVE A NETWORK OF PATHS.

WE, THE MAIN ONE THAT IS PART OF THE RIDGE WOULD BE PART OF THE RIDGE TRAIL.

WE'RE CALLING THE PROMENADE COMING ACROSS THE PENINSULA, ACROSS THE BRIDGE, CONNECTING DOWN TO THE RIVERFRONT NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND THAT ONE WE'RE PROPOSING PROPOSING TO BE ABOUT 20 FEET WIDE, WHILE WE HAVE ANOTHER ADDITIONAL SYSTEM OF PATHS 10 FOOT AND THEN SIX FOOT WIDE, SO THAT WE HAVE LIKE A VARIETY OF CHARACTERS OF, UM, PATHS AND EXPERIENCES THROUGHOUT THE PARK PROPOSING THAT ALL OF THESE ARE ACCESSIBLE QUICK SECTION OF THE PROMENADE AND THE ABILITY FOR THAT TO HAVE BIKES, FIT BIKES IN BOTH DIRECTIONS, SIX FOOT WIDE IN BOTH DIRECTIONS, AS WELL AS SPACE FOR PEDESTRIANS 20 FEET WIDE AS WELL, SO THAT WE CAN, UM, GET A FIRE TRUCK OUT THERE IF WE NEED TO.

AND THEN, UM, LET'S TALK ABOUT ACCESS A LITTLE BIT.

WE, UM, THE PARK'S NOT SUPER ACCESSIBLE.

THAT IS ONE OF OUR, UM, NEGATIVES OR A CON A CONSTRAINT THAT WE HAVE TO REALLY WORK THROUGH.

UM, IF YOU'RE WALKING FROM THE SMART TRAIN, IT COULD TAKE YOU 10, 10 MINUTES TO GET OVER TO 500 HOPPER AND IT COULD TAKE YOU NINE TO 10 MINUTES TO GET OVER TO THE PENINSULA SIDE.

SO IT'S, THAT'S PRETTY FAR.

THERE'S THE PARKING LOT AT D STREET AND EVEN FROM THE D STREET PARKING LOT, IF YOU WERE GOING OUT THERE WITH A FAMILY AND YOU'RE CARRYING A BUNCH OF GEAR, UM, YOU'RE, YOU'RE WALKING QUITE A WAYS.

AND SO WE ARE PROPOSING A PARKING AREA ON THE 500 HOPPER SITE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, PRIMARILY SO THAT FAMILIES AND UM, SENIORS OR THOSE WITH DISABILITY HAVE EASY ACCESS TO THE PARK.

AND YOU CAN SEE THERE THAT WE'RE SHOWING THAT IT'S ABOUT A 10 MINUTE, EIGHT MINUTE WALK, UM, OVER TO THE KIND OF CENTER OF THE PETALUMA, THE HEART OF THE PARK, SIT CENTER OF THE PENINSULA.

UM, BUT UM, WE NEED TO DO A LOT MORE WORK ON THAT TEMPORARY PARKING LOT.

UM, THAT'S SHOWING ABOUT A HUNDRED SPACES.

UM, AND WE NEED TO KIND OF LIKE WORK OUR WAY THROUGH, UM, MORE DESIGN AND MAKE SURE WE'VE KIND OF GOT THINGS SIZED CORRECTLY.

UM, AND OR MAYBE IT DOESN'T WANNA BE ONE PARKING LOT ALTOGETHER.

AND IT'S ALSO POSSIBLE AS WE WORK THROUGH WHAT THE FUTURE OF THE REST OF THE 500 HOPPER SITE MAY BE, THAT PARKING FOR THE PARK MAY BE INCORPORATED, UM, IN THAT FUTURE WORK AS WELL.

SO WE KIND OF THINK OF IT AS A TEMPORARY FOR NOW, KNOWING THAT WE NEED GOOD ACCESS IN THE EARLY DAYS.

UM, BUT IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE CONTINUE TO EVOLVE.

THIS IS THE POINT YOU MADE EARLIER AROUND THE COPELAND.

YEAH.

AND THEN LASTLY, UPLIFT COMMUNITY.

UM, THE WORK WE DID WITH THE COMMUNITY, THEY BROUGHT A LOT OF GREAT IDEAS FOR LIKE, FOR WHAT THEY WANTED TO SEE IN THIS PARK.

EVERYTHING BASICALLY THAT WAS ASKED FOR IS INCORPORATED.

UM, AND UM, WE WORKED WITH OUR COMMUNITY GROUPS TO UNDERSTAND THE RELATIONSHIPS OF THESE DIFFERENT PROGRAM ELEMENTS, WHICH THINK SHOULD BE CLOSE TO EACH OTHER OR IN, UM, SEPARATE FROM EACH OTHER.

BUT THIS IS THE, UM, THE STUFF OF DOING THINGS TOGETHER IN THE PARK IS THE LIKE WHY PEOPLE, UM, COME TOGETHER, UM, AND TO BE TOGETHER AND HERE.

UM, WE'RE SHOWING LIKE THAT COLLECTION OF THE THINGS TO DO.

UM, IN THE PART THAT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PENINSULA, WE CALL IT THE HEART OF THE PARK.

IT HAS A PLAYGROUND, IT HAS LARGE PICNIC GATHERING AREAS, SAY FOR LIKE A FAMILY GROUP OF ALMOST A HUNDRED COULD GATHER THERE AND HAVE A BIRTHDAY PARTY.

THERE'S A FLEXIBLE FIELD, UM, I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT MORE.

THERE'S A PLACE TO GET FOOD AND A RESTROOM.

SO THERE IN THE HEART WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE A SPACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME

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SPEND FOUR TO SIX HOURS THERE COMFORTABLY SPEND THE DAY WITH THEIR FRIENDS AND FAMILY ACROSS FROM THAT HEART OF THE PARK.

ON THE HOPPER SIDE, UM, IS AN AREA THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE ACTIVE.

IT'S GOT, UM, BASKETBALL COURTS, PICKLEBALL, COURTS, UM, PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO PLAY GAMES.

UM, AND WE WANTED TO REALLY HAVE THAT CONNECTION ACROSS THE CHANNEL IN THE MIDDLE, UH, OF THE PARK.

UM, WE HAVE A VARIETY OF THINGS WE CALL FLEXIBLE FIELDS, UM, AND THAT IS LIKE LEANING INTO OUR NEED TO BE FLEXIBLE AND ALLOW THINGS TO KIND OF CHANGE IN THE FUTURE.

SO THESE FLEXIBLE FIELDS ARE NATURAL GRASS.

THEY'RE MEANT TO BE FOR PLAYING INFORMAL SOCCER OR PICKUP GAMES.

THEY'RE NOT KIND OF LIKE FORMAL, UM, SPORTS AREAS, BUT THEY'RE PLACES THAT PEOPLE CAN GATHER AND PLAY ALL KINDS OF GAMES.

OH, I DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THE AMPHITHEATER.

I MIGHT AS WELL.

I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT IT IN, THERE'S ALSO AN AMPHITHEATER PERFORMANCE SPACE ON THE 500 HOPPER SITE AND THEN A COLLECTION OF LIKE SMALLER GATHERING AREAS THROUGHOUT PLACES TO SIT.

UM, SO THIS IS THE VIEW OF THAT HEART OF THE PARK.

UH, THE FAMILY IS HAVING A BIG PARTY.

THERE'S A GRILL, THE PLAYGROUND THERE IN THE BACKGROUND.

WE THINK OF THIS AS ALMOST LIKE A REGIONAL DESTINATION PLAYGROUND, HOPING IT'S GONNA BE REALLY AWESOME.

THE PLAY FIELD IN THE BACK TO THE LEFT.

AND, UM, IN ADDITION TO THOSE KIND OF LIKE FLEXIBLE, UM, NATURAL GRASS, UH, FIELDS WILL ALSO HAVE THOSE, A SPORTS SERIES OF SPORTS COURTS.

THOSE ALSO WE'RE KIND OF THINKING THAT WE MAY MULTIS STRIPE THEM, UM, SO THAT, UH, MAYBE BASKETBALL IS POPULAR, BUT VOLLEYBALL FITS ON THE SAME SIZE COURT SO THAT WE CAN GET A LOT OF DIVERSITY, UM, AND CHANGE AND SOMETHING FOR EVERYONE.

BUT WE HAVE ALSO PURPOSELY HEARING FROM THE TEENAGERS, THEY NEED TO BE A LITTLE FURTHER AWAY FROM EVERYONE.

SO THERE'S KIND OF WILL BE AN AREA THAT'S A LITTLE MORE TEENAGER ORIENTED, UM, LIKE THE BASKETBALL, WHEREAS THEN THE PICKLEBALL LITTLE BIT FURTHER AWAY FROM WHERE THE TEENAGERS ARE.

BUT TRYING TO HAVE A LOT OF DIVERSITY AND SOMETHING FOR EVERYONE TO ENJOY.

UM, RIVER ACCESS IS, IS VERY IMPORTANT.

UM, THE RIVER IS DEFINITELY THE RIVER AND THE CHANNEL ARE, YOU KNOW, THE MAGNIFICENT FEATURES OF THE PARK, AND WE HOPE TO ENHANCE THOSE AND CONNECT PEOPLE TO THE RIVER.

UM, SO WE WILL BE PROVIDING A KAYAK LAUNCH OFF THE HOPPER STREET SIDE, AS WELL AS CREATING, UM, SOMETHING WE CALL A PERCHED BEACH.

THIS MEANS THAT IT'S WILL LOOK LIKE A BEACH.

IT'LL PROBABLY FEEL LIKE A BEACH, BUT IT IS GOING TO BE, UM, HIGHER IN ELEVATION THAN THE HIGH TIDE LINE.

SO THAT IS NOT ALWAYS INUNDATED.

UM, AND WOULD HAVE A WAY LIKE BUILT INTO THE BANK, STABILIZATION A WAY FOR KAYAKS TO, UM, ACCESS THE BEACH.

SO WE'LL BE PROVIDING TWO, UM, WATER ACCESS KAYAK ACCESSES ALONG THE WATER TRAIL.

SUPPOSED TO BE A GREAT FISHING LOCATION.

MM-HMM .

UM, SO JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE HERE AROUND UPLIFT COMMUNITY.

UM, JAMIE MENTIONED THE AMPHITHEATER POSITIONED ON THE, UM, 500 HOPPER SIDE.

UM, THIS IS A RESPONSE TO BOTH OUR MISSION TO BE, UH, TO PROVIDE BOTH VISUAL AND PERFORMING ARTS PROGRAMMING, AS WELL AS THIS CLEAR MANDATE WE GOT FROM OUR COMMUNITY WORK.

UM, THE, THE THINKING AROUND THE AMPHITHEATER IS THAT, UM, AGAIN, THIS IDEA OF FLEXIBILITY AND VERSATILITY.

WE WANNA HAVE LIKE AN INTIMATE COMMUNITY PERFORMANCE WITH, I DON'T KNOW, 30 PEOPLE THAT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE YOU'RE IN THIS BIG FACILITY THAT'S EMPTY.

UM, BUT ALSO TO BE ABLE TO FLEX INTO, YOU KNOW, A LARGER EVENT OF A COUPLE HUNDRED FOLKS.

AND THAT'S WHERE THE LAWN IS, IS, UM, POSITIONED THE WAY THAT YOU SEE IT HERE.

THERE'S SOME COMFORTABLE SEATING IN THE FRONT AND THEN SPILLING OUT TO MORE OF A, A INFORMAL, UM, VENUE.

UH, AND LOVE THE NOTION OF THIS BEING ON THE RIVER WITH THE BACKDROP OF THE RIVER.

UM, BEHIND.

UH, IN ADDITION, UH, WE WILL ALSO BE, UM, FORMULATING A VISUAL ART PROGRAM.

UM, SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW THAT WE HAVE A WORLD RENOWNED SCULPTURE, CUL SCULPTURE BY A WORLD RENOWNED SCULPTOR OUT ON THE PROPERTY MARK DE SUV ROSE'S, UM, HRU, UH, THAT WAS INSTALLED, UH, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.

UH, AND WHILE WE ARE STILL PUTTING TOGETHER THE DETAILS OF THE MASTER ARTS PLAN, UM, THERE WILL BE A VISUAL ROTATING VISUAL ART, UM, AS PART OF THE, OF THE PROGRAMMING AT THE PARK.

IN ADDITION, UM, WE DEFINITELY HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY, AGAIN, THIS OPPORTUNITY TO TELL STORIES AT THIS SITE.

IT IS BOTH THE SYMBOLIC AND PHYSICAL LITERAL CENTER OF THE VALLEY, UM, AND HAS THUS THE RIVER AS THEY OFTEN DO, , UH, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT HUMAN ACTIVITY IN LIFE FOR OVER 10,000 YEARS IN THIS VALLEY.

SO, UM, RECOGNIZING, UH, THE HISTORY YOU'RE PROBABLY VERY FAMILIAR WITH, AND THAT'S BEEN TOLD AROUND STEAMER, YOU KNOW, THE SITE

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OF STEAMER LANDING WHERE THE STEAMERS CAME IN, AS WELL AS THE BARGES AND THE RAILROAD AND THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE MODERN ERA.

BUT ALSO A LOT OF UNTOLD STORIES TOO THAT HAVE CONNECTION TO THIS SITE.

UM, ONE IN PARTICULAR THAT CAME OUT THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS WAS AROUND, UH, CHINESE IMMIGRANT EXPERIENCE AND THEIR INVOLVEMENT.

UM, IN THE EARLY DAYS OF DREDGING ON THE RIVER BEFORE IT WAS MECHANIZED WITH STEAM SHOVELS, JOHN MCNAIR WAS THE LARGEST EMPLOYER OF CHINESE IMMIGRANTS IN PETALUMA AT THE TIME.

UM, MCNAIR PENINSULA, MCNAIR CHANNEL.

UM, SO THIS STORY IS NOT ONE THAT I GREW UP LEARNING IN MY PUBLIC SCHOOL DAYS HERE IN PETALUMA.

UM, AND IT'S CERTAINLY ONE, I KNOW THAT THE HISTORY MUSEUM IS ALSO, UM, UH, DOING QUITE A BIT OF WORK ON.

AND WE ACTUALLY GOT A GRANT TO, UM, FROM THE STATE COASTAL CONSERVANCY TO SUPPORT SOME, SOME ORIGINAL RESEARCH AROUND THAT STORY IN ADDITION TO, UM, THE LATINX HISTORY, UM, RELEVANT TO THE SITE AND, UM, THE COAST ME WALK STORY AS WELL.

AND SO THAT'S SOME OF THE WORK THAT WE'RE FOCUSING ON, BUT THE OPPORTUNITY REALLY IS WRIT LARGE THAT THIS SITE WANTS TO TELL THE BROADER COLLECTION OF STORIES AND HISTORY.

CERTAINLY EVEN JUST THE, UM, SITES ONE CAN VIEW FROM THE PENINSULA OF THE HISTORIC GRAINERY AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT OYSTER SHELLS USED TO BE PROCESSED JUST DOWN THE ROAD.

ALL SORTS OF THINGS THAT WE CAN BE TALKING ABOUT.

THERE'S STILL A LITTLE BIT OF THE REMNANTS OF THAT SHIPWRECK IN THE CANAL AT LOW TIDE.

YOU CAN SEE IT, I DON'T KNOW IF, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A SHIPWRECK IN THE CANAL.

YOU CAN SEE IT AT LOW TIDE.

IT LOOKS LIKE A BUNCH OF LOGS, BUT IT'S STILL COOL.

UM, ANYWAYS, THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THE COMMUNITY REALLY WANTS TO SEE, AND WE'LL BE WORKING PRIMARILY WITH PARTNERSHIP ON HOW WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA TELL THOSE STORIES.

SO WE'VE TALKED A LOT.

WE'D LOVE TO HEAR YOUR GUYS' THOUGHTS AND FEEDBACK.

UM, AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION.

WELL, THANK YOU.

AND THANK YOU FOR A TERRIFIC PRESENTATION.

I'VE GOT TO SEE IT THREE TIMES NOW, , AND IT'S BEEN GREAT EVERY TIME.

UH, SO NOW WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO OUR COMBINED COMMITTEES HERE FOR QUESTIONS FOR THE PROJECT TEAM OR STAFF.

UH, AND I WILL GIVE THE GUIDELINES THAT, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY WE TRY TO HAVE THINGS END WITH A QUESTION MARK AND AVOID FROM LAUNCHING INTO OUR COMMENTS.

I'M USUALLY THE BIGGEST PERPETRATOR OF THAT, UH, BUT I WANNA PUT THAT OUT THERE.

SO WHO CAN VOLUNTEER TO GET US STARTED WITH ANY QUESTIONS FOR OUR PROJECT TEAM? NICOLA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO KICK US OFF? UM, I, IT'S NOT THAT I HAVEN'T BEEN INVOLVED IN MANY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE PARK, BUT I STILL HAVE QUESTIONS.

UM, AND, BUT I LOVE THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE TAKING, OUR COMMENTS AND REALLY IMPLEMENTING THEM.

UM, THAT FEELS REALLY GOOD.

A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

UM, WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT PERME PATHWAYS.

MM-HMM .

IS THAT JUST THE PROMENADE WALK, OR WILL IT BE THE MAJORITY OF PATHWAYS? UM, YOU, WE HAVE TO WORK THROUGH THE RIGHT SURFACE FOR ACCESSIBILITY SO THAT WE MAKE IT EASY FOR EVERYONE TO GET OUT HERE.

UM, WE ALSO, BECAUSE IT'S A PARK, REALLY, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE WHAT'S CALLED SELF-TREATING.

SO IF IT, IF IT DOES RAIN ON A PATHWAY AND IT SLOPES SIDEWAYS, WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT RAINWATER IS CLEANED AND CAPTURED.

UM, AND SO SOMETIMES WITH PERMEABLE PAVERS, THEY'RE NOT AS ACCESSIBLE.

SO IT WILL REALLY, WE WILL REALLY NEED TO DO THE RESEARCH AND WE'LL REALLY NEED TO WORK WITH YOU ALL TO FIND THAT RIGHT BALANCE ON MAKING SURE WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING WITH STORMWATER ACCESSIBILITY AND SUSTAINABILITY IN PETALUMA.

YEAH, THAT'S PRIMARILY WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT BEING, UH, UH, MOST OF THE TIME WHEELCHAIR USER.

MM-HMM .

UM, IS THAT RIGHT NOW I'VE GONE TO THE PARK ONLY ONCE BECAUSE I REALLY CAN'T GO VERY FAR INTO THE PARK, ALTHOUGH I'D LOVE TO.

UM, AND SO I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT HOW HOW MUCH OF THE PARK CAN BE USABLE BY SOMEONE WHO IS USING A WALKER OR A WHEELCHAIR, UM, SORT OF THING.

UM, AND THEN I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT OYSTER COVE.

OKAY.

, WE ALL KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE OR WHAT'S NOT HAPPENING THERE MM-HMM .

UM, IS THERE ANY PLANS TO TRY TO GET THAT LAND? BECAUSE I JUST THINK THAT THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE LIKE AN EXTENSION.

I, I REALIZE IT'S A BIG PIECE OF LAND.

IT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME THAT'S BEEN SAID, UM, ESPECIALLY IN THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS.

UH, WE ARE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE NEW ENTRANCE FROM D STREET COMING UP ALONG THE RIVER, UM, AND HAD SOME ACTUALLY EXCITING PLANS IN THE WORKS WITH THE DEVELOPER THAT'S ON HOLD AT THIS MO POINT.

SO IT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT THING.

RIGHT NOW.

WE CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO, TO ACQUIRE ANY ADDITIONAL LANDER OR PROJECTS, UM, GIVEN THAT WE'RE A SMALL NONPROFIT AND OUR DONORS HAVE ALREADY STEPPED UP SO GENEROUSLY TO MAKE THIS VISION REAL.

UM, THERE THERE'S JUST A LIMIT , AND YEAH.

IF THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTION WELL ENOUGH YEAH.

'CAUSE THAT QUESTION'S COVERED, BUT WE'RE CHEERING IT ON AT SEVERAL OTHER MEETINGS I'VE BEEN IN.

IS WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH THAT AND COULD IT BE INCLUDED IN SOMEHOW? I MEAN, IF I, I'LL JUST SAY MY PIECE, WHICH

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IS, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE, THIS WHOLE AREA IS TRANSFORMING.

THERE'S A LOT OF VACANT LOTS.

THERE'S A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT HAVE STOPPED AND STARTED, ESPECIALLY IF YOU, LIKE, START LOOKING ACROSS THE STREET FROM D STREET.

RIGHT.

AND WE COLLECTIVELY WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS AS A HIGH PRIORITY WITH THE CITY, WHICH I BELIEVE IT ALREADY IS, AND HOW WE CAN ALL WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE, MAKE THINGS MAKE SENSE RATHER THAN PATCH WORK AND PIECEMEAL.

IT'S SOMETHING WHERE WE REALLY CARE A LOT ABOUT, RIGHT? LIKE, WE WANT THIS PARK TO MAKE SENSE WITH ALL THE SURROUNDING CHANGE THAT'S COMING AND HOW CAN WE WORK SYNERGISTICALLY TOGETHER TO ACHIEVE OUR MUTUAL GOALS.

OKAY.

I'LL ALSO SHARE AS PART OF THAT, THAT IF YOU RECALL, THE OYSTER COVE PROJECT HAD THAT PROMENADE ALONG THE RIVER EXTENDING FROM D STREET THROUGH THE PROJECT AND THEN ONTO STEAMER LANDING PARK.

THAT, THAT WAS, UH, BOTH A DESIRE OF THE PROJECT, BUT THEN IT WAS ALSO REQUIRED BY THE RIVER ACCESS AND ENHANCEMENT PLAN.

SO ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF, OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN REFERRING TO AS THE OYSTER CO SITE WILL ALWAYS HAVE THAT PROMENADE IN THERE.

WHAT SIERRA WAS REFERRING TO WAS, UM, A MORE EXPANSIVE VISION OF THE OYSTER SHED, WHICH IS SITUATED THERE RIGHT AT, AT D STREET, IN THE RIVER ACTUALLY BECOMING INTEGRATED INTO THE PARK ENTRANCE.

AND SO, SO THAT'S, UH, UNFORTUNATELY, YES, THAT'S ON HOLD AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

YEAH, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

UM, AND THEN I ONLY HAVE A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS.

UM, DOES THE FOUNDATION HAVE IDEAS FOR WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO FOR THE LAND THAT, THE ADDITIONAL LAND THAT YOU'RE GOING TO POSSIBLY, IS IT MID-LEVEL HOUSING? IS IT, UM, LOW INCOME HOUSING, OR HAVE YOU EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT WHERE THAT'S GOING TO GO? YEAH, THANKS FOR THE QUESTION.

SO, UM, WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN ON THE NON-PAR PORTION OF HOPPER AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

WE'RE REALLY JUST BEGINNING TO PUT OUR ANALYSES TOGETHER ABOUT WHAT THE POTENTIAL IS, UM, WITH OUR GOAL BEING THE PARK AS OUR PRIMARY GOAL AND DELIVERY.

AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS, I THINK IT WAS MENTIONED, UM, BY, UH, COMMISSIONER, UM, MC, CAROLYN, UM, SORRY IF I PRONOUNCED YOUR NAME WRONG, ROGER, UM, THAT, UM, THE SUSTAINABILITY OF THE PARK IS, IS AT THE FORE OF OUR MINDS.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE A PRIVATE NONPROFIT AND IT'S ONE THING TO FUNDRAISE TO BUILD A SEXY NEW PARK.

IT'S ANOTHER THING TO TAKE OUT THE TRASH FOR A HUNDRED YEARS.

SO WE'RE REALLY LOOKING TO THAT HOPPER SITE TO CREATE A SUSTAINABLE BUSINESS MODEL FOR THE PARK'S LONG-TERM OPERATIONS AS OUR HIGHEST PRIORITY IN ALIGNMENT WITH OUR VALUES AND SOMETHING THAT'S SYNERGISTIC WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD WE'RE REALLY TRYING, OR THE PLACE WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE.

AND I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION THAT'S KIND OF OFF THE TRACK.

UM, THERE'S BEEN SOME CONCERN ABOUT THE WAYFARING SIGNS THAT YOU MIGHT BE PUTTING OUT, PARTICULARLY, UM, GUIDING PEOPLE WHO HAVE DISABILITIES TO THE AREAS THAT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO GET TO.

NOT JUST BICYCLE SYMBOL OR WALKING SYMBOL, BUT A ROLLING SYMBOL.

UM, AND THAT'S SOME OF THE THINGS THAT OCCUR IN PARKS THAT ARE REALLY WELL RECEIVED BY PEOPLE WHO ARE DISABLED.

AND THEN IT DOESN'T OCCUR IN MOST OF THE PARKS.

AND SO YOU GET TO SOMETHING YOU THINK YOU CAN DO BECAUSE IT SAYS AN ACCESSIBLE PARK, AND THEN YOU GET TO THE ENTRANCE AND REALIZE I CAN'T GO MORE THAN TWO FEET IN AND I HAVE TO TURN AROUND.

YEAH.

THAT'S A GREAT NOTE.

THANK YOU FOR THAT COMMENT.

I KNOW WE'RE ALSO WANTING TO WORK CLOSELY WITH THE CITY'S BROADER WAY FINDING INITIATIVE THAT I BELIEVE IS IN THE WORKS.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT'LL BE DISTINCT BUT SOMEHOW INTEGRATED.

RIGHT.

BECAUSE GREAT TO HAVE GOOD WAY FINDING AT THE PARK, BUT WE GOTTA GET PEOPLE THERE FIRST AND FOREMOST.

BUT THAT'S A, THAT'S A GREAT, UM, COMMENT.

I LOVE THAT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER FRY.

GREAT QUESTIONS.

ANYONE NEXT TO VOLUNTEER COUNCIL MEMBER BARN? YEAH.

FIRST ONE IS A PROCESS QUESTION FOR, UM, ANDREW.

UM, THE DESIGN GUIDELINES THAT WERE INCLUDED WITH OUR STAFF REPORT, ARE WE GIVING INPUT ON THOSE? THERE'S NO ACTION ITEM TONIGHT.

WHAT IS THE, WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR ON THE DESIGN GUIDELINES, I GUESS? UH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

RIGHT.

SO THESE ARE ARE DRAFT GUIDELINES.

THEY'VE, THEY'VE BEEN EVOLVING, UM, ESPECIALLY RECENTLY AS, AS THE PROJECT HAS, HAS SORT OF HAD A, A SHIFT IN THE INTENSITY OF THE CONCEPT DESIGN WORK.

I THINK WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IN IS FROM THE, FROM BOTH THE COMMISSION AND THE COMMITTEE THIS EVENING, IS JUST A SENSE OF THE LEVEL OF DETAIL THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE DESIGN GUIDELINES.

UM, IS IT, IS IT SUFFICIENT? DO WE NEED MORE DETAIL? UM, THAT I THINK IS REALLY WHERE WE'RE AT.

SO, YOU KNOW, FOR INSTANCE, YOU, I IMAGINE THAT YOU ARE, UH, PROVIDING SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW OF, SAY, THE AMPHITHEATER OR, OR RESTROOMS THAT ARE DEVELOPED FIVE YEARS FROM

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NOW.

CAN YOU LOOK AT THOSE DESIGN GUIDELINES AND GET SUFFICIENT GUIDANCE FROM THEM TO, TO, UH, MAKE SOME DECISIONS ABOUT, UM, THE PROJECT? THANKS, UH, FOLLOW UP QUESTION TO THAT.

UM, WILL WE BE, IS THERE LIKE A FINALIZATION, WILL THERE BE AN ACTION ITEM TO FINALIZE THE DESIGN GUIDELINES, RIGHT? IS THAT RIGHT? SO THAT'LL COME BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION? CORRECT.

OKAY.

SO WHEN THE, WHEN THE SPAR APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED, THE DESIGN GUIDELINES WILL BE SUBMITTED AS PART OF THE APPLICATION.

WHAT I WOULD ENVISION IS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD WORK THROUGH THE DESIGN GUIDELINES AT THAT POINT IN TIME.

THEY COULD AUGMENT THEM, UM, MODIFY THEM, AND THEN ULTIMATELY WE MIGHT SEE A CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT WOULD SAY THAT, UM, FUTURE PHASES OF THE PARK SHALL BE, UM, SHALL BE REVIEWED THROUGH THE ADMINISTRATIVE SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECT OR SITE SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW PROCESS MUST BE CONSISTENT WITH THE, WITH THE DESIGN GUIDELINES THAT ARE APPROVED AS PART OF THIS PROJECT.

AND THAT, UM, THEN THE DIRECTOR CONTINUES TO HAVE THE RIGHT TO ELEVATE A PROJECT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR REVIEW.

APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU.

UM, OKAY.

NOW, QUESTIONS FOR YOU? UH, SO I REALLY APPRECIATED THE, LIKE WHEN I LOOK AT THE PICTURES, THERE'S SO MUCH INCLUSIVITY, LIKE WHOEVER YOU ARE, YOU CAN PROBABLY FIND YOURSELF IN THERE.

UM, THE, THE ONES THAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT ARE LIKE, UM, MENTALLY DISABLED PEOPLE, PEOPLE WHO HAVE SENSORY ISSUES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

JUST MAKING SURE THAT, UM, PLAYGROUNDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT ARE GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, ALSO ACCESSIBLE.

I REALLY LOVE SEEING THE PERCH BEACH AND SEEING A PERSON ON A WHEELCHAIR GETTING PUSHED OUT THERE, LIKE THINGS LIKE THAT.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT THOUGHTFULNESS, BUT JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THAT THAT'S ALSO BEING CONSIDERED.

MM-HMM .

YOU MIGHT WANNA ANSWER THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHICH PART? INCLUSIVITY, ACCESSIBILITY, AND THE, YOUR GUYS' WORK IN PARKS .

UM, WELL THE FIRST PART WITH THE SENSORY, UM, IDEAS, LIKE, WE HAVE DONE A FEW INCLUSIVE PLAYGROUNDS, UM, SO THAT, UH, WE HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH THAT AS WELL AS THEN ACCESSIBILITY, YOU KNOW, IT'S A STATE CODE, EVERYTHING SHOULD BE ACCESSIBLE, .

UM, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF, UH, REQUIREMENTS THAT WE EXPECT TO FULLY REALIZE THROUGHOUT THE PARK, UM, FOR EQUAL ACCESS.

MM-HMM .

UM, OKAY.

UH, AND THEN, SO THE OTHER ONE IS, I'M JUST GONNA THROW IT OUT, DOGS, HOW ARE YOU? LIKE, WHAT'S THE PLAN FOR DOGS? UM, THEY, UH, LIKE I KNOW I JUST HAD A COMMUNITY MEETING WITH THE RIVERFRONT COMMUNITY AND LIKE ONE OF THEIR COMPLAINTS WAS THAT LIKE, THERE'S NO DOG PARK OVER THERE AND PEOPLE ARE LIKE, ARE RUNNING THEIR DOGS ON THE SOCCER FIELD.

AND NOW THERE'S ALREADY ISSUES WITH THE NATURAL TURF SOCCER FIELD.

AND 'CAUSE THERE'S JUST NO DESIGNATED PLACE.

AND I'M JUST WONDERING IF IT'S LIKE ANYTHING GOES WITH DOGS, THERE'S A DOGS ON LEASH, WHATEVER.

I, I JUST, THE REALITY IS, IS THAT I THINK WITH THE, ALL THE PEOPLE THERE, THERE'S GONNA BE DOGS AND THINKING ABOUT HOW THEY'RE TREATED IS SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.

TOTALLY.

UM, WE DO HAVE A DOG PARK, UM, AND A FENCED DOG AREA.

I, I DIDN'T MENTION IT SPECIFICALLY.

UM, BUT YES, IT WILL BE, WE WILL HAVE A DOG PARK.

IT HAS A FENCE AROUND IT.

IT'S PLACES FOR DOGS TO GO OFF LEASH AND SOCIALIZE.

AND ONE OF THE REASONS IS BECAUSE WE ARE REALLY, UM, NATURE FORWARD AND BIODIVERSITY FORWARD.

UM, AND SO WE'RE NOT PLANNING TO HAVE DOGS OFF LEASH.

AND ONE OF THE WAYS THAT IS MANAGED IN PARKS IS TO HAVE AN AREA OF WHERE DOGS CAN BE OFF LEASH.

UM, WE ALSO DID HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY, UM, IN SEVERAL SESSIONS THAT IT SEEMED BETTER TO THEM TO HAVE A PLACE WHERE DOGS WOULD BE ENCLOSED OFF LEASH SO THAT PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T FEEL AS SAFE AROUND DOGS, UM, KIND OF HAD THAT SENSE OF SAFETY AS WELL.

NO, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT.

I DIDN'T SEE IT, SO APOLOGIES IF I MISSED IT.

NO, I DIDN'T MENTION IT SPECIFICALLY, BUT, AND THEN OTHERWISE, DOGS ALLOWED IN THE PARK ON LEASH AT THIS POINT, EVERYWHERE.

GREAT.

UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I, I GUESS I'LL JUST, UM, ANOTHER TAG ON TO WHAT, UM, COMMISSIONER FRY SAID, UH, AROUND FINANCIAL VIABILITY AND SUSTAINABILITY.

AND I'M JUST WONDERING HOW, LIKE, THE VISION IS ENORMOUS.

IT'S AMAZING.

UM, I LOVE IT.

AND I JUST FEEL LIKE YOU'RE PUTTING A LOT OF FAITH IN LIKE THE NEXT PHASE IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE THAT YOU CAN CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN IT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND JUST LIKE THE REALITY OF LOOKING AT HOW OUR PARKS HAVE BEEN MAINTAINED AT OUR CITY.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE JUST MAKING SURE THAT, LIKE, YOU'RE JUST WONDERING HOW YOU'RE PLANNING FOR ALL THAT, I GUESS.

YEAH, THANKS FOR THE QUESTION.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE ARE HARD AT WORK AT OUR PHASE ONE CALCULATIONS.

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WHAT CAN WE RAISE? WHAT CAN WE BUILD WITH WHAT WE THINK WE CAN RAISE? AND ONE OF THE PIECES OF IT IS, IS, UM, WE CALL IT THE, THE CAMPAIGN TO BUILD AND SUSTAIN THE PARK BECAUSE WE HAVE AT LEAST A RUNWAY OF FIVE YEARS OF OPERATING BUILT INTO THAT CAMPAIGN FOR PHASE ONE.

UM, BUT YEAH, THE LONG-TERM MAINTENANCE IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT, I MEAN IS, THAT'S HENCE WHY WE'RE LOOKING TO THE, UM, REMAINING PORTION OF HOPPER STREET TO EARN REVENUE FOR THE LONG-TERM SUSTAINABILITY OF, OF THE PROJECT.

UM, AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE Y'ALL TO, NEXT TIME YOU'RE OUT IN, UH, PERHAPS DOWN IN SAN FRANCISCO OR IN OTHER COMMUNITIES, YOU KNOW, YOU GO INTO SUCCESS, LARGE SCALE, SUCCESSFUL PARKS ALL HAVE NONPROFIT CONSERVANCY PARTNERS MAKING THEM HAPPEN.

SO, AND IN VERY, THE, THE ACTUAL GOVERNMENT CONTRIBUTIONS TO THOSE PARK VARIES WIDELY.

UH, AN EXAMPLE IS BROOKLYN BRIDGE PARK, WHICH IS A PARK THAT WAS BUILT IN THE LAST, I THINK 15 YEARS.

UM, I MEAN, GRANITE'S, NEW YORK, IT'S DIFFERENT.

AND IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO OURS.

AND IT'S LIKE A LINEAR WATERFRONT POST-INDUSTRIAL REHABILITATION PROJECT.

THE STATE ACTUALLY, AND THE CITY PAID TO BUILD THE PARK, BUT THEY DON'T CONTRIBUTE A DOLLAR TO OPERATIONS.

THE OPERATIONS ARE FULLY FUNDED BY THE ADJACENT HOUSING DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS BROUGHT ALONGSIDE THAT PROJECT.

UM, AND, AND MY OTHER POINT IS, WHEN THOSE CONSERVANCY MODELS, YOU GO TO PARKS AND YOU'RE LIKE, OH, THERE'S SO MANY COOL AMENITIES.

IF YOU GO TO CHRISSY FIELD, IF YOU GO TO TUNNEL TOPS IN SAN FRANCISCO, THAT'S THE CONSERVANCY MAKING SURE THAT THAT PARK STILLS.

AND SO THE FOUNDATION ISN'T, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE CARE ABOUT OUR SUSTAINABILITY, UM, AND WE'RE REALLY COMMITTED TO A HIGH QUALITY EXPERIENCE, UM, IF THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTION.

BUT IT'S, UH, I WOULD, WHILE I SOUND OPTIMISTIC, I WE ARE NOT POLLYANNA-ISH ABOUT THIS.

THIS IS A VERY HARD ECONOMY.

IT'S, UH, ALL THE THINGS, UM, AND PUBLIC RESOURCES DON'T SEEM TO BE, YOU KNOW, FLOWING AS FREELY AS AS IN OTHER TIMES.

SO, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE REALLY COMMITTED TO IN THE PHASE ONE IS, IS WHY YOU SEE THAT THAT FIVE-YEAR MAINTENANCE, AND WE'RE THINKING VERY MUCH ABOUT THAT AND THE DESIGN OF THE PARK, UM, THOSE CHOICES THAT WE MAKE IN DESIGN INFLUENCE THE MAINTENANCE COST VERY MUCH SO, RIGHT? SO WE'RE CONSTANTLY LOOKING AT THAT BALANCE OF QUALITY AS WELL AS DURABILITY.

UM, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THIS COMMISSION COULD MAYBE BE PAYING ATTENTION TO WHEN WE THINK ABOUT QUALITY OF MATERIALS.

YES, WE WANT THIS TO BE IMMERSED IN NATURAL NATURAL PARK, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT DURABILITY, SUSTAINABILITY AROUND, YOU KNOW, MAINTAINING IT FOR THE LONG, LONG-TERM.

SO, UM, TAKING IT REALLY SERIOUSLY, BEING AS, UM, CAUTIOUS AS WE CAN AND, AND LOOKING AT OTHER PARKS CONSTANTLY AS COMPS FOR, FOR MODELS.

DID YOU WANNA ADD ANYTHING, JAMIE? GREAT.

AND THEN, UH, MY FINAL QUESTION, UM, IS AROUND THE DECISION TO, UM, PULL THE RESIDENTIAL AWAY FROM THE INDUSTRIAL USE, WHICH PERSONALLY I LIKE, BUT ALSO IT TAKES IT OUTTA THE HALF MILE ZONE FROM THE SMART STATION WITH, WHICH KIND OF CREATES SOME POTENTIAL LIMITATIONS IN TERMS OF, OF FLEXIBILITY ON THE, ON THE DESIGN AND CAPABILITIES.

CAN YOU JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT DECISION AND, UM, WELL, UM, YEAH, THAT'S KIND OF WHY WE CALL IT TEMPORARY PARKING BECAUSE, UM, THE AREA WHERE WE HAVE THE PARKING, WE ARE THINKING THOSE MAY BE FUTURE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PARCELS SO THAT THERE'S STILL WITHIN THE QUARTER MILE FROM THE SMART TRAIN.

UM, BUT WE'RE KIND OF LIKE USING THAT AREA FOR THE PARKING IN THE NEAR TERM UNTIL WE KIND OF CONTINUE WITH THE REST OF THE, UM, PLANNING.

GREAT QUESTIONS.

UH, ANY OTHER VOLUNTEERS? COMMISSIONER M LANE? YEAH.

UM, VERY NICE OPPORTUNITY.

BEAUTIFUL PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU.

UM, ONE QUE THE BIG QUESTION.

UH, THE FIRST QUESTION IS ON THE ADJACENT LAND THAT IS, UM, SOUTHEAST THE, THE OLD PROJECT, THE OLD, THE MANY PROJECTS THAT WE APPROVED THERE, UM, I'M, I'M, I'M CONCERNED BECAUSE THE, HOW THAT PROJECT INTERFACES WITH A PARK AND VICE VERSUS VERY IMPORTANT MM-HMM .

AND ONE OF THE DECISIONS MADE WHEN, WHEN THIS PROJECT WAS APPROVED FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION WAS THAT WE WANTED A ROAD ON THE PARK SIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT VERSUS, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS WITH YOU.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU, YOU SHOW A GREENVILLE THERE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A BUFFER OR WHAT THAT IS.

SO I WOULD LIKE THE CITY, AND THIS IS PART OF A SPECIFIC PLAN, THIS PARCEL, NOT THE PARK, THE HOUSING.

WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT'S INTERESTING , THERE, THERE'S A SPECIFIC PLAN THAT INCLUDES IT NOW.

WELL, IT DOES, AND ACTUALLY JUST LAST WEEK WE RECEIVED A GRANT TO UPDATE THE SMART CODE AND THE SPECIFIC PLAN, THE CENTRAL PETALUMA SPECIFIC PLAN IS NEEDED.

SO,

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UH, WE WERE MORE FOCUSED ON THE SMART SITE AND THAT THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA AROUND THE SMART SITE.

BUT, UM, THERE WOULD BE A CONNECTIVITY AND CIRCULATION COMPONENT THAT MAY GIVE US SPACE TO COME OVER AND LOOK AT THAT.

YEAH.

THROUGH THAT.

I, I GUESS I DON'T KNOW WHO SHOULD DO IT.

MY SENSE IS THE CITY SHOULD GIVE SOME GUIDANCE, BUT HOW THE ROADS WORK IN THERE, HOW THEY CONNECT WITH EXISTING DEVELOPMENT TO THE SOUTH, UH, HOW THE BRIDGE TRAFFIC IMPACTS THE, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY THAT ALL NEEDS TO BE RETHOUGHT BECAUSE IT'S ALL NEW INFORMATION.

MM-HMM .

AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT DONE SENSITIVELY TO BLEND TO, TO WORK WELL WITH THE PARK AS OPPOSED TO BE A SURPRISE.

TOTALLY.

UM, SO IN THE, IN THE, UH, SECOND QUESTION IS THE, UH, IT IS ONE OF THE DOCUMENTS I THINK IN THE CITY PACKAGE SHOWED A GRID OF STREETS IN THERE, A DOTTED LINE THAT SHOWED A GRID OF STREETS.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT CAME FROM OR WHAT'S MEANT BY THAT.

UH, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

IF SOMEONE'S DE DESIGNING THINGS THAT DON'T NECESSARILY TIE TOGETHER WITH A BIGGER PICTURE, YOU KNOW, THAT DOCUMENT.

AND, AND I DON'T WANNA LOOK AHEAD TOO FAR, ROGER TO THE NEXT DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE WE'RE ON THE PARK NOW.

I MEAN, I THINK IT'S GERMANE TO DISCUSS IT, BUT, UH, WE WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIEW THAT WHEN AND IF THAT PROJECT COMES FORWARD.

WELL, I'M TRYING TO SAY WE NEED TO GIVE GUIDANCE TO THAT PROJECT BEFORE IT COMES FORWARD.

SO THE DEVELOPER KNOWS WHAT HE IS BUYING INTO AND WHAT HE NEEDS TO INTERFACE WITH.

UH, JUST LETTING 'EM SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY COME UP IS NOT A VERY ACCEPTABLE WAY.

UM, THE, THE THIRD QUESTION IS THE AMPHITHEATER.

MM-HMM .

UM, I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOUR INTENTIONS OF THE AMPHITHEATER ARE, BUT I'VE SEEN IT BLOW UP IN PEOPLE'S FACES IN TERMS OF NOISE.

MM-HMM .

MM-HMM .

I WAS PART OF A, A CITY THAT HAD THE AMPHITHEATER WITH LAGUNA LAGUNA PAGEANT OF THE MASTER'S AMPHITHEATER MM-HMM .

WHICH IN SOME PHASE, THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THE MASTER SAID, HEY, WE COULD, WE COULD LEASE THIS OUT YEAR ROUND AND MAKE A LOT MORE MONEY AS AN AMPHITHEATER AND GOOD IDEA.

'CAUSE OKAY.

SO THEY DID, BUT, BUT, AND THEY HAVE A SOUND A DECIBEL LEVEL OF 70 D YOU KNOW, D YEAH.

OKAY.

THE PROBLEM IS WHEN YOU INVITE PETER, PAUL AND MARY OR THE VILLAGE GROUP, THEY, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN SOUND LEVEL THAT THEY'RE, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE KNOWN FOR, UHHUH .

SO THEY TRYING TO GET THEM TO FOLLOW ANY KIND OF A RIGHT.

SO MAYBE IF IT'S JUST NOTHING AMPLIFIED, RIGHT.

YEAH.

NO AMPLIFIED NOISE WOULD BE FINE, BUT I, I WORRY ABOUT THE SOUND IMPACT MM-HMM .

ESPECIALLY ON OUR HOUSING PROJECT NEXT DOOR.

YEAH.

RIGHT.

YOU MAY WANNA MOVE IT MORE INTERNAL TO THE PARK TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE MORE, UH, ROOM TO, FOR THE SOUND TO DISSIPATE.

BUT IT'S A, IT IS A QUESTION IS THAT, WHAT'S THE LEVEL OF USE OF THE AMPHITHEATER? IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE MONEY CHARGE GATE.

I'M SURE IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY, BUT IT HAS IMPLICATIONS.

DO YOU WANNA, UM, THE POTENTIAL BRIDGE SOMEWHERE ON THE CITY DOCUMENT IS, IS, IS LABELED AS A, A, UM, POSSIBLE BRIDGE.

I MEAN, I THINK IT'S, IT'S REQUIRED GREAT.

WE DID, WE DID.

WE, WE AGREE.

UM, AND THE OTHER QUESTION IS, IT SEEMS LIKE IT COULD BE A WONDERFUL SYMBOL FOR NOT ONLY YOU, BUT FOR THE CITY.

MM-HMM.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME, IF WE HAVE ART MONEY COME COMPARE OR LINK TO ANYTHING THE ART MONEY GO INTO, INTO A BRIDGE DESIGN, SO MM-HMM.

UM, YOU'RE NOT ALONE IN THAT COMMENT.

OKAY.

DO YOU HEAR MY BOARD CHAIR BEHIND YOU? SO, UM, THE TEMPORARY PARKING, I, I'M NOT CLEAR ON THAT.

WHAT IS TEMPORARY PARKING BECAUSE OF FUTURE LAND USE? SO, SO YEAH.

THE PARKING LOT IS IN THAT, THAT LOCATION SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A MALLEABLE PIECE OF THE CONCEPT PLAN.

SO IF WE GO AND ARE IN CONSTRUCTION ON THE PHASE ONE OF PARKING, OR LET'S SAY PHASE ONE OF THE PARK COMES TO BEAR LONG BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE HAPPENS ON THE REMAINDER OF THE PROPERTY, A TEMPORARY PARKING LOT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN BUILD OVER, RIGHT? YOU'RE NOT INVESTING A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT, GONNA PUT A SPORTS COURT THERE AND THEN PUT A BUILDING ON TOP OF IT.

SO THAT'S THE NOTION OF WHY THE TEMPORARY, UM, PARKING IS SITUATED IN THAT LOCATION.

AND IT'S AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT WE KNOW WE NEED PARKING ON THAT, THAT ENTRANCE.

UM, BUT THE LIKELIHOOD THAT THAT PARKING THEN GETS INCORPORATED WITH WHATEVER ELSE HAPPENS OVER THERE IS, IS VERY HIGH.

UM, OKAY.

UM, THE ONLY, THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE ON THAT SITE, IT SEEMED LIKE WHATEVER ACTIVITY YOU HAVE AGAINST THE RIVER, UH, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN LIKE A 70 FOOT SETBACK IN TERMS OF NATURAL QUALITY.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE THERE.

IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE 70 FEET, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'VE GOT ENOUGH LAND THERE.

YOU COULD PUSH SOME OF THAT USE BACK

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AND PUT IT ON THE RIVER'S EDGE TO CREATE A BETTER, A BETTER, UH, CONTINUITY OF RIVER QUALITY.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, STEVE, YOU HAVE A PLAN 4, 3, 5, 4, AND THREE, THOSE ACTIVITY ITEMS ON THE MASTER PLAN GETTING THERE, JUST THE PLAN, LOOK AT IT.

SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE 75 FOOT, UM, KIND OF RIVERFRONT ENHANCEMENT, LIKE THE TRAIL AND ANY LIKE PLANTING THAT CAN ONLY BE TRAIL AND PLANTING AND NOT BENCHES OR, I JUST THINK THE, THE QUALITY OF THE NATURAL RIVERS EDGE NEEDS TO BE DOMINANT AND NOT, NOT A BASKETBALL COURT OR WHATEVER THAT IS MM-HMM .

SO I'M JUST SUGGESTING MAYBE YOU TRADE SOME OF YOUR OPEN SPACE IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION.

UM, THAT MAKES SENSE.

AND I THINK WE'RE IN ALIGNMENT AROUND THE, THE KEEPING THE RIVER BANKS OBVIOUSLY RESTORED AND NATURAL.

ONE OF THE THINGS I WILL MENTION ABOUT THIS SITE THAT MAYBE YOU CAN SEE HERE IS, SO IF YOU SEE THE BARGE THAT'S ON THE SHAMROCK PROPERTY ON THE MAINLAND, JUST ACROSS, HOLD ON, I HAVE A CURSOR.

LOOK AT ME.

GO.

UM, THIS IS ACTUALLY REMNANTS, I, I'M NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO SPEAK APPROPRIATELY, BUT THERE ARE BIG CEMENT WALLS THAT ARE THERE THAT ARE HOLDING THE RIVERBANK UP.

AND AT THIS POINT, WE'RE NOT INTENDING TO REMOVE THOSE.

UM, SO IN, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS TO PUT THE, LIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE URBAN ELEMENTS, THE SPORTS COURTS THERE.

'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S A MORE OF A, IT'S A RATHER DEGRADED, DILAPIDATED POST-INDUSTRIAL SITE, UNLIKE THE PENINSULA, WHICH, YOU KNOW, DOESN'T HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE REMNANTS ON IT.

THE ONLY CONSIDERATION IS THAT, THAT THAT USED TO BE A BARGE, UH, DRY DOCK, I GUESS.

YEAH.

YEAH.

THAT'S A NICE PIECE OF WATER.

SO WALKING ALONG THE EDGES YEAH.

MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.

OKAY.

ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU.

UM, THE, UM, QUESTION OF GUIDELINES, I'M NOT REALLY CLEAR ON WHY WE WOULD DO GUIDELINES, UH, FOR SOMETHING THAT THE DESIGN PROCESS IS GONNA GENERATE DESIGN, UH, DETAILS WE MAY WANT.

I MEAN, SO I THINK THE, I THINK THE PROCESS OF DESIGNING THE PROJECT WILL BE THE GUIDELINES AND APPROVING OF THE DES DESIGN WILL BE THE, AS OPPOSED TO GIVING, I, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'D COME UP WITH GUIDELINES ON A PROJECT.

WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, DOING.

BUT IF YOU SAID, OKAY, HERE'S THE GUIDE, HERE'S THE DESIGN, DESIGN DEVELOPMENT OF THIS DESIGN, HERE'S THE IRREDUCIBLES.

YEAH.

YOU KNOW, HERE'S WHAT, THESE ARE IRREDUCIBLE PRINCIPLES THAT GO WITH THIS DESIGN.

IF ANYTHING'S DONE, YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THESE.

SO, SO IT'S REFERRING TO SOMETHING YOU'RE DESIGNING, BUT IT'S PUTTING IT MORE IN BETTER DEFINITION.

I THINK BASED UPON ON THE DISCUSSION WITH THE DESIGN TEAM, THE, THE CONCEPT OF A MULTI-PHASE PROJECT IS NOT JUST A PROJECT THAT EVOLVES OVER YEARS, BUT IT WOULD ALSO RESPOND TO FINANCIAL RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE.

UM, AND MAYBE ADJUSTMENTS AS THE PARK LEARNS CERTAIN THINGS ABOUT IMPLEMENTATION.

SO THE, THE PROJECT THAT WOULD, WOULD BE BROUGHT FORWARD IN SPAR, WE WOULD LOOK FOR CONSISTENCY WITH A PROJECT THAT WOULD BE APPROVED THROUGH SPAR.

BUT WE WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT THERE MAY BE MODIFICATIONS TO THE PROJECT.

AND, AND SO THE DESIGN GUIDELINES WOULD HELP OVER THE PHASING OF THE PROJECT, IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PROJECT TO ENSURE THAT IF THERE ARE CHANGES TO IT, THAT IT REMAINS CONSISTENT WITH THE INTENT OF PLANNING COMMISSION WHEN THEY ADOPTED SPAR.

I, I JUST ENCOURAGE YOU TO THINK ABOUT THAT MORE IN DETAIL AND, AND THE APPLICANT AS WELL, BECAUSE I THINK, UH, THE PROCESS I'VE SEEN HERE IN THE CITY OF DESIGNING GUIDELINES HAS NOT IMPRESSED ME.

AND I WORRY ABOUT WHAT WE COME UP WITH.

WELL, THAT'S WHY WE'RE WORKING THEM THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION.

YOU'LL HAVE AMPLE OPPORTUNITY TO SHAPE THEM, OKAY? MM-HMM .

AND THEY WON'T BE, THEY WON'T BE, UM, NECESSARILY IN THE NATURE OF THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS.

SO, YOU KNOW, THOSE, THOSE HAD TO BE OBJECTIVE, THEY HAD TO BE QUANTIFIABLE MM-HMM .

WITH, WITH THE DESIGN GUIDELINES THAT THERE WOULD BE A BIT MORE SUBJECTIVITY TO THEM.

SO I THINK WE CAN DIG A BIT DEEPER AND GET INTO MORE DETAIL.

OKAY.

UM, THAT'S ALL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, ROGER.

AND THEN JOTA CORRECT ME FOR COMMITTEE MEMBER GENON, YOU CAN CORRECT ME.

TERRIFIC.

UH, PLEASE.

ALRIGHT.

UH, SO YOU BRIEFLY MENTIONED LIKE THAT YOU GOT A RE, UH, GRANT FOR RESEARCH.

UH, I BELIEVE IT WAS ON LIKE, UH, THE HISTORY OF THE MEOW PEOPLE OR THE CHINESE IMMIGRANTS, IS THAT CORRECT? UH, YEAH.

IT'S A PROGRAM THROUGH THE STATE COASTAL CONSERVANCY CALLED COASTAL STORIES.

OKAY.

AND

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IT'S SPECIFICALLY LOOKING TO DO PRIMARY RESEARCH AND THEN, UM, INTERPRETIVE SIGNAGE ESSENTIALLY, OR INTERPRETATION SOMETHING, UM, BASED ON THAT RESEARCH.

AND THE THREE STORIES WE'RE LOOKING AT ARE COAST MI WALK, LATINX, AND, UM, CHINESE IMMIGRANTS.

OKAY.

THAT KIND OF ANSWERED MY QUESTION.

IT WAS JUST GONNA BASICALLY BE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE DESIRE TO BRING ATTENTION TO THOSE HISTORIES.

HOW DOES THAT END UP GETTING IMPLEMENTED IN THE ACTUAL DESIGN OF THE PARK? YEAH, SO THE DESIGN ITSELF, UH, WELL, I SHOULDN'T SAY IT WON'T, BECAUSE THERE'S AMPLE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING ARTISTRY INTO THE DESIGN OF, OF THE FEATURES OF THE PARK.

AND I THINK THIS IS, RIGHT NOW, IT'S NOT CONCRETELY FORMED.

WE'RE ONLY AT CONCEPT.

SO AS WE GO THROUGH DESIGN DEVELOPMENT, WE'LL BE GETTING CLOSER TO THOSE, UH, PIECES.

UM, AND I THINK FROM A PROGRAMMATIC PERSPECTIVE, UM, THE PARK IS COMMITTED TO TELLING THOSE STORIES EITHER THROUGH PARTNERSHIP WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS OR OF OUR OWN, UM, MAKING, IT'S A PART OF THE PUZZLE.

WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT KIND OF WHERE THE RESOURCES NEED TO LAND IN TERMS OF PROGRAMMATIC COMMITMENT.

UM, BUT AT LEAST IN PHASE ONE, THERE WILL BE, UM, INTERPRETIVE ELEMENTS.

I, I STOP AT SIGNAGE 'CAUSE THAT'S KIND OF THE MOST BORING WAY TO PERHAPS TELL STORIES.

NOT THE MOST BORING WAY, BUT THERE'S OTHER INTERESTING WAYS LIKE COMMISSIONING ARTISTS TO DO THINGS LIKE THAT, TO BRING THINGS TO LIFE.

DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ENOUGH? YEAH.

BASICALLY.

SO JUST TO SUMMARIZE, IT'S LIKE THERE'S A COMMITMENT TO IT, BUT IT'S TOO EARLY IN THE PROJECT TO GET INTO THE SPECIFICITY OF THAT.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND WE WERE OPPORTUNISTIC ABOUT THIS GRANT THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET NOW.

SO THAT'S WHY YOU KIND OF SEE THAT PERHAPS A LITTLE GOING A LITTLE EARLIER THAN A FULL COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ABOUT THE INTERPRETATION PROGRAM AT THE PARK.

YEAH.

UNDERSTANDABLE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

GREAT QUESTION.

UH, YES, COMMITTEE MEMBER BARKLEY SAXON, UM, I'M GOING TO JUMP IN BECAUSE THAT'S VERY MUCH RELATED TO WHAT I'VE BEEN FURIOUSLY SCRIBBLING ALL OVER.

I'M SO, I LOVE THIS , I'M SO EXCITED TO LEARN MORE.

UM, AND I WAS WONDERING, AGAIN, IT'S SUPER RELATED TO WHAT ALEX WAS SAYING, IF YOU HAVE A KIND OF EDUCATIONAL, ALMOST LIKE AN OVERLAY PLAN, I'M A, I'M AN EDUCATOR.

I'M HERE IN HCPC CONTEXT AND THERE'S SO MUCH OVERLAP AND I LOVE IT.

AND I'M THINKING ABOUT ALL OF THE CALIFORNIA STATE STANDARDS THAT HIT HISTORIC AND CULTURAL, BUT ALSO ALL OF THE OTHER ONES THAT I JUST WON'T TALK ABOUT RIGHT NOW.

BUT THAT SUPER ACCESSIBLE EDUCATION IS WELL DESIGNED AND CAN BE BUILT IN EARLY.

AND, AND THEN IT'S, I'M THINKING ABOUT ALL THE CONNECTIONS THAT COULD EXIST THAT ARE VISUAL AND LITTLE KIDS CLIMBING ON DIFFERENT TYPES OF WATERCRAFT THAT WOULD'VE ONCE BEEN ON THOSE WATERWAYS WAYS THAT YOU, WHEN YOU SAID ART AS DATA, I WAS LIKE, ARTISTS PLAY AS LEARNING.

LIKE ALL OF THESE WAYS THAT, THAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT LITTLE PETALUMA WHO MIGHT NOT THINK ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE OLD AS THEIRS SUDDENLY GROWING UP AND BEING LIKE, HEY, I PLAYED ON A THING THAT LOOKED LIKE THAT.

OR I SAW A THING ABOUT THOSE, THOSE CAST IRON BUILDING FACADES DOWNTOWN.

THEY CAME UP ON A SHIP THAT LOOKED LIKE THAT THING.

MM-HMM .

UM, I JUST WAS WONDERING IF, IF THAT, AND IF IT ISN'T, IT, IT MAYBE COULD BE THOUGHT ABOUT WORKING THAT IN SO THAT AFTERWARD IT DOESN'T FEEL FORCED.

MM-HMM .

UM, YEAH, YOU'RE SPEAKING MY LOVE LANGUAGE.

I STARTED MY CAREER AS A MUSEUM EDUCATOR, UM, AND YEAH, YOU DO TOO, BUT SUCH AS PETALUMA.

UM, SO ONE OF THE THINGS, THIS ACTUALLY GOES BACK TO THE SUSTAINABILITY PIECE.

YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T BE AND DO IT ALL.

UM, AND THE POTENTIAL OF THIS PARK, GIVEN ALL THE KIND OF DISCIPLINES THAT WE'RE TOUCHING IS LIKE, IS THIS TERRIBLE MISSION CREEP , RIGHT? SO WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO STAY FOCUSED ON BEING THE SITE AND WE CONSIDER OURSELVES A HOST AND A VENUE.

BUT THE WAY ALL OF THIS, THE WAY THAT WE'RE GONNA SUCCEED IS THROUGH PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY SCHOOLS, WITH, UM, EDUCATION NONPROFITS, YOU KNOW, WHOEVER WANTS TO DANCE WITH US.

UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE HAVE VISIONS OF CINEMA THEATER AND THE AMPHITHEATER.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALL THESE.

AND SO, UM, BUT BEING A DEMONSTRATION SITE AND A SITE FOR EDUCATION IS AT THE FORE OF DESIGN.

UM, THE PROXIMITY OF THE SITE, UH, TO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, THE ACCESSIBILITY OF IT REALLY DOES MAKE IT A, A, A DREAM VENUE IN THAT REGARD.

UM, AND, AND WE'RE JUST HAVING TO WATCH OUR RESOURCES AND ARE REALLY HOPING TO DO IT THROUGH PARTNERSHIP.

SOME, UH, ORGANIZATION THAT HASN'T COME UP YET TONIGHT IS FRIENDS OF THE PETALUMA RIVER.

YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR.

THEY'VE BEEN AROUND FOR ABOUT 15 YEARS, I THINK ALREADY OUT ON THE PENINSULA AT STEAMER LANDING WITH THEIR HEADQUARTERS AT THE RIVER HERITAGE CENTER.

DO PHENOMENAL ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION WORK.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE SO JAZZED ABOUT WHEN THAT VERNAL POOL HAS A BEAUTIFUL SHADED SPOT FOR THEM TO SIT AND LIKE DO THEIR STUDIES ABOUT, AND HOW WE CAN REALLY INCORPORATE EDUCATION AND, UM, INTO THE DESIGN OF THE PROJECT IS SOMETHING WE'RE REALLY KEEN ON.

AND I'LL SAY KIND OF LIKE THE ARTS PROGRAM, IT'S, IT'S NOT FULLY DEVELOPED YET.

WE'RE FOCUSING ON, ON PLACE AND THE BONES, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA BE FILLING IN THE PROGRAMMATIC ELEMENTS.

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UM, BUT I LOVE YOUR ENTHUSIASM, .

THANK YOU.

TERRIFIC.

HIGHLIGHTING SOME REALLY IMPORTANT ASPECTS OF THE SITE CHAIR WHITLEY.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO, UM, YOU'VE MENTIONED A COUPLE TIMES ABOUT, UM, COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND, UM, THE, UH, THREE MAIN STORIES THAT YOU WANNA PORTRAY IN THE HISTORICAL CULTURAL PIECE OF IT.

UM, SO MY QUESTION IS, UM, AT THIS POINT, HOW MUCH ENGAGEMENT HAS THERE BEEN WITH THE DESCENDANT CHINESE, THE DESCENDANT LATINX AND, UM, THE FEDERATED INDIANS OF GREAT RANCHERIA? GREAT.

SO JUST TO BE CLEAR THAT WE HAVE FUNDING TO SUPPORT THE RESEARCH ON THOSE THREE STORIES, BUT THAT IS NOT THE LIMIT OF THE SCOPE.

UM, UH, BECAUSE THERE ARE JUST SO MANY COMMUNITIES, UM, EVERYONE THAT'S LIVING HERE TODAY, THAT IS SOME INVOLVEMENT WITH THIS SITE, UM, OUTREACH TO THOSE COMMUNITIES, UM, HAS BEEN VARIED AND MULTI-YEAR.

SO WE ACTUALLY DID OUR FIRST KIND OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PLAN WORK IN 2021, RIGHT? YEAH.

AFTER WE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, UM, IN PARTNERSHIP WITH SONOMA LAND TRUST.

AND WE DEVELOPED A BLUEPRINT FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAT REALLY IS MAPPING OUT HOW TO DO ENGAGEMENT AND WHAT ARE THE COMMUNITIES, WHAT'S THE LANDSCAPE HERE IN PETALUMA, AND HOW DO YOU ENGAGE WITH EACH OF THEM.

UM, SO THERE'S A VARIETY OF WAYS THAT WE'RE IMPLEMENTING THAT.

ONE IS REPRESENTATION ON OUR BOARD, UM, WHICH ISN'T COMPREHENSIVE, BUT IS, UM, CERTAINLY ASPIRE MORE THAN ASPIRING.

I WOULD SAY THAT WE ARE WORKING ON THAT GOAL AS YOU ALWAYS ARE.

UM, AND THEN OUR COMMUNITY, UH, ENGAGEMENT PROCESS LAST YEAR, SPECIFICALLY ENGAGED WITH MEMBERS OF ALL OF THOSE COMMUNITIES THAT YOU MENTIONED.

UM, AND THEN THE WAY THAT THIS RESEARCH IS HAPPENING, WHAT'S SO COOL ABOUT IT IS THAT YOU WERE HIRING A RESEARCHER THAT'S OF THE COMMUNITY THAT ALSO HAS AN EXPERTISE IN, IN PRIMARY SOURCE RESEARCH.

AND THEN THAT'LL, THAT RESEARCH IS GONNA BE VETTED AND REVIEWED BY A COMMUNITY OF PEOPLE FROM, BY A COMMITTEE OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

UM, AND THEN WHAT THE, THE FINDINGS OF THAT WILL THEN AN ARTIST WILL BE COMMISSIONED TO CREATE THE INTERPRETIVE ELEMENT THAT WILL BE IN DEBUTED ON THE PARK.

UM, AND WE'RE OBVIOUSLY THINKING ABOUT REPRESENTATION IN THAT.

UM, AND THERE'S KIND OF A VARIETY OF DEEPER DIVES THAT WE'VE DONE WITH A VARIETY OF THOSE COMMUNITIES, SPECIFICALLY WITH THE, UM, A API CHINESE IMMIGRANT STORY, UM, WORKING WITH THE PETALUMA MUSEUM, WHICH IS, IS THE FOCUS FOR THEM RIGHT NOW.

UM, AND I BELIEVE THERE'S AN EXHIBIT IN THE WORKS MAYBE FOR THE SPRING ABOUT HISTORIC CHINATOWN THAT WE'RE A PARCEL.

YEAH.

I'M PART, I'M PART OF THE PLH.

OH, RIGHT.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

SO, YOU KNOW, THIS THAT'S WONDER WORD.

YEAH.

UM, AND THEN IN TERMS OF FEDERATED INDIANS OF GREAT RANCHERIA, WE'VE BEEN BRINGING THEM ALONG THROUGH REGULAR MEETINGS SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE PROJECT.

AND, UM, IT'S WELL RECEIVED, PERHAPS NOT SURPRISINGLY, THAT IS GOING A LITTLE SLOWER THAN SOME OF OUR OTHER CONVERSATIONS, JUST 'CAUSE THEY HAVE SO MUCH ON THEIR PLATE THAT WE HAVE TO KIND OF YEAH.

THAT'S MY CONCERN WITH, UM, WITH FIGURE PARTICULARLY IS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE ANOTHER LEVEL OF RESPONSIBILITY AND, UM, THEIR CONSULT, UH, CONSULTOR CONSULTARY ROLE.

.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

AND, UM, MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS OUT FRONT AND VERY EARLY IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

YES.

SO THAT K MEANWHILE CAN TELL THE STORY THEY WANT TO TELL A HUNDRED PERCENT.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS THEY'RE AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON WAY YEAH.

THEY'RE MORE THAN AWARE.

THEY'RE KIND OF IN THE DRIVER'S SEAT WITH IT AND WE'RE AT THEIR, UM, UM, PRETTY HEALTHY CONVERSATIONS.

WE'RE HAPPY.

BUT IT, UH, THOSE STARTED IN 2019, SO YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT THE PACE THERE.

YEAH.

AND, AND ALSO WE'LL BE, UH, GREAT.

AND RANCHERIA WILL BE, UH, HAVE THE PROJECT REFERRED TO THEM FOR AB 52.

RIGHT.

THAT'S, THAT HASN'T STARTED YET AT THIS POINT? NO, NO, IT HASN'T STARTED YET.

I MEAN, I WOULD RECOMMEND DOING THAT AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE MM-HMM .

WITH THEM.

'CAUSE THEY'RE SO OVERLOADED WITH REVIEWS RIGHT NOW.

YEAH.

AND PARTICULARLY WHEN IT COMES TO SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE ON AN INTERPRETIVE LEVEL, UM, AS MITIGATION.

YEAH.

AND WELL, YES, WE CAN TALK MORE ABOUT IT.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO TAKE UP THE COMMUNAL SPACE, BUT IT'S A, I'D LOVE TO ACTUALLY FOLLOW UP WITH YOU IF YOU'D LIKE TO THOMAS AND GET YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON THAT MORE BROADLY.

YEAH, YEAH.

BRINGING THAT SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTISE TO BEAR.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UH, COMMISSIONER NEWELL, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE AND ESPECIALLY, UH, THOSE THAT HAVE CONTRIBUTED.

I THINK YOU SAID TREASURE AT ONE POINT IN YOUR PRESENTATION, TIME, TALENT AND TREASURE.

THAT'S WHAT NONPROFITS ARE ALWAYS AFTER .

YEAH.

WE'LL TAKE ANY OF THE THREE.

UH, SO OBVIOUSLY IT TOOK A LOT TO, TO BUY THIS PROPERTY, SO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HARD WORK.

UM, I WANNA RETURN TO MY QUESTION ABOUT, UH, THE STATUS OF THE, THE SITE AND THE SOIL AND WHETHER IT'S A BROWNFIELD.

RIGHT.

CAN YOU PLEASE ADDRESS THAT? MM-HMM .

THANKS FOR BRINGING IT.

BECCA .

SO WE DO HAVE, UM, REPORTS FOR BOTH THE PENINSULA AND THE 500 HOPPER

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SITE.

THERE.

THERE'S NO CONCERN ON THE PENINSULA SITE, I'M PARAPHRASING.

AND ON THE 500 HOPPER SITE, THERE IS, THERE'S AN AREA OF CONCERN THAT WE'LL NEED TO ADDRESS, BUT IT'S NOT IN THE AREAS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR PARK NOW.

SO WE HAVE TO KIND OF WORK THROUGH THAT IN THE LONGER TIMEFRAME.

COULD YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT WHAT YOU MEAN BY AREA OF CONCERN? I CAN'T EXACTLY REMEMBER 'CAUSE I DIDN'T REVIEWED THE REPORT.

REALLY.

IT, THERE'S A, THERE'S, UM, I WANNA, IT'S A GAS, YOU'RE GONNA GET A FULL REPORT AT SOME POINT, BUT IT'S, IT'S PETROLEUM I THINK, OR GAS THAT WAS SPILLED THAT AS PART OF THE OPERATIONS OF THE CONCRETE PLANT THAT'S IN THE SOIL.

MM-HMM .

AND THAT'LL NEED TO BE REMEDIATED AND THAT THAT'S WHAT WAS THERE.

YEAH.

CONCRETE PLANT.

OH YEAH.

THE POMEROY PREFAB CONCRETE PLANT WAS THERE SINCE THE FIFTIES.

WHAT, WHAT WAS THERE BEFORE THE, IT WAS, UM, GRADED, UM, FOR HOUSING, BUT, AND THEN HOUSING WASN'T BUILT AND THE CONCRETE PLANT WAS BUILT.

OKAY.

LOOK FORWARD TO UNDERSTANDING MORE ABOUT THAT.

AND WHAT'S, UH, THE, THERE'S AN ADJACENT INDUSTRIAL, UM, USE.

HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THE PARK AT VULCAN, I BELIEVE IS THE NAME OF THE, YEAH.

UH, YEAH.

SO, UM, YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE SHAMROCK, UH, ALSO SHAMROCK READY MIX CONCRETE PLANT THAT YOU CAN SEE KIND OF IN THE TOP LEFT OF THIS, UM, HERE.

UH, IT IS OWNED BY VULCAN, VULCAN MATERIALS COMPANY, WHICH IS A NATIONAL AGGREGATE COMPANY.

UM, AND THEY ARE THERE AND THEY'RE OPERATING AND THEY'RE NOT PLANNING ON GOING ANYWHERE.

AND, UM, WE'VE ACTUALLY CULTIVATED A PRETTY GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM AND THEY'RE PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT THE PARK, UM, COMING TO BEAR AND SUPPORTING THE INITIATIVE.

DOES THAT ANSWER THE QUESTION? YEAH, JUST ROUGHLY HOW, HOW MANY FEET IS IT FROM, FROM THAT CONCRETE? UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO CALL THE, THE ACTUAL INFRASTRUCTURE.

YEAH.

TWO HUNDRED AND EIGHTY TWO HUNDRED EIGHTY FEET.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

TO THE HOPPER SITE OR, RIGHT, MM-HMM .

OKAY.

UM, AND THEN MY, MY LAST QUESTION IS, IS ABOUT, UM, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND, AND HOW, YOU KNOW, AS THAT ADDITIONAL LAND IS DEVELOPED, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, BARNACLE ASKED THE QUESTION ABOUT THE, THE, WHERE THE PARKING LOT IS AND HOW THAT'S WITHIN THE, THE ZONE FOR THE SMART STATION, BUT THAT'S NOT CURRENTLY PLANNED, THAT'S POTENTIALLY IN THE FUTURE, RIGHT? AND THEN THERE'S THIS, THIS OTHER PART OF 500 HOPPER THAT'S NOT WITHIN THAT ZONE, BUT THE PARK ITSELF IS BEING DESIGNED AS A VERY INCLUSIVE SPACE.

SO HOW, HOW, WHAT, WHAT'S YOUR VISION FOR MAKING THE HOUSING INCLUSIVE? UM, YEAH, GREAT QUESTION.

UM, SO I'M GONNA RESTATE THAT WE DON'T HAVE DETAILS ON THE NON-PAR VERSION OF, OR NON-PAR PORTION OF THE PROJECT ENTIRELY.

AND, UM, FOR VARIOUS REASONS, THE SITE IS PRIMED FOR DENSE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

NOT THOSE ARE, I UNDERSTAND SEPARATE, NOT ALWAYS THE SAME THING, BUT WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE HALF MEYER RADIUS FROM THE SMART TRAIN, WHICH BRINGS TO BEAR NUMEROUS SUBSIDIES TO BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING DENSITY EXEMPTIONS, ET CETERA, WHICH MAKES THAT HIGHLY DESIRABLE TO A DEVELOPER TO, TO PUT THAT TYPE OF HOUSING IN THAT, IN THAT AREA.

UM, AND IT CERTAINLY MEETS OUR MISSION GOALS.

ONE OF THE TENSIONS, I'LL JUST BE UPFRONT THAT OUR, OUR BOARD IS GRAPPLING WITH IS THIS TENSION OF WE ARE DELIVERING A PUBLIC PARK THAT WE WANNA BE ABLE TO SUPPORT FOR.

ITS FOR, UM, AND SO THE ABILITY TO EARN REVENUE TO DO THAT IS PARAMOUNT.

AND, UM, WE ALSO HAVE OUR OWN LENS OF MISSION AND INCLUSIVITY, UM, THAT WE WANT TO EXTEND, BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIND A BALANCE BETWEEN THOSE THINGS WITH WHAT HOUSING PRO, WHAT, WHAT POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, UM, IS AVAILABLE TO US, OR WHAT OPPORTUNITIES ARE AVAILABLE TO US TO SUSTAIN THE PARK'S COMMITMENT TO BEING FREE AND ACCESSIBLE TO ALL FOREVER.

RIGHT.

THAT, YEAH.

THANK YOU FOR BEING UPFRONT ABOUT THAT.

YEAH.

THAT WAS GONNA BE MY FOLLOW-UP QUESTION WAS THE INHERENT TENSION AND YOUR LONG-TERM FUNDING MODEL.

AND THAT'S GONNA BE A FUN THING WE'RE GONNA GET TO WORK THROUGH OVER THE NEXT COUPLE MINUTES.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

TERRIFIC QUESTIONS.

UH, AND ACTUALLY JUST CLARIFYING A POINT, BASED OFF COMMISSIONER NEWELL'S COMMENTS, WE'LL SEE A SEQ A FOR THAT EVENTUAL 500 HOPPER STREET PROJECT OR THAT EVENTUAL OH, OF COURSE.

YEAH.

SO WE'LL SEE A SEQ SO WE CAN TEASE, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAS BECOME OF ANY PHASE ONES AND PHASE TWOS DONE ON THE SITE, ON PURCHASE AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.

UH, FANTASTIC.

[01:50:01]

SO I DON'T NEED TO DIVE INTO THE WEEDS THERE YET.

UM, BUT A QUICK QUESTION ON RIVER DEPENDENT INDUSTRIAL, UM, LOVED HEARING ABOUT THE CULTURAL TOUCHSTONES, HISTORICAL TOUCHSTONES, YOU KNOW, RDI IS A DI I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE ANY RDI, UH, IN THE NEXT GENERAL PLAN.

UM, ANY PLANS OR THOUGHTS AROUND IN HOW THAT WILL BE INCORPORATED OTHER THAN SIGNAGE? AS YOU SAID, SIGNAGE IS USUALLY A BASIC WAY OF COMMUNICATING THAT INFORMATION.

ARE YOU TALKING LIKE HOW WE'RE REPRESENTING THE HISTORY OF THAT ACTIVITY? Y YEAH, EXACTLY.

FOR RIVER DEPENDENT INDUSTRIAL AND JUST ANY CONCEPTS ABOUT CALLING THAT OUT? CHEEKY, LIKE, CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH THE BARGE? I KNOW IT'S NOT YOURS, BUT I JUST LOVE THAT.

BUT JUST ANY, ANY THOUGHTS AROUND THAT? WE ASKED FOR THE BARGE, FOR THE RECORD.

WE WOULD LIKE THE BARGE.

UM, 'CAUSE EVERYONE LOVES IT.

UM, WELL, SHAMROCK WILL BE THERE FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND.

SO, UM, THEY WILL PERSIST.

UM, AND ACTUALLY ONE PART, SOME OF OUR CONVERSATIONS IS ABOUT ACTUALLY SOME, UH, INFORMATION PROVIDING SOME INFORMATION ABOUT, BECAUSE WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH THE PARK IS THEY'RE GONNA HAVE MORE EYES ON THAT PLANT, RIGHT? RIGHT NOW IT'S RATHER SECLUDED.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, ONE OF OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM IS, YOU KNOW, UM, SPEAKING TO WHAT THEY CURRENTLY DO IN THE HISTORY OF THOSE OPERATIONS, UM, AS PART OF, YOU KNOW, PART ONE, SMALL PART OF THE INTERPRETIVE PROGRAM AT THE PARK.

UM, BUT CERTAINLY JUST LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT THESE OTHER STORIES, I MEAN, THE LANDMARKS YOU CAN VIEW FROM THE PARK ARE ALL, ALL THE TOP FIVE OF WHAT PEOPLE TEND TO LIKE TO LOOK AT, RIGHT? THE GREENERY AND THE, I MEAN, EVERYTHING YOU CAN SEE HUNT AND BARONS, YOU CAN SEE ALL OF ALL OF THEM, SNOW AND MOUNTAIN, ET CETERA.

AND THE REMNANTS OF, YOU KNOW, THE RAILROAD AND STEAMER LANDING AND WHAT IT WAS WITH THE SMART TRAIN ACROSS THE STREET, THE STORIES ARE THERE TO TELL ABOUT WHY THAT INFRASTRUCTURE EXISTS.

FOR SURE.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

NO, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND YOU ALREADY MENTIONED THE OYSTER SHED, WHICH OBVIOUSLY WOULD BE A GREAT TOUCHSTONE FOR, FOR THAT, UM, HISTORICAL CONNECTION.

UH, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND THEN JUST A QUICK PROCESS.

I KNOW WE'VE MENTIONED THE, THE GUIDELINES A FEW TIMES.

JUST TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND IT FULLY.

ARE WE, BY HAVING GUIDELINES, ARE WE AVOIDING FUTURE SPAR HEARINGS AND MAKING THAT A LITTLE MORE PREDICTABLE AND EASIER? OR IS IT MERELY A, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT ANY DERIVATIONS OFF OF WHAT WE DECIDE OR OFF OF, UH, FROM SPAR ARE COVERED? BECAUSE WITH ANY SPAR, THERE ARE SLIGHT DERIVATIONS THAT HAPPEN ON A PROJECT.

SO IS IT LITERALLY JUST THAT OR IS IT WE WERE WITHOUT THOSE, WE WERE ASSUMING MORE SPAR HEARINGS AT, AT PLANNING COMMISSION? WELL, WE WOULD, WE WOULD BRING THE PROJECT FORWARD FOR, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEW IN A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE FIRST, THE FIRST ITERATION OF THE PROJECT.

WE ANTICIPATE THAT THE PROJECT IS GOING TO BE, UH, SUFFICIENTLY DEVELOPED ENOUGH TO GIVE A CLEAR EXPECTATION OF HOW IT WILL EVOLVE OVER MULTIPLE PHASES.

UM, BUT WE DO ANTICIPATE SOME SMALL ADJUSTMENTS OR, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS THE AMPHITHEATER DOESN'T HAVE A DESIGN YET, AND IT HAS A LOCATION, BUT THE, THE STRUCTURE ISN'T DESIGNED.

SO JUST BEING SENSITIVE TO THE NATURE OF THE PARK, THE NATURE OF THE WORK OF THE FOUNDATION, IT BEING A PRIVATE PARK, BUT A PUBLIC PARK, A NONPROFIT, YOU KNOW, DRIVEN EFFORT.

UM, WE WANT TO BE CONSCIOUS OF THE COST OF COMING BACK FROM TO PLANNING COMMISSION AND PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR MULTIPLE REVIEWS.

AND SO THE DESIGN GUIDELINES WOULD ALLOW US TO, IF THERE'S A, A PROPOSED MODIFICATION THAT WE COULDN'T FIND IN SUBSTANTIAL CON CONFORMANCE, OR IF IT'S AN ANTICIPATED STRUCTURE SUCH AS THE AMPHITHEATER OR THE RESTROOMS THAT THEY COULD BRING THAT FORWARD, GO THROUGH AN ADMINISTRATIVE DESIGN REVIEW PROCESS, WHICH STILL HAS PUBLIC NOTICING, UM, AND SUCH.

BUT THEN THE DESIGN GUIDELINES WOULD HELP IN THE DISCRETIONARY DECISION OF ADMINISTRATIVE, UM, SPAR, THE OTHER THING IS THERE'S ALWAYS, THEN THERE'S ALWAYS THE CAVEAT FOR THE DIRECTOR TO ELEVATE TO PLANNING COMMISSION.

MM-HMM .

UH, NUMBER ONE.

AND THEN THERE'S ALWAYS ON ALL OF OUR DISCRETIONARY ACTIONS, THERE'S THE APPEAL PERIOD.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S NOTHING THAT SAYS THAT A, A REVIEW AUTHORITY COULD NOT APPEAL A DECISION IN ORDER TO BRING IT FORWARD TO A HIGHER LEVEL FOR REVIEW.

THANK YOU.

I THINK THE THIRD TIME OF YOU EXPLAINING THAT, FINALLY STUCK.

NO, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, INTRODUCTION OF THE IDEA.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT CERTAINLY WILL COME FORWARD, UH, WHEN THE SPAR PROJECT OR WHEN THE PROJECT COMES FORWARD FOR SPAR REVIEW.

SO WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE, WE'LL HAVE SPENT MORE TIME WITH THE DESIGN GUIDELINES.

YOU'LL HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO THINK ABOUT IT.

WE'LL ALSO HAVE A MORE THOROUGHLY DEVELOPED DESIGN, UM, AND, AND LIKELY MORE CLEAR EXPECTATIONS FROM THE DESIGN TEAM YEAH.

UM, ON WHAT THAT MULTI-YEAR PHASING OR, OR MULTI-PHASE APPROACH LOOKS LIKE.

SO NO, THAT HELPS IN UNDERSTANDING HOW PRESCRIPTIVE AND DETAILED THESE SHOULD BE.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AGAIN.

UH, ANY LAST SECOND

[01:55:01]

QUESTIONS, CLARIFICATIONS? NO ONE JUMPING OUT, THEN I WILL TURN THIS OVER TO PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ITEM.

UH, I DON'T HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS HERE.

I DON'T SEE ANYONE.

I THINK IT'S JUST THE PROJECT TEAM IN THE AUDIENCE.

SO I DON'T ANTICIPATE PUBLIC COMMENT MATERIAL.

DID WE GET PUBLIC COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING? WE RECEIVED ONE PUBLIC COMMENT PRIOR TO THE MEETING THAT'S BEEN POSTED ONLINE.

EXCELLENT.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

SO AGAIN, WITHOUT SPEAKER CARDS AND FOLKS RUNNING UP TO THE PODIUM, UH, I WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ITEM AND NOW WE'LL TURN

[COMMITTEE COMMENT]

IT OVER TO OUR FORMAL COMMITTEE AND COMMISSION COMMENT PERIOD.

AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO CHAIR WHITLEY TO, UH, RECEIVE THE COMMENTS FROM HCPC, UM, CHAIR.

BEFORE WE DO THAT, THERE IS, UH, ONE REQUEST THAT WE DO HAVE IS TO CONSIDER THE, THE LAND USES AT 500 HOPPER AND MAYBE PROVIDE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE GENERAL PLAN UPDATE TEAM, UM, COULD EXPLORE, UM, IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT LAND USE POLICIES AND, AND HOW WE MIGHT WANT TO DIRECT LAND USE OF THAT SITE.

SO JUST, I, I DIDN'T WANNA LOSE THAT LAND USE COMPONENT OF IT.

SURE.

AND COMMENTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS.

FANTASTIC.

IS THAT FOR THE WHOLE PIECE OF PROPERTY, BOTH THE PARK SECTION AND THE NON DEVELOPED SECTION, THE POTENTIAL HOUSING SECTION? YEAH.

IT'S DELINEATE 500 HOPPER.

YEAH.

WELL, IT, IT IS, YEAH.

I MEAN THE PARK IS CLEARLY INDICATING WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO WITH, WITH PORTION OF RIGHT.

OF 500 HOPPER.

SO, AND THE GPAC HAD ALREADY, HAS ALREADY, I'M SORRY, I FORGET MY MICROPHONE, .

AND THE GPAC HAS ALREADY PRESENTED SOME THINGS THAT THEY PROPOSE FOR THAT AREA.

SO ARE WE LOOKING AT THOSE TWO DIFFERENT WELL, WHAT I WOULD SAY IS YES, I WOULD SAY CONSIDER, CONSIDER THE PARK PROPOSAL AS, AS BEING WITHIN THE ALLOWABLE BOUNDARIES FOR THAT RIVER EDGE DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT.

THAT SORT OF OF PARK, YOU KNOW, THE RIVER TRAIL, THE OPEN SPACE, THE PROTECTION OF THE, UM, THE WETLANDS AND SO FORTH.

SO I WOULD JUST FOCUS ON THINKING ABOUT IF THE REMAINDER OF THE 500 HOPPER SITE IS DEVELOPED, WHAT MIGHT BE SOME GOOD LAND USES.

UM, OKAY.

YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE COMPLIMENTARY TO THE PARK, BUT AS, AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT ONE OF THE THINGS WHEN I LOOK AT IT AND SEE IT AND THINK ABOUT REMOVING THE, UM, THE TEMPORARY PARKING LOT IS WHAT SORT OF STREET NETWORK MIGHT YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME ON STREET PARKING TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE PARKING NEEDS OF, OF THE, UH, THE PARK AREA.

SO THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND SO MAYBE THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT A DIFFERENT DENSITY OF THAT SITE, UM, TO BE, TO TAKE INTO CONTEXT THE PARK.

YEAH.

JUST TO BE CLEAR, ARE THE CURRENT GENERAL PLAN LAND USES FOR THIS SITE GOING TO BE ROLLING INTO THE NEXT GENERAL PLAN? WE FORESEE HAVING THOSE SAME LAND USES, OR YOU'RE SAYING THOSE ARE UP FOR DECISION KIND OF LET'S DECIDE THE FUNCTION AND INTENSITY NOW, MAYBE ROLL THAT INTO RECOMMENDATIONS FOR WHAT THE GENERAL PLAN LAND USE COULD BE.

RIGHT.

WE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE GENERAL PLAN UPDATE TEAM AND, AND TO PACK AND, AND THEN TO THE COUNCIL AS WELL, UM, WHEN THEY REVIEW THE DRAFT LAND USE FRAMEWORK AGAIN.

OKAY.

GREAT.

UH, CHAIR WHITLEY, PLEASE.

OKAY.

NOW, UH, TURNING TO THE HCPC COMMITTEE MEMBERS, UM, WE'D LIKE TO, UH, GET OUR, UM, COMMENTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THIS, UM, PROPOSAL.

UM, CAN WE PULL BACK UP THOSE FOUR QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAD, ANDREW? UH, I'LL STOP SHARING.

SURE.

ONE MOMENT.

SO WE'D LIKE TO, UH, GET FEEDBACK, PARTICULARLY AS IT RELATES TO CULTURAL AND HISTORICAL, UM, RELATIONSHIPS, AND I THINK THAT THEY WERE HIGHLIGHTED HAVE PRIMARILY IN THE FIRST AND THE LAST QUESTION.

YEAH, I'M EXCUSED.

SO HOW CAN THE PROJECT FURTHER MAXIMIZE ITS CONTRIBUTION TO THE AREA'S CULTURAL AND ECONOMIC VITALITY, AND WHAT OPPORTUNITIES ARE RECOMMENDED FOR THE PROJECT TO EXPLORE? UM, I THINK THOSE ARE PROBABLY THE ONES THAT RELATE MOST PREDOMINANTLY TO THE HCPC.

UM, WHO WANTS TO START? I WAS JUST GOING TO, UH, REITERATE, I THINK THE QUESTIONS THAT WE ASKED ORIGINALLY BOTH, UH, TIE ON THOSE QUESTIONS, UH, THOSE TWO QUESTIONS.

UH, THE WAY I SEE IT IS, YOU KNOW, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE WAY THAT, LIKE THE CULTURAL VALUE OF THE SPACE CURRENTLY, UH, IS KIND OF IN THE MIND, THE REMNANTS, THE MEMORIES,

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AND THEN CULTURAL HISTORIES AND, YOU KNOW, HISTORIC TEXTS.

SO I THINK IT IS SUPREMELY IMPORTANT THAT WHEN THE SPACE IS BEING DEVELOPED, WE, YOU KNOW, TRY TO CONVERT THAT ABSTRACT INTO THE PHYSICAL WORLD.

UH, SO WE CAN BRING THE COMMUNITY TO ENGAGE WITH THE HISTORIES THAT ARE PRESENT IN THOSE FACETS, LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, IN REMNANTS, MEMORIES, ET CETERA.

AND, UH, BRING THOSE INTO, YOU KNOW, A PHYSICAL MANIFEST MANIFESTATION SO THEY ARE MORE PRESENT INSTEAD OF BEING LOOKED OVER.

UH, SO THE MORE THAT WE CAN EMPHASIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT, I THINK IS, UH, CRITICAL.

OKAY.

I, UM, I FEEL LIKE THERE'S SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR ENGAGEMENT THAT CAN CONNECT TO THE HISTORY AND CULTURE OF THE AREA.

I WOULD LOVE TO, I, I, I'M SORT OF STUCK BETWEEN REALIZING THAT I THINK THE THINGS THAT I WOULD MAKE ME FEEL BETTER ARE PROBABLY THE DETAILS THAT ARE NOT APPROPRIATE TO BE HASHING OUT RIGHT NOW.

UM, BUT THEY'RE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT I WOULD HOPE AT SOME POINT HAD BEEN PLANNED INTO THE PLANNING SO THAT THEY COULD BE, UM, REALIZED.

AND I, I THINK THAT A COMBINATION OF THINGS THAT APPEAL TO DIFFERENT AGES AND ACCESSIBILITY POINTS FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ACCESSING THE PARK, UM, IS WHERE I, I GOT REALLY EXCITED.

UM, MY WHEELHOUSE IS OBVIOUSLY, UM, AS A TEACHER, YOUNGER PEOPLE, BUT THINKING ABOUT IMPACTFUL EXPERIENCES I HAD GROWING UP THAT, THAT I DIDN'T REALLY REALIZE WERE FORMING THE WAY I THOUGHT ABOUT SEEING HISTORY THROUGHOUT THE BAY AREA.

I REMEMBER GOING TO SANCHEZ, ADOBE, I GREW UP IN PACIFICA AND LEARNING ABOUT SOAP ROOT PLANTS, AND THEN SEEING THEM EVERYWHERE.

MM-HMM .

UM, AND HOW SMALL THINGS LIKE THAT, IF THEY'RE PLANNED IN FROM THE BEGINNING WITH THE MASTER GARDENERS, WOULD CREATE REALLY RICH OPPORTUNITIES FOR EDUCATORS MOVING THROUGH THE SPACE, OR PEOPLE WHO WERE EXCITED ABOUT THEIR OWN SPECIFIC BOTANICAL INTERESTS.

MOVING THROUGH THE SPACE TO MAKE CONNECTIONS.

AND CONNECTIONS ARE, IN MY OPINION, WHAT KEEP WHAT WE ARE IN THE BUSINESS OF LOVING INHERENTLY ALIVE AND, AND IN PEOPLE'S MINDS AND INTERESTING AND VALUABLE.

UM, I WOULD LOVE, I DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT CONVERSATION NEEDS TO HAPPEN.

TO ME, IT FEELS LIKE A VERY DETAIL ORIENTED APPROACH THAT IS PROBABLY NOT FOR NOW, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT IT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT WAS BEING FORGOTTEN.

UM, THAT THERE WAS A PLAN TO HIRE AN EDUCATIONAL CONSULTING TEAM TO, TO CONNECT WITH HISTORICAL CALIFORNIA STATE STANDARDS THAT WERE ACCESSIBLE TO THE CITY SCHOOLS.

SOMETHING LIKE THAT WAS GONNA HAPPEN DOWN THE ROAD.

OKAY.

YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK THAT PLAYS RIGHT INTO WHAT MY COMMENTS WERE GONNA BE.

UM, I SEE THIS AS A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY OR A PROJECT WHERE, UM, CREATING A FIVE YEAR INTERPRETIVE PLAN IS PROBABLY THE ROOT OR THE ROUTE THAT YOU'D WANT TO GO AND, UM, DEVELOP SOMETHING THAT LOOKS AT WHO'S YOUR AUDIENCE, UM, WHAT STORIES DO YOU WANT TO TELL THEM? HOW DO YOU WANT TO TELL THOSE STORIES? AND HOW ARE THOSE STORIES GONNA CHANGE FIVE YEARS FROM NOW? YOU KNOW, UM, EVERY, EVERY TIME YOU HAVE A LONG TERM SITUATION WHERE YOU HAVE A PARK, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO THINK LONG TERM DOWN THE FUTURE, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.

LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE, UM, AND DOES THAT BECOME PART OF THE STORY? UM, ARE THERE COMMUNITIES, UM, ARE, YOU KNOW, ARE THE COMMUNITIES GONNA CHANGE, UM, AS A RESULT OF THAT? AND IS THAT GONNA CHANGE WHAT THE AUDIENCE IS? MM-HMM .

UM, WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, UM, PARCEL PARTICULARLY, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IT HAS A LOT OF, UM, MEANING AND IMPORTANCE FOR THE COAST MINOK PEOPLE.

UM, AND THEY HAVE THEIR STORY TO TELL.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO TELL THE STORY FOR THEM.

YOU WANT THEM TO BE TELLING THEIR STORY AND THEIR STORIES CHANGE ALL THE TIME, TOO.

UM, YOU KNOW, MOST, UH, NATIVE AMERICAN TRIBES, THEY DON'T WANT TO BE CONTINUALLY TELLING THE STORY OF THEIR OPPRESSION, BUT THEY WANNA TELL THE STORY OF HOW THEY'RE SURVIVING INTO THE FUTURE.

AND YEAH.

UM, YOU KNOW, THEIR, WHAT THEIR COMMUNITY IS TODAY.

UM, AND, UH, THE OTHER COMMUNITIES AS WELL, SOME OF THEM AREN'T WELL REPRESENTED ANYMORE, UM, IN, UH, PETALUMA.

AND ONE, UM, PARTICULARLY INTERESTING STORY FOR THIS PARCEL OF LAND, I THINK YOU POINTED IT OUT WITH THE HISTORICAL RIVER CHANNEL.

UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ONLY ONE SNAPSHOT OF THE RIVER MM-HMM .

DURING HISTORIC MAPPING

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PERIODS, AND THEN IT BECAME A HUMAN ALTERED RIVER, UM, AFTER THAT.

BUT PRIOR TO THAT, YOU HAD GEN, UM, THOUSAND, MILLIONS OF YEARS OF, UM, EVOLUTION OF THE RIVER CHANNEL.

AND, UM, ONE THING THAT YOU KNOW IS NOT REPRESENTED BY A COMMUNITY TODAY IS THE PALEONTOLOGICAL HISTORY OF PETALUMA.

THE FACT THAT, UM, MOST PETALUMA DON'T KNOW THAT A FULL MAMMOTH SKELETON WAS UNEARTHED UNDER THE WASHINGTON HOTEL BACK IN 1867 OR SO, AND THEN ANOTHER ONE UNDER THE LOMBARDI'S BARBECUE, UM, WHICH WAS THE MAGNOLIA HOTEL AT THE TIME IN THE 1870S.

AND THEY DON'T KNOW THAT THESE, THIS IS, IT WAS A SIGNIFICANT PALEONTOLOGICAL MM-HMM .

LOCATION, UHHUH BLOOMFIELD'S, ANOTHER ONE, BY THE WAY, THAT 8 MILLION YEARS AGO, INTERESTING.

OR IT WAS AN 8 MILLION YEARS AGO, THERE WAS, UM, MORE PREHISTORIC WALRUSES SPECIES REPRESENTED IN BLOOMFIELD THAN ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD.

WOW.

UM, AND SOME OF THESE STORIES, UM, ARE EXACTLY THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT ENGAGE CHILDREN ALL THE TIME, BUT YOU DON'T SEE THESE STORIES AROUND PETALUMA.

AND, UM, IT WAS A SIGNIFICANT, UH, PALEONTOLOGICAL COLLECTION THAT WENT TO THE CALIFORNIA ACADEMY OF SCIENCES, AND THAT WAS DESTROYED IN THE EARTHQUAKE.

MM-HMM .

AND THAT STORY'S GONE.

MM-HMM .

UM, BUT, UM, TELLING THOSE KINDS OF STORIES, THERE'S, I MEAN, AN INFINITE NUMBER OF THEM.

UM, I'M ACTUALLY AN INDUSTRIAL ARCHEOLOGIST, SO I DO A LOT OF INDUSTRIAL STUFF.

AND SO TELLING THE STORIES OF INDUSTRY THAT MAY ONLY BE 50 YEARS OLD MM-HMM .

IS, YOU KNOW, REALLY IMPORTANT AND INTERESTING, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE A DESCENDANT INDUSTRIAL COMMUNITY , SO TO SPEAK.

YOU ONLY HAVE PEOPLE LIVING TODAY WHO REMEMBER SOME OF THESE THINGS.

AND AS YOU MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, BEING ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY, YOU CAN SEE ALL OF THESE THINGS MM-HMM .

YEAH.

AND YOU CAN SEE SONOMA MOUNTAIN, WHICH ANOTHER MAN, THE SKELETON WAS FOUND THERE.

YEAH.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, UH, FIGURING OUT HOW TO TELL THESE STORIES, WHICH STORIES TO TELL AND HOW TO TELL THEM IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

THE OLD, UM, STANDARD USE OF SIGNAGE IS KIND OF PASSE, BUT IT'S A REAL, UM, NO FRILLS KIND OF, UM, LOW TECH YEAH.

ENGAGEMENT WITH PEOPLE WALKING ON THESE TRAILS.

A MORE HIGH TECH ONE WOULD BE PODCASTS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHERE PEOPLE CAN LISTEN AS THEY WALK AROUND THE TRAILS.

UM, SO FIGURING OUT, OUT, YOU KNOW, HOW YOU ENGAGE WITH THAT COMMUNITY.

I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A PARK AND YOU WANT PEOPLE TO GO THERE, SO HAVING SOMETHING THAT'S LIKE A WEBSITE MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE THE BEST WAY TO DO IT.

YEAH.

BUT, UM, CREATING EDUCATIONAL PACKAGES THAT GO TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND TEACH, YOU KNOW, SIXTH GRADERS OR WHOEVER MM-HMM .

ABOUT THE HISTORY, AND THEN THEY CAN TAKE THEM TO THE PARK AS A FIELD TRIP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT MIGHT BE A WAY TO GO.

UM, SO I THINK ULTIMATELY MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE DEVELOPING A FIVE YEAR INTERPRETIVE PLAN, UH, WITH EXPERTS IN THESE AREAS.

AND THEN, UM, BUILDING ON THAT IN EVERY FIVE YEARS, KIND OF REVIEWING IT.

AND IT'S ALSO SHOULD BE INTEGRATED WITH THE NATURAL RESOURCES, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER'S EVOLVING FOR THE TREATMENT OF THE NATURAL RESOURCES.

MM-HMM .

UM, ANY OTHER ADDITIONS? ANYBODY WANTS TO ADD TO THAT? FROM THE HCP CII, I REALLY LIKE THAT MY GRAPPLING WITH DETAILS TURNED.

I LIKE WHAT YOU, I LIKE, I LIKE WHAT YOU SAID, .

I WAS GONNA ADD A ONE MORE PLUG FOR THINKING ABOUT PLAY AND HOW YOU CAN INCLUDE PLAY AS A WAY FOR YOUNG PEOPLE TO ACCESS, UM, THE OBVIOUSLY GIANT MASTODON AND MAMMOTH RIGHT.

UM, SKELETONS FOR KIDS TO PLAY A, A SHRUNKEN MODEL, RIVER BARGE DESIGNED TO PLAYED ON, I'M THINKING ABOUT THE OLD WORLD WAR II BOMBER ON 19TH AVENUE.

YEAH.

NEAR SVA POOL THAT I GREW UP PLAYING ON.

THEY GOT RIPPED OUT FOR LEAD PAINT CONCERNS, AND THEY, THEY PUT IN A PLAY SAFE VERSION.

BUT JUST ONE MORE, I'M THINKING MAYBE THERE'S AN INTERSECTION FOR ARTISTS AND PLAY SPACE THERE.

SOMETHING WE HAD, UM, FIVE DIFFERENT STEAMBOAT EXPLOSIONS IN THE RIVER, SO MAYBE WE CAN HAVE SOME ARTISTS DO SOME EXPLOSION.

MY 8-YEAR-OLD WOULD LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT THAT.

YEAH.

UM, WELL, CAN I RESPOND? I, I JUST WANNA SAY, I MEAN, YOU'RE SPEAKING MY LOVE LANGUAGE, , UM, GOT A HISTORY DEGREE, MUSEUM EDUCATION, ALL THE THINGS.

UM, I'LL JUST BE, AND SO I'D LOVE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHERE WE SEE OPPORTUNITIES.

I'LL GO BACK TO MY COMMENT AROUND PARTNERSHIP.

UM, AND THAT WHILE THIS IS LIKE, SO EXCITING, HOW MUCH CAN THE FOUNDATION DO ON ITS OWN? AND YEAH.

BUILDING AND OPERATING 35 ACRE PARK, THERE'S GONNA BE A LIMIT THERE.

BUT I JUST HEARD YOUR PASSION.

I HEARD YOUR PASSION SHOULD, SAMANTHA.

SO, UM, PARTNERSHIP.

PARTNERSHIP, AND WE ARE, WE ARE COMMITTED.

THERE'S A UNIQUE, AND

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THE MANDATE FROM THE COMMUNITY IS CLEAR THAT THIS SITE NEEDS TO TELL STORIES.

AND DEFINITELY SIMILAR TO LIKE DEVELOPING AN ARTS MASTER PLAN, A MASTER INTERPRETIVE PLAN IS ABSOLUTELY.

UM, AND IT'LL BE, IT'LL, YOU KNOW, IT COULD, IT HAS THE HIGHEST POTENTIAL OF MEETING THE DREAM IN THE PICTURE MEETING THE VISION YOU JUST PAINTED, UM, THROUGH PARTNERSHIP AND COLLABORATION.

SO, UM, WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A FOLLOW UP WITH EITHER OF YOU, ANY OF BETTY FROM THE COMMISSION, UM, AND TELL YOUR FRIENDS.

YEAH, I'D RECOMMEND, UM, UH, PARTNERING WITH THE PETALUMA HISTORICAL LIBRARY MUSEUM.

UM, THEY'RE WORKING ON A FIVE YEAR, UM, INTERPRETIVE PLAN FOR THE MUSEUM ITSELF, SO YOU COULD BE INTEGRATED WITH THAT AS WELL.

THAT'S FANTASTIC.

AND WE'VE GOT A YEAH.

RELATIONSHIP THERE.

OKAY.

NO, EXCELLENT ROUND OF FEEDBACK AND LOVE HEARING ABOUT MAMMOTHS AND MASTODONS.

SO I'LL, I'LL TURN IT OVER THEN TO, UH, OUR PLANNING COMMISSIONERS, AGAIN, FOCUSING ON THE CONSIDERATIONS HERE.

ANDREW BROUGHT UP THAT IMPORTANT PIECE OF CONSIDERING WITH OUR GENERAL PLAN UPDATE WHAT WE MIGHT CONSIDER APPROPRIATE LAND USE IN THESE AREAS.

RIGHT NOW, IT'S DESIGNATED IN THE PRIOR GENERAL PLAN AS RIVER DEPENDENT INDUSTRIAL.

CPSP HAS ITS OWN DESIGNATIONS.

I DON'T EXPECT ANYONE TO HAVE THAT GLOSSARY NECESSARILY MEMORIZED, AND SOME OF THAT'S IN FLUX.

BUT THINKING ABOUT FUNCTION AND RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE CAN PASS ON FOR GENERAL PLAN, AND THEN ALSO ON OUR DESIGN GUIDELINES, IS THE LEVEL OF DETAIL APPROPRIATE, WHAT MORE CAN BE DONE THERE? UM, IDEALLY TO ENSURE DESIGN CONSISTENCY WHILE REDUCING DELAYS IN COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH MULTI-PHASE IMPLEMENTATION.

SO COMMISSIONER FRY HAND UP ALREADY.

PLEASE START US OFF.

NO, I'M JUST ASKING FOR SOMETHING.

UM, CAN YOU BRING UP THE GPAC RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY? I COULD PROBABLY GET TO IT.

WANT, SORRY.

OOPS.

NO, GO AHEAD.

IF YOU'VE GOT IT MORE ACCESSIBLE, YEAH.

GIMME A MINUTE.

MAYBE GO ON TO ANOTHER QUESTION AND I'LL PULL IT UP.

I JUST THINK THAT, THAT OKAY.

THEN I CAN PUT A COMMENT IN.

UM, WHILE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT HISTORICAL INTERPRETATION AND STUFF, THERE'S TWO THINGS.

WHEN I MOVED TO TOWN HERE IN THE EARLY 1970S, LATE SIXTIES, UM, MY CHILDREN WERE OF THE AGE WHERE WE WERE GONNA LEARN ABOUT THIS AREA.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED DURING THAT TIME IS THE SCOWL.

ALMA USED TO COME UP THE RIVER EVERY YEAR MM-HMM .

FOR THE ADOBE DAYS FESTIVAL.

AND WE GOT TO GO BACK ON THE ALMA BACK TO SAN FRANCISCO, AND THEY'RE IN THEIR FIFTIES NOW, AND IT'S STILL, THEY TALK ABOUT HAVING DONE THAT.

UM, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A POSSIBILITY.

AND THEN WE HAVE NEVER TALKED HERE OR WITH YOU GUYS ABOUT THE, THE SENIOR ADVISORY COMMITTEE HAS A MEMOIR PROJECT THAT WE FILM SENIOR CITIZENS OF PETALUMA.

WE'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR TWO YEARS NOW.

WE HAVE A BIG COLLECTION OF FILMS, AND THEY TALK ABOUT PETALUMA IN THE TWENTIES AND THE THIRTIES AND WHAT WAS HAPPENING HERE.

AND SO THAT'S ANOTHER SOURCE OF INTERPRETIVE MATERIALS.

SO NOW I'LL STOP TALKING NOW.

THIS IS, YEAH.

WELL, THIS IS DEFINITELY THE TIME TO TALK AND GET ANY AND ALL COMMENTS OUT ABOUT THIS PROJECT TO GIVE GUIDANCE.

UH, SO I'LL LOOK FOR ANY OTHER VOLUNTEERS FROM PLANNING COMMISSION TO GIVE COMMENTS AND FEEDBACK.

AND YEAH, PLEASE JUMP ON IF YOU HAVE THAT RECOMMENDATION FROM GPAC, UM, WHENEVER THAT'S READY, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE GREAT TO HELP WRAP OUR HEAD AROUND THE GENERAL PLANE OR DON'T KNOW ZOOM CONTROLS, BUT IT, YEAH.

WHEN IT GETS THERE.

PERFECT.

IN THE MEANTIME, ANYONE WANT TO SHARE COMMENTS, FEEDBACK, CONCEPTUAL IDEAS, COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLE? UM, SO I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S PROBABLY GOES WITHOUT SAYING, BUT CONTINUE TO FOLLOW ALONG WITH WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE FAIRGROUNDS PROCESS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE KICKING THAT OFF PROBABLY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR.

MM-HMM .

UM, THERE'S GONNA BE A WHOLE MESS OF USES THAT ARE CONSIDERED AT THAT PLACE.

AND, UM, I THINK, UH, CONTINUING TO TIE IN WITH THAT, UM, I REALLY LOVED THE, THE WIDE PATHS AND, UM, THE DIFFERENT TEXTURES OR, UH, MATERIALS THAT WERE USED FOR SOME OF THE PATHS.

UM, YOU LIKE REALLY STRUCK A NERVE WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT CONNECTING TO THE ALMOND MARSH AND THE LYNCH DRAKE TRAIL.

AND JUST RECOGNIZING, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH WE CAN CONNECT TO THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY, UM, FROM THIS SPACE.

UM, FOR THE, THE HOUSING, UM, THE, IN THE, IN THE PARKING LOT AREA, UM, I WOULD SAY THERE'S NO NEED TO LIKE PLANT A BUNCH OF TREES THERE.

IF YOU'RE JUST GONNA CUT 'EM DOWN IN A COUPLE YEARS.

IT KIND OF LIKE GIVES IT, WHEN I SEE TEMPORARY PARKING, IT DOESN'T LIKE SCREAM TEMPORARY PARKING TO SEE A BUNCH OF PLANTS THERE.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE, THE SITUATION IS, BUT I WOULD HATE TO SEE LIKE, YOU KNOW, FIVE YEARS OF GROWTH AND THEN JUST HACKING 'EM DOWN.

UM, ON THAT NOTE THOUGH, I THINK THAT THE, THE BARRIER

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BETWEEN, UH, VULCAN AND THIS PROJECT, LIKE PLANTING SOME BIG TREES THERE, UM, TO WHERE LIKE, THINK ABOUT SOUND AND THINGS LIKE THAT, IF THERE IS GONNA BE HOUSING RIGHT THERE, UM, WOULD BE REALLY GOOD.

UM, MM-HMM .

I'VE BEEN ON THE COUNCIL NOW FOR LIKE FIVE YEARS, AND, UM, I CAN SAY THAT WHEN THEY CUT DOWN THE TREES ALONG HIGHWAY 1 0 1, THE COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE RACETRACK, LIKE SHOT THROUGH THE ROOF MM-HMM .

SO LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, LIKE NOW THE TREES ARE GONE, SO I'M GONNA COMPLAIN, BUT LIKE, IT DID MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS WE RECEIVED.

SO, UM, PLANTING SOME BIG TREES EARLY ON THAT CAN GET BIG SO THAT WHEN THE HOUSING GETS THERE, THERE'S SOME BUFFER MAYBE MM-HMM .

UM, SIMILARLY AROUND THE AMPHITHEATER, LIKE I DEFINITELY WANT THERE TO BE, UH, AMPLIFIED MUSIC , SO IF THERE'S SOME SOUND BARRIERS OR THINGS LIKE THAT, LIKE PLANTING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT CAN HELP TO KNOCK DOWN THE NOISE.

UM, AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE DESIGN GUIDELINES, I WANNA MAKE IT AS EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE FOR YOU GUYS TO MAKE YOUR WAY THROUGH THE PROCESS.

UM, I THOUGHT THE DESIGN GUIDELINES WERE A GOOD FIRST DRAFT.

I DON'T HAVE INITIAL FEEDBACK, BUT, UM, I DEFINITELY WANNA SEE MORE OF YOUR MONEY GOING TOWARD THE AMENITIES AND IMPLEMENTING THE GREAT VISION THAT YOU HAVE HERE, AND LESS OF IT SPENT PAYING FOR YOUR CONSULTANTS TO BE INSIDE A CITY HALL.

SO , I'M PAYING FOR OUR CONSULTANTS TO BE INSIDE A CITY HALL, SO I DEFINITELY SUPPORT, UM, TRYING TO MAKE YOUR, YOUR PROCESS EFFICIENT.

UM, WHEN IT COMES TO THE LAND USE, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT THE, UH, THE GPAC RECOMMENDED, BUT I WILL NOTE THAT WHEN THE PLAN, OR WHEN THE COUNCIL HEARD, UH, THE LAND USE ITEM OR THE, WE HAD, WHAT WAS THE START OF A, OF A LAND USE WORKSHOP, UM, WE DID ACTUALLY MAKE IT TO THIS PRO, UH, THIS PARCEL.

AND, UM, THE RIVER PARK SUBMITTED PUBLIC COMMENTS REQUESTING THAT WE DITCH THE, UM, THE MAKERSPACE MM-HMM.

OVER THERE.

UM, AND I'LL JUST SAY THAT, UH, I AM, AND THE COUNCIL WAS IN AGREEMENT, UH, AT LEAST A MAJORITY ON THE COUNCIL.

I THINK THERE WAS FIVE OF US, MAYBE FOUR OF US, UM, THAT WAS SORT OF IN BROAD AGREEMENT THAT WE WANT TO PROVIDE AS MUCH FLEXIBILITY ON THE LAND USE THAT THEY NEED SO THAT WE, UM, CAN GIVE THEM THE LATITUDE TO ACHIEVE THEIR VISION.

BECAUSE ULTIMATELY WHAT'S GONNA COME IF WE START LIMITING THE ABILITY TO EARN REVENUE, IS THAT ALL OF THE AMENITIES AND THE VISION THAT WE'RE SEEING HERE THAT WE'RE ALL EXCITED ABOUT JUST GETS WATERED DOWN.

AND SO I JUST WANNA SHARE THAT THAT WAS THE CONVERSATION AT THE COUNCIL AND ENCOURAGE US TO GIVE FEEDBACK THAT SUPPORTS THE, THE LAND USE.

THEY SAY THEY NEED TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE A SUSTAINABLE, YOU KNOW, BUSINESS WITH A GREAT VISION AND, AND WHATNOT.

SO THAT'S ALL FOR ME.

GREAT.

COMMENTS AND FEEDBACK.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLE, UH, OUR OTHER PLANNING COMMISSIONERS, IF YOU GUYS HAVE COMMENTARY, FEEDBACK, CONCEPTS, ESPECIALLY AROUND GENERAL PLAN AND THESE DESIGN GUIDELINES.

ROGER, YOU GOT YOUR COMMENTS OUT? PERFECT.

UH, YEP.

PLEASE.

THIS IS A LITTLE RUDIMENTARY, BUT WOULD THE, UH, CONCERN ABOUT AMPLIFIED NOISE BE MITIGATED BY THE PARK USE HOURS THEMSELVES? THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT SEEMED LIKE, UH, KIND OF LIKE A LO THAT COULD BE A LOGICAL FIX IS JUST THE TIME OF WHICH THAT'S OCCURRING RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, PUTTING IN MORE EXPENSIVE MITIGATION MEASURES INSTEAD JUST USING A, YOU KNOW, A PRACTICAL WAY TO SOLVE THAT.

IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST AN IDEA.

ABSOLUTELY.

I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE MECHANISMS IN FRONT OF US FOR SURE TO HOW TO MAKE THAT MAKE SENSE.

AND I'VE BEEN, WHAT, UH, DURING THIS EVENING'S CONVERSATION, I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT PERFORMANCE STANDARDS THAT, UM, WE MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT.

WE HAVE, WE HAVE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS IN, IN THE ZONING CODE, UM, AND IN THE SMART CODE.

UM, AND I THINK WHILE WE DON'T HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE PARK USE, WHEN WE START TO LOOK AT THE DIVERSITY OF USES RIGHT.

AND EVENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WE MAY WANT TO WORK WITH THE DESIGN TEAM TO DISCUSS PERFORMANCE STANDARDS THAT COULD GIVE, UM, JUST GIVE, GIVE ADJACENT RESID, ESPECIALLY ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY OWNERS, BUT THEN ALSO THE CITY.

JUST THE COMFORT OF KNOWING THAT WE DO HAVE THOSE STANDARDS IN PLACE.

MM-HMM .

RIGHT.

THEY MAY BE VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE SEE NOW IN THE ZONING CODE OR IN THE SMART CODE, BUT TO REITERATE THEM THROUGH THE SPA PROCESS FOR THE PROJECT SO THAT WE CAN POINT TO THEM, UM, AS PART OF THE PROJECT APPROVAL THEN.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

VERY, VERY PRACTICAL IDEA.

DEFINITELY.

UH, AND NOT TO SINGLE YOU OUT COMMISSIONER NEWELL, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE IF YOU HAVE COMMENTS OR FEEDBACK, ESPECIALLY ABOUT THE LAND

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USE AND GENERAL PLAN.

'CAUSE YOU WERE ON GPAC.

YEAH.

I WON'T REPEAT WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLE SAID ABOUT THE, THE ZONING AND FLEXIBILITY, BUT I, THAT WAS WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR WAS AS MUCH FLEXIBILITY ON ZONING TO ALLOW THE, OBVIOUSLY I WAS TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, AND, AND HOW THAT CAN BE PART OF THE, THE BROADER LONG-TERM, UM, HOUSING OPTIONS AROUND THE, THE PROJECT.

UH, AND THEN, UM, VERY MUCH INTERESTED IN, IN HOW TO, HOW TO MITIGATE THE, THE CONTAMINATION THAT'S ON THE SITE SINCE WE'RE GONNA PUT PLAY FIELDS AND CHILDREN ARE GONNA BE AT THE PARK AND HOW THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.

SO THAT, THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS NOW.

GREAT POINT.

I THINK TOP OF MIND FOR EVERYBODY, ESPECIALLY AFTER SOME OF THE ADJACENT PROJECTS.

UH, SO ANYONE ELSE WITH COMMENTARY BEFORE I LAUNCH INTO MY COUPLE POINTS? UM, SO I WILL JUST SAY THAT HITTING POINT BY POINT, UH, DESIGN GUIDELINES, I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF MATERIAL IN YOUR SUPPORTING PACKETS AND DOCUMENTATION THERE THAT I THINK COULD FILTER IN HERE.

I THINK THERE'S, UM, IMAGERY.

I THINK THIS COULD ALSO BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO THINK ABOUT FOR THE PROJECT, UM, MATERIALITY THEMES, NOT TO BE PRESCRIPTIVE AND BACK YOURSELF INTO A CORNER, BUT GIVE IDEAS AND EXAMPLES.

UH, LIKE WHEN WE THINK ABOUT WAYFINDING, WHICH I KNOW WE'RE GONNA KIND OF WAIT FOR THE CITY, SO WE'RE SIMPATICO THERE.

BUT WHEN WE THINK ABOUT ANY OTHER ASPECTS OF THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT, EDUCATIONAL SIGNAGE, SHADE ELEMENTS, DO WE HAVE ANY EXAMPLES, MATERIAL PALLETS, IDEAS WE COULD GIVE? I THINK ALSO THIS STARTS THE BRAIN WORKING ON HOW THAT COULD THEN PLAY INTO YOUR EVENTUAL HOUSING PROJECT, RIGHT? SO WE'RE KINDA GETTING THE GEARS TURNING NOW ON HOW TO MAKE THESE DEVELOPMENTS TALK TO EACH OTHER.

MM-HMM.

SO NOT TO MAKE THIS A TASK THAT WASTE ADDITIONAL TIME AND MONEY, BUT MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN USE LATER.

AND I KNOW THIS WAS A FIRST DRAFT, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE EXPANSION OF, IN YOUR PRESENTATION AND IN THIS PACKET, SOME GREAT IMAGES AND EXAMPLES THAT I THINK COULD FILTER INTO THESE GUIDELINES AND MAKE THEM REALLY, UH, STAND OUT AS KIND OF A, A GOOD SET OF GUIDANCE THAT DOES NEGATE THE NEED FOR FUTURE SPAR AT A DISCRETIONARY BODY.

UH, DEFINITELY.

AND I THINK FOR LANDSCAPING, THERE COULD BE SOME OF THAT TOO, IF THERE'S ANY LANGUAGE ABOUT PLANTING STYLES, ESPECIALLY DIFFERENTIATING BETWEEN THOSE ACTIVE PROGRAMMING AND PASSIVE PROGRAMMING AND JUST SOME OF THE DIFFERENCE THERE.

AGAIN, NOT GOING INTO THE WHOLE LIST OF DETAILS, BUT JUST GIVING US SOME EXAMPLES AND SHOWING US WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY INTERESTING FOR THESE DESIGN GUIDELINES.

MM-HMM .

UM, I WILL SAY THAT FOR THE GENERAL PLAN, JUST GOING TO ECHO WHAT SOME FOLKS HAVE SAID, I WILL ADD SPEAKING WITH AN ARCHITECT RECENTLY, UH, THEY LAMENTED SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS WE SEE OF HIGH DENSITY ALL NEEDING THEIR OWN TINY LITTLE YARD.

AND I THINK THAT WITH THIS, HAVING THIS ADJACENT PARK COMPONENT, THERE'S A CHANCE TO DO SOME MORE INTERESTING DESIGN.

I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, I, I WOULD ECHO THESE GPAC RECOMMENDATION.

I MEAN, I THINK MORE FLEXIBILITY IS BETTER.

I THINK, AGAIN, THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE ADJACENT OPEN SPACE TO WHERE YOU CAN REALLY LOOK AT DENSITY IN A DIFFERENT WAY AND KIND OF CENTER THINGS OUT ONTO AVAILABLE OPEN SPACE.

I WILL SAY THOUGH, I ALSO DON'T WANT THIS TO BECOME THE PRIVATE PARK OF THE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH I KNOW YOU'RE COGNIZANT OF.

UM, BUT, BUT I THINK THERE'S SOME INTERESTING DESIGN THAT YOU CAN DO IN ORIENTING TOWARD THE RIVER AND THE OPEN SPACE, SO SUPPORTIVE OF THAT LEVEL OF FLEXIBILITY.

UM, AND THEN I'LL JUST ADD THAT HAVING SEEN THIS AT PAC AND AT TREE COMMITTEE, UM, I, I WOULD SAY SPECIFICALLY ABOUT TREE COMMITTEE, YOU KNOW, HOWARD FORMBY ACCOMPLISHED LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT IN HIS OWN, UH, IN HIS OWN FIELD, UH, JUST EXPRESSED TO ME THE IMMENSE CONFIDENCE HE HAS IN YOUR LANDSCAPE ABILITY AND CHOICES AND RESTORATION.

HE WAS GUSHING ABOUT CMG AND GREG MOORE AND THE FIRM OUTTA SEBASTOPOL.

AND IT GAVE ME ALL THE CONFIDENCE IN THE WORLD TO NOT NITPICK SPECIES CHOICE IN THINGS BECAUSE HE KIND OF SET ME STRAIGHT ON, ON THE VIABILITY AND THE APPROACH THAT YOU GUYS WILL TAKE.

UH, I WILL JUST ADD THOUGH, FROM PBA, I, AND I SAW A MENTION OF IT THERE ABOUT DARK SKIES COMPLIANT.

I THINK JUST FIGURING OUT IF THERE IS A MOTION SENSOR OPTION, ESPECIALLY FOR AFTER HOURS AT THE PARK.

YEAH.

MM-HMM .

UM, THAT COULD BE GREAT FOR PUBLIC SAFETY MM-HMM .

BUT ALSO LIMITING IMPACTS ON, ON WILDLIFE.

YEAH.

UM, AND YEAH, I THINK OTHER THAN THAT, THE COMMENTS FROM THE REST OF THE, UM, THE REST OF THE COMMITTEE AND COMMISSION ARE ALL WELL NOTED.

I WILL ASK STAFF IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'VE GOT A GOOD LIST THAT SUMMARIZES THE, THE FEEDBACK OR IF WE NEED TO HIT HOME ANY DETAILS OR NO, THIS HAS BEEN REALLY, UH, EXCELLENT, UH, STUDY SESSION.

THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR, YOUR, UH, THOUGHTFUL COMMENTS AND, AND REFLECTIONS ON THE PROJECT.

I THINK THAT, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE EXCITED TO, AT THIS POINT AT LEAST HAVE WRAPPED UP THESE STUDY SESSION REVIEWS AND LOOK FORWARD TO, UM, SEEING WHAT THE DESIGN TEAM COMES UP WITH NEXT IN RESPONSE.

SO THANK YOU.

YES.

IT'S BEEN A GREAT PREVIEW OF COMING ATTRACTIONS.

I THINK EVERYONE'S

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EXCITED.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS ON THIS.

UH, SO WITH THAT, I THINK WE'RE PRETTY SAFE TO CLOSE MEETING ITEM ONE AND CONTINUE WITH OUR AGENDA.

AND WITH THAT, UH, I BELIEVE IT SAYS HERE THAT WE'LL HAVE HCPC CONVENE THEIR MEETING.

IS THAT CORRECT? UH, YES, THAT IS CORRECT.

OKAY.

SO WE'LL ALLOW A MOMENT HERE FOR HCPC.

UH, PLEASE.

CHAIR WHITLEY.

OKAY.

SO, UH, THAT'S ALL OF THE BUSINESS FOR THE HCPC AND WE CAN, UH, EXCUSE OURSELVES FROM THE REST OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.

JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU AGAIN TO ALL THE COMMISSIONERS.

THANK YOU.

YEAH, THANK YOU.

AND THANK YOU TO CHAIR WHITLEY AND THE HCPC MEMBERS.

I THINK THEY ADDED DEFINITELY SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTISE AND A LENS THAT WAS REALLY COOL.

INTERESTING.

SPICED UP THE PLANNING COMMISSION DISCUSSION.

DEFINITELY .

AND WITH THAT, THAT CLOSES OUR ONLY MEETING ITEM AND WE MOVE RIGHT INTO COMMISSION COMMENT.

SO THIS IS THE CHANCE FOR COMMISSIONERS TO GIVE UPDATES FROM LIAISON APPOINTMENTS OR OTHER, UH, MATTERS THAT MIGHT BE WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF PLANNING COMMISSION.

AND I GUESS I'LL JUST START ON MY RIGHT WITH COMMISSIONER MACRO LANE, ANY UPDATES YOU WANNA PASS ON TO THE COMMISSION? UH, NO UPDATES OTHER THAN I'VE REQUESTED, UH, THE PLANNING DIRECTOR, PLANNING MANAGER TO CONSIDER, UM, ADVANCING MORE CONCEPTUAL MATERIAL AND SUBMITTALS SO THAT WE'RE NOT STUCK WITH IN SPAR APPROVING LANDSCAPE ON A PLAN THAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.

SO THAT THOSE, I THINK THE LANDSCAPE CONCEPT NEEDS TO BE PART OF A SITE PLAN.

'CAUSE IT TAKES UP ROOM, JUST LIKE BUILDINGS DO.

IF WE WAIT TILL SPAR, WE HAVE NO ABILITY TO CHANGE THE SITE PLAN.

AND I THINK THAT'S NOT A GOOD, WE HAVE NO LEVERAGE.

AND, AND AS I SAW IN THE LAST PROJECT THAT CAME THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THINGS LIKE HOA MANAGEMENT AND PRIVATE MAINTENANCE AND ALL THESE QUESTIONS NEED TO COME UP SOONER, NOT AT THE END OF THE PROJECT.

AND SO I'VE ASKED YOU TO KIND OF FLUSH IT OUT.

SURE.

AND I APPRECIATE THE, UH, YOU SHARING, UH, THERE WERE DETAILED, THOROUGH COMMENTS.

I I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT AND WE'LL BE WORKING ON THAT GOING FORWARD.

UM, THE, THE CREEKWOOD PROJECT HAS BEEN IN PLANNING REVIEW FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

UH, AND, BUT I DO LOOK FORWARD, WE'LL HAVE A COUPLE OF PROJECTS, I BELIEVE COMING FORWARD FOR CONCEPT REVIEW.

UM, THAT WILL BE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, NOT, NOT PARK PROJECTS.

AND SO I LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, GETTING MORE CLOSER TO YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND HAVING THOSE CONCEPT DESIGNS BE MORE THOUGHTFUL AS IT RELATES TO LANDSCAPE AREAS, PLANTING AREAS, CIRCULATION, THINGS LIKE THAT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

SO THANK YOU.

EXCELLENT.

THANK YOU BOTH FOR THE EXTRACURRICULAR WORK THERE.

UM, COMMISSIONER NEWELL, ANY UPDATES FOR THE COMMISSION? NO UPDATES.

ALRIGHT.

UH, I'LL GIVE A QUICK UPDATE FROM LIAISON APPOINTMENTS FOR A PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

OUR LAST MEETING, WE REVIEWED THE RIVER PARK PLAN, UH, BUT WE ALSO GOT AN UPDATE ON A FUNDING OPPORTUNITY THAT BJORN IS TAKING ADVANTAGE OF, UH, AND I'M GONNA FORGET THE NAME OF IT RIGHT NOW, BUT HE'S BASICALLY ABLE TO FRONT LOAD FUTURE FUNDING FOR DIFFERENT MOBILITY AND ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS.

AND THEY ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THAT OPPORTUNITY TO ALLOW FUNDING A WAYFINDING PROGRAM THAT HAS BEEN LONG IN THE WORKS.

UH, AND HE'S CONVINCED THAT THIS IS A GREAT MOVE TO, YOU KNOW, TIME VALUE OF MONEY, GET MORE WORTH OUTTA THAT MONEY NOW INSTEAD OF FUTURE BUDGET YEARS.

AND ALSO FINALLY GET THE WAY FOUNDING WAYFINDING PROJECT UP AND, AND OUT INTO THE, INTO THE COMMUNITY.

UH, AND THEN I WILL SHARE FROM TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT LAST MEETING, WE ALSO SAW THE RIVER PARK PLAN.

UH, BUT ALSO THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY, AND JUST AS A GENTLE REMINDER TO ROGER AND ANDREW, THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A SUBCOMMITTEE TO LOOK AT OUR, OUR STANDARDS WHEN IT COMES TO PLANTING AND LANDSCAPE POTENTIAL.

EITHER PRE-APPLICATION OR, YOU KNOW, PRE-DESIGN REVIEW, PRE SPAR REVIEW BY A SUBCOMMITTEE OF TREE COMMITTEE TO GIVE GREAT RECOMMENDATIONS ON LANDSCAPING AND POTENTIALLY DEVELOP OBJECTIVE OR, OR HELP TO DEVELOP OBJECTIVE LANDSCAPING AND TREE STANDARDS FOR PROJECTS SO WE DON'T GET AS BOGGED DOWN IN PLANNING COMMISSION ABOUT, UH, LANDSCAPE AND TREES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

UH, ALSO, I WANT TO PUT A QUICK PLUGIN FOR APRIL 26TH.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE AN ARBOR DAY CELEBRATION AT CITY HALL, AND

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THAT'S TREE FEST.

IT'S GONNA BE A GREAT COMMUNITY EVENT.

I WANNA USE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE THAT WITH COMMISSIONERS HERE.

ATTENDANCE ISN'T MANDATORY, BUT HIGHLY ENCOURAGED.

I'LL MOVE ON TO COUNCIL MEMBER PARTICLE .

UH, UM, THANK YOU.

SO TWO THINGS, UH, FROM THE COUNCIL.

UM, WE STARTED TO HAVE A LAND USE WORKSHOP AND, UH, GOT REALLY WRAPPED AROUND THE AXLE ON SOME DIFFERENT THINGS.

SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE A, I THINK A LONGER, UH, WORKSHOP COMING UP MAYBE IN A COUPLE WEEKS, BUT START EARLIER, HAVE MORE CONTEXT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO, UM, UNSURPRISINGLY ALL THE, WHAT WAS THE YEARS OF, OF WORK THAT THE GPAC WAS DOING, THE COUNCIL WASN'T READY TO TAKE IT ON IN ONE EVENING.

UM, AND THEN, UH, THE SECOND THING WE APPROVED THE OVERLAY, UM, UH, THE DOWNTOWN HOUSING AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY OVERLAY WITH, UM, A REDUCED, UH, SCOPE FOR, TO JUST SUB AREA A.

AND SO, UM, AND THEN WE ALSO ADDED IN SOME, UH, AN ANA LIKE A REQUIREMENT THAT YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE, UM, FOR ALL NON-RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS.

UM, AN ANALYSIS OF THE IMPACTS ON JOBS, HOUSING BALANCE.

SO THAT WAS ALL, NO, AND THAT WAS DEFINITELY A 10,000 FOOT VIEW.

THERE'S A LOT THERE.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK AND FOR THAT, THAT SUCCINCT UPDATE.

UH, COMMISSIONER FRY, COUPLE THINGS.

UM, IF YOU'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING ON APRIL 5TH, RTP IS HAVING A WORKDAY.

WE HAVE I THINK EIGHT PROJECTS GOING ON THAT DAY AROUND TOWN.

UM, AND WE WOULD LOVE EVERYONE TO VOLUNTEER FOR THAT.

YOU CAN GO RIGHT ON OUR WEBSITE AND VOLUNTEER.

UM, WE ALSO ARE HAVING A, UM, COMMUNITY DINNER EVENT ON MAY 10TH, AND THAT WILL BE UP ON OUR WEBSITE SHORTLY.

UM, BUT YOU CAN, UM, IT'S AN RSVP, BUT THERE'S NO CHARGE.

THERE'S NO TICKET CHARGE.

IT'S A THANK YOU TO THE COMMUNITY FROM WE BUILDING TOGETHER PETALUMA, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GROW SO SIGNIFICANTLY IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

AND SO WE'RE JUST THANKING EVERYBODY.

UM, A LONG-TERM THING IS AN OCTOBER 11TH, THE SENIOR ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS DOING A SENIOR RESOURCES SYMPOSIUM AND ALL DAY EVENT.

WE'RE TAKING OVER THE WHOLE COMMUNITY CENTER.

WE HAVE 40 BREAKOUT SESSIONS.

WE HAVE A KEYNOTE SPEAKER FROM THE COUNTY, UM, AND WE HAVE A RESOURCE FAIR AND ALL SORTS OF THINGS GOING ON THAT DAY.

AND THE LAST THING IS THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE LIVED WITH ME THROUGH THE MANY ITERATIONS OF THE OUTDOOR EXERCISE FACILITY PROGRAM THAT I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON, UM, I TALKED TO THE RIVER PARK PEOPLE AND THEY ARE GOING TO INCLUDE IT WITHIN THEIR RIVER PARK.

SO WE'RE GETTING THAT STEP CLOSER.

I'M SO EXCITED, DESERVING OF A, A ROUND OF APPLAUSE.

DEFINITELY.

WELL, WITH THAT, WE WILL CLOSE COMMISSION MEMBER COMMENT AND WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO PLANNING MANAGER

[STAFF COMMENT]

TRIPLE FOR STAFF COMMENT.

GREAT.

THANK YOU CHAIR.

UM, THE, LET'S SEE.

UM, COUNCIL MEMBER BAREL ALREADY DISCUSSED THE, UH, SORT OF REVISITING THE DRAFT LAND USE FRAMEWORK, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UM, PETALUMA CITY HALL IS, UH, UNDERTAKING A LANDSCAPE IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.

UM, I BELIEVE THAT'S BEING LED BY DAILY ACTS AND, UH, WATER RESOURCES AND CONSERVATION MANAGER.

ORIENTA HEART IS THE CITY'S LIAISON FOR THAT EFFORT.

UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT'S, THE INTENT IS NOT TO FULLY RE LANDSCAPE PETALUMA OR CITY HALL, UM, BUT TO CERTAINLY IMPROVE WHAT WE HAVE.

AND I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT SOME IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE, UH, FANTASTIC TO LOOK AT, UH, AS YOU'RE WALKING INTO CITY HALL FROM ENGLI, UH, FROM ENGLISH STREET.

SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.

UM, SECOND, WE DO HAVE A TENTATIVE STUDY SESSION ON APRIL 8TH, UH, TO REVIEW THE DRAFT ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN, UM, BEFORE THAT GOES ON TO A CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP, UM, THE FOLLOWING WEEK.

AND THEN ALSO, UM, ON APRIL 21ST, UH, PLANNING DIVISION WILL BE DELIVERING THE ANNUAL, UM, HOUSING ELEMENT PROGRESS REPORT TO CITY COUNCIL.

AND THEN, UM, OUR GOAL WILL BE TO BRING THAT TO YOU THEN ON APRIL 22ND AND SHARE THAT WITH YOU AS WELL.

UM, AND, AND THEN WE'LL WE, AT THAT POINT IN TIME WE'LL BE ALSO SHARING, I'LL LOOK FORWARD TO SOME WORK WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING, UM, TO SOME IEO AMENDMENTS TO SUPPORT IMPLEMENTATION OF THE HOUSING ELEMENT.

UM, AND THOSE WILL COME BEFORE YOU IN EARLY SUMMER OF THIS YEAR.

FANTASTIC.

AGAIN, A LOT OF WORK SUMMARIZED SUCCINCTLY THERE.

UH, SO WITH THAT WE'LL CLOSE STAFF COMMENT AND WE WILL ADJOURN OUR MEETING AT 8:35 PM THANK YOU.