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SO .

ALRIGHT,

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SO I, I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME YOU

[CALL TO ORDER]

TO THE WEDNESDAY APRIL 16TH, 2025 MEETING, MEETING OF THE RECREATION PARKS AND MUSIC COMMISSION.

UM, CLERK, CAN YOU PLEASE CALL ROLE ELLI? HERE, CHISHOLM.

HERE, EARL.

HERE.

GREENSPAN.

HERE.

KELLY? HERE.

SIMMONS.

HERE WE HAVE A QUORUM.

EXCELLENT.

THANK YOU.

AND NOW LET'S ARISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

OKAY, WE'VE HAD ONE AGENDA

[AGENDA CHANGES AND DELETIONS]

CHANGE FOR THIS EVENING.

IT'S ACTUALLY A DELETION, UM, FROM THE PRESENTATION NUMBER ONE.

WE WILL START THIS

[GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT]

MEETING TONIGHT WITH GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.

I'VE RECEIVED ONE, UH, IN-PERSON GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.

UM, NINA ZITO, CAN YOU PLEASE COME UP HARD WORK? UH, UH, JUST AN ENCOURAGEMENT WHEN INFORMATION IS PRESENTED FROM OUTSIDE CONSULTANTS OR YOU GUYS EVEN ASSEMBLE DATA WITHIN YOUR PURVIEW, THAT THE PRESENTATION CLEARLY DEFINE WHAT THE VARIABLES ARE.

SO IF YOU'RE DOING A CHART, YOU GOT AN X AXIS, X AXIS, AND A Y AXIS THAT YOU LIKE.

LABEL WHAT'S GOING ON, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE A LOT OF DATA IS BEING ASSEMBLED, AND THIS IS IMPORTANT INFORMATION.

BUT IF THE VARIABLES AREN'T DEFINED UNDER, YOU KNOW, IN THEIR CON SOME STANDARDS AND SOME CONVENTIONS AROUND DATA PRESENTATION, IT BECOMES SORT OF MEANINGLESS AND YOU'VE LOST YOUR INVESTMENT.

SO JUST A, A GENERAL OBSERVATION AND ENCOURAGEMENT, AND THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, NINA.

OKAY.

AND, UH, DOES THAT CLOSE OUT? ANY GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT? WE DON'T HAVE ANY, UM, EMAILED.

SO AGAIN, WE HAVE A DELETION OR A POSTPONEMENT OF PRESENTATION NUMBER ONE, ONE.

SO WE WILL MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR THE MEETING OF MARCH 19TH, 2025.

ARE THERE ANY CHANGES? WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO APPROVE? I JUST WANNA NOTE THAT, UM, OUR COMMISSIONER COMMENTS ARE NO LONGER IN DETAIL ON MINUTES.

OKAY.

WE, WE WILL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

WE, WE DO, YOU KNOW, TRY TO STANDARDIZE AND TAKE ACTION MINUTE.

WE ALWAYS HAVE THAT PUBLIC RECORD, BUT IF WE CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT, WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE PROVIDE A COUPLE OF BOLD BULLETS.

DIDN'T THEY USED TO BE, OR AM I ACTION MINUTES, I GUESS IS THE PRECEDENT THAT WE'RE ALL KIND OF MOVING FORWARD WITH.

SO THEY'RE ALWAYS IN THE PUBLIC ARCHIVE, BUT WE TRY TO CREATE THOSE KIND OF IMPORTANT TOPICS AND LIAISON, UM, REPORT OUTS ESPECIALLY.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

MOTION TO APPROVE A SECOND.

OKAY, THEN WE HAVE APPROVED THE MINUTES FOR THE MEETING OF MARCH 19TH, 2025.

MOVING ON TO

[PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION]

PUBLIC HEARINGS MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION.

THIS IS ITEM NUMBER THREE.

WE WILL REVIEW, DISCUSS, AND PROVIDE INPUT ON THE CURRENT PLAYGROUND REPLACEMENT IN ANTICIPATION OF THE, OF ESTABLISHING NEW EVALUATION CRITERIA TO ASSIST IN PRIORITIZING FUTURE PLAYGROUND REPLACEMENT PROJECTS.

AND DREW WILL TAKE US AWAY ON THIS.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

JUST FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD, UM, WE HAD A VOTE OR A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.

UM, AND THE QUESTION FROM THE COUNCIL MEMBER WAS, DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON THAT APPROVAL? UM, WITH THE MINUTES, WE CAN, YOU CAN DO THAT WITH A CONSENSUS.

JUST ALL IN FAVOR.

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UM, SO I THINK WE CAN JUST DO THAT AS BEST PRACTICES, JUST ALL IN FAVOR.

AND THEN JUST KIND OF STICK THE HAND UP.

BUT THANK YOU FOR THE CATCH.

THANK YOU.

SO WE'LL JUST GET IT ALL, ALL IN FAVOR? YEAH.

OKAY.

AND WITH THAT, WE HAVE ACTUALLY APPROVED THE MINUTES FROM MARCH 19TH, 2025.

SO MOVING ON, UH, TO ITEM NUMBER THREE, AGAIN, THIS IS THE REVIEW, DISCUSS AND PROVIDE INPUT ON THE CURRENT PLAYGROUND REPLACEMENT PROGRAM IN ATTI AND IN ANTICIPATION OF ESTABLISHING NEW EVALUATION CRITERIA TO ASSIST IN PRIORITIZING FUTURE PLAYGROUND REPLACEMENT PROJECTS.

AND DREW, YOU WILL BE PRESENTING.

THANK YOU CHAIR.

WE'RE ROLLING NOW.

UM, I'M VERY EXCITED TO BE BEGINNING THIS PROCESS WITH YOU ALL TONIGHT.

UM, IT WILL INVOLVE A FEW STEPS, BUT, UH, THE MOST CRITICAL WILL BE THE FIRST, UH, WHERE WE GET TO TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT OF THE BACKGROUND ON HOW WE GO ABOUT, UM, MANAGING PLAYGROUNDS, WHERE THEY ARE, UM, KIND OF WHY THEY EXIST AND COLLECT AS MUCH FEEDBACK TONIGHT ON HOW WE WANT TO APPROACH, UH, THE NEXT ROUND OF ESTABLISHING A PLAYGROUND REPLACEMENT SCHEDULE.

UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO I, I UNDERSTAND, UM, YOU KNOW, AT THE RISK OF KIND OF PREACHING TO THE CHOIR HERE, YOU'RE ALL, UM, ON THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION, MANY OF YOU HAVE HAD ASSIGNMENTS, UM, VERY FAMILIAR WITH PLAYGROUNDS, UM, WHO USES THEM, WHY WE HAVE THEM, BUT JUST IMPORTANT TO PROVIDE A REAL HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW.

UM, PLAY IN ITSELF IS, IS, IS SO ESSENTIAL TO YOUTH DEVELOPMENT.

UM, WE, MOST OF US, UH, DON'T HAVE TO BE CONVINCED OF THAT.

I THINK IT'S ALSO VERY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND AT PLAY AND WHAT WE UNDERSTAND NOW, UM, MORPHS MUCH BEYOND YOUTH DEVELOPMENT, REALLY AS A COMMUNITY BENEFIT.

THERE ARE OTHER, UM, TANGIBLE ASSETS THAT WE HAVE WHEN WE INSTALL AND MAINTAIN, UM, AND OFFER A VARIETY OF PLAYGROUNDS WITH, UM, LAND CONSTRAINTS THAT HAVE, YOU KNOW, OFTEN HAVE IN COMMUNITIES LIKE OURS, WHERE PROPERTIES IS INCREASINGLY, UM, EXPENSIVE, BECOMING LESS AFFORDABLE.

THE DEMAND FOR OPEN SPACE, UH, BACKYARDS ARE OFTEN, YOU KNOW, GET SMALLER, UM, SAFE ACCESSIBLE PLAY AREAS.

UH, THE DEMAND INCREASES.

SO THE VALUE OF HAVING THESE THESE PLACES, UH, AS, UH, A WAY TO PROVIDE MORE EQUITABLE ACCESS TO PLAY IS SU SUPER IMPORTANT.

AND THOSE ARE OUR PLAYGROUNDS.

THERE'S ALSO, WHEN DONE RIGHT, UM, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO OFFER GREATER ACCESSIBILITY TO THESE PLAYGROUNDS THAN, UM, OTHER AREAS WITHIN THE CITY, PRIVATE OR OTHER, UM, WOULD NORMALLY HAVE THEM.

THE OTHER THING, WHAT WE CAN DO WHEN WE OFFER PLAYGROUNDS, UH, OBVIOUSLY WE ARE CONSTRAINED BY SIZE IN SOME LOCATIONS, BUDGETS, AND ALMOST ALL.

BUT WHEN DONE RIGHT, YOU CAN REALLY OFFER ALL OF THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF PLAY ACTIVITY THAT NOT JUST STIMULATE THE PHYSICAL KIND OF DEVELOPMENT OF THE YOUTH, BUT ALSO NOW THE COGNITIVE, THE SOCIAL EMOTIONAL, UM, OFFERING ALL THESE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS WITHIN A PLAYGROUND IS SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR, FOR THESE COMMUNITIES.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PLAYGROUND DESIGN, WHICH WE WON'T REALLY GET TOO MUCH INTO YET, WE'RE GONNA PRETTY PRETTY MUCH GO THROUGH THIS AT A HIGH LEVEL AND GIVE YOU AS MUCH OF A BACKGROUND AS WE CAN ABOUT WHAT EXISTS NOW HERE IN PETALUMA.

BUT AS WE'RE LOOKING AT EVALUATING PLAYGROUNDS, THE BEST PRACTICES ARE REALLY TO DESIGN FOR CERTAIN AGE GROUPS THAT ARE DEFINED IN OUR SAFETY STANDARDS.

WE DON'T SEE A LOT OF THEM, BUT THE EARLIEST IS, UH, PLAYGROUNDS OR STRUCTURES THAT ARE ACTUALLY DESIGNED FOR SIX MONTHS TO 23 MONTH OLDS.

THEN WE GET INTO OUR MORE KIND OF CORE GROUPS, WHICH ARE TWO TO FIVE YEAR OLDS THAN FIVE TO 12.

AND THEN THIS KIND OF BURGEONING GROUP OF, UH, TEEN GROUNDS, WE'LL CALL 'EM 13 PLUS.

UH, BUT YOU'LL, WE CAN TALK MORE ABOUT THAT.

THE PHOTO YOU CAN'T REALLY MAKE OUT.

BUT THIS, THIS IS A REPRESENTATIVE OF, THERE'S DEFINED SPACES WITHIN THIS PLAYGROUND THAT HAS TWO TO FIVE, FIVE TO 12, AND 13 PLUS.

SO IT'S POSSIBLE TO PUT THESE ALL WITHIN A PLAY AREA.

I THINK THAT'S VERY ASPIRATIONAL.

YOU NEED A LOT OF SPACE, BUT WHAT'S IMPORTANT IS YOU HAVE TO KIND OF DEFINE THOSE AREAS, SIGN IT, AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE SEPARATION SO THAT PARENTS KNOW THAT THEY CAN BRING CHILDREN TO APPROPRIATE PLAY AREAS OR VICE VERSA.

YOU'RE PUTTING THEM IN AREAS WHERE YOU KNOW YOU'RE GONNA BE HITTING CERTAIN DEMOGRAPHICS.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO, AN OVERVIEW OF

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THE PETALUMA PLAYGROUND REPLACEMENT PROGRAM.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE 28 PLAYGROUNDS, UH, THROUGHOUT OUR 48 PARKS.

THE AGE OF THE STRUCTURES NOW RANGE FROM 1994, UH, TO THROUGH 2023.

WHEN WE LOOK AT HISTORICAL, WHAT OUR PLAYGROUND REPLACEMENT PROGRAM HAD BEEN, UH, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO, TO UNDERSTAND THAT FROM 2008 TO 2014, THIS PROGRAM WAS, WAS FROZEN, ESSENTIALLY, UM, DUE TO FUDGING, BUDGETING, BUDGET CONSTRAINTS.

AND SO WHEN YOU HAVE A, A PLAYGROUND REPLACEMENT SCHEDULE THAT'S KIND OF FROZEN, THERE'S A BACKLOG, OBVIOUSLY, OF MORE PLAYGROUNDS THAT ARE IN NEED OF REPLACEMENT THAN YOU CAN OFFER.

SO WE WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO RESUME THE PROGRAM, UH, 2014, AND BY 2015, WE HAD ADOPTED OUR LAST LIST OF PRIORITIZED PLAYGROUND REPLACEMENTS, AND THAT INCLUDED SIX PLAYGROUNDS, WHICH I'LL TALK ABOUT IN THE NEXT SLIDE.

UM, BUT THAT'S KIND OF THE OVERVIEW OF WHERE THE PROGRAM HAD BEEN.

SO WE STARTED REPLACING PLAYGROUNDS, UH, THROUGH A, A SILOED KIND OF FUND.

IT WAS STALLED FROM 2008 TO 2014.

WE USED, UH, A PORTION OF A, ESSENTIALLY A HOUSING DEVELOPMENT BOND REFINANCING TO SET ASIDE EVERY YEAR TO REINSTITUTE A PLAYGROUND REPLACEMENT PROGRAM IN 2015.

THAT, THAT POINT WAS OUR LAST TIME WE ADOPTED A LIST OF SIX PARKS.

AND THEN, UH, WE, WE'VE COMPLETED THOSE SIX PARKS.

SO NOW WE'RE ONTO THE NEXT.

OKAY, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO, WHEN WE LAST DID THIS, UM, AND THIS WAS A, A I I, I STARTED WITH THE CITY IN 2013, SO I, I REMEMBER THIS, THIS LIST WAS FAIRLY FRESH AT THAT POINT.

THE EVALUATION OF THE PLAYGROUNDS REALLY CENTERED ON, ON JUST SAFETY.

UM, WE WERE AT THAT POINT WHERE WE WERE FALLING BEHIND, UH, IN OUR REPLACEMENT SCHEDULE.

SO WE ARE LOOKING ESSENTIALLY AT, UM, THE CONSUMER PROTECTION SAFETY COMMITTEE IS, IS ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE FOR DEFINING WHAT SAFE PLAY STRUCTURES ARE IN PUBLIC SPACES.

BUT WE, WE REALLY, UM, WORKED WITH THE NATIONAL PROGRAM FOR PLAYGROUND SAFETY.

THOSE ARE LIKE THE GOLD STANDARDS IN CALIFORNIA FOR WHICH WE GO OUT AND HAVE OUR CREWS CREDITED TO EVALUATE, UH, PLAYGROUNDS.

AND WE ARE EVALUATING LISTS ON WHERE TO REPLACE, BASICALLY JUST ON THAT SAFETY, UH, OF THESE STRUCTURES.

SO THE LIST BELOW THAT, THESE WERE THE SIX, UM, THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN 20 14, 20 15.

AND THAT MEADOWVIEW WAS THE FIRST TO BE DONE, FOLLOWED BY ARROYO, THEN ME WALK, GRANT BOND, AND THEN ANNA'S MEADOW.

MOST RECENTLY, I WANNA POINT OUT THAT WE WERE ON PACE TO REPLACE A PLAYGROUND, EVERY ONE, I'M SORRY, ONE PLAYGROUND EVERY TWO TO THREE YEARS PRIOR TO, UM, SONOMA COUNTY VOTERS APPROVING THE PARKS MEASURE M ACCESS FOR ALL.

AT THAT POINT, WE WERE ACCELERATED FROM 2020.

WE WERE GONNA BE DOING ABOUT A PLAYGROUND EVERY YEAR.

AND SO THAT WAS JUST A, A, NOT JUST A LIFELINE, BUT REALLY JUST LIKE A CATALYST FOR US TO BE ABLE TO CATCH UP TO REPLACING PLAYGROUNDS AND, AND REALLY BRINGS US HERE TODAY WHERE WE CAN NOW TALK ABOUT OTHER WAYS THAT WE CAN INCORPORATE INTO SELECTING NEW PLAYGROUNDS FOR REPLACEMENT.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO THESE ARE JUST SUB STATED PROGRAM GOALS FOR TONIGHT TO BE THINKING ABOUT AS WE WALK THROUGH THESE AREAS AND ULTIMATELY LAND WITH SOME FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMISSION.

THE, THE IDEA IS WE, WE ALWAYS TRY WITH ANY KIND OF DECISIONS THAT WE'RE MAKING, UM, ORCA DISCUSSIONS IS ADOPTING PRIORITIZED EVALUATION CRITERIA BASED ON SOME OF THE VALUES, THE BEST PRACTICES THAT WE DO FOR OTHERS, FOR US IN, UM, THE PARK SPACE.

IT'S SAFETY, EQUITY, THE ENVIRONMENT, CONSIDERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE.

SO THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE SOME OF THE PILLARS THAT I JUST WANT TO BRING UP.

THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE TALK ABOUT WHEN WE GO THROUGH PARK DESIGNS.

WE'RE ALWAYS LIKE HOLDING THOSE UP AS THOSE CORE VALUES FOR WHICH WE LOOK, WHEN WE PRIORITIZE PUBLIC INVESTMENT, WE'RE GONNA BE SEEKING MORE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ON ESTABLISHING THESE PLAYGROUND REPLACEMENT SCHEDULE.

UM, LIKE I MENTIONED, THE ENGAGEMENT REALLY WAS, WE'RE GONNA GET AS MANY UNSAFE PLAYGROUNDS FIXED.

UM, WHEN PLAYGROUNDS, UH, WHEN PIECES ARE IN NEED OF REPAIR, WE, WE HAVE ESSENTIALLY THREE OPTIONS.

ONE IS TO, UM, REPAIR A, A DEFUNCT OR A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.

WE CAN REPLACE AN ENTIRE STRUCTURE IF THE FUNDS ARE READY, READY, OR IF THERE'S SO MUCH OF THAT STRUCTURE TO BE REPLACED, OR WE CAN REMOVE IT.

AND SO WHAT WE, WE REALLY TRY TO AVOID IS THE THIRD IS JUST TO REMOVE PLAYGROUNDS, RIGHT? TAKE THEM OUT WITHOUT HAVING A REPLACEMENT.

SO THIS IS NOT TO SAY THAT WE DON'T HAVE OPERATIONS FUNDS AND WE ANTICIPATE BUDGETS FOR PLAYGROUND

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THAT PIECES THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED.

THAT'S, THAT'S AN ONGOING OPERATIONAL NEED.

A SLIDE NEEDS TO BE DONE HERE.

UM, YOU KNOW, A PARK, MANY A SWING NEEDS TO BE ADJUSTED, FIXED NUTS, FAULTS, DECK PLATFORMS. THOSE THINGS HAPPEN REGULARLY.

WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS THE, IS THE ENTIRE STRUCTURES THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED.

SO, SEEKING COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ON HOW WE EVALUATE THAT IS, IS A GOAL OF THE TONIGHT.

DETERMINING WHAT TOOLS, METHODS, DATA TO BE USED TO HELP DETERMINE EQUITY.

EQUITY REPRESENTS A LOT OF DIFFERENT, UM, METRICS.

AND I I'M LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK TONIGHT ON, ON WHAT SOME OF THOSE METRICS COULD BE, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT LATER.

AND WHAT WE'VE HEARD, WE'VE DONE A FEW, MOST OF YOU, I'VE DONE A FEW PLAYGROUND REPLACEMENTS.

UM, WE LEARN A LOT WITH EACH, BUT WE HEAR SOME CONSISTENT THEMES.

AND THIS COMMISSION, I THINK, REALLY, UM, PROVIDED A LOT OF GOOD FEEDBACK, WHICH ULTIMATELY GOT SOME SUPPORT FOR EXPANDING BUDGETS AT THE ANNA'S MEADOWS PLAYGROUND TO INCLUDE, UH, SHADE AND SEATING.

AND THAT HAS MADE SUCH A DIFFERENCE.

IF YOU'VE NOT BEEN TO THAT PARK AFTER HOURS SATURDAY MORNING, IT'S EXTREMELY USED.

UM, IT WAS A BIG SUCCESS.

AND, AND THE AMENITIES THAT GO BEYOND THAT STRUCTURE REALLY SHOULD BE, UM, KIND OF THE GOLD STANDARD MOVING FORWARD.

SO LOOKING AT WHAT THOSE ARE AT EACH PARK, UH, IS IMPORTANT.

THEN ESTABLISHING THE NEXT PRIORITIZED PARK REPLACEMENT SCHEDULE, THAT'S THE END GOAL.

UM, LOOKING AT KIND OF A FIVE YEAR FORECAST MAKES THE MOST SENSE, BUT WE'RE OPEN TO, UM, KEEPING OPTIONS FLEXIBLE TOO.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

OKAY, SO WE'RE GONNA WALK THROUGH THIS KIND OF LIKE SPEED DATING, UH, GET TO KNOW YOUR PARKS, PLAYGROUNDS AGAIN.

UH, THIS WAS A FUN EXERCISE FOR SOME OF OUR NEW STAFF THAT JUST JOINED A WAY TO GET 'EM OUT THERE AND, UM, VISIT THE PARKS AND PLAYGROUNDS.

WE HAD 'EM BRING THEIR BADGES AND MARKED VEHICLES SO THAT WE'RE NOT JUST OUT THERE TAKING PICTURES OF, YOU KNOW, RANDOM PEOPLE IN PARKS, WHICH WE, WE DO TOO.

BUT ANYWAY, WE'LL KEEP GOING.

WE'RE GONNA START WITH THE, THE MOST VINTAGE PARKS, AND WE'RE GONNA WORK OUR WAY TOWARDS THE NEWER INSTALLED.

SO WE'LL MOVE PRETTY QUICKLY, BUT JUST WANTED TO GIVE EVERYBODY KIND OF AN OVERVIEW, UM, FROM, FROM PAST TO PRESENT.

SO, WISEMAN AIRPORT PARK, THIS ACTUALLY HAS TWO PLAYGROUND STRUCTURES WITHIN THE ONE ON THE RIGHT IS YOUR FIVE TO 12.

UH, THE ONE ON YOUR LEFT IS YOUR TWO TO FIVE.

AND NOTICE YOU DO HAVE SOME OF THAT KIND OF PEBBLE FLEX SURFACE ON THE WAY FROM THE CONCRETE PATHWAY TO THE FIRST DECK AND PLATFORM STRUCTURE THAT GIVES YOU NICE A DA ACCESS.

BUT THE REST OF IT IS OUR MOST COMMON PLAYGROUND SURFACE, WHICH IS THE ENGINEERED WOOD FIBER OR THE CHIPS.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

FOLLOWED SHORTLY BY WESTRIDGE PARK.

THIS IS A TWO TO FIVE, I'M SORRY, A FIVE TO 12 STRUCTURE.

IT HAS AN INDEPENDENT, THEY CALL INDEPENDENT CLIMBERS, UM, THAT ALSO CAN BE FIVE TO 12, UH, BUT A KIND OF A LONG LINEAR PARK THERE WITH ENGINEERED WOOD FIBER.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

MCDOWELL PARK ALSO HAS THE TWO INDEPENDENT PLAY AREAS, ONE, TWO TO 5, 1 5 TO 12, AND THEN IT HAS TWO, UH, DIFFERENT BAY SWINGS, UH, WITH TWO SWINGS ON EACH TO THE RIGHT OF THAT PICTURE.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

ALSO, IN 1996, IT WAS A BIG YEAR FOR PLAYGROUNDS, UH, IS LUC CASEY PARK, OUR LARGEST, UH, SQUARE FOOTAGE PLAYGROUND, UM, IN THIS, THAT THE CITY HAS.

THESE ARE ALSO, YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE IT, BUT THERE'S THREE INDEPENDENT STRUCTURES HERE.

UH, ONE, TWO TO 5, 1 5 TO 12, AND ANOTHER, UM, INDEPENDENT WITH SOME SEESAW IN SWING FEATURES.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

LARA IS TWO INDEPENDENT STRUCTURES, ONE IN FIVE FROM 12, 1, 2 TO FIVE, AND SOME BASE WINGS ON BOTH.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

EAGLE PARK IS ONE OF OUR LAST REMAINING PARKS WITH THE SAND, COMPLETE SAND SURFACE, UH, WHICH WE CAN TALK ABOUT LATER.

UH, BUT THESE TWO STRUCTURES ARE A LITTLE CLOSER TOGETHER, BUT THEY DO HAVE THAT, IT'S KIND OF COVERED BY THE SAND IN THE PICTURE TO THE RIGHT, BUT THEY HAVE THE, THE A DA ACCESS, UM, RUBBER PADS TO THE DECKEN PLATFORM.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THIS IS KENNELWORTH PARK ALSO IN 1996.

A TWO TO FIVE STRUCTURE ON THE RIGHT, AND A FIVE TO 12 ON THE LEFT.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

MCNEAR LANDING PARK, UH, WHICH IS AN INTERESTING PARK IF YOU'VE NOT BEEN GREAT SHADE.

YOU CAN SEE HERE, THIS IS A TWO TO FIVE PLAY AREA OR A TOT LOT.

UM, YOU ALSO HAVE AN HOA THAT, THAT

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BACKS UP TO THE PARK AS WELL.

SO THERE'S KIND OF SOME SHARED MAINTENANCE AROUND THE GROUNDS, BUT THE, THE STRUCTURE IS A PUBLIC PARK AND MAINTAINED AS SUCH.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

OAK HILL PARK.

UH, THERE IS A UNIQUE KIND OF ZIP LINE FEATURE THAT'S JUST OUT OF VIEW ON THE RIGHT, UH, BUT THIS IS A FIVE TO 12 STRUCTURE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

WE'RE MOVING IN TO THE 21ST CENTURY AND WE'RE AT MCNAIR PARK.

UH, OUT OF VIEW ALSO IS A SMALLER STRUCTURE FOR TWO TO FIVE, BUT THIS IS, UM, ESSENTIALLY A, A LARGER FIVE TO 12 STRUCTURE.

ALL ENGINEERED WOOD CHIPS HERE, AND THERE'S A SMALL SANDBANK AREA JUST OUT OF VIEW, UM, TO THE WEST OF THE PARK.

WALNUT PARK, 2004, TWO INDEPENDENT STRUCTURES, UM, FIVE TO 12 AND TWO TO FIVE.

NEXT SLIDE.

SOUTHGATE PARK IS, UH, A LITTLE BIT OUT OF VIEW, BUT THERE ARE, THERE ARE DIFFERENT PARKS OF THIS PARK.

THERE ARE A TWO TO FIVE TO THE RIGHT, AND THERE'S A LOT OF CLIMBING UNITS, WHICH IS A DIFFERENT, ACTUALLY, PLAYGROUND INSTALLER ON THE LEFT.

UH, THAT'S FIVE TO 12.

NEXT SLIDE.

WEST HAVEN PARK IS ALSO 2005 OR, OR JUST PRIOR TWO.

UM, THIS IS A TWO TO FIVE, UM, ESSENTIALLY, AND, UH, TWO BASE WINGS FOR TODDLERS.

NEXT SLIDE.

LEGHORNS PARK WAS 2005, 2006.

UH, THERE ARE THREE INDEPENDENT STRUCTURES HERE, PLUS SWINGS.

THE TOWER THERE WITH THE THREE SLIDES PROTRUDING.

THAT IS A FIVE TO 12 STRUCTURES, OR IF YOU'RE THERE AFTER HOURS, IT'S A 13 PLUS HANGOUT, BUT, UM, DESIGNED TO BE A FIVE 12.

AND JUST OUT OF VIEW TO THE RIGHT IS A CLIMBER AND A CASTLE STRUCTURE FOR TWO TO FIVE.

NEXT SLIDE.

MANION KNOWLES, UH, WHICH IS A BEAUTIFUL SETTING, UH, IS A SMALLER FIVE TO 12 STRUCTURE WITH A LITTLE ZIP LINE THERE.

UM, BUT YOU'VE GOT THOSE NICE LITTLE CLIMBERS THAT ARE ENTICING FOR THE, THE LITTLE ONES AS WELL.

NEXT SLIDE.

FOX HOLLOW PARK, 2008.

UH, THAT IS A FIVE TO 12 STRUCTURE.

AND THEN OUT OF VIEW ON THE LEFT, THERE'S A BAY OF SWINGS, WHICH IS A NICE, UM, DISTANCE BETWEEN THE TWO.

NEXT SLIDE.

THIS IS MCDOWELL MEADOWS, SMALL LITTLE HAMLET OF A PARK.

UH, A PRETTY CLASSIC, UH, TWO TO FIVE STRUCTURE HERE.

NEXT SLIDE.

NOW WE'RE INTO THE, THE LAST SIX.

THESE ARE THE PARKS THAT WERE ON THE PLAYGROUND REPLACEMENT, INCLUDING SOME OF NEW PARKS INSTALLED THAT WERE NOT REPLACED, BUT NEW.

SO THIS IS MEADOWVIEW, THE FIRST, SINCE THE PROGRAM WAS RE-INSTITUTED.

THIS IS A FIVE TO 12, UH, PLAY STRUCTURE, WHICH REALLY MAXIMIZES THE SPACE WITH THAT TALL, UM, WEB CLIMBER.

AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THE, UM, THE COZY DOME, WHICH IS ONE OF THE MORE POPULAR FEATURES THAT WE SEE IN THE PARK TO THE RIGHT.

NEXT SLIDE, 2015.

SO THIS IS PROBABLY THE LAST ONE.

NO, THIS IS A SMALL TWO TO FIVE, UH, YEAR OLD, SORRY, TWO TO FIVE DESIGN PLAYGROUND STRUCTURE, A LITTLE TOT LOT.

NEXT SLIDE.

THE MIRACLE LEAGUE FIELD, WHICH WAS, UH, FUNDED LARGELY IN PART WITH, UH, THE KABOOM GRANTS THAT THE CITY, UH, MIRACLE LEAGUE AND PG E HELPED, UH, CO-SPONSOR TO BE ABLE TO INSTALL.

THAT'S A VERY UNIQUE, FULLY INCLUSIVE PLAYGROUND, NOT PART OF THE REPLACEMENT PROGRAM.

THAT WAS A, A NEW PARK, UM, ESSENTIALLY BUILT A YEAR PRIOR TO THE MIRACLE LEAGUE FIELD BEING INSTALLED THERE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

ARROYO PARK.

THE STRUCTURE TO THE LEFT IS WHAT WAS INSTALLED IN 2017.

UH, THIS IS A TALL KIND OF DECK AND PLATFORM STRUCTURE DESIGNED FOR FIVE TO 12.

AND THEN TO THE RIGHT IS A, UH, TOT LOT THAT WAS REMOVED.

UH, IT HAD WOOD FOOTINGS THAT HAD WERE ROTTED OUT, BUT THERE'S STILL SOME CONCRETE KIND OF PLAY STRUCTURES THERE NOW.

UH, BUT THOSE WERE NOT, THOSE HAVE NOT BEEN REPLACED.

HEY, DREW, CAN I ASK YOU, UM, THE PARKS THAT ARE MARKED OPEN SPACES THAT, DID THOSE RECEIVE FUNDING FROM AGON OPEN SPACE TO GET BUILT? THE, UH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

LIKELY, SOME LIKELY IN THIS CASE, THEY'RE JUST THE PARK NAME BECAUSE IT'S ADJACENT TO OPEN SPACE THAT WE'RE DEDICATED AS PARK LAND.

UM, SO IT WOULD BE A CASE BY CASE BASIS, BUT IT'S REALLY,

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UH, THE OFFICIAL NAME OF THE PARK AND LIKELY CREATED AT A TIME WHERE THEY KNEW A PORTION OF THE PARK WAS GONNA BE DEDICATED SET ASIDE.

AND THAT'S THE CASE HERE IS SEPARATED BY A, UM, A DRY CREEK.

YEAH.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

GOOD QUESTION.

MM-HMM .

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

FOLLOWED BY ARROYO WAS ME, WALK PARK.

IF, UM, ANYONE REMEMBERS, I THINK IT WAS KELLY WAS ON THE FIRST YOU ON A COMMISSION, THEN THIS WAS A VERY, UM, INTERESTING PARK.

THIS WAS ONE OF THE FIRST OR FEW THAT WE DID WITH THE, UH, PEBBLE FLEX OR THE FULL INCLUSIVE SURFACE, LARGELY BECAUSE, UM, WE WERE ABLE TO ONE, ONE, BUT WE HAVE VERY UNIQUE DRAINAGE CHALLENGES HERE.

AND THEY WERE ABLE TO KIND OF, UH, RE-ENGINEER THIS.

AND THEN IT WAS, IT WAS VERY, UM, IT WAS SO NICE THAT WITH THE DAILY AXE PLAN THAT ALSO CAME IN A COUPLE YEARS LATER OR, OR A FEW THESE YEARS LATER TO ADD THAT, UM, DRAINAGE BAY ON THE BACK.

THIS WAS ONE OF THE PARKS THAT WAS LIKE ALMOST A NAVIGABLE WHEN WE GOT REALLY, REALLY HEAVY RAIN.

AND NOW IT'S, IT'S SO, IT'S SUCH A RESILIENT SPACE.

WE HAVE NOT SEEN THIS PLAYGROUND FLOOD.

AND NOW WITH THAT BIOSWALE, THE REST OF THE PARK IS ALSO, UM, USABLE, BUT VERY KINDA INTERESTING FOR US.

WE DON'T TYPICALLY GET A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES TO DO THE, UM, FULLY KIND OF ACCESSIBLE PLAY SURFACE, BUT THIS ONE GETS A LOT OF ACTIVE USE FOR FOLKS THAT ARE REALLY SEEKING OUT THAT TYPE OF PLAY.

AND IT HAS NICE MATURE SHEET, BUT TWO TO FIVE, I'M SORRY, FIVE TO 12 IS THE AGE RANGE FOR THIS PARK.

NEXT, PLEASE, BOND PARK.

THIS IS A TWO TO FIVE STRUCTURE, BUT IT HAS A LOT OF INDEPENDENT PLAY AREAS AROUND THE PERIMETER.

SO IT'S, IT'S ICONIC IN A CASE THAT, UH, IN A SENSE THAT IT'S A SMALLER PLAY STRUCTURE WITHIN A LARGER FOOTPRINT.

BUT AGAIN, OFFERING SOME OF THOSE INDEPENDENCE, THOSE NEW KIND OF SOUND MACHINES, UM, THE SPINNERS, THE DOUBLE BAY FOR THE TOT AND THEN THE SEEDING REALLY KIND OF CREATES A LOT OF PLACES TO PLAY IN BETWEEN THE ELEMENTS, WHICH IS HOW WE SEE THE PARK PLAY TODAY.

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THAT WAS FOLLOWED BY GRANT PARK IN 2023.

SIMILAR THEMES.

YOU HAVE A LOT OF THE, UM, NATURAL THEME DESIGNS, BUT THOSE ARE, UM, CONCRETE KIND OF COMPOSITE STRUCTURES.

SO THEY'LL BE, THEY'LL LAST A LONG TIME.

BUT A, A FIVE TO 12 STRUCTURE HERE.

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THIS WAS A NEW, UH, PARK AS PART OF THE RIVER VIEW DEVELOPMENT BY THE HYATT, I BELIEVE IT IS.

UH, THIS ALSO HAS A MULTI-USE PLAY SPACE, UH, ADJACENT TO IT, BUT NICE SHADE.

IT'S A 2, 2 5 PLAYGROUND.

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AND THIS WAS, UH, THE FINAL ON OUR REPLACEMENT LIST.

THIS WAS ANNA'S MEADOWS PARK.

THE SHADE STRUCTURE AND SEATING IS JUST OUT OF VIEW, BUT, UM, THIS PARK HAS A LOT TO CAPTURE.

SO, UM, REALLY, UH, PROUD OF THIS ONE, USING FIVE TO 12 AS THE DESIGN THEMES, BUT ALSO MAYBE OFFERING SOME AMENITIES FOR THAT 13 PLUS TOO THAT COME THROUGH THAT AREA WITH JUST THE SHADE SEATING, UH, AND THE TRAVEL THROUGH THAT NICE LITTLE COZY SLIDE THAT CAN BRING YOU IN A, SORRY, COZY SWING THAT CAN BRING YOU AND FOR YOUR FRIENDS, MAYBE FIVE.

NEXT SLIDE.

OKAY.

SO THAT KIND OF WENT THROUGH THE, THE ROUND OF SPEED DATING.

WE DID IT, UM, 28 PLAYGROUNDS.

W WE HAVE NEW TOOLS THAT WE HAD WHEN WE IN 2015, AND A LOT OF IT IS JUST OUR ABILITIES TO ADD NEW LAYERS AND POINT OUT THINGS AND PUT DATA INTO SOME OF OUR GS GIS MAPPING ABOUT WHERE THESE PLAYGROUNDS ARE, WHAT CRITERIA WE WANNA SET SO THAT WE CAN KIND OF PULL THOSE LEVERS AND LOOK AT THINGS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY THAN WE HAD BACK THEN.

SO THIS IS JUST MEANT AS A REPRESENTATION OF A STANDARD GIS TO SAY, WHERE ARE THE PLAYGROUNDS? JUST SOME YEAR CRITERIA, LET'S START THERE.

BUT IT'S MEANT TO SPUR KIND OF DISCUSSION AND FEEDBACK ON WHAT KIND OF TOOLS DO YOU WANNA SEE? WHAT TYPE OF, UM, AMENITIES WOULD YOU LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT? AREAS THAT YOU MAYBE AREN'T ASSOCIATED WITH PLAYGROUNDS, BUT THEY COULD BE SCHOOLS OR PATHWAYS, UH, FEEDBACK THAT WE CAN START BUILDING OUT SOME MAPS SO THAT WE DO SOME COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

FOLKS CAN REALLY GIVE US SOME FEEDBACK ON A CRITERIA THAT'S IMPORTANT TO THEM, AND WE CAN LAND WITH A NEW PROGRAM SCHEDULE THAT WE FEEL IS REPRESENTATIVE OF THE COMMUNITY.

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SO TO RECAP A LITTLE BIT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, ULTIMATELY OUR GOAL IS TO HELP ESTABLISH SOME CRI

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CRITERIA TO PRIORITIZE THE NEXT ROUND OF REPLACEMENTS.

I WOULD LOVE TO GET FEEDBACK TONIGHT AS WELL.

AND ANY STRATEGY FOR THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AS IT RELATES TO PLAYGROUNDS.

IF YOU ASK MOST PEOPLE WHAT PLAYGROUNDS SHOULD BE REPLACED, YOU'RE GONNA GET ANSWERS THAT REVOLVE AROUND WHERE USUALLY THEY LIVE, WHERE THEY PLAY.

SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT, AND THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT'S NOT IMPORTANT FEEDBACK, BUT WHAT ELSE CAN WE DO, UM, TO HELP DRAW OUT THAT EQUITY CONVERSATION? AND WHEN WE SAY EQUITY, WHAT, WHAT REALLY SHOULD THAT MEAN? UM, IS IT EQUAL EXPERIENCES? IS IT, UM, PLAYGROUNDS THAT ARE JUST DUE FOR REPLACEMENTS IN CERTAIN AREAS? SO JUST HAVING MORE OF THAT OPEN, UM, FORTHRIGHT CONVERSATION EARLIER ALLOWS US TO GARNER SUPPORT ON STICKING TO A A, A PROGRAM.

AND WHAT INFORMATION SHOULD WE INCLUDE IN THE MAPS? ANY KINDA, I THINK THE SKY'S LIMIT JUST TO BE AS CREATIVE AS POSSIBLE.

UM, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF NEW, UM, PARALLEL OF, OR CON CONCURRENT GENERAL PLANS, YOU KNOW, 15 MINUTE NEIGHBORHOODS, BLUE ZONES, SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL, ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

THERE'S A LOT OF CITY-WIDE EFFORTS TO MASTER PLAN OR DESIGN FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE ALL KNOW ARE IMPORTANT.

SO WHAT, WHAT KIND OF INFORMATION SHOULD WE INCORPORATE INTO MAPS TO HELP PEOPLE FEEL GOOD ABOUT PLAYGROUNDS, UH, AND WHAT SHOULD BE IMPORTANT THERE? SO THAT IS IT FOR TONIGHT.

WHEN I HAND IT BACK TO YOU CHAIR, HAPPY TO OPEN UP FOR QUESTIONS AND, UM, FEEDBACK.

THANK YOU.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, UM, MAYBE START TO THE RIGHT, UM, KATE, WELL DO I, DO YOU WANT CLARIFYING QUESTIONS FIRST? SO LET'S START WITH CLARIFYING AND THEN WE CAN GO TO COMMENTS AFTERWARDS.

UM, ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF ME, ANY CLARIFYING QUESTIONS? I'M JUST WONDERING WITH KENNELWORTH IF THAT'S A DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCE OR WHERE THAT, WHERE THAT COMES FROM.

AND SO IF THAT COUNTS IN PLAY OR IF THAT'S TAKEN OUT AND IF THERE'S ANY OTHER PARKS IN THAT REALM.

I THINK KENWORTH WOULD BE THE ONLY ONE.

RIGHT? GREAT.

GREAT QUESTION.

YES.

SO KENNELWORTH PARK, UM, ESSENTIALLY IS THE ONLY PARK ON THE LIST THAT HAS, HAS RECEIVED, UH, ESSENTIALLY A MINI MASTER PLAN.

SO GOING THROUGH THE EFFORT TO NOT JUST LOOK AT THE PLAY STRUCTURE ITSELF, BUT THE WHOLE PARK FROM UNDERGROUND DRAINAGE CONSTRAINTS TO ACCESS THROUGH THE PARKS, TO THE PLAYGROUND, TO THE STRUCTURES, TO THE PATHWAYS, ET CETERA.

SO IT'S NOT OFF LIMITS.

IT SHOULD ABSOLUTELY BE CONSIDERED.

AND, YOU KNOW, THE DESIGN FOR THE PLAYGROUND FEATURE SHOULD BE TALKED ABOUT IN THE SAME LIGHT.

THE FUNDING FOR THAT, UM, WILL ESSENTIALLY COME WITH, UH, TIME AS WE TALK ABOUT THE FAIRGROUND AND THE MASTER PLAN FOR THAT AS WELL, BECAUSE A LOT OF THE CORE ELEMENTS WITH THE KENWORTH PARK HAS TO DO WITH THE TRANSPORTATION AND THE ACCESS TO THAT SITE.

AND IT'S ALL ON THE SAME KIND OF FOOTPRINT OR PARCEL AS THE FAIRGROUNDS PROPERTY.

SO, UM, I GUESS THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION IS WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE PLAYGROUND THERE, BUT WE KNOW A LOT OF THE CONSTRAINTS, THE DRAINAGE, THE ACCESS AND ALL THERE.

SO IT WOULD HAVE TO COME WITH THE SAME CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT'S GONNA BE THE PLAN TO DO THAT BEFORE YOU DO THE PLAYGROUND.

YEAH.

ANY CLARIFYING QUESTIONS ON THIS SIDE? NO.

SO IF I HEARD YOU RIGHT, DREW ON KENNELWORTH, UH, WE CAN DISCUSS IT, BUT IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE OF EVERYTHING AT, UM, THE FAIRGROUNDS.

IS THAT, IS THAT FAIR? THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I HEAR.

YEAH.

SO SET, SET ANOTHER WAY.

AND IT'S HARD WITHOUT THE DESIGN IN FRONT OF US, BUT, UM, IT'S MORE THAN A PLAYGROUND REPLACEMENT, RIGHT? YEAH.

IT'S, IT'S REALLY RESHIFTING AND MOVING THE WHOLE SIDE OF WHERE THAT PLAYGROUND AND HOW IT'S REACTED.

SO IT WOULDN'T PROBABLY LIST ON A PLAYGROUND REPLACEMENT SCHEDULE.

IT'D BE LIKE, WHERE DOES THAT FALL IN A PLAYGROUND PROGRAM? AND DO YOU, IS IT WORTH TO JUST, YOU KNOW, PULL THAT PLAYGROUND OUT AND TALK ABOUT IT? UM, OR WHERE DOES THAT FALL WITHIN THE PRIORITY LIST OF THE OTHER REPLACEMENTS? SO ENGAGE ON IT.

DON'T AVOID KENNELWORTH PARK.

UM, BUT THERE MAY BE OTHER THINGS TO SAY, WELL, REALISTICALLY THAT IF YOU HAVE A FUNDING THAT'S LOOKING, YOU KNOW, MULTIPLE YEARS, SHOULD WE BE INVESTING IN SITE AMENITIES TO MAKE THAT A BETTER PLAYGROUND NOW? OR IS THAT MONEY NOT WELL SPENT? AND SHOULD WE HOLD THAT UNTIL WE CAN INVEST IN THE LARGER IMPROVEMENTS THERE? OKAY.

I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY.

'CAUSE IT, IT AT FIRST SEEMED LIKE

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AVOIDING THE, THE CONVERSATION ABOUT IT.

UM, OKAY, GREAT.

THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING.

CAN I ASK ANOTHER QUESTION? OF COURSE.

UM, SO ALONG THOSE LINES THEN, ARE THERE ANY OTHER PARKS LIKE EWOK? WAIT, YEAH.

MEWA, WAS IT MEWA THAT HAD THE SURFACE, RIGHT? MM-HMM .

ARE THERE ANY OTHER PARKS LIKE THAT, THAT IT'S MORE THAN JUST, 'CAUSE THE DRAINAGE WAS SO BAD THERE BEFORE AND IT WAS SUCH AN UNDERTAKING AND IT, IT, THE EXPENSE WAS MORE, RIGHT? MM-HMM .

THAN LIKE, WE HAD TO MAKE DECISIONS AT THAT POINT.

DO WE DO THIS OR DO WE DO THAT? MM-HMM .

ARE THERE ANY OTHER PARKS THAT ARE IN THAT REALM WHERE IT, IT'S MORE THAN JUST REPLACING THE STRUCTURE? GREAT QUESTION.

I WOULD, I WOULD PUT KENNELWORTH ON THAT LIST AS WELL.

IF, IF YOU REMEMBER THE DESIGN, WE, WE DID CALL FOR, UM, THE RUBBER SURFACE IN THOSE PLAY AREAS BECAUSE OF THE DRAINAGE ISSUES THAT WE HAD THERE.

WE WANTED TO MOVE THE WATER AROUND THE PLAY STRUCTURE.

SO THAT WAS ONE THAT COMES TO MIND.

I, I COULDN'T TELL YOU, WE'VE NOT HAD THE PERVASIVE FLOODING AT OTHER PARKS, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF KENWORTH AND WISEMAN PARK.

THAT'S ANOTHER AREA.

UM, BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WISEMAN PARK WAS DESIGNED, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SOCCER AND THE CROSS, THE MULTI-USE FIELDS ARE ESSENTIALLY KIND OF RE DETENTION PONDS FOR, FOR WATER, RIGHT? WE, WE BUILT THAT PARK KNOWING THAT IT'S GONNA BE A KIND OF RESILIENCY FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO WHEN WE DO THAT PARK, IT WILL, WE WILL HAVE TO COME WITH SOME MORE, UH, ATTENTION TO THE DRAINAGE IN THAT PART TOO.

YEP.

COMMISSIONER SIMMONS? YEAH, I JUST HAD A CLARIFYING QUESTION ON KENNELWORTH.

UM, I KNOW WE HAVE A GRANT.

WAS THE GRANT JUST FOR DESIGN OR WAS IT FOR FURTHER, AND I KNEW THERE WAS A TIME LIMIT ON THAT GRANT AS WELL, RIGHT? YES.

THE PROP 68 GRANT WAS FOR DESIGN, ESSENTIALLY TO KICKSTART THE DESIGN.

WE HAD OTHER FUNDING SOURCES THAT COME IN TO PAY FOR THE DESIGN.

UM, SO YEAH, THERE, THERE WAS NEVER, UH, THE FUNDING TO, TO DO THE CONSTRUCTION PORTION.

IT WAS, UM, KNOWING THERE WAS EVERYTHING, UH, THAT NEEDED TO BE DESIGNED AT THAT PARK.

UH, WE DECIDED RATHER THAN SPREAD IT OUT A LITTLE BIT AT THREE PARKS, WE PUT IT ALL IN AT KENNELWORTH TO GET AS ROBUST OF A DESIGN AS WE COULD.

YEP.

WELL, WAS THAT THE FUNDING THAT GOT REALLOCATED TO THE SKATE PARK? SO PORTION OF THE PROP 68 DID, UM, YOU CAN USE, SO I THINK, UH, I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBERS, BUT 200 AND SOMETHING, 7,002, 17,000, WHATEVER THE FUNDING WAS FOR THE PROP 68, WE CAN USE A PORTION OF THAT FOR DESIGN.

THE REST OF IT WE COULD ALLOCATE FOR THE SKATE PARK FOR CONSTRUCTION.

UM, YES.

YEAH, AND WE USED OTHER FUNDING SOURCES AT KENNELWORTH TO FINISH THAT DESIGN, BUT I THINK PROP 68 IS WHAT GOT IT OUT THE DOOR OR OUT THE GATE.

YEAH.

OKAY.

IF THERE'S NO OTHER CLARIFYING QUESTIONS, WE'LL GO TO COMMENTS.

UM, OH, I'M SORRY.

THANK YOU.

UM, WE DO NOT HAVE, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS? NO.

YES.

GREAT.

AND THIS IS NINA ZITO.

THANK YOU.

NINA, THANK YOU FOR YOUR THOUGHTFUL ANALYSIS HERE.

I'M, I'M STRUCK BY THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT EXIST, UM, BECAUSE I'M HEARING A LOT THAT SEEMS HIGHLY STRUCTURED, BASE CONFINED, UH, TO A, A GROUP OF USERS WHO INCLUDE LIKE MOMS, DADS, CAREGIVERS AND YOUTH, AND IT KIND OF DIES OUT AT 13, BUT MAYBE IT THEN TRICKLES INTO, YOU KNOW, TEENS.

AND THIS MAY BE BY DESIGN OR BY MANDATE.

THIS MAY BE PART OF YOUR, PART OF A PROCESS THAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND, BUT I FEEL LIKE THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES AS WE SPEAK ABOUT EQUITY TO, UH, MAKE THE PARKS, UH, MORE EMBRACING OF ELDERS AND OTHER USERS LIKE, UH, THE DOG FOLKS.

AND I LOVE THAT YOU GUYS ARE KEEPING SO CURRENT, UH, WITH OUR BEAUTIFUL PARKS.

UH, AND IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THE BIRTH RATE IS DROPPING AND, YOU KNOW, OLD FOLKS, THEIR KIDS HAVE LAUNCHED AND THEY'RE GETTING DOGS, AND THERE ARE PEOPLE HERE WHO HAVE DOGS, BUT THERE'S JUST NOT A WHOLE LOT IN THE WAY OF INCLUDING THAT.

AND THEY'RE AN IMPORTANT PART OF A COMMUNITY WHO DOGS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A RURAL COMMUNITY.

UH, AND THE MOST FUN I HAVE AT THE PARK IS

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WHEN KIDS SEE THE BIG DOG AND THEY THINK IT'S A LITTLE HORSE, OR THEY DON'T KNOW, BUT IT'S A MANAGED THING.

SO I'M ASKING TWO THINGS THAT YOU CONSIDER OPPORTUNITIES IN, IN INCLUDING OLDER FOLKS IN YOUR STRUCTURE DESIGN AND BEING SUPER CREATIVE AROUND THAT.

UM, AND MAYBE THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE ODD, YOU KNOW, GUY WHO HANGS OUT OR WHATEVER, WHO SHOULDN'T BE THERE, BUT BRINGING EVERYONE INTO THE PICTURE IS KIND OF WONDERFUL, AND IT FEELS LIKE A HUGE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THINGS SO MUCH BETTER FOR EVERYONE.

THANKS.

THANK YOU, NINA.

AND THERE WERE NO, UH, EMAILED PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR THIS MATTER.

MOVING ON TO COMMISSIONER COMMENTS.

UM, LET'S START TO THE RIGHT.

UM, DO YOU WANNA START? ARE YOU OKAY? ALL RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER GREENSPAN.

THAT'S FINE.

, IT'S ALWAYS THE RIGHT.

UM, COOL.

WELL, I DEFINITELY THINK I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ON THOSE MAPS AND, UM, SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE DIFFERENT WAYS TO DESIGNATE AND THINK ABOUT WHICH REPLACEMENTS, UM, ARE THE BEST USE OF THESE FUNDS ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, SCHOOL ZONES, BIKE ROUTES, UM, THE KIND OF PARK TO PARK ROUTES.

I THINK AS WE'RE TRYING TO ENGAGE AND ENCOURAGE PETALUMA TO BE MORE CLIMATE RESILIENT, UM, PRIORITIZING PARKS THAT ARE ACCESSIBLE THROUGH, UM, BIKE AND ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION IS GREAT.

UM, AND JUST ALONG THE IMPACT, I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO DISCUSS, YOU KNOW, LIKE, I MEAN, AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, KENNELWORTH IS THE REASON THAT I'M EVEN HERE BECAUSE THAT IS A PROJECT THAT I'M SO PASSIONATE ABOUT, BUT IT'S SUCH A BIG PROJECT THAT HAS SO MUCH THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE OVER SUCH A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.

SO I THINK THE IMPACT OF, YOU KNOW, WE'LL GET THERE, BUT, UM, I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, LIKE ANNA'S MEADOWS, THAT WAS SUCH A IMPACTFUL, LIKE, UM, THE DESIGN WAS, UH, I JUST THINK IT WAS SUCH A GREAT PROJECT THAT MADE A BIG DIFFERENCE IN A BIG WAY WITHOUT HAVING TO, YOU KNOW, GO THROUGH DRAINAGE AND, AND ALL THESE OTHER KIND OF BUCKETS.

UM, SO I KNOW SOME OF THEM ARE QUICK FIXES AND SOME OF THEM ARE HUGE PROJECTS LIKE KENNELWORTH.

UM, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU COULD REPRESENT THAT INFORMATION ON, YOU KNOW, MAPS ABOUT KIND OF LIKE WHAT THE NEEDS ARE AND, UM, KIND OF, IT, IT'S HARD TO, BECAUSE WE ARE NOT IN LIKE THE PLANNING PROCESS, EXCUSE ME.

SO , IT'S HARD TO SAY LIKE, OKAY, THIS IS GONNA BE A SIX MONTH PROJECT VERSUS A FIVE YEAR LONG RAISING FUNDS GETTING, YOU KNOW, LIKE KENNELWORTH IS.

SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW.

I'M NOT SURE IF THAT MAKES SENSE, BUT, AND THEN I'D ALSO LIKE TO SEE, I MEAN, A LOT OF THE PARKS ON THE EAST SIDE, YOU KNOW, UM, WERE REPLACED IN THIS LAST ROUND, WHICH IS GREAT.

I THINK THAT THAT WAS EXACTLY WHAT NEEDED TO HAPPEN.

UM, SO MANY OF THOSE PARKS WERE SO, SO OLD .

BUT, YOU KNOW, NOW THAT LEAVES THE WEST SIDE IN KIND OF THIS STRANGE PLACE WHERE, UM, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, FROM AN EQUITY STANDPOINT, A LOT OF THE WEST SIDE FAMILIES, SOME OF THEM, YOU KNOW, COULD HAVE THE MEANS TO GO TO OTHER PARKS OR MAYBE IF THEIR PREFERRED PARK ISN'T AS IN AS GREAT SHAPE AS THEY WOULD LIKE, THEY COULD, YOU KNOW, FIND SOMETHING ELSE TO DO.

WHEREAS THE EAST SIDE, UM, IT'S KIND OF HARDER TO GET AROUND JUST BY WALKING AROUND AND BIKING.

SO, UM, BUT YOU KNOW, NOW WE'RE LEFT WITH OAK HILL, MCNAIR, KIND OF SOME OF THESE KENNELWORTH, SOME OF THESE STRUCTURES THAT ARE SO OLD.

UM, AND I THINK THE AGE FRIENDLY COMPONENT, I JUST LOVE THE IDEA OF SOMETHING THAT, UM, COMMISSIONER ELLI WE TALK ABOUT A LOT IS, UM, WAS IT THE, UM, IN SAN FRANCISCO? REMIND ME OF THE NAME OF, WAS IT WILLIE?

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WILLIE WOO WOO WONG.

YES, THAT'S IT.

, WHICH I'VE BEEN TO THAT PARK MANY TIMES.

AND IT'S JUST A FANTASTIC USE OF, UM, SPACE IN THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR INTERGENERATIONAL CONNECTION AND AMENITIES FOR NOT JUST KIDS, BUT YOU KNOW, CAREGIVERS.

AND, UM, THANK YOU FOR THAT PUBLIC COMMENT ABOUT, UM, INCLUDING AGE FRIENDLY AMENITIES.

'CAUSE I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GREAT THING FOR US TO CONSIDER.

YOU KNOW, WE KIND OF GET LOCKED INTO THE CHILDREN'S PLAY STRUCTURES, FIVE TO 12, TWO TO FIVE.

UM, BUT I THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE ACTIVE EQUIPMENT, KIND OF SOME OF THAT EXERCISE EQUIPMENT, LIKE IT'S, IT COULD BE FOR A VERY WIDE RANGE OF AGES FROM PARENTS ALL THE WAY UP TO, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR SENIORS IN PETALUMA.

SO, UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE RIGHT NOW.

, THAT WAS A LOT.

SORRY.

THANK YOU.

UH, COMMISSIONER SIMMONS.

HI.

YEAH, I'D ALSO LIKE TO LOOK AT LIKE HOW KENNELWORTH COULD BE INCLUDED IN THIS TO LIKE, GET FUNDS THERE TO LIKE, MAKE THIS PROJECT MAYBE ACTUALLY HAPPEN.

UM, AND THEN WISEMAN AS WELL, LIKE, JUST THE WAY THAT WHOLE PARK WAS DESIGNED FROM THE BEGINNING MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE.

LIKE, YOU HAVE THE BATHROOMS OVER BY THE FIELDS, BUT YOU HAVE THE MOMS WITH THEIR TODDLERS AT THE PLAYGROUND, LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, 300, 400 YARDS AWAY FROM THE BATHROOM.

LIKE, THOSE ARE THE KIDS THAT ARE GONNA PEE THEIR PANTS, NOT THE KIDS PLAYING SOCCER .

UM, SO LIKE, THE WHOLE THING JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

SO I FEEL LIKE THAT WILL ALSO BE LIKE A BIG REWORK, LIKE KENWORTH, UM, WITH LIKE POSSIBLY ADDING BATHROOMS BY THE PLAY STRUCTURES OR MOVING THE PLAY STRUCTURES SO THEY'RE CLOSER TO THE, LIKE, SOMETHING IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.

UM, AND THEN ALSO LOU CASEY, UM, I THINK IT'S CHRISSY FIELDS IN THE CITY THAT HAS LIKE, KIND OF THIS WALKING PATH WHERE YOU STOP AND THERE'S LIKE THE EXERCISE EQUIPMENT THAT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA TO DO AROUND LOU CASEY AROUND THE POND.

YOU'RE WALKING LIKE EVERY, I DON'T KNOW, QUARTER MILE OR EIGHTH OF A MILE OR WHATEVER, THERE'S A PLACE TO STOP AND DO SOME THINGS.

UM, SO YEAH, THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS ON THE PARKS.

AND BEFORE MEGAN CAN SAY, I'LL SAY IT, PARKS MASTER PLAN, PARKS MASTER PLAN.

WE NEED A PARKS MASTER PLAN IN ORDER TO MAKE ANY KIND OF DECISIONS LIKE THIS WITHOUT A PARKS MASTER PLAN.

WE, WE DON'T KNOW.

WE DON'T KNOW, RIGHT.

UM, THANKS FOR THE LEAD UP THERE, .

I GOT TWO MONTHS LEFT TO, TO SHARE THAT.

UM, FIRST OF ALL, LIKE WALK DOWN MEMORY LANE.

OH MY GOSH, THAT WAS LIKE THE PANDEMIC FOR ME RIGHT THERE.

, I WENT TO EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE PARKS MULTIPLE TIMES A WEEK.

UM, AND HONESTLY, SOME OF 'EM ARE OLDER THAN I THOUGHT THAT THEY WERE.

I MEAN, THEY'VE REALLY HELD UP, WHICH IS IMPRESSIVE.

I MEAN, SOME OF THEM ARE, HAVEN'T HELD UP AS WELL, BUT I, I FOUND THAT REALLY IMPRESSIVE.

UM, I ALSO WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE AND APPRECIATE, UH, THE EXPANSION TO INCLUDE AMENITIES.

I FEEL LIKE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE COMMISSION, THAT THAT'S COME UP EVERY SINGLE TIME THAT WE'VE REDONE A PARK OR A PLAYGROUND.

AND, UM, WITHOUT THE, WITHOUT THE AMENITIES, IT'S NOT A COMPLETE, UM, UH, REVAMP.

UM, AND THE AGE FRIENDLY PIECE, UM, I THINK THAT THAT'S KIND OF A, A PRIORITY OF THIS COMMISSION.

I'VE SEEN IT OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS OF, UM, MAKING EVERYTHING AGE FRIENDLY, LOVED HEARING THE EXERCISE EQUIPMENT OVER HERE.

I FEEL LIKE THAT'S THE OTHER THING.

I HAVE TWO MONTHS TO KEEP PUSHING.

UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF EXERCISE EQUIPMENT COMES OUT OF THE SAME PUT OF MONEY OR A DIFFERENT PUT OF MONEY, BUT, UM, THAT GOES TO AGE FRIENDLY.

I MEAN, MY 9-YEAR-OLD WOULD BE STOKED TO HAVE EXERCISE EQUIPMENTS TO WORK OUT ON.

UM, I WOULD LOVE ON THE MAPS TO SEE POPULATION DENSITY.

I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

UM, UH, ACCESS ROUTES, UM, ALL OF THAT.

BUT TO ME THE NUMBER ONE THING IS SAFETY.

LIKE ANNA'S MEADOW, IT, IT, IT WASN'T SAFE.

IT, IT WASN'T SAFE TO HAVE THAT STRUCTURE EXIST ANY LONGER.

UM, AND SO BEFORE, LIKE IF I, IF I AM STILL ON THE COMMISSION WHEN THESE DECISIONS ARE MADE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'LL BE, UM, MADE WHILE I'M STILL HERE, BUT I WOULD LOOK AT SAFETY BEFORE LOOKING AT ANYTHING ELSE.

UM, AND THEN ALSO DECISION MAKING.

I TOTALLY AGREE WITH WISEMAN AND KENNELWORTH, AND I THINK THAT THIS COMMISSION GOT REALLY, REALLY EXCITED ABOUT KENNELWORTH.

SO IT'S A LITTLE DEFEATING .

IT'S NOT HAPPENING ANYTIME SOON.

UM, I TOTALLY AGREE.

I JUST ENCOURAGE, LIKE WHEN WE DID ME WALK, IT WAS A WEIGHING OF WE

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COULD HAVE DONE TWO PARKS FOR THE PRICE OF ME WALK, RIGHT? AND SO JUST, UM, WHILE I DO THINK THAT BOTH OF THOSE PARKS COULD BE, YOU KNOW, CORNERSTONE PARKS AND AMAZING, ESPECIALLY KENNELWORTH RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF TOWN, UM, JUST THAT DECISION MAKING OF WEIGHING ALL THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S WORTH IT TO DO THAT OVER TWO PARKS AND SO FORTH, IF THAT'S THE RATIO.

BUT, UM, BUT YES, SAFETY TO ME IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANYTHING ELSE.

AND IT, LIKE, I WOULD PUT A PARK THAT'S, UM, HASN'T BEEN REDONE IN 20 YEARS VERSUS 25 YEARS, BUT IF IT ISN'T SAFE, THEN WE JUST HAVE THE, WE HAVE THE OBLIGATION.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER ELLI.

YES, I WANNA, UH, CON ECHO AND AGREE WITH MANY OF THE COMMENTS THAT THE PREVIOUS COMMISSIONERS MADE.

UM, PARTICULARLY ABOUT TRYING TO MAKE, UH, PARKS MORE AGE, UH, INCLUSIVE OF ALL AGES AND, UM, AND THE DIFFERENT WAYS OF, UH, SORT OF SLICING AND DICING THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

I THINK AS MANY DIFFERENT WAYS AS WE CAN DO THAT.

LIKE I'D BE INTERESTED IN SEEING HOW MANY KIDS LIVE IN EACH NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, AND WHAT THE AGES OF THE KIDS ARE THAT LIVE IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND, UM, I THINK THERE'S PROBABLY, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANNA LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, INCOME LEVELS IN TERMS OF EQUITY, UH, YOU KNOW, SOCIAL EQUITY, UM, BUT I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE ALREADY TAKING CARE OF LIKE, ALL THE SAFETY ISSUES THAT COME UP AND THOSE ARE A HIGH PRIORITY.

UM, AND AS YOU MENTIONED, SOME OF THE OLDER PARKS DO LOOK TO BE IN PRETTY GOOD CONDITION, EVEN THOUGH THE EQUIPMENT IS OLDER.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S JUST A FACTOR OF, MAYBE LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT, UM, MANUFACTURERS OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT YOU'VE GOTTEN AND TO SEE WHICH ONES ARE THE MOST, THE LONGEST LASTING AND HAVE THE LEAST, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE RECORDS IN TERMS OF MAINTENANCE COSTS FOR THE DIFFERENT PLAYGROUNDS, BUT MAYBE LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WHICH PLAYGROUNDS ARE COSTING THE MOST TO MAINTAIN OVER TIME.

UM, AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE, LIKE THAT.

I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE AS MANY DIFFERENT WAYS AS WE CAN LOOK AT, UM, SORT OF ALL THOSE DIFFERENT FACTORS WOULD BE HELPFUL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN DELEY.

UM, I DON'T HAVE TOO MANY STATEMENTS, BUT I, I GUESS I'VE COME UP WITH SOME MORE QUESTIONS SINCE.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE FIRST IS, ARE, ARE THERE ANY TENTATIVE PLAYGROUNDS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED THAT ARE LIKELY TO BE ON THAT LIST OF SIX, BESIDES DEFINING THE CRITERIA TO FIGURE THEM OUT? SO, IF I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION, UM, ARE THERE PLAYGROUNDS IDENTIFIED WITH LIKE, KNOWN SAFETY ISSUES, OR HAVE WE LIKE, STARTED EVALUATING THAT HAVE BEEN ALREADY EVALUATED TO SOME DEGREE THAT THEY'RE MOST LIKELY GONNA BE ON THAT LIST OF HOWEVER MANY? YEAH, GREAT QUESTION.

WE, WE DO ANNUAL PLAYGROUND INSPECTIONS, AND SO WE ARE KEEPING TABS ON, UM, DIFFERENT ELEMENTS OF EACH PARKS.

I THINK FOR US, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SAFETY, WE ARE REALLY SENSITIVE AROUND, UM, THE PLAYGROUND SURFACES AND FALL SURFACES.

SO THAT REALLY ELEVATES LIKE EAGLE PARK.

UM, THAT IS ONE THAT, UH, IT'S A HIGH COST TO REPLACE A SURFACE WITHOUT ALSO GOING IN AND DOING THE STRUCTURES.

YOU'RE DOING A LOT OF HAND TOOLS AROUND, UM, EACH OF THE FOOTING.

SO THAT IS THE ONE THAT I KNOW, UM, IS KIND OF A, A, A PRIORITY FOR US.

I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANOTHER PLAYGROUND, UM, WITH KNOWN FALL SURFACES THAT RISE TO THE TOP.

EVERYTHING ELSE IS, YOU KNOW, WEIGHING REPLACEMENT COSTS FOR EQUIPMENTS.

TUBE SLIDES TEND TO BE THE MOST EXPENSIVE, THE LONGEST LEAD TIME.

UM, BUT DECKS AND PLATFORMS ARE, ARE NOT.

SO I, THAT WOULD BE MY ONE IF I HAD TO GIVE YOU ONE.

MM-HMM .

AND THEN, UM, COUPLE MONTHS AGO NOW OR SO, WE HAD A PRETTY LONG DRAWN OUT CONVERSATION AT COUNCIL OVER, YOU KNOW, NATURAL FIELDS VERSUS TURF ONES.

AND, AND SO I, I'M CURIOUS IF, HAS THERE BEEN ANY, ANY SORT OF A STUDY TOWARDS MORE NATURAL MATERIALS IN PLAYGROUNDS VERSUS PLASTICS, UM, THAT SORT OF THING, YOU KNOW, USING WOOD AND METAL INSTEAD AND YEAH, I THINK A GREAT QUESTION.

I'M GONNA PIGGYBACK ON WHAT, UM, COMMISSIONER ELLI SAID, THERE ARE HIGHER UPFRONT COSTS FOR THE SURFACE.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE LOOK AT, UM, SAME SQUARE FOOTAGE.

THE, THE PORT IN PLACE RUBBER IS ABOUT A FOUR TO ONE COST OF DOING AN ENGINEERED WOOD FIBER, WHICH THIS IS A PLAYGROUND GRADE WOOD CHIP.

SO THIS IS LIKE SPLINTER RESISTANT, ALL OF THE, IT'S, IT'S A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THEY USED TO GET THOSE, I HATED THEM.

YEAH, MULCH.

AND IT'S, IT'S THE COST OF MAINTENANCE TO TOP THOSE OFF EVERY YEAR,

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UM, WHICH WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO TO MAINTAIN A, A, A GOOD FALL SURFACE.

SO WE DON'T HAVE THOSE ANALYSIS YET, BUT I THINK THAT HAS TO GO INTO THIS AS WELL.

WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE COST OF DOING JUST SURFACING, YOU KNOW, 10 YEARS RIGHT OF COST, WHERE DO THOSE ADD UP WITH THE MAINTENANCE OF THE WOOD CHIPS VERSUS THE PORT IN PLACE RUBBER? AND THEN HOW LONG DOES THE PORT IN PLACE RUBBER HOLD UP TO, TO THE ENVIRONMENTS THAT WE HAVE HERE IN PETALUMA? I DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS, BUT I THINK THOSE ARE GOOD QUESTIONS TO BRING WHEN YOU'RE EVALUATING THE COST OF DOING SURFACES.

AND I THINK WE STARTED THAT WITH ANNA'S MEADOWS AND THAT WAS KIND OF OUR FIRST EXERCISE, AND WE'VE LEARNED A LOT ABOUT THAT.

WE ALSO JUST DON'T HAVE A LOT OF THAT SURFACE TO, UM, AT LEAST IN PETALUMA TO LOOK TO.

BUT MIRACLE LEAGUE, I THINK WAS THE FIRST AND NOW, UM, ME WALK THE SECOND.

YEAH.

OKAY.

NO, THAT'S FINE.

I WAS JUST WONDERING IF IT'S BEEN IN, IN CONSIDERATION.

YEAH.

UM, AND THEN ALSO, YOU KNOW, IF, IF I HADN'T REALLY CONSIDERED MORE, UH, ELDERLY FRIENDLY STUFF AS, AS A FORM OF EQUITY WITH THIS, BUT WHAT, WHAT SORT OF THINGS COULD BE DONE, UM, TO MAKE IT MORE AGE FRIENDLY? YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

WE ALSO KNOW IN SONOMA COUNTY, IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, ABOUT, I THINK 40, 40% OF CARETAKERS OF CHILDREN ARE, UM, ARE ASIAN ADULTS OR SENIORS AT LEAST ONE DAY A WEEK.

THAT'S KIND OF A STAT THAT STANDS OUT THAT'S PRETTY UNIQUE ABOUT THIS COUNTY.

SO THERE'S A DEBATE AROUND SEATING JUST IN GENERAL AROUND PLAYGROUNDS IN THE INDUSTRY.

IT USED TO BE, DO YOU PUT SEATING? DO YOU, DO YOU GIVE UP SQUARE FOOTAGE WITHIN A PLAYGROUND TO PUT SEATING OR DO YOU PUT SEATING ON THE PERIPHERALS? AND WHO DOES THAT ATTRACT PEOPLE TO KIND OF COME IN TO THE PLAYGROUNDS AND AREAS AND, YOU KNOW, ADD THESE COPLAY SPACES? OR DO YOU PUT THAT OUTSIDE AND YOU SAVE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE PLAYGROUNDS? I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS IT'S REALLY SHIFTED TO NOW TRYING TO CREATE PLAY SPACES FOR FOLKS TO COME IN AND COPLAY NEXT TO OR IN WITH, UM, YOUTH.

SO THOSE ARE, THOSE, THOSE COULD BE, YOU KNOW, PORTABLE CHESS TABLES.

THOSE CAN BE PORT IN PLACE, PING PONGS, COULD BE CORN HOLES, COULD BE BARBECUE AREAS.

BUT WHAT WE'RE OFTEN SEEING IS FIXED AREAS FOR PEOPLE TO CONNECT AND GATHER.

WHEN YOU CAN BUILD THAT, THEN YOU BUILD A PLAY SPACE THAT CAN BE MULTI-USE.

SO WE'RE MOVING TOWARDS DESIGNING SOMETHING FOR ONE, SINGULAR USE TO ADDING THINGS THAT A FAMILY COULD COME DOWN AND HAVE A PICNIC WITH, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, UH, A GROUP COULD COME GATHER LATER AND PLAY BUNCO AND HAVING THOSE KIND OF SAME AREAS.

BUT WE KNOW WE NEED SEATING, WE KNOW WE NEED ACCESS, WE KNOW WE NEED SHADE, WE KNOW WE NEED WATER.

AND THOSE ARE KIND OF THOSE CRITICAL ELEMENTS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S MY COMMENTS.

THANK YOU.

UH, COMMISSIONER CHISHOLM.

THANK YOU.

UH, FIRST OF ALL, WHILE THEY MAY STILL BE STANDING, I THINK THE, UH, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE NINETIES AND TWO THOUSANDS, UM, PLAY STRUCTURES IS PRETTY GLARING.

UH, I WOULD SAY YOU START WITH THE OLDEST ONES AND THE BLOCK OF NINETIES THAT WE STILL HAVE, AND THEN PRIORITIZE THOSE BASED ON YOUR FOUR CRITERIA AND ACHIEVABILITY.

SO WE HAVE SOME RESULTS INSTEAD OF JUST A LOT OF, UH, SITUATIONS LIKE KENWORTH, RIGHT? IF YOU CAN GET THREE FOR THE PRICE OF ONE, START WITH THE THREE AND, AND GET 'EM DONE, UM, FOR EQUITY, UM, SOMETHING THAT WE DID WITH THE RIVER PARK WAS, UH, THERE ARE SO MANY COMMUNITIES THAT, UH, WILL USE PARKS AND PLAYGROUNDS, UH, THAT PROBABLY THEY WEREN'T BEING REACHED.

THEY AREN'T BEING REACHED.

AND SO IT'S VERY EASY TO FIND OUT THOSE COMMUNITIES NEEDS BECAUSE THERE ARE ORGANIZATIONS THAT SERVE ALL OF THESE COMMUNITIES.

WHEN I TALK TO THE, UH, SENIOR ADVISORY COMMITTEE ABOUT THIS, THEY HAVE A WHOLE LIST OF SPECS FOR THE TYPE OF BENCHES, SIDEWALKS, EVERYTHING FOR, UH, ELDER ACCESS.

UM, SO I BELIEVE A LOT OF THESE COMMUNITY SUB-COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION NEEDED FOR THEIR NEEDS FOR A PLAYGROUND, FOR THEIR CONSTITUENTS.

AND THAT'S THE EASIEST WAY, IS JUST TO GO TO THEM AND START THERE, AND THEY CAN ALSO DIRECT YOU SOMEWHERE ELSE TO, TO THEIR ACTUAL COMMUNITY TO TALK ABOUT IT.

UM, UH, AND WE, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS, UH, WHAT CAN YOU DO FOR EL ELDERS? I MEAN, WE ALREADY HAD A WHOLE PRESENTATION HERE ON HOW TO DO THE, THE PLAYGROUNDS THAT HAVE THE, UH, WORKOUT EQUIPMENT IN THEM.

UM, SOMETHING ELSE FOR PRIORITIZING, I'D SAY FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES.

I KNOW, UH, DID THE CHESS TABLES COME FROM A GRANT FOR, FROM THE, UH, THAT THE SENIOR ADVISORY COMMITTEE GOT? 'CAUSE THEY WERE WORKING ON A-A-A-R-P GRANT, I THINK FOR CHESS TABLES.

SO, UM, PRIOR, I WOULD START WITH LOOKING AT WHERE THERE'S FUNDING OPPORTUNITY AND ALSO WHERE THERE'S DONATION OPPORTUNITY.

I MEAN, THERE'S A TON OF BENCHES AROUND

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SCHOENBERGER THAT HAVE PEOPLE'S NAMES ON THEM.

SO, UH, IF IF THERE'S PARKS WHERE PEOPLE ARE WILLING AND ORGANIZATIONS ARE WILLING TO DONATE MONEY OR GET GRANTS FOR IT, THAT'S ALSO A GREAT PLACE TO, TO START, I BELIEVE.

UM, I THINK THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

I'M GONNA GO BACK TO, UH, COMMISSIONER SIMMONS.

THANK YOU.

I JUST WANTED TO PIGGYBACK OFF ONE OF DI CARLY'S STATEMENTS.

UM, SO I LIVED IN BERKELEY TILL I WAS FIVE, AND CORDIS PARK HAS PROBABLY BEEN THE SAME SINCE, I DON'T KNOW, THE FIFTIES, SEVENTIES.

AND IT'S ALL WOOD.

IT'S ALL METAL.

IT'S AN AMAZING PARK FOR ALL AGES.

AND SO I LIKE THE IDEA OF GOING BACK TO THAT, UM, TYPE OF PLAYGROUND THAT'S NOT LIKE MELTING IN THE SUN AND ALL THAT.

UM, THAT, YEAH, THAT'S IT.

YEAH, I'D SAY FOR NOSTALGIA SAKE, WE GO BACK TO THE OLD METAL SLIDES THAT YOU GET THIRD DEGREE BURNS GONE SHOOTING DOWN LIKE A LUGE, , UH, COMMISSIONER GREENSPAN, DO YOU HAVE TO SAY, UM, UH, COMMISSIONER CHISHOLM'S COMMENT ABOUT HOW GLARINGLY OBVIOUS IT IS HAS SO MUCH TO DO WITH THE WAY THAT THE PLAYGROUNDS LOOK TOO.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED IN THE NINETIES THAT ADULTS THOUGHT CHILDREN NEEDED, LIKE IN YOUR FACE, BRIGHTLY COLORED, CRAZY, CRAZY ELEMENTS.

BUT JUST AS WE WENT THROUGH THAT SLIDESHOW AND THEN GOT TO, YOU KNOW, THE LAST FEW YEARS, IT'S KIND OF LIKE, OH, LIKE, THOSE ARE NICE.

THOSE ARE FEEL LIKE RELAXING.

SO I, I THINK THERE IS SOMETHING TO BE SAID FOR THE WAY THAT THESE PLAYGROUNDS LOOK TOO AND HOW THEY FIT INTO, UM, YOU KNOW, PETALUMA'S NEW GOALS OF SUSTAINABILITY AND, YOU KNOW, MEETING OUR CLIMATE CRISIS.

IT, IT KIND OF, WHEN YOU HAVE A BRIGHT RED ORANGE, CRAZY PLASTIC, PLASTIC, PLASTIC PLAYGROUND, IT'S, IT SEEMS A LITTLE BIT LIKE NOT, NOT A FIT ANYMORE.

SO, UM, I, I DEFINITELY THINK THAT THAT IS A PRIORITY TOO, IS YEAH.

THANK YOU.

UM, I THOUGHT YOU WOULD'VE SAID PARKS MASTER PLAN.

I'LL SAY IT.

PARKS, MASTER PLAN .

UM, UNISON.

NO, SORRY.

UM, OKAY.

UM, I WOULD SAY, UM, THESE ARE PROBABLY ECHOING EVERYBODY ELSE'S COMMENTS, BUT I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THEY WERE.

SO, UM, HAVING IDEAS ON USAGE.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, WHILE LEGHORNS WAS DONE IN 2005, IT'S USED SO HEAVILY THAT THE, IN PARTICULAR, THE SLIDE HAS BROKEN, THE BIG TOWER STRUCTURE HAS BROKEN.

SO USAGE, AND I MEAN, AGAIN, IF WE WERE GONNA LOOK AT THAT, LIKE, BECAUSE IT'S USED SO MUCH, MAYBE ONLY THAT PIECE IS REPLACED.

UM, UM, I FEEL THAT ANY PLAYGROUNDS THAT ARE NEAR JUNIOR HIGHS NEED OLDER PLAY AREAS.

UM, I DON'T KNOW WHY PEOPLE THINK , THAT KIDS STOP PLAYING WHEN THEY TURN 12.

THEY DON'T.

UM, AND THEY REALLY NEED THESE AREAS.

THEY NEED, THEY NEED PLACES TO GET OUT THEIR ENERGY, THEY NEED PLACES TO CONGREGATE.

WE HAVE NOTHING, NOTHING FOR TEENS TO DO UNLESS YOU ARE GONNA PAY MONEY.

SO UNLESS YOU HAVE MONEY FOR A CLUB SPORT OR EVEN, YOU KNOW, PYSL OR WHATEVER IT IS, AND THAT'S A SEASON THING, OUR TEENS HAVE NOTHING TO DO.

I CANNOT, THAT'LL BE LIKE THE THING THAT'S ON A PLAQUE WHEN I DIE.

PETALUMA TRIED TO GET THINGS FOR TEENAGERS TO DO, SO I CAN'T STRESS THAT ENOUGH.

SO ANYTHING THAT'S NEAR IN JUNIOR HIGH, IF WE CAN GET, UM, AND I GUESS THAT WOULD BE LEGHORNS, UH, BUT ALSO, UM, NOT TOO FAR AWAY IS EAGLE, BUT THAT'S KIND OF, IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO SONOMA MOUNTAIN.

IT'S NOT QUITE LIKE LEGHORNS.

I THINK IT'S, UM, THE TRAFFIC BECAUSE OF THE STORES, UM, YOU KNOW, GOING BACK AGAIN TO, UM, UM, KENNELWORTH MAN, THAT'S THE ONLY PARK IN MIDTOWN.

AND SO IT, IT'S HARD TO NOT CONSIDER IT JUST BECAUSE IT'S THE MAIN PARK IN MIDTOWN.

UM, SO ANYHOW, THAT'S THAT, UM, THE SENIOR ACTIVE ZONE ASPECT, UM, I THINK THAT'S JUST USABLE FOR EVERYBODY.

AND I THINK THAT THERE ARE ALSO WAYS TO GET, UM, KIDS OF ANY SIZE CAN JUMP UP ONTO BOXES.

ADULTS CAN USE 'EM FOR STEP-UPS.

SENIORS CAN USE 'EM FOR STEP-UPS, YOU KNOW, LIKE, AGAIN, KIND OF HOW DO YOU LOOK AT THOSE THINGS, UM, IN, IN THAT WAY AND BE ABLE TO PUT THEM CLOSE TO ONE ANOTHER.

UM, I THINK THE BIKE ROUTES THAT COMMISSIONER GREENSPAN HAD SAID IS A REALLY, REALLY GREAT IDEA.

UM, SO MANY OF, OF THE YOUNG FAMILIES THAT WE

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DO HAVE, A LOT OF THEM ARE BIKING PLACES.

UM, E-BIKES, MAN, I SEE PEOPLE WITH TWO AND THREE KIDS ON 'EM.

UM, THE POPULATION DENSITY, I THINK IS A, IS ANOTHER GREAT POINT.

UM, AND THEN ALSO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

I'M NOT SURE IF THAT WAS COMMISSIONER CHISHOLM, BUT, BUT SENDING IN, IN PARTICULAR WHEN THIS IS DONE, UM, AND MAYBE THE, THE SIX PARKS ARE CHOSEN, DEFINITELY GOING AT LEAST AT THE VERY BARE MINIMUM TO THE SENIOR ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO GET SOME INPUT ON THEM.

I MEAN, PEOPLE COME HERE AND PRESENT TO US, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS GO AND PRESENT TO OTHER PLACES AS WELL, BUT I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER GREAT PIECE BECAUSE, UM, I'M GUESSING THEY HAVE A LOT OF INPUT ABOUT HOW THEY WOULD WANT TO USE AREAS, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE CAREGIVERS, UM, OR JUST PEOPLE WALKING AROUND.

UM, THAT'S IT.

MARKS MASTER PLAN.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? NO.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO THAT CLOSES OUT.

UM, ITEM NUMBER THREE, WE WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO COMMITTEE

[COMMITTEE COMMENT]

COMMENT.

AND I WILL START, OR COMMISSIONER COMMENT.

SORRY.

I WILL START ON MY LEFT WITH MESSING WITH YOU.

IT'S BECAUSE I'M RIGHT HANDED.

THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW.

OKAY.

UH, COMMISSIONER CHISHOLM? UH, SURE.

BECAUSE WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THIS BEFORE MEETING STARTED.

FUN LITTLE, UM, THING.

I'M WORKING ON A PROJECT WITH, UH, PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE AND PARKS AND REC STARTING THIS YEAR.

UM, THE CALIFORNIA BLACKSMITH ASSOCIATION WILL HAVE A BOOTH AT THE FAIR EVERY YEAR AND EVERY YEAR WE'LL FORGE A DIFFERENT PROJECT FOR THE FAIRGROUNDS.

SO THIS YEAR WILL BE A NEW SIDE GATE FOR THE PAY RAN ENTRANCE.

UH, AND EVERY YEAR WE'LL DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, HAND FORGED, AND THE CITY, THE PUBLIC CAN COME AND SEE THE DESIGN AND WATCH US BUILD IT.

VERY COOL.

UM, COUNCILMAN DECAR? NO COMMENT TONIGHT.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER ELLI.

UH, I JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW ABOUT THE TREE FEST THAT'S COMING UP ON APRIL 26TH, UH, SPONSORED BY OUR TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

IT'S GONNA BE AT CITY HALL AT 11 O'CLOCK ON 26TH.

THERE'S GONNA BE FOOD, TRUCK, UH, MUSIC, UH, A LITTLE MULCHING PROJECT FOR PEOPLE TO WORK ON A MURAL, KIDS TO PAINT, UM, THE TREE WALKING AROUND.

UM, RANDOM TREE , AS LONG AS THEY BRING THE COSTUME TO ME.

UM, AND THEN WE'RE ALSO WORKING ON UPDATED STREET TREE LISTS.

IT'S JUST BEEN, UH, WE JUST FINALIZE THAT.

SO WE'RE GONNA TRY TO GET THAT UP UPLOADED SO THAT IT'S ACCESSIBLE FOR PEOPLE, ANY RESIDENTS IN THE CITY THAT WANT INFORMATION ABOUT THE BEST KIND OF STREET TREES TO PLANT IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE.

UH, WORKING ON, UM, UH, STARTING WORKING WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON REGULATION OR MORE, UM, SORT OF GUIDELINES FOR DEVELOPERS AND THE NEW DEVELOPMENTS IN TERMS OF LANDSCAPING AND TREES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

THAT'S IT.

OH, THERE WE GO.

THANK YOU.

UH, COMMISSIONER KELLY.

UM, I'M SURE DREW'S GONNA TALK ABOUT THIS, OR HE SENT IT TO US IN THE EMAIL, BUT I JUST WANNA TAKE A MOMENT TO PUBLICLY RECOGNIZE SYDNEY CHONG.

I MEAN, SHE IS JUST INCREDIBLE.

SHE IS AMAZING AT WHAT SHE DOES.

SHE'S INCREDIBLE AT HOW SHE EXPLAINS AND, UM, GIVES DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND UNDERSTANDS PROCESS, AND UNDERSTANDS OUR NEEDS AS A COMMISSION.

UM, AND SHE'S A BIG LOSS FOR THE CITY, AND I KNOW DREW'S PROBABLY ALREADY FEELING THAT .

UM, BUT, UH, THANK YOU, CINDY, FOR EVERYTHING THAT, THAT YOU DID FOR THIS CITY, BECAUSE YOU REALLY MADE AN IMPACT HERE.

UM, ALSO WANNA PUBLICLY SAY THAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT YOU, DREW.

UM, I, I THINK YOU HAVE TOO MUCH ON YOUR PLATE.

AND, UM, I THINK ADDING THE FAIRGROUNDS AND THEN CINDY BEING GONE, UM, AND, AND EVERY, AND AQUATICS AND EVERYTHING UNDER YOUR PURVIEW IS A LOT.

AND I JUST WANNA RECOGNIZE THAT IT'S A LOT ON YOUR PLATE.

SO THANK YOU.

BUT ALSO YOU NEED MORE HELP.

UM, , UH, THE MUSEUM, UM, THE CHINATOWN EXHIBIT O OPENS ON, UH, TOMORROW FIVE TO SEVEN.

I HOPE YOU ALL CAN EITHER COME BY THEN OR COME BY ANOTHER TIME.

IT'S GONNA BE REALLY INCREDIBLE.

IT'S REALLY AMAZING THE ARTIFACTS THAT THEY FOUND AND THAT THEY'RE PUTTING UP.

AND THEN THERE'S ALL THESE ACTIVITIES, ALL THESE EVENTS, LIKE THERE'S GONNA BE A CALLIGRAPHY WORKSHOP.

UM, THIS ONE, UH, WHAT YOUR HISTORY TEACHER NEVER TOLD YOU LECTURE.

THAT SOUNDS INCREDIBLE.

UM, ASIAN AMERICAN GENEALOGY WORKSHOP.

SO CHECK OUT THE EVENTS ON THE, UM, MUSEUM WEBSITE, BUT LOTS OF THINGS TO SEE.

AND HOPEFULLY, UM, HOPEFULLY KIDS ATTEND THIS.

I, I REALLY THINK THE YOUNG PEOPLE OF PETALUMA NEED TO HEAR ABOUT THE HISTORIC CHINATOWN

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THAT WAS HERE.

UM, BUTTER AND EGGS, UH, BUTTER AND EGG DAYS, UH, ON SATURDAY.

UM, THERE IS MEMBER SEATING AT THE MUSEUM.

LAST YEAR WE SOLD, I THINK, I DON'T KNOW, I WANNA SAY LIKE 20 MEMBERSHIPS ON THE SPOT, JUST SO PEOPLE COULD SIT ON THE LAWN.

SPREAD THE WORD.

UH, IF YOU BECOME A MEMBER, YOU CAN SIT ON THE LAWN AND YOU GET PRIORITY SEATING.

SO, UH, DO THAT.

UM, IT'S A GREAT REASON TO JOIN.

AND THEN JUST ALSO, WHILE I'M TALKING ABOUT MEMBERSHIP, DID YOU KNOW THAT IF YOU BUY A CERTAIN LEVEL OF MEMBERSHIP, THEN LIKE, YOU CAN GO TO THE LEGION OF HONOR OR THE DE YOUNG FOR FREE.

AND WHILE IT DOESN'T COST MONEY TO COME TO OUR MUSEUM, IT DOES COST MONEY TO GO TO THAT MUSEUM.

AND WOULDN'T YOU RATHER GIVE US THE MONEY HERE LOCALLY? UM, AND THEN YOU GET TO GO TO ALL THESE INCREDIBLE MUSEUMS. BERKELEY ART MUSEUM IS ONE OF 'EM.

I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S A HUGE NUMBER OF MUSEUMS THAT IS RECIPROCAL.

SO CHECK THAT OUT.

AND DOWNTOWN WALKING TOURS ARE STARTING AGAIN IN MAY, AND THOSE ARE FUN.

SO THAT'S ALL I GOT.

THANK YOU.

UH, COMMISSIONER SIMMONS.

YEAH, I DON'T THINK I HAVE MUCH.

PARKS.

LOOK GOOD.

UM, YEAH, THANKS COMMISSIONER GREENSPAN.

THANK YOU.

UM, LAST WEEK THERE WAS A JOINT PLANNING AND PAC, UM, MEETING.

AND IT, WHILE IT WAS IN A VERY LONG, LONG MEETING, , IT WAS INCREDIBLY PRODUCTIVE.

UM, THERE WAS A STUDY SESSION ON THE DRAFT ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN, AND IT'S INCREDIBLE.

I'M SO EXCITED FOR IT.

UM, SO MANY DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS AND STAKEHOLDERS AND, UM, VERY SMART PEOPLE HAVE BEEN INVOLVED AND, UM, MADE SOME REALLY GREAT PROGRESS WITH HOW DO WE, UM, MAKE PETALUMA BETTER FOR BIKES AND PEDESTRIANS AND ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION.

SO, I'M SO EXCITED TO SEE, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA TAKE A WHILE TO ROLL OUT.

AND THIS WAS JUST THE DRAFT.

SO, UH, I'M SURE IT WILL BE AT COUNCIL BEFORE LONG, BUT IT'S, UM, UP ON PLANNING.

I, I SHOULD HAVE, UM, GRABBED THE LINK SO THAT I COULD TELL YOU ABOUT IT, BUT THERE'S GONNA BE A PERIOD FOR COMMUNITY FEEDBACK.

SO I THINK THAT PERIOD IS NOW.

AND IF YOU HAVE FEEDBACK ABOUT WHICH ROADS YOU'D LIKE TO SEE, UM, PROTECTED BIKE LANES ON, UM, WHICH ROADS YOU'D LIKE TO SEE GREENWAYS, DEFINITELY GIVE YOUR FEEDBACK.

'CAUSE NOW IS THE TIME AND IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT AND I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU, UM, COMMENTS FROM ME.

UM, MY PERKS DEFINITELY LOOK GOOD, ALTHOUGH ROCKY, I HAVEN'T BEEN THERE IN, UH, I THINK IT'S BEEN TWO WEEKS, BUT DID IT GET, HAS IT GOTTEN MOWED YET? I'VE GOT AN UPDATE ON ROCKY.

UM, THE SHORT ANSWER IS YES, AND I'LL, I'LL PUT A CLIFF HANGER THERE.

OKAY.

I'LL BE WAITING WITH BATHED BREATH RIGHT HERE? YES.

AND JUST, YEP, TWO MINUTES AWAY.

UM, OH, AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA GIMME AN UPDATE ON SWIM, SO, OKAY.

WELL THEN I'M DONE WITH MY COMMENTS.

LET'S MOVE RIGHT OVER

[STAFF COMMENT]

INTO STAFF COMMENTS.

DREW AND KAT, THANK YOU CHAIR.

UM, APPRECIATE THE DISCUSSION TONIGHT.

UH, I'M GONNA INTRODUCE KAT, UH, WHO'S GONNA GO THROUGH THE JUMP OFF THE DEEP END OF THE POOL, UH, INTO, UH, THE POOL PLASTERING UPDATE.

BUT I WANTED TO RECOGNIZE, APPRECIATE, UH, COMMISSIONER, UM, KELLY'S COMMENTS AND WORRY ABOUT MY MENTAL HEALTH AND PHYSICAL HEALTH.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

THAT'S A FIRST, A FIRST FOR ME UP HERE.

SO THANK YOU.

UH, I DO HAVE SOME COMMENTS PREPARED ABOUT CINDY THANKING HER FOR HER FIVE PLUS YEARS OF SERVICE AND NOT ALL SERVICE, I FEEL LIKE HAS CREATED EQUAL.

AND JUST LIKE THE LAST FIVE YEARS IN PARTICULAR, MANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN, UH, GRAPPLING SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE FACED.

SOME, SOME CREATIVE SOLUTIONS.

AND CINDY'S KIND OF BEEN THERE THROUGH A, A LOT OF THOSE STATED EMERGENCIES.

SOME ARE EMERGENCIES WITHIN EMERGENCIES AND JUST HAS HANDLED IT WITH KIND OF POISON GRACE THE WHOLE WHOLE WAY THROUGH.

SO SHE'S WISH SHE COULD BE HERE.

UM, SHE'S ALREADY STARTED AND IT WAS A REAL QUICK TURNAROUND.

UM, BUT, UH, SHE'LL BE OVER THE HILL IN NOVATO.

UM, ALSO MANAGING LANDSCAPES TO ANOTHER DEGREE, BUT WE'RE EXCITED, SAD, ALL THOSE THINGS FOR HER.

UM, BUT AGAIN, I WANNA END WITH SOME POSITIVE NOTES TOO, BECAUSE

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ON MONDAY WE HAVE, UH, JOINED BY THREE NEW MEMBERS OF OUR TEAM, UM, TO OUR NEW POSITIONS.

ONE IS OUR NEW RECREATION SUPERVISOR, TARA DELEY.

ONE IS A NEW RECREATION COORDINATOR THAT'S GONNA BE OVERSEEING SPECIAL EVENTS AT THE FAIRGROUNDS.

YAY.

UM, AND THEN A THIRD IS, UM, OUR RECREATION SUPERVISOR, UM, VACANCY, WHICH WAS, UH, FORMALLY BY RACHEL BEER, UH, AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER.

SO THESE ARE ONE POSITION THAT HAS BEEN KIND OF OUTSTANDING SINCE DECEMBER.

SO, BUT TWO ARE JUST LIKE A, A SHOT IN THE ARM.

SO NEW STAFF, NEW ENTHUSIASM, UH, KAT, MYSELF, NICOLE, RYAN, UM, SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH THEM THIS WEEK AND YOU'LL MEET 'EM ALL.

UM, PROBABLY NEXT MONTH WE'LL BRING 'EM IN, LIKE IN A COHORT AND, UM, BE EXCITED FOR Y'ALL TO MEET THEM AND WELCOME THEM TO THE TEAM.

BUT YES, NEXT TIME MAYBE I'LL HAVE KAT SIT HERE SO I DON'T HAVE TO LOOK AT THE EMPTY PENALTY BOX.

UH, KAT BRYER, DEPUTY DIRECTOR PARKS AND REC, UH, FOR OUR AQUATICS UPDATE.

THANK YOU, DREW.

DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION.

THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR BEING HERE.

I AM VERY EXCITED TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON AQUATICS VERY SOON.

AWESOME.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, RYAN.

I THINK RYAN IS DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB.

FIRST TIME CLERKING TONIGHT.

RYAN CAMPBELL, ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT.

UH, THANK YOU.

THE POOL.

IT'S COMING.

THERE'S WORK.

THERE'S A REALLY BIG HOLE THAT STACEY SAW.

YOU'LL SEE A PICTURE OF IT.

UM, NOT ON THIS SLIDE.

THIS WAS ACTUALLY TAKEN ABOUT A MONTH AGO.

I LOVED IT 'CAUSE THERE WAS A LITTLE LOADER GUY PROFESSIONAL TERM IN THE POOL, WHICH IS REALLY COOL.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

THANK YOU.

YOU CAN SEE THIS IS THE BIG HOLE PHOTO TAKEN YESTERDAY AND THEN FROM TWO DIFFERENT ANGLES.

THIS IS ON THE DEEP END.

THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT THE RUSTY PIPE AREA THAT WE FOUND IN THE MAIN DRAIN AREA HAD SOME NEEDS.

WE HAVE FIXED THOSE NEEDS.

THIS BIG HOLE COULD HAVE BECOME A REALLY GIGANTIC HOLE.

THIS IS REALLY NOT AS BAD AS IT COULD HAVE BEEN.

UM, THEY ARE ACTIVELY FIXING IT.

THERE IS SOME RUST AND, UM, IT WAS RIGHT WHERE THE VALVE WORK WAS AND WE WEREN'T PLANNING ON THIS HOLE ORIGINALLY.

BUT HAVING DUG UP THIS PART OF THE POOL, WE WERE ABLE TO REPLACE SOME WATER VALVES THAT WE HADN'T ANTICIPATED BEING ABLE TO DO SO, WHICH FOR US, ON THE BACK END OF EVERYTHING, WE ARE GONNA BE ABLE TO CLOSE OFF THE SURGE PIT IF WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO DO WORK IN THE FUTURE.

ON THE SURGE PIT, WHICH IS WHERE YOU DO CLEANING AND FILTRATION OF THE POOL, UM, THE POOL IS SO OLD THAT IF WE NEEDED TO DO SURGE PIT WORK, WE REALLY HAD TO DRAIN THE WHOLE POOL, WHICH IS NOT IDEAL.

SO TURNING LEMONS INTO SOME REALLY DELICIOUS LEMONADE WITH THE WORK.

UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

THIS WAS THE WAITING POOL ON THE LEFT ABOUT A MONTH AGO, JUST TO SHOW SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL WORK THAT WAS HAPPENING.

AND THAT'S OUR SURGE PIT ON THE RIGHT.

MANY OF YOU HAVE HEARD ME TALK ABOUT THE RUSTY PLATFORM AND PIPE.

YOU CAN SEE THE STAIRWELL THERE IS ACTUALLY FULLY RUSTED THROUGH IN A COUPLE UM, STEPS.

AND THAT RUST DROPS RIGHT INTO THE SURGE PIT AREA, WHICH THEN GETS PUSHED RIGHT BACK INTO THE POOL, WHICH WE ARE TRYING TO NOT HAVE THE POOL WATER FULL OF TOTAL DISSOLVED SOLIDS AND ISSUES THAT EAT AWAY AT THE PLASTER.

SO WE ARE FIXING ALL OF THAT, WHICH IS EXCELLENT NEWS.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

AND IN GOOD NEWS, I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THEM.

ARE THESE NEW STEPS, THE NEW WE ARE TURNING LEMONS INTO EXTRA, EXTRA SPARKLY LEMONADE WITH SOME OF THE CODE ENFORCEMENT UPGRADES THAT WE HAVE NEEDED TO DO WITH THE POOL.

'CAUSE THE POOL WAS SO OLD IN SO MANY WAYS THAT WE, UM, DIDN'T HAVE SOME SAFETY ITEMS. ONE OF THE SAFETY ITEMS WE NOW HAVE ARE TWO STEPS INTO THE WAITING POOL, WHICH ARE GONNA PROVIDE AREAS WHERE LITTLE TODDLERS DO NOT HAVE TO ACTUALLY BE TWO FEET TALL TO STAND IN THE WAITING POOL.

WE DO NOT HAVE A BEACH FRONT ENTRY OR SPLASH PAD AREA HERE IN PETALUMA.

SO FOR THOSE FAMILIES WITH THOSE LITTLE TYKES, IT'S A BIT, IT'S A BIT HARD.

THERE'S NOT A, IT'S NOT A PERFECT, UM, SPOT OR DEPTH FOR THE POOL.

THIS WILL ALSO PROVIDE US THE ABILITY TO TEACH SOME MORE OF THOSE MOMMY AND ME AND REALLY BEGINNER LEVEL SWIM LESSONS, INTRODUCTION TO WATER SAFETY WHERE THE KIDS CAN SIT ON THE STEPS AND BE ABLE TO PUSH OFF THE STEPS INTO THEIR PARENTS' ARMS OR OTHER INSTRUCTORS.

SO REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

UM, IN ADDITION TO THE TEACHING POOL, WE'VE HAD SOME LED LIGHTING UPGRADES WITH UPDATED FIXTURES AND WIRING WALL STRAPS, WALL STEPS AND GRAB RAILS.

SO WE

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WILL HAVE TWO GRAB RAILS AS WELL TO BE ABLE TO GET INTO THE TEACHING POOL, WHICH DID NOT EXIST BEFOREHAND.

SO REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THOSE UPGRADES.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SORRY IT'S A LOT OF TEXT, BUT IN A VERY HIGH LEVEL, WE'VE ACHIEVED MANY MILESTONES.

UM, IT'S MAIN GRAIN, MAIN DRAIN UPGRADES THAT WE HADN'T ANTICIPATED INCLUDED THE DECK DEMO PLUMBING WORK.

WE'VE RETILED AND REDONE ALL THE LACE RACING LINES, INCLUDING ALL THE DEPTH MARKERS.

THE LED LIGHTING HAS BEEN INSTALLED WITH NEW FIXTURES, WIRING AND LIGHT RINGS.

THIS ONE IS ESPECIALLY EXCITING TO ME AT THE MOMENT.

I'M KNOCKING ON ALL THE WOOD.

EVERYONE ELSE, PLEASE KNOCK ON THE WOOD.

ALL OF THE INTERIOR WATER LIGHTS SHOULD BE WORKING WHEN THE POOL OPENS, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM, WHICH WE DIDN'T THINK WAS ACTUALLY GONNA BE ABLE TO HAPPEN.

VERY EXCITING.

FOR NIGHTTIME AND EARLY MORNING SWIM, WE ARE UPGRADING OUR WALL STEPS, GRAB RAILS, SOME UM, SAFETY EQUIPMENT AROUND THE, SOME RETURN HEADS REPLACED.

DIFFERENT VALVES, VARIOUS LEAKS HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED, BUT WE FIXED MOST OF THEM.

SO WE ARE, I DON'T WANNA JINX IT, WE'RE OVER THIS HUMP, BUT WE DO STILL HAVE A FEW SIGNIFICANT MILESTONES THAT THE MAIN DRAIN TIE IN.

THAT WAS THAT BIG HOLE YOU SAW.

WE GOTTA POUR BACK THE DECK, POUR BACK THE POOL SHELL.

WHEN WE OPENED THAT BIG HOLE, IT WAS AMAZING 'CAUSE THE BIG HOLE DID NOT BECOME A SINK HOLE OR IT DIDN'T BECOME LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU OPEN A LITTLE DRY ROT AND THEN THERE'S MORE DRY ROT AND THERE'S MORE DRY ROT.

THAT CAN ACTUALLY VERY QUICKLY HAPPEN ON A POOL DECK WITH THE WAY THE CONCRETE IS ALL POURED WITH THE PLASTER PACK.

THAT DID NOT HAPPEN, WHICH IS EXCELLENT.

UH, WE STILL DO HAVE TO RE REPLACE ALL THAT BACK IN, DO THE VALVES, THE FLOAT IN THE MAIN, AS WELL AS UM, WE NEED TO GET SOME FENCING SLOTS FOR PRIVACY.

NEW CODE REQUIRES US TO HAVE THE POOL WITH PRIVACY, UM, SLATS OR SHADE CLOTH ITEM BEFORE WE CAN ACTUALLY PUT WATER INTO THE POOL.

UM, WE CAN'T PUT THE SHADE CLOTH OR THE SLATS UNTIL UH, SOME OF THE BIG EQUIPMENT IS OUTTA THE WAY 'CAUSE THAT'S THE FENCING THAT THEY NEED TO GO THROUGH.

SO JUST A FEW THINGS NEED TO ALIGN, BUT IT IS ALL ALIGNING AT THE MOMENT.

ANOTHER REALLY EXCITING ITEM IS THE ELECTRICAL JUNCTION BOX THAT IS IN BETWEEN THE BIG POOL AND THE SMALL POOL WAS DEAD, DIDN'T WORK.

IT IS SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE YOU IDEALLY PLUG IN YOUR LITTLE VACUUM TO CLEAN THE POOL ON A REGULAR BASIS.

SO THE POOL IS REALLY SPARKLY AND AWESOME WHEN YOU SWIM IN IT.

THAT HAS BEEN FIXED AS WELL.

SO OPERATIONALLY THAT IS A HUGE LIFT ON OUR SIDE IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE REGULAR MAINTENANCE IN THE POOL TO KEEP THE WATER NICE AND CLEAN.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

A FEW OTHER ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS.

THESE ARE JUST SOME ITEMS ON THE TOP THAT DO STILL NEED TO BE DONE ON THE WORK.

UM, I ALSO THOUGHT IT WAS SIGNIFICANT TO NOTE.

ONCE THE WORK IS ALL DONE IN THE REPLASTERING, IT WILL TAKE APPROXIMATELY FOUR TO FIVE DAYS TO FILL THE POOL WITH WATER.

IT'S A VERY LARGE POOL.

AND THEN WE NEED TO BALANCE THE CHEMICALS.

SO THE POOL IS GONNA SIT THERE LOOKING LIKE IT'S COMPLETELY DONE FOR APPROXIMATELY THREE WEEKS, RIGHT IN THE END OF MAY, IT'S NOT GONNA BE READY TO OPEN DURING THIS TIMEFRAME.

THE UH, POOL CONTRACT INDIVIDUAL WILL BE COMING OUT ON A, I FORGET IF IT SAID LIKE THREE HOURS OR SOMETHING TO TEST THE CHEMICALS FOR PH CHLORINE.

THEY'LL BE WORKING WITH OUR PARKS MAINTENANCE CREW TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE WATER IS BALANCING COMPLETELY AND SAFELY BEFORE WE'RE ABLE TO GET INTO IT.

THIS IS GONNA REACT DIFFERENTLY WITHIN THE BODIES OF WATER.

LARGER BODIES OF WATER CHANGE DIFFERENTLY WITH CHEMICALS VERSUS SMALLER BODIES OF WATER.

UM, AND THIS IS ALL ASSUMING THAT THE PUMPS AND THE BOILERS TURN ON WHEN WE FLIP THE SWITCH.

SO ALSO KNOCK ON ALL THAT WOOD.

WE'VE BEEN GOING BY AND RUBBING THEM AND SAYING HELLO TO THEM FREQUENTLY, BUT UNTIL WE ACTUALLY FLIP THE SWITCH, WE WON'T KNOW.

SO NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

WE ARE STILL ANTICIPATING WITH ASTERISK THE OPENING DATE OF MEMORIAL WEEKEND.

WE'VE WORKED THROUGH THE AMENDED AGREEMENT WITH FOREVER'S AQUATICS THAT THEY WILL SUPPORT THE SWIM CENTER OPERATIONS THROUGH LABOR DAY AT THE LARGE SWIM CENTER.

THEY WILL SUPPORT KAVANAUGH POOL THROUGH THE END OF 2025.

WE HAVE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION ACTIVELY WITH AC SWIM, SALTY KRAKEN, SOME OF THE OTHER SWIM GROUPS TO LET 'EM KNOW, COME ON SITE, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THE STORAGE AREAS OF WORKING WITH THAT ICY SWIM ON THOSE.

SO STUFF IS IN THE WORKS BEHIND THE SCENES.

THE MOST EXCITING PART TO ME ON BEHIND THE SCENES IS THAT TARA AND KECHI HAVE STARTED AT THE POOL.

YOU'LL SEE THEM OUT THERE.

TARA AND I WALKED THROUGH THE POOL YESTERDAY FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HER EYES LIT UP.

SHE CAN'T WAIT TO GET OUT THERE.

UM, KEISHA'S BEEN WORKING WITH US ON THE BACKEND FOR ABOUT FOUR MONTHS.

SHE'S THE ONE WHO WILL BE BUILDING OUT ALL THE ADMINISTRATIVE PARTS.

IF YOU SIGN UP FOR SWIM LESSONS, WANT A BIRTHDAY PARTY, GENERAL WEBSITE INFORMATION, THAT'S GONNA BE KIND OF HER AREA OF EXPERTISE AND WORKING IN THE FRONT.

SO WE ARE ARE STARTING TO BUILD OUT SOME OF THE PROPOSED PROGRAMMING AND BUSINESS PLANS.

NOTHING IS FINAL YET.

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THE COMMISSION HERE WILL GET INFORMATION AS IT COMES BUILT OUT.

BUT WE NOW HAVE THE PEOPLE ON BOARD WHO ARE SUPER EXCITED TO KIND OF DIG IN AND, UM, LEARN MORE ABOUT AQUATICS HERE IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO YOU'LL SEE US OUT THERE.

I THINK I HAVE ONE MORE SLIDE.

I, OH, I DO HAVE A COUPLE MORE SIDES.

SO, JUST AS I WANTED TO END ON A HIGH NOTE, THE PETALUMA ADULT SWIM, IT'S STILL HAPPENING.

THEY'RE HAVING A GOOD TIME.

IT'S OUT THERE.

IT'S IN THE MORNINGS.

THERE'S STILL ONLY 1 75 FOR UNLIMITED SWIMS THROUGH THE END OF MAY, WHICH IS NOT A BAD DROP IN PRICE IF YOU ADD IT ALL TOGETHER.

SO COULDN'T HELP BUT PLUG THEM IN.

AND I WAS GONNA SHARE DREW ON THE YES.

SO ON THIS, ON THE PICKLEBALL, THANK YOU.

UM, THE PETALUMA FAIRGROUNDS PICKLEBALL COURTS AT THE BIANCHI BARN WERE INSTALLED OFFICIALLY YESTERDAY.

UH, THESE ARE THE SPORTS COURTS TILES.

WE HAVE A PILOT PROGRAM GOING THROUGH THE END OF MAY TO TEST OUT THE TILES, SEE HOW IT'S GOING, ARE THERE ANY IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE NEED TO DO THAT ARE REASONABLE AND NOT A LARGE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENT.

UH, ONE, ONE MORE.

I THINK THE LAST SLIDE JUST TO SEE IT HAD DUSK 'CAUSE IT'S DAWNED DUSK AND IT LOOKED KIND OF PRETTY WITH THE LIGHTS AND, UM, IT'S FREE, FREE PLAY GOING DOWN.

DRIVE DOWN THE CONCOURSE, YOU'LL SEE IT THERE ON THE LEFT.

AND WE'VE OPENED THE BARONS PARK RESTROOM, SO KIND OF DIAGONAL KITTY CORNER.

UM, THEY'RE OPEN FOR USE AS NEEDED.

THANK YOU.

CAN I ASK A QUESTION? UM, HOW WAS, UH, THE PICKLEBALL, HOW WAS THAT FUNDED? HOW'D WE PAY FOR THAT? WHERE THE FUNDS COME FROM? WELL, I'M JUST, I I DON'T KNOW, THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING .

I DUNNO, DID IT COME FROM FAIRGROUNDS MONEY? HAVE, LIKE WAS IT RAISED, RAISED BY THE PICKLEBALL ASSOCIATION WAS, YOU KNOW, YEAH, IT'S, IT'S A COMBINATION.

OKAY.

UM, SO WE HAD SOME SURFACE IMPROVEMENTS DONE WITH FUNDS THAT ARE EARMARKED FOR THE FAIRGROUNDS THAT WERE COLLECTING, UM, AND INVESTING BACK INTO THE PROPERTY.

SO UNDER THAT SURFACE, UM, WAS TWO LONG STRIPS OF, UM, ESSENTIALLY DIRT GRAVEL THAT CREATED KIND OF AN UNUSABLE SPACE ABSENT OF WHEN YOU HAVE LIVESTOCK IN THERE, RIGHT? SO, UH, ADDING SOME CONCRETE SURFACE TO HAVING THAT LEVEL SO THAT WE CAN HAVE KIND OF A MULTI-USE PLACE SPACE.

THAT WAS AN INVESTMENT THAT WAS, WAS ON THE CITY.

AND YOU HAVE, UM, A LOT OF THE PICKLEBALL AMENITIES THAT, UH, WE'RE WORKING WITH, UM, SOME LOCAL PICKLEBALL GROUPS TO HELP FUND.

AND THEN THE IDEA IS TO CREATE, UM, PROGRAM DROP IN PLAY JUST FOR THIS SHORT TIME PERIOD.

LEARN AS MUCH AS WE CAN, UH, SEE WHAT WORKS, SEE WHAT DOESN'T.

THEN WE PACK EVERYTHING UP, WE STORE IT ON SITE.

UH, WE HAVE A GREAT FARE AND THEN WE BRING BACK, UM, PROGRAMMING SCHEDULES, UH, IN THE FALL BASED ON WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE IN AND WHAT THE COMMUNITY, UM, WANTS TO SEE OUT THERE.

BUT THE IDEA, AGAIN, YOU'RE SEEING A VISUAL OF OF PICKLEBALL, BUT WE REALLY LOOK AT IT LIKE MULTI-USE, MAKE IT A USABLE PLAY SPACES.

ANYTHING UNDER A ROOF IS A HIGH DEMAND.

AND THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ONE OF THE STRUCTURES THAT IS IN, IS IN GOOD SHAPE.

AND ONE OF THE, YOU'LL NOTICE SEE THAT THE, UM, NETS ARE ON WHEELS SO THEY CAN BE WHEELED TO THE SIDE IF NEEDED TO BE USED FOR OTHER GROUPS.

WE CAN EITHER COVER THE SPORT COURT FLOORING.

WE DO HAVE A DANCE GROUP THAT USES UNDERNEATH THE BIANCHI BARN SOMETIMES.

SO THEY ARE ABLE TO DANCE ON TOP OF THE SPORT COURT TILES THAT WAS IN REASON TO BE ABLE TO HAVE MULTI-USE SPACE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

UM, AND THAT ALSO IS WHERE SOME OF THE CONCRETE WORK GOES TO IT, SO THAT WE CAN HAVE LARGER EVENTS ONSITE IF NEEDED.

THIS WILL BE A SIMILAR AGREEMENT WITH THE, UH, PETALUMA WRESTLING CLUB THAT USES THE EXPO HALL THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY GET TO USE IT FOR COMMUNITY PROGRAMMING WHERE WE DON'T CHARGE THEM TOO MUCH SO THAT THEY CAN KEEP THEIR FEES LOW TO HAVE KIDS ACCESS THEIR PROGRAMS. BUT IN RETURN WE, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE A LARGE EVENT THAT WE NEED, THEY WILL ROLL UP THEIR MAT AND VACATE FOR THAT WEEKEND.

WE COMMUNICATE WITH THEM VERY DIRECTLY.

SAME GOES FOR THE BIANCHI BARN, THE REALLY TRYING TO KEEP IT USABLE FOR AG ON THE WEEKEND IF NEEDED OR AS IT COMES UP.

SO YEAH.

UM, THOSE LIGHTS, ARE THEY, UM, I CAN'T REMEMBER 'CAUSE WE TOURED THAT AREA.

DO THEY HAVE METAL CAGES OVER TOP OF THEM AND IT'S NOT BECAUSE OF PICKLEBALL? I'M JUST CURIOUS.

DO THEY HAVEN'T THAT OKAY.

DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT.

YEAH, I I BELIEVE THEY DO.

ARE THEY PROTECTED? I CAN'T REMEMBER.

YEAH, I BELIEVE THEY DO.

THEY'RE NOT SPORTS LIGHTING.

SO THAT WAS THE OTHER THING.

YEAH, THAT'S THE, THE PARK IS GONNA REMAIN OPEN FROM DAWN TO DESK, RIGHT? YEAH.

SO THE INTENT IS NOT TO HAVE, UM, EVENING PROGRAM.

I KNOW THE LIGHTS ARE ON NOW, BUT YEAH, THE INTENT IS TO HAVE DAWN TO DUSK.

UM, BUT THAT COME BACK AND, AND LOOK AT HOW WE WANNA PROGRAM IN THE FALL WHEN DUSK BECOMES AN ISSUE.

YEAH, NO, THE REASON WHY, I MEAN NOW THAT THE, UM, THE CONCRETE HAS BEEN POURED, THE OTHER, THE OTHER GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN WANTING SPACE IS FOR VOLLEYBALL, BUT YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE SPORT LIGHTS OR A CAGE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BUT NOW THAT THAT CONCRETE IS POURED,

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UM, IT COULD BE SEASONED, RIGHT? SO ANYHOW.

COOL.

THAT'S AWESOME.

SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

NO, THAT, THAT'S A GREAT POINT.

AND, AND I'M LOOKING AT A ZOOMED IN PICTURE.

THEY ARE NOT CAGED IN LIGHTS.

UM, THE PICKLEBALL GROUP WOULD LOVE SPORTS LIGHTING, BUT THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE PUT ON THE TABLE IN THIS CURRENT PHASE.

WE WERE REALLY TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, AS MINIMAL INVESTMENT AS POSSIBLE, TRY AND USE THE SPACE AND SEE WHO USES IT IF THEY'RE INTERESTED.

SO, SO DO WE HAVE THE TEENS DO LIKE A BAKE SALE OR A CAR WASH SO THEY CAN RAISE MONEY TO GET BASKETBALL HOOPS IN THERE ? OR IS THIS LIKE A YEAH.

BASKET.

I MEAN, BASKETBALL'S ANOTHER, THERE'S GROUPS THAT HAVE PASSIVE INCOME AND GROUPS THAT DON'T.

SO WOULD THEY HAVE TO RAISE THEIR OWN MONEY TO GET BASKETBALL HOOPS IN THERE OR, I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

I MEAN, I THINK THAT THAT'S THE SAME THING WITH LIKE VOLLEYBALL TOO.

I MEAN IT JUST BRING, AGAIN, UH, I GUESS THAT'S WHY WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PARKS FAIRGROUNDS MASTER PLAN, RIGHT? I MEAN THAT'S LIKE, I'M, I'M BEING TONGUE IN CHEEK, BUT LIKE SERIOUS THAT, UM, THOSE, I WOULD THINK THAT THOSE THINGS WOULD COME INTO PLAY IN TERMS OF USAGE AND WHO USES THOSE THINGS.

YEAH, THERE'S ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE IDEA IS INCREMENTAL, RIGHT? TRY SOMETHING.

MM-HMM .

PUT A QUICK BUILD, SEE HOW IT'S USED, SEE HOW ELSE OTHER STAKEHOLDERS, UM, WANT USE IT.

BASKETBALL HOOPS PORTABLE ARE, ARE RELATIVELY INEXPENSIVE, BUT IF THIS IS A SURFACE THAT MAY WORK FOR 'EM, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S ALSO SOME OTHER AREAS TOO.

THE IDEA ARE THESE ARE MOVABLE.

SO YOU, IF YOU GET A NICE SURFACE ANYWHERE YOU CAN MOVE SPORTS COURTS AROUND, RIGHT? WE'VE GOT ANOTHER AREA IN FRONT OF THE STAGE GREEN LAWN, UM, WHERE LIVE OAK IS MOVING OUT NOW IN THE, UH, SUMMER MONTHS.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER PROGRAM AREA.

THERE'S THIS ODD CONCRETE SLAB NEAR BARON'S PARK.

IN BETWEEN THAT AND THE BARBECUE PITS, IT'S ANOTHER AREA THAT I THINK WOULD BE PERFECT FOR SOMETHING THAT'S MULTI-USE.

YOU KNOW, ROLLER BLADE OR YOU KNOW, SAL.

SO THERE'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LIMITED BY OUR CREATIVITY, BUT YOU JUST KIND OF HAVE TO START SOMETHING AND SEE IF YOU CAN MAKE IT MULTI-USE AND GET OTHER PEOPLE TO IT.

BUT HOOPS ARE RELATIVELY INEXPENSIVE AND BASKETBALL'S STILL ONE OF THE, YOU KNOW, MOST POPULAR DROP IN SPORTS FOR TEENS.

SO I RECOGNIZE THAT.

YEAH.

YEAH.

WE DO HAVE THE TWO BASKETBALL HOOPS IN THAT CONCRETE AREA IN FRONT OF THE STAGE THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR YOUTH DURING NON-SCHOOL HOURS.

SO, AND YOU, IT'S NOT AT FULL COURT, BUT THEY'RE AVAILABLE.

YEAH.

WELL, YEAH, EXCITING POSSIBILITIES.

I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT PICKLEBALL GOT THIS TOGETHER.

GOT IT PUT IN AND, AND ORGANIZED.

I MEAN, I THINK, I THINK IT ALSO JUST SHOWS THE PEOPLE WHO CAN GET ORGANIZED CAN GET THINGS DONE, YOU KNOW? UM, AND SO THAT'S, UM, I GUESS A MESSAGE TO EVERYBODY ELSE, RIGHT? IS TO GET ORGANIZED AND FOR THINGS THAT CAN HAVE PORTABLE FLOORING, LIKE, YOU KNOW, VOLLEYBALL CAN HAVE PORTABLE FLOORING AS WELL.

UM, BASKETBALL NOT SO MUCH, BUT UM, BUT WHEN THE SCHOOL MOVES OUT, THAT WORKS.

OKAY.

IS IT THE WEIRD FLOORING THAT'S LIKE IN CAVANAUGH? IS IT LIKE THAT CAVANAUGH'S ALSO A, ESSENTIALLY A PLASTIC SPORT COURT? UM, IT'S DIFFERENT.

THESE ARE MORE MESHY.

I ALWAYS SAY.

IT'S DIFFERENT.

YEAH.

IT'S MORE, MORE POROUS AND I DON'T THINK CAVANAUGH LAYS DOWN THE SAME.

BUT YEAH, THAT'S ESSENTIALLY THE IDEA.

YEAH.

YEAH.

.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU KAT.

I AM GONNA GO THROUGH A FEW MORE UPDATES.

YOU'VE COVERED MANY, SO I'LL WORK THROUGH THESE PRETTY QUICKLY.

BUT TREE FEST, EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

EXCITED TO HAVE THE TREE TIVAL BACK AND, UM, LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT COSTUME AGAIN THIS YEAR.

MARYANNE, UM, I WAS FORTUNATE TO JOIN THE TREE COMMITTEE TODAY, AND IT'S INTERESTING WHETHER MARYANNE IS UP FOR IT OR NOT.

EVERYONE LOOKS TO MARYANNE NOW, UM, FOR THAT, THAT COSTUME.

SO I DON'T THINK YOU CAN EVER LIVE THAT DOWN.

WHEREVER YOU GO, THEY'LL BRING YOU BACK.

THE TRANSHUMAN FESTIVAL, THE PARADE OF SHEEP WAS SUCH A SUCCESS ON SATURDAY.

THAT EVENT HAS REALLY GROWN.

I'M REALLY PROUD OF THE ORGANIZERS, UM, THE COMMUNITY THAT SHOWED UP.

UH, IT'S JUST THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF JUST KIND OF WEIRD, UM, BUT ALSO SO GREAT.

UH, THE PARADE, ROUTE TWO FROM THE FAIRGROUNDS DOWN JEFFERSON, THEN D STREET CROSS SMART TO STEAMERS WAS REALLY FANTASTIC.

I THINK IT WAS THE RIGHT SIZE.

UH, NONE OF THE SHEEP GOT LOST THIS YEAR OR DERAILED.

UH, THERE WAS A AMPLE AMOUNT OF VOLUNTEERS.

THE WEATHER WAS AWESOME.

AND THEN WHEN YOU END AT STEAMERS LANDING, UM, THE NONPROFITS AND THE COMMUNITY GROUPS, UM, ORGANIZERS, IT WAS A VERY GOOD, GOOD VIBE AND A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING INTO THE CITY AND EXPERIENCING IT.

UM, TALKED WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LEFT FEELING, FEELING REALLY GOOD.

SO THANK YOU FOR EVERYBODY WHO HAD A HAND IN THAT.

THERE'S

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A COUPLE MORE EVENTS I WANTED TO PUT ON YOUR RADAR.

UH, THE MURAL FOR THE TEEN CENTER WILL BEGIN ON THE 18TH.

UM, THIS IS, UH, CAME THROUGH THIS COMMISSION.

UM, THIS WAS KIND OF A, AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAD TO WORK WITH THE ARTISTS.

MJ LINDO AND JOSHUA LAWYER.

THEY'RE THE SAME ARTISTS THAT, UM, PUT TOGETHER THE SWIM CENTER MURAL.

SO DIFFERENT THEMES BUT WILL TIE IN TO SOME DEGREE.

REALLY EXCITED TO SEE THAT.

UH, BUT THAT WILL BE UP THERE PRETTY QUICKLY.

SO THE 18TH, THEY'LL, THEY'LL GET STARTED ON IT.

THERE'S A CELEBRATORY WALK-IN BIKE RIDE TO HONOR THE SMART PATHWAY CONNECTION, OPENING UP ON SUNDAY, APRIL 27TH.

THIS IS THE BIKE PEDESTRIAN PATHWAY THAT'S GONNA CONNECT PETALUMA TO PEN GROVE.

SO YOU'D BE ABLE TO BIKE NOW, WALK THROUGH THAT DEDICATED PATH.

SO JOIN FOLKS AT 11 O'CLOCK AND WE'LL DO SOME KIND OF FIXED ROUTE AND, AND CELEBRATIONS.

THEN ALSO A DATE WHERE WE'VE GOT, UH, WE ARE GONNA STRESS TEST LU CASEY PARK.

THIS IS MAY 10TH.

UM, THE INCLUSION FESTIVAL IS HELD AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER.

EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

THEY WILL BE TAKING OVER THE COMMUNITY CENTER.

UM, ALCHEMY, THE, THE GROUP THAT'S BEEN NOW A FEW YEARS RUNNING, RUNNING, UM, ALL SORTS OF WONDERFUL EVENTS, ACTIVITIES, GROUPS, EDUCATION, FOODS, ENTERTAINMENT.

THEY ALSO WILL BE JOINED BY THE WIFFLE BALL TOURNAMENT AT MIRACLE LEAGUE.

AND IT WILL BE TAKING PLACE AT THE MIRACLE LEAGUE, AS WELL AS THE MULTI-USE CASEY TUR FIELD.

THERE WILL BE LITTLE LEAGUE THAT DAY AS WELL.

AND THERE'LL BE THE MOTHER'S DAY TEE, I BELIEVE, AT THE SENIOR CENTER.

SO, UM, WE NEED TO GET SOME DRONE FOOTAGE OF HOW THAT ALL SHAKES OUT.

BUT WE ARE COMMUNICATING WITH EACH ORGANIZERS.

WHAT'S REALLY INTERESTING IS BETWEEN THE MIRACLE LEAGUE WIFFLE BALL AND THE INCLUSION FEST.

LIKE IF YOU HAD TO PUT, YOU KNOW, TWO GROUPS TOGETHER TO REALLY SHARE A TIGHT SPACE, THOSE ARE THE TWO GROUPS TO DO IT.

THEY REALLY FEED OFF EACH OTHER FROM A MISSION STATEMENT.

AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PULLING FOR.

UM, BUT THEY'RE CONNECTED AND WE'RE, UM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF FUN.

SO MAY 10TH, IF YOU UM, CANNOT MAKE THAT, PLEASE TRY NOT TO FIND PARKING ANYWHERE AROUND CASEY.

SOME PARK UPDATES I GET TO DO.

WE HA WE ARE NEW PROUD OWNERS OF AN ELECTRIC MOWER, WHICH IS EXCITING.

WE'VE BEEN DEMO THESE FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.

UH, WE HAVE A, THE LARGEST, I THINK, COMMERCIAL NOW, UH, DECK, WHICH IS A, I THINK THEY HAVE UP TO 72 INCHES ON AN ELECTRIC MOWER.

UM, THERE'S NOT TO REPLACE OUR LARGE GANG MOWER, WHICH DOES WITH A WINGSPAN OF 16 FEET.

THOSE ARE THE ONES OUTSIDE AT PRINCE PARK.

BUT THESE ARE LIKE YOUR WORKHORSES.

AND WE'VE GOT ONE TO REPLACE, UH, AN EXPIRED GAS UNIT AND WE HAVE ONE MORE COMING.

SO REALLY EXCITED YOU'LL SEE THOSE OUT THERE.

UM, AND THE CREWS HAVE BEEN DEMOING THEM FOR A COUPLE YEARS NOW AND LANDED ON A REALLY GOOD ONE AND WE'RE OFF AND GOING.

POWERED BY THE SUN.

THE AFTER MUCH ANTICIPATION ROCKY DOG PARK, THE LOWER PORTION OF THE PARK WAS, UM, WEED EAT, UH, MITIGATED.

HOWEVER, WE ARE BRINGING GRAZING TO ROCKY DOG PARK FOR THE FIRST TIME ON RECORD THAT I CAN FIND.

PROBABLY IN THE 18 HUNDREDS THEY WERE GRAZING IT, BUT FOR NOW, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING YOU'D THINK OF.

YOU KNOW, WHY, HOW DO YOU GRAZE A DOG PARK? SO WE WILL HAVE TO CLOSE THE DOG PARK TO DOGS, BUT WE ARE GONNA OPEN THE PARK TO SHEEP.

THAT'S HOW I'M SAYING IT.

UM, IT'S GONNA HAPPEN SUNDAY, SO WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF LEAD TIME.

SO WE'RE GONNA BE PUTTING MESSAGING OUT TOMORROW.

BUT UH, WE HAVE THIS KIND OF CRITICAL AREA AND IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH WITH ROCKY, IT IS REALLY PRONE FOR THE FOXTAILS.

AND SO WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS TRYING SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE GONNA GET.

IF WE WEED EAT A FEW TIMES, WE'RE GONNA GET THE SAME CONCERNS.

SO WE'RE GONNA TRY TO REALLY SEE IF WE CAN CHANGE THE LANDSCAPE A LITTLE BIT BY GRAZING HARD IN THE AREA AND SEE HOW IT GOES.

SO WE'LL BE OUT THERE IF IT COULD BE AS LONG AS TWO WEEKS, IT COULD BE A WEEK.

SO WE'LL GIVE AN UPDATE, UM, AFTER THE FIRST WEEK GOES AND SEE HOW HUNGRY THE SHEEP ARE.

BUT, UM, WANTED YOU ALL TO KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING VERY DIFFERENT.

UM, WE'VE NEVER HAD TO CLOSE ROCKY.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT'S GONNA BE AN IMPACT, BUT WE HOPE WHEN WE OPEN BACK UP, WE'LL HAVE A BETTER SEASON OUT THERE FOR THE VEGETATION OUT THERE.

UM, I SEE SOME QUESTIONS.

HOW ARE YOU GONNA BE COMMUNICATING THAT TO THE COMMUNITY? IN PARTICULAR? A VERY VOCAL GROUP ON SOCIAL MEDIA? WHO? UM, I'M LOOKING TO YOU, KATE.

YEAH, NO, NO, JUST JOKING.

.

UM, WE ARE PUTTING OUT MESSAGING STARTING TOMORROW, SO THROUGH ALL OF OUR SOCIAL CHANNELS.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET THAT OUT THERE BEFORE THE WEEKEND AND THEN WE'LL BE PUTTING SIGNS AND SIGNAGE UP ON SITE.

UM, BUT YEAH, I UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT MUCH NOTICE.

UM, BUT WE MOVED IT UP

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IN THE SCHEDULE.

UH, THIS IS KIND OF JUST OUR TIME THAT WE HAD TO MAKE, MAKE THE DECISION.

SO YES, EMAIL BLAST, THE SOCIAL BLASTS AND INFORMATION WILL GO OUT BEFORE THE WEEKEND AND THEN SIGNS UP ON SITE THE BEST WE CAN.

IS IT UP ON ANY KIND OF WEBSITE THAT WE CAN DIRECT PEOPLE TO? YES.

SO MY NEXT UPDATE IS OUR PROMOTE OUR NEW FLOCK FINDER, WHICH IS GONNA BE GOING LIVE NEXT WEEK.

AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT 'CAUSE WE GET A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT WHERE ARE THE SHEEP GOING NEXT AND YADA YADA, SO YOU CAN TRACK YOUR FLOCKS.

SO THAT'S GONNA BE, I THINK, THE BIGGEST HIT ON THE WEBSITE FOR AT LEAST A WEEK, I HOPE.

AND WE'RE OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS TOO.

SO ONCE WE GET THE FLOCK FINDER LIVE, WE WANT TO HEAR FEEDBACK, HOW IT'S BEING USED AND, AND NOT USED.

SO THAT'S ONE WAY THAT I WANT PEOPLE TO BE AWARE OF.

THEY CAN KIND OF TRACK BETTER.

WE, WE LIST OUR GRAZING PROGRAM OUT, BUT IT'S NEVER, YOU NEVER HIT IT BY DAY BY DAY.

IT REALLY DOES DEPEND ON THE WEATHER, THE VEGETATION, AND HOW QUICKLY WE CAN MOVE THROUGH AREAS SOME SHORTER THAN LONGER.

SO WE'LL GIVE PEOPLE THE OUTLINE OF THE ACREAGE THAT WE'RE DOING, BUT POINT PEOPLE TO FLOCK FINDER.

YOU CAN FIND THEM IN THE MOMENT.

OKAY.

UH, HOLD ON.

, YOU CAN, YOU CAN'T NOT SO F FAST.

HEY, I'M JUST PUTTING TOGETHER EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE DOING AND NOW I'M REALLY CONCERNED FOR YOU.

NO, UH, I AM YOU HAVE A FLOCK, RIGHT? YEAH, JUST AT NIGHT THEY'RE GONNA OKAY.

UM, HOW ARE YOU GONNA KEEP 'EM IN THAT AREA IS ELECTRIC.

YEAH.

SO THERE WILL BE A, A SHEPHERD.

THAT'S NOT ME .

UM, BUT THAT WOULD BE SUCH A GOOD OUTFIT.

YES, I KNOW.

THAT'S, THAT'S RETIREMENT.

THAT'S WHAT I'LL BE.

BUT, UM, THE SHEPHERD'S WITH THEM 24 HOURS.

SO THEY, THEY, THEY LIVE WITH THEM ON SITE.

OKAY.

AND THEY HAVE ELECTRIC FENCES AND WE MOVE THEM AROUND, UH, WITH WATER SHADE.

YEAH.

TO GRAZE CERTAIN AREAS HARDER THAN EXPANDED, BUT YOU REALLY COULDN'T DO THAT AND KEEP THE DOG PARK OPEN.

UM, SO THAT'S MOST PLACES WE, WE JUST HAVE SIGNAGE.

WE WORK WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE PARK.

THIS IS ONE THAT WE JUST HAVE TO CLOSE IT.

YEAH.

YEAH.

I, I FEEL LIKE THAT PIECE SHOULD, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ALWAYS COMMUNICATED, BUT THAT SHOULD BE COMMUNICATED THAT THAT'S, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THAT LIKE, JUST REITERATING, UM, BECAUSE ROCKY IS IN THE MIDDLE, NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE, BUT IT'S OFF TO THE SIDE OF NOWHERE.

SO MAYBE COMMUNICATING THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, THERE'S ELECTRIC FENCING I THINK WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA.

UM, I CAN JUST, I DON'T KNOW, THERE'S NOT A LOT FOR TEENS TO DO.

AGAIN, , I THINK IT'S A GOOD COMMUNICATION CALL.

NOT GIVING ANY IDEAS EITHER.

BUT I THINK THAT THE, UM, MOVING ON.

THANK YOU DREW.

YEP.

THANK YOU.

UH, MULCH DELIVERIES ARE PICKING UP.

SO THANK YOU TO THE GARDEN CLUB.

UH, MULCH WAS SPREAD RECENTLY AT WICKERSHAM PARK.

ALSO DELIVERED TO LE CASEY AND GLEN BROOK PARKS.

SO OUR PARTNERS AT RELEAF WILL HELP SPREAD, UH, MULCH ON THOSE AREAS.

GRAFFITI, UH, IT WAS REMOVED AT PRINCE LEGHORNS AND JUST A FEW OTHER PARKS YOU'RE, YOU'RE PROBABLY SEEING AS WELL.

THERE'S JUST BEEN KIND OF AN UP UPTICK, UM, NOT UNCOMMON AND NOT UNIQUE TO PETALUMA, BUT JUST WANTED YOU ALL TO BE AWARE.

UM, WE'RE GETTING TO IT.

UH, AND ABATING AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN.

WE JUST ASK THAT IT GETS REPORTED.

UM, WE DON'T OFTEN AND I APPRECIATE THOSE THAT DO.

JUST SEND ME A QUICK PHOTO, UM, THAT JUST GRAFFITI PARK IN THE SUBJECT LINE.

UM, WE WILL GET TO IT.

IF, IF ANYTHING IS UM, DEROGATORY HATE SPEECH, WE PRIORITIZE THAT.

BUT DURING OUR PEAK WEEDY SEASON AS IS NOW, WE'RE REALLY FOCUSING ON, UM, GETTING THE MOWING, GETTING THE VEGETATION HANDLED.

BUT WE WILL GET TO GRAFFITI AS WELL.

UM, BUT ALWAYS REPORT PLEASE.

DID YOU GUYS GET THE SKATE PARK TOO? I HAVE THE SKATE PARK ON, ON THAT TOO.

IT'S THE TARTS.

IT JUST ON THE LIST? YEAH.

'CAUSE I THINK IT WAS STILL, YES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I THINK THAT'S IT.

I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

THAT WAS FUN.

AND UM, THANK YOU ALL.

WE ARE HERE TO MAKE YOUR LIFE FUNNER.

DEFINITELY.

OKAY, WELL THAT'S, UH, ADJOURNS AND FINISHES THIS, UH, MEETING FOR APRIL 16TH, 2025.

THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.