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GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE 10TH MEETING OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISOR COMMITTEE FOR WEDNESDAY, JUNE 25TH, 2025.IF YOU WISH TO PROVIDE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, PLEASE FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD IN THE BACK OF THE CHAMBER AND BRING IT TO THE COMMITTEE CLERK.
AT THIS POINT I'D LIKE THE CLERK TO TAKE ROLE.
UH, NEXT I'D LIKE TO LEAD THE COMMITTEE ON A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
AT THIS POINT I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
UH, DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON ITEMS OF PUBLIC INTEREST THAT ARE WITHIN THE COMMITTEE SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION, AND THAT ARE NOT LISTED ON THE CURRENT AGENDA.
PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED UP TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON.
DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF PERSONS WISHING TO ADJUST.
THE COMMITTEE TIME WILL BE ALLOCATED IN EQUAL SHARES TOTALING NO MORE THAN 15 MINUTES.
CLERK, HAVE WE RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING? NO.
WE HAVE RECEIVED NO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
THEN AT THIS TIME, I WILL CLOSE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT AND CONTINUE WITH THE AGENDA.
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BE THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR THE MEETING ON MAY 28TH, 2025.UH, I'D LIKE TO PASS THE CLERK IF THERE ARE ANY CHANGES OR CORRECTIONS.
UM, ANY CHANGES OR CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES? NO.
I'LL MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES.
THEN WE'D LIKE TO MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES WITH A VOICE VOTE.
I WILL NOTE THAT NO ONE VOTED NO.
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MOVE ON TO THE PRESENTATION OF THE REVIEW OF THE PETALUMA POLICE DEPARTMENT ANNUAL MILITARY EQUIPMENT.I'D LIKE TO OPEN THE PRESENTATION ITEM TO CHIEF MILLER AND STAFF TO INTRODUCE THE TOPIC.
YEAH, I'M GONNA TURN IT RIGHT OVER TO OUR PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS, LIEUTENANT, LIEUTENANT AVIANO TO, TO GIVE THE PRESENTATION ON BEHALF OF THE DEPARTMENT LIEUTENANT GOOD EVENING COMMITTEE AND COMMITTEE CHAIR.
THIS EVENING'S PRESENTATION IS MEANT TO BE AN OVERVIEW OF ASSEMBLY, ASSEMBLY BILL 41, A TRANSMITTAL OF THE DRAFT FISCAL YEAR 25 MILITARY EQUIPMENT USE REPORT, AND AT THE END TO PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ANSWER QUE QUESTIONS AND SOLICIT FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMITTEE.
IN SEPTEMBER OF 2021, THE CALIFORNIA LEGISLATURE PASSED AB 41.
THE BILL'S AUTHOR NOTED A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY'S ABILITY TO ACQUIRE EQUIPMENT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WITHOUT AUTHORIZATION FROM ITS GOVERNING BODY.
THE BILL WAS AN EFFORT TO INCREASE TRANSPARENCY, ACCOUNTABILITY, AND OVERSIGHT ON THE ACQUISITION AND USE OF MILITARY EQUIPMENT.
THE BILL ALSO SOUGHT TO PROVIDE SAFEGUARDS TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC'S WELFARE, SAFETY, CIVIL RIGHTS, AND LIBERTIES DUE TO THE MISUSE OF MILITARY EQUIPMENT.
AMONG THE BILLS REQUIREMENTS WAS A PUBLIC, A PUBLICLY AVAILABLE ANNUAL REPORT TO THE GOVERNING BODY, WHICH IS TO INCLUDE HOW THE EQUIPMENT WAS USED, THE USE, MAINTENANCE, STORAGE, AND TRAINING COSTS, INFORMATION ABOUT POLICY VIOLATIONS RELATED TO THE MILITARY EQUIPMENT, AND THE INTENTION TO ACQUIRE ADDITIONAL MILITARY EQUIPMENT IN THE COMING YEAR.
IN ADDITION TO THE PRESENTATIONS TO THIS COMMITTEE AND CITY COUNCIL REGARDING AB 41, WHICH CAN BE FOUND ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, THE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN COMMITTED TO DISPLAYING HOSTING COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND PROVIDING INFORMATION REGARDING ITS USE OF MILITARY EQUIPMENT.
IN ADDITION TO TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION, WE'LL BE HOLDING A COMMUNITY MEETING IN THE FORM OF A MILITARY EQUIPMENT DISPLAY DAY IN THE FRONT LOT OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ON TUESDAY, JULY 8TH FROM 5:00 PM TO 6:30 PM AND THE FINAL REPORT WILL BE PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL ON AUGUST 4TH.
THE DEPARTMENT HAS ESTABLISHED A WEBPAGE LOCATED IN THE DEPARTMENT'S WEBSITE IN THE TRANSPARENCY, EXCUSE ME, PORTAL SECTION TITLED SPECIALIZED EQUIPMENT.
THE PAGE DISCUSSES AB 41 AND THE QUALIFYING EQUIPMENT CONTAINS HISTORICAL DOCUMENTS RELATED TO THE PROCEEDINGS.
SINCE THE ADOPTION OF AB 41 AND THE ANNUAL REPORT, THE DEPARTMENT HAS CREATED AN EMAIL FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO WISH TO PROVIDE COMMENTS, CONCERNS, AND COMPLAINTS REGARDING
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THE DEPARTMENT'S USE OF MILITARY EQUIPMENT.AND COMMUNI COMMUNITY MEMBERS CAN ALSO CONTACT THE OFFICE OF THE INDEPENDENT POLICE SOLDER WITH THEIR CONCERNS.
WHILE OUR CITY IS COMPRISED OF LARGE RES OF LARGE RESIDENTIAL BEDROOM COMMUNITY AND EXPANDING INVENTORY OF MULTI-STORY APARTMENT COMPLEXES, IT IS BOTH ACTIVE AND VIBRANT.
WE HAVE MULTIPLE METHODS OF PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, VARIOUS SCHOOL CAMPUSES AND ACTIVE DOWNTOWN AND NIGHTLIFE AND MARINA AND AIRPORT, NUMEROUS CITY AND BUSINESS COMPLEXES, AND WE HOST SEVERAL COMMUNITY EVENTS, FESTIVALS, PARADES, AND OUR FAIR.
UNFORTUNATELY, IN OUR NATION'S HISTORY, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF INCIDENTS WHICH LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS RESPONDED TO INVOLVING ARMED DANGEROUS AND VIOLENT MOTIVATED INDIVIDUALS, WHICH HAVE PLAYED OUT IN ALL THESE TYPES OF LOCATIONS AND EVENTS.
EACH OF THESE LOCATIONS AND EVENTS PRESENTS A DIFFERENT TACTICAL CHALLENGE.
WHILE WE HOPE TO NEVER HAVE TO RESPOND TO A TRAGIC EVENT IN ANY OF THESE AREAS, OUR DUTY TO, AS A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY IS TO ENSURE OUR OFFICERS ARE PROPERLY TRAINED AND EQUIPPED TO DEAL WITH OUR, THE DANGERS OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS MAY FACE IN THAT WE CANNOT SIMPLY PREPARE FOR WHAT HAS OCCURRED IN OUR COMMUNITY.
WE MUST PREPARE FOR THOSE INCIDENTS WHICH MAY OCCUR, AND OUR COUNTRY'S TRAGIC HISTORY OF CRITICAL INCIDENTS PROVIDES A WINDOW INTO THE POTENTIAL COMPLEX TACTICAL PROBLEMS OUR OFFICERS MAY BE FACED WITH.
WHILE WE HAVE BEEN CALLED UPON TO CONFRONT ARMED AND VIOLENT INDIVIDUALS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND HAVE DEALT WITH THREATS AND ACTUAL VIOLENCE TO INDIVIDUALS AND IN OUR BUSINESSES AND SCHOOLS, THERE ARE SEVERAL SERIOUS EVENTS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE IN RECENT HISTORY OUTSIDE OUR HISTORY THAT HIGHLIGHT THE IMPORTANCE OF PREPAREDNESS, INCLUDING THOSE WE SEE ON THIS SLIDE.
WITH KNOWLEDGE OF THESE INCIDENTS AND MANY OTHERS, WE'D BE DERELICT IN OUR DUTY NOT TO BE PREPARED TO HANDLE SUCH INCIDENTS, AND THAT PREPARATION INCLUDES BOTH PROPER TRAINING AND EQUIPMENT.
I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT WE RECOGNIZE THAT THIS PREPAREDNESS IS ONLY A PIECE OF OUR PUBLIC SAFETY MISSION.
AND AS A DEPARTMENT, WE EMBRACE THE IMPORTANCE OF STRONG COMMUNITY RELATIONSHIPS AND THE TRUST AND LEGITIMACY THAT THOSE RELATIONSHIPS BRING.
SO WHILE WE HAVE THE THIS EQUIPMENT AND ARE FORTUNATE THAT WE HAVE NOT HAD TO USE MUCH OF IT, WE RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF ONLY USING IT IN SITUATIONS WHERE IT IS WARRANTED.
FOR CONTEXT, MUCH OF THIS EQUIPMENT IS FOR THE SOLE USE OF OUR DEPARTMENT, SWAT TEAM MEMBERS.
THE SWAT TEAM IS ONE COMPONENT OF OUR CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM, WHICH ALSO INCORPORATES A TEAM OF TRAINED OFFICERS TRAINED IN CRISIS NEGOTIATIONS AND TACTICAL DISPATCHERS.
THE CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED TO PROVIDE SPECIALIZED SUPPORT IN THE HANDLING OF CRITICAL FIELD OPERATIONS, WHERE INTENSE NEGOTIATIONS AND SPECIAL TACTICAL DEPLOYMENT METHODS BEYOND THE CAPACITY OF PATROL OFFICERS APPEAR NECESSARY.
THE PRIMARY FOCUS OF THE CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM IS TO PROVIDE TACTICAL SOLUTIONS THAT INCREASE THE LIKELIHOOD OF DEESCALATION AND THE SAFE RESOLUTION OF HIGH RISK INCIDENTS.
THEIR PRIMARY O MISSIONS INCLUDE BARRICADED SUBJECTS WHO REFUSE AN ORDER TO SURRENDER INCIDENTS WHERE HOSTAGES ARE TAKEN AND ARREST OF DANGEROUS PERSONS.
OUR CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM IS A PART-TIME TEAM AND OFFICERS ARE ASSIGNED TO THESE TEAMS AS A COLLATERAL ASSIGNMENT.
IN ORDER TO BE A MEMBER OF THESE TEAMS, OFFICERS HAVE TO MEET MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS, PARTICIPATE IN RIGOROUS TESTING PROCESSES, AND COMMIT TO ADDITIONAL INITIAL AND ONGOING TRAINING.
MORE INFORMATION REGARDING A CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM CAN BE FOUND IN DEPARTMENT POLICY 4 0 8.
AND AS A REMINDER, ALL OF OUR POLICIES CAN BE FOUND ON OUR DEPARTMENT WEBSITE UNDER THE TRANSPARENCY PORTAL.
DURING THIS RATING PERIOD, THE DEPARTMENT'S DRONE TEAM BECAME FULLY OPERATIONAL, WHICH REFLECTS ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHANGES BETWEEN THIS REPORT AND THE ONES THAT PROCEEDED IT.
THE DEPARTMENT'S DRONE TEAM CURRENTLY CONSISTS OF FOUR OFFICERS AND A SERGEANT.
THESE TRAINED DRONE PILOTS ARE CURRENTLY ASSIGNED TO PATROL TEAMS AND HAVE ACCESS TO BOTH UNMANNED AERIAL SYSTEMS AND UNMANNED GROUND VEHICLES OR DRONES IN A ROBOT.
THE DRONE TEAM'S TRAINING CONSISTS OF OBTAINING A FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATOR'S, PART 1 0 7, REMOTE PILOT CERTIFICATION, CERTIFICATION, UNDERSTANDING LEGAL LIMITATIONS RELATED TO PRIVACY AND DEMONSTRATING PROFICIENCY IN THE USE OF UAS EQUIPMENT.
THE USE OF BOTH THE DRONES AND ROBOT ARE GOVERNED BY POLICY DEPARTMENT POLICY SIX 13.
THIS POLICY AND THE PURCHASE OF THE DRONE EQUIPMENT WERE APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL IN JUNE OF 2022.
AND AS A REMINDER, IN SEPTEMBER, THE DEPARTMENT WILL BE PROVIDING A PRESENTATION ON DRONES IN AUTOMATED LICENSE PLATE READERS TO THIS COMMITTEE.
WITH THE MAJORITY OF WHAT THE LEGISLATURE HAS DEEMED MILITARY EQUIPMENT ONLY ACCESSIBLE TO SPECIALLY TRAINED OFFICERS, IT IS IMPORTANT TO HIGHLIGHT WHAT EQUIPMENT IS AVAILABLE TO ALL OFFICERS.
EVERY PATROL CAR CAR IS OUTFITTED WITH A LESS LETHAL SHOTGUN, WHICH IS USED TO SHOOT 12 GAUGE DRAG STABILIZED BEANBAG ROUNDS.
THE SHOTGUNS ARE EASILY IDENTIFIABLE WITH THEIR ORANGE STOCKS AND FOUR STOCKS AS SEEN IN THE SLIDE ABOVE.
THE DEPARTMENT ALSO HAS EIGHT SINGLE EIGHT SINGLE SHOT 40 MILLIMETER LAUNCHERS, WHICH ARE DESIGNED TO SHOOT A VARIETY OF
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MUNITIONS.BUT THE ONLY MUNITION THAT IS AVAILABLE TO OUR PATROL OFFICERS IS THE 40 MILLIMETER EXACT IMPACT.
SPONGE ROUND USE OF THESE LESS LETHAL OPTIONS ARE GOVERNED BY DEPARTMENT POLICY 3 0 8, SPECIFICALLY COVERED UNDER CONNE, THE KINETIC ENERGY PROJECTILE GUIDELINES.
CIRCUMSTANCES THAT ARE APPROPRIATE FOR THE DEPLOYMENT OF THESE LESS LETHAL WEAPONS INCLUDE WHEN A SUSPECT IS ARMED WITH A WEAPON AND TACTICAL CIRCUMSTANCES ALLOW FOR THE SAFE APPLICATION OF THE MUNITIONS.
THE SUSPECT HAS MADE CREDIBLE THREATS TO HARM THEMSELVES OR OTHERS.
THE SUSPECT IS ENGAGED IN RIOTOUS BEHAVIOR OR STORING ROCKS, BOTTLES, OR OTHER DANGEROUS PROJECTILES AT PEOPLE AND OR OTHER OFFICERS.
OR THERE'S PROBABLE CAUSE TO BELIEVE THE SUSPECT HAS ALREADY COMMITTED A CRIME OF VIOLENCE AND IS REFUSING TO COMPLY WITH LAWFUL ORDERS.
AB 41 IDENTIFIED 15 CATEGORIES OF MILITARY EQUIPMENT OF WHICH THE DEPARTMENT HAS EQUIPMENT IN SEVEN OF THE CATEGORIES, UH, WHICH ARE HIGHLIGHTED ON THE SLIDE ABOVE.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO DISTINGUISH THAT ALTHOUGH THE LEGISLATURE HAS DEEMED THIS EQUIPMENT, MILITARY EQUIPMENT, THE DEPARTMENT ONLY HAS TWO PIECES OF EQUIPMENT THAT WERE DESIGNED FOR THE MILITARY IN AN AND OBTAINED FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE.
THOSE ARE OUR TWO ARMORED PERSONNEL CARRIERS, WHICH DO NOT HAVE OFFENSIVE CAPABILITIES OR GUNS, AND THEIR PURPOSE IS TO PROVIDE BALLISTIC PROTECTION AND TRANSPORT OFFICERS AND EQUIPMENT.
THE REMAINDER OF OUR EQUIPMENT WAS DESIGNED FOR AND IS COMMONLY USED BY MUNICIPAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES.
THE DEPARTMENT'S USAGE OF MILITARY EQUIPMENT IN FISCAL YEAR 24 WAS LARGELY DUE TO THREE SPECIFIC INCIDENTS INVOLVING THE DEPLOYMENT OF OUR CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM.
IN FISCAL YEAR 25, OUR CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM WAS NOT UTILIZED.
THE DEPARTMENT HAD SEVERAL INCIDENTS AND INVESTIGATIONS DURING THE REPORTING PERIOD, WHICH WERE HEADING TOWARDS THE DEPLOYMENT OF OUR CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM.
HOWEVER, THE DEPARTMENT WAS ABLE TO RESOLVE THEM BEFORE THEY REACH THE LEVEL OF NEEDING THE SPECIALIZED TEAM AND EQUIPMENT.
EXAMPLES OF OF SUCH INCIDENTS INCLUDE THE ARREST OF AN ARMED CARJACKING SUSPECT, A BARRICADED DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SUSPECT WHO WAS ARMED WITH THE RIFLE AND AN ADULT SON WHO HAD HELD HIS ELDERLY MOTHER CAPTIVE FOR SEVERAL HOURS.
DESPITE THE LACK OF USE, THE CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM IS A NECESSARY PART OF THE DEPARTMENT DUE TO THEIR ABILITY TO RESOLVE COMPLEX TACTICAL PROBLEMS. THE DEPARTMENT RECOGNIZES THE RESPONSIBILITY TO USE THE TEAM AND THE MILITARY EQUIPMENT OUTLINED IN THIS REPORT ONLY WHEN CIRCUMSTANCES WARRANT THEIR USE.
THE DEPARTMENT'S USE OF MILITARY EQUIPMENT DURING THE FISCAL YEAR 25 SAW A DECREASE IN THE USES AND SHOWS OF FORCE AS WAS PREVIOUSLY REPORTED IN THE IPA'S ANNUAL REPORT, ONE INCIDENT WHERE A BEANBAG SHOTGUN WAS USED IS OUTLINED IN THE REPORT.
THE INCIDENT INVOLVED THE ARREST OF A VIOLENT SUSPECT WHO HAD A WARRANT FOR ASSAULTING A 60-YEAR-OLD MOTHER.
AND UPON OFFICERS ATTEMPTING TO TAKE HIM INTO CUSTODY, HE RESISTED ARREST AND CHALLENGED OFFICERS TO FIGHT.
DURING THE INCIDENT, THE SUSPECT WAS SHOT TWICE IN THE LEG WITH A BEANBAG ROUND AND HE WAS ULTIMATELY ARRESTED.
AFTER A SIGNIFICANT STRUGGLE WITH MULTIPLE OFFICERS, BOTH THE SUSPECT AND THE OFFICER SUSTAINED MINOR INJURIES AS A RESULT OF THE INCIDENT.
THE USE OF THE MOBILE COMMAND VEHICLE WAS, WAS CONSISTENT WITH PRIOR YEARS BEING DEPLOYED ON OFFICE OF TRAFFIC SAFETY, DUI CHECKPOINTS, SPECIAL EVENTS SUCH AS BUTTER EGG DAY PARADE, AND OTHER COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EVENTS.
IN ADDITION TO THE DEPARTMENT HOSTED A COUNTYWIDE ORGANIZED RETAIL THEFT OPERATION, WHICH WAS COORDINATED BY THE CALIFORNIA HIGHWAY PATROL'S ORGANIZED RETAIL CRIME TASK FORCE.
THE MOBILE COMMAND VEHICLE WAS U UTILIZED AS A COMMAND POST.
THE OPERATION NETTED FOUR ARRESTS AND RECOVERED $1,200 IN STOLEN PROPERTY.
IT WAS THE FIRST OF SEVERAL SUCH OPERATIONS IN SONOMA COUNTY WITH THE MISSION OF DETERRING ORGANIZED RETAIL THEFT.
DURING FISCAL YEAR 25, THE DEPARTMENT DEPLOYED ITS DRONE 16 TIMES THE MOST COMMON USAGE INVOLVED, ATTEMPTING TO LOCATE INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE SUSPECTED OF COMMITTING A CRIME AND HAD FLED FROM OFFICERS.
WITH A FEW EXCEPTIONS, ALL OF THESE SITUATIONS IN WHICH A DRONE WAS DEPLOYED, OFFICERS MAY HAVE TRADITIONALLY REQUESTED THE ASSISTANCE OF A SHERIFF'S HELICOPTER.
ALTHOUGH WE ARE STILL FREQUENTLY AIDED BY THE SHERIFF'S HELICOPTER, THE DEPLOYMENT OF THE DRONES IS OFTEN MORE TIMELY AND LESS IMPACTFUL TO SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS.
THESE NEXT FEW SLIDES PROVIDE EXAMPLES OF THE CAPABILITY OF OUR DRONES.
THIS PICTURE IS, IS OF OAK HILL PARK OFFICERS HAD ATTEMPTED TO STOP A MOTORCYCLE FOR TRAFFIC VIOLATIONS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
THE MOTORCYCLE FLED FROM OFFICERS AND RODE INTO THE PARK, AND THE DRONE WAS, WAS USED IN ATTEMPT TO LOCATE 'EM.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT VIDEOS AND PHOTOGRAPHS FROM DRONE FOOTAGE RELATED TO INCIDENTS SUCH AS THIS ARE LATER UPLOADED INTO EVIDENCE.COM.
THE SECURE SYSTEM, WHICH CONTAINS ALL OUR BODY-WORN CAMERA, VIDEO, AND EVIDENTIARY PHOTOGRAPHS, THE SYSTEM INCLUDES PERMISSIONS TO PROHIBIT ACCESS.
BUILT-IN RETENTION SCHEDULES WOULD VARY DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF INCIDENT AND AN AUDIT TRAIL TO DETERMINE WHO HAS VIEWED THE EVIDENCE.
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NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.THE NEXT TWO SLIDES SHOW PICTURES TAKEN DURING AN INVESTIGATION.
IN OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR, THE POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS RESPONDED TO A REPORT OF A FIRE IN THE FIELD NORTH OF LYNCH CREEK.
THE REPORTING PARTY STATED THE SUBJECT WHO LIT THE FIRE WAS IN THE AREA AND SWINGING A SWORD BASED ON THE POTENTIAL THREAT OF AN ARMED SUSPECT, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WAS GOING TO STAGE OR TO NOT GO INTO EXTINGUISH THE FIRE UNTIL THE SCENE WAS DEEMED SAVED.
THIS SPECIFIC PICTURE SHOWS THE NEIGHBORHOOD ADJACENT TO LICH CREEK TRAIL AS THE DRONE OPERATOR ATTEMPT TO LOCATE BOTH THE FIRE AND THE SUBJECT.
THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT IS DRONE FOOTAGE WITH WITHOUT THE USE OF THERMAL IMAGING.
THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT DEPICTS DRONE FOOTAGE WITH THERMAL IMAGING.
THERMAL IMAGING UTILIZES INFRARED TECHNOLOGY TO DETECT HEAT EMISSIONS, WHICH ARE PROCESSED INDIVIDUAL INTO THE VISIBLE IMAGES SHOWN HERE.
AS YOU WILL SEE, THIS GREATLY ENHANCES THE DRONE OPERATOR'S ABILITY TO DISCERN OBJECTS IN PERSONS IN OPEN AREAS AT NIGHT.
THESE IMAGES THAT DEPICT THE TWO OFFICERS ATTEMPTING TO FIND THE SUSPECT USING THEIR FLASHLIGHTS, YOU CAN SEE 'EM ON THE PICTURE IN THE RIGHT, UH, JUST TO THE LEFT OF THAT PHOTO.
THEY'RE ILLUMINATING THE AREA.
THE USE OF THE DRONE IN THE THIS CIRCUMSTANCE INCREASED THE SITUATIONAL AWARENESS OF THE OFFICERS AS THEY, AS THEY KNEW APPROXIMATELY WHERE THE SUSPECT WAS.
THIS INCREASES THE POSSIBILITY THAT OFFICERS WILL NOT BE SURPRISED BY AN ARMED SUSPECT AND AFFORDS THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO DEESCALATE THE SITUATION.
UH, NEXT TWO SLIDES SHOW DRONE FOOTAGE FROM WHAT IS REFERRED TO AS A HIGH RISK TRAFFIC STOP.
IN THIS CASE, OFFICERS WERE RESPONDING TO A DISTURBANCE CALL FROM A LOCAL MOTEL WHERE IT WAS REPORTED THAT THE SUSPECT PULLED A FIREARM DURING AN ARGUMENT.
OFFICERS LOCATED AND STOPPED THE VEHICLE AS IT WAS LEAVING THE SCENE.
AND DUE TO THE MENTION OF THE FIREARM OFFICERS REMAINED BEHIND THE COVER OF THEIR PATROL VEHICLES AND IN A CONTROLLED MAN MANNER CALLED THE OCCUPANTS OF THE VEHICLE BACK TO THEM.
AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE PHOTO ON THE RIGHT, THE VEHICLE'S WINDOWS WERE DARKLY TINTED LIMITING OFFICER'S ABILITY TO SEE INTO THE VEHICLE.
ONCE THE KNOWN OCCUPANTS WERE REMOVED FROM THE VEHICLE, OFFICERS NEEDED TO VISUALLY SEARCH THE VEHICLE TO DETERMINE IF THERE WERE ANY OTHER SUBJECTS INSIDE THE VEHICLE THAT MAY BE LYING IN, WAIT OR ATTEMPTING TO HIDE.
A DRONE WAS DEPLOYED IN ATTEMPT TO LOOK INSIDE THE VEHICLE PRIOR TO OFFICERS MOVING UP TO CLEAR IT.
AFTER THE DRONE PILOT PILOT CLEARED THE VEHICLE TO THE BEST OF THEIR ABILITY, OFFICERS PHYSICALLY CONFIRMED THAT THE VIS, UH, VEHICLE WAS CLEAR.
THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF DRONES BEING UTILIZED TO AVOID POTENTIALLY ARMED CONFRONTATIONS WITH SUSPECTS IN CLOSE PROXIMITY SITUATIONS WAS HAVING AN INCREASED LIKELIHOOD OF FORCE BEING USED.
IF THE DRONE HAD LOCATED ADDITIONAL SUSPECTS, OFFICERS WOULD'VE REMAINED AT A DISTANCE AND EMPLOYED DIFFERENT TACTICS IN ATTEMPT TO CALL THE SUSPECT BACK TO THEM.
THE FOLLOWING CATEGORIES OF EQUIPMENT WERE NOT UTILIZED DURING THIS REPORTING PERIOD.
AND THERE WERE NO POLICY VIOLATIONS FOUND WITH THE DEPLOYMENT OR USE OF MILITARY EQUIPMENT DURING THIS REPORTING PERIOD, AND THERE WERE NO COMPLAINTS RELATED TO THE USE OF MILITARY EQUIPMENT.
AND WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND HEAR FEEDBACK AS HOW DID THE REPORT CAN BE IMPROVED BEFORE BEING FINALIZED AND PRESENTED TO COUNCIL ON AUGUST 4TH.
I WILL START, UM, MORE IN THE REALM OF FEEDBACK THAN QUESTIONS.
UM, I THINK THAT THE, ONE OF THE THINGS, AGAIN, SPEAKING FROM SORT OF A, A PUBLIC FACING PERSPECTIVE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAN BECOME CONCERNING IS IF WE FEEL LIKE THE ARE, UM, THOSE GIVEN THE AWESOME, UH, RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT US ARE SORT OF MAKING DECISIONS BASED ON FEAR OR ANXIETY.
AND SO MY ONLY FEEDBACK WAS THERE WAS ONE SLIDE THAT WAS SORT OF SHOWING A LOT OF SORT OF NATIONAL NEWS COVERAGE AND SORT OF LOOK AT ALL THE STUFF THAT COULD HAPPEN OUT THERE.
I JUST DON'T THINK YOU GUYS NEED THAT SLIDE IN ORDER TO MAKE THE POINT YOU'RE MAKING.
LIKE I THINK THAT THE SORT OF, UM, IDEA OF, HEY, WE NEED TO BE PREPARED AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE WORKING EQUIPMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, WILL SERVE US IN A VARIETY OF DISTANCE SITUATIONS IS ENOUGH.
I JUST FELT LIKE THAT SLIDE FELT A LITTLE BIT SORT OF, UM, FEAR GOATING, RIGHT? LIKE, HEY, REMEMBER ALL THE THINGS OUT THERE THAT YOU NEED TO BE AFRAID OF? AND THAT WOULD JUST BE MY ONLY FEEDBACK IS THAT, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T, I FELT LIKE THAT SLIDE MAYBE, UH, YOU KNOW, IF THERE WAS A LINE, MAYBE THAT SLIDE WENT A LITTLE BIT OVER THE LINE.
THIS IS THREE YEARS IN A ROW RUNNING ABOUT, UM, I WON'T CALL 'EM THE BIG TANKS ANYMORE 'CAUSE I KNOW THAT OFFENDED PEOPLE, BUT THE ARM PERSONNEL CARRIERS THAT, UM, ARE ARE THE MOST INTIMIDATING,
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UM, UH, EQUIPMENT THAT YOU HAVE.AND, UM, OTHER YEARS THERE WAS A LEASE, THEY CAME OUT OF THE STORAGE IN ORDER TO BE SHOWN AS DISPLAY.
SEEMS LIKE THIS YEAR THAT DIDN'T EVEN HAPPEN.
AND I'M WONDERING IF WE WOULD SAVE AT LEAST A COORDINATED REPORT.
IT NEVER, THEY, THEY DIDN'T SAY THAT WHERE THEY WERE EVER TAKEN OUT.
AND I'M WONDERING, WE HAVE A REALLY HIGH, UM, YEARLY, UH, STORAGE, UM, COSTS IF WE COULD SAVE ANYTHING BY NOT HAVING FIVE HUGE ARMORED, I MEAN YEAH.
SO THEY WERE, THEY WERE, UM, SO THE REPORT INDICATES OPERATIONAL USE.
SO THEY, WE DID HAVE A COMMUNITY, UH, ENGAGEMENT DISPLAY LAST YEAR WHERE WE BROUGHT THEM OUT, WE BROUGHT 'EM TO PETALUMA NIGHT OUT.
AND I HOPE TO SEE SOME OF YOU ON JULY 8TH WHEN WE BRING THEM OUT TO, TO SHOW.
UM, MAYBE THEN, THEN I'M, I JUST, IF YOU COULD CLARIFY, I'M SORRY ABOUT THE, I I DON'T, THAT'S WHERE I GOT THE FIVE IN MY HEAD, BUT I, I RECALL LAST YEAR IN THE, UH, IN MAKING MY COMMENTS, IN FACT, I THINK I LOOKED AT MY, MY CON LIKE WHAT I WROTE LAST YEAR, RIGHT? WAS THAT YOU DID INCLUDE IN THE REPORT THAT YOU HAD TAKEN IT OUT FOR DISPLAY.
SO THAT'S WHY I THOUGHT IT WAS NOT, YEAH, IT MAY BE IN THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT SECTION THAT THEY WERE INCLUDED IN THERE, BUT THE, UM, THE USAGES IN WHAT YOU SEE IN THE CHARTS, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, IS OPERATIONAL USE.
SO WE WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH ENOUGH TO HAVE THE, TO USE THEM ASSOCIATED WITH ANY MISSIONS THIS YEAR.
AND BY THE WAY, SO IT SEEMS LIKE SINCE YOU'VE GOTTEN THEM, YOU'VE NEVER ONCE USED THEM OPERATIONALLY.
WE, WE HAVE, IN THE PREVIOUS REPORT THERE WERE THREE INCIDENTS IN WHICH WE DEPLOYED THEM IN LAST YEARS.
SO, UM, YEAH, WE HIGHLIGHTED THAT IN THE, THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION, UH, WHERE THERE WAS A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SITUATION WHERE A BARRICADED SUBJECT WAS AT LAKE FULL CIRCLE.
UM, WE HAD THE INCIDENT AT MOTEL, UM, THE MOTEL AT NORTH MCDOWELL AND, UH, WASHINGTON, WHERE THE SANTA ROSA POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS DEALING WITH AN ARMED AND BARRICADED SUSPECT WHO END UP SHOOTING HIMSELF.
UM, AND THEN THERE WAS A THIRD INCIDENT THAT WE DEPLOYED.
SO THE THIRD I I, I STAND CORRECTED.
THEN I REALLY, I'M VERY, VERY SORRY.
YEAH, I I THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS A, A RUNNING THING THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT YEAH.
AND THEN TO, TO ADDRESS THE STORAGE PIECE OF IT.
SO, UM, THE DISTINCTION HERE IS THAT AB 41 SPECIFICALLY CALLS OUT THAT IF THERE'S A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT IS SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT, WHICH LANCO MAKES A BEARCAT, WHICH SERVES THE SAME PURPOSE.
UM, BUT BACK IN 2017 WHEN WE WENT TO PURCHASE THAT FOR A COST OF $750,000, THE MONEY WASN'T AVAILABLE.
UM, SO WE WERE ABLE TO GET THESE FOR FREE.
THE IMPORTANCE OF STORING 'EM IS THAT THEY DETERIORATE OVER TIME.
UH, SPECIFICALLY THE, THE BALLISTIC PANELING IN THE WINDOWS, IF IT'S EXPOSED TO SUN, UH, WILL DETERIORATE TO THE POINT YOU CAN'T SEE THROUGH THEM.
AND THEY'RE VERY COSTLY TO, UM, REPLACE THE TIRES BEING EXPOSED TO THE SUN PRESENTS PROBLEMS. UH, THOSE LARGE TAR TIRES ARE COSTLY TO REPAIR AND REPLACE.
UM, SO IT IS IMPORTANT TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE STORE THOSE.
UM, AND IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TOO, 'CAUSE THEY'RE OUTTA SIGHT AND THEN HIGHLIGHTING THE FACT THAT THE STORAGE THAT WE'RE PAYING FOR STORAGE, BUT IT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY JUST FOR THOSE TWO VEHICLES.
THERE'S A NUMBER OF PIECES OF EQUIPMENT, INCLUDING OTHER CITY EQUIPMENT.
THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS THEIR HISTORIC TRUCKS STORED IN THAT SAME BUILDING.
SO I APPRECIATE THE, THE, UH, INSIGHT AND THE, YOU KNOW, THINKING ABOUT TRYING TO BE MORE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE, UM, WITH THAT.
BUT THERE IS, THERE IS A NEED TO, TO HAVE THEM SHELTERED.
AND SO ALSO ON THE AUGUST CITY COUNCIL MEETING WHERE WE'LL BE BRINGING THIS PRESENTATION TO THE COUNCIL FOR OUR ANNUAL APPROVAL, THAT SAME NIGHT TENTATIVELY, WE'RE PLANNING TO HAVE A JOINT, UH, PRESENTATION, UH, POTENTIALLY ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY.
AND WHAT I CAN SAY IS THAT WE'VE BEEN CURRENTLY WORKING IN THE PLANNING PROCESS TO IDENTIFY SUITABLE ACCOMMODATIONS ON THE, THE NEW FACILITY SITE AND GET OUT OF THE LEASE AGREEMENT.
UM, AND SO WE'RE CURRENTLY ON A MONTH TO MONTH LEASE, WE'VE BEEN EXPLORING OTHER RENTAL OPPORTUNITIES, UM, AND MODELS OUT THERE, UM, TO, TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF THE CITY'S FINANCES, RECOGNIZING THAT WE DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO BE, UH, RENTING FOR SOMETHING THAT WE CAN FIND A MORE AFFORD AFFORDABLE RATE.
BUT THE, UM, THE, THE LONG-TERM SOLUTION IS DEFINITELY TO ENCOMPASS IT ON THE NEW FACILITY LOCATION, STORE IT THERE SECURELY, AND, UH, HAVE IT CENTRALLY LOCATED IN THE CENTER OF THE CITY.
SO IT'S IN, IN, UH, A PROPER RESPONSE POSITION TO IF, SHOULD IT BE NEEDED TO BE USED.
THE THIRD USE WAS TO PROTECT THE PRE, THE JEWISH PRESCHOOL DOWN THE STREET FROM AN ARMED SUBJECT THAT WAS AT THE BARBERSHOP ACROSS THE STREET ON THE CORNER OF FAIR AND WESTERN.
THAT WAS, THAT WAS ACTUALLY A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO.
SO IT WAS A, UH, IT HAD A, UH, SEXUAL ASSAULT SUSPECT ON NORTH MCDOWELL THAT OH, OKAY.
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BARRICADED.THAT WAS A SIGNIFICANT INCIDENT WHERE, UM, IN THAT INSTANCE, THE, THE SUBJECT HAD A SHOTGUN OUTSIDE OF HIS TRUCK AND WE HAD A CLASS, A CLASS IN THAT BUILDING OF CHILDREN THAT WE WERE TRYING TO PROTECT.
UM, GOOD JOB DOING THE PRESENTATION.
I JUST WANTED TO DO A SHOUT OUT THAT AS, UH, THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE LEADERSHIP CLASS, WE GOT TO, UM, HAVE AN, UH, A VERY IN DEPTH, UM, TEACHER.
I MEAN, THE OFFICERS TAUGHT US EVERYTHING ABOUT THOSE VEHICLES AND HOW THEY'RE STORED AND HOW THEY'RE USED.
AND THERE IS ALSO, I WANNA SAY AN RV AND IT'S USED AT, WAS IN A, UM, UM, MULTI-JURISDICTION.
SO THAT'S THE MOBILE COMMAND VEHICLE THAT, RIGHT.
AND IT WAS, THEY SHOWED US EVEN BECAUSE THE, THE WHITE BOARDS HADN'T EVEN BEEN ERASED YET.
AND THEY WERE LIKE, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THEY COMMUNICATE FROM DIFFERENT SHIFTS AND DIFFERENT, AND IT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE AND I JUST WANNA THANK YOU, BUT THAT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE AND I RECOMMEND THAT CLASS TO ANYBODY.
ITS THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE LEADERSHIP AND IT WAS THEIR, UM, WE SPENT THE WHOLE DAY AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND I THANK THE STAFF FOR TEACHING US EVERYTHING THERE IS TO KNOW ABOUT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND, AND THIS KIND OF EQUIPMENT.
PETAL POLICE TAR DEPARTMENT DOES NOT CARRY TASERS.
'CAUSE ON ONE OF THE 15 THINGS, IT WASN'T TASER AND IT HAD ANOTHER WORD WASN'T HIGHLIGHTED.
SO I'M ASSUMING IT'S A DIFFERENT THING.
IT'S, IT'S, AND I'M NOT TOO FAMILIAR WITH IT, BUT THEY REFER TO A LONG RA, LONG RANGE SHOCKWAVE.
SO IT'S, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE.
JUST BECAUSE I COULD SEE HOW SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T KNOW WOULD BE LIKE, YEAH, OH, THAT MEANS YOU DON'T HAVE TA.
YOU MIGHT WANNA ADD SOMETHING TO MAKE IT EXTRA, EXTRA CLEAR THAT YOU'RE NOT SUGGESTING YOU DON'T HAVE TASERS.
HISTORICALLY, SO WE WE'RE IN OUR, WHAT, THIRD YEAR OF PRESENTING THIS? SO THE FIRST YEAR WE BROUGHT IT TO COUNCIL, UM, WE OUTLINED KIND OF STANDARD ISSUE EQUIPMENT AS WELL.
SO STANDARD ISSUE EQUIPMENT GENERALLY IS NOT QUALIFYING BECAUSE IT'S NOT DESIGNATED AS MILITARY EQUIPMENT.
AND AGAIN, I THINK WE'VE REALLY TRIED TO, TO HIGHLIGHT, WHILE EVERYTHING IS DEFINED AS BEING MILITARY EQUIPMENT, THERE'S ONLY TWO PIECES THAT ARE ACTUALLY PRODUCED SPECIFICALLY FROM THE MILITARY.
AND SO SOME OF THAT'S SEMANTICS, I GET THAT.
BUT WE'VE ALSO TRIED TO DIFFERENTIATE THE TOOLS THAT ARE REALLY SPECIALIZED AND ARE USED IN HEIGHTENED SITUATIONS FROM THE TOOLS THAT ARE A DAILY APPLICATION.
SO OUR HANDGUNS A PATROL RIFLE, YOUR TASER DEVICE, AND LIEUTENANT GANO WAS CORRECT, IT'S THE TASER SHOCKWAVE.
AND SO IT'S, UH, ESSENTIALLY LIKE 30 TASER DEVICES IN ONE COMPONENT, AND YOU PRESS IT ONCE AND IT SHOOTS 30 TASER PROBES OUT.
AND APPARENTLY IT'S MEANT FOR HIGH VOLUME CROWD CONTROL SITUATIONS WHERE EVERYONE IN THE AREA GETS TASED.
AND THAT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING WE'VE EVER EXPLORED, HAD AN INTEREST.
BUT WE DO SEE ON A DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONAL LEVEL THAT THE TASER DEVICE IS A, IS A LESSER LETHAL OPTION THAT OUR PATROL STAFF TO USE IN, IN, IN FREQUENT SITUATIONS.
AND REMIND ME ONE MORE TIME, THAT TERM MILITARY EQUIPMENT, LIKE THERE'S NO WIGGLE ROOM IN, IN USING THAT TERM, THAT SORT OF IS A MANDATED TERM, LIKE YOU SAID, EVEN THOUGH THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE EQUIPMENT DOESN'T COME FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE, AND THERE'S A LOT OF EQUIPMENT THAT THE MILITARY USES THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MAKE IT MILITARY EQUIPMENT.
LIKE WHAT IS THE RULES REGARDING SORT OF WHY WE HAVE TO USE THAT TERM? IT, IT'S WRITTEN IN THE LEGISLATURE.
SO AB FOUR A ONE SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIES THOSE THINGS.
AND YOU, YOU, YOU KNOW, TO MENTION LIKE THE MOBILE COMMAND VEHICLE, THERE'S REALLY, IT'S REALLY LIKE YOU DESCRIBED AS AN RV, YOU KNOW, AND THERE'S NOTHING OFFENSIVE ABOUT IT.
IT SERVES AS A, UH, BACKUP COMMUNICATIONS CENTER FOR US IN NEED.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE STUCK WITH THE LEGISLATOR PROVIDED US.
SO EVEN IF YOU BOUGHT THE DRONE OFF AMAZON, YOU STILL HAVE TO CLASSIFY IT AS MILITARY RECORDS.
AND MANY, MANY OF THE DRONES THAT WE HAVE ARE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE.
IT'S NOT, SO THESE ARE NOT, NOT EVERYTHING THAT IS LISTED ARE FREEBIES FROM THAT, THAT I THOUGHT THAT ACTUALLY WERE KIND OF, THAT NO LEFTOVERS FROM, FROM MILITARY? NO, THE ONLY, THE ONLY TWO PIECES OF EQUIPMENT THAT WERE GIVEN TO US BY THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE WERE THE TWO ARE IN PERSONNEL CARRIERS.
THAT PROGRAM THOUGH, THERE ARE OTHER THINGS AVAILABLE.
THERE'S WEAPONS AND DEVICES AND THINGS THROUGH THE MILITARY EQUIPMENT PROGRAM.
HISTORICALLY, IN YEARS PAST, WE HAVE, UH, IN THE LATE 1990S, THE DEPARTMENT DIDN'T HAVE RIFLES AND THE DEPARTMENT GOT SURPLUS RIFLES THROUGH THE MILITARY PROGRAM.
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HAVE SINCE RETURNED THOSE.UM, AND THE ONLY PIECES OF EQUIPMENT WE HAVE ARE THOSE TWO NON-OFFENSIVE, UH, ARMORED RESCUE VEHICLES.
UM, AND SO WE, WE, WE JUST AS WE JUDICIOUSLY USE OUR EQUIPMENT AND USE IT SPARINGLY, UM, WE, UH, WE ARE VERY SENSITIVE ON THE TYPE OF EQUIPMENT THAT WE PROCURE.
AND THAT'S ALSO WHY NOT EVERY SINGLE CATEGORY OF QUALIFYING EQUIPMENT DO WE POSSESS.
I THINK WE FIND THAT REALLY GOOD BALANCE OF WHAT SERVES THIS COMMUNITY AND THE TYPE OF CRIME ISSUES THAT WE HAVE AND THE LEVEL OF READINESS THAT WE FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH AND THE SUPPORT THAT WE HAVE THROUGH OUR REGIONAL MUTUAL AID PARTNERS.
SHOULD WE ENCOUNTER SOMETHING THAT IS BEYOND OUR CAPABILITIES? AND I THINK IF YOU GUYS CAN, AGAIN, SORT OF FEEDBACK FOR THE REPORT, RIGHT? IF YOU GUYS CAN FIND A WAY TO SORT OF HIGHLIGHT THAT MORE, I THINK FROM A PUBLIC FACING STANDPOINT, THAT'S WHERE THE REACTION COMES FROM, RIGHT? THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE, MILITARY EQUIPMENT, AND WE THINK THIS IS STUFF COMING STRAIGHT FROM THE BATTLEFIELD.
AND THIS IS STUFF THAT WAS DESIGNED FOR MASH CASUALTIES OR SORT OF, YOU KNOW, TO DEGRADE A FOREIGN ENEMY.
AND THE IDEA OF SORT OF OUR POLICE USING THAT ON ITS OWN CITIZENS SORT OF RAISES THIS SPECTER.
AND SO THE MORE YOU GUYS CAN HIGHLIGHT THAT'S LIKE, HEY, MOST OF THIS EQUIPMENT DID NOT COME FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE, IT WAS NOT BUILT FOR MILITARY USE.
THAT MIGHT HELP, EVEN THOUGH IT MIGHT BE REDUNDANT
YEAH, I THINK, I THINK THAT'S A VALID POINT.
I THINK EVEN, EVEN SPEAKING TO THE NA THE, THE EVENTS THAT WERE HIGHLIGHTED THAT WERE ALL CALIFORNIA CENTRIC IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, IT WAS NOT MEANT TO BE, UH, YOU KNOW, GRANDSTANDING OR, OR POINT TO THOSE EVENTS.
BUT I THINK WHAT WE'VE SEEN AND WHAT THE DATA'S SUPPORTING IS THAT SMALL COMMUNITIES, MID-SIZED COMMUNITIES ARE GENERALLY WHERE THOSE ACTIVITIES ARE HAPPENING.
SO IT'S SMALL MUNICIPAL POLICE DEPARTMENTS LIKE OURSELVES, UM, THAT ARE EXPERIENCING, ENCOUNTERING AND ARE THE FIRST RESPONDERS IN MANY OF THOSE SITUATIONS.
UM, I I ALMOST IMPLORE YOU TO COME OUT JULY 8TH TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND SEE FIRSTHAND THE EQUIPMENT.
UM, I THINK THAT YOU WILL SEE WHAT WE HAVE DIFFICULTY OR AT TIMES FOR THOSE THAT ARE MISTRUSTING OF LAW ENFORCEMENT.
I CAN SAY IT A MILLION TIMES, BUT I, I THINK UNTIL YOU SEE IT OR YOU FIRSTHAND AND YOU CAN HELP US SHARE THAT MESSAGE THROUGH THE COMMUNITY OF WE WERE THERE.
I WALKED INTO IT, I SAT IN IT, UM, I THINK YOU'LL UNDERSTAND AND SEE SOME, SEE THE FUNCTIONALITY AND SEE SOME OF THE LIMITATIONS OF IT.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, FORMER CHIEF ANO AND I SHARE THE SENTIMENT THAT, THAT, AS THE LIEUTENANT MENTIONED, THERE'S A COMMERCIALLY AVAILABLE ARMORED RESCUE VEHICLE.
UM, WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING CURRENTLY AVAILABLE AND IT'S REALLY HARD TO BEAT, UH, ONE THAT COST US $0 TO PROCURE.
THEY BOTH WOULD REQUIRE STORAGE 'CAUSE THEY'RE ALL OVERSIZED.
UM, BUT IF WE WERE IN A POSITION TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT AND COULD REPLACE LIKE, FOR, LIKE, I THINK WE WOULD BE OPEN TO THAT CONVERSATION.
AND THE REASON THAT WE ALSO HAVE TWO, 'CAUSE WE'VE HEARD, YOU KNOW, WHY DO YOU HAVE TWO? WELL, ONE IS, UM, IT'S LARGE AND IT CAN FIT OUR ENTIRE CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM IN IT, OUR SWAT TEAM MEMBERS.
BUT WE'VE ALSO SEEN FROM, UM, DEBRIEFING A NUMBER OF THESE TRAGIC INCIDENCES THAT THERE'S COMPETING INTERESTS, RIGHT? THERE'S PEOPLE THAT ARE INJURED, UH, THEIR CASUALTIES AND NEED TO BE TREATED AND NEED TO BE REMOVED FROM THAT SCENE, BUT WE ALSO HAVE AN ACTIVE THREAT.
AND SO THIS GIVES US THE ABILITY TO HAVE OUR TACTICAL TEAM ADDRESS THE INDIVIDUAL BEFORE THEY CONTINUE TO VICTIMIZE OTHERS, BUT ALSO HAVE FIREFIGHTERS AND RESCUE PERSONNEL GOING IN WITH ARMORED TO EXTRICATE INDIVIDUALS.
AND WE'VE USED A BACKBOARD IN ONE OF OUR PERSONNEL, UM, ARMORED VEHICLES TO REMOVE SOMEONE FROM A SCENE.
AND WE MADE, UM, TO SOME DEGREE, I, I THINK WE'RE ONE OF THE FIRST AGENCIES IN THE NATION.
WE GOT THE, THE LARGE PERSONNEL VEHICLE FROM THE CITY OF EL MONTE PREVIOUSLY.
AND, UM, THE FIRST YEAR THAT WE HAD IT, WE USED IT IN OUR FLOODS ON STONY POINT AND HELPED TO GET THE SENIOR CITIZENS OUT OF THE LEISURE LAKE MOBILE HOME COMPLEX.
AND THAT VEHICLE, EVEN THOUGH THE WHEELS ARE ALMOST, AS YOU KNOW, UP TO MY SHOULDER, WAS ACTUALLY LIFTED BY THE WATER LEVEL AND WAS FLOATING ON STONY POINT ROAD.
AND IT'S, IT'S A HUGE VEHICLE.
UM, AND SO WHAT WE FIND IS ALONG THE BOULEVARD THERE'S POCKETS OF WATER AND DRY LAND.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T TAKE A BOAT JUST UP THE BOULEVARD BECAUSE YOU'LL RUN INTO DRY LAND AND IT'S THE ONLY VEHICLE THAT'S LARGE ENOUGH TO GET ACROSS EACH OF THOSE AREAS AND GET INTO THOSE REALLY DIFFICULT ACCESSIBLE AREAS.
SO IT'S BEEN BEEN HIGHLY EFFECTIVE FOR US IN A NUMBER OF SITUATIONS, UM, BEYOND JUST BEING KIND
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OF A REALLY, REALLY TACTICAL PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.I'VE GOT ONE MORE QUESTION, UH, SWITCHING TOPICS A LITTLE BIT.
UH, SO THERE WAS A NON-LETHAL SORT OF, UM, CROWD CONTROL IS PROBABLY THE ONE, BUT THERE WAS THIS SORT OF THE ORANGE SHOTGUN THAT SHOT BEANBAGS AND THE, UH, THE OTHER GUN THAT SORT OF SHOT THE, UH, SPONGE ROUNDS, RIGHT? IS THE, AND I THINK IT'S A SMART IDEA THAT'S LIKE, HEY, YOU, THE ORANGE SORT OF IDENTIFIES IT AS A NON-LETHAL DEVICE.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE KNOWN TO THE PUBLIC THOUGH? LIKE IF SOMEBODY POINTED THAT AT ME, I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD KNOW, OH, IT'S ORANGE, THAT MEANS IT'S NOT A SHOTGUN WITH AN ACTUAL ROUND IN IT THAT'S LETHAL.
LIKE, IS THAT SOMETHING THE PUBLIC IS MADE AWARE OF? LIKE, LOOK FOR THE COLOR OF THE GUN THAT THE POLICE OFFICER IS HOLDING TO KNOW IF IT'S LETHAL OR NOT LETHAL? IT'S, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE PROACTIVELY HAVE PUT OUT THERE, UM, IN, IN A COUPLE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES, AND I UNDERSTAND WHY THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT.
MOST, MOST, MOST SUSPECTS WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH THIS ARE, ARE UNDER, IN UNDER THE, UH, STRESS OF THE EVENT THAT IT BE, IS DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO MAKE RATIONAL DECISIONS IN THOSE, THOSE SITUATIONS.
SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY WOULD PICK THAT UP.
BUT IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT THAT THE OFFICERS SURROUNDING THE OFFICER WITH THE LESS LETHAL WEAPON ARE AWARE OF WHAT THEY'RE POINTING AT.
UM, WE DON'T WANT A SYMPATHETIC FIRE WITH A LETHAL WEAPON AT THE TIME THEY'RE DEPLOYING THAT WEAPON.
SO WE, OFFICERS ARE TRAINED TO ANNOUNCE LOUDLY THAT THIS IS A LESS LETHAL.
SO IN THE CASE OF THE BEANBAG, THEY'LL SHOUT BEANBAG, BEANBAG BEANBAG BEFORE FIRING IT.
SO WE DON'T HAVE SYMPATHETIC FIRE.
UH, BUT YOU BRING UP A VALID POINT IN TERMS OF, UM, DISPLAYING THE EQUIPMENT, UM, WHICH HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, THROUGH, THROUGH PRESENTATIONS LIKE THIS WHERE WE WERE SHOWING SLIDES OF THEM, UM, PEOPLE TO SEE THAT, DID YOU WANNA ALSO MAYBE ADDRESS JUST EVEN THE IDENTIFICATION FOR AN OFFICER RESPONDING TO A HIGH STRESS INCIDENT AND MAKING SURE THEY SELECT THE RIGHT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT AS OPPOSED TO LIKE A STANDARD ISSUE SHOTGUN? HOW DID THAT'S WHY WE DIFFERENTIATE THE TWO TWO, YEAH.
AND WE, WE'VE GOTTEN AWAY FROM, WE, UM, 2020 WE TRANSITIONED, WE HAD LETHAL SHOTGUNS IN ALL THE CARS AND WE TRANSITIONED 'EM ALL THEM ALL TO LESS LETHAL SHOTGUNS BECAUSE MOST OFFICERS ARE CARRYING A PATROL RIFLE.
AND IT, WHILE THE A LETHAL SHOTGUN HAS MANY USAGES AND THERE'S DIFFERENT REASONING WHY YOU WOULD USE THEM, WE WANT TO ENSURE ENSURE OFFICERS HAD A LONG RANGE, UH, LESS LETHAL OPTION.
UH, THE TASER AT THE TIME WE CARRIED, HAD AN EFFECTIVE RANGE OF 21 FEET.
UM, THE BEANBAG SHOTGUN, I THINK BELIEVE WAS UP TO 121 FEET, SO MUCH GREATER DISTANCE, WHICH ALLOWS AFFORDS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DEESCALATE SITUATIONS.
UM, BUT THROUGH, UH, THE CHIEFS SPEAKING TO THE FACT THAT WHEN THE OFFICER ENTERS THEIR CAR, THEY'RE, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO VERIFY THAT THE ROUNDS ARE IN FACT BEANBAG ROUNDS PRIOR TO LOADING THEM TO, TO ENSURE IT'S ONE MORE, UM, SAFE CHECK ON, UM, ENSURING THAT THEY'RE NOT NOT LETHAL USING LETHAL ROUNDS.
YEAH, I THINK, I MEAN, I THINK EVERYONE IN THIS REGION'S AWARE OF, UH, YOU KNOW, THE BART SHOOTING WHERE THERE WAS CONFUSION OR POTENTIAL CONFUSION, AND WE'VE SEEN THAT IN OTHER HIGH STRESS SITUATIONS.
SO OFTENTIMES A LOT OF OUR, OUR HIGHLY VOLATILE CASES ARE HAPPENING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.
OFFICERS ARE STRESSED, THEY'RE BEING ASKED TO GET A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT OR GOING TO THE NEAREST CAR.
AND SO WE WANT IT TO BE READILY ABUNDANT AND VERY, VERY CLEAR THAT THEY DON'T MISTAKENLY GRAB ANOTHER PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.
UM, BECAUSE TO SOME DEGREE, AS YOU SEE, LIKE A LOT OF OUR EQUIPMENT IS BLACK AND LOOKS THE SAME AND, AND IN THESE STRESSFUL SITUATIONS, IT COULD BE EASY TO CONFUSE THAT, EASY TO CONFUSE THE MUNITIONS THAT SLIDE.
SO YOU SAW THE, THE MUNITION FOR THE BEANBAG IS VERY UNIQUE AND WHITE.
IT HAS THE, THE STOCK OF THE SHOTGUN IS ORANGE AND ON THE 40 MILLIMETER, UM, KINETIC DEVICE THAT HAS A BLUE TIP SPONGE AROUND, AND IT'S VERY DISTINCT TOO.
SO WE TRY TO REALLY DIFFERENTIATE TO MAKE OFFICERS MAKING THE MOST SOUND DECISIONS AND MAKING SURE THEY'RE CONFIDENT THAT THEY'RE GETTING THE RIGHT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT'S MOST SUITABLE FOR THAT SITUATION.
AND I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S FANTASTIC AND I'M, I'M REALLY GLAD YOU GUYS ARE DOING THAT.
I'M JUST, I'M JUST SORT OF BRINGING UP THAT IF, IF SOMEBODY POINTED ONE OF THOSE AT ME, I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD HAVE THE RIGHT BRAIN SPACE TO SORT OF PICK UP ON, HEY, THEY YELL BEANBAG, BEANBAG, BEANBAG.
YOU CAN SAY SOMETHING TO THEM 10 TIMES RIGHT NEXT TO THEM AND THEY STILL WOULD NOT HEAR YOU.
SO I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF IT BECOMES A, A TACTICAL ISSUE FOR SAFETY ISSUE FOR THE, FOR THE OFFICER IF THEY SORT OF ANNOUNCE THAT THIS IS NON-LETHAL.
LIKE YOU COULD, YOU COULD EASILY MAKE THE ARGUMENT TO ME THAT ANNOUNCING THAT SORT OF ROBS THE POLICE OFFICER OF A, A CERTAIN DEGREE OF, OF SAFETY.
BUT I ALSO CAN SEE THE OTHER SIDE OF IT THAT FROM THE, FROM THE, UH, PERSON THAT IS HAVING IT POINTED AT THEM, RIGHT? SO, SO, SO OFFICERS THAT TRAUMA IS REAL, WHETHER AT THE END OF THE DAY IT WAS A BEANBAG, IT ENDED UP BEING NON-LETHAL OR NOT, THE TRAUMA OF HAVING THAT POINTED AT THEM WILL DEFINITELY LAST.
AND SO ANY SORT OF WAY TO ENHANCE THEIR UNDERSTANDING OF, HEY, ME PULLING OUT THIS WEAPON IS NOT ME TRYING TO ESCALATE
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THIS TO A LETHAL PLACE.THIS IS ACTUALLY ME TRYING TO KEEP THIS TO A NON-LETHAL PLACE, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
I'M SORT OF YEAH, COUNTING ON YOU GUYS AS EXPERTS TO FIGURE THAT OUT.
SO TO ADDRESS THAT, SO WHEN O WHEN OFFICERS ARE EMPLOYING THESE WEAPONS, WE'RE FEASIBLE AND IT'S WRITTEN MANY TIMES IN OUR POLICY, THEY'RE TO PROVIDE A, A WARNING, AND THAT WARNING CAN BE SPECIFIC AND SHOULD BE SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE ABOUT TO DO.
UM, IN SITUATIONS WHERE WE'RE GONNA TASE SOMEBODY, IF YOU DON'T STOP WHAT YOU'RE DOING, WHAT YOU WILL BE TASED OR YOU'LL BE SHOT WITH A BEANBAG.
UM, SO THERE, THERE ARE WARNINGS THAT WE TEACH AND TRAIN, UM, PRIOR TO THE DEPLOYMENT OF THESE WEAPONS.
SO AGAIN, DOES IT, DOES IT LAND? AND, YOU KNOW, COMMUNICATION TAKES TWO PEOPLE AND, UM, BUT WE, WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE, UH, CONTINUE TO TRAIN THAT AND ENSURE THAT THOSE THINGS ARE OCCURRING.
AND THEN, UH, I JUST WANT TO ADD ONE MORE THING TO THAT.
UM, WHEN WE DEPLOY THE LESS LETHAL SHOTGUN OR THE 40 MILLIMETER, UM, SPONGE ROUND, THE, THE, WE DON'T JUST, IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE RESPONDING TO A CALL AND JUST WALKING DOWN THE STREET AND HAVE THESE WEAPONS ON US.
THE LESS LETHAL WEAPONS ARE TYPICALLY USED WHEN, UH, AS AN ALTERNATE TO LETHAL, UM, WHEN WE HAVE BOTH OUT IN THE FIELD.
SO IF WE HAVE A BARRICADED SUBJECT THAT'S IN A VEHICLE, UM, THEY'RE REFUSING TO COME OUT, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A LETHAL OPTION BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CAPABILITIES OF THAT INDIVIDUAL ARE IN THAT CAR.
BUT WE'RE ALSO GONNA HAVE A LESS LETHAL OPTION AVAILABLE.
UM, AND THEN EVERY TIME WE USE THESE TOOLS, WE DOCUMENT THEM, THEY'RE REVIEWED BY THE INDEPENDENT POLICE AUDITOR, UM, THROUGH OUR COMMAND STAFF SO THAT WE UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, UM, WAS IT THE BEST CASE? WAS IT APPROPRIATE, WAS IT NECESSARY, UM, SO FORTH.
BUT, UH, TYPICALLY WE DON'T DEPLOY A LESS LETHAL SHOTGUN OR A 40 MILLIMETER WITHOUT A LETHAL COUNTERPART WITH THAT.
UM, BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE USING IT IN SPECIFIC SITUATIONS WHERE WE'RE NEGOTIATING WITH AN INDIVIDUAL.
SO WE TYPICALLY TRY TO RESOLVE THINGS AT THE LOWEST LEVEL, WHICH, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, COMMANDS VOICE, THEN HANDS, UM, AND, AND SO FORTH WORKING THROUGH THE DIFFERENT FORCE OPTIONS.
BUT WHEN WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT, THAT IS BARRICADED, THEN WE, WE, WE WILL DEPLOY THESE TOOLS GOING BACK TO THE LARGE VEHICLES.
UM, DOES THE DEPARTMENT KIND OF HAVE AN OPINION OF, OH, WE COULD USE IT, BUT WE, IF WE USE IT, THEN WE HAVE TO SAY THAT WE USED IT.
IS THERE KIND OF A SENTIMENT AROUND THE OFFICERS AND THE LEADERSHIP ABOUT PULLING IT OUT? BECAUSE I WONDER, COULD WE USE IT MORE? I MEAN, IF IT'S, IF THE COST OF USE IS, IS IS FAIRLY LOW AND, UM, IT'S BASICALLY JUST THE RENT, SHOULD WE BE USING IT MORE SINCE WE HAVE IT? OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD REALLY KEEP AWAY UNLESS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY? LIKE WHAT'S KIND OF THE THINKING OF THE DEPARTMENT OF WHERE THAT THRESHOLD IS, IS OF OKAY, WE SHOULD BRING IT OUT FOR SOMETHING THAT WE PROBABLY COULD GO WITHOUT IT.
BUT IS IT, DO YOU GUYS HAVE A POLICY OR IS IT KIND OF JUST EVERY SITUATION'S UNIQUE? YEAH, I WOULD SAY EVERY SITUATION IS UNIQUE AND OBVIOUSLY, UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE, WHERE THINGS ARE BETTER DEFINED IS THE USE OF OUR CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM WHERE IT WARRANTS A THREAT ASSESSMENT PRIOR TO DEPLOYMENT OF THE TEAM.
UM, AND USUALLY THE ARMOR VEHICLES ARE PART AND PARCEL WITH THAT.
THAT BEING SAID, UH, WE RECOGNIZE THAT THESE THINGS ARE, ARE NOT OFFENSIVE.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE BASICALLY THERE TO STOP BULLETS AND IF A SITUATION WARRANTS IT, WE'RE GONNA DEPLOY IT.
UM, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY IT'S EITHER TO KEEP OUR OFFICERS SAFE OR MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY SAFE.
YEAH, AND, AND I'LL JUST PIGGYBACK ON THAT TOO.
THAT'S DEFINITELY THE POSTURE OF THE ORGANIZATION, BUT AS THE POLICE CHIEF, I'M ALSO THE ONE THAT DOES FINAL SIGNATURE ON THE THREAT ASSESSMENT AND AN OPERATIONAL PLAN.
SOME OF THESE THINGS EVOLVE DYNAMICALLY AND WE HAVE A DISCUSSION OVER WHETHER TO ACTIVATE THE TEAM.
UM, BUT THERE'S ALSO, WHEN WE TALKED IN EARLY ON IN THE PRESENTATION, UH, LAST YEAR, WE TALKED ABOUT USE OF FORCE AND PENAL CODE 8 35 A.
AND SO THE REQUIREMENTS IN THAT WHEN YOU'RE GONNA USE FORCE OR THEIR, THE POTENTIAL FOR USING FORCE, AND THE JUSTIFICATION FOR DEPLOYING THAT IS HAVING A TACTICAL PLAN, HAVING UNITS ON SCENE USING DEESCALATION TIME, DISTANCE COVER, CONCEALMENT.
AND SO, UM, SPECIFIC TO THE ARMORED RESCUE VEHICLES, WHAT WE SAW MOST SPECIFICALLY IN LAST YEAR'S REPORT AT THAT INCIDENT INVOLVING THE, UH, BEST WESTERN OVER ON SOUTH MCDOWELL WAS WE WERE ABLE TO POSITION THAT VEHICLE DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF A HOTEL ROOM WHERE THE INDIVIDUAL WAS ARMED.
THEY SAID THEY SAW PASSING VEHICLES, MOTORISTS AND PEDESTRIANS, AND WERE GOING TO START SHOOTING AT THEM.
WE PARKED THE ARMORED VEHICLE DIRECTLY, UH, PERPENDICULAR TO THE FRONT OF THEIR HOTEL ROOM AND BLOCKED ALL OF WASHINGTON STREET, UM, AND MITIGATED THAT THREAT TO THE COMMUNITY.
I ALSO, UH, AS A POLICE CHIEF, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPERATIVE AND PARAMOUNT TO ME THAT IF WE HAVE A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT COULD BE UTILIZED THAT SAFELY
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RESOLVES THE INCIDENT OR ENSURES THAT MY STAFF OR THE COMMUNITY ARE SAFE, I'D BE REMISS AND WOULD HATE TO BE, UM, DEBRIEFING THE INCIDENT AND REGRETTING NOT USING IT.SO WHILE WE'RE SENSITIVE TO WHEN WE DEPLOY IT, I THINK WE'RE SENSITIVE TO HAVING IT JUST PARKED OPEN AIR AND, AND BEING A SYMBOL OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND WE KNOW THAT IT HAS THE OPTICS OF BEING IMPOSING AND INTIMIDATING, BUT WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT'S IT'S AN INVALUABLE TOOL IN THE RIGHT CIRCUMSTANCES, AND WE FEEL VERY STRONGLY THAT WE USE IT APPROPRIATELY, LAWFULLY AND REASONABLY.
BUT WHEN IT'S APPROPRIATE AND LAWFUL AND REASONABLE, WE DO INTEND TO USE IT AND TO USE IT THOUGHTFULLY AND FOR THE SAFETY OF, AGAIN, OUR STAFF AND OUR COMMUNITY.
IF YOU DON'T MIND MY JUST TAKING A SECOND ONLY BECAUSE I, UM, I, BY THE WAY, I LOOK BACK AND I, I REALLY DO STAND CORRECTED 'CAUSE IT WAS THE PRIOR, UM, IT WAS THE 2023 BECAUSE I DID A PUBLIC COMMENT REPORT.
WE, BEFORE OUR COMMITTEE WAS THERE TO THE, TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND I, I TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT, UM, UH, THE WHY, THE WHY BEHIND THE LEGISLATURE ENACTING, UM, 4 81 WAS THAT THE ACQUISITION AND MILITARY EQUIPMENT AND ITS DEPLOYMENT ADVERSELY IMPACTS THE PUBLIC SAFETY AND WELFARE, INCLUDING INCREASED RISKS OF CIVILIAN DEATHS, SIGNIFICANT RISKS TO CIVIL RIGHTS, CIVIL LIBERTIES, AND PHYSICAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL WELLBEING, AND INCUMBENT AN I INCREMENT OF SIGNIFICANT FINANCIAL COSTS.
AND THE FACT THAT MILITARY EQUIPMENT IS MORE FREQUENTLY DEPLOYED IN LOW INCOME, BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITIES, MEANING THE RISKS AND, UM, EMPHASIS AND I MEAN, THE RISKS AND IMPACTS OF POLICE MILITARIZATION ARE EXPERIENCED MOST ACUTELY IN MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES.
THIS IS A QUOTE FROM WHAT THE LEGISLATOR WROTE.
AND SO THAT'S WHY I'M SUPER SENSITIVE TO, TO THE PERSONAL ARMOR VEHICLES AND, YOU KNOW, BIG TANKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I JUST REMEMBER THE COMMUNITY LISTENING CIRCLES THAT LED TO OUR, OUR, OUR CREATION AND PEOPLE DIDN'T REALLY FELT, FELT LIKE IN, IN NON-WHITE COMMUNITIES THAT POLICE TREATED THEM DIFFERENTLY OR THEY HAD DIFFERENT EXPERIENCES WITH POLICE.
AND I FEEL LIKE WE HAD TO, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY AS ME AS A WHITE PERSON, HAD TO KEEP ON REMINDING MYSELF LIKE, THIS IS WHY I'M HERE.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT CLEAR.
YEAH, AND I THINK JUST REFOCUSING ON WHAT THE ASSEMBLY BILL AND THE LEGISLATION AND THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS ARE IS, SO ONE STEP IS HAVE A PUBLIC MEETING FOR FEEDBACK AND INPUT, HAVE A COMPLAINT PROCEDURE PROCESS, HAVE A REVIEW OF THESE INCIDENTS.
WE GET THE SECONDARY REVIEW THROUGH OUR PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS DIVISION AND THE INDEPENDENT POLICE AUDITOR THAT VALIDATES THAT, THAT IT WAS APPROPRIATE, IT WAS LAWFUL, IT WAS A REASONABLE CIRCUMSTANCE TO USE THE, THE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.
BUT WE ALSO IS THE ANNUAL APPROVAL.
SO BEFORE WE GET ANY NEW PIECES OF EQUIPMENT LIKE LAST YEAR TO ACQUIRE THE DRONES, EVEN THOUGH SOME OF THESE ARE READILY AVAILABLE THROUGH AMAZON TODAY, AND YOU COULD ALL CAN BE FLYING THEM IN YOUR PERSONAL LIVES TONIGHT WITH NO REGULATION, NO LICENSE AND NO REPORTING REQUIREMENTS, WE, WE WILL COMPLY WITH ALL THOSE THINGS, DO OUR REPORT.
UM, BUT THE COUNCIL ALSO HAS TO REAFFIRM THAT THERE'S CERTAIN CRITERIA FOR THESE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT TO BE NECESSARY FOR US TO CONTINUE USING THEM.
I THINK WHAT WE FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT AND AND THE NUANCE OF THIS AND, UH, IS AS WELL, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE ARMORED VEHICLES, WHY WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY DEPLOYMENTS THIS YEAR.
MAYBE IT'S THE CALIBER OF OUR STAFF MITIGATING THINGS ON THE FRONT END.
BUT I'VE ALSO BEEN HERE 20 YEARS.
UH, I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN ON SCENE FOR A NUMBER OF CRITICAL INCIDENTS IN OUR AGENCY.
UM, WE'VE SUPPORTED OTHER REGIONAL PARTNERS, AND I CAN SAY THAT, THAT THOSE THINGS DO HAPPEN IN THIS COMMUNITY, AND I AM, I'M, I'M, UM, GRATEFUL THAT THEY'RE INFREQUENT AND RARE.
UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT I THINK IS, IS NECESSARY AND WE JUST, AGAIN, WE TRY TO BE INCREDIBLY THOUGHTFUL ABOUT WHEN WE USE IT, WHERE IT'S USED, HOW IT'S USED, AND AND LIMITED TO THOSE, THOSE REALLY SELECT CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE IT'S AN EMERGENCY, IT'S SERIOUS.
AND I THINK YOU'VE SEEN FROM HOW WE'VE REPORTED IN THE TYPE OF FELONY CRIMES, THEIR CRIMES OF VIOLENCE, THEIR, THEIR, THEIR SIGNIFICANT EVENTS.
UM, AND, AND SO THE COUNSEL WILL HEAR THOSE THINGS AND MAKE THOSE CONSIDERATIONS AND, AND THEIR, THEIR ADOPTION AND, AND ULTIMATE RESOLUTION OF, OF THAT, UM, REPORT WHEN IT GOES BEFORE THEM LATER THIS YEAR.
I'M GONNA TRY AND KEEP US MOVING FORWARD.
UM, I'D LIKE TO OPEN PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE PRESENTATION ITEM AND ASK SPEAKERS TO BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARDS TO THE CLERK'S DESK IF THEY HAVE NOT ALREADY.
UH, CLERK, HAVE WE RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS?
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THERE HAVE BEEN NO ONLINE COMMENTS, BUT I THINK WE HAVE ONE COMING IN FROM IN-HOUSE.MS. STO, WHY DON'T YOU JUST, UH, PROCEED AND THEN WE CAN FILL IT OUT AFTER THAT WOULD WORK.
I THINK WE'RE A THOUGHTFUL SUMMARY.
UM, AND I, I'LL, I I I'VE ONLY THE, THE CLOCK'S TICKING, UM, APROPOS DRONES, IT'S, UM, IMPRESSIVE.
HOWEVER, RESOURCEFUL AND RESPONSIVE, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY IS IN APPLYING THESE NEW THINGS, AND IT'S SOMETHING NEW FOR THE PUBLIC TO ENCOUNTER.
AND I'M CURIOUS WHAT, UM, WHAT'S BEING DONE TO SORT OF MITIGATE AN INTIMIDATION FACTOR AROUND, YOU KNOW, NOW WHAT'S, YOU KNOW, COMING, UM, BECAUSE, UH, ESPECIALLY NOW WHEN, WHEN THESE ARE TRULY, YOU KNOW, WEAPONS OF WARFARE DELIVERING MUNITIONS INTERNATIONALLY, AND THESE ARE DISTURBING TIMES, UH, POLITICALLY, I, I I, THERE THERE MIGHT BE SOME SENSITIVITY AROUND THAT.
UH, MY OTHER QUESTION, UH, SURROUNDED, UM, SPECIFIC ACQUISITION, AND PERHAPS THIS HAS BEEN ADDRESSED, I'M SORRY, I DON'T KNOW, UM, IS, ARE THERE MUTUAL AID OPPORTUNITIES? DO OTHER, UH, JURISDICTIONS HAVE, UH, PERHAPS MORE EXPERIENCE OR MORE NEED FOR SOME OF THESE SPECIALIZED TECHNOLOGIES OR NOT? UH, FINALLY, OR NO, TWO MORE.
I'M, UM, CURIOUS, LIKE WHAT'S ON A, A WISHLIST AND I GATHER THE, THE BEARCAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S KINDA LIKE, THAT'D BE KIND OF COOL TO HAVE IF WE COULD.
UM, UH, AND I, I'M ALSO CURIOUS HOW, UH, GIVEN, UH, THE INCREASING CONSOLIDATION OF, UH, FIRE SERVICES AND AS, UM, THEY'RE KIND OF BEEFING UP THEIR, UM, CONTRIBUTIONS IN, IN A CRITICAL RESPONSE SCENARIO.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT'S THE BALANCE HERE? IF THAT, IF THAT QUESTION MAKES SENSE, AND I CAN ELABORATE ON THAT IF IT DOESN'T.
FINALLY, I'M CURIOUS WHAT THE TRAINING BURDEN IS, AND I, I WAS SO, UM, UH, STRUCK AND TOUCHED AND REMINDED OF, UH, WHEN, WHEN CHIEF MILLER SAID, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE, WE TEND NOT TO ENCOUNTER THIS OFTEN BECAUSE MAYBE WE'RE REALLY GOOD AT DEESCALATING.
AND THAT'S JUST THE KIND OF PEOPLE WE ARE AND THE KIND OF TEAM WE HAVE.
AND, UH, BUT I'M WONDERING WHAT KIND OF TRAINING BURDEN KIND OF EXCITED, SORRY, WHAT KIND OF TRAINING BURDEN IS PRESENTED IN, IN COMING UP TO CAPABILITY? UH, BECAUSE THIS IS VERY DOCUMENTED.
UH, THERE, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE ARE STANDARDS THAT HAVE TO BE MET.
OH, WOW, I'VE GOTTA TALK FAST.
IT IT, WHEN WE LEARN HOW TO USE THIS SPECIALIZED EQUIPMENT, WHAT AREN'T WE LEARNING HOW TO DO? LIKE WHAT, WHAT, THAT'S ALL.
UH, WOULD ANYONE LIKE ON THE COMMITTEE OR ANY STAFF LIKE TO RESPOND, UH, TRY TO CAPTURE MOST OF THIS? SO IN TERMS OF, UH, MITIGATING INTIMIDATION FACTORS, I THINK ONE OF THE POINTS TO HIGHLIGHT, AND I BROUGHT IT UP DURING THE, UH, THE PRESENTATION IS THE FACT THAT, UH, ANYTIME WE A A HELICOPTER'S DEPLOYED IN OUR COMMUNITY, WE GET NUMEROUS CALLS ABOUT WHAT'S THE HELICOPTER DOING, UH, WHAT'S GOING ON.
UM, WITH THE DRONES, WE HAVEN'T EXPERIENCED THAT.
'CAUSE MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THEY'RE THERE.
DRONES ARE COMMERCIALLY AVAILABLE.
UM, TO CHIEF MILLER'S POINT, IF ANOTHER CITY DEPARTMENT USES A DRONE, THEY DON'T REPORT, THEY DON'T HAVE TO REPORT IT, THEY DON'T HAVE TO BRING IT TO COUNCIL.
UM, BUT IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE DOING TO, UH, EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ON OUR USE OF THE DRONES, YOU, YOU'LL SEE OFTENTIMES WHEN WE USE THE DRONES AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE USED, OUR SOCIAL MEDIA WILL, WILL POST ABOUT THAT AND HOW THEY'VE BEEN USED.
UM, I SPECIFICALLY RECALL THE ARREST OF A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SUSPECT WHO HAD FLED FROM THE HOUSE, AND THERE WAS A POSTING ON THAT, UM, MEETINGS SUCH AS THIS IN TERMS OF US TALKING ABOUT THAT AS YOUR CONDUITS, THE COMMUNITY, UM, PRESENTATIONS TO COUNCIL, AND THEN OUR, OUR DISPLAY DAY, WHICH OUR DRONES WILL BE OUT THERE.
UM, IN TERMS OF MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL, UM, WE, WE OFTEN WORK CLOSELY WITH OUR LOCAL PARTNERS AND, UM, MUCH OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE IS SIMILAR TO WHAT THEY'RE USING.
UM, WE DON'T HAVE THE ONE-OFF WHERE, UM, WE'RE NOT REALLY THE OUTLIERS, SO
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THEY'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE EQUIPMENT.UM, WE DO, WE DO, UM, THE CHIEF MENTIONED THE INCIDENT LAST YEAR IN THE LAST REPORTING CYCLE WHERE WE ASSISTED WITH SANTA ROSA PD.
SO WE ARE WORKING TOGETHER COLLABORATIVELY WITH OUR, UH, MARK, OUR JURISDICTIONAL PARTNERS.
UM, OUR SWAT TEAM DOES AN ANNUAL TRAINING, UH, WITH A NUMBER OF OTHER, UM, AGENCIES THROUGHOUT THE, THE, NOT ONLY THE COUNTY, BUT THE REGION, UH, WHICH IS HOSTED BY THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT WHERE THEY CAN COLLABORATE AND TALK ABOUT, UM, WHAT THEY'RE EXPERIENCING.
UM, IN TERMS OF, UH, WISHLIST, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE BEARCAT, UH, WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE ARMORED PERSONNEL CARRIERS, A BEARCAT OR A COMMERCIALLY READILY A AVAIL AVAILABLE, UH, ARMORED VEHICLE THAT IS SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT WOULD BE IDEAL.
THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT DRAWBACKS TO THE ARMORED PERSONNEL CARRIERS THAT WE HAVE.
UM, THE HEIGHT WAS MENTIONED, UM, THERE'S SOME AREAS THEY'RE NOT, NOT MEANT TO BE PROVIDING COVER, UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE SO HIGH OFF THE GROUND, SO OFFICERS HAVE TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE BEHIND THE WHEELS PER SE, WHICH AREN'T NECESSARILY BALLISTIC.
BUT, UM, SO YES, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
UM, BUT WE RECOGNIZE WHERE THE, WHERE, WHERE WE'RE AT FINANCIALLY.
UM, IN TERMS OF A TRAINING BURDEN, UH, WE SPOKE A LOT IN OUR, UH, PRESENTATION ABOUT THE ANNUAL REPORT, ABOUT THE NUMBER OF HOURS AND THE COST OF OUR TRAINING.
UM, AND WE, WE TAKE PRIDE IN THE FACT THAT WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME, UM, AND UNFORTUNATELY WE'RE TAKING YOUNG OFFICERS AND TRY TO EXPEDITE THEIR LEARNING PROCESS AND INVESTING HEAVILY IN OUR OFFICERS IN THE PROFESSIONALISM IN THE TRAINING, AND SPECIFICALLY HIGHLIGHTING DEESCALATION IN THINGS THAT CAN BE, CAN KEEP, UM, COMMUNITY MEMBERS SAFE.
AND I THINK, I THINK THAT WAS TOUCHED ON EVERYTHING, HOPEFULLY FOR THOSE QUESTIONS.
YEAH, I'LL JUST, I'LL ADD A COUPLE, COUPLE CAVEATS ON THOSE.
SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, AND IF I THINK THE LIEUTENANT ALREADY MENTIONED, BUT, UH, OUR POLICY AND OUR MILITARY EQUIPMENT, UH, AUTHORIZATION EXPLICITLY PROHIBITS US FROM USING ANY WEAPONIZED DRONES OR ROBOTS.
SO ANY OF OUR UNMANNED DEVICES ARE BASICALLY VIDEO CAMERAS AND THERMAL IMAGERY.
UM, SO THEY, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR THERE, THERE'S REFERENCES IN YES, MANY OTHER PLACES IN THE WORLD ARE USING THEM DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'RE USING THEM.
THEY'RE A TOOL TO HELP US WITH INCREASED SITUATIONAL AWARENESS.
WE'VE USED THEM MORE OFTEN WITH, UH, SUSPECT LOCATION AND MISSING PERSONS.
I WANTED TO TOUCH ON THE MUTUAL AID PIECE BECAUSE WE DID HAVE AN EXAMPLE WHERE WE USED, UH, QUALIFYING MILITARY EQUIPMENT IN YEARS PAST THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE AT THE TIME.
AND AT THAT TIME IT WAS A DRONE WHERE WE HAD TO HAVE ALL THE SEARCH AND RESCUE TEAM FROM THE SONOMA COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE DOWN TO THE BOWLING ALLEY, AND THEY USED THEIR DRONE TO DO A GRID SEARCH UP IN THE COUNTRY CLUB IN QUARRY HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOODS.
BECAUSE OF THAT TIME, WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT THE PROCESS, IF WE WANT TO, UM, AND WE HAVE A RAPIDLY EVOLVING SITUATION WHERE WE NEED WHATEVER PIECE OF EQUIPMENT RIGHT THEN AND THERE, UM, WE HAVE THE AUTONOMY TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS AND MAKE THOSE REQUESTS TO THOSE ALLIED PARTNERS THAT MAY HAVE THAT EQUIPMENT.
BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO NOTIFY THE COUNCIL WITHIN, UH, A MATTER OF DAYS THAT WE HAD THIS INCIDENT.
THIS IS A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT WAS UTILIZED.
IT WAS OUTSIDE OF WHAT WE HAVE APPROVALS TO POSSESS, BUT THESE ARE THE CIRCUMSTANCES WHY, AND IT'S REVIEWED AND IT'S ENCAPSULATED IN THE REPORT.
I ALSO THINK THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S UNIQUE ABOUT US, AND IT'S DIFFICULT TO COMPARE AGENCIES TO AGENCIES ABOUT, WELL, WHY DOES ROANOKE PARK HAVE DIFFERENT EQUIPMENT LISTED THAN PETALUMA? WE, IN SONOMA COUNTY ARE ONE OF THREE FULL SERVICE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES, AND BY FULL SERVICE, WE HAVE A CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM, WHICH IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE GENERALLY THROUGH A MUTUAL AID, IF YOU NEED A SWAT TEAM TO COME IN AND YOU DON'T HAVE ONE, THAT AGENCY WILL COME IN AND THEY HAVE TACTICAL COMMAND OVER YOUR INCIDENT.
YOU LOSE AUTONOMY OF SOME DECISION MAKING IN THOSE SITUATIONS.
SO WE FEEL IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT'S, IT'S IN INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT THAT WE RETAIN THOSE DECISION MAKING AUTHORITIES AND, AND MANAGE OUR INCIDENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, AND SO THERE'S ALSO, YOU KNOW, IN MARIN COUNTY, THERE'S A JOINT TACTICAL TEAM IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, BUT THERE'S VERY FEW FULL SERVICE CITIES IN OUR REGION.
SO SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE MAY BE DIFFERENT FROM SONOMA STATE PD OR HEALDSBURG PD OR KA PD BECAUSE WE HAVE AN ACTIVATED TEAM THAT HAS HEIGHTENED TRAINING, HEIGHTENED, UM, EXPERIENCE, AND HAS HEIGHTENED ABILITY TO, UM, RESPOND TO AND HANDLE ESCALATED INCIDENTS TO A DIFFERENT DEGREE THAN SOME OF OUR COUNTERPARTS IN THE REGION.
MAYBE OUT ORDER HAVE A QUESTION OR A FINAL OBSERVATION, AND IF I KNOW ORDER, I'LL DEFER
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TO THE CHAIR, BUT YEAH, UH, GO AHEAD.UM, THIS MAY BE A LINGUISTIC, A LABELING PHENOMENON, BUT I CAN'T BE THE ONLY WOMAN IN THE ROOM WHO'S A LITTLE TAKEN ABACK BY THE DISCUSSION OF UNMANNED THIS AND THAT.
AND I REALIZE WE CALL THIS UNMANNED, BUT PERHAPS THERE IS ANOTHER WAY IN, IN MAKING THIS AS, UM, MORE PUBLIC FACING.
I, I LIKE THAT PHRASE YOU USED JUST, UH, UH, TO, TO BE A LITTLE GENDER SENSITIVE AROUND THAT BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BRING UP SOME HACKLES AND ESPECIALLY NOW BECAUSE WE'RE IN SOME, UM, UNUSUAL TIMES, UM, RIGHT NOW AND, AND I THINK SOME SENSITIVITY DIRECTED THAT WAY MIGHT BE USEFUL.
UH, I THINK IT WAS JUST LIKE THE MILITARY EQUIPMENT VERNACULAR.
WE WOULD LOVE TO REFER TO A LOT OF THESE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT DIFFERENTLY.
IT'S JUST HOW THE LEGISLATION DEFINES IT.
AND SO WE'RE USING THE LEGAL, THE LEGAL DEFINITIONS AND, UH, I REFLECT ON, UH, WE ALL WENT TO THE SAME POLICE ACADEMY HERE IN THE REGION, AND ONE OF THE PROFESSORS ALWAYS TALKS ABOUT THE LAWS AND ALWAYS, RIGHT.
AND, UH, SO THOSE ARE THE, THE TERMS THAT WE UNFORTUNATELY ARE, ARE REFERRED TO, BUT WE UTILIZE MORE COMMONLY AND WE'LL PROBABLY SLIP AND YOU'LL HEAR US REFER TO THEM AS JUST DRONES.
THE COMMON COMMON, UH, VERBIAGE IS, IS THE PUBLIC'S MUCH MORE ACCUSTOMED TO, I DO THINK THOUGH THAT, UM, I THOUGHT IT WAS FANTASTIC TO HEAR HOW YOU SAID THAT THE DRONES ARE NOT LETHAL.
AND, UH, AND AGAIN, SORT OF FEEDBACK FOR THE SLIDE, IF THIS, THIS IS, IF THIS IS GONNA BE PUBLIC FACING IN ANY WAY, THE MINUTE YOU LINK THE WORD MILITARY AND DRONE TOGETHER, PEOPLE ARE GONNA START TO MAKE THAT ASSOCIATION.
AND SO THE MORE YOU CAN PUT INTO THE SLIDE THAT THESE ARE NOT WEAPONIZED, THEY HAVE NO OFFENSIVE CAPABILITIES, THEY'RE SURVEILLANCE ONLY, LIKE THE MORE YOU CAN HAMMER THAT OWN, I THINK HOME, I THINK THE MORE YOU CAN SORT OF BREAK THAT LINKAGE THAT PEOPLE ARE GONNA HAVE.
AND, AND AGAIN, THAT SORT OF TRAUMA AND FEAR THAT'S GONNA COME WITH THAT.
AND I BELIEVE ALL OF 'EM ARE COMMERCIALLY AVAILABLE THAT ANY ONE OF US CAN BUY ONE.
THERE'S, THERE'S ONE WE HAVE, IT'S A, UH, IT'S A TACTICAL DRONE.
I'M, I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE THAT THE PUBLIC CAN BUY IT, BUT THERE'S AGAIN, NO OFFENSIVE CAPABILITY.
UM, IT'S, IT'S SPECIFICALLY USED TO FLY INDOORS, WHICH WE HAVEN'T USED IN AN OPERATIONAL SETTING YET, BUT LIKE THE MOST MAJORITY OF 'EM ARE DDJI DRONES THAT ANYONE CAN BUY.
UH, IF THAT'S IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UH, FOR ALL OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
THAT WAS A REALLY GREAT, UH, CONVERSATION ON A TOPIC THAT I KNOW IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO A LOT OF US.
I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS, UM, PATIENCE AND FOLLOW THROUGH ON THAT.
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I'D LIKE TO MOVE ON TO THE PSAC ANNUAL REPORT COMMITTEE MEMBER INPUT.I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE THE PSAC ANNUAL REPORT COMMITTEE MEMBER INPUT PRESENTATION AND EMPHASIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF CONTINUOUS INPUT FROM THE COMMITTEE TO ENSURE THE REPORT REFLECTS THE FULL SCOPE OF PS A'S WORK PRIORITIES AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
AT THIS POINT, I'D LIKE TO CALL ON THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO PROVIDE COMMENTS AND INPUT.
THIS IS THE SECTION FOR YOU GUYS TO BRING UP.
ANYTHING YOU WANT TO BRING UP? UM, I, I, I, I SAW WHAT YOU WROTE AND, UM, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I, I DO WANNA HOPE THAT YOU, THAT WE INCLUDE THAT IN TERMS OF CHALLENGES AND LESSONS.
WE TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT LAST WEEK, THAT, THAT WE ACTUALLY WRITE IN THE REPORT THAT A LOT OF US FELT LIKE WHEN WE'RE GETTING THE, UM, THE RACIAL DATA, DATA THAT'S COMING FROM A USE OF FORCE, SHOW OF FORCE, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, THAT IT'S, HAS BASICALLY BEEN IMPOSSIBLE TO DISCERN, IS THIS A DISPARITY? IS THIS A BIAS? 'CAUSE THERE'S NOT A, A WAY TO FI FIGURE THAT OUT.
AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOLVABLE, BUT AGAIN, 'CAUSE I THINK THAT'S A LOT OF WHY WE'RE HERE IS TO BE FO LIKE FOCUSING ON KIND OF THAT KIND OF THING.
IT'S VERY, THAT'S FOR, AT LEAST FOR ME, THAT'S THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE I'M FINDING SITTING HERE MONTHLY.
I GUESS MAYBE I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE COMMITTEE.
I KNOW THAT ONE OF THE LAST, UH, FROM THE LAST MEETING, UH, MAYBE FOR THE, THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC, UM, TUNING IN IS, IS THE DIRECTION FROM THE COMMITTEE WAS TO, UM, PROVIDE INPUT EMAIL CONTENT TO THE DEPUTY CHIEF, AND WE WILL BE WORKING TO COMPILE THAT FEEDBACK.
SO, UM, AS WE GO THROUGH AND BUILD THE, ASSIST THE COMMITTEE IN, IN COMPILING YOUR ANNUAL REPORT.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THE DEPUTY CHIEF, IF YOU'VE
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RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS, WE STILL ARE AWAITING THOSE, AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S ALSO MEANT TO BE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THOSE COMMENTS AS YOU MEANT, UM, MADE COMMITTEE MEMBER OB SETLER TO, AND I MIGHT BE WRONG, BUT I KIND OF REMEMBERED THAT THERE WAS A JUNE 24TH, BUT I KIND OF CROSSED THAT OFF BECAUSE THEN WE DECIDED, WELL, WE HAVE, THERE'S THINGS THAT WE HAVE TIME LIMITS ON, BUT THIS WE DIDN'T, AND THAT, THAT IT WOULD JUST BE KIND OF GOING ON.AND SO I JUST LIKE LOOKING AT, LOOKING AT WHAT, WHAT YOU PUT OUT, UM, FOR TODAY THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU WERE SAYING PREPARED TO TALK ABOUT ACCOMPLISHMENTS, WHICH I DON'T KIND OF, I'M NOT PREPARED TO TALK, LIKE, SAY ANYTHING ON THAT, BUT ON THE CHALLENGES I WAS, SO THAT I THOUGHT THAT WE'RE JUST GONNA BE TAKING IN INFORMATION AS WE'RE GOING ALONG ON THESE THINGS.
AND, AND WE, WE TOOK THAT OFF THE TABLE FOR THE JUNE 24TH, AND I'M SORRY IF I GOT THAT WRONG.
I THINK THIS IS MORE MEANT TO BE MORE OF A CHECK-IN AND CONTINUING THAT IN THE, IN THE BACKGROUND IS YOU'RE CONTINUING TO KIND OF DIGEST AND PROCESS WHAT SOME APPROPRIATE FEEDBACK WOULD BE FOR THAT.
AND STAFF'S READY FOR THAT DIRECTION AND CAN, CAN BE WORKING IN THE BACKGROUND TO BRING AND, AND ENCAPSULATE ALL THOSE COMMENTS, UH, WHEN THEY'RE, WHEN THEY'RE READY.
DEPUTY CHIEF, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER FURTHER COMMENTS? YEAH, JUST TO CLARIFY, SO WE PUSHED THE ANNUAL REPORT FROM THE JUNE 20, 24 DATE TO, UM, THE FOLLOW THE CALENDAR YEAR, UH, WHEN WE HAVE NEW, UM, COUNSEL LIAISON AND SO FORTH.
SO THE, THE FIRST REPORT WILL BE AN 18 MONTH, UH, REPORT.
SO THE FIRST YEAR AND A HALF OF INCEPTION.
UM, FROM THERE, EACH MEETING WILL HAVE DIALOGUE TO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITY FOR FEEDBACK AND INPUT ON WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE CAPTURED IN THAT ANNUAL REPORT.
UM, IF SOMETHING COMES UP THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO EMAIL OR THERE'S SOME SPECIFIC CONTENT YOU WANT WRITTEN IN THERE, THEN UM, OBVIOUS THE BEST FORM WOULD BE JUST TO SEND ME THAT, THAT EMAIL.
AND THEN I WILL INCORPORATE IT.
THE REPORT WILL THEN BE BROUGHT BACK, UM, ONCE IT'S COMPLETED FOR REVIEW AND INPUT.
UM, AND THEN WE'LL DISCUSS IN TERMS OF HOW WE'RE GONNA TRANSMIT THAT TO COUNCIL, UM, AT A FURTHER DATE.
AND I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT THE LIAISON POSITION IS FOR TWO YEARS BECAUSE THE MAYOR HAD, UM, PUT ALL OF US IN OUR NEW POSITION FOR TWO YEARS LAST JANUARY TO MAKE IT.
'CAUSE THE COUNCIL DOESN'T CHANGE IN, THERE'S NO ELECTION UNTIL 2026, SO MOST LIKELY YOU'RE STUCK WITH ME THROUGH
THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
UM, I THOUGHT IT WAS A ANNUAL BASED ON POST A CASE SHORT TERM, BUT THAT MAKES SENSE SINCE HE WAS NOT, UH, RETURNING AS A COUNCIL MEMBER.
AND THAT'S WHAT THE MAYOR, WE KNEW THAT WAS GONNA BE THIS SITUATION, UM, BECAUSE HE WASN'T GOING TO RERUN FOR OFFICE.
I KNOW I BRING THIS UP EVERY TIME, BUT I'LL JUST BRING IT UP ONE MORE TIME.
UM, I THINK HAVING SOME SORT OF, UM, PETALUMA PROVIDED EMAIL ADDRESSES AND WAYS FOR THE COMMUNITY TO REACH OUT TO US AS COMMUNITY MEMBERS WOULD BE REALLY VALUABLE.
I KNOW I HAD A FEW NEIGHBORS OVER AT MY HOUSE, UH, A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO TO SORT OF TALK ABOUT PUBLIC POLICING AND COMMUNITY MATTERS.
AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME UP AGAIN, WAS SORT OF LIKE, IF WE WANTED TO REACH OUT TO YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW, IF WE DIDN'T WANNA REACH OUT TO THE INDEPENDENT AUDITOR AND WE DIDN'T WANT TO FEEL COM IF WE DIDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE REACHING OUT TO THE INDEPENDENT AUDITOR AND DIDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE REACHING OUT TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, HOW DO WE GET AHOLD OF YOU GUYS OUTSIDE OF, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY WHO KNOWS SOMEBODY OR HAPPEN TO HAVE SOMEONE'S PERSONAL EMAIL ADDRESS OR PHONE NUMBER.
SO I KNOW THAT THERE'S REASONS WHY THAT HAS BEEN DIFFICULT, BUT I JUST WANNA REITERATE AGAIN, I THINK IT WOULD HELP BOTH THE COMMITTEE'S COMMUNICATION WITH EACH OTHER AND ALSO HELP OUR OUTREACH TO THE COMMUNITY IF WE HAD SOME SORT OF CITY PROVIDED, UM, COMMUNICATION.
UM, PORTAL OUR, OUR EMAIL ADDRESS, PERSONAL EMAIL ADDRESSES ON THE WEBSITE.
THEY ARE, YES, YOUR, UH, PERSONAL EMAIL ADDRESSES ARE LISTED ON THE WEBSITE.
AND, AND I KNOW I AM, I HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANYTHING ON THE, THIS COMMITTEE AS A COUNCIL MEMBER AND I RECEIVE PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL RECEIVES AND IT GOES THROUGH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
UH, IF THAT'S, UH, UNLESS THERE'S ANY MORE INPUT FOR THAT SECTION, I'M GONNA KEEP US MOVING ALONG AT THIS POINT.
OUR NEXT TOPIC WILL BE THE, UH, PSAC LONG RANGE CALENDAR, UH, LONG RANGE CALENDAR REGARDING UPCOMING MEETING DATES AND OUR POTENTIAL AGENDA ITEMS. I'D LIKE TO CALL IT A COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO PROVIDE COMMENTS, REPORT OUT ON EVENTS ATTENDED, AND BRING FORWARD FUTURE AGENDA TOPICS.
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SO I, I'M GOOD WITH THE, WHAT, WHAT WE HAVE PLANNED OUT FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR AT THIS POINT.UM, I WILL BE GONE FOR THE AUGUST MEETING, UNFORTUNATELY, BUT I WILL ALSO BE GONE AT THE AUGUST MEETING AND I HAVE A FEELING JULIA WILL TOO.
SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, UH,
I HAVE NO IDEA HOW I WILL FEEL OR BE, I, I MEAN, I DON'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT JULY.
I I WILL KEEP EVERYONE POSTED
MAY I, UH, MAKE A COMMENT? SO JUST, UH, FOR AWARENESS, IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A MED, A MEETING THAT, UM, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A QUORUM OR THERE'S GONNA BE MULTIPLE CONFLICTS.
THE, UH, GUIDING LEGISLATION ON THIS COMMITTEE ONLY REQUIRES THAT WE MEET EVERY OTHER MONTH.
SO IF FOR THE, FOR SOME REASON AUGUST IS A MONTH THAT, UM, IS NOT GONNA WORK FOR, UM, THE COMMITTEE, THEN WE CAN, WE DON'T HAVE TO MEET EVERY CONSECUTIVE MONTH.
LET'S, UM, LET'S DEFINITELY THINK ABOUT THAT AT THE NEXT MEETING.
IF WE STILL FEEL LIKE WE MAY NOT HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE FOR AUGUST, WE CAN, WE CAN PULL THE TRIGGER ON THAT.
UH, ONE THING THAT I WOULDN'T MIND, UM, EITHER THROWING ON THE AGENDA OR IF SOMETHING THAT JUST CAME UP IN THE PRESENTATION TODAY, IT WAS EVIDENCE.COM, THE SORT OF SECURE SYSTEM FOR BOTH BODY CAM FOOTAGE AND FOR DRONE FOOTAGE.
I'D LOVE TO MAYBE HAVE A CONVERSATION AT SOME POINT ABOUT LIKE WHERE, I KNOW IT'S, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S SECURE, IT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING ONLY THE POLICE AND, AND POSSIBLY THE AUDITOR WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO.
LIKE, I'D LOVE TO TALK THROUGH LIKE IF THERE WAS AN INCIDENT OR SOMETHING.
WOULD THIS COUNCIL HAVE ACCESS TO ANYTHING OFF OF THAT? GO AHEAD, COUNCILMAN.
UH, SO, UH, MR. CHAIR, I BELIEVE OUR OCTOBER MEETING IS THE BODY-WORN CAMERA POLICY AND MAYBE WE CAN ADD THAT TO THAT DISCUSSION.
DOES THAT, DOES THAT WORK? YEAH.
GOT SOMETHING RIGHT TODAY, LIKE A BROKEN CLOCK.
OKAY, THEN, UM, I'LL KEEP MOVING US FORWARD.
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UP IS IPA COMMENT, UM, PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMITTEE, MONTHLY STATS CHART.I'D LIKE TO CALL ON THE IPA TO PROVIDE COMMENTS ON THE MONTHLY STATS AND INTRODUCE IPA DENISE LEWIS.
UM, YOU HAVE ME AGAIN THIS MONTH.
JEFF PROMISES HE WILL BE HERE NEXT MONTH.
UM, YOU SHOULD HAVE THE STATS CHART WITH YOUR MATERIALS AND I'LL JUST KIND OF RUN THROUGH THEM.
IT'S KIND OF BEEN A, UM, LOW KEY MONTH, AS IN WE'RE JUST CONTINUING TO MEET WITH THE DEPARTMENT AND REVIEW CASES.
AND WE HAVE SOME PRETTY HEALTHY DISCUSSIONS, UM, WITH WHEN DURING OUR REVIEWS, WE, WE REVIEWED, UH, WELL LEMME START WITH, USES A FORCE AND WE REVIEWED NINE CASES, UH, DURING MAY.
AS A REMINDER, THIS IS JUNE, BUT WE'RE REPORTING FOR THE MONTH PRIOR.
THERE ARE, THERE WERE 13, UH, CASES PENDING THAT HADN'T GONE THROUGH THE REVIEW PROCESS TO US AT AS OF JUNE 1ST.
AND AGAIN, A REMINDER THAT SOME OF THOSE COULD BE A DISPLAY OF FORCE VERSUS A, A USE OF FORCE.
UM, THE DEPARTMENT REVIEWED EIGHT OF THOSE, AND OR NOT OF THOSE, BUT EIGHT INCIDENTS.
SO SOME OF THOSE EIGHT COULD HAVE HAPPENED A MONTH AGO OR TWO MONTHS AGO.
WE REVIEWED NINE AND OUT OF THE THOSE REVIEWS AND DISCUSSIONS, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY, UM, NEEDED AGREED UPON COURSE OF ACTION.
SO THERE WERE NO, UM, OUTCOMING RECOMMENDATIONS OUT OF THAT TYPICALLY, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION OR A POINT OF REFERENCE THERE.
UM, OFTEN WHAT WE'RE FINDING IS THAT THE DEPARTMENT SUPERVISORS HAVE ALREADY IDENTIFIED ANY ISSUES, TRAINING POINTS, AND, AND THEY DOCUMENT WHAT THEY DID ABOUT THAT, WHETHER IT WAS A DISCUSSION WITH THE OFFICER OR WHATEVER.
SO THAT'S WHY THERE WOULD BE NO ACA BECAUSE THE DEPARTMENT'S ALREADY DONE WHAT THEY NEEDED TO DO, WHICH IS A GOOD THING.
UH, MOVING TO PURSUITS, YOU CAN SEE THERE WERE FOUR PENDING.
THERE WAS ONLY ONE NEW ONE IN, UH, MAY.
THE DEPARTMENT PUSHED, REVIEWED AND PUSHED TWO OF THEM TO US.
WE REVIEWED ONE PURSUIT, AND AGAIN, THERE WERE NO AGREED UPON COURSE OF ACTION NEEDED WITH REGARD TO COMPLAINTS.
NOW THOSE INCLUDE, UM, THE INTERNAL COMPLAINTS, EXTERNAL COMPLAINTS FROM OUTSIDE THE DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS IAS, THE, UH, THE MORE SERIOUS GUY.
SO THOSE TEND TO TAKE A LITTLE LONGER.
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THERE WERE NINE PENDING FROM THE PRIOR PERIODS.ONE NEW COMPLAINT, ONE WAS REVIEWED BY THE DEPARTMENT AND PUSHED TO US, AND WE DID NOT COMPLETE THAT REVIEW AS OF THE END OF, UH, MAY.
SO OBVIOUSLY THERE WERE NO ACAS.
AND THAT'S KIND OF IT AS FAR AS MY REPORT, UNLESS ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS FOR US.
SHORT AND SWEET, NO QUESTIONS FROM US.
AND AT THIS POINT I'D LIKE TO MOVE US ON TO STAFF, COMMENT AND ASK CHIEF MILLER AND STAFF IF THEY HAVE ANY STAFF COMMENTS.
YEAH, JUST A QUICK FEW, UH, NOTES AND A COUPLE COUPLE PLUGS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN MENTIONED.
SO AGAIN, JULY 8TH, I BELIEVE AT FIVE O'CLOCK AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS OUR MILITARY EQUIPMENT EXPO TO SEE OUR TWO PIECES OF MILITARY EQUIPMENT AND ALL THE OTHER NON CO, NON-MILITARY EQUIPMENT ITEMS THAT ARE DESIGNATED IN THIS REPORT.
TRYING TO HIGHLIGHT THAT AS MENTIONED, UH, AUGUST 5TH AT FOUR O'CLOCK AT THE PETALUMA FAIRGROUNDS IS PETALUMA NIGHT OUT.
WE'LL HAVE SOME OF OUR SAFETY EQUIPMENT THERE, BUT MORE OF OUR STAFF AND SERVICE PROVIDERS AND PREVENTATIVE PROGRAMS. UH, I BELIEVE WE ALSO EMAILED THIS COMMITTEE EARLIER LAST WEEK WITH AN INVITATION IF THE COMMITTEE WOULD LIKE TO USE THAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TO ATTEND THE EVENT.
WE'RE HAPPY TO PROVIDE TABLES AND CHAIRS AND LET YOU TABLE TALK WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS ABOUT YOUR ROLE.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE JUST WENT THROUGH A CITYWIDE INITIATIVE OF RECRUITING FOR OUR COMMITTEES, COMMISSIONS AND BOARDS.
AND WE MAY BE IN THAT POSITION WHERE SOME OF THE TERMS ARE COMING UP NEXT YEAR.
SO IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO GET OUT THERE AND SOLICIT AND RECRUIT.
UM, FOR, FOR THOSE YOU MAY BE, UH, UH, HANDING OFF YOUR ROLES TO, UH, AUGUST 9TH, WE ARE LAUNCHING A SPANISH LANGUAGE COMMUNITY ACADEMY.
UH, SO LIEUTENANT RIVERA, SERGEANT ESTELLA AND OUR OTHER BILINGUAL STAFF ARE HOSTING THAT.
WE HAVE HAD LIMITED INTERESTS FROM THE COMMUNITY AT THIS TIME, SO WE'RE HOPEFUL TO GET ENOUGH INTERESTED PARTIES TO, TO HOST THE EVENT.
IF NOT, WE'LL COMPILE THOSE INTERESTED CONTACTS AND SCHEDULE A LATER DATE WHEN IT MAKES SENSE.
BUT DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE OURSELVES AVAILABLE THERE.
UM, IF YOU'VE BEEN FOLLOWING SOME OF THE CITY NEWS RECENTLY, THE CITY IS LOOKING AT LITIGATION AGAINST THE, UM, UH, THE, THE PRESIDENT'S ADMINISTRATION.
UM, AND SO THAT CONTINUES TO BE A TOPIC OF CONVERSATION, UM, SENSITIVE TO, TO IMPACTS HERE, BOTH FROM POLICY STANDPOINT TO FEDERAL FUNDING CONVERSATIONS AND I, AND WE HAVE SOME SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS ABOUT THE IMPACTS AND THE RAMIFICATIONS OF, OF REDUCTIONS IN SOME OF THE FEDERAL FUNDINGS.
UM, AND THEN I THINK, YOU KNOW, CLEARLY SINCE WE LAST MET, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF VOLATILITY ACROSS THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
UH, A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT.
WE'VE HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS HERE.
I THINK OUR POSITION AS A CITY AND MY POSITION AS A POLICE CHIEF HAVE BEEN PRETTY WELL STATED.
UM, WE CONTINUE TO BE FOCUSED ON COMMUNITY POLICING AND ENFORCING CALIFORNIA STATE LAW, UM, AND ARE REALLY GOOD AT DOING THAT.
UM, WE DON'T HAVE A ROLE IN CIVIL, CIVIL IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT.
UM, OUR STAFF ARE GONNA BE IN THEIR UNIFORMS CLEARLY MARKED AS SUCH.
WE'VE SEEN SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT FACIAL COVERINGS, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE THOSE, WE DON'T WEAR THEM.
YOU'LL SEE US LIKE THIS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF, UH, IF YOU HAVE A MEDICAL NECESSITY OR A RELIGIOUS EXEMPTION.
WE HAVE SOME EXEMPTIONS AND QUALIFICATIONS FOR THOSE THAT WORK THROUGH OUR HR DEPARTMENT, BUT OUR STAFF ARE GONNA LOOK PRES PROFESSIONAL AND PRESENTABLE AND CLEARLY IDENTIFIABLE TO THE PUBLIC.
AND WE'RE RESPONDING TO AND HAVE SEEN SOME ACTIVITY IN OUR REGION.
UM, WE WORK WITH OUR FEDERAL PARTNERS.
I THINK I'VE ALSO MENTIONED THAT, THAT, TO BE CLEAR, KIND OF LIKE THIS TOPIC TONIGHT, UM, THE TERMINOLOGY OF HOMELAND SECURITY.
HOMELAND SECURITY HAS A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT DIVISIONS IN UMBRELLAS.
UM, SOME OF THEM FOCUS ON IMMIGRATION, SOME OF THEM WORK ON HUMAN TRAFFICKING, NARCOTICS, UM, AND CARTEL INVESTIGATIONS, ORGANIZED RETAIL CRIME THEFTS.
SO, UM, WE WORK IN THOSE LANES, BUT WE COMPLY WITH SENATE BILL 54 ON NOT PROVIDING IMMIGRATION INFORMATION OR THAT TYPE OF DATA AND FOCUS STRICTLY ON, ON CRIMINAL ENFORCEMENT.
ALRIGHT, AND THAT CONCLUDES MY COMMENTS.
CAN YOU BRAG A LITTLE ABOUT, UM, IT'S ON THE, UM, SOCIAL MEDIA TODAY, THE DISTRICT POLICING.
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SURE.YOU, YOU WANNA YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT IT? I DEFINITELY DON'T WANNA BRAG BECAUSE IT WASN'T, IT WASN'T MY IDEA.
AND, AND LIEUTENANT ANA WAS GONNA BE A HARD TIME ABOUT TALKING.
THERE WAS A LOT OF, UH, SOCIAL MEDIA OF PHOTOGRAPHS OF OUR OFFICERS ENJOYING THE FAIR.
SO, UH, AND THEY WERE PRESENT EVERY DAY.
SO ON THE FAIR, UM, WE'LL SHARE IT WITH OUR TEAM LATER THIS WEEK, BUT, UH, WEDNESDAY KIND OF, OR THURSDAY SOFT OPENING, UM, EASING INTO THE DAY.
WE HAD SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO HIGHLIGHT AND ENGAGE WITH THE COMMUNITY LATER IN THE WEEK WITH HIGHER CROWD VOLUMES.
OUR FOCUS WAS MUCH MORE ON SENSE AND SAFETY, UH, INITIATIVES.
UH, BUT WE WERE, UH, WE CAPTURED SOME OF THOSE MOMENTS.
UH, THE POLICE EXECUTIVE RESEARCH FOUNDATION ACTUALLY SHARED ONE OF THOSE IMAGES NATIONALLY, UH, IN THEIR EMAIL DISTRIBUTION LIST THIS WEEK.
UM, AND THEN THE DISTRICT COMMENT CARD THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, THAT WAS, I DON'T, I DIDN'T HAVE ONE TONIGHT.
I ACTUALLY DIDN'T KNOW THAT THE ANNOUNCEMENT WAS COMING OUT.
MY STAFF'S WORKING AHEAD OF ME.
BUT OUR, OUR OFFICERS IN THE STREET, UH, CAME UP WITH THE IDEA, WANTED TO DO THAT THEMSELVES.
ONE OF THE, THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES WE GET IS WHETHER IT'S A TRAFFIC COMPLAINT OR IT'S A QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE, UH, I, I JOKE AND I CALL IT THE PROOF OF LIFE.
LIKE THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T KNOW THAT WE'RE OUT THERE DOING THESE THINGS IF THEY DON'T SEE US THERE.
AND WE MAY BE DOING TRAFFIC CONTROL AND THEN 10 MINUTES AFTER WE LEAVE, SOMEONE SPEEDS DOWN YOUR STREET AND YOU SEE IT IN THAT MOMENT.
AND IT'S, IT'S THE, THE POLICE OFFICER ARE NEVER HERE.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE NEVER OUT HERE DOING ANYTHING.
SO, UM, THE, THE OFFICERS WERE LIKE, WE'RE WORKING EVERY NIGHT.
WE'RE GOING THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS.
WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE AREN'T HAVING THEIR CARS BURGLARIZED, THAT THINGS ARE LOCKED UP.
THEY'RE DOING ALL THE THINGS THAT THEY NEED TO DO, BUT THEY DON'T KNOW THAT WE WERE HERE.
OR THEY DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE PROVIDING THAT SENSE OF SAFETY, UH, AT NIGHTTIME WHILE EVERYONE'S SLEEPING.
AND SO THEY CAME UP WITH THESE CARDS.
THEY'VE BEEN FINDING OPPORTUNE MOMENTS TO SHARE AND LEAVE THEM IN PLACES WHERE COMMUNITIES MEMBERS WILL FIND THEM AND KNOW THAT THEY WERE OUT DOING, UM, A DIRECTED PATROL, THEY WERE OVER IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AT THAT NIGHTTIME AND, AND THAT THEY WERE PRESENT AND VISIBLE AND COMPLIMENTING THEM ON, YOU KNOW, THEIR SECURITY.
UM, YOU KNOW, KEEPING THEIR DOORS LOCKED AND REMOVING THEIR VALUABLES FROM THEIR CAR OR, OR YOU KNOW WHAT, WHATNOT.
AND IT'S GREAT TO SEE OUR STAFF TAKING THE INITIATIVE AND DOING WHAT WE ENCOURAGE THEM TO DO, WHICH IS BEING EFFECTIVE AND PROBLEM SOLVERS IN OUR DISTRICT POLICING MODEL.
THANK YOU FOR HIGHLIGHTING THAT.
WELL, AT THE NEXT MEETING, COULD YOU MAYBE BRING ONE ON EVEN SHOW, UM, A HIGHLIGHT BECAUSE I SAW IT REAL QUICK ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND THEN I MOVED ON TO SOMETHING ELSE THINKING IT WOULD BE HERE TONIGHT.
SO, UM, SORRY TO SPRING IT ON YOU, BUT I WOULD LIKE AN ACTUAL CARD TO SHOW AT THE COUNCIL MEDIA.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE ONE FOR MY TEAM AS WELL AS ON.
AND THEN, AND THEN MAYBE YOU COULD SHOW IT ON THE SCREEN AND, AND STAFF CAN EXPLAIN THE LINES.
'CAUSE LIKE I SAID, I SAW IT REAL BRIEFLY ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND THEN DIDN'T GO BACK TO SEE IT AGAIN.
AND IF YOU GO ON, IT'S ON FACEBOOK AND INSTAGRAM.
CURRENTLY IT'S IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH.
WE'LL DEFINITELY BRING A HARD COPY.
I'M ASSUMING WE ALSO HAVE AN ELECTRONIC COPY, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO, TO SEND YOU ONE OF THOSE IN EMAILS UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING.
BUT WE CAN ABSOLUTELY HIGHLIGHT AT THE NEXT MEETING.
UH, SO TO BRAG THERE, THE VIDEOS YOU'VE BEEN PUTTING OUT ABOUT, UM, MAKING A BETTER CHOICE OR A SECOND CHANCE, OR I FORGET, IT'S A CATCHY LINE AND IT, IT TAUGHT, IT, IT REWINDS THE STORY OF, OF SOMEONE GETTING A DUI AND GOING TO JAIL AND HOW IT HAS ALL THE REPERCUSSIONS, BUT IT THEN IT GOES BACKWARDS IN TIME AND HE HANDS THE KEYS TO SOMEONE ELSE AND SAYS, I NEED A RIDE HOME.
SO I I, IT'S A VERY CLEVER VIDEO.
THERE'S A FIVE OR SIX VIDEOS, THEY'RE GRANT FUNDED THROUGH THE CHP CANNABIS TAX GRANT.
UM, SO WE HAVEN'T PAID TO PRODUCE THOSE.
UM, THEY ARE START TO FINISH IN MULTIPLE INTERVALS WITH THE IMPACTS ON THE IN INDIVIDUAL, THE VICTIM'S FAMILY, THEIR IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBERS THEMSELVES, THE COURT SYSTEM, EMS, THE HOSPITAL AND, AND FIRST RESPONDERS ALL THROUGH THEIR LENS.
SO THANK YOU FOR HIGHLIGHTING THAT.
AND THEN I THINK WE HAVE MEDIA INQUIRIES AND, AND MEDIA RELEASES AND PRESS RELEASES ON OUR NEXT PRESENTATION.
AND SO WE CAN KIND OF TALK ABOUT SOME OF OUR METHODOLOGY AND APPROACH ON WHAT'S THE PUBLIC SAFETY AWARENESS KIND OF CAMPAIGNS AND MESSAGING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO REINFORCE AND JUST ABOVE AND BEYOND JUST GENERAL CRIME PRESS RELEASES.
YOU'RE ALWAYS ALLOWED TO BRAG AS MUCH AS YOU WANT
ALRIGHT, IF THERE, UNLESS THERE'S ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM ANY OF THE OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBERS, I'LL MOVE TO ADJOURN.
WITH THAT, WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 7:29 PM THANK YOU.