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BE UP IN HERE.SO, YEAH, GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE REGULAR RECORDING IN PROGRESS.
[CALL TO ORDER]
WELCOME TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PETALUMA CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION FOR THURSDAY, JULY 10TH, 2025.GONNA OPEN IT WITH THAT, UH, CLERK, COULD YOU PLEASE TAKE THE ROLE? YES, WE HAVE A FEW ABSENCES.
[PRESENTATIONS]
ITEM ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT IS PRESENTATION.PETALUMA MONTHLY UPDATE UNDERNEATH THE STICKY HIDING.
UM, MY NAME IS NATASHA JULIANA.
HAPPY TO BE BACK THIS TIME BECAUSE IT'S THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR.
I THOUGHT WE WOULD DO A LITTLE RECAP OF WHAT'S HAPPENED OVER THE LAST 12 MONTHS, WHICH IS KIND OF FUN.
AND THEN I HAVE A COUPLE OF LAST MINUTE UPDATES AS WELL.
SO, UM, JUST FOR YOUR REFERENCE, GIVEN THAT YOU GUYS ALL KNOW THE, UH, BLUEPRINT FOR CLIMATE ACTION, SO WELL, HERE ARE SOME OF THE CLIMATE ACTION, UM, ITEMS THAT COOL PETALUMA HAS BEEN WORKING ON OVER THE LAST 12 MONTHS, AND SOME OF THE CORNERSTONES AND PARTICULAR ACTIONS JUST AS REFERENCE.
UM, WE KEEP THIS IN MIND WHEN WE'RE PLANNING OUR PROJECTS AND, UM, WHEN WE'RE COLLABORATING WITH THE CITY WHERE WE CAN BEST FIT IN AND HELP, UH, MOVE THIS, UM, ACTION PLAN ALONG.
AND JUST AT A GLANCE OF WHAT WE'VE DONE OVER THE LAST 12 MONTHS ARE WE'VE SENT OUT 41 NEWSLETTERS TO, UM, APPROXIMATELY 2,270 PER RECIPIENTS.
AND WE HAVE A 66.6% OPEN RATE.
WE'VE HAD SEVEN PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE'VE DONE PROJECTS WITH THIS YEAR, INCLUDING THE CITY OF PETALUMA, THE PETALUMA CITY SCHOOLS, CAFE PUENTE DAILY ACTS, CLIMATE ACTION, PETALUMA RELIEF, PETALUMA BLUE ZONES PROJECT PETALUMA.
THAT IS HOW WE DO CLIMATE ACTION AND INCREASE SOCIAL CONNECTION AT THE SAME TIME.
SO, JUST QUICK RECAP OF SOME OF THE PARTNERSHIP PROJECTS.
IF YOU REMEMBER BACK IN THE FALL, WE WORKED WITH RELIEF TO, UM, HELP RECRUIT SIGNUPS FOR THEIR RESIDENTIAL CANOPY PROJECT.
WE HELPED RECRUIT 342 RESIDENTIAL SIGNUPS.
THAT IS GONNA BE HAPPENING AGAIN THIS FALL, AND GOT A REALLY GOOD COVERAGE ON THE MAP TOO, WHICH WE WERE ALL VERY HAPPY ABOUT.
WE ALSO HAD A PRO, UH, PARTNERSHIP WITH BLUE ZONES PROJECT PETALUMA.
WE HAD A BIG VOLUNTEER PARTY LAST SUMMER WITH OVER 200 VOLUNTEERS IN ATTENDANCE, AND WE'VE STARTED COLLABORATIONS WITH THEM, INCLUDING OUR MONTHLY MENDING CIRCLE THAT, UM, HAS BEEN GOING ON NOW FOR I THINK PROBABLY TWO YEARS OR SOMETHING.
YEAH, THANKS TO, UH, CLIMATE ACTION MANAGER, DEB FOX FOR STARTING THAT.
WE'VE ALSO PARTNERED WITH THE ACTS AND CLIMATE ACTION PETALUMA TO HOLD THE QUARTERLY COMMUNITY LEADERSHIP, COMMUNITY LEADER CLIMATE ROUNDTABLES.
WE HAVE 184 CONTACTS ON THAT LIST.
WE TYPICALLY GET ABOUT 40 OR 50 PEOPLE IN ATTENDANCE COVERING DIFFERENT TOPICS, AND SEVERAL OF YOU ATTEND THOSE.
WE ALSO HAD OUR VERY EXCITING FUTURE FEST, WHICH YOU ALL REMEMBER.
THAT WAS A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY, THE SCHOOLS AND CAFE PUENTE.
UH, IT WAS ABOUT 600 PEOPLE IN ATTENDANCE, REALLY GREAT SHOWING, UH, 51 TABLING BUSINESSES, NONPROFITS, AND COMMUNITY GROUPS.
AND WE WERE ALSO REALLY EXCITED THIS YEAR TO ADD THE SCHOOLS AND CAFE PUENTE MAKING THIS, UH, AGE-FRIENDLY AND, UM, BILINGUAL EVENT.
AND WE HAD TWO REALLY SUCCESSFUL MOVIE NIGHTS.
UH, THE JOIN OR DIE MOVIE SOLD OUT, AND ACTUALLY WE HAD TO DO TWO MORE SHOWINGS
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OF THAT.WE HAD A HUNDRED PEOPLE IN ATTENDANCE, AND THAT IS REALLY ABOUT CIVIC ENGAGEMENT AND THE IMPORTANCE OF JOINING ORGANIZATIONS AND CREATING THAT, THAT COMMUNITY, UH, THAT FABRIC OF SOCIAL CAPITAL, WHICH HELPS BOTH THE COMMUNITY AND OUR CIVIC ENGAGEMENT.
AND THEN WE JUST DID A GOOD GRIEF DOCUMENTARY, UH, WHICH IS ABOUT CLIMATE GRIEF, AND THAT HAD ABOUT 70 PEOPLE IN ATTENDANCE THAT WAS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH GOOD GRIEF.
AND THEN ALSO THE UCC PETALUMA, UM, CHURCH.
AND WE ACTUALLY ARE GONNA BE DOING TWO MORE EVENTS WITH THEM THIS SUMMER.
WE HAVE OUR MONTHLY BOOK CLUB.
UH, WE'VE COVERED THREE BOOKS SO FAR.
WE ARE NOW ONTO ABUNDANCE, WHICH I'M SURE, UM, COMMISSIONER GARDY WILL BE HAPPY TO HEAR.
UM, THAT WILL BE OUR, OUR BOOK THE CLUB ASKS THAT.
WE SPLIT IT INTO TWO EVENTS JUST 'CAUSE IT'S SUMMER AND PEOPLE ARE HAVING A HARD TIME GETTING THEIR READING DONE.
SO THAT'S VERY EXCITING AND HAS BEEN A REALLY GREAT WAY TO ENGAGE COMMUNITY MEMBER, A NEW BATCH OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE USUAL SUSPECTS, BUT WE DO HAVE, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER SRI IS ALWAYS THERE TOO.
SO IT'S GREAT THAT WE HAVE SOME REPRESENTATION THERE TO, UM, GIVE THE, THE SCOOP FROM THE CITY ANGLE.
AND THEN OUR COOL BUSINESS COLLECTIVE IS UP AND RUNNING.
WE HAVE A LIST OF OFFICIAL MEMBERS.
WE USUALLY GET ABOUT 20 PEOPLE IN ATTENDANCE THIS WEEK.
UH, WE ACTUALLY DID A COOL BUSINESS CRAWL WHERE THREE DIFFERENT BUSINESSES HOSTED, AND THE BUSINESSES GOT TO GO AROUND AND SEE THE BEHIND THE SCENES OF HOW THE SUSTAINABILITY OF PRACTICES OF THREE LOCAL BUSINESSES.
SO, YOU KNOW, BEHIND THE CURTAIN, WHAT PEOPLE ARE DOING ARE IS OFTEN VERY IMPRESSIVE AND THEY DON'T REALLY GET CREDIT FOR IT.
SO HOW DO WE SHARE THOSE PRACTICES, BEST PRACTICES BETWEEN BUSINESSES? AND THEN OUR GOAL IS TO ACTUALLY DO A PUBLIC VERSION OF THAT, WHERE THE PUBLIC GETS TO SEE WHAT THE BUSINESSES ARE DOING BEHIND THE SCENES.
WE HAVE OUR BYO CUP CAMPAIGN, WHICH WE LAUNCHED LAST FALL.
AND THEN, UM, THIS WAS ALSO, WE ALSO HAVE VIDEOS THAT SOME LOCAL, UM, VIDEO MAKERS HELPED US CREATE THAT ARE STARTING.
WE SHOWED AT THE FUTURE FEST, BUT NOW WE'RE STARTING TO ROLL THEM OUT AS A LARGER CAMPAIGN TO TRY AND GET MORE TRACTION ON THIS.
SO, UH, THIS IS IS SOMETHING THAT'S ONGOING.
WE HAD OUR COOL BLOCK PROGRAM.
WE HAD TWO COURT COHORTS IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS.
WE'VE TRAINED FIT 25 NEW TEAM LEADERS, AND WE ALSO HAD A NEW THE UCC PETALUMA AS OUR FIRST FAITH-BASED TEAM.
AND THEY ACTUALLY WENT THROUGH THE WHOLE PROGRAM AND COMPLETED IT AND GAVE US SOME GREAT FEEDBACK.
SO IT WAS GREAT TO SEE THAT IT WORKS IN A DIFFERENT SETTING.
AND THEN THIS WAS FROM OUR END OF YEAR 2024 SURVEY, JUST, UH, I SHOWED THIS BEFORE, BUT HOW PEOPLE ARE, ARE, UM, PARTICIPATING, GOING EVENTS ARE A BIG ONE.
AND, UM, AND THAT THEY'RE, THEY ARE ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, TAKING ACTION BECAUSE OF THE, THE MOTIVATE BEING MOTIVATED BY COOL PETALUMA.
AND THIS IS ALWAYS REALLY INTERESTING.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT AGAIN AND AGAIN PEOPLE REALLY ENJOY IS THE BUILDING THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, GETTING TO KNOW THEIR NEIGHBORS.
AND, UH, ACROSS THE BOARD THAT SEEMS TO BE REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT TO PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY POST COVID.
WELL, MAYBE IT'S NOT POST COVID GIVEN HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE SICK RIGHT NOW.
BUT, UM, POST LOCKDOWN AND, AND GIVEN SORT OF THE LONELINESS EPIDEMIC WE KEEP HEARING ABOUT EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS IS ALSO HIGH ON THAT LIST.
AND THAT IS SUPER IMPORTANT AS WE KNOW RIGHT NOW, UM, WITH ALL OF THE CRAZY FLOODING THAT IS GOING ON, THAT IS BECOMING A, FOR, AT THE FOREFRONT OF PEOPLE'S MINDS YET AGAIN.
SO UPCOMING EVENTS, UH, WE ARE DOING TWO MORE EVENTS WITH GOOD GRIEF, UH, ONE IN JULY AND ONE IN AUGUST, WHICH IS A TWO HOUR, UM, KIND OF LIKE A WORKSHOP, BUT MORE OF A GATHERING, UH, UM, FACILITATED CONVERSATION ABOUT BUILDING INNER RESILIENCE IN AN UNCERTAIN TIME.
SO IT, YOU KNOW, IS NORMALLY INTENDED JUST FOR CLIMATE CHANGE, BUT, UH, THESE FEEL LIKE PARTICULARLY UNCERTAIN TIMES IN SO MANY LEVELS THAT WE'RE OPENING UP TO A LARGER CONVERSATION.
AND THEN WE'VE GOT THE BOOK CLUB WITH ABUNDANCE COMING UP ON TUESDAY, AUGUST 5TH.
AND THEN WE'VE GOT THE COOL BUSINESS COLLECTIVE.
UM, WE'RE GONNA BE DOING OUR CONSUMPTION.
UH, WE, WE'VE ALREADY COVERED EMERGENCIES AND NOW WE'RE GONNA BE COVERING CONSUMPTION ON AUGUST 12TH.
SO IF YOU KNOW ANY BUSINESSES, PLEASE INVITE THEM TO COME ALONG.
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I THINK I, I DIDN'T HAVE A SLIDE OF THIS BECAUSE IT JUST, JUST HAPPENED, BUT, UM, AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW, UH, WAS PART OF THE TEAM THAT WENT BACK TO DENVER FOR THE ALL AMERICA CITIES CH AWARD AND WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO MEET MANY SUPER INSPIRING CITIES FROM AKRON, OHIO TO TALLAHASSEE, FLORIDA, TO MEMPHIS, TENNESSEE, DOING REALLY GREAT CLIMATE WORK AND EQUITY WORK.AND TODAY I JUST HAD TWO CONVERSATIONS, ONE WITH CARBO IN NORTH CAROLINA WHO IS ACTUALLY HAVING SOME FLOODING ISSUES RIGHT NOW.
AND ARVADA, COLORADO, WHO OFTEN FACES FIRES.
AND BOTH OF THEM ARE INTERESTED IN THIS IDEA OF COMMUNITY BASED, UM, TEAMS AND ENGAGEMENT.
AND THEN, UM, WE ARE ALSO IN THE PROCESS OF TALKING TO ALAMEDA, CALIFORNIA ABOUT, UM, THANKS TO A CONNECTION THROUGH, UM, UH, UH, CLIMATE ACTION MANAGER, DEB FOX.
SO, UH, THEY ARE ALSO INTERESTED IN REPLICATING WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IN PETALUMA.
AND THAT CONCLUDES THE LAST 12 MONTHS.
AND THERE WERE SOME OTHER SMALLER EVENTS IN THERE, BUT THAT WAS LIKE THE BIG CHUNKY STUFF.
SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEXT 12 MONTHS, KEEPING THE PROGRESS GOING.
THE RELIEF THING I READ IN THE NEWS THAT LIKE THE, THE VOLUNTEERS WERE GONE AND I KNOW, I KNOW YOU CAN'T SPEAK FOR RELIEF, BUT I DON'T, IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO, DO YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT? I DO.
SO, UM, LAST YEAR RELIEF APPLIED FOR AND WAS ABLE TO SECURE THE HELP OF, UM, CONSERVATION CORPS MEMBERS.
AND THAT WAS ALWAYS GONNA BE A FINITE THING.
SO THEY WERE, THEY REALLY JUST NEEDED THAT EXTRA OOMPH TO GET THROUGH THE RESIDENTIAL TREE PROGRAM, WHICH THEY DID.
THE CORE MEMBERS THEN WENT ON TO OREGON, AND I THINK A FEW OTHER PLACES, BUT LIKE MID DEPLOYMENT, THEY FOUND OUT THAT THEIR PROGRAM HAD BEEN CUT AND THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO FINISH.
UM, AS, YOU KNOW, WITH THE GOVERNMENT FUNDING THAT THE FEDERAL FUNDING THAT THEY WERE EXPECTING TO HAVE.
SO THEY CROWDFUNDED, UM, ENOUGH MONEY TO GET THROUGH TO GET ALL THOSE CORPS MEMBERS THROUGH THAT WHOLE PROGRAM.
BUT GOING FORWARD, I DON'T THINK THAT THIS YEAR IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE CORPS MEMBERS AGAIN, HELPING WITH THAT RESIDENTIAL PROGRAM.
AND IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THAT IS GONNA COME TO FRUITION AND IT'S, IT'S RELIEF GONNA DO A CAMPAIGN TO REPLICATE IT? OR IS THAT TOO ASPIRATIONAL? WE'RE, WE'RE IN TALKS, UM, ABOUT WHAT THE RESIDENTIAL PROGRAM WILL LOOK LIKE THIS YEAR.
UM, WE, WE GOT A LOT OF OUR TARGETS DONE IN THE FIRST YEAR.
NOT ALL OF 'EM, BUT I THINK IT WAS WELL OVER HALF OF WHAT WE, WHAT WE SAID WE WERE GONNA DO UNDER OUR GRANT COMMITMENTS.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, IT, IT MAY BE THAT WE, INSTEAD OF DOING IT IN LIKE TWO YEARS, LIKE WE ORIGINALLY THOUGHT, LIKE GET MOST OF THE THINGS DONE, IT MIGHT TAKE LONGER.
UM, 'CAUSE IT'S A FIVE YEAR GRANT AND WE'RE IN YEAR TWO OF THAT GRANT.
UM, SO IT, INSTEAD OF GETTING EVERYTHING DONE IN LIKE THE FIRST TWO OR THREE YEARS, IT MIGHT BE LIKE THREE OR FOUR YEARS OR ALL THE WAY UP TO THE DEADLINE.
SO I DON'T THINK THERE'S LIKE AN IMMEDIATE NEED TO PANIC, BUT THEY'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR VOLUNTEERS.
SO ANYBODY THAT REALLY IS INTERESTED IN PLANTING TREES, THEY CAN FIND
UM, BESIDES THE VOLUNTEERS, THE PUSH NOW IS TO GET, UH, TREE STEWARDS SO THAT COOL BLOCK LEADERS OR SOMEONE ELSE IN THE COMMUNITY, UM, BUT IN THAT LOCAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO ACTUALLY HAVE A TREE STEWARD WHO'S WATCHING OUT FOR THE LOCAL ENVIRONMENT.
WHEREAS THE COOL BLOCK LEADERS USUALLY WORK WITH THE PEOPLE.
SO NOW WE'RE LOOKING FOR TREE STEWARDS WHO, AND, AND ECOLOGY STEWARDS BASICALLY TO, TO TAKE A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT TACK BUT STILL DO THAT IN EACH OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO THAT'S BESIDES VOLUNTEERS JUST TO PLANT TREES.
'CAUSE NOW IT'S GETTING LOCATIONS WHERE TO PLANT TREES.
'CAUSE NOW WE, WE'VE PUT IN THE EASY THE, THE LOW HANGING FRUIT'S BEEN DONE.
AND SO NOW THE NEXT STEP IS A LITTLE, LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT.
SO WE NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO, UH, STEP UP AND HELP OUT AND SAY, HEY, WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE HAVE NOW.
[GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT]
IS GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.READ THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON ITEMS OF PUBLIC INTEREST THAT ARE WITHIN THE COMMISSION'S SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION.
UH, YOU HAVE UP TO 20 MINUTES.
I HAVE, UH, THE CHAIR USUALLY HAS DISCRETION TO GO BEYOND THREE MINUTES.
SO, UM, USUALLY PEOPLE DON'T GO BEYOND THREE MINUTES, BUT, UH, PLEASE.
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OKAY.HELLO? UM, MY NAME IS GAIL ABRAMS AND I AM HERE AS A MEMBER AND CURRENT CHAIR.
WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS NEXT WEEK OF THE TRANSIT ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
AND I'M HERE AT THE CLIMATE UM, ACTION COMMITTEE BECAUSE TRANSIT IS OBVIOUSLY ESSENTIAL PART OF REDUCING OUR CARBON FOOTPRINT.
ONE OF THE HURDLES IN TAKING MASS TRANSIT IS, UM, SCHLEPPING, UH, SCHLEPPING YOUR LITTLE ONES IN THEIR BUGGY AND SCHLEPPING YOUR GROCERIES AND OTHER HEAVY THINGS LIKE CAT LITTER IN YOUR SHOPPING CART.
AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS AT THE TRANSIT ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR THE TWO YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN ON IT.
AND IT'S ON THE AGENDA NEXT TUESDAY AT 5:00 PM IS OUR MEETING.
SO YOU COULD SORT OF TIME YOURSELF IF YOU DIDN'T WANNA COME TO THE, THE WHOLE, BUT VERY FEW PEOPLE COME IN GENERAL AND DIVIDE THAT IN HALF OR BY FIVE OR SOMETHING.
AND THAT'S HOW MANY PEOPLE COME TO THE TRANSIT ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
SO I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN DRUM UP SOME SUPPORT FROM THE PEOPLE WHO REALLY HAVE A STAKE IN INCREASING MASS TRANSIT USE.
I DID ALSO TALK TO, UM, THE PEDESTRIAN AND, YOU KNOW, PBAC BECAUSE A HUGE THING FOR PEDESTRIAN TRAVEL IS, YOU KNOW, COMMINGLING IT WITH, UH, MASS TRANSIT, UM, BIKES SOMEWHAT, BUT THAT'S BEEN ADDRESSED TO A LARGE EXTENT.
'CAUSE EVERY BUS, YOU KNOW, CAN CARRY, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST ONCE AND MOST OF THEM MORE THAN ONE.
SO IT'S TUESDAY, JULY 15TH AT FIVE O'CLOCK IF YOU CAME IN AROUND FIVE 30 OR FIVE.
SO THEN YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH US ELECTING OUR CHAIR AND ALL OF THAT.
BUT I'D VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IT IF SOME OR ALL OF YOU WOULD COME.
I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT COMMENT.
THAT'S A LITTLE BIT FORESHADOWING FOR SOME ACTION WE HAVE TONIGHT.
UH, BOTH ON THE AD HOC FRONT AS WELL AS, UH, VOTING FRONT.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
UP, ITEM NUMBER TWO ON OUR AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.ALLOW ANYONE TO RAISE ANYTHING.
UH, THOSE MINUTES ARE DEEMED APPROVED AND WE
[PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION]
WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE.THIS IS UNDER THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION TOPIC SELECTION OF CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR FOR FISCAL YEAR 25, 26.
UM, I WILL, IF ANYONE DOESN'T HAVE ANY QUICK COMMENTS, I DO HAVE A HOUSEKEEPING ITEM TO OPEN THIS UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT AS WELL.
SO, UM, IF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WANT TO SPEAK ON ITEM THREE, ELECTION OF THE CHAIR OR VICE CHAIR, NOW IS YOUR TIME.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, BACK WHEN I WAS THE CHAIR, MAYBE, UH, YEAR AND A HALF AGO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, IT WAS EXPLAINED TO ME, WE HAVE A TRADITION, UH, CERTAINLY AMONG ALL THE BODIES IN THE CITY, BUT CERTAINLY THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION TO ROTATE THE CHAIR ANNUALLY.
UH, AND SO, UH, IN THE SPIRIT OF THAT, UH, ROTATION, I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE DAVE GARDY TO BE THE CHAIR FOR THE NEXT ROUND.
UH, AND ALSO IN THE SPIRIT OF, UM, CONTINUITY, I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE NA AMY LEY TO BE VICE CHAIR.
UM, I DON'T KNOW AS THE CHAIR IF I COULD MYSELF MAKE A MOTION OR IF I CAN HAVE SOMEONE ELSE MAKE A MOTION.
BUT, UM, YEAH, THAT IS AT LEAST, UH, MY THOUGHTS ON THE MATTER.
WHERE WE GO CHAIR, I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
AND, UM, WELL, I JUST, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OR IS THIS JUST, WE'RE JUST DOING IT
I, WELL, DOES ANYBODY ELSE WANNA THROW THE HAT IN THE RING? I KNOW AMY IS AMENABLE TO STAYING ON ANOTHER YEAR.
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I DON'T FEEL SUPER STRONGLY EITHER WAY.I'M HAPPY TO BE VICE CHAIR AND HAVE HER CONTINUE ON AS CHAIR.
IT REALLY, IT'S NOT THAT CRITICAL FOR ME.
I DON'T, YOU KNOW, UH, SO I JUST WANNA KNOW WHAT IT, WHAT YOU ALL THOUGHT.
IS THAT OKAY? IS IT, CAN WE, CAN WE HAVE THIS DISCUSSION OR IS THAT NOT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT DISCUSSION THERE IS.
IS NOW, CAN I NOMINATE, UH, AMY AND THEN WE HAVE TO VOTE? I, I RECOMMEND THERE, THERE.
I BELIEVE THERE WAS A MOTION ON THERE, OR DID NOBODY ACTUALLY MAKE THAT MOTION? I THOUGHT I HEARD ANNE.
I DON'T, I INTERRUPTED HER SO I DON'T, IT WASN'T SECONDED.
UM, GENERALLY HOW THE PROCESS IS, IF THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND YOU VOTE ON THAT MOTION.
AND IF THERE'S A SECOND ONE, IF THAT FIRST ONE FAILS, THEN YOU MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE.
SO IF YOU'VE NOT SECONDED THAT MOTION, YOU COULD CONSIDER A COUNTER.
BUT, UM, YEAH, LET'S TRY TO KEEP CLEAR WHAT THE MOTION AND ACTION IS THEN, THEN BASED ON DAVE'S COMMENTS THAT I WOULD MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE NOMINATE AMY AS PRESIDENT AND YOU AS VICE PRESIDENT.
PRESIDENT THINKS SOUNDS COOL, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU CAN WORK UP TO IT.
YEAH, I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.
CLERK, CAN WE HAVE THE ROLL? CAN I ONLY SAY WHO'S PRESENT? IF WE'RE DOING ROLL CALL, WE CAN JUST NOTE THE ONES THAT ARE, UM, SO YOU CAN SAY THEIR NAME AND ABSENT.
MUNSTER, WHO IS ABSENT? EL CAMP PRESENT.
YOU MAY, PASSES MAY PASS THE GAVEL.
UH, ALL RIGHT, WE'RE MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
THIS IS THE AD HOC CONTINUATION AND FUTURE COMPOSITION OF SUBCOMMITTEES DISCUSSION.
FOR COMES BEFORE FIVE APPARENTLY, CONSIDERATION OF A DRAFT SINGLE USE FOOD WEAR ORDINANCE.
AND, UH, I WILL, UH, IS THERE ANY STAFF PRESENTATION ON THIS ITEM? WE, I, I CAN DO A BRIEF INTRODUCTION.
UM, I MEAN, IT'S AN, AND, AND THEN I'LL MAYBE LOOK TO, UM, COMMISSIONER AMP TO SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING HE WANTS TO ADD TO IT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, AMY THAT SPEARHEADED IT, UM, PRANAV THAT, THAT WAS ALSO A MEMBER ARE NOT HERE.
SO IT'S UNFORTUNATE TIMING THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING THIS ONE.
ONLY ONE MEMBER OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE, UH, IS PRESENT.
BUT, UM, WE'LL, WE'LL SEE WHAT THE COMMISSION'S FEEDBACK IS ON THAT.
UM, I BELIEVE THAT THE COMMISSIONER IS, IS WELL AWARE OF, UH, THE BACKGROUND ON THIS, THAT THERE'S THIS, THE RESOURCE CONSUMPTION AD HOC WAS, UH, CREATED TO AND FOCUSED ON, UM, THE MODEL DISPOSABLE FOOD WEAR ORDINANCE THAT WAS PUT FORTH BY ZERO WASTE SONOMA SOME YEARS AGO.
UM, THEY MET NUMEROUS TIMES TO DISCUSS THE DOCUMENT, UM, WHAT KIND OF REGULATION, WHAT KIND OF ORDINANCE WOULD BE, UH, APPLICABLE FOR THE CITY OF PETALUMA.
UM, THERE WAS A DRAFT PRESENTATION ON THE MARCH 13TH CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION MEETING, UH, WHERE THE WHOLE COMMISSION GAVE FEEDBACK TO THE RESOURCE CONSUMPTION AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE.
THAT FEEDBACK WAS TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT, UM, AND THE DRAFT ORDINANCE AND THE SUMMARY OF DOCUMENT, UM, THAT ARE ATTACHED TO THIS ITEM REFLECT THAT, UM, UH, FEEDBACK.
UH, TO BRIEFLY DESCRIBE, UM, THE SUMMARY DOCUMENT, THE ORDINANCE WOULD COVER RESTAURANTS, BARS, FAST FOOD, AND MOBILE FOOD
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TRUCK ESTABLISHMENTS, DELIS AND GROCERY STORES THAT HAVE DELI SERVICE, BAKERIES, QUICK STOP FOOD SERVICE, COFFEE SHOPS, FARMER'S MARKETS, TEMPORARY FOOD OPERATIONS, HOSPITAL CAFETERIAS, CITY FACILITIES, CITY MANAGED CONCESSIONS, AND CITY SPONSORED OR CITY PERMITTED EVENTS.UM, AND THERE WOULD BE REGULATIONS FOR DINE-IN SERVICE, WHICH WOULD BE ONLY REASONABLE FOOD WEAR.
UM, AND THE UTENSILS AND CONDIMENTS WOULD HAVE TO BE IN A DISPENSER FORMAT AS OPPOSED TO LIKE THE SINGLE USE PACKETS.
UH, FOR TAKEOUT SERVICE, UH, FOOD MUST BE OFFERED, UH, FROM NATURAL FIBERS OR COMPOSED OF ONLY ALUMINUM.
SO COMPOSTABLE, TRULY COMPOSTABLE IN THE SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE OR RECYCLABLE.
IN THE, IN THE CASE OF ALUMINUM, THERE WOULD BE A SURCHARGE THAT THE ESTABLISHMENT WOULD RETAIN WITH A $2 PER ORDER CAP.
UM, CUSTOMERS COULD BRING THEIR OWN FOR BOTH DINE-IN AND TAKEOUT ORDERS.
THEY COULD BRING THEIR OWN CONTAINERS IF ALLOWED BY THE BUSINESS.
AND, UM, THERE ARE SOME EXEMPTIONS DESCRIBED IN THE DOCUMENT, UM, DEPENDING ON THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION'S FEEDBACK THIS EVENING.
UM, WE WERE HOPING TO DO SOME FOCUS OUTREACH WITH AN INTERN THAT WOULD, WOULD HELP OUR OFFICE.
THAT UNFORTUNATELY DID NOT HAPPEN, BUT WE'RE STILL COMMITTED TO DO THAT OUTREACH AND, UM, POSSIBLY EVEN PILOTING AND COORDINATION WITH ZERO WASTE, SONOMA, SOME, UM, OF THESE ASPECTS, UH, IN, UM, ADVANCE OF BRINGING IT TO COUNCIL FOR, UH, FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION.
SO REALLY TO DO THAT FOCUSED OUTREACH TO AFFECTED BUSINESSES, MAKE SURE THAT, UM, IT'S NOT SURPRISING ANYONE THAT THEY HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE WITH THIS AND, AND REALLY JUST UNDERSTANDING THAT BASELINE OF WHERE THOSE BUSINESSES ARE COMING FROM AND HOW, UM, MUCH ADJUSTMENT WOULD BE NEEDED FOR THIS TO HELP US, UM, MAKE A, AN INFORMED, UM, RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE ON THIS.
UM, AND HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
AND COMMISSIONER AMP, I'M SURE COULD ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE AD HOC AS WELL AS WITH MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO HAVE BEEN IN ATTENDANCE AS WELL.
SO WE, IF IF THERE'S SOMETHING YOU WANNA SAY, MAYBE WE CAN HAVE THAT IN PUBLIC COMMENT.
AND THEN, UM, SO WE'LL, QUESTIONS OF COMMISSION FIRST IS WOULD BE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, UH, UH, AS I TAKE IT, UH, IF WE VOTE ON THIS TONIGHT AND IT, AND IT GOES THROUGH, THEN WHAT HAPPENS, UH, AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL.
SO THE, I BELIEVE THE RECOMMENDATION IS THAT, THAT, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTOOD FROM, FROM AMY, THE, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE MA MAJOR SPEARHEADS OF, OF THIS EFFORT IS THIS IS THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL.
AND SO THEN STAFF WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FROM, FOR GETTING THAT RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL.
AND I MENTIONED THAT WE INTEND TO DO MORE OUTREACH BEFORE IT GOES TO COUNCIL AS WELL.
AND, UH, HOW LONG WOULD YOU THINK THAT OUTREACH PROCESS WOULD TAKE? UH, PROBABLY MONTHS.
I, YEAH, I WISH I COULD GIVE A, A FINER POINT, BUT THERE'S GOTTA BE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A BASELINE TO PUT DOWN AND THEN THERE'S, IF WE DO PILOT SOME USES, YOU KNOW, IT TAKES A LITTLE WHILE FOR THEM.
LIKE THE, THE PURPLE CUP PROGRAM RIGHT, WAS, WAS A THREE MONTH PILOT, AND THAT WAS KIND OF A, A GOOD AMOUNT OF TIME FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND IT.
JUST WHEN EVERYBODY GOT USED TO IT, THEN THE PROGRAM STOPPED.
SO, UM, HOPEFULLY THIS WOULD BE THE OTHER WAY.
AND THE PROGRAM STARTS, OR, OR THE ORDINANCE STARTS.
HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE SOMETHING THAT LASTS LONGER THAN THREE MONTHS.
THAT'S, THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTIONS.
I, I WOULD JUST SAY THAT A LOT OF WORK AND A LOT OF EFFORT, A LOT OF MEETINGS, ZOOM MEETINGS, IN PERSON MEETINGS, DISCUSSION HAVE GONE INTO THIS.
WE TOOK YOUR FEEDBACK INTO CONSIDERATION.
WE, UH, WE, WE REFINED IT, AND I THINK WE HAVE A, A DOCUMENT THAT WE ALL REALLY FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH AND COULD SUPPORT.
SO I WOULD JUST ASK MY FELLOW COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO SUPPORT AND VOTE FOR MOVING THIS FORWARD TO THE NEXT STEP.
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WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO AVOID IS LIKE A, YOU KNOW, UH, AN EDIT FROM THE DAIS ON THE LANGUAGE IN THERE.I'D LIKE REALLY, LIKE WHAT, WHAT ARE THE KEY ELEMENTS THAT ARE WANTED FROM THE COMMISSION ON THAT I THINK IS A REALLY IMPORTANT ESSENCE, BECAUSE THIS HASN'T BEEN REVIEWED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, AND THEY'RE GONNA GO THROUGH AND PROBABLY REWRITE THE WHOLE THING.
SO I DON'T WANNA GET LIKE A, OH, THIS SHOULD BE A, THAT INSTEAD OF A THEREFORE, OR, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL.
BUT LIKE, IS THE COMMISSION ON BOARD WITH THIS IDEA OF A FEE PER ITEM WITH A, WITH A $2 CAP? OR IS THE COMMISSION OKAY WITH NATURAL FIBER COMPOSTABLES AND ALUMINUM FOR TAKEOUT? OR IS THERE LIKE SOME OTHER ADDITION THAT, THAT YOU'D LIKE MADE TO THAT? IT'S, IT'S THAT KIND OF HIGH LEVEL FEEDBACK THAT I, THAT I THINK WE'D LIKE, UM, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
UM, BUT DEFERRING IT A MONTH, I DON'T THINK WOULD SUBSTANTIALLY PUSH THINGS BACK.
UM, I, I, YOU KNOW, HAVING TALKED WITH, WITH AMY, UM, WHEN SHE LET ME KNOW THAT SHE WASN'T GONNA BE HERE, I THINK HER HOPE WAS THAT IT WOULD HAPPEN THIS MONTH THOUGH.
UM, IT STILL FEELS A LITTLE BIT, LIKE, A LITTLE BIT OF A CARTE BLANCHE WITHOUT SEEING THE ACTUAL, UH, EITHER DATA HISTORY, UM, THE ACTUAL FORM ITSELF THAT JUST LIKE IN PRINCIPLE, WE'RE, WE'RE SORT OF LIKE AGREEING.
UM, AND I THINK AS A COMMISSION BEFORE IT RECOMMENDS A THING TO GO STRAIGHT TO COUNCIL, UM, AT LEAST THE PRESENTATION HERE SHOULD INCLUDE, HERE'S, HERE'S A, A, A DRAFT OF IDEAS.
HERE'S SOME, HERE'S THE TOP FIVE THINGS.
WE LOOKED AT THIS CITY, THIS CITY AND THIS CITY, AND, AND THESE ARE THE BEST PARTS THAT'S COMING TOGETHER.
AND SO THERE'S SOME, UH, LIKE A REPORT THAT SAYS, OKAY, WE'VE LOOKED AT THIS WORK'S BEEN DONE ALREADY.
LET'S PACK THAT UP, MAKE A PRESENTATION, AND THEN, UM, AND THEN FURTHER IT AT A CERTAIN POINT SO THAT WHEN IT COMES TO COUNCIL, IT'S NOT, OH, IT'S A GREAT IDEA.
WHICH IS WHAT IT FEELS LIKE RIGHT NOW.
WE NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE SUBSTANCE, UH, BEFORE IT COMES TO COUNCIL, I THINK.
SO I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN HERE.
UM, AND HAVE THE AGREEMENT OF, OF THE SUBSTANCE, UH, TO MOVE FORWARD.
I THINK IF IT'S WRITTEN UP, UM, WITH, WITH, IF LEGAL LOOKS AT IT, BRINGS IT HERE FIRST AND SAY, OKAY, LET'S, LET'S REALLY LOOK AT THE, THE DETAILS AND HAVE THAT DISCUSSION KNOW THE HISTORY THAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING THIS, THIS, AND THIS, WHICH CITIES ARE DOING WHAT, UM, ARE WE IN THE MIDDLE? ARE WE GONNA BE AT THE TOP? OR WE SORT OF LIKE, CAN WE PUSH IT UP ONE LEVEL OR NOT COMPARED TO ANOTHER CITY THAT'S DOING MORE THAN WE ARE.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO SEE TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AMONGST THE COMMISSION.
AND THEN AT THAT POINT, UH, RECOMMENDED TO GO TO COUNCIL AT, UM, I THINK WE'RE ALL IN FAVOR OF THE CONCEPT AND IDEA, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU NEED RIGHT NOW, IS JUST TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE IDEA THAT GET STAFF TO WORK ON THIS.
UM, BUT TO, TO SEND IT TO COUNCIL AT THIS POINT, I THINK WE'RE NOT, THAT'S NOT QUITE SUBSTANTIAL ENOUGH, UM, FOR, FOR WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN THERE.
OTHERWISE, IS THIS GONNA GET TOSSED BACK, UH, HERE, UH, WITHOUT THAT, CAN I, CAN I ADD TO THAT? THAT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE A, JUST A MORE DETAILED STAFF REPORT.
I MEAN, I, I DON'T, 'CAUSE I CAN, WHEN I LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE, I THINK IT'S REALLY NICELY DONE.
AND I THINK THE, UM, FLYER, WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT, THAT IS VERY NICELY DONE.
I HAVE JUST ONE SUGGESTION ON THAT, BUT TO ME IT FEELS ACTUALLY PRETTY COMPLETE.
IT JUST SEEMS LIKE, I THINK YOUR POINT IS A GOOD ONE THAT FOR COUNCIL, IF THEY GOT A MORE DETAILED STAFF REPORT THAT KIND OF LISTED THE PROCESS AND KIND OF GAVE SOME COMPARISONS WITH OTHER CITIES THAT WOULD GIVE, UH, FOLKS MORE COMFORT.
YOU KNOW, UH, CAN I, CAN I JUST REQUEST, I, THIS IS STARTING TO TURN INTO AN, A DISCUSSION, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, LATER IN THE PROCESS.
I JUST DO, I DID WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC GOT A CHANCE TO, UH, TO COMMENT, UH, BEFORE WE, UH, DOVE INTO OUR WRANGLING.
UH, THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM.
PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON.
IF YOU HAVEN'T DONE SO ALREADY, PLEASE FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD AND BRING IT TO THE CLERK.
WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC COMMENT FROM ANNIE STEWART, I'M SORRY THAT, THAT IT WASN'T COMMUNICATED TO ALL OF YOU THAT AMY HAD ASKED ME TO PRESENT ON BEHALF OF THE AD HOC.
MY NAME IS ANNIE STEWART AND I WAS A MEMBER OF THE AD HOC.
WE HAVE A COUPLE OF MEMBERS HERE.
UM, ALSO, UH, I WAS WITH THE THREE 50 PETALUMA, UH, ZERO WASTE ACTION COMMITTEE FOR, UH, SEVERAL YEARS AND WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PREVIOUS COMMENTS AND TAKING THE TIME TO, TO LOOK THROUGH THAT DOCUMENT CAREFULLY.
UM, THERE WERE A FEW THINGS THAT YOU HAD COMMENTED ON AT THE LAST MEETING WHEN WE DISCUSSED THIS, AND I WANTED TO HAVE A CHANCE TO RESPOND TO THOSE SO YOU WOULD KNOW THAT WE DIDN'T JUST DISMISS THINGS THAT YOU BROUGHT UP AT
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THAT MEETING, THAT WE GAVE IT CAREFUL CONSIDERATION AND, AND TO KNOW HOW WE HANDLED IT WHEN WE REWROTE AND WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE ORDINANCE AND REVISED IT.UM, SO FIRST OF ALL, THERE WAS A REQUEST TO SIMPLIFY THE DOCUMENT A LITTLE BIT.
I DID A LITTLE BIT OF WORK ON THAT IN THE FIRST TWO SECTIONS OF THE DOCUMENT.
UM, WE LEFT, MADE MINOR CHANGES TO THE KEY RECO REQUIREMENTS.
AND THEN MY FEELING WAS THAT THE LAST SECTION ON ENFORCEMENT AND VIOLATIONS, THE CITY WAS MUCH BETTER EQUIPPED TO, TO ADDRESS THAT.
I WAS, DIDN'T FEEL EQUIPPED TO, TO REALLY DIG INTO THAT.
AND I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE A SIMPLER DOCUMENT THAT COULD BE TAKEN OUT, COULD BE USED, THAT YOU COULD LOOK AT AND SEE AN O AS AN OVERVIEW THAT MAYBE, YOU KNOW, IT NEEDS SOME REVISIONS.
AND CERTAINLY I'M NOT A DESIGNER, SO IT COULD BE, IT COULD LOOK PRETTIER, BUT, UM, THAT COULD BE USED TO HELP, UH, IN CONVERSATIONS WITH, UM, THE, THE BUSINESS OWNERS.
SO THAT WAS WHAT THAT SECOND DOCUMENT THAT YOU GOT WAS JUST AN OVERVIEW.
WE LEANED HEAVILY ON THE MARIN WEBSITE, UM, BECAUSE WE LIKED THE WAY THEY HANDLED THAT, THE WAY THEY, THEY VERY, YOU KNOW, SIMPLY, UM, GAVE AN OVERVIEW OF THE REQUIREMENTS, THE EXCEPTIONS, AND, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE DEAL WITH, YOU KNOW, UH, PEOPLE BRINGING IN THEIR OWN, UM, THEIR OWN FOOD WEAR.
SO, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS A BIG POINT OF DISCUSSION WAS, UM, BEHAVIOR CHANGE IS TOUGH.
AND WE, THIS WAS A, LOOKED LIKE A HEAVY LIFT IN PARTICULAR WITH REGARD TO BRINGING IN CONTAINERS, BRINGING IN YOUR OWN CONTAINERS.
AND WE REALLY AGREE WITH THAT.
WE, WE KNOW THAT THAT'S, THAT'S COMPLICATED.
UM, AND WE WANNA KEEP MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION, BUT RECOGNIZE THAT BUSINESS OWNERS ARE NOT REQUIRED TO ACCEPT THEM.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS GOING TO BE A SUDDEN CHANGE FOR BUSINESSES.
EVERYBODY HAS TO ACCEPT, UH, PEOPLE BRINGING IN THEIR CONTAINERS FOR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER.
FOR ALL DIFFERENT RESTAURANTS, THIS IS LIKELY WILL BE A SLOWER CULTURAL SHIFT.
AND THAT'S WHY WE STARTED WITH THAT, WITH THE BRING YOUR OWN WITH, UM, COOL PETALUMA, BRING YOUR OWN CUP.
UM, THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE FINANCIAL CHALLENGES FOR BUSINESSES.
AGAIN, WE DON'T WANT TO DOWNPLAY THAT.
WE RECOGNIZE THAT THAT'S, THAT CAN BE A HEAVY LIFT FOR A LOT OF RESTAURANTS.
UM, THAT THERE'S A COST OF DISHWASHERS ADEQUATE ROOM FOR FOOD WEAR.
AND, AND, AND PATRICK BROUGHT UP THAT, YOU KNOW, A THOUSAND GALLON WASTE INTERCEPTORS REQUIRED, NOT EVERYONE WILL HAVE THE, THE, THE SPACE AND THE MONEY TO DO THAT.
SO WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THOSE THINGS CAREFULLY.
WE DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS TO ALL OF THAT.
THERE MAY BE, YOU KNOW, WAYS TO FUND THOSE, THOSE EFFORTS.
AND YOU KNOW, WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COSTS, AND I DON'T NEED TO PREACH TO THE CHOIR HERE, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO ALWAYS KEEP IN MIND THE EXTERNALIZED COSTS RELATED TO ALL OF THE WASTE AND PLASTIC, UH, HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENTAL AND CLIMATE COSTS IS JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS.
AND YET BEING SENSITIVE TO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.
UH, MORE THAN ONE OF YOU AT THAT LAST MEETING BROUGHT UP THE IDEA OF A PHASED APPROACH.
AND, UM, SO I WANTED TO RESPOND TO THAT.
UM, I THINK THAT, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE THAT KNOW WAY MORE ABOUT THIS THAN I DO THAT HAVE WORKED IN THIS, THIS ARENA, PEOPLE FROM BEYOND PLASTICS ORGANIZATION.
AND THEIR CONCERN IS THAT IF YOU DO, YOU DO THINGS IN PHASES, THEN IT, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY EASIER.
AND IT MAY EXTEND, IT MAY TAKE IT MUCH LONGER TO GET SOMETHING DONE.
UM, AND, UH, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE SAW THAT WITH A, WE STARTED WITH POLY STYRENE AND IT'S TAKEN US SEVERAL YEARS.
PART OF THAT WAS WE WERE WAITING UNTIL WE GOT OUT OF COVID, BUT IT TOOK A WHILE TO GET THE ENGINES RUNNING AGAIN.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER WITH A PHASED APPROACH.
UM, AND THEN I REALLY, UH, I I HAD THE IMPRESSION, UM, THAT, UH, MAYBE SOME PEOPLE FELT COMPOSTABLES WERE A BETTER OPTION THAN, THAN PERHAPS THEY ARE.
EVEN THOUGH ONES THAT ARE TRULY COMPOSTABLE ARE NOT AS CLEAN AND GREEN, I THINK AS MANY OF US THINK, UM, THEY'RE EXPENSIVE.
THEY USUALLY END UP IN LANDFILL.
YOU, YOU KNOW THIS, AND HAVE BEEN FOUND TO HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASED IMPACTS ACROSS EVERY ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT, EVERY ENVIR ENVIRONMENTAL METRIC FROM WATER CONSUMPTION TO OZONE DEPLETION, TO CLIMATE CHANGE WHEN COMPARED TO NON COMPOSTABLE ALTERNATIVES.
AND I COULD SEND MORE INFORMATION IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN THAT.
SO OUR GOAL SHOULD BE TO MINIMIZE THE USE OF ALL SINGLE USE FOOD WEAR AND UTENSILS, NOT JUST PLASTIC.
SO OVERALL, WE WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE THIS IS AN AMBITIOUS.
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UM, WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS RELATIVELY AMBITIOUS ORDINANCE.AND, UM, BUT WE'RE PROUD OF THAT AND WE KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME CHALLENGES THAT COME ALONG WITH IT.
UM, AND WE DID HAVE FOLKS FROM ZERO WASTE SONOMA AND RECOLOGY REVIEW THIS DOCUMENT.
THEY HAD VERY FEW CHANGES, VERY FEW RED FLAGS.
SO, UM, PATRICK HAS LAID OUT SOME OF THE PRO POTENTIAL PROCESS FOR GOING TO THE, TO THE CITY, UH, GOING TO THE BUSINESSES.
SO I JUST WANTED TO RESPOND TO YOUR COMMENTS FROM THAT LAST, UM, THAT LAST MEETING AND EXPLAIN WHAT THAT SECOND DOCUMENT WAS ALL ABOUT.
UH, I GUESS WE LET THE, THE TIME SLIDE THERE, BUT IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT.
SO I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR COMMENTS.
UH, UH, FOR THE CLERK, UH, HAVE YOU RECEIVED ANY OTHER COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING? YES.
SHOULD I READ IT OUT LOUD? SO WE RECEIVED, UH, UM, A COMMENT THAT WAS NOT POSTED TO THE WEBSITE YET.
UM, YEAH, IF, IF YOU WANNA READ IT, MORGAN, IT, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN 'CAUSE IT WAS RECEIVED AT 2:00 PM BUT WE JUST NOW REALIZE THAT IT HAD NOT GOT GOTTEN POSTED.
SO THERE'S ONE PRIOR PUBLIC COMMENT IT READS.
I WAS WONDERING WHY THE COMMISSION MEETING PUBLISHED AGENDA FOR THE STATE NOT LONG AGO BEFORE THE CHANGE TO THE AGENDA NOW PUBLISHED, FEATURED A DETAILED REVIEW OF THE HISTORIC AND CULTURAL PRESERVATION COMMITTEE WITH ANDREW TRIPLE THE M GROUP CONSULTANT AS THE STAFF LIAISON.
WHAT EXACTLY IS, OR WAS THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION'S INVOLVEMENT IN A REVIEW OF THIS ESTABLISHED COMMITTEE OF THE CITY OF PETALUMA, WHY WOULD THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION HAVE ANY ROLE IN THE HCPC? PLEASE PROVIDE A RESPONSE THIS EVENING.
WELL, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE, THE COMMENT.
UM, JUST MAKING SURE I'M NOT MISSING ANYTHING FIRSTHAND.
I GUESS AT THIS POINT, UH, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A, A STEP TO CALL ON ANY IN-PERSON PUBLIC SPEAKERS, BUT THAT SEEMS LIKE WE DON'T, WE'RE DONE WITH, WE'VE DONE THAT.
UH, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMISSION? I THINK WE PROBABLY, YEAH, GO AHEAD.
UM, I'LL SAY AS A DISCUSSION POINT, UM, GIVEN OUR CURRENT SITUATION IN THE CITY AND THE, UM, YOU KNOW, NON-ALIGNMENT OF CERTAIN GROUPS, I DO NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE ADVANCING THIS WITHOUT ANY PEOPLE IN ATTENDANCE AT THIS MEETING.
AND SO, UM, I WOULD PREFER THIS ITEM TO BE NON, ANY PEOPLE THAT ARE RESTAURANT OPERATORS OR WILL BE IMPACTED BY THIS.
MY PERSONAL OPINION IS THAT THE CONVERSATION AND THE MEAT OF THIS DISCUSSION SHOULD TAKE PLACE IN THIS BODY, AND THAT IT SHOULD BE A NON-CONTROVERSIAL ITEM THAT GETS INCLUDED IN THE CONSENT CALENDAR AT THE CITY COUNCIL.
AND I DO NOT WANT TO RECOMMEND ANOTHER CONTROVERSIAL ITEM TO GO BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL.
I DO THINK THERE IS ENOUGH SUBSTANCE IN THIS ORDINANCE THAT COULD BE WORKED OUT BY THIS BODY SUCH THAT THIS CONVERSATION NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE HERE.
BY SIMPLY ADVANCING THIS, WE ARE PUTTING MORE WORK ON THE CITY IN A PERIOD THAT IS ALREADY STRAINED.
AND SO THIS HAS LESS TO DO WITH THE SUBSTANCE OF THE ORDINANCE AND MORE TO DO WITH THE PROCESS.
AND SO, AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE THIS TO BE MAYBE NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT NON-CONTROVERSIAL, BUT I DO NOT WANT TO, TO ADVANCE ANYTHING TO THE CITY SUCH THAT THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL BE ATTACKED BY VOTING ON AN ITEM LIKE THIS.
I WOULD LIKE TO BE ATTACKED FOR VOTING ON THIS, AND I AM NOT GOING TO BE BY ADVANCING IT IN A ROOM OF YOU WONDERFUL PEOPLE.
AND SO, UM, THAT IS MY POSITION ON THE PROCESS OF THIS.
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TO DO WITH THE SUBSTANCE OF THIS.THERE ARE SOME SUBSTATIVE POINTS THAT I'VE MADE PREVIOUSLY, WHICH HAVE NOT CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY, BUT I DO NOT WANT TO ADVANCE THIS TO THE CITY COUNCIL SUCH THAT PEOPLE WILL BE SURPRISED BY IT.
I DON'T THINK THE PILOT THING AS EXPLAINED TO ME, GIVES ME CONFIDENCE THAT THAT WILL NOT HAPPEN.
AND SO THAT IS, I DO NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE PUTTING THIS ON OUR CURRENT CITY COUNCIL AT THIS JUNCTURE.
UH, SO, UH, BEFORE WE GET TO YOUR COMMENTS, UH, I MEAN, WE ARE, WE ARE SHORT, UH, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, AMY AND, AND AND ADMINISTRATOR.
SO I, YOU KNOW, I I'M PERFECTLY FINE PUSHING THIS FORWARD TODAY.
UH, I JUST, MY QUESTION REALLY IS FOR THE STAFF THEN, IF WE ADVANCE THIS OUT TO THE COUNCIL, DO THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO ALTER IT THEMSELVES? I MEAN, THE, IT SEEMS LIKE THEY WOULD 100%.
ULTIMATELY THE, THE POWER RESTS WITH THE COUNCIL WHETHER TO APPROVE IT OR NOT.
UM, AND TO ADDRESS THE NON-CONTROVERSIAL, I, I UNDERSTAND THE RATIONALE BEHIND IT.
IT WOULD BE AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD BE, IT WOULDN'T BE A CONSENT ITEM, I GUESS, IS WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT THERE WOULD BE A, A FIRST HEARING, AN INTRODUCTION, WOULD THERE BE A PUBLIC HEARING WHERE PEOPLE COULD SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST IT, AND THEN A SECOND READING AT A SUBSEQUENT MEETING.
SO IT WOULDN'T BE JUST LIKE SOMETHING THAT GOES ON CONSENT AND THEN IT GOES THROUGH.
BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT THE, THE RATIONALE BEHIND NOT WANTING IT TO BE A GIANT BATTLE OVER IT TO, TO BE KIND OF SOMETHING THAT THERE'S ALMOST CONSENSUS ON.
FIRST OFF, UM, I DO WANNA SEE THIS HAPPEN.
IN FACT, I, I'D LOVE TO SEE ANYTHING, SOMETHING STRONGER MYSELF.
UH, SO ESPECIALLY, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A LOT MORE, UH, ABILITY FOR COMPOSTABLE UTENSIL, UH, WITH THE WOODEN WHATEVER.
'CAUSE RIGHT NOW THE STATE OF THE ART IS NOT THERE, UH, FOR COMBUST, UH, TO ACTUALLY COMPOSE WITH.
BASICALLY YOU, UH, I DON'T EVEN THINK THEY EVEN GO THROUGH THE, UH, UM, YARD TRASH VERY WELL EITHER, UH, AS WELL AS COMPOST.
SO THE, UM, WHAT, UH, ELSE
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PROCESSES THAT MISSING BEFORE IT GOES TO COUNCIL, WHAT REALLY NEEDS TO HAPPEN, UH, HERE IS THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A STAKEHOLDERS OUTREACH.
SO MAYBE STARTING WITH THE FOLKS THAT ARE ALREADY COOL PETALUMA COOPERATORS WITH, WITH THE UTENSILS AND EVERYTHING, AND WITH THE CUPS THAT THESE BUSINESSES ARE THE FIRST STAKEHOLDERS SAY, HEY, UH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO PILOT AND, AND TRY THIS? AND THEN WORK AND THEN SPREAD IT OUT TO THE OTHER RESTAURANTS AND ALL THE FOLKS THAT YOU MENTIONED, BECAUSE THERE'S GONNA BE HUGE PUSHBACK, I BELIEVE, AND WE NEED TO GET THEM ON BOARD THAT YES, THEY CAN DO IT.
THEY'D BE WILLING TO DO IT, UM, IF, IF THE CITY'S COOPERATIVE WITH IT.
BUT THAT STAKEHOLDER NEED TO BE WORKED WITH HERE AND, AND DISCUSSED HERE, UH, BEFORE GOES COUNCIL, 'CAUSE DISCUSS, UH, I THINK YOU WERE CORRECT.
UM, THERE'S ENOUGH CONTROVERSIAL, THIS IS GONNA RAISE HUGE RED FLAGS, UM, AT COUNCIL.
UH, 'CAUSE THE FOLKS OUT THERE GO, WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU DOING? YEP, YEP.
WE HAVE, WE'RE THE RESTAURANTS AND YOU HAVEN'T TALKED TO US.
UH, AND THEN BROUGHT BACK HERE BEFORE IT GOES TO COUNCIL, I THINK.
UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THE PATTERN I WOULD SEE HAPPEN.
I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT, YEAH, WE WANNA MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS AND THE STAFF TO ACTUALLY REACH OUT AND ACTUALLY PRO PROPOSE THIS TO THE STAKEHOLDERS WHO ARE GONNA BE IMPLEMENTING IT.
AND THEN, UM, TO ACTUALLY SAY, LET, LET'S EVEN TRY IT AND SAY, HEY, ARE YOU WILLING TO TRY THIS ON A VOLUNTARY BASIS? UM, ARE YOU WILLING TO WORK WITH US AND DO THIS AND, AND CREATE IT AND, AND, UH, HELP PUBLICIZE IT, GET THE SOCIAL MEDIA BEHIND IT AND GET A PROGRAM SAYING, OKAY, ARE, ARE WE, ARE WE GONNA BE READY TO GO? AND THEN COMING BACK HERE AND SAY, OKAY, NOW WE HAVE THAT BUY-IN.
NOW WE SEND IT TO THE COUNCIL AND SAYING, HEY, WE GOT THE BUY-IN, WE HAVE THE PROCESS.
WE'D HAVE POSITIVE VIBES ON THIS THING.
IF NOT, UM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE ANOTHER THING JUST LIKE WE'RE HAVING RIGHT NOW WITH THE HOTEL.
UH, IS THIS, WE'RE GONNA GET THIS BIG BLOW BACK.
I'D JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS.
LIKE WE INVENTED IT AT A THIN AIR, WHICH WE DID NOT.
THIS, THERE ARE OTHER CITIES, AS WE POINTED OUT IN THE PRESENTATION THAT ARE ALREADY DOING THIS.
WE BORROWED THEIR ORDINANCES THAT ARE IN PLACE.
THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF RESTAURANTS THAT ARE ALREADY DOING THIS.
IT'S NOT NEW, WE'RE JUST GONNA BRING IT HERE.
WE'RE GONNA GET THE BUY-IN FROM RESTAURANTS.
THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE FORCING DOWN ANYBODY'S THROAT.
THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF WORK THAT GOES INTO THIS BEFORE IT GETS TO THE CITY COUNCIL BEFORE IT'S VOTED ON.
SO I'D JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT, THIS IS NOT
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NEW BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION.UH, SO IF I COULD JUMP IN, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT APPROACHES THAT ARE BEING DISCUSSED.
ONE THAT INVOLVES, I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S INTEREST IN STAFF MOVING FORWARD WITH OUTREACH ON THIS, GATHERING THAT BASELINE DATA, PILOTING SOME USES, GETTING THE, LIKE TALKING WITH BUSINESSES THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED.
I DON'T, I'M NOT HEARING ANYBODY SAYING NO, DON'T DO THAT.
BUT THE, THE, THE APPROACH SEEMS TO BE A QUESTION OF WHETHER IT COMES BACK TO THE CAC AFTER THAT, UM, OUTREACH HAS HAPPENED OR GOES DIRECTLY TO THE COUNSEL.
SO MAYBE THAT'S THE DISCUSSION THAT, THAT MAYBE THOSE ARE THE ISSUES WE NEED TO RESOLVE.
UH, WELL, AND MY QUESTION IS, AT WHAT POINT DOES THE ATTORNEY REVIEW IT BEFORE IT GOES TO COUNCIL
I, WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS THE SUMMARY DOCUMENT.
WHAT I'M THINKING ABOUT THAT, IF THERE ARE MAJOR DEPARTURES FROM THAT, I THINK IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO BRING IT BACK TO THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION TO MAKE SURE THAT'S STILL WHAT YOU'RE, THE, THE, THE DOCUMENT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING.
UM, IF THERE'S LIKE A DELETION OF THE ENFORCEMENT SECTION IN THERE AND JUST IT REFERENCES THE CITY'S OVERALL ENFORCEMENT, I DON'T SEE THAT AS SOMETHING THAT WOULD NEED TO COME BACK TO THIS COMMISSION BECAUSE THAT'S HOW WE'RE GONNA ENFORCE THE, THE ORDINANCE LIKE CONSISTENTLY, LIKE WE DO EVERY OTHER ORDINANCE IN, IN THE BODY.
BUT IF IT'S LIKE A, A CHANGE WORD, YOU KNOW, IT'S A A DOLLAR PER ITEM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, SOMETHING DRASTIC THAT, THAT THE COMMISSION HASN'T WEIGHED IN ON, THAT'S WHERE I WOULD SEE, UM, NEED FOR STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE STILL IN ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS.
YEAH, JUST ADD A COUPLE MORE THOUGHTS HERE.
UM, I DON'T KNOW TO WHAT EXTENT PEOPLE RECALL THE MINIMUM WAGE ORDINANCE AND THE VOTE ON THE MINIMUM WAGE ORDINANCE.
AND THAT WAS MONTHS AND MONTHS OF EXACTLY THE SAME EFFORT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.
AND THEN IN THAT ROOM THAT NIGHT, WERE VERY PROMINENT BUSINESS OWNERS THAT YOU WOULD'VE THOUGHT WOULD'VE BEEN TAPPED IN, YOU KNOW, AND THEY WERE, I'M NOT GONNA SAY CLUELESS, BUT THEY ACTED BLINDSIDED BY A PROCESS THAT THE CITY DID.
ITS VERY BEST EFFORT TO ENGAGE.
IT'S, AND THEY DID A VERY VALIANT EFFORT.
BUT THAT MEETING AND THE CONVERSATION AND DISCOURSE AT THAT MEETING WAS, WAS NOT THE TYPE OF COMMUNITY COLLABORATION THAT I THINK WE ASPIRE TO DO.
AND THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT THIS IS NEW OR EVEN TOTALLY CONTROVERSIAL, ANYTHING LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S THAT THE LOWEST COMMON DENOMINATOR IN OUR SOCIETY AND EVEN OUTSIDE OF OUR SOCIETY, USES EXACTLY THESE OPPORTUNITIES TO DIVIDE US.
AND I WANT TO PREVENT THAT TO THE BEST EXTENT I CAN AND TO FOCUS THAT CONVERSATION IN THESE TYPES OF SUBORDINATE BODIES.
THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS COMMISSION.
IF WE'RE SIMPLY TO ADVANCE THIS AND THEN MOVE ON, YOU KNOW, REALLY IT'S JUST GOING TO BE US IN THIS ROOM AND IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY SMALL ROOM AND IT'S GONNA CONTINUE IN THAT WAY.
AND IT IS MY GOAL TO EXPAND THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM, SUCH THAT EVENTUALLY WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PAID PARKING, WHICH I WILL TALK ABOUT WHEN WE GET TO THE AD HOCS, THAT WE'LL HAVE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM TALKING ABOUT THIS AND NOT AT THE CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, MORE, I'M NOT GONNA SAY MORE IMPORTANT THINGS TO DO, BUT JUST MORE THINGS TO DO.
AND SO I DO, BASED ON WHAT I SAW TRANSPIRE DURING THE VOTING ON THE MINIMUM WAGE ORDINANCE, OKAY, IF WE CAN REMEMBER THAT OR IF YOU WERE NOT PARTICIPATING IN THAT, I CAN TELL YOU IF THE ROOM WAS FULL, IT WAS JUST LIKE THE HOTEL.
PEOPLE WERE LIKE, THIS IS CRAZY.
WE'RE GONNA LOSE OUR BUSINESSES.
AND IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, AND NOT RATIONAL, VERY EMOTIONAL.
AND SO THAT IS WHAT I AM JUST TRYING TO RAISE AWARENESS AROUND.
AND I AM, I, YOU KNOW, SHOULD WE CHOOSE TO ADVANCE SOMETHING TONIGHT TO THE NEXT STEP? I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR IN WHAT OUR MOTIONS ARE ON THAT, PATRICK.
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YOU CAN HELP THAT IN SOME WAY, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I DO NOT WANNA SEE THAT TAKE PLACE AT THE CITY COUNCIL WHEN THIS IS DISCUSSED.AND SO THAT IS, I'LL JUST END THERE.
I FEEL LIKE I'D LIKE TO GET AN WORD EDGEWISE HERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, YEAH, I THINK IT'S, IT'S TOUGH, BUT COUNCILS HAVE TO TAKE TOUGH VOTES.
UH, IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE ADVANCING THIS TONIGHT WOULD PRECLUDE A PUBLIC INPUT PROCESS AT ALL.
I THINK THAT JUST GETS THE BALL ROLLING.
THERE WILL PROBABLY BE CHANGES THAT WILL BRING IT BACK TO THIS COMMISSION.
I, I DON'T KNOW THAT IF WE DID THE MOST PERFECT OUTREACH IN THE WORLD, WE'D GET MORE THAN A FEW BUSINESSES IN HERE ANYWAYS.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, 7:00 PM
I KNOW, BUT WE, WE TRY TO ENTERTAIN, BUT I, I DON'T, I REALLY DON'T SEE HOW ADVANCING THIS TONIGHT PRECLUDES A PUBLIC INPUT PROCESS THAT GOES OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND GOES TO THE BUSINESSES WHERE THEY ARE.
I DON'T REALLY THINK YOU'RE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE AS MUCH LUCK GETTING BUSINESSES IN HERE, AND YOU'RE GONNA GET BUSINESSES IF THIS THING PASSES AND GOES TO COUNCIL.
THE COUNCIL CAN AND THE CITY CAN DO THE BEST JOB OF EVER OF TRYING TO GET PUBLIC INPUT.
AND YOU'LL STILL GET PEOPLE FLOODING THE ROOM THAT SAY IT'S CONTROVERSIAL AND DON'T DO IT.
THAT'S KIND OF, TO ME, THAT'S SOMEWHAT THE NATURE OF, UH, DEMOCRACY.
AND, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT, YOU GOT ELECTED, YOU GOTTA TAKE SOME TOUGH VOTES SOMETIMES.
SO I, I DON'T EVEN AGREE WITH EVERYTHING IN THIS ORDINANCE.
WE, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT LAST TIME, BUT I'D MUCH RATHER JUST GET SOMETHING GOING THAN WAITING THREE MORE MONTHS.
UNLESS PATRICK, I GUESS FOR ME THE QUESTION IS IF WE ADVANCE THIS TONIGHT, HOW I WANNA JUST UNDERSTAND WHAT ARE THE STAKES OF LIKE THE COUNCIL PUSHING IT BACK AND THEN ARE WE, ARE WE ACTUALLY DELAYING THINGS BY NOT CONSIDERING IT MORE? I THINK THAT'S, I MIGHT BE AN OPEN-ENDED QUESTION HERE, BUT IF, IF IS DO IS YOUR, THE WAY THESE THINGS TYPICALLY WORK, IF WE SEND THIS THING AND IT'S CONSIDERED TO BE HALF BAKED AND IT GETS KICKED BACK TO US, ARE WE ACTUALLY LENGTHENING THE PROCESS? SO LIKE, I'M OPEN TO, TO WAITING A MONTH AND, AND REALLY, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THIS THING IS PERFECT, BUT I'M ALSO OKAY JUST ADVANCING IT.
SO I, I THINK THAT THE BLOWBACK, IF IT WENT TO COUNCIL AND THEY DID NOT FEEL LIKE IT WAS FULLY FLESHED OUT AND, AND READY FOR CONSIDERATION, I DON'T THINK THE BLOWBACK WOULD NECESSARILY BE ON THE COMMISSION AS MUCH AS STAFF BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S ON STAFF TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL.
AND IF THEY FEEL LIKE IT'S INADEQUATE, THEY DO, AND
UM, FROM, FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE, WE WOULD NOT JUST TURN AROUND AND PUT THIS ORDINANCE, YOU KNOW, HAVE LEGAL REVIEW AND, AND PUT IT IN FRONT OF COUNSEL.
WE WOULD, WE WOULD DO THE OUTREACH.
WE WOULD NOT PUT FORWARD AN ORDINANCE THAT WE DIDN'T FEEL LIKE IT HAD BEEN VETTED, THAT THE OUTREACH HAD BEEN, UM, THOROUGH WITH THE COMMUNITY.
UM, I, I GUESS JUST THE, THE ONLY OTHER THING IS, UM, WOULD THE COMMISSION LIKE TO SEE THAT ONCE WE'VE KIND OF GOTTEN IT TO THAT SEMI-FINAL FORM AND HAVE ONE LAST CHANCE TO SAY YAY OR NAY ON THAT BEFORE IT GOES TO COUNCIL? OR WOULD YOU PREFER AN APPROACH THAT STAFF THAT'S IN YOUR HANDS NOW AND WE'RE GONNA SHOW UP AT THE COUNCIL MEETING TO GIVE OUR SUPPORT THEN AND THERE.
AND IT WOULD BE AWKWARD IF IT WAS A NO
SO, UM, IT MAY BE HELPFUL TO HAVE ANOTHER STEP, BUT MAYBE NOT THE SAME LEVEL OF INVOLVEMENT AS HAS BEEN TO THIS POINT FROM THE AD HOC.
I'VE HEARD AMY SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE KIND OF DONE ALL THAT WE CAN DO AT THIS POINT AND WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON AND DO SOMETHING ELSE.
AND, YOU KNOW, STAFF YOU, YOU FIGURE OUT WHAT IT, WHAT IT NEEDS TO GET THE COUNCIL AT THAT POINT.
SO, SO THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT APPROACHES.
DOES IT COME BACK HERE FOR LIKE ONE LAST CHECK-IN OR DOES IT GO TO THE COUNCIL AFTER STAFF'S DONE ITS PROCESS AND YOU WEIGH IN AT THAT POINT C, CAN THE, UM, CAN, CAN STAFF CONFER WITH THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR, UM, TO SEE IF IT, THE AMOUNT OF CHANGE THAT'S TAKEN PLACE OVER THAT PERIOD WARRANTS IT COMING BACK AND IZING IT? IF, IF THE COMMISSION WANTS TO DELEGATE THAT AUTHORITY TO THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY COULD DO.
YEAH, BECAUSE I, I MEAN, PERSONALLY
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I'D LIKE TO SEE THIS KEEP MOVING.I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LOT OF WORK BY THE AD HOC AND THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER TOPICS I COMPLETELY APPRECIATE, UM, WHAT CHAIR PETERS IS SAYING AND ALSO, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER SHRI.
UM, BUT I THINK IN FAIRNESS, ALL THE WORK THAT WAS DONE, IT FEELS LIKE IT'S AT THE POINT WHERE STEPH NEEDS TO CARRY THE BALL, YOU KNOW, AND THAT YOU'RE CAPABLE OF CARRYING THE BALL AND THAT WE'VE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WE'RE ASKING YOU TO DO THE OUTREACH AND WE'RE ASKING YOU TO VET IT WITH THE LEGAL TEAM, AND THEN WE'RE ASKING YOU TO, TO, UM, CONFER WITH THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR IF IT NEEDS TO COME BACK TO THIS COMMISSION FOR FURTHER WORK OR FURTHER CONVERSATION WITH THE KIND OF MORE ENGAGED COMMUNITY AROUND THIS.
DOES THAT SOUND LIKE A REASONABLE PROCESS TO EVERYBODY? UH, I, I'D LIKE TO LET COUNCIL MEMBER SRI WEIGH IN ONE LAST TIME, BUT THEN I THINK I, I'M READY TO, TO START COALESCING OUR, OUR POSITION ON THIS.
UM, I TOTALLY AGREE THAT THIS IS NOT NEW.
OTHER CITIES ARE DOING IT, BUT IT IS NEW FOR US.
AND A MAJOR COMPLAINT RIGHT NOW IS THE STAKEHOLDERS WHO ARE GOING TO BE MOST AFFECTED.
UM, DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE, WHAT WAS HAPPENING UNTIL IT WAS ALREADY BEFORE COUNCIL.
SO MY RECOMMENDATION IS WE MOVE FORWARD, STAFF WANT, WE MOVE FORWARD.
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS, UM, REACH OUT TO AT LEAST 50 OF THE MAJOR STAKEHOLDERS, THE RESTAURANTS, AND EVERYBODY THAT'S ON THAT LIST.
UH, JUST SEND, SEND A MEMOIR WITH THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE THAT IS ALREADY BEING DISCUSSED SAYING, HEY, WE'RE THINKING OF PUTTING THIS ORDINANCE IN PLACE.
UH, IT'S GONNA BE GOOD FOR A COMMUNITY.
IT'S GONNA BE DOING THIS AND THIS, THIS, AND, AND PLEASE COME BACK TO THIS NEXT COUNCIL MEETING AND WE'LL HAVE A REAL DISCUSSION WHERE THEY GET TO PRESENT THEIR VIEWPOINTS TO THIS COMMITTEE AND SAYING, OKAY.
AND THEN WE CAN ACTUALLY DO THE WORK HERE AND HAVE STAKEHOLDERS, THE KEY ONES THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO SAY, THE MCDONALD'S, THE, UH, THE TACO BELLS, THE, UM, 'CAUSE THE, THE MAJOR PLAYERS WHO ARE GOING TO HAVE LAWYERS HERE ARE GONNA SAY YAY OR NAY ON US IF, IF THEY'RE NOT AGREEING WHATEVER, UM, IF THEY'RE, WHAT'S THAT? BECAUSE THOSE FOLKS HAVE THE MONEY TO SEND THEIR LAWYERS IN, IT'S NOT THEM, BUT THE, BUT INVITE THEIR CURRENT MANAGERS HERE, UM, AND SAY, HEY, COULD YOU, COULD YOU WORK WITH YOUR CORPORATE HEADS AND SAY, IS THIS GOING TO, TO WORK FOR YOU IN YOUR PROCESSES? UH, AND THEN EVERYONE ELSE THAT IS ON THAT LIST, LET'S ASK THEM, HEY, WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE GONNA BE DOING THIS.
THIS IS GONNA BE REALLY GOOD FOR US.
PLEASE COME GIVE US YOUR VIEWPOINT AND, AND, AND, AND SAY, HEY, YAY OR NAY AND, AND WHAT YOU WANT.
BUT THAT DISCUSSION NEEDS TO HAPPEN HERE, NOT AT CITY COUNCIL NEEDS TO BE HAPPENING BEFORE IT GOES TO CITY COUNCIL.
'CAUSE 'CAUSE OTHERWISE, UM, WE'RE GONNA BE DEALING WITH THE, THE PARKING ISSUES ABOUT TO COME UP.
UM, AND THAT'S, I I THINK IT'S INAPPROPRIATE THIS TIME TO BRING THAT FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL.
WELL, YOU DEAL WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS WHO ARE MAD AT US.
SO, JUST TO UNDERSTAND, CAN YOU, CAN YOU SUCCINCTLY, UH, DESCRIBE THIS SO WE CAN ADD, MAKE IT A MOTION? YEAH.
THE, THE MOTION WOULD BE I WOULD LIKE STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AN OUTREACH TO THE STAKEHOLDERS AND TO BRING STAKEHOLDERS HERE, INVITE THEM TO COME HERE TO, UH, TO HAVE A, A DISCUSSION FROM THEIR POINT OF VIEW.
DOES THAT, AND IS THAT, SORRY, IS YOUR MOTION IN PARALLEL WITH ADVANCING THE ORDINANCE OR IS IT IN PLACE OF OH NO, IT'S ADVANCING THE ORDINANCE AND SAYING, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT.
SO ADVANCING IS, I WANT INVEST THE ORDINANCE, BUT THE, THE STEPS WOULD BE FIRST STAKEHOLDERS HAVE A DISCUSSION HERE, AND THEN AFTER THAT DISCUSSION, IF IT'S GONNA WORK, LET'S, LET'S MOVE IT FORWARD.
BUT, BUT THAT DISCUSSION SHOULD BE HAPPENING IN THIS COMMITTEE, NOT IN COUNCIL.
I, YOU KNOW, I WILL, I WILL GO ALONG WITH THE TEAM.
I PERSONALLY THINK THAT WE, THAT THERE IS AN OUTREACH ELEMENT ALREADY THAT STAFF WOULD BE DOING.
AM I ALONE ON THAT? IS THAT, UH, IS THAT, ARE YOU NODDING THAT I'M ALONE?
UH, WELL, NO ONE'S ALONE HERE.
I, YOU KNOW, I, I'M IN ALIGNMENT THAT, UM, WITH A MOTION TO ADVANCE THE ORDINANCE TO THE CITY ATTORNEY REVIEW, ALONG WITH OUTREACH TO STAKEHOLDERS AND TO DIRECT THE FEEDBACK OF THOSE STAKEHOLDERS AND THE CITY ATTORNEY BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE.
SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
AND I DO SUPPORT ADVANCING THIS DOCUMENT TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S REVIEW, AS WELL AS STAFF OUTREACH TO THOSE BOTH LOCAL BUSINESS AND MULTINATIONAL CORPORATIONS,
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UH, WHO ARE GOING TO BE DULY IMPACTED BY THIS, WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT FEEDBACK BE REDIRECTED BACK TO THIS BODY AND NOT TO, UM, THE CHAIR OR VICE CHAIR AT THEIR DISCRETION.SO THAT IS A, A DISTINCTION I'LL MAKE, UH, DAN, ANY, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT WERE, WHICH CAMP ARE YOU IN HERE? BECAUSE I, I'M, I MEAN, TO ME IT SOUNDS LIKE ANY, IF THERE'S OUTREACH THAT'S DONE BY THE CITY STAFF, THAT THE STAFF WOULD RECEIVE THAT INPUT, IS THAT RIGHT? LIKE THE STAFF WOULD RECEIVE INPUT AND COULD ACT ON THAT IN OUR, OUR, YEAH.
OUTREACH IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD DO BEFORE BRINGING IT TO COUNCIL.
AND, AND, AND POTENTIALLY LIKE, OH, WOW, THERE'S A RED FLAG THAT A BUSINESS BROUGHT UP.
LET'S, LET'S, YOU KNOW, ACT ON THAT.
SO, SO I GUESS WHAT I HEARD IS THERE'S A MOTION A SECOND ON THIS IDEA THAT GO TO THE CITY ATTORNEY, GO DO YOUR OUTREACH AND COME BACK TO THE CAC.
IT SOUNDS LIKE THE OTHER POTENTIAL MOTION, POTENTIAL SIDE DISCUSSION WOULD BE GO DO THE OUTREACH, BRING IT TO CITY ATTORNEY, AND THEN HAVE THAT FINAL DISCUSSION AT THE CLIMATE OR THE CITY COUNCIL.
SO THE MOTION THAT'S ON THE TABLE THAT I HEARD WAS OUTREACH CITY, RETURN ATTORNEY REVIEW, CAC, VENDOR COUNCIL.
SO, AND WHAT, AND, AND OUTREACH HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN INTEGRAL PART OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.
IN FACT, WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING, UM, RESTAURANTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDER THIS ORDINANCE, SAY IN MARIN COUNTY, COME UP AND MEET WITH RESTAURANT OWNERS HERE IN PETALUMA.
INVITE THEM AND SAY, AND HAVE THEM SPEAK AND SAY, THIS IS HOW IT WORKED FOR US.
THIS IS HOW WE IMPLEMENTED IT.
UH, I THINK WHAT THEY'LL FIND IS IT'S A COST SAVINGS MEASURE.
SO I SAW A PRESENTATION ON THIS, UH, FROM THE CITY OF ALAMEDA A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO AT A CONFERENCE IN ROANOKE PARK.
AND, YOU KNOW, RESTAURANT OWNERS WERE VERY HESITANT ABOUT THIS, BUT WHAT THEY FOUND IS IT SAVED THEM A TON OF MONEY.
SO THEY WERE VERY HAPPY WITH AFTER THE ROLLOUT.
AND EVEN THOUGH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HAVING THEM CHARGE, SAY, 25 CENTS FOR EACH, YOU KNOW, CARRY OUT ITEM, UH, CONTAINER WITH A MAXIMUM OF $2.
THE RESTAURANT IS MAKING MONEY ON THAT DEAL.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE THERE'S A COST.
THERE'S ACTUALLY, IT'S A, IT'S A SOURCE OF REVENUE FOR THEM.
SO IS, ARE YOU IN THE DAVE? SO I AM, I AM, I AM IN THE CAMP OF ADVANCING THIS, HAVING THE CITY STAFF DO THEIR THING, HAVING THE CITY ATTORNEY DO THEIR THING.
AND IF YOU WANT IT BROUGHT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE FOR A FINAL LOOK.
SOUNDS LIKE WE'VE GOT THREE FOR THE, THE MOTION THAT'S BEFORE US.
UH, I JUST, I DO WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR LIKE I HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE ORDINANCE.
WHAT I JUST WANT TO AVOID IS GETTING SO BOGGED DOWN IN ENDLESS PROCESS THAT IS MEANT TO BE, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO, TO APPEASE, UH, STAKEHOLDERS WHO MAY END UP JUST BEING AGAINST IT ANYWAYS.
I, I THINK WE, WE SOMETIMES, AS AS A CITY JUST HAVE TO BE READY FOR BLOWBACK.
LIKE, IT, WE DON'T, WE WON'T ADVANCE ANYTHING IF WE DON'T DIVE INTO SOME CONTROVERSY.
THERE'S JUST NOT GONNA BE, UH, THERE'S NOT ALWAYS GONNA BE ABLE TO GET EVERYBODY ON BOARD.
WE, WE MAKE A GOOD FAITH EFFORT.
I JUST DON'T WANNA BE HERE IN A YEAR GOING, WELL, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS FOOD WASTE ORDINANCE FOR A YEAR NOW, AND NOW WE'RE READY TO MOVE.
SO MY, MY ONLY, MY ONLY HOPE WOULD BE THAT THIS, THIS PROCESS DOESN'T BE, TAKE MORE THAN FOUR MONTHS TO COME BACK AND GET A FINAL VOTE OUT.
IS THAT, DOES THAT SEEM REASONABLE? I, I THINK WE'D TRY BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.
SO SIX MONTHS, FIVE MONTHS, FIVE.
I, I MEAN, I'M OPEN TO PUTTING IT, ADDING A TIME LIMITED RETURN TO THE COMMISSION, TO THE MOTION THAT'S ON THE TABLE.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
UH, AND THE FINAL COMMENT I'LL SAY ON THE MATTER IS, UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THE PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD EVER ADVANCE SOMETHING IN THIS WAY.
AND ME PERSONALLY, IF WE ARE, I FEEL THAT IF WE ARE TO BE SERIOUS ABOUT THIS CLIMATE EMERGENCY THAT WE ARE IN, WE NEED TO AT LEAST ELEVATE THIS BODY TO THE LEVEL OF PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND SO I AM THINKING ABOUT IT IN THAT WAY.
THINGS DO NOT PROCEED FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT ARE NOT WHERE THIS CONVERSATION TAKES PLACE.
SO THAT, THAT'S HOW I'M THINKING ABOUT THIS, IS THIS BODY NEEDS TO BE ELEVATED TO THE SERIOUSNESS OF THE CRISIS WE'RE IN.
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WOULD 90 DAYS, IS THAT TOO SHORT FOR THE LAWYER TO WEIGH IN AND DO THE OUTREACH AND ALL THAT? I MEAN, I, I THINK OUR, OUR CITY ATTORNEY IS INCREDIBLY BUSY RIGHT NOW, UM, WITH MOBILE HOME ORDINANCE WITH MM-HMMUM, THERE'S A LOT ON THEIR PLATE.
SO I CANNOT COMMIT TO THAT TIMELINE ON THEIR BEHALF.
I CAN JUST SAY THAT IT WOULD BE OUR GOAL TO GET TO IT BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.
I MEAN, IT, IT'S, I'M NOT GONNA GIVE YOU A BINDING.
WE'LL MAKE IT BY THIS DATE OR THERE'S CONSEQUENCES BECAUSE I CAN'T, I CAN'T DO THAT.
I'M SURE YOU GUYS ARE ALL COMPLETELY JUST OVERWORKED.
I THINK HE, HE GO FOR IT, HIS NAME FIRST.
UM, YEAH, AT THIS POINT, UM, TO HAVE THE LAWYER, HIS ORDINANCE IS ALREADY PRETTY SET.
I THINK BEFORE EVEN THE LAWYER EVEN SHOULD SEE ANYTHING, THE OUTREACH HAS GOTTA BE DONE FIRST AND COMPLETED, WHICH IS A STAFF ISSUE.
UM, COULD YOU TWO ACTUALLY HAS THREE OR THREE, THREE OF YOU, UM, GET AN OUTREACH, EVEN IF IT'S A QUICK OUTREACH TO, TO 10 15 PEOPLE, UH, BUSINESSES THAT ARE GONNA BE HIGHLY AFFECTED JUST AS A PILOT SURVEY.
AND COULD YOU REACH OUT AND, UM, IF IT TAKES, WAS JUST HAVE A DISCUSSION AND THEN EITHER BRING 'EM IN OR INDIVIDUALLY JUST CALL 'EM UP, VISIT THEM, TALK ABOUT THIS THING.
BUT WE NEED TO HAVE, AS LONG AS WE GET SOME STAKEHOLDER INPUT, UH, LOCALLY, NOT, NOT JUST, OKAY.
UH, 'CAUSE WE, WE WANT THIS TO HAPPEN, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE A GOOD POSITIVE SOCIAL MEDIA VIBE FIRST FROM THE STAKEHOLDERS, UH, TO ADVANCE THIS.
SO THAT'S WHAT I'M SORT OF PROMOTING.
AND, AND BEFORE IT EVEN GOES, BEFORE THE LAWYER, JUST TAKE WHAT WE HAVE NOW, DO THE OUTREACH, AND THEN COME BACK AND IF, IF IT GOES, IF YOU FEEL LIKE IT'S COMFORTABLE FOR COUNCIL, YEAH.
IF YOU'RE, IF THAT'S, IF IT'S THAT GOOD, UM, BUT I'M THAT, I'M SAYING, BUT YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN DECIDE, BRING IT HERE TO THE COUNCIL.
I THINK YOU UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION.
SO, UM, BUT WE WANNA SEE, MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S SOME FORM OF OUTREACH THAT YOU'RE COMFORTABLE SO THAT WE CAN MOVE IT FORWARD.
SORRY, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, I JUST, THINGS GOT A LITTLE, WE, WE'VE, WE'VE ZAGGED HERE A LITTLE BIT, RIGHT? I MEAN, YES.
I'M, I'M ZAGG WHAT I'M DOING IS TAKING THE LAWYER OFF THE, THE MOTION AND JUST SAYING, LET'S GET THE STAFF TO DO THE OUTREACH AND MAKE IT 60 DAYS JUST FOR THAT IS WHAT AMEND.
I DON'T, I REALLY DON'T SEE WHY, WHY WOULDN'T WE WANT TO, EVEN IF THE LAWYER'S GOT A LONG, YOU KNOW, LIST OF STUFF TO DO, PUT IT AT THE BACK OF THAT LIST.
IS THERE, IS THERE A RISK OF, OF, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S GONNA TAKE A LONG TIME ANYWAYS TO GET TO IT, RIGHT? BUT, BUT THE LAWYERS CAN DEAL WITH IT AFTER EVEN COMES TO COUNSEL.
UM, I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THE, UH, LAWYERS CHANGE, THEY'RE GONNA CHANGE THE LANGUAGE, WHATEVER.
BUT, UM, THAT COULD HAPPEN SIX MONTHS FROM NOW.
I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.
AND THE STAKEHOLDERS IS THE CRITICAL PART.
CAN I, CAN WE GET, UH, STAFF TO WEIGH IN ON THAT QUESTION? I, I DON'T, AGAIN, I DON'T.
SO IF, IF YOU WANT TO DELEGATE TO STAFF THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO BRING IT TO THE CITY ATTORNEY, I THINK THAT'S FINE.
LIKE, WE'LL, WE'LL NOT DO THIS IN, IN ABSENCE OF THEIR COUNSEL.
UM, I THINK I'M HEARING CONSENSUS ON WANTING STAFF TO BEGIN THAT OUTREACH AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
AND THEN, UM, I'M, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK I HEARD A MAJORITY THAT WANTS IT TO COME BACK TO THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION PRIOR TO GOING TO COUNCIL.
SO MAYBE THAT'S THE MOTION THAT SHOULD BE VOTED ON.
AND, UM, I WAS JUST GONNA ADD, I, I THINK THE, UM, THE FLYER IS REALLY HELPFUL.
I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE, I'M SORRY, I THINK THE FLYER'S REALLY HELPFUL.
I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE MADE A LITTLE MORE CLEAR WHY THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION IS DOING THIS RATHER THAN SOME OTHER GROUP.
'CAUSE I THINK IT IS A LITTLE BIT OF LIKE CLIMATE ACTION, FOOD WEAR.
LIKE, IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO CONNECT THE KNOTS, IT'LL BE A LITTLE BIT JARRING.
SO MAYBE, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THAT PARTICULAR PART NEEDS TO BE REALLY DIALED IN, UM, IN TERMS OF, UH, OUTREACH PROCESS.
UM, GONNA SUGGEST THAT YOU MOSTLY FOCUS ON LOCAL BUSINESSES AND REGIONAL BUSINESSES.
I THINK THAT KIND OF WHATEVER, MULTINATIONALS, WHATEVER ARE GONNA DO WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T ANTICIPATE, I MEAN, YOU COULD REACH OUT TO THEM, BUT I DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE THAT AMENABLE TO OUR LOCAL PREFERENCES.
UH, SO I THINK WE COULD JUST, I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS TO REACH OUT TO, UM, PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN PETALUMA WHO, UM, WORK IN PETALUMA WHO HAVE BUSINESSES IN PETALUMA, YOU KNOW, WHO CARE ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY AND THIS, YOU KNOW, SONOMA COUNTY, YOU KNOW, MORE GENERALLY IS WHERE I WOULD FOCUS.
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UM, YOU KNOW, TO DO A DECENT OUTREACH PROJECT PROCESS.I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD DO THAT IN 60 DAYS, TO BE HONEST.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I DO THEM AND THAT'S PRETTY TIGHT.
'CAUSE YOU HAVE TO CONCEIVE A BIT.
I, WE COULD DO A GOOD BASELINE, BUT IN TERMS OF PILOTING USES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD BE VERY, VERY DIFFICULT IN 60 DAYS.
SO I THINK IT'S A QUESTION, BUT REACHING OUT TO ALL THE BUS THIS AFFECTED BUSINESSES COULD HAPPEN FOR SURE.
SO YOU COULD GIVE 'EM A PRE PRELIMINARY KIND OF LOOK AT, THIS IS WHAT'S GOING ON.
THIS IS WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING.
THIS IS WHY WE'D LOVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH YOU IF YOU'RE INTERESTED.
AND THEN IF WE COME BACK TO THIS BODY, THEN WE CAN, WE HAVE THEIR CONTACT INFORMATION.
WE CAN LET THEM KNOW THAT IT WILL BE DISCUSSED ON THIS DATE THAT MAYBE ADDRESSES SOME OF YOUR CONCERNS THAT PEOPLE YEAH, I REALLY, I REALLY LIKE THE, THIS WILL BE DISCUSSED ON THIS DATE IN THIS ROOM WITH THIS BODY.
I, MY ONLY COMMENT WAS TO MAKE THAT A WORKSHOP RATHER THAN A MEETING.
TO THE EXTENT THAT'S DIFFERENT, BUT, YOU KNOW, THE OUTREACH NEEDS TO HAVE, TO ME, I WOULD PREFER THE OUTREACH TO HAVE A DATE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IMPACTED TO RETURN TO THIS ROOM AND HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.
AND THAT IS AS IMPORTANT AS THEM READING AND INTERACTING WITH THE ORDINANCE AS THEY'RE INVITED TO COME INTO THIS ROOM AND HAVE THAT CONVERSATION IN A WORKSHOP SETTING.
I JUST, UH, JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IT THAT THERE, IS THERE A CONSENSUS ON MOVING FORWARD WITH THE MOTION FROM ENOUGH? FROM A MAJORITY? YEAH.
I THINK WE'RE JUST KIND OF WORDSMITHING A LITTLE BIT.
IF SOMEONE WANTS TO PROPOSE IT, I THINK WE'RE KIND OF, ARE WE GONNA ACTUALLY TRY AND SET A DATE? IS KIND OF WHERE WE ARE, I THINK AT THIS MOMENT.
IS THAT HELPFUL TO SET A DATE? LIKE IT'S A BIT OF A DEADLINE, WHICH IS, CAN BE HELPFUL.
IT'S NOT FOR THE LAWYER, IT'S JUST FOR SOME BASIC OUT PROOF.
IT'S FOR COME BACK HERE WITH COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC FOR DISCUSSION CHANGES IN THE, IN THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE.
AND ALSO TO GIVE PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO AIR THEIR PERSPECTIVES BEFORE IT GOES TO COUNCIL.
SO IF THEY SHOW UP AT COUNCIL, YOU, YOU KNOW, WE CAN SAY, HEY, YOU HAD AN, TO ME, YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN WHEN THIS WAS A WORK IN PROCESS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S AS HELPFUL TO STAFF.
I WAS GONNA SUGGEST THE NOVEMBER MEETING SO THAT BY THE TIME WE GET TO THE NOVEMBER MEETING, THE OUTREACH HAS BEEN DONE.
AND ANYTHING ELSE? OR IS IT JUST OUT? NO, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.
YOU KNOW, THE OUTREACH HAS BEEN DONE BY THE NOVEMBER MEETING.
YOU KNOW, I I WILL, I WILL LOOK, IF SOMEONE WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION, THAT'S FINE WITH ME.
I WILL BE VOTING NO, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WHAT, WHAT THE AD HOC DID WAS VERY HARD WORK.
THERE IS A PUBLIC OUTREACH COMPONENT TO THE PROCESS THAT'S ALREADY LAID OUT.
I I JUST, WE'RE GONNA BE BACK, BACK HERE IN NOVEMBER.
AND THEN IT WILL HAVE TO GO TO STAFF AND THEY'LL MAKE THEIR CHANGES AND THEN CITY COUNCIL WILL MAKE THEIR CHANGES.
UH, TO ME, I'M JUST LIKE, I, I AM, IT'S UNCLEAR TO ME THAT THIS PROCESS WILL, WILL MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE TO THOSE WHO ARE GOING TO OPPOSE THIS ORDINANCE ANYWAYS.
AND I'D BE, I THINK WITH THE HOTEL EXPERIENCE, WE'VE SEEN THAT PEOPLE ARE JUST IMPLACABLE, OR, WHAT'S THE WORD? IS IT IMPLACABLE? THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE MOVED BY OUTREACH.
HOW MUCH OUTREACH WE DO, WE DO FOR THE HOTEL.
I THINK THAT WE JUST SHOULD GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS THAT INCLUDES THE OUTREACH AND, AND THEN FREE OURSELVES TO MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS.
I, I'M, AGAIN, IF YOU ALL WANNA MAKE A MOTION, PLEASE DO.
I, UNLESS THERE'S, YOU KNOW, I, I'M OKAY.
IT'S OKAY IF WE DISAGREE SOMETIMES
IT'S PERFECTLY OKAY IF WE JUST, SOMETIMES WE DISAGREE.
ANY, ANY OTHER, UM, YEAH, I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF, UM, THE PROPOSAL, LIKE HAVING A WORKSHOP AND HAVING IT HERE.
UM, AND THE TIMELINE ON IT COULD BE SHORT.
IT WAS, IF, IF THERE'S OUTREACH TO MAYBE JUST JUST 10 FOLKS WITHIN A WEEK OR TWO, WE COULD ACTUALLY PUT IT ON THE VERY NEXT AGENDA EVEN AND SAY, HEY, UH, COME YOU'VE PUT IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
YOU PUT IT IN THE NEWSPAPER, UH, SAY, HEY, HEY, THIS, THIS IS WHERE THE DIRECTION THAT, THAT THIS COMMITTEE WAS GOING TO GO.
AND THE VERY NEXT, OUR VERY NEXT MEETING, COME TALK TO US, SEE WHAT YOU THINK, AND THEN MOVE IT FORWARD FROM THERE.
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CAN MAKE THIS QUICK.IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A LONG DRAWN OUT AFFAIR.
IT'S JUST, AS YOU SAID, IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE LONG DRAWN OUT.
JUST, JUST GIVE THE FOLKS OPPORTUNITY.
MY CON MY CONCERN IS LIKE, JUST FOR THE LEDS WE HAD, WE HAD A LITTLE POSTCARD THAT WENT OUT.
I'VE TALKED TO MY NEIGHBORS WHO SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED IT.
THEY HAVE NO CLUE BECAUSE LITTLE POSTCARD, OH, THAT WAS JUNK BOIL.
SO IT'S GOTTA BE A PERSONAL CONTACT, WALK INTO THE BUSINESS, HEY, UM, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS? AND THEN WHAT WOULD YOU COME TO THIS MEETING? AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO PUBLICIZE IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
THEY'RE GONNA START TALKING ABOUT IT.
NEWSPAPER'S GONNA PICK IT UP, AND THEN IT'S GONNA BE AN EVENT HERE.
SO THAT COULD HAPPEN PRETTY FAST.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO TAKE SIX MONTHS.
I HAVE, I, I, I'M LESS HAPPY ABOUT THE IDEA OF LIKE DEVOTING A WHOLE MEETING OF OURS TO, TO A WORKSHOP, YOU KNOW, COMING BACK ON THIS ISSUE.
IT FEELS TO ME LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT SHOULD COME BACK IN A FINISHED FORM.
PEOPLE WANT TO COMMENT ON IT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S FINE.
BUT, UM, YEAH, I MEAN THAT, THAT'S KIND OF RAISING A WHOLE NOTHER BAR, HAVING A, UM, A WORKSHOP HERE ON THAT PARTICULAR TOPIC.
YOU KNOW, AND, AND THERE'S A DOWNTOWN ASSOCIATION, THERE'S A CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, THERE'S A RESTAURANT OWNERS GROUP.
I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO BE RELATIVELY EASY TO GET THE WORD OUT AND TO GET FEEDBACK.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE HAVE TO MAIL POSTCARDS TO INDIVIDUAL RESTAURANTS.
YOU KNOW, I THINK THE FEEDBACK PIECE SHOULD GO RELATIVELY SIMPLY.
I, I KIND OF LIKE MY FIRST PROPOSAL THE BEST, WHICH IS THAT YOU GUYS DECIDE WITH THE CHAIR AND THE CO-CHAIR IF IT NEEDS TO COME BACK HERE.
YOU KNOW, LIKE IF THERE IS THAT MUCH HULLABALOO GOING ON AND WE NEED TO HAVE A PUBLIC MEETING AROUND IT, LET'S DO IT.
BUT FOR US TO SCRIPT THE WHOLE PROCESS FEELS TO ME LIKE YOU GUYS ARE PROFESSIONAL.
YOU KNOW, THAT WE SHOULD TRUST YOU A LITTLE BIT TO, TO CARRY THIS PART OF THE BALL AND TO BRING IT BACK, YOU KNOW, FOR ANOTHER VOTE IF IT'S SUBSTANTIALLY CHANGED OR IF WE'RE FINDING SUBSTANTIAL, UH, YOU KNOW, SIGNIFICANT OPPOSITION.
THAT'S WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE, RATHER THAN SCRIPTED ALL OUT, YOU KNOW, AND THAT, THAT I WOULD TRUST YOU GUYS TO WORK WITH THE CO AND THE CO-CHAIR TO FIGURE THAT OUT.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT, UM, STAFF DO OUTREACH.
THAT IT'S SIGNIFICANT THAT WE REACH OUT TO THE CHAMBER, THAT RESTAURANT GROUPS, UH, THAT WE GIVE OURSELVES TIME TO, TO MAKE A SUB SUBSTANTIVE, UM, ENGAGEMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY OF BUSINESSES THAT'S GONNA BE AFFECTED BY THIS.
UM, THAT YOU DETERMINE IN CONSULT WITH THE CHAIR AND THE CO OR WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S SUFFICIENT CHANGES TO THE ORDINANCE OR SUFFICIENT, UM, UH, CONTROVERSY, YOU KNOW, AROUND THE ORDINANCE THAT YOU WOULD THEN SCHEDULE TO BRING IT BACK IN FRONT OF THIS COMMISSION FOR ANOTHER, UH, DISCUSSION OF IT AND DISCUSSION OF THE ORDINANCE.
SO THERE WAS AN ORIGINAL MOTION AND SECOND FIRST.
SO I THINK YOU SHOULD TAKE THAT ONE UP.
AND IF THAT ONE FAILS, THEN CONSIDER THIS ALTERNATIVE MOTION.
SO THE, THE ORIGINAL, OR UNLESS THE MAKE AFTER SECOND WE'RE ALLOWED TO AMEND THE MOTIONS, I BELIEVE, BEFORE IT GOES TO VOTE.
AND SO I THINK THIS IS, THESE ARE THE AMENDMENTS TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH THE ORIGINAL MOTION MAKER AND SECONDER
IS THERE A TIMEFRAME ATTACHED TO THE OUTREACH OR? WE, I WOULD SAY WE WANT IT TO BE CONCLUDED BY, UM, THE END OF OCTOBER WITH ALL DUE ALACRITY.
'CAUSE THEN, BECAUSE YOU'D HAVE TO PUT TOGETHER STAFF REPORT.
I MEAN, THE IDEA WOULD BE TO GET, IF WE HAVE TO COME BACK HERE, IT WOULD BE IN NOVEMBER, SO IT'S NOT FALLING INTO NEXT YEAR, YOU KNOW, AND SO THAT GIVES US A WEEK OR TWO TO PREPARE THE STAFF REPORT AND GET IT OUT THE WEEK BEFORE THE MEETING, YOU KNOW.
SO I THINK THE END OF OCTOBER WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.
I, I, I'LL IT WAS ALREADY BEEN SECONDED.
OH, YOU DID? FOR THE AMENDMENT.
SO I THINK WE'RE READY TO VOTE.
UH, WILL THE CLERK CALL TO VOTE? ALRIGHT, SO BAKER, AYE.
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PETERS, YES.ALRIGHT, NOW ONTO ITEM FIVE, UH, THE AD HOC CONTINUATION AND FUTURE COMPOSITION OF SUBCOMMITTEES DISCUSSION.
UH, AS YOU, UH, RECALL FROM OUR LAST, UH, MEETING, WE DISCUSSED THE, UH, BOTH THE, UH, MAKEUP AND, UH, I'M SORRY, A LITTLE TIRED, UH, JUST, JUST THE, THE COMPOSITION OF OUR AD HOCS AND, AND WHAT THEIR PURPOSE WAS AND WHAT, WHAT WE WOULD WANNA DO MOVING FORWARD.
SINCE WE'VE RECOGNIZED THAT THEY'VE DONE A BODY OF WORK AND WE'VE, WE'VE KIND OF GONE AS FAR AS THEY COULD IN THEIR CURRENT FORM.
AND, UH, TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO DECIDE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THAT DISCUSSION FROM LAST MEETING, WHAT WE WANNA DO WITH THE SUBCOMMITTEES.
AND I'M GOING TO, UH, UH, ASK THE CHAIR.
UM, I'M, EXCUSE ME, UH, I'M GONNA ASK THE COMMISSION IF, IF ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS SAYING NONE.
UH, I'M GONNA OPEN THIS UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
UH, THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM.
IF YOU HAVEN'T DONE SO ALREADY, PLEASE FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD AND BRING IT TO THE CLERK.
SEEING NONE, BOY, CROWD TONIGHT ASKS, UH, SO I'LL BE, UH, ASKING THE CLERK, DID YOU RECEIVE ANY COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? NO, I DID NOT.
UH, AND YEAH, NO IN PERSONS PUBLIC SPEAKERS.
SO NOW WE CAN, UH, GO TO THE COMMISSION FOR DISCUSSION ON THIS TOPIC.
UH, WOULD LIKE TO START OFF BY SAYING THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HARD WORK FOR THOSE WHO, ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO AREN'T HERE, UH, ON, ON THE AD HOC COMMITTEES.
I, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE COULD, WE REALLY DID TRY AND ADVANCE THINGS FORWARD FOR THE BLUEPRINT.
AND I REALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE EVIDENCE TONIGHT OF THE, THE HARD WORK OF THE, UH, THE FOOD WEAR ORDINANCE, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS A, A PRODUCT OF THAT AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE, UH, PROCESS AND, AND WANNA THANK, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT HERE.
BUT THE FOLKS IN THE, YOU KNOW, IN THE AUDIENCE WHO, UH, FROM THE PUBLIC WHO SAT IN ON OUR, OUR AD HOC COMMITTEES, MY PERSONAL FEELING IS THAT THIS POINT, I DON'T SEE THE AD HOCS AS CURRENTLY, UH, COMPOSED BEING OF, UH, UH, SUBSTANTIAL VALUE TO, UH, ENACTING THE, THE BLUEPRINT.
AND I WOULD BE MORE THAN OPEN TO, UH, EITHER WHOLESALE CHANGES OR DISSOLVING THE AD HOCS COMPLETELY.
BUT I AM OPEN-MINDED TO OTHER CONCEPTS.
UH, I JUST REALLY WANNA HELP THE CITY GET THE BLUEPRINT ENACTED THE BEST WAY WE CAN.
AND MY OWN PERSONAL FEELING, UH, AS YOU, AS YOU ALL KNOW.
SO I WANNA REMOVE BARRIERS THAT THE CITY, UH, CAN, CAN, UH, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE, THESE ARE THINGS THAT THE CITY WE DO OURSELVES THAT MAYBE WE DON'T HAVE TO DO.
AND THEY, THAT MAYBE THAT CAN BE A WAY THAT THE CITY CAN ADVANCE, UH, THE BLUEPRINT.
BUT I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO THE COMMISSION AND, UH, HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS ON, ON THE AD HOCS THEIR FUTURE, WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GONNA HAVE THEM PLEASE.
'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH EVERYBODY HERE TO ACTUALLY ADVANCE THIS MUCH FURTHER AT THIS POINT.
BUT, UM, I KNOW OUR AD HOC, UH, THE, THE THREE OF US, WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON A DOCUMENT, A REPORT OUT SAYING THIS IS, THESE ARE, UH, THE TOP THINGS THAT WE CAN SEE THAT COULD BE DONE THIS YEAR RIGHT AWAY.
SO KIND OF RECOMMENDING, HEY, THESE ARE THE, THE ACTIONS WE WANNA SEE START MOVING FORWARD AND, AND HIGHER PRIORITY, UH, FROM, UH, THAT COUNCIL AND STAFF START WORKING ON.
UM, BUT WE'RE NOT READY TO PRESENT THAT REPORT.
UH, WE STILL HAVE TO, WE STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH A COUPLE ROUNDS, UM, UH, 'CAUSE WE'RE WORKING ON A GOOGLE DOC ON, ON THE WEB.
SO, UM, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE FROM COUNCIL PERSPECTIVE IS EACH AD HOC HAVE A RE REPORT OUT SAYING, OKAY, THIS IS, THIS IS OUR CONCLUSIONS, THIS IS OUR SUMMARIES, THIS IS OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND ONE PAGE, TWO PAGES SAYING WHATEVER, WHAT, KEEPING IT SHORT.
I LIKE KISS, KEEP IT SHORT AND SIMPLE.
BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE A DOCUMENT FROM EACH OF THE AD HOCS PUT TOGETHER IN A SINGLE DOCUMENT THAT THIS COMMISSION SAYS, HEY COUNSEL, THESE ARE OUR, OUR CURRENT HIGHLIGHTED RECOMMENDATIONS.
NOW WE THINK THIS IS WHAT YOU SHOULD DO.
UM, SO THAT IS THE REPORT OUT THAT I THINK THIS IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS WHOLE PROCESS.
SO WE NEED TO SEE THAT AS AN END RESULT.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF IT TAKES MORE TIME TO GET
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AT THAT DOCUMENT TOGETHER, THEN WE TABLE THIS AND LET'S MOVE IT FORWARD, SAY AD HOCS, GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER, HAVE A DOCUMENT READY TO GO NEXT TIME TO BE PRESENTED AND APPROVED AT THIS, TO BE SENT TO COUNCIL.SO IT'S READY TO GO IN THIS NEXT MONTH.
COUNCIL MEMBER ROU, UH, ANY THOUGHTS? IS THERE, DO WE NEED TO TAKE A FORMAL ACTION TO DISSOLVE THE AD HOCS OR IS IT IN BECAUSE THEY ARE INFORMAL, THEY CAN BE SORT OF INFORMALLY DISSOLVED.
I BELIEVE WE DID, THE COMMISSION DID AN ACTION TO FORM THEM.
SO IT SHOULD ALSO TAKE AN ACTION TO DISSOLVE THEM.
AND ARE WE, YOU ALLUDED TO DOING THAT TONIGHT, IS THAT, THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION, BUT I AM OPEN TO OTHER I IDEAS INCLUDING A RECORD OUT.
UM, PERSONALLY, I LIKE THE IDEA OF A REPORT OUT.
I MEAN, WE, WE'VE STARTED ONE AND WE'RE JUST NOT QUITE DONE.
BUT, AND IT DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T REALLY TAKE THE FORM OF AN ORDINANCE, YOU KNOW, BUT I THINK THERE ARE A SERIES OF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT I, WE THINK ARE RELEVANT FOR STAFF AND FOR COUNCIL.
SO I THINK WE COULD, UM, IF YOU CONCUR, BEN, I THINK WE COULD, UM, COME UP WITH A SUMMARY SERIES OF RECOMMENDATIONS AND THERE'S, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY SOME THINGS THAT NEED TO BE FOLLOWED UP ON FURTHER.
UM, BUT I'D LIKE TO SUMMARIZE WHERE WE GOT TO YEAH.
AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS WE HAVE.
SO I, I COULD SEE COMING BACK NEXT MONTH WITH, UM, A, A COMPLETED FORM, UH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER.
UH, I, SORRY, I I AGREE A HUNDRED PERCENT.
I THINK THAT THE CURRENT AD HOC SHOULD WRAP UP, REPORT OUT WHAT THEY'VE DONE, REPORT OUT ANY RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THEN TO THE, AT THE NEXT MEETING.
AND THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND DECIDE IF WE WANT TO FORM NEW AD HOCS AND WHAT THOSE WOULD BE.
AND YOU KNOW, THAT SORT OF THING.
IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S CONSENSUS OUTSIDE OF ME AGAIN.
UH, WE CAN, UH, I THINK THE, THE MOTION I WOULD WANNA SEE, NOT SAYING THIS IS THE MOTION, BUT SOMETHING LIKE, UH, EACH AD HOC SHOULD REPORT OUT.
NOW, OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE NOT ALL HERE TONIGHT.
UH, DO WE THINK THAT THAT'S A MONTH IS ENOUGH TIME? OKAY.
I THINK, UH, CAN WRANGLE THE CATS ON, UH, I KNOW ANN'S BEEN REALLY DRIVING OUR SHIFT AND VERY APPRECIATED, BUT WE'VE GOT, WE'VE ALL GOT A, A SUBSTANTIAL, SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT TO SAY, JUST SHRINK IT DOWN BULLET POINTS.
RIGHT? UH, AND THEN, UH, MAYBE PRESENT IT AT THE, AT THE MEETING NEXT MONTH.
THE ONE RECOMMENDATION I WOULD HAVE IS THAT, UH, THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR, UM, WORK WITH ALL THE THREE AD HOCS MM-HMM
UM, TO GET SOME UNIFORMITY TO THE FORMAT OF THE REPORT THAT'S, UH, SO THAT, UM, IT, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S FROM ONE BODY AND NOT FROM THREE.
SO LET, LET'S, IF, IF WE, IF THE, IF THE LEADERSHIP OF THIS COMMISSION COULD TAKE THAT UNDER ADVISEMENT, WORK WITH THE THREE COUNT THE THREE GROUPS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FINAL DOCUMENT, WHICH IS PRESENTED, BROUGHT BACK HERE TO THIS COMMITTEE NEXT MONTH, NEXT MEETING, THAT, THAT THEY'RE GONNA LOOK A LITTLE BIT SIMILAR.
UH, A, A GOOD RECOGNITION FORMAT OF ORGANIZATION.
A WEIGHT WEIGHTY RESPONSIBILITY FOR ME.
UH, I WILL, UH, WORK WITH, UH, UH, COUNT, UH, EXCUSE ME, UH, CHAIR LEY TO, UH, WORK, WORK WITH THE DIFFERENT AD HOCS.
UH, WE WILL, WE'LL WRANGLE THESE CATS AND, AND GET, GET ALL THE INFORMATION TOGETHER, PUT INTO ONE FORMAT SO THAT WE CAN PRESENT IT TO STAFF, UH, AT THE NEXT MEETING.
AND, AND THEN MOVE FORWARD AT THAT SAME MEETING, DECIDE THE, UH, THE FUTURE FOR THE AD HOC, UM, YEAH.
UH, THE AD HOCS CAN MOVE FORWARD.
SO I GUESS THE, UH, WOULD, WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SUMMARIZE THAT AND MAKE A MOTION? OR YOU WANT YOU JUST DID.
WE DON'T, WE DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO VOTE ON THIS.
IT'S NOT, WE'RE NOT, WE DON'T VOTE.
SO I'LL JUST, I WILL SAY AT THE NEXT MEETING, I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE THE CREATION OF AN AD HOC, UH, EXCLUSIVELY FOCUSED ON ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, NOT VEHICLE ELECTRIFICATION OR ANY FANCY CONCEPTS LIKE THAT, JUST ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
SO, UM, THAT IS WHAT I'M PROPOSING TO DISCUSS AT THE NEXT MEETING.
WELL, UH, WE WILL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY AT THE NEXT MEETING.
JUST, AND THEN, UH, UH, WHEN YOU SAY ELECTRIC VEHICLES, HOPEFULLY ARE, ARE YOU GONNA BE INCLUDING ALL TYPES OF ELECTRIC VEHICLES? UM, THAT CAN BE PRETTY INCLUSIVE.
I, I WOULD ALSO, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT TOO MYSELF, INCLUDING SETTING UP SOME REGULATIONS AROUND, UM, E-BIKES AND THE LIKE, WHICH IS NEEDED BEING OBSERVED BY OUR POLICE AND OUR, UH, HOSPITAL FOLKS ARE TELLING US WE NEED TO START WORKING ON THAT.
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OKAY.SO I THINK, UH, WE CONCLUDE THAT ITEM.
SO WE WILL, NEXT MONTH WE'LL HAVE A REPORT OUT OF ALL THE AD HOCS AND PRESENT STAFF, AND THEN DECIDE WHAT WE'RE DO IN THE AD HOCS.
AND I BELIEVE THAT'S OUR LAST ITEM FOR CONSIDERATION TONIGHT.
[COMMISSION COMMENT]
UH, COMMISSION COMMENT.WE WOULD LIKE TO START US OFF.
JUST, UM, INFORMATION ON, UM, I JUST RECEIVED, UH, SOMEONE SENT ME A DOCUMENT THAT SOMEONE'S GIVING A REPORT OUT, BUT JUST AS A SUMMARY OF, UH, HOW WIND AND SOLAR ARE DOING THESE DAYS, UH, ACROSS THE US AND, AND, UH, AND THIS PAST YEAR, UH, WIND AND SOLAR NOW COMPRISE 95.7% OF ALL NEW US CAPACITY FOR, FOR NEW, FOR GENERATING ENERGY, UH, COMING IN.
UM, AND THERE'S, UH, UH, LARGE NUMBERS HERE.
AND SO THAT WIND, WATER, AND SOLAR NOW COMPRISE 33% OF ALL, UM, US CAPACITY.
UM, AND THEN ANOTHER, UH, UH, SIMILAR, ANOTHER REPORT CAME IN THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD DAYS OR TIMES WHEN WE WERE, UH, OPERATING ON A HUNDRED PERCENT RENEWABLE, UH, ENERGIES HERE IN CALIFORNIA.
SO, SO WE ARE MAKING PROGRESS IN THAT AREA.
AND, UM, I ATTENDED A, UH, REGIONAL WATER QUALITY CONTROL BOARD, UH, FOR, UM, THAT'S FOR THE ENTIRE BAY AREA.
AND, BUT, BUT UNDER THE TOPIC WAS THE NORTH BAY GRAZING AND, UM, T MDLS WITH E COLI AND A CONTAMINATION OF THE ENVIRONMENT.
UM, AND NOW THE PENAL WATERSHED IS GOING TO BE INCLUDED IN A LARGER REGION, WHEREAS BEFORE IT WAS JUST, UH, A COUPLE SMALLER REGIONS THAT WERE SEPARATED AND THERE'S GONNA BE A MUCH LARGER UNIFIED REGION OF THE ENTIRE NORTH BAY, AND IT'S GONNA HAVE A SINGLE, UH, GRAZING EXPECTATIONS, UM, UH, T MDLS ON, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES WITH RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CHANGES AND THINGS.
SO JUST FOR YOUR AWARENESS, UH, MOSTLY IT'S GONNA BE, HAVE THE COUNTY'S GONNA HAVE TO DEAL WITH MOST OF THIS.
'CAUSE A LOT OF IT'S DEALING WITH GRAZING, BUT EVEN WHEN WE'RE USING OUR SHEEP AND OTHER THINGS, UM, UH, THERE HAS TO BE, UM, THERE, THERE WILL BE MORE MONITORING GOING ON AND MORE HIGHER EXPECTATIONS TO REDUCE, UM, ECO E COLI, ESPECIALLY CONTAMINATION OF OUR WATERSHEDS, UH, AND OUR WATERS.
SO THAT, THAT'S, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE FOR REGULATORY ON THAT ONE.
AND LET'S SEE, UM, OH, AND ANOTHER ONE IS I, UH, ANOTHER WEBINAR THAT I ATTENDED IS FROM THE ARBOR DAY FOUNDATION.
AND IT WAS AN INTERNATIONALLY BASED WEBINAR.
FOLKS FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD ATTENDED OVER A HUNDRED DIFFERENT COUNTRIES WERE REPRESENTED.
AND THERE IS A, UM, UM, UH, HIGH END RESEARCHER THAT, THAT'S ACTUALLY DOING LOTS OF WORK IN PUBLICATIONS.
BUT THE NEW, THERE'S A NEW THING CALLED THREE THIRTY, THREE HUNDRED AND THREE, THIRTY THREE HUNDRED.
AND FOR THE US IT'S THREE THIRTY, THREE HUNDRED AND THIRTY, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT METRIC THAT WAS BASED ON THE METRIC FROM EUROPE.
UM, SO 3 30, 3 30 IS THAT 330 YARDS IS THE DISTANCE FROM ANY DOOR TO A GREEN SPACE OR PARK THAT THERE'S 30% TREE CANOPY IN CITIES TO REALLY GO AFTER A HEAT ISLAND EFFECT AND FOR, UM, AIR QUALITY CONTROL AND, UH, REDUCTION.
AND THE THIRD THING IS JUST FOR A PSYCHOLOGICAL AND, UM, AND OTHER PURPOSES THAT WITHIN THE VISIBILITY OF EVERY SINGLE HOME FOR EQUITY PURPOSES, THAT THERE IS THREE TREES VISIBLE FROM EVERY SINGLE HOUSE AND BUSINESS AND SCHOOL IMMEDIATELY WITHIN THAT VICINITY.
SO THAT, THAT'S THE, UH, PROPOSAL THAT THE ARBOR DAY FOUNDATION IS PUTTING FORWARD, UH, AS A INTERNATIONAL STANDARD FOR ALL CITIES.
UM, AND THERE'S ALREADY CITIES THAT ARE WORKING TOWARD THAT GOAL HERE AROUND THE WORLD.
UM, SO ANYWAYS, I JUST REPORT IN THAT THAT'S, THAT'S NEW STANDARDS BEING PROPOSED THERE THAT ARE EVEN STRONGER THAN WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE SEEKING HERE NOW.
AND A LOT OF CITIES ARE ALREADY AHEAD OF US.
I THINK, UH, WE ARE ADJOURNED STEP, OH, I'M SO SORRY.
YOU KNOW, MY FIRST, THIS IS WHY I'M NOT READY TO BE CHAIR
I STILL GOT MY TRAINING WHEELS ON.
IT'S RIGHT HERE IN FRONT OF ME.
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SAYS STAFF COMMENT.I DIDN'T EVEN, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
I SHARE ANOTHER BODY, UH, ZERO WASTE SONOMA.
AND IT IS DAUNTING TO BE IN THAT SEAT.
UH, LIKE EVERY TIME I FORGET TO GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT, I'M REMINDED OF IT.
AND IT'S, YEAH, THE SPOTLIGHT IS, IS IS DAUNTING AT TIMES, BUT YOU'VE, YOU'VE WEATHERED IT, UH, VERY WELL FOR YOUR FIRST MEETING.
UM, FOR STAFF COMMENT, UM, WE'RE JUST, I THINK ALL REELING FROM THE CITY'S, UH,
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FIRST TIME RUNNING THE ENTIRE PETALUMA AFFAIR.UM, THAT WAS AN AMAZING EXPERIENCE.
SO MANY OF US, UH, WORKED SO MANY HOURS AT THAT FAIR, UM, TRYING TO MAKE IT, UH, UH, AN AMAZING, UH, EXPERIENCE FOR OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
AND IT WAS, WE TRIED SOME NEW THINGS.
UM, THE PURPLE CUPS CAME BACK.
UM, MORGAN AND I WORKED REALLY HARD TO KEEP THOSE BINS CLEAN.
UM, I WANNA SAY IT WAS SOMEWHERE AROUND A THOUSAND CUPS THAT WE DID.
WE HAVEN'T DONE A, A, AN OFFICIAL COUNT OF IT YET.
UM, BUT, UH, THAT'S A LOT OF WASTE THAT DIDN'T GO INTO THE LANDFILL AS A RESULT OF THOSE EFFORTS.
WE HAD WATER REFILL STATIONS, SOME, UM, EQUIPMENT INVESTMENT THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO BE USING IN THE FUTURE, UM, WITH BETTER SIGNAGE AND SOME MORE IDEAS OF HOW WE CAN CHILL THAT WATER.
UM, 'CAUSE SOME, SOME PEOPLE WEREN'T EXCITED ABOUT DUMPING OUT THEIR WATER, COMING ONTO THE SITE AND FILLING UP WITH, WITH TAP WATER.
SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE SOME IDEAS OF, IT WAS AN AMAZING EXPERIENCE.
WE HAVE SOME IDEAS OF HOW WE MAKE IT EVEN MORE AMAZING IN THE FUTURE.
UM, ARE THE CITY'S ELECTRIC TRACTOR MADE ITS DEBUT, UM, AT THE FAIR? UM, WE USED IT TO, UM, HAUL TRASH AROUND AND RECYCLING AND COMPOST, UM, RECYCLING AND COMPOST OF WHICH WE'RE NOT, UH, DONE IN THE PAST.
UH, THERE WAS SOME DONE IN, IN PASSING.
UM, BUT WE, WE PUT AN EMPHASIS ON THAT AND WE LEARNED SOME LESSONS AND WE'LL DO BETTER NEXT YEAR ON THAT AS WELL.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE
WE, I PERSONALLY HAULED, UH, HAD TO BE SEVERAL DOZEN, UM, CRATES OF, OF LEMONS.
AND THOSE WENT INTO THE COMPOST INSTEAD OF THE LANDFILL THIS YEAR.
UM, IN THE PAST IT HAD JUST BEEN MANURE THAT HAD BEEN COMPOSTED ON THAT SITE, AND WE GOT SOME GOOD FOOD WASTE COMPOSTED THIS YEAR.
UM, SO LOTS OF GREAT THINGS HAPPENING AT THE FAIR.
UM, SAW SOME OF YOU OUT THERE, UM, WITH, WITH FAMILY MEMBERS.
UM, SO IT WAS GREAT TO SEE MANY COMMUNITY MEMBERS SHOW UP FOR THAT.
UM, I THINK WE EXCEEDED OUR EXPECTATIONS ON, UM, ATTENDANCE FOR THAT.
UM, IT SEEMED A LITTLE LIGHT TO ME ON THE EARLY DAYS, BUT IT REALLY DID PICK UP ON THE WEEKEND WHEN PEOPLE HAD MORE TIME OFF AND CAME OUT THERE.
AND FORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, NO, NO HEAT, UM, INJURIES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO THAT WAS REALLY IMPRESSIVE.
THE WIND WAS PRETTY BAD FOR, UH, A DAY OR MAYBE TWO OUT THERE.
UM, WE LEARNED WE NEEDED A LOT MORE SANDBAGS TO, TO HOLD THINGS DOWN THERE.
UM, BUT AGAIN, LOTS OF LESSONS LEARNED.
UM, AND HAPPY TO LOOK FORWARD TO THE FUTURE ON HOW WE CAN DO EVEN BETTER NEXT YEAR.
AND THE BIKE, THE BIKE RACKS WERE FULL.
THE BIKE RACKS GOT A LOT THAT WAS USED.
BIKE RACKS WERE FULL RIGHT OUT THERE, FRONT AND CENTER IN, IN FRONT.
SO A LOT OF VISIBILITY ON THAT.
SO THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY THAT RODE THEIR BIKE TO THE FAIR.
UM, A LOT OF, TO BE PROUD OF, A LOT OF, TO BE HAPPY WITH, UM, AT THAT FAIR.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY MY HAT'S OFF TO, YOU KNOW, MORGAN FOR, FOR HELPING ON THE WASTE.
LIKE WE, WE REALLY MOVED A LOT OF WASTE.
OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS, LIKE WE BUILDING TOGETHER.
UM, PETALUMA HAD TEAMS DEVOTED TO THAT.
UM, IT, IT, IT TOOK A LOT OF EFFORT, A LOT OF PEOPLE PITCHING IN AND, AND IT WAS JUST A GREAT EXPERIENCE FROM, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, UM, AND PROUD TO BE A PART OF THAT.
I'D ALSO LIKE JUST TO ADD, ADD TO THAT.
UM, 'CAUSE I WAS THERE BOTH SATURDAY NIGHT AND FRIDAY NIGHT.
I WAS, I WAS THE GREETER, UM, AND ENDED UP, UNFORTUNATELY BY MYSELF MOST OF THE TIME THERE,
BUT, UM, I JUST WANNA REPORT BACK ABOUT THE ATTENDANCE.
UM, THEY ACTUALLY RAN OUT OF THE COLORED WRISTBANDS THAT WERE EXPECTED.
THEY BOUGHT A WHOLE BUNCH OF EXTRA THAT ABOVE AND BEYOND.
THEY ACTUALLY RAN OUT AND HAD TO USE PRIOR DAY'S.
WRISTBANDS, IT WAS SO POPULAR.
UM, THE POPULATION THAT WAS SHOWING UP WAS PHENOMENAL.
UM, IT WAS BASED ON, ESPECIALLY THE SUNDAY.
IT WAS BASED ON LATINX, UM, EVENTS AND MUSIC.
AND THEN THEY SHOWED UP, UH, FROM ALL OVER THE PLACE.
UM, AND THEN WHAT I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED WITH MOSTLY IS THE STAFF.
OUR STAFF NOW, HE STEPPED IN AND WAS WORKING THE TRASH.
THEY WERE WORKING THE BOOTHS, THEY WERE WORKING THE CROWDS, THEY WERE WORKING.
EVERY, THE POLICE WERE THERE, THE FIRE WAS THERE.
UM, THE HUNT TIRE CITY STAFF SHOWED UP.
LAWYERS WERE DOING MANUAL LABORERS OUT THERE.
UH, ALL THE LAWYERS WERE OUT THERE WORKING HARD, UH, UH, DOING ALL SORTS OF LITTLE THINGS OUT THERE, JUST MAKING SURE WE HAD THINGS WERE HAPPENING, INCLUDING A BUNCH OF, OF VOLUNTEERS.
UM, BUT SEEING THE OPERATION, WHEN I WENT INTO THE STAFF ROOM THAT WAS ACTUALLY OPERATING IT, IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS RUN, BEING RUN LIKE AN EMERGENCY EVACUATION CENTER.
WE HAD LIKE SIX TO SEVEN PEOPLE THAT WERE COORDINATING, HAD THINGS ON THE WALLS.
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THEY WERE REALLY WORKING LIKE A TEAM.SO I JUST WANNA COMPLIMENT THE CITY ON THE TEAMWORK THAT YOU GUYS DID ON THAT.
MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S AWARE OF HOW MUCH EFFORT THE CITY PUT OUT ON THAT THING.
I MEAN, EVERYONE WAS REALLY HAPPY WALKING OUT THAT I WAS READING FOLKS ON THE WAY OUT.
EVERYONE WAS SMILING AND VERY HAPPY WITH, WITH WHAT WE HAD DONE.
SO THAT WAS, I JUST WANTED TO JUST GIVE YOU A LITTLE, LITTLE OOMPH THERE.
UM, MOVING ON TO LESS, UH, JOYFUL TINGS, UM, FEDERAL LEGISLATION HAS REALLY UPENDED THE CLEAN ENERGY SEC SECTOR.
UM, SO A LOT OF THE FEDERAL REBATES ARE GOING AWAY.
SO THOSE THAT ARE LISTENING TO THIS MEETING ONLINE, IF YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT SOLAR, YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT AN EV AND YOU QUALIFY FOR THOSE, THOSE, UM, TAX CREDITS, DO IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
UM, IF, IF YOU'RE ON THE FENCE ON WHETHER YOU'RE GONNA DO THAT, YOU KNOW, HEAT PUMP OR HEAT, UH, HEAT PUMP, WATER HEATER UPGRADE OR BUY THAT EV NOW'S THE TIME TO DO IT BECAUSE IT'LL BE MORE EXPENSIVE.
UM, COME, YOU KNOW, LATER THIS YEAR OR AFTER.
UH, SO THERE'S DIFFERENT THINGS DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU'RE DOING, VERSUS EV'S EXPIRE IN SEPTEMBER AND SOME OF THE SOLAR AND WIND AND OTHER RENEWABLES, UH, HAVE DIFFERENT DEADLINES ON THEM.
BUT THE, THE BOTTOM LINE IS DO IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE IF YOU'RE ON THE FENCE ON THAT, UNFORTUNATELY.
SO WE MIGHT SEE A SURGE OF THINGS HAPPENING NOW AND THEN, UM, IT'S REALLY UNKNOWN WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN BEYOND THAT, BUT, UM, JUST REALLY WANNA SUPPORT OUR BUSINESSES THAT ARE IN THAT FIELD, UM, GETTING THAT, THAT BUSINESS TO THEM AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
SO, UM, THAT CONCLUDES MY STAFF COMMENTS.
DEB, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING? I DO, BUT I DO WANT YOU TWO TO, TO, HOW MANY MILES DID YOU WALK?
UM, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE MILEAGE, BUT I GOT 98,000 STEPS
UH, YEAH, MY, MY FEET WERE HURTING FROM PERSPECTIVE THAT A THOUSAND STEPS PER DAY IS DOING PRETTY GOOD.
AND IN FOUR DAYS YOU DID 9,000.
SO YEAH, AS DID MOST OF THE STAFF
UM, SO MINE ARE, UM, THE DELEGATION, UH, WENT TO DENVER FOR THE ALL AMERICA CITY TWO WEEKS AGO.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY WE DID NOT WIN, BUT WE WERE NOTED AS I KNOW, UH, WE WERE NOTED AS BEING, UH, THE MAIN MC GUY'S FAVORITE, UH, HE SAID MY PERSONAL FAVORITE WHEN HE ANNOUNCED AFTER THEY ANNOUNCED THE 10 THAT WON.
UH, SO THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A DISAPPOINTMENT, BUT WE GOT GREAT FEEDBACK FROM A LOT OF THE EXPERTS THAT WERE THERE TO, UH, EITHER FACILITATE WORKSHOPS OR, UH, UH, PRESENT, UH, AWARDS ABOUT HOW TRULY SYSTEMS CHANGE OUR PRESENTATION AND WORK.
UH, WAS THE SENSE WAS, YOU KNOW, THE EVENT WAS REALLY HIGHLIGHTING PROGRAMS AND WE WERE HIGHLIGHTING THE SYSTEMS CHANGE FROM THE INCEPTION OF, UH, THE CLIMATE EMERGENCY ALL THE WAY TO WHERE WE ARE NOW.
AND SO, BUT PEOPLE WERE PULLING US ASIDE ON A REGULAR BASIS TO ASK QUESTIONS, UM, CLARIFY, GET BUSINESS CARDS TO, TO DO FOLLOW UP.
AND SO IT WAS A, IT WAS AN A, A VERY, THE WORD I KEEP SAYING IT WAS A CACO EVENT.
IT WAS LIKE BEING AT LEADERSHIP CAMP WITH 400 ADULTS, ACTING LIKE 18 YEAR OLDS WITH, UH, REALLY LOUD, UM, SCREAMING VOICES AND, UH, WHATNOT.
SO IT WAS A LOT, UH, BUT IT WAS GREAT.
AND, UM, AND, UH, WE, WE REALLY DID DO A GREAT JOB OF HIGHLIGHTING THE WORK THAT IS REPRESENTED HERE.
OUR TWO, UH, YOUTH COMMISSIONERS OBVIOUSLY INCLUDED.
UH, AND SO THAT WAS A REALLY, UM, UH, FULFILLING EVENT AND INSPIRING TO SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING AROUND THE UNITED STATES AS IT RELATES TO CLIMATE ACTION, SUSTAINABILITY, AND INCLUSIVE ENGAGEMENT.
UH, WE WISHED THAT THAT WAS IN THE NEWS MORE.
UM, THAT WAS THE TAKEAWAY THAT WE ALL WALKED AWAY WITH, IS WHAT IS REALLY HAPPENING IS AMAZING.
UH, WE JUST DON'T HEAR ENOUGH ABOUT IT.
UM, UH, TODAY I JUST RETURNED FROM THE 16TH ANNUAL CALIFORNIA CLIMATE AND ENERGY COLLABORATIVE FORUM, UH, CONFERENCE FOR TWO DAYS AND TALK ABOUT INSPIRING AND BUCKET FILLING.
UH, THAT IS AN ALLIANCE SUPPORTING LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO SAVE ENERGY, REDUCE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS, AND ACCELERATE CLIMATE ACTION BY BUILDING KNOWLEDGE AND NETWORKS AMONGST LOCAL, UH, GOVERNMENT PRACTITIONERS.
SO WE HAD THE EX, UH, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE CPUC THERE, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE CALIFORNIA STRATEGIC GROWTH
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COUNCIL.UH, THERE WERE MULTIPLE, UH, ENERGY COMMISSIONERS, UH, CALIFORNIA ENERGY COMMISSIONERS THERE.
UM, AND, UH, I CAME HOME WITH SO MUCH GOOD INFORMATION.
UH, ONE OF MY FAVORITES WAS, UM, TALKING ABOUT A CLIMATE ACTION FUNDING STRATEGY AND HOW TO DO ONE AND HOW TO BUILD THE CRITERIA FOR THAT AND THE PRI PRIORITIZATION.
UH, THE GOOD NEWS IS, IS THAT WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT LED IT IS OUR OWN, UH, GRANTS ANALYST FOR THE COUNTY OF SONOMA.
UH, AND WE ARE ACTUALLY ALREADY STARTING THAT PROCESS ON THE COUNTY LEVEL AS IT RELATES TO OUR NEW S-C-T-C-A, UH, FORMALLY ON THE RCPA SIDE.
BUT, UH, WE ARE ALREADY STARTING THAT PROCESS.
THAT'LL BE HAPPENING IN LATE AUGUST, WHERE WE'RE GONNA DO A PRIORITIZATION OF PROJECTS SO THAT WE ARE WORKING COLLABORATIVELY.
UM, THAT WAS THE MAIN MESSAGE OF THE ENTIRE EVENT.
IN LIGHT OF WHAT IS SHIFTING FEDERALLY, IS EVERYONE IS IN AGREEMENT THAT, UH, THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO REALLY COLLABORATE LOCALLY.
UH, WE ALREADY ALL KNEW IT ALL ALONG, THAT WE ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT ARE GONNA BE THERE WHEN, UH, THINGS HAPPEN.
AND IT IS, IT IS TRULY OUR TIME TO REALLY BE CREATIVE, UH, WORK COLLABORATIVELY, REALLY ENGAGE OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS, UH, AND OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT PARTNERS UP AND DOWN FOR US.
THE ONE-ON-ONE FREEWAY MADE A LOT OF GREAT CONNECTIONS WITH MARIN AS WELL.
UH, AND, UH, SO YEAH, SO THAT WAS REALLY, UM, A VERY WELL WORTH IT, UH, TWO DAYS.
UM, THE LAST THING I'LL HIGHLIGHT, UM, FOR ALL OF YOU, IN CASE YOU, UH, WANNA TUNE IN ON MONDAY, JULY 21ST, UH, THERE'S A, UH, MTC PRIORITY CONSERVATION AREA GOING THROUGH ON CONSENT THAT HAS OUR, UH, SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL PROJECT, UH, THAT IS THE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE.
UH, THIS IS JUST TO GET IT NOMINATED AS A PRIORITY CONSERVATION AREA, WHICH THEN PUTS THE, UH, AND THERE'S ANOTHER PRIORITY CONSERVATION AREA ON THERE.
BUT THIS ONE SPECIFICALLY, UH, FOR YOU ALL, UH, WILL ALLOW US TO APPLY FOR A SEPARATE SET OF MONEY FROM THE METROPOLITAN TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION, UH, IF IT GETS, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S, UH, EXCITING IF YOU GUYS HAPPEN TO WANNA COME TO THE MEETING AND, UH, UH, OR SEND IN, IT'LL BE THE, WHEN THE AGENDA IS POSTED, YOU CAN READ ALL ABOUT IT, UH, WOULD BE GREAT.
SO THAT'S ON MONDAY, UH, JULY 21ST.
AND, UH, I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR NOW, JUST TO BE CLEAR.
ARE WE HELPFUL TO PROVIDE WRITTEN, CO WRITTEN OR ORAL COMMENTS ON THAT? UH, IT'S, IT'S A CONSENT ITEM, SO OH, OKAY.
MORE OF AN INFORMATIONAL AT THIS POINT, BUT COMMENTS ARE ALWAYS HELPFUL,
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, UH, ALL THOSE GREAT STAFF COMMENTS.
AND I WILL, UH, OH, YOU KNOW WHAT? I TOOK MY GLASSES OFF AND, UH, THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 7 56.