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ARE YOU READY TO BEGIN? UH, YES, I AM.
I'LL START WITH THE GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE 11TH MEETING OF THE PUBLIC RECORDING IN PROGRESS.
GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO THE 11TH MEETING OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR WEDNESDAY, JULY 23RD, 2025.
IF YOU WISH TO PROVIDE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, PLEASE FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD IN THE BACK OF THE CHAMBER AND BRING IT TO THE COMMITTEE CLERK.
UH, AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO ASK THE CLERK TO TAKE ROLE VERDE IS ABSENT.
AND CHIEF, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I'D LIKE TO LEAD THE COMMITTEE IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
UH, AT THIS TIME WE'D LIKE TO MOVE ON TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON ITEMS OF PUBLIC INTEREST THAT ARE WITHIN THE COMMITTEE'S SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION, AND THAT ARE NOT LISTED ON THE CURRENT AGENDA.
PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED UP TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON.
DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF PERSONS WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE, TIME WILL BE ALLOCATED IN EQUAL SHARES TOTALING NO MORE THAN 15 MINUTES.
CLERK, HAVE WE RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
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AT THIS POINT I'D LIKE TO MOVE ON TO THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR THE MEETING OF JUNE 25TH, 2025.UM, I'D LIKE TO ASK IF THERE ARE ANY CHANGES OR CORRECTIONS.
IF NONE, WE'D LIKE TO STATE THAT THE MINUTES ARE DEEMED APPROVED AS PRESENTED.
ARE THERE ANY CHANGES OR CORRECTIONS? UH, THEN I MOVE THAT WE, UH, MINUTES ARE DEEMED APPROVED AS PRESENTED.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND GO DO IT.
ARE WE ALL SAYING ARE WE APPROVING, ARE WE VOTING? UH, DO WE STILL NEED TO VOTE OR ARE WE ABLE TO JUST
AND SO I THINK WE'LL JUST ASK FOR ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.
ANY OPPOSED MINUTES ARE APPROVED.
UH, AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE
[PRESENTATIONS]
THE TOPIC AND INVITE TECHNICAL SERVICE MANAGER TINA THOMPSON AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT LIAISON, KELSEY MCCARTHY TO SPEAK.MY NAME IS TINA THOMPSON, THE TECHNICAL SERVICE MANAGER FOR THE PETALUMA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND JOINED WITH ME TODAY IS KELSEY MCCARTHY.
WE, I, IN MY ROLE, I OVERSEE SEVERAL UNITS THAT INCLUDE THE COMMUNICATION CENTER, THE RECORDS UNIT, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, OUR PATROL FLEET, AND THE DEPARTMENT FACILITY.
AS KELSEY'S MANAGER, SHE'S RESPONSIBLE FOR OVERSEEING OUR SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS, PUBLIC FACING DOCUMENTS, COMMUNITY OUTREACH, EVENTS OF VOLUNTEERS AND INTERNS.
SINCE OUR ROLES BOTH INVOLVE MANAGING COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE WILL BE PRESENTING ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND PRESS RELEASES TONIGHT, SHARING BEST PRACTICES, STRATEGIES, AND TOOLS WE USE TO EFFECTIVELY COMMUNICATE WITH THE PUBLIC.
AT THE END OF OUR PRESENTATION, WE'LL SAVE TIME FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
I'M SORRY, WHAT? OH, IS THAT BETTER? YEAH.
SO WE WILL GO AHEAD AND PROCEED WITH OUR PRESENTATION.
I'LL HOLD IT UP SO YOU CAN HEAR ME.
SO TONIGHT WE ARE GOING TO COVER PURPOSE OF A POST IN PRINCIPLES TONE AND MESSAGE BASES.
WHAT WARRANTS A PRESS RELEASE.
NIXLE ALERTS, CONFIDENTIAL AND RESTRICTED INFORMATION, SOCIAL MEDIA CONSIDERATIONS, INTERNAL PROCESS.
I'M SORRY, WE'RE NOT HEARING THE AUDIO ONLINE.
SO ON OUR SCREENS IT SAYS THAT WE'RE MUTED.
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AND REVIEW.THE PURPOSE OF THE POST ARE TO INFORM THE PUBLIC PROMOTE TRANSPARENCY.
SO THE PURPOSE OF THE POST ARE TO INFORM THE PUBLIC, PROMOTE TRANSPARENCY, SUPPORT PUBLIC SAFETY, AND PROVIDE PERSPECTIVE.
SO HOPEFULLY OUR POSTS DO MULTIPLE OF THESE PURPOSES IN EACH OF THEM.
BUT TO KIND OF COVER OVER THE FOUR INDIVIDUAL PURPOSES, INFORMING THE PUBLIC IS AN EXAMPLE OF, UH, THE POST ON THE RIGHT, WHICH IS A PICTURE OF US AT THE FAIR.
AND IT'S KIND OF TALKING ABOUT THINGS THAT YOU'RE ALLOWED TO BRING TO THE FAIR, THINGS THAT YOU CAN'T.
IT'S TELLING THE COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE THERE IN CASE THEY NEED ANYTHING.
IT'S SHARING DATES ABOUT THE FAIR, SO JUST SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHERE YOU'RE SHARING EVENTS THAT ARE GOING ON WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE THERE, OR MAYBE RULES OF SOMETHING THAT'S GOING ON.
ANOTHER REASON WE MAY MAKE A SOCIAL MEDIA POST OR SHARE A PRESS RELEASE IS TO PROMOTE TRANSPARENCY.
WE TRY TO SHARE AS MUCH INFORMATION AS POSSIBLE WHEN IT ALLOWS.
SO AN EXAMPLE OF THAT IS A POST ABOUT OUR STATS.
WE SHARE MONTHLY STATS SO THE COMMUNITY IS INFORMED ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON AND IF THEY'RE INTERESTED IN THEIR SPECIFIC DISTRICTS.
WE ALSO HAVE NEWSLETTERS THAT GO OUT SHARING A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC STATS.
ANOTHER REASON WE MAY MAKE A POST IS TO SUPPORT PUBLIC SAFETY.
SO KEEPING THE PUBLIC INFORMED ABOUT DIFFERENT LAWS THAT MAY BE HAPPENING, WHETHER THAT'S DAYLIGHTING, UH, E-BIKE, SAFETY ROAD CLOSURES, IF WE'RE LOOKING FOR A SUSPECT, KIND OF LIKE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
ANOTHER REASON WE'LL MAKE A POST AND KIND OF THE LAST ONE THAT WE'RE COVERING RIGHT NOW IS TO PROVIDE PERSPECTIVE.
WE DEFINITELY DON'T WANT MISINFORMATION TO BE OUT THERE.
AND A LOT OF THE TIMES, IF WE DON'T SAY SOMETHING FIRST, THEN SOMETIMES THE COMMUNITY WILL DECIDE FOR US.
SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SHARING INFORMATION AS QUICKLY AND AS, AS WE POSSIBLY CAN, WHILE ALSO MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE ALL THE FACTS.
SO AN EXAMPLE OF THAT AND KIND OF WHERE WE CAN GIVE SOME MORE CONTEXT.
A LOT OF THE TIMES WHEN WE'RE POSTING SOMETHING LIKE A DUI CHECKPOINT, PEOPLE WILL COMMENT AND SAY, OH, YOU GUYS ARE JUST DOING THIS FOR MONEY, OR YOU ARE JUST TRYING TO KIND OF WASTE TIME.
AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT I LIKE TO CLEAR UP IN THE POST IS THAT WE'RE DOING A CHECKPOINT A BECAUSE WE HAVE A GRANT FOR IT AND WE ARE COMMITTED TO TRAFFIC SAFETY, BUT B, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT REALLY ABOUT MONEY OR EVEN CATCHING DUI DRIVERS.
IT'S GREAT IF WE DO, BUT IT'S MORE OF AN EDUCATIONAL PURPOSE.
AND SO TELLING PEOPLE THAT AHEAD OF TIME, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING, AND ADVERTISING IT THAT WAY, THAT THEY HAVE AWARENESS OF WHAT'S GOING ON AND ALSO HOW OUR DEPARTMENT OPERATES.
SO WE'RE NOT TRYING TO BE SNEAKY OR KIND OF CATCH YOU.
WE'RE SHOWING YOU WHAT'S GOING ON AND THEN ALSO TELLING YOU THE PURPOSE BEHIND IT.
SOME OF THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES THAT WE FOLLOW ARE ONLY AUTHORIZED STAFF MAY POST, WE COORDINATE MULTI-AGENCY INCIDENTS AND WE AVOID UNAUTHORIZED COMMENTARY.
WE ALWAYS TRY TO REMAIN NEUTRAL AND INFORMATIVE, RESPECT AND NEUTRALITY.
WE AVOID LANGUAGE THAT VILIFIES BLAMES OR SENS SENSATIONALIZES.
PRIVACY COMPLIANCE PROTECT JUVENILES, VICTIMS, AND THE IDENTITY OF THOSE NOT CHARGED OFFICER'S RIGHTS.
WE DO NOT DISCLOSE IDENTITIES IN CRITICAL INCIDENTS UNLESS CONSENT IS GIVEN OR REQUIRED.
IN ANY POST, UM, REGARDLESS OF IF IT'S FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR ANYWHERE, IT SHOULD BE COMING FROM BUILDING AN EMOTIONAL CONNECTION WITH WHO YOU'RE TRYING TO REACH.
SO IF THE COMMUNITY IS FEELING AFRAID OR FEELINGS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S AN INCIDENT GOING ON, HOW CAN WE REASSURE THEM THAT WE'RE ON TOP OF IT? SO KIND OF COMING FROM THAT PLACE, FIRST WE FOCUS ON FOUR MAIN BASES ON POLICY.
SO WHAT IS THE LAW? AN EXAMPLE OF THAT IS SHARING, UM, THE GUN LOCK PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE AND HOW THAT'S A PETALUMA ORDINANCE.
AN EXAMPLE OF ANOTHER BASE, WHICH IS PUBLIC SAFETY, IS WHAT ARE WE DOING TO RESPOND OR ENFORCE THE LAW WOULD BE A CHECKPOINT.
TANGIBLE EXAMPLE IS, HEY, WE'RE LOOKING FOR THIS SUSPECT.
THIS IS WHAT'S BEING REPORTED.
IF YOU KNOW THEM, PLEASE LET US KNOW.
AND AN INTANGIBLE WOULD BE SOMETHING LIKE, HEY, THERE'S A FLOOD IN THIS AREA, PLEASE.
YOU KNOW, USE YOUR COMMON SENSE AND DON'T GO INTO THE WATER.
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MESSAGE BASE WOULD BE TO GIVE KUDOS.SO WHO CAN WE THINK IF WE'VE WORKED WITH A COMMUNITY, IF WE'VE DONE A SCHOOL VISIT OR BEEN INVITED SOMEWHERE, OR IF WE'RE WORKING WITH ANOTHER AGENCY ON A CASE, THEN GIVING THEM A LITTLE SHOUT OUT.
SO THERE ARE A FEW DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WARRANT A PRESS RELEASE AND THERE'S FOUR DIFFERENT OR FIVE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES THAT WE KIND OF GET INTO.
SO THE FIRST ONE WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT INCIDENT, UM, HOMICIDES, OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTINGS, MAJOR COLLISIONS, LARGE ARRESTS, SIGNIFICANT PLANNED EVENTS, NOTABLE INCIDENTS THAT ALIGN WITH OUR SERVICE PRIORITIES, REDUCING CRIME, INCREASING TRAFFIC SAFETY, IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF LIFE OR ENGAGING WITH THE COMMUNITY.
AN EXAMPLE OF THAT WAS WE HAD HAVE A RECENT, UM, REPORTED GUNSHOT INCIDENT, UM, PROBABLY ABOUT A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO THAT WAS BEING INVESTIGATED.
SO WE WANNA LET THE COMMUNITY KNOW ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
COMMUNITY SERVICE AND SUCCESSES IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE.
SO THIS IS SOMETHING LIKE MAYBE WE VISITED A SCHOOL, WE WERE DOING OUTREACH, OR THE EXAMPLE THAT IS IN THIS SLIDE IS WHEN A COMMUNITY MEMBER CALLED IN THAT THEY SUSPECTED A DRUNK DRIVER AND WE WERE ABLE TO PULL THE DRIVER OVER AND THEY WERE IN FACT DRUNK.
SO THANKING THE COMMUNITY FOR HELPING US WITH THINGS LIKE THAT.
SAFETY ISSUES ARE ANOTHER THING.
SO IF THERE'S GONNA BE A ROAD CLOSURE, FLOODS, FIRE HAZARDS, SAFETY ROAD ISSUES, WE WANNA LET PEOPLE KNOW TO AVOID THE AREA AND JUST TRY TO RAISE AWARENESS, WHETHER IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GOING ON BECAUSE OF THE WEATHER OR UM, DOWN POWER LINES, SOMETHING PUBLIC WORKS RELATED.
ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP MITIGATE SOME OF THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS.
UH, THE PICTURE IS A POST ABOUT A PARKING ENFORCEMENT OPERATION.
SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING A LOT OF COMMUNITY CONCERNS WHEN WE SEE REPEATED CRIMES THAT ARE OCCURRING OR IF THERE'S A TREND HAPPENING AND IT FEELS LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF CATALYTIC CONVERTER THEFTS.
OKAY, WE'RE NOTICING THAT THERE'S BEEN SIX THEFTS.
THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY MAKING SURE WE'RE LETTING PEOPLE KNOW AND WE SEE THINGS LIKE THAT.
UH, JUST TO BE AWARE ANYTIME WE'RE DOING, UH, AN OFFICE OF TRAFFIC SAFETY EVENT.
SO THAT'S ONE OF OUR GRANT PROGRAMS. IF IT'S A DUI OPERATION, WE JUST LAST WEEK AND ACTUALLY TODAY HAD A BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN SAFETY EVENT.
SO WE HAVE OFFICERS ENFORCING DOWNTOWN.
SO ANY KIND OF EVENT LIKE THAT WHERE IT'S, UM, BEING SPONSORED BY THE OFFICE OF TRAFFIC SAFETY, WE WOULD SHARE.
AND THEN ALSO LIKE CITYWIDE INITIATIVES LIKE THE SLOW, THE FAST DOWN CAMPAIGN WHERE HOPEFULLY HAVING PEOPLE SLOW DOWN.
NIX L IS OUR SAFETY PLATFORM WE USE TO CONNECT WITH THE COMMUNITY IMMEDIATELY.
WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT TYPES OF ALERTS THAT YOU ALL HAVE PROBABLY SEEN.
THE FIRST ONE IS THE ALERT, WHICH IS URGENT.
THERE'S A IMMEDIATE NEED TO KNOW.
AN EXAMPLE OF THAT WOULD BE AN EVACUATION OR A DANGEROUS SITUATION.
IT'S IMPORTANT INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED TO KNOW.
WEATHER CONDITIONS COMMUNITY IS JUST AN INFORMATIONAL THAT YOU WANT TO KNOW.
LIKE WE'RE HAVING A SPECIAL EVENT IF, FOR EXAMPLE, PETALUMA NIGHT OUT COMING OUT.
WE JUST WANNA SHARE THAT WITH THE COMMUNITY ON ALL VIA NICKEL AND ALL OF OUR SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS. THERE ARE NICKEL'S RECEIVE VIA TEXT, EMAIL, OR BOTH.
REMEMBER, YOU CAN ALWAYS GO INTO YOUR ACCOUNT ONLINE AND YOU CAN ADJUST HOW YOU RECEIVE THOSE MESSAGES AND ALSO WHAT TYPE OF ALERTS YOU CAN RECEIVE.
NEXT SLIDE, UM, ALERTS AND PUBLIC REQUEST.
THERE ARE A SERIES OF DIFFERENT TYPE OF ALERTS THAT WE CAN UTILIZE AND WE JUST WANNA PROVIDE YOU A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES OF THOSE.
ONES THAT YOU'RE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH IS AMBER ALERTS.
FOR CHILD ABDUCTIONS, THERE HAS TO BE CERTAIN CRITERIA THAT IS MET BEFORE THAT CAN BE ISSUED.
WE ALSO HAVE A BLUE ALERT THAT'S ISSUED WHEN A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER IS SERIOUSLY INJURED, KILLED, OR MISSING IN THE LINE OF DUTY.
THE SILVER ALERT IS FOR MISSING ELDERLY INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE 65 PLUS, OR THOSE WITH COGNITIVE IMPAIRMENTS AND EXAMPLE WOULD BE ALZHEIMER'S.
THESE, ALL THESE ALERTS ARE ISSUED THROUGH THE CALIFORNIA HIGHWAY PATROL IN PARTNERSHIP WITH LOCAL AGENCIES.
THESE ARE BROADCAST VIA THE FREEWAY SIGNS, MEDIA, NICKEL, THE WIRELESS EMERGENCY ALERT SYSTEM AND SOCIAL MEDIA.
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SO A FEW QUESTIONS THAT I TYPICALLY GET IN TERMS OF PRESS RELEASES AND SOCIAL MEDIA ARE, YOU KNOW, HOW COME WE DIDN'T GET A PRESS RELEASE ABOUT X, Y, Z OR THERE'S SOMETHING HAPPENING NEXT TO MY HOUSE AND NOTHING WAS SAID ABOUT IT.HOW COME WE DIDN'T HEAR ABOUT IT UNTIL WAY LATER? UM, OR WHY DOES SOME POSTS INCLUDE SUSPECT DETAILS AND OTHERS DON'T? AND I THINK ALL OF THOSE QUESTIONS KIND OF HAVE THE SAME ANSWER IN THAT WE'RE A TRYING TO PROTECT THE INTEGRITY OF THE CASE.
WE DON'T WANNA GIVE OUT ALL OF THE DETAILS IF WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE KIND OF KEEPING TO OURSELVES.
WE DON'T WANNA LET THE SUSPECT KNOW IN CASE, YOU KNOW, ON THE OFF CHANCE THAT THEY KNOW WE KNOW SOME OF THE DETAILS.
UM, AND ALSO FOR VICTIMS, WE DON'T WANNA MAKE ANY SITUATION WORSE FOR THEM AND WANNA PROTECT THEIR IDENTITY.
SO YOU'LL ALMOST NEVER HEAR ABOUT INCIDENTS WHEN IT'S INVOLVING MENTAL HEALTH OR SUICIDE.
JUVENILES, UM, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.
IT'S NOT THAT THEY'RE NOT HAPPENING OR WE'RE TRYING TO BE SECRETIVE ABOUT IT, IT'S THAT WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK OUT FOR THE VICTIMS IN THOSE SCENARIOS.
OBVIOUSLY THERE'S SOME CASES WHERE THAT'S NOT GONNA BE TRUE, AND THERE'S A PICTURE UP THERE THAT WAS IN THE PRESS DEMOCRAT AND THAT WE DID PRESS RELEASE, THAT IT WAS A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE INCIDENT.
AND WHEN, WHEN WE HAVE THE MA, WHICH IS THAT GIANT VEHICLE, OUR UM, RESCUE VEHICLE OUT, THERE'S NO WAY WE CANNOT KIND OF ADDRESS WHAT'S GOING ON.
AND SO WE WANNA ASSURE THE PUBLIC IN THOSE SITUATIONS, HEY, THIS IS WHAT'S HAPPENING.
WE'RE, WE'RE OUT HERE AND WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT THE COMMUNITY, BUT SOME OF THE DETAILS ARE JUST NOT GONNA BE PUBLIC.
ANOTHER QUESTION WE GET IS, UM, HOW DOES THE DEPARTMENT DIFFERENTIATE WHAT IS NOTABLE TO US VERSUS THE PUBLIC? SO IF WE POSTED ABOUT DUIS, THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF OUR NEWSFEED WOULD BE ABOUT DUIS.
IT'S UNFORTUNATE REALITY IN PETALUMA IS THAT WE DO HAVE A HIGHER RATE OF DUIS, SO WE DON'T SHARE THINGS LIKE DUIS ALL THE TIME UNLESS THERE'S ANOTHER FACTOR TYPICALLY INVOLVED.
SO IF, IF IT'S A DUI AND THEN THERE'S ALSO DRUGS IN THE CAR AND IT'S A SALES OR IF IT'S A COLLISION, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO SORT OF THE FREQUENCY OF THE EVENT.
IF IT SEEMS A LITTLE BIT ODD FOR THE COMMUNITY OR IF IT'S A TREND, THEN WE'LL SHARE ABOUT IT.
BUT THE DAY-TO-DAY THINGS OF, HEY, WE ARRESTED SOMEONE ON A TRAFFIC STOP OR THIS, WE, WE GOT SOMEONE FOR SPEEDING, PROBABLY NOT THAT NOTABLE.
SO WE DON'T WANNA OVERWHELM EVERYBODY WITH EVERY SINGLE THING THAT WE DO AND RATHER JUST KEEP IT TO KIND OF THE MORE INTERESTING THINGS.
UM, AND THEN, YEAH, I GUESS THE LAST QUESTION ALSO, HOW COME WE DON'T KNOW MORE IF YOU DO? WE DO TRY TO SHARE UPDATES ON CASES WHEN IT'S APPROPRIATE.
BUT A LOT OF THE TIME, AGAIN, IT JUST GOES BACK TO PROTECTING THE INTEGRITY OF THE CASE AND THE VICTIMS AND WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ALL THE FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE WE PUT SOMETHING OUT.
UM, I GUESS KIND OF ONE OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS WE GET IS WHY DOES LAW ENFORCEMENT NEED SOCIAL MEDIA? AND THE REALITY IS THAT'S WHERE MOST OF OUR COMMUNITY IS.
WE HAVE A FAIRLY LARGE AMOUNT OF FOLLOWERS ON ALL OF THOSE PLATFORMS AND IS WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE GET MOST OF THEIR INFORMATION FROM.
AND WE WANT TO CONNECT WITH THEM WHERE THEY ALREADY ARE AND THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE IT WITH MORE PEOPLE.
SO, UM, IN ADDITION TO PROVIDING THE COMMUNITY WITH IMPORTANT INFORMATION AND UPDATES, IT HELPS US CONNECT WITH POTENTIAL RECRUITS, HIGHLIGHT STAFF MEMBERS, PROVIDE BEHIND THE SCENES LOOK AND REACH THOSE BEYOND OUR CURRENT SUBSCRIBERS.
AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF PICTURES UP THERE FROM WHEN PEOPLE HAVE REACHED OUT ABOUT RECRUITMENT OPPORTUNITIES.
AND THEN ON THE RIGHT IS A PICTURE OF OUR MOST RECENT, UH, FIREWORK SAFETY POST, AND THAT WAS MORE THAN HALF OF THE PEOPLE WHO SAW IT.
AND THERE'S 30, 30,000, ALMOST 31,000 PEOPLE.
SO MORE THAN HALF OF THEM WEREN'T INITIALLY FOLLOWING US, BUT STILL GOT THE MESSAGE THAT, HEY, FIREWORKS AREN'T ALLOWED IN PETALUMA.
SO TRYING TO GET THE MESSAGE OUT TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE.
AND THEN JUST A FEW DIFFERENT SOCIAL MEDIA AND PRESS RELEASE CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE TRY.
SO TIMELINESS AND ACCURACY, WE DO WANNA HAVE THE MOST ACCURATE INFORMATION OUT THERE AND WE TRY TO GET IT OUT AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE.
WE ALSO TRY TO POST ON AS MANY DIFFERENT PLATFORMS AS WE HAVE.
SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE ON NIXLE, FACEBOOK, INSTAGRAM, AND NEXTDOOR.
IS IT REALLY HELPFUL IF YOU GET A NIXLE AT 2:00 AM? PROBABLY NOT.
SO WE'RE GONNA TRY TO POST, UH, DURING THE DAYTIME.
UH, WE TRY, I TRY TO BE RESPONSIVE TO COMMENTS, BUT I'M ALSO ONE PERSON AND SOMETIMES THERE'S 50, 60 MORE THAN THAT COMMENTS.
BUT WHEN WE ARE RESPONDING, WE ARE PROFESSIONAL IN COMMENTS AND JUST KIND OF THERE TO, UM, AGAIN, PREVENT SOME MISINFORMATION FROM SPREADING AND THEN ALSO UTILIZING SCHEDULING.
SO IF WE KNOW THERE'S AN EVENT GOING ON, PLANNING IN ADVANCE THAT WE'LL BE NOTIFYING PEOPLE.
WE DO HAVE AN INTERNAL PROCESS AND REVIEW WHEN IT COMES TO SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS AND PRESS RELEASES.
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THE PERSON WHO DRAFTS THE RESPONSE.IT IS THEN REVIEWED BY THE DIVISION LIEUTENANT OR THE WATCH COMMANDER AND APPROVED BY THE CHIEF OF POLICE, DEPUTY CHIEF OR DESIGNEE.
AND WE CONSIDER LEGAL COUNSEL IF NEEDED.
KEY TAKEAWAYS WE WANT YOU TO CONSIDER IS WE FOLLOW DEPARTMENT POLICY AND LAW FOR ALL MEDIA INTERACTIONS.
WE USE APPROPRIATE MESSAGE TYPES TO MANAGE URGENCY AND IMPACT, PROTECT PRIVACY, AND AVOID SPECULATION.
COMMUNICATION IS A PUBLIC SAFETY TOOL, NOT JUST PR, ALWAYS PRIORITIZE ACCURACY, RESPECT, AND TRANSPARENCY.
AND WE'RE HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
AND THANK YOU FOR LETTING US PRESENT TO YOU.
THAT WAS A FANTASTIC, UM, PRESENTATION.
UH, I'LL OPEN UP THE COMMITTEE.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UH, THE REASON WHY, UM, WE BROUGHT THIS UP TO THE CHIEF IS, UH, AND N SAW COME OUT AND ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT GIVES PEOPLE'S NAMES.
OFTENTIMES IT GIVES PEOPLE'S NAMES AND WHETHER IT'S A A, A SUSPECT OR SOMETHING THAT'S NOT, UH, UH, IT DOESN'T NEED TO INCLUDE PEOPLE'S NAMES.
AND JUST IN TERMS OF I CAN GENERAL LAW THINGS THAT YOU CAN'T LIKE INCRIMINATE AGAINST SOMEONE BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN CON UH, ACCUSED OF A CRIME BUT NOT CONVICTED OF A CRIME.
AND THE REASON WHY I WAS, THE REASON WE WERE BRINGING IT UP AND INITIALLY WAS ABOUT DO YOU HAVE TO INCLUDE PEOPLE'S NAMES? UM, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING, TELLING PEOPLE ABOUT THAT YOU PULLED SOMEONE OVER OR YOU DID SOMETHING BECAUSE UNTIL THERE'S AN ACTUAL CONVICTION OF A CRIME, YOU'RE BASICALLY PUTTING SOMEONE'S NAME OUT THERE WHO'S HASN'T RECEIVED DUE PROCESS AND ALL THAT.
I THINK FOR IT MAYBE AS A DEPARTMENT BY DEPARTMENT CASE, FOR US IT'S PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE WHEN THERE'S AN ARREST MADE.
SO IF IT'S ALREADY BEING KIND OF REPORTED ON ONLINE THERE, THE INSTANCES WHEN WE DON'T INCLUDE A NAME IS WHEN IT'S A JUVENILE OR SOME WHEN WE'RE REPORTING ON DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.
SO KIND OF THE SAME CASES I WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER, WHEN THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A PRIVACY ASPECT, BUT WHEN IT'S ALREADY PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE, UM, THERE'S NOT REALLY I GUESS A POINT OF CONTENTION WITH THAT, AT LEAST, AT LEAST FOR OUR DEPARTMENT.
AND I'LL JUST ADD, UH, THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS ARE THERE'S PUBLICLY RELEASABLE INFORMATION OR REQUIRED INFORMATION.
SO WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN AN ARREST LOG THAT'S PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE.
IT'S ACTUALLY POSTED ON OUR CITY, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT'S WEBSITE.
WE HAVE A PRINTED VERSION IF SOMEONE WANTS TO WALK INTO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ASK TO SEE THAT.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE A RECORD OF CALLS FOR SERVICE OVER THE LAST WEEK.
AND I BELIEVE, I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT'S 24 HOURS OR 48 HOURS FOR OUR ARREST LOG, BUT THERE'S A A PERIOD OF TIME WHERE THAT'S PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE.
AND I THINK ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IS WE, WE TRY TO DO A STORYTELLING, UM, COMMUNICATION STYLE WHEN THERE'S THEMES OR TRENDS AND MAYBE IT'S LESS TIED TO INDIVIDUAL SUSPECTS IN THOSE CASES, BUT WHEN THERE'S A CASE AND IT'S IN THE PUBLIC EYE, UM, IT WAS NOTABLE AND IT'S SPECIFIC TO A SINGLE PERSON.
ONE, THE SUSPECT INFORMATION IS PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE AND AVAILABLE AND IT KIND OF CLOSES OUT THAT THAT'S THE FIRST QUESTION WE GET.
AND SO RATHER THAN PEOPLE ASKING, WELL, WHO WAS THE SUSPECT AND US BEING REQUIRED TO ANSWER AND PROVIDE THAT, WE JUST PROVIDE THAT ON THE FRONT END.
AND I TOTALLY RECOGNIZE THAT THERE'S, UM, THE DUE PROCESS COMPONENT, BUT THAT'S JUST WHAT THE WAY THE LAW IS.
WHAT WE ALSO DO HAVE, IF, IF SOMEONE HAS THE CASE DISMISSED OR EXPUNGED, THERE'S A PROCESS FOR US TO, TO HEAR THAT AND HAVE THAT POST LATER REMOVED.
YOU KNOW, I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THAT THAT HORRIBLE CASE WHERE THAT PERSON ACCUSED A COUPLE OF, OF TRYING TO KIDNAP HER CHILD AND IT WAS COMPLETE BS AND, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THAT AND THAT THOSE PEOPLE'S NAMES WERE ALL OVER THE PLACE AND THEY SUFFERED BIG TIME REPERCUSSIONS.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY EVER, IF THEY SUED, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DID, BUT, UM, THAT, THAT'S THE KIND OF THING I WAS THINKING OF THAT LIKE, WAIT A SECOND.
YOU'RE PUTTING OUT SOMEONE'S NAME AS A POTENTIAL SUSPECT AND IF, IF IT DOES TURN OUT THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY'RE EXONERATED THAT, DO YOU PUT OUT ANOTHER NICKEL TO MAKE SURE, I MEAN, ARE WE, ARE WE BEING, IS THERE SOMETHING REALLY THAT SAYS IN THE LAW THAT SOMEONE IS JUST ACCUSED OF SOMETHING, YOU HAVE TO TELL THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY A PERSON'S NAME THAT JUST STRANGE.
YEAH, I WOULD, I'D TO ADDRESS THAT SPECIFICALLY.
SO IN THAT CASE THAT YOU'RE REFERENCING, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DID NOT PUBLICLY RELEASE THE NAMES OF THE INDIVIDUALS.
THERE WAS AN INITIAL ALLEGATION THAT A CHILD WAS ATTEMPTED TO BE ABDUCTED AND THERE WAS VIDEO SURVEILLANCE FROM
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THE BUSINESS WHERE THE INCIDENT OCCURRED.UM, AND THE, THE REPORTING PARTY, THE WHAT WAS PERCEIVED AT THAT TIME TO BE A VICTIM, THE MOTHER OF THE CHILD IDENTIFIED THE PEOPLE IN THE VIDEO STILL IMAGE.
AND SO THAT IMAGE WAS PUSHED OUT BASED ON IT BEING A POTENTIAL CHILD ABDUCTION.
UM, MY RECOLLECTION IS THAT THE INDIVIDUALS INVOLVED RECOGNIZED THEMSELVES OR THROUGH OTHERS WERE LIKE MADE AWARE OF THE CASE AND THROUGH NEWS MEDIA SELF-IDENTIFIED THEMSELVES, UM, AND WENT ON TO THE NEWS AND TALKED ABOUT IT.
IN THAT CASE, THE INVESTIGATION PROCEEDED AND WE DID ARREST THE REPORTING PARTY, THE, THE MOTHER OF THE CHILD AND THEY WERE CONVICTED, UM, FOR FILING A FALSE POLICE REPORT.
AND SO WE TRY TO BE INCREDIBLY SENSITIVE TO THOSE PRIVACY CONCERNS.
BUT THERE'S ALSO THINGS WHERE I WOULD HOPE THAT, UH, IF THERE'S ANY BELIEF THAT SOMEONE IS ATTEMPTING TO ABDUCT A CHILD OR KIDNAPPING OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE, THAT WE'RE GONNA DO EVERYTHING AVAILABLE TO TRY TO IDENTIFY THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND DETERMINE IF IT'S A LEGITIMATE REPORT AND BRING THOSE INDIVIDUALS TO JUSTICE IF THAT'S THE CASE.
UM, SO WITH THE RECENT FLOODS IN TEXAS, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ALERTING CAPABILITY OF THAT COMMUNITY, I THINK, TINA, THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT WE HAVE WIRELESS EMERGENCY ALERT CAPABILITY HERE IN THE CITY OF PETALUMA.
SO FOLKS THAT EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT SIGNED UP FOR NEXEL, IF SAY WE ARE GONNA HAVE, IF IF WE HAD FLOODING OR SOMETHING, UM, I CAN EARTHQUAKE THE CITY OF PETALUMA CAN SEND OUT WIRELESS EMERGENCY ALERTS TO PEOPLE'S CELL PHONES EVEN THOUGH THEY'VE NEVER SIGNED UP.
RIGHT? WE HAVE THAT CAPABILITY.
UM, I IT'S GREAT PRESENTATION ABOUT HOW YOU GUYS ARE USING SOCIAL MEDIA TO SORT OF GET THE MESSAGE OUT THERE.
I'M KIND OF CURIOUS ABOUT, AND MAYBE THIS IS THE WRONG FORM, BUT I'M KIND OF CURIOUS ABOUT THE REVERSE.
LIKE, ARE THERE ANY INCIDENCES OR WHAT'S THE PROTOCOL IF SOMEONE WANTED TO USE SOCIAL MEDIA TO REACH BACK OUT TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT? I KNOW THERE'S EMAIL ADDRESSES AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT SORT OF IF SOMEONE WANTED TO SORT OF REPORT A CRIME TO YOU IN THE COMMENT SECTION OF INSTAGRAM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, LIKE WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE PROCESS AND PROCEDURE WHEN THAT HAPPENS? YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
AND IT DOES HAPPEN FAIRLY OFTEN WHERE PEOPLE ARE TYPICALLY IT'S, YOU KNOW, UM, SOMEONE'S PARKED SOMEWHERE MORE LOWER LEVEL THINGS.
BUT EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE SOMEONE WILL MESSAGE ME ON INSTAGRAM OR ON FACEBOOK AND REPORT A CRIME AND THEN I'LL FORWARD IT TO THE ON-DUTY SERGEANT AND IT'LL BE ASSIGNED WHETHER IT GETS PASSED OFF TO THE INVESTIGATIONS TEAM OR MAYBE IT'S JUST AN OFFICER TO GO TO A CHECK THE WELFARE.
BUT I TRY TO GO THROUGH OUR MESSAGES WHEN, WHEN THEY HAPPEN.
UM, AND I KNOW CHIEF AND DEPUTY CHIEF ALSO HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE PLATFORMS AS WELL.
AND ONE OF US IS RESPONDING TO SOMEBODY AND PASSING IT ON TO WHOEVER IT IS.
UM, MY PREFERENCE IS THAT PEOPLE DON'T PUT IT IN THE COMMENTS BECAUSE THEY ARE VERY EASILY LOST.
BUT I, I DO TRY TO MONITOR THOSE SEVERAL TIMES A DAY WHERE I'M JUST ON MY PHONE LOOKING FOR UPDATES WITH, WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE SAYING THINGS.
AND UM, YEAH, WE, WE DO HAVE AN INTERNAL PROCESS AND IF THAT'S THE ONLY WAY PEOPLE FEEL COMFORTABLE REACHING OUT, THEN I THINK WE'D RATHER HAVE THAT THAN PEOPLE NOT SAY ANYTHING.
AND ALSO KIND OF ALSO ADDS TO IT THAT WE SHOULD BE MAKING MORE POSTS MAYBE ABOUT HOW TO REPORT CRIME SO PEOPLE ARE REPORTING THAT WAY.
BUT AGAIN, IF PEOPLE WANT TO REPORT IT TO ME ON A MESSAGE, THAT'S FINE.
SO PEOPLE CAN LIKE DM THE INSTAGRAM ACCOUNT AND THEY WOULD BASICALLY GET TO YOU AND YOU WOULD SAY, HEY, OKAY, THIS SOUNDS LIKE A CRIME, I'M GOING TO SEND THIS OVER TO A PRO PERSONAL FOLLOW UP.
YEAH, I USUALLY, I'M, SINCE I'M NOT A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, I USUALLY JUST PASS IT ON TO THE SERGEANT AND LET THEM DECIDE, HEY, YEAH, WE'RE GONNA INVESTIGATE THIS OR KIND OF ASSIGN IT THROUGH THEMSELVES.
BUT IT'S HAPPENED EVEN WITHIN THE PAST COUPLE OF WEEKS WHERE PEOPLE HAVE REPORTED, YOU KNOW, THIS PERSON CAN YOU CHECK THIS PERSON OUT? SO THEY'RE POSTING SOMETHING WEIRD.
SO IT'S EVEN, YOU KNOW, SOCIAL MEDIA ON SOCIAL MEDIA CRIME.
BUT UM, YEAH, THEY CAN MESSAGE IN.
THE ONE THING I DO WANT TO JUST RAISE IS, SO KELSEY MENTIONED SHE'S, SHE'S OUR ONE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT LIAISON AND MONITORING TO THE BEST OF HER ABILITIES.
WE, WE WOULD JUST ASK THE PUBLIC TO NOT USE THAT AS IF SOMETHING'S ACTIVELY OCCURRING, DON'T DEFAULT TO USING ONE OF THE SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS. UM, THERE'S TEXT TO 9 1 1 NOW THAT'S AVAILABLE.
YOU CAN TEXT THE COMM CENTER FROM YOUR CELL PHONE, YOU CAN USE AN ANONYMOUS, UH, CRIME TIPPING, UH, THAT GOES TO EMAIL AND THE EMAILS ARE MONITORED AND COME INTO OUR DISPATCH CENTER.
BUT WHAT WE GET SOMETIMES, UNFORTUNATELY IS THIS IS OCCURRING RIGHT NOW.
AND, AND EVEN THOUGH THE PROMPTS ON ALL OF OUR PLATFORMS RESPOND THAT THIS ISN'T MONITORED 24 7, IF IT'S AN EMERGENCY OR ACTIVELY OCCURRING, PLEASE CALL 9 1 1 OR THE COMMUNICATION CENTER.
WE STILL SEE THAT THOSE THINGS DON'T NECESSARILY GET REPORTED.
AND SO HAD THEY BEEN REPORTED TO THE DISPATCH CENTER, THERE'S OFTEN A HIGHER LIKELIHOOD THAT WE COULD GET AN OFFICER ASSIGNED.
SO THEY'RE GREAT FOR, HEY, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THIS, OR THIS HAS BEEN OCCURRING IN MY AREA AND CAN I GET MORE INFORMATION? OR CAN WE GET EXTRA PATROLS FOR THESE KIND
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OF, YOU KNOW, SPEEDING'S BEEN HAPPENING ON MY STREET, CAN YOU, CAN YOU GIVE SOME ASSISTANCE THERE? BUT IF IT'S LIKE, RIGHT NOW, THIS PERSON IS, WE'VE GOTTEN, WE GOT A VIDEO A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, THIS PERSON IS DRINKING IN THEIR CAR AND DRIVING AND WE GOT IT LATER.AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DO A REALLY GOOD JOB, BUT WE CAN'T BE ON TOP OF THAT AT ALL TIMES.
SO I WOULD JUST SAY, PLEASE, PLEASE SUBMIT THOSE BACK TO THE COMM CENTER AND THOSE ARE THE BEST OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO BE AS TIMELY AND RESPONSIVE AS POSSIBLE.
I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE TOO, WE BRIEFLY MENTIONED IT, BUT WHEN PEOPLE DO MESSAGE IN, THEY GET THIS AUTO RESPONSE THAT SAYS AGAIN, LIKE, THIS ISN'T MONITORED, SO PLEASE CALL.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S AN EMERGENCY, BUT YEAH, I'VE HAD PEOPLE MESSAGE, THERE'S A FIRE HAPPENING HERE AND IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, I SEE IT AN HOUR OR LATER HOUR OR SO LATER.
SO IDEALLY REPORTING TO SOMEWHERE ELSE, BUT WE'LL TAKE IT WHERE WE CAN GET IT.
INSTAGRAM IS NOT A REPLACEMENT FOR 9 1 1, IT'S NOT A REPLACEMENT FOR 9 1 1.
UM, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND UM, I REALLY COMMEND YOU GUYS FOR DOING THE, UM, THERE WAS A GREAT NEW YEAR'S, YOU KNOW, DON'T GO TO THIS PARTY, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA END UP WITH BRACELETS YOU DON'T WANT.
AND IT SHOWED THE HANDCUFFS AND, YOU KNOW, DRINKING AND DRIVING.
AND THEN THE ONE ABOUT THE FIREWORKS, THERE WAS ONE THAT IT HAD A WHOLE LIST OF WHEN TO CALL AND WHEN NOT TO CALL.
IT'S LIKE, UM, I'M SEEING FIREWORKS IN MY, YOU KNOW, IN, IN MY YARD, IN MY AIR NEIGHBORHOOD AND WHEN NOT TO CALL IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, MY HUSBAND'S ASLEEP OR MY, I FORGET HOW IT WAS, BUT IT WAS REALLY VERY CLEVER.
AND I JUST REMEMBER MY DOGS DOING FIREWORKS AND THAT'S WHEN NOT TO CALL
IT WAS PRETTY FUNNY AND VERY HUMOROUS.
AND BASICALLY THE MESSAGE WAS TO CALL THE NON-URGENT NUMBER IF YOU FEEL UNSAFE.
AND THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, THE, UM, WE'RE AN MTV, UH, GENERATION AND SO YOU HAVE TO CATCH PEOPLE'S ATTENTIONS WITH CLEVER LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, BACK TO THE SLIDE ABOUT GUIDING PRINCIPLES.
IT, UM, I WAS TRYING TO TAKE NOTES AND CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES SLIDE AND EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE? DO YOU WANT ME TO GO AHEAD? I CAN GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTEXT.
SO BY ONLY AUTHORIZED STAFF MAY POST, THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO HAVE ACCESS TO POSTING RIGHT NOW, AT LEAST ON SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS, UH, IS THE CHIEF, MYSELF AND THE DEPUTY CHIEF.
PRESS RELEASES ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF THE RESPONSIBILITY OF WHOEVER'S ON DUTY.
SO IF, IF I'M WORKING, I'M HAPPY TO DO A PRESS RELEASE, BUT IT, IT MAY FALL TO THE SERGEANT OR, UM, IF IT'S A QUICK NICKEL JUST SAYING AVOID THIS ROAD, ROAD, THEN THAT'S GONNA BE MAYBE A DISPATCHER.
BUT BASICALLY WE DON'T WANT ANYONE IN THE DEPARTMENT TO FEEL LIKE, HEY, I, I TOOK THIS RANDOM PHOTO, I'M JUST GONNA UPLOAD IT AND PRESS SEND.
UM, ALSO THE, THE OFFICER'S PHOTOS AREN'T VERY GOOD, SO YOU WOULDN'T WANNA SEE THEM ANYWAY.
WELL, AND WHY I ASK THAT IS BECAUSE SOMETIMES PEOPLE GO, HOW COME THERE WASN'T A NEXEL ON THIS? MM-HMM
AND I'M LIKE, WELL, MAYBE WE DIDN'T HAVE STAFF AVAILABLE TO MAKE THE NIXLE.
SO ARE THOSE AUTHORIZED STAFF PERSONNEL 24 7? YEAH.
AND IF IT'S A ROAD CLOSURE OR SOMETHING, AND I I ALSO, THIS IS A A GOOD POINT THAT YOU BRING UP.
I THINK IT'S ALSO HAS TO DO WITH JURISDICTION.
LIKE I HAD A FEW PEOPLE MESSAGING AND CALLING MY LINE YESTERDAY ASKING WHAT WAS HAPPENING ON ADOBE ROAD.
SO ADOBE ROAD IS IN PETALUMA, BUT THAT WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WERE, IT WAS A TRAFFIC THING GOING ON THAT WAS CHP IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
SO WE WOULDN'T SEND AEL OUT ABOUT THAT 'CAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING OVER THERE EITHER.
UM, SO IT'S KIND OF A, A SITUATION OF SENDING IT OUT WHEN WE'RE AWARE IF SOMETIMES FIRE SENDS IT OUT.
UM, SOMETIMES IT'S SOMETHING WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND THEY'LL CALL US AND SAY, HEY, CAN YOU PUT SOMETHING OUT? SO IT'S SORT OF TIMING WISE, WHOEVER'S GETTING THE INFORMATION ACROSS IN GENERAL IT'S COMING FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT, UM, AND I'M NOT SURE WHY, OTHERWISE THERE WOULDN'T BE ONE STAFFING I GUESS.
OR I THINK ALSO TRYING TO GET THE FACTS STRAIGHT AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE NOT SAYING, HEY, THIS ROAD'S GONNA BE CLOSED FOR SIX HOURS.
WHEN IT'S ONLY 20 MINUTES, IS IT EVEN WORTH PUTTING A NICKEL OUT? SO I THINK THERE'S A FEW CONSIDERATIONS.
SO THERE IS SOMEBODY 24 7 AVAILABLE TO DO A NIXLE OR YEAH, SO A COMMUNITY ALERT.
SO OUR WORKFLOW AND, AND AND, UH, ALL OF OUR DISPATCHERS HAVE THE FUNCTIONALITY TO SEND OUT A NIXLE MESSAGE, THE SUPERVISORS AS WELL.
SO I THINK WE KIND OF DIFFERENTIATE NIX L'S OUR PLATFORM FOR ALERTS, ADVISORIES AND COMMUNITY COMMUNICATIONS.
UH, THAT'S ALSO THE PLATFORM THAT, EXCUSE ME, THAT WE ISSUE OUR PRESS RELEASES THROUGH, THROUGH THE COMMUNITY PLATFORM ON THAT.
UM, BUT LIKE A ROAD CLOSURE OR POWER LINES DOWN.
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KELSEY MENTIONED TOO, UM, I THINK THE BIGGEST THING THAT COMES UP IS WHY DIDN'T IT, WHY DID IT, THOSE, THOSE REALLY ARE KIND OF LUXURY ITEMS FOR US.UM, UNLESS IT'S AN EVACUATION THING WHERE WE'RE DOING THAT ALERT AND WARNING BECAUSE WE'RE CLEARING A, CLEARING AN AREA AND NEED THAT SUPPORT AND WE NEED AN ACTION FROM THE COMMUNITY.
BUT IF IT'S, UM, A ROAD CLOSURE OR SOMETHING AND IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, UM, WE MAY HAVE FOUR OFFICERS ON DUTY AND THE TWO DISPATCHERS AND THEY'RE INUNDATED WITH CALLS AND EVERYONE'S TIED UP AND THEY'RE FOCUSED ON THE IMMEDIATE SCENE AND UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY CAN GET TO IT, THEN THEY WILL ISSUE IT.
BUT SOMETIMES THE, THE SEAMS RESOLVED AND STABILIZED AND AT THAT POINT IT MAY NOT BE WORTH IT.
I THINK WE'VE SEEN, UM, SOME OPPORTUNITIES TOO WITH SOME SHELTER IN PLACES WHERE WE'RE FOCUSED AND WE'RE DOING THE ACTIVITIES AND CANDIDLY WE, WE, WE FORGET TO DO IT RIGHT.
UM, IT'S WAY DOWN ON THE CHECKLIST AND THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES FOR GROWTH THERE AND WE HAVE NEW STAFF AND NEW SUPERVISORS AND WE WORK ON TRYING TO INFORM THE PUBLIC 'CAUSE WE GET A LOT OF QUESTIONS AFTER OR SHOULD WE BE DOING SOMETHING AND WE'RE TRYING TO STAY AHEAD OF THAT.
UM, BUT OUR, OUR PRIMARY FOCUS IS ON THE INCIDENT OF ITSELF AND THEN WHEN WE CAN AND WHEN IT'S SAFE TO DO SO, WE TRY TO ISSUE THOSE, THOSE ADVISORIES WHEN APPROPRIATE.
SO THE UM, NICKELS FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS OUR 24 7 AVAILABLE STAFF TO DO NICKELS.
LIKE THERE WAS A GAS LEAK AND SO THEY WANTED TWO PEOPLE TO AVOID THE AREA OF KENTUCKY STREET AND WESTERN AVENUE AND IT WAS, UM, I DON'T THINK IT WENT OUT TO EVERYBODY AND THEN IT WENT OUT LATER OR SOMETHING AND PEOPLE WERE CONFUSED, IS THERE A SHELTER IN PLACE, ISN'T THERE? AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT THAT'S NOT FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THAT'S IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT? CORRECT.
SO THE CITY, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TECHNICALLY HAVE DIFFERENT ACCOUNTS WITHIN THE NIXLE PLATFORM.
THE REALITY IS IS THAT WE HAVE A COMMUNICATION CENTER THAT'S 24 7 AND FIRE CAN ISSUE THINGS THROUGH REDCOM OR HAVE ALERTS THROUGH, THROUGH THAT PLATFORM, BUT THEY'RE A REGIONAL COMMUNICATION CENTER.
SO WHAT WE OFTEN SEE, UH, IS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WILL COME ON OUR RADIO CHANNEL OR CALL AND REQUEST US TO ISSUE ONE.
AND SOMETIMES THAT'S WHY YOU SEE SOME MESSAGE COMING OUT FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT'S FIRE CENTRIC.
AND THAT'S ALSO SOMETIMES WHERE YOU DON'T SEE IT CONSISTENTLY FROM US.
'CAUSE WE ARE NOT GONNA PUT OUT INFORMATION ON BEHALF OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT UNLESS THEY REQUEST US TO DO SO.
AND SO, UM, WE DEFER TO THEM, BUT WE TRY TO BE THROUGH OUR EMERGENCY OPERATIONS MODEL, UM, THE LEAD IN THOSE, THOSE CRISIS COMMUNICATIONS, UM, WHEN WE CAN.
UH, I WAS ACTUALLY JUST GONNA ASK, UM, TO WALK THROUGH THE PROCESS OF LIKE, 'CAUSE I'VE GOTTEN PEOPLE ASKING, WELL, WHY WAS THE N SO LATE? AND, AND I DON'T THINK PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT.
THERE'S NOT LIKE AN ARMY OF DISPATCHERS.
THERE'S TWO DISPATCHERS 75 TO 80% OF THE TIME, AND ON A LUXURY SHIFT WE MIGHT HAVE THREE.
AND SO THEY'RE HANDLING CALLS AND COMING, DISPATCHING THE RADIO, CHECKING ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THEY'RE DOING AND THEN NIX L IS LIKE, OKAY, MAYBE THEY GET TO IT, MAYBE THEY DON'T.
AND I DON'T THINK THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTANDS THAT THAT'S HOW THE SYSTEM WORK, LIKE THAT WE DON'T HAVE FULL-TIME SOCIAL MEDIA PERSON TO DO THE THESE ALERTS AND TO STAY ON TOP OF THAT WE'RE, WE ARE A CITY OF 60,000, BUT WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, SANTA ROSA OR SOME OF THE OTHER LARGER CITIES THAT HAVE THOSE CAPABILITIES.
UM, AND I THINK THE CHIEF DID A GOOD, GOOD JOB OF EXPLAINING THAT JUST NOW.
AND I, I JUST WANNA ADD, THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING THAT OUR DISPATCH STAFFING RIGHT NOW IS CURRENTLY TWO ALL THE TIME.
WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF HIRING MORE DISPATCHERS, BUT AS A FORMER DISPATCHER, YOUR KEY PRIORITY IS THAT CRITICAL INCIDENT SERVING THE OFFICERS AND THE COMMUNITY.
AND UNFORTUNATELY THE NIXLE DOES FALL DOWN THE LIST AND WE RECOGNIZE THAT WE SHOULD GET THAT OUT QUICKLY.
ONE THING THAT WE ARE DOING TO KIND OF IMPROVE THAT IS KELSEY MONITORS THE RADIO, SHE'LL WALK IN AND SHE'LL SAY, HEY, DO YOU WANT ME TO SEND OUT A NIX ALERT? SHE'LL DO THAT.
WE'RE ALSO CROSS-TRAINING SOME RECORDS TECHS ALSO, ESPECIALLY THE FRONT COUNTER TO HEAR THAT RADIO AND HAVE THEM PUT OUT THE NICKEL SO WE CAN INFORM THE PUBLIC QUICKLY.
THIS ONE MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT TRICKY THOUGH.
UM, SO SOCIAL MEDIA TODAY IS KIND OF A MOVING TARGET, RIGHT? THESE COMPANIES ARE BOUGHT AND SOLD AND THAT CAN REALLY CHANGE THE EDITORIAL PERSPECTIVE AND REALLY CAN ALTER THE PUBLIC'S POINT OF VIEW OF THE INFORMATION THAT COMES FROM THAT PLATFORM.
WHAT'S THE MECHANISM FOR EVALUATING, LIKE IS THIS SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORM STILL APPROPRIATE FOR THE POINT OF VIEW THAT THE CITY OF PETALUMA
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AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WANNA PUT OUT? YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.I THINK EVERYONE HERE PROBABLY HAS THEIR OWN FAVORITE PLATFORM AND THAT'S KIND OF ALSO THE REALITY OF TRYING TO IMPACT EVERY, KNOWING THAT EVERYBODY HAS A DIFFERENT PLATFORM, NOT LIMITING OURSELVES TO ONE.
LIKE I KNOW MY PREFERENCE IS INSTAGRAM, BUT IF I ASK MY MOM, SHE'S ON FACEBOOK, SO I CAN'T JUST KEEP IT TO INSTAGRAM BECAUSE I ONLY LIKE INSTAGRAM.
SO, UM, MY KIDS NEVER PUT, UH, SNAPCHAT DOWN.
LIKE, I CAN'T GET TO PUT IT DOWN AT ALL.
WE'RE WORKING ON TIKTOK, BUT, UM, DISAPPEARS.
SNAPCHAT DISAPPEARS, SO IT'S NOT VERY, YEAH, IT'S NOT AS EFFECTIVE.
BUT JUST KEEPING, UM, KEEPING OUR EYES OPEN FOR OTHER PLATFORMS AND I MEAN, ADAPTING THEM CAN BE TRICKY SOMETIMES, ESPECIALLY WITH TWITTER, HAVING LIMITATIONS ON CHARACTERS OR ALL OF THEM NEED DIFFERENT PHOTO SIZES.
SO, UM, JUST BEING AWARE THAT, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF I FEEL LIKE IT'S OUTDATED OR RELEVANT DOESN'T MEAN SOMEBODY ELSE DOESN'T.
AND THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE BASE IT OFF OF IF ONE PLATFORM IS GETTING SOMETHING ALL THE REST OF THEM SHOULD BE.
YEAH, I THINK, I THINK THE OTHER THING AND, AND SO, UH, INTERESTING.
SO A LITTLE BIT OF A SLIP, RIGHT? WE'RE STILL, WE'RE STILL REFERRING TO TWITTER IS TWITTER AND NOT X AND THAT'S BEEN THE, THE REALLY CHALLENGING ONE.
IF YOU GO TO THE EAST COAST IN LAW ENFORCEMENT AND FOR A LOT OF GOVERNMENT AGENCIES, TWITTER AND X WAS THE PRIMARY PLATFORM AND SEEN TO BE THE MOST CONNECTED WITH MEDIA ORGANIZATIONS, I DON'T THINK UP HERE IN THE NORTH BAY, THAT THAT IS VERY PREVALENT.
UM, BUT WE'VE KIND OF EVOLVED, RIGHT? WE'VE ADDED INSTAGRAM THROUGH THE YEAR WE STARTED WITH FACEBOOK.
UM, AND THEN I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'VE SEEN A, A DRASTIC, UH, EVOLUTION WITH NEXTDOOR COMING ON, UM, WHICH IS INTERESTING.
IT HAS A, A DIFFERENT SUBSCRIBER BASE, BUT I THINK THE ONE THING IS THEY ALL HAVE DIFFERENT ADVANTAGES AND THEY ALL HAVE DIFFERENT LIMITATIONS AND DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHICS.
LIKE KELSEY MENTIONED, THE ONE HINDRANCE IN THE CHALLENGE THAT I THINK WE FIND, ESPECIALLY WITH NEXTDOOR, IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO SEE PEOPLE'S POSTS.
UM, AND SO THINGS HAVE TO BE REPORTED TO US, BUT WE CAN'T JUST SEE AND SEARCH FROM THE PLATFORM.
AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF, OF A LACK OF AWARENESS TO WHAT'S GOING ON ON THAT PLATFORM THAT I THINK THE COMMUNITY THINKS THAT WE HAVE AWARENESS TO, THAT WE DON'T SEE THOSE THINGS.
UM, AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE BLIND SPOTS WITH THAT PLATFORM.
AND THEN I THINK AS THINGS EVOLVE, WE HAVE TO BE OPEN AND RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS A TREND.
AND SO I THINK WE TRY TO BALANCE, WE'RE CLEARLY NOT ON DISCORD OR PARLOR OR SOME OF THE OTHER NOTABLE PLATFORMS, RIGHT? BUT I THINK AS KELSEY MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, WE EVALUATE THINGS THAT, THAT THE YOUNGER GENERATIONS ARE ADAPTING TO BECAUSE THOSE, THE, THE REALLY, THOSE PROBABLY MORE AT RISK, UM, AGE GROUPS THAT WE WANT TO GET SOME OF OUR EDUCATIONAL MESSAGING OUT TO.
BUT JUST TO DRILL DOWN SPECIFICALLY, YOU GUYS ALSO WILL EVALUATE SORT OF THE PERCEIVED POINT OF VIEW OF THAT PLATFORM.
LIKE I THINK THERE ARE SOME PLATFORMS THAT DEFINITELY IN OUR POLITICAL ENVIRONMENT CAN SKEW SORT OF ONE DIRECTION OR THE OTHER.
AND I KNOW IN THE SLIDES YOU TALKED ABOUT SORT OF TRYING TO MAINTAIN THAT NEUTRALITY, SO I'M SORT OF CURIOUS HOW YOU GUYS BALANCE THAT.
LIKE SOME OF THESE SOCIAL PLA MEDIA PLATFORMS ARE NOT NECESSARILY NEUTRAL AND COULD SKEW SORT OF THE INFORMATION YOU'RE TRYING TO PUT OUT THERE.
LIKE WHAT'S THE MECHANISM THAT YOU GUYS USE TO SAY, WELL, THIS ONE FEELS MORE NEUTRAL, THIS ONE FEELS MORE EDITORIAL.
YEAH, I THINK, I THINK OUR MESSAGING IS GONNA BE NEUTRAL.
I THINK WE DON'T, I WOULDN'T SAY THAT WE DON'T NECESSARILY EVALUATE THE PLATFORM.
I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE AWARENESS TO THOSE PERCEPTIONS OF WHAT THE PLATFORM IS.
BUT I THINK WE LOOK MORE TO COMMUNITY SENTIMENT ABOUT IT AND ITS REACH AND OUR MESSAGING IS FOCUSED ON GETTING A EITHER A CALL TO ACTION LIKE YOU HEARD OR GETTING OUR MESSAGING OUT TO WHATEVER THE BASE IS, AND IT'S LESS CONCERNED ABOUT THE IDEOLOGIES OR THOSE DEMOGRAPHICS.
IT'S ABOUT COMMUNITY, UH, REACH AND INFLUENCE ON THAT MESSAGING THERE.
BUT I THINK WE HAVE AWARENESS TO THOSE THINGS.
I THINK THERE'S PART OF THE TIKTOK DISCUSSION IS THE DATA AND INFORMATION AND ALL THOSE OTHER CONSIDERATIONS THAT ARE BEING DISCUSSED AT A NATIONAL LEVEL AND WE'VE BEEN HESITANT AND PATIENT TO, TO JUST QUICKLY ADAPT TO DIFFERENT PLATFORMS. AND THAT WOULD BE A CONVERSATION THAT I WOULD BE HAVING WITH OUR COMMAND STAFF AND WITH, WITH KELSEY AND WITH TINA AS WELL AS WITH THE CITY MANAGER ON IS THIS A PLATFORM THAT WE'RE COMFORTABLE MOVING TO BEFORE WE JUST ADOPT A A PLATFORM LIKE THAT.
UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH AGAIN.
IT WAS REALLY, REALLY INFORMATIVE.
UM, I'D LIKE TO NOW OPEN PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE PRESENTATION ITEM AND ASK SPEAKERS TO BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARDS TO THE CLERK'S DESK IF THEY HAVE NOT ALREADY.
CLERK, HAVE WE RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING? NO.
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OKAY.UH, THEN I'M GONNA MOVE US ON TO
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THE NEXT TOPIC.UM, I'D LIKE TO REINTRODUCE THE PEACE SAC ANNUAL REPORT COMMITTEE MEMBER INPUT PRESENTATION AND EMPHASIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF CONTINUOUS INPUT FROM THE COMMITTEE TO ENSURE THE REPORT REFLECTS THE FULL SCOPE OF P SACS WORK AND WORK PRIORITIES AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
I'D LIKE TO CALL ON COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO PROVIDE COMMENTS AND INPUT.
NOT INPUT, BUT, UM, IN THE, IN THE ANNUAL REPORT, YOU'VE LISTED ME AS THE COMMITTEE VICE CHAIR, AND I AM NOT.
SO I DID SKIM THROUGH THE, SOME OF THE REPORT SLIDES.
ARE THESE SORT OF IS THE INTENTION THAT THESE ARE QUESTIONS YOU'D LIKE THE COMMITTEE TO SORT OF ANSWER AND, AND SORT OF COME BACK TO ANOTHER SESSION SORT OF WITH LIKE, WELL, HERE'S MY ANSWER TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE, THAT ARE IN THE SLIDE DECK.
LIKE WHAT ARE, WHAT KIND OF INPUT ARE YOU HOPING TO GET FROM THE COMMITTEE? UH, BASED ON THE, BASED ON THIS SLIDE OR BASED ON THIS, UH, PRESENTATION? YEAH, SO THE, THE PRESENTATION WAS A FEW, UH, MEETINGS AGO WHERE WE WERE TRYING TO, UM, ORGANIZE HOW WE WANTED THE P SACS ANNUAL REPORT TO BE FORMED AND, AND BUILT OUT.
UH, THE REQUEST WAS THAT IF YOU HAD COMMITTEE MEMBER FEEDBACK, UH, TO BE EMAILED DIRECTLY TO ME, I WOULD COMPILE THOSE EMAILS AND THEN BRING SOMETHING BACK TO THE COMMITTEE, WHICH WOULD ULTIMATELY GO TO, TO CITY COUNCIL.
UM, I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY OF THOSE EMAILS YET.
SO THIS IS JUST A FOLLOW-UP ITEM ON, UH, GETTING THAT FEEDBACK.
IS THERE LIKE A DATE OR TIME THAT YOU'RE SORT OF LIKE, IF YOU'RE GONNA GET THESE RESPONSES BACK TO ME, WE NEED TO HAVE 'EM BY THIS DATE? SO WE, WE HAD PUSHED THE ANNUAL REPORT TO BE AT THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR.
SO I WOULD SAY, UM, BY THE DECEMBER MEETING TO HAVE COMMENTS IN SO THAT JANUARY POTENTIALLY WE COULD DISCUSS, UM, OR WE DON'T HAVE A MEETING IN IN DECEMBER BECAUSE OF THE HOLIDAYS, BUT, UM, HOPEFULLY, UM, BY THE END OF THE CALENDAR YOU'RE START GETTING THOSE COMMENTS SO THAT THE FEEDBACK CAN BE COMPILED AND THEN WE CAN DISCUSS IT AS A GROUP.
SO YOU ARE TAKING EMAILS NOW? I I, I, I GUESS, I GUESS I GOT CONFUSED THAT WE, THAT YOU HAD SAID THAT THAT FIRST MEETING AND THEN WE DECIDED NOT TO DO THAT.
BUT YOU, YOU'RE, YOU'RE OPEN TO IT ANY AT ANY TIME? YES, SIR.
YOU COULD ALSO PROVIDE FEEDBACK HERE DURING THE MEETING.
UM, SO EITHER WAY WILL WORK, UH, THAT THE EMAIL IS EASY BECAUSE I CAN TRACK AND, AND, YOU KNOW, DISSEMINATE THOSE ALL INTO THE REPORT AT ONCE.
UM, BUT IF YOU FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE SPEAKING ABOUT IT, THEN WE CAN DO THAT AS WELL.
WELL, LAST, LAST MONTH I DID MAKE COMMENTS HERE, UM, AND I DIDN'T SEE THEM INCORPORATED ANYWHERE, BUT, SO I'M THINK MAYBE I PROBABLY, I'M GONNA JUST WRITE AN EMAIL, BUT, UM, THE EMAIL TO SEND IT TO IS THE, UM, IS IS IT, UH, IN THE THING TO YEAH, IT WAS ON THE LAST PAGE OF THE SLIDE DECK.
AND THIS SLIDE DECK IS THE ORIGINAL SLIDE DECK.
SO IT HASN'T BEEN EDITED SINCE THE, THE FIRST MEETING.
UM, SO I'M GONNA MOVE US ON TO THE NEXT, UH, TOPIC, PSAC LONG RANGE CALENDAR.
I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE THE LONG RANGE CALENDAR REGARDING UPCOMING MEETING DATES AND OR POTENTIAL AGENDA ITEMS. CALL ON COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO PROVIDE COMMENTS, REPORT OUT ON EVENTS ATTENDED OR BRING FORWARD FUTURE AGENDA TOPICS.
SO REAL QUICK ON, I THINK AT LAST MONTH'S MEETING WE DISCUSSED THE AVAILABILITY OF COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO ATTEND NEXT MONTH'S MEETING.
AND I THINK BASED ON THE FEEDBACK THAT WAS PRESENTED, WE MIGHT NOT HAVE A QUORUM FOR THE AUGUST MEETING.
UM, 'CAUSE I KNOW AT LEAST THREE OF US HAD SAID THAT WE WON'T BE HERE.
UM, SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO JUST CANCEL THE AUGUST MEETING BASED ON THAT.
UM, SO, UM, THE COMMITTEE THAT, OR THE BINDING OR THE GUIDING LEGISLATION FOR THE COMMITTEE, UM, ONLY REQUIRES THAT THE MEETING THE COMMITTEE MEET EVERY BY MONTH.
SO IF THE COMMITTEE DECIDES OR ELECTS TO, TO SKIP AUGUST, THEN WE'RE WELL WITHIN THE, THE GUIDING LEGISLATION SHOULD WE PUT IT TO A VOTE? UM, CAN I CLARIFY? THEN WE WOULD MOVE THE, UM, AGENDA ITEM, TRAFFIC TRENDS AND ENFORCEMENT.
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SEPTEMBER WITH THE DRONES AND AUTOMATED LICENSE PLATE READERS.WOULD WE JUST MERGE THE TWO TOPICS? UH, I WAS THINKING WE WOULD PUSH AND THIS WOULD BE UP TO THE COMMITTEE.
UM, WE WOULD JUST MOVE THOSE DOWN ONCE.
SO THE FIRST ITEM IN JANUARY WOULD BE BODY-WORN CAMERA AND RECRUITING.
UM, SO TRAFFIC AND TRENDS WOULD BE MOVED TO SEPTEMBER AND THEN DRONES AND A LPRS WOULD BE MOVED TO OCTOBER.
THOUGHTS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS? ANYONE? UH, NOW'S THE TIME.
UH, MR. CHAIR, I'D MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CANCEL THE MEETING IN AUGUST DUE TO LACK OF QUORUM.
UH, LET'S GET A VOTE ON WHO WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF CANCELING THE AUGUST 27TH MEETING AND MEETING AGAIN SEPTEMBER 24TH.
AND THEN THAT ALSO MOVES ALL THE TOPICS.
SO I THINK THAT ALSO WHAT WE'LL DO IS, AS SUGGESTED, WE'LL ESSENTIALLY WE'LL MOVE THE TENTATIVE AGENDA ITEMS SEQUENTIALLY DOWN THE LIST.
SO WHAT WAS FOR AUGUST? WE'LL MOVE TO SEPTEMBER.
WHAT WAS FOR SEPTEMBER? WE'LL MOVE TO OCTOBER, AND SO ON AND SO ON.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER, UM, IDEAS TO BE ADDED TO THE LIST FOR THE LONG RANGE CALENDAR? ANY OTHER TOPICS OR ITEMS ANYONE NEEDED TO SHIFT? ANYTHING THAT'S COMING UP IN THE LONG RANGE CALENDAR WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING TO COME F FORWARD FASTER.
GONNA GIVE PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO VOICE THAT? NOPE.
UH, MOVING TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM,
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IPA COMMENT, UH, I'D LIKE TO CALL ON IPA TO PROVIDE COMMENTS ON THE MONTHLY STATS AND INTRODUCE IPA, DENISE LEWIS.OH, NO, IT'S JEFF THIS YEAR, THIS MONTH.
HOW IS EVERYBODY? WE'RE DOING WELL.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, WITH RESPECT TO THE STATS, UM, YOU SEE ON THE JUNE, UH, LINE THAT THERE WERE, UH, 13 INCIDENTS PENDING.
UH, FROM THE PRIOR PERIOD THERE WERE NINE NEW USES OF FORCE, AND WHEN WE SAY USES OF FORCE, THAT INCLUDES DISPLAYS OF FORCE.
UM, FOUR OF THOSE MADE THEIR WAY, UH, TO US, UH, IN THE MONTH OF JUNE.
AND WE REVIEWED A TOTAL OF SEVEN, UH, THAT WOULD BE PROBABLY THE FOUR AND, UH, THREE FROM THE PRIOR MONTH.
AND THAT THERE WERE NO RELATED, UH, ACAS, UH, ON THE USES OF, UH, FORCE ON THE PURSUITS.
UH, AGAIN, INCIDENTS PENDING FROM THE PRIOR, UH, PERIOD THREE, THERE WAS ONE NEW PURSUIT, UH, TWO PURSUITS WERE, UH, SENT TO US BY MANAGEMENT.
UM, AND WE REVIEWED, UH, THOSE TWO PURSUITS.
AGAIN, NO ACAS WITH RESPECT TO THOSE ON COMPLAINTS.
THERE WERE 12 PENDING FROM THE PRIOR PERIOD.
THERE WERE THREE NEW COMPLAINTS.
NONE OF THOSE MADE THEIR WAY TO US.
UM, ALTHOUGH WE REVIEWED TWO FROM A PRIOR PERIOD.
NO OC IS ON THOSE THAT WE REVIEWED.
UM, JUST THE OTHER IMPORTANT ITEM OF NOTE, AND I KNOW THAT THIS WILL BE DISCUSSED IN A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, DETAILED BY THE CHIEF.
UM, BUT WITH RESPECT TO THE, UH, FATAL OFFICER INVOLVED PURSUIT, UM, OF THIS PAST WEEK, WE WERE NOTIFIED TIMELY OF THAT.
UH, WE ARE FOLLOWING THE ADMINISTRATIVE INVESTIGATION AND WE WILL REPORT OUT ON THAT, UM, WITH THE COMMAND STAFF, BOTH AS IT DEVELOPS AND, UH, WHEN THEY, UH, FINALIZE THEIR INVESTIGATION.
SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
UH, CHIEF, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A GOOD TIME OR THE RIGHT TIME TO DISCUSS THE, UH, THE FATAL PURSUIT.
YEAH, NO, I, I, UH, IF THE COMMITTEE PERMITS, I THINK IT'S, IT'S ABSOLUTELY, UH, APPROPRIATE AND PROBABLY WILL ADDRESS MANY QUESTIONS.
SO, UH, IF THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS, I'LL KIND OF PROCEED INTO ONE OF ONE OF MY
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ANTICIPATED STAFF COMMENTS.UH, AND I EMAILED YOU ALL, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THAT, BUT AS JEFF MENTIONED, UH, TRAGICALLY, AND UNFORTUNATELY, OVER THE WEEKEND WE DID HAVE A VEHICLE PURSUIT.
WE HAD RECEIVED A REPORT OF A SUSPECTED DUI DRIVER FROM A REPORTING PARTY IN OUR COMMUNITY, UM, THAT HAD OBSERVED A DRIVER, UM, THAT APPEARED, APPEARED TO BE IMPAIRED.
THEY WERE HAVING DIFFICULTY MAINTAINING, UH, THE LANE OF TRAVEL.
THEY WERE OBSERVED AT A GAS STATION WHERE OUR OFFICERS WERE DISPATCHED TO THAT AREA AND LOCATED THE VEHICLE DRIVING ON LAKEVILLE HIGHWAY.
UH, THEY TRIED TO PULL OVER THE CAR, IT PROCEEDED INTO A, A VEHICLE PURSUIT.
AND, UH, DURING THE PURSUIT, THE VEHICLE CRASHED AND ROLLED OVER AND, AND THE OCCUPANTS WERE EJECTED.
UM, ALL OF THE OCCUPANTS, UM, IN, IN A SUBSEQUENT PRESS RELEASE FROM THE SANTA ROSA POLICE DEPARTMENT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED.
THEY'VE ALL BEEN DETERMINED TO BE JUVENILES, UM, FROM OUTSIDE OF OUR COMMUNITY AND FROM MARIN COUNTY AREA.
AND, UH, ONE OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS, A 14-YEAR-OLD JUVENILE, PASSED AWAY AT THE SCENE.
SO, UH, IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE WE'RE HAVE A FATAL, UH, INCIDENT THAT WAS INVOLVING OUR EMPLOYEES DURING A COURSE OF AN ENFORCEMENT ACTION OR WHERE INDIVIDUALS ARE BEING DETAINED OR UNDER ARREST, OR WE USE FORCE, WE HAVE WHAT'S CALLED THE SONOMA COUNTY OFFICER INVOLVED OR EMPLOYEE INVOLVED FATAL INCIDENT PROTOCOL.
IT'S A PROTOCOL THAT'S SIGNED ON BY ALL OF THE CHIEFS AND AGENCIES WITHIN SONOMA COUNTY.
AND BASICALLY, UH, WHAT IT DETAILS IS THAT IN THE EVENT OF THOSE TYPE OF INCIDENTS, THE AGENCY WILL REQUEST ONE OF THREE AGENCIES, PETALUMA, SANTA ROSA, SONOMA COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, AND WE WILL BE THE LEAD INVESTIGATING AGENCY FOR THAT INCIDENT THAT OCCURRED IN A DIFFERENT JURISDICTION THAN THOSE AGENCIES.
UH, THOSE INVESTIGATIONS ARE, ARE LED BY THE, THAT LEAD AGENCY ALONG WITH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, WHO ASCENDS OUT A DISTRICT ATTORNEY TO THE, THE INCIDENT THAT NIGHT WITH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY INVESTIGATOR.
UM, AND THEN THOSE INVESTIGATIONS PROCEED AND IT'S TURNED OVER.
THE, THE, UH, THE AGENCY, A VENUE, THE AGENCY WHERE THE INCIDENT OCCURRED, UM, AND OFFICERS ARE, ARE INVOLVED, UM, ISSUES AN INITIAL PRESS RELEASE.
SO WE ISSUED THAT, THAT FOLLOWING MORNING.
AND THEN SANTA ROSA PD, WHO WAS THE AGENCY THAT TOOK OVER OUR INVESTIGATION IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CALIFORNIA HIGHWAY PATROL AND THEIR MAJOR ACCIDENT INVESTIGATIONS TEAM, THE MATE TEAM, UM, WHO'S HANDLING THE COLLISION PORTION, ARE CONDUCTING THE INVESTIGATION ON BEHALF OF US.
AND THEY ISSUED A SUBSEQUENT ONE WITHIN THE FOLLOWING DAY THAT PROVIDED UPDATES, UM, AS WELL AS THE ARREST OF THE DRIVER IN THAT CASE.
UM, AND SO THAT NICKEL, UM, OR PRESS RELEASE CAME OUT FROM THEM.
I SHARED THE LINK TO YOU ALL ABOUT THAT.
IT IS A VERY MUCH SO ONGOING INVESTIGATION.
UM, WE'RE COOPERATING WITH THE SANTA ROSA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
OUR INVOLVED STAFF HAVE BEEN INTERVIEWED.
UM, WE'RE CONDUCTING, OR SANTA ROSA POLICE DEPARTMENT'S CONDUCTING ALL THE FOLLOW NECESSARY STEPS.
BUT THE JUVENILE DRIVER WAS ARRESTED FOR FELONY EVADING, FELONY, UH, VEHICULAR MANSLAUGHTER AND FELONY, UM, DUI CAUSING DEATH.
AND SO, UM, THAT CASE IS GONNA BE PROCEEDING.
AND THEN AS JEFF MENTIONED, PART OF OUR INTERNAL NOTIFICATIONS ARE IMMEDIATELY NOTIFYING THE CITY MANAGER OR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, UM, PROVIDING, UH, A BRIEF TO THEM ABOUT WHAT HAS OCCURRED AS WELL AS NOTIFYING OUR INDEPENDENT POLICE AUDITOR.
UM, AND SO THOSE NOTIFICATIONS HAVE BEEN HAPPENING.
WE ALSO PARALLEL THE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION, IS WHAT THIS IS REFERRED TO, THE PROTOCOL INVESTIGATIONS CON CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION.
UM, AND SO WE HAVE AN ADMINISTRATIVE PERSONNEL OR PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS REVIEW THAT IS HAPPENING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT POLICIES, PROCEDURES, AND ANY OTHER KIND OF MATTERS THAT ARE ADMINISTRATIVE AND FOCUSED.
UM, I'M HAPPY TO TRY TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
AT THE SAME TOKEN, I JUST WANNA REMIND YOU WHERE WE KIND OF STARTED THE PSAC AND WHY WE STARTED THERE ON, UM, PERSONNEL INVESTIGATIONS AND POLICE OFFICER BILL OF RIGHTS AND CONFIDENTIALLY.
SO THIS IS ONE OF THOSE OF THE MOST CONFIDENTIAL TYPE OF POLICE RECORDS THAT HAS THE MOST LEGISLATION ATTACHED TO IT.
AND AGAIN, IT'S AN ACTIVE AND ONGOING INVESTIGATION THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT BEING INVESTIGATED BY MY AGENCY AS THE LEAD AND WILL BE REFERRED TO THE SONOMA COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AT THE CULMINATION OF THAT INVESTIGATION.
SO, UH, THERE MAY BE THINGS I'M NOT ALLOWED TO SPEAK ON.
THERE MAY BE THINGS I CAN TALK TO YOU FROM A PROCESS OR PROCEDURAL STANDPOINT OR WHAT NEXT STEPS WILL BE INTERNALLY FOR US IN COORDINATION WITH THE IPA, UM, BUT SPECIFICS ABOUT THE INVESTIGATION, I'LL, I'LL BE REFERRING YOU BACK TO THE PRESS RELEASE ISSUED BY SANTA ROSA PD, PD UM,
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CHIEF, IS IT PROTOCOL THAT THE OFFICER THAT WAS INVOLVED IS NOW ON LEAVE OR IS IT, IS THAT JUST AUTOMATIC OR NOT REALLY? YEAH, I THINK IT, IT, A LOT OF THESE ARE CASE BY CASE SITUATIONS, BUT OUR GENERAL PRACTICES THAT WE, UH, PLACE THE OFFICER ON DAYS OFF, UM, AND WE GO THROUGH CRITICAL INCIDENT STRESS DEBRIEF, AND WE'RE NAVIGATING THOSE PROCESSES RIGHT NOW TO MAKE SURE OUR STAFF ARE, ARE DOING OKAY.UM, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE, THESE ARE OUTCOMES THAT WE DON'T WISH IN ANY CIRCUMSTANCES.
UM, AND DEFINITELY THERE'S, THEY'RE IMPACTFUL.
UM, AND SO THEY'RE UNFORTUNATE.
UM, WE'VE TRAGICALLY SEEN THINGS LIKE THIS HAPPEN.
WE'VE SEEN PEOPLE IN DUI COLLISIONS, WHETHER WE'RE INVOLVED OR NOT INVOLVED.
WE'RE RESPONDING TO THOSE, THOSE UNFORTUNATE OCCURRENCES IN THIS COMMUNITY OFTEN.
AND WE SEE THINGS THAT, THAT ARE TRAUMATIC TO OUR STAFF AND WE RECOGNIZE THAT, UH, THE OFFICER'S WELLNESS AND RESPONSE TO THOSE IS DIFFERENT.
AND SO WE HAVE, UH, SYSTEMS IN PLACE AND A PEER SUPPORT TEAM AND EAP AS WELL AS PROCESSES FOR, UM, UH, DEBRIEFING WITH THE, WITH OUR INVOLVED EMPLOYEES BEFORE THEY RETURN BACK TO WORK.
I'M CHIEF, WASN'T IT ALSO A STOLEN VEHICLE? THAT'S CORRECT.
SO THAT WAS INFORMATION THAT WE LEARNED THROUGH THE INVESTIGATION THAT'S BEEN, UH, DETERMINED AND CONFIRMED AT THIS POINT.
UM, BUT IT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT WAS KNOWN AT THE INITIAL TIME OF REPORTING.
AND I APPRECIATE THAT THE CHIEF SENDS THE COUNSEL, UH, CONFIDENTIAL, YOU KNOW, EMAIL THAT WE GET, YOU KNOW, SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND BEFORE WE READ ABOUT IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
AND ALSO, UM, THE, UM, QUESTION THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS ASKED IS, WHY WASN'T THERE A ONE OF THOSE NAIL STRIPS PUT OUT TO, UM, AVOID A COLLISION? AND I DIDN'T HAVE AN EXPLANATION.
SO MAYBE YOU CAN HELP WITH THAT PROCEDURE AND WHY, YOU KNOW, THEY DO IT IN THE TV SHOWS, WHY CAN'T THEY DO IT AT PETALUMA? BUT I HAVE NO IDEA THAT WORKS.
AND SO I, I, I CAN'T NECESSARILY COMMENT ON THIS CASE, BUT I WILL SAY FROM JUST A, A STANDPOINT OF, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS INCIDENT OCCURRED IN THE LAKEVILLE HIGHWAY CORRIDOR AND WAS GOING OUTSIDE AND THE ACTUAL COLLISION OCCURRED IN THE COUNTY JURISDICTION, WHICH IS NOT OUR AREA.
SO THINGS THAT, UH, WE ENCOUNTER AND WE OFTEN ENCOUNTER INCIDENTS THAT ARE, UH, HAPPENING ON THE FREEWAY AND GOING INTO MARIN COUNTY.
AND SO WE TRY TO, UH, DO THINGS AND USE TACTICS TO POSITION PERSONNEL AND IN FRONT OF THAT VEHICLE PURSUIT TO DEPLOY THINGS THAT ARE REFERRED TO AS PURSUIT INTERVENTION TACTICS LIKE, UH, SPIKE STRIPS.
UM, BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE PERSONNEL THAT ARE AHEAD OF THOSE.
AND SO THINGS THAT ARE GOING OUTSIDE OF OUR AREA INTO UNINCORPORATED AREAS, PRESENT CHALLENGES FOR US TO GET AHEAD OF THOSE THINGS.
OR, SO WE HAVE TO NORMALLY, YOU KNOW, REQUEST THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HELICOPTER NOTIFY THE HIGHWAY PATROL OR NOVATO PD AND HAVE THEM ONCE THAT NOTIFICATION'S MADE, UNLESS THEY'RE MONITORING OUR RADIO TRAFFIC, GET INTO THOSE POSITIONS.
AND SO SOME OF THOSE MORE RURAL, UM, AREAS WHEN WE GO OUTSIDE OF OUR CITY LIMITS INTO ANOTHER JURISDICTION ARE MORE CHALLENGING TO DO THAT.
UM, AND, BUT THOSE ARE DEFINITELY CONSIDERATIONS AND THINGS THAT WE ALWAYS LOOK TO DO WHEN IT'S APPROPRIATE.
SOME, SOME PURSUIT INTERVENTION TACTICS, DEPENDING ON SPEEDS CONDITION OF THE ROADWAY, ABILITY TO DEPLOY FROM THE SAFETY OF THE OFFICER TO THE GREATER COMMUNITY HAVE TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
SO NOT EVERY SITUATION PRESENTS ITSELF AS THE RIGHT OPPORTUNITY THAT'S APPROPRIATE AND REASONABLE TO DEPLOY SOME OF THOSE TACTICS, BUT THOSE ARE DEFINITELY THE THINGS THAT ARE CONSIDERED AN INCORPORATED IN OUR VEHICLE PURSUIT AND POLICY.
UH, I HAVE A QUESTION, BUT FIRST I JUST WANT TO, YOU KNOW, FOR ANYONE THAT IS WATCHING THIS ONLINE FAMILY OF FRIENDS, FOR ANY OF THE PEOPLE THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THIS, I JUST WANNA LEAD WITH EMPATHY AND MY CONDOLENCES.
THIS IS A TRAUMATIC EVENT FOR THE POLICE OFFICER, THE FAMILY, THE FRIENDS, EVERYONE INVOLVED.
SO, UM, I JUST WANT TO VERY MUCH SO SAY THAT OUT LOUD THAT, YOU KNOW, MY MY EMPATHY AND AND CONDOLENCES GO OUT TO EVERYONE INVOLVED.
UM, SO MORE FROM A PROCEDURAL STANDPOINT, 'CAUSE THIS HAS DEFINITELY BEEN SOMETHING IN THE SORT OF PETALUMA PARENTS OF TEEN DRIVERS HAS DEFINITELY BEEN ALL OVER.
THE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT A LOT.
UM, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, NOW THROUGH INVESTIGATION, WE, THERE'S SOME INFORMATION ABOUT WHETHER THE CAR WAS STOLEN OR NOT, BUT AT THE TIME, WHAT IS THE PROCEDURE INVOLVED IN SORT OF DECIDING TO PURSUE OR NOT TO PURSUE? RIGHT? I THINK THE QUESTION THAT I KEEP HEARING PEOPLE BRING UP IS LIKE, WELL, WHY CAN THEY JUST FOLLOW, WHY, WHY CAN'T THEY JUST GET THE, GET THE LICENSE PLATE, YOU KNOW, WHERE THIS CAR IS GONNA GO, THEY'RE EVENTUALLY GONNA BRING IT HOME.
LIKE, WHY, WHAT, WHY THE URGENCY TO SORT OF TURN THIS INTO A PURSUIT TO STOP A, A
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SUSPECTED DUI DRIVER? LIKE WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE POLICY AND PROCEDURE THAT GOES INTO DECIDING WE THINK WE CAN HANG BACK AND JUST DO A SLOW FOLLOW.WE THINK WE'VE GOT THE LICENSE PLATE, WE CAN JUST MEET THEM AT HOME, VERSUS WE THINK WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND STOP THIS CAR RIGHT AWAY.
YEAH, AND I'LL, I'LL TRY TO ANSWER THAT, UH, UH, DELICATELY, RIGHT, WITHOUT TRYING TO DABBLE TOO MUCH INTO THE, TO THE SPECIFIC CASE.
BUT OUR POLICY HAS A VARIETY OF FACTORS ON WHEN TO INITIATE, WHEN TO CONTINUE, AND WHEN TO TERMINATE A PURSUIT.
AND THEY'RE BASED ON THINGS LIKE SPEED, UH, SERIOUSNESS OF THE OFFENSE, UM, RESOURCES, TIME OF DAY, VEHICLE TRAFFIC AND CONGESTION, UM, GOING INTO SENSITIVE AREAS LIKE SCHOOL ZONES OR HIGHLY CONGESTED AREAS, UM, LIKELIHOOD, UH, TO IDENTIFY THE, THE INDIVIDUAL, UM, OR THE, THE INDIVIDUALS KNOWN, UM, THE, THE ABILITY TO APPREHEND.
AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LOOK TO WHEN WE'RE TALKING DUI, UH, INVESTIGATIONS AND VEHICLE PURSUITS INVOLVING DUIS, AND WE'VE HAD NUMEROUS AND SUBSTANTIVE CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR IPA ON JUST THIS FACTOR AND AS WELL AS RECKLESS DRIVING AND JUST, JUST FELONY EVADING.
UM, WHERE PEOPLE ARE DRIVING AWAY FROM THE POLICE OFFICERS FOR A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT, UM, TYPE OF VIOLATIONS IS, IS THOSE FACTORS AND THOSE CONSIDERATIONS.
AND SO OUR SUPERVISORS ARE TASKED WITH MONITORING THESE EVENTS AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY HAVE ACCURATE INFORMATION TO BE, UH, SUPERVISING THOSE AND, AND DICTATING WHETHER IT'S CONTINUED OR NOT CONTINUING.
UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WITH DUI DRIVERS AND, AND, UM, WHAT WAS REPORTED IN THIS CASE IS WHERE IT'S, IT WAS COMING INTO ONCOMING TRAFFIC AND IT ALMOST CAUSED COLLISIONS.
UM, AND I BELIEVE THAT THE, THE SUBSEQUENT PRESS RELEASE FROM SANTA ROSA POLICE DEPARTMENT ACTUALLY CONFIRMED THAT, UH, AT ONE POINT IT HAD SIDESWIPED ANOTHER VEHICLE.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, HAVE, UM, A RESPONSIBILITY THAT I, I DON'T THINK WE CAN, WE CAN BE FOLLOWING BEHIND A VEHICLE THAT IS GONNA POTENTIALLY CAUSE A COLLISION.
UM, OUR HOPE IN ANY CIRCUMSTANCES IS THAT PEOPLE DO WHAT THEY ARE LAWFULLY REQUIRED TO DO WHEN A POLICE OFFICER INITIATES THEIR LIGHTS AND SIRENS AND THE SOLID RED LIGHT THAT YOU ARE REQUIRED TO PULL OVER AND STOP.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY WE SEE PEOPLE DO NOT COMPLY.
UM, BUT THAT IS WHAT'S REQUIRED.
UM, AND SO I THINK WE, WE HAVE TO CONSTANTLY WEIGH AND, AND BALANCE THE, THE RISK TO THE COMMUNITY VERSUS THE SERIOUSNESS OF THE OFFENSE.
AND, UH, WE DEFINITELY HAVE A POLICY.
ONE OF THE, THE INITIAL, UM, KIND OF COMMENTARY IN THE, IN THE BEGINNING OF THE PREFACE IS TALKING ABOUT THE SANCTITY OF LIFE.
UM, WE INCORPORATE THAT IN BOTH OUR VEHICLE PURSUIT POLICY AND OUR USE OF FORCE POLICY FROM THE MINDSET THAT, UM, INHERENTLY USING FORCE AND VEHICLE PURSUITS ARE DANGEROUS, AND THAT WE WANT TO KEEP THAT IN MIND WITH ALSO MAINTAINING OUR, OUR OBLIGATIONS TO DO APPROPRIATE ENFORCEMENT.
UM, BUT WE TRY TO BALANCE THAT.
AND, AND I WOULD JUST OFFER TO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD A FEW CONVERSATIONS UP HERE IN THIS DIOCESE ABOUT THE COMPLEXITIES OF BEING A POLICE OFFICER.
AND I WOULD SAY THAT THESE, THESE INCIDENTS OCCUR QUICKLY AND EVOLVE REALLY DYNAMICALLY, AND OUR STAFF ARE TASKED WITH MAKING REALLY CHALLENGING DECISIONS WITH OFTEN LIMITED OR LITTLE INFORMATION.
AND WHAT WE TALK ABOUT INSIDE THE BUILDING IS DOING THE RIGHT THINGS BECAUSE IT'S REASONABLE, IT'S APPROPRIATE AND IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
UM, AND SO I KNOW THAT, THAT, UM, OUR STAFF ARE ALWAYS, EVER MINDFUL OF, UM, PROTECTING THE VULNERABLE FROM HARM AND ALSO, UH, TRYING TO DO THEIR JOB AND BE EFFECTIVE IN POLICING, BUT APPROACHING IT THROUGH EMPATHY AND RECOGNITION THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO KEEP THE COMMUNITY SAFE.
SO I'LL LEAVE IT THERE AND, AND TURN IT OVER IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR IF JEFF, IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADD SOME OF, SOME OF MAYBE THE THINGS THAT YOU LOOK FOR IN THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE HAD, KIND OF SPECIFIC TO THE VEHICLE PURSUIT POLICY AS WELL.
YEAH, THIS IS A HOT TOPIC, UH, IN CRIMINAL JUSTICE NATIONWIDE.
UM, AND THERE ARE DIFFERENT VIEWS ON THIS.
UM, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THOSE DIFFERENT VIEWS.
IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO WHAT OFFENSES SHOULD, UH, SHOULD GIVE RISE TO A PURSUIT.
UH, THERE WAS A, UM, AN AMENDMENT TO THE PURSUIT POLICY, WHICH, UH, BROADENED THE CATEGORIES OF, UH, OFFENSES THAT, UH, COULD BE
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PURSUED UNDER POLICY.UM, AND I'M SURE AS A RESULT OF THIS INCIDENT, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THAT POLICY AGAIN, UM, AND MAKING A DETERMINATION, UH, FROM THE IPA'S PERSPECTIVE AS TO WHETHER OR NOT ANY MODIFICATION SHOULD BE MADE.
AND, UH, IF WE BELIEVE THAT IT SHOULD, WE'LL MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION, UH, TO THE DEPARTMENT.
BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE, UM, WE'RE WAITING FOR THE RESULTS OF THE INVESTIGATION IN A CRITICAL INCIDENT SUCH AS THIS.
WE KEEP OUR FINGER ON THE PULSE OF THE INVESTIGATION AS IT IS, UH, PROCEEDING.
UH, SO WE'LL BE TALKING OFTEN, UH, WITH THE DEPARTMENT, UH, RELATIVE TO THAT ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEEDING THAT THAT'S ONGOING.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANYONE ON THE COMMITTEE? OKAY, SORRY ABOUT THAT.
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WAS STAFF COMMENT, CHIEF MILLER AND STAFF FOR ANY STAFF COMMENTS.AND THEN WE JUST COVERED, UH, WHAT WAS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST PART OF OUR STAFF COMMENT, BUT I AT LEAST WANNA GIVE YOU GUYS THE OPPORTUNITY IF THERE WERE ANY OTHER, UH, STAFF COMMENTS YOU WANTED TO MAKE.
YOU KIND OF WANNA SHIFT, UH, SHIFT TO DIFFERENT TOPICS THAN THAT, BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO, TO PROVIDE SOME UPDATES.
AND I WOULD ANTICIPATE AT THE NEXT MEETING WE'LL ALL HAVE A, A MORE SUBSTANTIVE UPDATE ON THE STATUS OF THE INVESTIGATION THAT I'LL REPORT OUT OR JEFF CAN REPORT OUT IN THE IPA COMMENTS.
BUT, UM, WE DID HAVE TWO OTHER NOTABLE EVENTS THAT WE'RE QUICKLY APPROACHING HERE IN AUGUST.
UM, THE FIRST ONE WILL BE ON AUGUST 4TH, WHICH WILL ACTUALLY BE THE PRESENTATION TO CITY COUNCIL FOR OUR MILITARY EQUIPMENT THAT YOU PREVIOUSLY HEARD AND PROVIDED FEEDBACK ON.
ADDITIONALLY, ON THAT NIGHT, YOU MAY HAVE SEEN, UM, SOME COMMUNICATIONS COMING OUT FROM THE CITY COMMUNICATIONS TEAM ABOUT THE, UH, A JOINT PRESENTATION TO CITY COUNCIL AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON THE PROPOSAL FOR A NEW, UH, JOINT PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY AND BY JOINT PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY THAT WOULD ENTAIL A NEW POLICE DEPARTMENT, EOC AND AN ADDITIONAL FIRE STATION, UH, OR A FOURTH FIRE STATION THAT IN ONE JOINT FACILITY THAT'S BEING LOOKED AT, AT POTENTIALLY A CENTRALLY LOCATED, UH, SPOT, WHICH IS ON THE FAIRGROUNDS PARCEL, WHICH IS, IS IDENTIFIED IN THAT KIND OF PARKING LOT AREA, OVERFLOW PARKING ON JOHNSON AND KENWORTH DRIVE, RIGHT AT THAT FOUR-WAY INTERSECTION THERE.
SO THIS IS A, A, UM, AN AN UPDATE AND A STATUS AND A PLANNING COUNCIL CONVERSATION WORKSHOP.
UM, BUT WE, IN 2023 PRESENTED PREVIOUSLY TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON A, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLANNING PROCESS WHERE WE WERE EXPLORING INITIAL, UM, RESEARCH ON THIS TOPIC, UM, LOOKING AT WHAT THAT TYPE OF PROJECT WOULD ENTAIL, POTENTIAL LOCATIONS, CONSIDERATIONS, ADVANTAGES OF JOINT FACILITY AND DISADVANTAGES.
AND NOW THIS IS THE RETURN OF A PROCESS, UM, SEEKING, SEEKING, UM, I WOULD THINK SOME, SOME DIRECTION POTENTIALLY FROM, FROM BOTH OF THOSE, THE COMMITTEE AND THE COUNCIL.
SO, UH, VERY POTENTIALLY EXCITING TIMES.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN, UH, PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED, AT LEAST AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT INCREASING FACILITY SPACE AND MODERNIZING, UM, THE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE IT WAS OUTGROWN APPARENTLY WHEN WE MOVED INTO THE LOCATION IN 1989 WITH, UH, IT BEING ENVISIONED THAT THERE WOULD POTENTIALLY BE A, A ANOTHER SECOND POLICE DEPARTMENT BUILDING RIGHT NEXT DOOR.
IT WHAT'S NOW THE BUCKALEW APARTMENTS.
UM, AND THEN WHEN I STARTED IN THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS, THERE WAS A POTENTIAL FOR A REMODEL PROJECT AND A SECOND STORY BEING ADDED.
AND SO IN 2025 WE'RE IN THE, THE SAME SPACE WE WERE IN 1989.
AND, AND IT'S, UM, IF YOU'VE BEEN IN OUR BUILDING, THERE'S, THERE'S SOME SERIOUS AREAS THAT NEED SOME IMPROVEMENT, SOME MODERNIZATION.
WE HAVE SOME CHALLENGES WITH A DA AND, UM, JUST CHALLENGES WITH EVEN THE, THE CONDITIONS IN HER MEN AND WOMEN'S LOCKER ROOMS THAT ARE JUST NOT SUITABLE FOR, FOR THIS TIME.
AND SO, UM, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO AT LEAST HAVE THAT PUBLIC CONVERSATION AND, UH, GET SOME INPUT ON KIND OF THE STATUS OF THE PROJECT.
AND SO AGAIN, THAT'S AUGUST, UM, FOURTH, AND THAT WORKSHOP IS GONNA BE HAPPENING BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING AT 5:00 PM SO THEY'RE HAVING TO START EARLY BECAUSE IT'S A PRETTY, PRETTY LOADED AGENDA THAT NIGHT.
AND THEN LAST, UM, LAST UPDATE I HAD, UNLESS MY STAFF HAS SOMETHING ELSE TO ADD AFTER ME, BUT PETALUMA NIGHT OUT IS ON AUGUST 5TH
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FROM FOUR TO 7:00 PM AT, UH, THE PETALUMA FAIR GROUND.SO WE HOPE THAT YOU ALL CAN JOIN IT.
WE'D LOVE FOR YOU TO BE ENGAGING AND TALKING TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS ABOUT YOUR ROLE.
UM, AND JUST REMEMBER THAT CCB COM COMMITTEES, COMMITTEES AND AWARDS RECRUITMENTS WILL BE QUICKLY APPROACHING.
AND SO THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES TO START PLANTING THE SEED WITH OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT MAY BE ABLE TO CARRY THIS TORCH ON BEYOND YOU.
ANY OF YOU, IF THERE'S VACANCIES THAT COME UP.
AND THEN NICK OR GARRETT, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? THANK YOU.
THANK YOU MUCH CHIEF AND STAFF REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
AND ON THAT, UH, UNLESS THERE ARE ANY OTHER TOPICS OR ANYTHING ELSE SOMEONE ELSE WANTS TO BRING UP WITH THAT, WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 7 9 18 7 18:00 PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH EVERYONE.