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GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE
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CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION TODAY.NOW IS TIME FOR A GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
WE CAN JUST NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT NO MEMBERS OF THE PRESIDENT ARE, NO, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE PRESENT.
AND WE DID HAVE ONE, UH, COMMENT PRIOR TO THE MEETING ABOUT BIKE LANES AND CONNECTING THEM.
AND I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE 'CAUSE I USED TO LIVE IN THAT AREA AND IT SEEMED SILLY NOT TO HAVE THOSE.
UM, ALL RIGHT, THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO CLOSE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
DO WE HAVE ANY PRESENTATIONS? NO PRESENTATIONS TODAY.
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THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING FROM JULY 10TH, 2025.UM, ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE MINUTES? GREAT.
THEN THOSE ARE APPROVED WITH NO CHANGES SCREAMING THROUGH OUR AGENDA.
UM, THE NEXT ITEM IS PUBLIC HEARINGS
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AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION.UM, TONIGHT WE ARE GOING TO REVIEW THE AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS AND CONSIDER THE FUTURE STRUCTURE, UM, AND ACTIVITIES OF AD HOCS.
UM, SO I THINK, DOES STAFF GO FIRST? YES.
STAFF, UH, HAS A PRESENTATION FOR US.
WE CAN SUMMARIZE THE ITEM VERY BRIEFLY.
DEB, DID YOU WANT TO DO THAT SINCE YOU WERE THE AUTHOR OF THIS
SO, UM, THE FIRST ITEM TO DO IS JUST HAVE YOU ALL REVIEW THE REPORT THAT WA EACH OF YOU SUBMITTED, UH, AND GIVE FEEDBACK ON IT IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT YOU WANNA ADD.
'CAUSE THAT IS WHAT WE WILL EVENTUALLY, UH, FORWARD ON TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
UM, AND THEN, UH, THE SECOND PART OF IT IS I JUST KIND OF REVIEWED A HISTORY OF HOW THESE CA HOW THESE, UM, AD HOCS WERE ORIGINALLY, UH, DESIGNED TO BE, UH, CONVENED.
AND SO TODAY IS REALLY LOOKING AT THAT CONTEXT OF WHERE WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE THE LAST SIX MONTHS, WHAT, UH, WHAT YOU THINK SHOULD HAPPEN NEXT, UH, WITH THE AD HOCS, UH, WHETHER TO CONTINUE THEM AND IF SO, AND WHAT STRUCTURE.
UM, AND, UH, I THINK, AND THEN WHETHER HOW YOU WANNA HOST THEM, IF YOU DO CONTINUE WHETHER THE STRUCTURE THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IN HERE, IN THE MEETINGS, UH, BY HAVING A RECESS AND, YOU KNOW, GOING OUT TO YOUR AD HOCS AND RECONVENING OR DOING THEM OUTSIDE, UH, OF THE MEETINGS AS OTHER AD HOCS SOMETIMES DO.
SO THAT PRETTY MUCH COVERS IT.
WAS EVERYBODY ABLE TO REVIEW THE SUMMARIES, THE AD HOC SUMMARIES? DO WE NEED IT? OKAY.
UM, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS JUST OFF OFF THE BAT? I WILL, I'LL START BY SAYING THAT, UM, I REALLY ENJOYED READING WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE WAS UP TO, EVEN THOUGH WE WERE GETTING THE SORT OF MONTHLY REPORT OUTS FROM, FROM, UM, EVERYONE, IT WAS NICE TO SEE SORT OF THE SUMMARY OF THE ENTIRE SIX MONTHS.
AND IT SEEMED LIKE WE DID KIND OF A LOT IN THAT TIME.
LIKE MORE THAN I HAD REALLY UNDERSTOOD.
UM, AND SO TO ME IT WAS ENCOURAGING THAT WE SHOULD KEEP DOING AD HOC WORK.
I'LL SECOND THAT, ALL OF THAT.
I AM OPEN TO WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD BE USING, UM, THIS CLIMATE ACTION MEETING TIME OR NOT.
LIKE IF WE LIKED THAT, IF WE THOUGHT THAT WAS SUCCESSFUL OR NOT.
UM, I, I'M OPEN TO PEOPLE'S OPINIONS ON THAT.
I THINK, UM, IT WOULD BE MORE EFFECTIVE IF WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE PARTICIPATING SO THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE, MAYBE THE ASPIRATIONAL GOAL WAS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO COME AND MEET AT THIS DESIGNATED TIME AND WORK THROUGH THAT.
UH, I THINK THAT WAS SUCCESSFUL
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IN THE FOCUSED AD HOC.UH, I THINK THERE WAS SORT OF MIXED SUCCESS IN SOME OF THE UTTER AD HOCS AND, YOU KNOW, TO ME, I THINK A CONCERTED EFFORT TO GET MORE ENGAGEMENT PRIOR TO RESTARTING THAT ACTIVITY, UH, WOULD BE MY, UM, PREFERENCE.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THAT MEANS AD HOCS DON'T MEET DURING THIS TIME, AT LEAST INITIALLY, SUCH THAT THERE IS SOME MOMENTUM SUCH THAT THEN IN THE FUTURE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC COULD BE INVITED TO PARTICIPATE.
UM, I JUST, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THE WAY WE WERE ABLE TO ENGAGE PEOPLE WAS ABLE TO GET PEOPLE TO COME AND PARTICIPATE IN THE WAY THAT MAYBE WE HAD HOPED, UH, WOULD HAPPEN.
UM, I THINK THOSE ARE GOOD, ARE GOOD OBSERVATIONS, BEN.
AND I THINK THE CONNECTION YOU MADE BETWEEN SORT OF HOW CONCRETE THE UNDERTAKING OF THE, THE AD HOC WAS AND THE AMOUNT OF PARTICIPATION IS A KEY THING.
AND I KNOW THAT I MISSED LAST MEETING, BUT TWO MEETINGS AGO WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE AD HOCS, ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT WAS HAVING LIKE A MORE FOCUSED, LIKE, HERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE THINK WE CAN MAKE MORE FORWARD MOTION ON IN THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, X NUMBER OF MONTHS WOULD REALLY FOSTER THAT.
YOU KNOW, I THINK THE FACT THAT YOU GUYS WERE VERY SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING PEOPLE ENGAGED IN THE, UM, FOOD WARE ORDINANCE DEVELOPMENT.
IT WAS, IT WAS ONE THING AND IT HAD A SPECIFIC KIND OF FRAMEWORK ATTACHED TO IT.
SO I THINK BEN'S RIGHT, THAT IF, UH, WE WERE TO SPEND A MEETING OR TWO FIGURING OUT WHAT THOSE NEXT PROJECTS WERE AND WHO MIGHT BE THE FOLKS WHO WOULD BE MOST LIKELY TO BE INTERESTED AND HAVE SOME PARTICULAR INSIGHTS TO BEAR, PROBABLY WOULD LEAD TO MORE OF THAT KIND OF ENGAGEMENT.
AND I DO AGREE THAT IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE REAL SPECIFIC, UH, DELIVERABLES FOR IF WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE AD HOCS.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE AN IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, CLARIFICATION ON WHAT WE'RE DOING.
THE OTHER THING THAT I GOT SOME CLARIFICATION ON IS AS AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE, ADVISORY COMMISSION, UM, THOSE DELIVERABLES REALLY SHOULD BE SOME KIND OF, YOU KNOW, LIKE THIS, LIKE WHAT WE DID WHERE WE SAID, THIS IS WHAT WE DID, THIS IS WHAT WE FOUND, THIS IS WHAT WE RECOMMEND.
I THINK THAT'S REALLY VALUABLE.
AND THEN OF COURSE, COUNCIL CAN POINT TO IT WHEN, YOU KNOW, IF THE PUBLIC GETS MAD AT WHATEVER THEY'RE DOING, THEY CAN SAY, WELL, WE DID THIS STUDY, THE COMMISSION IS YOUR COMMISSION.
LIKE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, HERE FOR THE PUBLIC.
RIGHT? SO, UM, I JUST, FOR ME, IT HELPS TO DEFINE THE ROLE AS AN ADVISORY ROLE WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE ARE THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS AND WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, OKAY, FROM, FROM ALL OF THESE PEOPLE AND THE COMMUNITY, PEOPLE WHO ARE TAKING PART IN THE AD HOC, LIKE, THIS IS WHAT WE FOUND.
NOT, NOT TO PILE ON TOO MUCH, BUT, UH, TOTALLY AGREED AD HOC SHOULD ONLY BE WORKING ON THINGS THAT ARE ACTIONABLE, UH, WITHIN A REASONABLE TIMEFRAME.
SO SOMETHING LIKE SIX MONTHS TILL, YOU KNOW, AND IT JUST NOT EVERY ACTION IDENTIFIED IN THE BLUEPRINT IS SOMETHING WE CAN REASONABLY TAKE ACTION ON EITHER THIS BODY OURSELVES AND WE SHOULD RECOGNIZE THE LIMITATIONS.
SO IT MIGHT BE JUST A FEW ITEMS ON A FEW, YOU KNOW, UM, AND JUST A FEW OF US WORKING ON THEM.
IT MAY NOT BE THE WHOLE COMMISSION AND, BUT UH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAN KIND OF RUN PARALLEL TO OTHER WORK THAT WE DO, UH, THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
AND UM, I, UM, TO COMMISSIONER MUNSTER'S POINT, UH, WE COULD SORT OF THROW OUT IDEAS ABOUT WHAT WE WANT THE AD HOCS TO BE.
AND IT, ONE THING THAT, UM, I WAS TALKING TO DEB EARLIER ABOUT IS, UM, SOMETHING THAT, UM, COMMISSIONER PETERS WAS TALKING ABOUT, UM, UH, LIKE A FEW TIMES THAT AS THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE VALUABLE FOR US TO START GOING TO OTHER COMMISSIONS AND, AND COMMITTEES AND BOARDS IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE ARE FACILITATING AND LIKE, YOU KNOW, HELPING TO MAKE THOSE CONNECTIONS BETWEEN WHAT THE STUFF THAT'S HAPPENING.
UM, AND SO THAT COULD BE A THING WHERE IF A PERSON DIDN'T WANNA BE ON AN AD HOC, THEY COULD SORT OF CHOOSE, YOU KNOW, ONE OR TWO OF THOSE OTHER COMMISSIONS, COMMITTEES AND BOARDS.
I MEAN, I THINK WE SHOULD ALL BE DOING IT ANYWAYS.
LIKE I'M GONNA
UM, SO I KNOW ONE, UM, I'VE TALKED TO, UM, ABOUT
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AN THE EV CHARGER, UM, BEING AN AD HOC THE EV CHARGER, LIKE MOMENTUM FOR THE CITY.UM, ANOTHER AD HOC THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS, UM, LIKE THE CARBON GAR CARBON GARDENING THAT, THAT COULD USE SUPPORT MY, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING.
AND THEN I THINK, UM, THE OTHER THING THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT IS LIKE, WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE THESE PEOPLE PASSIONATE ABOUT THAT YOU WANNA TAKE ON? I GUESS I'LL JUST ADD MAYBE ANOTHER LIKE PRO PROCESS IDEA.
UM, ONE THING THAT WE DIDN'T QUITE DO, WHICH MAYBE WE SHOULD CONSIDER IS THE IDEA OF THEN IZING PARTICULAR AD HOCS AS NEW BUSINESS OR REGULAR BUSINESS.
UM, THE FACT THAT THE MEETINGS WERE JUST TO HAVE AD HOCS AND THEN THE CONVERSATION TOOK PLACE THERE AND THEN THERE WAS REPORT OUTS IS DIFFERENT THAN THE IDEA OF LIKE, THIS AD HOC IS GOING TO MEET AND THEN THERE'S GOING TO BE A NEW BUSINESS ITEM ON THAT TOPIC.
IT PUTS SOME LITTLE MORE FORMALITY TO IT AND A LITTLE MORE IMPORTANCE AND PERHAPS GETS MORE AUDIENCE MEMBERS.
BUT TO ME THE IDEA OF LIKE AD HOCS CONTINUALLY MEETING AND REPORTING OUT IS, UH, DIFFERENT THAN LIKE AN AD HOC IS GOING TO MEET AND THEN AGENDAS NEW BUSINESS WHERE, UM, DISCUSSION AND POTENTIALLY ACTIONS TAKE PLACE.
SO THAT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE IS, UM, FOR AT LEAST SOME OF THE NEXT AD HOCS WITH THE IDEA THAT THERE WILL BE NEW BUSINESS THAT THEY WILL BRING FORWARD, UM, MUCH SHORTER THAN SIX MONTHS, UH, TIMELINE.
I MEAN THAT SEEMS REASONABLE TO ME.
IS THERE ANY REASON WE COULDN'T DO THAT? I DON'T SEE A REASON THAT WE COULDN'T DO THAT.
IT JUST MEANS COORDINATION, JUST LETTING US KNOW IN ADVANCE, UM, WHEN WE'RE SAYING THE AGENDA SO THAT WE'RE PUTTING THE RIGHT STUFF ON IT AND IT'S DESCRIPTIVE ENOUGH TO LIKE, SOMEBODY WOULD BE ABLE TO READ IT AND SAY, OH, I SEE THAT I REALLY WANNA GO TO THAT MEETING NOW TWO WEEKS IN ADVANCE.
IS THAT WHAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
I MEAN GENERALLY WE'RE PUTTING THE AGENDA OUT A WEEK BEFORE, SO TWO WEEKS WOULD GIVE US A WHOLE NOTHER WEEK TO KIND OF MAKE SURE WE GET IT REFINED.
UM, YES, I HAVE A LITTLE BIT TO ADD.
UM, IN PAST YEARS WE'VE MADE AN EFFORT AT THE END OF THE YEAR TO PRIORITIZE, UM, THINGS ON THE CLIMATE END THAT WE WANNA PUT IN FRONT OF COUNCIL SO THAT IT BECOMES PART OF THEIR PRIORITIES.
UM, SO I THINK DEVELOPING, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT'S A EVERY THREE MONTHS CALENDAR OR EVERY SIX MONTHS CALENDAR WHERE WE MAKE A REPORT OUT TO COUNCIL.
SO ALL OF THESE DOCUMENTS THAT WE CREATED GO INTO A STAFF REPORT THAT GOES TO COUNCIL, LIKE KIND OF FYI, THIS IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON.
THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO FOLLOW ALONG WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING.
IT SHOWS UP IN THE PUBLIC RECORD ON THE COUNCIL AGENDA.
AND THEN WHEN WE COME TO THE END OF THE YEAR, THEN WE MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS.
LIKE, WE'D LIKE TO SEE THE CITY INVEST SOME MONEY IN DEVELOPING, YOU KNOW, GRANT READY PROJECTS FOR PUBLIC EV CHARGERS.
SO THEREFORE YOU GOTTA PUT ASIDE $200,000 TO DO THE PRELIMINARY PLANNING.
SO YOU'RE GRANT READY FOR EV CHARGERS, THAT KIND OF THING.
YOU KNOW, AND I THINK WE COULD HAVE VERY SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS BY THE END OF THE YEAR AND WHEN IT GETS DONE BY THE END OF THE YEAR, THEN COUNCIL COMES OUT WITH THEIR PRIORITIES IN LIKE JANUARY AND THEN THEY START WORKING ON THE BUDGET IN MARCH.
AND SO YOU GOTTA GET AHEAD OF THAT WHOLE TRAIN AND GET THOSE PRIORITIES OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, JANUARY.
SO I THINK IF WE HAD A REGULAR WORK SCHEDULE THAT SAID WE'RE GONNA REPORT OUT TWICE A YEAR, THAT WOULD GIVE US SOME RIGOR.
'CAUSE I THINK THIS IS A NICE BODY OF WORK AND THERE'S CERTAINLY PARTS OF IT THAT COULD BE CARRIED DOWNFIELD A LOT FURTHER.
YOU KNOW, LIKE WE JUST GOT STARTED ON A FEW THINGS.
UM, SO, SO ANYWAY, I THINK THEN, THEN IT ALSO CREATES PLACES THAT OTHER PEOPLE CAN PICK UP ON.
LIKE WE GOT SO FAR WITH THE PARKING MANAGEMENT POLICY, YOU KNOW, AND THERE'S SOME THINGS HERE IT'S NOT DONE.
BUT THEN SOME FUTURE AD HOC COULD PICK IT UP AND THERE'D BE A RECORD OF IT RATHER THAN JUST LOST.
AND I, UNDER MY UNDERSTANDING IS, UH, THE COUNCIL SETS THEIR PRIORITIES IN MARCH.
IS THAT ABOUT RIGHT? IS THAT RIGHT? MARCH KIND ZONE? WE GENERALLY TAKE UP THE GOALS AND PRIORITIES.
UM, SOMETIMES IT'S THE EARLIEST FEBRUARY.
I THINK WE HAVE TO BE DONE BY DECEMBER OR JANUARY.
'CAUSE YOU GOTTA GET IN FRONT OF, RIGHT, THE PRIORITIES ALREADY GET SET AND THEN YOU'RE BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL THE WHOLE REST OF THE YEAR.
'CAUSE EVERYONE SAYS, NO, WE DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY FOR THAT.
WE ALREADY MADE OUR PRIORITIES, ALREADY DID OUR BUDGETING.
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TALKING ABOUT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM PROJECTS, THEN THAT'S ADOPTED CONCURRENT WITH THE BUDGET.BUT AGAIN, THOSE DECISIONS GET MADE AND, AND THE WORK BEHIND IT, UM, THAT USUALLY GETS PRESENTED IN IN THE SPRING.
WELL SO THEN, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO FOLLOW ALONG IF THERE'S SOME KIND OF NARRATIVE, YOU KNOW, LIKE THIS YEAR WE'RE WORKING ON THESE THREE TOPICS AND OR YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT HAS SOME KIND OF NARRATIVE FLOW AND INTENTION AROUND IT.
SO SOME KIND OF WORK PLANNING THAT GETS DONE BETWEEN THE VICE CHAIR AND THE CHAIR AND THE STAFF AT THE BEGINNING OF EVERY NEW CYCLE.
SAY, YOU KNOW, WE PEOPLE COME ON BOARD IN JULY, SO SIT DOWN IN AUGUST AND COME UP WITH SOME DRAFT WORK PLAN IDEAS AND THOUGHTS ABOUT AD HOCS AND BRING IT OUT TO THE REST OF THE COMMISSION FOR DISCUSSION AND DEVELOPMENT.
AND THEN IF WE JUST DID THAT EVERY YEAR, I THINK WE'D, YOU KNOW, JUST HAVE GOOD FLOW.
I'LL JUST SAY I 1000% SUPPORT THAT IDEA OF GETTING AHEAD OF THE GOALS AND BUDGET PROCESS.
AND, YOU KNOW, I PERSONALLY HAVE ALWAYS SUGGESTED IT HAPPEN AND IT DIDN'T QUITE HA HAS HAPPENED IN THAT WAY.
AND UM, YOU KNOW, SO HAVING A NOVEMBER DECEMBER TIMELINE FOR THAT IS SOMETHING I AM, UH, TOTALLY ON BOARD WITH.
UM, PIVOTING TO ANOTHER TOPIC, UH, JUST IN TERMS OF WHAT PROJECTS MIGHT THE COMMISSION UNDERTAKE IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS? UH, I THINK ONE OF THE ONES THAT STRUCK ME AS I WAS REVIEWING ALL OF THE AD HOC REPORTS, UM, ONE OF THE ONES THAT WE HAD BEGUN WORKING ON IN BUILDING AN ENERGY WAS LIKE THIS.
THIS IDEA OF LOOKING AT WHO ARE THE LARGE USERS AND THEN BEGINNING A DIALOGUE WITH THEM.
AND THEN IN TALKING TO, UM, DEB AND SONOMA CLEAN POWER FOLKS, THAT IDEA WAS ENLARGED TO MORE OF AN IDEA OF, YEAH, WELL WE DON'T WANNA JUST TALK TO THEM ABOUT ADOPTING, UH, CINEMA, CLEAN POWER'S EVERGREEN PROGRAM.
REALLY THERE ARE MANY ASPECTS OF CLIMATE ACTION WE WOULD LOVE TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT.
AND SO I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO SEE GO FORWARD.
MY ONLY REAL QUESTION IS SORT OF WHERE'S THE BOUNDARY BETWEEN WHAT COMMISSIONERS CAN EFFECTIVELY DO AS OPPOSED TO CITY STAFF? UM, DEB, YOU'VE MENTIONED THAT FOLKS IN ECONOMIC ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THANK YOU.
I THINKING ALONG SIMILAR LINES AND YOU KNOW, WHAT'S A REALISTIC COLLABORATION THERE, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THOUGHTS I HAD IS LIKE, COULD AN AD HOC SOME MEMBERS OF COMMISSION ACT AS CLIMATE AMBASSADORS TO SOME OF THESE LARGER FIRMS AND GET IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM OR SUPPORT STAFF IN DOING THAT? UM, IN AS MUCH AS THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOLKS MAY NOT BE, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED PERCENT WELL VERSED IN CLIMATE ISSUES, THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE OUR JOB.
UM, OKAY, SO I'M JUST GONNA RECAP WHAT I'M HEARING.
UM, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S SOMEWHAT OF A CONSENSUS ON CONTINUING AD HOC WORK WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IT SHOULD BE LIKE SMART GOALS, SO TIME ORIENTED, UM, SPECIFIC, ACHIEVABLE, MEASURABLE, UM, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE MAYBE NOT DOING THE AD HOC WORK IN THIS MEETING, BUT RATHER OUT OF THE MEETING AND THEN BRINGING IT AS, UM, BUSINESS TO THE MEETING FOR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, SOME KIND OF ACTIONABLE DISCUSSION THAT'S RELEVANT.
UM, AND THEN HAVING LIKE A CADENCE OF ABOUT EVERY SIX MONTHS, LIKE ONCE IN DECEMBER, JANUARY, WHERE WE MAKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL SO THAT WE CAN GET AHEAD OF THEIR GOALS AND PRIORITIES, UM, IN FEBRUARY, MARCH.
AND THEN ANOTHER ONE RIGHT ABOUT NOW, WHICH IS PERFECT TIMING BECAUSE WE HAVE THIS ONE THAT WE JUST WRAPPED UP THIS CLIENT, THIS AD HOC KIND OF, UM, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU WANNA CALL THAT SERIES
UM, DOES THAT SOUND RIGHT? DID I, DID I GET IT? I WOULD OFFER A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THAT.
I DON'T THINK WE ALL SAID WE DIDN'T WANT AD HOC WORK TO HAPPEN.
I THINK IT WAS MORE THAT IF THERE'S GONNA AD HOC WORK HAPPEN IN THE MEETING, IT SHOULD BE FOCUSED AROUND THESE
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SPECIFIC, AS YOU PUT IT, SMART GOALS.UM, SOMETHING THAT MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MIGHT BE ABLE TO MORE READILY ENGAGE WITH AS THEY DID WITH THE FOOD WEAR ORDINANCE.
I PERSONALLY LIKE DOING THAT IN THE MEETINGS.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO DO IT EVERY MEETING.
YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT WAS TOO MUCH TO DO AT EVERY MEETING.
UM, BUT I, I LIKED IT AND I FELT LIKE IT GAVE PEOPLE VERY CONCRETE OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW UP AND PARTICIPATE, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THAT I THINK IT MADE USE OF OUR TIME HERE WHEN WE'RE ALL TOGETHER IN A, UM, MORE COLLABORATIVE WAY, WHICH IS HARD TO DO ON THE DAIS, YOU KNOW? SO I ACTUALLY PERSONALLY LIKED IT.
AND ANY OTHER INPUT ON THAT? I, I ALSO LIKED IT AS WELL 'CAUSE I FELT LIKE EVERYBODY COULD SHARE REALLY EASILY AND THERE WAS A SENSE OF LIKE PURPOSE BECAUSE WE'RE ALL LIKE HERE ANYWAYS.
BUT I ALSO THINK THAT IF WE DO IT EVERY TIME MAYBE DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
ON THE, UH, TOPIC OF NEW AD HOCS, I GUESS I WOULD SAY IT WOULD BE INFORMATIVE AT LEAST FOR ME TO HAVE, UH, A REVIEW OF THE BLUEPRINT AND IN PARTICULAR THE 2025 YEAR ACTIONS.
AND SO IF THERE ARE 20, 25 YEAR ACTIONS THAT WE WANT TO WORK ON, THEN THAT WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE USE OF AD HOC OR AD HOCS.
AND SO I'M, I HAVE A COUPLE OF THOSE RUMBLING AROUND IN MY MIND, BUT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO GET SORT OF MORE FORMAL PRESENTATION ON THAT.
AND THOSE TIME LIMITED ONES, DO YOU THINK, UM, WOULD IT BE SUFFICIENT FOR US TO JUST HAVE THE HOMEWORK TO REVIEW IT? OR DO YOU THINK WE NEED TO DO IT AS A PRESENTATION? I THINK A PRESENTATION, YEAH.
I MEAN SOME OF THE, SOME OF THOSE WORKS WERE SORT OF CITY LED INTERNAL THINGS.
LIKE YOU WANNA REPORT OUT ON WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE OR WHAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DONE.
AND IT'S LIKE, OH, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, NOW WE KNOW THE, LIKE GREEN TEAM FOR THE, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS THE WHOLE, THERE'S A WHOLE CHAPTER ON THE CITY ORGANIZATIONAL PART.
YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M NOT SURE WHAT HAS BEEN DONE THERE, YOU KNOW, BUT LIKE ONE CAN IMAGINE, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S, UH, FEASIBLE.
UM, AND SO KNOWING THE REALITY OF SOME OF THAT WOULD INFORM LIKE WHAT AD HOC CAN ACTUALLY ACHIEVE, YOU KNOW MM-HMM
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANNA GET AHEAD OF WHAT IS THE CITY'S ABLE TO ACHIEVE.
UH, AND I THINK A PRESENTATION WOULD BE MORE INFORMATIVE THAN JUST A HOMEWORK ITEM.
DOES THAT SEEM MANAGEABLE? I JUST KNOW LIKE, HERE'S, I'LL JUST SAY MY THOUGHTS.
THE REASON I'M ASKING IS, 'CAUSE I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE SUPER BUSY TRYING TO IMPLEMENT THINGS AND SO I, I WORRY ABOUT PUTTING ANOTHER PROJECT ON YOUR PLATE.
I MEAN, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO GET UPDATES, BUT I ALSO KNOW STAFF.
I'LL LET YOU, I'LL LET YOU SPEAK.
SO I'LL, I'LL JUST SAY WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING ON THAT RIGHT NOW.
UM, WE REALLY, REALLY HOPE TO HAVE A DASHBOARD THAT CAN PRESENT, UM, WHAT THE PROGRESS IS SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO GUESS AND WE DON'T HAVE TO EXPLAIN EVERY
UM, WE'RE ACTUALLY LIKE REALLY IN THE THICK OF THAT RIGHT NOW.
UM, AND, AND FINGERS CROSSED, IF IT WORKS, IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO FOR BOTH THE BLUEPRINT IMPLEMENTATION AND THE GOALS AND PRIORITIES OF THE LARGER CITY COUNCIL.
SO WE HAVE A LOT OF HOPE
UM, AND THE TIMELINE ON THAT IS, UM, WELL IT DEPENDS ON IF, IF WE SAY YES TO WHAT, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
SO, UM, IT COULD BE, SO IT'S ALREADY BEEN PITCHED AND WE'RE WAITING FOR AN ANSWER.
IS THAT WHAT'S HAPPENING? YOU GUYS ARE WAITING FOR AN ANSWER.
WE'VE GOTTEN PRELIMINARY INFORMATION ON IT, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE IF WE HAVE THE BUDGET FOR IT.
SO YEAH, I WOULD THINK THAT WAS A PRIORITY, HOPEFULLY FOR THE CITY.
DO WE, DO I NEED TO GO TO COUNCIL AND MAKE A COMMENT, PUBLIC COMMENT,
YEAH, HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY WE'LL KNOW NEXT WEEK
WE'LL, WE'LL, AND THEN FROM NEXT, FROM THE TIME, LET'S SAY IT GETS APPROVED NEXT WEEK, WHAT'S THE TIMELINE AFTER THAT? YEAH, I'M NOT SURE HOW, HOW, I ASSUME THERE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, SOME WEEKS IF NOT MONTHS IT WOULD TAKE TO GET ALL THE INFORMATION IN AND HAVE IT READY FOR YEAH.
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FOR CON CONSUMPTION.SO I GUESS THE QUESTION WOULD BE IS THAT, IS TWO MONTHS OR THREE MONTHS A GOOD AMOUNT OF TIME OR ARE YOU, I MEAN, I, I THINK A FORMAL BUSINESS, A FORMAL NEW BUSINESS ITEM ON THE 2025 ACTIONS THAT WERE IN THE BLUEPRINT SEEMS LIKE NOT A HUGE LIFT, I GUESS JUST IT'S, YOU KNOW, A FILTERING OF THAT SPREADSHEET.
AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST, UM, I GUESS I'LL SPEAK FOR MYSELF HERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE IDEA OF, UH, GOING AND DOING HOMEWORK, YOU KNOW, AND THEN FAILING THAT, YOU KNOW, AND THEN COMING TO A MEETING AS A FAILURE IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD RATHER LIKE TO AVOID.
AND SO IF IT'S A SIMPLE ONE PAGE SUMMARY, FILTERING THE 2025 ACTIONS MM-HMM
THAT SEEMS, THAT SEEMS SUPER MANAGEABLE.
YOU KNOW, AND, AND PLUS, YOU KNOW, LIKE NOT A REPORT OF WHAT'S BEEN DONE, BUT LIKE A UPDATE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT SOME THINGS HAVE BEEN DONE MM-HMM
AND SOME THINGS ARE MAYBE NOT 20, 25 ITEMS, YOU KNOW, WE COULD JUST BE DIFFERENT COLORED CIRCLES, YOU KNOW, BLUE, YOU GUN YELLOW, IT'S ON WAY RED YOU HAVE, THAT WILL TAKE, WILL TAKE MORE WORK.
UH, YOU'LL GET WHAT BEN NOTED.
IT'S THE SPREADSHEET THAT, UH, YEAH.
AND THEN YOU CAN JUST KIND LINE BY LINE AND THE SPREAD AND THE, THE PURPOSE IS THEN, OKAY, THIS IS THE LIST.
THESE ARE THE AD HOCS THAT WE COLLECTIVELY WANT TO TAKE FROM THAT LIST.
SO, YOU KNOW, AND TO ME, DOING THAT IN A REGULAR BUSINESS SETTING IS DIFFERENT THAN DOING A, UH, BECAUSE IF IT'S NOT IN THAT SETTING, THEN IT'S, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER COMMENT AND IT'S LIKE, DID EVERYONE DO THEIR HOMEWORK? LET'S GO DOWN THE LIST OF WHO DO IT DIDN'T, DIDN'T DO THEIR HOMEWORK.
AND SO THAT'S, I SEE A DISTINCTION THERE.
CAN I, CAN I ASK YOU TO CLARIFY, SO THIS IS FOR 2025 LOOKING BACKWARD OR FOR 2026 LOOKING FORWARD? 2025.
WHAT'S BEEN DONE IN 2025? NO, NO, NO.
THERE'S, I MEAN, THERE'S A BUNCH OF STUFF THAT HASN'T BEEN DONE THAT HAS 2025.
THE, THE DATES ARE YEAR END DATES.
WE'LL BE ABLE TO REPORT OUT WHAT THINGS ARE IN PROGRESS, WHAT THINGS ARE.
AND SO THAT MAKES SENSE TO DO THAT NEXT MONTH PROBABLY, RIGHT? AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE.
SO WE CAN MAYBE PUT THAT ON THE, OKAY, I'LL WRITE THAT DOWN.
LIKE WHAT IT WOULD TAKE FOR THE AD HOC TO ACTUALLY PRODUCE A REPORT.
I THINK IT WOULD TAKE AT LEAST FOUR MONTHS, IF NOT FIVE.
LIKE, I THINK THREE MONTHS IS TOO SHORT, RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU HAVE MONTH ONE, YOU HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT THE AD HOCS ARE.
MONTH TWO YOU HAVE AN OPEN INVITATION TO THE PUBLIC, AND MAYBE THAT'S YOUR FIRST WORKING SESSION.
NUMBER THREE, MAYBE YOU DO PRESENTATIONS AND YOU HAVE A SECOND OPEN INVITE 'CAUSE YOU'RE TRYING TO ASK PEOPLE TO COME.
AND THEN FOUR, YOU HAVE THE DRAFT REPORT AND FIVE YOU'RE DONE.
SO ANYWAY, MAYBE WE COULD DO 'EM IN, MAYBE WE COULD DO THREE ROUNDS A YEAR, BUT MAYBE, MAYBE TWO IS ENOUGH.
I THINK TWO IS ALL WE CAN DO, PROBABLY.
AND, AND MAY I JUMP IN? THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.
UH, YEAH, I, I, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE THAT WE DO NEED TO HAVE SOME PROCESS BUILT IN HERE, BUT I DO ALSO THINK, YEAH, IF WE CAN WRAP IT UP BY THE END OF THE YEAR, GET IT IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WOULD BE OH YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE IDEAL IF, AND IT MAY MEAN, YOU KNOW, SKIPPING SOME OF THAT, UM, PUBLIC INPUT THERE, BECAUSE I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE UNLESS WE GO OUT INTO THE STREETS AND GET PEOPLE, WE CAN'T FORCE 'EM TO, TO COME.
I THINK, AND I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE, IN THIS SCENARIO, IF WE HAVE AN AD HOC DOING A WORKING SESSION, IS THAT DONE HERE IN THE CHAMBERS OR, BECAUSE IF, IF IT'S, MAYBE IF THERE'S LIKE TWO AD HOCS, WE'RE NOT ALL IN AD HOCS ARE, HOW ARE WE ENVISIONING THIS WILL LOOK? IS IT, YEAH.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LIKE, WE, WE FORMED AN AD HOC IN THE NEXT MEETING, RIGHT? MM-HMM
SO THAT'S MAYBE TWO OR THREE MEMBERS, MAYBE FOUR, I DON'T KNOW, WHATEVER THE NUMBER IS.
AND THEN THE NEXT MEETING AFTER THAT, THEN THEY'RE WORKING, WE'RE HAVING A WORKING SESSION.
IS THAT IN THE MIDDLE OF LIKE, WE, WHAT WE DID LAST TIME WAS WE WOULD BREAK, GO INTO, WE'D BREAK OUT IN DIFFERENT ROOMS. AND HOW, HOW WOULD THAT LOOK THIS TIME? I GUESS THAT'S THE, I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER.
I'M JUST CURIOUS IS LIKE, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S REASONABLE TO, TO THE FIRST TIME TO BREAK OUT IN,
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INTO THOSE AD HOCS AND JUST SORT AND DO WHAT WE DID THE FIRST TIME, LAST TIME, WHICH WAS KIND OF DIG IN AND BE LIKE, OKAY, THESE ARE THE THINGS WE WANT TO DO.DOES THAT MEAN THAT EVERYONE'S DONE ON AN AD HOC? BECAUSE IF, IF, IF NOT, THEN WE'RE JUST, SOME PEOPLE ARE SITTING IN A ROOM, BUT YOU COULD JOIN IN A, LIKE, YOU COULD SIT IN ON A CONVERSATION AND NOT BE LIKE, GOTCHA.
WE'LL HAVE I, I'M GENERALLY LIKE, JUST LIKE ASKING LIKE, I DON'T KNOW.
SO WE'D HAVE DIFFERENT AD HOC NEW TWO OR THREE, AND THEN MEMBERS COULD JOIN FREELY AND THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, OF COURSE, COULD JOIN FREELY IN THESE BREAKOUT ROOMS AGAIN.
I, I JUST, I WAS ACTUALLY JUST THINKING ABOUT THAT POINT RIGHT BEFORE YOU BROUGHT IT UP.
UM, UM, TO BE CAREFUL HOW MANY, YEAH, BECAUSE, UH, A AN AD HOC BY DEFINITION NEEDS TO BE LESS THAN A QUORUM.
SO IT NEEDS TO BE LESS THAN THE WHOLE MEMBERSHIP.
SO A QUORUM FIVE, IF IT, IF IT WERE TO HAPPEN DURING A CAC MEM MEETING AND ALL MEMBERS WANTED TO PARTICIPATE, IT WOULD JUST NEED TO BE ON THE AGENDA AS AN AGENDA ITEM INSTEAD OF AN AD HOC BREAKOUT.
SO WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GO INTO ANOTHER ROOM.
IT WOULD JUST HAVE TO BE ALL DISCUSSED IN HERE LIKE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
UM, IF IT WERE TO BE AN AD HOC, A TRUE AD HOC, WHICH WOULD BE FOUR OR FEWER MEMBERS, UM, AND YOU WANTED TO DO A BREAKOUT DURING THE MEETING, IT'S A LITTLE AWKWARD BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OTHER ME THE OTHER MEMBERS WOULD BE DOING DURING THAT TIME.
WOULD THEY SIT UP WITH, WELL, IF YOU HAD THREE AD HOCS YOU COULD DIVVY UP.
JUST YOU, YOU KIND OF HAVE, YEAH.
IF EVERY MEMBER WAS PART OF AN AD HOC AND EVERYBODY BROKE OUT LIKE WE DID LAST TIME WITH THE THREE, THEN THAT THERE'S NO ISSUE.
BUT IF THERE'S ONE AD HOC OR TWO AD HOCS AND YOU ONLY HAVE AT MOST EIGHT PEOPLE ON THAT, THAT MEANS THERE'S ONE PERSON WATCHING NETFLIX IN THEIR HOUSE.
SO JUST BAD DAY'S GONNA VOLUNTEER.
WE CAN, WE CAN FIGURE IT OUT, I THINK.
BUT I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE THAT IF WE'RE HAVING A DISCUSSION THAT ALL MEMBERS WANNA PARTICIPATE IN, IT'S A DISCUSSION LIKE WE'RE HAVING RIGHT NOW.
SO CAN WE, I GUESS I'LL PUT THIS TO, TO EVERYBODY AS A QUESTION.
DO WE WANNA THROW OUT SOME IDEA OF AD HOS? WELL, I LIKE BEN'S IDEA IS, IS TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE FOR 2025 AND THEN BASE OUR AD HOCS ON THAT.
AND IF WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ITEMS, THEN MAYBE LOOK TO 2026.
SO MY CONCERN ABOUT WAITING, I MEAN, I THINK WE CAN ALWAYS CREATE ANOTHER AD HOC NEXT MONTH.
LIKE IF WE DECIDE, OKAY, WE WANNA DO EVS AND WE WANNA DO PERFECT GARDEN AND WE NEED IT, AND THEN WE WANT ANOTHER ONE, WE CAN KIND OF MAKE ANOTHER ONE OR EVEN TWO.
BUT MY, SO YOU WANNA TRY TO GET TONIGHT MY CONCERN WOULD BE THAT WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE TIMELINE, TRYING TO GET IN FRONT OF COUNCIL BY JANUARY, AND I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF WAITING ANOTHER MONTH BEFORE WE MAKE A DECISION IS GONNA HELP.
CAN WE JUST PULL UP, IS IT POSSIBLE IF STAFF JUST PULL UP THE LIST? I MEAN, CAN WE NOT LOOK AT THE 20, 25 ITEMS? IS THAT HARD TO DO IN THE, IN THE NEXT HALF HOUR? SORRY, THAT, I MEAN, WE CAN, WE CAN PULL UP THE BLUEPRINT.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, I, I'M NOT PREPARED TO TALK ABOUT EACH ITEM AND, AND WHERE WE ARE ON THEM.
I DON'T THINK I HAVE, WE DON'T, I MEAN, THIS IS JUST, JUST TO FORM, LIKE, JUST SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT LIST AND THEN BREAK OUT TOPICS JUST TO LOOK, I MEAN, WE CAN EASILY PULL UP POTENTIAL TOPICS.
THE CORNERSTONE ITEMS, ESPECIALLY 'CAUSE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, SMALL, RIGHT? A SMALLER NUMBER.
ARE YOU, ARE YOU GETTING THAT UP, DEB, OR YOU WANT ME TO? I'M SORRY.
SO WHAT'S THE REQUEST? I WAS, UM, READING SOMETHING WHEN THE OKAY.
THINK SO THE REQUEST IS, WOULD YOU DO, I KNOW YOU HAVE A SPREADSHEET IN THERE THAT HAS 'EM ALL BY, BY YEAR.
WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO JUST SORT IT AND PUT IT UP ON THE SCREEN SO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT THE, UH, CORNERSTONE ACTIONS OR 20 THAT ARE MOST RELEVANT TO 2025 AND, AND MAYBE WHILE, WHILE SHE'S PULLING THAT WE CAN CONTINUE THERE, OUR DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT MAKE UP AND THE, THE, THE, UM, CADENCE, ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
WHICH I'M TRYING TO, WELL MAYBE WHILE SHE'S PULLING THAT UP, ARE THERE ANY BURNING DESIRES FOR A, A PARTICULAR AD HOC, LIKE SITTING WITHIN PEOPLE? YEAH, I'LL, I MEAN, I AM PROPOSING A ELECTRIC VEHICLE AD HOC WITH THE PURPOSE OF IZING THE, THE VARIOUS ELECTRIC VEHICLE TOPICS.
THERE'S A DOZEN OF THEM THAT WE DISCUSSED, YOU KNOW, BOTH IN
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THE LAST MEETING AND IN THE, UM, REPORT OUT AND TO FORMALIZE THAT AD HOC WORK INTO A NEW BUSINESS ITEM.AND SO THAT WOULD BE THE OUTCOME OF THE AD HOC IS SIMPLY, YOU KNOW, ELECTRIC VEHICLE UPDATE OR I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT KIND OF NAME IT WOULD BE, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE TO DO AN ORDINANCE OR, YOU KNOW, CREATE A PLAN.
IT WOULD BE SIMPLY TO ORGANIZE AND DISTILL THE VARIOUS TOPICS OF WHICH THERE ARE MANY INTO A DISCREET NEW BUSINESS ITEM, WHICH WE COULD ALL THEN DISCUSS AND HOPEFULLY FORM AN AD HOC FROM THAT.
I MEAN, I THINK THAT IS A DELIVERABLE LIKE ORGANIZATION.
I WILL SAY I, YOU KNOW, THE REASON I DIDN'T SURFACE IT EARLIER IS I DON'T NECESSARILY EVEN THINK IT NEEDS TO BE A FORMAL AD HOC, YOU KNOW, I'M SORT OF INFORMALLY PROPOSING THAT I WILL DO THAT AND AS LONG AS WE HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE INTERESTED, BUT NOT TOO MANY PEOPLE INTERESTED THAT WE COULD MEET AND DISCUSS THAT, BUT KNOW VOTING OR ACTION NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE FOR THAT TO OCCUR.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO YOU DON'T WANT AN INFORMAL, I DON'T WANNA DO A FORMAL AD HOC THAT GETS CREATED AND THEN DISSOLVED, BUT I AM INVITING PEOPLE TO COME MEET WITH ME AND WORK ON THIS SO THAT A NEW BUSINESS ITEM CAN BE AGENDIZED, UH, AT ONE MORE THAN THREE PEOPLE, THREE EXTRA PEOPLE, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO, YOU KNOW, AND CAN, CAN YOU ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON, WHEN YOU SAY, UH, NEW ITEMIZED MM-HMM
UH, WHAT IS THE OUTCOME OF THE AGENDA ITEM THEN THAT I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.
YEAH, I MEAN THE, UH, HERE ARE ALL OF THE VARIOUS TOPICS THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED AND PROPOSED IN A LIST HERE ARE THOSE WHICH ARE NOT ONLY, UH, HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED BUT ARE IN THE BLUEPRINT.
UH, HERE ARE, UH, ONES THAT ARE BRAND NEW AS OF, YOU KNOW, THE NEW FEDERAL ADMINISTRATION, YOU KNOW, POST BLUEPRINT.
UM, SO AGAIN, I'M, AT LEAST IN MY MIND, THERE'S A DOZEN TOPICS THAT ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, NOT FORMALIZED IN ANY PLACE.
AND PUTTING THAT LIST TOGETHER IS THE OUTCOME RECORDING PROGRESS.
BUT DIDN'T REALIZE I HAD THAT SUPERPOWER.
UH, TRYING TO, TRYING TO BE AS OPEN AS I CAN BE HERE.
I I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING ANYTHING THAT COMES OUT OF AN AD HOC, YOU KNOW, BEING ACTIONABLE, RIGHT? LIKE WE, LIKE WHAT IS THE, IS THERE DIRECTION TO COUNCIL? IS THERE GUIDANCE TO COUNCIL OR IS THIS JUST A, A WAY TO CONVEY THIS TO THE PUBLIC? THE, THE, THIS IS A WAY TO GET IT ON THE AGENDA SUCH THAT WE CAN ALL TALK ABOUT IT UHHUH IN A FORMAL WAY.
AND THEN PLAN ACTIONS FROM THAT, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE AT LEAST ACCORDING TO THE CURRENT RULES, WE CAN'T REALLY EVEN TALK ABOUT ELECTRIC VEHICLE SUBSTANCE RIGHT NOW.
YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? YOU KNOW, LIKE, YEAH.
SO I MEAN, I WOULD SAY THAT WOULD BE A TOPIC FOR ANOTHER, RIGHT? YEAH.
EXCEPT I, I AM, I AM VOLUNTEERING TO PUT A LITTLE MEAT TO THAT TOPIC.
ARE THERE ANY, UM, BURNING, UH, DESIRES, MAYBE TRANSIT OR IS THAT ALREADY, LIKE, WOULD THAT BE IN A DIFFERENT CATEGORY? I WAS, 'CAUSE I WAS LOOKING AT TRANSIT, KIND OF THE MAIN THING I WAS THINKING ABOUT IS LIKE ACCESSIBILITY FOR TRANSIT BECAUSE, SO THAT LIKE PUBLIC TRANSIT SO PEOPLE YEAH.
LIKE THE BUSES AND THAT SORT OF THING.
IF, IF I COULD ADD TO THAT, UM, THAT SEEMS LIKE ONE OF THOSE GREAT THINGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE COORDINATION BETWEEN, UM, CITY COMMISSIONS AND, AND COMMITTEES LIKE ADVOCACY AT THE TRANSIT ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UH, WOULD BE AMAZING.
I THINK IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO CHAMPION THAT.
UM, IT, YOU KNOW, AND ALSO IT'S KIND OF, YOU KNOW, TRUSTING THE OTHER COMMITTEES TO, TO DO THEIR, THEIR PART AS WELL AND, AND ENCOURAGING THEM IF YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY'RE GOING FAR ENOUGH.
SO FOR, FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, I'D, I'D RECOMMEND ADVOCACY OVER ANOTHER AD HOC FOR THAT.
WELL, THERE WAS ONE COMMISSIONER AT THE LAST TRANSIT MEETING
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AND HE FOUND IT TO BE PRETTY INTERESTING.UH, AND SORRY, DEB DID, EXCUSE ME.
UH, DID WE HAVE ANY LUCK WITH GETTING, PULLING UP THE, THE LIST? YEAH.
BUT IT SECONDS, I THINK HOPEFULLY THAT, THAT COULD ILLUMINATE, KIND OF INSPIRE US TO, TO THINK ABOUT WHAT, WHAT AD HOCS THAT WE MAY WANT TO CONSIDER.
SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO BE SO INFORMAL.
UH, FIRST I, I I WOULD SUPPORT THE, UM, UH, EV UH, VEHICLES, UM, FOR, UH, AS A SEPARATE ROUTE.
'CAUSE THAT NEEDS TO BE, UH, GET SOME HELP.
'CAUSE STAFF CAN'T DO EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO GET DONE IN THAT TOPIC AREA.
THERE'S ORDINANCES GET TO BE, HAVE TO BE MADE UP.
UH, WE HAVE BOTH THE BIKES AND THE CARS AND JUST KEEPING UP WITH THE CHANGING TECHNOLOGY.
IT'S CHANGING RAPIDLY RIGHT NOW, INCLUDING, UM, FLYING, FLYING CARS NOW OR BEING INTRODUCED IN VARIOUS PLACES.
CAN I ASK, SORRY, CAN I ASK FOR CLARITY REAL QUICK? ARE YOU SAYING YOU RECOMMEND IT BEING AN AD HOC OR ARE YOU SAYING YOU THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA WHAT BEN IS SAYING? IF, IF THERE IS A, UM, IF WE DO CREATE AN AD HOC AROUND IT, BUT A TEAM WOULD GET TOGETHER AND KIND OF WORK ON THAT PARTICULAR TOPIC AREA TO, UM, TO GIVE HELP TO, TO DEB WHO'S ON THE CLIMATE CHANGE.
BUT THAT'S SUPPORTING STAFF AND SUPPORTING US, SAYING THEY'RE GONNA DELVE DEEPER AND, AND, AND HELP MOVE THAT FORWARD.
UM, AND DOES COME UP WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS OF WHERE WE, WHERE WHAT WE CAN DO AND PUSH FORWARD.
SO WHETHER IT'S INFORMAL OR FORMAL THAT THAT'S UP TO THIS COMMITTEE, HOW, HOW YOU WANNA DO THAT.
THE OTHER, THE, THE, THE TRANSIT, JUST HAVING A COORDINATION WITH THE, 'CAUSE WE DO HAVE A, A TRANSIT COMMITTEE AND JUST HAVING A, A CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THE TWO IS, AND WITH BIKE AND PED ALSO.
SO IF THAT TEAM WERE TOGETHER AND WORK WITH ED AS WELL AS, UH, THE, THE TRANSIT COMMITTEES, THERE'S TWO COMMITTEES THERE.
AND WE NEED TO ACTUALLY WORK TOGETHER, UH, ALL THREE COMMITTEES.
SO BECAUSE WE SHOULDN'T BE DOING THE WORK FOR THEM OR, OR INSTEAD OF THEM OR BESIDE THEM, WE SHOULD BE DOING WITH THEM.
SO THAT'S ANOTHER AREA OF, IF FOLKS WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE ATTEND THOSE MEETINGS AND BRING THINGS BACK AND, AND WORK THERE, THERE MIGHT BE A TEAM THAT DOES THAT.
THE, UM, THE OTHER AREA TO THINK ABOUT IS, UM, WHERE STAFF MIGHT COULD USE SOME HELP IS WORKING WITH, UH, PG E AND SONOMA CLEAN POWER, A SEPARATE TEAM THAT JUST DOES, UM, 'CAUSE WE DO HAVE A COUNCIL MEMBER THAT GOES TOOMA, CLEAN POWERS TYPE MEETINGS FOR EVERYTHING.
BUT, UM, IF FOLKS ARE INTERESTED IN DIGGING DEEPER IN THE TECHNOLOGY THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE NEEDING HERE IN OUR WHOLE INFRASTRUCTURE, WHETHER IT BE SOLAR PANELS AND, AND TWO-WAY, UH, BATTERIES AND CARS, SO GOING IN AND OUT.
SO FOLKS NEED TO BE HELPING TO KEEP THAT TECHNOLOGY ALIVE AND BRINGING IT FORWARD AND SAYING, THIS IS WHERE WE CAN GO AND WHAT WE'RE DOING.
THIS, THIS WHOLE COMMITTEE HERE BASICALLY HAS TO TURN INTO A RESOURCE FOR THE CITY AND THE STAFF TO DIG DEEPER INTO AREAS THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO DEAL WITH.
AND THEN HELP THEM WITH THESE ISSUES BY, BY DOING THAT DIGGING.
AND THIS IS WHERE AD HOCS MAY HELP, OR IF INDIVIDUALS WANTED, WANTED TO SAY, HEY, I'M GOING TO DIG DEEP INTO THIS TOPIC AND, AND I'M GONNA HAVE GIVE OUT REPORTS HERE, UH, TO THE REST OF THE GROUP TO THINK ABOUT WHAT WE WANNA DO AS A GROUP THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD WORK FOR ME TOO.
BUT THESE ARE AREAS THAT I THINK AS A COMMITTEE, WHAT'S NOT HAPPENING NOW, WHAT WE NEED TO DO AS A COMMITTEE DOWN THE ROAD HERE TO HELP THE CITY OUT, HELP THE COUNCIL OUT, HELP THE OTHER COMMITTEES OUT, UM, UH, AND NOT KIND OF FLOUNDER AROUND AND, AND BE TALKING, BUT ACTUALLY, UM, DOING THE RESEARCH AND BRINGING THE INFORMATION AND MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO GO.
SO WHETHER WE DO IT INDIVIDUALLY AND ASSIGN INDIVIDUAL TASKS TO, TO FOLKS AND MOVE FORWARD AND TO BRING BACK REPORTS AND IDEAS OR WE FOR AD HOCS TO DO THAT, HOWEVER YOU WANNA DO THAT, BUT WE NEED TO KIND OF, UM, REINVENT THIS, THIS WHOLE GROUP AS TO WHERE WE'RE GOING, HOW WE'RE GONNA DO THAT.
AND AD HOC IS JUST ONE OF THOSE TOPICS OF, OF WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE DOING.
SO I, I JUST THOUGHT I'D JUST BRING THESE IDEAS FORWARD.
SO JUST TO CLARIFYING QUESTION, UH, THE, THE WORK THAT THESE GROUP, THESE AD HOCS DID AND PUT THE, DID YOU, WERE YOU ABLE TO READ THE SUMMARIES THAT WE PUT TOGETHER? UH, I I DIDN'T READ THE, THE FULL SUMMARY.
YEAH, I JUST READ OUR, OUR LITTLE SUMMARY.
BUT SO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, LIKE, IS THAT WHAT YOU MEAN BY HAVING RECOMMENDATIONS, LIKE DOING THE RESEARCH AND HAVING RECOMMENDATIONS SO THAT THAT, UH, THAT MIGHT BE A SEPARATE, DIFFERENT AD HOC GROUP THAT MIGHT BE FOLLOW UP.
IT WAS, THESE ARE THE ACTIONS, THESE ARE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT, THAT THEY'VE MOVED FORWARD THAT WE'VE PRESENTED THEM NOW IS, IS THERE SOMEONE PUSHING THEM TO MAKE 'EM HAPPEN? WE'RE HELPING MAKE THEM HAPPEN.
THAT MIGHT BE ANOTHER AD HOC OR WHOLE, OR THE WHOLE COMMISSIONER COULD BE WORKING ON THAT, UH, AS A GROUP.
UM, KEEPING THE SAME AD HOCS TO SAY NOW, NOW THAT WE'VE MADE THE RECOMMENDATIONS, ALRIGHT, WE GOTTA PUSH, MAKE WE THINGS HAPPEN.
SO DIFFERENT THINGS THAT COULD BE DONE.
SO JUST THINKING ABOUT HOW AS A, AS A TEAM TOGETHER, THAT'S, YOU GUYS ARE GONNA HAVE TO WORK IT OUT AS TO HOW YOU WANNA MOVE FORWARD EITHER AS INDIVIDUALS OR AS AS SMALL GROUPS OR AS A FULL BOARD HERE
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COMING TOGETHER MM-HMMSO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DYNAMICS HERE OF, OF THE WHOLE OF, UH, YOUR, OUR ORGANIZATION HERE.
ANYWAY, I JUST THOUGHT I'D JUST LEAVE THAT UP TO YOU GUYS TO THINK ABOUT.
I'LL, I'LL JUST, JUST TO FOLLOW ON KIND OF WHAT HE SAID AND BUILD ON THAT.
AND ALSO SORT OF MAYBE TO FURTHER RESPOND TO DAVE'S POINT, AT THE LAST MEETING I HAD PROPOSED AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE AD HOC, YOU KNOW, AND I WAS DEAD SET ON CREATING THAT.
UH, AND THEN AFTER REFLECTING ON THE SUCCESS OF THE FOOD WASTE ORDINANCE, EVEN THE ELECTRICAL VEHICLE AD HOC IS TOO BIG AND WE JUST WOULD NOT GET ANY MOMENTUM, ANY PARTICULAR TOPIC.
AND SO I DON'T THINK AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE AD HOC IS APPROPRIATE, BUT SOMETHING MORE LIKE NEW BUSINESS ITEMS TO TALK ABOUT ELECTRIC VEHICLES WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.
BUT THAT LIKE AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING POLICY AD HOC WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.
SO YOUR IDEA IS THAT WE COULD HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AND THEN FIGURE OUT KIND OF WHAT'S MORE SPECIFIC YES.
FOR THE AD HOC TO BE SUCCESSFUL, IT NEEDS TO BE NARROW AND FOCUSED.
AND I, YEAH, GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER GREG.
UH, SO THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.
I THINK YOU KIND OF SPELLED OUT MY CONCERNS IS I THINK THE REASON THAT THE FOOD WERE ORDINANCE, UH, WAS SUCCESSFUL OR AS, AS AN APP THROUGH AN AD HOC WAS SUCCESSFUL WAS EXACTLY LIKE YOU SAID, NARROWLY DEFINED AND ACTIONABLE.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE, THE POWER THAT ANY OF US AS COMMISSIONERS HAVE IS PRETTY LIMITED.
WE SHOULD JUST BE REAL ABOUT THAT, RIGHT? LIKE, WE'RE NOT PUSHING ON STAFF TO GET THINGS DONE.
BEING A LIAISON WITH OTHER COMMITTEES IS GREAT AS AN INFORMATIONAL, EDUCATIONAL, UH, PATHWAY AND SOME COORDINATION.
BUT REALLY OUR POWER LIES IN OUR ABILITY TO GET THINGS IN FRONT OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD PROBABLY BE ORIENTING OURSELVES TOWARDS IF WE WANNA ACTUALLY HAVE AN EFFECT ON CITY POLICY.
AND SO I THINK BEN'S POINT IS, RIGHT? LIKE IF YOU WANT TO TAKE IT THROUGH A BE LIKE A PRE AD HOC REVIEW WHAT IS AVAILABLE THROUGH THE BLUEPRINT, PICK ONE THING, WORK ON THAT ONE THING THROUGH AN AD HOC AND HAVE IT BE SOMETHING THAT WE VOTE OUT AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
ANYTHING ELSE THAT ISN'T SOMETHING WE VOTE ON, I JUST DON'T THINK IS A GOOD USE OF OUR TIME OR STAFF'S TIME BECAUSE IT JUST, YOU KNOW, OTHERWISE WE'RE JUST LEARNING STUFF, WHICH IS GREAT.
BUT, UH, NOW THAT WE'VE DONE THE BLUEPRINT, THE ABILITY TO EXERCISE POWER IS PRETTY LIMITED.
AND SO WE NEED TO FIND NEW VEHICLES AND THOSE THINGS ARE ONLY GONNA HAPPEN THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GONNA GET IN FRONT OF COUNCILS TO VOTE THINGS OUT OF THIS COMMISSION.
SO I MEAN, I THINK THE POWER THAT WE HAVE IS NOT THAT WE GET TO MAKE THE DECISIONS, IT'S THAT WE GET TO ADVISE THE DECISION MAKERS.
AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE IS TO ADVISE THE DECISION MAKERS.
AND I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER WE PUT FORWARD, WE DO THE RESEARCH, WE SAY BASED ON THIS RESEARCH, LIKE THIS IS WHAT WE THINK YOU SHOULD BE DOING.
THAT GIVES COUNCIL POWER TO DO THOSE THINGS.
LIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE POWER TO DO THE THINGS THAT I AGREE MAYBE THEY WANNA DO ANYWAYS.
UM, BEN, I JUST WANNA CHALLENGE YOUR PRESUMPTION THAT AN EV AD HOC IS TOO BROAD BY POINTING OUT THAT THE AD HOC THAT PRODUCED THE FOOD WEAR ORDINANCE HAD A MUCH BROADER PURVIEW INITIALLY AND THEY CHOSE TO FOCUS IN ON IT.
AND SO I THINK YOU COULD HAVE AN EV AD HOC AND IT COULD BE THE FIRST JOB OF THAT AD HOC TO DECIDE WHICH EV PROJECT TO WORK ON WITH THAT MUCH MORE SPECIFIC AIM IN MIND.
I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, ALL OF US NEED TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT DECISION.
I THINK IT COULD BE DELEGATED TO THE TWO, THREE, OR FOUR PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO FOCUS ON THAT TOPIC.
I'M GOING BRING US BACK OVER TO THE 2025 BLUEPRINT, UH, CORNERSTONES,
I SAW YOU PUT IT UP AND THEN TOOK IT DOWN.
UM, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS IF I FEEL LIKE SOMEONE'S SEEING MY CLOSET RIGHT NOW,
AND SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR ROLLING WITH IT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR FLEXIBILITY.
IT'S WHY I, I, I WOULD REALLY RATHER HAVE THIS BE AS PART OF AN ACTUAL PRESENTATION RATHER THAN SHOW YOU GUYS LIKE QUICKLY I HAD TO CLEAN IT UP WHEN I OPENED IT.
LIKE YOU'RE SEEING LITERALLY MY WORKING DOCUMENT AND, AND IT'S SO, IT'S BEAUTIFUL.
UH, THE, I I WILL NOTE THAT THE CARBON GARDEN CAMPAIGN IS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST ONE THAT IS THE MOST ENCOMPASSING AND COVERS THE MAJORITY OF THE, UM, UH, NATURAL, UH, SYSTEMS AND SEQUESTRATION ELEMENTS.
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A CARBON GARDEN, IT'S OUR URBAN FORESTRY MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT COMES UNDERNEATH THAT.IT'S ABOUT, IT'S ABOUT GETTING AS MANY OF OUR SPACES THAT NEED TO BE INTEGRATED WITH GR UH, GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE.
UH, AND SO THAT ONE IS A BIG ONE.
UM, I DID HIGHLIGHT THIS OTHER ONE.
THE, THAT IS OSM ONE, WHICH IS THE LOCAL AND REGIONAL SEQUESTRATION PROJECTS POLICY.
UH, THAT WAS, UH, HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATION DURING, UH, THE ORIGINAL, UH, BLUEPRINT APPROVAL.
UH, THOSE ARE THE TWO BIG ONES.
AND THE CARBON GARDEN CAMPAIGN IS THE ONE THAT IS GOING TO BE, UH, LAUNCHING SOON AND WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE, UH, CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION SUPPORT.
UM, THAT'S WHERE ALL OF THESE LAND MANAGEMENT ONES GET COVERED A, UH, A LOT.
IF WE LOOK AT IT FROM A SYSTEMS PERSPECTIVE, ADOPT A, AGAIN, LIKE AN ADOPT A PARK PROGRAM FALLS UNDERNEATH A CARBON GARDEN ELEMENT.
IT'S BRINGING TOGETHER ALL THE PIECES, UH, THAT WE CAN IDENTIFY IN THERE.
UM, THE URBAN FORESTRY MANAGEMENT PLANS ALREADY UNDERWAY.
UM, THE GEN THE GENERAL PLAN, THAT STUFF IS UNDERWAY AND THAT'S, SO IT REALLY SHOULD SAY IN PROGRESS.
IT'S JUST, UH, LIKE I SAID, SOME OF THESE I DON'T, I JUST BYPASS THEM 'CAUSE I'M LIKE, OH, THAT ONE'S, THAT ONE'S JUST GOING.
SO THAT'S WHY I SAY YOU'RE SEEING MY DIRT, MY DIRTY CLOSET RIGHT NOW.
UM, I I, I THINK I FOUND ONE THAT SPEAKS TO ME AND I'D BE HAPPY TO PROPOSE, UH, IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT THE MISSING MIDDLE, THERE'S ONE THAT MENTIONED THE MISSING MIDDLE, UH, HOUSING MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING NUMBER.
WE JUST, YOU CAN USE THE FINE FUNCTION.
EXAMINE REZONING TO ALLOW FOR LIGHT TOUCH MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING.
YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY ALREADY PRETTY SPECIFIC NOW THAT I LOOK AT IT, BUT IT DOES, UH, UH, I MEAN, YEAH, IT CAN YOU, WE MAYBE DON'T NEED TO DO THIS NOW, BUT YEAH, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR, JUST HEAR IF THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF THE GENERAL PLAN.
SO YEAH, SO A LOT OF THE STUFF THAT'S LIKE, IT'S KIND OF OUT OF OUR HANDS ANYWAYS.
SO CHAIR, ACTUALLY, IF I COULD JUMP IN.
SO, SO I, I THINK THE APPROACH WE WERE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW IS LIKE, WHAT DOES THE COMMISSION WANT TO DO? LIKE WHAT, WHAT INTERESTS YOU IF WE'VE SWITCHED THAT AROUND AND WHAT THE STAFF NEED HELP WITH, WHAT WOULD WE WANT
UM, AND MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD REFINE A LITTLE BIT MORE.
UM, BUT YEAH, SO MAYBE IF WE REFRAME THE QUESTION A LITTLE BIT.
LIKE WE DON'T, WE RECOGNIZE YOU'RE ALL VOLUNTEERS AND YOU HAVE LIVES OUTSIDE OF THIS COMMISSION AND WE'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO ENGAGE YOU IN THINGS THAT REALLY ARE ENGAGING TO YOU.
UM, BUT IN TERMS OF LIKE WHAT WOULD ACTUALLY TAKE STUFF OFF OUR SHOULDER AND BE MEANINGFUL WORK AND IMPROVE, I THINK THE CARBON GARDENING ONE IS, IS A GOOD ONE.
UM, BECAUSE THAT IT REALLY IS IN LINE WITH THE PURPOSE OF THE CAC, WHICH IS TO BE THAT EDUCATIONAL NEXUS, UM, WITH THE COMMUNITY AND HELPING US, UH, TALK ABOUT OUR CLIMATE PROGRAMS. AND I THINK THAT'S ONE WE'RE GONNA NEED A LOT OF ENGAGEMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY ON.
UM, BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, RES STRIPING A STREET SO THAT IT'S MORE CONDUCIVE TO, UM, BICYCLES.
IT'S, IT'S ALL THE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURES, THE TREES, IT'S THE, THE PLANTING.
IT'S THE MAKING IT MORE ENJOYABLE TO, TO HAVE AN ACT, A SAFE, ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION TRIP.
UM, AND ALSO SEQUESTERING THOSE CARBONS IN OUR LANDSCAPE ASSESSMENT DISTRICTS WE'RE, WHICH ARE IN DIRE NEED OF HELP RIGHT NOW TOO.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS IN IT.
UM, IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE A PRETTY ALL ENCOMPASSING PROJECT, WHICH IS KIND OF COUNTERED TO WHAT WE SAY IS LIKE, PICK ONE THING AND FOCUS REALLY NARROWLY ON IT.
BUT THERE MIGHT BE A WAY THAT WE START OUT KIND OF BROAD ON THE, THE CARBON GARDENING AND SAY, THIS IS THE WHOLE UNIVERSE OF CARBON GARDENING.
AND THEN IT GETS NARROWED DOWN INTO THE, INTO ONE OR MORE AD HOCS ON WHAT SPECIFICALLY CAN BE DONE WITHIN THAT
CAN I, CAN I ASK A QUESTION ON THAT CARBON GARDENING ITEM? PROBABLY BEST TO DEB
SO AS A, LET'S JUST SAY AS A, UM, AN EXAMPLE OF CARBON GARDENING WOULD, WOULD LIKE RELIEFS WORK WHERE THEY'RE JUST PLANTING TREES EVERYWHERE.
WOULD YOU CONSIDER THAT, LIKE, IF THAT WAS FORMALIZED, THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE CARBON GARDENING? A HUNDRED PERCENT.
BUT IT'S BRINGING ALL THE WAY I LOOK AT IT IS WE BRING ALL OF OUR POTENTIAL COMMUNITY PARTNERS TOGETHER
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AND WE LEVERAGE EVERYONE'S RESOURCES TOGETHER TO SAY YOU ALL HAVE, UH, THE ABILITY TO, TO BE A PART OF THIS CAMPAIGN.BE IT THE GARDEN CLUB, BE IT THE, UH, FRIENDS OF THE PETALUMA RIVER.
ALL THOSE PLACES HAVE SPACES THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE HAVE, UH, CARBON SEQUESTRATION POTENTIAL BE THAT TREES.
IT COULD BE BOUNTY WITH FOOD COMMUNITY GARDENS.
AREN'T THEY ALREADY DOING IT? LIKE IN MY, THE QUESTION IS LIKE, IT'S NOT ORGANIZED AT THIS POINT.
WE DO ALL, UH, THE, ALL OF OUR WORK IS DONE AS A SCATTER SCATTERSHOT.
AS OPPOSED TO AN ORGANIZED CAMPAIGN WHERE WE'RE ALL TRACKING THE AMOUNT OF CONVERSION THAT WE'RE HAVING TO FOOD AND LAND.
MAYBE I'LL, WE'LL JUST I'LL LET THAT ONE BE.
I JUST, FOR ME, I'M LIKE, THEY'RE DOING IT.
I, YOU KNOW, A SCATTERSHOT LIKE THE, THE, I THINK THE HARD PART WOULD BE IF YOU CONVENE EVERYBODY, WHAT WOULD BE THE DIFFERENT, THEY WOULD ALL STILL WANNA DO THESE THINGS THAT THEY'RE DOING.
THEY CONTINUE DOING WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S LEVERAGING RESOURCES IS THAT WE YEAH.
MAKE EVERYBODY REALIZE THAT THEY'RE A PART OF, OF SOMETHING AND THAT SOMETHING IS REACHING OUT TO THE PUBLIC THAT IS BEYOND OUR CHOIR.
UH, AND REALLY ENGAGING PEOPLE IN A, IN A WAY THAT MAKES THEM FEEL LIKE WE'RE ALL DOING SOMETHING THAT IS PROBABLY THE MOST VISIBLE THING THAT PEOPLE CAN DO, WHICH IS PLANT A TREE, PLANT A GARDEN, TOTALLY TRANSFORM OUR, THEIR FRONT YARD INTO, BE IT A VEGETABLE GARDEN OR A, UM, A WATER WISE GARDEN, A NATIVE PLANT GARDEN.
UH, THERE'S SCHOOLS THAT WE CAN DO THAT THAT WE NEED TO DO THAT ON.
THERE ARE GIANT LAWNS ALL OVER THIS TOWN THAT EITHER SHOULD HAVE TREES OR SHOULD HAVE SOME SORT OF ELEMENT TO SUPPORT BIODIVERSITY.
AND THAT'S ONE THAT, THAT IS REALLY AN OPPORTUNITY I SEE AS TO ENGAGE PEOPLE IN CLIMATE IN A MUCH MORE TANGIBLE WAY.
THAT'S, I GUESS THE, THE, THE QUESTION I HAVE IS LIKE, HOW, LIKE WHAT AS COMMISSIONERS WOULD BE THE TANGIBLE OUTCOME? IS IT, IS IT THE PUBLIC OUTREACH? IS IT THE CONVENING? AND IF IT'S A CONVENING, IS THAT DEVELOP INTO SOME KIND OF DO? I'M NOT SURE.
I FEEL LIKE THE AD HOC IT CAN FIGURE OUT HOW THEY CAN BE THE MOST USEFUL.
I'M NOT SURE WE NEED TO, I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE IS OUT TONIGHT.
UM, I JUST WANNA SAY, PATRICK, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU SAYING COULD WE FLIP IT BECAUSE, UM, I, I THINK IN A SENSE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING.
INSTEAD OF US SAYING, HEY, THIS LOOKS LIKE FUN.
WOULDN'T THIS BE COOL? YOU GUYS ARE THE ONE WHO KNOW WHAT IS IN MOTION, WHAT IS STUCK? WHAT COULD REALLY USE A SHOULDER TO THE WHEEL IN A WAY THAT WE CAN BE USEFUL? 'CAUSE THERE ARE PLENTY OF THINGS WHERE WE ACTUALLY CAN'T BE USEFUL.
AND SO THAT'S WHY I POSED THE QUESTION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH THE LARGER COMPANIES.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN BE USEFUL OR NOT.
SO I WOULD LOVE TO SAY, HEY, COME BACK IN SEPTEMBER AND TELL US HERE ARE FIVE PROJECTS WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU DO PICK THREE.
UM, SO YEAH, I'M GONNA, I'LL JUST THROW THIS OUT HERE.
I KNOW THAT THEY WANT HELP WITH SEQUESTRATION AND CARBON GARDENING, THAT WHOLE SECTION.
'CAUSE THEY JUST SAID THAT
IS THAT RIGHT? FOR PUBLIC, YEAH.
UM, AND THEN I ALSO WANNA SAY THAT, UM, COMMISSIONER KRISHNA BROUGHT UP ACCESSIBILITY FOR TRANSIT.
AND I, I THINK THAT'S IN A, THE SAME VEIN AS LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO GET MORE PEOPLE TO TAKE PUBLIC TRANSIT, RIGHT? THAT'S A PRETTY BIG GOAL FOR REDUCING OUR EMISSIONS.
UM, AND IF WE CAN, LIKE, IF THE DELIVERABLE IS LIKE A SURVEY OF LIKE WHAT ARE PEOPLE'S, UH, LIKE WHY AREN'T THEY TAKING PUBLIC TRANSIT? THEN BY THE END OF, YOU KNOW, FOUR MONTHS OR FIVE MONTHS, YOU CAN SAY LIKE, THESE ARE THE MAIN REASONS PEOPLE AREN'T TAKING PUBLIC TRANSIT.
LIKE, THESE ARE THE THINGS WE RECOMMEND COUNCIL GO FOR.
I THINK THAT IS A REALLY VALUABLE, USEFUL PIECE OF INFORMATION.
SO, I, I, I WOULD JUST, I JUST WANNA THROW OUT THAT I THINK THAT THAT COULD BE A USEFUL AD HOC TO HAVE.
UM, SO THOSE ARE THE THREE THAT I HAVE WRITTEN DOWN BASED ON EVERYBODY'S, UM, COMMENTS.
SHOULDN'T WE ASK, THOUGH, IS THAT STAFF'S, UH, DO, DO YOU FEEL LIKE TRANSIT AND ACCESSIBILITY TRANSIT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU DESPERATELY NEED HELP ON? I'M, I'M, I'M JUST THINKING, I'M, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT QUESTION OF JARED HALL, OUR TRANSIT MANAGER.
'CAUSE I KNOW THAT THEY SURVEY PEOPLE MM-HMM
UM, PERIODICALLY FOR WHO'S WRITING IT.
AND THEN I THINK THEY ALSO TRY TO CAPTURE WHO'S NOT WRITING IT.
I, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A DATA GAP, SO, OKAY.
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OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT WORKING.WE
BUT I'M, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE PROBLEM THAT WE NEED TO SOLVE IS.
LIKE WHAT SPECIFIC PART OF THAT IS, IS NOT WORKING, WHAT LEVER WE WOULD NEED TO PULL TO INCREASE THAT.
SO, AND, AND YEAH, I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON IT, SO I'D, I'D DEFER TO THE EXPERT ON THAT.
SO ARE THAT COULD BE, IT COULD BE MORE, IT COULD BE MORE OF A SUBSET THOUGH.
FOR EXAMPLE, PRINTOUT, IF YOU WERE INTERESTED IN THAT, YOU COULD LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, YOUR GENERATION, COHORT, COHORT, WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD SOLVE ACCESSIBILITY QUESTIONS FOR YOUR GENERATION COHORT, FOR EXAMPLE.
I ACTUALLY MIGHT HAVE A IDEA ABOUT THAT.
OH, SO I THINK IT MIGHT BE THE APP FOR THE, THE APP FOR LIKE PETALUMA TRANSIT FOR LIKE THE BUS, LIKE LAST YEAR, NO, TWO YEARS AGO.
UH, MY FRIEND WOULD ALWAYS TAKE THE BUS AND HE WOULD LIKE COMPLAIN EVERY DAY ABOUT LIKE HOW THE SCHEDULES WERE NEVER LIKE UPDATED.
SO HE DIDN'T KNOW WHEN THEY WERE COMING.
SO JUST, UH, I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE KIND OF A SUBSET OF THAT MAYBE WOULD BE HARDER FOR THE TRANSIT GROUP TO GET TO.
AND MAYBE PRINTOFF HAS, HAS ABILITY TO, TO PULL THAT TOGETHER.
BUT, BUT ALSO I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD PUBLIC COMMENT FOR A CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
BECAUSE THEY NEED TO, YOU KNOW, THEY NEED TO HEAR THAT THAT'S A PROBLEM.
YOU KNOW, LIKE THAT IS A BIG TURNOFF.
LIKE I, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S, IF YOU CAN NEVER TELL, AND HE DID IT ANYWAYS 'CAUSE FOR WHATEVER REASON, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE JUST GONNA BE LIKE, FORGET IT IF THEY HAVE THE CHOICE, YOU KNOW? YEAH.
WELL I THINK, I MEAN, THE PART OF THE REASON WHY THERE ARE YOUTH MEMBERS ON THE COMMISSION IS TO BRING, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT ARE GERMANE TO YOUR, YOUR AGE GROUP, YOU KNOW? MM-HMM
AND, AND ALSO WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE NEW HABITS AROUND USING PUBLIC TRANSIT, YOU KNOW, AND SO IT'S PROBABLY EASIER TO GET YOUR GENERATION TO USE PUBLIC TRANSIT THAN MINE PROBABLY AT THIS POINT, YOU KNOW,
SO THAT KIND OF INVESTMENT I THINK COULD PAY OFF.
SO BRINGING IT BACK TO THE BIG PICTURE, UM, IT DOES SEEM LIKE NOT A, NOT A BAD, UM, PLAN ACTUALLY TO TAKE THESE BIGGER, THESE BIGGER ONES, THE EVS AND THE SE SEQUESTRATION, CARBON GARDENING, AND SORT OF FIGURE OUT WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE LOW HANGING FRUIT IS IN THOSE AREAS THAT WE CAN BE STARTING WITH, UM, TO MAKE THE BIGGEST IMPACT.
YOU KNOW, LIKE THAT COULD BE THE, THE PURPOSE OF THE NEXT LIKE FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS SO THAT WE CAN GET IT IN FRONT OF COUNCIL BEFORE JANUARY.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT SORT OF AD HOC SESSION COULD BE THE MORE SPECIFIC GOALS.
I, I MEAN, COULD WE, DO WE NEED TO HAVE A VOTE ON THE THREE AD HOCS? COULD I MAKE A MOTION? YEAH.
TO, TO SUPPORT THREE AD HOCS MOVING FORWARD FOR THE NEXT, UM, FIVE MONTHS.
SO TO BE COMPLETED BY THE DECEMBER MEETING AND THAT WE'D FOCUS ON CARBON GARDENING, UM, ELECTRIC VEHICLES AND, UM, TRANSIT AND THAT WE WOULD, UM, SPEND THE NEXT MEETING, MAKE AN OPEN INVITATION TO OUR NEXT MEETING FOR THE PUBLIC TO COME AND, UM, THEN WORK ON, UM, DEFINING THOSE TOPICS INTO SOME KIND OF ACTIONABLE ITEMS THAT, THAT GET DISCUSSED AND COME OUT IN THE NEXT SESSION SO THAT IT'S ACTUALLY A PRODUCTIVE RATHER THAN A RESEARCH, UM, EFFORT.
I'LL, I, I MIGHT BE AN OUTLIER HERE.
I ACTUALLY DO, DO NOT SUPPORT THE NOTION OF A, UH, TRANSIT OR PUBLIC TRANSIT AD HOC IN THIS.
I DO THINK THERE IS A LOT OF REDUNDANCY WITH THE TRANSIT, UH, ADVISORY MEET, UH, COMMITTEE.
YOU KNOW, I WILL SAY, UM, FOR THOSE INTERESTED IN THE TOPIC, IF YOU HAVEN'T HEARD OF THE MASCOT'S PLAN, YOU KNOW, LIKE THAT IS A EXCELLENT PLACE TO START AND MORE, YOU KNOW, OF A REGIONAL COORDINATION EFFORT.
AND SO IF YOU DO WANT TO FURTHER THAT, THAT IS LESS OF A PETALUMA AD HOC SPECIFIC THING AND MORE OF A REGIONAL COORDINATION EFFORT, AND I TOTALLY SUPPORT PEOPLE PARTICIPATING IN THAT.
UM, BUT I DON'T SUPPORT THE IDEA OF A CITY OF PETALUMA CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION AD HOC FOR, UH, PUBLIC TRANSIT.
THERE IS ALREADY, WE'RE ALREADY WAY BEHIND IN WHAT'S ALREADY HAPPENING AND THE AMOUNT OF
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IMPACT WE CAN HAVE, UM, IS LIMITED.THAT BEING SAID, I DO THINK, LIKE, AGAIN, TOTALLY LIKE ADVOCATING FOR THE CITY TRANSIT DEPARTMENT TO SWITCH FROM THEIR OWN APP TO THE TRANSIT APP.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I MADE THAT SUGGESTED MYSELF.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT THERE ARE DISCREET THINGS THAT WE CAN DO AND SHOULD DO, BUT THE NOTION OF AN AD HOC TO ADVANCE THOSE TOPICS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT I PERSONALLY SUPPORT.
I THINK IT'S CONCEIVABLE THAT A TRANSIT AD HOC COULD DECIDE THAT THEIR MOST PRODUCTIVE ROLE WAS ADVOCACY AND TO ATTEND THOSE MEETINGS AND TO LEARN ABOUT THE PROGRAM THAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING AS OPPOSED TO COMING UP WITH A NEW PROJECT.
I MEAN, THIS IS BEN, YOU'VE MENTIONED THIS, I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS LITERALLY FOR YEARS, THAT THE COMMISSION SHOULD BE ACTING AS LIAISONS TO THESE OTHER GROUPS.
SO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, PRANAV AND OR OTHER MEMBERS OF A TRANSIT AD HOC SHOULD DECIDE THAT THAT WAS THE APPROPRIATE ACTION TO BE TAKEN AS OPPOSED TO DEVELOP A PLAN OR A PROJECT OR A SURVEY TO JUST SHOW UP AND SAY, HERE'S A CLIMATE VIEWPOINT ON THESE ISSUES.
CAN I JUST ASK, LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, I, I FEEL LIKE THE TRANSIT COMMITTEE'S ON BOARD WITH CLIMATE ALREADY, LIKE I JUST, ARE THEY NOT, THAT ISN'T, ISN'T THE, THE, THE THINKING GENERALLY THESE DAYS IN, IN THE TRANSIT WORLD THAT WE'RE TRYING TO REDUCE EMISSIONS? I, I, WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS LIKE, WHAT ARE WE, IT'S THE USE THAT'S THE CHOIR.
ARE WE, ARE WE GONNA BE SEEING TO THE CHOIR IN THIS CASE, LIKE, HEY, THIS IS GOOD FOR CLIMATE.
THEY KNOW THAT THE THING, I THINK THE, THE PROBLEM THAT WAS BROUGHT UP IS THAT LIKE MORE PEOPLE NEED TO BE USING IT.
IT'S NOT THAT IT'S, YEAH, THEY KNOW THAT.
LIKE THAT'S, I, I DON'T MEAN TO BE SHORT.
I JUST LIKE, THEY KNOW THAT THEY WANT, THEY RE THEY REDUCE THE FARE TO ZERO IN ORDER TO INCREASE RIDERSHIP.
LIKE I FEEL LIKE THEY ARE WORKING ON THAT.
AND THAT'S WHY WE ALSO HAVE LAND USE UPDATES IN THE GENERAL PLAN.
THAT THERE IS A CONCERTED EFFORT LOCALLY AND REGIONALLY TO INCREASE RIDERSHIP.
RIDERSHIP HAS EXPLODED ON SMART.
LIKE, IT, YOU KNOW, LIKE THERE IS ALREADY THIS EFFORT TO DO THIS.
I DON'T WANT TO TAKE AWAY FROM YOUR PASSION AND YOU SHOULD ALWAYS FOLLOW YOUR PASSION.
YOU SHOULD GO TO THOSE TRANSIT COMMITTEE MEETINGS.
YOU SHOULD LEARN, YOU SHOULD ADVOCATE.
I JUST, I JUST HAVE TO AGREE WITH BEN THOUGH.
I DON'T THINK THAT HAVING AN ACTUAL, HAVING AN AD HOC TAKE FIVE MONTHS TO DO THAT, TO REPORT OUT THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE DOING LIKE THEY'RE DOING THE WORK
YOU, YOU, YOU WERE GIVING INPUT.
I I THINK MAYBE LIKE A WHOLE AD HOC MIGHT NOT BE NECESSARY.
I THINK IT'S JUST SOMETHING WE COULD LIKE, TAKE INTO ACCOUNT AND DO, LIKE SHOW UP TO THE MEETINGS IF POSSIBLE.
SO I MEAN, COULD WE PROPOSE, UH, THAT WE DO TWO WITH THE OPTION OF ADDING A THIRD IF, IF NEXT MONTH'S CONVERSATION, YOU KNOW, JUST SORT OF A THIRD UNKNOWN FACELESS ONE AND NOT EVERYBODY, LIKE, I DON'T NEED TO BE IN AN AD HOC, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I CAN SORT OF HELP KEEP, MOVE, MOVE THINGS FORWARD.
SO NOT EVERYBODY NEEDS TO BE IN AD HOC, AD HOC IN THAT WAY.
WE CAN STAY, IF WE ONLY END UP WITH TWO, THEN WE CAN STAY UNDER THE QUORUM.
UM, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF THE AREAS THAT ARE NOT BEING COVERED BY SOME OTHER COMMITTEE.
'CAUSE WE HAVE THE TREES COMMITTEE WAS ALSO GONNA HELP.
SO I'LL BE LAING WITH THEM DOING THINGS.
UH, WE HAVE THE NONPROFITS DOING THAT.
UM, UM, EVS I THINK, UM, IS, IS AN AREA THAT IS NOT BEING COVERED BY ANYBODY.
EVEN IN, IN TRANSIT IS ALL ABOUT PUBLIC TRANSIT, NOT ABOUT E EVS IN PARTICULAR, EVEN THOUGH THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF TOPIC THERE.
THE OTHER AREA THAT THAT IS REALLY CORE THAT IS NOT BEING REALLY WORKED ON BY ANY OF THE OTHER COMMITTEES IS JUST ENERGY USE IN GENERAL.
COULD BE THE PUSHING INDUCTION STOVES.
IT COULD BE, UH, IDEAS OF WORK.
WE HAVE BATTERY STORAGE SYSTEMS COMING, UH, POSSIBLY TO US OR NOT COMING TO US.
UM, SO WE NEED A GROUP OF FOLKS.
IT'S GONNA BE US TO DO THE RESEARCH AND BE ADDITIVE TO STAFF EFFORTS.
AND I JUST THINK ENERGY USE, EITHER BY THE CITY IN GENERAL OR SYSTEMS OR IN THE HOUSEHOLDS, HOW ENERGY IS BEING USED BY, BY HOUSEHOLDS.
THAT COULD BE ANOTHER AD HOC THAT REALLY SAYS OKAY, UM, 'CAUSE WE HAVE SOME THINGS THAT ARE BEING RECOMMENDED NOW.
AND UH, JUST SOMETHING TO KEEP FOLLOWING THAT UP WITH AND HELPING WITH THAT.
DO WE NEED MORE MARKETING? CAN WE GET THE PEOPLE MORE INVOLVED? CAN WE GET, CAN WE TALK TO THE, UH, PAPER ABOUT PUTTING AN AD IN? CAN WE DO THIS OR DO THAT, MAKE THINGS HAPPEN? UM, OR JUST BRING UP IDEAS ABOUT HOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
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RIGHT NOW WE'RE SORT OF LIKE STYMIED, UH, IN THAT AREA.AND IT'S ALL ABOUT, AND, AND CLIMATE CHANGE IS ALL ABOUT ENERGY USE, REALLY.
SO HOW DO WE REDUCE OUR ENERGY USE? UH, WE STILL, I THINK IS A, IS A ONE OF OUR CORE THINGS THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING.
SO I, I'M JUST GONNA BRING, BRING IT BACK BECAUSE WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE.
SO YEAH, I THINK IT WANTS TO MAKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.
I'LL MAKE THE AMENDMENT THAT WE PUT TOGETHER A THIRD AD HOC ON, UM, ENERGY USE.
I GUESS I'M A LITTLE, I, I THOUGHT LAST TIME WE DID THIS, WE SORT OF HAD AT LEAST THREE INTERESTED PEOPLE BEFORE WE FORMED THE AD HOCS.
SO I DON'T WANNA GO AND YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION,
SO I DON'T WANNA GO AND CREATE AN AD HOC OF ONE.
LET'S GO, LET'S GO DOWN THE LIST.
SO WE HAVE AN ENERGY USE, WE HAVE AN EVS AND A SEQUESTRATION, CARBON GARDENING.
UM, LET'S START WITH THE ONE THAT THE CITY SPECIFICALLY ASKED US FOR, UH, SEQUESTRATION.
JUST I GUESS BEFORE WE LIKE LIMIT THE LIST, I WILL THROW OUT THERE AS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED MANY TIMES, BUT NO REAL WORK HAS OCCURRED IS THE ENTIRE IDEA OF ADAPTATION AND NOT MITIGATION, WHICH THIS COMMITTEE HAS NOT DONE ANY FORMAL BUSINESS ON OTHER THAN THE SINGLE MEETING ON THE SEED LEVEL RISE DATA.
AND SO, UM, I DO KNOW THE CITY IS REQUIRED TO HAVE A SEA LEVEL RISE MITIGATION PLAN.
AND I IMAGINE THEY ARE NOT STAFFED UP OR PREPARED TO MEET THAT CHALLENGE.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THERE'S A LOT OF TOPICS.
THAT IS ONE I WOULD ADD TO THE LIST.
UM, SO IS THERE ANY INTEREST FOR JOINING A SEQUESTRATION AND CARBON GARDENING AD HOC AT THIS TABLE? I THINK AT THIS POINT YOU CAN JUST SAY ANYTHING YOU ARE INTERESTED IN AND YOU'RE NOT COMMITTING TO IT YET.
IS THERE ANY INTEREST TO, UH, THE EV UM, AD HOC, 1, 2, 3, 4? SO THAT, THAT'S A COUPLE OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE OVERLAPPING, BUT THAT'S OKAY.
UM, ENERGY USE IN GENERAL? I SHOULD BE, I SHOULD RAISE MY HAND FOR THAT, BUT I'M NOT
BUT WE'VE GOT, I MEAN, I GUESS I'M GOOD.
SO WE'VE GOT ONE, ONE FOR THAT.
UM, I'M DEFINITELY INTERESTED IN.
SO IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE, WE HAVE THE INTEREST IN DOING AT LEAST TWO OF THOSE AD HOCS, SO MAYBE WE AMEND IT TO TWO.
I WOULD, IF IT WAS ME AMENDING IT, I WOULD SAY TWO WITH THE OPTION OF ADDING A THIRD NEXT MONTH.
I WILL AMEND MY MOTION TO SAY TWO AD HOCS.
UH, WE'RE PUTTING ON TWO AD HOCS TONIGHT.
AND WITH THE OPTION OF ADDING ANOTHER ONE, COULD I ADD A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT? MM-HMM
MY FRIENDLY AMENDMENT WOULD BE THAT STAFF COME BACK NEXT MONTH AND HAVE SOME SUGGESTIONS AS TO WHAT THE ONE THAT MIGHT BE ADDED COULD BE.
AND THEN IF THEY'RE WILLING, YEAH.
IS THERE A SECOND? I, I'LL SECOND DEMO.
UH, AND THEN DO YOU LEAD A VOTE? OKAY.
AND SO WE ALSO NEED TO WRAP UP THE
I GUESS WE DID THIS BACKWARDS.
WE NEED TO WRAP UP THE, UM, UH, AD HOCS THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS.
UM, HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY GOT A CHANCE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THEM.
AND I THINK NOW WE JUST DO, DO WE NEED TO VOTE TO SUBMIT IT TO COUNCIL? OKAY.
SO DOES ANYBODY WANNA MAKE A MOTION TO SUBMIT OUR DOCUMENTS TO COUNCIL? SO MOVED.
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SECOND.UM, SO I THINK WE'RE READY TO TAKE A VOTE THAT WENT
COULD YOU REPEAT WHAT THE SURE.
UH, IT WAS TO SUBMIT OUR, OUR AD HOC SUMMARIES TO COUNCIL.
AND, AND SINCE I'M ON COUNCIL, I THINK I, I SHOULD PROBABLY ABSTAIN OR REUSE
IS IT A CONFLICT OF INTEREST? I, UM, YES.
AND COMMISSIONER BAKER SECONDED.
UM, I GUESS I, I SKIPPED THE PART WHERE I WAS SUPPOSED TO ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT MAYBE JUST MADE A NOTE THAT THERE'S STILL NO PUBLIC
WE, WE CAN MAKE IT A NOTE IN THE RECORD.
THERE IS STILL NO PUBLIC IN THE CHAMBER.
UM, I DID WANT TO JUST MAKE A NOTE.
I DUNNO IF YOU'RE GETTING IT TO IT, BUT THE DISBANDING OF THE EXISTING AD TALKS.
CAN I MAKE A COMMENT BEFORE WE DO THAT? I WAS HOPING THAT THE, UM, THE, THE PM ONE PARKING MANAGEMENT POLICY LITTLE BLURB THAT WE DID IN OUR AD HOC GETS PASSED TO PLANNING.
I MEAN, IF, YOU KNOW, IF ANYBODY ELSE, IF THERE'S SPECIFIC COMMISSIONS OR APARTMENTS YOU WANT TO SEE, IT MIGHT AS WELL SAY SO.
UM, SO THEN WE'RE MOVING ON TO
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COMMISSION COMMENT.DURING COMMISSION COMMENT, MEMBERS ARE INVITED TO BRIEFLY SHARE UPDATES RELEVANT TO THIS COMMISSION, INCLUDING LIAISON REPORTS FROM OTHER CITY BODIES, WHICH WE'RE ALL GONNA START DOING, UM, AND MAKE REQUESTS FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. DIALOGUE BETWEEN MEMBERS SHOULD BE LIMITED TO CLARIFYING QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS.
THAT WILL BE NO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.
DO WE HAVE ANY COMMISSION COMMENT? SORRY.
UM, PATRICK, WERE YOU SAYING WE NEED A MOTION TO DISBAND THE, OH, SORRY.
THAT THE AD HOCS HAVE BEEN DISBANDED, FULFILLED, THEIR PURPOSE, AND NO LONGER NECESSARY, AND THEY'RE DISBANDED.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THAT? ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? YEAH.
UH, THIS MAY BE A LITTLE LONGER THAN, THAN USUAL.
UM, JUST TO CATCH UP ON WHAT, WHAT'S, SO THAT YOU'RE ALL AWARE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL AND, UH, SOME OTHER THINGS THAT MAY BE GOING ON AT THE SAME TIME.
UM, I JUST CAME FROM THE, UH, MOBILE HOMES MEETING, UH, THAT WAS OVER AT THE PENAL HEALTH.
UH, THAT'S WHY I WAS LATE 'CAUSE I WAS AT THERE.
UM, SO WE DID PASS, UH, STRENGTHENED OUR REGULATIONS AND ORDINANCES AROUND THEM, UH, BUTTONED UP SOME LOOPHOLES.
UH, HOWEVER, THERE IS A, UH, THREAT OF A $3 MILLION WAR CHEST THAT THE, UH, PARK OWNERS NOW HAVE, AND THEY'RE THREATENING TO GO AFTER OUR, THE CITY.
SO THAT'S, UH, UH, COMING LEGAL BATTLE THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.
BUT WE ARE GOING TO BE DIGGING IN AND, UH, SUPPORTING THE RESIDENTS.
UM, AND, UH, WE, WE NOW CAN, CAN WORK ON A POSITION FROM STRENGTH.
SO, UH, ANYWAYS, THAT'S, THAT'S GOING ON.
UH, AND THEN TWO OTHER ACTIONS.
WE ARE INVOLVED NOW IN COOPERATING WITH OTHER CITIES AND COUNTIES ON FEDERAL.
WERE SUING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
UM, BOTH IN, UM, UH, IN, IN WASHINGTON STATE,
THERE'S A TEAM HERE IN CALIFORNIA THAT'S COME TOGETHER.
AND I MEAN, MULTIPLE CITIES AND COUNTIES ARE JOINING TOGETHER FOR A COUPLE DIFFERENT ACTIONS IN COORDINATION WITH, AND SORT OF LIKE SUPPLEMENTING AND, AND WORKING WITH THE, THE, THE STATES.
THE STATES ARE ALSO HAVE A, HAVE A LAWSUITS THAT WOULD ONE LOST IN TEXAS, BUT THERE'S ONE GOING ON IN, IN NEW JERSEY THAT'S RUN BY SEVERAL STATES.
UH, LOOKING AT ALL THE ACTIONS THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS TRYING TO DO RIGHT NOW AND TRYING TO STOP THAT BOTH IN, UM, UH, THE ICE MOVEMENT THAT, THAT, THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO.
THOSE ARE THE TWO AREAS THAT ARE BEING WORKED ON RIGHT NOW.
SO THOSE ARE THE TWO AREAS THAT, UH, THE LAWSUITS ARE INVOLVED WITH.
SO ANYWAY, SO WE HAVE, WE'RE VERY INVOLVED NOW, UM, WITH VARIOUS LEGAL ISSUES.
PRETTY, PRETTY KNEE DEEP IN THE WHOLE THING.
UM, THE HOTEL, UM, WE HAD TO CHANGE THE, UH, REGULATIONS ON THAT.
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APPARENTLY.THE, UH, THE REFERENDUM PUT US OUTTA SYNC BETWEEN ZONING AND ORDINANCES AND, AND GENERAL PLAN GOT OUTTA SYNC BECAUSE OF THE REFERENDUM.
AND THEN WE GOT SUED BECAUSE WE WERE OUTTA SYNC.
SO WE HAD TO BACKTRACK AND ACTUALLY PUT THINGS BACK IN SYNC, UH, WHICH WE DID.
UH, BUT HOPEFULLY THE LAWSUITS GOES AWAY.
AND ANYWAY, SO THE, UM, BUT AT THE MOMENT THAT'S, UM, WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS THERE.
BUT THAT'S, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH ANOTHER CYCLE.
OKAY? A NEW PLAN HAS TO BE PUT, PUT TOGETHER FOR THE FUTURE, UH, FOR THE HOTEL AND FOR THAT ENTIRE DOWNTOWN OR, UM, OVERLAY SYSTEM, WHICH IMPACTS THE PARKING DOWN THERE AND FUTURE APARTMENT DWELLINGS AND BUILDINGS.
SO WHATEVER HAPPENS DOWN THERE, BUT THE IMPLICATION IS FOR THE WHOLE GENERAL PLAN, IS THIS GONNA BE A BATTLE OR NOT? AND THIS IS WHERE WE MAY WANNA BE THINKING ABOUT HOW TO SUPPORT THE GENERAL PLAN AND, UM, UH, THAT, THAT GROUP AS WELL AS CITY COUNCIL, AS WHAT DIRECTION WE'RE GOING IN FOR BUILDINGS AND WHERE TO PUT BUILDINGS, THE LAND USES AND EVERYTHING.
'CAUSE THERE'S A HUGE CLIMATE ACTION COMPONENT TO ALL THAT.
SO YOU MAY WANT TO BE THINKING ABOUT JOINING IN ON, ON THOSE DISCUSSIONS.
UH, NEXT ONE, UH, WE JUST, UH, PUT A, UM, I GUESS A POSITIVE GO MOVE FORWARD ON THE FIRE AND POLICE STATION DOWN AT THE FAIRGROUNDS, WHICH WILL INCLUDE A, ALMOST A COMMUNICATIONS, UH, CENTER FOR, UH, UH, EVACUATION DISASTER TYPE, UM, CENTER.
UM, AND THEN DOWN THE ROAD WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A WHOLE RESILIENCY CENTER IN COMBINATION WITH OTHER THINGS THAT MAY BE DONE DOWN THERE.
SO THAT'S ANOTHER HUGE THING THAT WE JUST PASSED.
THAT'S GONNA BE A $90 MILLION PROJECT THAT THAT'S GONNA BE MOVING FORWARD.
HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT.
UH, COOL PETALUMA AND, UH, NO, BEFORE YOU GROW OR WE'RE BOTH STUDYING THE BOOK ABUNDANCE.
UH, JUST SO, AND I JUST DID A, UM, I DID SUMMARIES ON IT.
I WENT THROUGH, UH, AI SYSTEMS AND ASKED FOR SUMMARIES.
I ALSO ASKED FOR CURRENT CIVILIZATION THREATS TO OUR CURRENT HUMAN CIVILIZATION.
ASKED THE AI, OH, WHAT ARE THEY? AND, UM, WHAT ARE THE THREATS AND WHAT ARE THE SOLUTIONS? AND AI CAME UP WITH SOME REALLY NICE LIST OF, OF THREATS AND SOLUTIONS.
UH, AND NUMBER ONE, CLIMATE CHANGE IS BEING THE NUMBER ONE ON ITS LIST, SO WE'RE IN THE RIGHT SPOT FOR OUR ACTIONS.
UH, THERE, I DO HAVE A LIST IF EVERYONE WANTS TO SEE MY LIST OR LIKE ME SEND THEM THE ELECTRONIC VERSIONS.
I CAN DO THAT BOTH FOR THE ABUNDANCE BOOK AND FOR, UM, THE, UH, GLOBAL THREATS AND SOLUTIONS.
UM, NEXT ONE DOWN, THE, UM, UH, THE BAY AREA, UM, ASSOCIATION OF GOVERNMENTS ABA, UM, WHICH IS THE REGIONAL FOR THE WHOLE BAY AREA.
UH, JUST PUT, UH, PUBLISHED THEIR BLUEPRINT FOR 2050.
AND IN THERE IS ALL THE VARIOUS PROJECTS AND MONIES THAT ARE GONNA BE NEEDED BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.
AND WE'RE TALKING WELL OVER $200 BILLION TO, UH, FOR CLIMATE CHANGE ACTIONS, AS WELL AS, UH, FOR EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING NOW AND, AND HOW DO, WHAT DO WE WANNA DO ON OUR ENTIRE SYSTEM? IT'S A REALLY GOOD READ.
UM, UH, I'M RECOMMENDING YOU TAKE A LOOK AT, THERE'S JUST FOUR PAGES AGAIN, I BROUGHT, I BROUGHT A COPY WITH, I THINK I BROUGHT, DID I BRING A COPY WITH ME? OH, OH, I MISSED, MISSED THAT COPY.
ANYWAY, THERE IS A FOUR PAGES SUMMARY PAGE AT THE BEGINNING, PAGES THREE OR FOUR THROUGH EIGHT, UH, WHICH LISTS IN DIFFERENT CATEGORIES WITH ALL THE AMOUNTS OF MONEY THAT'S NEEDED IN EACH CATEGORY, AND IS DIRECTLY ALIGNED WITH OUR GENERAL PLAN UPDATE.
ALL THE PHILOSOPHY THAT WE HAVE IN OUR GENERAL PLAN IS PRETTY MUCH, I MEAN, THERE'S COMPLETE NSYNC COMPATIBILITY BETWEEN BAY AREA PLAN.
AND NOW OUR CITY PLAN ARE GONNA BE VERY NICELY TIED TOGETHER FOR, FOR SAME.
SO ANYWAY, JUST RECOMMEND YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
UM, IT, IT'S JUST CALLED THE, UH, THE ABA COMPENDIUM BLUEPRINT FOR 2050, AND YOU HAVE TO KINDA DIG TO FIND IT, BUT IF YOU WANT, WANNA KNOW, I, I'LL SEND YOU THE LINK IF YOU WANNA KNOW, UH, WHERE TO GET IT.
UM, THERE IS A, UH, GROUP THAT, THAT I'VE BEEN, UH, WORKING WITH AND TALKING TO, UH, IN THEIR ZOOM MEETINGS CALLED THE CLIMATE RESTORATION GROUP.
THAT'S A REGIONAL GROUP, NOT A CITY GROUP, BUT THIS IS A REGIONAL FOR THE WHOLE NORTH BAY.
AND IT'S A NATIONAL GROUP, UH, AND A COUPLE LOCAL FOLKS ARE INVOLVED IN IT.
AND THEY, THEY TAG ME AND SAYS, CAN YOU PLEASE, UH, COME IN AND, AND KIND OF VISIT WITH US? ANYWAY, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A, UM, UH, A VIDEO SHOWING ON CLIMATE RE RESTORERS ECOSYSTEM RESTORATION.
THERE'S GONNA BE A FILM, UH, THAT'S A SHOWING WITH THE, UH, FILMMAKERS AT THE POLY CLASS CENTER COMING UP ON SEPTEMBER 27TH.
UH, THERE'S ONLY 150 SEATS IN THE AUDIENCE.
UM, SO THERE, UH, I'VE GOT A LISTING THERE IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN, IN THAT.
I'VE GOT THE INFORMATION HERE AGAIN, OR JUST EMAIL ME THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN GOING TO SEE THE VIDEO ON S IT'S A SATURDAY, UH, BETWEEN ONE AND THREE AT POLY CLASS.
SO WITH, WITH THE, UM, THE DEVELOPERS OF THE FILM IN PRESENT, UH, TO, FOR DISCUSSIONS.
SO IT'S SEPTEMBER, IT'S 27TH, A SATURDAY, ONE TO 3:00 PM OKAY.
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UH, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, WE'VE RECEIVED LOTS OF, OF COMPLAINTS, UH, RECENTLY, UH, THROUGH TO CITY STAFF AND TO THE COUNCIL ABOUT E-BIKE SAFETY.UM, THAT, THAT'S, FOLKS ARE STARTING TO NOTICE THE CHANGES THAT ARE HAPPENING.
UH, LOTS OF RULES ARE BEING BROKEN.
UM, UH, THE POLICE ARE AWARE AND WORKING ON, EVEN THE POLICE CHIEF SAID HE WROTE THREE TICKETS TO, TO E-BIKE RIDERS
SO, UM, SO THERE IS THINGS GOING THERE, BUT THAT THERE'S A WHOLE AREA THERE, UH, THAT NEEDS TO BE WORKED ON.
I THINK, UH, THE CITY'S VERY AWARE OF IT.
AND IF THERE'S ANY HELP WE CAN DO WITH THE EV, UH, COMMITTEE AS PART OF THAT TO, UH, UH, WORK WITH THE CITY TO THAT WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD ON VARIOUS ISSUES OF REGULATIONS, SAFETY ENFORCEMENT, AS WELL AS, UH, ROADS, CONDITIONS, EVERYTHING.
SO THAT'S PART OF THAT DISCUSSION.
UM, NEXT ONE, I, UH, JUST FINISHED FOR, FOR MY PERSONAL, I JUST FINISHED MY A DU PROJECT OF PRODUCING VIDEOS ON HOW TO SET UP A, UH, AND GET GOING ON AN A DU AND THEN ALSO ALL THE CONSTRUCTION, INCLUDING ALL THE ELECTRIFICATION REQUIRED FOR THE A DU.
SO I JUST PUT TWO VIDEOS TOGETHER, THEY'RE ON YOUTUBE NOW.
I'VE SUBMITTED IT TO THE CITY AND TO THIS, UH, NAPA, SONOMA, A DU FOR THEM TO KIND OF REVIEW AND SEE IF THEY CAN USE IT.
AND ALSO, I WROTE A 10 PAGE ADVISORY PAGE FOR ANY A DU DEVELOPER, UH, PERSON, ANY HOMEOWNER THAT WANTS TO MAKE AN A DU, ESPECIALLY A GARAGE, A DU.
I HAVE A 10 PAGE DOCUMENT AND IT'S AI GENERATED, THREE PAGE SUMMARY,
AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE ME ON, ON THAT.
UM, ANYWAY, THAT'S, THAT'S MY LIST TO SHARE WITH YOU.
HOPEFULLY INTERESTED IN ANY OF THAT.
ANY OTHER COMMISSION COMMENT? MIN, UH, THANK YOU.
WELL, CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR A DU AND, UH, I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD ON THAT FOR A LONG TIME.
HOPEFULLY THAT WILL INSPIRE COUNCIL TO STREAMLINE THE PROCESS A BIT.
UH, YES, I, I'VE PUT A LOT OF ASSOCIATE ADVICE TO THE BUILDING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENTS.
AND IT TURNED TURNS OUT I JUST TALKED, ONE OF THE CANDIDATES THAT, THAT ARE APPLYING FOR THE, UH, ASSEMBLY SEAT COMING UP, UM, IS AN ARCHITECT WHO SPECIFICALLY WORKS IN A DU DEVELOPMENT.
OH, I, IF YOU WANT, I KNOW EXACTLY WHO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
WELL, UH, I DID WANNA JUST, UH, PREVIEW SOMETHING THAT, UH, WE HAD, WE TALKED ABOUT AS, AS A, UM, AS A POSSIBILITY FOR THIS COMMISSION MOVING FORWARD THE REST OF THE YEAR AND, AND HOPEFULLY NEXT, UH, IS THE, THE TOPIC OF STREAMLINING ITSELF.
UH, AND WHAT I'M HOPING TO DO, WORKING WITH THE CHAIR AND THE STAFF IS, UH, INVITE STAFF FROM THE CITY.
UH, I'VE ALREADY TALKED TO, UM, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO LIKE PUBLIC WORKS AND HAVE THEM HELP US UNDERSTAND WHAT ARE THE CITY IMPOSED RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT MAKE THEIR JOB HARDER TO ACHIEVE THEIR GOALS ON CLIMATE.
UH, THEY'RE A MYRIAD OF THESE KIND OF RULES WHERE THEY'RE WELL-INTENTIONED, THEY MAY EVEN HAVE AN IMPORTANT PURPOSE.
BUT IF WE'RE GONNA CLAIM THAT CLIMATE IS CLIMATE IS A CRISIS, THEN WE SHOULD PROBABLY RETHINK SOME OF THESE, UH, REGULATIONS.
AND, UH, WHAT I'M HOPING IS WORKING WITH STAFF IS TO COME UP WITH, UH, REPORT, HAVE, HAVE CITY STAFF COME TESTIFY TO US, UH, ABOUT THESE, UH, BARRIERS.
AND IN, IN TIME COME UP WITH TWO OR THREE, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE COUNCIL TO REMOVE THOSE OR, OR REFORM THEM.
UH, AND HAPPY TO TALK AFTER THIS ABOUT SPECIFICALLY WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT WHEN I, WHEN I SAY THESE REGULATIONS.
BUT, UH, THE STAFF, AS I'M SURE THEY CAN ATTEST TO RUN INTO THESE THINGS ALL THE TIME WHERE THEY WANNA DO SOMETHING, THEY WANNA DO SOMETHING FOR CLIMATE, AND WELL, YOU CAN'T 'CAUSE OF THIS REASON, OR IT TAKES SIX MONTHS, OR YOU NEED PUBLIC INPUT.
AND I'D LIKE TO THINK THAT WE COULD MAYBE DO A LITTLE BETTER THAN THAT.
SO HOPEFULLY, UH, WE CAN WORK TOGETHER AS A COMMISSION, COME UP WITH THESE RECOMMENDATIONS AND VOTE THEM OUT.
LIKE THIS WOULD BE, AGAIN, ONLY LIKE TWO OR THREE AT A TIME.
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO TACKLE 500 REGULATIONS AT ONCE.
BUT, UH, I WAS HOPING TO START WITH, UH, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND THEN, WHICH INCLUDES PLANNING, RIGHT? AND THEN PUBLIC WORKS.
SO FOR INSTANCE, YOU WANNA MAKE AN A DU IN YOUR HOUSE OUTTA YOUR HOUSE, WHICH IS SOMETHING WE KNOW COULD INCREASE DENSITY.
WELL, YOU BETTER GO THROUGH PLANNING FOR THAT.
AND THAT TAKES TIME, RIGHT? SO WE NEED TO THINK RETHINK OF HOW WE ALLOW CITIZENS TO TAKE CLIMATE ACTION ON THE PRIVATE LEVEL OR WHAT THE CITY DOES ITSELF THROUGH PUBLIC WORKS, AND FIGURE OUT HOW CAN WE MAKE IT EASIER, UH, FOR THEM TO ACHIEVE THEIR OWN GOALS.
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AND YEAH, SO I'M, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO, UH, UH, WORKING WITH ALL OF YOU ON THAT.ANY OTHER COMMENT? I HAVE ONE.
SO, AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, I'M ON THE BOARD OF THE PETALUMA MUSIC FESTIVAL.
WE HAD OUR EVENT ON THE JULY 26TH, AND, UH, WE PARTNERED WITH THE CITY AND WE ENDED UP USING 1800 PURPLE CUPS FOR BEER.
AND WE PURCHASED A LITTLE OVER 700 HARD, CLEAR PLASTIC, UH, CUPS THAT WE USED FOR WINE SALES AND FOR WINE IN OUR VIP TENT AREA.
SO IN, INSTEAD OF USING THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF PLASTIC DISPOSABLE BEER CUPS, UH, WE WERE ABLE TO USE THE, THE REUSABLES AND WE DID, UM, INCORPORATE SOME OF THE CONCEPTS THAT WE LEARNED DURING OUR AD HOC AND MEETING WITH THE GRAVENSTEIN APPLE PAIR FOLKS, THE SONOMA COUNTY FARM TRAILS.
AND, UM, WE KIND OF TWEAKED THE PROCESS OF PEOPLE RETURNING THEIR WASTE BACK AND HAVING VOLUNTEERS SORT IT.
SO WE PUT A TABLE IN BETWEEN OUR VOLUNTEERS AND OUR FAIR GO OR CONCERT GOERS, AND THEY LITERALLY SORTED THE TRASH.
SO THE, THE PEOPLE PUT THEIR WASTE ON THE TABLE, WE SORTED IT, WE ROTATED THOSE CANS THROUGHOUT THE DAY.
SO IT MADE THE FOLLOWING DAY A LOT EASIER INSTEAD OF HAVING, YOU KNOW, 50 DIFFERENT, UH, CONTAINERS TO, TO SORT THROUGH.
WE ONLY ENDED UP WITH ABOUT 20 OR SO.
UM, WE USED, UM, IGLOO COOLERS FOR THE MUSICIANS AND UH, UH, WE WERE ABLE TO, TO GIVE THEM, UH, STAINLESS STEEL BOTTLES TO USE.
SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO SQUEEZE AS MUCH PLASTICS AND, AND OTHER WASTE OUT OF THE SYSTEM.
SO IT WAS REALLY SUCCESSFUL AND THANKS TO THE CITY FOR, UH, USE OF NOT ONLY THE PURPLE CUPS, BUT THEIR WATER STATIONS THAT THEY PURCHASED FOR THE FAIR.
SO IN, IN YEARS PAST, WE HAD THESE GIANT WATER MONSTERS THAT HELD HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF GALLONS OF WATER THAT WE HAD TO DUMP PART OF IT AT ON THE FOLLOWING DAY.
SO IT WAS, YOU KNOW, A, A AS YOU AS YOU GO, YOU KNOW, SYSTEM.
SO WE ONLY USED THE WATER THAT WE ACTUALLY USED, AND THERE WAS NO WASTE THERE.
AND JUST TO ADD TO THAT, I WAS ONE OF THE FOLKS THAT DID THE WASTE MANAGEMENT FOR FOUR HOURS.
UH, SO I WAS THERE AND, UM, UH, IT WAS NOT EASY 'CAUSE SOME OF THE CUPS WERE LABELED COMPOSTABLE, BUT I COULD HAVE PUT 'EM IN THE OTHER NOT TRASH BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH, BECAUSE THE FOLKS AT THE RECYCLE CENTER CAN'T DIFFERENTIATE WHEN IT'S GOING DOWN VERY FAST DOWN THE LINE.
SO THERE, I LEARNED A LOT DOING IT, BUT WHAT I WAS REALLY, UH, SURPRISED AT IS HOW MANY FOLKS THANKED ME FOR HELPING DECIDE WHAT TO GO WHERE AND MAKE SURE EVERYTHING WENT IN THE CORRECT PLACE SO IT DIDN'T GET MIXED UP.
UM, JUST ABOUT HALF THE FOLKS, UM, WERE REALLY APPRECIATIVE OF HAVING THESE STATIONS.
SO THE MORE WE CAN DO LIKE THAT, UM, UH, THE, THE PUBLIC REALLY DID RESPOND VERY WELL TO, TO IT, SO I THOUGHT I'D JUST PUT THAT OUT THERE IN CASE.
SO WE WANNA DO IT AGAIN, PLEASE.
UM, YOU MENTIONED PERMITTING, DAVE, AND, UH, ONE RATHER UNFORTUNATE THING THAT HAPPENED THIS PAST WEEK IS THE STATE PASSED, UM, I GUESS SOME SORT OF RESOLUTION OR LEGISLATION THAT BASICALLY FREEZES THE FURTHER DEVELOPMENT OF RESIDENTIAL, UM, BUILDING CODES UNTIL 2031.
UM, SO WE ARE HALTED IN MANY WAYS ON FORWARD PROGRESS IN THAT REGARD.
THERE ARE SOME CAVEATS, UM, BUT APPARENTLY DIFFERENT INTERPRETATIONS OF THOSE.
THEY, IT WAS A MOTIVATED, PRESUMABLY TO FACILITATE FIRE REBUILDING IN LA.
UM, BUT IN MY VIEW AND VIEW OF A LOT OF THE CLIMATE FOLKS IN THE BUILDING SPHERE ARE VERY WRONGHEADED.
UM, ALSO, I WANNA LET YOU KNOW, DAVE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR, BUT, SO I TEACH A LOT OF CO CLASSES ABOUT BUILDING CODES.
UM, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S, UM, I, I DID A CLASS FOR SONOMA, UH, SILICON VALLEY CLEAN ENERGY A MONTH OR SO AGO, AND THEY HAVE A REALLY NICE PUBLICATION YOU SHOULD BE AWARE OF, CALLED ELECTRIC SERVICE OPTIMIZATION FOR BUILDING OFFICIALS.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING, YEAH, I MEAN, IT DOESN'T COVER EVERYTHING, OBVIOUSLY, BUT IT CERTAINLY HITS SOME OF THE SWEET SPOTS THERE, SO APPRECIATE THAT.
UM, I WENT TO THE COOL PETALUMA BUSINESS,
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UH, MEETING ON TUESDAY, AND THE TOPIC WAS TRANSPORTATION.SO HOW CAN WE FACILITATE CLEAN TRANSPORTATION FOR OUR CUSTOMERS AND OUR EMPLOYEES? UM, ALSO WENT TO THE REUSE HUB PREVIEW PARTY LAST NIGHT, WHICH WAS SUPER FUN.
UM, FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW, THE REUSE HUB, UM, IS GOING IN AT THE OUTLETS AND IT'S BASICALLY A PLACE THAT YOU CAN GO AND BRING YOUR STUFF AND HAVE EXPERTS THERE TO HELP YOU FIX IT.
SO YOUR VACUUM CLEANER'S NOT WORKING A FAN OR A LAMP, AND THEN THEY'RE SORT OF TINKERING, AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A TOOL LIBRARY, AND THEY'RE TINKERING AROUND WITH THE MODEL OF EXACTLY WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS GONNA WANT OUT OF IT.
BUT THE PURPOSE OF IT IS TO GET PEOPLE TO BE REUSING THINGS INSTEAD OF JUST THROWING 'EM AWAY AND BUYING A NEW ONE AT TARGET OR WHATEVER.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT DOING IS, SO IF YOU GO AND YOU FIX YOUR LAMP, BUT MAYBE YOU WANT A NEW LAMP, LIKE YOU CAN FIX YOUR LAMP AND THEN LIKE, LEAVE IT THERE AND THEN GET ANOTHER LAMP FROM THERE.
AND SO IT KIND OF LIKE A, UM, CONSIGNMENT MODEL IN A WAY.
UM, ON THAT NOTE, THEY'RE HAVING A REUSE BAZAAR AT THE SONOMA COUNTY FAIRGROUNDS ON SEPTEMBER 27TH.
AND SO PEOPLE CAN BRING THEIR STUFF, I THINK IT'S FROM LIKE EIGHT TO 11 IN THE MORNING.
YOU CAN BRING ALL THE STUFF THAT IS LIKE PERFECTLY GOOD, BUT YOU DON'T WANT IT ANYMORE.
AND THEN FROM 12 TO THREE YOU CAN LIKE GO SHOPPING AND JUST LIKE, TAKE THE STUFF THAT YOU WANT.
SO IT'S LIKE REUSABLE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LIKE KIND OF MIXING IT AROUND.
UM, ONE MAN'S TRASH IS ANOTHER MAN'S TREASURE.
UM, UH, A LITTLE, I LIKE NOTICE THAT, UM, I PROBABLY, SOME OF YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN THIS, BUT THERE'S A RECYCLING, PLASTIC RECYCLING FACILITY THAT'S, THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO PUT IN IN ROANOKE PARK AT SOMO VILLAGE.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF LIKE PUSHBACK ON IT FROM, FROM, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY ABOUT, UM, AIR QUALITY, LIKE TOXIN CONCERNS.
UM, SO THE, YOU KNOW, A BUNCH OF PEOPLE GOT TOGETHER AND WERE FIGHTING AGAINST IT, AND THEY, THEY, THEY WERE ABLE TO PUSH THE, UM, AIR QUALITY, UM, PEOPLE FROM PERMITTING IT, UM, FOR ANOTHER, I THINK IT'S THREE MONTHS.
AND SO IF ANYBODY'S PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN THAT, UM, WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS THEY'RE TAKING PLASTICS, UH, I THINK IT'S TWO, FOUR, AND FIVE, UM, AND TURNING 'EM INTO LIKE LITTLE PELLETS OR OILS FOR OTHER COMPANIES TO TURN INTO OTHER PLASTIC THINGS.
SO IT, IT SEEMS LIKE A GREAT THING, BUT THEN IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO CREDO HIGH SCHOOL.
AND SO A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED AND, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE WORK IN SOMA VILLAGE, AND SO PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED IF THERE'S LIKE SOME TOXIC OFF-GASSING THAT THAT MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, NOT THE RIGHT PLACE FOR IT.
SO THEY'RE, I, YEAH, I READ UP ON THIS.
IT'S A REALLY FASCINATING TOPIC 'CAUSE IT'S LIKE, IF WE DON'T DO THAT HERE, WHERE ARE WE RECYCLING PLASTIC? OBVIOUSLY IT'D BE GREAT TO MOVE AWAY FROM PLASTIC, BUT LIKE IF WE'RE NOT RECYCLING PLASTIC HERE AND THEY WANT TO USE MICROWAVE TECHNOLOGY RATHER THAN INCINERATING IT RIGHT.
OR MELTING IT WITH FIRE, THEY, THEY'RE USING MICROWAVE.
SO IT'S INTERESTING, IT'S USING ELECTRICITY, WHICH CAN BE AT LEAST DERIVED FROM THE SUN.
IT'S A FASCINATING, I I DON'T HAVE A GOOD ANSWER HERE, BUT YEAH.
I'M TRYING TO READ UP ON IT AND FORM MY OWN OPINION, BUT OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T WANT TOXIC AIR
BUT IT'S, YEAH, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF AN INTERESTING, IT'S IN OUR BACKYARD.
UH, CLIMATE LIKE PROBLEM BECAUSE THE, THE COMPANY IS TRYING TO DO A REALLY GOOD THING.
THEIR MISSION IS TO ACCELERATE THE WORLD'S TRANSITION TO A CIRCULAR ECONOMY.
SO THEIR MISSION IS SUPER ALIGNED MM-HMM
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, BUT THEN THERE'S THIS PUSHBACK 'CAUSE YOU ALSO DON'T WANNA BE POISONING THE AIR OF THE PEOPLE AROUND YOU.
SO IT'S KIND OF
OH, I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP, UM, ABOUT THE EVENTS.
I'M, I'M, A LITTLE BIRD TOLD ME THAT, UH, THERE'S A WORKSHOP THAT ZERO WASTE SONOMA IS GONNA BE PUTTING ON FOR EVENTS IN PETALUMA.
IS THAT, ISN'T THAT WHAT I HEARD TODAY? THERE'S SOME KIND OF LIKE, WORKSHOP HAPPENING FOR PEOPLE WHO RUN EVENTS IN PETALUMA TO HELP THEM FIGURE OUT BASICALLY HOW TO DO WHAT THE MUSIC.
I I WENT TO ONE OF THOSE WORKSHOPS UHHUH, UM, MONTHS AGO.
UH, AT THEIR FACILITY AT ECOLOGY IN SANTA ROSA, MIKE SIMPSON AND I WENT AGAIN.
PICK UP SOME MORE IDEAS FOR EVENTS, AND THERE WERE MAYBE ABOUT EIGHT OF US OR SO MM-HMM
THAT WERE INVOLVED IN LARGE EVENTS.
SO I THINK, I DIDN'T KNOW THEY WERE GONNA HAVE ONE HERE.
I THINK THEY'RE DOING IT AGAIN.
THE EMAIL WAS FROM MIKE SIMPSON SAYING WE SHOULD DO ONE HERE.
I SPACED OUT BECAUSE THIS HAPPENED YESTERDAY.
I WAS HELD UP IN SANTA ROSA AND, UM, THE WOMAN WHO PUT IT ON DAISY PIT LIDLE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, DPL STRATEGIES@GMAIL.COM,
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UM, THEY'RE GONNA BE DOING IT BIMONTHLY.SO ANYBODY WHO'S INTERESTED SHOULD SEND HER AN EMAIL AND GET ON THE LIST.
IT WAS A REALLY NICE GATHERING.
IT WAS AT, UM, SHADY OAKS BARREL ROOM AND THEY HAD A FOOD TRUCK.
AND JUST A REALLY FRIENDLY, DIVERSE CROWD OF FOLKS WHO ARE LIKE US.
SO, UM, ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO GET ON THAT LIST.
COULD I, COULD I JUMP IN? YES, OF COURSE.
I, I ACTUALLY WENT TO THE GEERS RECENTLY, LIKE A WEEK OR TWO AGO, AND IT WAS REALLY COOL TO SEE THE GEOTHERMAL ENERGY, 'CAUSE IT'S ONE OF THE, I THINK IT IS THE LARGEST GEOTHERMAL PLANT IN THE WORLD, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
THEY CLAIM THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY CLAIM, BUT IT'S, IT'S ONE OF THE LARGEST DEFINITELY.
I WOULD'VE THOUGHT IT WAS IN ICELAND.
AND I THINK THEY MAKE LIKE, IT'S LIKE AN INSANE AMOUNT OF ENERGY.
I THINK IT'S LIKE AROUND 45 MEGAWATTS AN HOUR OR SOMETHING.
I KNOW THERE'S A HUGE PERCENTAGE OF THE, THE YEAH.
EVERGREEN POWER THAT COMES FROM, FROM THERE, WHICH IS LIKE ALL OF SONOMA COUNTY.
'CAUSE GEOTHERMAL IS ONE OF THE CLEANEST ENERGIES WE HAVE.
AND ALSO I THINK, UH, SONOMA CLEAN POWER IS ALSO LOOKING TO DO MORE GEOTHERMAL THINGS IN THE FUTURE, LIKE NEW GEOTHERMAL TECHNOLOGY.
SO JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.
[STAFF COMMENT]
MOVE ON TO STAFF COMMENT.DURING STAFF COMMENT, STAFF WILL PROVIDE BRIEF UPDATES RELEVANT TO THIS COMMISSION.
DIALOGUE BETWEEN MEMBERS AND STAFF SHOULD BE LIMITED TO CLARIFYING QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS.
THERE SHOULD BE NO DIALOGUE BETWEEN MEMBERS.
THERE WILL BE NO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.
ACTUALLY, UM, JUST THINKING BACK TO COUNCIL MEMBER SCHIBS, UH, COMMENT ABOUT THE EXISTENTIAL THREATS AND INTERESTING THAT AI DIDN'T LIST AI AS A POTENTIAL
WELL, WE'LL, WE'LL TRY AND KEEP THAT IN MIND.
UM,
IT WAS, UH, 1,585 CUPS, UM, THAT WE WASHED.
THOUGH I SUSPECT THAT THERE WERE QUITE A FEW SOUVENIRS THAT WENT AWAY FROM THERE, SO WE WEREN'T, UH, CHECKING BAGS TO SEE IF THEY RETURNED THEIR PURPLE CUPS.
SO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE'LL CALL THE TIE ON THAT ONE, EVEN THOUGH OUR OFFICIAL NUMBERS ARE LOWER THAN YOURS.
BUT, UM, CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT REUSE.
UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING NEW THINGS, SEEING WHAT WORKS WELL.
UM, THE REFILL STATIONS WERE AMAZING.
WE HAVE IDEAS OF HOW TO IMPROVE THAT NEXT YEAR.
SO YEAH, I, I, I CAN JUST SEE THE, THE NUMBERS GOING UP IN, IN, IN TERMS OF REUSE NEXT YEAR.
UM, OF INTEREST TO THE COMMISSION, THE CITY IS A MEMBER OF A MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL LOCAL HAZARD MITIGATION PLAN.
UM, AND THEY'RE GETTING REALLY CLOSE TO THE DRAFT OF THAT, THAT'S GONNA BE RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC IN BOTH ENGLISH AND SPANISH.
AND I THINK THAT'S HAPPENING IN THE NEXT SEVERAL WEEKS.
UM, I THINK THE CONTRACTOR NEEDED TO BE REMINDED THAT IT NEEDED TO BE DONE IN SPANISH, SO THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT AVAILABLE NOW.
UM, BUT WE'LL SEND A MESSAGE OUT TO THE CAC, UM, WHEN THAT IS AVAILABLE.
'CAUSE I KNOW THERE WAS SOME INTEREST HERE ABOUT THAT.
UM, AND ON THAT, IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE CAN STILL, IT, WE'RE PARTICIPATING IN, IN A, A LARGER GROUP BECAUSE THERE'S A, AN ECONOMY OF SCALE BY DOING SO, BUT WE ALSO HAVE OPPORTUNITIES IN THE FUTURE TO TAILOR IT IF IT DOESN'T KIND OF, IF THE GENERIC DOCUMENT DOESN'T MATCH OUR SPECIFIC NEEDS.
AND THEN, UM, THERE WAS SOME TALK ABOUT THE GENERAL PLAN, UH, DURING THE DISCUSSION TODAY.
I JUST WANTED TO LET, UH, THE COMMISSION KNOW THAT THE NOTICE OF PREPARATION FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT ON THE GENERAL PLAN IS OUT.
UM, THE, THERE'S AN INITIAL COMMENT PERIOD ON THAT, AND THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT ALL EIR DO, UM, WHERE IT'S LIKE, IS THE SCOPE LARGE ENOUGH ON THIS? DID IT COVER ALL THE THINGS? SO IT'S KIND OF THE FIRST, EVEN THOUGH WE'VE HAD THE VERY PUBLIC PROCESS THIS WHOLE TIME ON THE EIR, IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE FIRST TIME TO GET YOUR COMMENTS IN ON THAT.
THERE'LL BE MANY MORE OPPORTUNITIES AS THAT EIR IS DEVELOPED, BUT THAT, UH, INITIAL COMMENT PERIOD IS AUGUST 8TH THROUGH SEPTEMBER 8TH, AND YOU CAN FIND LINKS TO THE GENERAL PLAN AND THE GENERAL PLAN WEBSITE ON THE CITY'S, UM, HOMEPAGE.
UM, AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE, UM, WHAT,
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UM, COMMISSIONER EDM MINSTER SAID ABOUT, UM, REACH CODES AND, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THINGS GETTING STYMIED A LITTLE BIT UNDER THE PRETENSE OF HELPING REBUILD, UM, EFFICIENCY IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, THE STATEWIDE, UM, UH, KIND OF PROHIBITION ON, ON REACH CODES, UM, OR BOTH FROM THE ENERGY SIDE AND THE FIRE SIDE.WE'RE AWARE OF THE ISSUE, WE'RE TRACKING IT.
UM, WE HAVE SOME IDEAS, UM, ABOUT THAT, UM, THAT MAY ALLOW US TO PRESERVE OPTIONS AROUND ALL ELECTRIC, UM, THAT, UM, ARE, YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING WITH OUR PEERS TO SEE HOW, HOW SOUND THOSE ARE.
UM, BUT THERE'S, THERE'S DEFINITELY IDEAS.
AND IF THAT IS STILL THE INTEREST OF COUNCIL, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE PRESERVE THAT ITEM OR THAT, UM, THAT ISSUE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE FOR THEM TO CONSIDER.
SO WE ARE AWARE WE'RE WORKING ON IT, AND I'M ACTUALLY A LITTLE HOPEFUL ABOUT IT.
SO, UM, YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S ABOUT ALL I CAN SAY AT THIS POINT.
BUT THAT'S ALL THE COMMENTS I HAD.
DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD, DEB? UM, I JUST, A COUPLE, UH, WANTED TO REPORT THAT, UH, AUGUST 1ST.
UH, WE HAD HERE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS, ALL OF THE PETALUMA CITY SCHOOLS, ADMINISTRATORS AND PRINCIPALS COMING THROUGH AS PART OF THEIR BACK TO SCHOOL.
UH, THEY DO A SCAVENGER HUNT AND THEY'RE IN SMALL GROUPS, SO 60 PRINCIPALS AND ALL OF THE, UH, UH, COUNSELING STAFF AND THE SENIOR STAFF AT THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE CAME THROUGH AND WE TALKED ABOUT CLIMATE ACTION, UH, AS THEY CAME THROUGH HERE AND, UH, BROUGHT THEM INTO CHAMBERS.
AND MY FIRST QUESTION TO EVERYONE WAS, HAVE YOU EVER BEEN IN HERE? UH, AND, UH, REALLY GOT SOME GOOD INSIGHTS ABOUT HOW, AND WAS ABLE TO SHARE, PLEASE COME, PLEASE HAVE YOUR KIDS COME.
THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CIVIC ENGAGEMENT.
AND ANYWAY, SO IT WAS REALLY FUN.
UH, AND, UH, I HAVE, UH, WE'RE GONNA BE MEETING WITH, UH, PETALUMA SEED SCHOOLS AS THEY'RE WORKING ON, YOU KNOW, THEY APPROVED, AS I MENTIONED A FEW MEETINGS AGO, THEIR CLIMATE ACTION RESOLUTION.
AND SO I'M GONNA BE MEETING, UH, UH, WITH LEADERSHIP, UH, IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS TO REALLY START GETTING THAT, UH, FORMULATED AND WHAT THAT STARTS TO LOOK LIKE.
UM, ALSO WANTED TO MENTION ON THE COUNTY SIDE, I, I CAN'T REMEMBER IF I'VE ALREADY SAID THIS.
WE'RE WORKING ON A REGIONAL, UH, CLIMATE PROJECT PRIORITIZATION, UH, SO THAT WE'RE WORKING AS A REGION TO APPLY FOR FUNDS THAT ARE GONNA BE RELATED TO PROP FOUR AND ANY OTHER DOLLARS REALLY.
UM, AND SO THAT'S GONNA BE HAPPENING IN EARLY SEPTEMBER.
IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE END OF AUGUST, BUT WE PUSHED IT OUT TO EARLY SEPTEMBER.
AND SO THAT'S ALL THE JURISDICTIONS GETTING TOGETHER AND SAYING, HERE'S ALL THE PROJECTS WE HAVE GOING ON.
DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING SIMILAR AND OR WANNA WORK ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS SO THAT WE CAN APPLY AS, UH, MULTIPLE JURISDICTIONS, UH, FOR FUNDS IN PARTICULAR.
UM, I THOUGHT I WOULD MENTION THAT NEXT, UH, TUESDAY OR NEXT WEDNESDAY'S TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UH, IS A GOOD ONE.
UH, THE URBAN FORESTRY MANAGEMENT PLAN IS BEING, UH, BROUGHT TO THAT.
AND SO IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THAT, UH, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND, UH, ATTENDING.
I THINK THAT IS, I'M ON THE WRONG DATE.
THAT IS, UH, NEXT WEDNESDAY AT, I THINK IT LOOKS LIKE FOUR O'CLOCK.
UM, SO, UH, MENTION THAT AND WHERE, UH, HERE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
UM, AND I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE, UH, FOR NOW.
ALL RIGHT, WITH THAT, WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 7 49.