* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. THANK YOU. I WANT [00:00:01] TO CALL TO ORDER [CALL TO ORDER] THIS MEETING OF THE PETALUMA TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON AUGUST 20TH, 2025. AND WE WILL START THE MEETING [ROLL CALL] WITH ROLL CALL. OKAY. CHINTILLY OBEYED HERE. KUSON HERE. VER HERE. SANCHEZ HERE. BERTELLI HERE. THANK YOU. AND A QUICK REMINDER TO OUR NEW MEMBERS ABOUT MAKING SURE YOUR MIC IS ON WHEN WE SPEAK AT THE MEETING, JUST SO EVERYBODY CAN HEAR US IN THE ROOM AND ONLINE. AND SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO BRING THE MIC CLOSE. THAT'S WHY YOU MIGHT NOTICE I'M ALWAYS HOLDING IT RIGHT NEXT TO MY FACE. I FIND THAT HELPS A LOT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE CAN HEAR YOU. UH, SO OUR NEXT ITEM IS TO HAVE THE CITY, CITY CLERK SWEAR IN OUR NEWLY APPOINTED MEMBERS, DIANE, GEN GENTILLY, AND STEPHANIE SANCHEZ. SO I'LL HAND IT OVER TO THE CLERK. UH, SO EXCITED TO BE HERE. UM, I'M GOING TO DO THE SWEARING IN. AND I ALSO, I THINK THIS IS ALWAYS JUST A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, THANK THE, THE NEW MEMBERS AND, AND THE LONG-TERM MEMBERS FOR THE SERVICE THAT YOU DO TO THE CITY. WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. AND SO I LOVE COMING IN TO SWEAR NEW FOLKS IN. SO IF I COULD HAVE THE TWO NEW MEMBERS JOIN ME IN FRONT OF THE PODIUM. I'LL BRING THE MIC SO WE CAN HEAR YOU RIGHT HERE. , I THINK YOU GUYS CAN EDIT. SO IF YOU COULD, WE'LL JUST DO IT TOGETHER. IF YOU GUYS TRY TO DO IT IN UNISON, YOU RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND OR REPEAT AFTER ME. I STATE YOUR NAME. DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR I DIANE GENTIL. I DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR. I STEPHANIE SANCHEZ DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR. OKAY. THAT I WILL SUPPORT AND DEFEND THAT I'LL SUPPORT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES. THE CONSTITU, THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, THE CHARTER OF THE CITY OF PETALUMA, THE CHARTER OF THE CITY OF PETALUMA, THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AGAINST ALL ENEMIES, FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC, AGAINST ALL ENEMIES, FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC. THAT I WILL BEAR TRUE FAITH AND ALLEGIANCE. THAT I WILL BEAR TRUE FAITH AND ALLEGIANCE TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES. TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES. THE CHARTER OF THE CITY OF PETALUMA, THE CHARTER OF THE CITY OF PETALUMA, AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. AND I TAKE THIS OBLIGATION FREELY, THIS OBLIGATION FREELY WITHOUT ANY MENTAL RESERVATION, RESERVATION OR PURPOSE OF EVASION OR PURPOSE OF EVASION. AND THAT I WILL, WELL AND FAITHFULLY. FAITHFULLY WILL WELL IS TRICKY. , UH, DISCHARGE THE DUTIES. DISCHARGE THE DUTIES UPON WHICH I'M ABOUT TO ENTER UPON WHICH I'M ABOUT TO ENTER. ENTER. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAKE THANK YOU CAITLIN. AND YES, CONGRATULATIONS AND WELCOME ABOARD TO OUR NEW MEMBERS. WE ARE VERY HAPPY TO HAVE YOU WITH US. SO MOVING IN FROM SWEARING IN SOME NEW TEAM MEMBERS HERE, UH, WE WILL GO RIGHT INTO GENERAL [GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT] PUBLIC COMMENT DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON ITEMS OF PUBLIC INTEREST WITHIN TREE COMMITTEE SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION THAT ARE NOT LISTED ON THE CURRENT AGENDA. AND I DON'T HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS HERE. I DON'T SEE ANYONE RUSHING TO GRAB SPEAKER CARDS. I DO SEE A HAND UP. SO I WOULD INVITE YOU TO COME UP FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. AND WOULD YOU BE OKAY WITH SUBMITTING A SPEAKER CARD AFTERWARDS? THEY'RE RIGHT OUTSIDE THE DOOR HERE, BUT WE CAN DO THAT ONCE YOU GIVE YOUR COMMENT. AND WHILE YOU'RE COMING UP TO THE PODIUM, I'LL ASK THE CLERK, DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS ONLINE PRIOR TO THE MEETING FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT? NO. GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. TERRIFIC. ALRIGHT, THEN WE'LL TURN THE FLOOR OVER TO OUR IN-PERSON SPEAKER. I NEED TO PUSH SOMETHING. AM I ALL RIGHT? YOU'RE GOOD. JUST UP. I SEE. THERE WE GO. OKAY. MY NAME IS CHARLES LITTLE AND I'D LIKE TO MAKE A COUPLE OF QUICK COMMENTS ON BEHALF OF RELIEF. UH, BASICALLY WE WANT TO THANK PEOPLE. WE WANT TO THANK THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR HOSTING THIS PRESENTATION TODAY FOR ALL THE WORK AND EXPERTISE THAT YOU'RE CONSTANTLY BRINGING TO OUR, OUR WORK WITH THE TREES IN PETALUMA. WE APPRECIATE THAT A GREAT DEAL. AND WE ALSO WANT TO THANK GHISLAINE FOR BRINGING ALL THE DATA, THE ANALYSIS AND, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT, WHICH SHE IS SOLICITING, [00:05:01] WHICH I THINK IS VERY HELPFUL FOR US. THIS IS, UM, ALSO HER EXPERTISE IN THIS KIND OF WORK IN MANY OTHER CITIES. SO IT'S A VERY VALUABLE FOR US. UH, LASTLY, THE, UH, WHAT DO WE CALL IT? OUR, NOT THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, THE TASK FORCE THAT WORKS WITH THE URBAN FOREST MANAGEMENT PLAN TO KEEP IT BUMPING ALONG. AND I THINK WE'VE DONE A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF KEEPING THINGS MOVING, AND I THINK WE'RE IN A PRETTY GOOD PLACE AT THIS POINT. WHICH BRINGS ME TO THE LAST THING, WHICH IS AN INVITATION AFTER THIS MEETING TODAY, WE'D LIKE TO INVITE ANYONE, EVERYONE TO COME AND JOIN US OVER IN THE, UH, MANAGERS, THE, UH, CITY MANAGER'S, UH, ROOM THERE, WHATEVER KIND OF ROOM YOU CALL IT, SORRY. AND, UH, HAVE SOME DRINKS, SOME SOFT DRINKS. WE HAVE SOME SNACKS. AND WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT WHERE WE GO FROM HERE, WHAT WE THINK ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON, THE KIND OF CONVERSATION THAT WE MIGHT NORMALLY HAVE STANDING IN TWOS OR THREES, UH, BY OUR CARS OR BY OUR BICYCLES OR STANDING UNDER A TREE PERHAPS. UH, SO MAYBE WE COULD BRING THAT TOGETHER WHERE WE COULD HEAR EACH OTHER IN OUR, OUR RESPONSES AND OUR THOUGHTS GOING FORWARD. THAT'D BE ROUGHLY FIVE O'CLOCK. AND WE'RE ALL SET UP. WE'RE THERE. THANK YOU Q TERRIFIC. THANK YOU MR. LITTLE FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. AND I DON'T THINK I COULD HAVE DONE A BETTER TEE UP HERE FOR OUR PRESENTATION. SO MOVING, I WILL CLOSE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT AND I WILL MOVE RIGHT INTO OUR PRESENTATIONS. [PRESENTATIONS] UM, AS MR. LITTLE SAID, WE ARE EXCITED TO HAVE CLEAN FROM URBAN ECOS HERE TO GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE URBAN FOREST MANAGEMENT PLAN. SO COLLEEN, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO YOU FOR WHENEVER YOU'RE READY. ALRIGHT. UM, DO YOU, DO YOU ALL HAVE, YOU CAN SEE ON YOUR OWN SCREENS WHAT, WHAT I'M SHOWING UP ON THE WALL. OKAY, GOOD. SO AGAIN, MY NAME IS KALA RADEN. MY, UH, CONSULTING COMPANY, URBAN ECOS, WAS GIVEN THE TASK OF HELPING PETALUMA DEVELOP THE URBAN FOREST MANAGEMENT PLAN. SO FOR THE NEW PEOPLE ON THE, ON THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, THAT'S A 30 ISH YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN TO, UH, OH, THAT'S HOW, THERE WE GO. THAT'S, UH, THAT'S MUCH BETTER. 30 ISH YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE CARE AND MAINTENANCE AND PLANTING OF PETALUMA'S URBAN FOREST. HOW WILL WE RUN IT? HOW MANY TREES WILL WE PLANT? HOW WILL WE TAKE CARE OF THEM? HOW WILL WE REACH OUT TO THE PUBLIC? ALL OF THAT KIND OF THING. SO I'VE SPOKEN BEFORE THIS GROUP TWICE. UM, AND TODAY MY TOPIC IS THE RECENT CANOPY COVER ANALYSIS. SO ONE PIECE OF THE URBAN FOREST MANAGEMENT PLAN IS GETTING, IS GATHERING YOUR EXISTING DATA. UM, ONE THING WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME WE WERE TOGETHER WAS AN ON THE GROUND INVENTORY OF PARK TREES AND A RANDOM SAMPLE INVENTORY OF THE CITY STREET TREES. SO WE CAN COME BACK TO THAT OR ANYTHING ELSE AT A DIFFERENT MEETING TODAY. THE CANOPY ANALYSIS LOOKS NOT AT THOSE PUBLIC TREES, BUT AT THE WHOLE URBAN FOREST AS A WHOLE. SO IT'S DONE USING AERIAL IMAGERY, UH, MACHINE LEARNING, LIDAR, ALL THOSE BUZZWORDS TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE TREES ARE IN THE CITY. UM, AND I'LL GET A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DEPTH ABOUT THAT. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE WHOLE THING AS A WHOLE, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS SORT OF LARGER TOP DOWN PICTURE BIRD'S EYE VIEW. SO WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT KINDS OF TREES THEY ARE. WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING NECESSARILY ABOUT HOW HEALTHY THEY ARE. WE'RE JUST LOOKING HERE AT SORT OF GEOGRAPHIC INFORMATION AND, UM, TRYING TO GET A PICTURE OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AS A WHOLE, BECAUSE WE CAN'T REALLY SEE INTO PEOPLE'S BACKYARDS, FOR INSTANCE. SO WHEN WE DO A CANOPY ANALYSIS, THIS IS BEING DONE BY A THIRD PARTY, SO THIS IS MY INTERPRETATION OF THEIR RESULTS. YOU GET AN AERIAL IMAGE AND THE VERY FIRST THING YOU DO IS DIVIDE THE LAND INTO DIFFERENT CO DIFFERENT LAND COVER TYPES. SO HERE THE GRAY IS IMPERVIOUS SURFACE, THE DARK GREEN OR TREES THAT LIMEY GREEN IS VEGETATION, THAT'S NOT TREES. UM, THE PINKY COLOR, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT HARDER TO SEE, IS, UH, THE PEACHY COLOR IS SHRUBS. AND THOSE ARE SORT OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ONES. THERE'S ACTUALLY, YOU SEE THOSE BASEBALL FIELDS ON THE TOP? THOSE ARE THE BROWN. THE BROWN IS DRY SOIL IS SOIL OR DRY VEGETATION. IT'S A VERY SMALL PART OF THE CITY. IT'S USUALLY ATHLETIC FIELDS, UM, AGRICULTURE AND LAND THAT'S BEING PREPARED FOR ITS DEVELOPMENT. SO, SO THEN THE CANOPY ANALYSIS TAKES THAT INFORMATION AND IT GIVES US A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF THINGS. IT TALKS ABOUT THE TREE CANOPY, UH, AND PERCENTAGE TERMS, LIKE HOW MUCH IS THE, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH OF THE CITY IS COVERED BY TREES? IT COMPARES THE PRESENT WITH THE PAST. SO TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF A STEP BACK. UM, THE DATA THAT'S USED IS FROM 2022 THAT THOSE PLANES ARE FLOWN EVERY TWO YEARS. SO THERE WAS A PLANE FLOWING, FLYING OVER CALIFORNIA IN 2024. THAT DATA HAS NOT BEEN CLEANED UP YET SUFFICIENTLY. SO WE HAD TO GO BACK TO THE 2022 DATA. THE SAD PART ABOUT THAT RELIEF, I APOLOGIZE, IS THAT THE TREES THAT THEY'VE WORKED SO HARD TO PLANT IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS DO NOT MAKE IT INTO THIS ANALYSIS. AT THE SAME TIME, THEY'RE SMALL ENOUGH THAT THEY PROBABLY WOULDN'T REALLY SHOW UP IN AN AERIAL IMAGE [00:10:01] ANYWAY. SO WE'VE GOT 2022 AS OUR PRESENT, AND THEN WE WANTED TO COMPARE IT TO SOMETHING IN THE PAST. AND WE LOOKED 2016, AND THAT'S THE MOST DISTANT YEAR WHERE THE DATA WAS COLLECTED IN THE SAME WAY, SO THAT I FELT CONFIDENT WE WERE COMPARING APPLES TO ORANGES. WE CAN SEE WHAT'S HAPPENED OVER THAT SIX YEAR PERIOD. AND THEN THE LAST THING THAT THIS COMPANY DOES FOR US IS TRY TO IDENTIFY POTENTIAL PLANTABLE SPACE. AND I'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT IN JUST A SECOND. BUT THE OTHER THING TO NOTE IS THAT WITHIN THOSE THREE CATEGORIES, THE DATA ARE BROKEN DOWN INTO DIFFERENT, THEY CALL THEM LIKE GEOGRAPHIES. SO WE LOOKED AT THE CITY AS A WHOLE AND THEN WE COMPARED THE TREE CANOPY ON PUBLIC LAND VERSUS PRIVATE LAND, UM, BY CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT, THESE NEW VOTING DISTRICTS THAT ARE NEW TO PETALUMA BY CENSUS TRACTED. UM, ACCORDING TO THE DIFFERENT LAND USES, WE BROKE OUT THE RIGHT OF WAY, WHICH IS ONE I'M NOT FEELING GREAT ABOUT DATA WISE, BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE ONES WE CHOSE. AND THEN THESE HEXAGONS, AND I'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT AT THE END. SO BASICALLY YOU HAVE THESE SEVEN GEOGRAPHIES, THOSE THREE CATEGORIES. SO YOU HAVE THIS MULTIPLE COMBINATION OF THREE TIMES SEVEN. SO FOR INSTANCE, THIS IS JUST A QUICK ONE. UM, THIS IS THE TOTAL PLANTABLE SPACE BY VOTING DISTRICT, OR THIS ONE IS THE CANOPY COVER CHANGE BY, UH, CENSUS TRACT. SO THIS DATA, THIS GIS DATA WILL BE GIVEN TO THE CITY TO PRESENT ON THEIR WEBSITE AS THEY PLEASE. AND THIS INFORMATION WILL BE PRESENTED IN A, IN A DOCUMENT THAT'S AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE. SO, I'M SORRY, THIS IS, OR THIS IS ACTUAL DATA AT THIS POINT? YEAH. WHAT, WHY AM I NOT CLICKING FOR IT HERE? THERE WE GO. SO JUST SOME BRIEF DATA HERE. UM, THE CITY OF PETALUMA ACTUALLY HAS A KIND OF, THIS IS ACTUALLY ABOUT AN AVERAGE AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS SURFACE. IT'S ABOUT HALF OF THE CITY. SO IMPERVIOUS SURFACE IS THOSE HARDSCAPES THAT WATER CAN'T SEEP INTO BUILDINGS, SIDEWALKS, PARKING LOTS, ROADS, UM, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. VERY VALUABLE PLANTING SPACES, BUT HARD TO PLANT IN, RIGHT? YOU GOTTA DIG UP THAT CONCRETE BEFORE YOU CAN PLANT SOMETHING IN IT. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S A VERY VALUABLE PLACE TO PUT A TRAIT. UM, THE CANOPY COVER IN 2022 WAS ABOUT 14.4%. THIS IS EXACTLY THE CALIFORNIA URBAN AVERAGE. SO RIGHT SMACK IN THE MIDDLE OF, UH, OF EVERYBODY. SO THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS HERE. UM, LOOKING AT CANOPY CHANGE FOR THE CITY AS A WHOLE, FOUND A SMALL INCREASE OF ABOUT 159 ACRES OF TREES. AND THAT'S ABOUT A, WE CALL THIS A RAW CHANGE OF 1.8%. SO IT WENT FROM 12.6 TO 14.4, A RELATIVE CHANGE OF 14%. IT'S SUPER COMPLICATED TO TALK ABOUT PERCENTAGES AND CHANGES IN PERCENTAGES. AND, UM, RECENTLY RAN INTO CAL FIRE, WHO'S OUR FUNDER FOR THIS PROJECT. THE CALIFORNIA, I, I'M NEVER QUITE SURE WHO KNOWS WHAT. SO THAT'S THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF FORESTRY AND FIRE PROTECTION. THERE ARE STATE FORESTERS HAVE PASSED, HELPS PASS LEGISLATION ENCOURAGING CALIFORNIA CITIES TO INCREASE THEIR TREE CANOPY COVERED BY 10% BY 2030. AND I SAID, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? DOES IT MEAN FROM 14% TO 24% OR DOES IT MEAN FROM 14% TO 15.6%? THE LEGISLATION DOES NOT SAY. SO I CALLED THEM AND THEY SAID, WE MEAN FROM 14% TO 15.6%. UM, SO THOUGH WE HAD A, A SMALL INCREASE OVERALL THAT IS COMPOSED OF INCREASES IN SOME PLACES AND DECREASES IN THE OTHER, RIGHT? WE HAD A NET GAIN, BUT TREES WERE LOST IN SOME PLACES AND GAINED IN OTHERS. SO THIS, I ASKED THIS COMPANY IF THEY COULD HELP ME SORT OF HONE IN ON WHAT THE PROBLEM, LIKE WHERE THESE THINGS WERE HAPPENING. SO THE BIG EXAMPLES OF CANOPY LOSS SEEM TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH DEVELOPMENT. THE TOP PICTURES ARE 2016 AND THE BOTTOM PICTURES ARE 2022. AND AGAIN, THIS WILL BE IN THE ACTUAL REPORT. I KNOW IT'S NOT VERY EASY TO READ HERE, BUT THE ONE ON THE LEFT, THAT'S THE EXPANSION OF 1 0 1. SO IT JUST WIPED OUT THAT WHOLE LONG STRIP OF TREES THERE. THE ONE IN THE MIDDLE IS AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, AND YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE THESE LITTLE PODS. AND IN THE TOP POD THERE'S SIX, I MEAN, THE TOP PICTURE, THERE'S 16 LITTLE PODS AND SOME TREES. AND THEN IN THE BOTTOM PICTURE, YOU SEE, THEY BASICALLY DOUBLED THE NUMBER OF LITTLE APARTMENT PODS AND THE TREES WENT TO MAKE ROOM FOR ADDITIONAL HOUSING. AND THEN IN THAT PICTURE ON THE RIGHT, APPARENTLY THIS SPOT HAS UNDERGONE MORE THAN ONE CHANGE. BUT I BELIEVE IN THE TOP, THIS WAS THE SILK. IT WAS A, A MANUFACTURING FACILITY, WHICH ONLY NEEDED ENOUGH PARKING FOR EMPLOYEES. AND THEN IN THE BOTTOM IT'S TRANSITIONED TO A HOTEL, AND NOW YOU NEED A HOTEL'S WORTH OF PARKING. AND THE TREES WERE REMOVED TO MAKE SPACE FOR THAT. ON LAKEVILLE, ON LAKE, ON LAKEVILLE, THE MILL. YES. THE SILK MILL. YES. TRAIN STATION. RIGHT. SO THAT'S THE, THE LOSS APPEARS TO BE MOSTLY ASSOCIATED WITH THESE LARGER DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. [00:15:01] THE GAIN IN CONTRAST SEEMS MOSTLY TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH NATURAL REGENERATION AND TREE GROWTH IN THE MORE NATURALIZED AREA. SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW, I KIND OF CAN POINT, BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT BASICALLY THESE SPACES HAVE FILLED IN, THE TREES HAVE GOTTEN BIGGER AND SOME NEW ONES HAVE GROWN. SO THE, THE GAIN SEEMS MOSTLY TO BE HAPPENING IN A, IN THESE NATURAL SYSTEMS. UM, AND I'M GONNA JUST PULL THIS ONE FROM LATER IN THE REPORT. SO THIS IS CAN CANOPY COVER CHANGE BY LAND USE. AND, UM, WE CAN SEE THAT THERE'S JUST A TINY BIT OF AGRICULTURE WITHIN THE, THAT'S ZIP CODE THAT'S, UH, GOT A LAND USE OF, OF, OF AGRICULTURE IN THE CITY. SO EVEN THOUGH THAT ONE SHOWS LIKE A SLIGHTLY MINUS, IT'S, IT'S NEGLIGIBLE. UM, BUT THIS SUGGESTS THAT THE LARGEST INCREASES IN TREES HAVE BEEN IN THAT GREEN SPACE. SO THAT'S OPEN SPACE PLUS PARKS AND IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS. SO THE NEXT PIECE OF THIS WAS A POTENTIAL CANOPY ANALYSIS. AND THIS, I JUST WANNA SAY IT'S KIND OF NEAT, BUT IT IS IN A LOT OF WAYS SIMPLISTIC BECAUSE THE DATA THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS THIS BROAD AERIAL BIRD'S EYE VIEW DOWN. SO WHAT THEY DID TO FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH SPACE WAS AVAILABLE FOR TREES, THEY MASKED OFF ALL THE IMPERVIOUS AREA. I'M GONNA COME BACK TO THAT. SO REMEMBER THAT THEY MASKED OFF THE THINGS THAT WERE BARE SOIL. SO THAT WAS MOSTLY AGRICULTURE AND MOSTLY LANDS SLATED FOR DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN THEY'VE ALSO MASKED OFF THESE AREAS WHERE THE, WHERE THERE'S REGULAR VEGETATION, BUT THERE'S A LAND USE THAT'S NOT COMPATIBLE WITH TREES. LIKE IN THIS PICTURE IS VERY CLEAR, THOSE BALL FIELDS. AND THEN BASICALLY THEY SAID IN THEORY, EVERYTHING ELSE IS A PLACE WHERE YOU COULD PLANT A TREE. AND SO IF YOU DO THIS MATH IMPERVIOUS SOIL PLUS BARE SOIL PLUS UNSUITABLE VEGETATION GIVES YOU UNSUITABLE URBAN TREE CANOPY, WHICH THEY THOUGHT TOOK UP ABOUT 62% OF THE CITY. WE HAVE AN EXISTING 14% CANOPY LEAVES ABOUT IN THEIR MIND, IN THEORY, 24% AVAILABLE FOR A POSSIBLE TOTAL OF UP TO 38%. LITERALLY YOU PLAN EVERY SQUARE FOOT THAT YOU COULD. NOW YOU CAN'T DO THAT. IT'S NOT POSSIBLE FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS. SO ONE THING I WANTED TO EMPHASIZE HERE IS WHAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THAT SUITABLE PLANTING AREA IS THINGS LIKE THIS GIANT PARKING LOT. BUT THAT'S A PLACE WHERE MORE THAN ANYTHING, WE PROBABLY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MORE TREES. SO WE NEED TO BUMP THE NUMBER UP IN SOME SENSES FOR THAT BECAUSE WE WANT TO KEEP IN OUR MINDS THAT THESE IMPERVIOUS SURFACES ARE GREAT PLACES FOR TREES. UM, WHAT IS INCLUDED IN THAT 38% IS OPEN SPACE. AND THAT'S A LOT OF, THAT'S LAND. THAT IS TO SOME EXTENT IN ITS NATURAL FORM, RIGHT? THIS IS THE NATURAL PETALUMA LANDSCAPE OF OAK WOODLANDS, ROLLING GRASSLANDS WITH SPARSE TREES SCATTERED AROUND IT. SO WHILE THIS NUMBER IS A NUMBER THAT WE HAVE, IT DOESN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE CONDITIONS THAT ARE LOCAL TO PETALUMA. SO IF THIS WAS A PICTURE FROM MARYLAND AND YOU HAD THIS BIG GRASSY FIELD WHERE PEOPLE ARE USING FOR RECREATION, I WOULD SAY COVERED IN TREES 200 YEARS AGO, IT WAS COVERED IN TREES. IF YOU STOP MOWING THE GRASS, IT WILL BE COVERED IN TREES IN 50 YEARS. BUT THAT IS NOT THE LANDSCAPE OF PETALUMA. SO IF WE FILLED IN ALL THE OPEN SPACE AND WE FILLED UP ALL THOSE PERCENTAGES, WE WOULD HAVE A EAST COAST FOREST THAT WOULD NOT BE NATURAL AND IT WOULD NOT REALLY WORK ANYWAY. SO WE'RE GONNA KEEP THOSE KINDS OF CAUTIONS IN OUR MIND AND GO BACK TO THE DATA. SO I SAID THAT THERE WERE THOSE SEVEN GEOGRAPHIES. SOME OF THEM HAVE POLITICAL RELEVANCE, LIKE THE VOTING DISTRICTS, SOME OF THEM HAVE LIKE, UH, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT YOU WOULD CALL IT, OPERATIONAL RELEVANCE. LIKE THE LAND COVER, THE LAND USE CLASSES. THIS IS EVENLY SIZED HEXAGONS, 1000 HEXAGONS LAID OVER THE TOP OF PETALUMA. THEY'RE ALL EXACTLY THE SAME SIZE. AND I KIND OF THINK IT'S COOL BECAUSE IT STRIPS AWAY THAT POLITICS, IT STRIPS AWAY THE THINGS THAT WE THINK WE UNDERSTAND AND IT GIVES US A GENERAL MAPPING IN OUR MINDS OF LIKE SORT OF THE MASSES OF WHERE THE TREES ARE. AND WE CAN SEE WE HAVE THAT PALE YELLOW IN THE MIDDLE, THAT'S THE URBAN CORE. WE HAVE THAT PALE YELLOW DOWN IN THE SOUTHEAST, WHICH IS THE, THAT RIVERFRONT PROPERTY. THAT'S LAST TIME I WAS HERE. THERE WAS A BEAUTIFUL BOLD PLAN FOR A PARK THERE, BUT AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND, IT'S LIKE SORT OF MOSTLY IN LIMBO RIGHT NOW, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF ROOM FOR TREES THERE. UM, HERE'S A CHANGE IN CANOPY COVER THE ORANGES AND THOSE DARK BROWNS ARE DECREASED HEXAGONS. UM, THERE'S ONLY THREE DARK BROWN ONES. I THINK. MY GUESS IS THAT THOSE ARE HAPPEN TO LAND ON THAT 1 0 1, UM, EXPANSION. UM, BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT AGAIN, THAT'S SORT OF LIKE WHERE THERE IS A DECREASE. IT'S MOSTLY IN THE SORT OF URBAN CORE AREA. AND THEN THE POTENTIAL PLANTING AREA REINFORCES THAT MESSAGE THAT I JUST MADE. THEN MOST AVAILABLE SPACE SITS DOWN THERE [00:20:01] AND THAT SOUTHERN CORNER CORNER WHERE THE OPEN SPACE IS, UM, AND THEN UP, YOU KNOW, SORT OF ON THE FRINGES OF THE CITY. SO AGAIN, LIKE TRYING TO, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE WOULD PUT TREES IN THE FUTURE. UM, ANOTHER PIECE OF THIS PUZZLE THAT THEY'VE DONE FOR US THAT I DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO PRESENT TODAY IS THEIR PRIORITIZATION. SO THEY HAVE A, AN A PROCESS THAT THEY DO WHERE THEY LOOK AT MEASURES OF HEALTH ACCORDING TO THE CDC BY CENSUS, TRACTED, UM, THINGS LIKE POVERTY LEVELS, UNEMPLOYMENT RATES, VULNERABLE POPULATIONS, LOW TREE CANOPY COVER, HIGH POTENTIAL PLANTING AREA, ET CETERA. AND THEY STACK THEM ALL ON TOP OF EACH OTHER AND SUGGEST TO US THE PARTS OF THE CITY WHERE WE WOULD WANT TO, TO PUT OUR ATTENTION. SO, UM, I THINK I MESSED UP. I DON'T THINK I HAVE THOSE PICTURES IN HERE TODAY, BUT TODAY WE'RE HERE TO TALK MORE ABOUT THE ACTUAL NUMBERS. SO THIS ONE I THOUGHT WAS SORT OF INTERESTING. CAN IT BE COVERED BY OWNERSHIP? AND ONE THING THAT'S IMPORTANT IS WE KEEP, IF WE TALK ABOUT THE PERCENTAGES, WE ALSO NEED TO KEEP THE ACRES IN OUR MIND AS A, AS THE PROPER UNIT. SO THE CITY IS MADE UP OF ALMOST ENTIRELY PRIVATE LAND, RIGHT? 873 ACRES VERSUS 262. SO LET'S JUST CALL IT 80 20 PRIVATE TO PUBLIC. THE CANOPY IS ACTUALLY RELATIVELY EVENLY DISTRIBUTED OVER THOSE IN PERCENTAGE TERMS. UM, THE POTENTIAL PLANTING AREA IS ACTUALLY ALSO KIND OF EVENLY DISTRIBUTED, CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT THE PRIVATE LAND TAKES UP 80% OF THE CITY, THE POTENTIAL PLANTING AREA IS CLOSER TO HALF OF WHAT'S AVAILABLE. SO YOU DON'T HAVE AS MUCH ROOM ON THE PRIVATE LAND AS YOU WOULD NECESSARILY HAVE THOUGHT. BUT, AND THEN WE SWITCH BACK TO POT PERCENTAGES AND WE SEE THAT OF THE PRIVATE LAND, ABOUT 21% IS POTENTIAL PLANTING AREA, AND IN THE PUBLIC SPACES 41%. SO WE COULD PUT MORE TREES ON THAT PUBLIC SPACE. BUT AGAIN, HOW MUCH OF IT IS THAT OPEN SPACE, WHICH WE MAY OR MAY NOT WANT TO PLANT A LOT OF TREES ON. UM, AND THEN BECAUSE OF PRIVATE LAND TENDS TO BE A HOUSE WITH A DRIVEWAY, UH, IT, IT HAS A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF UNSUITABLE SURFACE MORE, UM, IN IMPERVIOUS SURFACE THERE. SO THEN WE CAN LOOK AT AVAILABLE PLANTING SPACE BY LAND USE. I'VE, WE ALWAYS HEAR ABOUT INDUSTRIAL PARTS OF CITIES AND HOW WE NEED MORE TREES. AND IT'S OBVIOUSLY TRUE. UM, THAT'S YOUR URBAN HEAT ISLAND EFFECT. YOU HAVE A GIANT BUILDING SITTING IN THE MIDDLE OF A GIANT PARKING LOT AND YOU WOULD REALLY LOVE TO HIDE IT AND COVER IT UP AND COOL IT OFF WITH TREES. BUT IS THERE ACTUALLY ROOM TO PLANT THEM AND MAKE, LIKE, HOW, HOW MUCH, HOW MANY OPPORTUNITIES ARE THERE FOR THAT? AND SO ALSO THE INDUSTRIAL SPACE IS NOT ACTUALLY THAT LARGE. SO THE WHOLE INDUSTRIAL SPACE AND PETALUMA IS, UM, ONLY ON THE ORDER OF LIKE 200 ACRES COMPARED TO A THOUSAND PLUS IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY. SO THIS COMPANY ESTIMATES THAT THERE'S ONLY 6% CANOPY IN THE INDUSTRIAL AREA WITH ANOTHER 15% OR ONLY 29 ACRES OF POTENTIAL AREA TO PLANT TREES IN THE INDUSTRIAL PARTS. NOW AGAIN, REMEMBER I SAID THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE WASN'T INCLUDED, SO WE WANNA ADD SOME BACK IN FOR THE PARKING LOTS, MAYBE ALONG THE ROADS. BUT OF COURSE, IF YOU'VE GOT A WAREHOUSE THERE, THERE'S JUST NOT MUCH YOU CAN DO TO SHADE THE MIDDLE OF THAT BUILDING. SO THAT'S, IT IS WHAT IT IS. WE CAN DO OUR BEST, TRY TO GET TREES AROUND THE PERIMETER, UM, BUT THAT'S NOT GONNA BE THE THING THAT MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN OUR NUMBERS. THE THING, THE PLACE WHERE THE NUMBERS ARE IS AGAIN, THE GREEN SPACE. WE'VE SANG ABOUT 650 ACRES OF AVAILABLE PLANTING SPACE IN THE GREEN SPACE, AND THEN ABOUT 800 WITHIN THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS. SO ANY PLAN FOR GETTING TREES IN THE GROUND THAT WE DO, WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC EDUCATION OUTREACH COMPONENT TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO PLANT MORE TREES IN THEIR YARDS. SO HERE'S THE CONTENTIOUS PART, . SO, UM, WE HAVE 14.4% CANOPY COVER. ACCORDING TO PLANET GEO WHO DID THIS WORK, WE HAVE ABOUT 24% OF LAND AREA MORE AVAILABLE FOR PLANTING. WE KNOW WE CAN'T PLANT ALL OF THAT, NOT REGARDLESS OF THE OPEN SPACE QUESTION. THERE'S JUST PLENTY OF PLACES WHERE PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO HAVE TREES. SO COMPLETELY ARBITRARILY, WE KNOCKED THAT DOWN BY 65 TO 65%. WE SAID WE'RE ONLY GONNA PLANT 65%. THIS IS JUST ALL MADE UP, FIRST DRAFT ROUGH IDEAS. AND THAT BRINGS US IN THEORY TO A 30% CANOPY COVER. NOW THAT NUMBER HAS BEEN WAFTED IN THE AIR BY MANY SPEAKERS THAT I'VE HEARD AND TALKED TO IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS OR SO. UM, IT IS THE NUMBER RIGHT NOW, I KIND OF WANNA CALL IT A MEME ALMOST THAT IT'S A NEW, THERE'S ALWAYS A NEW FASHION IN URBAN FORESTRY, LIKE IN EVERYTHING A NEW FASHION [00:25:01] 40, IT'S CALLED 3 3300. HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE HEARD THIS 3 30, 300 THING? SOME RELIEF PEOPLE. SO THIS WAS AN IDEA POSITED BY A SCANDINAVIAN URBAN FORESTER WHO'S VERY FAMOUS IN MY, IN THIS WORLD. HIS NAME IS CECIL, AND THEN HE HAS AN UNPRONOUNCEABLE LAST NAME. I'M NOT GONNA TRY TO SAY IT. UM, THE IDEA IS EVERYBODY HAS SHOULD SEE THREE TREES FROM THEIR WINDOW. EVERY NEIGHBOR SHOULD HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD SHOULD HAVE 30% CANOPY COVER, AND EVERYBODY SHOULD WITHIN BE WITHIN 300 YARDS OF A PARK OR GREEN SPACE THAT THEY CAN ACCESS. SO AGAIN, THIS IS A SCANDINAVIAN URBAN FORESTER PLOT, LIKE SENDING OUT THIS IDEA THAT IN THEORY EVERYBODY SHOULD ASPIRE TO. AND I WOULD SAY THIS DOESN'T ACTUALLY, IT'S MAKING ME MORE CRAZY EVERY DAY. IT, IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. MAYBE THE THREE TREES THING, MAYBE A PARK WITHIN 300 YARDS MAKES SENSE. BUT A 30% CANOPY COVER AS A GENERAL RULE IS LIKE YOU WOULD HAVE TO CUT DOWN TREES IN SOME EAST COAST CITIES, YOU WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE TO ACHIEVE IN PLACES LIKE PHOENIX. YOU WOULD DESTROY THE, I MEAN, THEY'VE KIND OF ALREADY DESTROYED THEIR ENVIRONMENT, BUT IT WOULD BE EVEN WORSE. SO EVEN THOUGH I'VE HEARD THAT NUMBER HERE, IT'S KIND OF COOL THAT IT'S DOUBLE WHAT WE HAVE NOW. I CAME AT IT WITH SOME SKEPTICISM AND SO I SAID, WELL, WHAT WOULD IT TAKE US TO GET THERE? JUST BECAUSE THAT'S THE NUMBER THAT'S BEEN WAFTED OUT. SO HERE ARE SOME ASSUMPTIONS THAT WE STARTED WITH THAT YOUR AVERAGE TREE IS 33 FEET IN DIAMETER THAT GIVES YOU ABOUT 50 TREES PER ACRE. THAT'S A, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S A REASONABLE AVERAGE. THERE ARE A LOT OF TREES THAT ARE, ARE A LOT BIGGER, AND A LOT OF THAT WOULD NOT BE THAT BIG. SO IT'S, IT'S NOT A BAD START PASS. UM, IF WE STUCK WITH THAT 65% OF THE AVAILABLE PLANTING SPACE, WE WOULD USE, WE'D HAVE ABOUT 1400 ACRES LEFT OVER. AND AT 50 TREES PER ACRE, THAT'D BE ABOUT 70,000 TREES. THAT'S WHAT I'M CALLING IT, THE EASY MATH. SO THE HARD MATH ACKNOWLEDGES THAT A WHOLE BUNCH OF TREES ARE GOING TO DIE. SO SOME TREES IN THE EXISTING CANOPY ARE GOING TO DIE BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY IT WORKS. AND THEN SOME OF THE TREES WE PLANT EVERY YEAR ARE GOING TO DIE. SO WE PUT SOME REASONABLE ESTIMATES ON THIS. AND THE MOST IMPORTANT ARE THESE MORTALITY AND SURVIVAL. SO THIS IS A, I THINK A GENEROUS ESTIMATE OF URBAN TREE SURVIVAL IN THE, UM, AGAIN, IN THE URBAN FORESTRY WORLD, THERE'S A WOMAN NAMED LAURA ROMAN. THIS HAS BEEN HER FOCUS SINCE SHE GRADUATED WITH A PHD 15 YEARS AGO. SHE WOULD TELL YOU THAT THESE NUMBERS ARE VERY OPTIMISTIC. SO SHE COLLECTED A WHOLE BUNCH OF TREE INVENTORIES AND ACTUALLY FIGURED OUT HOW MANY TREES SURVIVE IN CITIES. AND SHE WOULD TELL YOU, THESE NUMBERS ARE TOO OPTIMISTIC. BUT I PUT THEM INTO THE MODEL. WE HAVE 5% TREES DIE EVERY YEAR FOR THE FIRST FIVE YEARS. SO THE FIRST FEW YEARS OF A TREE'S LIFE ARE VERY VULNERABLE, UM, TO ALL KINDS OF THINGS. AND THEN AFTER THAT, ABOUT ONE AND A HALF WOULD DIE EVERY YEAR. AND THIS IS WITH THE HELP OF CHAT GPT. AND THEN I BUILT THE MODEL MYSELF SO I COULD SEE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN. CHAT, GPT SAID, WHY DON'T YOU TRY PLANTING 3000 TREES A YEAR FOR 10 YEARS AND THEN PLANT 1800 TREES A YEAR FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS. YOU'LL NEVER GET TO 30%. SO I WAS LIKE, OH, THAT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW. IN FACT, IF YOU PLANT 5,000 A YEAR, UM, AND THEN 25,000 FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS, YOU STILL WON'T GET TO 30%. SO IF YOU WANTED TO GET TO 30% IN 30 YEARS, WHICH IS THE LENGTH OF THIS URBAN FOREST MANAGEMENT PLAN, AND IT'S THE NUMBER THAT'S USUALLY USED, YOU WOULD HAVE TO PLANT 10,000 TREES A YEAR FOR 10 YEARS AND 5,000 TREES A YEAR FOR 20 YEARS. AND I THINK FOR THE CITY OF PETALUMA, THAT THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE. SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE TODAY, IS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS A REASONABLE GOAL FOR US. SO WE'VE SEEN THE NUMBERS. WE HAD THIS 30% GOAL THAT, YOU KNOW, CAME FROM CECIL AND IT CAME FROM, UH, DOUBLING WHAT WE'VE GOT. AND CAL FIRE HAS BEEN PUSHING THESE KINDS OF THINGS TOO. LIKE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT DOUBLING YOUR CANOPY. AND I SAID, WELL, DOES ANYBODY EVER DO THIS MATH ? AND I DON'T THINK THAT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE. SO I SAID, WELL, WHAT IF WE, I MEAN, RELIEF'S BEEN PLANTING ABOUT A THOUSAND TREES A YEAR, RIGHT? SO LIKE, LET'S PUSH THAT JUST 'CAUSE I WANTED TO END UP WITH AN EVEN NUMBER. IF YOU PLANTED 1,250 TREES A YEAR FOR THE INDEFINITE FUTURE AFTER 30 YEARS, YOU'D HAVE A 17% CANOPY COVER THAT'S 2.6% MORE THAN NOW. SO THAT'S ACTUALLY AN IMPROVEMENT OF ABOUT 15%, WHICH I THINK IS A PRETTY REASONABLE, UM, IMPROVEMENT. AND SO WHAT I'M KIND OF HERE TODAY TO DO IS SAY WE HAVE OPTIONS FOR WHERE, WHAT, WHAT KIND OF GOALS WE SET. UM, AND THEY NEED TO BE GUIDED BY REALITY AND WHAT'S FEASIBLE AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO. SO WE, THIS, THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE JUST FOR AN ACTUAL CONVERSATION. I WANNA [00:30:01] HEAR WHAT YOU THINK AND WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY. UM, AND THEN WE'LL CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION FOR THE NEXT FEW MONTHS WHILE WE ACTUALLY DRAFT UP THOSE FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS. UM, LET ME SEE. I THINK THAT'S, YEAH, THAT'S ACTUALLY ABOUT IT. UM, WHAT AM I TRYING TO SAY? OH, THERE HAVE BEEN, IN THE PAST THERE WAS A, ANOTHER FASHION, THIS IS YOUR FASHION. UH, THIS LIKE TURNED INTO A LECTURE ABOUT URBAN FORESTRY FASHION. SO THERE WAS A FASHION ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO FOR ENORMOUS TREES PLANTING CAMPAIGNS. LOS ANGELES WAS GONNA PLANT A MILLION TREES. DENVER WAS GONNA PLANT A MILLION TREES. NEW YORK WAS GONNA PLANT A MILLION TREES. AND THOSE ARE REALLY BIG CITIES, AND THOSE ARE REALLY BIG NUMBERS. AND IT TURNS OUT TO NOT BE EASY AT ALL. SO IN SOME WAYS, IT'S EASY TO THROW TREES IN THE GROUND AND THEN A LOT OF THEM DIE. UM, I'VE MENTIONED AT OUR MOST RECENT WORKING GROUP MEETING, THE SACRAMENTO MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT HAD ENORMOUS TREE GIVEAWAY PROGRAM AND WENT ON FOR 20 YEARS. THEY WERE TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE SHADE THEIR BUILDINGS TO CONSERVE ENERGY SO THAT SMUD COULD RE MEET. ITS LIKE THE REQUIREMENTS GIVEN TO IT BY THE STATE. AND FINALLY, SOMEONE WENT OUT AND DID A SURVEY TO SEE HOW MANY OF THOSE TREES HAD SURVIVED. I THINK THEY GAVE A, I THINK THEY GAVE AWAY 500,000, AND AFTER 10 YEARS, ABOUT HALF OF THEM HAD LIVED. SO IT'S EASY TO THROW A BUNCH OF TREES IN THE GROUND, IT'S HARD TO KEEP THEM ALIVE, AND IT'S HARD TO TAKE CARE OF THEM IN THE LONG TERM IF YOU DON'T HAVE A PLAN FOR ONGOING MAINTENANCE. SO ON THE ONE HAND, ONE POSSIBLE GOAL IS BIG, IS A BIG DREAM. ANOTHER GOAL IS ANOTHER POTENTIAL PATH FORWARD FOR A VISION IS WE'RE GONNA PLANT, WE'RE GONNA FOCUS THESE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE ON THE MOST URGENT SPOTS, AND THERE'LL BE EXPENSIVE AND PAINFUL, LIKE PARKING LOTS, LIKE STREETS, LIKE PATHS THAT KIDS USE TO GET TO SCHOOL, LIKE PLAYGROUNDS AND PLACES WHERE THE EVERY TREE REALLY MAKES A DIFFERENCE. LIKE IN STEPHANIE'S NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THE THINGS HAVE BEEN PAVED OVER. AND IF YOU WANTED TO PUT TREES IN, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DIG UP SOME CONCRETE AND WIDEN THE, AND SHRINK THE SIDEWALK AND MOVE IT AROUND. UM, BUT EVERY ONE OF THOSE TREES WILL BE VALUABLE AND HA HAVE A, A SIGNIFICANCE AND A CONTRIBUTION TO THE URBAN LANDSCAPE THAT WILL BE REALLY IMPORTANT. WHEREAS WHAT WE WANTED TO DO IS GO AFTER BIG NUMBERS. WE MIGHT END UP WITH A LOT OF THINGS THAT DID NOT SURVIVE, BUT THE PATH FORWARD IS NOT CLEAR AT THIS MOMENT. SO WHAT I'M HERE FOR IS TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY. NOW THAT I'VE GIVEN YOU SOME NUMBERS, THAT IS, UH, THE END OF MY PRESENTATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COLLEEN. THAT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION AND I THINK FOR PEOPLE, YEAH, GIVE YOURSELF A PAT ON THE BACK FOR THAT . AND I THINK FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH TREE ISSUES, UH, IN THE CITY, IT'S REALLY NICE TO SEE THE NUMBERS, SEE THESE LAYOUTS THAT REALLY INFORM THE CONVERSATION. AND WHILE FOLKS UP HERE ARE GATHERING THEIR THOUGHTS TO PREPARE WITH SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS MATERIAL, MAYBE SOME COMMENTARY FOR DISCUSSION. UM, JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE A COUPLE NEW MEMBERS, CAN YOU JUST, YOU KNOW, 32ND MINUTE FRAME WHAT A-U-F-M-P IS USED FOR? BECAUSE BEFORE THE MEETING I WAS THROWING OUT THE TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE, WE'RE HEARING A LOT OF STUFF ABOUT POLICY OR ENTRIES. CAN YOU JUST GIVE US THAT 10,000 FOOT VIEW OF LIKE WHAT THE UFMP IS FOR AND WHAT WHAT WE USE IT FOR AS A CITY? YEAH. SO I'VE MENTIONED LIKE VERY THE THE 10 SECONDS SPIEL, UM, A STRATEGIC PLAN FOR MOVING FORWARD. HOW ARE WE GOING TO CARE FOR THE TREES THAT WE HAVE NOW? WHAT ARE THE SORT OF OPERATIONS AND PROCEDURES THAT THE CITY STAFF CAN PUT INTO PLACE? HOW DO WE WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS LIKE RELIEF AND OTHER COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS TO, TO ACHIEVE THE, OUR VISION FOR THE FUTURE? SO THE URBAN FOREST MANAGEMENT PLAN WILL BE, IS ABOUT CRAFTING THAT VISION, ABOUT UNDERSTANDING WHERE THINGS ARE NOW IN TERMS OF RESOURCES AND HOW THEY'RE ALLOCATED, WHO'S WORKING ON WHAT, WHAT ARE THE, IF YOU APPLY FOR A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT, WHO SEES IT AND WHERE DOES IT GO FROM THERE? AND THEN TRYING TO FIND OUT, FIND WAYS TO MAKE THAT ALL WORK MORE SMOOTHLY AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S WORKING TOWARDS THE RIGHT GOAL. SO DOES THAT PERFECT. THAT WAS THE PERFECT OVERVIEW. ALL RIGHT. AND IDEALLY, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE'RE DOING THESE THINGS IN PARALLEL, BUT IDEALLY THIS IS THE FOUNTAIN AND EVERYTHING, ALL THE OTHER POLICY KIND OF STEMS FROM THIS DOCUMENT. HOPEFULLY SOMETHING YOU COULD RETURN TO OVER THE YEARS AND SAY, IS THIS IN KEEPING WITH THE THINGS THAT WE WORKED OUT WHEN WE SAT DOWN TOGETHER IN 2025? AND ARE WE ON THE PATH THAT WE WANT TO BE ON? PERFECT. PERFECT. WELL THANK YOU FOR FRAMING THAT FOR US. SO NOW I WILL LOOK TO OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO SEE IF ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS ON THE MATERIAL. UM, ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION. BILL, I SEE YOU READY TO JUMP ON THE MIC, PLEASE? YEAH. YEAH. THANK YOU. UH, I DO HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS. UM, MAYBE WE COULD COME BACK AND TO SOME OF THE BIGGER ISSUES, BUT LIKE, JUST TO GET INTO THE NITTY GRITTY A LITTLE BIT, YOU'D MENTIONED A FEW THINGS AROUND WHAT'S INCLUDED AND EXCLUDED. SO THAT I THINK, UH, YOU CLARIFIED THAT THE PARKING LOTS FOR ALL, YOU KNOW, COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES WERE EXCLUDED FROM THE CANOPY ANALYSIS OR THE, IS IS THAT, [00:35:01] SO LET, LET ME SEE IF I CAN CLEAR THAT UP. SO THE FIRST STEP OF THE CANOPY ANALYSIS IS TO MAP OUT WHAT ALL THE LANDS BEING USED FOR. IT'S CALLED LAND COVER. SO WHAT IS THE LAND COVER? SO IT IDENTIFIED ALL OF THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACES, SO THAT'S PARKING LOTS, BUILDINGS, ROADS, SIDEWALKS. OKAY. UM, LIKE HARD, YOU KNOW, AS BASKETBALL COURTS, UM, BECAUSE IT'S NOT EASY TO PLANT TREES THERE. SO THEN THEY CALCULATED THIS NUMBER. SO THAT NUMBER IN PETALUMA IS ABOUT 52%. OKAY. YEAH. SO HALF OF THE CITY IS PAVED OVER ESSENTIALLY. RIGHT. THEN THEY SAID WHAT IS AVAILABLE PLANTING SPACE. SO IF, SO FIRST OF ALL, CAL FIRE REQUIRES US TO SET A CANOPY GOAL. DON'T TELL US WHAT IT HAS TO BE, BUT PART OF THE DEAL IS WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH ONE. SO YOU CAN'T SET A CANOPY COVER GOAL IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH LAND YOU HAVE TO PLANT TREES ON, RIGHT? LIKE YEAH, MANHATTAN IS NEVER GONNA ACHIEVE A 30% CANOPY COVER. THERE'S JUST EVERY SPACE THAT'S LEFT IS LIKE THIS BIG. YEAH. SO FOR THE EASE OF THIS CONVERSATION, THEY FIGURED OUT THE, WHAT LAND IS EASY TO PLANT ON. AND FOR THAT THEY DID SAY WE'RE JUST GONNA ASSUME YOU'RE NOT GONNA PLANT TREES ON ANY IMPERVIOUS SURFACE. YEAH. NOW THAT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT WHAT WE WOULD REALLY WANNA DO. WE DO WANNA PLANT TREES IN IMPERVIOUS SURFACE. YEAH. WE WANNA PUT TREES IN PARKING LOTS. WE WANNA, UM, WE WANNA TRADE SHADE OVER IMPERVIOUS SURFACE. LIKE WE WANNA SHADE OVER ROADS. BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THE AMOUNT OF SPACE WE WOULD CARVE OUT OF PARKING LOTS IS GONNA REALLY MOVE THE NEEDLE ON THAT PERCENTAGE VERY MUCH. OKAY. WHAT ABOUT STREETS? IS THAT, THAT'S IMPERVIOUS, RIGHT? YES. SO THAT'S ALSO LEFT OUT OF THE POTENTIAL PLANTING SPACE, BUT THE PLANTING STRIPS ARE NOT, BUT LET'S, OKAY, FAIR ENOUGH. AND THIS MIGHT JUST BE THE, THE WAY THAT IT'S DONE, BUT YEAH, I LOOK AT A PLANTING STRIP, BUT LET'S SAY FIVE FEET BY THREE FEET, WHICH, UH, OR LET'S SAY FIVE FEET BY FOUR FEET, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET A, A PRETTY LARGE TREE IN THAT YEP. TO PROVIDE A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OF CANOPY. YEP. SO YOU'RE SAYING IT'S IMPERVIOUS, POTENTIALLY ALL AROUND THAT. BUT WE COULD GET A THOUSAND FEET OF CANOPY THERE. THAT SPACE IS COUNTED TOWARDS PLANTABLE SPACE, THE, THE, THE PLANTER STRIP AND, AND THE STREET AROUND IT. 'CAUSE YOU'RE SAYING THE THE STREET IS IMPERVIOUS. YOU'RE RIGHT. THE MATH DOESN'T QUITE PAN OUT THERE. OKAY. BUT I, I THINK IN THE END, THE POINT IS THAT STILL, EVEN IF WE PLANTED EVERY PLANTING SPACE, I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING, WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY IN THE BEGINNING WAS WE HAVE TO TAKE THIS WHOLE THING WITH A GRAIN OF SALT. LIKE WE HAVE THIS NUMBER THAT THEY TELL US WE CAN'T PLANT TREES ON, WHICH IS THE 50, THE, IT'S ACTUALLY 62% IMPERVIOUS PLUS BARE SOIL PLUS WHATEVER, PLUS BALL FIELDS. AND IN A SENSE, THAT NUMBER IS, IT'S TOO HIGH. LIKE WE, WE REALLY HAVE MORE OPTIONS INSIDE OF THAT NUMBER THAN WE THINK WE DO. YEAH. ON THE OTHER HAND, THEY'VE TOLD US WE HAVE 38% AVAILABLE PLANTING SPACE, AND THAT NUMBER IS WRONG IN THE OTHER DIRECTION. WE CAN'T FILL ALL THOSE SPACES WITH TREES. YEAH. SO TO THE EXTENT TO WHICH IT BALANCES OUT, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I, I THINK IT'S GONNA COME OUT IN THE WASH. THESE AREN'T THE, THIS IS THIS KIND OF CONVERS, THIS KIND OF ANALYSIS IS ABOUT THE SORT OF LARGER GENERAL IDEA AND IT'S MAYBE IT'S IT'S STANDARD OR, YOU KNOW, FROM COMMUNITY OR, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE WAY IT'S DONE. BUT I, I JUST THINK THAT ANECDOTALLY, I, ON THE WALK OVER HERE, IT'S HOT DAY. YEAH. THOSE REALLY DROVE HOME HOW LIKE HOT IT IS ON, ON OUR SIDEWALKS AND, AND YOU KNOW, UM, LIKE HOPSCOTCHING AROUND LOOKING FOR SHADE. YEAH. AND UH, AND YOU KNOW, IT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE AND IT'S SUCH A, LIKE, YOU GET TO THE END OF YOUR TALK TODAY, HOW, HOW BIG AN IMPACT IT COULD BE TO YOU GET OUR, OUR STREETS PLANTED. SO, UM, ANYWAY, JUST, UH, SO I, I WANNA BE CLEAR, WE'RE DEFINITELY NOT, I'M DEFINITELY NOT IN ANY WAY SUGGESTING I, WE ABSOLUTELY SHOULD BE PLANTING TREES OVER IMPERVIOUS SURFACE. AND I THINK THE OTHER THING THAT, THAT MATH SHOWED TO ME WAS THAT THIS POTENTIAL PLANTING AREA NUMBER, WHICH IS ONLY SUPPOSED TO BE A NUMBER AND THE NUMBER WAS 38% TOTAL, DOESN'T EVEN MATTER BECAUSE WE'RE NEVER GONNA GET, LIKE, WE'RE NOT BUMPING UP AGAINST IT. WHEREAS IF YOU WERE SAY ATLANTA, AND AGAIN, LIKE IF YOU JUST STOP MOWING THE GRASS, A FOREST WILL GROW, THEN YOUR POTENTIAL NUMBER REALLY MATTERS BECAUSE YOU COULD BE YOU THEN YOU'D BE SAYING, OH, WE WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA COVER IT ALL. EVERY POSSIBLE SQUARE INCH WILL COVER, BUT HERE WE'RE NOT GONNA GET TO THAT NUMBER. SO OUR GOAL IS GONNA BE WHERE DO WE PRIORITIZE PUTTING TREES? AND I WOULD PUT THEM THERE. I I'M, THAT'S WHERE I'D, IT'S SORT OF, I GET EMOTIONAL ABOUT, I GET A LITTLE, LIKE I, I GREW UP IN PALO ALTO IN A, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BUNGALOW ON A VERY, UH, UH, A STREET WITH A LOT OF TREES. I, THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE COMMUNITY'S COVERED IN, YOU KNOW, YES. IT HAS THE HIGHEST CANOPY COVER, I THINK OF [00:40:01] ANY CITY IN CALIFORNIA. YEAH. SO I, IT'S LIKE 38% AND LIKE MENLO PARKS AT 27%. AND I THINK THOSE ARE PLACES THAT AREN'T, DON'T LOOK A LOT DIFFERENTLY IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, THE DENSITY OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND THE, THE CITY BLOCKS. MAYBE THERE ARE BIGGER PLANTER STRIPS, BUT THEY STILL HAVE, YOU KNOW, WIRES ABOVE. AND I JUST THINK THAT THOSE COMMUNITIES HAVE, UH, HAVE DIFFERENT MODELS IN, YOU KNOW, IN IN, IN, IN HOW THEY'VE, UM, AND, AND DIFFERENT TYPES OF ORDINANCES THAT HAVE MAINTAINED THOSE THREE CANOPIES. SO I, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR US TO GET TO 30% OR, OR, OR I JUST THINK IT IS GOING, IT WOULD TAKE A LONG TIME FOR TO GET MATURE TREES, BUT EVENTUALLY I THINK WE COULD GET THERE. UH, I DUNNO. OKAY. I I JUST, YEAH. AND, AND YOU KNOW, THOSE, YEAH, MAYBE, MAYBE THERE ARE MORE PARKS IN PALO ALTO THAT HAVE MORE TREES AND THEY ADD UP, BUT I JUST DON'T FEEL TOO, I MEAN, I LOOK ANECDOTALLY AROUND THE, THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND THEY, THEY SEEM LIKE SIMILAR DENSITY NEIGHBORHOODS. BUT I THINK WHAT I WANT TO COME OUT OF THIS CONVERS LIKE THE POINT I THINK I WAS TRYING TO MAKE, YOU'VE, YOU'VE MADE, WHICH IS I THINK OUR, OUR GOAL MAKES MORE SENSE AS NOT, THIS WOULDN'T BE EXACTLY IT, BUT WE'D LIKE THE CITY TO LOOK LIKE A CITY LIKE PALO ALTO IN TERMS OF TREES. INSTEAD OF TRYING TO PLANT 10,000 TREES A YEAR FOR 10 YEARS AND 5,000 TREES A YEAR EVERY YEAR AFTER THAT. UM, TRYING TO IDENTIFY WHAT IT IS WE ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. HOW DO WE, WHERE DO WE WANT THOSE TREES TO GO? WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT TO US AS OPPOSED TO, UM, RUSHING TOWARDS A GOAL THAT MIGHT MAKE US MAKE DIFFERENT CHOICES THAN PRIORITIZING THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS. DOES THAT MAKE YEAH, OKAY. YEAH. YEAH. FAIR ENOUGH. WELL, I'LL OPEN IT BACK UP TO THE GROUP. SORRY. NO, I THINK YOU HIGHLIGHTED A REALLY IMPORTANT POINT ABOUT SOME OF THE LIMITATIONS IN CANOPY ANALYSIS, KIND OF INHERENT IN THE PROCESS. AND TO COLLEEN'S POINT, WELL THEN HOW DOES THAT INFORM OUR GOAL SETTING AS A CITY? RIGHT? WE UNDERSTAND THERE'S SOME LIMITATIONS IN HOW WE'RE JUST EXAMINING IF WE JUST USE CANOPY COVERAGE. IS THAT REALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR? ARE THERE OTHER OPTIONS? UH, SO NO, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION TO HIGHLIGHT. I REALLY APPRECIATED THAT BACK AND FORTH. UM, FOR ANY OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBERS WHO HAVE QUESTIONS, TARYN, I SEE YOU WITH A HAND UP PLEASE. UM, THANK YOU KAYLEEN. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YEAH. UM, THAT WAS REALLY AN OUTSTANDING PRESENTATION. I LOVE YOUR THOUGHT. I LOVE THAT. UM, YOU THINK CRITICALLY, UM, THAT YOU'VE GOT, UM, A LOT OF LOGIC AND, UH, A LOT OF NUMBERS. YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT A LOT OF INPUTS, UM, UM, BROUGHT UP SOME THINGS I HADN'T THOUGHT OF BEFORE. UM, I'M UP HERE ON THE TREE COMMITTEE BECAUSE I LOVE TREES LIKE YOU. AND, UM, WHEN I LOOK AT WHAT GOES ON IN THIS IN THIS TOWN, UM, I SEE THREE, FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO SAY THE NUMBERS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PRESENTATION WERE FOR A CITY URBAN NUMBERS. I'D BE CURIOUS TO KNOW ABOUT SUBURBAN NUMBERS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT AN URBAN CITY. WE ARE SUBURBAN SLASH RURAL COMMUNITY. AND WE EVEN SEE IN YOUR STATS THAT WE'RE ACQUIRING CANOPY WHEN WE EXPAND OUR CITY PROPERTY TO INCLUDE OPEN SPACE. SO I'D LIKE US TO THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, REFRAMING THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, SO WE CAN DREAM A LITTLE BIT BIGGER. I REALLY LIKE THE ASPIRATIONAL, UM, ASPECT, AND THAT'S WHAT MOST OF MY COMMENTS ARE REALLY GEARED AROUND. BUT I, I LOVE YOUR THINKING. SO I'LL SAY THAT FOR ME, IT COMES DOWN TO, I SEE THREE COMPONENTS, THE PLANNING, THE PROTECTION, AND THEN THE MONEY. UM, BECAUSE MONEY IS A FORCE, AND IF WE THINK ABOUT THE ABOVE EXCELLENT WORK THAT RELIEF HAS DONE, UM, THAT'S A FUNCTION OF MONEY, BUT THERE'S STILL SO MUCH MONEY LEFT ON THE TABLE. OUR CITY SPENDS A TON OF MONEY AND WE CAN JUST CARVE OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE IF WE JUST ASK CITY COUNCIL FOR IT. RIGHT? AND IF WE IMPLEMENT, IMPLEMENT THE KEYS FOR TREES, I THINK THAT WE CAN GET TO A PLACE LIKE SAN LUIS OBISPO, WHICH HAS TREES ON THE STREET, RIGHT? THAT GIVE THEM A HUNDRED PERCENT CANOPY. UM, CITIES LIKE, UM, DOWNTOWN UKIAH, IT'S 100% CANOPY WITH THEIR STREET TREES, RIGHT? AND, UM, IN CHICO, THE BALLPARKS HAVE TALL CANOPY TREES OVER THEM. SO YOU CAN PLAY BASEBALL AND YOU KNOW, HALF THE DAY YOU'RE IN THE SHADE. SO THAT KIND OF DREAM A LITTLE BIGGER AND A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY, I THINK CAN HELP US BE AGGRESSIVE IF WE [00:45:01] HAVE THE PROTECTIONS THAT YOU'RE GETTING US TO. AND IF WE HAVE PLANNING BY TREES BEING CONSIDERED IN PLANNING COMMITTEE, CLIMATE COMMISSION, UH, PARKS AND REC COMMISSION, THAT GETS US THE INTEGRATION WHERE WE HAVE MORE OPPORTUNITY TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE DREAMING. SO I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO, I KNOW WE'RE, WE'RE BIG TREE PEOPLE, BUT UM, I FEEL LIKE YOU ARE GREAT AT PUTTING TOGETHER ALL OF THE DIFFERENT FACTORS. I THINK WE NEED TO, UM, GET A LITTLE BIT CREATIVE WITH SOME OF THE CITY FACTORS THAT WILL THEN JOIN INTO YOUR PLAN SO THAT WE CAN PUT A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY AND A LITTLE BIT MORE HOPE, BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED TO GET 38% AND I'D LIKE TO SEE THE, FOR THE MAPS THAT ARE DONE, CAN WE OVERLAY PURPLE PIPE PLANS? CAN WE OVERLAY ALL OF THE WATER BECAUSE WE'RE IN A BIG SIT, WE'RE GROUND ZERO FOR A WATER BASIN HERE, RIGHT? UM, AND CAN WE OVERLAY THE BIKING AND WALKING BECAUSE IT'S FRICKING HOT OUT THERE, RIGHT? MM-HMM . SO MAYBE THOSE THINGS TOO IS A COMMENT I'D LIKE TO MAKE, BUT THANK YOU. WONDER. I WAS GONNA SAY FRICKING WONDERFUL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU TARYN. I, I, I DON'T WANNA TAKE NOTES WHILE I'M DOING THIS, BUT I AM HA GRATEFUL TO HAVE THE RECORDING OF THIS PRESENTATION, I MEAN THIS MEETING, SO I CAN PULL THEM OUT OF THERE. THANK YOU. WELL, AND TO THAT POINT I'LL JUST ADD ON THAT FOR SPECIFIC ITEMS LIKE THAT SPECIFIC ASKS, I INVITE EVERY TAC MEMBER, UH, I BELIEVE WE'VE CIRCULATED KALA'S EMAIL. IF NOT, DREW CAN DO THAT AGAIN, JUST TO PASS BACK FEEDBACK, QUESTIONS, THINGS LIKE THAT AFTER THIS MEETING. 'CAUSE I'M SURE IT'S ALWAYS WHEN I LEAVE THE COUNCIL CHAMBER THAT I THINK OF THE QUESTION I SHOULD ASKED. SO YEAH, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OF THOSE QUESTIONS. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU COLLEEN. AND YOU CAN SEND ME PICTURES LIKE STEPHANIE DOES. ALWAYS HAPPY FOR MORE PICTURES OF PLACES WHERE YOU THINK THINGS COULD BE DONE BETTER . PERFECT. PERFECT. UH, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT COMMENT, TARYN, AND ANY FOLLOW UP OR ANY OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBER WITH QUESTION MARYANNE, PLEASE. YEAH. APPRECIATE THAT PRESENTATION. UH, I THINK IT'S GREAT TO HAVE ALL OF THAT INFORMATION, UH, AND TO BE ABLE TO VIEW, VIEW, VIEW IT IN DIFFERENT ASPECTS AND FOR DIFFERENT VALUES, UM, THAT I THINK IS GONNA SERVE THE CITY WELL OVER THE LONG RUN, EVEN MORE THAN JUST FOR THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT. AND, UH, I REALLY UNDERSTAND, I COME FROM A CITY GOVERNMENT BACKGROUND AS WELL, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE REALITY CHECK THAT YOU ARE GIVING IN TERMS OF WHAT IT ACTUALLY WILL TAKE, UM, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT A 30% CANOPY COVERAGE AND THE FACT THAT IT'S NOT REALLY FEASIBLE, I BELIEVE IS WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, WITHOUT ACTUALLY SAYING THAT EITHER ECONOMICALLY, MONEY-WISE OR HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD NEED TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS, THIS UNDERTAKING OVER THE NEXT 30 YEARS. SO I THINK THE IDEA OF BEING VERY REALISTIC AND LOOKING AT PRIORITIZING WHERE WE ARE GOING TO BE FOCUSING THE MONEY THAT WE DO HAVE. I MEAN, OF COURSE WE WANT TO BE HOPEFUL AND LOOK FOR EVERY SOURCE OF OTHER FUNDS TO CONTINUE THE WORK, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, I THINK WE NEED TO BE FOCUSED ON WHAT WE CAN ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISH REALISTICALLY AND PRIORITIZING ACCORDINGLY WHILE WE WORK ON PERHAPS GETTING OTHER SOURCES AND OTHER RESOURCES THAT WE CAN BRING INTO THE PICTURE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YEAH. GREAT. GREAT COMMENTARY, GREAT POINTS. UH, BILL, PLEASE. WERE YOU WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING ELSE? SURE, YEAH, JUST A FEW OTHER THINGS. UM, THANK YOU. LET'S SEE, YOU HAD MENTIONED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW OUR PARKS, WE DON'T NECESSARILY WANTED TO LOOK LIKE MARYLAND PARKS, RIGHT? THEY'RE WE SPECIFICALLY OPEN SPACE I'M TALKING ABOUT, RIGHT? RIGHT. SO NOT PARKS, BUT THAT THE AREA OF THE PERIMETER OF THE CITY THAT'S LIKE THE OAK WOODLANDS. YEAH. YEAH. I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT FACTOR THAT'S PROBABLY BEING DISCUSSED AT THE RELIEF LEVEL. BUT, YOU KNOW, I HAVEN'T HAD THE CHANCE WITH MY COLLEAGUES UP HERE TO TALK ABOUT, AND I, I'M STARTING TO FEEL THE IMPACT AND CERTAINLY HAVE TALKED TO A LOT OF FOLKS WHO ARE HAVING TROUBLE WITH THEIR INSURANCE AND, UH, YOU KNOW, GETTING INSURANCE. AND WE KNOW PEOPLE DOWN, YOU KNOW, LA AND SAN SANTA ROSA LOST THEIR HOMES THROUGH WILDFIRE. YEAH. AND SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. AS MUCH AS I'M BEEN LIKE ALL GAS, NO BREAK WITH TREES, , LIKE I'M, YOU KNOW, HUGE FAN OF TREES, WE DEFINITELY NEED TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION AROUND WILDFIRE RESILIENCE WITH OUR TREES. YEAH. SO WE'RE, IT'S TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION ALL THE BEST PRACTICES BEFORE WE, YOU KNOW, PUT [00:50:01] THEM WHEREVER WE POSSIBLY CAN. I THINK WE NEED TO, UM, AND IT'S A BIGGER CONVERSATION, BUT I DID, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A FACTOR IN WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TOO, LIKE IN POPULATING OUR GREEN SPACES. SO WE'VE BEEN SPENDING, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE LAST MONTH WAS REALLY TRYING TO GET A SENSE OF WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE INSURANCE INDUSTRY. THERE'S LOTS OF STORIES. EVERYBODY'S GOT A STORY, YOU KNOW, MY BROTHER'S UNCLE'S COUSIN LOST THEIR INSURANCE, BUT TRYING TO REALLY GET A HOLD ON THE EXTENT TO WHAT THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING, HOW MUCH OF IT IS AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF INSURANCE, THE CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS, AND HOW MUCH IS ACTUALLY AN INDIVIDUAL AGENT WHO'S MAKING, COMING OUT TO YOUR HOUSE AND JUST MAKING THAT SUBJECTIVE DECISION THAT THESE BRANCHES ARE TOO LOW. SO ANYWAY, WE'RE TRYING TO, THAT WILL BE A COMPONENT OF OUR PROJECT WILL BE WILDFIRE TALK, UM, BEST PRACTICES FOR OR, OR FINDING THAT BALANCE, WHICH IS A REALLY DIFFICULT TOPIC RIGHT NOW. YEAH. WHAT IS THE BALANCE BETWEEN FIRE RISK AND LIVING IN A LANDSCAPE THAT IS ACTUALLY HUMANLY COMFORTABLE, RIGHT? WE, WE WANT TREES. HOW CAN WE LIVE WITH THEM SAFELY? AND HOW CAN WE MAKE SURE OUR INSURANCE COMPANY ISN'T BEHAVE, OR A PARTICULAR AGENT ISN'T GOING BEYOND WHAT THEY SHOULD BE AND WHAT IS THE STATE AND WHAT ARE THE COUNTY? AND SO ANYWAY, YES, THAT'S ALL PART OF THE, WHICH WE'LL TRY TO WRAP IT ALL UP IN A NICE LITTLE BOW AS ONE CHAPTER OF THE URBAN FORCE MANAGEMENT PLAN. BUT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THAT IS, IT CHANGES, RIGHT? LIKE YEARS GO BY, THERE'S NO FIRE, PEOPLE FORGET, NO ONE CARES. AND THEN A TERRIBLE FIRE COMES RAVAGES A WHOLE PART OF LOS ANGELES, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S THE THING ON TOP OF OUR MIND. SO I, WE'RE GONNA TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR FIRE CONVERSATION IS ONE FOR THE AGES AS OPPOSED TO ONE THAT'S KIND OF REACTIONARY TO THE THING THAT'S HAPPENING, YOU KNOW, THAT JUST HAPPENED AND WAS SO PAINFUL AND DIFFICULT. SO YES, IT WE'RE GONNA HIT YOU WITH ALL OF THAT. OKAY, GREAT. YEAH. GREAT. UM, AND, AND THEN, UH, YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT THE RIGHT OF WAY CARVE OUT WAS A, A CHALLENGING IN THE ANALYSIS. AND I, UH, I WASN'T SURE IF WE COVERED THAT OR IF THAT'S WORTH TALKING ABOUT ANY FURTHER. WELL, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE GONNA PUT TWO DIFFERENT PIECES OF ANALYSIS TOGETHER. SO BEN ANDERSON, WHO'S THE CITY'S ONE OF THE CITY'S URBAN FORESTRY CONTRACTORS, DID A RANDOM SAMPLE AL LIKE RANDOM SAMPLE INVENTORY OF THE STREET TREES OF PETALUMA. SO WE PULLED A SAMPLE OF 10% OF, THEY'RE CALLED STREET SEGMENTS. THEY'RE KINDA LIKE A BLOCK, BUT NOT QUITE. UM, AND HE VISITED EACH ONE OF THOSE STREET SEGMENTS AND INVENTORIED THE TREES THAT ARE THERE AND WHAT HE CONSIDERED AN AVAILABLE PLANTING SPACE. AND I DON'T HAVE ON THE TOP OF MY MIND HIS CRITERIA FOR THAT, BUT BECAUSE HE DOES SO MUCH WORK FOR THE CITY, I THINK HE PROBABLY MADE A REASONABLE ESTIMATE. SO HE FOUND WHEN WE EXTRAPOLATE FROM THAT 10% SAMPLE, THERE SHOULD BE ABOUT 11,000 STREET TREES IN PETALUMA, AND HE THINKS THERE'S ROOM FOR ABOUT 8,000 MORE. UM, I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THE INFORMATION WE GOT FROM THE CANOPY ANALYSIS WAS VERY GOOD BECAUSE BASICALLY IT JUST, IT LOOKED AT EVERY, WELL, I'M JUST GONNA CALL 'EM SQUARE FOOT OF POTENTIAL OF, OF GRASS OR, YOU KNOW, NON NONT TREE, NON IMPERVIOUS SURFACE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. AND SAID, AND THEN JUST SUMMED IT ALL TOGETHER AND SAID THERE'S, I DON'T, WHATEVER THE NUMBER WAS, 200 ACRES, LET'S SAY, OF AVAILABLE PLANTING SPACE. BUT IF YOU HAVE A ONE SQUARE FOOT SPOT HERE AND A ONE SQUARE FOOT DOWN THERE, YOU CAN'T ADD THOSE TOGETHER AND CALL IT A SPOT FOR A TREE. RIGHT? THEY, SO IT WAS JUST A SUMMATION OF ALL THE SPACE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY AS OPPOSED TO LIKE SOMETHING THAT WOULD OBJECTIVELY FIT A TREE. SO THAT'S WHY I'D, I'D FOR THE STREET TREE THING, I'D, I'D RIGHT OF AWAY. I'D LIKE TO PULL MORE FROM BEN'S WORK AND SAY, I THINK WE'VE ROOM FOR ABOUT 8,000. OKAY. GREAT. UM, UH, I, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GONNA GET TO THE DISCUSSION ABOUT, UM, WHAT'S A REALISTIC GOAL OR, AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. THIS IS DEFINITELY THE DISCUSS. I THINK THIS IS ALL ABOUT GOAL SETTING, IS CAN IT BE COVERAGE, THE APPROPRIATE GOAL? IF SO, HOW? I MEAN YEAH, ALL THAT'S I THINK WHAT THIS MEETING IS FOR. YEAH. OKAY. I GUESS I'LL GO BACK TO THE ANECDOTE ABOUT HOW THE BIG IMPACT REALLY FOR ME IS THE STREETS AND MAKING IT MORE BEAUTIFUL AND SHADY AND HOSPITABLE. UM, SO YEAH, I THINK THAT'S, THAT COULD BE A FOCUS OF OUR GOAL MM-HMM . AND, UH, WHETHER WE, YOU KNOW, I'D LOVE TO BE SHOOTING TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, THE BEST TO BE, YOU KNOW, BE GET UP THERE WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT 30% NUMBER. BUT I ALSO TOTALLY UNDERSTAND BEING REALISTIC. LIKE IF, IF WE, IT'S NO FUN TO HAVE A GOAL. WE CAN'T, WE'RE NEVER GONNA, WELL, THE GOAL COULD BE FARTHER IN THE FUTURE TOO, RIGHT? SURE. LIKE IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A 30 YEAR GOAL. THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH. UM, YEAH. YEAH. THAT'S RIGHT. SO, UM, SO YEAH, I, I'M [00:55:01] OPEN TO, TO MORE DISCUSSION ON GOALS AND HOW TO SET THE RIGHT, UH, IF THAT, IF IT'S APPROPRIATE TO DO THAT NOW. YES, ABSOLUTELY. UM, STEPHANIE? YEAH, JUST TO CLARIFY, WE USUALLY SPLIT BETWEEN QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS, BUT BECAUSE THIS IS A PRESENTATION AND WE, UH, DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT, I WILL DO THAT AT THE END. THIS IS KIND OF AN OPPORTUNITY FOR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS. I WANT EVERYBODY TO KIND OF GET ALL THE MATERIAL OUT THERE FOR DISCUSSION. UH, AND STEPHANIE, I NOTICED YOU WERE READY TO GIVE YOUR INPUT. , WAIT BUT WE DO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT, RIGHT? I MEAN, WE HAVE, WE HAVE A PUBLIC TODAY. WE DEFINITELY ARE GONNA, I'M GONNA DO PUBLIC COMMENT, I THINK BY THE BOOK. YOU CORRECT ME, DREW. I DON'T THINK FOR PRESENTATIONS WE GENERALLY ARE REQUIRED PER SE, TO PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT I'M DEFINITELY GONNA DO IT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, STEPHANIE, SORRY. YEAH, WELL, I'VE, I'VE ENJOYED KNOWING YOU AND WHAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING FOR THE PAST YEAR AND QUITE A FEW PEOPLE ON THIS PANEL. AND I JUST WANNA KIND OF SEGUE INTO WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, WHICH IS THAT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING FOR ME IS, I CAN SEE IT, IS TO PLANT TREES IN URBAN, IN THE, UM, RESIDENTIAL AREAS THAT REALLY NEED IT, WHICH OF COURSE INCLUDES THE MIDTOWN AREA. UM, AND EVERYBODY HERE, THAT KNOWS ME, KNOWS THAT THE PROBLEMS JUST JUMP UP RIGHT AWAY. UM, SO I, FIRST OF ALL, I THINK THAT WALKING DOWN THE STREET AND HAVING A CANOPY IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING. AND, UM, LET'S JUST TAKE THE STREET I LIVE ON, IT'S A REALLY LONG STREET, MADISON STREET, AND, UM, THE PLANTING STRIPS I'VE BEEN SENDING YOU PICTURES OF THEM ARE BARREN. AND I KNOW QUITE A FEW OF THE PEOPLE ON THAT STREET, AND EVEN IF WE STUCK TREASON IN THE STREET WITHOUT EVEN GIVING THEM, UM, UM, A CHOICE, THEY WOULD MOSTLY DIE BECAUSE MOST OF THE PEOPLE ON THAT STREET JUST DON'T CARE. AND THEY DON'T, UM, REALLY WANT THEM. THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE COST TO THEM EVENTUALLY. YEAH. UH, YOU KNOW, LAWSUITS, SIDEWALKS AND STUFF. I DON'T SEE IT HAPPENING UNLESS, LITERALLY THERE WAS A CITYWIDE AGREEMENT TO JUST SAY THE CITY'S PLANTING TREES ALL ALONG THE STREET. WE'RE TAKING UP THE, THE CEMENT THAT HAVE THAT, THAT WAS PUT IN MOSTLY BY PEOPLE THAT LIVED THERE BEFORE. THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE NOW, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE, THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY POOR PUBLIC, UH, UH, URBAN PLANNING IN MIDTOWN. AND EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT THE, THE WONDERFUL PLACES LIKE PALO ALTO THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, OR MONTEREY, OR EVEN WEST SIDE OF PETALUMA, THOSE STREETS WERE LAID OUT IN THE FORTIES, FIF, I DON'T KNOW, THIRTIES, TWENTIES, MAYBE. SO WE'RE SUFFERING IN THAT ENTIRE AREA FROM, JUST, FROM THAT MISTAKE THAT WAS MADE IN THE FIFTIES WHEN THOSE, THOSE PLACES WERE LAID OUT. AND I FEEL LIKE, UM, WE SHOULD, W TREES ARE ONE THING, BUT TAKING CARE OF THEM IS OBVIOUSLY, UH, IT'S POINTLESS TO PUT THEM IN UNLESS THERE'S SOME FUN TO TAKE CARE OF THEM. AND ALSO TO TAKE UP THE, THE CEMENT THAT'S BEEN PUT DOWN ON MANY OF THOSE PLANNING STRIPS AND TO KIND OF TELL PEOPLE, THIS IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY. THE CITY IS GOING TO DO IT, AND THE CITY'S GOING TO PUT THESE TREES IN AND THE CITY IS GONNA TAKE CARE OF THEM, OTHERWISE, I DON'T REALLY SEE IT HAPPENING. UM, SO I, I THINK THIS IS A VERY EXCITING DISCUSSION. NOW, THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO MENTION WAS, UM, I HAVE FRIENDS THAT LIVE RIGHT ON OFF OF D STREET ACROSS, UH, YOU KNOW, ON THE, UM, EAST SIDE OF, UM, OF, UM, PETALUMA BOULEVARD, OF LAKEVILLE, THE EAST SIDE OF LAKEVILLE. AND IT'S JUST, I, I CAN WALK ALONG THE LYNCH TREE CREEK TRAIL TO GET TO DOWNTOWN, SO I'M FINE. BUT IF I EVER MADE A FRIEND OVER ON THE OTHER SIDE NEAR LAKEVILLE AND D STREET, THAT WALK FROM THAT SIDE OF TOWN OVER TO DOWNTOWN IS HELLISH . IT'S ABSOLUTELY HELLISH. AND IT SHOULDN'T BE THAT WAY. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT UNTIL THAT BIG EMPTY LOT THERE, SUPPOSEDLY, IT'S, IT'S DEVELOPED. NOBODY, THE CITY DOESN'T WANNA DO ANYTHING, BUT IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY A PUNISHING THING TO ASK PEOPLE TO WALK ACROSS THAT AREA. AND I, I DO IT WITH MY FRIENDS, AND THEY'RE JUST ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, COMPLAINING. WELL, NOW THAT YOU'RE ON THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, THIS IS SOMETHING YOU REALLY, BUT IT'S, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY THE MAJOR WALKWAY BETWEEN ONE SIDE OF TOWN AND, [01:00:01] AND, UH, DOWNTOWN. AND IT'S A DISGRACE THAT IT'S ABSOLUTELY BARREN. YOU FEEL LIKE A FOOL WALKING ALONG THERE, . I MEAN, YOU REALLY DO. JUST HORRIBLE. SO, I DON'T KNOW. I, I LIKE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. IT'S JUST LIKE, LET'S GET SOME OF THE MAJOR WALKWAYS, LET'S PUT TREES IN THERE, AND PLACES LIKE WHERE I LIVE, LET'S JUST TRY TO PROMOTE SOME KIND OF POLICY WHERE WE'RE DOING IT, NOT THE INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNER. AND I CAN TELL YOU JUST, YOU KNOW, RELIEF PLANTED A TREE UP THE STREET FROM ME THAT I WATERED TODAY, BECAUSE THE PEOPLE THAT SAID THEY WANTED IT, DON'T TAKE CARE OF IT. IT'S GONNA DIE. IT'S A WONDERFUL OAK TREE. SO TO ME, IT'S TAKING, WE, WE CAN'T TRUST MOST OF THE, UH, HOMEOWNERS THAT LIVE IN THAT AREA, IF THEY DON'T HAVE TREES IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE, IT PROBABLY MEANS THEY DON'T LIKE THEM AND THEY DON'T CARE. AND WENDY KNOWS THAT. YEAH. 'CAUSE SHE, YOU'RE GREAT ABOUT TALKING TO PEOPLE, BUT YOU CAN ALMOST TELL WHO WOULD SAY, OH, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T WANT ONE, BUT IF, OKAY, FINE, I'LL PUT ONE IN. AND IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE THERE, THEY'RE GONNA LET THAT TREE DIE. ANYWAY, I'LL, I'LL STOP NOW. BUT I, I, I THINK IT'S A REALLY COMPLICATED PROBLEM, BUT I, I LIKE, I'M, I'M HERE HOPEFUL THAT WE CAN, WE CAN ACTUALLY SUPPORT OR PROMOTE WHAT WE THINK IS MOST IMPORTANT ABOUT WHERE WE PUT THOSE TREES. YEP. YEP. THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND I THINK IN THE QUESTION OF GOALS, BEFORE I TURN IT OVER FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, WHAT I'M HEARING FROM A LOT OF COMMITTEE MEMBERS IS, YOU KNOW, DUE TO THE IMPERFECTION IN CANOPY COVERAGE AND THE MATH THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, WHAT DO OTHER CITIES DO IF IT'S NOT A STRICT CANOPY COVERAGE TARGET? IS THERE A TARGET OF LIKE, HEY, HERE ARE THE OVERLAYS OF THE MOST USED THOROUGHFARES IN THE CITY, OR THE THAT, OR, OR WHAT DO OTHER CITIES USE TO TRY TO MAKE AS A SECONDARY TARGET ASIDE FROM JUST THIS CANOPY NUMBER THAT MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, A REALLY BIG ASK? UM, AN INTERIM GOAL, LIKE INTERIM GOALS OF NUMBERS OF TREES, I THINK IS A VERY REASONABLE, LIKE HOW MANY TREES ARE WE GONNA PLAN TO PLANT A YEAR? UM, I LIKE VERY MUCH THE IDEA OF PRIORITIZED AREAS, BUT I'M GONNA TELL YOU THE TRUTH IS A LOT OF CITIES HAVE CANOPY GO GOALS WHERE THEY NEVER DID, DID THE MATH. SO I RECENTLY LOOKED AT A STUDY FROM SAN DIEGO FROM 2017, AND THEY WANTED TO DOUBLE THEIR CANOPY COVER BY 2030, LIKE IN SAN DIEGO. SAN DIEGO IS, IS LIKE, IT'S NOT, TREES DON'T REALLY GROW THERE . AND THERE'S NO WAY THE TREES THAT YOU PLANT, IF EVEN IF YOU PLANTED A MILLION TREES TOMORROW IN, IN 13 YEARS, THEY WOULD STILL BARELY REGISTER IN AN AERIAL IMAGE. SO I THINK THAT IT'S NOT UNCOMMON FOR THERE JUST TO BE A NUMBER THROWN OUT THERE. AND PEOPLE ARE LIKE, WELL, I CAN IMAGINE PLENTY OF PLACES FOR TREES. UM, BUT YOU'VE GOTTA ACTUALLY PUT THEM IN THE GROUND AND PUTTING 'EM IN THE GROUND IS EXPENSIVE AND COMPLICATED. SO WHENEVER YOU, SO I, IF YOU'VE GONE, IF YOU'VE READ OTHER URBAN FOREST MANAGEMENT PLANS, LOOK AT THEIR CANOPY GOAL AND THEN JUST, JUST DO A LITTLE MATH YOURSELF. AND, UH, I THINK OF A CITY THE SIZE OF SAN DIEGO TRYING TO LIKE DOUBLE THE NUMBER OF, OF TREES THAT THEY HAVE IN 13 YEARS. SO, BUT WE WON'T DO THAT. NO, I, I APPRECIATE YOU KIND OF GROUNDING US A LITTLE MATH. WE WANNA BE ASPIRATIONAL TO MARIANNE'S POINT, BUT THIS KIND OF GROUNDS US A LITTLE BIT. AND MARIANNE, UH, ANY QUICK FOLLOW UP? YEAH, I HAD A QUICK QUESTION. UM, IS, WOULD LOOKING AT LIKE HEAT MAPS BE POTENTIALLY A WAY TO PRIORITIZE WHERE TREE CANOPY WOULD MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE? YES. SO THAT IS A PART OF THE, UM, THE PRIORITIZATION SCHEME THOUGH, I'LL TELL YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT THE GOVERNMENT'S HEAT MAPS OF PETALUMA, THEY JUST DON'T LOOK THAT BAD. AND THEN THAT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE SORT OF, THEY'RE, UH, THEY SET THE SCALE FOR THE WHOLE OF CALIFORNIA. SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT FRESNO AND YOU'RE COM, THEN PETALUMA SORT OF GETS SCRUNCHED DOWN. UM, SO I MIGHT SEE IF I CAN TRY TO SHRINK THAT SCALE SO IT'S MORE SUITABLE FOR PETALUMA, WE CAN SEE BETTER WHERE THAT CONTRAST COMES IN. EXCELLENT. UH, TARYN, I'M GOING TO, IS IT A QUICK ONE? YEAH. OKAY. LET'S DO A QUICK ONE THEN. LET'S OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. OKAY. SO, UM, A SOLUTION THAT I DON'T SEE ENOUGH OF THAT, UM, ARE THOSE WATER BIB THINGS, BECAUSE IF WE JUST GET THE TREES WATERED, UM, AND ENSURE THAT THEY'RE WATERED, RIGHT, UH, MINIMAL COST TO THE CITY, UM, THIS IS ALL PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY. SO THE CITY CAN DETERMINE WHAT GOES ON. THEY COULD PUT A WATER BIB OR WELL, OR SOMETHING ON IT. SURE. BUT YOU STILL, SOMEBODY HAS TO FILL IT. AND THEN I WOULD JUST POINT OUT, UH, WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT DESIGN STANDARDS. OUR CITY DOESN'T HAVE DESIGN STANDARDS. RIGHT. AND IF YOU PUSH A LOT OF TREES IN THERE, THAT WOULD BE GOOD. AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS MAYBE OFFER UP A LINE OF A RECOMMENDATION THAT CITY SUPPORT MORE ORGANIZATIONS LIKE RELIEF THAT DO BEAUTIFICATION PROJECTS PER, YOU KNOW, VOTING EVERY YEAR BY THE CITIZENS AND THE CITIZENS GO OUT THERE AND DO A WORKDAY, SOMETHING [01:05:01] LIKE THAT TO COMPLIMENT RELIEFS WORK. SO WE KINDA GET THIS ROBUSTNESS GOING AND WE SPREAD THE CULTURE OF LOVING TREES. YEAH, I THINK THOSE ARE GREAT POINTS. AND I THINK REALLY THE STAGE AND KLEEN, YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, A LOT OF THIS IS ABOUT GETTING WHAT OUR GOAL SETTING IS AT THIS POINT. YEAH. AND THEN THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT MORE INFORMATION, I THINK, COMING FORTH OF LIKE THE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE BARRIERS AND THEN WHAT WE CAN DO POLICY WISE. SO DEFINITELY ALL GREAT POINTS THAT I'M HOPING WE GET TO EXPAND ON. YEAH. UH, FUTURE MEETINGS. I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE EVERY MONTH IF THAT, UH, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. PERFECT. UM, BE CAREFUL WITH YOU. YEAH, WE'LL, WE'LL WANT YOU HERE. THAT'S GOOD GROUNDING FOR ME TOO. YEAH. TERRIFIC. UM, WELL WITH THAT, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS. I WILL OPEN IT UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ISSUE. UH, AND FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, I DON'T HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS. UM, IF, I GUESS IF YOU WANT TO BRING UP SPEAKER CARDS NOW OR JUST COME UP AND RAISE YOUR HAND AND THEN IDENTIFY YOURSELVES ON THE MIC. I THINK THAT'S FINE AS WELL, JUST FOR EASE OF TERRIFIC. AND I THINK WE RECOGNIZE THE FACES HERE AND KNOW WHO FOLKS ARE. UH, I'LL JUST ASK THE CLERK BRIEFLY IF WE GOT ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS, UH, ONLINE PRIOR TO THE MEETING ON THIS ITEM. UH, WE DID GET ONE AND IT'S BEEN POSTED ON THE AGENDA ONLINE. TERRIFIC. THANKS. THANK YOU FOR THAT. WELL THEN, WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, WE WILL OPEN PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM. AND WENDY, I CAN TELL YOU'RE EAGER. AND THEN MAYBE ERIC, UH, AFTER THAT. THANK YOU DARREN AND TREE COMMITTEE. WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR WORK ON ALL THIS. IT'S, UH, A VERY CHALLENGING TOPIC. ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO, RELIEF CAME BEFORE THIS GROUP FOR THE FIRST TIME AND PRESENTED A SUGGESTION OF CALLED 10,000 TREES. WE STILL HAVE THAT SLIDE DECK ON OUR WEBSITE. THE, UM, WE WERE ENCOURAGING AND ADVOCATING FOR THE CITY TO ADOPT THAT PLAN. AND AFTER A YEAR OR SO, UH, IT WAS CLEAR THAT THE CITY WAS NOT READY TO ADOPT THAT PLAN. SO RELIEF HAS TAKEN IT AS BEST WE COULD AS OUR OWN STRATEGIC PLAN. AND FOUR AND A HALF YEARS AGO, WE PERFORMED OUR FIRST PLANTING. WE PLUNGED RIGHT IN WITH 151 TREES AT WISEMAN PARK. AND LAST NIGHT WE WERE OUT THERE WITH A GROUP OF ADVANCED PRUNERS TRYING TO, UM, STRENGTHEN AND PROTECT THOSE TREES. UM, I WANTED TODAY TO JUST REFRESH US A LITTLE BIT ON THE HISTORY AND HOW FAR WE'VE COME IN THOSE FOUR AND A HALF YEARS SINCE WE FIRST STUCK A SHOVEL IN THE GROUND. WE HAVE PLANTED 2300 TREES. WE HAVE, UH, WE WORKED AS ALL VOLUNTEERS, ESPECIALLY DURING THAT FIRST BIG PLANTING, WHICH WAS DIRECTED BY MICHELLE, RAISE YOUR HAND, . SHE GOT THAT DONE WITH HER, WITH HER HUSBAND. THEY GENERAL MANAGED THE PLANTING OF 151 TREES IN ONE DAY. AND CONTINUING ON, WE HAVE APPLIED FOR MANY GRANTS INCLUDING, UH, RELIEF SHEPHERDED, THIS GRANT THAT BROUGHT COLLEEN AND HER EFFORT, AS WELL AS BEN'S INVENTORY AND THE PLANTING OF 77 TREES, WHICH RELIEF TOOK CARE OF, I BELIEVE IT WAS THREE AND A HALF YEARS AGO THAT WE WERE AWARDED THAT GRANT. AND WE'VE APPLIED FOR AND OBTAINED OTHER GRANTS THAT HAVE ENABLED US TO, UM, TO PLANT 2300 TREES AT THIS POINT. AND I JUST WANTED TO SHARE, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE WITH US, IF YOU ARE ABLE TO JOIN US FOR A SHORT CONVERSATION AND RECEPTION AFTERWARDS, SO YOU WOULD KNOW WHAT KINDS OF EXPERTISE THEY HAVE IN RELIEF, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THEM. UM, WE HAVE A REALLY ACTIVE RESIDENTIAL PROGRAM AT THE MOMENT. IT'S GOING INTO ITS SECOND YEAR, AND CAROLYN IS MANAGING THAT. MICHELLE MANAGED IT FOR A WHILE BEFORE THESE TWO FOLKS HAVE EXPERTISE IN GETTING TREES INTO RESIDENTIAL YARDS, COACHING RESIDENTS, UH, SPECIES SELECTION, AND ALL THE VARIOUS PLEASURES AND PROBLEMS THAT GO ALONG WITH THAT. UH, WE PLANTED ABOUT 250 RESIDENTIAL TREES LAST YEAR. IT TOOK A LOT OF EFFORT. IT'S LIKE A RETAIL SERVICE WITH CUSTOMER SERVICE, PROBLEM RESOLUTION, LOTS OF ATTENTION COACHING, AND WE STILL HAVE RESIDENTS SUCH AS TARYN DESCRIBED, WHO WANT TO FORGET ABOUT THEIR TREE ONCE IT'S IN THE GROUND. AND I'M WATERING ONE ON MY STREET TOO. . UM, SO HENRY, THE THREE MINUTES IS UP. . THANK YOU. THAT'S, THAT'S THE END OF THE THREE MINUTES. UM, OKAY. DREW, CAN WE ALLOW SOMEONE TO SEED TIME IF THEY'RE IN THE AUDIENCE RIGHT NOW, AND KIND OF BEND THAT RULE A LITTLE , UH, CORRECT. IF ANYONE'S IN THE AUDIENCE WOULD LIKE TO SEED TIME, YOU CAN JUST IDENTIFY YOURSELF AND, UM, ASK TO SEED YOUR THREE MINUTES AND WE CAN KEEP WENDY ROLLING [01:10:01] MY THREE MINUTES. OKAY. AND CAN WE GET A NAME FOR OUR RECORD? UH, YES. GRACIE MATIKA. THANK YOU, GRACIE. GRACIE MATIKA. TERRIFIC. UH, THANK YOU. SORRY TO BE SO LONG-WINDED. BUT, UM, CAROLYN IS ADDRESSING THE PROBLEM THAT YOU BROUGHT UP WITH OUR TREE CAPTAIN PROGRAM, AND WE ARE, WE HAVE LEARNED FROM THE ARBOR DAY FOUNDATION. WE ARE ALWAYS LEARNING, EXPERIMENTING, RESEARCHING, BUT WE LEARNED FROM THE ARBOR DAY FOUNDATION THAT THE GOLD STANDARD FOR RESIDENTIAL TREES IS TO HAVE TREE CAPTAINS IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE WOULD ENCOURAGE, MOTIVATE, TEACH, COACH, ORGANIZE. THAT'S A LOT OF WORK. AND THEY ARE OUT THERE ON THEIR BLOCKS, UM, WORKING WITH THE RESIDENTS DIRECTLY. SO WE NOW HAVE SIX TREE CAPTAINS WHO ARE WORKING IN THE, IN KILLEN'S ORANGE AREA. RIGHT. THE HEAT ISLAND AREAS IN THE CENTER THAT HAVE LOST THE MOST CANOPY, WHICH CAROLYN HAS RECRUITED AND IS MANAGING. AND, UM, WE ARE ABOUT TO ADD THREE STREETS ON THE WEST SIDE, UM, KEOKUK MOUNTAIN VIEW AND FIFTH STREET. AND WE'VE ALREADY RECRUITED OUR PEOPLE FOR KEOKUK. AND CAROLYN'S GONNA START WORKING WITH THEM SOON. SO THIS IS ALL AN ALL NEW PROGRAM TO, TO ADDRESS SOME OF WHAT WE LEARNED LAST YEAR. AND WE'RE AIMING FOR A COUPLE HUNDRED MORE TREES THIS YEAR, MAYBE MORE WITH OUR TREE CAPTAINS. WE ALSO HAVE A RE OAKING PROJECT WHERE WE ARE PLANTING SEEDLINGS THAT WE RAISE. WE MAY EVEN BE PLANTING ACORNS AT SOME POINT. AND IT'S FOCUSED ON THE OPEN SPACES THAT COLLA MENTIONED WERE SUCH A GREAT OPPORTUNITY. UM, WE HAVE A GOAL OF 750 UNDER THE CURRENT GRANT THAT WE'RE WORKING ON. AND WE'VE PLANTED GOING ON HALF OF THAT. RIGHT. ARE WE CLOSE TO 300? A LOT. , IT'S A LOT OF SEEDLINGS. THEY GET EXPENSIVE PROTECTION. WE ARE IN THIS TO WIN IT IN TERMS OF TREE SURVIVAL. SO EACH SEEDLING GETS A GO FOR CAGE UNDER IT, UM, PREDATOR PROTECTION ON TOP, AND THEN A BIG FENCE AROUND IT TO KEEP IT IN PLACE FROM FLOODING OR LARGER PREDATORS. UM, SO WE HAVE HUNDREDS OF THEM NOW. UH, A LOT OF THEM ARE AT DENMAN REACH. AND, UM, THE REST ARE ALONG THE EAST SIDE CONNECTOR TRAIL, WHICH WE ARE ALMOST FINISHED, TREEING OUT WITH AT LEAST A DOUBLE ROW OF TREES, THE WHOLE FOUR MILES. SPECIAL THANKS TO DREW HALTER WHO HAS BEEN INCREDIBLY HELPFUL IN GETTING THE PLANNING DONE AND THE PERMISSIONS DONE SO THAT WE COULD ACHIEVE THIS. WE'RE ALSO CONTINUING TO PLANT PARKS, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE DONE A LOT TOGETHER. WE'VE, WE'VE KEPT THEM ALIVE AND WE'RE GONNA DO MORE THIS YEAR. AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THE FAIRGROUNDS FOR POTENTIAL AS WELL, THAT'S RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT HEAT ISLAND. UM, CAROLYN, AGAIN, IS MANAGING ALL OF THAT. I WANNA INTRODUCE GRACIE, WHO SEEDED HER TIME TO ME. SHE IS RELIEF'S VOLUNTEER IN CHARGE OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH. SO SHE IS TALKING TO PEOPLE AND PROMOTING TREES, BUT ALSO HEARING WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THEM. AND I HOPE YOU'LL HAVE A CHANCE TO MEET GRACIE AND TALK WITH HER. CAN I, CAN WE GET ONE MORE NAME MORE FOR ANOTHER THREE MINUTES? I'M ALMOST FINISHED. AND, AND CAN YOU SAY YOUR NAME ON THE RECORD? MICHELLE LOFTON. MICHELLE LOFTON. THANK YOU. I PLEASE CONTINUE, WENDY. SORRY, MY, MY LAST REMARK IS THAT, UM, THANK YOU, MICHELLE. WE HAVE, UM, FOCUSED OUR ATTENTION ON, UM, THE URBAN HEAT ISLANDS WITH THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS AS WELL AS LAKEVILLE AND EAST WASHINGTON. AND WE HAVE, UH, OUR ADVOCACY GROUP, WHICH ERIC LEEDS HAS BEEN HERE TO ADVOCATE FOR EAST WASHINGTON BECOMING ONE OF THE PRIORITIES OF THE CITY BECAUSE WE RECOGNIZE THAT IT REQUIRES INTERDEPARTMENTAL FUNDING AND, UM, COOPERATION. AND ALSO LAKEVILLE IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW. WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH DEB AND SOME OTHER FOLKS. SHE'S BEEN WORKING WITH THE COUNTY AND WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA COME BACK AND PUSH A LITTLE BIT TO GET SOME TREES INTO LAKEVILLE, EVEN THOUGH THEY DO HAVE A GRAND PLAN THAT'LL MAKE IT MORE OF A TREELINE BOULEVARD. WHICH BRINGS ME TO MY LAST COMMENT, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT OF AN ASK. IT'S AN IDEA OF HOW WE GET MORE TREES INTO THE PLACES WHERE WE REALLY WANT THEM AND WILL ENJOY THEM ALL THE TIME. AND I, I'M SEEING THAT WITH, WITH DREW. I'M, WE'RE SEEING IT WITH DEB TO THE EXTENT THAT THE CITY CAN TAKE THE RELIEF ASKS FOR WHERE WE WANT TO PUT TREES, WHICH WE HAVE BEEN STUDYING FOR A LONG TIME. LOOKING AT MAPS, LOOKING AT HEAT ISLANDS, TALKING TO PEOPLE, IF THAT COULD BE TREATED AS A PRIORITY AND THE DEPARTMENT'S CHALLENGED TO FIND A WAY TO DO IT. BECAUSE AT THE MOMENT WE'RE, WE'RE DEALING WITH, YOU KNOW, MANY DEPARTMENTS AND WE, WE OFTEN HEAR LIKE, WAIT TWO YEARS OR WE'RE DOING THIS, OR WE HAVE TO DO THAT FIRST, OR, YOU'VE GOTTA TALK TO SO AND SO AND SO AND SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S JUST A LOT GOING ON IN THE CITY [01:15:01] RIGHT NOW. I MEAN, IT'S A, A FAST CHANGING TOWN. AND IF OUR WORK COULD BE GIVEN, OUR SUGGESTIONS COULD BE GIVEN PRIORITY. WE PROMISE NOT TO BE UNREASONABLE. , WE WILL TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE DO THINK ONE WAY TO GET TREASON WHERE THEY COUNT IS TO PRIORITIZE OUR RELIEF ASKS. 'CAUSE I THINK WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD IDEA OF WHERE WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. TERRIFIC. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE UPDATE, WENDY. UH, AND NOW ERIC, UH, IF YOU'D LIKE TO STEP UP FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. THANK YOU. UH, MY NAME'S ERIC LELAND. I'M A, UH, BOARD MEMBER WITH, UH, RELIEF PETALUMA. UM, AND I JUST WANTED TO, UH, UH, THANK THE NEW MEMBERS FOR, UH, STEPPING UP AND, UH, JOINING THIS, UH, GREAT CREW HERE AND EVERYBODY FOR, UH, STEPPING UP AND BEING A VOLUNTEER ON THIS COMMITTEE. UM, AND, UM, I THINK WE HEARD THERE'S A TON OF GREAT INFORMATION FROM COLLEEN. I, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK STICKS IN MY MIND, AND I HOPE STICKS IN YOUR MIND IS, IS, UM, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THIS RARE OPPORTUNITY AS A CITY TO, UM, DO THE MATH, YOU KNOW, AND REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO, UM, PRACTICALLY AND AMBITIOUSLY PUT TREES INTO THE GROUND AND PETALUMA. UM, AND THIS IS A RARE OPPORTUNITY. AND, AND PETALUMA HAS SEIZED A MOMENT IN MANY OCCASIONS TO BE KIND OF THE FIRST OR FORM FOREMOST. YOU KNOW, WE, UH, UM, WE HAD A MORATORIUM AMONG GAS STATIONS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE FIRST IN THE NATION. LIKE WE, WE DON'T SHY AWAY FROM THESE KINDS OF CHALLENGES. AND SO I THINK IT'S A REALLY NEAT TIME TO BE ON THIS COMMITTEE AND FOR ALL OF US TO BE IN THE ROOM, UH, THINKING ABOUT HOW DO WE BUILD A HEALTHY TREE CAMP CANOPY IN PETALUMA. UH, I JUST WANNA, UM, UNDERSCORE, UH, A POINT THAT WENDY MADE AT THE END, WHICH IS, IT'S GONNA REQUIRE ALL OF US. I MEAN, I THINK WE HAVE THIS AMAZING, UM, YOU KNOW, RESOURCE, WHICH IS ALL OF US. THERE'S A TON OF INTEREST IN TREES, BUT WE HAVE TO LEAN IN, RIGHT? WE HAVE TO REALLY LEAN IN AND FIND THESE OPPORTUNITIES AND SORT OF REMOVE BARRIERS TO GETTING THIS DONE. SO PUTTING TREES MORE AT THE FRONT OF CONVERSATIONS FOR DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. UM, SO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE LOTS OF, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC WORKS PROJECTS AND, AND ALL SORTS OF DEVELOPMENT GOING ON IN THE, IN THE CITY. AND THE EARLIER WE'RE IN THESE CONVERSATIONS, THE BETTER WE'RE ABLE TO SORT OF MORE SIMPLY AND ACCURATELY UNDERSTAND WHERE CAN THE TREES GO AND HOW DO WE DO THIS WITHOUT A LOT OF TIME AND COST RIGHT UPFRONT BEFORE DECISIONS ARE MADE, THEY'RE BAKED IN LIKE CLAY, AND YOU END UP PUTTING IT IN THE OVEN AND IT'S HARD. AND NOW YOU CAN'T BREAK, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA BREAK THE POT IF YOU TRY TO CHANGE IT. WE DON'T WANNA DO THAT. WE WANNA BE UPFRONT AND HONEST AND EARNEST ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO, UM, AS A COMMUNITY. SO I JUST WANNA CHALLENGE EVERYBODY TO KIND OF LEAN IN, UM, CONTACT US AT RELIEF. UH, WE CAN HELP YOU LEAN IN AS WELL. WE CAN IDENTIFY SOME OF THOSE BARRIERS. UM, AND THESE AREN'T THESE, NOBODY'S REALLY AT FAULT WITH THESE BARRIERS. THERE'S JUST A LOT GOING ON. THERE'S A LOT OF PRIORITIES. BUT THE MORE THAT YOU CAN HELP US UNCOVER THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET IN EARLIER AND MORE OFTEN, UM, THE BETTER OFF. I THINK WE'RE ALL GONNA BE, WE'RE GONNA GET THESE GOALS DONE. SO AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR, UM, FOR ALL OF YOU, UH, UH, BEING UP HERE TODAY AND, AND, AND THROUGHOUT ALL THE, ALL THE, UM, MEETINGS WE'VE HAD, UH, FOCUSED ON TREES. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU ERIC, AND THANK YOU TO RELIEF. AND CHARLES, UH, IF YOU'D LIKE TO STEP UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, OF COURSE, JUST, UH, SAY YOUR NAME ON THE MICROPHONE FOR THE RECORD AND YOU'LL GET A THREE MINUTE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS PRESENTATION ITEM. I'M CHARLES LITTLE, AND, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DO FOR RELIEF IS, UH, SPEND A FAIR AMOUNT OF TIME TRYING TO KEEP ON TOP OF THE SCIENCE OF WILDFIRES AND TREES AND HOUSES, PARTICULARLY TO YOUR COMMENT BILL. UM, THAT SCIENCE IS EVOLVING ALL THE TIME. AND SOME OF THE WAY TO THE EVIDENCE THESE DAYS IS LEANING TOWARD THE FACT OR TO THE IDEA THAT HOUSES ARE WAY MORE DANGEROUS, UH, SOURCES OF FIRE MOVING THROUGH A COMMUNITY THAN THE TREES ARE. NOW, I'M NOT, I'M NOT SAYING THAT SETTLED SCIENCE, BUT THE SCIENCE IS, THAT'S ONE OF THE DIRECTIONS THAT SCIENCE IS TAKING AT THIS POINT. AND ALSO THE INSURANCE INDUSTRY IS TRYING TO STAY ON TOP OF THE SCIENCE ACTUALLY, WHEN WE KIND OF, KIND OF, UM, THE, THE INSURANCE INDUSTRY, UH, IS RIGHTLY, UM, PEOPLE ARE UNHAPPY WITH WHEN THEY CAN'T, WHEN THEY CAN'T GET INSURANCE FOR THEIR HOMES. BUT, UH, THEY JUST PUT OUT A WHITE PAPER THAT I HAVE WHERE THEY'RE TRYING TO STAY ON TOP OF THE SCIENCE AND BE ACCURATE ABOUT HOW THE RELATIONSHIPS OF THE TREES AND HOUSES, HOW MANY TREES, HOW WELL TAKEN CARE OF THE TREES ARE AND SO ON. SO I JUST, THE, THE BASIC POINT IS THAT THIS SCIENCE IS EVOLVING AND IN MANY CASES IT LOOKS LIKE TREES PLAY A RATHER POSITIVE ROLE WHEN WILDFIRE COMES INTO A COMMUNITY. NOW IT'S NOT ENTIRELY SETTLED, BUT I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION. MAYBE YOU ALREADY KNEW THAT. SO THANK YOU, , THAT IS GREAT INPUT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHARLES. UH, AND WITH THAT UP, [01:20:01] CAROLYN, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME UP FOR THREE MINUTES, WE'RE, I THINK WE'RE APPROACHING THE END OF OUR MEETING TIME, BUT PLEASE COME UP AND, UH, GIVE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM. HI, I AM CAROLYN LA PROJECT MANAGER, UH, FOR RELIEF PETALUMA. AND THANKS TO COLLEEN FOR THE, HER IMPORTANT WORK AND ALL OF YOUR IMPORTANT WORK. AND I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT, I DID PUT IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT, SO IT'LL BE ON THE, UM, AGENDA, BUT, UM, I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY TRYING TO PUT THE TREES IN THE HARD PLACES AND I WANTED TO DRAW ATTENTION TO RELIEF. UM, WE HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD TREE CAPTAINS WHO ARE SEARCHING FOR TREES IN NEIGHBORHOOD, SEARCHING FOR SPOTS FOR SHADE TREES IN NEIGHBORHOODS. BUT NOW WE ARE ALSO HOSTING COMMUNITY EVENTS. WE'RE ASKING COMMUNITY MEMBERS STARTING THIS SATURDAY TO COME AND IN THE LOW CANOPY AREAS, UM, WHICH WE HAVE MAPPED OUT TO HELP US FLYER AND TALK TO NEIGHBORS ABOUT TAKING A FREE RELIEF TREE, YOU KNOW, PAID FOR BY THE PETALUMA CANOPY GRANT. SO I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT WE'RE WORKING HARD ON THAT RIGHT NOW, , SO THANKS VERY MUCH. MM-HMM . EXCELLENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT, CAROLYN. AND WITH THAT, I THINK WE HAVE GIVEN OUR FULL PUBLIC COMMENT, SO I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD ON THE PRESENTATION ITEM. AND LIKE I SAID, WE ARE RUNNING INTO WHAT IS KIND OF FEASIBLY THE END OF OUR TIME 'CAUSE WE HAVE ANOTHER GROUP COMING IN TO HAVE A MEETING. UH, BUT ANY QUICK FINAL THOUGHTS, ESPECIALLY ON GOAL SETTING, IF YOU THINK 30% CANOPY IS THE WAY TO GO. ANY OTHER IDEAS YOU WANT TO THROW OUT AGAIN FOR KIND OF THIS GOAL SETTING AS A CITY FOR WHERE YOU THINK WE SHOULD GO? UM, MARYANNE, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I AGREE WITH THE EMPHASIS ON STREET TREES. I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT AND WILL REALLY HAVE A MAJOR IMPACT ON QUALITY OF LIFE IN PETALUMA. GREAT FEEDBACK. UH, DIANE, I ALSO WANTED TO SEE IF WE CAN FOCUS ON THE TREES THAT WE HAVE, MATURE TREES THAT ARE SERVING, YOU KNOW, AS GREAT SHADE. AND I SEE WE'RE LOSING A LOT OF THOSE IN COORDINATION WITH ALL THESE LITTLE TREES THAT ARE BEING PLANTED. AND IS THERE A WAY TO HAVE MORE PROTECTION FOR THEM OR EDUCATION TO THE PUBLIC OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO TO SAVE WHAT WE'VE ALREADY GOT? I THINK THAT'S A MASSIVE, UH, TOPIC THAT YEAH, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT COMING WITH THAT I THINK WITH LIKE THE TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE AND SOME OTHER THINGS, BUT A GREAT POINT TO, TO BRING UP. OKAY. UM, TERRAN, THANK YOU. UM, ONE POINT THAT INTERSECTS WITH THE SOCIOECONOMIC, UM, UNDERSERVED AND MORE HEAT ISLAND NEIGHBORHOODS IS, AS YOU KNOW, FROM WALKING THE NEIGHBORHOODS, THERE'S A LOT OF RENTALS. RENTERS DON'T WANT BECAUSE THEY CAN'T MAKE THE DECISION. RENTER LANDOWNERS DON'T WANT IT. SO IN THOSE TYPES OF INSTANCES, I THINK PULL THAT UP TO THE TOP OF THE LIST OF WHERE THE CITY COULD PRIORITIZE GOING IN THERE AND SAYING, HEY, IT'S OUR RIGHT OF WAY, WE'RE PUTTING A TREE IN BECAUSE OTHERWISE YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET IT. 'CAUSE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, THE RENTALS ARE THE ONES THAT JUST CHOP 'EM DOWN ALL THE TIME. THEY WANNA MAXIMIZE THAT PROFIT, THEIR EXPENSES ARE GOING UP. SO MAYBE PRIORITIZE THOSE DISTRESSED AREAS. THANK YOU. GOOD IDEA AS WELL. UM, STEPHANIE? I I AGREE TARYN, I I WOULD'VE BROUGHT IT UP IF YOU HADN'T THERE. THAT, THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BLOCK, THE ONE BLOCK I LIVE ON AND THE THREE RENTALS, THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO TREES ON THEM. AND THE PEOPLE I'VE TALKED TO, ALL OF THE RENTERS, ALL OF THEM WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A TREE. AND I'LL SAY, WELL, GO CONTACT YOUR LANDLORD. I NEVER HEAR FROM THEM AGAIN. THEY JUST DON'T WANNA MAKE ANY TROUBLE. BUT I, I, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT POINT. THANK YOU FOR THAT. UH, BILL, ANY CLOSING THOUGHTS ON GOAL SETTING? YEAH, THESE ARE ALL BIG ISSUES. I THINK THAT'S WHAT REALLY BROUGHT ME TO THIS COMMITTEE. EIGHT, WHATEVER YEARS AGO WAS REALLY, UM, UH, AND, AND I THINK WITH THE TPO, THE TREE PROTECTION ORDINANCE THAT'S COMING UP FOR REVIEW SOON, UH, WE'VE SEEN A FEW DRAFTS ON IT. THERE IS THIS BIG ISSUE OF THE CARROT AND THE STICK. UH, SO THE CARROT OF SORT OF RELIEF GOING OUT THERE AND SAY, HEY, WE'LL GIVE YOU A FREE TREE IF YOU WANT IT. LET'S GO. AND WE'VE HAD SOME SUCCESS. IT'S A LOT OF WORK TOO TO GET THERE, WHAT, FROM WHAT I'M HEARING. BUT IT'S BEEN WONDERFUL TO SEE THAT THAT'S LIKE REALLY THE, THE BIGGEST IMPACT IN, IN THE LAST 15 MY, UH, YEARS LIVING HERE. UH, BUT THERE'S THIS, THE STICK APPROACH IS LIKE, HEY, WHAT ABOUT THE FOLKS WHO, WHO DON'T CARE ABOUT THEIR PLANTER STRIP, BUT WE CARE ABOUT WALKING ALONG THAT STREET. AND, AND I THINK OUR COMMUNITY CAN BE BETTER SERVED [01:25:01] IF THERE IS SOME KIND OF WAY TO COMPEL OUR PROPERTY OWNERS TO ALLOW FOR A TREE ON THEIR RIGHT OF WAY IF THEY DON'T WANT IT. AND I'M NOT SURE HOW WE'RE GONNA GET THERE, BUT THERE WAS SOME PUSHBACK IN A PREVIOUS CONVERSATION WITH PLANNING AND BEN, BECAUSE LIKE, HOW DO YOU COMPEL OUR, OUR, OUR, OUR FELLOW PROPERTY RESIDENTS TO, TO DO THAT? UM, ANYWAY, BIGGER ISSUE AROUND GOAL SETTING. UH, I LOVE THE IDEA OF 30%. I DON'T THINK IT'S REALISTIC. SO MAYBE THERE'S SOME THOUSAND NUMBERS OF TREES PER YEAR TO, UH, OUR, OUR RELIEF FOLKS CAN HELP US GET TO A REALISTIC NUMBER. BUT, UM, MAYBE IT'S A, THAT 30% OR, UH, LIVES AS A, YOU KNOW, A FUTURE GOAL IS. THAT'S GREAT FEEDBACK. GREAT FEEDBACK. AND, AND I AGREE. I THINK THERE'S SOME OTHER KIND OF GOAL SETTING WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET OUR HEADS WRAPPED AROUND. I LOVE LIKE A SOCIOECONOMIC LAYER. I LOVE, EVEN THOUGH IMPERVIOUS SURFACE FOR THE CANOPY CALCULATIONS KIND OF INCLUDED, I'M A BIG FAN OF FIGURING OUT HOW DO WE COVER AS MUCH IMPERVIOUS SURFACE AS POSSIBLE. UH, AND I THINK FOR ME, WHEN IT COMES TO GOAL SETTING, WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT TOOLS WE HAVE ACCESS TO. IT'S COME UP A LOT UP HERE, LIKE, WHAT IS THE ABILITY FOR THE CITY TO INVEST OR HELP WITH THESE THINGS? THAT USUALLY NECESSITATES FINDING SOME SOURCE OF FUNDING, WHICH IT MAY HELP HAVING SOMETHING IN OUR UFMP THAT IS KIND OF A LOCUS OF LEGITIMACY TO BUILD A FUTURE DEPARTMENT OR A NEW FUNDING MECHANISM THAT WE CAN USE TO HAVE THE CITY HELP SHOULDER SOME OF THIS LIFT, ESPECIALLY FOR PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS AND THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. I'D ALSO SAY ANOTHER KNOB THAT I'M CURIOUS, WHAT WE CAN TURN AS A CITY IS DESIGN REQUIREMENTS, UM, BOTH FOR PUBLIC WORK PROJECTS AS WELL AS FOR PLANNING PROJECTS. I THINK I BROUGHT IT UP KIND OF FRANTICALLY AT THE END OF THE LAST WORKING GROUP MEETING, UH, WHICH IS WHAT WE DO ABOUT NEW PROJECTS, ESPECIALLY THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE. AND THERE'S A BIG KIND OF PUSH PULL. I'M ALREADY SEEING IN DESIGN REVIEWS ABOUT WHEN YOU HAVE A A PARKING LOT, DO WE PLANT TREES THERE OR DO WE OPT FOR A PHOTOVOLTAIC, UH, SHADE COVER OVER THE PARKING SPACES? AND ALMOST EVERYONE ON THE DAIS AT THE LAST TIME THIS CAME UP, INCLUDING PAST MEMBERS OF TAC, UM, WE'RE SAYING, NO, DON'T DO TREES IN THE PARKING LOT, DO THAT, UH, COVER WITH THE PHOTOVOLTAIC PANEL. SO I THINK THERE'S GONNA BE SOME PUSH PULL THERE THAT I WOULD LOVE TO GET TO THE ROUTE TO IN DESIGN STANDARDS. IT'S IN OUR OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS NOW WHERE YOU CAN KIND OF EITHER OR LIKE, HEY, HIT A 30% COVER OF ASPHALT, UH, PARKING SURFACE AND DO IT EITHER WITH TREES OR A SHADE COVER. UM, AND SO THAT'S ONE AREA THAT I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT FOR US TO BE ABLE TO MOVE THE NEEDLE TO SAY, LET'S PRIORITIZE TREES BECAUSE NOT ONLY IS IT JUST ABOUT SHADE, IT'S ABOUT ALL THE OTHER NUMEROUS BENEFITS TREES GIVE. SO, SO AGAIN, FOR ME, GOAL SETTING IS ALSO REALLY GETTING CLEAR ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT LEVERS WE CAN TURN AS A CITY AND WHAT KIND OF INVESTMENT THERE IS BEFORE WE KNOW HOW AMBITIOUS WE CAN BE. UH, SO I GUESS IT'S KIND OF DOING IT AT THE SAME TIME. UM, BUT THANK YOU COLLEEN, SO MUCH FOR THAT PRESENTATION. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE DISCUSSION ON THE DAAS AS WELL AS THE AMAZING SUPPORT FROM RELIEF. I THINK WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, THIS UFMP HAS TO HAVE MANY PAGES DEDICATED TO RELIEF AS CITY PARTNERS AND WHAT ROLE THEY'RE GONNA PLAY AND HOW WE CAN HELP IN KIND OF POWERING THEM UP TO DO WHAT THEY DO BEST. SO, UM, THANK YOU COLLEEN, FOR THE UPDATES AND YOU'VE VOLUNTEERED YOURSELF FOR EVERY TAC MEETING. SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU NEXT TIME NEXT MONTH. FANTASTIC. WELL, UH, WITH THAT I WILL CLOSE THE PRESENTATION ITEM, UH, AND MOVE US INTO [APPROVAL OF MINUTES] APPROVAL OF MINUTES. SO WE WILL BE LOOKING AT TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE MEETING OF MAY 21ST, 2025. I'LL JUST LOOK AROUND IF ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. I GUESS OUR NEW MEMBERS WOULD TECHNICALLY HAVE TO RECUSE THEMSELVES, BUT WE STILL GOT FOUR MEMBERS, SO I THINK WE'RE OKAY TO APPROVE THEM BY A CLAIM IF NO ONE HAS CHANGES. OKAY. TERRIFIC. ANY CHANGES, QUESTIONS ON MINUTES? I'LL JUST SAY PLEASE AGAIN, CAN YOU TURN ON THE AI NOTE TAKER? THANK YOU. IT'D BE GREAT IF OUR CITY WOULD GET WITH THE TIMES ON THAT. THANK YOU. UH, OKAY. TERRIFIC. WELL THEN IF YOU DON'T HAVE, I, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT POINT. I'M GROWING MORE AND MORE USED TO IT. SO WITH THAT THEN THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED FOR MAY 21ST AND WE'LL MOVE ON FROM APPROVAL OF MINUTES. UH, THERE ARE NO PUBLIC HEARINGS OR MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION, SO WE'LL MOVE [COMMITTEE COMMENT] STRAIGHT INTO COMMITTEE COMMENT. AND THIS IS WHERE WE GO AROUND OUR GROUP AND JUST GIVE A BRIEF UPDATE ON EITHER LIAISON APPOINTMENTS WITH OTHER COMMITTEES WITHIN THE CITY OR OTHER SUBJECT MATTER RELEVANT TO THIS COMMITTEE, UM, THAT YOU HAVE COME ACROSS OR ENGAGED IN THAT YOU WANT TO GIVE OUR OTHER MEMBERS A QUICK UPDATE. AND I WILL START ON MY RIGHT WITH DIANE IF THERE'S ANY COMMITTEE COMMENTS AND IT'S TOTALLY OKAY TO SAY NO, NOT AT THIS TIME. NO PROBLEM. UH, TARAN, ANY COMMITTEE COMMENT, I WILL JUST SAY THAT I'VE HEARD FROM SOME CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS PER SOME OF THE COMMENTS FROM RELIEF TONIGHT. UM, GET A REVIEW OF UPCOMING AGENDA ITEMS FOR THE CITY COUNCIL AND MEET WITH CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS MONTHLY [01:30:01] AND TELL THEM YOU WANT TREES ON THIS PROJECT, THAT PROJECT, THAT PROJECT. OTHERWISE IT'S GETTING A GET LOST IN THE NOISE. YOU GOTTA LOBBY THEM EVERY MONTH AND YOU GOTTA GET THAT ADVANCED AGENDA, WHICH IS POSTED IN UPCOMING AGENDAS ON EVERY MEETING AGENDA. THAT WILL MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN KEEPING TREES FRONT OF MIND WHEN THEY'RE MAKING DECISIONS. PLANNING COMMISSIONERS TOO. THANK YOU. I'LL SAY THAT'S A GREAT POINT FOR NOT ONLY MEMBERS OF RELIEF, BUT REALLY FOR MEMBERS OF THIS GROUP, YOU KNOW, AS INDIVIDUALS, YOU CAN ALWAYS SAY YOU'RE A MEMBER OF TREE COMMITTEE AND IF YOU SEE A PROJECT OR AN ISSUE COMING BEFORE PLANNING COMMISSION, CITY COUNCIL, WHATEVER IT MAY BE, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO USE THE WEIGHT OF THIS COMMITTEE TO ADVOCATE FOR A TREE POSITION. UH, AND IDEALLY WE'LL HAVE MEMBERS THAT CAN WORK WITH RELIEF TO KIND OF SEND THAT MESSAGING, AND I KNOW IT'S ALREADY HAPPENING. UM, BILL, DO YOU HAVE ANY UPDATES? COMMITTEE COMMENT? UH, JUST GREAT TO SEE A LOT OF, UH, TREES GETTING PLANTED AT THE HIGH SCHOOL HERE. THEY'RE, UH, IMPROVED THEIR, UH, SQUARE SORT OF, YOU KNOW, THEIR AREA FOR, UH, FOR THE STUDENTS TO HANG OUT AND GET SOME MORE SHADE THERE. AND THEN ALSO SOME FOLKS ON D STREET, UH, PUT SOME TREES IN THE GROUND. UH, APPRECIATE, UH, APPRECIATE THEIR WORK ON THAT. GREAT UPDATE, STEPHANIE. YEAH, I'M, I'M REALLY HAPPY TO SEE MY, SOME OF MY FRIENDS FROM RELIEF HERE, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE IN MIDTOWN. AND I, I DEEPLY RESPECT, THERE'S WENDY WAY OUT THERE, BUT I, I'VE GONE AROUND AND CAMP, I DON'T WANNA USE THE WORD CAMPAIGNED, BUT . I'VE TRIED TO PROMOTE TREES IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND SHE JUST DOESN'T GIVE UP. NONE OF YOU GIVE UP. YOU JUST KEEP COMING BACK. AND, UM, AND I, I DO HAVE ACTUALLY SOME NAMES OF PEOPLE THAT SAID THEY WANTED THEM, SO I'LL, I'LL TOUCH BASES WITH YOU AFTER THE MEETING, BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS A LOT. GREAT. THANK YOU FOR THAT. UH, MARIANNE, ANY UPDATES FROM PARKS AND REC OR ANYTHING ELSE? UH, WE DID NOT HAVE A MEETING IN JULY, SO NO REAL UPDATES OTHER THAN THE GREAT SUCCESS OF THE FAIR AND ALL THE GREAT FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT ABOUT WHAT A GREAT EVENT THAT WAS AND HOW MUCH WORK CITY STAFF PUT INTO IT. SO CONGRATULATIONS, DREW. EXCELLENT. AND THAT MAY BE A PERFECT LEAD INTO [STAFF COMMENT] OUR NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS, UH, STAFF COMMENT. DREW, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU FOR STAFF UPDATES AND COMMENT. YEAH, THANK YOU CHAIR. UM, WELCOME NEW COMMITTEE MEMBERS. UH, IT'S EXCITING TO BE HERE TONIGHT. UM, YES, AGAIN, MARYANNE, UM, FROM THE RMPC, WE DID MEET IN JULY, AND THE BIGGEST NEWS OUTTA THAT MEETING WAS, UH, MARYANNE IS NOW THE CHAIR OF THE RECREATION, MUSIC AND PARKS COMMISSION. SO CONGRATULATIONS, MARYANNE. SHE'S, UH, AGREED TO TAKE THE HELM ON THAT COMMISSION FOR THE NEXT YEAR, HAVING SERVED AS THE VICE CHAIR FOR A YEAR. SHE'S, UH, READY TO GO. UH, AND WE'RE EXCITED TO, TO START IN SEPTEMBER. SO, KEEPING IN LINE WITH THAT, I JUST WANTED TO CIRCLE BACK TO, I THINK YOU PREP, UH, PROMPT ME TO TALK ABOUT PROCESS A LITTLE BIT. AND, AND TYPICALLY YES, GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, UH, FOLLOWS OUR MOST PRESENTATION ITEMS ON THE AGENDAS. UM, BUT FOR TONIGHT, WE, WE HAD, UM, OUR PRESENTATION FOLLOWING, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT. SO TYPICALLY YOU'LL SEE PRESENTATION AND THEN WE'LL CAPTURE ALL OF THE COMMENTS UNDER GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. BUT IT WAS HANDLED CORRECTLY TONIGHT, WHICH IS, WE GOT TO KIND OF DOUBLE DIP, WHICH IS GREAT. SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE FOLLOWED THAT. AND I AM EXCITED TO TALK ABOUT, UH, THE LIBRARY IS, UH, HAVING THEIR GRANT OPENING ON THE 24TH. SO THIS IS, UH, MANY, UH, MONTHS TURNED INTO YEARS IN THE MAKING. UM, BUT ENCOURAGE YOU ALL, UH, TO GO CHECK OUT YOUR LIBRARY. UM, IT'S BEEN A FANTASTIC WORK. SOMETIMES, UM, PROCESS IS NEVER AS QUICK AS WE ALL, UH, HOPED, INTEND, BUT IN, IN THIS CASE, UH, I THINK THAT THE WEIGHT WAS WORTH IT. AND WE'VE COME TO REALLY LOVE AND APPRECIATE OUR LITTLE LIBRARY IN THE KENWORTH TEEN CENTER. UM, SO IT, IT KIND OF COMES AT A MIXED BAG OF A LOT OF PEOPLE SEEM VERY SAD TO SEE KINDA THAT COZY SPACE GO, UH, BUT REALLY GIVE A LOT OF CREDIT TO THE, THE SONOMA COUNTY LIBRARY FOLKS, THE GO COORDINATION AND PARTNERS. THEY HAVE BEEN WITH THE CITY. UH, SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. THANK YOU FOR THE WAIT. AND PLEASE, PLEASE GO CHECK OUT YOUR LIBRARY. UH, EXCITED AGAIN, UH, TO BE WORKING WITH RELIEF. THEY'LL BE BACK IN SEPTEMBER, I BELIEVE, TO TALK ABOUT, UM, NEXT KIND OF NEXT TRANCHE OF OF PARK PLANTINGS. UH, THE BIG NOTABLE ONE IS OUR PEDAL, THE COMMUNITY SPORTS FIELDS. UM, I'M, I'M PERHAPS MAYBE MORE BIASED 'CAUSE WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT TREES AT THE SPORTS FIELD FOR, FOR MANY, MANY A YEAR. AND THOSE THAT ARE FAMILIAR WITH THAT PARK, [01:35:01] UH, IT'S IN DESPERATE NEED. THERE'S A, A LONG KIND OF A BARREL OF A PARKING LOT, UH, THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN INTENDED TO HAVE, UH, TREES IN THOSE FINGER LAND ISLANDS. UH, THE METERS WERE INSTALLED, UH, LAST YEAR. THERE'S BEEN IRRIGATION LINES CONNECTED, AND WE'RE JUST KIND OF WAITING TO GET THE FINAL TREES IN THIS FALL AND THE FIRST PART OF NEW YEAR. SO THAT'S A BIG ONE. UH, MANY TREES. BUT, UH, WHEN THE CONDITIONS ARE RIGHT FOR THE PLANTING, EVERYTHING WILL BE SET AND, UM, THEY'LL BE COMING BACK, UH, AND PRESENTING PLANTING PLANS. SO YOU'LL SEE WHAT, WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE. BUT THAT WAS ONE I WANTED TO FLAG AMONG THE OTHER TREE, UH, PROJECTS THAT WE'RE REALLY, REALLY EXCITED ABOUT. UM, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YEAH, SUPER, SUPER BRIEF. YEAH, PLEASE, DREW, I'M NOT SINCE UP FOR, SINCE I'M NEW. YOU GET, YOU GET THE GRACE. YES, PLEASE. JUMPING, I THINK DREW, DREW KNOWS ABOUT THIS, BUT, UM, I JUST WANTED TO TELL EVERYBODY THAT, UM, THAT, UH, PETALUMA WETLANDS ALLIANCE IS, IS, UH, HOLDING A DEDICATION CEREMONY AND DREW'S INVOLVED IN THAT, UM, ON SEPTEMBER 2ND. AND IT'S A, A DEDICATION OF WHAT WAS GONNA BE AN AMPHITHEATER, BUT HAS NOW BEEN, UH, REDUCED IN SIZE TO A, UM, A GATHERING PLACE, IS WHAT WE'RE CALLING IT. AND IT'S AT TWO, IT'S UM, SEPTEMBER 2ND, IT'S AT FOUR O'CLOCK. AND IT'S, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO A LOT OF OUR FOLKS WHO ARE IN THE, IN THE WETLANDS AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL, UM, MOVEMENT HERE. SO, UM, THERE'S GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT OF MUSIC. I'M NOT SURE WHO IN THE CITY IS GOING TO BE THERE. MAYBE YOU WILL BE GOOD. AND IT'LL BE A SHORT CEREMONY. IT'S AT FOUR O'CLOCK, SO PLEASE MAKE A NOTE OF THAT IF YOU ARE A SCHULLENBERGER FAN. THANK YOU. NO PROBLEM. AND JUST QUICK PROCESS NOTE, BECAUSE WE ALL DO A COMMITTEE COMMENT AND THEN OF COURSE WE THINK IS SOMETHING AFTER. YEAH, WE USUALLY LET STAFF COMMENT GO AND THEN JUMP IN AFTER THAT, BEFORE THE MEETING CLOSES, BUT NO PROBLEM. BUT LIKE YOU SAID, YOU'RE DUE, YOU GET CRAZY AND DREW IS OKAY WITH IT, MOST IMPORTANTLY. SO DREW WILL LET YOU, WE'LL LET YOU CONTINUE. OKAY? ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. UH, JUST TWO FINAL ITEMS. UH, THIS COMING SATURDAY, UH, IS THE PICTURE DAY SOCCER FEST FOR OUR PETALUMA YOUTH SOCCER LEAGUE. SO I ALWAYS WANNA FLAG THIS EVENT. UM, WE'VE GOT ALMOST 2,500 YOUTH SOCCER PARTICIPANTS. THIS IS REC LEAGUE SOCCER. UM, SO JUST BE AWARE, RIGHT? IF YOU'RE NOT A SOCCER FAN, UM, OR NOT INTENDING TO BE IMMERSED IN THAT, JUST PROBABLY AVOID PRINCE PARK, UH, ON SATURDAY. BUT IF YOU ARE, COME DOWN AND JOIN, UM, THOUSANDS OF YOUR FELLOW COHORTS FOR, UH, A GREAT COMMUNITY KICKOFF TO THEIR FALL SOCCER SEASON. AND, AND, AND I ALSO WANTED TO FLAG FOR THIS COM COMMITTEE, ESPECIALLY IN THE COMMUNITY, ONE OF THE BIG OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE SEE, UH, THROUGH KLAN'S PRESENTATION IS, UM, YOU KNOW, REALLY ENGAGING THOSE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY OWNERS TO LOOK AT THE LANDSCAPES AND THE SURROUNDINGS OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. WE HAVE, AS A CITY, HAVE REALLY UNDERTAKEN THIS INITIATIVE TO, TO REFORM OUR LANDSCAPE ASSESSMENT DISTRICTS, OUR LEDS. UH, WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS PROCESS OF SENDING OUT A LOT OF MAILERS. WE'VE DONE SURVEYS, WE'VE DONE FINANCIAL AUDITS TO GROUP OUR 48 PLUS LADS INTO, UM, KIND OF THREE, THREE GROUPS KNOWING WE'RE NOT ABLE TO TAKE ON EVERY LAD EVERY YEAR, RIGHT? BUT WE'VE GOT ABOUT A DOZEN OR SO IN YEAR ONE, FOLLOWED BY A DOZEN OR SO IN YEAR TWO, SO ON. AND THIS, UH, FALL FROM, FROM NOW TILL DECEMBER. WE'LL BE ENGAGING WITH SOME OF THE, THOSE LADS WITH, UM, ONLINE WEBINARS AND RECORDINGS TO PRESENT BACK TO THEM, UM, THE SITUATION OF THEIR LADS, WHERE THEIR FUNDING IS, WHAT THEIR OPPORTUNITIES ARE. BUT REALLY WHAT WE'RE HEARING SO FAR, UH, WITH NO SURPRISE TO YOU, IS PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED OR HAVE RECOGNIZED TREE CARE AS ONE OF THEIR BIGGEST OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THEIR LADS FOR, FOR STREET IMPROVEMENTS. UM, THEY WANNA SEE, UH, HIGHER STANDARDS FOR MAINTENANCE. THEY WANNA SEE PATHWAYS THAT ARE SAFE AND NAVIGABLE. SO WHILE NOT DIRECTLY RELATED TO A TREE COMMITTEE, THIS IS ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY NOW WITH NEW DATA AND NEW SKILL SETS, WE HAVE TO HELP ROUND OUT THAT CONVERSATION AND PRESENT BACK HOMEOWNERS THAT MAY BE TENTATIVE TO PLANT OR CARE FOR A TREE IN THEIR OWN PROPERTY, BUT MAY LOOK AT THEIR FRONTAGES MEDIUMS, LANDSCAPES A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY AND POTENTIALLY AGREE AS A, AS A, AS A LAD OR, OR OR PARCEL, UM, A GROUP OF PARCELS TO HELP FUND THESE TYPES OF PROGRAMS COLLECTIVELY. SO I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT'S [01:40:01] THE FIRST FEW WILL BE GOING ON BETWEEN NOW AND DECEMBER. UM, BUT I'LL PROVIDE MORE UPDATES AND WE'RE JUST GONNA KIND OF LEARN AS WE GO THROUGH THE FIRST ENGAGEMENT, TRY TO RETOOL CHANGE ANYTHING WE NEED TO. BUT, UM, BY THE TIME WE GET TO YOUR LADS, OR, OR, UM, AT LEAST THROUGH THE FIRST COUPLE, WE SHOULD HAVE A, A PRETTY GOOD SYSTEM AND IDEA OF HOW WE CAN, UM, ROLL THIS OUT. SO I WANTED TO FLAG THAT MORE TO COME, BUT, UM, IF YOU'RE IN, I THINK OUR FIRST IS WILLOW GLEN, UM, I SHOULD KNOW, BUT THE FIRST COUPLE IS, UH, COMING IN A FEW WEEKS. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU CHAIR. THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE, DREW. AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT SOME BIG TOPICS AND LADS IS CERTAINLY A PRETTY MASSIVE UNDERTAKING. WELL, WITH THAT, UH, WE WILL CLOSE OUR MEETING AND ADJOURN HERE AT 5:11 PM THANK YOU TO COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND THE PUBLIC. MM-HMM . * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.