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[CALL TO ORDER]

[00:00:03]

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT, EVERYBODY.

THANK YOU.

HERE WE ARE AT 6 0 2 ON TUESDAY, AUGUST 26TH, 2025 FOR OUR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.

WE'LL START THINGS OFF BY CONFIRMING THAT THE VIDEO IS STREAMING ACTIVELY.

I KNOW WE'D HAD SOME ISSUES.

WE'RE GOOD.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND THEN I'VE GOT A NOTE HERE FOR THE LIAISON TO GIVE US A QUICK PREAMBLE AT THE TOP OF THE MEETING.

GREAT.

THANK YOU, CHAIR.

UM, I BELIEVE IT WAS AT THE LAST MEETING THAT WE HAD SOME CHALLENGES WITH STREAMING OF THE MEETING.

AND SO WE FOLLOWED UP, UH, WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND WANT TO SHARE THAT THE CITY OF PETALUMA STRIVES TO PROVIDE LIVE STREAMING AND RECORDINGS OF PUBLIC MEETINGS TO PROMOTE TRANSPARENCY AND PUBLIC ACCESS.

HOWEVER, LIVE STREAMING IS NOT LEGALLY REQUIRED AND MAY BE UNAVAILABLE FROM TIME TO TIME DUE TO TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.

WHILE WE ENDEAVOR TO ENSURE STREAMING IS FUNCTIONAL FOR ALL MEETINGS, IT IS NOT GUARANTEED.

IN THE UNLIKELY EVENT OF A DISRUPTION IN VIDEO STREAMING, STAFF WILL CONSULT WITH THE COMMISSION'S CHAIR ABOUT HOW TO PROCEED.

AND I WOULD NOTE THAT THIS EVENING, WE DO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE CITY IT DEPARTMENT, UM, HERE AT THE START OF THE MEETING TO ENSURE THAT, UH, ALL OF OUR TECHNOLOGY IS WORKING APPROPRIATELY.

AND I DO, I CAN CONFIRM THAT WE ARE STREAMING THIS MEETING NOW.

THANK YOU, CHAIR.

EXCELLENT.

GLAD TO HEAR IT.

IN THAT CASE, WE'LL CALL TO ORDER OUR MEETING TONIGHT,

[ROLL CALL]

AND I'LL ASK THE, UH, CLERK TO PLEASE TAKE ROLE.

COMMISSIONER EBNER PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER GOLDMAN HERE.

COMMISSIONER NEWELL.

HERE.

COMMISSIONER KUSON.

ABSENT.

COMMISSIONER HILT HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLE.

PRESENT CHAIR MOSES.

HERE.

WE HAVE A QUORUM.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UM, BEFORE WE HEAD INTO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, I'M GONNA MAKE A QUICK ADJUSTMENT TO OUR AGENDA TONIGHT.

JUST GIVEN THE ORDER OF OPERATIONS AND WHO IS GOING TO BE STICKING AROUND FOR WHICH AGENDA ITEMS. I'M GOING TO FLOP SIX AND SEVEN.

SO INSTEAD OF THE, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION GOING LAST, WE'LL DO THAT SECOND TO LAST AND SAVE OUR PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE FINAL, UM, BIG TICKET ITEM OF THE AGENDA.

WITH THAT, I AM GOING TO HEAD INTO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.

DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON ITEMS OF PUBLIC INTEREST THAT ARE WITHIN THE PLANNING COMMISSION SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION, AND THAT ARE NOT LISTED ON THE CURRENT AGENDA.

PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO UP TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON, AND DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF PERSONS WISHING TO ADDRESS THE PLANNING COMMISSION TIME WILL BE ALLOCATED IN EQUAL SHARES TOTALING NO MORE THAN 15 MINUTES.

SO I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.

IF YOU HAVE NOT BROUGHT YOUR SPEAKER CARD TO THE CLERK YET, PLEASE DO SO.

NOBODY'S RUSHING THE STAGE.

CLERK.

HAVE WE RECEIVED ANY GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT PRIOR TO THE MEETING? NO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS WERE RECEIVED PRIOR TO THE MEETING.

OKAY.

ANY CARDS? NO CARDS.

OKAY.

THEN WE WILL CLOSE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT AND

[PRESENTATIONS]

MOVE INTO PRESENTATIONS.

OUR MEETING.

ITEM ONE HERE IS A PRESENTATION, WHICH IS A RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE A PRESENTATION FROM HOUSING AND PLANNING STAFF ON COMMUNITY SERVICES AND HOUSING PROGRAMS, POLICIES, RECENT LEGISLATIVE UPDATES AND CURRENT STRATEGIES AND ACTIONS TO SUPPORT HOUSING PROGRAMS, PRODUCTION, AND AFFORDABILITY IN PETALUMA.

WITH THAT, I WILL INVITE OUR HOUSING MANAGER, KAREN ZU, ZU SHIMIZU.

THANK YOU.

UM, AND PLANNING MANAGER ANDREW TRIPLE TO PRESENT.

ANDREW, DO YOU WANNA OPEN UP THE PRESENTATION ON HERE OR? YEP.

THERE YOU GO.

UM, I'LL HAVE TO BE PROMOTED.

I, SORRY, THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKED.

OKAY.

SORRY.

THERE YOU GO.

THANKS.

THERE YOU GO.

GREAT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, ANDREW.

UM, GOOD EVENING, UH, CHAIR COMMISSIONERS, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.

MY NAME IS KAREN ZU AND

[00:05:01]

I AM THE HOUSING MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF PETALUMA.

THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, JOIN IN THIS PRESENTATION TONIGHT AND GIVE YOU A LITTLE UPDATE ON SOME OF OUR PROGRAMS. UM, JUST ONE MINUTE.

SORRY FOR THAT.

IT'S LOCKED.

IT'S NOT OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

UM, WE'LL GET STARTED HERE.

SO THIS EVENING WE'RE PLANNING ON GIVING YOU A PRESENTATION, WHICH GONNA GIVE YOU, UH, AN OVERVIEW OF PETALUMA'S COMMUNITY SERVICES AND PROGRAMS. ANDREW'S GOING TO, UM, TAKE, TAKE IT FROM THERE AND GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON STATEWIDE HOUSING LEGISLATION, AND THEN HE'S GONNA BE HIGHLIGHTING AREAS OF INTEREST IN ACTION.

SO I'M GONNA GET STARTED FOCUSING ON THE COMMUNITY SERVICES, UM, THAT WE PROVIDE TO THE COMMUNITY THAT, UM, ALL LEAD UP TO SUPPORTING OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS AS WE HAVE OUR PATHWAY TO HOUSING AND MOVE PEOPLE TOWARDS, UM, HOUSING SOLUTIONS.

I'M ALSO GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR ENDING HOMELESSNESS PROGRAM, UM, AND HAVE A, JUST A, A SUMMARY AS TO HOW WE APPROACH OUR SERVICES.

SO ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO, THE CITY OF PETALUMA ADOPTED A STRATEGIC PLAN TO ADDRESS HOMELESSNESS.

THE VISION OF THAT WAS REALLY TO CREATE A NETWORK OF PROVIDERS THAT WOULD ENSURE THAT HOMELESSNESS BECAME A RARE BRIEF AND ONE-TIME EXPERIENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

WE IDENTIFIED EIGHT STRATEGIC AREAS OF FOCUS.

I'M GONNA BE HIGHLIGHTING SOME THROUGHOUT THE PRESENTATION, BUT IT WAS REALLY SHIFTING THE WAY WE WERE DOING THE WORK AND WITH A HOUSING FOCUSED OUTREACH APPROACH.

SO OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT WE'RE INTERACTING WITH, THEY ALL HAVE A HOUSING FOCUSED PLAN, WHICH LEADS TO THEIR PATHWAY TO HOUSING.

WE WERE TACKLING ROOT CAUSES.

UM, WE IMPROVED OUR COORDINATED ENTRY AND OUR DATA TRACKING, AND WE ALSO MADE SURE THAT AS WE WERE MOVING FORWARD, WE WERE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE COUNTY AND OTHER SUB-REGIONAL PLANS.

I'M GONNA HIGHLIGHT A LITTLE BIT.

WE DIVIDED THAT IT'S A LOT OF WORK.

UM, WE REALLY, UM, OUTLINED IT NICELY AND WE HAD THREE DIFFERENT YEARS OF ITEMS WE WERE FOCUSING ON.

SO MOST URGENT WAS REALLY JUST FOCUSING, LAUNCHING OUR PROGRAM.

YEAR TWO WAS REALLY PROVIDING A TIME FOR NEW INVESTMENTS.

WE KNEW WE WERE GONNA NEED ADDITIONAL RESOURCES TO REALLY CREATE A SYSTEM OF CHANGE.

AND YEAR THREE THAT WE JUST FINISHED UP WAS REALLY EVALUATING OUR SYSTEM, TAKING A LOOK AT WHAT'S WORKING, PIVOTING WHERE NEEDED, AND WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS AND PLANNING FOR OUR NEXT NEXT ACTION CYCLE.

SO, AS YOU KNOW, IT'S A VERY, UM, COMPLEX SYSTEM OF CARE THAT WE HAVE.

AND REALLY, WHEN WE TOOK A LOOK, HOW CAN WE BEST COMMUNICATE AND KEEP TRACK OF THE WAY WE'RE DOING THIS WORK? WE TOOK A LOOK AT WHAT'S THE SYSTEMS, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE SOCIETAL INFLUENCES AND THE ROOT CAUSES THAT ARE CREATING, UM, THE, THE ISSUE OF PEOPLE FALLING INTO HOMELESSNESS OR HAVING CHALLENGES WITH THEIR LONG-TERM HOUSING.

FROM THERE, IT'S TRIAGE.

SOME PEOPLE HAVE THE ABILITY TO SELF RE RE, UH, RESOLVE WITH A LITTLE BIT OF HELP.

UM, SOME, YOU KNOW, WE HA WE ARE WORKING WITH DOING PREVENTION PROGRAMS, SO THEY DON'T ACTUALLY LOSE THEIR HOUSING, BUT THEY MAINTAIN IT AND OTHERS NEED MORE SUPPORT.

WHEN THAT MORE SUPPORT IS NEEDED, WE GO INTO OUR ENGAGEMENT MODE.

ENGAGEMENT IS REALLY THAT STREET FOCUSED OUTREACH.

UM, IT'S ALSO DROP IN SERVICES.

IT'S REALLY ABOUT HAVING SERVICES WHERE WE'RE BUILDING A REP, UH, RAPPORT AND A RELATIONSHIP OF TRUST WITH OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

SO THEN WE CAN THEN SUPPORT THEM IN MOVING TOWARDS PERMANENT HOUSING.

FROM THERE, SOME OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS, THEY, THEY NEED TO TRANSITION, UM, INTO A SHELTER SITUATION.

SO WE HAVE, UM, CONGREGATE AND NON CONGREGATE SHELTER.

AND THE IDEA IS, IS THAT WE GET PEOPLE INTO SHELTERS SO THEY CAN, THAT CARE THEY NEED AND THEN GET THEM LOCATED INTO A PERMANENT HOUSING SOLUTION.

SO I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT A LITTLE BIT.

I'M NOT, I'M NOT GONNA GO EVERYTHING OVER IN FULL DETAIL.

I THINK THE POWERPOINT WAS DISTRIBUTED TO YOU, SO I'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

BUT REALLY, YEAR ONE WAS BUILDING THE FOUNDATION.

WE HAD A VERY SMALL PROGRAM.

WE KNEW THAT WE HAD TO DO SOME IMMEDIATE WORK TO CREATE SOME NON CONGREGATE SHELTER.

WE CREATED THE PEOPLE'S VILLAGE, WHICH PROVIDED THE ABILITY TO WORK WITH PEOPLE, COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT WERE GONNA HAVE DIFFICULTY LIVING IN A CONGREGATE AREA, UH, A DORM FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT REASONS.

SO WE ADDED THE 25 UNIT NON-CON EMERGENCY SHELTER ON THE CAMPUS WHERE THE MARY ISAAC CENTER IS.

AND WE WERE ALSO FORTUNATE TO PARTNER WITH BURBANK HOUSING AND DO A 60 UNIT PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.

[00:10:02]

THE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING REALLY PROVIDES THE, UM, NOT THE HOU JUST THE HOUSING FOR FOLKS, BUT IT'S REALLY THAT LONG TERM CASE MANAGEMENT THAT SUPPORTS THEM, SO THEY MAINTAIN THEIR HOUSING.

WE ALSO WERE SUCCESSFUL IN RECEIVING, UM, ENCAMPMENT RESOLUTION FUNDING.

THERE WAS A LOT OF WORK WE DID.

THERE WAS STEAMER LANDING ENCAMPMENT AND CEDAR GROVE ENCAMPMENT AS AN EXAMPLE.

YOU CAN SEE A COUPLE PICTURES HERE.

SO THERE'S, UM, THIS, THESE ARE KIND OF SOME OF THE CONDITIONS THAT PEOPLE WERE LIVING IN, AND THIS IS WHAT AN ENCAMPMENT WAS LOOKING LIKE.

SO IT WAS REALLY ABOUT NOT JUST A SYSTEM OF CARE, BUT IT WAS ALSO ABOUT ADDRESSING HEALTH AND SAFETY IN THE COMMUNITY.

BUT ALSO MORE IMPORTANTLY, HEALTH, UH, ADDRESSING HEALTH AND SAFETY FOR THE COMMUNITIES.

WERE THERE AT STEAMER LANDING, THERE WAS ABOUT 50 OR 60 PEOPLE LIVING IN THAT ENCAMPMENT.

WHEN WE STARTED THE ABATEMENT PROCESS, UM, WE PUT TOGETHER A FULL GROUP OF SERVICE PROVIDERS, INCLUDING ACROSS THE CITY TEAM, WHICH INCLUDED PUBLIC WORKS, PD, CITY MANAGER'S, OFFICE PLANNING.

UM, THERE WAS A LOT OF COORDINATION THAT WENT INTO THIS ABATEMENT.

IN YEAR TWO, WE FOCUSED ON KIND OF EXPANDING THE CAPACITY AND STRENGTHENING OUR PARTNERSHIPS.

WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROGRAM, WE JUST JUMPED IN.

WE KNEW WE HAD TO BE, UM, CREATIVE.

WE KNEW WE HAD TO TRY DIFFERENT APPROACHES.

UM, WE HAD A LOT OF FLEXIBLE PARTNERS THAT WERE WILLING TO DO THAT.

UM, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WAS REALLY HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE KIND OF MEASURE AND HOW DO WE KEEP TRACK OF FOLKS? THERE WAS A LOT OF CONNECTING, BUT IT WAS LIKE, HOW DO WE KNOW THEY'RE MOVING TOWARDS THEIR LONG-TERM HOUSING GOALS? UM, WE ALSO INTEGRATED IN MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES INTO OUR OUTREACH SERVICES TO SUPPORT, UH, COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID IS, AS A, UM, AS AN AGENCY, IT'S EASY TO, YOU KNOW, RESEARCH BEST PRACTICES AND SEE WHAT OTHER JURISDICTIONS ARE DOING, BUT EVERY COMMUNITY IS DIFFERENT.

SO WE DID A LIVED EXPERIENCE SURVEY.

WE ACTUALLY HAD A CONSULTANT GO OUT AND TALK TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS, FAMILY MEMBERS, SINGLE FAMILY MEMBERS, UM, AND WHAT IS IT THAT THEY RE NEEDED? WHAT WAS THEIR SUPPORT? WHAT WAS, WHAT WAS THE ROOT CAUSE OF THEIR HOMELESSNESS? WE LEARNED A LOT FROM THAT, AND WE BUILT OUR PROGRAMS ON THAT.

WE CONTINUED WITH OUR ENCAMPMENT CLEANUP.

WE LEARNED A LOT FROM STEAMER LANDING, AND WE CONTINUED TO BUILD ON THOSE BEST PRACTICES.

WHEN WE DID THE CEDAR GROVE, UH, CLEANUP TO THE POINT, I THINK THAT SHOWED THE SUCCESS OF THE PROGRAM WHERE, UM, THE, UM, THE ADVOCATES FOR UNSHELTERED COMMUNITY MEMBERS WERE WORKING WITH US, WHEREAS WITH STEAMER LANDING, THERE WAS AN ADVERSARIAL RELATIONSHIP.

IT WAS A REALLY BIG CHANGE.

WE HAD THEM WORKING PART IN PARTNERSHIP WITH US YEAR THREE, WHICH WE JUST WRAPPED UP, WAS REALLY KIND OF MAKING SURE WE HAD A GOOD DATA DASHBOARD.

UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS IT WE WERE MISSING FROM THE LIVED EXPERIENCE AND, AND WHAT WAS MISSING IN OUR SYSTEM OF CARE? ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID IS WE ADDED MORE BOTTOM BUNKS.

UM, AT THE MARY ISAAC CENTER, WE HAVE OUR UNSHELTERED POPULATION IS AGING, I THINK PETALUMA AND ALL THE, UH, ALL THE JURISDICTIONS ACROSS, UH, SONOMA COUNTY.

WE HAVE THE, THE MOST SENIOR POPULATION.

WE ALSO, ANOTHER KEY PROGRAM THAT WE STARTED THAT'S IN ITS SECOND YEAR, THAT'S SHOWN GREAT SUCCESS, IS KEEPING PEOPLE HOUSED.

WE KNEW THAT WE REALLY NEEDED TO FIND A WAY TO, UM, IMPLEMENT A PROGRAM WHERE PEOPLE DIDN'T CONTINUE TO FALL INTO HOMELESSNESS, BUT THAT IF THEY HAD DIFFICULTY, WE COULD PAY A MONTH'S RENT OR HELP GET THE CAR REPAIRED, WHATEVER IT WAS, TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THEM TO MAINTAIN THEIR HOUSING.

I THINK THE AVERAGE, I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT DATE IN FRONT OF ME, BUT I THINK THE AVERAGE AMOUNT OF ASSISTANT TO KEEP SOMEONE HOUSED AND TO PREVENT THEM FROM FALLING INTO HOMELESSNESS IS, UH, ANYWHERE FROM 2,500 TO $3,500 TO KEEP THEM FROM COMPLETELY FALLING OUT OF, UM, HOUSING AND HAVING TO GO INTO OUR SHELTER SYSTEM.

I THINK ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS THAT THE, DURING YEAR THREE IS WE APPLIED TO THE ENCAMPMENT RESOLUTION PROGRAM.

OH, EXCUSE ME.

YES.

YEAH.

JUST WANTED HI, BRIAN HERE.

YES.

UH, JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S OKAY THAT WE'RE ASKING QUESTIONS DURING THIS PRESENTATION.

IS THAT OKAY WITH THIS? SURE.

UM, YES.

REGARDING THE, THE COST THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED, IS THAT A ONE TIME PER PERSON COST OR IS THAT A MORE OF A ANNUAL OR REOCCURRING COST? JUST SO THAT I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE OVERALL IT'S, IT'S USUALLY PER HOUSEHOLD.

OKAY.

INSTEAD OF HER INDIVIDUAL IS KIND OF WHAT THAT COST IS BASED ON.

AND I WAS JUST HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH CHRIS CABRAL COTS, AND I THINK SHE SAID THAT WHEN PEOPLE RECEIVE THAT ASSISTANCE, ABOUT 98% OF THEM ONLY, ONLY NEED IT ONCE.

THANK YOU.

AND THEY DON'T FALL INTO HOMELESSNESS.

SO IT'S, IT'S PROVEN GREAT SUCCESS.

THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

OKAY.

[00:15:01]

UM, I, I ALSO WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT WE WERE, UM, WE AWARDED ANOTHER $8 MILLION BECAUSE OF OUR SUCCESS FROM THE FIRST, UM, ENCAMPMENT PROGRAM WE HAD.

UM, AND THAT HAS GONE A LONG WAY AS FAR AS SECURING OUR SYSTEM OF CARE AND, AND MOVING OUR PROGRAMS FORWARD.

I THINK I'VE HIGHLIGHTED THIS, SO I'M JUST GONNA BRIEFLY TOUCH ON IT.

IT REALLY WAS ABOUT SHIFTING TO HOUSING FOCUS CASE MANAGEMENT.

IT WAS ABOUT STRENGTHENING OUR SERVICE COORDINATION, EXPANDING HOUSING OPTIONS.

PEOPLE NEED A LOT OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS ON THEIR PATHWAY TO PERMANENT HOUSING.

IT WAS THE MENTAL HEALTH INTERVENTION, AND IT WAS THE PARTNERSHIP FOR THE KEEP PEOPLE HOUSED.

THAT'S A LOT OF, THERE'S, THERE'S, I WANNA SHARE JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT KIND OF THE FRAMEWORK THAT WE IMPLEMENTED.

'CAUSE IT WAS A NEW WAY OF TALKING.

I MENTIONED EARLIER THAT WE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE, UM, WITHIN OUR SYSTEM OF CARE, BUT WE IMPLEMENTED WHAT'S CALLED, WE REFER TO AS OUR BY NAMES LIST.

AND WHAT THAT IS, IS TO MEET, IT'S A MEETING THAT WE HAVE EVERY MONDAY WITH A SERVICE PROVIDERS.

IT, IT HAS A LIST OF ALL THOSE THAT ARE EITHER UNHOUSED OR CURRENTLY IN THE SHELTER THE TEAM MEETS, AND THEY DO CASE MANAGEMENT AND CONFER AS TO WHERE ARE THEY, HOW CLOSE ARE THEY TO HOUSING, WHAT ARE SOME OF THOSE BARRIERS.

IT'S REALLY IMPLEMENTING THAT PROCESS HAS, UM, GREATLY IMPROVED THE, UM, REDUCING TIME AND SHELTERS AND THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE WE'RE ABLE TO GET INTO, UM, HOUSING SOLUTIONS.

SO HERE, WHAT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT IS ON OUR BY NAMES LIST, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE TALK ABOUT, UM, FOLKS THAT ARE UNSHELTERED.

WE HAVE OUR CHRONIC HOMELESSNESS WHO ARE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE BEEN UNSHELTERED IN LIVING ON THE STREETS FOR A YEAR OR MORE.

AND THEN WE HAVE OUR NON CHRONIC, OUR NON CHRONIC IS THAT YEAR OR LESS.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CHART, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'VE HAD, UM, AN INCREASE IN THE FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN CHRONICALLY HOMELESS, SO THAT HAVE BEEN LONGER ON THE STREETS.

THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT THEY HAVE MORE BARRIERS AND CHALLENGES, TAKES MORE CARE COORDINATION WITH HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS, UM, LAW ENFORCEMENT, UM, AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, BUT THE GOOD THING IS, IS THAT, UM, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE CHOOSING TO WORK WITH US HAS INCREASED BECAUSE, UM, THERE'S FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE JUST LIKE UNKNOWN.

WE DON'T, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM.

SO YOU'RE SEEING THAT OUR SERVICES AND OUR QUALITY OF CARE, UM, AND INTERACTION WITH FOLKS, WE'RE GETTING MORE PEOPLE TO ENGAGE IN LONGER TERM SOLUTIONS.

YES.

I THINK OUR SUBTITLES ARE BLOCKING THE COLOR CODING HERE.

CAN YOU JUST READ OUT WHAT BLUE, ORANGE AND GRAY REPRESENTED PLEASE? YES.

THE GRAY IS UNKNOWN DUE TO LACK OF ASSESSMENT.

OKAY.

SO PEOPLE WE KNOW THAT ARE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WON'T GAUGE, UM, THE ORANGE IS BY NAME LIST PARTICIPANTS EXPERIENCING NON CHRONIC HOMELESSNESS.

SO THOSE ARE THE FOLKS THAT, YOU KNOW, HAVE BEEN HOUSED FOR, UH, UNSHELTERED FOR LESS THAN A YEAR.

AND THE BLUE IS THE PARTICIPANTS EXPERIENCING CHRONIC HOMELESSNESS.

IS IT SAFE TO ASSUME THAT SOME OF THE 60, SO LOOKING AT YEAR THREE, QUARTER TWO, WHICH HAS 67 ORANGE AND 162 BLUE, AND THEN WE GO UP TO 1 97 BLUE IN THE YEAR THREE, QUARTER THREE, IS IT SAFE TO ASSUME THAT SOME OF THOSE 67 SORT OF LIKE HIT THEIR YEAR ANNIVERSARY AND THEN GOT COLOR CODED OR THEIR NEW INDIVIDUALS? IT'S PROBABLY A COMBINATION.

OKAY.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SO A COMBINATION OF FOLKS WHO ARE SORT OF REGRETTABLY, MATRICULATING INTO THE CHRONIC CATEGORY, AS WELL AS PEOPLE WHO WEREN'T IN THE SYSTEM NOW COMING INTO THE SYSTEM AND REPORTING THAT THEY'VE BEEN UNHOUSED FOR A YEAR OR MORE.

RIGHT.

AND I, I REALLY THINK THAT'S A REFLECTION OF THE, THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WE'RE WORKING WITH NEED A HIGHER LEVEL OF CARE.

THEY NEED MORE INTEGRATION WITH, UM, HEALTH, HEALTH SERVICES.

SO, GOT IT.

THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

YES.

IT COULD ALSO BE THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING FROM THE UNKNOWN DUE TO LACK OF ASSESSMENT INTO WE KNOW THEM NOW, THEY'RE CHRONICALLY MM-HMM.

THEY'VE BEEN CHRONICALLY HOMELESS, SO WE KNOW MORE ABOUT THEM.

YEAH.

YEAH.

WE, WE HAVE SOME REALLY AMAZING TEAMS OUT THERE THAT ARE REALLY CONNECTED WITH THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

SO, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE I MOVE ON? OKAY.

OKAY.

THIS NEXT SLIDE, I, I, I, I FEEL IT'S IMPORTANT TO, TO SHARE WITH THE COMMUNITY.

UM, I MENTIONED IT EARLIER, BUT WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE, UM, THE AGE DEMOGRAPHICS OF WHO IS UNSHELTERED, THE MAJORITY OF THE, THE PEOPLE THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH ARE 60 YEARS AND OLDER AND 45.

YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GETTING OLDER AND OLDER.

AND SO PART OF THAT INFORMATION IS REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE CAN LOOK AT THINGS LIKE, WELL, IN OUR SHELTER, IS THAT GONNA WORK FOR, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE, PEOPLE THAT ARE, UM, OLDER AND MIGHT NEED MORE, MORE, UM, UH, SPECIAL CONDITIONS OR SUPPORTIVE HELP.

UM, YOU KNOW, NOT, WE HAVE SOME TOP BUNKS THAT AREN'T FILLED BECAUSE WE HAVE AN

[00:20:01]

AGING POPULATION AND THE TOP BUNK JUST ISN'T GONNA WORK.

SO THIS DATA IS REAL IMPORTANT AND TELLS US HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN PIVOT AND REALLY MAKE SURE THAT THE SERVICES WE'RE PROVIDING ARE GONNA WORK FOR COMMUNITY.

THIS NEXT SLIDE, THIS IS DATA THAT WAS, UM, PRESENTED.

I DO HAVE SOME, UM, UPDATED DATA AS WELL, BUT WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF WORKING WITH OUR SERVICE PROVIDERS AND KIND OF REVISING OUR DATA DASHBOARD.

SO I'M WORKING, UH, OFF OF THIS DATA, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, UM, WE IMPLEMENTED THE BY NAMES LIST, BUT YOU CAN SEE LIKE IN YEAR ONE, OVER TO YEAR THREE, HOW, BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT HOUSING FOCUS, CASE MANAGEMENT, UM, AND WE HAVE THE LANDLORD RECRUITMENT PROGRAM AND SOME OF THESE OTHER, UH, THE STREET FOCUSED OUTREACH THAT WE'RE SEEING MORE SUCCESS IN GETTING PEOPLE INTO HOUSING.

I THINK ALSO THAT NUMBER SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASED BECAUSE WE SAW A LOT OF, UM, HOME KEY PROJECTS, WHICH OFFER PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, AS WELL AS A LOT OF NEW AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS THAT CAME ONLINE.

SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE, THIS CONVERSATION IS CONNECTED.

'CAUSE ANDREW'S GONNA BE TALKING MORE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF OUR HOUSING PIPELINE AND, AND THE UNITS AVAILABLE.

SO I'VE TALKED ABOUT OUR APPROACH.

I'VE TALKED ABOUT SYSTEMS. I'VE TALKED ABOUT HOW WE TRACK THINGS.

THIS IS REALLY JUST A SUCCESS STORY.

UM, WHEN WE, THIS, UH, GENTLEMAN CAME TO US, HE WAS ACTUALLY LIVING DOWN AT STEAMER LANDING, UM, AND I THINK THROUGH ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF OF WORKING WITH HIM, MOVING HIM OUT OF ENCAMPMENT, MOVING HIM INTO PEOPLE'S VILLAGE, UM, PROVIDING HIM, YOU KNOW, THE CONNECTIONS HE NEEDED FOR HEALTHCARE, PROVIDING HIM SUPPORT WITH, UM, EMPLOYMENT.

UM, HE IS, UM, DOING GREAT.

HE'S OUT ON HIS OWN, AND HE, HE'S A THRIVING MEMBER OF OUR COMMUNITY.

WE LIKE TO CELEBRATE THOSE WINS WHEN WE SEE THEM.

SO, AND WE'RE SEEING MORE AND MORE, THIS WAS JUST QUICKLY, I WANTED TO KIND OF GO BACK IN, IN THINKING ABOUT THE WAY WE APPROACH THIS.

WE, WE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY HAVE A PROGRAM BUDGET, BUT IN THINKING ABOUT THAT PROGRAM BUDGET, WE THINK ABOUT HOW ARE WE ADDRESSING THE SYSTEMS? HOW ARE WE ADDRESSING THOSE SOCIETAL INFLUENCES? SO WE HAVE INTEGRATED MENTAL HEALTH, AND WE HAVE EMPLOYMENT DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS. THE TRIAGE PROGRAMS ARE REALLY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PREVENTION, KEEPING PEOPLE HOUSED.

MAYBE THEY NEED A LITTLE RENTAL ASSISTANCE.

UM, AND THEN IT GOES INTO MORE OF THE ENGAGEMENT, WHICH IS THAT HOUSING FOCUSED, UM, CASE MANAGEMENT.

WE ALSO HAVE A MOBILE SHOWER PROGRAM.

UM, IT'S REALLY WHEN PEOPLE ARE OUT ON THE STREETS, IT'S HOWEVER YOU CAN CONNECT WITH THEM.

IT MIGHT BE OFFERING 'EM A SHOWER, IT MIGHT BE OFFERING 'EM A MEAL, BUT IT'S REALLY ABOUT MAKING THAT CONNECTION, BUILDING THAT RELATIONSHIP A TRUST SO YOU CAN THEN HELP THEM, UM, ON THEIR PATHWAY TO HOUSING.

WE HAVE A REALLY STRONG, UM, SHELTER, SHELTER PROGRAM.

AND THEN, UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF PERMANENT HOUSING PROGRAMS. AND, AND I GUESS WHAT I WANNA HIGHLIGHT IS IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT ARE TRANSITIONING FROM HOMELESSNESS, BUT OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROGRAMS ALSO PROVIDE WORKFORCE, HOUSING, HOME OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES, AS WELL AS AFFORDABLE RENTALS.

UM, WHY MOST OF THE PRESENTATION WAS ON HOMELESSNESS.

WE ALSO HAVE FAIR HOUSING PROGRAMS. WE HELP PEOPLE IF THERE'S, UH, MITIGATING ISSUE, IF THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH THEIR LANDLORD OR IF A LANDLORD'S HAVING AN ISSUE WITH A TENANT, UM, WE, WE WILL JUMP IN.

ACTUALLY, WE PARTNER WITH PPSC AND THEY'LL HELP US ADDRESS THAT TO ENSURE PEOPLE ARE, UM, SUCCESSFUL.

AND WITH THAT, WE STILL HAVE PLENTY OF WORK TO DO.

UM, WE CONTINUE TO, UM, WE RECEIVE SOME FUNDING FOR EXPANDING OUR FAMILY SHELTER OPERATIONS.

UM, THIS WAS A GOAL WE SET LAST YEAR, UM, BUT BASED ON THE COUNTY DOES WHAT'S REQUIRED A POINT IN TIME COUNT, WHICH IS EVERY JANUARY, ONCE A YEAR PEOPLE GO OUT, UM, AND THEY INTERVIEW FOLKS AND KIND OF TAKE ACCOUNT OF WHO'S LIVING UNSHELTERED AND WHERE.

AND WE SAW A HUGE INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF FAMILIES THAT ARE UNSHELTERED.

SO WHY WE KIND OF HAD THIS INDICATION, WE WERE SEEING, UM, OUR PROVIDERS WERE SAYING, WE'RE SEEING MORE UNSHELTERED FAMILIES.

UM, WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT DATA, BUT NOW THAT WE HAVE THAT DATA, WE KNOW WE'RE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

UM, WE'RE ALSO, UM, LAUNCHING THIS YEAR OUR HOUSING PROBLEM SOLUTION FUND.

IT'S A REALLY LARGE FUND THAT, UM, WILL PROVIDE RENTAL ASSISTANCE, DEPOSIT ASSISTANCE, HELP WITH UTILITIES, WHATEVER IT IS TO REMOVE THAT BARRIER THAT PEOPLE HAVE THAT MOVE INTO, UM, TO MOVE INTO HOUSING.

IT'S, IT'S VERY FLEXIBLE, AND OUR PROVIDERS ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

UM, AND AS ALWAYS, WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH OUR, OUR PARTNER AGENCIES.

WE'RE REVISING OUR DASHBOARD AS TO, YOU KNOW, HOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE WORK THAT WE'RE ALL ACCOMPLISHING, AND THEN CONTINUING TO WORK ON IDENTIFYING FUNDING SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY IN THIS ROS ROBUST WAY.

I, I DO WANNA HIGHLIGHT THAT A LOT OF THE FUNDING THAT WE, UM, WE HAVE RECEIVED FOR THIS PROGRAM IS STATE,

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UH, STATE FUNDING, COUNTY FUNDING, AND FEDERAL FUNDING.

SO, UM, THAT'S THE MAJORITY OF THE FUNDING THAT, THAT COVERS THIS ROBUST PROGRAM.

AND WITH THAT, I CAN TAKE QUESTIONS NOW OR WE CAN TRANSITION TO ANDREW.

OKAY.

THE, OH, YES.

UM, REGARDING THOSE FUNDING RESOURCES, HAVE YOU SEEN, OR DO YOU HAVE AN INCLINATION THAT ANY OF THOSE SOURCES ARE GOING TO BE CHANGING IN THE FUTURE? UH, FUNDING SOURCES CAN, IT CAN CONTINUE TO CHANGE.

WE DO KNOW THAT ONE OF THE, UH, MAIN SOURCES WE HAVE FOR THIS PROGRAM IS A STATE ENCAMPMENT RESOLUTION FUND PROGRAM.

AND THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER ROUND OF FUNDING.

AND WE DO PLAN ON APPLYING FOR THAT.

SO WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR PARTNER AGENCIES RIGHT NOW AND THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAVE WE BEEN ABLE TO SUCCEED? WHAT ARE WE MISSING? WHAT ARE THE GAPS OF SERVICES? AND PROBABLY THAT APPLICATION IS GONNA BE FOCUSED ON, UM, WORKING WITH, UM, UNSHELTERED FAMILIES.

'CAUSE WE'VE SEEN THAT RISE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

YES, SIR.

UM, FOLLOWING UP ON BRIAN'S QUESTION, UM, WHAT'S THE DISTRIBUTION OF THOSE FUNDING SOURCES? YOU KNOW, WHAT PERCENTAGES ARE? I I SORT OF GENERALLY, I KNOW THEY PROBABLY FLUCTUATE OVER TIME, SO STATE, COUNTY, FEDERAL MONEY.

RIGHT.

UM, IT, IT, IT CHANGES BASED ON THE FUNDING PROGRAMS THAT ARE AVAILABLE.

BUT OUR CURRENT PROGRAM RIGHT NOW, THE MAJORITY OF THE FUNDING IS COMING FROM THE $8 MILLION HCD STATE OF CALIFORNIA ENCAMPMENT RESOLUTION FUNDING PROGRAM.

BUT WE ALSO HAVE SOME FUNDING COMING IN FROM THE COUNTY AS WELL.

IT'S FEDERAL PASS THROUGH FUNDING.

BUT YEAH, IT, IT'S, IT'S LIKE WEAVING.

WE'RE ALWAYS KNITTING SOURCES TOGETHER AND THINKING ABOUT WHAT MIGHT BE MISSING.

AND ALSO HAVING OPEN CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR SERVICE PROVIDERS, YOU KNOW, WHAT FUNDING DO THEY HAVE? SO WE DON'T EVER LOOK AT IT AS JUST, OKAY, THE CITY'S GONNA FUND THIS, BUT WE LOOK AT IT AS ENTIRE COMMUNITY THAT'S BEING SERVED.

WHERE DO THEY HAVE SUCCESSES? WHERE DO THEY HAVE SHORTFALLS? HOW CAN WE ALL WORK STRONGER TOGETHER? YOU'RE WELCOME.

UM, WHAT'S THE RATIO OF FIRST STEP HOUSING OPTIONS? LIKE, ARE, UH, LANDLORDS SUBSIDIES, KIND OF TOP OPTIONS? LIKE HOW DO UNHOUSED TYPICALLY FIND THEIR FIRST STEP TOWARDS HOUSING, AND IS THERE A KIND OF A MAJORITY, UM, SOLUTION THAT THAT SOLVES MOST OF IT? WE, WE WORK WITH PEOPLE AT ALL DIFFERENT LEVELS.

SOME PEOPLE WE NEED TO WORK WITH FOR A COUPLE YEARS.

BUT AS FAR AS THE HOUSING LOCATION, WE ACTUALLY, THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IS THAT, UM, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A DIFFERENCE APPROACH BETWEEN PROVIDING SOCIAL SERVICES AND WORKING DIRECTLY WITH THE CLIENTS.

WE REFER TO THAT AS HOUSING NAVIGATION, BUT WE PARTNERED WITH HOME FIRST, AND WE HAVE A LANDLORD RECRUITMENT PROGRAM, WHICH IS REALLY FOCUSED.

IT'S MORE, YOU KNOW, A BUSINESS APPROACH.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING FOR AVAILABLE UNITS FOR PEOPLE TO RENT.

UM, WE CAN, UM, GIVE SOME EXTRA SECURITY DEPOSIT.

WE'LL MAKE SURE TO FOLLOW UP ON THEM.

BUT WE ACTIVELY HAVE AN AGENCY THAT'S OUT THERE LOOKING FOR RENTAL UNITS AND, AND DIFFERENT TYPES.

SOME ARE INDIVIDUAL UNITS, SOME ARE SHARED HOUSING.

UM, BUT THAT'S REALLY HELPED US, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT ADDITIONAL SERVICE HAVE KIND OF THAT MORE OF A BUSINESS-MINDED, UH, PROGRAM TALKING WITH PROPERTY OWNERS.

SO, DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? I THINK SO, YEAH.

I GUESS I'M ALSO JUST TRYING TO GAUGE LIKE HOW MUCH AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THE NEW AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS THAT ARE INTRODUCED, LIKE FACTORS INTO THE UNHOUSED POPULATION AND SUPPORTING THEIR, THEIR FIRST STEPS TOWARDS HOUSING, OR IF IT'S KIND OF BEYOND THE THRESHOLD OF, OF AFFORDABILITY.

OKAY.

UH, IN SOME OF OUR, UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS, YOU'LL, YOU MIGHT HEAR PEOPLE MENTION, UM, LIKE WE, WE HAVE A, UM, TWO PROJECTS THAT JUST RECENTLY OPENED.

UM, WE, WE HAVE, UM, MID PEN FINISHED UP WITH 4 1 4 PETALUMA BOULEVARD, AND THEY HAD 12 UNITS THAT ARE CALLED PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING UNITS.

AND WHAT THAT IS, IS THAT COMES WITH A HOUSING VOUCHER, BUT IT ALSO ENSURES THAT THE RESIDENTS HAVE THAT CASE MANAGEMENT TO BE SUCCESSFUL TO STAY HOUSED.

UM, RIVER PLACE BURBANK JUST OPENED UP A DEVELOPMENT OF 50 UNITS, AND I BELIEVE THAT HAS 14 OR 50 PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING UNITS.

UM, AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER PROJECT IN THE PIPELINE, WHICH IS THE, UH, DANCO COMMUNITIES PROJECT BY THE PETALUMA STATION, SMART STATION NORTH.

AND THAT'S 131 UNITS.

AND OUTTA THAT, WE HAVE 33 THAT'LL BE SET ASIDE FOR PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.

SO WHEN YOU HEAR PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, IT'S FOLKS THAT ARE TRANSITIONING FROM HOMELESSNESS INTO HOUSING, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE ALL THE SUPPORT THEY NEED TO HELP THEM, UM, YOU KNOW, ADJUST TO BEING IN A, IN A COMMUNITY THAT HAS RULES, MAKING SURE THEY'RE STILL GETTING THE SUPPORT THEY NEED TO BE SUCCESSFUL.

YEAH, YOU'RE WELCOME.

YES.

I'M CURIOUS ON THAT BNL

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SLIDE, THERE WAS A, A PRETTY LONG LIST OF PARTICIPANTS MM-HMM .

AND I'M CURIOUS SORT OF HOW THE CITY FACTORS INTO THAT, UH, ADMINISTRATION OF THAT PROGRAM AND ALL, ALL OF THESE AND, AND SORT OF WHO, WHO'S LEADING THE CHARGE AND HOW THE CITY IS, IS, UM, A PART OF THAT SUCCESS PROGRAM? SUCCESS FOR THE, UH, THE BNL, WE HAVE ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS PLUS DIFFERENT CITY DEPARTMENTS.

SO, UM, AND SO WE HAVE COTS, WE HAVE HOME FIRST, WE HAVE PETALUMA PEOPLE SERVICES, WE HAVE VETERANS AFFAIRS SERVICES, WE HAVE MEMBERS OF THE SAFE TEAM.

JUST ABOUT EVERY SINGLE SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCY PARTICIPATES IN THAT MID IN THAT MEETING.

AND THEN ON THE CITY SIDE, IT'S, UM, USUALLY ME OR SARAH WOLF, WHO'S A MANAGEMENT ANALYST WITH THE DEPARTMENT ATTENDING.

UM, AND WE ALSO HAVE, UM, A MEMBER OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT'S ASSIGNED TO THAT.

SO IT'S REALLY, AND IS THE CITY'S PARTICIPATION IN THAT MEETING TO GUIDE TOWARDS THESE, UH, YOU KNOW, PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING UNITS THAT ARE COMING DOWN THE LINE? OR SORT OF HOW, HOW DOES THE CITY, UH, WHAT'S THE CITY BRINGING TO THE TABLE IN TERMS OF THE SUCCESS OF THAT MEETING? CONSIDERING THERE'S SO MANY PLAYERS, WE COME, WE, WE ACTUALLY HOMEFIRST MANAGES THAT, UM, MEETING FOR US, AND THEY TRACK ALL THE DATA AND ALL THE UPDATES.

UM, WHAT THE CITY BRINGS TO THE TABLE IS IT'S THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY BARRIERS OR CHALLENGES OR SERVICES THAT MIGHT BE MISSING, UM, AND OR RESOURCES THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO BRING TO THE TABLE.

UM, AND TO MOVE TO HELP RESIDENTS MOVE MORE TOWARDS, UH, PERMANENT HOUSING.

AS AN EXAMPLE, SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, WHEN PD, IF THERE'S A QUESTION, UM, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT BE ANYTHING FROM, YOU KNOW, REMOVING A PARKING TICKET OR, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND SO REALLY THE CITY'S PARTICIPATION IS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THAT THERE'S PROGRESS AND THEY'RE MOVING FORWARD.

BUT REALLY, UM, PARTICIPATING AND REMOVING BARRIERS FOR OUR SERVICE PARTNERS.

THEY'RE THE EXPERTS.

WE'RE THERE TO HELP REMOVE THE BARRIERS.

THAT'S A GREAT SEGUE TO MY NEXT QUESTION.

YES.

WHICH IS, IS THERE SOMETHING IN THE PURVIEW OF THIS BODY THAT WOULD BE VALUABLE TO THE PROGRAMS AND, AND EFFORTS THAT YOU ALL ARE A PART OF? I THINK, I THINK THE VALUE IN IS, IS, UM, HAVING THAT, THE GENERAL AWARENESS OF THE WORK THAT'S HAPPENING.

UM, THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS ANDREW AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS PRESENTATION, IS WE FELT LIKE THE PLANNING COMMISSION WAS GETTING UPDATES ON, YOU KNOW, HERE'S THE BUILDING PERMITS, HERE'S THE HOUSING UNITS THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.

AND IN TALKING WITH THEM, I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT THIS BODY UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S THAT HUMAN ELEMENT TO THE WAY THE CITY REALLY APPROACHES, UH, SERVICES FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

AND MAKING, YOU KNOW, AND SEEING THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE TWO OF THOSE, UM, AND REALLY HAVING THAT, THAT GENERAL AWARENESS.

I'LL SAY ALSO, UM, WHEN WE GET APPROACHED BY BUSINESSES, IT LIKE, THE CITY IS THE FIRST PLACE THAT I GO BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THE RIGHT PERSON ALL THERE.

SO I REFER A LOT OF BUSINESSES TO, TO KAREN AND TEAM TO LIKE CONNECT THEM TO THE RIGHT SERVICE PROVIDERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, AND THEN IN THE TERMS OF LIKE HOW WE FUNDED THIS, ONE OF THE FIRST MAJOR SOURCES WE HAD WAS THE RF FUNDING.

MM-HMM .

UM, THE, LIKE, IT WAS LIKE EIGHT AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS OR SOMETHING WE GOT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, AND I THINK WE PUT LIKE A MILLION OR SO TOWARD THE PEOPLE'S VILLAGE AND THEN CLEANING UP THE ENCAMPMENTS.

AND THAT SORT OF KICKED OFF A LOT OF LIKE THE BOOTSTRAPPING AND YEAR BY YEAR TRYING TO CONTINUE TO MAKE PROGRESS THAT WE'VE SEEN.

MM-HMM .

GREAT.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR THIS SECTION? OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

I'LL TRANSITION IT TO ANDREW.

THANK YOU.

GREAT.

THANKS KAREN.

AND, UH, GOOD EVENING CHAIR COMMISSIONERS AND COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLE.

UM, AS, AS KAREN MENTIONED, WE SORT OF WANTED TO TAKE A STEP BACK THIS EVENING, JUST GIVE YOU SOME HOUSING CONTEXT OUTSIDE OF HOUSING SPECIFIC PROJECTS THAT YOU MIGHT REVIEW OR THE, UH, HOUSING ELEMENT ANNUAL PROGRESS REPORT THAT, UH, I SHARED WITH YOU LAST MONTH.

UM, PART OF THE REASON IS BECAUSE LATER THIS FALL, WE WILL BE BRINGING FORWARD AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT ORDINANCE UPDATE, A DENSITY BONUS UPDATE, AS WELL AS A COUPLE OF OTHER, UH, ZONING CODE AMENDMENTS THAT ARE DIRECTLY RELATED TO HOUSING PRODUCTION AND, AND FACILITATING AND SUPPORTING HOUSING PRODUCTION IN PETALUMA.

AND SO WE THOUGHT THAT THIS, THIS SORT OF SUMMER INTERLUDE WOULD BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE YOU SOME CONTEXT IN ORDER TO RECEIVE THOSE STUDY SESSIONS.

AND, UM, THEN, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS LATER THIS FALL.

SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FROM HOUSING PROGRAMS THAT SEEK TO GET PEOPLE INTO HOUSING TO SORT OF THE VERY HIGH LEVEL STATEWIDE HOUSING REGULATIONS THAT, UH, PLANNING IS AND THE

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CITY, UH, HAVE TO RESPOND TO.

UH, AND, AND SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE'RE UNDER, THIS IS A VERY HIGH LEVEL SURVEY OF STATE HOUSING LEGISLATION BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN OVER A HUNDRED, UM, LEGISLATIVE ACTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN ADOPTED.

AND, UM, OF COURSE, I DON'T WANT TO COVER ALL OF THOSE.

SOME OF THOSE ARE TOOLS THAT WE RARELY USE, UM, HERE IN OUR JURISDICTION.

THEY MIGHT BE MORE INTENDED FOR, YOU KNOW, THE BAY AREA OR LARGER CITIES, LA SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO THESE ARE THE TOOLS THAT WE SEE BEING USED MOST OFTEN AND MOST RELEVANT TO, UM, THE PETALUMA COMMUNITY.

AND TO TAKE A STEP BACK AND, AND, AND THINK JUST FOR A MOMENT ABOUT THE HOUSING CRISIS AND, AND HOW IT CAME TO BE THAT IN 2017, THE STATE STARTED TAKING ACTION THAT, UH, SOME WOULD CLAIM OR RESTRICTING LOCAL JURISDICTIONS, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, REMOVING OR, OR LIMITING THEIR DISCRETION.

BUT TO THINK ABOUT WHY THE STATE WAS DOING THAT.

AND, UH, THE REASON, SOME OF THE REASONS WERE BECAUSE, UM, AT, AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, THERE WAS INSUFFICIENT LAND ZONED AND AVAILABLE FOR HOUSING.

SOME JURISDICTIONS WERE PREDOMINANTLY, UM, YOU KNOW, LOW DENSITY, SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOUSING.

THEY WEREN'T ALLOWING FOR A MIX OF HOUSING TYPES OR INCREASED DENSITY IN THEIR JURISDICTIONS.

UM, SO BEING EXCLUSIVE IN THAT WAY.

BUT THEN, UM, THE HIGH COST OF, OF HOUSING PRODUCTION THAT WERE, OR, OR HOUSING CONSTRUCTION COSTS THAT WERE CONSTRAINING HOUSING PRODUCTION.

AND THE STATE REALLY SAW, UM, THAT AS BEING A FUNCTION OF THE UNCERTAINTY OF THE REVIEW PROCESS.

IF YOU THINK BACK, IT WASN'T SO VERY LONG AGO THAT EVERY HOUSING PROJECT WAS GOING THROUGH DISCRETIONARY REVIEW PROCESSES AND, UM, THERE'S UNCERTAINTY FOR DEVELOPERS BOTH TIME AND COST UNCERTAINTIES.

AND SO THE STATE WAS, UH, SEEKING TO ADDRESS, UM, THOSE ISSUES.

AND THEN FINALLY, OPPOSITION TO NEIGHBORHOOD CHANGE, UM, THE, THE NIMBYS, UM, AND SO FORTH WHO ARE REALLY INFLUENCING LOCAL HOUSING POLICY AND LOCAL REGULATORY ADOPTION IN ORDER TO PREVENT HOUSING PRODUCTION IN A LOT OF JURISDICTIONS THROUGHOUT THE STATE.

I DON'T, BY THOSE COMMENTS, I DON'T MEAN TO SAY THAT PETALUMA IS ONE OF THOSE JURISDICTIONS, OR WAS, THERE ARE A LOT OF JURISDICTIONS, PETALUMA BEING ONE THAT ARE, UH, PRO-HOUSING DESIGNATED, THAT ARE SUPPORTIVE OF NEW HOUSING PROJECTS AND THAT HAVE BEEN DOING A VERY MEANINGFUL JOB IN PRODUCING HOUSING.

UM, BUT NEEDLESS TO SAY, WHEN WE LOOK AT IT FROM THE STATEWIDE LEVEL, UM, HOUSING PRODUCTION WAS DEFINITELY, UH, UNDER PAR FOR WHAT WE NEEDED TO HOUSE, HOUSE THE POPULATION STATEWIDE.

SO THEN THE IMPACTS OF THAT REDUCED, UH, PRODUCTION ACTIVITY, FEWER PEOPLE BECOME HOMEOWNERS.

SO WE HAVE REDUCED INTER INTERGENERATIONAL WEALTH ACCUMULATION AND TRANSFER OF WEALTH AND SO FORTH.

UM, BUSINESSES CANNOT EXPAND.

THIS I THINK IS REALLY INTERESTING BECAUSE I MADE A COMMENT IN THE ANNUAL PROGRESS REPORT THAT THE HOUSING NUMBERS ARE GENERATED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE.

NOW, ONE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE, OF COURSE, YOUR POPULATION FORECASTING WILL AFFECT YOUR HOUSING NEEDS, BUT ALSO BECAUSE I THINK IT HIGHLIGHTS THE CONNECTION BETWEEN ECONOMIC ACTIVITY AND HOUSING, UH, THROUGHOUT THE STATE AND ESPECIALLY IN OUR LOCAL JURISDICTIONS.

AND SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO THINK ABOUT THE BUSINESSES AND THEIR NEEDS OR DESIRES TO GROW AND, AND TO EVOLVE, UM, IN COMMUNITIES, BUT, BUT ALSO HOW HOUSING IS RESTRICTING THAT.

AND THEN OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, JUST COMING OFF OF KAREN'S PRESENTATION, WE DO SEE AN INCREASE IN HOMELESSNESS AND, UM, AND RESOLVING THOSE HOMELESSNESS NEEDS ARE COSTLY FOR THE JURISDICTIONS THAT ENGAGE IN THAT ACTIVITY.

SO THEN, AS I MENTIONED, SINCE 2017, WE'VE SEEN OVER A HUNDRED LEGISLATIVE ACTIONS.

UM, ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN, WE LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE CORE FOUNDATIONAL REGULATORY, UM, MOVES THAT THE STATE DID, SUCH AS THE PERMIT STREAMLINING ACT IN 1977, WHICH PLACED SOME LIMITATIONS ON, UM, OR, OR REQUIREMENTS, I SHOULD SAY, PERHAPS NOT LIMITATIONS, BUT REQUIREMENTS ON LOCAL JURISDICTIONS CONDUCTING REVIEW OF, UH, DISCRETIONARY PROJECTS.

THEN DON DENSITY BONUS LAW IN 1979.

WE'RE FAMILIAR WITH WHAT THAT DOES.

UH, THIS EVENING WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT, UM, AN ADDITIONAL DENSITY BONUS CONCEPT THAT WAS ADOPTED BY THE STATE WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

AND THEN FINALLY, THE, THE HOUSING ACCOUNTABILITY ACT OF 1982, WHICH IS WHERE THE LEGISLATOR LEGISLATURE FIRST MADE ITS MOVE IN 2017, IF, UH, THE HOUSING ACCOUNTABILITY ACT WAS A SLEEPING TIGER.

UH, IN 2017 THROUGH SB 35, THE STATE LEGISLATURE WOKE IT UP AND GAVE IT SOME TEETH, UM, SO TO SPEAK.

SO THEN ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, SOME OF THOSE MAJOR MOVEMENTS INCLUDE THE, UH, WHAT'S NOW REFERRED TO AS THE STREAMLINED MINISTERIAL APPROVAL PROCESS

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THAT STARTED OUT AS SB 35.

IT WAS AMENDED BY SB, UM, 4 23, AND NOW HCD AND INCREASINGLY LOCAL JURISDICTIONS REFER TO IT AS SMAP, BUT WE CAN ALWAYS THINK ABOUT THAT AS SB 35 AND 4 23.

THEN THE HOUSING CRISIS ACT OF 2019 AS AMENDED WITH, UH, SB EIGHT AND 2021, THAT WAS A SB THREE 30.

AND IF WE THINK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS IN SB THREE 30 S, IF, IF SB 35 WAS APPLYING TO AFFORDABLE PROJECTS, AND IT WAS, UM, REDUCING THAT IN STREAMLINING REVIEW TO A MINISTERIAL PROCESS, AND OF COURSE THERE WAS A LOT OF OUTRAGE THROUGHOUT THE STATE BY WHAT THE LEGISLATURE HAD DONE.

SO THEN THEY CAME BACK AND IT, AGAIN, IN AN EFFORT TO CONTINUE TO MOVE THE NEEDLE ON HOUSING PRODUCTION IN 2019, THEY CAME FORWARD WITH SB THREE 30.

WHAT SB THREE 30 DID IS IT ALLOWED FOR THE STREAMLINED DISCRETIONARY PROCESS TO PROCEED FOR MARKET RATE PROJECTS, BUT IT DID RESTRICT US IN CERTAIN OTHER WAYS, AGAIN, TO GIVE THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY THAT, THAT TIME AND COST CERTAINTY.

AND WE'LL TAKE A DEEPER DIVE ON SB THREE 30.

UH, YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH OUR MOST RECENT SB THREE 30 PROJECT, WHICH WAS THE CREEKWOOD HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.

AND TYPICALLY WE WOULD SEE THAT, UM, TODAY THAT ANY MARKET RATE PROJECT, CERTAINLY MARKET RATE HOUSING PROJECT, IS GOING TO COME FORWARD AS AN SB THREE 30 PROJECT.

IT JUST MAKES SENSE.

ADDITIONALLY WITH, UH, WITH THE INCLUSIONARY HOUSING REQUIREMENT THAT THE CITY HAS, UH, IT CERTAINLY MEETS THAT MINIMUM AFFORDABILITY COMPONENT.

THEN WE HAVE SB NINE, THE HOUSING OPPORTUNITY AND MORE EFFICIENCY ACT, OR THE HOME ACT.

AND, UM, SB NINE SET US UP FOR, UH, WHAT'S BEEN REFERRED TO AS, AS URBAN LOT SPLIT OR TWO UNIT DEVELOP DEVELOPMENT MINISTERIAL PROCESSES THAT CAN, UM, DOUBLE THE DENSITY ON AN OTHERWISE LOW DENSITY, UM, PARCEL DEVELOPED WITH A SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED UNIT OR, OR EVEN UNDEVELOPED.

AND THEN SB 10, WHICH WAS THE 10 UNIT UPZONING.

FROM THERE, WE WENT TO THE SB NINE, SB 10, 6, 84 AND 1123, AND WE'LL CHECK IN ON THOSE AND SEE WHERE WE EVENTUALLY LANDED.

I'M, I'M PRETTY FOND OF SAYING THAT AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THE STATE HAS EFFECTIVELY ADDRESSED SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED ZONING THROUGHOUT EVERY JURISDICTION.

WITH ALL OF THE TOOLS TOGETHER, YOU CAN REALLY DO, UM, DEVELOPMENT OF MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE UNITS ON A SINGLE PARCEL.

WHAT THEY DIDN'T DO THOUGH WAS, WAS TO ELIMINATE IT OR OUTLAW IT, RIGHT? SO IT'S KIND OF INTERESTING WHEN WE LOOK ABOUT, LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENED SINCE 2017 AND WHERE WE'VE LANDED STATEWIDE, WE'VE LANDED IN THE SAME PLACE AS MINNEAPOLIS, AS PORTLAND, AS SOME OTHER, UM, YOU KNOW, JURISDICTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN BATTLING THE SAME HOUSING ISSUES.

SO IT'S KIND OF NEAT TO REFLECT, I THINK BACK ON THE HISTORY OF HOUSING LEGISLATION, UM, SINCE, UH, JUST SINCE 2017.

IT SEEMS LIKE MAYBE I LIKED THAT SLIDE.

THERE WE GO.

OKAY.

SO, SO, UH, TO SORT OF CONTINUE OUR HISTORY LESS IN THE HOUSING ACCOUNTABILITY ACT, THAT'S THE FRAMEWORK FOR EVERYTHING.

WE ARE ALWAYS GOING BACK TO THE HOUSING ACCOUNTABILITY ACT.

WE LOOK THROUGH THE RECENT, RECENT LEGISLATION TO LOOK AT HOW IT'S AMENDED THE HOUSING ACCOUNTABILITY ACT, AND THAT'S BECOMING EVEN MORE IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO APPLY IT.

BUT IT WAS ORIGINALLY INTENDED TO PREVENT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS FROM ARBITRARILY DENYING OR REDUCING A PROJECT'S DENSITY.

UM, AND ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMPLIES WITH EXISTING PLANNING AND ZONING STANDARDS.

UM, BUT THEN THROUGH AMENDMENT, UM, IT BECAME THAT PROJECTS THAT COMPLY WITH OBJECTIVE DEVELOPMENT AND DESIGN STANDARDS, QUALIFYING PROJECTS MUST BE APPROVED UNLESS A LOCAL JURISDICTION MAKES SPECIFIC FINDINGS.

SO THAT WAS AN EVOLUTION OF THE, UM, HOUSING ACCOUNTABILITY ACT.

THEN AB 1893 CLARIFIED AND STRENGTHENED IT FOR ALL RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS, INCLUDING THOSE UNDER BUILDER'S REMEDY.

UM, THE BUILDER'S REMEDY, WHICH YOU MAY HAVE HEARD ABOUT OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WAS, UH, HAS ALWAYS BEEN IN THE HOUSING ACCOUNTABILITY ACT, BUT IT HAD BEEN, UM, REALLY NEVER APPLIED UNTIL IT SURFACED SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, AB 1893 INTRODUCED A NEW DEFINITION, UH, FOR AN OBJECTIVE QUANTIFIABLE WRITTEN DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, CONDITIONS AND POLICIES, WHICH LIMIT THE REVIEW AGENCY'S ABILITY TO IMPOSE CONDITIONS ON A PROJECT.

AND LAST FALL, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WERE ON THE COMMISSION, UH, WE DID WORK THROUGH THAT WITH THE CREEKWOOD

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HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ADVISING THE COMMISSION THAT CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL COULD BE RECOMMENDATIONS OR CONSIDERATIONS, BUT WE WERE REALLY LIMITED WITH REGARD TO ACTUAL CONDITIONING OF THE PROJECT, UNLESS THE, UNLESS THE DEVELOPER APPLICANT WOULD ACCEPT A CONDITION.

THEN, UH, IN, IN, UH, 2017, WHAT'S NOW FAMILIAR IS SB 35.

THAT WAS THE FIRST STEP IN A STREAMLINED MINISTERIAL APPROVAL PROCESS.

THE GOAL WAS TO REDUCE DELAYS AND ENCOURAGE MORE HOUSING PRODUCTION.

UH, IT REQUIRED STREAMLINING OF QUALIFYING RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS IN JURISDICTIONS, NOT MEETING STATE MANDATED, UM, HOUSING GOALS IS SET MANDATORY REVIEW TIMELINES OF 60 OR 90 DAYS DEPENDING ON THE PROJECT.

AND THAT'S WHERE WE WERE REALLY INTRODUCED TO A REVIEW BASED UPON OBJECTIVE STANDARDS ONLY.

A LOT OF JURISDICTIONS AT THAT POINT IN TIME, DID NOT HAVE, THEY HAD OBJECTIVE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, SETBACKS, BUILDING HEIGHT, LOT COVERAGE AND SO FORTH, BUT I THINK VERY FEW JURISDICTIONS HAD OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS.

AND SO A LOT OF JURISDICTIONS MOVED VERY QUICKLY TO DEVELOP AND ADOPT THOSE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS.

PETALUMA ALSO DID THE SAME.

WHAT'S REALLY INTERESTING HERE THOUGH, IS WE ALSO SEE THIS WAS THE FIRST REAL EFFORT OF THE LEGISLATURE TO TAKE ON CQA, RIGHT? BECAUSE CQA IS REQUIRED WHEN YOU HAVE A DISCRETIONARY ACTION FOR A DEVELOPMENT PROJECT.

SO BY ELIMINATING THE DISCRETIONARY ACTION THROUGH CER THROUGH SB 35 FOR QUALIFYING RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS, MOVING IT INSTEAD TO A MINISTERIAL PROCESS, THE STATE SAID, WELL, WE'RE STREAMLINING, WELL, AT THE SAME TIME, THEY ELIMINATED THE SE A TRIGGER.

AND SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST ACTIONS.

MOST RECENTLY WE'VE HEARD OF AB ONE 30 AND SB 1 31, BUT REALLY EVEN BACK IN 2017, THE STATE WAS ALREADY LOOKING AT WAYS THAT IT COULD ADDRESS CE A AND PROVIDE SOME PROTECTION TO HOUSING DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.

SO QUALIFYING RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS, A MULTIFAMILY, UH, PROJECT, 75% OF THE SITE PERIMETER ADJOINS PARCELS DEVELOPED WITH URBAN USES, UH, THROUGH RECENT LEGISLATION, THE STATE HAS COME OUT AND CLARIFIED WHAT THEY MEAN BY THAT AND SORT OF LOOSENED THAT UP EVEN MORE.

SO WE NOW HAVE GREATER CLARITY ON HOW THAT'S DEFINED AND WHAT THE STATE IS LOOKING FOR.

UM, IN TERMS OF GENERAL PLAN AND ZONING, THAT COULD BE EITHER RESIDENTIAL OR RESIDENTIAL MIXED USE WITH ABOUT TWO THIRDS OF THE PROJECT, UM, BEING HOUSING WHEN IT'S A RESIDENTIAL MIXED USE PROJECT, THEN AFFORDABILITY LEVELS, UM, 10% OR 50% OUT OR BELOW 80% OF THE AVERAGE MEDIAN INCOME.

THAT DOES GET TO WHERE YOU'RE TRACKING WITH RENA IN TERMS OF, OF WHAT LEVEL OF AFFORDABILITY THE PROJECT HAS TO OFFER IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE AN SB 35.

AND THEN THE, THE REQUIREMENT FOR PREVAILING WAGES, UH, SKILLED IN TRAINED WORKFORCE, SB 35, I THINK HAS BEEN A, A POPULAR, UM, TOOL TO BE USED BY DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.

WE DO SEE IT A LOT THROUGHOUT THE BAY AREA.

UM, PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT IS VERY DEPENDENT.

THE, THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS ARE VERY DEPENDENT ON STATE FUNDING, LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDITS, AND OTHER FUNDING SOURCES.

SO AS THOSE STATE LEVEL FUNDS SORT OF EBB AND FLOW, I THINK WE SEE A CORRESPONDING, UH, MOVEMENT IN THE, THE POPULARITY OF SB 35 PROJECTS.

YEAH.

CAN YOU JUST CLARIFY THE AFFORDABILITY? 10% OR 50% AT OR BELOW 80%? HOW ABOUT SURE.

SO THAT WOULD BE WORKS IN PRACTICE, RIGHT? SO AT AT 10, AT AT 10%, IT'S A PRETTY LOW THRESHOLD.

SO IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE BEHIND ON YOUR ARENA NUMBERS AND YOU REALLY NEED TO SORT OF LOOSEN UP YOUR ABILITY TO TAKE SB 35 PROJECTS, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ACCEPT THEM AT 10% OF THE HOUSING BEING BELOW AT OR BELOW 80% A MI.

HOWEVER, IF YOU ARE ACHIEVING, UM, SUCCESS WITH YOUR ARENA NUMBERS, THEN THAT MIGHT BUMP UP TO 50%.

I SEE.

SO IT'S BASED ON HOW YOU'RE DOING OTHERWISE, RIGHT? CORRECT.

OKAY.

CORRECT.

ARE WE IN 10% TERRITORY, OR 50? I'LL HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT.

OKAY.

RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM .

I'VE GOT, I'VE GOT THAT IN THE LAST, UH, PRESENTATION, BUT I CAN DEFINITELY LOOK THAT UP.

SO THEN SB 35 IN 2023 EVOLVED THROUGH SB 4 23 TO THE STREAMLINED MINISTERIAL APPROVAL PROCESS OR SMAP.

WHAT THAT DID WAS IT EXTENDED SB 35 UNTIL 2036.

PREVIOUSLY IT WAS SCHEDULED TO EXPIRE, I BELIEVE, IN 2025.

THEN IT ALSO, UH, APPLIED

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SMAP TO, UH, TO COASTAL ZONES.

PREVIOUSLY, THOSE, UH, COASTAL ZONES WERE NOT SUBJECT TO IT STRENGTHENED LABOR, UH, STANDARDS, UM, REQUIRED ADDITIONAL AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR CERTAIN PROJECTS, AND THEN THAT'S WHERE IT CONNECTED, UH, SAP AND THE REQUIREMENTS TO, UH, LOCAL JURISDICTION'S ABILITY TO ACHIEVE ITS ARENA GOALS.

HERE'S JUST A SLIDE OF HOW, UM, SB 35 HAS BEEN, OR SORRY, THIS WOULD BE, UM, HOW PROJECTS ARE JURISDICTIONS ARE GOING ABOUT ACHIEVING THEIR ARENA GOALS.

ACHIEVING SUCCESS, UM, IS ONE OF THE TERMS USED.

SO YOU HAVE A JURISDICTION SUBJECT TO STREAMLINING WITH, UM, 10% AFFORDABILITY.

IT'S ABOUT 254 JURISDICTIONS.

JURISDICTIONS SUBJECT TO STREAMLINING WITH, UH, 50%, UM, AFFORDABILITY ARE 238.

AND THEN JURISDICTIONS THAT ARE NOT CURRENTLY SUBJECT TO 4 23 SMAP, THOSE ARE THE JURISDICTIONS THAT ARE ACHIEVING SUCCESS.

UH, WITH REGARD TO THE ARENA NUMBERS, WE HAVE 47 AND THAT'S, UH, STATEWIDE.

SO YOU CAN SEE THE MAJORITY OF OF JURISDICTIONS ARE STILL, UH, WORKING HARD TO ATTAIN THEIR ARENA GOALS, OR AT LEAST BE AT THOSE, AT THOSE GOAL POINTS THROUGHOUT THE EIGHT YEAR PROCESS.

SO THEN IN 2019, THE HOUSING CRISIS ACT BROUGHT A SB THREE 30, WHICH, UH, WHICH WE'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH, PROHIBITS LOCAL AGENCIES FROM REDUCING OR DOWNSIZING THE CAPACITY OF A PRO, UH, PROPERTY DENSITY WISE PROHIBITS LOCAL JURISDICTIONS FROM IMPOSING NEW NON-OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS ESTABLISHED AFTER JANUARY 1ST, 2020.

IT ALSO, UM, SHORTENS PERMIT REVIEW TIMEFRAMES LIMIT IN PART BY LIMITING THE NUMBER OF PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT CAN BE ALLOWED AND ENSURES THAT THE DEMOLITION OF HOW DOES NOT RESULT IN A NET LOSS.

UM, THE, THE, UH, BULLET POINT NUMBER TWO PROHIBITS LOCAL JURISDICTIONS FROM IMPOSING NEW NON-OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS.

ALSO CAN BE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT IT ALLOWS, UH, ELIGIBLE PROJECTS TO VEST UNDER THE STANDARDS AND REGULATIONS THAT ARE IN EFFECT AT THE TIME THAT ELIGIBILITY IS DETERMINED.

SO THAT WAS AN EFFORT TO THWART LOCAL JURISDICTIONS THAT MAY HAVE A PROJECT COME UP THAT THEY DON'T LIKE.

AND SO THEY WOULD TAKE ACTION TO AMEND THEIR ZONING CODE OR CHANGE THEIR DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS IN ORDER TO, UH, MAKE THAT PROJECT NON-COMPLIANT.

SO THAT VESTING COMPONENT IS A BIG PART OF SB 35 OR SB THREE 30 RATHER.

UM, UH, HOUSING DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS ARE DEFINED AS RESIDENTIAL USE ONLY, OR A MIXED USE WITH GREATER THAN TWO THIRDS RESIDENTIAL.

THEY CAN INCLUDE TRANSIT OR SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.

UM, AFFORDABILITY IS COMPLIANCE WITH THE LOCAL INCLUSIONARY HOUSING POLICY, AND THEN PREVAILING WAGE IS NOT REQUIRED.

SO YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT THIS WOULD MAKE THIS VERY POPULAR WITH MARKET RATE PROJECTS ONLY HAVE TO MEET A MINIMUM AFFORDABILITY LEVEL AND, AND WOULD NOT HAVE TO, UH, UM, CONSTRUCT USING PREVAILING WAGE.

IT, IT, UH, PROVIDES FOR A A FIVE STEP REVIEW PROCESS, THE PRELIMINARY ELIGIBILITY APPLICATION.

THEN YOU SUBMIT A COMPLETE APPLICA OR A FULL APPLICATION, WHICH IS DEEMED COMPLETE IF IT PROVIDES ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT'S REQUIRED ON THE CHECKLIST.

SO WE CAN'T GO BACK AND ASK FOR MORE INFORMATION.

UH, WE CONDUCT COMPLETENESS REVIEW IN THE 30 DAY TIME LIMIT.

THE APPLICANT HAS 90 DAYS TO RESPOND.

THEN WE CONDUCT A CONSISTENCY REVIEW AND THEN GO TO IN THROUGH YOUR PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS WHERE WE'RE LIMITED TO FIVE PUBLIC HEARINGS IN ALL.

UH, AND THEN THERE'S CERTAIN TIME RESTRICTIONS ON THAT AS WELL.

IT'S, IT'S ACHIEVABLE.

IT'S, THERE ARE SOME, SOME CRUNCH POINTS, BUT IT IS ACHIEVABLE, AND I KNOW THAT CERTAIN JURISDICTIONS HAVE AMENDED THEIR REVIEW PROCESSES, DISCRETIONARY REVIEW PROCESSES IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO FIT, UH, PROJECTS IN WITHIN THAT FIVE PUBLIC MEETING TIME LIMIT.

THE PUBLIC MEETING IS REALLY PRETTY BROADLY CONSTRUED.

SO VIRTUALLY ANY MEETING WHERE THE PUBLIC IS INVITED IS GOING TO COUNT, EVEN IF IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING THAT'S REQUIRED, UM, BY THE LOCAL JURISDICTION.

THEN STATE DENSITY BONUS LAW HAS BEEN TUNED UP FAIRLY CONSISTENTLY SINCE, UH, 2017, UM, IN ORDER TO PROVIDE FOR STREAMLINING, UM, CLARIFICATION OF ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA, UH, AFFORDABILITY REQUIREMENTS AND SO FORTH, UM, INCENTIVES AND CONCESSIONS HAVE BEEN INCREASED AND, UM, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY A PROJECT THAT DOES HAVE SOME SORT OF, UM, ELIGIBILITY FOR STATE DENSITY BONUS, EVEN AT THE VERY LOW LEVELS IS GOING TO RELEASE, RECEIVE AT LEAST TWO CONCESSIONS

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OR WAIVERS OR RATHER TWO CONCESSIONS OR INCENTIVES AND UN UNLIMITED WAIVERS OF DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS TO ENSURE THAT THE PROJECT CAN BE DEVELOPED AND THOSE CAN BE LAYERED ON IN DIFFERENT WAYS.

UM, SO WE REALLY WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THE PROJECT TEAM TO UNDERSTAND IF THEY ARE ELIGIBLE FOR DENSITY BONUS, HOW THEY ARE USING THOSE CONCESSIONS AND HOW THEY'RE USING THOSE WAIVERS, UM, TO MAKE THEIR PROJECT WORK.

I BELIEVE IF, IF YOU RECALL, THOSE OF YOU WHO, UM, WOULD HAVE REVIEWED, UH, TWO RAVINA, THE RAVINA APARTMENTS PROJECT LAST FALL, UH, THAT WAS BOTH AN SB THREE 30 AND A DENSITY BONUS PROJECT THAT USED CONCESSIONS AND WAIVERS.

AND THEN AB 1763 ADOPTED IN 2019 ENCOURAGES 100% AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS.

THIS IS, UH, WHERE THE STATE STARTED RECOGNIZING THE NEED FOR MODERATE INCOME HOUSING.

UH, MODERATE INCOME CAN BE THOUGHT OF AS THOSE HOUSEHOLDS WHERE YOU DO HAVE SKILLED PROFESSIONALS, WHETHER THEY'RE TEACHERS, HEALTHCARE, UH, WORKERS, AND SO FORTH, BUT STILL GIVEN THE COST OF HOUSING ARE IN NEED OF SOME SORT OF INCOME RESTRICTED HOUSING SUPPORT.

AND SO IT BEGAN ALLOWING UP TO 20% OF UNITS TO BE AVAILABLE FOR MODERATE INCOME HOUSEHOLDS.

AND THEN, UM, BUT IT DID THEN LIMIT THE REMAINDER OF THE UNITS TO BE TO REQUIRED TO BE AVAILABLE FOR LOWER INCOME.

AND SO THIS JUST GAVE US SOME ADDITIONAL NUANCES.

UM, ALSO PROJECTS CAN RECEIVE, THEY ELEVATED OR INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF DENSITY BONUS UP TO 80% IF YOU WERE A HUNDRED PERCENT AFFORDABLE.

AND THEN, UM, IF YOU WERE WITHIN ONE HALF MILE OF A MAJOR TRANSIT STOP, LOCAL JURISDICTIONS COULD NOT APPLY A DENSITY LIMIT TO THE PROJECT.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE REALLY STARTED SEEING THE STATE BEGIN TO ACTIVATE THAT SORT OF THINKING ABOUT DENSITY AROUND TRANSIT, NOT JUST TO, UH, NOT JUST TO SUPPORT HOUSEHOLDS, BUT ALSO TO SUPPORT TRANSIT.

RIGHT? AND SO THE GR THE INCREASED RIDERSHIP IS MORE SUPPORTIVE OF THE TRANSIT WHERE THE STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ARE MAKING THOSE INVESTMENTS.

AND, AND THEN THE HOUSEHOLDS ARE THEN SUPPORTED BY THE TRANSIT INVESTMENTS.

SO THIS IS A, A GRAPHIC EXAMPLE OF HOW DENSITY BONUS WORKS.

IF YOU HAVE A HUNDRED BASE UNITS, UM, 80 OF WHICH ARE MARKET RATE UNITS AND 20 OF WHICH ARE AFFORDABLE UNITS, THEN YOU WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR 35 BONUS UNITS.

SO YOU GET THOSE ON TOP OF YOUR, UM, MARKET RATE UNITS AND YOUR AFFORDABLE UNITS.

THIS IS A VERY, UM, SIMPLIFIED VERSION OF IT.

AND THEN THAT GIVES YOU A TOTAL OF 135 UNITS OVER WHAT WOULD OTHERWISE BE ALLOWED BY YOUR, UM, THIS WOULD ASSUME THAT YOUR MAXIMUM DENSITY WAS A HUNDRED UNITS, UM, AT THE BASE.

AND THEN AB 1287 WAS INTRODUCED IN 2023, WHICH IS ADDITIONAL STACKING DENSITY BONUS.

WE'LL GO INTO THIS IN DETAIL.

THIS IS, I THINK, A REALLY INTERESTING PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT WE CAN VISIT IN DETAIL DURING THE DENSITY BONUS ORDINANCE, UH, STUDY SESSION AND REVIEW.

BUT THIS ALLOWS PROJECTS TO STACK UP TO 50% ADDITIONAL DENSITY BONUS ON TOP OF A 50% MAXIMUM BONUS IF THEY PROVIDE UNITS FOR VERY LOW INCOME OR MODERATE INCOME HOUSEHOLDS.

AND IT'S, IT'S REALLY A PRETTY LOW THRESHOLD.

AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, QUALIFYING PROJECTS CAN RECEIVE UP TO A HUNDRED PERCENT DENSITY BONUS IN TOTAL, EXCUSE ME.

WE'VE NOT, UH, WE'VE HAD SOME INQUIRIES ABOUT USING THIS LEGISLATION, BUT WE'VE NOT HAD ANY PROJECTS COME FORWARD WHERE THEY'RE USING THIS LEGISLATION.

I'M NOT SURE, UM, HOW, HOW WIDELY IT'S BEING USED STATEWIDE, BUT IT IS DEFINITELY A TOOL THAT'S OUT THERE THAT CAN REALLY, UM, CAN REALLY, UH, ADD SOME DENSITY TO PROJECTS.

SURE.

MM-HMM .

REGARDING THE BONUS, HOW DOES THAT APPLY ON TOP OF OTHER LAWS THAT MIGHT ALSO EXIST THAT COULD FORESEEABLY RESTRICT THE AMOUNT OF SPACE AVAILABLE TO INCLUDE THOSE UNITS IN A PARTICULAR PROJECT PROPOSAL LIKE HEALTH AND SAFETY LAWS? UM, HEALTH AND SAFETY, UM, SQUARE FOOTAGE MANDATES, UM, THE FAR MM-HMM .

STUFF LIKE THAT.

WELL, PRESUMABLY YOU WOULD USE, YOU WOULD USE ONE OF YOUR, UM, CONCESSIONS TO ELIMINATE ANY OF THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT WOULD BE RESTRICTING IT.

SO, UM, FOR INSTANCE, FAR, YOU WOULD JUST USE A CONCESSION TO ALLOW YOU TO EXCEED FAR, THE, THE HEALTH AND SAFETY FIRE AND BUILDING CODES.

WHEN WE

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GET INTO HEALTH AND SAFETY FINDINGS, THEN IT DOES PROVIDE FOR THE JURISDICTION TO MAKE THOSE FINDINGS OF, UM, YOU KNOW, A HEALTH AND SAFETY IMPACT AND DENY A PROJECT THEN.

SO, UH, IT DOES HAVE THAT TOOL, BUT THE, UH, THOSE, THOSE, UM, FINDINGS FOR DENIAL ARE PRETTY, PRETTY HIGH.

SO I THINK WHAT WE WOULD TYPICALLY FIND IN, IN, UH, A STACKING DENSITY BONUS PROJECT IS WE WOULD JUST GET DOWN TO A VERY SMALL MICRO UNIT APPROACH, UM, OR SOMETHING AT LEAST ON SOME OF THE UNITS.

DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? OKAY, GREAT.

I KNOW SOMETIMES YOU SORT OF ENVISION HOW THAT MIGHT LOOK, RIGHT? AND YOU WANNA THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, FLOOR LAYOUTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO YEAH.

THEN, UM, AB 2011 CAME ALONG IN 2022 ALLOWING, UH, STREAMLINED MINISTERIAL APPROVAL, UH, FOR PROJECTS LOCATED IN OFFICE RETAIL OR PARKING ZONES, WHERE, WHERE THOSE LAND USES ARE PRINCIPALLY PERMITTED USE.

AND AGAIN, THROUGH THAT MINISTERIAL APPROVAL PROCESS, IT ELIMINATES CQA.

AND SO IT HAD THE EFFECT OF, OF, UM, PROVIDING THAT ADDITIONAL BENEFIT TO THOSE PROJECTS.

UM, I THINK THIS IS A, A REALLY IMPORTANT LEGISLATION IN JURISDICTIONS WHERE THEY ARE EXPERIENCING SIGNIFICANT VACANCIES, ESPECIALLY IN OFFICE SQUARE FOOTAGES.

UH, AND THEN WE'RE SEEING SOME LAYERING ON OF BOTH STATE LEGISLATION AND, BUT ESPECIALLY LOCAL LEGISLATION TO ALLOW FOR OR TO FACILITATE CONVERSION OF OFFICE USES.

IN PARTICULAR, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IT, UH, IS CHALLENGING WHEN WE THINK ABOUT PERHAPS THIS HAPPENING TO SAY, UH, A TRADITIONAL STRIP COMMERCIAL RETAIL SHOPPING CENTER, IT MAY NOT BE THE LIMITATIONS OF THE LOCAL LAND USES OR THE LOCAL DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT ARE STYMIEING, UH, REDEVELOPMENT OF THOSE SITES.

IT MAY BE EXISTING LEASING, YOU KNOW, ARRANGEMENTS, CONTRACTS WITH RETAILERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT ARE PRETTY TIGHT AND THAT ARE VERY DIFFICULT FOR THE PROPERTY OWNERS, UM, TO GET THOSE, THOSE SITES OUT OF THOSE, UH, LEASE LEASED, UM, ARRANGEMENTS AND CONTRACTS.

SURE.

UM, WHERE DOES ADAPTIVE REUSE FALL IN TERMS OF AVAILABLE DENSITY BONUSES OR INCENTIVES AND CONCESSIONS? WOULD THIS BE APPLICABLE? LIKE IF YOU, I ASSUME THIS IS APPLIED MORE TO ZONED LOTS AND GROUND UP RESIDENTIAL, BUT IF YOU HAD AN ADAPTIVE REUSE PROJECT WHERE YOU WANTED TO CONVERT, SAY, A FACTORY TO MM-HMM .

LOFTS OR WHATEVER IT IS, UM, ARE THERE BONUSES.

SURE.

I THINK YOU COULD LAYER YOUR DENSITY BONUS ON TOP OF IT.

OKAY.

YEAH.

YOU WOULD HAVE TO IMPUTE YOUR DENSITY.

MM-HMM .

IF YOUR DENSITY ISN'T ESTABLISHED, THEN YOU WOULD IMPUTE IT.

OKAY.

AND, UM, AND THE STATE PROVIDES A PROCESS FOR CALCULATING THAT.

OKAY.

YEAH.

MM-HMM .

THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

I HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT IT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.

UM, THEN AB 2243 EXPANDED 2011, UM, ALLOWS FOR MIXED INCOME PROJECTS ON REGIONAL MALL SITES.

SO WE CAN SEE THERE, THEY'RE SORT OF TAILORING SOME OF THIS LEGISLATION TO, TO JURISDICTIONS THAT NEED CERTAIN BENEFITS OR, UH, NEED TO BREAK THROUGH CERTAIN, UM, UH, LOCAL REGULATIONS, MIXED INCOME PROJECTS LOCATED IN COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS, UM, WITHIN 500 FEET OF A FREEWAY.

SO WE'D REALLY JUST SEE SOME FINE TUNING OF, UM, 2011 THROUGH, UH, AB 2243.

THEN SB SIX, THE MIDDLE CLASS HOUSING ACT ALLOWS RESIDENTIAL USES ON ANY PARCEL ZONE FOR OFFICE RETAILER PARKING PROJECTS ARE NOT EXEMPT FROM CE QA, SO IT'S, IT'S NOT A, IT'S A STREAMLINING PROCESS, BUT IT'S NOT A, UH, MINISTERIAL STREAMLINING PROCESS.

UH, HOWEVER, THEY COULD INVOKE SB 35 IN THE HOUSING ACCOUNTABILITY ACT.

UH, YOU CAN ACHIEVE IT WITH LOWER MINIMUM DENSITY REQUIREMENTS, NOT SUBJECT TO THE AFFORD THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING REQUIREMENTS OF, SAY, PERHAPS SB 35, BUT COULD STILL BE SUBJECT TO, UH, THE LOCAL INCLUSIONARY HOUSING REQUIREMENT.

AND THEN SB NINE, WHICH IS, UM, IS, I THINK, FAIRLY POPULAR.

UH, AND, AND REALLY PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

THIS, UH, ALLOWS MINISTERIAL APPROVAL OF HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS OF TWO OR FEWER UNITS OF AT LEAST 800 SQUARE FEET.

SO THAT WOULD BE A TWO UNIT DEVELOPMENT.

YOU MIGHT HAVE A PARCEL THAT'S DEVELOPED WITH A PRIMARY DWELLING UNIT, TYPICAL SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED.

YOU CAN GO AND ADD A SECOND UNIT TO THAT PARCEL, OR YOU COULD USE THE URBAN LOT SPLIT SUBDIVIDE THAT PARCEL THROUGH MINISTERIAL PROCESS.

AND THEN YOU, YOU'RE ABLE TO DEVELOP THAT, UM, ADDITIONAL UNIT ON THAT NEW PARCEL, UH, THAT ALLOWS YOU TO THEN HAVE A SUBDIVISION TO A PARCEL SIZE

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THAT MIGHT BE LESS THAN WHAT YOUR MINIMUM LOT SIZE MIGHT BE IN YOUR LOCAL REGULATIONS.

AND SO IT WOULD OVERRIDE THAT.

ULTIMATELY, THAT ALLOWS FOR THE CREATION OF UP TO FOUR HOUSING UNITS, UM, THROUGH THE PROCESS OF, OF URBAN LOT SPLIT TWO UNIT DEVELOPMENT.

AND THEN YOU ADD ADUS INTO THAT AND YOU CAN REALLY, REALLY GET SOME MEANINGFUL HOUSING PRODUCTION ON RELATIVELY SMALL SITES.

UH, WE ARE SEEING IT BEING USED, UM, PRIMARILY THE, UH, THE URBAN LOT SPLIT SEEING IT TO SUBDIVIDE LARGER PARCELS AND THEN HAVE THAT, THAT SECOND PARCEL AVAILABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT.

CAN YOU SAY HOW MANY, UH, WE'VE SEEN COME FORWARD? OH, I DON'T HAVE AN EXACT COUNT, BUT I'D WANNA SAY IT'S RIGHT AROUND FIVE.

I THINK WE'VE ALSO SEEN IT USED, FOR INSTANCE, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE AN A DU, YOU COULD DO AN URBAN LOT SPLIT AND, AND THEN SPLIT OFF THAT A DU AND, AND RESULT WITH, YOU KNOW, TWO PARCELS, TWO PRIMARY DWELLING UNITS.

WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF THOSE.

GREAT.

THANKS.

SURE.

UM, AND THEN SB FOUR 50 WAS, UH, EFFORT TO STRENGTHEN SB NINE.

SO WE CAN START TO SEE SOME OF THIS LEGISLATION AS NOT NECESSARILY NEW, BUT IT'S COMING BACK AND TWEAKING EXISTING LEGISLATION AS THE STATE, I THINK WASN'T SEEING SOME OF THE RESULTS THAT THEY ANTICIPATED, BUT ALSO I THINK WE CAN SEE THE STATE STARTING TO UNDERSTAND BETTER HOW DO USE STATEWIDE LEGISLATION TO, UH, SUPPORT HOUSING PRODUCTION AND, AND WHAT THE, UM, HOUSING, UH, THE PRODUCTION COMMUNITY, UH, NEEDS.

UM, THIS WAS INTERESTING BECAUSE THEN WE STARTED TO SEE THE ROLE OF, UM, HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BEING STRENGTHENED.

AND SO HERE WE SEE THAT IT GAVE THE, GAVE HCD OVERSIGHT AND ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITY OVER SB NINE.

RECENTLY THERE WAS ADDITIONAL LEGISLATION, UH, THAT, THAT GAVE US GUIDANCE ON THE REGULATORY AUTHORITY OF, UM, HCD INTERPRETATIONS, TECHNICAL ADVISORIES, HANDBOOKS, AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHICH HAVE BEEN A SORT OF AN OUTSTANDING QUESTION FOR US FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.

SO THEN SB UH, FROM SB NINE, WE HAD SB 10, 6 84 AND 1123.

UH, SB 10 JUST ALLOWED, UM, SORT OF A, A STREAMLINING OF, OF HIGHER DENSITY DEVELOPMENT UP TO 10 UNITS ON A SINGLE PARCEL.

IT PRESUMED THAT THAT PARCEL WAS REZONED FOR, UH, MULTIFAMILY OR MULTIPLE, UH, HOUSING UNITS.

UM, BUT THEN AT 6 84 SOON FOLLOWED, THOUGH, I THINK BECAUSE WE WEREN'T SEEING MUCH ACTION WITH SB 10, WITH 6 84 AND 1123, WE'RE REALLY STARTING TO SEE QUITE A BIT MORE ACTIVITY AROUND THIS, THIS INFILL HOUSING DEVELOPMENT CONCEPT WHERE YOU, YOU MIGHT BE DOING SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED ON INDIVIDUAL PARCELS, BUT IT'S SUITABLE FOR INFILL.

WE ARE WORKING ON AN 1123 PROJECT THAT WE ANTICIPATE COMING IN, UM, HERE WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO.

SURE.

DO YOU THINK ALL OF THESE INSTANCES IN WHICH THIS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE SORT OF BUILDING OFF OF PREVIOUS LEGISLATION DUE TO THE PREVIOUS LEGISLATION, NOT, YOU KNOW, CRACKING OPEN HOUSING PRODUCTION IN THE WAY THAT THE STATE HAD HOPED, IS THAT LACK OF UH, UH, EXPANSION OF HOUSING PRODUCTION, DO YOU THINK DUE TO LIKE, THERE WAS JUST STILL UNCERTAINTY BECAUSE THE, THE STATE LEGISLATION WASN'T STRONG ENOUGH? OR FINANCIAL IMPACT, SORT OF.

WHY DO WE KEEP SEEING INSTANCES WHERE, YOU KNOW, A, A MAJOR CHANGE COMES DOWN, WE WEIGHED A LITTLE BIT TO SEE, AND THEN NOTHING REALLY HAPPENS, SO WE GOTTA MAKE MORE CHANGES? WELL, I, I, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S BECAUSE THE STATE LOOKS AT HOUSING PRODUCTION NUMBERS AND JUST DOESN'T SEE THOSE NUMBERS WHERE THEY WANT THEM, THAT LEVEL OF PRODUCTION ACTIVITY.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT HOW, HOW CAN YOU INCENTIVIZE HOUSING THROUGH POLICY AND REGULATIONS OR THROUGH FINANCIAL INCENTIVES, IF YOU'RE SOME, IF YOUR, IF YOUR FINANCIAL INCENTIVES OPPORTUNITIES ARE LIMITED, THEN YOU MIGHT BE WORKING MORE OVER IN YOUR POLICIES AND REGULATIONS TO DO AS MUCH AS YOU CAN JUST TO MOVE THE NEEDLE.

SO, GOT, CAN I BUILD OFF THAT QUESTION? MM-HMM .

UM, ARE THESE, UH, IS THIS LEGISLATION, DOES IT TEND TO FAVOR LARGER SCALE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT? IT, IT SEEMS LIKE IT JUST IN THE READING, BUT LIKE, HOW DO WE SEE THAT PLAY OUT HERE IN, IN, IN PROPOSED PROJECTS, MAYBE INITIALLY? I THINK INITIALLY IT DID WITH SB UH, 35, 3 30 DENSITY BONUS, YOU KNOW, STRENGTHENING THAT AND SO FORTH.

HOWEVER, WITH THE 9 10, 6 84, 11 23 THERE, I THINK THAT THEY'RE SEEING THE POWER OF THE, UM, THIS SORT OF INFILL HOUSING,

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YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT, YOU KNOW, WE OFTENTIMES REFER TO AS MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING AND THE NEED TO BE ABLE TO FACILITATE THAT IN JURISDICTIONS.

YEAH, SURE.

AND THEN AB 8 0 3, THE STARTER HOME REVITALIZATION ACT, UM, ALLOWS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A SMALL HOME LOT DEVELOPMENT ON PARCELS NO LARGER THAN FIVE ACRES.

AND AGAIN, HERE WE SEE THAT THEME OF SURROUNDED BY, UM, SUBSTANTIALLY SURROUNDED BY URBAN USES, UM, THEN SOME ZONING REQUIREMENTS.

WE SEE THE ROLE OF OBJECTIVE STANDARDS COMING INTO PLAY AND, UM, THEN PROHIBITED ON A SITE IDENTIFIED IN THE JURISDICTIONS HOUSING ELEMENT THAT WOULD ACCOMMODATE HOUSING NEEDS FOR LOW INCOME OR VERY LOW INCOME HOUSEHOLDS.

I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH, UM, THIS, UH, AB 8 0 3 HAS BEEN USED.

UM, I KNOW THAT I'VE NEVER WORKED WITH IT.

I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S POPULAR UP HERE IN THE NORTH BAY, BUT IT MIGHT BE MORE SO IN OTHER PARTS OF THE STATE.

THEN OF COURSE, WE HAVE THE STATE A DU REGULATIONS, WHICH HAVE BEEN KIND OF ALL OVER THE PLACE AS, AS THE STATE HAS REALLY LANDED ON ADUS AS A VIABLE HOUSING TYPE, AND ONE THAT SEEMS TO BE ABLE TO, UM, BE, UH, BE PRODUCED, UH, THROUGHOUT LOCAL JURISDICTION.

SO AB 31, 82 AND 2020.

UM, BUT THEN WE GO ALL THE WAY BACK TO JUST A VARIETY OF PIECES OF LEGISLATION THAT HAVE REALLY SOUGHT TO JUST, UH, MAKE A DU PRODUCTION ACCESSIBLE TO HOMEOWNERS, UH, PRIMARILY TO HOMEOWNERS, UM, BOTH, BOTH IN TERMS OF REGULATORY FRAMEWORKS, BUT THEN ALSO COST TO REDUCE THAT COST BARRIER, UH, WILL BE, WE WILL BE BRINGING FORWARD THE A DU ORDINANCE FOR AN UPDATE.

UH, IT IS REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH STATE REGULATIONS, AND WE ANTICIPATE HAVING A STUDY SESSION ON THAT, EITHER AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER OR EARLY OCTOBER, UH, BEFORE WE THEN BRING IT FORWARD TO YOU FOR RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL.

AND THEN HERE'S JUST A BIT MORE ABOUT THE, UM, A DU REGULATIONS.

UM, WE DID SEE WITH THE INTRODUCTION OF, UH, KIND OF AROUND 2023, UM, I BELIEVE WAS WHEN THE STATE ALLOWED US TO, UH, INCLUDE ADUS AND MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS.

AT THE, AT THE BEGINNING IT WAS JUST THE CONVERSION OF EXISTING NON HABITABLE OR LIVING SPACE, BUT THAT SINCE HAS BEEN EXPANDED AS WELL.

UH, ONE EXAMPLE LOCALLY IS THE, UM, JUST DOWN ON WASHINGTON STREET ACROSS FROM THE GOLDEN EAGLE, THE, I FORGET THE NAME OF THAT, DOWNTOWN RIVER EDEN.

DOWNTOWN RIVER APARTMENTS.

RIGHT.

THE EDEN PROJECT.

YEAH.

DOWNTOWN RIVER APARTMENTS WHERE THEY'VE, THEY'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, THE, THE GROUND FLOOR COMMERCIAL WAS UNDERPERFORMING FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, AND SO THEY WERE ABLE TO CONVERT SOME OF THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE TO SIX ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS THAT ARE INCOME RESTRICTED.

SO STARTING TO SEE HOW SOME OF THIS A DU LEGISLATION PLAYS OUT, UH, FOR EXISTING MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT.

AND THEN FINALLY, THE, THE LATEST ONE IS, UH, ANOTHER BILL SPONSORED BY SENATOR WIENER, SB 79.

AND THIS HAS THE EFFECT OF CREATING NEW STANDARDS, BOTH HEIGHT, UH, DENSITY, AND, UM, FAR FOR, UH, HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ADJACENT TO MAJOR PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION STOPS.

IT INTRODUCED, UM, TIERING OF TRANSPORTATION STOPS BASED UPON THE SERVICES THAT THEY OFFER, THE TYPE OF, THE TYPE OF CONNECTIVITY AND, AND, UM, AND TRANSIT THAT IS AVAILABLE.

UM, THAT ACTUALLY GOES TO THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE ON THE 29TH, AND THEN OUT OF THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE WOULD COME TO THE FULL GENERAL ASSEMBLY, UM, FOR VOTE.

AND ONE WOULD IMAGINE, WE'LL THEN GO FORWARD TO THE GOVERNOR.

ALTHOUGH IT IS INTERESTING TO NOTE, I BELIEVE LOS ANGELES CITY COUNCIL VOTED NOT TO SUPPORT SB 79 LAST WEEK.

I THINK.

SO THEY ARE SEEING, EXPERIENCING SOME PUSHBACK FROM CERTAIN JURISDICTIONS.

SO WHAT WERE THE REASONS FOR THAT? DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY HISTORY ON, I MEAN, NIMBYISM JUST FLAT OUT IT WAS, IT WAS A SPLIT VOTE, BUT YEAH, IT WAS A LOT OF NIMBYISM, BUT SAN DIEGO SUPPORTED IT.

BARBARA LEE SUPPORTED IT.

KATIE PORTER SUPPORTED IT.

I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE SUPPORTING IT TOO, SO, RIGHT, MM-HMM .

BUT AGAIN, I THINK IT REALLY SHOWS THAT RELATIONSHIP OF HOUSING PRODUCTION AND, AND HOW, AND, AND TRANSIT.

RIGHT.

AND SO THE TRANSIT IS SO DEPENDENT, ESPECIALLY THESE, THESE MAJOR TRANSIT PROJECTS THAT ARE VERY, UM, COSTLY TO BUILD AND THE NEED TO HAVE HOUSING AND RIDERSHIP IN, IN CLOSE PROXIMITY.

SO, UM, A QUESTION ON THAT.

SURE.

SO, UM, I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING IT FAIRLY CLOSELY.

I'M A SUPPORTER OF IT.

UM,

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UH, ONE THING THAT I DON'T HAVE ANY ANSWER TO YET IS, WOULD IT BE ABLE TO REZONE OUR MOBILE HOME PARKS? OOH, THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING.

CLASH OF STATE OBJECTIVES, WOULDN'T IT? CORRECT.

.

LEMME WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT AND GET BACK TO YOU.

GREAT.

THANKS.

FOR SURE.

THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

THANK YOU.

COULD I ASK, UH, MAYBE WE COULD TABLE THIS, BUT WHOEVER MIGHT WANNA GET BACK TO ME ON IT, TRANSIT CONTINUITY HERE IN TOWN, LIKE BIKE PATHS AND THE BIKE COMMITTEE, UM, SMART TRAIN, CONTINUITY FUTURE PLANS, HOW THAT'S MAYBE PROJECTING OUT AND HOW THE TOWN, UM, IS JUST TRYING TO ENCOURAGE ALL OF THAT AND DEVELOPMENT AROUND IT.

WHO WOULD BE THE BEST PERSON TO, TO LEARN THAT? ARE WE DUE FOR AN A TP UPDATE? MM-HMM .

THAT, YEAH.

THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN IS A SIGNIFICANT PART OF THE GENERAL PLAN UPDATE, UM, WHICH HAS COME BEFORE US SOME AND THE PAC FOLKS A LOT.

UM, SO YEAH, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK BEING DONE ON, ON THAT CONTINUITY.

I THINK THE COUNCIL'S HEARING THE A TP I'LL LOOK IN MY EMAIL AND GET BACK TO YOU, BUT THAT'S LIKE ONE, ONE WAY FOR THE, THE BIKE HEAD WORK.

UM, IF YOU'RE REALLY INTERESTED, MAYBE YOU CAN JOIN THE COMMITTEE.

WE, WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER ITEM ON THAT , UM, UH, WE ALREADY HAVE THE FEEDBACK LIAISON.

OH YEAH.

I'LL GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT.

OKAY.

UM, GREAT, GREAT QUESTIONS.

AND SO THEN AB ONE 30, SB 1 31, THAT WAS THE MAJOR, UH, CQA REFORM LEGISLATION THAT WAS JUST RECENTLY SIGNED BY THE GOVERNOR.

UM, HERE WE'VE GOT JUST A VERY BROAD SKETCH OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT IT DOES.

WE DO HAVE A DETAILED MEMO, UM, THAT I'LL BE SHARING WITH YOU, UH, PROBABLY THIS WEEK YET THAT TAKES A DEEPER DIVE ON IT AND, UM, AND HELPS UNPACK IT A LITTLE BIT MORE.

UH, WE'RE REALLY JUST STARTING TO LEARN HOW TO WORK WITH THIS LEGISLATION AND, UM, AND ARE SEEING A LOT OF INQUIRIES.

UH, M GROUP CONSULTING IS SEEING A LOT OF INQUIRIES FROM OTHER JURISDICTIONS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND ITS APPLICABILITY BOTH TO PROJECTS THAT ARE UNDER REVIEW, BUT ALSO PIPELINE PROJECTS.

AND PETALUMA IS NO EXCEPTION THERE.

OKAY.

AND SO WITH THAT, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

I APPRECIATE THE QUESTIONS DURING THE PRESENTATION.

I ALWAYS THINK THAT'S A BETTER FORMAT, UH, BUT JUST KNOW THAT, UM, AGAIN, THIS WAS JUST INTENDED TO BE A SURVEY, UH, SORT OF FAMILIARIZE OURSELVES WITH SOME OF THE THEMES THAT WE'RE SEEING AND SUCH, UH, IN PREPARATION FOR SOME OF THE SPECIFIC AMENDMENTS AND UPDATES THAT WILL COME FORWARD THIS FALL.

COMMISSIONER? NO, I, I WAS HOPING YOU HAD TOUCHED ON THIS BRIEFLY, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT A LAWSUIT HAS BEEN FILED AGAINST, UH, JURISDICTION IN CALIFORNIA CONTENDING THAT A REQUIREMENT FOR A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITHIN A DEVELOPMENT IS, UH, A TAKING.

UM, OH, INTERESTING.

UH, ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THIS? MM-HMM .

IS.

OKAY.

UH, UM, PERHAPS WE COULD, WAS IT, WAS IT LIKE A PENINSULA SOUTH BAY, OR? IT'S A, I BELIEVE A PACIFIC LEGAL FOUNDATION.

OKAY.

KIND OF, YOU KNOW, UM, ATTEMPT TO RESTRICT, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN, IN DEVELOPMENTS.

UM, ANYWAY, WE CAN TALK OFFLINE ABOUT IT.

I'M, I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT HOW, HOW THAT, YOU KNOW, HOW WE'RE TRACKING THAT.

MM-HMM .

CAN'T HELP BUT THINK OF THE BERKELEY CASE THAT UNDID THE OPPORTUNITY TO REQUIRE FULLY ELECTRIC, SORT OF SOUNDS LIKE A SIMILAR APPROACH, RIGHT? MM-HMM .

I THINK THERE'S BEEN A LOT ON THE PENINSULA ABOUT LIKE SAVING BOBCATS OR DEVELOPING WILDLIFE REFUGE ZONES, TOO.

I KNOW THAT'S RESTRICTED A LOT OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT OR DEVELOPABLE AREA.

GREAT.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? NO, THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION.

UM, JUST TO GET BACK, SO SEPTEMBER 8TH IS THE COUNCIL MEETING.

TENTATIVELY I THINK I, I DON'T HAVE THE AGENDA, BUT THE PLANNER SAYS THAT SEPTEMBER 8TH WAS WHEN WE WILL ADOPT THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN AT COUNCIL.

SO YEAH.

WHEN WILL WE GET THIS, UM, A DU UPDATE IN THE FALL, YOU THINK? UM, WELL, IT WOULD BE IF THE STUDY SESSION, IF NOT SEPTEMBER 23RD, THEN EARLY OCTOBER, WE, WE WOULD DO A STUDY SESSION FIRST, A STUDY SESSION ON IT.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

MM-HMM .

I, I'LL, I'LL SAVE THIS FOR A COMMENT.

UM, OKAY.

UH, YES, COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, SO LA HAD

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ED ONE EXECUTIVE DIRECTIVE ONE.

ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THAT? UM, NO.

.

OKAY.

SO I, I IT'S A FULL-TIME JOB TRYING TO FOCUS HOSPITAL.

TOTALLY.

YEAH.

I'LL SEND YOU THE INFORMATION ON IT, BUT BASICALLY IT JUST LIKE, LIKE REALLY RESTRICTED DOWN, LIKE THE, THE TIMELINES OF THINGS MM-HMM .

AND THEY STARTED SEEING LIKE AN INFLUX OF AFFORDABLE, FULLY AFFORDABLE PROJECTS THAT HAD ZERO PUBLIC SUBSIDIES MM-HMM .

UM, AND THEN LIKE SO MANY THAT THEY ACTUALLY LIKE REFORMED IT TO STOP, UH, TO TH THROW IT BACK.

SO ANYWAY, ANYWAY, JUST SOMETHING TO LOOK AT MM-HMM .

BUT I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU'VE, IF YOU'VE SEEN THAT.

I THINK, I THINK THAT AS WE GET INTO THE ZONING CODE UPDATE, UM, WE CAN START LOOKING AT SOME OF THOSE TOOLS.

UH, THAT'S WHERE, WHERE WE CAN REALLY EXPLORE SOME OF THOSE OPTIONS.

BUT I, I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF, OF TALKING THROUGH THEM DURING THE A D ORDINANCE UPDATE, THE DENSITY BONUS UPDATE, KIND OF, UM, CONCEPTUALIZING SOME IDEAS FOR, YOU KNOW, UH, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE STATE JUST SAYS WHAT WE HAVE TO DO, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE CAN'T GO BEYOND IT.

RIGHT.

WHICH IS, I THINK YOUR POINT WITH LA, UM, THAT THEY WENT BEYOND THAT.

SO IT, IT WILL BE, UH, GREAT OPPORTUNITIES TO TALK AND START TRACKING SOME OF THESE IDEAS.

ALRIGHT.

GREAT.

THANK YOU ALL.

GREAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT PRESENTATION AND FOR FIELDING OUR QUESTIONS.

I'M GOING TO MOVE US ALONG INTO PUBLIC COMMENT UNLESS WE HAVE ANY FINAL QUESTIONS AT THIS STAGE.

OKAY, GREAT.

LET'S HIT INTO PUBLIC COMMENT.

UM, AND I'LL ASK THE CLERK IF WE RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS ON THIS PRESENTATION BEFORE THE MEETING? NO PUBLIC COMMENTS WE RECEIVED PRIOR TO THE MEETING.

OKAY.

AND THEN DID WE RECEIVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? NO SPEAKER CARDS WERE RECEIVED.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THEN WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND BRING IT BACK TO COMMISSIONERS FOR COMMISSIONER COMMENTS, ANYTHING ON MEETING ITEM ONE? COMMENTS? I'LL JUST MAKE A QUICK ONE THEN.

UM, ON THAT A DU PRESENTATION, IT IS TOPICAL GIVEN SOME CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD AS OF LATE IN WHICH I THINK A LOT OF FOLKS, UM, ARE BULLISH ON ADUS, THE STATE INCLUDED.

UM, AND WE, YOU KNOW, I'LL SAY FOR MYSELF, ANECDOTALLY, I'VE HEARD FROM SOME FOLKS WHO SAID, OH YEAH, I WANTED TO DO AN A DU AND IT WAS A PAIN, I COULDN'T DO IT.

YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT IT, I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GOOD.

AND YOU KNOW, WHEN A, WHEN A HOMEOWNER THINKS AN A DU WILL PENCIL, THEY'LL MAKE IT HAPPEN IN, IN A WAY THAT A DEVELOPER, UM, MIGHT HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE SCRUTINY AT THE NUMBERS.

SO WHEN I PUSHED A LITTLE FURTHER, I SAID, WELL, WHEN DID YOU TRY? AND LO AND BEHOLD, IT WAS A WHILE AGO, .

SO TO THE EXTENT THAT THIS A DU ORDINANCE UPDATE COULD ALSO SERVE AS A BIT OF A, A COMING OUT FOR THE HOPEFULLY MUCH EASIER AND STREAMLINED A DU PROCESS TO RE-INVITE SOME FOLKS INTO THE FOLD WHO HAD MAYBE CONSIDERED ADUS PREVIOUSLY BEFORE THERE HAD BEEN ALL OF THESE CHANGES, UM, TO MAKE IT EASIER.

AND I, IF MEMORY SERVES, I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER RI HAS SUCCESSFULLY GOTTEN HIS A DU SQUARED AWAY, SO MAYBE HE COULD BE OUR, OUR OUR, UH, USE CASE EXAMPLE TO SHOW, OR I BELIEVE THERE'S A BLOG AND A VIDEO OKAY.

ABOUT IT AS WELL.

SURE.

UM, SO YEAH, JUST A REQUEST TO, UM, HAVE SOME PORTION OF THAT A DU UPDATE EITHER WITH US OR IF IT IS GOING TO COUNCIL TO HAVE, UH, A POINT FOR WELCOMING BACK THOSE WHO HAD PREVIOUSLY CONSIDERED AND MAYBE HIT SOME ROADBLOCKS TO SAY, NOW WE'VE, WE'VE DONE OUR BEST TO REMOVE THOSE ROADBLOCKS AND GIVE IT ANOTHER TRY.

COME SEE US AT THE WINDOW.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

FINAL THING TOO, UM, ASSUMING SB 79 DOES PASS, THERE'S GONNA BE PROVISIONS IN THERE THAT ARE GONNA POTENTIALLY MAKE EXISTING PROJECTS FEASIBLE, THINKING LIKE 1 31 LIBERTY, UM, RIGHT.

IT'S WITHIN A HALF A MILE, IT WOULD BE.

UM, SO JUST KIND OF LOOKING AT THAT AND LOOKING AT EXISTING LANDOWNERS WHERE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, SORT OF LIKE STUCK WITH OUR 30 UNIT PER ACRE ZONING OR WHAT HAVE YOU.

UM, LIKE REALLY IT TAKES, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE CONSTERNATION AROUND ZONING, UM, YOU KNOW, WITHIN A HALF MILE OF THE TRAIN STATION AND DRAMATICALLY INCREASES IT FROM WHAT WE HAVE MAKING, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THINGS POTENTIALLY DO FEASIBLE, SO.

GREAT.

RIGHT.

AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, TOO, ALL OF THOSE APPROVED PROJECTS HAVE BEEN ABLE TO, UM, THE ENTITLEMENTS HAVE STAYED WHAT WE, WE, WE CALL, WE SAY THEY'VE STAYED ALIVE, BUT THEY'VE STAYED ACTIVE AND VALID THROUGH, UM, AB 27 29.

SO WE'VE BEEN MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE EVALUATED FOR THAT AND, AND EVERYTHING'S BEEN ELIGIBLE SO FAR.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY FINAL COMMENTS ON MEETING ITEM ONE? NONE.

GREAT.

THEN WE WILL CLOSE MEETING ITEM ONE AND CONTINUE ON WITH OUR AGENDA.

NEXT SECTION IS APPROVAL OF

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

MINUTES.

UM, WE DO HAVE A BIT OF A BACKLOG TO WORK THROUGH ON OUR APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THEM ONE BY ONE.

AND I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT WE ARE SPANNING, UH, BODIES HERE.

WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT, UH,

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MINUTES FROM MEETINGS THAT WERE HELD BEFORE, A VARIETY OF OUR CURRENT COMMISSIONERS WERE ON THE COMMISSION, UM, ACCORDING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION RULE FIVE 12.

UM, IF A NEWLY APPOINTED COMMISSIONER HAS REVIEWED, UM, THE, THE MEETING PRIOR, YOU ARE WELCOME TO VOTE ON THE MINUTES.

IF NOT, WE DO ASK THAT YOU ABSTAIN.

UM, SO WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO MEETING ITEM TWO, WHICH IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR THE MEETING ON MARCH 25TH, 2025.

UM, AT THAT COMMISSION MEETING, WE HAD COMMISSIONERS, NEWELL RASON, MYSELF AND COUNCIL MEMBER BARNELL IN ATTENDANCE AGAIN ON MARCH 25TH.

UM, SO I WILL NOW INVITE COMMISSIONERS AND THE COUNCIL MEMBER TO PROVIDE AMENDMENTS, IF ANY.

SEEING NONE, WE WILL CONSIDER THOSE MINUTES APPROVED AND CLOSE OUT MEETING ITEM TWO AND MOVE ON TO MEETING ITEM THREE, WHICH IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR THE MEETING ON APRIL 8TH, 2025.

UM, I WILL RECOGNIZE THE STAFF REQUEST HERE, UM, FOR AN AMENDMENT TO CHANGE THE DATE OF THE MINUTES.

UM, I THINK THERE WAS A BIT OF A, A TYPO THERE, UM, THAT STILL HAD THIS DOCUMENT AS MARCH 25TH, 2025, AND IT OUGHT TO BE REVISED TO APRIL 8TH, 2025.

AT THAT MEETING, WE HAD COMMISSIONER NEWELL, KUSON, MYSELF AND COMMISSIONER, AND COUNCIL MEMBER BARNELL.

AGAIN, THAT'S APRIL 8TH.

UM, ANY AMENDMENTS TO THOSE MINUTES, ASIDE FROM THE DATE CHANGE? OKAY.

GIVEN THAT WE'VE GOT AN AMENDMENT, DO I NEED, DO WE NEED TO VOTE MORE OFFICIALLY OR CAN WE CONSIDER THAT APPROVED WITH THE AMENDMENT? WELL, WE SHOULD DO A VOTE.

OKAY.

BECAUSE WE'VE GOT AN AMENDMENT TO THAT ONE.

MM-HMM .

OKAY.

UM, SO AGAIN, WE'RE BACK ON MEETING ITEM THREE, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FOR APRIL 8TH WITH AN AMENDMENT TO REVISE THE DATE FROM MARCH 25TH, 25 TO APRIL 8TH, 2025.

COULD WE HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE OF THE APPROPRIATE COMMISSIONERS PLEASE? DO WE NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND? OH, YES.

.

SO MOVED.

CAN YOU UNMUTE AND SAY THAT? SO MOVED.

I'LL SECOND.

SECOND.

THANK YOU.

OH, WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE MORE ON IT CALL, RIGHT? IS THAT THE ISSUE? BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE, SO IF WE DO WITH, WITH, UH, VICE CHAIR RAKU AND ABSENT, THAT WOULD ONLY GIVE US THREE VOTES ON, RIGHT? WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM FOR A VOTE ON THIS ITEM, GIVEN THAT WE ARE RESTRICTED TO.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO I GUESS WE'LL JUST CONTINUE THAT.

SO WE'LL CONTINUE MEETING ITEM THREE AND COME BACK TO THE APRIL 8TH.

RIGHT.

UM, MINUTES WHEN WE ARE ABLE AND MOVE ON TO MEETING ITEM FOUR, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FOR THE MEETING ON JULY 8TH, UM, WHICH WAS THE MEETING AT WHICH ALL OF YOU WERE APPOINTED.

SO WE'RE BACK TO THE FULL GROUP.

UM, ANY AMENDMENTS FOR THE JULY 8TH MEETING? MINUTES.

OKAY.

SEEING NONE.

SO WE'LL CONSIDER THOSE APPROVED AND CONTINUE ON TO MEETING ITEM FOUR, EXCUSE ME, FIVE, UM, APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR THE MEETING OF JULY 22ND, 2025.

AND I'LL ASK ANY COMMISSIONERS TO PROVIDE AMENDMENTS.

OKIE DOKE.

NO AMENDMENTS.

SO WE WILL APPROVE THOSE MINUTES AS PUBLISHED.

AND THE MEETING ITEM FIVE CLOSES US OUT OF THOSE MINUTE APPROVALS.

THANK YOU, EVERYONE.

.

UM, AND WE'LL COME BACK TO APRIL 8TH, ANOTHER TIME.

UM, THAT TAKES US TO

[PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION]

MEETING ITEM SIX, WHICH AS I STATED AT THE BEGINNING, WE'RE GOING TO TOSS TO THE END AND SKIP AHEAD TO MEETING ITEM SEVEN, WHICH IS OUR ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION.

UM, THIS IS A NOMINATION AND REAPPOINTMENT OF, OR EXCUSE ME, APPOINTMENT OF PLANNING COMMISSIONER, UM, TO THE COMMISSION LIAISON ROLE ON THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

THIS ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION ITEM DOES NOT REQUIRE A DISCRETIONARY LAND USE ACTION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

THEREFORE, ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW UNDER SE, QA IS NOT REQUIRED.

THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING AND DOES NOT REQUIRE DISCLOSING ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS.

AND I WILL TURN IT OVER TO PLANNING MANAGER ANDREW TRIPLE TO PRESENT.

GREAT.

THANKS, CHAIR.

SO, SO THIS MEETING ITEM WOULD JUST, UM, WITH THE APPOINTMENT TO THE, OF A, UH, PLANNING COMMISSIONER TO THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE WOULD CONCLUDE, UH, THE APPOINTMENTS OF COMMISSIONERS TO THE OTHER CCBS.

UM, THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE DOES

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MEET ONCE A MONTH, UM, ON, UH, WEDNESDAY AT 3:00 PM I BELIEVE IT IS.

AND, UH, SO WE CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THAT THAT CAN PRESENT A CONFLICT, UM, FOR, FOR, UH, COMMISSIONERS.

HOWEVER, UM, IF WE DO HAVE COMMISSIONERS INTERESTED, WE'RE HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN QUESTIONS OR CHAIR IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO, UH, TAKE A NOMINATION.

UH, A COMMISSIONER CAN BE NOMINATED BY ANOTHER COMMISSIONER OR CAN SELF NOMINATE FOR THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE LIAISON ROLE.

EXCELLENT.

ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, THEN LET'S OPEN IT UP FOR, UH, NOMINATIONS OR SELF NOMINATIONS FOR THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE LIAISON.

I'LL SELF NOMINATE.

EXCELLENT.

ANYONE ELSE? GREAT.

THANK YOU.

COULD WE GET A MOTION TO VOTE, PLEASE? I'LL, UH, MAKE A MOTION, UH, TO APPOINT COMMISSIONER HILT TO THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

GET A SECOND.

I SECOND THAT.

THANK YOU.

THEN LET'S PLEASE CONDUCT A ROLL CALL.

VOTE CLERK I, COMMISSIONER EBNER? YES.

COMMISSIONER GOLDMAN? YES.

COMMISSIONER NEWELL? YES.

COMMISSIONER KUSON? ABSENT.

COMMISSIONER.

OH, COMMISSIONER HILT.

OKAY.

? YES.

.

COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLE.

YES.

CHAIR MOSES? YES.

MOTION PASSED.

EXCELLENT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SERVING AS OUR LIAISON AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR READOUTS FROM THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

ALRIGHT, SO WE WILL GET OURSELVES BACK TO WHAT WAS MEETING ITEM SIX.

NOW, MEETING ITEM SEVEN, WHICH IS OUR PUBLIC HEARING.

UM, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING RECOMMENDATION, UM, TO THE CITY OF PETALUMA PLANNING COMMISSION TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER A RESOLUTION RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO ADOPT, ADOPT AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2,900 NCS CONCERNING THE DOWNTOWN HOUSING AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY OVERLAY TO RESTORE FLOOR AREA RATIO, ALSO KNOWN AS FAR TO 2.5 IN TABLE 5.2 OF SECTION 5.070 D OF THE PETALUMA IMPLEMENTING ZONING ORDINANCE, ALSO KNOWN AS IO IZO TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT GENERAL PLAN.

THIS IS A DISCRETIONARY ACTION, WHICH REQUIRES ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW UNDER THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT, ALSO KNOWN AS CQA AND FINDING THAT THE ACTION FALLS WITHIN THE FINAL EIR, WHICH HAS SCH NUMBER.

YOU CAN 20 24 0 4 0 5 6 5 CERTIFIED FOR THE PROJECT.

AND THE COMMON SENSE SE QA EXEMPTION, WHICH ARE CQA GUIDELINES 1 5 0 6 1 B THREE.

UH, AT THIS POINT, , I'LL PAUSE, UH, REGARDING RECUSALS FOR THIS PUBLIC HEARING.

DO WE HAVE IT? YES.

UH, I WILL BE RECUSING MYSELF FROM THIS ITEM.

UM, UH, THE BRIEF REASONS FOR RECUSAL ARE THAT, UH, I AM AN ATTORNEY.

MY FIRM, UH, HAS BEEN ASSOCIATED AS COUNSEL, UH, BY THE LAW FIRM THAT REPRESENTS, UH, PETALUMA HISTORICAL ADVOCATES, ADVOCATES, UH, IN THE, UM, THREATENED LITIGATION OR POTENTIALLY ACTUAL LITIGATION FILED AGAINST THE CITY.

UH, SHOOT, MHA WEINBERGER IS THE NAME OF THE FIRM.

SO MY FIRM HAS BEEN ASSOCIATED AS COUNSEL BY SHOOT, MAHALEY WEINBERG, AND BY ANOTHER FIRM CALLED LEADERSHIP COUNSEL FOR JUSTICE AND ACCOUNTABILITY.

AND GIVEN THAT, UH, CO-COUNSELING RELATIONSHIP IN A CASE THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PETALUMA, BUT NEVERTHELESS, I BELIEVE THAT THE MOST APPROPRIATE COURSE OF ACTION FOR ME IS TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM THIS AGENDA ITEM.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UM, AND I'LL STATE THAT I HAVE OFFICE SPACE AT KELLER STREET COWORK, WHICH IS WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF THE, UH, ZONING OVERLAY IN, IN QUESTION HERE.

HOWEVER, IT'S A MONTH, A MONTH LEASE, AND UNDER THE ADVISEMENT OF THE CITY ATTORNEY, THAT DOES NOT REQUIRE RECUSAL.

SO THAT'S MINE.

AND THEN I BELIEVE WE HAD ONE MORE TO NOTE.

UH, YES.

THANK YOU CHAIR.

UH, I HAVE A DISCLOSURE TO MAKE IN THE INTEREST OF TRANSPARENCY.

MY RESIDENCE ADDRESS IS BETWEEN THE 501,000 FOOT RADIUS BOUNDARY.

I HAVE A LEASEHOLD INTEREST, AND, UM, THE CITY ATTORNEY, ERIC DANLEY DID A CONFLICT ANALYSIS AND DETERMINED THAT I DO NOT HAVE A CONFLICT, BUT I DO WANT TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND WITH THAT, WE'LL GIVE COMMISSIONER NOELL A MOMENT TO THANK

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YOU.

AND I WILL ANNOUNCE THAT AS THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, AND, UH, IT DOES REQUIRE DISCLOSING ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION.

SO I'LL ASK COMMISSIONERS NOW IF THEY HAVE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS TO DISCLOSE.

SEEING NONE.

WE WILL, UH, BE WORKING THROUGH THIS PUBLIC HEARING SIMILARLY TO HOW WE HAVE, UM, AT, AT PREVIOUS MEETINGS.

JUST TO LAY IT OUT FOR FOLKS, WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION, UM, AND THEN HAVE QUESTIONS.

LET'S, LET'S HOLD OUR QUESTIONS FOR THIS ONE SINCE WE'RE IN A PUBLIC HEARING AS OPPOSED TO A PRESENTATION.

SO WE'LL DO COMMISSION QUESTIONS AND THEN THAT WILL, AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, HOPEFULLY ACTUALLY END IN A QUESTION MARK AND BE A SORT OF DISCREET ACTIONABLE QUESTION.

UH, AND THEN WE'LL MOVE INTO PUBLIC COMMENT, FOLLOWING PUBLIC COMMENT.

WE'LL HAVE PLANNING COMMISSION DISCUSSION, AND THAT WILL GET US TOWARDS OUR VOTE.

SO WITH THAT, I WILL INVITE WENDY DOW, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY TO PRESENT THANK YOU CHAIR.

AND, UM, MADAM CLERK, DO YOU HAVE A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION FOR THIS THAT COME YOUR WAY? OKAY.

WE'LL BE DOING IT WITHOUT A POWERPOINT.

UM, AND DO YOU PREFER I STAY HERE OR BE AT THE PODIUM? I DIDN'T THINK TO ASK THAT BEFORE.

AS LONG AS YOU SPEAK INTO YOUR MICROPHONE, THEN YOU ARE WELCOME TO STAY THERE.

OKAY, WONDERFUL.

THANK YOU.

UM, SO WE'RE HERE, UH, CONSIDERING THIS FAR MATTER, UM, FOR SOME OF YOU AT LEAST AGAIN, AND, UM, I'LL JUST GO THROUGH SOME BACKGROUND, ALTHOUGH YOU ALL MAY ALREADY BE FAMILIAR.

UM, YOU MAY RECALL THAT, UH, THE CITY COUNCIL IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR ADOPTED BOTH A GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT AND A ZONING CODE AMENDMENT TO MODIFY THE FAR FOR THE SPECIFIC DOWNTOWN AREA, INCREASING THE FAR.

UM, AND THE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT WAS THE SUBJECT OF REFERENDUM.

UM, THAT REFERENDUM'S EFFECT, ONCE THEY QUALIFIED WITH ENOUGH SIGNATURES, UM, SUSPENDED THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT.

UM, BUT THE ZONING OVERLAY WAS NOT REFEREND.

AND SO THAT DID GO INTO EFFECT.

UM, BUT THE LAW REQUIRES THAT THOSE TWO THINGS BE CONSISTENT.

AND WHEN THEY'RE INCONSISTENT BY LAW, WE, THE CITY IS REQUIRED TO MAKE WHATEVER AMENDMENT WITHIN A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME.

SO THE TWO ARE CONSISTENT.

AND SO WHAT WE ARE HERE ASKING YOU GUYS TO DO TODAY IS TO JUST REVERT THAT FAR BACK TO THE PREEXISTING 2.5 STANDARD IN THE ZONING CODE SO THAT IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENTLY IN PLACE GENERAL PLAN DUE TO THE REFERENDUM.

UM, AND THAT IS, UH, IT'S JUST A BASIC STRAIGHTFORWARD REVERSION.

UM, IT IS REQUIRED BY THE LAW.

AND SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT THIS COMMISSION RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL, UM, THAT THIS, UH, ORDINANCE PASS.

AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE THOSE.

COMMISSIONER ABNER, WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR THE FUTURE OF THE OVERLAY? JUST TO KIND OF CATCH ME UP MAYBE? UH, SO THE FUTURE OF THE OVERLAY IS, IS GOING TO LIKELY ULTIMATELY BE IN THE HANDS OF THE VOTERS.

UM, IT'S, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE REFERENDUM.

SO THE CITY COUNCIL HAS THE OPTION, UM, AND IT WILL EVENTUALLY BE ASKED TO DECIDE WHETHER TO, UM, ADOPT THE WHAT IS BEING REFEREND, WHICH WOULD BE TO ROLL BACK THAT GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT OR, UH, TO PLACE IT ON THE BALLOT FOR THE VOTERS TO DECIDE BY MAJORITY VOTE.

UM, AND THEN DEPENDING ON THE OUTCOME OF EITHER OF THOSE ACTIONS, WHICHEVER ROUTE THE CITY COUNCIL DECIDES TO TAKE, UM, I MEAN THAT WOULD BE THE, THE OUTCOME FOR THE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT.

AND THEN, FOR EXAMPLE, IF IT WENT TO VOTE AND THE, UH, VOTERS DECIDED THAT THEY WANTED THE CHANGE AND IMPLEMENTED THAT 6.5 FAR, THEN WE WOULD NEED TO COME BACK AND MAKE THE ORDINANCE, THE ZONING ORDINANCE CONSISTENT AGAIN, CLARIFYING QUESTION.

YEAH, SO IT'S A SIX FAR, NOT 6.50, I'M SORRY.

THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, .

BUT THE OVERLAY ZONE IS IN EFFECT RIGHT NOW, RIGHT? SO WE'RE NOT, SO THE, TO THE EFFECT OF LIKE, WHAT'S THE FUTURE OF THE OVERLAY ZONE, IT'S IN EFFECT RIGHT NOW.

UM, WE ARE AMENDING THE OVERLAY

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ZONE TO MAKE IT A 2.5 FAR BECAUSE THE ONLY PART OF THE GENERAL PLAN THAT IS THAT IS MAPPED TO THE OVERLAY ZONE IS THE FAR, RIGHT? SO THEORETICALLY YOU COULD STILL BUILD A SIX FOOT, A SIX STORY BUILDING.

UM, IT JUST WOULD HAVE TO HAVE AN FAR OF 2.5, RIGHT? SO YOU'RE TALKING LIKE REALLY THING SIX STORY BUILDING, RIGHT? LIKE YEAH, EXACTLY.

RIGHT.

SO, UM, THAT'S LIKE THE, THE EFFECT BASICALLY.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? I HAD WRITTEN MYSELF AN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY, BUT I THINK YOU DID A NICE JOB OF SUCCINCTLY EXPLAINING WHY WE WERE HERE TONIGHT.

AND JUST, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT SORT OF BEFORE US TODAY, WHY WE ARE HOLDING A PUBLIC HEARING IS THAT THE RULES AND PETALUMA SAY THAT IF THERE IS A IEO CHANGE IN FRONT OF THE CITY COUNCIL PLANNING COMMISSION MUST WEIGH IN WITH A RECOMMENDATION.

THAT'S RIGHT.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE ARE HERE TO DISCUSS IS THE RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL TO ADJUST THE IEO TO BRING IT BACK INTO CONSISTENCY WITH THE GENERAL PLAN THAT WAS ROLLED BACK DUE TO THE REFERENDUM.

THAT'S RIGHT.

THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

OKAY.

WITH THAT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT? I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE CONTINUED ORDER OPOR OF OPERATIONS JUST WITH ALL OF THIS, BECAUSE FROM A LOT, JUST A GENERAL PERSPECTIVE, IT IS OBVIOUSLY CONFUSING TO A LAY PERSON AS TO WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING HERE.

JUST BECAUSE THINGS HAVE HAPPENED, THERE WERE, UH, LEGAL, I GUESS QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT SOMETHING COULD HAPPEN AT A PARTICULAR TIME.

AND THEN THE FALLOUT OF THAT THEN BECOMES, IT, IT LOOKS LIKE A, EVEN WITH THE COMMENTS THAT WERE RECEIVED ABOUT THIS MESSAGE THAT WE HAVE, WE'RE GIVEN, UM, PEOPLE ARE CON, UNDERSTANDABLY CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT IT EVEN IS THAT IS HAPPENING.

COMPLETELY UNDERSTANDABLE, BECAUSE IT IS A VERY CONFUSING LEGAL PROCESS THAT IT SEEMED LIKE SOMETHING HAD HAPPENED BUT WAS ROLLED BACK OR NEEDS TO BE ROLLED BACK IN ORDER TO BE LEGAL, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM.

UM, IS THERE LIKE A, I GUESS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC, IS THERE AN EVEN SIMPLER WAY TO PUT WHAT I JUST ATTEMPTED TO SAY, OR WHAT YOU ALSO SUCCINCTLY SAID, BUT POTENTIALLY EVEN? YEAH, I THINK THE REALLY BOILED DOWN VERSION IS THAT OUR GENERAL PLAN AND OUR ZONING ORDINANCE HAS TO BE CONSISTENT.

AND BECAUSE THE REFERENDUM SUSPENDED THE EFFECTIVENESS OF ONE, THEN THE OTHER ONE NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT INTO CONSISTENCY WITH THE SUSPENDED ONE.

IS THAT, THAT'S PROBABLY AS SIMPLE AS I COULD GET IT.

, THAT WAS GREAT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, GOOD.

.

YEAH, AND I, I THINK AS I'VE BEEN TRYING TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND THIS, I THINK IT'S THE SORT OF STARTING POINT YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE OPERATING UNDER IS THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE TWO DOCUMENTS IN PLAY.

WE'VE GOT THE GENERAL PLAN 2025, WHICH WAS WRITTEN IN 2006 AND OH SEVEN AND ADOPTED IN 2008, AND THEN WE HAVE THE IMPLEMENTING ZONING ORDINANCE OR IZO, WHICH WAS ADOPTED IN 2008 AS WELL, AND CONTAINS THE, THE ZONING REGULATIONS.

BUT WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE QUOTE UNQUOTE OVERLAY, BOTH DOCUMENTS WERE ADJUSTED TO SORT OF ACHIEVE THE OVERLAY ALSO MORE APPROPRIATELY CALLED THE DOWNTOWN HOUSING AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY OVERLAY.

SO IT'S, IT'S THAT TWO, TWO PIECES OF PAPER THAT HAVE HAD THE SAME NUMBER WRITTEN ON THEM AND NOW ONE'S DIFFERENT AND THEY GOTTA HAVE THE SAME NUMBER.

SO, UM, THAT'S SORT OF, I THINK AN IMPORTANT THING TO HIGHLIGHT FOR FOLKS WHO ARE TRYING TO WRAP THEIR HEADS AROUND THIS IS WE'VE GOT THE GENERAL PLAN AS IS CURRENTLY IN EFFECT, WHICH IS THE ONE THAT WAS PASSED IN 2008, AND THE HE IEO, WHICH MUST BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH EACH OTHER, CONSISTENCY WITH EACH OTHER.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I JUST APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE I THINK THE MORE TIME THAT WE REPEAT THESE SORTS OF THINGS, THE EASIER IT IS FOR EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING HERE.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

ABSOLUTELY.

WITH THAT, I THINK WE ARE READY TO MOVE INTO PUBLIC COMMENT.

I WILL OPEN PUBLIC COMMENT AND ANNOUNCE THAT THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.

PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON, AND IF YOU HAVEN'T DONE SO ALREADY, PLEASE FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD AND BRING IT TO THE CLERK.

I'LL ASK THE CLERK IF WE'VE RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS BEFORE THE MEETING.

WE RECEIVED ONE PUBLIC COMMENT, UH, BEFORE THE MEETING, AND IT IS POSTED OUTSIDE, UM, OF THE DOOR HERE IN THE BINDER.

THANK YOU.

AND HAVE WE GOTTEN ANY SPEAKER CARDS? WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY SPEAKER CARDS.

OKAY.

THEN WE'LL GO

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AHEAD AND CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSIONERS HERE FOR DISCUSSION, COMMENTS AND CONSIDERATION TOWARDS A MOTION TO VOTE.

ANY DISCUSSION POINTS WE WISH TO DISCUSS.

I AM GLAD THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO BOIL IT DOWN AND UNDERSTAND IT AND SEE HOW, UH, I'LL SAY AS NICELY AS I CAN, PERFUNCTORY THIS IS .

SO WITH THAT, I WILL REQUEST A MOTION TO VOTE.

I MOTION TO VOTE ON THE, IF I MAY, IT WOULD BE A, A MOTION TO, TO WHAT WE'RE ADVISING IS A MOTION TO RECOMMEND THAT TO RECOMMEND THE COUNCIL PASS THIS ORDINANCE.

THANK YOU.

RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY OF PETALUMA PLANNING COMMISSION TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER A RESOLUTION RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER, UH, 2,900 NCS CONCERNING THE DOWNTOWN HOUSING AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY OVERLAY TO RESTORE FLOOR AREA RATIO OR FAR TO 2.5 AND TABLE 5.2 OF SECTION 5.070 D AND AND THERE.

SECOND.

THANK YOU.

LET'S MOVE ON TO, UH, ROLL CALL.

VOTE PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER EBNER? UH, YES.

COMMISSIONER GOLDMAN? YES.

COMMISSIONER NEWELL RECUSED.

COMMISSIONER RASEN ABSENT.

COMMISSIONER HILT? YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLE.

AYE.

CHAIR MOSES? YES.

MOTION PASSED.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

SO THAT CLOSES OUT OUR MEETING ITEM SEVEN

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AND TAKES US INTO COMMISSION COMMENT.

I'LL INVITE COMMISSIONERS TO SHARE ANY COMMENTS THEY MAY HAVE, STARTING WITH COMMISSIONER HILT, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING.

I DON'T.

OKAY.

THIS WILL JUST FOR, UH, NEXT TIME, THIS IS WHERE THE LIAISONS TYPICALLY PRESENT OUT OF YOUR OTHER CCBS, JUST AS A HEADS UP.

UM, SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE TREE UPDATES.

, COMMISSIONER GOLDMAN, ANY COMMENTS? NO, I DON'T.

THANK YOU.

NONE.

THANK YOU.

UM, COUNCIL MEMBER.

UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING TO THE EARLY AUGUST MEETING ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY.

UM, AT THAT MEETING, WE ALSO, UH, STRENGTHENED OUR MOBILE HOME, UH, RENT STABILIZATION ORDINANCE.

UM, IT WAS A LONG NIGHT, BUT, UM, COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE DID THERE.

WE, UM, LIMITED THE, UH, UM, THE DURATION OF ARBITRATION TO ONE DAY.

UM, WE SET THE WAY THAT THEY, UH, CALCULATE, UM, RETURN ON INCOME.

WE IDENTIFIED WHAT THAT WAS BECAUSE WHAT WE WERE SEEING IN THEIR ALL THE ARBITRATIONS WAS THAT THEY WERE COMING FORWARD WITH LIKE FIVE DIFFERENT WAYS AND ARBITRATION WAS DRAGGING ON FOR DAYS.

AND, UM, THE MOBILE HOME PARK OWNERS HAVE PLENTY OF MONEY TO THROW AT THIS, BUT THE, UM, THE RESIDENTS DON'T.

AND SO WE JUST SORT OF LIKE BOUNDED THE, UM, THE ARBITRATION PROCESS WAS ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT WE DID IN THAT.

UM, BUT THAT PASSED WITH AN URGENCY ORDINANCE, SO IT APPLIED TO, UM, AN EXISTING ARBITRATION THAT'S GONNA PROBABLY SAVE THEM A GOOD AMOUNT OF MONEY.

UM, AND THEN WE TOOK THE FINAL STEP TO HOPEFULLY MOVE THE MERIDIAN AT THE NORTH PETALUMA STATION FORWARD.

SO, UM, EXCITING STUFF THERE.

UM, MY ROLE ON SONOMA CLEAN POWER, WE, UM, THIS MONTH WE EXTENDED AN OFFER TO CLEAR LAKE, UH, LAKEPORT AND, UH, LAKE COUNTY TO JOIN, UH, SONOMA CLEAN POWER.

SO, UM, WE'LL THEY HAVE NOW LIKE 90 DAYS TO DECIDE IF THEY WANNA JOIN.

UM, AND THAT'S ALL GREAT.

I'LL JUST DO A QUICK SAVE THE DATE.

UM, FOR THOSE INTERESTED IN THIS MEETING, YOU MIGHT ALSO BE INTERESTED IN THE BETTER PETALUMA FILM FESTIVAL, WHICH IS COMING UP ON SEPTEMBER 24TH, UM, AT THE MOVIE THEATER.

AND THERE ARE, I BELIEVE TICKETS ARE ON SALE.

UM, THIS IS A PROGRAM VIA PETALUMA URBAN CHAT.

AGAIN, THAT'S SEPTEMBER 24TH, THE BETTER PETALUMA FILM FESTIVAL.

COMING SOON, CLOSING OUT,

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UH, COMMISSION COMMENTS.

I BELIEVE WE ARE READY FOR STAFF COMMENT IF, UH, ANDREW HAS ANYTHING TO SHARE? SURE.

GREAT.

THANK YOU CHAIR.

UM, FIRST I WANTED TO REPORT WASHINGTON COMMONS PROJECT AT 8 25 EAST

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WASHINGTON, WHICH IS THE EMPTY PAROL GENERALLY ACROSS FROM THE FAIRGROUNDS ON EAST WASHINGTON.

UH, THAT IS AN SB 35 PROJECT.

UM, AND A WHILE AGO NOW, PLANNING COMMISSION HAD CONDUCTED A STUDY SESSION DESIGN REVIEW FOR THE PROJECT.

UM, IT IS IN PLANNING REVIEW NOW, THE BUILDING PERMIT, UM, FOR THE SB 35 PROJECT.

SO WE CAN ANTICIPATE THAT, UM, THAT WILL BE MOVING FORWARD TO CONSTRUCTION.

I CERTAINLY BY LATER THIS YEAR.

UM, THEN SEC, THE SECOND PROJECT THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, HAD REVIEWED LAST FALL WAS THE, UH, 5,400 OLD REDWOOD ANNEXATION.

UH, WE HAVE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE APPLICANT TEAM IN LCO, AND, UH, THEY ARE PREPARING TO SUBMIT THEIR ANNEXATION APPLICATION TO LCO.

SO THAT PROJECT IS MOVING FORWARD AS WELL.

IF YOU RECALL THAT THAT SITE IS, UH, COMMERCIALLY DEVELOPED.

UM, AND THE PRIMARY GOAL WITH THE ANNEXATION IS TO BE ABLE TO CONNECT TO CITY SERVICES, UM, TO FULLY TENANT THE PROJECT SITE AND MAXIMIZE, UH, ITS USE AS A COMMERCIAL SITE.

DO WE EXPECT THAT'LL COME ACROSS OUR DESK, OR NO? NO, THAT WON'T.

THAT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, WHAT WE DO DURING THE ANNEXATION PROCESS IS WE ACTUALLY GO THROUGH A PREZONING FOR ANNEXATION SO THAT WHEN THE ANNEXATION IS COMPLETED AND THE PROPERTY MOVES FROM THE COUNTY TO THE CITY, IT AUTOMATICALLY ASSUMES THE ZONING.

SO IT'S, UH, REALLY UP IN L COAST HANDS AT THIS POINT.

THEN, UM, LET'S SEE, THE TWO RAVINA PROJECT RAVINA APARTMENTS, UM, 100% AFFORDABLE PROJECT THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER WAS SB THREE 30 AND DENSITY BONUS.

UH, THAT PROJECT HAS BUILDING PERMITS, ENGINEERING PERMITS, FIRE PERMITS, ET CETERA, EITHER IN REVIEW OR ISSUED.

SO THEY HAVE, UH, BEGUN WORK ON, ON UH, CONSTRUCTION AT THAT SITE.

AND THEN, UM, SIG COMMONS, WHICH WAS A PROJECT THAT YOU REVIEWED RECENTLY, HAS SCHEDULED ITS NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING TO REVIEW ITS, UH, PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND VEHICLE MANAGEMENT PLANS, UM, AND DESIGN FOR OCTOBER 23RD.

SO GREAT TO SEE THAT THEY'RE MOVING FORWARD ON THAT PROJECT AS WELL.

THEN FINALLY, WE HAVE A FEW, UH, RECENT MILESTONES FROM THE GENERAL PLAN UPDATE PROJECT.

UM, IN JUNE, THE TEAM FINISHED A SERIES OF THREE LAND USE WORKSHOPS WITH CITY COUNCIL, UH, WHERE THEY OUTLINED COMMUNITY INPUT GPAC RECOMMENDATIONS FOR LAND USE ALTERNATIVES THAT WE'RE BUILDING UPON.

UM, THOSE PRESENTED IN THE LAND USE FRAMEWORK, THE COUNCIL PROVIDED ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK AND THAT'S INFORMING THE CURRENT EFFORT TO CREATE THE PREFERRED LAND USE MAP.

UM, ADDITIONALLY, THE CITY COUNCIL PROVIDED FEEDBACK ON THE DRAFT LAND USE STANDARDS TABLE, WHICH INCLUDED THE DIFFERENT LAND USE DESIGNATIONS SHOWN ON THE MAP, UM, AS WELL AS, UH, BASE ZONING STANDARDS SUCH AS DENSITY RANGES, MAX BUILDING HEIGHTS, AND FAR.

UM, IN ADDITION TO CREATING THE PREFERRED LAND USE MAP, THE GENERAL PLAN UPDATE TEAM IS WORKING ON A SERIES OF TECHNICAL ANALYSIS TO EVALUATE THE PREFERRED LAND USE PATTERN, INCLUDING GROWTH PROJECTIONS, TRANSPORTATION ANALYSIS, FISCAL ANALYSIS, AND A UTILITY ASSESSMENT.

UM, THESE STUDIES WILL ACCOMPANY THE PREFERRED LAND USE MAP WHEN IT'S BROUGHT BACK BEFORE PLANNING COMMISSION GPAC, AND THEN ULTIMATELY THE, UH, CITY COUNCIL.

ALL OF THAT WORK HAS, HAS ALLOWED THE PROJECT TO ACHIEVE ANOTHER MAJOR MILESTONE, WHICH WAS THE KICKOFF OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW PROCESS.

UH, THE PROJECT RELEASED THE NOTICE OF A PREPARATION ON AUGUST 8TH AND HELD A SCOPING MEETING ON AUGUST, UH, 21ST, AND THE PUBLIC SCOPING THEN WILL CONCLUDE ON, UH, SEPTEMBER 8TH.

UM, THE TEAM DOES ANTICIPATE COMING BACK BEFORE PLANNING COMMISSION ON NOVEMBER 18TH, UH, TO REPORT OUT ON THE PREFERRED LAND USE MAP AND THE ASSOCIATED TECHNICAL ANALYSIS THAT THEY'RE COMPLETING.

THEN TO, UH, TO WRAP UP MY COMMENTS THIS EVENING, I DO WANT TO SHARE THAT, UH, IT, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, IT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE, UH, WE WILL HAVE A MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 9TH.

UH, WE, WE HAD ANTICIPATED A PUBLIC HEARING ON SEPTEMBER 9TH, UM, FOR THE, THE TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE, BUT WE'VE SHIFTED GEARS A BIT AND WE ARE BRINGING THAT BACK TO, UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A STUDY SESSION ON SEPTEMBER 23RD, UM, TO GAIN SOME FURTHER REFINEMENT ON THE ORDINANCE BEFORE IT COMES FORWARD TO YOU FOR REVIEW AT A PUBLIC HEARING.

UM, ALSO ON SEPTEMBER 23RD, WE DO HAVE, UH, SCHEDULED THE PETALUMA PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY, UM, PROJECT FOUR, ITS DISCRETIONARY REVIEW.

AND THEN, UH, WE ARE PLANNING TO MEET ON OCTOBER 14TH, WE HAVE

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TWO AGENDA ITEMS. UM, ONE WOULD BE THE A DU ORDINANCE UPDATE, UH, STUDY SESSION, AND THEN ANOTHER STUDY SESSION ON THE ZONING CODE UPDATE, UH, DRAFT SCOPE.

SO I'LL LOOK AND THEN ON OCTOBER 28TH, LOOKING FORWARD TO, UM, THE, UH, SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE GALLAGHER SENIOR LIVING PROJECT AT 1221 PETALUMA BOULEVARD NORTH.

SO, UM, WE'LL GIVE A A BIT OF A BREAK ON SEPTEMBER 9TH, BUT THEN WE'LL BE FULL ON, UH, LIKELY THROUGH NOVEMBER.

OKAY? OKAY.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE CHAIR.

EXCELLENT.

ANY FINAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? SEEING NONE, WE WILL ADJOURN AT 7 58.

THANKS, EVERYONE.