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[CALL TO ORDER]
GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PETALUMA CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION FOR THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2025.UM, CAN WE DO A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? AND REALLY QUICK, MORGAN, BEFORE YOU DO THE ROLL CALL, I WANTED TO, UH, NOTE FOR THE RECORD, UM, I DON'T BELIEVE I SENT AN EMAIL AROUND, UM, BUT ANN EDM MINSTER HAS RESIGNED HER POSITION AS A COMMISSIONER AND JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, SHE WON'T BE CALLED IN THE ROLL CALL TODAY, BUT ALSO JUST FOR THE RECORD, VERY GRATEFUL FOR HER SERVICE AND CONTRIBUTIONS FOR THE MANY YEARS SHE WAS ON THIS COMMISSION.
AND, UM, WISH HER THE BEST IN HER NEW ENDEAVORS.
SO, UM, DIDN'T, YEAH, IT, IT MAY HAVE CAUGHT SOME FOLKS OFF GUARD.
IT HAPPENED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO THAT SHE NOTIFIED US.
SO, UM, BETWEEN THE LAST MEETING AND THIS ONE, SHE TENDERED HER RESIGNATION.
UM, BAKER, ASHLEY, PRESENT EL CAMP HERE.
[PRESENTATIONS]
NOW WE CAN MOVE ON TO OUR COOL PETALUMA MONTHLY UPDATE.WE MISSED YOU LAST WEEK, LAST MONTH.
I'M NATASHA JULIANA WITH COOL PETALUMA.
AND HERE'S OUR UPDATE FOR SEPTEMBER.
WE'RE JUST GONNA DO A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHAT'S HAPPENED SO FAR THIS SUMMER.
SO SINCE JULY 1ST, THE BEGINNING OF THE FISCAL YEAR, WE'VE HAD NINE EVENTS ALREADY THIS SUMMER, WHICH IS KIND OF UNUSUAL FOR US.
'CAUSE SUMMER'S USUALLY KIND OF A LOW TIME WHERE EVERYBODY'S GONE.
BUT WE'VE, UM, HAD A LOT OF ACTIVITY.
WE'VE HAD 48 VOLUNTEERS INVOLVED AND 183 BENEFICIARIES, AND WE'VE SENT OUT 11 NEWSLETTERS TO OUR 2,384 SUBSCRIBERS.
AND THEN THERE'S THE CORNERSTONES, BUT THAT'S ALL YOU GUYS WILL, THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION WILL UNDERSTAND THAT.
UH, BUT JUST WANTED TO GIVE A BRIEF ANNOUNCEMENT THAT THIS MONDAY AT CITY COUNCIL CALLED PETALUMA, ALONG WITH OTHER, UH, MANY OTHER COMMUNITY GROUPS IN PETALUMA, WERE RECOGNIZED AS KEY PARTNERS AT THE CITY COUNCIL'S PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING, UM, NOVEMBER OR SEPTEMBER AS DISASTER PREPAREDNESS MONTH.
AND, UH, ALONG THAT SAME LINES, THIS SUMMER, WE ALSO HOSTED A CPR AND A ED TRAINING.
UNFORTUNATELY, IT WAS LIMITED TO EIGHT PEOPLE BY THE, UH, THE TEACHER OF THAT PROGRAM, BUT WE EASILY FILLED THAT UP AND, AND I'M SURE WE COULD DO MORE OF THOSE.
IT SEEMS TO BE VERY POPULAR IN THE COMMUNITY, AND THE MORE PEOPLE WHO ARE TRAINED OUT THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, UH, THE BETTER IT IS FOR ALL OF US.
WE ALSO DID, UM, A FOOD SHARE AT THE PETALUMA REGIONAL LIBRARY ON AUGUST 30TH.
WE HAD 20 CONTRIBUTORS, MOSTLY FROM THE COMMUNITY.
WE ALSO, UH, PETALUMA BOUNTY CONTRIBUTED SOME PRODUCE AS WELL.
THEY, THEY ENDED UP WITH 278 POUNDS OF DONATED FRESH FOOD.
AND 54 FAMILIES AND INDIVIDUALS CAME AND PICKED UP FOOD.
AND I HEAR FROM THE VOLUNTEER I, OUR, I, OUR VOLUNTEER.
EILEEN WAS THERE, AND ANNIE STEWART FROM OUR TEAM WERE THERE.
AND THEY SAID PEOPLE WERE JUST SO THRILLED AND, UM, HELPFUL AND IT WAS VERY POSITIVE EXPERIENCE.
WE ALSO HAD VOLUNTEERS AT THE PET PETALUMA MUSIC FESTIVAL HELPING RECOLOGY AND BLUE ZONES WITH THEIR ZERO WASTE MISSION.
AND I'VE HEARD THAT THE REPORTS OUT FROM THAT WERE THAT THIS YEAR'S, UH, FESTIVAL PRODUCED MUCH LESS TRASH.
THE RECYCLING COMPOST WAS MUCH BETTER, UH, SORTED.
AND THEY HAD MORE PROGRAMS WITH THE VENDORS TO REDUCE THE WASTE TO BEGIN WITH.
SO IT WAS MUCH EASIER, UH, SORTING TASK THIS YEAR.
WE ALSO HAD A COLUMN IN THE ARGUS COURIER ABOUT TRANSPORTATION, AND SOMEBODY IMMEDIATELY SAW IT IN THE NEWSPAPER AND THANKED US FOR IT.
UH, QUOTING THESE TWO, UH, THE, THE END PASSAGE, I'M JUST GONNA READ IT OUT LOUD FOR THE AUDIENCE.
AT HOME, WHEN WE CHOOSE A BUS, TRAIN, WALK, OR A BIKE, WE'VE KEPT ONE MORE CAR OFF THE ROAD AND OUT OF THE PARKING SPACE.
THIS IS HOW WE ACTIVELY HELP REDUCE OUR LOCAL POLLUTION EVERY DAY, WHILE EASING CONGESTION ALL ACROSS TOWN.
IF YOU CAN MAKE THE SWITCH YOURSELF, AT LEAST IF YOU CAN'T MAKE THE SWITCH YOURSELF, AT LEAST HELP MAKE IT EASIER FOR OTHERS BY SUPPORTING THE EXPANSION OF SAFER AND CLEANER MODES OF MOBILITY, FROM BIKE LANES TO SMART TRAINS AND BEYOND.
ALONG THAT TRANSPORTATION LINE, WE ALSO DID A LOT OF WORK WITH OUR COOL BUSINESS COLLECTIVE
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THAT WE LAUNCHED LAST SPRING.THE TRANSPORTATION TOPIC WAS BROUGHT UP.
WE WERE NOT, WE PLAYED A GAME WHERE WE WERE NOT ALLOWED TO SAY THE WORD PARKING, SO WE COULD STEER THE CONVERSATION TOWARDS, UH, OTHER MODES OF TRANSPORTATION.
WE CREATED A POSTCARD FOR DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES TO HAVE, THEY HAD REQUESTED SOMETHING BECAUSE THEY GET A LOT OF QUESTIONS FROM CUSTOMERS, ESPECIALLY VISITORS, UH, ABOUT HOW TO GET ALONG AROUND WITHOUT A CAR.
AND SO WE'VE CREATED A POSTCARD AND A WEBPAGE AND RESOURCES FOR THE BUSINESSES TO USE ON THEIR WEBSITES AND FOR THEIR CUSTOMERS.
UH, THE COOL BUSINESS IS MEETING EVERY SECOND TUESDAY.
IF THERE ARE ANY BUSINESS LEADERS, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE THE BUSINESS OWNER OR THE BUILDING OWNER.
JUST, UM, LOCAL BUSINESSES ARE INTERESTED.
IN JULY, WE DID A BUSINESS CRAWL WHERE WE GOT TO SEE BEHIND THE SCENES OF, UH, THE SUSTAINABILITY PRACTICES OF THREE LOCAL BUSINESSES.
IN AUGUST, WE TALKED ABOUT TRANSPORTATION.
AND JUST THIS WEEK WE HAD SONOMA CLEAN POWER COME TALK ABOUT EVERGREEN TO THE BUSINESSES AND A NEW FOR THE COOL BUSINESS THAT HAS HAPPENED OVER THE SUMMER.
WE'VE CREATED THE RE A RESOURCE WEBSITE.
SO AT EACH OF THESE MEETINGS, WE ARE DISTRIBUTING RESOURCES.
AND SO INSTEAD OF HAVING THOSE JUST DISAPPEAR OR NOT BE AVAILABLE TO PEOPLE WHO COULD NOT ATTEND, WE'VE STARTED CREATING WEB PAGES FOR EACH OF THOSE.
AND THE PREPARE FOR EMERGENCIES AND THE TRANSPORTATION ONE HAVE BEEN FILLED UP WITH WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE MEETING.
SO THERE'S ALL KINDS OF RESOURCES THERE FOR BUSINESSES ON OUR WEBSITE.
WE'VE ALSO CREATED A NEW DIRECTORY OF THE OFFICIAL COOL BUSINESS MEMBERS, AND THEY HAVE, UM, GIVEN US, UH, INFORMATION ABOUT THEIR SUSTAINABILITY PRACTICES THAT WE'VE INCLUDED THERE.
THEY'VE ALSO BEEN ADDING, UH, SUSTAINABILITY PRACTICES TO THEIR OWN WEBSITES WITH UNDER THE LABEL COOL BUSINESS PRACTICES.
UM, AND, UH, OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE THEM ALL ADD THE TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS TO THEIR WEBSITES AS WELL.
OUR BOOK CLUB IS ALIVE AND WELL.
UH, WE JUST FINISHED ABUNDANCE AND THEN, AND THE CALL TO ACTION.
WE DID TWO MEETINGS ON ABUNDANCE 'CAUSE IT WAS A BIG BOOK.
BUT OUR CALL TO ACTION WAS TO GO TO PETALUMA CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS AND CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION MEETINGS AND OTHER COMMITTEE AND COMMISSION MEETINGS AND SAY, YES, I SUPPORT THIS CLIMATE ACTION BECAUSE I KNOW THAT, UH, WE ALL KNOW THAT IT'S, YOU'RE MORE LIKELY TO SHOW UP IF YOU ARE OPPOSED TO SOMETHING RATHER THAN IN FAVOR.
AND SO, TO TRY AND GET SUPPORT FOR ALL THE CREATE CLIMATE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE THROUGH THE CITY, GET MORE PEOPLE SHOWING UP AND SHOWING THAT SUPPORT.
AND OUR NEXT BOOK CLUB IS A BOOK IS CALLED, WE ARE EATING THE EARTH ABOUT OUR FOOD SYSTEMS. AND THAT WILL BE ON OCTOBER 7TH.
OTHER UPCOMING EVENTS INCLUDE A WORKSHOP WHERE WE'RE GONNA HAVE A BAY RUN GUEST SPEAKER TALKING ABOUT HOME ENERGY UPGRADES MADE EASIER.
THAT WILL BE TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 23RD AT CROOKED GOAT.
OUR CLIMATE ROUNDTABLE FOR THE COMMUNITY IS COMING UP ON THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 25TH.
WE HAVE ANOTHER FOOD SHARE ON THE 27TH.
WE'RE ALSO DOING A LAFFERTY RANCH DOCENT LED FIELD TRIP ON SEPTEMBER 28TH, THE BOOK CLUB I JUST MENTIONED.
AND OUR COOL BUSINESS WILL BE, UM, WHICH I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY TOO, WHEN ALL THOSE CAN BE FOUND ON OUR WEBSITE UNDER THE EVENTS SECTION.
AND THEN IN EXCITING NEWS, WE, THANKS TO THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, WE HAVE BECOME THE RECIPIENTS OF TWO FULL-TIME AMERICORPS FELLOWS FOR 11 MONTHS, STARTING IN LATE OCTOBER.
THAT'S GONNA GREATLY, UH, INCREASE OUR CAPACITY TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY.
AND IF YOU KNOW ANYONE WHO MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN THOSE POSITIONS, PLEASE SEND THEM.
NOW IT'S A, A ROLLING, UM, APPLICATION, SO AS SOON AS WE FILL THE SPOTS, IT'LL BE CLOSED.
BUT OVER THE NEXT FEW WEEKS, THE APPLICATION IS OPEN AND IT CAN BE FOUND ON THAT.
UH, IF YOU JUST EVEN GOOGLE AMERICORPS NEIGHBOR TO NEIGHBOR IS WHAT IT'S CALLED, THE NEIGHBOR TO NEIGHBOR FELLOWSHIP, THE APPLICATION WILL BE THERE.
SO HOPE, UH, I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO SUBSCRIBE TO OUR NEWSLETTER IF YOU HAVE NOT ALREADY, BECAUSE WE SEND OUT WEEKLY INFORMATION AND LOCAL TOPICS AND INSPIRING INSPIRATION FROM AROUND THE WORLD.
OKAY, NOW IT'S TIME FOR GENERAL
[GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT]
PUBLIC COMMENT.DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON ITEMS OF PUBLIC INTEREST THAT ARE WITHIN THE COMMISSION'S SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION, AND ARE NOT LISTED ON THE CURRENT AGENDA.
PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO UP TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON.
DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF PERSONS WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, TIME WILL BE ALLOCATED IN EQUAL SHARES, TOTALING NO MORE THAN 20 MINUTES SUBJECT TO THE COUNCIL'S DISCRETION.
DO WE HAVE, SO WE RECEIVED TWO PRIOR PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT ARE POSTED ONLINE, AND THEN TODAY WE HAVE BRUCE HAGEN, WHO HAS PASSED ME HIS SPEAKER CARD.
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THANKS EVERYONE.I'M REPRESENTING SAFE STREETS PETALUMA, AND I'M HERE TO ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT AS INDIVIDUALS, UH, FOR A TREE PARKING PILOT PROJECT AS PART OF THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
AND I WANT TO TELL YOU THAT I DID THE SAME PROCESS WITH PBAC LAST MONTH.
UH, THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE TIME OR THE WILLINGNESS TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA, SO I JUST CONTACTED INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS AND ASKED THEM FOR THEIR OWN PERSONAL, AND I'LL BE DOING THE SAME WITH YOU.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UM, YOU CAN SEE ME AFTERWARDS OR JUST GET IN TOUCH.
UH, I WANTED TO SHOW YOU THIS MAP.
THE CITY COUNCIL IS GOING TO BE MAKING THE DECISION ON THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN NEXT MONDAY.
AND SOME OF US HAVE BEEN WAITING A LONG TIME FOR THIS.
AND THESE ORANGE LINES HERE ARE WHAT ARE REFERRED TO AS NEIGHBORHOOD GREENWAYS.
SO YOU MAY RECALL 2008 PLAN HAD A NEIGHBORHOOD, GREENWAY FOR FIFTH STREET, NEVER GOT BUILT.
BUT NOW FIFTH STREET HAS BEEN STARTED.
UH, THE IMPORTANT THINGS YOU CAN SEE AN AWFUL LOT OF, UH, GETTING AROUND TOWN WITHOUT A CAR IS DEPENDENT UPON THESE THINGS.
AND ONE OF THE IMPORTANT ITEMS ON THE CITY'S, UH, ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN, OH, IS MY CLOCK RUNNING? IT'S GOTTA START AT THREE
UM, THE, UH, IS REVISE THE DESIGN STANDARDS AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PUSHING THEM TO GET THAT PROCESS TO HAPPEN SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.
UH, AND BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA BE DOING PROJECTS ALL ALONG RESURFACING, REPAVING, AND WE WANT THEM TO GO IN WITH STRONG STANDARDS THAT ALLOW THINGS LIKE TREE PARKING AND SOME OF THE OTHER, UH, MORE RADICAL CONCEPTS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING, UH, WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH LONG TIME CONSUMING, UH, PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT PROCESSES.
THEY DON'T, THEY NEVER CHECKED WITH ME TO ASK ME WHAT KIND OF GRAVEL, UH, OR SAND THEY USED WHEN THEY RESURFACED MY STREET.
THEY JUST PUT A CARD OUT AND THEY DID IT.
SO THE, THE TREE PARKING, IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY HEARD THIS FROM ME AND YOU'VE HAD PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITIES, PROBABLY, UH,
AND, UM, GETTING KIDS INVOLVED IN CLIMATE ACTION.
AND THEY CAN GET INVOLVED IN CLIMATE ACTION AFFECTING THOSE OTHER TWO THINGS.
THE WAY YOU DO IT IS YOU TAKE A STREET, ONE OF THESE NEIGHBORHOOD GREENWAYS, ST.
FRANCIS DRIVE, FOR INSTANCE, 36 FEET WIDE, START OFF, BE PAVING, UH, 18 FEET DOWN THE MIDDLE AND LEAVING ANOTHER, UH, 10 FEET ON EACH SIDE AS IS.
THERE'S NO NEED TO HAVE SLICK AND SMOOTH PARKING LANES, NOT WITH THE MONEY THAT IT COSTS.
FRANCIS DRIVE, BETWEEN THE OVERPASS AND THE, UH, THE BIKE, PEDESTRIAN PASS AND ME WALK, UH, IF THEY JUST DO THE SLURRY SEAL, THAT'S $50,000.
IF THEY HAD TO RESURFACE THE ASPHALT, THAT'D BE HALF A MILLION DOLLARS.
AND YOU LOOK AT THIS MAP AND THINK OF HOW MUCH MONEY COULD BE SAVED FOR WHATEVER, BUT A TINY FRACTION OF THAT WHATEVER COULD BE DEVOTED TOWARDS BRINGING SCHOOL KIDS IN AND TAKING, UH, UNDERUTILIZED SEGMENTS OF THE PARKING LANES.
LIKE YOU HAVE TWO DRIVEWAYS AND YOU HAVE TWO AND A THIRD PARKING SPACES.
SO YOU TAKE A THIRD OF A PARKING SPACE IN THE MIDDLE, AND YOU EXTEND IT ALL THE WAY OUT.
YOU MAKE A PINCH POINT ON THE STREET FROM BOTH SIDES, AND YOU PUT IN SOME BIG NATIVE CANOPY TREES.
YOU PUT IN A BENCH, YOU PUT IN A FOOD SHARING STAND, YOU PUT IN A NEIGHBORHOOD LIBRARY, IT NOW BECOMES A LITTLE FOCAL POINT FOR PEOPLE TO REENGAGE WITH THEIR STREETS.
ALL OF THIS WILL SLOW CARS DOWN.
YOU JUST CAN'T PUT SPEED BUMPS AND SIGNS OUT 'CAUSE THEY GO AROUND THEM OR THEY GO OVER THEM OR THROUGH THEM.
BUT IF YOU HAVE A STREET THAT'S WINDY WITH A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON, CARS WILL ONLY GO 10 OR 15 MILES AN HOUR.
AND THAT IT BECOMES SAFE FOR PEOPLE TO BE OUT THERE WITH THEIR KIDS ON THEIR BIKES, ON THEIR WAY TO SCHOOL.
SO THESE THINGS ARE ALL ELEMENTS.
I'M LOOKING FOR SUPPORT FROM YOU.
A PBAC HAS ALREADY PROVIDED THAT A NUMBER OF OTHER GROUPS.
I'M TALKING TO THE CITY, UH, THE SCHOOL BOARD NEXT WEEK, AND ULTIMATELY WE CAN GET OUT THERE, MAYBE GET SOME FUNDS FOR THIS.
AND LAST OF ALL IS THE CURRICULUM.
I'M WORKING WITH THOSE FOLKS ON INTEGRATING ALL THIS INTO THEIR ECO CURRICULUM.
UM, AND THAT'S IT, RIGHT? FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
ITEM IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES.UM, ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE MINUTES FROM THE COMMISSION? I HAVE A QUESTION ON THIS.
UM, SO THE PUBLIC, THERE WAS A PUBLIC COMMENT, UH, FROM SUSAN KIRKS REGARDING ATTACHING SOME COMMENT TO THE JULY AGENDA.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD COMMENT ON THAT AND IF THAT IS
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YEAH, THEY'VE BEEN ATTACHED SINCE, UH, WHAT WAS IT, JULY 27TH, 21ST.SO THEY'VE, THEY'VE BEEN THERE.
UM, WE'RE NOT SURE WHAT THE CONFUSION IS ON IT, BUT IT, IT'S, IT'S THERE, IT'S BEEN THERE.
AND THERE WAS ANOTHER COMMENT IN GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY, UM, REAFFIRMING THOSE COMMENTS.
SO IT'S, I THINK IT'S BEEN OUT THERE A LOT.
UM, MS. KIRKS, IF YOU'RE LISTENING, WE ARE DILIGENTLY MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE, UH, HEARING YOU AND LISTENING TO YOU.
ANY OTHER COMMENT ON THE MINUTES? OKAY.
[PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION]
PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION.UM, TODAY WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PROGRESS REPORT ON THE CORNERSTONE ACTIONS WORK PLAN INTEGRATION AND THE ROLE OF THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION AD HOCS IN ADVANCING THE BLUEPRINT FOR CLIMATE ACTION.
UM, WHO IS PRESENTING? I'LL, I'LL START IT OFF AND THEN I'LL KICK IT OVER TO, TO DEB.
UM, THANK YOU CHAIR, ASHLEY AND COMMISSION MEMBERS.
UM, ANOTHER DISCUSSION ON AD HOCS.
UM, THERE IS BACKGROUND IN THERE ABOUT WHERE, WHERE WE'VE COME FROM TO GET TO THIS POINT.
UM, BUT I THINK EVERYBODY ON THE COMMISSION'S PRETTY FAMILIAR.
WE HAD THREE AD HOCS BEFORE, AND NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHETHER WE RECONSTITUTE THEM, CHANGING THEM INTO SOMETHING ELSE.
UM, AND I THINK THE LAST OPTION OF, YOU KNOW, JUST GET RID, GETTING RID OF THEM COMPLETELY IS NOT SOMETHING THE COMMISSION WANTS TO DO.
SINCE WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT ESTABLISHING TWO NEW ONES.
UM, WHAT I WANTED TO DO TO SET THE STAGE WAS, UM, AND IT'S DESCRIBED IN THE STAFF REPORT, UM, TRYING TO GET THE FOLKS THAT ARE TRYING TO HELP THE CITY ADVANCE OUR BLUEPRINT GOALS, WORKING TOGETHER IN TANDEM ON IT, AND MAKING SURE THAT THOSE SEPARATE PROCESSES OUT THERE.
AND, AND THE EXAMPLE IS CLIMATE ACTION PETALUMA.
UM, THEY'RE HAVING, UM, ROUND TABLE DISCUSSIONS AND THE, AND ESTABLISHING GROUPS THERE TO TALK ABOUT CLIMATE ISSUES.
AND OUR GOAL IS STAFF, BECAUSE WE, LAST MONTH WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW CAN YOU HELP US? LIKE, INSTEAD OF JUST GOING ON A SUBJECT, IT SOUNDS REALLY INTERESTING, BUT MAYBE KIND OF DOESN'T HELP US ESTABLISH OUR GOALS OR, OR ACCOMPLISH OUR GOALS AS MUCH.
SO WHAT WE, WHAT WE REALLY WANT TO AVOID IS MULTIPLE GROUPS WORKING TOGETHER ON CLIMATE ISSUES, SAYING, STAFF, YOU NEED TO DO THIS.
AND IT'S SPREADING US EVEN THINNER.
AND, UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE MAIN POINT OF THIS.
A LOT OF THE BACKGROUND IN THE STAFF REPORT TALKS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW THE DIFFERENT GROUPS ARE, WHAT, WHAT THEIR AREAS OF FOCUS ARE, UM, AND HOPEFULLY ALIGNING THAT WITH THESE AD HOCS THAT ARE ESTABLISHED.
UM, AS YOU'LL SEE FROM WHEN, WHEN DEB TAKES OVER, WE'VE MADE PROGRESS ON THE SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF THE, THE BLUEPRINT CORNERSTONE ACTIONS.
UM, SO THE, IT'S NOT A MATTER OF, HEY, STAFF, WE DON'T THINK YOU'RE, YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE REALLY IN A POSITION OF HOW DO WE PRIORITIZE OUR TIME SO THAT WE'RE GETTING MOST, THE MOST ACTION ON THESE THINGS.
I THINK WE, AS STAFF WOULD LOVE TO SAY, WE'VE COMPLETED ALL OF 'EM, AND, AND WE HAVE THE RESOURCES WE NEED TO DO ALL OF 'EM.
BUT, UM, IT'S, THESE ARE HUGE GOALS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND SOME OF THESE THINGS TAKE A LONG TIME.
SO IT'S REALLY JUST, I WANTED TO FRAME THE CONVERSATION WITH, UM, REALLY FOCUS ON DISCREET THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE TO ADVANCE THE, THE, THE BLUEPRINT ITEMS. UM, AND EVEN IF THOSE AD HOCS ARE ESTABLISHED AND YOU DON'T QUITE KNOW WHAT THAT, THAT IS, THAT HOPEFULLY WHEN YOU GO IN AND MEET AS AN AD HOC THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE TRYING TO GET DOWN TO WHAT'S THAT ONE THING WE CAN DO IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS TO ADVANCE THIS, THIS CORNERSTONE ACTION.
I THINK I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DEB NOW.
UM, SO I'M ACTUALLY NOT SURE
MY, MY THOUGHT WAS, UM, IF YOU WANTED TO GIVE A, LIKE, REALLY BROAD OVERVIEW OF THE PROGRESS ON THE CORNERSTONE ACTIONS TO DATE THE ATTACHMENT AND THE, THE DOCUMENT, AND THEN IF THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION HAS QUESTIONS ON THAT.
AND THEN WE'LL SWITCH TO THE AD HOC DISCUSSION.
UM, UH, MORGAN, ARE YOU ABLE TO PULL UP, UH, THE ATTACHMENT THAT, UM, WE'LL PULL THOSE UP TO JOEL.
WE CAN GO THROUGH THOSE IF YOU LIKE.
UM, OR IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL DO THAT ON, UM, ANY OF THE CORNERSTONE ACTIONS THAT ARE, WE, WE JUST STUCK TO THE 20 25, 26, UM, ACTIONS.
UM, AND SO I CAN, I CAN REVIEW ANY OF THOSE, UM, IF YOU LIKE.
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UM, I THINK THE KEY ONES, I DO HAVE ONE UPDATE, UH, AS IT RELATES TO THE TRANSPORTATION DEMAND MANAGEMENT POLICY.I DID MEET WITH, UM, S-C-T-C-A, UH, THIS MORNING ON THAT ONE AND LEARNED, UM, THAT THEY RECOMMEND THEIR OLD POLICY.
THAT'S, UM, IS THE ONE TO USE TO UPDATE FOR, BUT IT'S MOSTLY FOR, UH, NEW DEVELOPMENT IS WHAT THEIR POLICY, UH, IS ABOUT.
AND SO, UH, IF WE WANNA REVISE HOURS FOR EMPLOYERS, THE BIGGEST ISSUE THAT THEY HIGHLIGHTED IS ENFORCEMENT.
UM, REALLY HAVING THE STAFF TIME TO BE ABLE TO ENFORCE A PROGRAM, UH, THAT ISN'T FOR ON THE DEVELOPMENT SIDE OF IT, LIKE FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT.
UM, SHE HAD LOTS OF OTHER SUGGESTIONS FOR WAYS THAT, UH, WE COULD WORK WITH, UM, UH, BUSINESSES FOR OPT-IN PROGRAMS, UH, THAT CAN HELP EMPLOYEES, UH, TO CARPOOL, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO IT'S MORE, IT WAS MORE BEHAVIOR CHANGE PROGRAMS, AND IT WAS A POLICY WHICH WAS, UM, SHE AGREED SHE'D LOOK AROUND AND SEE IF SHE COULD FIND SOMETHING THAT COULD, UH, IF SHE KNEW OF ANYBODY THAT HAD A POLICY THAT WAS DIRECTED TOWARD EMPLOYEES, EMPLOYERS, UH, AT THIS POINT.
BUT IT'S, IT PRETTY MUCH IS THE SAME THING THAT SPEAKS TO A LOT OF OUR, OUR WORK.
IT'S, IT'S BEHAVIOR CHANGE THAT IS GONNA BE THE MOST EFFECTIVE THAT, UH, UH, POLICIES, UNLESS THERE'S A WAY TO ENFORCE THEM ARE A LITTLE BIT HARDER, ESPECIALLY FOR THIS ONE.
UM, AND, AND HER EXPERIENCE IN WORKING WITH THE COUNTY.
UM, SO THAT ONE'S WHY THAT ONE SAYS TBD.
UM, DO, DO YOU WANNA GO THROUGH ALL OF 'EM OR IF WE WANNA TALK ABOUT THAT? NO, I WAS JUST GONNA DO, I CAN IF YOU WANT.
UM, I MEAN THAT'S, THAT ONE'S NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART.
I KNOW THAT'S WHY UHHUH
LIKE THAT THE ENFORCEMENT IS NOT, UM, REALISTIC.
YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S AN INTERESTING OBSERVATION THAT LIKE AN OPT-IN PROGRAM ISN'T A POLICY, I GUESS.
AND TO ME THAT'S LIKE, IF WE COULD REVISE OUR POLICY TO HAVE SOME OPT-IN ELEMENTS, THAT'S AT LEAST WHAT I THINK IS ACHIEVABLE.
UM, YOU KNOW, IN THE AD HOC WORK WE DID DO TALKING ABOUT THIS, UM, WITH ANN BAKER AND OTHERS, IT WAS MORE ABOUT HOW DO WE, HOW DO, HOW DO WE CREATE A USABLE MENU OF TDM OPTIONS THAT LARGER EMPLOYERS ARE REQUIRED TO SHARE? I GUESS REQUIRED IS THE HARD IS THE WORD THAT THAT IS THE PIECE THAT, THAT SHE SAYS, BUT LIKE REQUIRED TO SHARE IS, YOU KNOW, AND THEN ENFORCEMENT OF LIKE SHARING AND FLYER IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THOUGH, YOU KNOW, AND THEN RELATED TO THAT IS JUST THE INVENTORY OF LIKE, THE HIGHEST TDM EMPLOYERS OR SPACES.
SO THIS COULD BE AN AD HOC IS REALLY, UM, THAT'S WHY THAT ONE'S, THAT'S WHY I BRING THAT ONE TO YOU IS I, I TALKED WITH THE PERSON WHO WROTE THE COUNTY'S YEAH.
UH, AND THAT'S WHERE SHE HAS SOME REAL DIRECT FEEDBACK ABOUT POLICIES.
AND IT, IT WOULD MAKE A GREAT AD HOC IF YOU, UH, AND, AND IT STILL IS ONE TO BE DONE BY 2026.
AND SO THAT'S WHY THAT ONE HAD TB TDB ON.
THIS IS MY OTHER, I, I SHARED WITH HER.
IT WAS MY FAVORITE TOPIC AS WELL.
UM, ANY APPETITE AMONG THIS GROUP FOR THAT? OKAY.
THAT'S A, I'LL TAKE THAT AS A MAYBE
A LITTLE BIT MORE ON, ON THE, UH, KINDA THE RESPONSE YOU GOT.
UM, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE IT, IT STRIKES ME THAT WHAT EMPLOYER, THEY'VE GOT SO MUCH GOING ON.
YOU KNOW, THAT THEY'RE, THEY'VE GOT PAYROLL AND THE HEALTHCARE AND ALL, AND THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY KIND OF DO THEIR WORK.
SO THIS IS KIND OF AN ADD-IN BURDEN.
AND, UM, FOR ME, I KIND OF WONDER IF THIS IS IN A BIT OF A RUB GOLDBERG MACHINE, WHERE WE'RE LIKE, WELL, BECAUSE WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE GOOD DENSITY IN PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AND BIKE ROUTES, WE'RE GONNA MAKE AN EMPLOYER HAVE TO FIGURE OUT FOR THEMSELVES HOW TO, HOW TO GET PEOPLE TO NOT DRIVE.
SO THAT, THAT'S WHAT I WONDER WITH, WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
IS THERE AN EXAMPLE OF HOW TO MAKE THIS WORK? UM, THAT I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S, THERE'S PROBABLY PROGRAMS OUT THERE THAT I'M NOT AWARE OF.
THAT'S EXACTLY, THAT'S WHY I SAY IT'S BEHAVIOR CHANGE.
IT'S REALLY, IT'S PROGRAMS TO OFFER IT'S, UM, PRE-TAX COMMUTER BENEFITS AND IT HELPS THEM, UM, NOT HAVE TO DO ADDITIONAL PAYROLL TAXES.
LIKE IT'S PROGRAMS TO BE ABLE TO OFFER.
AND IT REALLY DOES SPEAK TO THE COOL PETALUMA MODEL OF THE COOL BIZ.
I, I ACTUALLY WORKED ON THE, IT'S INTERESTING, I WORKED ON THIS IN, BACK IN 2008, UH, WHEN I ACTUALLY WORKED IN TRANSPORTATION PLANNING, AND I HATE TO SAY IT, BUT WE TRIED ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT STUFF, UH, WITH DIFFERENT
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EMPLOYERS CARPOOLING PROGRAMS WHERE WE WOULD LIKE VOLUNTEER TO COME IN AND HELP MATCH PEOPLE.WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING IS PEOPLE GO, WELL, YEAH, BUT I GOTTA GO PICK UP MY KID AFTER FOR SOCCER PRACTICE.
WELL, I GOTTA GO EARLY FOR THIS, SO I CAN'T REALLY CARPOOL.
WELL, WELL, WELL, AND WHAT YOU END UP FINDING IS THAT PROGRAMS ARE A BANDAID ON WHAT THE ACTUAL PROBLEM IS.
AND THE PROBLEM IS THAT PEOPLE GET AROUND BY CAR.
IF IT'S THE MOST CONVENIENT WAY TO GET AROUND, THEY'RE JUST GONNA DO IT.
AND SO I WOULD ACTUALLY, I VERY HUMBLY RECOMMEND SCRAPPING THAT AND JUST WORK ON GETTING OUR TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM IN A WAY THAT, THAT PEOPLE ARE GONNA WANT TO BIKE AND USE THE TRAIN AND WALK, RIGHT.
LIKE IF THAT, THAT'S WHAT WILL ACTUALLY SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
UM, AND YEAH, SO I KNOW IT'S A BIT BIT BOLD, BUT I WOULD SAY IF, IF YOU'RE NOT GETTING TRACTION ON THIS, THEN WE SHOULD SCRAP IT.
I LOVE THIS DISCUSSION AND I, BUT I JUST WANT THE STAFF TO BE ABLE TO FINISH THE PRESENTATION BEFORE WE GET INVOLVED BECAUSE WE DO HAVE, WE DO GET TO CONVERSE.
UM, WELL, AND THAT'S, BUT I THINK IT, IT, I MEAN, TO BE HONEST, IT, IT FEELS LIKE THIS IS THE, THERE'S NO PRESENTATION.
IT'S MORE OF YOU GUYS ASK ME QUESTIONS OF I TELL YOU WHAT'S UNDERWAY AND WHAT'S NOT.
UM, AND THAT, I THINK THAT'S A VALID POINT ABOUT THE TDM POLICY OF WAYS THAT ALL THOSE, THAT IS BEING DONE A LOT THROUGH ALL THE OTHER CORNERSTONES, UM, THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDERWAY, WHICH IS, UH, OUR TRANSIT INCREASING OUR TRANSIT.
UH, THERE'S 15 MINUTE HEADWAYS NOW, UM, UH, DURING, UM, PEAK HOURS ON, UH, ON THE MAJOR ROUTES.
UM, OUR ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN IS GETTING, UM, COMING TO CITY COUNCIL ON MONDAY.
SO ALL THOSE THINGS ARE HAPPENING SIMULTANEOUSLY, BUT IT DOES HAPPEN TO BE A CORNERSTONE THAT, UM, IS WHY I BRING THIS ONE FORTH IS ONE TO CONSIDER WITH THOSE FACTORS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
UH, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THE PERSON AT THE COUNTY SAID.
WE LIVE IN A SUBURBAN COMMUNITY.
IT'S A, IT'S A DIFFERENT EQUATION.
UH, AND THERE ARE PROGRAMS THAT CAN HELP BUSINESSES THAT WANT TO PARTICIPATE.
LIKE THAT'S, IT'S THE SAME THING WITH THE PUBLIC, RIGHT? IS WE, WE'RE NOT, WE, WE CAN'T ALWAYS GO COME WITH A STICK.
WE HAVE TO COME WITH SOLUTIONS AND PUTTING TOGETHER A LIST OF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR BUSINESSES THAT ARE INTERESTED TO HAVE PRE-TAX TO DO CARPOOLING TO EVEN KNOW.
I MEAN, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT COOL PETALUMA DID AT THE, OR THE COOL BIZ, UM, DID, WAS HIGHLIGHT LUMA GO AND RIDING BIKES AND THE BIKE SHARE AND THOSE THINGS THAT IS TDM IN ACTION.
UM, AND SO IT'S WHETHER, WHETHER WE WANT TO REALLY CONSIDER THAT THE WAY THAT POLICY, THAT WAY THAT CORNERSTONE IS WRITTEN, IT IS TO RIDE A POLICY.
AND THAT IS WHERE SHE'S OFFER, YOU KNOW, DANA'S OFFERING TO DO SOME MORE HOMEWORK TO SEE IF THERE ARE SOME, IT'S JUST A MATTER, KEEP SAYING, EVERYONE SAYS TD UP WHAT? TRANSPORTATION DEMAND MANAGEMENT
IT'S A PLAN THAT IT, THAT, UM, UH, IN THE DEVELOPMENT SIDE, A A NEW CONSTRUCTION IS REQUIRED TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO, UH, BARK BIKE PARKING, BIKE CHARGING IN THE NEW FORMS OF IT.
UM, OFFERING A NEW BUS, THE BUSINESS' PRE-TAX, UM, INCENTIVES TO, UM, COMMUTER BENEFITS SO THAT THEY CAN RIDE THE SMART TRAIN, UH, AT A, UH, DISCOUNTED RATE.
BIKE SHARE OFFERING, BIKE SHARE PROGRAMS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
UH, WELL, I'LL JUST, IF I COULD STEP IN JUST FOR A SECOND HERE.
UM, I LIKE WHAT WAS BOTH SAID.
UM, SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE, BUT MAYBE A LITTLE OVER THE TOP FOR, UM, REQUIRING, DEMANDING, EXPECTING, UM, BUT VOLUNTARY.
UM, BUT WE DO HAVE, THERE'S, THERE'S TWO THINGS WE AS A CITY CAN DO.
UH, WE, WE DO HAVE A, UM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM BEING FORMED.
AND THIS COULD BE PART OF THEIR FUNCTIONALITY IS TO SUPPORT THAT.
PART OF IT IS, IS FOR GETTING MORE EMPLOYEES IN PLACE.
SO IT COULD BE A PART OF THE TEAMS HERE, THAT TEAM AND OTHER TEAMS HERE IN THE CITY TO HELP SUPPORT THIS.
SO AS OUR POLICY, AS THE CITY IS, WE WILL HAVE OUR STAFF SUPPORT THESE AT, AT WHATEVER OPPORTUNITY IS.
AND IF THERE IS ANY, UH, UH, SMALL FUND THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE TO SUPPORT, LET'S SAY IF SOMEONE WANTS TO PUT TOGETHER A, A LOCAL PROGRAM FOR THEIR BUSINESS, THERE'S A SMALL LITTLE GRANT FUND IN OUR BUDGET THAT THEY COULD TAP INTO TO MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN, WHETHER IT BE, UH, WHATEVER IT IS, OR EVEN JUST HAVE A, AN EVENT OR SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD PROVIDE, PROVIDE A BUDGET.
IF THERE'S NO BUDGET, THEN, THEN WE JUST GO WITH TOTAL VOLUNTEER.
UM, BUT THAT WAS TO BE A COUPLE WAYS THE CITY COULD PARTICIPATE AND SUPPORT LITTLE CARROTS NOT STICKS.
SO WE WANT CARROTS, UM, ON THIS ISSUE, BUT WE NEED TO LIST THE CARROTS AND
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SAY WHAT NOT JUST, OH, SOMEWHERE OUT THERE, THERE, THERE'S HELP.WE NEED TO BE MORE SPECIFIC IN OUR CARROTS YES.
AND SO, SO ALL OF THESE, UM, PHILOSO PHILOSOPHICAL TYPE THINGS AND DESIRES AND, AND WHAT WE WANT, WE NEED TO ADD, WHAT IS IT AS A CITY WE'RE GOING TO DO TO HELP SUPPORT WHO IS GOING TO BE PART, WHO TO COME TO, TO GET THAT SUPPORT? OR IS THERE AN ASSIGNMENT SOMEWHERE? IS THERE A BUDGET? IS THERE PEOPLE TIME, IS THERE STAFF TIME TO DO THESE THINGS AS WELL? SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THING THAT'S MISSING THROUGHOUT.
SO IF WE THINK ABOUT THAT AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS, WELL, SO IN THIS CASE THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDERWAY, UH, WORKING WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO GET A TOP 10 THINGS THAT BUSINESSES CAN DO AS A SHEET, AS THEY'RE GOING OUT AND AS, UH, UH, THE COUNCILMAN MEN MENTIONED THEY'RE GONNA BE DOING AN EMPHASIS ON, UH, BUSINESS RETENTION ESSENTIALLY.
AND SO THEY, UH, TO OUR BUSINESSES GOING OUT AND JUST MAKING SURE EVERYONE, I'M, I'M NOT SURE IF I'M SPEAKING THE RIGHT TECHNICAL TERMS, UH, AROUND, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BUT, UH, WHAT WE'VE OFFERED TO DO IS PUT TOGETHER A SHEET TO SAY, HEY, HERE ARE THE THINGS YOU CAN DO, LIKENO, CLEAN POWER, AND THEN THEY CAN HELP YOU REDUCE YOUR ENERGY COSTS.
'CAUSE IT'S ACTUALLY CHEAPER TO BE SIGNED UP THROUGH SNOW CLEAN POWER THAN PG AND E AND, YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE DIFFERENT TYPES OF THINGS ARE THE IT NEEDS TO BE DELIVERED IN ONE PACK.
IT'S PART OF THEIR CONCIERGE PROGRAM.
IT'S JUST THAT WE'RE GONNA MAKE IT JUST A ONE SHEETER AND THEN IF THEY WANT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, THEY'LL BE PASSED, UM, TO OUR TEAM.
UH, AND OR THE COOL BIZ PROGRAM IS THE OTHER THING THAT WE'VE BEEN, UH, WANTED START REALLY HAVING MORE BUSINESSES PARTICIPATE IN THAT.
SO ON THESE CORNERSTONES, DO WE WANT ANY, ANY BIT MORE PARTICULAR ABOUT HOW, UM, ANYTHING'S GOING TO BE DONE HERE ON ANY OF THESE? OR IS JUST THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND DO? THE ONES THAT YEAH.
SO THIS IS JUST INFORMATIONAL SO THAT IT'S, IT HELPS YOU MAKE A DECISION ON WHAT AD HOCS MM-HMM
SO WE'RE NOT LIKE LOOKING TO REVISE THESE CORNERSTONES OR SWAP 'EM OUT OR CHANGE DATES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT AT THIS MEETING.
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO PROVIDE CONTEXT FOR, FOR YOUR DISCUSSION.
UM, THE ONE THING I DID WANNA SAY IS, UH, THE COUNCIL MEMBER SHRIVES MENTIONED WHAT CITY STAFF CAN DO IN ADDITION TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PERSPECTIVE.
WE CAN ALSO TRY TO HIT IT FROM THE COMMUNICATION STANDPOINT AS WELL.
'CAUSE I KNOW I'VE SEEN SOME OF YOU OUT ON THE TRAILS ON RIDING YOUR BIKES, AND WE HAVE AN AMAZING, LIKE, FOR IF YOU NEED TO GET TO THE EAST SIDE, THE LYNCH CREEK TRAIL IS AMAZING.
LIKE IT'S FUN,
AND, AND IT'S JUST LIKE WHAT PEOPLE SAY ABOUT GETTING PEOPLE TO CONVERT FROM INTERNAL COMBUSTION VEHICLES TO EV EVS IS TO ACTUALLY GO OUT THERE AND TRY IT.
UM, SO ONE THING WE CAN DO FROM A COMMUNICATIONS STANDPOINT IS REALLY HIGHLIGHT HOW FUN IT IS TO DO THAT.
LIKE, IT'S NOT A CHORE TO GO THERE.
IT'S LIKE, I I, I GET TO RIDE MY BIKE ACROSS TOWN, PEOPLE TALKING.
AND, AND HONESTLY, THERE'S TIMES OF DAY WHERE IT'S MUCH E MUCH QUICKER TO, TO GO ACROSS THE LEN CREEK TRAIL TO GET TO COMMUNITY CENTER FROM CITY HALL THAN TO DRIVE.
SO I THINK WE, WE NEED TO THINK WITH, WITH COMMUNICATIONS ON HOW WE HIGHLIGHT AND, AND, YOU KNOW, PLAY UP, NOT PLAY UP, BUT JUST HIGHLIGHT THE, THE FUN FACTOR OF IT AS WELL.
IT'S SO, SO THAT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN ADD TO THE MIX AS WELL, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH EVERYTHING ELSE WE NEED WITH COMMUNICATIONS.
BUT IT'S, IT'S NICE TO DO FUN THINGS, UM, WITH COMMS SOMETIMES TOO.
AND I'LL ADD THAT THIS IS WHERE TO, TO FAST FORWARD TO THE NEXT PART OF THE CONVERSATION, WHICH IS ABOUT THE ROUND TABLES AND WORKING THOSE INTO WORKING GROUPS.
THIS IS PART OF, UH, THE, THE, TO ACTIVATE THE COMMUNITY TO BE A BIGGER PART OF ALL OF THIS.
THAT'S WHERE THE CARBON GARDEN CAMPAIGN IS THE ONE THAT'S UNDERWAY, THAT IS AN AD HOC THAT WAS FORMED, UM, AT THE LAST MEETING.
UM, UH, THE MEDIA AND VISUALIZATION THAT IT SPEAKS TO THE CREATIVITY BRINGING IN OUR COMMUNITY TO BE A PART OF CREATING SOME OF THE, THE WAYS THAT WE COMMUNICATE WHAT WE WANT TO SEE HAPPENING IN OUR COMMUNITY.
COM, YOU KNOW, COMPELLING STORYTELLING, ART, UM, CULTURAL ENGAGEMENT.
THAT PART IS, UM, UH, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY, UH, THAT ROUND TABLE TOPIC WAS COME UP WITH, UM, AS ONE OF THEM TO KIND OF FIND DIFFERENT WAYS SO THAT IT'S NOT JUST THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION OR JUST COOL PETALUMA, THAT IT'S OUR COMMUNITY, UH, PARTICIPATING AND DEVELOPING OUR, UH, THE WAYS THAT WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER AND, UH, BE COLLABORATIVE AND LEVERAGE EACH OTHER'S RESOURCES.
IN THIS CASE, THIS IS ORGANIZATIONS, OBVIOUSLY NOT INDIVIDUALS SO MUCH, BUT THE GOAL IS TO REACH OUT TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS ONCE WE COORDINATE THOSE EFFORTS.
SO HOW CAN WE GET WHAT YOU JUST SAID MM-HMM
INTO THIS SOMEHOW? WELL, THAT IS HOW
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WE'RE DOING IT.THAT'S ACTUALLY WHY, UH, THE WAY THAT THE STAFF REPORT'S LAID OUT IS THAT, UM, WE TALKED ABOUT THE AD HOCS.
THE IDEA IS THAT THERE, THERE'S, IT'S NOT A ONE AND DONE.
WE FIRST WE DO, UH, U FM ONE, THEN WE DO OSM ONE.
LIKE WE CAN'T, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S DONE THROUGH A COORDINATED EFFORT THAT'S MULTIPLE THINGS ARE GETTING HIT AT THROUGH ONE EFFORT.
LIKE THAT CARBON GARDEN CAMPAIGN HITS OUR CARBON GARDEN CAMPAIGN.
IT HITS OUR COMPREHENSIVE LEG LAND MANAGEMENT, IT HITS OUR NATURAL SYSTEMS POLICY.
AND SO WE ARE, UH, PULLING THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER AT THOSE ROUND TABLES.
AND THE ASK IS, IS IF YOU ALL WANT TO PARTICIPATE ON THOSE ROUND TABLE DISCUSSIONS AND HELP LEAD THE WORKING GROUPS, BECAUSE THEY BECOME OUR PART OF OUR TEAM THAT HELPS US IMPLEMENT THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN.
IT'S WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THIS IS, UM, THIS, UH, THE, THE BLUEPRINT, WHAT YOU'VE JUST SAID, AND THE ACTION PLAN AND THE PARTICIPATION UP HERE.
HOW DOES THAT BECOME PART OF THE GENERAL PLAN THAT'S COMING? SO THAT GETS MORE COMMUNICATED AND, AND, UH, UM, VISUALIZED, I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT IN THE MEANTIME.
I JUST, JUST COMMENT, COMMENT.
I, I, THAT MIGHT, THAT, THAT GOING THAT MINUS THE BLUEPRINT
I JUST WANT YOU THINKING ABOUT THIS.
THAT'S THE
I, I THINK WE NEED TO KEEP THAT IN MIND, BUT WITH THE BLUEPRINT, AT LEAST WE'RE IN IMPLEMENTATION PHASE, SO HOPEFULLY THE, THE GENERAL PLAN CATCHES UP WITH WHAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING.
AND A LOT OF THIS IS, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS PART OF THE GENERAL PLAN IN AND OF ITSELF.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? WELL, I GUESS I, I KIND OF CUT DEB OFF AT THE TDM THING.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S MORE NO, NO.
THIS IS, I I ACTUALLY THINK THIS IS A PRODUCT.
IT HELPS ME GUIDE YOU GUYS ON WHERE THESE AD HOCS REALLY COULD BE DRILLED DOWN TO.
CAN, I DIDN'T WANT TO CUT YOU OFF IF YOU NO, NO.
I MEAN, I, UM, YOU KNOW, I STILL PERSONALLY, I DON'T KNOW IF AN AD HOC OF ONE CAN EXIST, BUT LIKE, THERE ARE SOME BASIC THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE TO TAKE A DEFUNCT POLICY AND MAKE IT UNNC, YOU KNOW? AND SO THAT'S, I THINK, WORTHWHILE EFFORT.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, CAN IT BE, IT'S LIKE WE HAVE A BUNCH OF BUSINESSES NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH MEETING THIS REQUIREMENT, WHICH WE ALL AGREE IS YEAH.
UH, NEEDS TO BE MODERNIZED, YOU KNOW, BUT LIKE, THAT'S NOT LIKE A NEW ORDINANCE AND GETTING PEOPLE UPSET, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST, LIKE, PERSONALLY FOR ME, A PERSONAL HUGE VICTORY OUTTA DOING ANYTHING LIKE THAT WOULD BE GET A COUPLE OF OUR LARGEST EMPLOYERS TO JUST ENGAGE WITH THE MASCOTS PROGRAM.
WELL, AND SO THIS IS WHERE I THINK THIS IS THEIR OPPORTUNITY FROM WHAT YOU ALL WERE WORKING ON WITH SONOMA CLEAN POWER.
THAT CONVERSATION IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN, UM, BLENDING WITH WHAT COOL BIZ HAS BEEN WORKING ON.
BECAUSE IN THE END, IT'S THE SAME MESSAGE.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF SCALE OF BUSINESS THAT NEEDS TO HEAR THAT THERE ARE TRA WASTE OF TRANSPORTATION.
THERE ARE ENERGY EFFICIENCY MEASURES THAT YOU CAN DO.
LIKE, SO I ACTUALLY THINK THAT I COULD CONNECT YOU AS IN, AS PART OF THIS BUSINESS CONVERSATION, THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE CREATING A WORKING GROUP TO SUPPORT OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY IN THIS TOP 10.
AND LIKE, YOU'D BE ONE OF ONE HELPING ON TDM.
UH, I THINK IT'S A NEEDED THING.
UH, I, I, YOU KNOW, I EVEN TRIED TO TALK TO DANA TUR.
I'M LIKE, CAN WE CREATE TDM PLANS FOR SCHOOLS SO THAT WE CAN HAVE, I MEAN, LIKE, SO SHE'S LIKE, WELL,
DO YOU KNOW, UH, IN THE END WE JUST NEED TO COME UP WITH WHAT CAN BUSINESSES DO? WHAT CAN DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES DO IS GONNA BE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT BUSINESSES OVER IN THE SOUTHEAST BUSINESS PARK OR THE NORTHEAST BUSINESS PARK.
SO WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT OF LIKE WHAT SIZE.
AND THAT'S THE SAME THING THAT SONOMA CLEAN POWER, UH, TOPIC WE WERE DOING AROUND EVERGREEN OF LIKE, HOW DO YOU SCALE IT SO THAT BUSINESSES THE ARE GETTING THE SAME MESSAGE.
AND SONOMA CLEAN POWER'S ANSWER WAS, YOU DON'T COME TO THEM WITH JUST ONE THING, COME TO THEM WITH A WHOLE SUITE.
HERE'S THE 10 THINGS THAT, THAT YOU CAN DO, BECAUSE THERE'S GONNA BE VALUE EQUATIONS FOR EACH OF THEM TO DO OR NOT DO BASED ON WHAT THEIR BUSINESS NEEDS ARE.
AND REALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING IS TALKING ABOUT HELPING THEM SAVE MONEY.
AND SO, BUT WE JUST HAPPEN TO DO IT THROUGH THE GUISE OF, HERE'S WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR GREEN PURCHASING.
HERE'S WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR LOWER YOUR ENERGY COSTS.
HERE'S WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR YOUR TRANSPORTATION.
I, I THINK I GOT RECRUITED TO SOMETHING.
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YEAH.UH, I, WE CAN MOVE ON FROM THE TD M1, I GUESS.
I DON'T KNOW BEYOND THAT ANY OTHERS ARE, ARE THERE ANY, UH, OF THE, YOU KNOW, WE DID A, OUR BEST GUESS AS A COMMISSION TO PROVIDE THESE, UM, THESE MILESTONES.
ARE THERE ANY THAT SEEM LIKE YOU'RE SPINNING YOUR WHEELS OR IT'S, IT'S LIKE, IT'S GONNA BE SO MUCH EFFORT THAT IT, IT MAY BE OUT OF YOUR HANDS.
LIKE IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S FORCES OUT OF YOUR CONTROL.
ARE THERE ANYTHING, IS THERE ANYTHING IN HERE THAT YOU THINK THAT MAYBE WE WAS A BIT OF A REACH, JUST CURIOUS.
LIKE, WE DON'T WANT TO LIKE BURDEN THE CITY WITH SOMETHING WHERE THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LIKE, LIKE, WE, WE CAN ONLY DO WHAT WE CAN DO.
SO I'M JUST CURIOUS IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU FEEL LIKE, WELL, I DO HAVE ONE.
AND WE TRIED TO GET AN INTERN TO HELP ON THIS.
UM, AND THAT DIDN'T COME THROUGH.
BUT IT IS THAT COST BENEFIT AND FUNDING SOURCES, UH, YEAH.
THAT'S, THAT IS A EXPERTISE THAT AND, AND ESTIMATE THE ORDER OF MAGNITUDE, COST OF BLUEPRINT IMPLEMENTATION.
I, I, I WAS ALWAYS A LITTLE BOTHERED BY THAT ONE.
UM, I THINK THE INTENT WAS REALLY GOOD.
JUST EDITORIALIZING HERE, BUT IF YOU CAN'T, IF IT, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU GAVE THE COLLEGE TRY AND IT'S LIKE, IT'S JUST TOO MUCH TO WRAP OUR ARMS AROUND.
THAT'S THE ONE THAT JUST SITS THERE KIND OF GOING, OH, I, YEAH.
I, I DON'T, I I WISH I HAD A, YOU KNOW, A MASTER'S OR A PHD IN ECONOMICS.
UM, WELL, IF WE HAD BILLIONS OF DOLLARS MM-HMM
WE COULD DO ALL THESE THINGS, RIGHT? YEAH.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE GOT A YEAH, IT'S TRUE.
AND THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE ESSENCE OF THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING THAT ARE RELATED IS THAT WE'RE WORKING AT A COUNTY LEVEL TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO FUND PROJECTS.
BECAUSE WE'RE ALL PREPARING FOR PROP FOUR.
IT'S NOT A COST BENEFIT, UH, ANALYSIS THAT WE'RE DOING, BUT IT'S PROJECT READINESS.
AND ONE THING, I ACTUALLY LOVE BRAGGING WHEN I TALK TO PEOPLE FROM OTHER CITIES, I'M LIKE, PETALUMA DOES AN INSANELY GOOD JOB OF LEVERAGING EX UH, EXTERNAL FUNDING SOURCES.
SO EVEN IF WE CAN'T, YOU KNOW, COST OUT EVERYTHING OURSELVES, WE ARE ACTUALLY PULLING IN LOTS OF GRANT DOLLARS.
UM, AND, AND OTHER FUNDING SOURCES THAT ARE, ARE BENEFITING CITI.
TO ME, I JUST FEEL LIKE THE SPIRIT OF IT IS ALREADY BEING DONE.
MAYBE, MAYBE WE COULD, YOU KNOW, MAYBE YEAH.
THAT'S THE, AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER ONE THAT SIT SITS AS A TDM OR NOT, OR T PUT TDB, TDM.
SEE, I'VE GOT TDM ON THE BRAIN.
UH, TDB IS THAT NATURAL SYSTEMS POLICY, UM, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE DOING.
BUT IT, IT'S THE SAME THING LIKE A POLICY.
I'M NOT, I DON'T THAT THAT ONE'S A, THERE'S SOME IN HERE THAT I, I, I GO, HMM.
WELL I THINK WE, WE HAVE PRACTICES THAT ARE YEAH.
GETTING INTO THAT REALM, BUT WE DON'T HAVE LIKE AN OVERARCHING POLICY THAT GUIDES THAT OTHER THAN JUST THAT WE WANT THAT TO HAPPEN.
AND WE'RE, WE'RE ADVOCATING FOR THOSE THINGS TO HAPPEN WHEREVER WE CAN.
THE, THE OTHER ONE, I THINK I WOULD SAY THAT I'M, I MEAN, IT, I THINK IT WOULD JUST BE AN EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN.
'CAUSE I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE LEGAL AUTHORITY WE HAVE FOR IT IS THE INTEGRATED PEST MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR HOAS IN THE PUBLIC.
UM, YOU KNOW, PROVIDING TEMPLATES.
YOU KNOW, WE CAN, WE CAN POINT TO OUR IPM POLICY THAT WE HAVE NOW AND PROVIDE TEMPLATES.
AND WE'RE ACTUALLY MAKING PROGRESS ON, UM, THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT.
WE'RE TALKING WITH CONSULTANTS ABOUT, UM, DEVELOPING THAT FOR US CURRENTLY.
UM, SO THAT ONE, SO ON THE, I'M NOT SURE THE SCOPE OF WHAT WAS ENVISIONED WITH THAT ONE, BUT IT, IT MIGHT BE A, A RELATIVELY SMALL ONE IN THAT IT'S, HERE'S AN EXAMPLE, HERE'S THE BENEFITS OF, OF GOING THIS WAY AND, AND AN EDUCATION CAMPAIGN OF WHY THIS IS IMPORTANT.
BUT REQUIRING IS THE PART I'M HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF DIFFICULTY ON.
I'M, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE AUTHORITY IS ON THAT, BUT, UM, AGAIN, THAT KIND OF REMAINS TO BE SEEN.
IS THAT THE ONE YOU WERE? IT IS, UH, ON THE SCREEN, THE OSM, UH, THREE, THREE O SM THREE RIGHT HERE.
'CAUSE THAT IS ONE THAT, YOU KNOW, I COULD JUST, I, YEAH.
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MORE, YEAH.UH, OSM INTEGRATED PEST MANAGEMENT.
I HAPPEN TO HAVE A MASTER'S IN INTEGRATED PEST MANAGEMENT.
SO, OH, WELL ONE, ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE DONE IN THE PAST, AND I WAS ALSO A PEST CONTROL ADVISOR AND, UM, UH, CONTROL OPERATOR ALSO FOR LICENSED HERE IN CALIFORNIA FOR MANY YEARS.
UM, SO I, I KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS.
UM, NOW THE, THE PLANS, INTEGRATED PEST MANAGEMENT PLANS, UH, CAN BE NOT DETAILED OR VERY DETAILED FOR ANYTHING DEPENDING UPON THE SIZE OF ORGANIZATION AND HOW, WHAT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TO DO.
UM, AND IT, THEY SHOULD HAVE AN INTEGRATED MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR THE SITE THAT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE CITY'S POLICIES.
UM, BUT MAY NOT HAVE TO BE REQUIRED.
DEPENDS ON IF YOU WANNA REQUIRE THEM TO, LET'S SAY, NOT SPRAY ROUNDUP ON THEIR PROPERTIES, WE CAN DO IT ON OUR CITY PROPERTIES, BUT I'M NOT SURE YOU CAN REQUIRE THAT ON THEIR PROPERTIES, UM, AT THIS TIME.
UM, UNLESS YOU WANNA MAKE A CITYWIDE BAN ROUNDUP ENTIRELY FOR ANY, ANY PRIVATE USE, BECAUSE THEY'RE BASICALLY PRIVATE, A PRIVATE IN INCORPORATION OF, OF THEMSELVES.
UM, BUT YOU CAN SAY WITH JUST LIKE ANY, LIKE BUILDING CODE OR ANYTHING, SAY YOU MUST HAVE, UM, INTEGRATED MANAGEMENT PLAN, UM, WHETHER OR NOT HOW, UM, SERIOUS IT IS, HOW RIGOROUS IT IS.
I'M NOT SURE IF YOU CAN ACTUALLY PUT, PUT SOMETHING ON THERE REQUIREMENT AT THAT POINT.
UM, UH, BUT YOU CAN SAY, UH, MEET CURRENT STANDARDS IN THAT YOU ARE GOING TO USE PROFESSIONALS, LET'S SAY IF THERE'S A MORE THAN AN INDIVIDUAL HOME, THEY'RE GONNA BE USING, UM, PROFESSIONALS IN THEIR OPERATION THAT MUST BE LICENSED, UH, FOR PEST CONTROL, ADVICE OR CONTROL.
SO THERE IS THINGS YOU CAN DO, UM, BUT IT JUST CAN'T REQUIRE THEM TO HAVE A, A FULL PLAN.
IT'S GONNA BE IDENTICAL TO OUR PLAN.
UM, SO HOW FAR DO YOU WANNA GO WITH THIS? AND THEN HOW DO YOU ACTUALLY OVERSEE IT? BECAUSE OVERSIGHT MIGHT BE A LITTLE DIFFICULT OTHER THAN JUST HAVING A LITTLE RULE SOMEWHERE OR RECOMMENDATION AGAIN FOR, UH, ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT.
UH, IT'S NOT CREATING ANY ORDINANCE.
IT'S A LOT OF WORK TO CREATE THIS TYPE OF ORDINANCE.
SO HOW FAR DO WE WANT TO GO AND PUSH IT? IS THIS HIGHLY CRITICAL THING OR NOT? WE WANNA DO IT FOR OURSELVES.
WE WANT, WE NEED TO HAVE OUR IPM MANAGER, WHICH WE HAVEN'T HIRED YET, WHICH YOU STILL PLAN ON HIRING.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW.
UM, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A, A PEST MANAGEMENT PROGRAM FOR ALL CITY PROPERTIES, WHICH IS ACTUALLY, SHOULD BE NECESSARY AND REQUIRED FOR US TO DO THAT.
UM, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE LOTS OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT WHOLE, BUT, BUT TO ACTUALLY EXTEND THAT BEYOND TO INDIVIDUALS, UM, ENTITIES THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT MUCH, 'CAUSE THERE'S ALREADY CALIFORNIA CODE, LOTS OF REGULATIONS ON FARMS AND EVERYBODY ELSE, UH, FOR, FOR OPERATIONS.
SO HOW FAR DO YOU WANT TO GO ON THAT ONE OR NOT? UM, UH, WE JUST LEAVE IT OPEN THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE, WE'D LIKE TO SEE EACH NEW, AND IF THERE'S SOMETHING NEW, OH, THERE NEEDS TO HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE FOR THEIR LANDSCAPE OF MANAGEMENT AS WELL AS IPM, IT SHOULD BE IN COMPREHENSIVE, NOT JUST IPM.
THEIR WHOLE LANDSCAPE PLAN NEEDS TO BE PUT OUT FORTH AND BUDGETED.
SO I WAS ALSO PART OF HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.
I WAS ACTUALLY CHAIR BOTH PLACES.
SO I'VE, I'VE HAD TO DEAL WITH THAT MYSELF.
UM, TRYING TO DO THAT IN INSIGHT.
AND YOU'RE DEALING WITH FOLKS THAT BASICALLY KNOW VERY LITTLE ABOUT THIS STUFF, TRYING TO MANAGE IT.
IT MIGHT BE VERY DIFFICULT TO GET THIS INTO HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS 'CAUSE A LACK OF EDUCATION AND KNOWLEDGE.
THOSE ARE JUST THE ISSUES TO, TO FACE ON THAT.
SO IF WE DEVELOP AN AD HOC ON THAT, WE, WE KNOW ONE MEMBER THAT WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THAT.
YOU YOU'LL WANT ME, I GUESS YOU'LL WANT ME ON IT.
UH, ONE, ONE QUESTION I HAD, UH, OR NOT REALLY A QUESTION SO MUCH.
THE COMMENT JUST SEEMS LIKE, I MEAN, WE, WE'VE GOTTA GIVE IT UP.
Y'ALL HAVE REALLY TRIED TO ON EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE TO ADDRESS IT.
AND I THINK THAT WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD HAVE, THAT SHOULD BE CAPTURED SOMEHOW THAT LIKE, IF YOU CAN'T MEET THIS GOAL, THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, THIS IS WHAT WE DID.
THESE ARE THE OBSTACLES WE RAN INTO, AND WE DECIDED TO, TO STOP PURSUING IT BECAUSE IT WAS NOT, UM, IT WAS NOT POSSIBLE OR IT WOULD'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, EXTREMELY DIFFICULT OR WHATEVER IT IS.
UM, BECAUSE I THINK YOU SHOULD GET THE CREDIT FOR TRYING.
AND, AND A SIMILAR NOTE OF LIKE, WHAT IS THE PROCESS THAT
IT WILL COME IN A LITTLE BIT, UM, UH, THAT MONITORING REPORTING, THAT DASHBOARD IS COMING.
UM, AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE THIS CONVERSATION WILL REALLY COME IN, UH, ONCE WE DETERMINE WHICH DASHBOARD IT'S GOING TO BE, UM, WE'LL KNOW HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS, UH, UH, WHAT DIRECTION THAT'S GOING.
AND, UM, I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE CAN REALLY DIVE INTO THAT CONVERSATION.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT WAY TO COMMUNICATE OUT TO THE PUBLIC AND SAY, WHY WASN'T THAT DONE? OH, SORRY, WHY WASN'T THAT DONE? MM-HMM
AND, AND THEN IT'D BE GREAT IF YOU COULD ACTUALLY LITERALLY CLICK ON THE MILESTONE AND IT
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WOULD TAKE YOU TO THOSE, THOSE DETAILS.AND, YOU KNOW, IF PEOPLE WANNA PURSUE ACTIVISM BASED ON THAT, THEY CAN, IT WOULD HELP, MAYBE HELP POINT THEM IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
THAT IS, UM, REALLY WHAT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT IS WHAT DASHBOARD WILL AND HOW DO YOU COMMUNICATE TO, UM, PROBABLY NO SURPRISE TO ALL OF US.
UH, OUR, UH, ACTION PLAN HAS MORE ACTIONS THAN MOST CITIES.
UM, AND SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A COMPLICATION TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO REPORT THOSE ACTIONS OUT IN A WAY THAT IS DIGESTIBLE BY THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
SO THIS HAS BEEN PART OF THE TRYING TO FIND THE RIGHT PLATFORM
HOW IS THAT PROCESS GOING OF IDENTIFYING, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF OPTIONS IN PLAY AT THE MOMENT TO FIGURE OUT WHICH ONE DOES, IS THERE SORT OF A TIMELINE ON WHEN THAT, MY GOAL IS BY THE, UH, ONE YEAR ANNIVERSARY THAT, UH, THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN WAS APPROVED.
WE'LL SEE
THIS IS WHY WE WERE AIMING COMPLETELY DOWN A PATHWAY AND, UM, WAS SO EXCITED.
AND THEN I LEARNED ALMOST THE DAY AFTER WE, IT WAS, IT WAS, YEAH.
THAT THE COUNTY WAS DOING SOMETHING.
AND THAT IS LITERALLY WHAT IS WHY I SAY THERE'S A LOT AT PLAY AT THE MOMENT, IS WE ARE LOOKING, THE COUNTY IS LOOKING AT A ONE THAT WE WOULD HELP PILOT.
UH, AND WHICH MAKES THE MOST SENSE BECAUSE IT, ALL, ALL OF OUR STUFF ROLLS UP TO, THEY DO OUR GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS CALCULATIONS AT THIS POINT.
AND SO, UM, THEY'RE TRYING TO NOW EXPEDITE THEIR PROCESS SO THAT WE CAN START EVEN LOOKING AT IT.
'CAUSE I HAVEN'T EVEN SEEN IT BESIDES THE WHAT, UH, WHAT YOU CAN SEE ONLINE, WHICH DOESN'T SAY A LOT.
AND SO, ANYWAYS, THAT IS LITERALLY WHAT I JUST SHOULDN'T I YES, THAT'S, THAT IS WHAT'S HAPPENING,
IT'S YEAH, THE IDEA, BUT WE HAVEN'T SEEN IT IN ACTION TO EVEN KNOW AS THE COUNTY HAS, NOT EITHER.
BUT WHAT WE LOVE IS THE ABILITY TO PILOT A REGIONAL, WHICH IS WHAT, UM, IT'S THE ILEY PLATFORM.
THEY ARE CLEARVIEW OR WHATEVER IT'S CALLED.
THEY LOVE THAT THE COUNTY WANTS TO DO IT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A COUNTY PILOT OF IT AT THIS POINT.
AND SO TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A CITY BELOW BE ABLE TO PILOT OUR OWN VERSION THAT ROLLS UP TO THEIRS IS INTRIGUING ON OUR END, BUT WE HAVE TO SEE IF IT'S INTRIGUING ON THEIRS.
IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE EASIER TO COLLABORATE AND SEE WHAT EACH OTHER'S DOING TOO, IF YOU'RE, EVERYBODY'S USING EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTY'S USING THE SAME PLATFORM.
AND SO THAT'S WHY IT MAY SLOW US DOWN BECAUSE WE'RE NOW WAITING AND THEY'RE ACTIVE, INACTIVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT IT.
UM, BUT IT JUST MAY SLOW US DOWN TO MEET MY PERSONAL GOAL, WHICH WAS BY, UH, THE NOVEMBER MEETING TO SAY ONE OF THE NOVEMBER MEETINGS TO SAY, HERE IT IS
SO, UM, WELL, IF IT'S OKAY, I THINK THIS IS A GOOD PLACE TO STOP AND DO SOME PUBLIC COMMENT AND WE'LL HAVE MORE COMMISSION DISCUSSION AND FEEDBACK AFTER.
UM, IF WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ITEM? NO.
AND NOTHING BEFORE THE MEETING? NO, JUST THE TWO THAT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER.
UH, CAN WE PULL THAT LIST BACK UP? IS THAT OKAY? YEAH.
WHAT, OH, OH, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU'RE PARTICULARLY PROUD OF? LIKE WHAT WAS, UH, SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD ALL KNOW THAT YOU EITHER IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING DONE OR IT'S GOTTEN DONE THAT, UH, IS LIKE, BEEN A BIG WIN OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT YOU, UH, YEAH.
YOU WANNA HIGHLIGHT? UM, WELL, MY, UH, RELATED STILL TO TRANSPORTATION IS, UM, THERE IS, THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN IS COMING ON, UH, MONDAY.
UH, THERE IS AN ACTIVE PROJECT, UH, THAT IS WORKING CROSS APARTMENT, UH, TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO FEASIBLY PUT TREES IN THE STREET THAT WILL SURVIVE, UH, AND BE WATERED AND CARED FOR.
MAINTENANCE IS THE BIGGEST ISSUE.
UH, STREET, UH, UH, IT'S A, IT'S COMPLICATED TO HAVE STREET STRUCTURE MAINTAIN.
UM, AND SO WE'RE WORKING WITH A-C-T-C-A ON THAT.
AND, UM, THERE IS, UH, UH, CONSULTANT PLANNING COMING INTO IT.
IT INTERFACES WITH OUR GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN.
UH, IT INFRASTRUCTURES INTERFACES WITH OUR URBAN FORESTRY MANAGEMENT PLAN.
IT'S REALLY, AND IT'S GOT A LOT OF TEAM, A LOT OF INTERNAL TEAM AND COMMUNITY PARTNERS, UH, WORKING ON DEVELOPING THIS.
AND WE'RE MAKING OUR WAY THROUGH THE SCHOOLS TO ENROLL THEM.
AND, UH, AND SO THERE'S SOME REALLY EXCITING STUFF COMING FORWARD.
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ARE THERE PARTICULAR SITES YOU'RE, YOU'RE, THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE? OR ARE, ARE YOU ALLOWED TO DISCLOSE THAT? RIGHT.IT, IT'S, THE SOUTHEAST QUADRANT IS WHERE IT'S, IT'S, MM-HMM
IS WHERE A LOT OF THE, THE INITIAL HIGH INJURY NETWORK SCHOOLS ARE, IN OTHER WORDS THERE, BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT JUST THERE.
THERE'S S-C-T-C-A HAS A, A PRIORITI PRIORITIZED LIST OF SCHOOLS AND THAT THEY'RE, UH, I'VE IDENTIFIED THAT ARE WITHIN PCS AND OLD ADOBE.
AND SO, YEAH, SO THAT, THAT'S, UH, THAT ONE BECAUSE IT HITS SO MANY DIFFERENT ELEMENTS, UH, AT THE SAME TIME, WHICH IS, UM, SPEAKING TO WHAT BRUCE WAS TALKING ABOUT, IT, IT, IT, IT'S CLIMATE ADAPTIVE, UH, ROADS THAT ARE MULTI-USE, FIRST CARS, BIKES, PEOPLE, NATURE, UH, AND CAPTURES WATER COOLS THE STREETS.
WELL, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ON BOARD.
UH, AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH SAN MATEO.
UH, THEY, THEY HAVE A NEW STUDY THAT JUST CAME OUT THAT IS REALLY HELPING US UNDERSTAND WHAT IS FEASIBLE AND HOW THE COST WORK AND, UM, AND SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A, EVERY WEEK A LITTLE BIT FARTHER GOES.
WE ALSO HAVE A BUNCH OF, UH, UH, NONPROFITS HERE IN TOWN THAT ARE FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS CONCEPT AND WILLING TO STEP UP AND STEP IN AND, AND HELP OUT WITH THIS.
BETWEEN RELIEF, UH, REBUILD, UM, DAILY ACTS ARE ALL PARTICIPATING.
IN, IN THIS, UH, PROVIDING LABOR, PROVIDING VOLUNTEERS, UM MM-HMM
VERY COOL IDEAS, UM, AND SO FORTH.
SO THERE IS, THERE'S A LOT HAPPENING HERE.
SO IT'S NOT JUST CITY STAFF INVOLVED.
AND TOMORROW, WE, MTC, WE, WE'VE BEEN DESIGNATED THE, THE ZONE.
THIS ONE OF THE SCHOOL ZONES HAS BEEN DESIGNATED PRIORITY CONSERVATION AREA THAT HOPEFULLY TOMORROW IS THE DAY THAT THEY RE IT GETS APPROVED.
IT WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL, UH, TO HAVE, BE NOMINATED, AND NOW WE'RE WAITING FOR MTC TO DESIGNATE IT, WHICH PUTS IT INTO WHOLE SEPARATE POT OF DOLLARS, UH, TO GET FUNDED.
UM, AND, AND WE STILL HAVE TO APPLY, BUT IT'S SUCH A UNIQUE PROJECT THAT WE KNOW THAT IS, UH, MORE LIKELY TO GET FUNDED.
LOOKING FORWARD TO, UH, HEARING SOME, YEAH, THEY HAVE PRODUCT UPDATES.
I HAVE A QUESTION ON ONE OF THEM.
THE, LIKE, UM, THE STAFF GREEN LEADER ONE, DO YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT? I, THE ONE IS YEAH, THE BLUEPRINT, UH, BLUE BLUEPRINT COORDINATORS COORDINATOR.
SO THAT'S, THAT ONE SOUNDS EASY, BUT IT'S PROBABLY EXTREMELY DIFFICULT.
ANY FEEDBACK ON THAT? WELL, SO, UM, ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS I DID WAS MEET WITH THE, OUR, OUR, THERE WAS ANOTHER CITY THAT HAD, UH, THE SAME CONSULTANT, RIGHT? THEIR BLUEPRINT, UM, AND, UH, WHAT'S THAT? A LITTLE CLOSER, SORRY.
UH, AND, UH, SHE GAVE ME SOME FEEDBACK ON WAYS TO THINK ABOUT IT BECAUSE SHE TRIED TO DO IT.
AND TO HAVE JUST A MEETING, TO HAVE A MEETING, UM, ISN'T THE MOST PRODUCTIVE WAY.
WHAT SHE RECOMMENDED AND IS, IS WHAT IS HAPPENING IS WE'RE HAVING PROJECTS, PEOPLE GETTING, BRINGING THEIR, UH, EXPERTISE TO PROJECTS, AND IT'S GROWING THAT WAY.
SO I HAVE A, A, A LIST IN EVERY DEPARTMENT OF LIKE, WHO I CALL, WHO ARE, WHO ARE THE PEEPS, UH, WHO ARE THE BLUEPRINT PEOPLE THAT I CAN TURN TO THAT CAN, UH, HELP IMPLEMENT.
THAT BEING SAID, THERE IS A TRAINING COMING THAT WE'LL BE, UM, DOING WITH CITY STAFF.
UM, AND, BUT TO ACTUALLY HAVE LIKE A BLUEPRINT QUARTERLY MEETING YET HASN'T BEEN NEEDED.
WHAT IT WILL COME INTO IS WHEN WE START DOING OUR, UH, UH, DASHBOARD.
AND SO IT DOES COME INTO PLAY.
IT'S JUST NOT GONNA BE SUCH A FORMAL STRUCTURE AROUND IT.
UM, BUT WE HAPPEN TO HAVE AN EASIER CITY TO DO THIS IN BECAUSE THERE IS SO MUCH, UM, UH, KNOWLEDGE AND SUPPORT AND, UH, ON IMPLEMENTING.
SO, AND JUST TO ADD TO THAT, LIKE THE, THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, LIKE THE SCALES, SOME OF 'EM ARE, ARE HUGE.
LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LUMA ICE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FARES.
UM, SO WHEN, WHEN YOU HAVE LIKE A DISCUSSION ABOUT PURPLE CUPS AND WHAT CAN WE DO TO REDUCE WASTE DURING THESE EVENTS, AND NOBODY BATS AN EYE AT THOSE MEETINGS.
LIKE, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU'VE, YOU'VE GOT THE RIGHT PEOPLE ON YOUR TEAM.
UM, WHEN EVERYBODY'S JUST THINKING ABOUT WHAT, WHAT ELSE WE CAN DO TO MAKE IT EVEN BETTER, INSTEAD OF LIKE, HOW CAN WE AVOID DOING THIS? THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT.
LIKE, EVERYBODY'S LIKE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE INVESTED THERE IN, THEY WANT TO SEE THESE THINGS SUCCESSFUL.
SO THAT'S, I MEAN, YES, THERE, THERE'S, THERE'S ALWAYS MORE THAT WE CAN DO, AND THERE'S PROBABLY SPECIFIC TRAININGS THAT WE SHOULD SET UP TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S JUST IN REGULAR COURSE OF BUSINESS DOING THINGS THAT ARE ALIGNED WITH THIS.
BUT I, I JUST WANNA SHARE THAT IT IS REALLY ENCOURAGING TO GO TO THOSE MEETINGS AND NOT FEEL LIKE YOU'RE THE OUTLIER THAT SAYS, HEY, MAYBE WE
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SHOULDN'T THROW AWAY AS MUCH STUFF.MAYBE WE SHOULDN'T BE, YOU KNOW, PROMOTING VENDORS THAT ARE JUST SINGLE USE GARBAGE AFTER, AFTER THE EVENT'S OVER.
AND IT'S ALMOST MORE OF A CULTURE.
IT, THE CULTURE IS DEFINITELY SHIFTING.
SO THAT, JUST WANNA SHARE THAT IT'S SOUNDS, UH, I'M THINKING HERE.
UH, ISO 50,001, I GUESS IS THE FIRST THING THAT CAME TO MY MIND.
SO IF YOU GUYS AREN'T FAMILIAR WITH THAT ONE, THERE'S A WHOLE MANAGEMENT THEORY BEHIND THIS TYPE OF ACTIVITY AND PEOPLE BRINGING PROJECTS AND GETTING, YOU KNOW, INTRINSICALLY REWARDED AND WHATNOT.
YOU KNOW, IT'S THE STRATEGIC ENERGY MANAGEMENT.
PG E HAS A STRATEGIC ENERGY MANAGEMENT PROGRAM AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
SO, UM, YEAH, THAT'S, I GUESS, UH, YOU KNOW, NOT SURPRISING TO HEAR, BUT, UM, I GUESS IT DOES BRING UP A, YOU KNOW, UH, THE VICE CHAIR MENTIONED, LIKE, IF WE'RE NOT HITTING, IF OUR GOALS WERE POSSIBLY MORE AMBITIOUS OR NOT, WE SHOULD ACCOUNT FOR THAT IN SOME WAY.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S WORTH CONTINUING THAT CONVERSATION OR NOT.
AT AN EARLIER POINT, YOU MENTIONED EVEN POTENTIALLY LIKE ELIMINATING SOME OF THE THINGS ON HERE.
UM, I'M CURIOUS, LIKE, AT THAT IDEA, TO THE EXTENT THAT, UM, COULD BE DONE, WHICH SEEMS A LITTLE BIT, UH, PROBLEMATIC, BUT JUST THE OVERALL IDEA OF LIKE, IF WE ARE TRULY ACCOUNTING FOR THIS ACTIVITY AND ACCOUNTING FOR NOT DOING SOME OF THIS ACTIVITY, THEN WE ARE AT LEAST OFFICIALLY FURTHER AND FURTHER FROM OUR STATED GOAL AND OUR STATED POLICIES.
AND SO TO THE EXTENT WE DO OFFICIALLY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT EITHER BY PAUSING THIS OR EVENTUALLY IN THE DASHBOARD, THAT LIKE, HOW DO WE THEN LEAN INTO THE THINGS THAT ARE WORKING AND GET MORE, UH, ACTIVITY THERE? YOU KNOW? AND I'LL SAY LIKE, AGAIN, 70% OF OUR MISSIONS, TRANSPORTATION AND SINGLE FAMILY CARS, RIGHT? AND SO IT'S LIKE, TO ME, OKAY, TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT SOME OF THE OTHER STUFF THAT ISN'T LOW HANGING FRUIT IS NOT AS IMPORTANT AS SOME OF THE MOST LOW HANGING FRUIT.
AND TO THE EXTENT WE CAN ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, NOT SO MUCH THAT IT'S DIFFICULT, BUT IN THAT, LIKE WE, AT LEAST NO ONE HAS MADE ANY VOTE OTHERWISE.
WE ARE STILL CLIMATE NEUTRAL BY 2030, RIGHT? AND SO TO GET THERE, HOW ARE WE GONNA DO THAT? YOU KNOW? AND THEN THAT'S OKAY.
THE PARKING CONVERSATION, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE MORE DIFFICULT CONVERSATIONS BECOME MUCH MORE, YEAH, RIGHT.
IT'S LIKE, OKAY, DO YOU WANT TO, DO YOU WANT TO HAVE THIS PARKING BATTLE OR DO YOU WANNA HAVE THIS TDM EMPLOYER BATTLE? LIKE, WE ALREADY HAD THAT CONVERSATION AND LIKE, THIS IS WHERE OUR EFFORTS ARE GOING TO GO, AS, YOU KNOW, A COLLECTIVE GROUP.
SO, YOU KNOW, I, AT FIRST WHEN I HEARD YOU'D SAY LIKE, WELL, WE SHOULD POSSIBLY ELIMINATE THAT, OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, I'M LIKE, AH, YOU KNOW, LIKE, WE'RE NOT GONNA HIT OUR GOALS, YOU KNOW, BUT IT'S LIKE, LET'S ACKNOWLEDGE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A WHOLE MATH, YOU KNOW, AND THEN A WHOLE LITTLE CHART IN THE BLUEPRINT OF LIKE SUPER AMBITIOUS, EXTRA TRIPLE AMBITIOUS.
AND IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALREADY WAY BEHIND.
WE COULDN'T EVEN GET, YOU KNOW, THE BLUEPRINT.
WE HAD TO CHANGE THE NAME OF THE BLUEPRINT BECAUSE WE COULDN'T EVEN GET THERE, YOU KNOW? AND SO IT'S LIKE, OKAY, COME ON GUYS.
LIKE THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM IS THE PEOPLE DRIVING THEIR CARS.
AND SO TO THE EXTENT WE COULD FORMALLY IN SOME WAY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE'RE NOT HITTING SOME OF THOSE LESS IMPACTFUL CATEGORIES, THE MORE WEIGHT I THINK IT COULD CARRY FOR SOME OF THOSE MORE IMPORTANT THINGS.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT COMMENT.
TWO THINGS JUST TO, UM, SUPPORT THAT.
I'D SAY, YES, UH, TRANSPORTATION IS NUMBER ONE, AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HIT THAT ONE REALLY HARD.
UM, AND, UH, WE HAVE TO BE, GONNA HAVE TO BE VERY BLUNT, UH, WITH THE, WITH THE COMMUNITY ABOUT IT, BECAUSE THERE'S A HUGE RESISTANCE.
UM, IT'S A UPHILL, UM, IT'S GONNA TAKE A LOT OF ENERGY TO, TO GET UP UP THE HILL YET, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE A CONSENSUS THAT YEAH, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING.
UM, BUT WE'RE GONNA GET THERE.
UH, WHICH BRINGS ME TO, UM, WHAT THE AD HOCS DID.
I LOOKED AT THE, UH, I REVIEWED THE REPORTS THAT WERE FROM LAST MEETING, SO I JUST WENT OVER 'EM AGAIN.
AND, AND I'M TRYING TO THINK ABOUT HOW, UM, HOW ARE WE GOING TO TRANSLATE THIS INTO THE BLUEPRINT, UM, AND WHERE, HOW DOES THIS LEAP FROM, FROM THERE TO HERE AND INTO OUR ACTUAL ACTIONS AND WHAT WE CAN DO, OR WHICH BLUEPRINT ACTIONS ARE BEING IMPACTED? SO FROM THE REPORT, A LOT OF WORK WENT INTO THIS ALMOST SIX MONTHS OF WORK.
SO, UM, HOW IS THIS BEING RECEIVED AND HOW ARE YOU TRANSLATING THE, THE REPORT INTO THE
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BLUEPRINT RIGHT NOW? THAT'S THE, THAT'S OUR CURRENT TOPIC.UM, SIMPLY BY LITERALLY MARKING, I HAVE A MUCH DEEPER SPREADSHEET THAN THIS ONE, RIGHT? THAT I SHOWED YOU.
WE, I WE MARKET THE CHANGES OR WE MARKING THE ADVANCES, OR HOW WERE YOU, WELL, MOST OF THE WORK THAT WAS DONE THROUGH THE AD HOCS WAS, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS EXCEPT FOR THE, UH, ONE ORDINANCE THAT IS NOW HAS A PROJECT UNDERWAY.
AND SO THAT'S WHY IT CONTRIBUTED TO US BEING ABLE TO MARK IN PROGRESS.
UM, DOES IT HELP YOU PRIORITIZE, IS WHAT I'M SORT OF ASKING AS TO WHICH ONES TO PUT THE MORE EFFORT INTO AND WHICH ONES WE NEED TO GO AFTER FIRST, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF THE GOALS OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS IS PRIORITIZATION.
I'M NOT SURE I THINK THAT, BE SURE HOW TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
I I MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP GIVE AN EXAMPLE HERE.
SO AS PART OF OUR AD HOC, WE LOOKED INTO, UH, REPLACING, UH, OFF-ROAD EQUIPMENT LIKE LAWN, YOU KNOW, LIKE, UM, LEAF BLOWERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
WE FIGURED OUT WHAT, WHAT, WHAT THE OBSTACLES WERE.
AND IT SHOULD PROBABLY INFORM YOU THAT LIKE, YEAH, THAT AVENUE'S PRETTY TOUGH RIGHT NOW.
TECHNOLOGY DOESN'T EXIST, RIGHT? SO IT'S LIKE WE CAN, WE CAN AT LEAST SCRATCH THAT ONE OFF AND, AND PURSUE STUFF THAT'S MAYBE A MORE LOW HANGING BRUTE OR MORE, MORE FEASIBLE.
THAT WAS KIND OF THE IDEA, HOPEFULLY.
IF THAT'S NOT HELPFUL TO YOU, IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE WE CAN DO? OR IF THAT, IF THAT WAS HELPFUL TO YOU? I THINK, I THINK THAT DUDE'S TRYING, TRYING TO ASCERTAIN THERE, WELL THAT PARTICULAR, THE ONE THAT WASN'T ACTUALLY, I ACTUALLY DIDN'T DO UNTIL 2027.
SO THAT ONE, LIKE, SO IT'S NOT ON THIS LIST RIGHT HERE.
I'M JUST, YEAH, I THINK THAT WAS, UM, THAT WAS THE THRUST OF HIS, WHAT HE WAS ASKING.
WELL, I, I THINK, YEAH, THE, THE ONE, SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS AGENDA ITEM
UM, SO YEAH, MAYBE WE SHOULD FOCUS ON IF THERE ARE OTHER AD HOCS THAT NEED TO GET CREATED TO HELP FOCUS THE FUTURE ACTIONS ON THAT.
UM, YEAH, I CAN, I CAN GO FROM THERE IF YOU WANT.
SO I, I'LL, I'LL, I'M JUST GONNA START THIS PART OF THE DISCUSSION BY RE REVIEWING WHAT, WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING.
SO, UM, ULTIMATELY THE CLIMATE NATIONAL COMMISSION ASKED HOW, HOW CAN WE HELP THE CITY? AND THE CITY WAS REALLY CLEAR THAT WE NEED THAT, UM, ACTIONABLE, DISCREET ACTIONS IN A REASONABLE TIMEFRAME THAT OUR ADVISORY IN NATURE, AND I THINK ALSO, YOU KNOW, LIKE ORDINANCE TYPE STUFF WOULD BE USEFUL TOO FOR THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, START A LITTLE BIT FURTHER ALONG.
UM, AND THEN I ALSO HEARD AND READ, UM, WELL, I READ THE ROUND TABLE WORKING GROUPS WOULD BE USEFUL.
A USEFUL WAY FOR US TO CONTRIBUTE, UM, INCLUDING KNOWLEDGEABLE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, IS IT'S SORT OF ALL IN THAT REALM.
UM, SO WE'RE, WE'RE BRINGING IN PEOPLE THAT THAT CAN HELP CONTRIBUTE, UM, BY JUST, JUST BY BEING ENGAGED, BUT THEN ALSO, YOU KNOW, WITH THEIR KNOWLEDGE, UM, AND POTENTIALLY HELPFUL WITH COMMUNICATION AND STORYTELLING AND IMP IMPLEMENTATION IN THOSE WAYS.
UM, SO THOSE ARE THE WAYS THAT THE CITY, UM, HAS STATED THAT WE CAN HELP.
AND SO THE AD HOCS THAT WE PREVIOUSLY, PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED WERE THAT EV AD HOC AND THE CARBON GARDENING AD HOC.
UM, ALSO SOME OTHER IDEAS WERE THOSE WERE THE TWO THAT WE SORT OF DECIDED ON EVS, CARBON GARDENING, BUT THERE WERE OTHER IDEAS THAT WERE THROWN AROUND, INCLUDING FINANCING, UM, WHICH ADDRESSES THAT COST BENEFIT MR TWO ONE THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.
UM, FINANCING, EBIT PROMOTION AND SAFETY.
UM, AND THEN TODAY WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE CLM THREE, WHICH IS THE NATURAL SYSTEMS POLICY.
UM, AND THEN THE INTEGRATED PEST MANAGEMENT.
THAT WOULD BE ONE THAT WE COULD DO NOW WE'RE IN THE FUTURE.
UM, AND THEN BEN TALKED ABOUT DOING A TDM AD HOC, EVEN IF HE'S THE ONLY ONE DOING IT.
UM, I WOULD CERTAINLY BE WILLING TO GO TO THE ROUND TABLE WORKING GROUPS AND JUST BE A LISTENER AND A REPORTER.
I, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.
SO I THINK THAT'S SORT OF THE PART WHERE WE ARE AT RIGHT NOW, IS WHO, WHO'S WILLING TO THROW THEIR HAT IN FOR WHICH OF THESE, UM, POTENTIAL AD HOCS.
AND WE HAVE TWO THAT WE SORT OF ALREADY CREATED.
SO WE HAVE EVS AND CARBON GARDENING, SO WHO WANTS TO DO THAT? AND THEN WHO WANTS TO TAKE PART IN TDM, UM, ROUND TABLE WORKING GROUPS OR ANY OTHER IDEAS THAT WE'VE BROUGHT FORTH?
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SO WE, ME AND JOHN MET, SORRY, WE COULDN'T CO I COULDN'T COORDINATE WITH YOU.WE DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A REPORT OUT ON THAT ONE.
SO WE ARE WORKING ON THAT AND HAVE A REPORT OUT.
I WILL STILL BE COMMITTED TO TRYING TO DO SOMETHING RELATED TO CDM AND WE'LL REPORT BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING ON THAT.
AND IS ANN BAKER DOING CARBON GARDENING? YES.
ARE YOU, I FEEL LIKE I HAVE, THE THING I'M WORKING ON, I DON'T KNOW IF IT SHOULD BE AN AD HOC.
IT'S, IT'S MY ONE GETTING RID OF THROW THAT I BEAT EVERY SINGLE TIME, GETTING RID OF, UH, RED TAPE.
AND I, I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT THAT TO BE AN AD HOC, BUT I, I FULLY INTEND TO KEEP NAGGING PATRICK AND DEB TO SEE IF WE CAN GET, UH, SOME, YOU KNOW, A, UH, A REPORT FROM DIFFERENT CITY DEPARTMENTS TO SEE WHAT IS STANDING IN THEIR WAY AND DISCRETE THINGS WE CAN DO TO HELP MAKE IT EASIER FOR THEM.
UH, IF THAT'S AN AD HOC THAT I, I'M HAPPY TO LEAD IT, BUT, UM, I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT THE COMMISSION WANTS TO TAKE.
WELL, I GUESS I WOULD ASK THE CITY STAFF IF THAT'S USEFUL, IF THAT'S, YEAH.
WHAT, WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE ON THAT.
I'M TRYING TO FORMULATE MY THOUGHTS.
UM, I MEAN, I, I, I DON'T THINK IT'S ESPECIALLY USEFUL FOR THEM TO COME UP AND, AND TALK ABOUT FAILURES AND WHY THEY CAN'T DO WHAT THEY'D WANNA DO.
BUT I, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT'S NOT THE THRUST OF WHAT DAVID'S TALKING ABOUT.
WE, WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT IT.
UM, I THINK GENERALLY WHEN WE SEE THERE'S A, A PROCESS THAT'S NOT WORKING, WE TRY TO FIND A WAY AROUND IT.
BUT I THINK THAT THERE'S PROBABLY OTHER THINGS I, I, I, I FEEL LIKE THAT'S WHEN, WHEN THE NOTION WAS TO LIKE, BRING THEM UP HERE AND, AND HAVE A PUBLIC CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT, I THINK IT'D BE BEST TO HAVE MAYBE THAT CONVERSATION FIRST AND AD HOC TO KIND OF IDENTIFY ISSUES AND HAVE, YOU KNOW, REALLY CANDID CONVERSATIONS.
UM, SO FROM THAT STANDPOINT, I THINK AN AD HOC COULD BE HELPFUL.
UM, AND THEN WITH THE GOAL OF, YOU KNOW, BRINGING TO LIGHT THE, THE, THE BIGGEST ONES AND HAVING SOME OUTTA THE BOX THINKING OF HOW THEY COULD BE SOLVED.
UH, SO IF THAT'S THE INTEREST OF THE COMMISSION, I, I THINK THAT COULD BE USEFUL.
UM, SO JUST, UH, TO SUPPORT THAT.
'CAUSE I, I KNOW THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS WORKING ON, LIKE FOR MY A DU, WAS TO ACTUALLY LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE, UM, UH, BLOCKS AND RESTRICTIONS AND DIFFICULTIES.
AND OF COURSE, I, I COURSE I'VE PRODUCED MY VIDEO ON, ON SOME OF THE ISSUES, UM, AROUND THE A DU CONSTRUCTION.
HOWEVER, UM, IT WOULD BE, I THINK THE CITY, UM, HAS MADE PROGRESS IN VARIOUS WAYS, PARTICULARLY AROUND THE BUILDINGS, UH, ABOUT, UH, HOW ARE WE GOING TO SUPPORT STRUCTURES, UH, MORE INFRASTRUCTURE AND ACTUAL PHYSICAL STRUCTURES HERE IN TOWN, WHETHER IT BE ADUS OR BUSINESSES OR, OR HOUSING OF SOME SORT.
SO WE HAVE DONE, AND THERE'S LOTS OF, UH, IDEAS THAT ARE BEING USED.
EVERYTHING FROM LOANS TO SUPPORTING THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO, UH, UH, SPEEDING UP THE PROCESS, OUR A DU CENTER.
THERE'S VARIOUS THINGS WE ARE DOING.
SO, UH, WE NEED TO MAKE THAT PUBLIC AS TO ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY TRYING TO DO.
AND THAT WE ARE FINDING AND LOOKING FOR ALL THESE OPPORTUNITIES TO STREAMLINE AND BRING THE TIME DOWN FROM START TO FINISH OF PROJECTS AND THE LIKE, BOTH FOR THE, UH, CLIENTS THAT ARE COMING TO BUILDING, UH, FOR BUILDINGS AS WELL AS INTERNAL CITY PROJECTS.
SO I THINK THERE IS A LOT HAPPENING FOR EFFICIENCY AND FOR, UH, REDUCING THE TIMEFRAMES, WHICH ARE REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THE DEVELOPERS.
SO WE, WE, WE ARE MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION.
I, WE JUST NEED A LITTLE REPORT THAT, OH, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.
EVERYTHING, UH, MIGHT BE JUST NICE TO HAVE SAYING, WE ARE DOING THIS, AND THIS IS PART OF WHAT, PART OF THAT, UH, PROCESS, WHICH ALSO HELPS US GET THE HOUSING, WHICH HELPS US WITH THE FOR, WHICH IS A TUMBLE DOWN DOMINO EFFECT.
SO, UM, THIS, THE RED TAPE, UM, THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT, UM, IS, IS, IS BEING WORKED ON.
SO CAN WE JUST GET A, UH, AN UPDATE AS TO OKAY, THE, UH, JUST, JUST A, A SHORT REPORT OF, HEY, THIS CURRENT THINGS, THINGS WE'RE DOING, BECAUSE I JUST GAVE YOU A SHORT LIST, I THINK OF THINGS.
IS THERE A LONGER LIST? AND I, I THINK THAT THE, THE TWO DEPARTMENTS THAT DAVID HAD SUGGESTED WERE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND PUBLIC WORKS, UM, WITH THE MAIN EMPHASIS ON THAT.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR, I MEAN, EVERYTHING YOU'VE ALREADY BEEN DOING ON THIS.
I DO WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR THAT ONE OF MY GOALS WITH THIS IS
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TO BRING SOMETHING TO A VOTE HERE WHERE WE MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL, UH, THINGS THAT MAYBE THE COUNCIL DOESN'T WANNA TOUCH, THAT WE RECOGNIZE AS A COMMISSION ARE IMPORTANT TO CLIMATE ACTION, RIGHT? UM, IF IT'S LIKE THE FOOD WEAR ORDINANCE, WE'RE HERE TO ADVISE.LET'S, LET'S ADVISE, LET'S, SO I, I, AS I THINK THE REPORT OUT IS GREAT.
BUT I THINK THAT MY, MY MAIN THRUST WAS HOPEFULLY TO ACTUALLY PRODUCE A SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT GETS, UH, VOTED ON AND SENT TO COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION.
IF, IF, YOU KNOW, WE CAN FIND THOSE THINGS, UH, AND, AND THE COMMISSIONER AGREES TO THEM.
BUT, UM, IF THAT IS SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO PURSUE WITH ME AS AN AD HOC, IF YOU THINK THAT THAT, AND IF THE COMMISSION THINKS THAT THAT WOULD BE FRUITFUL, IF THAT'S THE VEHICLE FOR THIS, IF THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO GO ABOUT THIS, I'M TOTALLY OPEN.
I MEAN, CAN YOU GIVE ME SOME EXAMPLES OF THESE LIKE, UM, IDEAS THAT ARE SORT OF BEING HELD UP? SO I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A FEW EXAMPLES.
UH, WELL, AND, AND, AND WHAT I WANNA MAKE SURE I'M VERY CRYSTAL CLEAR ON IS THIS IS NOT THE SYSTEM FAILING.
THIS IS THE SYSTEM WORKING AS IT'S CURRENTLY INTENDED, RIGHT? SO, UH, HOPEFULLY SOON WE'RE GONNA BE BREAKING GROUND ON A, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT NEXT TO THE TRAIN STATE.
THE, YOU KNOW, THE NORTH PETALUMA TRAIN STATION THAT IS 131 UNITS THAT IS GOING TO COST OR WILL HAVE COST BY THE TIME IT'S DONE OVER A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS.
AND IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT, UH, DENSE HOUSING BY TRANSIT AND IT'S AFFORDABLE HOUSING, IT CAN'T COST $770,000 A UNIT.
WE'RE NEVER GONNA MEET OUR GOALS.
AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO CONFRONT WHY IT'S THAT EXPENSIVE AND WHY IT HASN'T EVEN BROKEN GROUND YET, RIGHT? NOMINALLY, OH, IT'S ALL APPROVED.
BUT IF WE'RE IN TRULY IN A RACE AGAINST TIME, WE HAVE TO EXAMINE WHAT HAPPENED IN THAT PROCESS.
WHY DID, WHY DID IT TAKE SO LONG? WHY IS IT SO EXPENSIVE? BECAUSE, AND WHAT IT TURNS OUT, THE, THE KIND OF SAD TRUTH IS, BECAUSE IT'S A FANTASTIC PROJECT, IT'S GONNA HAVE A MICROGRID AND A, A VEHICLE TO GRID CHARGING, AND THEY'LL BE ABLE TO BE OFF GRID FOR LIKE THREE DAYS STRAIGHT OR SOMETHING.
IT'S LIKE, IT'S LIKE EVERYTHING YOU COULD EVER POSSIBLY WANT.
BUT THAT MEANT MEANS THAT A, IT COSTS A BUNCH MORE, EVEN THOUGH THAT NET IT ACTUALLY MADE $4 MILLION.
'CAUSE I ACTUALLY TALKED TO DANKO ABOUT THIS, IT, IT MADE MUCH OF MONEY BECAUSE THEY DID ALL THESE GREEN THINGS.
BUT NOW IT'S ENDED 2025 AND IT'S STILL NOT BUILT.
WOULDN'T IT HAVE, HAVE BEEN BETTER IF, LET'S SAY YOU JUST PUT SOLAR PANELS ON THE THING AND IT COSTS MAYBE $600,000 A UNIT, AND IT WAS BUILT SO THAT PEOPLE COULD BE TAKING THE TRAIN.
THAT'S MY MAIN POINT OF ALL THIS.
WE CAN'T HAVE EVERY PROJECT BE PERFECT.
AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT, YOU'RE GONNA NEED TO DO THINGS LIKE GIVE UP SOME OF THESE, THESE GREEN ASPECTS TO SAY, NOPE, BUILD IT TO CODE.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GIVE UP SOME PUBLIC INPUT.
DO WE CARE MORE ABOUT PUBLIC INPUT? OR DO WE CARE ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING GETTING BUILT SO PEOPLE THAT CAN'T AFFORD HOUSING, GET HOUSING? THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF HARD DECISIONS WE HAVE TO MAKE AS A CITY IN ORDER TO MEET OUR GOALS.
ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE GONNA BE IMPERFECT.
THIS, THIS SITE IS GONNA HAVE WRAPAROUND SERVICES TO HELP THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE HOUSED.
COULD WE HAVE GIVEN THAT WRAPAROUND SERVICES UP, WOULD THAT HAVE BEEN A TRADE OFF WE'RE WILLING TO MAKE? THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF QUESTIONS I WANT TO ASK.
AND IF THE COMMISSION FEELS LIKE THAT'S TOO MUCH, THAT'S LIKE OUTSIDE OF OUR, YOU KNOW, OUT OF BOUNDS, I UNDERSTAND IT.
BUT WE'RE HERE AS A COMMISSION TO ADVISE THE CITY ON HOW TO MEET OUR CLIMATE ACTION GOALS.
AND WE'RE NOT GONNA MEET OUR CLIMATE ACTION GOALS IF IT TAKES 10 YEARS TO DEVELOP DENSE HOUSING BY TRAIN STATIONS AND HAVE THOSE, THOSE PROJECTS BE ABSOLUTELY PERFECT EVERY SINGLE TIME.
UM, SO WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THOSE THINGS, AND WE NEED TO ADVISE THE CITY ON HOW TO MAKE SOME TOUGH CHOICES.
SO THAT'S, THAT WAS MY INTENT.
NO, I MEAN, THAT'S
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DEALS, YOU KNOW, INVOLVING THE SWAP AND ALL THAT.THAT'S, I MEAN, TO THE EXTENT THE PROJECT WAS DELAYED, MY UNDERSTANDING IT WAS DELAYED WAS STATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TAX CREDIT ALLOCATION, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS A SYSTEMIC PROBLEM AT THE STATE AND AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, UH, TO THE EXTENT THE CITY DOES HAVE PURVIEW OVER TAX CREDIT AND TAX CREDIT ALLOCATIONS, THERE IS A MECHANISM THERE IN OUR HOUSING DEPARTMENT.
UM, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SEE A NEXUS BETWEEN LIKE, UM, SOME OF THE MORE ROUTINE THINGS THE CITY HAS DONE IS RE AUTHORIZE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FINANCING PROJECTS, LIKE THE PEP HOUSING PROJECT WHERE THEY WERE ABLE TO DO HEAT PUMPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
YOU KNOW, WAS THAT A TRADE OFF BETWEEN THAT AND THE PETALUMA NORTH STATION MOVING FORWARD? YOU KNOW, THAT'S, TO ME, YOU COULD POSSIBLY PRIORITIZE, LIKE, WE'RE GONNA PRIORITIZE OUR SCARCE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING RESOURCES TOWARDS THE MOST CLIMATE IMPACTFUL PROJECTS.
I COULD SEE THAT BEING AN INTERESTING USE OF THE AD HOC, BUT AGAIN, TO THE EXTENT THAT PROJECT IS, UH, EXAMPLE OF THE CITY, UM, THAT NOT BEING NECESSARILY INSIDE ITS CONTROL, AT LEAST THE, THE TAX CREDIT PART.
GETTING THESE ENTITLEMENTS TAKES FOREVER.
WHY TAKE ONE SECOND MORE THAN YOU NEED TO? AND THE PEOPLE THAT AREN'T IN THIS ROOM FOR ME, AND THIS IS AGAIN, NOT DIRECT TO YOU, BUT LIKE THE PEOPLE THAT CAN'T AFFORD HOUSING, RIGHT? WE'RE IN THIS HOUSING CRISIS, WE'RE IN A CLIMATE CRISIS.
WE, EVERYTHING THAT ISN'T ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY TO GET THAT HOUSING BUILT SHOULDN'T GET ADDED IN MY VIEW, BECAUSE YEAH, I, I, I THINK WE COULD MOVE ON.
LIKE, I JUST DISAGREE THAT THAT EXAMPLE HAS ANY DELAYS CAUSED BY ADDITIONS OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
I, I DID TALK, I TAUGHT YOU, I MEAN, THAT'S WHY, AND THAT'S WHY IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT HERE, OR, OR AT LEAST FOR ME, TO US TO EXPLORE THAT AS AN AD HOC WITH COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
AND MAYBE I'M WRONG, MAYBE I'M WRONG.
MAYBE THAT'S NOT WHAT DELAYED IT AT ALL.
I COULD BE TOTALLY WRONG, BUT I WANNA FIND OUT, BECAUSE IT WAS VERY CLEAR WHEN I TALKED TO, UH, TO DANKO THAT THOSE THINGS DID ADD DELAY, AND THOSE THINGS DID ADD COST.
IT, THERE'S JUST NO WAY YOU'RE GONNA GET THE PERFECT HOUSING WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE GONNA BASICALLY HAVE TO TRADE OFF TIME OR MONEY AGAIN.
WE CANNOT BUILD THE TYPE OF HOUSING WE NEED TO BUILD AT $770,000 A UNIT.
IF YOU LOOK INTO THE COST OF WHY IT COSTS THAT MUCH TO BUILD IT, IT IS NOT BECAUSE OF THE TAX CREDIT, RIGHT? IT'S BECAUSE OF ALL THESE THINGS WE'VE ADDED INTO THE HOUSING TO MAKE IT PERFECT.
AND THAT RESULTS IN NOT HAS H AND THAT RESULTS IN A, IN A, YOU KNOW, A DERELICT LOT THAT ISN'T BUILT YET.
SO THAT'S WHY I WANT TO PURSUE THIS.
AND, AND YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE ARE PROBABLY PARTS OF THIS THAT I'M GETTING WRONG, BUT I WANNA FIND OUT.
WELL, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THAT'S AN EXAMPLE AND THAT THERE MAY BE OTHER, OTHER INEFFICIENCIES THAT COULD BE YEAH.
THAT COULD BE SURFACED AND, YOU KNOW, MIGHT HAVE SOLUTIONS.
I'M ALSO NOT ASKING FOR THE CITY TO COMPLETELY REVAMP EVERYTHING I'M ASKING FOR.
LIKE, GIVE US THREE THINGS THAT YOU THINK COULD BE EASILY DONE THAT WE COULD, YOU KNOW, SUGGEST TO COUNCIL THAT WOULD BE HOPEFULLY NOT SUPER CONTROVERSIAL, AND, UH, HELP THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, HELP THE NEXT, UH, IF IT'S NOT HOUSING, IT COULD BE SOMETHING, SOME OTHER CLIMATE GOAL THAT WE HAVE.
UM, SO I GUESS THE QUESTION THEN IS ARE WE FORMING ONE OR MORE ADDITIONAL AD HOCS? ARE WE GOING TO, IS IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE WANNA DO? AND IF SO, WHICH ONES? I GUESS I'LL JUST ADDRESS THE, THE ROUND TABLE ONE.
I'M, I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED A WHOLE AD HOC FOR IT, BUT, UM, WE COULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, LIKE I'M HAPPY TO DO A BUNCH OF THEM.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY THEY'RE PLANNING ON BEING, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THE OTHER AD HOCS MIGHT WANT TO BE, MIGHT NEED HELP FACILITATING ROUNDTABLE STUFF.
AND, AND SO THEN, YOU KNOW, I CAN HELP DO THAT BY WORKING WITH SOME OF THE COMMUNITY GROUPS MAYBE.
UM, SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED A WHOLE WORKING GROUP, BUT THAT'S, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT WOULD BE REALLY USEFUL.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE COOL PETALUMA ROUNDTABLE? UM, NOT JUST ABOUT, NOT ONLY THAT, BUT JUST LIKE COMMUNITY.
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THAT WOULD BE ONE EXAMPLE.BUT THERE'S, YOU'RE SAYING OTHER, SO OTHER POSSIBILITIES.
COULD YOU GIVE US SOME EXAMPLES? RIGHT.
THEY'LL BE THREE TIMES A YEAR, WHOOPS.
THREE TIMES A YEAR, UH, IS HOW THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA BE.
UH, FOR THIS NEXT ONE, YES, THE TOPIC HAPPENS TO BE A TOPIC THAT IS A CLIMATE ACTION, WHICH IS, UH, HAS A VERY SHORT RUNWAY, WHICH IS OUR, UH, REBATES AND INCENTIVES ARE GOING AWAY DECEMBER 31ST.
AND WE NEED TO GET THE PUBLIC EDUCATED KNOW WHERE OF WHAT THEY CAN DO BETWEEN NOW AND THEN, AND WHAT THEY CAN DO AFTER.
AND SO IT, IT DOES FEEL LIKE A, AN AD HOC TOPIC THAT YOU GUYS WOULD WANT.
IT FITS INTO YOUR MAIN, UM, PURVIEW, WHICH IS EDUCATING THE PUBLIC, UH, AND, UH, HELP DRIVE THAT CONVERSATION SO THAT IT IS BEING ONE THAT IS USEFUL AND, UH, UH, CONNECTING ALL THE RESOURCES THAT YOU ALL KNOW OF, UM, IF THAT'S A TOPIC.
SO IT WAS, IT WAS MORE THAT YOU ALL CONSIDER BEING A PART OF THOSE, LIKE ANN BAKER DOING, UM, SHE'S GONNA HELP ON THE CLIENT, ON THE CARBON GARDEN ONE.
UM, IT, IT IS THE WAY TO HIT YOUR MAIN, UH, WHAT'S THE WORD? I, I USE THAT, WHAT'S THE WORD? DO YOU GUYS, WHY YOU GUYS ARE FORMED
UH, THIS IS THE WAY TO REALLY HELP US HELP THE PUBLIC, UM, BY SUPPORTING THESE, UH, ROUND TABLES WHERE YOU'D BE GUIDING THE DISCUSSION OF THE COMMUNITY GROUPS THAT PARTICIPATE IN THAT ROUND TABLE.
THERE'S 50 PLUS PEOPLE THAT ATTEND ON A REGULAR BASIS.
UM, AND HAVING THAT GROUP START REALLY GETTING INTO ACTION WITH, UH, THE ACTIONS UNDER THE ROUND TABLE IS, UH, WHAT WE'RE WORKING THAT TO BECOME, IS TO BE WORKING GROUPS SO THAT EVERYONE FEELS THAT THEY CAN CONTRIBUTE THEIR PARTS AND PIECES TO IT.
AND YOU GUYS PROVIDE THE LEADERSHIP, UH, IS THE IDEA THAT ONE PARTICULAR TOPIC DOES HAPPEN TO HAVE A SHORTER RUN, UH, BECAUSE OF THE DECEMBER 31ST.
UH, AND THERE'LL BE A JANUARY ROUND TABLE WILL BE THE NEXT 1ST OF FEBRUARY, I THINK, IS WHERE, UH, WE DECIDED JANUARY, FEBRUARY.
I'M NOT, I THINK IT MIGHT BE THE LAST THURSDAY IN FEB OR JANUARY, AND THEN ANOTHER ONE IN MAY.
AND SO THAT WE CONTINUE, IF THERE'S THINGS THAT HAVE LONGER RUNWAYS, WE CAN KEEP, UH, ENGAGING THE PUBLIC TO, OR THE COMMUNITY PARTNERS, CLIMATE READY FOLKS, UH, UH, WITH THE LEADERSHIP THAT'S NEEDED.
THAT'S REALLY THE THING THAT, UH, IS, IS NEEDED, UM, IS TO GET OUR COMMUNITY TO BE A PART OF THE CONVERSATION AND TO START WORKING ON THESE GOALS WITH US, UH, SO THAT IT'S NOT JUST CITY STAFF AND NOT JUST THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THINGS WE NEED TO WORK ON NEXT.
IT'S, IT'S ACTIVATE OUR COMMUNITY AROUND, UH, PROJECTS THAT WE NEED TO LAUNCH AND EDUCATE THEM ON AND, UH, COORDINATE WITH.
AND SO THAT WAS THE SUGGESTION IS ONE OF THE THINGS FOR YOU GUYS TO CONSIDER.
UM, YEAH, I THINK HALF, AT LEAST HALF OF US IN THIS ROOM ARE FREQUENT FLYERS.
SO WE WE'RE THERE, WE'RE ALL PARTICIPATING.
UH, AND WE ARE HAVING LOTS OF EVENTS PUT ON BY THE VARIOUS NONPROFITS AND LIKE, SO, UM, I THINK WE'RE ALREADY THERE, UH, FOR THE MOST PART.
AND WE HAVE NATASHA, UH, WRITING, UM, UH, EDITORIALS IN THERE, IN THE PAPER, AND WE DO HAVE ARTICLES IN THE PAPER, UH, PRETTY CONSISTENTLY NOW.
SO, UM, IT'S A MATTER OF HOW MUCH, LIKE, LIKE PR AND COMMUNICATIONS RELATIONS, BUT DO WE REALLY WANT TO HAVE AN AD HOC TO, TO SEE IF, WHERE WE CAN PLUG IN AND, AND THEN HAVE VOLUNTEERS TO GO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT COVERAGE AND EVERYTHING? DO WE REALLY WANNA ORGANIZE SOMETHING OR JUST KEEP FORWARD? ORGANIZING WORKING GROUPS IS REALLY WHAT THE ASK IS, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU GUYS TRIED TO DO HERE.
AND SO IT'S, IT'S NOW REALLY TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO, AGAIN, FOR YOU ALL TO DO YOUR MAIN, UH, UH, GUIDING PRINCIPLE IS WHAT THE WORD I WANNA USE FOR WHAT YOU WERE DESIGNED TO DO ONCE THE BLUEPRINT WAS, UH, PASSED, IS TO EDUCATE, IS IS YOUR MAIN ITEM.
AND THAT'S THE ONE I REALLY THINK THAT YOU GUYS COULD OFFER A LOT OF ASSISTANCE ON USING YOUR EXPERTISE TO GUIDE WORKING GROUPS TO ACTUALLY HELP US IMPLEMENT.
UM, CAN YOU EXPLAIN, SORRY, CAN YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE? WHEN YOU SAY WORKING GROUPS, UM, WHAT IS, UH, IS THAT, WHO'S ORGANIZING THESE WORKING GROUPS? WELL, ME WITH YOU GUYS,
I MEAN, LIKE WHEN YOU, OKAY, SO, SO I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.
SO, SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE LIKE COOL PETALUMA MM-HMM
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THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, IT, IT ORGANIZES THIS EFFORT TO GET PEOPLE INVOLVED.IT DOES IT WITH IT AS A GROUP EFFORT.
IT'S NOT JUST COOL PETALUMA, THERE'S, YEAH.
YOU GOT BLUE ZONE, YOU GOT, YOU GOT YOU'RE STAFF, YOU GOT EVERYBODY, RIGHT.
BUT I, WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS LIKE, LIKE I'M HAPPY TO HELP ATTEND AN EVENT AND GUIDE PEOPLE ON HOW TO ELECTRIFY THEIR HOME.
IT WOULD BE PUTTING TOGETHER A CAMPAIGN OF HOW DO WE GO OUT AND, UH, REALLY, UH, GO TO THE PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THE CHOIR, UM, AND THE PEOPLE YEAH.
BECAUSE NOT EVERYONE READS THE PAPER.
AND SO REALLY KIND OF GOING TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO, HOW DO WE GET TO PEOPLE THAT DON'T READ THE ARGUS COURIER OR, UH, DON'T GET THE, THE COOL PETALUMA NEWSLETTER.
HOW DO WE GET THEM TO COME TO A WORKSHOP WHERE THEY CAN LEARN ABOUT THE WAYS THAT THEY CAN STILL UTILIZE THE REBATES? THAT'S AN EXAMPLE.
UM, BUT THOSE ARE THE REAL CHALLENGES MUCH IN MY OPINION, MUCH WHAT THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE IS.
HOW DO WE GET ALL OF THAT TO HAPPEN OUT IN OUR COMMUNITY AND LEAD THAT DISCUSSION WITH OUR ORGANIZATIONS THAT ALSO HAVE MISSIONS TO GET OUT? IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A COLLABORATION OPPORTUNITY, UM, AND AN EDUCATION OPPORTUNITY.
AND, AND IT'S JUST A SUGGESTION WE CAN, IT WAS, THIS TOPIC'S COME UP IN A COUPLE DIFFERENT COMMITTEES I'VE, I'VE PARTICIPATED IN, UM, AND, UH, UM, BECAUSE IT'S THE REACH OUT AND THERE WAS, THERE WAS ALL THE FOLKS THAT ARE ENGAGED, AND WE HAVE LIKE 20 TO 30% OF THE CITY IS REALLY ENGAGED IN DOING THINGS, BUT THERE'S STILL LIKE OVER 50% THAT ARE LIKE, UM, SOMETIME ARE, ARE TOO BUSY, OR, AND THE, THE ONLY REAL ANSWER THAT I'VE HEARD THAT, THAT MIGHT WORK, THAT WE STILL NEED TO WORK ON WAS ACTUALLY GOING OUT TO THE COMMUNITIES.
I KNOW RIGHT NOW, RELIEF IS GOING AROUND AND, AND BY SUB LITTLE GROUPS EVERY WEEKEND THEY'RE GOING OUT TO A SMALL SET OF HOUSING AREA AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY WALKING AGAIN, THEY'RE, THEY'RE WALKING THE DOORS AND PUTTING OUT PAMPHLETS AND ASKING, DO YOU WANT A TREE? SO WE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE CONTINUING THAT PROCESS AND GETTING SOME POSITIVE FEEDBACK.
UM, WE NEED TO DO MORE OF THAT SOMEHOW.
UH, WHETHER IT BE, UM, STARTING, AND THIS IS ALL THE, ALL THE SEVERAL COMMITTEES, UH, ACROSS THE BOARD, THE ENTIRE CITY AS TO GET THE WHOLE MESSAGE OUT.
'CAUSE WE HAVE THE GENERAL PLAN COMING.
WE REALLY NEED TO GET THIS MESSAGE OUT ENTIRELY, UM, AND NOT JUST HAVE ONE THING AT THE FAIRGROUNDS, BUT WE NEED TO GO TO THE COMMUNITIES, TO EVERY SINGLE PARK IF IT'S NECESSARY.
AND WE TABLE IT EVERY SINGLE PARK, AND WE'D ORGANIZE IT, AND WE JUST ROTATE ALL AROUND THE ENTIRE CITY, EVERY SINGLE PARK.
THEN SAYS, HERE'S WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE CITY.
AND THEN US AND ALL THE OTHER COMMITTEES WOULD HAVE MEMBERS THERE, UH, TO DO THINGS HERE.
HERE'S WHAT THE CITY IS DOING.
SO THAT PERSONAL OUTREACH, WHICH IS PUBLICIZED AND ADVERTISED, THERE'S A, UM, FOR THAT LOCAL, EVEN IF THERE'S A, A MAILER THAT GOES OUT, HEY, BY THE WAY, ON THIS DAY, ON THIS SATURDAY OR SUNDAY, THERE'S GOING TO BE A, HEY, A A WHOLE, UH, LOTS OF FOLKS ARE GONNA BE SHOWING UP HERE TO TALK ABOUT OUR CITY, COME JOIN AND, AND TALK TO US ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON, UH, TYPE THING.
UM, AND THEN, SO EVERY TIME I'VE GONE TO A, A LOCAL MEETING, LIKE RIGHT NOW, RAINIER, WE DID, THEY JUST DID RIGHT THERE.
AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF FOLKS SHOWED UP.
AND SO WE JUST NEED TO DO THAT IN EVERY SINGLE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, AS A CITY FOR LOTS OF TOPICS, NOT JUST CLIMATE ACTION.
SO, UM, IN THIS CASE, WE STICK TO OUR, OUR, UH, COMMUNITY, UH, TOPICS, BUT YES, YES.
UH, WE NEED TO HAVE, EXPAND THAT, BUT CAN, CAN WE GET, UM, THROUGH THE CITY STAFF, GET THAT COMMUNICATED TO ALL THE COMMITTEES AND SAY, HEY, CAN WE, AS A WHOLE UNIT, COMMITTEES AND STAFF TO GET TOGETHER AND SAY, CAN WE DO SOMETHING, DO THIS PHYSICAL PERSON, PERSON TO PERSON OUTREACH? IS THAT, CAN WE, ARE WE CAPABLE OF DOING THAT? I KNOW FOR THE FAIR ROUNDS STAFF REALLY KICKED IN, COULD WE DO THAT AGAIN WITH COMMUNITY PARKS AND MEETINGS? I'M, I'M NOT YOU.
WHAT? WHAT DO YOU MEAN? AT THE FAIRGROUNDS, WHEN YOU, WELL, AT THE, WELL, WE, WE RAN THE FAIR.
AND STAFF KICKED IN NIGHTS, WEEKENDS, THEY WERE THERE THE WHOLE TIME.
UM, BUT SO THE COMMITTEE FOR THE COMMITTEES TO SHOW UP, WE ALSO NEED AT LEAST ONE STAFF PERSON TO BE ALSO TABLING THERE AND HELP COMMUNICATE, UH, MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S GOING WELL.
UM, SO GET THAT OFF A PERSON TO PERSON OUTREACH NEEDS BOTH US COMMITTEES AND, AND STAFF TO WORK TOGETHER AS A TEAM.
AND WE NEED TO DO THAT IN OUR 40 PLUS PARKS.
UM, COULD WE ORGANIZE THAT BETWEEN STAFF, ALL THE STAFF THAT THAT WORKS WITH ALL THE COMMITTEES AND SO THAT WE ALL KIND OF PARTICIPATE TOGETHER AND, AND KIND OF ORGANIZE IT? IS THAT POSSIBLE TO ORGANIZE EVENTS AT PARKS? ALL 40, ALL 40 PLUS PARKS? WELL, THAT WOULD, I THINK YOU MEAN LIKE TO HAVE PEOPLE GOING OUT AND TALKING TO PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THIS STUFF? YEAH, ABOUT THE MM-HMM
THE CLIMATE ACTION ITEMS THAT WERE GREAT ALSO WOULD BE THE PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD NEED BE PARTICIPATING.
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COMMITTEE WOULD BE THE BIKE, UH, UH, THE PS.UM, SO ALL THE COMMITTEES FOLKS WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT ALL THE CITY STUFF THAT WE'RE DOING.
I KNOW THAT'S GONNA BE HARD, BUT WE HAVE THE GENERAL PLANNERS COMING AND I, THAT THAT GOES OUT TO A VOTE, DOESN'T IT? I THINK TO THE PEOPLE AT ONE POINT, OR IS IT JUST STRICTLY A COUNCIL? I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE GENERAL PLAN.
I, I BELIEVE IT'S COUNCIL, I DON'T COUNCIL ONLY ON THAT.
BUT SO IT, WE, TO GET THE CITY SUPPORT, I'M, I'M TALKING ABOUT BETWEEN NOW AND, UH, AND A YEAR AND A HALF FROM NOW, WE NEED TO HAVE, UH, THE CITY INFORMED AND, AND UP TO SPEED.
'CAUSE THIS IS A HUGE TRANSFORMATION THAT WE'RE DOING.
SO OUTREACH IS SUPER IMPORTANT, BASICALLY.
HEARING FROM THE LIKE COM COMMUNICATING, LISTENING IS SUPER IMPORTANT FOR, AND THE ONLY WAY I CAN SEE IT REALLY HAPPENING WELL, IS IS ONE-ON-ONE WITH THE PEOPLE IN AROUND THE CITY, ALL AROUND THE CITY WHERE THEY ARE NOT WHERE WE ARE.
THAT'S THE ONLY, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN PROPOSED SEVERAL TIMES BY EVERYBODY SAYING THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT THEY THINK MIGHT WORK TO DO TO THE, I MEAN, TO GET THE 80% INFILTRATION THAT EVERYONE'S INFORMED.
I, I, I MEAN, I AM ALL FOR PEER TO PEER DOOR.
I'VE DONE IT, DONE IT DOOR KNOCKING IN MY TIME.
UH, I JUST, I HAVE LIKE, WE GOTTA HAVE SOMETHING LIKE VERY DISCREET THAT IF WE'RE GONNA, IF YOU'RE GONNA ASK US TO GIVE UP OUR EVENINGS AND GO DOOR KNOCKING, LIKE I'VE GOT A FULL-TIME JOB, YOU KNOW, AND OTHER STUFF GOING ON, IT WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO BE SOMETHING LIKE PRETTY DISCREET, RIGHT? LIKE ONE THING, RIGHT? I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT DOOR KNOCK.
I'M TALKING ABOUT, UM, AT, AT THE PARKS WE HAVE LOTS, LOTS OF LITTLE PARKS.
SO AT A PARK, THERE WOULD BE AN EVENT FOR TWO HOURS.
WAIT, SORRY, I'M JUST GONNA INTERRUPT THE CONVERSATION BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE'RE OFF TOPIC HERE.
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO RIGHT NOW IS DECIDE WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO CREATE OTHER AD HOCS BESIDES THE TWO THAT WE ALREADY CREATED.
SO THE CHOICES ARE TDM, THE, THE SORT OF TOPICS THAT HAVE RISEN TO THE TOP TDM AND THE ROUND TABLE, THIS ROUND TABLE DISCUSSION AND GETTING RID OF THE RED TAPE AND ALL, OR NONE OF THEM CAN BE, UH, AND AD HOC.
SO DOES ANYBODY WANNA MAKE A MOTION FOR SOME KIND OF PLAN MOVING FORWARD? UM, WE ALREADY, I THINK, UH, WELL WE HAVE A, A, AN EV WHICH IS ALSO PARTLY BASICALLY THE TDM, RIGHT? I I THINK THAT WAS A SEPARATE ONE.
IS THAT SEPARATE OR, OR SIMILAR? THOSE ARE, THEY ARE OVERLAPPING, BUT I THINK THEY'RE SEPARATE AD HOCS.
UM, WELL WITH, UH, CARS AND TRANSPORTATION BEING THE NUMBER ONE THING WE NEED TO ATTACK, THAT MIGHT BE THE THING THAT WE NEED TO WORK ON THE MOST.
'CAUSE EVERYTHING ELSE IS SECONDARY TO THAT.
SO IS THAT A MOTION I OPPORTUNITY TO JOIN THE AD? I DON'T KNOW.
WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT, BUT YEAH, THAT ALREADY EXISTS.
THE TDM, THE TD M1, I MEAN, JOHN, YOU COULD ALSO JOIN, WE COULD MEET ON THAT.
AND THEN THE NEXT TOPIC, I GUESS, OR JUST EXPAND THE PURVIEW.
I GUESS THE T DM THING, IT'S, I WOULD PREFER MAYBE TO JUST, I WILL PERSONALLY PROPOSE BRING AT THE NEXT MEETING SOME COMMENTS ON IT IN THE COMMISSION, COMMENT ON THE TOPIC.
UM, AND THEN MAYBE WE CAN TALK ABOUT AN AD HOC FROM THERE.
I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO MAKE ONE, UH, AT THIS JUNCTURE.
UH, I WILL SAY ON THE RED TAPE ONE, YOU KNOW, AFTER HEARING THE BACK AND FORTH AND REFLECTING ON IT, I, TO ME THE NEXUS IS LIKE THE GENERAL PLAN DISCUSSION, I GUESS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER SHRIMPS IS BRINGING UP.
UM, TO ME, I GUESS I WOULD LIKE TO BE LIGHTLY INFORMED ON THE PROGRESS AND TIMELINE OF THE GENERAL PLAN, SUCH THAT IF, IF AN AD HOC ABOUT THE CLIMATE ELEMENTS OF THE GENERAL PLAN WERE TO MAKE SENSE THAT THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY BACKGROUND TO FORM THAT.
TO ME, WHEN I HEAR THE RED TAPE THING, MOST OF THE CONVERSATION I HEARD WAS AROUND GENERAL PLAN ITEMS, WHICH IS TOTALLY FAIR.
AND THERE'S A WHOLE EIR RIGHT NOW ABOUT THE GENERAL PLAN AND ALL THE CLIMATE IMPACTS.
YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE VERY RELEVANT.
UH, BUT TO ME, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF THAT INFORMATION TO INFORM IF AN AD HOC RELATED TO THAT BROAD TOPIC HAD, UH, NECESSARY CLIMATE
SO I GUESS I DIDN'T REMEMBER THAT WE ALREADY FORMED THE TD M1.
WE FORMED THE TDM LAST WEEK, LAST MONTH.
YOU SAID EV EV YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.
BUT I THOUGHT YOU SAID IT ALREADY HAPPENED JUST NOW.
WHAT ELSE? WHAT YOU SAID? NO, NO, NO, NO.
SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE BASICALLY WHAT I'M HEARING IS YOU DON'T WANNA MAKE A MOTION TO CREATE A TDM 'CAUSE YOU WANNA JUST BRING SOMETHING ELSE.
YEAH, YOU WANNA JUST DO YOUR OWN STUFF, YOU KNOW, LIKE THIS IS WHAT OUR TDM POLICY IS, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO TALK ABOUT
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BEFORE WE LIKE MAKE A DECISION ABOUT IT.SO I THINK ALL OF US ARE AT MOST 10% LEVEL OF KNOWLEDGE ON WHAT THE EXISTENCE OF OUR POLICY IS.
TDM POLICY FOR FUTURE ITEMS, I'LL WRITE THAT DOWN.
THAT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE JUST GONNA STICK WITH OUR TWO AD HOCS THEN.
AND I'M HAPPY TO HELP WITH THE ROUND TABLE ORGANIZING AS LIKE A REPRESENTATIVE AND YEAH, HAPPY TO HELP ONCE THE TIME COMES DOOR KNOCKING AND BEING IN, UH, HELPING ON ADVISING PEOPLE HOW TO USE TAX CREDITS AND OTHER INCENTIVES, THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
SO, YOU KNOW, PERFECTLY WILLING TO HELP.
SO THIS IS A NON-VOTING ITEM, RIGHT? WE DON'T VOTE IF WE'RE NOT CREATING IT.
YEAH, YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T HAVE TO VOTE IF THERE'S NO ACTION TO VOTE ON.
UM, BUT I WOULD SAY I WOULD JUST REMIND EVERYBODY, UM, WHO'S IN THE EV AND CARBON GARDENING.
UM, WHO IS, IS ANYBODY WITH ANNE IN THE CARBON GARDENING? YEAH, IT WAS PRAV AND, OKAY.
UM, I WOULD JUST REMIND EVERYBODY TO COME WITH, UM, ACTIONABLE TIMEFRAME, SOME KIND OF GOAL THAT'S ADVISORY IN NATURE.
UM, AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IS ALSO REALLY HELPFUL FOR THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO, AND FOR THE COUNCIL TO BE ABLE TO MAKE, UM, PROGRESS ON STUFF BECAUSE THEY CAN POINT TO IT AND SAY, WELL, THIS IS WHAT, YOU KNOW, THEY, CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION FORMED AN AD HOC, THEY TALKED TO ALL THESE PEOPLE IN THESE DIFFERENT WAYS AND DID THIS OUTREACH AND LEARNED THIS INFORMATION.
AND IT'S SUPER HELPFUL TO BACK THEM UP SO THAT, LIKE YOU SAID, DURING ONE MEETING, YOU KNOW, HAVE THEM YELLING AT US INSTEAD OF THE, THE, UM, COUNCIL.
UM, SO IT'S JUST HELPING THEM TO IMPLEMENT THE STUFF THAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO IMPLEMENT
SO GO OUT TO THE PARKS, THEY CAN DEAL AT US.
SO, UH, PART OF THAT IS LIKE, UM, WHAT WE HAVE HERE, THE, THE BLUEPRINT AGAIN, UM, WITH THE, WITH THAT, ALL THAT ALSO, LIKE THAT ROUND TABLE BE, UM, LIKE A SUMMARY THAT GETS OUT OF, OF WHAT THE BLUEPRINT LOOK LIKE.
THERE'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT, BUT MAYBE SOME PR COMMUNICATIONS NEED TO GO OUT ABOUT ALL THIS.
IS THAT PART OF THAT ROUND TABLE? UH, THE, UH, THE COMMUNICATIONS, THE WRITING, GETTING SOMETHING IN THE NEWSPAPER.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ON THE AGENDA, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY A, AN IDEA TO DISCUSS.
I'M NOT, I HAVEN'T BEEN A PART OF THAT PLANNING, SO I DON'T KNOW, BUT NO, IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA YET, BUT I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
IT IS NOT, IT, IT, THE SENSE IS THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DONE AT EVERY SINGLE ONE, AND THIS ONE IS ACTUALLY GETTING TO ACTION AROUND, UH, PROJECTS.
SO IT'S NOT GONNA BE A SHARING OUT AGAIN OF WHAT'S BEEN DONE.
IT TAKES ALMOST THE WHOLE MEETING BY THE TIME IT'S DONE, AND THEN THEY DON'T ACTUALLY GET TO THE ACTION PART, ACTION PART, SO, RIGHT.
IT JUST, BUT MAYBE ONCE A YEAR OR SOMETHING.
BUT JUST PART AS THE ROUND TWO BE THINKING ABOUT COMMUNICATIONS IN GENERAL IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
JUST GETTING THE WORD OUT ON EVERYTHING.
I THINK WE'RE READY TO CLOSE THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING.
[COMMISSION COMMENT]
COMMISSION COMMENTS.MEMBERS ARE INVITED TO BRIEFLY SHARE UPDATES RELEVANT TO THIS COMMISSION, INCLUDING LIAISON REPORTS FROM OTHER CITY BODIES, BODIES, AND MAKE REQUESTS FOR FUTURE ADD AGENDA ITEMS. DIALOGUE BETWEEN MEMBERS SHOULD BE LIMITED TO CLARIFYING QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS.
THERE WILL BE NO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.
UM, IS THERE ANY COMMISSION COMMENT? ALRIGHT, FIRST PART WAS JUST POINT OF ORDER TO, PART OF THE AGENDA WAS THE, UH, SUBCOMMITTEE, THE AD HOC, IS THERE A REPORT OUT? I THOUGHT THAT WAS PART OF THE AGENDA.
OR THIS ONE? I THINK IT'S THIS ONE WHERE IT IS A LIAISON, RIGHT? IS THAT WHERE THE CATEGORY FITS IN? I MEAN, IT, IT WAS ON AGENDA, SO IT'S, THAT WAS GREAT.
YOU KNOW, I, I THINK WE CREATED AN AD HOC, AND AS A COMMISSION MEMBER AND A MEMBER OF THAT AD HOC AND THE LIAISON TO IT, I THINK THIS IS A, AN APPROPRIATELY AGENDIZED ITEM, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
UM, SO THE EV AD HOC, UH, MOST OF US MET, SORRY, I COULDN'T MAKE THAT HAPPEN TO COORDINATE WITH YOU.
UM, THE GOAL FOR THIS DISCUSSION, I GUESS, AT LEAST FOR ME, AND HOPEFULLY FOR THIS GROUP, IS TO DISTILL WHAT OUR REPORT OUT IS INTO ONE, POSSIBLY TWO ITEMS THAT WE COULD AGENDIZE HOPEFULLY AT THE NEXT MEETING TO AT LEAST HAVE A BRIEF REPORT ON.
AND POSSIBLY SOME ACTIONS AROUND, I'LL SAY MAYBE MORE LIKE DIRECTION THAN ACTIONS.
SO AGAIN, JUST SUMMARIZE, LIKE, LET'S PICK SOMETHING THAT WE COULD MAYBE PROVIDE VERY CONCRETE DIRECTION TO WITH THAT DIRECTION, BOTH BEING TO THE STAFF AND THEN TO OUR CITY COUNCIL LIAISON.
UH, SO THE FIRST BROAD TOPIC IS EV INFRASTRUCTURE.
UH, TOP OF THAT LIST IS PROMOTING OR ENCOURAGING LEVEL ONE CHARGING IE ONE 20 VOLT
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PLUGS.SO THERE'S A WHOLE CONVERSATION AROUND THAT, UH, THAT QUICKLY DOVETAILED INTO, UM, OUR CURRENT PLANNING CODE, WHAT'S IN OUR PLANNING CODE, IS THAT ADEQUATE? DOES THAT NEED TO BE UPDATED? AND THERE'S A WHOLE PLANNING CONVERSATION AROUND THAT.
UM, TO THE EXTENT THAT LIKE, WE DON'T HAVE A TON OF NEW DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW, THAT'S ACTUALLY MAYBE LOWER PRIORITY ON THE LIST.
UM, WE DIDN'T FOCUS ON IT AS MUCH, BUT LIKE IDENTIFYING WHERE NEW LEVEL ONE INFRASTRUCTURE ON CITY OWNED PROPERTY COULD BE DEPLOYED, YOU KNOW, FOR LEVEL ONE CHARGING IS LIKE A PARKING GARAGE.
LIKE A PARKING, LIKE, HEY, YOU KNOW, LET'S DO AN INVENTORY OF ALL THE CITY OWNED LEVEL ONE PLUGS, AND MAYBE THEY'RE THAT RESULT IN SOMETHING.
SO THERE'S, THAT'S PART OF THE LEVEL ONE THING IS LIKE A LEVEL ONE RABBIT HUNT OF CITY PLUGS AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE GET A COUPLE PLUGS OUT OF THAT NEAR SOME APARTMENT BUILDINGS.
AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE A HUGE WIN ACTUALLY.
UM, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER PART OF THE EV INFRASTRUCTURE SUBTOPIC WAS AROUND EV INFRASTRUCTURE FOR APARTMENT BUILDINGS.
UM, THERE IS A WHOLE WRITE UP, A COUPLE PAGE MAYBE FROM THE PREVIOUS REPORT OUT OF LIKE THE ONE THAT ME AND ANNE WERE ON THAT HAS THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE STRATEGY THAT TALKS ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF, UH, FOCUSING ON, UH, LEVEL ONE AND LEVEL TWO CHARGING AT APARTMENT BUILDINGS AND WHAT THE CITY CAN DO THERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S STILL MOSTLY AN IDEA AND THERE'S GOOD IDEAS AROUND THE, WHAT THE CITY CAN DO, BUT, UM, THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF CONSTRAINTS AND, YOU KNOW, BANDWIDTH AROUND LIKE, WHAT CAN THE CITY ACTUALLY DO RELATED TO EXISTING, YOU KNOW, LOW COMPARTMENTS AND ALL THAT.
SO, YOU KNOW, BUT IF THAT'S LIKE A, THE GROUP'S, YOU KNOW, HOT ITEM, LIKE THERE IS PLENTY TO DO THERE ON THAT TOPIC.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, LESS SO, BUT STILL RELATED.
AND YOU KNOW, DAVE, YOU'LL REMEMBER THIS FROM, UH, MAYBE EVEN A MORE THAN A YEAR AGO, BUT LIKE OUR EXISTING LEVEL TWO INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH IS NOW, YOU KNOW, BROKEN AND DEFUNCT, WE HAD CHANGED OUR POLICY TO, TO ALLOW FOR, TO REQUIRE THAT LIKE NEW LEVEL TWO INFRASTRUCTURE CAME WITH SOME KIND OF O AND M, YOU KNOW, SO TO THE EXTENT WE COULD WORK ON GETTING OUR EXISTING LEVEL TWO INFRASTRUCTURE REFURBISHED, YOU KNOW, I, I KNOW THERE'S SOME STATE CEC FUNDING TOWARDS THAT, MOSTLY AT THE LEVEL THREE LEVEL.
BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S A WORK STREAM.
HOW DO WE REFURBISH OUR LEVEL TWO INFRASTRUCTURE AND JUST MAKE SURE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN AS POORLY IN THE FUTURE? UM, THAT'S SORT OF THE EV INFRASTRUCTURE SUBCATEGORY.
UH, THE NEXT, PRETTY SPECIFIC, I GUESS MY TITLE IS AUTO DEALERS.
THAT'S NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT ACCURATE, BUT WE DID HAVE A LONG CONVERSATION AROUND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE AUTO MALL IN PETALUMA, WHICH IS SOMEWHAT RARE, YOU KNOW, FROM A, FOR A TOWN TO HAVE AN AUTO MALL, AND WHAT CAN WE DO, UH, AROUND THAT TOPIC, RIGHT? SO IT'S ZONED FOR AN AUTO MALL.
THERE IS A, UH, AUTO DEALER THAT'S LEFT.
WHAT CAN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT DO TO MAYBE ENCOURAGE AN ELECTRIC FOCUSED, UH, AD UM, DEALER, YOU KNOW, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER REBS HAD SOME EXCELLENT LIKE SUGGESTIONS, RECOMMENDATIONS ON WHAT TO DO THERE IN THE NEW CITY'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UH, GROUP.
UH, ANOTHER IDEA, WHICH I THINK COULD BE, UH, AT LEAST, UH, YOU KNOW, A GOOD GALVANIZER IS A SALES TAX HOLIDAY RELATED TO EVS.
THAT'S DEFINITELY AN ACTION THAT THE CITY CAN TAKE, IS TO, UH, DO A SALES TAX HOLIDAY FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
UH, IF WE WERE TO GET TO COUNTY ON BOARD, THEN THAT COULD ACTUALLY BE A MEANINGFUL INCENTIVE.
UH, THERE'S A WHOLE BUDGET ASPECT OF THAT.
BUT THAT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, TO ME, LOW HANGING FRUIT, UH, WE HAD A CONVERSATION AROUND MICRO MOBILITY.
HOW DO WE, UH, FURTHER OUR MICRO MOBILITY STRATEGY.
THERE'S SOME SAFETY ELEMENTS THERE.
THERE'S A WHOLE, UM, WORK STREAM ON THAT.
UH, TOPIC FOUR OF FIVE IS CITY OF PETALUMA FLEET ELECTRIFICATION.
UH, THERE'S MOSTLY A LOT OF QUESTIONS AROUND LIKE, WHAT'S THE STATUS? THERE'S SOME, UM, INTEREST AROUND LIKE, WHAT IS THE CITY DOING TODAY? YOU KNOW, AND WHAT ARE SOME OF THE CHALLENGES AND HOW CAN SOME OF THE FLEXIBLE INTERCONNECTION, UH, STRATEGIES THAT PG E IS DEPLOYING,
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HOW CAN WE, UH, FURTHER THAT EFFORT? UH, AND THEN LASTLY, LIKE WHAT'S THE CITY'S VEHICLE PURCHASE, UH, POLICY AND ITS FLEET INVENTORY AND LIKE, WHAT'S THE REGULAR CADENCE OF THAT, UH, TOPIC FIVE OF FIVE IS OUR FAST CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE IN TOWN.BOTH WHAT IS OUR EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE? WHO ARE THE PROVIDERS? UH, DO DOES THE CITY HAVE, UH, ANY ENGAGEMENT IN THOSE, UH, GROUPS TO THE EXTENT WE UNDERSTAND THEIR NEEDS, POSSIBLY RED TAPE THERE.
UM, AND WHERE MAYBE NEW LOCATIONS MIGHT BE PRIORITIZED AND WHAT TYPES OF GRANT FUNDING, UH, COULD BE ACHIEVED FROM THAT PURPOSE.
UH, AND THERE LASTLY, THERE WAS LIKE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WORKING GROUP THAT'S BEING FORMED, WHICH COULD POSSIBLY PLUG INTO THAT.
UM, SO ANYWAY, THOSE WERE THE, WHAT WE DISCUSSED, AND THERE'S A LAUNDRY LIST OF, UH, THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE.
AND, UH, NOW I GUESS IF YOU COULD ADD ANYTHING, UH, TO THAT SUMMARY.
UM, YEAH, JUST A COUPLE THINGS.
ONE OF THE, THE, THE KEY AREAS, UH, TO MAYBE INVESTIGATED NOW SINCE WE HAVE THE FIRE AND POLICE STATION MOVING FORWARD AT THE FAIRGROUNDS, THERE SHOULD BE AN ELECTRICAL LINE, UH, ADDED IN THERE THAT WOULD GO NEARBY, MAYBE RIGHT TO THE PARKING STRUCTURE THAT COULD PUT IT, MAYBE EVEN A CAR MICROCAR RIDESHARE PROGRAM COULD BE INSTALLED AT THE FAIRGROUNDS.
AND THAT RIGHT IN THAT PARKING LOT.
UH, IF WE HAVE, IF WE'RE DOING THE POLICE AND FIRE THERE, LET'S MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE ELECTRICAL CAPACITY ON THE FAIRGROUNDS.
DO IT THERE OR, OR SOMEWHERE ELSE ON THE FAIRGROUNDS.
SO THAT WOULD BE A, A A A, UM, LEVEL FOUR, UM, CHARGE STATIONS, UH, FOR FAST CHARGING.
UM, SO WE HAVE A BIKE RIDE SHARE.
CAN WE MOVE UP TO A, UH, CAR OR EVEN POD, UH, RIDE SHARE MICROCAR TYPE THING TO DEMONSTRATE THAT IN A PILOT PROJECT AND GET SOME GRANT MONIES FOR THAT.
UH, SO THAT WAS ONE AREA THAT WE WORKED ON.
AND THEN AT THE DEALERSHIP, UH, SINCE THERE'S A, UM, AN EMPTY STATE EMPTY BUILDING NOW, NOW WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD TIME TO TALK TO ONE OF THE OTHER DEALERS WHO, WHO HAVE A NEW LINE OF EVS COMING OUT WORLDWIDE.
UM, TO COME ENTRY HONDA WOULD BE PROBABLY TOP OF MY CHOICE RIGHT NOW FOR WHAT THEY HAVE IN THEIR PIPELINE TO GET THEM, UM, TO EXPAND OUT THERE INTO THAT PROGRAM.
UM, SO THERE'S A FEW OTHER DETAILS, BUT, UH, SO WE HAD A LOT OF GOOD DISCUSSIONS, UM, AND LOTS OF IDEAS THAT CAME OUT THAT, THAT WE COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH, UH, DOWN THE ROAD.
ANYWAY, THAT'S, SO IT WAS VERY PRODUCTIVE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD AS JUST GENERAL BRAINSTORMING IDEAS.
UM, I SHOULD NOTE THAT, UH, I DROVE BY THE, A AUTO MALL ON MONDAY AFTERNOON, AND IT LOOKS LIKE HYUNDAI IS GOING INTO THAT NISSAN SPACE.
AND THEY HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF EVS.
THEY'RE A BIG PROMOTER OF EV SO THAT'S A GOOD THING.
EXCELLENT SALES TAX, HOLIDAY, TAX, HOLIDAY.
OH, THEN, AND THEN WE ALSO DID TALK ABOUT THE EV BIKES AND, UM, UH, THE SAFETY RECORD THAT, THAT, UH, WE NEED TO BE WORKING ON EDUCATION, PARTICULARLY AMONGST THE TEEN CROWD AND HOW, HOW WE CAN DO THINGS THERE.
UM, WHETHER EDUCATION PROGRAM AND WHETHER OR NOT, UM, SINCE MARIN COUNTY HAS GONE THE ROUTE OF, UM, ACTUALLY, UH, ELIMINATING, UH, THE ABILITY OF 16 YEAR OLDS AND UNDER HAVING EVEN TO RIDE AN EV, WHETHER HOW FAR, UH, WE WANNA GO IN ORDINANCES AND REGULATIONS AND EDUCATION REGISTRATIONS, UH, LICENSING OF THE BIKES, UM, TRAINING PRO REQUIRED, TRAINING PRO, THERE'S ALL SORTS OF THINGS THAT COULD BE IMPLEMENTED, UM, FOR, UH, TO IMPROVE SAFETY SINCE THESE VEHICLES ARE GETTING FASTER AND MORE ACCIDENTS.
AND EVEN THE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT IS, IS SHOWING UP AND SAYING, WE HAVE A PROBLEM HERE IN PETALUMA.
NOW, UH, MARIN COUNTY HIT IT FIRST, BUT WE'RE GETTING IT THE SAME THING.
SO HOW FAR DO WE GO? SO THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER AREA OF DISCUSSION THAT WE NEED TO WORK ON.
UM, WHICH WOULD BE PART OF, UM, UH, ALL THE T PBA C AND THE, AND TRANSPORT WOULD ALL HAVE TO BE ENGAGED IN THIS PROCESS TO, IN THIS DISCUSSION.
IT MIGHT TAKE SEVERAL COMMITTEES WORKING TOGETHER TO COME UP WITH A UNIFORM POLICY.
WHERE DO WE WANNA LAND ON THAT AREA? UH, 'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PLACES WE COULD GO WITH THIS.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE KIND OF LIKE, LET, UH, LETTING THINGS SLIDE A LITTLE BIT AND WE NEED TO JUMP ON THIS, I THINK, AND WE, THAT'S SOME OF THE THINGS TO WORK ON MORE STUFF.
I'LL SAY THREE FINAL THINGS, MAYBE ABOUT THE E-BIKE THING.
I WILL SAY AFTER HAVING THAT CONVERSATION AND GOING AND DOING SOME LIGHT REVIEW OF WHAT MARIN COUNTY HAS DONE SPECIFICALLY, I WILL SAY, AND THIS IS MAYBE MORE AN APPROPRIATE FOR THE, UH, LIKE A COMMENT AT THE A TP MEETING ON MONDAY.
BUT I AT LEAST PERSONALLY THINK, AND YOU KNOW, FROM MY INTERACTIONS WITH SOME OF THE COUNTY FOLK DOWN THERE, UM, THE MARIN E-BIKE CLUB, IF YOU GUYS HAVEN'T HEARD OF THAT, BUT THE MARIN E-BIKE CLUB WAS AN INITIATIVE THAT THEY CREATED TO MAKE E-BIKE SAFETY AND FOLLOWING THE RULES.
AND THERE'S A WHOLE LIKE, STRATEGY AROUND IT, AND IT'S,
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FROM WHAT I HEAR, LIKE QUITE EFFECTIVE, UM, YOU KNOW, MORE OF A CARROT APPROACH THAN THE STICK APPROACH.SO ANYWAY, TO THE EXTENT YOU'RE CURIOUS ON THAT TOPIC, THE MARIN E-BIKE CLUB AS A, UH, NOTION OF SUCCESS, I, I THOUGHT WAS, UH, QUITE INTERESTING.
UM, AND THEN THE SECOND POINT ON THE LIKE LEVEL FOUR CHARGE STATION AT THE FAIRGROUNDS, THIS IS MAYBE A QUESTION BACK TO THE STAFF, UM, AND POSSIBLY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PERCOLATES TO THE TOP MOST QUICKLY, BUT LIKE, WHAT, WHAT IS THE CURRENT STATUS OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMPLEX AND THE CONSULTANT RELATED TO THE ENERGY SYSTEM THERE? AND THEN THE ENGAGEMENT WITH PG E AROUND THAT TOPIC.
AND TO NARROW DOWN FURTHER, LIKE WHEN IS THE PLAN TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION TO PG E FOR, UH, THE LOAD AND THEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO POSSIBLY REQUEST MORE, UH, FOR SOMETHING LIKE, UH, A LEVEL FOUR EV CHARGING STATION WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT CONNECTIONS TO PG AND E ARE NUMBER ONE, EXPENSIVE, BUT NUMBER TWO TAKE MULTIPLE YEARS TO, UH, COME TO FRUITION.
SO TO THE EXTENT WE HAVE THAT KNOWLEDGE NOW AND WE HAVE A PLAN TO PUT SOMETHING THERE, CAN WE POSSIBLY ACCELERATE THAT EFFORT WITH PG E? SO THAT'S, I I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR STAFF TO PROVIDE SOME KIND OF FEEDBACK THERE.
I THINK THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS COMMITTEE TO POSSIBLY SUPPORT IN THAT WAY.
AND I DO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, GETTING NEW, A NEW 10 MEGAWATTS, YOU KNOW, AT THE FAIRGROUNDS, LIKE EVENTUALLY WHEN WE GET THAT, THAT WILL BE HUGELY TRANSFORMATIVE.
SO, UM, I GUESS MUL THAT OVER.
I DON'T THINK YOU'D BE ABLE TO REPORT BACK ON THAT NEXT MONTH, BUT, UM, I DO SEE THAT AS, YOU KNOW, AND SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BUBBLED UP TO THE TOP IN TERMS OF LIKE BIG IMPACT.
AND THEN LASTLY, I MEAN, I'M GONNA MIGHT, IF NO ONE'S SPEAKING UP, I'M GONNA GO DOWN THE LIST AND EVERYONE'S GONNA PICK THEIR ONE THING AND THEN WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT IT NEXT MONTH.
SO, UM, YEAH, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WANNA MAKE A COMMENT? I'LL JUST BE VERY BRIEF.
UH, SO WITH THE FEW MONTHS WE HAVE LEFT, I DECIDED TO PUT OFF, UH, WELL, MY, ME AND MY WIFE DECIDED TO PUT OFF DOING SOME OTHER STUFF AROUND THE HOUSE AND WE'RE, WE SIGNED OUR SOLAR CONTRACT AND OUR HEAP PUMP WATER HEATER CONTRACT, SO WE'RE GETTING IT DONE.
AND, UH, YEAH, SO, UH, TRYING TO WALK THE WALK HERE AND I, I GET, LIKE I SAID, HAPPY TO HELP OTHER FOLKS NAVIGATE THIS AS I'VE DONE THIS A FEW TIMES AND IT'S WHAT I DO ALL DAY FOR WORK.
SO, UH,
UM, JUST REALLY, I DID, UH, UM, I DID FINISH MY TWO A DU VIDEOS, UH, ONE ON, UH, THE STARTUP AND ONE ON THE CONSTRUCTION ALONG WITH NEST NOW ON YOUTUBE WITH, UH, UM, A LIST OF THE ACTUAL PERMIT AND, UH, ANOTHER ADVICE COLUMN IN TEXT FORMAT, AS WELL AS TESTIMONY FROM MY SON AS WHAT IT'S LIKE TO LIVE IN THERE.
SO THAT'S HELPING PROMOTE ADUS.
SO THE CITY HAS THAT, UH, UM, IN HAND LOOKING AT IT AS WELL AS THE A DU CENTER.
I TALKED TO THEM, UH, A DU CENTER RECENTLY.
UH, THERE WILL BE AN A DU FAIR DOWN IN MARIN, UH, I THINK ON OCTOBER 4TH.
AND I'M, I'M GONNA GO DOWN THERE.
UH, AND THEN, UM, THERE'S GONNA BE ANOTHER ONE, I THINK, UM, A FEW, SEVERAL MONTHS LATER, UM, IN THE, IN THE FALL, UM, MAYBE NEXT YEAR, UH, EARLY SPRING MAYBE THAT'LL BE HERE IN, UM, IN, IN THE SONOMA NAPA, WHICH INCLUDES A TOUR OF ADUS IN THE WHOLE AREA.
SO I'LL, I'LL, I'LL BE ON, I'LL HAVE MY A DU ON DISPLAY DURING THAT TIME AND PARTICIPATING IN THAT.
SO THOSE ARE TWO, TWO THAT ARE COMING UP ON THAT.
UM, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, UH, I'M DOING ALL THE USUAL THINGS.
I NEED RELIEF IS DOING ALL SORTS OF WORK AS WELL AS I'M WORKING ON PABLE WETLANDS ALLIANCE, UH, STUFF.
AND, UM, RIGHT NOW I'M TRYING TO BUILD A LITTLE, UM, UH, WALKWAY AND BRIDGE OVER A PATHWAY OVER AT ELLIS CREEK, WORKING ON THAT AT THE MOMENT, SEEING IF I GET THAT DONE.
BUT I, I'M WORKING ON A FEW PROJECTS ANYWAY, UH OH.
I DID PARTICIPATE IN THE ABUNDANCE BOOK AND, AND THIS RED TAPE THAT, UH, UH, COMM HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT, UM, IS, IS A MAJOR PORTION OF THE ABUNDANCE BOOK IS REDUCING THAT RED TAPE, UH, AND TIME.
IT'S, IT'S REDUCING THE TIME FROM START TO FINISH OF A, OF A PROPOSAL TO, TO ACTUALLY GROUNDBREAKING, GET THAT TIMEFRAME DOWN.
SO THAT, THAT WAS A CRITICAL PART OF THAT WHOLE BOOK THERE AND THAT, THAT, THAT CAME UP PRETTY STRONGLY.
BUT THE BOOK NEVER SAID HOW TO DO IT.
THEY JUST SAID, NEED TO DO IT,
ANYWAY, THAT'S, THAT'S MY QUICK REPORT FOR THE MOMENT.
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YEAH.UM, I GUESS I COULD JUST SAY, UM, WENT TO A SOLAR CONFERENCE EARLIER THIS WEEK AND, UH, I, THEY'RE NOT SLOWING DOWN
AND, UM, FOR ANY, IF ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM KNOWS ANYBODY WHO'S CONCERNED ABOUT IT, THEY CAN'T DO IT THIS YEAR.
UM, THEY'RE STILL LIKE, YOU COULD DO A PPA NEXT YEAR, AND THAT STILL COUNTS FOR 30% TAX CREDIT.
AND A LOT OF, UM, SOLAR INSTALLERS ARE, ARE OFFERING TO SHARE THAT TAX CREDIT WITH THE HOMEOWNER IN ORDER TO HELP PEOPLE CONTINUE TO, UM, BE ABLE TO GET SOME OF THE BENEFIT.
AND THAT'S GOOD UNTIL THE END OF NEXT YEAR.
SO IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A, NOT A CLIFF, BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, BEST TO DO IT NOW,
SAID ANY NEWS ON THEM? UM, I DON'T, I MEAN, YEAH, SORRY, SORRY.
YEAH, THERE WAS NEWS ON THAT AND I THINK IT WAS GOOD NEWS, BUT, UM, I, I'M NOT PULLING IT OUTTA MY MEMORY RIGHT NOW.
UM, SO YEAH, SO, UH, AND THEN ALSO SOLAR, YOU KNOW, THEY CALL IT THE SOLAR COASTER, YOU KNOW, UM, BECAUSE IT GOES UP AND DOWN ALL THE TIME AND THERE'S A, THEY ALWAYS, WHENEVER SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS, THEY ALWAYS FIND A WAY TO MAKE IT CHEAPER.
SO
UM, SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, HOPEFUL.
UM, AND I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
PRETTY, PRETTY BRANDED, LET ME JUST ADD, I FORGOT TO MENTION, THERE IS A CLIMATE RESTORATION FILM ON THE 20TH OVER AT THE A POLY CLASS THEATER, UH, BETWEEN ONE AND THREE.
IT'S, UH, IT'S FOR FREE AND THE ACTUAL PRODUCER DIRECTORS OF THE FILM WILL BE THERE TO DISCUSS IT.
[STAFF COMMENT]
THEN LET'S MOVE ON TO STAFF COMMENT.DURING STAFF COMMENT, STAFF WILL PROVIDE BRIEF UPDATES RELEVANT TO THIS COMMISSION.
DIALOGUE BETWEEN MEMBERS AND STAFF SHOULD BE LIMITED TO CLARIFYING QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS.
AND THERE SHOULD BE NO DIALOGUE BETWEEN MEMBERS.
THERE WILL BE NO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.
UM, I HAVE A COUPLE, UM, THE ONE THAT IS REALLY EXCITING TO ME PERSONALLY, 'CAUSE I'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR FOUR YEARS NOW.
UM, THE FLOATING SOLAR OUT AT ELLIS CREEK.
UM, WE DID THE PTO INSPECTION ON TUESDAY AND THINGS WERE LOOKING REALLY GOOD THERE.
SO I, I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S GONNA BE ISSUES GETTING PTO.
AND SO WE'RE, UM, WE'RE TRYING TO WRAP UP OUR COMMERCIAL OPERATION DATE, WHICH BASICALLY IS ALL THE PUNCH LIST ITEMS AND MAKING SURE THAT EVERYTHING'S ELECTRICALLY SOUND ON IT.
UM, UH, THE, THE GOAL FROM, FROM WHITE PINE IS BY THE END OF THE MONTH, WE'LL SEE.
UM, THERE'S STILL A FEW THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO, BUT, UM, THAT, UH, FLIP OR THAT SWITCH WILL GET FLIPPED PRETTY SOON.
AND, UM, WE'LL START BE FEEDING BACK INTO THE GRID, UM, WHEN WE'RE NOT USING THE ENERGY ON THE SITE, WHICH IS REALLY EXCITING UNDER NM 2.0.
UM, AND THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME TIME, UM, IN, IN OCTOBER FOR DOING SOME SORT OF, UM, RIBBON CUTTING OR I THINK IT'S MORE SYMBOLIC TO FLIP THE SWITCH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, UM, FOR THE SITE.
YEAH, A VERY, THAT, THAT WAS NO JOKE.
A BIG SWITCH IS SOMETHING WE TALKED ABOUT.
WE, WE HAVE THE ONE OVER HERE AT THE SUB.
I'LL JUST ASK PG E TO BORROW THAT.
UM, SO YEAH, WE'LL, WE'LL LET THE COMMISSION KNOW WHEN THAT HAPPENS.
UM, I'M NOT SURE, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE PEOPLE ACTUALLY OUT ON THE SITE, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DRONE FOOTAGE AND, UM, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SEE THE SEQUENCES OF, OF HOW THE, THE ARRAYS WERE INSTALLED OUT THERE, SO THAT'S REALLY EXCITING.
UM, SO WE'LL YEAH, STAY TUNED FOR THAT.
UM, THE OTHER ONE, AND THAT WAS PROMPTED, UM, BY A QUESTION ABOUT THE PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY AT THE FAIRGROUNDS.
UM, I AM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE BEING ABLE TO AFFORD THAT BY THE SKIN OF OUR TEETH.
UM, I'M NOT SURE THAT THERE'S ANY, I MEAN, WE'RE STILL LOOKING TO TRIM FAT FROM THAT PROJECT TO MAKE THE PROJECT PENCIL OUT.
UM, WITH THE FINANCIAL RESOURCES WE HAVE, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S EXTRAS THAT WE CAN GET FROM IT, BUT I WILL MENTION THAT CONCURRENTLY WE'VE JUST KICKED OFF A MASTER PLANNING PROCESS, UM, THAT WITH, WITH $1.2 MILLION OF GRANT FUNDING THAT WE GOT THROUGH THE CDBG, THE CALIFORNIA DEVELOP, UM, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDING.
UM, AND THAT MIGHT BE THE BETTER AVENUE THAT
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WE LOOK AT HOW WE GET, UM, I MEAN, 'CAUSE WE'RE, WE ARE SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT HOW WE, YOU KNOW, MAKE THAT, THAT SITE MORE RESILIENT IN THE FACE OF DISASTERS.THAT MIGHT BE HOW WE GET, UM, YOU KNOW, MICROGRIDS AT THE SITE THAT, THAT COVER OPERATIONS.
UM, BUT YEAH, WE CAN, WE CAN PROVIDE MORE COMPREHENSIVE INFORMATION.
I'M JUST KIND OF GOING OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD RIGHT NOW, JUST TRYING TO BE RESPONSIVE TO THAT, THAT ONE COMMENT.
UM, BUT YEAH, LOTS GOING ON AT THE FAIRGROUNDS AND IT'S EXCITING.
I DON'T THINK, DEB, YOU HAD ANYTHING? OKAY, THANK YOU.
THE FOOD WEAR ORDINANCE, WHAT'S THE STATUS OF THAT? MORGAN IS GOING OUT TO BUSINESSES AND GATHERING DATA FROM THEM, UM, TALKING ABOUT, UM, THEIR EXISTING PRACTICES AND, UM, UM, HEARING ABOUT THEIR THOUGHTS ON HOW IT INTER WOULD INTEGRATE WITH THEIR BUSINESS.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE DOING THAT BASELINE STUDY RIGHT NOW.
THE, THE IDEA WAS THAT FEEDBACK IS POSSIBLY, IS IS IT GOING TO COME BACK HERE OR NO, IT'S GOING TO GO SOMEWHERE.
I, I THINK WHAT THE COMMISSION, UH, SAID AT THE TIME WAS THAT IF IT MADE SENSE TO DO A REPORT BACK, LIKE IF THERE'S NEW INFORMATION THAT MADE SENSE AND, AND THERE WAS TIME THAT WE'D BRING IT BACK.
WE CAN, WE CAN PROVIDE UPDATES WHEN, WHEN THERE'S MORE INFORMATION TO SHARE.
ARE WE GONNA MENTION THAT IT'S NINE 11 TODAY? COURSE? YEAH.
UH, I, I GUESS I'LL DO THAT AS, AS THE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER HERE.
UH, WE JUST ALSO WANNA HONOR ALL THE, ALL THE FOLKS THAT, UM, UH, PASSED AWAY DURING THAT EVENT AND STILL SUFFERING FROM THAT EVENT.
ALL THE FIREMEN, THE POLICE ARE SUFFERING STILL FROM THAT.
UM, MY COUSIN WAS STANDING IN THE STREET AND WATCHED THE SECOND PLANE HIT, SO, UH, SO I'VE HEARD THE PERSONAL, UH, EXPERIENCES THERE, UH, AS WELL AS OTHER FOLKS, UH, I'VE HEARD OVER TIME.
UH, WE HAVE THE MEMORIAL THERE, BUT I THINK WE ALSO, UH, SPEND THIS DAY AT LEAST, UH, FOR A MOMENT AND, AND HONOR THE, THE, THE, THE FOLKS, UH, WHO WILL PARTICIPATE IN ALL THAT AND, AND THE RECONSTRUCTION THAT, THAT'S BEEN GOING ON ALL THIS TIME.
SO LET'S JUST, UM, HAVE A, HAVE OUR THOUGHTS FOR THEM IF WE CAN.