* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. YOU STARTED , [00:00:01] THIS CASE. THAT'S GREAT. UM, GOOD EVENING. [CALL TO ORDER] WELCOME TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE HISTORIC AND CULTURAL PRESERVATION COMMITTEE FOR TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 4TH, 2025. CLERK, WOULD YOU, URIEL, WOULD YOU PLEASE TAKE ROLE? YEP. UH, COMMITTEE MEMBER MCMICHAEL HERE. COMMITTEE MEMBER SQUIRREL HERE. COMMITTEE MEMBER HALL. WE NOT HERE, BUT WE'LL BE JOINING A LITTLE LATER. AND CHAIR BARCLAYS AXON HERE. KORUM. RIGHT. UH, WE ARE GOING TO START WITH THE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON ITEMS OF PUBLIC INTEREST THAT ARE WITHIN THE HCPC SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION AND THAT ARE NOT LISTED ON THE CURRENT AGENDA. PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED UP TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON. DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF PERSONS WISHING TO ADDRESS THE HCPC. TIME WILL BE ALLOCATED IN EQUAL SHARES TOTAL, NO MORE THAN 13 MINUTES TO MOVE IN A GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT AND ASK SPEAKERS TO BRING THEIR CARDS TO THE CLERK'S DESK IF THEY HAVE NOT ALREADY. HAVE YOU RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING WE RECEIVED? NO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS PRIOR TO MEETING. OKAY. ARE THERE ANY IN-PERSON PUBLIC SPEAKERS WE HAVE TO FILL OUT A CARD TO SAY SOMETHING OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? YOU CAN GIVE A GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT RIGHT NOW. UM, IF IT'S REGARDING A SPECIFIC ITEM, YOU MIGHT WANNA WAIVE UNTIL THAT I SPEAK. UM, BUT YOU CAN ALWAYS, UH, FILL OUT THE CARD APP. RIGHT? OH, OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. DO, DO YOU WISH TO GIVE A GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT? WELL, WE JUST LOOKED AT THEIR PLANS AND THOUGHT THEY WERE REALLY BEAUTIFUL AND THOUGHTFUL, SO WE'LL WAIT THEN FOR THE MEETING. OKAY. OKAY. GOT ME. OKAY, WELL THEN I THINK WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE AND PUBLIC COMMENT AND CONTINUE WITH THE AGENDA. UM, THERE ARE NO PRESENTATION ITEMS TODAY, SO I'M ALSO GOING TO CLOSE THAT MEETING ITEM AND CONTINUE. THERE IS NO NEED TO APPROVED MINUTES TODAY, SO WE WILL ALSO CLOSE THAT MEETING ITEM, BUT THERE IS A [PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION] PUBLIC HEARING AND A MATTER FOR CONSIDERATION MEETING ITEM ONE. UM, ARE WE READY TO GO FOR THAT? OKAY. OKAY. UM, A PUBLIC HEARING, A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY OF PETALUMA HISTORIC AND CULTURAL PRESERVATION COMMITTEE, HCPC TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER A RESOLUTION APPROVING HISTORIC SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW. H PART SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FOR PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS TO A CIRCA 1908 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, INCLUDING A 113 SQUARE FOOT, ONE STORY ADDITION TO THE REAR OF THE STRUCTURE AND A 722 SQUARE FOOT. SECOND STORY ADDITION, EXPANSION OF THE REAR RAISED, RAISED DECK, AND RECONFIGURATION OF THE REAR PARKING AREA LOCATED IN THE OAKVILLE BURG HISTORIC DISTRICT AT 5 26 OAK STREET. UM, OUR BN 0 0 6 2 0 2 0 1 3 CITY RECORD NUMBER, PLSR 2 25 0 0 0 9. UM, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND IT DOES REQUIRE THE COMMITTEE TO DISCLOSE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS. DO YOU WANT TO TOUCH ON PARTE? YEAH, AND I'LL JUST CONTINUE. YEAH, THANKS CHAIR. AND I'LL JUST SAY TO COMMITTEE, MEMBER HALL IS HERE FOR THE RECORD. SO, EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS ARE JUST KIND OF ANY DISCUSSIONS YOU'VE HAD, MAYBE WITH THE APPLICANTS OR OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE PRO OR AGAINST THE PROJECT AND THAT YOU WANT TO GET OUT THERE FOR THE RECORD FOR EVERYBODY ELSE TO KNOW AND CONSIDER AND HERE ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? THANK YOU. OVER VERY MUCH. DOES ANYBODY NEED TO DISCLOSE I TO IT? OFF TO ANDREW THEN. GREAT. THANK YOU CHAIR. HAVE I, DID I OFFICIALLY OPEN IT? I WANNA MAKE SURE I OFFICIALLY OPENED THE PUBLIC HEARING. JUST SAY WE'RE OPENING. OKAY. WE'RE OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, GREAT. WELL, UH, THANK YOU AGAIN. WELCOME THIS EVENING. IF IT DOES GET WARM IN HERE, JUST LET US KNOW. WE CAN CRACK THE WINDOWS, IT'S A BIT COOL OUTSIDE, SO WE CAN KEEP IT AT A, A GOOD AMBIENT TEMPERATURE. UH, MY NAME IS ANDREW TRIP. I'M THE PLANNING MANAGER. I'M ALSO THE PROJECT PLANNER FOR, UH, THIS EVENING'S PROJECT FOR WHICH WE'LL BE, UH, PROVIDING A PUBLIC HEARING. AND THE PROJECT [00:05:01] IS THE LA RESIDENCE RENOVATION EXPANSION AND ASSOCIATED IMPROVEMENTS. THE, UH, DISCRETIONARY PLANNING ACTION IS HISTORIC SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW, WHICH DOES REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING. THE PROJECT IS LOCATED AT, UH, 5 26 OAK STREET AND WILL BE CONSIDERING PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS TO DEVELOPMENT IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT, UH, THIS EVENING. DURING THE PRESENTATION, I'LL BE, UM, TOUCHING BRIEFLY ON THE DISCRETIONARY REVIEW PROCESS AND STANDARDS FOR REVIEW. THEN CONSIDERING PROJECT DESCRIPTION, UM, THE PROJECT DESCRIPTION, TYPICALLY THE PROJECT PLANNER LIKELY TOUCHES UPON THE DETAILS OF THE PROJECT. UM, BUT BECAUSE WE DO HAVE AN APPLICANT PRESENTATION BY THEIR ARCHITECT, THE ARCHITECT WILL DEVELOP MORE DEEPLY INTO THOSE DETAILS AND THEN CONSIDER PUBLIC OUTREACH AND COMMENTS AS WELL AS, AS DISCUSSION ABOUT THE REQUIRED FINDINGS THAT THE COMMITTEE IS BEING ASKED TO MAKE THIS EVENING. WE'LL CONCLUDE THEN WITH ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW CONSIDERATIONS AND RECOMMENDATION. SO A DISCRETIONARY REVIEW, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, UM, IS, UH, A QUASI-JUDICIAL PROCESS WHEREBY A COMMITTEE THAT'S APPOINTED BY, UH, THE, UM, LEGISLATIVE BODY, WHICH IN THIS CASE IS THE CITY COUNCIL, IS BEING ASKED TO MAKE A DECISION ON A PROJECT IN A, IN A QUASI-JUDICIAL, UM, SETTING, RIGHT? SO YOU ARE BEING A, IT IS SUBJECTIVE AND YOU ARE BEING ASKED TO WEIGH THE MERITS OF THE PROJECT AGAINST THE POLICIES AND REGULATIONS OF THE CITY THAT WOULD BE APPLICABLE TO THAT PROJECT. SO THAT'S THE NATURE OF HISTORIC SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW. THE, FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE SUBJECT TO HS A R AS WE REFER TO IT, WE HAVE, WE OFFER TWO TYPES OF HS A R REVIEW, ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW, AND MAJOR REVIEW. ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW IS FOR, UH, RELATIVELY MINOR MODIFICATIONS TO, UH, EITHER A STRUCTURE IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT OR A STRUCTURE THAT'S BEEN, UM, DESIGNATED AS A LANDLORD OR HAS BEEN LISTED, UM, ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER OR, OR A, UH, AS A LOCAL LANDMARK. AND SO BY MINOR IT MAY BE LIKE REPLACEMENT OF WINDOWS. UH, IT MAY BE SOME REPAIRS TO THE FRONT PORCH, THINGS LIKE THAT. THOSE ARE TYPICALLY MINOR, BUT EVEN A MINOR, UM, MODIFICATION. FOR INSTANCE, WE HAVE A PROJECT THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT OR FUTURE APPLICANT AT LEAST ON, UM, SORT OF SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THE FRONT PORCH AND STAIRS AND, UM, PAWNING AND SO FORTH. AND WE ARE BRINGING THAT IN FOR REVIEW BECAUSE THEY'RE, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE RETURNING IT TO ORIGINAL, IT IS FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT, UM, IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING. THE OTHER BENEFIT OF BRINGING A PROJECT IN FOR ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW THAT'S RELATIVELY MINOR IS THAT IT DOES REQUIRE PUBLIC NOTICING. AND SO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, AS WELL AS THE PUBLICATION IN THE, UM, THE ARGUS COURIER THAT ALLOWS FOR THE PUBLIC TO BE INFORMED ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THE PROJECT OR TO THE SITE. AND THEN THAT WAY LATER ON, IF CONSTRUCTION OCCURS, THEY'RE AWARE OF, UH, THAT THE CITY HAS REVIEWED THAT. SO THAT'S A BIT DIFFERENT THAN THAN WHY WE'RE HERE THIS EVENING, WHICH IS FOR MAJOR, UH, HAR REVIEW. AND, AND THAT DOES, UM, TAKE ASSET SUBJECT ADDITIONS, EXTERIOR ALTERATIONS, UH, POTENTIAL REMOVAL OF CHARACTER DEFINING FEATURES, IF THAT'S IN THE PROPOSAL, THAT'S NOT IN PROPOSAL THIS EVENING FOR DEMOLITION OF A, UH, HISTORIC STRUCTURE OR A STRUCTURE THAT MIGHT BE IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT AND BE ELIGIBLE FOR LISTING. UH, AND THEN AS YOU'LL SEE, THE, THE ACTUAL PROCESS IS QUITE SIMILAR. WE DO CONDUCT PLANNING REVIEW, WE DO MAKE FINDINGS TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO HCPC. UH, WE NOTICE THE PROJECT PUBLICLY AND THE SAME WAY EXCEPT THAT FOR A PUBLIC HEARING, THE APPLICANT IS REQUIRED TO INSTALL ONSITE SIGNAGE. AND SO IF YOU'VE BEEN PAST THE PROJECT SIDE, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE INSTALLED ONSITE SIGNAGE IN FRONT OF, UM, THEIR HOME, AND THEN WE CONDUCT THE PUBLIC HEARING. THEN HCCH IS IN A DECISION MAKING PROCESS. IN BOTH CASES, THE DECISION BY EITHER THE DIRECTOR FOR ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW OR BY HCPC FOR MAJOR REVIEW, THOSE DECISIONS CAN BE APPEALED WITHIN 14 DAYS OF THE DECISION. SO THE ENTIRE PROCESS OF, UH, THE APPLICATION SUBMITTAL OF THE DECISION OF THE APPEAL IS ALL PART OF THE RIGHTS TO DUE PROCESS THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS UNDER THE [00:10:01] CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE PROPERTY RIGHTS INHERENT, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, UH, THE QUASI-JUDICIAL DECISIONS AND DUE PROCESS AND SO FORTH, WE ARE SORT OF REACHING UP TO THE CONSTITUTION AND THINKING ABOUT THAT LEGAL FRAMEWORK THAT BRINGS US HERE TODAY IN THIS WO OF THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND SO IF THAT, UM, I'LL GO ON THEN AND, AND, UH, UH, ONE MORE, ONE MORE COMMENT THAT I'D LIKE TO MAKE ABOUT, UH, DISCRETIONARY REVIEW IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CONSISTENCY AND COMPLIANCE. SO THIS EVENING WE'RE GOING TO BE HEARING ABOUT SEVERAL TERMS. WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE GENERAL PLAN. WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE IMPLEMENTING ZONING ORDINANCE. WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THE OAK HILL BREWSTER HISTORIC DISTRICT GUIDELINES AND STANDARDS, AND WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR STANDARDS FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION. AND THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF DOCUMENTS. OUR GUIDELINES ARE PLANS, OUR POLICY DOCUMENTS WHILE THE, UH, IMPLEMENTING ZONING ORDINANCE IS A REGULATORY DOCUMENT. AND SO WE LOOK AT THOSE DOCUMENTS DIFFERENTLY WHEN WE APPLY THEM TO THE PROJECT. OUR PLANS, GUIDELINES, POLICIES, WE LOOK FOR CONSISTENCY WITH THAT PLAN OR POLICY. AND SO WE CAN SEE THAT IT'S A DEGREE TO WHICH A PROJECT CONFORMS TO OR IS COMPATIBLE WITH THAT HIGHER LEVEL PLANNER POLICIES. SO WE DON'T NEED TO FIND THAT A PROJECT EXACTLY CONFORMS TO EVERY SINGLE POLICY OR EVERY SINGLE GUIDELINE. WHAT WE'RE DOING THERE IS WE'RE LOOKING FOR, AND IT'S SUBJECTIVE, BUT WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE DEGREE TO WHICH IT CONFORMS FOR THE DEGREE TO WHICH IT WOULD COMPLY. AND SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR THAT POLICY ALIGNMENT AND SOMETIMES INTERNAL COHERENCE WITHIN THE DOCUMENT ITSELF. IT'S INTERPRETIVE. IT DOES REQUIRE ANALYSIS, AND IT DOES REQUIRE JUDGMENT, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY. AND, UM, THEN I THINK IT'S BEST FRAMED BY THE QUESTION, DOES THIS PROJECT FURTHER OR NOT CONFLICT WITH GOALS AND POLICIES IN THE POLICY OR PLANNING DOCUMENT? SO THE GENERAL PLAN, THE OAK HILL BREWSTER HISTORIC GUIDELINES AND STANDARDS, THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR STANDARDS. THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE THEN IS COMPLIANCE. AND THAT'S HOW WE APPLY THE IMPLEMENTING ZONING ORDINANCE. AND SO WE'LL SEE TONIGHT WHEN WE REVIEW SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT ARE IN THE IMPLEMENTING ZONING ORDINANCE FOR THE R THREE ZONING DISTRICT, THEN WE ARE LOOKING FOR COMPLIANCE, AND WE'RE LOOKING TO THE EXTENT TO WHICH, AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE PROJECT TO MEET THAT REGULATORY STANDARD. SO A GREAT EXAMPLE THAT WE'LL SEE MIGHT BE, UM, PROJECT SETBACKS, RIGHT? WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH SETBACKS, THE DEGREE TO WHICH YOU HAVE TO, UH, CONSTRAIN DEVELOPMENT AWAY FROM A PROPERTY LINE, AND THAT'S A REGULATORY STANDARD. THEN. SO WE DO LOOK SPECIFICALLY TO DETERMINE IF DEVELOPMENT IS OUTSIDE OF THE SETBACK AREA. AND SO IT IS A DETERMINATIVE APPROACH AND EVALUATION, AND IT DOES INVOLVE CHECKING FOR EXPLICIT STANDARDS OR THRESHOLDS. AND THERE WE ASK THE QUESTION, DOES THE PROJECT MEET ALL OF THE APPLICABLE CODES, ORDINANCES, AND ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS? SO THAT THEN, UH, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND HEAD INTO THE PRESENTATION THEN ABOUT THIS EVENING'S PROJECT. UH, IT DOES INVOLVE THE CONSTRUCTION OF A 113 SQUARE FOOT ONE STORY ADDITION TO THE REAR OF THE EXISTING RESIDENCE, AS WELL AS THE CONSTRUCTION OF A 722 SQUARE FOOT PARTIAL SECOND STORY. THE, UH, THE, UH, PARTIAL SECOND STORY WOULD CREATE AN ELEVATED GABLE ROOF LINE WITH A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 24 FEET, 11 INCHES TO THE MIDPOINT OF THE GABLE, WHICH IS HOW WE MEASURE BUILDING HEIGHT HERE IN THE CITY OF PETALUMA. IT WOULD, UH, CONSTRUCT TWO GABLE DORMERS SIDE DORMERS ON THE SOUTHEAST AND NORTHWEST ELEVATIONS. AND IT WOULD, UM, EXTERIOR MATERIALS WOULD INCLUDE HORIZONTAL AND SHINGLE SIDING, WOOD DOUBLE HUNG WINDOWS AND ASPHALT SHINGLE ROOFING. THE PROJECT WOULD ALSO CON RECONFIGURE THE EXISTING PARKING AREA AND CONSTRUCT AN AN EXPANDED REAR RAISED DECK. HERE'S AN IMAGE OF THE SITE PLAN ON, UH, THE SITE PLAN TO YOUR LEFT IS THE, UH, PROPOSED SITE PLAN. WE CAN SEE HERE WHERE, UH, RATHER THAN THEIR, THEIR EXISTING PARKING ON THE RIGHT, WHICH IS A SIDE BY SIDE PARKING ARRANGEMENT, UM, AND I BELIEVE WITH, WITH NO DRIVE TO THE, UH, TO THE GARAGE, RIGHT THEN AS WE LOOK OVER TO THE LEFT, THEN THE ARRANGEMENT WOULD [00:15:01] BE CHANGED. THEY WOULD, UH, REARRANGE IT TO CONSTRUCT A DRIVEWAY. UH, IT WOULD RESULT IN, IN TANDEM PARKING OUTSIDE OF THE EXISTING GARAGE. AND THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE EXPANSION OF THE EXISTING REAR DECK. THEN HERE WE CAN SEE THE, UH, THE ONE STORY ADDITION TO THE REAR. UH, WE'LL NOTE THAT IT IS INSET, UM, ON BOTH THE REAR ELEVATION AND THE SIDE ELEVATION. SO THE STANDARDS FOR REVIEW FOR THIS PROJECT, AND THESE ARE THE, UH, PLANS, THE POLICIES AND THE REGULATIONS THAT THE PROJECT WAS EVALUATED AGAINST WOULD BE THE PETALUMA GENERAL PLAN, UH, THE IMPLEMENTING ZONING ORDINANCE, INCLUDING SECTION 4.040, WHICH ARE THE, UH, SITE PLANNING AND BUILDING STANDARDS FOR THE R THREE, UH, ZONING DISTRICT, AS WELL AS CHAPTER 15 FOR THE PRESERVATION OF THE CULTURAL AND HISTORIC ENVIRONMENT. AND SECTION 24.050, WHICH IS WHAT DIRECTS US ON HOW TO CONDUCT, UH, HISTORIC SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW, INCLUDING THE NOTICING THAT I PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED. THEN ADDITIONALLY, WE'LL BE, UH, CONSIDERING THE GUIDELINES AND STANDARDS CONTAINED IN THE OAK HILL BREWSTER, UH, HISTORIC DISTRICT PRESERVATION DOCUMENT FROM 1990, AS WELL AS THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR STANDARDS FOR THE TREATMENT OF HISTORIC PROPERTY SPECIFIC TO NEW CONSTRUCTION. SO THE PROJECT SITE IS LOCATED AT 5 26 OAK STREET, UH, WITHIN THE OAK HILL BREWSTER HISTORIC DISTRICT. WE CAN SEE, UH, THE MAP OF THE DISTRICT TO THE RIGHT WITH THE PROJECT SITE, UM, INDICATED BY A RED STAR. UH, THE PROJECT SITE IS DESIGNATED, UH, LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL BY THE GENERAL PLAN AND IS ZONED R THREE BY THE IMPLEMENTING ZONING COORDINATES. THE R THREE ZONING DISTRICT, IF WE REFER TO AS AN IMPLEMENTING ZONING DISTRICT OF THE, UH, GENERAL PLAN LAND USE DESIGNATION. UH, IN THE CASE OF THIS PROJECT, THE, UM, THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL DENSITY PROPOSED, SO THERE'S NO CONSTRUCTION OF A, OF AN ADDITIONAL DWELLING UNIT, AND SO IT DOES RETAIN ITS CONSISTENCY WITH THE GENERAL PLAN. THE PROJECT SITE IS APPROXIMATELY NINE, UH, 9,600 SQUARE FOOT PARCEL. THE ORIGINAL CONSTRUCTION WAS COMPLETED IN 1908. THERE HAVE BEEN MON MINOR MODIFICATIONS TO THE PROJECT SITE, UH, AND THAT WAS BOTH TO RECONSTRUCT THE GARAGE AND I BELIEVE TO CONSTRUCT A PATHWAY IN THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY AS WELL AS THE, UH, REAR DECK AND THEN MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THE INTERIOR OF THE SITE. THOSE WERE COMPLETED AROUND 2006. UH, PLANNING DOES FIND THAT THE PROJECT IS CONSISTENT WITH APPLICABLE GENERAL PLAN POLICIES, INCLUDING THAT THE, UH, THE PROJECT WOULD PRESERVE THE OVERALL SCALE AND CHARACTER OF THE ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THAT IT WOULD NOT SIGNIFICANTLY ALTER EITHER THE SCALE OR CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, UH, POLICY THREE DASH P DASH ONE, WHICH SEEKS TO PROTECT EXISTING HISTORIC RESOURCES FOR AESTHETIC, CULTURAL, EDUCATIONAL, ENVIRONMENTAL, ECONOMIC, AND SCIENTIFIC CONTRIBUTIONS THAT THEY MAKE TO MAINTAINING AND ENHANCING LINGS CHARACTER AND IDENTITY. UM, AND, UH, IT DOES REQUIRE THAT DISCRETIONARY REVIEW HELPS TO ENSURE THAT THIS POLICY IS ACHIEVED. AND WE ARE HERE THIS EVENING FOR DISCRETIONARY REVIEW. SO WE ARE, UH, CONSISTENT WITH THAT POLICY AS WELL. SO THE HISTORIC CONTEXT, WE CAN SEE, UH, HERE, AGAIN, ITS LOCATION WITHIN THE OAK HILL BREWSTER HISTORIC DISTRICT. AND THEN TO THE RIGHT IS A SANBORN MAP. THE SANBORN MAPS ARE, UH, WERE, WERE ORIGINALLY CREATED FOR INSURANCE PURPOSES, AND SO THEY'RE REALLY GREAT AT DOCUMENTING, UM, HISTORIC DEVELOPMENT AND DEVELOPMENT OVER TIME. UH, THIS MAP WAS ALSO, MAP IMAGE WAS ALSO SHARED IN THE STAFF REPORT. HERE YOU CAN SEE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. UM, WHAT'S MISSING FROM THE PROPERTY WHEN THE SANBORN MAP WAS CREATED IS, UH, THE EXISTING GARAGE, UH, THAT'S CURRENTLY IN PLACE. SO THE HISTORIC, THE OAK HILL BREWSTER HISTORIC DISTRICT IS, UH, PREDOMINANTLY COMPRISED OF RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES. THEY RANGED FROM, FROM PRETTY LARGE HOMES TO MORE MODEST HOMES. IT DOES HAVE TWO SCHOOL SITES AND SOME ASSOCIATED PROFESSIONAL OFFICES, UH, THAT ARE LOCATED ON THE PERIPHERY OF THE DISTRICT. UH, IT WAS LOCALLY DESIGNATED, UH, AND ITS GUIDELINES WERE ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL IN 1990. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS CLASSIFIED AS A CONTRIBUTOR TO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, HOWEVER, IT IS NOT A LIST OF PROPERTY. THE DISTRICT HAS A RANGE OF ARCHITECTURAL STYLES, INCLUDING VICTORIAN QUEEN ANNE COLONIAL REVIVAL, AND [00:20:01] CRAFTSMAN FORMS THE RESIDENTS AT 5 26 OAK STREET REFLECTS THE CRAFTSMAN BUNGALOW SUBTYPE, UH, THAT BECAME POPULAR BETWEEN 1905 AND 1925. AND SO THAT'S DEFINITELY ALIGNED WITH, UH, THE INITIAL DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROPERTY IN 1906 TO 1908. THE HALLMARKS OF THE CRAFTSMAN BUNDLE OF STYLE INCLUDE EXPOSED RAFTER OR OUTRIGGERS, LOW PITCHED ROOFS, UH, SUBSTANTIAL PORCH SUPPORTS, AND HANDCRAFTED WOOD DETAILING. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THOSE ARE ALL PRESENT IN, UH, THIS IMAGE OF THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT, UM, AND WELL MAINTAINED AT THIS POINT IN TIME. THE BUILDINGS DESIGN AND MATERIALS EXEMPLIFY THE EARLIEST 20TH CENTURY EMPHASIS ON SIMPLICITY, CRAFTSMANSHIP, AND INTEGRATION WITH THE SURROUNDING LANDSCAPE, DISTINGUISHING IT FROM THE MOR ORNATE VICTORIAN ARCHITECTURE OF THE PRECEDING DECADE. AND PERHAPS ON THE, THE PROPERTY ADJACENT IN THIS IMAGE, YOU CAN SEE A BIT OF THAT ORNAMENTATION ON THE FRONT PORCH WHERE THERE'S SOME WOOD, UH, TRIM DETAIL, ESPECIALLY THAT GIVES IT A, A, A SLIGHTLY MORE NATIVE APPEARANCE. AND SO, UH, HERE IN THIS IMAGE THING, WE, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE ARCHITECTURAL DESCRIPTION AND, AND PROVIDE SOME DETAILS THERE, SPECIFICALLY THE, UH, THE RESIDENCE, A ONE STORY WOOD FRAME BUNGALOW OF APPROXIMATELY 1300 SQUARE FEET OF PRESENT. THEY RESTS ON A CONCRETE FOUNDATION AND FEATURES A TRUNCATED HIP ROOF WITH FRONT AND REAR GABLES, UH, MODERATE EAVES, EXPOSED RAFTER TAILS AND DECORATIVE BRACKETS. THE ROOF THAT SHEATH THEN COM SHINGLES AND THE EXTERIOR WALLS ARE FINISHED IN NARROW DROP SIDING WITH CORNER BOARDS WITH A WIDER SHIPLAP BASE COURSE ALONG THE LOWER PORTION OF THE FACADE. SO HERE WE ARE, UM, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE, THE SHINGLING, AND THEN HERE IS THAT BASE FORCE. UH, THE WINDOWS THROUGHOUT THIS STRUCTURE ARE PRIMARILY, UH, ONE OVER ONE DOUBLE HUNG WOOD SASH WITH WOOD FRAMES AND NARROW CROWN MOLDINGS. AND, UH, THE SYMMETRICALLY PRIMARILY EAST BESIDE INCLUDES A CENTRALLY LOCATED WOOD ENTRY DOOR WITH SINGLE LIGHT OVER HORIZONTAL PANELS FLANKED BY TWO DOUBLE HUNG WINDOWS. SO FEATURE RIGHT HERE, AND WE LOOKED CLOSELY AT, AT THE NATURE OF THE WINDOWS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED. AND THEN THE ENTRY IS ACCENTUATED BY PROJECTING SQUARE BASE WITH WIDE DOUBLE HUNG WINDOWS ON EITHER SIDE. WE CAN SEE THAT, UH, HERE. AND THEN OVER HERE, THE GABLE FRONT PORCH EXTENDS FROM THE NORTH SIDE OF THE FACADE AND IS ACCESSED BY DOG LAKE CONCRETE STEPS WITH A WROUGHT IRON HANDRAIL. AND THE PORCH GABLE FEATURES DECORATIVE SHINGLES, SMALL CURVED MEDALLIONS, AND A BULL HORIZONTAL TWO LIGHT WINDOW IN THE GABLE BASE THAT'S UP HERE. AND THEN WE INCLUDED THE IMAGE TO THE RIGHT, BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE DETAILS OF THE, UH, FRONT PORCH AS IT WAS ORIGINALLY CONSTRUCTED, BUT, UH, LARGELY REFLECTS THE SAME DETAIL TODAY. THEN AT THE REAR OF THE GABLE ENCLOSED PORCH IN AN ADJACENT OPEN PORCH PROJECT FROM THE MAIN BODY OF THE HOUSE. THE SITE IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDE, UH, TERRACE FRONT YARD LANDSCAPING WITH CONCRETE RETAINING WALLS FEATURING BRICK DETAILING THE CONCRETE DRIVEWAY ALONG THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE AND DECORATIVE WOOD AND LATTICE FENCE AND CLOSING REAR YARD. THE ORIGINAL GARAGE THAT WAS ON THE SITE NO LONGER EXISTS. IT HAS BEEN REPLACED, AS I MENTIONED, UH, WITH SOME 2000, UH, WITH SOME MODIFICATIONS COMPLETED IN AROUND 2006, UH, WHICH WAS WHEN THE, UH, HISTORIC AND CULTURAL PRESERVATION COMMITTEE DID APPROVE THE DEMOLITION OF AN ORIGINAL, WHICH, UH, CONSTRUCTION OF THE DETACHED GARAGE AND CONVERSION OF THE ATTIC AND BASEMENT INTO LIVING SPACE, AS WELL AS SOME RELATED MINOR EXTERIOR MODIFICATIONS AND SITE IMPROVEMENTS. SO AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THE IMAGE OF THE SITE PLAN, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THE, UM, THE, UH, CLOSED CAPTIONING, TYPICALLY, IT DOESN'T SIT SO HIGH ON THE SLIDE. OH, YOU CAN, OH, OKAY. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. UM, SO THEN REFERRING TO THE SITE PLAN AND CONSIDERING THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR THE RESIDENTIAL THREE ZONING DISTRICT, WE FIND THAT THE PROJECT IS PROPOSED ON A LEGAL PARCEL. NO LOT LINE ADJUSTMENTS ARE PROPOSED AS PART OF THIS PROJECT, THEREFORE, THE PROJECT DOES COMPLY IN TERMS OF LOT SIZE WITH DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. UM, THE MINOR EXPANSION OF THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT TO THE REAR OF, UH, ON THE PROJECT'S [00:25:01] REAR ELEVATION TOWARDS THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY, UH, WOULD NOT RESULT IN, IN, UM, ANY POTENTIAL OR INTRUSION INTO REQUIRED, UH, REAR OR SIDE YARD SETBACKS. AND, UH, OTHERWISE THEN THE PROPOSED, UH, DECK EXPANSION, UH, DOES RETEN REMAIN OUTSIDE OF THE REQUIRED SIDE YARD SETBACK. AND SO THE EXPANSION AS A WHOLE WOULD BE FULLY OUTSIDE OF THE REAR YARD SETBACK, SIDE YARD SETBACKS, AND THEREFORE IT COMPLIES WITH THIS DEVELOPED STANDARD AS WELL. UH, THERE IS NO SIDE COVERAGE REQUIREMENT FOR THE R THREE DISTRICT, AND SO, UH, THERE'S, IT WOULD NOT BE SUBJECTED TO ANY SORT OF LACK COVERAGE PERCENTAGE EVALUATION. AND THE PROJECT IS REQUIRED TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE AT LEAST 600 SQUARE FEET OF USABLE OPEN SPACE, UH, WHICH IT DOES WELL ON THIS 9,600 SQUARE FOOT POND. THE, UM, OAK HILL BREWSTER HISTORIC DISTRICT GUIDELINES AND STANDARDS DO TALK ABOUT, UH, SETBACKS AND SIDE YARD REQUIREMENTS, UH, PLANNING EVALUATED, AND WE DO FIND THAT THE PROPOSED REAR EDITION IS SETBACK FROM THE BUILDINGS, UH, AS REQUIRED AND DOES NOT ALTER THE BUILDING'S CURRENT SETBACKS OR CHARACTER, UM, EITHER OF THE SIDE OR WITHIN THE DISTRICT ITSELF. AND THEN SIMILAR TO, UH, OTHER PROPERTIES WITHIN THE DISTRICT AND PROPERTIES FACING OAK STREET, THE BUILDING HAS A PROMINENT FRONT YARD WITH DRIVEWAY ACCESS AS WELL AS THE SIDE YARDS. AND AGAIN, THE REAR ADDITION WOULD NOT ALTER, UH, THE SIDE'S EXISTING WEST SIDE YARD OR, UM, MODIFY THE CHARACTER OF THE PROJECT SIDE IN RELATION TO THE DISTRICT. SO I WANNA SPEND A FEW MINUTES ON GOING THROUGH SOME OF THE STANDARDS USING THIS IMAGE HERE OF THE FRONT ELEVATIONS. AND THEN, UH, WE'LL BRIEFLY REVIEW THE SIDE AND REAR ELEVATIONS BEFORE MOVING ON TO SOME OF THE, UH, OTHER SITE PLAN CONSIDERATIONS. SO THE, UH, PROJECT PROPOSES WITH THE, UH, SECOND COMMERCIAL, SECOND STORY EDITION, WHICH WE SEE, UH, TO THE RIGHT. UM, IT DOES, UH, PROPOSE A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 24 FEET, 11 INCHES, WHICH IS TO THE MIDPOINT OF THE GABLE, OR RIGHT ABOUT THE, UH, THE LINE HEIGHT OF THE DORMERS. AND THIS IS HOW WE MEASURE BUILDING HEIGHT IN THE CITY OF PETALUMA. WE DON'T MEASURE UP TO THE HIGHEST POINT OF THE ROOF LINE. AND, UH, THIS HEIGHT WOULD BE WITHIN THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE HEIGHT, UH, FOR PRINCIPAL BUILDINGS IN THE R THREE ZONING DISTRICT, WHICH IS, UM, 25 FEET. UH, IN TERMS OF THE, THE HISTORIC DISTRICT GUIDELINES AND STANDARDS, UH, WE DO FIND THAT THAT, UH, TWO STORY RESIDENCES ARE A COMMON FEATURE ON THE OAK STREET BETWEEN HOWARD AND WALNUT STREET. WE WOULD POINT OUT THAT THIS IS A PARTIAL SECOND STORY EDITION, UH, TO THE CRAFTSMAN BUNGALOW. UH, WE TYPICALLY FIND THAT CRAFTSMAN STYLE HOMES DO NOT HAVE A FULL TWO STORY, BUT THEY WOULD HAVE THAT PARTIAL SECOND STORY ADDITION FROM TIME TO TIME. UM, THE, AND, AND SO THE, THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE OF THE EXISTING RESIDENCE DOES NOT PRECLUDE THE ADDITION OF THE PARTIAL UPPER STORY, AND THE ARRANGEMENT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH OTHER RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES ALONG OAK STREET AND WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ITSELF. THERE IS NO STRONG DISTINCTIVE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN 5 26 OAK STREET, AND ITS IMMEDIATELY NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES THAT IN ADDITION OF THE UPPER STORY WOULD IMPACT. AND THE PROPOSED, UH, PARTIAL SECOND FLOOR ADDITION, WHICH BEGINS APPROXIMATELY AT THE MIDPOINT OF THE EXISTING STRUCTURE'S HIP ROOF, DOES PRESERVE, UH, THE PREDOMINANT GABLE AT THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE AND MAINTAINS THE CRAFTSMAN ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN, PUBLIC ORIGINAL STRUCTURE. THE ROOF LINE, UH, IS DESIGNED TO ENSURE THAT THE OVERALL FORM AND MASSING, UH, CONTINUE TO REFLECT THE HOME'S ORIGINAL ARCHITECTURAL LANGUAGE. AND IN TERMS OF THE FACADE, THE PROPORTIONS OF THE NEW EDITION ARE ADDRESSED BY SETTING IT BACK, UH, SETTING THAT SECOND PARTIAL OR THAT PARTIAL SECOND STORY BACK IN ORDER TO PRESERVE THE SCALE AND PROMINENCE OF THE HISTORIC FACADE FACING THE STREET. AND, UH, THIS APPROACH IS NECESSARY AND, UH, BENEFICIAL GIVEN THE VARIETY OF BUILDING STYLES AND PROPORTIONS PRESENT OR PRESENT IN THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND SO WE CAN SEE THAT HERE WE HAVE SOME OF THE RENDERING OF, UM, HOW THE PROJECT WOULD LOOK FROM THE, THE WEST SIDE, AS WELL AS FROM THE EAST SIDE, BOTH THE EXISTING ELEVATIONS TO THE LEFT, AND THEN THOSE PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS AS VIEWED FROM THE RIGHT REVIEWED ON THE RIGHT. AND THEN AGAIN, LOOKING AT THE, UH, REAR ELEVATIONS EXISTING ON THE LEFT. AND THEN, UM, WITH THE PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS [00:30:01] ON THE RIGHT IN TERMS OF MODIFICATIONS OUTSIDE OF THE EXISTING RESIDENCE, UH, THE PROJECT DOES PROPOSE NEW FENCING. IT IS LOCATED, UM, WITHIN THE PROPERTY LINE, UH, WHEREVER IT IS PROPOSED. AND THE FIVE FOOT HEIGHT OF THE SOLID FENCE DESIGN IS WITHIN THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE HEIGHT, UM, OF A SIX FEET FOOT SOLID FENCE IN THE R THREE ZONING DISTRICT. THEREFORE, IT DOES COMPLY WITH THIS DEVELOPED STANDARD. THE PROJECT PROPOSES A MODIFICATION TO AN EXISTING PATHWAY, AS WELL AS SOME LANDSCAPING IN THE REAR, IN THE REAR YARD. UH, THESE MINOR MODIFICATIONS WOULD NOT BE SUBJECT TO LANDSCAPE REGULATIONS. HOWEVER, WE DO HAVE A CONDITION OF APPROVAL IN THE RESOLUTION ALERTING THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT SHOULD THEY ENGAGE IN MORE EXTENSIVE LANDSCAPE MODIFICATIONS IN THE FUTURE, UH, THAT YOU, YOU WOULD WANT TO CONSULT WITH PLANNING DIVISION TO SEE IF THOSE MODIFICATIONS MAY REQUIRE FURTHER REVIEW. THE MATERIALS BOARD, UH, IS NEXT, AND IT REFLECTS THE, UM, THE PROPOSED COMPOSITE SHINGLES, UH, THE TRANSITION TO A FIBER CEMENT SIDING IN BOTH THE SIDING FORM AND A, UH, SHINGLE FORM. AND THEN THE, UH, DECKING, WHICH IS A WOODLAND FIRE RESISTANT PVC DECKING, THAT'S A TIMBER TECH PRODUCT OR SOMETHING SIMILAR. AND THEN WE SEE THE, UH, DOUBLE HUNG WINDOWS, UH, WITH DETAIL, AND IT IS A WOOD FRAME WITH ALUMINUM CLADDING. UH, IN THE CITY OF PETALUMA, WE DO ALLOW TWO WINDOW TYPES IN OUR HISTORIC DISTRICTS AND ON OUR HISTORIC HOMES, EITHER A WOOD WINDOW OR A CLAD WOOD WINDOW. UM, THE IMPORTANT DISTINCTION THERE IS WITH A CLAD WOOD WINDOW, BECAUSE THAT WINDOW FRAME IS, IS WOOD, AS ITS BASED PRODUCT OR BASED MATERIAL, IT DOES RETAIN THE DIMENSIONALITY ABOVE DIMENSIONAL WINDOWS. UH, WE DON'T SEE THAT WHEN WE'RE USING FIBERGLASS WINDOWS OR BLIND WINDOWS. AND SO THAT'S AN IMPORTANT DISTINCTION. UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, THE, THE COLOR CHOICES WHICH ARE, ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING RESIDENTS. THE MATERIALS ARE HISTORICALLY APPROPRIATE. UM, HOWEVER, THEY ARE MAKING THE DELIBERATE CHOICE TO USE A FIBER SMITH SHINGLE SIDING ON THE ADDITIONS, UH, WHICH IS NOTED TO HAVE A LARGER SCALE AND SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT TEXTURE THAN THE EXISTING WOOD SHINGLES. ADDITIONALLY, THE NEW WINDOWS FROM INTENTIONALLY SIMPLIFIED OMITTING DIVIDED LIGHT PATTERNS FOUND ON THE EXISTING PRIMARY WINDOWS, PROVIDING FURTHER DISTINCTION AND DETAILING AND PROPORTION. AND WHILE THE MATERIAL TYPE IS APPROPRIATE, THE TEXTURES AND PROPORTIONS OF THE NEW SHINGLE SIDING AND WINDOW DETAILING ARE INCONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING HISTORIC FABRIC, UH, RESULTING IN A FINDING OF INCONSISTENCY WITH THIS GUIDELINE. THIS IS WHERE I'D LIKE TO POINT BACK TO MY EARLIER SLIDES WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT CONSISTENCY VERSUS COMPLIANCE. WHEN WE'RE WORKING WITH GUIDELINES, POLICY STANDARDS AND SUCH, IT IS, IT IS OKAY TO NOT FIND CONSISTENCY WITH ALL OF THE APPLICABLE GUIDELINES STANDARDS, UH, IN THE, UM, OAK HILL BOOSTER HISTORIC DISTRICT, UH, DOCUMENT, ALL OF THE COLORS ARE PROPOSED TO REMAIN CONSISTENT WITH THE ORIGINAL CORE BUILDING. IN TERMS OF PUBLIC OUTREACH AND COMMENTS, THE, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS AND APPLICANT HELD THE NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH MEETING. IT WAS A VIRTUAL MEETING ON AUGUST 12TH, 2025. UM, NO, UH, MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY ATTENDED THAT MEETING. HOWEVER, AS PART OF THEIR REPORT ON THAT MEETING, THE PROPERTY OWNERS DID INDICATE THAT THEY HAD SPOKEN WITH ADJACENT NEIGHBORS, UH, WHO WERE IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT. ADDITIONALLY, THE PROJECT WAS REQUIRED TO NOTICE THIS EVENING'S PUBLIC HEARING. UH, THAT NOTICE WAS PUBLISHED IN THE AUGUST COURIER ON OCTOBER 24TH, WHICH IS AT LEAST 10 DAYS PRIOR TO THIS MEETING AS REQUIRED BY, UH, REGULATIONS. UH, MAILED NOTICE WAS DISTRIBUTED TO PROPERTY OWNERS AND OCCUPANTS WITHIN 500 FEET OF THE SITE AGAIN, UM, ON THE SAME DATE OF OCTOBER 24TH. AND, UH, THE PROPERTY OWNERS INSTALLED THE REQUIRED ONSITE SIGNAGE. SO THE PROJECT DID COMPLY WITH ALL PUBLIC NOTICING REQUIREMENTS. UM, IN TERMS OF PUBLIC COMMENTS, UH, I, I BELIEVE THIS WAS MAYBE DURING THE NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH MEETING, UH, THAT THIS PUBLIC COMMENT WAS RECEIVED OR PERHAPS AFTERWARDS, UH, BUT SOME CONCERN OVER CONSTRUCTION AND NOISE FROM THE HVAC CONDENSER UNIT, [00:35:01] WHICH IS BEING RELOCATED ON THE PROPERTY. UM, MITIGATION MEASURES WERE DISCUSSED. THE HVAC UNIT IS, UH, SHIFTING TO A DIFFERENT MODEL, WHICH IS A QUIETER MODEL. AND THEN, OF COURSE, UH, CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY IS REGULATED BY THE CITY. UM, AND THOSE HOURS ARE PROVIDED TO, UM, THE, UH, THE APPLICANT. THEIR CONSTRUCTION TEAMS ARE TYPICALLY WELL AWARE OF THOSE HOURS AND, AND FULLY COMPLIANT, BUT WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY WRITTEN PUBLIC COMMENTS IN RESPONSE TO THE PUBLIC NOTICE. SO AGAIN, IN TERMS OF CONSISTENCY WITH THE THE GENERAL PLAN, WE DO FIND THAT THERE WAS NO CHANGE IN DENSITY OR THE SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING LAND USE. AND SO THE PROJECT IS CONSISTENT WITH, UH, WHAT SHOULD BE IT'S, IT'S, UH, LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL LAND USE DESIGNATION. SORRY ABOUT THAT. AND, UH, THEN THE PROJECT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE APPLICABLE GENERAL PLAN POLICIES, UM, REGARDING THE OVERALL STEALING CHARACTER OF THE ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THEN PROTECTING OF HISTORIC RESOURCES AND CONTINUING TO ENHANCE PETALUMA'S CHARACTER IDENTITY AND QUALITY MARKET. UH, AS WE DISCUSSED, THE PROJECT DOES FULLY COMPLY WITH ALL APPLICABLE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR THE R THREE ZONING DISTRICT. AND THEN WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT CONSISTENCY WITH THE OLD HILL BREWSTER GUIDELINES AND STANDARDS, UH, FINDING THAT, UH, THE PROJECT IS CONSISTENT IN STYLE AND DESIGN, GENERALLY CONSISTENT IN ARRANGEMENT, UM, PERHAPS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF HEIGHT, WHICH WAS FULLY DISCUSSED IN THE, UH, STAFF REPORT. AND THEN GENERALLY CONSISTENT AGAIN WITH REGARD TO TEXT STRING MATERIALS, UH, WITH THE INCONSISTENCY, UM, CONCERNING MATERIALS AS WE DISCUSSED EARLIER. AND THEN IN TERMS OF COLOR, THE PROJECT IS, UH, CONSISTENT WITH, UM, A TYPICAL COLOR PALETTE FOR THE, UH, CRAFTSMAN STYLE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN. THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR STANDARDS ARE SOME ADDITIONAL CONSISTENCY FINDINGS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE. AND, UH, WHEN WE THINK OF THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR STANDARDS, WE DO THINK, UH, MORE BROADLY, RIGHT, BECAUSE THEY'RE NATIONAL LEVEL STANDARDS, AND SO, UH, TO BE APPLIED THROUGHOUT THE NATION TO A WIDE VARIETY OF, OF, UM, DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES. UM, THEY, THEY'RE PERHAPS A BIT MORE BROAD, BUT THEY'RE STILL, THEY'RE STILL, UM, THEY DO INFORM PROJECTS AND THEY DO IN A FOUR HOUR REVIEW PROCESS AND, AND ARE, UH, QUITE SIGNIFICANT. UH, NO CHANGES ARE PROPOSED TO THE USE OF THE BUILDING AS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE. UH, THE PROPOSED WORK IN DESIGN DO NOT IMPACT THE BUILDING'S HISTORIC CHARACTER SINCE THE ADDITIONS ARE COMPATIBLE, UH, IN DESIGN AND MATERIALS WITH THE EXISTING DWELLING. THE, UH, PROPOSED ADDITION AND EXPANSION WOULD NOT CREATE A FALSE SENSE OF HISTORICAL DEVELOPMENT. UM, IT DOES NOT ADD CONJECTURAL FEATURES OR ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS FROM OTHER BUILDINGS TO THE CORE BUILDINGS ORIGINAL, UH, CRAFTSMAN ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN. AND WHAT I'M GOING TO ASK HEATHER TO DO DURING YOUR PRESENTATION IS POINT OUT SOME OF THE DIFFERENCES, UH, DESIGN DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE EXISTING STRUCTURE AND THEN THE SECOND STORY EDITION, AND WE'LL SEE WHERE THAT DISTINCTION HAPPENS AND WHY THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIORS STANDARDS WANT TO SEE THAT DISTINCTION SO THAT YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL STRUCTURE AND THEN WHAT WAS, UH, UM, MODIFICATIONS TO THAT STRUCTURE. UH, THERE ARE MINOR, THE MINOR EXTERIOR ALTERATIONS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED AND HAVE TAKEN PLACE OVER TIME HAVE CONTINUED TO UPHOLD THE ORIGINAL CRAFTSMAN ARCHITECTURAL STYLE. UM, AND, UH, THE PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS CONTINUE TO PRESERVE THE BUILDINGS BY CRAFTSMAN ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES AND, UH, CONTINUE ITS EXTERIOR FINISHES TO THE REAR ADDITION AND, UM, THE REAR PORCH ENCLOSURE, INCLUDING ROOFING, SIDING, TRIM. THEN WE GO ON. THERE ARE NO HISTORIC FEATURES THAT ARE DETERIORATED OR REQUIRING REPAIR. UH, THE PROJECT DESCRIPTION AND ITS ARCHITECTURAL DRAWINGS DO NOT INDICATE THE USE OF CHEMICAL OR PHYSICAL TREATMENTS, UM, TO THE STRUCTURE. HOWEVER, WE DO HAVE A CONDITION OF APPROVAL IN, UH, THE RESOLUTION FOR THIS PROJECT BEFORE WOULD REQUIRE THAT THEY TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION IF THEY WOULD CHOOSE TO ENGAGE IN, UM, SOME REHABILITATION OR, UM, RENOVATION THAT WOULD REQUIRE THE USE OF, OF, UH, CHEMICAL OR PHYSICAL TREATMENT, UM, ARCHEOLOGICAL RESOURCES, UM, THAT MAY BE DISCOVERED DURING, UH, THE ACTIVITIES OF CONSTRUCTING THE GROUND FLOOR EXPANSION OR THE REAR DECK, UH, ARE REQUIRED TO BE PROTECTED AND PRESERVED IN PLACE THROUGH CONDITIONS OF [00:40:01] APPROVAL. AND THEN THE NEW WORK IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE BUILDING'S SPAN SIZE, SCALE, AND ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES THAT WOULD NOT IMPACT THE BUILDING'S HISTORIC INTEGRITY. FINALLY, THE RARE EXPANSION IN THE PARTIAL SECOND STORY EDITION COULD BE REMOVED IN THE FUTURE WITHOUT IMPAIRING THE CORE BUILDING'S ESSENTIAL FORM AND INTEGRITY. BECAUSE THIS PROJECT DOES REQUIRE DISCRETIONARY REVIEW, IF IT IS SUBJECT TO ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW UNDER THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT, UH, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE PROJECT BE FOUND TO BE CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT, UH, FROM FURTHER REVIEW UNDER CWA IN THAT, UH, IT IS A MODIFICATIONS TO AN EXISTING FACILITY FOR WHICH ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW WAS CONDUCTED AT A, AT A PREVIOUS POINT IN TIME. UH, THE EXEMPTIONS DO ALLOW FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION OR CONVERSION OF SMALL STRUCTURES. AND THEN, UM, WITH REGARD TO, UH, WHAT WOULD BE A CLASS THREE ONE EXEMPTION, UM, IT DOES FIND THAT THE PROJECT DOES INVOLVE MODIFICATIONS TO AN EXISTING RESIDENTIAL BUILDING, UH, WHICH IS A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE TO INCLUDE THE CONSTRUCTION OF, OF A FENCE AND THE DECK. UM, HOWEVER, IT DOES, UH, THE PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS ARE WITHIN THE, UM, EXTENT ALLOWED BY THE CLASS 31 EXEMPTION. THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS TO THE EXEMPTION, UM, THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO REVIEW. WE DID REVIEW THE EXCEPTIONS, POTENTIAL EXCEPTIONS TO THE EXEMPTIONS AND BOUND THAT NONE OF THOSE EXCEPTIONS ARE TRIGGERED, UM, PRECLUDING THE USE OF THESE EXEMPTIONS. AND SO WITH THAT, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO, UH, HCPC THIS EVENING, UM, IS TO, UH, APPROVE HISTORIC SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW FOR THE PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE CONSTRUCTION OF A 113 SQUARE FOOT ONE STORY ADDITION TO THE REAR OF THE STRUCTURE, A NEW 722 SQUARE FOOT, PARTIAL SECOND STORY ADDITION, RECONFIGURATION OF THE EXISTING PARKING AREA, AND THEN CONSTRUCTION OF AN EXPANDED REAR RAISED DECK. AND, UH, WITH THAT CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO THE APPLICANT'S DESIGN TEAM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YEAH, IF WE WANNA INTRODUCE OURSELVES, I'M LAURA, WHO'S JASON HERE, OWNERS. UM, THIS IS HALF OF OUR FAMILY. THE REST IS OUR 1-YEAR-OLD, 3-YEAR-OLD AND DOG. WE'RE AT HOME WITH GRANDPARENTS. UM, ALSO THINK GUYS HAVE SEEN, OUR GOAL FOR THIS IS REALLY JUST TO MAKE THE HOUSE WORK FOR OUR FAMILY FOR MANY YEARS TO CONSTANTLY WE CAN STAY IN AN AREA THAT WE GROWN TO LOVE, UH, AND SETTLE IN THAT. AND, UM, AND YEAH, OUR, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE NOT TRYING TO, I THINK, CHANGE WHAT WE FELL IN LOVE WITH, WHICH WAS THIS HOUSE AND, UM, THE ARCHITECTURE AND HISTORY OF IT ALL, AND BEING AN UPHILL BREWSTER DISTRICT, UM, WE LOVE, SO WE'VE, UM, BEEN REALLY THOUGHTFUL ABOUT THE EXPANSION AND KEEPING IT HONEST AND, AND MAKING IT FEEL TRUE TO THE HOMES INTEGRITY AND TEXT DID A GREAT JOB AT THAT. SO I'LL SORT OF TURN IT OVER TO THEM TO EXPLAIN MY ALL GOOD FUNDING. THANKS. YEAH. SEEMS TO BE WORKING ON. THANK YOU, ANDREW. SURE. I'M HEATHER FROM FLOYD, FROM M UM, EXCITED TO PRESENT THIS DESIGN TO EVERYBODY'S TONIGHT. SO WHEN WE FIRST MET LAURA AND JASON, YOU KNOW, THEY SHOWED US HOW MUCH THEY LOVE FOR, AND THEY ALSO HAVE HAD A GROWING FAMILY, HAVE A GROWING FAMILY, UM, SINCE WE STARTED WORKING TOGETHER, A A NEW ADDITIONS JOINED YOUNGEST DAUGHTER. UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, FAMILIES NEED SPACE. THIS IS A VERY EXISTING HOUSE, IT'S VERY SMALL. UM, AND SO WE WENT ABOUT THOUGHTFULLY LOOKING AT HOW WE COULD ADD FUNCTIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGE TO THE HOUSE, AS WELL AS, UM, CREATE MORE FUNCTIONAL INTERIOR SPACE. UM, AND JUST ON A HIGH LEVEL, YOU KNOW, OLD HOUSES HAVE VERY COMPARTMENTALIZED LITTLE INTERIOR SPACES THAT MAKE IT REALLY HARD TO GATHER AS A FAMILY. UM, AND THERE WERE A LOT OF PINCH POINTS, AND SO WE WERE ADDRESSING THOSE THINGS WHILE KEEPING THE CHARACTER AND THE DEFINING FEATURES OF THE EXISTING HOME. UM, SO THERE YOU GO. OVERALL CONTEXT. I THINK ANDREW TOUCHED ON THIS. I DON'T NEED TO TO BELABOR IT, BUT, UM, THEY'RE IN A BEAUTIFUL, THE OAK HILL BREWSTER HISTORIC DISTRICT. UM, AND BEING A PART OF THAT IS IMPORTANT TO THEM, AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO ME AS AN ARCHITECT FOR STUFF. UM, HERE ARE SOME OVERALL VIEWS OF THE PROPERTY, UM, AS IT EXISTS TODAY, THANKS TO DRONES. UM, , IT'S SUPER HELPFUL TO SEE HOW THING, HOW THE MASSING SITS [00:45:01] ON THE SITE. ONE THING I WANNA POINT OUT ALSO IS ON THE UPPER RIGHT IMAGE, UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE STREET DROPS DOWN IN A WAY. AND SO ONE OF OUR CONSIDERATIONS WHEN ADDING A SECOND STORY, WHICH WE DID INTENTIONALLY TO OR PARTIAL SECOND STORY INTENTIONALLY, TO KEEP THE CHARACTER OF THE, THE SITE, YOU KNOW, UN IMPEDED BY DEVELOPMENT IN THE REAR SO THAT THEY COULD USE THEIR REAR YARD AND ACTUALLY IMPROVE THE REAR YARD FUNCTION. UM, BUT WE DIDN'T WANNA CREATE A, YOU KNOW, DOUBLE STORY FACADE, UM, VISIBLE FROM THE STREET, AND SO WE INTENTIONALLY SET IT BACK. AND ADDING TO THAT SETBACK IS THE POSITIONING ON THE STREET. SO IF YOU'RE STANDING ON THE STREET LOOKING AT THIS, I THINK OUR, OUR 3D VIEWS ARE ACTUALLY A LITTLE HIGHER THAN SOME AREAS WHERE YOU'D BE STANDING ON THE STREETS. SEE, IT'S ACTUALLY WOULD BE REALLY SUBTLE, THIS ADDITION, UM, IN OUR MINDS EXISTING, UM, VIEWS. AND YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT IMAGE HOW THAT, IF YOU CAN ENVISION HOW THE SECOND STORY GOES ON THERE, IT, YOU BARELY EVEN SEE IT FROM THAT KIND OF DOWNHILL SIDE, AND THEN YOU START TO SEE IT AS YOU TURN TO THE FRONT. UM, BUT IT WAS VERY INTENTIONAL TO KEEP THE EXISTING GABLE ON THE FI FRONT, THE EXISTING PORCH, THE EXISTING WINDOW, LOCATIONS AND FORMS. UM, WE ARE PROPOSING REPLACING THEM BECAUSE IT'S REALLY NICE TO HAVE DOUBLE PLAN WINDOWS THESE DAYS. AND, UM, THE CLADDING WILL HELP PRESERVE THOSE WINDOWS LONG TERM. SO THE SCOPE OF WORK, UM, I'LL JUST GO OVER A HIGH LEVEL. ANDREW OBVIOUSLY TOUCHED ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, UM, LAYOUT, RECONFIGURATION AND WINDOW REPLACEMENT, UM, OF THE FLOOR PLAN. UM, AS WELL AS THAT ADDITION OF THE PARTIAL SECOND STORY, UM, THE SMALL REAR ADDITION ON THE MAIN LEVEL, WHICH BASICALLY SQUARES OFF OR EXTENDS THAT EXISTING WALL LINE IN THE REAR. UM, SECOND STORY EDITION, WHICH ALLOWS US TO ADD TWO KIDS' BEDROOMS, UM, AND A FEW, AND A BATHROOM AND LITTLE OFFICE SPACE. UM, RECONFIGURED DRIVEWAY AND PARKING, WHICH ACTUALLY MAKES THE PARKING A LITTLE MORE MODEST AND GIVES BACK TO A LOT ITSELF, UM, IN KIND FRONT WALL REPAIR, THAT, THAT EXISTING FRONT BRICK WALL IS DETERIORATING A BIT. AND SO SOME LOVE, UM, BUT IT WE'RE INTENDING TO REPLACE IT IN KIND. UM, THE REAR FENCE SEPARATING THE DRIVEWAY, THE NEW KIND OF, UH, TIGHTENED UP DRIVEWAY FROM THE DECK IS TO BE REPLACED, BUT THAT'S NOT ON THE PROPERTY LINE. UM, AND THEN RELOCATION OF THE HV UNIT AS WELL AS , THE REASONS FOR THE REMODEL, AND LAURA TOUCHED ON THIS. UM, EXPANDING THE HOME TO ACCOMMODATE A GROWING FAMILY IN MODERN TIMES. UM, RESOLVING EGRESS CHALLENGES SPECIFICALLY THAT EVERYBODY LIKES TO HANG OUT IN THE KITCHEN, IT'S TIGHT KITCHEN . UM, SO CREATING A, A LITTLE BIT MORE OPEN FEELING. UM, AND IT'S, IT'S ENHANCING CIRCULATION AND FLOW THROUGHOUT THE RESIDENTS OF A LOT IN OUR OPINION, AS WELL AS IMPROVING ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND OVERALL COMFORT, UM, THROUGH THE WINDOW UPGRADES, MECHANICAL SYSTEM ENHANCEMENTS, AND ELECTRICAL IMPROVEMENTS. AND I WANNA TOUCH ON THAT BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THE, UM, WE'RE NOT, THERE WERE A FEW ITEMS CIRCLED AS LIKE, NOT FULLY THE SAME AS THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE BREWSTER DISTRICT, WHICH I THINK, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO UPGRADE MATERIALS AND, UM, TO MODERN STANDARDS. AND SO THOSE ARE THE REASONS THAT WE'RE INTENTIONALLY DOING THAT. THE SITE PLAN ANDREW TOUCHED ON, UM, WE'VE TRIED TO CREATE A REALLY MODEST SINGLE STORY FOOTPRINT. UM, WE LOOKED AT VERSIONS WHERE WE WOULD HAVE EXTENDED AND GONE OUT ON A, A SINGLE STORY. UM, BUT IT REALLY WOULD'VE TAKEN AWAY FROM THE CHARACTER OF THE LOT, UM, AND THE FUNCTION OF THE LOT. THESE ARE THE EXISTING PLANS, UM, FOR REFERENCE. AND YOU CAN SEE IN THE BACK RIGHT CORNER THE AREAS THAT WE'RE TOUCHING THE MOST. THAT KITCHEN . UH, THERE'S A BEDROOM THAT'S A BIT OF A HALLWAY RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS A LITTLE AWKWARD. UM, WE'RE TRYING TO PRESERVE THE EXISTING AND WINDOW PLACEMENT AND SHAPES INTENTIONALLY TO KEEP WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE HOUSE. AND THEN JUMPING TO THE EX, THE PROPOSED, YOU CAN SEE HOW WE'RE DOING THAT. WE'RE ACTUALLY SHIFTING THE PRIMARY SUITE UP TO THE FRONT LEFT, UM, AND THEN THE KIDS' BEDROOMS GO UPSTAIRS, UM, WHILE CREATING, UH, WHAT WE THINK IS REALLY NICE AND APPROPRIATE INTERIOR SPACE FOR SOCIALIZATION. [00:50:01] UM, THE UPSTAIRS WE, AS YOU CAN, AS YOU I MENTIONED, WE'RE PUSHING IT TOWARDS THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY, BUT WE ARE ALSO, UM, CREATING LIKE A WATERLINE ROOF THAT GOES AROUND. YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THE CENTER VIEW THAT MAKES IT SO THAT YOU DON'T SEE A TWO STORY FACADE FROM ANY ONE POINT, WHICH WE THINK FURTHER DIFFERENTIATES THAT UPPER STORY, WHICH IS ONE OF THE INTENTIONAL PROOFS HERE. UM, EXISTING ELEVATIONS, WHICH ANDREW TOUCHED ON, UM, WE REALLY WANTED TO PRESERVE THE CHARACTER AT THE FRONT. THAT WAS ONE OF OUR MISSIONS FROM THE BEGINNING, THE REAR CHARACTER, UM, I THINK THAT HAD BEEN ALTERED PREVIOUSLY. AND SO WE DIDN'T FEEL AS ALIGNED WITH KEEPING THAT EXACTLY AS IS. AND WE FEEL THAT WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING BRINGS IT, UM, TO A REALLY NICE PLACE WHERE THE HOUSE IS STILL THAT CRAFTSMAN BUNGALOW FEEL. UM, SO LOOKING AT THE PROPOSED REAR, WE'VE OPENED UP A LITTLE BIT, BUT NOT TO A POINT WHERE IT'S EXCEEDINGLY MODERN. UM, WE THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO THE STRUCTURE. UM, AND THEN YOU CAN, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE UPPER STORY, WE'RE INTENTIONALLY JUST PROPOSING SHINGLES. UM, AND THOSE SHINGLES ARE A LITTLE BIT LARGER SCALE THAN THEY EXISTING. THEY'RE, UM, ALREADY PLAYING, UH, PARTY PANEL SHINGLES, WHICH ARE ALSO FIRE RESISTANT, EVEN IN A NON WOOY DISTRICT. WHILE THE URBAN INTERFACE, WE'RE ALWAYS CONSCIOUS OF MAKING ANYTHING. WE DO A RESILIENT CONSTRUCTION THAT'S GONNA LAST, UM, AT HEALTH ENHANCED SAFETY. SO THAT SETS APART THE LOWER STORY EXISTING FROM THE UPPER STORY, JUST THAT, UM, SLIGHT CHANGE IN SCALE AND SLIGHT DIFFERENT TREATMENT OF MATERIALS AS WELL AS NOT INCORPORATING BUBBLES, UM, THAT ARE PRESENT ON THE EXISTING GABLE. UM, SO WE'RE NOT TRYING TO CREATE A MINI ME UP THERE , FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD. UM, WE'RE TRYING TO STAY IN THE CONTEXT WHILE CLEARLY DIFFERENTIATING THAT UP STORY. UM, SO YOU CAN SEE THESE 3D VIEWS, AND I ACTUALLY THINK THIS IS A LESS FAVORABLE VIEW THAN IF YOU WERE MAYBE STANDING DOWN THE STREET A LITTLE BIT. YOU WE WOULD, IT WOULD BE HARD TO SEE THAT SECOND STORY OR REALLY SUBTLE. SO WE'RE STANDING KIND OF MIDDLE OF THE ROAD HERE, LOOKING STRAIGHT ON, DEPENDING ON YOUR HEIGHT, YOU SEE THIS, UM, SECOND STORY ADDITIONAL ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, A LITTLE BIT OF A DOOR PEEKING OUT THE RIGHT ADDITIONAL 3D VIEWS EXISTING AND PROPOSED. UM, SO THE LOWER ARE EXISTING FROM TWO OTHER ANGLES COVER PROPOSED, SO YOU CAN SEE HOW THE MASSING OF THE ADDITION WOULD SIT ON THE STRUCTURE. TWO MORE VIEWS, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, SOME MAGIC OF 3D MODELING AND THE MATERIALS. ANDREW TOUCHED ON THIS. UM, WE ARE MODERNIZING THE MATERIALS FOR FUNCTION, UH, LONGEVITY, COMFORT, UM, WHILE KEEPING THE LOOK AND FEEL CONSISTENT WITH, UM, THE STYLE OF THE BUNGALOW STYLES THAT IT FEELS LIKE IT, IT'S INTENTIONALLY, UH, DONE TO WORK WITH THE EXISTING STRUCTURE, BUT IT'S EXACTLY THE SAME OR IT . I THINK THAT IS WHAT'S NEXT CHAIR. SO WE CAN GO TO QUESTIONS. OKAY. UH, STAFF, IS IT, UH, QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR YEAH. YES. WHAT'S THE EXISTING ROOF MATERIAL? IT'S ASPHALT SHINGLE EXISTING, SORRY, ASPHALT SHINGLE. SO IT'S THE SAME, IT'S THE SINK, THE SAME MATERIAL. ARE THE CURRENT WINDOWS THEY'RE GETTING REPLACED AS WELL? IS THAT THE, THE, YES. OKAY, GOT IT. SO THE ONES WE'RE SEEING ARE, ARE THEY ORIGINAL? YES. MANY OF THEM. UH, THE NON-ORIGINAL WINDOWS WERE WHEN, YEAH. 'CAUSE I THINK THERE'S TWO. YEAH, THERE'S JUST A FEW ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE HOUSE. IT DON'T WORK. IT SHOULD BE, YEAH. BUT THE ORIGINAL WINDOWS, AS YOU MIGHT GUESS, AREN'T FUNCTIONING AS WELL AS THEY WANT. SIT, REPLACEMENT OR QUESTION AGAIN ON, UH, PARKING IMPACT. TANDEM PARKING, [00:55:01] IN MY EXPERIENCE. HAS HE BEEN SUCCESSFUL? UM, IT LOOKS LIKE A BUSY STREET. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF PARKING ON THAT STREET. UH, IN YOUR EXPERIENCE, DOES TANDEM PARKING ACTUALLY WORK OR DO PEOPLE GENERALLY PARK ON THE STREET RATHER THAN JOGGLE? WELL, WE DON'T, THE, THE REGULATIONS REALLY JUST POINT TO THE MINIMUM REQUIRED NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES, AND THAT CAN BE A SIDE BY SIDE ARRANGEMENT OR TANDEM. OH, I, IT IS A GREAT QUESTION AND I THINK I WOULD DIRECT TO THE, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS TO TALK THROUGH HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT IT. IT IS, IT IS SOMEWHAT SURPRISING THAT, UH, THAT YOU WOULD CHOOSE TO GO WITH THE TANDEM PARKING DESIGN. SO IF YOU'D LIKE THEM TO RESPOND YEAH, HAPPY TO. UM, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE DEFINITELY LOOKED AT VERY CLOSELY AND DONE SOME ROLE PLAYING IN A WAY IN THE, IN THE YARD, TRYING THAT OUT. UM, THE DRIVEWAY IS SHARED WITH OUR NEIGHBOR CURRENTLY, SO WHEN WE PULL UP INTO THAT DRIVEWAY, WE ALREADY HAVE TO DO SOME MANEUVERING TO, TO KEEP THAT SPACE FREE. UM, AND I THINK THAT WITH THE, THE RELOCATION OF THAT SORT OF INTERIOR FENCE THAT WE HAVE, IT'LL ACTUALLY BE A MUCH MORE GRACIOUS, UM, SORT OF MEANS OF US GETTING THE CARS IN AND OUT THAT WAY. UM, AND WE'VE, WE'VE TRIED PULLING IT FORWARD AND BACKING UP THE DRIVEWAY. IT'S, IT'S NOT BEEN A, AN ISSUE. WE HAVE LIVED WITH TANDEM PARKING BEFORE, I HAVE TO SAY. UM, AND IT WAS OKAY. UM, AND SO I THINK WE FEEL COMFORTABLE DOING THAT. AND IT ALSO ALLOWS US THEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE MORE OF A BACKYARD KIND OF SPACE FOR OUR FAMILY TO COME IN AND OUT OF THE HOUSE. SO, BUT WE DID LOOK AT IT 'CAUSE IT IS, IT WAS SORT OF A THING WE WERE QUESTIONING AS WELL. YEAH. BUT OUR GOAL IS NOT TO PARK ON THE STREET . THAT'S A CONCERN. I'VE PARDONED SO MANY QUESTIONS, BUT I'M A LITTLE TO THIS. UM, ANDREW, FOR YOU A TRY A ROOF LINE, IS THAT CONSISTENT WITH THE CRAFTSMEN WHERE YOU'RE, IT'S GONE FROM ONE ROOF TO THREE ROOFS? RIGHT? THAT LOOKS VERY MODERN TO ME, THAT I'M NOT A CRAFTSMAN EXPERT BY ANY MEANS. SO I YEAH, WELL NEED TO RELY ON YOU FOR THAT. THE GABLE, THE GABLE, BOTH THE HIP AND THE GABLE WOULD BE, UM, INCLUDED IN THE CRAFTSMAN STYLE. SO IN THAT SENSE, YES, IT IS A MORE COMPLEX ROOFLINE THAN I THINK THAN WHAT'S THERE ORIGINALLY. BUT, UM, IT DOES MATCH WITH THE DESIGN OF THE HOUSE AS PROPOSED. AND SO, AND IT, AND THEY DO CONTINUE TO RETAIN THE, THE FRONT GABLE, WHICH IS ONE OF THE PRIMARY DEFINING CHARACTERISTICS OF THE HOME. SO, AND WE'VE HEARD ABOUT GOING UP THE HILL AND NOT BEING ABLE TO SEE IT FROM THE OTHER DIRECTION THAT WE ARE SEEING THE RIGHT THREE THREE RE REFLECTS AGAIN. MM-HMM . I THREE. ARE YOU, ARE YOU LIKE THE , IS THAT WHAT THE THIRD AM I WELL, THERE'S ONE AND THEN THERE'S ONE BACK HERE, ONE OVER AGAIN. YEAH, I THINK THAT THERE IS THE, THE DIRT. OKAY. GOT IT. ALTHOUGH MAYBE THE, I GUESS THE HIP IS, IS THE HIP THE THIRD? THAT PART IS BACK, YEAH. THE PORTION OF IT. OKAY. UM, HOW EXTENSIBLE OF A DEMOLITION BE FOR THE EXISTING BACK PORCH LOOKS SUCH, I MEAN WE'RE, WE'RE REMOVING THE BACK DECK AS UM, THE CONSTRUCTION ISN'T WONDERFUL AS IT IS AND THAT WAS AN ADD-ON, RIGHT? SOME PREVIOUS ADD-ONS, BUT THE EXISTING FRONT, UH, IS TO BE RETAINED WITH THE EXCEPTION OF REPLACING WITH THOSE FRONT PORCH AND SHINGLES CHAIN. YEAH. OKAY. I THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS, THAT YOU WERE THE DETAILS FOR THE NEW SHINGLES, BUT I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. YES. I MEAN, MOST OF THE REAR DECK IS BUILT OUT OVER AN EXISTING SUNKEN CONCRETE PATIO, WHICH WILL, WILL STAY, THAT WILL BE REMOVED, BUILDING OUT TO BUILD OUT. AND 11 DAYS IS CONSIDERED A GOOD NOTICE FOR NEIGHBORS. MM-HMM . YES. THE CODE REQUIRES 10, 10 LEARNING ON THE JOB. YEAH. , UH, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY. YEAH. UM, I CAN SEE THIS PROPERTY FROM MY OWN HOME, SO I'M WONDERING IF I NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF. THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION. . YEAH, YOU PROBABLY SHOULD. YES. COMMUNITY MEMBER HALL. I'D IMAGINE YOU'RE WITHIN 700 YARDS. I DON'T, UH, KNOW. 'CAUSE YOU WEREN'T NOTICED, YOU DON'T THINK, RIGHT? I, NO, I WOULDN'T NOTICE, BUT I CAN'T SEE IT. OH, I THINK IT PROBABLY WOULD BE BEST. YEAH. IT JUST RECUSE IF YOU'RE OUTSIDE OF 500 FEET, BUT WITHIN A THOUSAND, THERE'S KIND OF A COUPLE FACTORS THAT ARE PROBABLY PRETTY HARD TO DO JUST RIGHT HERE. UM, YEAH, I THINK PROBABLY BEST JUST RECUSE. YEAH. MM-HMM . THAT MAY JUST NOT BOAT OR, UH, RUNAWAY. PROBABLY , WELL, IT'S TOPIC. I MEAN, IF [01:00:01] WE WERE AT THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, WE'D PROBABLY HAVE TO LEAVE THE DAAS, BUT YOU'RE ON THE TABLE. I DON'T KNOW, REMEMBER. WELL, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY OTHER ITEMS. IF YOU WANNA LEAVE EARLY, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE BEST RECOMMENDATION. JUST, YEAH, THERE'S SOME CASES OUT THERE WHERE LIKE PEOPLE WERE LIKE FROWNING OR SOMEHOW, VISIBLY EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE THERE INFLUENCING THE BOAT. EXACTLY. GOTCHA. I DIDN'T WANT YOU TO LEAVE, BUT YEAH. PROBABLY THE BEST . WELL THAT WAS, IT WAS NICE. YEAH. . SO THAT'S GOOD. NEXT TIME. THE NEXT TIME. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THE QUESTION THAT WE ASKED . UM, DID YOU GUYS PRESENT MORE THAN ONE PITCH TO THE PLANNING COMMITTEE OR DID YOU, WAS THIS THE FIRST AND FINAL? WE REVISED THE UPPER STORY TO FURTHER DIFFERENTIATE IT FROM THE LOWER STORY OF THE SUGGESTION OF THE PLANNING WITH JUST THE MATERIAL OUTERS YES. THE MATERIALS. BUT YOU, YOU REMOVED THE OUTRIGGERS, RIGHT? YOU, YEAH, YOU CHANGED YEAH. IN THE WINDOW. RIGHT IN THE WINDOW, RIGHT? MM-HMM . TO FURTHER DISTINGUISH THE TWO, THAT THE GOAL BEING TO NOT, TO NOT MAKE IT LOOK LIKE IT'S ORIGINAL CONSTRUCTION. GOT IT. YEAH. BUT NOT MAKE IT LOOK ORIGINAL. CORRECT. CORRECT. IT'S A BIT OF A, UM, YEAH, I THINK MOST PEOPLE THINK THAT YOU WOULD WANT IT TO LOOK ORIGINAL, BUT, UH, THE SECRETARY STANDARDS SAY THAT IT SHOULD BE DIFFERENTIATED FROM THE ORIGINAL STRUCTURE SO THAT ANYONE OBSERVING IT COULD LOOK AT IT AND SEE THAT THE STRUCTURE HAS EVOLVED OVER TIME. AND SO BY SIMPLIFYING THE UPPER LEVEL AND DESIGN AND DETAIL AND SO FORTH, THEN IT HELPS TO ENSURE THAT, UH, SOMEBODY OBSERVING IT, SAY FIVE YEARS FROM NOW WHO DOESN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS PROCESS, WOULD, WOULD BE ABLE TO REASONABLY LOOK AT IT AND, AND SEE THAT THERE WAS AN ADDITION THAT WAS DONE TO THE ORIGINAL STRUCTURE AT SOME POINT IN TIME. YOU TRACK THE VISUAL GROWTH, RIGHT? IT'S A DELICATE BALANCE, I THINK, OF MAINTAINING CHARACTER APPROPRIATENESS, BUT ALSO DIFFERENTIATING, I THINK. ANY MORE QUESTIONS BEFORE I OPEN PUBLIC? A COMMENT? OKAY. THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO COMMENT ON THIS ITEM. PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON. YOU HAVEN'T DONE SO ALREADY. PLEASE FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD AND BRING IT TO THE CLERK. UM, HA. UH, HAVE WE RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING? I RECEIVED NO PUBLIC COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING. OKAY. UH, ARE THERE ANY IN-PERSON PUBLIC SPEAKERS, , UM, UH, WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK LOOKING AROUND THE ROOM? I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IN THE ROOM WISHES TO MAKE COMMENTS, SO I WILL CLOSE THAT. UM, WHICH MEANS THAT I'M BRINGING THE ITEM BACK TO US, THE COMMITTEE FOR CONSIDERATION. SO THIS WOULD BE WE WE'RE, WE DISCUSS. OKAY. AND THEN AT THE END OF OUR DISCUSSION, I WOULD, I WILL REQUEST A MOTION TO VOTE AND DO HAVE A PAPER IN FRONT OF YOU OF LANGUAGE FOR DIFFERENT WAYS THAT A VOTE COULD GO. ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS? , I THINK IT MAINTAINS THE CHARACTER AND PASSLOW LOVE AND LARGE. I REALLY LIKE IT. I THINK IT'S LOVELY . IT'S REALLY THOUGHTFUL. I REALLY LIKE THAT THE, IT'S POSSIBLE TO PUT IN NEW WINDOWS AND HAVE THEM NOT HAVE A DIFFERENT, I DUNNO WHAT THE RIGHT WORD IS, BUT LIKE FOOTPRINT. YEAH. I, I NOTICE THAT INSTANTLY WHEN I LOOK AT A LOT. THAT'S THIS ONE. THE WINDOWS HAVE GOTTEN SMALLER BECAUSE THE MORE MODERN MATERIALS ARE JUST NOT THE SCALE OF OLD WINDOWS. OKAY. WELL THEN, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST A MOTION TO VOTE, UM, TO PLEASE CONDUCT THE VOTE. SO WE'LL HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION. OH, FIRST PROCEED TO MAKE A DIRECTION. OKAY. WHICH ONE OF YOU ARE YOU WILLING, IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, YOU CAN JUST READ, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PETALUMA'S HISTORIC AND CULTURAL PRESERVATION COMMITTEE, APPROVING HISTORIC SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW AND ASSOCIATED CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FOR THE RENEE RESIDENCE RENOVATION EXPANSION AND ASSOCIATED SITE IMPROVEMENTS. LOCATED AT 5 26 OAK STREET, A PN 0 0 6 2 0 2 0 1 3 CITY RECORD NUMBER PLSR 2020 5 0 0 0 9. AND WAIVE FURTHER READING [01:05:01] OF THE TEXT. I GET A SECOND MOTION COMMITTEE MEMBER, MICHAEL, I AND THE CHAIR SECOND. YEAH, WE'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. SECOND, UH, . I GET, UH, SORRY, UH, COMMITTEE MEMBER MCMICHAEL CASTING. I THINK YOU NEED SAID VOTE THE, YEAH. ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. NO. OKAY. THANK YOU. COMMITTEE MEMBER SQUIRREL. AYE. COMMITTEE MEMBER HALL, UH, CHAIR BARCLAY SAXON? YES. UH, IT IS CARRIED. OKAY. RIGHT. AND THEN GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MEETING ITEM ONE. UM, COMMITTEE MEMBERS. [COMMITTEE COMMENT] IS THERE WHAT YOU DO NOW, WE DIDN'T DO THIS. ANY COMMITTEE MEMBERS? WOULD YOU LIKE TO PRESENT ANYTHING? YEAH, JUST IF, IF YOU HAVE ANY, ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO BRING UP, YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH THE, OKAY. NO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UM, ANY QUESTIONS? SURE. MAYOR MCMICHAEL, ANY ADDITIONAL COMMITTEE COMMENTS YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE? NO COMMITTEE MEMBERS. ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE? THANKS. IT'S TOO BAD WE DIDN'T GET CAROLYN FOR A LONGER TIME. ? YES. UM, MR. ANDREW [STAFF COMMENT] TRIPLE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO PROVIDE THE PLANNING MANAGER'S REPORT? UM, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE, UH, I THINK A, A LOT TO REPORT IN TERMS OF UPCOMING ACTIVITY. UH, WE ARE LOOKING TO RECEIVE ANOTHER MAJOR HR APPLICATION IN THE, IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS AND SO LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. WE'VE BEEN LOOKING CLOSELY WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER AND DESIGN TEAM ON THAT PROJECT AS WELL. UM, SO I DON'T BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ANY ITEMS FOR REVIEW IN DECEMBER. OKAY. SO WE WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT URI WILL BE CANCELING THAT MEETING IN DECEMBER. OKAY. UM, BUT WE MAY HAVE A PROJECT THAT WILL BE IZING FOR JANUARY. OKAY. AND THAT'S ALL GOOD. ANY MORE EITHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COMMITTEE? I'M GOING TO ADJOURN THE MEETING AT 6:07 PM THANKS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.