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[CALL TO ORDER]
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.UM, I THINK THE FIRST THING WE, UH, ARE GOING TO DO FOR THE NOVEMBER 12TH PETALUMA PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE MEETING IS TO TAKE A ROLL CALL COMMITTEE MEMBER CALLED IRON PRESENT COMMITTEE MEMBER KSM PRESENT COMMITTEE MEMBER BOGGER PRESENT COMMITTEE MEMBER LELAND ABSENT COMMITTEE MEMBER WEAVER PRESENT COMMITTEE MEMBER GREENSPAN PRESENT CHAIR DIGGS.
TODAY WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT OUR CITY OF PETALUMA COMMITTEE WORK INVOLVES THE UNSEATED LAND THAT IS THE ANCESTRAL HOMELANDS OF THE COAST, EWOK PEOPLE.
WE WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS OUR GRATITUDE AND APPRECIATION TO THOSE WHO STEWARD AND CONTINUE TO STEWARD THIS LAND.
WE PAY OUR RESPECTS TO THE PAST, PRESENT, AND EMERGING ELDERS AND CITIZENS OF THE COMMUNITY OF THE COAST MEAT WALK HERE.
SO, AS I SAID, UM, GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PUBLIC ART PETALUMA PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE FOR WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 12TH, 2025.
DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON ITEMS OF PUBLIC INTEREST THAT ARE WITHIN THE COMMITTEE SUBJECT MATTER TO JURISDICTION, AND THAT ARE NOT LISTED ON THE CURRENT AGENDA.
PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED UP TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON, DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF PERSONS WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE.
TIME WILL BE ALLOCATED IN EQUAL SHARES TOTALING NO MORE THAN 15 MINUTES GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT AND, UH, UH, IS NOW OPEN.
I ASK ANY SPEAKERS TO BRING THEIR CARDS TO THE CLERK'S DESK IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY.
AND CLERK, HAVE YOU RECEIVED ANY CARDS THIS EVENING? WE RECEIVED NO PUBLIC COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING OR, UH, RIGHT NOW.
SO NOTHING SPOKEN OR, UH, ONLINE OR, UM, PRIOR TO THE MEETING.
SO I WILL NOW CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AND CONTINUE WITH THE AGENDA.
[PRESENTATIONS]
TO OUR PRESENTATIONS, PART OF THE, THE MEETING.UM, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR CONCEPTUAL MURAL DESIGNS BY SONOMA COUNTY ARTIST ASH GREGORIO, UM, FOR THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE'S REVIEW IN CONSIDERATION AT A LOCATION OR LOCATIONS TO BE DETERMINED.
AND I WOULD INVITE YOU ASH TO STEP UP TO THE PODIUM AND, UM, WE WILL QUEUE UP YOUR PRESENTATION.
WE'RE EXCITED TO WELCOME YOU TO THE PETALUMA PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE MEETING, AND I JUST WANTED TO LET THE PUBLIC AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS KNOW THAT ASH HAS MOVED FORWARD WITH HER OWN GRANT FOR THE EVENING THAT SHE'S SECURED AND SHE'S PRESENTING A MURAL FOR US TO LOOK AT PROPOSED LOCATIONS AND DESIGN.
SO WE'LL JUST BE PROVIDING FEEDBACK AND ADVISING ON THE PROJECT, BUT WE'RE REALLY EXCITED THAT SHE BROUGHT THIS TO OUR COMMITTEE AND TO OUR COMMUNITY.
I'LL BE SHARING THE SCREEN IN JUST A MOMENT.
YOU HAVE TO SEE EVERYTHING ELSE WHILE I FIGURE THIS OUT REALLY QUICK.
I GUESS THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.
UM, SO I GRADUATED FROM SONOMA STATE A YEAR AGO WITH A BFA IN FINE ART, AND I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO DO A MURAL.
SO A LOT OF MY WORK, IT HAS A LOT OF BRIGHT COLORS AND IT KIND OF BRINGS IN A CHILDLIKE FEEL, UM, WHICH I'M GONNA BRING TO THIS MURAL.
SO I USE A LOT OF BRIGHT PINKS AND GREENS AND BLUES AND KIND OF REPRESENT A VERY, UM, CHILDLIKE FEEL.
UM, HERE ARE SOME OTHER TWO PAINTINGS THAT I DID.
UM, THE ONE ON THE LEFT I HAD SOLD AND THE ONE ON THE RIGHT, I MADE THESE LITTLE STUFFED ANIMALS AND SET UP A STILL LIFE AND, UM, PAINTED IT BECAUSE, I DON'T KNOW, I REALLY LIKE DOING VERY FUN AND COLORFUL WORK.
AND THESE PAINTINGS ARE PRETTY BIG.
UM, NOT AS BIG AS THE MURAL WILL BE, BUT, UM, FIVE BY FIVE FEET AND FOUR BY FIVE FEET ARE PRETTY MUCH MY
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STANDARD.AND I TYPICALLY WORK IN OIL PAINTING.
UM, SO DOING ACRYLIC WILL BE SOMETHING NEW, BUT I'VE DONE IN THE PAST.
BUT I'M REALLY EXCITED TO, UM, DO IT.
YEAH, SO THE GRANT THAT I GOT WAS THROUGH L-G-B-T-Q CONNECTION.
IT'S A PROGRAM THROUGH ON THE MOVE.
UM, THEY DO A LOT OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH THAT EMPOWERS QUEER YOUTH AND ARTISTS.
UM, THIS GRANT SPECIFICALLY WAS TO GIVE ARTISTS THE ABILITY TO CREATE WITHOUT THE WORRY ABOUT MONEY.
UM, SO IT WAS GIVEN TO LOCAL ARTISTS AND IT PRETTY MUCH JUST, THEY, THEY SAW WHAT I WANTED TO DO, WHICH WAS A PUBLIC MURAL, AND THEY GAVE ME A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THEY THOUGHT FIT AND NOW I HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO DO IT.
UM, THERE WASN'T REALLY A TIMELINE SPECIFIC OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
UM, YEAH, SO THIS IS MY MURAL IDEA.
UM, I MEAN, IT WILL LOOK SOMEWHAT LIKE THIS, BUT MORE PAINTERLY WHEN I OFFICIALLY DO IT.
I WANTED TO WAIT TO DO A FINAL, UM, CONCEPT DRAWING ONCE I HAD AN OFFICIAL WALL, JUST IN CASE I NEEDED TO MOVE SOME ELEMENTS AROUND OR ADD SOME ELEMENTS TO IT.
BUT PRETTY MUCH I WANTED TO DO A PRETTY LARGE AND LONG AND VERY COLORFUL JELLYFISH WITH RAINBOWS AND CANDY AND SPARKLES AND ALL THAT FUN STUFF THAT, THAT BRINGS THE EYE IN AND MAKES THE PLACE A LITTLE BIT MORE COLORFUL.
SO, SOME LOCATION IDEAS WOULD BE THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB AT LUCCHESE PARK, UM, WITH THE, ON THE CLUBHOUSE WALL, KELLER STREET PARKING GARAGE ON THE INSIDE WALLS, THE PETALUMA FAIRGROUND, A LYNCHED CREEK TRAIL, MCNAIR'S PUBLIC BATHROOM, AND THE PUMP HOUSE, UH, PUMP HOUSE OF THE SWIM CENTER BY THE SKATE PARK.
SO HERE ARE A FEW WALL IDEAS WITH SOME PHOTOS.
SO THIS IS THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, UM, AROUND THE BUILDING HAS A FEW GOOD, UH, EMPTY WALL SPACES, AND I'M THINKING THAT THE MURAL COULD WRAP AROUND THE CORNER TO KIND OF DRAW PEOPLE INTO THE BUILDING A LITTLE BIT.
UM, I THINK THIS IS A PRETTY GOOD SPOT.
UM, AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER SPOT AS WELL, WHICH IS INSIDE, UH, THE KELLER STREET PARKING GARAGE.
UM, THERE ARE ALREADY A FEW MURALS IN THERE, AND EVERY TIME I DRIVE IN THERE, IT MAKES ME REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THAT NOT ONLY IS THERE ART THERE, BUT IT HASN'T BEEN VANDALIZED, WHICH IS REALLY NICE.
UM, I DO THINK THAT THIS, UH, PARKING GARAGE COULD USE SOME MORE LIFE TO IT.
IT IS A LITTLE SCARY IN THERE.
UM, SO I THINK ADDING SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE COLORFUL AND CAN CHEER PEOPLE UP.
AND THEN ANOTHER PLACE THAT WE WERE THINKING WAS, UM, THE WALL FACING THE PARKING LOT CLOSEST TO THE SKATE PARK AT THE SWIM CENTER.
UM, THIS IS A PRETTY, UM, GOOD SIZED WALL, AND THE BLUE WOULD JUST COMPLIMENT PERFECTLY WITH THE, UH, JELLYFISH.
BUT YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I GOTTA SAY.
UM, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY CLARIFYING QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GET INTO OUR, UM, DISCUSSION? I'M WONDERING WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE.
I THINK TONIGHT WE'RE JUST, UM, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LOCATION AND THEN I, I THINK YOU HAVE TO PROBABLY GO THROUGH PARKS.
I MEAN, MELISSA WOULD KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT, UM, ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW, THE PROCEDURE, IT'LL REALLY DEPEND ON WHERE WE CITE IT.
LIKE IT COULD BE AS EASY AS TONIGHT, SINCE SHE HAS THE FUNDING AND REALLY DOESN'T NEED US, LIKE IT'S NOT COMING OUTTA THE PUBLIC ART FUND, WE DON'T REALLY NEED TO GO AND REVIEW IT AGAIN.
LIKE, WE COULD CREATE A SUBCOMMITTEE THAT COULD, YOU KNOW, REVIEW HER INTERNALLY, LIKE GIVE HER ADVICE ON THE DESIGN IF WE WANTED TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT THE WAY I SEE THIS PLAYING OUT IS THAT WE HELP HER FIND A LOCATION, I'LL VET THE LOCATIONS, AND THEN WE MOVE FORWARD WITH MAKING SURE THAT IF IT'S VETTED THAT IT WORKS FOR THE, THE PROJECT.
BUT THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN A PUBLIC ART FUNDED PROJECT.
IT'S KIND OF, WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THE PROCESS REALLY SIMPLE SO IT DOESN'T COME AT A CITY EXPENSE TO KEEP IT GOING.
BUT THAT'S, THAT WAS OUR PROPOSAL FOR NOW THAT IT WOULD BE REVIEWED INSIDE WHEN WE SUBMIT A PERMIT FOR INSTALLATION.
AND THAT WILL DEPEND ON THE SITE.
SO IF IT'S AT THE, IT'LL DEFINITELY GO TO PARKS TO DREW HALTER AND HIS TEAM.
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IT'S GONNA BE AT A PARKS LOCATION.IF IT'S NOT THERE AND IT'S SOMEWHERE CITY LIKE, PRIMARILY CITY RUN, LIKE THE KELLER STREET PARKING GARAGE, THEN THAT'LL PROBABLY BE A PROCESS JUST IN-HOUSE HERE.
SO I GUESS IT'S THE SAME QUESTION I'LL HAVE FOR THE NEXT PRESENTATION, WHICH IS, IF IT'S NOT FUNDED BY THE CITY, HOW, WHAT, HOW MUCH SAY DOES SHE NEED FOR HER DESIGN? DOES IT HAVE TO BE APPROVED? HUH? I THINK BECAUSE SHE ALREADY HAS THE GRANT OR NOT FUNDING IT AT ALL, BUT I DO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE DESIGN IS SOMETHING THAT WE ALL AGREE ON.
I MEAN, SHE'S PRESENTING, THAT IS HER DESIGN.
SHE WILL JUST POLISH IT, GOT IT TO BE MORE PAINTERLY, LIKE YOU SAW THE QUALITY OF HER PAINTINGS.
AND SO YOU CAN KIND OF APPLY THE SAME, THE SAME TECHNIQUE TO WHAT SHE'S PRESENTING TONIGHT.
SO YOU'D BE TALK, TALKING ABOUT HER DESIGN AND THE SUBJECT MATTER AND THE POTENTIAL LOCATIONS THAT YOU FAVOR, OR IF YOU HAVE OTHER LOCATIONS THAT YOU THINK MIGHT BE A GOOD FIT, WE REALLY WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THEM.
UM, BEFORE WE GET INTO OUR CONVERSATION, I SHOULD SAY THAT THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO COMMENT.
UM, PUBLIC COMMENT AGAIN, ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES.
AND IF YOU HAVEN'T DONE SO ALREADY, UM, THERE'S NOBODY HERE UNLESS ANY OF YOU WANNA COMMENT ON THIS.
OTHERWISE, YOU'RE, UH, HAVE WE HAD ANY COMMENTS ON THIS? I REMEMBER YOU RECEIVED, UH, NO PUBLIC COMMENTS PRIOR TO THIS MEETING.
UM, THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION IS CLOSED AND NOW WE CAN, UM, GET BACK TO THE COMMITTEE AND SEE IF ANYBODY ELSE HAD ANY COMMENTS TO MAKE OR CHERYL, PLEASE.
I'LL JUST COME RIGHT OUT AND SAY THAT I LOVE YOUR DESIGN.
SO, UM, BUT I, I THINK IT'S GREAT.
UM, A COUPLE OF COMMENTS ABOUT LOCATION, UH, THE LUCCHESE PARK CLUBHOUSE.
IT'S A VERY, UH, PLAIN, NAKED WALL.
IT COULD CERTAINLY USE SOME ART TO JAZZ IT UP.
UH, YOUR COMMENT ABOUT THE KELLER STREET GARAGE INSIDE, I AGREE.
I LIKE WHAT'S THERE, BUT IT'S NOT THAT COLORFUL.
SO YOURS WOULD BE REALLY COLORFUL.
SO THAT WOULD BE THE OUTSIDE AREA.
UM, THERE'S ALSO, RIGHT, THE WALNUT PARK BATHROOM.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CONSIDERED THAT ONE OR NOT.
IT DOESN'T HAVE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR IT.
AND ACTUALLY THE MCNAIR PARK BATHROOM SEEMS TO HAVE SOME DETERIORATION TO THE WALL TOO, SO, YEAH, I WAS GONNA ASK ABOUT THAT.
'CAUSE MCNAIR HAS IT, IT HASN'T BEEN, UM, ON A HIGH PRIORITY LIST FOR MAINTENANCE, LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY.
SO I WAS A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
UM, THE LYNCH CREEK AREA, WOULDN'T THAT BE OUTSIDE? YES.
SO IT WOULDN'T BE QUITE AS, AS SAFE PERHAPS.
UM, THE SKATE PARK AREA, THE PUMP HOUSE, WE ALREADY HAVE A LOT OF ART THERE.
SO MY IDEA WAS LET'S, YOU KNOW, SHARE THE WEALTH AND PUT IT SOMEWHERE ELSE.
AND ALTHOUGH I LOVE THE IDEA OF THE FAIRGROUNDS BECAUSE IT'S ABOUT TO BE POSSIBLY CHANGED AND RENOVATED AND BUILDINGS MOVED OR NEW, I'M THINKING, I WOULD HATE TO HAVE YOU DO IT.
SO, UM, BUT I, I, I LOVE YOUR IDEA AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE LUCCHESE PARK CLUBHOUSE, THE KELLER STREET GARAGE, OR MAYBE SOMETHING ELSE WE CAN COME UP WITH WOULD BE A SUPER NICE FIT.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ECHO ALL OF WHAT YOU SAID.
I HAD MANY OF THE SAME THOUGHTS.
THE ONE THING, UM, ABOUT THE PUMP HOUSE OR THE, UM, THE, SORRY, THE SWIM CENTER IS YOU'RE LOOKING AT A BRICK WALL.
SO THAT MAY BE CHALLENGING FOR YOUR STYLE AND IN A MEDIUM YOU'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, AS ACCOMPLISHED IN YOUR OILS, WHICH ARE REALLY BEAUTIFUL, BY THE WAY.
I LOVE YOUR MASTERY OF PAINT AND THE THOUGHTFULNESS OF, OF YOUR COMPOSITIONS.
UM, AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE JELLYFISH.
MY, UH, PRIORITY LOCATION WOULD BE THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB BECAUSE I THINK THE CONTENT REALLY SPEAKS TO THE, UM, THE, THE USER OF THE SPACE.
I LIKE THE ABILITY OF WRAPPING AROUND AS MUCH AS YOU CAN, GIVEN THE LIMITATIONS OF, YOU KNOW, YOUR BUDGET.
AND, UM, I THINK THAT THAT IS, UM, SORT OF RIGHT FOR THE PICKING.
UM, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING OVER THERE.
UH, WE HAVE ALL THE MIRACLE LEAGUE, BUT THAT'S ACROSS THE FIELD A BIT.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT MIGHT BE, UM, A REALLY NICE PLACE FOR YOU.
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YOU FOR BEING HERE.I WAS ALSO THINKING THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB WOULD BE PERFECT BECAUSE OF THE AUDIENCE AND THE RELATIVITY WITH THE SUBJECT MATTER.
THEN I ALSO THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE GREAT TO HAVE THIS IN A MORE ADULT SPACE, BECAUSE ADULTS ALSO NEED TO FIND THEIR INNER CHILD AGAIN, ESPECIALLY RIGHT NOW, WE NEED ALL THE COLORFUL CHILDLIKE HAPPINESS WE CAN GET.
SO I THINK THIS WOULD GO ANYWHERE.
I LIKE THE IDEA OF USING IT TO REALLY BRIGHTEN UP A DRAB SPACE, LIKE THE PARKING GARAGE OR THE, UM, THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB.
AND IF THERE'S ANYWHERE ELSE YOU SEE THAT REALLY LOOKS LIKE IT NEEDS COLOR, I WOULD SAY THAT IS THE PERFECT PLACE TO PICK.
ESPECIALLY IF IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY OTHER MURALS.
IT'S, THIS IS A REALLY BRIGHT, FUN PIECE.
SO I WOULD UTILIZE IT TO BRIGHTEN UP A PLACE THAT FEELS THE OPPOSITE AND MAKE IT SOMETHING YEAH.
I'LL, UH, MIRROR WHAT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE SAID.
I, I THINK THAT, UM, THIS KIND OF PIECE AND THE SCALE OF IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE, UH, ACCESSIBLE BY AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE.
SO THE PARKING GARAGE IS GREAT, BUT IT GETS A LITTLE HIDDEN OVER THERE.
UH, THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB THINGS, IT SEEMS LIKE A GREAT SPOT FOR IT.
UM, CONSIDERING THE LENGTH OF IT, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, THE SKETCH IS PRETTY FOUR BY THREE, BUT LIKE, IF, IF IT'S GONNA, YOU KNOW, THE WRAPPING AROUND THE CORNER AND KIND OF PULLING PEOPLE IN, I THINK IS A NICE, THE FLOWING ELEMENT OF IT.
THAT'S A PRETTY NICE SPOT FOR IT.
I FEEL LIKE A BROKEN RECORD HERE, BUT, UM, AS WHEN I LOOKED AT THE PROPOSAL, THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB IS WHAT APPEARED TO ME AS THE BEST OPTION, BOTH FOR THE AUDIENCE IT'D BE SERVING, AND ALSO TO LOOK AT AREAS THAT DON'T HAVE AS MUCH DENSITY OF PUBLIC ART.
UM, THAT THAT'S AN AREA THAT COULD USE SOME IMPROVEMENT.
I THINK YOUR DESIGN IS BEAUTIFUL, SO THANK YOU.
I ALSO FAVOR THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB OF ALL THE OPTIONS.
I WAS ALSO, WHEN I SAW YOUR INITIAL DESIGN, I HAD AN ALTERNATE, UM, LOCATION THAT I WAS LIKE, OH, THAT WOULD BE REALLY COOL THERE.
BUT I'M REALIZING NOW THAT I THINK IT IS, UH, THE BUILDINGS ARE PRIVATELY OWNED.
SO ON THE GOLDEN CONCOURSE FROM, UH, PUTNAM PLAZA, LIKE UP AMERICAN ALLEY TO KENTUCKY STREET, IS THAT, UM, THOSE WALLS ARE THOSE PRIVATELY OWNED BUILDINGS.
AND THAT'S WHY THOSE AREN'T BEAUTIFUL
SO WE, AND IT'LL ADD A LARGE EXPENSE TO THE PROJECT THAT WE CAN'T NECESSARILY FOLDER SCRATCH THAT.
UM, AND I DID WANNA GIVE AN UPDATE.
I, IT TOOK ME A MINUTE TO REACH SOMEBODY AT BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, AND THEY SAID THAT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR FUNDING.
THEY'RE GONNA START FUNDRAISING NEXT YEAR TO REPAINT AND REROOF THEIR LOCATION.
SO THE LIFESPAN OF THE MURAL, THERE WOULD PROBABLY BE A COUPLE OF YEARS.
SO I'VE BEEN STARTING TO VET THINGS TO SEE WHAT WOULD WORK BEST.
AND THAT WAS WHEN WE THOUGHT ABOUT THE, THE KELLER STREET PARKING GARAGE, BECAUSE IT IS SO CLOSE TO THE PHOENIX AND IT'S KIND OF AN, A KIND OF A DEFACTO ART GALLERY BASED ON WHAT THE PET PETALUMA DOWNTOWN ASSOCIATION HAS DONE IN IT SO FAR WITH THE ARTWORK THAT'S IN THERE.
BUT I, I LIKE, IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY OTHER IDEAS, IT WOULD BE MOST CONVENIENT TO DO IT ON A PUBLIC FACING, A PUBLIC, A PETALUMA PUBLICLY OWNED BUILDING OR SURFACE.
WE COULD ASK PARTNER BUSINESS OWNERS IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT ON THEIR BUILDING, BUT IT KIND OF ADDS A, A ANOTHER PART TO GETTING THIS MADE.
AND I, I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT ADDING STAFF TIME OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT TO THE PROJECT.
YOU KNOW, I DO ACTUALLY LIKE THE KELLER STREET TOP WALL BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE IT EXPANDS AND THAT GIVES YOU THE OPTION OF MAKING THIS JELLYFISH LOOK LIKE IT'S GROWING.
BECAUSE YOU CAN REALLY WORK WITH THAT ANGLE.
UH, AND THE ALLEY THING THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, WE DO HAVE ANOTHER POSSIBLE IDEA FOR, THAT'S THE ONE WITH THE ROBERT OWINGS PIECES.
SO WE DO HAVE A WAY TO ALSO BRIGHTEN THAT IS WHAT WAS SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.
UM, WE DO HAVE A FUTURE PROJECT THAT I'M HOPING TO FUND AS PROJECTS BRING REVENUE IN.
SO, UM, YEAH, THAT'S, WE'RE HOPING TO MAKE THE GOLDEN CONCOURSE A BIT OF AN ACTIVE ART GALLERY WHERE ALL THOSE HANGERS ARE SO THAT WE WOULD HAVE A, A, A MOVING ART GALLERY THAT WOULD LAST A COUPLE YEARS, A YEAR OR TWO FOR AN ART PIECE HANGING FROM THERE.
AND THEN WE'D SELL THEM TO FUND THE NEXT ROUND OF ART PROJECTS.
SO, UM, MELISSA, CAN YOU, UH, CLARIFY THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB THEY'RE LOOKING TO REPAINT IN TWO YEARS? IS THAT, DID I UNDERSTAND THAT THEIR, THEIR, THEIR ESTIMATED TIMELINE FOR FUNDRAISING AND PAINTING THE BUILDING WAS TWO YEARS? SO I'M NOT SURE IF A MURAL THERE WOULD LAST
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BEYOND THAT.I MEAN, CLEARLY WHEN THEY PAINT, IT'LL BE GONE.
SO WE'D HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT LOCATION MIGHT NOT ALLOW FOR A LONG-TERM SPACE FOR THE MURAL.
AND I IMAGINE THE MURAL'S LIFESPAN IS PROBABLY CLOSER TO FIVE YEARS, SO WE CAN YEAH, MAYBE, HOPEFULLY MORE.
SOME OF OURS LAST A GREAT AMOUNT OF TIME AND, UM, WE'LL SEE.
THE O POSITIVES ARE ALL AT ABOUT 10 YEARS IN THE ALLEYS.
UM, I WOULD THINK THAT WE SHOULD REALLY CLARIFY WITH THEM BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, OSTENSIBLY THEY WOULD PAINT AROUND THE MURAL AND IF IT WERE PREPPED APPROPRIATELY WITH SOME CORD OF, YOU KNOW, PRIMERS OR WHATEVER, THEY WOULDN'T NEED TO REPAINT THAT SECTION.
SO WE SHOULD FIGURE OUT, BECAUSE I WOULD HATE FOR IT TO GO UP FOR, YOU KNOW, JUST TWO YEARS, YES.
OR THREE OR FOUR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER.
AND I KNOW IT, IT, IT'S A VARIABLE, BUT EVEN STILL THAT SEEMS LIKE A, A SHORT LIFESPAN TO ME.
SO I'D WANNA REALLY CONFIRM WITH THAT.
UM, WHEN I TALKED TO THEM, THEY DIDN'T HAVE A COMMITTED STATEMENT ON, THAT WAS THEIR RESPONSE.
WHEN I ASKED IF THEY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN HOSTING A MURAL IN THE BUILDING, THEIR RESPONSE WAS THAT THEY WERE PLANNING ON FUNDRAISING FOR THESE IMPROVEMENTS.
AND IF THEY GOT THE FUNDS SOONER, THEY WOULD DO THE IMPROVEMENT SOONER.
SO THAT WAS JUST AN ESTIMATED TIMELINE.
UM, AND THEN ONE IDEA I WANTED TO THROW OUT THERE, AND I DON'T KNOW BASED ON THE SIZE OF YOUR ARTWORK OR WHAT'S POSSIBLE, BUT THE, UM, WOMEN IN SCIENCE MURAL IN FRONT OF THE LIBRARY IS ON, YOU KNOW, POSTS WITH A, WITH A HUGE, UM, PLYWOOD OR, OR SOME SORT OF, UM, FACADE THAT IS PAINTED.
AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T FIND, IF WE DON'T FIND THE RIGHT SPOT, MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT.
AND THE REASON THAT ONE WORKS REALLY WELL IS THAT IT HAS A LITTLE BIT OF PROTECTION WITH THE TREES AND THE FACADE OF THE LIBRARY, THAT IT HAS THE EAVES TO KIND OF GIVE IT SOME WEATHERING PROTECTION.
BUT IN MY OPINION, I WOULD RATHER SEE IT ON A WALL THAN THE WOOD.
IT'S ANOTHER EXPENSE THAT I THINK WOULD ADD TO THE PROJECT.
AND SHE'S WORKING WITH A LIMITED BUDGET, BUT I THINK IT'S A GREAT SOLUTION WHEN WE DON'T HAVE WALLS AND TO BE FOR THE PUBLIC.
THE WOMEN IN SCIENCE MURAL IS AVAILABLE FOR VIEWING ON OUR PUBLIC ART WEBPAGE, BUT IT WAS A GIFT FROM STUDENTS FROM SANTA ROSA HIGH, UM, EMILY HIGH SCHOOL, UM, ALMOST FOUR YEARS AGO.
AND IT WAS PLACED IN FRONT OF THE PETALUMA LIBRARY TO CELEBRATE WOMEN IN SCIENCE.
WHAT WOULD THE PROCESS BE TO, TO, TO TALK TO THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB IN TERMS OF, UH, PAINTING AND KIND OF CONFIRMING THAT AND, AND SETTING A, AN AREA ASIDE THAT COULD BE TREATED AND, AND NOT REPAINTED OVER? WELL, I'VE BEGUN DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM.
I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE GETTING A CALL BACK, UM, BECAUSE WE HAVE, UM, A SONOMA MARIN BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB THAT MANAGES THE SITE.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE INVOLVED.
AND SO SHE WAS, THE WOMAN I SPOKE WITH WAS GOING TO BE GETTING BACK TO ME WITH CLARIFICATION AND REALLY CONFIRMING, UM, MY INITIAL READ WAS THAT THEY HAVE THEIR OWN PLANS AND IT WASN'T, YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T SOMETHING THEY WERE PLANNING FOR.
WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, THE MURAL CLOSER, BEING CLOSER TO PICKLEBALL, LIKE THE AREA WHERE THERE WAS TENNIS AND PICKLEBALL AND HAVING IT WRAP AROUND THAT SIDE.
BUT THE, UM, THE PAINTING ON THE BUILDING, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE PHOTO, IT'S BEEN COVERED UP QUITE A BIT FROM GRAFFITI OVER TIME.
AND SO IT DOES NEED PAINTING, BUT IT'S AN OPTION RIGHT NOW.
I WOULDN'T SAY IT'S OFF THE PLATE, I JUST HAVE TO CONFIRM IT.
IT WHAT WE'VE HAD THIS PROCESS BEFORE WITH OUR SMALL ARTWORK GRANTS WHERE WE HAD TO GO AND SELECT SITES AND KIND OF VET THEM AND SEE WHAT, WHAT THE RESPONSE WAS.
THE KELLER STREET GARAGE, THAT ONE'S EASY.
IF WE CHOOSE TO PUT IT ON A PRIVATE BUILDING THAT'S, IT'S GONNA, WE'RE GONNA RELY ON ASH TO GO AND TALK TO BUSINESS OWNERS AND FIGURE THAT OUT.
AND SO, 'CAUSE WE REALLY, AS CITY STAFF, WE CAN'T REALLY SUPPORT THAT WITHOUT A FUNDING MECHANISM.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S NOT TAKING PLACE WITHOUT IT.
UM, BUT I DO FEEL LIKE WE HAVE VIABLE OPTIONS.
I'VE ALSO ASKED THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TO PLEASE PROVIDE ANY OTHER WALLS THAT THEY FEEL ARE NEEDED.
I DID ASK ABOUT THE FAIRGROUNDS AND WAS TOLD THAT THEY ARE STILL DEVELOPING THEIR BRAND AND WHAT'S GOING ON THERE.
AND SO THEY REALLY WOULD LIKE TO NOT TAKE ON ANY MORE ART AT THIS TIME AND JUST REALLY GET A CLEAR IDEA OF WHAT THEIR, WHAT THEY WANT THEIR VISUAL FOCUS TO BE.
THEY DID ASK IF SHE COULD CHANGE THE MURAL TO FARM ANIMALS AND THEN IT WOULD FIT IN WELL THERE.
AND I DIDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE ASKING HER TO DO THAT
SHE HAS A DESIGN, THE DESIGN HELPED HER WIN THE GRANT.
I'D LIKE TO STICK WITHIN HER VISION.
UM, ASH, DO YOU HAVE A TIMELINE WHEN YOU NEED TO DO THIS WORK? SO THE GRANT DIDN'T GIVE ME A SPECIFIC TIMELINE.
UM, IT PRETTY MUCH JUST GAVE ME THE MONEY, UM, TO HELP WITH IT.
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I PERSONALLY, I'D LIKE TO HAVE IT DONE BY THE END OF NEXT YEAR.THERE ISN'T SPECIFICALLY A TIMELINE THOUGH, THAT'S JUST MY OWN PERSONAL WISHES, SO, YEAH.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE YOUR GRANT IS GOING TO EXPIRE NO.
UM, WELL, ALTHOUGH I THINK WE ALL LOVED THE IDEA OF THE LOU HA PARK, YOU KNOW, BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, IF WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AT KELLER STREET EASIER, UM, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT.
I MEAN, THAT WAS MY PERSONAL FIRST CHOICE.
AH,
AND SO IF I COULD SEE MY OWN A LOT OF THE TIME, THAT WOULD BE AWESOME TOO.
UM, BUT YEAH, NO, WHEREVER WORKS IS TRULY FINE WITH ME.
BUT IF THE KELLER STREET PARKING GARAGE WORKS, THAT'S AMAZING.
YEAH, THAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION WAS WHAT'S YOUR PREFERENCE? SO THAT'S NICE TO, UH, TO TELL US THAT THANK YOU'RE MM-HMM
WE'RE, YOU KNOW, SPLITTING HAIRS OVER HERE TO TRY AND MAKE THE OTHER ONE WORK, BUT IF THAT WAS YOUR PREFERENCE, I'D BE FINE MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT.
IT WAS EITHER THE COLOR STREET PARKING GARAGE, OR THE BOYS AND GIRLS GIRLS CLUB.
UM, I REALLY LIKED BEING ABLE TO, THE IDEA OF BEING ABLE TO WRAP IT AROUND A BUILDING, BUT WITH WHAT MELISSA SAID, IT MIGHT NOT WORK OUT.
I'M JUST WONDERING IF OUTSIDE OF THE TOP IS LESS SAFE THAN INSIDE.
ARE THE CAMERAS INSIDE? NOTHING GETS GRAFFITI INSIDE, IT LOOKS LIKE, BUT THERE'S NOTHING OUTSIDE THAT TO, TO TEST IT WITH.
IT'S KIND OF, I'LL, I'LL CHECK ON THE CAMERAS, BUT IT'S KIND OF ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE IF SOMEBODY'S DOWNSTAIRS, THEY CAN ALSO GO UPSTAIRS.
LIKE RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS PRETTY CLEAN UP THERE.
I DON'T KNOW IF, I'LL CHECK WITH THE PETALUMA DOWNTOWN ASSOCIATION AND WITH THE CITY OF THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT TO SEE IF THEY TOUCHED IT UP LATELY.
BUT WHEN I WAS UP THERE, IT WAS ACTUALLY REALLY CLEAN, THE MOST DETERIORATED WALL, WHICH I REALLY THINK IT WOULD GET THE MOST EYES ON IT, BUT IT'S, IT WAS IN THE, UM, THE FIRST SLIDE OF THE KELLER STREET GARAGE WHERE IT SHOWED A RUSTY PLATE AND SOME METAL PLATING.
AND IT'S LIKE, THE WALL IS ABSOLUTELY FILTHY AND IT'S THE WALL THAT YOU WALK THROUGH TO GET TO THE GOLDEN CONCOURSE.
SO THE GATES ARE JUST TO THE, THE RIGHT OF THAT.
SO I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT THAT WITH ASH.
'CAUSE I FEEL LIKE YOU'D WALK, YOU'D LIKE DRIVE INTO THE PARKING GARAGE AND IT WOULD BE RIGHT THERE.
AND SO THAT COULD BE A REALLY GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO BEAUTIFY SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY NOT IN GOOD SHAPE.
BUT THOSE OTHER LARGER WALLS UPSTAIRS, I FEEL LIKE IT'S THIS OPEN GALLERY.
AND FROM THERE YOU CAN SEE EVERYTHING DOWNTOWN.
I KNOW A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE GO THERE, FOR BETTER OR WORSE, TO SKATEBOARD, UM, TO PARK FOR THE PHOENIX.
AND I FEEL LIKE THAT'S ANOTHER CONSIDERATION THERE, IS THAT A LOT OF YOUTH HANG OUT THERE.
AND SO IT WOULD STILL GET A LOT OF EYES ON IT FROM YOUNG PEOPLE.
THE ISSUE WITH THAT WALL, UM, THE METAL, SOMETIMES PAINT DOESN'T CLINGING ONTO METAL VERY WELL.
UM, IS THE ONLY ISSUE WITH THAT.
I MEAN, POSSIBLY PRIMING WOULD WORK, BUT, UH, WE'D PROBABLY HAVE TO DO A FEW TESTS WITH THAT ONE JUST 'CAUSE THE MATERIAL.
YOU CAN USE A-D-T-M-A DIRECT TO METAL PRIMER.
OH, THAT'S WHAT I USE WHEN I PAINT MY IRON WORK.
I'VE NEVER PAINTED ON METAL BEFORE, SO YEAH, YOU, AND IF YOU NEED, UM, FOR THAT SPACE, A POWER WASHER, A COMPRESSOR AND SPRAY GUN, I HAVE EVERYTHING.
CODY IS AN EXCELLENT RESOURCE RESOURCE FOR ALL CONSTRUCTION NEEDS.
YOU HAVE A PRETTY GREAT TEAM HERE OF MENTORS.
IF YOU HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT THINGS LIKE, I REALLY VIEW THIS PROJECT AS OUR OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF HELP YOU TOO ON YOUR FIRST MURAL AND BRING THIS TO OUR COMMUNITY.
I THINK THIS IS AN INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITY AND WE'RE SO GRATEFUL THAT YOU CHOSE PETALUMA.
AS THE LOCATION YOU'D LIKE TO DO THIS.
THAT WAS SOMETHING IN HER INITIAL EMAIL TO ME THAT WAS SO CHARMING WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, I I REALLY LOVE THIS COMMUNITY.
I WANNA GIVE A GIFT HERE AND MAKE, MAKE A PRESENCE HERE.
I MOVED HERE, LIKE I MOVED TO RO PARK FIVE YEARS AGO, BUT I FELL IN LOVE WITH THE AREA, SO YEAH.
UM, ANY MORE COMMITTEE INPUT HERE? I THINK THE NEXT STEP IS REALLY JUST TO HAVE ANOTHER CONVERSATION WITH BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, BUT ALSO TO LOOK AT THE WALLS IN THE GARAGE.
AND REALLY, I, IT, AT THIS POINT, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S YOUR CALL, I WOULD SAY, OKAY.
WHERE YOUR ART NEEDS TO LIVE IS WHERE YOU SHOULD PAINT IT.
SO, UM, I THINK THAT CLOSES THE MURAL CONVERSATION.
WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT PRESENTATION.
THE NEXT PRESENTATION IS THE EXTENSION OF A 2025 PROPOSAL FROM THE CALIFORNIA BLACKSMITHING ASSOCIATION TO CREATE AND DONATE A PUBLIC PIECE OF ART, UM,
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TO THE CITY OF PETALUMA, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE ASSOCIATION'S 2028 CONVENTION TO BE HELD RIGHT HERE IN PETALUMA.THIS PRESENTATION WILL NOW BE MOVED, UH, TO BE COMBINED WITH MEETING ITEM NUMBER SIX.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
OUR AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES.UM, ITEM NUMBER THREE, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE MINUTES FOR, FROM JULY 24TH, 2025, QUITE A WHILE AGO.
UM, I'M GLAD WE'RE ALL HERE TONIGHT.
I WOULD INVITE ANY, UH, COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO PROVIDE AMENDMENTS IF THEY SEE FIT.
ANYONE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR CLARIFICATIONS? OKAY.
UM, THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED AS PUBLISHED, UH, SEEING AS HOW NO ONE HAS ANY CHANGES.
AND WE WILL NOW CLOSE MEETING ITEM NUMBER THREE AND MOVE ON
[PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION]
TO PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION.THIS BRINGS US TO, UH, ITEM NUMBER FOUR, A STUDY SESSION.
IT'S THE CONSIDERATION OF PUBLIC ART PROJECT CONCEPTS FOR INSTALLATION WITHIN THE ROUNDABOUT AT PETALUMA BOULEVARD SOUTH AND CRYSTAL LANE.
THIS IS A STUDY SESSION ONLY, NO DECISION OR OTHER DISCRETIONARY ACTIONS WILL BE TAKEN THAT WOULD REQUIRE AN ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW FINDING UNDER THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT FOR THIS MEETING ITEM.
I'M GOING TO INVITE, UM, PUBLIC, UM, ART SPECIALIST, MELISSA ABER ABERCROMBIE TO START THIS MEETING.
UH, THIS ITEM NUMBER, THANK YOU.
I AM EXCITED TO WELCOME THE ROTARY ROUNDABOUT PRESENTATION THIS EVENING.
I'M GONNA BEGIN WITH A LITTLE STAFF REPORT FEEDBACK IN CASE ANYBODY'S NOT HAD NOT READ THE STAFF REPORT, AND SO THE PUBLIC CAN BE MORE AWARE OF IT.
UM, THIS EVENING, IT'S RECOMMENDED THAT THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE RECEIVE A PRESENTATION FROM THE PETALUMA ROTARY CLUB, AS WELL AS PUBLIC COMMENT AND CONDUCT A STUDY SESSION TO PROVIDE NON-BINDING COMMENTS ON CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS FOR THE ENHANCEMENT OF THE ROUNDABOUT AT PETALUMA BOULEVARD SOUTH AT CRYSTAL LANE.
FOR SOME BACKGROUND, THE PETALUMA BOULEVARD ROUNDABOUT AT CRYSTAL LANE IS APPROXIMATELY 90 FEET IN DIAMETER.
IT SLOPES GENTLY FROM WEST TO EAST.
IT CONTAINS MULTIPLE UNDERGROUND UTILITIES, INCLUDING ASSOCIATED UTILITY MANHOLES AND GRATES.
IT ALSO HAS THE SONOMA COUNTY AQUEDUCT THAT RUNS ACROSS THE, UM, THE ROUNDABOUT IN, WHEN IT WAS FIRST INSTALLED IN 2011, IT HAD SHRUBS AND TREES ON IT.
THOSE HAVE SINCE DIED, AND IT'S PRETTY DETERIORATED AT THIS TIME.
THE SITE, UM, AT THAT TIME, THE SITE WAS IDENTIFIED AS A PREFERRED LOCATION FOR PUBLIC ART, AND IT WAS IDENTIFIED IN OUR PUBLIC ART MASTER PLAN.
THIS PROJECT S BEGAN FOR ME,
SHE CONTACTED THE CITY OF PETALUMA TO REQUEST INFORMATION AND RECEIVE GUIDELINES FOR CREATING ARTWORK FOR THE ROUNDABOUT.
THE CLUB EXPRESSED A DESIRE TO CREATE A WELCOMING ARTISTIC VISION FOR THE ENTRY TO PETALUMA LENA FURLAN, WHO'S ALSO HERE THIS EVENING TO PRESENT FROM SOLE LANDSCAPE INCORPORATED, IS SERVING AS A PROJECT MANAGER AND PRIMARY CONTACT FOR THE PROJECT.
THE ROTARY CLUB PROPOSES FUNDRAISING TO SUPPORT THE PROFESSIONAL DESIGN AND INSTALLATION OF ARTWORK, AS WELL AS THE MAINTENANCE OF THE INSTALLED ARTWORK.
FOLLOWING THE EARLY OCTOBER CONVERSATIONS WITH PUBLIC WORKS, THE ROTARY CLUB SHARED A DRAFT CONCEPTUAL DESIGN PROPOSED WITH STAFF.
THE ROUNDABOUT SITE FEATURES THE UTILITIES.
AS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED, STAFF REVIEWED THE PROPOSAL AND PROVIDED FEEDBACK.
I'M NOW GONNA CITE SOME OF THE FEEDBACK FROM THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.
THERE WERE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM PUBLIC WORKS THAT THE DESIGN STAY WITHIN THE LANDSCAPE AREA OF THE ROUNDABOUT.
THERE ARE NO KNOWN SAFETY OR SITE DISTANCE CONSTRAINTS.
WE RECOMMEND A 10 FOOT BUFFER FROM THE EDGE OF THE MOUNTABLE APRON.
THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT UTILITY ACCESS NEEDS WITHIN THE ROUNDABOUT.
ROUNDABOUT CURVATURE AND MULTIPLE SETS OF CURBS ARE FEATURES OF THE ROUNDABOUT TO MINIMIZE ACCIDENTS AND, UM, UTILITY CONFLICTS.
THEY RECOMMEND A 10 FOOT DIAMETER VERTICALLY ORIENTED SCULPTURE FOR THE CENTER OF THE ROUNDABOUT.
ADDITIONAL MITIGATIONS COULD INCLUDE LIGHTING AND A GRADUAL SLOPE FROM THE PERIMETER TO THE MIDDLE OF THE ROUNDABOUT SO THAT ANY ERRANT VEHICLES ARE SLOWED OR DIRECTED AWAY FROM THE SCULPTURE.
RECOMMENDATION FROM WATER RESOURCES AND UTILITIES DEPARTMENT ARE TO ENSURE THAT THE STRUCTURE OR ITS FOUNDATION ALLOW ACCESS FOR NECESSARY EQUIPMENT, INCLUDING THE CITY'S VACUUM TRUCK CAMERA, INSPECTION TRUCK, OR HEAVY EQUIPMENT VEHICLES SUCH AS EXCAVATORS, BACKHOES THAT ARE REQUIRED TO DIG UP PIPES FOR REPAIRS.
THEY ASK FOR A 10 FOOT ON EACH SIDE, ACCESS FROM THE MANHOLES AND FROM THE AQUEDUCT.
SONOMA COUNTY'S AQUEDUCT RUNS THROUGH THE SITE AS WELL
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AS I'VE EXPLAINED.AND SO THEY HAD THE SIMILAR RECOMMENDATION AND THE CONCLUSION OF THEIR, UM, THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS WAS THAT THE STRUCTURE SHOULD HAVE A SMALLER DIAMETER, SO STAY WITHIN THE 10 FEET OR SLIGHTLY SMALLER AND MAKE IT, UH, LOCATED THREE FEET SOUTHWEST OF CENTER.
THE SONOMA COUNTY WATER ALSO RECOMMENDED THAT THE ART INSTALLATION NOT BE, BE IN THE CENTER OF THE ROUNDABOUT AND MINIMIZE ANY POTENTIAL IMPACTS.
RECOMMENDATIONS FROM PETALUMA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THEY SAID THAT THEY HAD, UM, I'M SORRY.
THEY'VE HAD HAD COLLISION DATA OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS THAT SHOWED THAT THERE WERE 17 COLLISIONS TOTAL, SEVEN BEING INJURY COLLISIONS AT THAT SITE.
THEY ALSO, UM, POINTED OUT THAT ONE TOOK PLACE AS RECENT AS JUST THREE WEEKS AGO.
THE CONDITIONS FOR THAT SITE ARE SUCH THAT YOU COME OFF THE FREEWAY, YOU SEE A SIGN THAT SAYS SLOW TO 15 ROUNDABOUT AHEAD, AND YOU START CURVING.
AND SO THE ROUNDABOUT REQUIRES THAT PEOPLE SLOW DOWN QUITE QUICKLY FROM THEIR INCREASED SPEED.
SO THAT'S PARTIALLY SOMETHING THAT'S WRONG WITH THE, THE SITE RIGHT NOW.
SO WE DO HAVE SOME EXISTING CONDITIONS THAT ARE PROBLEMATIC.
HOWEVER, THE SITE IS ALSO NOT LIT AT ALL.
THERE'S NOTHING REALLY TO IDENTIFY IT IN THE DARKNESS.
AND THE 14 COLLISIONS OF THOSE 17 OCCURRED AFTER 5:00 PM AND SO THAT'S A CONSIDERATION OF THE SITE.
ALSO, 14 OF THE COLLISIONS ALSO INVOLVED VEHICLES HITTING FIXED OBJECTS.
ONE LEFT IN THE ROADWAY AND TWO WERE ROLLOVER COLLISIONS.
THESE WERE RELATING TO THE SIGNAGE AT THE SITE.
SO THAT'S BEEN ADJUSTED A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT TIMES.
WE HAVE GOOD DATA TO PROVIDE YOU TO INFORM THE DESIGN.
AND THE ROTARY GROUP HAS BEEN VERY OPEN TO THIS FEEDBACK.
THEY'RE DESIGNING WITH THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, AND WE CAN CREATE INTRODUCTIONS THAT HELP POLICE AND THEIR ENGINEER HIT A GOOD LOCATION FOR IT.
UM, I'VE ALSO PROVIDED POLICIES ON THE RECEIPT OF PUBLIC ART.
THAT'S OUR, UM, MASTER PLAN POLICIES ON HOW WE RECEIVE GIFTS.
AND THEY INCLUDE THE REQUIREMENT FOR MAINTENANCE, WHICH THE ROTARY IS AL ALSO RECEPTIVE TO MY RECOMMENDATIONS.
FOLLOW THE REST OF THE CITY STAFF WHO'S REVIEWED YOUR EARLY PROPOSAL.
THEY WOULD BE TO LIMIT THE SITE IDENTIFIED TO 10 FOOT OFFSET THREE FEET SOUTHWEST, THAT THE SIGN BE ELEVATED AND MOST LIKELY MOUNTED ON ONE TO TWO SITES TO KEEP IT OFF THE GROUND AND OPEN UP THE VIEW SHED.
UM, AND THAT WILL ALLEVIATE ACCESS CONCERNS.
THE D DESIGN SHOULD ALSO NOT ENCOURAGE PEDESTRIANS TO WALK INTO THE ROUNDABOUT.
THERE IS NO CROSSWALK THAT LEADS DIRECTLY TO THE ROUNDABOUTS.
WE REALLY WANNA KEEP, KEEP IF THEY'RE GONNA TAKE SELFIES OR ENGAGE WITH IT, THAT THEY STAY ON THE SIDEWALK AND DO IT FROM AN OFFSITE.
I ALSO WANNA REMIND, UM, THE COMMITTEE THAT THERE IS THE INTENTION TO BUILD THE COFIELD BRIDGE.
SO THIS SITE WILL BE USED BY MUCH MORE USERS IN THE FUTURE.
SO THE OPPORTUNITY TO LIGHT IT OR INSPIRE IT IS REALLY PRIME RIGHT NOW.
BUT I, I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING THE PRESENTATION FROM ROTARY AND I'LL BE PULLING IT UP RIGHT NOW.
AND IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OF ME OR THEM AFTER THEIR PRESENTATION, WE'LL BEGIN OUR DISCUSSION.
WE'RE, THANK YOU, ELENA, IF YOU COULD JOIN THE PODIUM.
I'M LENA FURLONG AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE PETALUMA ROTARY CLUB.
I'M ALSO WITH SOUL LANDSCAPES, AND AS MELISSA SAID, WE'LL BE HEADING OUT THE PROJECT HERE FOR WHAT WE'RE CALLING THE PETALUMA GATEWAY AND BEAUTIFICATION PROJECT.
SO THESE ARE, UH, JUST SORT OF A LIST OF OUR REASONS WHY WE WOULD LIKE TO IMPROVE THIS.
UM, WE KNOW THAT, UM, THE ROUNDABOUT, UM, CNN NAMED PETALUMA, THE SIXTH BEST TOWN TO VISIT IN PETALUMA.
AND AT, IF YOU, YOU KNOW, AS YOU GET OFF THE FREEWAY AT THE SOUTH END OF TOWN AND YOU GO UNDER, YOU KNOW, YOU PASS THE PUBLIC STORAGE BUILDING, THERE'S THAT BEAUTIFUL MURAL, AND THEN YOU GO UNDER THE FREEWAY AND YOU SORT OF COME TO
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THIS, YOU KNOW, SORT OF THIS, THE ROUNDABOUT.AND, AND WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO'VE MOVED HERE RECENTLY THAT WONDERED IF THEY WERE GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO GET INTO OUR BEAUTIFUL TOWN.
YOU KNOW, THEY CHECK THEIR MAPS.
SO, UM, IF YOU SWITCH TO THE NEXT SLIDE, THIS IS WHAT, UH, ALL OF THE VISITORS OF OUR TOWN, INCLUDING OBVIOUSLY OUR RESIDENTS ARE, UM, MET WITH AT THE SOUTH END OF TOWN.
OH, IS IT, IS IT
SO THE ROUNDABOUT IS ESSENTIALLY, AS MELISSA HAD DESCRIBED, IT'S THIS 90 FOOT DIAMETER.
IT'S THIS HUGE, YOU KNOW, BIG CIRCULAR SPACE THAT'S JUST A BEAUTIFUL BLANK CANVAS WITH A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, PLAY SOMETHING THAT IS A, NOT ONLY JUST A WELCOME TO PETALUMA SIGN, BUT A BUT A PUBLIC ART PIECE THAT REALLY SORT OF TELLS THE STORY OF PETALUMA.
AND OUR INTENTION IS, UM, AND OUR CONCEPT IS IT WILL BE COMPLETELY INFORMED BY ALL OF THE CITY COMMENTS, RIGHT? WITH, IN TERMS OF STAYING WITHIN, UM, THE 10 FOOT DIAMETER, UM, WORKING WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, UM, PUBLIC WORKS AND ALL OF THE, ALL OF THE LOCAL DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, UTILITIES THERE.
AND TO MELISSA'S POINT, IT'S, IT'S SO DARK WHEN YOU DRIVE THROUGH THERE, ALL THE LIGHTS THAT EXIST ARE CURRENTLY ON THE SIDEWALKS AROUND.
SO IF, YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW SOME OF THE ACCIDENTS WERE DUIS AND WHATNOT, AND I BELIEVE THE ONE, THREE WEEKS AGO WAS A DUI.
SO THERE'S, THERE ARE TIMES WHERE OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE ISN'T AN ANY NUMBER OF LIGHTING OR, YOU KNOW, UH, WHAT YOU CAN DO TO PREVENT THAT.
BUT IN THIS SPACE HERE, WE HAVE THIS REALLY JUST BEAUTIFUL OPPORTUNITY AND WE FEEL LIKE IT'S GOING TO BENEFIT, UH, JUST THE OVERALL FEEL OF PETALUMA.
UM, IT'LL BE, IT'LL SPEAK TO OUR RESIDENTS HERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY'RE LEAVING FOR WORK, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THIS AND THINK WHAT A COOL PLACE I LIVE IN, RIGHT? AND, UH, BENEFIT OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES.
UM, UH, IT'LL ADD JUST BEAUTIFICATION TO PETALUMA AND REALLY, UM, UM, WE, WE FEEL LIKE IT'S GOING TO DRAW, IT'LL BE GOOD FOR DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES AND JUST THE OVERALL SORT OF, UM, FEEL IN PETALUMA AS YOU'RE ENTERING AND LEAVING.
IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE THERE, HERE'S, UH, OUR BASIC BULLET POINTS FOR OUR CONCEPT.
AS I'VE, UM, LAID OUT SOME OF THEM ALREADY.
UH, WE ARE LOOKING AT LIGHTING ON THE SIGN AND MAYBE BACK LIGHTING INSIDE OF THE PIECE.
AND AS WELL AS AROUND SORT OF THE EDGES THERE TO DELINEATE THAT IN, TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT THERE IS A ROUNDABOUT HERE, UH, COMMUNITY ART PIECE.
UM, AND WE'RE THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SOME SOFT SCAPE TO SOME LOW MAINTENANCE SHRUBBERY.
AND JUST TO BEAUTIFY SORT OF THE EDGES HERE.
UM, THAT WOULD MINIMIZE, WOULD BE MINIMAL IF, IF A CAR VEHICLE WERE TO RUN IT OVER, YOU KNOW, IT WOULDN'T BE, UM, YOU KNOW, A TREE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD CAUSE, UM, MAJOR DAMAGE.
HERE IS AN OUTLINE OF OUR KEY TEAM MEMBERS THAT WE PLAN ON, UH, WORKING WITH.
WE HAVE LOCAL VENDORS, LOCAL CONTRACTORS, LOCAL ARTISTS, UH, LOCAL STRUCTURAL ENGINEERS, UM, OBVIOUSLY CITY PARTNERSHIP, AND THEN OUR CLUB, THE ROTARY CLUB OF PETALUMA AS WE ARE PEOPLE OF ACTION.
YEAH, SO A BRIEF HISTORY OF OUR CLUB.
OUR CLUB, UH, WAS CHARTERED IN 1923.
UH, WE CONSIDER OURSELVES LEADER IN AGRICULTURE, BUSINESS EDUCATION, AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
WE'VE WORKED, UM, FOR MANY YEARS WITH THE CITY OF PETALUMA IN PARTNERSHIP ON VARIOUS PROJECTS THAT WE WILL GET INTO IN THE NEXT, UH, SLIDES HERE.
UH, MCNAIR PARK TENNIS COURT WAS A ROTARY PROJECT.
IT WAS REALLY COOL PUTTING THIS PRESENTATION TOGETHER.
'CAUSE I ACTUALLY PERSONALLY LEARNED A LOT MORE ABOUT THE HISTORY OF OUR CLUB AND OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY.
IT MADE ME, IT SORT OF MADE MY HEART GROW EVEN BIGGER.
WE CAN CONTINUE, UM, UH, THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT FOR KENNELWORTH, MCDOWELL, LARA AND WALNUT PARK IS, UM, WE CAN PUT OUR NAME ON THAT.
YEAH,
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UH, THE DURST SPORTS CENTER COMPLEX RENOVATION, THAT WAS A BIG PROJECT THAT WE DID NEXT.UH, PETALUMA BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, WHICH WE WERE JUST HAVING A NICE POWOW ABOUT
UM, WE ALSO, UM, HAVE, UM, MCKINLEY SCHOOL MENTORS.
UH, THE MCNAIR PARK PLAYGROUND, UH, WHICH WAS IN 2002.
WALNUT PARK, WHICH WAS A NICE LARGE PROJECT.
UH, THE KIDS AND I WERE JUST PLAYING THERE YESTERDAY AT VETERAN'S DAY.
UH, ROTARY PLAZA AT SRJC ON THE PETALUMA CAMPUS WAS ONE OF OUR PROJECTS AS WELL.
UH, THE, UH, THE CENTER PARK, THIS WAS NEW INFORMATION TO ME.
I DIDN'T REALIZE WE WERE INVOLVED IN THAT, BUT HOW COOL IS THAT? THE WALNUT PARK, UH, WITH PETALUMA ALLIANCE, UH, MORE ON THE WALNUT PARK RIGHT THERE.
UM, BUT THIS IS ONE OF OUR, UM, MOST RECENT AND LARGER PROJECTS THAT WE WORKED ON WAS THE MIRACLE LEAGUE, UM, FIELD AND THE PAVILION.
UH, HERE'S SOME PHOTOS OF THE JOY THAT WE EXPERIENCE AND THE SORT OF REWARD FROM THAT LARGE PROJECT.
AND THE SEASON JUST ENDED OVER AT MIRACLE LEAGUE, WHICH IS REALLY COOL.
THIS IS A REALLY AMAZING PROJECT, UH, THAT WAS FULLY FUNDED BY OUR CLUB.
UH, 100% FUNDRAISED OVER $200,000.
UH, IT WAS INSTALLED BY A LOCAL CONTRACTOR WHO WAS A CLUB MEMBER, AND WE WERE ABLE TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A PRESENCE THERE AND IT'S, UM, IT'S ONE OF OUR BABIES.
SO, IN CLOSING, UH, HERE'S MORE ABOUT WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH, UH, THE CITY OF PETALUMA.
WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY ON THIS PROJECT AND, UM, BRING, YOU KNOW, THE, A WELCOMING PIECE OF ART TO OUR CITY, AS WE SAID BEFORE.
UM, AND AS WE'VE SAID THROUGHOUT THIS PRESENTATION, WE HAVE OVER A HUNDRED YEARS OF HISTORY WORKING WITH THE CITY AND, AND, AND FOR THE PUBLIC AND BRINGING, UM, YOU KNOW, ENRICHING OUR COMMUNITY.
SO, UM, AS WE SAID, ALSO, THIS IS GOING TO BE 100% FUNDRAISED, UH, BY OUR CLUB AND INSTALLED.
AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO PARTNER WITH YOU AND WE'RE REALLY, UH, APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THIS TO Y'ALL THIS EVENING AND LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING YOUR COMMENTS.
SO BEFORE WE GET INTO CONVERSATION, ARE THERE ANY MORE, UH, AND DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR LENA? AND, UM, WHAT ARE NEXT STEPS FOR US? REALLY, THIS IS, WE'RE NOT, OBVIOUSLY NOT DECISION MAKING.
WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO THIS EVENING IS JUST HAVE A DISCUSSION, ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT THEIR INTENTIONS ARE, IF YOU HAVE ANY DESIGN LEANINGS THAT YOU KNOW RIGHT NOW, OR IF YOU GUYS HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS OR ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SHARE ABOUT THE SITE OR THE EXPERIENCE THAT IT CAN INFORM THEM WHAT TYPES OF THINGS YOU THINK THE CITY MIGHT BE LOOKING FOR OR, YOU KNOW, ANY KIND OF ADVICE THAT YOU FEEL.
BUT AT THIS STAGE, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IN THIS PROCESS, BECAUSE THIS IS ANOTHER ONE WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FUNDRAISE AND THEY'RE GONNA BE WORKING ON THE PROJECT, THEY'RE USING PROFESSIONALS FROM THE BEGINNING.
SO THEY'LL HAVE A CIVIL ENGINEER, THEY'LL HAVE AN ART PROFESSIONAL WORK ON THE PROJECT.
THIS IS GONNA BE HANDLED ESPECIALLY CON, YOU KNOW, WITH A SPECIAL CARE TO THE SITE BECAUSE IT IS SO PRIMARY AND IT ALSO DOES HAVE SO MANY CONSTRICTIONS.
UM, AND THEN WHEN THEY'RE READY TO FINALIZE THEIR PROJECT, WE WILL REVIEW IT IN-HOUSE.
UM, BECAUSE IT IS OUTSIDE OF PUBLIC ART FUNDS, I DO WANT THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE TO BE ABLE TO GIVE DESIGN, LIKE, GIVE DESIGN FEEDBACK.
AND I THINK THIS IS A PARTICULAR GROUP WHERE I'D LIKE TO HAVE THREE PUBLIC ART MEMBERS COME AS AN ADVISORY GROUP AVAILABLE TO THE ROTARY CLUB.
WE'VE DONE THAT ON OTHER PROJECTS IN THE PAST.
AND I THINK ON THIS ONE, IT'S ESPECIALLY PERTINENT BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO HAVE STAFF, YOU KNOW, DO THAT FOR YOU.
I FEEL LIKE THAT'S YOU GUYS AND HAVING SOME, HAVING A TEAM OF PEOPLE TO JUST KIND OF BE, BE THERE AS ADVOCATES AND, AND ADVISORY.
BEFORE WE DO GET INTO OUR CONVERSATION, WE SHOULD FIND OUT FROM MURIEL IF WE'VE HAD ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS.
WE RECEIVED NO PUBLIC COMMENTS PRIOR TO THIS MEETING.
UM, WE'LL CONTINUE WITH THAT, LENA AND ALL ROTARY TEAM THAT'S HERE.
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BEING HERE AND ALL OF THE WORK YOU DO IN PETALUMA AND, YOU KNOW, AROUND THE WORLD OR NATION.UM, BUT ESPECIALLY IN PETALUMA, WHAT A LEGACY YOU HAVE BEHIND YOU.
I CAN'T IMAGINE THERE'S ONE PERSON IN PETALUMA WHO WOULD NOT WANT SOMETHING IN THAT ROUNDABOUT.
IT'S NOT AN ADVERTISEMENT OR AN ENDORSEMENT OF OUR TOWN.
SO, UM, I'M VERY EXCITED TO HEAR WHAT YOU'LL BE DOING, UM, SEE SOME DESIGNS AND, YOU KNOW, HELP YOU ALONG THE WAY AS YOU MEET.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ANY CONSIDERATIONS WE CAN OFFER YOU AS A TEAM, UM, WE'RE ALL GRATEFUL TO HAVING THIS PROJECT COME BEFORE US, SO THANK YOU.
DO WE HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT? I'M SORRY.
UM, PLEASE COME UP TO THE, UM, PODIUM AND I, I'M NOT A ROTARIAN, BUT I'M LENA'S FRIEND AND SHE, OKAY, WELL, IF YOU COULD JUST STATE YOUR NAME FIRST, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
MY NAME, MY NAME IS EDMUND MCGILL, AND WE LIVE AT 5 5 22 SAPPHIRE STREET, WHICH IS RIGHT ABOVE WHERE, UM, THIS CIRCLE IS.
AND WE PASS, MY WIFE AND I PASS IT EVERY DAY AND SOMETIMES A COUPLE TIMES A DAY.
AND, AND I WALK PAST IT FREQUENTLY.
IT'S THE SOUTH GATE TO PETALUMA.
SO, UM, IT REALLY DOES DESERVE, UM, A BEAUTIFIC, A BEAUTIFICATION.
UM, WE RECENTLY MOVED TO PETALUMA.
WE'VE LIVED SOUTH OF HERE FOR THE LAST 50 YEARS.
AND SO AT THIS POINT IN OUR LIVES, WE WERE LOOKING FOR A CHANGE.
AND WE'VE ALWAYS LOVED PETALUMA, BUT WE, WE WALK THROUGH THE TOWN VERY FREQUENTLY AND WE HAVE, WE HAVE TROD JUST ABOUT, I WON'T SAY EVERY STREET IN THE TOWN, BUT QUITE A BIT OF IT.
AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT THE TOWN IS A WORK OF ART.
I LOOK AT ALL THESE BEAUTIFUL HOUSES AND ALL THE COMMERCIAL INSTITUTIONS, AND I THINK LOOK AT ALL THE EFFORT, TIME, MONEY, AND LOVE THAT WENT INTO IMPROVING THESE THINGS, NOT RIPPING THEM DOWN AS, AS HAS BEEN DONE IN SO MANY OTHER PLACES WHERE, WHERE THE, SO MANY OF THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE BEAUTIFUL IN PETALUMA, IN OTHER TOWNS IN CALIFORNIA AND ELSEWHERE HAVE BEEN JUST RIPPED DOWN.
UH, SO, UH, TO ME, THE WHOLE TOWN.
AND MY WIFE HAS THE SAME IMPRESSION, IF I MAY SPEAK FOR HER ON THIS, I THINK I CAN ON THIS ONE.
ANYWAY, THAT, THAT THE TOWN IS A WORK OF ART.
WE, WE, WE, WHEN LENA TOLD ME THAT SHE WAS INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT TO BEAUTIFY, UH, THE, THE, UH, TRAFFIC CIRCLE THERE, I WAS VERY, VERY EXCITED BECAUSE IT IS THE, THE, IT IS THE SOUTH GATE OF THIS BEAUTIFUL TOWN.
AND IT DESERVES TO ANNOUNCE WHAT THE TOWN IS, THE TOWNS OF WORK, OF ART.
AND I'M NOT A ROTARIAN, BUT I HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT I'M A GREAT ADMIRER OF ROTARIANS WHEN I SEE THE WORK THAT THEY DO.
AND TO HAVE A PARTNER LIKE THAT IN THE TOWN TO, TO HELP, TO BEAUTIFY AND CONTINUE TO MAKE THE TOWN MORE BEAUTIFUL IS JUST A WONDERFUL THING.
IT SHOWS THE, THE, THE, THE OTHER WORK OF ART IS THE INTEREST OF THE CITIZENS IN PARTICIPATING IN WHAT HAPPENS IN THE TOWN.
AND THAT'S EVIDENT IN MANY WAYS.
AND THE ROTARIANS ARE JUST ANOTHER ASPECT OF THAT.
SO I WANT TO THANK YOU AND I WANT TO TELL YOU AS NEW RESIDENTS IN PET, NEW RESIDENTS IN PETALUMA, HOW EXCITED AND HAPPY WE ARE TO BE HERE.
AND A BIG PART OF THAT IS HOW BEAUTIFUL THE TOWN IS.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO WHATEVER YOU CAN TO FACILITATE THIS PROJECT AND WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO, TO WATCHING AS IT DEVELOPS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR KIND WORDS AND UM, ENTHUSIASM FOR THIS PROJECT.
AND, UH, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO GET INVOLVED IN THE MAKING A BEAUTIFUL ART AS WELL.
HEY, SO I THINK, UM, WE ARE NOW OPEN FOR CONVERSATION UP HERE ON THE DICE.
IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO KICK THIS OFF.
UM, LIKE I SAID, I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT.
IT'S BEEN A PLACE, A LOCATION THAT WE'VE BEEN WANTING TO PUT A PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, A WORK OF PUBLIC ART ON FOR A VERY LONG TIME, PROBABLY SINCE IT WAS BUILT, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YEARS AGO.
BUT, UM, SO I'M REALLY GLAD TO SEE YOU GUYS PICKING UP THE BATON WITH THIS PROJECT 'CAUSE IT'S REALLY SORELY NEEDED.
WHO, UM, WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADD SOME KICKOFF INFORMATION TO THIS? ANYBODY? GO AHEAD.
WELL, I WAS WONDERING, DO WE KNOW THIS SITE IS VISIBLE FROM THE FREEWAY AS WELL, RIGHT?
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I THINK IT IS.I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE A PASSENGER AS YOU'RE GOING OVER THE BRIDGE IN TRAFFIC TO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WERE IN SOME TRAFFIC, UNLESS, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE PIECE THAT WAS PLACED THERE WAS SO TALL, WHICH I DON'T, OR MAYBE WE JUST DON'T EVER SEE IT BECAUSE IT'S BLANK.
MAYBE
ALSO, WHEN YOU'RE ON THE FREEWAY, IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE, UM, DERO PIECE THAT JUST WENT IN ON THE, UH, THE PENINSULA RIVER, WHICH IS ALSO THE RIVER PARKS AND OTHER PROJECT, UM, OF THE ROTARY, UH, THAT IS CLEARLY VISIBLE GOING IN AND OUT.
THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS BECAUSE OF ITS COLORING YOU, YOU KIND OF CAN LOSE IT IN THE LANDSCAPE.
SO IF THIS SITE IS VISIBLE FROM THE FREEWAY, IT'S GOOD TO CAPITALIZE ON THAT USING A SORT OF A DISTINGUISHABLE SHAPE AND COLOR, HAVING SOME COLOR TO THIS PIECE SO IT DOESN'T BLEND IN TO THE LANDSCAPE WHEN IT'S SAY, DRY IN THE SUMMER.
SO I THINK IT'D BE GOOD TO CHECK AND SEE IS THIS VISIBLE ON THE WAY IN OR OUT? UM, BECAUSE WE WANT TO, MAYBE PEOPLE ARE, ARE NOT PLANNING ON STOPPING IN PETALUMA, BUT THEY SEE SOMETHING THAT CATCHES THEIR EYE AND THEY DECIDE TO TAKE OFF IN THE LAST EXIT BEFORE THEY GO SOUTH.
UM, ALSO, UM, I THINK SOMETHING YOU MIGHT WANNA THINK ABOUT, I'M SURE THIS IS PART OF YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS, ARE THE, THE SIGNAGE LEADING ONTO THAT EXIT RAMP.
THERE'S THE, THE BILLBOARD, WHICH HAS A VERY RETRO FEEL.
I MEAN, IT'S AN OLD, UM, METAL, I THINK, UH, BILLBOARD THAT'S, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE A HALF A MILE, MILE OR SO BEFORE THIS EXIT OR A QUARTER.
AND THEN THERE'S ALSO THE HUGE ARTWORK OF, UM, MAXFIELD BALA ON THE PUBLIC STORAGE PLACE.
SO THAT KIND OF SETS UP A DIALOGUE FOR SOMEONE AND YOU WANNA, MIGHT WANNA CONSIDER HOW YOURS IS DIFFERENT OR ADDS TO THAT STORY, BUT, UM, I, I LOVE CODY'S IDEA OF SOME COLOR.
UM, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW, WHAT THE VERTICAL, UM, RESTRAINTS ARE ON THIS, BUT THAT'S ALSO ANOTHER WAY THAT YOU CAN, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST MAKE SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY EYE CATCHING AND, OR ALSO WITH LIGHTS, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO UPLIGHT OR IF THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS AROUND THAT.
AND ALSO AT NIGHT THERE'S THE, THE TRESTLE OR THE, THE THING THAT THE DRAWBRIDGE THAT GOES UP AND DOWN THAT HAS ITS OWN SORT OF LIGHT SITUATION.
SO THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT ARE SORT OF STOPS ALONG THE WAY, IF YOU WILL, AS YOU COME INTO PETALUMA THAT'S NORTHBOUND.
I DON'T KNOW HOW SOUTHBOUND IF, IF WE CAN WELL, THERE'S NO ON, THERE'S NO WAY TO GET OFF THERE.
SO IT, IT'S KIND OF A MOOT POINT, ISN'T IT? YEAH, I THINK, UM, WE WANT TO EXPLORE BOTH, YOU KNOW, UPLIGHTING AND BACKLIGHTING AND REALLY JUST BRING, YOU KNOW, MAKE THIS A CENTERPIECE AS YOU, AND I'LL PROVIDE THE LIGHTING FOR THE LIGHTING MANDATES FOR YOU FROM THE CITY.
'CAUSE THERE'S NOT, NOT ALL UPLIGHTING IS ALLOWED BECAUSE WE DON'T WANNA UPSET ANIMAL LIFE, ESPECIALLY AT NIGHT.
BUT YOU CAN HAVE INTERNAL LT, YOU CAN HAVE A DOWNCAST LIGHT.
SO THERE ARE OPTIONS, BUT I WANNA GIVE YOU THAT RIGHT AWAY SO YOU CAN HAVE THAT AND I'LL SEND IT OFF TOMORROW.
AND ONE OTHER QUESTION I MAY HAVE FORGOTTEN.
WHAT IS YOUR TIMEFRAME? WELL, WE ARE PLANNING ON STARTING FUNDRAISING FOR THIS.
IT, UM, AS SOON AS WE GET THROUGH WHATEVER THE NEXT STEPS ARE IN DESIGN REVIEW AND CAN GET SORT OF AN ROM BUDGET PUT TOGETHER, UM, UH, WE WOULD LOVE, I MEAN, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS PROJECT GET STARTED BY, UM, JULY.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING HAPPENING AND BREAKING GROUND BY JULY.
AND I DON'T, I FEEL LIKE BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE IN WORKING WITH THE CITY OF PETALUMA AND GOING THROUGH PLANNING AND BUILDING, I THINK THAT'S A REASONABLE TIMELINE FOR IT.
BUT WE'D LIKE TO START FUNDRAISING IMMEDIATELY ON IT.
IN ONE OF YOUR SLIDES YOU SAID HE WANTED IT TO TELL THE STORY OF PETALUMA, AND I WAS HOPING YOU COULD EXPAND ON THAT.
AND IN ANOTHER SLIDE YOU MENTIONED, UM, LOCAL ARTISTS.
SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF YOU'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED IT AND DONE AN R-F-Q-R-F-P OR IF YOU KNOW, HOW, IF YOU CAN JUST EXPAND A LITTLE BIT ON YOUR PROCESS THERE.
YEAH, SO THE, THE STORY OF PETALUMA WAS REALLY SORT OF AN INSPIRATION BASED ON, UM, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO CREATE A PUBLIC ART PIECE.
WE WERE SORT OF, UM, LOOKING AT IDEAS OF, YOU KNOW, DO WE USE METAL? WHAT IS OUR, WHAT IS OUR MEDIUM HERE THAT WE'RE GONNA BE USING FOR THIS? AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO STAY AWAY FROM LIKE, SOMETHING THAT CAN BE BUILT WITH JUST A CNC
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MACHINE.UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT, UM, I ORIGINAL ITERATIONS WAS, WERE SORT OF, UM, UM, JUST IMAGES OF WHAT, WHAT IS PETALUMA? YOU KNOW, WE ARE, UM, WE HAVE OBVIOUSLY THE CHICKEN HISTORY, RIGHT? WE HAVE A LOT OF FOOD, WE HAVE A LOT OF INDUSTRY, WE HAVE THE RIVER, YOU KNOW, WE WERE SORT OF TRYING TO INCORPORATE SOME ELEMENTS.
AND THEN WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF ARTISTS THAT WE HAVE IN MIND THAT WE WILL BE APPROACHING, UM, TO GET A BETTER FEEL FOR WHO IT, WE WOULD FEEL SORT OF IS THE BEST FIT.
AND, UM, WE ARE, UM, WE'LL BE PUTTING THAT OUT INTO SORT OF, YOU KNOW, INTO THE COMMITTEE, INTO OUR INTERNAL COMMITTEE AND, UM, MAKING A DECISION ON THAT AND BRINGING THAT FORTH IN OUR NEXT STEPS WITH THE CITY.
UM, WHEN WE SORT OF SHOW UP WITH SOME RENDERINGS AND SAY, WHAT CAN WE DO? YOU KNOW, IS THIS GONNA WORK? YEAH, GREAT.
I MEAN, I THINK IT'S A WONDERFUL IDEA.
SO, UH, FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS I COMMUTED DOWN TO SAN FRANCISCO AND YEAH, IT'S LIKE THERE'S NOTHING THERE.
SO I'M I'M THRILLED THAT YOU'RE DOING IT.
UH, I WAS GONNA ASK ABOUT, UM, JUST BEST PRACTICES IN TERMS OF, OF MITIGATING TRAFFIC ENCROACHMENT ON THAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE IF THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T EVEN DON'T WANNA PUT A BARRIER NECESSARILY, OR THOSE, YOU KNOW, BUT JUST WHAT THOSE BEST PRACTICES ARE KIND OF WORLDWIDE, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO TRY AND KEEP THIS SAFE.
AND SO JUST LOOKING INTO THAT FUNDING AND, AND HOW TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT, UH, THAT IS DONE IN A ELEGANT WAY THAT MATCHES THE SPACE.
AND MAYBE THERE'S A WAY TO, UH, TO MIRROR THE, THE WAVES OF THE RIVER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
JUST, BUT, BUT STILL PROTECT THE, THE ART AND THE, THE INVESTMENT YOU'RE ALL MAKING.
SO JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE.
UM, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID NOTICE IN OUR OWN SORT OF RESEARCH AROUND THIS IS THAT WHEN YOU COME UNDER THE OVERPASS THERE, THERE'S, THERE IS A SIGN THAT DROPS DOWN TO 35 BEFORE THEN YOU DROP DOWN TO 15, BUT IT'S REALLY OBSCURED.
SO WE WERE SORT OF TOSSING AROUND THE IDEA OF PROPOSING SOME TREE WORK, YOU KNOW, PRUNE THOSE BACK.
OR EVEN PERHAPS INSTALLING A YOUR, YOUR SPEED IS SORT OF, YOU KNOW, JUST TO GET PEOPLE'S ATTENTION HERE, LET'S SLOW IT DOWN.
AND THEN WE FEEL LIKE, UM, AS, AS YOU WERE SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN TOSSING AROUND THE IDEA OF, YOU KNOW, IF THIS IS ON, IF IT'S ON ONE POST, YOU KNOW, IS IT SORT OF ROUNDED, YOU KNOW, AND, AND IT'S SO FAR THE, THE, THE INFORMATION THAT WE'VE BEEN GIVEN AND SORT OF, UM, WHAT'S COME BACK FROM THE CITY ALREADY HAS TO DO WITH PLACING IT AS SUCH THAT IF SOMEBODY DOES SORT OF GO OFF, THEY HAVE A BIG BUFFER AREA AND THEY WON'T ACTUALLY HIT THE PIECE ITSELF.
SO WORST CASE SCENARIO WOULD BE THEY WOULD RUN OVER SOFTSCAPE OR TAKE OUT A, A LIGHT FIXTURE OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW.
SO YEAH, JUST ANOTHER COMMENT.
THERE'S ALSO ALWAYS AN OPPORTUNITY WITH SIGNAGE TO, TO CHANGE A LANGUAGE INSTEAD OF WARNING SIGNAGE.
BUT IF IT'S A WELCOME SIGN, MAYBE IT SPEAKS MORE TO LIKE, SLOW DOWN SO YOU CAN BETTER VIEW THE WELCOME GATE GATEWAY TO PETALUMA OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO SOMETIMES PEOPLE LISTEN TO THAT MORE SO THAN, UH, WARNING SIGNS.
UM, JUST ONE OTHER QUICK QUESTION.
I KNOW RECENTLY WE WERE UP IN THE TRUCKEE INCLINE VILLAGE AREA AND THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF ARTWORK IN THEIR ROUNDABOUTS.
SO, UM, JUST TALKING TO OTHER CITIES, MAYBE THE ISSUES THEY RAN INTO ALREADY, MAYBE THEY'LL TELL YOU AND YOU CAN AVOID THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
LIKE, I KNOW OVER IN SONOMA, THEY'RE ALSO LOOKING AT, UH, THEIR BIG ROUNDABOUT THAT'S AT ARNOLD DRIVE AND ABA CALIENTE, AND THERE'S A HUGE COMMITTEE THAT'S, THERE'S LOOKING INTO THAT AS WELL OVER THERE.
SO, YOU KNOW, JUST TALKING ABOUT THE OTHER RESOURCES OF WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT.
I THINK WHAT IT IS IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER THE POSSIBLE COFIELD BRIDGE THAT'S GOING TO BE A BIG ADDITION THERE AND, AND THE NEW NEIGHBORHOODS THAT IT WILL CONNECT DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THERE.
AND THE RIVER ENHANCEMENT PLAN WHENEVER IT'S FINISHED, BECAUSE THAT NEW NEIGHBORHOOD HAS ITS PIECE AND THE RIVER PARK HAS ITS PIECE, AND EVENTUALLY THERE'LL BE THE PIECE CONNECTING TO SCHOENBERGER, AND THAT WHOLE SIDE OF THE RIVER WILL HAVE A, A TRAIL, BUT THEN THIS BRIDGE WILL BRING THOSE PEDESTRIANS ACROSS TOO.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE WHOLE CONNECTION OVER THE RIVER THERE AND THE, AND THE NEW NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE WALKING PATH WILL DO.
YEAH, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T REALLY JUST HAVE A SIGN, YOU KNOW, IT REALLY HAS TO BE A 3D FULLY ACCESSIBLE SCULPTURE.
MAKES IT EVEN MORE CHALLENGING AND MORE FUN AT THE SAME TIME.
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WE HAVE THIS, THAT REALLY COOL OPPORTUNITY OF IT BEING CIRCULAR AND SO THAT WE COULD SEE IT FROM, I MEAN, THAT'S, WE'RE, WE'RE RIGHT IN THERE WITH Y'ALL JUST BEING ABLE TO SEE IT FROM ALL DIRECTIONS, SO.DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? I THINK WE CAN MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT ITEM.
UM, THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH LENA, AND THANK TEAM.
AND YOU'RE WELCOME TO STAY OR IF YOU HAVE OTHER PLACES TO BE, I WOULD UNDERSTAND.
BUT AS A TEASER, OUR NEXT ITEM WILL BE A, UH, THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL ISSUANCE FOR LUCAS'S SKATE PARK.
THERE'S A, UH, AN ART PROJECT THAT WE'RE DOING OUT THERE, A LOT OF MURALS, SO YOU MAY LEARN SOMETHING.
UM, SO YEAH, I GUESS THIS, THIS, THANKS VERY MUCH.
THIS DOES BRING US TO MEETING NUMBER FOUR.
UM, I'M GOING TO INVITE PUBLIC ART SPECIALIST, MELISSA ABERCROMBIE, TO PRESENT THIS MEETING.
ITEM NUMBER, HOW DO WE GET TO, WE'RE AT FIVE ALREADY.
UM, I'M REALLY EXCITED FOR ALL THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATIONS AND TO GET TO THIS POINT WITH THE SKATE PROJECT, I WAS HOPING WE'D BE RELEASING THIS EARLY THIS YEAR, BUT, UM, I'M REALLY EXCITED THAT IT'S COMING FORWARD FOR NEXT YEAR, UM, WITH BEST EXPECTED COMPLETION NEXT THE SUMMER OF 2026.
SO WE'RE KIND OF FRONTLOADING THIS RFP, BUT IT, IT GIVES US SOME MOMENTUM AND IT'LL BE REALLY EXCITING.
SO THIS EVENING, IT IS THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THE CITY OF PETALUMA PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE RECEIVED THE STAFF PRESENTATION, AS WELL AS PUBLIC COMMENT AND CONDUCT A STUDY SESSION TO PROVIDE NON-BINDING COMMENTS ON THE DRAFT REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL LANGUAGE FOR THE LUCCHESE SKATE PARK MURAL PROJECT.
ADDITIONALLY, COMMITTEE MEMBERS ARE ASKED TO REVIEW THE CITY COUNCIL SKATE PARK PRESENTATION FROM JANUARY, 2025.
UM, WE'RE NOT GONNA GO THROUGH THAT WHOLE PRESENTATION BECAUSE I'VE RECEIVED CONFIRMATION THAT YOU GUYS HAVE REVIEWED IT, BUT IF THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO ACCESS IT, IT'S ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA ON THE CITY OF PETALUMA'S, UH, AGENDA PAGE FOR PUBLIC ART FOR THIS EVENING.
ALSO, WE WILL BE REBOOTING THE RFP OUTREACH FLYER.
I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO GET SOME DESIGN FEEDBACK FROM YOU ALL ABOUT THAT.
AND THIS WILL HELP GUIDE HOW I SHAPE THE RFP PROCESS, UM, MOVING FORWARD.
IN SUMMARY, THE CITY OF PETALUMA IS DEVELOPING THE LUCCHESE SKATE PARK PROJECT, A VISION OF A STATE OF AN ARC SKATE PARK THAT'S 23,000 SQUARE FEET IN LOU CASEY PARK, LOCATED IN THE PRO UNPROGRAMMED SPACE BETWEEN THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, THE BASEBALL FIELD, AND THE SOCCER FIELDS, AND THE TENNIS COURTS.
IT IS SUBJECT TO THE 1% PUBLIC ART ORDINANCE AND WILL BE COMPLETED.
THE 1% WILL BE SPENT ON SITE FOR ENHANCEMENTS TO THE SKATE, THE VERTICAL WALLS OF THE SKATE PARK.
DECEMBER 1ST, 2025, THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE WILL ISSUE A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL SEEKING SUBMISSIONS FROM ARTISTS OR ARTIST TEAMS FOR THE COMMISSION AND INSTALLATION OF A SITE SPECIFIC ORIGINAL MURAL FOR THE VERTICAL WALLS OF THE LUCCHESE SKATE PARK.
THIS IS APPROXIMATELY 330 SQUARE FEET OF VERTICAL SURFACE.
THE PROJECT'S BUDGET IS 13 TO $15,000 INCLUSIVES OF ALL COSTS.
NOW, THAT IS THE BUDGET TO ARTISTS.
RIGHT NOW, WE'RE WAITING, UM, FOR FEEDBACK FROM THE PARKS AND RECS DEPARTMENT AND PUBLIC WORKS ABOUT WHAT THEIR BIDS ARE COMING IN AT.
THE APPROXIMATE BID AMOUNT IS CLOSE TO $2.5 MILLION, AND SO OUR PORTION WILL BE CLOSE TO 25,000.
THIS WILL BE A TWO PHASE PROJECT.
SO IN THE FIRST PROJECT, THEY'LL BUILD OUT THE SKATE PARK AS PRESENTED IN THE PRESENTATION.
THE SECOND PHASE WOULD BE THE BATHROOM.
SO I WANTED TO CREATE A CUSHION FOR IF WE WERE TO CONTINUE A MURAL ON THE BATHROOM WALLS, THAT WE HAVE SOME MONEY ALLOCATED TOWARDS THAT.
AND BECAUSE THIS IS A 330 SQUARE FOOT MURAL, IT'S A PRETTY PROPORTIONATE VALUE, I BELIEVE AT $15,000.
I'LL HAVE TO DO THE NUMBERS, BUT I THINK IT'S 40 TO $50 PER SQUARE FOOT, WHICH IS A RATIONAL AMOUNT.
AND AS PRESENTED IN THE STAFF REPORT ATTACHMENT ONE, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE VERTICAL SURFACES ARE PRETTY DISJOINTED.
SOME OF THEM ARE 18 INCHES TALL.
SO IT'S GONNA REALLY REQUIRE AN, AN ARTIST OR ARTIST TEAM TO REALLY TAKE A COHESIVE APPROACH TO THE SITE.
THE PPAC WILL REVIEW COMPLETE RFQ QUAL RFQ APPLICATIONS.
SO THAT'S ACTUALLY SUPPOSED TO SAY RFP, I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, BUT I, I'LL TAKE AN INITIAL LOOK AT ALL THE RFPS AS THEY'RE
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PRESENTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY QUALIFY SO THAT EVERYTHING THAT'S REQUIRED HAS BEEN SUBMITTED IN THE RFP.AND THEN THOSE PRESENTATIONS WILL BE PROVIDED YOU AND YOU WILL HAVE A MONTH TO REVIEW THE PRESENTATIONS OR A LITTLE, AS SOON AS I RECEIVE THEM AND ORGANIZE THEM, THEY'LL BE AVAILABLE TO YOU.
AND WE WILL MAKE A DECISION ON THE ARTIST.
WE CAN SELECT OUR TOP THREE IN PRIORITY TIER, AND WE WILL HAVE OUR, UM, FEBRUARY MEETING AND DISCUSS WHO OUR PRIORITIES WERE AND HAVE A ROBUST DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW WE'D LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD BASED ON WHO WE'VE PRIORITIZED.
AND IF THERE'S COMMONALITIES IN THAT PROCESS, THIS ARTIST SELECTION COULD BE CONSIDERED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO.
WHILE THIS RFP IS FOR PHASE ONE, HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE A BETTER IDEA BY THE TIME THAT WE'VE SELECTED ARTISTS OR AT THAT FEBRUARY MEETING, HOW PHASE TWO WILL ROLL OUT AND WE CAN SELECT AN ARTIST AT THAT TIME FOR THAT OTHER PORTION.
BUT IT'S REALLY GONNA DEPEND ON HOW THE BIDDING COMES OUT AND HOW THAT'S PHASED.
AND THAT'S AN OPTION AVAILABLE TO YOU.
I THINK IT'S THE MOST FINANCIALLY EFFICIENT ONE, AND YOU CAN DECIDE IF YOU WANT SOMEBODY TO HAVE A MURAL THAT SPEAKS TO BOTH LOCATIONS OR IF YOU WANT TO HIRE TWO SEPARATE PEOPLE FOR BOTH SIDES OF IT.
BUT THAT'S, UH, THAT RFQ OR RFP PROCESS WILL ALLOW US A, A PRETTY ROBUST SELECTION.
AND IT'S GREAT IF WE END UP WITH TWO ARTISTS THAT WE REALLY LOVE THAT WE CAN SHARE, SHARE THE PROJECT.
SO THE CITY IS PARTNERING WITH GRIDLINE SKATE PARKS, A WORLD-CLASS SKATE PARK DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION COMPANY TO GE ENGAGE IN THE COMMUNITY AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE SKATE PARK DESIGN.
SO WE'RE ACTUALLY PAST THE DESIGN PHASE RIGHT NOW AND MOVING FORWARD WITH BIDS.
THEY HAVE IDENTIFIED STAKEHOLDERS AND NEIGHBORS AND THEY, THEY HAVE INCORPORATED THEIR IMPORT, THEIR INPUT AND INTO THE PROJECT DESIGN.
AND OUR DISCUSSION TODAY, UM, WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS THE LANGUAGE OF THE DRAFT ELIGIBILITY.
SO THAT'LL BE LIKE, DO WE WANT ANYBODY TO BE OPEN TO APPLY? DO WE WANNA PUT AN AGE AT 16? I RECOMMENDED 16.
BUT WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.
WE WANNA TALK ABOUT IF WE WANT AI TO BE USED IN THE SUBMISSION OF THE ARTWORK OR THE ARTWORK DESIGN.
THAT'S, I WANT US, IT'S THE FIRST TIME WE'VE REALLY BEEN IN A MOMENT WHERE THAT'S PARTICULARLY RELEVANT.
THERE'S A LOT OF AI SUBMISSION SOFTWARE TO DEVELOP SUBMISSIONS.
SO I WANNA TALK ABOUT IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO CONSIDER OR NOT.
UM, I ALSO WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS.
SO, UM, THE CITY WILL SCREEN APPLICATIONS, LIKE I'VE STATED.
YOU WILL REVIEW THE APPLICATIONS AND GIVE YOUR THREE SUBMISSIONS.
I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S A PROCESS THAT FEELS RIGHT TO YOU IF YOU WANNA DO THE TOP FIVE.
UM, AND THEN WE WILL, UM, TALK ABOUT THE DESIGN DEVELOPMENT PHASE.
WHILE THE ARTISTS WILL CREATE THE PROPOSAL, IT PROBABLY WON'T BE FULLY DESIGNED.
THEY'LL GIVE AN IDEA AND SOME ROUGH, OR MAYBE NOT ROUGH, MAYBE VERY POLISHED DESIGN.
BUT WITHIN THIS PROCESS, EVERYBODY AND STAFF IS KIND OF ASKED THAT WE AT LEAST HAVE ONE COMMUNITY OUTREACH MEETING WITH THE ARTIST AND THE COMMUNITY TO KIND OF HEAR FEEDBACK AND MAKE SURE THAT IT REFLECTS WHAT THE COMMUNITY'S VOICE IS ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
WE'VE HAD SO MUCH INTEREST FROM SKATEBOARDERS FROM THE PHOENIX ACROSS THE BOARD, AND THEY HAVE SUCH IDENTIFIED STAKEHOLDERS THAT I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY GREAT AND I COULD HELP SUPPORT A SURVEY IF WE WANTED TO HAVE THAT ALSO THROUGH THE CITY'S WEBSITE.
UM, SO THERE'S MANY ELEMENTS THAT WILL NEED TO BE INVOLVED IN THE RFP.
UM, AND SO THAT WILL BE TO HAVE A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT THAT THEY, WE CREATE BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE ARTIST.
SO THEY'LL HAVE TO MEET THE PARAMETERS OF THAT.
IF IT'S AN UNEXPERIENCED ARTIST, WE CAN HELP WALK THEM THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
UM, THEY NEED TO HAVE AN ANTICIPATED BUDGET PREPARATION AS PART OF THE RFP PROCESS.
THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT APPROVED BUILDING PERMITS.
IF, WHY I INCLUDED THIS LANGUAGE IN THE STAFF REPORT IS WHAT IF SOMEBODY COMES TO US AND THEY WANNA DO A MURAL THAT'S MADE OUT OF TILE OR OTHER MATERIALS.
WE MAY WANNA REVIEW HOW THAT'S LAID OUT, HOW THEY PLAN ON HAVING IT ADHERE TO THE WALL.
SO IT MAY REQUIRE A DIFFERENT DESIGN.
IF YOU GUYS WANNA STICK WITH PAINTING, THAT'S FINE.
WE CAN DEFINE THOSE PARAMETERS, BUT I, I FIGURED I'D KEEP IT OPEN TO OTHER TYPES OF TREATMENTS PEOPLE MIGHT WANNA DO THERE.
UM, AN EXAMPLE OF THIS IS THE LYNCH CREEK TRAIL, HOW JOHNNY DID THE ADHERING OF FABRICS.
I PROBABLY WOULDN'T RECOMMEND IT FOR THIS SITE BECAUSE I THINK THAT WE'LL HAVE MORE WEATHERING, YOU KNOW, IT'S MORE EXPOSED SINCE JOHNNY'S PIECES THAT HE DID THAT WERE UNDER AN OVERPASS.
UM, BUT I DID WANNA KEEP IT OPEN IF, IF SOMEBODY WHO DOES TILE INSTALLATION OR MOSAIC, THAT THAT'S AN OPTION.
AND YOU GUYS CAN DISCUSS THAT.
UM, WE ALSO WOULD LIKE THEM TO HAVE AN IDEA OF THE SITE PREPARATION NEEDED SINCE IT'S RECENTLY COMPLETED.
THERE'S PROBABLY GONNA BE VERY
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LIMITED SITE PREP, MAYBE A PRIMER IF THEY'RE DOING A MURAL.BUT I WANNA HAVE THAT LAID OUT IN THE RFP.
UM, THE INSTALLATION OF THE ARTWORK IS SUBJECT TO THE CITY OF PETALUMA, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS BIDDING REQUIREMENT.
SO THEY'LL JUST PAY THEMSELVES A PREVAILING WAGE.
WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHOEVER'S DOING IT IS NOT HAVING HELP.
THAT'S NOT BEING PAID UNLESS THEY'RE PART OF THE TEAM THAT'S SUBMITTING.
UM, THEY ALSO NEED TO HAVE DOCUMENTED IMAGES OF WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE AND MEDIA INFORMATION.
WE'RE NOT REQUIRING IT, BUT IF THEY HAVE A WEBSITE, THEY CAN INCLUDE IT.
IF THEY HAVE A PORTFOLIO THAT THEY'D LIKE TO INCLUDE, THEY CAN DO THAT.
I, WE, WE HAD DIRECTION FROM STAFF AND STAKEHOLDERS THAT THEY WANTED THIS TO BE A VERY ACCESSIBLE RFP.
AND WE HAVEN'T REALLY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY FOR YOUNG ARTISTS UNDER AGE 18 TO SUBMIT FOR AN ARTWORK BEFORE.
ARTISTS WILL ALSO NEED TO PARTICIPATE IN RIBBON CUTTING AND PRESS OUTREACH IF REQUESTED.
AND THEY WILL HAVE TO WORK WITH CITY STAFF AND THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.
THERE'S NO ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW INVOLVED.
UM, AND AS OUTLINED IN THE, UM, CITYWIDE GOALS PRIORITIES SECTION OF THE STAFF REPORT, THIS MEETS MANY OF OUR PRIORITIES, WHICH INCLUDE MAXIMIZING THE USE OF CURRENT PARKS AND RECREATION INFRASTRUCTURE TO REALLY ATTRACT VISITORS TO PETALUMA, TO EXPLORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR MORE MURALS AND INSTALLATIONS CITYWIDE TO CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN AND UPDATE CITY FACILITIES THAT PROVIDE PLACES AND SPACES OR COMMUNITY DIALOGUE FOR PUBLIC MEETINGS.
AND, UH, CUSTOMER SERVICE, WHICH WILL BE SKATEBOARDERS ENJOYING THE SKATE PARK.
WE ALSO WOULD LIKE THEM, OR WE ALSO SEE THE GOAL OF DEVELOPING A PLAN TO PRIORITIZE PLAYGROUND UPGRADES AND REPLACEMENT AND SO, AND HAVE ACCESSIBILITY IMPROVEMENTS.
SO THIS SKATE PARK WILL HAVE SECTIONS THAT ARE FOR ALL TYPES OF USERS, AND THAT'S BEEN CONSIDERED.
SO THIS ARTWORK CAN SPEAK TO ANYONE.
UM, YOU HAVE INCLUDED IN THE STAFF REPORT THE DRAFT REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL LANGUAGE.
UM, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU GUYS HAVE ALL HAD A CHANCE TO READ THAT.
BUT WE'LL LOOK AT THAT AND WE CAN GO THROUGH IT TOGETHER AND YOU GUYS CAN TELL ME WHAT YOUR FEEDBACK IS.
YOU CAN ALSO EMAIL ME IF YOU'VE PROVIDED EDITS IN THE DOCUMENT, YOU'RE WELCOME TO EMAIL ME THAT AS WELL.
THAT'LL BE REALLY HELPFUL FOR HOW I SHAPE IT.
UM, AND THEN WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION AVAILABLE, SO IF WE WANNA PULL UP SLIDES FROM THAT PRESENTATION TO LOOK AT, UM, I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT.
AND THEN THE THIRD ATTACHMENT IS THE RFP OUTREACH FLYER, WHICH I'VE JUST PRELIMINARY CREATED.
I ASKED FOR PERMISSION FROM RICKY WATTS TO USE SOME OF HIS ARTWORK IN IT BECAUSE IT REALLY INFORMS A LOT OF THE SKATE CULTURE AND EXISTING MURALS HERE.
I THOUGHT IT WAS LIKE A VIBRANT WAY TO ATTRACT PEOPLE TO THE FLYER, THE FLYER OUTREACH.
UM, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT, I'D REALLY, AND THROUGH THE RFP I'D CONVERSATION, I'D REALLY LIKE TO HEAR WHO YOU THINK ARE IDENTIFIED AS PEOPLE OR GROUPS OR ENTITIES WE SHOULD BE PRESENTING THE FLYER TO.
UH, I LOOK IN THIS RFP PROCESS AS ALL OF YOU AS ARMS OF THE CITY AND HELPING GET THE WORD OUT.
SO I, I APPRECIATE LIKE BRIE COULD SEND IT OUT TO HER, UH, OPPORTUNITIES THROUGH PARENT SQUARED OR WHATEVER YOU HAVE ACCESS TO.
I SEE KATE USING HER, HER BUSINESS AS A WAY TO DO OUTREACH.
AND THIS ISN'T LIMITED SO FAR TO PETALUMA SPECIFIC ARTIST.
WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT.
AND THEN THE FINAL ATTACHMENT IS THE PUBLIC COMMENT BY JASON BARNETT, UM, WHICH YOU ALL HAVE ACCESS TO, AND IT'S AVAILABLE ON THE CITY WEBSITE.
SO WITH THAT, WE'LL GO INTO THE RFP.
I WILL SHARE MY SCREEN SO EVERYBODY CAN SEE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
I AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING WHAT YOU ALL HAVE TO SAY.
SO THE, THERE'S AN INTRODUCTION OPENING, TALKING ABOUT THE 1% FEE AND WHY IT APPLIES TO THIS PROJECT.
AND IT ALSO LINKS TO THE MASTER PLAN, SO ARTISTS CAN GO AND LOOK AT THE MASTER PLAN FOR GUIDANCE.
THE GOALS OF THE RFP ARE REALLY ALSO UP FOR DISCUSSION.
THIS WAS LIKE WHAT I TOOK FROM OUR PREVIOUS RFPS AND RQS.
I FELT A LOT OF THE LANGUAGE SPOKE TO WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY, BUT I WANTED TO GIVE YOU GUYS THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW IT AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO OUR GOALS WITH THIS PROJECT OR ANYTHING YOU THINK ISN'T REALLY SUITABLE FOR THIS LOCATION.
MELISSA, ONE QUESTION OR COMMENT.
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SAID THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF STAKEHOLDERS WHO ARE REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS PROJECT.AND SO WHEN I'M LOOKING AT A TIMELINE OF RFP, AND THEN WE HAVE THE COMMUNITY MEETING, UM, AND AS WE EXPERIENCED WITH ASH TONIGHT, WHEN YOU HAVE AN ARTIST BRING A DESIGN, I PERSONALLY DON'T WANNA THEN COME BACK AND SAY, OH, IT'S BEAUTIFUL, BUT, AND SO I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY SOONER, GIVE SOME OF THEIR VISION AND FEEDBACK FOR THE ARTISTS BEFORE THEY SUBMIT AN RFP.
JUST, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GONNA FEEL DISINGENUOUS AT THE END TO ENGAGE THEM AFTER DESIGN HAS ALREADY BEEN DRAFTED.
WELL, THE INTENTION OF THE RFP IS THAT THEY WOULD GIVE A PRELIMINARY DESIGN AND THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THAT PUBLIC OUTREACH IS THE NEXT WAVE, AND THEN THEY'LL GIVE A FINAL DESIGN.
I, AT THIS MOMENT, IT'S REALLY HARD TO, TO DO IT ANY OTHER WAY.
UM, I VIEW IT LIKE WE HAD THIS WITH THE SKI, WITH THE, UM, LUC CASEY MURAL WHERE THE ARTIST KIND OF HAD AN IDEA, BUT THEY MET WITH STAKEHOLDERS AND HEARD A LOT THAT INFORMED THEM.
THIS LOCATION IS REALLY TRICKY BECAUSE IT IS SO DISJOINTED THAT I THINK, I THINK OUR PUBLIC COMMENT AND FEEDBACK IS GONNA HELP THE ARTIST, YOU KNOW, KIND OF SHAPE ANY DETAILS, COLOR PALETTE, THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, BUT THE, THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT REALLY WANTED THIS AND REALLY HEARD IT FROM THEIR STAKEHOLDERS.
SO I THINK EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS, LIKE WE CAN INCLUDE IN THE RFP, THAT THIS IS A PROPOSED DESIGN.
IT WILL ADDITIONALLY BE INFORMED BY THE PUBLIC, THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS.
THEY HAVE ONE OPPORTUNITY AND THEY CAN ALSO HAVE THE SURVEY.
SO IF THERE'S SOMETHING IN A SURVEY THAT THEY REALLY WANNA CAPTURE THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO THEM.
I'VE BEEN DOING THESE SURVEYS RECENTLY FOR OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND THEY'RE REALLY EASY TO DO THROUGH THE CITY'S WEBPAGE.
AND ACTUALLY, WE'RE GONNA RUN OUR RFP PROCESS THROUGH THE CITY'S WEBPAGE.
SO I'VE BEEN CREATING A FORM, SO IT'LL BE DIRECTLY, IT'LL BE ON A PAGE AND DIRECTLY ACCESSIBLE THROUGH THE, BOTH THE SKATE PARKS PAGE, THROUGH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, AND THEN THROUGH OUR PUBLIC ART PAGE.
SO IT'LL BE REALLY ACCESSIBLE.
AND UM, WE, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE GONNA TAILOR WHAT WE WANT IN IT, IN THIS CONVERSATION.
AND I CAN INCLUDE ANY TYPE OF COMMENT OR QUESTION IN IT.
WE CAN ALSO HAVE MULTIPLE CHOICE, AND THE SAME THING CAN HAPPEN WITH THE PUBLIC PROCESS.
SO IT'S A REALLY EASY WAY NOW TO ATTAIN INFORMATION WHERE IN THE PAST WE WOULD HAVE TO DO A SURVEYMONKEY AND ALL THAT.
I CAN DOWNLOAD IT TO AN EXCEL SPREADSHEET AND SHARE IT WITH YOU ALL AND THE ARTIST.
SO IT'S REALLY WONDERFUL THAT WE NOW HAVE THIS MORE STREAMLINED OPPORTUNITY.
UM, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, MELISSA.
UM, THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.
IT'S, UM, VERY COMPREHENSIVE AND THERE'S, IT'S ALSO VERY OPEN-ENDED.
SO MANY POSSIBLE WAYS TO GO WITH THIS.
IT'S ALMOST A LITTLE CONFUSING, BUT, UM, AND I, I'M SURE IT'S IN HERE.
DOES THIS ADDRESS MAINTENANCE AND GRAFFITI? YES.
WILL AM I MISSING? YES, WE WILL HAVE TO HAVE A GRAFFITI COATING ON IT.
IF IT IS A MURAL, THAT'S A DEFINITE NEED.
BUT EVEN ASIDE FROM CODING, AS YOU KNOW, GRAFFITI IS IN, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
IT'S, UM, YEAH, WE, WELL, THAT'S WHY THE BUDGET'S AT 13,000.
SO WE CAN MAINTAIN A CUSHION FOR MAINTENANCE.
BUT IT WON'T BE THE ARTIST'S RESPONSIBILITY.
WE'LL HAVE TO DESIGN A MAINTENANCE PLAN FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME WITH THE ARTIST.
BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT.
'CAUSE I DO THINK THAT SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, VERY, UM, CLEAR UPFRONT WITH, WITH THIS RFP.
IT'S DEFINITELY, WELL, I'LL LET KATE SPEAK TO IT SINCE SHE'S ON THE PARKS COMMITTEE.
AND JUST TO INTERJECT A LITTLE BIT, UM, ONE OF THE, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, DURING OUR STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS AND THE PRESENTATION WITH, UM, THE, WHAT'S THE DESIGNER'S NAME AGAIN? GRIDLINE.
GRIDLINE IS THAT, UM, THE SKATE COMMUNITY HAD VERY STRONG FEELINGS AGAINST GRAFFITI BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY AFFECTS THE QUALITY OF SKATING.
AND THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF OWNERSHIP AND STEWARDSHIP OVER SPACES.
AND THAT WAS KIND OF THE TREND OF THE LAST DECADE OR SO WAS, UM, OR EVEN MAYBE MORE TIME WAS THAT, UM, THE SKATERS AND THE SKATE COMMUNITY TAKING CARE OF THE SPACE THEMSELVES AND NOT, YOU KNOW, STRONGLY DISCOURAGING GRAFFITI AND PREVENTING IT FROM HAPPENING.
SO, UM, I WOULD BE POSITIVELY OPTIMISTIC THAT THIS LOCATION WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE A LOT OF PROTECTION
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FROM THE USERS OF THE SITE RATHER THAN HAVING IT MORE AT RISK.I WOULD, I WOULD HOPE THAT WAS THE IMPRESSION THAT WE GOT DURING OUR PRESENTATIONS.
AND I COULD SEE WHERE THE SKATE COMMUNITY MIGHT WANNA PROTECT IT.
BUT THE REST OF THE, THAT'S TRUE.
YOUTH VANDALS THAT HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW IT AT JOHNNY HIRSCH'S ART FOR INSTANCE, UP IN, YOU KNOW, VERY RECENTLY ARE STILL AT WORK.
AND THERE ARE ALWAYS GONNA BE PEOPLE WHO WANNA DEFACE SOMETHING OF BEAUTY JUST BECAUSE IT'S IN THEIR NATURE.
AND I WOULD THINK THAT THAT'S GREAT THAT THE SKATE COMMUNITY WANTS TO PRESERVE THAT.
SO WE'D BE LOOKING FOR THEM TO BE RELIABLE STEWARDS.
BUT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE UNDER THE DARKNESS OF NIGHT ARE GONNA DO WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO.
SO I WILL SAY ONE OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THIS PARK LOCATION IS THAT IT'S IN A VERY VISIBLE AREA.
LIKE IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THE SOCCER COURTS.
THE BASEBALL COURTS THAT ARE REALLY ACTIVE, LIKE SOCCER IS VERY ACTIVE AT NIGHT, ALMOST EVERY NIGHT OF THE WEEK THAT IT'S NOT RAINING.
SO THAT'S A DIFFERENT FEATURE WHERE WE HAVE LIKE LYNCH CREEK TRAILS A LITTLE MORE HIDDEN AND OFF THE WAYSIDE.
I MEAN, WHERE WE HAVE PEOPLE DO VANDALISM SO FAR HAS BEEN LIKE THE ALLEY AND THE SKATE PARK THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, WHERE PEOPLE AREN'T NECESSARILY THERE AT NIGHT.
IT'S, I'M, OUR BEST HOPES ARE THAT IT DOESN'T GET VANDALIZED.
BUT AT THIS PART OF THE PROCESS, WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO FOCUS ON THE ART, SEE IF WE CAN REALLY FIGURE OUT THE STRONGEST GRAFFITI DETERRENT WE CAN.
THERE'S GONNA BE A ZERO TOLERANCE FOR ANY PAINT ON THE ACTUAL SURFACES OF THE SKATE PARK.
IT'S, IT'S REALLY LIKE THERE'S NO PAINT ANYWHERE ELSE.
THERE'S A VERY STRONG DESIRE TO KEEP THIS CLEAN.
WE HAVE THE OTHER SKATE PARK THAT'S KIND OF GOT THAT VIBE.
THIS IS GONNA BE LIKE A, A REALLY SUCCESSFUL SKATE PARK AND THE SURFACES ARE REALLY GONNA BE A PRIORITY FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BE MORE CHALLENGED SKATERS IN A SKATE PARK.
AND THEN I HAD ANOTHER COMMENT ABOUT, UM, SINCE WE'RE GONNA, IF, IF WE OPEN THIS UP TO PEOPLE WHO AREN'T NECESSARILY PROFESSIONALS OR HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE, IF ANY PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE THAT WE REALLY BUILD IN, UM, WHEN WE PUT TOGETHER THE TIMELINE OR WHATNOT, THERE NEEDS TO BE DELIVERABLES THAT ARE, UM, VERY, UM, WELL MONITORED.
THAT PER PERHAPS PAYMENT IS CONTINGENT UPON MEETING THESE DELIVERABLES.
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GIVE A 16-YEAR-OLD A YEAR TO DO 25 MINI MURALS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A POINT WHERE SCHOOL AND ACTIVITY AND INTEREST MAY INTERFERE.
SO WE HAVE TO KEEP THEM GOING.
UM, I JUST WANNA BE SENSITIVE TO WHOM, IF WE HIRE PEOPLE THAT AREN'T USED TO WORKING PROFESSIONALLY, THAT WE REALLY STAY ON TOP OF THEIR GOAL SETTING.
I MEAN, THAT'S GONNA BE PART OF OUR PROCESS, IS THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE A PROFESSIONAL ELEMENT TO IT.
OUR QUESTIONS ARE GONNA RE RELY ON THEM HAVING A ARTIST STATEMENT, LIKE THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO PROVIDE A TIMELINE OR A BUDGET, WHICH I THINK WILL, WILL REALLY HELP PEOPLE BECOME MORE PROFESSIONAL.
I VIEW THIS AS LIKE A REALLY GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEONE TO HONE THEIR SKILLS.
IT IS NOT A LARGE SPACE, SO IT'S KIND OF A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEBODY TO BE CONSTRUCTIVE WITH HOW THEY APPROACH IT.
BUT IT IS, I, I DO REQUIRE I OR I FEEL IF WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT REQUIRED THAT THEY CAN INCLUDE A WEBSITE, THEY CAN INRE INCLUDE REFERENCES.
I THINK WE SHOULD MAKE REFERENCES BE MANDATORY OF ALL THE PRO OF ALL THE SUBMISSIONS.
AND I HAD PUT TWO REFERENCES TO DATE.
I FELT LIKE THAT TWO REFERENCES IS A FAIR AMOUNT.
AND IT COULD BE SOMEBODY WHO MAYBE DOESN'T HAVE JUST ARTISTIC INTERACTIONS WITH THEM, BUT LIKE AN EMPLOYER OR SOMEBODY, THEY BABYSIT FOR SOMEBODY OUTSIDE OF THEIR HOUSEHOLD, UM, AS A RECOMMENDATION.
BUT I THINK WE CAN HAVE THINGS BUILT IN.
AND I ALSO THINK WHEN WE ARE CHOOSING, IF WE INVITE OUR TOP SUBMISSIONS TO ATTEND THAT MEETING, IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE HERE PRESENT, IT MIGHT GIVE US A BETTER OPPORTUNITY TO GET A SENSE OF THEM WHEN THEY SUBMIT, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THEIR CONTACT INFORMATION.
AND SO WHEN I PROVIDE YOU EVERYTHING, YOU'RE WELCOME TO CHECK WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS.
I WOULD ABSOLUTELY SUGGEST THAT YOU CONTACT THEIR, THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS AND ASK THEM QUESTIONS THROUGH THEIR EMAIL IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OF THE PROJECT, IF THAT HELPS YOU GET A BETTER SENSE OF THINGS THAT WOULD BE PART OF THIS.
WHEN WE'VE HAD RFPS IN THE PAST, I'VE CALLED PEOPLE'S REFERENCES.
I THINK IT'S WHY WE ASK FOR THEM SO THAT WE CAN GET A SENSE OF IF THEY CAN HANDLE IT.
I MEAN, I, IT'S INTERESTING 'CAUSE IN OTHER RFP CONVERSATIONS WE HAD SIMILAR CONCERNS AND ALMOST ALWAYS LIKE SOMETHING JUST SHOWN THROUGH, LIKE USUALLY MORE
AND I THINK AGE SHOULDN'T DISCRIMINATE THAT.
BUT I REALLY WANNA HEAR FROM YOU GUYS
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WHAT YOU THINK IS AN APPROPRIATE AGE AND IF YOU THINK THERE SHOULD BE ADDITIONAL CRITERIA THAT WE SHOULD BE REVIEWING AS PART OF THIS.UM, I THINK IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY IF WE ARE THINKING ABOUT OPENING UP TO YOUNGER AGES, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OLDER ARTISTS TO MENTOR SOME OF THOSE YOUNGER, UH, PEOPLE THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, SUPPLYING, UH, PROPOSALS.
SO, UH, AS A GROUP WE COULD HELP TO KIND OF STEWARD THAT AND SAY, HEY, WE HAVE, UH, MAYBE THERE'S OLDER, OLDER ARTISTS THAT ARE GONNA SUBMIT AND ASKING THOSE OLDER ARTISTS TO, ARE THEY WILLING TO MENTOR THESE YOUTH TO KIND OF HELP THEM, OR EVEN PEOPLE IN THE COUNCIL OR YOU KNOW, LIKE, UH, MENTORING THEM A LITTLE BIT IN THE PROCESS, UH, IN TERMS OF JUST, YOU KNOW, WORKING ON THEIR TIME AND THEIR BUDGET AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
AND KIND OF SHOW THAT PROFESSIONALISM THROUGH THE COMMUNITY.
SO IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY THERE, I THINK.
YEAH, I THINK IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.
AND ALSO WE HAVE IT OPEN TO ARTISTS AND TEAMS. SO MY IDEA IN THAT WAS THAT IF THEY DID WANNA MENTOR, IF THEY DID WANNA WORK WITH FRIENDS, THAT WE COULD HAVE THAT THE RFP PROCESS WILL HAVE LIKE A PRIMARY PERSON THAT APPLIES AND THEN ROOM FOR ALL THE CONTACT INFORMATION FOR ANYBODY THAT MIGHT BE PART OF THAT TEAM.
I THINK THAT COULD BE A GOOD SETUP.
WE COULD ALSO HAVE, UH, LIKE TRY TO GENERATE SOME LOCAL ARTISTS IF THEY WERE INTERESTED IN MENTORING.
WE CAN PROVIDE A LIST TO, IF WE DO SELECT A YOUNGER ONE, WE CAN PROVIDE A MENTOR LIST IF PEOPLE ARE OPEN TO THAT.
YEAH, I THINK THAT'S, A MENTOR IS A A GREAT IDEA IF WE GET A YOUNG, INEXPERIENCED PERSON.
AND OF COURSE THERE COULD BE, YOU KNOW, I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING YOUNGER PEOPLE APPLY FOR THIS BECAUSE IT IS SUCH A GREAT OPPORTUNITY AND IT IS A MANAGEABLE SPACE.
UM, THE ART CENTER COULD BE A REALLY GOOD RESOURCE FOR MENTORS.
THAT'S A GREAT RECOMMENDATION.
AND I'M WONDERING IF THE STIPULATIONS CAN JUST BE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.
IF WE FIND SOMEONE WHO WE THINK IS REALLY, WOULD BE GREAT FOR THIS, BUT THEY NEED, ARE GOING TO NEED SOME EXTRA HELP, COULD WE REQUIRE THAT IN THAT JUST DO IT BASED ON WHO WE FIND AND WHAT THEIR SITUATION IS, WHAT WE THINK THEY'LL NEED TO SUPPORT THEM? YES.
I, I THINK THAT WE CAN DEFINITELY, IF WE SEE SOMETHING THAT WE ARE ALL LIKE, WELL, NOT ME, BUT YOU ARE ALL IN AGREEMENT WITH AND YOU THINK IT'S REALLY SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE CULTIVATED, I ABSOLUTELY BELIEVE WE CAN PUT THEM IN TOUCH WITH PEOPLE OR WE CAN DO THE HANDHOLDING.
LIKE I ALWAYS EXPECTED IN THIS RFP THAT THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF QUESTIONS FOR PEOPLE, UM, ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S YOUNG APPLICANTS.
BUT I'M GOING TO BE VERY CLEAR IN IT THAT YOU HAVE TO FILL IT OUT TO THE STANDARDS.
YOU KNOW, THAT IT HAS TO BE FILLED OUT ALL THE WAY FOR ANYTHING THAT'S REQUIRED AND THAT WE WILL BE SCREENING THAT.
SO I'M GONNA BE VERY CLEAR IN IT THAT LIKE, THOSE THAT AREN'T COMPLETE WON'T BE JUST LIKE ANY OTHER KIND OF PROFESSIONAL APPLICATION.
YOU WILL BE SCREENED OUT IF YOU CAN'T FILL IT OUT.
SO PLEASE ASK FOR SUPPORT IF YOU NEED IT.
AND I THINK THIS KIND OF BRINGS UP THE WHOLE AI YEAH.
DO WE SUPPORT THE USE OF AI AND FILLING OUT THE APPLICATION, FILLING OUT THE QUESTIONS, MAKING THE ART, MAKING THE, YOU KNOW, THE MOCKUPS, LIKE THERE'S, THERE'S SO MANY POTENTIAL WAYS TO USE AI AND I THINK AS ARTISTS WE ALL USE IT TO ONE DEGREE OR ANOTHER.
YOU KNOW, SOME OF US DO, AND I DO IN MY WORK.
UM, AND EVEN IN PULLING TOGETHER DOCUMENTS.
SO IT'S A REALLY INTERESTING QUESTION.
UM, I HADN'T EVEN THOUGHT OF THAT BEFORE AND I'M GONNA HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT BEFORE I RESPOND.
AND I'M JUST WONDERING IF IF THERE IS, I MEAN, I SEE LIKE ON YOUR PROPOSED FLYER ARROWS OF LIKE THESE KIND OF AREAS, IT'S JUST HARD TO VISUALIZE.
AND I, AND I RECOGNIZE THAT IT'S NOT A
BUT, UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW, WHAT THE ANSWER IS, BUT I DO WANNA JUST POINT OUT THAT IT IS KIND OF HARD TO WRAP YOUR HEAD AROUND.
THE, SO THE IMAGE THAT'S THE IMAGE THAT'S PROVIDED WITH THE PINK HIGHLIGHTED AREAS WITH THE MEASUREMENTS IS REALLY THEIR BEST LOOK AT THINGS.
I COULD ASK THEM TO PROVIDE A LARGER
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DOCUMENT LIKE THAT CAN BE PRINTED OUT, BUT IT'S GONNA REQUIRE THAT SOMEBODY BE ABLE TO DO THAT.'CAUSE IF THEY CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO DESIGN FOR THAT, THEY PROBABLY CAN'T PRODUCE IT IN A COHESIVE WAY.
DOES GRIDLINE HAVE SOME EXAMPLES OF OTHER PROJECTS THAT, UM, VERTICAL ARTWORK HAS BEEN ADDED TO THAT COULD BE PRESENTED? NOT AS LIKE, YOU KNOW, JUST TO GIVE A BETTER YEAH.
I MEAN AT A LOT OF SKATE PARKS YOU SEE MURALS ON THE SIDE OF THE RAMP.
SO I THINK IT'S NOT AN UNFAMILIAR THING TO SEE.
I CAN ASK GRID LINE OR I CAN PULL SOME UP THAT SHOW EXAMPLES OF ARTWORK ON THE VERTICAL WALLS OF A SKATE PARK.
I DEFINITELY, UM, I'M NOT SURE THAT WE CAN GET A MUCH CLEARER IMAGE.
AND I DO EXPECT THAT LIKE FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROCESS, I REALLY WANNA NOT JUST HAVE IT ON PROUD CITY, I'LL ALSO HAVE A PHYSICAL ABILITY FOR SOMEBODY TO FILL IT OUT OR IF THEY NEED SUPPORT, FILLING IT OUT THAT THAT'S AN OPTION HERE AT CITY HALL.
'CAUSE I THINK ACCESSIBILITY IS ANOTHER THING THAT WE REALLY NEED TO CONSIDER.
AND WE'VE WORKED HARD AS A CITY TO BE MORE ACCESSIBLE.
AS YOU CAN SEE SINCE THE LAST TIME WE ALL MET, IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT IN HERE.
WE'RE REALLY WORKING ON MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S A DA ABILITY FOR PEOPLE TO ATTEND MEETINGS, LANGUAGE BARRIERS.
SO I'D LIKE TO HAVE THIS IN SPANISH AS WELL.
WE USE A PROGRAM CALLED DEEP L, UM, TO DO SOME TRANSLATION SERVICES.
BUT I WILL DEFINITELY MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S AVAILABLE.
I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS A PROCESS THAT EVERYBODY HAS ACCESS TO.
BUT THE VISUAL PART, I DID LOOK REVIEW IT AND IT, I THOUGHT THE TWO IMAGES SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE.
AND BOTH OF THOSE WILL BE AVAILABLE IN THE RFP.
THERE'LL BE A PACKET AND IT'LL ALSO BE AVAIL BE AVAILABLE ON THE WEBSITE, AN EXPLANATION.
AND THIS IS WHERE, UM, A MENTOR COULD BE HELPFUL, SOMEONE WHO CAN READ PLANS, UM, AND DIRECT PEOPLE TO, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO TRI AND YELL IT A LITTLE BIT IN YOUR HEAD.
BUT I WOULD THINK THAT, UM, GRIDLINE COULD GIVE, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE THIS MODEL, THEY HAVE A 3D MODEL IN THEIR CAD PROGRAM OR WHATEVER THEY'RE USING.
THEY COULD PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, ZOOM IN ON PARTICULAR PLACES JUST TO SHOW THE AREA WHERE PAINT THAT'S, THAT'S A PAINTED SURFACE.
THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO VIEWS THAT ARE JUST, OKAY, WE'VE GOT THESE, HOWEVER MANY DIFFERENT ONES THERE ARE.
THEY CAN ROTATE THE CAMERA AND DO STRAIGHT ON FOR MOST OF THE VIEWS JUST WITHIN THE, THE PROGRAMMING.
SO I'LL CHECK IN WITH THEM FIRST THING TOMORROW TO GET THAT.
THEY MAY NOT WANT TO DO IT, BUT IT'S POSSIBLE.
AND WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL TAKE ALL THIS FEEDBACK FROM YOU GUYS, FINISH IT OUT, AND THEN I'LL SEND IT ALL TO YOU TO REPLY ANY ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK AFTER I'VE ESCAPE SHAPED IT TO YOUR COMMENTS.
I CAN SPEAK TO THE OR OR AT LEAST COMMENT ON THE AI QUESTION.
AND, UM, IT'S A TIME FOR YEAH, RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, IT'S A, IT'S A TIME WE'RE DEALING WITH IT.
LIKE YOU SAID, UM, I WROTE, UM, WROTE UP, UH, PROTECTIONS AND, AND SOME PROCESSES FOR, FOR THE BURNING MAN ORGANIZATION.
'CAUSE WE WERE HAVING SUBMISSIONS, WORLDWIDE SUBMISSIONS FOR CERTAIN THINGS.
AND, AND THE, UH, THE LINE THAT I DREW WAS, UM, WAS THAT IF IT IS, IF THE ART IS GOING TO BE PRESENTED AND THAT IS THE FINAL PIECE OF ART WE REQUIRE THAT IT NOT BE AI, RIGHT? SO THAT IF THAT FINAL PIECE OF ART, BUT IF IT WAS A SUGGESTION OR A PROPOSAL AND THE, THE PERSON WHO WAS SUBMITTING FOR THE GRANT OR SUBMITTING FOR THE ART, UH, WAS, UH, HAD HISTORY OF, OF PRODUCING ART MURALS, PHYSICAL ART SCULPTURE, UH, THAT THEY HAD IN A PORTFOLIO.
AND THE PROPOSAL WAS AI FOR, YOU KNOW, TO, TO SHOW REALITY OR THREE DIMENSIONALITY OR WHATEVER IT WAS.
UM, AND THEY HAD A, THEY HAD A, A HISTORY OF PRODUCING ART AND QUALITY ART, THEN WE WOULD ACCEPT IT.
AND SO THERE WAS A, IT WAS A CASE BY CASE BASIS, BUT THE FINAL ART COULD NOT BE RENDERED AI R AND THAT WAS KIND OF WHERE WE DREW THE LINE, YOU KNOW, AND, AND ON THE LANGUAGE SIDE OF THINGS, IT'S A LITTLE HARDER TO TO MANAGE THAT OBVIOUSLY.
UM, AND IT'S GONNA GET HARDER AND HARDER TO MANAGE IT ON THE VISUALS.
BUT THAT WAS KIND OF LIKE, HEY, WE WOULD REQUIRE THIS TO BE, UH, THE ART THAT YOU WERE PRODUCING TO BE DONE BY YOU.
SO THAT'S KINDA WHERE WE, WE DREW THE LINE, BUT IT'S OPEN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST WHAT WE DO.
I, I THINK THAT AGAIN, IF WE DO WANT TO GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT SO EXPERIENCED HAVE LESS EXPERIENCE AT TRYING TO TRANSLATE THEIR IDEAS INTO SOMETHING, YOU COULD SEE I, I ALWAYS USE IT LIKE EVEN WITH THE ORIGINAL DESIGNS FOR THE FAIRGROUNDS SKATE.
SO IT GIVES ME SOMETHING TO START WITH.
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SO IT'S AGAIN, CASE BY CASE.IF IT'S SOMEONE WHO HAS NO EXPERIENCE AND THIS LIKE, THIS IS WHAT I'M THINKING ABOUT, WE SAY, WELL GREAT, NOW WE'RE, WE LIKE WHERE YOU'RE GOING, BUT WE'RE GOING TO PAIR YOU UP WITH SOMEONE AND THEY HAVE TO HELP YOU CREATE AN ACTUAL DESIGN DONE BY YOU.
SO THAT COULD BE A USEFUL TOOL IN HELPING PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST STARTING OUT.
I JUST WANNA REMIND YOU ALL THAT THE PERSON DOES HAVE TO BE CAPABLE OF REPRODUCING IT.
SO IT'S NOT JUST A DESIGN FOR THE PROPOSAL, IT'S A DESIGN FOR THE SKATE PARK.
AND THAT'S THE OTHER THING WITH AI IS A LOT OF IT IS NOT ALWAYS REALISTIC.
IT GIVES YOU, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S SOMETHING OTHER THAN DRAWING, IF IT'S GOING TO BE TILE OR YOU MADE OUT OF STEEL OR WOOD, A LOT OF TIMES YOU GET SOMETHING THAT LOOKS COOL, BUT IT'S NOT ACTUALLY MAKEABLE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T, IT DEFIES THE LAWS OF PHYSICS, RIGHT? IT GETS BACK TO THE PORTFOLIO, RIGHT? SO IF WE'RE WANTING TO BRING YOUNGER ARTISTS, THEY NEED TO HAVE SOME SORT OF PORTFOLIO, EVEN IF IT'S DRAWN, THAT SHOWS THAT THEIR, THEIR SKILLSET AND THEY'RE CAPABLE.
AND IF YOU'RE TALKING SOMETHING OF DIFFERING SCALE, WE JUST NEED TO BE ABLE TO SHOW THAT THEY CAN DO THAT WORK.
SO I WOULD SAY IF WE'RE GONNA ALLOW AI, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A REQUIREMENT THAT THEY PROVIDE A PORTFOLIO.
THAT'LL HAVE TO BE CASE BY CASE.
'CAUSE EVEN THAT STIPULATION WITH AI, YOU CAN CREATE AN A, A PORTFOLIO THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE PRODUCED ART.
SO I AM, I AM A LITTLE NERVOUS ABOUT US USING THE PHRASE CASE BY CASE SO MUCH BECAUSE WE COULD HAVE 75 APPLICANTS AND THERE WILL BE NO BANDWIDTH TO HAVE A CASE BY CASE.
I THINK HAVING GUIDELINES THAT ARE FAIR TO EVERYONE IS REALLY KEY.
LIKE IF THEY HAVE PROBLEMS FILLING IT OUT, OKAY, OF COURSE HOW, HOW OFTEN IS THAT GONNA HAPPEN? BUT I DO GET A LITTLE NERVOUS ABOUT LIKE SOME RULES FOR SOME PEOPLE AND NOT SOME FOR OTHERS.
AND I THINK REALLY CASE BY CASES ARE DECIDING WHETHER THE ARTIST IS A GO, YOU KNOW, EVERY, EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE TO FILL OUT THE SAME APPLICATION.
TO ME THAT'S THE MOST DEMOCRATIC AND FAIR, UM, WAY TO DO IT.
BUT WHEN IT COMES TO SELECTING ARTWORK, IT'S ALWAYS A CASE BY CASE.
IT'S HOW DO YOU RELATE TO THIS PIECE OF WORK AND WHAT IS THEIR STYLE AND HOW DOES THAT FIT PETALUMA? I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN SELECTING THE ARTIST NOT IN, UH, FILLING OUT THE APPLICATION.
SO EXAMPLES, EXAMPLES OF ARTWORK IS GONNA BE A REQUIREMENT THEN.
AND HOW MANY EXAMPLES DO YOU THINK WOULD PROVIDE YOU AN ADEQUATE UNDERSTANDING OF THEIR ABILITY? THREE TO FIVE.
I MEAN, JUST USING THE EXAMPLE OF ASH WHO CAME AND PRESENTED BEFORE US, WE GOT A PRETTY GREAT IDEA OF HER WORK AND HER SKILL FROM THREE TO FIVE IMAGES, YOU KNOW, SO I THINK THAT WAS, THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL IN SEEING THOSE BEFORE SHE PRESENTED, YOU KNOW, WHAT SHE EVEN CONSIDERED A ROUGH SKETCH AND IT WAS LIKE, OH, WELL OBVIOUSLY THAT IS GOING TO LOOK VERY DIFFERENT THAN, YOU KNOW, BASED ON HER PORTFOLIO OR EXAMPLES.
SO ONE QUESTION I HAD IS IF LET'S SAY THERE'S A 16 OR 17-YEAR-OLD ARTIST, ARE WE GOING TO REQUIRE THEY'RE PART OF A TEAM? BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY WAY A 16 OR 17-YEAR-OLD WOULD, WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THIS ON THEIR OWN.
I THINK SOME DEFINITELY CAN IF THEY'RE, IF THEY'RE, I, I THINK, I THINK THERE'S A BROAD RANGE OF WHAT PEOPLE CAN DO AT DIFFERENT AGES, BUT I WOULD JUST, I LIKE THE IDEA OF A TEAM OR NOT.
IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO WORK INDEPENDENTLY, CHANCES ARE A YOUNG PERSON WOULD PROBABLY BE WORKING WITH AN ADULT ON SOME LEVEL TO DO IT ALL.
BUT I, EVERY DAY I THINK I SEE PRETTY, YOU PROBABLY DOING YOUR ART CLASSES THAT THERE'S SOME PRETTY HIGHLY MOTIVATED INDIVIDUALS.
I THINK THAT'S THE CASE BY CASE PART, YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO DETERMINE THAT FROM THEIR, UM, SUBMISSION, BUT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO DETERMINE THAT ONCE YOU INTERVIEW THEM.
WHICH IS ALSO WHY I COME BACK TO CREATING REALLY SPECIFIC DEADLINES, YOU KNOW, 50%, 75% JUST TO KEEP LESS EXPERIENCED PEOPLE ON TRACK.
AND YOU KNOW, MAYBE THEY START OUT ALONE AND THEY GET HALFWAY THROUGH AND THEY, THEY SAY, OH GOSH, I BETTER BRING IN SOME HELP.
I'M NOT GONNA, YOU KNOW, I WON'T BE DONE IN TIME.
SO, AND THE PROCESS IS PRETTY LONG.
LIKE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TIMELINE, I'M GONNA TO PULL UP THE TIMELINE AGAIN.
WE'RE LOOKING AT, APPLICATIONS ARE DONE THE 31ST OF JANUARY.
WE PRO WE CHOOSE THE ARTIST THE END OF FEBRUARY.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE INSTALLING UNTIL THE END OF SUMMER OR FALL.
SO WE HAVE A LOT OF BLUE SKY FOR
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THEIR TIMING WISE.I, I'M IMAGINING THAT WE GIVE A PROJECT COMPLETION DEADLINE.
THAT'S WHY WE WERE GIVING A ONE YEAR DEADLINE FOR PROJECT COMPLETION.
UM, I, I DO THINK THEY'RE GONNA NEED SUPPLIES UP FRONT AND MONEY FOR THAT.
I, IN THE PAST, THAT'S HOW WE'VE DONE IT.
UM, BUT I, I DON'T KNOW, I FEEL LIKE THIS IS TRICKY THAT WE'RE LOWERING THE AGE AND THAT WE HAVE THESE REQUIREMENTS AND IT'S GONNA HAVE OTHER CONSIDERATIONS.
BUT I, I DO THINK LIKE IF YOU SEE ARTWORK THAT REALLY MOVES YOU, IT KIND OF TELLS YOU WHAT YOU, WHAT YOU NEED TO DO THAT'S GONNA INFORM US.
BUT THE AI THING WAS, I REALLY AM GETTING DIRECTION THAT THE DESIGN COULD BE INFORMED BY AI IF THEY HAVE OTHER WORKS TO DEMONSTRATE THEIR TALENT.
IS THAT WHAT WE'RE AGREEING ON? OR CAPABILITIES, I THINK AT LEAST FOR THE ORIGINAL SUBMISSION.
BUT THEN TO BE APPROVED, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE THEIR OWN DESIGN.
I MEAN, I, I THINK JUST TO CLARIFY I WAS SAYING IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, ANYBODY CAN THROW AN IDEA INTO IT AND GIVE A STYLE OF ANOTHER ARTIST AND CREATE SOMETHING BEAUTIFUL IN 10 MINUTES, YOU KNOW? UM, SO HAVING A PORTFOLIO THAT SHOWS YOUR PARTICULAR STYLE, HAVING A PORTFOLIO THAT SHOWS YOUR HAND SKILLS, IT CAN ACTUALLY PULL IT OFF, UM, IS PRETTY IMPORTANT.
SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT IS, THAT IS THE DISTINGUISHING, YOU KNOW, COMPONENT THERE.
SO IF, IF YOU HAVE, IT CAN BE HAND DRAWN THINGS, IT CAN, YOU KNOW, IF I WAS LOOKING AT SOMEBODY'S PORTFOLIO AND I CAN SEE HOW THEY SKETCH 'EM BLACK AND WHITE AND THEN I CAN SEE HOW THEY PUT COLOR ON AND THEN, YOU KNOW, LIKE ASHES, YOU COULD SEE A COMMAND OF OIL PAINTING, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD SEE IT.
SO GOING FROM FOUR BY FIVE FOOT TO 20 FOOT, I HAVE NO QUESTION THAT SHE CAN DO IT, YOU KNOW, JUST BY THE COMMAND ON THE SMALLER SCALE.
SO IT'S JUST UM, CASE BY CASE
OKAY THEN I'LL WORK WITH THAT LANGUAGE.
UM, WERE YOU AWARE OF THE MURAL CLASS THAT ULUA DID IN PARTNERSHIP WITH BLUE ZONES FOR TEENS? KIND OF LIKE LOOSELY WITH THE PHOENIX? UM, IT WAS A FEW MONTHS AGO, LIZ FROM AUMA HAD UM, KIND OF LIKE AN OPEN DOOR MURAL SESSION FOR TEENS TO COME IN.
UM, AND SHE MIGHT BE A GOOD PERSON TO TALK TO TO GET THE WORD OUT.
BUT UM, THEY HAD, I DON'T KNOW, FOUR FOOT BY FOUR FOOT CANVAS MURALS THAT THEY WORKED ON AND ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE AMAZING WORK.
SO I WOULD BE REALLY EXCITED TO GET IN CONTACT WITH THAT COMMUNITY AND UM, MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE AWARE OF THIS, UM, PROJECT.
THAT'S WONDERFUL TO HEAR THAT THERE'S BEEN A PIPELINE THAT SUPPORTS THIS PROJECT TOO FOR YOUTH.
UM, WERE THERE ADDITIONAL GOALS THAT ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SEE INCLUDED IN HERE? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FEELINGS OF ACTIVE, FUN, COHERENT STYLE, MULTILAYERED MEANINGS, BEAUTY OR COMPELLING ATTRIBUTES.
UM, WHETHER IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR A PUBLIC SPACE INVISIBLE TO PEOPLE, IT'S DURABLE, SAFE AND LOW MAINTENANCE.
SO THESE ARE ALL CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, BUT THEY'RE PART OF LIKE THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES AND GOALS.
UM, CONSIDER THE SKATE COMMUNITY AND CULTURE IN THE PROJECT DESIGN AND PROVIDE OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSTAND, I'M SORRY, TO UNDERSERVED AND EMERGING ARTISTS.
SO THAT'S REALLY THE CONVERSATION WE'VE BEEN HAVING IS IF WE SEE SOMEBODY WHERE THIS IS THE RIGHT FIT, WE'LL TAILOR TAILOR OUR SUPPORT TO THAT.
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE? OKAY.
THE TIMELINE IS, YOU CAN OBVIOUSLY SEE THERE'S A LOT OF TBD, BUT THAT IS, UM, RELATED TO HOW THE BID COMES IN AND HOW THE PROJECT'S MANAGED.
WE'RE REALLY A PARTNER IN THIS WITH, UM, WITH THE PARKS AND PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.
SO WE WE'RE REALLY ON THEIR TIMELINE.
SO DESPITE BEST INTENTIONS, WE'RE GONNA GET OUR PART READY AND QUEUED UP.
SO IF IT'S AHEAD OF TIMELINE, IF IT'S BEHIND TIMELINE, WE'RE READY.
AND THEN, UM, HERE YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN THAT SURFACE AREA.
SO I'LL REACH OUT, I'LL CLARIFY THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 230 SQUARE FEET AND I'LL ASK GRIND LINE FOR ADDITIONAL IMAGES.
'CAUSE RIGHT NOW YOU KIND OF CAN DO A NUMBER BY NUMBER TO WHERE THESE SITES ARE.
BUT I, I LIKE THE IDEA OF GETTING
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A MORE INCLUSIVE IMAGE THAT SHOWS LIKE ONE PARTICULAR SPACE OR HOW THEY CONNECT ACROSS VIEW SHEDS.UM, THE BUDGET DESCRIPTION WAS LAID OUT FOR RIGHT NOW, I'M SAYING BETWEEN 13 AND 15,000.
I REALLY NEED CLARIFICATION FROM THEM WHEN THEY GET THEIR FINAL NUMBERS IN.
BUT THIS IS THE ESTIMATE THAT NATE LUNA, WHO'S THE PROJECT MANAGER PROVIDED ME AT THIS POINT.
THIS IS WHERE, WHERE THEY'RE LANDING, UM, THE CRITERIA, UM, YOU MAY WANNA ADD OR TAKE AWAY FROM THIS, I TOOK IT FROM THE IZO, UM, WHICH CHAPTER 18, WHICH ASKS FOR ARTISTIC EXCELLENCE, ORIGINALITY AND INNOVATION APPROPRIATENESS WITH THE MEDIAN, THE MEDIUM AND THE STYLE AND THE CONCEPTS.
A DEMONSTRATED UNDERSTANDING AND OUR INCORPORATION OF THE STATED GOALS OF THE PROJECT.
THAT IT BE SUITABLE FOR PERMANENT OUTDOOR PLACEMENT AND THEY ADDRESS MAINTENANCE AND DURABILITY AND SAFETY CONCERNS THAT THE ARTWORK BE AN EFFECTIVE BALANCE OF SIZE AND SCOPE DESIGN.
UM, THAT THEY ARE, THEY COLLABORATE WITH ACTIVE STAKEHOLDER GROUPS INCLUDING COMMUNITY OUTREACH THROUGH AN ONLINE SURVEY, SURVEY, WHATEVER THEY CHOOSE.
WE JUST WANT ONE ENGAGEMENT OPPORTUNITY AT MINIMUM.
SO THAT WAY WE KNOW THAT THE PUBLIC HAS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE WITH THE ARTIST.
UM, AND THAT MAY ALSO BE LIKE THE MENTORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
THAT'S ANOTHER WAY TO BUILD IT IN UM, A DEMONSTRATED SENSITIVITY TO ADDRESS THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS OF THE PROJECT ON PUBLIC CITIZENS.
THIS ONE ISN'T SO MUCH, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHO WOULD BE SENSITIVE TO ART AT A SKATE PARK, BUT IF THAT PERSON COMES UP, WE'LL BE SENSITIVE TO THEM OR THE ARTIST WELL AND THAT IT, THEY COMPLY WITH THE TERMS CONDITION AND INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS AS REQUIRED BY THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT.
THIS ONE, ALL OF THE MURALS THAT WE HAVE PUT IN THE ARTISTS HAVE TO HAVE INSURANCE FOR WHILE THEY'RE CREATING THE MURAL ON SITE.
SO WE COULD HELP SHOW THEM THE BEST AVENUES FOR THAT.
A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE ADDED ONTO THEIR HOMEOWNERS POLICY OR THEIR BUSINESS POLICY PROFESSIONAL MURALISTS ALWAYS HAVE INSURANCE FOR THIS TYPE OF PROJECT.
BUT IF WE'RE INVITING YOUNG PEOPLE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BUILD IN SOME WAY TO SUPPORT THAT AND WE CAN DECIDE IF THERE'S A PORTION OF THE BUDGET ALLOCATED FOR THAT.
I'M NOT SURE HOW INSURANCE WILL WORK FOR THIS PARTICULAR PO PROJECT IN A PARK DIFFERENT FROM ON A SKATE PARK OR I'M SORRY, THE SWIM CENTER OR THE LIBRARY.
BUT I, I'LL DO SOME RESEARCH TO SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
BUT IT IS UNDERSTOOD THAT THE ARTIST WILL HAVE TO HAVE A LEVEL OF PROFESSIONALISM WHERE THEY CAN SECURE THAT.
AS STATED, RIGHT NOW IT'S TO BE INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET.
I HONESTLY BELIEVE WITH THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE PROJECT, THAT IT'S A PRETTY GOOD BUDGET FOR THAT SMALL OF A SPACE THAT THEY COULD GET INSURANCE FINE.
UM, SO IN THE APPLICATION PROCESS WE'RE ASKING FOR A PROPOSED CONCEPT, SO A FULL COLOR RENDERING AND LAYOUT ON THE PROJECT LOCATION.
SO THEY USE THE TEMPLATED SITES THAT ARE IDENTIFIED IN THE MAP AS THEIR SURFACE AREA AND WHEN THEY PROVIDE IT.
SO THEY'LL HAVE TO HAVE SOME ABILITY TO LIKE AT LEAST DRAW THAT OUT.
MAYBE I COULD ASK GRIDLINE FOR A BLANK CANVAS OF THOSE AREAS.
OR MAYBE WE CAN WORK IF SOMEBODY HAS BETTER DESIGN SKILLS THAN ME, WE CAN WORK AS A COMMITTEE IF SOMEBODY'S COMFORTABLE HELPING PULL THAT TOGETHER.
UM, I DON'T WANNA THINK OF IT AS A COLORING BOOK, BUT IF SOMEBODY HAS AN ISSUE DEVELOPING THOSE, IF THEY'RE GONNA BE DOING LIKE A HAND DRAFTED RENDERING, WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING AVAILABLE LIKE THAT.
SO THEY'RE GONNA OUTLINE THEIR INTEREST IN THE PROJECT, UM, WITH THEIR FULL NAMES AND CONTACT INFORMATION FOR EACH APPLICANT ON THEIR TEAM.
SO 500 WORDS OR LESS, WE COULD DO MORE IF YOU WANT TO TAKE IT TO A THOUSAND IF SOMEBODY HAS A LOT TO SAY.
BUT UM, I WAS THINKING LIKE 500 WOULD BE ADEQUATE FOR THEM TO SAY WHAT THEIR STATEMENT IS.
AND TO BE CLEAR, A STATEMENT IS DESCRIBING WHAT THEIR, WHAT THEIR MEANING IS BEHIND WHAT THEIR CONCEPT IS PORTRAYING ALSO WE'D LIKE A RESUME.
SO THIS RESUME WOULD JUST TALK ABOUT THEIR WORK.
THIS WILL NOT BE REQUIRED IF THEY DON'T HAVE PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE.
IF WE HAVE SOMEBODY WHO'S NEVER HAD A JOB OR WHATEVER, THIS WOULDN'T REALLY BE APPLICABLE.
BUT IF SOMEBODY'S SEASONED AND THEY WANNA SHARE IT, THAT'S ALSO AVAILABLE.
I HAD NOT HAD THIS AS REQUIRED AS LONG AS THEY HAD OTHER THINGS, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE WE DO WANT THREE TO FIVE WORK SAMPLES.
SO I'LL EDIT THAT REFERENCES MINIMUM OF TWO IS THAT WORK FOR EVERYBODY AND A BUDGET OUTLINE WOULD BE REQUIRED.
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SO I'LL HAVE THE CITY PERMIT FEES AND PROPOSED INSURANCE COSTS WRITTEN INTO THE PROPOSAL.JUST AN IDEA OF RANGE SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW TO GENERATE THEIR BUDGET IF THEY'RE NOT EXPERIENCED.
UM, MELISSA, WHEN YOU SAID YOU WOULDN'T REQUIRE A RESUME, COULDN'T A YOUNG PERSON WHO'S GONNA BE A STUDENT STILL SUBMIT A RESUME OF THEIR BOARD? IF YOU WANNA REQUIRE THAT, I THINK THAT'S FINE.
'CAUSE IT'S A LEARNING OPPORTUNITY ALSO TO CREATE A RESUME.
I WAS JUST A LITTLE NERVOUS ABOUT MAKING TOO MANY ROADBLOCKS FOR SOMEBODY THAT THEY'RE LEARNING.
RIGHT? I DON'T WANT IT TO BE A ROADBLOCK, BUT JUST THAT WOULD ALSO SHOW SOME CREATIVE THINKING.
THEY ATTEND SCHOOL IN THE CITY OF PETALUMA.
UH, IT'S FRESHMEN SO THEY SHOULD HAVE ONE.
UM, AND WE ALSO IN THEIR BUDGET OUTLINE, WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IF THEY'RE TRAVELING THAT'S SOMETHING THEY COVER.
THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO SUPPORT THAT.
JUST ANOTHER QUESTION ON INSURANCE.
SINCE THE CITY HASN'T WORKED WITH ARTISTS UNDER 18 BEFORE, HAVE YOU GUYS EXPLORED WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR SOMEONE UNDER 18 TO GET INSURANCE COVERAGE? YEAH, I'M GONNA HAVE TO ASK RISK HOW WE WOULD, WOULD SUPPORT THAT.
'CAUSE IT'S KIND OF, WE COULD DECIDE.
I MEAN I CAN'T IMAGINE IT'S GONNA BE MORE THAN A FEW HUNDRED DOLLARS.
SO WE COULD DECIDE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CITY WANTS TO SUPPORT IF WE HAVE ANY.
IT'S JUST HARD 'CAUSE IT SHOULD COME OUT OF THE BUDGET.
BUT WE COULD SEE IF WE CAN ADD THEM TO THE CITY'S POLICY WHILE THEY'RE DOING IT.
I CAN ASK RISK AND SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THEY'RE CAPABLE OF DOING, BUT CAN THEY EVEN ADD THEM IF THEY'RE UNDER I'M GONNA HAVE TO ASK THEM.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I, ONE WAY AROUND IT.
IF THEY'RE YOUNGER THAN 18, THEY MAY BE REQUIRED TO HAVE AN 18-YEAR-OLD ADULT CO ON THEIR TEAM COLLABORATE THAT PROBABLY AND THE ADULT CARRIES THE INSURANCE.
AND THAT WAY THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY EARLIER AROUND POTENTIAL LEGAL PROBLEMS. YEAH.
I THINK WELL BECAUSE THERE'S THE WORK, UH, A NUMBER OF HOURS A STUDENT CAN WORK AND IF SCHOOL TIME IS CONSIDERED THAT WORK TIME.
SO THAT'S KINDA WHAT I WAS TRYING TO HINT AT ABOUT BEING PART OF A TEAM TO MAKE SURE WE'RE COVERING ALL OF THAT.
I'LL CHECK WITH OUR RISK DEPARTMENT TO SEE WHAT, WHAT'S PROTOCOL, BECAUSE I KNOW FOR LUMA ICE WE REQUIRE THAT EVERYBODY BE OVER 18.
AND SO WE HAVEN'T REALLY HAD INTERACTION WITH UNDER 18.
EVEN AT THE FAIR, ANYBODY WHO WAS UNDER 18 WAS WORKING ON THE EGG PART IN THAT SEPARATE CONTRACT.
SO THIS MAY BE A LITTLE BIT OF, UH, A CHALLENGE, BUT WE WOULD JUST SAY THAT THEY MUST HAVE AN ADULT ATTACHED TO THE APPLICATION TO ASSUME THE INSURANCE POLICY.
IT'S, IT'S INTERESTING 'CAUSE I HAVEN'T HAD TO THINK ABOUT IT UNTIL THEY SAID WE'D REALLY LIKE PUBLIC WORKS AND THE STAKEHOLDERS SAID WE'D REALLY LIKE YOUNG PEOPLE TO DO IT.
SO WE'LL, WE'LL CREATE A PROCESS.
DO WE HAVE A CONSIDERATION OF UM, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S 14 OR 15 DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES, RIGHT? UH, THERE'S ALWAYS GONNA BE PEOPLE THAT GRAVITATE TOWARDS A LARGER ONE OR THE ONE THAT ISN'T YOU ON THE STAIRS.
ARE THERE CONSIDERATIONS ON WHO WOULD GET WHAT SPACE AND OR YOU KNOW, IF WE START, YOU KNOW, YOU START GETTING THOSE MANY VARIABLES, WE'RE NOT GETTING INTO THE WEEDS ON THAT.
THIS IS THEIR COLLECTIVE PROJECT, SO THAT'S FOR THEM TO MANAGE.
IF THEY SUBMIT AS A TEAM AND WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THEIR PROPOSAL LOOKS LIKE, THAT'S ONE OF THOSE LIKE, WE'LL KNOW IT WHEN WE SEE IT.
NO, I MEAN OF ALL THE DIFFERENT 14 SPACES OR ALL THE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.
WE'RE NOT BREAKING UP ANY OF THE LOCATIONS.
THIS IS A SINGULAR, COHESIVE, ONE SPOT TEAM.
IF THE TEAM IS DOING IT, THE TEAM'S DOING IT.
AND THEY NEED TO LAY THAT OUT FOR US.
I WOULD, I THINK IT'D BE REALLY CHALLENGING TO LIKE GO THROUGH AND THE WEEDS WITH THEM ON THAT.
SO I'M GONNA STOP SHARING THIS DOCUMENT AND UM, AND I'LL PULL UP IF THERE WERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT, UM, THE FLYER.
'CAUSE I'LL TAILOR THE FLYER TO WHAT, WHAT WE'VE ALL STATED.
SO IT'S A LITTLE, IT'LL, IT'LL INCLUDE, I COULD INCLUDE THE OTHER IMAGE, IF THAT'S CLEAR.
I'LL PULL IT UP TO SHARE RIGHT NOW.
SO THIS IS THE IMAGE OF THE FLYER.
IT WAS KIND OF PLAYFUL AND YOUTHFUL,
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BUT THE IDEA WAS THAT WE'LL HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THE WEBSITE.THE, I'VE CREATED A HOLDING PLACE FOR THE, UM, THE FORM TO FILL OUT FOR THE APPLICATION.
SO WE'LL HAVE A MULTIPLE WAYS THAT THEY CAN ACCESS THIS.
WE CAN ALSO HAVE FLYERS AND FORMS AVAILABLE AT CITY HALL.
SO IF THERE'S A YOUNG PERSON OR IF THEY WANT TO EMAIL ME, I CAN EMAIL OR CALL ME.
MAKE SURE YOU CATCH THE CORRECT SPELLING OF LUCCHESE IN THE BUBBLE LETTERS.
IN THE BOTTOM LETTERS? NO, THE BUBBLE LETTERS AT THE TOP.
YEAH, I'LL DEFINITELY SO CORRECT THE SPELLING.
AND THEN, UM, IS THERE ANY OTHER CONTENT THAT YOU SHOULD THINK SHOULD BE IN HERE? BECAUSE THIS WAS MORE LIKE KIND OF A POSTER OR SOMETHING WE PUT UP AROUND TOWN THAT DIRECTS THEM TO A WEBPAGE.
SO ANY SUPPORT THEY NEED, THEY CAN REACH OUT.
MELISSA, COULD WE ADD ARTISTS OR ARTISTS TEAMS? YES.
FOR YOUNG PEOPLE IT'S COULD BE A LITTLE INTIMIDATING TO DO IT SOLO.
AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS FEEDBACK.
LIKE IT, YOU KNOW, I WANT IT TO BE SOMETHING THAT REPRESENTS OUR COMMITTEE AND IT'S REALLY SOMETHING I THREW TOGETHER TO KIND OF INSPIRE YOU AND I COULD ADD MORE LANGUAGE.
SO IF THIS IS POSTED AT THE PHOENIX OR POSTED AROUND TOWN THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT LIKE, WHAT IS THAT? OKAY, THIS IS WHAT IT IS.
AND OUR WEBPAGE FOR SUBMISSION CAN ALSO HAVE THE PRESENTATION FROM THE PARKS DEPARTMENT SO THAT THEY COULD WATCH THAT AND LEARN A LOT MORE ABOUT THE SURFACES.
THAT WAS AS THOROUGH AS ANYBODY'S BEEN ABOUT IT.
SO THAT'S WHERE THEY'LL GET THE MOST INFORMATION.
UM, YOU MIGHT NEED A CITY OF PETALUMA LOGO AND OR, UM, A CREDIT TO RICKY WATTS.
MAYBE IN MOUSE TYPE OR SOMETHING.
AND I SHOULD SAY LOTS OF ARTISTS AND YOUTH HAVE ALREADY STARTED REACHING OUT.
SO I CREATED A FORM ON THE SKATE PARK WEBPAGE THAT IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO GET ON OUR EMAIL LIST OUTSIDE OF THE PARKS DEPARTMENT EMAIL LIST THAT WE HAVE, WE'RE STARTING TO BUILD THAT SO WE CAN REACH OUT TO ANYBODY WHO RIGHT NOW IS CURIOUS, ONCE RFPS OUT, DOES RICKY WANNA MENTOR
SO I KIND OF LIKE, AND I DIDN'T WANNA PUT HIS WORK ON HERE.
HE SAID THAT AFTER I'D KIND OF STARTED THIS.
UM, BUT YEAH, I COULD ASK HIM.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING WHERE HE COULD APPLY WITH THE YOUTH AND THAT COULD BE THEIR SHARED APPLICATION.
YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T WANNA GET TOO IN THE WEEDS OF SPENDING A LOT OF STAFF TIME CONNECTING.
IT'S GONNA BE SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROPOSAL AND WE'RE GONNA REVIEW THAT BASED ON THEIR PROPOSAL.
I THINK WE COULD REALLY GET OVERWHELMED.
I COULD, UM, WITH TRYING TO CONNECT PEOPLE WITH PEOPLE, IT'S GONNA BE PART OF THEIR NEEDS TO BE PROFESSIONAL.
UM, WHERE YOU SAID A GRANT AWARD OF 13,000 IS AVAILABLE, WOULD IT MAYBE BE THE GRANT AWARD, UH, WILL BE PROVIDED TO THE SELECTED ARTIST OR ARTIST TEAM? YES.
BECAUSE I'M JUST THINKING AS A KID AND I COULD JUST SAY AN AWARD OF MONEY, IF IT SAID AVAILABLE, THEY'D SAY, WELL, DOES THAT MEAN I GET IT? OR IT'S JUST AVAILABLE
TO THE SELECT GOOD GRANT OF 13,000 IS AWARDED.
YEAH, ALL OF THOSE ARE PRETTY EASY EDITS FOR ME TO JUST, ANYTHING.
AND IF YOU LEAVE THE MEETING AND YOU HAVE OTHER THOUGHTS, LIKE PLEASE SHARE THEM BECAUSE I, I'LL BE WORKING ON THIS OVER I'LL, I HOPE TO HAVE THIS COMPLETED BY PROBABLY NOVEMBER 20TH.
THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO GET THE RFP UPDATED SO THAT IT'S HAD TIME FOR YOU GUYS TO GET IT EMAILED TO YOU.
THIS DOESN'T, YOU COULD ALSO BETA TEST IT FOR ME.
UM, THAT'S WHAT I PLANNED ON HAVING ONE OF MY KIDS DO, IS JUST FILL IT OUT AND MAKE SURE IT, BECAUSE IT, SO FAR I TESTED EVERYTHING AND IT LOOKS PRETTY GOOD, BUT I TRIED TO MAKE THIS AS COST EFFICIENT.
IN THE PAST WE'VE USED SLIDEROOM, WHICH IS WHAT I'D PUT IN HERE, BUT, UM, WE REALLY NEED TO STREAMLINE IT.
I DON'T, THE CITY'S NOT SUBSCRIBING TO THAT RIGHT NOW, SO I WAS TRYING TO THINK OF WHAT TOOLS WE HAVE THAT WOULD BE THE MOST EFFICIENT.
UM, I'M ANTICIPATING THAT WE'RE GONNA GET DOZENS OF APPLICATIONS AT LEAST.
SO THIS IS GONNA BE A PRETTY SIZABLE REVIEW PROCESS FOR A PRETTY SMALL PROJECT.
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WANTS AND I THINK IT'S GONNA BE VERY SPECIAL.I'M GONNA, I THINK YOUR FLYER'S VERY FUN, HAS A GOOD ENERGY.
I THINK IT'LL APPEAL TO THE YOUNGER, YOUNGER PEOPLE.
SO WERE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PRESENTATION FROM PARKS OR DO YOU THINK WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT THAT? OKAY.
ARE THERE, IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER IDEAS LATER, I'M GONNA INCORPORATE, I'VE BEEN TAKING COPIOUS NOTES, SO WE'LL ALL INCORPORATE THEM ALL IN.
UM, I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL YOUR WORK SHOPPING WITH THIS.
I KNOW IT'S A LOT TO HAVE, BUT IT HELPS MAKE A BETTER PROCESS.
AND WHEN WE HAVE OUR PROCESS, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE A PROCESS FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER, ANY OF THAT, THIS KIND OF QUEUES THE WAY UP FOR US BEING READY FOR A LARGER COMMISSION.
SO IT'LL BE WONDERFUL TO HAVE THAT ALL SET UP AND READY TO APPLY TO ANOTHER PROJECT.
ANY, UM, DO YOU WANNA ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? YEAH.
UM, AT THIS TIME I'M GONNA CIRCLE BACK WITH YOU URIEL AND SEE IF WE GOT ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS.
UM, 'CAUSE I THINK WE, WE RECEIVED NO PUBLIC COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING.
AND DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING TO BRING UP OR ARE WE CLOSING THIS ITEM? I THINK WE'RE CLOSED.
THANK YOU, UM, MELISSA, FOR YOUR REALLY IN-DEPTH KNOWLEDGE OF THIS AND FOR REALLY, YOU KNOW, GETTING THE RFP BONES TOGETHER AND SPENDING SO MUCH TIME ON THIS, I CAN SEE IT'S A BIG PROJECT AND YOU'VE BEEN DOING A LOT BEHIND THE SCENES WHILE WE'VE BEEN NOT MEETING.
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MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER SIX, WHICH IS OUR SUBCOMMITTEE REPORT AND COMMUNITY UPDATES SECTION.I WOULD INVITE ANY COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO REPORT ON ANYTHING YOU'RE DOING ON ITEM NUMBER SIX.
PERHAPS WE SHOULD BRING THIS UP ON THE SCREEN SO WE SHOULD I'M DOING IT.
REMEMBER RIGHT NOW,
AND SO AT OUR LAST MEETING WE TALKED ABOUT ADDING NEW MEMBERS TO THE DIFFERENT GROUPS.
HERE I NOW SEE THAT WE ARE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO ADD THE SKATE PARK, WHICH IS INCLUDED HERE.
AND, UM, WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE A GROUP FOR THE ROUNDABOUT.
AND SO I JUST, I THINK IN ORDER TO LIMIT THE NEED FOR STAFF TIME, BECAUSE THE ROUNDABOUT IS FUNDED BY THEM, IT'S NOT PUBLIC ART MONEY.
WE REALLY WANNA LIMIT OUR PROCESS ON THAT ONE.
THAT HAVING, UH, AN AVAILABLE SUBCOMMITTEE WILL BE REALLY VALUABLE FOR THEM.
BUT AGAIN, YOU'RE ALL WELCOME TO, YOU KNOW, SEND THEM EMAILS IF YOU WANT TO, IF YOU THINK ABOUT SOMETHING AFTER THE FACT, YOU'RE WELCOME TO SEND THEM EMAILS.
I CAN PUT YOU IN CONTACT WITH LANA.
UM, SO IF WE COULD TALK REALLY QUICK ABOUT THE ASPHALT ART, UM, JUST TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE SUBCOMMITTEE.
UM, I WANTED TO TELL YOU GUYS THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF REQUESTS FOR AN APPLICATION PROCESS FOR ASPHALT ART AND FOR MURALS AS WELL.
AND, UM, I'M IMAGINING THIS GROUP WILL PROBABLY BE INVOLVED IN HELPING, UM, PROVIDE INPUT ON A PROCESS FOR WHEN PEOPLE WANNA DO ASPHALT ART.
WE DON'T HAVE A PROCESS RIGHT NOW.
AND I KNOW BJORN HAS, HE'S OUR, UM, HE'S OUR, UM, TRAFFIC ENGINEER AND HE TRYING TO REMEMBER HIS EXACT TITLE RIGHT NOW.
AND I'M SORRY, I CAN'T REMEMBER.
BUT JORN GRINBERG, UM, HE SAID THAT THERE'S A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE WHERE THEY'RE JUST PAINTING, UM, BOUTS ALONG FIFTH STREET ALONG, UM, WEBSTER, WHERE THEY'RE BEIGE COLORED.
THEY'RE JUST DOING SOME IN FRONT OF CHERRY VALLEY.
AND HE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE ART IN THOSE LITTLE AREAS, BUT HE DOESN'T HAVE A PROCESS AND A BUDGET.
SO I'D LIKE TO CREATE A PROCESS WHERE A SCHOOL OR A GROUP COULD SAY, HEY, I WANNA DO THIS AND TAKE IT ON.
THERE'S REALLY EASY LANGUAGE FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT DO IT.
SEATTLE, PORTLAND, WHERE THEY ALREADY IDENTIFIED THE TYPES OF PAINTS.
THEY'RE VERY CLEAR WITH THE PARAMETERS AND THE LOCATIONS AND PROXIMITY TO TRAFFIC SO THEY CAN KEEP PEOPLE OUT OF HARM'S WAY.
UM, SO THAT GROUP, WHOEVER'S ON THAT MIGHT NOT BE DOING ASPHALT ART RIGHT AWAY, BUT THEY'RE GONNA BE HELPING CREATE THE, THE LANGUAGE THAT WILL ALLOW FOR IT MOVING FORWARD.
THE PROCESS, UM, SORRY, THIS IS SUCH A LONG MEETING, BUT IF ANYBODY HAS AN INTEREST IN THAT, WE CAN HAVE UP TO THREE MEMBERS ON THAT.
DON'T WE ALREADY HAVE SOME YES, WE COMMITTEE MEMBERS YEAH.
LAST TIME WE DID SOME, AND I, LET ME SEE IF I YEAH, IT'S ON, IT'S ON THE SECOND PAGE.
IT'D BE GREAT IF WE COULD SEE THAT BECAUSE SORRY, IT JUST CONDENSED WHEN I MOVED THE DOCUMENT.
SO ASPHALT ART IS BREE WEAVER AND WE STILL NEED TWO MORE.
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SO WE NEED TO ADD TWO MORE MEMBERS TO ASPHALT ART.TANNER, MAYBE WE SHOULD, WE'LL ADD TANNER.
IT'S JUST THAT'S THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT.
AND WE COULD SEE IF, UM, IF DOROTHY IS INTERESTED IN THAT.
UM, FOR THE GRANT SEEKING RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE AND DIGS CODY CHISHOLM.
IF ANYBODY'S INTERESTED IN JUST LOOKING FOR GRANTS FOR OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR ART COMMITTEE.
I AM ON MANY UPDATE LISTS LOOKING TO SEE WHAT'S AVAILABLE TO US.
DOES THAT INTEREST YOU SEEM TO BE OUR BEST RESOURCE AND THEN YOU CAN FIELD THINGS TO US AND WE CAN OKAY.
I MEAN, TWO MEMBERS OF NOT THROUGH THEM A LITTLE MORE, FEEL LIKE WE'RE IN A GOOD PLACE FOR THAT.
UM, THE OTHER, UH, KENWORTH PARK PUBLIC ART THAT'S ON HOLD.
I THINK WE'RE FINE RIGHT NOW UNTIL THAT, UNTIL THERE'S FUNDING THAT PRESENTS ITSELF, THE MARY FULLER MCCHESNEY ART.
UM, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ANNE CODY, RIGHT? YEAH.
AND WE HAVE ROOM FOR ONE MORE.
WE HAVE SIX REMAINING PIECES TO PLACE, TANNER.
AND I WILL SAY THANKS TO TANNER FOR ALL THE LITERAL HEAVY LIFTING LATELY.
UM,
AND THE NEXT ONE IS PUBLIC ART MAPS AND TOURS.
I DO SEE THAT, UM, OUR MAP HAS BEEN REALLY SUCCESSFUL.
I AM HOPING TO GET MORE UPDATES TO THE GOOGLE MAP.
I HAD TO, IT GOT FORMATTED DIFFERENTLY, SO I'M NOW GONNA BE ADDING A LOT OF THE PIECES YOU'VE SENT ME ON.
BUT I WOULD, UM, I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO COME UP WITH A PLAN FOR TOURS, LIKE FREE PUBLIC TOURS, MAYBE TWICE A YEAR THAT WE CAN COORDINATE AS A COMMITTEE.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME TO MEETINGS TO DO THAT.
YOU CAN JUST SAY, HERE'S OUR MAP, WHAT'S A THEME WE WANNA DO? AND DO A TOUR OR CREATE SOME KIND OF FUN THING FOR THE COMMUNITY WHERE THEY COULD SAY LIKE, YOU KNOW, NOW THAT WE HAVE MORE MARY SCULPTURES OUT, WE CAN KIND OF SAY, HERE'S WHERE THEY'RE, UM, BUT THAT'S UP TO YOU GUYS.
I'M JUST, I THINK THAT THE TOUR IDEA IS GREAT AND I THINK THIS IS A REAL OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO WORK WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, THE CHAMBER OR THE WELCOME CENTER OR ANOTHER, UM, LARGER GROUP THAT MIGHT ALSO HAVE VOLUNTEERS SO THAT IT CAN HAPPEN MORE OFTEN.
YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE A MONTHLY KIND OF LIKE HISTORIC DOCENTS LEAD PEOPLE AROUND.
UM, I, I THINK IT COULD BE A REALLY POPULAR TOURIST EVENT FOR PEOPLE WHO VISIT PETALUMA.
UM, UM, WE ALREADY HAVE A SHORT TOUR AND A LONG TOUR MAPPED OUT.
SO THE, THE HARD WORK IS DONE NOW.
IT'S JUST REALLY ORGANIZING DOCENTS AND, AND PUTTING IT ON CALENDARS AND HAVING PEOPLE SHOW UP.
SO, UM, IT COULD BE A REALLY FUN THING.
SO I THINK THE BEST THING TO DO IS MAYBE GET IN CONVERSATION WITH SOME OTHER BODIES AND, AND SEE IF WE CAN MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, A JOINT EFFORT.
AND WE HAVE A FULL HOUSE ON THAT ONE.
WE HAVE CHERYL CODY, AND WE HAVE ROOM FOR ONE MORE.
UM, I'LL BE PROVIDING SOME PROJECT UPDATES IN MY STAFF REPORT ABOUT THAT.
'CAUSE THAT WILL BECOME ACTIVE AGAIN SOON.
WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO JOIN THAT TEAM? WE HAVE A BENCH AND TWO FRAGMENTS THAT WE ARE GOING TO CITE BY THE RIVER ARCH.
IT'S, UM, ACTUALLY IT'S CHERYL AND CODY.
DOROTHY WASN'T AT OUR LAST MEETING, SO, BUT WE CAN LEAVE THAT OPEN FOR HER IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT INTERESTS HER.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE SKATE PARK SUBCOMMITTEE IS TANNER BRIE.
AND WE HAVE ROOM FOR ONE MORE.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE INTEREST IN SKATE PARK? YOU ALREADY HAVE, YOU HAVE TO ACT ON IT.
UM, SO ANN, OKAY, SO I'LL ADD ALL THE NEW MEMBERS TO THIS AND THEN WHO IS INTERESTED IN THE ROUNDABOUT ADVISORY COMMITTEE?
AND WE CAN KEEP THE SKATE PARK OPEN.
I WANNA OFFER, UM, DJ SOME DOROTHY.
SHE, SHE GOES BY DJ JUST SO NEW, NEW MEMBERS KNOW, BUT THAT SHE HAS SOME OPPORTUNITIES TOO.
SO I'LL ADD YOU TO THE ROUNDABOUT.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE IT? CODY BRIA AND TANNER? UM, NO, I DON'T.
WELL, YOU, YOU ALL JUST SAID THAT, SO YOU HAVE TO DECIDE AMONGST YOURSELVES WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO DO.
UM, OKAY, SO YOU GUYS ARE ROPED IN BRI AND TANA, BRIANNA AND CODY.
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OKAY.AND SO, UH, AT THIS POINT, WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO PROVIDE COMMITTEE COMMENTS ON THESE ITEMS OR ANY OF THEIR OWN PERSONAL PROJECTS OR PROJECTS THAT THEY HAVE COMING UP? CODY IS, I HAVE HIS FORMER PRESENTATION AS WELL.
WHY DON'T YOU TALK ABOUT THAT? WE DON'T NEED THE PRESENTATION.
UM, BECAUSE IT'S VERY SPECIFIC.
I, WELL, NO, NOT EVERYONE HAD HEARD IT SO QUICKLY.
UM, IN 2028, I'LL BE HOSTING THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY CALIFORNIA BLACKSMITH ASSOCIATION CONFERENCE AT THE FAIRGROUNDS.
UM, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE, WELL, SO THE DEVELOPMENT IS, WE ARE WORKING ON OUR THEME AND TONE AND ALL THAT.
AND BASICALLY IT'S GOING TO BE CALLED LEGACIES.
AND IT'S CELEBRATING PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE AND EXPLORING AND CELEBRATING OF, UH, NOT JUST BLACKSMITHING, BUT JUST METAL WORKING IN GENERAL IN, IT'S THE CALIFORNIA BLACKSMITHS.
BUT WE'RE FOCUSING HERE BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE OUR ASSOCIATION MAINLY STARTED.
THIS TOWN ESPECIALLY HAS A VERY LONG HISTORY, UH, WITH METAL WORKERS.
UM, AS I, IN MY PRESENTATION, I SHOWED PLACES ALL AROUND TOWN THAT PEOPLE HAVE DONE WORK THAT, YOU KNOW, NO ONE HAD HAD ANY IDEA THE SCOPE OF THAT.
UM, SO THE BIG THING RIGHT NOW IS I HAVE ONE, POSSIBLY TWO, UM, PIECES OF PUBLIC ART THAT CAN COME OUT OF THAT, UH, CONFERENCE.
UM, AND WE'LL BE ADDRESSING PUBLIC ART IN LIKE THREE DIFFERENT WAYS IN THE CONFERENCE.
ONE, WE WILL BE, UH, TEACHING ABOUT PUBLIC ART.
THERE'S A LOT OF BLACKSMITHS I KNOW THAT ARE REALLY INTERESTED IN HOW TO GET INTO THE PUBLIC ART WORLD.
SOMETHING WE USED TO DO A LOT OF THAT I THINK MAYBE HAS NOT HAPPENED AS MUCH LATELY, BUT IT WAS IN THE BEGINNING.
UM, SO WE'LL BE HAVING DEMONSTRATIONS, UH, ON PUBLIC ART.
AND THOSE WILL CREATE THE, THOSE DEMONSTRATE DEMONSTRATIONS DURING THE CONFERENCE WILL BE PRODUCING THIS ART THAT WILL THEN BE A GIFT TO THE CITY, WHICH IS THE SECOND WAY WILL INCORPORATE PUBLIC ART HERE, WHICH IS CREATING PIECES TO GIVE TO THE CITY.
UH, AND THE THIRD WAY IS ALLOWING, UH, PEOPLE THE ABILITY TO CREATE THESE PIECES.
WE HAVE A LOT OF EXCELLENT, UM, ARTISTS IN, IN THE, SORRY, I'M EXHAUSTED NOW IN THE, UM, IN THE CBA IT, AND WE CAN'T HAVE EVERYONE BE A DEMONSTRATOR, BUT THERE'S SOME PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE CALIBERS SO GREAT.
AND SO THE BIG PIECE WOULD BE A COLLABORATIVE PIECE, UM, BETWEEN MAYBE OUR TOP 10, UH, OF SMITHS.
UH, DESIGNED BY, MAINLY BY A GUY WHO'S ACCOMPLISHED AT LEAST ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND, UM, IN, UH, NON FARRIS WORK.
THAT'S THE ONE THING WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT IS WHAT THIS IS GONNA BE MADE OUT OF, WHAT THE PARAMETERS ARE.
BUT THIS PIECE IS GOING TO BE KIND OF THE HEADLINE OF THE CONFERENCE.
A LOT OF IT WILL BE MADE IN THESE SMITHS SHOPS AHEAD OF TIME AND JUST SORT OF FABRIC BROUGHT TOGETHER AND FINISHED, BECAUSE WE CAN'T MAKE THIS CALIBER ART IN A COUPLE DAYS, AS WE KNOW, AS I KNOW WITH THE, UH, GATE I'M STILL MAKING FOR THE FAIRGROUNDS.
UM, AND THEN THE OTHER PIECE, UH, WOULD BE I WANT TO BRING SOMETHING NEW TO THE BLACKSMITHS, WHICH, SO WE HAVE THIS WHOLE OTHER REALM OF METAL ARTISTS AROUND HERE THAT HAVEN'T REALLY BEEN INCLUDED IN OUR GROUP, WHICH ARE LIKE THE BURNING MAN ARTISTS, THE PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR DERO, THE, THE S SCULPTURIST WHO DON'T FORGE METAL, OR MAYBE THEY DO A LITTLE BIT.
UM, BUT THEY ARE JUST AS EXCELLENT OF, UM, CRAFTSMEN WITH THAT, THIS MATERIAL.
UM, AND PUBLIC ART IS THEIR BIG THING WHERE WE DON'T SEE AS MUCH AS WELL.
SO, UM, LOOKING INTO HAVING, UH, A DEMONSTRATION BY, RIGHT NOW I'M TALKING TO SEAN PAUL LORENZ, WHO RUNS THE SUVERO STUDIO HERE AND, UM, IS RESPONSIBLE FOR LIKE, GETTING HRU SET UP AT THE PARK, BUT HE ALSO HAS HIS OWN STYLE IN LINE.
HE HAS, HE BUILDS WITH A LOT OF PIECES RIGHT NOW FROM THE OLD BAY BRIDGE.
I HELPED HIM INSTALL ONE, UH, ON, UM, TREASURE ISLAND, WHICH IS PRETTY AWESOME.
UM, AND SO I WANT HIM TO BE A DEMONSTRATOR AND SHOW US HIS STYLE BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING VERY INTERESTING AND VERY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'VE SEEN.
AND I WANT THAT TO JUST BECOME A PIECE, I WANNA SHOW THE SCALE WHAT IT TAKES TO BUILD A PIECE LIKE THAT, SO WE MIGHT AS WELL NOT MOVE IT WHEN IT'S BUILT.
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COLLABORATIVE PIECE.THE, THAT PIECE WILL NOT BE, UM, IT'S NOT GONNA BE A FUNCTIONAL PIECE LIKE A GATOR RAILING.
THIS WILL BE, UM, A SCULPTURAL PIECE AND IT'LL BE A GOOD SCALE.
UM, BLENDING PAST, PRESENT, AND FUTURE.
UM, FOCUSING ON PROBABLY ON OUR ASSOCIATION AND HOW WE'VE DRAWN FROM THE PAST, HOW THE PRESENT MEMBERS HAVE SHAPED THE MODERN FACE OF BLACKSMITHING AND TAKING IT INTO WHAT METAL WORK WILL LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE.
BUT IT WILL BE A SCULPTURAL PIECE.
SO AT THIS POINT, IT SOUNDS LIKE BECAUSE IT'S FUNDED TOTALLY SEPARATE FROM THE CITY, UM, WE DON'T EVEN NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE DESIGN RIGHT NOW.
I, I JUST NEED A LOCATION AND IF IT'S A LOCATION, THE ONES WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING, I NEED TO JUST TALK TO PARKS AND REC IT SOUNDS LIKE.
SO WHAT I NEED WOULD BE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR SITES OUTSIDE OF PARKS AND REC PURVIEW AS OTHER OPTIONS.
THAT'S WHAT I THINK I'M LOOKING FOR.
THE MAIN SITE WE'VE BEEN PUSHING FOR HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH PARKS AND REC IS, UH, WHAT WILL PROBABLY NO LONGER BE THE FOUNTAIN AT HELEN PUTNAM PLAZA.
UM, AND SO THAT'S KIND OF THE VISIBILITY WE NEED FOR THIS PIECE, WHICH IS JUST THE NAMES OF THE PEOPLE ALONE THAT WILL TOUCH IT, MAKE IT SOMETHING THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE SOMEWHERE CENTRAL.
SO I TOOK THE, THE GUY WHO'S GOING TO HEAD THE DESIGN THERE AND HE THOUGHT IT WAS AWESOME.
AND YOU KNOW, THEY'RE SAYING IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A FOUNTAIN AND FOR SOME REASON THEY SAY IT'S GOING TO BE A FOUNTAIN WE CAN BUILD WITH ALUMINUM AND BRONZE AND COPPER AND IT CAN STILL BE A FOUNTAIN.
UM, BUT THAT WE'RE ALREADY WORKING ON THAT IF THAT DOESN'T WORK OUT.
AND SAME WITH SEAN PAUL'S PIECE, THAT'S ALSO A PARKS AND REC SITE.
SO I NEED SOME OPTIONS FOR IF, IF, IF THE PARKS AND REC SAYS NO, FOR SEAN PAUL'S PIECE, WE'RE NOT GONNA DO IT BECAUSE IT'S SO BIG.
BUT FOR THIS OTHER PIECE, UM, THE, THE HEADLINE COLLABORATIVE PIECE, IF THERE'S OTHER OPTIONS, IDEAS FOR SITES THAT WE DON'T NEED TO, TO WORK WITH ANOTHER CITY DEPARTMENT FOR, THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR.
I HEARD THERE'S A ROUNDABOUT THAT MIGHT NEED AN ART PIECE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THE TIMELINE BLENDS WITH THEM BECAUSE THIS WON'T BE TILL 2028.
THERE'S THE ROUNDABOUT OVER BY CASA GRANDE SCHOOL, THAT'S A ROUNDABOUT.
UM, AND THEN I REMEMBER WE TALKED ABOUT THERE'S, UH, LIKE AN ISLAND KIND OF BY THE CREAMERY AND YEAH, IT'S A LITTLE ANGULAR SLOPE.
WHICH SEAN PAUL'S ALSO REALLY INTERESTED IN.
THE ONE THING I'LL SAY ABOUT THIS IS IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE VERY DETAILED AND SHOULD BE VIEWED UP CLOSE.
SO SOMETHING WHERE YOU DRIVE BY IT ONLY IS PROBABLY NOT GONNA BE THE BEST BET.
I ANY, ANY IDEA OF SIZE PROPORTION, WE CAN DO WHATEVER.
NOT LIKE A HU SIZE THING, RIGHT? NO, NO.
BUT IT CAN BE A SIGNIFICANT SIZE.
I MEAN, I, I KNOW WE HAVE MORE SPACE THAN WE USED TO HAVE ON WATER STREET.
UM, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS ALONG THERE.
I DON'T KNOW, THOSE 10 FOOT SIDEWALKS HAVE TO STAY CLEAR, BUT I WONDER IF THERE'S SOMETHING THERE IN LIKE THE WELL, THAT'S MY QUESTION.
THE BIG QUESTION IS IF IT'S A SITE LIKE WATER STREET OR HELEN PUTNAM PLAZA THAT'S HISTORIC AND HAS A LOT OF MEANING, THE CITY'S NOT FUNDING IT, BUT I'M GUESSING THERE'S STILL, HOW DO WE GET APPROVAL FOR A SITE LIKE THAT IF IT'S FUNDED BY US? BUT IT'S STILL SIGNIFICANT.
THERE'S, THERE'S MUCH UP IN THE AIR FOR WATER STREET, RIGHT.
BETWEEN THE BOULEVARD AND LIKE, LET'S SAY LIKE WESTERN, I WOULD SAY LET'S FOCUS ON THE OTHER PARTS OF WATER STREET.
IF IT IS A SITE THAT'S SIGNIFICANT HISTORICALLY AND SOCIALLY, IF IT'S, IS IT STILL UP TO THE PUBLIC OR IS IT JUST UP TO WHATEVER CITY ENTITY HAS THE PURVIEW? I MEAN, WE COULD MAKE A LIST OF ID OF LOCATIONS AND ASK THE CITY TO PRIORITIZE IT.
LIKE I CAN SEND IT TO PUBLIC WORKS AND TO THE PARKS AND SEE IF THEY CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION BECAUSE WE CAN, WE CAN DO THE ASKS LIKE WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW WITH ROTARY, WHERE WE WERE KIND OF LIKE, WELL, WHAT IS THE PARAMETERS? SO WHAT DO WE HAVE TO WORK WITH? SO ONCE WE HAVE A SITE, THEN WE CAN IDENTIFY ALL THAT STUFF.
I, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE REALLY WANT A LOT OF DESIGN PARAMETERS TO WORK WITH.
'CAUSE I DON'T THINK MOST PEOPLE ARE EVEN EDUCATED IN THE PARAMETERS FOR MODERN BLACKSMITHING.
WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BUILD IS SOMETHING THAT HAS NOT BEEN SEEN VERY
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MUCH.SO, BUT THE, THE PHYSICAL AND SAFETY PARAMETERS ARE SOMETHING WE NEED.
I THINK WE CAN LOOK AT A MAP AND GET A SENSE OF WHAT THE CITY OWNS.
LIKE I KNOW THERE'S, THERE'S LOCATIONS LIKE AT THE TERMINUS OF CERTAIN STREETS AT THE RIVER.
UM, I'D REALLY HAVE TO DO SOME RESEARCH LIKE PARKS, LIKE KENILWORTH PARK HAS THE GARDEN AREA, UM, WHERE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE NOT DOING THE REVITALIZATION ANYTIME SOON.
AND IT SEEMS LIKE THAT COULD BE A LOCATION.
THE LIBRARY IS A LOCATION IN THE GARDEN, IN THE LIBRARY.
THEY'VE BEEN VERY RECEPTIVE TO ART.
UM, 'CAUSE I'M TRYING TO THINK OF WHERE PEOPLE CAN SEE IT.
THERE MAY BE SOME FINER ELEMENTS WHERE, I DON'T WANT TO PUT IT YEAH.
IN THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE IF NOBODY'S GONNA GET TO SEE THE VALUE IN THAT OR IF IT CREATES A DANGER OF PEOPLE TRYING TO GO SEE IT.
AND I'D SAY I WOULD PLAN FOR, IDEALLY FOR SOMEWHERE THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO TRY TO MOVE IT BECAUSE IT, IT WILL LAST FOREVER AND IT WILL BE HEAVY AND HARD TO REINSTALL.
IT'LL BE A LOT OF PIECES PROBABLY THAT'LL HAVE TO BE INSTALLED.
EVEN IF KENWORTH PARK IS DOWN THE ROAD, IT'LL STILL HAVE TO BE UNDONE AND THAT, THAT'LL BE TRICKY.
MAYBE THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT SPOT, BUT WE CAN, UM, I CAN ASK MORE, BUT I, I WAS REALLY HOPING WE'D GET A WISHLIST TOGETHER.
I, UM, CAN YOU CLARIFY WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT WATER STREET? BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT LOCATION FOR PAST, PRESENT, FUTURE.
WELL, I KNOW THAT THERE'S A, RIGHT NOW ON WATER STREET, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, LIKE, WE HAVE ALL THOSE BUSINESSES DOWN THERE THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE BEFORE.
I'M REMEMBERING THE TWO RFPS OR RF QS AND RFPS FOR THE ARTWORK DOWN THERE.
AND WE HAD A LOT OF PUSHBACK, UM, WITH FINE BALANCE AND A LOT OF LIKE VERY INTENSE, UM, COMMUNITY BUY-IN ON THAT SITE WHERE IT COULD CAUSE DELAYS AND JUST MAKE IT WAY EXPENSIVE.
LIKE, UH, WE COULD INVESTIGATE THAT.
I MEAN, I DON'T THINK IT'S A BAD IDEA.
I, BUT AGAIN, WE HAVE TO SEE LIKE, WHAT EVERYBODY'S UP FOR.
I THINK WE ALL, WHEN AGAIN, WITH SAFETY PARAMETERS, IF IT'S MADE OUTTA STEEL, UM, DOES IT NEED TO BE A SETBACK? THAT'S WHY THE FOUNTAIN IS SO GREAT BECAUSE IT HAS A NATURAL BORDER.
THE OTHER GREAT THING ABOUT THE FOUNTAIN IS YOU HAVE OUR, OUR FIRST PRESIDENT, ROBERT INGS MADE ALL OF THE SIGN HOLDERS AND BOTH ALLEYS THAT LEAD UP TO THAT PIECE.
SO, BUT I THINK THE, UM, HAVING A BACK AND SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT'S TASTEFUL, LIKE THE EDGE OF THE FOUNTAIN, IT, IT WOULD BE GOOD AROUND A METAL PIECE.
I KNOW IT SEEM, IT SEEMS LIKE SUCH A SWEET SPOT FOR IT AND IT'S NEEDING THAT.
AND I KNOW IT COSTS A LOT OF MONEY TO REMOVE OR REPAIR THE FOUNTAIN.
THAT WOULD YOUR, WOULD YOUR PIECE INCLUDE INSTALLATION COSTS? WE'LL DO EVERYTHING.
CONTRACTORS WHO WILL HELP TOO.
AND THAT FOUNTAIN AS IT IS, DOESN'T HAVE TO MOVE.
WE CAN WRAP THE WHOLE THING IN IN RIVAGE SHEETS OF STEEL.
UM, AND, UH, IT CAN, THAT DOESN'T HAVE, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO COST THE CITY.
I'VE ALREADY TALKED TO, YOU KNOW, I HAVE, UM, ELECTRICIAN, PLUMBER, EVERYONE, IF IT'S NEEDED, THEY'LL VOLUNTEER THE, THE TIME AND THE WORK.
WE CAN INSTALL THAT THROUGH MY CONTRACTOR'S LICENSE.
AND SO WITH THE TRIANGLE PARK BY THE CREAMERY, SEAN PAUL, I KNOW HE'S EXPRESSED HE'S WANTED TO PUT A SCULPTURE THERE BEFORE I I HAVEN'T ACTUALLY LOOKED AT THE SPACE.
I CAN LOOK BECAUSE THERE, IT, IT'S A SIZABLE SPACE.
LIKE I BELIEVE THAT TWO THINGS COULD EXIST THERE.
AND ONE THING ABOUT THAT LOCATION IS THAT YOU HAVE THE CREAMERY YOU WRITE ACROSS THE STREET, SO IT FEELS OLD TIMEY IN A WAY.
IT'S JUST, IT'S GOT AN INTERESTING IMPACT THAT SITE.
AND A LOT OF PEOPLE TRAVERSE IT.
IT'S KIND OF A SPOT WHERE IT COULD OPEN ITSELF TO LIKE PEOPLE PICNICKING THERE ENGAGING.
LIKE YOU CAN CREATE SPACE THERE WITH A PROJECT.
ADDITIONALLY, IF YOU HAVEN'T HUNG OUT IN THAT AREA WITH AN SIZABLE NEW SCHOOL POPULATION THERE, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF PICNICKING HAPPENING THERE.
AND ACROSS THE STREET AT THE GREENERY, MOST PETALUMA JUNIOR STUDENTS WALK THAT PATH TO GET BACK TO DOWNTOWN.
SO IT IS A VERY, IT WAS ALREADY ACTIVE LAST YEAR, BUT THIS YEAR IT'S EVEN MORE ACTIVE.
UM, AND THEN I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY CONSIDERATION TO PLACING SOMETHING LIKE THAT AT A COMPREHENSIVE HIGH SCHOOL, BUT THERE'S A BRAND NEW QUAD AT PETALUMA HIGH SCHOOL, WHICH IS, THEY JUST CELEBRATED THEIR HUNDRED AND 50TH YEAR ANNIVERSARY.
THE STUDENTS AT CASA GRANDE HAVE BEEN WORKING TO, UM, RECREATE THEIR UNITY PLAZA.
IT'S KIND OF IN THE HEART OF THE CAMPUS, UM, AND COULD USE A BIG PIECE THERE.
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I THINK FOR SCHOOLS, WE DEFINITELY HAVE TO SEE WHAT THE SAFETY AND OTHER PARAMETERS ARE, BUT YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.AND THERE ARE CROSSWALKS TO THE TRIANGLE PARK.
YEAH, I, THERE'S A CROSSWALK AT THE CREAMERY.
THERE'S WAYS TO ACCESS IT THAT ARE SAFE FOR PEDESTRIANS.
THE OTHER OPTION, WHICH WE NEVER TALK ABOUT IS PINERY PARK.
I WAS JUST GONNA SUGGEST THAT.
I KNOW THERE'S A CANNON UP THERE.
WE NEVER TALK ABOUT IT AND IT'S, WELL, YEAH, I WONDER WHERE IT WOULD GO.
WELL PARKS, BUT OH, WHERE IT COULD GO.
THERE'S, IT'S, IT'S AN INTERESTING PARK AND WE JUST KIND OF DON'T EVER TALK ABOUT SIGHTING ART THERE.
AND IT'S RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE MUSEUM, MUSEUM FROM THE HOTEL.
IT'S SUCH A COOL PARK TO YEAH.
IT'S AN, IT'S AN INTERESTING AESTHETIC SITE BECAUSE OF THE PALMS THERE ARE THERE THAT ARE REALLY TALL.
SO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE PUBLIC ART.
IT ALSO NEVER FEELS EMPTY TO ME THOUGH, BECAUSE OF THE PLACEMENT OF THAT'S TRUE.
UM, AGAIN, WE RUN INTO NEEDING TO, TO WORK WITH ANOTHER CITY ENTITY IN THAT SPACE, SO OH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THAT AT EVERY SPACE.
THAT COULD BE REALLY COOL TOO.
ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE TALKING PAST, PRESENT, FUTURE, YOU KNOW, THIS COULD BE A NICE PLACE FOR THAT.
BUT MAYBE WE LOOK AT OUR LAUNDRY LIST OF PLACES THAT WE'VE PUT TOGETHER MM-HMM
IN SOMEWHERE IN OUR, IN OUR ARCHIVES, YOU KNOW, THERE'S PROBABLY 15 PLACES.
I FEEL LIKE YOU CAN EMAIL ME AS WELL.
WE, HE REALLY CAN'T GET STARTED DESIGNING THIS UNTIL WE HAVE THE SPOT.
SO IT'S LIKE YOU, YOU ASK WHAT SIZE CAN IT BE AND THE SCOPE.
IT'S TOTALLY DEPENDENT ON THE SPOT.
WE CAN DO WHATEVER, WHAT KIND OF THE THING WE SAY IS BLACKSMITHS, BUT PROBABLY OTHER ARTISTS, IF YOU CAN IMAGINE IT, WE CAN BUILD IT.
SO WE JUST NEED THE SPACE TO DO THAT.
LET'S PRIORITIZE THE SPACE THAT WE GOT TONIGHT.
I THINK HE DIDN'T WANT THE ROUND.
I YOU THINK YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO GET UP CLOSE YEAH.
TO SEE, BECAUSE ESPECIALLY WITH METAL WORKING, IT'S THE TEXTURING IS A REALLY BIG PART OF IT.
UM, YOU GOTTA, SO DRIVING BY, YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO.
SO WHAT WOULD BE YOUR SECOND PRIORITY? HMM.
I THINK WE SHOULD, I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK INTO, UM, WELL THE, THE ONE ACROSS FROM THE CREAMERY, PENRY AND CITY HALL ARE ALL INTERESTING, UH, IDEAS.
I'M WORRIED, BUT THE HIGH SCHOOLS, THAT STEEL MIGHT BE A LITTLE TOO UNAPPROACHABLE OR DANGEROUS.
I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING'S GONNA BE SHARP OR, BUT IT'S STILL STEEL.
UM, WELL, UM, PUT TOGETHER THIS LIST AND JUST SEE IF WE CAN GET YOU, I THINK WHAT WOULD BE BEST IS IF SINCE YOU ARE YOU, YOU'RE IN CONTACT WITH RAY, IF WE CAN GET A TEAM FROM THE CITY SIDE TO SAY WHERE YOUR PRIORITIES AND THEIRS HIT THE SAME NEXUS.
AND THAT COULD TELL US THE SPOT.
BUT I THINK MAYBE THIS IS A CONVERSATION WITH, UH, JULIA AND
AND I KNOW I'VE TALKED TO PEGGY, SHE'S BEEN VERY EXCITED ABOUT, I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT TO JUST GET A FORMAL MEETING.
I THINK THAT'S YOUR NEXT STEP.
LIKE WE CAN HELP INFORM MORE LOCATIONS.
WELL I GUESS MY, MY QUESTION, IT WAS THE SAME WITH THE PRESENTATION EARLIER, IS IF IT'S SELF-FUNDED, IT JUST SAFETY PARAMETERS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
WE DON'T NEED DES WE DON'T NEED TO GO OUT TO THE PUBLIC WITH DESIGN.
WELL, I, I DO, WE START GETTING A LITTLE TRICKY BECAUSE WHAT, WHAT WE HAVE IS WE DON'T HAVE A FUNDING MECHANISM, COST RECOVERY THAT PAYS FOR MEETING AND, AND CASE FOR ALL THAT.
SO I THINK WE NEED TO SET UP A PROCESS FOR LIKE AN INFORMED DESIGN AND REVIEW OF THE CITY.
ESPECIALLY IF IT'S POLITICALLY LIKE 12 FEET TALL BY FEET.
AND PEOPLE ARE GONNA SAY, WHO COULD THIS? WE REALLY TOTALLY.
BUT AT THIS POINT IN THE PROCESS, BECAUSE WE'RE STILL PRETTY, YEAH.
WE NEED TO SEE WHAT SUPPORT TO WHAT LOCATION.
AND THEN START GETTING AN IDEA.
WELL THAT'S A MORE POIGNANT DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY.
NOT JUST A VERY OPEN DISCUSSION WITH ANYBODY.
SO IF THAT, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL DO A FOLLOW UP EMAIL TOMORROW AND DO, I CAN HELP HAND THAT PART OF IT OFF TO YOU SO THAT WE CAN GET,
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UM, GREAT.ONE OTHER THING BEFORE I FORGET, UM, SUNDAY, THIS SUNDAY, UH, 5:00 PM IS THE DEDICATION, THE UNVEILING OF THE NEW, UH, HISTORIC CHINATOWN PARK.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT TIME THAT'S AT? FIVE.
AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THAT PROJECT.
CODY, I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN HELPFUL TO THE GROUP.
I OFFERED TO, SO MY DAD MADE THE LECTURE THAT'S THERE, THAT'S TALKING ABOUT WHATEVER THE HISTORY IS IN THE PARK, BUT I, I OFFERED TO DESIGN A MATCHING ONE TO TALK ABOUT HISTORIC CHINATOWN.
THEY POURED FOR A PLAQUE, BUT I, I WASN'T SURE IF YOU WERE INVOLVED IN THAT, SO.
WELL THANK YOU FOR LETTING US KNOW ABOUT IT.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMITTEE COMMENTS ABOUT OTHER, UM, PROJECTS OR SUBCOMMITTEES? NOTHING PARKS, UH, DID NOT HAVE QUORUM FOR OUR LAST MEETING.
SO WE UH, HAVE NO UPDATES FOR YOU.
OKAY, THEN I GUESS WE WILL BE CLOSING, UM, ITEM NUMBER SIX AND MOVING ON TO
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STAFF COMMENT ITEM NUMBER SEVEN AND WE WILL ALL BE LOOKING AT THE PUBLIC ART PROJECT MATRIX.I APPRECIATE YOU ALL HANGING IN THERE FOR THIS.
THIS IS ONE OF OUR LONGEST MEETINGS IN THE LONG, THIS IS THE LONGEST MEETING I THINK SINCE FINE BALANCE WAS ON THE DOCKET
SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU ALL HANGING IN THERE.
IT'S A LOT OF EXCITEMENT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES.
UM, AND I'LL TRY TO GET THROUGH THIS PRETTY QUICK BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF UPDATES.
UM, ADOBE ROAD WINERY IS MOVING FORWARD WITH THEIR SCULPTURE.
RYAN PETERSON IS, UM, DEVELOPING IT RIGHT NOW.
THEY, UM, HAVE, THEY'RE GONNA RESUBMIT PLANS FOR INSTALLATION 'CAUSE THEIR, UM, THEIR PAD THAT THEY HAD PUT IN THEIR, THEIR BOLTS AND FOR INSTALLATION WHERE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
SO THEY HAVE TO MOVE BACK CLOSER TO THE BUILDING, BUT THEY'RE TAKING CARE OF IT.
UM, RYAN HAS SHOWN NEW IMAGES.
I'M GONNA TRY TO PULL THOSE UP RIGHT NOW.
UM, I'M GONNA STOP SHARING SO I CAN SHOW YOU THE IMAGES.
UM, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE.
UM, THIS IS THE LATEST INCARNATION OF HIS DESIGN, SO YOU CAN SEE IT ON THE SCREEN.
UM, SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, IT'S GONNA SET BACK.
UM, THE ARTWORK ISN'T GONNA BE SO MUCH IN THE RIGHT OF WAY IN THE ORIGINAL RENDERING, IT WAS LEANING FORWARD AND SO NOW IT'S MORE UPRIGHT.
UM, FOR THOSE OF YOU UNFAMILIAR WITH THIS, THIS PROJECT WAS INITIATED WITH RYAN AND THE APPLICANT AT ADOBE ROAD, I THINK FOUR YEARS AGO, FIVE YEARS AGO.
AND SO IT'S BEEN SHELVED FOR A WHILE.
IT'S REPRESENTING THE WINE GAP REGION OF PETALUMA WINE.
THIS WAS THEIR, UM, THEIR ONSITE CONTRIBUTION.
UM, AND SO THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT.
UM, AND SO I'M IMAGINING THAT THIS GETS INSTALLED IN SPRING.
UM, THE TIMELINE HAS GOTTEN A LITTLE DELAYED.
SO THERE'S YOUR, UH, YOUR IMAGE FOR THAT.
SORRY TO JUMP THROUGH EVERYTHING.
I WANNA MAKE SURE YOU CAN SEE IMAGES WITH EACH OF THE THINGS I'M REPORTING ABOUT.
UM, AND I'VE HIDDEN MY CURSOR.
SO NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LUI PUBLIC ART PROJECT.
YOU GUYS, WE HAD A PRETTY ROBUST DISCUSSION SO WE CAN GO ON TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.
UM, THERE HAVE BEEN TWO MEETINGS THAT, UM, HAVE TAKEN PLACE SO FAR.
ONE WAS SEPTEMBER 23RD WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND ONE WAS OCTOBER 20TH WITH CITY COUNCIL AT WHICH BOTH OF THEM, THEIR, UM, CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS
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WERE MOVED FORWARD.AND THEIR SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW FOR THE PROJECTS WAS MOVING FORWARD.
THEY ARE GOING TO USE THEIR 1% ON SITE AND, UM, PAY INTO THE PUBLIC ART ART FEE, WHICH IS WELCOME NEWS WITH ANY REMAINING BUDGET.
UM, WE HAVE DESIGNATED, UH, LOCATIONS ON THE BUILDING, WHICH ARE, UM, CURRENTLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE RENDERINGS OF THE BUILDING, IT'S OUTLINED IN A NINE FOOT BY 41 FOOT SECTION, A NINE FOOT BY SIX FOOT SECTION, A NINE FOOT BY 12 FOOT SECTION, A NINE FOOT BY THREE AND FOUR INCHES AND A QUARTER SECTION.
UM, ON THE EAST WALL FACING KENILWORTH DRIVE.
THERE'S METAL FEATURES TO THE BUILDING THAT WILL BE WHERE PUBLIC ART WILL LIVE.
AND ALSO AN ADDITIONAL, UM, NINE FOOT BY NEARLY 40 FOOT SECTION, UM, UM, ON THE, THE ELEVATION FACING JOHNSON DRIVE, WHERE THE ESCAPE PARK AND SWIM CENTER ARE.
SO TO GET AN IDEA OF WHERE THE LOCATION WILL BE, UM, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH PROJECT MANAGER PAUL GOIN TO OUTLINE THE PROJECT REQUIREMENTS AND WE HOPE TO GET AN RFP RELEASED IN 2026 FOR THAT AREA.
WE DON'T HAVE THE BUDGET OUTLINED YET OF WHAT THE PAYMENT WOULD BE.
I'VE DONE SOME PRELIMINARY RESEARCH FOR WHAT IT MIGHT COST TO CONSTRUCT AN ARTWORK THERE IF IT WAS LIKE A SINGLE PANEL OUT 12 INCHES OF ALUMINUM.
AND, UM, WE SEEM TO HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE NEARBY THAT COULD, IF AN ARTIST SUBMITTED SOMETHING, WE WOULD HAVE A MANUFACTURER HERE WHO COULD DO IT AT A VARIETY OF LOCATIONS.
UM, AND SO I'VE DONE A LOT OF PRELIMINARY RESEARCH FOR IT.
I ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK AT THE, UM, MEETING NOTES FOR SEPTEMBER 23RD AND OCTOBER 20TH AND I CAN SEND YOU THOSE ITEMS ALSO.
UM, AND THEN, UM, THAT'S NOW WE'RE AT THE POINT WHERE THE NEXT PART IS THE DESIGN.
UM, THEY'RE GONNA BE WORKING MORE ON THAT AND WE WILL STAY TUNED, BUT THAT'S GONNA BE AN EXCITING OPPORTUNITY FOR US WHERE WE'LL DO AN RFQ OR AN RFP PROCESS.
UM, THEY'RE, THEY MIGHT MANAGE IT MORE ON SITE, BUT WE GET TO REVIEW THE ARTWORK.
UM, NEW UPDATES WITH RIVER ARCH PHASE TWO.
UM, LEMME SEE IF I COULD PULL MY IMAGES BACK UP FOR YOU.
HERE ARE THE REMAINING PIECES FOR THE RIVER ARCH.
JUST TO KIND OF REFRESH YOUR MEMORY.
UM, WE PURCHASED THE BENCH THAT'S IN THE TOP LEFT IMAGE FROM DAVID BEST FOR $1,200 ALMOST TWO YEARS AGO.
UM, THIS IMAGE BELOW IT IS ANOTHER ANGLE OF THAT PIECE.
AND THEN WE HAVE TWO FRAGMENTS THAT ARE UPSIDE DOWN RIGHT NOW, BUT THEY'RE REPRESENTED THE TWO PIECES THAT ARE NEXT TO EACH OTHER.
THEY SPEAK TO THE DESIGN OF THE RIVER ARCH AND THESE STILL NEED TO BE PLACED.
ALL OF THIS WAS CONTINGENT UPON THE LOT LINE OF WIZARD OF METALS WITH THE CITY OF PETALUMA'S LYNCH CREEK TRAIL.
THAT DISCUSSION HAS BEEN TAKING PLACE.
UM, THEY CAME TO, I BELIEVE, PLANNING OR IT WAS THE FIRST READING OF THE LOT.
LINE ADJUSTMENT ORDINANCE HAPPENED AT THE, UM, OCTOBER 3RD CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
THE SECOND READING WILL TAKE PLACE ON THE 17TH.
THE EXPECTATION IS TO HAVE THE LAND SWAPPED AND UM, 'CAUSE THERE'S AN AREA WHERE THE LYNCH CREEK TRAIL WAS STILL OWNED BY WIZARD OF METALS AND THERE WAS SOME DEBATE OVER THE DRIVEWAY.
THE DRIVEWAY WAS CITY LAND, BUT IT WAS THE ONLY WAY TO ACCESS HIS SITE.
AND SO THEY'VE HAD TO LOOK AT THAT AND CREATE A SWAP TO FACILITATE EVERYONE'S NEEDS.
YOU CAN GET A MORE DETAILED DESCRIPTION IN THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
UM, NOTES FROM THE THIRD, UM, ELECTRICAL UP.
AND THEN BJORN LET ME KNOW THAT THERE ARE CIP PROJECTS GOING OUT TO BID FOR ELECTRIC.
THAT WOULD TAKE PLACE FOR ELECTRIC TRAIL LIGHTING AND TRAIL IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, BUT IT WOULD BE FROM MCDOWELL TO LAKEVILLE ON THE LYNCH CREEK TRAIL AND STOP JUST BEFORE THE RIVER ARCH.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO GET THAT THING LIT EVENTUALLY AND PLACE ALL OF THIS.
UM, I'VE PUT SANDY REED IN CONTACT.
SHE'S WITH ZACH LANDSCAPING WHO MADE PLANS FOR THE SITE.
THERE'S NO SUPPORT TO FUND THAT RIGHT NOW.
AND THEY RECOMMENDED THAT WE TRY TO WORK WITH A PARTNER ORGANIZATION IF WE WANNA SEE THAT HAPPENING TO GET THE, LIKE WE GET A TEAM THAT TO HELP SUPPORT IT LIKE ROTARY OR A VOLUNTEER EFFORT
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ON REBUILDING TOGETHER'S CALENDAR, WHERE WE JUST GO AND, UM, HELP FACILITATE THIS WIZARD OF METALS.UH, NATHAN APPLE HAS SAID THAT HE WOULD HELP WITH MOVING THE PIECES.
HE'S GOT THEM SECURED ON HIS SITE ON WHAT NOW WILL BE CITY LAND, UM, SO THAT THEY'RE NEAR THE SITE.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE MOVED AGAIN VERY FAR, BUT WE JUST NEED TO LOOK AT WHERE WE'D LIKE TO CITE THEM.
AND, UM, AND I, I KNOW IT'S NOT THE BEST THING TO HEAR, BUT I FEEL LIKE IF THERE'S MOMENTUM THERE, IF SOMEBODY FROM OUR COMMITTEE WANTED TO ORGANIZE A REBUILDING TOGETHER DAY WHERE WE GET SUPPORT FROM PEOPLE WHO COULD DO SOME GRADING ACCORDING TO SANDY'S PLAN AND THEN WE CITE THE PIECES ONCE THIS FENCE CONVERSATION IS COMPLETE, WE COULD HAVE THAT WRAPPED UP AT LEAST THE OTHER PIECES PART AND CLEANING IT UP.
BJORN INFORMED ME THAT IF THERE'S ANY LEFTOVER BUDGET, WHICH HE DOES NOT ANTICIPATE, HE WOULD DEFINITELY HELP US EXPLORE HOW TO SUPPORT OUR PROJECTS DOWN AT THAT END.
AND THAT'S PROBABLY ANOTHER PHASE.
I WAS ALWAYS HOPING IT'D COME TOGETHER IN THIS PHASE, BUT IT'S JUST NOT THERE RIGHT NOW.
UM, BUT IT'S GOOD NEWS AND, UH, HOPEFULLY INSPIRING NEWS THAT THIS IS MOVING FORWARD.
IT'S BEEN SHELVED FOR LIKE A YEAR AND SO THAT'S REALLY PLEASANT NEWS.
UM, HAPPY TO REPORT THAT RYAN PETERSON AND REBUILDING TOGETHER COMPLETED THE IMPROVEMENTS AT THE KELLER STREET PARKING GARAGE.
SO I HAVE SOME IMAGES OF THAT AS WELL TO KIND OF DEMONSTRATE THE BEFORE AND AFTER WE SCROLL DOWN HERE SO YOU CAN GET A LOOK AT LIKE HOW DECAYED AND VANDALIZED THIS MURAL WAS ON THE LEFT SIDE.
AND RYAN WENT IN AND BASICALLY RECREATED IT.
HE ALSO HID THE FACE OF A CHICKEN IN HERE IN THE GREEN PAINT.
UM, HE REALLY TOOK A LOT OF PRIDE IN DOING THIS CLEANUP, UM, REBUILDING TOGETHER, PREPARED THE LOCATION.
IT'S MORE BEFORE PICTURES AND THEN THE AFTERS.
SO, UM, UNFORTUNATELY WHILE HE WAS WORKING ON IT ON THE AFTER WITH THE WHITE SWIRL, SOMEBODY VANDALIZED IT WITH SOME GRAFFITI THAT WAS REALLY, UM, OFFENSIVE AND HE IMMEDIATELY CLEANED IT UP AND MOVING FORWARD, HE'S NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THIS WALL, SO WE'LL HAVE TO PAY FOR IT.
BUT HE REALLY CARED FOR IT AND ENHANCED AREAS HE DIDN'T HAVE TO.
AND SO I WANNA REALLY THANK HIM.
HERE'S A PICTURE OF HIM AT THE SITE.
HE REALLY WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND AND, UM, I THINK HE REALLY DID A LOT TO REPAIR THE LOCATION AND REMOVE SCRAPING.
AND, UM, I'M GRATEFUL TO HIM AND I, I REALLY THINK THE COMMUNITY OWES HIM A BIG THANK YOU WHENEVER ANYBODY SEES THIS GUY ON THE STREET.
UH, SAME WITH REBUILDING TOGETHER.
SO WE'LL MOVE BACK TO OUR, UM, KENWORTH PLAYGROUND.
THE MURAL WALLS ALONG THE LYNCH CREEK TRAIL WERE PROPOSED BY NATHAN APPLE AS PART OF HIS FENCE, UM, PERMIT THAT HE WANTS TO DO.
SO NOW THAT THAT LAND SWAP IS GETTING SIGNED OFF, HE HAD APPLIED FOR A VARIANCE WITH HIS FENCING ON THE SITE.
UM, I'M NOT SURE WHERE THAT STANDS.
I KNOW STAFF COMMONS WHERE THAT THEY FELT THAT IT WAS TOO TALL FOR A NON PERFORATED FENCE.
SO WE'LL SEE WHAT WE COME OUT WITH.
BUT HE'S LAYING THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR US TO HAVE MURAL PANELS ON HIS FENCING IN THE FUTURE THAT GO ALONG LYNCH CREEK TRAIL.
I BELIEVE IT'S LIKE A COLLECTIVE 500 LINEAR FEET OF MURALS.
SO IT HAS A LOT OF POTENTIAL FOR PROGRAMMING IN THE FUTURE.
UM, THE MARY FULLER MCCHESNEY COLLECTION.
I THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE WITH ME.
I'M REALLY TRYING TO SHOW YOU IMAGES TOO.
SO, UM, WE HAVE, UH, REMAINING PIECES TO IDENTIFY, BUT LOCATIONS FOR, AND WE DO NOT HAVE THE SUPPORT RIGHT NOW FINANCIALLY TO INSTALL THEM.
BUT, UH, ROTARY COMING OUT OF THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT THE ROUNDABOUT HAS ASKED FOR A PRESENTATION OF OUR PUBLIC ART NEEDS FOR INSTALLATION.
AND I FEEL LIKE WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT ROOM THERE.
I MEAN, WE KNOW WHAT THE BUDGET COSTS TO NOW INSTALL THIS PIECE.
AT MARY COLLINS AT CHERRY VALLEY, IT WAS A COLLECTIVE $3,400, 400 FOR THE FEE AND 3000 FOR INSTALLATION BY TODD BERLOW.
WE ARE SLATED TO HAVE A PUBLIC ART, UM, RIBBON CUTTING.
AND, UM, ONCE I'M NOT SHARING MY SCREEN, I'LL PULL UP THE DATE FOR THAT.
IT WAS GETTING CONFIRMED WHILE WE WERE AT THIS MEETING BY, UM, SCHOOL DISTRICT STAFF.
UM, AND SO THAT WILL TAKE PLACE ON A SCHOOL DAY MIDWEEK AT THREE O'CLOCK AFTER SCHOOL GETS OUT.
SO SCHOOL AND STAFF CAN ATTEND.
BUT I WAS REALLY HOPING AS MANY OF US COULD ATTEND AS POSSIBLE.
AND THE DISTRICT IS GOING TO ORGANIZE THE RIBBON CUTTING, WE'LL SUPPLY THE RIBBON, THE SASHES,
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AND THE BIG SCISSORS.AND SO IF THEY WANNA HAVE SNACKS, THAT'S GONNA BE THEIR OPPORTUNITY AND WE WILL INVITE, UM, COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGER IF ONE OF THEM WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND OR ALL OF THEM.
UM, BUT THAT WAS A BIG ACCOMPLISHMENT.
IT WAS INSTALLED LAST THURSDAY ON THE FRONT LAWN OF CHERRY VALLEY.
THE PTA HAS, UH, LET ME KNOW THAT THEY'RE ALSO GONNA FINANCE THE SIGN ON IT.
AND SO THEY JUST SENT ME THE FINAL LANGUAGE AND THEY WILL INCLUDE MARY'S NAME, THE MATERIALS AND THAT.
IT WAS, UM, THE PROJECT WAS COMPLETED IN 2025 BY THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE OR THE PUBLIC ART CITY OF PETALUMA'S PUBLIC ART, UM, PROGRAM.
AND THANK YOU, I'M BLANKING OUT TOO MUCH TALKING.
UM, AND THE, UM, AND THE PTA AND THEN THE PTA'S SIGN WILL ALSO INCLUDE A SHORT LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT THIS IS ON THE, THE SITE OF THE POMO AND ME WALK TRIBES.
UM, THEN THE ART CENTER, WE, I WANTED TO THANK ANNE AND TANNER FOR THEIR EXCEPTIONAL WORK ON THAT SHOW AND MAP THAT WAS ABOVE AND BEYOND.
IT'S BECOME A REAL ASSET TO THE CITY AND I'VE SEEN THEM SHARE IT IN THEIR, IN THEIR ECONOMIC STATEMENTS.
SO THEY WERE, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE HAPPY TO POINT OUT THE PUBLIC ART ELEMENT THAT'S REALLY GROWING IN OUR COMMUNITY, EITHER BY US OR BY PEOPLE WHO NOW SEE, I MEAN, I REALLY WOULD HOPE THAT TONIGHT'S MEETING DEMONSTRATES THAT PEOPLE SEE US AS AN ORGANIZATION THAT'S PRODUCING ART AND THEY WANT TO GIVE US ART AND OPPORTUNITIES.
AND THAT IS A HUGE THING, A BIG, A BIG, UM, CHANGE.
WE'VE HAD PEOPLE OFFER US ART BUT NEVER SAY LIKE, WE'LL PAY FOR EVERY PART OF IT.
AND IT'S NOT JUST A GIFT I'M GIVING YOU THAT YOU THEN HAVE TO INSTALL AND MAINTAIN THE FACT THAT THE ROUNDABOUT WILL INCLUDE A MAINTENANCE PLAN.
ALL OF THAT IS LIKE, IT'S, IT'S SUCH A BOON AND I REALLY FEEL THAT THAT'S SPEAKS TO YOU GUYS AND THE WORK YOU'VE DONE RECENTLY TO REALLY SHOWCASE HOW MUCH ART WE HAVE AND WHAT A PRIORITY IT IS TO THIS COMMUNITY.
SO I JUST REALLY WANNA EXTEND A DEBT OF GRATITUDE TO EVERYBODY THAT WORKED ON THAT.
UM, AND THEN, UM, THE MURAL PROJECT.
SO THAT WAS WHAT WE JUST DISCUSSED WITH ASH ALSO, WHAT A COOL OPPORTUNITY.
SHE'S ALREADY TEXTED ME AND EMAILED ME WHAT'S NEXT.
SO, UM, I WANNA THANK YOU ALL AND I'M GONNA STOP SHARING FOR A SECOND SO I CAN, I THINK I HAVE A COUPLE MORE IMAGES TO JUST SHOW YOU GUYS.
UM, AND I'M GRATEFUL FOR YOU STICKING IN HERE.
IT WAS A HEFTY, HEFTY MEETING, ACTUALLY.
I ACCIDENTALLY SHUT IT WITH THE LAST PRESENTATION.
THESE WERE THE IMAGES OF THE SITES FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.
'CAUSE I WANTED YOU GUYS TO AT LEAST HAVE AN IDEA OF THAT AND I APOLOGIZE IT WASN'T ALL IN THE SAME SLIDE.
SO THIS IS THE JOHNSTON DRIVE, UM, ENTRANCE TO THE SITE.
SO THE AREA THAT'S DELINEATED IN THE NEAR CENTER WITH THE DARKER SPACE, THAT'S ALL THE BEGINNING OF AN ENTRANCE.
THE SPACE THAT'S LAID OUT AS A CANVAS ON THE LEFT SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN SHOWS THE 39 FOOT NINE INCH FRAGMENT OR, UM, PANEL BY A NINE FOOT PANEL.
HERE ARE THE, UM, KENILWORTH DRIVE PANELS THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
SO AN ARTIST WILL BE NEEDING TO CONNECT THIS TO THEIR STORYTELLING.
AND THEN, UM, THIS IS A MURAL, I DIDN'T EVEN INCLUDE THAT, I APOLOGIZE.
A MURAL LOCATION THAT THEY CREATED BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS THAT IS, UH, 21 FEET, THREE INCHES BY 12 INCHES AND THEY'RE ALREADY SITING LIGHTING FOR THIS.
SO THAT WILL COME OUT OF THEIR BUDGET TO PROJECT ON A PUBLIC ART MURAL FEATURE.
SO WE CAN, WE CAN HAVE TWO OPPORTUNITIES HERE THAT ARE PRETTY AMAZING,
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UM, AND SIGNIFICANT.AND THEN I WANTED TO JUST SHOW YOU WHAT THEIR PALLET OF MATERIALS LOOKS LIKE AND THEY HIGHLIGHT WHERE THE MURAL ART WOULD BE.
IT'S KIND OF BEHIND WHERE THE WHITE CAR IS IN THIS IMAGE, BUT I WANTED YOU TO GET A SENSE THAT THERE, CONSTRUCTION OF THE BUILDING IS CONCRETE.
THE BOARD FORMED CONCRETE THAT YOU SEE IN THE TOP WHITE IMAGE THAT'S KIND OF STRIPED IS WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT.
IT'S GONNA HAVE MORE OF A PLANK IMPRINT, SO IT'LL LOOK LIKE WOOD WITHOUT SO MUCH TEETH.
SO THE IMAGE OR WHAT WILL BE BEHIND THE PIECE THAT WILL PROBABLY COME THROUGH WHEN THE METAL WORK IS PERFORATED.
IT WILL VERY LIKELY COME THROUGH.
AND THEN WE'VE ALSO, UM, THE PROJECT MANAGER AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT A LIGHTING PLAN FOR THAT.
SO BEHIND THE METAL, THEY'RE INSERTING OUTLETS OR UM, POWER ACCESS SO THAT IT CAN HAVE A LIGHT PLAN BEHIND IT.
SO IT'S ILLUMINATED FROM BEHIND.
AND I'VE, I'VE ALSO ASKED THAT THEY HAVE THE OPTION OF HAVING IT BE A COLOR THAT CAN BE CHANGED IF THERE WERE SEASONAL ELEMENTS THEY WANTED BEHIND IT OR SOMETHING TO JUST KIND OF CHANGE IT THROUGHOUT THE TIME OF YEAR.
I, UM, THE PANELS RIGHT NOW IN THE DESIGN WILL HAVE A CANOPY THAT COMES OUT.
SO SOMETHING CAN INSET IN THERE.
THESE THREE DOORS THAT ARE SHOWN ARE, UM, DOORS THAT JUST NEED FOR ACCESSIBILITY.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE USED REGULARLY.
THEY'RE KIND OF FOR EMERGENCY EXIT EGRESS.
UM, AND THE IDEA WAS TO HAVE WHATEVER WE HAVE SPACED OUT 12 INCHES FROM THE WALL SO THAT WAY IT'S KIND OF BOXED IN AND CAN SIT IN THERE.
IT COULD BE THREE DIMENSIONAL, IT COULD BE FLAT.
UM, AND THEY, THERE ARE A LOT OF STAKEHOLDERS 'CAUSE BOTH POLICE AND FIRE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE IT TELL A NARRATIVE THAT REFLECTS, UM, THE SITE AND THE IDEA THAT PEOPLE FEEL COMFORTABLE ACCESSING THE SITE.
'CAUSE THERE'S IT'S POLICE AND FIRE.
THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS PEOPLE APPROACH IT AS FIELD TRIPS AS THE BEST DAY, THE WORST DAY.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA HAVE A LOT OF CONSIDERATIONS TO THE DESIGN, WHICH WE'LL COVER AT A LATER DATE.
UM, BUT I REALLY WANTED TO SHOW YOU WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
SO I'M GLAD YOU GAVE ME THE TIME, UM, TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF WHERE WE'RE AT.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS INCREDIBLY LONG-WINDED REPORT? NO, I'M TALKED OUT.
I I THINK EVERYBODY'S LISTENING THOUGH.
AND, UM, THE THING THAT IT MAKES ME THINK OF IS THAT AS SUBCOMMITTEES, I THINK WE ALL NEED TO KIND OF GET, COME TOGETHER AND DO SOME MORE WORK, UM, AS THIS BODY BECAUSE WE'RE NOT MEETING OFTEN AND MELISSA'S DOING AN AMAZING JOB CARRYING THE BALL IN THE BACKGROUND.
BUT I THINK IF WE CAN REALLY ACTIVATE AS SUBCOMMITTEES NOW THAT WE'VE ALL HAD OUR, YOU KNOW, BROWN ACT REVISED TRAINING, UM, WE KNOW, YOU KNOW, KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO, WHAT WE CAN'T DO, BUT I THINK THAT WOULD REALLY HELP OUR, UM, EFFICACY JUST REALLY CHARGE FORWARD.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO PUT A PLUG OUT SO THAT WE CAN ALL SORT OF, AND IT'S, WE'RE GOING INTO THAT TIME OF YEAR WHEN, YOU KNOW, SOCIAL LIVES AND HOLIDAYS AND EVERYTHING SORT OF TAKES HOLD.
BUT, UM, COMING INTO THIS LAST QUARTER AND INTO THE NEW YEAR, I'D LOVE FOR US TO GET A LITTLE MORE TRACTION OUTSIDE OF THE ROOM.
SO THANK YOU MELISSA, FOR THAT RUNDOWN ON EVERYTHING AND ALL OF YOUR WORK.
AND IF NOBODY HAS ANY MORE QUESTIONS, I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, ADJOURN THIS MEETING AT 9:00 PM THANK YOU.