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ALRIGHT, GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE TITLE AND THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION FOR THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 13TH, 2025.ANN BAKER OR PRESENT? ASHLEY PRESENT.
AND THEN WE HAVE GOT GARDY WHO JUST WALKED THROUGH THE DOOR.
UM, NOW IT'S TIME FOR A GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
DID WE GET ANY COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING? OH, NO, WE HAD NO PRIOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
AND I DON'T SEE ANYBODY HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, SO I GUESS WE CAN MOVE ON.
UM, THAT CLOSES GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
UM, NO PRESENTATIONS FOR THIS EVENING SO WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES, UM, TO THE COMMISSION.
ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE MINUTES? OKAY, I SEE NO CHANGES.
ONTO ITEM TWO, PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION.
AND I THINK PATRICK'S GOING TO START US OFF.
AND, AND THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.
UM, I DO, I DO BELIEVE THAT WE GOT A NOTE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER SHRI, THAT HE'S GONNA BE RUNNING LATE, SO HE'LL BE HERE EVENTUALLY.
BUT, UM, YEAH, SO THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE.
UM, JUST TO SET THE STAGE FOR THIS ITEM, UM, BRIEFLY, UM, THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION WAS ABSOLUTELY PIVOTAL IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CLIMATE EMERGENCY FRAMEWORK AND THE RESULTING WORK THAT CAME OUT OF THAT, WHICH WAS THE BLUEPRINT FOR CLIMATE ACTION.
UM, THAT WAS LIKE A HUGE PART OF WHAT THIS THIS BODY HAS DONE FOR A LONG TIME.
AND STAFF IS SUPER GRATEFUL FOR THE WORK THAT WAS DONE ON THAT.
UM, AS WE LOOK TO THE FUTURE OF, I MEAN, THERE'S NO LIKE CAP TO, TO KIND OF KEEP US OCCUPIED IN THE FUTURE.
SO WE KIND OF WE'RE LOOKING TO THE FUTURE OF, OF WHAT REALLY OCCUPIES THE TIME AND, AND ADDS VALUE FOR YOU AS COMMISSIONERS AND THE PUBLIC WHO COME TO SEE THESE MEETINGS.
UM, SO WE WANTED TO KIND OF LIKE LOOK BACK AT, IN, IN THE STAFF REPORT.
IT DESCRIBES THE, THE ROLE OF THE COMMISSION AND THERE'S A HEAVY EV EDUCATIONAL FOCAL POINT ON THAT.
UM, SO JUST WANTED TO, TO BRING THAT TO THE FOREFRONT.
UM, AND SO THE, THE KIND OF, THE ISSUE IS LIKE, WHAT, WHAT IS THE MAIN ROLE CONSIDERING THAT EDUCATIONAL NEXUS FOR, FOR THE, THE CAP GOING FORWARD? UM, AND SOME ISSUES THAT WE KIND OF BROUGHT UP AS THINGS THAT WE'D LIKE DISCUSSED BY THE COMMISSION IS, YOU KNOW, DO WE CONTINUE TO MEET ON A MONTHLY BASIS? UM, DO WE SWITCH TO EVERY OTHER MONTH OR QUARTERLY? UM, WHAT, WHAT ARE THE COMMISSIONERS FEELING LIKE THEIR, THEIR TIME COMMITMENTS? AND, YOU KNOW, IF WE CHANGED, WHICH IS ANOTHER QUESTION IN HERE, UM, IF WE CHANGED THE FREQUENCY OF THE MEETINGS, UM, IS THERE AN INTEREST IN THE COMMISSION HAVING LIKE AN ADVOCACY, UM, COMPONENT BETWEEN MEETINGS, LIKE ATTENDING OTHER COMMISSION MEETINGS, ATTENDING OTHER COMMUNITY GROUP MEETINGS, AND REALLY BEING THOSE CHEERLEADERS OF WHAT WE NEED TO DO, WHAT'S LISTED IN THE BLUEPRINT, UM, ACTIONS TO KIND OF BE OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY, MEETING PEOPLE WHERE THEY'RE AT, UM, TO GET THAT, THOSE ACTIONS HAPPENING.
AND THEN ALSO, UM, THE, THE THIRD POINT IN THERE IS, YOU KNOW, DO YOU WANT TO SEE THE CAC MEETINGS MORE OF A, A FORUM FOR GUEST SPEAKERS AND WORKSHOP, UM, PRESENTATIONS WHERE WE MIGHT GET MORE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE.
UM, AND PEOPLE REALLY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE GAINING THE VALUE OF FEELING LIKE THEY'RE, THEY'RE COMING OUTTA THAT MEETING WITH LIKE, OH WOW, I'M, I'M REALLY GLAD I ATTENDED, I LEARNED SOMETHING NEW THAT I HAD NO IDEA EXISTED BEFORE THE MEETING.
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT CALLERS ON ELECTRIC, UH, PANELS, WHICH YEAH, TO ME IS AN ENERGY, GEE, I REALLY, REALLY ENJOY AND, AND WOULD ENJOY THAT DISCUSSION.
UM, BUT OTHER, OTHER TOPICS, I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS COMING UP.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, UM, THE GRAZING PROGRAM IN, IN PETALUMA AND THE RESULTING CARBON, UM, SEQUESTRATION THAT THAT COULD RESULT FROM THAT, HOW IT INTEGRATES WITH OUR INTEGRATED PEST MANAGEMENT PLAN.
UM, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT TOPICS THAT, THAT WE COULD TALK ON.
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GREAT RESOURCES IN OUR COMMUNITY, UM, THAT COULD BRING A LOT OF REALLY INTERESTING INFORMATION TO THE COMMISSION AND TO THE PUBLIC.SO THOSE ARE KIND OF THE QUESTIONS.
SO MEETING FREQUENCY, UM, IF WE REDUCE THE FREQUENCY, WHAT, WHAT DOES CSE ROLE BE OUTSIDE OF THE MEETINGS? AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, DO YOU, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE THIS BECOME A FORUM FOR GUEST SPEAKERS AND WORKSHOPS? SO THAT'LL START THAT CONVERSATION AND I'M GLAD TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS ON THAT.
SO THIS IS THE TIME THAT THE COMMISSION HAS A CHANCE TO ASK QUESTIONS OF STAFF, AND THEN WE'LL DO A QUICK POP OVER TO PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN BACK TO, UM, DISCUSSION.
SO ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? YES.
ARE THERE OTHER COMMISSIONS EITHER HERE OR LIKE OTHER, ARE THERE OTHER EXAMPLES OF SOMETHING THAT ISN'T AT LEAST MONTHLY AND OR HAS A WORKSHOP COMPONENT? WELL, I MEAN, YOU, YOU THINK ABOUT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WHICH IS KIND OF LIKE THE, YOU KNOW, THE, IT'S DIFFERENT FROM THIS COMMISSION IN THAT IT ACTUALLY HAS PROJECT APPROVAL AUTHORITY THAT HAS A ROLE IN THE PROJECT DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
AND THEY FREQUENTLY CANCEL MEETINGS.
UM, THERE ARE ACTUALLY A LOT OF, UM, COMMITTEES AND COMMISSIONS CANCEL MEETINGS.
AND SO MOST OF 'EM ARE SET FOR A MONTHLY, OR EVEN PLANNING COMMISSION, I THINK CAN MEET UP TO TWO TIMES A MONTH NORMALLY, UM, THAT THEY CANCEL MEETINGS, UM, PRETTY FREQUENTLY WHEN THERE'S NOT SOME REALLY TIME SENSITIVE PROJECT THAT, THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN ON THAT.
SO I, I WOULD SAY MOST OF THE OTHER COMMITTEES AND COMMISSIONS DON'T MEET 12 TIMES A YEAR.
AND THEN THE SORT OF WORKSHOP, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THEY'LL DO A WORKSHOP, BUT IT'S KIND OF AD HOC, WHEREAS THIS IS MAYBE MORE A PLANNED SERIES OF WORKSHOPS.
UM, SO FOR, I MEAN, I, I THINK THE, THE, THE MOST EQUIVALENT, WHICH IS NOT REALLY A COMMITTEE OR COMMISSION, IT IS GPAC IS REALLY LIKE A PRESENTATION FOCUSED, UM, BODY THAT WAS ORIGINALLY FORMED BY THE COUNCIL.
UM, THEY, IT, IT HAS SUBSEQUENTLY BECOME LESS OF A BROWN ACT BODY, UM, IN THAT, UM, THEY'RE ABLE TO, I MEAN, ALL THE MEETINGS ARE PUBLIC, BUT IT'S, IT'S DOESN'T NECESSARILY REQUIRE A QUORUM.
I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S AN ACTUAL BROWN ACT BODY.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, THAT FLEXIBILITY IS, HAS, HAS REALLY PAID OFF FOR THEM AND BEING ABLE TO HAVE THOSE, UM, MEETINGS AS NEEDED, UM, AND STILL MAKING THEM PUBLIC, BUT NOT, UM, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT LESS BUREAUCRACY, UM, I GUESS IS WHAT I'D SAY.
I GUESS IF THERE'S A QUESTION TUCKED IN THERE IS, IS IF THAT IS THE CASE THAT IT'S A DIFFERENT CITY BODY THAT MAYBE HAS A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY IN THIS PRESENTATION TYPE THING, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE EVALUATED AS FAR AS SWITCHING THE FRAMEWORK OF THIS? YEAH, I MEAN, YOU CAN'T ANSWER THAT, BUT THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, YEAH.
THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD GET BACK TO YOU ON, LIKE HOW THAT KIND OF TRANSITIONED INTO A, A LESS FORMAL BODY.
UM, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT IS, THIS FORMAT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE GREATEST FOR A PRESENTATION AND WORKSHOP KIND OF SITUATION.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S GREAT IN THAT WE ARE ON CAMERA RIGHT NOW THAT THERE'S MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT COULD BE WATCHING FROM REMOTE LOCATIONS.
UM, BUT IT'S NOT REALLY AS EASY TO GET INTO THE NITTY GRITTY, UH, EXAMPLES IF THERE'S LIKE, PHYSICAL THINGS THAT PEOPLE COULD SEE YOU KINDA LOSE THAT BENEFIT FROM, FROM A REMOTE PARTICIPATION.
BUT IF, IF THAT'S OF INTEREST TO THE COMMISSION, THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD EXPLORE AND, AND COME BACK TO YOU AT A LATER MEETING ON.
I'LL LAST ONE, I'LL TRY AND PHRASE IT AS A QUESTION, I GUESS
BUT LIKE, IF A GPAC BODY WERE TO ALLOW ZOOM PARTICIPATION, AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE HUGELY EFFECTIVE IN ACHIEVING THE, THE GOAL OF AWARENESS IF THAT IS THE GOAL.
SO THAT'S A SUB QUESTION ON THE DIFFERENCE OF THE BODIES IF, IF, IF CHANGING WOULD ALLOW REMOTE PARTICIPATION IN A MORE, UH, COLLABORATIVE WAY.
SO I, I BELIEVE THERE IS A NEW STATE LAW THAT IS GOING
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TO CHANGE, UM, AT LEAST COUNCIL MEETINGS TO MAKE REMOTE PARTICIPATION, UM, REQUIRED.UH, IT WOULD NOT BE EXTENDED TO COMMITTEES AND COMMISSIONS FOR THAT REMOTE PARTICIPATION.
THE DIFFICULTY IN THAT, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE EXPERIENCED FIRSTHAND, WAS INAPPROPRIATE ZOOM BOMBING HAPPENING, HAPPENING, UM, IN THAT, BECAUSE IT'S AN OPEN PUBLIC MEETING, YOU NEED TO GIVE THE PUBLIC THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT AND NOT ALLOW, UM, YOU NEED TO GIVE THEM
THERE MAY BE DIFFERENT RULES THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO SORT THAT OUT.
SO THAT'S, AGAIN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD LOOK INTO AND GET BACK TO THE COMMISSION IF THERE'S INTEREST.
YEAH, LIKE A PRE-REGISTRATION FOR JUST PARTICIPATION POTENTIALLY.
SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH, WE WILL WAIT UNTIL THAT PUBLIC COMMENT FOR OUR COMMENTS, I GUESS IS, UH, YEAH.
'CAUSE THIS IS QUESTIONS, JUST QUESTIONS.
SO DISCUSSION THAT I THINK YOU TOUCHED ON AND, AND I I WILL ADD, MAYBE THIS IS A LITTLE HELPFUL CONTEXT.
I MEAN, THERE'S OTHER, LIKE, I THINK ABOUT THE TOWN OF WINDSOR.
THEY HAVE A MONTHLY, UM, WORKSHOP SERIES.
IT'S NOT, IT DOESN'T MEET AS A, AS A BODY LIKE THIS, BUT THEY HAVE EVERY MONTH THEY HAVE SOME SORT OF EVENT.
UM, I THINK LAST MONTH IT WAS LIKE, UM, NATIVE AMERICAN LAND USE MANAGEMENT.
UM, THAT WAS SUPER INTERESTING.
I'M, I'M BUMMED THAT I MISSED IT.
UM, BUT THEY, THEY KIND OF PICK A TOPIC EACH MONTH AND THEY KIND OF DELVE INTO THAT.
AND THAT'S KIND OF THEIR, UM, SUSTAINABILITY KIND OF WORKSHOP SERIES.
SO JUST AS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT OTHER CITIES AND TOWNS ARE LOOKING AT, WHO DOES THAT TOWN OF? WINDSOR.
UM, SO THEN WERE THERE ANY COMMENTS RECEIVED PRIOR TO THE MEETING? NOPE, NO PRIOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
ALRIGHT, THEN WE CAN OPEN IT UP TO DISCUSSION AMONG THE COMMISSION.
SO I, I THINK KIND OF THE, THE QUESTIONS ON ARE, DO WE WANNA LIKE, MESS WITH THE CADENCE? UM, DO WE WANNA BE DOING MORE SORT OF EDUCATIONAL STUFF AND ADVOCACY POTENTIAL BETWEEN MEETINGS, LIKE ATTENDING OTHER LIKE, UM, UM, LIKE COMMUNITY GROUP MEETINGS, OTHER COMMISSIONS LIKE ASSIGN LIKE A LIAISON TO GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR THE TREE COMMITTEE OR MM-HMM
RMBC, UM, OTHER COMMITTEES AND COMMISSIONS TO KIND OF SAY, HEY, DID YOU KNOW THIS THING YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS IN THE BLUEPRINT? AND KIND OF PROMOTE THAT ACROSS, UM, CCB COORDINATION.
SO WE'LL CALL THAT ADVOCACY, THAT DESCRIP.
UH, SO YEAH, I THINK THAT, UH, THERE IS A LOT OF ROOM FOR, UH, SOME IMAGINATIVE THINKING ABOUT WHAT THIS BODY CAN BE GOING FORWARD.
I THINK THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER PETERS TOUCHED ON SOME OF THOSE IDEAS AND I, I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE US TO EXPAND OUTSIDE OF THIS, YOU KNOW, FRAMEWORK BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION THIS WAY.
AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE EITHER MORE OF A WORKSHOP SETTING, UH, WHERE WE CAN HAVE MORE INTERACTIONS WITH PEOPLE AND MORE PRESENTATIONS.
UH, ONE THING THAT I FLOATED WHEN WE, WE MET RECENTLY THAT I THOUGHT, I MEAN, I, OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT IT BEFORE, BUT, UH, I THINK THERE'S ACTUALLY A REALLY GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR YOUTH COMMISSIONER, UH, OR COMMISSIONERS I SHOULD SAY, TO, TO LOOK AT HOW CAN WE WORK WITH LOCAL SCHOOLS.
I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE, UH, STUDENTS COME AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN LEARN FROM, FROM WHAT THEY'RE DOING ON THE CAMPUS, AND THE STUDENTS CAN ALSO LEARN ABOUT, UH, WHAT WE'VE DONE AS A COMMISSION IN CLIMATE ACTION.
AND, UH, I THINK IT WOULD JUST BE A COOL OPPORTUNITY FOR, UH, SOME PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT WITH, WITH FOLKS WHO ARE VERY TYPICALLY VERY INTERESTED IN CLIMATE ISSUES.
SO, UH, IT'S JUST SOMETHING TO, TO, TO THINK ABOUT.
UH, WE COULD, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE LIKE INVITE A CLASS TO COME, UH, OR IF THERE'S LIKE A GROUP ON ON CAMPUS.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE THE JUNIOR COLLEGE AS WELL IS ANOTHER CAMPUS THAT WE HAVE ASIDE FROM OUR K THROUGH 12.
SO I THINK THERE'S SOME FUN EDUCATION OPPORTUNITIES THERE, EITHER THROUGH WORKSHOPS OR, YOU KNOW, KIND OF EXPAND THE, UM, THE DEFINITION OF WHAT THESE MEETINGS DO AND WHAT THEY ACCOMPLISH.
BUT, UH, YEAH, THAT'S SOMETHING I WOULD LOVE TO SEE.
AND THEN JUST PERSONALLY, I, I GUESS IT'S KIND OF A QUESTION.
IT WAS LIKE, DOES MOVING DOWN TO TO SIX MEETINGS A YEAR, IF WE WERE TO DO LIKE EVERY OTHER MONTH, UH, WOULD THAT RELIEVE SOME BURDEN ON THE STAFF? IS THAT, IS THAT A CONSIDERATION? YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE SO GREAT ABOUT ATTENDING THESE MEETINGS AND MAKING THEM HAPPEN, AND WE KNOW THAT YOU END UP HAVING TO,
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TO WORK LONG DAYS.SO JUST SOMETHING ELSE TO THINK ABOUT.
I, I, I, IF THAT IS A QUESTION, IT CERTAINLY WOULD REDUCE THE ADMINISTRATIVE BURDEN.
UM, YOU KNOW, EVERY TIME WE HAVE A MEETING, UM, MORGAN'S TAKING THE MINUTES, WE HAVE TO PREPARE STAFF REPORTS FOR ITEMS THAT KIND OF DELVE INTO ISSUES.
SO DEFINITELY THERE'D BE A, A LESS, LESS OF A, UM, ADMINISTRATIVE BURDEN.
SO THERE'S ALWAYS KIND OF A HYBRID MODEL WHERE WE COULD CHOOSE TO HAVE FORMAL MEETINGS EVERY OTHER MONTH, AND THEN WE, IF WE ORGANIZED A SPEAKER OR WORKSHOP, WE COULD FILL IN, IN THAT OFF MONTH, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IF, IF WE AGREED ON SOME TOPIC OF INTEREST OR WE HAD SOMEONE FROM THE COMMUNITY, WE TALKED ABOUT END PHASE BEFORE THE MEETING STARTED.
SO IF WE WANTED A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THAT COMPANY TO COME AND TALK ABOUT A SPECIFIC ISSUE, YOU KNOW, IN, IN ADDITION TO THE ADVOCACY, THAT WE COULD ALSO OR ATTEND OTHER MEETINGS.
SO ALL THAT IN THE MIX, IF YOU'LL, I I'M ALSO REMEMBERING A FEW OTHER ITEMS WE TALKED ABOUT.
ONE WAS LIKE A, UH, GIVE, WE COULD POTENTIALLY GIVE OUT AWARDS, YOU KNOW, LIKE RECOGNITION OF LOCAL ACTORS, UH, IN OUR CITY THAT ARE, UH, BEING EXCELLENT CLIMATE ACTIVISTS, YOU KNOW, IN THEIR OWN WAY.
I THINK THAT'S KIND OF A FUN THING WHERE WE CAN GET THE CITIZENRY IN INVOLVED AND, UH, REWARD PEOPLE FOR DOING THE RIGHT, RIGHT THING.
UH, THAT WAS ONE, AND THEN ANOTHER THAT, UM, KIND OF CAME OUT OF OUR DISCUSSION WITH ANDREW TRIPLE AND HEATHER HINES IS, UM, ADVOCACY FOR SPECIFIC THINGS THAT OTH EITHER OTHER COMMISSION, COMMISSION COMMITTEES AND COMMISSIONS ARE DOING, OR THAT THE CITY IS DOING.
SO, LIKE FOR INSTANCE, UH, ON THE GPAC, IF, YOU KNOW, IF WE LIKE, WE LIKE WHAT IT'S DOING FOR CLIMATE, WE COULD, YOU KNOW, VOTE TO, TO SUPPORT SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE DOING, WHICH HELPS THE CITY COUNCIL HAVE THE, THE BACKBONE TO ENACT, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, THEIR, THEIR VISION FOR, UH, A MORE CLIMATE FRIENDLY, UH, GENERAL PLAN FOR THE CITY, STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO THOSE ARE SOME OTHER OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED THAT I THOUGHT WERE COMPELLING AND WOULD BE, UH, OPEN TO EXPLORING.
I, WHAT'S GONNA JUST ADD THAT, I THINK, UM, IN ADDITION TO THOSE THINGS, I THINK THE WORKING GROUPS ARE GREAT.
YOU KNOW, LIKE I'M REALLY ENJOYING WORKING ON THE CARBON QUOTE HABITAT GARDENING, YOU KNOW, I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, OTHER COMMISSIONERS ARE WORKING ON DIFFERENT WORKING GROUPS, AND I THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY A REALLY IMPORTANT PROCESS.
UM, AND SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONERS WOULD, COULD EITHER LEAD OR PARTICIPATE IN WORKING GROUPS AND WE COULD HAVE, UM, DIFFERENT WORKING GROUPS, DIFFERENT YEARS.
WE COULD DECIDE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THOSE ARE GONNA BE, WHICH, WHICH WE'VE DONE.
OR WE COULD HAVE CERTAIN ONES THAT ARE STANDING, LIKE MAKES SENSE TO ME, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT WE MIGHT HAVE ONE FOR SCHOOLS THAT WOULD BE STANDING, THAT THE, UH, STUDENT MEMBERS OR THE YOUTH MEMBERS WOULD PARTICIPATE IN.
AND THAT WOULD BE STRUCTURED SO THAT, 'CAUSE THE SCHOOLS ALREADY HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF, UM, INITIATIVES THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE ON CLIMATE, YOU KNOW, AND SO HAVING KIND OF SOLID COORDINATION I THINK WOULD BE REALLY GREAT.
UM, SO I MEAN, I, I ALSO THINK CONNECTING WITH CCBS IS PRETTY, PRETTY OBVIOUSLY NEEDED, YOU KNOW, LIKE IN TERMS OF PASSING OFF CERTAIN THINGS, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE URBAN FORESTRY PLANS AND THE BLUEPRINT, BUT THAT'S GOING TO THE TREE COMMISSION AND HAVE THEY READ THE BLUEPRINT? I DON'T KNOW.
YOU KNOW, DO THEY HAVE THE SAME UNDERSTANDING OF THE EQUITY CONSIDERATIONS OR THE TARGETS AND METRICS AND YOU KNOW, HOW IT FEEDS INTO THE OVERALL.
SO I DO THINK THAT THAT, THAT PROBABLY WE, WE SHOULD FORMALLY KIND OF THINK ABOUT WHAT COMMISSIONS AND COMMITTEES WE NEED TO BE CONNECTED WITH AND HOW WE DO THAT.
UM, I ALSO THINK THERE'S A REALLY STRONG ROLE FOR THE COMMISSION TO, UM, KIND OF ANNUALLY ASSESS WHERE WE ARE IN OUR CARBON NEUTRALITY TARGETS AND HOW WE'RE DOING IN OUR PROGRESS.
AND SO I THINK THAT THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY AT THE END OF THE YEAR FOR STAFF TO DO A DETAILED REPORT ON THE PROGRESS THAT'S BEEN MADE ON THE BLUEPRINT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING AND WE CAN ASSESS, UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE'RE, UH, HITTING, WE'RE DOING GREAT AND WHERE WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, AND THEN THAT GOES INTO THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR WORK PLAN.
PROBABLY ALSO STAFF COMES BACK AND DOES A BEGINNING OF THE YEAR WORK PLAN THAT SAYS, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE FOCUSING THIS YEAR.
THIS IS WHERE WORKING COMMITTEES WOULD BE HELPFUL.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE REALLY KIND OF STARTED THAT THIS YEAR, I THINK, UM, WITH STAFF AND CONTINUE.
UM, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE WE'RE IN MORE OF A ROLL UP OUR SLEEVES KIND OF IMPLEMENTATION KIND OF DIFFERENT PHASE, YOU KNOW, THAN WE HAVE BEEN IN WHERE WE'RE NOT SO MUCH THINKING ABOUT POLICY
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OR, UM, TARGETS.WE'RE ACTUALLY TRYING TO HELP MAKE IT HAPPEN, YOU KNOW, SO WE, I THINK CHANGING OUR FORMAT IN SOME REGARD WOULD BE GOOD.
AND I GUESS THE LAST THING I'D SAY IS THAT MEETING EVERY MONTH DOES KIND OF TAKE UP THAT ENERGY FOR STAFF AND ALSO FOR THIS COMMISSION TO ACTUALLY DO SOME WORK.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO DO WORK AND GET OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY AND SHARE WHAT WE KNOW.
AND SO MAYBE IF WE MET EVERY OTHER MONTH OR EVEN QUARTERLY, UM, YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS THE COMMITMENT IS THERE TO DO THE WORK AND NOT JUST SHOW UP TO THE MEETINGS MUCH LESS FREQUENTLY, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE COULD ACCOMPLISH MORE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND SUPPORT THESE WORKSHOP IDEAS.
IF I COULD TAG ONTO THAT COMMENT, UM, WHAT, UH, COMMISSIONER BAKER SAID ABOUT THE, UM, THAT KIND OF MORE FORMALIZED REPORT, UM, ANNUAL REPORT OR BIANNUAL REPORT OR EV TWICE A YEAR, UM, REPORT ON BLUEPRINT IMPLEMENTATION.
THAT'S KIND OF EXACTLY THE FORM THAT THE MEASURE YOU OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE HAS, WHERE THEY ONLY MEET TWICE A YEAR.
UM, AND IT'S REALLY FOCUSED ON A SINGLE ISSUE, WHICH ISN'T TO SAY THAT THAT'S ALL THAT THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION COULD DO, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE.
UH, COMMISSIONER PETERS WAS ASKING FOR OTHER EXAMPLES OF DIFFERENT CADENCES.
THE MEASURE YOU OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE MEETS VERY INFREQUENTLY AND HAS A VERY, VERY SPECIFIC TASK THAT THEY DO.
UM, SO THERE'S, THERE'S A WHOLE SPECTRUM BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, THAT AND, AND WHAT WE HAVE NOW.
AND THERE'S PROBABLY SOMETHING IN BETWEEN THAT COULD BE, I'M CERTAIN THAT THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE BETWEEN THAT COULD BE, UM, FIGURED OUT.
BUT I THINK THAT ACCOUNTABILITY ROLE, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW WE'RE DOING, YOU KNOW, WITH OUR TARGETS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT ONE FOR THIS COMMISSION.
UM, 'CAUSE I DON'T THINK ANYBODY ELSE IS IN A POSITION TO DO IT.
DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS? OKAY.
UM, I MEAN, I'M HEARING MAYBE A CONSENSUS ABOUT DOING, UH, ABOUT DOING A LESS FREQUENT FORMAL MEETINGS AND THEN HAVING THE WORKING GROUP TYPE GROUP WORK HAPPENING IN BETWEEN THOSE MEETINGS TO MORE GET OUR HANDS IN THERE, GET OUR HANDS IN THE DIRT, AND, UM, HELP MAKE THINGS HAPPEN AND BE SORT OF LIAISE BETWEEN MAYBE CERTAIN GROUPS AND OTHER COMMISSIONS, COMMITTEES AND BOARDS.
IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING A CONSENSUS ON? YEAH.
I, UM, YOU KNOW, TO TAG ONTO THE LIKE QUARTERLY MEETING IDEA AT LEAST, UM, OR LIKE UNDER MAINTAINING A CERTAIN STRUCTURE TYPE AND MAYBE HAVING A MORE INFORMAL ONE, UM, YOU KNOW, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF LIKE QUARTERLY FORMAL MEETINGS, BUT, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK THE, A ADVOCACY THING AND THAT WHOLE PIECE AND THAT HALF OF THE MISSION IS IMPORTANT, I DO THINK THERE SHOULD BE FOCUSED POLICY WORK AND LIKE VOTING, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE MORE EFFECTIVE TO HAVE THAT ON A QUARTERLY CADENCE THAN A BUY MONTHLY CADENCE.
AND YOU COULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE BRING BACK THE FOOD, WEAR ONE, ADD IN SOMETHING ON PARKING, YOU KNOW, LIKE IN ONE QUARTERLY MEETING YOU COULD HAVE TWO OR THREE PRETTY WEIGHTY TOPICS AND I THINK YOU WOULD GET JUST AS MUCH DONE, BUT WITH MAYBE MORE, MORE PARTICIPATION, SORT OF THE PARADOX OF THE INK FREQUENCY.
UM, SO THAT'S THE, MY FIRST INCLINATION IS TO HAVE LESS FREQUENT, BUT SORT OF NOT, NOT FORGET THE POLICY MAKING PIECE, YOU KNOW, AND THE OTHER PART OF IT, I GUESS, AND IN THIS WHOLE TIME, UH, STILL, UH, THE CLIMATE ADAPTATION ASPECT OF OUR MANDATE IS NOT IN THE BLUEPRINT AND NOT SOMETHING WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON.
AND SO THAT CAN BE WORKSHOPS OR WHATEVER, BUT WE DO NEED TO WORK ON CLIMATE ADAPTATION POLICIES AND OTHER THINGS THAT AREN'T JUST ADVOCACY AND EDUCATION.
AND SO, UM, I DON'T WANNA LOSE SIGHT OF THAT AND LIKE TRANSITIONING AWAY FROM A FORMAL BODY WOULD, I WOULD BE, WOULD BE RISKING DOING THAT.
BUT HAVING A FORMAL BODY THAT MET QUARTERLY THAT HAD THAT AS PART OF ITS QUARTERLY MANDATE, I I WOULD CERTAINLY BE IN FAVOR OF THAT PIECE OF IT.
UM, YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT LIKE A, A QUARTERLY MEETING.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE ALREADY DECIDED AS A COMMISSION IS THAT WE WANT TO BE, UM, IN JANUARY OR FEBRUARY PUTTING TOGETHER OUR
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RECOMMENDATIONS FOR, FOR COUNCIL'S GOALS FOR THE YEAR.AND NORMALLY THE PROCESS FOR THAT IS THAT WE BRING, YOU KNOW, BRING, WE BRING IT UP FOR DISCUSSION, AND THEN THE FOLLOWING MEETING WE MAKE A DECISION.
SO IF WE'RE ONLY MEETING QUARTERLY, HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE DO THAT? WE CAN STILL, SORRY, I MEAN, CORRECT ME PLEASE.
YOU CAN STILL MEET IN BETWEEN JUST IN A, IN A MORE INFORMAL WAY.
IS THAT OKAY? SO, SO RIGHT NOW, UNLESS THE, UM, RULES, THE, THE BYLAWS OF THE CIC ARE CHANGED, IT SAYS THAT WILL, THE BODY WILL MEET MONTHLY.
YOU COULD KEEP THAT AND THEN JUST DECIDE WE'RE GONNA CANCEL FEBRUARY.
AND, AND MARCH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OR WHATEVER IT IS YOU WANT TO BE, IT COULD STILL BE A MEETING THAT'S ON THE BOOK, BUT YOU DON'T PLAN TO MEET UNLESS, SO YOU COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE A MEETING IN BETWEEN IF YOU WANTED.
BUT, UM, EVERYBODY AGREES THAT, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA SKIP JANUARY AND FEBRUARY, OR, OR WHATEVER THE MONTH IS THAT, THAT YOU CHOOSE.
UM, MEETING INFORMALLY AS A BROWN ACT BODY DOESN'T REALLY WORK
SO YEAH, THAT'S WHERE IF, IF THE COMMISSION'S INTERESTED, WE COULD LOOK AT OTHER WAYS TO MAKE IT MORE LIKE GPAC, FOR EXAMPLE.
LIKE WHAT, WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE AND HOW WOULD THAT AFFECT THE ABILITY TO MEET KIND OF AD HOC? UH, NOT AT IMMEDIATE, NOT AT A MOMENT'S NOTICE, BUT AT, UM, IRREGULAR INTERVALS WITH PUBLIC NOTICING SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN PARTICIPATE IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING.
BUT LIKE, IT, MAYBE IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE, UH, SECOND TUESDAY OR THURSDAY OF EVERY MONTH.
MAYBE IT'S, YOU KNOW, AT A TIME OF, OF THE COMMISSION'S CHOOSING, THEY LIKE, CHOOSE THE NEXT MEETING DATE AT THE END OF THE MEETING, THERE'S OTHER OPTIONS WE COULD, WE COULD EXPLORE AND COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION.
IF THAT'S, AGAIN, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL ARE INTERESTED IN.
I, I THINK THOUGH THE, DO WE HAVE GO AHEAD, UH, OPTION TO CALL SPECIAL MEETINGS? YOUR, YOUR MIC.
I MEAN, I DO THINK THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT, UM, THAT AMY BROUGHT UP, IS THAT IT OFTEN TAKES US TWO MEETINGS TO COME TO A DECISION.
YOU KNOW, SO WE MIGHT JUST WANNA SCHEDULE TWO MEETINGS FOR THAT KIND OF WORK PLANNING.
LIKE WE MIGHT WANNA DO JANUARY, FEBRUARY AND THEN TAKE A BREAK, YOU KNOW, UNTIL APRIL, YOU KNOW, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW.
UM, BUT I WOULDN'T, WE HAVE THE OPTION TO, TO CALL A, CALL A SPECIAL MEETING.
THE ONLY ISSUE IS THERE'S ONLY A CERTAIN NUMBER OF DAYS THAT THIS CHAMBER IS AVAILABLE MM-HMM
SO IF YOU WANTED IT BROADCAST ON CAMERAS, THIS IS THE ONLY OPTION TO DO IT.
SO IT HAS TO REALLY BE BASED ON THE SCHEDULE HERE.
SO WHY DON'T WE JUST LEAVE IT ON THE SCHEDULE AS A MONTHLY MEETING AND THEN CHOOSE TO CANCEL.
WELL THE ONLY, THE ONLY BURDEN THOUGH, WOULD BE FOR THE STAFF, RIGHT? THEY WOULD NEED TO LEAVE THAT DAY OPEN FOR THEIR SCHEDULES NO MATTER WHAT.
NO, WE WOULD, WE WOULD, UH, MAKE A DECISION WELL IN ADVANCE, RIGHT.
THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA BE THAT'S FAIR IN APRIL, OR, YEAH.
WELL, IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE ONE OF LIKE, KIND OF A HYBRID APPROACH, AND I THINK YOU'RE, I THINK I AGREE THAT YEAH, THAT WOULD WORK FOR SURE.
AND FOR, FOR, TO YOUR POINT OF EFFECTIVENESS AND BEING ABLE TO HAVE A DE DELIBERATION, AND THEN NEXT MONTH YOU VOTE IS YOU COULD DO LIKE JANUARY, FEBRUARY, AND YOU VOTE IN FEBRUARY AND YOU DO, LIKE, YOU KNOW, DON'T MEET IN MARCH.
AND YOU DO, YOU DON'T MEET IN MARCH AND YOU DO, OR MAYBE YOU DON'T MEET IN MARCH AND APRIL, AND THEN YOU DO MAY, JUNE AND YOU VOTE IN JUNE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
WHERE, WHERE, WHERE YOU HAVE TWO BACK, BACK-TO-BACK MEETINGS AND AT THE FIRST MEETING, YOU, YOU BRING SOMETHING UP THAT, YOU KNOW, AND IT MAYBE IT'LL COME OUT OF HIS LIKE EV WORKING GROUP AND HE'LL SAY, THIS IS WHAT I WANNA DO FOR THE E THREE EVS.
THEN YOU DISCUSS IT IN, UH, LET'S SAY JANUARY, AND THEN FEBRUARY YOU COME BACK, YOU'VE, YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO THINK ABOUT IT AND THEN YOU CAN VOTE.
IS THAT, IS THAT KIND OF WHAT YOU'RE ENVISIONING OR, I, I WASN'T ENVISIONING, I WAS JUST BRINGING UP A PROBLEM OR JUST A, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
OR, OR I GUESS IS THAT, IS THAT QUESTION, WOULD THAT ADDRESS THE, THE ISSUE FOR YOU? IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD, AND THEN ALSO IS THERE A PROCESS REQUIREMENT THAT WE, OR IT MIGHT JUST BE OUR PREFERENCE, I GUESS, THAT WE, THAT WE DO IT THAT WAY WHERE WE HAVE THE DISCUSSION FIRST AND THEN COME BACK AND VOTE.
IS THAT A REQUIREMENT? UH, NO.
I MEAN, EVEN IF YOU PLAN TO HAVE IT LIKE IT, IT DEPENDS ON HOW IT'S AGENDIZED.
SO THERE'S THAT, UM, IF YOU JUST PUT ON THE AGENDA AS A DISCUSSION AND YOU'RE NOT GONNA TAKE ANY ACTION, THEN YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO, EVEN IF YOU ALL MIRACULOUSLY CAME TOGETHER AND DECIDED, OH, THIS IS DEFINITELY THE ROUTE THAT WE WANT TO GO.
I MEAN, WE COULD AGENDIZE IT FOR DISCUSSION AND, AND, AND OR ACTION.
AND SO YES, YOU COULD, YOU COULD DO IT THAT WAY WHERE THERE'S ONE MEETING, YOU JUST, THIS IS JUST INFORMATIONAL AND THE NEXT ONE, THIS IS WHERE WE WANNA MAKE A DECISION.
UM, OR YOU COULD TRY TO BUILD YOURSELF THAT FLEXIBILITY IN ONE MEETING.
SO I, I THINK THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, YES, YOU CAN CREATE, UH, A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT, UH, SOLUTIONS TO THAT PROBLEM.
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OKAY.AND SO THEN IT'S JUST A QUESTION OF WHAT IF WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION, GO AWAY, THINK ABOUT IT, COME BACK AND MAKE A DECISION, IT'S KIND OF WORKED.
UH, MAYBE JUST COMMENT, UH, ON THAT AND MAYBE PROVIDE A LITTLE BACKGROUND CONTEXT.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CHANGING POSSIBLY THE FREQUENCY AND FORMAT OF THE MEETING.
I THINK EVERYONE IS GENERAL ALIGNMENT THAT A NON MONTHLY CADENCE IS PLENTY FINE, EITHER BIMONTHLY OR LESS FREQUENTLY.
THERE WAS ALSO SOME DISCUSSION OF CHANGING THE BODY, SO IT COULD BE MORE LIKE THE GPAC, SO THAT THERE COULD BE MORE WORKING GROUP TYPE COLLABORATION AND POSSIBLY REMOTE PARTICIPATION FROM THE PUBLIC VERSUS REQUIRED IN PERSON.
UM, AND THEN I HAD SUGGESTED MORE OF, AT LEAST RATHER THAN BIMONTHLY QUARTERLY, WHERE IT'S MORE OF A FORMALIZED IZED MEETING, NOT A WORKSHOP.
AND THEN THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT, WELL, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES IT, WE DO STUFF IN A TWO MEETING CADENCE.
AND SO THEN TO RESPOND TO THAT, I WOULD JUST SAY, IF YOU LOOK AT THE CITY COUNCIL, LIKE VERY RARELY DO THEY HIT A TOPIC IN TWO MEETINGS.
IT'S USUALLY ONE MEETING AND THE WORK IS DONE BEFORE THE MEETING.
YOU KNOW, AND THE, AND THERE'S A LOT OF WORK DONE, AND THEY CAN TAKE A COUPLE HOURS, BUT YOU WORK ON IT AND YOU VOTE ON IT.
AND THIS, LIKE, LET'S TALK ABOUT IT.
LET'S GO THINK ABOUT IT AS THAT IS NOT HOW I PERSONALLY SEE IT BEING EFFECTIVE.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED TO DO THE HOMEWORK AHEAD OF TIME.
THE INFORMATION NEEDS TO BE CLEAR, YOU KNOW, AND TO THE EXTENT WE'RE VOTING ON SOMETHING OR NOT, I DON'T EVEN NECESSARILY THINK WE NEED FORMAL RESOLUTIONS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
OR MORE LIKE THE GPAC WHERE IT'S A CONSENSUS OR DIRECTION.
AND SOMETIMES THERE'S MIXED DIRECTION.
AND THAT, YOU KNOW, WOULD BE, TO ME, A LOT MORE EFFECTIVE TO HAVE THAT CONCENTRATED FOCUSED EFFORT BECAUSE AS SOON AS YOU'RE LIKE, ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GONNA WORK ON THE EV CHARGING REQUIREMENTS FOR NEW DEVELOPMENTS, YOU KNOW, AND AT THE FIRST MEETING WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT STUFF AND AT THIS, AND THEN IT'S LIKE, YOU'RE A DEVELOPER, YOU'RE NOT GONNA GO TO EITHER MEETING OR YOU MIGHT SKIP ONE.
OR LIKE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TIME TO DO THE TWO MEETING THING.
AND IN THE CITY COUNCIL, EVEN THE MOST MEATY TOPICS, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE, THE OVERLAY ZONE WAS, I DON'T KNOW, AT MOST LIKE FOUR MEETINGS OVER THE WHOLE THING, YOU KNOW, AND MORE LIKE ONE OR TWO MEETINGS FOR SUCH AN IMPORTANT TOPIC.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK ANY OF OUR TOPICS ARE GONNA BE AS CONSEQUENTIALLY AT LEAST IMMEDIATELY.
AND SO, UM, I PERSONALLY THINK WE CAN GET THE WORK DONE IN ONE MEETING, SO.
THE, UH, WELL THANK YOU FOR BEING, UH, I FINALLY GOT HERE.
I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE HOUSING MEETING I WAS JUST AT.
UM, BUT OH WAIT, WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF SOMETHING ELSE.
UM, JUST WHY I'M LATE COMING FROM ANOTHER MEETING.
UM, THE, UM, FOR THE DISCUSSION ON THIS THING IS HOW OFTEN MEET AND WHAT TO DO.
JUST A REMINDER OF THE ORIGINAL PURPOSE OF THIS GROUP WAS TO ENSURE PRETTY MUCH THAT THE CLIMATE ACTIONS GOT INCORPORATED, WHICH WE DID IN BLUEPRINT, BUT ALSO TO MAKE SURE THEY ALSO GET INCLUDED IN THE GENERAL PLAN.
AND THEN ALSO TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THE CITY POLICIES WERE FOLLOWING AND MOVING FORWARD IN THAT DIRECTION.
DO WE FEEL LIKE WE'VE REACHED THAT GOAL? DO WE FEEL LIKE WE HAVE NOT, UH, WE, UH, THAT THE INPUT, WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE NEW INPUT TO GIVE IN.
UM, BUT I SEE THE OPPORTUNITIES COMING UP WITH THE GENERAL PLAN LAND USES COMING UP NEXT, AND THEN THIS NEXT YEAR WE NEED TO GET IT DONE.
AND SO THERE'S GONNA BE A HUGE REVIEW PROCESS ONCE WE SEE THE FIRST ACTUAL DRAFT COMING UP THIS NEXT YEAR, WHICH IS GONNA BE A HUGE TOPIC.
DID WE INCORPORATE ALL THE CLIMATE ACTIONS THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE INTO THE GENERAL PLAN THIS NEXT YEAR? THAT'S GONNA BE A FAIR AMOUNT OF WORK COMING UP.
SO, UM, WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE PREPARED WITH OTHER THINGS THAT WE WANNA START WORKING ON LITTLE WORKSHOPS SUCH AS EV LIKE WE DID IN THE AD HOCS THAT WE'RE DOING NOW, UH, WHETHER TO BREAK THAT UP INTO LONGER PERIODS BETWEEN MEETINGS AND THEN HAVE WORKSHOPS IS, IS, UH, HOW THIS GROUP WANTS TO WORK.
BUT I JUST THOUGHT I'D JUST THROW THESE THINGS OUT FOR WHAT IT IS YOU WANNA DO SHORT TERM AND THEN OVER THIS NEXT YEAR IN 2026, WHAT'S COMING UP AND, UM, IS THERE OTHER THINGS THAT COULD BE DONE THAT WE'RE NOT DOING NOW? UM, LIKE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, UM, UH, THERE, ONE OF THE SESSIONS THAT I JUST HAD WAS, IT'S NOT WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
WHAT IS IT YOU'RE NOT DOING THAT YOU NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT? IS THERE STUFF THAT WE'RE NOT DOING THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING? 'CAUSE WE HAVE FOLKS ON THE OUTSIDE THAT HELPED MAKE THIS
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HAPPEN, MAKE THIS COMMISSION HAPPEN.SO HAVE WE ACCOMPLISHED EVERYTHING? HAVE WE TALKED TO THEM AND SAY, OKAY, ARE HAVE WE ALREADY MET THE GOALS THAT WE'RE SET UP ORIGINALLY ARE, ARE THEY, ARE WE DONE OR ARE IN PROGRESS? AND, UH, CAN WE KIND OF, OKAY, CAN WE MOVE ON AND OR IT'S BEING HANDLED PROPERLY BY STAFF, OR ARE WE NOT NEEDED ANYMORE? SO I JUST PUT THOSE QUESTIONS OUT THERE TO SEE HOW YOU GUYS FEEL ABOUT OUR ORIGINAL PURPOSE.
I, YOU KNOW, UH, IRONICALLY WE DID TOUCH A BIT ON THAT, UH, WHEN YOU WERE, WHEN YOU WEREN'T HERE, BUT I, I POINT IS DEFINITELY WELL TAKEN.
AND I THINK, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I, I TOOK AWAY FROM A RECENT MEETING WITH, UH, UH, THE ANDREW TRIPLE AND HEATHER HINES, UH, IS THAT, YEAH, THERE IS DEFINITELY A ROLE FOR CLIMATE ACTION ON AFFIRMATIVE, UH, SUPPORT FOR WHAT THE CITY'S DOING AS IT RELATES TO, UH, THE GPAC AND OTHER, OTHER COMMISSIONS AND JUST THINGS THAT THE CITY STAFF IS DOING TO, UH, EXPRESS OUR SUPPORT OR ACTUALLY BE OUT IN THE PUBLIC, GO TO OTHER MEETINGS, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
SO I DEFINITELY SEE A LOT OF, UH, THE KIND OF INITIATIVE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BEING IMPORTANT, AND WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT, DOING THAT WORK IN THE UPCOMING YEAR.
UH, SO ANYWAYS, YEAH, JUST, JUST LETTING YOU KNOW, WE DID, WE DID TALK ABOUT THAT A BIT.
AND, UH, AND, AND SO, UM, IF YOU HAVE MORE SPECIFIC IDEAS OF HOW TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU WANT ACCOMPLISH, THOSE KIND OF THINGS, I THINK THIS WOULD BE A GOOD TIME.
UH, BUT, YOU KNOW, YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO, TO LET YOU KNOW, WE, WE WERE, WE AT LEAST TOUCHED ON IT.
SO THE, THE THING IS, UM, WE'VE MADE THE, THE BLUEPRINT AND THOSE ARE THINGS THERE, UH, NOW IS THERE FOLLOW-UPS? SHOULD WE AS A GROUP BE FOLLOWING UP AND SAYS, OKAY, LET'S START MAKING THESE THINGS HAPPEN OR NOT, AND START TRACKING THINGS AND DIVIDE UP THAT WORK TO SUPPORT STAFF.
NOW, DO WE, SHOULD WE LEAVE IT TO STAFF TO, TO CONTINUE? OR DO WE ACTUALLY SIT, SIT UP AND SAYS, OKAY, WE'RE, WE'RE ALSO PRETTY MUCH EXPERTS, HAVE A LITTLE BIT EXTRA TIME, WE NEED TO STEP IN AND START DOING THE THINGS THAT, UM, AND HELPING STAFF GET SOME OF THESE THINGS DONE.
SO THAT'S ALL DONE OUTSIDE OF THIS ACTUAL MEETING, BUT ACTUALLY, UH, UM, SO WHETHER TO IMPLEMENT THE A TP PLAN, WHETHER TO IMPLEMENT EV CHARGING, WHETHER TO START WRITING GRANTS, ARE WE GONNA ACTUALLY START DOING WORK? ARE WE HERE JUST TO SET A LITTLE BIT OF POLICY AND, AND TELL STAFF HOW TO MOVE FORWARD? SO THAT'S JUST, WHERE ARE WE AT IN THAT AREA? YEAH, I THINK WE DO, I I, I'M GETTING A CONSENSUS THAT WE DO FEEL LIKE THE ADVOCACY WORK IS IMPORTANT GOING FORWARD.
LIKE THAT'S ONE OF OUR MAIN THINGS.
AND, AND THEN SORT OF THE, THE WORKSHOPS, WELL, SORRY, NOT WORKSHOPS.
WE WERE CALLING THEM WORKING GROUPS, UM, YOU KNOW, AD HOCS AND WORKING GROUPS BEING PART OF THAT BEING, UM, YOU KNOW, GOING TO THE G PAG MEETINGS AND YOU KNOW, GOING, TALKING TO THE GROUPS THAT ARE DOING THE WORK, YOU KNOW, TO KIND OF LIAISE, BUT THEN ALSO TO, YOU KNOW, HELP MOVE IT FORWARD.
SO YES, I THINK, I MEAN, I, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE HAVE A CONSENSUS THAT THAT IS WORK THAT WE FEEL WE SHOULD BE DOING IS OH, GOOD.
SO EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T HAVE TO MEET EVERY SINGLE MONTH, RIGHT.
WHICH I SORT OF AGREE WITH, WITH, UH, BEN, UM, BUT WE SHOULD BE WORKING EVERY MONTH DOING SOMETHING.
UH, SO WE SHOULD HAVE ASSIGNMENTS AND PROPOSALS AND GOALS SET UP WITH, AND WE IMMEDIATELY SET UP SOME MEETINGS BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.
MAYBE NEXT MEETING WOULD BE SETTING UP THOSE THINGS.
WHO'S GONNA DO WHAT OVER THIS NEXT YEAR? AND, UH, IF WE SET THAT UP AND THEN WE CAN SAY, OKAY, WELL THEN, THEN COME BACK AND GO DO THE WORK AND COME BACK IN TWO MONTHS, THREE MONTHS, AND LET'S SEE WHAT, WHERE WE'RE AT.
AND THAT WAS PART OF, I THINK WHY WE WERE THINKING WE SHOULD MAYBE MEET LESS FORMALLY SO THAT WE CAN USE MORE TIME OUT.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL VOLUNTEERS, MORE TIME OUT THERE ACTUALLY DOING, HELPING WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION INSTEAD OF JUST SITTING HERE TALKING ABOUT WHATEVER THE, THE PROBLEM WE RUN INTO, SO I'VE SEEN, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN ON SEVERAL COMMITTEES, IS THAT WHEN, WHEN YOU DON'T MEET AS OFTEN AND YOU HAVE SOME WORK THAT SOME HOMEWORK, THE HOMEWORK GETS DONE TO TWO WEEKS BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING.
UH, SO BY HAVING MONTHLY MEETINGS AND SAYING, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA SIT DOWN AND YOU'RE ASSIGNED TO DO THIS WORK, AND YOU'RE GONNA REPORT OUT THIS MONTH AND YOU'RE GONNA REPORT OUT THIS MONTH AND YOU'RE GONNA REPORT OUT THAT MONTH SO THAT EVERY MONTH SOMETHING GETS DONE AND WE ACTUALLY LEARN WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS.
SO HOWEVER THIS GROUP WANTS TO WORK IN THAT AREA, BUT THE CONCERN I WOULD HAVE IS, UM, THINGS WOULD NOT OKAY IF TWO MONTHS, NOBODY WOULD DO ANYTHING FOR TWO MONTHS.
AND THEN FINALLY SOMEONE DOES SOMETHING IN A MONTH AND THEN, THEN IT HAPPEN AGAIN.
SO THAT'S THE, THE RISK YOU HAVE WITH INFREQUENT MEETINGS, UNLESS YOU HAVE THE GROUPS THAT ARE DEDICATED TO REALLY WORKING IN BETWEEN.
ANYWAY, JUST THOSE, THOSE WARNINGS THERE WHEN YOU SET IT UP.
UH, AND, UH, SO MAYBE THIS NEXT MEETING DECEMBER, START THINKING ABOUT HOW TO ACTUALLY DO THAT AND WHO'S GONNA DO WHAT THIS NEXT YEAR? OH, JUST, UH, I THINK YES, I, I AGREE IT'S A RISK, BUT I ACTUALLY, I, I
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WAS SOMEWHAT CONVINCED BY, UH, COMMISSIONER PETERS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD QUARTERLY FORMAL MEETINGS WHERE THE WORKING GROUPS WOULD BRING SOMETHING TO, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY YEAH.THEY, THERE WOULD BE NOTICE THAT WOULD GO OUT BEFORE THEN THAT LIKE, HEY, THIS IS WHAT'S GONNA BE CONSIDERED AND IT WOULD BE CLEAR WHAT WHAT'S BEEN CONSIDERED.
AND THEN BY THE TIME WE GET TO THAT QUARTERLY MEETING, THERE MAY BE A VOTE AND YOU NEED TO BE PREPARED.
UH, I THINK IS, I THINK IT'S FAIR.
UM, YOU, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T KNOW.
I'M OKAY WITH A QUARTERLY FORMAL MEETING AND THEN WORKSHOPS IN BETWEEN AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, OPEN TO EVERYONE ELSE'S THOUGHTS.
SO TO, JUST TO CLARIFY THEN, IN THE, IN THE CASE THAT WE'RE MEETING LESS FREQUENTLY, LIKE EVERY TWO MONTHS OR THREE MONTHS, AND WE'RE COMING TOGETHER TO VOTE ON STUFF, THE FACILITATION OF THAT INFORMATION, LIKE LET'S SAY, UM, COMMISSIONER GARDY IS DOING WORK WITH THE EV CHARGERS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, UM, THEN WHATEVER INFORMATION YOU'RE PUTTING TOGETHER GOES TO THE STAFF TO, TO GIVE TO US AND LET, RIGHT? YEAH, THAT'S CORRECT.
AND I GUESS WE WOULD WORK WITH STAFF.
THEY WOULD BE VETTING EVERYTHING.
THEY WOULD BE PUTTING IT IN, YOU KNOW, FORMAL, UH, YOU KNOW, IN A WAY THAT WE CAN VOTE ON IT.
SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S COHERENT
I, I GUESS I'LL POINT OUT, I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS, BUT WE DO ATTEND WORKING GROUP MEETINGS AS WELL, UM, RIGHT NOW.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S NOT AN ADDITIONAL TASK FOR US.
WE ARE STILL, I THINK DEB'S EVEN ORGANIZING SOME OF 'EM.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF AN INTERESTING PERSPECTIVE.
LIKE THE QUARTERLY MEETINGS SOUND APPEALING, BUT I ALSO KIND OF DO RECOGNIZE THAT WE OFTEN TAKE A COUPLE MEETINGS TO, TO MAKE A DECISION.
AND SO I WONDER IF WE COULD DO SOMETHING THAT'S MORE OF A HYBRID WHERE WE MEET JANUARY, FEBRUARY, THEN WE WORK FOR JANUARY, WE MEET FEBRUARY, WE MEET, FIGURE OUT OUR WORK PLAN FOR THE YEAR, AND THEN WE HAVE A WORK SESSION OF LIKE THREE MONTHS WHERE WE DON'T MEET, AND THEN WE MEET AGAIN JUNE IN JULY.
AND THEN WE HAVE A SECOND WORK SESSION FOR THREE MONTHS WHERE WE DON'T MEET, AND THEN WE MEET AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
SO ESSENTIALLY BE LIKE FIVE MEETINGS, BUT WE'D GIVE OURSELVES TIME TO, TO, TO WORK TOGETHER AS A GROUP, YOU KNOW, IN TWO MEETINGS IN SUCCESSION, WHICH I FEEL LIKE IS HELPFUL IN TERMS OF UNDERSTANDING WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE SAYING.
AND IT ALSO GIVES US, THE FIRST MEETING COULD BE MORE IN INFORMATIONAL, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE'RE REPORTING OUT FROM OUR GROUP AND PROVIDING INFORMATION.
AND THE SECOND MEETING IS MAYBE MORE POLICY ORIENTED.
UM, SO I KNOW THAT'S KIND OF AN UNUSUAL IDEA, BUT I WONDER IF THAT MIGHT WORK FOR OUR GROUP ROOT I'LL, I'LL MAYBE JUST CLARIFY WHEN I SAY QUARTERLY MEETINGS, IT'S LIKE MEETINGS OF THE BODY MEETINGS WITH A CAPITAL M AND SOMEWHAT CONDITIONED ON MY, AT LEAST MY PREFERENCE FOR QUARTERLY MEETINGS IS THAT THEY WOULD BE GPAC STYLE, NOT FORMAL MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLY EVEN MONTHLY OR WHATEVER, BUT THAT THEY DIDN'T NEED TO BE IN THIS ROOM AND THAT THEY COULD BE DONE REMOTELY WITH REMOTE PARTICIPATION.
AND IF THAT WERE POSSIBLE, THAT'S SORT OF WHY I WOULD BE OKAY WITH QUARTERLY MEETINGS.
AND SO THAT'S TWO TYPES OF MEETINGS.
AND THERE WAS A QUESTION THERE IS, IS THAT SET UP OKAY.
BUT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT GETTING INTO THE WEEDS OF LIKE TWO FORMAL MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, VERSUS LIKE ONE FORMAL, YOU KNOW.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE THE INFORMATION TO SPEAK TO THAT, BUT LIKE, AS FAR AS THE SCHEDULE GOES, I LIKE THE SCHEDULE, BUT LIKE, I DON'T PERHAPS LIKE THAT THERE ARE LIKE TWO FORMAL MEETINGS IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY IN THIS ROOM WITH ALL THESE PEOPLE.
UM, ESPECIALLY THE FIRST ONE, YOU KNOW, AND SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF CLARIFICATION.
SO IF, IF THAT'S, IF, IF THEY'RE, AGAIN, THIS IS THE WHOLE COMMISSION OR AT LEAST THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMISSION, UM, IS INTERESTED IN THAT KIND OF FLEXIBILITY, WE CAN EXPLORE DIFFERENT MODELS THAT WOULD ALLOW THAT FLEXIBILITY.
UM, I DON'T THINK THAT YOU CAN, AS IT'S CURRENTLY IS, HAVE A MODEL WHERE YOU ARE A FORMAL BROWN ACT BODY OF THIS MEMBERSHIP, THIS COMPOSITION THAT MEETS FORMALLY IN THIS ROOM, BUT THEN ALSO SEPARATELY IN A LESS FORMAL MEETING SOMEWHERE ELSE WHERE IT'S NOT TELEVISED, IT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, BUT IT'S NOT, IS NOT PARTICIPATION FROM EVERYWHERE.
I DON'T THINK THIS WHOLE BOARD COULD MEET IN THAT WAY BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE A PUBLIC MEETING THAT'S NOT CONDUCTED UNDER THE BROWN ACT.
SO, SO IF, IF THERE IS THAT REALLY, IF THE FLEXIBILITY
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IS THE THING THAT YOU'RE THE MOST INTERESTED IN, WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT OTHER MODELS.AND I'M, I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON THAT.
I'D HAVE TO TALK WITH OUR LEGAL COUNSEL ABOUT WHAT MAYBE, MAYBE THE GPAC MODEL WOULD BE THAT WAY.
UM, WHAT, SO, SO YEAH, I, I THINK IF YOU, IF YOU HELP US FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU WANNA DO, WE'LL TRY AND FIGURE OUT HOW, UM, WE MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
AND IT DOESN'T, AGAIN, THAT WON'T BE A, THE DECISION WE MAKE HERE TODAY, BUT JUST LET US KNOW THE KIND OF MODELS YOU'RE INTERESTED IN AND WE'LL, WE'LL COME BACK AT A LATER MEETING.
I WOULD ARGUE AGAINST THE BODY GIVING UP ITS FORMAL RULE AS A, YOU KNOW, AS DEFINED BY THE COUNCIL AS A, UM, COMMISSION.
YOU KNOW, I WOULD ARGUE AGAINST BEING A, LIKE A GPAC BODY THAT'S AN INFORMAL ADVISORY BODY.
'CAUSE I DO THINK THAT WE DO HAVE AN INSTITUTIONAL ROLE TO, UM, MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE HEADING TOWARD OUR CLIMATE TARGETS AND ACTUALLY MAKING PROGRESS.
IF THAT'S ALL WE DO, YOU KNOW, IS KIND OF ASSESS HOW WE'RE DOING, YOU KNOW, AND WE DO NO OTHER WORK.
I STILL THINK WE SHOULD STAY AS A COMMISSION AND KEEP OUR FORMAL FORMAL ROLE.
AND, BUT I DON'T SEE WHY WE COULDN'T HAVE, UH, WORKSHOPS OR EVENTS THAT ARE KIND OF CO-SPONSORED IN A WAY BY THE COMMISSION.
KIND A LA THE WINDSOR PROGRAM WHERE WE'RE WORKING WITH STAFF TO DEVELOP PROGRAMMING THAT'S INFORMATIONAL AND ENGAGED.
UM, SO WE ARE A COMMISSION AND NOT A COMMITTEE.
UM, SO THIS IS WHERE I'D GO BACK TO STAFF AND ASK THE QUESTION OF, OKAY, WE DO HAVE THE BLUEPRINT, THE GENERAL PLAN IS IN PROGRESS, AND WE HAVE SOME ORDINANCES THAT WE HAVE WORKED ON THE PLASTICS, MAYBE, UH, WHAT'S COMING UP.
UM, THERE MAY BE SOME TREE ORDINANCES, THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER THINGS COMING UP.
MAYBE SOME E-BIKE ORDINANCES THAT ARE ALL RELATED TO, UH, CLIMATE CHANGE ACTIONS THAT WE NEED TO REVIEW.
SO THE WORK THAT NEEDS TO GET DONE, UM, FROM STAFF'S POINT OF VIEW, HOW CAN THIS BODY, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM US TO, TO, TO ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT THE GENERAL PLAN, TO REVIEW THE, UH, I MEAN TO IMPLEMENT THE BLUEPRINT, TO LOOK AT THE GENERAL PLAN AND REVIEW IT AND ALSO GO OVER ORDINANCES.
WHAT WOULD YOU NEED FROM US? WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM US TO CARRY ALL THAT FORWARD? OR IS IT ALREADY IN PLACE? DO YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE JUST, JUST WORKING ON YOUR OWN WITHOUT OUR INPUT ONCE EVERYBODY, UH, THREE, FOUR MONTHS? CAN YOU GET THAT DONE OR DO YOU NEED OUR INPUT MORE FREQUENTLY?
UM, I, I NEED TO THINK MORE ABOUT HOW TO ANSWER THAT.
UM, NO, IT'S A TOUGH QUESTION.
I'M, I'M ASKING FOR, FOR, UM, FROM YOUR POINT OF VIEW, UH, YOUR FUNCTIONALITY TO GET THE WORK DONE THAT YOU'VE BEEN ASKED TO DO BY COUNCIL MM-HMM
AND THIS IS AN ADVISORY BODY BASICALLY TO, TO MAKE HELP YOU GET THAT DONE.
WHAT, WHAT IS IT GONNA TAKE TO MAKE THESE TO START IMPLEMENTING? YEAH.
SO WHAT DO HELP DO YOU NEED FROM US TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN? SO I, I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO SAY WE ARE WORKING ON IMPLEMENTATION ON A MAJORITY, IF NOT ALMOST ALL OF THE BLUEPRINT ITEMS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED FOR, FOR WORK IN THIS YEAR.
UM, AND I THINK BEFORE YOU GOT HERE, THERE WAS A TALK ABOUT A REGULAR UPDATE TO THE CAC OF BLUEPRINT BLUEPRINT IMPLEMENTATION MAYBE TWICE A YEAR OR ONCE A YEAR.
LIKE WHAT DID WE ACCOMPLISH IN THE PAST SIX OR, OR 12 MONTHS? UM, I MEAN CERTAINLY THE FEEDBACK THAT, THAT WE GOT FROM THE EMERGENCY FRAMEWORK AND THE BLUEPRINT FROM THIS COMMISSION WAS INVALUABLE AND IT HELPED MAKE IT THE STRONG DOCUMENT IT IS.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THIS COMMISSION DOESN'T HAVE A PROJECT APPROVAL AUTHORITY.
IT, IT'S, IT'S JUST ADVISORY TO STAFF AND TO THE COUNCIL.
UM, AND I THINK THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE GOTTEN FROM IT WHEN WE'VE BROUGHT SPECIFIC PROJECTS LIKE THE SINGLE USE ORDINANCE, UM, HAS BEEN, HAS BEEN HELPFUL AS WELL.
AND I, AND I KNOW A LOT OF THE STOPS THAT THE GENERAL PLAN, UH, TEAM HAS MADE HERE HAVE REALLY FELT LIKE IT, THAT'S BEEN TIME WELL SPENT FOR THEM TO KIND OF GET THE ESSENCE OF, OF WHAT THE COMMISSION WANTS, HOW IT, HOW SPECIFIC AS ASPECTS OF THE GENERAL PLAN NEEDED TO BE BOLSTERED TO, UM, ADDRESS THOSE, THOSE ISSUES OF CONCERN.
SO, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T THINK THAT STAFF IS ADVOCAT ADVOCATING A POSITION OF THE CAC ISN'T DOING
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ANYTHING USEFUL AND, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULDN'T HAVE IT ANYMORE.UM, I THINK WE'RE JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, WE'RE TRYING TO HELP FACILITATE HOW THE CAC SEES ITS ROLE GOING FORWARD NOW POST, UH, ADOPTION OF THE, THE BLUEPRINT.
AND, AND, AND REALLY YOU KIND OF MISSED MY OPENING REMARKS OF LIKE, HOW DO WE GET MORE PUBLIC TO ATTEND THESE MEETINGS AND HOW DO WE HAVE PEOPLE COMING AWAY FEELING LIKE, OH, I REALLY LEARNED A LOT ON X TOPIC, OR THE CITY'S REALLY DOING A LOT IN THIS AREA ON Y TOPIC.
SO, SO I, I DON'T KNOW THAT I REALLY ADDRESSED YOUR QUESTION TO YOUR SATISFACTION, BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M COMING FROM ON THAT.
SO I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE GOAL.
SO I, I'D LIKE TO HEAR, THINK ABOUT THAT THIS NEXT MONTH AND LET'S HEAR ABOUT THAT BACK IN.
I ASSUME WE WERE MEETING IN DECEMBER, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR BACK, UH, FROM A COUNCIL POINT OF VIEW, UM, ARE WE THERE ALREADY FOR, HAVE WE MET THE GOAL AND THE FUNCTION OF THIS WHOLE COMMISSION WHEN WE CREATED IT? IS IT, ARE WE DONE OR WHAT WORK STILL NEEDS TO GET DONE, UM, MOVING FORWARD? AND SO THAT'S NOT CLEAR TO ME YET.
YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK TO, TO REALLY ADDRESS THAT.
I, I DON'T THINK WE'RE EVER GONNA BE DONE ON THE EDUCATION ASPECT.
UM, SO I ALWAYS SEE A ROLE IN THE CAC AND COMMISSIONERS IN BEING THOSE ADVOCATES FOR BLUEPRINT IMPLEMENTATION.
ESPECIALLY IN PLACES WHERE, WHERE STAFF, UH, CAN'T NECESSARILY GO OR, OR MAYBE WE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE THE EXPERTISE THAT THE CONNECTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, UM, AS YOUR VOLUNTEERS, AS REALLY ENGAGED PEOPLE IN YOUR COMMUNITIES, YOU ARE LIKE,
SO, UM, I DON'T THINK THERE'S EVER A TIME THAT WE WON'T NEED YOU FOR THAT.
SO IF WE'RE, THAT'S OUR MAIN ROLE AMBASSADOR, UM, OUT THERE TO DO THAT, THEN IF THAT'S GONNA BE A MAIN ROLE FOR US FOR THIS COMMITTEE, THEN LET'S ESTABLISH THAT AND HOW, HOW WOULD WE DO THAT AND WHEN DO WE NEED TO MEET TOGETHER OTHER THAN GOING OUT THERE AND, AND HELPING BE THOSE AMBASSADORS AND SPENDING OUR TIME DOING THAT RATHER THAN MEETING HERE, HOW DO WE GET THAT DONE? SO IF THAT'S GONNA BE THE MAIN ROLE MOVING FORWARD, 'CAUSE BLUEPRINT'S ESTABLISHED YOU'RE WORKING ON, ON THE ACTUAL IMPLEMENTATION.
SO TO ACTUALLY CARRY THAT OUT, HOW CAN WE MEET WITH THE COMMUNITY AND DO THE OUTREACH? 'CAUSE RIGHT NOW IN HOUSING AND OTHER AREAS, IT'S THE OUTREACH, THE EDUCATION TO THE PUBLIC AND EVERYONE TO BUY IN AT WHAT WE ACTUALLY WANT.
THAT'S ONE OF THE CRITICAL THINGS THAT'S NOT BEEN GOING WELL.
AND WE NEED TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN AS A CRITICAL FUNCTION.
SO IF THAT'S OUR GONNA BE THE MAIN ROLE, THEN WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT HOW TO DO THAT ROLE.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE I WAS GOING NEXT BECAUSE THIS, SO THIS CONVERSATION STARTED WITH US TALKING ABOUT AT THE ADVOCACY ROLE, WHICH IS WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE CADENCE CHANGES, WHICH IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, AND THEN LIKE THE PRESENTATIONS.
AND SO I WAS, I WAS GONNA SAY, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE ALL WILLING TO MAKE THE CADENCE, YOU KNOW, LIKE A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW, WHICH IS, I MEAN, I THINK NOW WE'RE DOING NINE OR 10 MEETINGS A YEAR.
WE USUALLY DO CANCEL ONCE OR ONE OR TWO.
UM, BUT MAYBE WE'LL DO IT MORE LIKE FOUR OR SIX TIMES A YEAR INSTEAD.
AND, UM, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY MAYBE WE COULD KEEP IT A LITTLE BIT, UM, LOOSE AND JUST DECIDE AS WE MOVE FORWARD, LIKE DECIDE TO MEET IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY ANYWAYS BECAUSE WE ARE, WE NEED TO MAKE THOSE, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEN SORT OF GO LIKE, LOOK AT, LOOK AT THE OUTLOOK AND JUST MAKE A DECISION.
SO IF THE COUNT, IF THE COMMISSION IS COMFORTABLE WITH IT, UM, THE VICE CHAIR AND I CAN, CAN WORK WITH STAFF ON WHAT MAKES SENSE FOR THAT IF, IF THAT'S COMFORTABLE FOR YOU GUYS.
BUT THEN THE REASON THAT WE'RE DOING THAT IS SO THAT WE CAN MAKE ROOM FOR MORE ADVOCACY WORK AND MORE IN, IN THE COMMUNITY WORK AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE COMING TO COUNCIL MEETINGS AND YOU KNOW, LIKE BRINGING OUR POMPOMS AND SAYING, WE LIKE WHAT YOU'RE DOING, WE LIKE HOW YOU'RE IMPLEMENTING IT, YOU KNOW, AND, UM, COMING, YOU KNOW, TO THE OTHER COMMISSIONS AND COMMITTEES AND, AND GOING AND BEING OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND VOLUNTEERING OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT WE NEED TO BE DOING.
AND SO THE QUESTION IS HOW DO WE STRUCTURE THAT? LIKE ARE WE ALREADY STRUCTURED ENOUGH WITH OUR, WITH OUR WORKING GROUPS AND OUR AD HOCS OR DO WE NEED TO BE LIKE ASSIGNING OR VOLUNTEERING FOR CERTAIN PARTICULAR ROLES OR FOR CERTAIN PARTICULAR GROUPS LIKE THAT EACH OF US IS GONNA SORT OF TAKE ON AS PART OF OUR LIKE LIAISING.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE I WAS THINKING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE ACTUALLY WANT TO GET THE PUBLIC INVOLVED, WE HAVE TO GO TO THEM.
AND SO I'M THINKING ABOUT GROUPS LIKE ROTARY CLUB, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF GROUPS AND CLUBS.
I MEAN EVEN, WE EVEN HAVE LIKE COOL PETALUMA AND BLUE ZONES.
THEY HAVE, THERE'S ALREADY KIND OF THIS INFRASTRUCTURE OF CLUBS OUT THERE.
THEY'VE GOT MEETINGS GOING ON, THEY CAN'T, THEY'RE NOT GONNA MAKE IT HERE.
AND I WOULD PERSONALLY BE VERY WILLING TO BE LIAISON OR, OR A, UH, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A ROTATING SPEAKER SERIES TO, TO HELP THE STAFF.
'CAUSE YOU KNOW, DEB CAN'T BE EVERYWHERE.
UH, TO AND NATASHA, NATASHA, YOU CAN'T EITHER.
I'M LIKE, WHAT IS THE CITY DOING? HOW CAN YOU GET INVOLVED? I WOULD, I WOULD BE VERY HAPPY TO, UH, VOLUNTEER THAT WE CAN DECIDE THIS MORE FORMALLY, MAYBE NEXT MEETING, BUT LIKE ABOUT ASSIGNMENTS.
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BUT I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO TAKE ON THAT ASI PARTICULAR ASSIGNMENT IN THE COMMUNITY AND, AND FIGURE OUT WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE THE CLUBS AND OTHER GROUPS OUT THERE THAT WE, WHERE WE COULD MAKE THOSE CONNECTIONS, UM, IN BETWEEN OUR MORE FORMAL MEETINGS.SO I THINK, YEAH, THAT'S, THAT THAT'D BE A FRAMEWORK THAT WOULD AT LEAST WORK FOR ME.
I'M NOT SURE IF EVERYONE ELSE IS SO COMFORTABLE WITH PUBLIC SPEAKING, BUT, UM, YEAH, I THINK WE WOULD ALL BE REALLY GOOD AT IT.
AND WE ALL HAVE VERY COOL THINGS WE'VE WORKED ON IN THE BLUEPRINT, YOU KNOW, EXPERTISE THAT YOU'VE BROUGHT TO THE COMMISSION THAT YOU COULD SPEAK TO, UH, WITH OTHER GROUPS.
AND, AND THEN FROM, UH, THE STUDENTS, UM, WHETHER OR NOT TO ACTUALLY, UM, BECAUSE TO HOW CAN WE HELP YOU GET THE STUDENTS IN THE SCHOOLS? 'CAUSE RIGHT NOW THERE IS A, UM, JUST HEARD, UM, FROM A, FROM OTHER SOURCES, UM, LARGE AMOUNT OF ANXIETY ABOUT CLIMATE AND THAT NEEDS TO BE WORKED ON.
AND WHETHER OR NOT HOW CAN WE HELP, UM, GET STUDENTS MORE ENGAGED AND, AND KNOW THAT THERE'S POSITIVE OUTCOMES.
WE, WE DID ALSO, WE DID ALL THAT.
YOU CUT THAT COVERED STRAIGHT MIND.
JUST SO, UM, BUT IF THAT'S ONE OF THE TOPICS THEN, THEN HOW CAN WE HELP YOU GET THAT OUT THERE AND, AND SUPPORT YOU AND GET THE ED? 'CAUSE THE EDUCATION'S GONNA BE, NEEDS TO BE MORE THAN JUST TALK US OLDER ADULTS TALKING TO EACH OTHER.
CAN I ASK COMMISSIONER THORS, IS YOUR OBSERVATION THAT LIKE YOUR GENERATION IS ANXIOUS ABOUT THE, BECAUSE WHEN I WAS, I WAS A TEACHER FIVE YEARS AGO AND WHEN I WAS A TEACHER, I FELT LIKE THERE WAS A LOT OF ANXIETY, BUT I'M WONDERING IF IT'S STILL THE SAME FIVE YEARS LATER.
UM, I WOULD SAY THAT THERE IS SOME ANXIETY.
I THINK IT'S JUST NOT LIKE IF YOU'RE GOING AROUND LIKE SAY SCHOOL OR SOMETHING, IT'S NOT GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT'S TALKED ABOUT WIDELY.
BUT I THINK THERE'S LIKE GROUPS OF PEOPLE THAT IF AN OPPORTUNITY PRESENTS ITSELF, THEY WILL BE WILLING TO LIKE GO LOOK FARTHER INTO THIS AND BE MORE INTERESTED IN IT BECAUSE THEY MIGHT NOT THINK ABOUT IT ON A REGULAR BASIS, BUT IF THEY'RE, LIKE THEIR ATTENTION IS PUT TOWARDS IT, THEY'RE LIKE, OH, ACTUALLY I AM WORRIED ABOUT THIS.
THIS IS ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT I NEED TO PUT MY TIME IN AND PUT EFFORT INTO.
SO AS YOU'RE SAYING LIKE ADVOCACY, LIKE GOING INTO THE SCHOOLS, SEEING LIKE WHAT COULD WE COULD DO TO HELP THEM HAVE STUDENTS BE LIKE, MORE PARTICIPATED IN, 'CAUSE THE GROUPS ARE LIKE FORMED THERE.
I THINK WE JUST NEED TO LIKE, REACH OUT AND FIND THEM.
I, UH, JUST, I'M, I THINK I'M IN ALIGNMENT WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID.
MAYBE JUST A REFINEMENT TO MY QUESTION TO PATRICK.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE REFORMULATING THIS BODY IN A DIFFERENT BODY IS NOT NECESSARILY THE PATH FORWARD.
UM, SO THE QUESTION THEN, UH, TO ACHIEVE A GOAL OF PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, REMOTE PARTICIPATION, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO, OR COULD YOU EXPLORE RATHER THE CREATION OF A NEW GROUP OR, YOU KNOW, CARVE OUT OF LIKE A GPAC THE GPAC ELEMENT THAT HAD A CLIMATE FOCUS THAT WE COULD PERHAPS JOIN AND INVITE OTHERS TO, UH, THAT HAD THAT REMOTE PARTICIPATION? IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
TO SUMMARIZE, RATHER THAN TRY AND DISSOLVE THIS BODY AND REFORMULATE IT AS A GPAC BODY, COULD WE EXPLORE CARVING OUT SOME OF THE GPAC BODY OR EFFORT OR CREATING SOMETHING SIMILAR BUT THAT HAD A REMOTE PARTICIPATION COMPONENT? I DON'T WANNA LOSE SIGHT OF THE DESIRE TO HAVE A REMOTE PARTICIPATION OPPORTUNITY.
SO I THINK WE CAN, WE CAN BRING BACK OPTIONS FOR THAT.
UM, I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I, I DO KNOW, LIKE FOR, UM, SOCIAL EVENTS, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONERS CAN ATTEND THAT AS LONG AS THEY'RE NOT DISCUSSING LIKE COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, ITEMS THAT WOULD COME BEFORE THE COMMISSION.
SO MAYBE WORKSHOPS WOULD BE, THERE'S A WAY TO DO THAT WORKSHOP WHERE IT'S NOT A CAC, I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
UM, IT'S HARD BECAUSE THE ISSUES I THINK YOU'D ALL WANNA ATTEND ARE ALL CLIMATE RELATED, WHICH WE ARE POTENTIAL ITEMS THAT WOULD COME BEFORE YOU AS A COMMISSION.
BUT WE CAN, WE CAN LOOK INTO DIFFERENT MODELS THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD DO THAT.
AND JUST BECAUSE WE LOOK INTO IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE TO GO, WE CAN PRESENT A FEW OPTIONS OF, OF HOW THAT WOULD LOOK.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT AND GO, NO, THESE TWO ARE GARBAGE.
GET, GET, GET RID OF THEM, THEN THAT'S, THAT'S FINE.
I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE HERE TO TRY AND MAKE YOUR TIME FEEL LIKE YOU'RE, YOU'RE GETTING VALUE OF, OF THAT, THAT, OF THAT TIME THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE VOLUNTEERING FOR US.
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SO, UM, YEAH, WE CAN, WE CAN TRY TO BE CREATIVE.I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE PRETTY GOOD AT, IS TRYING TO FIND CREATIVE SOLUTIONS TO DIFFICULT PROBLEMS. OKAY.
UM, SO TO BRING IT BACK TO, UM, THE ADV A ADVOCACY PIECE OR LIAISONING, HOWEVER WE WANNA DESCRIBE THAT.
UM, THE, THE QUESTION I WAS WONDERING WAS ARE WE A BEING REALLY, UM, LIKE ASSIGNED ABOUT IT? LIKE, IT SOUNDED LIKE COMMISSIONER GUARDIAN IS WILLING TO GO AND BASICALLY COME BACK TO US WITH A LIST OF LIKE, HERE ARE THE ORGANIZATIONS.
IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE SAYING? VOLUNTEERING MYSELF? HUH? I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID.
I THINK MAYBE ONE, ONE HOMEWORK ASSIGNMENT FOR MYSELF WOULD BE, UH, WORKING WITH, UH, POTENTIALLY DEB PATRICK AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE NATASHA, UH, IS, YEAH.
UH, UH, FIGURE OUT A, A LIST OF CIVIC GROUPS OR, AND OTHER GROUPS THAT EXIST HERE IN TOWN.
I THINK THEY SHOULD NOT EVEN NECESSARILY BE CLIMATE RELATED AT ALL.
I THINK IF WE'RE REALLY GONNA ACTUALLY THINK ABOUT EXPANDING, UH, PUBLIC PARTICIPATION IN PUBLIC EDUCATION, IT SHOULD BE GROUPS THAT DON'T REALLY, THEY'RE NOT ORIENTED AROUND CLIMATE OR ENVIRONMENTALISM.
BUT WE COULD STILL GO AND HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE COULD SPEAK, AND AGAIN, I THINK OF THINGS LIKE THE ROTARY CLUB, BUT THERE COULD BE ALL KINDS OF THINGS.
BUT I'LL, I'LL, I'LL COME UP WITH A LIST I, AND, AND THEN WE'LL, YOU KNOW, REPORT IT OUT IN THE NEXT MEETING AND SEE IF THAT'S A GOOD, AND WE CAN REFINE IT OR WHATEVER.
BUT, AND YEAH, I WOULD BE THEN VOLUNTEERING MYSELF TO GO CON CONTACT THEM AND, AND SEE IF THEY'D BE WILLING TO, UH, ENGAGE WITH US.
I MEAN, HOW DOES THAT, OR HOW DOES THAT SOUND TO EVERYBODY? I THINK THAT THE, THE, UM, THERE'S ANOTHER PART OF IT.
I MEAN THERE'S THE WORKING GROUPS AND I THINK WE COULD TALK ABOUT LIKE, ARE THERE ADDITIONAL WORKING GROUPS THAT WE SHOULD HAVE THAT WE DON'T PRESENTLY HAVE? AND THEN I THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA TALK ABOUT ASSIGNING FOLKS TO DIFFERENT CCBS.
RIGHT? THERE'S, I THOUGHT THAT'S WHERE WE WERE, WHERE WE WERE GONNA GO.
THERE'S CCBS AND, AND THERE'S OTHER GROUPS IN PETALUMA THAT ARE LIKE DAILY ACTS OR COOL PETALUMA OR BLUE ZONES THAT ARE DOING THINGS THAT ARE BOTH ARE IMPORTANT.
WELL, I MEAN THAT'S THE QUESTION'S.
HOW IS THIS ADVOCACY WORK? HOW DOES IT WORK TO KIND OF RESPOND A LITTLE BIT TO WHAT BEN'S BRINGING UP? YOU COULD, WE COULD HAVE A WORKING GROUP THAT'S ABOUT COMMUNITY EDUCATION THAT FOCUSES ON PRESENTATIONS THAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS WORKING WITH, YOU KNOW, COOL PENDULUM AND STAFF AND BLAH BLAH.
THAT COULD BE ONE OF OUR WORKING GROUPS, WHICH WOULD I THINK BE WHAT YOU'RE KIND OF INTERESTED IN HAVING HAPPENED, YOU KNOW? UM, AND SO I THINK THAT THAT MIGHT BE A WAY FOR US TO DO IT.
'CAUSE I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA BE STUCK WITH A BROWN ACT NO MATTER WHAT, YOU KNOW? AND WHEN IF WE CAN'T DO REMOTE, WE CAN ONLY HAVE PEOPLE SHOW UP.
I MEAN, IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE, YOU KNOW, I THINK IF WE HAD FEWER MEETINGS AND MORE IMPORTANT TOPICS AND SCHEDULE, YOU KNOW, IN ADVANCE WITH THE PRESENTATION, WE'D HAVE MORE PEOPLE TO SHOW UP.
YOU KNOW? BUT I THINK THE, THE POINT OF MEETING PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE, I THINK WOULD BE TO, TO GET IN A WORKING GROUP THAT DOES THAT.
AND YEAH, MAYBE NOT RELYING ON JUST ONE PERSON TO GO MEET WITH ALL THESE PEOPLE, BUT ACTUALLY HAVE IT BE, YOU KNOW, TWO OR THREE PEOPLE PRIORITIZING THE EDUCATIONAL ENGAGEMENT ASPECT OF THIS.
UH, I DO, I DO WANNA, UH, CONFRONT ONE CHALLENGE FOR HAVING A LIAISON TO ONE OTHER GROUP.
UH, I ACTUALLY WA WANTED TO GO TO THE GPAC MEETING, BUT THAT'S TONIGHT, IT'S
SO I ACTUALLY MET WITH DAVE ALDEN, WHO'S WHO SITS ON GPAC.
BUT IT'S NOT THE SAME THING AS GOING TO THE MEETING.
SO THAT IS A ONE CHALLENGE I, I DO WANNA THROW OUT THERE.
AND TO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER'S POINT, THAT IS GONNA BE A HUGE TOPIC THIS UPCOMING YEAR.
AND SO I DON'T KNOW HOW TO, I MEAN, WE CAN LIAISE, LIAISE WITH CERTAIN MEMBERS OF THE GPAC OR I COULD JUST MISS THIS MEETING.
THAT'S, THAT'S, AND IF WE'RE MEETING LESS THAT'S TRUE.
AND THAT MEETING'S NOT NORMALLY ON THE SECOND THURSDAY.
YEAH, IT'S THE THIRD THURSDAY.
I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT ONE WEEK.
WELL, NEVERMIND THEN I'LL SHUT MY MOUTH.
UH, BUT ANYWAYS, I, I, TO YOUR POINT, YEAH, I DO THINK WE SHOULD STILL HAVE ASSIGNED, YOU KNOW, ONE PERSON GOES G PAG, ONE PERSON GOES PLANNING ONE PER, YOU KNOW, TREE COMMITTEE COMMITTEE.
THAT, THAT I THINK COULD BE INTERESTING.
YEAH, I THINK IF WE'RE GONNA MEET LESS FREQUENTLY, WE NEED THAT KIND OF ACCOUNTABILITY, YOU KNOW, TO EACH OTHER THAT WE'RE COMMITTING TO CERTAIN WORKING GROUPS AND A WORK PLAN AT
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THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR.AND THEN WE'RE COMMITTING TO, YOU KNOW, ATTENDING OR LIAISING WITH IMPORTANT CCBS, YOU KNOW, ON TOPICS RELATED TO THE CORNERSTONES THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.
I'LL ADD ONE MORE, UH, WORKING GROUP THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT RELATED TO THIS, BUT THE PETALUMA CITY SCHOOL'S CLIMATE ACTION, UH, TASK FORCE STARTS NEXT THURSDAY.
UH, AND SO IT IS A OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE.
THEY ARE LOOKING FOR, UH, EXPERTS TO PARTICIPATE.
THAT'S, WHERE IS THAT, AND DOES THAT HAPPEN AT, IT'LL BE AT ALAMA CITY SCHOOLS, UH, DISTRICT OFFICE.
DO STUDENTS GO TO THAT? THEY CAN, UH, IT, IT, IT, IT'S A COMMITMENT.
IT'S NOT JUST A ONE SHOW UP AND IT'S ACTUALLY PARTICIPATING ON THE TASK FORCE ON A REGULAR CADENCE, WHICH I'M NOT THE, THE FIRST ONE'S NEXT THURSDAY FROM FOUR TO FIVE 30.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THE ACT WHO ALL GETS TO BE ON IT OTHER THAN IF THERE'S INTEREST, UM, I WOULD PUT YOU IN TOUCH WITH THE PERSON WHO'S ORGANIZING IT.
I'LL JUST, I, I'LL SPEAK TO THAT.
'CAUSE MY WIFE, I THINK IS AT LEAST PARTIALLY ON THE TASK FORCE THERE.
AND SHE DID ATTEND THE LAST MEETING AND IT WAS MOSTLY FOCUSED ON LIKE, THE CLIMATE EDUCATION CURRICULUM.
AND SHE WAS LIKE, UH, YOU, IF YOU WEREN'T A TEACHER, YOU MAYBE WOULDN'T, THIS WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN A GOOD USE OF YOUR TIME.
YEAH, IT'S A SLIGHT, THOSE ARE, THERE'RE TWO DIFFERENT GROUPS.
THERE IS THE LITERACY, UH, OKAY.
THAT HAS BEEN MEETING EVERY MONTH.
THIS IS SPECIFIC TO THE, THE RESOLUTION THEY PASSED A CLIMATE ACTION.
WELL, ONE IS DESIGNED FOR TEACHERS.
THAT HAS BEEN THE ONE THAT HAS BEEN MEETING FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS.
THIS GROUP THAT'S STARTING NEXT WEEK IS SPECIFIC TO CREATING A CLIMATE ACTION PLAN FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
SO I, I FEEL LIKE WE MAYBE HAVE, UH, GOTTEN TWO OF THE THREE CHECK MARKS ON THIS, ON THESE TOPICS HERE.
SO IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE, UM, OUR CADENCE, WE'RE GONNA KEEP IT FLEXIBLE, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO CANCEL MORE MEETINGS, BASICALLY
UM, AND THEN WITH THE ADVOCACY STUFF, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO DO OUR WORKING GROUPS, UM, AND, AND, UM, BASICALLY COMMIT TO GOING TO CERTAIN CCBS THAT ARE RELATED TO THOSE, TO THOSE WORKING GROUPS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.
DOES THAT, DO WE HAVE AGREEMENT ON THAT? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? OKAY.
UM, AND THEN THE LAST ITEM WAS THE PRESENTATION PIECE.
UM, IS THAT, IS THERE SOME, ARE THERE SOME, SOME IDEAS ON HOW THAT HAPPENS? WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE IN PEOPLE'S MINDS? IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANNA PRIORITIZE AND DO? I THINK ANOTHER WAY WE DESCRIBED THAT WAS WORKSHOPS.
IS THAT ANOTHER, AND IF, IF YOU WANT TO DELAY ON THAT, TELL STAFF COMES BACK WITH SOME DIFFERENT POTENTIAL MODELS OF HOW WE WOULD MAKE THAT WORK.
IF AT, IF YOU WANT AN OUT
I MEAN, THAT STRIKES TO ME AS ALSO A PRIME PARTNERSHIP OPPORTUNITY.
LIKE, I MEAN, IT WOULD BE IDEAL TO SAY COOL PETALUMA HOSTED, YOU KNOW, FOR WORKSHOPS A YEAR OR SOMETHING, AND WE PARTICIPATE OR PROVIDE THE TOPICS OR WORK TOWARD THEM.
I MEAN, I THINK IT'S NICE TO HAVE PRESENTATIONS HERE.
UM, AND THEN THE, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER THOUGHT IS NICE TO HAVE PRESENTATIONS HERE.
AND THEN IF WE'RE IN WORKING GROUPS, THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE ASSIGNMENTS FOR THE WORKING GROUP IS EITHER TO, TO PRESENT THE MATERIAL THAT THEY WORKED ON AT THE END, YOU KNOW, AFTER TWO OR THREE MONTHS OF WORKING ON IT AND OR TO HAVE A, YOU KNOW, LOCAL EXPERT COME AND PRESENT ON THE TOPIC.
WELL, I KNOW THE, UM, SO ONE OF OUR, THIS SORT OF, THIS RELATES TO THE, UM, WORKING GROUP THAT I'M WORKING ON WITH DEB, WHICH IS LIKE A COMMUNICATIONS WORKING GROUP.
UM, AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IS, I KNOW WE'RE GETTING TO THAT TOPIC NEXT, BUT WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IS, UM, HAVING SORT OF A, LIKE AN AGENDA OF LIKE A, A BLITZ OF INFORMATION FOR, YOU KNOW, TWO OR THREE MONTHS AT A TIME WHERE LIKE WE'RE GETTING,
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YOU KNOW, ALL THESE DIFFERENT WAYS OF COMMUNICATING WITH THE, WITH OUR COMMUNITY ABOUT SPECIFIC TOPICS.SO LIKE THIS TIME OF YEAR IT MIGHT BE ABOUT CONSUMPTION.
'CAUSE EVERYBODY'S BUYING A BUNCH OF STUFF FOR CHRISTMAS.
AND YOU KNOW, IN THE, IN THE WINTER IT MIGHT BE ABOUT ENERGY USE BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S GOT THEIR HEATERS ON HIGH.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND SORT OF JUST, UH, TIMING IT OUT IN WAYS THAT MAKE SENSE.
CARBON GARDENING IS MAYBE IN THE SPRING 'CAUSE EVERYBODY'S PLANTING.
UM, AND SO IT COULD BE THAT THAT COMMUNICATIONS GROUP HELPS WITH THE PRESENTATIONS IN THAT SA IN THAT WAY.
I THINK THAT'D BE HUGELY HELPFUL.
AND THEN, AND IF, IF THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION, LIKE AS A BODY CAN BE PROMOTING THOSE IN SOME WAY, LIKE IF THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION CAN BE OTHER THAN LIKE, SO I'M PARTICIPATING IN THAT WORKING GROUP, BUT LIKE IF AS A BODY, IF THERE'S A WAY THAT LIKE WE CAN BE SUPPORTING THOSE EFFORTS AND WORKSHOPS, YOU KNOW, OR WHATEVER, THEN WE CAN JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND, I GUESS, IS REALLY WHAT I'M SAYING.
I GUESS I HAVE MAYBE A QUESTION ON THIS.
SO I DO KNOW THAT FORMERLY THE SONOMA COUNTY, LIKE ENERGY, THERE WAS THE THREE DIFFERENT BODIES AT THE COUNTY.
RIGHT? AND THEN I THINK THEY COLLAPSED 'EM DOWN INTO ONE OR TWO.
I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE, BUT AT LEAST PREVIOUSLY THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE DOING.
IT'S LIKE WORKSHOPS AND STUFF, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S LIKE, THAT'S GREAT.
IF THEY'RE STILL DOING THAT GREAT.
YOU KNOW, LIKE I DO THINK LIKE THE CONTENT AND INFORMATION IS AT LEAST COUNTY APPLICABLE AND NOT CITY APPLICABLE.
AND SO IF WE WERE LIKE TO REALLY LEAN IN ON THAT COLLABORATION WITH THE COUNTY AND HOPEFULLY PLUGGING INTO WHAT THEY'RE DOING WOULD BE A MORE IDEAL OUTCOME, THEN SORT OF REPLICATING IT IN WITHIN THE CITY.
AND THAT'S, I KNOW THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING.
WE'RE COLLABORATING WITH THE COUNTY.
UH, THAT IS THE ELECTRIFICATION WORKING GROUP.
THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE WORKING ON.
SO DAN AND, UH, AMY WE'RE PART OF THAT.
AND THAT HAS SINCE SPLINTERED OFF TO TWO SEPARATE RESIDENTIAL AND A COMMERCIAL PATHWAYS FOR EDUCATION, OPPORTUNITY ROADMAPS, ENERGY ROAD MAPPING FOR BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL.
SO I MEAN, DOES THAT SEEM REASONABLE JUST TO SORT OF ROLL THAT INTO, AND THEN IF ANYBODY ON THIS, YOU KNOW, ANYBODY IN ANY OF THE WORKING GROUPS THAT LIKE THE COMMUNICATIONS, LIKE I'M NOT IN, 'CAUSE I'M IN THE COMMUNICATIONS.
UM, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN, THEN DEB OR I WOULD BE GOOD POINTS OF CONTACT FOR THAT.
I MEAN, EDUCATION WAS ONE OF THE FOUR ORIGINAL CHAPTERS IN THE FRAMEWORK FOR THIS VERY REASON, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S GREAT TO BE TURNING TO THAT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, AND BUILDING IT OUT.
AND I LIKE THE IDEA OF IT BEING A WORKING GROUP.
'CAUSE IT ALLOWS ALL THESE CROSS CONNECTIONS, YOU KNOW, IT BUILDS ALL THAT MM-HMM
I'M, I'M JUST GOING TO DO A SUMMARY TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.
AND DO WE NEED TO MAKE SOME KIND OF LIKE, NO, I, I THINK YOU CAN JUST THROUGH CONSENSUS SAY THAT'S YOUR DIRECTION THAT YOU WANT TO GIVE THE STAFF.
SO THEN, UM, JUST TO RE I JUST, I'M JUST GONNA RESTATE WHAT I ALREADY SAID BASICALLY.
SO WE HAVE ON THE, ON THE CADENCE TOPIC, WE, WE ARE GONNA MEET FEWER TIMES SO THAT WE CAN PRIORITIZE MORE ADVOCACY AND BEING IN THE COMMUNITY AND COMMIT TO GOING TO CCBS THAT ARE RELATED TO OUR TOPICS, UM, OUR WORKING GROUP TOPICS.
AND THEN AS FAR AS PRESENTATION GOES, THAT'S GONNA BE WORKED INTO THE COMMUNICATIONS WORKING GROUP.
AND HOWEVER WE CAN SUPPORT IS, IS WHAT WE WANNA DO.
AND, UM, FROM THIS SIDE, IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE REALLY FEEL STRONGLY SHOULD HAPPEN, THEN UM, GIVE US THAT FEEDBACK.
GIVE THE COMMUNICATIONS PEOPLE THAT FEEDBACK.
THEN WE CAN MOVE ON TO, UH, ITEM THREE, VERBAL REPORT FROM AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEES.
UM, WE HAVE ELECTRIC VEHICLES AND CARBON GARDENING.
I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE STAFF TO PRESENT.
IS THAT YOU? THIS IS, THIS IS YOU GUYS.
WE DON'T, WE DON'T, WE DON'T NEED GET INVOLVED.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT IT'S WHAT'S WRITTEN HERE, SO, OKAY.
SO THEN WHO WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN? WHO, WHICH OF THE COMMISSIONERS WOULD LIKE TO START TALKING? UH, I COULD, OKAY.
WE'RE WORKING ON A BETTER NAME 'CAUSE WE DON'T THINK THE PUBLIC'S REALLY GONNA UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS.
SO WE'RE KIND OF HABITAT GARDENING.
WE'RE KIND OF PLAYING WITH DIFFERENT NAMES.
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SEPTEMBER 25TH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.UM, WE'VE HAD REALLY GREAT PARTICIPATION.
THERE'S BEEN ABOUT 15, 16 PEOPLE AT EACH MEETING.
LOTS OF DIFFERENT COMMUNITY GROUPS PRESENT.
UM, WE'VE, UH, GENERALLY AGREED ON, UM, HOW WE WANNA APPROACH THE TOPIC.
UM, AND WE MET AGAIN YESTERDAY AND, UM, WE'VE KIND OF FRAMED THE CHALLENGE, UM, KIND OF PROMOTING HEALTHY SOILS, HEALTHY LANDSCAPES, HEALTHY PEOPLE, HEALTHY EARTH, LIKE KIND OF GETTING EVERYBODY ON THAT IDEA THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THIS CO-OCCURRING BIODIVERSITY CRISIS WITH THE CLIMATE CRISIS AND THEY'RE INTERACTING AND HOW CAN WE IMPROVE BIODIVERSITY IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND, UM, SO I THINK EVERYONE'S ON THE SAME PAGE WITH THE LARGER GOAL AND, AND WE'RE DEVELOPING A SENSE OF WHAT OUR SCOPE IS FOR THIS YEAR.
UM, SO THERE'S VARIOUS OPPORTUNITIES TO WORK ON ACTUAL CO ACTUAL PROJECTS IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND ALSO LOOKING AT DEVELOPING A ROADMAP, WHICH DEB WAS JUST USING THAT TERM.
AND IN THIS CASE WOULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, RECIPES FOR HEALTHY SOILS.
YOU KNOW, PLANT LISTS THAT ARE APPROPRIATE FOR DI DIFFERENT ECO TONES, YOU KNOW, HABITAT TYPES IN PETALUMA.
UM, DEVELOPING BIODIVERSITY INDEXES, WORKING CLOSELY WITH, UM, LOCAL SCIENCE BASED ORGANIZATIONS TO HELP US FIGURE OUT HOW WE IMPROVE BIODIVERSITY IN DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS.
KIND OF WHAT'S THERE, WHAT'S MISSING, UM, WORKING WITH SCHOOLS TO DO BIOBLITZES, ENGAGING IN VOLUNTEERS.
SO A LOT OF GOOD IDEAS, UM, COMING OUT.
AND SO KIND OF WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW IS WE'RE GONNA DEVELOP THIS ROADMAP OF RESOURCES AND DEVELOPING A PILOT PROJECT, UM, WHICH LOOKS TO BE IN THE, UM, KIND OF MEADOW VIEW PARK AREA.
UM, AND SO WE'LL KIND OF TRY AND DEVELOP A, A DEMONSTRATION PROJECT THAT SHOWS WHAT WE HAVE IN MIND FOR KIND OF HEALTHY LANDSCAPES IN PEN LUA TO GO NEXT.
UH, YEAH, ELECTRIC VEHICLE AD HOC.
UM, I'LL SAY THE, UH, YOU KNOW, US THREE MET THE, PROBABLY NOT IN ORDER OF PRIORITY, BUT WHAT WAS DISCUSSED THE MOST WAS, UM, BOTH AN EDUCATIONAL ELEMENT AROUND THE AIR DISTRICT'S LOW INCOME ELECTRIC VEHICLE REBATE PROGRAM.
UM, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE WILL SHARE OUT TO, I GUESS, UM, AT LEAST THE STAFF WITH THE IDEA THAT, UH, A FOLLOW-UP STEP WOULD BE TO INTERACT WITH THE SORT OF MAIN LOW INCOME HOUSING OPERATORS IN TOWN TO SHARE THE INFORMATION OF THAT GRANT TO THEN THEIR, UH, THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE.
AND THEN IN COMBINATION WITH, UH, EFFORTS TO SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT OF CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE AT THOSE FACILITIES WITH THE RECOGNITION THAT LEVEL ONE CHARGING IS AN UNDERUTILIZED BUT QUICKER AND CHEAPER TO DEPLOY, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE.
UH, AND SO, YOU KNOW, AN OFFER OF SUPPORT AND ALSO POTENTIAL LIKE TECHNICAL PRESENTATION AROUND CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE AT THESE TYPES OF FACILITIES, PLUS THE VARIOUS ENERGY COMMISSION GRANTS, WHICH ARE SUPPORTING THAT INITIATIVE, UM, SO THAT YOU'RE BOTH HELPING PEOPLE GET ACCESS TO THE VEHICLES AND THEN ALSO SOLVING THE CHARGING BARRIER.
UM, SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE MAIN DISCUSSIONS AND OUTCOMES.
AND THEN SORT OF A SPLINTER OFF OF THAT, UM, WAS, UM, TO SOMEWHAT TAG ONTO THE EARLIER WORK OF THE EV CHARGING MASTER PLAN.
THERE WAS SOME SITE CITY OWNED SITES THAT WERE IDENTIFIED FOR LEVEL TWO INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND SO THE IDEA WAS TO SORT OF TAKE A SECOND LOOK AT CITY INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS NEARBY OR ADJACENT TO THESE HOUSING, THESE DENSE HOUSING SITES, UM, WITH THE IDEA WHAT, WHAT SORT OF LEVEL ONE OR POSSIBLY HIGHER LEVEL CHARGING COULD THE CITY DEPLOY.
YOU KNOW, SHOULD THE CHALLENGE OF DEPLOYING THAT INFRASTRUCTURE AT THE, UH, THE HOUSING SITE BE DIFFICULT OR, YOU KNOW, HAVE A TIME, UH, SITUATION.
SO, UH, THAT WAS THE FIRST BROAD TOPIC I THINK THAT THE WORKING GROUP IS AGREED TO CONTINUE WORKING ON.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT ASK FOR, UH, STAFF SUPPORT ON, UH,
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MOVING FORWARD.UH, THE SECOND WAS THE IDENTIFICATION OF, UH, THE FAIRGROUNDS, UH, PRINCIPALLY, BUT ALSO POSSIBLY, UM, THE OTHER SMART STATIONS, THE TRANSIT CORRIDORS.
UM, HOW DO WE DEPLOY MORE EV INFRASTRUCTURE AT THOSE SITES.
UH, THE FAIRGROUNDS SPECIFICALLY, THERE WAS COMBINA, THERE WAS SORT OF A MULTI-PRONGED DISCUSSION OF, UM, IDEALLY LIKE A MICROCAR SHARING, UH, PARTNERSHIP PLUS INFRASTRUCTURE.
UM, THAT WAS SORT OF BUILT UPON THE IDEA OF WE SHOULD DO A FAST CHARGING DEVELOPMENT AT THE FAIRGROUNDS.
YOU KNOW, BUT THE IDEA WAS LIKE, THERE'S ALREADY ONE AT TARGET, THERE'S ALREADY SORT OF THAT WORK IS, UM, DEVELOPING, BUT WHAT WE DON'T HAVE IS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE CAR, THE EV CAR SHARING IDEA.
AND SO BECAUSE THAT'S SORT OF A CENTRAL CITY LOT THAT, THAT MAY BE EXPLORED.
UH, AND THEN ALSO IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, EITHER SHARE IN OR TAG ALONG WITH SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE DEPLOYMENT AS PART OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY.
YOU KNOW, THE LIKE A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLAR FACILITY THAT WE'RE GONNA BE ISSUING BONDS FOR AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
SO LIKE, HOW DO WE TAP IN AN INFRASTRUCTURE AND TAP INTO THAT PLANNING PROCESS TO SPLINTER OFF, UM, OR ADD TO THE CAPACITY REQUEST AS PART OF THAT PROJECT.
UM, SO THAT'S SORT OF THE FAIRGROUNDS TOPIC AND EV INFRASTRUCTURE AT THE FAIRGROUNDS.
UM, A COUPLE, UH, ITEMS THERE WAS LIKE THE DEALER, THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE DEALER, AND, UM, UH, TOPIC.
SO THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS THERE.
THE FIRST IS, UM, CAN WE IDENTIFY A DEALER IN TOWN THAT WOULD BE INTERESTED AND WILLING TO PROMOTE SOME OF THE NEWER LINE OF VEHICLES THAT AREN'T E-BIKES AND THEY AREN'T CARS, YOU KNOW, SO THERE'S AT LEAST ONE, POSSIBLY A COUPLE DEALERS IN TOWN THAT ARE SELLING, YOU KNOW, OFF-ROAD VEHICLES AS AN EXAMPLE.
LET'S APPROACH THEM, SEE IF THEY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN WHAT SUPPORT THEY WOULD NEED FROM THE CITY OR THE PUBLIC IN SORT OF WELCOMING THOSE TYPES OF VEHICLES AT THEIR DEALER.
OR IF WE NEED TO IDENTIFY, YOU KNOW, A NEW, UH, SPOT, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLY AN EMPTY SPOT IN OUR, UM, AUTO MALL, YOU KNOW, THE AREA THAT'S ZONED AUTO MALL HAS SOME VACANCIES.
YOU KNOW, IF WE DON'T GET ANY INTEREST FROM EXISTING DEALERS, WHAT COULD WE DO TO INVITE, UM, A DEALER TO BRING AND SET UP SHOP FOR THAT TYPE OF, UH, VEHICLE THAT WILL, UM, BE SO IMPORTANT MOVING FORWARD? SO THAT'S THE FIRST KIND OF TOPIC IN THE AUTO DEALER, EV DEALER TOPIC.
THE NEXT, UM, WE HAD MENTIONED LAST TIME, AND I DON'T WANT TO FORGET IT, BUT, UM, EXPLORING THE NOTION OF A SALES TAX HOLIDAY FOR, UM, ELECTRIC VEHICLES FOR THE CITY SALES TAX CITY HAS 1% SALES TAX.
UM, WHAT CAN WE DO TO, YOU KNOW, TEMPORARILY, PERMANENTLY, OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER MECHANISM, UH, SUSPEND THAT BOTH AS A MODEST INCENTIVE IN THE PURCHASING DECISION, BUT ALSO IN A BIG, YOU KNOW, AWARENESS DRIVER OF, YOU KNOW, THE CITY HAS DONE THIS AND MAYBE THAT, YOU KNOW, CREATES SOME, UH, MEDIA EFFECT SIMILAR LIKE TO THE GAS STATION THING, WHICH HAD A HUGE, YOU KNOW, NATIONAL EFFECT, RIGHT? I MEAN, IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE NOTION OF A SALES TAX, 1% SALES TAX HOLIDAY IS MODEST, BUT LIKE THE AWARENESS POTENTIAL IS, IS POSSIBLY THERE.
UM, AND SOMETHING THE CITY CAN A HUNDRED PERCENT CONTROL.
UM, AND THEN LET'S SEE, THE, UM, I, THERE WAS SOME MORE RIDESHARE NOTES ON THE RIDESHARE TOPIC, BUT I THINK WE KIND OF COVERED THAT.
UM, AND THEN THE LAST, I GUESS TOPIC MORE AROUND, UM, THE CITY FLEET AND THE EXISTING, UM, EV CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN.
YOU KNOW, WHAT MORE CAN WE DO TO SUPPORT THAT? UM, WHERE ARE WE STUCK? IS FLEXIBLE CHARGING OR METER COLLAR ADAPTERS, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLE WAYS TO UNSTICK THAT EFFORT.
UH, AND SO WE COVERED THAT BRIEFLY AND SOMETHING WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT BEFORE THIS MEETING.
UM, AND I'M POSSIBLY MISSED SOME THINGS, BUT, UM, THAT'S SORT OF THE, MY SUMMARY.
UM, I, I GUESS I CAN TALK ON THE COMMUNICATIONS ONE.
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UM, SO LOTS OF GOOD THINGS HAPPENING.UM, I SHOULD HAVE PREPARED THIS MORE
UM, WHAT ARE WE DOING ON COMMUNICATIONS? UH, THERE'S A GROUP OF WHAT, 15, 16 PEOPLE THAT ARE, I FEEL LIKE YOU'RE MORE QUALIFIED TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS 'CAUSE YOU'RE SORT OF LEADING IT.
UM, BUT, AND WE MET, SO YEAH, THERE'S, THERE'S, IT'S A GOOD, GOOD, A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT, THAT WANNA BE INVOLVED IN THIS.
UM, IT WAS ALSO CALLED VISUALIZATION GROUP.
THERE WERE SEVERAL NAMES, BUT, UM, I THINK WE LANDED ON COMMUNICATIONS AS THE EASIEST ONE, UM, TO KEEP IN MIND.
AND, UM, WE MET WITH THE CITY.
WHAT IS HER, WHAT IS HER TITLE? UH, COMMUNICATIONS TEAM.
UM, UH, ABOUT HOW WE CAN WORK TOGETHER AS A, AS A COMMUNICATIONS GROUP, LIKE IN THE COMMUNITY AND THEN WITH, WITH THE CITY.
AND, UM, I MENTIONED THIS A LITTLE BIT BEFORE, BUT BASICALLY THE, THE PLAN THAT RIGHT NOW WE'RE THINKING WE'RE GOING TO IMPLEMENT IS HAVING, UM, HAVING STUFF LAID OUT FOR THE YEAR.
AND PROBABLY IT'S GONNA BE QUARTERLY, BUT I THINK THAT'S, WE'RE STILL SORT OF TRYING TO DECIDE WHAT THE EXACT RIGHT AMOUNT OF TIME IS LIKE, UM, TO BE PROGRESSING THROUGH THESE, UM, COMMUNICATIONS BLITZES.
UM, AND WE'RE, A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE PARTICIPATING IN THIS ARE, ARE PARTS OF, UM, ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT ARE WORK, DOING GOOD WORK IN, IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE DAILY ACTS LIKE, UM, BLUE ZONES, LIKE, UM, UH, WHAT'S THAT COOL PETALUMA? COOL PETALUMA, YEAH.
JUST ALL, ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE DOING DIFFERENT THINGS IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND SO, UM, THAT'S GONNA HELP US, UM, DEVELOP, UH, LIKE A LIST OF, UM, DIFFERENT AVENUES FOR INFORMATION.
UM, AND SO HERE'S ALL THE DI DIGITAL MARKET OR DIGITAL MEDIA, UM, THINGS THAT WE CAN PUSH OUT THERE.
AND HERE'S ALL OF THE NEWSLETTERS WE CAN PUSH OUT THERE.
AND HERE'S ALL THE PRINT MEDIA WE CAN PUSH OUT THERE.
AND HERE'S ALL THE, UM, LIKE GROUPS IN PETALUMA THAT MEET.
SO THERE'S THE BOWLING CLUB AND THERE'S THE, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE DIFFERENT PEOPLE AND, AND SORT OF HOW YOU CAN GET THE INFORMATION IN A PERSONAL, LIKE THERE'S THAT LITTLE KNITTING STORE DOWNTOWN.
UM, HOW, HOW YOU CAN GET THAT INTERPERSONAL INFORMATION OUT TO PEOPLE.
UM, AND SO THAT'S WHERE, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.
HAVE MEETING NEXT WEEK TO CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION.
YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT ENERGY? I DON'T, DEANNA YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT ENERGY? ENERGY? YEAH.
WAS THAT ONE OF THE WORK? YEAH.
YEAH, IT'S A WORKING, I THINK MAYBE IT'S NOT AN AD HOC, BUT IT'S, YEAH, IT'S ON AN AD HOC.
WELL I'LL JUST GIVE ONE LITTLE THING ABOUT THAT, WHICH IS THAT, UM, UH, WE ARE WORKING ON, WELL THIS IS KIND OF WHAT, YEAH.
WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT WAS, WE'RE WORKING ABOUT, WE'RE WORKING ON, UM, MAKING EV CHARGERS EASIER TO INSTALL BY LIKE STREAMLINING THE PERMIT PROCESS.
AND THAT'S REALLY, UH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GORDY'S BABY MUSIC TO MY EARS.
YEAH,
SO THEY, THEY WANNA, THEY WANNA DO THIS TOO.
THEY WANNA MAKE EVERYTHING EASIER FOR PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY CLIMATE ACTION.
'CAUSE IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR THEM TO MAKE THEIR GOALS, RIGHT? SO IT'S JUST A LOVELY COLLABORATION, I THINK THAT'S HAPPENING.
UM, THE OTHER THING, SINCE I HAVE THE FLOOR HERE, I DO WANNA POINT OUT, BECAUSE I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THIS, AND JUST IN CASE ANY OF YOU DON'T, THE CITY HAS A WEBPAGE ON HERE THAT SAYS ALL THE WORK THEY'RE DOING ON ALL THE DIFFERENT, UM, BLUEPRINT ITEMS,
SO WE DO HAVE LIKE A REALLY, LIKE, PRETTY UP TO DATE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW OFTEN YOU UPDATE IT EVERY COUPLE MONTHS OR SOMETHING.
OF LIKE ALL THE WORK THEY'RE DOING AND THEY'RE DOING A LOT OF WORK.
SO I DO, THAT IS ONE KIND OF BONUS I THINK OF MEETING LESS OFTEN IS THAT THAT'S LESS TIME FOR THEM TO BE PUTTING THIS MEETING TOGETHER AND MORE TIME FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY TAKE ACTIONS.
SO I LIKE, I LIKE THE PLAN THAT WE'RE GOING FORWARD WITH ANY OTHER, UM, THINGS ANYBODY WANTS TO SAY ON THE AD HOCS? OKAY.
THERE IS ONE MORE, RIGHT? THERE'S THE, WELL, IT'S A WORKING GROUP ON THE, UM, HEALTHY SOILS, RIGHT? SO IT'S NOT AN AD HOC.
DO, DO YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THAT OR? YEAH, I THINK THAT'S, UM, MAKING A QUICK NOTE DISTINCTION BETWEEN AD HOCS, WHICH ARE FORMAL GROUPS OF THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION VERSUS THESE WORKING GROUPS ARE PART OF, UH,
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UH, DIFFERENT, JUST ALL THE CLIMATE GROUPS IN THE C COMMUNITY COMING TOGETHER AND WORKING ON PROJECTS, UH, AND THE HEALTHY SOILS, UH, WORKING GROUP IS ALIGNED WITH OUR GRAZING.IT STARTED WITH OUR GRAZING MASTER PLAN, UH, THAT, UH, THERE WAS, THIS WAS THE CLIMATE, THE LAST CLIMATE ROUND TABLE.
THERE WAS A WORKING GROUP THAT THEY PRESENTED THE WHAT WAS GONNA BE HAPPENING WITH THE GRAZING MASTER PLAN THAT WE ARE CREATING A FIRST OF ITS KIND THAT WILL HAVE OUR SHEEP, UH, COMING AROUND IN GRAZING IN THE APPROPRIATE PLACES THAT SHEEP CAN BE GRAZED IN.
AND THE GOAL IS TO HAVE THEM NOT HAVE TO GET INTO VEHICLES AS OFTEN AS POSSIBLE.
UH, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THERE WAS A, A GRANT THROUGH THE SUSTAINABLE DEPARTMENT OF PESTICIDES RATE REDUCTION THROUGH THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, I THINK.
YEAH, IT'S A, IT, IT'S BASICALLY A PESTICIDES, UM, IP INTEGRATED PEST MANAGEMENT RELATED GRANT RESEARCH GRANT THAT USUALLY GOES TO RESEARCH GROUPS.
UH, THE CITY APPLIED WITH, UH, POINT BLUE AND, UH, THE MARINE CARBON, UH, GROUP AND, UM, THE, UH, PETALUMA CITY SCHOOLS, WHICH WILL BE THE STUDENT RESEARCHERS WITH THE REAL SCIENTISTS, UH, THAT ARE A PART OF POINT BLUE.
UH, THE, THE PREMISE OF THE GRANT WAS BASICALLY IF WE MAKE THE SOILS HEALTHY, WE NEED, WE CAN APPLY LESS, UH, PESTICIDES, UH, THE NEED FOR ANY TYPE OF APPLICATION.
WE ALREADY HAVE THAT, BUT THIS IS THE IDEAS THAT WE ACTUALLY ARE TESTING IT SO THAT WE CAN APPLY IT THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
UH, AND TO DO 10 ACRES, UH, RESEARCH PROJECT OF WHAT DID THE SOIL, WHAT WAS THE SOIL TESTING BEFORE? UH, THAT'S WHAT THE STUDENTS WILL HELP WITH.
UH, AND, UH, AND THEN AFTER, AFTER, UH, A CERTAIN, I WANNA SAY IT'S ONE INCH OF COMPOST APPLICATION, THE RESEARCH SHOWS THAT IT BRINGS BACK HEALTHY, IT BRINGS BACK THE SOIL HEALTH.
UH, AND THE IDEA IS THAT THIS IS, CAN BE A, A VERY LARGE CARBON SEQUESTRATION OPPORTUNITY, UH, THAT WE WOULD BE MODELING WHAT ALL JURISDICTIONS COULD DO.
UH, THAT'S A GRANT THAT WE'LL HEAR IN THE SPRING, UH, IF WE GET IT OR NOT.
BUT IT WAS A VERY QUICK CAME OUT OF A WORKING GROUP.
THIS IS THE POWER OF WORKING GROUPS, IS THAT IT WAS PEOPLE THAT HAD, UH, SHARED INTEREST AND THERE WAS A GRANT OPPORTUNITY THAT IT MATCHED.
PEOPLE STEPPED UP REALLY QUICKLY AND APPLIED.
UM, EVEN WITH, UH, NRCS IS IN THERE A LITTLE BIT, THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER GROUPS THAT ARE A PART OF ALL OF THIS BECAUSE OF THE, THE WORK WE'VE BEEN LEADING ON WITH, UH, THE GRAZING MASTER PLAN.
THAT WAS THE FOUNDATION, UH, PROJECT.
THAT'S A PROJECT THAT'S NOT EVEN DONE YET AT GRAZING MASTER PLAN, BUT THAT IS UNDERWAY.
IT, IT'S, IT WAS ANOTHER ONE THEY'VE ALL SORT OF CONDENSED DOWN IN NAME, BUT THAT ONE WAS GRAZING AND, UH, COMPOST EQUALS HEALTHY SOILS
AND SO THAT WORKING GROUP INCLUDES, UH, A VARIETY OF RANCHERS AND, UH, RESEARCHERS, UH, COMING TOGETHER AND WORKING ON THAT.
BUT THE FUN PART IS, IS KIDS WILL BE DOING SOME OF THE REAL SCIENCE WITH IT.
UM, I WILL CLOSE THAT ITEM OUT AND WE'RE MOVING ON TO COMMISSION COMMENT.
MEMBERS ARE INVITED TO BRIEFLY SHARE UPDATES RELEVANT TO THIS COMMISSION, INCLUDING LIAISON REPORTS FROM OTHER CITY BODIES AND MAKE REQUESTS FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. DIALOGUE BETWEEN MEMBERS SHOULD BE LIMITED TO CLARIFYING QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS.
THERE'LL BE NO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.
WHO WOULD LIKE TO START? COMMISSION COMMENT? YEAH, GO AHEAD JUDGE.
UM, JUST THE MEETING THAT I WAS AT, UH, THIS AFTERNOON WAS THE, UH, STATE OF HOUSING BY GEN H, UH, GENERATIONAL HOUSING HERE, UM, GROUP, THEY HAVE BEEN IN ACTION FOR SIX YEARS AND THEY'RE SUPPORTING LOTS OF THINGS.
IT WAS DONE AT REDWOOD CREDIT UNION OFFICE IN SANTA ROSA.
AND ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT THE, UM, THE EXECUTIVE, THE CEO OF, OF REDWOOD CREDIT UNION CAME UP AND SAID THEY'RE THE LARGEST, UM, FOLKS TO GIVE LOANS FOR HOUSING IN, IN SONOMA COUNTY BY A FACTOR OF, UH, THESE, OF, OF A HUGE FACTOR COMPARED TO NUMBER TWO OUT THERE.
SO, UM, SO THEY'RE HUGE IN HOUSING.
AND THE RESULTS OF THEIR STUDIES THAT DONE THIS LAST YEAR IS WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED MOVING FORWARD IS NOT NECESSARILY REAL HIGH RISE BUILDINGS OF APARTMENTS, NOT GOING OUTSIDE OF URBAN GROWTH BOUNDARIES.
BUT TWO THINGS WOULD BE INFILL, UH, HOUSING AND ADUS.
THEY ACTUALLY, AND, UH, THEY, THEY'RE SUPPORTING THE CONCEPT, WHICH IS WHAT WE DON'T HAVE HERE YET, BUT THAT IS IN A CALIFORNIA, UH, LAW THAT JUST CAME OUT IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, WAS THAT IF YOU BUILD AN A DU, IF THE CITY CHOSE TO, THEY COULD ACTUALLY MAKE THAT INTO A CONDO
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THAT'S SELLABLE AND THAT PARCEL WOULD BE SELLABLE.SO, BUT YOU HAVE, THE CITY HAS TO OPT INTO THAT, BUT THAT'S WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED NOW.
UH, SEBASTOPOL IS GONNA BE MOVING FORWARD AND DOING THAT IN, IN DECEMBER, THIS NEXT MONTH.
THAT'S, THAT'S COMING UP AT THEIR COUNCIL MEETING.
AND SO THEY WANNA PUSH THAT CONCEPT FORWARD AND THEY SAID ACROSS THE BOARD, IF YOU, WE DO THAT BECAUSE AS A SEPARATE PROPERTY, YOU ACTUALLY GET PROPERTY TAXES OFF OF THAT.
AND THEN THEY SAID, IF WE JUST DO 2% OF THE HOUSING DID THAT ACROSS THE COUNTY, THAT THERE'S A HUGE AMOUNT OF, THERE'S LIKE FOR THE COUNTY, LIKE $65 MILLION MORE INCOME IN, IN PROPERTY TAXES FOR THE COUNTY.
AND THEN FOR US HERE IN PETALUMA WOULD BE, UM, LIKE, UH, UM, LIKE, UH, A HUGE NUMBER.
IT'S LIKE, LIKE $10 MILLION MIGHT BY, BY COMING IN OVER TIME, BY HAVING OUR ADUS ACTUALLY FOR PROPERTY TAXES.
BUT THE KEY WOULD BE TO SEPARATE IT FROM, UM, FROM THE HOUSE AS, AS A SEPARATE PROPERTY AND HAVE IT ITS OWN PROPERTY TAX ON IT.
BUT THAT'S WHAT'S BEING RECOMMENDED.
UM, IT'S A STATE HAS SAID, MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, PLEASE.
AND TO ENCOURAGE THE FOLKS, 'CAUSE THE VALUE OF OF THE TOTAL PROPERTY, UM, OF THE WHOLE PARCEL GOES WAY, WAY UP ALSO.
THEY ALSO ARE PROMOTING THAT THE BEST WAY IS NOT NECESSARILY THESE BIG HUGE APARTMENT COMPLEX BLOCKS, BUT RATHER, UM, MULTIPLEXES.
SO DOING A DIVISION ON ONE OR TWO CURRENT PARCELS, EITHER COMBINING ONE OR TWO, UH, TOGETHER OR JUST ONE ALONE, BUT PUTTING, UH, UP TO 10 UNITS WITHIN THAT.
SO A SMALL APARTMENT TYPE BUILDINGS, UH, NOT BIG TALL THINGS, BUT SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE MORE COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THAT, UM, AND THEN THE NUMBERS ROLL OUT AS BEING ALSO, UM, BOTH THE PROPERTY VALUES AND THE AMOUNT OF INCOME THAT YOU WOULD RECEIVE FROM THAT IN PROPERTY TAXES BY HAVING A PROPERTY SUBDIVIDED INTO SMALLER UNITS IS HUGE.
AGAIN, UH, MULTIPLE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IF TAX INCOME COULD BE DONE TO THAT.
JUST PROPERTY TAXES AS WELL AS PROVIDING HOUSING THAT'S NEEDED.
UM, AND THE NEW NUMBER THEY JUST CAME UP WITH, WHICH IS BASICALLY THE SAME NUMBER AS BEFORE, AND THEY DID SOME, THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO OR THREE NEW WAYS OF ACTUALLY ANALYZING WHAT'S NEEDED HERE WITHIN SONOMA COUNTY.
AND THEN, UH, REMEMBER WE'RE THE SECOND LARGEST CITY IN SONOMA COUNTY, BUT THE COUNTY ITSELF NEEDS TO PUT IN 50,000 HOUSING UNITS OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS IS WHAT, WHAT WE REALLY NEED FOR OUR ECONOMY AND FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE COMMUTING LONG DISTANCES TO DO THAT.
UM, SO IT'S ALL RELATED AND HOUSING IS INTERRELATED TO EVERYTHING, INCLUDING CLIMATE CHANGE.
SO MAKING HOUSING MORE, UM, AVAILABLE THAT WAY AND THEN BRING DOWN, BRING IT INTO MORE OF AFFORDABILITY.
THAT IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO DO, WHICH IS A HUGE LIFT.
SO, UM, A COUPLE WAYS OF DOING THAT, BUT THAT'S THE, THEY FIGURED IT'S GONNA BE FASTER AND EASIER TO DO THE SMALLER MULTIPLEXES THAN TRYING TO GET SOMEONE TO DO A 10 OR $50 MILLION COMPLEX, UH, OF SOME SORT.
UM, SO THEY SAID THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THE PREFERRED MOVEMENT FORWARD NOW.
UH, SO THEY SAID THEY WANTED TO BUST THE MYTH THERE ABOUT, OH, WE HAVE TO DO THE, THIS HUGE HIGH DENSITY TALL BUILDINGS ONLY, UM, TYPE THING.
SO THAT'S, AND THE REPORT JUST OFF PRE APPRENTICE CAME OUT TODAY.
THIS WAS HANDED TO US TODAY, STATE OF HOUSING, WHICH I'M GOING TO GIVE TO STAFF TO USE 'CAUSE THIS IS AN EXTRA, I BOUGHT BROUGHT TWO, SO YOU'VE GOT ONE YOURSELF HIDE OFF HOT THE PRESS ON THAT.
UM, OKAY, SO THAT WAS THE HOUSING MEETING.
I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE, ON THE AB 10 33 A DU CONDO LAW.
IS THE COUNTY PURSUING THAT AS WELL? COUNTY INCORPORATED.
ANYWAY, THERE'S GONNA BE PUSH GENERATION H IS GONNA BE PUSHING IT THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE COUNTY.
BOTH AT THE COUNTY LEVEL AND AT THE CITY LEVEL TO MOVE FORWARD ON THAT.
UM, ALSO THERE'S A MEETING COMING UP NEXT MONTH.
SORRY, I HAVE TOM, SORRY, I THOUGHT I WAS ON.
UM, THERE'S A MEETING ABOUT LAWN AND GARDEN EQUIPMENT AT THE STATE LEVEL TO CONVERT OVER TO E ELECTRIC, UH, AND MAYBE SOME, WHAT PROGRAMS MIGHT BECOME AVAILABLE.
AND SO THERE'S A, UM, LIKE A WEBINAR COMING UP ON THAT STATE LEVEL.
UM, SO THAT'S A NEW THING THAT, UH, ANOTHER MOVE FORWARD IN THAT PROGRAM.
UM, JUST TO SAY, I'VE GOT, UH, I DID PRODUCE A VIDEO ON, ON E-BIKES THAT'S OUT THERE TO TRY TO PROMOTE THAT.
AND I TALKED TO, UM, AARON AT MOTORWORKS AND HE MAY USE THAT, BUT HE, AARON AT MOTORWORKS IS ALSO PART OF THE, THE POLICE ACADEMY I'M IN.
AND APPARENTLY E-BIKE SAFETY AND E-BIKE REGULATIONS IS A HOT TOPIC AMONGST THE PARTICIPANTS IN THE POLICE ACADEMY.
UH, SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE MAY BE WANTING TO THINK ABOUT WORKING ON OF, UH, HOW WE CAN PROMOTE ELECTRIC VEHICLES AT THE SMALLER SITE.
UM, THERE'S ALSO A, UM, A CLIMATE ACTION VIDEO THAT, UH, THAT I PARTICIPATED IN TO HELP ACTUALLY GET STARTED THAT'S BEING DONE, THAT WAS DONE BY HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS FROM THREE SEPARATE HIGH SCHOOLS IN THE BAY AREA, RUN AND PRODUCED BY A GAL THAT'S OVER IN DANVILLE.
AND THAT WAS COMPLETED AND HAS BEEN SUBMITTED TO SUNDANCE FOR, UH, FOR THE FILM FESTIVAL.
SO HOPEFULLY, UM, SO IT'S NOW COMPLETED AND, AND SUBMITTED.
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WHEN WE FIND OUT IF IT GOES TO SUNDANCE, THEY HAVE TO SEE IT FIRST.IT HAS TO BE PREMIER THERE FIRST, BUT THEN HOPEFULLY WE'LL COME HERE TO PETALUMA AFTER THAT IS DONE, AFTER SUNDANCE IS OVER.
SO ANYWAY, THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S I THOUGHT WAS PRETTY GOOD NEWS.
UM, I DID MEET, THERE'S ACTUALLY A ROTARY NATIONAL LEVEL, UM, COMMITTEE THAT'S WORKING ON CLIMATE RESTORATION.
THAT'S, UH, THAT'S, UM, A COMBINATION OF BOTH CLIMATE ACTIONS, BUT MOSTLY ACTUALLY CLIMATE RESTORATION AT THE GLOBAL LEVEL.
AND SINCE ROTARY IS AN INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATION, AND THAT IS AN INTERNATIONAL, UM, GOAL IS TO HELP RESTORE THE CLIMATE.
AND SO WHAT CAN BE DONE THERE? SO DOING THINGS ABOUT THE OCEAN, ABOUT FORESTS, ABOUT GRAZING LANDS, ABOUT CARBON CAPTURE AND SOILS.
SO THOSE ARE THE BIG THINGS THAT THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT, NOT JUST THE LOCAL THINGS WE CAN DO OURSELVES.
SO THAT GROUP HAS, UH, I LOOKED AT WHAT THEY WERE TRYING TO DO, BUT THEY'VE BOUGHT INTO THE, UM, THE CLIMATE RESTORATION MOVEMENT.
AND SO THEY'RE PROMOTING THAT THROUGHOUT ALL THE ROTARIES AND THAT'S GOING INTERNATIONALLY.
SO THERE'S A GROUP HERE NATIONALLY THAT'S WORKING ON IT.
UM, AND I ACTUALLY PARTICIPATED IN THEIR, UH, RECENT WEBINAR AND THEY'VE INVITED ME BACK TO EVEN CONTINUE TO CONTRIBUTE, UM, TO SHARE THE, WHAT'S HAPPENING AT LOCAL LEVELS AND MAYBE GIVE IDEAS.
UM, AND I SHARED THE IDEAS OF THE, UM, UH, EV'S DEALERSHIP TO GET THE, UH, WHAT I CALL GAP VEHICLES BETWEEN E-BIKES AND CARS.
UM, AND ACTUALLY I ASKED, UH, UH, A CITY MANAGER, UH, PEGGY ABOUT THAT.
AND, UH, AND SHE LIKED THE IDEA.
AND SO I'M GONNA ACTUALLY, I, I'M PROBABLY GONNA GO OUT THERE AND START TALK TO A COUPLE OF THE, UH, DEALERSHIP OWNERS HERE, BOTH AT THE MOTORCYCLE LEVEL, BIKE LEVEL, AND DEAL ON CAR LEVEL.
SO I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA GO GO.
I'VE ALREADY COMMITTED TO DOING THAT NOW.
UM, AND UM, AND THE OTHER THING THAT'S COMING UP ON MONDAY, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, I THINK WE NEED TO PARTICIPATE IN, WHICH IS GONNA BE A HUGE, IS A, THE D STREET, UM, UH, DATA THAT THE PROJECT TO STUDY THE D STREET, WHAT'S THE PROJECT THAT'S GOING ON IS NOT RECOMMENDATIONS FOR WHAT IT IS OR WHAT'S COMING FORWARD, BUT JUST THE DATA OF WHAT'S BEEN COLLECTED AND, AND, UH, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S WORKING OR NOT, WHAT WE PUT IN AS A PILOT PROJECT ON D STREET, WHICH ALSO PROBABLY THEY'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT, PROBABLY ABOUT I STREET AND ALSO FIFTH STREET AT THE BIKEWAYS.
SO THAT'S A HUGE MOVEMENT HERE IN TOWN FOR KINDA RESTRUCTURING OUR, UM, AND SO IT'S GONNA BE A PRETTY HOT TOPIC.
I THINK A LOT OF FOLKS ARE PRO TO, SOME FOLKS ARE GONE.
AND ANYWAY, SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE PARTICIPATION IN THAT AND MAYBE WRITING THINGS UP OF, OF HOW YOU SUPPORT THE ACTUAL, UM, STRUCTURES THAT HAVE BEEN PUT UP FOR THE SAFETY OF PEDESTRIANS AND WHICH HELP PROMOTE A RESTRUCTURING OF ALL OF OUR STREETS HERE IN TOWN.
THIS IS LIKE A PILOT PROJECT THAT'S THAT, DO WE WANT TO APPLY IT TO A LOT OF OTHER STREETS OR NOT? SO ANYWAY, I, I WOULD ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO LOOK AT, UH, WATCH IT AND MAYBE EVEN GIVE SOME INPUT BEFORE OR AFTER THAT ON, UH, DO YOU LIKE THE AMOUNT OF EFFORT GOING IN AND ALL THE LINING, THE REFLECTORS, THE STRUCTURES, UM, THAT ARE GOING IN, UM, FOR, FOR BOTH PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND FOR BIKE PASS AND ALSO FOR CAR SAFETY FOR FOLKS, UH, PARKING AND, AND GETTING IN AND OUT OF CARS, UH, FOR THEIR SAFETY ALSO.
SO ANYWAY, THAT, THAT'S COMING UP ON MONDAY.
SO ANYWAY, THOSE ARE THE TOPICS I, I THOUGHT I'D JUST BRING, BRING FORWARD TO YOU.
ANY OTHER COMMISSION COMMENT? SURE.
UH, JUST, UH, UH, ON A PERSONAL NOTE, UH, TOMORROW MORNING, UH, HAVING A CONTRACTOR COME OUT AND INSTALL OUR HEAT PUMP WATER HEATER.
AND, UH, WE'LL NOW HAVE OUR SOLAR PLUS HEAT PUMP WATER HEATER AT THE HOUSE.
UH, I CAME ACROSS A NEW PRODUCT THAT, UH, I'M VERY MUCH LOOKING INTO.
I'VE WANTED TO START PUBLICIZING, EVANGELIZING.
IT'S, UH, CALLED THE PILA PILA.
AND THE WAY IT'S DESCRIBED IS LIKE A QUARTER POWER WALL.
AND WHAT'S COOL ABOUT IT IS YOU JUST LITERALLY PLUG IT INTO THE WALL AND IT'S A, BASICALLY A PORTABLE BATTERY, BUT THEN YOU JUST PLUG IT INTO WHATEVER HOUSEHOLD ITEM YOU WANT.
IT, IT'S KIND OF DESIGNED TO LIKE, FIT ON TOP OF YOUR FRIDGE.
AND IT HAS THE ABILITY OF BASICALLY, UH, USING ELECTRICITY WHEN IT'S CHEAP AND MORE, UH, RENEWABLE.
AND THEN IT WILL DISCHARGE, UH, WHEN PRICES ARE HIGHER AND LESS RENEWABLE LIKE AT NIGHT.
AND SO IT'S KIND OF A COOL PRODUCT BECAUSE IT'S AT, UH, $1,300.
IT'S WAY LESS EXPENSIVE THAN A POWERWALL OR, YOU KNOW, LIKE A HOME BAT, A BIG HOME BATTERY THAT YOU NEED A PERMIT FOR AND LOTS OF, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE EXPENSIVE.
IT'S JUST, AND IT, AND YEAH, IT'S, IT'S A WHOLE THING VERSUS THIS WHERE YOU CAN LITERALLY JUST PLUG IT INTO 1 1 20, UH, OUTLET AND THEN IT'S A, AN EMERGENCY BACKUP BATTERY FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR HOME, ESPECIALLY FOR THE FRIDGE, RIGHT.
WHICH IS, IF THE POWER GOES OUT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, IS, IS GONNA BE REALLY HELPFUL.
IT DOESN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO, UH, BACK FEED BACK INTO THE GRID AND BASICALLY SELL YOUR ELECTRICITY.
I THINK IT'S, IT'S AT THE, AT THAT, AT THAT PRICE, IT'S STILL PRETTY COOL.
SO I WANTED TO JUST KIND OF LET FOLKS
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KNOW ABOUT THAT.I'LL BE LOOKING INTO IT IF I DO END UP INSTALLING ONE, I CAN KIND OF, UH, GIVE, GIVE OUT MY EXPERIENCE.
UH, SO THAT'S ALL I HAD, BUT I'M EXCITED FOR TOMORROW.
ANY OTHER COMMISSION COMMENT? NO.
UM, I'LL JUST, UH, SINCE NATASHA'S NOT HERE, I'M JUST GONNA PLUG COOL PETALUMA EVENTS THAT ARE COMING UP.
THERE WAS THE COOL BIZ OPEN HOUSE THAT HAPPENED ON WEDNESDAY, WAS THAT LAST NIGHT? ONLY? NO, TUESDAY.
UM, AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE TRYING TO GET BUSINESSES TOGETHER TO BE SORT OF BRINGING EACH OTHER UP AND NETWORKING WITH EACH OTHER AND HELPING EACH OTHER SUCCEED AND, YOU KNOW, BE MORE RENEWABLE.
UM, AND THEN THE SHINDIG, WHICH IS THEIR ANNUAL, UM, STAKEHOLDER, UH, PARTY IS HAPPENING ON DECEMBER 4TH FROM FIVE 30 TO SEVEN 30 AT THE HALL OF THE ABOVE.
THEY JUST ANNOUNCED SOMETHING FUN ABOUT THAT.
AND I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS.
DO YOU REMEMBER WHISKEY TASTING? OH, THE WHISKEY TASTING, YEAH.
UM, SO THEN WE'RE MOVING ON TO STAFF COMMENT.
UM, I APPLIED FOR, AND WAS ACCEPTED TO BE ON THE BAY AREA AIR QUALITY MANAGEMENT DISTRICT'S KNOX WORKING GROUP.
UM, AND THAT IS, THERE ARE REGULATIONS THAT ARE COMING UP, UM, IN THE NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE.
ONE OF 'EM IS 2027, UM, WHERE, UM, WATER HEATERS CANNOT BE SOLD THAT ARE GAS IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
AND, UM, FURNACES CANNOT BE, UM, INSTALLED THAT ARE GAS.
SO, AND THAT'S, UM, RESIDENTIAL.
UM, AND SO THAT'S, THEY'RE WORKING ON REGULATIONS OF IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT.
THERE'S, THERE'S DIFFERENT TIMELINES FOR, FOR BOTH OF THOSE.
UM, RIGHT NOW THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT FURNACES.
UM, AND I THINK I VOLUNTEERED TO BE ON BOTH THE, THE RESIDENTIAL AND THE NON-RESIDENTIAL SUBCOMMITTEES ON THOSE.
SO, UM, I THINK I'M GONNA BE LEARNING A LOT ABOUT BACK MED REGULATIONS.
UM, I HAVE ASKED AND WAS BEING, WAS TOLD NO THAT THEY ARE NOT CONSIDERING THE, UM, LIKE, UH, COOKING, UH, APPLIANCES.
SO STOVES AND OVENS AREN'T PART OF THAT.
UM, DRYERS OTHER INTERNAL, UM, APPLIANCES WITHIN THE HOUSE ARE NOT PART OF THOSE REGULATIONS.
UM, BUT
AND THERE CAN BE HEALTH IMPACTS AS A RESULT OF THAT, UM, SPECIFICALLY WITH ASTHMA, UM, AND OTHER RESPIRATORY ISSUES.
UM, I WAS, YOU KNOW, HONORED TO BE ON THAT.
UM, WE'RE, WE'RE MEETING A FEW TIMES OVER, I THINK ABOUT 10 MONTHS.
UM, THERE'S SUBCOMMITTEES LIKE I MENTIONED, AND YEAH, WE'RE JUST REALLY GONNA GET INTO THE NITTY GRITTY OF THAT.
AND, UM, YEAH, EVERY CHANCE I'LL GET, I'LL BE PUSHING FOR INCLUDING OTHER THINGS, BUT I THINK THEY'RE ALREADY A LITTLE TIRED OF ME ASKING ABOUT THAT.
UM, MOVING ON, UH, FLOATING SOLAR, THE PROJECT IS COMPLETE.
I THINK THERE'S A, WE'RE JUST ABOUT FINISHED WITH COMMISSIONING OF IT.
UM, AND THE PROJECT IS GOING TO BE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL ON DECEMBER 1ST FOR THE COMPLETION.
UM, SO THAT'S REALLY EXCITING.
IT'S, IT'S AMAZING TO GO OUT THERE AND JUST SEE
I I, I GOT AN INVITATION TO MAYBE GO SEE IT.
SORRY, WE GONNA MENTION THAT THERE'S, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT LIKE AN OPEN HOUSE INVITATION.
UM, BUT YEAH, NEXT THURSDAY IS, UH, AWAY FROM TODAY IS WHEN THERE'LL BE A, UM, A SMALL GATHERING OF FOLKS ABOUT THAT.
AND THEN, SO, SO THAT'S ALL ON FLOATING SOLAR.
UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION ABOUT THE GENERAL PLAN.
UM, THE GENERAL PLAN LAND USE DISCUSSION IS HAPPENING AT THE CITY COUNCIL ON DECEMBER 15TH, SO, UM, A LITTLE OVER A MONTH FROM NOW.
SO JUST PUTTING THAT ON YOUR RADARS AND YOUR CALENDARS.
DEB, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? UM, LET'S SEE.
I WAS TRYING, I WAS LOOKING THROUGH THE CALENDAR.
UH, SO WE DIDN'T MEET IN OCTOBER, SO, UM, UH, IN BEGINNING,
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UH, END OF SEPTEMBER, EARLY OCTOBER, UM, I WENT AND PRESENTED AT THE AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION CALIFORNIA CONFERENCE ABOUT, UH, THAT SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT THAT IS STILL, UH, VERY MUCH UNDERWAY.UH, OUR PRIORITY CONSERVATION AREA DESIGNATION WAS ACCEPTED AND NOW THE GRANT IS OPEN.
UH, WELL THE LETTER OF INTENTS OUR NEXT, UH, TO APPLY FOR THAT.
AND SO THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF GOOD, UH, WORK HAPPENING AROUND THAT PROJECT WITHIN THE, UH, COORDINATION WITHIN THE CITY ABOUT THE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN.
AND THIS IS WHERE THE URBAN FORESTRY MANAGEMENT PLAN FITS IN.
AND, UH, LOOKING AT VARIOUS FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES LIKE EXTREME HEAT, UH, GRANTS THAT ARE COMING OUT AND SEEING, JUST MAKING SURE WE'RE ALIGNING OURSELVES AND HAVING PROJECT READINESS FOR THAT, UH, HAPPENING.
UM, SO THAT'S BEEN, UH, UH, STUFF UNDERWAY.
UM, ALSO WANTED TO MENTION, UH, WE'VE, UH, CAPSTONE, UH, PROJECTS HAVE BEEN, UH, HAPPENING.
THIS CITY HAS BEEN, WE HAD OUR FIRST ONE YOU'LL HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, COUNCILMAN SCHIBS ON, UH, SOON AS A CITY COUNCIL, BUT I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE FUN TO SHARE WITH ALL OF YOU.
IS THAT LAST, UH, THURSDAY? WELL, IT ACTUALLY HAPPENED A FEW WEEKS AGO.
UH, WE HAVE A BIOMASS TO BIOFUEL, UH, PROJECT OUT AT ELLIS CREEK, UH, THAT, UM, WE DID A, NOT, NOT ME, THIS WAS THE ENGINEERS WENT AND PRESENTED TO THE CAPSTONE.
THE KIDS WERE OFFERED TO COME AND HEAR ABOUT THE PROJECT THAT THEY NEEDED A AND THEY'RE LOOKING FOR INPUT ON, UH, FROM A STUDENT PERSPECTIVE.
AND THE STUDENTS, ABOUT 20 TO EIGHT TO 30 KIDS CAME TO THE FIRST MEETING.
UH, AND THEN THEY WERE ASKED TO, IF THEY WANTED TO GO FARTHER AND ACTUALLY PARTICIPATE MORE IN THE, IN LEARNING MORE ABOUT THE PROJECT AND ACTUALLY GIVE INPUT ON IT, THEY GAVE A TOUR OUT AT ELLIS CREEK, UH, WITH THE ENGINEERS AND THE STUDENTS LEARNED WHAT BIOMASS IS AND WHAT IS THE OUTCOME, WHICH IS BIOFUEL AND THAT, UM, AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT, UH, WHAT ARE THE ALTERNATIVES FOR THAT PROJECT? AND SO THAT WAS REALLY GREAT TO HAVE THE KIDS GIVING INPUT ON IT.
UH, AND UM, THAT JUST HAPPENED ON THURSDAY.
WE HAVE TWO MORE PROJECTS HAPPENING WITH CAPSTONES, UH, THAT ARE LIKE COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS TYPE OF PROJECTS THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR STUDENT INPUT ON.
SO WE'RE GIVING 'EM, THE TEACHERS ARE EXCITED 'CAUSE IT'S REAL PROJECTS THAT WE NEED REAL INPUT ON.
AND SO THE KIDS ARE BEING ABLE TO, UH, GOING TO BE ABLE TO, UH, PARTICIPATE ON THAT, GIVES THEM THEIR CIVIC ENGAGEMENT, UH, CORNERSTONE THAT THEY HAVE TO HIT.
THEY HAVE TO HIT FOUR ELEMENTS WITHIN THE CAPSTONE.
UM, SO THOSE ARE SOME FUN THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING.
UM, AND UM, THERE WAS ONE OTHER, HMM, I THINK I'LL LEAVE IT THERE.
OH, THE, JUST AGAIN, THE, THE PCS CLIMATE, UH, RESOLUTION THAT WAS PASSED, UH, IN THE SUMMER, THE TASK FORCE STARTS NEXT WEEK.
UH, AND THE, THE IDEA IS TO ALIGN IT WITH SIMILAR TO THE CITY'S BLUEPRINT AND SO THAT WE'RE WORKING LOCKSTEP, THAT IT'S, UH, A COORDINATED EFFORT AND, UH, SO THAT'LL BE HAPPENING NEXT WEEK.
AND I THINK THAT'S ALL I CAN THINK OF OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD AND ALL THESE AMAZING WORKING GROUPS THAT ARE HAPPENING.
AND IT'S JUST BEEN GREAT TO HAVE THE PARTICIPATION THAT OF, OF THAT IS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE INTERESTED IN WANTING TO GET INVOLVED.
SO I, I ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO PARTICIPATE IF YOU AREN'T ALREADY.
I FORGOT TO ADD A COUPLE MORE THINGS.
UM, RELIEF IS PLANTING SOME TREES, JUST PLANTED SOME OF WE'RE AT ESE JUST, UH, LAST WEEK AND THERE'S GONNA BE SOME MORE PLANTINGS OVER ON THE EAST SIDE COMING UP.
SO, UM, IF YOU WANNA HELP OUT PLANT TREES, THE THING THAT I JUST SAW, UM, EARLIER, I THINK IT WAS EITHER YESTERDAY OR THIS MORNING, UM, THAT THE, UH, ASSOCIATION OF BAY AREA GOVERNMENTS, ABBA HAS JUST PUBLISHED THE PLAN FOR 2050 FOR THE ENTIRE BAY AREA.
AND IT'S, UH, SO THE DRAFT HAS COME OUT AND LOOKING FOR REVIEWS AND SO THEY'LL BE GOING THROUGH SEVERAL AREAS AND LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK ON IT.
UM, BUT THE TOPICS, MAIN TOPICS ARE GONNA BE HOUSING OF ALL TYPES, PARTICULARLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING, JUST LIKE WE'RE DOING TRANSPORTATION, ESPECIALLY PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AND, UM, GETTING FOLKS, UM, AND THE EMPHASIS IS GONNA BE ON PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION RATHER THAN ON E-BIKES OR ANYTHING ELSE.
BUT THAT PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION FOR THE ENTIRE BAY REGION WAS A VERY CRITICAL, UM, SO THOSE ARE THE TWO HOT, UH, MOST IMPORTANT ISSUES ON THERE.
BUT THERE'S SEVERAL OTHERS THAT ARE LINING UP WITH OUR BLUEPRINT FOR OUR CLIMATE ACTIONS ARE ALSO INCLUDED IN, IN THE LIST OF ALL THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE RECOMMENDING ON THAT.
BUT THOSE ARE THE TWO LARGEST THINGS THAT, UH, THEY WANT THE ENTIRE, ALL THE GOVERNMENTS OF THE BAY AREA TO BE WORKING ON AS THE PRIMARY, UH, THINGS AS WELL AS, UM, OR THE SEA LEVEL RISE AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT, THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.
BUT IT'S NOW AVAILABLE ONLINE IF YOU WANNA GO LOOK AT THE DRAFT LEFT.
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AND I, THAT BRINGS US TO THE ADJOURNMENT FOR THE EVENING, SO I HOPE EVERYBODY HAS A LOVELY THANKSGIVING HOLIDAY AND A GREAT NIGHT.