* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. . [00:00:01] OKAY. UM, MAY THE [CALL TO ORDER] CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLE ABRAMS HERE. ALDEN. OH, IS THAT ME? OH, HERE. YEAH. ALDEN COLE ROSS. HERE. CHE. HERE. TAR VASQUEZ. HERE. QUINT. OKAY, THANK YOU. UM, NOW WE WILL TAKE IT [GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT] TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON ITEMS OF PUBLIC INTEREST THAT ARE WITHIN THE COMMITTEE'S SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION, AND ARE NOT LIMITED ON THE CURRENT AGENDA. PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED UP TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON, DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF PERSONS WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS COMMITTEE. TIME WILL BE ALLOCATED IN EQUAL SHARES TOTALING NO MORE THAN 20 MINUTES SUBJECT TO THE COUNCIL'S DISCRETION. AND I DON'T SEE, DO I HAVE TO FILL OUT CARDS? UH, YES, PLEASE. UHHUH, . YOU CAN DO IT AFTERWARDS, RIGHT? SURE, YEAH, YOU CAN DO IT THEREAFTER. STEPHANIE, DO YOU HAVE A BLUE CARD ON YOUR END? I DON'T AFTER THERE'S SOME ON THE TABLE RIGHT OUTSIDE THE ROOM OUTSIDE, BUT FEEL FREE TO GIVE A COMMENT NOW AND THEN YOU CAN DO IT AFTER IF YOU PREFER. YEAH, THAT WORKS FINE. THERE'S NO WIPE HERE. UM, I'M OKAY. I JUST, I KNOW OFFICIALLY PUT IT OUT THERE. SO MASCOTS, RIGHT? I, UM, SO I TAKE THE GOLDEN GATE TRANSIT TO THE CITY ONCE A WEEK. AND SO GETTING HOME IN THE EVENING WILL BE A LITTLE DIFFICULT. THERE'S NO TRAIN PAST 10 O'CLOCK, RIGHT? 'CAUSE I TAKE THE NINE 40 BUS AT A CIVIC CENTER. SO, UM, I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE BEGINNING TO THINK ABOUT IT. UM, THE, THE NEWSLETTER FROM THE GOLDEN GATE TRANSIT JUST ANNOUNCED IT FOR THE FIRST TIME THIS PAST WEEK AND, AND ALSO SAYING A NEW FERRY IS COMING AND OH, PRETTY OKAY. BUT, UM, THEY'RE TAKING AWAY SOMETHING AND NOT GIVING US BACK. SO I'M HOPING YOU GUYS ARE MORE, UM, INVOLVED WITH, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GONNA BE THE SONOMA COUNTY BUS SYSTEM THAT CONNECTS TO THE BOTTOM, BUT I'M, THEY'RE NEVER GONNA TAKE THE TRAIN. THEY'RE GONNA DRIVE IN THE NEVADA AND PARK IN THE PARKING LOT AT TRADER JOE'S AND GET ON THE BUS THERE. UM, EVEN THOUGH I'M A SENIOR AND I WOULD BE FREE ON THE TRAIN, IT STILL DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME. SO IT'S NOT QUITE THERE YET. AND YET THEY'RE PLANNING IT. THAT'S WHAT I'M, I'M CONFUSED ABOUT IS, IS THE TRAIN DOESN'T GO PAST 10 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT AND THAT'S AT WINDSOR 10 O'CLOCK, RIGHT? SO I'M JUST, UM, OH, I'M PATRICIA WEBB. SORRY. UM, I'M AN EAST SIDE PERSON. I WAS, UM, ON PBA FOR 12 YEARS. SO, UM, I'M USED TO SITTING OVER THERE , BUT NOT FOR A WHILE NOW ANYWAY, UM, SO I'M JUST HOPING THERE'S MORE COMMUNICATION AND MORE THOUGHT PATTERNS. UM, MY QUESTION IS, OKAY, IF THE BUS IS LATE, IS THE TRAIN GET AWAY? IF THE BUS IS LATE, IS THE TRAIN GET AWAY? UM, AND I'M NOT REALLY EXCITED ABOUT GETTING ON THE BUS IN SAN RAFAEL BECAUSE THERE'S 10 PEOPLE OR 20 PEOPLE IN LINE ALREADY, RIGHT? AND I DOUBT THAT SEEING PERSON GET ALONG WITH THOSE PEOPLE MOVE OUT OF THE SENIOR SEATS. SO THERE'S ALL, ALL SORTS OF ISSUES AND ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S LIKE HAPPENING. AND THERE WAS A DATE, REALLY OF APRIL THE 12TH. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE END DATE OR THE START DATE, BUT THAT'S WHAT THE TRANSIT NEWSLETTER SAID. SO I'M ALL FOR MAKING THINGS SIMPLIFIED, BUT NOT WHERE WE CAN'T GET HOME. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, GIVEN THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS, WERE THERE ANY OH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO? YEAH, GO. GO FOR IT. OKAY. UH, HI EVERYONE. MY NAME IS RAINEY DO. I'M AN ASSISTANT PLANNER, CITY OF PETALUMA, ALSO A CONSULTANT PLANNER FOR M GROUP. AND TODAY I'M HERE TO BRING ATTENTION TOWARDS THE PETALUMA NORTH SMART STATION SPECIFIC PLAN, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, OUR APPLICATIONS FOR OUR WORKING GROUP. SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR RESIDENTS AND PLAN AREA REPRESENTATIVES OF A PLAN AREA, BUSINESS ENTERPRISE OR MEMBERS OF CITY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS TO JOIN AND SUBMIT APPLICATIONS IN ORDER TO MAKE A PLANNING INITIATIVE FOR THE SPECIFIC PLAN AS INCLUSIVE AND DIVERSE AS POSSIBLE. AND SO APPLICATIONS WE'RE TECHNICALLY ALREADY VIEWED TODAY, BUT WE'RE STILL GONNA BE AS A TEAM, UM, REVIEWING APPLICATIONS AS THEY COME IN WEEK OR SO. UH, WE'RE PLANNING TO MEET SURROUND FOUR TO FIVE TIMES BETWEEN THE FIRST SIX MONTHS OF THE NEXT CALENDAR YEAR. AND WE'RE HOPING THAT THIS WILL PROVIDE A LOT OF FEEDBACK, A LOT OF, UM, IN TERMS OF FREE FEEDBACK FROM THE RESPECTIVE CONSTITUENCIES. SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR REPRESENTATIVES OF THE EAST SIDE FROMUM MEMBERS OF COMMUNITY TO, UH, APPLY AS WELL. UH, I'M ALSO DIRECTED [00:05:01] TO, UH, LINK THE WEBSITE, SO CITYUM, PNSP. AND THERE YOU'LL FIND INFORMATION REGARDING THE SPECIFIC PLAN IN GENERAL AS WELL AS, UH, A LINK FOR THE APPLICATION AND OF COURSE, REQUIREMENTS FOR WHAT IT TAKES TO JOIN GROUP. I'M ALSO ABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THEN I CAN ALSO DIRECT THEM TOWARDS THE PROJECT MAN MANAGER, TOM FORD EMAILS, T FORD TORD ORG. PROBABLY HAVE MORE OF THE SPECIFIC DETAILS HE ASKING ABOUT. THANK YOU. GREAT, THANK YOU. OKAY. DID WE RECEIVE ANY, UM, PUBLIC COMMENTS PRIOR TO THIS MEETING? WE DIDN'T. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. [PRESENTATIONS] OKAY, WITH THAT, UM, WE CAN MOVE ON TO, UH, CLOSING PUBLIC COMMENT AND MOVE ON TO OUR ONE AND ONLY PRESENTATION FOR TONIGHT. UM, LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE A REPORT ON THE TRANSIT OPERATING PRESENT OPERATING BUDGET PRESENTATION. SO THESE ARE EITHER CAMILLE OR JARED. YOU GUYS TAKE IT AWAY. IT POPS UP ON THE SCREEN, UM, USING THE MIC. UM, GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. SO THIS IS JUST AN UPDATED VERSION OF THE PREVIOUS, UH, TRANSIT OPERATING FINANCIAL PLAN BASED UPON FEEDBACK AND QUESTIONS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED IN THE PAST FEW MEETINGS. SO, UM, THE GOAL FOR TONIGHT IS REALLY JUST TO DIG DEEPER IN, INTO THE INS AND OUTS OF THE TRANSIT BUDGET AND ALSO KIND OF DIVE INTO THE UNIQUENESS OF THIS BUDGET. UM, PLEASE WORK, I'M TRYING TO, OKAY, UM, , SO AN OVERVIEW. WE'RE GONNA GO OVER THE BUDGET AT A GLANCE. UM, WE'RE GONNA GO OVER THE OPERATING EXPENSES, THEN OPERATING REVENUES, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT TDA FUNDING AND HOW UNIQUE THAT IS. UM, AND THEN WE'RE BRIEFLY GONNA ADDRESS THE NEXT STEPS AND THE TIMELINE, UM, FOR WHAT JANUARY MAY LOOK LIKE. BUT TODAY IS REALLY JUST TO GIVE A BETTER OVERVIEW SO THAT WAY WE'RE MORE PREPARED FOR OUR DISCUSSIONS IN JANUARY. SO AS YOU LOOK AT THE TRANSIT BUDGET, RIGHT, AND YOU TRY TO THINK OF IT IN THE ASPECT OF WHEN YOU SEE REGULAR BUDGET, RIGHT? LIKE WHEN YOU THINK OF A BUSINESS BUDGET, THERE'S EXPENSES AND REVENUES. YES, TRANSIT ESSENTIALLY DOES HAVE EXPENSES AND IT DOES HAVE REVENUES. BUT BECAUSE OF THE UNIQUENESS OF TDA, IT REALLY IS BROKEN INTO THREE CATEGORIES, RIGHT? LIKE WE HAVE OUR GENERAL EXPENSES, WE HAVE OUR GENERAL REVENUES, WHICH IS SOMETIMES GRANTS, SOMETIMES FARES, AND THEN THROUGH OUR FUND SOURCES. BUT AS WITH MOST TRANSIT AGENCIES, THE REVENUES DON'T ALWAYS COVER THE DIFFERENCE IN EXPENSE IN EXPENSES. SO WE ALWAYS, TDA IN A SENSE, IN A SENSE, IS SOLVING FOR X, WE'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO SOLVE FOR X. UM, AND SO I KIND OF PUT THIS HERE TO LIKE, KIND OF LIKE PUT IT IN A WAY TO SHOW WHAT A REVENUE AND EXPENSES, BUT AS YOU MIGHT KNOW, IT DOESN'T REALLY PROPERLY LOOK LIKE OUR BUDGET WHEN WE FINALLY BREAK IT OUT. AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE UNIQUENESS OF TDA. UM, SO THE BALANCE HERE IS REALLY TDA BALANCE, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE'RE NOT CARRYING OVER A BALANCE BECAUSE THE TDA THAT WE ACCRUE, UM, AND IT'S MANAGED AT THE MTC LEVEL, UM, THAT IS REALLY, UM, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE FOR, RIGHT? WE WANNA KEEP AS MUCH TDA WE BALANCE IS AVAILABLE TO US BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT WE USE TO FILL IN OUR GAPS. SO I TRIED TO DESIGN THIS PRESENTATION AS LIKE, IF YOU'RE OPENING FILES, LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE AT A GLANCE QUICKLY, HERE'S THE REVENUES AND EXPENSES, BUT WHAT DO THE REVENUES REALLY LOOK LIKE? AND THEN WE CAN LIKE BREAK IT OUT. SO IT'S INTENDED TO LIKE KIND OF JUST EXPAND OUT OF ITSELF, UM, TO BETTER EXPLAIN WHAT OF ALL OF OUR FUND SOURCES ARE. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHY I BROKE IT INTO THREE CATEGORIES. 'CAUSE THAT'S ESSENTIALLY HOW THE TRANSIT BUDGET WORKS, RIGHT? WE HAVE ALL OF OUR EXPENSES, WE HAVE A VI VARIETY OF REVENUE SOURCES, AND THEN TDA, WHICH IS THE TRANSIT DEVELOPMENT ACT. UM, THAT IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT, UH, SOLVES FOR THAT GAP BETWEEN REVENUES AND EXPENSES. BUT THE UNIQUENESS OF TDA IS THAT IT ALSO CARRIES OVER AND IT CAN BE USED TOWARDS CAPITAL AS WELL, WHEREAS A LOT OF THE REVENUES ARE SPECIFICALLY FOR OPERATING. AND SO THAT'S WHERE YOU MIGHT NOTICE SOME OF THE DIFFERENCES IN NUMBERS, UM, BECAUSE SOMETIMES OUR TDA MIGHT LOOK LIKE A LOT MORE, BUT THAT'S PROBABLY BECAUSE WE MIGHT'VE USED CAPITAL THAT YEAR. UM, OR SOMETIMES IT MIGHT LOOK LESS DEPENDING ON WHAT OTHER FUND SOURCES IT IS. SO IT KIND OF LIKE FLUCTUATES A BIT. SO IT'S NOT THE EASIEST TO REPRESENT IN A REVENUES CATEGORY BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE DIFFERENT VARIATIONS OF IT. SO I HAVE IT SPLIT OUT SPECIFICALLY AS ITS OWN CATEGORY DUE TO THAT UNIQUENESS. WHEREAS THE OTHER ONES TEND TO OPERATE A LOT MORE LIKE A, A, A REVENUE. YOU GET THAT AMOUNT EVERY YEAR. IT HAS TO BE EXTENDED TOWARDS OPERATIONS. SO WE'LL DIG INTO THE [00:10:01] VARIOUS, UM, CATEGORIES OF THAT. UM, AND SO WE'RE GONNA DIG INTO EACH OF THESE AS WELL. AND I DIDN'T DETERMINE IF Y'ALL WANTED TO ASK QUESTIONS DURING THE PRESENTATION OR SAVE THEM TOWARDS THE END, BUT LET ME KNOW. UM, YOU MIGHT NOTICE THAT I, I, I ROUNDED UP TO THE NEAREST THOUSAND. SO IF THE MATH DOESN'T PERFECTLY WORK OUT, THE TOTAL AMOUNT IS THE TOTAL AMOUNT ROUNDED UP. SO JUST SO YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE TRYING TO ADD ONE PLUS ONE AND IT'S EQUALS THREE OR IT'S PROBABLY 'CAUSE THERE WAS 1.5 PLUS, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO JUST LETTING YOU ALL KNOW. SO THE FIRST CATEGORY IS THE TRANSIT OPERATING EXPENSES. WE TYPICALLY LOOK AT THE TRANSIT, TRANSIT OPERATING EXPENSES BY MODE OF TRANSIT. UM, SO AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, WE HAVE FIXED DROUGHT, PARATRANSIT, AND THEN MICROT TRANSIT, WHICH WAS INTRODUCED IN SEPTEMBER OF 2024. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT HERE. UM, I ALSO SPLIT IT OUT. EXCUSE ME, I'M GOING FASTER THAN MY PRESENTATION. MY BRAIN MOVED WAY TOO FAST. UM, SO THE, JUST SO YOU KNOW, OUR EXPENSES GENERALLY INCLUDE ALL OF OUR DIRECT OPERATING COSTS. SO THAT INCLUDES CITY STAFFING PLUS ANY ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS, AND THAT'S DIVVIED OUT BY MODE OF TRANSIT, PROPORTIONAL TO, UM, HOW MUCH THAT TRANSIT RUNS. SO IF 60% OF OUR TRANSIT IS DEDICATED TO FIXED ROUTE, 60% OF OUR ADMIN COSTS ARE DEDICATED TO FIXED ROUTE. SO WE TRY TO BREAK IT UP PROPORTIONALLY TO THAT MODE OF SERVICE. UM, AND THE COST IS CALCULATING BY ADDING THE CONTRACT HOURS WITH THE OPERATING EXPENSES AND AS I SAID, YOU KNOW, DIRECTLY PROPORTIONAL TO THAT MODE OF TRANSIT. UM, AND THEN SOME JUST GENERAL NOTES. UM, FISCAL YEARS 20 19, 20 20 THROUGH 24, 25, THOSE ARE ALL REPRESENTED AS ACTUAL EXPENSES. BUT THIS FISCAL YEAR, 25, 26 THROUGH, YOU KNOW, THE END OF THE TABLE, THAT'S ESTIMATE, UM, ESTIMATED AS JUST ESTIMATES. UM, 'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE'RE RECURRING THOSE AND THEN WE'RE TRYING TO PLAN, UM, WHAT WE HAVE CONTINUOUSLY DONE IS ASSUMED A 5% COST INCREASE BASED UPON THE PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR. SO THIS LAST FISCAL YEAR, WE SAW A LOT OF MAINTENANCE DUE TO OUR 18 FLEET. SO IT IS ASSUMING AT A 5% COST INCREASE, BUT WE'VE ALSO SEEN, YOU KNOW, RAPID PRICE INCREASES DUE TO INFLATION, ALL THAT. SO WE'RE CONTINUING THAT COST INCREASE JUST TO BE, UM, CAUTIOUS. SO DIVING INTO FIXED DROUGHT THIS YEAR, THIS YEAR, UM, JUNE, JULY, THIS SUMMER OF 25, WE INTRODUCED A SERVICE INCREASE AS IT RELATES TO THE MOVE TRAFFIC IMPROVE SAFETY GRANT WITH GO SONOMA. UM, SO I WANTED TO BREAK IT OUT OF WHAT OUR BASE GENERALLY LOOKS LIKE, AND THEN ASSUMPTION OF WHAT OUR SERVICE INCREASE COSTS MIGHT BE. UM, SO THE BASE IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT OUR REGULAR REGULARLY SCHEDULED ROUTES ARE, RIGHT PRIOR TO A SERVICE INCREASE. AND THEN THE SERVICE INCREASE IS A FREQUENCY INCREASE ON ROUTES TWO AND 11 FOR THIS YEAR. UM, AND IT'S AN 15 MINUTE INTERVAL INCREASE. AND SO BECAUSE OF THAT, OBVIOUSLY, UM, DRIVERS ARE SPENDING MORE TIME ON THE ROAD. SO THAT'S GONNA ACCOUNT FOR MORE HOURS ON THE ROAD. UM, THE SERVICE INCREASE THAT YOU SEE REPRESENTED HERE IS THE ANNUAL AMOUNT WE'RE ESTIMATING JUST BASED UPON OUR CONTRACTOR HOURS. SO IT'S NOT VEHICLE WEAR AND TEAR, UM, 'CAUSE WE'RE NOT SURE HOW MUCH THAT'S GONNA IMPACT IT. SO AT LEAST WE CAN CALCULATE FOR SURE. UM, THE, UH, DRIVER HOURS. UM, AND SO LIKE I SAID, IT'S TIED TO THE MTIS GRANT, UM, WHICH IS ADMINISTERED THROUGH, UM, S-C-T-C-A, SO SONOMA COUNTY TRANSIT AND CLIMATE AUTHORITY. UM, AND THAT TOOK EFFECT IN MAY, 2025. UM, BUT WE ALSO HAVE THE A HSC GRANT, SO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITIES GRANT, UM, WHICH WILL TAKE EFFECT IN WE'RE ESTIMATING 27 28 BASED UPON WHEN THE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT IS COMPLETED. WHEN I GO INTO THE FUNDS LATER, I'LL GO A LITTLE BIT MORE INTO THAT SPECIFIC GRANT AS WELL AS THE MTIS. UM, BUT THE SERVICE INCREASE IS DIRECTLY TIED TO THOSE TWO GRANTS. UM, PARATRANSIT, MICROT TRANSIT, I COMBINED ON ONE SLIDE BECAUSE NEITHER OF THEM HAVE SERVICE INCREASES. THEY'RE, THEY'RE CONSIDERED ON DEMAND, UM, WITHIN THEIR DESIGNATED ZONES. SO FTA, UM, THE FEDERAL TRANSIT, UH, ADMINISTRATION, IT REQUIRES THAT WE OPERATE PARATRANSIT SERVICES, UM, WITHIN THREE QUARTERS OF A MILE OF OUR FIXED ROUTE. UM, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO. WE OPERATE A LITTLE BIT BEYOND THAT JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR CITY OF PETALUMA. UM, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT OUR COST, YOU KNOW, 2023, OUR 20 22, 20 23, WE RENEGOTIATED, UH, DRIVER WAGES, UM, WHICH LED TO AN INCREASE IN COSTS, UM, TO ATTRACT MORE DRIVERS. THERE WERE NOT ENOUGH DRIVERS AT THAT TIME. UH, 24, 25, WE SAW MORE FREQUENT REPAIRS, HAD AN AGING FLEET, SO WE SEE A COST INCREASE THERE AS WELL. UM, AND THEN MICRO TRANSIT, THAT IS OUR LUMA GO SERVICE THAT WAS INTRODUCED IN SEPTEMBER, 2024, UM, WITHIN A DESIGNATED [00:15:01] ZONE OF THE CITY. UM, IT WAS ONE VEHICLE WHEN IT WAS LAUNCHED, BUT DUE TO DEMAND, ANOTHER VEHICLE WAS ADDED. UM, AND THEN THIS SERVICE IS TIED TO THE MTIS GRANT. SO THE MOVE TRAFFIC IMPROVED SAFETY THROUGH GO SONOMA, UM, WHICH TOOK EFFECT IN MAY, 2025 FOR THREE YEARS. UM, AND I'LL EXPLAIN MORE ABOUT THE MTIS GRANT AND HOW THAT'S GENERATED WHEN WE TALK ABOUT FUNDING SOURCES. BUT THAT IS ESSENTIALLY ALL OF OUR, UM, MAIN OPERATING EXPENSES. SO WE REALLY TRY TO BREAK IT UP BY CATEGORY BECAUSE WE'RE REQUIRED TO REPORT ON IT BY CATEGORY. SO IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR US TO ANALYZE THAT. AND THEN IT GIVES US AN IDEA OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE COST IS TO MAINTAIN THOSE SERVICES AS WELL. SO I'M GONNA MOVE ON TO FUNDING SOURCES NOW BECAUSE THOSE ARE OUR EXPENSES. AND AS I SAID BEFORE, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT'S ADMINISTRATIVE GETS PROPORTIONALLY ADDED TO THESE AS EXPENSES. BUT OUR, OUR MAIN EXPENSES ARE OUR OPERATIONS, CONTRACT, REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE. UM, THOSE ARE OUR MAIN, UM, EXPENSE CATEGORIES AND THEN ADMINISTRATIVE FEES. OKAY, SO WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT OPERATING REVENUES. SO THAT'S GONNA BE THIS CATEGORY. AFFAIRS, LOCAL FUNDS, STATE FUNDS, FEDERAL FUNDS, AND THEN GRANTS. UM, AND SO THAT'S KINDA, UH, THE MAIN FUNDING SOURCES. EACH ONE OF THOSE GENERALLY HAS REGULARLY DEDICATED SOURCES DEPENDING ON WHAT'S AVAILABLE. MANY OF THEM WE'VE USED FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. UM, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FUNDS AND GRANTS IS THAT FUNDS IS GENERALLY A PORTIONED TO US ANNUALLY. UM, SO IT'S ALMOST LIKE, I DON'T WANNA USE THE WORD ENTITLEMENT, BUT LIKE IN, IN ESSENCE, IF YOU WERE TO THINK OF A, A BETTER VER WORD OF THAT, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT IT IS. UM, DID I JUST LOG ME OUT BECAUSE MY ZOOM JUST WENT WEIRD? OH YEAH, IT DID. OKAY. , UM, PAUSING. MY APOLOGIES. ESCAPE ZOOM. I KNOW THIS HAPPENED LAST TIME TOO. IT JUST ASSUMED LUCK ME OUT. OH, NOPE. I DON'T KNOW. JARED, IF YOU'RE ABLE TO PULL IT UP, 'CAUSE IT'S NOT LETTING ME LOG INTO ZOOM RIGHT NOW. I'M JOINING THE MEETING RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. SURE, . ALL RIGHT, LET ME SHARE MY SCREEN. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . I'M ON 11 NOW. THANK YOU. OKAY. SINCE I WAS TALKING, BUT THERE'S NO SCREEN. UM, SO WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS, UH, YEAH, GO FORWARD A FEW MORE. THANK YOU. THAT'S PERFECT. UM, SO NOW WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT OUR DIFFERENT REVENUE SOURCES. UM, SO WE HAVE FARES, UM, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE LOCAL FUNDS, STATE FUNDS, FEDERAL FUNDS AND GRANTS. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FUNDS AND GRANTS IS THAT THERE'S AN, UM, ANNUAL APPORTIONMENTS TO US. UM, WE STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH AN APPLICATION PROCESS, UM, AS PART OF REPORTING, AS PART OF, UM, ENSURING THAT WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH A LOT OF THINGS. UM, BUT THEIR FUNDS SPECIFICALLY DEDICATED AND ALLOCATED FOR PETALUMA TRANSIT OR, YOU KNOW, OTHER AGENCIES DEPENDING ON THAT. GRANTS IS A COMPETITIVE APPLICATION. SOME GRANTS ARE ANNUAL AND WE CAN, YOU KNOW, COMPETITIVELY APPLY ANNUALLY. UM, SOME GRANTS ARE ON SPECIFIC CYCLES. UM, BUT THAT'S THE MAIN DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FUNDS AND, AND, UM, GRANTS. AND I'LL DISCUSS, UM, AT EACH LEVEL, UM, WHICH FUNDS WE HAVE. CAN YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE? OKAY. UM, SO A GENERAL OVERVIEW OF OUR OPERATING REVENUES. UM, AS A REMINDER, FISCAL YEARS 1920 THROUGH 24, 25, THOSE ARE ACTUALS. ONCE AGAIN, FISCAL YEARS, UH, 25, 26 THROUGH THE REST OF THE TABLE. THOSE ARE REPRESENTED, IT'S ANTICIPATED REVENUES. UM, MTC AND THEN S-C-T-C-A. THEY REGULARLY PUT OUT PROJECTIONS FOR VARIOUS REVENUES, SUCH AS, AND I'LL GO INTO THEM, BUT AT THE STATE LEVEL AND AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, LEVEL TO LIKE ASSIST US WITH OUR CALCULATIONS. SO WHEN THAT'S PUT IN, YOU KNOW, I, I'LL GO IN AND PUT IN THE ACTUAL NUMBER THAT THEY'RE ESTIMATING. UM, AND THEN FROM THAT, THE TABLE WILL GENERALLY ASSUME A THREE TO 5% INCREASE DEPENDING ON THE PREVIOUS FISCAL [00:20:01] YEAR, UM, PER MTC RECOMMENDATION. SO FOR CERTAIN LEVELS, MTC RECOMMENDS A 1% INCREASE. FOR SOME LEVELS, MTC UM, RECOMMENDS LIKE A THREE OR 5% INCREASE. SO WHATEVER THE RECOMMENDATION IS, THE TABLE WILL ASSUME THAT. UM, BUT ONCE WE GET THEIR ACTUAL ESTIMATES, THEN THE, THE TABLE WILL UPDATE WITH THOSE. UM, WE HAVE NOTICED A, UH, DECREASE IN STATE FUNDING. THIS HAS BEEN A TREND, UM, FOR THE LAST 11 CONSECUTIVE QUARTERS, A DECREASE IN TDA REVENUE RECEIPTS, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT HOW THESE FUNDS ARE GENERATED, BUT THEY'RE ALL MOSTLY GENERATED THROUGH TAXES. SO, YOU KNOW, AS PEOPLE SPEND LESS, THERE'S LESS SALES TAXES, WHICH MEANS THERE'S LESS FUNDS AVAILABLE. UM, AND SO THAT'S THE IMPACT TO US. UM, AND THEN WE ALSO SAW TWO UNANTICIPATED, UM, STATE FUNDING RESCISSIONS IN 24, 25, AND THEN AGAIN THIS YEAR. UM, SO RESCISSION IS SPECIFICALLY, UM, A CHANGE IN THEIR ESTIMATED REVENUE. SO THEY MIGHT SAY, YOU CAN SUBMIT YOUR APPLICATION FOR THIS AMOUNT, AND THEN THEY MIGHT COME BACK LATER AND BE LIKE, ACTUALLY, WE DIDN'T GENERATE THAT MUCH REVENUE, SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO CUT WHAT THAT AMOUNT IS. UM, AND SO WE'VE SEEN THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE FREQUENTLY THIS YEAR. AND THEN IF YOU WANNA GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. ALL RIGHT, FARES. UM, SO PREVIOUSLY WHEN WE CHARGED FARES, YOU CAN SEE THAT REPRESENTED ON THE TABLE IN 24 25. SO JULY 1ST, 2024. UM, WE LAUNCHED THE FAIR FREE PILOT PROGRAM. UM, SO AS YOU SEE, THERE ARE NO MORE FARES ESTIMATED IN OUR PROJECTIONS, UM, JUST BECAUSE OF THE PILOT PROGRAM. UM, THIS PROGRAM IS PARTIALLY FUNDED THROUGH THE CITY GENERAL FUND, SO THAT'S 180 K, UM, BUT THEN ALSO THROUGH GO SONOMA 2% FAIR FREE, AND WE'LL DISCUSS THAT IN THE LOCAL REVENUES NEXT. SO, UM, DUE TO THIS PARTIAL FUNDING DEDICATED BY THE CITY AND THEN THE LAUNCHING OF LUMA GO, WE WERE ABLE TO GO FAIR FREE. AND IT DOES COVER, AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, THE AMOUNT THAT WE WERE GENERATING FROM FARES PREVIOUSLY. IF YOU WANNA GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. ALL RIGHT, LOCAL REVENUES, AND I APOLOGIZE, IT'S SMALL. I WAS TRYING TO KEEP 'EM ALL GROUPED INTO ONE SLIDE, SO LET ME KNOW IF YOU NEED ME TO LIKE, READ OUT LOUD WORD FOR WORD TO MAKE IT EASIER TO READ. UM, BUT WE HAVE A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT LOCAL REVENUES, AND NOT ALL OF THEM ARE CONSIDERED FUNDS. UM, SO IN THE PAST WE USED TO HAVE AN ADVERTISING PROGRAM, SO THAT'S THE TOP ROW YOU SEE REPRESENTED THERE IN 24 25. WE, UH, FOCUS MORE ON PROVIDING LOCAL IN KIND ADVERTISING TO LOCAL NONPROFITS OR COMMUNITY GROUPS. UM, AND ALSO DUE TO STAFFING SHORTAGES AS WELL TOO, JUST MAINTAINING AN ADVERTISING PROGRAM IS, UM, QUITE, UH, BUSINESS. AND SO IN, UH, THIS YEAR WE ARE RELAUNCHING OUR ADVERTISING PROGRAM, HOWEVER, IT'S GOING TO BE MANAGED BY, UM, A DEDICATED AGENCY THAT SPECIALIZES IN, UM, TRANSIT ADVERTISING. UM, AND SO WE'RE HOPING TO LAUNCH THAT EARLY SPRING. UM, AND THEN, UM, THE NEXT LINE IS CITY GENERAL FUND. SO LAST YEAR, 24 25 WAS THE YEAR THAT WE WENT FAIR FREE, AND THAT WAS THE FIRST YEAR THAT THE CITY GENERAL FUND HAD DEDICATED REVENUE, UM, SPECIFICALLY TO FUND THE FAIR FREE PROGRAM. UM, AND SO IT'S A SET AMOUNT DEDICATED ANNUALLY IN THE CITY BUDGET, 180 K. SO YOU SEE THAT GOING FORWARD AT THE SAME AMOUNT BECAUSE THAT WAS THE, UM, AMOUNT AGREED UPON INTEREST. I INCLUDED IN HERE AS WELL. WE DO PUT THIS IN OUR ANNUAL REPORTS, UM, TO REPRESENT IT. IT'S REALLY INTEREST EARNED BASED UPON, UM, GAIN ON INVESTMENTS. SO IF WE WERE TO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SELL A VEHICLE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, UM, THERE MIGHT BE ANY TYPE OF LIKE, INTEREST EARNED OR ANY TYPE OF SITUATION LIKE THAT. WE HAVE QUITE THE AGING FLEET, SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT REALLY GAINING ANY TYPE OF REVENUE OR INTEREST OFF OF THAT THIS YEAR. BUT IN THE PAST, YOU CAN SEE MAYBE WE HAD A THOUSAND HERE, 2000 THERE. LIKE THAT'S, THAT'S REPRESENTED IN THERE. UM, BUT BECAUSE OF OUR AGING FLEET, I DON'T HAVE IT, UM, CARRYING FORWARD, UH, YOU KNOW, I WANNA BE REALISTIC ABOUT THAT. MAYBE AFTER THIS NEXT ROUND OF VEHICLES IN LIKE 10, 15 YEARS, IT MIGHT LOOK A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, THAT'S, THAT'S HOW I'M ESTIMATING IT. UM, SO GO SONOMA. UM, THIS IS A DEDICATED REVENUE SOURCE THROUGH THE COUNTY. UM, IF YOU'VE HEARD OF MEASURE M BEFORE, WHICH WAS SPECIFICALLY, UM, A QUARTER CENT SALES TAX, UM, THROUGH, YOU KNOW, A SONOMA COUNTY MEASURE, UM, A PORTION OF THAT WAS DEDICATED TOWARDS TRANSIT. AND, UM, PETALUMA, ALL TRANSIT AGENCIES IN THE COUNTY RECEIVED IT. PETALUMA TRANSIT BEING ONE OF THEM. UM, IN APRIL OF 2025, GHOST SONOMA TOOK EFFECT. SO MARCH 31ST, 2025, A MEASURE M UM, ENDED, AND THEN GO SONOMA TOOK EFFECT. AND SO, UH, IT WAS A FEW YEARS AGO THAT THE COUNTY VOTED TO, YOU KNOW, INCREASE THE GHOST SONOMA PERCENTAGES DEDICATED TOWARDS TRANSIT AND RENEW [00:25:01] MEASURE M. SO PREVIOUSLY 10% OF MEASURE M WAS DEDICATED TOWARDS TRANSIT. NOW IT'S 21 TO 23. SO YOU ARE GONNA SEE THIS BIG JUMP OF 356, UM, IN FUND AVAILABILITY IN FY 24 25 TO 660. AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE LARGER TAX, UM, DEDICATED TOWARDS TRANSIT AFTER THAT. IT'S NOT GONNA BE A HUGE JUMP EVERY YEAR BECAUSE IT'S JUST GONNA CONTINUE THAT. BUT BECAUSE OF THAT, YOU KNOW, WE SAW A ONE TIME INCREASE, UM, AND THAT, HONESTLY, IT WAS DECREASING EVERY YEAR. SO THIS ACTUALLY ASSISTED TRANSIT AGENCIES. UM, OF THE 21 TO 23%, THERE'S A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT, UM, FUNDING. I DON'T WANNA USE THE WORD REQUIREMENTS, UM, BUT 18% OF IT IS GOING TOWARDS TRANSIT OPERATIONS. UM, NO, IT'S MORE THAN 18. 2% OF THAT, I'M GONNA GO INTO THE NEXT ROW. UM, 2% OF THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE DEDICATED TOWARDS FAIR FREE PROGRAMS. SO THE 21 TO 23% INCLUDES THAT TWO PER, WELL, NOT 2%, I SPLIT IT OUT ON THE TABLE. BUT THE WHOLE GHOST SONOMA TRANSIT, UM, DEDICATED REVENUE IS 22, 21 TO 22%. 2% OF THAT GETS SPLIT OUT SPECIFICALLY FOR FAIR FREE PROGRAMS. SO IN TOTAL, WE'RE LOOKING AT ALMOST 700, UM, THOUSAND, OR A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN 700,000 FROM GO SONOMA, BUT 2% NEEDS TO BE DEDICATED TO FAIR FREE PROGRAMS. WHAT DOES FAIR FREE PROGRAMS LOOK LIKE? IT CAN BE, UM, SPECIFICALLY DEDICATED TOWARDS POPULATIONS. UM, SO IF YOU WANNA MAKE A YOUTH FAIR FREE PROGRAM, YOUTH RIDES FREE, THAT WOULD, UM, SUFFICE FOR THE FAIR FREE PROGRAMS, UM, OR SENIORS OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER CATEGORIES WE DETERMINE, OR RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE WE'RE ENTIRELY FAIR FREE AT A SENSE, IT, IT'S JUST THE GENERAL POPULATION. SO, UM, AND THIS IS ALL GENERATED THROUGH COUNTYWIDE SALES TAX FEE, GO SONOMA SPECIFICALLY FUNDS OPERATIONS. UM, SO IT DOESN'T, IT'S NOT LIKE CERTAIN ONES WHERE IT HAS TO BE TOWARDS A DA OR PARATRANSIT, MICRO TRANSITS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT'S JUST TRANSIT OPERATIONS AND THAT AMOUNT DOES NOT ROLL OVER EVERY YEAR. UM, SAME FOR THE CITY GENERAL FUND. UM, SO JUST SO AS WE THINK ABOUT WHAT, WHAT OUR FUNDING SOURCES ARE, LIKE, CERTAIN ONES ARE DEDICATED TO, UM, DIFFERENT AVENUES. AND SO THESE ONES ARE SPECIFICALLY DEDICATED TOWARDS OPERATIONS, FAIR FREE PROGRAMS. OKAY. STATE REVENUES. SO WE TECHNICALLY, TDA IS TECHNICALLY GENERATED AT THE STATE LEVEL, BUT BECAUSE TDA IS USED FOR A VARIETY OF SOURCES AND BECAUSE IT CARRIES OVER, I HAVE IT AS A SEPARATE THING, BUT I JUST WANNA RECOGNIZE THAT TDA IS A STATE GENERATED FUND, UM, AND THAT OUR APPLICATION PROCESS FOR ANNUAL APPORTIONMENTS, IT'S IN JOINT WITH STA. SO WHEN WE APPLY, WE APPLY JOINTLY AND FILL OUT ONE APPLICATION FOR OUR STA AND FOR OUR T-D-A-S-T-A STANDS FOR STATE TRANSIT ASSISTANCE. IT'S GENERATED THROUGH A STATEWIDE SALES TAX ON DIESEL FUEL. UM, THIS REVENUES VARIES GEN LIKE YEAR BY YEAR, DEPENDING ON DIESEL AND FUEL PRICES. SO YOU'RE GONNA SEE A LOT OF FLUCTUATIONS IN THIS. UM, AND IT'S BEEN DECREASING DUE TO INCREASING, UH, UH, ELECTRIC VEHICLE. UM, SO HYBRID OR ELECTRIC VEHICLES WE'RE SEEING THIS FUND DWINDLE, WHICH WAS THE POINT, RIGHT? THEY WANTED TO TAX SO THAT WAY PEOPLE WOULD SWITCH AND THEY DID A GREAT JOB, BUT NOW , THOSE FUNDS ARE COMING IN LESS AND LESS REST. SO THAT'S THE IMPACT. UM, IT'S COLLECTED BY THE STATE AND THEN IT'S ALLOCATED, UM, TO EACH REGION. SO MTC, THE METROPOLITAN TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION, UM, CALCULATES, UM, OUR STA REVENUES BASED UPON POPULATION AND, UM, I'M FORGETTING THE SECOND ONE. UM, REVENUE BASED FORMULA. SO WE GET TECHNICALLY TWO, UM, TWO APPORTIONMENTS, BUT THEY'RE BOTH REPRESENTED, UM, AS A TOTAL IN THIS LINE. UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE BOTH DEDICATED TOWARDS TRANSIT OPERATIONS, THEY NEED TO BE EXPENDED EVERY YEAR. THEY DON'T ROLL OVER EVERY YEAR. UM, WITH THE POTENTIAL LAUNCHING OR WITH THE LAUNCHING OF THE MASCOTS PROGRAM, UM, WE ANTICIPATE RECEIVING A SMALL INCREASE, UM, DUE TO THE RESHUFFLING OF, YOU KNOW, THE APPORTIONMENTS OF FUNDS. UM, AND THE PLAN ASSUMES LIKE A 1% ANNUAL INCREASE PER MTC RECOMMENDATIONS. UM, AND AS I SAID, TDA GENERATED THE SAME WAY STATEWIDE SALES TAX. UM, BUT WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS IT IN ITS OWN SECTION BECAUSE IT, IT JUST HAS A LOT OF LEVELS TO IT. AND THEN FEDERAL FUNDS IS NEXT. THANK YOU. UM, SO OUR FEDERAL FUNDS, THERE'S A VARIETY OF FEDERAL FUNDS, BUT THESE ARE THE ONES THAT, UM, WE RECEIVE ANNUALLY THROUGH APPROPRIATIONS. UM, SO YOU'RE [00:30:01] GONNA SEE 53 0 7 A VARIETY OF TIMES. UM, THERE ARE DIFFERENT LEVELS WITHIN 53 0 7. UM, AND SO WE RECEIVE IT FOR A DA OPERATIONS. AND THEN WE ALSO, DURING COVID, WE SAW, UM, LIFELINE, WHICH WAS COVID RELIEF FUNDS. UM, AND SO, UH, IT'S ADMINISTERED THROUGH THE FTA, WE HAVE TO APPLY ANNUALLY THROUGH AN FTA GRANT. UM, AND MTC MANAGES THE APPORTIONMENTS TO EACH TRANSIT AGENCY. SO THEY CALCULATE IT BASED UPON POPULATION, THE, THE FORMULAS THAT THEY USE AS WELL. UM, AND THEN THE LIFELINE FUNDS WAS SPECIFICALLY FOR, UM, COVID RELIEF, BUT THIS LAST FISCAL YEAR IN 20 24, 25, MTC DISCOVERED A SMALL UNUSED LIFELINE FUND BALANCE FROM 2020. AND SO THEY HAD US PUT IT INTO OUR 2025 GRANT. SO YOU SEE 55 FOR 20 25, 20 26. UM, AND SO THAT'S WHAT IT IS. IT WAS JUST MTC GOING THROUGH, UM, AND NOTICING, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS SOME, UH, NEWS AND SO THEY APPORTIONED IT OUT TO AGENCIES. SO WE DON'T ANTICIPATE RECEIVING THAT IN THE FUTURE. I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT IT WAS JUST KINDA LIKE THE CLOSE OUT OF ANY REMAINING FUNDS. UM, AND SO FOR THIS YEAR, IT WAS APPLIED TO WEEKEND SERVICE, SO IT'S SPECIFICALLY FUNDING, UM, WEEKEND SERVICE OPERATIONS OR A PORTION OF THAT. UM, AND THOSE ARE THE MAIN FEDERAL FUNDS THAT WE RECEIVE. UM, THERE'S A LOT OF FEDERAL GRANTS OUT THERE, UM, SOMETIMES, SOMETIMES FOR OPERATIONS, NOT FREQUENTLY, UM, BUT MOSTLY FOR, UM, CAPITAL PROJECTS. SO I'M GONNA MOVE ON TO GRANTS NEXT AND SPECIFICALLY LIST WHAT THEY'RE TIED TO. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO TFCA IS THE TRANSPORTATION FUND FOR CLEAN AIR. THIS IS AN ANNUAL GRANT ADMINISTER, OR, UM, WITH, UH, IT'S AN ANNUAL GRANT. IT'S REGIONAL FUNDS, UH, COLLECTED BY THE BAY AREA AIR QUALITY DISTRICT. UM, BUT IT'S ALLOCATED TO S-C-T-C-A WHO ADMINISTERS IT. SO WE APPLY THROUGH S-C-T-C-A, THEY MANAGE, UM, THE APPLICATION, UM, THEY AND ALL OF THAT. UM, AND THEY DETERMINE HOW BEST TO DO IT, WHETHER TO DO SPECIFIC APPORTIONMENTS OR TO MAKE IT COMPETITIVE. IN THE PAST, THEY HAD IT PARTIALLY COMPETITIVE AND THEN PARTIALLY APPORTIONMENT. SO TRANSIT WAS A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OFF THE TOP. AND THEN AFTER THAT, THE REMAINING AMOUNT WAS COMPETITIVE. UM, BUT IN 2025, UH, THEY SWITCHED TO AN ENTIRELY COMPETITIVE PROCESS. UM, AND THEN EACH TRANSIT AGENCY HAD TO APPLY, SO THEY NO LONGER HAD A DEDICATED AMOUNT OF FUNDS. UM, IN THE PAST, UH, WE USED TFCA SPECIFICALLY, UM, FOR OPERATING TO FUND, UM, TRANSIT MARKETING STAFFING AND PROGRAMMING, UM, TO ENCOURAGE MORE RIDERSHIP AND, UM, YOU KNOW, DEDICATED, UM, RIDERSHIP EDUCATION PROGRAMS, THAT TYPE OF SITUATION. HOWEVER, UM, ONCE THE, UH, FLEET ELECTRIFICATION PLAN CAME OUT, THOSE FUNDS SWITCHED TOWARDS CAPITAL TO PURCHASE ELECTRIC BUSES BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE GREATEST FUNDING NEED WAS AT THAT TIME. UM, BUT AS WE ARE COVERING MORE OF OUR CAPITAL, UM, BUS PURCHASES, WE HAVE A VARIETY OF FUNDING SOURCES FOR THAT. THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY TO SWITCH THE GRANT BACK TO, UM, OPERATING, UH, RIGHT NOW IT STILL IS COMPETITIVE. SO IF IT IS OPERATIONS, IT HAS TO BE HIGHLY COMPETITIVE AND HIGHLY COST EFFECTIVE. BUT IT HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN AWARDED IN THE PAST. UM, AND SO THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT IT COULD BE AWARDED IN THE FUTURE. UM, AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO WORK CLOSELY WITH S-C-T-C-A TO DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR, OUR COMPETITIVENESS AND THE COST EFFECTIVENESS. UM, BUT THOSE ARE, THAT IS ONE OF THE FUNDING SOURCES THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED IN THE PAST AND MAY POTENTIALLY RECEIVE IN THE FUTURE. UM, THE, UH, CCR, UH, OR THE CRF, UM, THE CLIMATE RESILIENCY FUND, UM, THAT WAS A GRANT. THERE WAS A ONE-TIME GRANT AWARDED TO THE COUNTY, UM, FOR CLIMATE RESILIENCY PROGRAMS PROVIDED THROUGH PG E SETTLEMENT RELATED TO THE 2017 FIRES. UM, IT WAS RECEIVED AND ADMINISTERED BY SONOMA COUNTY, UM, AND IT SPECIFICALLY FUNDED YOUTH FAIR FREE PROGRAMS. UM, AND SO WE RECEIVED ABOUT A HUNDRED K FOR TWO YEARS, UM, ANNUALLY THAT BECAUSE IT WAS A ONE-TIME GRANT, UM, AND THAT ENDED THIS SUMMER. SO JUNE, 2025, UM, WE DON'T ANTICIPATE RECEIVING IT IN THE FUTURE, BUT IT DID ASSIST WITH, UM, SOME OF OUR OPERATING COSTS. S UM, MTIS MOVE TRAFFIC, IMPROVE SAFETY IS ONE OF THE GRANTS ADMINISTER, UH, THROUGH GHOST SONOMA. SO GHOST SONOMA, IT APPORTIONS THE ENTIRE GHOST SONOMA MEASURE. IT APPORTIONS A CERTAIN AMOUNT TO LOCAL ROADS, YOU KNOW, OPERATIONS. IT APPORTIONS, UM, A CERTAIN AMOUNT TOWARDS LOCAL BUS OPERATIONS. AND THEN IT HAS SPECIFIC GRANT CATEGORIES. UM, ONE OF THOSE GRANT CATEGORIES IS MOVE TRAFFIC, IMPROVE SAFETY. UM, AND SO, UH, PETALUMA TRANSIT WAS AWARDED A THREE YEAR GRANT, UM, FOR THE TOTAL [00:35:01] OF TWO, 2 MILLION AND, UH, 301,000. UM, AS YOU SEE IT REFLECTED HERE, IT'S AN ESTIMATION OF HOW MUCH WE MIGHT USE EACH YEAR. SO IT'S KINDA LIKE HOW IT'S SPREAD OUT. BUT THAT'S THE TOTAL GRANT. IT'S EFFECTIVE FOR THREE YEARS, UM, THROUGH 2026. AND IT SPECIFICALLY FUNDS, ROUTES TWO AND 11. IT FUNDS LUMA GO AND THEN ADDED SCHOOL TRIPPER SERVICE. SO THAT'S THE SPECIFIC DEDICATED, UM, YOU KNOW, OPERATIONS OF THAT GRANT. IT DOESN'T ENTIRELY FUND ALL OF THEM, BUT IT'S, IT'S DEDICATED REVENUE TOWARDS THEM. AND THEN FINALLY WE HAVE THE A HSC GRANT, WHICH WILL BE COMING POSSIBLY IN 20 27, 20 28. UM, THAT'S THE OUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITIES. IT'S A STATE LEVEL COMPETITIVE GRANT. UM, AND THE CITY WAS AWARDED THE GRANT IN PARTNERSHIP WITH DANKO, THE DEVELOPER, UM, FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMUNITY, WHICH IS MERIDIAN AT PETALUMA NORTH STATION. YOU MIGHT HAVE SEEN SOME CONSTRUCTION STARTING TO BEGIN, UM, NEAR THE NEW NORTH SMART STATION. UM, THE, UM, CITY WAS AWARDED A GRANT FOR INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS AND THEN SUSTAINABLE SERVICES. SO SPECIFICALLY, UM, WE ARE IN, IN THIS SENSE FOR OPERATIONS, WE'RE ANTICIPATING RECEIVING 400,000, OR WE WERE AWARDED, EXCUSE ME, UM, WE WERE AWARDED 400,000 SPECIFICALLY FOR SERVICE INCREASE NEAR THE DEVELOPMENT ONCE IT'S COMPLETED. UM, SO THAT'S KIND OF A CONTINUATION OF OUR SERVICE INCREASE ON ROUTES TWO AND 11, BECAUSE IT DOES RUN IN THAT AREA. UM, AND SO THAT SPECIFIC GRANT DOES NOT, OR THAT SPECIFIC PORTION OF THE GRANT, 'CAUSE THERE'S VARIOUS PORTIONS OF THE GRANT DOESN'T TAKE EFFECT UNTIL THE, UM, THE COMMUNITY IS COMPLETED, BECAUSE IF WE'RE INCREASING SERVICE, BUT THERE'S NO RESIDENCE, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. SO ONCE IT'S COMPLETED, UM, THAT FUNDS IT, BUT IT, IT DOES TIME WELL WITH THE, UM, ENDING OF THE MTIS GRANT. IT KINDA STEPS IN AND, AND FUNDS THE SERVICE INCREASE THERE. UM, AND THEN THE NEXT SLIDE IS A, A UNIQUE ONE. SO LAST, LAST TIME WE DISCUSSED SOME SAVINGS MEASURES THAT WE WERE DOING. I DIDN'T WANNA PUT IT IN THE REVENUES BECAUSE IT DOES KIND OF SKEW THE REVENUES BECAUSE SOMETIMES THEY'RE ONETIME SAVINGS MEASURES. UM, AND THEN I DIDN'T, OR EXCUSE ME, NOT REVENUES, I DIDN'T WANNA PUT IT IN THE EXPENDITURES BECAUSE SOMETIMES THEY'RE ONETIME, YOU KNOW, SAVINGS MEASURES AND I DIDN'T WANNA PUT IT IN IN REVENUES BECAUSE NOT ALL OF THEM ARE DEDICATED REVENUE SOURCES. SO I'M JUST KIND OF ADDING THIS AS LIKE A, A SLIDE THAT KIND OF DOES ITS OWN THING, BUT IT, IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S IN THERE. AND SO THESE ARE THE ONES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, LAST TIME, SUCH AS THE LAYING THE, UH, THE CAPITAL PROJECTS, UM, COMMINGLING, PARATRANSIT, REDUCING THE TRANSIT, UM, FINANCIAL CONSULTANT WORK, REPURPOSING LCOP, UM, WHICH IS THE LOW CARBON TRANSIT OPERATING PROGRAM. AND THEN SAME WITH TFCA, SWITCHING THAT TO BE OPERATING, UM, AND THEN CHARGING STAFF TIME TO DEDICATED CAPITAL PROJECTS. UM, SO WE DISCUSSED THESE IN THE LAST ONE. THE REASON WHY I'M PUTTING THIS HERE BEFORE WE DISCUSS TDA IS, LIKE I SAID, TDA, WE'RE REALLY JUST TRYING TO SOLVE FOR X AND THESE MEASURES TAKE EFFECT BEFORE WE SOLVE FOR X. SO THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO INCLUDE IT AND NOT IN THE TDA SECTION. UM, BUT NOW WE'RE GONNA GO INTO TDA, AND I KNOW I'VE MENTIONED TDAA FEW TIMES. UM, IF YOU WANNA MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE OR TWO. YEAH, SO TDA, THE TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT ACT, AS YOU SEE HERE, IT'S KIND OF THE, THE THIRD CATEGORY. AND IF YOU WANNA MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE, UM, AT A GLANCE, TDA REVENUE IS GENERATED FROM A QUARTER CENT SALES TAX. UM, AT THE STATE LEVEL, IT'S THE LEAST RESTRICTIVE FUND, RIGHT? LIKE ALL THE FUNDS THAT I WAS MENTIONING BEFORE ARE SPECIFICALLY FOR OPERATIONS OR FAIR FREE PROGRAMS, UM, OR A DA OPERATIONS. UH, TDA DOESN'T HAVE THAT RESTRICTION. AND SO WE ALWAYS WANT TO USE IT AS OUR LAST POSSIBLE FUND. UM, SO THAT WAY WE CAN, YOU KNOW, DIVERSIFY, YOU KNOW, OUR FUNDS AS BEST TO FIT THE NEEDS OF THE FISCAL YEAR. UM, AND SO WE, WE USE IT AS THE LAST DOLLAR IN TO FILL THE GAP FOR OPERATIONS OR CAPITAL. UM, EACH YEAR, TDA IS USED FOR OPERATING AND CAPITAL, UM, BECAUSE WE DO RECEIVE CAPITAL, BUT GRANTS, BUT NOT EVERYTHING ALWAYS RECEIVES A GRANT, RIGHT? SO, UM, THERE'S SOME ITEMS SUCH AS A NEW BUS ENGINE. THERE'S NOT ALWAYS GRANTS OUT THERE FOR JUST A SINGLE BUS ENGINE. SO A LOT OF THE TIMES TDA COVERS THAT. UM, AND SO THE WHATEVER BALANCE THAT WE HAVE AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR IS ALWAYS CARRIED OVER, UM, AND IS AVAILABLE US FOR US TO USE, UH, FUTURE LEVELS. UM, SO IF YOU WANNA GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, I'LL DESCRIBE THE PROCESS. UM, SO TDA IS FIRST APPORTIONED BY MTC. THEY CALCULATE BASED ON FORMULAS AND REVENUES, SO WHATEVER REVENUE [00:40:01] IS GENERATED THEN, THEN MULTIPLY IT BY WHATEVER FORMULA. AND THAT AMOUNT IS THEN, UM, COMMUNICATED WITH S-C-T-C-A-S-C-T-C-A THEN APPLIES FURTHER FORMULAS BECAUSE WE HAVE, UM, SONOMA COUNTY TRANSIT IN THE REGION, RIGHT? SO WE, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT OUR FORMULAS ARE DEDICATED BASED UPON, UM, BASED UPON, YOU KNOW, RIDERSHIP POPULATION. UM, THEY HAVE VARIOUS FORMULAS THAT THEY USE THERE. AND SO AFTER S-C-T-C-A CALCULATES THAT AFTER THE, WHAT WE CALL INTER OPERATOR EXCHANGES, THEN WE HAVE WHAT WE CONSIDER OUR ALLOCATION REQUESTS FOR THAT YEAR. AND THIS IS DONE ANNUALLY. UM, S-C-T-C-A AND MTC GENERALLY PUT OUT QUARTERLY ESTIMATES, UM, FIRST MTC AND THEN S-C-T-C-A. UM, AND SO WHILE MTC MIGHT PUT OUT, UH, AN ANNOUNCEMENT OF THEIR, YOU KNOW, QUARTERLY ESTIMATE, I ALWAYS WAIT UNTIL S-C-T-C-A BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE, THERE'S FOUR FURTHER, UM, YOU KNOW, APPORTIONMENTS THAT HAPPEN. AND SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I GET THE BEST, UM, NUMBER FROM THAT. UM, AND THEN AS YOU SEE, YOU KNOW, GOLDEN GATE TRANSIT RECEIVES 25% OF ALL SONOMA COUNTY TRANSIT RELATED TDA FUNDS PRIOR, UM, TO THE COMPLETION OF THE MARIN SONOMA MASCOTS, MARIN SONOMA COORDINATED TRANSIT SERVICE PLAN. UM, BUT THEN WE ALSO HAVE SONOMA COUNTY TRANSIT FOR INNER CITY SERVICES, UM, AND WHICH IS GENERALLY LIKE 10%, UM, OF OUR APPORTIONMENT. SO A APPORTIONMENT GOES TO FUND AT VARIOUS PROGRAMS WITHIN THE COUNTY LEVEL FOR THE SERVICES THAT THEY PROVIDE AS WELL. UM, ONCE WE RECEIVE THAT, UM, S-C-T-C-A ALLOCATION, WE THEN GO AND SUBMIT AN ALLOCATION REQUEST ANNUALLY. SO IT'S, IT IS GENERALLY AN APPLICATION. WE GENERALLY GO TO TECH AND COUNCIL ANNUALLY, UM, AS PER THIS, AND IT'S DONE IN COORDINATION WITH THE STA FUNDS AS WELL. UM, AND THEN THE GO SONOMA FUND. SO IT'S A, IT'S WHAT WE CALL A COORDINATED CLAIM, UM, TO, UM, ASSIST US WITH NOT DOING THREE SEPARATE CLAIMS AND THEY JUST DO IT AS ONE, WHICH IS, UM, HELPFUL. AND THEN WE DETERMINE THE, UM, EX HOW MUCH WE WANT TO REQUEST ANNUALLY BASED UPON FIRST OUR EXPENSES, OUR REVENUES, AND THEN WHATEVER THAT GAP IS. UM, AND SO SOME YEARS, UM, SOME AGENCIES MAY CHOOSE TO USE LESS THAN WHAT THEIR APPORTIONED AMOUNT IS. UM, AND YOU MIGHT NOTICE THAT SPECIFICALLY DURING THE COVID YEARS WHERE WE HAD THAT LIFELINE SUPPORT FROM THE FTA, UM, SOME YEARS, UM, TRANSIT AGENCIES MAY CHOOSE TO REQUEST MORE THAN WHAT THEIR ANNUAL APPORTIONMENT IS BASED UPON THE, THEIR AVAILABLE BALANCE, YOU KNOW, CARRY OVER. UM, AND IT REALLY IS DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, ONE THEIR OPERATIONS, WHAT GAP DO THEY NEED TO FILL, BUT THEN POSSIBLY, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAPITAL PROJECTS DO THEY HAVE UPCOMING. AND IF YOU WANNA GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, I'LL KIND OF BREAK DOWN THE AVAILABILITY. SO THIS GRAPH MIGHT LOOK FAMILIAR TO YOU. THE WAY OUR AVAILABLE BALANCE IS CALCULATED IS WHATEVER OUR ANNUAL, UM, ALLOCATION IS CALCULATED BY MTC AND S-C-T-C-A, UM, WITH OUR RE OUR PRIOR YEAR REMAINING BALANCE. AND IF WE HAVE MULTIPLE YEAR PRIOR YEAR REMAINING BALANCE, IT'S ALL INTO ONE POT. UM, AND SO THAT BECOMES OUR AVAILABLE BALANCE. AND THEN FROM THAT, THE MAJORITY DOES GET, UM, ALLOCATED TO OUR ITS OPERATIONS, BUT THEN SOMETIMES WE DO USE IT TOWARDS CAPITAL REQUESTS AS WELL. UM, AND THE NEXT SLIDE WE'LL KINDA LOOK AT WHAT THOSE, YOU KNOW, REVENUES WILL LOOK LIKE. UM, YEAH, I THINK I JUST DESCRIBED ALL THAT. SO I'M GONNA GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. UM, TDA REVENUES. THANK YOU. UM, SO AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE AT THE TOP THE ALLOCATED AMOUNT. SO THAT IS THE AMOUNT THAT WE ARE ENTITLED TO CLAIM EVERY YEAR OR MORE IF WE CHOOSE TO, OR LESS IF WE CHOOSE TO, DEPENDING ON WHAT OUR AVAILABLE BALANCES. BUT THAT IS ESSENTIALLY IS THE AMOUNT THAT GETS ADDED TO OUR PIGGY BANK. UM, THE CARRYOVER IS WHATEVER IS REMAINING IN THE PIGGY BANK FROM THE PREVIOUS YEARS. UM, AND THEN WE HAVE OUR OPERATIONS REQUEST. SO THAT'S HOW MUCH WE NEED TO FILL THE GAP BETWEEN REVENUES AND EXPENSES. AND THEN WE HAVE OUR CAPITAL REQUESTS, WHICH IS GENERALLY BASED UPON PROJECTS OPERATIONS. WHEN WE DO OUR REQUEST, IT GOES STRAIGHT TO OUR, UM, LIKE THEY MAIL US A CHECK AND THAT'S OUR OPERATING, UM, YOU KNOW, REVENUE FOR THE YEAR CAPITAL. IT'S DIFFERENT, UM, CAPITAL, THEY'LL TAKE THAT AMOUNT FROM OUR, ESSENTIALLY OUR PIGGY BANK, AND THEN THEY PUT IT ASIDE AND THEN WE HAVE TO INVOICE FOR IT TO SHOW OUR CAPITAL EXPENSES. UM, AND IF WE DON'T USE THAT AFTER TWO YEARS, IT GOES BACK INTO OUR POT. UM, SO THAT'S THE UNIQUENESS OF THE CAPITAL. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S LIKE SO HARD TO LIKE PUT IN A, JUST A EXPENSES AND REVENUE SHEET BECAUSE THERE'S ALL THESE MOVING PARTS WITHIN TDA IN THERE. UM, BUT TDA SPECIFICALLY, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE THOSE LIMITATIONS, IT DOES ALLOW US SOME WIGGLE ROOM. UM, AND SO THAT'S WHY ONE OF OUR COST SAVINGS MEASURES IS SPECIFICALLY SOME UNUSED, UM, CAPITAL PROJECTS. IT'S GONNA, UM, EXPIRE THIS YEAR SO WE CAN PUT IT BACK INTO THE FUNDS AND SO IT'D BE AVAILABLE AND WE CAN REPURPOSE THAT FOR OPERATIONS. AND THEN WE ALSO [00:45:01] HAVE, UM, FTA GRANTS THAT SOMETIMES DO FUND CAPITAL AS WELL, SO WE CAN USE THAT, REPURPOSE THOSE GRANTS AS NECESSARY WITH FDA APPROVAL. UM, AS WELL, THIS DOESN'T GO INTO SPECIFICALLY, UM, CAPITAL EXPENSES BECAUSE EACH PROJECT KIND OF HAS ITS OWN DEDICATED REVENUE SOURCE AND IT'S GENERALLY FUNDED THROUGH GRANTS. AND THEN TDA JUST KIND OF FILLS THAT GAP OF LIKE HOWEVER MUCH GRANT FUNDING WE DON'T HAVE TDA WILL FUND IT. SO THE, THE GOAL FOR CAPITAL IS GENERALLY TO FUND EVERYTHING THROUGH GRANTS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. UM, BUT LIKE I SAID, SMALL ITEMS THAT FTA CLASSIFIES AS A CAPITAL ITEM SUCH AS AN ENGINE REBUILD, THAT GENERALLY HAS TO COME OUTTA TDA 'CAUSE THERE'S JUST NO MAJOR GRANT AVAILABILITY FOR THAT. UM, AND I THINK JARED HAS NEXT STEPS FOR US. THANK YOU KAMI. SO WE WANTED TO GO THROUGH AND UPDATE THE TIMELINE FOR THE REMAINDER OF THIS PROCESS. UH, WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING BUDGET OVER THE PAST COUPLE MEETINGS, BUT WE WANTED TO COME BACK TO HAVE A MORE IN DEPTH DISCUSSION TONIGHT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE PUBLIC HAS OR TAC HAS. BUT WE PROVIDE AN UPDATED TIMELINE FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE SERVICE MODIFICATION THAT YOU CAN SEE HERE. SO OF COURSE WE'RE MEETING TONIGHT AND STAFF IS CURRENTLY CREATING A SERVICE MODIFICATION MATRIX. WE SPOKE AT THE LAST MEETING ABOUT DOING A SERVICE MODIFICATION WORKSHOP. WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD A ENOUGH TIME TO PREPARE THAT ANALYSIS AND B, ENOUGH TIME TO ANSWER FULLY ALL REMAINING QUESTIONS WE HAVE ON THE BUDGET, WHICH WE'RE, UM, DOING TONIGHT. SO THAT WORKSHOP IS NOW GONNA BE ON JANUARY 20TH FOR THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED TAC MEETING. AND, UH, ONE THING WORTH NOTING WHEN WE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT ALL THESE DATES, THESE ARE CURRENTLY TENTATIVE, ESPECIALLY THE COUNCIL DATES, SO I WOULD SAY KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WELL. AND SO THAT WOULD BE A MEETING DEDICATED ALMOST ENTIRELY TO THE DISCUSSION OF SERVICE MODIFICATIONS, REDUCTIONS. AS WE TALKED ABOUT LAST MEETING, WE'LL BE RUNNING THROUGH A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT CHANGES THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY BE MAKING TO ADDRESS THE REVENUE SHORTFALL THAT CAN BE PROVIDED AN OVERVIEW FOR. AND IT COULD BE THINGS SUCH AS CHANGES IN FAIR PROGRAMS, CHANGES TO SERVICE LEVELS ON ROUTES, SPAN OF SERVICE, HOW LATE OUR SERVICE RUNS. ALL OF THOSE TYPE OF OPTIONS WILL BE DISCUSSED MORE AT THE NEXT MEETING, NOT REALLY GOING INTO THOSE TONIGHT, BUT AT THE JANUARY MEETING, UH, THE FOLLOW UP TO THAT WOULD BE THE NEXT TAC MEETING. SO WHEREAS JANUARY 20TH IS GONNA BE A WORKSHOP WITHOUT ANY ACTION REQUESTED AT IT, THE OUTCOMES OF THAT OR HOPE TO CREATE A REQUESTED ACTION AT OUR FEBRUARY MEETING WHERE WE'LL PUT TOGETHER A SERVICE CHANGE PACKAGE THAT WE RECOMMEND AND WE'LL DISCUSS THAT AND POTENTIALLY HAVE AN ACTION COMING OUT OF TAC FROM THAT MEETING OF WHICH GOES ON TO A COUNCIL MEETING TENTATIVELY AGAIN ON MONDAY APRIL 6TH, WHERE WE'LL PRESENT A RECOMMENDED ACTION BASED ON THE PACKAGE THAT WE DISCUSSED WITH TAC. IF WE ADD APPROVAL ON THAT, THAT WILL BE THERE FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION. AND THEN WE HAVE A BACKUP TENTATIVE MEETING IDENTIFIED FOR COUNCIL. IF THE REMAINING ITEMS ARE RUNNING, UM, A BIT BEHIND, WE NEED MORE DISCUSSION TIME OR IF COUNCIL NEEDS A SECOND DISCUSSION BEYOND THE FIRST MEETING. SO THAT TAKES US ALL THE WAY UP THROUGH, UH, POTENTIAL APPROVAL IN APRIL OR MAY FROM COUNCIL OF ANY CHANGES. AND THEN THROUGH THE REMAINING MONTHS LEADING UP TO A JULY 5TH, 2026 START DATE, WE WOULD BE DOING SCHEDULING, OUTREACH, PROMOTION, SIGNAGE, ALL THOSE THINGS TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC IS AWARE OF ANY CHANGES PRIOR TO THEIR IMPLEMENTATION. AND SO THAT COMPLETES THE PRESENTATION. WE'RE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY. UM, THANK YOU. THAT WAS VERY IN DEPTH WITH A LOT OF INFORMATION, BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, THERE'S PLENTY OF DISCUSSION TO HAVE ON THIS. UM, BUT TO FIRST START OFF, UM, DO WE HAVE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY. SEEING HESITATION , UM, I WILL BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE AND, UM, UM, FRED, WELCOME , HOW ARE YOU? ? THAT'S OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, SO IF IT'S OKAY, WE CAN START ON THIS END OF THE ROOM OF THE D AND THEN HEAD TO MY RIGHT AND THEN I'LL CLOSE IT OFF. OKAY. FOR ME? YEP. MM-HMM . WELL TO BEGIN WITH, VERY GOOD PRESENTATION. I HAD A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS WHEN I CAME IN. I KEPT CROSSING THEM OFF AS YOU KEPT ADDRESSING THEM, ALTHOUGH I MAY WANNA WATCH THE RECORDING AGAIN 'CAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT WENT PAST. BUT COULD WE GO TO THE FOURTH SLIDE, JARED? YEP. AND THIS IS THE, THE ONE, THE REALLY PUZZLE. YEAH. LET ME PULL IT UP AND SHARE MY SCREEN IF YOU'LL GIMME A MOMENT. SURE, YEAH, THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU. I GUESS WHERE, [00:50:01] WHERE I'M PUZZLED IS WHY DOES THE BALANCE, THIS IS UNDER THE TDA, WHY DOES THE BALANCE FOR ONE YEAR NOT BECOME THE CARRYOVER IN YEAR TWO? I, I DON'T SEE WHAT THE DIFFERENCE THERE COULD BE. YEAH. SO THAT WAS DONE BY OUR CONSULTANTS. UM, SO AT THAT TIME THE BALANCE WASN'T PERFECTLY CALCULATED AND SO IT WAS CALCULATED BY GOING BACK INTO MTC. UM, IT'S A HARD WAY TO EXPLAIN IT, BUT ESSENTIALLY IT WAS, UM, A LOT OF DIGGING INTO PAST, UM, MTC FILES. AND SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE IT WAS. AND SO THE BALANCE IS KIND OF ESTIMATED, HOWEVER, I CAN CONFIRM THAT 24, 25 LIKE THIS IS GOING OFF OF OUR CURRENT INFORMATION, BUT BEFORE THAT, UM, OR TO ME STARTING OUR CONSULTANTS WERE KIND OF LIKE GOING BACK AND DOING MORE INVESTIGATIVE WORK. AND SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THE BALANCE IS. IT'S BASED UPON INVESTIGATIVE WORK THROUGH MTC AND THEN THE CITY, UM, REMAINING BALANCE AS WELL. OKAY. I MEAN, LET, LET'S COMING INTO MORE CURRENT TIME WHEN I SEE THE END OF BALANCE FOR FISCAL YEAR 25, UH, BEING 1,258 OR 1.2 MILLION, BUT THEN THE CARRYOVER FOR FISCAL YEAR 26 IS 4 MILLION. I WOULD'VE THOUGHT THOSE TWO NUMBERS WOULD BE THE SAME. YEAH, I THAT'S, I I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT, SO THAT 4 MILLION IS, UM, CURRENTLY WHAT MTC HAS A PORT CALCULATED. UM, AND SO IT, IT, I'M TRYING TO FIND THE RIGHT WAY TO WORD THIS. UM, 'CAUSE AS I WAS PUTTING IT IN THERE, I WAS LIKE, HMM, THIS IS FUNNY. BUT NO, SO THAT'S HOW THEY HAVE IT AT RIGHT NOW. UM, AND THEN WHEN I DID THE MATH OF THE CARRYOVER, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT IT'S SHOWING FOR THE 1.258. UM, BUT I CAN CONFIRM THE FOUR 4 MILLION IS WHAT MTC AND SCTA IS SHOWING FOR OUR AVAILABLE REMAINING BALANCE. UM, SO THE 1.2 IS KIND OF THE MATH THAT I HAD OF LIKE, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE SAYING, OUR REMAINING BALANCE IS, THIS IS WHAT IT SHOULD BE. UM, BUT BASED UPON THE 4 MILLION, EVERY TIME I LOG ONTO WHAT THEIR ESTIMATES ARE, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE CALCULATING FOR REMAINING BALANCE CARRYOVER. OKAY. , UM, THAT'S A $2.7 MILLION DIFFERENCE, WHICH IS ROUGHLY THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE'RE LOOKING AT OVER THE 10 YEAR PROJECTION. THAT BECOMES OUR PROBLEM. IT'S SORT OF LIKE WE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF WE HAVE A PROBLEM OR NOT BASED ON THAT UNCERTAINTY. YEAH, NO, I HEAR YOU. I, THAT'S WHY I'M, I'M GOING REALLY OFF OF THE FY 25 26, UM, BECAUSE THAT IS THEIR PUBLISHED AMOUNT. UM, THAT IS THE CONFIRMED AMOUNT THAT WE HAVE. UM, BUT PRIOR TO THAT IT, IT REALLY WAS A LOT OF INVESTIGATIVE WORK AND ESTIMATIONS BASED UPON, UM, YOU KNOW, THE SHUFFLING OF FUNDS AND WHAT ISN'T REFLECTIVE IS SOMETIMES, UM, SOME OF THE APPORTIONMENTS GET APPLIED TO PREVIOUS YEAR FUNDS DEPENDING ON WHEN, UM, LIKE THE CHIP CAME THROUGH. SO SOMETIMES IT WAS LIKE, OH, WE ESTIMATED THIS MUCH, BUT WE DID IT IN JANUARY AND SO THE FOLLOWING YEAR WE HAVE TO ESTIMATE THIS MUCH TO, UM, PAY FOR, YOU KNOW, 25 AND 26 AND 26 AND 27, WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE. YEAH. I MEAN, THAT REALLY FEELS LIKE A BLACK BOX AND I, IF WE CAN FIND A BETTER WAY TO EXPLAIN THAT, UH, OVER THE NEXT MONTH, THAT'D BE GREAT. AND MAYBE WE CAN'T GET THERE, BUT THAT, THAT'S TOUGH. YEAH, THAT WAS THE FIRST SIX MONTHS OF ME STARTING HERE. I WAS TRYING TO LIKE FIGURE OUT, AND IT'S STILL NE YEAH, . OKAY. OKAY. YEAH. IF WE CAN KEEP WORKING ON IT, THAT'D BE GREAT. YEAH. AND I THINK I HEARD THIS OTHER, UH, ANSWER ON THE WAY BY, BUT WITH MASCOTS RESULTING IN A REAPPORTIONMENT OF, I GUESS IT'S TDA FUNDS MM-HMM . WHERE DOES THAT DIFFERENCE SHOW UP? YEAH, SO THAT'S GONNA SHOW UP. IT'S SPECIFICALLY GONNA SHOW UP PARTIALLY IN TDA ALLOCATED AMOUNT. OKAY. UM, AND IT SHOULD SHOW UP IN 20, UH, 26, 27. UM, OKAY. SO YOU'RE GONNA SEE, UH, 2.6 MILLION FOR FY 25 26, BUT AN ESTIMATED 2.9 IN 26 27, AND THIS IS FROM THEIR MOST RECENT, UH, ESTIMATE. AND THEN I THINK WHAT I'VE HEARD BEFORE FROM MR. HALL IS THAT THERE WAS SOME EARLY ADJUSTMENT AS A RESULT OF MASCOT MM-HMM . SO WE ALSO SEE A, A $400,000 BUMP BETWEEN 25 26, AND THAT REPRESENTS FIRST SHARE OF MASCOTS. OKAY. YEAH. PRIOR TO THIS, I, I REACHED OUT TO S-C-T-C-A, JUST TO CONFIRM THE NUMBERS TO MAKE SURE I HAD THE UPDATED DATE ONES. OKAY, THANK YOU. YEAH, AND ONE OTHER THING WORTH NOTING ON THAT, IF I CAN, IS THAT NUMBER, THE JUMP IN THE TBA ALLOCATION FROM 24 25 TO 25 26, THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE CHANGE IN THE FORMULATION. IF WE WERE STILL UNDER THE OLD ONE, THAT NUMBER WOULD BE DOWN. THAT WOULD BE DECREASING. SO IT'S ONLY DUE TO THAT SHIFT THAT THAT NUMBER IS HIGHER. OTHERWISE WE'D BE LOOKING AT AN EVEN MORE DIFFICULT SITUATION. OKAY. THANK YOU. HI, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. UM, I JUST HAD A, YOU KNOW, QUICK COMMENT ON THE, THE UPCOMING TAX SERVICE [00:55:01] REDUCTION WORKSHOP. UM, I THINK I BROUGHT THIS UP A LITTLE BIT LAST TIME, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOME SORT OF NOD TO OR ATTEMPT AT TOTAL COST ACCOUNTING WHEN IT COMES TO, YOU KNOW, THE IDEA OF REMOVING ROUTES OR REDUCING SERVICES. UM, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE WHEN WE'RE TAKING AWAY ROUTES, THEN WE'RE ANTICIPATING MORE CARDS ON THE ROAD. LIKE WE WOULD ASSUME THAT THOSE PEOPLE ARE PROBABLY GONNA DRIVE. AND WHEN MORE PEOPLE ARE DRIVING, YOU HAVE MORE TRAFFIC, YOU'VE GOT MORE POLLUTION, YOU'VE GOT MORE WEAR AND TEAR ON THE ROADS. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN WE'RE AS A CITY THINKING ABOUT REMOVING THESE SERVICES, I'D LIKE US TO THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE FULL PICTURE AND NOT JUST WHAT THE SPECIFIC COSTS ARE, UM, FOR THE BUS SERVICE, BUT LIKE WHAT WE'RE MISSING OUT ON, WHAT, WHAT THOSE OTHER COSTS ARE THAT WE'RE NOT THINKING ABOUT THAT ARE REALLY ACTUALLY TIED TO THIS MATTER. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S POSSIBLE. I KNOW OTHER COUNTRIES, LIKE FOR INSTANCE, THE EUROPEAN UNION, THEY'VE GOT A HANDBOOK ON SORT OF ACCOUNTING FOR THESE SORTS OF EXTERNAL COSTS. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD TRY AND DO, UH, OR IF THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE REALM OF POSSIBILITY, BUT JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE THAT, THAT IS SOMETHING I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IN THESE DISCUSSIONS. YEAH, THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DEFINITELY TAKE A LOOK AT TO THE AMOUNT WE CAN QUANTIFY THOSE TYPE OF ELEMENTS. WE'LL INCORPORATE THAT INFORMATION IN THE DISCUSSION. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SURE. PATTY, SO I WASN'T HERE LAST TIME. , AS I UNDERSTAND IT, WE'RE FA FACING A REVENUE SHORTFALL, IS THAT CORRECT? ? YES. CORRECT. UM, OKAY. UM, THAT'S MY QUESTION. . THANK YOU GAIL. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. UM, MY FIRST, AND I, I EMAILED YOU, BUT UM, IF WE LOOK AT PAGE THREE, AND THEN EVERY TIME TRANSIT OPERATE RATING BUDGET SUMMARY SHOWS UP, FOR EXAMPLE, ON PAGE FOUR, I DID, I IT'S GREEN. IS THAT BETTER? OH MY GOD. UM, ANYWAY, REVENUE, IF I'M JUST LOOKING AT 2019, BECAUSE THAT'S THE FIRST ONE. UM, REVENUES TOTAL IS 42 0 5 ON PAGE THREE. AND OH, SORRY. UM, YOU WANNA BRING IT UP? YEAH, YOU, PAGE THREE, THAT WAS YES. YEAH, JUST A MOMENT. I, OKAY. OH, SO THE VERY FIRST SELL FOR REVENUES, WE HAVE 42 0 5, YOU KNOW, 4 MILLION, 205,000. AND THEN IF YOU GO TO PAGE FOUR, WE HAVE THE, UM, REVENUE SECTION AND THE TOTAL IS, UH, 1 4 11, SO 1,000,004. UM, AND I BELIEVE FROM OUR EXCHANGE THAT THAT DIFFERENCE IS THE ALLOCATED PLUS THE CARRYOVER THAT'S IN, UM, THE TDA SECTION. AND IF YOU EVER DO THIS AGAIN, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO, TO MAKE THAT CLEAR, I SPENT, I SPENT QUITE A WHILE GUESSING ON WHAT THAT WOULD BE. OKAY, THANK YOU AND THANKS DAVE FOR ASKING ABOUT THE, UM, 4 MILLION. I I WAS TRYING AND I, I WAS TRYING TO FOLLOW THE BALANCE TO THE CARRY OVER TOO. BUT IF I UNDERSTAND YOU CORRECTLY, BEFORE YOUR TIME, WE SORT OF LOST TRACK OF OUR BALANCE. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS NECESSARILY LIKE A, A CALCULATION, BUT TRYING TO GO BACK AND, UM, LIKE FORENSIC DISCUSSION, IT, THE, OUR, OUR CONSULTANTS WENT THROUGH AND LOOKED AT OUR PREVIOUS TD ALLOCATION AND THEN WHATEVER THE CITY ESTIMATED OUR, UH, REMAINING BALANCE. SO IT WAS KIND OF LIKE A COMBINATION WORK OF THE TWO. AND SO THAT'S WHAT, UM, THAT AMOUNT LOOKS LIKE. BUT WE RECOGNIZE THAT IT'S NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT PERFECT, WHICH IS WHY I AM REALLY FOCUSING ON WHAT MTC AND S-C-T-C-A HAVE PUBLISHED AT RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS THE 4 MILLION. OKAY. SO MTC THINKS WE HAVE 4 MILLION IN OUR, UM, BALANCE. CORRECT. WHEN WILL WE KNOW THAT THAT'S GONNA STICK, YOU KNOW, TO THE QUE TO THE QUESTION OF PLANNING? YEAH. SO THAT IS THE AMOUNT THAT THEY'RE SAYING WE COULD APPLY FOR RIGHT NOW. SO LIKE IF WE WERE TO SUBMIT OUR APPLICATION, THAT'S A . EXACTLY. SO, UM, BUT ALL OF THAT CHANGES. WELL, THAT FOUR THOU, YEAH. THAT IS THE AMOUNT THAT CARRIES OVER. IT'S THE TOP NUMBER WHEN YOU LOOK AT [01:00:01] THE TDA OF THE ALLOCATED AMOUNT THAT MIGHT CHANGE DEPENDING ON HOW MANY, HOW MUCH REVENUE IS GENERATED THROUGH SALES TAX. SO THAT'S THE NUMBER THAT ALWAYS WIGGLES. UM, BUT THE 4,000, UM, AFTER, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY, THEY'VE CUT ALL THE CHECKS FOR THE YEAR. UM, THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY DO THE SUBTRACTION. THEY'RE LIKE, OKAY, AFTER YOUR PREVIOUS YEAR, HERE'S WHAT'S AVAILABLE IN YOUR BALANCE. AND SO THAT'S THE, THE 4 MILLION RIGHT NOW. OKAY. AND USUALLY DETERMINING THE BALANCE IS SOME COMBINATION OF TALKING WITH MULTIPLE AGENCIES. IT'S A COMBINATION OF CMTC AND EVEN SONOMA COUNTY, WHICH IS A REPOSITORY FOR TDA. OKAY. SO WE ARE COUNTING ON IT IN THIS 'CAUSE WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, 53, WHATEVER THAT IS, 5 MILLION, 300,000 OR SOMETHING IN, OR NO, WE'VE ONLY GOT, WE'RE ONLY ESTIMATE THAT WE'RE REQUESTING 2,000,740, RIGHT? 40,000, UM, YES. AT THIS, UH, 2,000,738. YEAH. 40. YEAH, YOU'RE CORRECT. UM, THAT WOULD BE THE GAP NEEDED TO FILL THE REVENUE. UH, THAT'S THE REVENUE GAP NEEDED TO FILL. OKAY. BUT IF, IF WE'RE ALLOCATED ALMOST THAT AMOUNT, WHY ISN'T THE NEW BALANCE 4 MILLION? CORRECT. YEP. UM, SO THAT I, I WILL HAVE THAT CONFIRMED BY THE NEXT MEETING. I'LL MAKE SURE TO HAVE THAT CONFIRMED. YEAH. THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. OH, I'M SUCH A LITERAL PERSON. UM, ON PAGE 12, UH, YOU HAVE STATE FUNDING DECREASING, UH, DECREASED TDA REVENUE RECEIPTS AT SONOMA COUNTY LEVEL, UM, FOR THE LAST 11 QUARTERS. AND I, I THOUGHT THAT THE REVENUE RECEIPTS WERE STATEWIDE AND THEN ALLOCATED. SO I WASN'T QUITE SURE WHAT REVENUE RECEIPTS. SO THAT'S NOT THE TAX REVENUE, THAT'S THE, THE REVENUE RECEIPTS, THE TDA REVENUE, UH, I CAN TAKE THAT ONE. KAMI. SO THE FUNDING COMES IN FROM THE STATE LEVEL AND IT GOES FOR A FEW DIFFERENT LEVELS. IT FUNNELS INTO THE REGION, WHICH IS MTC, AND THEN MTC DETERMINES IT AT THE COUNTY LEVEL. SO EVEN AS A REGION, YOU MAY HAVE 1%, LIKE A 5% INCREASE, BUT THAT VARIES THROUGHOUT THE REGION. SOME COUNTIES MAY BE UP 2%, SOME MAY BE UP SEVEN. SO THEY DETERMINE AT A COUNTY LEVEL HOW MUCH THAT IS. AND THEN THEY SEND A BLOCK GRANT TO S-E-T-C-A, WHICH GETS SPLIT OUT LOCALLY AMONGST THE EXISTING OPERATORS AND AGREEMENTS. AND THAT'S A COORDINATED CLAIM THAT WE DO. SO THAT'S WHY WE SAY AT THE COUNTY LEVEL, BECAUSE IF YOU READ NUMBERS AT A REGIONAL LEVEL, THAT NUMBER MAY DIFFER FOR WHAT THE SONOMA COUNTY LEVEL. OKAY. I'LL PASS, BUT, WE'LL, YOU KNOW, NEVERMIND, I'LL GET IT LATER. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO I HAVE A CLARIFICATION ON THAT. 400,000. UM, I, I HAVE THIS MASTER SPREADSHEET THAT I USE AND, UM, THE PRIOR YEAR, TDA PROJECTED CARRY OVER? THAT'S CORRECT. UM, WHAT HAPPENS IS MTC SOMETIMES ISSUES THEIR ESTIMATES PRIOR TO WHEN THEY'VE CUT THE CHECKS. AND SO LAST YEAR'S, UM, REQUEST WASN'T REQUESTED IN THERE. AND I HAVE A NOTE IN MY MASTER ONE THAT I DIDN'T CARRY OVER INTO THE PRESENTATION. SO THAT 400,000, 4 MILLION THAT YOU'RE SAYING ISN'T MATTING OUT, IT'S BECAUSE THE BOTTOM LINE IS CORRECT. BUT I DIDN'T ADD THAT ONE LINE OF THIS ONE HADN'T BEEN CUT AT THE TIME AND THEREFORE LIKE RIGHT, LIKE THE WHOLE, LIKE, SO I ACCOUNTED IT INTO THERE BECAUSE I KNEW THAT THEIR CALCULATIONS WERE NOT THE MOST AT THE TIME. SO THAT 400,000 OR THAT 4 MILLION IS ESSENTIALLY 400 OR THEIR, THE 1.25 IS THE CORRECT AMOUNT OF CARRYOVER FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR. SO YOU'RE CORRECT IN THE CARRYOVER, THE NUMBER THAT I HAD COPIED AND PASTED FROM MY SPREADSHEET ALSO ACCOUNTS FROM A LINE THAT I DON'T HAVE IN YOUR PRESENTATION TO ACCOUNT FOR ME TO THINK ABOUT. FYI, THEY HAVEN'T PROGRAMMED THIS YET. THEREFORE, DON'T FORGET THAT'S NOT THE TRUE NUMBER. SO PLEASE, FOR ANY CONFUSION, I APOLOGIZE. I JUST WANNA CLARIFY THAT THAT IS WHAT THAT 4 MILLION CURRENTLY REPRESENTS IS THE 3.6 MILLION REQUESTS STILL PENDING FROM LAST YEAR AT THAT TIME. OKAY. SO 'CAUSE WE MADE A, AN OPERATIONS REQUEST OF 3 MILLION AND THEY END 440,000 FOR CAPITAL. AND THEY DIDN'T CUT THE CHECK. YES. OKAY. AT, AT, AT THAT TIME THAT THEY ISSUED THAT CALCULATION. SO THAT IS WHAT THAT IS. SO THE BOTTOM [01:05:01] LINE, IF YOU LOOK AT FY 25 AND FY 26, THAT IS THE CORRECT BOTTOM LINE REPRESENTED. UM, MY SPREADSHEET JUST HAS A LOT OF DETAILS THAT EVEN MORE THAN I PRESENTED TO YOU ALL TONIGHT THAT I DIDN'T WANNA LIKE REALLY BORE YOU ALL WITH. SO, BUT I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. UM, JUST A CLARIFICATION ON PAGE 14, UH, WITH THE GO SONOMA, UM, THE 2% IS, IS THE GRAND TOTAL 660,000 AND THEN 2% OF THAT IS THE 74. SO THAT WHAT'S LEFT ON TOP IS DOWN TO 586 OR WHATEVER. NO. SO THE GRAND TOTAL IS ABOUT, I CAN'T DO THAT MATH IN MY HEAD, BUT 700 SOMETHING, 7 34. YEAH. UM, BUT BECAUSE 2% IS DEDICATED TOWARDS FAIR FREE, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO SPLIT IT UP IN OUR BUDGET SO THAT WAY WE KNOW SPECIFICALLY. THANK YOU. DO WE KNOW WHAT THE NEW GOLDEN GATE ALLOCATION WILL BE INSTEAD OF 25%? UM, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT PERCENT THAT THEY'LL BE RECEIVING AS A RESULT. I WOULD'VE TO CHECK OUR SHEETS. WE CAN GET THAT TO YOU BY THE NEXT MEETING. THANK YOU. I'M JUST NOSY. I DON'T NEED . IT'S GENERALLY THAT FUNDING IS BEING SPLIT SEVERAL DIFFERENT WAYS. SO THE SHIFT, THE PERCENT INCREASE FOR PETALUMA TRANSIT AT SONOMA COUNTY TRANSIT AT SANTA ROSA CITY BUS AND ALSO SMART. I DON'T RECALL OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD THE PERCENT THAT GOLDEN GATE IS LEFT WITH AT THAT POINT, BUT I'LL LOOK FOR YOU. YOU DON'T NEED TO LOOK. I WAS JUST, IF YOU KNEW I WAS CURIOUS. I, OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PATIENCE WITH MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. OKAY. I GUESS THAT'S ME, . UM, SO, UM, TWO COMMENTS AND A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. UM, THERE'S ALREADY A LOT OF INFORMATION ON HERE, SO I'M, I'M VERY GLAD TO SEE IT. BUT UM, JUST I'M VERY VISUAL AND I THINK WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS STUFF FOR A DISCUSSION OR FOR LATER, I'D LIKE TO SEE KIND OF THE PERCENTAGE CHANGES MM-HMM . UM, YEAR OVER YEAR TO KIND OF GET A BETTER SENSE OF WHERE THE TRAJECTORY ON THINGS ARE GOING. UM, BUT JUST, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THERE'S ALREADY A LOT ON THERE . UM, I DID WANT TO ECHO A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT LESLIE WAS SAYING WITH UM, HOPEFULLY OUR DISCUSSION OF THE FUTURE ON KIND OF THE MORE SOCIOECONOMIC IMPACTS THAT THIS IS GONNA HAVE. UM, BUT ALSO JUST A, YOU KNOW, STARTING DISCUSSION OF ALTERNATIVES. UM, WOULD THAT BE CHANGING OUR ROUTES? WOULD THAT MEAN LIMITATIONS TO LUGO? ALL THAT TYPE OF STUFF. BY NO MEANS DO WE EXPECT THIS TO BE KIND OF THE DIRECTION THAT WE NEED TO GO, BUT SIMILAR TO OUR, UM, MEETING WITH, UH, PBA JUST A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, YOU KNOW, WE SAW DIFFERENT SCENARIOS OF HOW THINGS WOULD PLAY OUT. OBVIOUSLY THE DEGREE OF HOW MUCH DETAIL WE CAN GET THERE IS STILL TELLING OF THE CONVERSATION, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT IN THE FUTURE. UM, I, AND THEN ONTO MY QUESTIONS, UM, I NOTICED THE 180,000 THAT COMES FROM OUR GENERAL FUND, I THINK I HEARD SOMEONE MENTION THAT THIS WAS FIXED, THAT THAT WAS NOT GONNA CHANGE YEAR OVER YEAR. I GUESS TWO QUESTIONS. WHY IS THAT? AND TWO, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DISCUSSED TO BE ATTACHED TO BASED ON INFLATION? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA ANSWER SINCE YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN IN THE DISCUSSIONS PRIOR TO ME . YEAH. SO WHEN THAT WAS APPROVED, THAT WAS APPROVED AS PART OF THE ONGOING CITY BUDGET AND IT WAS APPROVED AS A FLAT AMOUNT. MM-HMM . THERE HASN'T BEEN DISCUSSIONS ON INCREASING THAT DUE TO INFLATION OR INCREASED RIDERSHIP. SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, THAT'S THE AMOUNT THAT'S CARRIED FORWARD IN THE BUDGETS. OF COURSE, THE BUDGET GETS DISCUSSED EVERY YEAR DEPENDING ON FUNDING, DEPENDING ON PRIORITIES. SO I THINK THAT COULD BE PART OF THE DISCUSSION OF THE WIDER CITY BUDGET, HOW MUCH THAT AMOUNT IS. OKAY, SO THIS, THIS NOTION OF IT FIXED, IT'S JUST OBVIOUSLY FOR THIS YEAR THE DISCUSSION CAN COME UP FOR REAL EVALUATION OF HOW MUCH WE WOULD GET THE NEXT BUDGET DISCUSSIONS. YEAH, VERY MUCH SO. SIMILAR TO ANY CITY BUDGETARY ITEM. OKAY. IT'S ALSO WORTH NOTING THAT THE CITY AS A WHOLE IS IN DIFFICULT FINANCIAL TIMES AS WELL. YES. SO I'M SURE THAT WILL BE PART OF THE DISCUSSION IF IT COMES UP AS PART OF THE LARGER OVERALL DIALOGUE. RIGHT. THANK YOU. UM, AND THEN FOR MEASURE M, GO SONOMA, WAS THERE A MENTION OF WHEN THIS SUNSETS? UM, IT, IT'S WHAT LIKE MANY YEAR 10, 13, SOMETHING LIKE THAT YEAR, 12 YEAR, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. UM, HOWEVER LONG MEASURE M IS GO IS THE SAME AMOUNT. UM, BUT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I DON'T REMEMBER THIS SPECIFIC. I KNOW JARED'S LOOKING IT UP RIGHT NOW, BUT I KNOW IT'S MORE THAN 10 YEARS. UM, BUT LESS THAN I THINK 20 YEARS. [01:10:02] OKAY. GOT IT. YEAH. AND I CAN PROBABLY LOOK THAT UP MYSELF TOO. . THANK YOU. I HAD IT. . . IT'S OKAY. IT WAS AN ADDITIONAL 20 YEARS. OH, EXCUSE ME, . OKAY, GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION WAS, UM, IN RELATION TO GRANTS. SO THERE WAS TALK ABOUT SOME OF THESE BEING VERY COMPETITIVE GOING FORWARD, BUT UM, LET ME PULL UP THE PAGE REALLY QUICK. I DON'T REMEMBER, COULD YOU PULL IT UP ON THE SLIDES? I DON'T REMEMBER WHICH PAGE. YEAH, IT'S DETAILS, SLIDE DETAILS SLIDE 17 JAR. ALRIGHT. YEAH. AND A, A BRIEF NOTE ON OUR, UM, SPREADSHEET. I, I DON'T ADD THE GRANT UNTIL IT'S BEEN AWARDED, UM, BECAUSE I JUST DON'T WANT TO COUNTER CHICKENS BEFORE THEY HATCH. UM, BUT OBVIOUSLY WE WILL CONTINUE TO APPLY FOR ANY TYPE OF GRANT THAT WE CAN. UM, AND AS THEY GET AWARDED THEY'LL BE PLUGGED INTO THE SPREADSHEET WHERE APPROPRIATE. OKAY. SO MY QUESTION AND KIND OF MY CONCERN IS WITH THE MOVE TRANSIT IMPROVE SAFETY GRANT, SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS ONE'S GIVEN ON A THREE YEAR CYCLE. TO WHAT DEGREE IS THIS AS COMPETITIVE AS THE TRANSPORTATION FUND FOR CLEAN AIR? BECAUSE I'M SEEING THAT YOU GUYS ARE ZEROING THAT ONE OUT. UM, BUT I GUESS BOTH OF THEM ARE COMPETITIVE IN THEIR OWN WAY. IS THERE DIFFERENCES AS TO HOW THAT PROCESS WORKS AND WHY THERE'S MORE OF A ASSURANCE THAT, WELL ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M LOOKING AT IT NOW AND I'M NOT SEEING A REASSURANCE FOR EITHER ONE OF THE TWO GRANTS IN THE FUTURE. SO I THINK I KIND OF ANSWERED MY QUESTION, BUT, UM, WHAT DO YOU GUYS PROJECT TO SEE FOR HOW YOU GUYS GO ABOUT WITH THOSE GRANTS IN THE FUTURE? I CAN ATTEMPT TO ANSWER IF YOU WANT ME TO. YEAH, GO AHEAD. TAKE FIRST. UM, SO I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A LOT OF CONTEXT TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. I APOLOGIZE. I'M A CONTEXT PERSON. UM, SO S-E-T-C-A GOES THROUGH CYCLES AND THEY KIND OF PLAY MATCHMAKER WITH VARIOUS GRANTS. AND SO WE, WE SUBMIT A VARIETY OF PROJECTS, WHICH I BELIEVE WE CAME TO TAX SOMETIME OVER THE SUMMER AND THEN WE ALSO WENT TO COUNCIL AS WELL. UM, AND THEN, UM, WHAT WE DO IS WE HAVE A LIST OF PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE AND WE GO THROUGH THE S-C-T-C-A CYCLE AND THEN WHAT THEY DO IS THEY GO THROUGH ON BEHALF OF US AND APPLY FOR SPECIFIC GRANTS WHERE THEY THINK WE WOULD MOST BE COMPETITIVE. UM, AND SO, UH, DEPENDING ON WHAT THOSE PROJECTS ARE, THAT'S HOW WE RECEIVED REGIONAL MEASURE THREE FUNDS IN THE LAST CYCLE. UM, OR, UM, THEY'VE ALSO APPLIED WITH TSIP. AND SO IT'S A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT THINGS INCLUDING MTIS. UM, AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER ONE CALLED BUILD BETTER, UM, OR BUILD BIKEWAYS AND PATHWAYS. UM, AND THAT WAS ALSO AWARDED TO THE CITY AS WELL FOR UM, OTHER PROJECTS AS IT RELATES TO BIKEWAY PATHWAYS. MM-HMM UM, AND SO BASED UPON THIS, THEY KIND OF LIKE TAKE ALL OF THE APPLICATIONS AND THEN THEY, THEY PUT IT WHERE THEY THINK EACH, UM, PROJECT WOULD BE MOST SUCCESSFUL AND THEY KIND OF LOOK AT IT ON THE RANGE OF THINGS OF LIKE, OH, IT'D BE SUCCESSFUL IN ALL OF THESE CATEGORIES. LET'S LOOK AT IT WITH, UM, ALL THESE OTHER APPLICATIONS TOO. SO THAT WAY ALL OF THE AGENCIES IN THE REGION AND CITIES IN IN, IN THE COUNTY CAN, UM, MAXIMIZE THE FUNDS. AND SO THAT'S KINDA HOW THAT IS. SO LIKE IT'S NOT THE MOST FORMAL OF APPLICATION PROCESSES THAT WE GO THROUGH, SUCH AS, YOU KNOW, THE LC OP APPLICATION THAT WE DO ANNUALLY BECAUSE IT'S THROUGH THAT SCT CA COORDINATED APPLICATION PROCESS WHERE THEY'RE TRYING TO UM, FIT PLUG, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS INTO WHAT WOULD BE MOST SUCCESSFUL. IS THAT, DID I COVER MOST OF THAT, JARED, WOULD YOU SAY? YEAH, SO WE'RE CURRENTLY IN THE MIDST OF WHAT'S KNOWN, THE CYCLE TWO GRANT APPLICATION PROCESS WITH S-E-T-C-A CYCLE ONE IS WHAT FUNDED OUR MTIS PROJECT AND THEN THE FUNDING THAT WE'RE GETTING THE REGIONAL MEASURE THREE FUNDING FOR OUR FACILITY ELECTRIFICATION. SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE CURRENTLY FINALIZING THE APPLICATIONS FOR CYCLE TWO. AND AS CAMMI ALLUDED TO, WE WERE DISCUSSING SEVERAL MONTHS BACK THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT WE APPLY TO EVERY TRANSIT AGENCY, EVERY CITY GETS A CERTAIN NUMBER OF SLOTS. SO THE CITY OF PETALUMA HAD FIVE SLOTS FOR TRANSIT PROJECTS, FIVE FOR NON-TRANS PROJECTS, ONE OF WHICH WAS A TRANSIT SERVICE PROGRAM. SO WE DON'T SHOW THAT HERE BECAUSE TO CAM'S POINT, WE WANNA BE CONSERVATIVE WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE BUDGET, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE OF THOSE FUNDS SINCE THEY'RE NOT FORMULA EARMARK TYPE FUNDS. SO WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT WE POTENTIALLY GET FUNDS FOR THAT, BUT AT THIS POINT WE DON'T WANNA SHOW THAT IN THE BUDGET 'CAUSE IT'S NOT CERTAIN. IT'S ALSO WORTH NOTING THAT WHEN YOU APPLY FOR THAT, GENERALLY THAT'S FOR EXPANDED TRANSIT SERVICE, NOT FOR FUNDING. EXISTING TRANSIT SERVICES ARE TYPICALLY RELUCTANT TO DO WITHOUT FUNDING. MM-HMM . MM-HMM . OKAY. THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR. SO IT SOUNDS ALMOST LIKE IT'S A HYBRID OF THE AFFORDABLE [01:15:01] HOUSING AND SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITIES. 'CAUSE IT KIND OF POOLS FROM DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT THE CITY WOULD BE WORKING ON. AND SO IT KIND OF BLENDS ITSELF IN WITH THAT TOO. RIGHT? YEAH. UM, SO THE SPECIFICALLY THE SERVICE EXPANSION IS, IS TIED TO BOTH THAT ONE AND THE OTHER ONE? YEAH. OR A CATEGORY. 'CAUSE THERE'S VARIOUS CATEGORIES FROM THE ASIC GRANT, UM, AND THAT SPECIFICALLY THE 400 K IS DEDICATED TO OPERATING SERVICE. YEAH. AND THE LEVELS ARE COMPETITIVE. THAT'S DIFFERENT. THE, UM, CYCLE TWO IS COMPETITIVE AT THE COUNTY LEVEL, WHEREAS I THINK A HSC IS COMPETITIVE AT THE STATE LEVEL I BELIEVE. I BELIEVE SO, YEAH. SO DIFFERENT AGENCIES, DIFFERENT PROCESSES. GOT IT. WITH THOSE. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT FOR ME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY MORE LAST MINUTE QUESTIONS? GAIL, I HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION ON, ON WHAT YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT THE GRANTS AND JUST LOOKING AT THIS AND THEN, AND WOULD YOU SAY IT'S ACCURATE THAT MOST GRANTS ARE MORE CAPITAL ORIENTED? ABSOLUTELY. SO THAT IT'S NOT SURPRISING THAT WE DON'T SEE LOTS OF MONEY. ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. I, I'VE JOINED AS MANY WEBINARS, UM, ANY TYPE OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT ANY TYPE OF GRANT WHEN POSSIBLE. AND THERE ARE ALMOST ALWAYS CAPITAL. UM, SO I JUMP ON ANY OPERATING, WELL OBVIOUSLY CAPITAL AS IT PERTAINS TO OUR PROJECTS, BUT I JUMP ON ANY OPERATING THAT I, I COULD FIND. SO AS ALWAYS, PLEASE SEND ME ANYTHING THAT YOU SEE 'CAUSE I WILL ALWAYS LOOK INTO WHATEVER WE CAN FOR OPERATING. THANKS GAIL. SO A FEW MORE QUICK COMMENTS IF I CAN, MR. CHAIR. SO AS A REMINDER, WE'LL BE DOING THAT DECEMBER THE, UH, JANUARY WORKSHOP ATTACK. SO WE ENCOURAGE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY TO ATTEND THAT. WE'LL BE DOING PROMOTION OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL WEEKS. SO WE'LL BE DOING THAT ON SOCIAL MEDIA, ON WEBSITES. WE ENCOURAGE EVERYONE HERE TO HELP SPREAD THE WORD BECAUSE WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY IS VERY AWARE OF THAT MEETING BECAUSE WE'LL BE HAVING SOME VERY LARGE SCALE SUBSTANTIVE DISCUSSIONS. SO WE HOPE THAT WE HAVE GOOD ATTENDANCE AND A ROBUST DISCUSSION. AND SEVERAL OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED, ESPECIALLY FROM YOURSELF IN PARTICULAR, ARE THINGS WE'LL BE LOOKING AT. SO WE'LL BE LOOKING AT MODIFICATIONS, AS I MENTIONED, IT COULD BE SPAN OF SERVICE THROUGHOUT, UNDER SEVERAL DIFFERENT LENSES. COST SAVINGS, RIDERSHIP IMPACTS, EQUITY CONSIDERATIONS, SOME OF THE OTHER ONES WE TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT. ALL THOSE WILL BE PART OF THE ANALYSIS THAT WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER THAT WE'LL BE DISCUSSING AT THAT WORKSHOP. GREAT. THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, I'M SORRY, PATTY HAD A QUESTION. NO, GO AHEAD. . OH NO, SORRY. THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE. UM, SO AS I SAID, I'M JUST KIND OF CATCHING UP ON THIS AND SO I DON'T KNOW THAT I AM UNDERSTANDING EXACTLY WHAT THE REVENUE SHORTFALL IS. HOWEVER, UM, I THINK A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO I MENTIONED TALKING TO HEALTHY PETALUMA AND UM, I WAS REMINDED OF THAT BECAUSE THE SPEAKER TONIGHT WAS GOING TO A BLUE ZONES EVENT. SO I THINK IT WOULD BE WORTHWHILE TO TALK TO PEOPLE ABOUT HOW, UH, THERE'S A REVENUE SHORTFALL WHICH MIGHT RESULT IN SERVICE REDUCTION AND HOW DOES THAT FIT INTO WHAT, UM, HEALTHY PETALUMA AND BLUE ZONES IS TRYING TO DO TO GET PEOPLE MOVING, TO GET PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR CARS, TO GET THAT KIND OF COMMUNITY, UH, INVOLVEMENT, UH, IF WE HAVE TO CUT BACK ON, UM, ON SOME OF THESE SERVICES. UH, AND SO I DON'T KNOW TO WHAT EXTENT ANYBODY GOES TO PRIVATE FUNDERS, UH, TO HELP WITH FUNDING OF TRANSIT, BUT IT MIGHT BE USEFUL TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT SOME OF THOSE SOURCES MIGHT BE. YEAH, AS KAMI SAID, WE'RE OPEN TO ANY FUNDING SOURCE, WHETHER THAT'S PUBLIC, PRIVATE, OR OTHERWISE. SO IF YOU DO COME ACROSS ANY, PLEASE SEND 'EM OUR WAY AND WE'RE HAPPY TO REACH OUT TO THOSE FOLKS TO SEE IF THEY KNOW OF ANY UPCOMING GRANTS THAT MAY BE HELPFUL TO US. YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M, I'M HAPPY IF, IF YOU GUYS CAN CONTACT HEALTHY PETALUMA IN A RANGE OF MEETING, I'M HAPPY TO COME WITH YOU. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL, BUT, UM, I I THINK THAT THIS IS PROBABLY A DISCUSSION SIMPLY THEY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GONNA SAY, BUT AT LEAST THEY SHOULD KNOW. ABSOLUTELY. UH, MR. CHAIR, ONE OTHER THING, SORRY, I FORGOT QUICK. I ALSO WANT TO POSE AFTERWARDS QUESTION POSE A QUESTION TONIGHT. UM, OUR REGULAR MEETINGS OF COURSE START AT 5:00 PM I WANTED TO SEE REGARDING THE WORKSHOP NEXT MONTH, IF PEOPLE FEEL THAT SAME TIME IS APPROPRIATE. I BELIEVE WE DISCUSSED LAST MEETING. DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO SHIFT THAT, UM, MAYBE YOU PERHAPS MOVE IT LATER KNOWING THAT WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE ROBUST COMMUNITY ATTENDANCE, BUT I WANTED TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY THOUGHTS ON IF WE [01:20:01] MAINTAIN THE 5:00 PM STAR TIME OR IF WE POSSIBLY MODIFY THAT THAT'S, YEAH, I WANNA GET THOUGHTS ON THAT FIRST ACTUALLY. YEAH, I FEEL LIKE IF WE WANT A, A GOOD AMOUNT OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IN THE WORKSHOP, MOVING IT LATER WOULD PROBABLY BE HELPFUL FOR MOST WORKING PEOPLE. GAIL, DID YOU HAVE, I WAS JUST WONDERING JARED, IF YOU HAD A THOUGHT ON THAT. SO I THINK THE MEETING, I COULD IMAGINE IT RUNNING MORE THAN TWO HOURS. I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO MOVE IT LATER. PERSONALLY, I THINK IF WE DO IT AT 6:00 PM WE WOULD LIKELY HAVE MORE ATTENDANCE. AND I WOULD SAY WE SHOULD ALSO PERHAPS PLAN ON THAT RUNNING MORE THAN OUR TYPICAL TWO HOUR MEETING. WE'RE FORTUNATE THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER MEETING THAT RUNS AFTER US THAT WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT, ABOUT COMPETING AGAINST. UM, SO I WOULD PERSONALLY RECOMMEND A 6:00 PM START TIME AND PLANNING ON POSSIBLY GOING BEYOND TWO HOURS. BUT THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. AND, AND WE DID THAT WITH PAC, SO JUST A COUPLE WEEKS AGO IT WAS AT SIX. THEY, THEY'VE, THEY WE'RE REALLY GONNA TARGET PEOPLE WHO RIDE THE BUS REGULARLY. COULD WE COME UP WITH SOME WAY TO USE PETALUMA TRANSIT TO GET PEOPLE HOME WHO CHOOSE TO COME HERE TO THAT MEETING THAT NIGHT AND AFTER TRANSIT SERVICE HAS ENDED VERY MUCH SO WE CAN COME UP WITH AN OPTION OF THAT GIVEN KIND OF THE UNIQUE ASPECT TO THE MEETING AND THE IMPORTANCE OF GETTING PEOPLE HERE. WE'LL PUT TOGETHER SOME SORT OF SHUTTLE OPTION TO MAKE THAT POSSIBLE. GREAT. SO, UM, ON THE TOPIC OF OUTREACH, UM, IS, I DON'T KNOW HOW CONVENTIONAL THIS IS, BUT YOU KNOW, PART OF OUR ROLES AS COMMITTEE MEMBERS IS TO BE ADVOCATES AND TO, YOU KNOW, DISSEMINATE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE ON HERE TO THE PUBLIC. IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE CAN HAVE KIND OF LIKE A, LIKE A TOOLKIT OR LIKE AN INFOGRAPHIC THAT WE'RE ABLE TO PRESENT TO GROUPS AND TO COLLEAGUES THAT WE KNOW WE CAN DELIVER THIS INFORMATION IN A WAY THAT WORKS FOR THEM? YEAH, WE HAVE A, A STAFF MEMBER THAT'S WORKING ON COMMUNICATING THIS AND CREATING, YOU KNOW, SOME SORT OF ADVERTISING CAMPAIGN, UM, THAT WE CAN HAVE, UM, THEM SHARE WITH YOU SO THAT WAY YOU CAN ALSO, YOU KNOW, SHARE TO YOUR CONTACTS AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. UM, IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, I DON'T, ARE YOU ASKING FOR LIKE TALKING POINTS OR JUST LIKE MATERIALS THAT YOU CAN LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE POST ON SOCIAL MEDIA OR LIKE, YOU KNOW, EMAIL OR FLYERS THAT YEAH, THAT, I MEAN YOU GUYS, I MEAN MOSTLY THE WAY I WAS ANGLING THIS WAS, I KNOW YOU GUYS PROBABLY HANDLE SOCIAL MEDIA PR PRETTY WELL, BUT IN TERMS OF BILINGUAL AUDIENCES OR YES, EVEN TALKING POINTS, THAT WOULD BE GOOD TOO BECAUSE I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'RE UP HERE AND WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND WE KINDA MM-HMM . SPEAK IN A BUBBLE SOMETIMES. SO INFORMATION THAT WE KNOW, WE CAN, UM, JUST SUMMARIZE THINGS A LOT EASIER FOR FOLKS WHO MAY NOT BE COMPLETELY IN THE KNOW OF THINGS. YEAH, I, I, I BELIEVE WE'RE PLANNING TO PROVIDE, UM, ADVERTISING BOTH ENGLISH AND SPANISH, UM, AS WE HAVE A DEDICATED BILINGUAL STAFF MEMBER. SO YEAH. OKAY. AND PROBABLY, UM, AN OBVIOUS QUESTION BUT WE'LL THIS WILL BE ADVERTISED ON OUR, ON OUR TRANSIT ROUTES, RIGHT? , YEAH, VERY MUCH SO. ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE GONNA DO IS BOTH ON THE BUS YOU'LL SEE SIGNAGE AND AT OUR MAJOR TRANSIT HUB BUS STOPS, YOU'LL SEE SIGNAGE THERE. WE WANNA GET WIDE COVERAGE. SO IT'S A COMBINATION OF PHYSICAL SIGNAGE WHERE PEOPLE ARE, WHEN THEY'RE RIDING THE BUS, SOCIAL MEDIA, ONLINE EMAIL, WE'RE GONNA COVER ALL THE DIFFERENT BASES. YEAH, OKAY. AND I GUESS, UM, TO ADD TO THAT, IS THIS ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE INVOLVE, UM, THE PRESS OR MAYBE SOMEONE WHO CAN GET THIS TO WIDER AUDIENCES FOR HEALTHY DISCUSSIONS? I WOULD SAY SO I THINK WE WANNA SPREAD THE WORD AND THAT'S PART OF IT AS WELL. SO I THINK WE'LL ALSO INCLUDE THEM ON THE MESSAGING SO THEY CAN BECOME AWARE AND IF THEY WANNA HAVE DISCUSSION ON IT, THEY CAN, UH, PROVIDE COVERAGE AS WELL. GREAT. THANK YOU. OKAY, ONE QUESTION I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH, OH, SORRY. THANKS. WITH GREEN LIGHTS, , NO, I HAVE A, A, AN ISSUE IN THAT I HAVE A, A CORAL GROUP I PARTICIPATE IN ON TUESDAY EVENINGS. IT DOESN'T START TILL SIX 30 USUALLY. SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, I'LL, I'LL PLAY IT BY EAR. BUT DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE TIME CHANGE THAT'S BEING SUGGESTED HERE? IF NOT, I PROBABLY WILL JUST BE QUIET AND STEP ASIDE OR NOT GO TO THE OTHER CORAL AS OFTEN. THAT MEAN THAT THAT'S ALL DO WHAT PEOPLE WANT CAN'T STAND AND IT'S A ONE TIME CHANGE. IT'S JUST A ONE TIME. YES. OH, WE EXPECT THAT THIS WILL HAVE A LOT MORE DISCUSSION SO IF IT CAN BE PUSHED LATER, THAT'S YEAH, I THOUGHT WE WERE LOOKING AT THE SCHEDULE THERE. YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT CHANGING THE OH YEAH, NO, HAPPY . THANK YOU. SO WE'LL PLAN THEN WE'LL PLAN THEN FOR THAT JANUARY WORKSHOP TO START THAT AT 6:00 PM GOOD, THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, I THINK WE CAN MOVE ON NOW TO UM, THE MEETING MINUTES. OH, IT LOOKS LIKE ACTUALLY ARE WE GETTING THOSE APPROVED FOR OUR JANUARY MEETING? IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, THE NOVEMBER 18TH. WE'LL BE APPROVING THE NOVEMBER MEETING [01:25:01] MINUTES AT OUR JANUARY MEETING. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, UM, SO THAT MOVES ON TO PUBLIC HEARING AND MATTERS OF CONSIDERATION OF WHICH WE HAVE DONE AT THIS TIME. SO WE CAN MOVE ON TO, UM, COMMITTEE COMMENT. WOULD OF US LIKE TO START US OFF? OKAY. , IT DOESN'T SEEM [STAFF COMMENT] SO, SO WE CAN MOVE ON TO OUR STAFF REPORT. UM, AND I'M ALWAYS LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR REPORTS JARED, SO TAKE IT AWAY. THANK YOU AGAIN. SO WE CONTINUE PROGRESS ON OUR TRANSIT FACILITY ELECTRIFICATION PROJECT, IF PEOPLE HAVE GONE BY, THINGS ARE MOVING RELATIVELY QUICK THERE AND SO WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE EVERYTHING COMPLETED AROUND MID-JANUARY AND OF COURSE WE'RE STILL PLANNING ON DOING A RIBBON CUTTING OR OPEN HOUSE CEREMONY OF SOME SORT ONCE WE HAVE THAT TIMELINE LOCKED DOWN. SO AGAIN, STAY TUNED FOR THAT. BUT THINGS ARE COMING ALONG ACCORDING TO SCHEDULE ON THAT PROJECT. A LITTLE BIT OF INCLEMENT RAIN COMING UP THIS WEEK. SO HOPEFULLY WE WILL, UH, HOPE FOR A DRY WEEK OR TWO. UH, AS MASCOTS WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, GENERALLY THE MASCOTS PLAN HAS NOW BEEN APPROVED BY ALL THE DIFFERENT AGENCIES. AND SO THE IMPLEMENTATION DATE FOR THAT IS STARTING IN APRIL OF 2026. AND SONOMA COUNTY TRANSIT WILL BE RUNNING THE TRANSITIONAL SERVICE THAT RUNS FROM APRIL TO JUNE, 2026. SO PEOPLE WHO ARE ON THOSE LATE NIGHT GOLDEN GATE TRANSIT 1 0 1 TRIPS, WE'LL HAVE A FEW MORE MONTHS TO HOPEFULLY MAKE THE TRANSITION LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE. THAT LATE NIGHT SERVICE WILL BE OPERATED BY SONOMA COUNTY TRANSIT IS ROUTE 51 FROM NEVADA NORTH, INCLUDING GOING THROUGH PETALUMA. AND OF COURSE THERE'S SEVERAL OTHER CHANGES IN MASCOTS. UM, I WON'T BORE PEOPLE WITH THE DETAILS, BUT YOU CAN FIND THOSE ONLINE ON THE WEBSITE IN THE PACKET. AND WE'VE COVERED THOSE, DISCUSSED THOSE AT PRIOR MEETINGS AS WELL. PEOPLE MAY HAVE SEEN THAT CLIPPER VERSION 2.0 OR NEXT GENERATION CLIPPERS ROLLED OUT. SO THE OFFICIAL LAUNCH DATE OF THAT WAS DECEMBER 10TH. PETALUMA TRANSIT, IT'S OF COURSE FAIR FREE, SO THERE'S NOT REALLY A NEED FOR CLIPPER CARD AT THE MOMENT, BUT IF PEOPLE ARE RIDING OTHER TRANSIT AGENCIES LIKE SMART GOLDEN GATE TRANSIT OR ANYWHERE IN THE REGION THAT'S NOW LIVE. SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS YOU CAN NOW USE YOUR CREDIT CARD. YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A CLIPPER CARD TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR YOUR TRANSIT FAIR LOADING VALUE A LOT FASTER THROUGH YOUR ACCOUNTS. ALL OF THOSE ELEMENTS ARE NOW LIVE WITH A NEW CLIPPER 2.0 SYSTEM. SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED. THAT WAS A PROJECT MANY YEARS IN THE MAKING. UH, WE HAD OUR LAKEVILLE HIGHWAY JOINT MEETING WITH PBA ON DECEMBER 3RD, SO WE HAD A GREAT DISCUSSION AT THAT. UM, OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF COMMENTS ON THE BIKE HEAD SIDE, THE TRANSIT SIDE, PEOPLE WANTED TO SEE IMPROVEMENTS IN MISSING SIDEWALK GAPS, CONNECTIONS TO REGIONAL TRAILS IMPROVEMENT ON TRANSIT, WHETHER THAT'S OPERATING OR CAPITAL LIKE BUS STOP IMPROVEMENTS. THE NEXT MAJOR PIECE NOTED WITH THAT IS AN UPCOMING OPEN HOUSE ON WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 28TH. THAT'LL BE 6:00 PM AT ME WALK ELEMENTARY, WHICH IS JUST OFF OF UH, BAYWOOD DRIVE. SO OVER KIND OF NEAR LAKEVILLE AND BAYWOOD. AND SO THERE'S A PROJECT WEBSITE IF PEOPLE WANNA PROVIDE COMMENTS, BUT THAT OPEN HOUSE WILL BE ONE THAT WILL ALSO BE LOOKING TO HELP SPREAD THE WORD THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY TO HOPEFULLY HAVE ROBUST ATTENDANT TO THAT UH, MEETING AS WELL. AND THEN ONE THING WORTH NOTING IS WE HEARD ABOUT FROM PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THE BEGINNING, THE PETALUMA NORTH SITE SPECIFIC PLAN IS ONGOING. WE HAD OPEN HOUSE MEETING ON THAT LAST WEEK. ALSO GREAT ATTENDANCE, THE CALL FOR PEOPLE TO SERVE ON THE WORKING GROUP CLOSE ON FRIDAY, DECEMBER 12TH. WE WILL HAVE CONFIRMED PARTICIPATION FROM THE TRANSIT ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON THERE. I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF THE MEMBERS, UH, PERHAPS AS I WRAP UP THIS, UH, DISCUSSION, IF ANYONE WANTS TO EXPRESS ANY INTERESTS, UM, I CAN PASS THAT ON. OKAY. YEAH, I WILL SUBMIT AN APPLICATION I HAD MEANT TO BEFORE AND MISSED THE DEADLINE AND THEN WAS LIKE, WELL, I GUESS NOT. SO SINCE IT'S OPEN I WILL BE APPLYING . OKAY. I'LL PASS THAT FEEDBACK ALONG TO THE PROJECT MANAGERS. THANK YOU. AND THEN, UM, SO THAT PRETTY MUCH CONCLUDES AGAIN, ONE MORE TIME. I'LL SAY A PLUG FOR OUR TRANSIT MODIFICATION WORKSHOP. THAT AGAIN IS GONNA BE TUESDAY, JANUARY 20TH, 6:00 PM HERE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS. AND THAT COMPLETES MY REPORT. THANK YOU JARED. ANY COMMENTS FROM THE COMMITTEE? OKAY, SEEING NONE. OH, THAT PRETTY MUCH WRAPS. THAT'S UP TONIGHT. UM, SO I'M WITH THAT CALLING THIS MEETING ADJOURNED AT SIX 30. LOOK AT THAT HOUR AND A HALF . * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.