* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:03] ALL RIGHT. SO WE WILL BRING TO ORDER [CALL TO ORDER] THIS WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 21ST, 2026 MEETING OF THE PETALUMA TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. AND WE WILL START WITH A ROLL CAR ROLL CALL FROM OUR CITY CLERK'S OFFICE. CHANTEL HERE. OBEYED HERE. KUSON? HERE. VER HERE. SANCHEZ? HERE. HILT. HERE. BERTELLI. THANK YOU. TERRIFIC. UH, AFTER ROLL CALL, [GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT] WE'LL MOVE INTO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. SO DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON ITEMS OF PUBLIC INTEREST THAT ARE WITHIN THIS COMMITTEE, SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION, BUT ARE NOT LISTED ON THE CURRENT AGENDA. NOW, I DO NOT HAVE ANY IN-PERSON COMMENT CARDS. IF ANYONE WANTS TO MAKE A GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU CAN COME TO THE MICROPHONE AND BRING A CARD TO THE CLERK. UM, WHILE I GIVE PEOPLE TIME TO DO THAT, DID WE RECEIVE ANY COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING? NOT PRIOR TO THE MEETING, BUT WE DO HAVE ONE, UM, HERE IN THE AUDIENCE FOR EVE OR RO EVE OR ROURKE. OKAY, TERRIFIC. WELL THEN EVE, PLEASE, UH, LET'S START GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. HELLO. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A MORATORIUM ON THE PRUNING OF STREET TREES BY BOTH THE CITY AND INDEPENDENT ARBORISTS OR BUTCHERS BECAUSE SOME OF THE DOWNTOWN TREES WHERE I WALK ALL THE TIME ARE, ARE SO BADLY PRUNED AND OVER PRUNED AND, UM, THAT WE, THE CITY I THINK NEEDS SOME STANDARDS TO SAVE OUR TREES. UM, THEY'RE BEING KIND OF LIKE BONI AND AROUND THE THEATER SQUARE AND THE ONES IN FRONT OF LANDMARK. YOU GOTTA SEE THOSE. YOU'LL GRAB YOUR HEAD. SO I, I WOULD LIKE TO EXPOUND ON THAT IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS. SO IN GENERAL, PUBLIC COMMENT, IT'S USUALLY NOT A BACK AND FORTH. OH, I'M SORRY. SO YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES AHEAD OF YOUR COMMENT, BUT THEN I'M SURE SOME OF THIS GROUP WILL AT LEAST WEIGH IN BRIEFLY AFTERWARDS. OKAY. I'LL LET YOU WRAP UP HERE. COMMENT. I WILL ALSO BE HAPPY AND AVAILABLE TO TAKE ANYBODY ON A LITTLE WALKING TOUR, 20 MINUTES OR SO AROUND DOWNTOWN, AND JUST POINT OUT SOME TREES THAT DID NOT, NOT NEED TO BE CUT AT ALL, AND ARE LIKE TORTURED FOREVER AND MAYBE, UM, IMPERILED WITH THEIR LIVES. SO I SPEAK FOR THE TREES OF PETALUMA. DO I HAVE ONE MORE MINUTE, 60 SECONDS? IF YOU, I APOLOGIZE. OUR TIME IS OFF. YOU HAVE A MINUTE AND 47 SECONDS. IF YOU GET OFF THE TRAIN IN NOVATO AND WALK UP THE, THE MAIN STREET, YOU WILL BE STUPEFIED AT HOW BEAUTIFUL IT LOOKS WITH ALL THE SYCAMORES THERE. THEY, IT, THAT CITY HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO LIFE. IF YOU GET OFF THE TRAIN IN WINDSOR AND WALK ALONG THE NEW DOWNTOWN, YOU'LL ALSO BE STUPEFIED WITH THE SYCAMORES. THEY'RE JUST LETTING THEM GROW AND BE BEAUTIFUL AND CREATE SHADE. HELLO SHADE, WHICH WE ARE NEEDING MORE AND MORE EVERY YEAR. THANK YOU. WELL, AND WITH THAT, UH, LACKING, ANY OTHER COMMENT CARDS OR ANYONE FROM THE AUDIENCE RUNNING TO THE MICROPHONE? WE CAN CLOSE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. AND [PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION] I'LL JUST SAY BRIEFLY, EVE, YOU'VE GIVEN US REALLY A PERFECT PREAMBLE TO WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE DISCUSSING TODAY AS A PUBLIC HEARING AND MATTER FOR CONSIDERATION. YOU'RE GONNA BE HEARING AN UPDATE FROM URBAN ECOS PETALUMA CONSULTANT WHO'S WORKING ON AN URBAN FORESTRY MANAGEMENT PLAN. UH, AND ACTUALLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ARE, PART OF THE REASON I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE JOINED THIS COMMITTEE WAS WE WERE SEEING PRUNINGS, WE WERE SEEING STREET TREES CUT THAT DIDN'T NEED TO BE. AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S SHOCKING TO A LOT OF PEOPLE. AND THE ANSWER IS, UH, MANY DIFFERENT PROCESSES AT THE CITY LEVEL, INCLUDING AN URBAN FORESTRY MANAGEMENT PLAN AT THE FOUNDATION, BUT THEN AN IMPROVED TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE THAT THE CITY IS ALSO WORKING ON TO HAVE SOME KIND OF ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM DOING THINGS THAT WE DON'T WANT DONE WITH TREES, ESPECIALLY STREET TREES. SO I'D BE HAPPY TO TALK WITH YOU AFTER, AS I'M SURE MANY MEMBERS HERE WILL. BUT LIKE I SAID, THIS IS PERFECT BECAUSE NOW WE'RE GONNA HEAR AN UPDATE FROM OUR URBAN FORESTRY PLAN WORKING GROUP. UH, AND THIS IS GONNA BE COLLA RADEN AND APOLOGIZE, COLLEEN, IF I DIDN'T GET THAT PRONUNCIATION CORRECT, WHO'S GONNA BE TELLING US ABOUT UPDATES FROM THE URBAN FORESTRY PLAN WORKING GROUP, UH, WHICH INFORMS THE URBAN FOREST MANAGEMENT PLAN. SO I WILL TURN IT OVER TO, UH, STAFF AND COLLEEN. THANKS DARREN. AND, UH, THANK YOU FOR THIS INVITATION BACK. I THINK THIS IS, AT LEAST, THIS IS AT LEAST MY THIRD, IF NOT FOURTH TIME IN FRONT OF THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. SO I'M HAPPY TO BE BACK TO KEEP SHARING OUR PROGRESS ON THE DEVELOPMENT. UM, I CAN'T SEE THE AUDIENCE, SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE, UH, A BUNCH OF NEW FACES THAT NEED A BIT MORE FOUNDATION OR SHOULD I JUST DIVE RIGHT IN? [00:05:01] UH, I WOULD SAY JUST DIVE RIGHT IN. ALRIGHT. SO, UM, I AM BACK HERE TODAY TO SHARE, WELL, LET ME START A LITTLE BIT FARTHER BACK. I A LITTLE BIT OF A FOUNDATION FOR THE MOST OF THE PAST YEAR. MY TEAM, WHICH INCLUDES ME, NANCY HUGHES AND DOROTHY BETA. TOGETHER, WE HAVE ABOUT A HUNDRED YEARS OF URBAN FORESTRY EXPERIENCE AT ALL LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT, UH, LOCAL, STATE, AND FEDERAL. UH, WE'VE BEEN RESEARCHERS, WE'VE BEEN PRIVATE CONSULTANTS, WE'VE BEEN, UH, NONPROFIT EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. SO WE RUN THE, THE GAMUT. WE HAVE BEEN USING THAT EXPERIENCE TO DIG INTO THE URBAN FORESTRY SITUATION IN PETALUMA. WE'VE MET WITH PEOPLE, UH, I THINK AT LEAST A DOZEN CITY DEPARTMENTS, UM, WITH DIRECT AND INDIRECT RELATIONSHIPS TO TREES. WE'VE HAD A BUNCH OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH OPPORTUNITIES. WE'VE RUN SURVEYS, WE'VE, WE'VE DUG INTO YOUR ZONING AND MUNICIPAL CODES, YOUR FOUNDATIONAL DOCUMENTS, UH, THINGS LIKE THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN, UM, THE TECHNICAL DOCUMENTS, AND WE PUT ALL OF THAT TOGETHER. AND WHAT I'M HERE TO SHARE WITH YOU TODAY IS OUR FIRST DRAFT OF THE GOALS AND STRATEGIES THAT WE ENVISION FOR PETALUMA. SO I WANNA HEAR YOUR FEEDBACK. UM, I THINK WHAT I'LL DO IS RUN THROUGH THE WHOLE THING AND AT THE END I HAVE A SUMMARY SLIDE THAT SHOWS ALL OF THEM TO CALL YOUR ATTENTION BACK TO ANYTHING THAT YOU, UM, MIGHT HAVE WANTED TO MAKE A NOTE ON. I'M AFRAID IF WE STOP IN THE MIDDLE, WE MIGHT NEVER, THERE'LL BE ONES THAT ARE GONNA BE HARD FOR PEOPLE TO GET PAST. UH, BUT I DEFINITELY WANNA HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY. AND IF YOU DON'T, AREN'T ABLE TO SHARE THAT TODAY. UH, AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION IS A LINK TO A GOOGLE SURVEY, UM, WHICH BASICALLY LAYS OUT EACH ONE OF THOSE GOALS AND STRATEGIES AND SAYS, HEY, THUMBS UP, THUMBS DOWN, OR, I'D LIKE TO TELL YOU SOME MORE AND OFFERS YOU A CHANCE TO LEAVE SOME COMMENTS THERE. SO WE'VE HEARD FROM PEOPLE IN THE WORKING GROUP AND A FEW OTHERS, YOU'RE WELCOME TO SHARE THAT SURVEY BEYOND THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. UH, OBVIOUSLY ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO IS HERE AND WANTS TO WEIGH IN, WE'RE HAPPY TO HEAR FROM THEM. BUT IF YOU HAVE FRIENDS AND FAMILY OR OTHER TREE AFICIONADOS WHO, UM, THERE WON'T BE THE SAME BACKGROUND THAT YOU'RE GONNA GET FROM ME HERE TONIGHT, BUT IT WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO GIMME THEIR OPINION. OR YOU CAN JUST SEND ME AN EMAIL. SO I'M GONNA SHARE MY PRESENTATION. AND THANK YOU ALSO FOR, FOR ALLOWING ME TO BE HERE AS AN DISEMBODIED HEAD, WHICH IS ALWAYS A LITTLE BIT AWKWARD, BUT IS THE BEST OPPORTUNITY, UH, BEST OPTION FOR TODAY. SO YOU SHOULD SEE A BIG OAK TREE AND, UH, THE SLIDE WITH MY NAME AND CONTACT INFORMATION. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SEEING? IT LOOKS GREAT. OKAY. SO I CAN SORT OF SEE IT, UH, I CAN SORT OF SEE IT IN MY, ON YOUR COUNCIL PICTURE THERE. SO, UH, NOW LET'S SEE IF CLICKING FORWARD WORKS PROPERLY. OKAY, SO WHEN YOU, SO AN FOR MY AUDIENCE THERE WHO, WHO MIGHT BE NEW TO THIS, UM, AN URBAN FOREST MANAGEMENT PLAN IS BASICALLY A STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE URBAN FOREST FOR THE NEXT 30 TO 40 YEARS. SO IT HAS ALL OF THE SORT OF HALLMARKS OF A CORPORATE STRATEGIC PLAN OR A NONPROFIT STRATEGIC PLAN. BUT A BIG PART OF IT ARE THESE GOALS AND STRATEGIES AND ACTIONS, AND THEN IMPLEMENTATION PLAN FOR HOW TO BRING ALL OF THAT TOGETHER. BUT JUST BRIEFLY, UM, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE GOALS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BIG PICTURE THING THAT WE WANT TO CREATE, AND THEN THE STRATEGY MIGHT BE THE APPROACH THAT WE WOULD TAKE TO GET TO THAT GOAL. AND THEN THE ACTIONS ARE THE SPECIFIC TASKS. UM, TODAY I'M JUST GONNA SHARE THE GOALS AND THE STRATEGIES BECAUSE THE, THE ACTIONS WOULD MAKE THIS CONVERSATION MUCH, MUCH LONGER. UM, BUT WE'LL THROW SOME IN THERE TO MAKE IT CLEAR WHAT THOSE STRATEGIES REALLY TARGETED AT. UM, BUT WHEN YOU SEE THE DRAFT OF THE UF, THE URBAN FORCE MANAGEMENT PLAN, THE UFMP, UM, WHICH SHOULD BE WITH YOU IN THE MIDDLE OF NEXT MONTH, I WOULD SAY JUST A COUPLE MORE WEEKS, UM, YOU'LL SEE THE FULL PICTURE, THEN THE ACTIONS AS WELL AS THE GOALS AND THE STRATEGIES. SO WE LIKED THE IDEA, HONESTLY, OF JUST FOUR ONE WORD GOALS FOR PETALUMA, AND THOSE ARE MANAGE, PROTECT, GROW, AND ENGAGE. AND I'LL GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THOSE AND TALK ABOUT THE STRATEGIES THAT'S RELATED TO IT AND WHY THAT IS AN OVERARCHING THEME HERE. SO THE FIRST GOAL IS MANAGE. UM, TREES ARE A PIECE OF CITY INFRASTRUCTURE LIKE ANY OTHER ONE, LIKE PARK BENCHES, LIKE TRAFFIC LIGHTS, LIKE ALL OF THE COMPONENTS THAT FALL UNDER THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY. UNLIKE MOST OF THOSE CITY ASSETS, THEY ACTUALLY APPRECIATE OVER TIME INSTEAD OF DEPRECIATING BECAUSE THE BIGGER A TREE GETS, THE MORE BENEFITS IT'S PROVIDING TO US. SO THAT'S AN ADVANTAGE. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THEY DO SORT OF HAVE A DETERIORATION BUILT INTO THEM THAT ANY CITY INFRASTRUCTURE HAS. AND OFTEN NOT VERY MUCH ATTENTION IS GIVEN TO THIS ASPECT OF TREES BECAUSE NOT ONLY ARE THEY A PIECE OF CITY INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT THEY'RE WILD AND THEY'RE IN AFFECTED BY THE ENVIRONMENT. THEY'RE INFECTED BY THEIR OWN GROWTH PATTERNS BY LIVING IN A CITY. SO THEY'RE BOTH MORE VALUABLE BUT HARDER TO PREDICT AND THEREFORE DESERVING OF MORE [00:10:01] MANAGEMENT. WHEREAS IN MOST CITIES, THEY OFTEN GET LESS. THEY'RE THEY OFTEN NOT EVEN MARKED ON A MAP, WHEREAS EVERY STOP SIGN IN PETALUMA IS MARKED ON SOME MAP SOMEWHERE, AND THE PIPES ARE SOMEWHERE IN THE OVER THE POWER LINES. THE TREES DON'T GET AS MUCH ATTENTION AS THEY DESERVE. AND SIMILARLY, IF WE MANAGE THEM, WE CAN AVOID MANY OF THESE PROBLEMS THAT COME, THAT EVOLVE OVER TIME. SO THIS PICTURE IN THE TOP RIGHT IS NOT THE SAME PICTURE AS THE ONE IN THE BOTTOM LEFT, UM, BUT IT'S A TREE THAT WASN'T PROPERLY CARED FOR WHEN IT WAS YOUNG. SO IT DIDN'T GET THE KIND OF STRUCTURAL YOUNG PRUNING THAT WOULD BE VERY INEXPENSIVE, VERY COST EFFECTIVE. AND BECAUSE IT DIDN'T GET THAT TREATMENT EARLY IN ITS LIFE THAT MANAGEMENT, IT GREW IN A WAY THAT CAUSED IT TO FAIL. SO WE THINK CAREFUL MANAGEMENT IS A REALLY IMPORTANT ASPECT FOR PETALUMA TO FOCUS ON, TO IMPROVE AND GROW ITS URBAN FOREST BEFORE IT DOES ANYTHING ELSE. IT SHOULD, BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING ELSE, YOU SHOULD TAKE CARE OF WHAT YOU HAVE RATHER THAN WORRYING ABOUT PLANTING MORE THINGS FOR THE FUTURE. SO THAT WAS WHY WE PUT THIS ONE AS THE FIRST THING TOO. SO UNDER THAT GOAL OF MANAGE STRATEGIES INCLUDE BUILD AN URBAN FORESTRY TEAM. UM, YOUR SPEAKER, YOUR GUEST JUST SAID THAT SHE'S THERE TO SPEAK FOR THE TREES. I KNOW WE ALL SPEAK FOR THE TREES, BUT PETALUMA COULD REALLY USE ONE PERSON WHOSE SOLE JOB IT IS TO SPEAK FOR THE TREES. AND SO OUR FIRST ACTION HERE, I'M THROWING IN AN ACTION. OUR FIRST ACTION UNDER THIS STRATEGY IS TO HIRE A DEDICATED URBAN FORESTER. AND I THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE WHOLE REST OF THE TEAM. YOU CAN HAVE CONTRACTORS, YOU CAN HAVE VOLUNTEERS, YOU CAN HAVE NONPROFIT GROUPS, ALL OF THAT, BUT YOU NEED SOMEBODY AT THE TOP DOING THAT WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TREES ARE BEING CARED FOR PROPERLY. SO NUMBER ONE, BUILD AN URBAN FORESTRY TEAM. NUMBER TWO, UNDERSTAND YOUR URBAN FOREST. SO AS A PRO PART OF THE PROCESS FOR THIS UFMP, WE DID A CANOPY COVER ANALYSIS, WHICH I PRESENTED TO YOU THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE. WE DID AN A, UH, URBAN, UH, EXCUSE ME, MUNICIPAL FORCE RESOURCE ANALYSIS THAT WAS AN AS ASSESSMENT OF THE STRUCTURE AND FUNCTION OF THE CITY'S TREES, WHICH WILL BE GETTING SOON. AND WE DID A RANDOM SAMPLE INVENTORY OF THE STREET TREES TO GET A PICTURE OF WHAT IS OUT THERE, BUT WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE EVERY TREE IS. SO WE THINK THAT THOSE THINGS NEED TO BE FOCUSED ON, THEY NEED TO ACTUALLY BE INCORPORATED INTO WORK PROCESSES AND THAT INVENTORY SHOULD BE COMPLETED. UM, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO FIX IT. NUMBER THREE, THIS IS A, THERE ARE A COUPLE I FEEL LIKE I SHOULD HAVE PUT IN ITALICS OR BOLD BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA BE THE BIG ONES AND THEY'RE GONNA BE, THEY'RE HARD AND VISIONARY. BUT, UM, MOST IMPORTANT, AND THIS WOULD DEFINITELY BE ONE OF THEM, IS FOR THE CITY TO ASSUME RESPONSIBILITY FOR STREET TREES. RIGHT NOW, THERE ARE SO MANY CONFLICTS THAT WOULD BE RESOLVED IF THE CITY TOOK CONTROL OF THOSE TREES. UM, FOR INSTANCE, THE PRUNING CONCERN THAT WAS JUST MENTIONED WOULD BE RESOLVED BECAUSE THE CITY WOULD BE IN CHARGE OF THE PRUNING, UH, PLANTING TREES IN THE PLANTING STRIPS WOULD BE RESOLVED BECAUSE THE CITY TAKES CHARGE OF THEM. YOU REALLY CAN'T SAY THAT THE CITY CAN'T PLANT A TREE THERE. WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO COMPLAIN? YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF IT ANYMORE. UM, THERE WOULD BE EFFICIENCY, THERE WOULD BE REDUCED LIABILITY ISSUES. UM, SO THIS IS A BIG ONE, BUT, BUT I THINK A VERY IMPORTANT ONE. NUMBER FOUR, ESTABLISH A PROACTIVE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM. RIGHT NOW THE CITY WORKS MOSTLY ON AN EMERGENCY BASIS. SO A BAD THING HAPPENS TO A TREE OR A PORT COMES IN ABOUT A TREE, AND THOSE THINGS ARE DEALT WITH. WE'D LIKE TO SEE, UH, REGULAR INSPECTIONS AND THEN AN URBAN FORESTER TO SAY, OKAY, FROM THAT INSPECTION, I SEE THAT THIS MANY TREES NEED TO BE CARED FOR IN AN URGENT WAY. THIS MANY COULD HOLD OFF FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS AND PLAN A PROACTIVE PLAN GOING FORWARD INTO THE FUTURE SO THAT YOU WERE KEEPING THINGS LIKE THIS BIG PICTURE HERE FROM HAPPENING. FIVE INTEGRATE TREE RELATED TASKS UNDER THE URBAN FORESTER. SO I THINK THE, THE SORT OF DRIVING FORCE ON THIS ONE WAS OUR WORK TO UNDERSTAND THE PERMITTING PROCESS TO PLANT, REMOVE PRUNE TREES IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. AND THEN THE UPCOMING VISIONS FOR THE TREE PROTECTION ORDINANCE WOULD EXPAND THAT PERMITTING PROCESS TO COVER TREES ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. SO WHEN WE SAY INTEGRATE RETREAT RELATED TASKS UNDER THE URBAN FORESTER, RIGHT NOW, THAT PERMITTING PROCESS INVOLVES COMMUNITY, UH, THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT OFFICE, THE PLANNING OFFICE, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, THE STREETS, THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. SO TRYING TO PUT ONE PERSON IN CHARGE OF ALL OF THAT TO STREAMLINE IT AND MAKE SURE THAT THE THINGS THAT ARE, THAT NEED TO GET DONE ARE GETTING DONE, UM, WOULD BE HELPFUL I THINK FOR ALL OF THOSE PARTIES INVOLVED. NUMBER SIX, DEVELOP AND ENFORCE TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS AND BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES. SO RIGHT NOW, UM, WE'VE REVIEWED SOME OF THE CONTRACTS THAT THE CITY HAS TO DO TREE RELATED WORK [00:15:01] ON THE, THOSE EMERGENCIES, FOR INSTANCE, OR INSPECTIONS. AND THEY'RE VERY SIMPLE, WHICH IS GREAT IN SOME WAYS, AND YOU HAVE A TEAM OF PEOPLE THAT YOU CONTRACT WITH THAT ARE VERY RELIABLE. BUT GOING FORWARD, YOU WON'T ALWAYS BE LUCKY ENOUGH TO WORK WITH THE SAME PEOPLE THAT YOU KNOW YOU CAN TRUST. SO WE THINK THAT ONE OF THE MANY THING, ONE OF THE, A THING THAT WOULD SOLVE MANY OF THOSE CONCERNS WOULD BE TO HAVE, UM, MORE CLEARLY DEFINED TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS. AND OUR VISION HERE IS YOU HAVE, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, A TREE TECHNICAL MANUAL. IT, IT HAS SOME CHALLENGES WITH IT. ONE IS THAT IT, IT'S ABOUT 25 YEARS OLD NOW. UM, IT'S VERY HEAVY ON SPECIFICATIONS ABOUT DEVELOPMENT AND LESS CLEAR ABOUT THINGS LIKE, HERE'S HOW WE EXPECT YOU TO PLANT A TREE. HERE'S HOW MUCH AND WHAT KIND OF MULCH WE WANT YOU TO APPLY. HERE'S WHEN YOU SHOULD REMOVE THE STAKES. UM, AND SOME OF ITS RECOMMENDATIONS, BECAUSE IT IS NOW GOING ON MORE THAN TWO DECADES OLD, HAVE EVOLVED OVER TIME. SO I THINK ONE OF THE SORT OF CHEAPEST, EASIEST, HEY, WE CAN CHECK OFF THAT BOX ON THE TO-DO LIST WOULD BE FOR YOU, THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WHICH IS, I BELIEVE THIS RESPONSIBILITY IS IN THE ACTUAL CITY CODE TO, UM, REVISE THAT TREE TECHNICAL MANUAL SO THAT IT COVERS ALL OF THE SPECIFICATIONS THAT YOU WOULD THINK WERE IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE PLANTING TREES FOR PEOPLE, PRUNING THEM IN THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING FOR A TREE PERMIT AND NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT KIND OF WORK IS GOING TO BE DONE FOR PG AND E FOR ALL OF THESE. AND THEN YOU CAN POINT PEOPLE TO THAT TREE TECHNICAL MANUAL AND THOSE TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS. AND, UM, THE WORK WILL BE CONSISTENTLY DONE AND YOU'LL AT LEAST HAVE SOMETHING TO POINT TO AND SAY, HEY, YOU DIDN'T DO WHAT WE SAID. WE WERE VERY CLEAR ABOUT THIS AND WE DIDN'T GET WHAT WE WANTED. SO, UM, I GUESS I'M, I'M SORT OF DUMPING THAT IN YOUR LAP RIGHT NOW, BUT WE'LL COME BACK TO THAT ONE. I'M SURE YOU'D BE INTERESTED IN THAT ONE. OKAY, HERE'S ANOTHER BIG BROAD ONE THAT'S GONNA NEED A LOT MORE FLESHING OUT IS SECURE STABLE FUNDING. I'M JUST GONNA SKIP OVER THAT FOR NOW BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S, IT'S TOO BIG FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING. UH, PLAN FOR URBAN WOOD USE. SO THIS IS BOTH REQUIRED BY THE GRANT THAT'S PAYING FOR THIS PROJECT. AND ALSO FROM A, UH, I UNDERSTAND PETALUMA HAS A COMMITMENT TO, UM, GREENHOUSE GAS NEUTRALITY. YOU HAVE A CLIMATE ACTION PLAN, AND ONE OF THE PRACTICAL SPECIFIC THINGS THAT'S MENTIONED IN THAT PLANT ARE WE SHOULD PLANT MORE TREES. TREES, REMOVE GREENHOUSE GASES FROM THE ATMOSPHERE AND LOCK IT INTO THE WOOD, UM, AND LOCK IT INTO THE WOOD. BUT, SO I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF PLANTING TREES TO REDUCE GREENHOUSE GASES, BUT WHEN YOU CUT DOWN THAT TREE AND IT STARTS TO DECAY, IT RETURNS THOSE GREENHOUSE GASES TO THE ATMOSPHERE. SO IF WE CAN TAKE THOSE TREES AND ONCE WE'VE CUT THEM DOWN BECAUSE FOR WHATEVER REASON WE NEEDED TO, WE CAN TURN THEM INTO WOOD PRODUCTS, THEN THAT THOSE GREENHOUSE GASES REMAIN LOCKED INSIDE OF THAT WOOD AND THEY AREN'T RETURNED TO THE ATMOSPHERE. AND WE'VE SORT OF CLOSED THE SYSTEM DOWN SOME MORE. UM, ALSO THEY, TREES COULD BE CHIPPED UP FOR MULCH, WHICH CAUSES THEM TO DECAY FASTER, BUT IF YOU'RE USING THAT MULCH AS OPPOSED TO MULCH THAT YOU WOULD'VE GONE OUT AND BOUGHT YOU IT, IT'S A COMPLICATED SCENARIO, BUT WE'D LIKE TO SEE A PLAN FOR URBAN WOOD USE TO STRENGTHEN THAT COMPONENT OF THE CLIMATE CHANGE PLAN. AND THEN FINALLY, UNDER MANAGE IS TRACK PROGRESS. WE CAN'T KNOW IF WE ARE DOING THINGS BETTER IF WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING. SO ONCE YOU UNDERSTAND YOUR URBAN FOREST, WE'D LIKE TO DEVELOP A PLAN TO TRACK PROGRESS AND THAT, AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THOSE METRICS SHOULD BE, TREES PLANTED VERSUS REMOVED, UH, CHANGES IN CANOPY COVER PERMITS PROCESSED IN A TIMELY FASHION, UM, JUST MAKING SURE THAT PAYING ATTENTION OVER TIME TO WHETHER WE'RE ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISHING THE GOALS THAT WE'VE SET. SO THAT'S MANAGE GOAL NUMBER TWO IS PROTECT. SO, UM, DURING OUR CANOPY COVER ANALYSIS, WE SAW THAT THE MOST LIKELY PLACES WHERE TREES WERE LOST, THIS IS I GUESS SORT OF OBVIOUS, IS TO DEVELOPMENT. SO IN SOME CASES, THOSE WERE BIG CITY MANAGED PROJECTS LIKE THE EXPANSION OF 1 0 1, AND IN SOME CASES THEY WERE, UH, DENSIFICATION. SO WE SAW APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT WHERE THE LOT WAS BASICALLY HALF FILLED WITH BUILDINGS, AND THEN THAT WAS EXPANDED TO BE COMPLETELY FILLED WITH BUILDINGS. UM, AND THEN WE SAW SOME CHANGES IN USE WHERE, UH, STRUCTURES NEEDED MORE PARKING, AND SO TREES WERE LOST FOR THAT. SO THIS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FROM MANAGE, BUT, UM, PROTECT AS A GOAL IN OUR MINDS FOR, AGAIN, SORT OF KEEPING TRACK OF KEEPING HOLD OF WHAT WE HAVE AS THE MOST VALUABLE THING TO DO EVEN BEFORE WE GET TO, TO GROWING MORE TREES. SO THE STRATEGIES UNDER THIS [00:20:01] ARE PREVENT AVOIDABLE TREE LOSS AND DAMAGE ASSOCIATED WITH DEVELOPMENT. SO A AGAIN, THE PROCESS OF A DEVELOPER COMING IN AND SAYING, I WANNA DO SOMETHING WITH THIS PIECE OF LAND, HAS A LOT OF STEPS ALONG THE WAY FROM EARLY DESIGNS TO PLANNING APPROVAL TO CONSTRUCTION TO POST CONSTRUCTION. AND SO ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT JOBS WE THINK FOR THAT URBAN FORESTER THAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND IS TO MAKE SURE THAT TREES ARE BEING SUPPORTED AND SPOKEN FOR IT EVERY STEP ALONG THE WAY OF THAT PROCESS. UM, AND I THINK, AGAIN, THE CODIFICATION OF THAT SHOULD COME IN THE TREE TECHNICAL MANUAL. SO FOR INSTANCE, IT'S NOT UNUSUAL IN A CONSTRUCTION DRAWING, AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT PETALUMA SPECIFICALLY, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE WORLD AT LARGE. IT'S NOT UNUSUAL FOR A CONSTRUCTION DRAWING TO IDENTIFY THE TREES THAT WILL BE KEPT ON SITE, BUT TO DRAW THEM AS A SMALL CIRCLE THAT IN NO WAY REPRESENTS THE ACTUAL SIZE OF THE TREE CROWN. SO ON THIS PICTURE THAT'S ON THE RIGHT, IN THIS PROCESS OF CONSTRUCTION, SOMEBODY SAID, OH, WE'RE GONNA SAVE THIS BEAUTIFUL LIVE OAK TREE. WE WON'T CUT IT DOWN, WE PROMISE IT'S GONNA MAKE OUR NEW DEVELOPMENT GORGEOUS. AND THEN THEY USE IT AS A DUMPING GROUND FOR CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS. AND THE SOIL GETS COMPACTED AND THE TRUNK BARK GETS DAMAGED. AND TREE, YOU KNOW, BIG CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT KNOCKS OFF BRANCHES. SO MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF LITTLE FINE DETAILS IN THERE, MAKING SURE THAT TREES ARE SHOWN PROPERLY ON THE PLAN. ARE THEY IDENTIFIED CORRECTLY? ARE THEY, UM, IS THE PLAN TO PROTECT THEM FROM CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT, SUFFICIENT? ALL OF THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. NUMBER TWO, ENFORCED EXISTING TREE PROTECTION POLICIES CONSISTENTLY AND EFFECTIVELY. SO THIS IS, UM, A LITTLE MORE SUBTLE. PETALUMA HAS A FAIR NUMBER OF THINGS ON THE BOOKS IN THE CODE TO PROTECT TREES, BUT I'M HONESTLY NOT SURE THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE. AND IT SEEMS THAT FOLLOW UP IS NOT OFTEN, IT DOES NOT OFTEN HAPPEN. THERE JUST ISN'T ENOUGH MANPOWER TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN IN THE PLACES THAT IT SHOULD. SO I, I FEEL SORT OF PHILOSOPHICALLY THAT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IF YOU HAVE LAWS ON THE BOOK THAT YOU SHOULD FORCE THEM CONSISTENTLY. UM, AND THAT'S, SO THAT'S ONE OF OUR, ONE OF OUR STRATEGIES HERE. NUMBER THREE, THIS RELATES BACK TO WHAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT, MAINTAIN UPTODATE TREE RELATED POLICY STANDARDS AND CODES. SO ONE OF THOSE IN, IN OUR VISION IS THE TREE TECHNICAL MANUAL. UM, ONE OF THE THINGS WE LIKE ABOUT THAT IS THAT IT, IT COULD BE EDITED AND ADAPTED WITHOUT COMPLICATED CHANGES TO THE CITY CODE, RIGHT? SO IF WE HOUSE ALL OF THOSE, ALL OF THOSE SPECIFICATIONS IN ONE DOCUMENT, WE UPDATE THAT DOCUMENT AND IT SPILLS OUT TO EVERYTHING ELSE. UM, AS WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, THERE IS A TREE PROTECTION ORDINANCE IN THE WORKS. UM, THERE IS THE GENERAL PLAN. AND SO SORT OF HAVING SOMEBODY, THE TREE WITH URBAN FORESTER TO MAKE SURE ALL ALONG THE WAY THAT THOSE THINGS ARE AS UP TO DATE AS THEY COULD BE, THAT THEY STILL APPROPRIATE FOR PETALUMA, UM, IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO PROTECTING THE TREES. NUMBER FOUR, ANTICIPATE AND MANAGE THREATS, CONFLICTS AND CLIMATE RELATED RISKS. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF THREATS, CONFLICTS, AND CLIMATE RELATED RISKS COMING OUR WAY IN THE NEXT DECADES. UM, WE HAVE FIRE, WE HAVE SORT OF, IT SEEMS LIKE AN ENDLESS STREAM OF NEW INTRODUCED PESTS THAT ATTACK ONE SPECIES AND THEN ANOTHER SPECIES AND THEN ANOTHER SPECIES. WE HAVE YEARS OF DROUGHT AND THEN WE HAVE THE CATASTROPHIC RAIN. UM, SO TRYING TO KEEP TABS ON ALL OF THOSE THINGS IS AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF THIS PUZZLE. AND SOMETIMES, INTERESTINGLY, THE CONFLICTS CONFLICT WITH EACH OTHER. SO WE'VE SEEN THE TRAGEDIES THAT WILDFIRES CAN BRING TO URBAN AREAS BECAUSE OF, AS, AS FIRES MOVE THROUGH URBAN AREAS LIKE WE SAW LAST YEAR IN LA AND WE SAW NEARBY IN SANTA ROSA RECENTLY. SO WE HAVE THAT DANGER. AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE REGULATIONS COMING DOWN FROM THE STATE, THE COUNTY LOCAL LEVELS ABOUT HOW WE PROTECT OURSELVES BETTER FROM WILDFIRES. AND SOMETIMES THERE'S A CONFLICT BETWEEN THOSE TWO THINGS, RIGHT? SOME PEOPLE WOULD SAY THAT THE BEST WAY TO PROTECT YOURSELF FROM FIRE IS TO REMOVE ALL OF THE VEGETATION WITHIN A HUNDRED FEET OF YOUR HOUSE OR 20 FEET OF YOUR HOUSE OR, OR WHATEVER. SO MAKING SURE THAT WHEN THOSE PROCESSES START TO HAPPEN, THAT SOMEBODY'S THERE TO SPEAK FOR THE TREES AND SAY, HEY, WAIT A MINUTE. FIRST OF ALL, ARE TREES IN FACT THE PROBLEM? IF THEY ARE, WHAT IS THE BALANCE BETWEEN THESE TWO DANGERS, THE DANGER OF WILDFIRE, WHICH IS AWFUL AND IMPORTANT, AND THE DANGER OF LIVING IN A WORLD THAT'S DENUDED OF, OF LIFE AND TREES. SO THIS IS GONNA BE AN IMPORTANT ONE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO BALANCE ALL OF [00:25:01] THOSE ASPECTS. AND AGAIN, SOMEONE NEEDS TO SPEAK FOR THE TREES. SO NOW WE GET SORT OF TO THE MORE FUN THINGS, WHICH IS GROW. IT'S FUN IN THE GENERAL SENSE THAT IT'S, IT, EVERYBODY LIKES PLANTING TREES. UM, BUT THIS ONE WAS A LITTLE BIT TRICKY BECAUSE WE'VE SAT DOWN AND WE'VE TALKED WITH YOU AND I'VE TALKED WITH THE WORKING GROUP ABOUT VISIONS FOR A CANOPY, UM, CANOPY COVER GOAL. AND WE HAD BIG NUMBERS AND BIG EXCITING, AMBITIOUS DREAMS. AND WHEN WE DID THE CALCULATIONS, IT SEEMED THAT THOSE AMBITIOUS DREAMS WERE PERHAPS NOT, NOT JUST NOT FEASIBLE, BUT NOT, NOT JUST NOT PRACTICAL, BUT ALSO NOT FEASIBLE. SO I'M GONNA THROW SOME IDEAS OUT HERE IN THE NEXT THREE STRATEGIES AND YOU TELL, AND I'M READY WHEN WE'RE DONE FOR YOU TO TELL ME HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THEM. SO NUMBER ONE, EXPAND THE STREET TREE NUMBERS BY 50%. SO OUR, OUR RANDOM STREET TREE INVENTORY SHOWED US THAT THERE WERE ABOUT 12,000 STREET TREES AND ROOM FOR ABOUT, OOF, NOW I'M BLANKING, I THINK ABOUT 10,000 MORE. SO WE TOOK SORT OF A CONSERVATIVE APPROACH AND SAID, WHAT IF WE INCREASE THAT BY 6,000? AND WHAT IF WE DID IT IN A COMFORTABLE WAY WHERE WE PLANTED 250 NET TREES PER YEAR? AND SO NET'S IMPORTANT THERE BECAUSE YOU TAKE OUT TREES AND THEN YOU PLANT TREES, AND IF YOU DON'T PLANT MORE THAN YOU TOOK OUT, THEN YOU'D ACTUALLY HAVE ANY INCREASE. SO, UM, A NET GAIN OF 250 STREET TREES PER YEAR. THEN SAME THING IN PARKS AND OPEN SPACES. NOW I KNOW A LOT OF THE PARKS, SORT OF THE, THE, THE EASY SPOTS TO PLANT TREES HAVE BEEN TAKEN, BUT YOU DO HAVE A LOT OF OPEN SPACE AVAILABLE. A LOT OF IT LOOKS LIKE IT COULD USE SOME, UM, THAT IT COULD SUPPORT MORE TREES WITHOUT LOSING ITS CHARACTER AS A OAK WOODLAND. AND THEN ENCOURAGE PRIVATE PROPERTY PLANTING AND STEWARDSHIP WITH THE GOAL OF PLANTING 500 TREES ON PRIVATE PROPERTY A YEAR. SO OF COURSE, MOST OF THE PROPERTY IN PETALUMA IS IN THE HANDS OF PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS AND BUSINESSES. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE AN INCREASE IN THE URBAN FOREST, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO HAPPEN ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, UM, TO MAKE, IN ORDER TO MAKE OUR VISION COME TRUE. IF YOU DID THOSE THINGS AND YOU DID THEM FOR A WHILE, UH, IT WOULD GROW THE CANOPY FROM ABOUT 14.5% TO ABOUT 7%, WHICH IS A REAL, WHICH IS A, AN INCREASE OF WHAT YOU COULD EITHER SAY TWO POINT A HALF PERCENT OR, UH, SOMETHING LIKE 20 ISH PERCENT. IF YOU WERE THINKING ABOUT THE RELATIVE, THE RELATIVE INCREASE, THE ABSOLUTE INCREASE WOULD BE ABOUT 2.5%. WHEN WE'RE GROWING THE URBAN FOREST, UM, IT SEEMS WORTHWHILE TO PRIORITIZE PLANTING WHERE THE BENEFITS ARE NEEDED THE MOST. SO ONE ASPECT OF THAT CANOPY ANALYSIS WE TALKED ABOUT THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE WAS AN ASSESSMENT OF IT WAS BY CENSUS BLOCK. UM, WHERE WHERE IS THE LOWEST CANOPY? WHERE IS THE GREATEST URBAN HEAT ISLAND IMPACT? WHERE IS THE PEOPLE WITH THE LOWEST INCOME? WHERE ARE PEOPLE STRUGGLING WITH HEALTH CONCERNS THE MOST? AND MADE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FOR WHERE PLANTINGS COULD BE TARGETED. SO WE WILL MAKE THAT ALL AVAILABLE AS A PART OF THE UFMP AS WELL, UM, WITH A GOAL OF FOCUSING ON THOSE AREAS FIRST. WE ARE LOVE THE WORK THAT RELIEF PETALUMA IS DOING. THINK THAT IT'S VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE CITY'S GOALS AND, UM, THAT THEY'RE DOING GREAT WORK OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY. AND SO WE WOULD RECOMMEND CONTINUING TO WORK WITH THEM TO PLANT TREES, BOTH IN PRIVATE PUBLIC AREAS AND ALSO THEIR WORK, CONTINUING THEIR WORK WITH OUTREACH TO, TO PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS AND BUSINESSES. UM, STREAMLINE THE PROCESS FOR PLANTING TREES ON PUBLIC PROPERTY. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ACTUALLY HEARD FROM RELIEF AND IN OTHER SITUATIONS, UM, IN PETALUMA, IF RELIEF PETALUMA HAS A GRANT TO PLANT 200 TREES AND THEY WANT TO PLANT 30 OF THEM IN A PARK, THEY COME TO SEE YOU AND THEY GO TO SEE THE PLANNING COMM, THE PARKS COMMISSION, AND THEY WORK WITH THE PARKS SUPERINTENDENT AND THEY DO OUTREACH WITH THE PUBLIC, PUBLIC MEETINGS, SIGNING, BOARDING, DOOR KNOCKING, UM, AND THEN ADJUST THE PLANS AND THEN COME BACK AND ADJUST THE PLANTS SOME MORE AND THEN SOME TREES GET PLANTED. AND I JUST WANNA SAY THAT THAT IS NOT THE PROCESS IN MOST PLACES. IN MOST PLACES, IF THE PARKS DIRECTOR WANTS TO PLANT TREES IN A PARK, UH, HE GETS A DESIGN AND HE DIGS SOME HOLES AND PUTS SOME TREES IN A PARK. SO I LOVE THE INTERACTIVE NATURE OF THIS, BUT IF YOU WANT TO PLANT A LOT MORE TREES AND YOU WANT TO SEQUESTER A LOT MORE GREENHOUSE GASES AND YOU WANT MORE SHADE, AND YOU WANT IMPROVED HEALTH [00:30:01] BENEFITS, THEN IT WOULD BE GOOD IF THESE PROCESSES WERE EASIER. AND SOME OF THAT WORK SORT OF GOT DONE AT A HIGHER LEVEL. THOSE DECISIONS GOT MADE IN MORE, IN MORE GENERAL SENSE SO THAT THE PROCESS COULD HAPPEN MORE QUICKLY. UH, SIMILARLY, IF YOU WANNA PLANT A TREE IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE, YOU TECHNICALLY NEED TWO PERMITS, BOTH OF WHICH TOGETHER COST HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS. UM, AND A AGAIN, A LONG COMPLICATED PROCESS. SO TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THAT COULD BE HANDLED MORE EFFICIENTLY WOULD, WOULD GO A LONG WAY TOWARDS GROWING THESE TREE NUMBERS. UM, THIS ONE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE GOT BOLDED BECAUSE I THINK IT'S GONNA BE IMPORTANT AND, AND MAYBE A LITTLE BIT CHALLENGING. SO FOSTER A DIVERSE, MULTI-AGED URBAN FOREST THAT CAN ADAPT AND THRIVE FOR GENERATIONS. SO WE HAVE HEARD FROM VOICES IN PETALUMA OF THAT A GREAT VALUE IS PLACED ON PLANTING NATIVE SPECIES. THE CHALLENGE THERE, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, I BELIEVE, IS THAT THERE ARE VERY FEW NATIVE SPECIES AVAILABLE IN PETALUMA. MOST CALIFORNIA CITIES ONLY HAVE HALF A DOZEN TO 10 NATIVE SPECIES TO SELECT FROM. AND WE TALKED BACK IN THE PROTECT GOAL ABOUT PESTS AND CLIMATE THREATS THAT ARE APPROACHING. AND ONE OF THE CHALLENGES OF HAVING A URBAN FOREST THAT'S HEAVILY NATIVE IS THAT ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE ARE VERY FEW SPECIES AVAILABLE TO YOU, IS THAT THOSE THREATS, THE CLIMATE THREATS AND THE PEST THREATS ARE INTENSIFIED BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE A BIG DIVERSITY TO ABSORB THEM. SO FOR INSTANCE, LURKING ON OUR HORIZON IS THE MEDITERRANEAN SHOT HOLE BOAR, WHICH ATTACKS OAK TREES. AND IT'S CURRENTLY THE CASE THAT MORE THAN 30%, 33% OF THE TREES IN THE PARKS ARE OAK TREES NOW. SO IF THAT SHOT HOLE BOAR REARS ITS UGLY HEAD IN A WAY THAT IT MIGHT AND IT HASN'T RELATED ONES HAVE IN OTHER PLACES, IT COULD EASILY WIPE OUT A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE URBAN FOREST. SO OUR PERSPECTIVE IS THAT SPECIES DIVERSITY IN URBAN SETTINGS, NOT NECESSARILY, WELL, SPECIFICALLY NOT IN OPEN SPACE AREAS OR NATURALIZED AREAS OR LONG STREAM BANKS, BUT IN URBAN URBANIZED AREAS, PARKS, STREETS, A DIVERSE, A RICH SPECIES, DIVERSE URBAN FOREST IS YOUR BEST BET. NUMBER EIGHT, INCORPORATE TREES INTO ALL ASPECTS OF CITY PLANNING. SO WE KNOW A LOT OF THINGS ARE GOING IN ON A LOT OF PLACES. THERE ARE SAFE STREETS, THERE ARE SHADY STREETS, THERE ARE VISIONS FOR BIKE PATHS, THERE ARE RETENTION PONDS, UM, AND TREES HAVE A PLACE IN ALMOST ALL OF THESE AREAS. SO WE'RE HOPING THAT THE DAWN OF AN URBAN FORESTER WILL BRING A VOICE TO SAY, HOLD ON JUST A MINUTE, BEFORE WE PUT IN THAT RETENTION POND, IS THERE A PLACE IN THAT AREA WHERE WE CAN PLANT SOME TREES? OR WAIT A MINUTE, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GOING TO PUT IN SOME CURB CUTS AND BULB OUTS ON THIS STREET TO SLOW DOWN TRAFFIC. IS THERE A ROOM IN ONE OF THOSE BULB OUTS FOR A TREE? UM, SO TRYING TO FIND NEW AND INTERESTING PLACES TO PLANT TREES BEYOND WHAT WE'VE ALWAYS DONE BEFORE. AND FINALLY ENGAGE. THIS IS A QUICK ONE, UM, MOSTLY ABOUT OUTREACH TO THE COMMUNITY AND MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. SO, AND MORE TASKS FOR THIS URBAN FORESTER. DEVELOP EDUCATION AND STEWARDSHIP PROGRAMS TO SHARE INFORMATION. THIS IS A GOOD WAY TO GET THE WORD OUT ABOUT THINGS LIKE FIRE SAFETY, UM, ABOUT PEST MANAGEMENT, ABOUT WATERING TREES IN A DROUGHT. UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S SORT OF LOOMING ON THE HORIZON FOR PETALUMA AND ALL CITIES IN CALIFORNIA ARE THESE NEW WATER CONSERVATION LAWS THAT SAY YOU CAN'T WATER WHAT THEY CALL NON-FUNCTIONAL TURF. SO YOU CAN'T JUST WATER LAWNS THAT ARE PRETTY, UM, THEY HAVE TO SERVE AN ACTUAL PURPOSE, AND IF THEY DON'T, YOU HAVE TO STOP WATERING IT AND PUT IN SOMETHING ELSE THERE. WELL, WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE THREATS FOR TREES IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES. SO, YOU KNOW, HERE'S A CHANCE TO ENGAGE WITH THE PUBLIC AND HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND HOAS, FOR INSTANCE. SO THIS WILL, I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WILL HIT HOAS PRETTY HARD. THEY'VE GOT THIS PUBLIC OPEN SPACE, THIS SHARED OPEN SPACE, UM, HELPING THEM TO KEEP THOSE TREES ALIVE IN THE FACE OF THESE BIG CHANGES IN IRRIGATION THAT ARE COMING UP FOR US. NUMBER TWO, INVOLVE RESIDENTS IN PLANTING, MONITORING AND STEWARDSHIP PROGRAMS. SO AGAIN, GETTING PEOPLE INVOLVED SO THAT THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO EXPRESS THEIR CONCERN AND THEIR CARE AND THEIR LOVE FOR THE URBAN FOREST. PARTNER WITH COMMUNITY GROUPS. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT RELIEF, BUT THERE ARE ACTUALLY MANY COMMUNITY GROUPS IN PETALUMA DOING A LOT OF GREAT WORK. DAILY ACTS, UM, [00:35:02] I'M BLANKING ON THE, THE WATER, THE WATER RELATED ONE, THE BLUE. ANYWAY. AND THEN FINALLY WE HEARD A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT PG E SORT OF RUNNING ROUGH SHOT OVER THE TREES OF PETALUMA IN PLACES THAT AREN'T EVEN VERY CLEARLY RELATED TO THEIR WORK. SO A GREAT COMPONENT FOR THE URBAN FORESTER WOULD BE TO STRENGTHEN THOSE RELATIONSHIPS WITH PG E SO THAT WHEN THEY DO NEED TO COME IN AND DO THIS KIND OF UTILITY RELATED CLEARANCE, UM, WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT HAPPENS IN THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY AND THE MOST, AND THE WAY THAT THAT'S MOST CAREFUL WITH THE TREES. SO THAT IS BASICALLY THE, THE GOALS AND STRATEGIES WITH A BUNCH OF ACTIONS THROWN IN THERE JUST TO KEEP THINGS, UM, YOU KNOW, TARGETED AND ACTUALLY LIKE THE REAL, THE REAL WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. THIS IS A SUMMARY SLIDE THAT HAS ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT. SO, UM, AND THEN ON THE NEXT SLIDE WHEN WE'RE DONE, I'LL COME BACK AND THERE'LL BE, WELL YOU WOULDN'T WANNA WRITE DOWN THIS LINK, BUT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO CLICK ON THAT LINK IN THE PDF THAT'S A PART OF THE, OF THE AGENDA MATERIALS HERE. OR AGAIN, YOU CAN JUST SEND ME AN EMAIL, UH, WHICH IS ALSO ON THE NEXT SLIDE. AND I WILL SHARE THE LINK WITH YOU FOR THAT SURVEY. SHARE IT WIDELY AS WIDELY AS YOU'D LIKE. SO NOW HIT ME WITH YOUR COMMENTS AND YOUR QUESTIONS, WHATEVER YOU'VE GOT FOR ME. WELL, THANK YOU COLLEEN, SO MUCH FOR THAT PRESENTATION. I KNOW THERE'S A LOT THERE TO THINK ABOUT. I KNOW SOME OF THESE TOPICS HAVE BEEN REALLY POINTS OF PASSION FOR EVERYBODY UP ON THE STAGE. UM, SO I WANT TO MOVE INTO ALLOWING FOLKS TO HAVE QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS BEFORE WE DIG INTO IT, THOUGH. I WAS REMISS AND SKIPPED APPROVAL OF MINUTES. OKAY, DO IT AFTER. THANK YOU. NEVERMIND. WE'LL GO STRAIGHT INTO QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS AND IT JUST TO GIVE EVERYONE A SHOT TO COMMENT. I'M GONNA START ON MY LEFT WITH KEITH AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN MOVE THROUGH. WE DO HAVE A CUTOFF OF 5:00 PM SO IF WE CAN BE MINDFUL AND TRY TO KEEP IT TO LIKE FIVE-ISH MINUTES A PERSON TO START WITH AND THEN COME BACK AROUND. AND THEN IF WE START GOING DOWN THE LINE HERE AND FOLKS WANNA PASS AND WAIT TO LET OTHERS SPEAK FIRST, JUST SAY THAT AND WE'LL KIND OF KEEP, KEEP MARCHING THROUGH. UM, BUT KEITH, WITH ALL THIS INFORMATION LAID BEFORE US, PLEASE GIVE US SOME, UH, QUESTIONS AND AND COMMENTS. IT'S A LOT TO TAKE IN. UM, I'LL GIVE YOU THAT. I THINK IT, UM, I THINK WHAT I REALLY LIKED ABOUT IT'S VERY EXCITING AT THIS ASPIRATIONAL STAGE AND UM, AND IT INTRODUCED SOME POSSIBLE RELATED ACTION POINTS. UM, WHAT I'M MOST INTERESTED IN, AND A QUESTION FOR EVERYONE WHO HAS MORE EXPERIENCE ON THIS GROUP THAN I DO, AS WELL AS FOR A PERSON ONLINE, THERE IS HOW AND WHEN DO WE DIVE INTO THE OPERATIONAL STAGE? 'CAUSE IT SEEMS THAT THAT'S GONNA, THAT'S GONNA DEFINE SOME OF THESE RELATED ACTIONS FOR ME A LITTLE BIT MORE ROBUSTLY THAN THEY ARE RIGHT NOW. AS WELL AS HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE TAKE THESE ASPIRATIONAL GOALS AND INTRODUCE THEM INTO SOME CONCRETE THINGS WITH, YOU KNOW, SECURE FUNDING IS GONNA BE FRONT AND CENTER. UM, YOU KNOW, WHO, WHO DOES THE, WHO DOES THIS URBAN FORESTER REPORT TO? YOU KNOW, IS THAT PUBLIC WORKS? IS IT SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE ORGANIZATION? SO THAT, THAT MEANS A, TO ME IT MEANS A BIG DIFFERENCE ON HOW THEY APPROACH THEIR POSITION AND STUFF LIKE THAT. BUT I I, I REALLY LIKE THAT. AND THE ONLY OTHER THING I'LL SAY RIGHT NOW AND THEN I CAN PASS ALONG IS THERE ARE SOME REALLY AGGRESSIVE GROWTH TARGETS I THINK ASSOCIATED WITH THIS. UM, AND I'D LIKE TO SEE THOSE REMAIN. 'CAUSE I'D RATHER KEEP IT ASPIRATIONAL AT THAT POINT THEN I DON'T WANT REALISM TO SEEP IN YET. AND, AND COLLEEN, I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE A LOT OF PEOPLE'S QUESTIONS IN TERMS OF IMPLEMENTATION. IS THERE, IS THERE AN ORDER OF OPERATIONS OR HOW CAN WE, ONCE WE HAVE A PLAN AND YOU KNOW, WE'VE FINISHED WORKING WITH YOU FOR THE, FOR DEVELOPING OUR URBAN FORESTRY PLAN, WHAT'S THE NEXT STEPS? HOW DO WE CARRY IT FORWARD AND MAKE SOME OF THIS REAL IF THERE ARE KIND OF GUIDING PRINCIPLES OR MARCHING ORDERS, BASICALLY FOR US AS A COMMITTEE OR US AS INDIVIDUALS? DARREN, AM I ALLOWED TO, I I NEVER KNOW HOW THESE THINGS ARE SUPPOSED TO WORK. AM I ALLOWED TO ANSWER QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW OR, UM, YEAH, I I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GONNA HAVE THAT QUESTION, BUT HERE WHY DON'T, WHY DON'T WE BOOKMARK THAT AND WE'LL KEEP GOING DOWN THE LINE HERE. UM, JUST, WELL, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER IT. I JUST WASN'T SURE IF HOW THE, IF THIS IS, YOU KNOW, HOW THESE RULES WORK. IF I, IF YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO MAKE COMMENTS AND, BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THE QUESTION. GO DOWN THE LINE, GO DOWN THE LINE AND THEN LET HER ANSWER. YEAH. YEAH, I THINK SO. OKAY. OKAY. ALRIGHT, STEPHANIE, WELL THEN WHY DON'T YOU KICK US OFF THEN WITH YOUR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS. I, I AM GOING TO PASS, BECAUSE THE REALISM PART OF IT SEEMS LIKE THAT MIGHT DRAG EVERYTHING DOWN. I MEAN, IT'S, THERE'S SO MANY QUESTIONS I HAVE ABOUT THAT AND SO I THINK IT'S BEST TO GET EVERYBODY'S INPUT AND THEN KIND OF DIG IN AT SOME POINT ABOUT HOW THIS IS SUPPOSED TO WORK. 'CAUSE [00:40:01] I KEEP SEEING HUGE MONEY PROBLEMS . SO ANYWAY, I, I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GREAT STARTING POINT, BUT I THINK I'M GONNA PASS ON ALL THE, THE DE THE DETAILED QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE AT THIS POINT. OKAY, GREAT. YEAH, SO MAYBE THIS CAN BE MORE BIG PIC BIG PICTURE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. UH, BILL. OH, THANK YOU AND THANKS KLEEN. UM, I THINK I'M STILL REALLY DEVELOPING MY THOUGHTS HERE, BUT JUST INITIALLY REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT YOU'VE TAKEN A LOT OF, UH, A LOT OF THE, UH, DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS AND, AND REALLY FLESHED IT OUT AND YOUR GOALS AND STRATEGIES. UM, I THINK THE FOUR GOALS OF MANAGING, PROTECT, GROW, AND ENGAGE ARE, UH, SOLID AND, UM, IN AGREEMENT WITH THOSE. AND I, UH, THE STRATEGIES THEMSELVES, UM, I FEEL ARE, UM, ALSO, UM, UH, UH, UH, I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH FOR THE MOST PART. I, I GUESS THAT, UH, THE, THE BIG ONE FOR ME IS LIKE BUILDING AN URBAN FORESTRY TEAM AND HAVING AN URBAN FORESTER ON STAFF AND, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE FUNDING FOR THAT, THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, UM, REALLY DEFINE A LOT OF HOW SUCCESSFUL I THINK THAT, UH, THIS 30 YEAR PLAN, UM, UH, WILL PLAY OUT. SO, LET'S SEE. UM, I, ON THE GROWTH SIDE, I, I SORT OF, I, I FEEL LIKE THAT THE 250 STREET TREES PER YEAR IS, UH, SEEMS MANAGEABLE, SEEMS DOABLE. UH, I I I DO STILL FEEL STRONGLY THAT, YOU KNOW, REALLY HAVING A, A HIGH TARGET FOR US TO AIM HIGH TOWARDS A, WHATEVER THAT, YOU KNOW, 25, 30% CANOPY COVERAGE WOULD, WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE THAT AS SORT OF LIKE, YEAH, WE DON'T, WE DON'T NECESSARILY, THIS IS NOT GONNA BE AN OVERNIGHT . UM, UH, BUT, UM, BUT YOU KNOW, JUST A TWO AND A HALF PERCENT INCREASE, IS THAT KIND OF WHAT YOU HAD MENTIONED EARLIER IN THE PRESENTATION, THAT TO FEEL, DOESN'T FEEL AS MAYBE AS BOLD OF, OF A, A GOAL AS I'D LIKE TO SEE. UM, BUT I DO REALLY LIKE THAT THE STREET TREES ARE ADDRESSED HERE AND THAT THERE IS A, YOU KNOW, A THOUGHT OF LIKE, WHAT IS IT, 6,000 OF THE 10,000 MISSING? SO I'D BE ABOUT ROUGHLY SIX FILLING IN 60% OF OUR, UM, MISSING GHOST TREES IN THE STREETS. AND, UM, YEAH. UH, SO ANYWAY, I THINK I'LL, I THINK I'LL COME BACK TO SOME MORE IDEAS. UH, BUT I APPRECIATE THE, THAT'S, THAT'S, YEAH. WHERE WE'RE AT. YEAH. AND FEEL FREE TOO, GUYS, TO ASK QUESTIONS TO COLLEEN WHILE WE HAVE HER, IF YOU NEED CLARIFYING QUESTIONS OR, YOU KNOW, ANY, ANYTHING ABOUT THE STATISTICS BEFORE US. UH, I THINK I REALLY LAID OUT MY BIG QUESTIONS, WHICH WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE HAVE THIS PLAN IN HAND, WHAT IS THE ORDER OF OPERATIONS MAYBE BEST PRACTICES FROM OTHER CITIES THAT, AND THIS COULD BE A BIG QUESTION FOR ANY MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT, IS ONCE YOU HAVE A, A PLAN THAT SOUNDS GREAT, HOW DO YOU MAKE IT HAPPEN? UH, AND TECHNIQUES THAT YOU'VE SEEN WORK FOR THAT. UM, SO, AND I'LL LET YOU COME TO THAT AFTER WE GO THROUGH EVERYONE, COLLEEN. SO I'LL PASS IT OVER TO ARYN FOR BIG PICTURE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS. HEY, THANK YOU. UM, COLLEEN, I'M PRETTY TOUGH. UM, I HAVE A REALLY HIGH BAR FOR EXCELLENCE AND I JUST HAVE TO SAY, YOU REALLY DELIVERED, THIS IS EXCELLENT WORK. YOU'VE THOROUGHLY INCORPORATED IN ALL OF OUR DISCUSSIONS OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, UM, AND JUST DONE A REALLY BROAD, UM, THOROUGH JOB OF RESEARCH AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TO GET INPUT AND IT REALLY SHOWS. AND I JUST CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I DO HAVE SOME SPECIFIC THINGS. UM, NUMBER ONE, UM, I JUST WANT, UH, START WITH A LITTLE REMINDER THAT BILL, OR WAS IT ROGER? PARDON ME. AND DARREN AND I WERE THE, UM, TREE ORDINANCE AD HOC UP UNTIL ROUGHLY A YEAR AGO. AND WE INTERVIEWED, UM, BEST TREE PRACTICE CITIES, LEADING TREE CITIES IN CALIFORNIA, CHICO, PALO ALTO, UM, ROSEVILLE, PACIFIC GROVE, SAN LUIS OBISPO. AND I'M LOOKING THROUGH, BACK THROUGH MY NOTES EARLIER TODAY, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF GOOD STUFF ABOUT BUDGET, ABOUT SOFTWARE USED, ABOUT OPERATIONAL, YOU KNOW, UM, FRAMEWORK, HOW MUCH STAFF IS IN-HOUSE, HOW MUCH STUFF IS OUT, OUT OF HOUSE. AND UM, I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT WE HAVE A MEETING WITH YOU SO THAT WE CAN SHARE SOME OF THAT. UM, UH, OTHER CITIES REQUIRE, UM, ARBORISTS THAT PERFORM ANY WORK IN THEIR CITIES, [00:45:01] PUBLIC OR PRIVATE LAND TO BE LICENSED WITH THE CITY. UH, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT, UH, KNOWLEDGE GETS INCORPORATED AT SOME POINT BECAUSE WE ALL LOOK AROUND AND WE SEE THESE HORRENDOUS HACK JOBS ON TREES. THAT JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN IN TREES LIKE CARMEL AND PACIFIC GROVE WHERE I SPENT THE LAST WEEK. THERE'S NO SUCH THING BECAUSE IF YOU'RE WORKING ON A TREE DOWN THERE, YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING. THEY'VE BEEN VETTED AND I THINK THAT WOULD REALLY SERVE PETALUMA WELL. UM, THE TREE TECHNICAL MANUAL. CAN WE PLEASE GET CITY COUNCIL TO, UH, CONSIDER SPENDING MONEY ON THAT? WE SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON, ON LITTLE PET PROJECTS THAT, YOU KNOW, ARE INTERESTING AND GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY PERHAPS. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT ALL THE COSTS AND BENEFITS AND WHAT WE GET IN RETURN FOR A TREE TECHNICAL MANUAL AND HOW MUCH THAT MIGHT COST, I'M SURE THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD SUPPORT IT. IT'S NOT THAT MUCH MONEY AND THE BENEFIT IS TERRIFIC AND IT IS SO SORELY NEEDED. UM, AND, UM, I'M WONDERING IF WE CAN PLEASE KEEP IN MIND WHAT SAN LUIS OBISPO DOES TO FUND THIS. WE DID THE CALCULATIONS HERE ON THE TREE COMMITTEE. KEYS FOR TREES, THE HOTEL, $5 SURCHARGE PER NIGHT. PEOPLE ARE LOVING GIVING THE CITY THEIR MONEY SPECIFICALLY TO FUND TREES. THIS WOULD PAY FOR ALL OF THIS. AND FOR A CITY OUR SIZE WITH OUR NUMBER OF HOTEL ROOMS, WE'VE ESTIMATED THAT TO BE OVER A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR, $600,000. CAN WE PLEASE, UM, CONSIDER THAT AND LIFT THAT TO THE TOP? UM, AUTOMATED SOFTWARE CAN INTEGRATE, UM, OUR PROTOCOLS CAN INTEGRATE DATA SETS SUCH AS OUR PERMITTING, SUCH AS OUR TREE CANOPY DATA SUCH AS OUR, UM, OUR, UH, SERVICE REQUIREMENT OR SERVICE, UH, REQUISITIONS OR INTAKE FORM ON OUR WEBSITE AND SPIT OUT WORK ORDERS, SPIT OUT AUTO EMAILS FOR LIKE FOLLOW UP. LIKE HAVE YOU TAKEN THE STAKES OUTTA THE TREES THAT YOU PLANTED RECENTLY TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS? UM, LET'S SEE HERE. UH, STAFFING. UM, I THINK THAT THE FINAL PLAN, AND WE CAN HAVE A TALK, MAYBE COME BACK WITH A WORKSHOP TO TALK ABOUT OPERATIONAL, UM, CONSIDERATIONS. IDEAS, BECAUSE WE NOT TO NEED TO NOT ONLY, UM, PUT DOWN THAT WE WANNA HIRE PEOPLE BECAUSE PEOPLE IN PARKS GET MAINTENANCE. WE DO A REQUISITION TO HIRE THEM, WE BUDGET TO HIRE THEM, BUT THEN WE NEVER FILL THE POSITION. WE'VE HAD AT LEAST THREE POSITIONS OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS REMAIN UNAIRED. AND WE, AND WE KEEP, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT KEEPS SCREAMING THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE. WELL THAT'S BECAUSE THAT MONEY IS GOING SOMEWHERE ELSE. AND IF YOU GO TO THE PARKS COMMISSION MEETING, THEY TALK ABOUT THAT QUITE A BIT. UM, REMINDER, WE'RE IN A LOW FIRE ZONE. UM, FOR WHAT THAT'S WORTH, I THINK WE'RE TIER TWO. UM, AND THEN YES TO THE MOST AMBITIOUS TREE GROWS 50% TREE STREET TREES. CAN WE CONSIDER A LITTLE CARROT RELEAF DOES SO MUCH WORK FOR THE CITY. CAN WE OFFER $50 FOR ANY HOUSE THAT WILL PLANT A TREE AND THEN $50 AGAIN, A RELIEF TREE, $50 AGAIN IN X NUMBER OF YEARS, I DON'T KNOW, TWO YEARS WHEN IT IS DEMONSTRATED THAT THAT TREE HAS SURVIVED AND HAS BEEN PROPERLY MAINTAINED. IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A LOT OF MONEY. IN FACT, IT WOULD ONLY BE $50,000 TO DO THAT FOR YOUR MAXIMUM GOAL OF PLANTING 500 TREES. UM, YES, PLEASE STREAMLINE THE PLANTING. UM, YES, PLEASE DIVERSIFY. YES, PLEASE MAKE TREES A PRIORITY BECAUSE WHEN YOU GET INTO THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS, THE BIKE AND PED COMMISSION MEETINGS, UM, PARKS, COMMISSION MEETINGS, AND EVEN CITY COUNCIL, THEY'VE GOT OTHER THINGS THAT THEY NEED TO FOCUS ON. LIKE HOW MANY AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS THERE ARE OR ARENA NUMBERS. UM, TRAFFIC FLOW. WE REALLY NEED TO FIND EVERY OPPORTUNITY, PERHAPS BRINGING THINGS OFFICIALLY TO THE TREE COMMITTEE TO MAKE SURE TREES ARE PUT IN SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE SOME PEOPLE JUST SAYING, OH, I DON'T LIKE TREES. LET'S JUST SKIP IT. WE CAN'T LET THAT BE A CRACK THAT TREES FALL THROUGH IF WE'RE GONNA MEET THESE GOALS. UM, AND THEN I WOULD SAY MY LAST TWO POINTS, WE MUST HAVE A DIRECTOR REPORT TO PUBLIC WORKS, NOT PARKS. IT NEEDS TO BE OVERARCHING UMBRELLA OF THE CITY, NOT A LITTLE SUBSET OF THE CITY FUNCTIONS SUCH AS PARKS OR SUCH AS PLANNING. THAT WOULD SET US UP FOR FAILURE. AND BY THE WAY, OTHER CITIES HAVE A DIRECTOR AND THEN THEY CONTRACT OUT A MANAGER. UM, AND THEN THE LAST THING IS SOMETHING I JUST TOUCHED ON BEFORE. CAN YOU PLEASE COME BACK FOR A MORE CASUAL, UM, DISCUSSION WORKSHOP WHERE WE CAN JUST TALK ABOUT OPERATIONS? [00:50:02] 'CAUSE THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, WE'RE A UNIQUE LITTLE CITY HERE AND WE HAVE A LOT OF INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T STUMBLE ON ANY HURDLES AND THAT WE CAN GET THIS EXCELLENT THINKING TO THE FINISH LINE. THANK YOU. A LOT OF VERY SPECIFIC ITEMS THERE. TARYN, I CAN SEE YOU'RE ALREADY WAY INTO IMPLEMENTATION. YOU KNOW, IT GOT ME THINKING ABOUT THIS. UM, YOU KNOW WHAT, RIGHT NOW THERE'S KIND OF A WORKING GROUP DISCUSSING A LOT OF THESE ITEMS IN DEVELOPING THIS PLAN. AND WHEN WE THINK ABOUT TREES, IT'S BIGGER THAN TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. IT'S BIGGER THAN LIKE, THIS IS CROSS STAKEHOLDERS WITH THE GREAT NONPROFITS WE HAVE IN TOWN, BUT JUST SO MANY PEOPLE ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT TREES. IT GETS ME THINKING WHEN WE THINK ABOUT IMPLEMENTATION, MORE INFORMAL WORKSHOPS, THROWING AROUND A LOT OF IDEAS THAT ARE PRESENTED HERE. YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE APPROPRIATE VEHICLE? IS THERE LIKE A IMPLEMENTATION WORKING GROUP THAT COULD BE FORMED, LIKE WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW TO DEVELOP THIS PLAN THAT CARRIES ON INTO THE FUTURE THAT HAS MEMBERS FROM TAC HAS, MEMBERS FROM RELEAF. BASICALLY WHAT KLA IS ALREADY ORGANIZING NOW, BUT HOW DO WE AS A CITY KEEP THAT GOING TO KEEP THESE CONVERSATIONS GOING AND KEEP INFLUENCING DECISION MAKERS AT THE CITY FOR THINGS WHEN IT COMES TO FUNDING. AND SO A A LOT OF GREAT SPECIFICS, AND I WANT US AS A GROUP AND, YOU KNOW, AS A COMMUNITY OF FOLKS INTERESTED IN TREES, IS HOW DO WE CARRY ITEMS LIKE THAT FORWARD AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS LIKE THAT, THAT, THAT REALLY GO SOMEWHERE. UM, BUT DEFINITELY SEND ALL THOSE SPECIFICS TO KALA AS WELL TO ENTER IT INTO THE MILIEU. BUT, UH, THANK YOU TARYN. DIANE, UH, PLEASE. QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? HEY, DARREN. ONE SECOND. YEAH, I JUST SHUT DOWN THE, THE SUMMARY SLIDE. SOMEBODY WANTS ME TO BRING IT BACK. I WILL. BUT I FELT LIKE YOU WEREN'T EVEN, LIKE, YOU COULDN'T TELL THAT I WAS STILL HERE. SO I WANNA MAKE SURE YOU KNOW THAT I'M HERE AND I'M RESPONDING AND, AND HEARING EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE SAYING AND TAKING A LOT OF NOTES TOO. SO, UH, LET ME KNOW IF YOU WANT THAT SLIDE BACK. OTHERWISE I WILL, UH, BE HERE AT THE DISEMBODIED HEAD. . . NOW IT FEELS LIKE YOU'RE MORE WITH US THAN WHEN IT WAS THE TABLE. SO THIS IS GOOD. WELL, STAR TREKKY, BUT , UH, DIANE, PLEASE. OKAY. YEAH. UM, WELL I HAD OTHER THINGS TO SAY UNTIL YOU SAID ALL THAT DARREN, BECAUSE SINCE BEING ON THIS COMMITTEE, I'VE HAD SO MANY QUESTIONS OF HOW WE'RE MOVING FORWARD AND HOW IS IT THAT WE'RE, WE'RE RECEIVING INFORMATION, WE'RE GIVING INFORMATION, BUT WHERE IS IT ALL GOING? AND A WORKING COMMITTEE, I THOUGHT SORT OF THAT THAT'S WHAT WE ARE DOING. SO YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE DOING IT CROSS BOARD OF, YOU KNOW, PARKS AND OTHER, UH, PLACES, WHATEVER, UM, WHO DECIDES WHEN THAT CAN GET STARTED AND HOW IT GETS STARTED AND CAN WE DO IT SOON? I FEEL LIKE A LOT OF THIS IS, IT'S GREAT. I LOVE EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE, UM, AS WELL. AND I LIKE ALL OF THE REALLY STRATEGIC THINKING. UM, I GUESS MY QUALM IS JUST, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE TIMELINE AND THE SAFEGUARDS FOR NOT GETTING THIS WATERED DOWN THROUGH THE PROCESS, YOU KNOW, HAS POLICY USUALLY DOES. ALSO, UM, I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT HOW IS IT THAT IN OTHER CITIES THESE, UM, REGULATIONS ARE ENFORCED? LIKE, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY LIKE WITH PRIVATE TREE ORDINANCES, DO THEY GO DOOR TO DOOR? IF SOMEONE HAS, YOU KNOW, CUT DOWN A TREE, IS THERE A LITTLE TREE NAZI THAT GOES OUT AND YOU KNOW, YELLS? I MEAN, WHAT IS IT THAT, HOW DO WE MANAGE THOSE THINGS? DO YOU HAVE REFERENCES FOR THAT AND FOR, YOU KNOW, THE ENGAGEMENT PIECE, BRINGING IT TO THE PUBLIC IN A WAY THAT IT'S WELL RECEIVED AND NOT LOOKING AT IT LIKE IT'S SOME KIND OF RESTRICTION AND YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY HAS TO FOLLOW THESE RULES AND YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T, YOU'RE GONNA GET REALLY PENALIZED. WELL, YES, WE SORT OF WANT THAT, BUT WE DON'T. RIGHT? SO WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT. UM, AND I GUESS THE TECHNICAL MANUAL, YEAH, I'VE HEARD ABOUT IT. I, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE TIMELINE ON THAT. I DUNNO WHO ANSWERS THAT QUESTION, BUT ARE WE CLOSE, IF YOU'VE SEEN IT, YOU KNOW, IS IT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN START REALLY, UH, PUTTING INTO PLACE, UM, MORE FORMALLY RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, JUST TALKING ABOUT THAT TOO. UM, PG AND E, I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW OTHER CITIES DEAL WITH THAT. UM, IT'S A HUGE PROBLEM HERE. ALL THE AMPUTATED TREES AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW OTHER PLACES DEAL WITH IT. AND THAT'S ABOUT IT. THANK YOU. AND JUST BEFORE, OH PLEASE KAT, IF I WAS JUST GONNA INTERJECT ON THIS ONE POINT, WE'VE SEEN THE TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE, WHICH ADDRESSES PROTECTION AND SOME OF THESE OTHER KIND OF REGULATION ITEMS AS IT PERTAINS TO PUBLIC TREES AND ALSO PRIVATE TREES. AND TO YOUR POINT, THAT CAME BEFORE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A DRAFT REVIEW AND THAT ALREADY GOT WATERED DOWN A LOT IN THAT DISCUSSION. UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, I WOULD JUST SAY PART OF THAT IS WE NEED, EVERYBODY'S PASSIONATE ABOUT TREES. WE NEED TO COMMUNICATE WHEN ITEMS LIKE THAT ARE BEING PRESENTED AND DISCUSSED. SO WE CAN HAVE PEOPLE [00:55:01] IN THE ROOM THAT WILL ADVOCATE FOR THE REALLY ASPIRATIONAL GOALS THAT I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE ON THIS COMMITTEE HAVE STRIVED FOR. SO YES, THE WATERING DOWN IS A REAL THING AND WE NEED THAT CONSTANT ENGAGEMENT. UM, KAT, I KNOW YOU WANTED TO, UH, SPEAK NEXT, PLEASE. YES. HI EVERYONE. GOOD EVENING. IF I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO MEET YOU, I'M KAT REISINGER STEPPING IN FOR DREW THIS EVENING, DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION HERE. UM, BEEN HERE ABOUT TWO YEARS. FIRST TIME THOUGH, SITTING HERE THIS EVENING, SO THANK YOU. UM, EXCUSE ME. I JUST WANTED TO REMIND THE COMMITTEE THAT AS AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE, THE ROLE HERE IS REALLY TO GUIDE THE CITY STAFF IN TERMS OF THE GOALS AND THE OUTCOMES, THE GENERALITIES THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE. SO THE GOALS AND OUTCOMES THAT WERE LISTED HERE ABOVE ARE REALLY HELPFUL FOR US WHEN THEY'RE PRIORITIZED FROM AN ADVISORY BOARD OR COMMITTEE. ONCE WE START GETTING INTO KIND OF THE IMPLEMENTATION, LOGISTICS AND SPECIFICS OF HOW CITY STAFF CAN DO THOSE SPECIFIC ITEMS, THAT STARTS TO REALLY KIND OF MOVE INTO WATERS THAT THEN LIMIT OUR ABILITY TO ACTUALLY DELIVER THOSE GOALS. 'CAUSE WE HAVE A WHOLE DIFFERENT KIND OF CITY ELEMENTS. JUST KIND OF THINKING THAT IN THE DIALOGUE OF HOW TO BE MOST HELPFUL, IN WHICH WAYS YOU CAN HELP US HELP YOU AND MEET THOSE GOALS ARE PRIORITIZING THE GENERAL, WE WANT THIS MANY TREES OR WE REALLY WANNA FOCUS ON THE TECHNICAL MANUAL OR THOSE ELEMENTS SO THEN WE CAN DETERMINE THE BEST WAY TO SUPPORT THOSE RESOURCES IN THAT MORE GENERAL DIRECTION. ONCE WE GET MORE INTO KIND OF THOSE, FOR EXAMPLE, SAYING IN AN URBAN FORESTER POSITION IS A GREAT IDEA. I'M NOT COMMITTING TO ANYTHING, I'M JUST SHARING SOME FEEDBACK THAT IS REALLY HELPFUL TO US ONCE WE START NITPICKING, OR I SHOULDN'T SAY THAT WORD, I APOLOGIZE. ONCE WE START GOING MORE SPECIFIC INTO THAT PERSON SHOULD WORK AT THIS LOCATION AND REPORT TO THIS SINGULAR PERSON AND FOCUS ON THIS ONE THING THAT'S MORE DIFFICULT FOR US TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE GENERAL GOAL. SO JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE THAT FEEDBACK. 'CAUSE WE DO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE OBVIOUSLY VERY PASSIONATE HERE AND WANNA SUPPORT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AND THE GREAT WORK THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING HELPING US REALIZE THOSE PRIORITIES, WE WANNA BE ABLE TO BEST SUPPORT BACK. SO THANK YOU. YEAH, AND I THINK THAT'S A GREAT REMINDER FOR ALL OF US TO THINK HOW TAC CAN BEST CONTRIBUTE. AND I THINK DIANE HIT ON A LOT OF THOSE POINTS AS WELL. UH, IS AS A GROUP, ORGANIZED GROUP MEETING, HOW CAN WE CONTRIBUTE? 'CAUSE AS INDIVIDUALS, WE CAN ALWAYS BE PUSHING THIS KIND OF WHOLE AGENDA FORWARD. UH, BUT COLLEEN, I KNOW WE JUST THREW A LOT AT YOU. THERE ARE A LOT OF THOUGHTS, QUESTIONS FROM REALLY GENERAL TO SPECIFIC. UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY, YOU KNOW, HELPFUL COMMENTS, RESPONSES, MAYBE BEST PRACTICES ON NEXT STEPS YOU'VE SEEN OTHER CITIES DO, UM, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING YOU YOU WANT TO ADD GIVEN, YOU KNOW, ALL THAT INPUT FROM MARGARET? UM, THANK YOU, DARREN. THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR THAT FEEDBACK. TARYN, THANK YOU FOR THE VERY KIND WORDS. UM, AND KAT, THANK YOU FOR, UH, FOCUSING US IN THAT WAY BECAUSE I THINK YOU SAID IT'S, IT'S REALLY THE TENSION OF A STRATEGIC, OF ANY STRATEGIC PLAN IS THAT YOU, YOUR, YOUR OBJECTIVE IS TO FIGURE OUT THE TASKS THAT NEED TO BE DONE, BUT YOU AS A STAFF MEMBER ARE CONSTRAINED IN HOW YOU CAN DO THEM. SO WE CAN HAVE THESE WONDERFUL ASPIRATIONS, BUT IN THE END, THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO WEIGH IN AND HUMAN RESOURCES IS GOING TO WEIGH IN. AND SO UNFORTUNATELY, THAT MEANS THAT IN SOME WAYS THIS UFMP WILL BE A LIST OF THINGS TO DO WITHOUT VERY, WITHOUT COMPLETELY SPECIFIC OPERATIONALIZATION TECHNIQUES. BUT, SO THAT'S A LIMITATION BECAUSE IT'S FRUSTRATING BECAUSE SOME OF IT IS SAYING, HEY, YOU NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DEAL, YOU NEED TO PLAN FOR URBAN WOOD WITHOUT ME SAYING, WELL, THERE'S THIS COMPANY HERE WHO HAS A MOBILE, UM, PROCESSOR WHERE YOU CAN FEED THEM YOUR LOGS AND YOU SHOULD PLAN TO DO THAT WITH A HUNDRED TREES PER YEAR. RIGHT? YOU GET THE IDEA. SO I'M GONNA SAY URBAN WOOD IS A VALUABLE IDEA. I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR PETALUMA, BUT PETALUMA HAS TO FIGURE OUT, FIRST OF ALL, IF YOU AGREE, AND THEN SECONDLY, YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO IT, UM, BECAUSE YOU'RE CONSTRAINED BY THINGS THAT I CAN'T CONTROL OR EVEN REALLY GET A FULL GRASP ON. SO THAT, THAT'S ONE PIECE OF IT THAT SAID, IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME THAT THIS IS NOT A PLAN TO MAKE A PLAN. SO TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE, MY VISION FOR THIS URBAN FORCE MANAGEMENT PLAN IS THAT IT ACTUALLY IS JUST A TO-DO LIST AND YOU COULD GO DOWN. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY DID IN DAVIS THAT I REALLY LIKED, THEY PUT THEIR URBAN FORCE MANAGEMENT PLAN ONLINE, AND EACH ITEM UNDER THE ACTION IS ACTUALLY A CHECKBOX. SO SOMEBODY IN THE CITY NOW, THEY HAVEN'T BEEN KEEPING UP WITH THIS, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE NOT GONNA DO IT, BECAUSE I KNOW IN THE END IT WON'T ACTUALLY GET DONE. BUT THEY HAVE YOU, ONCE YOU'VE COMPLETED THE TASK, YOU CAN CHECK IT OFF AND THERE'S LIKE A LITTLE PROGRESS BAR. SO YOU CAN SAY, UM, IF THE, IF THE GOAL IS, UH, CREATED TREE A NEW, REVISE THE TREE TECHNICAL MANUAL AND HAVE IT APPROVED AND PUT INTO ACTION, YOU [01:00:01] CAN CHANGE THAT PROGRESS BAR TO SAY, WE'RE 25%, 50% OF THE WAY L AND YOU'RE DONE. YOU CAN CHECK IT OFF. SO I, I WANTED THIS TO BE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, A PRACTICAL THING WHERE YOU CAN SAY, OKAY, WE DID THAT. WE DID THAT, WE DID THAT. WE'RE MOVING THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND WE'RE, WE'RE TACKLING THESE TASKS AS OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED TO MAKE A PLAN TO MAKE A PLAN. UM, SO IN THE END, THERE'LL BE ACTION ITEMS THAT ARE RECOMMENDED, AND THERE'LL BE AN IMPLEMENTATION PLAN THAT LAYS OUT WHAT WE THINK OF SORT OF AS THE, THE, THE MOST IMPORTANT ONES THAT WOULD COME FIRST. AND THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY THE MOST IMPORTANT IN THE SENSE LIKE, MAYBE ASSUMING RESPONSIBILITY FOR STREET TREES IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING ON THE LIST. THERE ARE THE THINGS THAT HAVE TO HAPPEN BEFORE, OTHER THINGS THAT CAN HAPPEN. SO FOR INSTANCE, BEFORE YOU CAN, THE CITY COULD RESU ASSUME RESPONSIBILITY FOR STREET TREES, YOU NEED A COMPLETE STREET TREE INVENTORY BECAUSE YOU CAN'T TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR SOMETHING IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR. SO THE OPERATIONALIZATION, THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN WOULD SORT OF LAY OUT A, A, A PROCESS BY WHICH YOU WOULD DO THOSE THINGS IN AN ORDER THAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE WITH SUGGESTIONS FOR A TIMELINE OF HOW LONG THEY MIGHT TAKE THE PARTNERS THAT WOULD BE INVOLVED, AND WHO WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE IN THE END. UM, SO THERE WERE A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS ABOUT IMPLEMENTATION. I HOPE THAT THAT ANSWERS SOME OF IT. UM, I LIKE YOUR IDEA ABOUT RECOMMENDATIONS FOR HOW OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE THIS, AND SO I'LL SEE IF WE CAN INCORPORATE SOME OF THAT, BECAUSE THAT, THE TRUTH IS SO OFTEN A PLAN LIKE THIS DOES GET DONE AND THEN IT GETS PUT ON A SHELF AND IT NEVER IS HEARD FROM AGAIN. SO I DO THINK IN SOME WAYS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT COULD HAPPEN WOULD BE TO HIRE AN URBAN FORESTER WHOSE JOB IT IS THEN TO BASICALLY MAKE ALL OF THESE THINGS HAPPEN, RIGHT? YOU'RE PAYING THE STAFF MEMBER TO DO THIS. NOW YOU HAVE A PERSON WHO HAS BOTH AUTHORITY AND RESPONSIBILITY AND HELP CARRY THAT OUT. UM, I, I THINK THE, THE BIGGEST KEY TO SUCCESS WOULD BE HAVING ONE PERSON WITH THE VISION, THE AUTHORITY, AND THE RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE AS MUCH OF THIS HAPPEN AS POSSIBLE. SO I THINK THAT WOULD, THAT'S MY, MY MAIN I VISION ABOUT IMPLEMENTATION. UM, I'M LOOKING QUICKLY THROUGH THE NOTES THAT I TOOK HERE. I LIKED YOUR IDEA OF AN IMPLEMENTATION WORKING GROUP AGAIN, SO SOMEONE TO KEEP THE PRESSURE ON AND SAY, WE SAID WE WERE GONNA DO THESE THINGS. HAVE WE ACTUALLY DONE THEM? UM, I, I MADE NOTES ABOUT ALL OF THE REST OF THESE THINGS. I'M JUST NOT SURE THAT THERE ARE THINGS THAT I MAKE SENSE TO ANSWER RIGHT HERE AND NOW. AND I THINK IN BROAD STROKES, IT SOUNDED LIKE FROM A LOT OF OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT WE AGREE THAT YOU'VE IDENTIFIED THE PAIN POINTS IN PETALUMA THAT A LOT OF US HAVE WANTED ANSWERS TO. SO WE'VE SUCCESSFULLY IDENTIFIED KIND OF THE PROBLEM OR THE ISSUES, AND NOW WE'RE WE'RE BEING SOLUTION ORIENTED AND WORKING TOWARD WHAT THE SOLUTIONS EVENTUALLY LOOK LIKE. UH, SO I THINK THAT'S GOOD NEWS. I DON'T SEE ANYTHING HERE AND ANYONE CAN CHIME IN THAT WE'VE MISSED ANY BIG PICTURE ITEMS OR ANY ISSUES IN PETALUMA THAT WE THINK ARE MISSING OR ARE NOT ADDRESSED BY THIS PLAN. UH, BECAUSE I, I THINK COLLEEN AND HER TEAM HAVE REALLY GIVEN US A GOOD, YOU KNOW, TOTAL PICTURE OF, OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN PETALUMA. UM, BILL YEAH, I'D AGREE. I I GUESS ONE THING, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK ABOUT THE URBAN FORESTER, UH, AND I, HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS. AND THEN I, I THINK ABOUT, WOW, A LOT OF THIS STUFF IS, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, GETS TAKEN CARE OF WITH, WITH JUST THAT OR, AND THAT TEAM AND, OR, OR MAYBE I'M IMAGINING SOMETHING THAT'S, UH, A LITTLE MORE OPTIMISTIC ABOUT HOW THIS, THIS, THIS GROUP OF, UH, CITY EMPLOYEES GOES OUT AND JUST LIKE REPOPULATES OUR OUR CITY FULL OF TREES. AND I, I'M SURE THEY WOULD DO THEIR BEST, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND I KNOW THAT WOULD TAKE TIME, BUT, UM, IT DOES FEEL LIKE SOME OF THE, THE, UM, THE URBAN FORESTRY MANAGEMENT PLAN IS LIKE, REALLY, IF WE DID MAKE THAT BOLD STEP, MAYBE WE COULD HAVE HIGHER ASPIRATIONS IN OUR GROWTH THAN THE 250 TREES, UH, PER, PER YEAR. LIKE IF WE, IF WE INVESTED MONEY INTO THAT IN, INTO OUR, UH, TO HAVING THOSE TYPE OF EMPLOYEES, MAYBE WE, WE HAVE HIGHER GOALS THAT WE CAN REACH. BECAUSE I DO REALIZE, LIKE THE MODEL WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW, WE'VE REALLY HAD DECLINING CANOPY FOR YEARS. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S REALLY JUST NIBBLING AROUND THE EDGES, IT'S GONNA PROBABLY BE MORE OF THE SAME. ALTHOUGH WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, UH, RELIEF AND, AND A LOT MORE INTEREST IN THE CITY AND, AND, AND, AND THERE ARE A LOT MORE, THERE'S A LOT MORE ATTENTION TO TREES. I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. UH, I DO THINK WE [01:05:01] NEED TO TAKE A BIG SWING AT OUR MODEL AND, UH, AND SO YEAH, REALLY, UH, THINK THIS IS GREAT. JUST WANNA MAKE THAT COMMENT. THANK YOU. AND I, I HEAR THAT ABOUT THE ASPIRATIONAL. UM, AND, AND WE'VE, WE HAVE GONE BACK AND FORTH ON THIS. I THINK THIS IS A PHILOSOPHICAL DIFFERENCE. MY, MY PERSPECTIVE IS, I'D, I'D LIKE TO HAVE A TARGET WHERE YOU CAN ACTUALLY CHECK OFF THE BOX AND SAY, WE SAID WE WERE GONNA DO THIS, AND WE DID IT. UM, AND WE HEARD FROM CITY STAFF, AND THIS IS A VERY LEGITIMATE CONCERN REPEATEDLY IN URBAN FORESTRY. IT'S FUN TO PLANT TREES, BUT THOSE TREES HAVE TO BE TAKEN CARE OF. SO EVERY YEAR YOU PLANT 250 TREES EVERY FOUR YEARS, YOU'VE GOT ANOTHER THOUSAND TREES YOU HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF. SO THAT'S WHY ANOTHER REASON WHY WE PUT MANAGE AND PROTECT AS OUR FIRST TWO GOALS OVERGROW IS BECAUSE THE TREES THAT YOU HAVE NOW WILL GET BIGGER. AS THEY GET BIGGER. THEY GIVE MORE BENEFITS, BUT THEY'RE MORE EXPENSIVE TO TAKE CARE OF. SO WE REALLY, LIKE, IF YOU DID NOTHING BUT KEEP ALIVE ALL OF THE TREES THAT YOU HAVE NOW AND LET THEM GROW TO THEIR MATURE SIZE, YOU'D BE DOING A GOOD THING AS LONG AS YOU REPLACE THE ONES THAT DIED. UM, SO IN A WORLD OF LIMITED FUNDING, DO WE PUT THE MONEY TOWARDS TAKING CARE OF WHAT WE HAVE OR TOWARDS PLANTING MORE TREES? WELL, OBVIOUSLY WE WANNA BALANCE OF BOTH OF THOSE THINGS. UM, I'VE ACTUALLY PARTICIPATED IN A DEBATE WHERE I ARGUED BOTH SIDES, WE'LL NEVER TAKE CARE OF ANOTHER TREE. WE'RE JUST GONNA PLANT TREES EVERYWHERE, OR WE'RE NEVER GONNA PLANT ANOTHER TREE. WE'RE JUST GONNA TAKE CARE OF WHAT WE HAVE. AND I WON BOTH OF THOSE DEBATES. SO IT, IT, YOU, IT'S PO YOU CAN MAKE A CASE FOR EITHER ONE OF THOSE THINGS, BUT I'M HERE TRYING TO FIND A BALANCE BETWEEN GROWING YOUR URBAN FOREST BY PLANTING MORE TREES AND GROWING YOUR URBAN CANOPY BY JUST LETTING THE CARE, DOING A GOOD JOB, TAKING CARE OF WHAT YOU HAVE AND LETTING THEM GROW. UM, BUT I RECOGNIZE THAT THAT IT, IT'S NOT EXACT, IT'S NOT EASY TO STRIKE THE RIGHT NOTE THERE. SO IT'S NOT, IT MIGHT BE THAT AN ACTUAL NUMBER. I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE A NUMBER, A SPECIFIC NUMBER, LIKE THIS DOESN'T BELONG IN THE URBAN FOREST MANAGEMENT PLAN. UM, BUT THAT FEELS KIND OF LIKE WIMPING OUT. I DON'T, I'M HAPPY TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY. WELL, UM, TARYN, I WANT TO TURN TO YOU. I WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF TIME, AND I DO HAVE SOME PUBLIC COMMENTS. UM, SO IS YOUR ITEM MAYBE A 32ND OR SHOULD WE WAIT TILL AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT? UH, I'LL JUST JUMP IN NOW. YEAH. UM, I THINK WE'VE GOT AN, A HIDDEN PROBLEM, AND I'LL JUST REPEAT IT. PEOPLE ON THE D HERE, I'VE HEARD IT BEFORE. UM, WE'VE GOT PREDATORY TREE SERVICE COMPANIES THAT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, HONESTLY, A COUPLE OF D JUST ON MY STREET, LET'S SAY 24 TREES HAVE BEEN CHOPPED DOWN BECAUSE THEY COME, SOMEBODY THINKS, OH, TRIM IT, WHAT DO I DO? AND THEY LIE TO THEM, THEY DID IT TO ME. THEY SAID, YOU'VE GOT TREES THAT ARE RUINING YOUR, UM, DRIVEWAY. AND I'M LIKE, HMM, NOT SO SURE. UM, BUT THEY TELL ALL MY NEIGHBORS, THEY CHOP DOWN THEIR TREES. WE REDID OUR LI OUR DRIVEWAY NO ROOTS, RIGHT? SO YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING OUT THERE. I GET TEXTS MULTIPLE ONES A WEEK FROM, UH, YOU KNOW, OH, WE'RE A TREE SERVICE. WE'VE GOT TO HAVE THAT COMPONENT LOCKED IN WHERE YOU CAN DO TREE WORK IN THE CITY OF PETALUMA, UNLESS YOU ARE LICENSED WITH THE CITY OF PETALUMA, YOU GOTTA GET RID OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE CHOPPING DOWN THE TREES FOR NO REASON AT ALL EXCEPT FOR GREED. AND THAT, AND THAT'S ACTUALLY A BIGGER DISCUSSION ITEM THAT CAME AT OUR LAST PLANNING COMMISSION. WE TALKED ABOUT THE TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE. THIS TOPIC WAS RAISED. THERE'S SOME COMPLEXITY THERE. UH, THERE'S SOME, I DON'T KNOW, YOU GET INTO THIS AREA WHERE YOU DON'T WANT TO OVERREGULATE AND PREVENT PEOPLE FROM BEING ABLE TO DO WORK. I TOTALLY GET IT, BUT THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA LOSE THIS IN THAT CONVERSATION RIGHT NOW. I'M, I THINK YOU RAISED, I'M SORRY, BUT AT SOME POINT YOU HAVE TO CHOOSE WHETHER YOU WANNA A BEAUTIFUL CITY OR WHETHER YOU WANNA GHETTO, RIGHT? DO YOU WANNA KEEP IT NICE AND PROTECTED OR DO YOU WANNA COP OUT AND SAY, OH, WE CAN'T MAKE THAT HAPPEN. I'M SORRY, BUT I DIDN'T GET WHERE I AM IN LIFE BY CHOOSING A LOW BAR AND TO BE SUBSTANDARD. AND I LOVE THE ASPIRATIONAL AND I WANNA GO FOR THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF TREES. UNDERSTOOD. GO MAX. NO, GREAT POINT TO RAISE. SO WITH THAT, WITH THAT POINT IN MIND, WE WILL TURN IT OVER TO PUBLIC COMMENT. SO WE WILL OPEN IT UP FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO COME COMMENT ON THIS AGENDA ITEM WITH THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK BEFORE THE COMMITTEE. I HAVE TWO COMMENT CARDS IN FRONT OF ME. I WILL ASK OUR CLERK TO, WE GET ANY COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM PRIOR TO THE MEETING, NOT PRIOR, JUST NOW. EXCELLENT. YEAH. AND THEN I'LL NOTE, I APOLOGIZE, WE'RE HAVING TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES, SO I WILL DO THE THREE MINUTES AND I'LL JUST LET YOU KNOW WHEN IT'S DONE. WE'LL SEE HOW [01:10:01] GOOD EVERYONE'S INTERNAL CLOCKS ARE. UH, SO FIRST WE'LL BE, UH, JOHN TRIS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. OKAY, THANK YOU. UM, FIRST OFF, IT'S NOT USUAL FOR, I WAS COUNCIL MEMBER, NOT USUAL FOR US TO COME FOR COMMITTEES AND SAY THINGS. BUT SINCE I WAS CHAIR OF THIS COMMITTEE FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND I WROTE THE TECHNICAL MANUAL, I HELPED FOUND RELIEF. I THOUGHT, OKAY, MAYBE I OUGHT TO SPEAK UP A LITTLE BIT NOW WITH THAT. UH, SO I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE, UM, THAT I HAVE, YOU HAVE MY SUPPORT, BUT PRIMARILY I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE. UH, YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK. THE, UM, ASPIRATIONAL PART. ABSOLUTELY, YES. EVERYTHING YOU JUST SAID, ESPECIALLY, UM, I'D LIKE YOU GUYS TO ACTUALLY DIG DEEP AS DEEP AS YOU CAN AND OPERATIONAL TO MAKE THINGS, UH, TO GET THAT CHECKLIST. AND WHAT'S NEEDED IS, IS PEOPLE AND FUNDING AND A PLAN, BECAUSE, UH, WE NEED THAT HELP. AND WE NEED TO BE A LOUD VOICE. UH, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT MY SUPPORT. I'VE, I'VE REMINDED STAFF MANY TIMES MYSELF ABOUT ALL THIS. UM, AND I'LL KEEP PLUGGING FOR IT FOR WHAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE DOING, UH, PARTICULARLY YOUR, THE IDEAS OF, UH, WE SHOULD, UH, HAVING A PERSON IN CHARGE OF URBAN FORESTRY AND THEN SAYING, AND THEN THEY ACTUALLY WORK WITH EACH OF THE COMPANIES AND SAY, ARE YOU, ARE YOU DOING THE RIGHT THINGS? UM, AND THEN CANCELING LICENSES IF THEY DON'T, ARE NOT DOING THE RIGHT THING, BECAUSE I'M RECEIVING THESE SAME EMAILS ABOUT THESE LOLLIPOP TREES WHERE, WHERE THE SMALLEST BRANCH NOW IS THIS BIG AROUND. UM, AND THAT'S HOW THEY, THEY'RE NOW TRIMMING THE TREES, VERY CHEAP WAY OF DOING THINGS. UM, AND THEY DO GROW BACK IN LITTLE OPS, AND I KNOW WE NEED TO FIGHT THAT, UH, FOR SURE. SO PLEASE TURN, UH, THE LIST THAT YOU GAVE, I WANT YOU TO, I WANT THE WHOLE TEAM TO OKAY, GET THAT DONE IF YOU CAN, UH, AS FAR AS YOU CAN, AND HOPEFULLY STAFF. AND THEN THE OTHER PART IS IF EVERYONE CAN REALLY TALK TO ALL OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND ONE MORE TIME, AND MAKE SURE, BECAUSE BUDGET'S COMING UP, PRIORITIES ARE HAPPENING, AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS, THIS ITEM GETS PUSHED UP. BECAUSE WHAT I, A COUPLE KICKBACKS WE GET IS, ONE, THE STAFF SAYS, OH, BY THE WAY, UM, IF YOU WANT A TREE FORESTER, THEN WHAT ARE WE GONNA TAKE AWAY FROM? ARE WE GONNA TAKE AWAY A LAWYER? ARE WE GONNA TAKE AWAY, ARE HUMAN RESOURCE PERSON? WE HAVE TO PUT, OKAY, WHAT ARE YOU GONNA TAKE AWAY? SO YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT CITY COUNCIL IS GOING TO BE WILLING TO SAY, HEY, WE CAN JUST DROP, DROP ONE POLICEMAN AND HAVE A WHOLE FORESTRY DEPARTMENT, BASICALLY. UM, IF, IF THAT'S A PRIORITY RIGHT NOW, IT'S, WE'RE PUSHING TOWARD FILLING THE POLICE FORCE A HUNDRED PERCENT. SO YOU GOTTA CONVINCE THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, YES, WE NEED TO CUT BACK SOMEWHERE AND MAKE THIS HAP PART OF THE, UH, HAPPEN. UM, WANNA SUPPORT RELIEF, GREAT JOB, UH, WORKING FORWARD, MOVING FORWARD. I WANNA SUPPORT THEM ALL THE WAY THROUGH. UM, THAT'S ALL HAPPENING THERE. SO, UH, JUST KEEP DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND THANK YOU FOR HANGING IN THERE AND DOING EVERYTHING YOU CAN. UM, I'M OUT THERE. UM, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M OUT THERE PLANTING TREES TOO, TAKING CARE OF STUFF I HELP TAKE CARE OF. UH, ALSO VICE PRESIDENT OF, UH, PETTEN'S ALLIANCE AND DOING ALL SORTS OF WORK ON AT SCHOENBERGER PARK AND ELLIS ALMOND MARSH. SO LET'S MAKE ALL THAT, LET'S KEEP THAT ROLLING AND WE CAN INVITE THE OTHER GROUPS AND EVERYBODY'S DOING SUCH GREAT WORK. PLEASE KEEP ROLLING. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANKS. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER SHRI. AND YES, WE CAN TAKE IT FOR GRANTED THAT WE ALREADY HAVE A BUILT-IN ALLY AT CITY COUNCIL WHO WILL HELP US CHAMPION KIND OF ALL THESE TOPICS. OH, JUST ADD ON, UH, THE TECHNICAL MANUAL, UM, WAS WRITTEN, JUST SO YOU KNOW, HIS HISTORICALLY, THE FOLKS THAT MAY NOT, WASN'T THERE. I WROTE IT, UH, FOR FREE. UH, I, I'M WILLING, I ACTUALLY VOLUNTEERED WRITE IT AGAIN, UH, TO UPGRADE IT. BUT WE NEED, IT WAS WRITTEN SPECIFICALLY FOR THE, UM, THE ORDINANCES THAT WE HAD IN PLACE. I COULDN'T GO PAST THE ACTUAL ORDINANCES AND THE PHILOSOPHY THAT WAS ALREADY IN PLACE. SO THAT'S WHY IT WAS USED IN OLD TECHNICAL MANUAL. AND I UPPED IT FOR PETALUMA, OUR REGULATIONS. AND IT DOES, I AGREE COMPLETELY. UM, UM, WITH THE REPORT THAT YOU JUST GOT, IT NEEDS TO BE UPGRADED, BUT HOW YOU MAKE PUT ALL OF THAT, THE STUFF WE WANT IN THERE, THEN YOU, I ALSO WROTE THE, AN ENCYCLOPEDIA FOR, FOR, IT'S ON THE RELIEF PAGE IF YOU WANNA GO LOOK AT THAT. ALL THAT STUFF NEEDS TO BE PUT IN THERE ALSO. AND THEN THIS IS WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING. THIS IS WHAT'S REQUIRED AND THIS IS WHAT'S RECOMMENDED, AND INCORPORATE THAT WITH THE URBAN FORESTRY PLAN. BUT THOSE ARE DIFF TWO DIFFERENT OP THINGS TO DO. BUT, UM, I'M, I'M ALSO WILLING TO HELP IF YOU NEED IT. BUT YEAH, WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. I THINK WE'RE OVER THREE MINUTES, BUT DEFINITELY NOTED. WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE INPUT AND ALL YOUR HELP AND SUPPORT ALWAYS. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. JOHN. UH, OUR NEXT SPEAKER FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE PATRICK CARTER. HELLO TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. AND HI COLLEEN. GOOD TO SEE YOU. WELL DONE ON THE PRESENTATION. I'M PATRICK CARTER. I'M THE ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF PETALUMA. UM, A LITTLE AWKWARD DOING PUBLIC COMMENT. UM, 'CAUSE I, I FEEL LIKE I'M, I'M COMING HERE WITH GOOD NEWS AND TRYING TO HELP OUT ON THIS AS WELL. UM, OUR, UH, PETALUMA CANOPY GRANT THAT WE HAVE THROUGH THE USDA HAS A TASK THAT INVOLVES [01:15:01] AN URBAN FORESTER, UH, POSITION. SO WE HAVE SOME FUNDING FOR THAT POSITION. SO THAT'S GOOD NEWS, UM, FOR SEVERAL YEARS. SO IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T, FOR, FOR THAT POSITION, IT WOULDN'T BE A CITY EMPLOYEE. IT'D BE A CONTRACT FOR TWO OR THREE YEARS. BUT THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO KIND OF GET THE BALL ROLLING AND FIGURE OUT WHAT SHOULD BE INVOLVED IN THAT POSITION AND, UM, KIND OF GET THE, THE STANDARD OPERATING, UH, PROCEDURES AND SUCH IN PLACE. SO THAT'S ONE BIT OF GOOD NEWS. THE OTHER ONE IS, UM, WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT WORKING GROUPS, MY EARS REALLY PERKED UP. UM, BECAUSE AT THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION AND WITH, UM, UM, A, A BUNCH OF FOLKS, UM, RELATED TO CLIMATE ISSUES, UM, THERE ARE WORKING GROUPS ALREADY AND THERE'S A, UM, CARBON FARMING, UM, WORKING GROUP THAT'S ALREADY ESTABLISHED, ALREADY TALKING ABOUT THINGS. PLANTING TREES IS, IS RIGHT UP THAT ALLEY. UM, AND SO THERE'S GROUPS OUT THERE ALREADY THAT ARE ALREADY THINKING ABOUT THIS, UM, ANYWAY, THAT WANTS TO, IS WELCOME TO, TO JOIN AND PARTICIPATE IN THOSE MEETINGS. IT'S NOT LIKE A CLOSED GROUP OR ANYTHING. EVERYBODY'S WELCOME. I'D BE HAPPY TO SEND INFORMATION, UM, TO DREW SLASH CAT SLASH CATHERINE, WHOEVER, UM, TO GET IT OUT TO, TO LET YOU KNOW WHEN THOSE MEETINGS HAPPEN, WHEN THE NEXT ONE'S HAPPENING, SO THAT IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, UM, IN COORDINATING WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE AT THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE WITH WHAT'S UM, HAPPENING, UM, KIND OF AS LARGER THROUGHOUT THE CITY, YOU'RE DEFINITELY WELCOME TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT. SO, UM, THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU AND I APPRECIATE YOUR FEEDBACK ON THIS PLAN. AND, UM, AND THANKS COLLEEN FOR BEING HERE TODAY. THANK YOU PATRICK. AND WITH THAT, I THINK WE HAVE A LAST MINUTE PUBLIC COMMENT, SO PLEASE, UH, TWO PUBLIC COMMENTS. EXCELLENT. PLEASE, IF YOU JUST SAY YOUR NAME INTO THE MICROPHONE. YES. AND GIVE US THE, MY NAME'S CHARLES LITTLE. I, I WORK WITH RELIEF. AND, UM, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT, UM, WE HAVE A WONDERFUL, WE ARE VERY CLOSE TO A REALLY GREAT URBAN FOREST MANAGEMENT PLAN HERE. AND THAT REALLY GIVES US SOMETHING TO HOLD ONTO. AND THE NEXT STEP, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE. I DON'T THINK IT'S A COMMITTEE. I THINK IT'S LOBBYING. I THINK IT'S WHAT WE ALL HAVE TO DO. WE HAVE TO GO WORK FOR IT. YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT ADVOCATE ADVOCACY IS ALL ABOUT. YOU KNOW, NOT SITTING AROUND AND TALKING ABOUT IT ANYMORE. BECAUSE WE CAN GO IN WITH THIS LIST AND SAY, HERE'S WHAT WE WANT DONE. SIT DOWN WITH EACH COUNCIL MEMBER OR WHOEVER IS THE DECISION MAKER AND TELL 'EM. AND THEN THERE'S OTHER THINGS. OF COURSE, YOU, YOU MATURE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE KIND OF THINGS YOU CAN DO TO GET PUBLIC SUPPORT, BUT THAT'S WHERE THE WORK HAS TO BE. THANK YOU. I AGREE WITH THAT. AND I LOVE THE WORD KALEEN USED OF, OF PRESSURE ON SOME OF THESE ITEMS TO KEEP THAT UP. UH, AND THEN OUR LAST GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, WENDY JACOBS WITH RELIEF I, GREETINGS. HELLO COLLA. I JUST HAD A COUPLE OF POINTS OF INFORMATION THAT I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU. 'CAUSE THE HOUR'S LATE RELIEF HAS LEARNED HOW TO PLANT A THOUSAND TREES A YEAR. AND WE'VE DONE THAT FOR PAST TWO YEARS. WE WILL NOT HIT THAT NUMBER THIS YEAR BECAUSE WE ARE DOING DELIBERATELY HI KAT TREES IN VERY HARD AREAS. WE CALL IT THE ORANGE BLOB. THAT'S THE HOT AREA IN MIDTOWN, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN THE RIVER AND THE 1 0 1, WHICH IS BOTH HOT AND POLLUTED FROM THE CAR TRAFFIC. AND IT'S VERY, VERY HARD AND TIME CONSUMING TO GET TREES IN THAT AREA. BUT WE ARE MAKING SIGNIFICANT HEADWAY. THIS YEAR. WE WILL PLANT MORE THAN 500 TOTAL, BUT WE WON'T HIT A THOUSAND. IT'S PRETTY HARD TO PLANT A THOUSAND TREES A YEAR. UM, BUT WE, WE HAVE DONE IT TWICE. WE KNOW HOW TO DO IT AND WE KNOW WHAT IT COSTS. SO THAT INFORMA, YOU KNOW, THAT HAS BEEN WORKED OUT AND IT, I THINK IT'S REALISTIC. THE OTHER PIECE OF UNRELATED INFORMATION I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU IS THAT WE JUST RECEIVED ONE OF THE HEALTHY PETALUMA GRANTS THAT WE'RE JUST ANNOUNCED ROUND TWO. AND WE WILL BE USING THAT GRANT TO DO A STUDY AND, AND PRODUCE A ROADMAP OF THE COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL AND 1 0 1 FRINGE AREAS IN TOWN, WHICH WE THINK ARE THE MOST NEEDY, DIFFICULT AREAS, UM, TO, SO THAT IN FUTURE YEAR IT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME, BUT SO THAT IN FUTURE YEARS WE CAN FIG, WE WILL KNOW WHERE TO GO AND HOW TO PLANT TREES THERE. SO IT WILL INCLUDE OWNERSHIP, SOME INITIAL OUTREACH TO SOME OF THAT OWNERSHIP, WHICH WE THINK IS A LOT OF, UM, INVESTORS AND SHOPPING CENT BIG. IF YOU CAN PICTURE THE BIG PARKING LOTS, I JUST [01:20:01] WANTED TO FINISH UP BY SHARING THAT INFORMATION WITH YOU. THAT'S HOT OFF THE PRESS. WE HAVEN'T ANNOUNCED IT YET, BUT WE'RE VERY HOPEFUL ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR YOUR WORK. WELL THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE UPDATE, WENDY. AND OF COURSE, AGAIN, IT'S EASY TO TAKE FOR GRANTED THAT WE HAVE SUCH GREAT ALLIES. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THAT GROW SECTION OF KALA'S PLAN, THERE'S ONE GROUP THAT CAME TO MIND THAT I KNOW CAN HELP US, UH, REALLY BIGLY IN THAT REGARD. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. WITH THAT, I WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM. AND JUST IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I'LL JUST LOOK AROUND THE ROOM. WOULD IT MAKE SENSE FOR OUR GROUP? I'M THINKING, YOU KNOW, OVER THE NEXT YEAR ESPECIALLY OUR ROLE CAN REALLY CENTER AROUND THESE ACTION ITEMS PRESENTED. AND MAYBE AT OUR NEXT MEETING WE HAVE A DISCUSSION OF REALLY HOW OUR GROUP CAN BREAK THIS UP INTO DIFFERENT WORKING GROUPS. AND WE JUST GO FORWARD AND START CHECKING SOME OF THESE BOXES. DIANE SAYS, YES, PLEASE. DOES THAT SOUND LIKE A GOOD IDEA FOR FEBRUARY? OKAY. 'CAUSE I WOULD LOVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN DIVIDE THIS UP AND USE THE WEIGHT ATTACK. IT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA, BUT OUR MEETING MIGHT BE COUNCIL. AND GIVEN WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER REB SAID ABOUT THE PRIORITY SESSION COMING UP SOON, I WONDER IF WE CAN DISCUSS RIGHT NOW AND DECIDE RIGHT NOW WHETHER OUR CHAIR HAS THE POWER TO WRITE A LETTER TO COUNCIL SAYING WE WOULD LIKE, YOU KNOW, SOME FUNDING FORMALLY EXPLORED SUCH AS KEYS FOR TREES, SUCH AS, UM, APPROPRIATING MONEY, SOME OTHER WAY TO GET, UM, THE TECHNICAL MANUAL UPDATE. BUT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN GET ROLLING NOW. BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW IF OUR MEETING'S GONNA HAPPEN OR NOT. I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I'M DEFINITELY HAPPY TO WRITE THAT LETTER. UH, JUST SUPPORTING COLLEEN'S WORK, ADVOCATING FOR MOVING RESOURCES IN THAT DIRECTION. I'LL TURN TO STAFF. I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY I CAN'T WRITE AS CHAIR OF TREE COMMITTEE. HERE'S WHAT I WANT TO ADVOCATE FOR. CORRECT. UM, I ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. I DO NEED TO DEFER TO DREW. I'D BE HAPPY TO TOUCH BASE WITH HIM AND HAVE HIM CIRCLE BACK. WHY DON'T I EMAIL DREW AND DYLAN, UH, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY DYLAN BRADY AND JUST SAY, CAN I WRITE A LETTER SUPPORTING AND ADVOCATING FOR RESOURCES TO BE MOVED TOWARD ACCOMPLISHING THE STRATEGIES AND GOALS LAID OUT IN OUR DRAFT URBAN FORESTRY MANAGEMENT PLAN? UM, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT NEXT STEP. THIS IS FOR THE PRIORITY SETTING MEETING, WHICH HAPPENS EVERY YEAR, FEBRUARY OR MARCH, WHERE THE CITY COUNCIL HAS TO CHOOSE 10 PRIORITIES. AND IF THEY, IT DOESN'T MAKE THE LIST, IT'S, IT'S VERY UNLIKELY TO HAPPEN. I DON'T WANNA, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF DIFFERENT FORMAT. NOW. LAST YEAR THEY DIDN'T DO JUST A TOP 10. THERE WAS KIND OF A SUMMARY OF A LOT OF PRIORITIES, BUT I, WE DEFINITELY NEED TO ADVOCATE IN THAT PERIOD. NEEDLESS TO SAY, LIKE I SHOWED UP LAST YEAR AND ADVOCATED FOR THE URBAN FORESTRY MANAGEMENT PLAN. WE'LL DO THAT AGAIN. I WOULD SAY EVERYONE ON THIS COMMITTEE CAN DO THE SAME. THAT'S NOT LIMITED BY JUST HAVING, BUT I DO WANT TO SPEND SOME TIME, 'CAUSE I THINK I'M GONNA BE OPTIMISTIC AND THINK WE HAVE A MEETING IN FEBRUARY TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE CAN MORE PERMANENTLY DEFINE TAC ROLES IN KEEPING THINGS LIKE THE TREE TECHNICAL MANUAL UPDATED AND AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC. HOW DO WE AGGREGATE OTHER INFORMATION FOR THE PUBLIC? I THINK THERE ARE OTHER IMPLEMENTATION STEPS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT WE COULD FORM GROUPS TO HELP INFORM AND HAVE LIKE AN ORGANIZED VOICE BEHIND. AND THEN SMALLER PARTS OF TAC CAN GO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH WENDY AND CHARLES OR WITH JOHN AND START MOVING THESE ITEMS FORWARD, PRESENT BACK TO TREE COMMITTEE AND KIND OF DIVIDE AND CONQUER ON SOME OF THESE. SO I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, LET'S GET AFTER IT NOW AND MAKE THIS A PRIORITY. BUT I WANNA ALSO JUST GET THAT BUY-IN FROM THIS TEAM THAT WE CAN START, UH, IN FEBRUARY REALLY FORMALIZING OUR WORKING GROUPS TO, TO MAKE THIS A LITTLE MORE PERMANENT. AND STEPHANIE, I SAW YOU WERE ABOUT TO, YOU WANNA JUMP IN? YEAH, I, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR, UH, SOME SPECIFICS ABOUT THE, THE, THE CITY'S THE MECHANICS OF HOW THINGS WORK IN A TOWN LIKE MONTEREY WHERE THE TREES AND THE SIDEWALKS AND ALL OF THAT IS COORDINATED AND IT'S BEAUTIFUL. AND YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT BEFORE. LIKE WHAT DO THEY DO OR WHAT, WHAT, WHAT'S IN PLACE NOW THAT YOU MIGHT, YOU MIGHT, THAT WE MIGHT LEARN FROM IN, IN, IN THOSE TOWNS WHERE IT'S WHAT'S WORKING? JUST, JUST, YEAH. NO, I THINK JUST IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, IS THIS SOMETHING, UM, STEPHANIE OR COLLEEN, UM, IS THIS SOMETHING YOU GUYS COULD CONNECT WITH MAYBE OVER EMAIL OR HAVE A DISCUSSION OR STEPHANIE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE PART OF THE URBAN FORESTRY WORKING GROUP. I, I AM. YEAH. SO, UM, MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A DISCUSSION ON AND THEN YOU COULD BRING THAT BACK TO UM, T. OKAY. GOOD ENOUGH. YEAH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE, 'CAUSE I THINK THAT'S A QUESTION A LOT OF US HAVE BECAUSE MM-HMM . LIKE I SAID, I DO WANNA MAKE SURE WE MOVE THROUGH. DIANE, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANNA ADD? YEAH, PLEASE. UM, GOING BACK TO EVE'S POINT, I WONDER IF, WHAT ARE THE STEPS TO CREATE A MORATORIUM RIGHT AWAY FOR ANY FURTHER PRUNING OF TREES BEYOND, YOU KNOW, THE NECESSARY OR WHAT IT IS? I DON'T KNOW. HOW DOES THAT GET STARTED? [01:25:01] AND CAN WE DO IT BEFORE SPRING WHEN ALL THESE TREES ARE GETTING CUT? LET'S MAKE THAT A QUESTION WE BRING FOR DISCUSSION AT OUR NEXT MEETING. 'CAUSE I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. IT IS. THERE HAVE BEEN STREET TREE MORATORIUMS IN THE PAST WITH VARYING LEVELS OF SUCCESS AND SOME CONFUSION AROUND IT. SO MM-HMM . THAT'S A GOOD ONE TO BRING UP. I THINK, UH, EVE YOUR POINT WILL BE CARRIED FORWARD. I THINK THIS IS AN AREA FOR MORE DISCUSSION, BUT I DO WANT TO CLOSE THIS ITEM AND MAKE SURE WE AT LEAST GET A COUPLE NOTES ON OUR FINAL ITEM, WHICH IS RECOMMENDATION FOR ARBOR DAY AND TREE FEST CELEBRATION. I'LL JUST GIVE A QUICK PREAMBLE. KAT, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO OH, PREFACE THIS? OH, I JUST WANNA, IF DEPENDING ON THE, THE QUICK TIME, YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION TO BUMP THIS AGENDA ITEM TO NEXT MONTH IF YOU'D LIKE TO, OR I JUST WANNA GET A QUICK READ BECAUSE DEPENDING ON WHEN WE SELECT, WE'RE ALREADY RUNNING OUTTA TIME TO PLAN FOR SOMETHING'S FIVE O'CLOCK A HARD STOP. I DON'T THINK SO. IT'S, IT IS A HARD STOP IN TERMS OF STAFF TIME, BUT I JUST WANNA KNOW, WE HAVE OBVIOUSLY THE PAST TWO YEARS WE'VE DONE A TREE FEST IN COORDINATION WITH ARBOR DAY. SO TODAY I JUST WANNA FIGURE OUT IF THIS GROUP WANTS TO DO, DO THE CALIFORNIA STATE ARBOR DAY OR THE NATIONAL ARBOR DAY. THE MAIN DIFFERENCE BEING THE CALIFORNIA STATE I BELIEVE IS MARCH 13TH. UH, WHEREAS THE NATIONAL IS FEBRUARY 26TH I BELIEVE, OR EXCUSE ME, APRIL 24TH. UH, APRIL 24TH, WE USUALLY GO WITH THE NATIONAL 'CAUSE IT GIVES US A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME AND TO DO A CELEBRATION. LOOKING AROUND THE ROOM, DOES EVERYONE, ANYONE HAVE A SPECIFIC OPINION OR ARE WE COMFORTABLE GOING WITH THE FEDERAL DATE OF APRIL 24TH? DARREN, AM I ALLOWED TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THIS ? UH, SURE COLLEEN. WELL OUR PLAN IS TO BRING THIS YOUR URBAN FORCE MANAGEMENT PLAN TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON MARCH 15TH OR 14TH, WHATEVER DAY THAT MEETING IS. AND WE HAD HOPED TO PLAN A PLANTING WITH YOU ALL AND RELIEF TO CELEBRATE THAT, WHETHER IT WAS BIG OR SMALL. AND IT JUST HAPPENS TO LINE UP WITH THE CALIFORNIA ARBOR DAY. SO IF THAT MIGHT LEAD YOU INTO A DIFFERENT DIRECTION, WE WOULD LOVE TO BE PARTICIPANTS IN THAT. TO MARK THE UFMP UM DELIVERY, I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THEN HERE TO DO BOTH BECAUSE THE OTHER ITEM WITH AN ARBOR DAY CELEBRATION LAST YEAR WE DID A TREE COMMITTEE'S RUN TREE FEST. UH, BUT THERE WAS ALSO THE FUTURE FEST, WHICH PETALUMA PUTS ON, WHICH IS A LOT OF DIFFERENT GROUPS COMING TOGETHER TO CELEBRATE A LOT OF THE SAME ENVIRONMENTAL THEMES. UH, THIS YEAR THERE WILL BE A FUTURE FEST ON MAY 3RD, 2026. AND I'M ALREADY CAN TELL WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO HAVE ENOUGH DISCUSSION THAT THIS REALLY WARRANTS. SO I WILL JUST ASK PEOPLE TO THINK ABOUT FOR NEXT MEETING, THINK ABOUT WHAT DATE WE WANT TO HAVE A DECLARATION OF CELEBRATING ARBOR DAY. AND THEN AS A TREE COMMITTEE, AS A FORMAL CITY BODY, WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO TO CELEBRATE, UH, DO WE WANT TO DO OUR OWN KIND OF TREE FEST LIKE WE DID THE PAST TWO YEARS? DO WE WANT TO COLLABORATE AND BE PART OF THE LARGER FUTURE FEST OR DO WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING LIKE A TREE PLANTING? WHICH IN THE YEARS PRIOR, THAT'S WHAT WE HAD ALWAYS DONE. WE HAD PICKED A PARK AND DONE A TREE PLANTING A LITTLE MORE INFORMAL. YOU DON'T HAVE TO ORGANIZE MUSIC AND ALL THAT. UM, SO JUST THINK ABOUT WHAT KIND OF CELEBRATION WE WANT TO DO AS TAC AND WHEN WE WANT TO DO THAT CELEBRATION. I THINK KALA THREW IN SOME BRAND NEW VARIABLE THERE. 'CAUSE WE DEFINITELY WANT TO PARTICIPATE TO CELEBRATE LIKE THE TIMING OF CALIFORNIA ARBOR DAY AND THE DRAFT OF THE URBAN FORESTRY MANAGEMENT PLAN COMING BEFORE COUNCIL. BUT YOU KNOW, I THINK WE COULD PARTICIPATE IN THAT KIND OF TREE PLANTING AND THEN STILL DO SOMETHING ELSE, UH, ON THE NATIONAL ARBOR DAY. MORE IN LIKE THE APRIL TIMEFRAME OR IN THE CASE OF FUTURE FEST WOULD BE MAY 3RD. SO I WANT PEOPLE TO START THINKING ABOUT THAT IF YOU WANT TO BE PART OF PLANNING SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WE USUALLY HAVE AN AD HOC RELATED TO THIS EVENT. SO THINK ABOUT IF YOU WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN PLANNING THAT KIND OF EVENT. UH, AND THEN WE CAN AGENDIZE THAT. SHOULD WE TAKE A VOTE TO BUMP THAT TO NEXT MEETING, KAT? OR IS IT JUST A STRAW POLL? OKAY. TO BUMP THAT TO NEXT MEETING. I THINK YOU'VE DISCUSSED SOME OF IT TO COVER IT FOR THIS MEETING. AND THEN WE CAN JUST ADD IT AS AN AGENDA ITEM FOR NEXT MONTH. GREAT. THEN WE'LL ADD IT AS A MORE FORMAL ITEM FOR NEXT MONTH. WE'RE JUST AT FIVE O'CLOCK. UH, I WILL [COMMITTEE COMMENT] FOREGO COMMITTEE COMMENT 'CAUSE I THINK WE'VE HAD A LOT OF GOOD DISCUSSION. KAT, IS THERE [STAFF COMMENT] ANYTHING FROM THE STAFF SIDE? DO YOU WANT TO ADD, UH, TWO PIECES OF GOOD NEWS VERY QUICKLY? THANK YOU ALL FOR HELPING ME ON THE ME MY MEETING. THAT'S NOT ONE OF THE GOOD NEWS, THE GOOD NEWS. WELL THAT IS GOOD NEWS, . ANOTHER GOOD NEWS IS, UH, THE APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED FOR TREE CITY USA. IT IS IN THE REGIONAL REVIEW. UM, SO SPECIAL THANK YOU TO MANAGEMENT ANALYST NICOLE STARK FOR HELPING WITH THAT. AND THEN, UM, WHILE THAT IS REALLY EXCITING, I AM REALLY, REALLY EXCITED TO ANNOUNCE THAT UH, JEN SANTOS HAS ACCEPTED THE POSITION OF SUPERINTENDENT OF PARKS AND OPEN SPACES, WHICH WILL BE STARTING HERE FOR CITY OF PETALUMA A COUPLE OF WEEKS. SHE COMES FROM THE CITY OF SANTA ROSA. SHE HAS A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE BACKGROUND, A LOT OF PARK PLANNING, UM, VERY LONG [01:30:01] STANDING INDIVIDUAL, LOCAL TO THE REGION. AND WE ARE VERY EXCITED TO HAVE HER. SO SHE WILL BE MAYBE COMING BY NEXT MONTH. IT DEPENDS ON THE, UH, HIRING PLAN AND TIMELINE. BUT, UH, SHE'S OFFICIALLY ACCEPTED AND WE ARE REALLY EXCITED TO, UH, WELCOME HER INTO THAT SUPERINTENDENT ROLE, WHICH AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, UM, SUPPORTS THIS COMMITTEE DIRECTLY. UM, AND ALSO, UM, DOES A LOT OF WORK THAT KIND OF CROSS LINES WITH THE VISION AND VALUES SUPPORTED HERE TONIGHT. SO WHERE'S DREW GOING? UH, THAT'S NOT DREW'S POSITION. THIS, THIS POSITION REPORTS DIRECTLY TO DREW. UH, THIS POSITION WAS CINDY'S YES. CINDY'S VACANCY. YES. THANK YOU. SO THANK YOU. WELL, FANTASTIC NEWS. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT UPDATE. AND WITH THAT WE WILL ADJOURN OUR MEETING AT 5:02 PM CHAIR. THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR THE DISCUSSION. EXCUSE ME, CHAIR. SORRY. I DON'T KNOW. ITEM NUMBER ONE. APPROVAL. WE [APPROVAL OF MINUTES] WANTED TO JUST, IF NOBODY HAD CHANGES TO THE MINUTES OR WE COULD BUMP THEM. I FORGOT ITEM ONE AND WE KEPT BUMPING IT. DOES ANYONE WANT TO CHANGE MINUTES FROM LAST MEETING? HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, CONCERNS ABOUT THE MINUTES? I THINK THEY LOOK GREAT. NO. FANTASTIC. SO DEEMED AS APPROVED. AS APPROVED. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR KEEPING US ON TRACK, CATHERINE. AND WITH THAT, WITH MINUTES APPROVED, WE WILL ADJOURN OUR MEETING AT 5 0 2. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.