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GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE FOR THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 26TH, 2026.
UM, I WOULD ASK THE CLERK TO PLEASE TAKE A ROLE COMMITTEE MEMBER COLD IRON ABSENT COMMITTEE MEMBER KM HERE.
AND TODAY WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT OUR CITY OF PETALUMA COMMITTEE WORK INVOLVES THE UNSEATED LAND THAT IS THE ANCESTRAL HOMELANDS OF THE COAST.
WE WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS OUR GRATITUDE AND APPRECIATION TO THOSE WHO STEWARDED AND CONTINUE TO STEWARD THIS LAND.
WE PAY OUR RESPECTS TO THE PAST, PRESENT, AND EMERGING ELDERS AND CITIZENS OF THE COMMUNITY OF THE COAST.
ME WALK HERE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO AMEND THE ROLL CALL TO INCLUDE COMMITTEE MEMBER MEYER? THANK YOU.
DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON ITEMS OF PUBLIC INTEREST THAT ARE WITHIN THE COMMITTEE'S SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION AND THAT ARE NOT LISTED ON THE CURRENT AGENDA.
PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED UP TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON.
DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF PERSONS WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE.
TIME WILL BE ALLOCATED IN EQUAL SHARES TOTALING NO MORE THAN 15 MINUTES.
I WOULD OPEN THE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT AND ASK SPEAKERS TO BRING THEIR CARDS TO THE CLERK'S DESK IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY.
HAVE YOU RECEIVED ANY, UH, COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING? WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING.
I WILL CALL ON THE IN-PERSON PUBLIC SPEAKERS IN TURN.
UM, UNTIL ALL HAVE SPOKEN THAT WISH TO ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THIS POINT, I DON'T SEE ANY.
THEN I WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AND CONTINUE WITH AGENDA.
BUT BEFORE WE MOVED INTO PRESENTATIONS, I JUST WANTED TO SAY HELLO.
SO, UM, THIS IS GONNA BE A REALLY FUN MEETING, UM, PREDOMINANTLY REGARDING THE SKATE PARK.
AND, UM, WITHOUT THAT, LET'S GET UNDERWAY.
THERE ARE NO PRESENTATION ITEMS TODAY, SO I'M CLOSING THAT ITEM ON THE AGENDA
[PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION]
AND CONTINUING, UM, ALONG TO PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION.UM, ITEM NUMBER ONE IS DIS DISCUSSION SELECTION OF ARTISTS FOR THE LUCCHESE SKATE PARK PUBLIC ART CONTRACT.
AND I'M INVITING PUBLIC ART SPECIALISTS, MELISSA ABERCROMBIE, TO PRESENT ON MEETING ONE.
I DID EVERYTHING BUT TEST MY MIC.
MELISSA, THANK YOU ALL FOR JOINING US THIS EVENING.
UM, THE LUC CASEY SKATE PARK IS A REALLY UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO TALKING ABOUT IT WITH YOU ALL.
UM, TO START THIS CONVERSATION, I WANNA FIRST THANK THE 34 APPLICANTS THAT APPLIED FOR THIS PROJECT.
IT'S A PRETTY OVERWHELMING AMOUNT AND IT WAS INCREDIBLY BEAUTIFUL TO SEE THE VARIETY OF VISIONS PEOPLE HAVE FOR THIS SITE.
UM, WE HAD A VARIETY OF TYPES OF PEOPLE APPLY OF MULTIPLE AGES, DIFFERENT GROUPS.
IT REALLY FELT LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE THOUGHT VERY BROADLY AND BEAUTIFULLY ABOUT HOW OUR COMMUNITY COULD BE REFLECTED IN THIS PROJECT.
SO I WANNA THANK EVERYONE AND JUST REALLY, UM, SHARE HOW GRATEFUL WE ARE AND I WILL LOAD UP THE PRESENTATION JUST A MOMENT.
SO THE LUC CASEY SKATE PARK PUBLIC ART PROJECT HAS, UM, HAD A REALLY INTERESTING TIMELINE SINCE 2023.
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TONIGHT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT, UM, THE PROJECT ITSELF, OUR CRITERIA, OUR COMMITTEE SCORING, OUR TOP SCORING PROPOSALS, AND WE'LL HAVE A DISCUSSION.THE ESE SKATE PARK PROJECT BEGAN IN 2023 WITH COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, SITE ANALYSIS, CITY COUNCIL SUPPORT, AND MEETINGS AMONGST THE COMMISSIONS, BOARDS AND COMMITTEES.
WE OURSELVES AT PUBLIC ART, WERE EARLY, EARLY COMMITTEES TO SEE THE PROJECT AND START THE DISCUSSIONS.
THERE WERE LARGE COMMUNITY WORKSHOPS THAT REACHED OUT TO HEAR WHAT PEOPLE WANTED TO SEE IN A SKATE PARK, WHAT KIND OF FEATURES, WHAT KIND OF APPLICATIONS WHERE IT WOULD EXIST.
AND SO IN THE BEGINNING, THIS CONVERSATION LOOKED AT SITES THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY.
AND 2024, THE PROJECTS STARTED TO TAKE FORM.
WE HAD A COMMUNITY WORKSHOP, IT WENT TO THE TREE COMMITTEE AND WE BEGAN OUR PRE-CONSTRUCTION CHECKLIST.
THE PROJECT THEN WAS MOVING TOWARDS LUCCHESE PARK, PARTICULARLY THE UNINCORPORATED AREA OF LUCCHESE PARK THAT'S IN BETWEEN THE SOCCER FIELDS, THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, AND, UM, AND THE TENNIS COURTS IN 2025, SORRY, LEMME JUST CLOSE THIS.
IN 2025, PRE PRE-CONSTRUCTION BIDDING CONTINUED, UM, THE BID FOR CONSTRUCTION AND THE, UM, COUNCIL, CITY COUNCIL SAW PRESENTATION OF THE CURRENT PROPOSAL THAT'S BEEN MOVED FORWARD BY GRID LINE SKATE PARKS OR SKATE DESIGNS.
UM, THE RRFP OPENED IN DECEMBER OF 2025 AND REMAINED OPEN UNTIL FEBRUARY 4TH.
WE DID HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH THE RFP, UM, PEOPLE'S APPLICATIONS THROUGH THE CITY'S FORMS. UM, SOME TYPES OF FILES WEREN'T EASY TO UPLOAD, SO WE EXTENDED THE RFP PERIOD THROUGH TO FEBRUARY 4TH JUST TO ACCOMMODATE THAT.
WE ALSO SENT OUT COMMUNICATIONS THROUGH THE CITY'S SOCIAL MEDIA CHANNELS AND COMMUNITY UPDATES TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT IF THEY HADN'T HAD THEIR PROJECT CONFIRMED, PLEASE INTERACT DIRECTLY WITH ME AND I WOULD HELP SUPPORT THE UPLOAD OF THEIR FILES, HOWEVER, WAS NEEDED.
THIS BECAME A VERY INTERESTING PROCESS OF OVER A HUNDRED DOCUMENTS, UM, COMING IN, IN A VARIETY OF WAYS.
AND SO WE ALSO HAD A LITTLE BIT OF ISSUE WITH HOW YOU GUYS WOULD REVIEW THEM.
AND SO WE SET THEM UP THROUGH ONE CL ONE DRIVE SO EVERY COMMITTEE MEMBER COULD REVIEW THE EIGHT TO 10, UM, ITEMS, PDFS THAT WERE REQUIRED FOR EACH OF THE 32, UM, AGREED TO, OR, UM, I'M SORRY, APPLICABLE APPLICATIONS.
HERE WE SEE THE WALLS OF THE SKATE PARK.
WE HAVE 14 LOCATIONS FOR A TOTAL OF 335 SQUARE FEET FOR THE LU KC SKATE PARK.
IT'S GONNA BE A 23,000 SQUARE FOOT LOCATION WITH A VARIETY OF SKATING OPTIONS.
THE VERTICAL WALLS RAGE IN SIZE FROM 12 FEET LONG AND FIVE FEET TALL TO MIRROR INCHES.
SO IT'S A VERY COMPLICATED, UM, PROJECT TO DESIGN FOR.
AND AS A RESULT, WE SAW SUBMISSIONS COME IN WITH THIS EXACT LAYOUT ALL THE WAY TO PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, PRETTY MUCH DRAWING IT ON PAPER AND TAPING IT TO A WALL AND SENDING PICTURES.
SO IT WAS A VARIETY OF SKILLSET AND ADAPTING THEIR APPLICATIONS, BUT IT, IT WAS REALLY OVERWHELMINGLY BEAUTIFUL BACKGROUND ON THE PUBLIC ART FEE AND MASTER PLAN.
UM, WE ARE COMMITTED TO ENRICHING PUBLIC SPACES BY INTEGRATING ART THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, THE PUBLIC ART FUND.
AND, AND THE PUBLIC ART PROGRAM IS FUNDED THROUGH A 1% IN LIEU FEE ON NON-RESIDENTIAL AND SELECT PUBLIC WORK PROJECTS WITH CONSTRUCTED COSTS OVER CONSTRUCTION COSTS OVER 500,000.
THIS APPLIES TO CITY PROJECTS AS WELL, THOUGH ESE SKATE PARK MURAL COMMISSION IS SUPPORTED BY, IN LIEU FEES GENERATED FROM THE SKATE PARK PROJECT ITSELF.
WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO INCORPORATING PUBLIC ART INTO THE SKATE PARK DESIGN.
OUR GOALS AS A COMMUNITY, AS WE'VE IDENTIFIED IN THE PUBLIC ART MASTER PLAN, INCLUDE MAINTAINING A COHERENT STYLE AND INVOKING FEELINGS OF ACTIVE, FUN POSSESSING, MULTI-LAYERED MEANINGS, BEAUTY AND OTHER COMPELLING ATTRIBUTES THAT THIS, THAT ARTWORKS BE APPROPRIATE FOR PUBLIC SPACES, INVISIBLE TO ALL PERSONS, THAT THEY BE DURABLE, SAFE, AND LOW MAINTENANCE.
THAT THEY CONSIDER THE SKATE COMMUNITY AND THE CULTURE IN PROJECT DESIGN, AND THAT THEY PROVIDE OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSERVED AND EMERGING ARTISTS.
WE DEVELOPED A CRITERIA THAT WAS BASED ON WHAT IS OUTLINED IN OUR ORDINANCE
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AND MASTER PLAN.WE ARE LOOKING FOR ARTISTIC EXCELLENCE, ORIGINALITY, AND INNOVATION AS APPARENT IN THE QUALITY OF THE PROPOSAL FOR THE PROJECT.
WE ARE LOOKING FOR APPROPRIATENESS OF THE ARTIST'S PROPOSED MEDIUM STYLE AND PROJECT CONCEPTS FOR THE PROPOSED SITE, LOCATION AND SURROUNDINGS, DEMONSTRATED UNDERSTANDING AND INCORPORATION OF THE STATED GOALS OF THE PROJECT.
THE PROPOSED ARTWORK SHOULD BE SUITABLE FOR PERMANENT OUTDOOR PLACEMENT AND ADDRESS DURABILITY, MAINTENANCE AND PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERNS.
THIS INCLUDES TECHNICAL DESIGN PARAMETERS, COMPLIANT WITH ALL APPLICABLE BUILDING CODE REQUIREMENTS.
SO AS THIS IS A MURAL, IT'S, THAT'S NOT GONNA BE TOO TRIGGERING, BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE, WE LOOK TOWARDS.
THE PROPOSED ARTWORK SHOULD BE AN EFFECTIVE BALANCE OF SIZE AND SCOPE OF DESIGN CHOICE MATERIALS AND ENSURE THAT THE FINISHED PRODUCT IS A SUFFICIENT, IS OF SUFFICIENT PROMINENCE TO THE SITE AND SURROUNDING WILL EFFECTIVELY MEETING PROJECT REQUIREMENTS AND GOALS.
THE PROPOSAL CONSIDERS HOW COLLABORATION WITH STAKEHOLDERS, GROUPS, AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH WILL OCCUR.
AND WE LOOK TOWARDS AT LEAST ONE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT OPPORTUNITY THAT MUST BE INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSAL.
WE ARE LOOKING FOR DEMONSTRATED SENSITIVITY TO ADDRESS THE POTENTIAL IMPACT OF THE PROJECT ON THE PUBLIC.
WE ARE LOOKING TOWARDS THE AVAILABILITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE DESIGN APPROVAL AND IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PROJECT AND COMPLETE THE PROJECT WITHIN A TIMELINE.
AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE ANTICIPATE, UM, THAT THE SKATE PARK WILL HAVE, UM, CONSTRUCTION COMPLETED BY THE END OF THIS YEAR.
IT'S STILL, WE HAVE ABOUT TWO MONTHS OFF WHAT OUR ORIGINAL TIMELINE WAS.
SO IT'S, IT'S KIND OF, IT'S IN BID PROCESS RIGHT NOW.
THEY HAVEN'T SELECTED THE CONSTRUCTION PARTNER AS FAR AS I'VE BEEN TOLD AS OF A COUPLE DAYS AGO.
AND SO, UM, WE'RE REALLY WAITING FOR THAT.
AND THEN WE'LL START MOVING TOWARDS THE FINISHED PRODUCT APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS.
SO WE HAD A LOT OF REQUIREMENTS WE WERE LOOKING TO SEE OF THE APPLICATIONS.
WE WANTED A PROPOSED CONCEPT, WHICH WOULD BE A DESIGN DRAWING RENDERING OR MARQUETTE TO THAT WAS SUFFICIENT TO CONVEY THE PROJECT ITSELF.
WE WERE LOOKING FOR A LETTER OF INTEREST OUTLINING THE ARTIST'S TEAM INTEREST IN THE PROJECT, ALONG WITH THEIR FULL DETAILS OF WHO'S PARTICIPATING AND HOW TO CONTACT THE ARTIST OR TEAM.
WE WERE LOOKING FOR AN ARTIST'S STATEMENT TO DESCRIBE THE WORK WE WERE LOOKING FOR A RESUME THAT DEMONSTRATED THAT THEY HAD EXPERIENCE, BUT IT WASN'T REQUIRED BECAUSE WE WERE LOOKING FOR ARTISTS, UM, OR APPLICANTS AGE 16 AND UP.
AND WE WANTED TO BE CONSIDERATE THAT THEY MAY NOT HAVE EXPERIENCE AND WE WERE OPEN TO THAT.
WE WERE LOOKING FOR WORK SAMPLES, THREE TO FIVE IMAGES OF NON-AI GENERATED ORIGINAL WORKS THAT COULD DEMONSTRATE THAT THEY WERE CAPABLE OF PRODUCING THE ART THEY HAD DESIGNED.
WE WERE LOOKING FOR TWO REFERENCES AND OUR ELIGIBILITY INCLUDED THAT THEY WOULD BE A CALIFORNIA BASED ARTIST OR TEAM OVER AGE 16.
AND THAT, UM, PUBLIC ART EXPERIENCE WAS NOT REQUIRED.
AND THEY MUST IN BEING AWARDED THE CONTRACT COMPLY WITH CITY INSURANCE LIABILITY REQUIREMENTS AND ANY OTHER SELECT REQUIREMENTS OUTLINED IN THE RFP COMMISSION SCORING.
SO WHEN WE DEVELOP THE SCORE SHEET, THERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF THE SCORE SHEET AND THE, UM, AND THE AGENDA THAT'S AVAILABLE ON THE CITY'S, UM, AGENDAS AND MEETINGS PAGE.
SO YOU'RE WELCOME TO VISIT THERE AND FIND OUR ACTUAL SCORING SHEET.
EXAMPLE, WE HAD RULES THAT THE CRITERION WAS SCORED ON A SCALE OF ONE TO FIVE WITH TOTAL SCORES USED TO SUPPORT THE RANKING AND DECISIONS.
AND DISCUSSION THAT IS BEING PERFORMED BY THE COMMITTEE TONIGHT.
THE CRITERIA ARE YOUR SHARED LANGUAGE.
DURING THIS DISCUSSION, WE ARE LOOKING, THE CRITERIA AS OUTLINED WERE SEVEN ITEMS THAT WE FELT COMBINED, WHAT WAS IN THE PUBLIC ART ORDINANCE AND GOALS, ARTISTIC EXCELLENCE, OVERALL QUALITY OF WORK, INCLUDING SKILL COMPOSITION AND VISUAL IMPACT ORIGINALITY, STRENGTH AND UNIQUENESS, UNIQUENESS OF CONCEPT, INCLUDING WHETHER IT FEELS FRESH AND NOT DERIVATIVE SKATE CULTURE, HOW WELL IT REPRESENTS AND REFLECTS THE SKATE PARK USERS CULTURE AND ENERGY OF THE SITE.
APPROPRIATENESS, SUITABILITY FOR A HIGHLY VISIBLE PUBLIC SPACE AND BROAD COMMUNITY AUDIENCE.
ENGAGEMENT, QUALITY AND FEASIBILITY OF AT LEAST ONE MEANINGFUL COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ACTIVITY.
MEANINGFULNESS THE DEPTH OF CONCEPT AND ABILITY TO COMMUNICATE.
LAYERED MEANING BEYOND SURFACE AESTHETICS, FUN, ACTIVE SENSE OF MOVEMENT, VIBRANCY AND ACTIVE, FUN ALIGNED WITH, ALIGNED WITH THE PROJECT GOALS.
NOW MANY OF THESE ARE PRETTY SUBJECTIVE WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT EVERYTHING.
SO EVERY JUDGE KIND OF HAD DIFFERENT IDEAS OF WHAT THEY FELT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THE SITE, AND IT WAS REALLY FUN TO SEE.
THERE WAS A LOT OF RECURRING ARTISTS,
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BUT OVERALL, UM, I LOOKED AT THE TOP FIVE BECAUSE SOME OF YOU HAD MATCH LIKE SCORES THAT WERE IDENTICAL FOR YOUR TOP THREE.AND, UH, ONE OF YOU, TANNER, YOUR LAST ONE HAD A TIE FOR FIFTH PLACE.
SO I HAD TO DO SIX FOR YOURS, BUT I ENDED UP, THERE WAS REDUNDANCIES AND IT ENDED UP WITH 16 ARTISTS THAT WERE IN THE TOP 16.
ACROSS YOUR SCORING OF THAT, I, IT'S, IT'S BEEN QUITE A LOT
BUT, UM, HERE ARE YOUR SCORE SHEETS WITH YOUR ARTIST TOTAL SCORES FOR YOU, YOUR INDIVIDUAL SCORE SHEETS.
IN MY THINKING THAT THERE WAS THE 16 ARTISTS REPRESENTED, I THEN TALLIED THEIR SCORES SO THAT WE WOULD HAVE ACROSS THE BOARD.
SO IF THESE 16 ARTISTS MADE YOUR TOP LIST, I TOOK THEIR COLLECTIVE SCORES AND THAT'S WHAT'S IDENTIFIED HERE.
SO YOU COULD SEE THE TOTAL SCORE PER ARTIST AND THE TOTAL FIELD, AND THAT REPRESENTS ALL SEVEN OF YOUR SCORES.
AND THAT HELPED IDENTIFY A RANK.
SO OF THE TOP 16, THE TOP 10 ARE IDENTIFIED IN GOLD.
I HOPE THAT THAT FEELS LIKE IT'S, IT'S PRETTY THOROUGH PROCESS, BUT I WANTED TO BE FAIR TO EVERYBODY.
LIKE, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, ARTSTAR WHO'S REPRESENTED HERE TONIGHT.
YOU CAME UP AND WON, BUT I WANTED TO BE EQUITABLE THAT EVERYBODY'S SCORE CAME INTO YOUR TALLY SO THAT A TALLY IF IT WAS A ONE ON LIKE, YOU KNOW, THREE OF 'EM, IT DIDN'T REALLY REPRESENT COLLECTIVELY WHAT THE WHOLE GROUP THOUGHT.
SO IT BROUGHT BACK THOSE SMALLER MARGINS INTO A MORE, UM, OPEN-MINDED THOUGHT PROCESS.
NOW WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT JUST A SNAPSHOT OF THE TOP 10 SCORING PROPOSALS.
LIKE I SAID, THERE'S EIGHT TO 10 DOCUMENTS FOR EACH ONE.
SO I TRIED TO CONDENSE THEIR IMAGERY AND THEIR PUBLIC, UM, OUTREACH COMPONENT.
HE SUGGESTED, UM, A COMMUNITY INPUT SERIES AND A FINAL DURING THE FINAL DESIGN STAGE ALLOWING FOR COMMUNITY COMMENT ON COLOR PALETTE AND COMPOSITION.
ADDITIONALLY, IT WOULD BE AWESOME TO PROVIDE A COM AN OPPORTUNITY FOR LOCAL YOUTH INTERESTED IN LEARNING SPRAY PAINT MURAL TECHNIQUES TO HELP WITH THE PREPPING AND BACKGROUND STAGES OF THE PROJECT.
SO, UM, EVAN BECAME A TOP SCORE IN SIX OF YOUR RESPONSES.
AND SO, UM, I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT.
I WON'T BE DOING THAT FOR EVERY ONE OF YOU, BUT HE HAD A SIGNIFICANT MORE RESPONSE ACROSS THE BOARD, ALTHOUGH HE WAS IN EVERYBODY'S TOP CHOICE, BUT I WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT HE WAS, AND I'M HAPPY TO LIKE ZOOM IN.
I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE POURED OVER THESE, BUT I WANT, UH, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER YOU NEED AND WE CAN CYCLE BACK THROUGH THESE.
SO, UM, AGAIN, SHE HAD CREATED HER PROPOSAL IN A DRAWING AND THEN I TRIED TO BREAK A COUPLE OUT TO GIVE YOU A BETTER SENSE OF WHAT SHE, WHAT HER PROCESS WAS.
UM, SHE DESCRIBED HAVING A WORKSHOP AT A LOCAL CAFE.
UM, SHE WOULD HOLD THE STAKEHOLDER MEETING AND OPEN SESSIONS FOR LOCAL YOUTH SKATERS AND FAMILIES AND PARTICIPANTS SHARES WHAT SKATING MEANS TO THEM.
SHE WOULD MAKE SURE THE VISION WAS ALIGNED WITH THE COMMUNITY CONCEPTS AND WOULD LISTEN TO FEEDBACK AND SHE WOULD POTENTIALLY HAVE, UH, MEET WITH LOCAL SKATE GROUPS.
UM, AND SHE WOULD LOCATE THEM THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA AND SHE WOULD HAVE MEETING WITH LOCAL ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS TO MAKE SURE SHE ENGAGED WITH THE YOUNGER GENERATION OF SKATERS.
HE ENVISIONED A AN OPEN DISCUSSION WITH SKATEBOARDERS AND NEIGHBORS TO GATHER FEEDBACK ON THE DESIGN AND ENCOURAGE PARTICIPATION FROM UNDERSERVED AND EMERGING ARTISTS.
THROUGH THIS COLLABORATION PROCESS, THE MURAL WOULD BECOME NOT ONLY A VISUAL LANDMARK, BUT A SHARED EXPRESSION OF PLACE, MOVEMENT AND BELONGING.
AND IF YOU WANT ME TO ZOOM IN, YOU'RE WELCOME TO INTER LIKE, INTERJECT, UM, OR YOU COULD DO THAT DURING THE DISCUSSION.
THIS IS THE RA C'S COLLECTION COLLECTIVE.
UM, IT'S A THREE PART GROUP THAT SIGNED UP FOR THIS PORTION.
UM, TO DEVELOP THE IMAGERY, THEY WOULD HOST AN INTERGENERATIONAL COMMUNITY DESIGN EVENT AT THE PARK.
SKATERS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS OF ALL AGES WOULD BE INVITED TO SHARE STORIES, SYMBOLS, AND IDEAS.
THE COLLECTIVE PROCESS WOULD INFORM THE FINAL COLOR SCHEMES, COMPOSITIONS, AND ENSURE THE MURALS REFLECT COLLECTIVE IDENTITY AND LIVED EXPERIENCE.
HERE WE HAVE MONTY GUY PROPOSAL WITH EACH NEW PROJECT, HE FINDS THE OPPORTUNITIES TO INCLUDE AND CELEBRATE COMMUNITY.
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HE ENVISIONS A DAY TO INVITE FAMILIES TO COME AND HELP WITH THE MURAL, ALLOWING KIDS TO PAINT WITH LARGER SECTIONS OF COLOR.HE'S DONE THIS SEVERAL TIMES WITH PAST PUBLIC ART PROJECTS AND IT IS ALWAYS SUCH A GREAT TIME.
THE COMMUNITY GETS TO TAKE PART IN AND FEEL PRIDE FOR SOMETHING THAT THEY HELPED CREATE AND GIVES THEM STORIES TO TELL FOR YEARS TO COME.
IT ALSO GIVES A CHANCE TO SHOW YOUTH HOW IMPORTANT ART IS AND HOW MUCH PUBLIC ART CAN TRANSFORM A SPACE AND ADD BEAUTY TO THE ENVIRONMENT.
NOW WE HAVE TIMOTHY, ROBERT SMITH, TIMOTHY OVERLAID MURALS.
HE'S CREATED OR DESIGNED OVER THE I THE SAMPLE AREAS.
HE WOULD CUSTOMIZE THAT BASED ON THE COMMUNITY, BUT HE HAS A KIND OF 3D PERSPECTIVE.
WORKING WITH THE WITH THE COMMUNITY IS MY FAVORITE PART OF BEING A PUBLIC ARTIST.
EACH MURAL THAT I CREATE IS DESIGNED TO MAINTAIN RELEVANCE TO SPECIFIC COMMUNITIES, INCORPORATE LOCAL CULTURE, ICONIC BUILDINGS, AND THE SURROUNDING NATURAL LANDSCAPE.
JARED BENSON, UM, HE HAD A REALLY CONCEPTUAL OUTLINE THAT WAS, IT WAS HUGE, UM, BUT HE SPOKE ABOUT THE DISTRIBUTION OF OPTICAL COLOR AND COLOR ZONES ENABLE ENABLING SUBTLE WAYFINDING WITH REFERENCES ACROSS THE SKATE PARK.
I PULLED OUT, UM, HIS INDIVIDUAL WALLS, BUT UM, IT WAS A PRETTY INTENSE, UM, LAYOUT.
AND HE ALSO OFFERED BRANDING FOR THE SITE THAT INCORPORATED THE LINE WORK AND THE COLORS.
UM, AND THEN HE DESCRIBED HIS, UH, STAKEHOLDER OUTREACH IN THREE PARTS AS A COLLABORATIVE PROCESS WHERE HE WOULD MEET WITH STAKEHOLDERS TO GATHER KEY REQUIREMENTS, ESTABLISH DOCUMENTATION, AND AGREE ON A SCHEDULE AND CALENDAR.
HE WOULD THEN MOVE TO STEP TWO, WHICH IS CONCEPT PRESENTATION AND DESIGN WORKSHOP, WHERE HE WOULD MEET WITH THE COMMUNITY AND TALK ABOUT PAINT CONCEPTS AND HOW THEY CAN STAY INVOLVED.
AND FINALLY, IN THREE, HE WOULD INVITE PETALUMA SKATERS AND RESIDENTS TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPLY THE PROPOSED SYSTEM AND CREATING THE COLOR PATTERNS THROUGHOUT THE PARK AND FEEL PRIDE OF OWNERSHIP AS CREATORS.
HERE WE HAVE WYATT HERSEY, UM, FOR PUBLIC PROJECTS LIKE THIS.
COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IS KEY TO HIM AS HE AIMS TO CREATE ARTWORK THAT REFLECTS A SHARED SENSE OF OWNERSHIP AND INVITES CURIOSITY FROM YOUNGER AUDIENCES AND EMERGING CREATIVES THROUGH MURALS AND PUBLIC PROJECTS.
MY GOAL IS TO CREATE ENVIRONMENTS THAT FEEL ENERGIZED, INCLUSIVE, AND VISUALLY MEMORABLE.
WHEN I THINK OF SKATING CULTURE, I THINK OF TEENAGE EXPRESSION THROUGH MOVEMENT AND ART.
WITH THIS MURAL, I WANT TO CENTER MY WORK AROUND BRIGHT COLORS AND MOVEMENT, INCLUDING ELEMENTS OF CALIFORNIA'S BEAUTY THROUGH CALIFORNIA POPPIES, GRAPEVINES, MONARCH BUTTERFLIES, AND MORE TO KEEP SKATERS INTERESTED IN STYLE AND MIND.
I'M INCLUDING A GROUP VDI LIKE ELEMENT, WHICH WILL WORK TO TIE THESE CONCEPTS TOGETHER.
I LOVE THE CONTRAST OF THE REALISM AND THE ORGANIC GRAFFITI, MAKING IT PERFECT FOR THE PROJECT.
AND WE HAVE VINNIE SHRINER, THE EXAMPLES SHOW BELOW.
EXPLORE A FEW DIFFERENT COLOR PALETTE OPTIONS TO DEMONSTRATE THE OVERALL SYSTEM.
I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH STAKEHOLDERS AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO REVIEW FEEDBACK, TALK THROUGH IDEAS, AND FINE TUNE THE FINAL COLORS SO THE ARTWORK FEELS LIKE IT'S THE RIGHT FIT FOR THE SPACE AND THE COMMUNITY.
WE'LL DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT CITYWIDE GOALS AND PRIORITIES.
'CAUSE I THINK THAT'S ALWAYS KEY TO THINK ABOUT IN YOUR DECISION MAKING PROCESS.
WE ARE TYING TO GOAL ONE 16, MAXIMIZING THE USE OF CURRENT PARKS AND RECREATION INFRASTRUCTURE AND OTHER CITY OWNED FACILITIES AND PROPERTIES FOR HOSTING RECREATIONAL, RECREATIONAL SPORTS, CULTURAL AND ENTERTAINMENT AND EVENT EVENTS THAT ATTRACT PETALUMA VISITORS.
GOAL 1 37 TO EXPLORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR MORE MURALS AND INSTALLATION CITYWIDE.
CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN AND UPDATE CITY FACILITIES THAT PROVIDE PLACES AND SPACES OR COMMUNITY DIALOGUE, PUBLIC MEETINGS AND CUSTOMER SERVICE.
GOAL 1 49, DEVELOP A PLAN TO PRIORITIZE PLAYGROUND UPGRADES, REPLACEMENT ACCESSIBILITY IMPROVEMENTS.
AND NOW WE CAN BEGIN OUR DISCUSSION.
I'M HAPPY TO PULL UP ANYTHING, BUT I WANTED TO GIVE YOU LIKE A GUIDELINE OF WHERE WE WERE AND OUR THINKING AND I'M HAPPY TO CYCLE THROUGH OR PULL UP ANY OTHER PROPOSALS.
UM, AND ACTUALLY BEFORE DISCUSSION, I THINK WE SHOULD OPEN, UM, A PUBLIC COMMENT IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE COMMENT
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BASED ON THE PRESENTATION.AND THEN WE'LL MOVE INTO OUR DISCUSSION.
SO DO YOU WANNA OPEN THIS UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? HAVE WE RECEIVED ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? UH, WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS BEFORE THE MEETING.
WE DID RECEIVE, UH, DJ'S FEEDBACK AND I'LL PRESENT THAT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE DISCUSSION SO EVERYBODY HAS ACCESS TO HER THOUGHTS.
AND BEFORE WE GET INTO, UM, THE SPECIFICS OF ALL THE DIFFERENT, UM, APPLICANTS, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY CLARIFYING QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR, UM, ANN WOULD YOU LIKE TO ASK THE AUDIENCE IF THEY HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? SURE.
DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS POINT OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO? YEAH.
UM, I DID HAVE A CLARIFYING QUESTION.
THERE'S NO DESIGN ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE PARK, IS THAT CORRECT? NO, IT'S JUST ON THE VERTICAL WALLS.
THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT POINT THAT I THINK THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO KEEP IN MIND WHEN THEY LOOK AT THIS PROJECT.
THIS IS REALLY SKATER FOCUSED ART PEOPLE THAT ARE USING THE PARK ARE GONNA BE THE ONES TO ACTUALLY APPRECIATE IT THE MOST.
ALSO, UM, THIS PARK IS NOT TO HAVE PAINT ON THE SURFACES THAT ARE SKATEABLE.
UM, WE HAVE THAT AT THE OTHER SKATE PARK AND WE'RE REALLY DISCOURAGING THAT THAT'S NOT ALLOWED AT THIS PARK.
AND THEN IN TERMS OF REFERENCES, THEY WILL BE CHECKED AFTER WE CHOOSE AN APPLICANT? IS THAT HOW IT WORKS? YES.
OR YOU OKAY? YES, YOU CAN, YOU COULD HAVE CHECKED WITH REFERENCES THAT WERE AVAILABLE TO YOU.
UM, BUT YEAH, I CAN, I WILL DEFINITELY FOLLOW UP BEFORE WE DO A CONTRACT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING'S, I HAD ALREADY REVIEWED THEM IN ADVANCE OF PRESENTING THEM TO YOU.
SO THAT WAS HOW TWO OF THE APPLICATIONS WERE REMOVED FROM THIS, BUT THE REST OF THEM MET THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR THE APPLICATION.
SO IF, I GUESS WE HAVE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THIS POINT, UM, WE CAN OPEN IT UP TO, UH, DISCUSSION.
SO THE QUESTION IS, UM, BEFORE WE DO THIS, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU, MELISSA, FOR BEING SO DILIGENT AND PUTTING ALL THIS TOGETHER.
I KNOW IT WAS A BIG TASK AND YOUR COORDINATION OF ALL OF THE, UM, APPLICATIONS MADE IT, I THOUGHT PRETTY EASY FOR US TO GO THROUGH AND, UM, RANK OUR CHOICES.
SO I JUST WANNA SHOUT OUT TO YOU AND THANK YOU FOR THAT.
OUR POINT OF CLARIFICATION ON THE LOCATION OF THE ART NOT BEING ON SKATEABLE SURFACES, THAT WAS, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IT WAS DESIGNED FOR MORE ADVANCED SKATERS.
IS THAT CORRECT OR CAN YOU PROVIDE NO.
HAVING PAINT ON THE SURFACES CHANGES THE SCALABILITY.
IT REALLY, THEY JUST WANNA KEEP A, A, A UNILATERAL DESIGN TO THE SKATE PARK.
AND SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S NO SKATE ON THE SURFACES.
THERE'S NO PAINT ON THE SURFACES.
SO, UM, MAYBE THE BEST WAY TO DO THIS IS TO START WITH OUR TOP, UM, FIVE AND THEN OR TOP 10.
I THINK YOU, YOU ALL, IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO PULL UP YOUR INDIVIDUAL SCORE SHEET SLIDE, I CAN DO THAT.
UM, I REALIZED I DIDN'T SHARE DOROTHY'S MM-HMM
COMMENT IF YOU AT ALL LIKE TO HEAR WHAT SHE HAD TO SAY.
UM, SHE WANTS TO THANK EVERYBODY WHO SUBMITTED PROPOSALS.
THE APPROACHES WERE DIVERSE AND MANY WERE QUITE COMPELLING.
I'M SORRY I CAN'T BE WITH OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBERS TONIGHT.
AND I'VE DECIDED NOT TO ARGUE FOR MY TOP SELECTIONS BECAUSE I CANNOT BE PRESENT TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, ELABORATE OR EVEN CHANGE MY MIND.
I TRUST THE COLLECTIVE EXPERIENCE AND THE WISDOM OF OUR COMMITTEE.
HOWEVER, I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT BRIEFLY ON MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE TWO ASSESSMENT CATEGORIES AND THE WAY IN WHICH THEY INFLUENCE MY RANKINGS, THE CATEGORIES OR ARTISTIC MERIT AND SKATE CULTURE RELEVANCE.
SO FOR, SHE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS WAS PART OF OUR THINKING FOR ARTISTIC MERIT.
THE SKATE PARK PROJECT INVOLVES DISPERSED SURFACES OF VARIOUS SHAPES AND SIZES.
FOR ME, IT WAS DIFFICULT TO JUDGE THE ARTISTIC MERIT OF PROPOSALS FOR THIS PROJECT THAT DID NOT PROVIDE A VISUAL DESIGN CONCEPT AS IT MIGHT BE APPLIED TO THESE DIFFERENT SURFACES.
IT SEEMED IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THE INTERCONNECTIONS AND FLOW BETWEEN THE DISPERSED PARTS OF THE WORK.
AND TO BE ABLE TO VISUALLY UNDERSTAND THE ART AS IT MIGHT APPEAR ON A LARGELY VERY SMALL SCALED PARTS.
PROPOSALS THAT DID NOT PROVIDE THIS WERE SCORED LESS HIGHLY BY ME FOR THAT REASON.
AS A 78-YEAR-OLD PERSON WHO HAS A TANGENTIAL CONNECTION TO SKATEBOARDING THROUGH MY FIVE-YEAR-OLD GREAT-GRANDDAUGHTER, THIS CATEGORY WAS CHALLENGING.
MY LACK OF EXPERTISE PLUNGED ME INTO MANY HOURS OF INTERNET RESEARCH TO TRY TO DEEPEN MY UNDERSTANDING.
WHAT I LEARNED IS THAT AS IT HAPPENS, OR
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AS IT HAS EVOLVED FROM ITS EARLY SURFING DAYS, SKATEBOARD CULTURE IS AS INTERESTINGLY DIVERSE AS ITS PARTICIPANTS.FOR EXAMPLE, ONCE A MAN, A MALE DOMINATED SPORT, WE NOW SEE WOMEN AND GIRLS SPORTING PINK TUTU, PERHAPS AN HOMAGE TO A OLY OLYMPIA CHAMPION, ARISA TRUE WHO LIKES TO SKATE, WEARING A PINK HELMET ON A PINK BOARD AND PINK SOCKS.
AND EVEN WITH A PINK TUTU TO SHOW OFF THAT SHE'S A GIRLY GIRL TODAY, SOME SKATERS MAY IDENTIFY WITH GRAFFITI ARTISTS, WHILE OTHERS GRAVITATE TOWARDS RAINBOWS AND FLOWERS.
I FOUND THE RANGE, THE DIVERSE RANGE OF ARTISTIC EXPRESSION ON SKATE DECKS TO BE ESPECIALLY INFORMATIVE AND FUN.
SOME HAVE ONLY THE WRITTEN WORD, OTHERS COMPUTER GENERATED GRAPHICS, COMIC FIGURES OR SUPERHEROES.
AND MANY MORE WERE DE HAD WITH DESIGNS DRAWN FROM ARTWORK IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN.
IF I WERE A SKATER, I WOULD PROBABLY SELECT MY SKATE DECK OF, FOR MY SKATE DECK, A SECTION OF THE BLUE WAVE BY KANAGAWA, BY THE JAPANESE ARTIST WHO HA KUAI, WHICH IS ONE OF THE DECKS I VIEWED.
BUT I HAVE NO CLUE WHAT ANYONE ELSE IN THE ROOM WOULD PICK OR WHAT PETALUMA SKATERS WOULD PUT PICK.
AND FOR THIS PROJECT, I BELIEVE IT IS IMPORTANT TO SELECT A WORK THAT IS LOCALLY REPRESENTATIVE AND IS NOT OVERLY SKEWED TOWARDS ANY SPECIFIC SUBCULTURE, WHICH REMAINS DI DYNAMIC, FUN AND VISUALLY COMPELLING.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND ENJOY THE PROCESS.
CAN WE SEE OUR, THE SCORE SHEET AGAIN? SURE.
CAN WE, CAN WE JUST HAVE THAT UP? MAYBE THAT'LL HELP TO BEGIN WITH.
IT'S NOT THE PRETTIEST SLIDE
DO YOU WANT THE, WHICH ONE WOULD YOU PREFER? THE ONE WITH THE GOLDEN, THE ONE WITH OUR COLLECTIVE RANKINGS.
SO THOSE ARE YOUR INDIVIDUAL SCORECARDS.
THE ONE WITH THE GOLD HIGHLIGHTED.
IT HAS A, THAT MIGHT BE EASIER, RIGHT? 'CAUSE IT HAS A TOP 10 FOR US.
AND I'M HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS IF YOU NEED ANY OTHER CLARIFICATIONS OR, I THINK WHAT WE SHOULD DO IS JUST GO NAME BY NAME AND LOOK AT THE, THE SLIDE THAT SHOWS THEIR ARTWORK BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO REMEMBER, UM, WHAT EACH ARTIST IS SORT OF BRINGING TO THE TABLE OR OFFERING.
AND THEY WERE, THE SLIDES WERE IN ORDER OF TOP SCORE.
HOW DID THAT, I WOULD TO ROLL THROUGH THAT, IF, IF YOU GUYS AGREE, DID YOU HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO LOOK AT THAT, CODY, THAT LAST SLIDE? WAS THAT SUFFICIENT? SURE.
I MEAN, SO I GUESS I CAN START.
EVAN WILSON SEEMED TO BE THE TOP RANKING OUT OF ALL OF THIS, UM, WHICH IS GREAT.
I, I APPRECIATED THAT HE'S A LOCAL SKATER.
HE SEEMED VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE SITE, UM, AND SEEMED TO HAVE A LOT OF SKIN IN THE GAME IN TERMS OF REALLY LOCAL, UM, HYPER-SPECIFIC IDEAS.
I AM DISAPPOINTED THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE LOCAL SKATE COMMUNITY REPRESENTED HERE TONIGHT.
'CAUSE I THINK THEIR INPUT WOULD'VE BEEN TREMENDOUS.
SO THAT'S, UM, A DISAPPOINTMENT.
SO BEYOND THAT, UM, THIS PERSON, I THINK THIS ARTWORK IS INTERESTING.
IT'S VERY ADAPTABLE TO SMALL AND TIGHT AREAS.
I FEEL LIKE THINGS AREN'T GONNA GET LOST IN TRANSLATION HERE.
AND IT SEEMED THAT THIS PERSON, THIS APPLICANT WAS INTERESTED IN TEACHING YOUNGER PEOPLE HOW TO PAINT.
SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS GREAT TOO, HOW TO MANAGE THE PROJECT.
AND IT SEEMS LIKE HE WOULD INVITE AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION.
SO I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD, STRONG COMPONENT OF HIS WORK.
UH, I THOUGHT THIS ONE WAS BEAUTIFUL AND THE WAY HE, HE DID CAPTURE THE, THE SETTING SUN, WHICH IS WHAT HE WAS GOING FOR, IT'S REALLY NICE.
IT KIND OF HAS PATAGONIA VIBES TO ME.
BUT, UM, AND IT'S, IT'S NICE TO HAVE A TIE IN BETWEEN 'CAUSE HE'S THE MURAL WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU ENTER RIGHT PENMAN BOULEVARD SOUTH TO HAVE A TIE IN THERE.
UM, THE REASON IT DIDN'T GET MY TOP WAS I WAS LOOKING FOR THE VIBRANCY AND FUN AND MOVEMENT, WHICH IS ONE OF THE CATEGORIES.
AND TO ME, THIS REALLY IS SETTING SUN.
IT'S VERY CALM, VERY MELLOWING, WHICH IS NICE FOR EVENING SKATING.
BUT IT DOESN'T, IT JUST, TO ME, IT, IT, IT TOTALLY CAPTURES THE PICTURE.
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IT DOES, DIDN'T HAVE THE, THE, UH, ENERGETIC VIBRANCY MOVEMENT THAT I WOULD THINK OF FOR DAYTIME SKATING.I THINK I WAS IN THE MINORITY ON THIS ONE.
UM, IT'S, THIS ENDED UP BEING ONE OF MY LOWEST SCORED ARTISTS SUBMISSIONS.
UM, WHICH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S SO INTERESTING TO SEE ARTISTS SO SUBJECTIVE AND IT'S, I, I LIKE HEARING THOUGHTS ON WHAT EVERYONE ELSE THOUGHT OF THIS, UM, AND WHY THEY LIKED IT.
I ALSO AGREE WITH, UM, CODY, THAT I JUST FELT LIKE IT WAS SO UNENERGETIC AND, UM, IT REALLY TOOK ME OUT OF THE, LIKE IMAGINING JUST A DAY IN THE LIFE OF A SKATE PARK, THE ENERGY AND THE, YOU KNOW, KIDS BUZZING AROUND.
AND, UM, I JUST, WHEN I LOOKED AT THE COLOR KIND OF PALETTE AND COMBINATIONS, I JUST SAW LIKE, VERY MUTED, KIND OF DULL TONES.
AND IT JUST, IT JUST WASN'T MY FAVORITE.
BUT I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR MORE THOUGHTS ABOUT WHY PEOPLE REALLY APPRECIATED THIS ARTWORK.
I DO AGREE THAT IT'S GREAT THAT THIS ARTIST IS PART OF THE COMMUNITY AND WANTS TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY.
MY CONCERN WAS THE ACTUAL CONTENT AND THE MEANING BEHIND THE ARTWORK.
I WAS KIND OF SEARCHING FOR MORE DEPTH AND MEANING AND CONNECTION TO THE COMMUNITY.
'CAUSE THIS COULD BE A SUNSET ANYWHERE.
UM, SO JUST WOULD LOVE TO HEAR OTHER OPINIONS ON THAT.
I'LL GO, UH, YEAH, I, I DID SCORE THIS FAIRLY HIGHLY.
UM, I LIKED HIS OTHER WORK AS WELL, SO LOOKING AT HIS PAST WORK REALLY HELPED ME SEE, UM, AS A LOT OF THESE ARTISTS, IT'S HARD TO, YOU KNOW, THIS ISN'T A FINISHED PIECE AS IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF JUST A, A FEELING.
AND, UM, SO I LIKE THE CONCEPTUAL, UH, COLOR PALETTE, UH, THE ABSTRACTION OF IT.
UM, I, I SEE A LOT OF THE ENERGY IN HIS OTHER WORK, UH, TRANSFERRING INTO THIS.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT AS GR YOU KNOW, HE HAS A GRAFFITI STYLE.
UM, SO SOME OF THESE BRUSH STROKES AND KIND OF ELEMENTS THAT ARE HARD TO SEE IN HIS OTHER WORK COMES ACROSS AS ENERGETIC.
AND, UM, SO I COULD KIND OF BRIDGE THAT GAP VISUALLY MYSELF.
UM, AND, UH, AND SO I, I LIKED, UH, I LIKED HIS CONNECTION TO COMMUNITY INPUT AND, UM, I JUST, I ENJOYED HIS WORK.
SO, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT THIS ONE WAS, UH, IN TERMS OF THE COLOR PALETTE, UH, THAT DIDN'T BOTHER ME AT ALL.
YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THE, THE CONTRAST AND THE, AND THE, THE SUPPORTING COLORS AND BRIGHT ORANGES AND BLUES, UM, HAD ENERGY FOR ME.
UM, I WROTE DOWN THAT HE HAS A FIVE-YEAR-OLD SKATER AND HIS FAMILY, UM, I LIKED HIS OTHER WORK.
I DID SEE THE CALMNESS IN IT, BUT IT'S COMPLIMENTARY COLORS OF BLUE AND ORANGE, WHICH, UM, DEPENDING HOW IT WOULD TURN OUT, CAN BE, I FELT VERY ENERGETIC ACTUALLY.
SO AGAIN, EVERYBODY HAS DIFFERENT IDEAS.
UM, I REALLY LIKED THAT HE TALKED ABOUT TEACHING OTHERS HOW TO PAINT WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY.
SO, UM, AND I, AND IF I DIDN'T SAY IT, I LIKED HIS OTHER WORK TOO.
YEAH, THIS WAS ALSO ONE OF MY TOP SCORES.
UM, IN TERMS OF ARTISTIC E EXCELLENCE, I REALLY RATED THAT BASED ON THE SUBMISSION AS WELL AS THE PREVIOUS WORK, I FELT A HIGH LEVEL OF CONFIDENCE THAT HE COULD EXECUTE THE PRO PROJECT, UM, WITH A, AN OUTCOME THAT WE WOULD BE HAPPY WITH.
UM, THE ORIGINALITY FELT REALLY HIGH TO ME.
UM, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY I WAS REALLY LOOKING AT SUBMISSIONS THAT WOULD APPEAL TO A BROAD VARIETY OF SKATERS.
SO ANYTHING THAT LOOKED, UM, OVERLY ELEMENTARY OR SOMETHING THAT WAS GONNA FOCUS MORE ON LIKE 12 YEARS OLD AND UNDER, I SCORED LOWER.
UM, JUST WITH MY PERSONAL OPINION BEING THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY THAT COULD CREATE A REALLY COOL SPACE FOR SOME OF OUR OLDER YOUTH.
UM, AND IN TERMS OF SKATE CULTURE, THAT THAT WAS A MORE APPROPRIATE
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DESIGN FOR THIS PROJECT.UM, I WANTED TO ADD THAT I REALLY LIKED HIS TECHNIQUE.
UM, THIS WAS ONE OF MY HIGHER SCORES.
I FELT LIKE HIS PREVIOUS WORK WAS REALLY GOOD.
I LIKE THE MOVEMENT THAT COMES ACROSS IN HIS GEOMETRIES AND THE FADES AND HIS STYLE FELT LIKE SKATE CULTURE TO ME.
WHEN YOU ZOOM IN AND YOU LOOK AT SORT OF THE, THE ROUGH EDGE, THE DISTRESS LOOK DONE, ALL THESE THINGS, UM, I REALLY LIKED THAT.
IT FELT VERY, UH, THOUGHTFUL, BUT NOT, UM, I DON'T KNOW, NOT, UM, VERY, IT FELT EPHEMERAL, WHICH I LIKED.
UM, WITHIN A CERTAIN VERNACULAR, I GUESS IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.
THE COLOR PALETTE, I CAN SEE WHAT YOU MEAN.
IT, IT DEFINITELY CAPTURES HIS SUNDOWN THING.
UM, I'M SURE THAT HE WOULD WORK WITH US TO FIND SOMETHING THAT IF WE DID CHOOSE, CHOOSE HIM BASED ON HIS STYLE AND HIS PREVIOUS WORK THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE THERE'S PROBABLY SOME INPUT THAT WE COULD GIVE HIM IF WE WANTED TO SEE A LOT MORE PUNCH FROM HIS, FROM HIS ART.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO LOOK AT THE NEXT SLIDE? OKAY.
UH, I THINK IT HAS A LOT OF MOVEMENT IN IT.
UM, THAT'S ONE OF MY FAVORITE PARTS.
I JUST, I ALSO REALLY LIKE THE STAINED GLASS MOTIF.
UH, I ALSO LIKE THAT THIS SEEMED TO BE ONE OF THE ONLY ONES WHERE THESE SMALLER ELEMENTS, UM, THEY DIDN'T SEEM CUT OFF, RIGHT.
THEY, THEY HAVE WORDS ON IT, WHICH, WHICH IS NICE.
'CAUSE THE OTHER ONES, IT SEEMED LIKE THEY TRIED TO JUST FIT.
UH, IT'S KIND OF LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE SEWING AND YOU CUT OFF A LITTLE PIECE OF, OF THE, WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, ALL THE OTHER ONES LOOK LIKE YOU JUST GOT A SNIPPET, LIKE IT WAS CUT, IT WASN'T A FULL, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? WHEREAS THIS, LIKE, EACH SMALL ELEMENT LOOKS LIKE IT'S FULLY DONE.
AND THERE'S THE, ONE OF THE ONLY ONES THAT LOOKED LIKE THAT.
SO MAYBE THE OTHER ONES WERE JUST CONCEPTS, BUT LIKE, I CAN JUST, I CAN BID OFF OF WHAT I'M ACTUALLY LOOKING AT.
UM, THE COLOR, THE MOVEMENT, ESPECIALLY LIKE THAT ONE RIGHT THERE, THERE'S SO MUCH MOVEMENT IN THERE.
UM, AND I LIKE THE WORDING AND I THINK THERE WAS A PETALUMA SKATE PARK IN THERE.
IT WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT WAS THE ONLY SUBMISSION, I THINK OF THE ONES WE PICKED THAT HAD PETALUMA EVEN MENTIONED.
RIGHT? AND WE WANT THIS TO FEEL LIKE A PETALUMA PARK.
SO THE POPPIES, ALL OF IT, THIS FELT LOCAL TO ME.
UH, LOVE THAT EVERYTHING LOOKS INTENTIONAL AND NOT LIKE YOU JUST TOOK A, A DESIGN AND PASTED IT ONTO A SPOT WHERE IT WOULDN'T FIT.
SO, UM, THIS, THE FIRST PASS THROUGH THIS SCORED REALLY HIGH.
AND THEN I WENT THROUGH A DIFFERENT DAY AND, UM, DOUBLE CHECKED ALL MY RANKING TO MAKE SURE, I DUNNO, THAT I WASN'T MOODY THAT DAY THAT I DID THE FIRST ONE.
UM, AND IT, IT DROPPED A LITTLE FOR ME.
UM, SOME OF MY CONCERNS ON THIS ARTIST WAS WHEN I LOOKED AT PAST ARTWORK, I WASN'T SURE THAT I FELT CONFIDENT WITH HER EXPERIENCE ON THIS SPECIFIC TYPE OF APPLICATION.
UM, AND THIS WAS ONE THAT I ULTIMATELY FELT, UM, FELT A LITTLE MORE ELEMENTARY TO ME VERSUS SPANNING A BROAD AGE RANGE.
SO, BUT I, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PIECE.
I WOULDN'T BE OPPOSED, BUT THAT'S WHAT ULTIMATELY SCORED THIS PIECE DOWN FOR ME.
I LIKE THE COLOR, I LIKE THE MOVEMENT, BUT THIS DID NOT SCORE.
THIS WAS VERY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD FOR ME.
I FEEL LIKE WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THESE THINGS, I WAS TRYING TO FIND THINGS THAT ARE LESS LITERAL.
UM, I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE SO MUCH LITERAL MURAL WORK AROUND TOWN IN THE AREA OF ALL OF OUR PUBLIC SPACES.
I WANNA SEE SOMETHING A LITTLE BIGGER, A LITTLE MORE CHALLENGING THINKING WISE BECAUSE, UM, WE SORT OF, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE VERY REDUNDANT WITH WHAT WE'RE CHOOSING.
AND SO I WAS LOOKING FOR THINGS THAT SORT OF BROKE THE BOX A LITTLE BIT.
TO ME, SKATE CULTURE SHOULD BREAK THE PERFECT OPPORTUNITY TO BREAK OUT AND FIND SOMETHING NEW.
UM, SO THIS ONE, I LOVE THE VIBRANCY OF THE COLOR.
UM, BUT THIS DIDN'T GET MY HIGH MARKS.
UM, THIS WAS ONE OF MY HIGH SCORES.
UM, FOR ME IT JUST REALLY PULLED MY EYE THROUGH ALL THE SPACES.
UM, SO I, I, I REALLY LIKED IT FOR THE LITTLE ELEMENTS AND I SEE WHAT ANNE IS
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POINTING OUT.UM, BUT I ACTUALLY LIKED THAT IN THERE.
SO, UM, THIS WAS DEFINITELY ONE OF MY HIGH SCORES.
YEAH, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE INTERESTING BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE REALLY LIKE FIGURATIVE WORK.
SOME PEOPLE LIKE MORE ABSTRACTION.
UM, THIS WAS OUTSIDE OF MY TOP FIVE.
UM, UH, I THINK SHE'S VERY CAPABLE.
IT JUST, UM, IT DIDN'T WOW ME IN TERMS OF THE, THE IDEA, YOU KNOW, IT FELT VERY MUCH OKAY.
UM, AND THEN HER, HER PREVIOUS WORK ALSO WAS, WAS VERY NICE.
UM, JUST MY PERSONAL AESTHETIC.
I, I WASN'T AS EXCITED ABOUT IT.
UM, BUT I CAN SEE THIS BEING VERY SUITABLE AND, AND, YOU KNOW, I COULD BE BEAUTIFUL OUT THERE.
UM, SOMETIMES FIGURATIVE WORK, YOU KNOW WHO, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE PERSON THAT'S GONNA BE SHOWN RIGHT WHEN ABSTRACTION, IT DOESN'T, YOU KIND OF GET A FEELING FOR IT, BUT YOU PUT A PERSON UP THERE, YOU KNOW, WHAT GENDER IS IT, WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT RACE IS IT, YOU KNOW, YOU KIND OF GET STUCK IN THOSE THINGS.
SO IT'S, UM, BEING REPRESENTATIVE IS A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT.
THE THE MORE, UH, REALISTIC YOU GET.
SO, UH, FOR THAT REASON I KIND OF SKEWED AWAY FROM IT.
UM, I HAVE A HUGE, UH, CONFLICT OF INTEREST WITH THIS ARTIST.
SHE ACTUALLY IS ONE OF MY EMPLOYEES.
SO, UM, I WILL JUST SAY THAT I LOVE HER WORK.
AND, UM, I MEAN, JUST FROM MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, SHE IS AN INCREDIBLY CAPABLE MURALIST.
SHE WAS IN MY TOP FIVE FOR THE DESIGN.
I INTENTIONALLY DIDN'T SPEAK TO HER ABOUT THIS PROJECT OR SUBMISSION, TRYING TO KEEP EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, LIKE FRESH SO THAT I'M SEEING IT AT THE SAME TIME THAT YOU ALL ARE SEEING IT.
UM, BUT I JUST COULD REALLY SEE ALL OF HER, JUST KNOWING HER AS AN ARTIST, ALL OF HER, UM, LIKE HER TWO YOUNG SONS WHO GO TO THE SKATE PARK.
LIKE I COULD SEE THEM IN THE ARTWORK.
AND, UM, I JUST THINK IT'S A REALLY FUN DESIGN AND, UM, IT'S JUST VERY BRIGHT AND COLORFUL AND, UM, YEAH, IT'S VERY ROBIN
UM, BUT, SO THAT'S ALL I'M GONNA SAY ABOUT IT.
NUMBER THREE OR FOUR I, THIS, THIS ONE I, I REALLY LIKED AS WELL.
AND IT REMINDS ME, UH, WHEN I WAS, UH, WHEN I SAILED TO ALASKA TWO YEARS AGO, WE STOPPED IN, UM, UH, UM, PRINCE RUPERT.
THEY HAD A REALLY COOL SKATE PARK THAT HAD SOMETHING SIMILAR.
'CAUSE THEY, THERE WAS INDIGENOUS TRIBES THERE AND THEY HAD VERY TRIBAL, UH, LOOK TO THE SKATE PARK.
AND THIS IS, IT CAPTURES THAT OUR HISTORY GOING WAY BACK.
AND ALSO IT HAS THE SALMON, WHICH, UH, IS IMPORTANT FOR LOCALITY.
AND AGAIN, ALL OF THESE SMALL PIECES LOOK FINISHED TOO, RIGHT? LIKE, HERE'S THIS SKINNY PIECE, BUT IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT WAS CUT OUT OF A BIGGER PIECE.
IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S MEANT TO BE.
IT'S INTENTIONAL, RIGHT? UM, SO, UH, THE MOVEMENT IS ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS I LIKED.
AGAIN, WITH THIS ONE LOT OF MOVEMENT, THIS, UH, IT FELT LIKE YOU'RE FLOWING LIKE WATER.
AND TO ME IT'S KIND OF LIKE SKATING WHERE YOU'RE FLOWING AS WELL, RIGHT? SO YOU HAD SWIRLS AND WAVES AND, UM, COLOR, UH, THAT WAS ALSO KIND OF LIKE THE FIRST ONE.
UM, EVAN WILSON PIECE, A LITTLE DARKER AGAIN.
SO I WOULD SAY THEY'RE GONNA DO THIS, MAYBE BRIGHTEN IT UP, LIKE THE GREEN AND GOLD DOWN HERE.
I, I, I CAN ALMOST NOT SEE WHAT IT IS, RIGHT? SO I WOULD SAY IF, IF THIS IS THE PERSON, THEY WILL NEED TO MAYBE BRIGHTEN THINGS UP A LITTLE BIT.
BUT, UM, ONE OF, AGAIN, ONE OF MY FAVORITES.
THIS IS ABOUT AS ABSTRACT AS I GO.
UM, THIS WAS MY NUMBER FOUR AND NOW I'M LOOKING AT IT AGAIN.
LIKE, OH, SHOULD I HAVE MOVED IT UP HIGHER BECAUSE IT'S REALLY STRIKING WHEN I SEE IT THIS ADDITIONAL TIME.
UM, I THOUGHT HIS PREVIOUS WORK WAS PRETTY IMPRESSIVE.
SO I FELT, UH, VERY COMFORTABLE WITH SELECTING HIM BASED ON SKILL.
AND, UM, MOST IMPORTANTLY, I FELT LIKE THIS WAS A REALLY INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITY TO
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HAVE SOME NATIVE LATINO REPRESENTATION IN OUR ART IN OUR COMMUNITY, WHICH I HAVEN'T SEEN A LOT OF.I'VE SEEN A LOT MORE OF THE LITERAL MURALISTS.
UM, SO I AGREE ABOUT LIGHTNING IT UP MAYBE A BIT OR BRINGING IN SOME OTHER COLORATION, BUT A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO SHOWCASE A PIECE OF ART THAT, UM, A STYLE THAT I DON'T SEE IT AROUND TOWN MUCH.
I THINK THIS IS A NICE BLEND OF ABSTRACT AND ENERGY.
I MEAN, SORRY, IN LITERAL FIGURATIVE STUFF.
UM, THIS ARTIST, YOU KNOW, IS THE FIRST PERSON IN THE WHOLE DECK.
SO I SAW THIS, I WAS LIKE, WOW, THIS IS AMAZING.
AND SO YOU START GOING THROUGH THIS ARTIST WAS IN MY TOP FIVE.
UM, IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE THE COLOR PALETTE IS VERY MUCH LIKE EVAN WILSON, BUT THERE'S SO MUCH ENERGY THAT COMES THROUGH WITH HIS BLACK AND HIS LINE WORK THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
UM, AGAIN, THIS, THE OTHER SAMPLES OF WORK, THIS IS AN ACCOMPLISHED MURALIST.
I DON'T THINK THERE WE WOULD HAVE ANY DOUBTS, UM, ABOUT THE CAPABILITY OF THE ARTIST.
UM, IT LENDS ITSELF TO TIGHT SPACES.
I CAN'T REALLY FIND ANYTHING FAULT WITH THIS PERSONALLY.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS WAS OTHER THAN HAVING ONE.
I MEAN, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WROTE.
I'D HAVE TO REREAD IT, BUT I, I THINK THIS IS A REALLY SOLID OPTION.
I DIDN'T SCORE IT QUITE AS HIGH AS SOME OF THE OTHERS.
UM, BUT I REALLY DID LIKE IT AS, AS SOMEONE ELSE JUST SAID.
IT WAS THE FIRST ONE WE LOOKED AT AND I WAS, WAS, THIS IS AMAZING.
SO I LIKE THE COLORS, I DEFINITELY LIKE THE MOVEMENT.
UM, I LIKED THE DESIGNS, SO IF THIS IS THE ONE WE CHOSE, I WOULD BE HAPPY WITH IT AS WELL.
THIS WAS A LITTLE BIT OUT OF MY TOP THREE I THINK.
BUT, UM, I WENT BACK AND I, I WAS PLANNING ON RESCORING IT.
I DON'T REMEMBER IF I DID OR NOT.
'CAUSE IT WAS THE FIRST ONE AND I THINK I SCORED IT A LOW.
UM, YEAH, I AGREE WITH, UH, THE REST OF THE PANELISTS.
YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, UH, IT HAS GOOD ENERGY.
THE COLOR PALETTE CAN BE BRIGHTENED UP.
UM, BUT THERE'S A STARKNESS TO IT.
I THINK IT, UH, BECAUSE OF THE GEOMETRICS AND, AND SOME OF THE SHARP SHAPES, IT DOES FEEL, YOU KNOW, SKATER ISH, UM, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE FISH.
I, I, I THINK I MAYBE KIND OF WASN'T AS INTO JUST FISH, YOU KNOW? I THOUGHT MAYBE THERE'S OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THERE.
UM, BUT, UH, I UNDERSTAND THE CONNECTION TO, UM, TO THE STORY.
UM, IT JUST DIDN'T WOW ME, BUT I THINK, UH, IN THE, THE PREVIOUS WORK WAS PRETTY, UH, IMPRESSIVE.
SO I THINK I AGREE THAT, UH, THIS PERSON COULD REALLY, UH, KNOCK IT OUTTA THE PARK.
I AGREE THAT, UM, THIS ARTIST, UM, IS REALLY CAPABLE AND SCORED REALLY HIGH IN ARTISTIC EXCELLENCE.
FOR ME, I REALLY LIKE THE BOLDNESS AND THE CONTRAST AND UM, I THINK IT HAS A GREAT POINT OF VIEW.
I DO AGREE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF FISH.
I FEEL LIKE THERE IS, UM, REALLY COHESIVE DESIGN ELEMENTS THROUGHOUT.
I LIKE THAT THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENCE THOUGH, LIKE CODY WAS SAYING, IT'S NOT LIKE SOMETHING WAS JUST CUT OUT.
IT IT, THE SMALLER SPACES, ESPECIALLY IF YOU ZOOM IN, UM, THEY ARE UNIQUE AND KIND OF, UM, COMPLIMENT THE LARGER, YEAH, LIKE THE LITTLE KIND OF DOTTY ONES AND YEAH, SOME, UM, I JUST THINK THAT THIS ARTIST, UM, EVEN THOUGH THERE IS A SIMILAR COLOR PALETTE TO, UM, THE FIRST ONE THAT WE DISCUSSED, I JUST THINK THAT THE WAY THAT IT IS EXECUTED IS CREATES SO MUCH MORE ENERGY AND MOVEMENT AND INTEREST TO ME.
SO I REALLY LIKE THIS ENTRY AND WOULD ALSO BE VERY PLEASED TO SEE THIS IN THE SKATE PARK.
UM, AND, UH, WELL, I MEAN I JUST, I LOVE THE PATTERNS, LIKE THE ANIMALS THAT THEY SOURCE, THE, UH, THE INSPIRATION FROM.
I FOLLOW SOMEONE ON FACEBOOK WHO PAINTS THOSE.
I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT THIS IS ONE OF THE COOLEST, I'VE BECOME REALLY INTERESTED IN TRIBAL PATTERNS.
'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S NOT LITERAL, BUT IT'S
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ALSO NOT ABS ABSTRACT.YOU CAN FOLLOW IT, IT MAKES SENSE.
UM, SO, AND, AND ALSO, I MEAN TOO, I BELIEVE IT'S ARTURO, RIGHT? UH, CMGI MEAN, HE, HE IS A BIG PART OF THIS COMMUNITY.
HE DID THOSE BENCHES WHEN HE WAS, I THINK IN HIGH SCHOOL.
HE'S NOW ONE OF THE LEAD DESIGNERS FOR THE RIVER PARK.
I MEAN, UH, I THINK THAT THIS TEAM IS REALLY EMBEDDED IN PETALUMA AND OR ONE OF THOSE EXAMPLES OF LIKE, MAKING THIS THEIR TOWN.
UH, SO EVERYTHING ABOUT, IT'S REALLY COOL.
I, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT DOES SPEAK TO ALL COMMUNITIES IN PETALUMA WOULD BE, UH, MY, MY ONLY THING I WANNA MAKE SURE ABOUT.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, AS FAR AS DESIGN GOES, THIS WAS MY NUMBER TWO AND I THINK THE TEAM IS GREAT.
YEAH, I THINK THIS WAS MY NUMBER FIVE, SO IT DIDN'T HIT IN MY TOP THREE.
I THINK THE SECOND READING, I DROPPED THIS DOWN.
IT WAS ANOTHER ONE THAT GOT DROPPED DOWN A LITTLE.
UM, BUT IN GENERAL, I THOUGHT ALL THOSE SMALL SPACES WERE DESIGNED REALLY NICELY.
UM, I DID LOOK AT THE PORTFOLIO OF WORK AND IT LOOKED VERY DIFFERENT THAN THIS SUBMISSION, WHICH I CAN UNDERSTAND BECAUSE IT'S A TEAM.
UM, BUT THAT WAS MY ONLY, I THINK QUESTIONING WAS IT, IT MADE IT A LITTLE CHALLENGING FOR ME TO KNOW WHAT DOES THIS PERSON'S STYLE LOOK LIKE IN A, UM, IN A TRUE PIECE.
UM, WHICH IT COULD BE AMAZING.
I JUST DIDN'T HAVE THAT REFERENCE POINT, WHICH IS WHY IT ENDED UP DROPPING A FEW POINTS FOR ME.
I LIKE THIS, UM, APPLICATION PREDOMINANTLY BECAUSE I LIKE THE TEAM.
I LIKE THE POTENTIAL OF THE TEAM.
I LOOK THAT THEY'RE LOCAL AND AS CODY MENTIONED, EMBEDDED.
I LIKE, THEY BRING A LOT IN PERSPECTIVE.
I WROTE THAT THE METAPHOR MAY BE STRONGER THAN THE VISUAL READ.
IT FEELS A LITTLE VISUALLY DISCONNECTED TO ME.
SO STUDENT WORKSHOP COM COMPONENT TO THEIR PROPOSAL WAS A NICE TOUCH.
UM, IT'S NOT IN MY TOP FIVE, BUT I, IT'S, IT'S NICE.
UM, I ALSO NOTICED THAT AND AT, THEY WERE BOTH LOCAL AND, UH, THEY HAD THE FOCUS ON OAXACAN ART, WHICH I PERSONALLY LOVE AND COLLECT AND I ACTUALLY TEACH.
UM, BUT I ALSO FELT THAT VISUAL DISCONNECT.
AND I DON'T KNOW A BETTER WAY OF SAYING THAT.
UM, I LOVED THE FACT THAT THEY WERE DOING THE WORK AT THE RIVER PARK AND THEY WERE LOCAL.
UM, I SCORED THEM HIGHER TO BEGIN WITH.
AND THEN WHEN I WENT BACK THROUGH ALL OF 'EM A SECOND AND THIRD TIME, THEN IT DROPPED A LITTLE.
BUT I ALSO THINK THEY COULD DO AN OUTSTANDING JOB, AND IF THAT'S WHO WE PICK, I WOULD NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.
YEAH, I REALLY LOVE THIS WORK.
UM, I GOT, I THINK MY SCORING DOESN'T REFLECT THAT AS MUCH BECAUSE IT DIDN'T FEEL AS APPROPRIATE FOR THE SKATE PARK.
YOU KNOW, IT FELT SOMETHING LIKE, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ON THE SIDE OF A BUILDING, UM, AND SEE IT ALL THE TIME AND REPRESENT THIS TYPE OF ART AND THIS COMMUNITY.
AND IT JUST FELT LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF A DISCONNECT FROM THE, IT WASN'T, UH, IT DIDN'T SCORE AS HIGH FOR BEING CONNECTED AND BEING SOMETHING THAT THE, THE SKATERS THEMSELVES MIGHT CELEBRATE AS MUCH.
UM, BUT, UH, I LIKE THE, THE, UH, THE GEOMETRICS OF IT.
I LIKE, UH, THE COLOR PALETTES.
I THINK THEY WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO WORK ON THEM, UM, A LITTLE BIT MORE TO, LIKE YOU SAID, AND BE A LITTLE MORE COHESIVE.
THE SUBMISSION SCORE REALLY HIGH FOR ME, I THINK WAS LIKE A SECOND OR THIRD.
I LIKE THEIR, UM, PERSPECTIVE AND THAT THEY'RE FROM HERE AND ROOTED HERE AS WE ARE DISCUSSING.
I ALSO REALLY LOVE THE, I CAN SEE ALMOST IF IT FEELS LIKE THE SKATE PARK IS ONE OF, UM, THE MYTHICAL ANIMALS, LIKE THE LIB BRI HUSS, UM, INSPIRATION.
AND IN THAT ARTWORK IT'S ALWAYS LIKE DISJOINTED AND, UM, CONTRASTING COLORS AND PATTERNS AND SHAPES RIGHT UP AGAINST EACH OTHER.
SO IT ALMOST TO ME GAVE IT THE CONTEXT THAT IT WASN'T LIKE COHESIVE AND FLOWING.
IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, CLASHES OF PATTERNS AND SYMBOLS.
AND I LOVED HOW VIBRANT AND FUN IT IS FROM FAR AWAY.
BUT THEN WHEN YOU GET UP CLOSE, IT'S MORE MEANINGFUL
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AND YOU KIND OF GET THE, THE HAWKEN INSPIRATION AND YOU SEE, YOU KNOW, MORE DETAIL.AND, UM, I JUST THOUGHT THIS WAS A REALLY STRONG, I DO DEFINITELY SEE, UM, SOME OF THE CONCERNS ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW BASED ON PAST WORK, HOW IT WOULD KIND OF COME TOGETHER WITH THREE ARTISTS AND, UM, DEFINITELY DO SEE THAT.
BUT, UM, I JUST, I REALLY LIKE THEIR WORK.
UM, I THOUGHT THIS WAS REALLY A STRONG SUBMISSION.
YEAH, THIS WAS NOT IN MY TOP FIVE.
UM, I JUST THOUGHT I WAS THINKING I COULD BE WRONG, BUT MAYBE WHAT ARE, WERE THESE ALLOWED TO BE AI GENERATED OR WERE THESE ALL UM, YES, THE DESIGN WAS AS LONG AS THEY COULD DEMONSTRATE THE ABILITY, UM, THAT WAS WHAT THE GROUP HAD DECIDED.
I'M NOT SURE THAT THIS IS AI GENERAT.
I, I CAN'T TELL IF IT'S AI GENERATED, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING THAT WAS DONE IN DESIGN PROGRAM.
SO YEAH, MAYBE THAT'S WHAT IT, IT JUST DIDN'T FEEL LIKE, LIKE THE FIRST ONE, THE, THE, THE LEFT SIDE, THE RIGHT SIDE, THEY DON'T LOOK LIKE THE SAME STYLE.
AND SO I FEEL LIKE A LOT OF THESE ARE CLASHING IN STYLE.
MAYBE THAT'S, IT'S JUST A CONCEPT, BUT AS WE'RE FINDING OUT, I'M A VERY LITERAL PERSON AND I CAN ONLY JUDGE IN WHAT I SEE.
UH, SO I JUST WAS SEEING THINGS IN HERE CLASHING A LOT.
I DO THINK IT HAS A LOT OF, UM, LOCALITY, BUT IT'S A LITTLE TOO BUSY AND CLASHING AND AT THE SAME TIME.
SO, UM, I, I LOVE HAVING THE, THE REDWOODS AND THE HILLS IN THERE, BUT THEN LIKE IN THE SECOND ONE, YOU HAVE SOMETHING STRAIGHT THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE HILLS THAT TAKES AWAY FROM THAT.
THEY, THEY DON'T LOOK LIKE THEY GO TOGETHER.
THERE'S TWO PARTS OF THAT IMAGE.
AND I THINK THAT WAS MY CONCERN FOR ALL OF THEM IS THE, THE, THERE'S LIKE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON IN EACH ONE THAT TO ME DON'T GO TOGETHER, BUT ON THEIR OWN SEPARATELY ARE NICE.
YEAH, I DON'T HAVE ANY NOTES ON THIS ONE.
UM, I THINK THERE'S SOME NICE PIECES AND IT FEELS LIKE SOMETHING I'VE SEEN BEFORE.
SO, UM, I SEE WHAT YOU MEAN, CODY ABOUT THE, UM, THINGS NOT LOOKING LIKE THEY'RE, THEY'RE MATCHING.
I, I PREFER THE VERY ABSTRACT, THE LAST PIECE THAT'S MY FAVORITE.
AND I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF THE, THE TOP ONE
SO WE'RE, WE'RE WANTING FROM EACH OTHER.
UM, I THINK THE COLOR PALETTE'S BEAUTIFUL.
I DID LIKE, UM, SOME OF THE OVERLAYS, SORRY.
THAT SHOWED, YOU KNOW, MOVEMENT AND, YOU KNOW, ALMOST LIKE FIRE COMING UP.
AND, UM, BUT, UM, I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF NOTES ON THIS ONE.
HIGH COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT MIGHT NOT BE SUITED FOR TIGHT SPACES, BUT I ACTUALLY THINK THAT WAS AN INCORRECT NOTE, SO PLEASE DISREGARD THAT.
UM, I WOULDN'T BE DISAPPOINTED, BUT IT, IT, IT FEELS LIKE IT NEEDS A GOOD, YOU KNOW, A SECOND REWORK TO ME
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE PUTTING IDEAS IN THESE TIGHT SPACES AND, AND YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF THE ARTISTS SAYS, LOOK, I'M NOT GONNA DO A MOCKUP FOR YOU BECAUSE WE'RE NOT THERE YET.
AND I, I GET THAT AS SOMEONE WHO IS A CREATIVE, I UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS.
SO, UM, I THINK YOU NEED TO LOOK AT SOMEONE'S RANGE AND SAY, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT WE START WITH AND WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? AND WITH THIS ARTIST, I REALLY FEEL LIKE THERE'S AN EVOLUTION FROM MAYBE THE TOP SLICE TO THE BOTTOM SLICE WHERE THEY SORT OF DEVELOPED THEIR STYLE AS THEY WENT ALONG AND HELD IT TOGETHER WITH THE, THE SILHOUETTES, WHICH SORT OF ANCHOR THE ART TO THE SPACE.
SO, UM, THIS WAS ONE OF MY HIGH SCORING ONES.
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I LIKED THE COLORS, I LIKED THE MOVEMENT, I LIKED THE VITALITY.I LIKED THE ONE ON THE BOTTOM WITH THE ABSTRACT AND THE SILHOUETTES.
UM, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT THE TOP ONE WITH THE HILLS AND THE TREES.
UH, BUT ON THE LEFT SIDE OF IT, I LIKED THE SUN.
I LIKED THE MOVEMENT IN THE SKY.
UM, I LIKED HIS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT DISCUSSION AND I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT MAYBE THEY DIDN'T QUITE GO TOGETHER, BUT I JUST, I REALLY LIKED THE VIBRANCY, THE MOVEMENT.
UM, SO
YOU KNOW, IT FELT LIKE, UM, UH, IT JUST DIDN'T, DIDN'T EXCITE ME AS MUCH.
UM, SO I DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF NOTES ON IT.
IT WAS ONE OF MY LOWER SCORES OR NO, KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE, I GUESS.
UM, BUT, UH, IT FEEL, I, I THINK SOMEBODY ELSE SAID, IT FELT LIKE SOMETHING I'D SEEMED TO FORCE.
SO IT WASN'T LIKE, IT WASN'T, UH, REALLY SURPRISING OR, OR, UM, AND I LIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE ABSTRACTION.
UM, I GET THE IDEA OF THE, THE SILHOUETTED, YOU KNOW, KIND OF CONNECTING IT ALL.
UM, BUT, UH, IT JUST, JUST WASN'T, UH, THAT HIGH FOR ME.
UM, I THINK YOU PUT IT IN A VERY POLITE WAY, UM, DATED AND, UM, MY FIRST THOUGHT WAS LIKE CLIP ART, WHICH WAS SURPRISING TO ME 'CAUSE I HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT CLIP ART IN A LONG TIME.
BUT, UM, IT, IT DOES FEEL LIKE IT'S JUST NOT THERE YET.
I DO LIKE THE, THE BOTTOM PIECE.
I COULD SEE KIND OF MORE OF A SERIES MORPHING FROM THAT.
AND IS IT ENOUGH TO JUST PUT THE SILHOUETTE OF A SKATEBOARDER DOING A TRICK TO BE RELEVANT TO THE SKATING COMMUNITY? I DON'T KNOW.
YOU KNOW, IF THERE WERE OTHER THINGS THAT WERE SILHOUETTED ABOUT THE CULTURE AND THE COMMUNITY, I THINK THAT COULD HAVE BEEN A REALLY INTERESTING WAY TO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF DIVE A LITTLE DEEPER.
I THOUGHT THIS WAS VERY SURFACE LEVEL AND JUST DIDN'T DO IT FOR ME.
AND SO THIS WAS, UM, WE'RE NOW HALFWAY THROUGH THE TOP 10.
JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, THIS IS TIMOTHY ROBERT SMITH.
THIS WAS ALSO LOWER FOR ME, AND I THINK, I THOUGHT THE CONCEPTS WERE ALL REALLY COOL.
I, I WAS WORRIED THAT IS WAY TOO MUCH GOING ON, TOO MUCH DETAIL FOR THESE SMALL OF SPACES.
UM, 'CAUSE LIKE IN THE TOP, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE PAINTING ON THE SKATEABLE SURFACE LIKE THAT ONE IS.
SO YOU, YOU HAVE A LOT LESS TO WORK WITH THAN WHAT'S IN THE, THOSE EXAMPLES.
I JUST FEEL LIKE THERE'S SO MUCH GOING ON, SO MANY LITTLE THINGS, LIKE THERE'S SO LITTLE HERE THAT WHEN YOU PUT 'EM ON A SMALL SPACE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE SO TINY.
I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THIS DESIGN WILL FIT THE, UM, THE AREA THAT YOU HAVE TO WORK WITH.
IT'S GONNA BE SO SMALL, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO REALLY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
UH, I THINK THAT THIS IS, IT'S GREAT ART.
IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM TO BE LIKE, IT CAN BE APPLIED TO A CONCRETE AREA AND LOOK THE SAME AS IT DOES ON HERE.
JUST TO INTERJECT, UM, JUST TO INTERJECT, I CHOSE A COUPLE OF THE EXAMPLES TO THROW IN HERE BECAUSE THE QUALITY OF THE, THE SKATE PARKS SLIDE, WHEN I TRIED TO PRODUCE IT FOR THIS, IT JUST WASN'T OF A HIGH ENOUGH QUALITY.
SO THE ONE THAT SHOWS THE SURFACES WAS ONE OF FIVE EXAMPLES.
SO, UM, JUST TO BE SURE THERE, THERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF ONE ON THE, UH, VERTICAL SURFACE.
THIS WAS ONE OF MY TOP SCORES AND I LOVE THE ARTISTRY OF IT AND I LOVE THE OPTICAL ILLUSION OF MOVEMENT.
UM, BUT AS WE PULLED IT UP TODAY, NOW LOOKING AT IT MORE IN REFERENCE TO JUST THE SPACE THAT WE ARE USING, I'M NOT SURE THAT THE SPACE IN THIS ARTWORK IS ACTUALLY GONNA DO EACH OTHER JUSTICE.
IN A THIRD LOOK AROUND, I WOULD PROBABLY MOVE THIS A LITTLE LOWER ON MY LIST.
I'M IN THE SAME CAMP WITH YOU BOTH.
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THINK THIS IS AMAZING ARTWORK, BUT I FEEL LIKE THIS ARTIST PLAYS A LOT WITH SCALE AND FORCE PERSPECTIVE AND OPTICAL, UM, NUANCE.AND I, I JUST, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A TWO FOOT TALL WALL.
I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA WORK, WHICH TO ME, MAYBE THAT'S MY LIMITATION IN IMAGINING IT THERE, BUT I, I JUST, I THINK OTHERS ARE BETTER SUITED FOR THE SPACE.
UM, MY NOTES ARE PRETTY MUCH EXACTLY THE SAME.
I LIKE THE ART, BUT I DIDN'T THINK IT FIT THE SPACE.
YEAH, I'M NOT AS CONCERNED ABOUT THE SPACE.
I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE CHALLENGE.
UM, I SCORED THIS A LITTLE LESS JUST BECAUSE IT SEEMED LIKE, AND I THINK HE STATES IT, THAT THIS IS, UH, OTHER PIECES THAT HE'S KIND OF PASTED IN HERE.
HE DIDN'T DO ANY ORIGINAL WORK FOR IT.
UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I SCALED IT A LITTLE BIT LOWER.
UM, I THINK THAT THE VERY, VERY CAPABLE, OBVIOUSLY, AND IT'S BEAUTIFUL WORK.
UM, I THINK IT WOULD NEED TO BE, UM, REALLY CUSTOMIZED FOR THIS SPACE USING HIS STYLE.
AND SO, UM, IT'S HARD TO REALLY JUDGE IT.
YOU KNOW, WE KINDA HAVE TO DO THAT, UH, SEE IN THE FUTURE.
I LIKE, I REALLY LIKED HIS WORK, UM, TO ANNE'S EARLIER, UH, POINT, THIS IS, UH, ALTHOUGH THE FORCE PERSPECTIVE IS DIFFERENT, THIS IS VERY REALISTIC IN TERMS OF MURAL AND PETALUMA.
SO THE REALISM, UM, IS NOT NECESSARILY UNIQUE FOR OUR TOWN.
SO I LOVE THIS ARTWORK ARTIST STYLE, LIKE, AND IT'S NOT REALLY SOMETHING THAT I WOULD TYPICALLY BE DRAWN TO, BUT I THINK IT IS JUST SO INTERESTING AND SO WEIRD IN THE BEST WAY.
UM, I ACTUALLY KIND OF APPRECIATED AND THOUGHT THAT, UM, DESPITE NOT CREATING AN ORIGINAL SPECIFIC DESIGN FOR, YOU KNOW, THE SUBMISSION THAT THIS ARTIST WAS ABLE TO TAKE LITTLE BITS AND PIECES THAT WERE SO RELEVANT TO SKATE CULTURE AND REALLY TOLD A STORY IN THE SUBMISSION, LIKE THE, YOU KNOW, THE SHOES JUST FLYING OFF AND THE CONES AND THE ROAD.
AND I JUST, I THINK IT'S, UM, IT JUST SHOWED THAT THERE WAS A DEEP UNDERSTANDING OF, UM, THAT COMMUNITY AND WHAT THEY COULD BUILD.
AND I WOULD BE REALLY EXCITED, UM, TO SEE WHAT THIS ARTIST COULD COME UP WITH FOR THE SPECIFIC SPACE.
I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THE SCALE THAT THIS ARTIST, IT LOOKS LIKE USUALLY WORKS ON IS VERY LARGE.
AND SOME OF THOSE PIECES, UM, ABSOLUTELY WOULDN'T TRANSLATE TO THE SMALL WALL.
BUT I THINK THAT THIS ARTIST SEEMS VERY CAPABLE AND, YOU KNOW, COULD ADJUST THINGS TO, LIKE YOU SAID, LIKE THE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S PART OF THE CHALLENGE.
UM, I JUST THOUGHT THAT THE APPROPRIATENESS AND THE MEANINGFULNESS TO THE COMMUNITY THAT'S GOING TO BE EXPERIENCING THIS MURAL WAS SIGNIFICANT AND WHICH IS WHY I SCORED THIS ARTIST, UM, AS ONE OF THE HIGHEST SUBMISSIONS FOR ME.
THIS IS ONE OF MY HIGHEST UNTIL I WENT BACK AND REVIEWED EVERYTHING ELSE.
AND THEN, BUT I, THE CONCEPT IS WHAT I REALLY LIKED.
UH, IT REALLY SHOWED COLOR AND MOVEMENT AND MY FAVORITE PART WAS THAT HE HAD ZONES, RIGHT? AND SO I THINK, UH, THAT WOULD BE WHAT I WANT FOR ANYTHING WE'D PICK IS TO BE ABLE TO LIKE DIFFERENTIATE THE AREAS.
UH, I LIKE THE MEET ME IN BLUE CONCEPT RIGHT OF THE ZONE.
SO LETTING THE ARTWORK KIND OF DESIGNATE DIFFERENT PARTS OF YOU'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE TO MEET SOMEONE, WHERE TO GO.
I, I, I LOVE THAT CONCEPT AND IT CAN PROBABLY BE DONE WITH OTHER, WHOEVER ELSE WE CHOOSE AS WELL.
UM, SO I THINK, I LOVE THE CONCEPT OF THE MOVEMENT AND THE COLORS AND HOW IT KIND OF HAS A SPECTRUM AND IT FLOWS.
I DIDN'T THINK THAT IT WAS, IT HOLDS UP ARTISTICALLY TO ALL THE OTHER ONES.
UM, SO THAT'S WHY IT CAME DOWN FOR ME.
BUT, UM, REALLY INTERESTING CONCEPT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE ZONES.
YEAH, I THOUGHT THAT THE FLOW OF COLOR WAS REALLY INTERESTING.
UM, AS I READ THE PROPOSAL AND IT WAS TALKING ABOUT THIS CONNECTION
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TO THE PRINTING INDUSTRY, I JUST WAS NEVER ABLE TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION OF SOMETHING THAT FELT, UH, CORRELATED TO, TO OUR COMMUNITY.UM, I, I KNOW THIS COMMUNITY IS MORE THAN JUST AGRICULTURE.
IT'S NOT THAT IT HAS TO BE AGRICULTURE RELATED.
IT JUST, SOMETHING ABOUT IT FELT A DISCONNECT.
I KEPT WONDERING IF IT WAS AI GENERATED, AND I'M ACTUALLY A REALLY BIG AI FAN, SO I WOULDN'T CARE IF IT WAS, BUT IT JUST DISCONNECTED FOR ME.
UM, AFTER THE COLOR FLOW, THIS APPLICATION GOT ME SUPER EXCITED BECAUSE IT WORKS ON A LEVEL THAT WE DON'T ALWAYS SEE THE V THE, THE PERSON WHO'S LOOKING AT THIS PAINT, ARTWORK, WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT, IS GONNA THINK OPTICALLY ON A DIFFERENT LEVEL.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE ANYTHING THAT WOULD CHALLENGE SOMEONE VISUALLY LIKE THIS DOES.
I THINK IT'S A SUPER INTERESTING CONCEPT.
UM, I LIKE THE ZONES, THE CONSUMMATE PROFESSIONAL.
YOU CAN TELL WHOEVER PUT THIS TOGETHER IS, YOU KNOW, CLEARLY THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT MERCH.
SO IT'S A VERY BROAD-BASED CREATIVE DIRECTOR.
UM, SO CAPABILITY IS NOT EVEN, SORRY, A QUESTION FOR ME, I LIKE THE LONGEVITY OF IT.
I LIKE THE MAINTENANCE CONCEPT BEHIND IT, AND I LIKE THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
SO FOR SO MANY REASONS, THIS REALLY HITS TO ME, IT FEELS FRESH, TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN ANYTHING WE HAVE IN PETALUMA.
AND, UM, I DUNNO, I JUST, I WAS VERY IMPRESSED BY THIS PIECE.
UM, AND, AND I CAN AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID.
I REALLY, I WROTE DOWN THAT I LIKE THE FLOW OF THE COLOR.
UM, I THOUGHT IT WAS NICE WORK.
I DID FEEL MORE OF A DISCONNECT WITH PETALUMA, BUT I ALSO THOUGHT MAYBE IT'S OKAY TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT DIDN'T RESONATE WITH OUR BACKGROUND, BECAUSE IT'S SUPPOSED TO RESONATE WITH THE SKATERS.
UM, I WILL ADMIT, I SHOWED SOME OF THESE TO MY CHILDREN.
I SAID, I'VE NEVER BEEN A SKATEBOARDER.
AND MY HUSBAND USED TO SKATEBOARD AND WHAT THEY SAID, NOT IN SPECIFICALLY TO THIS ONE, BUT ALL OF 'EM THAT I SHOWED THEM.
AND THEY SAID WHEN THEY SKATEBOARDED, THEY WEREN'T REALLY LOOKING AROUND AT ART, THEY WERE CONCENTRATING INTERNALLY.
AND SO THEN I THOUGHT, WELL, MAYBE THIS WOULD BE OKAY, BECAUSE IT WASN'T SO VIVID AND, UM, FIGURATIVE.
SO AGAIN, I CAN SEE, UH, BOTH SIDES OF IT.
THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS I LIKED ABOUT IT TOO.
YEAH, I WAS STRUCK BY THIS, UH, SUBMITTAL, JUST BY THE COMPLETENESS OF IT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS, UM, IMPRESSIVE.
UH, I LIKED THE, THE, THE BROAD SPECTRUM OF, OF IDEAS AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IT WAS PROBABLY THE MOST COMPLETE PROPOSAL WE SAW.
IT WAS ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT, UH, ANYBODY ELSE DID.
UM, YEAH, I I ALSO MISSED ON THE PRINTING CONNECTION.
YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T FIND THAT ONE COMPELLING AT ALL.
UM, I THINK THERE COULD BE ANOTHER REASON TO USE THOSE COLORS OR, YOU KNOW, SOME OTHER METAPHOR TO, TO CONNECT IT TO THE RIVER AND THE SKY AND THE HILLS, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER.
UM, AS A GRAPHIC DESIGNER, I, I LOVE THE IDEA OF UTILIZING CMYK AND, AND DOING THAT, BUT IT DIDN'T REALLY CONNECT ON A COMMUNITY LEVEL AT ALL.
SO IT FELT A LITTLE BIT OF A MORE THAN A STRETCH.
UM, I, I AGREE WITH ANN ON THE, THE, THE IDEA THAT THE ABSTRACTION OF IT AND THE ENERGY OF IT, UH, IS SOMETHING THAT IS A LITTLE, WOULD BE A LITTLE CHALLENGING.
UM, IF YOU THINK ABOUT SKATE CULTURE, THERE'S, UH, A LOT OF THE ART, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE DECKS, SOME OF 'EM ARE, YOU KNOW, JUST GEOMETRIC.
SOME OF 'EM ARE FIGURATIVE, BUT A LOT OF IT'S JUST COLOR AND ENERGY.
UM, SO THIS DID FEEL LIKE IT KIND OF MATCHED, UM, JUST THAT CUTTING EDGE VISUAL STYLE.
IT HAPPENS A LOT OF, OF, OF SKATE GRAPHICS.
SO, UM, YEAH, THIS WAS MY TOP SCORE, BUT I'M, LIKE I SAID, I'M A GRAPHIC DESIGNER, SO I NERDED OUT ON HIS SUBMITTAL.
AND, UH, I LIKE THE COMPLETENESS OF IT.
I THINK THE, UH, ADDING SOME COMMUNITY INPUT AND, UH, BRING A LITTLE BIT OF HUMANITY TO IT IN SOME SENSE, UM, MIGHT BE, UH, MIGHT BE HELPFUL.
UH, AND TO, TO REALLY TIE IT A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO PETALUMA, I THOUGHT WOULD BE, UH, OR SOMETHING THAT MADE SENSE TO ALL OF US THAT LIVE HERE.
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WHEN I OPENED THE SUBMISSION, IT KIND OF BLEW MY MIND.I LOVE HOW, I LOVE THE CONCEPT, LIKE OPTICAL COLOR MIXING.
I DEFINITELY LEARNED SOMETHING FROM THIS THAT I WASN'T EXPECTING IN, YOU KNOW, THIS, UM, EXPERIENCE.
BUT I, AT THE SAME TIME, AND LIKE, IS IT APPROPRIATE FOR A SKATE PARK? AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS HAVING TROUBLE SQUARING.
AND IS IT APPROPRIATE, LIKE, DOES IT CONTRIBUTE TO LIKE, THE CONVERSATION OF PETALUMA AND OUR CULTURE AND OUR HISTORY AND IT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO ALWAYS HAVE CHICKEN ON EVERYTHING
I FEEL LIKE THIS COULD BE IN A, YOU KNOW, THIS CONCEPT COULD BE USED LIKE IN A TECH OFFICE ANYWHERE AND LOOK ABSOLUTELY STUNNING AND BEAUTIFUL AND AMAZING AND, YOU KNOW, BE KIND OF, UM, OVERLAYED INTO DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO REALLY DIG DOWN TO MAKE SOMETHING COOL.
BUT I DON'T KNOW, I JUST, I DIDN'T FEEL PERSONALLY THAT OUR DISCONNECTED WITH OUR COMMUNITY IN VERY MUCH.
BUT I JUST LOVE THE CONCEPT SO MUCH.
UM, BUT IT DIDN'T RECEIVE AS HIGH OF A SCORE FOR ME BECAUSE I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE STAKEHOLDERS.
UM, HOW, HOW WOULD WE KIND OF, KIND OF BLEND IT INTO OUR COMMUNITY, IF AT ALL? OR WOULD IT JUST BE THIS VERY CONCEPTUAL PIECE? I DUNNO, I'M REALLY TORN BY THIS ONE
SO THIS IS WYATT HERSEY'S PROPOSAL.
I LIKE THE COLORS AND THE SHAPES.
UH, IT HAS MOVEMENT, BUT NOT IN THE SAME DIRECTIONAL MOVEMENT AS A LOT OF THE OTHER ONES.
I LIKE THE, I PREFERRED THE MOVEMENT THAT REPLICATED HOW YOU WOULD MOVE WHEN YOU SKATE.
AND I FELT LIKE THIS MORE IS MORE LIKE BUILDING BLOCKS THAT DIDN'T HAVE THE SAME TYPE OF MOVEMENT.
I, I LIKE ALL THE COLORS TOGETHER.
I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THEY WERE, UH, THE COLORS FOR A VIVID SKATE PARK.
I THINK THIS ONE MAYBE TO ME, TAILORS TO A MUCH YOUNGER AUDIENCE.
UH, I THINK THAT IT'S, IT LOOKS GREAT.
IT THE, YOU CAN KIND OF GET IT ALL A GLIMPSE, WHEREAS A LOT OF THESE OTHERS HAD A LOT OF MORE THAT COULD BE DISCOVERED OVER TIME.
AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE COMING BACK TO A SAME SKATE PARK AGAIN AND AGAIN, IT'S NICE TO BE ABLE TO FIND NEW THINGS EVERY TIME IN, UH, YOUR SURROUNDINGS.
WHEREAS I FEEL LIKE YOU COULD GET THIS PRETTY QUICKLY AND THEN YOU WON'T BE DISCOVERING NEW SO MUCH.
YEAH, THIS WASN'T IN MY TOP FIVE, UM, BUT IT WASN'T, IT WAS PROBABLY MIDDLE UPPER OF THE PACK.
UH, THE COLORATION AND DESIGN GA REMINDED ME OF SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE LIKE SCANDINAVIAN MID-CENTURY MODERN, AND IT JUST DIDN'T FEEL APPLICABLE TO A SKATE PARK.
YEAH, I, UM, JUST SCORED SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE FOR ME.
I THINK IT'S, UM, PLEASING TO LOOK AT.
I DON'T THINK IT HAS A WHOLE LOT OF ENERGY.
I THINK IT COULD TRANSLATE WELL TO THE SPACE, BUT I FELT LIKE, UM, COMPARED TO SOME OTHER, SOME OF OUR OTHER APPLICATIONS, IT, IT JUST DIDN'T REALLY HAVE THAT, UM, VITALITY THAT WE NEED FOR A SKATE PARK.
UM, YEAH, I DIDN'T WRITE A LOT ON THIS ONE.
I WROTE MUTED COLOR, MUTED ENERGY, DIDN'T SEEM SKATE CULTURE PLEASANT, NOT SUPER COMPELLING.
YEAH, THIS ONE HAS ME A LITTLE CONFUSED BECAUSE I SCORED IT PRETTY WELL.
UM, I THINK I SCORED IT WELL BECAUSE OF THE ARTIST'S WORK.
I LOOKED AT SOME OF THE OTHER PIECES AND I WAS REALLY KIND OF TAKEN WITH THEM AND SAW THE ENERGY.
UH, EVEN THOUGH IT IS A LITTLE BIT MUTED AND A LITTLE
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BIT, UH, SOFT, YOU KNOW, IT HAS A KIND OF A SOFT FEEL.UM, SOME OF THE OTHER PIECES I CAN SEE, OH, I CAN SEE WHERE THIS GETS MORE PERSONALIZED TO OUR TOWN.
THIS GETS A LITTLE BIT MORE LOCALIZED, SO I TOOK THAT LEAP.
UM, I DO LIKE THE COLOR PALETTE, UM, BUT I THINK, UH, AS I'M HEARING PEOPLE TALK ABOUT ENERGY AND, AND, YOU KNOW, UM, THIS PARTICULAR, UH, REPRESENTATION OF IT, YEAH, I THINK IT'S A LITTLE MUTED.
SO, UM, I DID LIKE THIS ARTIST AND THEIR WORK.
I AGREE THAT SOME OF THE OTHER WORK OF THIS ARTIST MAYBE WAS A FRESHER PERSPECTIVE.
I THINK THAT THIS, UH, SPECIFIC DESIGN STYLE IS REALLY TELLS LIKE A STORY OF A TIME AND A PLACE AND IS VERY SPECIFIC TO NOW OR JUST RECENT PAST.
UM, AND I AM JUST WONDERING IF, YOU KNOW, IT WILL STILL, IF IT WILL FEEL FRESH OR ENERGIZING IN THE VERY NEW YORK FUTURE.
UM, I HAD REALLY SIMILAR NOTES TO ANNE THAT IS, YOU KNOW, MUTED AND KIND OF FLAT AND, UM, DIDN'T WOW ME.
BUT I DO LIKE THE COLOR PALETTE.
UM, WELL WE HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE WITH HER, VERY RECENT, RIGHT? SO IT, IT, IT DID VERY, VERY MUCH FEEL LIKE HER STYLE.
I, I REALLY LOVE WHAT SHE JUST DID, UM, IN THE, UH, UM, PARKING GARAGE.
UM, SO I THINK TO ME, I THINK ALL THESE WERE CONCEPTS.
I DON'T THINK MUCH OF THIS WAS ACTUALLY DRAWN BY HER, RIGHT? NOT, NOT YET.
AND THEN THESE PICTURES MAYBE WOULD BE REDRAWN IN HER STYLE OR MORE OF THE GRAFFITI STYLE THING SHE SAID.
SO IT WAS KIND OF HARD FOR ME TO VISUALIZE 'CAUSE THIS IS JUST A CONCEPT.
UM, AND I GUESS I HAVE A HARDER TIME VISUALIZING WHEN IT'S NOT THERE FOR ME.
UM, SO I, I THOUGHT IT WAS GREAT.
I THOUGHT AT LEAST THE WAY SHE'S DONE IT, THIS WAS ONE OF THE ONES WHERE THOSE SMALL AREAS LOOKED LIKE THEY WERE JUST CUTOUTS, RIGHT? UM, AND NOT INTENTIONALLY MADE FOR THAT SPACE.
SO IF WE WENT WITH HER, I THINK SHE'D HAVE TO REWORK THOSE SMALL AREAS SO THAT THEY ARE NOT JUST SNIPPETS.
UM, I REALLY LIKE HER STYLE AND I THINK IT'S VERY, UM, IT, I THINK IT REALLY IS VERY SKATER.
UM, I, I JUST THINK SHE PROBABLY NEEDS A LITTLE MORE EXPERIENCE TO STAND UP TO SOME OF THE PREVIOUS ONES AND SHE WILL GET THAT, UM, A GREAT STYLE THOUGH.
YEAH, I THINK THIS SCORE NUMBER SIX FOR ME, UM, THERE WERE PIECES OF IT THAT I THOUGHT WERE EXCEPTIONALLY STRONG, AND THEN THERE WERE PIECES THAT FELT A LITTLE DISJOINTED.
THEY FELT LIKE THERE WERE STRONGER SUBMISSIONS.
I ALSO, UM, FELT LIKE THERE WERE STRONGER SUBMISSIONS.
UM, SHE HAS SOME INTERESTING ELEMENTS.
I DON'T FEEL LIKE THERE'S ANYTHING PARTICULARLY NEW HERE.
UM, AND IT FELT VERY HEAVILY FEMININE SKEWED FOR ME.
SO WHILE I APPRECIATE THAT IN SOME AREAS, I FEEL LIKE FOR ESCAPE PARK, WE, IT NEEDS TO HAVE A, WE, UM, A BROADER APPEAL THAT WAY.
UM, I WROTE THAT I REALLY LIKED THE COLORS AND I REALLY LIKED THE STYLE OF SOME OF THE PANELS.
AND I WROTE THAT I REALLY LIKED PICTURE NUMBER TWO, BUT NOW I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE THAT WAS.
UM, AND I ALSO FELT THAT SKEWING FEMININE AND, AND THEN I WASN'T SURE WAS THAT A BIAS? MAYBE GUYS WOULD REALLY LIKE THAT.
SO, UM, I JUST FELT THERE WERE STRONGER SUBMISSIONS AS MUCH AS I LIKE HER WORK.
YEAH, I FEEL LIKE, UH, HER PAINTING IS, IS STUNNING.
AND, AND SO THIS AS A SKETCH DIDN'T HAVE THAT ENERGY AND FELT A LITTLE DISJOINTED TO ME.
UM, AND IT DIDN'T SHOW LIKE THAT LEVEL.
AND I UNDERSTAND, AND IT'S JUST HARD FROM THIS, YOU KNOW, FROM SITTING HERE TO KIND OF VISUALIZE WHAT IT COULD LOOK IN HER STYLE.
UM, THIS FELT LIKE SHE WAS TRYING TO BE SKATER A LITTLE BIT TO ME.
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UM, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE SKULL AND CROSS BONES AND SOME OF THESE THINGS.UM, SO IT'S, UH, I LOVE HER WORK.
BUT YEAH, I DIDN'T THINK THIS WAS, UH, THIS WASN'T HIGH IN MY LIST.
I THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS, THERE WAS A REAL LACK OF HARMONY.
UM, AND IT KIND OF JUST WAS A LOT OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT I WISH MAYBE, UM, SHE HAD GONE A LITTLE DEEPER INTO JUST, YOU KNOW, ONE THING, LIKE THERE'S, YOU KNOW, SOME ELEMENTS OF GRAFFITI COULD HAVE BEEN COOL TO SEE MORE, OR SOME ELEMENTS OF LIKE, TATTOO CULTURE.
I JUST, I, UM, THINK THAT THERE ARE, THERE ARE STRONGER SUBMISSIONS AND VINNY RAINER, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THIS RATED FOR ME, BUT I, I DON'T HAVE, UH, I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS, HONESTLY.
YEAH, THIS RATED RELATIVELY LOW FOR ME.
AND I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS.
I THINK I HAVE THIS IN THE MIDDLE, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHY.
UM, I LIKE THE POOL COPING IDEA.
I THINK THAT WAS KIND OF COOL.
IT FELT A LITTLE LIKE VANS ALMOST, BUT MAYBE A LITTLE TOO, UM, UM, DERIVATIVE OF THAT, THE ABSTRACT SHAPES COULD WORK.
BUT I DON'T KNOW, THIS DOESN'T REALLY COME TOGETHER FOR ME SO MUCH.
I DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF NOTES ON THIS ONE EITHER.
IT'S LIKE THERE WERE COLOR AND SOME OF THEM I LIKED, SOME OF 'EM I DIDN'T THINK WORKED.
IT SEEMED LIKE THERE WAS JUST TOO MANY DIFFERENT COLORS.
UM, AND WHAT ELSE DID I WRITE? COLORS, PATTERNS.
I, IT JUST DIDN'T SEEM TO GEL TOGETHER FOR ME, ALTHOUGH THERE WERE PARTS THAT I LIKED.
SO, UM, IT WASN'T ONE OF MY HIGHEST.
YEAH, I LIKE THE, LIKE THE NOD TO HISTORY OF SKATING, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS KIND OF COOL.
UM, I'D INSTANTLY VISUALIZE LIKE, OH, THIS BEING AT THE, THE SKATE PARK BY THE POOL AND LIKE, OH, THAT'S KIND OF COOL.
LIKE THOSE CONNECTIONS, YOU KNOW.
UM, BUT YEAH, THE, THE EXECUTION, UM, IT JUST DOESN'T HAVE A DEEPER DEPTH THAN JUST THAT TO ME.
IT'S BASICALLY FROM THE DESIGN STANDPOINT, I LIKE THE, UH, THE PATTERNS AND, UH, THE REPEATS AND, AND THE, THE LIP OF THE POOL.
UM, BUT IT JUST DIDN'T HAVE ANY MORE DEPTH.
UM, AND IT, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WOULD, IT WOULD DO A GREAT JOB.
IT JUST DIDN'T, UH, DIDN'T REALLY GRAB MY ATTENTION BEYOND SOME OF THE GRAPHICAL REPRESENTATIONS OF IT.
SO I THINK THAT, UM, I, THIS WAS A VERY INTERESTING SCORE FOR ME BECAUSE I RATED IT VERY HIGH FOR LIKE APPROPRIATENESS AND SKATE CULTURE, BUT VERY LOW FOR EVERYTHING ELSE.
'CAUSE IT DOESN'T REALLY GRAB MY ATTENTION.
I APPRECIATED LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU SAID, THE HISTORY AND KIND OF THE NOD TO THE CULTURE.
BUT I DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS ENOUGH TO MAKE THIS A STRONG SUBMISSION.
I MEAN, THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, NOT MANY OF US HAD MANY COMMENTS ABOUT IT.
MAYBE IT ISN'T REALLY EVOKING MUCH.
THAT'S THE FINAL SUBMISSION IN THE TOP 10.
AND WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE YOUR INDIVIDUAL SCORE SHEETS AGAIN? OR IS THIS A, IS THIS ENOUGH? OKAY.
I MEAN, I'VE DEFINITELY BEEN IN YOUR SHOES BEFORE AND SO HOW I, HOW I MOVED FORWARD WITH THESE CONVERSATIONS.
I WOULD OFTEN SAY LIKE, WHAT'S MY PRIORITY NOW THAT I'VE REFLECTED AND HEARD FROM YOU ALL? LIKE, WHAT DO I REALLY SIT STRONGLY WITH? WHAT DO I THINK? IT STARTS HAVING A COMMONALITY ACROSS YOUR SHARED PERSPECTIVES AND LOOK AT IT FROM THAT POINT OF VIEW.
LIKE, THERE'S DEFINITELY SUBMISSIONS WHERE PEOPLE HAD NO FEEDBACK OR FELT LIKE A STRONG NO.
AND I THINK IT'S, IT'S GOOD TO HEAR THAT AND TO HEAR THE STRONG POSITIVES TOO.
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I JUST WANNA NOTE THAT JARED BENSON IS LISTED TWICE ON HERE.IF THERE'S ANY CONFUSION ON THIS ONE.
'CAUSE THE SCORING'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
ANY SCORES? WELL THE, NO, THE TOTAL'S THE SAME, BUT I LOOKED AT, I WAS STARTING AT THE TOP AND I THOUGHT, WELL WHY ISN'T JAR BETSON HIGHLIGHTED? BECAUSE IT WAS DEFINITELY ONE OF OUR TOP SCORES.
AND THEN IT'S, SORRY, IS LISTED UNDER ASH AGAIN.
SO DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY IDEAS ON THE BEST WAY TO, TO MOVE THROUGH THIS? I THINK LIKE TAKING OFF IS EASIER YEAH.
TO START, I DUNNO IF ANYONE ELSE DISAGREES.
IS THERE ANYONE THAT'S, UH, HAS AN ISSUE WITH THESE TOP FIVE AS THEY ARE HERE? IS THERE, UH, ARE THESE THE TOP FIVE WE SHOULD BE CONSIDERING? OR, OR IS THERE SOMETHING MISSING THAT WE REALLY THINK SHOULD BE IN THE TOP FIVE TO TALK ABOUT? SINCE ASH GREGORIO WAS ON THE TOP FIVE AND I DON'T THINK ANY OF US REALLY, DESPITE THE, WHAT WE FEEL ABOUT OUR WORK, WE DON'T KNOW THAT IT WAS GONNA WORK.
UM, IT DOESN'T STAND UP COMPARED TO SOME OF THE OTHER APPLICANTS.
SO IF WE'RE GONNA ELIMINATE, OH, OH, I'M SORRY.
I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT THE TOP FIVE, BUT SURE.
I WOULD PROPOSE WE ELIMINATE SIX THROUGH 10 'CAUSE IT FEELS LIKE ONE THROUGH FIVE WE HAVE A SOLID GROUP TO CONSIDER.
WELL, MY QUESTION IS, IS THAT ONE THROUGH FIVE GOOD FOR EVERYONE? BECAUSE I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE TALKED ABOUT LIKE JARED BENSON AND HE'S NUMBER SEVEN.
SO THAT'S MY QUESTION IS, IS THIS ONE THROUGH FIVE HERE ACCEPTABLE FOR EVERYONE TO TALK ABOUT? ARE WE MISSING SOMETHING OUT OF THERE WE THINK IS IMPORTANT? I DO THINK, UM, FOR ME, UM, EVAN WILSON WASN'T IN MY TOP FIVE AND I TOTALLY HEAR EVERYONE ELSE'S, UM, PERSPECTIVE ON THAT.
I DO, I THINK THAT, UM, TIMOTHY R. SMITH, UM, FOR ME, I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT THAT ONE ISN'T IN CONSIDERATION OF THE TOP FIVE.
UM, BUT HAPPY TO, OR I GUESS JARED BENSON TOO IS A CLOSE ONE.
I JUST WOULD LIKE TO HEAR MORE DISCUSSION ON MAYBE THOSE TWO BEING LIKE WITH THAT GROUP OF TOP FIVE, I WOULD SECOND MOVING JARED BENSON INTO THE TOP FIVE.
SO WHO WOULD YOU BE REMOVING? I WOULD PROPOSE MOVING MONTY, UM, MONTY GUY FROM THE TOP FIVE AND REPLACING WITH JARED BENSON.
I WOULD SECOND REMOVING HIM FROM TOP FIVE.
REPLACING WITH, WHAT WAS IT? BENSON? YEAH.
I MIGHT RECOMMEND THAT YOU ALL HEARD EACH OTHER'S COMMENTS.
SO IF THERE'S SOMEBODY THAT WAS LIKE A STRONG NO TO SOMETHING ALSO THAT THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, OR IF THERE WERE MULTIPLE KIND OF, NOT NOS, BUT LIKE NOT MY FAVORITE THAT YOU MIGHT, I MEAN, IT'S A TRICKY ONE BECAUSE YOU ULTIMATELY YOU WANNA GET TO ONE.
SO EVEN MOVING PEOPLE AROUND TO A FIVE DOESN'T REALLY HELP YOUR CONVERSATION.
WELL, I THINK ONE TO DEFINITELY KEEP IN THE RUNNING THAT SEEMED LIKE EVERYONE WAS GOOD WITH WAS ADRIAN.
AND SO IF WE'RE TRYING TO NARROW IT DOWN TO TWO OR THREE, I THINK HE SHOULD BE ONE OF THOSE.
I I HEARD EVERYONE PRETTY MUCH CONSENSUS.
IF WE GO BACK AGAIN TO THE SQUARE SHEET, PLEASE.
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RANK IT AS HIGH.UM, I THINK RISE IS COLLECTIVE IF I WERE TO RESCORE AGAIN, UM, AND I HEARD RELATIVELY CONSISTENT FEEDBACK ON THAT ONE.
UM, SO THAT'S ANOTHER ONE I REALLY APPRECIATED.
IT WAS ONE OF MY TOP BUT THAT WAS A MORE DIVERSE FEEDBACK IT SEEMED LIKE, UM, VERSUS THE OTHER TWO FELT PRETTY CONSISTENT.
AND I HAD ORIGINALLY HAD, UM, ROBIN AS MY TOP NUMBER ONE, BUT IT WAS MENTIONED THAT SKATERS PROBABLY AREN'T GOING TO BE SPENDING A LOT OF TIME LOOKING DEEPLY AT THESE, UH, UH, WHAT, WHAT THE, THE ART THEY'RE SKATING AROUND.
SO MAYBE SOMETHING THAT IS MORE ABSTRACT OR, UM, PATTERNED IS GOING TO BE BETTER.
SO I PERSONALLY WOULD, WOULD RETRACT HAVING HER AS MY TOP ONLY BECAUSE I, I THINK IT'S, IT'S SO ARTSY, BUT MIGHT GET LOST.
AND EVERYONE'S SKATING AROUND AND LIKE YOU SAID, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE SEEING IT OUTSIDE OF THE SKATE PARK.
SO UNLESS YOU'RE PARTICIPATING IN THE SKATING, YOU WON'T BE VIEWING IT.
CAN YOU REPEAT WHICH ONE YOU WANTED TO MOVE UP TO? THE TOP FIVE? I THINK WE WERE TAKING, WE WERE GOING TO, UM, MOVE JARED UP FROM NUMBER SEVEN TO SOMETHING TO DISCUSS AS A TOP FIVE.
SO THE TOP FIVE AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW ARE EVAN WILSON, ROBIN DRUN, ADRIAN ARIAS, REESE'S COLLECTIVE, AND MON, UM, TIMOTHY, I'M SORRY.
SO MOVING JARED BENSON FROM SEVEN TO FIVE.
I, I HEARD A LOT OF PEOPLE TALK ABOUT HIM TO WHERE I WOULD PUT HIM IN A DEFINITELY TO CONSIDER WITH ADRIAN.
DO YOU WANT ME TO SHOW THOSE PROPOSAL PAGES AGAIN? SURE.
THERE'S NO WAY WE CAN GET THEM SIDE BY SIDE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
IS THERE? NO, I CAN'T ZOOM OUT.
UM, ELIMINATE PAGES SO THAT THEY OKAY.
COULD, COULD YOU SHOW LIKE THE TOP FIVE PLUS THE ONE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MOVING UP? I'M GONNA STOP SHARING AND GO INTO THE PROPOSAL PAGES SO YOU CAN SEE.
'CAUSE SOME OF THEIR GRAPHICS ARE BETTER THAN WHAT I WAS ABLE TO MOVE.
I THINK THAT MIGHT BE THE BEST WAY FOR THE, FOR EVERYBODY WOULD BE ABLE TO CHECK SOMEBODY OFF, LIKE TO TAKE THE SCORE SHEET AND INTERACTIVELY START CROSSING THINGS.
'CAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE'S OPINIONS HAVE MAYBE CHANGED FROM WHAT THEY ORIGINALLY SCORED.
SO THERE'S PART OF ME THAT'S JUST INTERESTED OF LIKE, WHAT WOULD EACH PERSON'S TOP THREE BE MM-HMM
DO WE HAVE SOME OVERLAP? LIKE I HEAR ADRIAN, I HEAR JARED.
IS THERE LIKE ONE MORE THAT WE ALL AGREE ON AND MAYBE WE JUST MOVE FORWARD WITH REVIEWING THOSE THREE SUBMISSIONS? YEAH.
IT, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO, I DON'T NEED TO SEE THE SCORE SHEETS BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE CHANGED THEIR OPINIONS.
YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD RATHER SEE THE ART.
JUST PUT UP A NEW, WHAT NAMES ARE WE TALKING ABOUT NOW? BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY NAMES.
CAN WE JUST LIKE, ADRIAN, JARED, EVAN
I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, MAYBE COMPARE, UM, EVAN WILSON WITH ADRIAN ARIAS, THEY BOTH HAD A SIMILAR COLOR PALETTE.
THEY'RE BOTH USING VERY GEOMETRICAL LAYOUT.
UM, BUT I, AND ADRIAN OF COURSE WAS THE ONE WITH THE FISH MOTIF AND EVAN WAS MORE OF, UM, SORT OF A SPRAY PAINT IT LIKE, KIND OF MUTES OFF AT THE END AND, BUT ALSO A LOT OF GEOMETRIES.
BUT I FELT LIKE THOSE TWO HAD A SIMILARITY.
UM, SO OUT OF THE TWO, I PERSONALLY WOULD KEEP ADRIAN BECAUSE I FELT LIKE STYLISTICALLY THEY WERE VERY, THEY CAME OUT OF THE GATE PRETTY SIMILAR.
UM, BUT EVAN SEEMED TO HAVE HAD MORE NEGATIVE FEEDBACK FROM THE GROUP THAN ADRIAN.
CAN WE TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE? YEAH, SURE.
I, I THINK THERE'S MORE TO BE SEEN AND NOTICED IN RETURN VISITS WITH ADRIAN.
I THINK IT'S EASIER TO CAPTURE EVANS AT A GLANCE OR A FEW TIMES.
BUT YOU, THERE'S SO MUCH GOING ON HERE, YOU CAN KEEP FINDING NEW
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ELEMENTS.YEAH, I THINK THE LONGEVITY OF ADRIAN'S WORK IS, IS PRETTY OUTSTANDING.
AFTER REVIEW THIS WOULD BE MY TOP CHOICE.
SO DOES ANYONE WANNA ARGUE THAT WE SHOULD KEEP EVAN WILSON IN THE TOP FIVE GOING ONCE? SURE.
I'M BASING MOST OF MY OPINION ON HIM FOR HIS, HIS GREATER BODY OF WORK, YOU KNOW, SO THAT WAS TOUCHING FOR ME AND I REALLY ENJOY IT.
I'VE SEEN IT AROUND, YOU KNOW, SNOW CONING,
SO I, I DON'T HAVE TO HOLD ONTO HIM.
YOU KNOW, I BASICALLY WAS LIKE, UH, AND THE STRENGTH OF JUST THIS SUBMISSION, UM, I THINK ADRIAN'S IS BETTER.
AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO OPEN UP CONVERSATION ON ROBIN.
UM, I, WHILE I LIKE HER WORK, I, IT FEELS A BIT YOUNG AND IT FEELS MORE LIKE AN ART PROJECT THAN A, A PIECE OF COMMUNITY ART IN A, IN A WAY.
IT DOESN'T HAVE THE BREADTH AND DEPTH THAT I'M LOOKING FOR.
SHE WAS ORIGINALLY MY TOP, BUT I, I ALSO BELIEVE THAT SOME OF IT MAY GET MISSED IN THE FACT THAT PEOPLE ARE COMING TO SKATE AND NOT LOOK AT THE ARTWORK.
AND, UM, SO I, I WOULD ALSO RETRACT MY, MY BID FOR HER AS TOP FIVE.
ALTHOUGH I, I THINK IT'S REALLY AMAZING AND I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THERE'S ALSO PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST VISITING THE PARK WHO WILL ENGAGE WITH IT TOO.
SO NOT, YOU KNOW, THE ARTWORK MUST STANDALONE TOO.
IT'S AN ACCOMPANIMENT TO THE SKATE PARK.
BUT, UM, I DON'T WANT THAT TO DETRACT FROM YOUR THINKING PROCESS TO LOOK AT IT AS A SKATEBOARDER DOESN'T LOOK AT ART WHILE THEY'RE ON IT.
UM, IF THEY'RE EATING LUNCH BESIDE IT, THEY'RE DEFINITELY GONNA BE LOOKING AT IT TOO.
SO IT'S GONNA, IT'S GONNA HAVE AN IMPACT.
AND ALL THE PARENTS THAT HAVE TO STAND THERE AND WATCH THEIR KIDS SKATE AROUND, YEAH, THEY MIGHT BE SKATING TOO.
I THINK IF OUR GOAL IS TO GET TO ONE PIECE COMPARED TO ADRIAN'S, I, I WOULD HANDS DOWN, UM, SAY ADRIAN'S IS A STRONGER SUBMISSION.
SO IF OUR GOAL TONIGHT IS TO SELECT ONE, THEN, UM, THAT FOR ME PERSONALLY IS AN EASY CHOICE.
CAN WE DISCUSS THE RAISES COLLECTIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE? I JUST WANNA KINDA, IF WE'RE GONNA TAKE THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST WANNA HEAR ANY OTHER THOUGHTS BEFORE WE GO THERE? DO YOU WANT ME TO REMOVE ROBIN FROM THE CONVERSATION? I AM NOT READY TO REMOVE ROBIN.
I AM CONCERNED THOUGH THAT, UM, WE'VE, WE'VE TALKED A LOT IN MANY OF THESE ABOUT MAKING SURE IT APPEALS TO ALL COMMUNITIES.
AND I'M JUST WORRIED THAT THIS, UH, IS A LITTLE, IS NARROWING IT DOWN TO ONE COMMUNITY AND WON'T REACH EVERYONE, OR, UM, THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN.
I DISAGREE BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE ANYBODY CAN SEE THE BEAUTY AND THE, THE PATTERNING AND THE TILE WORK AND THE GEOMETRIES AND, I MEAN, I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE TO KNOW THE HISTORY OF, OF THIS TYPE OF ARTWORK.
UM, BUT I, I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE STRONGEST PIECE BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THE COLOR BLOCKING IS VERY AWKWARD.
I MEAN, IF I KNOW THE HISTORY, I CAN APPRECIATE IT A LOT MORE, BUT AT FIRST PASS, TO ME, THIS JUST DOESN'T, I, I REALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF THE COLLECTIVE AND THE PEOPLE AND THE STORY MORE THAN THE ART ITSELF.
AND THAT'S WHERE I GET HUNG UP ON THIS PIECE.
I THINK I NEEDED TO HEAR THAT.
'CAUSE I WAS REALLY HANGING ON TO THIS, UM, PIECE BECAUSE OF ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED.
BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, I AM COMING TO THIS PIECE FROM, UH, LIKE A POINT OF KNOWING THE REFERENCE.
AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT, THEN IT MIGHT FEEL DISJOINTED AND YEAH, I THINK, UM, I THINK ADRIAN'S AGAIN, IF WE'RE KIND OF PUTTING THEM SIDE TO SIDE IS STRONGER.
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CAN WE PUT THOSE TWO SIDE TO SIDE OR BACK AND FORTH? ADRIAN'S AND THE RA'S COLLECTOR.UM, SO HERE IS ADRIAN'S AND THAT IS THE RA'S COLLECTOR.
I THINK ADRIAN'S IS MORE UNIQUE.
AND IS IT, IS WHAT THEY WERE COPYING.
IT'S THERE, BUT THIS IS THE ARTIST, RIGHT? THIS ONE IS EVERYONE COMFORTABLE REMOVING RAISES COLLECTIVE FROM OUR TOP.
SO THAT BRINGS US TO ADRIAN, ROBIN AND, UH, JARED.
SO I GUESS MY OPINION WASN'T AS, UH, I DIDN'T REALLY AGREE WITH, UM, I DON'T, I I LIKE THE OTHERS BETTER THAN JARED BENSON.
I LIKE MONTY'S ADRIAN'S ROBINS BETTER THAN THIS ONE.
I'M, I FEEL LIKE THE ODD MAN OUT, BUT IT, IT DOESN'T, I LIKE IT, BUT IT DIDN'T REALLY SING TO ME LIKE THE OTHERS DID.
I FELT THE OTHERS HAD MUCH MORE VIBRANCY AND SKATE PARK CULTURE.
UM, I WOULD LOVE IT ON A BUILDING.
I WOULD LOVE IT IN MY OFFICE, BUT IT DIDN'T SING AS SKATE PARK CULTURE TO ME.
BUT IS IT APPROPRIATE FOR THE APPLICATION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? IT'S VERY, UM, CONCEPTUAL, WHICH IS GREAT ABOUT IT.
EVENTUALLY A CONCEPT CAN GET OVERWORKED, RIGHT? YOU, YOU'VE SEEN IT ENOUGH, IT MAY LOSE ITS APPEAL.
UM, I WOULDN'T DEFEND IT AGAINST THE OTHER TWO.
YEAH, I I GUESS IT'S, I'M TRYING TO CONCEPTUALIZE IT AND DETERMINE IF THE AMOUNT OF SPACE WE HAVE THIS CONCEPT IS ACTUALLY GONNA TRANSFER BECAUSE IT FEELS LIKE WE WOULD NEED A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF SURFACE AREA.
BUT I, I DON'T KNOW THAT, THAT'S NOT MY EXPERTISE.
I WOULD SAY WITH THE THREE THAT WE HAVE LEFT, THIS WOULD BE MY NUMBER TWO.
I THINK THE CONCEPT IS WHY, WHAT WOULD SET PETALUMA APART IN HAVING A SKATEBOARD PARK THAT IS NOT SO LITERAL AND FIGURATIVE.
I THINK THAT IF SKATERS ARE MOVING BY, THEY CAN RECOGNIZE THE COLOR OF THE ZONE AS, AS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE FLYING THROUGH THE SPACE.
SO, BUT I DO HEAR YOU ABOUT HOW DOES THIS TRANSLATE TO A SIX INCH BY 10 FOOT LONG WALL? IS THAT GONNA READ? AND SO IF WE COULD PAINT THE HOLE OUTSIDE, I THINK THAT'D BE SUPER AMAZING.
UM, BUT YEAH, SO I, I DON'T KNOW WHERE I STAND ON IT YET, BUT I FEEL LIKE, UM, I LOVE THE IDEA THAT STRETCHES OUR THINKING.
SO THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY ABOUT THIS ONE.
UM, AGAIN, IT, IT GOT ME THINKING.
UM, IT WAS NOT LITERAL, UH, THE MOTION AND THE, THE IDEA OF GOING PAST THIS AND, YOU KNOW, THEIR, THEIR VISION WOULD BE BLURRING AND KIND OF CREATING NEW COLORS.
UM, IT FELT VERY CUTTING EDGE.
IT FELT, UM, PUSHING SOME LIMITS.
AGAIN, I AGREE WITH THE, UH, THE CONNECTION TO PETALUMA IS, IS, UH, NOT THERE.
UM, BUT UH, IT FELT VERY, IT FELT LIKE IT WAS PUSHING THE LIMITS THAT MOST OF OUR PUBLIC ART DOESN'T MM-HMM
UM, SO THAT HAS ME MOST EXCITED ABOUT IT.
BUT, UM, IT'S ALSO RISKY IN TERMS OF JUST, YOU KNOW, NOT EVERYBODY'S GONNA GET IT.
AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT UPSETTING, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT UGLY.
JUST, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT DEEPER LEVEL IS, UH, NOT GONNA BE SEEN BY EVERYBODY.
SO, UM, BUT YEAH, THIS WAS MY FAVORITE.
SO CAN I ASK A QUESTION THEN? MAYBE I JUST DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT AND I WAS TAKING THE WHOLE DESIGN TOO, LITERALLY.
SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THE SKATERS WILL SEE IT DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE THEY'RE MOVING?
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YEAH, POTENTIALLY.I MEAN, THE IDEA IS THAT YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF YELLOW AND A LITTLE BIT OF PINK IS GONNA KIND OF CREATE AN ORANGEY HUE, RIGHT? SO, UH, WHAT, WHAT HE WAS MENTIONING IN TERMS OF THE CMYK PROCESSES, YOU KNOW, DOTS OVER EACH OTHER WOULD, WOULD BLEND INTO THE, TO OTHER COLORS.
UM, WHETHER THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IN REAL LIFE AT THIS SCALE, UH, ACTUALLY WORKS.
BUT, UH, THE CONCEPT WAS INTRIGUING AND IT WAS ABSTRACT AND IT WAS UNEXPECTED.
AND JUST THE PROFESSIONALISM, THE WHOLE PRESENTATION, UH, WAS IMPRESSIVE.
BUT, UH, THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT TOOK, YOU KNOW, SHOWED A COMMITMENT TO ME THAT I WAS LIKE, OH, THIS PERSON'S GONNA DO WELL, BUT IT'S NOT VERY EMOTIONALLY GRABBING.
IT'S, IT'S KIND OF SCIENTIFIC, IT'S KIND OF INTERESTING, BUT IT'S NOT EMOTIONAL.
YEAH, IT'S AN A LOT OPTICAL ILLUSION.
AND I THINK SOME PLACES THIS PERSON DOES IT ARE MORE SUCCESSFUL THAN OTHERS.
LIKE FOR INCIDENTALLY, IN THE SMALLER SPACES, LIKE IF YOU LOOK AT SKETCH THREE, FIVE, AND SIX, THAT WORKS BECAUSE IF YOU GET CLOSE, YOU'RE GONNA SEE BLUE AGAINST PINK OR CYAN AGAINST MAGENTA.
AND IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT FOR
SO I THINK IF YOU HAVE TO EXPLAIN IT TO PEOPLE, IT'S GONNA GET LOST.
UM, I'D LOVE TO SEE THIS SOMEWHERE ELSE IN LARGE FORMAT IN PETALUMA BECAUSE CONCEPTUALLY IT, IT IS FRESH AND CUTTING EDGE AND SO MUCH BEYOND WHAT WE HAVE THAT I REALLY LIKE THE NOTION OF BRINGING IN SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE LESS PROVINCIAL.
UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS IS THE RIGHT SPACE.
SO HE WAS MY NUMBER ONE AND I THINK I'VE DEMOTED HIM TO NUMBER TWO.
IT'S FUNNY, I CAUGHT MYSELF WISHING THAT THIS WAS, UH, BIKE LANES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
'CAUSE I REALLY WAS LIKE, WOW, IT'D BE SO EFFECTIVE.
OR LIKE FREEWAY WALLS OR SOMETHING WHERE YOU COULD SEE IT IN A, IN A REALLY PROFESSED WAY.
IT'S A GREAT CONCEPT OF WHAT IF IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY WORK AND IT, 'CAUSE IT'S ALL RIDING ON THE FACT THAT IT WORKS.
IF IT DOESN'T WORK, THEN IT JUST LINES RIGHT, RIGHT UNDER A FREEWAY.
WELL THANK YOU GUYS FOR THE EXPLANATION.
'CAUSE I DIDN'T REALLY PICK UP ON THAT WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT IT AND READING IT, SO THANK YOU.
SO NOW THAT WE'RE DOWN TO THREE, UM, ADRIAN, 'CAUSE WE DIDN'T REALLY REMOVE JARED AND ROBIN.
MAYBE WE SHOULD GO THROUGH COLLECTIVELY AND SAY WHAT OUR TOPS ARE AND SEE IF THE, IF WE JUST HAVE IT IN THE VOTES.
PUT YOUR, PUT YOUR TOP ONE FORWARD.
BUT CAN WE HAVE PROVISIONS IN YOUR, UH, WHEN WE ACCEPT THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO MAYBE SEE TWEAKED? 'CAUSE WE HAD TALKED ABOUT A COUPLE THINGS GOING AWAY FROM JUST FISH IF POSSIBLE AND BRIGHTENING THE COLORS, RIGHT? MM-HMM
YEAH, THAT THE FISH WAS WHAT PUT ME OFF.
TO BE HONEST, I LIKED SO MUCH ABOUT IT, THE PATTERNS, THE COLORS.
UM, IT WASN'T AS VIBRANT AS THE OTHERS, WHICH TO ME I WAS THINKING THE SKATE PARK NEEDS TO BE MORE VIBRANT.
IT ALMOST LOOKS LIKE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE HOLOGRAPHIC.
DOES IT SOME OF THESE COLOR COLORS, LIKE THE GOLD AND GREEN ESPECIALLY, IT LOOKS ALMOST METALLIC, RIGHT? THAT'S A BETTER WORD FOR IT.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE, UM, WE REALLY REACH OUT TO THE YOUNG SKATE OR THE SKATE COMMUNITY AND HAVE THEM WEIGH IN AT A WORKSHOP ON, ON WHAT'S AN ALTERNATIVE TO FISH OR WHAT'S A BETTER, WHAT COLOR PALETTE WOULD MAKE YOU FEEL AT HOME HERE.
UM, AND THAT'S WHERE WE CAN PULL IN THEIR INPUT THAT DOESN'T REALLY, YOU KNOW, STEP ON HIS DESIGN OR HIS, HIS UM, HIS PARTICULAR STYLE THAT ACTUALLY MIGHT HELP INFORM IT.
I REALLY WANT THE SKATE PARK PEOPLE TO HAVE SOME INPUT.
WOULD YOU LIKE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE A STRAW VOTE ON THIS? OR HOW, OR MAKE A MOTION?
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SURE.UM, I MAKE A MOTION TO SELECT ADRIAN AREAS FOR THE SKATE PARK DESIGN.
SECOND, IS ANYONE NOT IN FAVOR OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO THE REMAINING MEMBERS IF YOU'D LIKE TO SAY OR YAY OR NAY.
OKAY, SO I DO HAVE A QUESTION.
SHOULD WE HAVE A BACKUP JUST IN CASE? SHOULD WE DECIDE ON A SECOND CHOICE? WHAT IF, I DON'T KNOW.
ADRIAN DECIDED HE COULDN'T DO IT FOR SOME REASON, OR, WELL, THERE COULD BE TIMELINE ISSUES.
YOU KNOW, ANYTHING COULD HAPPEN.
SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A SECONDARY CANDIDATE, AND I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT EVERY SUBMISSION WILL BE RECORDED SO THAT WHEN WE HAVE UPCOMING PROJECTS, WE KNOW WHO TO REACH OUT TO.
WE, WE'VE GOT SUCH A BREADTH OF CONCEPTS THAT I THINK IT REALLY OPENED OUR EYES TO A, A TON OF ARTISTS IN OUR REGION AND BEYOND.
I THINK BETWEEN THE OTHER TWO WE'RE GONNA BE PRETTY 50 50.
I WAS JUST ASKING IF WE SHOULD DISCUSS THAT AND, AND HAVE A LITTLE, WHAT DO THEY CALL IT? A, A BACK POCKET, UH, SECOND CHOICE, BUT, WELL, WHY DON'T WE TAKE A VOTE ON THAT STARTING WITH WHY DON'T WE EACH SAY OUR, OUR OUR BACKUP ROBIN SELECTION? UM, MY SECOND CHOICE PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE IN THE TOP THREE.
SO THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN WITH SELECTING OUT OF THE TOP THREE.
LIKE THERE WERE PEOPLE I ELIMINATED BECAUSE ADRIAN WAS THE CHOICE.
RIGHT? BUT IF ADRIAN WASN'T THE CHOICE, IT YEAH, THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER PEOPLE THAT I'D WANT RECONSIDERED.
IT'S SITUATIONAL, RIGHT? WE WE'D HAVE TO, YEAH, WE HAVE TO KEEP IN THE TOP WE'RE, BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY, WE'VE ALREADY GOTTEN TO THE TOP RIGHT.
BUT THREE OR FIVE I CONSENTED TO REMOVING CERTAIN PEOPLE NOT BECAUSE I CONSIDERED WHO WE HAD LEFT AS THE NUMBER ONE, TWO, AND THREE, RIGHT? IT WAS LIKE ADRIAN WAS NUMBER ONE.
SO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THERE, LIKE THE ASSUMPTION THAT THOSE ARE OUR ONE, TWO AND THREE, I DON'T KNOW THAT I AGREE WITH.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO JUST STATE YOUR SECOND CHOICE AND THEN WE CAN SEE IF THERE'S CO UM, COHESION NONSTOP? SURE.
UM, MY SECOND CHOICE WOULD BE RISES COLLECTIVE.
MY SECOND CHOICE IS JARED BENSON.
SO WE CAN JUST SAY ANY OTHER SECOND CHOICE.
AT THIS POINT,
UH, YEAH, EVAN WILSON WOULD BE MY SECOND CHOICE.
SO AMONGST THAT, WE HAVE TWO FOR ROBIN, UM, THREE FOR ROBIN.
AND SO IF YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THAT AS YOUR COLLECTIVE SECOND CHOICE.
OR IF YOU WANNA DISCUSS RACES OR, UM, JARED BENSON OR EVAN WILSON.
I'M HAPPY TO PULL THOSE SLIDES AGAIN.
WE BASICALLY JUST SAID THE OTHER OF THE TOP FIVE, SO I, I DON'T, DO WE REALLY NEED TO DISCUSS IT? UNLESS WE NEED TO GO TO A BACKUP? YEAH, BECAUSE WE JUST SAID THE OTHER FOUR.
IF WE NEED TO GO TO A BACKUP, WE'LL OPEN UP THE DISCUSSION AGAIN.
WELL, I WOULD RATHER YOU MAKE A CHOICE TONIGHT BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE HOW MEETING STRUCTURES GO.
AND WE'LL NEED A SELECTION IF WE DO GO INTO CONTRACT WITH HIM AND THE TIMELINE DOESN'T ALIGN THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN I'M HAVING TO PULL A MEETING OUT OF NOWHERE WITH NO INFORMATION.
SO THAT'S NOT GONNA BE VERY HELPFUL.
WAS THERE JUST ONE, ONE VOTE FOR EVAN? YES.
WERE THERE TWO VOTES FOR JARED OR ONE? ONE, YEAH, I THINK JARED OR EVAN WOULD BE GOOD BACKUP OPTIONS.
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AND THEN YOU SAID THERE WERE THREE VOTES FOR ROBIN, IS THAT RIGHT? YES.SO I JUST WANNA SAY DESPITE, I LIKE ROBIN'S PAL AND EVERYTHING, BUT I THINK HER WORK IS FAIRLY PROVINCIAL.
I DON'T THINK IT ELEVATES PETALUMA VERY MUCH.
I THINK IT'S PLEASING AND HAPPY AND ALL THE THINGS.
BUT IF WE'RE, IF, IF OUR OBJECTIVE IS TO CREATE PIECES FOR PETALUMA THAT ARE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, INSPIRE PEOPLE AND ATTRACT PEOPLE, I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO FIND ARTWORK THAT'S A LITTLE MORE POLISHED.
I FEEL LIKE AN ELEVATED THAN, THAN HER STYLE.
THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION.
I DO THINK THAT SHE DOES HAVE A REALLY UNIQUE STYLE AND I, UM, IF YOU'VE SEEN SOME OF HER OTHER PIECES, THE STAINED GLASS EFFECT THAT SHE DOES, UM, IS REALLY INTERESTING AND CREATES A LOT OF VISUAL INTEREST.
THIS IS REALLY HARD FOR ME 'CAUSE I'M LIKE TRYING TO KEEP MY, WHAT I KNOW OF HER PERSONALLY.
I'M NOT SURE IF I CAN HAVE YOU VOTE ON THIS.
LIKE IT FEELS TOTALLY INAPPROPRIATE JUST FROM WHERE I'M STANDING.
YEAH, BECAUSE YOU HAVE A CONNECTION TO THEM JUST TRYING TO LIKE, COMMENT ON HER STYLE OF ARTWORK.
I MEAN WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT TOPS BUT THEN, BUT THERE'S SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE REALLY OPPOSED TO THE OTHER TOP ONES.
BUT IS THERE ANY THAT MAYBE AREN'T YOUR TOP BUT WE ALL ARE NOT OPPOSED TO LIKE, IT SEEMED LIKE JARED, EVERYONE DID LIKE HIM.
IT WAS ODD BECAUSE MY TOP WAS JARED AND THEN I WAS LIKE, IF, IF ADRIAN DOESN'T COME THROUGH, DO I STILL VOTE FOR JARED AGAIN? LIKE I WOULD OF COURSE VOTED FOR HIM AGAIN 'CAUSE HE WAS MY TOP.
SO THAT WAS A LITTLE CONFUSING.
AND, AND THIS ONE'S HARD TO FOLLOW THE CONVERSATION SINCE WE DID BRING ALL THEM, IT FELT LIKE IT KIND OF UN DESTABILIZED EVERYTHING WE'D WORKED TOWARDS.
SO I'D REALLY LIKE, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE TWO VOTES FOR ROBIN WHERE THERE'S NOT TWO VOTES FOR THE REST.
BUT I ALSO WANT YOU TO, AMONGST YOURSELVES, FIND A COMPROMISE WHERE THERE'S SOMETHING YOU CAN LIVE WITH THAT YOU REALLY DO ENJOY, THAT YOU DON'T THINK IS THE ULTIMATE POOR FIT AND WORK WITHIN THAT CONVERSATION.
I KNOW THAT SOUNDS A LITTLE WORDY AND, BUT, UM, WE DO HAVE TO FIND CONSENSUS HERE IN A WAY THAT FEELS JUDICIOUS.
THEN I'D BE OKAY TO, TO GO WITH JARED.
THEY'RE TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT CONCEPTS, BUT BOTH VERY INTERESTING.
SO I'D BE FINE WITH JARED AS A BACKUP.
I AM OKAY WITH JARED S NUMBER TWO.
AND KATE, YOU CAN SAY HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT CHOICE.
'CAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S ALREADY CONSENSUS, SO, OKAY.
THANK YOU FOR, I JUST DIDN'T WANNA BE A IT'S A TRICKY ONE.
SO WOULD YOU LIKE A MAKE A MOTION OR DO A STRAW VOTE? LET'S DO A STRAW VOTE IF EVERYBODY'S COMFORTABLE WITH, WITH YOUR BENSON.
I THINK WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, WE'RE GONNA CLOSE MEETING ITEM NUMBER ONE.
UM, AND CONTINUE WITH OUR AGENDA
AND JUST FOR THE NEXT PHASE OF THIS, WE WILL SOLIDIFY THE TIMELINE THAT'LL BE AVAILABLE AND THEN I'LL UPDATE THE WEBSITE.
THERE WILL BE MORE MATERIALS AVAILABLE AFTER THE MEETING BASED ON WHAT WE DISCUSSED TONIGHT.
SO THERE'S ACCESS FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE THOSE.
UM, IT WAS HARD TO GET EVERYTHING IN AT THE LAST MINUTE, SO, UM, OR, YOU KNOW, NOT HAVE IT ALL COME QUICKLY.
SO I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S PATIENCE TRYING TO GATHER ALL THE, THE DATA POINTS.
UM, ALSO, I, I WILL REACH OUT TO BOTH ARTISTS AND WE WILL, UM, BEGIN MOVING FORWARD IN THAT PROCESS.
AND AGAIN, THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY WHO PARTICIPATED.
[COMMITTEE COMMENT]
WE WILL NOW BE MEETING, MOVING[02:10:01]
ON TO ITEM NUMBER TWO, THE SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS AND COMMUNITY UPDATES.UM, DOES ANYONE ON THE COMMITTEE HAVE AN, UH, AN ITEM TO PRESENT SPECIFIC TO THEIR SUBCOMMITTEES? I KNOW THAT WE HAVE SOME OPENINGS IN OUR SUBCOMMITTEES, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANNA TACKLE TONIGHT AND ALLOCATE MORE RESOURCES FOR THOSE, BUT THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD THING TO DO IN TERMS OF MANPOWER
UM, SO WHEN WE GET TO THAT, THE, I GUESS THE PROJECT MATRIX, IS THAT WHERE WE WOULD DO IT, MELISSA, OR DO YOU THINK WELL, I CAN SHARE, THIS WOULD BE A GOOD TIME HERE.
I'LL SHARE, UM, OUR SUBCOMMITTEES, SOME PEOPLE HAD MENTIONED THAT THEY WANTED TO POTENTIALLY BE ON ONE AT OUR LAST MEETING, BUT BECAUSE WE DID NOT HAVE A FULL HOUSE, WE DIDN'T REALLY TOTALLY FINALIZE IT.
SO THIS IS A GRAPHIC OF WHO IS FORMALLY COMMITTED AND NOW THAT WE HAVE EVERYBODY BUT DJ, THIS IS THE FULLEST WE'VE HAD FOR A WHILE, THIS WOULD BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO BE A PART OF.
AND SOME OF THESE ARE KIND OF STALLED
BUT THERE IS A GRANT OPPORTUNITY COMING UP.
IT'S, IT'S OPEN RIGHT NOW, UM, THROUGH CALIFORNIA STATE PARKS.
AND SO I, I DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE A SUBCOMMITTEE TO REVIEW THAT AND SEE IF, YOU KNOW, IF YOU THINK ONE OF OUR PROJECTS IS A GOOD FIT.
WE HAVE A LOT OF QUEUED UP PROJECTS THAT WE NEED TO COMPLETE.
I THOUGHT WE DID HAVE A LIST FILLED OUT WITH MORE OF OUR NAMES ON IT.
WE DID GO OVER IT AND I THINK EVERYONE EXCEPT FOR ONE MEMBER WAS ADDED ON.
OH, IT WAS, I THINK DOROTHY WAS ABSENT AT THAT ONE AS WELL.
SO, UM, FOR RIGHT NOW I BELIEVE THAT THE GRANT SEEKING WAS ANN AND CODY AND BRIE WAS THE, I THINK THE LAST SUBCOMMITTEE FOR THAT.
AND I'LL FORWARD YOU THAT GRANT OPPORTUNITY, BUT WE ALWAYS ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY ON THE COMMITTEE TO LOOK FOR THOSE OPPORTUNITIES AS I AM AS WELL.
AND THEN, UM, KENNELWORTH PARK PUBLIC ART THAT'S ON HOLD RIGHT NOW, BUT, UM, WHAT, WHAT, I'M SORRY, I'M CONFUSED.
WHAT IS THAT PROJECT? THAT WAS THE OLE LAKIN.
UM, THAT WAS WHAT I WAS CONSIDERING FOR THE ART AND THE PARK GRANT.
I'M WAITING TO HEAR BACK FROM THE PARKS DEPARTMENT IF THEY THINK IT'S OKAY FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, HOPING THAT WE CAN FIT IN OUR SEPARATE FROM THE PARK REVITALIZATION.
AND I DON'T REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD WHICH, WHICH ONES WERE ON THAT SUBCOMMITTEE.
I KNOW IT WAS CHERYL, BUT I'LL HAVE TO PULL THAT BACK UP.
SINCE THERE'S NO REPORT OUT ON THAT MM-HMM.
UM, FOR MARY FULLER MCCHESNEY, IT WAS ANN TANNER AND I BELIEVE IT.
WE HAD PUT DJ ON THAT, BUT OKAY.
AND THEN THE PUBLIC ART MAP AND TOURS WAS ANN AND TANNER AND I BELIEVE IT WAS EITHER BRIE OR CODY WERE GOING TO WORK ON THAT.
DO EITHER OF YOU HAVE A RECOLLECTION? WELL, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY THE PUBLIC ART EXHIBIT TOOK PLACE.
REALLY WE, THE, THE CONVERSATION WAS, HEY, CAN WE, YOU KNOW, COLLUDE WITH, UM, HISTORIC, UH, COMMITTEE OR, UM, TOURISM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE, THE OFFICIAL TITLES ARE TO, TO MAKE THIS SOMETHING THAT WE OFFER IN PETAL AND BRING PEOPLE ON TOURS OF THE PUBLIC ART.
AND INCIDENTALLY, I'VE DONE THAT A FEW TIMES WITH GROUPS OF FRIENDS AND IT'S BEEN GREAT PEOPLE, THEY REALLY GET INTO IT.
YOU GET TO SEE PETALUMA, THEY'RE FROM OUT OF TOWN, WE HAVE LUNCH.
IT'S REALLY, UM, A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.
SO IF ANY OF YOU WANNA DO IT, I ENCOURAGE YOU JUST TO DOWNLOAD THE MAP AND IT'S A FUN TOUR.
AS OF NOW, I'D LIKE TO BE ON SOME THAT ARE NOT SO OVERARCHING, LIKE MAYBE THE RIVER ARCH, SOMETHING THAT IS MORE DIRECT.
'CAUSE I'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OTHER PROJECTS THAT I'M WORKING ON TONIGHT WITH THE CITY AND I, I DON'T REALLY HAVE THE CAPACITY TO TAKE ON SOMETHING THAT BROAD RIGHT NOW.
[02:15:03]
THREE, TWO.UM, I WOULD SAY RIGHT NOW I, UNTIL THE END OF THE SCHOOL YEAR, I CAN PROBABLY COMMIT TO TWO COMMITTEES.
UM, AND SO I BELIEVE I WAS ON ASPHALT ARE IN THE GRANT SEEKING.
UM, I CAN, I'M HAPPY TO MOVE ANY OF THOSE, THOSE TWO COMMITMENTS ANYWHERE ELSE THOUGH.
I THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH FOR THE MAP FOR RIGHT NOW.
IF, IF NOBODY'S FEELING UP FOR IT, WE CAN OFFER THAT TO DJ WHEN SHE COMES BACK.
I MEAN I WOULD LIKE US TO FOCUS ON LIKE TOURS MORE LIKE MAYBE PARTNERING WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS LIKE WE TALKED TO.
AND I THINK THAT'S A NICE NEXT STEP.
I THINK WE NEED TO PARTNER WITH A BIKE COMPANY AND GET SOME SEGUES AND GET PEOPLE ON SEGWAY TOURS.
THAT WOULD REALLY BE THE WAY TO DO IT.
SO IF ANYBODY KNOWS ANYBODY IN THAT INDUSTRY, THAT COULD BE A COOL THING TO PROMOTE IN PETALUMA.
AND HAS THIS GONE TO BIKE AND PAD? UH, 'CAUSE I WAS JUST TALKING TO ANOTHER MEMBER OF BIKE AND PAD WHO WAS EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
SHE WAS SAYING WE NEED TO DO THAT, HAVE AN ART, A BIKE ART TOUR, PETALUMA.
AND I SAID, WELL WE'RE ACTUALLY WORKING ON THAT.
I THINK THEY'D WANT TO, THEY'D BE EXCITED ABOUT IT.
WE COULD REACH OUT AND ASK IF WE COULD DO ONE OF HOW THERE ARE THOSE ORCHESTRATED COMMUNITY BIKE RIDES.
IT WOULD BE REALLY COOL TO PARTNER AND DO ONE FOR PUBLIC ART.
I'M PRETTY SURE THAT THE FIRST FRIDAY BIKE RIDE COINCIDE COINCIDES WITH, UM, THE ARTS ALIVE FIRST FRIDAY THAT HAS BEEN TRYING TO GET GOING.
IS IT FIRST FRIDAYS THE BIKE RIDES THOUGH? I MIGHT BE WRONG.
AND THEN OUR LAST ONE WAS THE SKATE PARK.
THE RIVER ARCH IS CHERYL CODY.
SAME THING TO DO WITH THE PLACEMENT.
I CAN HELP 'CAUSE I HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE IN THAT AND I'LL HAVE SOME UPDATES ON THAT.
AND THEN FOR NOW, LOU CASEY SKATE PARK.
IT WAS JUST ALL HANDS ON DECK.
BUT, UH, AS WE MOVE FORWARD, IF THERE'S ANYBODY WHO'D LIKE TO BE MORE SPECIFICALLY WORKING WITH THE ARTIST OR COMMUNITY OUTREACH, WE HADN'T REALLY FINALIZED WHO WAS GONNA BE OUR CREW ON THAT ONE.
AND THAT'S, I KNOW I SAID I COULD ONLY DO TWO, BUT I DO HAVE A PASSION FOR OUR STUDENTS GETTING INVOLVED ON THIS SO I COULD MAKE IT WORK.
ANYONE ELSE? TANNER THAT'S, WE COULD STICK WITH TWO FOR NOW AND THEN IF PEOPLE DECIDE LATER THAT THEY'D LIKE TO BE INVOLVED THAT'S OKAY AS WELL.
AND OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE SURE TO LIKE, MAKE SURE SHE CAN COME.
SHE WAS SORRY TO MISS TONIGHT.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER REPORT OUTS OF ANY KIND OF ARTS RELATED ACTIVITIES OR YOUR OTHER CCBS YOU'RE ON THAT MIGHT HAVE CROSSOVER? YEAH.
UH, JUST IN THE EARLY PLANNING STAGES OF THIS, UM, UH, THE, UH, UH, CHAIR TED ELLI AND I, UM, FROM, UH, PARKS AND REC, UH, STARTING AN, JUST START AN AD HOC COMMITTEE.
UM, AND UH, IT, IT'S, WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER AN OUT PUBLIC OUTREACH CAMPAIGN.
UH, IT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO INVOLVE ALL THE DIFFERENT, UM, DEPARTMENTS OF THE CITY AND 'CAUSE EVERYONE CAN BENEFIT IT WOULD BE TO THE EFFECT OF CREATING A, A CULTURE SHIFT IN PUBLIC, IN THE PUBLIC, TAKING OWNERSHIP OF PUBLIC SPACES, NOT PUTTING EVERYTHING ON, UM, THE CITY.
SO YOU ARE JUST AS, UM, RESPONSIBLE FOR KEEPING YOUR PUBLIC SPACES CLEAN WHEN YOU USE THEM, CLEANING UP AFTER YOURSELF AND OTHERS AS THE CITY IS.
AND WE'RE STARTING, YOU KNOW, IN PARKS AND REC AND AD HOC COMMITTEE, BUT WE WE'RE GOING TO INVOLVE OTHER CITY COMMITTEES, UH, DEPARTMENTS AND, AND OTHER, UH, LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS IN THIS BECAUSE WE CAN REALLY ALL, ALL BENEFIT FROM TEACHING PEOPLE TO LEAVE SPACES AS CLEAN OR CLEANER WHEN YOU, AS, WHEN YOU FOUND THEM.
AND IT'S NOT JUST UP TO CITY STAFF TO CLEAN UP AFTER YOU.
AND, UH, LIKE WE, IT'S GOING TO BE PUBLIC OUTREACH CAMPAIGNS, SO THERE'S GOING TO NEED TO BE GRAPHICS, VISUALS, SIGNS, ET CETERA.
SO I KNOW THAT PUBLIC ART CAN PLAY A BIG ROLE IN, IN THAT, UM, IN HELPING THE PUBLIC LEARN TO BEAUTIFY THEIR OWN SPACES.
[02:20:01]
BUT THERE'LL, THERE'LL BE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO WORK TOGETHER.I GUESS WE'RE GONNA BE MOVING ON.
IS THERE ANYTHING WE'RE MISSING? YES, I THINK I MIGHT HAVE HANDLED THAT VOTE POORLY ON, I'D LIKE TO REOPEN ITEM ONE AND HAVE A MOTION MADE AND THEN WE GAVEL AND LIKE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE MOTION.
I REALIZED THE STRAW VOTE FOR THE SECOND MIGHT NOT HOLD, SO WE PROBABLY SHOULD MAKE A MOTION.
OR DO YOU THINK THAT THAT WAS FORMAL MAKE A MOTION FOR OH, FOR THE SECOND, FOR THE SECOND FOR THE STRAW VOTE? OR HOW I KIND OF YOU FEEL LIKE? I THINK, I THINK, OKAY.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I, I, I THINK WE DID IT TWO DIFFERENT WAYS AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS RECORDED PROPERLY.
[STAFF COMMENT]
WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO ITEMS THREE AND FOUR.NUMBER THREE IS OUR PROJECT ART MATRIX.
SO, UM, MELISSA, IF YOU COULD BE SO KIND JUST TO BRING THAT UP, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
WE HAVE A LOT OF UPDATES AND A LOT OF POTENTIAL, SO THINGS ARE GETTING PRETTY EXCITING.
UM, ADOBE ROAD WINERY IS MOVING FORWARD WITH THEIR PROJECT.
THEY'RE ENTERING THE FINAL STAGES.
UM, IT'S LOCATED ON FIRST STREET, UM, BEHIND THE, THE PARKING GARAGE ALONG THE RIVER.
IF YOU'VE MISSED IT, YOU HAVEN'T BEEN WITHIN FOUR OR FIVE BLOCKS OF IT 'CAUSE IT'S HARD TO MISS.
UM, RYAN PETERSON IS DOING CONSTRUCTION OF A SCULPTURE THAT WAS APPROVED, I BELIEVE NEARLY FIVE YEARS AGO FOR THE SITE.
AND SO IT'S, IT'S BEING CONSTRUCTED RIGHT NOW.
UM, INSTALLATION IS EXPECTED IN SPRING 2026, SO WE'LL HAVE A NEW SCULPTURE AVAILABLE.
IT IS OF STEEL CONSTRUCTION AND WE'LL BE FACING FIRST STREET WITHIN THE PROPERTY LINE.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE ROTARY CLUB ROUNDABOUT SPONSORED ART FEATURE.
UM, THE ROTARY CLUB HAD A FUNDRAISER LAST FRIDAY, A A CRAB FEED TO BENEFIT THE FUNDING OF THIS PROJECT.
THEY'VE DONE A TON OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH.
UM, THEY HAVE SELECTED A, AN ARTIST TO MAKE THEIR PIECE.
DAVID BEST WITH LIGHTING SUPPORT FROM MIKE KABA, SORRY I SPELLED HIS NAME WRONG.
UM, HE WORKED WITH US ON FINE BALANCE TO CREATE THE LIGHTING.
I DON'T HAVE THE MOST RECENT RENDERING.
ROTARY USED SOME IMAGES FROM THEIR, THEIR, UM, FUNDRAISER, BUT I DIDN'T WANNA USE THEM WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION AS A, THEY'RE NOT, THEY MAY NOT BE FINAL.
UM, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, IT'LL STAND APPROXIMATELY 24 FEET.
IT'LL BE LOCATED OFF CENTER TO SUPPORT ACCESS TO, UM, ALL THE UTILITIES AT THE SITE.
THERE'S A LOT OF CONSTRICTIONS THERE.
UM, THE SHAPE WILL BE ALMOST LIKE A, IT'LL STAND ON A PEDESTAL, UH, A WHAT WOULD YOU CALL IT? IT'S ALMOST LIKE A SIGN HOW YOU HAVE A LARGER FOCUS ON TOP AND GO INTO LIKE THE, THE PILLAR THAT SUPPORTS IT.
UM, ONCE WE HAVE THAT FINAL DESIGN FROM THEM, I THINK THEY'RE STILL WORKING OUT KINKS AS TO HOW IT WILL FUNCTION.
UM, BUT IT WILL SAY THAT PETALUMA ON IT IN SOME CAPACITY.
WE JUST HAD THE UM, SKATE PARK PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY.
UM, WE, WE HAD OUR MEETING OCTOBER 20TH, 2025 CITY COUNCIL AND IN THAT MEETING WE TALKED ABOUT PRELIMINARY ART PROJECTS.
UM, WE, WE ANTICIPATE THAT THERE WILL BE A METAL FEATURE THAT WILL GO OUT.
UH, EITHER THEY'LL SELECT A ARTIST OR HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO SELECT AN ARTIST HERE.
UM, THERE WILL ALSO BE A MURAL LOCATION FOR THAT PROJECT, SO WE'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE ANOTHER MURAL PROJECT.
I'M NOT SURE OF TIMELINE RIGHT NOW, BUT I ANTICIPATE WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR AND A HALF WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THAT.
RFP OR I'M SORRY, UH, WE'LL PROBABLY DO A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS AND DO A FORMAL PROCESS ON THAT.
UM, RIVER ARCH, THERE'S SOME UPDATES ON THAT.
UM, WE'RE GOING WAY BACK, BUT, UM, WE HAVE THREE PIECES TO, TO STILL INSTALL ON SITE AT THE RIVER ARCH.
THEY'RE ALL ON NATHAN APPLE WIZARD OF METALS PROPERTY.
UH, HE HAS COMPLETED CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CITY ABOUT HIS LOT LINE AND THOUGH IT HAS NOT BEEN FORMALIZED, THE LOT LINE HAS BEEN ADJUSTED
[02:25:01]
TO PROVIDE SLIGHTLY MORE SPACE ALONG THE, THE RIGHT OF WAY.AND THE, I'M SORRY, NOT THE RIGHT OF WAY.
THE PATH, UM, HE IS MOVING THE FENCE.
HE HAD JUST MOVED A FENCE AWAY FROM THE DRAINAGE AREA SO WE COULD TAKE A BETTER LOOK.
IT'S KIND OF AN OLD PROJECT THAT PREDATES ALL OF YOU, BUT THERE WAS A LANDSCAPE PLAN CREATED BY SANDY REED WITH DAVID BEST FOR THE SITE.
UM, THINGS HAVE CHANGED A LITTLE BIT AT THE SITE WHERE, UM, THERE WAS SOME GROWTH THAT WASN'T THERE IN THE PAST.
WE DON'T HAVE CAPACITY TO DO A LOT OF THE PLANTING.
WE'D HOPE FOR BECAUSE WE ARE NOT ADDING TO THE MAINTENANCE BUDGET RIGHT NOW FOR THE CITY.
UM, BUT RELIEF HAD REACHED OUT AND RESTARTED THIS CONVERSATION THAT THEY WANNA PLANT SOME TREES ALONG THE WAY AND THEY MET ONSITE WITH NATHAN APPLE, MYSELF, UM, BJORN GRINBERG WITH PUBLIC WORKS, UH, ANOTHER PUBLIC WORKS EMPLOYEE AND WE JUST TALKED ABOUT IF THAT AND, UM, I'M SORRY, WENDY JACOBS FROM RELIEF.
AND SO WE TALKED ABOUT WHETHER THAT WAS STILL A VIABLE PLAN.
RIGHT NOW IT'S, WE'RE JUST COMING TO WHERE PLANTING SEASON'S NOT GONNA BE VIABLE.
SO RELIEF HAS OPTED TO PLANT SOME TREES ALONG THE WALKWAY IN THE INTERIM, UH, ALONG THE BIKE PATH.
AND THEN WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR FEEDBACK ABOUT, UM, WHAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PARTNER ON.
BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, UM, PUBLIC WORKS IS REMOVING THE BRUSH THAT KIND OF STARTED TO TAKE OVER NEAR THE RIVER ARCH.
THERE WAS ALSO AN ENCAMPMENT THAT'S BEING SUPPORTED AND CLEARED SO THAT, THAT WILL BE CLEANED UP AGAIN.
AND THEN WE'RE GONNA LOOK PUBLIC WORKS WAS GONNA TAKE A LOOK AT THE GRADING AND SEE IF THE GRADING WOULD ACTUALLY SUPPORT THE PLACEMENT THAT WE HAVE LAID OUT IN THAT PLAN.
SO AFTER ALL OF THAT IS DONE, WHICH PUBLIC WORKS SAID AS SOON AS WE GET A WEEK OF NO RAIN IN A ROW, THEN THEY CAN GO AND DO THE REMOVAL AND ALL OF THAT.
THEN WE CAN START THAT CONVERSATION AGAIN.
NATHAN APPLE HAS BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE AND OFFERED, UM, HIS SPACE FOR STAGING.
WE ALSO HAVE, UM, WE ALSO WILL PROBABLY BE LOOKING FOR A VOLUNTEER DATE TO GO AND LIKE ACCESS ROCKS.
WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING FOR DONATED MATERIAL SO THAT WE CAN COMPLETE AT LEAST THE BOULDER PLAN LAID OUT BY SANDY REED AND DO A STAGED APPROACH TO THIS AS, AS THE OTHER COMPONENTS PERMIT.
'CAUSE THERE'S A, WE HAVE A LOT OF PARTNERS ON THAT AND THERE'S A LOT OF LIKE FUNDING.
I'D HOPE THAT THE LYNCH CREEK TRAIL IMPROVEMENT FUNDING WOULD HELP US OUT, BUT IT, THAT FUNDING IS PRETTY MUCH STOPPING AT LAKEVILLE.
SO WE'RE TRYING, AND LUCKILY BJORN IS REALLY COMMITTED TO THIS AS WELL.
SO HE'S LOOKING FOR WAYS WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO TAP INTO POWER.
THAT'S MY BIGGEST ONE, IS LIKE JUST GETTING THAT LIT.
AND SO IT'S ALWAYS TOP OF MIND TO ME AND I'M TRYING TO INSERT IT AND ADVOCATE FOR IT, BUT I HOPE THAT WE CAN AT LEAST PLACE THE ARTWORKS WITHIN THE COMING MONTHS SO YOU'LL ALL BE NOTIFIED.
THE PLAYGROUND'S ON HOLD, THE MURAL WALLS ARE ON HOLD.
UM, THE POTENTIAL FOR THE MURAL WALLS CAME OUT OF THAT LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT AND NATHAN'S NATHAN APPLE'S APPLICATION FOR, UH, FENCE VARIANCE THAT'S STILL IN THE WORKS.
BUT THE IDEA WAS THAT WE'D HAVE OVER 300 FEET OF CON, I THINK IT'S OVER 300 FEET OF CONTIGUOUS FENCING THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR MURALS.
UM, HE HAD HOPED THAT THERE WOULD BE PANELS THAT WOULD BE EACH BEEF, UM, ALLOWED TO A SCHOOL.
SO DIFFERENT SCHOOLS COULD CREATE MURALS, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S HIS HOPE.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S, WE'RE A, A LONG WAY FROM THERE RIGHT NOW, BUT I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT'S STILL HAPPENING.
UM, I'VE HAD A LOT OF SUPPORT FROM TANNER WITH THE MARY FULLER MCCHESNEY COLLECTION GETTING EVERYTHING MOVED.
WE HAVE TWO PIECES RE THREE PIECES RE NO TWO REMAINING TO MOVE.
UM, I'M GETTING QUOTES ON THAT.
UM, THEY WOULD BE STORED HERE, BUT IDEALLY WE'D LIKE TO JUST COME UP WITH A CONCLUSION FOR HOW WE CAN PLACE THESE PIECES.
IT'S REALLY BECOME A BIT OF AN ALBATROSS WHEN WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO SUPPORT INSTALLATION, BUT WE OWN ARTWORKS.
UM, TANNER AND I TOOK A REALLY GOOD LOOK AT CITY HALL WITH THE, HOW IT IS MID-CENTURY AND HOW WE MIGHT PLACE THOSE ARTWORKS HERE 'CAUSE THERE ARE AREAS WHERE IT WOULD REALLY WORK.
UM, ALSO WE'RE GONNA NEED TO LOOK FOR INTERIOR SPACES FOR SOME OF THE SMALLER, UM, VERMICULITE PIECES.
SO WE WILL CONTINUE WITH THAT UNTIL WE COMPLETE IT
UM, AND WITH THIS I'M GONNA MOVE ON TO, UM, I'M GONNA STOP SHARING AND MOVE ON TO JUST A QUICK REPORT OUT ON ASH GREGORIO'S MURAL.
AND I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE.
THIS IS THE LONGEST MEETING WE'VE HAD IN A LONG TIME AND I'M SURE WE ALL NEED A COUGH DROP AFTERWARDS.
[02:30:08]
SO ASH HAS NAMED HER MURAL SWIMMING THROUGH TRAFFIC.IT'S NOW LOCATED ON THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE KELLER STREET PARKING GARAGE.
THE PROJECT WAS COMPLETED IN ONE WEEK.
WE RECEIVED HER MAINTENANCE PLAN WITH HER COLOR PALETTE.
WE'VE RECEIVED A POSITIVE RESPONSE FROM THE COMMUNITY DURING MURAL PRODUCTION.
SHE HAD A FRIEND SIT WITH HER THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT.
IT WAS FUNDED BY L-G-B-T-Q CONNECTIONS, UH, IN NAPA AND SONOMA COUNTY.
SO SHE BROUGHT HER OWN MONEY TO OUR COMMUNITY TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.
PETERSON'S PAINTS SUPPORTED HER WITH A DISCOUNT AND SOME VOLUNTEER PAINTS.
PUBLIC WORKS HELPED MARK OFF THE SITE.
WE HAD SIGNAGE AND I LEFT OFF PETALUMA PD.
THEY, UM, THEY WOULD DO AN EXTRA PATROL OF THE SITE TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF SHE WAS WORKING AFTER HOURS, WHICH SHE TRIED TO DO LIMITED TO DAYTIME, THAT THERE WAS AN INCREASED PRESENCE IN THE GARAGE.
IT WAS A COLLECTIVE EFFORT AND MOST OF ALL I'D LIKE TO THANK ASH GREGORIO FOR HAVING THE VISION AND TAKING THE, UH, CREATING THE ABILITY FOR US TO SHOWCASE HER, HER WORK.
AND THAT IS THE FINAL PIECE FOUND ON THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE KELLER STREET PARKING GARAGE.
IT'S A PRETTY NICE NOTE TO END ON.
DO WE HAVE AN OFFICIAL RIBBON CUTTING OR ANYTHING FOR THAT? NO, WE, UM, THIS ONE'S A LITTLE TRICKY 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING TO REALLY DO IT, BUT I WOULD BE OPEN TO HELPING VOLUNTEER TO HELP SUPPORT LIKE A GATHERING THERE.
I ALSO THOUGHT THAT IT MIGHT BE FUN TO DEVELOP A TOUR OF SORTS OF THE ARTWORK OF THE PARKING GARAGE.
'CAUSE WE NOW HAVE MULTIPLE PIECES ON SITE.
SOME OF THEM ARE DETERIORATING A LITTLE BIT, BUT, UM, IT DEFINITELY IN ASH'S CONVERSATION WITH ME, IT CAME UP, I THINK HER, ONE OF HER FRIENDS MIGHT HAVE BROUGHT IT UP THAT IT'S BECOMING THE KELLER STREET PARKING GALLERY.
AND I REALLY LOVE THAT AND THOUGHT LIKE, IF WE ARE THINKING DOWN THE ROAD OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR FIRST TIME ARTISTS OR IF WE EVER HAD THE FUNDING, WHAT A KILLER WAY TO, TO REALLY GRAB EVERYONE AND REIGNITE THE SPACE.
I KNOW FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE IN TOWN, IT'S A LOOKOUT FROM THE TOP FLOOR.
IT'S LOOK, LISTENING TO THE MUSIC AT THE PHOENIX OR LEARNING TO SKATE ON TOP, WHETHER THAT'S ALLOWED OR NOT.
BUT IT, IT REALLY IS A SPACE THAT SOME PEOPLE LIVE IN AND SOME PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, DESTROY.
AND, UM, AND IT'S KIND OF NEAT TO SEE IT IN THIS LIGHT AND SEE LIKE THE MOMENTUM OF THE, THE WAY ART IS AFFECTING CHANGE AT THAT SITE.
WELL I, I'D BE IN FAVOR OF, UM, HELPING OUT VOLUNTEER WISE WITH A RIBBON CUTTING FOR HER WHEN THE WEATHER'S NICE.
UM, IT MIGHT BE A NICE GESTURE TO THE YOUTH OF OUR CITY AND THAT PARTICULAR CULT SKATE CULTURE WHO SPENDS A LOT OF TIME THERE.
AND I KNOW, I THINK IT, IT MIGHT BE A NICE, UM, OPPORTUNITY TO EMBRACE KIDS.
I'D ALSO BE OPEN TO VOLUNTEERING.
UM, IT ALSO MIGHT BE A NICE OPPORTUNITY TO REACH OUT TO SOME OF OUR SUBMISSIONS ON THE SKATE PARK AND SOME OF THOSE ARTISTS THAT MIGHT, MAYBE WE QUESTION IF THEY COULD DO A HUGE PIECE, BUT MAYBE A SMALLER PIECE TO, TO KIND OF GIVE A NOD TO TO THOSE YOUNGER ARTISTS.
I MEAN, I DEFINITELY THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE COULD PUT IN OUR VISION STATEMENT FOR WHERE WE WANNA MAKE ART IN THE FUTURE.
I THINK IT'S TIME TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT AGAIN AT OUR NEXT MEETING BECAUSE AS WE HAVE SITES GO AWAY AND WE HAVE SITES COME BACK AND I REMEMBER OUR LAST, I COULD PULL UP OUR PRIORITY LOCATIONS.
I THINK OUR LAST TOP ONE WAS THE O PEDESTRIAN OVERPASS.
UM, WE HAD HAD THE KENNELWORTH TEEN CENTER, WHICH IS NOW REMOVED FROM THE LIST.
BUT I'D, I'D LOVE TO GO BACK AND REFLECT ON THAT.
AND, UM, I I, WE NEVER REALLY TALKED ABOUT THE INSIDE OF THE KELLER STREET PARKING GARAGE WHEN WE HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
SO I THINK IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING WE DO WHEN WE HAVE FUNDING OR WE LOOK TOWARDS OTHER GRANT OPPORTUNITIES TO FUND IT BECAUSE IT, IT'S REALLY, IT WAS SO EASY TO DO ONCE WE GOT THE RHYTHM THERE, LIKE HOW WE WERE GONNA RUN IT AS A CITY ORGANIZATION AND UM, AND IT'S JUST BLOCKING OFF PARKING SPOTS.
THE HARD PART IS THAT YOU DON'T GET TO SEE ALL OF IT ALL THE TIME, BUT IT REALLY, IT REALLY WAS A TRANSFORMATION.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE A CITY REPRESENTATIVE AND SOME OF THE FANFARE THAT WE GIVE TO ALL THE OTHER ARTISTS.
UM, I THINK WE SHOULD, YOU KNOW, EXTEND THAT TO ASH BECAUSE SHE'S CREATED A BEAUTIFUL PIECE AND SHE'S THE YOUNGEST ARTISTS THAT WE'VE REALLY CELEBRATED IN A WHILE.
SO IF WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN IN THE SPRING, I I WOULD TOTALLY
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SUPPORT THAT.YEAH, I I WOULD LOVE TO HELP WITH THAT.
I, I'LL, I'LL SPEAK TO CITY STAFF ABOUT SETTING UP A TIME AND THE COMMS TEAM ABOUT GETTING THE WORD OUT AND WE CAN ALL FIGURE OUT A TIME THAT WORKS GOOD ONCE THE RAIN STOPS.
UM, BUT I, I REALLY APPRECIATE HOW ALL OF YOU ALWAYS BAKE COOKIES.
LIKE SOMETIMES SHE BLOWS MY MIND.
IT'S DOZENS OF COOKIES,
UM, BUT I WANNA THANK YOU ALL 'CAUSE EVERY TIME YOU MAKE IT SO SPECIAL FOR THE ARTISTS AND THE COMMUNITY AND IT'S NOT COMING OUT OF IN D FUNDING, IT'S, IT'S JUST REALLY YOUR HEART ON DISPLAY AND LIKE THE AMOUNT OF HONOR AND RESPECT YOU HAVE FOR THE ARTS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND I JUST ABSOLUTELY THANK THE WORLD OF YOU ALL.
YEAH, I DEFINITELY SUPPORT IT TOO.
UM, IF WE CAN JUST PICK A TIME THAT I CAN GET THERE.
YEAH, WELL AND ASH WORKS AS WELL.
SO IT PROBABLY WOULD BE A WEEKEND.
SO I GUESS WE ARE, UM, CLOSING ITEMS THREE AND FOUR.
AND WITH THAT, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 8:37 PM.