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GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PETALUMA CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION FOR THURSDAY, MARCH 12TH, 2026.ASHLEY PRESENT EL CAMP PRESENT.
GUARDIAN IS RUNNING LATE, UM, O'DONNELL PRESENT PEREZ.
PETERS DEAR KRISHNA, ABSENT THORS ABSENT.
AND I THINK WE HAVE AN OATH OF OFFICE TO DO TONIGHT.
HI EVERYONE, I'M KAITLYN CORLEY.
UM, AND IT'S ONE OF MY FAVORITE PARTS OF THE JOB IS TO BE ABLE TO SWEAR IN NEW, UH, COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND COMMISSIONERS.
AND I JUST WANNA SAY, YOU KNOW, THE CITY SO APPRECIATES.
I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE ALL VOLUNTEERING YOUR TIME, SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU STEPPING UP TO DO THIS.
SO IF I COULD HAVE YOU STEP DOWN OFF THE DICE AND IN FRONT HERE WE'LL PERFORM THE OATH OF OFFICE.
WHAT KIND OF STUDY? RIGHT HERE YOU GO RIGHT THERE FOR YOU.
SO I'LL READ ALONG, I'LL READ AND YOU JUST FOLLOW ALONG.
PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND AND REPEAT AFTER ME.
I STATE YOUR NAME, DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR BRI O'DONNELL SOLEMNLY SWEAR.
SWEAR THAT I WILL SUPPORT AND DEFEND THAT I WILL SUPPORT AND DEFEND THAT I'LL SUPPORT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES.
THE CONSTITUTION, CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES STATES, THE CHARTER OF THE CITY OF PETALUMA, THE CHARTER CITY OF PETALUMA, AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AGAINST ALL ENEMIES, FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC, AGAINST ALL ENEMIES, FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC.
THAT I WILL BEAR TRUE FAITH AND ALLEGIANCE.
THAT, THAT I WILL BEAR TRUE FAITH AND ALLEGIANCE TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, THE CHARTER OF THE CITY OF PETALUMA, THE CHARTER OF CITY OF PETALUMA, AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
THAT I TAKE THIS OBLIGATION FREELY, THAT I TAKE THIS OBLIGATION FREELY WITHOUT ANY MENTAL RESERVATION, WITHOUT ANY MENTAL RESERVATION OR PURPOSE OF EVASION OR PURPOSE OF EVASION PURPOSE.
AND THAT I WILL WELL AND FAITHFULLY AND THAT I WILL WELL AND FAITHFULLY DISCHARGE THE DUTIES, DISCHARGE THE DUTIES UPON WHICH I'M ABOUT TO ENTER UPON, WHICH I'M ABOUT TO ENTER.
WELL, WE ARE VERY EXCITED TO WELCOME YOU.
NEXT ITEM IS THE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, THE PUBLIC IS,
[PRESENTATIONS]
OH, SORRY.SONOMA IS PRESENTING ON COMPOSTING HISTORY, CHALLENGES AND OPPORTUNITIES IN SONOMA COUNTY.
SO, UM, MY NAME IS LESLIE LU CASH.
I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF ZERO WASTE SONOMA.
I'M WAIT FOR PATRICK TO, UM, PULL UP THE SLIDES AND PATRICK'S ACTUALLY ONE OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS.
SO IF YOU MIGHT NOT KNOW, UM, ZERO WASTE SONOMA IS A JOINT POWERS AUTHORITY.
AND SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE ARE A REGIONAL GOVERNMENT AGENCY AND WE, UM, HAVE OUR OWN BOARD OF DIRECTORS, WHICH IS A REPRESENTATIVE FROM EACH OF THE 10 MEMBER JURISDICTIONS.
IT'S THE NINE CITIES AND THE COUNTY WHO ARE OUR MEMBERS.
AND WE'VE BEEN ESTABLISHED SINCE 1992.
AND, UM, OUR MAIN PILLARS OF WHAT WE DO FOR ALL THE JURISDICTIONS IS WE MANAGE HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE AND THE FACILITY AND ITS PROGRAMS. WE OVERSEE THE MANAGEMENT OF ORGANICS MATERIAL, SO THE MATERIAL GOING INTO YOUR GREEN BIN DO ZERO WASTE PLANNING AND POLICY, AS WELL AS PUBLIC EDUCATION.
AND, UH, VARIOUS REPORTING THAT'S REQUIRED UP FRONT AT THE STATE LEVEL ON BEHALF OF ALL OF OUR MEMBER JURISDICTIONS.
SO JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND FOR, UM, COMPOSTING AND ORGANICS MANAGEMENT IN SONOMA COUNTY.
UM, IT STARTED BACK IN 1993 WITH THE OPENING OF SONOMA COMPOST, WHICH WAS LOCATED DOWN ON, OFF OF MITCHUM ROAD AT THE CENTRAL LANDFILL.
AND, UM, ACTUALLY IT WAS A PRETTY STATE OF THE ART FACILITY, IF ANYBODY REMEMBERS IT.
IT WAS FIRST OF ITS KIND, I EVEN IN CALIFORNIA.
AND SO IT STARTED, YOU KNOW, DOING,
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UM, FOOD SCRAPS JUST VEGETATIVE IN 2 0 0 2 AND THEN OPT-IN COMMERCIAL ORGANICS COLLECTION IN 2 0 0 6.AND THEN UNFORTUNATELY IN 2015, FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS, THE FACILITY, UH, CLOSED.
UM, THAT WAS A HUGE, JUST, UH, MISSED OPPORTUNITY IN SONOMA COUNTY BECAUSE TRYING TO BRING, BRING BACK INFRASTRUCTURE IS EXTREMELY HARD, ESPECIALLY AS TIME GOES ON AND IT GETS MORE COSTLY.
UM, SO WITH THAT, A NEW LAW WAS ACTUALLY PASSED BY THE STATE CALLED SB 1383.
AND THIS IS THE SHORT-LIVED CLIMATE POLLUTANTS ACTION LAW.
AND THE REASON WHY THIS LAW WAS PUT INTO PLACE, UM, YOU CAN PASS, UH, GO NEXT, UM, IS BECAUSE WHEN ORGANIC MATERIAL GOES INTO A LANDFILL, IT ACTUALLY PRODUCES METHANE.
AND METHANE IS A, A WAY MORE POTENT GREENHOUSE GAS THAN EVEN, UH, CARBON IS.
SO THE STATE AND, AND THE BIGGEST PRODUCER OF METHANE IS LANDFILLS.
SO WHEN THE ORGANIC MATERIAL BREAKS DOWN IN THIS ANAEROBIC ENVIRONMENT, UM, METHANE IS PRODUCED.
SO THE STATE REALIZED THAT IF WE DIDN'T DO SOMETHING DRASTIC THAT WE HAD TO, THAT WE WERE GONNA REALLY JUST, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST POLLUTE ALL THESE GREENHOUSE GASES.
SO THEY PASSED SB 1383 AND IT'S A REALLY PRESCRIPTIVE LAW ABOUT GETTING ORGANICS OUTTA THE LANDFILL.
AND, UM, IT REQUIRES THE COLLECTION OF ORGANICS FOR BOTH, UM, AND ORGANICS.
WHEN I TALK ABOUT ORGANICS, THAT'S YOUR GREEN WASTE AND YOUR FOOD WASTE, AND THAT'S WHAT GOES INTO YOUR GREEN BIN.
UM, BUT IT FOCUSES ALSO ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE.
SO MAKING SURE ALL COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENTS HAVE A GREEN BIN SO THAT WE CAN COLLECT IT.
UM, THERE'S, UH, REPORTING REQUIREMENTS.
WE, WE WORK WITH A LOCAL ENFORCEMENT AGENCY.
IT'S A VERY PRESCRIPTIVE LAW, SOMETHING THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN COME THIS STRICT DOWN AT THE STATE LEVEL.
SO WE IMPLEMENT THAT LAW ON BEHALF OF YOUR MEMBER JURISDICTIONS AS WELL AS WE MANAGE THE MATERIAL IN THE GREEN BIN.
SO, UM, WITH THAT COMPLIANCE, UH, WE WORK WITH CLOSELY WITH YOUR HOLLERER.
UM, THE COMPLIANCE ALSO REQUIRES, UH, EDIBLE FOOD RECOVERY BECAUSE ONE IN EIGHT ADULTS GO HUNGRY EVERY DAY IN CALIFORNIA.
SO WHEN WE'RE THROWING AWAY ALL THIS PERFECTLY GOOD EDIBLE FOOD, UM, WE SET UP THE PROGRAMS THROUGH THIS LAW TO ACTUALLY, UH, COLLECT THAT EDIBLE FOOD AND GET IT BACK OUT TO THE COMMUNITY.
UM, WE'VE ALSO RECEIVED A NUMBER OF GRANTS, GRANTS TO RECOVER EDIBLE FOOD, BUT ALSO GRANTS TO, UH, HELP US COMPOST MORE AND GET THAT MATERIAL, UM, IN THE FORM OF COMPOST BACK OUT TO OUR RANGELAND AND AGRICULTURAL LANDS.
SO WE CAN DO CARBON SEQUESTRATION PROJECTS.
SO WE'VE DONE A NUMBER OF THESE CARBON SEQUESTRATION PROJECTS THROUGHOUT, UM, ACTUALLY THROUGHOUT ALL THE FIVE, UM, SUPERVISOR DISTRICTS.
AND, UM, THAT'S JUST A HUGE BENEFIT WITH GETTING, UH, YOUR SO SOILS, UM, JUST RESILIENT AND HEALTHY SOILS.
SO WHERE DOES ALL OF THE MATERIAL GO? SO FROM YOUR GREEN BIN AT HOME, AS WELL AS AT THE COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENTS, IT COLLECTS, UM, IN YOUR CITY BY RECOLOGY, WHO'S THE HAULER.
AND IT'S TAKEN TO ONE OF FIVE TRANSFER STATIONS, ACTUALLY FOUR TRANSFER STATIONS.
THAT'S THE PICTURE UP ABOVE IS WHAT THE TRANSFER STATION LOOKS LIKE.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE BEEN TO THE LANDFILL, BUT YOU MIGHT.
UH, ACTUALLY THE LANDFILL DOESN'T TAKE GREEN WASTE.
SO I'VE BEEN TO THE OTHER TRANSFER STATIONS.
ONE OF THE BAYS IS FOR THE GREEN WASTE.
FROM THAT POINT IT GOES INTO THAT LARGER TRUCK, WHICH IS CALLED A TRANSFER TRAILER TRUCK AND TAKEN TO VARIOUS COMPOST FACILITIES OUTSIDE OF SONOMA COUNTY.
SO I MENTIONED, UM, THE VARIOUS, THE BLACK DOTS ARE THE TRANSFER STATIONS AND THE RED DOTS ARE WHERE THE MATERIAL IS NOW EXPORTED OUT OF COUNTY, WHICH IS A HUGE, JUST MISSED OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE WE KNOW WE'RE IN AN AG COMMUNITY AND IT'S THE AG COMMUNITY THAT NOW BUYS THE FINISHED PRODUCT OUTSIDE OF OUR COUNTY AND BRINGS IT BACK TO THE, UM, FARMLAND AND RANGELAND IN, IN OUR COUNTY.
SO, UM, THESE ARE VERY LIKE LARGE SCALE, LARGE, UM, SCALE COMPOST FACILITIES.
JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE GENERATE, WE MANAGE ABOUT 90,000 TONS OF MATERIAL A YEAR.
SO WE COLLECT, UM, FROM THE RESIDENTS IN THE COMMERCIAL.
UM, AND THE FINISHED PRODUCT IS A REALLY CLEAN, UH, PRODUCT.
UM, SOME OF THE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT WE DO TO ENCOURAGE THE PURCHASING OF COMPOST IS THAT IF YOU ARE GONNA BUY 20 CUBIC YARDS OR MORE, WE'RE, OUR AGENCY'S GONNA GIVE YOU A 10% DISCOUNT OR REBATE PROGRAM.
SO, UM, THOSE WHO TYPICALLY, YOU KNOW, HAVE VINEYARDS OR, UM, BIG, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, AGRICULTURE, THE OTHER ONES BUYING AT 20 CUBIC YARDS OR MORE.
SO THEY GIVE US THEIR RECEIPT AND THEN WE GO AHEAD AND WE REBATE THEM 10%.
SO THAT'S A WAY FOR US TO HELP ESTABLISH MARKETS FOR THIS FINISHED PRO FINISHED PRO PRODUCT.
ANOTHER PROGRAM THAT WE DO IS WE GIVE AWAY FREE COMPOST
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YEAR ROUND TO, UM, FIVE, UM, VARIOUS HUBS, UM, SIX VARIOUS HUBS, UM, THROUGHOUT SONOMA COUNTY.THERE USED TO BE ONE IN PETALUMA, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THAT ONE GOT CLOSED DOWN.
WE DO HAVE PLANS TO HOPEFULLY BRING IT BACK TO PETALUMA 'CAUSE IT'S A GREAT SERVICE FOR THE COMMUNITY TO JUST GIVE AWAY THE FREE FINISH FINISHED PRODUCT.
SO WHAT ARE WE WORKING ON NOW? UM, WE ARE, THIS IS OUR SECOND ATTEMPT TO BRING COMPO COMPOST FACILITY BACK TO SONOMA COUNTY.
IT IS, UM, A SITE THAT'S LOCATED ON COUNTY LAND AT THE AIRPORT.
IT'S JUST SITS WEST OF THE AIRPORT PROPERTY IN THAT RED BOX.
UM, A FEASIBILITY STUDY WAS COMPLETED IN DECEMBER OF 2022 THAT SAID THAT THIS SITE IS ACTUALLY FEASIBLE TO SITE A COMPOST FACILITY.
UM, 30% DESIGN IN THE START OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL PERMITTING HAS ALREADY BEEN COMPLETED.
AND RIGHT NOW THE RFP PROCESS, UM, IS HAPPENING, UM, TO FIND A CONTRACTOR TO COMPLETE CQA.
SO CQA HAS A NUMBER OF JUST ELEMENTS THAT YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH FOR STATE ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS.
SO THAT'S, UM, ACTUALLY, I WAS TOLD YESTERDAY THAT THE CONTRACTOR WAS HIRED, SO THAT CONTRACT'S GONNA BE IN PLACE PROBABLY IN ANOTHER MONTH.
SO THAT WHOLE SEQUENCE PROCESS WILL START, THIS SITE WILL PROCESS ABOUT 70,000 TONS OF MATERIAL AS MENTIONED.
WE, UM, COLLECT ABOUT 90,000 TONS OF MATERIAL.
IT'S GONNA BE VERY SUSTAINABLE, UM, SOLAR, UH, ENERGY EFFICIENT GREEN BUILDING MATERIALS.
AND THEN ONCE THE RF, ONCE THE C PROCESS IS DONE, THAT IS WHEN OUR AGENCY TAKES OVER.
WE'RE GOING TO, UM, DO FIND A CONTRACTOR TO DO THE 70%, UH, DESIGN AND THEN THE BUILD AND CONSTRUCTION AND THEN AS WELL AS OPERATE.
SO WE'RE GONNA BE MANAGING THE SITE, IT'LL BE ON COUNTY LAND, BUT IT'LL BE OPERATED BY A THIRD PARTY.
SOME OF THE MESSAGING THAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS REALLY ABOUT CLEAN MATERIAL BECAUSE IF THERE'S CONTAMINANTS IN THE SOIL, I MEAN CONTAMINANTS IN THE COMPOST BIN, THE GREEN BIN, THEN IT, UM, YOU KNOW, MAKES FOR UNHEALTHY SOIL AND SOIL WITH PLASTIC PARTICULATES IN IT.
SO WE'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF BIG CAMPAIGNS ABOUT CLEANING UP THE STREAM.
UM, THAT'S JUST SOME OF OUR MATERIAL WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO SHOW, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S CONTAMINATED IN THE BIN, IT'S GONNA BE CONTAMINATED ON THE BACKEND, WHEREAS ON THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT, IT'S A NICE GREEN BIN WITH GREAT LOOKING COMPOST.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE QUESTION US ABOUT OFTEN IS, IS ABOUT COMPOSTABLE LOOKING PLASTIC THAT IS ACTUALLY NOT ACCEPTED, UM, IN 99, 90 5% OF ALL COMPOST FACILITIES ACROSS CALIFORNIA.
SO WE REALLY HAVE TO GO AGAINST THIS MESSAGING OF THESE LIKE PLA PRODUCTS THAT'S THE POLY ACID, WHICH IS, UM, GENERALLY FROM LIKE A, A CORN STARCH BASE OR SOME TYPE OF OTHER BASE.
UM, BUT THERE'S UNFORTUNATELY, THERE'S ACTUALLY OIL AND OTHER ADDITIVES IN THOSE CUPS, EVEN THOUGH THEY SAY THEY'RE COMPOSTABLE.
SO THE COMPOSTERS DON'T WANT IT BECAUSE COMPOSTERS ARE MAKING ORGANIC COMPOST.
AND, UM, THE NATIONAL ORGANICS PROGRAM AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL HAS ALREADY STATED THAT IF YOU PUT THIS INTO YOUR COMPOST, YOU CAN NO LONGER CERTIFY YOUR COMPOST AS ORGANIC.
SO IT JUST DOES NOT WORK WITH THE SYSTEM IN, IN OTHER WAYS AS WELL.
BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE MAIN WAYS.
SO WE DO A LOT OF OUTREACH AND EDUCATION OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN YOU DO.
UM, ONE IS, YOU KNOW, THE FOCUS BECAUSE OF 1383 IS FOOD INSECURITY AND DONATING, UM, EDIBLE FOOD, AS WELL AS, UM, A BIG PUSH FOR THIS NEXT YEAR IS GONNA BE COMPOSTING AT HOME, UM, BACKYARD COMPOSTING AS WELL AS MID-SCALE COMPOSTING.
SO WE CALL THAT, UM, COMMUNITY COMPOSTERS.
THOSE ARE MORE LIKE THE, UM, UH, SMALLER PRODUCERS, MAYBE LIKE SOME VINEYARDS THAT ARE GONNA PRODUCE GREEN WASTE, WHERE NOW WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM TO KEEP THE MATERIAL, UM, ON THEIR PROPERTY.
AND NOW BECAUSE OF NEW LAW THAT CAME OUT, UM, THEY CAN DO SOME BLENDING ON THESE PROPERTIES IS WHERE THAT WAS FORBIDDEN BEFORE.
SO WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO WORK WITH NOW, YOU KNOW, THE LARGE SCALE, WHICH IS ALL THE GREEN BINS NOW THAT NEXT SCALE OF, UM, AT THAT COMMUNITY LEVEL.
AND, UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE, BUT I'M HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS ON ANYTHING RELATED TO ZERO WASTE SONOMA AS WELL AS UM, COMPOST.
BUT I DID BRING SOME OF OUR ZERO WASTE GUIDES.
UM, IF ANYBODY WANTS ONE, I HAVE SOME CARABINERS AS WELL AS, UM, BACKYARD COMPOSTING GUIDES.
SO I'LL LEAVE THAT WITH PATRICK AND WHATEVER'S NOT TAKEN YOU CAN, I'LL BE BACK.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION, DAN? SO LESLIE, ARE THERE ANY PLANS FOR THE HALL OR TO LIKE POLICE WHAT'S GOING INTO RESIDENTIAL GREEN BINS? BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT YOU DON'T WANT WANT IN THAT STREAM.
SO HOW DO YOU PREVENT PEOPLE FROM CONTINUALLY DOING THAT? SO THE TRUCKS THEMSELVES HAVE CAMERAS ON THEM.
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A POLICING SYSTEM GOING ON THAT'S PART OF 1383 THAT, UM, THEY HAVE TO DO.UM, SO MANY TIMES PER YEAR AT DIFFERENT SECTIONS YOU HAVE TO DO WHAT WE CALL LID FLIPS, WHERE THEY, WHERE CONTRACTORS ARE HIRED OR THE HAULER DOES IT THEMSELVES, WHERE THEY ACTUALLY FLIP THE LID AND SEE WHAT'S IN, IF THERE'S, UM, CONTAMINANTS OR NOT.
AND THEN, UM, THAT IS PART OF THE LAW TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE, THAT THE, THAT THE RESIDENT IS EDUCATED ON WHAT TO PUT INTO THE BIN.
AND THEN ALSO THAT MONITORING THROUGH THE CAMERAS AND THE LEAD FLIPS.
ONE MORE QUESTION, I DON'T MEAN TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.
BUT I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS NEW COMPOST FACILITY.
ANY BALLPARK IDEA WHEN THAT MIGHT BE UP AND RUNNING? WE'RE TALKING LIKE A YEAR.
UM, SO QUA IS, UM, THE GOOD NEWS IS IT'S CITED ON AN OLD LANDFILL.
SO THERE'S SOME LIKE PERMITS THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY PIGGYBACK ON THAT'S GONNA HELP THE PROCESS A LITTLE BIT, UM, FASTER.
BUT THE PROBLEM WITH CQA IS YOU JUST DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT'S GONNA COME OUT FROM THE STUDY.
SO IT'S TRAFFIC, AIR, UH, BIOLOGY, UM, S AND YOU KNOW, JUST VARIOUS STUDIES.
AND, AND SO WITH THAT SEQUENCE, WE'RE ALSO DOING EDUCATION TO THE RESIDENTS IN THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.
UM, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T, WE ARE GONNA BE VERY PROACTIVE.
WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA, UM, IN APRIL, PATRICK DOESN'T KNOW THIS YET, BUT WE'RE GONNA START THE WHOLE PR CAMPAIGN FOR THAT SITE AT, WITH OUR BOARD MEETING IN APRIL.
AND THEN AT THE SAME TIME IN APRIL IS WHEN WE'RE GONNA START COMMUNICATING WITH THE RESIDENTS.
'CAUSE WE WANNA COMMUNICATE WITH THEM IN THE BEGINNING AND, AND BE, YOU KNOW, JUST ENGAGE WITH THEM AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AND ANSWER THEIR QUESTIONS ALONG THE WAY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T KNOW IF THERE LAWSUIT'S GONNA COME OR WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN, UM, WITH THAT SITE.
SO WITH QUA, I THINK QUA CAN TAKE LIKE TWO YEARS AND THEN AFTER THAT WE HAVE TO HIRE SOMEBODY TO FINISH OUT THE DESIGN THAT CAN TAKE ANOTHER YEAR AND THEN CONSTRUCTION.
SO THIS IS STILL LIKE FOUR YEARS OUT, UNFORTUNATELY.
SO YOU MENTIONED THAT MOST OF THE AG IN THE COUNTY IS NOT PURCHASING COMPOST FROM THE COUNTY 'CAUSE WE HAVE NO FACILITY AT PRESENT.
UM, ARE THERE OTHER SPECIFIC SOURCES WHERE AGRICULTURAL LANDOWNERS DO SOURCE COMPOST AND EVEN WITH THE REBATE, IS THAT GONNA BE A COMPETITIVE, UM, COST STRUCTURE FOR THEM? UM, SO YES.
I MEAN THERE ARE COMPOST FACILITIES, UM, OF JUST GREEN WASTE IN THE COUNTY, BUT THE FARMERS AND THE VINEYARDS ARE LOOKING FOR LIKE A HIGH VALUE COMPOST, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE PRODUCING OR WHO WE CONTRACT WITH IS PRODUCING.
UM, SO YES, MOST, THEY'RE ALL GOING OUTTA COUNTY, UM, TO BRING IT BACK INTO COUNTY.
AND YOUR SECOND QUESTION, SORRY, JUST WONDERING ABOUT REVENUE GEN, JUST WONDERING ABOUT REVENUE GENERATION FOR THE COMPOSTING FACILITY AND WONDERING IF WITH THE REBATE, IF THAT COST IS COMPETITIVE TO THE LANDOWNERS OR ARE THEY ALREADY SOURCING THROUGH THE CITY JUST WITH THIS OUTSOURCED COMPOST FACILITY? THEY GO, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING THE QUESTION CORRECTLY, THEY, THE, UM, AGRICULTURAL COMMUNITY GOES DIRECTLY TO THE COMPOSTER.
UM, NOT THROUGH US AND, BUT THEY JUST GET THE REBATE THROUGH US.
SO THE COMPOSTER DOESN'T REALLY SEE ANY OF THAT.
THEY'RE SELLING AT THE REGULAR PRICE.
SO IT KEEPS THE MARKET STABLE.
UH, THANK YOU FOR PROMOTING, UH, UM, WORM BINS AND THE, LIKE, I'VE HAD MINE FOR WELL OVER 10 YEARS, MAYBE 15 NOW.
UM, HOWEVER, UH, I JUST LOOKED AT IT THE TODAY AS I WAS, UH, UH, GONNA PUT SOME THINGS IN IT.
I SAYS, OKAY, DID MY WORMS DIE ON ME? 'CAUSE THEY WERE REALLY POPULATED A WEEK AGO AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY MAY HAVE CRASHED ANYWAY.
UM, DO YOU ACTUALLY SUPPLY THE, THE RED WORMS AND WORM BINS, UH, PHYSICAL WORM BINS FOR FOLKS OR GIVE ACCESS TO, TO WHERE WE CAN GET THESE, UH, LIVE WORMS AND FOR THAT AND ALSO THE ACTUAL BINS AND WORKSHOPS ABOUT THOSE BINS.
UH, WHICH ONE'S BETTER TO USE AT THE, IN, AT THE HOUSE? WE DO NOT, UM, GIVE OUT THE WORMS. UM, SO WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THAT.
AND THEN IN TERMS OF BACKYARD COMPOSTING, THAT'S ACTUALLY, UM, WHAT THIS GUIDE IS HERE.
AND YES, IF YOU CALL OUR OFFICE, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, SHARE THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF BACKYARD COMPOSTING BINS.
I CAN BUY WORMS OFF THE INTERNET.
I MEAN, THAT CAN DO THAT, BUT I WAS HOPING THERE WOULD BE A LOCAL SOURCE THAT WOULD BE EASY, ACCESSIBLE AND CHEAP THAT WE COULD SOMEHOW GET, GET UP AND RUNNING WOULD BE NICE ALONG WITH HOWTOS AND, AND, AND A DEMONSTRATION AREA.
UH, THAT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE.
SO JOHN, I HAVE SOME EXTRA WORMS I CAN, UH, SHARE WITH YOU.
UH, CURIOUS ABOUT YOUR OPINION OF THE LOMI PRODUCT.
WE'RE CONSIDERING ONE JUST FOR OUR HOUSEHOLD, AND IT IS A COMPELLING IDEA TO, FOR
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FOLKS WHO MAY, MAY DON'T HAVE THE TIME OR YARD SPACE FOR, UH, THEIR OWN, UH, COMPOST AT HOME.IS THIS THE DEHYDRATOR? IT'S LIKE YOUR ON COUNTER DEHYDRATOR? YEAH, SO THEY, THERE'S SOME THAT ARE LIKE ON, ON THE COUNTERTOP, SOME THAT ARE BIGGER, BUT, UH, THEY'RE BASICALLY, THEY'RE KIND OF TINY COMPOSTERS, UH, AND IT SEEMS LIKE THEY BASICALLY, UH, USE AIR AEROBIC, UH, DIGESTION AND, YOU KNOW, HEAT ESSENTIALLY, RIGHT? MM-HMM
TO, TO TURN YOUR FOOD SCRAPS INTO DIRT AT HOME.
IT'S, IT'S MAINLY LIKE A, ACTUALLY A DEHYDRATOR.
UM, THAT'S THE FINISHED PRODUCT.
IT'S NOT ACTUALLY FULLY COMPOST.
SO YOU CAN STUFF THE BLENDED IN, YOU CAN ADD AMENDMENT RIGHT.
AND SO I KNOW THE APPLICATION IS, UH, MORE ARTS, UH, WORKS FOR LIKE, UM, APARTMENTS WHEN YOU HAVE A TIGHT SPACE, NOT MAYBE A BACKYARD, BUT, UM, IT'S MORE OF A DEHYDRATOR THAN MAKING ACTUAL FINISHED COMPOST.
UH, JUST WONDERING, YEAH, LIKE DO YOU SEE IT AS A HELPFUL, UH, RIGHT.
LIKE IS IT, IS IT GREENWASHING OR IS IT LIKE SOMETHING THAT COULD ACTUALLY HELP WITH, WITH, UH, COMPOSTING FOR FOLKS THAT CAN'T, MAYBE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO, UH, A YARD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? YEAH, I, I CAN SEE THE APPLICATION AT THE APARTMENT LEVEL.
UM, I DO DO KNOW THAT SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE TESTED IT AND, UM, THEY, UH, HAVE, ARE USING OTHER METHODS
UM, TO PIGGYBACK ON COUNCIL MEMBER SRI'S SORT OF COMMENTS, UM, THE COMMUNITY COMPOSTING, LIKE WHAT TYPES OF SITES MIGHT BE GOOD? I KNOW WE'RE GOING THROUGH OUR GENERAL PLAN RIGHT NOW WHERE WE'RE DOING ZONING STUFF.
I DON'T KNOW, THERE IS A COMMUNITY COMPOST ZONING, BUT WHAT, YOU KNOW NOW WOULD BE THE TIME TO SORT OF IDENTIFY THIS, UH, TYPE OF SITE.
IS IT PARKS LIKE CITY PARKS OR COULD YOU SORT OF GO INTO THE BEST PRACTICES OF COMMUNITY COMPOSTING? IT COULD BE ALL THE ABOVE.
SO ACTUALLY WE'RE GONNA BE PUTTING OUT A RFP AND THIS WILL GO BEFORE OUR BOARD AT THE APRIL MEETING, UM, AT OUR APRIL BOARD MEETING.
AND SO WE'RE FORMULATING WHAT IT MEANS NOW, COMMUNITY COMPOSTING, AND WE'RE TALKING TO TWO COMMUNITY COMPOSTERS THAT WE KNOW OF IN SONOMA COUNTY.
ONE, IT FOCUSES ON EDUCATION AT SCHOOLS, AND THEN THE OTHER ONE FOCUSES ON, UM, SMALL SCALE FARMS. SO, UM, KIND OF TALKING TO THEM AND JUST WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT COMMUNITY COMPOSTING, THOSE ARE TWO OF THE TARGET AREAS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS, IS SCHOOLS AND SMALLER SCALE FARMS. SO PEOPLE STILL BRING, IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE DOWN THE STREET WALKING TO IT, YOU'RE GO, YOU'RE TRANSPORTING IT TO, WE'VE SEEN THAT MODEL TO LIKE, LIKE A BICYCLE.
UM, OR JUST LIKE SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, VERY SMALL SCALE GOING DIRECTLY TO THE, UM, RESTAURANT.
NO, I THINK WE'RE THINKING MORE, UM, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE WE WANNA BE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THAT MATERIAL, UM, MAY BE DESIGNATED THROUGH YOUR HAULER THAT HAS TO GO INTO THE BIN OR NOT, BUT, SO WE'RE LOOKING MORE LIKE AT THE SCHOOLS AND JUST THAT LEVEL.
WHEN WE DO THIS RFP, BUT UNFORTUNATELY YOU'RE LIKE A MONTH AHEAD OF, UM, MY, MY, THE RFP, SO WE HAVEN'T FULLY FORMULATED IT.
I'M LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE, THERE'S BOUNTY.
I DON'T KNOW IF BOUNTY WAS WHERE THE PREVIOUS, UH, PICKUP PILE WAS.
SO YEAH, I, HOPEFULLY THE BOUNTY THING GETS SORTED OUT.
WE DO HAVE THE PUMPKIN PATCH, WHICH IS IN OUR COMMUNITY, BUT NOT LIKE WALKABLE AND THE STRAWBERRY FARM ALSO.
UM, AND THEN OUR PARKS AND SCHOOLS MM-HMM
SO, UM, YEAH, I, WE'RE TOTALLY OPEN TO IDEAS IF, UM, YOU HAVE THOSE KIND OF IDEAS AND LOCATIONS.
'CAUSE THOSE ALL SOUND LIKE WITHIN, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE THINKING OF THAT SMALLER SCALE.
THAT'S STILL PRODUCING SOMETHING.
UM, THE, UH, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS ARE MAYBE BEYOND THE ZERO WASTE SONOMA MM-HMM
BUT, UM, WITHIN THE REALM OF ORGANIC WASTE, THE FIRST GOING BACK TO THE LANDFILL, I MEAN, WHAT A LOSS OF THAT PLACE.
I USED TO GO THERE ALL THE TIME.
UM, WHAT IS STILL THERE IS THE BIOENERGY FACILITY.
DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON THAT? IS THAT RUN BY THE COUNTY, A THIRD PARTY? UM, SO THERE'S TWO THINGS.
UM, SO ARE YOU TALKING, THERE'S TWO THINGS THAT I WANNA SHARE ABOUT YEAH.
THE LANDFILL ONE IS THE, UM, METHANE GAS TO ENERGY COLLECTION SYSTEM.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? EXACTLY, YEAH.
SO THERE'S, UM, EIGHT TURBINES ON THE SITES.
THE ENGINEERING FIRM THAT I USED TO WORK FOR WAS THE OPERATOR.
SO, UM, YES, THERE IS ENERGY THAT'S BEING PRODUCED FROM THE METHANE.
UM, BUT STILL, EVEN WHEN YOU HAVE THOSE GAS COLLECTION SYSTEMS, METHANE'S STILL ESCAPING INTO THE ENVIRONMENT.
UHHUH
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ORGANICS OUT OF THE LANDFILL.SO IN THEORY, THOSE TURBINES, UM, WOULD BE DECREASING OVER TIME.
UM, BUT ANOTHER THING, ANOTHER INVESTMENT AT THE LANDFILL TO SUPPORT, UM, COMPOSTING IS THAT THEY DID ACTUALLY, UH, RECENTLY PUT IN AN, UM, A, UH, D DE PACKAGER.
SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS THE COMMERCIAL GREEN WASTE GOES TO THE LANDFILL AT CENTRAL.
AND IT, AND IT COULD BE PACKAGED, I MEAN IT COULD BE IN CANS, IT COULD BE, UM, OIL JUGS, IT COULD BE EVERYTHING, BREAD AND BAGS.
AND IT GOES INTO THIS, UM, BIG ROUNDS, YOU KNOW, UH, CYLINDER THAT KIND OF LIKE ROTATES.
AND THE PACKAGING, YOU KNOW, THE WAY THAT THE PETALS ARE ON THE INSIDE SQUISHES OUT THE ORGANIC MATERIAL AND THE PACKAGING GETS PUSHED TO THE OUTSIDE AND THEN DOWN COMES ALL THE ORGANIC MATERIAL.
SO THAT MATERIAL IS GOING TO WATER TREATMENT PLANT TO PRODUCE ENERGY.
I KNOW RECOLOGY AT ONE POINT HAD A PLAN TO RUN THE FLEET ON THE BIOGAS FROM PETALUMA.
IT'S, THE BEST INFORMATION I HAVE IS THAT'S NO LONGER THE PLAN.
DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON THAT? AND MAYBE MORE WHAT IS ECOLOGY'S PLANS AND ARE THEY, THEY'RE A STAKEHOLDER, I'M SURE A ZERO WASTE SONOMA, BUT WHAT IS THEIR PLANS FOR THEIR FLEET? FOR THEIR FLEET? UM, A I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE BIOGAS AND THE PETALUMA PROJECT, BUT I DO KNOW THAT, UM, ELECTRIC IS REALLY STARTING TO MAKE ITS WAY INTO OUR INDUSTRY.
UM, THE, THE ROUTE TRUCKS ARE LIKE IDEAL FOR EV UHHUH BECAUSE THEY'RE CONSTANTLY STOPPING AND STARTING TO GO TO EACH HOUSE.
AND SO THAT IS THE, I'D SAY INNOVATION IN THE INDUSTRY IS DOING, UM, EV TRASH TRUCKS.
AND THEN THE NEXT INNOVATION IS, IS DRIVERLESS UHHUH.
WE'RE ALREADY STARTING TO SEE THOSE AT THE DIFFERENT TRADE SHOWS.
BUT THERE IS, THERE IS NO SORT OF OVERLAP BETWEEN COUNTY AND RECOLOGY ON THE FLEET NECESSARILY EARLY, NOT AT THE COUNTY.
IT WOULD BE LIKE YOUR CITY CONTRACT THROUGH THE FRANCHISE AGREEMENT.
LIKE IF YOUR CITY REQUIRED, YOU KNOW, BIO BIODIESEL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
PATRICK, LET'S WRITE THAT DOWN.
UM, THE BIOGAS ONE IF YOU'D LIKE.
BECAUSE IT IS, IT IS LESLIE'S RIGHT? IT IS, IT'S DIRECTLY RELATED TO CITY OPERATIONS.
SO, UM, WE, WE, AS, AS OUR BIOGAS IS RAMPING UP AGAIN, UM, THE REPAIRS HAVE BEEN MADE TO THAT FACILITY.
WE REACHED BACK OUT TO RECOLOGY TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT THAT.
UM, THEY ARE HESITANT TO COMMIT TO THAT BECAUSE THEY DON'T, THEY, THEY NEED THE TRUCKS TO RUN.
UM, THEY CAN'T BE, 'CAUSE THEY BOUGHT TRUCKS IN GOOD FAITH TO SERVICE AND THEN WE CUT OFF THE GAS SUPPLY.
SO THEY HAD TO FILL THOSE UP WITH, UM, WITH FOSSIL NATURAL GAS IN OTHER FACILITIES.
SO WHAT THEY WOULD WANT IS A COMMITMENT TO, UM, PAY FOR THAT PG E CONNECTION IN TOWN MM-HMM
UM, THEY WOULD WANT THAT INCLUDED IN THE FRANCHISE AGREEMENT IF THEY WERE GOING TO DO THAT.
THEIR CONCERN WITH THAT, AND THEY'RE WILLING TO DO THAT, BUT IT WOULD REQUIRE MORE RATE PAYER MONEY TO, TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
UM, THEIR STANCE ON IT THAT THEY'VE EXPRESSED TO ME IS THAT DIESEL IS WELL KNOWN.
UM, AND THOSE ONES ARE CONTINUED TO IMPROVE BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE STILL USING THEM.
ELECTRIC IS WHAT THEY'RE SEEING AS THE, THE NEXT BIG THING UHHUH.
UM, THEY'RE, THOSE ARE ABOUT TWICE THE COST OF A DIESEL TRUCK.
UM, BUT NOT OVER, NOT, NOT OUTRAGEOUS.
IF YOU AMORTIZE THAT OVER ENOUGH TIME, NATURAL GAS, VERY FEW PEOPLE ARE USING, THAT'S NOT GET, THAT'S NOT IMPROVING.
LIKE THE TECHNOLOGY ON THAT ISN'T, ISN'T INCREMENTALLY GETTING BETTER.
SO THEY'RE FEELING LIKE AN INVESTMENT IN THAT IS KIND OF LIKE JUST, IT'S NOT GONNA NECESSARILY GO ANYWHERE.
I THINK THEY WOULD RATHER LOOK AT EITHER DIESEL AND WHETHER THAT'S, UM, RENEWABLE DIESEL POWERING THAT, OR THEY, I THINK ARE VERY INTERESTED IN GETTING INTO ELECTRIC AND TRYING THAT OUT A FEW TRUCKS AT A TIME AND THEN EXPANDING THAT BASED ON GETTING THAT EXPERIENCE UNDER THEIR BELT.
UM, BUT WE'RE ALSO LOOKING, UM, IT'S, IT'S FUNNY AND, AND HOPEFULLY STEVE WORL IN THE WATER RESOURCES AND UTILITIES ISN'T GONNA GET ANGRY WITH ME ABOUT THIS.
BUT, UM, AND THIS IS GOING KIND OF FAR OFF LESLIE'S UH, DISCUSSION, SO I APOLOGIZE.
BUT, UM, SONOMA MCLEAN POWER IS LOOKING AT, UM, BIOGAS AS A POTENTIAL, UM, USE IN THEIR PORTFOLIO.
AND SO THERE'S A POTENTIAL TO LOOK AT OTHER CITIES TO DO THAT.
SO THERE'S GONNA BE A DISCUSSION, UM, JUST A REALLY BRIEF INITIAL DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER THAT'S A POTENTIAL.
UM, SO WE'RE, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S NOT FUELING VEHICLES,
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THEN MAYBE ELSE IT CAN BE DOING SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S PRODUCING POWER.UM, I MEAN, WE STILL NEED SOME OF THAT GAS TO HEAT THE PROCESS, BUT THERE IS EXCESS THAT COULD GO TO OTHER THINGS.
AND SO WE'RE EXPLORING THOSE OPTIONS AS WELL.
UH, AND I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION BACK TO THE ORGANICS.
I GUESS WHAT HAPPENS TO THE CONTAMINATED, LIKE THERE WAS THAT PICTURE OF, YOU KNOW, DOES THAT JUST GO TO THE LANDFILL OR? YEAH, SO THERE'S A WHOLE SCREENING PROCESS, UM, IN THE COMPOSTING, UM, SYSTEM.
WE GO TO FOUR DIFFERENT COMPOST SITES.
SO ALL OUR COMPOSTING SCREENING PROCESS ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
SOME DO PRESCREENING AND THEN, UM, IT GETS THROUGH THE SYSTEM LOT.
SO ESSENTIALLY THE COMPOST IS BEING MADE, IT GOES THROUGH THIS LIKE FUNNEL THING THAT HAS ALL THESE SCREENS ROTATING IN A CIRCLE, AND THEN THE COMPOST GETS PUSHED OUT AND THEN THE CONTAMINANTS GET, UM, TAKEN OUT THROUGH GRAVITY.
UHHUH,
BUT I GOTTA SAY, UM, PEOPLE LOVE OUR MATERIAL.
WE HAVE LESS THAN 1% CONTAMINATION.
SO IT IS, IT'S LIKE WE'RE THE BEST IN THE BAY AREA.
SO WHEN WE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE RAN UP AGAINST OF A CHALLENGE THAT I FORGOT TO MENTION IS CAPACITY, UM, FOR MATERIAL.
AND SO I MENTIONED THE 90,000 TONS, UM, THAT WE, UM, PROCESS ONE OF OUR FACILITIES A FEW MONTHS AGO SAID, WE CAN ONLY TAKE HALF OF IT.
WE, AND THEY CUT DOWN, UM, OUR CAPACITY LEVEL.
SO WE HAD TO DO THIS EMERGENCY CONTRACT TO FIGURE OUT WHERE'S ALL THIS MATERIAL GONNA GO.
UM, AND SO NOW WE HAVE CAPACITY, THE 90,000 THAT WE MANAGE UP TO 120,000.
IF SOMEBODY GOES DOWN, IF EQUIPMENT GOES DOWN, WE CAN MOVE MATERIAL TO OTHER PLACES.
BUT ANYWAY, WITH, UM, IN REGARDS TO CONTAMINANTS, YES, THERE'S A SCREENING PROCESS THAT IS TAKEN OUT AND THEN THE COMPOSTER HAS TO PAY THE BILL TO TAKE THAT MATERIAL AND SEND IT BACK TO THE LANDFILL.
UM, AND THIS MIGHT BE A TOUGH ONE.
WHAT DO YOU THINK THIS PARTICULAR COMMISSION COULD DO TO FURTHER YOUR WORK BESIDES SUPPORTING PATRICK'S WORK? HMM.
WELL, LESLIE, IF I CAN JUMP IN HERE REALLY QUICK PLEASE.
AND, AND THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS I INVITED LESLIE.
'CAUSE AS SHE MENTIONED, I'M PETALUMA'S BOARD MEMBER ON ZERO WASTE SONOMA.
AND WE RECEIVED LIKE THAT INFORMATION ABOUT NEEDING TO DO AN EMERGENCY CONTRACT TO BRING MORE MATERIAL ELSEWHERE.
THAT THE PROBLEM IS THERE'S MORE, MORE PRESSURE FROM THE STATE TO DIVERT THAT MATERIAL FROM LANDFILL INTO COMPOST FACILITIES, WHICH IS GREAT, A HUNDRED PERCENT BEHIND THAT.
BUT IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO CITE NEW FACILITIES.
AND THE FACILITIES THAT ARE OUT THERE ARE BURSTING AT THE, THE SEAMS BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S TRYING TO BRING THEIR MATERIAL THERE.
UM, SO PART OF THIS PRESENTATION WAS TO BRING AWARENESS TO THAT ISSUE WITH PETALUMA.
OUR MATERIAL IS MOSTLY GOING TO THE REDWOOD LANDFILL, WHICH IS JUST SOUTH.
IT'S IN BETWEEN HERE AND NOVATO, UM, ON YEAH, RIGHT ALONG THE, THE, THE, UM, SAN PABLO BAY.
AND THEY'RE ONE OF THE ONES THAT IS VERY CAPACITY CONSTRAINED AS WELL.
UM, SO, AND I, I APPRECIATE LESLIE, INCLUDING THE WARM COMPOSTING, THE BACKYARD COMPOSTING.
LIKE THERE'S THINGS THAT WE CAN DO NOW TO KIND OF ALLEVIATE THAT PROBLEM.
IT'S GREAT TO GET THAT MATERIAL IN THE GREEN BIN INSTEAD OF THE LANDFILL, BUT TO THE EXTENT THAT PEOPLE HAVE THE MEANS TO SET UP A WORM BOX TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR, SOME OF THEIR, THEIR MATERIALS, UM, IT, IT'S A POTENTIAL TO MITIGATE SOME OF THAT, THAT PROBLEM, THAT PAIN THAT WE'RE GONNA BE HAVING IN THE FUTURE AS MORE OF THESE FACILITIES EITHER RUN UP AGAINST THEIR CAPACITY AND HAVE TO TURN US AWAY.
UM, OR WE HAVE TO WAIT THE FOUR PLUS YEARS FOR NEW FACILITIES TO COME ONLINE.
I DON'T KNOW OF A LOT OF OTHER FACILITIES THAT ARE STILL ON THEIR WAY.
AND, AND THE ONES THAT ARE, ARE PRETTY FAR OUT OF COUNTY.
UM, SO I MEAN, WE'RE, I WAS, I BROUGHT UP THAT MAP.
THERE'S A LOT OF ROAD MILES TO GET THAT MATERIAL TO A COMPOST FACILITY, WHICH IS STILL THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
UM, SO I, YOU KNOW, REPRESENTING PETALUMA ON THE BOARD, MY SUGGESTION TO ZERO WASTE SONOMA WAS, HEY, CAN WE GET THE MESSAGE OUT? CAN WE TELL PEOPLE IF YOU ARE INTERESTED AT ALL IN DOING BACKYARD COMPOSTING OR WORM COMPOSTING IN A, IN A BOX, WE CAN HELP YOU WITH THE INFORMATION TO GET THOSE SET UP AND GET YOUR RESOURCES TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
UM, AND, AND I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT'S GONNA BE A FOCUS, UM, MOVING FORWARD.
I THINK ADVOCACY FOR THAT FACILITY, UM, WHEN, WHEN THE ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT COMES OUT, WOULD BE SUPER HELPFUL BECAUSE, UM, EVERYBODY THINKS COMPOST FACILITY IS THE GREATEST THING IN THE WORLD UNTIL IT'S IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THEN IT'S THE WORST PLACE IN THE WORLD TO PUT IT.
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YOU EVEN THINK ABOUT THAT.SO, UM, THERE NEEDS TO BE THAT COLLECTIVE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY, UH, ADVOCACY OUT THERE, UM, BECAUSE IT WON'T BE POPULAR WITH EVERYBODY.
UM, BUT WE'VE TRIED FOR DECADES WHEN I WAS WORKING WITH ZERO WASTE SONOMA, WE TRIED TO CITE A NEW FACILITY AND THAT FAILED.
UM, AND SO IN THE MEANTIME WE'VE BEEN TAKING ALL THAT MATERIAL OUT OF THE COUNTY AND TRUCKS.
SO, UM, ADVOCACY ON BRINGING MORE CAPACITY WITHIN SONOMA COUNTY WILL BE HELPFUL SO THAT WE CAN TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN MATERIAL AS WELL.
I HAVE ONE, ONE MORE QUESTION.
UM, SO WHEN YOU HAUL THE GREEN WASTE OUT TO THE FACILITY, DID THEY FILL THAT UP WITH COMPOST AND BRING IT BACK? THEY DO NOT.
AND THE REASON WHY IS 'CAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE CLEAN TRUCKS.
SO YEAH, THERE'S THE CONTAMINANTS IN THE TRUCK.
UM, J JUST FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE, IF YOU CAN TOUCH ON THIS FOR THE, UH, PROJECT THAT'S IN THE WORKS THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT, UM, I THINK FROM MY EXPERIENCE, OR I JUST LEANING ON YOUR EXPERTISE, DO YOU THINK THERE WOULD BE A TENSION TO THE CQA UM, ASSESSMENT? UM, I THINK IF THERE'S NO OPPOSITION TO IT, IT COULD PROCEED IN A MATTER OF A YEAR, A YEAR AND A HALF, TWO OR THREE OR FOUR.
IF THERE'S A GROUP THAT'S AGAINST IT.
UM, I'M WONDERING IF ON YOUR EXPERTISE, IF YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON, UH, OR, OR SEEN OTHER PROJECTS WHERE THEY'VE JUMPED IN AND OPPOSED IT.
SO 'CAUSE THAT COULD STALL THE, THE, THE ENTIRE TIMEFRAME OF THE PROJECT.
SO YEAH, THE CONSULTANT THAT WAS HIRED TO DO THE 30% DESIGN AND LOOK INTO THE PERMITTING ALSO STARTED THE STUDIES FOR CE QA.
SO THEY, THEY ARE ACTUALLY FARTHER AHEAD, UM, FOR WHOEVER, WHICHEVER COMPANY'S GONNA BE COMING IN AND, AND COMPLETING CE QA.
UM, AND AGAIN, THAT FEASIBILITY STUDY THAT WHAT WE STARTED WITH WAS ALSO LIKE, OKAY, IS THIS EVEN FEASIBLE? AND CE QA WAS A COMPONENT OF UNDERSTANDING THAT, UM, THE PERMITTING PROCESS IS ALSO, I WOULD SAY A VERY BIG HURDLE.
AND THAT'S WITH THE AIR RESOURCES BOARD, UH, THE BAY AREA AIR RESOURCES BOARD.
AND THERE'S A REAL BIG DISCONNECT, UM, BETWEEN THE AIR BOARD AND THE KIND OF, UM, OFF-GASSING THAT A COMPOST FACILITY DOES.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT LEGISLATORS HAVE TRIED TO FIX WITH LEGISLATION.
IT DID NOT PASS THIS LAST CYCLE.
THE BOARD, MY BOARD DID DIRECT ME TO BE MORE VOCAL AT THE STATE LEVEL.
AND SO I'VE GONE TO BOTH OUR LOBBYISTS IN SACRAMENTO.
UM, I WAS INVITED TO GO TO SACRAMENTO YESTERDAY TO TESTIFY ON ANOTHER, UM, LEGISLATION TO SUPPORT COMPOSTING BECAUSE THAT PERMITTING PROCESS, WE KNOW WE NEED MORE CAPACITY.
AND IT SEEMS LIKE THE, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, NAPA'S BEEN WAITING FOR THEIR AIR PERMIT FOR THEIR COMPOST FACILITY FOR SEVEN YEARS.
SO AT THE STATE LEVEL, WE'RE HOPING THAT LEGISLATORS, UM, YOU KNOW, CONNOLLY AND, UM, OTHERS HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN, IN THIS.
UM, SO WE'RE LOOKING TO THEM AND MAKING CONNECTIONS WITH THEM THAT LIKE, YES, WE, WE NEED HELP BECAUSE THE STATE CAL CYCLE WANTS 50 TO A HUNDRED NEW COMPOST FACILITIES.
AND SINCE THAT LAW WAS PASSED SEVERAL YEARS AGO, I THINK WE'VE HAD LIKE TWO OR THREE COME ONLINE.
IT'S NOT, WE'RE NOT HITTING THOSE TARGETS.
ANY, NO OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, I JUST WILL, UM, MAKE A LITTLE COMMENT THAT I BELIEVE WE HAVE ZERO WASTE, UH, SONOMA PEOPLE IN THE, UM, HABITAT WORKING GROUP.
IS THAT RIGHT? SO THE, THE WORKING GROUPS THAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE CITY? OH, YES.
UM, AND THE HABITAT WORKING GROUP WOULD BE, UH, SO FOR THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW, UM, IT'S, IT'S A WORK.
SO IT'S A GROUP IN PETALUMA THAT'S TRYING TO WORK ON, UM, HEALTHY SOILS AND, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT, LIKE ON A LOCAL LEVEL, BUT BY PARTNERING WITH GROUPS THAT ARE ALREADY DOING LIKE ZERO A SONOMA, THAT ARE ALREADY DOING GOOD WORK IN THAT AREA.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M HAPPY TO BRING BACK THIS SORT OF WISHLIST OF HOW WE CAN SUPPORT, UM, TO THAT GROUP.
UM, BUT JUST TO REITERATE, UM, LIKE HELPING DO, GETTING, SORRY, DONATING EDIBLE FOOD, COMPOSTING AT HOME, AND THEN WHEN THE COMMUNITY COMPOSTING STUFF GETS OFF THE GROUND, THAT, UM, AND THEN SUPPORT THE EFFORT IN OPENING A NEW FACILITY AND THEN, UH, AT THE STATE LEVEL MAY BE APPEALING TO OUR STATE REPRESENTATIVES FOR THE AIR QUALITY COMPOST CONUNDRUM.
AND IF YOU GUYS WRITE LETTERS, WE CAN BE HAPPY TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE A FORM LETTER TO HELP YOU GUYS SIGN OFF ON VARIOUS LEGISLATION THAT WE SEE COMING DOWN AT THE STATE LEVEL.
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I THINK WE VERY GOOD.YEAH, I CAN, UH, JUST ADD, I KNOW THE, UH, THE ABUNDANCE MOVEMENT, ONE OF THE THINGS THEY'RE AFTER IS TRY TO REDUCE THE, THE CQA REQUIREMENTS SO THAT IF SOMETHING IS A REASONABLE, PRACTICAL THING THAT'S AS NEEDED, UM, IF THERE'S ENOUGH REASON AND ENOUGH, UH, BACKUP AND THERE ISN'T THAT MUCH TROUBLE THAT, UH, STREAMLINE THE PROCESS.
UM, AND SO THAT IS PART OF WHAT MAY BE HAPPENING IN CALIFORNIA LEGISLATIVE.
SO WE CAN, WE CAN PUSH THAT FORWARD MAYBE.
AND, AND YET CA KIND OF REDUCED DOWN FOR PROJECTS THAT THE COMMUNITY ACTUALLY NEEDS.
THAT WOULD MAYBE BE ANOTHER FORM LETTER.
WE'RE, WE'RE HOPING THAT OUR PROJECT CAN BE A PROJECT THAT WE CAN SAY CAL RECYCLE AND, UM, THAT AIR RESOURCES BOARD ARE WORKING TOGETHER YEAH.
TO GET THE PERMITTING PROCESS STREAMLINED SO THAT THAT CAN BE AN EXAMPLE.
'CAUSE THIS IS A PROJECT THAT'S IN THE WORKS.
OKAY, NOW WE'RE ON TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON ITEMS OF PUBLIC INTEREST THAT ARE WITHIN THE COMMISSION'S SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION, AND THAT ARE NOT LISTED ON THE CURRENT AGENDA.
PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO UP TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON, DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF PERSONS WISHING TO ADDRESS.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE THAT PROBLEM.
UM, DID WE RECEIVE ANY COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING? NO, NO PRIOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
I WONDER IF YOU GUYS GOT THE SAME MM-HMM
UM, IN THAT CASE, WE WILL CLOSE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT AND MOVE ON TO APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR THE REGULAR MEETING OF JANUARY 8TH, 2026.
ACTUALLY, I THINK THERE WAS ONE EMAIL THAT, OR AT LEAST ONE EMAIL THAT WAS RECEIVED.
SO WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THAT GETS POSTED ON THERE.
I GOT THREE OR FOUR, BUT I DON'T, I DIDN'T LOOK TO SEE IF IT WAS SENT TO THE WHOLE COMMISSION OR IF IT WAS JUST ME.
SO I THINK IT WAS THE WHOLE COMMISSION.
SO YEAH, I THINK WE'LL, WE'LL CHECK OUR RECORDS TO MAKE SURE AND, AND GET THOSE UP ON THE WEBSITE.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE MINUTES? OKAY.THAT MEANS THAT WE, THEY'RE APPROVED WITH, UM, WITHOUT CHANGES.
[PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION]
ITEM IS, UM, THE BULK OF THE EVENING PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION.FIRST ITEM IS DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL REGARDING UPCOMING WORK PLAN PRIORITIES.
I'LL, I'LL LET YOU TEE IT UP, BUT SURE.
UM, SO EVERY YEAR, UH, THE COUNCIL HAS A TRADITION OF, UH, TALKING ABOUT ITS PRIORITIES, UH, FOR THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR WITH STAFF.
UM, IT'S A KIND OF CHANCE TO LOOK BACK AT THE PROGRESS THAT'S BEEN DONE OVER THE PAST YEAR AND LOOK FORWARD TO THE THINGS THAT COULD BE DONE, UM, TO THE LIST.
THERE'S AN AMAZING AMOUNT OF WORK,
AND I THINK THIS YEAR WE'RE GONNA KIND OF TAKE SPECIAL, UM, FOCUS ON, ON WHERE WE'VE BEEN.
UM, I MEAN, MEASURE YOU THE, THE 1 CENT SALES TAX IS KIND OF LIKE A, AN INFLECTION POINT TO KIND OF LOOK BACK AT LIKE WHERE THE COMMUNITY WAS AT THAT POINT AND WHERE WE ARE NOW.
'CAUSE YOU STEADILY MAKE PROGRESS DAY BY DAY, AND IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A LOT, BUT THEN WHEN YOU LOOK BACK, IT'S LIKE, MY GOSH, WE'VE, WE'VE COME SO FAR.
SO I THINK THERE'S GONNA BE A, A BIGGER ELEMENT OF THAT.
UM, IN THIS NEXT, UH, PRESENTATION, WHICH WILL HAPPEN ON MARCH 23RD, UM, IT'S GONE FROM SOMETHING LIKE A HUGE LIST OF 250 TASKS ON A LIST, UM, AND TRYING TO MAKE A, A TOP 10 OUT OF THAT.
AND THEN IT'S GONE TO KIND OF LIKE, WELL, HERE'S THE THINGS WE CAN ACTUALLY DO IN A YEAR.
AND HERE'S OUR LIST OF LEGISLATIVE INITIATIVES, PROGRAMMATIC POLICY AND PLANNING EFFORTS IN OUR INTERNAL ORGANIZATIONAL GOALS.
UM, WITH THE PASSAGE OF THE BLUEPRINT DOCUMENT IN NOVEMBER OF 2024, UM, THIS GROUP HAS REALLY FOCUSED ON THE IMPLEMENT IMPLEMENTATION.
IT'S ONE THING TO HAVE A PLAN, IT'S ANOTHER THING TO ACTUALLY DO THE THINGS THAT THAT PLAN SAYS AND, AND GET THOSE IN PLACE AND, AND DOING THE GOOD WORK THAT THEY NEED TO DO.
UM, SO I THINK IT'S ESPECIALLY RELEVANT FOR THIS COMMISSION TO FOCUS ON THE, THE BLUEPRINT ITEMS, WHICH IS NOT TO SAY IT HAS TO BE EXCLUSIVELY THAT, UM, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME TALK ABOUT SUPPORT FOR THE
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GENERAL PLAN AND THE DENSITY THAT THAT HAS IN THE LAND USE.UM, TYPES OF THINGS LIKE THAT, WHICH IS RELATED TO THE BLUEPRINT.
UM, BUT WITH THAT, THIS IS KIND OF THE COMMISSION'S OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT WHAT'S IN THE BLUEPRINT, LOOK AT THE UNIVERSE OF THINGS THAT SHOULD BE DONE, UM, AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE COUNCIL ON WHAT THEY WOULD RECOMMEND GETTING LIFTED UP BY THE COUNCIL IN THAT DISCUSSION ON MARCH 23RD.
UM, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME TALK ABOUT RESOLUTIONS.
THE COMMISSION DOESN'T DO RES RESOLUTIONS, BUT THEY CAN MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS.
THAT'S SPECIFICALLY IN THE, THE BIO, IN THE, UM, DOCUMENTS THAT CREATED THIS.
UM, THEY'RE TO ADVISE THE COUNCIL.
UM, SO MAKING THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD BE GREAT.
UM, AND WE ALL KNOW THAT THE BLUEPRINT HAS SO MUCH AMBITION AND SO MUCH TO DO, AND THERE'S, UH, ONLY SO MANY OF US TO DO IT.
AND A LOT OF THOSE THINGS REQUIRE COMMUNITY, UH, PARTICIPATION AS WELL TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
SO, YEAH, I, I, I THINK WITH THAT PREAMBLE, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE COMMISSION TO TALK ABOUT ANY SPECIAL ITEMS THAT THEY'D LIKE TO LIFT UP AND HAVE STAFF, UM, REPORT TO COUNCIL ON THEIR, UH, RECOMMENDATION AND INCLUSION IN THE WORK PLAN DISCUSSION.
SO, UM, WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO GO FIRST ON, BASICALLY BRING, BRING UP AN ITEM THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND TO COUNCIL? I GO FOR IT.
I JUST, 'CAUSE MINE MIGHT BE A LITTLE MORE CONTENTIOUS, SO YOU HAVE A LITTLE DESSERT BEFORE DINNER HERE.
UM, THE, UH, THING I FOR YOU, A CONSIDERATION AS A POSSIBILITY, THERE'S, UM, A COUPLE AREAS, UH, TO THINK ABOUT MIGHT BE NEW, UM, THAT'S SORT OF MAYBE, UH, SORT OF LIKE A SMALLER PART OF THE BLUEPRINT, BUT MAYBE EXPAND IT OUT TO SEE IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
BUT, UM, AS YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN WORKING ON A MICROCAR RESEARCH, UH, ALL AROUND THE WORLD GLOBALLY.
AND, UM, ONE OF THE, THE, THE TOPICS THAT I'VE, I'M LOOKING AT AS A POSSIBILITY PROPOSAL MAYBE COMING FROM THIS GROUP, UM, WOULD BE TO CREATE A RIDE SHARE, UM, AT THE, UH, NORTH STATION PARTICULARLY, WHICH ALREADY HAS THE ELECTRICAL SET UP.
AND TO GO AFTER GRANT MONIES TO GET THE CHARGE STATIONS AND A SET OF MICROCAR WE'RE USING EITHER ZIPCAR OR OTHER SERVICE.
UM, AND THEN WE CAN ACTUALLY GET A, UM, A DEMONSTRATION SPOT FOR USING, UM, RIDESHARES AS WELL AS IN ACTUAL CARS AS WELL AS, UH, MICROCAR CONCEPT AND GET A FEW OF THOSE OUT ON OUR STREET.
ANYWAY, SO THAT'S A, JUST A CONCEPT.
I'M, I'M, I'M, I'M WORKING ON IS THINK OF AS A PROPOSAL.
AND A SECOND ONE IS THAT THE TOPIC KEEPS COMING UP IS WE REALLY WANT TO HAVE BICYCLES, ESPECIALLY ELECTRIC BICYCLES TO BE MOVED FORWARD AS A MOVEMENT.
AND RIGHT NOW IT'S HUNG UP ON SOME OF THE, UM, UH, UH, THE TEENAGERS DOING A FEW ANTICS GETTING INJURED.
AND SO THAT IS PUTTING LIKE A, A, IT'S A BIT OF A GLITCH THAT'S HAPPENING IN THE MOVEMENT TO GET A LOT MORE PEOPLE ON ELECTRIC BIKES IN GENERAL.
AND SO I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE RESOLVED.
UM, I KNOW THE STATE HAS, HAS SORT OF BEEN TALKING ABOUT, AND THE COUNTY'S TALKING ABOUT REGULATIONS, BUT IT'S POSSIBLE, UM, I'VE GOT A LIST OF LIKE POSSIBLE REGULATIONS THAT EVEN THE CITIES HAVE, UM, AND THEN THE CITIES COULD ACTUALLY SUPPORT AND ALONG WITH THE STATE AND THE COUNTY, THAT EVENTUALLY WE'LL ALL GET TOGETHER, BUT WE COULD INITIATE THAT STILL MAY TAKE SOME TIME, BUT WE COULD ACTUALLY INITIATE OUR OWN RULES AND REGULATIONS FOR E-BIKE SAFETY AND TO HELP PROMOTE THAT MOVEMENT.
AND WHETHER OR NOT WE, WE WAIT FOR THE STATE AND WAIT FOR THE COUNTY, OR WHETHER WE INITIATE SOMETHING OURSELVES AND THEN PUSH IT FORWARD AND THEN MAYBE THE COUNTY AND STATE PAID MORE ATTENTION TO THIS ISSUE.
SO, UM, I THINK, UM, TO GET THAT MOVEMENT IN A POSITIVE WAY RATHER THAN A NEGATIVE WAY, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE MAY NEED TO MOVE FORWARD ON.
UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, WE ALREADY HAVE THE, UH, WELL, WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT, WE TALK ABOUT LATER ABOUT ALL THE EV CHARGE STATIONS AND INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.
THOSE ARE ALREADY SET UP AS PRIORITIES THAT WE NEED TO GET DONE.
SO, UM, THAT I'LL LET YOU, AND THEN OF COURSE WE'VE GOT BUILDINGS AND, AND OTHER THINGS TOO.
SO IS, IS THERE ANYTHING IN, IN OUR OTHER AREAS THAT YOU FOLKS WOULD LIKE TO MOVE, BRING FORWARD OR BRING UP AND, UH, RAISE UP IN, IN PRIORITY? THANK YOU.
UM, SHOULD WE JUST MOVE THIS WAY? DO YOU HAVE ANY BEN? UM, I GUESS FIRST TO RESPOND TO THE NUMBER ONE ON THE, THE GRANT CONCEPT, UM, I WOULD SAY THE FIRST CONNECTION I MAKE TO LIKE THE WORK PLAN
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IS THE BROADER WORK OF LIKE GRANT MAKING.AND I KNOW EVERY TIME THERE IS LIKE THE BUDGET, THERE'S THE, THIS IS HOW SUCCESSFUL WE HAVE BEEN IN GRANTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I WOULD, I CERTAINLY LIKE THE MICRO CAR PROPOSAL IDEA, BUT I GUESS I WOULD RATHER LIFT UP AS MORE OF A WORK PLAN ITEM, JUST A BROADER INITIATIVE TO FOCUS ON GRANTS MORE JUST BECAUSE THE, THE DIFFERENT AGENCIES AT THE STATE HAVE THE DIFFERENT GRANTS AT THE DIFFERENT CYCLES.
AND IF THE MICROCAR THING DOESN'T MATCH WITH OUR WORK PLAN, THEN WE DON'T PURSUE IT WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE EV CHARGING GRANT IS THERE.
RIGHT? SO I WOULD LIFT UP LIKE HOW DO WE GO AFTER MORE CLIMATE RELATED GRANTS IN OUR WORK PLAN, INCLUDING A MICROCAR PROPOSAL? BECAUSE WHAT I HAVE HEARD IS THAT, UM, EVEN IF WE WERE VERY SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING GRANTS AND RECEIVED BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF GRANTS, THERE'S A STAFF LIMITATION OF ACTUALLY HAVING A PROJECT MANAGER ASSIGNED TO THE GRANT AND THEN WORKING ON THE GRANT.
AND SO THERE'S ACTUALLY SORT OF A UNKNOWN CONSTRAINT AROUND THE GRANTS, WHICH SHOULD BE HOPEFULLY DISCUSSED AND UNDERSTOOD SUCH THAT IF THE CITY COULD RESOLVE THAT CONSTRAINT OR IDENTIFY THAT CONSTRAINT THAT MAY MORE RESOURCES ARE PUT TOWARDS IT AS PART OF THE WORK PLAN, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
SO LIKE IF THE BROADER CITY COUNCIL'S LIKE, I LOVE IT, LET'S GO AFTER MORE GRANTS.
WHAT THAT MEANS IS LIKE MORE FTE TO GRANT MANAGERS AND PROJECT MANAGERS, THEN THAT'S A CONSCIOUS DECISION THAT THEY COULD MAKE.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, CLIMATE RELATED GRANT SEEKING AND GRANT MANAGEMENT IS DEFINITELY A HIGH PRIORITY.
I WOULD AGREE WITH, UH, WITH, YOU KNOW, THE SPECIFIC FOCUS AROUND DOING SOMETHING AT THE FAIRGROUNDS.
UM, AND THEN EVEN SECONDARILY, YOU KNOW, A MICROCAR THING, I THINK THERE'S A LOT THAT COULD BE DONE AT THE FAIRGROUNDS RELATED TO CEC GRANTS IN PARTICULAR AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, THE BAY QMD GRANTS.
I MEAN THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY 10 DIFFERENT AGENCIES THAT THE FAIRGROUNDS INTERSECTS WITH IN PARTICULAR.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE WHOLE RESILIENCE CENTER, YOU KNOW, WE'VE SORT OF HAVE MOVED ON FROM THE RESILIENCE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE STATUS IS OF THAT, BUT LIKE THAT'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE, RIGHT? COMING FROM LIKE THE FAIRGROUNDS AGENCY.
SO, UM, ANYWAY, THAT'S MY OPINION IS DEFINITELY AS A WORK PLAN ITEM, YOU KNOW, A DISCUSSION OF GRANTS, A PRIORITIZATION OF GRANTS, AND THEN THE STAFFING TO ACHIEVE THAT, BOTH WINNING AND THEN IMPLEMENTING.
UM, YEAH, AND I MEAN THE, THE BIKE SAFE THAT SEEMS, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S LIKE A NEW WORK PLAN ITEM, I GUESS.
UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO TWIN THAT WITH, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY A LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, A CARROT AND A STICK I GUESS ON THE, UM, E-BIKE SAFETY.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BEEN SLOWLY BUT SURELY WORKING ON THE A TP AND YOU KNOW, I WOULD SI WOULD TRY AND MAKE ANY WORK PLAN ITEM RELATED TO BIKE SAFETY, UM, TO ALSO INCLUDE MORE AGGRESSIVE WORK RELATED TO, UM, BIKE INFRASTRUCTURE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
AND THEN THIS, YOU KNOW, THE LAST ONE I GUESS IS A BIT OF A QUESTION.
PATRICK, YOU MENTIONED THE MEASURE U UM, SO I KNOW IN THE MEASURE U THERE'S BEEN LIKE 300 K FOR EV CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE SORT OF JUST CONTINUED FORWARD.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S NOW GONNA BE GONE WITH THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMPLEX AND THAT'S UNFORTUNATE.
POSSIBLY, UH, I WOULD SAY, UM, BUT WHAT IS THE SITUATION WITH THE EV INFRASTRUCTURE LINE ITEM? SO THE BUDGET DOCUMENTS ARE STILL IN FLUX.
I I DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC RESPONSE TO THAT OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE HAD SOME PRETTY BIG HITS TO THE GENERAL FUND AND MEASURE U UM, I MEAN EVEN JUST RECENTLY I, I KNOW THAT, UM, THE COUNTIES CUTTING WAY BACK ON THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE SAFE TEAM, UM, THE CHANGES WITH ANIMAL SERVICES ARE GONNA BE DRASTICALLY MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THEY ARE.
AND SO I THINK RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW DO WE PLUG THOSE VITAL COMMUNITY SERVICE,
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UM, FUNCTIONS.SO I I, I CAN'T, I, I CAN'T GIVE YOU A SPECIFIC RESPONSE TO THAT OTHER THAN IT'S JUST GONNA BE A VERY DIFFICULT YEAR TO, TO FILL THOSE GAPS IN THE GENERAL FUND.
I GUESS MAYBE EVEN FORESEEN, UH, I WOULD MAYBE LIKE TO LIFT UP JUST A RECOGNITION OF THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING IS WE HAVE BEEN DEDICATING MEASURE U FUNDS TOWARDS EV CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE AND THAT IS NOW GOING AWAY AND LET'S MAKE A CONSCIOUS RECOGNITION OF THAT IN THE VERY SMALL MEASURE U TABLE THAT EXISTS.
AND SO RECOGNIZING THAT'S GOING AWAY, WHAT CAN WE DO? AND I WOULD THINK THAT SUPPORTS RIGHT BACK INTO THE FIRST POINT ON GRANTS, RIGHT? AND SO, UM, BUT DOING THAT IN A CONSCIOUS WAY THAT EVERYONE IS AWARE OF, LIKE WE ARE CONSCIOUSLY RECOGNIZING THAT WE ARE NO LONGER GOING TO PUT A BUDGET LINE ITEM TOWARDS EV CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH IS UNFORTUNATE.
AND IF IT WERE UP TO ME WOULD NOT BE THE CASE.
BUT RECOGNIZING THAT IS THE REALITY.
UM, EV CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE IS SOMETHING THE CITY HAS PROBABLY THE MOST CONTROL OF, UH, RELATED TO, UH, THE CLIMATE IMPACTS OF OUR COMMUNITY OVERALL.
YOU KNOW, THAT 70% OF OUR MISSIONS COME FROM CARS, YOU KNOW, CHARGING FROM EV INFRASTRUCTURE FROM THE CITY THAT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT RENEWABLE.
LIKE THAT'S THE MOST IMPACTFUL THING THE CITY CAN BE DOING OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, ANYWAY.
SO THAT'S AS PART OF THE WORK PLAN, I WOULD AT LEAST LIKE TO HAVE THAT RECOGNITION AND POSSIBLY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF COMMITMENTS CAN BE MADE, BUT LIKE HOW DO WE CONTINUE TO WORK ON THE EV TOPIC, THE EV INFRASTRUCTURE TOPIC, RECOGNIZING WE NEED TO GO AT IT IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
I MEAN, JUST TO DIRECTLY RESPOND TO THAT LAST BIT, UM, WE ARE ON THE WAIT LIST FOR THE CHARGE PROGRAM.
I THINK IT'S CHARGED WITH A EXCLAMATION POINT AS OPPOSED TO THE COMMUNITIES IN CHARGE.
UM, FOR THE COMMUNITY CENTER, UM, THAT ONE'S HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FOR DC FAST CHARGING, UM, AT THAT SITE.
SO, UM, YES, I THINK WE ARE, I MEAN WE'RE STILL PURSUING GRANTS, THE, THE FEW GRANTS THAT, THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR THERE, AND THAT WOULD BE PUBLIC, UM, CHARGING THAT I THINK WE'D PIGGYBACK WITH OUR FLEET WHERE IT'S AVAILABLE AS WELL 'CAUSE IT'S FAST CHARGING.
UM, SO YES, WE ARE STILL PURSUING THOSE GRANTS, UM, AS, AS MUCH AS WE CAN TO, TO FILL THOSE GAPS.
YOU DON'T HAVE ANY THAT YOU WANNA ADD? UM, I MEAN IT'S THIS, I'M SORT OF GETTING INTO THE, THE AD HOC UPDATE.
UM, AND THIS IS, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO MAKE IT A WORK PLAN ITEM, BUT THE EV AD HOC RECOMMENDATIONS, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SEVERAL WORK PLAN ITEMS THAT COULD COME FROM THAT.
UM, AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL, THE PROMOTION OF PURCHASING EVS IN PARTICULAR USED EVS.
YOU KNOW, THERE IS NOT A BETTER TIME ON PLANET EARTH TO BUY A USED EV THAN, YOU KNOW, THIS YEAR AND MAYBE NEXT YEAR.
AND, YOU KNOW, BUT FEW PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF THAT OPPORTUNITY, YOU KNOW, THAT IS THE CHEAPEST AND CLEANEST FORM OF TRANSPORTATION.
WELL, NOT WALKING, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, ANYWAY,
UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, GETTING THE MESSAGE OUT ABOUT USED EVS, THAT'S CERTAINLY LIKE A COMMUNICATION WORK PLAN, BUT THERE'S A LOT MORE THAT COULD GO INTO IT THAN THAT.
UM, BUT YEAH, JUST A POINT OF INFORMATION JUST TO ADD, IT'S RIGHT NOW, I JUST CHECKED INTO IT MYSELF.
THERE'S A $4,000 REBATE BUYING A USED EV FOR ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO DO THAT FROM PG E.
AND I MEAN, I GUESS I, YOU KNOW, I'LL SAY ALL THE, ALL SOME OF THE AD HOC STUFF NOW, RIGHT? I MEAN THE, THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE HISTORICALLY THERE WAS THE EV TAX CREDIT, RIGHT? AND THEN BECAUSE PEOPLE COULDN'T USE TAX CREDITS, THEN LEASING EVS WAS THE WAY TO USE THE TAX CREDIT.
SO STARTING THREE TO FIVE YEARS AGO, THERE WAS A BOOM IN ELECTRIC VEHICLE LEASES, RIGHT? THOSE VEHICLES ARE COMING OFF OF LEASE.
THERE'S A MASSIVE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE PRICE OF A NEW EV AND THE RESIDUAL VALUE OF THE
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USED EV SUCH THAT THEY ARE NOT GOING TO GET RERELEASED AS THEY WOULD TYPICALLY, AND THEY'RE GOING TO COME OFF LEASE, BE AUCTIONED, AND THEN BE AVAILABLE TO BE PICKED UP BY DEALERS AND RESOLD.AND SO THE MORE WE CAN ENCOURAGE THE USED EV DEALERS TO COME AND MARKET THOSE IN PETALUMA TO GET OUR AUTO DEALERS TO PROMOTE USED EVS.
THAT'S MORE DIFFICULT BECAUSE THEY'RE IN THE BUSINESS OF SELLING NEW VEHICLES.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, SO THERE'S A WHOLE MAZE TO NAVIGATE THERE.
UH, AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, THE STATE AND, YOU KNOW, UH, PG E ARE OFFERING INCENTIVES FOR THESE USED EVS.
SO THEY ARE BY FAR THE CHEAPEST PRIVATE VEHICLE RIGHT NOW.
AND SO THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO STEP IN AND UPLIFT THAT.
ALRIGHT, SO, UH, THIS IS, UH, AN ITEM THAT, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT DURING, UH, OUR, OUR RECENT MEETING IN THE RUN UP TO, UH, TONIGHT'S MEETING.
UH, WE ARE NOW IN FULL SWING OF THE GENERAL PLAN UPDATE AND, UH, ONE OF THE COMPONENTS OF THE GENERAL PLAN UPDATE IS UPDATED, UH, LAND USE MAPS AND ZONING, UH, WHICH IS A, A, YOU KNOW, CRITICAL COMPONENT THAT AFFECTS, UH, LAND USE IN THE CITY FOR THE NEXT 25 YEARS.
AND, UH, IN OUR, UH, BLUEPRINT, UH, WE HAVE, UH, PART OF, PART OF OUR BLUEPRINT IS THE CORNERSTONE ACTION THAT ADDRESSES THE GENERAL PLAN UPDATE, WHICH IS TLUC ONE AND TLUC TWO.
AND, UH, FROM WHAT I'VE GATHERED FROM CITY LEADERS, ONE THING THAT THE COMMISSION CAN DO TO, UH, ENSURE THAT THE, UH, GENERAL PLAN UPDATE ALIGNS WITH THE BLUEPRINT IS TO LEND OUR VOICE TO SUPPORT IT.
AND I'M PROPOSING THAT THIS COMMISSION MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OR A RESOLUTION TO COUNSEL, UH, IN SUPPORT OF THE GENERAL PLAN UPDATE WITH ITS UPDATED LAND USE AND ZONING MAPS, UH, AS BY, OR I SHOULD SAY AS IS RIGHT THERE, THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY, UH, FOR SOME REVISIONS TO IT, BUT WHAT I'M HOPING TO ACCOMPLISH THIS IS BOLSTER THE CASE FOR THE HIGHER DENSITY THAT EXISTS IN THESE UPDATED, UH, MAPS AS A, UH, CRITICAL COMPONENT OF OUR ABILITY TO ADDRESS, UH, CLIMATE CHANGE.
WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO, UH, GROW AS A CITY OUTWARD BECAUSE OF OUR, UH, GREEN BELT AND DENSITY ALLOWS US TO, UH, CREATE MORE WALKABLE COMMUNITIES.
AND THE, THE, UH, GENERAL PLAN UPDATE AS IT EXISTS IS A HUGE STEP FORWARD IN THAT EFFORT.
AND SO, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER THAT AS PART OF OUR BUSINESS TO, UH, PASS THIS UP.
PATRICK, YOU DID MENTION THAT, UH, THE, THE COMMISSION DOESN'T CREATE RESOLUTIONS, BUT I FOUND, UH, AN AN EXAMPLE OF THAT, UH, RESOLUTION NUMBER 2021 DASH XXX AND CS.
UH, THIS IS BACK IN 2019, UH, RESOLUTION OF THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF PETALUMA AUTHORIZING PARTICIPATION IN THE COOL CITY CHALLENGE AS A COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION.
SO IS THAT, CAN YOU PLEASE CLARIFY THE CITY'S, UH, POSITION ON THE COMMISSION, UH, VOTING ON RESOLUTIONS? I WAS PROBABLY THE STAFF MEMBER THAT WAS THERE WHEN THAT HAPPENED.
UM, SOME THINGS HAPPENED THAT SHOULDN'T.
UM, I, I, AS, AS A NORMAL COURSE OF BUSINESS, ONLY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE COUNCIL DO RESOLUTIONS.
SO THAT MAY HAVE BEEN AN OOPS ON MY PART BACK THEN,
UM, WHICH IS NOT TO SAY THAT THE RECOMMENDATION CARRIES LESS WEIGHT IF IT'S JUST A RECOMMENDATION VERSUS A RESOLUTION.
UM, SO I CAN PROBABLY SAY IT WAS PROBABLY MY MISTAKE BACK THEN THAT THAT HAPPENED.
THEN I PROBABLY GOT CHASTISED AT THE TIME IF THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT SAW THAT.
BUT, UM, YEAH, THAT'S GENERALLY NOT HOW, HOW IT'S DONE.
UH, IS THERE, YEAH, I MEAN, AS LONG TO ME, I DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT THE NOMENCLATURE AS LONG AS IT'S THE VOICE OF THE COMMISSION.
UH, WE ALSO DO HAVE NEW COMMISSION MEMBERS WHO, UM, YOU KNOW, WEREN'T HERE DURING THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT OF THE BLUEPRINT, SO WOULD NOT EXPECT, UH, YOU TO NECESSARILY WANNA WEIGH IN
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AS, AS, UH, ON, ON THIS KIND OF A RECOMMENDATION.ALTHOUGH I WOULD JUST HOPE THAT YOU HAVE READ THE BLUEPRINT AND, AND ARE ALIGNED WITH IT ALREADY
SO, UM, BUT, BUT IF NOT, THAT'S TOTALLY UNDERSTANDABLE.
UH, SO YEAH, THAT, THAT WAS MY MAIN AIM WAS TO LEND OUR VOICE TO THIS GENERAL PLAN UPDATE, UH, PAST THIS RECOMMENDATION SO THAT WE CAN BOLSTER THE CITY'S CASE AND, UM, HOPEFULLY DEFRAY ANY WAFFLING ON THE CITY'S PART, UH, TO ITS COMMITMENT TO THE BLUEPRINT AND THE DENSITY THAT WE IS REQUIRED TO ACHIEVE OUR GOALS.
I GUESS JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON THAT, UM, IS THAT A, IS THAT A WORK PLAN ITEM? OR LIKE, SAY WE DID HAVE A UNIFIED VOICE AND CONSENSUS, WHAT WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE FORUM AND VENUE FOR THAT? IS THAT THE WORK PLAN OR IS THAT LIKE A, THE STAFF WORKSHOP OR THE CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP ON THE TOPIC? WHAT DO YOU THINK? WELL, I MEAN, SO THE, IF THERE'S A CONSENSUS OR, OR AT LEAST THE MAJORITY OF THE CLINICIAN THAT SAYS, THESE ARE THE THINGS WE WANNA RECOMMEND, WE CAN PUT THAT INTO THE STAFF REPORT.
SO IT'S LIKE THERE FROM THE TOP, IT'S INCLUDED IN THE MATERIALS THAT GO OUT TO ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS.
IF THERE'S THINGS THAT INDIVIDUAL COMMISSION MEMBERS REALLY FEEL LIKE STRONGLY ABOUT, AND MAYBE IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, A, A MAJORITY OF THE COMMISSION HERE, YOU ARE PRIVATE CITIZENS AS WELL.
YOU'RE ALWAYS WELCOME TO GO TO THE COUNCIL MEETING YOURSELVES OR WRITE LETTERS OR COMMUNICATE IN PERSON WITH YOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO LET THEM KNOW YOUR, YOUR, YOUR FEELINGS ON, ON MATTERS.
THAT DOESN'T GO AWAY JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE A COMMISSIONER.
YOU STILL HAVE RIGHTS OF, OF PRIVATE, UM, COMMUNITY MEMBERS AS, AS WELL.
SO THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT AVENUES THERE.
UM, IF YOU WANNA DO SOMETHING COLLECTIVELY, WE WILL GET THAT INTO THE PACKET IF YOU WANNA DO THINGS INDIVIDUALLY.
BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A, A PACKET TO LIKE A CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
SO THAT'S SORT OF NOT A WORK PLAN ITEM THEN BY DEFINITION.
LIKE WHAT? WELL, I MEAN, THE, PRESUMABLY YOUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO PROMOTE OR OPPOSE A SPECIFIC WORK PLAN ITEM.
SO IF, IF THE WORK PLAN ITEM, FOR EXAMPLE, IS THE GENERAL PLAN THING, UM, WHERE YOU'RE SUPPORTING THE HIGHER DENSITY AND THE CURRENT LAND USE MAPS, THAT WOULD BE A SPEC SPECIFIC LINE ITEM IN THERE THAT YOU'RE SAYING, HEY, WE WANT TO CALL A SPECIAL, SPECIAL ATTENTION TO THIS.
YOU GUYS ARE WORKING ON THE GENERAL PLAN.
IT'S GONNA BE DONE DONE BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
WE HOPE IN THAT PROCESS, YOU COUNSEL KEEP THAT DENSITY AT THE LEVEL THAT IT'S LISTED AT RIGHT NOW.
SO YOU ARE SAYING THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE SOME KIND OF CONSENSUS BE INCLUDED IN THE STAFF REPORT TO THE WORK PLAN ON THIS TOPIC? THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THIS DISCUSSION IS RIGHT NOW,
WELL, UM, I GUESS LET'S ALL MOLE ON THAT.
AND I'D LIKE TO REVISIT THAT MAYBE BEFORE THIS TOPIC HAS MOVED ON.
I FEEL LIKE I, YEAH, I JUST, JUST A ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
SO HOW DOES THIS WORK? WE'RE, WE'RE ALL GONNA TALK AND THEN AT THE END WE'RE GOING TO COME TOGETHER ON AGREEMENT ON WHAT ENDS UP IN THE WORK PLAN.
DO HAVE, I'M CERTAINLY STILL GETTING UP TO SPEED.
UM, BUT I HAVE REVIEWED THE BLUEPRINT, UM, FRAMEWORK DOCUMENT, AND I DON'T HAVE CONTEXT FOR MANY OF THE DETAILS, UH, INCLUDED IN HERE.
UH, BUT DID WANNA JUST EMPHASIZE HOW IMPORTANT THE MONITORING AND REPORTING ELEMENTS ARE.
UM, SO THAT'S THE MR ONE AND MR TWO PIECES, UM, BECAUSE THE VISION IS HERE IN THIS DOCUMENT.
UM, AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PRIORITIZING OPPORTUNITIES FOR ADAPTIVE MANAGEMENT, UM, AND MODIFYING OUR IMPLEMENTATION APPROACHES.
SO WE'RE FOCUSED ON OUTCOMES OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT FEW YEARS AS THESE, UM, ACTIVITIES UNRAVEL AND NOT REALLY FOCUSING ON LIKE A CHECKS CHECKBOX OF ACTIVITIES, BUT REALLY, UM, FOCUSING ON THOSE OUTCOMES.
AND SO IN THE FRAMEWORK, I KNOW THERE'S MENTION OF A DASHBOARD, UM, AND SO I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S AVAILABLE YET, UM, OR THE STATUS OF THAT.
UM, BUT I THINK IT'D BE GREAT IF THIS, UH, COMMISSION IN SOME FORM GOT, YOU KNOW, INTERIM PROGRESS REPORTS THAT COULD SHAPE THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE MADE TO THE COUNCIL.
YES, THIS HAS, UH, BEEN AN ONGOING CONVERSATION.
UH, AT THE MOMENT, WE ARE TRYING TO ALIGN OUR EFFORTS WITH THE COUNTY'S, THE SONOMA COUNTY TRANSPORTATION AND CLIMATE AUTHORITIES WHO IS WORKING WITH ILEY, WHO HAS CLEARVIEW AS THE CURRENT ITERATION TO DO, THEY DO ALL OF OUR GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS CALCULATION OR REPORTING, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO MATCH
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THE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS REPORTING WITH PROGRESS REPORTING AT THE SAME TIME.SO, UH, IT, WE HAD HOPED TO HAVE IT SOMETHING BY LAST NOVEMBER WHEN WE WERE AT ONE YEAR.
UH, IT'S GOTTEN A LITTLE SLOWER AS THE OLD ADAGE OF EVERYTHING THAT FREE IS NOT REALLY FREE, UH, ON THE CLEARVIEW ICKY DASH DASHBOARD, IT IS FREE IF YOU'RE AN ILEY MEMBER.
AND WE WERE ALL, ALL THE JURISDICTIONS WITHIN SONOMA COUNTY, WERE GONNA BE ABLE TO BE A PART OF THIS PILOT TO HAVE ALL OF OUR DATA ROLL UP TO THE COUNTY VERSION SO THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE 12 DIFFERENT DASHBOARDS REPORTED.
UM, ACTUALLY THAT'S NOT HOW MANY JURISDICTIONS WE HAVE INNO COUNTY FOR.
HOW MANY DO WE HAVE? I THINK SEVEN.
IS THAT EIGHT? 10, 10? OH, SEE, IT WAS CLOSE.
UH, 10 JURISDICTIONS CREATING 10 DIFFERENT DASHBOARDS.
AND SO THE, IT REALLY IS TRYING TO DO A COORDINATED EFFORT.
SO UNFORTUNATELY, WHAT THEY REALIZED IS THE OFFER FROM I WAS THE, THE ONE PART OF IT IS FREE, WHICH IS THE BACKEND, BUT THE PUBLIC FACING PART IS NOT.
UH, AND THAT WAS THE, THE PRICE TAG ON IT WAS INCREDIBLY, UH, EXPENSIVE.
UH, AND SO NOW WE'RE TRYING TO COME UP WITH OTHER WAYS TO DO THAT MORE PUBLIC FACING SO THAT IT MA IT'S A, IT'S A BEHIND THE SCENES AND A PUBLIC AT THE SAME TIME.
SO IT'S GOTTEN COMPLICATED, BUT IT IS STILL VERY MUCH GOING FORWARD TO BE, UH, FIGURED OUT BECAUSE IT IS EVERYONE'S GOAL TO BE ABLE TO HAVE VERY TRANSPARENT, UH, UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IS ACTUALLY LOWERING OUR GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS.
SO IN PROGRESS IS THE WORD THAT WE USE AT THE MOMENT.
UM, AND THEN, UH, WE DID REPORT ON THE CORNERSTONES TO THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION AS, UH, A WAY THAT WAS IN NOVEMBER.
THAT WOULD'VE BEEN AT THE NOVEMBER, I THINK IT WAS THE NOVEMBER MEETING, BUT I CAN SEND IT TO YOU DIRECTLY SO YOU CAN SEE.
AND IF YOU SAW A EXASPERATED LOOK FROM ME TO DEB ON THAT, THIS IS SUCH A THORN IN OUR SIDE, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON SO MUCH, AND IT FEELS LIKE EVERY TIME WE'RE ABOUT ON THE, THE
SO, UM, YEAH, DEFINITELY CONTINUE TO WORKING ON THAT AND YEAH, SHARE THE FRUSTRATION.
IT, IT SHOULD BE EASIER WITH EVERYBODY THAT'S TRACKING CLIMATE ISSUES.
UM, I JUST WANNA ADD THAT THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION ON THE WEBSITE ABOUT WHAT THE CITY'S DOING.
'CAUSE THE CITY IS DOING A LOT.
AND, AND SO IF YOU CAN, YOU CAN FIND IT ON THE WEBSITE,
AND THEN THE OTHER THING I WILL ADD JUST FOR, UH, YOU GUYS IS THAT APPS ARE NOW REALLY EASY TO WRITE.
IF YOU JUST KNOW WHAT THE, UM, 'CAUSE WE'RE DOING THIS IN MY BUSINESS RIGHT NOW, UM, WHERE WE'RE USING AI TO WRITE THE APPS, BECAUSE ALL YOU REALLY NEED TO DO IS KNOW WHAT YOU WANT AND THEN YOU CAN JUST IN LIKE ENGLISH, SAY, I WANT IT TO DO X, Y, Z, A, B, C, AND D.
AND THEN IT'LL CREATE THE THING FOR YOU.
SO, UM, CAN CONNECT YOU WITH THE PEOPLE WHO I'M WORKING WITH.
IF YOU WANT
I JUST WANTED TO, UH, JUST CONFIRM WHAT, UH, BRYN WAS SAYING, UM, ABOUT OUTCOMES VERSUS BOX CHECKING.
AND SO DASHBOARDS HAVE A TENDENCY OF CHECKING BOXES, UM, THAT MAY OR MAY NOT, UH, ACTUALLY CHANGE WHAT WE ACTUALLY DO.
SO, UH, I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE REFERRING TO THERE.
UM, SO I WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S THAT, THAT IT'S CLEAR THAT WHAT SHE'S ASKING FOR VERY CLEARLY UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT THAT'S WHERE YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS.
THAT'S WHAT, UH, THE COUNTY DOES CURRENTLY DO FOR US IS THAT GREENHOUSE GAS CALCULATIONS.
AND THEN WE WANNA OVERLAY IT FOR THE PUBLIC TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT PROGRESS IS.
SO IT IS, IT'S A, IT'S A YES AND ON BOTH IT'S PUBLIC EDUCATION ABOUT WHAT THINGS WE ARE DOING AND THE IMPACTS THAT IT'S HAVING.
AND SOME OF THAT IS STRAIGHT, YOU'LL HEAR MORE LATER WHEN WE DO OUR ROUND TABLE UPGRADE, LIKE IT'S STORYTELLING, IT IS DOING GIS MAPPING THAT SHOWS WHERE WE'RE PUTTING IN ALL OF OUR TREES AND OUR EV CHARGING, LIKE THAT'S WHY IT'S, IT'S NOT A SIMPLE ANSWER.
IF IT WAS SIMPLE, WE WOULDN'T BE IN THIS CLIMATE CRISIS, AS WE ALL KNOW.
BUT, UH, THAT, THAT INTERFACE OF THE REAL DATA MATCHED WITH THE PUBLIC INTERFACE OF WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING IS NOT A SIMPLE ANSWER.
AND SO IT IS BOTH, AND IT DOES RE IT, WE HAVE A BLUEPRINT WITH 456 ACTIONS.
SO SOME OF IT IS ACTUAL GOOD OLD FASHIONED CHECK BOXING BECAUSE WE NEED TO SAY WE ARE DOING STUFF.
SO, AND YOU'RE, I MEAN, AND THE CITIES ACTUALLY HAS ACCOMPLISHED THINGS.
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YES.BUT I, I MEAN, AT A CERTAIN POINT, EVEN IF IT'S NOT PERFECT, IT WOULD BE NICE TO JUST SEE IT, EVEN IF IT'S LIKE PRETTY LOW RES, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THAT IS THAT TO, BUT THAT'S THE, THE, IT IS THE PART THAT WE ARE, WE ARE TRYING TO DO A COORDINATED EFFORT.
WE DON'T WANNA HAVE 10 DIFFERENT DASHBOARDS.
SO WE DON'T HAVE AN IT AT THIS MOMENT BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TOTALLY UNDERST COORDINATE IT AT A COUNTY LEVEL.
I JUST MEANT LIKE THERE'S A GOOD STORY TO TELL.
AND IT IS NOT, DOES NOT EXIST ON, ON LIKE, ON A, ON THE CITY WEBSITE OF LIKE, DO THIS ACTION, DO THIS COURSE, SHORT ACTION CHECK, DO THIS COURSE, SHORT ACTION, WORKING ON IT, DOING THIS.
LIKE IT COULD, I THINK IT DOES EXIST.
THE, THE ACTUAL SPREADSHEET EXCEL SPREADSHEET IS NOT ON THE WEBSITE.
WE, WE HAVE TALKED WITH THE COUNTY ABOUT DOING SOMETHING SIMILAR LIKE THAT IT COMES DOWN TO THAT IS NOT GONNA MOTIVATE OR EDUCATE PEOPLE ON WHAT IS, BUT THE WEBSITE DOES HAVE.
AND IF YOU, WE CAN, I WILL SHOW YOU IT UNDER STAFF COMMENTS, WHAT IS CURRENTLY UP THERE.
I, I EXCUSE MY IGNORANCE, I DIDN'T KNOW EITHER UNTIL I DID, SO
UH, AND AGAIN, I'M THE NEW GUY HERE, SO PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CORRECT ME AT ANY POINT.
UM, I, I KNOW WE'RE NOT, UH, YOU'RE ASKING FOR A COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION.
UM, GOING BACK TO THE COMMENTS OF EV CHARGING, IT HAS A DEFINITIVE DATE OF BY 2027.
UM, AND I WANNA BE CAREFUL ABOUT HOW I PHRASE THIS, BUT IF, IF, IF IT COULD BE A RECOMMENDATION, IT'S, THIS IS AN ONGOING THING BECAUSE IN THE PACKET THAT YOU GAVE US, IT TALKS ABOUT FEDERAL FUNDING FOR, UM,
THEY'RE KIND OF ALL OVER THE PLACE RIGHT NOW, SO, SO IT'S HARD TO PUT A DEFINITIVE DATE FOR THAT SPECIFIC GOAL.
UM, AND I, I WOULD JUST LIKE A CONSENSUS OR IF WE COULD TALK ABOUT THAT, UH, TOGETHER, UH, GENERAL PLAN UPDATE AND ZONING CODE REVISIONS, UM, I THINK THAT'S A LIFT LARGELY FROM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
UM, SO I, I JUST WANT TO JUST PUT THAT OUT THERE.
AND CITY ASSET AND FACILITIES MANAGEMENT, IT HAS A 2028 DEADLINE.
I FEEL LIKE THAT SHOULD BE ACCELERATED TO 2027.
UM, AND AGAIN, I'M NOT TRYING TO CHANGE THE BLUEPRINT HERE, BUT IF YOU GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO ELEVATE, UM, ANYTHING AND SORT OF THE CONTEXT FOR THAT.
IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, WE HAVE A PROGRAM CALLED THREE C REN.
AND BASICALLY WHAT THEY DID IS A ANALYSIS OF CITY FACILITIES TO SEE WHAT IS IT THAT X CITY PETALUMA CAN DO TO, UM, WHAT THEY CAN, IM IMPLEMENT NOW TO START HAVING COST SAVING MEASURES FOR, UH, EV AND, AND THAT OF THE SORT.
UM, AND IF THAT OPPORTUNITY WERE TO COME UP IN 2027, I, I THINK IT COULD BE AN ACCELERATED WAY TO, UH, TAKE CARE OF F TRIPLE E DASH TWO CITY ASSET AND FACILITIES MANAGEMENT AND, UH, WHICH TALKS ABOUT INCLUDING FACILITY AUDITS AND ELECTRIFICATION.
UM, SO I WOULDN'T WANNA MISS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT IF THE OPPORTUNITY CAME AROUND IN 2027 BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN THE BLUEPRINT.
AND THEN I HAVE ONE MORE ON THE SIDE OF, UH, GRANT MANAGEMENT.
I KNOW THAT, AND I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN THIS, BUT I UNDERSTAND THE BIG TREND GOING ON RIGHT NOW IS THE, UH, SB ONE GRANT.
AND THERE'S NO WORD ON IF THERE'S GONNA BE A THIRD CYCLE.
WE'RE JUST ASSUMING THAT THERE MIGHT BE, AND IF THERE'S A WAY TO SORT OF ELEVATE THAT, THAT THAT'S GONNA TAKE, IF, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THE CITY'S GONNA CONSIDER, UH, OR IF IT'S GONNA BE A COUNTYWIDE EFFORT, THAT THERE IS GONNA BE STAFF RESOURCES PUT TOWARDS THAT.
AND I JUST WANNA, UH, ON THE SIDE OF, OF GRANT EFFORTS, 'CAUSE IT'S ON THE 2026 GOALS, THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO PUT BECAUSE IT IS A LOT OF WORK FOR THE PETALUMA STAFF, AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S, UH, IF WE HAVE B UPLIFT SOMETHING THAT WE RECOGNIZE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TOWARDS IT.
SO I, I KNOW I JUST KIND OF BLURTED OUT EVERYTHING, BUT, UH, JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE AND SEEING WHAT STICKS WITH THE COMMISSION AND WE CAN, UH, DISCUSS IT LATER.
UM, AND THEN MY LAST THING IS,
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UM, IF STAFF WOULD LIKE THE COMMISSION SUPPORT FOR ANY 2026 GOALS THAT WEREN'T ACCOMPLISHED, AND WE CAN SAY THAT THAT'S OKAY.UM, AND WE CAN ACKNOWLEDGE THAT.
I, I THINK THAT WOULD BE, UM, PLEASE LET US KNOW IF WE CAN SUPPORT YOU IN ANY WAY TO SAYING THAT.
UM, MAYBE IT DOES GET MOVED FOR ANOTHER YEAR, BUT, UH, YOU HAVE OUR SUPPORT IN THAT.
SO, UH, THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.
UM, DOES STAFF WANNA COMMENT ON SUPPORT ITEMS RIGHT NOW, OR WAIT TILL STAFF COMMENT? I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANYTHING RIGHT AT THIS POINT.
I NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
WELL, CAN I COMMENT ON THE CITY FACILITIES PIECE? YOU KNOW, SO, UM, THERE WAS LIKE A BUILDINGS AD HOC AT ONE POINT.
UM, RIGHT NOW I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A VERY NARROWLY FOCUSED WORKING GROUP ON THE RESULTS OF THE, UM, CITY FACILITIES ENERGY AUDIT.
YOU KNOW, PATRICK, THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH ME THERE.
I MEAN, WE, UH, HAVE, UH, LED RETRO RETROFIT OPPORTUNITY HERE IN THIS ROOM, YOU KNOW, AND THOSE ARE HUGELY COST EFFECTIVE, UM, BUT REQUIRE, YOU KNOW, ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION WORK.
UM, BUT I DO THINK THERE IS A REALISTIC OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOME LIMITED ENERGY RETROFIT WORK.
UM, AT LEAST KICKED OFF THIS YEAR.
UM, YOU KNOW, I WAS GOING TO SAVE THIS FOR COM MEMBER COMMENT, BUT THE CITY SCHOOLS IS NOW, UH, ACTIVELY IMPLEMENTING THEIR, UM, ENERGY CONSERVATION MEASURE, UH, WORK.
SO THERE'S STILL SOME MORE WORK TO BE DONE THERE, BUT I DO THINK THE CITY HAS ENOUGH INFORMATION NOW TO ACT ON SOME LIMITED FACILITY RETROFIT WORK.
SO, UM, WE CAN TALK ABOUT, I DON'T WANT TO CREATE ANOTHER AD HOC FOR THAT, BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, A, UH, A SMALL WORKING GROUP TO FURTHER THAT WORK IS A, A REALISTIC OPPORTUNITY.
UM, SINCE THERE WAS A FEW THINGS I WAS GONNA TALK ABOUT IS, UH, AT THE END OF HIS COMMENT, BUT I THINK IT IS RELATED TO THIS, UH, TOPIC OF, UH, WHAT TO EMPHASIZE.
AND THERE'S A COUPLE AREAS THAT WE MAY THINK ABOUT, UM, EMPHASIZING NOW COMPARED TO LATER.
UM, ONE OF 'EM IS ON THE, UM, UH, SEA LEVEL RISE.
UM, SO I'VE BEEN TO A COUPLE MEETINGS THERE TALKING ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING, BUT, UH, SINCE WE'RE WORKING, UH, THE STAFF IS ALREADY WORKING WITH, UM, THE, UH, CORPS OF ENGINEERS TO, UH, PUT THEIR SEDIMENT STUDY FROM THE ADOBE CREEK, UH, AND THAT IF WE CONTINUE THAT PILOT PROJECT SO THAT WE START WORKING ON OUR SEA LEVEL RISE ADAPTATIONS, UH, WITH OUR DREDGE MATERIALS, UM, FOR WHERE THAT NEEDS TO GO.
SO, UM, I KNOW IT'S IN PROGRESS, BUT WE COULD EMPHASIZE IT A LITTLE BIT SAYING, UM, KEEP WORKING ON SEA LEVEL RISE OVER THE NEXT 50 YEARS, BUT WE NEED TO START NOW RATHER THAN WAIT 10 YEARS TO REALLY GET MOVING ON AUDIT.
SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT, UH, CAME OUT FROM A COUPLE MEETINGS.
UH, ANOTHER ONE, UM, I DID GO DOWN TO PG E SAN RAMON AND TALK TO THE PG E THE ACTUAL RESEARCH THAT'S HAPPENING DOWN THERE FOR SAFETY AND ALSO THEIR HAZARDS CENTER.
AND, UH, WE GOT A LOT OF, UH, A LOT OF DISCUSSION DOWN THERE.
WHILE I WAS THERE, I, OF COURSE, I ASKED MY USUAL QUESTIONS AND, UM, AND I TALKED ABOUT LOCAL DISTRIBUTION NETWORKS.
SO HOW THE CITY CAN WORK WITH PG E TO ENHANCE OUR LOCAL DISTRIBUTION NETWORKS SO THAT WE CAN, UH, HAVE, UH, MORE POWER GOING TO MORE HOMES FOR ELECTRIFICATION.
THERE IS A WHOLE DECARBONIZATION MOVEMENT OF TRYING TO DO THAT.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO PUSH THAT UP A LITTLE BIT AND, AND WORK WITH PG E AS A PARTNER TO GET OUR CITY TO, UH, UH, SHIFT OVER INTO ELECTRIFICATION.
IT'S GONNA NEED A DISTRIBUTION NETWORK.
LOCAL DISTRIBUTION NEEDS TO BE ENHANCED.
UM, SO WE NEED TO WORK ON THAT.
UH, INCLUDED IN THAT WAS THE, UH, DISCUSSION ON BIDIRECTIONAL THAT PG E UH, IS DOING A LOT OF WORK ON HOW TO, UH, MANAGE A BI-DIRECTIONAL SYSTEM WHERE THE CARS AND, AND WALLS, UM, UH, BATTERIES ARE, UM, NOW FEEDING INTO THE SYSTEM AND HOW TO MANAGE THAT.
IT'S, IT JUST REALLY COMPLICATES THEIR, THEIR CONTROL SYSTEMS. UM, BUT WE, AGAIN, IT'S SOMETHING THAT DOES THIS, CAN THE CITY WORK WITH PG E TO ENHANCE BOTH FOR ELECTRIFICATION, FOR, FOR THE DECARBONIZATION MOVEMENT AND FOR, UH, BIDIRECTIONAL, UM, UM, ENERGY SO THAT THE SOLAR PANELS ARE GOING IN, BATTERIES ARE GOING IN, ESPECIALLY IN, IN SHUTDOWNS.
UM, AND THEN WORKING ON, UH, THE WHOLE ELECTRICAL, UH, MICROGRID SIT
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POSSIBILITIES SO THAT THERE'S A WHOLE AREA THERE TO BE WORKED ON ON THAT END.UM, AND THEN IN THE, THEN EVEN IN THE HOUSING AREA.
BUT, UH, UM, ANOTHER, I WENT TO THE GEN H MEETINGS AND ALSO THERE'S GONNA BE AN A DU, UM, TOUR COMING UP.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THE CITY COULD DO TO HELP PUSH ADUS FURTHER DOWN THE LINE, UM, IS OPEN THE DOOR A LITTLE BIT MORE.
I KNOW WE'RE WORKING WITH, WITH, UH, THE, THE A DU CENTER.
UM, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WE DON'T DO THAT OTHER CITIES ARE STARTING TO DO, UH, WHICH IS NOW ALLOWED BY STATE, IS TO CHANGE THE REGULATIONS, TO ALLOW, BASICALLY IT BECOMES AN HOA CONDOMINIUM SITUATION AND CITIES ARE ALLOWED TO DO THAT.
AND SO WE ARE UP IN LINE FOR A POSSIBILITY.
SO WE JUST HAVE TO FOLLOW THE PATTERN.
CITY'S ALREADY DOING, THE SAN JOSE I THINK HAS ALREADY DONE IT.
SEBASTOPOL HAS DONE IT, BUT IT'S USING THE CURRENT STATE LAWS TO ALLOW HOAS SO THAT WE CAN DEVELOP AND PUSH THE WHOLE A-D-A-A-D-U CONCEPT AND PUSH IT FORWARD.
UM, UH, WHICH WOULD, AND, AND ALSO IF WE COULD GET SOME MORE, UM, I KNOW THERE'S GONNA BE MORE ABOUT, UM, MANUFACTURED HOMES, HOW TO GET THOSE BACK IN PLACE.
SO JUST MOVING THAT FORWARD AND, AND, AND EMPHASIZING THAT, YES, WE WANNA PUSH A DU CONSTRUCTION.
THAT'S THE, UH, FROM WHAT GEN H IS SAYING, UH, FROM THE DATA, THAT'S PROBABLY OUR FASTEST, EASIEST, LOWEST COST WAY OF INCREASING INFILL CAPACITY IN THIS TOWN.
AND IN FACT, THE FIRE TOWN COUNTY.
SO WE CAN EMPHASIZE THAT AS, AS ANOTHER INCREASE OUR HOUSING BY THE, THE INFILL, ESPECIALLY THE ADUS WORKING WITH, WITH, UH, UM, UH, THE VARIOUS THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING AT THE STATE AND IN COUNTY LEVEL.
SO THOSE ARE THINGS WE CAN ADD TO, UM, WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SAY, LIKE PUSH UP FORWARD AS, AS WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY CHANGE THINGS, MAKE ACTUAL REAL CHANGE AND, AND THAT, UM, AND JUST GETTING A NUMBER OF, AND ONE OF THE DATAS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE FOR HOW MANY CARS DO WE HAVE ON THE ROAD? CAN WE GET A REDUCTION IN THE NUMBER OF, UH, INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINES THAT ARE ON OUR ROADS, NUMBER OF MILES TRAVELED? SO THAT'S THE TYPE OF DATA I, I'D BE LOOKING FOR TO SAYING, OKAY, UH, IF WE WANNA DO THAT DATA COLLECT, IF THAT'S OUR NUMBER ONE, WE BETTER HAVE SOME REAL DATA ON HOW MUCH GAS IS BEING USED.
UH, EVEN IF, UH, WHO'S FILLING UP IN GAS HERE, UH, GAS STATIONS, DATA COLLECTION ON, UH, OUR, HOW MUCH GAS IS BEING USED, THAT THAT'D BE JUST ONE OF THE DATA POINTS THAT WE NEED TO EMPHASIZE IF WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY HAVE REAL RESULTS.
SO THOSE ARE JUST IDEAS THAT ARE POPPING INTO MY HEAD AS FAR AS, UM, I HAVE THE SAME, I HAVE THE SAME QUESTION ON THE GAS USAGE AND LIKE GAS.
DO WE HAVE DATA ON THAT? HOW MUCH GAS IS SOLD OR HOW MUCH GAS TAXES WE RECEIVE AS A PROXY FOR GAS SALES? DO WE, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT, BUT THERE'S TAXES ON THOSE, SO THEY'RE BEING COLLECTED, AND I, I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT'S COMING FROM.
SO SOMEBODY IN THE STATE KNOWS THAT UHHUH
SO I BELIEVE THE GAS TAXES ARE, UM, HANDLED THROUGH S-C-T-C-A, SO THEY MAY KNOW THAT INFORMATION AND THEY MAY KNOW IT BY, UM, JURISDICTION.
BUT THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING I'D NEED TO LOOK IN A LITTLE BIT TOO MUCH.
I DID HAVE THAT SAME THOUGHT THOUGH.
LIKE IF WITH THE DASHBOARD THING, I TOTALLY GET, YOU KNOW, IF THERE WAS ONE DATA POINT AND IT WAS GASOLINE SALES IN OUR TOWN, THAT'S PROBABLY THE NUMBER ONE DATA POINT I WOULD LOOK TOWARDS.
SO YEAH, THE OTHER DATA POINT IS THE DMV HAS, UH, CARS AND ALL THE CARS ARE EITHER GONNA BE, UH, INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINES OR HYBRIDS, EVERYTHING.
SO THE, THE CALIFORNIA HAS THAT FOR EVERY SINGLE HOUSEHOLD.
WE COULD ACTUALLY JUST COLLECTED FOUR PETALUMA AND SAY, OKAY, HERE, HERE'S THE ACTUAL STRUCTURE.
OUR IN INFRASTRUCTURE HERE OF PERSONAL OWNERSHIP OF VEHICLES, IS THIS, IF WE JUST HAVE THAT AS A NUMBER AND CAN THAT NUMBER ACTUALLY SHIFT OVER TIME? SO THAT'S ONE OF OUR CRITICAL NUMBERS.
WE REALLY NEED TO HANG IN THERE, UH, AND BE IMPORTANT THAT WE ACTUALLY COLLECT.
SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD RECOMMEND.
AND I, I HAD ANOTHER QUESTION OFF OF COUNCIL MEMBER SRI'S, UH, DISCUSSION RELATED TO, HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE PG E GRID INFRASTRUCTURE DISTRIBUTION NETWORK.
SO, UM, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THE GAS, LIKE THE GAS PRUNING OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU GUYS HAD WORKED ON.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TIED TO A WORK PLAN OR IF IT COULD BE TIED TO A WORK PLAN AND UPLIFTED, OR IF THAT'S LIKE PART OF THE GRANT WORK PLAN, I GUESS.
BUT THAT'S, IF YOU COULD, THAT'S A QUESTION.
UM, DEB AND I, AND I THINK AMY WAS THERE TOO, UM, TRIED, TRIED, UH, A BUNCH OF US WENT TO PG E'S FIRST, UM, WORKSHOP ON, IT'S, IT'S SP 1221, IT'S THE NEIGHBORHOOD DECARBONIZATION.
UH, THAT WAS ACTUALLY A SUPER FRUSTRATING
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PROCESS.UH, AND IT ENDED UP JUST BEING FOR THE FOLKS THAT ACTUALLY GOT INTO THE MEETING.
SOME OF US WERE THERE JUST AS VIEWERS, WE COULDN'T ADD COMMENTS, WE COULDN'T RAISE OUR HAND, COULDN'T ASK QUESTIONS.
SOME MAGICAL NUMBER OF FOLKS COULD.
AND IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYBODY THAT WAS TRYING TO SELL A PRODUCT OR OR SERVICE WAS THE ONES THAT ACTUALLY GOT TO SPEAK OR ASK QUESTIONS DURING THAT MEETING.
SO IT FELT MORE OF A, IT FELT LIKE A TIMESHARE, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU GET STUCK IN A MEETING, YOU THINK YOU'RE GETTING A FREE BREAKFAST AND IT'S GONNA BE GREAT, BUT YOU END UP LIKE WISHING FOR THAT HOUR BACK.
BUT, UM, VERY NEW, VERY LITTLE NEW INFORMATION CAME OUT OF THAT.
UM, ESSENTIALLY FOR THE ZONES THAT ARE SELECTED, AND I BELIEVE THERE'S TWO OR THREE IN PETALUMA, THAT THREE THAT WERE ACTUALLY SELECTED, IT'S WHERE PG E HAS AGING INFRASTRUCTURE.
THEY'RE GOING TO FOR, FOR GAS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GAS RIGHT NOW.
UM, THEY HAVE AGING INFRASTRUCTURE.
IT'S GONNA NEED REPLACEMENT IN THE NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE.
AND FOR THEM, IT MIGHT BE CHEAPER TO PAY A MILLION DOLLARS TO THE 40 PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THAT, THAT ARE BEING SERVED BY THAT LINE THAN TO SPEND THREE OR $4 MILLION TO UPGRADE THAT LINE.
UM, SO WE HAVE THREE OF THOSE, UM, CENSUS BLOCKS WITHIN PETALUMA THAT ARE, THAT MEET THAT CRITERIA.
AND BECAUSE WE APPLIED FOR THAT, DEB AND I APPLIED FOR THAT CITYWIDE, UM, WE GOT ON THE SHORT LIST.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE IN SONOMA COUNTY THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THAT.
SO WE'RE THE ONLY ONES IN SONOMA COUNTY THAT ARE, THAT ARE, THAT KIND OF MADE IT TO THIS FIRST LEVEL.
IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY MIGHT OPEN THAT BACK UP.
SO THE OTHER CENSUS BLOCKS OTHER CITIES COULD, COULD APPLY FOR THAT.
AND I FEEL LIKE IT'S GOING TO, THAT PROCESS IS GONNA DRAG ON FOR THE END OF THE YEAR.
BUT FOR THOSE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE SELECTED TO KIND OF TAKE THAT NEXT STEP AND DO THAT OUTREACH TO THE COMMUNITY AND SAY, HERE'S THE BENEFITS OF ELECTRIFICATION AND HERE'S LIKE THE, YOU KNOW, BENEFITS OF INVESTING MORE MONEY IN FOSSIL FUEL INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE NEXT 30 YEARS.
UM, AND ULTIMATELY 66%, TWO THIRDS OF THAT, THAT GROUP, THAT CENSUS BLOCK, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF IFFY.
IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, PLUS OR MINUS A LITTLE BIT OF THAT CENSUS BLOCK, BUT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WITHIN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD DECARBONIZATION, IT WOULD REQUIRE TWO THIRDS OF THEM TO VOTE AFFIRMATIVELY ON THAT, WHICH IS A TALL ASK.
SO IT, THAT'S WHY THEY'RE REALLY INTERESTED IN, UM, GROUPS THAT CAN DO THAT DEEP OUTREACH AND, AND COMMUNITIES THAT REALLY EMPHASIZE CLIMATE ACTION AS A STRONG PRIORITY FOR THEM.
UM, AND ALSO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE INCENTIVES WILL BE.
THERE'S SOME DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT COMES WITH IT, BUT EVEN PG E AND PRIVATE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD WITH THEM HAS, THEY'VE NOT COME UP WITH THAT NUMBER.
THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'LL BE.
AND I THINK ULTIMATELY THAT'S REGULATED BY THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC UTILITIES, UM, COMMISSION, HOW MUCH THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT WILL BE.
SO WE ARE DEFINITELY TRACKING THAT.
UM, I THINK DEB AND I ARE GONNA MAKE TIME TO FIGURE THAT OUT BECAUSE THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT'S THE KIND OF COMMUNITY-WIDE ACTION THAT WE NEED TO DO IF WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA MEET THOSE, THOSE BIG GOALS.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S BUILDINGS, THAT'S EXISTING BUILDINGS, UM, WHICH, YOU KNOW, ENERGY CODES AND, AND BUILDING CODES AND, AND STANDARDS CAN TALK ABOUT NEW CONSTRUCTION, BUT MOST OF THE BUILDINGS OUT THERE ARE ALREADY BUILT.
AND A LOT OF THOSE ARE STILL, MOST OF THEM ARE STILL USING GAS.
SO THAT'S THE KIND OF
SO WE, THAT'S A HUGE PRIORITY FOR STAFF.
UM, BUT NOT QUITE A WORK PLAN ITEM TO BE UPLIFTED, I GUESS IS, YEAH, I MEAN, MORE AWARENESS ON THAT WOULD WOULDN'T HURT.
UM, BUT YEAH, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE, WE THINK IS ONE OF OUR BEST CHANCES TO GET SOME SERIOUS MOVING THE NEEDLE ON THAT.
ANOTHER POINT OF VIEW, ESPECIALLY FOR THE NEW FOLKS WITH US, UH, NOW, UM, WITH THE, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS SUING US, PARTICULARLY THE CITY OF PETALUMA AND MORGAN CITY.
THEY PICKED US TWO OUTTA THE WHOLE US.
THEY PICKED US, UH, AND THEY'RE SUING US FOR, UH, OF TRYING TO PUSH A HUNDRED PERCENT ELECTRIFICATION ON NEW DEVELOPMENT.
UM, SO THAT'S JUST THROWING A, A KINK IN THE WORKS RIGHT NOW AS, AS IN THE MOVEMENT.
SO JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE OF, OF THAT, THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING AND THAT, SO OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT IS WORKING ON THAT FURIOUSLY RIGHT NOW.
'CAUSE IT'S HARD TO TAKE ON THE, THE WHOLE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT RIGHT NOW, UM, ON THAT, UH, IN THIS LEGAL CASE.
SO THAT'S JUST A, A ANOTHER FACTOR PART OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER ITEMS YOU'D LIKE TO ADD? ADD? OKAY, DAN, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A, A WORK PLAN, UH, ITEM,
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BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE US, UM, PICK UP AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE, UH, THE FOOD WASTE ORDINANCE THAT WE PUT SO MUCH TIME AND ENERGY INTO LAST YEAR.AND THEN I WILL JUST ADD, UM, THAT I THINK, UH, I WOULD LOVE IT IF THE BO THE BODY OF THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION WOULD, UM, BE IN SUPPORT OF THE TRANSIT PLAN.
UM, I WAS ABLE TO GO TO THE, TRYING TO THINK, REMEMBER.
WELL ANYWAYS, SO THE TRANSIT PLAN IS TO, IS TO, UM, HAVE MORE, IT HAS A LOT OF THINGS IN IT, BUT LIKE TO HAVE MORE BIKE LANES, BETTER BIKE LANES.
A TP WHAT? THE A TP, THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION.
UM, AND THEN, UM, ADDITIONALLY, UM, PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IN PETALUMA IS STRUGGLING.
RIGHT? WE'RE HAVING, ISN'T THAT PART OF WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW? LIKE, UH, THERE WAS MONEY FOR, AND THAT'S GOING AWAY FOR THE LUMA GO AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I'M, FOR SOME REASON MY EARS AREN'T PROCESSING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
IT'S 'CAUSE I WAS NOT SPEAKING CLEARLY.
UM, YEAH, I MEAN I, THAT'S, THAT GOES ALONG WITH ALL THE, THERE'S, YEAH, THERE'S CUTS THAT ARE COMING ACROSS THE BOARD AND UH, YEAH, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFICULT CHOICES TO BE MADE.
SO IF THERE'S THINGS YOU WANT TO UPLIFT.
ONE IS THE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, UM, SUPPORTING PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IN PETALUMA.
AND THEN THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN, WHICH WAS SORT TO ME LIKE BOTH KIND OF IN THE SAME, IT'S LIKE ALL PART OF TRYING TO REDUCE OUR CARBON FOOTPRINT, UM, FROM GAS BURNERS.
UM, AND THEN THE OTHER THING THAT WE ALL RECEIVE, I THINK WE ALL RECEIVED, UM, SOME EMAILS ABOUT IS THE TREE PLAN.
UM, I WOULD LIKE THE, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE COMMISSION SUPPORT THE, THE TREE PLAN THAT'S TRYING TO REPLACE A 30-YEAR-OLD PLAN THAT DOESN'T, DOESN'T QUITE DO WHAT WE NEED IT TO DO FOR OUR BLUEPRINT, UM, ACTIONS.
SO NOW WE HAVE A THROUGH P THAT WE CAN SORT THROUGH OF IDEAS THAT WE WANNA BE LIFTING UP FOR, UM, THE COUNCIL AND, UM, SHOULD I LIST THEM? AND WE CAN SORT OF CHOOSE SOME NUMBER TO SAY, THIS IS WHAT, YOU KNOW, AND I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT, UM, AS INDIVIDUALS, WE ALSO HAVE A VOICE AND ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO USE OUR VOICES LIKE AT THESE MEETINGS.
'CAUSE I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS WE CAN DO.
UM, WHAT WERE YOU SAYING? NO, SHOULD I LIST THEM? I, I DO THINK WE PROBABLY WANNA HONE IN ON A NUMBER.
MAYBE LIKE, YOU KNOW, 25 IS PROBABLY TOO MUCH
LIKE, IS THAT, IS THAT ASKING TOO? IS THAT TOO CRAZY? I DON'T THINK THAT'S TOO CRAZY.
BECAUSE THE CITY COUNCIL CAN REALLY TAKE ON ALL THAT.
BECAUSE THEY DO NEED, YOU KNOW, THERE'S LIMITED NUMBER OF PEOPLE.
AND SO WHAT ARE WE RECOMMENDING AS A, AS A BODY TO, TO LIKE, TO FOCUS ON? CAN WE, SO WE GOT, MAKE SURE WE SEE THEM ON, CAN WE SEE 'EM ON SCREEN? 'CAUSE I DON'T HAVE A LIST IN FRONT OF ME.
CAN I, CAN I, UH, SEND YOU THE LIST THAT I JUST MADE AND, OR PATRICK.
I SHOULD PROBABLY TAKE MY, UH, WELL, WHILE WE'RE WORKING ON THAT, UH, THE TRANSIT PLAN, RIGHT THERE IS TWO DIFFERENT PLANS WITH THE WORD TRANSIT IN IT, I GUESS THE TRANSIT PLAN.
SO ON TUESDAY IN WHATEVER MANY DAYS THAT IS, THAT IS THE FINAL VOTE ON THE TRANSIT PLAN, WHICH IS A PLAN TO CUT THINGS.
SO THE CURRENT PLAN INCLUDES ELIMINATING LUMA GO AFTER THE GRANT RUNS OUT.
SO IT STILL WILL CONTINUE FOR A YEAR AND A HALF POSSIBLY, BUT THEN IS GOING TO GET CUT AND IS ONE OF THE LARGER BUDGET ITEMS TO CLOSE A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR GAP.
AND SO THAT IS VERY CERTAINLY GOING TO, UM, GET CUT.
UH, AND THEN ADDITIONALLY CUTS INCLUDE, UM, LIKE SUNDAY SERVICE IS GETTING CUT AND THEN EVENING SERVICE IS GETTING CUT.
UH, AND THEN, UH, A COUPLE OF THE ROUTES ARE GETTING PAIRED BACK.
UH, AND SO THAT IS GETTING VOTED ON.
UM, THERE ISN'T MUCH OPPORTUNITY TO MODIFY THAT OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE DID HAVE SOME CREATIVE IDEAS FOR INTER YEAR SHIFTING.
UM, WHAT'S UNFORTUNATE IS THE MASCOTS PLAN IS ROLLING OUT SIMULTANEOUSLY.
THE MASCOTS PLAN IS THE MARIN SONOMA COORDINATED PLAN.
THAT'S WHERE THE GOLDEN GATE TRANSIT BUSES ARE GOING AWAY, UH, IN FAVOR OF EXPANDED SERVICE FOR SMART.
AND SO THE SMART TRAIN WILL RUN MORE FREQUENTLY AND LATER INTO THE EVENING.
UH, BUT THEN THOSE PEOPLE WILL NOT HAVE THE CITY ROUTES TO GET THEM ALL
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OF THE WAY, UH, THE LAST MILE TYPE THING.BUT THAT IS THE TRANSIT PLAN THAT IS BEING DISCUSSED ON TUESDAY.
AND THE OTHER THING THAT'S HAPPENING ON NEXT, THIS COMING MONDAY AT CITY COUNCIL IS THE, UM, THE TREE ORDINANCE IS BEING, UH, DISCUSSED, WHICH IS RELATED TO OUR URBAN FORESTRY MANAGEMENT PLAN, WHICH IS IN DEVELOPMENT.
AND SO THE ORDINANCE IS THERE, SO THAT IS IN THE WORK.
SO JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE, UH, WE ARE, UM, THAT'S A HUGE EFFORT AND LOOKS LIKE IT'S GONNA BE A VERY POSITIVE THING THAT COMES OUT.
AND ONCE WE HAVE THE ORDINANCES IN PLACE, WE'LL HAVE THE URBAN FORESTRY MANAGEMENT PLANT WILL COME IN PLACE AND THAT IS MOVING FORWARD.
SO, UM, BUT WE CAN SUPPORT THAT IF, AS I, IF YOU SO WISH.
I I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, IF, IF YOU PUT THAT IN YOUR TOP 10, UM, THAT'S HAPPENING NEXT MONDAY.
SO
OR, UH, YOU'LL FEEL LIKE YOU'RE CHEATED OUT OF ONE OF YOUR, UH, PRIORITIES BECAUSE IT'S HAPPENING IN ADVANCE OF WHEN COUNCIL GOES, UH, TO DISCUSS ITS OTHER GOALS AND PRIORITIES.
WHICH ONE'S HAPPENING ON MONDAY? UH, BOTH THE, THE TREE, THIS WAS GONNA BE IN MY STAFF COMMENTS.
THE TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE AND THE, UM, URBAN FOREST MANAGEMENT PLAN ARE BOTH HAPPENING ON MONDAY.
HEY PATRICK, CAN YOU MAKE THAT LARGER? I, I'M TRYING THE, THE BULLETS THAT GOT COPIED OVER.
SO I'M, I'M TRYING TO PUT THAT INTO A WORD DOCUMENT AND UH, LET ME SEE IF I CAN GET RID OF ALL THE OTHER STUFF SO I CAN JUST SHARE THIS DOCUMENT WITH YOU.
SO I'LL JUST SEND YOU THE LINK.
I'LL, I'LL TRY, I'LL SWITCH IT OVER TO A DIFFERENT VIEW.
UM, TRIPLE NI LIKE THE SHENANIGANS
I KNOW, I WAS THINKING, I HAVE SOME NOTES IN THERE, BUT I THINK, I THINK THAT NEEDS TO GO IN, IN THE RECOMMENDATION COUNCIL.
I THINK I JUST SENT THAT TO DEB ACCIDENTALLY THERE.
NOW IT'S TO YOU PATRICK, BUT YOU'RE GONNA SEE MY HIGHLIGHTS AND STUFF.
UM, OKAY, SO THE TREE PLAN, I'M GONNA TAKE THAT ONE OFF THE TABLE, BUT I'M GONNA ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO GO TO THE MEETING AND SUPPORT IT 'CAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S ALREADY HAPPENING.
UM, THAT'S SO WEIRD HOW THAT HAPPENED.
WHAT ELSE YOU GOT? OH YEAH, THAT'S DEFINITELY WHAT IT IS.
UM, SO I GUESS WHILE PATRICK IS MESSING WITH FORMATTING, I CAN JUST START, I CAN, WE CAN KIND OF TIP TAG THROUGH 'EM.
SO MICRO MOBILITY WAS ONE AND E-BIKES.
I KIND OF FEEL LIKE THOSE TWO ARE SIMILAR AND EV CHARGING STATIONS AND ALL OF THESE ARE KIND OF UNDER ACTIVE OR LIKE, UM, ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION AND CLEAN TRANSIT, UM, GRANT MAKING.
SO FOCUS MORE ON LIKE MONEY, GETTING MONEY, UM, OH, ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION'S ON THERE TWICE.
UM, AND THE EV UM, PUBLICIZING THE EVS LIKE COMMUNICATIONS TO THE COMMUNITY ABOUT LIKE THE 4,000 REBATE AND HOW THERE'S JUST A BUNCH OF AFFORDABLE ONES OUT THERE.
UM, THE GENERAL PLAN UPDATE, SUPPORTING THE LAND USE AND ZONING ESPECIALLY, BUT JUST GENERALLY SUPPORTING THE GENERAL PLAN AS IS, UM, SUPPORTING PUBLIC TRANSIT, WHICH IS REALLY STRUGGLING RIGHT NOW.
AND I KNOW IT'S A BIG THING THAT THE MAYOR CARES ABOUT.
UM, MONITORING AND REPORTING WITH A FOCUS ON OUTCOMES.
THE CITY MANAGEMENT OF FACILITIES, LIKE PRIORITIZING THE CITY'S ACTUAL SORT OF WALKING THE WALK STUFF, SEA LEVEL RISE.
AND THEN THE PG E CONVERSATION SHIFT TO ELECTRIFICATION.
UM, CHANGING A DU REGULATIONS TO HELP WITH DENSITY AND THE, AND THE FOOD WASTE ORDINANCE, WHICH WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON LAST YEAR AND SORT OF FELL, FELL THROUGH THE CRACKS.
SO ANY ONES THAT WE FEEL LIKE WE CAN TAKE OFF OR ANY ONES THAT WE, THAT ARE, WE'RE FEELING REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT THAT WE CAN, UH, IF, IF I COULD MAYBE JUST A RECOMMENDATION REQUEST, MAYBE SEA LEVEL RISE.
THAT'S A TOUGH ONE BECAUSE WE AS A BODY HAVE SO LITTLE ABILITY TO AFFECT, BUT I THINK WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE RECOMMENDING TO COUNCIL THAT THEY PRIORITIZE THESE TOPICS.
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BY USING SEDIMENT SOLUTIONS TO DO, TO MOVE THE DREDGING TO WHERE WE NEED TO FOR SEA LEVEL RISE APPLICATION.I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND.
SO THAT'S NOT ABOUT CHANGING SEA LEVEL RISE, IT'S ABOUT ADAPTING TO WHAT'S COMING.
AND WE NEED TO START NOW BUILDING OUR, OUR DIKES AND THINGS AND CHANGING OUR, OUR STRUCTURE ON THE WASH.
I'LL, I'LL LET IT GO, BUT WE DO NEED TO CUT SOMETHING.
I DON'T KNOW THE TREE PLAN IS CUT.
WE'RE WE CAN JUST DELETE THAT ONE.
WAIT, WELL THEN HOW MANY WE DOWN? 'CAUSE THAT'S HAPPENING ON MONDAY AND I'M SAYING EVERYBODY SHOULD JUST GO ON MONDAY AND SUPPORT IT INSTEAD OF ACTUALLY USING OUR VOICE AS A BODY.
IT'D BE GOOD TO KNOW HOW MANY WE HAVE.
SO WE, WE, WE KNOW HOW MANY WE NEED TO CUT.
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14.
I'M NOT GIVING UP MINE, SO, OKAY.
WELL WE CAN, WE CAN DO IT THAT WAY.
WE COULD START BY SAYING LIKE, EVERYBODY PICKS ONE THAT THEY'RE SUPER PASSIONATE ABOUT.
I LIKE THAT WE COULD DO IT THAT WAY.
AND IF, IF WE CAN ALL AGREE WITH THE ONES THAT WE'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT, WE CAN MOVE THOSE FORWARD RIGHT AWAY.
SO 14 ISN'T THAT MANY? MORE THAN 10? YEAH.
WELL THEN FIFTEEN'S NOT MORE THAN 14 AND 20 IS NOT MUCH MORE THAN 15.
GENERAL PLAN UPDATE GETS A STAR.
ANY OTHER STARS? ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION.
THAT I THINK IS ALSO LISTED THREE TIMES HERE.
I, YEAH, I, IN MY COPY I DELETED THEM, BUT MAYBE WE, PATRICK CAN WORK ON THAT.
SO GREEN AND THEN YOU SAID ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
UH, IF YOU COMBINE 'EM ALL TOGETHER FOR THAT TRANSPORTATION OF THERE, THERE TOGETHER.
SO IF THE CAR, ANYTHING TO DO WITH CARS, UM, AS WELL AS THE PASS AND TRANSIT THEY ALL, SO BASICALLY WE'LL MAKE MICRO MOBILITY AND E-BIKES AND LIKE A SUB BULLET.
WE PUT IT LUMPED ALL TOGETHER A THING.
AND THAT GOT, THAT GETS RID OF TWO RIGHT THERE.
AND INSTEAD OF SAYING IS ALL, UH, SHENANIGANS, IT'S UH, UM, TO, UH, UM, ACTUALLY SET UP REGULATIONS.
YOU CAN LEAVE THE SHENANIGANS IN THERE
YEAH, SHENANIGANS AND, AND UH, AND THEN REGULATE AND WORD REGULATING BE IN THERE.
UM, SO THE, SO, SO DID I GET THIS RIGHT? WE WANT TO ADD MICRO MOBILITY SLASH ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION SLASH RIDESHARE AT NORTH STATION.
IS THAT, WHAT WAS THE, I SO WHAT I DID WAS I PUT MICRO MOBILITY AND E-BIKES AS A SUB-BULLET UNDER ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION AS TWO SUB-BULLETS.
I MEAN, SO IT'S ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION, SUB-BULLET, A MICRO MOBILITY SUB-BULLET B E-BIKES.
UM, PATRICK, ARE YOU GONNA TRY AND LIKE MATCH THESE TO WORK PLAN? COULD WE YOU SHOULD JUST USE, USE THE SAME ONE.
THAT SEEMS LIKE A DIFFICULT TASK, BUT YEAH.
THIS IS ALL DEALING WITH PERSONAL MO JUST MOBILITY IN GENERAL.
SO JUST SHIFTING OUR MOBILITY PATTERNS AND, AND ALL THIS IS, SEVERAL OF THESE ARE RELATED TO OUR MOBILITY PATTERNS.
SO THAT COULD BE JUST ONE TOPIC THAT WE WANNA PUSH, PUSH THAT AS, AS A MAJOR EMPHASIS.
AND THEN ALL THIS IS INCLUDED WITHIN THAT ONE TOPIC.
CAN I, CAN I ALSO RECOMMEND THAT WE, WE, UH, EXPLICITLY TIE ALL OF THESE TO SOMETHING IN THE BLUEPRINT? LIKE THAT SHOULD BE A CORNERSTONE ACTION, RIGHT? WE COULD DO THAT.
THESE ARE DEFINITELY ALL TIED IN.
I MEAN WE CAN, WE CAN EXPLICITLY STATE IT.
JUST LIKE, WHICH, WHICH ONE? YEAH.
WELL, AND, AND MAYBE THAT'S THE EXERCISE THAT WE CAN DO AFTER THIS, UM, IS TO MATCH THESE DIRECTLY WITH IT.
UM, LIKE THE, AND, AND THIS IS JUST ME THROWING OUT AN IDEA, ELEVATING THE BLUEPRINT ACTION ITEMS AND SAYING DO THIS ACT THIS ACTION ITEM BY SUPPORTING MICRO MOBILITY, LIKE SUPPORT THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION, UH, CORNERSTONE ACTION.
I, I DON'T HAVE IT MEMORIZED, BUT UM, I COULD, I COULD GET THAT OUT.
AND THEN THIS IS HOW YOU DO IT.
I'M DISAPPOINTED AFTER LIKE YOU DON'T HAVE IT ALL ON THERE.
YEAH, I'M SURE IT'S AN AT SOMETHING.
CAN WE, UH, CAN WE ELEVATE ANYMORE? SOME, SOME WE COULD.
I COULD, I COULD SAY THE FOOD WEAR WASTE, THE, THERE, IS THERE A CURRENT EV CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE WORK PLAN ITEM? I KNOW THAT IT'S IN THE, A WORK PLAN ITEM IS A WORK PLAN ITEM SPECIFICALLY.
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IT'S, IT'S IN THE CIP SO THERE'S A CIP PROJECT FOR THAT.SO YOU COULD, AS PART OF IT, YOU COULD.
I WILL SAY I WOULD TRY AT LEAST IN THE STAFF REPORT TO LINK IT TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY.
THERE'S A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF TIME AND EFFORT AND MONEY GOING TOWARDS THAT PARTICULAR CORNER OF OUR TOWN.
I KNOW THEY'RE DIFFERENT PROJECTS, BUT TO THE EXTENT THERE IS CONSTRUCTION AND INFRASTRUCTURE, PARTICULARLY ANY ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE PLANNED FOR THAT PART OF THE FAIRGROUNDS, IF WE COULD TACK ON SOME ELECTRIC INFRASTRUCTURE, PUBLIC NOT, NOT FLEET PUBLIC.
I MEAN I WOULD, IT WOULD, I WOULD BE, IT WOULD CALL IT HYBRID, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE, IT WOULD BE MOSTLY USED BY THE FLEET OVERNIGHT AND THE PUBLIC DURING THE DAY.
THE THE FACILITY ITSELF NEEDS SECURE.
BUT SO, AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY ARE PLANNING TO HAVE EV EV INFRASTRUCTURE THERE, UM, FOR THE POLICE AND, AND FIRE FLEET.
BUT UM, THAT ALSO COULD BE TIED TO THE FAIRGROUNDS MASTER PLAN PROCESS.
WHICH IS WAY THAT'S MAYBE A BETTER AND GRANT FUNDED BY THE WAY.
SO, UM, SO YEAH, SO THAT AND YEAH.
SO I PUT, THERE'S TWO EV ONES.
ONE IS THE CHARGING STATIONS AND ONE IS JUST PUBLICIZING LIKE HOW GOOD EVS ARE RIGHT NOW FOR, YOU KNOW, MONEY-WISE FOR PEOPLE.
AND I FEEL LIKE THOSE ARE BOTH UNDER EV INFRASTRUCTURE, SO I JUST PUT THEM AS TWO SUB BULLETS, IF THAT'S FAIR.
'CAUSE YOU'RE LIKE THE ED PERSON, THE PROMOTION IS GOING TO HAPPEN REGARDLESS OF IT BEING UPLIFTED.
SO THAT'S MORE OF A, THAT'S MORE OF A TASK FOR THIS BODY INSTEAD OF LIKE A, OKAY, I'M GONNA TAKE IT OUT THEN.
UM, SO GRANT FUNDING, UM, EV INFRASTRUCTURE, ARE YOU ELEVATING THAT ONE, BEN? IS THAT, WHAT IS THAT GONNA BE YOUR YOUR STAR? YEAH, YOUR STAR.
SO IT'S GRANTS, TRANSIT MONITORING AND REPORTING.
AND THEN CITY FACILITIES, SEA LEVEL RISE, UH, DECARBONIZING THE GRID OR LIKE HOW, WHAT DO YOU WANNA CALL THAT? JUST PG E CONVERSATION ABOUT THE AGING INFRASTRUCTURE AND TRYING TO GET, UH, GAS BURNING APPLIANCES OUT.
I DON'T KNOW IF, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SAY THAT.
I'M WILLING TO RESCIND THE MONITORING AND REPORTING PIECE BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT ELEMENT IS WELL UNDERWAY.
UM, AND SO MAYBE THAT ISN'T SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ELEVATED.
I THINK THOSE ARE GREAT SUGGESTIONS OF THINGS WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THOUGH.
I'LL JUST PUT THAT OUT THERE THAT WE, WE APPRECIATE THAT AND WE, WE AGREE BECAUSE IT ALSO SUPPORTS THESE GUYS BEING ABLE TO DO IT.
WELL THEN MAYBE I SHOULD RESCIND MY YEAH, YOU MIGHT RESEND YOUR RE YEAH.
I'M GONNA UN RESEND OR UN UNCROSS IT OUT.
UM, MONITORING, REPORTING, CITY FACILITIES, SEA LEVEL RISE DISTRIBUTION NETWORKS, A DU REGULATIONS, FOOD WEAR, WASTE ORDINANCE.
SO SEVERAL OF THOSE RIGHT THERE BASE ARE ALL BASICALLY ENERGY EFFICIENCY RELATED.
SO IF YOU WANT TO JUST LUMP SEVERAL OF THOSE TOGETHER.
UM, SO THE ENHANCED LOCAL DISTRIBUTION, THE AGING INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, AND THEN EVEN RIGHT ABOVE THAT, THERE WAS ONE OR TWO UP THERE.
UM, FACILITIES NEED TO BE PRO, SO CITY MANAGEMENT FACILITIES, PRIORITIES.
SO ALL OF THAT COULD BE LUMPED UNDER ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND, AND EVEN JUST THE GAS, UH, GETTING, UH, PUSHING FOR ELECTRIFICATION WORK THAN PG ALSO IS UNDER, UH, MORE EFFICIENT ENERGY USE.
UM, I DON'T REMEMBER WHO SAID THE CITY MANAGEMENT FACILITIES, BUT, UM, WAS, WAS THE ONLY ITEM ON THAT ENERGY OR WERE, WERE THERE OTHER CITY MANAGEMENT, LIKE THINGS BESIDES ENERGY? UM, FULLY ENERGY FOR THAT ONE.
SO I SUPPORT GROUPING IT INTO JUST THAT ENERGY SO WE CAN INCLUDE THOSE TOGETHER.
SO, SO BASICALLY, UH, A COUPLE OF THE TOPICS, JUST MOBILITY.
HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE MOVE AROUND TOWN? AND THEN HOW DO WE USE ENERGY IS SEEMS LIKE, UH, TWO VERY LARGE LUMPED TOGETHER AREAS THAT WE WANT TO EMPHASIZE.
SO I WOULD JUST MAKE THOSE TWO TOPICS.
SAY START WITH, THESE ARE THE SUBTOPICS UNDERNEATH.
UM, AND, AND THOSE ARE TWO, TWO OF THE TOP PRIORITIES, MOBILITY AND ENERGY USE AND REALLY WORK ON THAT.
AND THEN THESE ARE THE SUBTOPICS THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED.
DOES THAT, WOULD THAT WORK? THOSE ARE VERY LARGE BUCKETS.
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BUT THESE ARE SOME, I'M NOT SURE IF WE'RE READY TO, IF THESE ARE THE EXACT SPECIFIC THINGS WE WANT TO DO ALSO IN THERE, BUT YEAH.SO UNDER, SO THE, THE TOPIC IS FOCUSING ON ENERGY AND UNDER THAT IS A SUB-BULLET FOR CITY FACILITIES AND, AND THEN ALSO A SUB BULLET FOR THE DISTRIBUTION NETWORKS LIKE WORKING WITH PG E TO GET RID OF A, RIGHT.
IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? MM-HMM
UM, I, I HAVE A, JUST A QUESTION LIKE CLARIFICATION.
I'M JUST KINDA STRUGGLING TO UNDERSTAND HERE A LITTLE BIT.
WHAT WE'RE SENDING OUT HERE IS WHAT WE WANT THE CITY COUNCIL TO BE WORKING ON.
TO PRIORITIZE NOT WHAT WE ARE WORKING ON, RIGHT? CORRECT.
BECAUSE THEY'RE SETTING THEIR, THAT'S, BUT I THINK THAT'S GETTING MUDDLED.
I FEEL, FEEL LIKE THAT LIKE WORKING GROUP ON RESULTS OF ENERGY AUDIT.
I WAS LIKE, OH, LIKE WAIT, WHAT'S GOING ON? OKAY, THAT'S FOR ME TO FOLLOW UP ON AFTER THIS.
I, I JUST, THAT'S, I I GOT CONFUSED.
UM, THE OTHER BUCKET WAS, UH, I THINK FOR, UH, LAND USE AND HOUSING.
SO, UM, I THINK THERE WAS TWO OR THREE TOPICS UNDER THAT MAJOR TOPIC COULD BE LUMPED.
WE, WE ALREADY APPROVED THAT ONE.
GENERAL PLAN LAND USE, I WOULD LIKE THAT TO BE ON ITS OWN.
YEAH, THAT ONE'S ALREADY BEEN GREENLIGHTED WITH THE K, YOU, YOU SAW THE STAR, RIGHT? OH, UM, UM, YOU SAW THE STAR
UM, AND THEN UNDER SEA LEVEL RISE, I WOULD SAY SEA LEVEL RISE ADAPTATION USING SEDIMENT SOLUTIONS CONCEPTS, WHICH I KNOW HAS STARTED TO BE IN THE WORKS.
AND WE COULD JUST PUSH THAT UP BECAUSE THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE DREDGING, THE, THE BRIDGE CONSTRUCTION, UH, HOW WE'RE GOING TO USE THE ALMOND MARSH AND, AND UH, UM, AND SCHOENBERGER PARK ALL GONNA BE TRANSITIONED INTO SOMETHING NEW AND DIFFERENT DOWN THE ROAD HERE.
AND SO THAT IS WHAT'S BASICALLY ON THE TABLE NOW THAT SFBI HAS PROPOSED THAT WE DO.
CAN WE SAY, BECAUSE LIKE, I DON'T KNOW THAT THE REST OF THIS BODY HAS LIKE RESEARCHED THAT PARTICULAR METHOD, RIGHT? CAN WE JUST SAY SEA LEVEL RISE ADAPTATION PATIENTS AND LEAVE IT AT THAT AND JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT, OKAY.
UM, JUST LEAVE IT AT SEA LEVEL RISE ADAPTATION.
SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE FOUR HIGHLIGHTED, UNLESS, UNLESS WE'RE SAYING WE SHOULD HIGHLIGHT SEA LEVEL RISE FOR, FOR THIS ONE, EVEN THOUGH I SPENT LIKE FIVE MINUTES DESCRIBING WHAT IT WAS AND HOW IMPORTANT IT'S
IT'S ULTIMATELY GONNA BE A-A-C-P-U-C DECISION WHETHER WE WERE EVEN INCLUDED IN THAT UNTIL, WHEN YOU SAY THIS ONE, ARE YOU SAYING, SORRY, JFP THE PG E THING.
THE ENHANCED LOCAL DISTRIBUTION NETWORKS FOR DECARB.
WORK WITH PG E TO SHIFT TO ELECTRIFICATION.
I JUST, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ANYTHING THAT THE COUNCIL'S GONNA BE ABLE TO DO ON THAT ONE UNLESS, AND UNTIL WE'RE SELECTED AS ONE OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT'S APPLICABLE FOR THAT.
SO, AND THAT'S PROBABLY DECEMBER OR LATER NEXT YEAR.
SO IF, IF THERE'S ONE TO CUT, I WOULD SAY THAT ONE.
AND THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT DEB AND I AREN'T GONNA BE FOCUSING ON THAT AND PARTICIPATING IN ALL THE MEETINGS, BUT THERE'S JUST, THERE'S NOT REALLY MUCH FOR THE COUNCIL TO DO ON THAT ONE AT THIS POINT.
AND WE PROBABLY COULD THE NEXT ONE THAT, UH, THE ADUS, I, WE COULD CUT THAT.
THAT'S NOT, UH, THE BIGGEST ITEM TO WORK ON.
AND, AND THAT'S ALREADY GOING, THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA HAPPEN ANYWAY.
AND I'LL BE PUSHING THAT ON COUNCIL ANYWAY, SO THIS BODY DOESN'T NEED TO WORRY ABOUT IT.
SO WE CAN TAKE OUT K IF YOU WANT AND REDUCE IT DOWN.
OR IS THIS INCLUDED IN LAND? USE THAT UN SUB AS A SUB THING UNDER LAND USE THAT SUPPORT A DU UH, CONSTRUCTION.
CAN I READ THEM? GRANT? I'LL JUST SAY GRANTS.
ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION, EV INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, GENERAL PLAN, UPDATE, PUBLIC TRANSIT REPORTING AND MONITORING.
ENERGY, SEA LEVEL RISE, FOOD WEAR, WASTE ORDINANCE.
DID YOU SAY ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION? I THINK I DID, YEAH.
TRANSPORTATION, NOT PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
I SAID BOTH
AND, AND THE, AND MICROCAR MOBILITY COULD BE A, A SUBHEADING UNDER TRANSIT.
'CAUSE THAT, THAT'S PART OF THE PUBLIC TRANSIT SYSTEM.
IT'S UNDER ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION.
IT'S NOT ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION.
I'LL PUT IT UNDER, MAYBE GO UNDER TRANSIT INSTEAD.
TRANSIT, WHICH IS TRANSIT, WHICH IS SUPPORTING PUBLIC TRANSIT, INCLUDING, UH, RIDE SHARING.
IS IT, IS IT TOO MUCH TO GO THROUGH THE EXERCISE OF TYING EACH ONE OF THESE TWO CORNERSTONE? I DON'T THINK YOU NEED TO DO THAT TODAY.
LIKE, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S EASY TO DO AFTERWARDS.
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I THINK.OH, I, I JUST, JUST ASKING THE QUESTION.
YEAH, I THINK DEB AND I CAN TAKE THAT ON.
SO HERE'S SOME, CAN WE HAVE A MOTION? DO WE NEED A MOTION? IT WOULD BE GOOD, YEAH.
TO, TO, AND, AND THAT WAY IT'S ON THE RECORD AND YOU CAN SAY, I MEAN, YOU JUST SAID WHICH ONES, BUT, UM, THAT'S FINE.
SHOULD I DO IT SINCE I HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME, OR CAN I, I CAN DO IT RIGHT AS THE CHAIR.
UH, JUST ANOTHER CLARIFICATION, SORRY.
UM, THE LANGUAGE, IS THIS CLEANED UP AT ALL? LIKE, OR IS THIS JUST LIKE, AS IT, LIKE HOW, HOW DOES THIS WORK? DOES IT GET FILTERED THROUGH SOMEHOW? SO IT'S LIKE ACTUALLY LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE SUPPORTING THE GENERAL LANGUAGE SO IT DOESN'T HAVE THE WORD SHENANIGANS IN THERE.
HOW DOES THAT WORK? I, I MEAN, I GUESS IT'S WHATEVER YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH.
IF YOU WANT THE LANGUAGE AS WAS DISPLAYED, THAT'S ONE THING.
IF YOU WANT TO DELEGATE LIKE THE CHAIR, TO WORK WITH STAFF, TO LIKE, COME UP WITH A CONCISE THING WITH THOSE AS THE CATEGORIES, SO IT'S NOT LIKE SOME, YEAH.
I THINK THAT'S, THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME THAT LIKE, WE PROBABLY WANT THIS IN A WAY THAT IS DIRECTIVE TO COUNCIL AND NOT JUST LIKE TREES, LIKE, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST THE WORDS.
I WOULD RECOMMEND, UH, THAT, THAT BE WORKED ON.
'CAUSE IT NEEDS A LOT OF WORDSMITHING TO YEAH.
'CAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S, IT'S A BIT SCATTERBRAINED A LITTLE BIT AND THE WORDS AND THE TYPE OF WORDS ARE BEING USED.
IT'S, BUT NOT AS A FINAL DOCUMENT.
YEAH, BECAUSE I TAKE NOTES EVEN MORE SCRAMBLED THAN THAT
UM, SO, BUT, BUT I, BUT IT'S GOTTA BE TURNED INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, UH, YEAH.
A USER FRIENDLY DOCUMENT, THEN I'M, I'M GOOD.
SO THE THEN OKAY,
DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? OH, GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU.
NOW I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT AS A BODY WE ARE RECOMMENDING TO COUNSEL THE PRIORITIES, UM, FOR THIS TERM.
UH, B FO FOCUS ON GRANTS, FOCUS ON ACT, ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION, EV INFRASTRUCTURE, GENERAL PLAN UPDATES, SUPPORT PUBLIC TRANSIT, UM, MONITORING AND SUPPORTING, UM, GETTING CITY FACILITIES, ENERGY UPGRADES, UM, ADAPT, SEA LEVEL RISE ADAPTATION PLAN, AND THE FOOD WEAR WASTE ORDINANCE.
UM, AND THAT WE'RE GONNA WORK, I, I WILL WORK WITH STAFF ON WORDING THIS IN A MORE PROFESSIONAL MANNER.
THAT ALSO INCLUDES, UM, HOW EACH OF THESE ITEMS ARE RELATED TO THE BLUEPRINT.
CAN I GET A SECOND? I, I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.
IS THAT YOU? THAT'S SUPPOSED TO SAY SECOND.
NO, AND NOW I JUST, WE'RE GONNA VOTE.
AND THEN KRISHNA AND THOS ARE ABSENT.
ALL RIGHT, THEN WE'RE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS A PROGRESS REPORT FROM THE AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEES.
UM, AND ACTUALLY ONE OF OUR AD HOCS IS MAYBE DISSOLVED BECAUSE WE LOST OUR COMMISSIONER THAT WAS LEADING IT.
AND SO I THINK WE ARE JUST DOWN TO THE ONE AD HOC.
UH, WE HAVE AN EV AD HOC, WHICH IS SORT OF A CATCHALL.
UM, WE'RE WORKING, WE HAVE A GOOGLE DOCUMENT THAT'S BEING ADDED TO, UM, WE'RE DEFINITELY GONNA EXPAND ON THE MICRO MOBILITY PIECE, UH, AS WELL AS THE E-BIKE SAFETY PIECE.
AND I THINK PROBABLY INCLUDE EVEN AN E-BIKE CATEGORY AS ITS OWN CATEGORY.
UM, THAT BEING SAID, UM, THERE'S SEVERAL DISCREET TOPICS THAT WE DISCUSS AND THEN ARE WORKING TOWARDS LIKE TASKS WHICH WE CAN THEN GO DO EITHER AS, YOU KNOW, A AD HOC OR POSSIBLY WORK WITH THE STAFF TO ENGAGE THE PUBLIC ON.
WE'RE NOT QUITE READY TO PULL THE TRIGGER ON THAT ENGAGEMENT, BUT WE ARE SORT OF CONSOLIDATING, UH, THE TOPICS AND THE DISCRETE ACTIONS.
UH, THE FIRST IS EV INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO, UM, ONE KIND OF MISSED OPPORTUNITY RATHER, OR UNDERUTILIZED OPPORTUNITY IN THE EV CHARGING UNIVERSE IS THE PROMOTION AND AWARENESS OF LEVEL ONE CHARGING.
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CHARGING IS ALSO JUST KNOWN AS ELECTRIC PLUGS.UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, IN SITUATIONS WHERE LEVEL TWO CHARGING AND YOU GET INTO THE WHOLE PANEL UPGRADES SITUATION AND ALL THAT, IT'S, UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE GIVE UP AND THERE IS A REAL OPPORTUNITY TO DO LEVEL ONE CHARGING, BASICALLY, UH, MOST PLACES IN TOWN, YOU KNOW, AND, UM, SO TO ENCOURAGE THAT.
UM, AND THIS TIES A LITTLE BIT INTO, UM, THE SORT OF 1.2, WHICH IS EV READY ZONING.
UM, AND THEN THE GENERAL PLAN UPDATE.
SO AS PART OF EVERY CITY'S GENERAL PLAN, THERE IS LIKE STATE MANDATED EV CHARGING READINESS.
GENERALLY THAT READINESS IS LIKE PUTTING IN CONDUIT THAT COULD HAVE FUTURE COPPER WIRES IN IT.
AND WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE A SLIGHTLY MORE ROBUST, UH, VERSION OF OUR, UH, ZONING REQUIREMENTS.
SO LIKE, MAYBE REQUIRING LEVEL ONE INFRASTRUCTURE OR POSSIBLY MORE LEVEL TWO INFRASTRUCTURE RATHER THAN JUST THE POSSIBILITY OF LEVEL TWO INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO THAT'S A BIG LIFT INVOLVING THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THAT.
SO WE'RE AWARE OF THAT AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT THE HIGHEST PRIORITY, BUT CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT, UM, IS NECESSARY.
UH, AND THE LAST ONE IS MAYBE THE MOST INTERESTING, BUT REQUIRES THE MOST, UH, EFFORT AND COLLABORATION IS AROUND, UM, IDENTIFYING EXISTING MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS WHERE EV ADOPTION AND INFRASTRUCTURE CAN BE PILOTED, RIGHT? SO THAT'S WHERE A LOT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DENSITY, HOW, YOU KNOW, HOUSING DENSITY.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S SORT OF A CONFLICT BETWEEN DENSITY AND EV CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE, RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU CAN'T HAVE A BUNCH OF LEVEL TWO INFRASTRUCTURE IN MULTIFAMILY, EXISTING MULTIFAMILY.
THERE'S JUST ELECTRICAL LIMITATIONS ON THAT.
SO THE IDEA IS TO, UM, IDENTIFY THE MULTIFAMILY HOUSING OPERATORS, LIKE THE NONPROFITS THAT ARE INTERESTED.
THERE ARE GRANTS OUT THERE TO DO THIS.
UM, THERE ARE GRANTS THAT HAVE BEEN AWARDED FOR PEOPLE TO GO FIND THESE MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS.
AND SO THERE'S SORT OF A MATCHMAKING POTENTIAL THAT COULD, UH, HAPPEN, UH, AS WELL AS, AGAIN, LIKE THE LEVEL TWO, THE LEVEL ONE, UH, DISCUSSION.
SO THAT'S THE MULTIFAMILY COMPONENT.
UH, IN ADDITION, THIS ISN'T AS ELABORATED, BUT BRINGING IN CARS, UH, INTO THOSE AS WELL.
YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE HAVE LIKE RENTAL CAR OPERATORS OR, UM, YOU KNOW, GET A COUPLE CARS AND HAVE THAT BE MANAGED BY THE, UM, THE MULTIFAMILY HOUSING, UH, OPERATORS.
SO THAT'S THE WHOLE, UM, EV INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, TOPIC BROADLY.
UH, NUMBER TWO IS, UM, COULD USE A, A BETTER TITLE, BUT EV AUTO DEALERS AND MARKET TRANSFORMATION, JUST SORT OF THE IDEA OF ENCOURAGING BROADER EV ADOPTION, UM, AND SALES OF ELECTRIC VEHICLES FOR, UH, PRIVATE USE.
SO THAT ENCAPSULATES BOTH, UM, NEW CARS AS WELL AS USED CARS.
YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY HAVING WORKED ON THIS, UH, THE USED CAR OPPORTUNITY IS PROBABLY MY NUMBER ONE, UH, IN TERMS OF EMISSIONS REDUCTION.
UM, A SPECIFIC POINT WHICH, UM, WILL REQUIRE WORK AND DISCUSSION AND SOME ACTION BY THE CITY IS, UH, THE NOTION OF A SALES TAX HOLIDAY FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
SO THE CITY CHARGES SALES TAX, WE HAVE AN AUTO MALL.
WE'RE SOMEWHAT UNIQUE IN THE NORTH BAY AND HAVING, UH, AN AUTO MALL WHERE CARS ARE SOLD.
AND SO THE CITY HAS WITHIN ITS ABILITY TO OFFER A SALES TAX HOLIDAY FOR, UH, VEHICLES LIKE ZERO EMISSION VEHICLES.
UM, UH, THERE'S A MICRO MOBILITY TOPIC, WHICH, UM, INCLUDES BOTH MICROCAR AS WELL AS E-BIKES AND THE SAFETY TOPIC.
I THINK WE COVERED THAT, UH, A GREAT DEAL.
BUT THAT IS, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE MORE EXCITING AND GROWTH, UH, TRENDS.
UH, NUMBER FOUR IS CITY FLEET ELECTRIFICATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE.
THIS IS SOMETHING, UH, PATRICK HAS WORKED ON QUITE A BIT.
WE'VE HAD A STUDY AND, UM, OUR SLOWLY AND SURELY BUILDING OUT OUR CITY'S FLEET, MOSTLY FOR LIGHTNINGS.
I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHAT THE LATEST FLEET IS.
I KNOW WHEN, UM, RHIANNA WAS HERE, SHE SORT OF GAVE, THERE WAS AN UPDATE ON LIKE, WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THE FLEET AND THE PLANS OF THE FLEET.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BEEN YEAH, I YOU'RE, YOU'RE PUTTING THAT PATRICK DEAD
IF YOU GIVE ME A, IF YOU WANNA KEEP GOING.
ANY, YEAH, WHEN YOU FINISH, I'LL, I CAN UPDATE WHAT OUR FLEET IS.
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OKAY.UM, AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, ALSO WITHIN THE CITY INFRASTRUCTURE COMPONENT IS MORE WHAT CI, WHAT PUBLIC CHARGING CAN THE CITY HOST? SO LIKE, THAT'S THE COMMUNITY CENTER, YOU KNOW, THE FAIRGROUNDS OR TWO GREAT EXAMPLES.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE SMART STATIONS, THAT SORT OF THING.
THERE WAS AN IDEA TO DO LEVEL TWO CHARGING AT SOME OF THE PARKS, WHICH IS INTERESTING.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S A WHOLE THAT GETS INTO A WHOLE, LIKE, HOW DO YOU ACTUALLY DO, UH, PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE? UH, AND THE LAST, UM, WHICH IS, I WOULD SAY, UM, INTERESTING IN THAT IT SEEMS LIKE THE LIGHTEST LIFT, BUT HAS A LOT OF POTENTIAL IS A EXPANDING AND ENCOURAGING, UH, MORE EV FAST CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO PETALUMA IS NOW, LIKE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PLUG SHARE MAP, WE HAVE THESE THREE SORT OF, OR I GUESS FOUR NOW.
UM, FAST CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE HOTSPOTS, RIGHT? AND SO THE IDEA WITH THIS EFFORT IS TO JUST HAVE THE CITY ENGAGE WITH THOSE PRIVATE OPERATORS AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR WANTS, NEEDS AND CHALLENGES ARE.
ARE THEY HAVING CHALLENGES GETTING PERMITS TO PUT IN EV CHARGING BY ESPRESSO? LIKE, IT DIDN'T SEEM LIKE THAT.
IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S A PG E PROBLEM.
BUT AGAIN, LIKE, WOULD THEY WANT MORE SITES? WOULD THEY WANT TO DO A FAST CHARGING DEPOT AT THE FAIRGROUNDS? SO REALLY JUST THE IDEA TO ESTABLISH MEANS OF COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE HALF A DOZEN, UH, PUBLIC FAST CHARGING OPERATORS, SUCH THAT, UM, WHEN OPPORTUNITIES, GRANTS, ET CETERA, COME UP, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A TEAM DEDICATED TO SORT OF FACILITATE THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, AS AN EXAMPLE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, PATRICK MENTIONED THE CHARGE PROGRAM.
THERE'S LIKE A SIMILAR STATEWIDE GRANT PROGRAM, AND IT'S BASICALLY FIRST COME, FIRST SERVED IF YOU HAVE A PERMIT, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S ONE THING THE CITY CAN DO, IS LIKE, HEY, HERE'S YOUR PERMIT.
YOU KNOW, SO IF WE HAD THOSE RELATIONSHIPS AND HAD THE SITES AND COULD GET THE PERMITS DONE, THEN WE COULD GET MORE FUNDING TO DO THIS TYPE OF INFRASTRUCTURE.
UM, SO ANYWAY, THAT'S THE WORKING LIST OF TOPICS.
UH, AND, UH, FROM THAT WERE DEVELOPING MORE DISCREET ACTIONS, AND THEN EVENTUALLY A, UH, ASKS AND SORT OF, UH, REQUEST FOR COLLABORATION AND THAT SORT OF THING.
UH, THE LAST THING I'LL SAY ON THE TOPIC, I ALSO HAVE BEEN PARTICIPATING IN THE PETALUMA CITY SCHOOLS CLIMATE.
THEY CALL IT THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMITTEE.
SO, UM, THEY DO HAVE A TRANSPORTATION, UH, COMPONENT, CERTAINLY WITHIN THEIR RESOLUTION.
UM, THAT GROUP IS STILL FORMATIVE, I'LL SAY, BUT THERE IS, UM, STAFF AT PETALUMA CITY SCHOOLS WORKING ON TRANSPORTATION.
AND, UM, THE IDEA IS TO MEET WITH THEM, YOU KNOW, AS AN AD HOC, UH, WITH THEIR STAFF AND EXPAND THIS CONVERSATION.
ANY QUESTIONS? UM, DO YOU, DO YOU WANT ME TO JUMP IN ON THE FLEET? DO YOU WANT A FLEET UPDATE? OH, YEAH.
UM, SO YEAH, WE JUST, I JUST DID THIS, UH, JUST A, AGAIN, KIND OF IN THAT THEME OF LOOKING WHERE WE'VE COME FROM SINCE MEASURE U WENT INTO EFFECT.
UM, IN 2020, WE WERE DOING A FISCAL AND ORGANIZATIONAL SUSTAINABILITY UPDATE TO COUNCIL.
AND AT THAT POINT WE HAD A SINGLE, UH, CHEVY BOLT AS OUR, OUR LOAN EV IN THE FLEET.
NOW WE HAVE 46, UH, EVS IN OUR FLEET.
UM, AND JUST KIND OF BROADLY, AT THAT TIME IN 2020, THE AVERAGE AGE OF THE FLEET WAS 10 YEARS OLD.
UM, AND NOW IT'S MORE LIKE NINE YEARS OLD.
SO EVEN THOUGH SIX YEARS HAVE PASSED, UM, WE'VE ACTUALLY DECREASED THE AVERAGE AGE OF OUR FLEET.
UM, SO THAT'S PRETTY EXCITING.
AND WE'VE, SO IT'S A, A, A MORE RELIABLE AND CLEANER FLEET, UM, IN A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT WAY.
SO, AND FIVE OF THOSE I THINK ARE, OR SORRY, FOUR OF THOSE ARE FULL-SIZE TRANSIT BUSES.
UM, PAT PATRICK, HOW MANY TOTAL IN THE FLEET? YOU SAID 46 OUT OF? I BELIEVE IT'S 240, UH, SORRY, 273 PATRICK.
UH, WHAT ABOUT SCHOOL BUSES? 'CAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE SOME ELECTRICAL BUSES.
WELL, THE CITY OF PETALUMA DOESN'T.
THE CITY SCHOOLS DOES, RIGHT? I'M JUST, I I, IT JUST, YEAH, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT.
DO YOU KNOW DEB? BUT THEY, THEY ARE, THEY'RE, THEY HAVE 17 ELECTRIC SCHOOL BUSES AND IT'S AWESOME.
BUT THEY DON'T DO SCHOOL ROUTE PICKUPS,
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IT'S JUST FOR FIELD TRIPS AND SUCH.IT HAS TO BE PAST A CERTAIN DISTANCE.
WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE MIX OF LIKE LIGHTNINGS VERSUS OTHER HEAVY DUTY? UH, IT'S, IT'S MOSTLY LIGHTNINGS.
I KNOW WE HAVE, UH, TWO OR THREE IION.
UM, SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S VERY HEAVILY WEIGHTED THE, THERE, I THINK THERE'S LIKE THREE E TRANSITS, LIKE THE DELIVERY BOX VAN KIND OF VEHICLES.
UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S PROBABLY LIKE, I'M GUESSING AROUND 2025 LIGHTNINGS.
AND THEN OTHER, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY 10 POOL VEHICLES, AND THEN THE FOUR, UM, TRANSIT BUSES, AND THEN OTHER KIND OF MISCELLANEOUS VEHICLES.
THE LIGHTINGS ARE BIDIRECTIONAL.
WELL, AND YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY THE THOUGHT OCCURRED TO US, UM, AT TIMES, YOU KNOW, I WOULD, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT LUMA ICE AND NEEDING TO GET GENERATORS OUT THERE TO KEEP THE ICE COLD, I WAS SAYING LIKE, OH, HEY, LET'S, LET'S THINK ABOUT THE TRUCKS.
THEY, THEY, BUT THEY, IT NEEDED A BIGGER DRAW.
THOSE, THOSE WERE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT, UH, POWER LOADS THAT THEY NEEDED.
DON'T WANNA, YOU KNOW, SHORT OUT SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS OF EQUIPMENT FOR THAT.
UM, BUT IT DOES OPEN THAT IDEA AND, AND EMERGENCIES AND, UM, AND IN AREAS WHERE MAYBE IT'S NOT QUITE AN EMERGENCY, BUT POWER'S OUT IN THE PLACE, THOSE VEHICLES ARE NOW POWER, PORTABLE POWER PLANTS THAT WE CAN USE TO RUN EQUIPMENT OR TO, YOU KNOW,
UM, SO IT'S, IT, IT IS AN INTERESTING RE RESILIENCY ASPECT THAT WE HAVE NOW WITH ALL THOSE VEHICLES IN OUR FLEET.
IS THE CITY ABLE TO BUY USED VEHICLES? IS THERE LIKE, YES.
ONE, ONE, AT LEAST ONE OF THOSE, UM, LIGHTNINGS WAS A USED VEHICLE, UH, AT THE AIRPORT.
THEY'RE, THEY LIGHTNING AT THE AIRPORTS USED.
IS THERE A, I MEAN, IS THERE APOL, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT LIKE A POLICY AT ONE POINT, UM, VEHICLE POLICY AND PURCHASE PROCUREMENT POLICY.
IS THERE A WAY TO HIGHLIGHT USE EVS WITHIN THAT? I, I, I THINK IT'S, WE'RE WE LOOK FOR, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE TRY TO BE INNOVATIVE.
WE TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE NEED IS, AND IF THERE'S AN EV FOR IT, UM, THAT'S WHERE WE'D RATHER GO.
AND, BECAUSE PART OF IT IS, UM, WE DON'T HAVE IT, BUT THERE'S A COMPANY CALLED GEOTAB THAT DOES TELEMATICS ON VEHICLES.
THEY'RE VERY, THEY'RE A VERY BIG ONE, AND THEY FOUND A DEGRADATION OF BATTERIES.
UM, ON EVS IS LESS THAN 2% PER YEAR.
SO YOU HAVE A VEHICLE THAT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, 10 YEARS OLD AND IT STILL HAS MORE THAN, UM, YOU KNOW, 80% OF ITS OF ITS BATTERIES STILL LEFT AT THE END OF THAT TIME.
SO IT'S STILL PRETTY SIGNIFICANT, LIKE, I THINK, AND IN SOME OF THE USE CASES, UM, THEY TURN THE VEHICLES OVER MORE FREQUENTLY BECAUSE OF RELIABILITY, AND ESPECIALLY LIKE POLICE VEHICLES BECAUSE THEY IDLE SO OFTEN.
AND THAT'S NOT GREAT FOR, UM, FOR AN INTERNAL, INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE.
OH, I SHOULD MENTION TWO, TWO POLICE VEHICLES.
WE HAVE TWO, UM, BLAZERS THAT ARE IN THE POLICE, UM, FLEET.
SO THEY, THEY CAN GO ON, UM, THEY CAN DO ALL THE THINGS THAT THE POLICE NEEDS TO HAVE DONE WITH THEM.
BUT, SO YEAH, IT MIGHT START CHANGING OUR PARADIGM OF HOW OFTEN WE TURN OVER SOME OF THESE VEHICLES BECAUSE THERE'S LESS MAINTENANCE.
UM, THE BATTERIES ARE LASTING LONGER AND THERE'S LOWER NEED TO TURN THOSE VEHICLES OVER BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST MORE RELIABLE.
UM, SO THAT'S ALL PART OF THE CALCULATIONS THAT WE'RE DOING.
AND THE, THE CHARGING IS MOSTLY LEVEL TWOS OR MM-HMM
THE WATERFIELD OFFICE HAS A DC FAST CHARGER, AND I THINK IN A PINCH THEY MIGHT GO TO SOME OF THE OTHER PUBLIC CHARGERS THAT ARE OUT THERE, BUT FOR THE MOST PART IT'S LEVEL TWO.
AT THE CORP YARD OR JUST AT THE VARIOUS? ALL OF 'EM.
AND, YOU KNOW, INCLUDING AT THE POLICE STATION, WE HAVE ONE OF THOSE, UM, EV ARC SOLAR CHARGERS.
SO IT'S GOT A, A SMALLISH BATTERY ON IT AND SOLAR PANELS ON TOP.
SO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE CHARGING SOME OF THE VEHICLES FROM SUNSHINE OUT THERE.
UM, NOT, IT'S NOT GRID CONNECTED IN ANY WAY.
IT'S, AND, AND WHEN WE MOVE FROM THAT FACILITY, THAT, THAT INFRASTRUCTURE COMES WITH US.
SO IT WAS A, IT WAS A PRETTY PRICEY, UM, GRANT FUNDED PRICE TAG UPFRONT, BUT IT'S AN INVESTMENT THAT WE GET INSTEAD
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OF IT JUST BEING SUNK IN THAT BUILDING, WE GET TO TAKE IT WITH US.SO THAT'S PRETTY EXCITING AS WELL.
AND I KNOW HUNDRED PERCENT POWER NOW HAS THEIR COMMUNITY CHARGE PROGRAM.
YOU CAN GET UP TO 15 CHARGER WORKPLACE CHARGERS.
SO I DUNNO IF WE'VE TAPPED OUT ON, WE, WE'VE USED THAT IN THE PAST.
AND UNFORTUNATELY OUR EASY CAPACITY'S GONE.
SO NOW IT'S PANEL UPGRADES AND SUCH, SO, OR MAYBE SMART PANELS.
THAT'S SOMETHING I'LL GET INTO IN STAFF COMMENTS.
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SO NOW WE CAN MOVE ON TO COMMISSION COMMENT.DURING COMMISSION COMMENT, MEMBERS ARE INVITED TO BRIEFLY SHARE UPDATES RELEVANT TO THIS COMMISSION, INCLUDING LIAISON REPORTS FROM OTHER CITY BODIES, AND MAKE REQUESTS, REQUESTS FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. DIALOGUE BETWEEN MEMBERS SHOULD BE LIMITED TO CLARIFYING QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS.
THERE WILL BE NO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.
WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO BEGIN? COMMISSION COMMENT? OKAY.
SO I'VE, I'VE MENTIONED A FEW THINGS ALREADY, BUT I THINK IT'LL GO IN A LITTLE MORE DETAIL.
UH, FIRST OFF, I, I JUST BOUGHT MY OWN IONI FIVE 'CAUSE I GOT TIRED OF DRIVING MY, MY GAS TRUCK F-150 AROUND TOWN, BUT I SAID, OKAY, I NEED TO CHANGE.
UM, AND THE, UM, THE E-BIKE REGULATIONS, I DID GO TO A, A, A MEETING THAT WAS IN UC, DAVIS WITH A, A GROUP WITH A BUNCH OF LAWYERS, BUT THERE'S LOBBYISTS, I BET I DIDN'T MEET A LOBBYIST.
AND WE ARE, THE STATE IS PUSHING.
UM, LOTS OF TALK IS ABOUT E-BIKE REGULATIONS IS HAPPENING NOW.
UM, AND IT'S COMING ALL THE WAY DOWN, AND IT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING WORLDWIDE.
I'M WATCHING WHAT'S GOING ON IN OTHER COUNTRIES, AND AUSTRALIA IS EVEN TAKING MORE STRINGENT STEPS THEN THAN WE HAVE ALREADY.
SO THERE'S ALL SORTS OF THINGS GOING ON WORLDWIDE IN THAT AREA.
UM, IN THE MIGRANT CARS, I'VE ACTUALLY PUT TOGETHER A POWERPOINT READY FOR A PRESENTATION.
SO IF WE EVER WANT TO HAVE, UH, I'D BE GLAD TO DELIVER THAT TO YOU GUYS IF YOU WANT.
OR I, I, I'LL TAKE IT, HOPEFULLY MAYBE AT THE FUTURE FEST.
BUT, UM, UH, I HAVE A POWERPOINT ON MICRO CARD, THE GLOBAL MARKET, AND WHAT'S GOING ON THERE, UH, TO UPDATE EVERYONE IN THE, UM, THERE IS A, UM, A WATERSHED, UM, AND A BASICALLY A, A TITLE, UM, UH, SLEW IN WATERSHED, PET OF MARSH EXHIBIT THAT'S GONNA BE AT THE MUSEUM, UM, APRIL 9TH, I THINK BRYNN IS, IS ACTUALLY WE WORKING TOGETHER ON THAT WITH A TEAM OF, THERE'S ABOUT SIX OR SEVEN OF US WORKING WITH THE MUSEUM, AND WE'RE PRODUCING, UH, A LOT OF THE EXHIBITS THAT'LL BE THERE.
AND THAT'LL RUN FOR ABOUT TWO MONTHS FROM APRIL THROUGH JUNE.
UM, UH, OTHER THINGS WOULD BE TIED WITH IT, UH, ALL ABOUT THE, UH, OUR WATERSHED AND THE, THE ACTUAL MARSH, THE WETLANDS, AND THE MARSH AND THE TIDAL SLEW GOING ON THERE.
AND, UM, AND I, I DID HAVE A, UM, A LITTLE DISCUSSION AT, AT ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEETINGS TWO OF 'EM AGO, ABOUT, UH, THE BRIDGE AND, AND RAISING AND LOWERING, UH, THE NEW BRIDGE AND WHETHER OR NOT WE REALLY NEED, UH, UM, UH, NAVIGATION, A NAVIGABLE RIVER.
AND, AND IT TURNS OUT, UM, TRADITIONALLY WE DON'T NEED THE, NEED IT FOR BOATING, BUT WE ABSOLUTELY NEED IT FOR DREDGING BECAUSE AGAIN, WITH THE SEDIMENT SOLUTIONS THAT AT ANOTHER MEETING I WENT WITH, UH, SFE, I DID PRODUCE THEIR REPORT, AND I ATTENDED THEIR, THEIR REPORT MEETING.
UM, UM, I'M LISTED THERE AS ONE OF THE, UH, CONSULTANTS, UH, FROM BEING A LOCAL SOURCE.
AND, UM, SO WE'RE GOING TO BE TRANSFORMING ALMOND MARSH AND SCHULLENBERGER PARK ARE GONNA BE COMPLETELY TRANSFORMED IN THE FUTURE, UH, TO BE, UM, UM, AREAS OF, UH, BUILDING UP.
SO THAT'S, UH, MORE PROTECTION FROM SEA LEVEL RISE.
AND THEN THERE'S OTHER THINGS WE CAN DO, UM, USING THAT AS A PILOT STUDY.
BUT WORKING WITH SAN FRANCISCO ESTRO INSTITUTE, UH, COMING DOWN THE ROAD, ALONG WITH THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS IS ALSO BOUGHT INTO IT, I UNDERSTAND.
AND SO OUR STAFF IS GONNA BE WORKING DOWN THE ROAD ON, ON THAT.
UM, SO THAT'S ALL FOR SEA LEVEL RISE ADAPTATION WORK, UH, COMING UP.
THEN IN THAT, IN THE HOUSING, UM, UH, GEN H CONTINUES TO PUSH.
THERE WAS A MEETING, AND BASICALLY THE SAME IDEA IS ABOUT INFILL.
SO LAND USE AND INFILL NEED TO BE DONE AND HOW TO SUPPORT THAT PROPERLY.
UM, AND SO KEEPING, UH, STREAM, STREAMLINING ALL THE PERMIT PROCESSES TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
UM, AND THEN I DID MENTION I DID GO DOWN TO THE PG E TO SAN RAMON, WHERE IT IS THE ENTIRE TWO THIRDS OF NORTHERN CALIFORNIA.
THIS, UH, TECHNOLOGY CENTER SERVES ALL OF TWO THIRDS OF CALIFORNIA, THE WHOLE NORTHERN PART.
AND IT IS A PRETTY AMAZING, UH, SO ACTUALLY IT'S LIKE A UNIVERSITY DOWN THERE.
UM, IT'S A PRETTY BIG OPERATION.
AND SO I WAS ABLE TO, UM, UH, TALK TO THE FOLKS THAT ARE DOING A LOT OF THE RESEARCH ON IT'S BIDIRECTIONAL, AS WELL AS HOW TO MAKE THAT ALL SYSTEM ALL WORK.
THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE LINES.
THERE'S NEW, UH, CABLES THAT THEY'RE BEING DE DEVELOPED THAT THEY'RE GOING ACROSS.
LIKE, UM, IF THERE'S A DISTANCE ACROSS, LET'S SAY A CANYON, THEY CAN ACTUALLY HAVE A A AN UPSTAIRS UP,
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UP CABLE UP, UP ABOVE GROUND THAT USED TO BE BELOW GROUND, BUT NOW THEY'RE FIGURED OUT IT'S MUCH HEAVIER, BUT THEY CAN GET IT UP, UP, UP ABOVE GROUND NOW.UM, AND, AND THOSE PLACES VERY EXPENSIVE.
IT'S A MILLION DOLLARS PER MILE JUST FOR THE CABLE ITSELF, COST, UH, TO DO THAT.
BUT THAT'S GONNA GO IN CERTAIN PLACES, AND THEY'RE UPGRADING SEVERAL OF THEIR, UM, OF THE, THE, THE SYSTEM TO MAKE IT MORE ROBUST SO THAT THE DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM COMING TO US AND FOR WILDFIRE PROTECTION.
UM, THERE'S ALSO THE COMPUTER, THEY'RE USING AI PROGRAMS FOR WILDFIRE PROTECTION.
SO THAT, UM, AND THIS COMES THROUGH THE HAZARD CENTER, AND THERE'S A, A WALL, A ROOM THIS SIZE WITH A WHOLE PANEL OF TVS UP THERE MONITORING, UM, THE HAZARDS ACROSS THE ENTIRE STATE AND, AND EXPANDING OUT EVEN FURTHER THAN THAT.
UM, AND THAT HAZARD CENTER WITH, WITH 20 PEOPLE HIRED WATCHING 24 7, UM, FOR ALL THE POSSIBILITIES THAT MIGHT BE A PROBLEM, UM, OF TREES FALLING ON LINES OR WHETHER IT BE, UH, FIRE OR EARTHQUAKE, WHATEVER.
SO, AND THEY'RE COORDINATED WITH ALL OF THE, UM, OTHER HAZARD, UM, RELATED PEOPLE, POLICE AND FIRE, AND ANYBODY ELSE THAT'S DEALING WITH HAZARDS.
UM, AND THEY'RE COORDINATING WITH THAT.
SO THEY'RE INTEGRATED INTO OUR ENTIRE CALIFORNIA SYSTEM.
UM, AND SO THEY'RE USING AI TO HELP EVALUATE SITUATIONS, AND THEY'RE, UM, AND ALSO THEY'RE PUTTING UP BOXES NOW ON POLES, UM, SO THAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY TELL WITHIN POLL TO POLL TYPE THINGS, OKAY, THERE'S HAZARDS HAPPENING, AND THEN THEY CAN SHUT DOWN SHORT DISTANCES INSTEAD OF SHUTTING DOWN AN ENTIRE COUNTY, WHICH IS WHAT THEY USED TO DO, THEY CAN NOW SHUT DOWN SECTIONS OF LINE, UH, ON THAT.
SO THAT'S SOME OF THE RESEARCH THAT'S GOING ON NOW, UH, WITH PG E.
SO THERE'S A HUGE EFFORT THAT THEY'RE PUTTING INTO, UH, UM, UH, WILDFIRE SAFETY ON THAT END.
SO JUST MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S AWARE OF THAT, AS WELL AS THE BI-DIRECTIONAL.
UM, AND THEN, UM, AND THEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION WAS ABOUT, UH, UH, A KEY THING THAT THEY NEED TO WORK ON IS, IS BUILDING UP WITHIN CITIES, WITHIN THE CITIES STILL, THE OLD STRUCTURE IS STILL THERE.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE FOCUSED IN ON DISTRIBUTION.
THE BIG NE 'CAUSE WILDFIRES ON THE BIG DISTRIBUTION NETWORK, BUT WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO, UH, LIKE SINCE THE COFFEE PARK AND OTHER PLACES, THE ACTUAL CITY INFRASTRUCTURE IS, IS STILL NEEDS A LOT MORE WORK.
SO ANYWAY, THAT, THAT'S UPCOMING RESEARCH THEY NEED TO DO IN US WORKING WITH CITIES TO GET OUR LOCAL DISTRIBUTION NETWORK IMPROVED OVER TIME.
BUT, UM, THAT MIGHT BE MICRO GRIDS OR SOMETHING ELSE, BUT THAT'S GONNA BE A NEW AREA OF RESEARCH COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE TO HELP US ALL OUT, MAKE THE NEXT STEPS.
SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS I'VE, ANYWAY, THOSE ARE THE THINGS I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE LAST MONTH OR TWO.
I MENTIONED THE CITY SCHOOLS CLIMATE GROUP.
UM, SO THEY DID, UH, TWO MEETINGS AGO DISCUSS THEIR FACILITIES IMPROVEMENT, UH, PROGRAM, WHICH IS BOND FUNDED.
UM, ONE POTENTIAL AREA OF SUPPORT THAT THIS BODY COULD, UH, HELP WITH IS, UM, WHILE THE SCHOOLS AND THE SCHOOL BOARD HAD A DESIRE TO SEE MORE ELECTRIC WORK AND ELECTRIC HVAC SYSTEMS SPECIFICALLY, THERE WAS SOMEWHAT OF A DISCONNECT BY THE CONTRACTOR.
AND SO THEY HAD PROPOSED BASICALLY REPLACING THE EXISTING HVAC EQUIPMENT WITH, LIKE, FOR LIKE, EQUIPMENT OF GAS UNITS.
AND SO THERE WAS A BRIEF DISCUSSION AT THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING ON THE TOPIC AND A DESIRE BY THE BOARD TO SEE MORE, UM, ELECTRIC EQUIPMENT.
HOWEVER, THE BOARD ACKNOWLEDGED, LIKE, THIS IS NOT THEIR AREA OF EXPERTISE.
UM, AND THE CONTRACTOR IS SORT OF, YOU KNOW, FAMILIAR WITH WHAT THEY'VE DONE HISTORICALLY.
AND SO THEY WERE SOMEWHAT IN NEED OF EXPERTISE AND ADDITIONAL VOICES TO UPLAY UPLIFT THE NEED AND BENEFIT OF, UM, REPLACEMENTS WITH HVAC SYSTEMS. SO, UM, THAT CONVERSATION IS ONGOING, AND I THINK THERE WILL BE A STUDY SESSION AT SOME POINT.
AND SO ONCE MORE INFORMATION COMES OUT, THAT STUDY SESSION, I'LL ASK EVERYONE HERE, OR TO THE EXTENT YOU COULD MAKE IT, TO COME AND SPEAK ON THAT TOPIC.
UM, SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, VERY RELEVANT AND TIMELY, AND I THINK, UM, A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO COLLABORATE WITH THAT GROUP.
OH, AND I FORGOT ONE, ONE MORE THING THAT I, UM, MISSED.
UM, I WAS PART OF A MOVIE PRODUCTION BY HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS, UH, THREE SCHOOLS FROM ALL OVER THE BAY AREA GOT TOGETHER COORDINATED.
AND IT'S ABOUT CLIMATE ACTION AND WHAT WE CAN DO INDIVIDUALLY IN OUR HOMES.
UM, SO I'M, I'M 15 MINUTES OF THE MOVIE I'M INTERVIEWED SHOWING YOU AT MY HOUSE, AND THE PREMIERE OF THE MOVIE IS GONNA BE IN NAPA, UM, IN ABOUT TWO WEEKS, I THINK ON THE 28TH.
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UM, SO I'M GOING DOWN TO AT NAPA HIGH SCHOOL, AND THAT'S WHERE THE PREMIER IS, WHERE THE STUDENTS FROM NAPA ACTUALLY HELP PRODUCE THE MOVIE.SO ANYWAY, I'M, I'M IN THE MOVIE AND I'LL BE THERE, UH, DOING THE PRESENTATION WITH OUR PREMIER.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO ADD TO THE HVAC THING, UM, THAT MY DAUGHTER GOES TO CREDO HIGH SCHOOL, WHICH IS IN ROANOKE PARK.
BUT THE REASON THAT'S RELEVANT IS THAT SCHOOL WAS CANCELED TODAY BECAUSE THEY HAD A LEAK IN THEIR HVAC SYSTEM, AND SO THEY LOST $20,000 WORTH OF FUNDING IN A YEAR THAT THEY REALLY NEED $20,000 WORTH OF FUNDING BECAUSE THERE WERE NO STUDENTS IN SEATS TODAY.
SO, ONE MORE REASON TO NOT DO GAS, HVAC, UH, I JUST HAVE A QUICK, UH, UH, PROFESSIONAL, UH, UPDATE.
SO, UH, A PROGRAM THAT I WORKED ON FOR, UH, A WHILE CALLED RISE HOMES, WHICH WILL INCENTIVIZE, UH, THE REBUILDING OF HOMES THAT WERE, UH, DESTROYED BY NATURAL DISASTER, UH, TO REBUILD THEM AS ALL ELECTRIC, UH, FINALLY LAUNCHED.
SO THAT IS A STATEWIDE PROGRAM AVAILABLE IN ALL OF THE, UH, INVESTOR OWNED UTILITY TERRITORIES.
AND, UH, TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF SOME OF THE REBATES, YOU CAN GET, UH, $10,000 JUST FOR BUILDING ALL ELECTRIC, $5,000 FOR A BATTERY SYSTEM, UH, AN ADDITIONAL $3,000 FOR USING, UH, UH, BASICALLY CARBON DIOXIDE AS YOUR REFRIGERANT AND YOUR HEAT PUMP WATER HEATER.
YOU CAN GET 20 GRAND FOR DOING A PASSIVE HOUSE, AND THEN YOU CAN MULTIPLY ALL OF THAT BY ONE AND A HALF TIMES IF YOU ARE, UH, ANY, ANY KIND OF LIKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR LOW INCOME HOUSING.
SO IT'S A LOT OF MONEY THAT THE, THE STATE IS PUMPING INTO BUILDING ALL ELECTRIC HOMES IN AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN, UH, AFFECTED BY NATURAL DISASTER.
SO I WAS VERY PROUD TO SEE THAT LAUNCH.
IT'S, UM, UH, DEVELOPED, UH, A LOT OF THE TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PROGRAM.
UH, AND THEN I HAVE NOW MOVED ON TO THE EQUITABLE BUILDING DECARBONIZATION PROGRAM, WHICH IS ANOTHER STATEWIDE PROGRAM TO, UH, GO INTO COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE BEEN, UH, UNDER-RESOURCED AND JUST GO DIRECT INSTALL ELECTRIFICATION FOR, UH, FOR PEOPLE'S HOMES, JUST APARTMENT BUILDINGS, MOBILE HOMES, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
IT IS, YOU DON'T HAVE TO OWN THE HOME.
YOU CAN BE A RENTER, AND WE WILL JUST GO IN AND JUST INSTALL HEAT PUMP WATER HEATERS, AND HEAT PUMP, HVAC INSULATION, UH, ALL KINDS OF ENERGY EFFICIENCY MEASURES.
IT'S JUST GETTING LAUNCHED RIGHT NOW.
UH, AND HAPPY TO, TO, IF ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE PROGRAMS, HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
WHERE IS THE MONEY COMING FROM? SO FOR THE, UH, THE RISE HOMES, THAT'S A-C-P-U-C FUNDED PROGRAM.
AND THEN THE, UH, EQUITABLE DECARBONIZATION PRO EQUITABLE BUILDING DECARBONIZATION OR EBD, THAT IS, UH, CEC AND ACTUALLY, UH, DOE.
SO FEDERAL FUNDING, IF YOU BELIEVE IT, IT GOT OUT THE DOOR
UH, SO YEAH, VERY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF MONEY FOR BOTH PROGRAMS. YEAH.
UM, I, I WAS JUST GONNA GIVE A LITTLE UPDATE ON THE WORKING GROUPS THAT ARE HAPPENING THROUGH THE, UM, UH, ROUNDTABLE, THE CLIMATE ROUNDTABLE THAT, UM, SO TO ORIENT PEOPLE, THE ROUNDTABLE IS, UM, BASICALLY ALL DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS.
SO THE CITY HAS PARTICIPANTS, UM, UH, NONPROFITS IN PETALUMA HAVE PARTICIPANTS, BUSINESSES HAVE PARTICIPANTS, UM, LIKE RECOLOGY, UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, JUST REGULAR, REGULAR OLD PEOPLE ARE PARTICIPANTS.
AND, UM, THESE ARE WORKING GROUPS.
UM, THEY EACH HAVE A DIFFERENT TOPIC THAT ADDRESSES THE, UM, IMPLEMENTATION OF THE BLUEPRINT AND, UM, SUPPORTS IT IN SOME WAY, UM, THROUGH DIFFERENT ACTIONS.
AND, UM, THE ONE THAT I'M IN IS THE, IT HAS BEEN CALLED THE COMMUNICATIONS WORKING GROUP.
UM, WE ARE NOW CALLING OURSELVES THE ILLUMINATORS BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO ILLUMINATE THINGS THAT ARE, UM, GOING ON IN CLIMATE ACTION, UM, LOCALLY.
UM, AND SO WE'RE MEETING EVERY TWO WEEKS ON TUESDAYS, UM, ON ZOOM.
AND SO IF ANYBODY WANTS TO COME TO THAT, WE CAN, BUT BASICALLY OUR GOAL IS TO CONNECT, YOU KNOW, INDIVIDUAL SCHOOLS, BUSINESSES, UM, ORGANIZATIONS AND THE CITY SO THAT WE CAN BE A COLLABORATIVE MACHINE STRIVING TOWARDS COMMON GOALS.
UM, THE OTHER WORKING GROUP, OR ONE OTHER WORKING GROUP IS THE HABITAT WORKING GROUP, WHICH IS, UM, THE ONE THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER.
AND THEIR NEXT MEETING IS MARCH 25TH, UM, AT 5:00 PM IN CITY HALL RIGHT HERE.
UM, AND THEY'RE WORKING ON SUPPORTING HEALTHY SOILS, UM, NA, UM, UM, WHAT IS IT? NATIVE AND LOW WATER POLLINATOR PLANTS, LIKE GETTING THOSE OUT THERE.
UM, WORKING ON EDUCATING ABOUT BIODIVERSITY AND COORDINATING RESOURCES FOR COMMUNITY, UM, PARTICIPATION.
UM, THERE'S AN ENERGY WORKING GROUP, WHICH I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, UM,
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IF THEY HAVE MADE ANY PROGRESS ON THE EV CHARGER PERMIT SITUATION.I KNOW THEY WERE TRYING TO STREAMLINE THAT, BUT, UM, UH, SO FOR EVERYBODY ELSE THOUGH, UM, ENERGY WORKING GROUP IS MEETING ON ALSO MARCH 25TH, RIGHT? YEAH, MARCH 25TH AT THREE 30 HERE IN CITY HALL.
ALSO, ZOOM OPTION FOR THAT ONE.
UM, THEY'RE WORKING ON AN ENERGY ROADMAP.
UM, SO HOW ARE WE GONNA GET WHERE WE'RE GOING? UM, CONTRACTOR EDUCATION AND THEN PERMIT STREAMLINING.
DO, WOULD YOU MIND TALKING ABOUT THAT DURING STAFF COMMENT, THE PERMIT STREAMLINING IF, IF THERE IS ANY, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THERE'S NO NOTHING TO SAY THEN.
UM,
I HAVE TO LIKE, GO BACK AND TELL THIS GUY, WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T DO THIS JOB FOR WHAT I SAID.
NEW WORKING GROUPS, UM, THAT ARE JUST NOW FORMING, THERE'S A WASTE ONE ABOUT WASTE, UM, WHICH I THINK IS GREAT.
UM, THEY'RE COLLABORATING WITH THE JUNIOR HIGH AND THE HIGH SCHOOL JUNIOR HIGHS AND HIGH SCHOOLS DOING A CHALLENGE.
AND THEN THERE'S A, A TRANSIT SLASH TRANSPORTATION GROUP THAT IS TBD.
AND SO IT'S, IT'S SO NEW THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE THEIR GOALS YET.
WOULD THIS BE THE APPROPRIATE TIME, PATRICK, TO DO A SHORT INTRO? THAT SURE.
UM, EXCITED TO JOIN YOU ALL HERE ON THE COMMISSION.
UM, A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ABOUT, ABOUT ME.
UM, I HAVE, UM, CLOSER TO THE MIC, SO YEAH, SURE.
UM, I HAVE, UH, MY, MY CAREER HAS BEEN FOCUSED IN SUSTAINABILITY AND ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENCE.
UM, SO MY GRADUATE RESEARCH FOCUSED ON ECOSYSTEM SCIENCE AND SPECIFICALLY URBAN WATER, UM, AND MANAGING NUTRIENTS AND POLLUTANTS AND URBAN AND AG INFLUENCED STREAMS AND RIVERS.
UM, I'VE SINCE WORKED IN SUSTAINABILITY OFFICES AND IN SUSTAINABLE SEAFOOD FOR A FEW YEARS.
UM, AND I CURRENTLY WORK FOR A PRIVATE FOUNDATION DOING GRANT MANAGEMENT AND STRATEGIC PLANNING.
UM, AND I ALSO VOLUNTEER LOCALLY, BOTH AS THE WATER QUALITY PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE PETALUMA WETLANDS ALLIANCE, UH, AND ALSO VOLUNTEER AS AN ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR ON THE BOARD OF THE SONOMA RCD.
AND, UH, REALLY EXCITED TO BE HERE AND CONTRIBUTE MORE TO, UM, MY COMMUNITY AND MY HOME.
UH, MORE JUST A PROFESSIONAL UPDATE FOR MYSELF.
LAST TUESDAY, I WAS ABLE TO DEFEND MY, UH, CAPSTONE PROJECT FOR MY MASTER'S PROGRAM.
UH, AND I COULD SAY THAT IT JUST LANDED JUST PERFECTLY, UH, BEING ABLE TO DEFEND IT SUCCESSFULLY, UH, AND THEN ALSO BEGIN, UH, MY SHORT-LIVED COMMISSION TIME HERE WITH, UH, WITH YOU GUYS.
UM, SO I GOT MY MASTER'S IN PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION, AND IT'S, UH, IT'S NICE TO BE ABLE TO APPLY THE THINGS THAT I LEARNED AND, UH, SUPPORT MY COMMUNITY WHEREVER I CAN.
I WORK IN CITY GOVERNMENT, UM, SO IT'S NICE TO BE ON THE OTHER SIDE MM-HMM
UH, AND BE ABLE TO PRACTICE THIS.
SO, UM, IF YOU'D LIKE TO CHAT AND GET COFFEE, I'D LOVE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT, UH, PETALUMA AND I, I, I JUST WANNA SAY, UH, THANK YOU TO STAFF FOR THE WARM WELCOME.
UH, ALL THE EMAILS MADE ME FEEL, UH, NICE AND JOYFUL TO COME IN TODAY.
UH, AND ALSO TO THE MAYOR WHO REACHED OUT AND OFFERED, UH, HI, HIS TIME TO SIT DOWN AND CHAT.
AND, UH, TELL ME ABOUT PETALUMA'S HISTORY.
SO, UH, THANK YOU TO EVERYONE.
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CAN MOVE ON TO STAFF COMMENTS DURING STAFF COMMENTS.STAFF WILL PROVIDE BRIEF UPDATES RELEVANT TO THIS COMMISSION.
DIALOGUE BETWEEN MEMBERS AND STAFF SHOULD BE LIMITED TO CLARIFYING QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS, AND THERE SHOULD BE NO DIALOGUE BETWEEN MEMBERS.
THERE WILL BE NO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.
I HAVE TWO VERY SHORT ONES, AND I THINK DEB HAS SOME AS WELL.
UM, THE, THE FIRST ONE IS VERY, VERY SHORT.
I WAS GONNA MENTION THE TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE AND THE URBAN FOREST MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT'S GOING TO COUNCIL NEXT MONDAY.
UM, THE STAFF REPORTS, BUT THE URBAN FORCE MANAGEMENT ONE IS DEFINITELY ONLINE NOW.
I THINK THE, UM, TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE, UM, WAS DOING A LATE SUBMISSION BECAUSE IT LITERALLY WAS LIKE THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON TUESDAY, AND WE HAD TO REFLECT THEIR, UH, INPUT AT THAT POINT.
BUT IF, IF IT'S NOT UP THERE NOW, IT'LL BE UP VERY, VERY SHORTLY.
SO, UM, THAT'S DEFINITELY RELATED TO OUR UF ONE, THE URBAN FOREST, UM, MANAGEMENT PLAN, UH, BLUEPRINT ITEM.
SO THAT'S VERY NICE TO SEE AN ITEM THAT'S DIRECTLY GAINED, ADDRESSED, UM, AS WAS SUGGESTED BY THE BLUEPRINT.
THE OTHER ONE IS, UM, I HEARD ABOUT, UH, SO I'M ATTENDING THESE, UM, BAY AREA AIR QUALITY MANAGEMENT
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DISTRICTS MEETINGS ABOUT THE FURNACE AND WATER HEATER, THE GAS, UH, PHASE OUTS FROM THOSE, SO WE WON'T BE ABLE TO PURCHASE THOSE AND INSTALL THEM IN THE BAY AREA.UM, MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, UM, JURISDICTION IN, IN THE COMING YEARS.
AND AT ONE OF THOSE, PG E IS ATTENDING IT, AND THEY MENTIONED THE SMART PANEL UPGRADE PROGRAM, UM, WHICH CAUGHT MY, PIQUED MY INTEREST.
UH, APPARENTLY THEY'RE COMING OUT WITH A PROGRAM TO, UM, PROVIDE INCENTIVES FOR PEOPLE.
IT'S A PILOT PROJECT FOR PEOPLE TO OPT IN.
AND THIS IS RELEVANT IN THAT WE KNOW THAT, UM, THE PANELS FOR SOME OF THE EXISTING BUILDINGS ARE NOT SUFFICIENT TO DO THE HEAT PUMP AND THE WA WATER HEATER AND THE EV CHARGER ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
BUT WITH SMART PANELS, THE OVERALL CAPACITY OF THOSE PANELS CAN, CAN MANAGE THOSE LOADS AND TURN THINGS OFF AS NEEDED, EVEN IF YOU HAVE A, A SMALLER, UH, SERVICE LIKE IN SOME OF THE OLD BUILDINGS.
SO THAT COULD POTENTIALLY SAVE PEOPLE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OF THAT UPGRADE AND ALLOW THEM TO DECARBONIZE QUICKER.
SO I'M LEARNING MORE ABOUT THAT SMART PANEL UPGRADE PROGRAM.
I, I LOOKED ON THEIR WEBSITE AND I DIDN'T REALLY SEE ANY INFORMATION, SO I THINK IT'S VERY NEW TO THEM.
UM, BUT I'M IN TOUCH WITH THE FOLKS THAT ARE WITH, AT PG E THAT ARE KICKING THAT PROGRAM OFF, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO LEARNING MORE ABOUT THAT PROGRAM AND SHARING IT WITH EVERYBODY.
UM, THEY, THEY MENTIONED ONE OF THEIR GOALS WAS TO GET PEOPLE TO SUBSCRIBE TO THAT PROGRAM AND GET SOME PILOT, AND I SAID, MY GOAL IS TO SEND THOSE PEOPLE TO YOU.
SO, UM, HOPE, HOPE TO WORK WITH THEM ON THAT ONE.
UM, SO THAT'S ALL MY COMMENTS AND UNLESS THERE'S QUESTIONS FROM BOOST, IS THAT IT? IT MAY BE, WHEN I LOOKED IT UP, I DIDN'T SEE AN ACTUAL NAME FOR IT.
UM, IT'S A PG E PROGRAM FUNDED BY THE CPUC, I BELIEVE.
UM, I'LL, I'LL GIVE MORE DETAILS.
I'VE, I'VE, I'M FINALLY IN TOUCH WITH THE STAFF MEMBERS THERE THAT ARE WORKING ON THAT.
SO WHEN I LEARN MORE, I WILL SHARE MORE.
I THINK I'LL START, UH, BY, NOT SURE IF I SHOULD START.
SO I'LL, I'LL JUST TAG ONTO, UH, START WITH WHAT AMY, UH, TALKED ABOUT WITH THE CLIMATE ACTION ROUNDTABLE.
WE HAD, UH, OVER 50, AS AMY MENTIONED, NONPROFIT GOVERNMENT PARTNERS, UH, AND ACTIVE.
THE, THE PERSON WHO WAS HERE EARLIER WAS A BLOCK LEADER WHO IS RETIRED AND, UH, ORGANIZED HER WHOLE BLOCK AND NOW IS READY FOR THE NEXT THING TO DO.
SO THAT'S WHY SHE WAS HERE TONIGHT, WAS SHE WAS AT THE ROUND, AT THE ROUND TABLE AND IS NOW TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE SHE WANTS TO PLUG IN TO HELP.
SO THAT'S WHAT THESE ROUND TABLES ARE DESIGNED TO DO THAT BREAK OUT THEN INTO WORKING GROUPS.
UH, THE, TO ANSWER, AMY, YOUR QUESTION THAT THE ELECTRIFICATION WORKING GROUP, THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE NEXT ONE.
SO THEY WILL BE WORKING ON, UH, THOSE ELEMENT, THE THREE ELEMENTS YOU OUTLINED, UH, AND REALLY DIGGING INTO THAT, UH, PERMIT STREAMLINING POTENTIAL.
AND, UM, AND SO PART OF THAT LEADING UP TO, UH, THAT MEETING, BEAR WITH ME, I DON'T NORMALLY SHARE, UH, THE COORDINATED ONE PIECE THAT, UM, UH, THE CHAIR, UH, TO EMPHASIZE WHAT THAT COMMUNICATION WORKING GROUP IS DOING IS IT'S ACTUALLY COORDINATING THE COMMUNICATIONS AND, AND BEHAVIOR CHANGE.
PEOPLE NEED TO HEAR IT THREE TIMES, THREE DIFFERENT WAYS.
UH, THIS IS REALLY WHAT THAT GROUP IS DOING SO THAT IT'S NOT JUST WE HAVE A CALENDAR, BUT THAT WE WILL ACTUALLY HAVE, UH, COORDINATED MESSAGING THROUGH ALL OF THE PARTNERS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE EVERYONE SHARING WHEN THINGS ARE HAPPENING AS IT RELATES TO CLIMATE ACTION.
SO THAT'S, UH, WHERE THAT'S GOING.
I I TAKE YOU TO THE FRONT PAGE SO THAT YOU GO TO CITY OF PETALUMA.ORG.
UM, SORRY, IT'S SPINNING THROUGH FASTER THAN IT NORMALLY DOES.
WHAT I WANTED TO DO IS HIGHLIGHT DOWN HERE IS OUR, UH, CLIMATE, UH, PAGE IS OVER HERE.
UM, THIS IS WHAT IS, UH, HAPPENING, UH, IS WHAT THE CITY IS DOING, WHAT, UH, YOU CAN DO AS A RESIDENT, WHAT BUSINESS CAN DO, AND WHAT SCHOOLS CAN DO.
UM, THIS IS REALLY WHERE, AS AMY WAS NOTING, UM, I'M TRYING TO TRACK ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THE CITY IS DOING.
UM, AND IT JUST KEEPS SCROLLING THROUGH ALL THE VARIOUS ELEMENTS OF WHAT THE CITY HAS BEEN, UH, UP TO AS IT RELATES TO THE CLIMATE ACTIONS THAT WE HAVE BEEN UNDERTAKING.
AND THERE'S EVEN MORE THAT ARE ON HERE.
I'M, I'M WORKING WITH OUR, UH, UH, COMMUNICATIONS TEAM.
I HAVE TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO OVER CROSS REFERENCE BECAUSE IT GETS A LITTLE COMPLICATED ON WEBSITE PAGES.
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I'M, I'MUM, UH, IN TERMS OF CROSS-REFERENCING THINGS ACROSS WAYS.
IN PARTICULAR, WHAT HAPPENS IS THE THINGS THAT ARE ON THE, WHAT THE CITY IS DOING ALSO AFFECT WHAT THE COMMUNITY CAN DO.
UM, AND, UH, THAT IS WHERE ONE OF THE BIGGEST ACTIONS THAT'S COMING FORTH, UM, IS OUR FIFTH ANNUAL, UH, UH, FUTURE FEST IS MAY 3RD.
UH, AND THE INFORMATION IS HERE.
THIS IS, AND THIS IS THE ONE THAT'S GONNA GET BUILT OUT WITH THE HELP OF THE WORKING GROUPS, THE HABITAT WORKING GROUP, UM, THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT.
THEY'RE GONNA HAVE ONE THAT'S GONNA, THOSE RECIPES FOR WHAT PEOPLE CAN DO.
SO THAT'S LEVERAGING OUR EXISTING COMMUNITY PARTNER RESOURCES SO THAT IT'S NOT JUST ONE PLACE THAT YOU GO, ONE ORGANIZATION.
IT'S HIGHLIGHTING ALL THE VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS.
SO THIS IS GONNA, THIS IS ALL GROWING AND BE BUILDING OUT.
UM, AND, UH, SO THIS IS ONE OF THE NEWEST PAGES.
THE BUSINESS ONE IS THE NEXT ONE THAT'S COMING.
UM, WE HAVE A COHORT, UH, FOR DOING GREEN BUSINESS CERTIFICATION, WHICH IS A STATEWIDE NETWORK.
UH, AND THERE IS A COHORT WITH THE SUPPORT OF COOL PETALUMA THAT IS, UH, UH, THERE ARE 10 BUSINESSES, THE CITY HALL BEING ONE OF THEM, TO GET CERTIFIED AS A, UH, GREEN BUSINESS.
THAT IS THE TYPE OF THINGS THAT WE'LL START SHOWING UP HERE UNDER WHAT BUSINESSES CAN DO AND THEN WHAT THE SCHOOLS CAN DO.
UM, SPEAKING TO WHAT, UH, COMMISSIONER PETERS TALKED ABOUT IS THE, RIGHT NOW THERE ARE THREE ACTUAL SCHOOL DISTRICTS WITHIN PETALUMA CITY, UM, UH, LIMITS.
BUT THE ONE THAT HAS THE ACTIONS HAPPENING IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL LITERACY AT, UH, PETALUMA CITY SCHOOLS.
UH, AND SO THIS IS ALL, THEN THE NEXT PIECE IS THERE IS A CLIMATE ACTION CALENDAR.
THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS BEEN AN ISSUE THROUGHOUT, UM, THE CITY IS UNDERSTANDING WHERE IN ONE PLACE YOU CAN GO TO FIND OUT WHAT'S HAPPENING AS IT RELATES TO CLIMATE ACTION.
UM, ALL OF OUR PARTNERS, UH, INFORMATION IS ON HERE.
AND SOME, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT A FEW THINGS THAT ARE COMING FOR ALL OF YOU TO NOTE.
LIKE THE LAKEVILLE CORRIDOR IMPROVEMENT PROJECT THAT IS BEING DONE BY A-C-T-C-A THAT'S ON HERE.
UM, WE HAVE, UH, TREE PLANTINGS, WE HAVE THE BAY RAN EVENTS LIKE THE, THE IDEA IS THAT THERE, ALL THE INFORMATION AROUND CLIMATE ACTIONS IS IN ONE PLACE.
THIS IS JUST ONE SMALL STEP AS THAT COORDINATED CLIMATE, UH, CAMPAIGN WILL GET ROLLING, THAT THE, UH, THE CHAIR REFERENCED IN THE COMMUNICATIONS IS COORDINATING THIS.
SO ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS ARE SHARING ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS AT COORDINATED EFFORTS.
SO IN THE SPRING, THEY'LL BE TALKING ABOUT HABITATS OR BIKE MONTH.
THIS IS THE CONVERSATION THAT NEEDS TO BE FIGURED OUT, BUT SO THAT THE WATER DEPARTMENT SENDS OUT SOMETHING THAT HAS A LITTLE LINK THAT SAYS, UH, A, A BANNER OF THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING THIS MONTH.
UH, OR THE BIKE, THE BUSES ALL HAVE A, IT'S ALL THE IDEA IS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO AIM TO COORDINATE OUR MESSAGING SO THAT IT'S NOT IN THE SHOTGUN APPROACH.
THAT IT'S, UH, AN ORGANIZED, VERY CLEAR THAT WE'RE ALL WORKING ON SOMETHING.
AND THAT'S WHERE THOSE METRICS FIT IN AND ALL THOSE DIFFERENT TYPES OF PIECES.
UH, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE BUILDING TOWARDS.
UM, AND SO DO CHECK IT FOR YOUR THINGS.
AND IF YOU HAVE, UH, EVENTS THAT YOU KNOW THAT NEED TO BE ON THERE, JUST SEND ME A NOTE.
UM, UH, I WILL ALSO HIGHLIGHT THAT, UM, SOME THINGS THAT ARE COMING THAT WE WILL NOT, 'CAUSE WE MEET EVERY OTHER MONTH, UM, MAY IS BIKE MONTH.
SO BIKE TO WORK DAY, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE AND BIKE TO SCHOOL DAY.
THOSE THINGS ARE ON YOUR CALENDAR.
UM, MAY AGAIN, FUTURE FEST IS MAY 3RD EARTH DAY.
ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I PUT ON YOUR, UH, EVERYONE'S, UH, SEAT.
UH, THERE IS GOING TO BE A COMMUNITY EARTH DAY, UH, EVENT HERE AT, UH, CITY HALL TO PLANT 500, UH, UH, NATIVE AND LOW WATER PLANTS OUT FRONT TO COMPLETE THE, UH, UH, WHAT, WHAT USED TO BE GRASS IS NOW MULCHED WITH RAIN CATCHMENT GARDENS.
UH, LAST YEAR WE, UH, PLANTED THE WALKWAY.
NOW WE'RE DOING THE WHOLE FRONT LAWN.
WE ARE INVITING THE PUBLIC, UM, WITH DAILY ACTS, UH, TO PLANT ALL OF THESE PLANTS.
SO, UH, HIGHLY ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT.
IT'S A CITY, UH, STAFF WILL BE PARTICIPATING AS MUCH AS WE CAN AND THE COMMUNITY.
UM, AND SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT SHOW UP ON THERE.
UM, I WAS ALSO GONNA JUST HIGHLIGHT MONDAY HAPPENS TO BE A VERY RICH CLIMATE ACTION CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
UH, SO JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THOSE AT THE INTEGRATED WATER MASTER PLAN AND RECYCLED FACILITIES PRESENTATION IS HAPPENING, AND THAT GETS A LITTLE BIT INTO THE, UH, B2B, UH, A LITTLE BIT, BUT NOT REALLY.
UM, PETALUMA CITY SCHOOLS, THEIR TASK FORCE MEETING, UH,
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IS NEXT THURSDAY, MARCH 19TH FROM FOUR TO FIVE 30.AND THAT, IF YOU ARE ALL INVITED, UH, BEN, THIS IS HOW BEN, UH, STARTED.
COMMISSIONER PETERS STARTED GOING.
UH, SO, UH, HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT.
UM, ALSO WANTED TO JUST SHARE A FEW OTHER, I'M GONNA JUST STOP SHARING, UM, UH, THINGS THAT DID TODAY WAS A, A FUN DAY OF FIRST AS IT RELATES TO WHAT, UM, I'VE BEEN GETTING INVOLVED WITH.
UM, WE ARE PART OF THE CALIFORNIA GLOBAL BIODIVERSITY, UH, NETWORK NOW BECAUSE OF POINT BLUE.
UH, WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO, ONE OF THE BASIC METRICS THAT WE NEED TO DO IS SET UP A BIODIVERSITY INDEX, UH, AND OR DO A BIODIVERSITY INDEX.
WE'RE NOT SETTING ONE UP, BUT TRY, IT'S A COMMUNITY BASED ONE, AND THAT'S WHAT PART OF WHAT THAT HABITAT, UH, WORKING GROUP IS WORKING ON.
AND, UH, POINT BLUE, UH, HAS INVITED, UH, ME TO PARTICIPATE IN THE CALIFORNIA GLOBAL BIODIVERSITY ALLIANCE.
AND THAT HAP THE KICKOFF WAS TODAY.
UH, AND, UH, SO THAT'S GONNA BE A FUN GROUP TO BE A PART OF, JUST TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE CAN, UH, LEVERAGE OUR WORK AND OTHERS, UH, IN THIS, UH, PART OF THE CLIMATE, UH, CRISIS SOLUTIONS THAT WE CAN BE A PART OF.
THE OTHER THING IS, IS THAT WE ARE PARTICIPATE.
WE WERE INVITED TO PARTICIPATE IN A GROUP CALLED, UH, CLIMATE ACTION ACTION PATHFINDERS.
IT IS A GROUP, UH, OF, UH, INCLUDES ITHACA, THE CITY OF ITHACA, UH, MEMPHIS, TENNESSEE, EL PASO, UH, GROUP, UH, DADE COUNTY, WHICH IS WISCONSIN, UH, NEAR MADISON.
THESE ARE ALL GROUPS THAT THESE, THIS GROUP OF, UM, CON THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT CONSULTANTS.
IT'S A NONPROFIT GROUP OF RETIRED, UH, PROFESSORS FROM GROUPS LIKE MIT AND HARVARD THAT HAVE IDENTIFIED CITIES THAT ARE DOING SOMETHING ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT IS THEY SEE AS REPLICABLE.
UH, AND TODAY WAS THE LAUNCH OF THAT.
AND, UH, IT, THE CITY AND COOL PETALUMA.
SO MYSELF AND COOL PETALUMA ARE PARTICIPATING IN THAT, REPRESENTING WHAT IT'S LIKE TO DO COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND TO HAVE, UH, THE, THE WAY THAT WE'VE DONE OUR BLUEPRINT AND THE ACTIONS, AND THEN ALSO SHARING THE CHALLENGES THAT ARE AFOOT AS IT RELATES TO THIS WORK.
AND THIS IS WHERE I CAN, UH, UH, DEFINITIVELY SAY THAT WE ALL SHARE SIMILAR CHALLENGES AS THAT WE ALL HAVE REALLY STRONG GOALS.
AND TRYING TO MEET THOSE GOALS IN A, IN A, UH, LI WITH LIMITED FINANCES AND CAPACITY, UH, TODAY WAS MY REALIZATION, LIKE ON THE NATIONAL LEVEL THAT, WOW, OKAY, WE'RE NOT ALONE
SO, UM, UH, I THINK THAT'S THE END OF, UH, MY UPDATES.
SO THANK YOU ALL AND, UH, CHECK OUT THE WEBSITE.
UM, YEAH, WHEN PATRICK, UH, MENTIONED THE, UM, THE RULES THAT THE HEAT PUMPS AND, UH, NO MORE GAS FURNACES OR, UH, GAS WATER HEATERS AFTER 2030.
UM, AND SO EVERYBODY'S GOTTA MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION AT THIS POINT.
BUT ALSO THERE'S ALSO THE, UH, A SIMILAR TYPE OF LAW.
THERE'S NO, UM, GAS POWERED LAWNMOWERS, ANY LAWN AND EQUIPMENT, ANYTHING THAT'S BEING USED FOR LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE.
UM, AND ANYTHING LESS THAN LIKE A 25, UH, 125 CC.
EVERYTHING NOW FOR, FOR LANDSCAPING RIGHT NOW, AS OF RIGHT NOW, IT'S ACTUALLY ILLEGAL TO SELL HERE IN CALIFORNIA.
YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE SELLING IT.
NOW THEY'RE USING UP THE STOCKS THAT ARE COMING IN.
YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET SOMETHING OFF THE INTERNET, BUT BASICALLY YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO BUY A GAS POWERED LAWNMOWER ANYMORE PERIOD HERE IN CALIFORNIA.
BUT THERE STILL CAN, THERE'S STILL STOCKS STILL OUT THERE TO BE MOVED THROUGH THE SYSTEM, SO IT'S NOT BEING ENFORCED RIGHT NOW.
UM, SO JUST FOR AWARENESS THERE.
AND SO I HAVE FOR, FOR MY NON-PROFIT PANEL WETLANDS ALLIANCE, I'VE PURCHASED A COUPLE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT, ALL ELECTRICAL, I HAVE ELECTRIC BLOWERS AND, AND SHEARERS, UM, AND, UM, SMALL MINI CHAINSAW.
AND I, AND ALSO I TESTED OUT A BRAND NEW HIGH-END ELECTRIC LAWNMOWER, UH, ON, ON, UH, ON THE, AND I'VE ACTUALLY USED IT ON THE TRAILS OVER THERE AT SCHOENBERGER AND ALMOND MARSH.
AND I CAN, SO I CAN REPORT BACK, YES, IT'S, THEY'RE NOT AS, UM, LONG LASTING, BUT THEY ARE AS EFFICIENT.
SO, UH, I WAS ABLE TO SWITCH OUT TWO LARGE BATTERY.
I HAVE 10 AMP, TWO 10 AMP BATTERIES I PURCHASED WITH, WITH THE MOWER.
AND SO EACH BATTERY LASTED ABOUT 35 TO 40 MINUTES.
SO I WAS ABLE TO GO OUT THERE FOR ALMOST AN HOUR AND A HALF, UM, OUT TO, TO DO SOME MOWING.
AND NOW I'M TALKING ABOUT HEAVY DUTY MOWING, UH, OUT THERE IN, IN WEED TERRITORY AT, UH, TRAILS.
SO, UM, IT, IT, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GETTING BETTER, UM, 'CAUSE THEY, BEFORE THEY CORN UP THE CAPACITY AND WE, SO THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW.
UM, AND UH, I'VE JUST TALKED TO A LANDSCAPE COMPANY AND THEY'VE, THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED WORKING ON, THEY EVEN HAVE,
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UH, THIS, THIS LOCAL ONE THAT TAKES CARE, CARE OF THE GOLF COURSE, EVEN HAS A ROBOTICS LAWNMOWER THAT'S ON A ROBOT.AND, UM, AND THEN, AND OUR CITY STAFF, UH, JUST TALKED TO THEM AND SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE WORKING AND THINKING ABOUT HOW TO DO THE CONVERSION NOW.
SO THAT'S HAPPENING NOW, UH, BY CITY STAFF, UM, FOR THE CONVERSION PROCESS.
SO I JUST WANNA BRING YOU UP TO DATE ON, ON THAT WHOLE SCENE.