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GOOD EVENING[CALL TO ORDER]
AND WELCOME TO THE 17TH MEETING OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR WEDNESDAY, APRIL 22ND, 2026.IF YOU WISH TO PROVIDE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, PLEASE FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD IN THE BACK OF THE CHAMBER AND BRING IT TO THE COMMITTEE CLERK.
AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO ASK THE CLERK TO TAKE RULE DOVE.
OSLER HERE AS SULLIVAN IS ABSENT.
UM, AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO LEAD THE COMMITTEE ON THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
UH, NEXT UP WE'LL HAVE GENERAL
[GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT]
PUBLIC COMMENT.UH, DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON ITEMS OF PUBLIC INTEREST THAT ARE WITHIN THE COMMITTEE'S SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION, AND THAT ARE NOT LISTED ON THE CURRENT AGENDA.
PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED UP TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON.
DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF PERSONS WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE.
TIME WILL BE ALLOCATED IN EQUAL SHARES TOTALING NO MORE THAN 15 MINUTES.
UH, CLERK, HAVE WE RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING? UH, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY PRIOR TO THE MEETING, AND WE JUST RECEIVED ONE FOR IN-PERSON.
THEN I'LL OPEN GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT AND ASK THE SPEAKER TO BRING THEIR CARDS TO THE CLERK'S DESK AND INVITE THE CLERK TO READ THE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT INSTRUCTIONS.
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC SHOULD BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARDS TO THE CLERK'S DESK IF THEY HAVE NOT ALREADY DONE SO.
SPEAKERS ARE REMINDED TO BE RESPECTFUL IN THEIR COMMENTS.
THREATS OF VIOLENCE AND OBSCENITY OR GROUNDS FOR REMOVAL FROM THIS MEETING, A COUNTDOWN WILL APPEAR FOR THE CONVENIENCE OF THE SPEAKER AND VIEWERS.
THE FIRST SPEAKER WILL BE ACKNOWLEDGED AND INVITED TO SPEAK WHEN THE COUNTDOWN BEGINS.
WE'LL DO THREE MINUTES FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO CALL ON NINA DETO.
HELLO, UH, BOARD COMMISSION COMMITTEE, UH, ET CETERA.
UH, I'M REFLECTING ON OPPORTUNITIES THAT OUR PROPOSED, UH, EXPANSION OF THE FLOCK, UH, PURVIEW PROVIDES.
AND LIKE WHAT'S WITH THE CARS, WITH THE BLACKED OUT WINDOWS.
BECAUSE AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND THE VEHICLE CODE, NO.
BUT THERE THEY ARE, AND THEY'RE EVER MORE OF THEM.
AND IT'S TROUBLING TO ME BECAUSE IT'S A PUBLIC SAFETY HAZARD.
YOU CAN'T SEE THROUGH THEM, WHICH A THOUGHTFUL DRIVER'S DOING AT AN INTERSECTION.
AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT ABOUT THE NOISE? LIKE THE, THAT THROBBING BASE, YOU KNOW, IT JUST, UH, IS, IS VERY DISRUPTIVE.
AND HEY, WHAT ABOUT ALL THOSE NEW BIKE LANES? AND WOULDN'T IT BE INTERESTING TO DO A THOUGHTFUL METRIC OF HOW MANY BICYCLISTS ARE ACTUALLY ON THEM? AND THE FLOCK, I THINK, OFFERS A WHAT, LIKE A SPOT SHOTTER LIKE NOISE KIND OF THING.
AND THERE ARE JUST SO MANY POSSIBILITIES.
AND AS LONG AS WE'RE ENTERTAINING FLOCK, WELL, LET'S PUT THE PEDAL TO THE METAL FRIENDS.
LET'S LIKE, USE THIS TECHNOLOGY.
AND IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO, WELL, MAYBE WE SHOULDN'T REALLY BE CONSIDERING IT QUITE SO MUCH.
AND I'M WASN'T SURE IF IT WAS GOING TO BE GENERAL COMMENT OR NEW BUSINESS OR ITEMS FOR FUTURE CONSIDERATION.
BUT THANK YOU FOR REFLECTING ON MY COMMENTS.
UM, BECAUSE FOR EVERY LITTLE BIT OF PRIVACY AND FOURTH AMENDMENT PROTECTIONS THAT WE, THE CITIZENRY LOSE, UM, THERE, THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME LIKE RECIPROCAL KIND OF ADVANTAGE.
AND I'M THINKING LIKE NOISE, ALL THIS OTHER STUFF.
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH.AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO CLOSE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT AND CONTINUE WITH THE AGENDA.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
UP IS THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR THE MEETING OF MARCH 25TH, 2026.I'D ASK IF THERE ARE ANY CHANGES OR CORRECTIONS AT THIS POINT, THEN I'D LIKE TO, UM, MINUTES ARE DEEMED APPROVED AS PRESENTED.
UH, I WILL BE ABSTAINING 'CAUSE I WAS NOT HERE.
[PRESENTATIONS]
WE'LL MOVE TO OUR PRESENTATION.WE'RE GONNA RECEIVE, RECEIVE A PRESENTATION OF PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISOR COMMITTEE MONTHLY STATS CHART FROM THE INDEPENDENT POLICE AUDITOR AND DISCUSS.
I'D LIKE TO CALL ON THE INDEPENDENT POLICE AUDITOR AND INTRODUCE DENISE LEWIS AND JEFF SCHLANGER FROM, UH, INTEGRA TO PROVIDE COMMENTS ON THE MONTHLY STATS.
GOOD EVENING CHAIR AND GOOD EVENING COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND STAFF.
UM, DENISE WILL BE FIRST PRESENTING OUR STATS OF THE MONTH, AND THEN, UH, LATER ON THE AGENDA, I WILL BE, UH, PRESENTING OUR ANNUAL REPORT.
SO LET ME TURN IT OVER TO DENISE.
UM, AS YOU SEE UP ON YOUR SCREEN THERE, WE'RE REPORTING ON THE STATS FOR MARCH DURING THIS APRIL MEETING.
SO, UM, IN, I'M GONNA EXPLAIN THE, THE THREE CATEGORIES AGAIN, USE OF FORCE, PURSUITS AND COMPLAINTS.
AND BASED ON SOME QUESTIONS THAT WE GOT LAST MONTH, WE ALL AGREED TO PUT SOME NOTES AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS GOING FORWARD EACH MONTH.
SO I'LL, I'LL REFER TO THOSE AS I GO THROUGH THE STATS.
FOR USE OF FORCE, THERE WERE SIX NEW USES OF FORCE IN MARCH WITH 12.
PENDING THAT REVIEW, THERE WERE 10 THAT WERE, WERE REVIEWED BY THE DEPARTMENT.
AND THEN, UM, SENT TO THE IPA FOR REVIEW.
THE IPA REVIEWED EIGHT OF THE USE OF FORCE WITH TWO, UH, AGREED UPON COURSE OF ACTION.
OF THOSE REVIEWS, OF THOSE EIGHT THAT WE REVIEWED, THE IPA REVIEWED, THREE OF THEM WERE DISPLAY ONLY, SO THREE OF THE EIGHT.
SO THE OTHER FIVE THAT INCLUDED FORCE, WHICH THOSE, THAT WAS THE QUESTION LAST MONTH WAS HOW MANY WERE DISPLAY.
SO OF THE OTHER FIVE, THE TYPES OF FORCE THAT WERE USED.
WRIST LOCK, A TACKLE, A WRAP, THE USE OF A REP AND PHYSICAL FORCE, OR HANDS-ON MOVING TO PURSUITS.
AGAIN, THERE WERE THREE PENDING REVIEW, THREE NEW PURSUITS, THREE REVIEWED BY THE DEPARTMENT, AND ONE OF THOSE REVIEWED BY, UH, THE IPA.
THERE WERE NO AGREED UPON COURSE OF ACTION RESULTING FROM THAT PURSUIT.
AND JUST AS BY WAY OF INFORMATION THAT PURSUIT, UH, THAT WE REVIEWED, TERMINATED BECAUSE THE SUSPECT VEHICLE ESCAPED.
MOVING ON TO COMPLAINTS, THERE WERE FIVE NEW COMPLAINTS, 10 PENDING REVIEW.
ONE, UH, REVIEWED BY THE DEPARTMENT, AND ONE REVIEWED BY THE IPA WITH NO AGREED UPON COURSE OF ACTION NECESSARY.
AND THAT ONE COMPLAINT THAT WE REVIEWED, THE TYPE OF COMPLAINT WAS FOR RUDENESS, AND THAT WAS AN UNFOUNDED AS THE DISPOSITION, WHICH MEANS IT, IT DID NOT OCCUR.
SO I'LL, I'LL PAUSE THERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
UH, CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME AGAIN WHAT A WRAP IS? ABSOLUTELY.
UH, JEFF, DO YOU WANNA CHIME IN OR SOMEBODY FROM, UH, JEFF, YOU'RE ON MUTE.
IT'S A, IT'S A RESTRAINT DEVICE, AND I KNOW HE'S TALKING, HE'S GOOD AT EXPLAINING IT, SO I'M GONNA LET HIM DO IT.
UH, THE WRAP IS A RESTRAINING, UH, DEVICE, WHICH, UH, HAD REPLACED, UH, A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT KINDS OF, UH, RESTRAINING DEVICES THAT WERE USED, UH, IN THE PAST.
IT IS A DEVICE THAT, UH, ESSENTIALLY DOES EXACTLY WHAT IT SAYS.
IT, UH, WRAPS AN INDIVIDUAL UP SO THAT THE HANDS AND LEGS ARE CONTAINED IN A, A WRAPPER, IF YOU WILL.
UH, AND THEN THE INDIVIDUAL IS HOOKED IN A WAY THAT, UH, LEAVES THEM IN A SEATING POSITION.
I BELIEVE IN LAST YEAR'S ANNUAL REPORT, WE HAD A PICTURE OF THE WRAP.
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AND, UH, WE WOULD BE HAPPY AT SOME POINT TO, UH, GIVE A, UH, NOT A LIVE DEMONSTRATION, BUT A VIDEO, UH, DEMONSTRATION OF HOW THE REP IS, IS UTILIZED.AND I HAVE A PICTURE OF IT, IF I CAN SHARE MY SCREEN AND ANYBODY WANTS THAT TO HAPPEN, UH, YEAH, THAT'D BE GREAT.
I SEE IF IT'S, SEE IF IT'LL WORK
I JUST, I HAVE TO SEND A REQUEST.
CAN ARE YOU SEEING THAT? NO, WE'RE NOT SEEING THAT OR NO? NO.
WAIT, IT MIGHT, MIGHT, THIS MIGHT WORK.
I MIGHT HAVE TO CLICK SOMETHING THERE.
ARE YOU SEEING IT NOW? THAT WORKED? YES.
THIS IS SOMEBODY AT HOW THE OFFICERS LIFT.
YOU CAN SEE THEM HOLDING AND BASICALLY IT, IT IMMOBILIZES.
DOES THAT HELP? YEAH, THAT DOES.
THAT, UH, ONE LAST, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE STEPS? ONE LAST QUICK QUESTION, UH, FOR THE VEHICLE ESCAPED, IS THAT LEFT THE JURISDICTION? IS THAT WAS ABLE TO EVADE POLICE PURSUIT OR WAS THAT THE PURSUIT BECAME DANGEROUS TO CITIZENS AND PROPERTY AND WAS TERMINATED BY THE PURSUING OFFICER? LITERALLY, THE, THE, THE WAY IT WAS, UM, THIS ONE WAS, IT WASN'T TERMINATED BECAUSE THE, SAY IT'S ACTUALLY WORDED INCORRECTLY.
UM, SO, SO WHAT IT, WHETHER IT WENT OUT OF THE JURISDICTION OR NOT, I'M NOT SURE, BUT IT WAS NOT TERMINATED BY THE DEPARTMENT.
IT WAS THE SUSPECT VEHICLE ESCAPED.
[PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION]
IS TO RECEIVE REVIEW, DISCUSS AND PROVIDE COMMENTS RELATED TO THE 2025 INDEPENDENT POLICE AUDITOR'S.IPA ANNUAL REPORT COVERING THE PERIOD FROM JANUARY 1ST, 2025 TO DECEMBER 31ST, 2025.
AGAIN, I WANNA INTRODUCE DENISE LEWIS AND JEFF SCHLANGER FROM INTEGRA SURE.
TO PRESENT THE 2025 INDEPENDENT POLICE AUDITOR'S ANNUAL REPORT.
THANK YOU AGAIN, CHIEF, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD AN INTRODUCTION HERE FOR THIS REPORT.
UH, I HADN'T REALLY PLANNED ON IT, JEFF, BUT I THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH THE LIBERTY THAT YOU'RE PROVIDING, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE'RE, WE CONTINUE TO BE REALLY PLEASED TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH INTEGRA.
THIS IS THEIR REPORT, UM, SUMMATION OF OUR, UM, PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS WORK AND, AND OUR USE OF FORCE REPORTING AND REALLY A COMPREHENSIVE WORK PRODUCT OF, OF THEIR REVIEW OF OUR ORGANIZATION AND, UM, THE PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS DEPARTMENT'S ANALYSIS OF, OF ALL THE, THE, UM, REVIEWS AND THE USE OF FORCE, SHOW OF FORCE, COMPLAINTS, VEHICLE PURSUITS, UM, POTENTIAL CRITICAL INCIDENTS, UH, REVIEWS THAT GO INTO THE ORGANIZATION OVER THE, THE LAST YEAR.
UM, THIS IS THE THIRD REPORT THAT THEY WILL HAVE BEEN, UM, REVIEWING AND COMPILING FOR US.
AND SO WE'VE CONTINUED TO, TO GROW AND EXPAND THE REPORT BASED ON, UM, INPUT FROM BOTH THIS COMMITTEE AND FROM THE COUNCIL, UM, AND, UM, AND, AND ADAPTED AS, AS WE'VE RECEIVED THAT FEEDBACK.
SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO RECEIVING YOUR INPUT AND, UH, YOUR COMMENTS.
AND THEN AGAIN, UM, FROM THIS COMMITTEE, WE CARRY, UM, IT FORWARD AND THIS YEAR BASED ON SOME OF THE, UH, COUNCIL, UM, MEETINGS THAT ARE COMING FORWARD, IT IS, UH, A LITTLE BIT DELAYED COMING BACK TO COUNCIL.
SO I BELIEVE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, WE'RE GOING IN JUNE, UH, THIS YEAR.
SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A TIME GAP.
UM, BUT IT IS GOING FORWARD IN, UH, IN JUNE THIS YEAR, JEFF, AND I'LL TURN IT BACK.
I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR RECEIVING THIS REPORT, UM, WHICH WE ARE PRESENTING, UM, AS THE OFFICE OF THE INDEPENDENT, UH, POLICE AUDITOR FOR THE CITY OF, UH, PETALUMA.
THE REPORT COVERS A PERIOD OF JANUARY 1ST THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST, 2025.
AND OUR PURPOSE TONIGHT IS TO SUMMARIZE THE MAJOR
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FINDINGS, IDENTIFY AREAS OF PROGRESS, NOTE AREAS WHERE REFINEMENT REMAINS APPROPRIATE, AND PLACE THE YEAR'S WORK IN THE BROADER CONTEXT OF CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT.AT THE OUTSET, I WOULD LIKE TO EMPHASIZE THAT THE PETALUMA MODEL IS ONE OF INDEPENDENT OVERSIGHT CARRIED OUT IN A COLLABORATIVE, PROFESSIONAL, AND IMPROVEMENT ORIENTED MANNER.
SO ONE OF THE, UH, MOST IMPORTANT DEVELOPMENTS DURING THE REPORTING PERIOD WAS THE PERMANENT CODIFICATION OF THE IPA ROLE IN THE PETALUMA MUNICIPAL CODE.
UH, THAT ACTION INSTITUTIONALIZED INDEPENDENT OVERSIGHT AS A PERMANENT FEATURE OF CITY GOVERNMENT RATHER THAN SOMETHING DEPENDENT SOLELY ON A CONTRACT.
THIS WAS SIGNIFICANT FOR SEVERAL REASONS.
FIRST, IT REFLECTS THE CITY'S COMMITMENT TO TRANSPARENCY, ACCOUNTABILITY, AND COMMUNITY TRUST.
WE'RE BUILDING COMMUNITY TRUST.
SECONDLY, IT PROVIDES CONTINUITY AND STABILITY FOR THAT OVERSIGHT FUNCTION.
AND THIRDLY, IT REINFORCES THAT INDEPENDENT REVIEW IS INTENDED NOT MERELY TO IDENTIFY PROBLEMS, BUT TO HELP SUSTAIN BEST PRACTICES OVER TIME.
IN OUR VIEW, THIS CODIFICATION WAS THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT INSTITUTIONAL DEVELOPMENT OF THE YEAR.
THIS SLIDE REFLECTS THE PHILOSOPHY BEHIND OUR WORK.
UH, TRADITIONAL AUDITOR MODELS OFTEN FOCUS PRIMARILY ON COMPLETED INVESTIGATIONS OF MISCONDUCT OR COMPLAINTS AFTER THE FACT.
THEY OFTEN ALSO ARE ADVERSARIAL IN NATURE.
THE PETALUMA MODEL IS BROADER AND MORE PROACTIVE.
UH, IN PETALUMA WE REVIEW 100% OF THE USES OF FORCE DISPLAYS, OF FORCE PURSUITS AND COMPLAINT INVESTIGATIONS.
REGARDLESS OF WHETHER A COMPLAINT WAS MADE OR NOT, THAT MAKES THE PROCESS LESS REACTIVE AND MORE PREVENTATIVE IN NATURE.
IT FUNCTIONS AS A REAL TIME EARLY WARNING AND IMPROVEMENT MECHANISM.
THE AIM IS SIMPLY, IS NOT SIMPLY TO DETERMINE WHETHER MISCONDUCT HAS OCCURRED, BUT TO IDENTIFY ISSUES EARLY, REINFORCE GOOD PERFORMANCE, REFINE TACTICS AND SUPERVISION, AND SUPPORT NON-DISCIPLINARY IMPROVEMENT WHENEVER APPROPRIATE.
ENSURE THAT THE PETALUMA MODEL IS DESIGNED TO IMPROVE PERFORMANCE CONTINUOUSLY, NOT MERELY TO ADJUDICATE FAILURES.
UH, THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE BROADER THREE YEAR TREND DATA ACROSS THE THREE YEAR PERIOD.
CALLS FOR SERVICE ARRESTS, CITATIONS, AND COMPLAINTS, ALL TRENDED DOWNWARD USE OF FORCE DECLINE SUBSTANTIALLY FROM 2023 TO 2024.
AND ALTHOUGH MODESTLY HIGHER IN 2025 THAN IN 2024, REMAINED WELL BELOW 2023 LEVELS.
PURSUITS ALSO DECREASED OVERALL ACROSS THE THREE YEAR PERIOD, NOT WITHSTANDING YEAR TO YEAR VARIANCE.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO BE CAREFUL HERE WITH THESE STATISTICS.
WE CANNOT SAY ANY SINGLE FACTOR CAUSED THESE TRENDS.
POLICING OUTCOMES ARE INFLUENCED BY MANY VARIABLES, INCLUDING POLICY, STAFFING, SUPERVISION, TRAINING, COMMUNITY CONDITIONS, AND ENFORCEMENT STRATEGY.
WHAT WE CAN SAY IS THAT THE OVERALL DIRECTION OF THE DATA IS CONSISTENT WITH THE DEPARTMENT'S EMPHASIS ON DEESCALATION, PROPORTIONAL RESPONSE, SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT, AND CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT.
SO THIS SLIDE DESCRIBES THE CORE METHODOLOGY THAT WE USE IN OUR ROLE AS IPA.
OUR REVIEWS ARE NOT LIMITED TO WHETHER A PARTICULAR OFFENSE TECHNICALLY VIOLATED POLICY.
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WE EXAMINE AN INCIDENT IN A FULL 360 DEGREE WAY THAT INCLUDES THE LEGALITY OF THE INITIAL CONTACT COMMUNICATION WITH THE SUBJECT COMMUNICATION AMONGST OFFICERS, TACTICS, PLANNING, PROFESSIONALISM, PROPER USE OF BODY-WORN CAMERAS, THE SUPERVISORY REVIEW OF AN INCIDENT, AND WHETHER A DIFFERENT APPROACH MIGHT HAVE PRODUCED A BETTER OUTCOME IN ANY ONE INCIDENT.THE UNDERLYING PHILOSOPHY IS STRAIGHTFORWARD, IDENTIFY SMALL ISSUES BEFORE THEY BECOME LARGER ONES AND CORRECT THEM THROUGH COACHING, MENTORING, TRAINING, AND POLICY REFINEMENT WHENEVER POSSIBLE.
THAT, OF COURSE, DOES NOT ELIMINATE THE POSSIBILITY OF DISCIPLINE WHEN REQUIRED.
UM, BUT THE ALTERNATIVES ARE ONES THAT ARE EXAMINED FOR EFFICACY BEFORE DISCIPLINE.
THE METHODOLOGY ALLOWS US TO NOT ONLY IDENTIFY TRAINING ISSUES, BUT TO IDENTIFY COMMENDABLE CONDUCT AS WELL.
OVERALL, THIS IS A LEARNING TOOL AS MUCH AS IT IS AN ACCOUNTABILITY TOOL.
SO THIS SLIDE REPRESENTS THE INCIDENT REVIEW VOLUME.
UM, DURING 2025, WE REVIEWED A TOTAL OF 141 INCIDENTS AND INVESTIGATIONS THAT INCLUDED 53 USES OF FORCE, 33 DISPLAYS OF FORCE, 22 PURSUITS, AND 33 COMPLAINT INVESTIGATIONS.
THERE WAS ONE FATAL PURSUIT, WHICH HAS NOT YET BEEN REVIEWED BY US BECAUSE THE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION REMAINS PENDING FROM THESE REVIEWS, 24 RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, OR AGREED UPON COURSES OF ACTION WERE ISSUED.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT NOT EVERY ISSUE THAT IS IDENTIFIED IN A CASE RELATIVE TO POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENT OF TACTICS OR IN ANY ONE OF THOSE OTHER AREAS THAT I WENT OVER NECESSARILY RESULTS IN AN ACA.
IN MOST INSTANCES, THOSE ISSUES ARE RECOGNIZED FIRST IN THE SUPERVISORY REVIEW, EITHER THE FIRST LINE SUPERVISORY REVIEW OR A SECOND LINE REVIEW.
SO THEREFORE, ACTION HAS ALREADY BEEN TAKEN AND THERE IS NO ADDITIONAL ACTION THAT NEEDS TO BE AGREED UPON.
IN MANY CASES, AGAIN, SUPERVISORS HAVE IDENTIFIED AND REMEDIATED THESE ISSUES BEFORE OUR REVIEW, AND THAT IS TRULY A POSITIVE SIGN AS IT INDICATES THAT OUR METHODOLOGY IS BEING PASSED DOWN TO SUPERVISORS AND THAT THE INTERNAL ACCOUNTABILITY, UH, FUNCTION IS OPERATING APPROPRIATELY AND THAT SUPERVISORS ARE ENGAGING, UH, PERFORMANCE ISSUES EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS.
THIS SLIDE DEALS WITH OUR USES OF FORCE, UH, REVIEWS.
OUR OVERALL FINDING WAS THAT NO REVIEW, UH, USE OF FORCE OR DISPLAY OF FORCE WAS DETERMINED TO BE OUT OF POLICY.
THAT'S IMPORTANT, BUT AGAIN, NOT THE END OF THE ANALYSIS.
UH, AS I MENTIONED, EVEN WHEN FORCES WITHIN POLICY, ANY ONE OF THOSE OTHER AREAS MAY HOLD AN OPPORTUNITY TO IMPROVE TACTICS, COMMUNICATION, DOCUMENTATION, SUPERVISION OR TRAINING IN THE AREA OF, UH, USE OF FORCE AND DISPLAY OF FORCE, WE MADE A NUMBER OF RECOMMENDATIONS IN THIS AREA, INCLUDING REINFORCEMENT OF TRANSPARENCY STATEMENTS WERE PRACTICAL.
A TRANSPARENCY STATEMENT IS A STATEMENT TO SOMEBODY WHO IS ABOUT TO BE ARRESTED, UH, THAT THAT ARREST IS ABOUT TO TAKE PLACE.
UM, AND AGAIN, NOT POSSIBLE IN EVERY SITUATION, BUT IN THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE IT IS POSSIBLE, WE RECOMMEND THAT IT BE UNDERTAKEN.
UH, WE ALSO MADE RECOMMENDATIONS WITH RESPECT TO, UH, SAFE TEAM
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UTILIZATION, HANDCUFFING TACTICS, BODY-WORN CAMERA COMPLIANCE, SUPERVISORY REVIEW, QUALITY, AND TRANSPORTATION ISSUES RELATIVE TO THE WRAP.WE OBSERVED A SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER OF TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES THAT SUPERVISORS HAD ALREADY HANDLED BEFORE OUR REVIEW.
AND IN ADDITION, WE IDENTIFIED COMMENDABLE OFFICER AND SUPERVISORY PERFORMANCE IN SEVERAL HIGH STRESS INCIDENTS.
AGAIN, THE REPORT IS NOT SIMPLY ABOUT SHORTCOMINGS.
IT ALSO DOCUMENTS STRONG PERFORMANCE THAT SHOULD BE REINFORCED DEPARTMENT WIDE.
SO THIS IS THE SLIDE ON, UH, PURSUIT REVIEWS.
UM, AND YOU SEE THE SCALE THERE AND THE BALANCE BETWEEN PUBLIC SAFETY RISK AND ENFORCEMENT OBJECTIVES.
AND THIS IS A, AN AREA WHERE THE CITY RISK TOLERANCE MATTERS GREATLY.
THE CENTRAL QUESTION IS NOT ONLY WHETHER A PURSUIT MET POLICY CRITERIA, BUT WHETHER THE RISK ASSUMED WAS PROPORTIONATE TO THE ENFORCEMENT OBJECTIVE.
AND THAT IS ALL LAID OUT IN THE CURRENT PURSUIT POLICY.
THE FACTORS WEIGHING ON EACH SIDE OF THAT SCALE.
IN 2025, WE REVIEWED 22 PURSUITS.
AGAIN, THERE WAS AN ADDITIONAL, UH, PURSUIT, WHICH ENDED IN A FA FATALITY IN WHICH THE REVIEW HAS NOT YET BEEN PERFORMED BECAUSE OF THE PENDING CRIMINAL REVIEW.
UM, NONE OF THE PURSUITS WHICH WERE REVIEWED WERE FOUND TO BE OUT OF POLICY.
AT THE SAME TIME, SEVERAL ISSUES WARRANTED REMEDIAL ACTION AND BROADER POLICY DISCUSSION.
OUR RECOMMENDATIONS IN THIS AREA INCLUDED, UM, A RECOMMENDATION THAT ALL VEHICLES BE EQUIPPED WITH DASH CAMERAS, UM, COUNSELING REGARDING BODY-WORN CAMERA ACTIVATION AND POLICY REFINEMENT TO PROHIBIT PURSUITS INITIATED SOLELY ON THE BASIS OF LOW LEVEL TRAFFIC INFRACTIONS, INCLUDING CERTAIN E-BIKE SITUATIONS.
WE HAD SUBSTANTIVE DISCUSSIONS WITH COMMAND STAFF CONCERNING PURSUITS INVOLVING SUSPECTED IMPAIRED DRIVERS AND THE CITY'S OVERALL TOLERANCE FOR RISK.
THIS REMAINS AN IMPORTANT POLICY AREA GOING FORWARD.
HEY, JEFF, REAL QUICK ON THE LAST SLIDE.
ON THE LAST SLIDE, I THINK YOU MENTIONED A RECOMMENDATION ABOUT UM, DASH CAMS AND YES.
SO HAS THAT BEEN IMPLEMENTED ACROSS THE BOARD OR ARE WE PHASING THAT IN OR IT HAS NOT YET BEEN IMPLEMENTED? UH, MAYBE THE CHIEF CAN SPEAK TO IT.
I KNOW THAT AT LEAST ONE CAR, UH, IS EQUIPPED WITH THE DASH CAM.
UM, MAYBE MORE THAN THAT CHIEF.
YEAH, WE, WE HAVE PILOTED AND IMPLEMENTED ONE DASH CAM THIS YEAR.
WE HAD, UH, SOME FUNDING FOR THAT, BUT THERE ARE ABOUT $15,000 PER CAMERA.
AND SO WE HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL FLEET OF OVER 30 VEHICLES.
SO YOU CAN IMAGINE WHAT THAT WOULD BE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
AND, UH, THAT'S A, A BUDGETARY DISCUSSION THAT CURRENTLY WE'RE NOT IN A POSITION TO TAKE ACTION ON IN THIS FUNDING CYCLE.
SO, UM, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL BE LOOKING FOR, FOR GRANT FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES AND EXPANSION AND ALWAYS EVALUATING WAYS TO LOOK AT THAT AND EXPLORING AS WE, UH, EVALUATE OPPORTUNITIES.
AND, UM, IT IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IS CURRENTLY BEING PILOTED AS PART OF OUR DDUI ENFORCEMENT VEHICLE.
UM, AND IT WAS BEING EXPLORED AS A WAY TO, UH, FURTHER ENHANCE OUR DUI INVESTIGATIONS.
AND WE'RE SEEING THE VALUE AND THE BENEFITS OF THAT CURRENTLY.
AND WE'VE BEEN PRETTY, UH, UH, SUCCESSFUL IN BRINGING IN GRANT FUNDING THROUGH OUR OFFICE OF TRAFFIC SAFETY GRANT FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES.
AND, UH, WE HOPE TO EXPLORE THOSE FUTURE FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES THROUGH THAT PROGRAM AND THE FUND, UH, FUTURE GRANT CYCLES.
SO, UH, FINGERS CROSSED AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'LL CONTINUE TO EVALUATE THAT AND IT ALWAYS HELPS TO, UM, HEAR THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM OUR IPA AND, UM, WE WILL ABSOLUTELY CONTINUE THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR, OUR, UM, CITY MANAGEMENT TEAM.
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THANKS, CHIEF.ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, UH, THUS FAR, OR HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION AS WELL? EITHER WAY.
I HAD A COUPLE, I HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, BUT YEAH, I THINK WE'LL HOLD UNTIL THE END AND THEN MAYBE WE ASK THEM THEN.
ONE IS OUR, UH, COMPLAINTS AND OUR COMPLAINT REVIEWS, AND THE OTHER IS OUR, OUR DATA OR DETAILED ANALYSIS OF TRUE ACTIVITY REVIEWS.
UM, SO IN ADDITION TO, UH, PURSUITS AND USES AND DISPLAYS OF FORCE, WE REVIEW EVERY, UH, COMPLAINT INVESTIGATION THAT IS, UH, PERFORMED BY THE DEPARTMENT.
UM, LAST YEAR IN 2025, WE REVIEWED A TOTAL OF 33 COMPLAINT INVESTIGATIONS, AND WE AGREED WITH ALL COMPLAINT ADJUDICATIONS.
I JUST WANNA STRESS HERE, WE ARE NOT DOING AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION ON ANY COMPLAINTS.
WE ARE RATHER LOOKING AT THE INVESTIGATION THAT IS DONE BY THE DEPARTMENT AND MAKING SURE THAT THAT INVESTIGATION WAS DONE FAIRLY AND THAT IT LOOKED AT ALL OF THE EVIDENCE APPROPRIATELY, AND THAT IT REACHED A COMPLETE, UH, CONCLUSION OR AN ADJUDICATION THAT WE FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH.
UM, RECOMMENDATIONS IN THIS AREA RELATED PRIMARILY TO, UH, MISSING ITEMS IN INVESTIGATIONS, IN SOME INVESTIGATIONS, THE PROPER USE OF THE FINDING CATEGORIES, FULL RESOLUTION OF ALL ALLEGATIONS, UH, DEESCALATION LANGUAGE, AND CERTAIN TRAINING ISSUES.
WE ALSO CONDUCTED TWO DETAILED ANALYSIS OF TOUR ACTIVITY REVIEWS DURING THE YEAR.
THESE REVIEWS EXAMINE A RANDOM PERIOD OF OVERALL POLICE ACTIVITY THAT IS ACTIVITY, WHICH WE WOULDN'T CATCH WITH OUR PURSUIT REVIEWS, OUR USE OR DISPLAY OF FORCE REVIEWS OR OUR COMPLAINT REVIEWS.
UM, AND IT DOES THAT IN, IN ORDER TO GET A SENSE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING OUTSIDE OF THE NORMAL ACTIVITIES THAT WE DO REVIEW.
UM, THE PURPOSE IS OBVIOUSLY TO IDENTIFY, UH, BROADER PATTERNS WHICH MAY EXIST TO VALIDATE OPERATIONAL INTEGRITY AND TO DETAIL, UH, DETECT ISSUES THAT MAY NOT SHOW UP IN THOSE NARROWER, UH, REVIEWS THAT WE DO.
BOTH DATA AUDITS THAT WE COMPLETED CONFIRM GENERAL COMPLIANCE WITH PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS, WHILE ALSO IDENTIFYING AREAS FOR TARGETED IMPROVEMENT.
DID, DID YOU SAY, WOULD WE, DO YOU PREFER, UH, QUESTIONS ALL AT THE END, OR IF I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE COMPLAINTS, IF I SHOULD MENTION IT NOW? SURE, YOU CAN, PLEASE.
UM, SO I, I NOTICED THAT, UM, I DIDN'T SEE IN THE REPORT THAT THERE'S ANY, UH, THAT THERE'S ANY CHARACTERIZATION OF THE 33 COMPLAINTS YOU REVIEWED.
LIKE, UM, I JUST SAW ON THE STATS CHART THAT YOU SAID ONE OF THE COMPLAINTS, THE COMPLETE, THE ONE COMPLAINT YOU REVIEWED WAS ABOUT RUDENESS.
UM, IS THERE ANY CO COMP COMPILATION OF THE, LIKE, INTO CATEGORIES, SOMETHING OR OTHER TO, TO NOTICE TRENDS OR PATTERNS ABOUT THE TYPES OF COMPLAINTS THAT YOU'RE GETTING OR THAT THE POLICE ARE GETTING? YEAH, SO YEAH, WE STARTED DOING THAT THIS YEAR.
UM, THERE ARE CERTAIN LIMITATIONS ON, UH, WHAT WE CAN REPORT BY VIRTUE OF CALIFORNIA LAW.
UM, BUT THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION GENERALLY IS THAT WE COULD PUT THESE INTO BUCKETS AND REPORT ON THEM, AND, UH, IF YOU'D LIKE, WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT.
UM, OKAY, I THINK NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
SO THIS IS A, UH, FORWARD LOOKING SLIDE.
OUR WORK IS NOT JUST, UH, RETROSPECTIVE.
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UH, OBVIOUSLY IT, IT LOOKS FORWARD AS WELL.AND, UH, DURING THE YEAR, THERE WERE ONGOING DISCUSSIONS REGARDING POLICY UPDATES IN SEVERAL CORE AREAS, INCLUDING PURSUITS, BODY-WORN CAMERAS, USE OF FORCE AND RESTRAINTS.
ONE ESPECIALLY, UH, IMPORTANT AREA MOVING FORWARD, WHICH WE HAVE HAD PRELIMINARY DISCUSSION, IS THE, UH, DEPLOYMENT OF A FORMAL EARLY WARNING SYSTEM.
UH, AND POLICY RELATING TO EARLY WARNING.
UH, THAT SYSTEM WOULD BE MEANT TO HELP IDENTIFY OFFICERS WHOSE PERFORMANCE, UH, INDICATORS, UH, INDICATES THAT THEY MAY POTENTIALLY BE AT RISK.
AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN UH, DEFINES A PROTOCOL TO CLEAR THAT FLAG, SO TO SPEAK, AND DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT AN OFFICER IS AT RISK.
AND IF SO, WHAT REMEDIATION MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE, UH, TO HELP THAT OFFICER, UM, OR THAT FLAG CAN BE CLEARED.
AND, UH, JUST BE AN ANOMALY OF, UH, OF THE STATISTICAL TYPE.
UM, WE ALSO OBSERVED MEANINGFUL TRAINING ACTIVITY DURING THE YEAR, INCLUDING TRAINING ON THE, THE PARA GREEN ANALYTICS, TRAFFIC INVESTIGATIONS, STRATEGIC COMMUNICATION, VEHICLE PURSUITS, AND MISSING PERSONS.
THE COMBINATION OF POLICY REFINEMENT, TACTICAL TRAINING AND ANALYTIC CAPABILITY IS ESSENTIAL IF THE DEPARTMENT IS TO CONTINUE MATURING AS A LEARNING ORGANIZATION.
THIS SLIDE ADDRESSES TWO DISTINCT BUT IMPORTANT OVERSIGHT FUNCTIONS.
FIRST CRITICAL INCIDENTS, UH, DURING THIS RE REPORTING PERIOD, AS I'VE MENTIONED COUPLE OF TIMES, THERE WAS ONE PURSUIT RELATED FATALITY THAT FALLS INTO THE CRITICAL INCIDENT CATEGORY.
UH, BECAUSE THE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION REMAINS UNDERWAY UNDER THE A DEFINED COUNTY PROTOCOL, OUR REVIEW IS, WAS PRELIMINARY.
UM, UP UNTIL NOW, ONCE THE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION IS COMPLETE, THERE WILL BE AN ADMINISTRATIVE INVESTIGATION OR REVIEW CONDUCTED BY THE DEPARTMENT, AND THEN WE WILL THOROUGHLY EXAMINE THAT INVESTIGATION AS WELL.
THE SECOND ITEM ON THE SLIDE IS OUR AUDIT OF BACKGROUND INVESTIGATIONS.
DURING 2025, THE DEPARTMENT IMPLEMENTED THE ESO F BACKGROUND SYSTEM, WHICH, UH, IS A MODERNIZATION AND STREAMLINING OF, UH, THE PRE-EMPLOYMENT BACKGROUND PROCESS.
AFTER THE ANNUAL POST AUDIT, UH, FOUND THAT THE DEPARTMENT WAS IN COMPLIANCE, WE CONDUCTED OUR OWN INDEPENDENT RANDOM REVIEW AND SAMPLED A TOTAL OF 10 BACKGROUND INVESTIGATION PACKAGES AND FOUND NO AREAS OF CONCERN.
SO THIS IS ANOTHER AREA WHERE THE DEPARTMENT APPEARS TO BE FUNCTIONING WELL.
UM, THE RIPPER REVIEW AND DATA, UH, DEMOGRAPHIC TRANSPARENCY IS INTENDED TO PROMOTE JUST THAT TRANSPARENCY AND PROVIDE A FACTUAL BASIS FOR INFORMED DISCUSSION REGARDING POLICE STOPS AND POST STOP OUTCOMES.
OUR ROLE HERE IS, UH, TO ASSESS ACCURACY, COMPLETENESS, AND TRANSPARENCY IN THE REPORTING.
AND TO PRESENT THAT DATA, IT IS IMPORTANT TO STATE CLEARLY WHAT OUR REVIEW DOES NOT DO.
WHILE IT PROVIDES A BASELINE AND ALLOWS YEAR TO YEAR VARIANCES TO BE SEEN, IT DOES NOT BY ITSELF ESTABLISH ANY AREA OF CAUSATION, INCLUDING, UH, POTENTIAL BIAS.
FOR THE 25 20 25 REPORTING PERIOD.
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AND 2025 WERE MORE MEANINGFUL THAN, UH, THE PRIOR YEAR BECAUSE THERE WERE CERTAIN CHANGES IN 2024 THAT MADE COMPARISON BETWEEN 23 AND 24, UH, DIFFICULT.UH, IN OUR REVIEW THIS YEAR, WE IDENTIFIED NO CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUES, ISSUES.
UM, WE DID IDENTIFY SOME UNDERREPORT UNDERREPORTING IN CERTAIN STOP CATEGORIES, AND THE DEPARTMENT IS AWARE OF THAT ISSUE AND IS WORKING TO ADDRESS IT.
OVERALL, THIS REMAINS AN AREA WHERE CONTINUED ACCURACY, CONSISTENCY, AND CAREFUL ANALYSIS IS IMPORTANT.
UM, OUR ROLE IS NOT LIMITED TO REVIEWING INCIDENTS AND POLICY.
OBVIOUSLY, WE ARE HERE WITH YOU AND ATTEND PS A C MEETINGS.
UH, WE SERVE AS A RESOURCE, UH, TO THE PS A C AND, UH, THROUGH THE PS A C TO THE COMMUNITY DURING 2025.
ONE IMPORTANT REFINEMENT WAS THE TRANSITION IN THESE MEETINGS FROM AN ORAL UPDATE TO THE WRITTEN MONTHLY STATISTICAL REPORTS, UH, THAT DENISE DELIVERED, UM, JUST A FEW MOMENTS AGO.
WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENT, UH, TO EVEN BETTER IMPROVE TRANSPARENCY, CONSISTENCY, AND CLARITY.
UM, OUR REPORTING ALLOWS NOT ONLY THE COMMITTEE, BUT BECAUSE OF THE, UH, PUBLICATION OF OUR REPORT, UH, THE PUBLIC ALSO TO TRACK ACTIVITY IN A MORE STRUCTURED WAY.
AGAIN, WE'VE ATTENDED EACH PSAC MEETING.
UM, WE VIEW THIS INTERFACE WITH PS A C AS AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE CITY'S OVERALL ACCOUNTABILITY ECOSYSTEM.
SO, LOOKING AT THE YEAR AS A WHOLE 2025, UH, SEVERAL THEMES STAND OUT.
UH, THE FIRST IS THE INSTITUTIONAL PERMANENCE THROUGH THE CODIFICATION OF THE IPA ROLE.
THE SECOND IS THE CONTINUED MATURATION OF OUR REVIEW PROCESS AND THE, UH, USE OF AGREED UPON COURSES OF ACTION AND RECOMMENDATION AS PRACTICAL AND USUALLY NON-DISCIPLINARY, UH, MECHANISMS, UH, FOR IMPROVEMENT.
THE THIRD IS THE EVIDENCE OF DEESCALATION IN PRACTICE, INCLUDING OBSERVED REDUCTIONS IN PROFANITY DURING HIGH STRESS INTERACTIONS AND STRONGER PROFESSIONALISM GENERALLY.
THE FOURTH IS STRONGER LEADERSHIP AND SUPERVISION, INCLUDING MORE ENGAGED AND MORE CRITICAL SUPERVISORY REVIEW.
AND THE FIFTH IS CONTINUING COLLABORATION AMONG THE I-P-A-P-P-D COMMAND STAFF, UH, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
THE BROAD PICTURE IN SOME IS THAT THE WORK IS NOT FINISHED, IT NEVER IS.
UM, BUT WE HAVE A FRAMEWORK WHICH IS FUNCTIONING AS IT INTENDED.
ISSUES ARE BEING IDENTIFIED, THEY ARE BEING DISCUSSED CANDIDLY AND ADDRESSED IN A CONSTRUCTIVE AND COLLABORATIVE MANNER.
SO, IN CLOSING, UH, I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT THE CENTRAL CONCLUSION OF THIS ANNUAL REPORT IS THAT THE PETALUMA MODEL, THE INDEPENDENT POLICE AUDITOR MODEL, HAS EXECUTED IN PETALUMA, UH, CONTINUES TO SUPPORT A CULTURE OF CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT.
THE DEPARTMENT IS ENGAGED IN GENUINE SELF-EXAMINATION, AND IN INCREASINGLY, UH, EFFECTIVE INTERNAL ACCOUNTABILITY, THE CITY HAS STRENGTHENED THE PERMANENCE OF OVERSIGHT BY THE CODIFICATION OF OUR ROLE.
THE C-P-S-A-C HAS BECOME MORE INFORMED AND BETTER SUPPORTED, UH, THROUGH OUR REGULAR RE NOW WRITTEN REPORTING AND ONGOING ENGAGEMENT.
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AND, UH, OUR EXPERIENCE OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS SUGGESTS, UH, SUGGESTS THAT THIS MODEL IS HAVING A MEANINGFUL EFFECT AT MULTIPLE LEVELS OF THE ORGANIZATION.FROM COMMAND STAFF TO SUPERVISORS, TO OFFICERS WHO ARE PATROLLING THE STREETS OF PETALUMA.
DOESN'T MEAN THAT THERE ARE NO ISSUES TO ADDRESS.
IT MEANS THAT, AGAIN, THERE IS A FUNCTIONING STRUCTURE IN PLACE TO IDENTIFY THEM, TO ADDRESS THEM, AND TO LEARN FROM THEM.
UH, WE APPRECIATE THE COLLABORATIVE NATURE OF OUR WORK WITH THE CITY, UH, WITH THE DEPARTMENT AND WITH THIS COMMITTEE, AND WE VERY MUCH LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING THAT REPORT.
I WELCOME ANY QUESTIONS NOW? THANK YOU.
REALLY APPRECIATE THAT THOROUGH REPORT FROM YOU.
AND PLEASE PASS ALONG MY THANKS TO EVERYONE AT INTEGRA SHORE FOR A PART OF PUTTING THAT REPORT TOGETHER.
I'M SURE THAT WAS NOT EASY, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COLLATING AND COLLECTING ALL THAT DATA AND, UM, BOILING THAT DOWN FOR US.
AT THIS POINT, I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE, IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO START.
UM, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A TRAINING VIDEO OF THE REP.
I CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW MANY OFFICERS IT WOULD TAKE TO PUT SOMEBODY IN THAT I, I DIDN'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO CALL IT, TOOL, UM, BECAUSE IT'S, IT LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING THAT'S FOR, UM, OR MAYBE YOU'LL EXPLAIN IT.
WHO WOULD THAT BE FOR? 'CAUSE I, I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE WHAT KIND OF SUSPECT WOULD NEED SO MUCH CONFINEMENT.
I, I, I'LL LET THE CHIEF AND, UH, FOLKS FROM THE DEPARTMENT ANSWER THAT.
BUT, UH, UH, I'LL JUST SAY GENERALLY IN OUR REVIEW OF THESE INCIDENTS, AND AGAIN, WE REVIEW EVERY INCIDENT IN WHICH A WRAP IS USED.
IT'S TYPICALLY USED TO, UM, TO CONTAIN, TO RESTRAIN, UH, VERY UNRULY INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE BEEN EITHER PLACED UNDER ARREST OR EXPERIENCING SOME KIND OF, UH, BEHAVIORAL, UH, ISSUE THAT NEEDS THAT KIND OF RESTRAINT.
BUT CHIEF YEAH, I'VE, WE'VE GOT TWO OF OUR, UH, FORMER DEFENSIVE TACTICS AND USE OF FORCE EXPERTS IN THE ROOM, SO I'M GONNA DEFER TO MY TEAM MEMBERS TO, TO ALLOW TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
SO THE, UH, SO JUST TO PROVIDE SOME SPECIFICS TO WHAT, UM, MR. LANGER WAS SPEAKING TO.
SO PEOPLE THAT CAN'T BE CONTROLLED BY ANY OTHER MEANS IN TERMS OF WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO PLACE SOMETHING, SOMEBODY THAT'S UNDER ARREST IN THE BACK OF A PATROL CAR, UH, OFTENTIMES THEY'LL STRIKE THEIR HEAD AGAINST THE PARTITION, WHICH CAN CAUSE SEVERE LACERATIONS.
UM, THEY'LL KICK AT THE, AT THE CAR, UM, EVEN UP INTO INCLUDING TRYING TO GET THEM INTO THE CAR.
SO EVEN SOME WITH SOMEBODY'S, UH, WHO'S HANDS ARE RESTRAINED, THEY CAN BRACE THEIR FEET UP ON THE SIDE OF THE PATROL CAR AND, AND NOT ALLOW US TO BE PLACED INTO THE CAR.
UM, SO THIS DEVICE IS USED TO CONTROL THOSE TYPES OF SITUATIONS, UH, TO PREVENT HARM TO THEMSELVES, TO THE OFFICERS, AND TO ALLOW FOR SAFE TRANSPORT.
UH, TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT HOW MANY OFFICERS IT TAKES TO APPLY THE WRAP, UM, THE MINIMUM WOULD BE THREE.
UM, BUT TYPICALLY YOU'RE GONNA SEE FOUR TO FIVE, INCLUDING A SUPERVISOR THAT'S, UM, DETACHED FROM THE SITUATION MONITORING THE APPLICATION OF THE DEVICE AND THE WELFARE OF THE, THE SUSPECT AS IT'S BEING APPLIED.
UNLESS, I'D LOVE TO, I'D LOVE TO SEE A TRAINING VIDEO BECAUSE I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE, BECAUSE IF A, IF A SUSPECT IS MOVING AROUND, HOW WOULD YOU CONFINE THEM IN? I, I, I CAN'T EVEN PICTURE IT IN MY HEAD.
AND THAT, AND SO WITH THESE USE OF FORCE INCIDENTS, THE FIRST STEP IN THIS IS, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE SEEKING TO GAIN VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE.
WHEN WE CAN'T DO THAT, THE NEXT STEP IS WE HAVE TO RESTRAIN THEM IN HANDCUFFS.
UM, THEN THEY HAVE TO BE PLACED ON THE GROUND, THE GROUND'S USED AS A CONTROL AGENT, UM, TILL WE CAN GET THIS WRAPPED IN PLACE.
AND ONCE, ONCE IT'S APPLIED, UM, AND IT'S A MODULAR DEVICE, SO A VIDEO WOULD, WOULD, UH, DO THAT JUSTICE, BUT THE LEGS CAN BE RESTRAINED, UM, THEN WE CAN REMOVE THEM INTO A RECOVERY POSITION ON THEIR SIDE SO THAT WE'RE NOT IMPACTING THEIR CHEST.
UM, AND THERE'S, THEY'RE, ONCE IT'S APPLIED, THEY ACTUALLY IN, ARE IN A SEATED POSITION, UM, TO THE POINT WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE HANDS ON THEM, AND THEN WE HAVE TO LIFT THEM AND PUT IN THE CAR.
ALL OUR DEFENSIVE TACTICS AND STRUCTURES WERE CERTIFIED THIS PAST YEAR, RE-CERTIFIED THIS LAST YEAR.
UH, IN THE APPLICATION OF THAT AND TRAINING VIDEOS WERE PROVIDED,
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UH, WHICH I'M SURE WE CAN FACILITATE SHOWING THIS BODY THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL.I, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ANYBODY ELSE, BUT I JUST WAS TRYING TO, UM, IMAGINE HOW AN OFFICER WOULD DO THAT.
THE, THE ONE, YEAH, THE ONE THING I, I'LL, I'LL ADD TO LIEUTENANT ANO AND, AND A TRAINING VIDEO, MOST LIKELY PROBABLY WON'T EVEN GIVE THE REALITIES OF WHEN WE DO A, A, A TRUE APPLICATION JUSTICE, IS IT TAKES MULTIPLE OFFICERS.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A SUPERVISOR THAT RESPONDS.
UM, THREE OR FOUR OFFICERS ARE GENERALLY PRESENT BECAUSE THERE'S ONE THAT'S, UH, YOU SAW.
THERE'S, UM, OFTEN A HELMET THAT WE APPLY BECAUSE MANY OF THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE PHYSICALLY, UM, HITTING THEIR HEAD AGAINST THE GROUND INTENTIONALLY.
UM, THEY'RE SPITTING AND KICKING.
WE HAVE A, A, A MESH, UM, UM, UH, THEY CALL IT A SPIT MASK THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT PROVIDES US.
THEY CAN GO OVER, THEY CAN BREATHE THROUGH IT, BUT IT STOPS THEM FROM BEING ABLE TO SPIT BLOOD OR, UM, SALIVA ON OFFICERS.
WE HAVE HAD A NUMBER OF OFFICERS THAT HAVE BEEN, UM, SPIT ON OR HAD BLOOD EXPOSURE ON, ON THEM.
I'VE HAD IT ON MYSELF, UM, IN TIMES PAST.
UM, AND SO THAT'S NOT A VERY FUN EXPERIENCE, AND WE CAN BE EXPOSED TO A NUMBER OF COMMUNICABLE DISEASES, UM, THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
UM, AND SO IT'S A VERY SLOW AND METHODICAL PROCESS.
UM, IN THE TRAINING VIDEO, YOU'RE GONNA SEE A GENERALLY COMPLIANT PERSON THAT'S NOT IMPAIRED UNDER CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES, NOT IN CRISIS.
UM, THEY'RE NOT PHYSICALLY TRYING TO HARM THEMSELVES.
UM, AND SO IT'S A MUCH DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE THAN IN THE REALITY OF, OF WHEN WE'RE DOING THIS IN, IN A TRUE LIFE SITUATION.
BUT, UM, IT'S A VERY CONTROLLED AND METHODICAL, UM, SITUATION.
BUT WE, WE TRY TO BE, UM, DELIBERATE AND INTENTIONAL.
WE'RE GIVING COMMANDS IN A VERY CONTROLLED AND CALM, COMPOSED, UM, UM, ENVIRONMENT.
BUT WE'RE ALSO WORKING METHODICALLY TRYING TO SECURE THEIR LEGS AND WORK, WORK THROUGH EACH OF THOSE, UM, KIND OF EXERCISES THAT THE LIEUTENANT KIND OF, UM, UM, SHARED THERE.
BUT WE'LL TRY TO SEE WHAT WE CAN SEE.
AND IF THERE'S AN, UH, A RELEASED VIDEO THAT'S PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE THAT MAY SHOW A, A TRUE LIFE SITUATION THAT'S BETTER REPRESENTATIVE, WE MAY LOOK FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, UM, THAT IS MORE REFLECTIVE AS WELL.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
UM, THE OTHER THING ABOUT THE DASH CAMERAS, I WAS TAKEN BACK BY, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT IN THE BUDGET, BUT GRANTS ARE AVAILABLE, BUT AREN'T NEWER VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH DASH CAMERAS? NO WORRIES.
I THOUGHT ALL NEW CARS HAD THEM.
SO, SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE ADDED TO A CAR.
THE FORD DOESN'T PRODUCE A FORD EXPLORER POLICE PACKAGE WITH A CAMERA IN IT.
IT'S SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO, IT'S AN AFTERMARKET PRODUCT.
AND THEN THE OTHER, UM, THE, UM, THE UNDERREPORTING, CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT UNDERREPORTING WHAT AN EXAMPLE OF UNDERREPORTING WOULD BE? YEAH, SO IN REGARDS TO, SURE.
DO YOU WANT TAKE IT
SO UNDER REPORTING, UH, OCCURS WHEN THERE IS AN INCIDENT, UH, WHICH REQUIRES A REPA REPORT TO BE FILLED OUT.
AND IT'S NOT, I MEAN, THAT'S THE, THE SIMPLE EXPLANATION.
UM, IN OUR DATA, THE DETAILED ANALYSIS OF TOUR ACTIVITY, UM, REVIEW, UM, WE FOUND I THINK TWO OR THREE OF THOSE INSTANCES, UM, WHICH, UH, THE PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS UNIT, UH, TOOK UNDER ADVISEMENT AND ADDRESSED, ISN'T THERE BODY-WORN CAMERA THAT WOULD, THAT AS SOON AS THAT BODY-WORN CAMERA WAS, FOOTAGE WAS SEEN THERE, IT WAS LIKE, WHERE'S THE REPORT TO GO WITH IT? I, I THOUGHT THEY WENT TOGETHER.
NO, THERE, THERE IS NO AUTOMATIC PROCESS THAT IT ACHIEVES THAT PER SE.
SO JEFF, CAN YOU MAYBE JUST IN A COUPLE SENTENCES, RE REFRESH WHAT THE RIPPA, UM, DATA IS LOOKING FOR AND WHAT, LIKE, WHEN THE OFFICER FILLS THAT OUT? SURE.
ANYTIME THERE IS A, UH, A STOP OF AN INDIVIDUAL, UH, VEHICULAR OR PEDESTRIAN, UM, A RIPA FORM IS MEANT TO BE, UH, COMPLETED.
AND THERE ARE CERTAIN DEMOGRAPHIC DATA WHICH IS, UH, REQUIRED FOR THAT FORM.
IT'S FILLED OUT FROM THE OFFICER'S PERSPECTIVE OF THE INDIVIDUAL, NOT
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FROM ACTUAL DATA RELATING TO THE INDIVIDUAL.UM, AND IT INCLUDES AGE, GENDER, ETHNICITY, UM, OF COURSE THEN, UH, INFORMATION RELATING TO THE STOP ITSELF AND THEN, UH, INFORMATION RELATING TO THE OUTCOME OF THAT STOP.
UM, WAS A CITATION GIVEN, WAS A WARNING GIVEN? WAS THERE AN ARREST? WAS THERE A USE OF FORCE? WAS THERE A SEARCH INCIDENT TO ARREST? SO THOSE KIND OF THINGS ARE TRACKED AS WELL.
AND, AND JEFF, I'LL, I'LL JUST ADD A, A LAYER OF COMPLEXITY TO THAT.
AND SO IN THE SIMPLEST FORM THAT IS INCREDIBLY FACTUALLY ACCURATE.
UM, BUT IN, UH, THE REALITIES, AGAIN, OF POLICE WORK, UM, IF, IF A POLICE OFFICER STOPPING A SINGLE VEHICLE WITH A SINGLE OCCUPANT, UM, THAT IS EXACTLY THE LINEAR PROGRESSION OF HOW IT'S DONE, UM, OR IF THERE'S MULTIPLE OCCUPANTS.
BUT, UH, IT ALSO RIPPA IS IF THERE'S ANY DETENTION OR IF THERE'S ANY STOP OR THERE'S ANY, ANY, UM, INTERACTION, UM, AND WE'RE MAKING THOSE, THOSE CONTACTS AND REQUIRED TO DO A RIPPA, RIPPA, UM, CONTACT CARD.
AND SO, UM, WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO ONE CONTACT FOR THAT INCIDENT.
BUT IF THERE'S MULTIPLE OFFICERS DOING MULTIPLE INTERACTIONS AND THERE'S MULTIPLE DETENTIONS AND MULTIPLE INDIVIDUALS, UM, ALL THOSE ARE DONE AND ONE OFFICER IS REQUIRED TO COMPLETE ALL OF THOSE, THOSE FUNCTIONS AND COMPILE ALL OF THOSE THINGS, UM, CUMULATIVELY.
AND SO, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THAT'S A LITTLE CHALLENGING.
AND SO, UM, WE'RE DOING A LOT OF TRAINING AND WORKING TO GATHER ALL THOSE THINGS, BUT AT TIMES THERE'S, UM, SOME, SOME OMISSIONS, UM, INADVERTENTLY, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, SOME OF OUR, UM, CASES AND INCIDENTS ARE COMPLICATED AND COMPLEX AND CONVOLUTED AND, UM, DIFFICULT TO GATHER ALL THE INFORMATION AND, AND THE, THE CONFUSION OF SOME OF THOSE THINGS.
AND, UH, YOU'RE CORRECT THAT THE BODY WEAR WORN CAMERA FOOTAGE IS CAPTURING, UM, A LOT OF THAT INFORMATION.
AND OUR PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS DIVISION IS DOING A GOOD JOB OF GOING BACK AND TRYING TO CAPTURE THOSE INFORMATION AND MAKE CORRECTIONS WHERE WE CAN.
AND WE'RE IDENTIFYING AND, AND WORKING THROUGH SOME OF THESE, THESE, UM, GAPS AND AS BEST OF OUR ABILITY, BUT WE'RE STILL IDENTIFYING SOME THINGS AND TRYING TO TRAIN, TRAIN UP AS, AS OUR STAFF AS BEST WE CAN AND LEARNING A LOT THROUGH THIS PROCESS OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS AS WE ADAPT AND EVOLVE THROUGH THE, THE RPA REPORTING REQUIREMENTS.
THANK, AND I SHOULD NOTE, UH, THAT AS AN APPENDIX TO THE ANNUAL REPORT, THERE IS A RAPID DATA SECTION WHICH COMPARES 2024 TO 2025 ACROSS A VARIETY OF, UM, SUBTABS, IF YOU WILL.
UM, SO YEAH, UH, I'M, I'M GONNA GO NEXT.
I GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS I WANNA SQUEEZE IN THERE.
UH, FIRST QUESTION'S PROBABLY FOR JEFF, UM, FOR THE THREE YEAR POLICY TRENDS, UM, FOR 2023 TO 2025, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO GET IN THE REPORT A COMPARISON AGAINST NATIONAL TRENDS, UM, ACROSS THE SAME DATASET SO THAT WE COULD COMPARE, UM, PETALUMA'S TRENDS OVER THREE YEAR PERIOD TO THE NATIONAL TRENDS? UH, WE'LL LOOK AT THAT AND SEE WHETHER WE CAN DO IT.
THESE, I MEAN, THERE IS CERTAINLY A LOT OF DATA AROUND, UM, CRIME AND NATIONAL TRENDS.
UM, THERE ARE OTHER CITIES THAT WE COULD LOOK AT THAT PUBLISH THEIR DATA, UM, FOR THE SAME CRITERIA, WHICH ARE INCLUDED.
UM, LET US TAKE A LOOK AND IF WE CAN DO IT WITHOUT TOO MUCH, UH, LABOR INTENSITY, WE'LL CERTAINLY BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.
AND YEAH, I THINK THAT'S ALSO A GREAT IDEA OF ANOTHER CITY OF A SIMILAR SIZE AND SIMILAR, SIMILAR DEMOGRAPHIC, JUST SO WE CAN SEE HOW WE COMPARE AGAINST THOSE.
UM, MY NEXT QUESTION WAS ABOUT, YEAH, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.
I'M JUST NOT AWARE OF ANY NATIONAL DATA PER SE THAT, UH, THAT TALKS TO THE SAME, UH, METRICS THAT ARE LAID OUT IN THE REPORT.
ONE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE NOTICED IN LOOKING AT OUR YEARS PAST DATA, 'CAUSE WE'VE BEEN DOING SOME LOOK BACKS JUST FOR COMPARATIVE ANALYSIS, UM, AND INGRID, OUR CLERK HERE, IS DOING MUCH OF THAT ANALYSIS FOR
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US.SO OUR, UM, OUR, UM, SELF-INITIATED ACTIVITY COMPARED TO OUR COMMUNITY DRIVEN ACTIVITY, OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE COMING IN FROM THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS HAS STAYED, STAYED PRETTY CONSISTENT, UM, YEAR OVER YEAR THE LAST COUPLE YEARS.
SO OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE FROM REPORTING, UM, AND CALLS COMING IN FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS HAS STAYED WITHIN, I THINK A, A DECIMAL PERCENTAGE.
UH, RELATIVELY SPEAKING, WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IS BASED ON OUR STAFFING LEVELS THE LAST COUPLE YEARS WE'VE BEEN DOING, AS WE'VE HEARD THE LAST FEW MEETINGS, A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TRAINING AND BUILDING OUR FUNCTIONAL STAFFING BACK UP.
WE STILL HAVE SIX, UH, TRAINEES I THINK IN OUR TRAINING PROGRAM CURRENTLY AS WE SPEAK.
AND WE'VE DONE BEEN DOING A LOT OF WORK BUILDING BACK UP TO FULL STAFFING THE LAST YEAR OR TWO YEARS.
UM, OUR, UH, UM, FUNCTIONAL STAFFING AND OUR OPERATIONAL IMPACT IN PATROL, WE'VE SEEN SOME OF THAT, UM, PATROL, UM, GENERATED ACTIVITY NOT BE WHAT'S CONSISTENTLY, UM, BEEN TO THE LEVEL OF YEARS PAST.
AND SO WHAT I WOULD EXPECT, AND YOU'LL PROBABLY SEE THIS YEAR, AND WE'VE ALREADY SEEN IN THE FIRST FEW MONTHS OF THIS YEAR'S REPORTING INCREASES AS OUR, UH, OUR STAFFING LEVELS HAVE KIND OF BEEN RESTORING SOME OF THAT ACTIVITY LEVEL STARTING TO INCREASE.
SO I WOULDN'T BE ALARMED AND I WOULD EXPECT THIS COMING YEAR TO SEE SOME OF THAT CALLS FOR CALL VOLUME AND SOME OF THAT ACTIVITY LEVEL.
UM, AND ESPECIALLY, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS, AND YOU, WE'VE TALKED HEAVILY AND COUNCIL MEMBER NOW CAN SPEAK TO IT.
ONE OF OUR, UM, PARAMOUNT INITIATIVES THIS YEAR HAS BEEN FOCUSING ON TRAFFIC SAFETY AND DOING TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT AND DOING SPEED ENFORCEMENT.
AND SO WE HAVE SEEN A MARKED IMPROVEMENT IN TRAFFIC STOPS FOCUSING ON PRIMARY COLLISION FACTORS.
AND SO, UM, I WOULD EXPECT TO SEE, UM, MORE CITATION INFORMATION AND MORE TRAFFIC STOP INFORMATION, WHICH SHOULD IN TURN SHOW MORE RIPA CONTACTS BECAUSE OF THOSE ARE REQUIRED REPORTING INFORMATION.
SO AGAIN, I JUST OFFER THAT, AS YOU MAY SEE, INCREASES THIS YEAR, AND I DON'T WANT THERE TO BE CAUSE NECESSARILY FOR AN ALARM, BUT THAT MAY SHOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE INCREASE BASED ON A STAFFING INCREASE THIS COMING YEAR.
UH, MY NEXT QUESTION WAS ABOUT USE OF FORCE AND DISPLAY OF FORCE.
UM, YOU TALKED ABOUT TRANSPARENCY STATEMENTS.
I'M CURIOUS IF WHEN THERE'S A USE OF FORCE OR DISPLAY OF FORCE, IS THERE A TRANSPARENCY STATEMENT THAT GOES OUT TO THE PERSON BEFORE THAT USE OF FORCE IS ENACTED? AND ARE TRANSPARENCY STATEMENTS ALWAYS BILINGUAL OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? IF YOU HAVE SOMEONE THAT MAY NOT, UM, HAVE ENGLISH AS A NATIVE LANGUAGE, I'LL LET THE PD HANDLE THAT.
SO I THINK THERE'S, UM, SO JUST IF WE CAN DEFINE WHAT A TRANSPARENCY STATEMENT IS, BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, UM, HOW WHEN THE AUDITOR USES TRANSPARENCY STATEMENT, HE BASICALLY IS SAYING THAT, UH, PRIOR TO GOING HANDS-ON OR PLACING SOMEBODY UNDER ARREST, THAT WE ADVISE THEM THAT THEY ARE IN FACT UNDER ARREST.
AND WHAT FOR, UM, SO THE PENAL CODE DOES REQUIRE US TO DO THAT, BUT IT DOESN'T TELL US AT WHAT POINT IN THE INTERACTION WE HAVE TO DO IT.
AND, UM, WHAT YOU SEEM TO BE TALKING ABOUT IS A WARNING, A USE OF FORCE WARNING, SO THE 2D TWO DIFFERENT CONCEPTS.
UM, SO IN MOST CASES, UM, WE DO, WE DO TEACH TO PROVIDE A WARNING BEFORE YOU FORCE USED, BUT IN NOT ALL SITUATIONS WILL BE APPLICABLE.
UH, FOR INSTANCE, GOING HANDS-ON WITH SOMEBODY AND YOU'RE HANDCUFFING THEM AND THEY START TO RESIST, UH, IN, IN THE MOMENT, UM, WHILE YOU TRY TO CONTROL THEM, YOU MAY BE CONTEMPORANEOUSLY WARNING THEM THAT GREATER FORCE WILL BE USED, BUT YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DO IT PRIOR TO THE USE OF FORCE BECAUSE IT'S HAPPENING UPON, UM, THE OFFICERS REACTING TO THE SUSPECT'S ACTIONS.
UM, IN SITUATIONS WHERE YOU HAVE, UH, 10 STANDOFFS, UM, AND THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO, UH, WE WILL GIVE, UH, WARNINGS PRIOR TO FORCE.
UM, AND THEN CERTAIN POLICIES, UH, FOR INSTANCE, THE TA TASER POLICY, UM, THE LAW STATES IN A USE OF FORCE SITUATION WHERE FEASIBLE YOU SHALL GIVE A WARNING, UM, BUT AGAIN, WHILE FEASIBLE, SO DIFFERING DIFFERENT SITUATIONS CALL FOR DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES IN TERMS OF IF, UM, IF THEY'RE BILINGUAL, IF WE HAVE A SPANISH SPEAKING OFFICER ON SCENE AND THE WE KNOW THE SUSPECT DOES NOT SPEAK ENGLISH AND, AND SPEAK SPANISH, WE WILL ENSURE THAT THAT IS PROVIDED IN BOTH LANGUAGES WHERE THE OPPORTUNITY PRESENTS ITSELF.
AND YOU MIGHT NOT KNOW THIS RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD, BUT ABOUT HOW MANY, WHAT PERCENT, IS IT STILL AROUND LIKE 20%, 25% OF THE STAFF THAT SPEAK SPANISH? I DON'T KNOW THAT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT, UH, IT'S, IT'S WITHIN THAT BALLPARK, YES.
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THAT HELPS A LOT.YEAH, THAT, THAT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TRANSPARENCY STATEMENTS AND WARNINGS MAKES SENSE.
UH, ANOTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS ABOUT BODY-WORN CAMERAS AND THE BUFFER POLICY.
AND I KNOW WE WENT OVER, UM, BWC LAST, UH, LAST UH, MEETING, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME OUTTA THAT WAS A LOT OF THE POLICY AROUND BUFFERING SEEMS TO BE DRIVEN BY BEST PRACTICES IN TERMS OF BATTERY LENGTH AND CHARGING.
AND I WAS WONDERING IF THERE'S ANY RECOMMENDATIONS TO REVIEW LARGER BATTERY CAPACITIES, MULTIPLE BODY-WORN CAMERA UNITS PER OFFICER.
SO IT ALLOWED THEM TO CHARGE IN PARALLEL.
LIKE I WAS WONDERING IF THERE'S ANYTHING IN THIS REPORT THAT WAS GOING TO TRY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE PUSH AND PULL THAT HAS TO HAPPEN BETWEEN THE LENGTH OF THE BATTERY CHARGE AND WANTING TO GET MORE BUFFERING TIME AND MORE COVERAGE WITH BODY-WORN CAMERAS.
I COULD SPEAK, UH, DIRECTLY TO THAT.
SO AXON, RIGHT? OH, GO ON NICK.
NO, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY IN OUR REVIEWS, UM, WE HAVEN'T SEEN BUFFERING AS AN ISSUE.
UM, THERE IS A QUESTION AS TO HOW LONG THE, UH, BUFFER SHOULD BE, RIGHT? IT CAN BE 30 SECONDS.
AND JUST FOR EVERYBODY'S BENEFIT, WHAT THAT MEANS, ESSENTIALLY, THE THE CAMERA IS ALWAYS RECORDING, RIGHT? IT'S A CONTINUOUS RECORD WHEN THE BUTTON IS HIT ON THE CAMERA, UM, IT THEN MEMORIALIZES THE 30 SECONDS PRIOR TO THE BUTTON BEING HIT.
AND, UH, YOU GET THAT PERIOD OF TIME WITHOUT SOUND, AND THEN YOU GO INTO THE REGULAR MODE.
UM, AT THE MOMENT THAT THE BUTTON IS HIT, YOU START HEARING SOUND AS, AS, AS WELL, THAT PERIOD IS ADJUSTABLE.
UM, BUT BEST PRACTICE AROUND THE COUNTRY IS THE 32ND BUFFER, UH, WHICH IS USED.
AND I DON'T BELIEVE, AND PLEASE, UM, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, FOLKS FROM THE DEPARTMENT THAT THE BUFFERING ISSUE IS RELATED TO THE BATTERY ISSUE.
THE BATTERY ISSUE IS REALLY ONE WHICH OCCURS BECAUSE OF ELONGATED SHIFTS, UM, AND FRANKLY DOESN'T OCCUR VERY OFTEN IN OUR EXPERIENCE.
BUT LIEUTENANT PLEASE, I'LL SPEAK TO, UH, SOME OF THE COMPONENTS TO THEN IN TERMS OF YOUR QUESTION.
SO FIRST AND FOREMOST, THE, UH, AXON GENERATION FOUR, WHICH IS THE CURRENT CAMERAS THAT WE HAVE, THEY DON'T HAVE THE CAPABILITIES OF CHANGING BATTERIES.
SO IT'S ALL INCLUDED WITHIN THE FIRMWARE OF THAT DEVICE.
UM, IN TERMS OF HAVING AN OFFICER WITH MULTIPLE CAMERAS, UH, AXON ISSUES US ONE CAMERA PER, UM, OFFICER, IN TERMS OF A PACKAGE THAT WE PAY FOR ON A MONTHLY ANNUAL, SO FORTH BASIS, UM, THAT CAMERA IS LOGGED IN WITH THAT OFFICER'S INFORMATION IN OUR CAD SYSTEM, OUR COMPUTER, COMPUTER AUTOMATED DISPATCH.
SO WHEN AN OFFICER IS DISPATCHED TO A CALL FOR SERVICE AND THEY ACTIVATE THEIR CAMERA, IT AUTOMATICALLY SYNCS TO THAT CALL FOR SERVICE AND THE DATA IS INTEGRATED.
SO WHEN WE DO REVO REVIEWS, WHEN WE HAVE POLICE REPORTS, WHEN THERE'S DISCOVERY THAT NEEDS TO GO UP TO THE DA'S OFFICE, IT'S THE, THE EVIDENCE IS CAPTURED WITHIN THAT CASE MODULE, SO TO SPEAK.
SO IF WE HAD MULTIPLE CAMERAS, THEN IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO MANAGE HOW DATA IS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF DISSEMINATED.
IF LIEUTENANT LAVIANO GRABS MY CAMERA BECAUSE HIS GO IS OUT OF BATTERIES, UM, THEN WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS SOMEONE WOULD HAVE TO MANUALLY GO IN AND EDIT, UM, WHAT OFFICER WAS AND FOR EACH OF THOSE EVENTS THAT THAT PERSON, THAT OFFICER RESPONDED TO.
SO, UM, RIGHT NOW THE TECHNOLOGY WOULDN'T SUPPORT HAVING MULTIPLE CAMERAS PER ID NUMBER.
AND THEN WITH REGARDS TO THE BUFFERING, UM, SO IF I'M BUFFERING SAY TWO MINUTES, THEN THAT CAMERA'S GONNA BE, IT IS LIVE, UH, LIVE FEED CURRENT, YOU KNOW, THE CAMERA'S ALWAYS ON.
UM, BUT IT WILL, YOU KNOW, ACCORDING TO AXON, IT WILL DETERIORATE THE BATTERY QUICKER BECAUSE IT HAS TO KEEP THAT TWO MINUTES IN RECORDED IN ITS BANK WHILE THAT PERSON'S GOING THROUGHOUT THEIR SHIFT.
UM, AND JUST FOR, FOR REFERENCE, UH, BUTTER AND EGG DAY, UM, YOU KNOW, MULTIPLE HOUR EVENT, UH, HAD BWC ON, UM, I DRAINED MY, UH, APPROXIMATELY 60% OF MY BATTERY, UM, JUST DURING, YOU KNOW, INTERACTING WITH THE COMMUNITY, UM, ACTIVATING IT WHEN NEEDED, UM, DOWNTOWN.
SO THE BATTERIES, YOU KNOW, ARE DESIGNED REALLY TO LAST A SHIFT.
AND IF WE MODIFY THOSE SETTINGS FURTHER THAN, THAN IT COULD POTENTIALLY, UH, PUT US IN A POSITION WHERE AN OFFICER WOULD HAVE A, UH, A DEAD CAMERA.
UH, ONE LAST QUESTION AND THEN I'LL STOP.
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FOR RIPA, THE IPA, IT, IT SOUNDS LIKE, JEFF, YOU WERE SAYING THAT THE IPA ROLE IS TO COLLECT THE DATA, BUT NOT TO DETERMINE CAUSALITY, UH, OR BIAS.UM, I'M WONDERING WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR SORT OF ATTEMPTING TO CORRELATE RIPA DATA TO MAKE INFERENCES ON CAUSALITY AND DETERMINE IF POLICY OR ACAS SHOULD BE ADOPTED.
LIKE I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S NOT THE ROLE OF THE IPA, BUT I'M WONDERING WHO'S, WHO HAS THAT FUNCTIONALITY THEN? YEAH, SO THIS IS A, AN AREA OF MUCH ACADEMIC PURSUIT AND THE ANSWERS ARE NOT VERY SIMPLE IN THIS AREA.
UM, THERE ARE DIFFERENT WAYS OF LOOKING AT THE DATA AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, COMING UPON THE RIGHT DENOMINATORS, UH, FOR THE DATA.
UM, WE KNOW THAT POPULATION IS A VERY IMPERFECT DENOMINATE DENOMINATOR.
UM, BUT FOR INSTANCE, FOR, UH, USES OF FORCE, WHAT IS THE APPROPRIATE DENOMINATOR THERE? UM, IS IT ARRESTS? IS IT ARRESTS AND CITATIONS? UM, SO AGAIN, AN AREA OF A LOT OF ACADEMIC, UH, DISCUSSION.
I THINK YOU'LL REMEMBER THAT, UH, DR.
FIDEL, UH, TALKED ABOUT THIS WITH, UH, YOU ALL, UM, THERE IS NOBODY CURRENTLY, UH, THAT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT IN THE CITY, AND THE STATE PRODUCES A REPORT, UH, ANNUALLY.
AND THAT REPORT, AGAIN, I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT THIS YEAR, UM, BUT AS FAR AS I RECALL, DOES NOT MAKE DIRECT, UH, CAUSAL CONNECTIONS, UH, EITHER.
THAT'S PROBABLY AN UNSATISFACTORY ANSWER, BUT IT IS THE ANSWER THAT, UH, YEAH.
SO IT IS, IS NO, I, I APPRECIATE IT.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND.
SO WE COLLECT THE RIPPA DATA, WE CORRELATE THE RIPPA DATA, WE REPORT ON THE RIPPA DATA, BUT RIGHT NOW THERE IS NO ENTITY OR, UH, THERE'S NO ONE THAT ACTUALLY TAKES THAT DATA AND TRIES TO EVEN ATTEMPT TO MAKE, UM, CAUSALITY OR MAKE DEPARTMENT POLICY OR ACAS BASED ON THAT.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THAT.
AND THERE ARE TWO CAVEATS THAT I'LL, I'LL OFFER.
ONE IS WERE WE TO SEE SOMETHING CRAZY UNUSUAL, UM, AND WE WOULD RECOGNIZE THAT BY VIRTUE OF OUR EXPERIENCE, WE WOULD DIVE DEEPLY INTO WHAT MIGHT BE CAUSING THAT.
UM, AND NUMBER TWO, WITH RESPECT TO THE POTENTIAL OF BIAS BEING AN ISSUE IN EVERY INCIDENT THAT WE REVIEW, WE ARE LOOKING FOR ANY OVERT SIGN OF, OF BIAS, UM, AND HAVEN'T FOUND ANY INCIDENTS WITH, WITH THAT.
YEAH, AND I, JEFF, I WOULD, I WOULD ECHO AND SUPPORT THAT, YOU KNOW, ALL OF OUR REPORTING IS YOUR, YOU, UH, YOU ARTICULATED IS COLLECTED, UM, AND GATHERED AND THEN CROSS REPORTED OR DIRECTLY REPORTED, UM, MORE ACCURATELY, UM, AND IMMEDIATELY SUBMITTED TO THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.
UM, SO AS WE GATHER IT, IT'S, IT'S, UM, CHECKED FOR ERRORS, UM, OR AT LEAST CHECKED FOR, UM, UM, VALIDATION THAT EACH BOX IS COMPLETED AND, AND THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A CATEGORY THAT'S INCOMPLETE, UM, FROM A FIELD ENTRY STANDPOINT, NOT SUBMITTED ACCURATELY, UM, OR MISSING A CATEGORY ENTRY, BUT THEN IT'S DIRECTLY SUBMITTED TO DEPARTMENT JUSTICE, UM, AT THE TIME OF SUBMISSION.
UM, AND DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE GETS THAT INFORMATION, IT IS, IS COMPILED IN THEIR REPORTING.
UM, WE ALSO LIKE, UM, COMPLAINT DATA BIASED, UM, UM, COMPLAINT DATA IS ALSO REVIEWED THERE.
AND SO DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE IS WHAT IS OVERSEEING ALL OF THOSE, THOSE KIND OF CATEGORIES AND COULD LAUNCH AN INVESTIGATION INTO ANY LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY THROUGH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICES, IF THERE'S SOME ANOMALIES THERE, UM, OR CONCERNS OF BIAS POLICING.
WE'VE SEEN THAT DONE IN A NUMBER OF OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES IN THE STATES WHERE THERE'S BEEN COMPLAINTS OR I IMPROPRIETY OR MISCONDUCT OF CONCERN AND THEY CAN, UM, GO IN AND DO, DO
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THOSE TYPE OF INVESTIGATIONS.UM, AND VERY MUCH SO THAT, UM, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, POLICIES FOR BIAS BASED POLICING.
UM, WE HAVE, UM, A NUMBER OF OTHER, UM, REVIEWS THAT ARE LOOKING FOR ALL THOSE KIND OF COMPONENTS AS WELL THAT WOULD BE GUIDING, UM, THOSE, THOSE CONCERNS IF WE ARE SEEING THOSE IRREGULARITIES.
AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE THINGS THAT I, I THINK THE AUDITOR IS LOOKING FROM A SECONDARY LENS FROM THE, THE PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS TO BE AUDITING OUR, OUR REVIEWS TO BE ENSURING THAT, THAT THERE'S NOTHING THAT THE DEPARTMENT'S NOT LOOKING FOR, UM, FROM THAT PRELIMINARY REVIEW AND SUPERVISORY REVIEW AS WELL.
AND I JUST WANT TO ALSO, UM, REMIND THE COMMITTEE THAT WE DID NOT OPEN THIS ITEM UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE ONSET.
UM, SO WE DO NEED TO, UH, AT LEAST OPEN IT TO PUBLIC COMMENT AS WELL.
SO, UH, CHAIR, MR. CHAIR, GO AHEAD.
UM, WHEN IT COMES TO THE RIPPA DATA, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE PROFESSOR OR THE DOCTOR THAT PRESENTED ON IT WAS THAT WHEN YOU COMPARE THE DATA OF THE COMMUNITY, RIGHT, THE CITY OF PETALUMA POPULATION, THOSE THAT ARE COMMITTING THE CRIMES OR THOSE THAT ARE GETTING PULLED OVER, JUST IF WE TAKE THE DUI, FOR EXAMPLE, A GOOD PERCENTAGE OF THE FOLKS THAT ARE GETTING ARRESTED FOR DUI AND PETALUMA AREN'T PETALUMA RESIDENTS.
AND SO IT, IT'S NOT ALWAYS REFLECTIVE OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMMITTING THE CRIMES HERE ISN'T ALWAYS REFLECTIVE OF THE COMMUNITY IN WHICH WE LIVE IN.
UM, AND WE'VE SEEN THAT I, YOU KNOW, JUST WHEN YOU LOOK AT DUI ARRESTS, A LOT OF IT IS FOLKS THAT COME FROM OUT OF TOWN TO VISIT OUR BARS OR OUR RESTAURANTS AND UM, END UP COMMITTING THE CRIME OF, OF DRINKING AND DRIVING.
AND SO IT'S NOT, IF WE WERE, I THINK THE, A FAIR COMPARISON WOULD BE IF WE TOOK THE OVERALL BAY AREA POPULATION DATA AND COMPARED IT TO WHAT OUR RIPPA DATA WOULD BE, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A BETTER REPRESENTATION THAN JUST SPECIFICALLY THE CITY OF PETALUMA'S POPULATION DATA.
UM, AND I THINK WE DISCUSSED IT A LITTLE BIT, WHAT, OVER A YEAR AGO OR WHENEVER WE TALKED ABOUT THAT LAST.
I THINK THAT, AND, AND I'LL JUST SAY AS WELL, I THINK THAT THERE'S DEFINITELY A, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S DEFINITELY AN OPPORTUNITY IN THE DATA TO LOOK AT CAUSALITY AND TRY AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE ISN'T ANY BIAS.
BUT I ALSO, YOU KNOW, IN LOOKING AT THE DATA THAT I CAN SEE, THERE MAY ACTUALLY BE OPPORTUNITIES THERE FOR JUST BETTER COMMUNITY POLICING AND SORT OF UNDERSTANDING HOW TO IMPROVE POLICING IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO I, I JUST DON'T WANT EVERYONE TO GET FOCUSED ON IS THERE OR ISN'T THERE BIAS AND USING, AND ONLY LOOKING AT THE DATA AS A WAY TO DETERMINE THAT CAUSALITY.
I THINK THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF DATA THERE THAT COULD BE USED TO HELP COMMUNITY POLICING, COMMUNITY OUTREACH, AND MAKE SURE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, AS WE INTERACT WITH DIFFERENT COMMUNITY MEMBERS, WHETHER THEY'RE FROM PETALUMA OR, OR FROM OUTSIDE OF PETALUMA, THAT WE'RE SORT OF TAKING THAT INTO ACCOUNT.
AND SO I UNDERSTAND IT'S DIFFICULT.
LIKE I SAID, THERE'S, LIKE, I AGREE WITH JEFF, THERE'S PROBABLY PEOPLE THAT HAVE A LOT MORE DEGREES THAN I HAVE THAT ARE ALSO STRUGGLING WITH HOW TO, UM, YOU KNOW, COME UP WITH, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING CONSISTENT OUT OF THAT DATA.
BUT, UM, IT JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT, THAT SOMEONE, SOME ENTITY, WHETHER IT'S IS THIS COMMITTEE OR SOME OTHER COMMITTEE, SOME COMMITTEE SHOULD BE, AT LEAST IF WE'RE ASKING OFFICERS TO FILL OUT THIS RIPA CARD AND TO COLLECT ALL THIS DATA, WHICH TAKES THEIR TIME AND EFFORT TO SORT OF PUT THE DATA INTO THE SYSTEM THAT SOME ENTITY SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR AT LEAST MAKING AN ATTEMPT TO SAY, IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN TURN THIS DATA INTO BETTER POLICING AND BETTER POLICY, AT LEAST AS A RECOMMENDATION.
NO, I, I, I THINK I MISUNDERSTOOD YOUR QUESTION.
I, AS FAR AS RESPONSIBILITY, I, I DON'T KNOW, UM, REALLY MAYBE HOW TO ANSWER THAT.
I WOULD SAY FROM AN ORGANIZATIONAL STANDPOINT, WE'RE CONSTANTLY LOOKING AND, AND GATHERING INFORMATION.
I KNOW JEFF IS, IS, UH, CONSTANTLY DOING THE SAME THING.
AND WHETHER IT'S GOING TO NICOLE TRAINING OR LOOKING TO PERF AND OTHER, UM, YOU KNOW, LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES OR OVERSIGHT BODIES, UM, AND TALKING IN THE INDUSTRY ABOUT WHAT ARE THE APPROPRIATE BENCHMARKING STANDARDS TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS, I THINK THAT CONTINUES TO BE A, A DISCUSSION OF, OF MOVING CONSENSUS.
AND I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYONE HAS NECESSARILY, UM, IDENTIFIED WHAT IS THE APPROPRIATE STANDARD THERE, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE CONSTANTLY LOOKING AT THAT AND WEIGHING, WEIGHING THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND, UM, LOOKING, LOOKING AT THOSE VERY SAME THINGS.
SO, UM, HAPPY TO CONTINUE THAT.
AND WE, WE ARE, ARE, UM, INTERESTED IN THE SAME THING.
WE WANT TO BETTER SERVE THE COMMUNITY, BY ALL MEANS.
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I KNOW WE HAVE NINE MINUTES AND, AND JUST ONE LAST POINT.IF I MAN, THAT IT'S NOT JUST THE WHO IS BEING STOPPED, IT'S WHAT HAPPENS AFTER, UH, THE STOP AS WELL, WHO'S BEING SEARCHED, WHO'S BEING GIVEN WARNINGS, UH, AS OPPOSED TO WHO'S BEING ARRESTED.
THERE IS A, A LOT OF DATA THAT IS COLLECTED TO YOUR POINT, MR. CHAIR.
UM, AND, UM, WE, WE PRESENT IT, BUT WE ARE NOT ANALYZING IT.
SO I COMMEND YOU ALL TO THE, UH, THE PRESENTATION AND IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE AT A LATER TIME.
I, I KNOW THAT THERE'S PROBABLY MORE QUESTIONS.
THEN I'M GOING TO QUICKLY MOVE US ON TO, UM, OPEN PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE PRESENTATION ITEM AND ASK SPEAKERS TO BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARDS TO THE CLERK'S DESK IF THEY HAVE NOT ALREADY.
I THINK FOR THE SAKE OF TIME, WE CAN START WITH THE FIRST COMMENTER AND WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS ON ANY AGENDA ITEMS PRIOR TO THE MEETING.
THEN I'M GONNA JUMP TO THE FIRST COMMENTER, UH, MICHAEL MISLER.
GREAT PRESENTATIONS THIS EVENING.
SO INFORMATIVE AND ON BEHALF OF OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE COUNCIL, UM, STAFF, WONDERFUL JOB.
UM, I GUESS ONE ITEM THAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR, AND I, UH, WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH THE CITIZENS, UM, POLICE ADVISORY, UM, COUNCIL, I DID, OR I SHOULDN'T SAY THE COUNCIL
AND SO, UM, WHEN OUR POLICE ARE GOING THROUGH A CODE THREE, UM, SITUATION, UM, I LIKE TO LOOK ON NICKEL AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
AND I SOMETIMES, AT LEAST IN ONE INSTANCE, I SAW WHERE THERE WAS, UM, UH, IN THE NEWSPAPER, BUT I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN NICKEL.
I THOUGHT WE'D, I THINK WE WOULD WANT TO HAVE OUR CITIZENS AND, AND, AND THIS MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE INSTANCE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT, WHERE IF IT HAPPENED TO BE IT RESULTED IN SOME TYPE OF A CRIMINAL OR MAYBE EVEN A, A CIVIL, I, I REALIZE THERE'S SOMETIMES WHERE THAT'S SENSITIVE, BUT IT WOULD BE NICE, I THINK IF EVEN OUR ADVISORY COUNCIL, UM, COULD GET INFORMATION FROM THE AUDITORS TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE ACCOUNTABLE TO THE CITIZENS.
I JUST THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD THING.
I'LL MAKE IT VERY QUICK WITH THE NEXT ITEM WRAP.
UM, UM, COUNCILMAN NOW, I GUESS IS THAT IF YOU LOOK ON YOUTUBE, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE NUMBER ONE MOST POPULAR IS WITH A, A DETAINMENT AND HAVING TO USE IT AS A LOT OF PEOPLE, IT'S KIND OF DARK BECAUSE THESE ARE NIGHT SITUATIONS, BUT IT'S, IT GIVES YOU REALLY THE RAWNESS OF WHAT HAPPENS AND HOW THEY PROFESSIONALLY RESPOND.
AND THEN THE NUMBER TWO ITEM WAS, UM, A, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENT WHERE THEY'RE SHOWING US MORE OF A TRAINING TYPE OF THING.
AND LASTLY, REGARDING THIS ISSUE OF, UM, DATA AND, AND FOR MINORITIES AND THINGS, UM, IF YOU'LL RECALL IS THAT WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE DATA FROM OUR, UM, AUDITORS, IS THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY REALLY SPOKE TOO MUCH ABOUT IT, BUT I DID USING AI IN TERMS OF THE HIGHLIGHTS, UM, BEFORE I GOT HERE, IT SAID OFFICERS STILL NEED TO IMPROVE THEIR COLLECTION OF DEMOGRAPHIC DATA.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR MORE THAN ONE YEAR.
UM, MY SENSE IS, IS JUST WHAT WAS SAID TONIGHT IS IT'S HARD TO FIGURE WHAT'S ON THE DENOMINATOR FOR THE DATA.
UM, SOME MIGHT THINK IS THAT, UM, LIKE THE FBI CRIME DATABASE IS VERY GOOD, VERY ROBUST.
I PERSONALLY WOULDN'T THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD.
UM, I WOULD SAY ECONOMIC DATA IS PROBABLY THE BEST ITEM THAT YOU WOULD EVER GET AND TAKE A LOOK AT NEVADA OR SANTA ROSA OR DIFFERENT CITIES.
THAT STILL IS GONNA BE SKEWED THOUGH, BECAUSE YOU HAVE THINGS LIKE COVD, YOU HAVE THINGS LIKE, UM, DOES THE CITY HAVE A LOT OF TOURISM, AS YOU MENTIONED, GABE, IN TERMS OF DIFFERENT CITIES HAVING PEOPLE FROM OUTTA THE CITY.
SO YOU CAN'T JUST TAKE A LOOK AT THE, UM, POPULATION DATABASE.
ANYWAY, JUST WANTED TO SHARE SOME THOUGHTS WITH YOU.
UH, NEXT SPEAKER IS NINA ZITO.
THANK YOU CHIEF MILLER FOR RECOGNIZING THAT PUBLIC COMMENT HADN'T BEEN PROVIDED FOR.
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HEARING THE PRESENTATION, HOW AUDIT, UM, DATA ARE COLLECTED.UH, I WAS TOLD THAT THEY ARE RANDOM, BUT I'M CURIOUS HOW RANDOM AND, UM, IF WE'RE GONNA BE COLLECTING DATA, THERE ARE STANDARDS LIKE GOING IN, UH, COMING AT IT FROM A, FOR EXAMPLE, CLINICAL TRIAL PERSPECTIVE, THERE JUST WAYS TO ANTICIPATE HOW THE NUMBERS ARE GONNA LAND.
SO YOU CAN COME UP WITH STATIST STATISTICAL, SORRY, SIGNIFICANCE, WHICH IS KIND OF THE POINT WHERE ANY CONCLUSION YOU MIGHT DRAW IS IN FACT MEANINGFUL, STATISTICALLY RELEVANT.
AND, UM, ANYWAY, UH, SO I, I, THAT IS INFORMATION THAT I'D LIKE TO HAVE, UH, MOVING FORWARD.
UH, I KNOW WE'RE SHORT ON TIME, SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TAKE ITEM FOUR AND FIVE, WHICH IS DISCUSS THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMITTEE ANNUAL REPORT AND REVIEW OF THE LONG RANGE CALENDAR, AND WE MOVE THOSE TO THE NEXT MEETING.
WOULD ANYONE SECOND THAT? I, UH, SPOKE TO A COMMUNITY MEMBER AND I BASICALLY PROMISED THAT I WOULD SUGGEST SOMETHING FOR A UPCOMING TOPIC, AND I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT IF AT ALL POSSIBLE.
DO WE, UH, HAVE TO EXTEND THE TIME? DOES ANYONE, IS ANYONE ABLE TO EXTEND THE TIME? MR. CHAIR, WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS IF, IF WE DO WHAT YOU JUST SUGGESTED, THAT THE COMMITTEE MEMBER CAN THEN BRING IT UP IN COMMITTEE COMMENT AND IT'S STILL RECORDED IN YOUR MEETING, THEN WHAT THAT PERSON WANTS, THE THE PERSON IS NOT GONNA COME TO THIS MEETING.
THE PERSON WAS SUGGESTED TO TALK TO ME AND I SAID I WOULD BRING IT TO THIS COMMITTEE.
YEAH, BUT COMMITTEE COMMENT IS FOR YOU TO THEN COMMENT AND PROVIDE WHATEVER YOU WANNA SAY.
THE COMMITTEE COMMENT IS A TIME WHERE COMMITTEE MEMBERS CAN SAY WHAT THEY WANNA SAY.
BUT IT'S ABOUT, IT'S ABOUT A, IT'S ABOUT A, AN UPCOMING TOPIC.
I'M JUST GONNA SKIP FOUR OR FIVE AND WE'LL KEEP COMMITTEE.
THEN WE'LL MOVE, UH, ITEM FOUR AND FIVE TO NEXT MONTH AND WE'LL MOVE TO
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COMMITTEE COMMENT.SO I MET WITH A WOMAN WHO WAS VICIOUSLY BITTEN BY HER THEN NEXTDOOR NEIGHBOR'S DOG IN 2024.
THE WOMAN HAD A HORRIBLE EXPERIENCE INTERACTING WITH NORTH BAY ANIMAL SERVICES ABOUT TRYING TO GET PROTECTION FOR HERSELF AND POTENTIALLY OTHERS.
THE WOMAN SOUGHT HELP FROM THE CITY, BUT NO ONE WAS EVEN ABLE TO PROVIDE HER WITH DOCUMENTS TO SUPPORT AN EMAIL FROM OUR CITY MANAGER THAT THE DOG WAS DEEMED DANGEROUS.
UM, YOU MAY WONDER WHAT THIS HAS TO DO WITH THIS COMMITTEE, BUT IN CASE YOU DON'T KNOW, THE CITY JUST LAST MONTH TERMINATED ITS CONTRACT WITH THE NORTH BAY ANIMAL SERVICES FOLLOWING A SCATHING, UM, GRAND JURY, CIVIL GRAND JURY REPORT, AND COMMUNITY ACRY.
THE WOMAN'S EXPERIENCE HIGHLIGHTS THAT NORTH BAY WAS OPERATING AS A SILO AND ITS OPERATION, AND THE CITY WAS NOT MONITORING ITS OPERATIONS.
DESPITE THAT ANIMAL CONTROL AFFECTS THE SAFETY OF THE PUBLIC.
THE CITY'S MUNICIPAL CODE SECTION 9.24 GOVERNS DANGEROUS AND POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS ANIMALS AND SETS, SETS FORTH PROCEDURES FOR AN ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER TO INVESTIGATE ANY REPORTED INCIDENTS AND A HEARING OFFICER TO CONDUCT A HEARING TO DECIDE IF THE ANIMAL IS DANGEROUS OR POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS.
AND IF IT IS ORDER ABATEMENT CONDITIONS THAT THE OWNER MUST FOLLOW, ANOTHER SECTION PROVIDES FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES, INCLUDING THAT VIOLATIONS CAN BE PROSECUTED AS A CRIMINAL OFFENSE, CONSIDERING WE'LL SOON HAVE A NEW ANIMAL SERVICES PROVIDER.
IT SEEMS LIKE A GREAT TIME TO AT LEAST DISCUSS GETTING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT INVOLVED IN ALL ABATEMENT ACTIONS, IF ONLY TO COLLECT INFORMATION ABOUT DOGS DEEMED DANGEROUS OR POSSIBLY DANGEROUS, AND THE CONDITIONS IMPOSED ON THE DOG'S OWNER.
A CENTRAL REGISTRY COULD MAKE IT EASIER TO TRACK VIOLATIONS OR CONDITIONS, MAKE IT EASY FOR POLICE TO KNOW WHERE DANGEROUS DOGS LIVE, IF THEY HAVE TO RESPOND TO A SERVICE CALL AND AVOID CITY LIABILITY.
IF A DOG, A DOG DEEMED DANGEROUS ATTACK SOMEONE ON CITY PROPERTY.
JUDGING BY THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING ABOUT THE NORTH BAY ANIMAL SERVICES, I IMAGINE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY WILL BE VERY INTERESTED IN THIS TOPIC.
WILL WE BE EXTENDING THE MEETING? UH, I THINK WE'RE READY TO CLOSE, BUT I DEFINITELY WOULD SAY LET'S ADD THAT TO NEXT MONTH'S LONG RANGE CALENDAR, UH, DISCUSSION.
THE ANIMAL SERVICES COMMITTEE OVERSEES THAT JURISDICTION.
WE DON'T HAVE AN ANIMAL SERVICE.
YEAH, BUT I CAN UPDATE REAL FAST IN 60 SECONDS LEFT.
I THINK WE'D HAVE TO, I THINK WE'D HAVE TO EXTEND AT THIS
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POINT.DO WE, DO WE HAVE A, I'LL MOVE TO EXTEND FOR FIVE MINUTES.
SO, UM, WE NOW HAVE MARIN HUMANE SOCIETY WHO IS OVERSEEING OUR ANIMAL SERVICES AS AN INTERIM BEFORE WE THEN GET A PERMANENT.
SO IF IT'S A NINE ONE ONE CALL AND A AND THE POLICE WERE INVOLVED ALONG WITH AN ANIMAL, YOU KNOW, UM, A LOST ANIMAL OR, OR AN ABANDONED ANIMAL OR WHATEVER THE SITUATION, WHATEVER THE CALL IS, WE NOW GET A WEEKLY UPDATE TO THE CITY, WHICH WE DISCOVER THAT NORTH BAY ANIMAL SHELTER WAS NOT DOING THE REPORTS.
AND WHEN THERE'S A A DOG BITE, THERE IS PROTOCOLS BEING IN PLACE.
AND THE CITY MANAGER TALKED ABOUT THAT ON MONDAY NIGHT BECAUSE THE PERSON THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO HAS MET WITH ALL OF US, AND SHE CAME TO THE MEETING AND SOON OUR CITY MANAGER WILL BE COMING OUT WITH WHAT THE NEW PROTOCOLS WILL BE BECAUSE IT WILL BE IN OUR NEW SERVICE PROVIDERS CONTRACT.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? FANTASTIC.
I SO HOPE THAT, WE'LL, WE'LL ALSO TALK ABOUT MAYBE HAVING THE POLICE BE A LITTLE BIT CONTROLLED.
I MEAN, UM, LIKE AT LEAST HAVING INFORMATION ABOUT THIS, AND AGAIN, WE COULD JUST TALK ABOUT IT NEXT TIME, BUT FOR THOSE THREE REASONS THAT, UH, IS, THIS IS A MATTER OF PUBLIC SAFETY WHEN IT'S A DOG DEEMED DANGEROUS OR POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS.
AND I WOULD MAYBE DEFER TO OUR DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY, BUT THAT WAS A CONTRACT THAT WAS MANAGED THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, NOT THROUGH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
UM, I SPOKE AT MONDAY CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO THE COMMUNITY MEMBER THAT I BELIEVE YOU'RE REFERENCING IN PERSON.
SHE'S SUBSEQUENTLY FOLLOWED UP WITH AN EMAIL TO ME AFTER THE MEETING.
UM, AND AS THE COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, STATED, THERE IS A NEW, UM, ANIMAL SERVICE PROVIDER IN PLACE.
UM, THEY HAVE BEEN SWORN IN AS THE ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER, AND THEY HAVE JURISDICTION AND AUTHORITY TO INVESTIGATE THOSE, UM, UH, TYPE OF VIOLATIONS AND TAKE LAW ENFORCEMENT ACTION UNDER THE PENAL CODE FOR ANIMAL DOG BITE CASES INDEPENDENT OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO THEY HAVE AUTHORITY UNDER CALIFORNIA STATE LAW TO INVESTIGATE THOSE MATTERS.
UM, THERE ARE ANIMAL CRUELTY CASES THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT MAY STILL INVESTIGATE, OR THERE ARE MATTERS THAT ARE INVOLVING OTHER SUSPECTS THAT MAY BE ARMED THAT ARE NOT APPROPRIATE FOR AN ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER WHO'S UNARMED TO INVESTIGATE WHERE WE WOULD CO RESPOND.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS MAY BE A MATTER THAT WOULD BE, UM, SOMETHING THAT IS MORE APPROPRIATE OR I THINK THAT IS GONNA BE COMING BACK, UM, TO CITY COUNCIL TO DISCUSS, UH, CONTRACTS, UM, IN A BROADER AUDIENCE THAT WOULD NOT BE NECESSARILY APPROPRIATE FOR THIS, THIS BODY.
UM, IT MIGHT BE MORE OF A, A, A DISCUSSION THAT'LL BE COMING BACK TO THE, UM, CITY COUNCIL FOR DISCUSSION.
SO THIS THROUGH, THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? AND, AND DO YOU WANNA WEIGH IN? I I WOULD JUST AGREE WITH THE CHIEF'S DISCUSSION REGARDING THE APPROPRIATE BODY BEING THE CITY COUNCIL.
I REVIEW PMC SECTION 2.5 0.040 REGARDING THE P TAX DUTIES, WHICH IS REALLY FOCUSED ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S PRACTICES AND POLICIES.
AND SINCE ANIMAL SERVICES IS NOT MANAGED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE WOULD RECOMMEND KEEPING THAT TOWARDS THE CITY COUNCIL.
AND HERE WE WOULD FOCUS ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I, I, I'M SAYING, I KNOW IT'S THE CURRENT WAY IS THAT THE POLICE ARE NOT INVOLVED AT ALL.
I'M SAYING I THINK THAT IT'S WORTH IT FOR US, US THE FACT THAT THIS IS A PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND THAT THE POLICE HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS, THAT MAYBE THE POLICE MIGHT ONLY ONLY WANNA MAKE, BE INVOLVED AS A REGISTRY, AS A KEEPER OF A REGISTRY FOR THE REASONS I STATED.
BUT IF PEOPLE THINK IT'S, IT'S NOT RELEVANT TO THIS COMMITTEE, I'LL MOVE ON AND NO PROBLEM.
I, I, I THINK IT'S A VALID POINT, BUT I THINK RIGHT NOW WITH THE WAY THE CONVERSATION'S CURRENTLY ACTIVE AND GOING ON AT THE CITY COUNCIL LEVEL, I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO TAKE UP THERE AND, AND COUNCILWOMAN, UM, NOW AS A LIAISON FROM THIS BODY CAN, YOU KNOW, CARRY THAT MESSAGE AT, AT, TO THE COUNCIL.
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UM, AN APPROPRIATE, UM, MESSAGE.I THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, COUNCILWOMAN MAYBE, AND I CAN DO THAT AS THE LIAISON TO THE COUNCIL, BUT THE, UM, CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, UM, GOING FORWARD, WE WILL NOW HAVE, LIKE I SAID, WEEKLY REPORTS ON ALL ANIMAL DOG RELATED INCIDENTS.
WE ARE NOW GETTING THE INFORMATION IMMEDIATELY.
WE'RE, WE'RE NOT RELYING ON THEM TO GIVE IT TO US.
THEY'RE, WE ARE ASKING, IT'S IN THE CONTRACT AND THE NEW PROTOCOL WILL BE EVERY WEEK WE GET THE INFORMATION.
SO NOTHING CAN SLIP BETWEEN THE TRACKS.
NO DOG BITES CAN GO AS LONG AS THIS LAST ONE DID.
AND IT'S VERY UNFORTUNATE, BUT, UM, NEW PROTOCOL HAS BEEN PUT IN PLACE AND IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT THAT HAPPENED TO HER.
WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO ADJOURN THE MEETING AT SEVEN 30, 7:00 PM SECOND, WE ARE ADJOURNED.