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WELCOME TO THE REGULAR

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MEETING OF THE PETALUMA CLIMATE ACTION

[CALL TO ORDER]

COMMISSION FOR THURSDAY, MAY 14TH, 2026.

UM, KEN, WE TAKE ROLL.

ASHLEY PRESENT.

L KEMP PRESENT, GUARDIAN PRESENT.

O'DONNELL PRESENT.

PEREZ IS ABSENT.

PETERS HERE.

KRISHNA HERE.

THORS IS ABSENT.

AND LASTLY, WE HAVE SHRIVES, WHO I WAS INFORMED WILL BE LATE TODAY.

THANK YOU.

UM, WE HAVE NO OUTSIDE PRESENTATIONS TODAY.

UM, SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.

DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON ITEMS OF PUBLIC INTEREST THAT ARE WITHIN THE COMMISSION'S SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION AND ARE NOT LISTED ON THE CURRENT AGENDA.

PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED UP TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON.

DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF PERSONS WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.

TIME WILL BE ALLOCATED IN EQUAL SHARES TOTALING NO MORE THAN 20 MINUTES.

SUBJECT, SUBJECT TO THE COUNCIL'S DISCRETION.

UM, IF THERE ARE ANY SPEAKER CARDS, NO CHAIR, ACTUALLY, I'D JUST LIKE TO LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT THERE WAS INTENDED TO BE A PRESENTATION TODAY, BUT OUR PRESENTER WAS UNABLE TO MAKE IT, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE POSTPONING THAT.

AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL DO THAT IN JULY INSTEAD.

THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, DID WE RECEIVE ANY COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING? WE DID NOT.

NO PRIOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

OKAY.

THEN WE MOVE

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

ON TO APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR THE REGULAR MEETING OF MARCH 12TH, 2026.

ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE MINUTES FROM THE COMMISSION? OKAY, THEN WE CAN APPROVE THE MINUTES WITHOUT CHANGES AND SCREAMING THROUGH

[PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION]

TO PUBLIC HEARINGS IN MATTERS OF CONSIDERATION, UM, WHERE WE WILL HAVE A VERBAL REPORT FROM THE CLIMATE COMMA, UH, ACTION COMMISSION AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEES AND REPORTS AND PRESENTATIONS FROM THE CLIMATE ACTION WORKING GROUPS.

UM, THE STAFF PRESENT, UH, WE CAN JUST BRIEFLY SET THE TABLE FOR THIS.

UM, THERE'S BEEN, UH, AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEES FORMED OF THIS GROUP.

UM, SO THIS WOULD BE A TIME FOR THEM TO REPORT THE PROGRESS SINCE THE LAST MEETING.

AND THEN ALSO, UM, KIND OF SIMILAR TO HOW WE USED TO DO IT WITH, UM, COOL PETALUMA, WHERE THEY WOULD COME AND PRESENT ON THINGS THAT HAPPENED.

WE'RE OPENING, UM, THIS ITEM UP TO ALSO INCLUDE REPORTS FROM THE CLIMATE ACTION WORKING GROUPS TO DO PRESENTATIONS ON, UM, ISSUES OF NOTE THAT HAVE HAPPENED, UM, AND THINGS THEY WANT TO LET THE COMMUNITY AND THE COMMISSION KNOW ABOUT COMING FORWARD IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

SO THAT KIND OF, MAYBE WE SHOULD START OUT WITH SUBCOMMITTEES AND THEN THEN PROCEED TO, UM, THE WORKING GROUPS.

THAT SOUNDS GREAT.

UM, I THINK WE ONLY HAVE ONE, IS THAT RIGHT? YEP.

BECAUSE ANN IS GONE.

THE OTHER ONE IS A WORKING GROUP.

YES.

OKAY.

OUR WORKING GROUP IS CALLED THE EV AD HOC.

UH, WE DID MEET AND UH, WE HAD THE PLEASURE OF HAVING THE MAYOR THERE BY CHANCE, UH, AS WELL.

SO WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE A BRIEF DISCUSSION WITH HIM, WHICH WAS SORT OF A, A HAPPY COINCIDENCE.

UM, YOU KNOW, IN PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS THERE'S BEEN A LIST OF MAYBE SIX POINTS THAT WE'VE SORT OF, UM, REVIEWED, AND I THINK THERE'S MORE WORK TO BE DONE THERE.

UH, BUT IN THE INTEREST OF FOCUSING AND NARROWING OUR SCOPE, WE EACH PICKED ONE KIND OF TOP ITEM.

UH, SO ALL KIND OF PREVIEW, UH, THOSE WITH THE NOTION THAT THESE BE, UM, IDEALLY AGENDIZED AT THE NEXT MEETING SO THAT THEY COULD BE DISCUSSED AND, UH, POTENTIALLY RECOMMENDED UP TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

SO THAT'S SORT OF THE IDEA.

UH, THE FIRST ONE, THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, IT'S THE NOTION OF AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE SALES TAX, UH, HOLIDAY OR REBATE RATHER.

UH, AND THIS IS THE NOTION THAT THE CITY, UH, YOU KNOW, WHILE IT HAS LIMITED POWER TO INCENTIVIZE ELECTRICAL PURCHASES, IT DOES HAVE THE 1% SALES TAX.

UH, AND SO IT CAN, UM, CHOOSE THROUGH ITS BUDGETING POWER TO OFFER PROBABLY SOMETHING MORE LIKE A REFUND THAN A TAX HOLIDAY.

I GUESS I'D HAVE TO, WE'D HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW EXACTLY THE AUTO DEALERS DO IT AND WHATNOT.

UM, BUT IF THE AVERAGE PRICE OF AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE IS 50 TO $60,000,

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AT LEAST ACCORDING TO THE INTERNET, UH, THAT PUTS A PER CAR, UH, INCENTIVE AROUND 500 TO $600.

UH, AND SO IN, UM, THINKING THROUGH THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS, ONE IS TO SORT OF CAP IT, UM, LIKE THE FIRST 50 VEHICLES OR THE FIRST A HUNDRED VEHICLES.

AND SO THAT THE BUDGET, UH, CAN BE MANAGEABLE, UH, AND REVIEWING AND HAVING SOME FOLLOW UP CONVERSATIONS ON THE BUDGET AND RECOGNIZING THAT WE ARE IN A TIGHT BUDGET SITUATION.

IT COULD BE THAT $50,000 IS EVEN, UM, YOU KNOW, TOO LARGE OF A REQUEST.

AND SO, UH, ANOTHER OPTION WOULD BE TO DO LIKE A SINGLE DAY OR A WEEKEND, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S SORT OF VERY COMMON AMONG AUTO DEALERS ALREADY.

IT'S LIKE MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND OR WHATEVER.

NO SALES TAX.

AND SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY CARS THEY SELL OVER THOSE WEEKENDS, BUT LIKE THAT'S ANOTHER WAY TO, UM, SORT OF LIMIT THE BUDGET IMPACT IS TO SORT OF, UH, DO IT.

AND THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE GOAL IS NOT SO MUCH LIKE THE $500 1% IS LIKE GOING TO MOTIVATE PEOPLE.

I MEAN, IT CERTAINLY WILL, BUT LIKE, UM, THE CITY CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH TO COMMUNICATE THAT THESE THINGS ARE NOW THE MOST AFFORDABLE FORM OF TRANSPORTATION.

YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY WITH THE HIGH ELEVATED GAS PRICES AND EVEN BEFORE, YOU KNOW, THIS SITUATION.

BUT LIKE USED EVS BEING BY FAR THE CHEAPEST AND THEN NEW EVS BEING, UM, YOU KNOW, SIMILARLY AFFORDABLE.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THE IDEA AROUND THE SALES TAX, UM, CAMPAIGN IS TO REALLY GET THE WORD OUT AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S, THAT'S PROBABLY WHY THEY ELIMINATE TO ONE WEEKEND, I THINK.

UM, AND, UM, YEAH, I GUESS IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR FEEDBACK ON THAT ONE BEFORE I MOVE ON TO THE OTHER TWO? ANYBODY? COME ON.

COME ON.

I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.

OKAY.

.

LOVE IT.

OKAY.

YEAH.

MM-HMM .

SO IT'S THE CITY'S REVENUE THAT WOULD BE LIKE THE CITY WOULD BE GRANTING PERMISSION FOR THIS.

AND, AND THEN WHO IS, WHO DECIDES THAT? WELL, I MEAN THAT, YOU KNOW, THE IDEA IS WE WOULD HAVE A MORE FORMAL PROPOSAL AND DISCUSSION, UH, POSSIBLY AT THE NEXT MEETING, UH, ADVANCE THAT TO OUR, OUR COUNCIL LIAISON.

UH, AND THEN HE WOULD INTRODUCE IT TO THE CITY COUNCIL IN SOME WAY.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT, THE BUDGET IS GONNA BE, UH, CONCLUDED BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING.

SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, MORE OF LIKE AN ATTACK ON TO THE BUDGET OR, YOU KNOW, COULD BE A MID-YEAR BUDGET REVIEW.

AND I MEAN, IT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT LIKE, IS PLANNED FOR DECEMBER, YOU KNOW, AND WE START TALKING ABOUT IT NOW.

AND I MEAN, MAYBE THAT'S LIKE A BAD WAY TO DO MARKETING, RIGHT? UH, 'CAUSE NOBODY'S GONNA BUY A CAR UNTIL DECEMBER THEN.

BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, I GUESS, UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE MORE SOME OF THE FEEDBACK IN TERMS OF LIKE, WHAT'S BETTER THE FIRST A HUNDRED CARS OR A PARTICULAR WEEKEND.

UM, YOU KNOW, THERE IS SOME LIKE VERY CLEAR STRATEGIES THERE AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WHICH WOULD HAVE A MEANINGFUL IMPACT ON THE OUTCOME.

BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE ADVANCE IT AND GET THE, UM, IDEA VERY REFINED, THEN IT'S UP TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO EITHER AGREE OR, YOU KNOW, DO WHAT WITH THAT.

SO, UM, JUST TO ADD A LITTLE BIT, YEAH, SO IT'D BE FLEXIBLE IN THE MONEY AMOUNT DEPENDING ON WHAT WE COULD RAISE FOR THAT, UH, PURPOSE.

MAYBE THERE'S A GRANT MONEY OUT THERE FOR THAT.

UM, IF, AND WE COULD CHANGE THE TIME.

NOW, WHETHER OR NOT IT HAS TO COME ALL THE WAY TO CITY COUNCIL OR NOT, IF THE MONEY'S, UH, IS A CERTAIN LIMITED TO IT, IS THERE MONEY EITHER WITHIN THE CURRENT BUDGET FOR, UH, CLIMATE CHANGE ACTIONS OR, UM, IT STAFF HAS THE ABILITY TO ACTUALLY JUST RUN WITH THIS RATHER THAN DOES IT HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY UP TO COUNCIL SINCE IT'S A PRETTY LIMITED PROGRAM.

SO THAT'D BE FOR, FOR STAFF.

DO, DO WE HAVE TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL TO GET AN AGREEMENT ON THIS OR, UH, TO DO SOMETHING? OR CAN WE, UH, MANAGE THAT THROUGH STAFF? I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THAT WOULD NEED TO BE THROUGH CITY COUNCIL.

THAT SEEMS LIKE ANY KIND OF REBATE OF SALES TAX INFORMATION OF SALES TAX COLLECTED MONEY WOULD OKAY.

PROBABLY BE A COUNCIL.

OKAY, GOOD.

SO, SO THE ACTUAL MONEY, UM, 'CAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT OF WHAT WE'RE ABOUT TRYING TO GET TO PROMOT EV, IT'S MORE, IT'S NOT SO MUCH THE COST OF MONEY IS A LITTLE BIT OF CONCERN MAYBE, BUT IT REALLY IS A PR PROGRAM TO GET MARKETING.

SO HERE'S THE NEW IDEA.

LET GUYS GET GOING.

LET'S BUY IF NOW'S THE TIME TO, TO SWITCH GEARS AND, AND, AND CHANGE AND, AND BUY YOUR EV.

SO GETTING THAT PART OF THE ADVERTISING WORK, WORKING WITH THE CAR DEALERSHIPS IN TOWN, AND THERE'S OTHER REBATES RIGHT

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NOW, AND ALSO THERE'S USED CAR REBATES.

RIGHT NOW THEY'RE SELLING HIGHEND, UH, I FIVES, WHICH HAVE BEEN ON THE, UH, BEEN USED BY THE RENTAL AGENCIES FOR THREE YEARS AND THERE'S A $4,000 REBATE FROM PG E RIGHT NOW ON THEM.

UM, SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE GOING THAT FAR TO, TO TRY TO MOVE, UM, THESE USED EV SALES.

SO WHETHER IT BE NEW EV OR USED EV SALES, OR WE COULD DO IT ONE WAY OR BOTH WAYS.

SAY, HEY, BUY YOUR WE'LL TACK ON BESIDES YOUR FIVE, $400 FOR YOUR USED EV HEY, UM, WHICH IS NOW $20,000, THAT'S HALF THE PRICE OF AN TAX FOR THE NEW EV.

LET'S, WE COULD ATTACK IT.

HEY, PG E WANTS THIS PROGRAM, WE'LL TACK ON ANOTHER, UH, COUPLE HUNDRED DOLLARS HERE, UH, NO SALES TAX.

UH, AND THERE'S NOT A REAL, BY MOVING THE MARKET, THINGS WILL HAPPEN.

THAT WOULD NOT HAPPEN BEFORE.

SO IT'S NOT A REAL LOSS.

UH, I WANTED JUST KIND OF PIGGYBACK ON, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER SRI'S IDEA AROUND LIKE, DOES THIS REALLY NEED TO GO TO COUNCIL? I THINK THE SALES TAX PART OF IT IS KIND OF GIMMICKY, RIGHT? IT'S LIKE IF THE MONEY'S NOT ACTUALLY COMING FROM THE SALES TAX REVENUE, BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE A, HEY, WE'LL OFFSET THE SALES TAX, BUT THE MONEY'S COMING FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE.

DOES THAT CHANGE THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, AS FAR AS MAKING THIS A LITTLE EASIER? I, I MEAN, IT, IT WOULD BE A DISBURSEMENT FROM THE GENERAL FUND.

SO IF THAT WASN'T PLANNED ON BEING A, AN EXPENDITURE, IF THAT WASN'T IN THE BUDGET, THEN THAT PROBABLY WOULD NEED TO GO TO COUNCIL AS A ADJUSTMENT.

OR ARE THERE ANY PROGRAMS THAT WERE CURRENTLY ALREADY APPROVED BY THE CITY THAT HAVE ANY FLEXIBILITY ON HOW THEY SPEND THEIR MONEY? IS THAT ALSO A THING? ? JUST TRYING TO THINK.

I THINK THAT'S ALL PART OF THE BUDGET.

BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF, IF, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL, UH, COMMISSIONER PETERS MENTIONED THAT IT'S A PRETTY LEAN YEAR FOR THE BUDGET THIS YEAR, AND THAT'S ABSOLUTELY TRUE.

IT'S, THERE'S BEEN A NUMBER OF CUTS TO PROGRAMS THAT WERE GOTCHA.

PRETTY VITAL, UM, THAT ARE UNFORTUNATELY HAPPENING THIS YEAR.

MM-HMM .

UNDERSTOOD.

YEAH.

AND, YOU KNOW, AND I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT.

DID I HEAR YOU CORRECTLY, JOHN, WHEN YOU SAID THERE MIGHT BE GRANT FUNDING AVAILABLE TO COVER SOME OF THAT COST? UM, THERE, THERE IS POSSIBILITIES OF THAT.

AND WE COULD EITHER, UH, TALK TO SONOMA CLEAN POWER AND SEE IF THEY'RE WILLING TO ALSO KICK IN BESIDES PG E'S KICKING IN 4,000.

MAYBE WE CAN TALK TO SONOMA CLEAN POWER TO KICK IN AN EXTRA, UH, 400, UH, $200, $400 A CAR.

'CAUSE THAT'S ALL IT WOULD BE FOR A USED EV.

SO IF SONOMA CLEAN POWER ALSO CONTRIBUTED JUST LIKE PG E, THAT MIGHT BE A WAY TO AT LEAST GET SOMETHING GOING.

YEAH.

AND FOLLOWING UP ON THAT, BECAUSE IT IS A LEAN YEAR FOR THE CITY, AND, UM, AS YOU MENTIONED, IT'S MORE OF A, A GIMMICKY PR STUNT THAN IT TRULY IS ABOUT THE MONEY DIFFERENCE.

IS THERE THE OPPORTUNITY TO INSTEAD ONLY REDUCE, LIKE, REDUCE THE SALES TAX AMOUNT BY A PORTION THAT IS COVERED BY THESE OTHER FUNDING SOURCES RATHER THAN ELIMINATE IT ENTIRELY? YEAH.

SO THERE'S A POSSIBILITY WE JUST HAVE TO, UH, ASK AROUND AND, AND SEEK IF, IF THAT OPPORTUNITY IS OUT THERE OR NOT.

THE OTHER OPTION WOULD BE, HEY, PG E ALREADY HAS A REBATE $4,000 ON A A USED EV ALREADY.

UM, WELL, CAN WE JUST HELP PROMOTE THAT AND SAY, NOW'S THE TIME TO GO MOVE ON THAT.

UH, BECAUSE A $20,000 CAR ALL OF A SUDDEN NOW IS ONLY $16,000 FOR A TWO TO 3-YEAR-OLD CAR THAT ONLY HAS A 20, 30 MILE THOUSAND MILES ON IT.

UH, PHENOMENAL DEAL RIGHT NOW, UH, FOR VALUE FOR THE BUCK.

AND BECAUSE I'M STILL RELATIVELY NEW AND STILL LEARNING.

WHEN YOU SAY WE NEED TO GO AROUND AND SEE WHAT OTHER OPPORTUNITIES EXIST, WHO IS THE WE IN THIS SCENARIO, DOING THAT DIGGING? UM, MIGHT BE THIS COMMITTEE AND IT MIGHT, UH, SIGNING STAFF, ASKING STAFF IF THEY'VE GOT TIME, BUT I'M SURE I ALREADY KNOW THAT THE STAFF IS BOOKED SOLID WITH, WITH, UH, PROJECTS AND PROGRAMS. SO AGAIN, THIS WOULD HAVE TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL SAYING, OKAY, LET'S SHIFT GEARS AND MAKE THIS A, UH, SO THAT'S WHERE THE CITY COUNCIL COMES IN TO SHIFTING THE PRIORITIES FOR THEIR ALREADY FULL SCHEDULE.

BUT THIS COMMITTEE COULD REACH OUT AND DO THINGS ALSO JUST TO, UH, MAYBE ASK, DO THE ASK.

YEAH, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE, THE EV AD HOC IS PROBABLY THE, THE ANSWER.

YEAH.

LAST RESORT, YES, WE WOULD SPEND OUR TIME DOING IT, BUT YEAH, IF, IF STAFF HAS TIME, GREAT, BUT IF NOT, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO KICK IN AND, AND GET IT, DO THE, DO THE ACTUAL WORK.

GREAT.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER PETERS, OH, IF I COULD, IF I COULD JUST INTERJECT A LITTLE BIT ON THAT.

UM, I THINK IT IS KIND OF AN INTERESTING THING.

I'M SURE THERE'S LOTS OF STUDIES OUT THERE THAT HAVE LOOKED AT WHAT LEVEL OF REBATE INDUCES SOMEBODY TO PRODUCE A CERTAIN ACTIVITY OUT THERE.

SO THIS MAY NOT BE LIKE GROUNDBREAKING, UH, INFORMATION, BUT IT WOULD ALLOW US TO GET MORE INFORMATION IF THERE WERE CONDITIONS ON IT.

LIKE, HOW FAR DO YOU THINK YOU'RE GONNA DRIVE THIS ON AVERAGE? LIKE, SO THEN YOU COULD ACTUALLY DO SOME CALCULATIONS OF, UM, AND IF IT WERE JUST A CERTAIN DAY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU'RE

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PRETTY MUCH MORE ASSURED THAT THAT'S, THAT THEY DID THAT BECAUSE OF THAT REASON.

INSTEAD OF IT JUST BEING LIKE AN, AN ADD-ON AND THEY'RE ALREADY PLAYING IT, AND THIS IS JUST NOT BEHAVIOR CHANGING, UM, MONEY ANYHOW.

BUT YOU COULD DO SOME CALCULATIONS OF THAT, WHICH I THINK IS SOMETHING THAT IS HARD TO QUANTIFY AT TIMES.

LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY LIKE THE, THE $7,500 REBATE, LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE FELT LIKE, WELL, MAYBE THE MANUFACTURERS ARE JUST BUMPING UP THEIR MSRP BY $7,500, AND, AND THEN WHEN THAT WENT AWAY, THEY HAD THE DROP PRICES TO KEEP THE DEMAND.

SO THIS ONE, IT MAY BE SMALL ENOUGH THAT IT MAY NOT NECESSARILY, IT MIGHT PUSH SOME PEOPLE THAT WERE OTHERWISE ON THE FENCE TO, TO CHANGE THEIR BEHAVIOR, BUT IT, IT, IT WOULDN'T BE A WIDESPREAD THING WHERE YOU'D SEE THE DEALERS ALL RAISING UP THEIR MSRP AND JUST GETTING SOME FREE SALES OFF THAT.

I, IT, YEAH, IT COULD, BUT PROBABLY A MORE EFFORT IF IT WAS JUST A SINGLE DAY OR A SINGLE WEEKEND.

SO IT'S AN INTERESTING IDEA, AND COUNCIL MAY BE INTERESTED IN, YEAH, DO A SMALL, SMALL PILOT PROJECT, BUT WE ALREADY OFFER REBATES ON WASHER, UH, DRYERS LIKE ELECTRICAL DRYERS, UM, AND TOILETS AND, UH, AND, UH, CONVERSION OF, OF THIS AND THAT.

UM, HEAT PUMPS AND THE LIKE, UH, THE BAY AREA IS WORKING ON THAT.

SO BAYREN MAY BE ABLE TO, UH, ASSIST WITH THAT.

THERE'S ANOTHER SOURCE FOR POSSIBLE FUNDING.

IF BAY RENT WANTS TO HELP OUT WITH SOME OF THESE, THEY MIGHT BE IN DOING THIS REGIONALLY WIDE AS AN IDEA, MIGHT TAKE A LITTLE WHILE TO GET THAT ROLLING.

UM, BUT IF THERE WAS OTHER, OTHER REBATE PROGRAMS THAT ARE NOT BEING, THE MONEY'S NOT ALL BEING USED THAT'S BEEN DESIGNATED FOR OUR CURRENT REBATE PROGRAMS, THE TOILETS, THE DRYERS, UM, AND OTHER, UM, OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE OFFERING REBATES ON.

IF THERE'S MONEY IN THOSE POCKETS, THEN THIS COULD BE, OKAY, LET'S, LET'S GO AHEAD AND USE THAT POCKET MONEY OVER HERE FOR, FOR, UH, EVS, WHICH ARE JUST AS IMPORTANT, OR EVEN, BECAUSE THAT'S NUMBER ONE IN CARBON REDUCTION IS CARS.

SO WE REALLY NEED TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING TO ACTUALLY PROMOTE REDUCTION OF GAS GUZZLERS HERE IN TOWN SO THAT, UH, WE REALLY HAVE TO KIND OF PUSH THIS FORWARD AS THAT, AS ONE OF OUR, AS THAT'S OUR NUMBER ONE THING, GOAL OF A NEED THAN WE REALLY NEED TO PUSH ON IT.

'CAUSE IT'S MORE IMPORTANT THAN, THAN THAN, UH, YOUR CLOTHES DRYER EVEN.

SO DOES, DOES THE CITY HAVE ACTIVE REBATE CAMPAIGNS AROUND DRYERS? AND I WAS JUST GONNA, NO.

OKAY.

BUT THE WATER ONES ARE SPECIFIC TO OUR ENTERPRISE FUNDS, SO THOSE CAN'T GET MOVED.

UHHUH , UM, SO THAT'S WHERE LIKE, THERE'S TOILET REBATES, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO WE CAN'T USE THOSE DOLLARS FOR THAT.

THAT IS WATER SAVINGS.

THAT HAS TO BE USED FROM THE WATER BILL, RIGHT? MM-HMM .

GENERATION I THINK, BUT BAY RENT BAY DOES.

AND, UH, MAYBE EVEN THE COUNTY HAS OFFERED OTHER PROGRAMS FOR, UM, CONVERTING YOUR, YOUR DRYERS AND OTHER THINGS THAT ARE, UH, ELECTRICAL BASE BAY RENT DOES OFFER SOME REBATES.

YEAH.

SO THAT WOULD BE, UH, THE POSSIBLE SOURCE FOR, FOR SOME FUNDING FOR THIS.

I MEAN, AND THE DEALER, YOU KNOW, A DEALER MATCH, I MEAN, THEY ALREADY DO SALES TAX HOLIDAYS JUST OUTTA THEIR OWN FUNDS, YOU KNOW.

SO, UM, AND THE, I GUESS THE, THE MEASURE U LINE ITEM FOR EVS, DID THAT STOP GETTING INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET AND THAT'S EXHAUSTED? I AM, I CAN'T REMEMBER SPECIFICALLY THAT ONE, BUT GIVEN EVERYTHING ELSE THAT GOT CUT, I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF THAT ALSO WAS NOT UHHUH A THING GOING FORWARD.

YEAH.

AND THERE, THERE WAS NO LIKE, UM, MONEY SET ASIDE FOR CHARGERS.

THAT HASN'T BEEN OKAY.

UM, ANYMORE.

MORE, MORE, UH, MORE WOOD TO CHOP ON THAT ONE.

THE NEXT ONE, UM, TOPIC TWO OF THREE IS, UM, SUPPORT FOR A CITY EV HUB, I GUESS, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER SRI'S, THIS ONE IS YOURS.

I DON'T KNOW IF EV HUB IS THE RIGHT TERMINOLOGY WE WANT TO GO WITH.

UM, BUT THE MOST BASIC CONCEPT, AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, MORE IN THE CONTEXT OF, UM, THE FAIRGROUNDS AND DOING LIKE A CHARGING DEPOT AT THE FAIRGROUNDS, UH, NOW THAT THE FAIRGROUNDS IS ENTERING LIKE A MASTER PLANNING PROCESS, CERTAINLY ADVOCATING TO INCORPORATE THAT INTO THAT PROCESS IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, WE SHOULD DO AND CONTINUE ADVOCATING FOR.

UM, BUT BEYOND THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S, I DON'T KNOW, A MULTI-YEAR EFFORT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE OTHER PARKING LOTS IN TOWN THAT COULD HOST THESE HUBS? AND SO CERTAINLY THE TWO SMART STATIONS ARE IDEAL CANDIDATES.

UM, I KNOW THERE'S THE PENMAN NORTH STATION THAT HAS THE CONDUIT THERE.

UH, I DID SPEAK WITH BRAND

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ARTHUR AT SONOMA CLEAN POWER, WHO HE HELPS RUN THEIR EV CHARGER PROGRAM, AND HE WAS AWARE OF THAT, AND IT SEEMED LIKE THERE WAS PLANS THERE AND MORE LIKE THEY NEEDED, THERE WAS LIKE A PERMIT KIND OF THING.

BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I NEVER WON.

UH, I GUESS TO TRUST AND VERIFY WITH SMART, UH, IS SORT OF THE GOOD APPROACH THERE.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THE CONVERSATION IS THEN, UM, WITH THE SMART LIA LIAISON, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER CATER THOMPSON TO FOLLOW UP WITH HER, GET HER TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON WITH SMART AT THAT LOT, IF THEY ARE PUTTING IN EV CHARGES WITH SONOMA CLEAN POWER OR IF WE COULD NUDGE THEM TO DO THAT.

UM, AND THEN THE, THE DOWNTOWN LOT, WHICH HAS A SINGLE BLINK CHARGER AND, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY COULD, UM, HOST A VARIETY OF, UH, ADDITIONAL CHARGERS.

UH, AND THEN TO SORT OF COMPLEMENT, UH, THE NOTION OF A DEPOT, UM, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER SHRIVES, UH, NOTED THAT NOW THERE ARE DRIVERLESS CARS APPROVED TO DRIVE AROUND IN SONOMA COUNTY WAY WAYMO, AND I DON'T KNOW WHO ELSE.

UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE IF THEY'RE PLANNING ON OPERATING DEPOTS HERE OR NOT, OR JUST COMING UP FROM THE CITY AND DROPPING PEOPLE OFF OR WHATNOT.

BUT, UM, THAT IS AN, A SORT OF AN EXTENSION OF THE IDEA IS TO ENGAGE WITH THOSE GROUPS.

AND, YOU KNOW, I, I, UH, SEE IF THERE'S A PARTNERSHIP TO WHERE THEY COULD USE THE CHARGING DEPOTS AND, YOU KNOW, WE COULD COLLABORATE ON, UH, DRIVERLESS CAR PILOT, WHICH, UM, SEEMS LIKE EXCITING, UH, YOU KNOW, NEW TERRITORY FOR THE CITY, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN GOING ON ELSEWHERE FOR, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE YEARS NOW.

UM, ANYTHING YOU WANNA EXPAND ON SOME OF THOSE POINTS? UM, YEAH, UH, JUST TO REITERATE A LITTLE BIT, BUT THE OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE, BECAUSE WE HAVE, UM, UH, THE TWO SMART STATIONS PRETTY MUCH PLANNED OUT TO DO CHARGE STATIONS.

WE ALSO HAVE AT TARGET A WHOLE SERIES OF TESLA CHARGE STATIONS AVAILABLE.

AND THERE'S MAYBE SOME OTHER LOCATIONS THAT WE WANNA, UH, WORK WITH THE CHARGE STATION FOLKS, UM, UM, BLANK AND OTHERS CHARGEPOINT TO, UH, SET THAT UP.

BUT WORKING COOPERATIVELY WITH ONE OF THE RIDESHARES, THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER ONE, UH, IT'S CALLED ZIPCAR.

SO ZIPCAR WANTS TO USE, UH, SMALLER EVS, UM, AND THEN BE ABLE TO, UH, IT WOULD BE A RIDE SHARE PROGRAMS THAT WE SET UP.

SO WE'D HAVE, UH, UH, START WITH ONE HUB.

THE NORTH STATION IS, IS THE MOST READY, UM, BASICALLY IT'S SHOVEL READY RIGHT NOW, JUST 'CAUSE IT'S ALREADY, THE BOXES ARE IN THE GROUND WAITING FOR, UH, THE CHARGE STATIONS AND, AND CARS TO PARK THERE.

SO THAT'D BE THE EASIEST AND FASTEST PLACE TO PARK.

BUT THAT COULD START OFF WITH EITHER A ZIP CAR OR, UM, GOING TO AN, EVEN AN AUTONOMOUS.

AND I'M THINKING AUTONOMOUS WOULD WORK EVEN BETTER IF, IF WE COULD GET IT WORKING, BECAUSE THAT MEANS SOMEONE GETS OFF THE TRAIN, GETS, UH, GOES TO THE CAR, UH, YOU SIGN UP ON, ON YOUR APP, UH, SI TIED INTO YOUR SMART APP ON YOUR, FOR YOUR TRAIN RIDE, AND THEN YOU GET IN THE CAR, YOU DRIVE TO WHERE YOU NEED TO GO, WHERE IT DRIVES YOU AUTONOMOUSLY.

AND THEN IT DOESN'T HAVE TO SIT THERE AND WAIT, IT GOES BACK TO THE TRAIN STATION AND TAKES ANOTHER PASSENGER TO THE NEXT ONE.

AND THEN WHEN YOU NEED TO COME BACK TO THE TRAIN STATION, IT'LL COME PICK YOU UP AND THEN BRING YOU BACK.

UM, AND ABOUT 10 OF THOSE COULD ACTUALLY RUN PRETTY EFFICIENTLY.

GETTING LOTS, A HUNDRED PEOPLE MOVED EVERY SINGLE DAY FROM TRAIN STATIONS AS THE LAST MILE.

IN MY MIND, THAT IS THE MOST EFFICIENT, LIKABLE, USER FRIENDLY SYSTEM FOR THE LAST MILE FOR MOST, UH, TRAIN, UNLESS THEY'RE A BIKE RIDER THEMSELVES AND HAVE THEIR BIKE ON THE TRAIN GOING UP THERE AND BACK, UM, ESPECIALLY IN FOUL WEATHER, HAVING A VEHICLE TO DO THAT.

SO, UM, THAT POSSIBILITY.

AND THEN SINCE THE NORTH STATION AND THE WHOLE COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE GONNA BE DEVELOPING IS GOING TO BE TRANSIT ORIENTED, REDUCED PARKING SPACES, SO GETTING THIS CONCEPT IN PLACE NOW VERSUS LATER AND GETTING A PILOT GOING, I THINK IS PRETTY CRITICAL FOR GETTING A MASS MOVEMENT GOING FOR, FOR, YES, THIS IS THE DIRECTION WE'RE GOING IN.

SO I THINK NOW IS THE TIME TO ACTUALLY GET A PILOT SOMEWHERE.

SMART STATION IS THE, IS PROBABLY THE NORTH ONE IS PROBABLY THE BEST, UM, START.

AND THEN, UM, AND THEN THERE'S A WHOLE GLOBAL MARKET WITH 25 MANUFACTURERS PRODUCING MICROCAR THAT ARE EVS FROM INDIA AND CHINA, UH, ITALY, UM, SWITZERLAND, ISRAEL ARE ALL PRODUCING NOW THESE MICROCAR EVS THAT, UH, THAT ACTUALLY WORK IN RIDESHARE PROGRAMS. SO, UH, IT'S BEEN TESTED.

UH, THE NETHERLANDS HAS GOT IT GOING, CHINA'S GOT IT GOING, JAPAN'S GOT IT GOING, ALL THESE OTHER COUNTRIES HAVE GOT THIS GOING.

WE DON'T HERE IN THE US SO IT MIGHT TAKE A LITTLE BIT TO GET IT UP AND RUNNING.

UM, BUT IT'S THE NEXT THING I THINK THAT WE NEED TO WORK ON TO GET, AGAIN, MORE PEOPLE.

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THE RIDE SHARE CONCEPT HAS GOTTA COME AND WE CAN BE LEADERS ON THAT.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASON DOING THAT, WHICH, UM, SO, UH, AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES RIDING AROUND TOWN, PEOPLE ARE ALREADY COMING FROM SAN FRANCISCO SAYING IT'S GREAT, WORKS REALLY WELL DOWN THERE.

THEY'VE, THEY'VE DONE IT.

SO WE'VE ALREADY HAVE PEOPLE HERE THAT HAVE ALREADY TRIED IT AND ARE HAPPY WITH IT AND LOVE THE IDEA.

SO, UH, THE MARKET'S ALREADY READY TO GO.

UM, AND THAT EXTENDS INTO, OKAY, THEN THE, WHICH IS THE NUMBER THREE ITEM WHICH WE'RE GOING TO, UH, THAT MAYBE DAN COULD TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, WHICH IS, OKAY, GET OUR MULTI-FAMILY UNITS, GET SOME EVEN ONE 10 CHARGERS AVAILABLE WITHIN OUR MULTIFAMILY UNITS.

AND THE MICROCAR ONLY NEED ONE 10.

THEY DON'T EVEN NEED TWO TWENTIES, THEY JUST NEED ONE TENS.

'CAUSE IN FIVE, SIX HOURS OVERNIGHT, THEY WILL FULLY CHARGE AND GET YOU AROUND TOWN, WHATEVER YOU NEED FOR A COUPLE DAYS BEFORE YOU HAVE TO RECHARGE AGAIN.

SO THAT WOULD BE, UH, ONE MORE STEP FOR GET TO EMPHASIZING THAT.

AND I THINK THERE'S COMING PROGRAMS THAT WE WORTH SONOMA CLEAN POWER AND PG E TO GET THAT UP AND RUNNING THAT'S ALREADY BEING DISCUSSED AT BAY RAN AND OTHER PLACES, UM, AND REGIONALLY TO MAKE THESE THINGS HAPPEN.

SO TIMING IS CRITICAL.

I THINK JUMPING IN EARLY AND BEING FIRST IN LINE AND PROPOSING IT AND GETTING FOLKS TO COME HERE, UH, FOR MARKETING AND SAY, HEY, PETALUMA'S NOW A LEADER IN THIS MOVEMENT, IT, WE WOULD SHINE.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M KIND OF PUSHING IT, UH, UH, NOW RATHER THAN, THAN WAITING IT FOR, FOR, WELL, MAYBE IT'LL HAPPEN WITH SOMEONE INSTEAD OF WAITING FOR WAYMO TO COME TO US, LET'S GO INVITE THEM.

SO THOSE ARE THE CONCEPTS I'M, I'M HAVING RIGHT NOW ABOUT OPPORTUNITY.

UM, IT'S SO TIED IN WITH WHAT WE HAVE.

THE MARKET IS READY, PEOPLE ARE READY FOR THIS.

I'VE, I'VE GIVEN PRESENTATIONS ON IT NOW AT FUTURE FEST AND TO MY COFFEE GROUP, AND EVERYBODY IS JUST SAY, HEY, LET'S, LET'S GO.

UH, WHY? WHAT ARE WE WAITING FOR? SO ANYWAY, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'M, UH, THAT'S WHAT MY THOUGHTS RIGHT NOW, WHY WE NEED TO BE MOVING NOW.

ANYWAY, I'LL TAKE MORE COMMENTS AND, AND I WOULD SAY OUR, OUR JOB AS THE CLIMATE COMMISSION SPEAKING ON MULTIFAMILY WOULD BE TO IDENTIFY THOSE OPPORTUNITIES, SO GRANTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND THEN SEEK OUT THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND SAY, HEY, THERE'S THIS GREAT PROGRAM.

HERE'S WHAT YOU NEED TO DO.

AND DO A LITTLE HANDHOLDING WITH THEM TO GET THEM TO IMPLEMENT, YOU KNOW, THESE PROGRAMS. SO IT WOULD BE LITTLE OR NO COST TO THE CITY.

IT WOULD JUST BE OUR EFFORT TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.

AND, UM, JUST TO TOUCH ON THIS, SO THE, UM, THE CCAS, YOU KNOW, UH, MO A LOT OF THE CCAS UP AND DOWN THE STATE, UH, I WAS JUST AT THE CA CONFERENCE THIS WEEK, SO, UM, YOU KNOW, GOT A LOT OF, UH, RELEVANT AND TIMELY INFORMATION ON IT.

SO, UM, THEY'RE DOING DIFFERENT THINGS.

YOU KNOW, SNOW CLEAN POWER IS MAINLY WORKING ON LEVEL TWO SMART CHARGERS FOR HOME AND WORKPLACE, UM, WHICH IS A NEED, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GREAT.

UM, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY FOCUSED ON.

UH, AVA CLEAN ENERGY DOWN IN LIKE, UH, OAKLAND, EAST BAY.

UH, THEY'RE WORKING ON CHARGING DEPOTS, SO THEY HAVE LIKE FIVE, YOU KNOW, TESLA DEPOT TYPE THINGS GOING ON THAT THEY OWN AND OPERATE.

UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THAT'S IN CLEAN POWERS HANDS, AND THEY HAVE A WHOLE TEAM DEVELOPING THOSE.

SO IT'S A, YOU KNOW, LONG WAY OFF FROM THAT.

BUT YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY THE PREVIOUS NUMBER TWO ITEM OF THE DEPOTS, IT'S LIKE WE COULD PRIME, UM, THAT TYPE OF WORK SO THAT, YOU KNOW, AN OPERATOR LIKE CINEMA CLEAN POWER OR ONE OF THESE OTHER PRIMED OPERATORS COULD COME IN AND DO THAT.

UH, AND THEN DOWN ON THE PENINSULA, UH, A GROUP CALLED PENINSULA CLEAN ENERGY, UH, KIND OF SAN MATEO COUNTY, UH, THEY ARE FOCUSED EXACTLY ON THIS LAST ITEM, WHICH IS LEVEL ONE SMART CHARGING FOR MULTIFAMILY.

UH, AND SO WE TALKED ABOUT THE LEVEL ONE, AND LIKE YOU CAN GET, YOU KNOW, CHARGE, UH, UH, A LIGHT DUTY, LIGHT LOW RANGE EV, UH, WITH LEVEL ONE CHARGING OVERNIGHT.

AND SO THAT'S, I THINK, A MYTH THAT, UH, NEEDS TO BE BUSTED IS LIKE LEVEL ONE ISN'T REALLY WORKABLE.

IT'S WORKABLE IN, IN, YOU KNOW, MOST USE CASES.

UM, YOU KNOW, THEIR TWIST ON IT IS THE SMART PLUG, YOU KNOW, HAVING A SMART ONE 10 PLUG AND JUST INSTEAD OF A REGULAR, UH, DUMB ONE TUG PLUG, YOU KNOW, THEN YOU COULD DO METERING THERE, WHICH IS HELPFUL IN A MULTI-FAMILY CONTEXT.

UH, AND THEN ESPECIALLY FOR THEM, UH, THAT GETS INTO A DEMAND FLEXIBILITY THING, YOU KNOW, SO THEY CAN MAKE SURE THAT NO ONE IS CHARGING THEIR CAR FROM FOUR TO 9:00 PM BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY IS THAT EXPENSIVE FOR, UH, THE CONSUMER, THAT'S ALSO INCREDIBLY EXPENSIVE FOR, UM, THE ELECTRICITY PROVIDER.

THEY NEED TO GO AND BASICALLY BUY MORE PEAKER PLANT CAPACITY TO SERVE THAT NEED.

UM, SO THAT'S WHY THEY'RE FOCUSED ON NOT ONLY THE ONE 10, BUT THE, UH, ONE 10 SMART PLUG PART OF IT.

UH, AND THEN THEY'RE TIE INTO THE MULTIFAMILY IS, YOU KNOW, THERE IS THAT NEED.

UH, AND THEY ARE, UH, WORKING ON IDENTIFYING CITY OWNED, UH, AND SORT OF AGENCY OWNED LANDS ADJACENT TO MULTIFAMILY WHERE THIS CAN BE DEPLOYED.

AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT AT THE CITY IS LIKE, WHERE DO WE HAVE A NEXUS OF MULTIFAMILY

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AND CITY OWNED LOTS WHERE WE CAN DO CHARGERS? UH, AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

SO THAT'S JUST A VALIDATION POINT THAT, UM, PROBABLY EASIER TO DO THAT THAN TO GO THROUGH THE HOOPS OF SORT OF RETROFITTING THE EXISTING MULTIFAMILY.

UM, YEAH, I KNOW WE TALKED BEFORE ABOUT, UM, MAYBE A APPROACHING THE, UH, THE OWNERS OF THE THEATER SQUARE GARAGE SINCE THEY HAVE ALL THOSE UNITS THERE AND, YOU KNOW, PARKING SPACES IN THOSE UNITS.

SO COULD WE PUT LEVEL ONE CHARGING STATIONS, LET'S SAY, YOU KNOW, IN, IN SOME OF THOSE PARKING SPACES SO PEOPLE COULD CHARGE OVERNIGHT THAT LIVE IN THAT AREA, YET DON'T, YOU KNOW, HAVE A DEDICATED GARAGE MM-HMM .

SO THAT'D BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY, AND IT'D BE A GOOD SELLING POINT FOR THEM, RIGHT? SO, UH, IF THEY WANTED TO ATTRACT A TENANT WHO WANTED TO DRIVE AN EV, BUT IT WAS, YOU KNOW, TOO INCONVENIENT TO ALWAYS BE HITTING, YOU KNOW, THE LEVEL TWO OR LEVEL THREE, UH, PUBLIC CHARGERS, THIS WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY A, A PLUS FOR SOMEONE LOOKING TO RENT.

AND THEN, UM, THE LAST KIND OF POINT ON THAT ITEM, TO YOUR POINT OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHERE CAN WE DO THESE RETROFITS WHERE YOU'RE GETTING THE MOST BANG FOR THE BUCK, AND WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, PARKING AND A LOT OF NEED, UM, IS, UM, UPDATING SORT OF THE, THE, IT'S NOT THE ZONING CODE, BUT LIKE THE PLANNING, UM, CODE.

SO RIGHT NOW, LIKE STATE LOCK, UH, TITLE 24 HAS LIKE EV READY REQUIREMENTS, WHICH IS BASICALLY PUTTING IN, UH, EMPTY CONDUIT.

UH, I REMEMBER WHEN THE, UM, HAYSTACK PROJECT WAS FIRST GOING THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST ROCK CONDUIT AND, YOU KNOW, WE, I BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, IT'S SORT OF A STALLED PROJECT AT THIS POINT, BUT LIKE A CONCESSION WAS MADE TO PUT SOME WIRE IN THERE AND PLUGS, YOU KNOW, AND THERE WAS AN ADDITIONAL COST TO THAT FOR SURE.

AND CERTAINLY THERE'S AN INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, ASPECT OF IT TOO, BUT UPDATING, UM, OUR CODE SO THAT EV READY, YOU KNOW, HAS A MORE CLEAR AND, UH, USEFUL, UM, DESIGNATION, IF THAT MAKES SENSE VERSUS JUST BARE CONDUIT.

SO THAT'S, UM, A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH TO DO THERE ON EXACTLY WHAT THE CURRENT CODE REQUIREMENT IS, AND THEN HOW, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD DO LIKE A, UM, WHAT'S THE STRETCH CODE? WHAT IS IT CALLED? REACH CODE? REACH CODE, YEAH.

SO LIKE GETTING INTO THE REACH CODE WHERE LIKE YOU'RE REACHING INTO, UH, 1, 1 10 SMART CHARGING SPECIFICALLY, YOU KNOW, AND THEN YOU CAN TAP INTO LIKE AN INCENTIVE POOL FROM SONOMA CLEAN POWER FOR THAT.

SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT'S GOING DOWN IN SAN MATEO COUNTY.

SO, YOU KNOW, A VERY EASY SORT OF, UH, LESSON TO REPLICATE.

UM, YEAH.

AND, UM, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, UH, THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE REST OF THE COMMISSIONERS TO SORT OF PROVIDE, UH, YOUR COMMENTS AND FEEDBACK SO THAT WE CAN CRAFT IT INTO, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, SOMETHING MORE FORMAL TO DISCUSS, UM, HOPEFULLY AT THE NEXT MEETING.

OKAY.

THERE'S A, A FOURTH PART, WHICH, UH, PART OF OUR COMMITTEE WE STARTED DISCUSSING DIDN'T QUITE, UH, FORMALIZE YET, BUT IF WE'RE READY TO MOVE TO A, A FOURTH TOPIC.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO THERE'S A FOURTH TOPIC I WANT, I WANTED TO BRING UP, UM, BECAUSE WE'RE DEALING WITH, UM, UM, ELECTRIFICATION AND ELECTRIC VEHICLES.

SO RIGHT NOW, UM, STATEWIDE, UH, LISTENING TO LOTS OF OTHER, UH, CITY COUNCILS AND MAYORS, UM, IN FACT ACROSS THE WHOLE US I'VE GONE TO OTHER CITIES, UM, ON ZOOM, UM, THROUGH MY ABUNDANCE NETWORK AND THE, UM, TEENAGERS ON, UH, EMOTO BIKES, WHICH IS THE SOUPED UP BIKES SEEMS TO BE A PANDEMIC ACROSS THE ENTIRE US.

LOTS OF, UM, UH, FOLKS, A LOT OF COUNCILS AND STATES ARE WORKING ON THINGS.

TURNS OUT, UH, DID SOME RESEARCH AND DUG IN, UH, USING AI TOOLS TO FIND, OKAY, WHAT'S HAPPENING AT OUR STATE LEVEL.

AND AI FOUND THAT THERE'S NINE MAYBE MORE BILLS RIGHT NOW GOING TO THE FLOORS AND COMMITTEES FOR DISCUSSION AND OF A VARIETY OF TYPES THAT ARE GONNA REALLY TIGHTEN UP THE WHOLE MARKETPLACE.

UM, WHICH INCLUDES, UH, REGISTRATION OF ALL BIKES, UH, WITH DMV, UM, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO, AND THEN ELIMINATING.

OKAY.

ANY, UH, SOME OF 'EM MIGHT BE OKAY IF YOU'RE UNDER 18, HEY, NO, NO, E-BIKE DEPENDS UPON, THERE'S DIFFERENT AGE LEVELS, DIFFERENT SPEED LIMITS, DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS, REQUIREMENTS MAYBE FOR INSURANCE AND HELMETS FOR EVERYBODY.

UM, A WHOLE VARIETY OF STUFF IS BEING DISCUSSED RIGHT NOW.

THERE'S NINE BILLS ON THE FLOOR NOW, SO, UM, AFTER RESEARCHING THEM, SOME OF THEM ARE GOOD, SOME OF THEM MAY BE.

UM, UH, SO I WENT OVER IT AND TALKED TO AARON AT, UM, A MOTOR WHEEL, AND HE'S REALLY ON TOP OF IT AND HE SAYS WHAT THE MARKETPLACE IS LIKE.

AND IT TURNS OUT THAT CLASS THREE BIKES ARE NOT SELLING, UH, BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THROTTLES AND EVERYBODY WANTS, 99% OF THE PEOPLE WANT A THROTTLE ON THEIR BIKE.

AND IF IT'S NOT ON A CLASS THREE BIKE, WHICH IS NOT BEING ALLOWED RIGHT NOW, THEN NOBODY'S BUYING A CLASS THREE BIKE

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BECAUSE THEY WANT THEIR THROTTLE.

SO THAT'S A RULE THAT MAY, WE MAY HAVE TO SAY, OKAY, WELL, UM, MAYBE WE SHOULD ALLOW THROTTLES UP TO 20 MILES AN HOUR, JUST LIKE CLASS TWO BIKES.

EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE A THROTTLE UP TO 20 MILES AN HOUR, BUT IT'S SELF GENERATED ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT FOR CLASS THREE.

SO, UM, THAT'S ONE OF THE SCARY THINGS.

'CAUSE 'CAUSE AARON'S NOT BEEN ABLE TO SELL A SINGLE CLASS THREE BIKE IN A WHILE.

IT'S, AND EVERYBODY'S SHIFTING TO A CLASS TWO INSTEAD JUST FOR THAT ONE REASON.

UM, SO THERE'S RULES AND REGULATIONS BEING DISCUSSED, UM, RIGHT NOW AND, AND OUR, UH, DAMON CONLEY IS, IS ACTUALLY LEADING ONE OR TWO OF THEM.

UM, AND I DON'T THINK THE, AND AND REGISTERING THE BIKES, UH, WITH DME, UM, MAY PUT A PINCH ON THE ENTIRE MARKETPLACE AND PUTTING THE AGE RESTRICTIONS, UM, AND SAY, NO E-BIKES UNDER AGE 16 OR 13 OR WHATEVER THE AGE LIMIT THEY END UP WITH IS ALSO MAY NOT BE GOOD FOR THE MARKET.

AND IF WE WANNA PROMOTE, UH, MOVEMENT AND MORE PEOPLE RIDING BIKES, E-BIKES ARE, UM, IN EUROPE, JUST RECENTLY I READ THERE'S 27% INCREASE IN MARKET JUST THIS LAST, SINCE THE BEGINNING OF JANUARY, THE MARKET IN EUROPE HAS INCREASED BY 27% AND MORE IN, IN CERTAIN LOCATIONS.

SO THIS IS GOING LIKE GANGBUSTERS ALL AROUND THE WORLD.

UM, IT'S NOT GONNA END.

SO WE WANNA PROMOTE ELECTRIC BIKES, KEEP, GET PEOPLE ON 'EM AS FAST AS SOON AS WE CAN, UM, AND NOT HAVE PROPER SAFE REGULATIONS AND HAVE OUR POLICE LIKE THE REGULATIONS THAT THEY, THAT WE PUT IN PLACE.

'CAUSE THEY HAVE TO ENFORCE 'EM.

AND I JUST TALKED TO, UH, UH, CHIEF MILLER ABOUT, AND AND HIS OPINION, UH, ANYTHING WITH, WITH A THROTTLE SHOULD BE, UH, DMV REGISTERED WITH HELMETS, PERIOD.

UH, 'CAUSE AS THE THROTTLE HE SAYS, THE THI THINKS IS, IS, UM, UH, ONE OF THE ISSUES.

SO, UM, DO WE WANT TO HAVE, UM, TO BRING THOSE NINE LAWS AND HAVE THEM DISCUSSED WHERE WE FEEL AS A GROUP, MAYBE HAVE OUR TRANSIT FOLKS TALK ABOUT IT, OUR BIKE AND PED PEOPLE TALK ABOUT IT, EVENTUALLY GET IT TO CITY COUNCIL AND SAY, OKAY, AS A CITY WE WOULD FAVOR THIS TO HELP THE MARKETPLACE MOVE FORWARD TO HELP THE BICYCLE COMMUNITY, UH, INCREASE THIS IS WHAT OUR GOAL IS.

UM, SO DO WE WANT TO GIVE INPUT INTO THE STATE LEGISLATURE FROM THE CITY AND SAYING, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT AND NEED TO MAKE THIS ALL WORK FOR US, AND THEN KIND OF HELP PUSH THE, THE, THE BEST LEGISLATION THAT'S GOING ON NOW, OTHERWISE WE'RE GONNA BE STUCK AND THEN WITH WHATEVER STATE DOES, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE TO ADD IN WHATEVER ELSE WE WANNA DO ON TOP OF IT.

SO I'M, I'M SCARED IT MAY, UM, DESTROY, AS AARON SAID, IT MAY DESTROY SOME OF THE MARKETPLACE, UM, OF E-BIKES.

SO I JUST THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE A TOPIC THAT, UH, IF, IF WE'D LIKE TO WORK ON AND BRING FORWARD AND MAYBE HAVE, UM, UH, THE VARIOUS COMMITTEES, UH, SAID, THE TRANSIT AND, AND BIKE AND PET ALSO WORK ON THIS, IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE THAT KIND OF A RECOMMENDATION SO THAT EVENTUALLY IT GOES THROUGH THE POLICE, UM, UH, ALSO GET TO LOOK AT IT AS FAR AS WHAT THEY WANT AND HAVE A COMMUNITY DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS WHOLE THING.

'CAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S A HOT TOPIC.

IT'S COMING TO COUNCIL EVERY SINGLE DAY, EVERY SINGLE MEETING THIS TOPIC IS COMING TO COUNCIL SAYING, WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT IT? I'M, I'M GETTING HIT UP A LOT ON THIS ONE TOPIC ALL THE TIME WHEN I'M OUT THERE.

WHAT IF WE, WHAT IF WE ORGANIZED A, UH, A JOINT PANEL DISCUSSION WITH ALL INTERESTED PARTIES? SO THE POLICE TRANSIT, US BICYCLE COALITION, WHOEVER HAS A STAKE IN THIS, AND LAY OUT AND, AND GIVE THE PROS AND CONS OF THE, THE VARIOUS BILLS AND GET INPUT, RIGHT? SO WE CAN ORGANIZE IT AS A WORKSHOP AND INVITE EVERYBODY TO IT AS A POSSIBILITY.

UH, SO, SO COMMUNITY WOULD BE THERE PLUS THE BIKE COMMUNITY PLUS WE WOULD BE, AND EVERYBODY ELSE WOULD BE THERE BECAUSE THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR, FOR EVERYBODY RIGHT NOW.

IT'S A REALLY HOT TOPIC, AND I THINK WE HAVE THIS, AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S TIME HAS COME, WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT WE WANT AND THEN DELIVER THAT UP TO OUR STATE LEGISLATURE AS, HEY, HERE'S, HERE'S WHAT'S GONNA WORK FOR US.

AND IT WOULD BE A VERY POWERFUL STATEMENT GOING UPSTAIRS IF IT COMES FROM THE CITY GROUP OF SOME SORT.

ANYWAY, I JUST, IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF DOING THAT, I, I LIKE THE IDEA OF A WORKSHOP.

CERTAINLY I KNOW LIKE THE LEGISLATIVE DEADLINE IS MAY FOR LIKE TO ADVANCE BILLS AND WHATNOT.

SO I WOULD NOT PREFER TO, YOU KNOW, I WOULD PREFER TO HAVE THE FOCUS BE ON POLICIES, UH, WITHIN THE LEGISLATIONS VERSUS THE LAWS THEMSELVES.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND THAT I THINK WOULD BE MORE DURABLE AND, YOU KNOW, THAN LIKE A SPECIFIC LEGISLATIVE SORT OF DISCUSSION.

SO, UM, THERE ARE A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT ELECTRIC VEHICLE POLICIES, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE INCLUDING THESE LAWS.

UH, CERTAINLY YOU CAN LOOK AT WHAT THEY'VE DONE DOWN IN MARIN.

UM, YOU KNOW, THEIR FIRST SET OF REGULATIONS WAS, UM, NOT VERY SUCCESSFUL.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE RENT IGA DID SOME GOOD REPORTING ON THIS.

UM, BUT THEIR MORE RECENT INNOVATION WAS MORE OF A SAFETY CAMPAIGN, WHICH IS, UM, CERTAINLY CUT DOWN ON THE NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS.

UM, AND SO WE CAN CERTAINLY LEARN FROM MARIN AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE IF THAT WORKSHOP WERE TO OCCUR, UM, TO INVITE THEM TO COME SPEAK, UM, YOU KNOW, PLUS,

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YOU KNOW, THE VARIOUS, UM, INTEREST GROUPS AND WHATNOT.

BUT, UM, HAVE IT BE LESS FOCUSED ON INDIVIDUAL LEGISLATION.

UH, AND YOU KNOW, THE LAST THING I'LL SAY IN THE LEGISLATIVE PIECE, I MEAN THAT'S, UH, IT SEEMS LIKE A CAL CITIES CONVERSATION AND WHOEVER OUR, UM, STAKE STAKEHOLDER IS AT CAL CITIES, I WOULD ASK THEM TO ASK CAL CITIES AND THEN REPORT THAT BACK TO US BECAUSE I IMAGINE CAL CITIES IS HOPEFULLY ALREADY HAVING THIS CONVERSATION.

UM, YOU KNOW, I WOULD BE SHOCKED IF THEY'RE NOT.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT WORK SEEMS, I WOULD IMAGINE IS ALREADY OCCURRING, UH, AT LEAST ABOUT THE LEGISLATION.

UH, BUT THE POLICIES WHICH MAYBE DON'T MAKE IT INTO LAW, UH, BUT ARE GOOD POLICIES AND THAT WE CAN DO OURSELVES, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD OUTCOME, UM, FOR ME.

ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? NO.

OKAY.

DOES, WOULD STAFF LIKE TO GIVE ANY INPUT? WHAT HAVE YOU HEARD OR, OR WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON PUTTING SOMETHING TOGETHER? I MEAN, THESE ARE, I I I, WHAT I HEARD WAS THE RECOMMENDATION EXCEPT FOR THE LAST ITEM, WAS TO GET INPUT FROM COMMISSIONERS AND THEN HAVE A MORE DISCUSSED DIS DISCUSSION ON AN AGENDA ITEM IN JULY.

IS THAT CORRECT? FOR THE FIRST THREE? YEAH.

AND THEN I THINK THE, THE, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE OTHERS, UM, ARE GOOD RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK IF THERE IS A WORKSHOP THAT TAKES SOME COORDINATION, UM, SO, AND, AND CAL CITIES, I, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.

UH, COMMISSIONER PETERS, I'M SURE THAT THEY'VE ALREADY THOUGHT ABOUT THIS ISSUE.

SO WE CAN SHARE, UM, ANY POSITIONS ON THOSE BILLS.

UM, ALSO, CAL BIKES IS ALSO, UH, WORKING ON THIS, UH, AS LOTS OF FOLKS ARE WORKING ON THIS THROUGHOUT.

SO IT'S A MATTER OF DO WE SIT BACK AND JUST WATCH AND THEN ACCEPT WHAT GETS HAPPENED OR DO WE WORK HARD TO GIVE INPUT, UH, INTO THE PROCESS.

SO, AND WE GOTTA DO IT SOONER THAN LATER.

AND I THINK JULY MAY BE A LITTLE LATE, UH, TO, TO, 'CAUSE BY THEN IT'S GONNA BE PRETTY MUCH A DONE DEAL BECAUSE THIS THING'S ON THE FLOOR NOW .

SO DO WE WANT TO ORGAN HELP ORGANIZE A, A WORKSHOP OF SOME SORT OR, OR FIND OUT IF THERE IS GOING TO BE SOME ORGANIZED BY SOMEBODY AND THEN GET IT ADVERTISED AND MOVED FORWARD? YEAH, SO THIS, UM, SO REGULATION ON E MOBILITY WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS IN THE COUNCIL GOALS AND PRIORITIES, UM, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS ADDED.

UM, SO I WOULD NOT SUGGEST THAT WE LOOK AT DOING SOMETHING UNILATERALLY HERE.

I THINK I CAN BRING IT TO, UM, STAFF AND SAY THAT THERE'S INTEREST IF THAT IS THE CASE FROM THE COMMISSION, TO DO A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT ON THAT, UM, AND NOT BE PRESCRIPTIVE HERE ON THE DAIS WHERE IT'S DIFFICULT.

YEAH, THAT, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE FINE.

I COULD, I COULD ACCEPT THAT AT THIS TIME.

UM, AND THEN THERE MAY BE OTHERS THAT MAY BE MOVING FORWARD ON THIS.

SO THE BY COALITION MAY BE MOVING FORWARD, UM, UH, AND, AND, AND THE BY COMMUNITY MAY BE MOVING FORWARD ON IT.

SO JUST A MATTER OF BEING AWARE.

AND THEN, UM, IF WE CAN GET A A, A UNIFORM, EVERYBODY'S SORT OF LIKE, HEY, WE GOT AN AGREEMENT ON THIS IS THIS IS WHERE WE NEED TO GO.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, I THINK.

UM, BUT IT HAS TO BE DONE SOON.

OKAY.

ANYWAY, THAT I'D GO WITH THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT, THAT USE THIS FED US BACK.

SOUNDS GOOD.

UH, I HAVE A COMMENT.

SO I, I AGREE WITH LIKE A LOT OF WHAT HAS BEEN SAID, BUT I THINK, I THINK IF, UH, BIKES ARE E-BIKES ARE TOO HEAVILY REGULATED, THEN THE MARKET WILL GO DOWN BECAUSE I SEE LIKE A LOT OF LIKE PEOPLE USING E-BIKES AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING BECAUSE IT LIKE CUTS EMISSIONS AND IT'S, IF IT'S EASILY ACCESSIBLE, THEN IT'S HELPFUL.

SO YEAH, SOUNDS LIKE YOU MIGHT WANNA BE IN THAT DISCUSSION.

YEAH, I THINK THAT'S TRUE.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER SRI WAS SAYING, LIKE, WE DON'T WANNA OVERREGULATE THEM, BUT THERE DOES NEED TO BE SAFETY CONSIDERED AND RIGHT.

SO YEAH, THE RIGHT BALANCE BETWEEN SAFETY AND REGULATIONS, UM, AND ALSO ENFORCEABILITY SO THAT IT'S PRACTICAL AND, AND DOABLE.

WHAT, WHAT IS WE'RE EXPECTING THE POLICE TO COME AND DO FOR US, BECAUSE A LOT OF IT, SOME OF THE LAWS THAT THEY'RE GOING, BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S NO WAY THAT'S GONNA BE ENFORCED AND IT'S JUST GONNA CAUSE MORE TROUBLES IN, IN THE MARKETPLACE.

SO YEAH.

SO, UH, WE GOTTA GET IT, GET THE REGULATIONS RIGHT.

OKAY.

SO FOLLOW UP ON THAT WOULD

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BE PATRICK BRINGS IT TO THE CITY.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

UM, IF WE ARE READY TO MOVE ON FROM THE EV AD HOC, OKAY, THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE COMMUNICATIONS TEAM, WHICH HAS, UH, BEEN MOVED FROM AN AD HOC TOOL WORKING GROUP, AND WE HAVE A PRESENTATION TODAY, UM, FROM ANDY STRADER.

UM, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SORT OF THE CORE GROUP OF THE COMMUNICATIONS TEAM IS MARIE, WHOSE NAME, LAST NAME I'M FORGETTING, BUT FROM RECOLOGY.

UM, THERE'S A NEW PETALUMA RESIDENT NAMED BRENT WHO IS LIKE A, LIKE A KIND OF A BIG DEAL, LIKE MADMAN TYPE OF GUY THAT MOVED HERE FROM NEW YORK, UM, WHO'S JUST, YOU KNOW, BLESSED US WITH HIS PRESENCE.

HE'S AMAZING.

AND THEN, UM, ANDY SCHRADER HERE AND UM, DONNA FROM MERCANTILE, MYSELF, ALISON FROM COOL PETALUMA.

AND DEB HAS ALSO BEEN VERY HELPFUL IN THOSE DISCUSSIONS.

SO I'M GONNA JUST HAND IT OVER TO ANDY TO PRESENT TO YOU WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE SOME TIME FOR QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION AFTER.

THANK YOU.

MADAM CHAIR, I'M ANDY SCHRADER.

I REPRESENT THE CITY OF PETALUMA ON THE S-C-T-C-A CLIMATE ACTION ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

I'M PART OF THE COMMUNICATIONS WORKING GROUP THAT AMY WAS TALKING ABOUT, WHICH WE'RE CALLING THE LUMINATORS.

AND HOPEFULLY AFTER THE PRESENTATION YOU'LL UNDERSTAND WHY.

UH, TONIGHT I'M GONNA PRE PRESENT OUR DRAFT COLLABORATIVE COMMUNICATIONS PLAN AND WE'D LIKE TO WORKSHOP IT WITH YOU ALL A LITTLE BIT TONIGHT, SEE WHAT'S WORKING, SEE WHAT'S NOT WORKING, WHAT CAN BE IMPROVED, AND WHAT WE TOTALLY WHIFFED ON.

AND, UH, WE'LL BE NEXT WORKSHOPPING IT AT THE, UH, AT THE CLIMATE ROUND TABLE IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS SO YOU GET A, A SECOND SHOT AT IT IF YOU COME TO THAT.

SO FOR SOME QUICK BACKGROUND, THIS HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO THE S-C-T-C-A CLIMATE ACTION COMMITTEE, THE MARIN CLIMATE AND ENERGY PARTNERSHIP, THE CLIMATE STAFF AT THE CITIES OF NOVATO AND NAPA.

AND EVERYONE ACROSS THE BOARD HAS SAID, YES, WE LIKE THE CONCEPT, WE NEED THIS, WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO DO IT OURSELVES.

GO MAKE IT HAPPEN.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.

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SO THE PROBLEM IS, YOU ALL KNOW THIS AND WE, WHAT WE'RE SOLVING FOR NEXT SLIDE IS THIS, LA IS STILL IN ASHES.

I THOUGHT AFTER THE FIRES, THAT ACTION WOULD RAMP UP STATEWIDE.

WE LOSE 12,000 STRUCTURES AND PRETTY MUCH CRICKETS AT THE STATE LEVEL.

SO, AND, AND WHAT'S IN THE NEWS BARELY IS THAT THE GLOBAL FIRE FIRE OUTBREAKS HAVE HIT A NEW RECORD HIGH AND WE'RE EXPECTING A SUPER EL NINO, WHICH WILL ONLY MAKE THINGS WORSE.

AND CLIMATE ACTION IS JUST KIND OF VANISHED FROM, FROM ANYTHING.

UH, THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY IS NEVER GONNA FIX CLIMATE CHANGE, FORGET ABOUT THE US GOVERNMENT.

SO IT'S REALLY UP TO US.

AND THE SECOND PROBLEM IS WE'VE SET A LOT OF TERRIFIC GOALS.

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AGAIN, WE'VE SET A, UH, A LOT OF TERRIFIC GOALS, ESPECIALLY AROUND HERE.

WE'VE DECLARED CLIMATE EMERGENCIES, BUT THEN WE HAVEN'T HAD AN EFFECTIVE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.

SO EVERYBODY IN EVERY MUNICIPALITY IS OVERWORKED, UNDER-RESOURCED, STRAPPED FOR TIME, MONEY, PEOPLE CAPACITY.

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UH, SO WE'VE SET, UH, LAST SLIDE ACTUALLY.

SO USING SONOMA AND MARIN COUNTY AS AN, AS AN EXAMPLE, EVERY CITY HAS DECLARED A 2030 CARBON NEUTRAL GOAL NEUTRALITY GOAL.

BUT THEN WITHIN THEIR CLIMATE ACTION PLANS, THEY GENERALLY PUNT AND REFER TO THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA'S GOAL OF 2045.

AND IF YOU'RE PAYING ATTENTION, IF YOU'RE ACTUALLY PAYING ATTENTION, THAT'S FAR, FAR TOO LATE.

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AND ESPECIALLY AFTER PRESIDENT BIDEN'S OUTSTANDING CLIMATE PACKAGE WENT AWAY.

THE REASON IS SUPER BASIC.

YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL ABOUT THE ASTERISK.

WE'LL DO THIS IF WE HAVE THE RESOURCES.

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SO WE, ON THE COMMUNICATIONS WORKING GROUP, TRULY BELIEVE WE'D HAVE A BETTER CHANCE IF WE COLLABORATED, IF WE SHARED RESOURCES AND WORKED TOGETHER, GOVERNMENT ENTITIES AND AGENCIES, NGOS, UTILITIES, SCHOOL DISTRICTS, STOP IT WITH THE ONE-OFF MESSAGING, CONSERVE WATER HERE, SAVE ENERGY THERE, CLEAN UP COMPOST CONTAMINATION OVER THERE.

NOBODY KNOWS WHERE TO FOCUS THEMSELVES AND THEIR TWO LITTLE FREE TIME.

SO THE COMMUNICATIONS WORKING GROUP WANTED TO SEE IF WE COULD BUILD A COMMUNICATION INFRASTRUCTURE, A CLIMATE ACTION ENGINE THAT MAXIMIZES EVERYBODY'S TIME, MAXIMIZES EVERYBODY'S MESSAGING, AND HELPS US REALLY GET THINGS DONE IN A MEASURABLE WAY TO REALLY ACTUALLY MEET OUR CLIMATE GOALS BEFORE

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ANOTHER DECADE OF DESTRUCTION GOES BY.

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SO WE'VE GOT SOME GREAT EXAMPLES NEARBY OF REGIONAL COLLABORATION.

MASCOTS IS A COLLABORATION AMONG ALL THESE CITIES IN SONOMA AND MARIN BAIN IS A COALITION OF THE BAY AREA NINE COUNTIES.

NEXT SLIDE, UH, BAYROCK IS MAYBE OUR BEST, MOST RELEVANT EXAMPLE.

IT'S A COLLABORATION AMONG STAFF REPRESENTING OVER 40 BAY AREA CITIES, COUNTIES, AND OTHER PUBLIC AGENCIES WHO WORK TOGETHER ON A JOINT ZERO WASTE WEEK, SHARING RESOURCES, SHARING MESSAGING THROUGH A VARIETY OF, OF MEDIA CAMPAIGNS.

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AND IT'S, SO IT'S NOT THAT THESE MODELS DON'T EXIST, BUT THEY WEREN'T SPECIFICALLY BUILT AROUND A WHOLE SLATE OF CLIMATE ACTION.

NEXT SLIDE, WHICH OUR PROPOSAL IS, SO OUR ILLUMINATOR COMMUNICATIONS GROUP IS WORKING TO GATHER UP THE GOALS AND PLANS OF THE OTHER PETALUMA CLIMATE ROUNDTABLE WORKING GROUPS AND ORGANIZE THEM INTO QUARTERS.

SO EACH QUARTER WILL HAVE A SPECIFIC TIGHT FOCUS, A SPOTLIGHT.

SO THE GOAL IS TO START THIS IN Q3 WITH TRANSPORTATION AND GET ALL THE PARTICIPATING ENTITIES TO AGREE TO MESSAGE TOGETHER ON A COLLABORATIVE TRANSPORTATION GOAL.

LIKE LET'S REDUCE OUR AUTO TRIPS BY 5%.

AND THEN EACH QUARTER WE MOVE THROUGH THE YEAR AND WE GET AN, UH, A SPOTLIGHT TO, UH, A WASTE SPOTLIGHT IN Q4 AND, UH, UH, BUILDING EFFICIENCY SPOTLIGHT IN Q1 OF NEXT YEAR IN Q2, BIODIVERSITY AND COMPOST AND HEALTHY SOILS AND Q3 PREPAREDNESS.

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SO THEN THROUGH THIS CAMPAIGN, THE LUMINATORS WILL GET THE MESSAGE OUT THERE TO THE PEOPLE WE'VE BEEN, WE HAVEN'T BEEN ENGAGING ON THE ADOPTION CURVE.

WE ALREADY HAVE THE ATTENTION OF THE INNOVATORS.

NOW WE WANT TO HIT THE EARLY ADOPTERS, THE EARLY MAJORITY, THE LATE MAJORITY.

WE WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA DO THIS NEXT SLIDE TOGETHER.

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AND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE IN PRACTICE? THAT MEANS IF WE SET THAT GOAL TO REDUCE AUTO TRIPS BY 5%, WE GET THE BASELINE FROM THE TRANSIT AGENCIES, WE CAN MEASURE OUR SUCCESS.

WE GET THE USUAL SUSPECTS, SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL, PETALUMA, TRANSIT, MASCOTS, SMART, ALL TOUTING THE SAME GOAL AT THE SAME TIME.

BUT NEXT SLIDE, WE ALSO GET THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND NGO PARTNERS AND SCHOOLS AND UTILITIES, ALL MESSAGING THE SAME THING FOR AN ENTIRE QUARTER.

PROMOTING ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION WORKSHOPS, CHANGE YOUR COMMUTE DAYS, BOOK GROUPS, FILM SCREENINGS, ALL WITH THE GOAL OF, OF CHANGING THE WASTEFUL HABITS THAT ARE DRIVING CLIMATE DESTRUCTION.

AND THEN AFTER A FULL QUARTER AT THE END, WE CAN COUNT OUR SUCCESSES, SEE WHERE WE CAME UP SHORT, AND THEN WE DO IT FOR A FULL QUARTER AGAIN NEXT YEAR AND WE CAN SEE WHERE WE SHOULD FOCUS OUR RESOURCES NEXT TIME.

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AND SO WHAT DOES THAT ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE IN PRACTICE? ACTUALLY, ACTUALLY NEXT SLIDE.

SO WE DON'T ASK FOR EXAMPLE, SONOMA WATER TO HALT THEIR USUAL PRACTICES.

WE JUST ASK FOR A LITTLE REAL ESTATE ON THEIR NEWSLETTER OR SOCIAL MEDIA PROMOTING THE COALITION WORK.

AND WHAT THEY'LL GET OUT OF IT LATER IS A LARGER COLLABORATIVE SPOTLIGHT ON WATER CONSERVATION OR WATER QUALITY WHEN IT'S THEIR TURN, WHEN THEIR TURN COMES UP.

NEXT SLIDE, THE COALITION MEMBERS WILL SHARE FOR ANOTHER EXAMPLE, FACEBOOK EVENTS OR NEXT SLIDE.

PARTICIPATING BUSINESSES AROUND TOWN CAN PUT UP AN EVERGREEN FLYER ON THEIR WINDOWS SO PEOPLE CAN CLICK THE QR CODE AND THEY COULD ALWAYS BE REMINDED TO CHECK IN AND SEE WHAT THE CURRENT GOAL IS AND WHAT THEY CAN DO ABOUT IT.

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SO WE WON'T HAVE ALL THESE COMPETING MESSAGES WE CONSTANTLY HAVE AND WE CAN BE FOCUSED AND HOPEFULLY MORE EFFECTIVE.

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AND WE'RE HOPING THE BEST PART IS EVERY QUARTER WE CAN SET AND REACH ACHIEVABLE, MEASURABLE GOALS.

AND WE CAN KNOW THAT WE ARE, WE CAN KNOW AND WE LOUDLY PROMOTE THAT WE'RE MAKING COLLECTIVE PROGRESS AND WE CAN TRACK WHICH PART OF THE CITY NEEDS MORE FOCUS.

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AND MAYBE THE BEST PART YET, WE START OFF EACH QUARTER WITH A RELEVANT THEMATIC COMMUNITY-WIDE EVENT THAT HELPS TO SAVE THE CITY MONEY AND THEREFORE THE TAXPAYERS MONEY THROUGH CLEANUPS AND TREE PLANTINGS, ET CETERA.

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SO THESE ARE THE EXAMPLES.

NEXT SLIDE OF PARTNERS WE'RE ENVISIONING AROUND THE REGION.

WE'RE GONNA START

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IN PETALUMA FIRST, BUT SCHOOLS, UTILITIES, GOVERNMENT AGENCIES, UH, OTHER CITIES AND TOWNS.

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AND THEN WE HAVE SO MANY INCREDIBLE NGOS AND CIVIC GROUPS.

IMAGINE WHAT COULD HAPPEN IF THEY ACTUALLY COLLABORATED.

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AND THEN THE LARGER GOAL.

WE HAVE 2300 CITIES AROUND THE WORLD THAT FOLLOWED PETALUMA AND SONOMA COUNTY AND DECLARING CLIMATE EMERGENCIES.

AND THEY ALSO WANT TO FIGURE OUT EFFECTIVE IMPLEMENTATION.

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SO THEY'RE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING AWESOME.

WE WANT TO HELP, WE WANT TO FIGURE IT OUT TO HELP THEM GET IT RIGHT AFTER WE GET IT RIGHT.

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SO OUR QUESTIONS FOR YOU TONIGHT.

QUICKLY, DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS, FEEDBACK, WHAT ARE WE MISSING? WHO ELSE SHOULD BE INVOLVED? ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

THANKS THE END.

THANK YOU.

UM, OKAY, LET'S BRING IT TO THE COMMISSION.

ANY QUESTIONS, FEEDBACK I HAVE.

OH, UH, QUICK FEEDBACK.

LOVE IT.

UM, SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THIS.

I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.

AND ONE OF MY MAIN QUESTIONS WHEN YOU WERE PRESENTING WAS JUST ABOUT HOW DO YOU MAXIMIZE STREAMLINING MESSAGING WHEN EVERYONE DOES HAVE FUNDAMENTALLY DIFFERENT GOALS? AND I THINK WHAT YOU'VE PROPOSED AROUND TAKING TURNS, UM, IN COMMS MAKES SENSE.

UM, I'M ALSO WONDERING IF THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES TO TIE IT TO OTHER OPPORTUNITIES.

UM, AND BY MY QUESTION THERE IS, WHO WOULD BE STEWARDING THIS COLLECTIVE EFFORT? BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH YOU COULD DO, YOU COULD ALIGN FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES, YOU COULD ALIGN, UM, YOU KNOW, THE HISTORICAL MUSEUM EXHIBITS.

UH, THERE'S AN ENDLESS, UH, AMOUNT OF THINGS THAT YOU CAN FUNNEL INTO THIS.

AND SO WHAT WOULD BE THE STEWARDING ENTITY FOR THAT COORDINATION? WELL, RIGHT NOW IT'S US, BUT HOPEFULLY THE GOAL IS TO FIGURE THAT OUT.

YOU KNOW, IF BEST CASE SCENARIO, IF EACH ENTITY HAS LIKE 5 CENTS THAT THEY CAN SPEND ON COMMS, AND WE POOL THOSE 5 CENTS, SO SUDDENLY EVERYBODY HAS A DOLLAR, THEN EVERYBODY'S MORE EFFECTIVE IN DOING WHAT THEY DO.

AND ONCE WE GET THIS UP AND RUNNING FROM A PILOT, I THINK THERE'S A BIG OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK FOR GRANTS TO FUNDRAISE TO, TO GET AN ENTITY TO, TO WRAP ITS ARMS AROUND IT.

BAYROCK, UH, THE ZERO WASTE, UH, EVENT THAT HAPPENS EVERY OCTOBER, THEY'VE GOT ONE PERSON WHO KIND OF ORGANIZES THAT EVERY YEAR.

AND THE QUESTION THAT WE REALLY ARE ASKING IS, HOW CAN WE DO THAT CONSTANTLY THROUGHOUT THE YEAR? SO I THINK, I THINK IT'S POSSIBLE.

AND WE'RE, WE'RE BASICALLY RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST SPIT BALLING AND TRYING IT OUT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

AND WE'LL DO ANOTHER ITERATION NEXT QUARTER AND SEE HOW WE CAN IMPROVE IT.

AND WHEN IT GETS TOO BIG TO MANAGE, HOPEFULLY IT'LL BE SUCCESSFUL ENOUGH THAT WE CAN BRING RESOURCES.

YEAH, ONE FOLLOW UP POINT, UM, WHICH YOU ARE LIKELY ALREADY CONSIDERING IS I KNOW THAT I DON'T BELIEVE I'M SIGNED UP TO LIKE SONOMA WATERS LISTSERV, AND MAYBE I SHOULD BE, BUT THOSE COMMUNITY NGOS ARE THE ONES THAT I RECEIVE EMAILS FROM EVERY SINGLE DAY, MULTIPLE TIMES.

THEY ALSO LEVERAGE THOSE EMAILS AS THEIR FUNDRAISING OPPORTUNITIES.

LIKE THAT'S HOW THEY SOLICIT DONORS.

AND SO HAVING A DIFFERENT MESSAGE BE FRONT AND CENTER IS SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO NAVIGATE IN YOUR CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM BECAUSE THAT MEANS THEIR OWN MESSAGING AND THEIR OWN ASKS FOR FUNDS IS GONNA BE PUT SECONDARY.

UM, WHICH IS A PRETTY CONSIDERABLE ASK.

AND SO JUST THINKING THAT THROUGH AS YOU NAVIGATE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM.

AGREE.

THANK YOU? YES.

YEAH.

YOU HAD A, A LIST OF SOME OF THE MAJOR, UH, PLAYERS, UH, AND THAT WOULD BE IN PARTNERSHIP TO GET THIS DONE.

HAVE YOU ALREADY TALKED TO ALL OF THEM ALREADY TO SEE, TO GET THEIR, UM, OPINIONS ON THIS, UH, PROGRAM? WE THOUGHT WE SHOULD BRING IT TO THE CITY'S, UH, CLIMATE COMMISSION FIRST.

.

GOOD.

WELL, I, I, I THINK WE, WE KNOW, WE KNOW WHERE OUR BREAD IS BUTTERED.

YES.

YES.

IT'S HERE.

AND OF COURSE, WE'RE ALL IN FAVOR OF IT ALL.

SO THE VERY NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO, UM, THE MAJOR PLAYERS FIRST AND THEN THE NGOS, UM, AS THE OTHER, UH, COMMISSIONERS MENTIONED.

UM, 'CAUSE THAT IS A SECONDARY MESSAGE TO THEIR PRIMARY MISSION, MAYBE.

UH, SO GETTING THEM ON BOARD MAY BE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A TASK, UH, TO, TO GET IN LINE WITH THIS EFFORT.

SO, BUT IT SAYS IF THE MODEL WORKS, UH, IT COULD GO VIRAL.

SO I THINK IT'S WORTH THE EFFORT, UH, THAT YOU DO THIS.

AND, AND THE, THE BIG GOAL REALLY IS, UH, IF WE CAN PROVIDE THE PROOF IN THE PUDDING, IS TO GET THE STATE TO FUND ALL THE CITIES TO KIND OF DO THIS TOGETHER ULTIMATELY, AND HAVE AN ENTITY AT THAT LEVEL, UH, ORGANIZING IT.

RIGHT.

AND, UH, SOME OF THE KEYS IS IN THE COMMUNICATIONS BECAUSE, UM, EVERYONE'S NOW FEELING A LITTLE FLOODED WITH, UM, UH, CHAOS.

UM, SO GETTING

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THIS MESSAGE OUT, UH, WE NEED TO TURN IT INTO A MORE POSITIVE, UH, 'CAUSE I KNOW I'M EVEN WORKING WITH LIKE THE REST, UH, CLIMATE RESTORATION GROUPS.

THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT EVEN BIGGER GLOBAL, UH, THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO.

SO GETTING, UM, UH, THE MESSAGING TO BE A POSITIVE, UM, RESULT DRIVEN, SOLUTION DRIVEN RATHER THAN, UM, UH, HERE WE'VE GOT PROBLEMS. SO THAT'S GOTTA BE A HUGE PART OF THE, THAT MESSAGING.

UM, IT'S DOABLE.

WE, WE CAN, UH, GET THERE TYPE OF, UH, ATTITUDE IN EVERY SINGLE MESSAGING.

SO THAT HAS TO BE MADE SURE THAT THAT'S PART OF THE MESSAGING SYSTEM.

THANK YOU.

FOR SURE.

UM, I'LL JUST COMMENT ON THAT AND SAY THAT MARIE MEYER, I THINK IS HER LAST NAME.

THAT'S IT.

NEMEYER, UM, FROM ECOLOGY IS HELPING US WITH THE, THE SORT OF BRANDING.

AND SHE IS A VERY POSITIVE PERSON, AND HER INFLUENCE IS DEFINITELY COMING ACROSS.

WE TRIED TO GET HER, UM, DRAFT OF THE, THE BRANDING, UM, THE FIRST DRAFT OF ALL THE BRANDING STUFF TO BRING TO YOU TODAY.

BUT SHE'S THE BUSY PERSON, AND SO WE JUST DIDN'T GET IT IN THE SLIDESHOW.

BUT WE CAN BRING THAT BACK WHEN IT, WHEN IT'S BEEN HAMMERED OUT A LITTLE MORE.

AND WE'LL HAVE POSITIVE COMMUNICATIONS IS SUPER KEY BECAUSE NOBODY WANTS, WANTS TO FEEL LIKE NOBODY WANTS TO SEE DOOM AND GLOOM.

LIKE WE SEE ENOUGH OF THAT IN THE NEWS.

AND SO IT'S VERY MUCH, UH, THIS IS FUN.

LET'S DO THIS TOGETHER.

LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DO THIS.

YEAH.

ARE YOU INCLUDING IMAGES AS PART OF THAT BRANDING WORK? OR IS IT ABOUT MESSAGING IN TERMS OF BRANDING? UM, THERE'S, YEAH, A VISUAL BRANDING ALSO.

UM, IT'S SORT OF LIKE RIGHT NOW THE FIRST DRAFT WAS SORT OF LIKE A HIPPIE KIND OF LIKE, UM, RAINBOW COLORS AND LIKE, YOU KNOW.

OKAY.

YEAH.

UM, THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE DON'T WANNA SEE IN ADDITION TO DOOM AND GLOOM IS AI IMAGERY.

SO JUST WANTING TO FLAG THAT UP FRONT THAT WE SHOULD NOT PURSUE THAT AVENUE CHAIR.

ASHLEY? YES.

UM, BEFORE WORKING FOR THE CITY OF PETALUMA, I WORKED FOR ZERO WASTE SONOMA, AND I KNOW THAT WE WERE, UM, WE USED BAYROCK, UM, PRETTY EXTENSIVELY DURING MY TIME THERE.

UM, I THINK THEY MAY HAVE MOVED AWAY FROM THAT RECENTLY.

UM, BUT I CAN CHECK WITH, WITH ZERO WASTE SONOMA STAFF TO GET THEIR TAKE ON THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S A, A PAID SERVICE TO PARTICIPATE IN BAYROCK.

BASICALLY, THEY ADVERTISE, THEY HAVE CONSISTENT MESSAGING, JUST LIKE ANDY SAID, BUT THEY TARGET PEOPLE WITHIN THE AREAS THAT PAY FOR THE SERVICE.

SO FOR AT ZERO WASTE SONOMA, WHEN WE PAID INTO THEIR PROGRAM, THEY WOULD ADVERTISE THINGS IN SONOMA COUNTY ON BEHALF OF EVERYBODY.

SO, UM, I CAN EXPLORE THEIR EXPERIENCE WITH THAT.

I THINK IT MAY NOT BE A DISSATISFACTION WITH THEIR SERVICE.

I THINK THEIR MESSAGING KIND OF CHANGED A LITTLE BIT.

BUT IF THERE WAS A CONSISTENT, A CONCERTED EFFORT TO HAVE CLIMATE MESSAGING WITH BAYROCK, UM, THAT MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, THEY PROBABLY, IF THEY WERE GETTING PAID TO DO IT, THEY WOULD BE MORE LIKELY TO DO IT.

SO I CAN, I CAN VOLUNTEER TO, UM, GIVE, YOU KNOW, INFORM THE COMMISSION ON, UH, ZERO WASTE SONOMA'S, UH, EXPERIENCE WITH BAYROCK.

OKAY.

A VOLUNTEER ON THAT.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S GREAT.

UM, AND THEN I DON'T, I THINK IT WAS MAYBE CLEAR, BUT I, I, I DO ALSO WANNA JUST MAKE SURE THAT IT'S EXPLICITLY SAID THAT WE'RE NOT, LIKE, THIS GROUP IS NOT TRYING TO CREATE SOMETHING NEW OR LIKE DO SOMETHING.

WE'RE TRYING TO ILLUMINATE WHAT IS ALREADY BEING DONE, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF REALLY GOOD STUFF ALREADY BEING DONE.

AND IT'S KIND OF LIKE SOMETIMES THE LEFT HAND DOESN'T KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT HAND IS DOING.

AND SO WE'RE LIKE THE NEURONS IN BETWEEN, LIKE, JUST MAKING SURE THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT'S HAPPENING AND, UM, TRYING TO CONNECT OPPORTUNITIES, UM, AND PEOPLE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I'D LOVE YOUR FEEDBACK.

I, I HAVE, I GUESS, SOME BROADER QUESTIONS.

UM, WHAT IS GOING ON AT THE REGIONAL CLIMATE PROTECTION AUTHORITY? LIKE IS, WELL, SO, SO ULTIMATELY IT WOULD BE GREAT IF THEY TOOK THIS OVER AND IT WAS PITCHED TO THEM FIRST AS A WAY TO RAISE UP THEIR EFFECTIVENESS.

BUT THEY'RE NOT AS RESOURCED AS THEY COULD BE TO, TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

UHHUH, THEY'VE, THEY'VE MERGED, UH, THE TRANSIT AUTHORITY HAS, HAS NOW SORT OF SWALLOWED THE RCPA SIDE OF THINGS, AND NOW IT'S THE SONOMA COUNTY TRANSIT AND CLIMATE AUTHORITY.

UM, BUT THEY'RE STILL DOING THE SAME WORK THAT THEY WERE DOING.

IT'S JUST REBRANDED.

OKAY.

SO THAT EXPLAINS WHY, WHY THE WEBSITE IS FROM 2024 STILL.

OKAY.

THAT'S A COMMUNICATION PROBLEM RIGHT THERE.

THEY SHOULD REDIRECT.

UM, OKAY.

BUT WHAT, WHAT ARE, WHAT IS THE SAME STUFF THEY'RE DOING? I MEAN, THEY TALK ABOUT EVERY MEANING.

SO, BC CAPS, FOR INSTANCE, IS, UH, DOING A REASSESSMENT OF THE CLIMATE EMISSIONS.

UH, YOU GUYS KNOW THIS BETTER THAN I DO

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THE CLIMATE INVENTORY.

AND, UM, THAT'S KIND OF THE MAIN THING THAT THEY'RE DOING RIGHT NOW THAT THEY REPORTED ON THEY'RE DOING.

AND DEB, DEB CAN TALK MORE ABOUT IT TOO.

YEAH.

THE EV, EQUITABLE CHARGING MASTER PLAN, THEY'RE ABOUT TO REDO THEIR, UH, UH, BIG REPORT.

IT'S ABOUT THEIR, I'M FORGETTING THE NAME OF IT.

THEY'RE DOING, THEY'RE WORKING ON ANOTHER REPORT.

UM, THE ACT ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION.

NO, NO.

'CAUSE THAT'S, UH, YEAH.

WELL, TANYA'S DOING AN UPDATE ON THE CLIMATE ACTION.

THE, THERE IT IS.

STRATEGIC, YES.

CLIMATE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.

YEAH.

MM-HMM .

CLIMATE MOBILIZATION PLAN.

YEP.

THAT'S IT.

UH, THANK YOU.

UH, YEAH.

SO THEY, AND THEN THEY ORGANIZE LIKE A COORDINATED, UH, WE TRIED TO ORGANIZE THE, ALL THE CITIES TO DO, UH, TO PREPARE FOR PROP $4.

IT'S THE SAME ISSUE AS THAT EVERYONE'S HOLDING TIGHT 'CAUSE THEY JUST NEED THE DOLLARS FOR THEMSELVES.

AND SO A COLLABORATION AT THE STATE IS A LITTLE HARD.

SO, BUT THEY HELPED ORGANIZE THAT.

BUT IT IS JUST A TEAM OF TWO, UM, THAT MAKES UP THAT SIDE OF THE HOUSE.

THAT, AND THEY DON'T GENERATE, UH, THE TRANSPORTATION SIDE IS FUNDED BY VERY, UH, ROAD DOLLARS.

IT'S VERY DIFFERENT FUNDING.

THE, THE CLIMATE SIDE OF THE HOUSE IS FUNDED LIKE MOST CLIMATE FOLKS IS, IT'S JUST A VERY SMALL SIDE OF THE PORTION OF THE PIE.

FURTHER INPUT.

WELL, IF YOU HAVE MORE COME TO THE CLIMATE ACTION ROUND TABLE.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

CLIMATE ACTION ROUND TABLE OR THE COMMUNICATIONS TEAM, THE ILLUMINATORS MEET EVERY TWO WEEKS, SO I'M HAPPY TO WELCOME YOU TO THAT ALSO.

OKAY.

I THINK WE'RE READY TO MOVE ON TO COMMISSION COMMENT.

DURING COMMISSION COMMENT.

UH, MEMBERS ARE INVITED TO BRIEFLY SHARE UPDATES RELEVANT TO THIS COMMISSION DURING LIAISON REPORTS FROM OTHER CITY BODIES, SORRY, INCLUDING LIAISON REPORTS FROM OTHER CITY BODIES, AND MAKE REQUESTS FOR FUTURE ADDENDA ITEMS. DIALOGUE BETWEEN MEMBERS SHOULD BE LIMITED TO CLARIFYING QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS.

THERE WILL BE NO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.

WOULD SOMEBODY LIKE TO BEGIN COMMISSION COMMENT? CHAIR.

CHAIR.

ACTUALLY, JUST BEFORE WE MOVE ON FROM THE LAST ITEM, I KNOW HALF THE AUDIENCE MEMBERS SPOKE ON THAT LAST ITEM.

OKAY.

, BUT MAYBE WE SHOULD DO PUBLIC COMMENT JUST, OR CHECK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

ALRIGHT.

IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE WE MOVE ON? OKAY, THANK YOU.

OKAY.

[COMMISSION COMMENT]

COMMISSION COMMENT? YES.

COUNCIL MEMBERSHIPS.

OKAY.

TWO ITEMS. UM, UH, REASON I'M LATE, I HAD LEAVE THE FIVE YEAR CELEBRATION FOR RELIEF PETALUMA.

UM, AND SO I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THAT WE HAVE PLANTED THE 3000TH TREE HERE IN PETALUMA.

SO THAT JUST HAPPENED YESTERDAY, I THINK.

UM, SO THERE, THERE, THERE ARE A BIG CELEBRATION TODAY.

SO 3000 TREES WITHIN FIVE YEARS WITH THE 10,000 TREE GOAL OVER A 10 YEAR PERIOD.

UH, SO WELL ON OUR WAY IN THAT DIRECTION.

UM, AND THEY, UNFORTUNATELY, THEY, THEY'VE GOT GRANT MONEY THROUGH THIS YEAR.

UH, BUT WE NEED TO SEEK NEW GRANT MONIES, WHICH SEEMS TO BE GETTING HARDER AND HARDER TO FIND.

UM, OKAY.

THE SECOND ITEM, UM, I'M ALSO WORKING WITH A NONPROFIT GROUP CALLED DONUT ECONOMICS COALITION.

AND, UH, UH, THEY HAVE, UH, DONE A, UM, UH, A DONUT FOR CALIFORNIA.

AND, AND THIS IS THE, THE DONATE ITSELF IS THE SUSTAIN RING OF SUSTAINABILITY.

AND THE OUTSIDE OF THE RING IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS THAT ARE OVERSHOT THAT THE, UM, THAT THE STATE IN THE CASE OF CALIFORNIA COULD ACT, MAY BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT.

AND THE INSIDE OF THE RING IS THE, UM, UH, THE UNDERSHOOT FOR ALL THE SOCIAL AND, UH, SERVICES THAT, THAT WERE UNDERSHOOTING AND, AND WITH HIGH NEEDS THAT AGAIN, THE STATE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT.

SO, AND IT'S ALL BASED ON DATA, IT'S DATA DRIVEN, UM, UH, WITH RECOMMENDATIONS OF, OKAY, THE SIZE OF THE OVERSHOOT AND AN UNDERSHOOT INDICATORS OF WHERE, WHERE THE EFFORT REALLY NEEDS TO BE DONE THE MOST.

SO AFTER HAVING MET WITH THEM, UH, SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, UM, TALK SOME MORE.

AND THEY'VE DONE THREE LARGE CITIES OF WHICH ONE IS SAN JOSE.

THEY'VE ACTUALLY DONE SAN JOSE PRETTY EXTENSIVELY, CREATING A DONUT FOR THEM.

UM, AND SO WHEN I TALKED TO THEM AND, UH, PROPOSED THE IDEA THEY TO DO IT FOR A SMALL CITY, PETALUMA, THEY'RE, UH, SO THIS IS GONNA BE NEW, NEW FOR THEM TO DO A SMALL CITY, BUT THEY'RE, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT IT.

SO THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED.

UH, I'VE TALKED TO LOTS OF FOLKS NOW BOTH IN, UH, ON STAFF AND ALSO IN NONPROFITS, UH, HERE IN PETALUMA.

EVERYBODY LIKES THE IDEA OF DOING THIS IN COMBINATION WITH OUR CLIMATE ACTIONS, UH, THAT WE HAVE GOING.

UM, 'CAUSE IT IS DATA DRIVEN, MONEY BASED AND, AND ACTION ORIENTED AND SOLUTION ORIENTED.

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SO AS A, AS AN IMAGERY.

SO IT'S AN IMAGE THAT THAT IS THE END PRODUCT, BUT HAS LOTS OF DATA BEHIND IT.

UM, AND ALSO RESOURCES OR WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT.

SO I THINK WE'RE HEADING, I THINK DEB IS, IS HAS BEEN WORKING ON A, UM, UM, A PAGE, UM, BASICALLY A TEMPLATE FOR BRINGING DATA TOGETHER THAT IS ALREADY WORKING ON THAT FOR OUR CITY.

I THINK YOU'RE ALREADY DOING SOMETHING IN THAT AREA.

YOU EXPLAINED A LITTLE BIT WHAT YOU ARE DOING.

UM, BUT, UM, THE DONOR ECONOMICS.

SO I MET WITH THEM ACTUALLY TODAY.

I JUST HAD A MEETING THIS MORNING WITH THEM, AND THEY GOT A FIRST DRAFT DONE ALREADY, UH, BASED ON OUR GENERAL PLAN AND THE DATA THEY COULD GET OFF OF OUR WEBPAGE, UH, CITY AND OTHER NONPROFITS HERE IN TOWN.

SO, AND IT'S PRETTY EXTENSIVE ALREADY.

SO THEY'VE GOT A RING, THEY'VE GOT SOME BASIC, UM, UH, IMAGERY GOING.

UM, A DATA, A A SIMPLE, BUT LOTS OF DATA IS STILL MISSING THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO GARNER.

SO THE, UH, SO NOW STEPWISE NOW, SO THEIR REQUEST IS, UM, THEY NEED TO START, UH, GATHERING MORE DATA FROM, UH, THE ACTUAL FOLKS HERE IN PETALUMA THAT'S NOT ON WEBPAGES.

UM, SO THEY'RE REQUESTING, UM, UH, THAT WE START REACHING OUT.

SO ONE OF THE FIRST STEPS MIGHT BE A, UH, HAVING THEM PRESENT WHAT THEY HAVE DONE SO FAR TO US HERE AT THE CLIMATE.

'CAUSE A LOT OF THE ACTIONS ARE, ARE CLIMATE ACTION BASED, UM, AS WELL AS SOCIAL, UH, SERVICES.

SO THIS MIGHT BE THE FIRST GROUP THAT THEY WOULD COME TO, UM, AND MAYBE WORKING, UM, AND THEN MAYBE SOME STAFF MEMBERS THROUGHOUT THE CITY, UM, INCLUDING PLANNING.

PLANNING IS ANOTHER AREA THAT MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN, IN DOING THIS.

BUT TO AT LEAST GET SOMETHING STARTED TO MAKE A PRESENTATION SO THAT THE CITY CAN SEE WHAT WE'RE DOING.

SO IT'S PUBLIC AND IT'S ALL TRANSPARENT AS TO WHAT THIS PROCESS IS ALL ABOUT AND WHAT, WHAT IT CAN DO FOR US AS FAR AS PROVIDING US WITH A IMAGE THAT GIVES US A GOOD HANDLE HOLE OF THE HOLISTIC PICTURE OF WHERE WE'RE AT, WHERE WE NEED TO GO.

AND, AND WHAT, WHAT IT DOES IS GENERATING DATA POINTS OVER TIME, PAST, PRESENT, AND FUTURE THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY TRACK SHOWING IMPROVEMENTS OF, OF HOW WE'RE GETTING TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE AND, AND, UH, AND SOLVING THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE IN HAND.

SO IT'S A, A TOOL THAT WOULD BE USED FOR SOME DECISION MAKING DOWN THE LINE IN A WAY OF TRACKING THE ACTUAL ACTIONS THAT ARE BEING DONE.

SO, UM, I THOUGHT OF IT AS A PRETTY GOOD TOOL TO USE.

THAT'S WHY I'VE BEEN ENGAGED WITH THEM.

I'VE SPENT SOME HOURS WITH THEM AND WITH OTHER FOLKS TALKING ABOUT THIS.

SO ANYWAY, SO WE'RE AT THE NEXT STEP OF, UM, UM, CAN WE, CAN WE START HAVING A PUBLIC MEETING? THIS WOULD BE MAYBE THE FIRST PLACE THAT THEY WOULD MEET.

UM, THERE MIGHT BE A COUPLE OTHERS THAT WE DO, WHETHER IT MIGHT BE, UH, THE ROUND TABLE THAT'S DONE BY COOL PETALUMA MIGHT BE ANOTHER PLACE FOR THEM TO, UH, MAKE A PRESENTATION OR WHATEVER.

BUT THERE MIGHT BE A POSSIBILITY OR SOME, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

UM, HELP, UH, HEALTH DISTRICT MAY, MAY BE ANOTHER PLACE TO DO SOMETHING, BUT IF WE CAN GET THAT OUT TO THE, UM, AS PART OF LIKE, OUR EFFORT IN THIS WHOLE GENERAL PLAN PROCESS AND OUR BLUEPRINT PROCESS, UM, I THINK IT'S, IT WOULD BE AN ADDED TOOL.

SO ANYWAY, THOUGHT I'D JUST GET YOUR FEELINGS ABOUT MAYBE, UH, BRINGING THEM THEM HERE FOR A PRESENTATION AT OUR NEXT MEETING.

SOUNDS GOOD TO ME.

SO, SO THUMBS UP PRETTY MUCH.

OKAY.

SO MAYBE PUT THAT ON HER, UH MM-HMM .

AS AN AGENDA ITEM.

WE CAN ORGANIZE THAT.

YEAH.

I'LL ALSO GIVE YOU SOME, A LITTLE BIT IF YOU WANT SOME HOMEWORK ON WHAT THE DONOR ECONOMY IS.

KATE WALWORTH IS AN ECONOMIST FROM, SHE'S FROM LONDON, ENGLAND.

UH, SHE WROTE A BOOK THAT YOU CAN DO SOME PODCAST RESEARCH TO HEAR HER EXPLAIN THE BACKGROUND BEHIND IT.

THE BOOK IS A GREAT EASY READ, EASY, MAYBE IT'S NOT THE CORRECT CORRECT WORD, BUT IT, IT'S, SHE, IT'S ENGAGING, UH, IT'S CALLED THE DONUT ECONOMICS, SEVEN WAYS TO THINK, UH, LIKE A 21ST CENTURY ECONOMIST.

UH, AND, UH, SO JUST, IT HELPED SET THE CONTEXT THAT OUT OF THAT BOOK CAME THIS WHOLE, UH, UH, DONUT LAB WORK, UH, THAT, UH, THEY DO A LOT OF AMAZING STUFF.

SO, JUST TO HELP YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT THIS CAN LOOK LIKE, I'M A BIG FAN OF THE DONUT ECONOMY AND THEIR WORKSHOPS AND THE WAY THEY DO IT.

I, I, I DON'T, I, I NEED TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT IT IS THAT THESE, THESE FOLKS ARE PROPOSING, BUT I VERY, VERY FAMILIAR WITH THEIR CONCEPT.

YEAH.

SO THEY'RE TRYING TO BRING IT DOWN TO, UM, UH, THE, A SMALL CITY OF WHAT, WHAT A SMALL CITY CAN DO IN THIS AREA.

AND SO IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE, WE CAN'T DO THINGS ON, ON THE GLOBAL SCALE.

WE, WE CAN ONLY DO THINGS ON A CITY SCALE.

SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE IT, IT'S, UH, FOCUSED IN ON SMALL CITY.

AND THIS WOULD BE THE MODEL.

SO THERE'S A, THERE'S A BENEFIT BOTH WAYS.

UH, THEY'RE BASICALLY DOING THIS WORK FOR US FOR FREE, UM, BECAUSE IT'S A, IT'S A PILOT STUDY FOR THEM, UH, TO WORK WITH A SMALL CITY.

SO, UM, AND THEY WOULD END UP, UH, USING THIS TO, UM, TAKE IT TO OTHER, OTHER CITIES AROUND THE US AND THE WORLD.

SO ANYWAY, THERE'S, THERE'S, THAT'S WHY IT'S, UM, WE'RE GETTING SOME REALLY NICE FREE SERVICE RIGHT NOW FROM THEM.

AND YOU'RE GONNA PROVIDE US WITH THE CONTACT INFORMATION

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TO YEAH, I CAN, I CAN, I, UH, I CAN TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IT AND, AND, AND HELP THESE SET THIS UP, UM, THAT WE NEED ABOUT A HALF HOUR.

OKAY.

DISCUSSION MAY GO LONGER THAN THAT, THOUGH, IF WE GET, GET THINGS ROLLING, UH, ON HOW THAT'S DONE.

THEY, BUT THEY DO THIS IN OTHER CITIES? THIS ISN'T, YEAH, THEY'VE DONE THREE LARGE CITIES, UHHUH, , UH, BUT THEY HAVEN'T DONE, DONE A SMALL CITY YET, JUST ARCHIVE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

SO THEY CAN BRING THAT AS TO WHAT THEY'VE DONE ALREADY.

UH, BOTH AT CALIFORNIA SAN JOSE WOULD BE THE TWO EXAMPLES THAT THEY COULD BRING.

AND THEN WORKING OUR WAY, WAY DOWN TO, UH, TO US, UH, WHAT, WHAT THEY COULD DO FOR, UH, WITHIN OUR CITY AND HOW IT'S COORDINATED WITH EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO.

UH, AGAIN, THAT WOULD PUT US ON A LEADERBOARD, UH, FOR, FOR THE MOVEMENT.

OKAY.

THAT'S GOOD.

SO I'LL, I'LL, I'LL WORK ON THAT IN, UH, UH, SO THOSE ARE THE TWO ITEMS I JUST WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GARDY.

OKAY.

OH, SORRY.

ONE MORE THING.

IT IS, EVERYONE NOTICED THAT IT WAS BIKE TO WORKDAY OR BIKE EVERY DAY TODAY.

WE FORGOT TO MENTION THAT.

, WE WERE GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT IN STAFF COMMENTS.

AND, UH, YEAH, SOME OF US STILL HAVE TO BIKE HOME AFTER THIS TOO.

.

YEAH.

UH, THAT'S, THAT'S RIGHT.

SORRY, I COULDN'T, UH, HELP YOU OUT, DEB, THIS MORNING ON THAT, UH, JUST WANTED TO, UH, EXPRESS A LOT OF GRATITUDE.

UH, TODAY WILL BE MY LAST COMMISSION MEETING, UNLESS FOR SOMEHOW SOME MIRACLE, WE END UP HAVING ONE IN JUNE.

UH, THIS IS THE END OF MY TERM.

AND SO, UH, IT'S BEEN AN HONOR AND A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH YOU ALL.

I'M SORRY, UH, NEW MEMBERS, UH, YOU KNOW, HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO WORK AS MUCH, BUT, UH, HAPPY TO PASS ON THE BATON AND I WISH YOU ALL LUCK IN YOUR ENDEAVOR AND THE MOST IMPORTANT PROBLEM TO SOLVE IN THE ENTIRE WORLD.

SO, , UH, I'M SURE YOU'LL DO GREAT.

I, MY, UH, MY CAREER, UH, YOU KNOW, MY DAY JOB AT IS, UH, I'M WORKING ON THE EQUITABLE BUILDING DECARBONIZATION PROGRAM WHERE WE ARE JUST GOING TO DIRECT INSTALL, JUST NO COST, UH, ELECTRIFICATION FOR, UH, UH, LOW INCOME AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AND SO WE HAVE OUR DISPERSE SITE ASSESSMENT NEXT FRIDAY.

SO I HAVE TO BE ON SITE FOR THAT.

AND IT IS VERY INVOLVED.

AND SO I DECIDED NOT TO REAPPLY TO THIS, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, MAG MAGNIFICENT AND OS AUSTERE BODY.

UH, BUT I'M REALLY EXCITED FOR THE WORK THAT THE STATE IS DOING THROUGH THIS.

UH, WE CALL THE EBD PROGRAM, AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO BE ELECTRIFYING HOMES LEFT AND RIGHT.

SO IT'S A REALLY EXCITING, UH, DEVELOPMENT AND THE STATE REALLY IS, UM, PUTTING SOME REAL FIRE POWERS AND REAL MONEY INTO THAT PROGRAM.

SO I, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT IT, UH, HOW THAT, HOW IT WORKS AND WHAT IT WILL DO, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT IN GENERAL, IF YOU WANNA STAY IN TOUCH, I AM MORE THAN HAPPY TO, UH, YOU KNOW, CHAT OVER COFFEE OR BEER OR WHATEVER.

AND I LOOK FORWARD TO STAYING INVOLVED WITH THE CITY, UH, AS A PROUD RECIPIENT OF A RELIEF TREE.

YOU KNOW, MIGHT SEE ME AT SOME PLANTINGS OR A RIVER CLEANUP OR HARANGUING A LOCAL COUNCIL MEMBER, YOU KNOW, ON THE STREET.

SO, UH, CAN'T GET RID OF ME THAT EASILY.

UH, AGAIN, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.

IT'S BEEN A, IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE.

SO, UH, YEAH, APPRECIATE IT.

AND I'LL SAY THANKS COMMISSIONER GARDY FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY, AND IT'S EXCITING THAT YOU'RE GOING OFF TO DO SERVICE FOR OTHER COMMUNITIES THROUGH ELECTRIFICATION.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ECHO THE SENTIMENT THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER GARDY EXPRESSED.

SO THIS IS ALSO MY LAST TERM AS A YOUTH COMMISSIONER, AND IT'S BEEN AN HONOR TO BE ON THIS COMMISSION, AND IT'S REALLY AMAZING TO SEE EVERYTHING THAT YOU ALL AND THE CITY IS TRYING TO DO TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM.

SO, I, I LEARNED A LOT, AND IT WAS A REALLY INSIGHTFUL EXPERIENCE TO BE ON THIS COMMISSION.

SO JUST WANTED TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR THAT.

WELL, WE HAVE BEEN HONORED TO HAVE YOU ON THIS COMMISSION.

YOU HAVE BEEN A DELIGHTFUL ADDITION, AND WE LOVED HEARING YOUR FEEDBACK, SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND FOR YOUR SERVICE.

YEAH.

AM NOT SAYING GOODBYE .

UM, WANTED TO ADD ONE ADDITIONAL COMMENT, WHICH IS THAT FOLKS HAVE ABOUT TWO WEEKS LEFT IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN GOING TO THE HISTORICAL MUSEUM, UM, TO THE TIME AND TIDE EXHIBIT, WHICH FEATURES THE HISTORY OF THE PETALUMA RIVER AND ALSO FUTURE PLANS.

UH, WE TALK A LOT ABOUT CLIMATE MITIGATION ACTIVITIES, UM, ON THIS COMMISSION, BUT CLIMATE RESILIENCE IS, UH, EQUALLY AS IMPORTANT OR

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MAYBE NOT EQUALLY AS IDEALLY WE'D MITIGATE.

SO RESILIENCE ISN'T NECESSARY, BUT, UM, THE PETALUMA RIVER AND THE WETLANDS THERE ARE GONNA BE A KEY RESILIENCE RESOURCE FOR OUR COMMUNITY IN THE FUTURE.

SO MAKE SURE TO CHECK THAT OUT IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.

THANK YOU.

SO, I, UH, WAS PRIVILEGED TO BE ABLE TO DO THE EV PORTION OF THE FUTURE FEST, AND WE HAD, UH, THREE EVS THERE, AND WE WERE THE, UH, NORTH BAY ELECTRIC VEHICLE CLUB.

AND, UH, WE HAD SOME REALLY GOOD CONVERSATIONS WITH FOLKS.

THERE'S DEFINITELY SOME, SOME INTEREST OUT THERE.

SO WE WERE, UH, PITCHING THEM ON USED EVS, SO DID THAT.

AND I WAS ALSO VOLUNTEERED TO HELP WITH THE BIKE TO WORKDAY, WHICH THEY'LL TALK ABOUT SHORTLY.

UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT THERE IS A ITEM ON THE BALLOT FOR THE SMART TRAIN, AND, UH, THIS IS THE THIRD TIME, AND THE THIRD TIME IS THE CHARM, AND THEY'VE LOWERED THE THRESHOLD, SO WE ONLY NEED 50% OF THE VOTE TO, IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO PASS IT SO THAT WE CAN RENEW OUR, UM, SMART TRAIN FUNDING.

UM, AND SO WE ARE, AS THE LUMINATORS ARE SORT OF LIKE, LIKE SLOW ROLL FOR OUR FIRST CAMPAIGN IS TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO RIDE THE SMART TRAIN.

SO I'D LIKE TO ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY HERE TO RIDE THE SMART TRAIN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TIME.

AWESOME.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER COMMENTS? UH, THEN WE'RE

[STAFF COMMENT]

MOVING ON TO STAFF COMMENT.

DURING STAFF COMMENT, STAFF WILL PROVIDE BRIEF UPDATES RELEVANT TO THIS COMMISSION.

DIALOGUE BETWEEN MEMBERS AND STAFF SHOULD BE LIMITED TO CLARIFYING QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS.

THERE SHOULD BE NO DIALOGUE BETWEEN MEMBERS.

THERE WILL BE NO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.

THANK YOU.

I'LL START OFF AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DEB.

UM, I MEAN, I THINK FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE'D BE REMISS IF, IF WE DIDN'T THANK THE COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE LEAVING US, UM, FOR THEIR SERVICE.

IT'S, I THINK, UH, ILLUMINATING TO SEE, UH, THINGS FROM THE INSIDE.

I THINK IT CHANGES PERSPECTIVES AND, UM, AND IT REALLY IS JUST, IT'S ALL ABOUT PUBLIC SERVICE AND IT'S A, A COMMITMENT AND IT'S, UH, IT'S, IT'S TIME THAT YOU COULD BE DOING OTHER THINGS, BUT YOU'VE CHOSEN TO BE HERE, UM, TALKING ABOUT IMPORTANT ISSUES, AND THERE'S JUST A TON OF GR GRATITUDE FROM STAFF FOR THE COMMITMENT THAT THAT YOU'VE DONE AND THE TIME THAT YOU PUT IN AND JUST CAN'T EXPRESS HOW HAPPY WE ARE, UM, THAT YOU CHOSE TO, TO DO THIS AND, UM, SERVE THE PUBLIC IN THAT ROLE.

SO JUST HEARTFELT GRATITUDE, UM, FOR, FOR YOUR SERVICE AND FOR ALL OF YOU THAT ARE STAYING WITH US, THAT GRATITUDE IS STILL THERE, BUT THIS IS, UM, OUR CHANCE TO EXPRESS THAT GRATITUDE FOR THOSE THAT ARE LEAVING.

UM, WHICH ALSO INCLUDES, UM, COMMISSIONER THORS, UM, WHO'S OUR OTHER YOUTH MEMBER, UM, THAT, UM, WON'T BE, UH, BACK.

SO THANK YOU ALL.

REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I KNOW DEB, UM, HAS SOME THINGS THAT SHE WANTS TO SAY ON, ON FUTURE FEST AND BIKE TO WORK, AND I'LL, I'LL TAG ON I THINK ON THE END OF THAT.

YEAH.

UM, SINCE WE SAW YOU LAST, WE, UH, OUT FRONT WHEN YOU CAME, EN ENTERED, UH, 500 PLANTS WERE PLANTED ON EARTH DAY.

UH, WE HAD AN AMAZING TURNOUT.

WE HAD STUDENTS FROM SPRING HILL WANDER DOWN.

UH, THEY PARTICIPATED THE WHOLE TIME.

WE ACTUALLY FINISHED AN HOUR AND A HALF EARLY BECAUSE WE HAD SO MANY PARTICIPANTS, UH, THAT WAS DONE, UH, WITH THE AMAZING, UH, LEADERSHIP OF, OF DAILY ACTS.

UH, WE HAD SOME LOCAL BUSINESSES COME AND HELP, UH, ONE BUSINESS ACTUALLY CLOSED, UH, AND, OR, OR DIDN'T OPEN, I SHOULD SAY.

UH, AND UNTIL THEY, THEIR STAFF CAME AND PARTICIPATED IN THE DAY.

SO, UH, THAT WAS A REALLY GREAT THING.

AND THEN TO SEE THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA POST ABOUT IT WAS JUST PRICELESS.

UM, THE STUDENTS HAD A BLAST.

WE HAD CITY STAFF PARTICIPATING.

UH, AND, UH, IT IS, IT WORKED OUR, AS WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF RAINS SINCE THEN.

THE RAIN GARDEN FILLED UP AND THE PLANTS SUCKED IT UP.

AND IT, IT IS AMAZING.

IT IS, UM, UH, GREAT TO HAVE THAT DONE.

THERE'LL BE SIGNAGE STILL TO COME AND A PICNIC BENCH AND A, AN ACTUAL SITTING BENCH OUT THERE AS WELL.

SO IT'S KIND OF A, A, A MODEL OF NON-FUNCTIONAL TURF, UH, WHICH IS A LAW THAT IS COMING INTO EFFECT, OR IT'S, AND IT'S THE END OF THIS YEAR.

CITIES HAVE TO DO IT ALL MAJOR CORPORATIONS, UH, SCHOOLS, ALL THE PLACES THAT CANNOT, THAT ARE CONSIDERED NON-FUNCTIONAL, CAN'T BE WATERED ANYMORE BY POTABLE WATER.

UH, AND SO IT'S, IT'S SORT OF AN EXAMPLE OF THAT.

I SAY THAT BECAUSE THERE'S ALREADY BEEN CONVERTED PRIOR TO THAT, BUT THAT IS WHAT IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT A SCHOOL, A BUSINESS CAN DO ON A, UH, UH, A TURF LIKE THAT.

UM,

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FUTURE FEST, AS YOU ALL KNOW, DID HAPPEN.

IT WAS A GREAT SUCCESS.

WE, UM, THEY ESTIMATED ABOUT 700 ATTENDEES AGAIN.

UH, AND, UH, SO THANK YOU, UH, COUNCILMAN TRIBS FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, AND DAN, FOR HAVING ALL THE CARS OUT THERE AND FOR ALL OF YOU THAT WERE, UH, EXHIBITING OR PARTICIPATING.

IT WAS A REALLY, MY, MY FAVORITE PART OF THE DAY.

UM, I MEAN, NO DISRESPECT TO ALL OF YOU THAT DID, UM, WHAT YOU DID FOR THE DAY, BUT THE STUDENT ROOM WAS OUT OF THIS WORLD.

THERE WERE PROJECTS OF, UH, ICE CORE STUDENTS LEARNING ABOUT HOW TO READ ABOUT CARBON SEQUESTRATION IN ICE CORES.

THERE WAS, UH, THE NEWT PROJECT HAPPENING, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT WE ACTUALLY, UM, UH, HAVE A NEWT THAT IS, UH, THEY'RE DOING RESEARCH TO ACTUALLY RAISE THE ROAD BECAUSE THAT SO MANY NEWTS GET KILLED EVERY SEASON WHEN IT'S RAINING.

THEY MOVE FROM THE HILLSIDE TO THE LAKE.

AND THIS IS OUT IN CHILENO VALLEY.

UH, THE STUDENTS STUDIED IT.

THEY LEARNED HOW TO BUILD, UM, OVER ROAD CROSSINGS, UH, TO BASICALLY LIFT THE ROAD AND ALLOW THE NEWTS TO GO UNDER BECAUSE THEY JUST, WHEN IT RAINS, I USED TO BE A VOLUNTEER FOR THIS, WHEN IT RAINS, HUNDREDS OF THEM ARE KILLED WHEN A CAR GOES THROUGH.

AND SO THEY HAVE, IT'S CITIZEN SCIENCE HAS BEEN COLLECTING THE, THE NEWTS, UH, HELPING THEM CROSS, FIGURING OUT HOW MANY DIE EACH TIME A CAR GOES THROUGH.

'CAUSE YOU CAN'T BE ON THE ROAD WHEN A CAR GOES.

SO ANYWAYS, THESE KIDS LEARNED ABOUT ALL OF THAT.

THEY GAVE PRESENTATIONS AND, UH, SOLUTIONS.

IT WAS PRICELESS, THE VARIETY OF PROJECTS.

UM, ONE OF THE STUDENTS, UH, THAT WAS THERE PRESENTED ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE THAT THE CITY HAS ALSO JUST ACCOMPLISHED.

HERE AT CITY HALL, WE ARE OFFICIALLY A GREEN BUSINESS CERTIFIED AS A GREEN BUSINESS, UH, JUST FOR CITY HALL.

WE MODELED.

WE BASICALLY, IT WAS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT WAS GONNA TAKE TO, TO DO ALL THE FACILITIES.

UM, WE LEARNED SOME GREAT THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO HERE IN CITY HALL THAT ARE, WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO SPREAD, UH, HERE AND THEN ALSO TO THE OTHER, UM, BUILDINGS EVENTUALLY.

SO, UH, THAT HAPPENED LAST WEEK.

ON TUESDAY, WE CELEBRATED IT SEVEN.

SO THE, THE, UH, GREEN BUSINESS GROUP IS, WAS DONE WITH GU PETALUMA, UH, AND THEY SET A GOAL.

THERE WERE ONLY NINE BUSINESSES IN THE CITY THAT WERE CERTIFIED.

THE GOAL WAS TO DOUBLE THAT NUMBER.

SO THEY WERE JUST WANTED TO JUST GET NINE MORE.

WE GOT 17 BUSINESSES, UH, AND IT WAS AMAZING.

ONE OF THE BUSINESSES IS A, UH, A JUICE BAR OVER BY CAFE PUENTE.

AND THROUGH THE PROCESS, SHE LEARNED THAT SHE HAD ALL THIS PULP.

SHE GETS 65 POUNDS OF PULP NOW GOING OUT TO FEED, UH, AS FEED FOR A FARM OUTSIDE OF TOWN.

LIKE, THESE ARE SOME OF THE ELEMENTS THAT HAVE GROWN OUT OF THIS PROCESS.

UM, SO THAT WAS REALLY EXCITING, UM, TO HAVE THAT CELEBRATION HAPPEN ON, UH, LAST TUESDAY.

UM, UH, OH, I WAS GONNA SHARE WITH YOU AN ITEM.

OH, I ALREADY TOOK IT OFF THE WEBSITE.

ONE THING THAT DID GET FINISHED BY THE WEBSITE WAS, OR BY THE FUTURE FEST, WAS THE WEBSITE.

KIM, ONE OF YOU, I ALREADY LOGGED OUT OF ZOOM.

I'M, I'M OUT ALSO.

UH, MORGAN, ARE YOU STILL IN ZOOM BY CHANCE? UM, I'LL TRY TO GET IT PULLED UP BEFORE I FINISH.

UM, UH, BIKE TO WORK DAY, UH, WAS TODAY, UH, WE HAD, UH, THERE WERE THREE BIKE TO WORK STATIONS, UM, UH, ENERGIZER STATIONS.

THE CITY HOSTED THE ONE AT THE PEDAL NORTH, WHICH IS ONLY THE SECOND YEAR THAT WE'VE HAD IT THERE, BECAUSE THAT'S ONLY THE SECOND YEAR THAT THIS, THE, UH, IT'S BEEN OPEN.

UH, WE INCREASED OUR NUMBERS BY, UH, 50%, UH, OF PARTICIPANTS THAT WENT THROUGH THERE.

FROM THIS YEAR TO LAST YEAR.

UH, PROVIDENCE DID LAST YEAR WE HAD A, ANOTHER ONE AT LUKE CASEY.

BUT THIS YEAR, PROVIDENCE, UH, HOSTED THAT ONE, WHICH THEY USED TO DO.

AND THEY ARE NOW BACK IN, UH, WANTING TO HELP ON THAT.

AND, UH, THE DOWNTOWN IS DONE BY SAFE STREETS, PETALUMA, UH, AND THEY ALSO, OH, I ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE THEIR NUMBERS, BUT IN TOTAL, UH, WE HAD 63 RIDERS GOING THROUGH THAT STOPPED TO GET BAGS.

EVERYONE WE DO HAND TALLIES, UH, AND 68 RIDERS PASSED THROUGH.

SO IT SEEMS TO BE A SUCCESSFUL YEAR THIS YEAR FOR, UH, UH, BIKE TO SCHOOL OR BIKE TO WORK DAY.

LIKE TO ANYWHERE.

THERE STILL IS A BIKE CHALLENGE THAT HAPPENS THE WHOLE MONTH.

IT'S ACTUALLY A WHOLE MONTH.

SO IF YOU, UH, THEN THE IDEA IS THAT WHEN YOU'RE A PART OF A CHALLENGE, YOU ARE MORE LIKELY TO DO IT WITH SOMEONE.

UH, SO, UH, UH, IT'S STILL OPEN AND AVAILABLE.

I HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT.

IT'S THE SAME THING OF JUST RIDE IT, TRY IT.

ONCE YOU, ONCE YOU GET TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET YOUR BIKE HELMET TOGETHER AND YOUR BIKE ALL PUMPED UP, YOU'RE MORE LIKELY TO KEEP DOING IT 'CAUSE YOU REALIZE HOW MUCH FUN IT IS.

UM, AND SO, UH, SAME THING GOES FOR SMART.

TRY IT ONCE IF YOU HAVEN'T YET, AS A WAY TO GET TO AND FROM WHEREVER YOU NEED TO GO.

UM, AND I'LL JUST GIVE A PLUG FOR OUR BUSES IN LUMA GO.

THE SAME THING.

UM, THEN THE LAST THING I JUST WANTED TO SHARE IS THAT AS, UH, UH,

[01:30:01]

AMY MENTIONED THE ROUND TABLE IS, UH, THURSDAY THE 28TH AT NOON.

UH, AND YOU'LL BE SEEING THIS PRESENTATION, WE'RE GONNA WORKSHOP THIS PRESENTATION THAT THE, UH, COMMUNICATIONS TEAM DID.

AND I'LL JUST ADD ONE MORE ELSE IN THERE.

NEXT THURSDAY, A WEEK FROM, UH, TODAY THE CCB APPLICATIONS CLOSE.

AND SO WE DO HAVE SOME APPLICATIONS, BUT I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU THINK OF AT LEAST ONE PERSON TO SEND THE APPLICATION TO BECAUSE WE DO HAVE POSITIONS OPEN.

I HAVE BEEN, UH, ACTIVELY TRYING TO RECRUIT SOME YOUTH THAT HAVE BEEN ACTIVE IN, UH, THE VARIOUS THINGS THAT I'M INVOLVED IN.

AND SO FAR WE DON'T HAVE ANY YOUTH APPLICANTS.

SO IF YOU DO KNOW OF A STUDENT THAT IS, UH, HIGH QUALITY, WOULD BE INTERESTED IN DOING THIS, UH, DO PASS IT ALONG.

UM, AND I'LL END THAT THERE.

AND THEN MAYBE BY THE TIME PATRICK GETS HIS COMMENTS FINISHED, I WILL HAVE THE WEBSITE AND EVERYTHING UP THAT I WANTED TO SHOW YOU GUYS.

MINE ARE PRETTY SHORT, BUT, UM, I WAS GONNA TAG ONTO THE, YOU WENT SO FAST FROM, UH, FUTURE FEST.

WE DID THE PURPLE CUPS THERE.

UM, ABOUT 70 PURPLE CUPS GOT REUSED THERE.

ASKED ME HOW I KNOW.

'CAUSE I WASHED THEM.

UM, , I WAS, I WAS THE WASHER FOR THEM, SO THAT WAS NICE.

UM, AND THEN WE HAD, UH, NOT WE, BUT COOL PETALUMA ORGANIZED IT AND THEY HAD VOLUNTEERS THAT, UM, WERE AT THE WASTE STATION AND AS A RESULT, LIKE THERE WAS MAYBE HALF FULL GARBAGE AND WE EMPTIED THE COMPOST BIN AT LEAST TWICE.

SO HAVING SOMEBODY THERE, NOT JUDGING, BUT TELLING PEOPLE WHERE TO PUT STUFF, UM, WAS REALLY HELPFUL, UM, AND EFFECTIVE.

AND THAT WAS JUST A, A GREAT EXAMPLE.

THAT'D BE GREAT TO SCALE UP.

UM, AND THEN ALSO THE OTHER THING I WAS GONNA MENTION IS, UH, DEB, DAN AND I, UM, WERE AT THE PELOMA NORTH STATION THIS MORNING FOR THE BIKE TO WORK DAY, UH, BIKE TO EVERYWHERE DAY.

UM, AND IT WAS, YEAH, WE HAD SOME GOOD REPRESENTATION COMING THROUGH THERE.

UH, TEAM OF SEVEN OF OUR, UM, FOLKS THAT WORK OUT AT ELLIS CREEK, SOME OF 'EM COME ALL THE WAY FROM SANTA ROSA.

UM, STOP BY TO SAY HI THERE.

UM, SO GOOD REPRESENTATION, UM, FROM THE PETALUMA TEAM, UM, DOING IT.

AND EVERYBODY WAS ALL SMILES AND HAD A GREAT TIME.

UM, THAT WAS A COMMON THEME FOR MOST OF THE PEOPLE WE SAW THERE.

UM, WERE VERY HAPPY TO BE ON THEIR BIKE AND HAPPY TO TALK.

SO IT'S ABOUT SPREADING THOSE GOOD EXPERIENCES, SHOWING PEOPLE THAT IT CAN BE DONE AND HOPING THAT THAT BEHAVIOR KINDA SPREADS FROM THERE.

SO, EXCELLENT.

YEAH, THANK YOU.

AND AGAIN, THANK YOU DAN FOR, UH, COMING OUT AND HELPING US OUT THERE.

UM, I DID WANNA JUST SHARE REALLY QUICKLY, AND IT'S ANOTHER ITEM TO JUST SHARE AROUND, UM, THIS IS OUR MAIN PAGE OF THE CITY.

UH, IF YOU SCROLL DOWN, UH, THE CLIMATE READY PAGE IS HERE, AS ARE ALL OF, UH, UH, CLIMATE EVENTS THAT ARE UPCOMING.

UH, AND I'LL SHOW YOU A MORE DETAILED, UH, CALENDAR OF THIS, BUT THIS WAS THE PAGE THAT WE HAD READY BY THE TIME FUTURE FEST HAPPENED.

WHAT THE CITY IS DOING IS WHAT, UM, WHEN YOU CLICK ON THIS PAGE, THIS IS WHAT THE PAGE USED TO HAVE, WHICH IT JUST MOVED OVER TO WHAT THE CITY IS DOING IS ALL THE THINGS THAT THE CITY IS DOING, UH, AND GETTING UPDATED ON A REGULAR BASIS AS THINGS, UH, PASS.

UH, BUT THAT IS WHERE YOU, EVERYONE CAN FIND OUT WHAT THE CITY IS UP TO.

UH, THIS IS WHAT THE PUBLIC CAN DO.

OH, AND I NEED TO UPDATE.

UH, USUALLY, UH, I WOULD HAVE THAT EVERY WEEK, BUT I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO DO THIS WEEK.

UM, BUT HERE ARE THE THINGS THAT, UH, RESIDENTS CAN DO, UH, AND BUSINESSES TO INCLUDE HIGHLIGHTING THAT GREEN BUSINESS CERTIFICATION.

UH, SO ALL OF THIS HAS BEEN BUILT OUT AND KEEP, CAN KEEP GETTING ADDED TO FOR SCHOOLS.

PETALUMA CITY SCHOOLS IS THE ONLY SCHOOL THAT HAS, UH, SOMETHING, SO IT CLICKS DIRECTLY TO THEIRS, UH, BUT THEIR ENVIRONMENTAL LITERACY AND CLIMATE ACTION PAGE AND ALL OF THE RESOURCES THAT THEY HAVE.

UM, AND SCROLLING BACK TO THAT PAGE, THERE IS A CALENDAR ON HERE OF EVENTS.

UH, AND WHAT'S SO FUN AND FASCINATING FOR ME, SPEAKING TO THIS COORDINATED, UH, CLIMATE ACTION CAMPAIGN, YOU START TO SEE HOW MUCH STUFF IS ON ONE DAY, AND THEN WHEN PEOPLE WONDER WHY THERE'S LESS TURNOUT, BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY THINGS FOR PEOPLE TO CHOOSE, THE GOAL IS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE PEOPLE REALLY SEE, UH, FOR OURSELVES AS ORGANIZERS OF EVENTS, UH, ALL THE

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CLIMATE ACTION THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING ON A GIVEN DAY.

UM, AND SO THIS IS ALL PART OF THE COORDINATING AND SHARING OUT, UH, INFORMATION TO OUR PUBLIC.

UH, AN IMPORTANT ELEMENT IS THAT WE NEED PEOPLE TO KNOW THIS IS HERE SO THAT THEY KNOW TO GO FIND IT.

UH, AND UH, AND THAT GOES FOR ALL OF YOU TO JUST TO SHARE WHEN YOU TALK TO ANYONE ABOUT THE FACT THAT THERE IS A PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO FIND OUT ABOUT CLIMATE ACTION AND WHAT THEY CAN DO, UH, IS ON HERE AND THERE'S BUSINESS STUFF ON HERE AND, UM, RESIDENTIAL STUFF ON HERE BASED ON ITEMS THAT I KNOW OF THAT ARE HAPPENING.

SO IF YOU HEAR OF THINGS THAT AREN'T ON THERE, UH, SEND ME A NOTE.

IT DOES NEED TO HAVE, WE DO HAVE SOME CRITERIA ABOUT WHAT CAN GO ON HERE.

UM, BUT IF YOU DO HEAR OF THINGS FORWARD, THINGS ALONG, I'LL LET YOU KNOW IF IT CAN GO ON THERE.

ONE THING WE NEGLECTED TO MENTION IS WE ATTENDED THE ZERO WASTE SYMPOSIUM LAST WEEK.

OH, YES, EXACTLY.

GOOD ONE.

THAT WAS LAST, UH, THURSDAY.

GREAT.

SOLD OUT EVENT, UH, UP AT, UH, IN ROANOKE PARK.

YEAH.

SELLING TOMATOES.

THANK YOU FOR THAT REMINDER.

ALL RIGHT, THAT'S IT.

I'M DONE.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

ANY, UM, OTHER CLARIFYING QUESTIONS FOR STAFF IN THAT CASE? WE ARE ADJOURNED AT WHAT TIME IS IT? 7:38 PM.