May 18, 2026 City Council

AND DOWN THE DIOCESE AND SEE IF ANY COUNCIL MEMBER WISHES TO CHANGE THE ORDER OF ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.

AT THIS TIME, I LOOK UP

[AGENDA CHANGES AND DELETIONS (TO CURRENT AGENDA ONLY)]

AND SEEING, UH, NONE WILL BUY A CLAIM.

ADOPT THIS AGENDA THAT YOU SEE IN YOUR HANDS OUT THERE AND MOVE TO ONE OF MY

[PROCLAMATIONS]

FAVORITE PARTS, WHICH IS PROCLAMATION.

AND, UH, THIS IS NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK.

AND SO I'D LIKE TO INVITE OUR DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS, PAUL KAL, TO THE PODIUM WHILE WE READ NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK, MAY 17, 23 OF 2026, AND THE WHOLE TEAM.

AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF PETALUMA PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT STAFF SERVES THE COMMUNITY WITH DEDICATION, PROFESSIONALISM, AND INTEGRITY.

AND WHEREAS PUBLIC WORKS PROFESSIONALS FOCUS ON INFRASTRUCTURE, FACILITY AND SERVICES THAT ARE OF IMPORTANT, VITAL IMPORTANCE TO SUB SUSTAINABLE AND RESILIENT COMMUNITIES AND TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH, HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE AND WELLBEING OF THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY OF PETALUMA.

AND WHEREAS THE THEME FOR 2026 NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK IS ROOTED IN SERVICE POWERED BY COMMUNITY.

AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF PETALUMA PUBLIC WORKS STAFF HELPS IMPROVE THE COUNT COMMUNITY'S STRENGTH AND QUALITY OF LIFE BY WORKING TOGETHER TO MAINTAIN AND OPERATE CITY STREETS, SIDEWALKS, TRAFFIC SIGNALS, AND STREET LIGHTS TO PLAN AND IMPLEMENT SAFE STREETS AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS TO REVIEW AND OVERSEE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH NEW DEVELOPMENT TO MANAGE THE PETALUMA MARINA AND AIRPORT, AND TO DELIVER PUBLIC TRANSIT AND MOBILITY PROGRAMS. AND WHEREAS AS PART OF OUR ONE PETALUMA TEAM ENGAGE COLLABORATIVELY AND ENTHUSIASTICALLY WITH ALL STAKEHOLDERS IN CAPITAL PROJECTS, INFRASTRUCTURE SOLUTIONS, AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE SERVICES.

AND WHEREAS THE SUPPORT OF AN UNDERSTANDING AND INFORMED COMMUNITY IS VITAL TO THE EFFECTIVE OPERATION OF PUBLIC WORK SYSTEMS AND PROGRAMS. AND WHEREAS THEIR SERVICE IS STEADFAST DURING EMERGENCIES, PANDEMICS, DROUGHTS, AND STORMS, AND SUPPORTS OUR CITY'S COLLECTIVE ADAPTABILITY TO ADDRESS THE CLIMATE CRISIS.

AND WHEREAS THEIR COMMITMENT AND PASSION FOR THE WORK THEY DO AND THE COMMUNITY THEY SERVE IS PROFOUND WITH THEIR IMPACT RESONATING IN EVERY CORNER OF OUR LIVES.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT I, KEVIN MCDONALD, MAYOR OF PETALUMA, ALONG WITH ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE PETALUMA CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE WEEK OF MAY 17TH TO 23RD, 2026 AS NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK IN THE CITY OF PETALUMA, AND CALL UPON ALL CITIZENS AND CIVIC ORGANIZATIONS TO ACQUAINT THEMSELVES WITH OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AND TO APPRECIATE THE VITAL ROLE PLAYED BY THESE IMPORTANT PUBLIC WORKS PROFESSIONALS IN SHAPING OUR COLLECTIVE FUTURE AND IN CONTRIBUTING EVERY DAY TO OUR HEALTH, SAFETY, COMFORT, AND QUALITY OF LIFE.

THANK YOU ALL.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL AND COMMUNITY.

UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS RECOGNITION AND THE PROCLAMATION.

UM, MY NAME IS PAUL KOWELL.

I'M THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS, UM, JOINED HERE BY SOME OF OUR, UH, PUBLIC WORKS LEADERSHIP TEAM.

UM, AND IT'S OUR HONOR TO RECEIVE THIS ON BEHALF OF OUR HARDWORKING AND DEDICATED PUBLIC WORKS STAFF.

UH, I WANTED TO TOUCH ON TWO THINGS, UM, IN HONOR OF PUBLIC WORKS WEEK.

UH,

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FIRST I WANTED TO, UM, UH, TOUCH ON THE THIS YEAR'S THEME, WHICH THE MAYOR MENTIONED A MOMENT AGO.

UM, EACH YEAR THE AMERICAN PUBLIC WORKS ASSOCIATION DEVELOPS A THEME FOR NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK, UM, AND I WANTED TO READ FROM THAT BECAUSE IT RESONATES AND IT SPEAKS TO WHAT WE'RE ABOUT HERE IN PETALUMA.

SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ FROM PART OF IT.

THIS YEAR'S THEME, ROOTED IN SERVICE POWERED BY COMMUNITY, ACKNOWLEDGES THAT THE ROOTS OF SERVICE RUN DEEP IN PUBLIC WORKS.

IT'S WHAT HAS PROPELLED PUBLIC WORKS INNOVATIONS THAT HAVE HELPED OUR COMMUNITIES EVOLVE INTO PLACES WHERE PEOPLE CAN LEAD LIVES OF PURPOSE AND POSSIBILITY.

SOME WORK LIKE BUILDING ROADS AND BRIDGES IS HIGHLY VISIBLE WHILE OTHER PUBLIC WORKS CONTRIBUTIONS ARE SOMETIMES HIDDEN FROM VIEW.

TOGETHER, THESE EFFORTS FORM THE FOUNDATION OF THRIVING COMMUNITIES, REMINDING US THAT EVERY PROJECT SEEN OR UNSEEN POWERS THE CONNECTION BETWEEN SERVICE AND THE PEOPLE IT SUPPORTS.

AND SECOND, I WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE OUR FRIENDS AND COLLEAGUES IN THE WATER RESOURCES AND UTILITIES DEPARTMENT.

UH, OUR WORK IS, UH, SIMILAR IN MANY WAYS, AND IT'S INTERTWINED, RIGHT? AND WE CAN'T PERFORM OUR WORK EFFECTIVELY WITHOUT THEM.

SO WHILE WE'RE ACCEPTING THIS ON BEHALF OF PUBLIC WORKS, WE ALSO SHARE IT WITH OUR FRIENDS IN WATER RESOURCES AND UTILITIES.

NEXT WE HAVE, UM, OUR EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES WEEK, AND I LIKE TO INVITE, UM, MELISSA LEON, OUR EMS COORDINATOR TO THE PODIUM TO ACCEPT, UM, AND ARE YOU BRINGING THE TEAM WHO WANTS TO COME? ? THANK YOU.

AND THIS IS EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES WEEK, MAY 17TH OF 23, 2026, WHERE WHEREAS EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES ARE A VITAL PUBLIC SERVICE PROVIDING LIFESAVING CARE TO THOSE IN NEED 24 HOURS A DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK AT A MOMENT'S NOTICE.

AND WHEREAS ACCESS TO QUALITY EMERGENCY CARE DRAMATICALLY IMPROVES THE SURVIVAL AND RECOVERY RATE OF THOSE WHO EXPERIENCE SUDDEN ILLNESS OR INJURY.

WHEREAS THE PETALUMA FIRE DEPARTMENT PROVIDES FIRST RESPONDER EMS CARE, AS WELL AS THE CONTINUED TREATMENT AND TRANSPORT OF THE SICK AND INJURED BY BASIC AND ADVANCED LIFE-SAVING SUPPORT AMBULANCES STAFFED WITH CROSS-TRAINED FIREFIGHTERS, EMTS AND PARAMEDICS.

AND WHEREAS MEMBERS OF THE DEPARTMENT PROVIDE EXEMPLARY CARE IN THE FACE OF HAZARDS, PERSONAL SACRIFICE, AND PROFOUND RESPONSIBILITIES TO SERVE THEIR COMMUNITIES.

AND WHEREAS EACH MAY, THERE IS A NATIONAL RECOGNITION OF EMS WORKERS WITH THE THEME OF THIS YEAR'S EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES WEEK BEING IMPROVED OUTCOMES TOGETHER.

AND WHEREAS ALL PAST, PRESENT, AND FUTURE PETALUMA FIRE DEPARTMENT EMS PROVIDERS ARE RECOGNIZING APPRECIATED FOR THEIR CONTINUED DEDICATION AND SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY.

NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT I, KEVIN MCDONALD, MAYOR OF PETALUMA, ALONG WITH ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE PETALUMA CITY COUNCIL, IN RECOGNITION OF THE PEOPLE WHO PROVIDE THIS VITAL CARE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM MAY 17TH TO 23RD, 2026 AS EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES, WEAK IN THE CITY OF PETALUMA, AND URGE ALL RESIDENTS TO SUPPORT THE PUBLIC SAFETY ACTIVITIES AND EFFORTS OF PETALUMA'S FIRST RESPONDERS.

SO I'LL BE BRIEF BECAUSE WE BARELY GOT THESE FOLKS HERE IN TIME TODAY.

UM, BUT IT'S MY HONOR TO ACCEPT THIS ON BEHALF OF ALL THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO COMMIT THEIR LIVES TO CARING FOR OTHERS AT A MOMENT'S NOTICE, THEY'RE THERE TO ANSWER THE CALL EVERY MINUTE OF EVERY DAY, SACRIFICING THEIR OWN TIME TO DO SO.

THEY PUT SERVICE ABOVE SELF AND SERVE OUR COMMUNITY PROUDLY.

THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING ALL THAT THEY DO AND FOR ACKNOWLEDGING THEIR SELFLESS SERVICE TO OTHERS.

FIRE RECOVERY, AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF PETALUMA'S HOUSING ACTION PLAN SUPPORTS THE CONSTRUCTION OF, UM, 1,910 AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS OVER EIGHT YEARS.

THIS SHOULD BE THE COMMUNITY AWARDS NIGHT HERE.

UH, THERE'S SO MANY GOOD WAYS TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY, AND I APPRECIATE MEETING AND SEEING ALL, INCLUDING OUR NEXT, UH, PROCLAMATION FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING MONTH.

AND I'D LIKE TO INVITE ALLIE GAYLORD OF GENERATION H TO THE PODIUM TO ACCEPT THE PROCLAMATION, WHICH READS AFFORDABLE HOUSING MONTH, MAY, 2026.

WHEREAS AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS ONE OF THE CORNERSTONES OF DEMOCRACY AND COMMUNITIES THRIVE WHEN ALL FAMILIES HAVE A PLACE TO CALL HOME.

AND WHEREAS EACH YEAR, FAMILIES IN PETALUMA STRUGGLE TO FIND AFFORDABLE HOME IN ONE OF THE MOST EXPENSIVE HOUSING MARKETS IN THE NATION.

AND WHEREAS AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS AN ESSENTIAL ELEMENT OF OUR EQUITABLE

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UH, OKAY.

UM, NOT THIS YEAR.

UM, WHEREAS THE CITY IS COMMITTED TO SAFE, STABLE, AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR ALL RESIDENTS.

AND WHEREAS THE STRENGTH OF PETALUMA'S COMMUNITY AND ECONOMY DEPENDS ON PROVIDING ACCESS TO HOUSING OPTIONS THAT ALLOW CURRENT AND FUTURE RESIDENTS OF ALL INCOME LEVELS AND ETHNICITIES TO LIVE WHERE THEY WORK.

AND WHEREAS ORGANIZATIONS THROUGHOUT PETALUMA ARE DEDICATED TO PROVIDING SAFE, STABLE, PERMANENT, AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR ALL MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY AND COLLABORATIVELY ARE WORKING TO BRING THE NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO THE FOREFRONT OF DISCUSSIONS IN PETALUMA.

WHEREAS THESE ORGANIZATIONS ARE ENCOURAGED TO PARTNER WITH LOCAL AGENCIES AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO RECOGNIZE AFFORDABLE HOUSING MONTH, WHICH SUPPORTS THE SHARING OF BEST PRACTICES, OPPORTUNITIES, AND SOLUTIONS TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT IS THE RIGHT OF ALL INDIVIDUALS.

NOW, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT I, KEVIN MCDONALD, MAYOR OF PETALUMA, ALONG WITH THE MEM ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY OF PETALUMA COUNCIL DO HEREBY PROCLAIM MAY, 2026 AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING MONTH IN THE CITY OF PETALUMA.

AND GOOD EVENING, MAYOR MCDONALD, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF, I'M ALLIE GAYLORD HERE ON BEHALF OF GENERATION HOUSING, WE WANNA THANK THE CITY OF PETALUMA, THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY STAFF FOR PROCLAIMING MAY AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING MONTH.

PETALUMA'S COMMITMENT TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS SHOWING UP IN REAL RESULTS THROUGH PRES PRESERVATION EFFORTS AND NEW DEVELOPMENTS LIKE 4 1 4 PETALUMA, WASHINGTON COMMONS, AND THE MERIDIAN AT PETALUMA NORTH STATION.

THESE PROJECTS AND OTHERS LIKE THEM MEAN STABILITY, OPPORTUNITY, UM, FOR THE WORKERS, FAMILIES, AND SENIORS WHO CALL PETALUMA HOME.

UM, AS AN ASIDE, WHEN I FIRST STARTED WORKING ON MY FIRST AFFORDABLE H HOUSING PROJECT WITHIN PETALUMA IN 2018, WE WERE SO EXCITED WE DIDN'T NEED ANY, UH, SUPPORT FROM YMB GROUPS BECAUSE PETALUMA IS ALREADY YES, IN MY BACKYARD AND ALREADY WANTS TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE WHO ARE MORE VULNERABLE AND LESS FORTUNATE.

UM, PETALUMA HAS MADE MEANINGFUL FUNDING AND POLICY DECISIONS IN ORDER TO CREATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE CITY ONLY, AND WE APPRECIATE THE LEADERSHIP AND COLLABORATION THAT IT TAKES TO MOVE THESE EFFORTS FORWARD.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO WORK TOGETHER TO ENSURE EVERYONE IN OUR COMMUNITY HAS ACCESS TO SAFE AND AFFORDABLE PLACE TO CALL HOME.

TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT AND DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, UH, THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS AND ITEMS OF INTEREST THAT ARE WITHIN THE CITY COUNCIL SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION, BUT THAT ARE NOT LISTED UNDER ANY CURRENT PART OF OUR AGENDA.

THAT BRINGS US

[GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT]

PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES, AND DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL TIME WILL BE ALLOCATED EQUAL SHARES TO TOTALING NO MORE THAN 20 MINUTES.

AND WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO ASK OUR CLERK IF WE'VE HAD ANY EMAILS IN ON GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.

WE DID RECEIVE ONE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, WHICH IS POSTED ONLINE, AND I HAVE A FEW CARDS, BUT AT THIS POINT, I WILL START A 32ND CLOCK.

AND DURING THESE 30 SECONDS, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC SHOULD BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARDS TO MY DESK IF THEY HAVE NOT ALREADY DONE SO.

SPEAKER CARDS RECEIVED AFTER THE 30 SECONDS MAY NOT BE ACCOMMODATED.

WE HAVE, UH, FOUR SPEAKERS TONIGHT, SO WE'LL BE SETTING OUR CLOCK AT THREE MINUTES.

AND OUR, UH, FIRST SPEAKER TONIGHT WILL BE DAN BERRY TO BE FOLLOWED BY KATHY MEYERS.

EVERYBODY HAS BEEN SO SUPPORTIVE OF THIS THAT I'M JUST BLOWN AWAY BECAUSE I HAVE FRIENDS IN TEXAS WHERE MY ROOTS ARE WHOSE CITY COUNCILS, THEY'RE SO DIVISIVE AND NON-SUPPORTIVE OF ANYTHING, WHETHER IT'S GOOD OR BAD, IT IMMEDIATELY BECOMES FRACTIOUS.

MY NAME'S DAN BERRY, PETALUMA RESIDENT FOR 31 YEARS.

UM, LIVE IN WESTRIDGE KNOLLS WITH MY WIFE.

WE'VE RAISED TWO CHILDREN HERE, SO WE FEEL PRETTY STRONG ABOUT PETALUMA AND THAT'S WHY I CAME HERE TONIGHT.

I DON'T HAVE ANY GRIPES, , I HAVE PRAISE BECAUSE I'M A ROTARIAN.

I'M NOT LIKE IN THE CORE COMMITTEE WITH THE PRESIDENT AND LENA FURLONG, UM, ROYCE VAN BBER, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE REALLY DRIVING THE SPIRIT OF PETALUMA BEACON.

SO AT THE SOUTH END OF TOWN, BEFORE THE BOULEVARD GOES UNDER THE FREEWAY, AN ART INSTALLATION IS GOING IN.

AND I'M JUST ECSTATIC ABOUT IT AND THE SUPPORT THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FROM THE PEOPLE ON THE COUNCIL, BUT NOT ONLY THE COUNCIL, BUT PUBLIC WORKS, BUILDING WATER,

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AND I'M JUST SO HAPPY THAT WE CAN LIVE HERE AND PEOPLE CAN VOICE THEIR COMMENTS, BUT EVERYBODY IS GENERALLY POSITIVE ABOUT SOMETHING WHICH IS PUBLIC ART GOING IN AND THE ROTARY IS PAYING FOR IT WITH DONATIONS.

AND I'M JUST SO PLEASED ABOUT THAT, THAT I HAD TO COME HERE ON MY WAY TO ANOTHER MEETING TO THANK EVERYBODY WHO'S INVOLVED.

AND I KNOW THERE WERE OTHER PEOPLE HERE THAT WERE ALSO INVOLVED.

SO APPRECIATIVE OF PETALUMA.

THE OTHER THING, SINCE I HAVE TIME TO DO TWO THINGS, UH, SO I WAS ON LEADERSHIP PETALUMA, WHICH EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT THAT IS.

I I BET THEY DID THESE POSTERS ON THE WALL LEADERSHIP PETALUMA GREAT PROGRAM.

I WAS ON LEADERSHIP IN 2022 SLASH 23, AND WE RAISED MONEY AS OUR GROUP PROJECT TO PUT IN DARROW BIKE FIX-IT STATIONS.

SO WE GOT DONATIONS, RAISED OUR OWN MONEY, AND WE HAD, UH, ENOUGH TO PUT IN FOUR STATIONS THAT WE PAID FOR.

AND THEN THE CITY KICKED IN AS PART OF CLIMATE READY PETALUMA, THEY KICKED IN AND BOUGHT A FIFTH ONE.

SO WE INSTALLED FOUR OF THOSE THINGS.

SO KAVANAUGH CENTER, MARY ISAAC CENTER, UH, LUCCHESE, AND ALSO THE SMART WAS THE FOURTH ONE THAT WENT IN DOWNTOWN SMART.

BUT IT'S BEEN A YEAR AND A HALF AND WE HAVEN'T INSTALLED THE FIFTH ONE.

SO I KNOW I JUST MET JEFF AND WE'RE GONNA TALK TO BOURNE, BUT I, WE'D REALLY LIKE TO GET THE FIFTH ONE INSTALLED SO WE CAN BE DONE WITH IT.

UH, THESE THINGS ARE BEAUTIFUL.

THEY'RE A STANDS, SO YOU CAN PUT YOUR BIKE UP ON THE STAND AND THEN THERE'S TOOLS ATTACHED.

SO I ACTUALLY HAVE THE TOOLS IN THE TRUNK OF MY CAR IN CASE BJORN EVER CALLED AND SAID, WE'RE PUTTING IT IN TODAY.

CAN YOU INSTALL THE TOOLS? SO THE TOOLS THAT HANG ON CABLES, I'D LOVE TO GET 'EM OUTTA MY TRUNK AND HANG THEM.

AND WE WANT TO DO THE PETALUMA SMART NORTH STATION, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE SYMMETRY ACROSS TOWN.

SO I APPRECIATE ANYTHING YOU GUYS COULD DO.

MAYBE, UM, GREASE THE WHEELS ON THAT.

HAVE A NICE EVENING.

THANKS.

KATHY MYERS TO BE FOLLOWED BY SANDRA CHEN.

UM, MY NAME'S KATHY MYERS.

I'M ON THE SENIOR ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

OUR CHAIRMAN NICOLA FRY COULDN'T COME TONIGHT, BUT SHE DID WRITE A LETTER THAT IS SENT TO ALL OF YOU AND THE STAFF, SO YOU COULD TAKE A LOOK AT THAT FOR MORE DETAILS.

IT SORT OF HIGHLIGHTS THE PROJECT THAT'S BEEN ONGOING.

NICOLA AND DON FOREMAN, WHO IS ON OUR COMMITTEE HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD TO, UH, LOOK AT CREATIVE WAYS TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM THAT WE DO NOT HAVE A PUBLIC RESTROOM DOWNTOWN.

IT'S BECOME A KIND OF A CRISIS AS WE GET OLDER.

IT LIMITS SOME OF THE TIME WE COULD SPEND, SPEND DOWNTOWN.

AND UM, IT AFFECTS NOT ONLY SENIORS, BUT PEOPLE OF ALL AGES, ESPECIALLY PEOPLE WITH FAMILIES, YOUNG CHILDREN, LITTLE BILLY SAYS, I HAVE TO GO, YOU BETTER FIND SOMEPLACE FOR 'EM.

UM, OUR CITY PROUDLY SUPPORTS AGE-FRIENDLY PRINCIPLES, AND THIS, UM, SHOULD BE, UM, POSSIBLE SOLUTION.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UM, NICOLA SUGGESTED THAT AND DON SUGGESTED, IS TO LOOK AT AN OUTFIT CALLED THRONE LABS WITH THE IDEA OF LOOKING AT POSSIBLY COST EFFECTIVE SOLUTION FOR PUBLIC RESTROOMS. AND THAT IS HAVING STANDALONE UNITS.

THIS PARTICULAR, UM, ORGANIZATION, WHICH IS ON YOUTUBE, AND YOU COULD CHECK OUT THEIR, UH, WEBSITE OF COURSE HAS, UM, UM, CLEAN, THEY INSTALL CLEAN MONITORS, SELF-CONTAINED A DA ACCESSIBLE RESTROOM FACILITIES THAT INCLUDE, UM, WELL, IT SHOWS WHAT IT INCLUDES ON THE WEBSITE.

IT'S PRETTY FABULOUS.

IT DEALS WITH SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT PEOPLE HAVE WHEN THEY HEAR THE TERM PUBLIC RESTROOM IS REALLY NOVEL SOLUTIONS.

I THINK IT'S VERY INNOVATIVE AND IT'S KIND OF AN ALL, ALL IN ONE, UM, THING.

OF COURSE, IT'S A, IT'S A RENTAL.

THE SUGGESTION, UH, UH, THAT, AND THEY USE THE EXAMINER EXAMPLE OF ANN ARBOR, MICHIGAN, WHICH HAS A POPULATION OF 120,000 PEOPLE.

THEY ENDED, THEY DID A PILOT PROGRAM AND THAT WOULD PROBABLY WORK SOMEWHAT FOR PETALUMA

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TO SEE HOW THAT WORKS.

SORT OF A ONE STOP SHOP FOR MAINTENANCE, UM, ACCESSIBILITY, SAFETY CLEANUP, AND UM, IF THERE'S ANY VANDALISM, WHICH CAN HAPPEN, THEY HAVE A SYSTEM WHERE THEY HAVE A LARGE WALLPAPER MADE OF STICKERS THAT CAN BE PLACED OVER, UH, ANY VANDALISM OR TAGGING OR WHATEVER.

IT WOULD CERTAINLY SOLVE THE PROBLEM FOR A LOT OF US WHO, UH, SUCH AS MYSELF.

AND THANK YOU.

THAT'S OUR THREE MINUTES.

OH, OKAY.

AM I DONE? THANK YOU.

WELL, WE, UH, WE HAVE, UM, HEARD QUITE A BIT AND ARE MOTIVATED ON THIS.

SO OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS SANDRA SHAN TO BE FOLLOWED BY, UH, TIM PORTUS.

HELLO.

IT HAS COME TO MY ATTENTION THAT SOME OF MY FELLOW PETALUMA ARE FEARFUL THAT THE COUNCIL AND THAT YOU ALL HAVE GONE TOO FAR IN STANDING UP FOR HUMAN RIGHTS AND CIVIL RIGHTS AND FOR ALL MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY BY JOINING THE LAWSUIT, BY FIGHTING FOR WHAT IS RIGHTFULLY OURS.

AND BY FOLLOWING THE CONSTITUTION, THIS SENTIMENT TO ME SEEMS TO BE BASED IN FEAR.

AND THESE FEARS ARE COMPLETELY UNBASED.

IN FACT, THE FEAR IS THAT SOMEONE NEW IS GOING TO TAKE SOMETHING AWAY, IS GOING TO HURT A RESIDENT IN SOME WAY.

THIS IS BASED ON MISPERCEPTIONS AND PURPOSEFUL MISINFORMATION.

DISINFORMATION AND HATEFUL RHETORIC ABOUT IMMIGRANTS AND REFUGEES ARE EVERYWHERE AT AMERICAN FRIEND SERVICE COMMITTEE, THE QUAKER ORGANIZATION AND GLOBAL REFUGE.

THEY HAVE STATISTICS, IMMIGRANTS AND REFUGEES MAKE THE UNITED STATES A BETTER PLACE.

NOT ONLY IS WELCOMING NEWCOMERS THE RIGHT THING TO DO, IT IS ALSO THE SMART THING TO DO, GET THE FACTS REGARDLESS OF SOMEONE'S MANNER OF ENTRY SEEKING ASYLUM IS A LEGAL RIGHT OF THE CORNER OF US.

AND INTERNATIONAL LAW STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT RATHER THAN LOWERING WAGES DUE TO COMPETITION, THE IMMIGRANT WORKFORCE HAS INSTEAD SUPPORTED HIGHER WAGES FOR ALL POPULATIONS.

WHEN WE WORK TOWARD EQUITY, WE WORK TOWARD A BETTER SOCIETY FOR ALL.

IT'S A TOTAL MYTH THAT REFUGEES AND IMMIGRANTS TAKE AMERICAN JOBS WITH NEARLY 10 MILLION UNFILLED JOBS NATIONWIDE.

AT A TIME OF RECORD, LOW UNEMPLOYMENT IMMIGRANTS ARE ESSENTIAL TO FILLING IN THE GAPS IN THE AMERICAN WORKFORCE.

IMMIGRANTS ARE ALSO MORE LIKELY TO CONTRIBUTE TO JOB CREATION THAN DISPLACEMENT.

IMMIGRANTS AND REFUGEES IN THE US FILL ESSENTIAL POSITIONS AT ALL SKILL LEVELS.

IMMIGRANTS ARE FARM WORKERS, HOSPITALITY WORKERS, DOCTORS, NURSES, COMPUTER PROGRAMMERS, EDUCATORS, ARCHITECTS, EMERGENCY SERVICES STAFF, AND MUCH MORE.

2.8 MILLION IMMIGRANTS IN THE US IN 2021, FOR EXAMPLE, WORKED IN HEALTHCARE IN THE US.

SO PLEASE, AS AN AGRICULTURAL COUNTY, WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE THAT YOU ARE PROTECTING OUR LOCAL ECONOMY BY PROTECTING JOBS AND THE CONSTITUTION FOR ALL.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR STAND OF COURAGE AND FOR WATCHING OUT FOR SONOMA COUNTY.

AND PETALUMA.

OUR NEXT, UH, OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS TIM PORTUS, TO BE FOLLOWED BY CHRISTOPHER TIVI.

THREE MINUTES, .

GOOD EVENING MAYOR, COUNCIL AND STAFF.

WE, THE RESIDENTS OF YOUNGSTOWN MUST CONTINUE TO STAND UP FOR OUR RIGHTS FOR THE LAWS THAT ARE MEANT TO BE FOLLOWED.

WE ARE SHELL-SHOCKED AT THE EXTENT PARK OWNERS MANAGEMENT AND THOSE WHO HAVE ALIGNED THEMSELVES WITH THEM WILL GO TO BRING DOWN SENIOR CITIZENS JUST TO MAKE THE CITY LOOK BAD.

THE CITY HAS LOOKED AT ALL THE ISSUES, SEEN THE BROKEN LAWS AND ORDINANCES, AND IT DID, AND DID WHAT MOST CITIES MIGHT NOT HAVE DEFENDED THE MOST VULNERABLE, ENFORCED THE INTENT OF RSOS PUT IN PLACE SO

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MANY YEARS AGO.

THESE TYPE OF BUSINESS PRACTICES OR OTHER PRACTICES MAKE OUR SKIN CRAWL.

IRONY IS THAT THIS TYPE OF BUSINESS OWNER MANAGEMENT COULDN'T POSSIBLY REALIZE THAT NOT EVERYONE STANDS UP VULNER VULNERABLE OR FOR SOMETHING IN IT FOR THEMSELVES.

LOVING THEIR NEIGHBOR IS NOT A LANGUAGE THEY KNOW.

THE MOTIVE IS MORE THAN CRYSTAL CLEARER GOUGE, GREED, INTIMIDATE, RETALIATE, SENIOR ABUSE, BURY THOSE LESS FORTUNATE AND ILLEGAL DEBT TO GET MORE MONEY OR TO DEMAND SUBMISSION FROM THE LESS FORTUNATE.

THE QUESTION REMAINS IS THAT THE TYPE OF BUSINESS MANAGEMENT ALLOWED TO BE A PART OF THE BUSINESSES OF PETALUMA, THE BUSINESS OF SENIOR CITIZENS.

WE THINK NOT WITH US, SAY NO TO SENIOR ABUSE.

AND THIS IS RIGHT.

YOU GUYS, YOU HAVE STOOD UP FOR US AND WE THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND WE KNOW THE BATTLE IS NOT OVER.

THEY'RE MAKING IT WORSE FOR US.

JUST LIKE THEY'RE MAKING IT WORSE FOR YOU.

THEIR INTENT IS A COMPLETE WIN.

IF THEY BEAT YOU AND OUR SUPERVISORS, THEY BEAT US.

THEY CONTINUE TO ROLL WITH THEIR INCREDIBLE MACHINE AND TAKE SO MANY PEOPLE'S LIVES, FUTURES, HOPES.

NONE OF US WANT THIS.

I DON'T WANT TO BE DIAGNOSED ANY LONGER WITH HIGH ANXIETY, EXTREME DEPRESSION.

I DON'T WANT THIS.

YOU GUYS DON'T NEED THIS PRESSURE EITHER, BUT, AND I'M SORRY IT'S HERE.

AND PLEASE CONTINUE WITH YOUR BOLD HELP TO US AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND THANK YOU.

AND CHRISTOPHER STEVI.

CHRISTOPHER.

STEVE HERE.

UM, THIS COULD BE SHORT AND SWEET.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO, UM, ENDORSE THE MAYOR'S, UH, COMMITTEE TO REVIEW THE TRESTLE.

UM, I HAVE LISTED ALL OF THE TIMES THAT THERE WAS PROMISED TO BE A, A VIGOROUS PUBLIC OUTREACH, WHICH HAS NEVER HAPPENED.

WE HAVE IT NOW, AND I THANK YOU.

UP TO COUNCIL AND, UM, LIKE TO START WITH, UH, COUNCILMAN BARNACLE TONIGHT ON RECENT ACTIVITIES.

AND, UH, THAT CLO CLOSES PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THE EVENING.

I'LL BRING IT BACK

[COUNCIL COMMENT]

UH, I HAVE NOTHING.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CATER THOMPSON.

UM, OKAY.

UM, THE MAYOR AND I WENT TO, AND I JUST LOST IT ON HERE, HANG ON A SECOND, TO AN ADVANCED QUANTITATIVE PER PRECIPITATION INFORMATION.

UM, AND THIS IS SOMETHING NEW WITH THE COUNTY AND IT'S THIS BIG SPHERE AND WHAT IT DOES, IT LOOKS FOR, UM, PER PRECIPITATION AND LETS US KNOW IF THERE'S GONNA BE ANY FLOODING.

AND THAT IS SEPARATE FROM THE RO PROJECT, WHICH, UM, BASICALLY LETS YOU KNOW WHEN YOU SHOULD LET WATER OUT OF THE DAM.

SO IT'S TWO DIFFERENT, UM, PIECES OF EQUIPMENT, BUT IT'S GONNA MAKE IT SAFER, UM, FOR THE FUTURE.

AND WHEN WE KNOW THAT THERE'S FLOODING, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND TELL PEOPLE, WELL, WHERE TO MOVE TO.

AND USUALLY IT'S ROAD FLOODING UNLESS IT'S A MAJOR FLOOD.

AND THEN THAT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT SITUATION.

BUT IT WAS A REALLY INTERESTING GOING AND JUST LEARNING ABOUT, UM, THESE ADVANCES.

AND IT'S ALL GOOD FOR THE PUBLIC.

UM, AS FAR AS THE, UM, UH, THE WATER, UH, PUBLIC WORKS, I JUST REALLY WANNA THANK PUBLIC WORKS AND ACTUALLY OUR WATER DEPARTMENT AND EVERYBODY FOR ALL THAT YOU DO, PEOPLE HAVE NO IDEA HOW MUCH YOU WORK.

YESTERDAY THERE WAS A WATER BREAK AND SOMEBODY CONTACTED ME AND IT WAS IN MY CL YOU KNOW, CLOSE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, IN MY DISTRICT.

I WENT DOWN THERE AND THEY HAD A GREAT EXPLANATION.

THERE WAS BASICALLY A BREAK OF WATER MAIN, AND SO THEY WERE DOING A TEMPORARY FIX, BUT PEOPLE WERE WITHOUT WATER FOR PROBABLY FROM EARLY MORNING UNTIL SIX AT NIGHT.

UM, AND SO IT'S JUST GREAT THAT WE HAVE SUCH GOOD TEAMS WORKING TOGETHER AND I THANK EVERYBODY FOR THAT AND THE EMERGENCY MEDICAL.

UM, WE ALL THANK YOU, UM, BECAUSE WHENEVER THERE'S AN EMERGENCY AND YOU COME TO OUR DOOR, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE PARAMEDICS, IT'S UM, IT SAVES LIVES.

UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

ALI WAS HERE TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND THAT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE NEED TO BE HOUSED.

WE'RE ALL HOUSED IN THIS ROOM, BUT PEOPLE

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THAT AREN'T HOUSED, WE NEED TO START THINKING OF.

AND I ALSO WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT.

DAN BERRY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING THAT EQUIPMENT OUT OF YOUR TRUNK.

AND SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND WORK ON THAT.

I'M SURE THE CITY STAFF HEARD, AND SO YOU'LL BE HEARING FROM US.

UM, AND I'M REALLY GRATEFUL THAT IT'S GONNA BE AT THE NORTH STATION FIX IT STATION.

IT'S GONNA BE GREAT.

UM, KATHY MYERS, I WAS LOOKING AT THIS, UM, THE THRONE ONLINE AND IT IS SOMETHING I, MAYBE THIS IS AN INTERIM BEFORE WE BUILD SOMETHING OURSELVES TO AT LEAST HAVE, UM, RENTING A BATHROOM.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COST IS, BUT IT MIGHT BE WORTH LOOKING INTO.

UM, AND SANDRA SHAHAN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

AND ACTUALLY, UM, CHRISTOPHER TIVI ALSO HAVING A COMMITTEE FOR THE TRESTLE IS A GOOD THING AND IT, I THINK IT'S A GOOD COMMITTEE THAT'S BEING PUT TOGETHER.

AND TIM, THANK YOU ALWAYS FOR COMING.

THANK YOU VICE MAYOR.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

I DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC LIAISON REPORTS.

THE AIRPORT COMMISSION GOT CANCELED THIS MONTH.

UM, HOWEVER, WE DID RESCHEDULE FOR TOMORROW NIGHT, AND THAT'S GONNA BE HERE AT SEVEN 30 IF ANYONE'S INTERESTED IN ATTENDING.

UH, AT THE END OF THIS MONTH, THEY ARE LOOKING AT CLOSING DOWN ONE OF THE TAXIWAYS FOR CONSTRUCTION.

IT'LL BE CLOSED FOR A PERIOD OF 10 DAYS OR SO.

SO IF YOU'RE IN THE AVIATION WORLD AND THAT'S GONNA AFFECT YOU NOW, YOU KNOW, UM, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLE REMEDIES TO, TO MITIGATE, YOU KNOW, IMPACTS TO THE AIRPORT AND PEOPLE WHO USE IT AND BUSINESSES THERE.

SO THAT WILL BE TOMORROW NIGHT.

AND THEN, UM, I WANNA GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO ONE OF OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES DOWN AT THE, UH, UM, THE FLOAT HOUSE.

UM, ON MAY 9TH.

I WASN'T ABLE TO ATTEND, BUT I WOULD'VE LIKED TO.

THEY DID A LITTLE HISTORY CRUISE, UM, DOWN THE RIVER WITH THE MUSEUM.

THEY PARTNERED WITH THEM AND, AND DID A LITTLE HISTORY TOUR WHILE EVERYBODY PADDLED.

AND, UM, IT'S PRETTY COOL TO SEE THAT KIND OF STUFF ON OUR HERITAGE AND, AND LOOK AT WHAT THE RIVER USED TO BE.

AND THEN, UM, I HOPE EVERYBODY WAS ABLE TO ATTEND CRUISING THE BOULEVARD LAST WEEKEND AND ENJOY THAT.

THAT'S ANOTHER GREAT PART OF OUR HERITAGE.

UM, CARS AND CRUISING DOWNTOWN AND AND CELEBRATING AMERICAN GRAFFITI AND ALL THAT MAKES PETALUMA GREAT.

YEAH, I'M SORRY I MISSED THAT TOO, ON THE RIVER.

THAT'S REALLY GOOD.

EVENT, UM, CA COUNCIL MEMBER NOW.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

UM, I, ALONG WITH SOME CITY STAFF AND COUNCIL MEMBER CATER THOMPSON, I ATTENDED THE ZERO WASTE SYMPOSIUM ON MAY 7TH.

THIS ALL DAY EVENT EMPHASIZED REDESIGN, REDO, REUSE, ROT, AND RECYCLE LOVE.

THE NEWLY ADDED WORDS LIKE ROT FOR COMPOST AND DESIGNED FOR PACKAGING AND MARKETING.

DO YOU KNOW THE DANGERS, ELECTRONIC CIGARETTES AND VAPE DEVICES BESIDES BAD FOR OUR HEALTH AND OUR TEENS? THESE DEVICES, IF NOT DISPOSED OF CORRECTLY, CAN CAUSE FIRES, ENVIRONMENTAL HAZARDS, ET CETERA.

THERE'S NO ESTABLISHED PROCEDURE OR PROTOCOL AND TOO MUCH IMPROPER DISPOSAL AND INDEFINITE STORAGE OF THESE DEVICES.

HAZARDOUS NON REFILLABLE E-LIQUID RESERVOIRS, UN UNREMOVABLE, LITHIUM ION BATTERIES, CHEAP RE UNRECYCLABLE, PLASTIC SHELL ALL GLUED TOGETHER, COMPONENTS COSTLY AND DANGEROUS TO DISABLE AND DISASSEMBLE.

5.9 VAPES OR SECONDS ARE DISPOSED OF AND DISCARDED IN THE US.

MOST DEVICES CONTAIN A SINGLE PACK OF CIGARETTES WORTH OF NICOTINE.

3,300 EV BATTERIES WORTH OF LITHIUM ARE PUT IN LANDFILLS DUE TO THIS POOR DESIGN.

194 MILLION PIECES OF PLASTIC GENERATED ANNUALLY IN CALIFORNIA FROM DISPOSABLE VAPES.

THE WASTE IMPACTS OUR LITTER AND POLLUTIONS TOSIC LEE SHADE THAT GETS INTO OUR LANDS AND OUR WATERWAYS, THE WASTE INDUSTRY FIRES AND PERMANENT PLASTICS.

SO I LEARNED ALL THAT IN ONE DAY AND I THOUGHT I KNEW EVERYTHING ABOUT ZERO WASTE.

SO WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE, UM, VAPES DEVICES AND E-CIGARETTES AND IT'S VERY SCARY.

AS FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT FROM, UM, DAN BARRY, THE BIKE FIXIT STATION, I THINK THERE'S ONE AT THE LIBRARY AND THE FAIRGROUNDS BECAUSE I'VE USED IT WITH MY GRANDCHILDREN.

AND THANK YOU DAN AND YOUR LEADERSHIP CLASS BECAUSE THEY'RE VERY HANDY TO HAVE AND I SUPPORT ONE AT THE NORTH STATION ALSO.

THANK YOU FOR THE ROUNDABOUT PUBLIC ART, AND IT'S A GREAT, UM, THING TO SEE WHEN YOU FIRST ENTER PETALUMA FROM OUR SOUTHERN, UM, ENTRANCE.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

COUNCIL MEMBER QUINT.

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HELLO.

UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY NEW LIAISON REPORTS SINCE OUR LAST MEETING, BUT I DID HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH STAFF LAST WEEK TO GET A SNEAK PEEK AT AN UPDATE TO THE PROPOSED TRANSIT CHANGES.

UH, AS MANY OF YOU, UH, ARE AWARE, MARIA ARCE IS NOW LEADING THE TRANSIT TEAM AND SHE AND THE REST OF THE TRANSIT STAFF WEREN'T SATISFIED WITH THE DIRECTION OF THE SERVICE REDUCTIONS AND WANTED TO SEE IF THEY COULD GET MORE CREATIVE.

UH, SO THEY WENT TO WORK ON THAT.

I GOT TO SEE SORT OF A SNEAK PEEK OF WHAT THEY WOULD BE BRINGING TO TAC TOMORROW NIGHT AT 6:00 PM SO IF THAT'S A, A TOPIC THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO PARTICIPATE.

AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE WILL BE SOME, UH, YOU KNOW, CREATIVE STUFF TO, TO MITIGATE SOME OF THE, UH, SERVICE CUTS THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.

I ALSO HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND THE CRUISE IN THE BOULEVARD EVENT AND WANNA RECOGNIZE THE LOCAL BUSINESS.

UH, MY FAVORITE VEHICLE IN THE SHOW WAS THE VINTAGE LACE HOUSE, LINEN DELIVERY VAN.

UH, IT'S GREAT WHEN YOU SEE, UH, YOU KNOW, A LOCAL BUSINESS, UH, LIKE I'M SURE THAT VAN WAS LIKE DELIVERING STUFF HOWEVER MANY YEARS AGO.

AND, UH, SO IT WAS A GREAT PIECE OF HISTORY AND THOUGHT IT WAS GREAT.

COUNCIL MEMBER SCHIBS.

NO, UM, COMMITTEE REPORTS AT THE MOMENT, HOWEVER, I DID GO TO THE FIVE YEAR ANNIVERSARY FOR RELIEF AND THEY BACKED UP THE, UH, THE DATA OF, UM, HOW MANY TREES THEY'VE PUT IN OVER CLOSE TO 500 TREES IN INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE'S YARDS, UM, IN THE LAST, UH, YEAR.

UM, BUT ALSO WE HIT THE 3000TH TREE MILESTONE.

UM, SO THAT, UH, ON OUR WAY TO 10,000 TREES.

SO WE'RE ON OUR WAY, UM, AND STILL WORKING THROUGH THEIR, THEIR GRANT THROUGH THE REST OF THE YEAR.

UM, I'M ALSO WORKING ON, UM, E-BIKE RULES AND REGULATIONS.

THERE'S NINE BILLS GOING THROUGH THE STATE RIGHT NOW.

UH, TWO SEEM TO BE, UH, HAVE GONE, MAY HAVE GONE AWAY AND NOT MADE IT THROUGH A COMMITTEE.

UH, BUT THERE'S STILL LOTS OF DISCUSSIONS GOING ON.

SO IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN E-BIKE RULES AND REGULATIONS AT THE STATE LEVEL AND WOULD LIKE TO COME TOGETHER, I'M, UM, WORKING WITH A COUPLE OF THE FOLKS OF THE BIKE COMMUNITY TO, UM, MAYBE PUT IN A, UM, REQUEST JUST FOR WHAT DO WE WANT HERE IN PETALUMA.

SO, UH, SO PLEASE, UH, LET ME KNOW IF YOU'RE INTERESTED.

THEN, UM, ONE, UM, JUST ON THE PUBLIC SERVICE, I'VE HAD TWO BREAK WATER BREAKS ON MY STREET AND THEY'VE CAME IN AND, AND FIXED THEM, SO THANK YOU PUBLIC WORKS FOR THAT.

UM, NEXT, NEXT OF COURSE IS GONNA BE THE, THE SURFACE OF THE ROAD.

THAT'S GONNA BE A WHILE.

UM, 'CAUSE THAT'LL BE DELAYED.

I'M NOT EVEN ON THE LIST, BUT YEP.

I'VE GOTTA WAIT FOR OTHERS.

BUT I'LL GET THERE.

WE WILL GET THERE.

UM, UH, THERE WAS A, UM, IN THE AGENDA TONIGHT ON, UH, UM, IN THE, UM, UH, TENCENT CALENDAR, THERE IS A LISTING.

WE DID GET A GRANT FOR SOME, UH, CROSSWALKS AND FOR SOME, UM, OTHER PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS ENHANCEMENTS ON SOME OF THE MAJOR ROADS.

UM, AND THERE'S BEEN DEATHS RIGHT AT, RIGHT AT THE CORNER NEAR ME, UM, WHICH IS RIGHT ONTO SNOWMAN MOUNTAIN PARKWAY.

AND THAT'S IS ONE OF THE ONES THAT'S BEEN TARGETED FOR IMPROVEMENT THROUGH A GRANT.

UH, SO IT'S NOT CITY MONEY, IT'S GRANT MONEY THAT'S DOING THIS.

SO, SO AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR PUBLIC WORKS FOR GETTING THAT DONE.

THEN UH, THE OTHER ANNOUNCEMENT, UM, WASN'T ANNOUNCED LAST WEEK.

I WAS HOPING IT WAS, BUT I DIDN'T HEAR IT THIS WEEK.

BUT, UM, THERE WAS A, UH, ARTICLE IN THE, UH, PRESS DEMOCRAT, ESPECIALLY FROM THE NORTH BAY ABOUT THE INFLUENTIAL WOMEN IN OUR COUNTY.

AND OUR VERY OWN CITY MANAGER WAS ANNOUNCED AS ONE OF THE MAIN, UH, INFLUENTIAL WOMEN OF THE COUNTY.

SO CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT.

UH, I PARTICIPATED IN THE, IN A KNOW YOUR RIGHTS MEETING WITH THE AFRICAN COMMUNITY OF PETALUMA, UH, HOSTED, UH, BY THE SECURE FAMILY COLLABORATIVE AND THE AFRICAN ADVOCACY NETWORK.

AND, UM, FOR MY REPORT, UH, I HELPED, UH, REBUILDING, DO A RIBBON CUTTING FOR THEIR NEW HOUSING.

UH, IT'S AN OLD HOUSE, BUT NEW TO THEM.

UH, THEY HAD A DONOR STEP UP TO HELP THEM WITH A PURCHASE.

AND REBUILDING HAS TAKEN OVER OUR DOWNTOWN STREETS TEAM, HOMELESS FOLKS GETTING BACK IN THEIR EMPLOYMENT AND THIS IS HOW THEY'LL KEEP THEM HOUSED.

SO IT'S A REAL, UH, BIG STEP FORWARD FOR REBUILDING AND FOR THE COMMUNITY.

ALSO, WANTED TO GIVE A BIG SHOUT OUT TO COTS.

THEY DID THEIR ANNUAL FUNDRAISER THIS PAST, UH, WEEKEND AND, UH, IT WAS WELL ATTENDED AND, AND, UH, SUCCESSFUL.

BUT THEIR CAUSE THIS YEAR IS TO GET THE FAMILY HOUSING FURTHER.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE HIGHEST NEEDS IN, IN HOMELESSNESS RIGHT NOW IS FAMILY HOUSING.

SO BOTH THOSE ORGANIZATIONS HELPING THE CITY QUITE A BIT.

UM, THE CITY STAFF, CITY MANAGER AND AND OTHERS.

UM, AND I DID A PRESENTATION TO THE LATINO LEADERSHIP AT THE CAFE PUENTE.

UH, IT'S GOOD TO HEAR DIRECTLY WHAT THE CONCERNS IN THE COMMUNITY ARE AND, UH, TRANSIT FLOATED TO THE TOP OF THAT.

AND, UH, AND THEY ALSO MENTIONED, AGAIN, HOW SAFE THEY FEEL IN PETALUMA RELATIVE TO OTHER AREAS OF THE COUNTY AND BEYOND.

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THAT WAS, UM, AN INTERESTING, UH, MEETING.

AND, UH, I GOT TO HELP WITH THE PROCLAMATION TO BEAUTIFY PETALUMA AND, AND, UH, REBUILDING WHO WERE ADDING THE, UM, NEW HANGING BASKETS THROUGHOUT DOWNTOWN.

AND I GOT TO JUDGE THE SCIENCE FAIR OVER AT KENNELWORTH.

UH, THE THEME WAS ADDING BIODIVERSITY, SO THAT WAS TOPICAL AND FUN.

AND, UM, JOINED OUR FRIENDS OUT AT THE COAST GUARD BASE FOR THEIR, UM, PROGRAM.

UH, THEY'RE A NATIONAL TRAINING SITE FOR A ST, UH, I GUESS WE SHOULDN'T DO ABBREVIATIONS.

AERIAL SURVIVOR TECHNICIAN.

UH, IT'S HELICOPTER RESCUE.

THEY DROP SOMEBODY FROM A HELICOPTER AND THEY'RE GRADUATING THE FIRST WOMAN IN 15 YEARS FOR COAST GUARD.

SO, YOU KNOW, GO PETALUMA AND, UM, ATTENDED THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE SHOWCASE.

IT'S IMPRESSIVE HOW MUCH BUSINESS IS, UH, HAPPENING RIGHT HERE IN PETALUMA.

UH, AND THEN OF COURSE THE AMERICAN GRAFFITI AND CRUISE IN THE BOULEVARD, UH, WAS WONDERFUL THIS WEEKEND.

AND THEY DONATE $29,000 WORTH OF AEDS DEFIBRILLATORS, UH, TO OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT THIS YEAR.

AND SO IT WAS, IT'S REALLY FUN TO HAVE COMMUNITY GROUPS LIKE THAT.

ALSO ATTENDED THE, UM, MONTHLY SON COUNTY MAYOR'S MEETING AND THE IMPACTS OF THE HR, ONE BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL, IT'S GONNA COME DOWN TO, THEY HAVE KILLED THE A CA, UH, THE COST OF THE COUNTY WILL BE A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS.

THE COST OF THE INDIVIDUALS INCALCULABLE.

UM, AND WHAT THAT'LL DO ON FOOD ASSISTANCE WILL ALSO BE, UH, HORRIBLE.

AND THEN LASTLY ON MY LIST WAS TO CONGRATULATE OUR CITY MANAGER ON, ON HER AWARD.

AND SO, UH, ONE MORE TIME.

UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BRINGING ALL YOU DO TO THE CITY OF PETALUMA AND YOUR REPORT.

OH, THANK YOU.

I'M GONNA LEAVE IT ON THAT, ON THAT NOTE.

UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY REPORTS, BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME TO SERVE THE CITY.

WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND THAT MOVES US TO OUR CONSENT

[CONSENT CALENDAR]

CALENDAR.

AND SO, UH, AT THIS POINT I LOOK UP AND DOWN THE DIOCESE AND SEE IF ANYBODY WISHES TO, UH, DISCUSS OR SEPARATE ANY OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

I JUST HAVE A COMMENT ON NUMBER FOUR AND, UH, WE HAVE A QUESTION.

AND, UM, PLEASE PROCEED WITH THE QUESTION ONCE THIS IS, UM, SIGNED AND AGREED.

WHEN WILL THE PROJECT START THE CROSSWALK? UM, THAT WOULD BE THE, UH, RESOL MASTER AGREEMENT, ADMINISTERING STATE AGREEMENT FOR FEDERAL AID AND PROGRAM SUPPLEMENT AGREEMENTS FOR CROSSWALKS AND SIGNAL IMPROVEMENTS.

AND WE'RE GLAD YOU'RE HERE TONIGHT.

JEFF SUSSMAN, DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS.

UM, YEAH, SO ONCE THIS AGREEMENT'S SIGNED BY CALTRANS, IT'S, IT'S READY TO GO OUT TO BID.

SO YOU'LL HOPEFULLY SEE IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO, I GUESS IT'S GONNA TAKE THREE OR FOUR WEEKS TO PUT OUT TO BID.

UM, AND THEN YOU'LL SEE IT ON A COUNCIL ITEM AS WE AWARD IT, SO AS SOON AS WE CAN.

SO IT'S DEFINITELY GONNA HAPPEN THIS SUMMER.

THIS IS GONNA BE A HUGE IMPROVEMENT.

I'VE BEEN WORKING OR TALKING WITH PEOPLE FOR SNOW MOUNTAIN PARKWAY WITH, AT MONROE, THINKING IT WAS GONNA BE DONE EARLIER.

SO I WILL CONNECT WITH THIS PERSON AND LET 'EM KNOW IT'S ACTUALLY REALLY GONNA GET DONE BECAUSE IT'S REALLY SCARY, UM, CROSSING SNOW MOUNTAIN PARKWAY AS A, AS A PEDESTRIAN.

SO I'M THRILLED.

I THINK THERE'S TWO ON SNOWMAN MOUNTAIN PARKWAY THAT ARE GONNA HAVE THE CAGES AROUND HIM FOR SAFETY.

SO THIS IS GREAT FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YEAH, IT'S TWO, TWO EXISTING UPGRADES OF JUST LIKE WE DID ON MCDOWELL AND THEN ONE NEW ONE AT THE ACTUAL TRAIL CROSSING FOR LYNCH CREEK.

THERE'S, UM, ONE OTHER AREA I I WANNA MENTION SINCE WE HAVE THIS LIST AND IT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE SAFEWAY SHOPPING CENTER CLOSER TO THE UM, OH, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? THE UM, IT'S THE FIRST ENTRANCE INTO THE SAFEWAY SHOPPING CENTER FROM MCDOWELL.

AND YOU TAKE A LEFT, IF YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT AREA TO SEE HOW WE COULD MAKE THAT SO IT'S SAFE FOR THE RESIDENTS ON THE WEST SIDE TO ACTUALLY CROSS TO THE EAST SIDE AND BACK AND FORTH.

IT'S REALLY A LONG EXPANSIVE AREA.

A LOT OF PEOPLE LIVE THERE AND IT'S PRETTY DANGEROUS.

SO IF WE CAN JUST HAVE A LOOK AT THAT, WE WILL AND MAYBE GET SOME MOVEMENT ON IT OR SOME SOMETHING 'CAUSE IT'S CLOSE TO MCDOWELL SO I JUST WANNA KNOW WHAT CAN BE DONE AND UM, HOPEFULLY SOMETHING WILL BE DONE.

THANKS JEFF.

MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

AND I THINK WITH THAT WE MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE ITEM, UH, THE ENTIRETY OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

WE DID RECEIVE ONE COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS POSTED ONLINE AND I DON'T HAVE ANY CARDS YET, BUT AT THIS SET TIME I WILL START A 32ND CLOCK MAYBE.

UM, SO IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT A CARD FOR THE CONSENT CALENDAR, THIS IS THE MOMENT.

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NO ONE RUSHING.

I'M NOT SEEING ANYBODY REST TO THE FRONT.

WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT ON, ON UH, THE CONSENT CALENDAR, BRING IT BACK TO THE DAS.

I'LL MOVE THAT.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY CATER THOMPSON.

I'LL SECOND AND SECOND BY NOW.

AND MAY WE HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.

WONDERFUL, THANK YOU.

AND THAT BRINGS US TO PUBLIC

[6. Introduction (First Reading) of an Ordinance of the City Council of the City of Petaluma Approving Temporary Construction Easements and Permanent Public Utility Easements, and Authorizing the City Manager to Execute All Documents Necessary for the PIPS Parallel Force Main Project (C66502032)]

HEARINGS MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION.

THAT'S THE FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVING TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENTS AND PERMANENT, UM, PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENTS AND AUTHOR AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL DOCUMENTS NECESSARY FOR THE PIPS PARALLEL FORCE MAIN PROJECT, WHICH I'M SURE WE'LL GET AN AN ACRONYM BREAKDOWN FOR.

AND UH, I'D LIKE TO INVITE UP LUCAS PERRA TO UH, UH, SPEAK TO THE ISSUE.

HI, GOOD EVENING COUNSEL.

UH, NAME IS LUCAS PERRA, ASSISTANT ENGINEERING PUBLIC WORKS AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE AN ACTUAL MINI PRESENTATION FOR YOU GUYS ON THIS ITEM.

IT'S ONLY TWO SLIDES, SO NOT THAT CRAZY OF A PRESENTATION OR TOO LONG, BUT IT WOULD JUST HELP GIVE A VISUAL FOR WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACQUIRE.

ALRIGHT, SO THE VISUAL LOOKS A LITTLE BIT SIMILAR TO THE ONE THAT WE SHOWED IN THE BUDGET MEETING LAST WEEK AND WE JUST HAVE A COUPLE MORE MODIFICATIONS TO FOCUS ON THE ITEM THAT YOU GUYS HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, THE EASEMENT ACQUISITIONS.

SO TO START WITH THE PIPS ACRONYM, SO PIP STANDS FOR THE PUMP STATION ITSELF.

IT'S THE PRIMARY INFLUENT PUMP STATION.

SO THAT IS ACTUALLY THE PUMP STATION FACILITY.

AND OUR PROJECT IS THE CONSTRUCTION OF APP PARALLEL FORCE MAIN THAT LEAVES THE PUMP STATION AND GOES TO ELLIS CREEK.

AND THAT WOULD CARRY ESSENTIALLY ALL OF THE CITY'S SEWAGE THAT'S COLLECTED BY THE UH, SEWAGE SYSTEM.

AND AS PART OF THE PROJECT EARLY ON, WE IDENTIFIED A NUMBER OF EASEMENTS THAT WOULD NEED TO BE ACQUIRED FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DELIVER THE PROJECT.

WE FORTUNATELY WE HAVE THE ACTUAL ALIGNMENT OF THE PIPELINE ITSELF BEING LOCATED IN UH, THE SAME WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE EXISTING EXISTING EASEMENT THAT WE HAVE FOR THE EXISTING PIPELINE.

SO MOST OF THE ACQUISITIONS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE ARE ACTUALLY FOR TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENTS OR TCES AS YOU MIGHT SEE IN THE STAFF REPORT.

AND THE NEED FOR THOSE IS PRIMARILY FOR, EVEN THOUGH OUR PIPELINE IS LOCATED IN AN EXISTING EASEMENT, FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY DO CONSTRUCTION EXCAVATE, HAVE EQUIPMENT MOVING AROUND STOCKPILE SPOILS OR SOILS FROM THE EXCAVATION, ALL OF THAT WITHIN A 30 FOOT EASEMENT IS QUITE DIFFICULT.

SO THE TCES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACQUIRE, BASICALLY TO ALLOW US TO HAVE ACCESS IN A PRIVATE PROPERTY TO HAVE CONSTRUCTION WORKERS, MATERIAL STORED EQUIPMENT WHILE WE'RE PERFORMING CONSTRUCTION.

AND WE DO ALSO HAVE A COUPLE EASEMENTS THAT ARE PERMANENT EASEMENTS FOR THE PIPELINE TO GO.

AND THAT'S ONLY IN TWO OR THREE AREAS.

SO MOST OF THE ACQUISITIONS THAT WE HAVE, R FOUR TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENTS THAT ONLY LAST DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE, UH, I THINK WE CAN, SO ON THE SLIDE THERE WE KIND OF SHOW IT'S MAYBE NOT CRAZY BIG, SO I'M NOT SURE HOW CLEAR IT IS FOR YOU GUYS TO SEE IT.

BUT THE EASEMENTS THAT WE'RE SHOWING ARE IN THE BLUE BOXES, THE BLUE RECTANGLES, AND YOU CAN SEE IT'S SPREAD OUT THROUGH THE ALIGNMENT OF THE PROJECT.

BUT UM, MOST OF IT, LIKE I SAID, IT'S JUST TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENTS AND PRIMARILY AS WE APPROACH THE SCHOENBERGER PARK AND THE ELLIS CREEK, THERE'S A LOT OF COMMERCIAL BUILDING PROPERTIES THERE ON CYPRESS DRIVE AND THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE A LOT OF THOSE TCES.

AND BEFORE ON THE WESTERN SIDE THERE'S ALSO EASEMENTS ALONG THE MORE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE PHOTO, UH, WITH CALTRANS WITH SMART, WHICH IS THAT THE 1 0 1 CROSSING THE SMART TRACKS.

AND THEN SONOMA WATER IS THE PROPERTY RIGHT ADJACENT TO IT AT MCDOWELL CREEK AND THEN THE MARINA APARTMENTS.

AND THEN WE START HEADING TOWARDS, UH, THE, THE REST OF THE ALIGNMENT, WHICH WE DON'T NEED A LOT OF TCES FOR 'CAUSE THE, THE RED IS THE ALIGNMENT OF THE PARALLEL FORCE MAIN.

SO THAT IS JUST A VISUAL FOR YOU GUYS TO SEE WHERE THOSE ARE LOCATED.

AND ON THE NEXT SLIDE WE HAVE JUST A ZOOMED IN VERSION IN ONE OF THOSE BLUE BOXES.

OH YEAH, THAT'S A LITTLE, YEAH, THERE'S A LITTLE ANIMATION THAT WE ADDED THERE.

SO THAT'S JUST A, AN EXAMPLE OF A TCE, WHICH IS THE BLUE BOX, LITTLE NARROW 10 FOOT WIDE AREA.

AND LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE THE PIPELINE GOING WITHIN THE EXISTING AREA, THE EXISTING EASEMENT AREA, I'M SORRY, WHICH IS A LITTLE PINK BOX.

AND WE JUST HAVE,

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UH, PERFORMED APPRAISALS, MADE OFFERS TO THE PROPERTY OWNER SO THAT WE CAN HAVE ACCESS.

BASICALLY THAT'S WHAT THE TC IS FOR IS RIGHT TO HAVE ACCESS TO A PRIVATE PROPERTY AND BE THERE WHILE WE'RE CONSTRUCTING THE PIPELINE.

AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE GIST OF THE ITEM THAT YOU GUYS HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU.

AND I'M OPEN HERE AS WELL FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

WONDERFUL, THANKS SO MUCH.

UH, ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL, COUNCIL MEMBER? REBS? UM, YEAH, AS WE, UH, LAID DOWN THE PIPE, ARE WE GOING TO BE, UH, IS THE WHOLE THING GONNA BE TRENCHED SO THAT LIFTING OUT AND THEN PUT THE PIPE DOWN AND PUT THE DIRT BACK OR IS IT GONNA BE DRILLED IN AND, AND AND INSERTED WHICH TECHNIQUE OR IS BEING USED? BOTH.

BOTH.

SO THE, I BELIEVE WE HAVE FOUR TRENCHLESS SECTIONS THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE MICRO TUNNEL.

FIRST ONE IS GOING UNDERNEATH THE SMART TRACKS AND THEN THE SECOND ONE IS GOING UNDERNEATH JUST A LITTLE BIT TO THE EAST OF IT, GOING UNDERNEATH ACTUAL SONOMA WATER OR MCDOWELL CREEK, WHICH IS SONOMA WATER PROPERTY.

THOSE ARE TWO AREAS THAT YOU CAN'T OBVIOUSLY OPEN CUT SINCE YOU HAVE ACTIVE TRACKS AND A CREEK.

AND THEN FURTHER IN THE ALIGNMENT ALSO WE'RE GONNA CROSS ADOBE CREEK THAT'S FURTHER EAST, CLOSER TO ELLIS CREEK.

AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS WHERE WE'RE CROSSING FOUR, FOUR FEET IN DIAMETER, STORM DRAIN PIPES.

SO THOSE ARE FOUR SECTIONS THAT WE HAVE.

UH, TRENCHLESS OPERATIONS.

THAT'S JUST A MORE COST EFFECTIVE WAY TO INSTALL THE PIPELINE IF YOU CAN'T PHYSICALLY OPEN, CUT AN AREA FOR EITHER SENSITIVE AREAS FOR, FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL STANDPOINT OR INFRASTRUCTURES LIKE A, A TRACK AND THEN THE REST IS OPEN CUT.

SO TYPICAL TRENCHING, EXCAVATION AND BACKFILLING.

SO THIS IS PART OF THE, UH, EASEMENTS THAT WE NEED.

'CAUSE IT'S GONNA DISRUPT THE PARKING AREAS IN IN SOME OF THOSE BUSINESSES.

UM, AND YOU SAID THERE'S A NEED FOR EASEMENTS.

IS THERE ANY POSSIBLE ROADBLOCKS LITERALLY, OR LEGAL THINGS ABOUT GETTING THESE EASEMENTS FROM ALL THESE COMPANIES OR, OR WE ALREADY HAVE AGREEMENTS.

SO THE, ON THE TC, SO TO ANSWER IT'S A TWO PART QUESTION.

PARTIALLY ON THE TCES, THEY'RE NOT A A MUST HAVE, THEY'RE A NICE, HAVE LIKE AN EXAMPLE HERE ON THE, THE ONE ON THE SLIDE, IT'S WE COULD WORK WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE EXISTING EASEMENT IF WE FOUND WE COULDN'T REACH AN AGREEMENT WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER TO ACQUIRE THE TCE.

SO FOR SIMPLICITY, FOR NOT SIMPLICITY BUT TO MAKE CONSTRUCTION MORE REAL, PRACTICAL, REALISTIC AND COST EFFECTIVE FROM AN ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION STANDPOINT, WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO ACQUIRE THE TCES.

THOSE ARE JUST FOR MORE PRACTICALITY AND TO HAVE ROOM TO DO CONSTRUCTION.

SO IF THERE WERE A ROADBLOCK AS YOU MENTIONED AND WE COULD NOT REACH AN AGREEMENT, I THINK WE HAVE THE LEGAL ROUTES FOR EMINENT DOMAIN BUT WE'RE, THAT'S NOT ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T COME TO THAT POINT.

OUT OF NINE TCES, THERE'S THREE THAT HAVE BEEN SIGNED, OTHER THREE THAT ARE BEING REVEALED AND TO BE SIGNED BY THE PROPERTY OWNERS.

AND THE OTHER ONES, MOST OF THE, A LOT OF THE NEGOTIATIONS IF YOU WILL ARE AREN'T ON ACTUAL COST.

THEY'RE PRIMARILY ON HOW CAN WE HELP OFFSET THE IMPACTS DURING CONSTRUCTION.

SO TO SOME OF THE PROPERTIES, WE ACTUALLY ARE GONNA DO NIGHT WORK BECAUSE WE WOULD BE IMPACTING TOO MUCH OF THEIR DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS.

SO WE TOOK THAT INTO ACCOUNT AND SAID THAT MAKES SENSE.

IT'S NOT POSSIBLE FOR BOTH OF US TO BE USING THE PROPERTY AT THE SAME TIME.

WE'LL DO NIGHT WORK THAT WE AGREED TO IT AND WE MOVED ON.

AS FAR AS EASEMENTS, MARINA APARTMENTS ARE IS THE ONLY PROPERTY, SO IT'S ACTUALLY A PUBLIC AGENCY AS WELL.

IT'S THE CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY TRUST THAT OWNS IT.

AND THEY'VE BEEN GREAT PARTNERS.

THEY'VE ALREADY SENT US THE EASEMENT DOCUMENT THAT THEY USE.

OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TEAM REVEALED THAT IT'S, THEY EVEN ADMIRED HOW FAIR OF AN AGREEMENT IT WAS THAT WE SHOULD TAKE THAT AND PERHAPS USE IN THE FUTURE.

SO WE HAVEN'T ENCOUNTERED ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE A ROADBLOCK.

AND THE ONLY ONES THAT TO KIND OF CLOSE MY THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE A MUST FOR US TO DELIVER THE PROJECT WOULD BE PERMANENT EASEMENTS.

AND SO FAR WITH THOSE WE HAVE ACQUIRED IT FROM SMART, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF ACQUIRING FROM SMART AND WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF ACQUIRING FROM THE MARINA APARTMENTS AS WELL.

SO IT'S BEEN A SUCCESS SO FAR.

ALRIGHT, GOOD.

JUST WANTED TO CHECK IN, UH, THE EXTRA WORK THAT HAS TO GET DONE TO GET THIS ALL DONE.

UH, THANK YOU FOR DOING ALL THAT.

SO THE EXACT ROUTE, IS IT UH, GOING THROUGH THE, THE USING THE D**E AND THEN AT THE BASE OF THE D**E? OR IS IT COMING INTO THE LOWER AREAS? IT VARIES A LITTLE.

UH, DO YOU HAPPEN HAVE A SLIDE SHOWING WHERE THE, UH, IN ELLIS CREEK? UH, 'CAUSE I'VE, I'VE GOT, UH, WITH THE NONPROFIT I WORK WITH, THEY'RE OUT THERE VERY OFTEN, ALMOST DAILY, SOME OF THEM.

UM, AND AND IS THE PIPELINE, UH, GONNA GO UNDERNEATH THE ACTUAL DIKES OR IS IT GONNA BE GOING THROUGH THE LOWER ELEVATIONS? COULD DO YOU HAVE A DIAGRAM SHOWING EXACTLY WHERE IT'S GOING? SO I CAN TELL THESE FOLKS.

UM, WE DO AS PART OF THE PLANS, WE ON THE, ON THE, YOU CAN GO ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE.

IT'S NOT GONNA SHOW ANYTHING TOO CLOSELY.

BUT SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, I ASSUME FURTHER THERE JUST THE END OF THE RED SECTION OF THE ALIGNMENT AS YOU'RE GOING BETWEEN THE, I'M JUST GOING THROUGH THE, THE MOUSE BETWEEN THE POLISHING WEAPONS AS IT TRANSIT YEAH.

AS IT TRANSITIONS, UM, THROUGH THAT AREA.

UM,

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I I CAN, WE DO HAVE THE PLAN AND HOW DEEP WE'RE GONNA GO AND EXACTLY WHERE WE'RE GONNA GO.

IT FOLLOWS FOR THE MOST PART 'CAUSE WE WERE LOOKING AT THAT RECENTLY, THE TRAIL, NOT AT ALL TIMES BECAUSE THERE'S A, THERE WAS A BALANCE THAT WE HAD TO DO BETWEEN THE PRACTICAL AREA THAT'S LIKE STABLE FOR A TRENCHING OPERATION WHILE STAYING AWAY FROM ACTUAL LIKE WETLANDS, NOT ELLIS CREEK WETLANDS, BUT SEASONAL WETLANDS THAT ARE MORE FROM A WATERBOARD AND CALIFORNIA FISH WILDLIFE SENSITIVE AREAS.

SO WE HAD TO DO A DANCE OF AVOIDING THOSE AREAS WHILE MAKING SURE WE'RE NOT ALSO IMPACTING INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE.

SO WE FOLLOW THE TRAIL FOR THE MOST PART, BUT IT'S NOT A A PRECISE SO I JUST, SORRY, WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE ABSTRACT.

SO CAN I SUGGEST THAT MM-HMM .

YOU CLIP THAT PLAN SHEET, ANNOTATE IT SLIGHTLY AND ADD IT TO THE AGENDA AS THE, OF THE LAST ATTACHMENT HERE.

RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY.

JUST SO I CAN SHARE IT WITH, WITH MY CONTINGENCY.

UM, COUNCIL MEMBER CATER THOMPSON.

I JUST HAVE UM, JUST A QUICK QUESTION.

SO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TRAIL, IS THAT FROM SCHOENBERGER PARK TO ELLIS CREEK? THAT TRAIL IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? YEAH.

SO IS IT ON THE TRAIL OR, OR TO IT'S ALL STUFF FROM THE TRAIL.

SO, SO IT'S BELOW THE TRAIL FOR THE MOST PART.

IT DOES, LIKE I MENTIONED, WE DO HAVE SOME DODGES THAT YOU STEER AWAY FROM IT.

IT'S HARD TO SEE ON THE VISUAL THAT I HAVE.

SO I THINK THE SHEETS THAT I CAN FOLLOW UP WITH WITH CLARIFY, BUT FOR THE MOST PART IT FOLLOWS THE TRAIL THAT THE WALKING TRAIL THAT WE HAVE.

SO IS THERE GONNA BE ANY IMPROVEMENTS ON THE TRAIL BECAUSE IT FLOODS IN THE WINTERTIME? NOTHING THAT WOULD LOOK DIFFERENT THAN THE, THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW.

I'M HAPPY TO MOVE THIS.

UH, LET'S GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT AND, AND UM, AND UH, DID WE HAVE ANY UH, COMMENT ON THIS? WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM AND I DO NOT HAVE ANY CARDS YET, BUT THIS IS THE MOMENT AND SEEING UH, NO ONE STEPPING FORWARD WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AND BRING IT BACK.

I'LL MOVE THIS AND WE HAVE A, A MOTION BY CATER THOMPSON.

I'LL SECOND.

WE'RE GONNA SAY SECOND BY NOW.

AND MAY WE HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.

MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

SEVEN, UH, WHICH IS THE PROPOSED FISCAL YEAR 26, 27 CITY OF PETALUMA BUDGET, ADOPTING THE CITY'S BUDGET RESOLUTION, ADOPTING A RESOLUTION, UPDATING THE FULL TIME AUTHORIZED AND FUNDED POSITION SCHEDULE, AND AN INTRODUCTION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH LUCAS.

GREAT PRESENTATION.

THANK.

AND NOW WE MOVE TO ITEM

[7. Proposed Fiscal Year 2026-2027 City of Petaluma Budget, Adoption of City Budget Resolution, Adopt a Resolution Updating the Full-Time Authorized and Funded Position Schedule, and Introduction (First Reading) of Fiscal Year 2026-2027 City Appropriations Ordinance]

FIRST READING OF THE FISCAL YEAR 27 CITY APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE.

TO HELP US WITH THAT, WE HAVE CORY GARBER, UH, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TO WALK US THROUGH.

THANK YOU MAYOR MCDONALD AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

EACH YEAR THE BUDGET MUST BE PRESENTED BY FUND DEPARTMENT AND PREPARED AND SUBMITTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

BY THE FIRST MEETING IN MAY, THE PROPOSED BUDGET WAS DELIVERED TO YOU AT THE MEETING HELD ON MAY 4TH, FOLLOWED BY A BUDGET WORKSHOP HELD ON MAY 11TH WHERE WE WENT OVER THE BUDGET DOCUMENT BASED ON YOUR FEEDBACK.

UM, AT THE WORKSHOP, WE HAVE MADE ONE CHANGE TO THE FISCAL YEAR 27 BUDGET BEFORE BRINGING IT TO YOU THIS EVENING.

WE'VE INCREASED THE FUNDING FOR THE DOWNTOWN BATHROOM PROJECT, UM, FROM 180,000 TO 350,000, UM, TO PROVIDE, TO PROVIDE SUFFICIENT FUNDING TO BRING THE PROJECT TO COMPLETION.

THAT PROJECT IS FUNDED BY, UM, PETALUMA TOURISM IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT REVENUES IN THE CURRENT YEAR.

AND ADDITIONAL FUNDING IS SET ASIDE IN FISCAL YEAR 28.

NO OTHER CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE.

ANY OTHER RECOMMENDED GRAPHICAL UM, EDITS WILL APPEAR IN THE FINAL BUDGET DOCUMENT.

THE BUDGET BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING TOTAL IS 400.5 MILLION ACROSS ALL FUNDS, OF WHICH 85.3 MILLION IS FOR THE GENERAL FUND AND IS COMMITTED TO FURTHERING GOALS AND PRIOR PRIORITIES THAT YOU HAVE SET.

SO WITH THAT TONIGHT WE ARE RECOMMENDING THE CITY COUNCIL CONSIDER THE RECOMMENDED FISCAL YEAR 26, 27 BUDGET, ADOPT THE RESOLUTIONS, AUTHORIZING THOSE BUDGETS AND INTRODUCE THE APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE AND STAFF ARE HERE AVAILABLE, UM, TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

ANY QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS? I DID HAVE UH, TWO QUICK, UH, QUESTIONS IF I COULD.

UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE TIGHT BUDGET YEAR THIS YEAR AND UM, I THINK WE'RE ALL FEELING THE STRESS OF IT.

UH, WHEN DO WE SEE YOU AGAIN? SO YOU'LL SEE ME AT THE FIRST QUARTER, UM, BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS.

SO THAT'S, UM, LIKELY IN SEPTEMBER-ISH.

UNTIL UM, DECEMBER, BUT IF WE HAVE UM, AN UPDATE THAT WE CAN PROVIDE AT THE FIRST QUARTER, THAT WORKS AS WELL.

AND THEN THE SECOND PART IS, UM, DO WE GET A, UH, AN, AN UPDATE ON THE CLOSURE OF 26? I THINK THAT IS THERE A MEETING THAT ADDRESSES THAT? WE NORMALLY, UM, BRING THAT FORWARD WITH A MID-YEAR.

SO THAT WOULDN'T HAPPEN

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OKAY, THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS AND SEEING NO OTHER QUESTIONS, LET'S OPEN IT TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

WE DID HAVE TWO COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM AND THOSE ARE POSTED ONLINE AND I DO HAVE ONE CARD IF THERE'S ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT A CARD TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

NOW IS THE MOMENT.

DARREN ZEN.

THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL CITY CLERK.

I'LL WAIT FOR MY THREE MINUTES TO NOT GONNA STEAL THE EXTRA TIME HERE.

HERE WE GO.

UH, SO REALLY QUICK, WANNA DO A SUMMARY OF MY COMMENTS FROM LAST TIME AND REALLY LEAVE THE SALIENT QUESTIONS THAT I'M NOT SURE CAME THROUGH AND KIND OF ALL THE INFORMATION I WAS SPITTING OUT.

AND I THINK THE, THE CORE CONCERN OF MY OR NOT CONCERN, JUST THE CORE THING I WAS LOOKING AT WHEN LOOKING AT THE BUDGET WAS RIGHT NOW OUR UH, INTERNAL IT COSTS ARE ABOUT FOUR TO 4.5 MILLION A YEAR.

AS PART OF THAT NUMBER FOR THE PAST COUPLE FISCAL YEARS INCLUDES TYLER EDEN TECHNOLOGIES ABOUT 300 KA YEAR TO KEEP THE CURRENT ERP SYSTEM GOING.

AND THAT'S LIKE THE BEHIND THE SCENES UTILITY BILLING, MANAGING BENEFITS, EMPLOYEE TIME TRACKING, STUFF LIKE THAT.

UH, SO WE'VE BEEN PAYING AN OLD VENDOR 300 KA YEAR AS PART OF THIS FOUR TO 4.5 MILLION IT BUDGET.

AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT WE'VE BEEN IMPLEMENTING A NEW ERP FOR LIKE ONE AND A HALF OR 2 MILLION A YEAR.

AND I THINK THE BIG THING WAS FIRST OF ALL, LIKE HOW CLOSE ARE WE TO BEING COMPLETE? IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GONNA HAVE A TWO VENDOR SOLUTION, ONE FOR UTILITIES, ONE FOR FINANCE, AND IT SOUND IT FROM THE BUDGET DOCUMENT IT SOUNDED LIKE SPRY POINT WAS THE UTILITY SOLUTION.

AND SO DO WE HAVE A SOLUTION IN PLACE FOR THE FINANCE SIDE? BECAUSE I THINK ORIGINALLY, UH, THE PAST DIRECTOR JESSICA G***H WAS KIND OF SPEARHEADING IT AND SHE WAS IN FINANCE.

SO I'M CURIOUS WHERE THAT EFFORT STANDS.

AND THEN FOR THE TYLER EDEN COMPONENT, THE EXISTING VENDOR WHO WE STILL HAVE TO PAY 'CAUSE WE STILL NEED AN ERP.

UM, DOES THAT EXPIRE IN JUNE? I THOUGHT THAT, I THINK THAT WAS THE TIMELINE FROM PAST BUDGETS WAS THE END OF FISCAL YEAR 25, 26 THAT WRAPS UP.

UM, SO AGAIN, IN THE EFFORT TO FIND THINGS THAT ARE LIKE WITHIN OUR CONTROL, THINGS WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO TIGHTEN UP ON OR MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING WHERE WE'RE RIGHT ON TRACK AND WE'RE ABOUT TO HAVE THAT COST MOVED OFF THE BOOKS WITH A SUCCESSFUL IMPLEMENTATION.

BUT JUST WANTED TO SUMMARIZE THAT AGAIN.

WE HAVE ONE MORE CARD.

DON FOREMAN.

HI EVERYONE.

UM, DIDN'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT TO SAY.

YOU GUYS HAVE GOT EMAILS FROM ME OVER THE YEARS, AND I DON'T WANNA WASTE A WHOLE LOT OF YOUR TIME, BUT WE DO NEED THE BATHROOM STILL.

SEE NEO GOV THERE, BUT THEY ALSO PROVIDE A VARIETY OF HR MANAGEMENT PRODUCTS.

UM, AND THAT CLOSES PUBLIC COMMENT AND I BRING IT UP TO COUNCIL.

AND, UM, YEAH, I, I'D LIKE TO ASK STAFF IF WE COULD, UH, UH, HEAR A LITTLE, UH, THE STATUS OF ERP.

I KNOW I'VE DONE ONE OF THESE AT A MAJOR MUNICIPAL AGENCY, AND, UM, THEY'RE DIFFICULT, WOULD BE THE KINDEST THING TO SAY.

UM, SO WHAT'S OUR CURRENT STATUS? THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

UH, HAPPY TO PROVIDE A BRIEF UPDATE.

SO WE DID LET THE INITIAL CONTRACTS FOR OUR ERP, UH, SOFTWARE INSTALLATION IN THE FALL OF 24, A, UH, CADRE OF CITY STAFF, AS WELL AS A CONSULTING STAFF THAT WERE, UH, WE HIRED TO IMPLEMENT.

THAT PROJECT BEGAN IN EARNEST IN DECEMBER OF 24.

UH, WORKED THROUGH THE EARLY PARTS OF THE PROJECT, WHICH YOU TYPICALLY, UH, WOULD BE DOING ALL OF YOUR PROCESS MAPPING, DOCUMENTING ALL OF YOUR EXISTING PROCESSES, UH, CLEANING YOUR DATA, AND, UH, IMPORTING OR EXPORTING THE DATA OUT OF THE OLD SYSTEM.

SO WE DID A LOT OF THAT WORK INITIALLY IN THE FIRST HALF OF 2025.

UH, WE SUBSEQUENTLY, WE DECIDED TO TAKE A BIT OF A PAUSE FOR, UH, SEVERAL DIFFERENT REASONS, BUT WE LOOKED AT THE IMPLEMENTATION SCHEDULE, THE IMPACT ON STAFF.

IT WAS VERY FAST IMPLEMENTATION OVERALL, AND DECIDED TO, UH, KIND OF SLOW IT DOWN AND TAKE IT IN SOME PIECES.

SO SOME THINGS HAVE BEEN GOING ON IN THE BACKGROUND.

UH, THERY POINT THAT WAS REFERENCED, UH, EARLIER, THAT IS THE UTILITY BILLING SOFTWARE THAT IS BEING IMPLEMENTED AND BEING ACTIVELY WORKED ON.

SO OUR UTILITIES AND FINANCE STAFF ARE VERY CLOSE TO GOING LIVE WITH THAT PROJECT.

AND I THINK OUR RESIDENTS AND UTILITY CUSTOMERS WILL SEE THAT THIS SUMMER, UH, GOING ONLINE AND BEING ACTIVE.

WE ALSO, UH, CONTINUED MOVING FORWARD WITH SOME OF THE HUMAN RESOURCES MODULES, WHICH IS ACTUALLY IN A DIFFERENT VENDOR SOFTWARE CALLED NEO GOV.

UH, WE HAVE AN EXISTING AGREEMENT WITH 'EM TO DO RECRUITMENT MANAGEMENT, SO IF YOU GO ON OUR JOBS PAGE, YOU'LL

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AND SO WE'VE GONE LIVE ALREADY WITH A COUPLE OF THOSE ADDITIONAL MODULES FOR OUR HR MANAGEMENT, AND WE HAVE A FEW MORE THAT WE WILL ALSO BE IMPLEMENTING, UH, OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS, SEVERAL MONTHS.

THE, UH, THE LARGER FINANCIALS PROJECT.

WE ARE, UH, LOOKING AT THAT MORE CLOSELY TO SEE WHAT THE BEST PATH FORWARD IS, INCLUDING, UH, WE'RE STILL IN CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR EXISTING VENDOR, TYLER, UM, ABOUT THE STATUS OF OUR OLD LEGACY SOFTWARE EDEN, AS WELL AS WHAT THEIR NEWER SOFTWARE WOULD LOOK LIKE IF WE WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.

UH, HAVE NOT COME TO ANY CONCLUSIONS YET ON THAT, BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT WHAT THE BEST PATH FORWARD IS AND, UH, STAY TUNED BECAUSE WE WILL BE BACK IF WE, UH, NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, WITH SOMETHING ON THE TYLER FRONT.

BUT, SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THE MODULES THAT WE FELT WOULD BEST SERVE US IN THE SHORT TERM WHILE LOOKING AT THE LONGER HORIZON, UH, FOR THE, THE, THE BIGGER FINANCIAL PACKAGE.

UH, VICE MAYOR.

UM, I'VE GOT A QUESTION, WELL, THREE QUESTIONS ABOUT IT SINCE WE'RE TALKING.

UM, WHAT, WHAT IS THE EXPECTED SAVINGS WITH THE NEW SOFTWARE? UH, HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE TO PAY THAT OFF? AND THEN WHAT IS KIND OF THE EXPECTED, USEFUL LIFE OF IT BEFORE WE GO GET NEW SOFTWARE OR A NEW PROGRAM? YEAH, SO ON THE FIRST QUESTION, UM, IF WE DO MOVE TO A TYLER PRODUCT, WHICH IS OUR EXISTING VENDOR, WE DO EXPECT A SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS.

I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THAT QUANTIFIED DOWN TO THE DOLLAR YET, BUT IT WILL BE SUBSTANTIAL COMPARED TO THE FULL SUITE THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT.

UH, WITH THE, WITH THE OTHER, IS THERE AN APPROXIMATE NUMBER? UM, I'M JUST THROWING OUT OVER A MILLION DOLLARS, BUT AGAIN, WE NEED TO ACTUALLY DIAL IN WHICH SPECIFIC MODULES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND WHAT THE LONG-TERM COSTS OF THOSE ARE, BECAUSE WITH ALMOST ALL OF THESE PACKAGES, THERE'S OF COURSE THE UPFRONT IMPLEMENTATION COST, BUT THEN THERE'S ALSO THE ONGOING SUBSCRIPTION COST THAT YOU'RE PAYING EVERY SINGLE YEAR.

SO, UH, WE DO HAVE SOME NUMBERS, BUT WE'RE, AGAIN, WE'RE STILL IN ACTIVE CONVERSATION WITH TYLER ABOUT WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

SO WE DON'T QUITE HAVE FINALIZED NUMBERS FOR YOU AT THIS POINT.

AND THEN, I'M SORRY, YOU HAD A, YOU HAD ANOTHER FOLLOW UP AS YEAH, I WAS, UH, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW LONG IS IT GONNA TAKE TO PAY THAT OFF THIS SWITCH OVER, AND THEN HOW LONG DO WE EXPECT THAT SYSTEM TO BE IN PLACE FOR? SO WE HAVE ALREADY FACTORED ALL OF THE ERP COSTS INTO THE BUDGET.

UM, AND IN FACT, WE'RE, WE'RE ACTUALLY ANTICIPATING SOME OF THIS SAVINGS.

SO THAT'S BEEN, WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY IT OFF, SO TO SPEAK.

WE HAVE, WE HAVE WORKED THAT INTO THE OVERALL BUDGET PICTURE.

UM, BUT I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, NOT, NOT BEING AN IT PROFESSIONAL MYSELF, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE GOTTEN AT LEAST 15 YEARS, I WOULD SAY, OUT OF, OUT OF OUR EXISTING SOFTWARE.

SO WE WOULD HOPE THAT WE CAN GET, YOU KNOW, A DECADE OR SO, UH, OUT OF A NEW SYSTEM AT, AT A MINIMUM.

YEAH, I WANT TO COMMEND JOHN, UM, STAFF ON GETTING INVOLVED IN THIS BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A CHALLENGE TO TRANSITION FROM OLD SYSTEMS, BUT I KNOW THE OLD SYSTEMS NO LONGER ACHIEVE WHAT YOU, YOU WANTED, AND THE NEW SYSTEMS PROVIDE INCREASED FUNCTIONALITY AND SERVICE, AND THAT'S LIKE HUGE.

THE INTEGRATION OF VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS TOGETHER IS, UM, REALLY COOL.

I HATE THAT WE HAVE TO SANDBOX TWO SYSTEMS SIMULTANEOUSLY.

YOU HAVE TO KEEP RUNNING YOUR OLD WHILE BA IT HAS ALL YOUR NEW, SO IT'S NO WONDER THAT THERE'S AN OVERLAPPING PERIOD.

AND, AND, UH, WE SEE THAT IN ALL THAT MEANS STAFF RESOURCE DOING TWO THINGS DURING THAT TRANSITION PERIOD.

SO, UH, I THINK, UH, THE WAY YOU'VE DESCRIBED SCHEDULING MAKES A LOT OF SENSE THERE.

APPRECIATE THAT CLARITY.

AND WE'VE DONE PUBLIC COMMENT.

WE'VE HAD, UH, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT, UH, ANSWERED, AND I NOW COUNCIL MEMBER BARNICLE.

YEAH, ON THE, THE PRIOR BUDGET, WE WERE JUST A FEW DOLLARS SHORT OF A PUBLIC RESTROOM.

UM, IS THERE, WAS THERE ANY ABILITY TO SQUEAK OUT ANYTHING AND MOVE UP THE TIMELINE FOR THAT TO SEE IF WE CAN GET IT DONE? SO, UM, I, I BELIEVE IN COREY'S, UM, REPORT, SHE MENTIONED THAT WE INCREASED IT TO 350.

THE OVERALL BUDGET, UM, FROM 180 INCREASED FROM 180 TO THREE 50.

JONATHAN TO SEE ON LEAD TIME WHAT WE FOUND WHEN WE DID THE INITIAL, UM, UH, DESIGN AND RESEARCH, BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE LIMITING FACTOR ON LEAD TIME.

AND THEN IN TERMS OF TIMELINE THERE, WE FEEL LIKE NOW WE'VE GOT THE MONEY, DO WE HAVE THE, UM, STAFF ALLOCATED TO IT TO GET IT DONE? UH, WE WILL BE ALLOCATING STAFF TO IT NOW THAT WE HAVE THE INCREASED BUDGET, UM, TO BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

SO I THINK IN THE, IN THE INITIAL PROPOSAL, WE HAD IT KIND OF FINALIZED DESIGN AND THEN LOOK FOR ADDITIONAL BUDGET, RIGHT, TO ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT NOW THAT WE, WE, WITH THE THREE 50, UH, WE BELIEVE WE CAN DELIVER IT, UM, WITH THAT AMOUNT.

SO WE'RE GONNA SIGN STAFF TO IT, FINALIZE THE DESIGN AND PUT IT OUT.

I THINK WHAT LIMITS US, AND I DON'T KNOW, WHAT WE FOUND, AND I'LL LOOK OVER TO

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DO YOU KNOW ROUGHLY SIX TO NINE MONTHS? SIX.

SO SIX TO NINE MONTHS.

I MEAN, WE'LL, IT'LL TAKE US PROBABLY A COUPLE MONTHS TO GET OUR DUCKS IN ORDER.

UM, PUT SOMETHING OUT TO BID TO PROCURE IT.

SO I THINK YOU'RE STILL LOOKING AT 10 TO 12 MONTHS JUST BASED ON THAT.

NOW, IF IT'S SHORTER, WE'LL IMPLEMENT IT FASTER AND WE'LL LOOK AT ALTERNATIVES, BUT, UM, IN SHORT, WE'LL MOVE FORWARD AND, UH, PROVIDE AN UPDATE.

BE, UM, IT WOULD BE AMAZING TO CHECK THAT OFF THE LIST THIS YEAR.

I JUST WANNA SAY THAT.

AND, UM, IF WE NEED TO PUT THE ORDER IN RIGHT NOW SO THAT WE HAVE IT IN SIX TO NINE MONTHS, AND THEN WE CAN GET IT DONE.

LET'S, LET'S DO IT.

I DON'T THINK IT'S, IT'S SORT OF A, A NO REGRET, NO REGRET PURCHASE AT, AT THIS POINT, AS FAR AS I CAN TELL.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER.

NOW, UM, PAUL, CAN I HAVE YOU FOR JUST A QUICK QUESTION.

WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR A NEW MODERN FACILITY FOR PEOPLE TO RELIEVE THEMSELVES DOWNTOWN, CAN WE NEGOTIATE WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER FOR A SIX MONTH RENTAL AGREEMENT? I KNOW THERE'S A NEW BUSINESS GOING INTO THE, TO THE BUILDING AND MAYBE WORK WITH HIM.

IS IT A POSSIBILITY? THANK YOU.

BRIAN.

O, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

UM, SO I DID TALK TO THE OWNER.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS HE HAS ALREADY, UM, LEASED IT OUT AS PART OF THE EXPANSION FOR THE, UM, SOON TO BE COFFEE SHOP.

AND SO THERE'S ALREADY PLANS TO USE IT AS ESSENTIALLY STORAGE.

UM, AND SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MORE WE WOULD PURSUE THAT AT THIS POINT.

THAT'S TOO BAD THAT WE CAN'T NEGOTIATE SOME SORT OF A RENTAL AGREEMENT, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S ONLY GONNA BE USED FOR STORAGE BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT THERE IN DOWNTOWN PUTNAM PLAZA.

AND I AM A SIX MONTH, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST TO RENT PUBLIC BATHROOM SPACE, BUT DO YOU NEED US TO MAKE SOME PHONE CALLS? , IF WE, AGAIN, IF WE HAD A WILLING OWNER, AGAIN, THIS WAS LAST WEEK THAT I FOLLOWED UP, AND, UM, IF IT ISN'T ALREADY BEING USED FOR STORAGE, IT'S, YOU KNOW, ABOUT TO HAPPEN.

I'LL SEE IF I CAN'T MAKE SOME PHONE CALLS AND MAYBE A BOTTLE OF WINE.

I DON'T KNOW.

, .

WELL, THANK YOU.

AND A FOLLOW UP QUESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER QUINN, JUST A CRAZY IDEA.

WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO CHECK WITH THE NEW TENANTS TO SEE IF THEY WOULD SUBLEASE IT? NOT A CRAZY IDEA.

I I MEAN, AGAIN, WE HAVE CONTACT, WE'RE GETTING THE, UH, IT'S A BROTHER AND SISTER, UM, THROUGH A VERY, I I ACTUALLY BELIEVE THEY ALREADY HAVE THEIR BUILDING PERMITS.

AND SO WE DO HAVE THAT AND PROBABLY DOESN'T HURT TO ASK, SO BE HAPPY TO DO SO.

I WOULD JUST NOTE THAT WE WOULD NEED TO FIGURE OUT BUDGET, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT SHAPE THAT, THAT THOSE BATHROOMS ARE IN AT THIS POINT.

AND IF THEY'RE GONNA BE USING IT FOR STORAGE, IT MAKES ME THINK THAT THERE'S PROBABLY SOME DEMO WORK THAT'S OCCURRED.

SO THAT WOULD TAKE AWAY FROM OUR CURRENT BUDGET.

SO JUST BALANCING.

UM, AND, UM, IT'S, UH, NOT LOST ON COUNCIL THAT, UH, UM, THAT IN A $400 MILLION BUDGET, THE, UH, CRITICAL ITEM IS ONE DOWNTOWN BATHROOM.

THAT'S I THINK A LOT OF CREDIT TO THE PUBLIC, UH, PERSEVERANCE ON THAT ONE.

AND, UH, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

AND THAT IS FOR, UM, SEVERAL PARTS FOR THE, THERE'S SEVERAL PARTS NEEDED IN HERE, WHICH ARE THE, UH, RESOLUTION FOR THE, UM, UM, POSITION SCHEDULE AND ALSO THE FIRST READING, UH, THE APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE.

TWO MOTIONS.

OR I MEAN, ONE MOTION FOR THOSE TWO ITEMS. AND THAT'S, UH, THE MOTION BY CATER THOMPSON.

AND I'LL SECOND AND A SECOND BY NOW.

AND ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.

SURE.

JUST WANNA CLARIFY.

THAT'S THE ADOPTION OF THE TWO RESOLUTIONS AND THE INTRODUCTION OF THE ORDINANCE, RIGHT? OKAY.

MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

OKAY, GOT THAT.

UM, BARNACLE, HI, CATER THOMPSON? YES.

STAFF, EVERYBODY.

I MEAN, I GUESS THAT'S THE WHOLE COMPANY, ISN'T IT? THE BUDGET.

EIGHT, WHICH IS, UH, TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING, RECEIVE PUBLIC COMMENT, AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK AND ADOPT RESOLUTIONS DIRECTING STAFF TO PREPARE A FINAL IMPACT REPORT, AN ASSOCIATED FINAL GENERAL PLAN FOR ADOPTION.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM

[8. Conduct a Public Hearing, Receive Public Comment, Provide Feedback, and Adopt Resolutions Directing Staff to Prepare a Final Environmental Impact Report and the Associated Final General Plan for Adoption]

UH, TO HELP US WITH THIS, WE HAVE OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT

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DIRECTOR, BRIAN O AND HEATHER HINES, UH, SPECIAL PROJECTS MANAGER AND FRIENDS, UM, WHO, UM, WE APPRECIATE SEEING YOU ALL AGAIN, AND WE'LL GIVE YOU A MINUTE NOW TO, UH, SET, SET ON.

I'M THINKING THERE'S GONNA BE A MINUTE TO YES.

TO, TO.

SO, MAYOR, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO BEGIN? YES, PLEASE.

OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.

COUNCIL MEMBERS, UM, HEATHER HINES, SPECIAL PROJECTS MANAGER.

UM, I AM JUST GONNA RUN THROUGH SOME OF THE INTRODUCTORY SLIDES.

AND FIRST I WANNA INTRODUCE YOU TO OUR TEAM, UM, WHICH WE'RE PROBABLY FAMILIAR.

I THINK WE HAVE TALLIED IT UP AND WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR THE GENERAL PLAN 15 TIMES, 15 TIMES BEFORE THE COUNCIL.

UM, SO HOPEFULLY WE LOOK FAMILIAR.

UM, I AM HERE WITH BRIAN O, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, OLIVIA IRVIN, PRINCIPAL, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNER, RON WHITMORE, WHO IS, UM, A PRINCIPAL WITH, UM, ALTA PLANNING, FORMERLY RAMEY, UM, AND MATT MADDOX, WHO IS PRINCIPAL WITH RING CON.

SO WE ARE REALLY THRILLED TO BE HERE, UH, THIS EVENING, AND THIS IS A VERY EXCITING MILESTONE TO BE HERE, UH, TO HAVE THE DRAFT GENERAL PLAN AND THE DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT, UM, BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.

SO, PURPOSE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT IS REALLY, UM, TO CONDUCT THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, ON BOTH THE GENERAL PLAN AND THE DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT.

THIS EVENING'S MEETING WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD ON, UM, THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT, UH, WHICH IS A 45 DAY PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW, AND WE HAVE EXCEEDED THAT.

I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER OF DAYS, BUT IT'S A SLIGHTLY MORE THAN 45.

UM, BOTH THE GENERAL PLAN AND THE DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT WERE RELEASED ON MARCH 27TH.

UM, SO WE'RE HERE, UH, TO PRESENT AND RECEIVE FEEDBACK FROM THE CITY COUNCIL, BOTH ON THE DRAFT GENERAL PLAN AND DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT.

AND BEFORE YOU ARE TWO RESOLUTIONS.

ONE, A RESOLUTION DIRECTING STAFF TO PREPARE THE FINAL EIR, AND THE OTHER ONE, A RESOLUTION DIRECTING STAFF TO PREPARE THE FINAL DRAFT GENERAL PLAN FOR ADOPTION.

UM, THIS HAS BEEN ONE OF THE, UH, MOST IN DEPTH, UM, UH, AND, AND MOST HEAVILY COMMUNITY DRIVEN PUBLIC, UH, PLANNING PROCESSES THAT I'M AWARE OF.

UH, SO THIS GOES THROUGH, UM, BASICALLY WHAT, WHAT WE'RE GONNA RUN THROUGH THIS EVENING.

A, UH, PRESENTATION WAS PUBLISHED ONLINE WITH THE AGENDA PACKET.

THE PRESENTATION THIS EVENING IS SLIGHTLY ABBREVIATED FROM WHAT IS ONLINE.

UM, BUT, UM, THIS REALLY, UM, TAKES YOU THROUGH THIS IS, UH, LARGELY THE SAME PRESENTATION THAT WE DID WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, AT THE END OF, UH, APRIL.

SO, UM, WITH THAT, I AM GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO RON, UH, TO GET THINGS STARTED.

GREAT.

THANK YOU HEATHER.

AND GOOD EVENING COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, GREAT TO SEE YOU AGAIN, AND VERY EXCITED TO BE HERE AT THIS MOMENT IN WHAT HAS BEEN A VERY ROBUST, UM, BOTH ANALYTICAL AND PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT EXERCISE, GETTING US TO THIS POINT.

UM, AS HEATHER MENTIONED, WE'RE GONNA PRESENT JUST AN ABBREVIATED VERSION OF THE, UH, FOLDER PRESENTATION THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKET.

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UM, NOT GONNA BORE YOU WITH A LOT OF THE DETAILS, BUT IT'S BEEN THROUGH A MULTI-PHASE PROCESS, STARTING WITH, UH, COMMUNITY DRIVEN EFFORT FOR CLEARLY ESTABLISHING, UH, VISION PILLARS AND GUIDING PRINCIPLES THAT HAVE BEEN THE, THE GUIDING FORCE FOR EVERYTHING WE'VE DONE SINCE THEN.

AND AT THE SAME TIME, DOING AN EXTENSIVE EX SET OF EXISTING CONDITIONS REPORTS, AND THEN WENT THROUGH A ROBUST PROCESS OF IDENTIFYING AND THROUGH VETTING POLICY, WHICH I'LL TOUCH ON A LITTLE BIT IN MORE DETAIL IN A SECOND.

AND DURING THAT TIME, AND AS PART OF THAT, ALSO, UH, DEVELOPED AND ADOPTED A, A HOUSING ELEMENT, THE SIX CYCLE HOUSING ELEMENT, EXCUSE ME, AND BEING THE PROGRESSIVE CITY THAT IT IS, PETALUMA ALSO, UM, CONTRACTED FOR SOME PETALUMA SPECIFIC FLOOD MODELING, UM, THAT, UH, PROVIDED AN EXTREMELY HELPFUL TECHNICAL FOUNDATION, UM, FOR NOT JUST THE FLOOD RESILIENCE FRAMEWORK OR, OR ELEMENT THAT YOU FIND IN THE DRAFT GENERAL PLAN, BUT ALSO INFORM MANY OTHER POLICIES IN BOTH THE SAFETY AND LAND USE ELEMENT.

UM, ALSO DURING THAT TIME, UM, THE COMMUNITY REAFFIRMED ITS COMMITMENT TO THE URBAN GROWTH BOUNDARY THROUGH MEASURE Y, AND ALSO DEVELOPED AND ADOPTED A BLUEPRINT FOR CLIMATE ACTION.

AND THEN CONCURRENTLY WITH THE CONSIDERATION OF POLICIES, ALSO CONSIDERED, UM, A VARIETY OF OPTIONS FOR CHANGING LAND USE.

I'LL EXPLAIN TOUCH ON THAT A BIT MORE HERE IN A SLIDE OR TWO AS WELL, AND HAS ALREADY INITIATED, UM, WHAT'S A SIGNIFICANT PART OF GENERAL PLAN IMPLEMENTATION, WHICH IS ZONING, UH, CODE UPDATES, STARTING WITH, UM, IMPLEMENTATION REQUIRED FOR THE HOUSING ELEMENT.

SO AGAIN, VERY EXCITED TO BE AT THIS POINT.

WE'RE GETTING VERY CLOSE TO THE FINISH LINE, UM, AND YOU'VE BEEN FANTASTIC PARTNERS IN THE PROCESS, AS HEATHER MENTIONED.

I THINK THIS IS OUR 15TH MEETING WITH YOU.

SO IT'S BEEN A GREAT PLEASURE WORKING WITH YOU THROUGHOUT THAT TIME.

JUST QUICKLY TO RECAP, UM, THE EVOLUTION OF THE POLICY SIDE OF THE GENERAL PLAN, UM, BACK IN, UH, 2024, UM, AFTER AN EXTENSIVE, UH, REVIEW OF, UH, POLICY FRAMEWORKS FOR EACH OF THE ELEMENTS, UM, AFTER GPAC AND PLANNING COMMISSION FEEDBACK, YOU, YOU'VE ALSO PROVIDED US SPECIFIC GUIDANCE AND DIRECTION ON WHAT TO MAKE SURE WE INCLUDE IN THE VARIOUS ELEMENTS.

AND ALL OF THAT INPUT, INCLUDING THE COUNCIL'S DIRECTION, IS REFLECTED IN THE DRAFT THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU.

UM, ONE THING WE'RE NOT PRESENTING TONIGHT, BUT THAT IS IN YOUR PACKET, ARE SOME SLIDES THAT, UM, SUMMARIZE BY, I THINK 10 HIGH PRIORITY TOPICS FOR THE CITY AND COMMUNITY, KIND OF WHAT WE GENERALLY HEARD, AND THEN HOW WE, UM, ADDRESS THAT SPECIFICALLY IN THE ELEMENTS.

SO THOSE ARE IN YOUR PACKET.

WE ALSO HAVE THEM AVAILABLE AS BACKUP SLIDES IF YOU'D LIKE TO, TO REFERENCE OR DISCUSS THEM THIS EVENING.

ON THE LAND USE SIDE, UM, THERE WAS ALSO AN EXTENSIVE PROCESS OF INVOLVING THE PUBLIC, THE GPAC, AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

AND IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE COUNCIL HAD A CRITICAL, PLAYED A CRITICAL ROLE IN COMING TO THE FINAL LAND USE MAP THAT YOU HAVE ON THE DRAFT GP STARTING BACK IN SPRING OF 2024, WHERE YOU PROVIDED GUIDANCE ON WHICH AREAS, SPECIFICALLY IN THE CITY WHERE YOU SHOULD CONSIDER LAND USE CHANGE, AND THE OPTIONS THAT WE SHOULD PRESENT TO THE PUBLIC.

WE THEN WENT THROUGH THAT PUBLIC FEEDBACK PROCESS, GOT GPAC INPUT, GOT PC INPUT, AND THEN SUMMARIZED ALL OF THAT IN A BRIEFING BOOK THAT WE SPENT THREE WORKSHOPS WITH YOU DISCUSSING.

WE THEN UPDATED THE DESIGNATIONS AND THE MAP, AGAIN, DID SOME ANALYSIS ON THOSE, BROUGHT THOSE BACK TO YOU LAST DECEMBER, AT WHICH POINT YOU GAVE US THE FINAL SPECIFIC DIRECTION, UM, WHICH INCLUDED BOTH SOME OF THE LAND USE DIRECTION, THAT DIRECTION SPECIFIC TO SOME DESIGNATIONS, AND AS WELL AS A FEW POLICY REFINEMENTS.

AND JUST BECAUSE I KNOW A LOT OF PUBLIC COMMENT HAS BEEN RECEIVED ON THE, THE DIRECTION YOU PROVIDED IN DECEMBER, SPECIFIC TO ALLOWING THE, UH, STATION MIXED USE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE SMART STATION, I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT IS THE, THAT IS THE ONLY LOCATION IN THE CITY WHERE THE EIGHT STORIES THAT ARE ALLOWED AS PART OF THAT DESIGNATION ARE ALLOWED.

UM, AND THAT THE CITY, SINCE THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS, UH, THROUGHOUT THE CENTRAL PETALUMA SPECIFIC PLAN AREA, HAS ALLOWED SIX STORIES.

AND SO THIS IS NOT A GIANT LEAP, I THINK, AS ONE COMMISSIONER MENTIONED AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.

THIS IS AN INCREMENTAL STEP IN MANY RESPECTS FOR THE CITY, ALLOWING FOR THE INTENSIFICATION DESIRED IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE CENTRAL TRANSIT HUB FOR THE COMMUNITY, UM, AND ALLOWING FOR THE,

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UH, UH, MIX OF USES AND AFFORDABILITY LEVELS DESIRED BY THE COMMUNITY FOR HOUSING.

UM, NOT GONNA GO IN ALL THE DETAIL AGAIN, BUT THERE'S BEEN A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AS SUMMARIZED BY THIS GREAT INFOGRAPHIC THAT YOUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM DEVELOPED.

HEATHER ALREADY MENTIONED THIS IS OUR 15TH MEETING WITH YOU.

UM, YOU'VE BEEN WITH US EVERY STEP OF THE WAY AND PROVIDED A SPECIFIC DIRECTION AT THE CONCLUSION OF EACH STEP GUIDING US FOR THE NEXT STEPS.

LIKEWISE, WE HAD 16 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS BEFORE THIS LAST MEETING AT THE END OF APRIL, AND WE SET A RECORD FOR ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETINGS WITH 40 GPAC MEETINGS OVER THE COURSE OF THE PLANNING PROCESS.

UM, YOU'RE EXTREMELY LUCKY CITY TO HAVE SUCH A DEDICATED AND INVESTED KNOWLEDGEABLE VOLUNTEER COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO PUT IN A HUGE AMOUNT OF TIME TO WORK WITH US AND GUIDE US AND HELP US, UH, CRAFT THE PLAN YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.

I THINK HEATHER ALREADY TOUCHED ON THIS, BUT WE'RE AT THIS POINT WHERE WE'RE CONCLUDING THE FORMAL PERIOD FOR EIR INPUT TONIGHT.

UM, AND, UH, LOOKING FOR YOUR GUIDANCE FROM HERE.

AND THEN THE NEXT STEP AFTER THIS MEETING, DEPENDING ON THE NATURE OF GUIDANCE YOU PROVIDE US THIS EVENING, IS TO COME BACK, UM, ONE MORE TIME, UM, TO ADOPT OR TO CERTIFY THE EIR AND ADOPT THE UPDATED GENERAL PLAN.

DID WANNA JUST SPEND A FEW MINUTES SINCE THIS IS, THIS DRAFT IS THE FIRST VERSION YOU'VE SEEN IN THE KIND OF DESIGN AND LAYOUT LAID OUT VERSION OF THE GENERAL PLAN.

UM, WE'LL GO INTO GREAT DETAIL, BUT THE TABLE CONTENTS IS AN, IS A CONVENIENT OVERVIEW FOR HOW IT'S ORGANIZED.

UM, THERE IS A CONCISE INTRODUCTION, REALLY JUST INTRODUCING THE READER TO WHAT A GENERAL PLAN IS, THE PLANNING AREA, AND HOW TO MAKE YOUR WAY AROUND THE PLAN.

UM, THE THRUST OF THE PLAN IS REALLY SUMMARIZED IN CHAPTER TWO.

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY, UM, SUMMARIZES THE PLANNING PROCESS, UM, THE PILLARS, VISION AND GUIDING PRINCIPLES, AND THEN PROVIDES A, A SUMMARY OF POLICY DIRECTION, WHICH YOU, IF YOU HAVEN'T YET, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO READ BECAUSE IT PROVIDES YOU THAT HIGH LEVEL INTEGRATED KIND OF HOLISTIC PERSPECTIVE, WHICH WAS REALLY THE INTENT ALL ALONG, UH, FOR WHEN CRAFTING THE GENERAL PLAN IS THAT IT'S, IT'S TEMPTING TO LOOK AT IT IN THE SILOS, BUT LAW REQUIRES US TO ORGANIZE THE GENERAL PLAN TO SOME EXTENT BY ELEMENTS.

BUT YOU OFTEN LOSE SIGHT THEN OF HOW IT ALL COMES TOGETHER, UH, IN A COHERENT, UH, INTEGRATED WAY TO ACHIEVE THE VERY INTERRELATED VISION THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS ESTABLISHED.

CHAPTERS THREE THROUGH SEVEN THEN ARE, UM, THEMATIC CHAPTERS, UH, AROUND WHICH WE ORGANIZED THE, UM, ELEMENTS.

AND THEN YOU HAVE SOME VERY USEFUL RESOURCES IN THE APPENDIX A FULL GLOSSARY.

APPENDIX B IS ONE OF MY FAVORITES 'CAUSE I CAN NEVER REMEMBER EVERYWHERE IN THE GENERAL PLAN WHERE TO FIND A PARTICULAR TOPIC.

AND THAT'S DESIGNED TO HELP YOU DO THAT.

WE PICKED 20 TOPICS, WE COULD HAVE DONE IT FOR 50.

UM, BUT IT'S DESIGNED TO REALLY HELP YOU BECAUSE, BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH INTERRELATION, YOU CAN'T PUT ALL ALL POLICIES RELATED TO A SINGLE TOPIC IN ONE PLACE.

WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A HELPFUL GUIDE FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND HOW THEY'RE, HOW IT'S SO CROSS-CUTTING, AND YOU NEED TO CONSIDER A VARIETY OF ELEMENTS FOR ANY GIVEN TOPIC.

WE DO IT BY SUB AREA AS WELL.

UM, AND THEN ALSO THERE'S, UH, APPENDIX D, WHICH IS DESIGNED TO, UH, ALLOW THE CITY TO HIT THE GROUND RUNNING WITH IMPLEMENTATION AS SOON AS THE PLAN IS ADOPTED.

THIS IS AN IMAGE WE USED IN THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY JUST TO SHOW THE WAY IN WHICH WE THINK OF THE GENERAL PLA, UH, UH, PLAN AS A CONSISTENT, INTERNALLY CONSISTENT AND COMPLIMENTARY SET OF ELEMENTS AND THEIR GOALS AND POLICIES AND IMPLEMENTATION, UH, ACTIONS.

WE REALLY THINK WE REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT THIS IN TERMS OF THE NATURAL FOUNDATIONS OF THE PLAN BEING CRITICAL TO BE THE FIRST FOCUS, WHICH IS WHY CHAPTER THREE IS FEATURING NATURAL FEATURES, HISTORICAL RESOURCES, SAFETY AND FLOOD RESILIENCE.

THOSE THINGS TOGETHER REALLY KIND OF DEFINE WHERE YOU SHOULD AND SHOULDN'T, UM, GROW IN THE FUTURE.

UM, AND, AND PRETTY, WHAT PRETTY WELL DEFINES THAT, THAT DEVELOPMENT ENVELOPE THEN, WHICH WAS THE GUIDE FOR THE SECOND LAYER THEN, UM, WHICH IS REALLY WHERE YOU THINK ABOUT WHERE YOU WANT FUTURE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT, BOTH THROUGH THE LAND USE AND THE HOUSING ELEMENTS.

ONCE YOU'RE CLEAR ABOUT THAT, YOU CAN BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT INFRASTRUCTURE SYSTEMS YOU NEED TO SUPPORT THAT, TRANSPORTATION, PARKS AND REC FACILITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND THEN FINALLY, IF YOU DO ALL THAT RIGHT, YOU GET ALL THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE WANT AND TYPICALLY EXPERIENCE DAY TO DAY IN TERMS OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY, A, CREATE A, A ROBUST CREATIVE SECTOR, UM, HEALTH EQUITY AND ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE.

AND THEN ON TOP WE PUT IMPLEMENTATION BECAUSE WE REALLY, WE KNOW IT'S HOW, HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS FOR THE COMMUNITY.

AND WANTED TO BE VERY EXPLICIT ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE THOUGHT ABOUT IT CAREFULLY AND THOUGHTFULLY, UM, SO THAT THE PLAN COULD IMMEDIATELY BE IMPLEMENTED.

AND WE PROVIDED,

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WE ORGANIZED IN SUCH A WAY TO FACILITATE THAT AND PROVIDED SOME TOOLS WITHIN THE PLAN ITSELF AS WELL.

UH, TO GUIDE THAT, INCLUDING, AND I THI I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY OTHER EXAMPLE IN THE STATE OF A EL, A GENERAL PLAN WITH A IMPLEMENTATION AND GOVERNANCE ELEMENT.

EACH CHAPTER, EXCUSE ME, EACH ELEMENT, UM, HAS A, IN A TABLE OF CONTENTS, VERY HIGH LEVEL AT THE BEGINNING, AND IT TYPICALLY COVERS THE MAJOR SECTIONS OF THE ELEMENT.

PLUS IF IT HAS FIGURES, IT PROVIDES, UM, GUIDANCE TO THOSE FINGERS.

ALL THOSE THINGS ARE, UH, HIGHLIGHT OR HYPERLINKED.

THEN IT HAS A BRIEF BACKGROUND AND INTRODUCTION, UH, UH, CONTACT SECTION, TOUCHING ON STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS, EXISTING CONDITIONS, RELATED VISION PILLARS AND GUIDING PRINCIPLES.

AND THEN YOU HAVE THE HEART OF THE ELEMENT, WHICH, UH, STARTS WITH A STRATEGY SUMMARY, KIND OF GIVING A PERSON, PICKING UP THE ELEMENT FOR THE FIRST TIME, A SENSE OF WHAT IT DOES.

AND THEN IT HAS THE MORE DETAILED GOALS, POLICIES AND ACTIONS, UM, GENERALLY ARRANGE THE WAY YOU SEE ON THIS PAGE HERE.

AND THEN, UM, THE STAFF ARE WORKING ON THIS.

UM, AS YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS ACTUALLY WHILE WE'RE STILL DRAFTING THE GP.

BUT, UM, THE IMPLEMENTATION, UH, ELEMENT AS WELL AS THE SUPPORTING APPENDIX.

IDENTIFY HOW SPECIFICALLY, UM, TRACK, UH, STAFF WILL BE, UM, TRACKING THE ACTIONS INCLUDED IN THE GENERAL PLAN AND HOW THEY'LL USE THAT AS A MEANS TO, TO MONITOR, IMPLEMENT, IMPLEMENTATION, AND BE ABLE TO EASE, UH, STATUS UPDATES FOR COUNSEL AS WELL.

AT THIS POINT, I'M GONNA PASS IT BACK TO HEATHER WHO'S GONNA HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE THINGS, UH, THAT ARE ALREADY BEEN DONE TO IMPLEMENT THE GP.

THANK YOU, RON.

UH, SO SOME IMPLEMENTATION IS ALREADY UNDERWAY.

SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE REFERENCED IN THE GENERAL PLANS, SO I WANTED TO TOUCH ON THOSE.

JUST SO YOU SEE AS WE ARE STARTING TO CLOSE OUT THE GENERAL PLAN, WE'RE ALREADY, WE'VE ALREADY LAUNCHED OR ARE LAUNCHING SOME OF THOSE KEY IMPLEMENTATION EFFORTS.

UH, SO ZONING CODE UPDATE, WE, UM, HAVE STARTED SPECIFIC SECTIONS, UM, SPECIFIC SECTIONS NEEDED TO IMPLEMENT THE HOUSING ELEMENT.

YOU RECENTLY APPROVED THE TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE.

UM, AND WE ARE LAYING OUT THE SCOPE, UM, TO HAVE THE FIRST, UM, BUNDLE, IF YOU WILL, OF THE ZONING, A COMPREHENSIVE ZONING CODE UPDATE TO IMPLEMENT THE GENERAL PLAN, COME CLOSELY ON THE HEELS OF THE ADOPTION.

SO THINGS THAT ARE CALLED FOR IN, UM, THE GENERAL PLAN AND NEEDED TO, UM, PUT THE CITY IN A GOOD POSITION, UM, FOR, UM, IMPLEMENTATION.

SO THAT WOULD BE, UH, ZONING DISTRICTS THAT IMPLEMENT, UM, THE NEW LAND USE DESIGNATION, SOME OF THOSE, SOME OF THOSE STANDARDS.

PRESENTATION 'CAUSE I FEEL LIKE I'M FOCUSED ON HALF OF THE DAIS.

WE ALSO HAVE OUR, WELL ON OUR WAY WITH OUR NORTH PETALUMA STATION SPECIFIC PLAN.

I THINK YOU HAVE SOMETHING COMING UP, UM, SOON HERE TO BRING FORWARD, UM, SOME DISCUSSION ON THAT ITEM.

UM, SO THAT STARTED AND AN INITIAL COMMUNITY WORKSHOP WAS HELD IN MARCH.

UM, SO THAT IS UNDERWAY TO LOOK AT THAT, UM, PRIORITY DEVELOPMENT AREA THAT RUNS, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE, IN THE GRAPHIC AND INCLUDES A DISCUSSION OF, UM, POTENTIAL ANNEXATION RIGHT THERE AT, UM, THE, THE NORTH STATION.

UH, TWO OTHER THINGS THAT ARE KICKING OFF, UM, AS AN UPDATE TO CENTRAL PETALUMA SPECIFIC PLAN.

THIS WAS ALSO AN MTC, UM, FUNDED PROJECT AND A CONSULTANT BENCH THAT MTC ACTUALLY SELECTED.

UM, THE CONSULTANT BENCH FOR THIS ROUND OF, UM, MTC FUNDS, UH, THAT IS SET TO KICK OFF IN THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS, SO MID 2026.

AND THEN FAIRGROUNDS MASTER PLAN, UM, JUST AT A RECENT MEETING, YOU SELECTED THE CONSULTANT TO KICK THAT OFF, UM, IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

SO, OH, AND INFRASTRUCTURE FINANCING.

SO THIS, UM, WILL COME AT ON THE HEELS OF THE GENERAL PLAN AS WELL TO UPDATE OUR DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEES.

WE HAVE CREATED AN INTERNAL WORKING GROUP, UM, LOOKING AT DRAFTING THE RFP FOR THAT.

UM, AND THEN NEXT STEPS WILL BE UPDATING THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, DOING THOSE NEXUS FEE STUDIES AND RETURNING TO THE COUNCIL WITH UPDATED, UM, IMPACT FEES.

SO A LOT GOING ON.

UM, ALL OF THESE THINGS REFERENCED OR FUNDAMENTAL TO THE GENERAL PLAN, AND WE'RE ALREADY MOVING FORWARD ON 'EM.

UM, BEFORE I HAND IT OVER TO OLIVIA AND MATT TO DIVE INTO THE ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS, UH, I WANTED TO TOUCH ON THE T KEY TOPICS.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT RON REFERENCED AND MORE DETAIL IS IN THE POWERPOINT.

THIS IS THE MOST AWKWARD PLACE TO MAKE A

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BUT, UM, KEY TOPICS IN THE GENERAL PLAN.

SO BOTH ON THE WEBSITE AND IN THE POWERPOINT THAT WAS, UM, POSTED WITH THE PACKET, UH, WE TALK, UH, ABOUT A NUMBER OF KEY TOPICS, WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT CHANGES WERE MADE TO ADDRESS THOSE.

SO THAT LIST IS KIND OF THOSE, THOSE TOP, UM, TOPICS THAT WE HEARD WHEN WE WERE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.

UM, SO THE MORE DETAIL WAS, UM, PROVIDED, UM, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT MIGHT COME OUT OF THAT.

I ALSO WANNA POINT OUT APPENDIX B IS A REALLY NICE RESOURCE, AND AGAIN, RON REFERENCED THIS ON WHERE TO FIND TOPICS.

SO, UM, TOPICS SUCH AS, UM, TREES FOR INSTANCE.

AND YOU CAN SEE ACROSS MANY DIFFERENT ELEMENTS WHERE TREES ARE REFERENCED AND ADDRESSED, UM, ALSO GEOGRAPHICALLY WITH THE 16 SUB AREAS.

UM, SO I THINK THAT'S A REALLY NICE FEATURE, UM, IN THAT APPENDIX B, IF YOU ARE KIND OF TOPIC FOCUSED WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE GENERAL PLAN, THAT'S A GOOD PLACE TO GO.

UM, AND THEN NATURAL FEATURES, UH, THERE'S A, A BIT OF A LISTING, UM, BECAUSE NATURAL FEATURES WERE ONE OF THOSE TOPICS THAT WERE VERY IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY AND ALSO CROSSES A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT ELEMENTS.

UM, SO, UM, IT, IT HAS A NICE, A NICE, UM, WAY OF LOOKING AT HOW THAT ONE TOPIC, UM, KIND OF TRANSCENDS THE SPECIFIC ELEMENT, UM, THAT IT'S, THAT IT'S LOCATED IN.

AND I THINK WITH THAT, I'M GONNA PASS IT TO OLIVIA TO KICK OFF THE A IR DISCUSSION.

YES, THANK YOU.

UH, YEAH.

SO THIS SECTION OF THE STAFF REPORT WILL FOCUS ON THE, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW THAT WAS CONDUCTED TO EVALUATE THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS OF THE PROPOSED GENERAL PLAN THAT IS ALSO BEFORE YOU FOR CONSIDERATION.

SO, UM, FIRST OF ALL, WHAT IS CQ ACE? QA STANDS FOR, UH, AN ACRONYM THAT IS THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT.

THAT IS A, UH, ROBUST SET OF LEGISLATION THAT ESTABLISHES THE FRAMEWORK FOR WHICH, UH, GUIDES THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW PROCESS THAT REQUIREMENTS AND THE PROCEDURES.

UM, CQA IS A PUBLIC DISCLOSURE AND INPUT PROCESS.

IT MANDATES, UM, BOTH OF THOSE PROCEDURAL AND SUBSTANTIVE REQUIREMENTS, UM, SUCH AS THE NOTIFICATION AND THE PUBLICATION TIMELINES, AS WELL AS AN EVALUATION OF THE IMPACTS THEMSELF, THAT DETAILED ANALYSIS, THE, UM, CLAUSE FOR SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE, UM, AND THAT DOCUMENTATION THROUGH THE PUBLIC REVIEW PROCESS THAT MUST BE COMPLETED PRIOR TO TAKING ANY DISCRETIONARY ACTION.

THE PURPOSE, THE CENTRAL, UM, PURPOSE OF CQA IS TO PROVIDE FOR INFORMED DECISION MAKING SO THAT, UH, DECISION MAKERS AND THE PUBLIC, THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSEQUENCES ARE OF APPROVING OR TAKING ACTION ON A PROJECT.

I'M GONNA TALK THROUGH THE EIR STRUCTURE.

THE, UM, SO THE GENERAL PLAN, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT.

THE DRAFT EIR IS BEFORE YOU, UH, THIS EVENING.

THE GENERAL PLAN, EIR IS A BROAD LEVEL, UM, UH, ANALYSIS.

IT'S A PROGRAM LEVEL ANALYSIS, SO IT TAKES THAT 30,000 FOOT VIEW TO CONSIDER THOSE POLICY IMPLICATIONS.

SO IT IS NOT SITE SPECIFIC, IT'S NOT, UM, PARCEL PARCEL SPECIFIC.

SO, UH, WITH THAT, THAT DIFFERENCE AT THAT, AT THAT PROGRAM LEVEL, IT IS UNDERSTOOD THAT THERE ARE UNCERTAINTIES AT THAT BROAD SCALE THAT, UM, ACROSS THE PLANNING HORIZON, THOSE, UM, UH, CIRCUMSTANCES CAN CHANGE AND, UH, THINGS BECOME A LITTLE MORE UNCERTAIN WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING ACROSS THAT LONG HORIZON, UM, AND AT THAT BROAD SCALE.

AND SO THE IMPACT DETERMINATIONS REFLECT THAT ACCORDINGLY, IT DOES ANTICIPATE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT, UM, AS DESIGNATED BY THE PROPOSED LAND USE, AND IT RECOGNIZES THAT REDEVELOPMENT, ONGOING MAINTENANCE, UM, IMPROVEMENTS TO INFRASTRUCTURE ARE A ROUTINE PART OF THOSE ONGOING ACTIVITIES.

AND THAT, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL CHANGES ARE PART OF THAT GENERAL PLAN IMPLEMENTATION.

SO THAT'S WHAT THE EIR AIMS TO GET AT.

UM, AND FINALLY, IT IS A, UH, WHAT'S CALLED A FIRST TIER ANALYSIS UNDER CE QA.

SO, UH, THAT IS THE FOUNDATIONAL DOCUMENT THAT GUIDES ALL FUTURE DISCRETIONARY REVIEW AND FUTURE PROJECTS THAT ARE FULLY CONSISTENT WITH AND IMPLEMENT THE GENERAL PLAN MAY BE ELIGIBLE FOR STREAMLINING AS PROVIDED BY CE QA STATUTE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UH, SO THIS SHOWS THE GENERAL LIST OF APPENDIX G CHECKLIST ITEMS THAT ARE INCLUDED, UM, AS EACH CHAPTER IN THE DRAFT EIR.

UM,

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NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO THIS IS, UM, HOW THE EIR ITSELF IS ORGANIZED.

SO UPFRONT WE HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY THAT PRESENTS A TABLE OF ALL OF THE IMPACT STATEMENTS AS WELL AS THE PROJECT OBJECTIVES.

UH, CHAPTER TWO PROVIDES A DETAILED PROJECT DESCRIPTION.

THE PROJECT DESCRIPTION HERE IS THE PROPOSED GENERAL PLAN.

CHAPTER THREE SETS THE ENVIRONMENTAL SETTING.

UM, IT'S A CHARACTERIZATION OF BOTH THE EXISTING PHYSICAL AND THE REGULATORY CONTEXT.

SO FOR THE GENERAL PLAN, FOR THE PROGRAM LEVEL, EIR, THE PHYSICAL SETTING IS WHAT WE SEE IN OBSERVE AROUND TOWN.

THAT'S THE MIX OF EXISTING DEVELOPMENT INFRASTRUCTURE, VACANT LAND, AND OPEN SPACE.

AND THEN THERE'S ALSO THE REGULATORY CONTEXT.

SO THAT WOULD BE, UM, BOTH LOCAL, STATE AND, UH, FEDERAL GUIDING DOCUMENTATION THAT ARE IN PLACE THAT MAY GUIDE FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS.

SO THAT DOES INCLUDE THE CURRENT GENERAL PLAN, AND ITS CERTIFIED EIR AS WELL.

UM, CHAPTER FOUR IS THE, UM, EVALUATION AND IMPACT ANALYSIS.

THAT'S WHERE EACH CHAPTER, UM, ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE WHERE I SHOWED THE LIST OF ENVIRONMENTAL CATEGORIES, EACH OF THOSE HAS A DETAILED CHAPTER DEDICATED TO, UM, THAT FOLLOWS A SIMILAR ORGANIZATION TO TALK ABOUT THE, THAT REGULATORY SETTING, THE IMPACT ANALYSIS, AND THEN THE MITIGATION.

UH, AND THEN EACH CHAPTER DOES INCLUDE A CUMULATIVE ANALYSIS AT THE END.

AND FINALLY, CHAPTER SIX IS THE ALTERNATIVES ANALYSIS.

THAT'S SORT OF THE GENERAL ORGANIZATION OF THE DRAFT DIR.

THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE PROCEDURAL STEPS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO COMPLETE THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW.

SO AT THE ONSET, A NOTICE OF PREPARATION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT WAS RELEASED AND A SCOPING MEETING WAS HELD.

BOTH PUBLIC AND AGENCY COMMENTS WERE RECEIVED ON THE NOTICE OF PREP, THE NOTICE OF PREPARATION, UM, WHICH WERE IN, WHICH WERE USED TO INFORM THE ANALYSIS AND THE DISCUSSION IN THE DRAFT DIR.

UM, THE DRAFT DIR HAS BEEN PUBLISHED NOW FOR, UM, MORE THAN 45 DAYS.

AS WAS MENTIONED, THAT PUBLICATION DATE WAS ON MARCH 27TH, AND TODAY IS THE CLOSE OF THAT PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

UH, TONIGHT WE ARE HERE TO RECEIVE COMMENTS AND DIRECTION TO PREPARE THE FINAL EIR, AND THE NEXT STEPS WILL BE TO, UM, PREPARE THAT FINAL EIR AND BRING THAT BACK TO THE COUNCIL.

UM, AS PART OF THE GENERAL PLAN HEARING TO CONSIDER ADOPTION, UM, WHICH THE COUNCIL MUST CERTIFY THE EIR, UH, PRIOR TO TAKING ACTION TO ADOPT THE GENERAL PLAN, I DO WANNA HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF COMPARISONS REALLY BRIEFLY, BETWEEN THE CURRENT CERTIFIED GENERAL PLAN AND THE DRAFT EIR THAT'S BEFORE YOU.

SO, UM, MANY DECADES HAVE PASSED SINCE THAT, UM, PRIOR THE CURRENT EIR WAS CERTIFIED.

SO THIS NEW, UM, EIR DOES BRING THE CITY'S ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS OF THE GENERAL PLAN UP TO DATE.

IT USES BEST PRACTICES AND METHODOLOGY.

IT REFLECTS, UM, THE LATEST MODELING AND PROJECTIONS AND INCORPORATES CHANGES IN STATE REGULATION REGARDING HOW ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS ARE EVALUATED.

UH, SO THAT COULD BE SOMETHING LIKE, UH, LEVEL OF SERVICE UNDER THE OLD GENERAL PLAN, UM, FRAMEWORK.

NOW WE'RE IN A VMT WORLD, SO THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG CHANGES.

UM, JUST LIKE THE CURRENT GENERAL PLAN, THIS DRAFT ALSO IDENTIFIES A RANGE OF ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS FROM NO IMPACT TO POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT.

SO I WANNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT AND, UM, OFFER A REMINDER THAT, UM, THE CURRENT CERTIFIED GENERAL PLAN EIR DOES MAKE SIGNIFICANT AND UNAVOIDABLE FINDINGS FOR SEVERAL TOPIC AREAS THAT ARE LISTED HERE.

AND, UH, THIS CURRENT GENERAL PLAN, OR THE PROPOSED DRAFT, DIR, UH, FOR THE GENERAL PLAN BEFORE YOU NOW ALSO MAKES, UH, SIMILAR SIGNIFICANT AND UN UNAVOIDABLE FINDINGS.

SO, UH, BRIEFLY, IT SHOULD JUST BE UNDERSTOOD THAT THOSE, UH, SIGNIFICANT AND UNAVOIDABLE FINDINGS ARE DISCLOSURE OF POTENTIAL IMPACTS.

IT IS AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT ABOUT THOSE UNCERTAINTIES ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROGRAM LEVEL ANALYSIS.

UM, THE LENGTH OF TIME UNDER WHICH THE GENERAL PLAN WILL BUILD, BUILD OUT, SUCH THAT CONTEXT MAY CHANGE, TECHNOLOGY MAY CHANGE, AND REGULATION MAY CHANGE.

SO THAT'S REALLY THE DRIVER FOR THESE, UM, SIGNIFICANT AND UNAVOIDABLE FINDINGS.

UM, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND AS WELL THAT THESE ARE VERY COMMON AT THAT PROGRAM LEVEL.

AND ON THIS SLIDE, IT SHOWS, UM, SOME OF THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS IN SON COUNTY THAT HAVE SU FINDINGS IN THEIR GI GENERAL PLANNING IRS AS WELL.

UM, AND SHOULD JUST BE UNDERSTOOD THAT EVEN WHEN THE MOST RIGOROUS POLICIES AND MITIGATION ARE APPLIED, UM, THERE STILL CAN BE A CONCLUSION OF POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT, UH, AND THE, THE NEED TO ADOPT A STATEMENT OF OVERRIDING CONSIDERATIONS, WHICH, UH, WE HAVE HERE.

AND WITH THAT, I'M GONNA HAND IT OVER TO MATT

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TO PROVIDE A DEEPER DIVE ON THOSE FINDINGS AND THE, UM, INCLUDING THE SIGNIFICANT AND UNAVOIDABLE.

THANKS.

THANK YOU, OLIVIA.

GOOD EVENING COUNCIL MEMBERS.

UH, PLEASURE TO BE HERE WITH YOU.

UM, ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS I'LL GET INTO IS ACTUALLY RUNNING THROUGH SOME OF THE FINDINGS.

WHAT I WANNA POINT OUT THOUGH IS THERE'S OVER 19 ISSUE AREAS THAT WE LOOK AT, INCLUDING SOME OF THE OTHER TOPICS AS WELL, GROWTH INDUCING IMPACTS, ALTERNATIVES.

UM, THE MAJORITY OF THOSE ISSUE AREAS WERE DETERMINED TO BE LESS THAN SIGNIFICANT OR HAVE NO SIGNIFICANCE.

UM, WE'RE GONNA FOCUS ON THE ONES THAT HAD A LEVEL OF SIGNIFICANCE THAT REQUIRED MITIGATION, AND THEN TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE ONES THAT EVEN WITH MITIGATION WERE DETERMINED TO BE UNAVOIDABLE, UH, SIGNIFICANT AND UNAVOIDABLE.

SO THE FIRST GROUP HERE IS OUR LESS THAN SIGNIFICANT WITH MITIGATION MEASURES.

UM, WE HAVE A HANDFUL OF ONES RELATED TO AIR QUALITY, INCLUDING BOTH CONSTRUCTION AND OPERATIONAL EMISSIONS, BIOLOGICAL RESOURCES RELATED TO SENSITIVE SPECIES AND MIGRATORY BIRDS.

CULTURAL RESOURCES RELATED TO ARCHEOLOGICAL RESOURCES AND UNIDENTIFIED HUMAN REMAINS, GEOLOGY AND SOILS RELATED TO PALEONTOLOGICAL RESOURCES IN ONE PIECE.

THERE IS, THAT'S ACTUALLY A NEWER, UH, PIECE THAT'S INCLUDED WITHIN CE QL PALEONTOLOGICAL RESOURCES USED TO BE IN CULTURAL RESOURCES.

NOW IT'S ACTUALLY SEPARATED OUT, UM, AND IS IN THE GEOLOGY SOIL SECTION.

WE HAVE NOISE RELATED TO CONSTRUCTION RELATED GROUND BORNE VIBRATION AND TRIBAL CULTURE RESOURCES RELATED TO CONSTRUCTION IMPACTS.

UM, A QUICK HIGHLIGHT ON EACH OF THOSE IS THAT, UM, GENERALLY THOSE ARE RELATED TO CONSTRUCTION AND TEMPORARY IMPACTS.

THE MITIGATION MEASURES THAT ARE WITHIN THE EIR AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE, UH, ENFORCED AS PART OF THE MITIGATION MONITORING REPORTING PROGRAM THAT WILL BE PART OF FINAL, I, FINAL EIR ARE BASICALLY ADVISING THE CITY WHEN PROJECTS COME UP TO IMPLEMENT CONSTRUCTION MITIGATION ON AN ONGOING BASIS.

UM, THE MAJORITY OF THOSE WOULD BE IMPLEMENTED ON A PROJECT LEVEL BASIS AND THEN BECOME CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FOR THOSE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS WHEN THEY COME FORWARD.

NOW LET'S DIG INTO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SIGNIFICANT AND UNAVOIDABLE RESOURCES, UH, UH, IMPACTS CULTURE RESOURCES AND SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO HISTORIC RESOURCES.

UM, RE THE MITIGATION MEASURE REQUIRES PREPARATION OF A HISTORIC RESOURCES EVALUATION FOR ANY DISCRETIONARY PROJECT THAT INVOLVES THE DEMOLITION OR PHYSICAL ALTERATION OF A BUILDING STRUCTURE OR OBJECT OR OTHER BUILT ENVIRONMENT THAT IS 45 YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER.

TYPICALLY IN CALIFORNIA, ANY STRUCTURE OVER 50 YEARS OF AGE, IS THAT THE THRESHOLD THAT WE DETERMINE THAT IT COULD BE POTENTIALLY HISTORIC? UM, THE ONE THING TO POINT OUT IN CALIFORNIA NOW IS AT 50 YEARS OLD IS NOT VERY LONG AGO.

UH, SO ANY BUILDING BUILT IN 1976 COULD BE DETERMINED TO BE SIGNIFICANT FROM A HISTORIC STANDPOINT.

ARE BUILDINGS THAT ARE BUILT IN 1976 AUTOMATICALLY HISTORIC, ABSOLUTELY NOT.

THE MAJORITY WOULD NOT HAVE A HISTORIC ELEMENT, BUT WE DEEM, UM, THAT WE, WE SET A THRESHOLD OF 45 YEARS OR OLDER TO ENSURE THAT IF THERE'S A POTENTIAL HISTORIC RESOURCE, IT'S ADEQUATELY IDENTIFIED AND, AND PROPER MEASURES ARE BUILT, ARE, ARE BUILT IN.

UM, I ALSO WANNA POINT OUT THAT THE GENERAL PLANNING IN AND OF ITSELF HAS A NUMBER OF POLICIES AND IMPLEMENTATION MEASURES.

THAT IN AND OF ITSELF PROVIDES SOME MITIGATION.

THAT INCLUDES SOME ROBUST, UM, HISTORIC RESOURCES, POLICIES THAT ARE LISTED ON THE SCREEN WITH THE IDEA THAT HISTORIC RESOURCES ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO THE CITY.

UM, AND THE, THE GENERAL PLAN AND IMPLEMENTATION OF THE GENERAL PLAN WILL CONTINUE TO EN ENSURE THAT HISTORIC RESOURCES ARE NOT DAMAGED MOVING FORWARD.

EDUCATION INCENTIVES TO ENCOURAGE VOLUNTARY ACTIONS CONSISTENT WITH THE BLUEPRINT.

NEXT ITEM WAS GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS OR GREEN GHGS.

UM, I WANNA POINT OUT, AS PART OF THE PROCESS, THE CITY ADOPTED A BLUEPRINT FOR CLIMATE ACTION THAT ESTABLISHES A PATHWAY TOWARD CARBON NEUTRALITY, UM, IN KEEPING WITH BOTH THE COMMUNITY AND STATE TARGETS THAT WOULD REQUIRE THAT EMISSIONS, UH, DROPPED 40% BELOW 1990 LEVELS BY 2030, AND ON A PATHWAY TO CARBON NEUTRALITY BY THE YEAR 2045.

UH, WHILE THE CITY HAS THAT BLUEPRINT ADOPTED AND HAS A NUMBER OF IMPLEMENTATION ACTIONS THROUGH THE EIR PROCESS, IT WAS IDENTIFIED THAT BECAUSE OF SOME RECENT STATE AND FEDERAL REGULATIONS THAT LIMIT PETALUMA'S ABILITY TO ADOPT A STRICTER LOCAL BUILDING REGULATIONS, SPECIFICALLY AS IT RELATES TO ELECTRIFICATION, UM, AND, AND, UM, DETOURING NATURAL GAS USE THAT WE ARE, WILL END UP FALLING SHORT OUTSIDE OF, UH, A FUTURE ACTION.

SO IF IN THE ANALYSIS IN THE IR IDENTIFIES THAT IF WE ARE NOT ABLE TO IMPLEMENT THOSE LOCAL BUILDING STANDARDS, THEN WE MAY NOT ACHIEVE THOSE GOALS.

AND ON, ON THAT PATHWAY, ARE WE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO IMPLEMENT THAT? ABSOLUTELY, BUT THERE WILL STILL BE SOME IMPACTS THAT WOULD BE DETERMINED TO BE SIGNIFICANT AND UNAVOIDABLE IN THIS INSTANCE.

UM, THE NEXT PART, NEXT SLIDE, RON.

THE, THE PIECE THOUGH THAT WE WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU TONIGHT AND SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC IS THAT THE GENERAL PLANNING ITSELF IMPLEMENTS A NUMBER OF GOALS AND POLICIES AND ACTIONS INTENDED TO REDUCE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS AND ADVANCE THE BLUEPRINT AND THE IMPLEMENTATION ACTIONS THAT ARE BUILT WITHIN THE BLUEPRINT, INCLUDING MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION, ENERGY EFFICIENCY, ELECTRIFICATION, AND OTHER CLIMATE RESPONSIVE LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIES.

ONGOING FOCUS WILL BE GIVEN TO, UH,

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AND WHEN THERE ARE LAWFUL PATHWAYS TO IMPLEMENT REGULATIONS CONSISTENT WITH THE ACTIONS CALLED FOR IN THE BLUEPRINT, THE CITY WILL DO EVERYTHING IN ITS POWER TO DO THAT.

AND THAT SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF AUTO IMPACT WOULD BE REDUCED TO A LESS SIGNIFICANT LEVEL.

WE JUST CANNOT SAY WITH CERTAINTY AT THIS POINT IN TIME THAT THAT WILL BE ACHIEVED IN THE LIFESPAN OF THE GENERAL PLAN.

SO WE HAD TO, HAD TO BE CONSERVATIVE AND MAKE A DETERMINATION THAT IT WAS SIGNIFICANT AND AND UNAVOIDABLE.

THE NEXT ONE IS NOISE, SPECIFICALLY AS IT RELATES TO, UM, CONSTRUCTION.

NOISE MITIGATION MEASURES THAT ARE INCLUDED ARE FAIRLY STANDARD MITIGATION MEASURES TO, UH, REDUCE, UM, UH, CONSTRUCTION RELATED NOISE WITHIN 500 FEET OF NOISE SENSITIVE LAND USES.

THOSE ARE TYPICALLY SCHOOLS, RESIDENCES, CHURCHES, UM, AS AN EXAMPLE.

UM, AND THAT ALSO, UM, THAT IF INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS THEMSELVES WOULD EXCEED THE NUMERIC THRESHOLDS, THEY WOULD NEED TO IMPLEMENT SOME MEASURES TO BUILD THAT IN AS WELL.

AS, AS OLIVIA MENTIONED, WE'RE KIND OF DOING THE AIRPLANE LEVEL VIEW, THE 30,000 FOOT LEVEL VIEW.

SO WE'VE SET UP SOME PRESCRIPTIVE MITIGATION MEASURES FOR INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS TO APPLY, AND THEY WOULD NEED TO DETERMINE SOME, SOME SITE SPECIFIC AND SPECIFIC MITIGATION, UH, WHEN THE TIME COMES FOR THOSE PROJECTS, UM, DURING PROJECT REVIEW.

AND LASTLY, TRANSPORTATION.

UM, AS OLIVIA MENTIONED, WE HAD A SHIFT IN WHAT THE THRESHOLDS WERE FROM THE LAST GENERAL PLAN IN 2005 UNTIL NOW.

THE, THE THRESHOLD BEING, UH, VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED OR VMT, THE GENERAL PLAN ITSELF HAS AN AGGRESSIVE PLAN FOR TRYING TO SHIFT GROWTH PATTERNS, INCREASING MOBILITY OPTIONS, AND THEN THEREFORE REDUCING VMT.

UM, THAT INCLUDES PRIORITIZING INFILL AND THE 15 MINUTE ACTIVITY CENTERS THAT WERE NOTED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION, UM, AND INCLUDING IN INCREASING DENSITY AROUND MAJOR TRANSIT HUBS.

UM, HOWEVER, THERE'S A VMT GAP THAT'S DUE TO HISTORICAL PATTERNS IN, IN THE REGION, INCLUDING MAJOR EMPLOYMENT CENTERS LIKE MARIN, SAN FRANCISCO, AND SANTA ROSA, WHICH RELY HEAVILY ON SINGLE OCCUPANT VEHICLES.

UM, SO FUTURE DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS WOULD STILL RESULT IN A PER CAPITAL VMT THAT WOULD EXCEED BOTH THE CITY'S ADOPTED VMT REDUCTION THRESHOLD AND THE CALIFORNIA AIR RESOURCES BOARD'S 2022 SCOPING PLAN RECOMMENDATIONS FOR VMT REDUCTIONS.

THIS REFLECTS WHAT WE CALL A VMT PARADOX, THAT EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE STRONG POLICIES BEING PUT FORWARD, THOSE STRONG POLICIES MAY NOT FULLY OFFSET THE REGIONAL TRAVEL PATTERNS SUCH AS COMMUTING TO NEARBY CITIES AND A LONGSTANDING SINGLE FAMILY SUBURBAN DEVELOPMENT PATTERN THAT THAT EXISTS HERE IN PETALUMA.

SO WE HAVE A NUMBER OF MITIGATION MEASURES, UM, WE'VE THAT ARE INTENDED TO DO THE BEST THAT THE CITY CAN DO TO IMPLEMENT VMT REDUCTION, INCLUDING A COMMUNITY-BASED VMT REDUCTION PROGRAM THAT'S ALREADY IN PROGRESS.

ADOPT POLICIES THAT REDUCE EMPLOYMENT EMPLOYEE-BASED VMT, UM, THOSE STEM OUT OF THE, OUT OF THE GHG BLUEPRINT, UM, AND IMPLEMENT ACTIONS THAT REDUCE SCHOOL RELATED VMT TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY.

ANOTHER, UH, ANOTHER, UH, POLICY THAT CAME FORWARD FROM THE BLUEPRINT.

SO, AS OLIVIA ALLUDED TO, FOR, FOR LONG RANGE CITY PLANNING DOCUMENTS, LIKE A GENERAL PLAN, SIGNIFICANT UNAVOIDABLE IMPACTS ARE NOT UNCOMMON.

THEY PROVIDE TRANSPARENCY ABOUT THE TRADE-OFFS BETWEEN THE POTENTIAL COMMUNITY GROWTH AND ACKNOWLEDGE THE INHERENT UNCERTAINTY ASSOCIATED WITH LONG-TERM PLANNING EFFORTS.

UM, THESE FINDINGS SHOULD NOT BE UNDERSTOOD AS PREDICTIONS, BUT ARE RATHER ARE, UH, AND THAT THEY WON'T NECESSARILY, THEY MAY NOT NECESSARILY OCCUR.

THEY'RE SIMPLY DISCLOSURES REQUIRED BY CE QA AT A PROGRAMMATIC LEVEL, AND THEY'RE BASED ON THE CONSERVATIVE ASSUMPTIONS THAT WE HAVE AND ARE REQUIRED TO DO AND, AND, UM, GIVE US SOME LEEWAY MOVING FORWARD.

UH, ONE OTHER PIECE I WANNA HIGHLIGHT IS THAT AS REQUIRED BY CE QA IS EIR ALTERNATIVES, WE ANALYZED THREE POTENTIAL ALTERNATIVES, INCLUDING THE REQUIRED NO PROJECT ALTERNATIVE, WHICH IS THE EXISTING GENERAL PLAN CONTINUING INTO THE FUTURE.

WE HAD A FOCUS ON THE CORE ALTERNATIVE.

IF YOU'LL REMEMBER, THE MAIN DRIVER OF THE PROPOSED GENERAL PLAN IS ACTUALLY QUITE A BIT OF DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE CORE, TRYING TO, TO, TO REMOVE, UH, GROWTH IN THE CORRIDOR.

THIS IS MORE, A MORE AGGRESSIVE WAY TO LOOK AT THAT.

AND THEN SEEING WHAT THE RAMIFICATIONS OR IMPACTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT WOULD BE IN COMPARISON TO THE PROPOSED GENERAL PLAN.

AND THEN THE OPPOSITE, WHICH IS IF THERE'S NOT A FOCUS ON THE COURT, BUT RATHER, MOST OF THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD HAPPEN ON THE, ON THE CORRIDOR, ON THE PERIPHERY OF THE CITY AND ON THE, ON THE OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS, WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

UM, AND BASED ON THE EN ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW THAT WAS DONE, STAFF CONTINUES TO RECOMMEND THE PROPOSED GENERAL PLAN AS THE PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE.

AND WITH THAT, I'LL HAND IT BACK TO HEATHER.

OUT ON THE EIR DISCUSSION THAT THE EIR WAS AVAILABLE FROM MARCH 27TH TO TODAY.

UH, AND JUST WANTED TO KIND OF CLOSE

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AS WE'VE MENTIONED, UM, THIS MEETING CLOSES THAT PUBLIC REVIEW PERIOD.

UM, WE MADE SURE THAT THE EIR WAS AVAILABLE ONLINE, UM, AND HARD COPIES AT, UH, THE LIBRARY, THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND CITY HALL, WHICH IS STANDARD, UM, PROCESS, UM, WITH THE CITY'S LOCAL CA GUIDELINES.

SO, UM, WE HAVE THE COMMENTS, YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF THE COMMENTS IN YOUR PACKET FROM WHAT WE RECEIVED PRIOR TO, UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AS WELL AS THINGS HAVE COME IN, IN AS IS PART OF, UM, THE FINAL EIR.

THERE WILL BE RESPONSES TO ALL SUBSTANTIVE COMMENTS ON THE EIR INCLUDED IN THE FINAL WHEN IT COMES BACK FIRST CERTIFICATION.

UM, I WANNA TAKE A MINUTE AND UM, KIND OF RECAP THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

UM, PLANNING COMMISSION HAD A SIMILAR PRESENTATION AND A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 28TH OF APRIL.

UM, WE HAD, I BELIEVE IT WAS SIX PUBLIC COMMENTERS THAT WERE THERE IN PERSON.

UM, A SUMMARY, IT WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET OF THE COMMENTS FROM THOSE, UM, THOSE COMMENTERS.

UM, THERE WAS A, A NICE, UM, HEALTHY DISCUSSION WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, BOTH ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS IN THE, IN THE EIR, THE GENERAL PLAN, UM, GETTING, UM, GOOD, GOOD FEEDBACK AND RESPONSE.

UM, THERE WAS A CONVERSATION FOCUSED AROUND, UM, THE EIGHT STORY, THE STATION MIXED USE.

UM, AND AS RON MENTIONED, THE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION REALLY, UM, DISCUSSED IT AS AN INCREMENTAL CHANGE THAT WE HAVE FOR THE LAST 20 PLUS YEARS IN THE CENTRAL PETALUMA SPECIFIC PLAN.

AND THE SMART CODE SIX STORIES HAVE BEEN ALLOWED THIS, UM, PROPOSAL WITH THE STATION MIXED USE ON THE SPECIFIC PARCEL DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE SMART STATION IS LOOKING TO INCREASE, UM, THE ALLOWABLE HEIGHT, UM, SLIGHTLY ON THAT SINGLE PARCEL CLOSEST TO TRANSIT.

UM, SO THAT WAS A DISCUSSION, UM, AMONG THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS.

UM, AND IN RESPONSE TO PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT THEY HAD RECEIVED, UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPTED TWO RESOLUTIONS THAT WERE IN YOUR PACKET.

UM, ONE FOR THE EIR RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, DIRECT STAFF TO PREPARE THE FINAL EIR AND THE OTHER BEING ON THE GENERAL PLAN, RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL AFTER CERTIFICATION OF THE EIR ADOPT THE GENERAL PLAN.

SO THAT WAS A HUGE MILESTONE FOR US FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

I EVEN THINK RON UNDERESTIMATED, I THINK WE DECIDED THAT WE HAD BEEN TO PLANNING COMMISSION 19 TIMES, NOT 16 TIMES.

SO, UM, THERE WAS A REAL RECOGNITION WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT, UM, THEY HAD BEEN PART OF THAT PROCESS THAT, UM, THERE HAD BEEN ROBUST CONVERSATION ACROSS ALL OF THE CCBS AND WITH THE COMMUNITY AND, UM, THE GPAC, UM, AND THAT WHAT IS BEFORE YOU, UM, IS THE CULMINATION OF THAT PROCESS.

SO THAT CONCLUDES OUR, UM, PRESENTATION.

AND THEN, AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, THERE ARE ARE TWO RESOLUTIONS BEFORE YOU, ONE WITH A RECOMMENDATION OR, UM, A RESOLUTION DIRECTING STAFF TO PREPARE THE FINAL EIR AND THE OTHER TO PREPARE THE GENERAL PLAN, BRINGING BOTH BACK TO THE COUNCIL, UM, FOR CERTIFICATION AND ADOPTION.

THANK YOU, .

ANIMALS, INSECTS, WE'RE LOCATED THROUGHOUT THOSE PARTICULAR PROPERTIES.

GREAT PRESENTATION.

UM, LONG WINDING ROAD.

UM, NO, NO ONE'S INVITED TO SING YET, BUT, UM, YOU APPRECIATE GETTING US, UH, TO THIS STAGE AND BRINGING IT UP TO COUNCIL FOR WHAT WE'VE HEARD.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER REB A QUESTION.

YEAH, I'VE GOT, UH, TWO AREAS.

UM, THE FIRST AREA IS ALL ABOUT BIOLOGICAL RESOURCES AND, UH, IT'S JUST ONE OF THE FEW BIOLOGISTS AROUND, UM, UP HERE.

I JUST WANTED TO JUST DIG IN A LITTLE DEEPER ON THAT, PARTICULARLY SINCE WE HAD A, UH, LETTER OF CONCERN COME FROM ONE OF OUR LOCAL BIOLOGISTS, UM, ABOUT THE, UM, INADEQUACY OF THE, UM, EIR, UH, AT THIS TIME FOR REALLY GOING INTO THE DEPTH OF OUR BIOLOGICAL RESOURCES, WHAT SEEMS TO BE, WHAT WAS, UH, UM, AND, AND THEN I WENT THROUGH AND READ ALL THE MATERIALS I COULD OVER THE WEEKEND TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT, UH, UM, WHAT MIGHT BE MISSING.

AND, UM, SINCE WE HAVE SEEN SOME OF THE EIRS FROM SPECIFIC PROPERTIES GO INTO VERY DEEP DEPTH OF NUMBERS OF SPECIES, PLANTS,

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AND, UM, AND OUR GENERAL PLAN IN THE ERR IS, IS A LOT MORE GENERIC, UH, RATHER THAN, AND A LOT AS SPECIFIC AS I WAS HOPING TO SEE, UH, MYSELF.

BUT, UH, WHAT SEEMS TO BE LACKING, UM, FIRST ONE IS THE, UM, ACTUALLY SOME GROUND TRUTHING ON, UM, THE, THE SPECIES.

THERE IS A MAP WITH CERTAIN ENDANGERED SPECIES OR SPECIES OF, OF INTEREST, UM, SEEMS TO BE FAIRLY LIMITED.

I WAS JUST WONDERING, WELL, I WANNA HEAR BACK ABOUT HOW MUCH DEPTH OF RESEARCH WAS DONE ON, UH, SPECIFIC SPECIES OF CONCERN OR INTEREST IN THE AREA WAS DONE.

UH, IT'S PROBABLY ADEQUATE, BUT I JUST WANNA JUST DOUBLE CHECK WITH YOU ON THAT FOR THAT, THAT LEVEL OF DEPTH OF, OF SPECIES.

DO YOU WANNA, UH, BREAK AND HAVE 'EM ADDRESS THE QUESTIONS ONE OFF? YEAH.

LET'S, LET'S DO THAT.

SURE.

WELL, THANK YOU.

SO, SO JUST TO, TO COUPLE, MAYBE ADD A COUPLE THINGS TO THAT CONTEXT IS THERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT PIECES.

UH, SENSITIVE SPECIES ARE DISCUSSED NOT ONLY IN THE EIR, BUT ALSO IN THE, UH, GENERAL PLAN ITSELF.

SO IN THE NATURAL RESOURCES SECTION OF THE DOCUMENT, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF, OF, UM, DISCUSSION OF SENSITIVE SPECIES AND THE IMPORTANCE OF SENSITIVE SPECIES, NOT ONLY TO FOR PROTECTION OF THOSE SPECIES, BUT ALSO TO ENSURE THAT FUTURE PROJECTS DO NOT AFFECT THOSE SPECIES AS WELL.

UM, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT A PROGRAMMATIC DOCUMENT LIKE THIS CITYWIDE AND IN REALITY WE'RE GOING BEYOND THE BORDERS OF THE CITY LIMITS AS PART OF THE CONTEXT OF OUR PLAN AREA, UH, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT HIGH LEVEL VIEW.

SO WE USE A, A DATABASE SEARCH TO DETERMINE WHAT THE MOST LIKELY SENSITIVE SPECIES ARE.

THAT'S A, A STANDARD, UH, DATABASE THAT'S USED FOR ALMOST EVERY EIR, UH, THE CDDB DATABASE.

UM, APPENDIX B OF THE, OF THE EIR HAS THE FULL LIST OF EVERY SPECIES THAT WAS HIT IN TERMS OF THE RADIUS THAT WE'RE DOING.

WHEN WE'RE DOING A RADIUS THAT LARGE, TYPICALLY ON A PROJECT LEVEL, YOU MIGHT DO A ONE MILE RADIUS OR A COUPLE HUNDRED FEET RADIUS, UH, IN THE CONTEXT OF THAT PROJECT SITE.

FOR A CITYWIDE, WE HAVE A MUCH BROADER, UH, UH, LIST THAN, THAN CAN BE, UM, TYPICAL ON A PROJECT LEVEL BASIS.

SO WE HAVE A LOT OF SPECIES IDENTIFIED IN TERMS OF MAPPING THOSE.

THE MAPS WHEN YOU'RE LISTING THAT MANY SPECIES CAN BE QUITE ROBUST AND A LOT OF OVERLAP IN THE GRAIN OF DETAIL THAT YOU SEE, UH, IS HARD TO DISTINGUISH COMPARED TO WHEN YOU'RE DOING AN INDIVIDUAL PARCEL LEVEL ANALYSIS.

THE INTENT OF THE ANALYSIS FOR A BIOLOGICAL RESOURCE SECTION, A PROGRAM A ER, IS TO SET THE HIGH LEVEL BAR OF WHAT IS POTENTIALLY OCCURRING IN THE REGION.

AND THEN WHEN INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS COME LATER AND ARE DETERMINE THEIR CONSISTENCY WITH THE GENERAL PLAN OR REQUIRE DISCRETIONARY ACTION WHERE THEY NEED TO DO THEIR OWN SQ ANALYSIS, IT'S FRAMING WHAT THOSE INDIVIDUALS, UH, PROJECTS WOULD NEED TO DO.

SO THE ANALYSIS IN OF ITSELF IDENTIFIES POTENTIAL RESOURCES THAT MAY OCCUR WITHIN THE GREATER CITY, UH, PLAN AREA, AND THEN INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS WOULD NEED TO DO A MORE SITE SPECIFIC ANALYSIS AT A LATER TIME, WHICH WOULD BE MORE OF THAT DIGGING INTO THE GROUND.

GROUND TRUTHING, WE CAN'T SEND BIOLOGISTS TO COVER EVERY SQUARE INCH OF THE ENTIRE CITY AT THIS LEVEL, BUT WE CAN USE SOME OF THE DATABASES AVAILABLE TO GET A ROUGH IDEA OF WHAT THERE'S THE RESOURCES ARE.

AND THEN WHEN INDIVIDUAL PROJECT PROJECTS COME UP, WHETHER THAT'S A YEAR FROM NOW OR 15 YEARS FROM NOW, WHERE THERE MIGHT BE NEW SENSES OF SPECIES THAT AREN'T CURRENTLY ON THE LIST, THEY WOULDN'T DO THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL AND THAT LEVEL OF ANALYSIS.

UH, AS PART OF THAT, AND THEN WE HAVE A NUMBER OF MITIGATION MEASURES.

THERE'S ACTUALLY SEVEN BIOLOGICAL MITIGATION MEASURES THAT ARE DETERMINED, AND THEY ARE A KIND OF STEP-BY-STEP ANALYSIS OF WHAT TO DO IF THERE ARE A, A POTENTIAL LIKELIHOOD OF A RESOURCE BEING ON SITE AND EACH ONE PROGRESSES, IF THERE'S A BASICALLY A, UH, IF A THRESHOLD IS IDENTIFIED THAT THAT ADDITIONAL ANALYSIS WOULD BE DONE.

SO STEP ONE IS TO CONDUCT A BIOLOGICAL RESOURCE ASSESSMENT.

STEP TWO IS DETERMINING WHAT SPECIES IT IS AND THEN HAVING A NUMBER OF STEPS TO, TO DETERMINE WHAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE IN KEEPING WITH CDFW PROTOCOL OR, UH, OTHER PROTOCOLS RELATED TO BIOLOGICAL RESOURCES.

HOPE THAT, HOPE THAT HELPS CLARIFY.

YEAH, I THINK, I THINK IT DOES.

I THINK, UH, JUST A QUICK SUMMARY, UM, RATHER THAN DOING A LOT OF GROUND TRUTHING, 'CAUSE THAT WOULD BE TOO MUCH.

WE ACTUALLY DID THE RESEARCH INTO ALL THE LOTS PROJECTS THAT HAD BEEN DONE IN STUDIES THAT HAD BEEN DONE IN THE PAST AND GRABBED USING THAT RESEARCH TO IDENTIFY THE SPECIES OF CONCERN AND, AND APPLYING IT AS BEST MAPS WE HAVE.

SO, SO AT LEAST WE DID AS, AS GOOD AS WE COULD AT THIS TIME WITHOUT DOING A FULL MILLION DOLLAR STUDY.

YEAH, I GUESS ONE, ONE NICE THING ABOUT THE C-N-A-D-B DATABASE IS THAT IS WHAT IS TYPICALLY OCCURS.

SO IF A, IF A SPECIES IS IDENTIFIED ON AN INDIVIDUAL GROUND TRUTHING EXERCISE, THOSE ARE REPORTED AND THEN GET ADDED INTO THE, TO THE DATABASE AS TIME GOES ON.

AREAS THAT MIGHT BE, UH, EVENTUALLY BECOME WETLANDS OR, OR RIVER PARK, AN ACTUAL DESCRIPTION OF THE QUALITY OF THE ACTUAL, UH, PLANTS AND LANDSCAPE THAT IS ALREADY THERE.

AND, UH, UM, UH, THERE WAS LOTS OF TEXT, UH, THROUGHOUT THE DOCUMENTS ON, UH, WHERE WE WANT TO GO IN HABITAT PRESERVATION AND BIODIVERSITY INCREASE.

SO, UM, THE DESIRE IS THERE, THE LANGUAGE IS THERE FOR, WE WANT TO TAKE WHEREVER OUR NOW AND IMPROVE.

UM, BUT IT DIDN'T QUITE FIND, UM, IN THE, ESPECIALLY IN THE OPEN SPACE AREAS OR UH, UH,

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BECAUSE MY IMPRESSION SO FAR IT IS FAIRLY DEGRADED NON-NATIVE SPECIES THROUGHOUT.

UM, SO WAS THERE, UM, I DIDN'T SEE ANY, UH, A LOT OF MENTION OF THAT, UM, OF ACTUAL QUALITY OF OPEN SPACE.

LET'S, LET'S SOUND GOOD ANSWER.

UM, YEAH, I'LL HAVE TO LOOK IN MORE INTO THAT.

I, I THINK TO, WE HAVE A FAIRLY DISCRE DE DE A FAIRLY DE DETAILED DESCRIPTION OF THE TYPES OF HABITATS THAT EXIST THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

AGAIN, ONE OF THE STRUGGLES WE ARE, WE RUN INTO IS IN TRYING TO, TRYING TO SUMMARIZE ALL THOSE HABITATS.

IT IS A HIGH LEVEL ANALYSIS.

SO IF THERE'S, IF THERE ARE SUGGESTIONS FOR US TO ADD SOME LEVEL OF DETAIL INTO THE FINAL AR, WE ABSOLUTELY COULD DO THAT.

I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE POSSIBLE CRITICAL AREAS, WHICH WOULD BE OUR, OUR RIVER BANK, PETA RIVER BANK, UH, SOME OF THE CREEKS.

I KNOW THERE'S COUNTY DATA ON QUALITY OF OUR CREEK AND CREEK MAINTENANCE, UH, THAT WASN'T QUITE INCLUDED, BUT THAT SOME AREA YOU CAN AT LEAST REFERENCE ON THAT AREA.

AND THERE IS SOME WETLANDS ACTUALLY IN THE NORTH PLUMER AREA THAT WE MAY WANNA DO SOME WORK IN.

THERE MAY BE SOME DESCRIPTIONS THERE OF WHAT'S AVAILABLE.

AND THEN IN OUR HILLSIDES, PARTICULARLY BETWEEN US AND HELEN PUTNAM PARK, THERE'S SOME, UH, THE WEST SIDE HILLS, SOME DESCRIPTIONS THERE THAT WE MAY WANNA JUST AT LEAST REFERENCE, UM, THAT WE HAVE SOME DATA AVAILABLE ON THAT.

SO I WAS JUST LOOKING FOR A LITTLE BETTER, UM, OVERALL VIEW AND ANALYSIS OF THE SPECIES AND QUALITY OF OPEN SPACE AREAS THAT WE DO HAVE HERE WITHIN ACCESS, SO AS RESOURCE, AND YOU'LL BE, UM, AND YOU'LL BE SUBMITTING YOUR LIST OF CONCERNED AREAS.

UM, I CAN PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER ON THAT.

UM, THEN ON THE, UM, LET'S SEE WHAT ELSE? OH, THE LAST ONE, UH, ON THE BIOLOGICAL STORIES IS, UM, WE KNOW ON THE, UH, LOTS OF ANIMAL MOVEMENT AROUND THE CITY MM-HMM .

AND THERE'S DOCUMENT WITH THE MAPS GOING AROUND AND WE HAVE HABITATS DESCRIBED, ESPECIALLY IN OUR RIPARIAN, THAT MOVEMENT MAY OCCUR.

BUT, UM, UH, THIS PER, UM, THE PERSON THAT SAID, OKAY, THERE, THERE MAY BE BETTER MAPS SOMEWHERE ON WILDLIFE CORRIDORS, NOT JUST ANIMALS, BUT ALSO MAYBE SOME BIRDS, BATS, BEES AND THE LIKE.

UM, DO WE HAVE ANY, HOW MUCH RESEARCH WAS DONE OR HOW MUCH BACKGROUND OR IS THERE ANY DOCUMENTS OUT THERE RESEARCH THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE ON WILDLIFE CORRIDORS OF ALL THE DIFFERENT SPECIES? HOW MUCH IS AVAILABLE IF, IF, AND IF NOT THEN, THEN, UH, DO WE NEED TO HAVE THAT INCLUDED IN THE AREA? WILDLIFE CORRIDORS IS INCLUDED IN THE DOCUMENT.

IT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF THE IMPACT ANALYSIS QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE AS PART OF THE, AS PART OF IT, THE MAPPING IS, UM, IS NOT FULLY THERE.

WE HAVE CRITICAL HABITATS IN FIGURE 4.4 DASH TWO IN THE EIR SECTION.

UM, THERE'S ALSO OPEN SPACE AND, AND QUARTERS INCLUDED AS PART OF THE GENERAL PLAN.

BUT IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES THAT ARE, THAT THE PUBLIC OR OR CITY WOULD LIKE TO SEE, WE ABSOLUTELY CAN ADD MORE DETAILS IN IF NEED BE.

BECAUSE ONE OF THE CRITICISMS WAS, UH, WILDLIFE CORRIDOR DATA THAT YOU WERE PROVIDED IS, WAS NOT ACCURATE, UM, TO WHAT WAS ALREADY, UH, BEEN FOUND BY OTHERS IN THIS, UM, STOMACH MOUNTAIN CORRIDORS AND THE LIKE.

SO THAT'S ONE TO CHECK AND WE'LL, WE'LL NOTE THE DA, IF THAT'S A SPECIFIC COMMENT THAT'S COME IN, YOU'LL MAKE SP SPECIFIC REDRESS, SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THAT.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

SO JUST, JUST GO AHEAD AND, AND, AND LOOK AT THAT IF WE CAN.

AND, AND, AND AS CITY STAFF HAD MENTIONED, WE HAVE RECEIVED A NUMBER OF COMMENTS.

IF THERE IS ADDITIONAL RESOURCES THAT COULD BE, COULD SUPPLEMENT THE IR ANALYSIS THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE AS PART OF THE DRAFT.

I WE'LL ABSOLUTELY INCLUDE THAT AS PART OF THE FINAL DRAFT.

VERY GOOD.

I JUST WANTED TO CHECK ON THE WILDLIFE AND, UH, AND BIOLOGICAL RESOURCES.

AND THE NEXT ONE WOULD BE ABOUT THE HYPE.

I THINK I'LL LET OTHERS COVER, UM, BEFORE WE GET BACK TO THE HEIGHT OF BUILDINGS.

WHO WANTS TO, UH, JUMP IN NEXT ON ANY TOPIC? COUNCIL MEMBER QUINN.

UH, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK ALL OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS, STAFF AND THE, UH, GENERAL PLAN TEAM FOR ALL OF THEIR TIME AND EFFORT ON THIS.

I KNOW IT'S A LOT OF HOURS.

UH, DOES THE LAND USE PATTERN IN THE, IN THE GENERAL PLAN ALIGN WITH INFRASTRUCTURE RESOURCES? SO IN OTHER WORDS, OR FOR EXAMPLE, DOES A PLAN OR PROMOTE GROWTH THAT OUTPACES OUR WATER RESOURCES? I THINK THE SIMPLE ANSWER IS, WELL, TO YOUR SECOND QUESTION, NO, TO YOUR FIRST QUESTION.

DETAILED WATER AND WASTEWATER ASSESSMENTS.

, YES, THERE ARE SUFFICIENT.

THE, THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE OR PLANNED INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE SYSTEM IS ALIGNED VERY NICELY WITH THE FUTURE SETTLEMENT PATTERN.

UM, HELPED TREMENDOUSLY BY THE FACT THAT WE'RE NOT GROWING OUTWARDS.

AND SO YOU HAVE EXISTING SYSTEMS BUILT FOR THE EXISTING FOOTPRINT AND THEN THE, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE ANALYSIS WAS DONE, UM, BECAUSE YOU, AT THE SAME TIME AS THE GP WAS BEING COMPLETED, WERE COMPLETING, UH,

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THEY CONFIRMED THAT, UM, SYSTEMS EITHER EXISTING OR AS PLANNED WILL SUPPORT THE PLANNED GROWTH.

YOU HAVE, YOU HAD TECHNICAL MEMOS, I BELIEVE THAT SUPPORTED THE DECEMBER AGENDA PACKET IN THAT REGARD.

YEAH, THANK YOU.

WAS JUST, UH, WANTED TO GET THAT ON THE RECORD.

UM, UH, SO KIND OF ANOTHER GENERAL QUESTION ON THE WHOLE, DOES THE GENERAL PLAN LAY THE GROUNDWORK TO PROMOTE FLEXIBILITY FOR BUSINESSES IN PETALUMA? OR DOES IT MAKE OUR BUSINESS ENVIRONMENT MORE RIGID? , IT, IT ABSOLUTELY DOES, UM, CREATE MORE FLEXIBILITY IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS.

SO WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION, UH, WITH THE GPAC, UH, WHEN WE WERE GOING OVER A LOT OF THE LAND USE DESIGNATION STANDARDS, WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE BUILDING IN THE MAXIMUM FLEXIBILITY.

SO, UH, THERE'S KIND OF A, UM, LONGSTANDING DISCUSSION ABOUT MIXED USE IN TERMS OF THE WAY IT'S, IT'S DEFINED IN THE CURRENT GENERAL PLAN.

UM, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF REQUIREMENTS FOR A ROBUST AMOUNT OF RETAIL, UH, IN AREAS THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT RETAIL MARKET ANYMORE.

WE ACTUALLY KIND OF LOST A LOT OF THAT ALMOST IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE LAST GENERAL PLAN WAS ADOPTED.

UH, SO RIGHT SIZING SOME OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS THERE.

ALSO, WE HAVE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UM, ELEMENT, UM, CALLS FOR A LOT OF CONTINUED IMPLEMENTATION AND EFFORT TO INCREASE FLEXIBILITY TO, UM, EASE PERMITTING, UM, OBSTACLES.

UM, SO IN BOTH THE LAND USE PATTERN AND IN THE POLICY DISCUSSION WITHIN THE DOCUMENT.

AND RON, ANYTHING TO ADD? OKAY.

SO THAT'S GREAT THAT THIS GENERAL PLAN IS GONNA HELP BUSINESS.

ANOTHER QUESTION ON THE WHOLE, DOES THIS GENERAL PLAN PROMOTE THE CREATION OF HOMES THAT MIDDLE CLASS FAMILIES CAN AFFORD OR MAKE, MAKE IT HARDER TO BUILD THOSE HOMES? WE CAN ALL, WE CAN ALL SHARE, YEAH.

IT, IT GREATLY EXPANDS THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR BUILDING A, A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT HOUSING TYPES ACROSS THE CITY.

UM, SO IN EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS, IT, UM, GOES, IT, IT, IT PUSHES THE CITY BEYOND THE STATE REQUIREMENTS FOR ALLOWING INFILL DEVELOPMENT.

AND THEN IN THOSE AREAS THAT HEATHER MENTIONED, WHERE WE'RE, UM, ADDING FLEXIBILITY THROUGH MIXED USE DESIGNATIONS, UM, PROVIDES TREMENDOUS FLEXIBILITY FOR A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF, OR USING HOUSING UNIT TYPES SIZES, UM, TO MATCH BOTH THE DE SHIFTING DEMOGRAPHICS IN TERMS OF THE AGING POPULATION, BUT ALSO THE NEEDS FOR YOUNGER FAMILIES TO FIND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

SO THERE'S VERY MUCH A DRIVER FOR MUCH OF THE GP GENERALLY AND THE LAND USE AND HOUSING ELEMENTS SPECIFICALLY.

GREAT.

THAT'S, THANK YOU.

SO, SO FAR IT'S GONNA HELP HOUSING AND HELP BUSINESSES.

SO WE'RE BATTING A THOUSAND.

LASTLY, DOES FUTURE GROWTH, UM, DOES THE FUTURE GROWTH THAT'S PROJECTED, UH, OUTPACE SERVICE REQUIREMENTS, OR IN OTHER WORDS, IS IT A FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE GENERAL PLAN? SO WE DID BEFORE, YOU MAY REMEMBER BEFORE WE, UM, CAME BACK LAST DECEMBER WITH THE PREFERRED LAND USE MAP.

WE DID WORK WITH, UM, STRATEGIC ECONOMICS, WHO'S ON THE GENERAL PLAN TEAM, UM, TO LOOK AT THE LAND USE PATTERN AND KIND OF DO A, A, A GUT CHECK.

ARE WE, ARE WE EXACTLY THAT, ARE WE BEING, UH, FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE WITH THE WAY WE'RE LOOKING AT GROWTH WITHIN THE CITY? AND, UM, THERE, THAT WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET AS WELL.

UM, AND LOOKED AT IT IS RELATIVELY NEUTRAL IS MY RECOLLECTION THAT, UM, THE END RESULT IS ALMOST, UH, I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT NUMBER, BUT IT WAS VERY CLOSE TO BEING NEUTRAL EVEN WITH, UM, THE GROWTH PROJECTED.

SO HOUSING, JOBS, BEING FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE, THOSE ARE LIKE KEY THINGS THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT.

SO THAT, THAT'S ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS.

WONDERFUL.

WAS CREATED TO ALLOW, UM, THE COUNCIL TO USE IT IN THE FUTURE.

WHO WANTS TO, UM, QUESTIONS NEXT VICE MAYOR.

HI.

THANK YOU FOR THE NICE PRESENTATION.

UM, DO WE HAVE ANY PARCELS THAT ARE GONNA BE DESIGNATED FLEX OR THAT ARE NO, THE, IT WAS CREATED THAT LAND USE DESIGNATION

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UM, BUT THERE IS NOTHING PROPOSED WITH THAT LAND USE DESIGNATION IN THE PREFERRED LAND USE MAP.

SO WE ARE INTENDING TO KEEP IT AS A LAND USE DESIGNATION? YES.

AND THEN, UM, FOR PARCELS THAT CHANGED FROM, YOU KNOW, COULD HAVE BEEN BUSINESS PARK OR INDUSTRIAL OR SOME FORM OF, UM, COMMERCIAL FOR THOSE THAT CHANGED TO MORE OF A HOUSING DIRECTION.

UM, AND, AND DID OVER THESE LAST SEVERAL MEETINGS, HAVE WE, SINCE I KNOW EVERYBODY THAT WAS IN A ZONE THAT COULD POTENTIALLY CHANGE, GOT NOTIFIED ABOUT IT, BUT PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY GOT CHANGED, DID THEY RECEIVE ANY SORT OF NOTIFICATION THAT YOUR ZONING IS CHANGING? UH, WE SENT OUT, UM, NOTIFICATION, UM, BROADLY AND GENERALLY, BUT NOT A SPECIFIC, YOURS IS CHANGING FROM X TO Y AT THIS POINT.

UM, AFTER THE INITIAL, WE DID IT INITIALLY TO EVERYONE THAT WAS SEEING A CHANGE.

AND SO WAS THERE ANY SORT OF ASSESSMENT MADE AS TO WHAT KIND OF AN IMPACT THAT COULD HAVE HAD ON OR COULD HAVE ON THEIR FUTURE PLANS, THEIR BUSINESS PLANS, THEIR SUCCESSION PLANS, UM, ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THEIR ABILITY TO CONTINUE TO PASS THAT PROPERTY OR BUSINESS ON? UM, SO WHEN WE DID SEND IT OUT ORIGINALLY, WE MET WITH A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO GOT, GOT NOTIFICATION THAT YOU MAY BE SEEING A CHANGE IN YOUR LAND USE DESIGNATION.

UM, WE MET WITH SEVERAL OF 'EM TO TALK THROUGH THE, THE PROS, THE CONS, THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT IT MEANS, WHAT WHAT THE CITY WAS LOOKING AT DOING, UM, ANSWERED QUESTIONS.

WE ALSO HEARD FROM A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO ASKED FOR OTHER SPECIFIC CHANGES, UM, THAT WERE BROUGHT BEFORE THE COUNCIL.

YOU MAY REMEMBER A SHORT LIST, UM, OF AREAS OUTSIDE OF THE AREAS OF CHANGE.

UH, 'CAUSE AS YOU MAY RECALL, UM, THE LAND USE CHANGES THEMSELVES ARE REALLY FOCUSED ON THOSE AREAS OF CHANGE.

IT WAS NOT SIGNIFICANT CHANGE ACROSS, UM, THE CITY, BUT IT WAS FOCUSED IN THOSE AREAS OF CHANGE.

AND MANY OF 'EM WERE LARGELY LATERAL.

UM, SO WE DID MAKE STAFF DID MAKE THEMSELVES AVAILABLE, MET WITH A NUMBER OF THE, UM, HOMEOWNERS OR PROPERTY OWNERS, UM, TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AROUND THAT.

BUT FOR ANYBODY WHO'S ACT, WHO'S ACTUALLY CHANGED, THERE WAS NO, HEY, YOURS, THIS IS HAPPENING.

YOURS IS CHANGING.

YOU KNOW, THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

WELL, THERE WAS VERY FEW CHANGES FROM THE LAST TIME WE DID THAT.

UM, SO I'M, I'M NOT, WE, WE HAVE NOT DONE ANOTHER ROUND OF INDIVIDUAL, UM, PROPERTY OWNER LETTERS.

AND THEN, UM, FOR MAKE OR MICRO, I, I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND THE PURPOSE OF IT.

I MEAN, IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO BUSINESS PARK AND, UM, YOU KNOW, ARGUABLY THE ONLY DIFFERENCE HAS TO DO WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, FOOD SERVICE.

UM, HOW COME THAT CAN'T JUST BE FOLDED IN UNDER BUSINESS PARK? UM, AS YOU MAY RECALL, I, I THINK IT WAS EITHER THE APRIL OR JUNE WORKSHOP WE HAD WITH COUNCIL LAST YEAR, WE DISCUSSED THAT THAT SPECIFIC QUESTION IN DEPTH, UM, PRESENTED SOME OPTIONS FOR COUNCIL.

AND THEN COUNCIL PROVIDED SPECIFIC DIRECTION TO RETAIN BOTH.

AND I BELIEVE IT LARGELY HAD TO DO WITH, UM, GPAC INPUT ON THAT PARTICULAR QUESTION.

UM, AND SO YOU'RE RIGHT, THEY'RE, THEY'RE SIMILAR, BUT THEY'RE NOT IDENTICAL.

UM, AND SO AT THE TIME, COUNCIL SAW VALUE TO RETAINING BOTH, AND SO WE FOLLOWED COUNCIL DIRECTION.

UM, THERE WILL BE ZONING DISTRICTS FOR EACH OF THOSE.

'CAUSE IT, IT, UM, I MEAN THEY, THEY SEEM SO SIMILAR TO ME.

IT'S LIKE, WHY NOT? BUT IT MAKES ME WONDER, YOU KNOW, WITH WITH THE IZO NOT BEING UPDATED AND DONE, LIKE WHAT IS MAKE OR MICRO GONNA ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE? IS THERE A REASON THAT WE'RE KEEPING THAT SEPARATE AND ON ITS OWN WHEN IT'S NOT FULLY CONSTRAINED AND DEFINED RIGHT NOW? SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY CAN SPEAK TO THAT, BUT I MEAN, I STILL, I STILL DON'T SEE, UM, A PURPOSE TO KEEPING IT.

THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

I'D LIKE TO KIND OF PARAPHRASE ON THAT.

UM, WHEN THE IEO DOES COME THROUGH, UM, WILL THESE TWO HAVE, UH, DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE CAN LOOK AND CONTRAST AT THAT TIME? AND, AND, AND, UM, REAFFIRM THAT THE DISTINCTION, WHAT THE DISTINCTIONS ARE, OR REAFFIRM THERE ISN'T A LOT OF DISTINCTION IS THE IZO AN OPPORTUNITY FOR DISCUSSION.

SO THE IZO,

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UM, AND THEY WOULD, UM, GO THROUGH EACH OF THE LAND USES AND THE PERMIT LEVEL REQUIRED.

UM, SO THAT WILL LOOK MORE FINE GRAINED AT, AT WHICH USES, UH, WHAT DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS MORE SPECIFICALLY ARE ALLOWED IN, UH, A, LET'S SAY A BUSINESS PARK ZONING DISTRICT VERSUS A MAKER MICRO BUSINESS ZONING DISTRICT.

THAT WAS MY LAST QUESTION.

AND, UM, I HAD A, A, UH, A COUPLE, I, AND I, I MAY HAVE ASKED THIS, AND THERE'S THREE QUESTIONS I WANT TO TOUCH ON.

AND, UH, THE, THE FIRST ONE IS, YOU KNOW, I I WANT TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE PUBLIC WHAT THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW AND, AND, UM, WHAT WE HAVE, UM, WHAT WE HAVE ON THE TABLE HERE IN FRONT OF US.

AND I'D LOVE SLIDE 33 THAT YOU GUYS HAD THAT WOULD BE, I'M GONNA COME BACK AND ASK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.

AND THEN I WANTED TO ASK, HOW DOES THE GENERAL PLAN TREATS, PARKS? UH, YOU KNOW, UM, CAN YOU REHASH FOR THE PUBLIC, DO WE HAVE ENOUGH PARK IN OUR INVENTORY? YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW DO WE HAVE A MEASURE OF SERVICE IN A GENERAL PLAN? AND, UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, HOW DO WE AFFORD WHAT WE DOES? HOW DO WE AFFORD WHAT WE HAVE A FACTOR INTO A GENERAL PLAN? AND HOW DO WE AFFORD WHAT WE WANT TO HAVE? UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF SECOND QUESTIONS ABOUT PARKS.

AND THEN, UH, THE THIRD WILL GO INTO THE EIGHT STORY CONVERSATION.

I BELIEVE WE HEARD A LOT OF, UM, UH, PUBLIC FEEDBACK, AND I THINK WE REALLY DESERVE TO, TO HIT ON THAT FOR A MINUTE.

SO, UM, I'M THINKING THAT THE PARKS QUESTION'S THE EASIEST AND CAN WE ADDRESS THE PARKS QUESTION FIRST? SURE.

UM, GREAT QUESTION.

UM, AS YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A VERY, UM, CONSERVATIVE ATTORNEY IN ERIC DANLEY , AND HE, UM, WHILE WE WERE REFINING THE FINAL LANGUAGE OF THE PARKS ELEMENT, UM, HAD US ABSOLUTELY CONFIRM THE CURRENT LEVEL OF SERVICE, UH, FOR EXISTING PARKS.

SO THAT, UM, PER, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG HERE, ERIC QUIMBEE ACT, UM, THE GENERAL PLAN THEN COULD, UM, REQUIRE DEDICATION OF ADDITIONAL PARK SPACE AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL OF DISCRETIONARY LAND USE ACTIONS IN THE FUTURE.

AND SO, UM, SO TO ANSWER, IF I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION CORRECTLY, YOU'RE CURRENTLY BELOW THE TARGET LEVEL SERVICE AND THE GENERAL PLAN VERY EXPLICITLY HAS MECHANISMS FOR TRYING TO GET THE CITY TO ITS LEVEL OF SERVICE GOAL FOR PARKS.

UM, THE PART OF THAT, I, I CAN'T ANSWER SPECIFICALLY, IT'S NOTED IN THE GENERAL PLAN AS AN ONGOING CHALLENGE IS THE MAINTENANCE QUESTION.

WE KNOW THAT ALONG WITH ADDITIONAL PARK SPACE COMES ADDITIONAL COST OF MAINTENANCE.

UM, AND THAT'S MORE OF A GENERAL FUND, UH, QUESTION THAT, UH, THE GENERAL PLAN DOESN'T SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS.

BUT, UH, IS THAT ALSO AN IMPACT FEE, UH, DISCUSSION? WELL, IMPACT FEES CANNOT BE USED FOR MAINTENANCE AS MY UNDERSTANDING.

UM, BUT THEY CAN BE USED, THEY ARE USED FOR ACQUIRING LAND, UM, AND DEVELOPING, UH, PARKS.

SO, UM, TO ACTUALLY CREATE THE PARKS, THAT'S WHAT DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEES, UM, CAN, CAN BE USED FOR.

UM, AND THEN ALSO THE GENERAL PLAN DOES IDENTIFY SOME SPECIFIC PROPOSED PARKS SIMILAR TO THE WAY THE CURRENT GENERAL PLAN DOES AND EVEN LOOKS, UM, AHEAD A LITTLE BIT IN TERMS OF, FOR INSTANCE, IF AS PART OF THE, UH, PETALUMA NORTH SPECIFIC NORTH STATION SPECIFIC PLAN, IF THE CITY, UM, EXPANDED THE UGB AND EXTEND NEW LAND, THEN IT'S IDENTIFYING, THEN WE MIGHT NEED TO LOOK AT MORE PARK SPACE.

'CAUSE WE WOULD BE BRINGING IN LAND AND THEORETICALLY BRINGING IN, UM, MORE POPULATION IN THAT AREA THAT WE HAVEN'T PLANNED FOR.

SO EVEN LOOKING AT THAT, SOME OF THOSE SPACES THAT WE DON'T KNOW YET, BUT WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE DO KNOW WE'RE CONSIDERING IT AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE MAINTAINING THAT, UM, THAT RATIO OF ACRES OF PARK TO OUR POPULATION.

AND WE'RE NOT ALLOWED, OR WE'RE NOT CURRENTLY PROJECTING ANY OF THE NORTH RIVER GREENWAY AS PARKLANDS AT THIS TIME.

THAT'S, UH, CORRECT.

YOU MEAN, UM, UP NORTH LYNCH CREEK, NORTH OF THE WEIR? YEAH.

I WANNA SAY IT'S A SEVEN ACRE PROPOSED PARK, UM, ON, UM, THE, THE JOHNSON PARCEL ON THE, WE, THE EAST SIDE OF THE RIVER, THAT LARGE UNDEVELOPED PARCEL.

SO THERE'S, WELL, I WILL SAY THERE IS, I BELIEVE, AND IT'S IN THE CURRENT GENERAL PLAN, AND WE CARRIED IT FORWARD.

THERE IS A, UM,

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UM, SO THERE ARE SOME PARKLAND IN THAT AREA IDENTIFIED AND CARRIED FORWARD FROM THE OLD GENERAL PLAN TO THE NEW JOB PLAN.

AND CERTAINLY OUR RIVER BUFFERS INCREASED SO MUCH THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, BUT, BUT A RIVER BUFFER CAN'T COUNT AS PARKLAND, OR CAN SOME EXTENT OF IT CAN'T.

I MEAN, IF IT'S ABOVE THE A HUNDRED YEAR AS IT, IT'S, IT'S NOT, UM, IT IS NOT THE SAME AS PARKLAND, LIKE IN THE WAY WE IDENTIFY IT.

UH, BUT WE ALSO SAY BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S, IT'S OPEN SPACE, IT'S RIPARIAN HABITAT, IT'S, UM, SPECIES PROTECTION.

IT'S NOT BALL FIELDS OR, YOU KNOW, THOSE KIND OF, UM, BUT IT'S MORE, AND IT DOES CALL FOR, UM, TRAILS AND ACCESS TO BE PART OF THAT RIVER BUFFER.

UNIQUE IS YOUR CREATIVE CULTURE AND THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT.

I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE US SET A POINT WHERE WE SAY WE HAVE, THIS PLAN GOT US TO THE POINT WHERE WE DO HAVE THE, MEET THE GOAL OF PARK DESIRED.

UM, THE SECOND PART OF THAT WAS, UM, UH, WHAT'S THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, UM, THIS PLAN, UM, PLAN AND WHAT WE HAVE? AND, AND THIS, THIS, YOU, YOU'VE HIT ON THAT SEVERAL TIMES.

ONE, YOU, I MEAN, CLIMATE COMES UP AGAIN AND, UM, AND, AND BETTER ADDRESS OF FLOODING.

AND, BUT IN YOUR WORDS, WHAT WOULD YOU THINK THAT THE, WHAT'S THE THING YOU'RE MOST PROUD OF MOVING US FORWARD HERE? AND FOR ME, I'M SEEING CORRIDOR GROWTH, CORE GROWTH AS AS BEING ONE OF THE BIG CHANGES.

WHAT ARE THE, WHAT ARE THE TOP COUPLE THINGS WE WE CAN COMMUNICATE ON THIS? YEAH, AND I'LL START, AND OTHERS CAN ADD, UM, THEIR, THEIR HIGHLIGHTS.

UM, THE EVOLUTION OF, UM, THE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, A LOT MORE, UM, DISCUSSION ABOUT THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS, HOW TO SEE THEM EVOLVE TO, UM, NOW IT'S WORKING, UH, TO BETTER SERVE PETALUMA.

UM, AND THAT'S BOTH, UM, DIFFERENT HOUSING, FACILITATING DIFFERENT HOUSING, UH, SMALLER LOT SIZES, DIFFERENT HOUSING PRODUCTS, BUT ALSO, UM, A A BETTER MIX OF, OF USES WITHIN THE AREAS THAT HISTORICALLY HAVE BEEN, UM, SINGLE USE, UM, AREAS IN THE CITY.

SO LIKE, UM, SPA, NON-RESIDENTIAL, UM, USES WITHIN THOSE AREAS.

UM, HAVING, HAVING MORE OF THAT INTEGRATION.

UM, SO THOSE ARE TWO THINGS ON MY MIND.

ANYTHING, UH, GREAT QUESTION.

UM, I HAD THE PLEASURE OF BEING INVOLVED IN WRITING THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY FOR THE PLAN.

AND SO AS A PLANNER WHO THINKS VERY COMPREHENSIVELY ABOUT WHAT MAKES FOR A, A HEALTHY, LIVABLE COMMUNITY, PETALUMA IS HITTING ALL, ALL THE, YOU KNOW, IT'S FIRING ON 12 CYLINDERS IF WE STILL HAD GAS POWERED CARS IN PETALUMA.

UM, JUST TO GIVE YOU A FEW EXAMPLES, AS AN EXTREMELY ROBUST, UM, ROAD ROADMAP AND PATHWAY FOR ESTABLISHING AN INTERCONNECTED, UM, NATURAL, UH, HABITAT, WILDLIFE CORRIDOR, TRAILS NETWORK ACROSS THE CITY.

IT'S NOT THERE YET, OBVIOUSLY, BUT THE PLAN PROVIDES THE, THE MECHANISMS FOR ACHIEVING THAT ON THE, ON THE SAFETY AND CLIMATE ADAPTATION FRONT, I, AGAIN, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY OTHER, UH, JURISDICTION IN CALIFORNIA THAT HAS A FLOOD RESILIENCE FRAMEWORK OR ELEMENT SPECIFICALLY.

AND THE HEAVY INVESTMENT YOU MADE IN THE RESEARCH REQUIRED TO DO THAT REALLY WELL AND VERY ROBUSTLY IS UNIQUE.

AND I THINK YOU SHOULD BE VERY PROUD OF YOURSELVES FOR BOTH PRIORITIZING THE, THE PRESERVATION OF THE NATURAL RESOURCE BASE OF THAT RIVER, BUT ALSO PROTECTING EXISTING PROPERTY AND FUTURE PEOPLE FROM FUTURE FLOODS AND SEA LEVEL RISE.

UM, AND THEN, UM, ONE OTHER I'LL NOTE IS, OR TWO OTHERS, LIKE, SORRY, FORGIVE ME, UH, IS YOU HAVE A ARTS CREATIVITY AND, UH, CULTURE ELEMENT RECOGNIZING THAT PART OF WHAT MAKES PETALUMA

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AND YOU, UH, VERY MUCH PRIORITIZE THAT AND HAVE MECHANISMS FOR PROTECTING AND GROWING THAT.

AND THEN FI FINALLY, WE'VE MENTIONED IT BEFORE, BUT YOU HAVE AN ELEMENT SPECIFIC TO GOVERNMENTS GOVERNANCE AND IMPLEMENTA IMPLEMENTATION, RECOGNIZING THAT IT, THE PROCESS REALLY JUST BEGINS WITH ADOPTION OF THE GENERAL PLAN.

YOU THEN NEED TO, TO IMPLEMENT IT, TO ACHIEVE THE VISION.

THANKS.

I'LL JUST CLOSE QUICKLY.

I, I DO THINK, UM, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING FOR EVERYONE.

UM, THERE'S AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF OUR HISTORY.

UM, I'M SO GLAD THAT YOU BROUGHT UP, UM, SLIDE 33, 'CAUSE THAT, THAT REALLY TOUCHES ON A LOT OF THE POINTS, A LOT OF THE GOALS, A LOT OF THE OBJECTIVES THAT THE COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY WANTED TO ACCOMPLISH, AND WHAT WE ALL WANT, UM, AS CITIZENS, UM, AS WE GET CLOSER TO THAT MID-CENTURY MARK.

UM, SO I, I DO THINK THERE'S, UM, PRESERVATION.

THERE'S SOMETHING THERE FOR, YOU KNOW, OUR CURRENT POPULATION.

UM, AND WE'RE SETTING OUR FUTURE PETALUMA UP FOR SUCCESS, UM, AND RESILIENCE.

UH, I, I, I THINK THE WAY, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER QUINT FRAMED IT UP WORKS REALLY WELL FOR US ALL TOO, THE HOUSING AND BUSINESS AND THOSE ARE IMPORTANT.

UM, SO THEN THE THIRD ONE WAS, UM, ALL THE FEEDBACK WE'VE GOT ON, ON THE EIGHT STORY.

AND, UM, THERE'S, UM, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE POINT IS TO HEAR THE COMMUNITY WHEN THEY TALK AND, AND THEN TO BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN WHY YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU DID OR WHY YOU DID IT AND, AND HAVE THAT DIALOGUE.

SO I'M ANXIOUS TO HAVE THE DIALOGUE, UM, FOR ME, I'M WILLING TO WAIT TILL AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT TO CONTINUE THE DIALOGUE.

UM, BUT, UM, I'M ONE, ARE THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS ON THE DIOCESE COUNCIL MEMBER SCH RIBS? JUST SINCE WE, UH, HAVE THE, THE NORTH STATION AREA, UH, UH, NORTH OF CORONA IS, IS IN PROCESS OF A MASTER PLAN.

UH, WILL WE BE ABLE TO GET AT LEAST TO A POINT WHERE THE, THE CONCEPTS AND THE PLAN THAT WILL BE THERE, IS THAT GONNA BE, UM, WE'LL HAVE THAT BEFORE WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO DO THE FINAL, UH, GENERAL PLAN.

UM, IS THERE ANYTHING UNIQUE THAT WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT NOW FOR THAT NORTH STATION AREA? UH, SO WE ARE, UM, THIS IS ALL, UM, PART OF THE PLAN, PART OF THE BIG PLAN FOR GENERAL PLAN THAT REALLY SETS THE SCAFFOLDING.

UH, AND THEN WE'RE, UM, EITHER UNDERWAY OR, UM, WELL UNDERWAY, UH, WITH RESPECT TO THE SPECIFIC PLANS.

UH, SO THERE'S NOTHING, UM, REALLY WE NEED TO SHIFT.

UM, IT'S SOMETHING, UH, AS AN EXAMPLE THIS THURSDAY WE'RE GOING TO PLANNING COMMISSION TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION, UM, TO REPORT BACK TO COMMISSION ON WHAT WE'VE HEARD THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS.

UM, AND SO I DON'T ANTICIPATE, AND, YOU KNOW, ANY NEED TO COURSE CORRECT OR ANYTHING WITH RESPECT TO THE GENERAL PLAN.

WE'RE RIGHT ON SCHEDULE.

IT'LL BE A SEPARATE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT, UM, ANALYSIS.

IT'LL HAVE ITS OWN, UM, YOU KNOW, COMPLETE PROCESS.

UM, AND IT WOULD FOLLOW THE ADOPTION HOPEFUL ADOPTION AND CERTIFICATION OF THE GENERAL PLAN.

GOOD.

SO IT, IT WILL BE LIMITED TO THE 65 FOOT HEIGHT FOR ANY BUILDINGS ON THAT AREA ACCORDING TO THE CURRENT GENERAL PLAN.

SO A AGAIN, IF THERE IS A, THROUGH THE, UH, COMMUNITY CONVERSATIONS, UM, THERE IS, UH, INTEREST, UH, TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

IT'LL COME BEFORE PLANNING COMMISSION COME BEFORE COMMUNITY CITY COUNCIL.

UM, AS IT STANDS, THE INTENT WOULD BE TO BUILD OFF OF THE EXISTING LAND USES THAT ARE PRESENTED, UH, BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.

GOOD.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT DISCUSSION NOW BEFORE WE TALKED ABOUT THE SMART STATION, UH, DOWNTOWN.

WONDERFUL.

COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLE.

UH, THE COUNCIL HAS THE GENERAL PLAN IN FRONT OF THEM FOR CONSIDERATION.

UM, MOST OF MY QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ASKED, UM, AND THIS IS MAYBE A SMALL TANGENTIAL ONE I'M GETTING TOWARD IMPLEMENTATION.

UM, WHEN WILL WE SEE THE ZONING CODE COME BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR FIRST CONVERSATIONS? SO WE ARE LOOKING AT A THREE PHASE APPROACH, I WOULD SAY IN THE NEXT, UH, I THINK SIX WEEKS.

IT'S SOMEWHERE IN THE EARLY, UM, SUMMER TIMEFRAME THAT WE'LL HAVE A CONVERSATION.

AND THEN, UH, HEATHER ALLUDED TO IT.

UM, WE WILL EITHER COME AS PART OF, UM, THE FIRST PHASE OF ZONING, COURT ZONING CODE REFORM WOULD BE ACCOMPLISHED, UM, ALMOST IMMEDIATELY AFTER, UM,

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WITH THAT, UM, LET'S ASK FOR, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT AND, AND, UH, HAVE WE RECEIVED ANY EMAILS WE HAVE? WE RECEIVED 34 COMMENTS AHEAD OF THE MEETING, UH, AND ANY WE RECEIVED DURING THE MEETING, WE CAN POST AFTERWARDS.

AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I DO HAVE ONE CARD AND NOW TWO CARDS.

IF THERE'S ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT A COMMENT CARD TO SPEAK ON THIS TOPIC.

NOW IS THE MOMENT.

LET'S, UH, START PUBLIC COMMENT WITH, UH, DARREN RACK IN TO BE FOLLOWED BY TOM GAFFEY.

MAYOR.

THERE WE GO.

HOMEOWNERS ARE LEVERAGED.

TECH SUPPORT TEAM HERE.

UH, THANK YOU MAYOR.

THANK YOU COUNCIL.

DARREN KUSON, PLANNING COMMISSIONER FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS.

A HEART OF MY COMMENTS ARE BUILT ENVIRONMENT MATTERS, UH, IN THE CONTEXT OF THIS GENERAL PLAN, LAND USE DISCUSSION, RESIDENTS LIKE ME WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT EIGHT STORY BUILDINGS AROUND THE DOWNTOWN SMART AREA AND THE SURROUNDING SIX STORY UPZONING ARE NOT MORALLY BEREFT.

WE ARE NOT SIMPLY NIMBYS.

THESE ARE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY WHO INVESTED HERE OFTEN MAKING THE BIGGEST FINANCIAL DECISION OF THEIR LIVES, AND THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE AND SENSE OF PLACE, BOTH OF WHICH ARE DEEPLY TIED TO THE SIZE AND SCALE OF THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT AROUND THEM.

THAT PERSPECTIVE IS PERFECTLY VALID AND DESERVES REAL CONSIDERATION AND CANNOT BE DISREGARDED BECAUSE OF HOUSING AFFORDABILITY CHALLENGES.

HOUSING IS PAINFULLY UNAFFORDABLE IN CALIFORNIA, ESPECIALLY IN DESIRABLE COMMUNITIES LIKE PETALUMA.

BUT THESE COM BUT THESE COSTS ARE DRIVEN BY STRUCTURAL FORCES THAT ARE LARGELY OUTSIDE LOCAL CONTROL.

THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION, FINANCING, INSURANCE, LABOR, SPECULATIVE INVESTMENT, AND AN ECONOMIC SYSTEM WHERE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES EXPECTED NOT ONLY TO HOUSE PEOPLE, BUT TO CONTINUOUSLY RETAIN OR INCREASE FINANCIAL VALUE.

INVESTORS DEPEND ON APPRECIATING ASSETS.

BANKS UNDERWRITE AGAINST AN INCREASINGLY RISING COMP MARKET.

AND CONSTRUCTION IN CALIFORNIA IS EXTRAORDINARILY EXPENSIVE, NOT TO MENTION WHAT IS EXTREME DEMOGRAPHIC PRESSURES GIVEN.

WE HAVE A TOP HEAVY POPULATION KEEPING THEIR HOMES LONGER THAN EVER.

SO WITH THOSE REALITIES IN MIND, I THINK IT'S FAIR TO ASK HOW EXACTLY DOES LOCAL UPZONING MEANINGFULLY CHANGE THOSE STRUCTURAL CONDITIONS? MAYBE IT HELPS, BUT IT'S ENTIRELY POSSIBLE.

AND I THINK LIKELY THAT WHAT WE WILL GET FROM THE PROPOSED UP ZONE PARCELS ARE EIGHT STORY VALUE ENGINEER DEPARTMENT BLOCKS THAT STILL LEASE FOR $2,800 A MONTH.

AND IF THAT'S EVEN A PLAUSIBLE OUTCOME, THEN IT'S PERFECTLY RATIONAL FOR RESIDENTS TO WEIGH THOSE UNCERTAIN ECONOMIC AND HOUSING UPSIDES AGAINST THE VERY REAL AND PERMANENT IMPACT LARGER BUILDINGS CAN HAVE.

ON PETALUMA CHARACTER, PEDESTRIAN SCALE AND IDENTITY, IT DOES NOT MAKE ANYONE SELFISH.

IT DOES NOT MAKE THEM IMMORAL.

IT MEANS THEY VALUE THE COMMUNITY THEY CHOSE TO LIVE IN ZONING AND DESIGN STANDARDS FUNCTION IN MANY WAYS AS CONSUMER PROTECTIONS.

PEOPLE BUY INTO COMMUNITIES WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE SCALE AND CHARACTER OF THOSE PLACES WILL NOT RADICALLY CHANGE OVERNIGHT.

SO WHEN WE DISCUSSED DEREGULATING HEIGHT AND DISMISSING AESTHETICS IN THE NAME OF THE HOUSING CRISIS, PROPERTY OWNERS ARE JUSTIFIED IN SCRUTINIZING THAT TRADE OFF.

AND THAT'S WHY ONE CAUTION OR CRITICISM IN THE BROADER DISCOURSE AROUND THIS ISSUE, AT OUR LAST PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING PUBLIC COMMENTERS, EXPRESSING CONCERN ABOUT THE GENERAL PLANS PROPOSED BUILDING HEIGHTS, I DID NOT FEEL WERE DEBATED IN GOOD FAITH.

I FELT THEY WERE BELITTLED.

I THINK HOME OWNERSHIP ITSELF WAS REFERENCED ALMOST DERISIVELY AND THE, AS THE OPINIONS OF HOMEOWNERS.

AND THAT'S NOT PRODUCTIVE CIVIC DIALOGUE.

IF YOU BELIEVE LARGER BUILDINGS WILL HAVE AN IMPACT ON HOUSING AFFORDABILITY THROUGH SUPPLY SIDE ECONOMICS, SO BE IT.

BUT THAT IS NOT A MORAL HIGH GROUND.

PEOPLE WHO VALUE AESTHETICS, HISTORIC CHARACTER AND HUMAN SCALE DEVELOPMENT ABOVE UNCERTAIN HOUSING BENEFITS ARE NOT BAD PEOPLE.

ANYTHING BUT GIVE THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA A CHANCE TO HAVE 120, UH, FOOT BUILDINGS IN THIS TOWN.

THANK YOU TOM GAFFEY TO BE FOLLOWED BY VERONICA OLSON.

HEY GUYS.

UH, TOM GAFFEY, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

FIRST OFF, YOU KNOW, I GOT TO, TO SIT IN ON SEVERAL OF THE GPAC MEETINGS.

IF THERE WERE EVER TO BE AN AWARD FOR MOST CONGENIAL, UH, LEADER, UH, IT WOULD HAVE TO GO TO RON.

HOLY COW, THIS GUY RUNS A GOOD MEETING.

AND, UH, THEY WERE THOUGHTFUL ENOUGH TO PRESENT TO YOU, UH, THEIR ORIGINAL PLAN TO KEEP IT TO SIX STORIES AT THE TRAIN STATION.

AND IT, IT, IT CHANGED.

I THINK IT GOT UP ZONED HERE IN THE COUNCIL ORIGINALLY.

AND, AND I'D JUST LIKE TO ADD MY VOICE BACK TO, UH, THE OTHER VOICES.

LET'S TRY AND KEEP THAT HEIGHT DOWN.

I DON'T SEE, WE'RE GOING TO EIGHT STORIES.

WE'LL DO

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WITH THE RIGHT, UH, BONUS ADDED.

THOSE EIGHT STORIES CAN GO UP AT 30%.

AND, UH, I I, I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO GUARD OUR SKYLINE.

I THINK WE NEED TO GAR GUARD OUR, UH, VIEW SHED IN AN ANSWER TO COUNCILMAN SHRI, UH, , I LOVE YOUR THOUGHTFULNESS.

I REALLY DO.

BUT I THINK WE NEED TO BE PLANNING FOR THE PEOPLE OF 2026, AND I THINK IN THE YEAR 2100, THOSE PEOPLE WILL BE SO GLAD THAT WE KEPT OUR HEIGHTS DOWN.

SO THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY.

LET'S, LET'S KEEP IT TO SIX TO SIX STORIES THERE IF WE CAN.

I DON'T SEE ANY VALUE AT GOING TO EIGHT, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS CAN REALLY CAP THAT VALUE OUT IN ANY MEANINGFUL WAY, BUT THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERONICA OLSON TO BE FOLLOWED BY BRENT NEWELL.

HI, EVERYONE.

UM, I'M GONNA TALK TONIGHT ABOUT STATION MIXED JUICE HEIGHT.

UM, YOU ALL KNOW I'VE BEEN WORKING ON, UH, PLANNING ISSUES FOR CLOSE TO SEVEN YEARS NOW.

I WANT HOUSING.

UM, THE QUESTION IS WHETHER 90 FEET ACTUALLY DELIVERS THE FLEXIBILITY AND HOUSING PETALUMA SEEKS? I DON'T THINK SO.

AT TODAY'S CONSTRUCTION, 90 FOOT ZONING PUSHES PROJECTS INTO MORE EXPENSIVE BUILDING TYPES, INCREASES LAND VALUES, AND SHRINKS THE POOL OF DEVELOPERS WHO CAN REALISTICALLY BUILD THEIR, THE STATE DENSITY BONUS ALLOWS 98 FEET WITH BONUSES.

SO A 90 FOOT BASE COULD REACH ONE 20.

I'M SORRY, I CAN'T SEE THAT AS AN INCREMENTAL LEAP.

THAT'S QUITE A BIT MORE, ISN'T IT, FROM 65 TO 120? I THINK THAT'S WHAT REALLY THE COMMUNITY IS GETTING UPSET ABOUT.

AND, AND I THINK WITH, WITH REASON, UM, THE LEGISLATURE ALREADY EXAMINED THE ECONOMICS OF CALIFORNIA CAPPED, STREAMLINED, AFFORDABLE APPROVALS AT 65 FEET.

WHY? BECAUSE IT WHAT IS, WHAT PENCILS OUT AND IT'S WHAT PEOPLE ARE BUILDING.

SO SB 79 ALSO TRIGGERS PAVILION PREVAILING WAGE REQUIREMENTS ABOVE 85 FEET, INCREASING COSTS SUBSTANTIALLY, OFTEN BY 20 TO 40%.

SO WHAT YOU'RE GAINING IN SQUARE FOOTAGE, YOU'RE LOSING IN YOUR COSTS.

IT'S LIKE YOU'RE GETTING MUCH OF A MUCHNESS OF NOTHINGNESS.

SO WHY ARE WE DOING THIS? OKAY.

UM, SORRY, I I FEEL VERY STRONGLY ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT I'M, I'M AGAINST ANYTHING.

I'M FOR THE COMMUNITY AND FOR OUR TOWN BEING THE BEST IT CAN BE.

WE HAVE A VERY, VERY ROBUST STRATEGY.

WE HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD, WE HAVE CORRIDORS, WE HAVE STATIONS, AND WE'VE UP ZONED MUCH OF THE CITY.

WE HAVE THREE TIMES THE AMOUNT OF HOUSING THAT WE WILL REQUIRE IN THE NEXT 20 YEARS THAT IS ROBUST.

SO LET THE COMMUNITY HAVE ONE CONCESSION ON THIS HEIGHT, PLEASE.

BRENT NEWELL IS OUR LAST SPEAKER ON PUBLIC, UH, COMMENT TONIGHT.

UH, GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR.

UH, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, UM, UH, MY NAME'S BRENT NEWELL.

I SERVED ON THE GENERAL PLAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

UH, I ALSO SERVE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

UH, AND TO ANSWER THE MAYOR'S QUESTION, THE TOP THREE THINGS ABOUT THIS GENERAL PLAN IS THAT WE TRANSITION FROM A CAR ORIENTED, UH, TRANSPORTATION NETWORK TO A MORE BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY SYSTEM, UH, THAT PRIORITIZES, UM, 15 MINUTE NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, WALKABLE COMMUNITY CENTERS WITH MORE DENSE MIXED USE HOUSING AND COMMERCIAL SPACE.

BUT THEN MOST IMPORTANTLY, IT'S MORE DENSE HOUSING AND MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AND THAT'S WHAT I REALLY WANNA EMPHASIZE TONIGHT.

UM, THERE'S A LOT OF CONTROVERSY AROUND THE MIX STATION, UH, DESIGNATION BY THE, UM, BY THE SMART STATION DOWNTOWN, UH, BEING EIGHT STORIES.

THAT IS WHAT THE GENERAL PLAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED.

IT'S WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, DOWNSHIFTED AND WENT TO SIX STORIES.

UM, BUT THEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION AGAIN RECOMMENDED THAT YOU RECONSIDER THAT AND YOU DID, AND YOU REINSERTED THE, THAT MIXED, UH, THE STATION MIXED USE DESIGNATION OF EIGHT STORIES.

UM, I URGE YOU TO, TO RETAIN THAT.

YOU KNOW, THE STATUS QUO IS SIX STORIES, AND THE STATUS QUO IS

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VACANT.

LOTS AROUND THE SMART STATION, YOU KNOW, EIGHT STORIES, UM, AND THE RELATED ADJACENT PARCELS, UH, URBAN CORRIDOR MIXED USE, WHICH IS SIX STORIES THAT ALLOWS MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

UM, AND WE AS A COMMUNITY, WE REALLY OWE IT TO THE YOUNGER GENERATIONS THAT ARE COMING UP IN PETALUMA THAT CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE HERE.

YOU KNOW, OUR CHILDREN, UH, GEN Z, UM, UH, THE, THE, THE FACT THAT, THAT YOU ARE BEING URGED TO MAINTAIN THE STATUS QUO AROUND THE DOWNTOWN SMART STATION IS REALLY A POLICY ABOUT ERECTING A SKY BELT IN PETALUMA.

WE ALREADY HAVE A GREEN BELT THAT'S CONSTRAINING OUR HOUSING.

LET'S HAVE INFILL HOUSING THAT PROVIDES OPPORTUNITIES FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR THE YOUNGER GENERATION TO AFFORD TO LIVE HERE.

UH, AND YOU KNOW, THE, THE LAST SPEAKER TALKED ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, A, A VERY TALL BUILDING BEING A BAD THING.

UM, IF THERE'S A DENSITY BONUS ON AN EIGHT STORY DESIGNATION, THEN THAT'S 100% AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

THAT'S A WIN FOR THIS COMMUNITY.

WE DON'T HAVE NEARLY ENOUGH AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY, FOR WORKING FAMILIES, FOR TEACHERS, UM, FOR, UH, PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR THE CITY.

I MEAN, WE NEED TO PROVIDE HOUSING SO THAT JUSTICE ISN'T FOR JUST US.

UH, THAT WAS OUR LAST SPEAKER.

OH, WE HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER.

KAREN, PATRICIA TATTLE BROWN.

I WAS, UH, I DID SUBMIT A LETTER.

I HAD TO DO IT REALLY FAST, SO THERE'S A LOT OF TYPOS.

I APOLOGIZE I HAD TO FINISH IT.

BUT MY CONCERN, UH, IS THE CENTRAL PETALUMA SPECIFIC PLANS RIVERFRONT WAREHOUSE DISTRICT, WHICH IS WHERE I WEAR AND LIVE.

AND WHAT I'D LIKE TO SAY IS THAT THERE'S A LOT OF CONFUSION THAT I THINK HAS TO BE CLEARED UP.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I SAID IN MY LETTER WAS THAT THAT PLAN IS A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING AND THE, THE ACTUAL ZONE GOES ALL THE WAY TO D STREET, WHICH WOULD AFFECT SOME OF THE COMMENTARY ABOUT THE PARCEL ON D STREET.

THAT WAS THE OLD GAS STATION, BECAUSE THAT'S STILL IN THE RIVERFRONT WAREHOUSE DISTRICT.

WHAT I'D LIKE TO SAY ABOUT WHERE I WORK AND LIVE IS THE BOULEVARD PORTION OF THE RIVERFRONT WAREHOUSE DISTRICT, WHICH IN THE BEAUTIFUL BOOK BY CATHERINE REINHARDT, IS ERRONEOUSLY EXCLUDED FROM THE RIVERFRONT WAREHOUSE MAP.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT IT IS PART OF IT.

AND, UM, MY OPINION IS THAT THE, THERE'S T FOUR ZONING.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BIG ZONING ELSEWHERE.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN AREA THAT'S ALREADY BEEN CONSIDERED HISTORIC WITH SMALL BUNGALOWS BEHIND THE ZONING FOR THE AREA BEHIND THE BOULEVARD IS CONSIDERED T FOUR, BUT THE AREA ON THE BOULEVARD, BECAUSE IT'S ON THE BOULEVARD, IS ZONED T FIVE.

AND I WOULD LIKE THAT AREA, ENTIRE RIVERFRONT WAREHOUSE AREA WITH ALL OF THIS HISTORIC LANGUAGE IN THE CENTRAL PETALUMA SPECIFIC PLAN TO BE ZONED THE SAME WAY THE REST OF THE RIVER FRONT WAREHOUSE DISTRICT IS ZONED AT T FOUR.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LIGHT TO THOSE LITTLE BUNGALOWS THAT ARE BEING PRESERVED AND HONORED BACK THERE, UM, TO, TO BUILD A WALL AND ENCOURAGE A WALL THAT ACTUALLY, IF IT ALL IS AFFORDABLE, IS A VERY BIG WALL FROM FIVE TO EIGHT, THAT'S A BAD THING.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT DONE SO THAT IT MATCHES INSTEAD OF CONSIDERING THE BOULEVARD SOMEPLACE.

THAT CAN JUST BE HUGE, AND I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF YOU'D CONSIDER THAT.

AND, UM, AND THEN I WANT TO, UM, OFFER STAFF A CHANCE, UM, ON, ON THAT LAST COMMENTARY.

THAT WAS OUR, OUR LAST SPEAKER FOR, UM, PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD ON THE EVENING TONIGHT.

UM, I DID WANT TO LEAD OFF WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I, I THINK, UM, UM, PEOPLE, UH, SOMETIMES FORGET, UM, WHAT THE, HOW THE WORDS, UH, IMPACT OTHER PEOPLE.

AND, UH, SOMETIMES WE GET EXCITABLE AND, UM, SOMETIMES THAT COMES ACROSS AS DISRESPECT.

SOMETIMES IT IS DISRESPECT.

UM, BUT I WANT TO KNOW THAT IN THIS ROOM, UM, WE WILL TRY TO BE, UM, BETTER AT STAYING FOCUSED ON ISSUE AND NOT ON PERSON.

AND, UM, AND, UM, I WILL TRY AND KEEP A, UH, A, A VOICE TO THAT AT ALL PARTS THROUGH.

'CAUSE THAT'S NOT WHO WE THINK WE ARE.

SO LET'S BEHAVE LIKE THE PEOPLE WE WISH WE WERE.

UM,

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UH, IS THERE A WAY OF SYNOPSIZING WHAT OPTIONS ON THE TABLE FOR, UM, UM, THE WAREHOUSE DISTRICT? UM, I, I CAN TAKE A CRACK AT THAT AND TEAM, PLEASE, UH, CHIME IN IF I'M WRONG HERE.

SO THE GENERAL PLAN UPDATE DOES NOT PROPOSE ANY CHANGES, UM, WHAT MS. TUTTLE BROWN IS.

UM, ACTUALLY, SO TAKING A STEP BACK, CURRENTLY THE WAREHOUSE DISTRICT, UM, THE MAJORITY OF IT OUTSIDE OF TWO BLOCKS IS T FIVE.

AND SO, UM, I, WE DID TRY TO HAVE A CONVERSATION LAST WEEK.

UM, I, I DON'T THINK I WAS VERY CONVINCING ABOUT IT, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, IT IS T FIVE.

UM, AND SO WHAT THE REQUEST IS, IS TO ALIGN WITH THE TIGHT, YOU KNOW, TWO BLOCK CARVE OUT OF T FOUR.

SO BASICALLY BRING IT DOWN TO FOUR STORIES.

UM, UH, AND SO AGAIN, THE GENERAL PLAN ITSELF, COUNCIL WAS VERY CLEAR.

UM, WE DID EXPLORE THROUGH THE WORKSHOPS, UH, POTENTIAL ALTERNATIVES FOR THIS AREA.

ULTIMATELY, THERE ARE NO CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE.

UM, AND SO COUNCIL WAS, UH, UNANIMOUS AND SO YOU, WE DON'T SEE ANY CHANGES.

IT'S T FIVE.

UM, AGAIN, IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THROUGH THE SPECIFIC PLAN, UM, CENTRAL PEDAL SPECIFIC PLAN PROCESS TO POTENTIALLY REVISIT THAT, UM, THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ENGAGING WITH THE COMMUNITY AT A BROADER SCALE.

UM, AGAIN, IT'S THE COUNCIL'S PREROGATIVE IF THEY'D LIKE TO EXPLORE DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES, BUT, UM, I BELIEVE THE COUNCILS WEIGHED IN QUITE A BIT ON THIS.

LET ME ASK THAT DIFFERENTLY.

IF, UM, IS THIS THE KIND OF THING YOU CAN SYNOPSIZE IN THE NEXT, UH, GENERAL PLAN APPEARANCE OF COUNCIL WITH SUFFICIENT DETAIL, WE CAN SEE SOMETHING AND UNDERSTAND IT? OR ARE WE MOVING PAST THAT MOMENT QUICKLY? SO I WOULD THINK THE DIRECTION THAT MS. TUTTLE BROWN IS SUGGESTING WOULD BE TO DO LESS SO FROM A CQA PERSPECTIVE.

UM, THAT WOULDN'T PUT US OFF COURSE.

AGAIN, UH, THIS IS ONE SPECIFIC REQUEST THAT'S COME IN FAIRLY LATE IN THE PROCESS.

UM, THERE IS A, UM, ADDITIONAL LAYER, UM, ALONG THE BOULEVARD.

UM, YOU'LL, UM, IT'S A THREE, IT'S A THREE WITH A CIRCLE AROUND IT.

SO IT DOES HAVE AN ADDITIONAL POLICY THAT ALONG THE BOULEVARD IT SHOULD NOT GO OVER THREE STORIES.

UM, SO I'M, I'M STILL A LITTLE BIT AT A LOSS OF WHAT THE, UM, UH, WHAT THE INTENT IS, BUT IF I, WHAT I GATHER IS, UM, WANTING TO ESSENTIALLY CHANGE THE ZONING OR THE LAND USE, UM, DESIGNATION, UM, ALONG THE BOULEVARD WITHIN THE WAREHOUSE DISTRICT TO T FOUR.

COULD WE BRING THE MAP UP TO HELP ILLUSTRATE THIS? OKAY, SO I, I, SO THAT THREE AND THAT CIRCLED THAT, UH, IS DIRECTLY ABUTTING THE, THE BEIGE COLOR.

I ACTUALLY BELIEVE THAT'S, UM, MS. TALL BROWN'S HOME, UM, OVER UNDER THAT THREE.

UM, AND SO ALL THE, THE PINK, THE SALMON COLOR IS T FOUR, NO, I'M SORRY, T FIVE.

THE YELLOW IS T FOUR.

AND SO THIS IS, UH, WE HAVE HISTORIC, UM, BUNGALOWS SORT OF, UM, ALONG THAT TWO BLOCK STRETCH RIGHT THERE.

UM, AND SO BACK WHEN THE CENTRAL PETALUMA SPECIFIC PLAN WAS ADOPTED AND, UM, IMAGINED, UH, ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT WAS TO GO NO, NO MORE THAN, UM, T

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FOUR DESIGNATION, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY FOUR STORIES.

UM, AND SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THE REMAINDER OF THE WAREHOUSE DISTRICT, SO ALL THE WAY FROM D STREET, WHICH IS WHERE THE RED LINE IS, THE BOULEVARD UP TO THE RIVER, UM, IS ALL THAT SALMON COLOR, WHICH IS T FIVE.

AND SO I BELIEVE THE REQUEST WAS TO HAVE, UM, THE FRONTAGE OF THE BOULEVARD MATCH THE REST OF THE DISTRICT, WHICH YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE IT IS.

UM, WELL, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE ABOUT IT IS, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAND USE CHART, UM, IT DOES SAY FOR TCMU, YOU KNOW, IT'S STEP DOWN TO THREE FRONTING PETALUMA BOULEVARD SIX WITH PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVAL.

SO, I MEAN, I THINK PERHAPS THAT'S ONE OF THE CONCERNS IS, IS FIXING THAT AT THREE AND ELIMINATING THE PART OF, YOU KNOW, GETTING APPROVAL UP TO SIX STORIES.

THAT'S NOT CHANGING THOUGH.

IS THAT A MOTION ? I MEAN, OR THAT'S, LET'S HAVE, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU NEED TO COMMENT ON OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S MORE APPROPRIATE TO BRING BACK TO COUNCIL? I, I THINK WE, WE, WE NEED TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, RESEARCH, UM, AND GET BACK TO YOU.

THAT SOUNDS LIKE, SOUNDS LIKE WE'LL BE SEEING THAT AGAIN.

WHAT, UM, WHAT SORT OF RESEARCH WOULD YOU NEED TO DO TO, WELL, SO THE IN, IF WE CAN DO THAT, THE INTENT OF THIS WAS TO, AND WE'RE, WE'RE CONFLATING, UM, ZONING AND LAND USE DESIGNATION A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE T FOUR AND T FIVE ARE ZONING DISTRICTS, UH, NOT GENERAL PLAN LAND USE DESIGNATIONS, BUT THE, UM, THE INTENT WITH IN THIS AREA WAS TO MATCH WHAT'S CURRENTLY THERE.

SO T FIVE DOES ALLOW, UM, UP TO SIX STORIES WITH PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVAL, BUT THERE'S A THREE FOOT LIMIT OR THREE STORY LIMIT ALONG THE BOULEVARD.

UM, SO FRONTING THE BOULEVARD, UM, SO THE INTENT WAS THAT'S WHAT'S IN THE NEW GENERAL PLAN AS WELL.

SO I WANNA LOOK AT THE LANGUAGE AND MAKE SURE THAT'S CLEAR, BUT THAT'S WAS THE INTENTION IS TO JUST, IT WAS A LATERAL CHANGE.

UM, AND THE SAME SIZE, UM, HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS WOULD TRANSFER INTO THE NEW GENERAL PLAN.

SO I JUST WANNA LOOK AT IF THERE'S ANYTHING, IF THERE'S ANY LANGUAGE IN HERE THAT'S, THAT'S NOT CLEAR, UM, BECAUSE THAT'S THE INTENT.

SO IF WE WANTED TO BE IN KEEPING WITH THE CURRENT BUILDING SIZE SKYLINE IN, IN THE RIVERFRONT WAREHOUSE DISTRICT, WHAT LAND USE DESIGNATION WOULD WE BE CONSIDERING IF WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP IT AROUND THREE STORIES THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT? WELL, NO, WE WERE TRYING TO KEEP IT CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING ZONING ALLOWANCE, NOT THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT.

SO YES, THERE ARE SOME, UM, YOU KNOW, THE WAREHOUSES ARE ONE TALL ONE, UM, ONE TO TWO, LET'S SAY.

UM, THE INTENT WAS TO CARRY FORWARD WHAT THE ZONING CURRENTLY ALLOWS JUST FOR, FOR CLARITY ON THAT.

UM, OKAY.

AND IF WE WANTED TO KEEP WITH THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT THERE, WHAT WOULD WE BE LOOKING AT? UM, WHAT, YEAH, WE'D HAVE TO LOOK, 'CAUSE THAT'S A, THAT'S A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL SHIFT FROM WHAT'S CURRENTLY ALLOWED IN THAT AREA.

AND, AND THAT'S THE KIND OF CHANGE THAT WE WOULD STRAP POLL ACROSS THE DIOCESE AND SEE IF WE'RE INTERESTED IN A, A CHANGE OR WHETHER WHERE WE ARE IN THE GENERAL PLAN PROPOSAL IS WHAT THE COUNCIL WISHES.

NO, I'D APPRECIATE THAT AT THE NEXT MEETING TO LOOK, YOU KNOW, AND SEE WHAT, WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE FOR THAT.

UH, WITHOUT OTHER CONTINGENTS OF, OF CONSTRAINT.

ALRIGHT.

UM, SO THAT, UM, THAT LEAVES US WITH THE CONVERSATION ABOUT, UH, EIGHT STORIES.

AND I WANTED TO LEAVE WITH ONE QUESTION.

UM, YOU KNOW, UH, THE STORY COUNT IS IN, YOU KNOW, A SINGLE FACTOR.

THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT GO INTO THIS.

DENSITY IS ALSO, UM, PART OF HOW A PROPERTY DEVELOPS AND, UM, THE FAR DEVELOPS OR IS PART OF IT ALSO, AND ANY OTHER, UM, CONDITIONS OR, OR SHALL WE CALL DEVELOPMENT DESIGN, UH, CONDITIONS? UH, WHAT ARE THE REST OF THE CONDITIONS ON THAT PROPERTY? WHEN WE SAY IT'S UP TO EIGHT STORIES, I DON'T THINK THAT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT FLOOR AREA RATIO, AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S,

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CAN YOU DESCRIBE FOR US, FOR THE PUBLIC WHAT CONSTRAINTS ARE ON THAT? YEAH, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

SO, UH, WHILE RON'S PULLING IT UP, UM, THE STATION MIXED USE, UM, HAS IT'S 60 TO 125 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE IS THE DENSITY RANGE.

UM, IT'S PROPOSED AS A MAXIMUM FAR OF 5.0, UM, A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF EIGHT STORIES, UM, AND REQUIRING, UM, A FLOOR AREA RATIO OF 0.12 OF THE GROUND FLOOR, UM, BE ACTIVE AND ACTIVE USE.

AND, AND WELL, CAN YOU CAPTURE WHAT A FIVE FAR WOULD MEAN ON A PARCEL LIKE THIS? UM, WOULD, IF THEY HAVE A CENTRAL ROAD, AND I THINK WE ASKED THEM TO HAVE A CONCOURSE THROUGH THE CENTER OF THIS PARCEL, RIGHT? IS IS THAT COUNTED AS, YOU KNOW, HOW IS THAT COUNT? IS THAT NON DEVELOPED LAND? NO, THE, THE, UM, ROAD.

SO WHEN YOU DO NET ACRES, UM, SO DENSITY IS DONE BY, AND RON, IF I MISSPEAK PLEASE, UM, WHEN WE LOOK AT DENSITY, WE CONSIDER THE NUMBER OF HOUSING UNITS PER NET ACRE AND WE DEDUCT ROADWAYS, UM, FROM THE ACREAGE.

SO IT'S, IT WOULD NOT, THAT WOULD NOT, IF, IF THERE'S A ROAD, IF THAT PARCEL IS BISECTED BY A ROAD, THAT ROAD, THE DENSITY WOULD NOT BE APPLIED TO THAT AREA THAT BECOMES THE ROAD.

UM, GOTCHA.

AND THERE'S A PUBLIC EASEMENT THAT'S WIDER THAN THE ROAD AND THE SIDEWALKS ARE NOT IN THE PUBLIC EASEMENT OR THEY ARE IN THIS.

AND WOULD THE FAR INCLUDE THE, THE FLOOR AREA, THE NET AREA? WOULD IT INCLUDE THE SIDEWALKS? I THINK THAT WOULD BE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.

IT WOULD NOT, WE WOULD BE, UM, ASKING FOR, UM, DEDICATION OF A ROAD THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE ROADWAY, THE CURB GUTTER, AND THE SIDEWALK WOULD BE THE PUBLIC AND THE PLAN DIRECTLY.

WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE TO SAYING THAT THE, UH, THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT IS HOW YOU DETERMINE THE FLOOR AREA RATIO.

I MEAN, WITH SOME EXCEPTION IT'S THE, IT'S, IT'S THE PARCEL.

SO IT WOULD BE THE PRIVATE PARCEL.

SO AFTER YOU WOULD TAKE OUT THE PUBLIC ROADWAY OUT OF IT, IT'S WHAT'S LEFT AS THE PRIVATE PARCEL.

SO THERE COULD BE SETBACKS FOR LANDSCAPE SETBACKS THAT THAT WOULDN'T BE INCLUDED IN THE PARCEL AND THE FLOOR AREA RATIO.

I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW MANY FLOORS YOU GET OUT OF A FLOOR AREA RATIO VERSUS A EIGHT STORY.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU, IT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT EIGHT STORIES ON THE FULL PARCEL.

IT'S COULD BE FIVE ON THE FULL PARCEL, BUT MORE LIKELY THERE'S SOME SETBACK ON CERTAIN AREAS AND IT'S SMALLER.

THAT AND, AND GENERALLY, UM, YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU ALSO, YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME LEVEL OF, UM, PRIVATE OPEN SPACE WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU DEVELOP OR YOU KNOW, YOU, THERE'S, THERE'S DIFFERENT THINGS THAT HAPPEN.

YOU, YOU RARELY JUST HAVE A, A YOU WOULD NOT HAVE, YOU COULDN'T HAVE AN EIGHT STORY BLOCK, RIGHT? LIKE AN EIGHT STORY YEAH.

SQUARE MASS.

I THINK ONE OF THE FEARS HERE IS THAT YOU HEAR IT'S EIGHT STORIES AND YOU THINK SOVIET ERA BLOCK HOUSING, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT WHAT ARCHITECTURE IS THESE DAYS AND THAT'S NOT WHAT ZONING IS TODAY.

AND UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT WHAT GENERAL PLAN IS.

THE ZONING OF THIS IS STILL, UM, TO BE WORKED OUT.

WHAT, WHAT OTHER OBJECTIVE STANDARDS AND THINGS THAT MIGHT BE REQUIRED ON A BUILDING LIKE THIS.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA SEE.

WHAT DO WE SAY WEEKS OUT OR IS IT MAYBE FURTHER OUT THAN THAT WEEK? WELL, WE'RE GONNA START TALKING ABOUT THEM.

SO WE, YOU KNOW, EVERY TIME YOU HAVE A ZONING DISTRICT, YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE YOUR HEIGHT, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE YOUR MAXIMUM LOCK COVERAGE OR YOUR FAR, UM, YOU HAVE YOUR SETBACKS OR MAYBE YOU HAVE STEPBACK REQUIREMENTS OR, UM, YEAH.

GENERAL PLAN IS ROUGHLY 3,100 PEOPLE MORE THAN OUR EXISTING GENERAL PLAN.

UM, ANYONE QUESTIONS? I DID WANNA , IT'S NOT THE KEVIN SHOW .

UM, SO YEAH, WE'RE IN, WE'RE MOVING INTO COMMENTS.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD PUBLIC COMMENT, WE'RE BACK COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLE.

SURE.

UM, I'LL SAY WHAT WE SAID, YOU KNOW, AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHEN WE UNANIMOUSLY SENT IT TO US, THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS FAIRLY TARGETED.

THE BUILD OUT OF THIS

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IT'S NOT LIKE WE'VE RAISED THE CITY OR CREATED SOME, UH, SIGNIFICANT, YOU KNOW, UM, CHANGES IN OUR ZONING DESIGNATE OR OUR LAND USE DESIGNATIONS.

UM, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL MEMBER QUINT HIT ON THE THINGS FOR ME.

UM, YOU KNOW, THIS, UH, CERTAINLY PROMOTES HOUSING AFFORDABILITY HAS CERTAINLY PROMOTES A STRONGER ECONOMY.

UM, AND, UM, IT'S OBVIOUSLY ROOTED IN, UH, OUR CLIMATE GOALS AND IN, UM, OUR ENVIRONMENTAL LEGACY, UM, OUR HISTORIC BACKGROUND, UM, ALL THAT, UM, AT OUR LAST COUNCIL MEETING, COUNCIL MEMBER NOW BROUGHT UP THAT SHE WAS ON THE COUNCIL AND WE ADOPTED THE LAST ONE.

AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO LEARN FROM THE THINGS THAT WE DIDN'T NECESSARILY NAIL IN THE LAST ONE.

AND, UM, I FEEL LIKE WE'VE, UH, MADE SOME FAIRLY TARGETED CHANGES TO A FEW DIFFERENT LAND USE DESIGNATIONS, UM, UM, THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, IN VERY INTENTIONAL.

UM, IT ABSOLUTELY, UH, YOU KNOW, THE EVIDENCE IS UNEQUIVOCAL THAT, YOU KNOW, PLACES THAT ARE BUILDING HOUSING, UM, ARE SEEING RENT STABILIZE.

UM, THERE'S A REASON WHY WE'RE DOING THIS.

IT'S NOT, UM, IT'S, IT'S NOT MYSTERIOUS.

IT'S NOT THAT WE, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, SUPPLY SIDE ECONOMICS DO WORK WITH HOUSING.

UM, AND WE SEE THAT, UH, TIME AND TIME AGAIN WHERE PLACES THAT ARE BUILDING HOUSING, UM, ARE SEEING RENTS COME DOWN, STABILIZE, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO, UM, IT IS, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR THE, YOU KNOW, THOSE OF US UP HERE AND, AND IN THE COMMUNITY WHO, UM, ARE CONCERNED THAT WE'RE GRADUATING 300 TO 500 SENIORS EVERY YEAR AND WE OPENED 30 DOORS OF MARKET RATE HOUSING LAST YEAR, UM, AND WE'VE AVERAGED WHAT, LIKE 110 OVER THE LAST DECADE PER YEAR FOR THE LAST DECADE OF, UM, AFFORDABLE ADUS MARKET RATE, ALL OF THAT, UM, LIKE THIS IS A REAL, A REAL PROBLEM.

IT'S A, UH, IT'S UM, THAT WE ARE, UH, NOT PROVIDING HOUSING FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WE'RE, UM, THAT WE WANT TO SEE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND, AND WE WANT TO, THAT WE WANT TO, WE WANT TO SEE A FUTURE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

UM, SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M OBVIOUSLY VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS.

AS I SAID IN THE COUNCIL MEETING OR AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.

UM, THERE'S A WHOLE MESS OF THINGS THAT I WOULD DO DIFFERENTLY AND I WOULD PUSH FARTHER, UM, IN CERTAIN AREAS, BUT I FEEL LIKE THIS IS A COMPROMISE, UM, IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, THE SCALE OF CHANGE THAT WE'RE PROMOTING, UM, THE, YOU KNOW, THE IN TERMS OF, UH, INCREASING DENSITY IN CERTAIN AREAS, UM, IN TERMS OF INCREASING HEIGHT IN CERTAIN AREAS.

UM, SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S, NO ONE WOULD LOOK AT THIS AND SAY, THIS IS A RADICAL CHANGE TO OUR EXISTING, UM, YOU KNOW, EXISTING GENERAL PLAN LAND USE SETTLEMENT.

UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, I'M READY TO SUPPORT IT AS IS.

UM, THE THING THAT I DO WANT TO FLAG IS THAT IN THE DOWNTOWN MIXED USE, UM, I HAD SOME, UM, UH, THE OWNER OR THE AN ARCHITECT FOR THE 1 31 LIBERTY PROJECT THAT WAS CONCERNED THAT WE ARE NOT SUPPORTING, UM, HORIZONTAL MIXED USE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IN PARTICULAR WITH THE DOWNTOWN, YOU KNOW, DESIGNATION, LIKE WE'RE LOOKING TO CREATE MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOODS, WHICH THE DOWNTOWN ALREADY HAS A SURPLUS OF RETAIL SPACE AND WE, UM, AND SO WE DON'T WANT TO CREATE BARRIERS TO RESIDENTIAL ONLY PROJECTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND SO, UM, I DO WANNA SEE US MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CLEAR ON THAT.

UM, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I, YOU KNOW, LIKE I'M NOT INTERESTED IN CHANGING THE CENTRAL PETALUMA SPECIFIC PLAN.

LIKE THAT'S BEEN, UH, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF, I MEAN, FOR SO MANY PEOPLE THAT'S A, A SACRED COW THAT WE DON'T TOUCH.

UM, SO I'M NOT INTERESTED IN DOWN ZONING THAT AREA, UM, IN PARTICULAR DOWN ZONING AN AREA WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE BASICALLY TAKING, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE REDUCING THE VALUE OF PEOPLE'S PROPERTIES UNILATERALLY IF YOU DO THAT.

SO, UM, I DON'T THINK THAT'S, UH, A RESPONSIBLE THING TO DO.

CERTAINLY NOT WITHOUT A WHOLE MESS OF NOTICING AND THINGS LIKE THAT WHEN THIS HAS BEEN THE ZONING DESIGNATION FOR THE LAST, I DON'T KNOW, 20 PLUS YEARS.

SO, UM, I DON'T THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE ENTERTAINING.

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WHO WANTS TO GO NEXT? UH, COUNCIL MEMBER NOW.

THANK YOU MR. BARNICLE FOR BRINGING UP MY, MY MY HISTORY BECAUSE THAT'S ON, UM, MY NOTES THAT YES, 20 YEARS GOES BY FAST.

I WAS SITTING UP HERE 20 YEARS AGO AND WE WERE, UM, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO PLAN THE PERFECT GENERAL PLAN FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS WOULD BRING US TO 2026 WHERE I'M SITTING RIGHT NOW.

AND THE PERFECT GENERAL PLAN DOES NOT CONSIDER AND FORECAST RECESSIONS NATURAL DISASTERS LIKE FIRES, PANDEMICS, FEDERAL ADMINISTRATION CHANGES AND HIGH TARIFFS, UM, A NEED FOR A DRIVE THROUGH PHARMACY.

YET THE COUNCIL DID NOT WANNA CHANGE OR APPROVE ANY CHANGES TO THE GENERAL PLAN WHEN WE SAID NO MORE DRIVE THROUGHS.

SO WE DO WANNA AVOID MAKING THE MISTAKES THAT WE MIGHT HAVE MADE 20 YEARS AGO BY NOT SAYING NO MORE DRIVE-THROUGHS.

SO WHEN I, UM, AGREED TO THE EIGHT STORIES NEXT TO THE SMART STATION, IT WAS JUST THAT ONE PARCEL.

AND I WAS THINKING, OH, IN 20 YEARS, MY SEVEN GRANDCHILDREN WILL BE HAVING CHILDREN AND THEY WILL BE, LET'S SEE, MY OLDEST IZZY WILL BE 35 IN 20 YEARS.

I, 20 YEARS AGO I HAD KIDS AT HOME IN COLLEGE WHO WERE THEN MOVING OUT INTO THE FIRST LOW COST HOUSING APARTMENTS WE BUILT ON WASHINGTON STREET, THANK GOODNESS, BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT THEM LIVING AT HOME AND, UM, THEY NEEDED TO BE OUT OF THE NEST.

SO WE HAVE TO THINK AHEAD TO MY GREAT-GRANDCHILDREN.

IT IS HARD TO SAY, AND ALL OF US UP HERE WHO HAVE CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN, WHAT IS GONNA BE IN 20 YEARS.

AND, UM, I'M THINKING, OKAY, WE COULD HAVE OUTDOOR DINING, WE COULD HAVE STREET, UH, TREES AROUND THIS SMART STATION BECAUSE THERE'S NOT REALLY MUCH.

THERE'S SOME ROSE BUSHES NOW, BUT THERE'S NOT REALLY MUCH LANDSCAPING THAT PEOPLE WOULD LEISURELY HAVE A CUP OF COFFEE AND SIT OUTSIDE THE SMART STATION AND THE ART MUSE AND THE ART CENTER IS RIGHT THERE.

WHAT A WONDERFUL WALKABLE COMMUNITY WE COULD BUILD.

UM, AND I DON'T LIKE CHANGE ANYMORE THAN ANYBODY ELSE.

I'M OLD PETALUMA ALL THE WAY, SO I DON'T MIND GOING BACK TO SIX FEET OR SIX STORIES, BUT I WAS THINKING THAT EIGHT STORIES WOULD HAVE STEP BACKS WITH A LOT OF OPEN MIXED USE UNDERNEATH WHERE THE COMMUNITY COULD FLOW, KIND OF LIKE THEY DO IN THE CITY AROUND, YOU KNOW, UM, LITTLE BARISTA TABLES AND AND CHAIRS LIKE THEY ARE IN EUROPE AND IN GREECE.

THAT'S HOW IT IS IN ATHENS AND A LOT OF TREES.

SO, UM, THOSE ARE MY SUGGESTIONS, UM, AND WHAT WE WANT TO VISUALIZE FOR THAT ONE PARCEL.

AND I LOOK FORWARD TO MORE COMMENTS FROM THE COUNCIL, COUNCIL MEMBERSHIPS.

UM, YEAH, SO I'M GOING TO, UH, UH, REVERSE, UM, MY PRIOR, UM, VOTE EARLIER, OR I SHOULDN'T SAY VOTE, BUT MY PREFERENCE, I'M GONNA GO BACK TO THE 65 LIMIT, UH, VERSUS EIGHT STORIES.

'CAUSE I CAN SEE THAT AT SIX STORIES AND 65 FEET IS A LOT OF HOUSING THAT'S STILL GONNA HOUSE SEVERAL HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE, MANY HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE STILL.

UM, AND I'M LOOKING AT THE ECONOMICS AND LOOKING AT AFFORDABILITY.

GEE, IF THE STATE CAME IN, WE SAY SIX STORIES, WE SAY 65 FEET AND WITH STATE LAWS, THAT COULD BE EIGHT STORIES.

SO IF IT'S AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND SOMEONE COMES THROUGH WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING AT EIGHT STORIES, UM, HEIGHT AND THEN WITH ALL THE SETBACKS AND EVERYTHING, WE'LL WE'LL GET OUR EIGHT STORIES, WE'LL GET OUR PLENTY OF HOUSING.

I ALSO LOOKING AT THE AMOUNT OF HOUSING, UH, WHICH VERONICA MENTIONED IS, UM, THE VOLUME.

WE'VE UPSCALED SO MUCH ALL AROUND TOWN AND THE REAL, UM, AND, UH, MY VIEW OF THE AFTER LOTS OF HOUSING WEBINARS WAS, ARE THE REAL VOLUMES GONNA COME FROM TAKING OUT AT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND BUILDING IT, UH, QUADRAPLEXES UP TO 10 PLEXES IN SINGLE AND, AND DUAL LOTS.

AND THAT'S WHERE THE FINANCIALLY WE'RE REALLY GONNA BUILD MOST OF OUR HOUSING.

SO, AND I LOOK AT THE VOLUME OF PEOPLE IN THAT PARTICULAR SPOT AND THE CONGESTION THAT WE'RE NOW FACING NOW, EVEN IF MOST OF THOSE FOLKS DON'T HAVE A CAR, SOME OF 'EM WILL.

UM, AND GETTING IN AND OUT.

'CAUSE I JUST SPENT CLOSE TO 10 MINUTES GETTING ACROSS THREE BLOCKS OF D STREET

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YESTERDAY.

UM, TRYING TO GET THROUGH, UM, UH, ON A SECTION OF THERE BECAUSE I HIT THE TRAIN TRAFFIC, UH, I HIT OTHER THINGS, UH, STREETLIGHTS AND, AND AND OG.

AND, AND THEN THE, UH, THE BRIDGE WENT UP.

SO BETWEEN THE BRIDGE AND THE TRAIN, IT WAS 10, 15 MINUTES BEFORE I GOT TO THREE BLOCKS.

SO WE HAVE CONGESTION IN THAT AREA.

WE DON'T HAVE A GOOD PLAN FOR THAT RESOLVING THAT CONGESTION AT THIS POINT.

UM, SO I'M THINKING THAT 65 FEET, SIX STORIES LIMIT, KEEP CONSISTENT.

THE LARGEST THING WE HAVE OVER 65 FEET ARE ALL AGRICULTURAL STRUCTURES, WHICH IS OUR HISTORY AGRICULTURAL TOWN.

I WANNA RETAIN THAT.

AND SO I'M HEARING THE FOLKS SAY THEY WANNA RETAIN THAT PHILOSOPHY, THAT IDEA, UM, OUR FEELING OF THAT.

AND UM, AND I'M THINKING IF WE MAKE IT EIGHT STORIES AND SOMETHING DOES, DOES GET BUILT THAT IS, IS GONNA HAVE ENOUGH OF AN IMPACT ON THE VIEW SHED AND EVERYTHING, IT DOES CHANGE A LITTLE BIT OF OUR CHARACTER.

UM, AND I THINK WE CAN MAYBE DO SOMETHING OVER AT THE NORTH STATION AS A POSSIBILITY, UH, OUTSIDE OF THE AREA IF WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING THERE.

MAYBE THAT'S A POSSIBILITY OF PUTTING IT OUT THERE.

THEY EIGHT STORIES, UH, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OUTSIDE OF THE FIELD, BUT, UH, THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER TOPIC FOR ANOTHER DAY.

SO I'M IN FAVOR OF GOING BACK TO 65 FEET, SIX STORIES IN THAT SPOT.

IT'S THE ONE AND ONLY SPOT.

WE DON'T NEED TO BE PUSHING THE LIMITS ON THAT ONE SPOT.

WE'RE PUSHING THE LIMITS ALL OVER TOWN.

AND SO THAT, THAT'S MY PERSPECTIVE AT THE, ON THIS.

THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER QUINN.

UM, YEAH, SO JUST GOING BACK TO THE WAREHOUSE DISTRICT, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M, I, UH, SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, TODAY AND REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE REVITALIZATION WITH IT.

UH, I'M NOT, UM, WE HAVE LOTS THERE NOW THAT ARE UNDEVELOPED.

UH, THE SIX STORIES ARE, YOU KNOW, WERE POSSIBLE UP UNTIL NOW.

THAT'S WHAT IT WAS ZONED FOR AND NOTHING'S BEEN BUILT, I THINK, UM, DOWN ZONING THAT IS A MISTAKE.

UH, PERSONALLY, UM, IN TERMS OF THE EIGHT STORY FOR MANY OF US, I'M GOING TO, I'M GONNA EXCLUDE ME FROM THIS.

I, I'VE BEEN A PETALUMA RESIDENT SINCE 2010.

UH, PETALUMA, IT'S MY HOME.

I'M RAISING MY CHILD HERE.

I LOVE IT HERE.

I PLAN TO RETIRE HERE, UH, AND LIVE OUT MY DAYS HERE.

FOR MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVE LIVED, UH, YOU KNOW, IN THIS TOWN FOR GENERATIONS, IT FEELS LIKE JUST YESTERDAY THAT THE THEATER DISTRICT WAS BUILT WHEN IN REALITY IT WAS BUILT 25 PLUS YEARS AGO.

THE ADOBE, UM, WINERY BUILDING IS THE FIRST BUILDING THAT'S BEEN BUILT IN DOWNTOWN PETALUMA IN SINCE THEN, 25 YEARS.

I DON'T THINK ANOTHER BUILDING'S BEEN BUILT.

WE HAVE TONS OF VACANT LOTS AND NOTHING CAN GET BUILT.

WE'VE BUILT, UH, UH, THE NUMBER OF NEW HOMES IN PETALUMA LAST YEAR, KEVIN, A HUNDRED AND OUT OUT OF A HUNDRED.

HOW MANY WERE AFFORDABLE? 41.

AND HOW MANY WERE MARKET RATE? WELL, THEY SUBTRACT ADUS 27 OUTTA THAT, LEAVING 31 31 MARKET RATE HOUSINGS, 31 MARKET RATE HOUSING AND, UM, HIGH MARKET.

AT THE MUSEUM, AND I WAS JUST SHOCKED AND WAS, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT YOU REPRESENT MAKES PETALUMA SPECIAL.

BUT MY POINT IS NOTHING'S GETTING BUILT AND I, UH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IN 25 YEARS I'LL EAT MY WORDS, BUT HONESTLY, I DON'T.

EVEN IF WE GO TO EIGHT STORIES, I THINK IT WILL BE A MIRACLE IF ANYTHING GETS BUILT ON THAT STATION.

I HOPE THAT SOMEDAY IT DOES.

UH, BUT I THINK THAT, UM, CREATING SOME FLEXIBILITY AND THE MORE FLEXIBILITY THAT WE CREATE ON THAT PROPERTY, UM, THE MORE LIKELIHOOD THAT IN SOMEDAY IT WILL GET BUILT.

UM, BUT I HONESTLY, I'D BE SHOCKED IF IT HAPPENS IN THE NEXT 25 YEARS.

UM, SO MY PREFERENCE IS THAT WE, YOU KNOW, KEEP IT AS IT IS.

UH, WE HONOR THE G A'S RECOMMENDATION.

WE HONOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION, AND WE, UM, MAINTAIN A LITTLE BIT OF POLITICAL FORTITUDE AND WE LEAVE IT AS IT IS.

BY THE WAY, I'M GONNA DIGRESS FOR A MOMENT.

I WANNA JUST RECOGNIZE TOM GAFFEY TOM, YOU, YOU, UM, I RECENTLY HEARD THE STORY ABOUT THE, UH, ART INSTALLATION

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LIKE WE ALL LOVE DOWNTOWN PETALUMA.

EVERYTHING THAT'S I'M WEARING RIGHT NOW, I BOUGHT A LOUISIE THOMAS, RIGHT? I BUY ALL OF MY BOOKS AT COPPERFIELD.

WE, YOU KNOW, WE MAKE A POINT AT SHOPPING IN DOWNTOWN PETALUMA BECAUSE WE LOVE IT AND WE WANNA PRESERVE IT.

AND A BIG PART OF THAT HISTORY IS THE CONTRIBUTION THAT YOU MADE.

SO I, SO I'VE GOT, UH, I'VE GOT QUITE A FEW THINGS TO SAY TONIGHT.

UM, SO I'LL START WITH, YOU KNOW, LAND USE AND ZONING.

UM, YOU KNOW, GOING BACK TO MY QUESTIONS ABOUT FLEX, IT'S BEEN, I THINK ALMOST THREE YEARS NOW SINCE, SINCE THAT BEGAN.

UM, NOTHING'S BEEN DESIGNATED FLEX.

UM, ONE APPLICANT TRIED, AND THE COUNCIL SAID NO.

AND SO HERE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE GENERAL PLAN, AND IF THERE WAS A NEED FOR IT, I WOULD THINK THAT WE WOULD'VE MADE AT LEAST ONE OF THOSE PROPERTIES FLEX.

BUT WE DIDN'T, COUNCIL DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT.

AND SO I THINK THAT, UM, I THINK WE SHOULD BE GETTING RID OF IT.

UM, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE A PURPOSE, UM, UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING DOWN THE ROAD THAT I'M UNAWARE OF.

BUT, UM, AND I THINK THE IDEA OF FLEX ALSO KIND OF GOES AGAINST THE IDEA OF HAVING ZONING OR A GENERAL PLAN BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING.

IF YOU CAN LAND THAT AS YOUR, YOU KNOW, ON YOUR PARCEL, YOU CAN BE FLEX.

SO, UM, BUT AGAIN, NOTHING'S EVER HAPPENED WITH IT.

AND SO I DON'T, I DON'T SEE WHY WE'VE ACTUALLY GOT IT.

UM, I HAVE BEEN CONCERNED AND OTHERS IN THE, UM, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY HAVE BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT WHY ARE WE NOT DOING THE IZO AT THE SAME TIME PARALLEL WITH THE GENERAL PLAN, BECAUSE WE'RE MAKING A LOT OF DECISIONS IN THE DARK HERE BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW HOW SOME OF THIS LAND USE IS ACTUALLY GONNA LOOK.

IT'S NOT WRITTEN, IT DOESN'T EXIST YET.

UM, YET HERE WE ARE MAKING THESE, THESE BIG DECISIONS RIGHT NOW.

UM, AND THEN BEING TOLD, WELL, WE'LL WE'LL WORRY ABOUT THE IEO LATER.

UM, I, I THINK THAT'S LED TO A LOT OF CONFUSION, I THINK IN SOME OF OUR DECISIONS, UM, AT THESE MEETINGS.

AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, I STILL, I STILL DON'T SEE A POINT TO MAKE OR MICRO, AND AGAIN, THAT TIES INTO WHAT I JUST SAID ABOUT THE IZO.

UM, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, LEMME SEE HERE.

YEAH, I DON'T KNOW.

I, I WORRY ABOUT ALL THE, THE INFILL THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND HOW WE'RE MIXING UP ZONING RIGHT NOW.

AND AGAIN, TO ME IT KIND OF DEFEATS THE, THE PURPOSE OF OF ACTUALLY HAVING ZONING.

YOU HAVE AREAS THAT ARE COMMERCIAL, ARE INDUSTRIAL, OUR RETAIL, OUR HOUSING, AND WE'RE PUTTING THAT IN A BOX AND, AND SHAKING IT UP HERE.

UM, LIKE ONE VERY REAL EXAMPLE THAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW IS, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE, YOU'VE GOT RESIDENTS THAT ARE IN THE RIVERFRONT WAREHOUSE DISTRICT WHO, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S A NEWER DEVELOPMENT.

THERE'S PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE AND UNDERSTANDABLY NOBODY WANTS TO HEAR A LOT OF NOISE.

AND RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET YOU HAVE AN INDUSTRIAL BUSINESS, UM, THAT DOES MAKE NOISE.

'CAUSE THEY'RE A BUSINESS, THAT'S WHAT THEY DO.

AND, AND NOW MIXING EVERYTHING UP LIKE THAT HAS CREATED A BATTLE WHERE YOU, YOU'VE GOT RESIDENTS WHO ARE UPSET, YOU'VE GOT A BUSINESS THAT'S KIND OF UPSET TOO, AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE TRYING TO FIND SOME KIND OF HAPPY MEDIUM, BUT IT'S BECAUSE AT SOME POINT THE CITY ALLOWED THESE TWO THINGS TO BE RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER WHEN THEY PROBABLY NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN.

AND SO I HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS THAT WE'RE DOING MORE OF THAT WITH THIS GENERAL PLAN.

AND ULTIMATELY, I THINK THE ONE WHO LOSES IN THAT IS A BUSINESS.

YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT, THAT YOU CAN GO AFTER AND, AND PUT NOISE ORDINANCES AGAINST OR PUT CONSTRAINTS ABOUT WHEN THEY CAN ACTUALLY OPERATE AND DO BUSINESS.

AND TO ME, THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HINDERS BUSINESS AND ACTUALLY HURTS IT.

SO I DON'T, I, I'VE SEEN A LOT OF THAT IN THIS NEW PLAN, AND I, I, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE DOING THAT.

I THINK IT'S A MISTAKE FOR THE FUTURE.

UM, YOU KNOW, I ASKED QUESTIONS TOO ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PROPERTIES THAT ARE GETTING CHANGED FROM, UH, COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL OR SOME FORM OF TO HOUSING OR SOMETHING SIMILAR.

AND THAT'S NOT TO SAY THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH HOUSING, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT PEOPLE'S SUCCESSION PLANS ARE, THEIR PLANS FOR THEIR BUSINESS.

AND SO IF ONE DAY, UH, WHEN THEY'RE, WHEN THEY'RE DONE AND RETIRED OR THEY WANT TO SELL OR WHATEVER HAPPENS, THEY MIGHT NOT BE

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ABLE TO NOW BECAUSE THEIR ZONING'S DIFFERENT.

AND SO WHAT, WHAT ARE WE DOING TO THOSE BUSINESSES? ARE WE FORCING THEM TO SELL NOW? ARE WE, UM, ARE WE, ARE THEY GONNA HAVE TO WORK TILL THEY'RE A HUNDRED YEARS OLD TO, YOU KNOW, AND TO GET IT GONNA TOTALLY MESS UP THEIR RETIREMENT PLANS? YOU KNOW? SO WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN REACHING OUT ALL ALONG TO THOSE BUSINESSES THAT WERE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE CHANGED, OR ANY PARCELS THAT DID RECEIVE CHANGE IN A WAY THAT'S GOING TO, UM, POTENTIALLY HAVE A MASSIVE IMPACT TO THEIR FUTURE.

SO I'M, I AM CONCERNED THAT WE DIDN'T DO THAT, AND I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE DIDN'T.

I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.

CAN YOU GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF A BUSINESS THAT'S HAD A MASSIVE CHANGE? BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE HAVEN'T MADE ANY REAL MASSIVE CHANGES WITHOUT THE, THE BUSINESS PARK THAT REQUESTED IT.

SO I'M JUST, CAN YOU GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF, OF A BUSINESS? SURE.

UM, OVER ON PETALUMA BOULEVARD NORTH, YOU'VE GOT JANE BELLS, YOU'VE GOT BRODY'S NEXT TO THEM, YOU'VE GOT SHOT WELLS.

AND I BELIEVE, UH, JANE BESS IS NOW, UM, MAKER MICRO, WHICH WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.

HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.

YOU'VE GOT BRODY'S, WHICH IS, LET ME PULL IT UP HERE.

I GOING TO NEIGHBORHOOD STANDARD MIXED USE, AND THAT'S AN, THAT'S AN INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY CURRENTLY, YOU KNOW, OR THOSE PROPERTIES.

AND THAT'S SEVERAL PROPERTIES.

SO THE CITY, YOU KNOW, NEVER ASKED THEM, HEY, DO YOU REALLY WANT THIS? OR HEY, THIS IS WHAT HA WHAT IS HAPPENING? AND UM, NOW THEY'RE GONNA BE KIND OF FORCED TO LIVE WITH IT.

I THINK.

LET'S ASK STAFF IF THEY WANNA WEIGH IN.

WE DID SEND NOTIFICATION OUT TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS THAT WERE SEEING A CHANGE IN LAND USE DESIGNATION.

IF THEY WERE, LET'S, LET'S SAY, INDUSTRIAL TO RESIDENTIAL OR A CHANGE LIKE THAT, WE DID SEND A LETTER OUT TO ALL OF THOSE PROPERTIES LETTING THEM KNOW THAT THERE WAS THIS CONVERSATION HAPPENING AND THERE WAS A POTENTIALLY A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE, UM, AND GAVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME TALK TO US.

UM, SO IF IT WAS SOMETHING THAT SIGNIFICANT, IF IT WAS SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT LIKE THAT THEY DID RECEIVE, THAT WAS WHAT WE DID.

WE SENT NOTIFICATION, CORRECT.

EVERYONE RECEIVED A LETTER THAT THINGS WERE GOING TO POTENTIALLY CHANGE, BUT NOW AS THE DRAFT SITS, THERE'S GOING TO BE REAL CHANGE.

BUT THEY DON'T KNOW THAT NECESSARILY FROM THE CITY.

IT'S, WELL, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE MORE FLEXIBLE, BUT WE DON'T KNOW YET.

WE HAVEN'T SENT ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL.

WE HAVE GIVEN THEM RESOURCES.

WE HAVE OFFERED TO MEET WITH THEM.

WE HAVE GIVEN THEM, UH, LINKS TO INFORMATION TO FOLLOW THE PROCESS.

IF THEY HAVE REACHED OUT TO US AND WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION, THEY CAN, THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO ADD TO NOTIFICATION LISTS THAT HAVE GONE OUT AT THE DIFFERENT STAGES.

SO LET ME ASK ONE FURTHER QUESTION ON THE, ON THE HYPOTHETICAL HERE.

UM, IF A, UH, BUSINESS CHANGES HANDS, DOES ZONING CONSTRAIN THEM, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY THE FUTURE ZONING IS A BUSINESS GRANDFATHERED IN, AND IF IT CHANGES HANDS, DOES THIS BUSINESS REMAIN? UH, IF IT'S A, A LEGALLY ESTABLISHED BUSINESS AND IT DOESN'T VACATE THAT USE FOR MORE THAN A YEAR, IT CAN CONTINUE.

AND, AND, AND IF THEY MAKE MODIFICATIONS THAT, UM, ON THE PROPERTY THAT LIKE EXPANDED OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, ARE THEY ALLOWED TO CONTINUE THAT BUSINESS ON THAT PROPERTY? EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE COMING IN FOR A BUILDING PERMIT? THEY'RE, WE WOULD LOOK AT THAT.

SO YOU CAN'T EXPAND A LEGAL NON-CONFORMING USE, UM, SO THAT THERE'S PROVISIONS IN THE ZONING CODE ABOUT WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH THE LEGAL NON-CONFORMING USE.

YOU CAN CONTINUE IT AS IT IS, AS IT WAS ALLOWED.

UM, AND, AND HAPPY TO LOOK AT INDIVIDUALS, UM, PROPERTIES ON, ON THE CHANGES.

BUT TO, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLES POINT MOST HAVE BEEN VERY LATERAL CHANGES.

UM, AND IF IT, FOR INSTANCE, IF IT WAS, UM, A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, I BELIEVE MAKER MICRO, THE WHOLE IDEA WITH THAT WAS TO BE VERY FLEXIBLE, EXCEPT FOR RESIDENTIAL TO BE VERY FLEXIBLE WITH NON-RESIDENTIAL USES SO THAT THE OPTIONS, IF IT'S CURRENTLY A NON-RESIDENTIAL USE, THAT'S A VERY FLEXIBLE, UM, DESIGNATION EXCEPT FOR THE RESIDENTIAL AND BE, AND THAT IS IN AREAS WHERE WE'RE ANTICIPATING INCREASED FLOODING,

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IT'S NOT FULLY DEFINED AND CONSTRAINED.

SO THAT IS THE BATTLE OF THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US FOR THE IEO.

YEAH, RIGHT.

THAT'S RIGHT.

AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I'LL, I'LL KIND OF DROP THAT, BUT I, I MEAN, I, AGAIN, LIKE ANY PROPERTIES PARCELS WHERE SOMETHING LIKE THAT'S HAPPENING, I WOULD, I WOULD APPRECIATE, AND I WOULD THINK THAT THE CITY WOULD WANNA REACH OUT TO THOSE FOLKS AND SEE IF THEY ARE OKAY WITH IT.

AND IF THEY ARE, THAT'S FINE, YOU KNOW, BUT IF, IF THIS IS GOING TO IMPACT THEM IN SOME WAY THEY DIDN'T FORESEE, UH, WE SHOULD BE RECONSIDERING WHAT WE'VE DONE, THEN EXCUSE ME, THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, ONTO, ONTO THE EIGHT STORY BUILDING, UM, THAT CONVERSATION, YOU KNOW, I'VE, I'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO THE SENATE AND ASSEMBLY BILLS DUE TO US AS FAR AS HOUSING GOES.

THERE'S SO MANY OF 'EM, THERE'S SO MUCH THAT OVERRIDES OUR LOCAL CONTROL.

WE HAVE VERY LITTLE TOOLS AND ABILITY TO ACTUALLY DO ANYTHING.

UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN THOSE PROJECTS COME THROUGH, THERE'S, THERE'S REALLY NO STOPPING THEM.

AND, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE TOOLS TO CONTROL HOW OUR CITY, HOW OUR CITY GROWS.

AND ONE WAY WE CAN DO THAT IS, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY AROUND THE TRAIN STATION, THE IDEA IS TO PUT A LOT OF PEOPLE THERE, YOU KNOW, BUT AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE AESTHETICS, OUR SKYLINE, OUR, UM, SENSE OF PLACE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE NOW, THAT'S, THAT'S WHY A LOT OF PEOPLE LIVE HERE IS, IS BECAUSE OF THAT ENVIRONMENT THAT WE HAVE HERE.

AND, UM, SO ONE OF THE TOOLS THAT WE HAVE IS, YOU KNOW, WE COULD DO SOMETHING LIKE LIMIT THE HEIGHT AROUND THE TRAIN STATION TO FOUR STORIES, KNOWING THAT WITH DENSITY BONUS LAW, IT COULD GO UP HIGHER THAN THAT, AND THEN WE COULD GET ABOUT THE HEIGHT THAT EVERYBODY'S COMFORTABLE WITH.

SO WE COULD LOWER THE BAR AROUND IT, KNOWING THAT WITH THE DENSITY LAWS, IT COULD GET UP TO MORE, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT HIGHER, BUT NOT SOMETHING OUTRAGEOUS, LIKE EIGHT STORIES, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD CHANGE THE TOWN.

AND THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST DOMINO AND MORE TO COME DOWN THE ROAD.

AND SO IT, IT WAS ARTICULATED VERY WELL BY SEVERAL PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU ALL FOR SPEAKING.

BUT WE, OUR JOB IS TO TAKE CARE OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE NOW.

WE SHOULD BE CONSIDERING THE FUTURE GENERATIONS, BUT NOT AT THE EXPENSE OF THOSE WHO LIVE HERE.

NOW, YOU KNOW, THIS GENERAL PLAN IS ABOUT LOOKING OUT INTO THE FUTURE, BUT IT'S ALSO ABOUT WHAT WE'VE GOT RIGHT NOW, WHO LIVES HERE RIGHT NOW.

AND THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE WE NEED TO BE TAKING CARE OF MOST, YOU KNOW, AND AS WELL, IT WAS SAID TOO BY THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT INCREASING THE HEIGHT THAT'S GONNA INCREASE THE VALUE OF THE LAND LAND'S ALREADY EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE AROUND HERE, AND IT'S NOT GOING TO JUST AFFECT THE, YOU KNOW, THE LAND IN QUESTION IT'S GOING TO, THAT'S GONNA RIPPLE OUT TO ALL THE LAND AROUND IT, AND THEN THAT'S GONNA GO UP.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY MAKING ANYTHING MORE AFFORDABLE.

WE'RE, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, INCREASING THE VALUE OF THAT LAND.

SO I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE DOING AS WELL.

UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE LAST THING I WANT TO SAY ABOUT I, I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR ECONOMY AND, AND INDUSTRY HERE, AND AT THE BEGINNING DURING QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, IT WAS TALKED ABOUT THAT YES, THIS IS GONNA BE GOOD FOR JOBS, YES, THIS IS GONNA BE GOOD FOR, UM, FOR, UH, INDUSTRY AND THE ECONOMY.

UM, BUT WE DIDN'T, I, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, I DON'T THINK WE CHANGED ONE PARCEL TO INDUSTRY, OR EXCUSE ME, INDUSTRIAL.

YOU KNOW, WE, WE ONLY CHANGED INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES TO DIFFERENT FORMS OF HOUSING.

SO WE'VE, WE'VE LESSENED THE POOL OF POTENTIAL ECONOMY.

AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, AT THE SAME TIME, WE'VE, WE'VE TAKEN SOME CRITICAL AREAS OVER TIME OF INDUSTRY, YOU KNOW, SPECIFICALLY ALONG THE RIVER, SPECIFICALLY ALONG THE RAILROAD TRACKS.

AND THOSE, THOSE ARE UNIQUE FORMS OF TRANSPORTATION WE COULD BE USING THAT ACTUALLY HELP BUILD PETALUMA WITH PETALUMA HERE BECAUSE OF THE RIVER.

UM, IT GREW BECAUSE OF THE RAILROAD, AND THAT WAS BECAUSE THERE WAS INDUSTRY ALL ALONG IT.

AND NOW WHAT WE'RE DOING IS CHANGING THAT TO HOUSING.

AND AGAIN, WE DO NEED HOUSING.

THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH IT, BUT THOSE ARE AREAS AND CORRIDORS THAT I THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE PROTECTING.

WE SHOULD BE KEEPING THOSE INDUSTRIAL.

AND EVEN THOUGH SOME OF THEM, YES, THEY ARE VACANT NOW AND MAYBE HAVE BEEN FOR SEVERAL YEARS, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE GENERAL PLAN AND WHAT THE FUTURE

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HOLDS.

WE DON'T KNOW IF THAT NEED IS GONNA ARISE IN THE FUTURE.

IF RIVER TRANSPORTATION IS GONNA COME BACK, IF RAIL TRANSPORTATION IS GONNA COME BACK AND THEY SHOULD, UM, IT'S, IT'S A LOT GREENER.

YOU CAN MOVE HUGE VOLUMES OF CARGO AND GOODS, UM, BY RIVER, BY RAIL, AND, AND THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD HELP US MEET OUR CLIMATE GOALS.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD THING.

WE SHOULD BE PROTECTING THOSE THINGS INSTEAD OF, UH, TURNING THEM INTO HOUSING.

SO I, I DON'T SEE HOW THE GENERAL PLAN IMPROVES INDUSTRY HERE AND JOBS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE OTHER THING WE TALK ABOUT WITH, WITH JOBS IS WE NEED TO PUT HOUSING ALL AROUND THE TRAIN STATION SO PEOPLE CAN GO TO THEIR JOBS.

WELL, WAIT A MINUTE, DON'T WE WANT THEM TO HAVE THEIR JOB HERE IN PETALUMA? I DON'T WANT OUR TOWN TO BE A COMMUTER TOWN.

SO OUR FOCUS SHOULD BE CREATING THOSE JOBS HERE, OR AT LEAST MAKING IT EASIER FOR THOSE JOBS TO APPEAR HERE.

AND NOT, NOT MAKING IT ALL ABOUT PACKING HOUSING IN AROUND THESE CRUCIAL AREAS OF OUR TOWN, OR CREATING HEIGHT THAT DOES NOT, THAT IS NOT WHAT PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE WANT TO SEE.

UM, I FORGET COUNCILLOR CATER THOMPSON.

DID I OFFER YOU A CHANCE IN YET? YOU ALREADY WEIGHED IN.

I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, QUINT AND THE CLOTHES I'M WEARING ARE FROM ETHICAL CLOTHING, , AND I SHOP IN MY TOWN, OKAY.

AND I HAVE KIDS THAT I, I HAVE GRANDKIDS AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM LIVE HERE.

NOT EVERYBODY HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE FAMILIES THAT OWN HOMES THAT THEY CAN MOVE INTO.

WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE, AT THE GENERATIONS THAT ARE NOT AS LUCKY, AND WE NEED HOUSING IN THIS TOWN.

WE HAVE, UM, MEASURE B IS ON THE, ON THE BALLOT, AND THAT'S ABOUT THE SMART TRAIN.

UM, AND HOUSING, SHOULD GODEN, HIGH DENSITY SHOULD GO AROUND OUR SMART STATION DOWNTOWN.

WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR 30 YEARS, THAT, THAT, THAT WE NEED HOUSING DOWN BY THE SMART STATION AND WE'RE NOT MOVING FORWARD.

AND THEN WE TALK ABOUT HEIGHT, UM, IT'S ALWAYS RESTRICTIVE.

AND THEN WE HAVE PROJECTS THAT COME THROUGH, YOU KNOW, SIX STORIES CAN'T DO IT, AND IT HITS OUR, HITS OUR POCKETBOOK SO PEOPLE CAN HAVE BETTER ROADS, PARKS, POLICE, AND FIRE.

AND WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE ECONOMICS OF WHAT A GENERAL PLAN BRINGS TO OUR COMMUNITY.

AND I THINK THAT ALL THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE, I DON'T THINK THEY DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO MOVE INTO PETALUMA.

I THINK THEY, I MEAN, I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE MY YOUNG NEIGHBORS THAT ARE MOVING HERE, UM, AND I WANNA SEE HOUSING THAT IS AFFORDABLE, BUT I ALSO WANNA SEE A MIX OF HOUSING, NOT JUST, UM, RENTAL.

SO WE NEED TO START LOOKING AT A MIX, AND THAT'S WHAT I THINK THIS GENERAL PLAN DOES.

AND WHEN YOU HAVE A RAIL IN THE HEART OF YOUR TOWN, I MEAN, JUST, YOU KNOW, TWO DAYS AGO I MET SOMEBODY THAT WAS WALKING TO THE SMART STATION AND HE WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT HOW GREAT IT IS, BUT THEN HE, HE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE PROPERTY AROUND THE SMART STATION AND WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE, AND I WAS TALKING TO SOMEBODY ELSE.

SO THIS IS JUST WITHIN THE LAST WEEK ABOUT THE SMART STATION.

THEY REALLY LIKE COMING HERE, BUT THEY DON'T FEEL REALLY COMFORTABLE WALKING INTO DOWNTOWN FROM OUR SMART STATION.

SO I THINK WE EITHER START MOVING FORWARD, BUT WE CAN'T RESTRICT, UM, DEVELOPMENT, WHICH OUR COUNCIL MEMBER NOW, I APPRECIATE THAT IT REALLY RESTRICTED, UM, GROWTH BECAUSE OF THE LIMITATIONS.

AND SO EITHER WE WANNA STAY STAGNANT WHERE WE'RE AT, OR WE WANNA MOVE INTO THE NEXT CENTURY.

AND, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF US AREN'T GONNA BE HERE, BUT WE DO NEED TO HAVE, UM, A GENERAL PLAN THAT IS FOR THE FUTURE.

AND I WAS RAISED IN A FAMILY, AND I'VE BEEN IN PETALUMA MY WHOLE LIFE.

WE WANTED PEOPLE TO BE IN THIS TOWN.

PEOPLE CAME TO OUR RANCH, THEY BOUGHT EGGS, THEY KNEW WHO WE WERE, UM, BUT WE DIDN'T WANT THEM NOT TO BE HERE BECAUSE THAT WAS KIND OF OUR BREAD AND BUTTER, AND I WANNA FINISH.

AND IT WAS OUR BREAD AND BUTTER.

AND SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE PEOPLE THAT MOVED TO THE EAST SIDE AND THE PEOPLE THAT CAME FROM ALL AROUND TO COME TO OUR RANCH AND BUY WHAT, WHETHER IT WAS THE FRIED CHICKEN, THE EGGS, THE DOG FOOD, WHATEVER IT WAS.

AND THAT'S THE KIND OF TOWN THAT I WANNA SEE IS ONE THAT'S REALLY WELCOMING TO NEW PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING IN HERE AND NOT JUST STAY STAGNANT, UM, WITH MY AGE GROUP.

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I, I DO WANNA SAY ONE THING.

I DO APPRECIATE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE MAKERS, UM, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS KIND OF CONFUSING.

WHAT DOES THAT REALLY MEAN? AND IT, AND TO ME NOW IT SOUNDS LIKE IT JUST MEANS THAT BUSINESSES CAN STAY AS IS IN THESE AREAS, BUT IN THE FUTURE THEY CAN MAKE CHANGES IF THEY WANT TO.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT IS HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY FOR EXISTING BUSINESSES TO HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY.

AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT IS PART OF IT, SO IT MAKES MUCH MORE SENSE, UM, THAT THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE, UM, CERTAIN DESIGNATIONS FOR FLEXIBILITY.

AND THAT'S IMPORTANT.

THE REALITY IS, IS THAT EVER SINCE, YOU KNOW, THE AUTOMOBILE CAME ABOUT, LIKE WE LIVE REGIONALLY, AND THAT BASICALLY CREATE, YOU KNOW, COMPLETELY DISRUPTED THE LAND USE PARADIGM AND THE TRANSPORTATION PARADIGM THAT WE HAD WHEN CITIES WERE INITIALLY EVEN CONCEIVED.

UM, IN A MINUTE, .

UM, SO, UM, I, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE GENERAL PLAN.

UM, IT'S VERY HOUSING FORWARD AND, UM, AND QUALITY OF LIFE FORWARD.

AND, UM, I'M HOPEFUL THAT THAT PIVOTS IT FROM WHAT WE'VE SEEN OVER THE PAST YEARS WHERE WE JUST HAVEN'T BUILT MUCH OF ANY HOUSING.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE, THERE'S ONE APARTMENT BUILDING HERE OR HERE, BUT, UM, OUR NUMBERS ARE REALLY LOW.

AND THE GREATEST IMPEDIMENT TO BUSINESS IN PETALUMA IS LABOR, AND LABOR IS RELATED TO HAVING HOUSING AND HAVING AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

SO I LOOK FORWARD TO THIS AS A BUSINESS FORWARD.

UH, THE WAY WE WERE TALKING, THIS IS BUSINESS FORWARD, IF YOU HAVE LABOR IN THE AREA, AND LABOR IS CONSUMER, SO I KIND OF LIKE THE CONSUMER TO MAKE THE ECONOMY GO AROUND.

THAT'S ALL A GOOD THING.

UM, UH, I, UH, I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THE, TO BUILDING FROM A VARIETY OF REASONS.

ONE, THE, UM, CONCERN THAT, UH, IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE BECAUSE IT'S PREVAILING WAGE, UH, TWO FEEDBACKS ON THAT.

ONE IS PREVAILING WAGE IS GOOD UNION JOBS, AND NUMBER ALL FOUR GOOD UNION JOBS.

AND SO I DON'T WANNA SAY PREVAILING IS BAD.

AND PREVAILING STARTS WITH EVERY AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

ONCE YOU TAKE A NICKEL FROM A GOVERNMENT AGENCY, NO MATTER HOW MANY STORIES YOU'RE BUILDING, YOU'RE UNDER PREVAILING WAGE LAWS OR YOU PUT IN A NEW WATER PIPE FOR THE CITY, YOU'RE UNDER PREVAILING WAGE LOSS.

THAT'S, UH, THAT'S A SYSTEM WE HAVE IN PLACE RIGHT NOW SO THAT THERE ARE GOOD JOBS, BUT THERE IS STILL PROFIT OPPORTUNITIES FOR THOSE WHO ARE NON-UNION SHOPS.

UM, I'M, I'M REALLY GLAD TO HAVE THAT.

UM, I'M REALLY GLAD THAT THE GPAC RECOMMENDED THIS AND I APPRECIATE YOU, UM, BEING HERE TO, TO MENTION THAT AND THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION SIGNED OFF ON THAT.

IT WASN'T SOMETHING OUT OF THE BOX THE COUNCIL CAME UP WITH, WITH THIS DENSITY ON THIS ONE LOT.

AND, UM, REALLY, UH, HAPPY THAT WE ARE, WE ARE NOT TALKING A A, A BIG BOX OF EIGHT STORY.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, A WELL DESIGNED FACILITY THAT THAT WOULD, WOULD BE THERE, AND THAT'LL HAPPEN BECAUSE WE ALL STILL PAY ATTENTION IN THE NEXT STEP WITH IT.

WE'RE NOT DONE TONIGHT.

WE'RE PAYING ATTENTION AS WE GET INTO THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

UM, UM, AND I DO APPRECIATE THAT ANY ADDED HEIGHT OVER THE EIGHT STORIES WOULD ONLY BE IN, UH, TERMS OF AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AND WHILE I WILL STAND UP AND SAY THAT WE NEED A HOUSING IN EVERY DEMOGRAPHIC, I MEAN, IF THERE'S NO HOUSING THAT DOCTORS LIKE TO LIVE IN, WE LOSE OUR HOSPITAL.

WE, THERE'S JUST, WE NEED TO FIT EVERY DEMOGRAPHIC AND WE NEED TO BUILD DIFFERENT TYPOLOGIES.

BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT I'D WANT TO BUILD THEM ALL OUT AT CORONA STATION.

I THINK IF WE CAN CLUSTER PEOPLE WHERE THERE ARE DEVELOPED AREAS WHERE YOU'RE CLOSER TO TRANSIT, THAT'S JUST A BETTER CLIMATE.

AND, UM, S FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY POSITION, I, I, I WOULDN'T WANNA PUT TOO MUCH FURTHER TO THE OUTER AREAS.

UM, AND IF WE DID USE THE OUTER AREAS, THAT'S LIKELY WHERE THE DOCTOR HOUSING GOES, AND IT'S NOT GONNA BE TALL OUT THERE.

SO I, I KIND OF VIEW AS WHICH, WHICH ONE OF THE PONIES IN THIS RACE IS GONNA CROSS THE FINISH LINE FIRST.

AND I'D LIKE SOME OF EACH TYPE TO WORK.

AND SINCE WE'VE NOT ACHIEVED AT THINGS, I SEE LOOSENING UP ON THIS ONE PARCEL AS A VERY INCREMENTAL AND MODEST CHANGE, UM, I WOULD BE HOPEFUL THAT ONE THING, ONE GOOD THING HAPPENS, I'M NOT FEARFUL THAT ALL THE THINGS WILL HAPPEN.

UM, SO, UM, PRETTY MUCH I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING WE'VE DONE TO GET US DOWN THE ROAD THIS FAR AND, AND I THINK WE'VE CRAFTED IT IN.

I, I, UM, I CONCUR.

I DON'T WANT TO OPEN UP THE ESSENTIAL SPECIFIC PLAN AGAIN.

WE'RE PRETTY GOOD ON THAT.

AND WE HAVE ANOTHER SPECIFIC PLAN TO ROLL OUT ON TOP OF THAT.

SO, UH, WE, WE'VE PLANNED OURSELVES INTO A PRETTY GOOD PLACE AND I'M READY TO MOVE IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL.

DID WE HAVE ANY MORE COMMENT HERE? COUNCILMAN BARAL? YEAH, I'LL JUST, I THINK WE ARE A COMMUTER TOWN.

THERE'S 18,000 PEOPLE WHO COMMUTE INTO OUR CITY AND 20 THAT COMMUTE OUT EVERY DAY.

UM, I THINK ONLY 20% OF THE PEOPLE WHO, UH, WHO LIVE IN OUR, WHO WORK IN OUR CITY LIVE HERE, RIGHT? LIKE THAT WAS FROM THE, YOU KNOW, INITIAL STUDIES THAT WE DID, RIGHT? SO, UM, AND

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AND SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SEE AND WHAT WE SEE WITH SANTA ROSA AND THEIR, AND THEIR BUILDING, AND SAN RAFAEL AND THESE OTHER SORT OF, YOU KNOW, LIKE THOSE ARE BECOMING THE SORT OF MAIN JOB MARKETS FOR OUR REGION.

AND, YOU KNOW, CONNECTING, YOU KNOW, A REGIONAL JOB MARKET, YOU KNOW, AND PROVIDING ACCESS TO THE REGIONAL JOB MARKET IS THE FUTURE OF, OF OUR, UM, YOU KNOW, OF THE NORTH BAY.

AND, UM, WE, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT CITIES, YOU KNOW, THE RESPONSIBLE THING TO DO, LIKE, UM, HAVING A TRAIN IS NICE.

UH, THERE WAS A GUY, DAVIN, WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THE INITIAL SMART PROPO, UH, THE NORTH STATION PROJECT, HE SAID, YOU KNOW, SMART TRAIN'S GONNA BE A, UM, A SKI LIFT FOR THE WEALTHY AND PETALUMA IS GONNA BE A TOWN FOR THE RICH.

UM, AND THE, THAT'S A, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A, IT WAS A COMMENT MADE ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WE ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT DOING THE THINGS TO MAKE THE SMART TRAIN ACTUALLY A VIABLE ALTERNATIVE FOR US.

AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE'RE NOT THE LAND USE PARADIGMS, THE LAND USE, WE HAVE NOT BUILT TRANSIT ORIENTED COMMUNITIES.

AND UNTIL WE DO THAT, THE SMART TRAIN IS, YOU KNOW, A COSTLY, UM, PIECE OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE ARE INVESTING IN.

BUT THE, THE RETURN ON THE SMART TRAIN COMES WHEN WE ACTUALLY BUILD TRANSIT ORIENTED COMMUNITIES AND LINK TOGETHER MAJOR JOB CENTERS AND HOUSING CENTERS.

UM, AND, YOU KNOW, THAT WASN'T WHAT WE WERE, UH, FOUNDED ON, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED PLUS YEARS AGO.

BUT, UM, PLACES CHANGE AND, UM, THE FUTURE OF OUR COMMUNITY IS, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY, UM, PEOPLE LIVING IN, IN MORE DENSE, WALKABLE AREAS.

AND SO I HOPE THAT I'M, I'LL MOVE THIS ITEM AS IS.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND THEN A COMMENT, I, I JUST HAVE A COMMENT BECAUSE, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER BAR BARNACLE BROUGHT UP THAT ONLY WEALTHY PEOPLE WERE GONNA USE THE SMART TRAIN.

WELL, THAT'S NOT TRUE.

WHAT WE FIND IS IT'S LIKE, UM, SOMETHING LIKE 30%, 30% OF LOWER INCOME ACTUALLY USE THE SMART TRAIN AND IT'S REALLY PROPORTIONAL WITH, UM, IT'S PROPORTIONAL WITH WHO LIVES HERE AND, AND THE RATIOS, RIGHT? YEAH.

SO I JUST WANNA BE REAL CLEAR ON THAT.

IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT FOR THE WHITE WEALTHY PEOPLE THAT CAME UP IN A MEETING IN THE, UH, IN THE, THAT CONTENTION WAS RAISED AT A MEETING, THE GENERAL MANAGER SMART WAS IN THE ROOM EXACTLY.

AND LAUNCHED INTO IT A DEFENSIVE, UH, DON'T CALL US THAT.

YEAH, EXACTLY.

COUNCIL MEMBER SCHREVE.

AN EIGHT BECAUSE NO ONE'S GONNA USE THAT.

JUST ADDING A, A, A COMMENT, SOMETHING TO, TO THINK ABOUT, UM, ON THE HOTEL DOWNTOWN, SIX STORIES, AND IT'S ONLY 120 FOOT BY 60 FOOT, AND PEOPLE WERE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE MASSIVE, THE BUILDING MASS, BUT IT WOULD FEEL LIKE RIGHT THERE, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SEVERAL ACRES, SEVERAL HUNDRED FEET LONG, COUPLE HUNDRED FEET WIDE AND EIGHT STORIES TALL THING ABOUT THE MASSIVE BUILDING THAT THAT WOULD CREATE, EVEN IF YOU MADE IT PRETTY AND NICE, ALL THAT LOOKING, THAT MASSIVE STRUCTURE I THINK WOULD JUST COMPLETELY CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF OUR DOWNTOWN.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT RIGHT NOW.

NOW, UM, THE LOOK AND FEEL.

AND, UH, I'M ALSO WORRIED ABOUT THE ECONOMICS OF, UM, AS FAR AS GETTING IT BUILT FROM WHAT I'M HEARING, UM, IT'S NOT GONNA BE SIX OR SEVEN OR EIGHT, IT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE 10 STORIES, AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

UM, SO THAT THEY HAVE THAT THE BONUS AND THEN IT BECOMES POSSIBLE TO PENCIL AT 10 STORIES.

CAN YOU TAKE 10 STORIES, WHICH THEY'RE, IF WE SAY EIGHT, THEY CAN DO 10.

LEGALLY THEY'RE IN, THEY MAKE IT MASSIVE.

THEY PUT IN INSTEAD OF 800 PEOPLE, THEY PUT IN 2000 PEOPLE AND THEY MAKE IT WORK THAT WAY.

SO, UM, THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE AND THE MASSIVENESS OF THAT BUILDINGS IN THAT SPOT, UM, UH, I DON'T THINK THAT IS A PRACTICAL OR REASONABLE WAY OF GOING ABOUT THIS.

UM, SO I'M, THAT'S WHAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT IN, IN, UH, THE VOLUME AND SIZE HERE.

I THINK IT'S OUT OF CHARACTER FOR, UH, IF THEY DO THAT IN SANTA ROSA, FINE, BUT, BUT HERE IN PETALUMA, I'D HAVE TO AGREE WITH THE FOLKS THAT HAVE TALKED TO US AND SENT US INFORMATION IN AND SAID THEY DON'T WANT THAT.

AND I THINK WE NEED TO LISTEN.

UM, COULD I SUGGEST WE DO A STRAW POLL ON IT JUST TO SEE HOW EVERYBODY FEELS AND LOOK AT CHANGING THAT TO EITHER THREE OR FOUR STORIES, KNOWING THAT IT COULD GO UP WITH DENSITY BONUSES VERSUS WHO WANTS TO KEEP IT AT EIGHT? UM, YEAH, I, I, I THINK THAT'S, UM, CERTAINLY A GOOD IDEA.

UM, I DO WANNA SAY THAT OUR LETTER WRITER, PUBLIC PERSON TONIGHT SAID THAT THE TENS ARE, UH, UC, BERKELEY, TENSOR CENTER.

TURNER CENTER, UM, SAID THAT SIX STORIES WAS THE SWEET SPOT IN SEVEN, EIGHT WAS THE PROBLEM.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T NEED TO PUT IN

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THAT'S THE SAME FLAWED LOGIC OF US TRYING TO DECIDE WHAT A BUILDER WILL DO.

SO I'M OKAY WITH, UM, HAVING JUST ALLOTTED, UH, DIFFERENT THEORIES AND US PUTTING A PALLET ON THE TABLE, BUT I LIKE YOUR IDEA OF A STRAW POLL, SO I'LL JUST WORK IT THIS WAY.

UM, SO THOSE WHO WISH TO KEEP IT AT EIGHT, UH, CAN GIMME A SHOW OF HANDS AND, AND, UH, WE'LL SEE WHERE WE'RE GOING HERE.

SO WE'VE GOT, UM, FOUR AND, UM, SO I THINK IT'LL CARRY AT EIGHT.

SO, UM, THIS IS OUR FIRST READING.

WE HAVE A, A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

AND DO WE HAVE A SECOND MOTION FOR MOVING THE GENERAL PLAN FORWARD, OR IS IT SPECIFIC TO SOMETHING? IT IS, I'M SORRY, FOR THE MOTION MAKER.

UH, TO MOVE THE GENERAL PLAN AND THE, UM, EIR FORWARD FOR PRODUCTION.

I'LL SECOND THAT.

AND A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.

MOTION CARRIES WITH COUNCIL MEMBER DI CARLY VOTING.

NO.