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          IT WAS NOT 
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WORKING. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          GOOD 
          [CALL TO ORDER]
THING WE STARTED A MINUTE EARLY. 
          WE WORKED OUT ALL THE, ALL THE KINKS HERE. 
          UH, SO GOOD AFTERNOON AND WELCOME TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PETALUMA TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR WEDNESDAY, MAY 20TH, 2026. 
          AND TO GET US STARTED, I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO TAKE ROLL. 
          BERTELLI HERE. 
          COVER HERE. 
          GENTILE. 
          HERE. 
          KUZEN HERE. 
          SANCHEZ HERE. 
          AND HILT. 
          HI. 
          I AM HERE. 
          I'M VIRTUAL, AND UM, I'M SUPPOSED TO ANNOUNCE THAT I'M HERE BY MYSELF. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE HAVE A QUORUM. 
          OKAY. 
          TERRIFIC. 
          UH, THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR BEING HERE TODAY. 
          UH, SO WITH 
          [GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT]
THAT, WE WILL MOVE TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON ITEMS OF PUBLIC INTEREST WITHIN OUR JURISDICTION, NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA, BUT WE DO NOT HAVE A PUBLIC IN PERSON TODAY. 
          SO I'LL ASK IF WE RECEIVED, I'LL ASK THE CLERK IF WE RECEIVED ANY ONLINE COMMENTS FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT PRIOR TO THE MEETING. 
          WE RECEIVED ONE VIA EMAIL AND IT HAS BEEN POSTED ONLINE. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          UH, SO WITH THAT, I WILL, AGAIN, BECAUSE NO ONE'S IN ATTENDANCE, I WILL CLOSE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT AND WE WILL NOW MOVE TO 
          [APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
APPROVAL OF MINUTES. 
          SO THESE ARE THE APPROVAL OF OUR APRIL MEETING MINUTES. 
          SO IF ANYONE HAS NOTES OR POINTS OF INTEREST, UH, OR CHANGES, PLEASE COMMENT NOW ON THE MINUTES FROM LAST MEETING. 
          ARYN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I THOUGHT THE MINUTES, UM, UH, REFLECTED THE MEETING AND I JUST WANNA CALL OUT. 
          ONE POINT THAT IT INCLUDES WAS THAT WE DISCUSSED, UM, HOPEFULLY DOING, UH, COMMEMORATION OF THE HARD WORK THAT THE TREE COMMITTEE OF THE PAST HAS DONE, UM, TO ACHIEVE A GREAT SUCCESS, THE NEW TREE ORDINANCE. 
          AND WE DISCUSS PUTTING IT ON THAT THIS MEETING'S AGENDA, WHICH, UM, I SEE IS NOT ON THE AGENDA. 
          THAT'S FINE. 
          MAYBE WE CAN DO IT NEXT MONTH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GREAT NOTE, TARYN. 
          I WANNA MAKE SURE WE DON'T PASS THAT OVER AS AN OVERSIGHT. 
          I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA TO COMMEMORATE THE UFMP AND THE ORDINANCE. 
          IT'S A BIG DEAL. 
          SO, UH, WELL, WITH THAT, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE DON'T HAVE ANY AMENDMENTS TO MAKE TO THE MINUTES, SO WE WILL MOVE FORWARD. 
          WE WILL APPROVE THE MINUTES AS WRITTEN, UH, WITH TARYN'S NOTE FOR THE FUTURE. 
          UH, SO MOVING ON FOR MINUTES, WE MOVE INTO PUBLIC HEARINGS 
          [PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION]
AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION. 
          AND REALLY TODAY IS ALL ABOUT AD HOCS. 
          SO THE FIRST ITEM IS THE AD HOC COMMITTEE UPDATES. 
          AND, UH, WE HAD PLANNED TO DO KIND OF A TAG TEAM INTRODUCTION HERE BETWEEN JEN SANTOS, OUR STAFF LIAISON, AND MYSELF. 
          AND I REALLY JUST WANTED TO, I GUESS, TO ROLL RIGHT INTO IT, JUST TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT I WOULD, I WANT THE AD HOCS OR I, I ENVISIONED THE AD HOCS AS BEING KIND OF STAND, UH, STANDING CHECK-INS THAT WE HAVE EVERY MEETING, ASSUMING WE HAVE TIME. 
          AND WE DON'T HAVE BIG ITEMS THAT ARE GONNA TOTALLY TAKE UP THE ENTIRE MEETING THAT WE HAVE, UH, STANDING TIME FOR AD HOCS, NOT ONLY TO PRESENT. 
          I KNOW TARYN AND DIANE OF THE PROTECT AD HOC HAD DONE A LOT OF WORK AND PUT TOGETHER A PRESENTATION AND KIND OF ACTION ITEMS FOR TODAY, WHICH IS FANTASTIC. 
          AND I WAS TELLING JEN, FIRST OF ALL, NOT ONLY DID I FEEL BAD ABOUT NOT HAVING A COMPARABLE PRESENTATION, BUT THAT THIS IS ALSO A TIME FOR AD HOC MEMBERS TO BE ABLE TO COLLABORATE. 
          UH, SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE PRESENTATION TIME FOR 10, 15 MINUTES, BUT THEN IF OUR OTHER AD HOCS HAVE IDEAS, POINTS OF INTEREST, THAT CAN KIND OF GET THE BALL ROLLING FOR FUTURE WORK, BECAUSE IDEALLY ALL THE MEMBERS WILL BE AT THIS MEETING. 
          AND SO YOU'RE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, ASK YOUR OTHER MEMBERS, HEY, IS THERE AN ITEM THAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE PUBLIC WE'RE SEEING FROM THE URBAN FORESTRY MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT WE WANT TO BRING FORWARD AND WORK ON THIS MONTH? AND MAYBE KICKSTART SOME OF THOSE MEETINGS. 
          'CAUSE I KNOW THEY'RE HARD. 
          LIKE I SAID, I DID NOT GET OUT THERE AND BE PROACTIVE AND GET INTO A MEETING THIS MONTH. 
          SO IT CAN BE HARD TO KICKSTART THAT WITH AD HOCS, BUT I THINK HONESTLY, DIANE AND TERRAN HAVE SHOWN A GREAT WAY THAT YOU CAN MOVE FORWARD. 
          I THINK SOME OF THAT INFORMATION COULD EVEN BE INCORPORATED INTO OTHER FOLKS' MEETINGS. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. 
          AND THEN ALSO, YOU KNOW, HAVE THAT UNDERSTANDING THAT AS WE WORK IN OUR AD HOCS TOGETHER AND WE THINK OF GREAT IDEAS AND DISCUSS THEM, THAT REALLY STAFF IS THERE TO HELP WITH IMPLEMENTATION. 
          UM, AND THERE'S KIND OF A BALANCE. 
          SO UNDERSTANDING TREE COMMITTEE'S ROLE, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS A LOT IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW, THAT WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC TASK WE'RE ASKED TO DO BY COUNCIL. 
          WE'RE A LITTLE BIT LIMITED, BUT IT'S NOT REALLY A LIMITATION. 
          WE CAN DO WORK, COORDINATE WITH STAFF, AND THEN BRING THINGS TO OUR MEETINGS TO SEE WHAT ARE ACTIONABLE ITEMS THAT WE CAN DO THAT AREN'T STEPPING OVER STAFF, THAT AREN'T STEPPING OUT OF OUR WHEELHOUSE, 
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IF YOU WILL. 
          UM, BUT I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF IDEAS THAT STAFF IS ACTUALLY GONNA BE ABLE TO HELP IMPLEMENT. 
          AND HEY, IF THERE ARE ITEMS WHERE WE CAN GO UP TO A HIGHER POWER, AS IT WERE AND BRING IT FORWARD, THEN STAFF IS OUR CHANNEL TO DO THAT, RIGHT? JEN IS OUR BRIDGE TO KICK THINGS TO THE NEXT LEVEL. 
          IF WE WANT TO MOVE THINGS FORWARD, WRITE LETTERS OF RECOMMENDATION, WE, WHATEVER IT IS, UM, IT'S REALLY GREAT RESOURCE AS AGAIN, OUR AD HOCS MEET TO REACH OUT TO JEN, UH, EVEN, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT OUR MEETINGS AND JUST SAY, HEY, OUR AD HOC HAD THIS IDEA AND SHE'S BEEN, I, I DON'T KNOW, SHE MAY REGRET SAYING THIS, BUT SHE SAID THAT SHE'S AVAILABLE, YOU KNOW, FOR ANYONE WITH IDEAS. 
          IF YOU GUYS WANT, IF YOU GUYS HAVE DONE SOME OF THAT INITIAL WORK TO GET SOME GOOD IDEAS IN MOTION, COORDINATE WITH JEN. 
          SO WITH THAT, I'LL PASS IT OFF TO JEN TO GIVE A LITTLE MORE KIND OF, UH, UH, INFORMATION ABOUT THAT. 
          THANK YOU CHAIR CUSON. 
          I, UH, YES, I THINK YOU SAID IT, IT REALLY WELL, BUT I ALSO WANTED TO, UM, INVITE THE COMMITTEE TO CONTACT ME AS YOU NEED AS YOU'RE WORKING IN YOUR AD HOCS. 
          I AM YOUR LIAISON. 
          I'M HERE TO HELP. 
          IT'S HELPFUL FOR ME AS WELL FOR THIS MEETING IN PREPARATION OF THIS MEETING TO ASSIST WITH QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE DIALOGUE, CONNECTING YOU WITH OTHER STAFF MEMBERS OR MAKING THOSE CONNECTIONS AND JUST GENERALLY BEING OF ASSISTANCE TO THIS COMMITTEE. 
          UM, I'VE SERVED ON MANY, UH, COMMITTEES AND BOARDS IN THE PAST, AND, UH, I, I DEFINITELY WILL NOT REGRET IT. 
          IT'S ALWAYS A FANTASTIC THING FOR ME TO SHARE MY TIME IN ADVANCE AND LISTEN TO ALL THE FANTASTIC IDEAS. 
          ESPECIALLY, UH, THIS COMMITTEE HAS DONE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK, SO I'M HAPPY TO HELP PUSH THAT FORWARD HOWEVER I CAN AND, AND BE OF ASSISTANCE HOWEVER I CAN. 
          UM, YEAH, SO I, I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          AND I ALSO WANTED TO ADD A LITTLE, A LITTLE PREFACE TO, UM, THE PROTECT UPDATE AND, UH, UH, COMMITTEE MEMBERS, GENTILE AND OBEY HAVE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB AND, UH, WE WERE ABLE TO CONNECT PRIOR TO THIS MEETING, UH, ON THE PROTECT END. 
          IT'S JUST, I CAN'T WAIT FOR YOU TO HEAR IT ALL. 
          IT'S REALLY GREAT. 
          I JUST WANTED TO ADD ONE STIPULATION THAT WE, LIKE THE CHAIR MENTIONED, ARE LOOKING AT THIS INFORMATION FOR DISCUSSION TODAY AND NOT NECESSARILY APPROVALS. 
          WE'RE LOOKING FOR A GOOD, HEARTY CONVERSATION. 
          SO I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO THE CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          AND I JUST WANNA REINFORCE HOW BIG OF A RESOURCE THAT IS FOR US. 
          I THINK IN THE PAST WE'VE ALMOST FELT HELD BACK OR I JUST DON'T WANT ANY FRICTION BETWEEN THE COMMITTEE THAT IS CHOMPING AT THE BIT TO DO THINGS AND STAFF. 
          WE HAVE AN ALLY AND STAFF AS A LIAISON WHO CAN HELP US TO GET THINGS DONE THAT WE WANNA GET DONE. 
          UH, AND WITH THAT, UH, SPEAKING OF COMMITTEE MEMBERS, GENTILE AND OBEYED AND THEIR GREAT PRESENTATION, I WOULD NOW INTRODUCE THE PROTECT AD HOC AND INVITE OUR TWO COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO PRESENT ON THE WORK THEY'VE BEEN DOING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, DIANA AND I ARE GOING TO KIND OF BE VERY CONVERSATIONAL AND, UH, DELIVERING A SUMMARY OF THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE. 
          I'D LIKE TO START BY SAYING THANK YOU FOR THOSE, UM, VISION GUIDING COMMENTS, CHAIR, KUSON. 
          UM, AND IT'S REALLY WONDERFUL TO HEAR, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE, NOT JUST WORDS, BUT JEN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR REACHING OUT TO US. 
          YEAH. 
          SCHEDULING A MEETING WITH US, DISCUSSING IN DEPTH WITH JUST SUCH A WONDERFUL ATTITUDE AND INSIGHTS THAT I WANNA SAY. 
          WHAT WE DISCUSSED TODAY, UM, IS, IS TWICE AS GOOD, EASILY TWICE AS GOOD BECAUSE OF THE FEEDBACK WE GOT YESTERDAY. 
          AND IF YOU CAN GET AN EFFECTIVENESS OR AN EFFICIENCY BUMP LIKE THAT, UH, WHAT A POWERFUL THING FOR THIS COMMITTEE AND, UM, AND FOR ULTIMATELY THE WORK THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO FOR THE BENEFIT OF EVERYBODY. 
          SO, UM, DIANE AND I DID A LOT OF WORK. 
          WE PRODUCED, WE STARTED WITH THE GUIDING DOCUMENT THAT YOU SAW IN OUR LAST MONTH'S MEETING, UM, TO KIND OF LAY OUT HOW SHOULD WE APPROACH LOOKING AT SOME GOOD IDEAS. 
          AND WE HAD, I THINK IT WAS FIVE GOOD IDEAS AND THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR YOUR FEEDBACK. 
          UH, MARYANNE AND UM, KEITH, UM, WE'RE VERY HELPFUL, ESPECIALLY, UM, WITH HELPING US SELECT DOWN, NARROW IT DOWN TO THREE. 
          SO WE CHOSE THREE AND WE KIND OF LOOKED AT THREE IDEAS THROUGH THE LENS OF, UM, WHAT IS THE BIGGEST BANG WE'RE GOING TO GET HERE VERSUS THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT'S NEEDED. 
          NOT JUST BY TREE COMMITTEE, BUT WE WERE TRYING TO CHOOSE THINGS THAT WOULD BE MINIMAL TO STAFF AS BEST AS WE COULD UNDERSTAND WHETHER THINGS WOULD BE MINIMAL TO STAFF OR NOT. 
          AND THAT WAS A PARTICULAR AREA THAT JEN 
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WAS VERY HELPFUL WITH. 
          UM, SO WE RESTED ON THE FOUR, UH, THE THREE ITEMS OF, UM, THE THREE COMMITTEE MEMBERS EACH, UM, PARTICIPATING IN TAKING CLOSE LOOKS AT PARKS AND SPECIFICALLY THE TREES AND PARKS, SIMILAR TO THE FORMAL, UM, PROGRAM THAT THE PARKS COMMISSION DOES, WHERE EVERY QUARTER THEY LOOK AT THEIR PARK ASSIGNMENTS. 
          'CAUSE THEY DO MAKE ASSIGNMENTS ON THE PARK COMMISSION. 
          AND EVERY QUARTER THEY COME AND THEY REPORT BACK, OH, THE PARK LOOKS LIKE THIS, IT'S GOT THIS GOING ON, IT'S GOT THIS CHALLENGE. 
          YOU KNOW, AND IT'S JUST SUCH A WONDERFUL WAY TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE COVERING EVERYTHING ON A REGULAR BASIS. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND SO, UM, THIS IS, UH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WHEN I SAY THAT THE PARKS COMMISSION DOES IT AS A FORMAL PROGRAM, AFTER TALKING WITH JEN, WE CAN, UM, WE RESTED ON MAKING THIS MORE CASUAL. 
          UM, I'VE ALWAYS PERSONALLY FELT THAT IF YOU'RE ON THE TREE COMMITTEE, UM, PERSONALLY, YOU SHOULD BE SPENDING A MINIMUM OF FIVE HOURS PER WEEK ON TREE ENGAGEMENT. 
          RIGHT? UM, I TAKE IT VERY SERIOUSLY. 
          I KNOW MM-HMM . 
          BUT, UM, IF WE JUST HAD THAT FRAMEWORK WHEN I FIRST GOT ON TREE COMMITTEE, I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING. 
          LIKE, WHAT'S OUR MISSION? WHAT DO WE DO? HOW DO WE TALK TO EACH OTHER? HOW DO WE VOTE ON THINGS? HOW DO WE MOVE THINGS FORWARD? WELL, IF THIS IS SIMPLY A FRAMEWORK, A CASUAL FRAMEWORK THAT EACH OF THE SEVEN TREE COMMITTEE MEMBERS CAN CHOOSE WHAT PARKS THEY WANT TO PAY PARTICULAR ATTENTION TO, AND COMMIT TO VISITING THOSE PARKS ONCE A QUARTER. 
          AND ONCE A QUARTER WHEN WE COME BACK AND AGENDIZE REPORTING BACK ON THE TREES, UM, WE EACH, YOU KNOW, CAN OFFER UP SOMETHING REALLY SPECIFIC THAT PROBABLY BEFORE THAT MEETING. 
          WHEN WE REPORT BACK, WE'VE COMMUNICATED TO STAFF IF, IF THERE'S LIKE A PUBLIC WORKS NEED OR A TREE IN DISTRESS, ET CETERA. 
          BUT IT GIVES US, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A FRAMEWORK FOR THIS IS WHAT MY EYES ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT, THIS IS WHAT IS GONNA BENEFIT FROM ATTENTION. 
          I AM GOING TO DO MY PART TO TRY TO ACTIVATE PROPER RESOURCES FOR PROPER CARE AND INCREASE LIKELIHOOD THAT THESE TREES ARE GOING TO SURVIVE. 
          AND WE DON'T NEED TO PARTNER WITH THE PARK COMMISSION. 
          WE JUST NEED TO KIND OF BO BORROW THEIR FORMAL MODEL, BUT IN A MORE CASUAL WAY, EXECUTE IT. 
          AND, UM, SO THAT'S THE IDEA. 
          NOTHING TO REALLY MORE TO REALLY VOTE ON HERE. 
          YOU RECALL MY EXPERIENCE WHERE I FOUND A TREE THAT HAD BEEN PLANTED AT THE LIBRARY PARK THAT HAD, IT WAS A FIG TREE, AND IT WAS POSTED WHEN IT WAS FIRST PLANTED, BUT THE POST HAD FALLEN DOWN AND THEN IT WAS PULLING DOWN THE TREE AND UPROOTING THE ROOT BALL. 
          AND ME AND MY HUSBAND TOOK THAT, UNTETHERED IT, AND THEN PUT IT ON THE OTHER SIDE, PROPPED IT UP, AND THEN PATTED DOWN THE ROOT BALL, RIGHT? THAT KIND OF THING SHOULD BE CALLED INTO PUBLIC WORKS. 
          I DID IT ON MY OWN. 
          I'M THAT KIND OF A PERSON. 
          I PROBABLY WON'T DO THAT ON MY OWN AGAIN, BUT THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT WE CAN DO THE KIND OF IMPACT. 
          'CAUSE GOD, GOD ONLY KNOWS WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THAT TREE IF NOBODY NOTICED THAT IT WAS IN DISTRESS. 
          AND, UM, SO THAT'S THAT. 
          AND NOW MOVING ON TO THE SECOND ONE, WHICH IS REALLY QUICK. 
          DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THE, THE, THE PARK TREE MONITORING? YEAH. 
          UM, WELL I DO, WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT HAVING CITIZENS, I KNOW, UM, HAVE THEIR PARK OR THEIR TREE THAT THEY MONITOR AND REPORT BACK TO US PERIODICALLY. 
          SO ESPECIALLY KIDS LIKE A SCHOOL CLASS OR SOMETHING. 
          I SPOKE TO SOME TEACHERS AT MCNAIR AND THEY WERE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT. 
          THEY SAID THEIR KIDS HAVE ALREADY BEEN STUDYING THIS BIG TREE IN THE CENTER AND THEY'VE WATCHED IT FOR A YEAR. 
          AND THEY'RE LIKE GOING BY IT AND SAYING, OH, LOOK, LOOK, LOOK, IT'S GOLD. 
          YOU KNOW, AND ALL THESE THINGS THAT THEY'RE DISCOVERING JUST ABOUT THEIR OWN LITTLE TREE. 
          SO IF THEY HAD ANOTHER TREE TO GO, I, YOU KNOW, NEARBY, THEY'LL LEARN MORE. 
          THAT'S ALL. 
          AND ADULTS CAN DO IT TOO. 
          . 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, I FIND THAT REALLY EXCITING. 
          UM, THE SECOND IDEA OUT OF THE THREE WAS A CITY WATER BUILD TREE TIPS INSERT. 
          AND WE WERE SAYING INSERT THOUGH, WE DIDN'T REALLY MEAN INSERT. 
          AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU GET YOUR MONTHLY WATER BILL, AND NOW AT THE BOTTOM THERE'S A LITTLE TEXT BOX, IT'S IN A RECTANGLE AND IT HAS A ROTATING MESSAGE EACH MONTH. 
          IT'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT. 
          LAST MONTH, IF YOU DIDN'T NOTICE, THERE'S AN IMPORTANT MESSAGE THAT IF YOU TAMPER WITH YOUR SMART METER, YOU COULD FACE UP TO $500 FINE. 
          AND IT WAS WRITTEN IN ALL CAPS. 
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HOW EFFECTIVE IS THAT AS A VEHICLE FOR GETTING IN FRONT OF THE EYEBALLS OF EVERY SINGLE PROPERTY OWNER OR WATER ACCOUNT HOLDER MM-HMM . 
          UM, TO COMMUNICATE. 
          SO WE THOUGHT THAT WE COULD PUT IN MESSAGES, YOU KNOW, EVERY SO OFTEN, WHATEVER THE CADENCE IS GONNA BE. 
          I'M NOT SURE WE WOULD HAVE TO WORK WITH, UM, CITY COMMUNICATIONS PERSON JAMISON TO DO THAT. 
          BUT WE HAD REFERRED TO IT AS INSERT AN INSERT. 
          MAYBE THE CITY COULD DO THAT. 
          BUT THAT'S AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT PRODUCTION, UM, IDEA, RIGHT? THAT, THAT REQUIRES PRINTING. 
          THAT REQUIRES, YOU KNOW, A SHEET OF PAPER TO PRINT ON AND THEN TO INSERT INTO THE PAPER BILL. 
          THAT'S NOT QUITE WHAT WE'RE THINKING. 
          BUT IF THE CITY WANTED TO DO THAT AT SOME POINT, THEY CERTAINLY COULD. 
          SO THE IDEA WAS BASICALLY HOW DO WE GET THESE MESSAGES OUT, YOU KNOW, SUCH AS, HEY, THERE'S A NEW TREE ORDINANCE, EVERYBODY, UM, EVEN THOUGH IT'S WATER BILL TREES, WE'RE NOT TALKING NECESSARILY IN THAT MESSAGE ABOUT WATERING TREES, BUT LOOK AT YOUR, IN FRONT OF EVERY EYEBALL AND THEY'RE GONNA KNOW, HEY, THERE'S A NEW ORDINANCE. 
          YOU CHOP DOWN A TREE, IT'S GONNA BE WORSE THAN TAMPERING WITH YOUR SMART METER . 
          UM, SO THAT WAS THAT IDEA. 
          AND ANY COMMENTS? COUNCIL? UH, CITY COUNCIL? NO. 
          I JUST THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. 
           COMMENT. 
          CITY COUNCIL FOR, UM, COMMITTEE. 
          COMMITTEE MEMBER, UH, GENTEEL? NO, NOT AT THIS TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, YOU DID A GREAT JOB. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, SO THE LAST ONE WE SAVED THE BEST FOR LAST. 
          WE'RE SO EXCITED ABOUT THIS. 
          OKAY. 
          TREE ORDINANCE. 
          IT'S A, IT'S A STICK. 
          BOOM, BOOM, BOOM. 
          WE DON'T WANT JUST A STICK. 
          WE'VE BEEN TALKING FOREVER. 
          CARROT. 
          HOW DO WE INSPIRE PEOPLE? UM, HEY, HOW ABOUT CELEBRATING TREES? HOW ABOUT ONCE A YEAR OR TWICE A YEAR? FALL AND SPRING, HAVING, UM, A COMMENDATION TREE COMMENDATION, UM, CONTEST. 
          AND IT'S BASICALLY WHERE WE INVOLVE THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY. 
          GET THE WORD OUT THANKS TO A CITY STAFF LIKE JAMESON, UM, DOING SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS. 
          AND WE WOULD WORK WITH THE, UM, NEWSPAPER TO GET IT IN THE NEWSPAPER ANNOUNCING, UM, THAT VIA AN INTAKE FORM, WHICH DIANE PUT TOGETHER. 
          UM, YOU CAN SUBMIT A NOMINATION FOR A TREE TO BE RECOGNIZED AND COMMENDED. 
          AND WE'VE GOT MULTIPLE CATEGORIES. 
          AND THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT I'LL GET INTO THE CATEGORIES IN A SECOND, THAT PEOPLE WOULDN'T LOOK AROUND WHAT TREES FIT IN THESE CATEGORIES, WHAT TREES ARE WORTHY. 
          MM-HMM. 
          AND, UM, THEN THEY WOULD DO, I WANNA NOMINATE THAT. 
          SO THEY'D HAVE A LITTLE EMOTIONAL CONNECTION TO IT, THEN THEY'D NOMINATE IT. 
          AND, UM, WE'LL GET INTO THE CATEGORIES. 
          'CAUSE THERE'S A WHOLE NOTHER EMOTIONAL FLAVOR INVOLVED WITH NOMINATING PER EACH OF THE CATEGORY TYPES. 
          AND THEN ULTIMATELY THE TREE COMMITTEE WOULD CHOOSE THE, UM, THE TOP TREES IN EACH CATEGORY. 
          AND THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS WOULD GET A PLAQUE, WHETHER IT'S A METAL PLAQUE, WHETHER IT'S A CORRUGATED CARDBOARD SIGN, KIND OF LIKE YOU SEE, UH, CAMPAIGN SIGNS THAT STICKS INTO THE GROUND, BECAUSE I'VE GOT ONE IN MY FRONT YARD THAT SAYS, SAVE THE BEES, NO PESTICIDES, PLEASE. 
          AND THAT'S BEEN LIKE FIVE YEARS AND IT STILL LOOKS BRAND NEW. 
          IT'S PLASTIC, RIGHT? UM, BUT THAT WAY THE, THE PROPERTY OWNER FEELS PROUD AND EVERYBODY WALKING BY THEIR FRONT YARD IS LIKE, HUH? OH YEAH, TREE'S VALUABLE. 
          OH LOOK IT, THEY GOT RECOGNIZED. 
          PETALUMA COMMUNITY REALLY CARES ABOUT THE TREES AND IT GROWS THE CULTURE THAT WAY. 
          IT GROWS THE SENTIMENT AND IT'S STARTS TO ENJOY NETWORK OF FLEX, RIGHT? WHERE MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF THE BENEFITS OF TREES AND START CELEBRATING TREES. 
          SO NOW WE WANTED TO GET INTO THE CATEGORIES OF TREES BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS THE GREAT I THE GREAT IDEA. 
          AND DIANE, DO YOU WANNA DISCUSS THE CATEGORIES? SURE. 
          AND THIS IS FOR DISCUSSION AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST THE IDEA, BUT IT REPRESENTS THE SCOPE OF WHAT ALL COULD BE POPULATING PEOPLE'S MINDS AS THEY START THINKING ABOUT TREES AND CELEBRATING TREES. 
          WELL, ALSO, I WANNA MAKE CLEAR THAT IT ISN'T YOUR TREE THAT HAS TO BE NOMINATED. 
          YOU CAN NOMINATE IN ANYBODY'S TREE, AND THAT'S ALSO A CONNECTION NEIGHBOR TO NEIGHBOR AND, YOU KNOW, START A RELATIONSHIP AND THEY'LL GO, OH, MY TREE IS VALUABLE TOO. 
          RIGHT? SO ANYWAY, THE CATEGORIES THAT WE HAVE CHOSEN ARE , BEST REDWOOD TREE, BEST FLOWERING TREE, BEST EVERGREEN TREE, BEST SHADE TREE, BEST OAK, BEST 
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DECIDUOUS ONLY IN FALL. 
          AND THEN CLIMBING TREE, THE BEST CLIMBING TREE, THE BEST TREE STORY, AND THE BEST KIDS' CHOICE. 
          SO THOSE ARE THE CATEGORIES WE TRIED TO INCLUDE EVERYBODY, OBVIOUSLY. 
          WELL, CAN I ADD SOMETHING I FORGOT TO PUT ON THERE THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED LAST NIGHT? YEAH. 
          UM, SORRY, EVERYBODY. 
          UM, THE, THE TREE STORY IS NOT A TREE, IT'S A STORY. 
          AND, UM, WE FOUND ONE OTHER CITY THAT DOES THAT, AND IT'S THE MOST POPULAR MM-HMM . 
          BECAUSE THE EMOTION, PEOPLE START CONNECTING WITH TREES BEYOND, LIKE, LOOKING AT IT AS AN OBJECT. 
          AND THEY START TELLING A STORY AND THEN MEDIA PICKS UP ON THAT. 
          AND IT'S JUST A WONDERFUL WAY TO EXPRESS THE VALUE OF TREES. 
          AND ONE CATEGORY WE FORGOT ON THERE IS, WHAT IS IT? IT'S MOST CREATIVE SOLUTION. 
          OH, PRUNING A TREE PER OVER WIRES . 
          RIGHT? AND I DON'T HAVE THE VERBIAGE RIGHT THERE, BUT, AND THE IDEA THERE WOULD BE DON'T JUST CHOP DOWN YOUR TREES OR TO BUTCHER THEM, BUT EMPLOY AN ARBORIST. 
          BE CREATIVE. 
          THINK ABOUT SOLUTIONS WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE TO ELIMINATE A TREE, BUT YOU CAN WORK AROUND THE WIRES. 
          AND PACIFIC GROVE DOES THIS SO BEAUTIFULLY. 
          THEY'VE GOT WONDERFUL CANOPY, BUT YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE WELL AWAY FROM THE WIRES. 
          SO SORRY FOR THAT INTERRUPTION. 
          NO, I THINK THAT'S IT. 
          YOU WANT ME TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE FORM? UM, TALK ABOUT MAYBE THE SPOT, I THINK, BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE'RE COVERING. 
          OH YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, THE, THE APPLICATION THAT WE WROTE IS REALLY PRETTY COMMON. 
          I'M NOT GONNA READ IT TO YOU, BUT IT WILL REQUIRE A PHOTO TO BE UPLOADED. 
          SO WE WILL KNOW WHERE THE TREE IS AND THE ADDRESS OF THE TREE. 
          SO WE'LL KNOW WHERE THE TREE IS AND WE CAN VERIFY THAT. 
          YEAH, IT'S, IT'S NICE. 
          AND WE'LL PROBABLY GO OUT THERE AND LOOK AT IT. 
          THE NEXT ONE IS, DID YOU TAKE THIS PHOTO OR PHOTO JUST TO MAKE SURE YOU ANSWER THAT YOU DID IT AND YOU'RE NOT SUBMITTING FOR SOMEONE ELSE. 
          AND, AND THEN WE CAN, LET'S SEND IT TO THE PAPER SEAMLESSLY FOR PR. 
          YEAH. 
          THEN WE CAN SEND IT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          YOU KNOW, ONCE THE COMMENDATIONS HAVE BEEN GIVEN OUT, IT WILL BE NEWSWORTHY. 
          I HAVE, IF I HAVE FAITH IN THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S ALL  POINT OUT THAT, THAT DETAIL I THINK IS REALLY, SHOWS THE LEVEL OF THINKING THAT DIANE'S GONE THROUGH TO, TO SEE, LIKE, WE COLLECT THIS INFORMATION AND WE'VE GOT IT BUTTONED UP, IT'S READY TO GO OUT TO THE PRESS. 
          RIGHT? AND SO THERE ARE NO HICCUPS DOWN THE ROAD WITH, YOU KNOW, PUBLISHING THEIR PICTURE, RIGHT? 'CAUSE WE GET THEIR CONSENT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY SMART. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          SO, SO THAT'S IT. 
          AND SO WE WERE HOPING THAT TODAY THAT WE COULD GET SOME FEEDBACK ON ALL THREE IDEAS AND MAYBE VOTE TO LIKE SAY, OH, WE LIKE THESE IDEAS. 
          AND NOT THAT THEY'RE, WE'RE GONNA DO THESE IDEAS NECESSARILY, BUT THAT YOU LIKE IT PROVIDE FEEDBACK AND THEN ALSO KIND OF, UM, SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU CAN GO OUT AND CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT THIS WITH THE COMMUNITY. 
          YOU KNOW, YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THINGS ABOUT TREES WITH THE COMMUNITY, NOT IN TERMS OF A FORMAL PROGRAM, BUT JUST THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN BE MORE PRO. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE TO DO THAT PART BECAUSE REMEMBER CHAIR RASEN WITH OUR COMMUNITY OUTREACH AD HOC, WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT. 
          AND THIS TIME WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT. 
          BUT I'M THINKING FOR PEOPLE, LIKE THE PERSON THAT JUST CHOPPED DOWN THEIR REDWOOD FOR GOOD REASONS, FOR BAD REASONS, I DON'T KNOW. 
          BUT TO GO TALK TO THEM, TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS GOING THROUGH THEIR MIND AND WHAT THEIR DECISION MAKING PROCESS WAS, I THINK WOULD BE REALLY VALUABLE. 
          AND I'D LIKE TO HAVE US HAVE PERMISSION FROM THE REST OF THE TAC TO DO THAT KIND OF THING SPECIFICALLY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YEAH. 
          WELL, FANTASTIC PRESENTATION. 
          UM, I WILL LOOK TO THE COMMITTEE FOR COMMENTS. 
          I WILL JUST CLARIFY WITH THAT LAST ITEM, GOING TO TALK TO PEOPLE ALMOST FOLLOWING UP ON TREE REMOVALS. 
          THAT WAS SOMETHING I HAD IN MY BRAIN FOR PROTECT IS LIKE, HEY, IS THERE A WAY FOR PROTECT, TO REVIEW POTENTIALLY, OR GET A SUMMARY OF REMOVAL PERMITS WE'VE ISSUED, YOU KNOW, WHY TREES HAVE COME DOWN AS, AS THOSE ARE BEING TRACKED BY PUBLIC WORKS. 
          THAT SEEMS LIKE A GREAT PROTECT THING. 
          UM, OBVIOUSLY SOME OF THESE COULD TOUCH INTO ALL THESE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES. 
          I THINK YOU GUYS HAD A LOT OF COMMUNICATION STUFF, WHICH IS GREAT. 
          UM, BUT I WILL SAVE MY COMMENTS. 
          I'LL LOOK TO THE COMMITTEE, UH, COMMENTS ON THE IDEAS SCOPE, UH, OR JUST COMMENTS ON THOUGHTS THAT YOU HAVE ABOUT THE PRESENTATION AND, AND THE DIRECTION THAT, THAT THEY'RE GOING. 
          MARIANNE, UM, GREAT PRESENTATION. 
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THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS PUT INTO THAT. 
          UM, I WOULD LIKE TO DEVELOP THE CATEGORIES FOR THE TREES WITH MORE INFORMATION FOR PEOPLE ABOUT SPECIFICALLY WHAT QUALIFIES, LIKE YOU SAID, BEST OAK TREE. 
          WHAT DOES THAT MEAN EXACTLY? LIKE WHAT ARE SO THINGS THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR IN THOSE EXA THE TREES THAT WE'RE GONNA BASICALLY MAKE EXAMPLES FOR THE COMMUNITY. 
          WHY IS THIS THE BEST EXAMPLE OF THIS TREE KIND OF THING. 
          AND ALSO HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY NEED TO DO IF THEY WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM AND THEY WANT THEIR TREE TO HAVE A GOOD CHANCE OF  WINNING. 
          UM, AND THEN THE OTHER PART I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS, UM, CAN WE INCLUDE RECOGNITION FOR ARBORISTS AND TREE WORKERS WHO DO FOLLOW THE PROPER PRUNING METHODS AND DO, UH, WORK ON TREES THE WAY THAT WE WANT TREES TO BE WORKED ON IN THE CITY AND MAKE THAT A THING THAT, UM, COMPANIES WANT TO HAVE AS PART OF THEIR, YOU KNOW, THEIR ADVERTISING OR WHEN THEY LIST THEIR QUALIFICATIONS, YOU KNOW, RECOGNITION FROM THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE IN PETAL, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. 
          THAT'S IT. 
          THANK YOU MARYAM FOR THOSE COMMENTS. 
          AND NOT TO BUT IN, BUT I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT POTENTIAL LIKE UHOR NOT ENDORSEMENT, BUT KIND OF LIKE A CHECK MARK FOR DIFFERENT COMPANIES TO SAY, HEY, YOU HAVE SHOWN THAT YOU CAN PRUNE CORRECTLY. 
          YOU'VE AGREED TO ADOPT THESE METHODS. 
          AND I FORGET THERE WAS SOMETHING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER WE'RE DOING IT WITH COMMERCIAL OR PRIVATE COMPANIES, WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT THE CITY, LIKE ENDORSING THEM OR, UM, JEN, DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT? ANYTHING THAT WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT? BECAUSE I, I LOVE THAT IDEA AND I HONESTLY, I WOULD LOVE PEOPLE TO KNOW WHO TO GO TO. 
          SO WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE HIRING FOLKS THAT MIGHT NOT DO IT THE RIGHT WAY. 
          UM, AND, AND I HATE TO THROW YOU INTO THAT, JEN, 'CAUSE I KNOW, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ALL A LITTLE BIT NEW, BUT YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT, ON ENGAGING PRIVATE COMPANIES, GIVING THEM SOME KIND OF RECOGNITION THAT THEY ARE DOING THE THINGS, THE WAY THAT PETALUMA PRESCRIBES BOTH IN POLICY AND IN SPIRIT AND THAT KIND OF THING. 
          RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU CHAIR KUAN. 
          AND I, I THINK, UH, WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THIS IDEA IS SOMETHING WE'VE MENTIONED IS, UH, I CAN WORK WITH THE PROTECT AD HOC AND LOOK WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. 
          SO WHEN WE DO COME BACK TO THE TAC, WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT. 
          ARE WE CAPABLE OF DOING THIS? WHAT ARE THE RESTRICTIONS, PARAMETERS AROUND THAT? THAT WAY WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD, REALLY GOOD INFORMATION TO GIVE FEEDBACK ON, UM, AT OUR NEXT MEETING. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SAY. 
          YEAH, THERE IS DEFINITELY SOME CAUTION ABOUT THE TREE ADVISORY ON BEHALF OF THE CITY RECOMMENDING. 
          SO WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING THE LEGAL ADVICE. 
          YEAH, THANKS FOR THAT. 
          THANKS FOR THAT COMMENT. 
          MARIANNE. 
          GREAT COMMENTS TO FOLLOW UP. 
          UM, STEPHANIE, BILL, KEITH, ANYONE? UH, STEPHANIE, PLEASE. 
          YEAH, I, I, SADLY I KNOW SOMEONE WHO'S AN ARBORIST AND HAS A COMPANY WHO, UM, SAYS THAT HE'S TOLD OFTEN THAT HE'S TOO EXPENSIVE WHEN HE GIVES A BID FOR GARDENING OR, OR TAKING, DOING WORK FOR PEOPLE THINGS THE RIGHT WAY. 
          YEAH. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I'M, YEAH, IT'S, IT'S REALLY TOO BAD. 
          HE PROBABLY HAS INSURANCE AND HE IS BONDED AND LICENSED TOO. 
          AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS COST MONEY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, UM, BUT ANYWAY, I I, I AM ALSO INCREDIBLY IN ADMIRATION OF WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE AND I DO HAVE, I GOT VERY INTERESTED IN, AND I'VE BEEN INVOLVED A LOT WITH RELIEF AND THE ASPECT OF, OF CARING FOR TREES ONCE THEY'RE PLANTED. 
          AND I'VE REALIZED THAT THAT'S ABSOLUTELY CRUCIAL. 
          IT'S PROBABLY, IT'S ABSOLUTELY AS MOST IMPORTANT AS, AS PLANTING THE TREE ITSELF. 
          SO I WENT OUT, I'M ON AN AD HOC PRUNING COMMITTEE AND GOT TUTORED BY BEN, AND I NOW SEE EVERYTHING DIFFERENTLY. 
           JUST, AND I'M VERY INTERESTED IN THAT IDEA OF MONITORING PARKS AND ASSIGNING PEOPLE AT A PARK TO REPORT UPON. 
          I THINK THAT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. 
          AND I LEARNED SO MUCH FROM THAT SESSION, WHICH IS THAT EVEN ON CITY PROPERTY, SOMETIMES THE MAINTENANCE CREWS JUST KIND OF MASSACRE TREES AND BUSHES THAT THEY WERE HOPING WOULD BE LEFT ALONE. 
          IT'S VERY, IT'S, IT'S NOT OUT OF ANY MALICIOUSNESS, BUT, UM, THAT, SEE, I, I ALSO WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE AN A, AN AD HOC COMMITTEE THAT COULD GO AROUND AND PRUNE CITY TREES TOO. 
          LIKE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE'S TREES THAT, WELL THEY'RE STREET TREES AND 
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THEY'RE REALLY, TECHNICALLY, I GUESS THEY'RE NOT STREET TREES BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE OWNED BY THE PERSON IN THE HOUSE. 
          SO YOU'D HAVE TO KNOCK ON THEIR DOOR, I GUESS TO ASK THEM TO PRUNE THE TREE. 
          BUT YOU CAN, OKAY. 
          SO I HAVE A LOT OF IDEAS, BUT I READ SUSAN KIRK'S, UH, EMAIL AND THAT WAS SUCH A GOOD QUESTION. 
          HER QUESTION TO US ABOUT, UM, ASKING ABOUT THE TREES PLANTED BY RELIEF. 
          AND THE REASON THAT SEGUES SO WELL INTO THIS IS THAT WHEN I WENT OUT TO SUNRISE PARK AND WAS WITH WENDY FOSTER, SHE WAS LIKE A WALKING ENCYCLOPEDIA ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE TREES. 
          AND THEY, SHE REMEMBERED THE TREES THAT HAD BEEN PLANTED BY RELIEF YEARS AGO. 
          AND WE DID, WE DID. 
          THEY HAD TO RETAKE TREES THAT WERE BIG OAK TREES THAT WERE JUST FALLING DOWN. 
          THEY'D GROWN, GROWN UP TOO STRAIGHT AND NEEDED TO BE COMPLETELY RE RESTOCKED. 
          AND WE DID SO MUCH WORK ON THE TREES THAT I REALIZED THAT THAT'S, THAT'S JUST SO CRUCIAL AND THAT I FEEL LIKE THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE SHOULD DO AND SOMEHOW ENGENDER THAT. 
          JUST TO SEGUE TO THIS, JUST QUICKLY, I WAS IN LA JUST A FEW DAYS AGO AND MY NIECE HAD JUST BOUGHT A, A HOUSE. 
          OKAY, IT'S SANTA MONICA. 
          AND I WAS ASKING HER ABOUT THE INCREDIBLE TREES ON THEIR STREET THAT ARE PRUNING SO WELL, THEY'RE TOWERING TREES THAT, UM, I SAID, WHO, WHO SPENDS THE MONEY ON THAT? AND SHE SAID, THE CITY COMES EVERY FEW MONTHS, SHE ASKS THE NEIGHBORS ABOUT IT AND THE CITY HAS ARBORISTS THAT COME EVERY FEW MONTHS AND TRIM THOSE TREES. 
          SO THAT MADE ME FEEL SAD THAT , BECAUSE THAT'S, THEY MUST HAVE A BUDGET, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT PETALUMA, IT'S SANTA MONICA. 
          BUT THAT'S WHAT REALLY NEEDS TO HAPPEN, I THINK, TO, TO, TO KIND OF NURTURE WHAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE. 
          SO ANYWAY, AND THE QUESTION I WOULD HAVE ABOUT THE HISTORY OF HOW MANY TREES HAVE SURVIVED BY RELIEF IS THAT'S PROBABLY AN ENORMOUS CATALOGING JOB. 
          BUT WENDY HAD ASKED ME TO DO THAT ON AT SUNRISE PARK AS WELL. 
          AND I, I'M NOT, I DON'T KNOW WHICH TREES WERE PLANTED BY RELIEF, BUT SHE HAS THE KNOWLEDGE OF THAT. 
          SO THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE SOMETHING THAT WE, HER RESOURCE WE COULD USE TO GET A PERSPECTIVE ON THAT. 
          SO YEAH, I WAS TRYING TO CONTAIN MYSELF, STEPHANIE, 'CAUSE I'VE THOUGHT A LOT ABOUT THIS AS WELL. 
          SO JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON THAT AND JUST THINKING ABOUT THIS CONCEPT, UM, ABOUT TAKING CARE OF TREES ONCE THEY'RE PLANTED, UH, I THINK THE PIECE ABOUT PRUNING ON PRIVATE PROPERTY GETS INTO A LOT OF ISSUES WITH LIKE INSURANCE AND LIABILITY AND THAT'S A TOUGH ONE. 
          I THINK WHAT'S VERY ACHIEVABLE IS WORKING WITH RELIEF TO HAVE SOME MAYBE MEMBERS OF TAC AND I'M THINKING THE GROW AD HOC, WHICH YOU HAPPEN TO BE ON. 
          UM, AN IDEA FOR THE GROW AD HOC COULD BE TO REACH OUT TOLE AND SAY, HEY, WE COULD BE AN, LIKE AN EXTENSION OF YOUR PLANTING TEAM IF YOU HAVE A LIST OF TREES THAT YOU'VE PLANTED OR AREAS IN PARTICULAR THAT OUR TEAM CAN FOLLOW UP WITH 90 DAYS LATER, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE TO CHECK ON THEM. 
          THAT KIND OF GOES RIGHT IN LINE WITH GROWING OUR CANOPY. 
          THAT YOU'RE MAKING SURE THAT THESE TREES, THAT THEY'RE DOING ALL THIS WORK TO PLANT SURVIVE. 
          OR AT LEAST SEEING IF, IF THEY'RE NOT, WHAT ARE THE ISSUES CROPPING UP? AND IT MIGHT BE A WAY WHERE OUR CITY THROUGH THIS VOLUNTEER BODY KIND OF FEEDS BACK AND HELPS RELIEF. 
          UM, SO I REALLY LIKE THAT AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD DEFINITELY BE IN THE UMBRELLA OF KIND OF THE GROW TEAM. 
          I WOULD JUST ADD THAT I THINK THAT IT'S A HUGE ASK, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THAT SURE, BECAUSE BECAUSE I DON'T, I'M NOT SURE HOW I WOULD, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR HER. 
          I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH, IF YOU WERE CATALOGING AND TRACKING THOSE 3000 TREES, THAT WOULD BE A HUGE JOB, YOU KNOW? AND EVEN GOING BACK AND TRYING TO CHECK ON THEM INDIVIDUALLY AND SHE GAVE ME A LIST OF THINGS I COULD GO OUT AND CHECK ON, BUT I DIDN'T HAVE THE TIME TO DO IT. 
          AND SHE DIDN'T, I MEAN SHE, TODAY WE'RE, WE'RE PRUNING THE OTTIS BUSHES OVER AT, UM, THE HIGH SCHOOL PETALUMA HIGH SCHOOL THAT HAD BEEN TOPPED MISTAKENLY BY MAINTENANCE AND WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THEM GROW INTO TREES. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHAT I'M GONNA BE DOING AT FIVE 30. 
          SO SHE ONE WENDY'S ALL OVER THE PLACE, BUT WITH THESE KIND OF EXTRAORDINARY ASKS, I THINK SO. 
          WELL THAT'S A GREAT POINT. 
          AND I THINK A LOT OF THIS, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE FORM THESE AD HOCS, IT IS AN ASK OF THE TEAM HERE. 
          I MEAN, TARYN THREW 
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OUT WHAT MIGHT BE A WILD NUMBER OF FIVE HOURS A WEEK WHERE IT COULD, BUT MAYBE THAT IS THE LEVEL OF COMMITMENT THAT WE CAN STRIVE FOR. 
          UM, BUT I THINK, I THINK YOUR QUESTION MAY BE WORTH ASKING, YOU ALREADY HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH RELIEF. 
          THE MEMBERS OF GROW ARE ALSO, UH, KEITH BILL, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN KIND OF WORK WITH YOUR TEAM TO LIKE, HOW DO WE ASK THIS OF RELIEF? WHAT IS SOMETHING ACHIEVABLE? UH, IF IT'S, HEY, THIS PARK WAS PLANTED HALF A YEAR AGO, CAN YOU JUST CHECK ON IT? 'CAUSE THERE MAY BE SOME VIRTUE IN JUST LITERALLY DOING LIKE DASHBOARD CHECKS ON AREAS TO SEE IF THE TREES LOOK OKAY OR NOT, OF THAT KIND OF SURVEY. 
          IF THERE'S AN ISSUE, THEN YOU CAN KIND OF GET AT, AND MAYBE, AND MAYBE IT STARTS AS JUST A REPORTING THING. 
          LIKE, HEY, WE TOOK 30 MINUTES THIS WEEK, WENT AND DID A DASHBOARD SURVEY OF SOME AREAS. 
          BUT, UM, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA TO EXPLORE, NOT TO PUT IT ON THE GROW PLATE, BUT I THINK YOU'RE, YOU'RE RAISING A REALLY GOOD POINT. 
          'CAUSE I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT. 
          I SAW SUE KIRK'S EMAIL, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS REALLY, UM, INSIGHTFUL AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. 
          AND I THINK IF THERE'S A WAY FOR US TO HELP WITH THAT, THAT'S A GREAT, A GREAT ADD. 
          WOULD IT EVER MAKE SENSE TO FOLD THAT INTO THE PARK MONITORING PROGRAM? LIKE, OKAY, WE MONITOR OUR PARKS, UM, QUARTERLY FOUR TIMES A YEAR, BUT MAYBE ONE OF THOSE FOUR, WE ONLY DO IT THREE TIMES A YEAR, BUT THE FOURTH TIME WE DIVIDE UP THE RELIEF TREES, WHAT'S A THOUSAND DIVIDED BY SEVEN? I DON'T KNOW. 
          UM, A COUPLE HUNDRED TREES. 
          AND MAYBE THAT'S A LOT, BUT WE COULD DO A CHUNK OF IT THAT WAY. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD EVER MAKE SENSE. 
          IT DEPENDS ON WHERE ALL THE TREES WERE PUT IN. 
          HOW CONCENTRATED, RIGHT. 
          HOW DISTRIBUTED. 
          GOOD IDEA. 
          GOOD IDEA. 
          WELL THAT'S A GREAT DISCUSSION POINT. 
          AGAIN, I WILL LOOK TO, I THINK BILL, KEITH, ANYONE ELSE WHO HAS FEEDBACK ON THESE IDEAS, ANYTHING THAT THE PROTECT TEAM HAS PRESENTED, BILL? YES. 
          UH, WELL DONE PROTECT TEAM AT PROTECT TEAM. 
          UH, GREAT START. 
          AND UM, I, YEAH, I AGREE THAT, UH, YEP, THERE'S MORE WE CAN DO IN THE PARKS WITH EXTRA SET OF EYES. 
          UH, LOVE THE IDEA. 
          EDUCATION IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT PART OF THIS FOR OUR COMMUNITY. 
          SO THROUGH THE MAILERS NEXT DOOR, WHATEVER WAY WE CAN GET THE MESSAGES OUT THERE, BUT YEAH, CERTAINLY, UM, UH, WATER BILL. 
          RIGHT. 
          THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN LASTLY, I LOVE THE CARROT APPROACH. 
          YEAH. 
          GET GETTING SOME KUDOS OUT THERE FOR GREAT TREES. 
          I ALSO THINK, AND I THINK YOU ALL TOUCHED ON IT WITH SOME OF THOSE AWARDS, BUT REALLY GIVING OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS PROPS FOR GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND TO PROTECT A CERTAIN TREE, RIGHT? AND TO LIKE WHERE THEY'RE TAKING A SIDEWALK THAT'S GOTTEN ALL SORTS OF BUMPS AND, UH, BROKEN CONCRETE AND THEY'RE WORKING WITH IT TO SAVE THE TREE WOULD BE AN EXAMPLE. 
          OR THE CURB OR THE YEAH. 
          UM, THE DRIVEWAY, WHATEVER IT IS. 
          UH, AND, UH, YEAH, I THINK YEAH, THE MORE WE CAN LIKE REALLY PROP UP THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE DOING THAT, GOING THE EXTRA MILE TO PROTECT THE TREES, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'LL, IT'LL, UM, BUILD ON ITSELF. 
          SO YEAH. 
          THAT'S A GOOD ONE. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GREAT FEEDBACK. 
          BILL. 
          UH, KEITH, IF YOU HAVE THE INPUT. 
          YEAH, THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          AND AGAIN, I'M SUPPOSED TO SAY THIS EVERY TIME I TALK, SO I'M, I'M HOPING TO BE THERE, LIVE IN PERSON THREE DIMENSIONALLY THE NEXT TIME. 
          SO I DON'T HAVE TO INTRODUCE MYSELF BY SAYING I'M ALONE, UM, AND EVERYTHING. 
          AND DARREN, I WILL BE AT THE PLAN COMMISSION TOMORROW. 
          I NOW HAVE WHAT THEY CALL A MOBILITY DEVICE. 
          I CALL IT A WHEELCHAIR, BUT THEY CALL IT A MOBILITY DEVICE. 
          SO I WILL BE THERE, UM, FROM NOW ON AT THE TREE, UH, COMMITTEE. 
          UM, I REALLY LIKE PROTECTS AD HOC, MULTI-PRONG APPROACH. 
          I, I THOUGHT IT WAS PRETTY INNOVATIVE. 
          UM, I REALLY LIKE IT INCORPORATING THE WATER BILLS, JUST GENERAL INFORMATION TYPE OF, UM, APPROACH. 
          BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT I REALLY LIKE TOO IS WHAT I, I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THERE JUST NOW, THAT'S SORT OF CARROT APPROACH WITH THE AWARD SYSTEM AND EVERYTHING. 
          AND I WOULD JUST ADD TO THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'D BE GREAT IF WE COULD GET, AND, AND MAYBE OUR STAFF PERSON CAN HELP THIS OR MAYBE OTHER PEOPLE CAN HELP ON THIS. 
          IF WE CAN GET STORIES LIKE IN THE PRESS OR WHEN PETAL CITY A PETALUMA SENDS OUT, YOU KNOW, THOSE COMMUNITY REPORTS ON A WEEKLY OR BIWEEKLY BASIS, MONTHLY, WHATEVER THEY ARE, IF WE COULD ALSO GET TREE STUFF IN THAT ON A REGULAR BASIS, ESPECIALLY THESE AWARD THINGS, I THINK THAT WOULD JUST BE ANYTHING WE CAN DO. 
          YOU KNOW, BRANDING IS SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO JUST CONTINUE CONTINUALLY REPEAT. 
          AND SO I THINK IT WOULD JUST BE FANTASTIC TO DO THAT. 
          AND I WILL ADD THAT, AND I WON'T DATE, I WON'T SAY THIS IN MY CLOSING STUFF LATER ON THERE, BUT I ATTENDED THE RELIEF ANNUAL BOARD MEETING AND THEIR FIFTH ANNIVERSARY, UH, EVENT LAST WEEK. 
          AND IT WAS PHENOMENAL. 
          AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING, AND THEY'VE GOT GREAT MAPPING OF 
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THE LAST FEW YEARS OF WHERE THEY PUT ALL THESE TREES. 
          AND I KNOW WENDY DOES AN INCREDIBLY JOB, GREAT JOB WITH THAT ORGANIZATION. 
          UM, AND THEY'RE ALSO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE IN NEED OF SOME FUNDING. 
          SO HOPEFULLY, UM, WE CAN ALSO BE ADVOCATES, UM, BOTH AROUND TOWN AS WELL AS WITH THE CITY TO HELP FUND RELIEF. 
          'CAUSE IT'S AN AMAZING, IT'S AN AMAZING GROUP IN TOWN. 
          YES, ABSOLUTELY. 
          UH, GREAT POINTS AND YES, ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO SUPPORT RELIEF, WHETHER IT'S WITH OUR, OUR FREE LABOR OR OUR ADVOCACY, I, I THINK IS, IS TIME AND AND RESOURCE WELL SPENT. 
          UH, SO GREAT FEEDBACK, KEITH. 
          I WILL LOOK TO ANY OTHER MEMBERS WITH OTHER THOUGHTS. 
          UM, AND ACTUALLY BEFORE I DO SOMETHING THAT I WAS THINKING, WHILE WE'RE THROWING OUT THESE GREAT IDEAS, UH, I'LL LOOK TO STAFF, EITHER THE CLERK OR JEN, WE'VE THROWN OUT A LOT OF GOOD IDEAS OF POTENTIAL PROGRAMS AND I'M WONDERING THE BEST WAY WE CAN TRACK THIS ON SOME TABLE THINKING OF LIKE BROWN ACT AND I DON'T WANT TO GET ANYONE IN TROUBLE, BUT HAVING A SHARED TABLE OF ALL THE IDEAS WE'VE THOUGHT OF AND THAT WAY AS OUR AD HOCS DISPERSE OR EVEN AT MEETINGS, IF SOMEONE HASN'T MAYBE TAKEN AN IDEA YET, A TEAM CAN RAISE THEIR HAND FOR IT. 
          IS THAT SOMETHING YOU GUYS CAN TRACK AFTER? SHOULD I, I'M ON THE ENGAGE TEAM. 
          MAYBE I SHOULD BE DOING THAT, STARTING LISTENING TO THE TRANSCRIPT OR TAKING THE TRANSCRIPT AND WRITING A TABLE OF IDEAS. 
          MAYBE. 
          UM, JEN, DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT? AND, AND, AND A WAY WE CAN SHARE IT WITHOUT VIOLATING BROWN ACT, RIGHT? SO IN ORDER TO NOT VIOLATE THE BROWN ACT, WE HAVE TO BRING IT AT, BRING IT TO THIS PUBLIC FORUM. 
          SO WHATEVER WE POST FOR NEXT TIME, WHAT WE CAN DO IS, AS I'M WORKING WITH EACH AD HOC, UM, INDIVIDUALLY, WE, I CAN DEFINITELY TRACK THAT AND WE CAN SUBMIT IT AS AN ATTACHMENT TO OUR UPDATES SO THAT EVERYONE CAN SEE, UH, WHAT WE'VE HEARD. 
          AND THAT WAY YOU, YOU HAVE THAT CAPABILITY AND IT IS BROUGHT FORWARD IN A PUBLIC FORUM. 
          UM, IF, IF THAT WORKS FOR YOU, AND I'LL TURN TO OUR CLERK TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL IDEAS OR THOUGHTS OR CONCERNS. 
          THAT SOUNDS LIKE THE RIGHT PLAN TO ME. 
          IT WOULD BE LEGAL THAT WOULD NEED TO GIVE US THE THUMBS UP. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH, I LIKE THAT BECAUSE THAT REMINDS ME OF, UM, THE CITY COUNCIL WHEN THEY GO THROUGH THEIR PRIORITY SETTING, WHICH IS DIFFERENT THESE DAYS THAN IT USED TO BE. 
          IT USED TO BE, UM, A PRETTY FORMAL PLAN, RIGHT. 
          UM, AND WHATEVER THE CITY COMMITTED TO DO, UM, THEY HAD TO DO IT. 
          UM, AND IT, BECAUSE THE TOP 10 PRIORITIES SELECTED BY THE COUNCIL ALL ROSE TO THE TOP AND THEY THINK THEY HAD DEADLINES ON THEM. 
          AND THEN EVERYTHING THAT DIDN'T RISE TO THE TOP REMAINED THERE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF FOR THE RECORD AND MAYBE FOR CONSIDERATION THE FOLLOWING YEAR. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER THAT I DOWNLOADED IT AND THEN I REF KEPT REFERRING TO IT. 
          UM, ADVOCATING FOR A TREE ORDINANCE BACK BEFORE IT WAS, UH, A PRIORITY AND THEN IT GOT TO BE A PRIORITY AND THEN HERE WE ARE TODAY. 
          SO, UM, THAT KIND OF A DOCUMENT CAN HAVE A LONG LIFE AND PRESERVE, UM, BE INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE, RIGHT FOR THE NEXT TACK WHEN WE GET OUR NEW MEMBERS UP HERE. 
          I LIKE IT. 
          NO, THAT'S A GREAT POINT. 
          AND THAT'S THE ONE THING I WISH WE DID MORE SOMETIMES AT ESPECIALLY COMMITTEE MEETINGS, BUT EVEN COUNCIL MEETINGS IS WRITING THINGS DOWN SO WE KNOW THE GREAT IDEAS THAT HAVE COME FORWARD. 
          WE KNOW IF ANY ACTION'S BEEN TAKEN ON THEM. 
          SO THE MORE WE CAN DO THAT I THINK IS FANTASTIC. 
          UM, ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON EITHER THE PROTECT ITEMS? YOU KNOW, I, I KNOW WE'VE GOT UPDATES FROM GROW AND ENGAGE, BUT I THOUGHT TO MAYBE GIVE OURSELVES A BEAT AND ASK IF WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          UH, I KNOW WE DO HAVE, EVEN IN THE AUDIENCE IF YOU WANT TO GIVE COMMENT AT THIS POINT 'CAUSE WE'VE THROWN OUT IDEAS, UM, BEFORE WE GET INTO OUR OTHER AD HOCS. 
          UM, BUT I'LL LOOK TO COMMITTEE MEMBERS IF ANYONE HAS ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY OR IF WE TAKE A BEAT AND UH, INVITE PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL I THINK, LIKE, I THINK THIS WILL BE LIKE ALMOST A MIDWAY POINT SOME OF OUR DISCUSSION. 
          SO I WILL OPEN IT UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM. 
          UH, IF YOU DO HAVE INTEREST IN, IN SAYING A PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU CAN JUST COME TO THE FRONT AND STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, UH, AND HAVE YOUR THREE MINUTES, BUT IF NOT, THEN, UM, THAT'S TOTALLY FINE AS WELL. 
          SO, UH, AND I'LL SAY FOR THE RECORD, THIS IS EVA O'ROURKE, UH, GIVING PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM FOR OUR AD HOC AND THESE DIFFERENT INITIATIVE IDEAS. 
          EVE, PLEASE THANK YOU. 
          UM, IT'S JUST, UM, A STATEMENT OF SUPPORT. 
          YOU PEOPLE ARE SO WONDERFUL. 
          I, I CAN'T BELIEVE IT. 
          YOU'VE GOT THE HEART, YOU GOT SOMETHING IN HERE, YOU GOT EXPERIENCE, YOU WALK AROUND, YOU GOT EYES. 
          IT'S AMAZING. 
          AND I'M, I'M JUST SO HAPPY TO BE HERE. 
          I'D, I'D BE HERE EVERY DAY IF YOU WERE HERE. 
          SO I'LL JUST SAY THAT. 
          AND THE BOOK THAT I'M CIRCULATING, I, I HOPE A FEW PEOPLE GOT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          ANOTHER TIME. 
          OKAY, 
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THANK YOU. 
          YES, I HAVE A BOOK OF A GREAT ART FESTIVAL THAT WAS PUT ON THAT'S MUCH IN THE VEIN OF SOME OF THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT OF LIKE THE CARROT AND CELEBRATING PEOPLE WITH TREES AND ART. 
          UH, SO I'LL MAKE SURE TO BRING THAT TO OUR NEXT MEETING EVE, NOT ONLY SO YOU CAN GET YOUR COPY BACK TO MAKE SURE WE PASS IT AROUND AGAIN. 
          UH, WITH THAT I WILL ASK OUR CLERK IF WE HAD ANY ON THIS ITEM OF THE AD HOC DISCUSSIONS, IF WE HAD ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING, NO PUBLIC COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING FOR THIS ITEM. 
          OKAY, FANTASTIC. 
          WELL, WITH THAT THEN I WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT. 
          AND I WILL NOW MOVE US TOWARD THE TWO GROUPS THAT NE DIDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE FORMAL PRESENTATIONS, BUT I WILL OPEN IT UP TO FIRST OUR GROW AD HOC, WHICH WOULD BE PLANNING COMMITTEE LIAISON, KEITH HILT, VICE CHAIR, BILL COOVER, AND COMMITTEE MEMBER STEPHANIE SANCHEZ. 
          IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY ITEMS OR IDEAS. 
          AND, AND I'LL JUST PREFACE BY SAYING, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A CHANCE, WHILE WE'VE GOT ALL OF YOUR TEAM MEMBERS HERE, IF THERE ARE ANY IDEAS YOU WANNA PUT FORWARD, ANY ACTIONS YOU WANNA START THE BALL ROLLING ON NOW OR ANY COMMENTARY, UM, PLEASE THE FLOOR IS YOURS TO, TO EITHER GIVE US UPDATES OR START WITH SOME IDEAS. 
          WELL, I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY BECAUSE WE DIDN'T MEET. 
          UM, BUT I, I, I'M JUST GRATEFUL FOR THE FRAMEWORK THAT WAS PROVIDED TO US. 
          AND I FEEL LIKE I HAVE BEEN, UM, REALLY LOOKING INTO, I, I THINK, I THINK IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, THE, THE WANT OF CARING FOR TREES IS JUST SO OBVIOUS THAT IT IS, HAS JUST REALLY STARTED TO CONSUME ME. 
          I'VE BEEN TRYING TO THINK OF THINGS LIKE, COULD WE PUT FLYERS OUT OR, YOU KNOW, ALERT PEOPLE IN THEIR, IN INDIVIDUALS ABOUT SPECIFIC TREES THEY HAVE. 
          UM, UM, BUT IT JUST SEEMS, I DON'T KNOW, GETTING, SENDING OUT NOTICES ON A WATER BILL SEEMS A LOT MORE REALISTIC. 
          UM, SO I'M, I'M KIND OF STUMPED ABOUT HOW TO, HOW TO MAKE THAT REAL OTHER THAN, AND I'M THINKING EVEN OF KNOCKING ON DOORS AND TALKING TO PEOPLE WHO I ACTUALLY HAVE DONE IT AND I FAILED SO FAR, . 
          SO SOMEBODY TOOK A HUGE TREE ON THEIR ON PAY, RAN AND SHOPPED IT ALL TO HELL. 
          IT WAS AROUND THE, UH, THE WIRES AND SHE'S SOMEBODY I'VE BEEN CULTIVATING FOR A LONG TIME. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE PEOPLE, THEY'RE WELL-MEANING PEOPLE EVEN WHEN YOU TALK TO THEM AND THEN THEY TURN AROUND AND SAY SOMEBODY THEY KNOW KNOWS HOW TO CUT A TREE, UH, PROPERLY AND THEN IT'S BUTCHERED. 
          SO ANYWAY, I'M NOT GONNA GO ON ABOUT THAT, BUT I'M, I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE IDEA OF MONITORING CERTAIN PLACES, LIKE CERTAIN, UM, AREAS AND THEN REPORT AND THEN MAKING A REPORT ON THOSE AND I'LL, I'LL PASS IT ON TO BUILD. 
          YEAH, UNFORTUNATELY I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF GREAT NEW IDEAS HERE, BUT LOOK FORWARD TO BRAINSTORMING WITH THE TEAM. 
          AND THEN, YEAH, I THINK RELIEF IS GONNA BE A CRITICAL PARTNER HERE. 
          AND I KNOW STEPHANIE, YOU'VE WORKED A LOT WITH THEM AND THEY'VE GONE OUT AND ACTUALLY GROWN OUR CANOPY BY PLANNING THESE THOUSANDS OF TREES. 
          SO, UM, FIGURING OUT HOW TO JUMPSTART MORE OF THOSE INITIATIVES, REPOPULATING OUR STREET TREES, THOSE ARE EXCITING THINGS THAT I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING ON. 
          GREAT. 
          UH, KEITH, ANY, ANY THOUGHTS, ANY IDEAS FOR HOW YOU GUYS CAN PURSUE THE GOAL OF GROWING OUR CANOPY? YEAH, JUST, AND AGAIN, I'M ALONE. 
          UH, THERE'S NO ONE ELSE IN THE ROOM AS I'M CHATTING WITH THIS. 
          UM, IT GETS SILLY TO SAY AFTER A WHILE. 
          I UNDERSTAND. 
          UM, I JUST, I JUST AGREE THAT PARTNERING WITH, WITH RELIEF AND SIMILAR MINDED ORGANIZATIONS, SCHOOL GROUPS, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, WOULD BE ONE OF THE BEST WAYS THAT THIS COMMITTEE COULD CONTINUE TO BRAND TREES. 
          YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'VE DONE A GREAT JOB, I THINK WE'RE A GREAT EXAMPLE OF, OF HOW A, UM, COMMUNITY-BASED DIALOGUE HAS TAKEN A CONCEPT AND THIS CASE TREES AND WORKED OVER TIME AND CHURNED IT INTO SOMETHING THAT WAS A LOW PRIORITY IN POLICY HERE AND NOW MOVED IT UP TO THE POINT WHERE WE NOW HAVE, YOU KNOW, POLICY STATEMENTS AROUND TREES. 
          SO CONTINUING JUST BY GROWING, PROTECTING WHATEVER WE'RE GONNA CALL IT. 
          UH, DARREN, I THINK YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS, THESE, THESE, THERE'S A VE THE VENN DIAGRAM OF THESE THREE AD HOCS ARE CONNECTED IN MANY WAYS. 
          SO HAVING, HAVING CONTINUED THE DIALOGUE OUT THERE AND GETTING IT OUT THERE IN V VARIOUS FASHIONS, JUST SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO KEEP IT, UH, FRONT AND FOREMOST, YOU KNOW, AT THE RELIEF EVENT NOW, IS THAT THEY TALKED ABOUT, HEY, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE TREE? WHO'S TAKING CARE OF THAT? WHO'S PUT, WHO'S SHEPHERDING THAT? UM, SO, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF THINGS THAT, 
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YOU KNOW, WE CAN BECOME SORT OF THAT THAT WATCHDOG IN A WAY I HOPE. 
          YEAH, FANTASTIC, FANTASTIC SUMMARY. 
          AND YES, A LOT OF THESE, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT THESE COULD JUST BE CALLED COMMITTEES ONE, TWO, AND THREE 'CAUSE THERE'S SO MANY GREAT IDEAS THAT OVERLAP. 
          UM, BUT I THINK THAT THREAD ABOUT RELIEF IS A GREAT ONE. 
          AND I WONDER IF A REALLY TANGIBLE, JUST BECAUSE, UH, KEITH WAS JUST AT THEIR BOARD MEETING AND THE ANNIVERSARY, I'M SURE STEPHANIE, YOU WERE AS WELL. 
          I WONDER IF THERE'S LIKE A MEETING YOU GUYS CAN HAVE AS AN AD HOC JUST TO SAY RELIEF. 
          WHAT DO YOU NEED HELP WITH? BECAUSE THEY ARE REALLY THE PRIMARY GROUP GROWING OUR CITY'S CANOPY IN A VERY CONSCIOUS WAY. 
          UM, BUT I WONDER IF THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD FIRST STEP AS LIKE A REALLY STRONG CONNECTION WITH RELIEF AND THEN BRING BACK IDEAS THEY HAVE. 
          UH, BUT STEPHANIE, PLEASE. 
          YEAH, NO, I WAS PLANNING ON TALKING TO WENDY TODAY, BUT I SERIOUSLY ABOUT NOT JUST WHAT WE'RE DOING BUT HOW WE COULD, HOW WE COULD WORK MORE CLOSELY TOGETHER. 
          AND I FEEL LIKE HER INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE OF TREES IS PROBABLY BEYOND ANYBODY SITTING HERE AT THIS TABLE. 
          AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT SHE LEARNED OR BEN WHEN WE WERE WALKING AROUND THE PARK WAS JUST TO SEE WHAT THE TREES THRIVE IN THIS ENVIRONMENT AND WHICH AREN'T DOING SO WELL. 
          AND YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE TREES THAT RELIEF PLANTED SOME TIME AGO THAT SHE, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WE WERE NOTICING WE'RE DOING BETTER THAN OTHERS. 
          AND THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW WHEN WE ADVISE PEOPLE TO WHAT ABOUT WHAT TO PLANT, I THINK WE MIGHT THINK ABOUT NOW THAT'S RELIEF IS ACTUALLY THE ONES THAT PUT OUT THE LIST OF WHAT SHOULD BE PLANTED IN PETALUMA. 
          SO, UM, MAYBE THEY COULD CHANGE THOSE AROUND A LITTLE BIT. 
          PETALUMA DOES HAVE AN APPROVED TREE LIST, LARGELY INFORMED BY FEEDBACK FROM RELIEF. 
          BUT I'M WONDERING, UH, JUST TO ASK THE GROW AD HOC, DO YOU GUYS ALL HAVE EMAIL ADDRESSES AND CONTACT? 'CAUSE I, I THINK, UM, IT WOULD BE GREAT IF, UM, IF YOU'RE ALREADY GONNA REACH OUT TO CC YOUR FELLOW TEAM MEMBERS, SEE IF THERE'S A WAY TO, TO KIND OF RALLY THE TROOPS TOGETHER FOR A MEETING. 
          'CAUSE I FIND THAT ESPECIALLY WITH A GROUP, RIGHT, LIKE RELIEF THAT'S ON THE GROUND DOING A LOT, IF YOU GUYS GET IN THE SAME ROOM, YOU'LL JUST START THINKING OF IDEAS AND WAYS YOU CAN HELP. 
          UH, AND IT MIGHT BE A GREAT, UH, JUMPSTART TO SEE YEAH, WHAT WHAT ITEMS CAN REALLY BE SOMETHING YOU CAN TAKE OWNERSHIP OF. 
          UM, SO GREAT, GREAT IDEA STEPHANIE. 
          UM, BOY WE'RE LUCKY TO HAVE RELIEF ABLE TO HELP WITH THESE THINGS AS WELL. 
          UH, ANYONE ELSE WITH THOUGHTS ON GROWING MAYBE ANYONE ELSE ON TAC HAS IDEAS FOR ITEMS RELATED TO GROWING OUR CANOPY OR INCENTIVIZING GROWING OUR CANOPY? I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT MANY, BUT I HAVE, YEAH. 
          STEPHANIE, PLEASE. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF TARYN WAS PLANNING ON BRINGING UP THE SUBJECT OF THE CHERRY VALLEY ISSUE. 
          WERE YOU GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT AT ALL? UM, BECAUSE THE REASON I ASK, THE REASON I ASK IS THAT I FEEL, I FEEL LIKE WHAT'S HA I MEAN I FEEL SOMEWHAT IT'S DISINGENUOUS TO BE TALKING ABOUT TREES AND KNOWING THAT IN OUR COMMUNITY 29 TREES ARE GONNA BE CUT DOWN IN A FEW DAYS. 
          IT'S, TO ME IT'S CRAZY MAKING AND I DIDN'T, I WASN'T PAYING ATTENTION TO THE ISSUE UNTIL TARYN GOT ME INVOLVED AND WE WENT TO SOME MEETINGS,  AND I KNOW THAT IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP TO CITY COUNCIL AND THEY'VE, SOME OF THE PEOPLE ON THE COUNCIL HAVE GONE TO THEIR MEETINGS. 
          IT'S A VERY STICKY ISSUE, BUT I FEEL LIKE WE DON'T GET ONTO THESE BIG ISSUES UNTIL IT'S TOO LATE. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT WAS MY INTRODUCTION TO THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          THIS ONE WAS HAVING BEEN INVOLVED IN THE RIVERBEND DEVELOPMENT PROBLEMS WITH THEM CUTTING DOWN TREES. 
          AND I ONLY FOUND OUT ALMOST BEFORE, RIGHT BEFORE THEY WERE GONNA DO IT ABOUT THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          AND IT TURNED OUT THAT THE PLANNING COMMITTEE, WHOMEVER WAS REPRESENTING THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAD NEVER MENTIONED RIVER BAND BEN TO THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          AND SO JOHN SHRIVES IT SO HAPPENED, JUMPED ON HIS BIKE AND CAME OVER AND HE WAS PARTLY TO THANK FOR HAVING GOTTEN US TO AT LEAST BE ABLE TO SAVE A FEW TREES. 
          BUT WHY WEREN'T WE TALKING ABOUT THAT HERE IN THIS COMMITTEE ABOUT THAT CHERRY VALLEY ISSUE? WELL, AND TARAN I'LL INVITE YOU, BUT I WILL SAY THAT GENERALLY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT BUSINESS, WE DON'T HAVE A DIRECT INTERFACE WITH. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE IMPROVED. 
          AND ACTUALLY WE'RE 
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GONNA GIVE AN UPDATE AS AN ENGAGE COMMITTEE WHO ALSO HAS NOT MET WHERE I HAVE AN IDEA FOR, MIGHT NOT COVER THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, BUT A WAY FOR US TO STAY UP ON TOP OF PROJECTS THAT ARE CITY OF PETALUMA PURVIEW. 
          UM, SO THAT'S AN IDEA I WANT TO BRING UP. 
          'CAUSE I THINK YOU'RE, YOU'RE DEFINITELY ON THE RIGHT TRACK. 
          KAREN, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANNA MENTION OR DO YOU WANNA SAY IT AT, UH, COMMITTEE COMMENT OR I, I'LL SAVE IT FOR COMMITTEE COMMENT. 
          I THINK THAT'S, UM, PROBABLY MOST APPROPRIATE. 
          I HAVE A COUPLE COMMENTS ABOUT THE GROW AD HOC, BUT FIRST A QUESTION, JEN, ARE YOU ABLE TO, DREW WOULD RATTLE THIS OFF QUICKLY, HELP US WITH UNDERSTANDING WHETHER, TO WHAT EXTENT CAN WE WORK WITH RELIEF? BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING, I'M SURE IT'S NOT RIGHT, IS THAT YOU CAN'T DO IT ONCE YOU'RE ON A COMMITTEE AND, OR, OR IS THAT WRONG AND IS IT JUST A COMMISSION OR THE COUNCIL? 'CAUSE I KNOW SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS HAD TO GIVE UP THEIR BOARD POSITIONS ON CERTAIN LOCAL LIKE ENVIRONMENTAL NONPROFITS ONCE THEY BECAME ON CITY COUNCIL. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, SO THAT THERE WAS NO CONFLICT OF INTEREST AND I DON'T THINK THEY'RE ALLOWED TO KEEP WORKING WITH THEM. 
          I'M NOT SURE OF THAT. 
          IS ARE THERE, WHAT ARE THE GUIDELINES? RIGHT. 
          WELL MY UNDERSTANDING IS RELIEF IS A NONPROFIT, SO I NEED TO DO A LITTLE DIGGING. 
          AND YES, YOU'RE PROBABLY RIGHT. 
          DREW COULD, YOU KNOW, HAS ALREADY MAYBE, UH, HAD THIS QUESTION COME UP BEFORE, BUT I CAN FOLLOW UP WITH THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO, UH, MAKE ABSOLUTELY SURE WHAT THE RULES ARE. 
          BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, AS A VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATION, IT'S A LITTLE, UM, IT'S NOT SO BLACK AND WHITE IN MY MIND. 
          IF IT WAS A FOR-PROFIT, IT WOULD BE PRETTY, PRETTY STANDARD THAT YEAH, WE'D HAVE TO HAVE SOME SEPARATION THERE. 
          BUT YES, SO THERE ALSO IS THE ABILITY TO, UH, RECUSE AND STEP OFF WHEN SOMETHING IS, YOU KNOW, IN CONFLICT WITH PARTICIPATION FROM, UM, IF, IF YOU'RE PART OF RELIEF. 
          SO WE, WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT AND SEE, YOU KNOW, JUST ABSOLUTELY VERIFY. 
          UH, BUT I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE OKAY TO MOVE FORWARD AND ASK THE QUESTIONS OF RELIEF AND HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS. 
          AND THEN MEANWHILE I'LL BE MAKING SURE TO COME BACK WITH A SOLID LEGAL ANSWER FOR IF YOU JOIN RELIEF OR IF WE PARTICIPATE IN RELIEF. 
          IS THERE ANYTHING MORE THAN RECUSAL THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN? THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S GREAT. 
          'CAUSE I THINK WHAT TO STRENGTHEN OUR CONNECTION WITH THEM WOULD BE A, A REALLY GREAT IDEA, UM, TO DO. 
          OKAY, SO HERE ARE MY COMMENTS ABOUT GROWTH. 
          UM, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND STEPHANIE, WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM. 
          'CAUSE WE LIVE IN THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD AND I WAS THINKING, YOU KNOW, HOW, UM, THIS SIDE OF PAYAN BRIDGE ON EITHER CORNER AND THEN ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF PAYAN BRIDGE ON THE RIGHT CORNER, THEY'RE ALL NON-PROFIT HOMES. 
          THAT HOUSE LIKE VETERANS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEY'RE LIKE SHARED HOMES AND THEY BENEFIT FROM HABITAT FOR HUMANITY, RIGHT? THEY'LL COME AND DO THE ROOF FOR THEM OR REPAIRS. 
          THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT OWN HOUSES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WHO HAVE TREES THAT ARE CLEARLY IN DISTRESS. 
          AND WHY CAN'T THERE BE LIKE ENGAGING HABITAT FOR HUMANITY OR REBUILDING PETALUMA TOGETHER? HEY, LOOK AT THIS TREE, IT'S ROOT BOUND, IT NEEDS MULCH, DA DA DA DA. 
          WE'LL DO IT. 
          YOU KNOW, JUST SIGN ON THE DOTTED LINE HERE. 
          MAYBE THERE'S THAT KIND OF THING BECAUSE, UM, I HATE TO TELL YOU, BUT THERE'S A MATURE MAGNOLIA TREE THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR PROBABLY 50, 60 YEARS AND THEY JUST HAVEN'T PROPERLY DONE THE SOIL OR MULCHED IT OVER AND THEY'RE GONNA CUT IT DOWN. 
          RIGHT? AND THEY'LL PROBABLY, IF THEY APPLY FOR A PERMIT, THEY'LL PROBABLY GET AN OKAY. 
          'CAUSE THE PERMIT WILL SAY, WELL, IT'S IN DISTRESS. 
          WELL, IT'S IN DISTRESS 'CAUSE IT'S NOT PROPERLY BEING TAKEN CARE OF. 
          OKAY. 
          SO MAYBE THAT'S AN IDEA. 
          UM, THE OTHER IDEA IS WHAT KEITH, UM, I THINK YOU AND BILL AND KEITH ALL TALKED ABOUT WAS, UM, THESE TREES THAT ARE THERE AND THEN A DEVELOPMENT COMES ALONG AND THEN IT MOVES SO QUICKLY AND WOW. 
          IT'S THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          WOW. 
          IT'S THROUGH COUN CITY COUNCIL AND OH, YOU'RE GONNA CHOP DOWN ALL THE TREES AND NOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD JUST, YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN INFORMED FOUR WEEKS AGO. 
          WE'RE SCRAMBLING TO GET ARBORIST REPORTS, WE'RE SCRAMBLING TO DO THIS TO UNDER WRAP OUR HEADS AROUND THE TECHNICAL DOCUMENTS, WHICH IS A HUGE ASK. 
          UM, KEITH IS OUR PLANNING COMMISSION LIAISON. 
          SOMEHOW I KNOW IN THE PAST TACK DISCUSSED, UM, HAVING MORE OF, YOU'RE ON A PLANNING COMMISSION, DARREN, UM, , UM, INTEGRATING MORE WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION BECAUSE ALL THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS TO DO TO A DEVELOPER IS SAY I MAKE A RECOMMENDATION 
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THAT YOU GO TO THE TREE COMMITTEE AND HAVE THE TREE COMMITTEE LOOK AT YOUR PLANS. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THEN THAT'S ALL YOU HAVE TO DO. 
          AND THEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION CAN DIRECT THE, THE DEVELOPER TO DO THAT. 
          AND THOSE EXTRA SET OF EYES WOULD HAVE SAVED US. 
          AND THE, UM, SEVERAL TREES AT RIVERBEND AND, PARDON ME, BUT SAVED PROBABLY SIX OR $7,000 THAT CAME OUT OF THE POCKETS OF RETIREES IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD TRYING TO SAVE THOSE TREES THAT DIDN'T NEED TO HAPPEN. 
          THOSE HARD, HARD DOLLARS DID NOT NEED TO BE SCRAPED OUTTA THEIR WALLETS. 
          SO, UM, IF WE COULD HAVE BETTER PLANNING COMMISSION INTEGRATION AND REFERRAL FROM PLANNING COMMISSION, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 
          AND THEN MY FINAL IDEA IS MONEY. 
          WE'VE TALKED ABOUT MONEY, CITY NEEDS MONEY FOR PRUNING TREES FOR HELPING WITH SIDEWALKS, LIKE THE SPECIAL ACCOMMODATION THAT BILL, UM, AND US HAVE WORKED ON IN AD HOCS IN THE PAST. 
          HOW ABOUT A FORMAL PRESENTATION OF KEYS FOR TREES? UM, I COULD DO A FORMAL PRESENTATION, I COULD PULL THAT TOGETHER NEXT MONTH IF YOU WANT. 
          BUT $600,000 PER YEAR OUTSOURCE THE PROGRAM. 
          I SEE THAT AS SOMETHING THAT GROWTH COULD TAKE A HOLD OF MINIMAL INVESTMENT BY THE CITY. 
          IT PAYS FOR ITSELF, IT PAYS DIVIDENDS AND IT'S A WONDERFUL TOURISM DRAW. 
          ECOTOURISM, THEY LOVE THAT. 
          THE EMOTIONAL CONNECTION TO EVERY HOTEL GUEST CONTRIBUTING TO THE TREES AND PETALUMA. 
          THAT IS, THAT IS THE HOLY GRAIL OF BRANDING FOR, UM, ECOTOURISM. 
          SO, UM, THOSE ARE WERE MY THREE IDEAS. 
          FANTASTIC. 
          I'M GONNA SAY A WORD ABOUT THE PLANNING COMMISSION PIECE 'CAUSE I SPENT TENS OF HOURS ABOUT A YEAR AGO TRYING TO CREATE A SUBCOMMITTEE OF TAC THAT WOULD MEET WITH OUR PLANNING DIRECTOR AND DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TO GO OVER PROJECTS BEFORE THEY CAME TO PLANNING. 
          AND REALLY BEFORE INITIAL ENTITLEMENTS ARE DONE. 
          SO YOUR BUILDING FOOTPRINTS AREN'T SET IN STONE. 
          UM, THERE ARE CHALLENGES WITH THAT. 
          THERE ARE LEGAL CHALLENGES WITH THAT. 
          IF YOU GUYS KNOW ABOUT ANY OF THE HOUSING ACCOUNTABILITY ACTS AND STATE LAWS AROUND HOUSING PROJECTS, THEY HAVE A LIMIT TO THE NUMBER OF MEETINGS THAT WE CAN PUT AN APPLICANT THROUGH. 
          SO WHEN SOMEONE WANTS TO BUILD A HOUSING PROJECT, THERE IS A LIMIT OF MEETINGS THAT THE CITY CAN PHYSICALLY REQUIRE OF THEM. 
          AND OUR STAFF IS RETICENT TO BURN ONE OF THOSE MEETINGS AT TREE COMMITTEE ESPECIALLY. 
          AND I'VE BEEN TOLD, BECAUSE WE CURRENTLY HAVE TWO TREE COMMITTEE MEMBERS ON PLANNING, THEY THINK THAT SHOULD BE KIND OF A CONDUIT TO ALLOW TREE COMMITTEE ENGAGEMENT. 
          I'D SAY THE OTHER PIECE OF THAT IS WITH THOSE SAME HOUSING ACCOUNTABILITY LAWS, WHICH ARE A LOT OF THE DEVELOPMENTS WE'RE REFERENCING RIVERBEND, OTHER DEVELOPMENTS LIKE THAT THERE, UM, ARE RESTRICTIONS ON WHAT WE CAN REQUIRE OF A DEVELOPER. 
          SO IF WE ASK THEM TO, AND YOU KNOW, THEIR SITE DESIGN REQUIRES THEM TO REMOVE A BIG TREE AND WE SAY, CAN'T YOU REDESIGN THAT BUILDING? THEY, WE HAVE NO NEXUS TO COMPEL THEM TO DO THAT. 
          IT WOULD CHANGE THE AFFORDABILITY OR THE ECONOMICS OF THEIR PROJECT. 
          AND THEREBY WE CAN'T ASK IT. 
          WE CAN'T REQUIRE IT AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL. 
          NOW IF ANYONE'S SEEN PLANNING COMMITTEES THAT I'VE SAT ON, I TRY TO NEGOTIATE AND PLANNING COMMISSION DOES, KEITH CAN ATTEST TO THIS. 
          WE NEGOTIATE EXTENSIVELY TO SAY, CAN YOU SAVE TREE 44 OR WHATEVER THE THING IS FOR REMOVAL AND IS THERE A WAY TO MOVE THIS PATHWAY? AND IT RELIES ON A LOT OF GOOD FAITH FROM THE DEVELOPERS TO BE WILLING TO DO THAT WHEN AGAIN, BY LAW THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO IT AT ALL. 
          NOW I WOULD SAY ONE IDEA I WAS GONNA BRING UP FOR ENGAGE WAS BECAUSE MY IDEA FOR A STANDING SUBCOMMITTEE TO MEET ON SITE PLAN DESIGNS WITH OUR PLANNING DIRECTOR WAS KIND OF SHUTTERED BECAUSE THERE WERE JUST TOO MANY COMPLEXITIES THAT I WASN'T EVEN THINKING OF THAT ONCE LEGAL GOT AHOLD OF IT, THEY SAID, THIS ISN'T REALLY A THING. 
          WE CAN IMPLEMENT THAT FORMALLY. 
          HOWEVER, I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE ENGAGE AD HOC. 
          STEPHANIE, THAT'S YOURSELF. 
          UH, UH, THAT'S YOU AND ME. 
          UH, TO, BECAUSE I'M ON PLANNING, UM, TO GET AN IDEA OF WHAT'S COMING DOWN THE PIKE. 
          HAVE MORE INFORMAL MEETINGS WITH THE HEAD PLANNING MANAGER TO SEE AND AND REALLY WE COULD SCAN THE CITY'S WEBSITE. 
          THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT HAS A WEBSITE OF ALL ACTIVE PROJECTS WITH PERMITS OUT. 
          UH, I WOULD WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S REALISTICALLY COMING FORWARD AND WHAT STAGE IT'S AT TO JUST KNOW IT'S COMING. 
          AND WE CAN LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN, WE CAN MEET WITH LOCAL LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS. 
          I'M THINKING HOWARD FORMBY USED TO BE ON THIS COMMITTEE, BUT THERE'S MANY OTHERS, UH, THAT WE COULD START DEVELOPING RELATIONSHIPS WITH TO SAY, LOOK, WE KNOW THIS IS COMING DOWN THE PIKE. 
          WE CAN'T HAVE A FORMAL MEETING WITH TREE COMMITTEE. 
          UH, AND UH, AND WE NEED TO MEET AND GO OVER THE SITE PLAN. 
          AND I WOULD LOVE IT AS A PLANNING COMMISSIONER BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE WASTE HOURS AND HOURS AND HOURS AT PLANNING COMMISSION ULTIMATELY TALKING ABOUT TREES. 
          PARTIALLY 'CAUSE KEITH AND I LOVE TREES. 
          SO WE START TALKING ABOUT IT AND THEN EVERYONE WEIGHS IN AND SUDDENLY 
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I FEEL LIKE WE'RE FOCUSED MORE ON THE TREES AND THE BUILDING MATERIALS, WHICH I WANT PLANNING COMMISSION TO STAY FOCUSED ON SITE PLANS AND BUILDING MATERIALS AND LAND USE. 
          AND I WOULD LOVE FOR SOME OF THAT LIFT ON TREE AND LANDSCAPE DESIGN TO COME FROM TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          AND IF WE CAN'T MAKE IT SOMETHING FORMAL FOR WHATEVER LEGAL REASON THAT I'VE RUN INTO, I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ENGAGE TO REALLY MAKE IT KIND OF THE PRIMARY TASK AT LEAST INITIALLY. 
          UH, AS MUCH AS I THOUGHT ENGAGE WAS LIKE PUBLIC OUTREACH AND I THINK THERE'S INTERNAL OUTREACH THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. 
          BETTER COORDINATION WITH PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND PLANNING COMMISSION THAT CAN HAPPEN THAT WE CAN TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THAT REALLY ISN'T, ISN'T AS HEAVY A LIFT EVEN AS SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          SO THAT KIND OF, I KIND OF MOVED OUT OF GROWTH INTO OUR AD HOC, STEPHANIE, THE, I CONSIDER THIS MY ENGAGED PRESENTATION. 
          THAT'S A PERFECT JUMPING OFF POINT IS REALLY I THINK ONE IDEA THAT WE CAN TAKE OWNERSHIP OF IS DIRECT LIAISON WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AS MUCH AS WE CAN, UM, AS MUCH AS THEIR TIME ALLOWS AND JUST OUR OWN PROACTIVENESS TO SEE PROJECTS COMING DOWN THE PIKE, DISCUSS SITE PLANS AND IF THERE'S ONE IN PARTICULAR AND THERE WILL BE SOME, UH, THAT INVOLVE HUNDREDS OF TREES. 
          I MEAN THAT DOES HAPPEN. 
          WE COULD COME AND BRING A PRESENTATION TO TAC TO SAY, HERE ARE THE, HERE'S THE SITE PLAN, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. 
          AND MAYBE OUT OF THAT WE CAN START PUTTING TOGETHER LETTERS OF RECOMMENDATION OR AT LEAST GETTING OUR TAC MEMBERS AT THE MEETING. 
          'CAUSE THAT DOES HELP A LOT. 
          WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO COMPEL THE DEVELOPER TO SAVE A TREE, BUT IF FIVE TO SEVEN PEOPLE COME UP AND SAY SAVE IT, THAT KIND OF CHANGES HOW THAT MEETING GOES. 
          AND, AND A LOT OF TIMES, UM, SO ANYWAY, I THINK THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT ONE. 
          THAT'S BEEN A PASSION PROJECT OF MINE. 
          I APPRECIATE YOU RAISING IT AND I WOULD LOVE FOR THAT TO BE SOMETHING. 
          I KNOW STEPHANIE, YOU'RE LIKE GONNA BE THE POINT PERSON FOR EVERYTHING. 
          UM, BUT BECAUSE YOU'RE ON TWO AD HOCS, UM, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WILL, UH, AS A MEMBER OF ENGAGE KNOWING THAT YOU'RE ON GROW AND HAVE A LOT THERE AS WELL. 
          I WILL TRY TO, BY OUR NEXT MEETING, AT LEAST START US WITH A FRAMEWORK FOR DOING THAT AND MAYBE EVEN HAVE A PROJECT TO SHARE THAT MIGHT HAVE TREE INVOLVEMENT THAT WE CAN ALL REVIEW AND PUT OUR LANDSCAPE DESIGN HAT ON. 
          UH, STEPHANIE, PLEASE. 
          WELL THIS MIGHT BE A LITTLE TOO, OH, AND THEN KEITH, I'LL LET, I DIDN'T SEE YOUR HAND RAISED. 
          OH, I'M SORRY. 
          KEITH. 
          IS IT OKAY IF I JUMP TO KEITH AND THEN WE CAN CIRCLE BACK TO, I'M SORRY. 
          UH, KEITH, PLEASE. 
          IT'LL BE REALLY QUICK. 
          JUST THROW ME ON ENGAGE TOO. 
          PUT ME IN THAT COMMITTEE IF I COULD. 
          'CAUSE I THINK WHAT YOU JUST SAID IS SPOT ON AND I THINK HAVING A GREATER LINK, WHETHER FORMALLY OR INFORMALLY WITH WHAT'S GOING ON AT THE PLANNING LEVEL, UH, WOULD BE GREAT. 
          AND YES, I'M STILL ALONE. 
           SOMETIMES THAT CAN SOUND A LITTLE SAD. 
          KEITH. 
          UH, NO, , YOU KNOW, I TRY NOT TO WEEP REALLY. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          WELL THAT'S GREAT. 
          SO THAT WOULD MEAN, UM, KEITH WOULD BE ON ENGAGE AND GROW AS WELL AS STEPHANIE. 
          AND THAT'S TOTALLY FINE. 
          UM, STEPHANIE, PLEASE, IF YOU HAVE THOUGHTS ON THIS, WELL THIS, THIS MIGHT JUST BE A TECHNICAL QUESTION, BUT WHEN YOU'RE REVIEWING THOSE PLANS, DEVELOPERS USUALLY HAVE A BIOLOGIST THAT THEY HIRE AND THEN THAT BIOLOGIST MIGHT JUST BE VERY COOPERATIVE WITH THEM ABOUT WHAT THEY WANT TO HEAR. 
          AND THAT'S, I THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'VE SEEN. 
          AND THAT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE SOMETHING LIKE WHAT HAPPENED AT THE SCHOOL AT, AT UH, CHERRY VALLEY. 
          AND THAT'S REALLY OKAY, I'M JUST, WHAT YOUR COMMENT IS. 
          I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR IT. 
          I I, THIS IS EXACTLY WHERE I WANTED TO GO WITH THIS AND I'LL JUST, I MEAN, YOU BROUGHT IT UP HERE. 
          IT'S GREAT. 
          YES, THERE ARE OFTEN ARBORIST REPORTS, NATURAL RESOURCES, REPORTS, AND THOSE ARE CONSULTANTS THAT, YOU KNOW, AS AN ENGAGED TEAM, AGAIN, WE COULD REACH OUT TO. 
          AND NOW WE WOULD WORK THIS OUT. 
          I, JEN, I CAN SEE YOU'RE LIKE, HOLD ON. 
          WHOA, HOLD ON. 
          UM, AND WE WOULD NOT WANNA BUY, WE, WE WOULDN'T WANNA STEP OVER OUR BOUNDARY, UM, IN TERMS OF WHAT WE CAN ASK OF APPLICANTS, BUT FINDING A WAY TO DO THAT JUDICIOUSLY WHERE WE CAN SAY, HEY, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT WASTING THE APPLICANT'S TIME. 
          WE DON'T NEED THE PRESIDENT OF THE DEVELOPMENT COMPANY HERE. 
          WE JUST WANT TO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS WITH THIS CONSULTANT. 
          AND MAYBE IT WOULD JUST BE WRITTEN QUESTIONS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          'CAUSE AS MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, PEOPLE DO THAT ALL THE TIME. 
          THEY DO REACH OUT TO CONSULTANTS FOR PROJECTS. 
          AND HONESTLY, SOME OF THAT THEN GETS SUBMITTED EVENTUALLY. 
          BUT FIGURING OUT OUR FORMAL PATHWAY ON ENGAGE TO NOT ONLY GIVE A HEADS UP ON PROJECTS COMING DOWN THE PIKE, BUT THEN ENGAGE WITH THE RELEVANT CONSULTANTS, LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND HAVE A CONVERSATION AND THINK OF QUESTIONS. 
          THERE COULD EVEN BE A WORKFLOW WHERE WE IDENTIFY A BIG PROJECT COMING, WE BRING IT TO TAC, PEOPLE HAVE GREAT QUESTIONS AT TAC AND THEN WE'RE ABLE TO PUT THOSE ON A LIST AND SUBMIT IT TO THE LANDSCAPE DESIGNER FOR THE PROJECT. 
          I THINK SOMETHING LIKE THAT COULD BE REALLY PRODUCTIVE TO FUNCTION AGAIN AS A BRIDGE, AS ALL THE, ALL COMMITTEES ARE A BRIDGE BETWEEN THE PUBLIC AND AN APPLICANT, A DEVELOPER, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE TO REALLY MAKE SURE WE'RE, WE'RE KEEPING EYES ON THINGS AND AND FOLLOWING 
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UP. 
          SO NO, THAT, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT, GREAT IDEA. 
          STEPHANIE, UM, ANYONE ELSE WITH, UH, I KNOW WE KIND OF JUMPED, I THINK TARYN HAD A LOT OF GREAT THINGS TO SAY ABOUT RAISING MONEY, REVENUE GENERATION, OTHER IDEAS. 
          UM, AND, AND TARYN'S GOT ANOTHER QUESTION. 
          IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WANTS TO, I KNOW WE'VE KIND OF THROWN A LOT OF THINGS OUT THERE, BUT IF ANYONE HAS IDEAS, THOUGHTS ABOUT EITHER MAYBE SOMETHING THAT GROW, UM, ASIDE FROM RELIEF YOU THINK IS A GREAT GROW PROJECT OR MAYBE SOMETHING THAT'S A GREAT ENGAGE PROJECT. 
          BILL, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE THINKING OF? LET'S SEE. 
          A LOT OF GREAT POINTS HAVE BEEN MADE AND I JUST WAS KIND OF THINKING THROUGH A FEW OF THEM. 
          AND I JUST WANTED TO TRIANGULATE BACK TO A COUPLE THINGS THAT ARE REALLY IMPORTANT TO THIS COMMITTEE AND TO ME IN PARTICULAR. 
          ONE, UH, THE POINT YOU MADE STEPHANIE AROUND LIKE THIS, HOW THESE TREES GET PRUNED EVERY FEW MONTHS OR SEVERAL TIMES A YEAR IN SANTA MONICA AND WHAT A NORTH STAR THAT WOULD BE FOR, FOR US TO, TO HAVE THAT TYPE OF, UM, YEAH, UH, MAINTENANCE OF OUR, OUR COMMUNITY TREES. 
          AND SO, UM, TARYN, YOU'VE BROUGHT UP KEYS FOR TREES. 
          I MEAN THAT TO ME IS LIKE SUCH A NO BRAINER. 
          I, I HOPE THAT WE CAN KEEP THAT MOMENTUM. 
          'CAUSE I'VE HEARD IT NOW AROUND THE COMMUNITY MORE AND MORE AND I THINK THAT, UH, THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT COULD HELP, YOU KNOW, JUMPSTART SOME MORE FUNDING WITHIN THE CITY TO DO THAT KIND OF THING. 
          AND LASTLY, I DON'T WANT TO END ON A NEGATIVE, BUT, UM, I WILL, I WANTED TO SEE A LITTLE MORE FROM THE UFMP AROUND THE BUDGETING, THE COST, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS THAT, UH, IT WOULD, THAT WOULD'VE, YOU KNOW, THE COST OF MAINTAINING OUR STREET TREES FOR EXAMPLE. 
          UM, I KNOW THAT THAT WAS PROBABLY OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE AND THE MONEY, BUT UM, IF WE KNEW THAT AND THEN WE COULD GO GET, LOOK FOR FUNDING SOURCES OR ASK FOR BUDGET DOLLARS IN OUR CITY FOR THAT TYPE OF THING. 
          AND UH, MAYBE THAT'S WHERE ENGAGE GETS INVOLVED. 
          BUT ANYWAY, THAT, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ARE CIRCULATING AROUND IN MY MIND. 
          I I THINK THAT'S A GREAT, I'LL JUST SAY BECAUSE WE JUST HAD A BUNCH OF BUDGET WORKSHOPS AT THE CITY THAT I WENT TO. 
          THE CITY IS STRUCTURALLY REDUCING COSTS AND WE'RE HITTING A POINT OF REALLY TIGHT BUDGETS. 
          UM, PENSIONS BENEFITS REALLY STATEWIDE, PROBABLY NATIONWIDE ARE INCREASING. 
          WE'RE SEEING SALES TAX AND PROPERTY TAXES EITHER STAY STEADY OR DROP A LITTLE BIT 'CAUSE THERE'S NOT AS MANY, UH, REAL ESTATE SALES HAPPENING. 
          SO WE DON'T GET THE PROPERTY TRANSFER TAXES AS MUCH. 
          SO I WOULD SAY THAT A BIG GOAL OF THIS COMMITTEE COULD BE, AND WE CAN DECIDE WHAT AD HOC LIKE TAKES THE LEAD OF THIS, BUT I THINK SOMETHING LIKE KEYS FOR TREES, FINDING REVENUE GENERATING OPPORTUNITIES IS GONNA BE PROBABLY THE ONLY PATH TO ADDING MORE SCOPE ON PETALUMA'S TREE CARE. 
          UM, I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIND AND BUILD REVENUE CHANNELS ANYWAY. 
          TARYN, I KNOW YOU HAD THOUGHTS. 
          UM, WELL THANKS TO UH, KEITH AND DARREN FOR BEING TREE ADVOCATES ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          I'VE SEEN THAT IT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE. 
          I'VE SEEN THE IMPACT THAT YOU'VE HAD, WHICH IS A DRAMATIC CHANGE FROM WHAT IT USED TO BE. 
          AND I THINK YOU SAVED, UM, A TREE OR TWO ON SID COMMONS, RIGHT? MM-HMM . 
          THE BIG ONE. 
          THANK YOU . 
          THANK YOU. 
          THESE ARE HERITAGE TREES. 
          THESE ARE TREES THAT ARE LIKE OVER A HUNDRED YEARS OLD. 
          AND BASIC ARCHITECTURE IS, YOU KNOW, YOU WORK WITH THE LAND THAT YOU HAVE AND GOD FORBID IF ANYONE EVER DROVE UP PAST SCOTT RANCH, LIKE I HAD THE HORROR OF DOING, THEY RIPPED OUT EVERY LITTLE BLADE OF GRASS AND TREE. 
          IT WAS LIKE THE DUST BOWL UP THERE ON A SUMMER DAY ABOUT A YEAR AGO. 
          IT WAS HORRIFYING. 
          LIKE MAD MAX DYSTOPIA, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION CAN HAVE A JOINT MEETING WITH THE ARBOR REPORT, UH, UH, ARBOR COMMITTEE. 
          UM, THAT'S A SOLUTION FOR GETTING AROUND THAT LAW. 
          AND WHY DO I SAY THAT THAT MIGHT BE VALUABLE? BECAUSE LOOK AT HOW MUCH WE POUR ATTENTION OVER THE TREE. 
          INFORMATION PLANNING COMMISSION, LIKE YOU SAID, HAS A WHOLE OTHER THINGS TO BUILDING MATERIALS, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, PARKING RATIOS. 
          WE DON'T DO THAT. 
          WE DO THE DEEP DIVE ON TREES, SO WHY NOT A JOINT MEETING? WE'VE HAD JOINT MEETINGS WITH OTHER COMMITTEES IN THE PAST, CLIMATE COMMISSION, PARK COMMISSION, ET CETERA. 
          AND THEN ALSO YET YOU CAN'T BE REQUIRED. 
          BUT I SEE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS AND CITY COUNCIL REPEATEDLY SAY, NOT ALLOWED TO REQUIRE THIS OF YOU, MR. MS. DEVELOPER, BUT I'M GONNA ASK YOU AND YOU ASKED SURE. 
          YOU SAVED TREES BY JUST ASKING. 
          SO GOODWILL IS A REAL THING. 
          AND UM, I DON'T THINK DEVELOPERS ARE NECESSARILY BAD GUYS THAT ALL WANNA GO MAD MAX ON A PARCEL OF GROUND. 
          BUT, UM, SO I THINK THAT THERE ARE NUANCES TO NEGOTIATING AND WHAT I'VE SEEN FROM, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF LATE THANK 
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YOU, KEITH. 
          THANK YOU DARREN IS NUANCED UNDERSTANDING OF HOW TO NEGOTIATE FOR REAL TANGIBLE BENEFIT. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          AND THEN THE FINAL THING I WANTED TO SAY IS I LOVE THE IDEA YES. 
          AN AD HOC THAT IN, UM, UH, CONNECTS WITH DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS BECAUSE, AND YOU GOTTA MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE RECENT PROJECTS. 
          'CAUSE THEY DON'T ALWAYS HIT THE WEBSITE IN A TIMELY FASHION. 
          THEY CAN COME AND GO LIKE A GHOST. 
          UM, BUT YOU HAVE TO GET IN THERE RIGHT AT THE GET GO BEFORE THE ARCHITECT STARTS SAYING, I'M GONNA CUT EVERYTHING DOWN. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU KNOW, YOU WANT THAT PRELIMINARY KIND OF A CONCEPT BEING FLESHED OUT, NOT THE OKAY, NOW WE JUST SPENT A HUNDRED GRAND ON SOME BLUEPRINTS. 
          YEAH, YOU WANNA GET IN THERE EARLY AND SAY, PLEASE, OUR CANOPIES AND DIRE NEED SAVE THE TREES. 
          WHAT CAN WE DO? DA DA DA DA DA. 
          SO THOSE WERE MY COMMENTS FOR NOW. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I THINK GREAT COMMENTS. 
          AND I'LL JUST SAY FROM BANGING MY HEAD AGAINST THE WALL ON THIS VERY ISSUE FOR THREE TO FOUR YEARS, UM, THE MOST REALISTIC WAY FOR US TO HAVE FORMALIZED INPUT IS GOING TO BE AN AD HOC THAT DEVELOPS RELATIONSHIPS WITH PLANNING STAFF THAT DEVELOPS OUR OWN INTERNAL CAPACITY OF HOW TO TRACK PROJECTS, REVIEW PROJECTS, PUT IN THE WORK TO GIVE TACK THE HEADS UP PROJECTS ARE COMING. 
          UH, AND EVENTUALLY POTENTIALLY GET TO A POINT OF EVEN BEING ABLE TO REACH OUT IN A VERY KIND OF STRUCTURED MANNER, UM, TO A LANDSCAPE DESIGNER OR A CONSULTANT. 
          LIKE I SAID, PROBABLY WITH WRITTEN QUESTIONS, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ON JOINT COMMITTEE MEETINGS, I'LL JUST TELL YOU THAT THEY, THEY DON'T HAPPEN FOR BIG VOTES, UH, AND TREE COMMITTEE. 
          BUT, BUT THAT'S NOT TO SAY THEY COULD NEVER HAPPEN. 
          BUT I THINK WHERE THIS STARTS IS OUR COMMITTEE SHOWING THAT WE HAVE THE DRIVE TO DO THIS. 
          AND THAT'S USUALLY WHERE THAT STARTS IS WE SHOW AND WE DEMONSTRATED AN ACTION. 
          AND IF WE, AND IF WE HAVE AN AD HOC THAT'S ABLE TO WORK WITH A PROJECT OR DEVELOP ANY KIND OF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT GETS SUBMITTED IN THE PUBLIC RECORD FOR THAT PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING, THAT BUILDS MOMENTUM. 
          PEOPLE SEE THAT, AND I THINK ONCE THEY SEE HOW MUCH TIME IT SAVES FROM PLANNING COMMISSIONERS TALKING ABOUT TREES, THEY WILL WANT US TO DEVELOP THAT. 
          SO NO POINTS WELL TAKEN. 
          I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, ANYONE'S TRYING TO PREVENT THAT. 
          AND I'VE DESPERATELY BEEN TRYING TO DO EXACTLY THAT. 
          UM, AND I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S A A PATH HERE. 
          THERE'S A PATH HERE THROUGH THIS MODEL. 
          UM, ANYONE ELSE'S THOUGHTS ON ENGAGE? AND, AND I WILL JUST SAY, UH, YOU KNOW, IT SOUNDS LIKE, JUST TO SUMMARIZE A LITTLE BIT, IT SOUNDS LIKE FOR GROW WE'VE GOT LIKE DEVELOPING THIS REALLY STRONG RELATIONSHIP WITH RELIEF. 
          I THINK FOR GROWING OUR CANOPY, THAT'S THE MOST APPROACHABLE BEST OPTION. 
          FIGURING OUT HOW CAN WE HELP YOU? HOW CAN TAC HELP YOU? EVEN IF THAT TURNS INTO THOSE UPDATES AT FIRST, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 
          UM, FROM KEITH, BILL AND STEPHANIE, UH, I THINK IF IT'S A GROW OR ENGAGE THING FOR REVENUE GENERATION, I THINK THAT'S A PROJECT SOMEONE CAN LOOK AT. 
          EVEN IF IT STARTS WITH INITIAL RESEARCH TO BRING BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE OF KEYS FOR TREES AS A MODEL HERE, WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING TO MAKE MONEY FOR TREES. 
          UM, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE THAT UNDER ENGAGE OR BILL IF YOU WANT THAT TO BE A THING UNDER, I MEAN, ALL THESE THINGS ARE SO RELATED, BUT UM, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE THAT UNDER ENGAGE ALONG WITH THE ENGAGE PROJECT OF THIS PLANNING COMMISSION FOCUS, BUILDING OUT OUR CAPACITY TO, AGAIN, AS INDIVIDUALS GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION WEBSITE, PULL UP PROJECTS, MAYBE I CAN ASK A PLANNING MANAGER WHAT PROJECTS ARE LOOKING LIKE THEY'RE MOST LIKELY TO COME FORWARD, WE REVIEW WITHOUT BOTHERING AN APPLICANT AT FIRST, BRING IT BACK TO TAC AND START BUILDING OUR FLUENCY WITH THESE CONCEPTS. 
          OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE MARIANNE, WHO'S AN EXPERIENCED LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, DESIGNER. 
          I MEAN, WELL I JUST MEAN  JUST MEAN MORE MORE PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE THAN MYSELF. 
          BUT TO BRING THAT BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE, GET INPUT AND THEN START TO BUILD OUT WITH, WITH PLANNING WITH OUR STAFF MEMBER, HOW CAN WE GIVE SOME KIND OF INPUT HERE? I THINK THOSE ARE EASY FIRST STEPS FOR GROW AND ENGAGE TO START WITH. 
          BUT I THINK THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF OTHER GREAT IDEAS THROWN OUT, UM, THAT I WILL PROBABLY TRY TO TAKE FROM THE TRANSCRIPT. 
          AND I, I WOULD SAY THAT WAS MY IDEA FOR ENGAGE NUMBER THREE WAS TO TRY TO HELP BUILD A LIST INTERNALLY FOR TAC OF THE DIFFERENT INITIATIVES, IDEAS, MAYBE BRAINSTORM OTHERS AND THEN WORK WITH JEN TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO SHARE THAT. 
          I DON'T WANNA SAY ENGAGE OUR INTERNAL AD HOC COMMITTEE, UH, BUT CREATE THAT LIST OF PROJECTS THAT, THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO TAKE ON. 
          UH, AND I THINK WITH THAT, MY ONLY OTHER COMMENT WAS GONNA BE ON PROTECT THE IDEA OF THE PARK ASSIGNMENTS. 
          YOU KNOW, AT FIRST WHEN I HEARD ABOUT THE INSERTS, UH, AND THE COMMENDATION PROGRAM, I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S LIKE A PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT THING. 
          BUT I THINK IT GOES WITH PROTECTING TREES. 
          IT'S REALLY LIKE HOW TO TAKE CARE OF TREES, HOW TO PROTECT 
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TREES. 
          ALL OF THIS STUFF ARE GONNA HAVE ASPECTS OF COMMUNICATION. 
          THAT'S OUR PRIMARY FUNCTION IS COMMUNICATING OUT. 
          I MEAN THAT'S, UNLESS WE'RE ASKED SPECIFICALLY TO DO SOMETHING, A LOT OF OUR STUFF IS GONNA BE COMMUNICATIONS, BRANDING, WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT. 
          IT'S A LOT OF WHAT TAC DOES. 
          UH, BUT I THINK THE ASSIGNMENT PROGRAM, THAT COULD ALMOST BE, AND I GUESS HERE'S MY PROPOSAL, THAT COULD ALMOST BE A TREE COMMITTEE THING, NOT JUST PROTECT. 
          I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE GENERATED THE SEED OF THE IDEA THAT EVERYONE LOVES. 
          IT'S, I DUNNO WHY WE HADN'T THOUGHT OF IT BEFORE. 
          SO THAT'S AMAZING. 
          UM, AND THEN I WONDER TO PLANT A SEED WITH YOUR TEAM, UM, NOT TO GIVE YOU MORE TO DO, BUT I WONDER IF THERE'S A WAY TO WORK WITH JEN. 
          I, I DON'T KNOW HOW FORMALIZED WE ARE ON THE PERMITTING AND ORDINANCE PROCESS. 
          IT'S STILL SO NEW, BUT A WAY FOR OUR PROTECT TEAM TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A PULSE ON THAT. 
          MAYBE, MAYBE WE DON'T ASK PUBLIC WORKS TO GIVE EVERY SINGLE REPORT, BUT THEY'RE PROBABLY AVAILABLE ONLINE IF PEOPLE HAVE SUBMITTED THE PERMITS, RIGHT? YEAH, WE ARE, THE PLANNING TEAM IS STILL PUTTING THAT TOGETHER. 
          SO, UH, I DON'T HAVE ANY UPDATES FOR THE COMMITTEE YET REGARDING THAT, BUT YEAH, WE CAN, AS I START TO LEARN MORE ABOUT WHAT THAT PROCESS LOOKS LIKE, I CAN UPDATE THE COMMITTEE FROM THERE. 
          I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT BECAUSE, AND WE TALK A LOT TONIGHT TOO ABOUT, UM, WHAT I WOULD CALL KIND OF DOOR KNOCKING, HOW WE ENGAGE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY. 
          LIKE WHY ARE YOU CUTTING THIS TREE DOWN? AND, AND AGAIN, JEN, I KNOW, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE STILL GETTING YOUR WHOLE, UH, FAMILIARITY WITH OUR PROCESSES, BUT IN TERMS OF MEMBERS OF A COMMITTEE REACHING OUT TO THE PUBLIC, UM, I MEAN, AS MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, WE CAN GO TALK TO OUR NEIGHBORS, BUT IS THERE ANY GUIDELINES, ANYTHING TO WORRY ABOUT? CAN PEOPLE GO AND SAY, HEY, I'M PART OF TREE COMMITTEE, I JUST WANTED TO ASK YOU ABOUT THIS. 
          UH, WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? BECAUSE WE MIGHT NOT NEED PERMISSION FROM HEADQUARTERS, SO, RIGHT. 
          IF YOU ARE GONNA ENGAGE AS, UH, MEMBERS OF THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, I THINK MAKING SURE YOU'RE STATING THAT UPFRONT WHEN YOU'RE MEETING WITH CITIZENS AND LETTING KNOW, UM, YOU, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOUR ROLE IS HERE AT THE TECH, UM, AND HOW, UM, HOW THEY CAN BE INVOLVED OR HOW THE TECH CAN HELP, UH, YOU KNOW, LET THEM KNOW WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU ARE DOING. 
          UM, I, I THINK THAT'S WHERE YOU WANNA BE CAREFUL FROM MOVING FROM ADVOCACY AND INTEREST IN BRINGING, UH, TECH RELATIONSHIPS TO, UM, UH, MAYBE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WITHOUT BRINGING IT BACK TO THE TECH. 
          SO YEAH, GET OUT THERE, MEET PEOPLE, , UM, LET THEM KNOW WHO WE ARE. 
          AND, AND, AND CERTAINLY I AM AVAILABLE IF, IF ANYTHING COMES UP, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND I THINK IN THE, IN THE LINE OF THE REMOVAL PERMITS, I THINK IT'S A GREAT WAY TO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE REALLY LIKE, KIND OF MASTERS OF COMMUNICATION ON OUR PROTECT COMMITTEE. 
          IF THEY KNEW WHAT PERMITS WERE COMING AND THERE WAS A WAY TO SAY, HEY, THEY'RE ALLOWED TO REACH OUT TO THE PERSON, SAY, HEY, WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS? COULD, AND IT COULD EVEN BE COLLECTING SOME OF THAT QUALITATIVE DATA THAT CAN BE TOUGH AS A CITY TO COLLECT AND HOUSE, BUT TAC COULD HELP BUILD SOME OF THAT. 
          OR LIKE, HERE ARE THE REASONS WE'RE SEEING WHY PEOPLE ARE REMOVING 'EM. 
          UM, I I, I THINK, I THINK THAT COULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY. 
          UM, BUT LIKE I SAID, I THINK FOR THE ENGAGE TEAM, UM, THAT'S STEPHANIE NOW, KEITH AND MYSELF. 
          IS THAT OKAY FOR KEITH? I THINK WE CAN JUMP ON INFORMALLY, RIGHT? 'CAUSE HE'S MEMBER THREE. 
          YES, ABSOLUTELY. 
          UM, HE CAN, HE CAN JOIN. 
          UM, AND ALSO IF, UH, MEMBER BOR, LUCI WOULD, LUCCI WOULD LIKE TO JOIN ANY OF THEM, UH, WE CAN HEAR FROM YOU TONIGHT AS WELL. 
          UM, I'M ALREADY ON TWO AD HOC COMMITTEES WITH THE PARKS COMMISSION, SO I FEEL I CAN  HAVE CAPACITY FOR THAT RIGHT NOW. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND I JUST REMIND THE, THE, UH, COMMITTEE MEMBERS, UH, NOT TO COMBINE YOUR AD HOC MEETINGS AND DISCUSS THAT WITH EACH OTHER. 
          UM, NOW THAT YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THIS FANTASTIC SYNERGY WORKING. 
          UM, JUST A, A SUPER GENTLE REMINDER. 
          A A GREAT REMINDER THOUGH IS LIKE, ONCE WE KNOW THE PROJECTS WE'RE WORKING ON, MAKE SURE YOU DISCUSS THAT ONLY WITH YOUR AD HOC. 
          SO WE DO NOT RUN A FOUL OF BROWN ACT, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT LIKE, IF ENGAGE DOES THINGS WITH PLANNING PROJECTS, THAT DEFINITELY HAS TO STAY WITH THE ENGAGE TEAM, UH, ONCE YOU START REACHING INTO KIND OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT MIGHT HAVE HEARINGS IN THE FUTURE. 
          WELL, I THINK A LOT OF GOOD IDEAS HAVE BEEN SHARED. 
          I, I'VE GIVEN MYSELF SOME HOMEWORK. 
          'CAUSE SEEING, UH, DIANE AND TARYN'S WORK, I'VE FELT LIKE I NEED TO GET MYSELF IN GEAR HERE. 
          BUT I THINK SUMMARIZING, UM, SOME OF THE IDEAS FROM THIS MEETING WILL BE AN EASY FIRST STEP. 
          UH, AND THEN I WILL EMAIL STEPHANIE AND KEITH, UM, LIKE THE PLANNING COMMISSION WEBSITE AND WE CAN START LOOKING AT THAT AND MAYBE HAVE A MEETING IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS 
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TO JUST FIGURE OUT IF THESE COUPLE IDEAS WE THOUGHT OF ARE GOOD. 
          UH, AND IF GROW'S ABLE TO MEET WITH RELIEF. 
          I THINK THIS IS ALL A, A FANTASTIC START, UH, LED, LED BY OUR PROTECT TEAM. 
          UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS, THOUGHTS? I KNOW THIS IS A LOT, BUT ANY OTHER, SORRY, I HAVE ONE MORE THING I JUST WANTED TO SAY. 
          I, SO IN SUPPORT OF WORKING UP A PUBLIC IMAGE FOR TAC, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT WE EXIST. 
          AND WHEN I TELL THEM, OH YEAH, I'M ON THE TREE COMMITTEE, YOU KNOW, THEY, WELL, WHAT DO YOU DO? I SAID, WELL, LOTS OF THINGS, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT YOU HA ARE BENEFITING FROM, BUT THERE ARE THINGS IN THE BACKGROUND. 
          A LOT OF IT IS IN THE BACKGROUND AND THE PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I THINK THEY WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF WE CAME OUT AND TOLD THEM WHAT WE'RE DOING. 
          SOMETIMES MAYBE REPORT ONCE IN A WHILE OR, YOU KNOW, WRITE A LITTLE, OH, THE TREE COMMITTEE DID THIS, YOU KNOW, IN THE CITY LETTER OR WHATEVER. 
          BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT IS LIKE IT'S PEOPLE, THEY HAVE TO SEE THAT WE ARE PEOPLE WHEN WE GO TO A DEVELOPER, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO CREATE A RELATIONSHIP WITH THAT PERSON BEFORE WE ASK THEM. 
          SO THING, I THINK THAT'S MY OPINION. 
          ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. 
          AS WITH SO MUCH A LOCAL POLITICS, IT IS RELATIONSHIPS AND GOODWILL AND, UH, TARYN MADE THAT POINT AS WELL. 
          I THINK IT'S A POINT WELL TAKEN. 
          UH, NOW I HAVE AN OPEN PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM, SO IF WE DO NOT HAVE ANY MORE THOUGHTS ON THIS, I THINK WE'VE ALL GOT A LOT TO THINK ABOUT, COORDINATE ON OUTSIDE THE MEETING. 
          UM, WITH THAT, I WILL CLOSE THIS, UH, PUBLIC HEARING AND MATTER FOR CONSIDERATION PORTION. 
          I WILL CLOSE OUR AD HOC COMMITTEE UPDATES AND DISCUSSION. 
          AND THAT MOVES US INTO COMMITTEE 
          [COMMITTEE COMMENT]
COMMENT. 
          AND THIS WOULD BE UPDATES FROM, UH, MEMBERS OF OUR COMMITTEE WITH MATTERS PERTINENT TO TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE UPDATES FROM LIAISON APPOINTMENTS. 
          UH, AND MAYBE I WILL START WITH KEITH. 
          YEAH, THANK YOU. 
          UM, THIS IS JUST GONNA BE A QUICK PLANNING COMMISSION SORT OF UPDATE AT OUR LAST PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. 
          THERE WAS, UM, I GUESS WHAT YOU COULD CONSIDER A ROBUST DISCUSSION ABOUT THE GENERAL PLAN AND REVIEW OF IT. 
          UM, IT, THERE WAS A SOMEWHAT OF A CONTENTIOUS ISSUE THAT YOU PROBABLY ALL KNOW ABOUT DEALING WITH BUILDING HEIGHTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE GENERAL PLAN. 
          UM, ESPECIALLY AROUND THE DOWNTOWN SMART STATION. 
          UM, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY OF AN EIGHT STORY BUILDING, UH, THAT COULD BE IF, IF DONE ACCORDING TO THE GENERAL PLAN COULD GO THERE WITH A STATE MANDATED BUMP, UH, WITH, UM, SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO 11 STORIES. 
          UM, THE INTENT OF THIS BUMP IS IN THE NAME OR IS IN THE NAME OF THE NEED FOR HOUSING, UM, WHICH I THINK MOST PEOPLE WOULD CONCLUDE. 
          WE DO NEED MORE HOUSING HERE AND THROUGHOUT CALIFORNIA. 
          UM, WHETHER ANY SINGLE ACTION OR EVEN MULTIPLE ACTIONS BY PETALUMA WILL SOLVE THE HOUSING ISSUE HERE ACROSS THE STATE IS OPEN TO DEBATE, I SUPPOSE. 
          UM, I COMMENTED AT THE COMMITTEE THAT IF WE WERE GONNA GO TO THAT TYPE OF HEIGHT, WE SHOULD DO SO INCREMENTALLY. 
          UM, AND, UM, I WANNA ADD THAT CHAIR KUSON, UM, DID A GREAT JOB MONDAY AT THE COUNCIL MEETING. 
          I I THOUGHT IT WAS A FANTASTIC TALK YOU GAVE, UH, AT THE COUNCIL MEETING OF PLACING THE HEIGHT ISSUE. 
          YOU PLACED THE HEIGHT ISSUE IN A VERY RATIONAL OBJECTIVE CONCEPT, A CONTEXT STRIPPED OF SORT OF THE, THE EMOTIONAL, OVERLY EMOTIONAL DEBATE THAT'S GOING ON AROUND THAT. 
          UM, AND, AND REALLY OFFERED THE POSSIBILITY OF DOING THESE TYPES OF CONSENSUS BUILDING IN A MORE POLITE COMMUNITY DIALOGUE THAN WHAT'S OCCURRING AT THIS JUNCTURE. 
          SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT. 
          I GREATLY APPRECIATE IT. 
          WELL, GREAT, GREAT UPDATE, KEITH. 
          THAT IS THE ISSUE OF THE PAST COUPLE YEARS AND, UH, GREAT SYNOPSIS AND IT WAS A GREAT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. 
          UH, SO WITH THAT, I'LL ACTUALLY START KIND OF MOVING FROM KEITH ONTO OUR LEFT. 
          UM, MARYANNE, IF YOU HAVE ANY UPDATES MAYBE FROM PARKS OR ANYTHING ELSE? UM, I, I DON'T HAVE ANY PARKS UPDATES, JUST THAT THEY'RE, UM, OH, THE, THE CASEY SKATE PARK IS OPENING TOMORROW AFTERNOON. 
          THEY'RE HAVING A CEREMONY THERE IF YOU GUYS WANNA COME DOWN FOR THAT. 
          UM, BUT YEAH, THEY'RE JUST GETTING INTO, UH, THE SWING OF THE SUMMER, WHICH IS A BUSY TIME OF THE YEAR, THE FAIR'S COMING UP. 
          UM, SO THEY GOT A LOT OF THINGS ON THEIR PLATE AND UM, BUT I THINK OVERALL PARKS DEPARTMENT IS, UM, REALLY MOVING FORWARD WITH A LOT OF GREAT THINGS. 
          SO THAT'S ALL. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT UPDATE. 
          UH, STEPHANIE, ANY UPDATES? YEAH, I THINK I'LL LET TARYN TALK ABOUT THE, AT THE MEETING WE ATTENDED AT CHERRY VALLEY, BUT, UM, I HAD THE PLEASURE OF, OF JUDGING A, A SEVENTH GRADE SCIENCE PROJECT 
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AT KENWORTH SCHOOL. 
          IT WAS A DESIGN PROJECT BY, IT WAS CALLED REWILD SCHOOL PROJECT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND IT WAS JUST SO INTERESTING TO SEE HOW ON IT, THE TEACHER, HER NAME'S KATE RENIE IS ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING AND ABOUT TREES AND ABOUT ABOUT THE, THE, THE, THE ISSUES OF TODAY'S WORLD. 
          AND THE KIDS WERE DESIGNING, REDESIGNING THE CAMPUS AND THERE WAS, THERE WERE, UH, YOU KNOW, SOLAR PANELS AND THERE WERE TREES UP ON TOP OF, OF, OF BUILDINGS AND UM, PARKS ON THE, IT WAS JUST WONDERFUL. 
          GREAT. 
          AND ONE OF THE KIDS HAD A LITTLE PARK AREA AND A MOUNTAIN LION IN IT TOO. 
          THAT'S FABULOUS. 
          SO CHARMING. 
          ANYWAY, AND UM, AND THEN, AND THEN, UH, WENDY HAD ASKED, WENDY HAD ASKED ME TO LOOK AT THE TREES THAT TREE RELIEF HAD PLANTED ON BOTH SIDES OF KENNELWORTH, WHICH I DID NOT SEE. 
          I DIDN'T HAVE THE TIME TO DO THAT, BUT THAT IT WAS HEARTWARMING TO SEE HOW MUCH THE CHILDREN ARE LEARNING IN THIS TOWN ABOUT TREES AND YEAH. 
          AND THAT AND THE, UM, AND THEN I WENT ON THE, AND I LEARNED A LOT WHEN I WENT UP TO THE PRUNING, UM, SEMINAR. 
          AND, AND SO IT REALLY PREPARED ME A LOT FOR WHAT TARYN AND DIANE PROPOSED. 
          IT REALLY HELPED ME TO SEE HOW IMPORTANT MAINTENANCE OF TREES IS. 
          SO IT WAS, IT WAS A GOOD LEARNING EXPERIENCE. 
          AND I, THAT WAS WHERE I REALIZED THAT WENDY KNEW SO MUCH ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE TREES THAT WERE THERE AT THE PARK WHERE WE, I THINK IT WAS SUNRISE PARK AND THERE WERE SO MANY TREES. 
          I MEAN, IT WAS AMAZING HOW MUCH WORK THEY'VE DONE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND THEY HAVE, THEY'RE ABLE TO PAY A COUPLE OF PEOPLE TO PUT POSTS ON THE GROUND AND KIND OF CORRECT SOME VERY LARGE PROBLEMS THAT THE TREES HAVE. 
          SO IT WAS VERY PRODUCTIVE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WOW. 
          FANTASTIC UPDATE. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          UH, BILL, ANY UPDATES FOR TECH? NO UPDATES. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          UH, I WILL, I WILL SAVE MYSELF FOR LAST 'CAUSE I WANT TO HEAR ABOUT CHERRY VALLEY. 
          UH, TARYN, PLEASE. 
          WITH YOUR COMMITTEE UPDATE. 
          NO UPDATE. 
          , IT'S ALL YOURS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, TWO UPDATES. 
          ONE, I JUST WANNA COVER THAT I HAD A MEETING TODAY WITH A NATIONAL EXPERT ON EMF, UH, RADIATION, WHICH IS THE RADIATION THAT COMES OUT OF OUR CELL TOWERS. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND IT'S GOING UP, UP, UP WITH 5G, SIX G, GOD, HOW MANY GS THERE WILL BE IN THE FUTURE, BUT SOMETHING I DIDN'T KNOW. 
          UM, ALL OF IT I REALLY DIDN'T KNOW. 
          BUT TREES ARE IMPACTED BY THIS. 
          AND SHE HAD A BUNCH OF SLIDES OF TREES WERE, THEY'RE NEAR LIKE BIG TOWERS, RIGHT? LIKE A POLE TOWER AND THEY GET COMPLETELY BURNED BY THE RADIATION. 
          AND SO YOU'LL SEE ONE TREE, UM, THAT GETS BURNED BY THE, UM, THE DIRECT, THE BROADCASTING OF THE RADIATION ON ONE SIDE. 
          AND SO IT'S PRETTY LIKE, OH, OKAY, I CAN SEE THAT ONE SIDE IS BURNED. 
          BUT THEN ALSO WHEN THERE'S TALL, TALL POLES AND THEY GO OUT FOR A DISTANCE, WHAT THEY OFTEN DO IS EFFECTIVELY TOP TALL TREES. 
          AND SHE HAD LOTS OF PICTURES. 
          I'M LIKE, HUH, I'VE SEEN THIS WHERE YOU SEE A REDWOOD TREE OR SOMETHING AND THE VERY TOP OF IT IS DEAD. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I'M LIKE, I ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WAS JUST DROUGHT. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          BUT SHE SAID THAT IF, LOOK AROUND AND SEE IF YOU CAN FIND AN ANTENNA BECAUSE THE, THE, WHATEVER THEY CALL IT, THE RADIATION, UM, COMES OUT AND IT GOES OUT HORIZONTALLY OVER, YOU KNOW, AND USUALLY THE POLES ARE UP HIGH, I DON'T KNOW, I WANNA SAY 50 FEET, A HUNDRED FEET. 
          BUT WHEN THEY SHOOT OUT, THEY COME OUT AT A, YOU KNOW, AS A, LIKE A, A TRIANGLE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND IN THE DISTANCE THAT TRIANGLE DROP DROPS THE LINE DOWN AND IT STARTS HITTING ACROSS THE TOPS OF TREES, TALL TREES, RIGHT? MM-HMM. 
          BEFORE IT STARTS RAINING DOWN, KIND OF LIKE YOU SEE IN THE MATRIX MOVIE WHERE LIKE, YOU KNOW, INFORMATION, DATA, DA DA DA DA. 
          BUT THAT WAS NEW TO ME SO I WANTED TO RAISE THAT UP TODAY. 
          AND THEN, UM, REGARDING CHERRY VALLEY, I GOT, UM, WAS INFORMED BY CITY COUNCIL MEMBER ABOUT UM, CHERRY VALLEY. 
          AND THEN I HAD ALSO, 'CAUSE I LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, A LOT OF PARENTS UPSET CHERRY VALLEY. 
          WHAT'S GOING ON AT CHERRY VALLEY? I DON'T HAVE KIDS. 
          THEY'RE GONNA CO CHOP DOWN 29 TREES. 
          REALLY? TELL ME MORE. 
          SHOW ME THE ARBORIST REPORT. 
          SHOW ME THE SITE PLANS. 
          THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY. 
          WELL THERE MUST BE ON THE SCHOOL BOARD. 
          NO, UH, WEBSITE. 
          NO, THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY. 
          SO THEN I REQUESTED FROM STAFF A FEW TIMES, CAN YOU HELP US ON ME, HELP THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THIS PROJECT? CRICKETS. 
          CRICKETS. 
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THREE TIMES I ASKED THREE TIMES CRICKETS AND THEN I SUBMITTED A PUBLIC RECORDS ACT REQUEST. 
          RIGHT. 
          THAT PRETTY MUCH PUTS THE TARGET ON YOUR BACK, UM, AS BEING A TROUBLEMAKER PERHAPS. 
          BUT, UM, THE THING IS, THERE IS NO ARBORIST REPORT AND THE DOCUMENTS THAT THEY HAVE, I MEAN, NOT THAT WE COULD SEE, AND I WILL GET ONE FROM THE PRA I'M SURE. 
          UM, BUT THE DOCUMENTS WE COULD SEE, ONE OF THEM WAS BASICALLY SAYING THAT THIS PROJECT, WHICH WILL CHOP DOWN 29 TREES IN A REALLY LOVELY AREA, RATHER THAN LOOKING AT BUILDING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CAMPUS WHERE IT'S BARREN. 
          THERE'S TWO SPOTS EQUAL AREA THAT ARE BARREN AND ONE HAS ONE TREE, I CALL IT BARREN. 
          THE OTHER ONE ALREADY HAS, UH, CLASSROOMS ON IT THAT THEY'RE GONNA TEAR DOWN. 
          THEY SAID WE DON'T NEED TO DO ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FOR FOUR REASONS. 
          AND TWO OF 'EM WERE SO SUSPECT TO ME, BUT I DON'T KNOW. 
          BUT THEY SEEMED LIKE, YOU KNOW, INVESTIGATE FURTHER. 
          ONE OF THEM SAID, ALL OF THESE TREES ARE DISEASED OR DISTRESSED. 
          RIGHT. 
          OR IN DECLINE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WELL, AT MY AGE I'M VERY HEALTHY, BUT YOU COULD SAY I'M IN DECLINE. 
          RIGHT. 
          THAT'S SO VAGUE. 
          YOU CAN'T PREDICATE EXEMPTING FROM ENVIRONMENTAL PROPER LEGAL, ENVIRONMENTAL, ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT BY DECLARING SOMETHING WITHOUT BACKING IT UP. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, I WANTED TO SEE THE ARBORIST REPORT. 
          AND THE OTHER THING, PARDON ME IF I SEEM A LITTLE EMOTIONAL, I'M JUST TRYING TO GO FAST 'CAUSE I KNOW WE'RE OVERTIME. 
          UM, THE OTHER THING IS THEY SAID WE'RE BUILDING ON A PLACE WHERE THERE'S ALREADY A BUILDING THAT'S NOT TRUE. 
          UM, SO, UH, I, WHAT COULD I SAY IS SAY, OH, LET ME SEE THE SITE PLAN, LET ME SEE THE ARBORIST REPORT. 
          AND YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT, MY GOD, I'VE GOT LIKE FIVE PARENTS AT CHERRY VALLEY EMAILING ME, TEXTING ME, CALLING ME, WHAT'S GOING ON IN. 
          THE ONLY THING I CAN SAY IS WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. 
          SCHOOL DISTRICT IS NOT, CITY SCHOOL DISTRICT IS AN ENTIRE OWN JURISDICTION. 
          THEY DON'T NEED TO ABIDE BY OUR CITY'S TREE ORDINANCE. 
          I TOLD THEM THAT FROM THE GET GO. 
          BUT YOU KNOW, THEY COULD DEMONSTRATE THAT THEY'RE GOOD NEIGHBORS. 
          THEY COULD, UH, WALK THE TALK OF THEIR, UM, PRETTY STRONG CLIMATE COMMITMENT. 
          AND I DID ATTEND A MEETING AND IT TURNS OUT THEY DID KNOW ALTERNATE SITE ANALYSIS. 
          THEY ALWAYS DECIDED THAT THEY WANTED TO BUILD INTO THE HILLSIDE RIGHT THERE WHERE THE TREE WAS FROM THE GET GO. 
          TREES ARE FROM THE GET GO. 
          THEY DID NO ALTERNATE SITE ANALYSIS. 
          IT WAS THEIR PREFERENCE TO DO SO. 
          SO A LOT OF BIG QUESTION MARKS FLOATING AROUND, NO ANSWERS. 
          MAYBE THERE WILL BE ANSWERS, BUT I BASICALLY ONLY ENGAGED IN THIS BECAUSE 29 TREES SEEMS LIKE A LOT WHEN THERE'S VACANT LAND RIGHT OVER THERE A HUNDRED FEET AWAY. 
          AND THEN, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY WAS ASKING ME AND I'M LIKE, OKAY, I'M ON THE TREE COMMITTEE, I SHOULD TRY TO HELP THEM. 
          MM-HMM  SO AGAIN, I'M NOT TRYING TO BE, THIS IS NOT A GOOD THING. 
          WE DON'T NEED NEW CLASSROOMS. I'M NOT TRYING TO SAY THEY NEED TO GO FOR COMPLYING WITH OUR TREE ORDINANCE. 
          THEY DON'T, AND THEY NEED NEW CLASSROOMS. I'M JUST TRYING TO HELP THE COMMUNITY FIND OUT ANSWERS BASED ON THE LITTLE BIT OF IN THE, YOU KNOW, OPERATIONAL KNOWLEDGE THAT I'VE COLLECTED OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS. 
          SO THAT'S THE STATUS I EXPECT TO HAVE. 
          THEY SAID I'D HAVE THE DOCUMENTS BY THE 29TH PER MY PRA AND EXPECT AT THAT TIME WE'LL HAVE SOME INFORMATION THAT SAYS, HEY, THIS IS ALL GOOD. 
          WE NEED TO DO THIS AS IS. 
          CUT DOWN THOSE TREES OR NOT. 
          THAT'S MY UPDATE. 
          WOW. 
          PHENOMENAL UPDATE. 
          UH, DIANE, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMITTEE COMMENTS? UH, FOR TECH BUSINESS? WELL, I BRAVO TO TARYN. 
          I MEAN, I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH OF HOW MUCH SHE WORKS ON, NOT ONLY ON THIS, BUT ON MANY PROJECTS SHE HAS GOING AND I FEEL LIKE IT'S, IT IS SHOWING UP. 
          YOU KNOW, SHE SHOWS UP IN WORK AND THAT'S WHY SHE GETS SO MUCH DONE. 
          AND SOMETIMES PEOPLE THINK, OH, SHE'S, YOU KNOW, OVER THERE AND SHE'S SHOWING WHATEVER, SHE'S GETTING INTO THIS WHERE SHE SHOULDN'T BE. 
          BUT YOU KNOW, AT LEAST SHE'S TRYING, AT LEAST SHE'S TRYING TO GET IN THERE AND SHE IS MAKING A DIFFERENCE. 
          AND A LOT OF PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, JUST GET A JOB AND THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING AND THEY DON'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE. 
          SO AS LONG AS PEOPLE ARE LOOKING UP TO US, YOU KNOW, TACK AND THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE THE CARETAKERS OF THE TREES, I THINK WE NEED TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT AND MORE ACTIVE, YOU KNOW, FRANKLY. 
          NO, THAT'S, THANK YOU, TARN, THAT'S A GREAT UPDATE. 
          AND I COULD LIST, UH, A LOT OF AMAZING THINGS I'VE WITNESSED TARYN DO THROUGH MY INVOLVEMENT WITH THE CITY. 
          UH, AND I WOULD JUST SAY THAT MORE BROADLY, I THINK ALL OF US CITIZENS WHO CHOOSE TO BE ENGAGED AND ESPECIALLY EVEN IF YOU'RE ON A DAIS, BUT YOU TAKE THAT HAT OFF AND YOU GO GET INVOLVED WITH AN ISSUE BECAUSE IT MATTERS, YOU CAN ALWAYS DO THAT, RIGHT? WHILE WE MAY HAVE RESTRICTIONS AROUND WHAT, WHEN CAN WE USE THE NAME TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, TAKE THAT HAT OFF 
          [01:40:01]
AND GO GET INVOLVED BECAUSE I THINK PHIL, IT'S A BIG BELIEF OF MINE PHILOSOPHICALLY THAT A LOT OF FAILINGS WE SEE IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT ALL THE WAY UP IS BECAUSE PEOPLE CHOOSE NOT TO GET INVOLVED. 
          UH, AND THAT YOU WILL EXPERIENCE RESISTANCE AS ANY OF US HAVE WHO HAVE GOTTEN INVOLVED WITH THINGS. 
          UM, BUT YES, AS TAC MEMBERS, I THINK, OR REALLY AGAIN, AS ENGAGED CITIZENS, IT IS SUCH A VALUABLE SERVICE. 
          SO KUDOS TO GETTING IN, LETTING THE COMMUNITY KNOW ABOUT THAT. 
          GOING AND SAYING SOMETHING, LIKE I SAID, IT CAN CHANGE THE DYNAMICS OF A PROJECT IMMEDIATELY. 
          UH, MY ONLY COMMITTEE UPDATE, UH, IS THAT I'LL BE MEETING IN JUNE WITH A GROUP OF, UH, TREE FOLKS IN MILL VALLEY WHO WANNA START THEIR OWN TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          AND WE'VE LOOKED AT MILL VALLEY AS ALMOST A MODEL IN MANY WAYS, BUT NOW I'M GETTING TOLD FROM THEM THAT THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES GOING ON AND THEY, HONESTLY, THEY HAVE A LOT OF IRREPLACEABLE TREE RESOURCES IN THAT AREA AND IT SEEMS LIKE THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE SOME OF THE FOUNDATIONAL THINGS THAT WE HAVE IN PETALUMA. 
          SO IT WAS INTERESTING TO CONNECT AND REALIZE THAT HEY, PETALUMA, WE'VE DONE ENOUGH TAC RELIEF, THESE GROUPS HAVE DONE ENOUGH WHERE NOW WE CAN HELP OTHER COMMUNITIES. 
          SO I'LL BE EXCITED TO, TO BRING BACK THAT UPDATE. 
          UH, WITH THAT I WILL CLOSE COMMITTEE COMMENT AND I WILL TURN 
          [STAFF COMMENT]
IT OVER TO JEN. 
          I KNOW WE'RE OVER TIME, BUT I'LL TURN IT OVER TO JEN FOR A STAFF COMMENT. 
          THANK YOU CHAIR. 
          RAKUTEN, I, YOU KNOW, IN THE, TO SAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT UH, WE HAD A BIG, YOU KNOW, WIND, STORM, STORM, WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT OVER THE WEEKEND. 
          AND OUR PARKS TREES, UH, DID VERY, VERY WELL. 
          NO LOSSES OF TREES, JUST A FEW LIMBS HERE AND THERE. 
          SO WE'RE DOING GOOD. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY BUSY RIGHT NOW TAKING CARE, CARE OF TREES ALL OVER AND WORKING WITH RELIEF, BUT I, YOU KNOW, HAVE ALL SORTS OF THINGS, BUT I'LL LEAVE IT THERE. 
          WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE, UH, AS FAR AS NOT LOSING ANY TREES OVER THE WEEKEND. 
          WELL THAT'S FANTASTIC. 
          AND IT'S CLEAR, JEN, YOU HAVE JUMPED IN BOTH FEET INTO PETALUMA AND WE ARE SO GRATEFUL FOR IT. 
          UH, AND WITH THAT, I'LL THANK ALL OF OUR MEMBERS AND I WILL ADJOURN OUR MEETING AT FIVE 12. 
          THANK YOU.
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