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WE WILL CALL TO ORDER, AND THEN I'LL TAKE A DEEP BREATH AFTER WE CALL FOR ATTENDANCE.
ALL RIGHT, SO IT IS 6 0 5 AND WE WILL DO QUICK ROLL CALL.
CHAIR DIETRICH IS HERE, BUT TARDY COMMISSIONER MARAND.
I BELIEVE HE HAD A ANOTHER COMMITMENT TONIGHT.
AND WE DON'T HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER DI CARLY TONIGHT.
UH, DO WE HAVE ANY GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT? ALL RIGHT.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
DO WE HAVE ANY, UM, AMENDMENTS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES THAT WERE PROVIDED FOR OUR LAST MEETING? ALL RIGHT.HEARING NONE, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
ALL IN FAVOR APPROVING MINUTES.
THANK YOU CLAUDIA, AS ALWAYS FOR KEEPING US ON TRACK WITH THAT.
SO WE HAVE, UM, I BELIEVE WE HAVE A MATTER.
IT, IT'S HARD TO SEE, BUT IT'S RIGHT ALL,
[AIRPORT AND FEE SCHEDULE WORKSHOP]
OH, AIRPORT AND FEE SCHEDULE WORKSHOP.I THOUGHT THAT WAS GONNA BE IN OUR PUBLIC HEARING THE MATTER FOR DISCUSSION, BUT NO, I, OKAY.
SO WE WILL CIRCLE BACK UP TO THAT.
UM, AIRPORT AND FEE SCHEDULE WORKSHOP.
UM, BEFORE WE JUMP INTO THAT WORKSHOP, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT FEEDBACK CAME FROM.
BEFORE WE JUMP INTO THE WORKSHOP, I, UM, HAVE TWO, TWO ANNOUNCEMENTS.
ONE IS TO INTRODUCE OUR NEW AIRPORT AND MARINA MANAGER, UH, DASHELL PHILLIPS, IE DASH PHILLIPS.
AND, UH, DASH AND I WILL, YOU KNOW, BE HERE TOGETHER FOR THIS MEETING AND NEXT.
AND, AND, UH, IN TIME, HE'LL, HE'LL BE HERE AS YOUR, YOUR PRIMARY LIAISON, BUT WE'RE SORT OF COONING RIGHT NOW.
AND, UM, UH, SO DASH HAS BEEN HERE TWO REALLY QUICK WEEKS, UH, TWO WEEKS AND A DAY.
AND, UH, IT'S, IT'S BEEN, UH, A LITTLE BIT OF A BLUR, BUT I'LL LET YOU DO A QUICK INTRO AND SAY HI TO, UH, THE COMMISSIONERS AND TO ANYONE WHO'S WATCHING THIS OR WATCHING A RECORDING OF THIS AND THE PUBLIC SO THEY KNOW WHO YOU ARE.
I'M THE NEW AIRPORT MARINA MANAGER.
I, UH, I COME FROM NOS FIELD AFTER SPENDING SEVEN YEARS WORKING AT THE FBO THERE.
UH, FOUR OF THOSE WAS RUNNING THE FBO FOR THE AIRPORT.
UM, I HAVE MY CM, WHICH IS THE CERTIFIED MEMBER STATUS WITH THE A A E, WHICH IS THE SECOND HIGHEST STATUS THAT YOU CAN GET, UM, AS A MEMBER OF THE AE, WHICH IS THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF AIRPORT EXECUTIVES.
UM, AND I COME HERE TO REALLY LIVE OUT MY DREAM JOB AND BEING AT, YOU KNOW, MY LOCAL AIRPORT.
AND I AM MORE THAN EXCITED TO BE HERE AND, YOU KNOW, FINALLY BEING ABLE TO SERVE YOU GUYS.
REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE YOU ON BOARD.
AND THEN THE NEXT, THE NEXT ANNOUNCEMENT IS, IS NOT, IS NOT QUITE SO JOYOUS.
IT'S A LITTLE SAD THAT, UM, THIS IS GOING TO BE OUR LAST MEETING WITH THOMAS MCGRAW IN ATTENDANCE.
SO, UM, TOM, YOU'VE BEEN JUST SUCH A STALWART PRESENCE ON THIS COMMISSION FOR HOW MANY YEARS? I'M 27.
I KNEW IT WAS IN THE TWENTIES, BUT I DIDN'T WANNA GET IT WRONG.
UM, AND WE ARE SO APPRECIATIVE OF ALL OF YOUR ENERGY AND EFFORT AND PASSION AND CONTRIBUTIONS TO THIS GROUP, AND I KNOW EACH OF THE COMMISSIONERS WILL PROBABLY WANNA SAY SOMETHING AS WELL WHEN, WHEN THE TURN COMES.
BUT I WANTED TO PERSONALLY THANK YOU AND ACKNOWLEDGE.
THIS IS YOUR LAST MEETING, MY SECOND RETIREMENT
ANY, UH, ANYTHING YOU WANNA ADD IN HERE REAL QUICK BEFORE I GET OFF ON A WORKSHOP? UM, YEAH, I'LL, I'LL DO THAT NOW.
UM, BACK IN THE DAY, UM, WHEN I FINALLY, UM, PASSED MY PRIVATE PILOT
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CHECK RIDE, UM, WITH THE FLIGHT SCHOOL, YOUR PREDECESSOR, BUT THE SAME PEOPLE INVOLVED, UM, AND I SAW THE, UM, ORIGINAL AIRPORT.I WAS ONE OF THE LAST STUDENTS TO SOLO OFF THE SKY RANCH AIRPORT, UM, AND THEN MOVED OVER TO THE NEW ONE.
AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH ALL THAT RUNWAY.
BUT ANYWAY, I WAS IMPRESSED WITH THE COMMITMENT OF THE ORIGINAL, UM, AIRPORT COMMITTEE THAT WAS FORMED BACK, I BELIEVE, IN 1980.
UM, AND THEY REALIZED THAT WITH THE EXPANSION DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY AND ALL, AND THE ENCROACHMENT ON THE SKY RANCH, THAT IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN, UM, A VIABLE, EFFECTIVE AIRPORT NEEDED TO BUILD A NEW ONE.
SO A GROUP OF THE ORIGINAL PILOTS, AND THEY FORMED PETALUMA PILOTS ASSOCIATION AT THAT TIME, MAYBE A LITTLE BEFORE THAT.
UM, WENT THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS WORKING WITH THE CITY, THE FAA, THE STATE TO GET THE NEW AIRPORT BUILT IN PHASES, UM, AND TO MOVE AS MUCH OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN TERMS OF HANGERS THAT WERE AT THE OLD SKY RANCH AIRPORT, MOVE THEM OVER TO THE NEW, INTEGRATE EVERYTHING TOGETHER.
AND THEY DID IT EFFECTIVELY AND COMMITTED TO THE CITY THAT THE AIRPORT WOULD REMAIN FINANCIALLY VIABLE AND NOT END UP HAVING TO TAKE, UM, TAX REVENUE FROM THE CITY GENERAL FUND TO COVER THE EXPENSES AT THE AIRPORT.
IT WAS GOING TO BE FULLY FINANCIALLY, SELF-SUPPORTING.
AND THEY DID AN AMAZING JOB OF ASSESSING OTHER AIRPORTS IN THE AREA.
UM, WHAT, AND THEY WENT AND INTERVIEWED THE PILOTS AND THE AIRPORT MANAGERS.
WHAT WAS IT THAT MADE YOUR AIRPORT A SUCCESS OR NOT? AND THEY LEARNED A LOT FROM THAT.
AND SO THEY TOOK ALL OF THAT, INTEGRATED IT INTO THE NEW DESIGN.
WELL, THAT LEGACY OF EXCELLENCE AND SUPPORT REALLY, UM, GOT MY INTEREST AND I THOUGHT, I WANT TO BE A PART OF KEEPING THAT GOING.
AND I FELT WITH MY PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE AND, AND ALL, UM, I'D BE ABLE TO ADD SOME VALUE.
AND OVER THE YEARS, ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN ON THE COMMISSION, I DON'T THINK, WITH AN EXCEPTION, HAVE BEEN COMMITTED TO MAINTAINING THAT LEGACY OF EFFECTIVENESS AND, UH, ENSURING THE ONGOING VIABILITY AND SUCCESS AND EXCELLENCE THAT PETALUMA MUNICIPAL AIRPORT IS, WAS, AND IS.
AND I'M SO APPRECIATIVE OF ALL OF YOU AND YOUR COMMITMENT TO DO THE SAME AND TO CONTINUE THAT LEGACY GOING.
UH, AND UM, I KNOW I TOLD YOU THIS BEFORE, BUT YEARS BACK, JUST AFTER WE FINISHED THE LAST HANGAR EXPANSION EXPANSION, I THINK IT WAS IN 2006, UM, ONE OF OUR PILOTS, UM, WAS GOING TO BE AWARDED THE A OPA SWEEPSTAKES AIRCRAFT FOR THAT YEAR.
AND HE HAD JUST RE JUST IN THE PROCESS OF RETIRING FROM TWO ROCK COAST GUARD STATION AS A C ONE 30 SEARCH AND RESCUE PILOT, AND HE WANTED AN AIRPLANE, TAKE HIS FAMILY PLACES.
WELL, GUESS WHAT? A OPA CAME UP WITH ONE FOR HIM.
AND A OPA CAME OUT, THE PRESIDENT OF A OPA AT THE TIME, PHIL BOYER, FLEW OUT WITH A FILM CREW AND HIS WIFE AND IN THEIR CORPORATE JET, SO TO SPEAK.
AND I TOLD HIM, I'LL MEET YOU HERE AT THE AIRPORT AND I'LL GET YOU PARKED.
SO WE DID THAT, AND PHIL LOWERED THE AIR STAIR, GOT OUT OF THE AIRCRAFT AND STOOD ON THE RAMP AND JUST SORT OF DID A SLOW 360.
I THOUGHT, WHAT'S UP WITH THIS? AND HE SAID, THIS IS AMAZING.
AND HE SAID, WHAT THIS, WHAT THIS AIRPORT WHATCHA TALKING ABOUT? 'CAUSE I'D BEEN THROUGH STRUGGLES, OKAY, TO GET THE HANGAR PROJECT BUILT.
AND HE SAYS, NO, LOOK AT THIS.
YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE ON THE RAMP, YOU'VE GOT HANGERS, YOU JUST FINISHED, AND THEY'RE FULL.
YOU'VE GOT SUPPORT FROM CITY STAFF AND CITY COUNCIL.
YOU'VE GOT AN ACTIVE PILOT CLUB.
PETALUMA MUNICIPAL IS THE AIRPORT THAT OTHERS SHOULD ASPIRE TO BECOME.
AND I WENT, WHOA, THAT'S COOL.
NEXT MONTH IN THE A OPA PILOT MAGAZINE, THERE WAS AN ARTICLE, PETALUMA MUNICIPAL, THE AIRPORT, OTHERS SHOULD ASPIRE TO BECOME.
SO THAT'S REALLY MOTIVATED ME TO KEEP THE LEGACY GOING, AND IT'S SO GREAT TO SEE YOU ALL KEEPING THAT GOING TOO AND BEING DEDICATED TO THAT, USING YOUR SKILLS AND EXPERIENCE TO CONTINUE ENSURING THAT THIS AIRPORT IS ONE OF THE BEST IN THE COUNTRY.
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AND GINA, THANKS FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND WELCOME, DASH.BUT YOU'LL FIND A LOT OF SUPPORT FROM THESE FOLKS.
AND, UM, I'M GONNA MISS DOING THIS, BUT THEN I CAN SLEEP AGAIN OCCASIONALLY, SO THAT'S COOL.
UM, SO KICKING OFF, UM, THE WORKSHOP NOW, UH, ONE, ONE, PREFACE REMARK.
I WANNA MENTION THAT WE HAVE AN EXTRA GUEST OR TWO THIS EVENING FROM CITY STAFF, UH, REPRESENTING OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
WHENEVER WE, UM, ARE CONSIDERING REGULATORY GUIDELINES, UM, I, I REALLY LIKE TO HAVE THEIR SUPPORT AND, UH, HAVE THEM AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO SOME THINGS THAT ARE ABSOLUTELY OUT OF, OUT OF MY WHEELHOUSE.
SO, UH, I'VE INVITED ERIC DANLEY, OUR CITY ATTORNEY, AND, UH, WENDY DOW IS IN OUR AUDIENCE, OUR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
AND, UH, THANK YOU BOTH FOR BEING HERE AND AVAILABLE.
SO THE, THE WORKSHOP I DID NOT, UM, I DID NOT PUT TOGETHER A PRESENTATION, A SLIDESHOW FOR THIS.
UH, IT REALLY IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, IS, UH, A CONVERSATION THAT I WANNA TEE UP THAT I WANT TO HELP THE COMMISSION, UM, UM, DISCUSS.
AND, UM, BASICALLY DAYLIGHT THE CONCERNS, TALK ABOUT THEM IN, IN THIS PUBLIC FORUM.
AND, UM, AND I'M EXPECTING THAT AT THE END OF, OF THIS DISCUSSION, UH, THERE WILL BE SOME DIRECTION, VERY LIKELY AND SUGGESTIONS FOR STAFF FOR FOLLOW UP, AND IT WILL BE COMING BACK FOR, UM, FOR FURTHER CONVERSATION.
AND AT, AND VERY LIKELY AT SOME POINT, SOME MATERIALS THAT WE'LL WANNA PRESENT ON.
BUT AS DASH IS COMING UP TO SPEED, AND WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER, UH, UM, AND PUTTING TOGETHER THE INFORMATION, I REALLY, AS YOU SAW FROM THE STAFF REPORT, UH, REALLY WANTED TO JUST ESTABLISH THE, THE BASIS OF CONCERNS THAT THERE'S CONCERNS OUT THERE, AND THAT THERE'S, UH, AND THE CONCERNS HAVE TO DO WITH, UM, A FEW THINGS.
SOME, UH, UH, MAYBE SOME AGREEMENTS THAT HISTORICALLY HAVE BEEN INFORMAL AND NOT AS TRANSPARENT, UH, AS WE, AS WE WOULD COLLECTIVELY LIKE, AND THAT THERE ARE, UM, AND THAT THERE ARE CONCERNS, UH, ABOUT MEETING THE, UM, CONDITIONS OF THE FAA GRANT ASSURANCES AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THOSE AND CAN DEFEND, UM, OUR POLICIES.
AND IF WE NEED TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE AND MAKE SOME CHANGES MOVING FORWARD, THIS IS THE GREAT WAY, GREAT WAY TO START THAT CONVERSATION.
SO, UM, UH, I, UM, I, AT THE END OF THE STAFF REPORT, I SUMMARIZED SOME KEY TOPICS, UH, FOR DISCUSSION.
AND, UM, AND THERE'S FIVE BULLET POINTS HERE.
SO, UM, THE, UH, USE OF CITY, UH, OF THE AIRPORT PROPERTY BY CITY DEPARTMENTS FOR STORAGE TRAINING AND OPERATIONAL ACTIVITIES, TALKING ABOUT, ABOUT THE, THOSE ARRANGEMENTS.
UM, HISTORICAL SERVICE FOR SERVICE ARRANGEMENTS AND, UM, AND MAKING SURE THAT THESE ARE EQUITABLE AND DOCUMENTED AND TRANSPARENT.
UM, AGAIN, THE DESIRE FOR TRANSPARENCY AND, UM, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE, THAT WE HAVE A RECORD OF SERVICES THAT THE AIRPORT'S PROVIDING THE VALUE OF THOSE SERVICES AND THE COMPENSATION FOR THOSE, UH, AND THAT THAT'S A TWO WAY STREET TOO.
SO WE, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO BE CONSIDERING, UM, CONSIDERING, UH, A FEW THINGS WHEN WE HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
UM, AND THEN, UM, AGAIN, OF COURSE, EVERYTHING IN THE, WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF BEING COMPLIANT WITH THE GRANT ASSURANCES AND, UM, AND THE, THEIR GUIDANCE REGARDING SELF SUSTAINABILITY THAT TOM HAD ALLUDED TO, IN FACT, JUST NOW.
AND, AND THEN LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE RATES THAT WE'RE CHARGING FOR NON AERONAUTICAL USES, AND IF, IF WE'RE CHARGING THOSE EQUITABLY AND TRANSPARENTLY.
AND THEN, UM, MOVING FORWARD, MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE A CONSISTENT FRAMEWORK, UM, AND RECOGNIZING THE OPERATIONAL NEEDS OF THE CITY AND FINDING, YOU KNOW, UH, FINDING A WAY TO, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WE'RE, THAT WE'RE PARTNERING AND MOVING FORWARD IN A WAY THAT IS EQUITABLE.
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THAT'S MY TEE UP FOR THIS DISCUSSION.AND WITH THAT SAID, UM, UH, UH, I WOULD, UM, I WOULD PROBABLY TURN IT OVER, ANNA, TO THE, TO YOU THE CHAIR TO START THAT CONVERSATION OFF.
YOU MAY WANT TO GO COMMISSIONER BY COMMISSIONER FOR SOME THOUGHTS AND FEEDBACKS AND FOCUS AREAS, UM, AND, UH, TO OUR CITY ATTORNEY, ERIC, IF YOU WANNA MAKE ANY, UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS TO AUGMENT MY, MY INTRODUCTION, YOU'RE WELCOME TO DO THAT AS WELL.
UM, GOOD EVENING, CHAIR AND, UM, COMMISSIONERS.
UM, PLEASURE TO BE HERE WITH YOU TONIGHT.
UH, BEFORE TONIGHT'S MEETING, UM, WE DID SOME REVIEW.
UM, WE, UH, LOOKED AT, UM, AT SOME, SOME EMAILS RAISING SOME, UM, QUESTIONS ABOUT, UM, NON AERONAUTICAL USES OF THE AIRPORT, UM, AND THE FEE STRUCTURE FOR AIRPORT USE.
SO WE LOOKED A LITTLE BIT AT THE ASSURANCES, UM, THAT WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR FULFILLING AS A FAA GRANTEE AND ALSO THE FAA REGULATIONS REGARDING NON AERONAUTICAL USES.
UM, AND WE'RE ALSO FAMILIAR WITH THE CITY'S MASTER FEE SCHEDULE.
UM, I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT FOR A LONG TIME, UM, OVERALL ACCOUNTING OF, UM, THE, THE FINANCES OF THE AIRPORT.
UM, AS, UM, HAS BEEN MENTIONED TONIGHT, IT WAS ALWAYS DESIGNED TO OPERATE, UM, AS A SELF-SUSTAINING UTILITY TYPE PART OF THE CITY.
UM, AND I BELIEVE IT, IT'S DONE THAT.
UM, BUT IN TERMS OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE NOW AND THE DETAILS, UM, AND THE, UM, FEES THAT ARE RECOVERED AND NOT RECOVERED, UM, SOMETIMES THESE, UM, THESE QUESTIONS NEED TO BE CONSIDERED IN, IN THE CONTEXT OF THE, OF SOME OF THOSE DETAILS.
UM, AND, AND I DON'T KNOW IF, IF STAFF GINA, YOU'VE LOOKED AT THAT OR THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE, BUT, UM, BUT OUR FINANCE PARTNER DEPARTMENT WILL HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
UM, AND IT PROBABLY WILL BE A GOOD PART OF THIS EXERCISE AT SOME POINT TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
UM, AND WE'LL BE ALLOWED TO HELP WITH MAKING SURE THAT THE AIRPORT, LIKE ALL OF OUR CITY REAL ESTATE IS OPERATING AND BEING DEPLOYED AS FLEXIBLY AND EFFECTIVELY AS IT CAN, BUT ALSO IN FULL COMPLIANCE WITH, UM, THE, OUR, OUR, OUR GRANT OBLIGATIONS, THE LAWS, IT APPLIES TO, UM, TO RATES AND FEES BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL LAYERS WE HAVE TO COMPLY WITH IN ADDITION, UM, TO THOSE THAT ARE MENTIONED IN THE FIA REGULATIONS UNDER STATE LAW.
UM, SO THERE ARE QUESTIONS THAT COME UP TONIGHT OR LATER.
WE'LL BE HAPPY TO HELP THE AIRPORT TEAM ADDRESS THOSE AND RESPOND TO QUESTIONS THAT COMMISSIONERS MAY HAVE.
SO GERALD, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU TO BEGIN THE DISCUSSION.
AND I APPRECIATE, UM, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE MAKING TIME TO TALK THROUGH THIS AND, UM, APPRECIATE THE ATTENTION TO THE MATTER.
IT'S BEEN SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN COMING UP FOR QUITE SOME TIME OFF AND ON.
UM, AND I, I DO WANNA SORT OF, YOU KNOW, REITERATE THE INTENTION FOR COLLABORATION AND FOR BEING A TEAM PLAYER WITH THE REST OF, OF THE CITY.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS ISN'T ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, NICKEL AND DIMMING OR COUNTING BEAMS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
THIS IS JUST ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT, UH, WHERE WE DO HAVE, UM, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MUTUAL ASSISTANCE, THAT, UH, WE'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF IT IN A WAY THAT MEETS OUR OBLIGATIONS AS AN AIRPORT.
AND THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO BE TRACKING THINGS, UM, ON ONE SIDE OF THE BALANCE SHEET OR, OR ONE SIDE OF THE P AND L WITH MORE PRECISION THAN THE OTHER, THAT THAT'S NOT OKAY.
WE NEED TO APPLY THE SAME LITTLE PRECISION TO BOTH SIDES.
UM, SO THAT'S, THAT WAS SORT OF THE MOTIVATION FOR THIS.
UM, NOT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, JEFF, BUT IF YOU, SOMETHING THAT YOU'VE BEEN CHAMPIONING FOR A WHILE, SO IF YOU WANTED TO ADD ANYTHING TO THAT.
NO, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE IT OVER.
AND THANK YOU, GINA, FOR SUMMARIZING THIS.
I MEAN, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR, SO YOU DID A GREAT JOB PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.
AND IT PRETTY MUCH COVERS ALL POINTS.
UM, THE ONLY THING THAT I'LL SAY IS, REITERATE WHAT ANNA SAID, THAT WE WANT TO BE A PARTNER WITH THE CITY AND BE FLEXIBLE WHERE WE CAN.
I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, AS CITY STAFF TURNS OVER OVER THE YEARS, I THINK THE BIGGEST GOAL FOR TONIGHT IS ESTABLISHING OUR RESPONSIBILITIES UNDER THE GRAND ASSURANCES AND COMING TO AN AGREEMENT THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE ARE, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO NON AERONAUTICAL USE FOR STORAGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT, UM, WE ARE REQUIRED TO CHARGE MARKET RATES AND FEES FOR THOSE SERVICES.
AND THEN IDENTIFYING WHAT THOSE ARE.
I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE, UH, SOME OF THESE RATES, THEY'RE NOT ON THE MASTER FEE SCHEDULE.
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DON'T THINK WE HAVE NON AERONAUTICAL RATES ON THE MASTER FEE SCHEDULE.SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING, UM, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE IDENTIFY WHAT THESE CHARGES SHOULD BE, UM, IS THEN, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH COUNSEL TO ADD THOSE, UM, TO THE MASTER FEE SCHEDULE OR WHATEVER PROCESS NEEDS TO HAPPEN TO MAKE THAT POSSIBILITY.
SO THAT, UH, WHEN THESE THINGS DO COME UP IN THE FUTURE, WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOME APPROPRIATE RATES AND CHARGES TO, UM, TO GO OFF OF.
SO, UM, TURN IT BACK OVER TO YOU, ANNA, AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE THAT WANTS TO ADD.
DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY, ANY CONVERSATION, COMMENTS FOR THE BEGINNING OF THE CONVERSATION HERE? UM, I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP THAT, UM, THE, UH, PAPA MEMBERSHIP AS, UH, TALKED ABOUT A COUPLE OF TIMES, THE, UH, USE OF THAT FRONT AREA BY THE CITY, AND IT WOULD BE NICE TO KNOW WHAT THE AIRPORT IS GETTING FROM THAT, BECAUSE IT'S
IT'S NOT CLEAR, AND IT CAN AT TIMES LOOK LIKE AN EYESORE.
YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THE TYPE OF THING WE'RE LOOKING TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEAR ABOUT.
UH, I HAD A QUESTION, AND ERIC, MAYBE, OR MR. DANLEY, MAYBE YOU'D BE ABLE TO HELP ME WITH THIS.
I KNOW THERE IS A, UH, DEADLINE FOR, UH, UPDATES TO THE FEE SCHEDULE ARE ONLY DONE ANNUALLY.
IS THAT CORRECT? AND I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT THE TIMEFRAME IS FOR THAT.
THE, THE, THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT PREFERS TO DO THAT ONE TIME A YEAR.
UHHUH
THAT'S PROBABLY NOT THEIR PREFERENCE, BUT, YOU KNOW, UM, I THINK, I THINK THAT'S HAPPENED.
PART OF THE REASON FOR THAT IS THEY, UM, THEY COMMISSION A RATE STUDY FROM A, FROM A, A RATE CONSULTING FIRM TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PRO, UM, APPLYING CONSISTENT ME METHODOLOGY IN CALCULATING THE RATES MM-HMM
UM, AND SO THAT THEY'RE, THEY MEET THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS WE HAVE.
AND, AND THAT'S A GOOD SORT OF SEGUE TO TALK ABOUT THE ISSUE THAT COMES UP IN THE, ALSO IN THE FA, A GUIDANCE ABOUT MARKET RATES.
BECAUSE, UM, WHEN I MENTIONED THAT WE HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL STATE LAW REQUIREMENTS WE HAVE TO SATISFY, UM, AS A CITY, WE DON'T REALLY GET TO CHARGE MARKET RATES.
WE ARE SUBJECT TO, UM, WHEN WE'RE RECOVERING THE COST OF PROVIDING A SERVICE, PROVIDING THE REASONABLE COST OF PROVIDING THE SERVICE, WE DON'T GET TO MAKE A, A RETURN ON, ON OUR COSTS.
UM, IN THE OLD DAYS, UM, ESPECIALLY SOME, SOME OF THE ENTERPRISES, UM, USED TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
BUT, UM, PROP 26, PROP TWO 18 ALL DID AWAY WITH THAT.
AND SO THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WHY, UM, THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, UH, MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PRI APPLYING CONSISTENT CRITERIA THAT WE'RE USING THE SAME, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, UM, UM, FULLY LOADED STAFF RATES WHEN WE'RE COVERING STAFF TIME.
UM, AND, UM, THINGS LIKE CPI, ADJUSTMENTS, ET CETERA, ARE CONSISTENT.
SO, UM, SO I, I GUESS WHAT I WOULD SAY IS TO THE EXTENT WE IDENTIFY AIRPORT USES THAT DON'T HAVE RATES ATTACHED, UM, WE CAN IDENTIFY THOSE, ESPECIALLY TO THE EXTENT THEY'RE, THEY'RE CONTINUING ONES OR ONES WE ANTICIPATE IN THE FUTURE SO THAT WE CAN START THE PROCESS, UM, WHETHER WE DO IT, YOU KNOW, OFF CYCLE OR ON CYCLE TO, UM, TO ADDRESS THOSE.
DO YOU KNOW WHEN WE WOULD NEED TO, IF WE WANTED TO MAKE IT EASY FOR THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT? I DON'T THINK, JUST DIDN'T WANNA, UM, AND, AND UNFORTUNATELY I JUST SAID BYE TO COREY AS I CAME IN.
I DIDN'T THINK TO ASK, BUT, UM, MAYBE I CAN DO SOME CHECKING OKAY.
UM, BUT I'LL, I'LL SEE IF I CAN FIND THAT.
I, I NOTICED THE CURRENT FEE SCHEDULE WAS EFFECTIVE JULY 1ST, 2025.
I THINK THEY KEY IT TO OUR FISCAL YEAR, BUT, BUT AS TO WHEN THEY, AND THE STUDY'S DONE WITH SOME LEAD TIME, AND I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH, BUT I'LL, I CHECK AND I, I THINK THAT THIS HAS RECENTLY COME ALREADY TO COUNSEL.
WE MAY HAVE MISSED THE, THE SHIP FOR 27 1.
BUT, UM, THERE IS A POSSIBILITY IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE FEEL WE CAN MAKE A CASE TO ADDRESS, UM, YOU KNOW, BEFORE ANOTHER YEAR GOES BY, THEN WE'LL DO THAT.
AND I HAD, UH, ONE QUESTION WITH REGARD TO, UM, SOME OF THE PROP, THE CALIFORNIA PROPOSITIONS THAT MAY LIMIT THE CHARGES, IF IT CONFLICTS WITH FA, A GUIDANCE, WOULD FEDERAL SUPREMACY NOT APPLY IN THAT SITUATION? UM, THE, IT COULD, UM, BUT I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THE,
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THE, UM, ONE OF THE MAXIMS OF THE LAW IS TO HARMONIZE THOSE DIFFERENT BODIES OF LAW WHENEVER WE CAN.UM, AND I HAVE NOT HEARD OF, OF AN EXCEPTION OR A PREEMPTION DOCTRINE IN TERMS OF THE WELL-ESTABLISHED, UM, UM, PROPOSITIONS THAT LIMIT, UM, LOCAL GOVERNMENT COST RECOVERY AND FEE RECOVERY.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN RESEARCH.
UM, BUT I THINK WHEN, WHEN ONE READS THESE REGULATIONS, WHAT ONE SEES IS THAT THEIR PURPOSE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THE AIR, THE LARGELY FEDERALLY FUNDED AIRPORTS ARE BEING USED FOR THEIR INTENDED PURPOSES, THEY'RE OPERATING SELF SUFFICIENTLY.
I THINK BY DEFINITION, IF WE DO A, A COST RECOVERY AND FEE ANALYSIS, AND WE DETERMINE RATES THAT KEEP THE AIRPORT WHOLE FOR USES THAT ARE NON AERONAUTICAL, THAT THAT IT'S GONNA BE, THAT'S GONNA BE CONSISTENT WITH ITSELF SUFFICIENCY, UM, ESPECIALLY IF THE REST OF THE PROGRAMS ARE, ARE FUNDING AIRPORT OPERATIONS.
BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT.
AND, AND CONSIDER, I, I, YEAH, I THINK THAT'S WORTH LOOKING INTO FURTHER.
UM, THIS PARTICULAR NICHE IS NOT MY AREA OF FOCUS, BUT IN MANY OTHER AREAS WHERE THERE'S A CONFLICT BETWEEN FAA AND STATE OR LOCAL LAW, FA IS CLEARLY PREEMPTION HAS CLEAR PREEMPTION.
SO, UM, HOPEFULLY IT DOESN'T COME TO TO THAT, BUT, UM, I WOULD, THIS COULD ALWAYS BE AN EXCEPTION, BUT IT WOULD DEFINITELY BE AN EXCEPTION.
SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT, I'M, I'M STRUGGLING A LITTLE BIT HERE BECAUSE I APPRECIATE THAT WE WANTED TO GET OUR HANDS AROUND THE ISSUE.
WE WANNA CLARIFY WHAT THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE BEING ASKED ARE.
UM, AND I MAY HAVE JUST HAD A, A MISUNDERSTANDING ABOUT WHAT THE PURPOSE OF OUR CONVERSATION TONIGHT WAS.
I, I WAS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAD ACCOMMODATED A DELAY IN GETTING THIS ON THE AGENDA UNTIL AFTER OUR NEW MANAGER HAD STARTED ON THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT WAS GONNA BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR GINA AND FOR NOW DASH TO GET THEIR HEADS AROUND THE ACTUAL NUMBERS AND, AND SORT HAVING DONE A LITTLE BIT OF AN AUDIT AND LOOKING INTO WHAT, WHAT THIS ACTUALLY ENTAILS IN ANSWERING SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS AND LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE KEY ISSUES.
SO WHILE I APPRECIATE THE NEED FOR THE CLARITY OF THE ACTION ITEM IN THE REQUEST, UM, I THOUGHT WE HAD HANDLED THIS PRIOR TO THIS MEETING OFFLINE AND FROM OUR CONVERSATION, I, I CONFESS, I, I MUST HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU WERE INTENDING TO SHARE WITH US TONIGHT.
SO I WAS EXPECTING AN ACTUAL COUNTING OF WHAT WE WERE AWARE OF IN THESE CATEGORIES TO DATE.
UM, NOT JUST THE LIST OF THE ISSUES.
SO I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE WHAT ELSE YOU NEED FROM US.
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO BE MORE CLEAR ABOUT THAT.
WE WANT THE BREAKOUT OF THE FINANCIALS AND OF THE USES THAT THE CITY AND THE AIRPORT ARE SHARING.
UM, SO LINE ITEMS WHERE IT'S, YOU KNOW, TRADING MONEY BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE CITY ACCOUNTS AND THE AIRPORT ACCOUNT, THOSE ARE COMPLETELY OPAQUE.
THERE'S NO DETAIL IN WHAT WERE PROVIDED FOR THAT.
UM, THE USAGE AT THE FRONT OF THE AIRPORT, THOSE SPECIFIC PIECES WERE WHAT I THINK WE WERE, WHAT I, I'LL SPEAK SOLELY FIRST PERSON, WHAT I WAS EXPECTING FOR US TO BE ABLE TO COVER IN THIS CONTEXT.
SO, UM, I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR THE POINT OR WASTE ANYONE'S TIME HERE, BUT UNLESS I'M GROSSLY MISTAKEN, WHICH HAS HAPPENED BEFORE, UM, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO SPEND A LOT MORE TIME TALKING ABOUT THE INTENTION HERE, AND WE REALLY WOULD LIKE TO GET INTO THE SPECIFICS.
THAT, THAT'S, UM, UNDERSTANDABLE.
UM, SO ONE OF THE EXAMPLES THAT'S COME UP IS, IS SOMETHING THAT'S HAPPENED IN THE PAST ARE AM ARE, DO YOU WANT ME TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT, AT, AT LIKE THE ARRANGEMENT UP IN THE, IN THE, UH, HERE, IT'S ON THE SCREEN, UM, IN THE, YEAH.
I'M GONNA INVITE JEFF TO, TO CORRECT ME HERE IF I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR, FOR OUR INTENTION AS A BODY HERE.
BUT, UM, I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT'S MUCH, IT'S LESS ABOUT LOOKING BACKWARDS AND, YOU KNOW, LOOKING FOR WAYS TO, TO FIND FAULT OR, OR CAUSE PROBLEMS FROM, FROM A HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE AND MUCH MORE ABOUT ENSURING THAT WE HAVE APPROPRIATE CONTROLS GOING FORWARD AND THAT, THAT, THAT THINK THAT DOCUMENTATION IS, IS SOLID.
UM, WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF A FISCAL YEAR, AS HAS BEEN POINTED OUT.
SO I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO TIDY THINGS UP FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR AND USE THAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN WHAT WOULD'VE MADE THAT EASIER TO DO FROM THE GET GO.
SO THAT AS WE ROLL INTO THE NEXT ONE, WE ARE CURRENT WITH, WITH THESE QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS GOING FORWARD.
SO, UM, SO, SO CURRENT USES AND ASSOCIATED, UM, ASSOCIATED, UM, COSTS AND, AND OR RECOVERY, RIGHT.
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AT HISTORICAL FOR THINGS THAT MAY COME UP AGAIN IN THE FUTURE.YEAH, I MEAN, I'M NOT LOOKING TO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING BACK TO TRY AND RECOVER THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, ARE OVER LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE FRONT OF THE AIRPORT.
IN FACT, YOU KNOW, WE MAY DECIDE THAT THAT'S JUST NOT AN APPROPRIATE USE FOR THAT AREA GIVEN THE NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS THAT HAS GENERATED OVER THE YEARS.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE, UH, STORAGE OF, YOU KNOW, FIRE EQUIPMENT AND HANGERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT IF, IF WE ARE GONNA ENTERTAIN THAT IN THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD THE COST BE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? SAME THING WITH STORING RVS OUT THERE.
AND I'M, AGAIN, I'M NOT SURE THAT'S AN APPROPRIATE USE OF AIRPORT PROPERTY AS IT IS 'CAUSE IT CAN GENERATE OTHER ISSUES.
UM, BUT IF WE ARE GONNA DO IT, HAVING SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, COMING TO AN AGREEMENT ON WHAT THAT FEE SHOULD BE, GETTING IT ON THE MASTER FEE SCHEDULE SO THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO CHARGE THE FEES IF, IF AND WHEN WE NEED TO, I THINK WAS KIND OF THE GOAL.
AND CURRENTLY IN THE MASTER FEE SCHEDULE, THE ONLY NON AERONAUTICAL FEE WE, WE DOCUMENT AND LIST IS FOR, UH, GROUND LEASE.
AND IT'S 76 CENTS PER SQUARE FOOT.
AND THAT'S BASED ON, UH, THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR'S, UH, UM, MASTER FEE SCHEDULE.
UM, AND THAT'S, THAT'S CURRENTLY ON THE BOOKS.
AND I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHEN THAT WAS LAST UPDATED.
AND SO THE LIST I HAVE OF, UH, FROM MY CONVERSATIONS OF, OF THE ITEMS THAT, UM, THAT WERE, YOU KNOW, WERE TOPICAL AND OF CONCERN, I HAVE FROM POLICE DEPARTMENT, CONEX STORAGE CONTAINER THAT IS CURRENTLY ON SITE.
I HAVE, UM, A NOTE ABOUT MOTORCYCLE TRAINING ACTIVITIES, UH, AND THEN A NOTE ABOUT A, UH, A VEHICLE IMPOUND STORAGE AREA, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE WE'RE DOING THAT ANY LONGER.
UH, NOT CURRENTLY IMPOUND OF RVS, UH, BUT THERE IS SOME, I BELIEVE THERE'S SOME, UM, FIRE DEPARTMENT EQUIPMENT THAT'S STORED OUT THERE CURRENTLY, I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
SO UNDER FIRE I'VE GOT EMERGENCY RESPONSE MM-HMM
TRAILER STORAGE, FIRE APPARATUS STORAGE, AND ALSO TRAINING EXERCISES FROM FIRE MM-HMM
AND THEN FOR PUBLIC WORKS, UM, MATERIAL STORAGE AND STAGING ACTIVITIES.
AGAIN, THAT WAS THAT AREA UP FRONT THAT WE'RE, THAT WE ARE NO LONGER USING.
AND THEN, UM, AND THEN HIS, AND IN THAT SAME CATEGORY, UH, I THINK THERE'S BEEN A HISTORIC USE OF AIRPORT PROPERTY TO SUPPORT CIP PROJECTS.
AND OH, AND THEN I DIDN'T, UH, UM, THE OTHER IS, UH, THERE'S A, A INFLATABLE MARINA VESSEL CORRECT.
THOSE ARE THE CURRENT ITEMS THAT I HAVE THAT ARE ON MY LIST.
I THINK THAT PRETTY MUCH SUMMARIZES EVERYTHING THAT'S OUT THERE CURRENTLY.
UH, THE ONLY OTHER THING I'LL ADD TO THIS BECAUSE IT'S RELATED AND I, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE VERY CLEAR THAT ANY, UM, EIGHT HOURS OR ANYTHING SPENT AT THE MARINA THAT THERE'S VERY CLEAR DOCUMENTATION, UM, FOR ANYTHING, ANY AIRPORT STAFF TIME, UM, THAT'S SPENT AT THE MARINA, MAKING SURE THAT THAT'S SPLIT BETWEEN THE AIRPORT AND MARINA ACCOUNT APPROPRIATELY.
UM, JUST MOVING FORWARD, JUST MAKING SURE THAT THAT'S, UM, THAT ACCOUNTING IS ALL THERE.
UM, OF COURSE, WE KNOW THAT THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THIS WITH THE GRANT ASSURANCES IS TO ENSURE THE, UH, FINANCIAL VIABILITY CONTINUING OF THE AIRPORT.
AND IN THE PAST, UM, CITIES, NOT PETALUMA, BUT CITIES INFRINGED ON PUBLIC USE, GOVERNMENT FUNDED, UM, AIRPORT PROPERTY AND ENDED UP INFRINGING THE ABILITY OF THOSE AIRPORTS TO DO THEIR OWN CONSTRUCTION EXPANSION PROJECTS AND THE LIKE, AND PUT THE VIABILITY OF THOSE AIRPORTS AT RISK.
HENCE THE REASON FOR THIS PART AND THE GRANT ASSURANCES, AND IT'S NOT INTENDED TO PENALIZE ANYBODY, BUT IT'S INTENDED TO, HEY, WE GOTTA BE FAIR AND EQUITABLE HERE.
SO ONE OF THE THOUGHTS, AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST IS WHEN THESE KINDS OF ISSUES COME UP, WE'VE CONTACTED OTHER AIRPORTS, OTHER MUNICIPALITIES TO FIND OUT HOW DO YOU GUYS HANDLE THIS KIND OF AN ISSUE? BECAUSE, YEAH, THE, THE LOOK OF HAVING PILES OF WHAT USED TO BE PETALUMA CITY STREETS,
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A LOT OF THE AIRPORT TENANTS, LET ALONE THE NEIGHBORS.AND I KNOW IN ONE CASE, IN TALKING WITH, UH, WITH FORMER MANAGER DAN, UM, I ASKED HIM, ARE, ARE WE GETTING COMPENSATED FOR THAT? AND HE SAYS, WELL, THE CITY PAVED, UH, AN ACCESS ROAD WITH NOT SO MUCH PAVING, BUT WITH, UM, USED ROAD CHUNKS THAT WERE LAID DOWN SO THAT IT WOULDN'T BECOME MUD AND WEEDS SO THAT AIRPORT, UH, VEHICLES COULD GET AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE AIRPORT.
UH, AND THAT WAS DONE SORT OF, UM, UH, TO, UM, PROVIDE SOME INPUT WITHOUT EXPENSE TO THE AIRPORT FOR THE USE OF THE CORP YARD OUT FRONT OF THE AIRPORT THERE.
UM, SO ANYWAY, I, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MIGHT BE OF BENEFIT IS TO CONTACT THE OTHER AIRPORTS IN THE BAY AREA.
UM, AND MAYBE SOME OF THIS INFORMATION'S ONLINE, I DON'T KNOW.
BUT TO FIND OUT HOW THEY HANDLE THESE KIND OF THINGS 'CAUSE WE'RE NOT THE ONLY ONE.
AND TO SEE HOW THEY MANAGE THAT.
AND OBVIOUSLY IF THE CITY, AND WHEN FORMER, UH, COMMISSIONER BARRY LAWRENCE AND I WENT OUT AND INTERVIEWED THE UM, UH, FIRE CHIEF A COUPLE YEARS AGO, UM, WE WERE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY BUILDING SOME GOOD SIZED HANGERS OUT AT THE AIRPORT THERE ON THAT END OF THE, OF THE PROPERTY.
AND HE WAS ALL EXCITED ABOUT, YEAH, WE COULD USE ONE TO STORE OUR EQUIPMENT.
WELL IF YOU DID, YOU'D HAVE TO PAY THE GOING RATE.
WE JUST COULDN'T GIVE IT TO YOU.
AND HE SAID, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
SO THAT WAS VERY REASSURING TO US.
SO ANYWAY, UM, YEAH, I THINK CONTACTING SOME OTHER, UH, AIRPORTS AND, AND CITIES FIND OUT HOW THEY HANDLE THAT MIGHT BE, GIVE US A GOOD BASIS TO FIND OUT HOW ARE WE DOING COMPARED TO THEM, WHAT SORT OF ISSUES THAT THEY'VE COME UP AGAINST, UH, AND HOW DO THEY MANATEES KIND OF THINGS.
AND ONE THING, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS ALL KNOW THIS, BUT, UM, THE HALF OF THE GOLF COURSE THAT IS NEXT TO THE AIRPORT, THAT'S AIRPORT PROPERTY, IT WAS PURCHASED WITH FAA GRANT FUNDS ALONG WITH THE AIRPORT PROPERTY.
UM, AND THAT WAS DONE TO PROTECT THE AIRPORT FROM ENCROACHMENT AND, UH, TO SORT OF COMPENSATE FOR THAT, UM, ABOUT HALF OF THE REVENUE THAT THE, UH, GOLF COURSE OPERATOR WOULD PAY TO THE CITY COMES TO THE AIRPORT BECAUSE THAT'S AIRPORT PROPERTY.
AND, UH, SO THAT'S THE LAST I LOOKED, IT WAS LIKE 45, $50,000 A YEAR WE GOT, UH, IN REVENUE, UH, FOR THE USE OF THAT AIRPORT PROPERTY AS A GOLF COURSE.
AND SO THAT'S A WAY OF MAKING SURE THAT IT'S EQUITABLE FOR EVERYONE.
I GUESS THE LAST THING I'LL ADD HERE IS JUST THAT I GUESS IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A BAD THING THAT WE'RE INTO THE, UH, I MEAN, JUST CAN WAIT TILL THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR JUST 'CAUSE IT'S GONNA TAKE SOME TIME TO GO THROUGH ALL THIS.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT GIVES US SOME TIME TO, I AT LEAST IDENTIFY WHAT, WHAT THESE ARE, WHAT THE CHARGES AND RATES AND FEES SHOULD BE, AND THEN HOPEFULLY GET 'EM ADDED, UM, DURING THE NEXT CYCLE.
SO, UM, I GUESS THE GOAL FOR TONIGHT WOULD BE, I GUESS JUST TO AGREE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO, UM, IDENTIFY AND THEN WORK WITH CITY STAFF TO COME UP WITH, UM, REASONABLE RATES AND CHARGES FOR THINGS LIKE OUTDOOR STORAGE, UH, HANGERS, FIGURE OUT WHAT THOSE RATES ARE AND THEN GET THEM ADDED TO THE MASTER FEE SCHEDULE.
IS THAT YEAH, SUMMARIZE? YEAH.
AND I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT IT FROM BOTH DIRECTIONS, RIGHT? THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY AMBIGUITY EITHER.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE EVENT LAST WEEKEND AND, UM, THERE WAS A QUESTION CAME UP ABOUT EXTRA MOWING ASSOCIATED WITH PREPARING FOR THAT EVENT, RIGHT? SO IF THERE'S, UM, COST THAT THE, THE AIRPORT IS ASKING THE CITY TO INCUR, WE SHOULD BE TRANSPARENT ABOUT THAT AS WELL.
UM, SO THAT THERE'S NO OPPORTUNITY FOR A GOTCHA ON THOSE EITHER.
SO I THINK DOING BOTH OF THOSE WOULD BE, WOULD BE CONSTRUCTIVE.
UM, AND IF I, I DID DOUBLE CHECK THIS IN THE BACKGROUND HERE.
I THINK PROP 26 HAS A COUPLE OF EXCLUSIONS THAT APPLY DIRECTLY TO US THAT MAKE PROPERTY USAGE AT THE AIRPORT.
AND FEES FOR PRIVILEGE NOT COVERED AS TAXES UNDER THAT, UM, THAT LAW.
SO I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY IN THE CLEAR AND NOT HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT A PREEMPTION QUESTION.
UM, SO I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY GOOD NEWS FOR THIS CONVERSATION.
WELL, THERE, THERE'S A, A NUMBER OF OTHER STATUTES AS WELL, SO, WE'LL, IT'S, I DON'T, BETWEEN ALL OF THEM, UM, I'M NOT AWARE OF.
I MEAN, ARGUABLY SOME, SOME, SOME CITIES THAT ARE ACTUAL POWER GENERATORS ARGUE THAT THEY HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY.
WE DON'T HAVE IT IN OUR WASTE ENTERPRISE, UM, WATER OR SEWER.
SO I'M, I'M PRETTY SURE WE'RE RESTRICTED THAT WAY, BUT WE'LL LOOK AT IT.
UM, SO IT'S, IT'S NOT JUST PROP 26.
UM, UM, SO, SO YEAH, WELL, AND THERE'S THE GOVERNMENT CODE IN, IN THE 50 THOUSANDS AND THERE'S OTHER PROVISIONS.
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TO LOOK AT THAT.UM, 'CAUSE I, I BELIEVE THEY ARE RESTRICTED FOR US.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MR. UM, COMMISSIONER GOW MENTIONED, UM, THAT I THINK WE'LL FIND WHEN WE ASK, UM, THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT TO, TO LOOK AT THE STRUCTURE OF THE AIRPORT ENTERPRISE IS, UM, UM, THE POTENTIAL FOR PAST AND FUTURE, UM, IN KIND CONTRIBUTIONS FROM THE ENTERPRISE TO THE GENERAL FUND AND VICE VERSA FOR THINGS LIKE, UM, COULD BE POLICE OR FIRE SECURITY SUPPORT TRAINING, THE, THAT EXAMPLE OF RECYCLED PAVING, UM, BEING USED, ET CETERA.
SO THAT, THAT'S CAN BE POTENTIALLY A, A COMPLIANT WAY TO, UM, TO STRIKE THAT BALANCE.
BUT I THINK WE'LL NEED TO FOCUS ON THE, SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THE CURRENT AND THE, UM, NON AERONAUTICAL, NON AERONAUTICAL USES IN THE ONES WE CAN ANTICIPATE, UM, AND THE OVERALL STRUCTURE OF THE AIRPORT ENTERPRISE FINANCIALLY.
UM, AND LOOK AT HOW, AND, AND REVISIT THE ISSUE OF, UM, THE, WHAT CONSTRAINTS WE HAVE TO SATISFY IN TERMS OF OUR RATES AND FEES.
UM, AND THEN, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE AN ANALYSIS AND IT WILL TAKE A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE IT'LL TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME ON THE PART OF, UM, FINANCE, AND I'M SURE THEY'RE TRACKING THAT AS IT IS.
UM, AND I'M NOT SURE SURE IF THEY'RE NECESSARILY TRACKING ALL THESE DIFFERENT, UM, NON NON AERONAUTICAL USES THAT HAVE OCCURRED.
'CAUSE THEY MAY NOT BE FLOWING THROUGH THEM.
SO, BUT I'M SURE WE CAN LOOK AT THAT AND RESPOND TO THE COMMISSION, GIVE AN ESTIMATE AS TO WHEN.
I WOULD LIKE TO GET A SENSE OF WHEN WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO EXPECT TO REOPEN THE CONVERSATION WITH SOME OF THOSE SPECIFICS.
I KNOW WE'VE, WE'VE ALREADY CANCELED THE MEETING BEGINNING OF JULY BECAUSE OF THE HOLIDAY.
UM, SHOULD WE BE LOOKING TO AUGUST FOR THAT? OR, UM, DO WE NEED ANOTHER I HAVE NO IDEA, UNLESS FINANCE HAS ALREADY BEEN ASKED.
THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE GONNA HAVE TO SORT OF TEE THAT UP FOR US, UM, FOR AND FOR YOU SO THAT WE HAVE THAT BACKGROUND INFORMATION.
COULD I ASK THAT WE, WE MAKE THAT REQUEST AND GET A DATE FROM THEM BEFORE THE HOLIDAY? SURE, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
I I THINK IT'S PRETTY REASONABLE.
YEAH, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO KNOW FOR AGENDA PLANNING PURPOSES, SHOULD BRING US BACK AT THE OFFICE MEETING.
UH, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING OTHER THAN JUST TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK, LIKE I SAID AT THE BEGINNING, THAT I'M PERFECTLY OKAY WITH THE SERVICE FOR SERVICE ARRANGEMENT WHERE IT MAKES SENSE FOR THE AIRPORT TO MAKE SENSE FOR THE CITY.
I'D BE TOTALLY IN FAVOR OF THAT, BUT I THINK THE ONLY WAY THAT WORKS IS IF WE HAVE, WE STILL NEED TO ESTABLISH A VALUE OF WHAT THE MARKET RATE WOULD BE FOR WHAT WE'RE TRADING.
UM, AND I THINK THAT'S BEEN THE ISSUE IN THE PAST IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN SOME SORT OF LEGACY AGREEMENT THAT NOBODY REALLY HAS AN IDEA WHAT THE FRONT OF THE AIRPORT WOULD GO FOR, WHAT WE TECHNICALLY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO CHARGE FOR THAT VERSUS WHAT WE'RE GETTING OUT OF THAT ARRANGEMENT.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IT MAY, IT MAY VERY WELL BE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE IDENTIFY THESE THINGS AND WE DON'T EVER END UP NEEDING TO ACTUALLY USE 'EM BECAUSE WE CAN CONTINUE THE EXCHANGE.
BUT I THINK JUST HAVING THOSE NUMBERS WILL HELP US FIGURE OUT IF IT'S AN EQUITABLE TRADE.
UM, ONE THING I WILL ADD IS I THINK THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY OVERALL TO REALLY TAKE A, GET A MORE CLEAR POLICY POSITION ON THIS BECAUSE THIS DOESN'T JUST APPLY TO LIKE OTHER CITY OPERATIONS.
THIS COULD APPLY TO OTHER BUSINESSES AND OTHER REVENUE SOURCES FOR THE AIRPORT GOING FORWARD, WHERE IT, IT ISN'T EXACTLY LIKE A, A TICK FOR TACK LIKE, EXCHANGE OF SERVICES THAT, UM, COULD BE MADE UP.
UM, LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE TO LIKE PAY FOR A FEE FOR LIKE POLICE OFFICERS FOR EXAMPLE, THAT WE GET A CERTAIN NUMBER, IT COULD BE SOMETHING LIKE A FUTURE PRIVATE ENTERPRISE GOING IN AND WE NEED TO HAVE A MORE DEFINITE UNDERSTANDING OF HOW WE WOULD CHARGE GOING FORWARD FOR, UM, U THE USE OF THE SPACE AT THE AIRPORT.
UM, AND IT HAS TO DO WITH, UH, WHAT, WHAT COMMISSIONERS AFFECTIONATELY REFERRED TO AS THE CORP YARD, BUT THE AREA ON THE NORTH END THAT, THAT HAD AT ONE TIME BEEN USED FOR PUBLIC WORKS, UM, STORAGE AND MATERIAL STORAGE, AND WE'VE STOPPED USING THAT.
AND MY ASSUMPTION HAS BEEN THAT, THAT THE AIRPORT COMMISSION DOES NOT EVER WANT TO BE IN THE POSITION OF LEASING THAT SPACE OUT FOR ANY KIND OF STORAGE, THAT YOU DID NOT WANT THAT USE THERE, PERIOD.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT US TO BE LOOKING AT OR NOT? I THINK, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE ISSUE BEFORE WAS, UM, VISIBILITY.
UH, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS, THERE'S NO SCREENING IN THE FENCE.
THERE'S, THERE WERE DUST ISSUES.
YOU KNOW, IT'S POSSIBLE SOME OF THOSE THINGS COULD GET MITIGATED.
I GUESS THE, THE REAL QUESTION WOULD
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BE, UM, IF THE MARKET RATE WERE SUCH THAT IT WOULD BENEFIT THE AIRPORT VERSUS, AND, AND THE USE WASN'T GONNA GENERATE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF DUST, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, UM, SO WORTH LOOKING AT STILL.BUT THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE COULD LOOK AT.
WE WOULD JUST NEED TO TAKE EVERYTHING INTO CONSIDERATION.
I I JUST WANNA ADD A COMMENT TO THAT, THAT WE DID SUFFER DAMAGE TO THE ROADWAY FROM THE HEAVY EQUIPMENT COMING AND GOING THROUGH THE GATE THERE.
AND WHEN YOU DRIVE IT, YOU CAN SEE IT'S OBVIOUS.
AND DAN TRIED TO GET REMEDIATED, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT HE WAS SUCCESSFUL IN DOING THAT.
'CAUSE IT, THERE'S A LOT OF ALLIGATOR IN THERE.
SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD USE OF THAT AREA FOR THE WEAR AND TEAR ON THE ROAD UNLESS, UNLESS THE CITY'S WILLING TO, YOU KNOW, FIX THE ROAD.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA SEE POTHOLING FIVE YEARS FROM NOW IN THAT AREA AND, UH, AS A RESULT OF IT BEING OVERSTRESSED.
AND I DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT WAS, I, I DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT'S IN THE PAST.
I MEAN, THERE WAS EQUIPMENT THERE YESTERDAY, I HEARD THE DAY BEFORE, LIKE VERY RECENTLY THAT YEAH, THAT'S FOR THE TAXIWAY PROJECT.
I JUST, JUST LIKE, WAIT A SECOND.
JUST SAW STUFF THERE, HOW PROJECTS GET YOU, OKAY.
THAT'S, THAT'S COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
UM, I JUST THOUGHT I WAS GOING CRAZY THERE FOR A SECOND.
SO WE'LL CONFIRM THAT WE CAN PUT THIS BACK ON THE AGENDA FOR THE AUGUST MEETING WITH SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS AND, UH, AND WE'LL MOVE FORWARD FROM THERE.
SO I HAD THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS GONNA BE UNDER, UH, UH, AGENDAS AS A MATTER FOR CONSIDERATION DOESN'T REALLY MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE.
BUT DO WE HAVE ANY, UH, PUBLIC HEARINGS OR MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION? WE DO NOT.
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WE HAVE ANY, UH, GENERAL COMMITTEE COMMENT? I WANT TO COMMENT THAT THE AIRPORT DISPLAY DAY WAS WONDERFUL, AND I THINK WE HAD ALMOST 2000 PEOPLE.MAYBE IT WAS ABOUT 2000, JUST A LITTLE OVER.
I LEFT BEFORE IT WAS COMPLETELY OVER AND IT WAS NOT QUITE TO 2000.
SO THAT'S AMAZING THAT WE CLEARED 2000.
I THINK THAT'S A WONDERFUL PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN PAPA AND THE CITY TO DO THAT.
AND I KNOW IT BRINGS A LOT OF, A LOT OF JOY TO THE COMMUNITY AND A LOT OF GOODWILL FOR, UM, GOING BOTH DIRECTIONS THERE.
SO REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S, UM, SUPPORT AND EFFORT TO DO THAT.
I KNOW IT'S, IT'S NOT A TRIVIAL UNDERTAKING FOR ANYBODY.
AND ONE OF THE BEST THINGS ABOUT IT WAS, UH, 'CAUSE MYSELF AND ANOTHER PAPA MEMBER, WE USUALLY GREET THE FOLKS WHEN THEY COME IN.
THE PERCENTAGE OF LITTLE KIDDOS WAS JUST ABSOLUTELY ASTOUNDING.
AND SO MANY OF THEM CAME IN WITH LITTLE AIRPLANES IN THEIR HANDS, AND THEY WERE POINTING AT THE AIRPLANES WHEN THEY TOOK OFF OR THEY FLEW BY OR SOMETHING.
AND THEN TO HAVE THE, THE CORVETTE CLUB AND SOME OF THE CLASSIC HOT RODS THERE, INCLUDING A 19 68, 4 GT 40 THAT RACED AT LAMA.
IT WAS JUST ABSOLUTELY STUNNINGLY GORGEOUS.
WE HAD, UH, UH, MULTIPLE FOOD TRUCKS AND EVERYONE HAD JUST A GREAT TIME.
SO, UH, I DARE SAY THANKS TO THE, UH, HEAD OF THE COMMITTEE OVER HERE, UH, PERHAPS NEXT YEAR.
SO, UH, I'M GLAD IT WORKED WELL FOR EVERYONE.
I'D LIKE TO PUBLICLY, UH, RECOGNIZE, UM, UH, DANELLE AND, AND, UH, RYAN, UH, KURTZ, UH, WHO ARE JUST, YOU KNOW, MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY, MEMBERS OF THE AIRPORT COMMUNITY WHO REALLY, WITHOUT THEM, THIS WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED.
THEY PUT IN A HEROIC EFFORT TO BRING THIS TO BE, AND IT IT, TO SEE 2000 HAPPY PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY ENJOYING A FREE EVENT, UM, THAT WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED AT ALL WITHOUT THEM.
SO THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DID.
YEAH, AND I'D LIKE TO, UH, THANK DASH AS WELL.
I KNOW IT WAS LIKE THROWING YOU TO THE ALLIGATORS FIRST WEEK ON THE JOB.
AND THEN WE HAVE 2000 PEOPLE COME THROUGH THE GATE.
UH, A LOT OF AIRPLANES, A LOT OF CARS TO MANAGE.
UM, IT'S NOT EASY YET, YOU KNOW, THE SKY RANCH ROAD ISN'T EXACTLY DESIGNED FOR THAT AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC.
BUT, UH, HAPPY TO SAY WE DIDN'T HAVE, UH, ONE SAFETY RELATED ISSUE.
UH, A LOT OF HAPPY PEOPLE OUT THERE.
UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT, THAT FLEW IN, A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT, THAT DROVE IN.
AND, UM, IT WAS JUST A WONDERFUL EVENT FOR EVERYBODY.
AND, UM, JUST WANNA SAY, UH, THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DID.
IT WAS, IT WAS A WONDERFUL EVENT.
AND I'D LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU.
'CAUSE JUST TO BE ABLE TO SAY, I HELPED REPRESENT AN AIRPORT THAT IS ABLE TO PULL OFF SOMETHING SO COOL AND SO AWESOME FOR OUR, FOR OUR NEIGHBORS.
IT, IT JUST MAKES ME PROUD TO BE HERE.
AND I WANNA SAY THANK YOU GUYS FOR PULLING OFF WHAT IT WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT'S AMAZING
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AND I'M HAPPY TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH YOU GUYS ON CONTINUING THIS TRADITION GOING FORWARD.AH, DASH ALSO, UH, WE'D LIKE TO THANK YOU STAFF FOR ALL THAT THEY, THEY DID.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT THEM IT WOULD'VE BEEN MORE DIFFICULT ALSO.
SO THAT WAS GREAT THAT EVERYBODY WAS HELPING.
WELL, I, I'LL, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS I'M GONNA TELL 'EM TOMORROW IS, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY WORKED EXTREMELY HARD BEHIND THE SCENES, AND I REALLY LIKE TO OUTLINE THE, THE WORK AND EFFORT THAT JOEL HAD PUT INTO FOR LIKE, THE WEEKS LEADING UP TO THE EVENT AND MAKING SURE THEY WENT SMOOTHLY FOR EVERYONE COMING IN.
UM, BECAUSE WITHOUT HIM, IT, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK WE, WE'D BE IN A MUCH LIKE MORE WORLD OF HURT TRYING TO ORGANIZE 2000 PEOPLE COMING INTO OUR GATES THAT DAY.
AND I REALLY LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THAT SPECIFICALLY IN THE AMOUNT OF EFFORT AND, AND TIME AND CARE THAT HE PUT INTO THE, UM, MAKING SURE IT WENT SMOOTHLY FOR EVERYONE.
YEAH, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S AN ODOMETER ON THAT MOWER, BUT I, I SAW HIM OUT THERE A LOT
AND, UH, IT DOES, IT DOES LOOK GOOD OUT THERE.
SO, UM, YEAH, WE'LL KEEP IT UP.
IT LOOKS, LOOKS REAL GOOD NOW.
IT LOOKED REALLY GOOD FOR A LITTLE WHILE UNTIL THEY TORE UP THE TAXIWAY
I'M SURE IT'LL BE NICE WHEN IT'S ALL DONE.
SHORT TERM PAIN FOR LONG-TERM GAIN.
UM, ANY OTHER, UH, ANY OTHER COMMITTEE COMMENTS? DO WE HAVE AN UPDATE FROM COUNCIL? I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE, UH, COMMISSIONER TO CARLY HERE, BUT GINA, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO SHARE FROM THE CITY COUNCIL VIEWPOINT? I DON'T HAVE ANY UPDATES FROM COUNCIL FOR AIRPORT, I'M AFRAID.
THANK YOU FOR CHECKING THOUGH.
I ACTUALLY, I ACTUALLY HAD, UH, ONE OTHER THING.
SO I HAD A CHANCE TO ON REGARDING THE, UH, SOME OF THE HANGAR MAINTENANCE ITEMS AND HANGER WEIGHTLESS POLICY.
I HAD A CHANCE TO TALK WITH DASH.
MY NEXT THING WAS GONNA BE AD HOC COMMITTEE.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO LEAD US OFF WITH YOUR AD HOC COMMITTEE? UPDATE MY HEAD.
I THOUGHT WE'RE KEEPING EACH OTHER ON TRACK TODAY, JOSH.
I THOUGHT WE WERE, I THOUGHT WE WERE A LITTLE LOWER THAN THAT.
WE'RE, WE'RE KEEPING EACH OTHER ON TRACK.
WE'RE ON WHILE WE'RE ON TOPIC.
UM, I DID HAVE A CHANCE TO TALK WITH DASH ABOUT THE HANGAR WEIGHTLESS POLICY AND SOME OF THE HANGAR MAINTENANCE.
UM, HE'S GOT A LOT OF GREAT IDEAS FOR HOW TO, UM, TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THOSE THINGS.
SO, UM, WE WORKING CLOSELY WITH HIM TO, UM, ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN, UM, ON OUR AGENDA FOR A WHILE.
I, I'M PRETTY CONFIDENT WE CAN GET THOSE, UH, CLEANED UP.
SORRY, JUST GIVING YOU A LITTLE TROUBLE HERE.
KEEP KEEPING EACH OTHER ON TRACK.
UM, DOES, UH, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SUB, UH, SUBCOMMITTEE, AD HOC UPDATES, UM, HANGER DEVELOPMENT MAINTENANCE OR WAIT LIST? DO WE NEED TO ROPE SOMEONE ELSE IN TO TAKE YOUR SPOTS? WHAT'S YOU, YOU WERE ON, REMIND ME WHICH ONES TOM? ALL OF THEM.
UM, AND I THINK THAT IF, UM, YOU GOING FORWARD WE WOULD LIKE, UH, UH, SUPPORT FROM MYSELF AND, AND BARRY, IF SOMEONE NEW COMES ON COUNCIL OR WE HAVE A SENIOR STAFF MEMBER THAT CHANGES, WE'D BE HAPPY TO MEET WITH THEM AND GIVE THEM SORT OF A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THE AIRPORT SO THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GETTING INTO AND HOW WE SEE OUR ROLE AS THE AIRPORT COMMISSION AND HOW WE INTERACT WITH STAFF AND ALL OF THAT.
SO IF YOU'D LIKE US TO CONTINUE THAT, I'M SURE BARRY WOULD SUPPORT.
AND IF HE'S NOT, I'D BE HAPPY TO DO IT.
AND, UH, I THINK WE HAVE, UH, A NEW COMMISSIONER IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT.
SO, UH, I THINK HE'S ALREADY WORKING ON, UH, GETTING UP TO SPEED, SO I'M SURE WE CAN, UH, WORK TOGETHER ON THOSE, ON THOSE THINGS.
UM, I THINK IT ALSO, WHILE WE'RE ON THE TOPIC OF HANDING THINGS OFF FROM TOM, UM, I THINK IT WOULD BE FANTASTIC IF YOU AND BARRY COULD PACKAGE UP THE MATERIALS THAT YOU USE FOR YOUR, UM, AIRPORT INTRODUCTION MEETINGS THAT YOU HAVE, UM, THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT WITH OH, WITH NEW FOLKS.
I THINK AND MAKE SURE THAT DASH HAS THAT SURE.
SO THAT WE DON'T LOSE THAT REALLY GOOD WORK, BECAUSE THAT'S BEEN A HUGE VALUE.
'CAUSE I'VE GOT, UM, UH, JUST A COUPLE OF DOCUMENTS THAT I PUT TOGETHER WHEN WE MEET WITH, UH, SENIOR CITY STAFF, BASICALLY, UM, THE ROLE OF THE COMMISSION AS DELEGATED BY THE CITY, BUT ALSO THE INTERACTION WE HAVE TO HAVE WITH THE FAA AND HOW THAT BALANCES AND WORKS OUT.
AND, UM, A LITTLE BIT OF THE, THE HISTORY OF, OF THE AIRPORT, NOT IN GREAT DETAIL, BUT ENOUGH TO SORT OF FORM IT UP.
AND SO I CAN EMAIL THAT TO YOU IF YOU LIKE.
IT'S JUST A COUPLE OF SIMPLE DOCUMENTS, SO I I WOULD ACTUALLY REALLY GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT.
YEAH, WE USED TO HAVE AN AD HOC COMMITTEE OF, UH, TOM AND BARRY, WHO'S A FORMER COMMISSIONER, THAT THEY WOULD GO AND, AND HAVE THESE MEETINGS, THESE INTRODUCTORY CONVERSATIONS WHENEVER SOMEBODY NEW JOINED THE CITY TEAM.
AND WE'D REALLY LIKE TO NOT LOSE, LOSE THAT.
SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE A WONDERFUL HANDOFF.
ANY OTHER LAST CALL FOR ANY OTHER AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE? CURRENT UPDATES?
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OKAY.[STAFF COMMENT]
CAN MOVE INTO THE MANAGER REPORT.SO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE GOT, UM, GOING ON, UH, OPERATIONALLY WISE, AS WE DID HAVE THE AIRPORT BASH, UM, AS YOU GUYS REMEMBER.
AND THAT WAS A TREMENDOUS SUCCESS.
UM, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ONCE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, CONGRATULATIONS TO RYAN, DANIELLE, RON FOR PULLING, UH, PUTTING ON SUCH A WONDERFUL AND WELL THOUGHT OUT AND REALLY WELL PLANNED EVENT AGAIN THIS YEAR.
AND, AND THANK ALL THE STAFF AND ALL THE VOLUNTEERS THAT ENSURE MADE WHEN, UH, PUT ALL THE HARD WORK AND TO MAKE SURE MAKING SURE THAT IT WENT SMOOTHLY FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND FOR PILOTS VISITING OUR AIRPORT THAT DAY, UM, SIMILAR LITTLE OPERATIONAL THINGS IS THAT WE HAVE THE AWAS UP AND RUNNING AGAIN, SO IT'S REPORTING WIND DATA.
UM, AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE CONTINUING TO MONITOR IS MAKE SURE THAT REPAIR STAYS IN EFFECT.
UM, AND THAT PART OF OUR NEW DAILY ROUTINE IS CHECKING THE A OS EVERY MORNING TO MAKE SURE IT'S REPORTING.
UM, AND JUST DOING A SIMPLE PHONE CALL AND LISTENING TO THE RADIO AND MAKING SURE THAT IF THAT REPAIR FALLS OUTTA PLACE, THAT, UM, WE'RE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT A LITTLE BIT FASTER THAN, UM, WE HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST.
SO, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO STAY ON TOP OF.
UM, ONE OTHER THING HERE, ONE OF OUR ATTACHMENTS IS WE ACTUALLY HAVE A COGS REPORT.
SO IT'S A COST OF GOODS SOLD FROM THE, UH, ON THE FUEL SIDE.
UM, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN OBSERVING, UH, AT LEAST ON THE, UH, FUEL SIDE IS THAT THE PRICE OF FUEL IS STARTING TO GO DOWN ON THE REFINERY LEVEL.
AND SO IN THE COMING WEEKS, YOU'RE GONNA START SEEING THOSE, THOSE SAVINGS BEING TRANSFERRED OFF TO PILOTS HERE AT THE AIRPORT, UM, NOT ONLY JUST FOR GOING THROUGH SUMMER OPERATIONS, BUT GOING FORWARD, UM, WE'RE HOPING THAT WE'RE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THAT STATUS WITH THIS, THIS CURRENT, UM, THIS CURRENT TREND, THIS DOWNWARD TREND.
UM, SO JUST LEADING OFF INTO, UM, FUEL SALES DURING THE OH, YES.
SO, UM, SO WITH THE AIRPORT BASH, WE, UH, WE DID OUR FIRST 50 CENT DISCOUNT, AND THIS IS GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT WE WE'RE GONNA HAVE GOING FORWARD WITH ALL FOUR DISPLAY DAYS.
UM, AND THAT WEEKEND WE SAW SOME OF THE BEST SALES THE AIRPORT HAS EVER SEEN, INCLUDING 800 GALLONS ON THE DAY OF THE AIRPORT BASH AND 600 GALLONS THE DAY FOLLOWING.
UM, AND WE AS A CITY, WE, WE SEE IT NOT ONLY AS GOOD FOR THE AIRPORT AND THE COMMUNITY TO, UM, BE ABLE TO COME OUT AND BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE AIRPORT, YOU KNOW, EVEN WITH A, A FINANCIAL INCENTIVE, BUT IT ALSO, IT, IT SUPPORTS THE AIRPORT LONG TERM WHERE, UM, WE'RE ABLE TO SEE, UM, ABOVE AVERAGE FUEL SALES, WHICH MAKES UP FOR THE REVENUE DESPITE HAVING A, A LARGE DISCOUNT.
AND SO, UM, IT, WE'RE HERE AT THE CITY THAT'S GONNA BE A, A POLICY GOING FORWARD IS TO SUPPORT THE, THE PAPA DISPLAY DAYS, UM, BY HAVING A FUEL DISCOUNT AND BEING ABLE TO, UM, PASS ALONG SOME OF THE MARGIN TO OUR PILOTS THAT WANT TO FLY THOSE DAYS AND DISPLAY THEIR AIRCRAFT.
SO, UM, GOING FORWARD, I THINK THE, ONE OF THE BIG ELEPHANTS IN THE ROOM IS, IS THAT WE STARTED THE TAXIWAY A REHABIL REHABILITATION PROJECT.
SO WE'VE ISSUED NOTAMS, UM, THAT BOTH THE TA TAXIWAY A IS CLOSED, UM, AS WELL AS THE, THE RUNWAY IS CLOSED THIS WEEK.
UM, WE'VE ALSO ISSUED A, UH, MESSAGE THAT'S ON THE A OS, UM, UH, LETTING NO PILOTS THAT, THAT THE TAXIWAY IS IN FACT CLOSED.
UM, AND THAT THIS WEEK WE'VE ALSO INSTITUTED A MESSAGE NOTIFYING PILOTS IN THE AIR THAT MAY HAVE NOT CHECKED NOTUMM, THAT, UM, THE RUNWAY IS IN FACT CLOSED.
UM, SO THAT IT'S NOT A SHOCK COMING IN AND TRYING TO LAND AT OUR AIRPORT.
UM, WE'VE BEEN WORKING VERY DILIGENTLY, UH, WITH MEETING HUNT AND GEL AND MAKING SURE THAT THE JOB SITE'S BEEN KEEPING CLEAR.
AND SO THERE'S BEEN ACTIVE STREET SWEEPING AROUND THE AIRPORT, AROUND THE TAXIWAY AREA AND ON THE RUNWAY, UM, MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S NO FOD OR ANY DEBRIS THAT, UM, CAN GET INGESTED INTO ENGINES, PROPELLERS, UM, BODY OF AIRCRAFT, UM, OR OTHER AERONAUTICAL USES.
UM, AND SO THEY'VE BEEN WORKING REALLY DILIGENTLY AND TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE, THE SPACE IS STERILE AND SAFE FOR AIR AIRPORT, UH, AIRPORT OPERATIONS.
UM, WE DO HAVE SOME PICTURES HERE FROM SOME OF THE WORK THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO PULL UP.
SO, UM, THEY'VE ALREADY, UH, UM, GR DONE GRINDING OF THE, UM, EDGE PERIMETERS OF THE, THE TAXIWAY.
UM, AND THEY'VE ALREADY REMOVED SECTIONS OF IRRIGATION, WHICH, UM, WE'LL GET INTO IN JUST A MOMENT HERE.
UM, AND SO, YEAH, I THINK THAT'S GOOD.
I THINK THAT'S GO INTO THE PROJECT NOW.
YEAH, I'D SAY LET'S GO INTO THE PROJECT.
SO, UM, YEAH, SO I'LL, I'LL, UM, UH, HAPPY TO, UM, UH, INTRODUCE THE, UM, JUST REAL QUICKLY, LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT WE'RE ON SCHEDULE.
UH, UH, GEL BROTHERS HAS, UM, MADE SOME PRETTY HER, UM, PRETTY HEROIC EFFORTS TO FRONT LOAD THE PROJECT AHEAD OF THE SHUTDOWN, DOING AS MUCH AS THEY COULD TO FACILITATE THE ONE WEEK, SHUT THIS FIRST ONE WEEK SHUTDOWN AND TRY AND CONTAIN THE WORK.
AND WE HAVE MEET AND HUNT HERE, UH, REPRESENTED BY MATT PADILLA
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WHO'S GOING TO COME UP TO THE PODIUM AND SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE WORK THAT'S BEEN COMPLETED, THE WORK THAT'S, UH, ANTICIPATED THIS WEEK.AND, UM, AND, UH, JUST A GENERAL PROJECT UPDATE FROM THE CONSTRUCTION SIDE OF THINGS.
AND, UH, YEAH, MATT, I THINK YOU HERE.
AND WHILE HE'S DOING THAT, I HAVE SOME GREAT PHOTOS FROM THE FIELD TEAM THAT I'M GONNA SHARE ON SCREEN.
AND, UM, JUST FOR, JUST FOR BACKGROUND WHILE HE'S SHARING HIS UPDATES.
EVENING, UH, AS GINA DASH INTRODUCED BY, MY NAME IS, UH, MATTHEW PADILLA.
I'M A PROJECT MANAGER WITH MEAN HUNT DOING THE CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATION SERVICES FOR TAXI, AA.
UH, WE'RE ALSO THE, UH, ENGINEERING SERVICES PROVIDER DOING ALL THE DESIGN FOR ALL THE, UH, UH, THE LATEST FAA WORK THAT'S BEEN GOING ON, UH, OUT AT THE AIRPORT, HELPING WITH ALL THE MAINTENANCE PAVEMENT PROJECTS, AND, UM, UH, ALSO ASSISTING WITH SOME, UH, HANGER DEVELOPMENT STUDIES AS WELL.
UH, SO QUICK UPDATE JUST ON THE CONSTRUCTION.
UH, LAST WEEK WAS OUR FIRST WEEK OF CONSTRUCTION.
WE'RE ABLE TO GET, UH, ALL THE MILLED PAVEMENT THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE COMPLETED, UM, AND THEN ALSO START IN ON THE EXCAVATION OF WHAT WILL BE A 30 INCH CEMENT TREATED SUBGRADE.
UM, THAT'S TO HELP WITH, UH, TAKE CARE OF ALL THE SEVERE EDGE CRACKING THAT'S BEEN EXPERIENCED OUT THERE THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.
AND, UH, SO I UNDERSTAND THAT HAD A COUPLE OF, UH, REPAIRS THAT HAVE BEEN, UH, ATTEMPTED BEFORE.
UH, SO NOW WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AND KIND OF A FURLONG OF THE CEMENT TREATMENT, THE, SINCE THE PAST FEW YEARS, UM, WE FEEL THAT'S GONNA BE THE, UH, OPTION THAT'S REALLY GONNA PROVIDE THE LONGEVITY THAT, THAT WOULD BE EXPECTED OF A 20 YEAR, UH, ASPHALT PAVEMENT SECTION.
UM, IT'S A VERY, UH, VERY NARROW SECTION, UH, AND SO IT'S A VERY TIGHT WORKING SPACE.
SO ONE THING THAT WE'VE, UH, YOU KNOW, BEEN CONSISTENT WITH, UH, REITERATING THE MESSAGE ON IS, UH, SAFETY OUT THERE ON SITE, UH, MAKING SURE THAT EVERYONE'S GOING OUT, UH, GOING BACK HOME THE SAME WAY THAT THEY CAME OUT ON SITE.
UH, AT THE SAME TIME BEING AWARE THAT WE ARE STILL AT TIMES IN AN ACTIVE, UH, AIRPORT, UH, ENVIRONMENT.
UM, AND WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT WE'VE GOT COMMUNICATION GOING ON BETWEEN THE HAULING TRUCKS, UH, AIRCRAFT, UM, AS WELL AS, UH, THE PEOPLE OPERATING THE EQUIPMENT, UM, FOR THAT.
YEAH, AS, UH, AS GENUS, UH, AND JOSH, SORRY, AND DASH STATED, UH, THIS WEEK WE MOVE INTO ONE OF THE VERY EXCITING WEEKS OF THIS RUNWAY SHUTDOWN.
UM, MAKING SURE THAT WE KEEP THIS TO A FIVE DAY CLOSURE, UH, HAS BEEN THE TOP PRIORITY.
UH, SO WHAT WE'LL BE DOING THIS WEEK, I SAID, IS GOING THROUGH DOING THE CEMENT TREATMENT, UH, AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE HITTING ALL THOSE AREAS SPECIFICALLY AFFECTING THE RUNWAY SHUTDOWN.
UM, WITH THAT, WE DO HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, A FEW CONTINGENCY PLANS.
UM, FIRST OF BEING IS, YOU KNOW, STARTING OUT THE FRONT, BEGINNING OF THIS WEEK, RUNNING SOME LONGER HOURS.
UH, SO LAST WEEK WE, WE WERE AVERAGING ABOUT A SEVEN TO TO TWO, UM, CONSTRUCTION TIME PERIOD.
UH, NOW WE'VE EXTENDED THOSE HOURS, UH, AN ADDITIONAL TWO HOURS, UH, TODAY, AND LIKELY DOING THAT AGAIN TOMORROW TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING OUT AHEAD OF IT EARLY RATHER THAN TRYING TO PLAY CATCH UP AT THE BACK END.
UM, WITH THAT, WE BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO MEET THIS DURATION AS, AS WE'VE HAD SCHEDULED AND COORDINATED WITH ATE.
UM, ALONG WITH THE CONTINGENCY PLAN, WE ALSO HAVE, UH, A FEW OTHER CONTINGENCY PLANS WHERE WE'RE PRIORITIZING THOSE RUNWAY SHUTDOWN AREAS.
SO ESSENTIALLY ANYTHING THAT'S WITHIN THE OBJECT FREE ZONE, UH, AS WELL AS THE TAXIWAY A ONE AND A FIVE CONNECTORS.
SO THAT WAY WE'RE ABLE TO PUT THOSE, UH, THOSE AREAS BACK TOGETHER PER THE FAA MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS JUST IN, IN, WITH THE HAND OR THE CARDS THAT WERE DEALT WITH IN BEING ABLE TO OPEN THIS UP WITH A FIVE DAY DURATION, BUT MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE STILL WITHIN ALL THE SAFETY COMPLIANCES AND GETTING THE, UH, THE RUNWAY BACK OPEN TO THE PILOTS WITHIN THESE FIVE DAYS, AS YOU KNOW, THAT TOP PRIORITY.
UM, WE DID HAVE, UH, AN UNFORTUNATE INCIDENT WHERE THE PAPPY, UH, CONDUIT, UH, WAS STRUCK AND IT DID HAVE THE EQUIPMENT DOWN.
UM, SOME GOOD NEWS ON THAT IS ONE, WE HAD THE, UH, WE HAD SCHEDULED THE PAPPY TO BE SHUT DOWN DURING THIS RUNWAY CLOSURE PERIOD THIS WEEK AS WELL.
SO, UM, THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A, A GOOD NEWS THERE, BUT THEN ALSO GEL'S RESPONSE TIME AND GETTING THEIR ELECTRICIANS OUT TO ONE, MAKE SURE THAT THAT CONDUIT WAS SAFE OFF.
SO WE DID NOT HAVE ANY UNSAFE ENVIRONMENT OUT THERE.
DASH, WITH ANOTHER HEROIC EFFORT AND MAKING SURE NO TAMS WERE RELEASED, UH, IMMEDIATELY TO NOTIFYING ANY OF THE PILOTS, UH, ON FRIDAY AND THROUGHOUT THE WEEKEND, THAT THAT PAPPY WOULD BE DOWN EARLIER THAN EXPECTED.
AND THEN ALSO GETTING COORDINATION WITH THE FAA, UH, LOCAL TECH
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OPS TO COME OUT ON SITE AND REVIEW THE CONDITIONS, WHICH THEY'LL ALSO BE BACK OUT ON TUESDAY, UH, TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE INTERMEDIATE REPAIR WE'VE DONE, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, TO DO A DIAGNOSIS OF ALL THE EQUIPMENT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT A LIST OF EVERYTHING THAT IS DOWN AS OF RIGHT NOW.UH, YEAH, IT DOES SEEM IT JUST NEEDS TO BE A CONDUIT AND CABLING REPAIR.
UH, SO GEL HAS THEIR, UH, ELECTRICIAN ORDERING THE CORRECT FAA SPLICE TO COME IN AND DO THAT WORK, UM, BEFORE WE REOPEN THAT RUNWAY ON NEXT MONDAY.
UM, THEN, UH, GINA AND DASH HAD ALSO BROUGHT UP, UH, JUST SOME CONCERNS, UH, PREVIOUSLY ABOUT, UH, EXCESSIVE DELAYS THAT WERE EXPERIENCED AT, UH, SOME OTHER LOCAL AIRPORTS AND BEING ABLE TO REOPEN THAT RUNWAY.
SO, UM, LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE SEVERAL CONTINGENCY PLANS IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF WE'RE NOT ABLE TO GET THE FULL, UH, TASKS THAT FOR THE ENTIRE AREA COMPLETE, WE ARE PRIORITIZING THOSE RUNWAY, UH, THOSE RUNWAY PRIORITY AREAS AND GETTING THOSE BACK OPEN AND COMPLETED PER THE FAA STANDARD SO THAT WAY WE CAN GET THE RUNWAY OPEN, UH, RUNNING THE ADDITIONAL, UM, AND THEN ALSO RUNNING THOSE ADDITIONAL, UH, OVERTIME HOURS.
UH, THERE WAS ALSO A, A CONCERN REGARDING, UM, UH, NATURALLY OCCURRING ASBESTOS IN THAT SUBGRADE, UH, AT THE AIRPORT.
UH, THERE IS, IT IS BUILT OFF OF, UH, IMPORTED SELECT FILL.
UM, WE WERE ABLE TO TRACK DOWN ALL THOSE RECORD DOCUMENTS FROM WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY, UH, CONSTRUCTED AND FIND THE, UM, AND FIND THE PIT THAT THIS MATERIAL WAS SOURCED FROM.
UH, AND THERE HAS BEEN NO RECORD OF ANY, UH, FINDING OF ASBESTOS FROM THAT, UH, MINING PIT.
SO THAT, THAT WAS ONE GOOD INDICATION.
AS WELL AS ALL THE PREVIOUS PROJECTS WE'VE HAD SO FAR, WE HAVE NOT COME ACROSS ANY ASBESTOS, UH, WITHIN THAT MATERIAL, HAVE ANY ISSUES AS WELL.
UM, SO WE, UH, WE ARE NOT EXPECTING ANY OTHER ASBESTOS, UH, CONCERNS FROM THAT, UH, FROM THAT SIDE AS WELL.
UH, HOWEVER, WE'RE STILL STAYING VIGILANT AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE STAYING AHEAD OF ANY KIND OF ISSUES AS, AS BEST AS WE CAN TO, UH, TRY AND CATCH IT, UH, EARLY AND, UH, MAKE SURE WE'RE COMMUNICATING THAT WITH DASH AND, UH, AND WITH THE TEAM TO, UH, DELIVER ULTIMATELY A GREAT PRODUCT FOR YOU.
UM, LIKE I SAID, THIS, THIS BEING A REHABILITATION, UH, NOT JUST A TWO INCH MILL AND OVERLAY, UH, YOU KNOW, GOING DOWN 30 INCHES, UM, LOOKING TO HAVE THIS, UH, PROVIDE A, AN ADDITIONAL, YOU KNOW, FIVE TO 10, AT LEAST FIVE TO 10 YEARS OF PAVEMENT LIFE, UH, FOR THIS TAXI AA, AS WELL AS RESOLVE A HUGE, UM, EDGE CRACKING ISSUE THAT SEEMS TO BE PRETTY CONSISTENT OUT THERE.
UM, YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A GENERAL UPDATE THERE.
I JUST HAD ONE QUICK QUESTION.
COULD YOU JUST CLARIFY THE OPENING, THE PROPOSED OPENING DATE FOR THE RUNWAY AGAIN AFTER THE SHUTDOWN? YEAH, SO WHAT WE HAVE IS, UH, OPENING AT, I THINK I SAID MONDAY, APOLOGIES, UH, I BELIEVE WE HAVE IT REOPENING BY THE END OF THE DAY, FRIDAY, I BELIEVE, RIGHT? UH, DASH IS THE END OF THAT NOAM, UM, MIDNIGHT.
SO THAT WAY BY THE WEEKEND WE'RE WRAPPED BACK UP AND OPERATIONAL.
IF WE REOPEN THE, AND YES, IF WE REOPEN THE, THE RUNWAY EARLIER, WE'LL TAKE DOWN THE NOTUMM EARLY IF NEEDED.
SO IF IT, IF WE'RE ABLE TO REOPEN AT TWO O'CLOCK, WE'LL WE'LL OPEN IT AT TWO.
IF IT'S SIX, SIX O'CLOCK, WE'LL REOPEN IT.
IF IT'S MIDNIGHT, WE'LL REOPEN IT AT MIDNIGHT.
SO IF END OF WORKDAY ON FRIDAY, UH, BARRING ANY, ANY, UH, UNFORESEEN ITEMS, WHICH AGAIN, WE HAVE CONTINUOUSLY PLANS SET UP TO TAKE CARE OF, UH, END OF THE DAY FRIDAY IS WHERE WE PLAN TO HAVE A WALKTHROUGH WITH DASH, OUR PROJECT REPRESENTATIVE OUT ON SITE, UH, AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS ALL SAFELY BROUGHT BACK UP TO STANDARDS BEFORE WE OPENING THAT RUNWAY.
AND I, I APOLOGIZE, I, I WAS OUT OF TOWN FOR OUR LAST MEETING WHEN MO SOME OF THIS INFORMATION MAY HAVE BEEN PRESENTED, BUT, UM, WE HAVE FIRST RUNWAY CLOSURE LISTED.
UM, ARE THERE GUARANTEED TO BE MORE? AND IF SO, COULD WE PLEASE REMIND ME OF WHEN THOSE ARE GONNA BE? YEAH, SO WE DO HAVE, UH, ONE MORE ADDITIONAL RUNWAY CLOSURE AGAIN, UH, SCHEDULED AND PLAN TO MAINTAIN THAT FIVE DAY CLOSURE.
UH, SO AFTER THIS WEEK'S, WE WILL HAVE A TWO WEEK, UM, PRETTY MUCH A SET UP PERIOD TO MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT EVERYTHING IN PLACE FOR THOSE SECOND RUNWAY CLOSURE, WHICH MAINLY WILL CONSIST OF THE, UH, ASPHALT PAVEMENT PLACEMENT.
UM, SO WE'LL BE DOING CONTROLLED TEST STRIPS, UH, ALL THE OTHER ANCILLARY WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, UH, OUTSIDE OF THOSE, UH, RUNWAY CLOSURE AREAS.
UH, SO THAT WAY, UH, KIND OF SIMILAR TO WHAT THIS WEEK, ONCE WE COME TO MONDAY, WE HAVE EVERYTHING IN PLACE AND, AND A GOOD PLAN SET FORWARD TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE HITTING THAT FIVE DAYS AND, UM, THAT, SO YEAH, THAT WILL BE SCHEDULED FOR, UH, THREE WEEKS FROM NOW.
UH, I'M, I'M BLANKING, SORRY, ON THE DATE OF THE EXACT CLOSURE.
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SO THE 13TH? YES, I BELIEVE SO.I KNOW, YEAH, IT, I BELIEVE IT'S THE, THE WEEK I, AFTER THE 4TH OF JULY, NOT THE FOLLOWING WEEK, BUT THAT, THAT FOLLOWING THE WEEK AFTER.
AND WE FEEL THAT COMMUNICATION HAS BEEN ADEQUATE WITH FOLKS THAT NEED TO KNOW THE SIGN IS NICE, BUT, OR YEAH, THIS IS, WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING THAT PEOPLE ARE LIKE, WHAT IS, WHAT'S GOING ON? OR, I THINK THE SIGN HELPED A LOT, JUST REMIND PEOPLE THE EXACT DATES.
'CAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE THEY KNEW KNEW IT WAS COMING, BUT WEREN'T SURE THE EXACT DATES.
AND THEN HAVING THE NOTE 'EM UP AND THEN ALSO HAVING IT ON THE A OS.
UM, SO FAR I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S TRIED TO LAND, BUT I THINK BETWEEN ALL THOSE THINGS, I'M HOPING THAT THAT'LL PREVENT ANYBODY FROM
AND, UM, BEFORE WE CLOSE OUT OUR, UM, MANAGER'S REPORT, I JUST WANTED TO CIRCLE BACK TO MAKE SURE, SINCE WE PRESENTED AS AN ATTACHMENT, THE, UH, THE NEW COGS REPORT, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, COMMISSIONERS WERE COMFORTABLE, UH, READING THAT AND UNDERSTANDING THAT.
AND IF, IF, UH, CHAIR, IF YOU WANTED, UM, UH, DASH COULD DO A REAL QUICK WALKTHROUGH ON, ON THOSE TWO SIMPLE CHARTS, THAT WOULD BE EXCELLENT THANK YOU, DASH, IF YOU'D DO THAT.
YEAH, SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT IT IS, IT, UM, OUTLINES THE DAY.
SO EVERY MONDAY WE GET A, A REPORT FROM OUR FUEL SUPPLIER ON THE PRICE OF FUEL.
UM, AND WHAT THIS, UM, THE SHEET BASICALLY SHOWS, IT SHOWS THE, UM, THE DROP IN PRICE COMPARED TO THE PRIOR WEEK.
AND SO, UM, IT SHOWS THE, THE, THE, THE ENUMERATED PRICE WHERE IT GOES INTO THE THOUSANDS OF CENTS, TENS OF THOUSANDS OF CENTS.
UM, IT SHOWS THE, THE AMOUNT OF DROP THAT YOU SEE THAT IN, IN THAT WEEK.
UM, AND SO FOR, FOR JET FUEL, WE'VE SEEN A 70 CENT DROP OVER THE COURSE OF, OVER THE COURSE OF A MONTH.
UM, IT SHOWS THE PRICE AND WHAT A NOMINAL TERM IS.
SO IT'S NOT, IT'S MORE LEGIBLE.
AND THEN IT ALSO SHOWS THE PERCENT OF CHANGE THAT, UM, WE SAW THAT WEEK, WHETHER IT WAS LIKE A, A A SIX AND A HALF PERCENT DROP OR A FOUR AND THREE QUARTERS PERCENT RAISE IT, IT OUTLINES HOW MUCH CHANGE THAT WE'RE SEEING PER WEEK.
UM, AND SO THIS IS HOW WE'RE STARTING TO WORK INTERNALLY TO RECOGNIZE WHEN WE WANT TO ORDER FUEL AND HOW WE WANNA PRICE OUT, UM, FUEL FOR THE WEEK IN A MORE OF AN, A MORE UNDERSTANDABLE TERMINOLOGY.
UM, THIS PROBABLY IT'S, THIS IS THE FIRST ITERATION OF THIS.
THERE WILL PROBABLY BE A MORE CLEAR VERSION THE NEXT TIME WE MEET.
UM, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE LEGIBLE, BUT INTERNALLY, THIS IS WHAT WE USE AND I WANTED TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT THIS INFORMATION TO YOU GUYS, ESPECIALLY AS WE GO INTO THE SUMMER FLYING MONTHS.
AND THAT CONCLUDES OUR MANAGER'S REPORT.
WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.
UM, DO ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON WHAT WAS SHARED? NO.
WELL, WITH THAT, UM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A CALL TO ORDER.
ARE YOU GONNA ADJOURN THIS TIME?
WHY DON'T I, WHAT ARE WE DOING? ALL RIGHT.
UH, SO WE WILL ADJOURN THIS EVENING AT, UH, SEVEN 18, UH, WITH GRATITUDE FOR ALL OF OUR SPECIAL GUESTS TONIGHT.