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GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO THE
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18TH MEETING OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISOR COMMITTEE FOR WEDNESDAY, JUNE 24TH, 2026.IF YOU WISH TO PROVIDE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, PLEASE FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD IN THE BACK OF THE CHAMBER AND BRING IT TO THE COMMITTEE CLERK.
AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO ASK THE CLERK TO TAKE ROLE DOVE, PETRI, PRESENT MACIAS HERE.
AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO LEAD THE CHAMBER ON THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
[GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT]
PUBLIC COMMENT.DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON ITEMS OF PUBLIC INTEREST THAT ARE WITHIN THE COMMITTEE'S SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION, AND THAT ARE NOT LISTED ON THE CURRENT AGENDA.
PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED UP TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON.
DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF PERSONS WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE, TIME WILL BE ALLOCATED IN EQUAL SHARES, TOTALING NO MORE THAN 15 MINUTES.
UH, CLERK, HAVE WE RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING? YES.
WE RECEIVED SEVEN COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING, AND THOSE HAVE BEEN POSTED ONLINE AND WE HAVE TWO IN PERSON.
AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO OPEN GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT AND ASK SPEAKERS TO BRING THEIR CARDS TO THE CLERK'S DESK AND INVITE THE CLERK TO READ GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT INSTRUCTIONS.
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC SHOULD BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARDS TO THE CLERK'S DESK IF THEY HAVE NOT ALREADY DONE SO.
SPEAKERS ARE REMINDED TO BE RESPECTFUL IN THEIR COMMENTS, THREATS OF VIOLENCE AND OBSCENITY OR GROUNDS FOR REMOVAL FROM THIS MEETING, A COUNTDOWN WILL APPEAR FOR THE CONVENIENCE OF THE SPEAKER AND VIEWERS.
THE FIRST SPEAKER WILL BE ACKNOWLEDGED AND INVITED TO SPEAK WHEN THE COUNTDOWN BEGINS.
RIGHT NOW I HAVE TWO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
SPEAKER CARDS WILL ALLOW THREE MINUTES PER EACH COMMENT, AND I LIKE TO CALL ON THE FIRST PERSON, WHICH IS KADE GUPTA, TO GO AHEAD AND COME UP AND SPEAK.
CAN, CAN YOU HEAR ME? I'M BLOWN AWAY.
YOU PRONOUNCED MY NAME PERFECTLY.
NOBODY DOES THAT, SO THANK YOU.
UH, MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, UH, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE.
UH, MY NAME IS KNA GUPTA, AS YOU SAID, SO PERFECTLY.
I'M A SOMEWHAT RECENT TRANSPLANT.
I MOVED HERE, UH, WITH MY PARTNER A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO, UH, FROM MINNEAPOLIS.
AND WE ARE, UH, CURRENTLY IN THE MCDOWELL PARK AREA.
IT'S MY FIRST TIME IN CITY HALL, FIRST TIME DOING THIS.
UM, I'M A SOFTWARE ENGINEER THAT WORKS IN CLOUD BLA, CLOUD-BASED SOFTWARE.
UM, AND I COME TO YOU TODAY, UH, TO COMMENT ON, UH, THE CITY'S USAGE OF FLOCK ALPS.
UM, SPENT A LOT OF TIME LATELY, UH, CATCHING UP ON WHAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS WITH RESPECT TO THIS ISSUE.
UM, IN THAT RESEARCH, I'VE COME TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS COMMITTEE AND THE CITY HAVE DONE A LOT OF WORK TO HEAR PUBLIC CONCERNS REGARDING THE CITY'S RELATIONSHIP WITH FLOCK.
AND, YOU KNOW, I I THINK THAT THE, UM, ACCESS AND RETENTION POLICIES ARE, YOU KNOW, REALLY IMPORTANT MEANINGFUL STEPS TOWARDS BUILDING PUBLIC TRUST.
I DO THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO, UH, THINK CRITICALLY ABOUT THE IMPACT OF DEPLOYING FLOCK'S CAMERAS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
UM, SO I WAS READING THROUGH THE LICENSING MODEL DOCUMENTS.
UH, THE LICENSING MODEL IS SET UP IN SUCH A WAY THAT FLOCK DOES QUOTE, SECURELY HOST PROCESS AND MAINTAIN THE SYSTEMS ON THE CITY'S BEHALF.
END QUOTE, THAT'S, UH, GRABBED FROM THE EXHIBIT A DOCUMENT, UH, FROM JANUARY 29TH MEETING.
UM, AND EVEN IF THE CITY OF PETALUMA LEGALLY OWNS ALL OF THE LICENSING RIGHTS TO THIS DATA, UH, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE ACTUAL DATA SOURCE OF TRUTH LIVES PHYSICALLY ON FLOCK'S SERVERS.
UM, AND WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, THE IMPLICATION IS THAT THERE'S A FUNDAMENTAL TRUST THAT THE CITY IS PLACING UPON THIS PRIVATE COMPANY THAT IT WILL ABIDE BY THESE ACCESS AND RETENTION POLICIES OVER TIME.
AND I COULD GET INTO ALL KINDS OF SPECULATIVE EXAMPLES ABOUT WHAT FLOCK WOULD BE ABLE TO DO OR NOT DO WITH THAT DATA, SINCE IT IS, YOU KNOW, HOSTED ON THEIR SERVERS.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S PRODUCTIVE.
UH, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD FOCUS ON THE ACTUAL TRACK RECORD OF FLOCK.
UH, YOU KNOW, IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS THERE'S BEEN SUBSTANTIAL REPORTING ON THEIR MISHANDLING OF THIS DATA.
I'LL HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES FROM THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
UH, THERE'S A RECENT NPR ARTICLE THAT TALKED ABOUT SANTA CRUZ.
UH, THEY WERE AMONG A NUMBER OF CALIFORNIA CITIES THAT LEARNED THAT THEIR LOCAL DATA
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HAD BEEN SHARED WITH FLOCKS NATIONAL NETWORK WITHOUT THE CITY, UH, CITY OFFICIALS KNOWLEDGE OR INTENT.UM, IT WAS ALARMING TO SOME OFFICIALS GIVEN THAT THE STATE LAWS FORBID CITIES FROM SHARING LICENSE PLATE DATA WITH FEDERAL OUT-OF-STATE AGENCIES.
SAN FRANCISCO ALSO MOST RECENTLY HAD AN AUDIT THAT FOUND THAT, UH, FEDERAL AND OUT-OF-STATE AGENCIES IMPROPERLY SEARCHED THE SF LICENSE PLATE DATA AND GATHERED, UM, YEAH, JUST POLICE FLOCK SYSTEM DATA FROM THE SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS.
UH, THE POLICE CHIEF WAS QUOTED TO HAVE SAYING, UH, IT'S NO SECRET THAT, UH, APRS ARE CONTROVERSIAL TO TOOL AND THERE ARE A LOT OF PRIVACY CONCERNS.
SORRY, WE HAVE TO CUT YOU OFF THERE, BUT THANK YOU.
UH, IT WAS BASICALLY EXTENSION OF WHAT I HAD ALREADY, SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
UH, NEXT UP IS NINA ZITO, COUNCIL MEMBER, REPRESENTATIVE, AND CHIEF AND STAFF AND EVERYONE.
UM, I AM FEELING LIKE WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF CATCH UP ON A PAPERWORK, UM, MATTER.
AS WE MISSED A MEETING, WE ARE NOW APPROVING APRIL MINUTES.
WE HAD SOME ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION THAT, UM, SEEMED, UH, CRITICAL TO PLANNING AND MOVING AHEAD, CONSIDERING, UH, WHAT'S LATER ON OUR AGENDA TODAY, TODAY, THE, UH, MILITARY, UH, SURPLUS BUDGET, ET CETERA.
AND, UM, I, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE STILL AWAITING, UH, UH, USE OF FORCE AND RIPPA DATA.
AND I, I, I THINK IT WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PERHAPS SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR THIS.
IT COULD COME JUST, IT, IT COULD BE LIKE A SPREADSHEET, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT COULD EASILY, I, I'M NOT DOING IT, BUT I CAN IMAGINE IT WOULD BE A STRAIGHTFORWARD PROCESS TO SAY, HEY, WE'VE GOT IT.
YOU KNOW, WE NEED LIKE THREE WEEKS TO THINK ABOUT IT.
BUT I FEEL LIKE, UM, I'M MISSING SOMETHING.
I, I, I THINK WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR SOME INFORMATION AND WHEN A MEETING IS CANCELED, LIKE WHY WE, MAYBE THERE WASN'T AN AGENDA ITEM SUBMITTED, BUT WE HAD SOMETHING PENDING.
SO LIKE, TICK, TICK, TICK, FRIENDS.
'CAUSE WE GOTTA TALK ABOUT SOMETHING IMPORTANT TODAY.
AND I PERSONALLY AM NOT COMFORTABLE APPROVING JUST GLOBALLY, YOU KNOW, MILITARY EQUIPMENT.
AND LIKE DRONES, THIS IS A WHOLE NEW THING.
WE HAD DRAWN SURVEILLANCE AND, YOU KNOW, NOW WE, THEY COULD BE DELIVERING MUNITIONS OR FLASH BANGS OR GOD KNOWS WHAT.
I KNOW THEY'VE BEEN USEFUL, BUT I'M STILL WAITING TO KNOW, LIKE, WHO GOT PULLED OVER AND WHY WAS FORCE USED.
AND, AND A REMINDER, THESE ACRONYMS ARE IN CHEMICAL TO UNDERSTANDING IT.
IT MAY BE LIKE, YOU KNOW, COOL TO UOF OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER.
BUT USE OF FORCE IS USE OF FORCE.
AND LET'S NOT FORGET IT'S FORCE.
AND IT NEEDS TO BE SPOKEN OUT LOUD BECAUSE IT'S DELIVERED AGAINST US, RIGHT? UH, AND, UH, PEOPLE OF, OF, UH, DIFFERENT HERITAGES.
AND THAT'S EVER MORE IMPORTANT THESE DAYS IN A, UH, UH, KIND OF FRACTIONALIZED, FRACTIONALIZED, UH, CLIMATE.
UH, IF THERE ARE NO MORE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, UM, AT THIS TIME, WE WILL CLOSE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT AND CONTINUE WITH THE AGENDA.
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OF MINUTES IS NEXT.I'D LIKE TO ASK IF THERE ARE ANY CHANGES OR CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES FOR THE MEETING OF APRIL 22ND, 2026.
IF NONE, THEN I WILL DEEM THE MINUTES APPROVED AS PRESENTED.
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OUR FIRST PRESENTATION.UH, WE'RE GONNA RECEIVE A PRESENTATION FROM PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMITTEE, MONTHLY STATS CHART FROM OUR INDEPENDENT POLICE AUDITOR AND DISCUSS.
I'D LIKE TO CALL ON THE INDEPENDENT POLICE AUDITOR AND INTRODUCE DENISE LEWIS AND JEFF SCHLANGER FROM INTEGRA.
TO PROVIDE A PRESENTATION AND COMMENT ON THE MONTHLY STATS.
THANKS VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR, UM, MEMBERS, STAFF, AND THE PUBLIC.
UH, WE APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY.
AND IN A MOMENT, DENISE WILL BE PRESENTING THE STATS FOR BOTH THIS MONTH AND LAST MONTH.
UM, BUT BEFORE WE GET TO THAT, I JUST WANT TO, UH, THANK THE DEPARTMENT,
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UH, FOR HOSTING US, UH, TWO WEEKS AGO, UH, FOR OUR PRESENTATION OF THE ANNUAL REPORT, UH, TO CITY COUNCIL.I THINK, UH, THE REPORT, WHICH WAS THE SAME ONE, WHICH WAS PRESENTED, UH, TO THIS BODY, UH, A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, UM, WAS WELL RECEIVED.
AND I APPRECIATE, UH, THE CHIEF'S COMMENTS, UH, POST THAT PRESENTATION.
SO, THANK YOU, CHIEF, UH, THANK YOU, UH, TO THIS BODY WHO, UM, GAVE US SOME USEFUL SUGGESTIONS, UH, FOR THE REPORT.
AND NOW I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DENISE.
UM, SO I THINK YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU ON THE SCREEN THERE IS THE APRIL STATS.
UM, WE, WE DECIDED TO DO TWO SEPARATE REPORTS, UM, EVEN THOUGH YOU DIDN'T HAVE A MEETING THEN, WE JUST WANTED TO HAVE IT FOR CONTINUITY.
UH, SO AS YOU RECALL THE, THE NUMBER OF USES OF FORCE, IF WE LOOK AT THAT SET OF NUMBERS, THERE WERE SIX USES OF FORCE IN APRIL.
AND I DON'T NEED TO GO THROUGH EACH OF THOSE, ESPECIALLY 'CAUSE I'M ABOUT TO DO THE SAME THING FOR MAY.
BUT JUST AS A, A KIND OF A REMINDER OF HOW THIS IS SET UP, UM, IT'LL SHOW YOU THE NUMBER OF PURSUITS.
THERE WERE THREE, AND THE NUMBER OF NEW COMPLAINTS WERE ALSO THREE.
THE COMMENTS AT THE BOTTOM, THE NOTES OF REVIEWED CASES, THOSE COMMENTS RELATE TO THE CASES THAT WE'VE REVIEWED.
SO THEY DON'T NECESSARILY, THEY DON'T RELATE TO THE NEW CASES, BUT THE, THE NUMBER THAT WE REVIEWED, SO WE REVIEWED SEVEN USES OF FORCE IN APRIL, AND FOUR OF THOSE SEVEN WERE DISPLAY OF FORCE ONLY.
ANY QUESTIONS ON APRIL BEFORE I MOVE TO MAY? I JUST WANNA THANK YOU NOW FOR INCLUDING ABOUT WHAT THE COMPLAINTS WERE FOR AND, AND WHAT HAPPENED.
I THINK THAT'S A NEW ADDITION AND APPRECIATE THAT.
UM, THOUGHT WE'D GIVE A LITTLE MORE CONTEXT.
ARE WE ALLOWED TO ASK WHAT? I NOTICED THAT THERE WAS, UH, TWO ACAS IN MARCH AND THEN ONE IN APRIL.
ARE WE ALLOWED TO ASK WHAT THE ACAS WERE? GET ANY INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THOSE REPRESENT? YOU DEFINITELY ARE ALLOWED TO, BUT, UM, IN APRIL, I SEE THERE WAS ONLY ONE IN, IT HAD TO DO WITH THE USE OF FORCE THAT WE REVIEWED.
UH, ONE IN APRIL, TWO IN MARCH OH OH TWO IN MAY.
IS THAT WHERE, IS THAT WHERE YOU'RE GETTING TO? NO.
OH, OH, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
YOU MEAN FROM BEFORE THE, SO I CAN'T GO BACK THIS QUICKLY IN TO MARCH, BUT I CAN COMMENT ON THE APRIL JUST BECAUSE I WAS PREPARED FOR THAT.
I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT ASK, UM, I CAN GO BACK IF I NEED TO, UM, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY IN MAY, BUT YES, ON THE ACA, UM, I JUST WROTE MYSELF A NOTE.
UH, LET ME, LET ME TELL YOU WHAT, AND IF, AS A REMINDER TO EVERYONE, THE ACAS ARE AGREED UPON COURSE OF ACTION.
AND THOSE RELATE TO A CASE THAT WE WOULD'VE REVIEWED.
AND THERE WAS AN ISSUE THAT NEEDED SOME FURTHER ACTION WHERE, SO ALL OF THE OTHER CASES WE REVIEWED, THERE COULD HAVE BEEN ACTION TAKEN BY THE DEPARTMENT, BUT THERE WAS NO FURTHER ACTION NEEDED.
SO ON THIS ONE CASE, THERE WAS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND THE ACA RELATED TO THE DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS AN AGREED UPON COURSE OF ACTION THAT THE DEPARTMENT WOULD PUT OUT TRAINING POINTS DEPARTMENT WIDE.
SO IT WAS TO EVERYBODY REGARDING THE USE OF MULTIPLE TASERS.
SO DEPLOYING MULTIPLE TASERS OR TASERS AT THE SAME TIME.
UM, THE, THE, AN EVALUATION OF A PARTICULAR CANINE, AND THEY WERE GONNA REEMPHASIZE THE POLICY ON PROFANITY 'CAUSE SOMETHING CAME UP.
SO THAT'S WHAT THAT ACA WAS FOR.
SO THANK YOU FOR ASKING CHAIR.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON APRIL? YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION.
I GUESS I AM CONFUSED BY THE, SO THERE CAN BE 3, 4, 5 THINGS THAT ARE AGREED UPON THAT ARE, THAT ARE COUNTED AS ONE ACA IN THIS CASE IT WAS ONE BECAUSE IT HAD TO DO WITH THE ONE CASE WE REVIEWED.
SO IT'S BEING QUANTIFIED BY THE CASE ITSELF, NOT BY HOW MANY THINGS WITHIN THE CASE WERE CORRECT.
UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW BURDENSOME IT WOULD BE TO MM-HMM
I MEAN, BECAUSE I THINK IT DOES MATTER WHETHER IT WAS ONE THING OR, OR MORE THAN ONE THING.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF OTHERS AGREE, BUT I FEEL LIKE YOU COULD, NOT INTENTIONALLY NECESSARILY, BUT MAYBE KIND OF SHIELD US FROM HOW MANY THINGS WERE AGREED UPON WHEN, YOU KNOW, ONE IS IS MUCH LESS THAN THREE OR FOUR.
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JUST SOMETHING TO, TO THINK ABOUT.I GUESS A COUPLE THINGS ON THAT, AND I'LL LET JEFF SPEAK TO IT IF HE WANTS, BUT WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT IN THIS CASE, IT WAS ONE TRAINING BULLETIN THAT WAS GONNA GO OUT TO REMIND OFFICERS ABOUT THESE, THESE THINGS.
SO IT, TO ME, IT WAS ONE, UM, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING BECAUSE IT COVERED MULTIPLE TOPICS, UM, AND WHETHER OR NOT WE COULD QUANTIFY THE TOPICS AND WHETHER WE SHOULD, UM, I, I WAS THINKING THAT MAYBE IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO ADD THAT NOTE AS A NOTE AT THE BOTTOM AND DESCRIBE THOSE OFFICE FOR THAT MONTH.
THERE ARE REALLY NOT VERY MANY, SO IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO JUST GIVE YOU THAT DETAIL ON THE BOTTOM.
AND THAT WAY IT'S TRANSPARENT, JEFF.
YEAH, I THINK WE HAVE TO DISCUSS IT WITH THE DEPARTMENT, UH, AND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY CONSIDER THAT.
BUT WITH REGARD TO THE NUMBER OF ACAS, UH, AND AGREED UPON COURSE OF ACTION, AS FOR A PARTICULAR REVIEW AND MAY INCLUDE MULTIPLE ITEMS. SO I THINK WE JUST NEED A WAY OF DELINEATING WHETHER IT WAS ONE CASE OR TWO CASES OR THREE CASES.
AND AGAIN, I THINK JUST TO REITERATE WHAT DENISE SAID, IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT THIS DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE OTHER CASES THAT WE REVIEWED WERE, WERE PERFECT IN EVERY RESPECT.
IT DOES MEAN THAT ITEMS WHICH WERE LESS THAN PERFECT, UM, AND DID NOT BECOME ACAS WERE PICKED UP, UM, IN THE INTERNAL SUPERVISORY REVIEW.
AND THEREFORE THERE WAS NO NEED FOR A, A COURSE OF ACTION AS IT HAD ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED.
SO IT WAS NOT ONLY PICKED UP DURING THE REVIEW, BUT THE COMMAND STAFF TOOK ACTION ON IT.
SO THERE WAS NO FURTHER ACTION REQUIRED.
AND THEN DENISE, DENISE, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY TOO, AND MAYBE I MISHEARD YOU WHEN YOU WERE, YOU WERE DEFINING THE FIRST POINT IN THE ACA, BUT IT WAS MY RECOLLECTION THAT IT, IT WASN'T MULTIPLE APPLICATIONS OF A TASER.
IT WAS TWO OFFICERS THAT WERE DISPLAYING A TASER AT THE SAME TIME.
AND SO THE, THE COMMENTARY WAS TO AVOID THE POTENTIAL OF TWO APPLICATIONS SIMULTANEOUSLY.
AND SO THAT IS ADVISABLE, THAT WOULD BE RECOMMENDED, UH, A RECOMMENDATION, AND THAT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE WOULD EXPECT.
BUT I WANT TO CLARIFY, WE DIDN'T, THERE WAS NOT AN INCIDENT WHERE WE HAD TWO OFFICERS, UH, ADMINISTERING MULTIPLE APPLICATIONS TO AN INDIVIDUAL, UH, OF A TASER.
IT WAS THAT TWO, THERE WAS NOT AN APPLICATION OF A TASER, BUT THAT THERE WAS TWO SHOWS OF FORCE OF TASERS.
AND SO THERE COULD HAVE BEEN A LIKELIHOOD THAT IF THERE HAD BEEN A USE OF FORCE OR BOTH OFFICERS HAD USED A FORCE SIMULTANEOUSLY THAT THAT COULD HAVE OCCURRED.
AND SO THIS WAS A, AN ACA ABOUT THAT TRAINING BULLETIN TO REDUCE THE LIKELIHOOD OF ONE OF THOSE TYPE OF AN EVENTS, WHICH WAS A PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATION.
IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS ON APRIL, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN GET THAT ON THE SCREEN OR IF YOU DID THAT ALREADY.
SO I'LL JUST KIND OF BRIEFLY GO OVER THE, THE NUMBERS.
SO FOR MAY, UM, THERE WERE SEVEN USES OF FORCE, AND OF THOSE SEVEN, TWO WERE DISPLAYS.
THERE WERE, UM, TWO USES, OR SORRY, TWO PURSUITS AND THREE COMPLAINTS THAT OCCURRED ON THE USE OF FORCE.
SEVEN WERE REVIEWED BY THE DEPARTMENT, OR SORRY, THREE WERE, WERE REVIEWED BY THE DEPARTMENT, SEVEN REVIEWED BY US.
AND THERE WERE NO ACAS REQUIRED WITH REGARD TO PURSUITS.
THERE WERE THREE REVIEWED BY THE DEPARTMENT, ONE BY US.
AND AGAIN, NO ACAS REGARDING THAT PURSUIT.
UH, ON THE COMPLAINTS THE DEPARTMENT REVIEWED ONE, WE REVIEWED TWO AND THERE WERE NO ACAS.
SO IN MAY THERE WERE NO ACAS NEEDED.
AND JUST TO RE JUST TO REMIND EVERYONE FOR THE NEW USES OF FORCE, IT'S ACCUMULATIVE COLUMN.
SO THERE WEREN'T SEVEN NEW USES OF FORCE IN THE MONTH OF MAY.
THAT'S INCLUDING THE USES OF FORCE THAT WERE STILL ROLLED OVER FROM APRIL? NO.
SO THIS, THERE ACTUALLY WERE SEVEN IN MAY.
SO A ACTUAL APPLICATION OF FORCE FIVE, BUT THERE WERE FIVE NEW USES OF FORCE.
THE CUMULATIVE TOTAL IS AT THE BOTTOM.
SO FOR THE WHOLE YEAR THERE WAS 33.
UM, BUT AGAIN, NOT ALL OF THOSE ARE APPLICATIONS OF FORCE.
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THOSE ARE DISPLAY.I'M GETTING THE FEELING WE SHOULD BREAK THOSE OUT INTO A COLUMN.
UM, THE DISPLAYS SO THAT IT'S VERY CLEAR HOW MANY ARE DISPLAYS AND HOW MANY ARE ACTUAL USE OF FORCE.
UH, BUT AS FAR AS THE TOTAL ACROSS, IF WE JUST READ ACROSS MAY 13 IS THE, THE TOTAL THAT ARE PENDING REVIEW.
SO THEY HAVEN'T FINISHED THE INTERNAL SUPERVISORY REVIEW.
THEY'RE IN THE QUEUE BEING REVIEWED.
THE SEVEN ARE THE NEW AND THEN REVIEWED BY THE DEPARTMENTS.
THOSE OF, SO OF THAT, THE TOTAL PENDING, THEY'RE REVIEWING, THEY'VE REVIEWED THREE, WE REVIEWED SEVEN, AND THERE WERE NO AUGUST.
DOES THAT MAKING SENSE? AND, AND JUST TO PUT A FINAL POINT ON IT, THE WAY WE, WE REVIEW SEVEN WHEN THEY'VE ONLY REVIEWED THREE, MEAN THAT THERE WERE FOUR FROM THE PRIOR MONTH THAT WE REVIEWED AS WELL.
SO THAT'S JUST A A FINE POINT.
SO ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON MAY? I, IT'S NOT ON ACTUALLY ON MAY, BUT IT'S ABOUT BASICALLY THE CATEGORIES.
I DON'T, I KNOW, I KNOW THIS STARTED WITH JULIA SAYING WE NEEDED MORE INFORMATION AND WE, YOU STARTED PUTTING OUT THESE CATEGORIES, BUT I HAPPEN TO HAVE SEEN THE, THE NICKEL THAT, UM, THE DEPARTMENT PUT OUT ABOUT 37 TRAFFIC STOPS, UM, AND ISSUING 17 CITATIONS DURING AN E-BIKE, E SCOOTER SAFETY OPERATION.
AND I, I, YOU KNOW, I SEE THESE THAT THERE'S, UM, BIG SAFETY OPERATIONS AND YOU HAVE A LOT OF, A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT COMES OUT.
I MEAN, ACTUALLY NOT A LOT OF INFORMATION, BUT THAT IT'S, THIS HAS HAPPENED.
AND I'M WONDERING, IS ANYBODY TRACKING THOSE SAFETY OPERATION STOPS? IF THERE SHOULD BE MAYBE A CATEGORY TO SAY HOW MANY WERE THOSE AND ARE THEY GETTING REVIEWED? AND DO WE KNOW WHAT NEIGHBORHOODS THOSE STOPS ARE TAKING PLACE AND THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING STOPPED? JUST TO GET SOME IDEA OF MORE OF WHAT THE, THE DEPARTMENT IS DOING FOR COMMUNICATION WISE.
SO YEAH, OUR MANDATE IS, IS CLEAR AND, UH, SPECIFIC RELATIVE TO THE CATEGORIES OF, UH, POLICE ACTIVITY THAT WE LOOK AT.
UM, I THINK THE CHIEF CAN ADDRESS, UM, OTHER STATISTICS, UH, RELATIVE TO POLICE ACTIVITY.
AND CERTAINLY, I, I THINK IT WOULD NOT BE INAPPROPRIATE FOR A, UH, A PRESENTATION FROM THE DEPARTMENT RELATIVE TO OTHER CATEGORIES OF, UH, OF ACTIVITY.
BUT WE, THAT'S BEYOND OUR SCOPE.
AND, UH, THAT'S A, AN ISSUE WITH THE, AGAIN, THE SCOPE OF THE CONTRACT, THE SCOPE OF THE ORDINANCE AND OUR AGREEMENT WITH THE, THE CITY.
AND MAYBE, UH, YEAH, MAYBE THIS WAS THE WRONG PLACE TO, YOU KNOW, ASK ABOUT IT.
I JUST WONDER, ARE, ARE, ARE, IS THE, ARE THE, IS THE DEPARTMENT KEEPING KIND OF TRACK OF WHEN THESE ARE BIG OPERATIONS? YOU KNOW, WHEN THERE'S A DUI SAFETY OPERATION, WHEN THERE'S ALL THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF SAFETY OPERATIONS, IS THERE, ARE, IS THERE ANY, IS THERE ANY KEEPING TRACK OF WHO THESE PEOPLE ARE AND WHERE, WHERE THIS HAPPENED? YEAH.
I, I, I THINK, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION.
SO EVERY SINGLE INCIDENT THAT WE ENCOUNTER, SO WHETHER IT'S A TRAFFIC STOP, WHETHER IT'S A CALL FOR SERVICE, WHETHER IT'S, UM, A REPORT, UM, ANY INDIVIDUAL THAT WE INTERACT WITH THAT WE ISSUE A CITATION, TAKE A POLICE REPORT FROM THAT CALLS IN, THAT WE GET THEIR INFORMATION, UM, THAT IS ENTERED INTO OUR COMPUTER-AIDED DISPATCHING SYSTEM, CAD OR OUR REPORT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, RMS AND THOSE SYSTEMS, UM, ARE THEY, THOSE DOCUMENT ALL THOSE INTERACTIONS.
SO, UM, WE, WHEN WE SPEAK ABOUT OUR 60,000 CALLS FOR SERVICE, THERE IS AN EVENT NUMBER FOR EVERY SINGLE 60,000 CALLS FOR SERVICE.
SO EVERY SINGLE TRAFFIC, BUT THIS IS, BUT I'M NOT, I'M SO SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
BUT THIS IS, THIS IS IN, UM, INITIATED BY YOU.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT BEING CALLED TO SERVICE.
YOU'RE DOING A SAFETY OPERATION AND YOU DO A LOT OF THEM.
THAT'S PART OF WHAT YOU GUYS DO.
AND I JUST, I MEAN, MAYBE NO ONE ELSE IS INTERESTED IN THIS, BUT ABOUT WHERE ARE THESE STOPS? LIKE YOU'RE, THIS IS ABOUT E-BIKES SAFETY.
WAS IT LIKE, WERE YOU LOOKING AT KIND OF BY SCHOOLS? WERE YOU LOOKING AT LIKE SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOODS? LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT? RIGHT, BUT, SO, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF THING.
SO, SO EVERY TIME WE DO A TRAFFIC STOP, WE HAVE TO RADIO THAT TRAFFIC STOP IN.
IT CREATES AN EVENT SPECIFIC, UM, EVENT IN THAT, SO THAT'S CAPTURED AND MEMORIALIZED IN THOSE 60,000 CALLS FOR SERVICE.
IT WILL CREATE A RECORD IN THAT SYSTEM SAYING, THIS
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OFFICER AT THIS TIME, AT THIS LOCATION CONDUCTED THIS TYPE OF INCIDENT.SO IF I PULLED, UH, DID A TRAFFIC STOP ON YOU IN DOWNTOWN, IT WILL SAY THAT I PULLED OVER, UM, CONDUCTED A TRAFFIC STOP AT THIS LOCATION ON THIS VEHICLE WITH THIS DESCRIPTION.
UM, IF I, UH, CONDUCTED A RECORDS QUERY ON THE DRIVER, RAN THEIR DRIVER'S LICENSE, IT WOULD SHOW AND ATTACHED THAT DRIVER'S LICENSE, NAME AND RECORD.
UM, IF WE CHECKED THEIR LICENSE STATUS, THOSE RECORDS WOULD BE ATTACHED TO THAT SAME INCIDENT IN THERE.
AND IF THERE WAS AN ENFORCEMENT ACTION TAKEN, SUBSEQUENTLY A CITATION OR AN ARREST, THOSE ARE ATTACHED AND THAT BECOMES THE CASE FILE IN THAT INCIDENT.
AND 'CAUSE OF RIPPA, YOU WOULD HAVE TO ALSO PUT THE DEMOGRAPHICS, OR AT LEAST WHAT YOU DEMO IS, IS A MANDATORY REQUIREMENT YEAH.
SO ANY TRAFFIC STOP HAS A MANDATORY REQUIREMENT FOR A RIPPA, UM, REPORTING REQUIREMENT.
AND THOSE ARE CAPTURED INTO THAT ANALYSIS AND, AND CONTRIBUTED.
AND IS THAT EVER GO, GO OUT OF, OUT OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT LIKE THAT, THAT LIKE ALL OF OUR RIPPA DATA IS, UH, REPORTED TO THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AND PROVIDED TO DOJ? IT'S AVAILABLE ONLINE, UM, THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE'S WEBSITE.
WE WERE AN EARLY ADOPTER IN THE FIRST WAVE OR SECOND WAVE OF REPORTING IN I THINK, 2021.
IT'S, THERE'S, UH, SOME DATA ON OUR WEBSITE THAT CAN DIRECT YOU TO THAT LINK AVAILABLE, UM, ON OUR, OUR TRANSPARENCY PAGE.
IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THAT, SO, OKAY.
BUT ALL, ALL OF OUR OPERATIONS ARE ON THERE.
ALL OF OUR INCIDENTS ARE, ARE, UM, ARE RECORDED AND CAPTURED AND MEMORIALIZED.
SO ALL OF OUR ACTIVITY, WHETHER SELF-INITIATED OR COMMUNITY INITIATED IS ALL, ALL CAPTURED.
SO, UM, WHETHER OPERATION BASED OR, OR, UH, SELF-INITIATED.
CAN I ADD, UH, YOU ASKED ABOUT E-BIKES AND WHEN WE DID THE, UM, E-BIKE, THEY'RE NOT CHECKPOINTS, BUT BECAUSE THEY'RE JUVENILES, WE DON'T, WE, WE CAN'T SAY ANY INFORMATION ABOUT THEM OR NOT.
YEAH, I, I, UM, I THINK WE CAN ANSWER THIS QUESTION AND THEN I MAYBE WANNA REFOCUS THIS BACK ON, ON THE AGENDA.
'CAUSE I THINK WE'RE DRIFTING A LITTLE BIT, BUT YEAH.
UH, SO THERE IS CONFIDENTIALITY ABOUT IF A A, A JUVENILE WAS, UH, CONTACTED OR THAT INFORMATION.
SO THAT WASN'T ALL MY THE POINT.
THE POINT WAS TO SEEK PATTERNS AND TRENDS.
YOU SAID IT'S ALL, SO I THOUGHT MAYBE IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
UH, SO, UH, UNLIKE THIS, AND, AND SPECIFIC TO THE IPA'S SCOPE, THEIR SCOPE AS JEFF, UH, MENTIONED, IS LIMITED TO MORE PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS, INFORMATION AND DATA USE OF FORCE COMPLAINTS, UM, SHOW OF FORCE, UM, VEHICLE PURSUITS, ET CETERA.
BUT WE DO HAVE A COMMUNITY CRIME MAP INFORMATION THAT WOULD SHOW POLICE ACTIVITY THAT'S, UH, ON THE DIRECTORY, KIND OF THE RIGHT HAND KIND OF TABS ON OUR WEBSITE.
SO IT POPULATES WITH, UM, INFORMATION, IT'S AGGREGATE INFORMATION.
SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR LIKE, WHY WERE THE POLICE AT MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE, IT WON'T SHOW YOU ON THE PIN MAP OF WHERE EXACTLY WHAT HOUSE IT WAS TO SHOW THAT CONFIDENTIALITY AND PRIVACY FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS.
BUT IT'LL SHOW NEAREST CROSS STREETS AND WHAT TYPE OF CALLS FOR SERVICE THAT ARE GENERALLY IN THOSE AREAS.
UM, AND SO, UM, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT CLEARLY ARE FILTERED OUT FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS, BUT GENERALLY YOU'LL GET A FLAVOR OF WHAT KIND OF CRIME AND ACTIVITY ARE GOING ON.
AND, AND, UH, I THINK THAT'S MAYBE MORE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT I THINK YOU'RE KIND OF, UM, ASKING AND INQUIRING ABOUT.
AND WITH, WITH JUVENILES, RIGHT? LIKE THEY WOULDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE AN ID IN A DATABASE THAT WOULD GET TRACKED WITH EVERYTHING ELSE.
LIKE, DO YOU GUYS JUST MANUALLY ENTER, THIS IS THE JUVENILE'S NAME AND INFORMATION THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO GATHER SINCE THEY WOULDN'T HAVE A, NECESSARILY ALWAYS HAVE AN ID CARD.
SO IF WE HAVE AN ARREST OF A JUVENILE OFFENDER, THEY WOULD, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD BE, OR EVEN JUST A TRAFFIC STOP, LET'S SAY IT'S A, WE'LL TREAT AN E-BIKE INFRINGEMENT LIKE A TRAFFIC STOP.
AND SO YOU HAD TO PULL OVER A JUVENILE 'CAUSE THEY WERE DOING SOMETHING ON THE E-BIKE THAT THEY WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.
YEAH, THERE'S, THERE'S RETENTION OF ANY RECORDS WITH THE, UH, SPECIFIC TIMEFRAME.
JUVENILE OFFENDERS CLEARLY HAVE A, A LESS, UM, REQUIREMENTS TO KEEP ANY OF THAT INFORMATION.
WE ALSO, UH, A LOT OF SENSITIVITY THERE.
WE HAVE A DIVERSIONARY PROGRAM, SO WE'RE LESS INCLINED ON THE FRONT END TO REALLY WANT TO TAKE PUNITIVE ACTION FOR OUR, OUR YOUTH OFFENDERS REGARDLESS.
BUT IF THERE IS A JUVENILE, UM, CITATION FOR JUVENILE TRAFFIC COURT, WE CLEARLY HAVE TO RETAIN THAT RECORD.
SAME WITH JUVENILE, JUVENILE COURT, IF THERE'S ONE OF THOSE RECORDS.
BUT OTHERWISE, UM, WE, WE KEEP THE MINIMAL INFORMATION THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO STATUTORILY AND THEN OTHER THINGS, UM, IT'S REALLY, REALLY NOT RELEVANT.
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH.I'LL TRY AND GET US BACK ON TARGET NOW.
UM, IF MAYBE FOR NEXT MONTH'S MEETING, IF WE COULD GET THOSE TWO AUGUST FOR MARCH, UM, ADDED TO THE LIST, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
[PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION]
IS THE, UM, PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR MATTERS IN CONSIDERATION.I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE OUR PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS, LIEUTENANT GARRETT GIANNO AND COMMAND STAFF TO PRESENT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ANNUAL MILITARY EQUIPMENT USE REPORT AB 4 81 FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026, UH, COMMITTEE MEMBERS COMMITTEE CHAIR.
THIS EVENING'S PRESENTATION IS MEANT TO BE AN OVERVIEW OF ASSEMBLY BILL 4 81, A TRANSMITTAL OF THE DRAFT FISCAL YEAR 26 MILITARY EQUIPMENT USE REPORT.
AND BEING THAT THIS IS THE THIRD TIME THIS REPORT HAS BEEN PRESENTED, THIS BODY WILL KEEP IT BRIEF, BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UH, YOU MIGHT HAVE, UH, WE'RE GONNA CONCLUDE THE PRESENTATION BY SPEAKING ABOUT THE DEPARTMENT'S DRONE PROGRAM.
UM, THIS PAST YEAR IS DRONE USAGE AND THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE DEPARTMENT'S DRONE PROGRAM.
IN SEPTEMBER OF 2021, THE CALIFORNIA LEGISLATURE PASSED AB 41.
THE BILL'S AUTHOR NOTED A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY'S ABILITY TO ACQUIRE EQUIPMENT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WITHOUT AUTHORIZATION FROM ITS GOVERNING BODY.
THE BILL WAS AN EFFORT TO INCREASE TRANSPARENCY, ACCOUNTABILITY, AND OVERSIGHT ON THE ACQUISITION AND USE OF MILITARY EQUIPMENT.
THE BILL ALSO SOUGHT TO PROVIDE SAFEGUARDS TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC'S WELFARE, SAFETY, CIVIL RIGHTS, AND LIBERTY DUE TO THE MISUSE OF THE EQUIPMENT.
AMONG THE BILL'S REQUIREMENTS WAS A PUBLICLY AVAILABLE ANNUAL REPORT TO THE GOVERNING BODY, WHICH IS TO INCLUDE HOW THE EQUIPMENT WAS USED, THE USE, MAINTENANCE, STORAGE AND TRAINING COST INFORMATION ABOUT POLICY VIOLATIONS RELATED TO THE EQUIPMENT AND THE INTENTION TO ACQUIRE ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT IN THE COMING YEAR.
PLEASE NOTE THAT WHAT IS BEING PRESENTED IS A DRAFT REPORT, AND THE FINAL REPORT WILL REFLECT DATA FOR THE ENTIRE FISCAL YEAR AND MAY INCORPORATE FEEDBACK FROM THIS BODY.
THE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN COMMITTED TO DISPLAYING HOSTING COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND PROVIDING INFORMATION, UH, REGARDING THE USE OF ITS EQUIPMENT.
IN ADDITION TO TONIGHT'S PRESENT PRESENTATION, WE'LL BE HOLDING A COMMUNITY MEETING IN THE FORM OF A MILITARY EQUIPMENT DISPLAY DAY IN FRONT LOT OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ON WEDNESDAY, JULY 15TH, FROM 5:00 PM TO 6:30 PM AND WE'D LOVE TO HAVE, UH, EACH OF YOU THERE.
UH, AND THE FINAL REPORT WILL BE PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL ON AUGUST 3RD.
THE DEPARTMENT HAS ESTABLISHED A WEBPAGE LOCATED ON THE DEPARTMENT'S WEBSITE IN THE TRANSPARENCY PORTAL SECTION TITLED SPECIALIZED EQUIPMENT.
THE PAGE DISCUSSES AB 41 IN THE QUALIFYING EQUIPMENT CONTAINS HISTORICAL DOCUMENTS RELATED TO THE PROCEEDINGS.
SINCE THE ADOPTION OF AB 41 AND THE ANNUAL REPORT, THE DEPARTMENT HAS CREATED AN EMAIL FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO WISH TO PROVIDE COMMENTS, CONCERNS, AND COMPLAINTS REGARDING THE DEPARTMENT'S USE OF MILITARY EQUIPMENT.
AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS CAN ALSO CONTACT THE OFFICE OF THE INDEPENDENT POLICE AUDITOR WITH THEIR CONCERNS.
WHILE THE DEPARTMENT IS NOT OFTEN CALLED UPON TO USE MUCH OF THIS EQUIPMENT, OUR DUTY AS A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY IS TO ENSURE OUR OFFICERS ARE PROPERLY TRAINED AND EQUIPPED TO DEAL WITH THE DANGERS THEY AND OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS MAY FACE.
AND OUR COMMUNITIES COUNTRIES TRAGIC HISTORY WITH CRITICAL INCIDENTS PROVIDES A WINDOW INTO THE POTENTIAL COMPLEX TACTICAL PROBLEMS OFFICERS MAY ONE DAY BE CONFRONTED WITH.
SO WHILE WE RECOGNIZE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO ONLY USE THIS EQUIPMENT WHEN NECESSARY, WE BELIEVE THE EQUIPMENT IS, EQUIPMENT WE POSSESS IN RELATED TRAINING IS AN ESSENTIAL PART OF OUR PREPAREDNESS.
FOR CONTEXT, MUCH OF THIS EQUIPMENT IS FOR THE SOLE USE OF OUR DEPARTMENT, SWAT TEAM MEMBERS.
THE SWAT TEAM IS ONE COMPONENT COMPONENT OF OUR CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM, WHICH ALSO INCORPORATES A TEAM OF OFFICERS TRAINING CRISIS NEGOTIATIONS AND TACTICAL DISPATCHERS.
THE CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED TO PROVIDE SPECIALIZED SUPPORT IN HANDLING OF CRITICAL FIELD OPERATIONS, WHERE INTENSE NEGOTIATIONS AND SPECIALIZED DEPLOYMENT METHODS BEYOND THE CAPACITY OF PATROL OFFICERS APPEAR NECESSARY.
THE PRIMARY FOCUS OF THE CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM IS TO PROVIDE TACTICAL SOLUTIONS THAT INCREASE THE LIKELIHOOD OF DEESCALATION IN THE SAFE RESOLUTION OF HIGH RISK INCIDENTS.
OUR CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM IS A PART-TIME TEAM, AND OFFICERS ARE ASSIGNED TO THESE TEAMS AS A COLLATERAL ASSIGNMENT.
MORE INFORMATION REGARDING A CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM CAN BE FOUND IN THE DEPARTMENT'S PO IN DEPARTMENT POLICY 4 0 8.
AND AS A REMINDER, ALL OF OUR POLICIES CAN BE FOUND ON OUR DEPARTMENT WEBSITE AND THE TRANSPARENCY PORTAL TAB.
WITH THE MAJORITY OF WHAT THE LEGISLATURE HAS DEEMED MILITARY EQUIPMENT
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ONLY ACCESSIBLE TO SPECIALLY TRAINED OFFICERS, IT'S IMPORTANT TO HIGHLIGHT WHAT EQUIPMENT IS AVAILABLE TO ALL OUR OFFICERS.EVERY PATROL CAR IS OUTFITTED WITH A LESS LETHAL SHOTGUN, WHICH IS USED TO SHOOT 12 GAUGE DRAG STABILIZED BEANBAG ROUNDS.
THE SHOTGUNS ARE EASILY IDENTIFIABLE WITH THE ORANGE STOCKS AND FOUR STOCKS.
THE DEPARTMENT HAS EIGHT SINGLE SHOT 40 MILLIMETER LAUNCHERS, WHICH ARE DESIGNED TO SHOOT A VARIETY OF MUNITIONS.
BUT THE ONLY MUNITION THAT IS AVAILABLE TO OUR PATROL OFFICERS IS THE 40 MILLIMETER EXACT IMPACT SPONGE ROUNDS, WHICH YOU CAN SEE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SLIDE THERE.
PURSUANT TO POLICY CIRCUMSTANCES THAT ARE APPROPRIATE FOR THE DEPLOYMENT OF THESE LESS LETHAL WEAPONS INCLUDE WHEN A SUSPECT IS ARMED WITH A WEAPON, AND TACTICAL CIRCUMSTANCES ALLOW FOR THE SAFE APPLICATION OF THE MUNITIONS, WHERE THE SUSPECT HAS MADE CREDIBLE THREAT THREATS TO HARM OTHERS WHEN THE SUSPECT IS ENGAGED IN RIOTOUS BEHAVIOR OR THROWING ROCKS, BOTTLES, OR OTHER DANGEROUS PROJECTILES AT PEOPLE AND OR OFFICERS.
OR, THERE'S PROBABLE CAUSE TO BELIEVE THAT THE SUSPECT HAS ALREADY COMMITTED A CRIME OF VIOLENCE AND IS REFUSING TO COMPLY WITH LAWFUL ORDERS.
USE OF THESE TYPES OF WEAPON WEAPONS IN CERTAIN SITUATIONS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CALIFORNIA LEGISLATURE'S DIRECTION IN TEACHING OFFICERS DEESCALATION PRINCIPLES, AS THEY CALL OUT THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING ALTERNATIVES TO USE TO THE USE OF DEADLY FORCE.
SO WHERE REASONABLY FEASIBLE, THEY ARE PART OF THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS LEADING UP TO THE CONSIDERATION OF DEADLY FORCE.
THESE WEAPONS AMMUNITIONS WERE NOT SHOT AT ANY SUSPECTS, AND WERE POINTED AT SUSPECTS ONLY NINE TIMES DURING THIS REPORTING PERIOD.
THERE WERE NO POLICY VIOLATIONS FOUND WITH THE DEPLOYMENT OR USE OF THE EQUIPMENT.
THERE WERE NO COMPLAINTS RELATED TO THE USE OF THE EQUIPMENT, AND OTHER THAN THE REPLENISHMENT OF CONSUMABLE EQUIPMENT, THE DEPARTMENT IS NOT SEEKING TO PURCHASE NEW EQUIPMENT IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
SO BEFORE WE MOVE INTO A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE DEPARTMENT'S DROVE PROGRAM, I WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR QUESTIONS, UH, RELATED TO THE MATERIAL I ALREADY PRESENTED OR THE REPORT IN GENERAL.
THE DEPARTMENT'S DRONE TEAM IS CURRENTLY, CURRENTLY CONSISTS OF FOUR OFFICERS AND A SERGEANT.
THESE FIVE TRAINED DRONE PILOTS ARE CURRENTLY ASSIGNED TO THE FIELD SERVICES DIVISION AND HAVE ACCESS TO BOTH THE UNMANNED AERIAL SYSTEMS AND UNMANNED GROUND VEHICLES OR DRONES IN ROBOT OBA.
THE DEPARTMENT'S, UH, THE DRONE TEAM'S TRAINING CONSISTS OF OBTAINING A FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION, PART 1 0 7, REMOTE PILOT CERTIFICATE, UNDERSTANDING LEGAL LIMITATIONS REGARDED TO PRI REGARD RELATED TO PRIVACY AND DEMONSTRATING PROFICIENCY IN THE USE OF THE UAS EQUIPMENT.
THE DEPARTMENT CURRENTLY OWNS EIGHT DRONES, AS YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN THERE, UH, THE TWO MODELS ON THE LEFT ARE COMMERCIALLY AVAILABLE DRONES.
UH, THE DRONE ON THE RIGHT IS A, A PURPOSE-BUILT TACTICAL INDOOR DRONE AND IS NOT COMMERCIALLY AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.
THESE ARE RELATIVELY SMALL DRONES ALL WEIGHING LESS THAN FIVE POUNDS.
UH, THE DJI MAVIC THREE T, UH, WHICH IS THE DRONE ON THE LEFT IS THE MO IS THE DRONE THAT IS MOST OFTEN USED BY OUR OFFICERS DUE TO ITS GREATER ABILITY TO FLY AT NIGHT AND ITS THERMAL IMAGING CAPABILITIES.
ALL OF THESE DRONES ARE ONLY CAPABLE FOR FLYING FOR AN AVERAGE OF, UH, 30 MINUTES OR LESS DUE TO BATTERY CAPACITY.
THE DRONES ARE CAPABLE OF RECORDING VIDEO ONLY AFTER THE PILOT MANUALLY ACTIVATES THE CAMERA.
UH, THE FOOTAGE IS THEN SAVED IF IT'S EVIDENCE IS SAVED ON AN MSD CARD OR MICROSCAN DISC, WHICH IS LATER MANUALLY UPLOADED IN EVIDENCE.COM.
UH, THE SAME AXON SYSTEM WHERE OUR BODY-WORN CAMERA VIDEO IS STORED AND THE FOOTAGE IS RETAINED CONSISTENT WITH OUR ESTABLISHED, UH, RECORDS RETENTION SCHEDULE.
THE DRONES DO NOT POSSESS AUTOMATED LICENSE PLATE READING OR FACIAL RECOGNITION TECHNOLOGY, AND NONE OF OUR DRONES ARE WEAPONIZED.
THE UNMANNED AERIAL SYSTEM AND UNMANNED GROUND VEHICLE OPERATIONS POLICY GOVERNS THE DEPARTMENT'S DRONE PROGRAM.
THE POLICY, WHICH WAS INCLUDED IN THE STAFF REPORT HIGHLIGHTS PRIVACY AND FOURTH AMENDMENT CONSIDERATIONS, AS WELL AS PROHIBITED USES, WHICH INCLUDE CONDUCTING RANDOM SURVEILLANCE TARGETING PERSONS BASE BASED ON PROTECTED CHARACTERISTICS OR TO HARASS, INTIMIDATE, OR DISCRIMINATE AGAINST AN INDIVIDUAL GROUP.
THE POLICY ALSO OUTLINES CIRCUMSTANCES IN WHICH THE DRONE MAY BE UTILIZED.
IN TOTAL, THERE ARE 13 CIRCUMSTANCES IDENTIFIED IN THE POLICY WHERE A DRONE CAN BE USED, SOME VERY SPECIFIC, SUCH AS SEARCHING FOR LOSS FOR MISSING PERSONS AT RISKS, AND SOME ARE GENERAL CIRCUMSTANCES SUCH AS SEARCHING FOR AN OUTSTANDING CRIMINAL SUSPECT DURING
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AN ACTIVE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION.DURING FISCAL YEAR 26, THE DEPARTMENT DEPLOYED DRONES 41 TIMES.
THE MOST COMMON USAGE WAS TO MAINTAIN A VISUAL PERIMETER AND ENHANCE SITUATIONAL AWARENESS DURING ACTIVE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS WHERE OFFICERS WERE APPROACHING A SCENE WITH A KNOWN SUSPECT OR ATTEMPTING TO LOCATE SUSPECTS WHO HAD FLED FROM OFFICERS.
WITH A FEW EXCEPTIONS, ALL OF THESE SITUATIONS OF WHICH A DRONE WAS DEPLOYED, OFFICERS MAY HAVE TRADITIONALLY REQUESTED THE ASSISTANCE OF THE SHERIFF'S HELICOPTER.
ALTHOUGH WE ARE STILL FREQUENTLY AIDED BY THE SHERIFF'S HELICOPTER, THE DEPLOYMENT OF THE DRONES IS OFTEN MORE TIME, MORE TIMELY AND LESS IMPACTFUL FOR THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS.
AS OUR USE OF THE DRONES HAS DOUBLED FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR, WE BELIEVE WE WILL CONTINUE TO SEE AN INCREASED NUMBER OF DEPLOYMENTS DUE TO, TO THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE ARE GREATER PERMISSIBLE USES, UH, WITHIN OUR CURRENT CONFINES OF OUR CURRENT POLICY.
AS OUR OFFICERS FAMILIARIZE THEMSELVES WITH THE CAPABILITIES OF OUR CURRENT TECHNOLOGY, AND TECHNOLOGY CONTINUES TO EVOLVE, THE USE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT DRONES IN OUR CITY AND THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY IS EXPANDING.
THE LAW ENFORCEMENT PROFESSION IS LEARNING THAT TECHNOLOGY CAN BE LEVERAGED FOR OFFICER AND COMMUNITY SAFETY AND EFFICIENCY.
EXPANDED USE IN SOME JURISDICTIONS THAT WE BELIEVE WOULD BENEFIT OUR COMMUNITY INCLUDES CRIME SPECIFIC USES, SUCH AS FOR FIREWORKS ENFORCEMENT, AS SEEN IN THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT, WHICH IS FROM THE RIVERSIDE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AS YOU KNOW, IN 2020, THE CITY OF PETALUMA BANNED THE USE OF ALL FIREWORKS WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS, UH, DUE TO CONCERNS OVER FIRE INJURIES AND PROPERTY DAMAGE.
AND SINCE THE BAN, WE HAVE SEEN A DECLINE IN CALLS FOR SERVICE RELATED TO FIREWORKS.
HOWEVER, THE ISSUE IS STILL PERSIST AND HISTORICALLY ENFORCEMENT HAS BEEN DIFFICULT.
UTILIZING A DRONE FOR FIREWORKS ENFORCEMENT WILL ALLOW FOR QUICKER RESPONSE TIMES, ENHANCE ABILITY TO LOCATE THE SOURCE OF THE FIREWORKS, AND W WOULD AFFORD THE OFFICER THE ABILITY TO RECORD EVIDENCE OF THE CRIME.
ANOTHER AREA THE DEPARTMENT'S IDENTIFIED AS A POTENTIAL USE WITHIN OUR CURRENT POLICY WOULD BE THE USE OF DRONES TO COMBAT DANGEROUS DRIVING BEHAVIOR.
EXAMPLES INCLUDE LOCATIONS SUCH AS THE INTERSECTION OF EAST WASHINGTON AND MCDOWELL, AND SITUATIONS SUCH AS RIGHT-OF-WAY VIOLATIONS AT CROSSWALKS OR SIDESHOW ACTIVITY WHERE TRADITIONAL TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT IS DIFFICULT, UH, FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS, BUT DUE TO TRAFFIC VOLUME AND VEHICLE SPEEDS, THERE ARE ALSO EVOLVING TRENDS, UM, SOME OF WHICH WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN THIS BODY SUCH AS EBO, O AND E-BIKE RIDING, FOR WHICH THE DEPARTMENT HAS RECEIVED NUMEROUS COMPLAINTS FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS TAKING SEVERAL REPORTS FOR COLLISIONS, AND SEE SEEING RIDERS FLEE UPON SEEING THE LIGHTS OF A PATROL CAR.
IN ALL THESE SITUATIONS, WE MAY BE ABLE TO HAVE A GREATER IMPACT ON TRAFFIC SAFETY WITH THE USE OF DRONES.
WE RECOGNIZE ALL ADVANCEMENTS IN LAW ENFORCEMENT TECHNOLOGY PROMPTED DISCUSSION REGARDING THE BALANCE BETWEEN PUBLIC SAFETY AND INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY, AND WE'D LIKE TO HEAR YOUR QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS RELATED TO THE POTENTIAL EXPANDED USE OF DRONE TECHNOLOGY.
SO WITH THAT, I APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENTION AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
UH, I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO THE COMMITTEE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
WHAT IS THE LEGAL THRESHOLD FOR DEPLOYING A DRONE DURING A DEMONSTRATION? SO, UM, IN OUR EXPERIENCE WHEN YOU HAVE, UH, AN UNPERMITTED EVENT, UH, THAT ENTERS A ROADWAY AND THERE'S A PUBLIC SAFETY DANGER, UM, BECAUSE IF YOU COMPARE A PERMITTED EVENT SUCH AS BUTTER AND EGGS DAY, WHERE WE BLOCK OFF ALL THE STREETS, WE WARN DRIVERS NOT TO PARK THEIR CARS ON THE STREET.
UM, WHAT WE'RE ESSENTIALLY DOING IS REDUCING THE CONFLICT MAYBE BETWEEN VEHICLE AND PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC.
UH, WHEN YOU HAVE AN UNPERMITTED EVENT, UM, WE, WE WOULD LIKELY, WE ARE LIKELY TO SEE THOSE TYPES OF CONFLICT.
UM, ALSO WITH PERMITTED EVENTS, WE, WE ENSURE WE HAVE APPROPRIATE STAFFING TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF THOSE PARTICIPATING IN THE EVENT WITH AN UNPERMITTED EVENT, WE DON'T HAVE, UM, UM, THE NECESSARY STAFFING NECESSARILY TO KEEP THE, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE ROADWAY SAFE.
UM, SO THE DRONE AIDS IN ALLOWING US TO MOVE WHAT LIMITED RESOURCES HAVE TO POINTS OF TRAFFIC CONTROL, UM, OR RESPOND TO IF WE GET A CALL FOR SERVICE IN REGARDS TO SOMETHING LIKE A, UH, A PHYSICAL FIGHT OR A CONFRONTATION, WE COULD PUT A DRONE UP TO, TO MITIGATE THAT, UM, BECAUSE WE'RE LIKELY NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO GET AN OFFICER THERE QUICKLY ENOUGH, UM, DUE TO THE TRAFFIC AND PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC IN TIME.
SO THE, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT WHAT, WHERE THE THRESHOLD IS, UM, IT'S WHEN ESSENTIALLY THE LAW'S BEING BROKEN, CAN I DO YOU A FOLLOW UP ON THAT? SO I'M
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ASSUMING THAT THE TWO TIMES THAT YOU USED IT WERE FOR THE, UM, NO KINGS DAY.UM, SO, UH, YOU KNOW, BY THE WAY, FROM THE FIRST TIME TO THE SECOND AND THIRD, OH MY GOD, YOU GUYS DID A GREAT JOB AND REALLY WAS FABULOUS.
UM, BUT I, UM, JUST AM CURIOUS, SO ANY FOOTAGE THAT YOU TAKE FROM THAT, THAT GOES, THAT, THAT, THAT FOOTAGE IS THE SAME THING.
IT ONLY GETS KEPT FOR THAT SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME AND, UH, THERE'S NO PRI YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO POTENTIAL PRIVACY VIOLATIONS, ALL KINDS OF THINGS LIKE THAT.
IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST FOR THE ACTUAL EVENT TIME, CORRECT.
SO THE, THE TWO TIMES THAT WE DID USE IT, UH, NO CRIMES WERE COMMITTED, UM, SO THAT THAT FOOTAGE WAS NOT NECESSARILY SAVED.
YEAH, I THINK THE OTHER THING WE'RE SEEING IS THERE WAS OTHER INDEPENDENT DRONES BEING OPERATED DURING MANY OF THOSE EVENTS.
SO THERE'S ALSO, UM, A RESPONSIBILITY IN MANY OF THESE EVENTS THAT WE'RE MONITORING THOSE EVENTS WITH OTHER, YOU KNOW, OUR OWN DRONES TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NOT OTHER THINGS GOING ON.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN MIKE AT THE WORLD CUP EVENT RIGHT NOW, THAT, UM, LAW ENFORCEMENT SEIZED, I THINK OVER 40, UM, UNAUTHORIZED AND UNPERMITTED EVENTS.
AND SO I THINK WE HAVE A DUTY AND A RESPONSIBILITY TO NOT ONLY MAINTAIN, UH, THE SAFETY OF PERMITTED EVENTS, BUT THE SAFETY OF UNPERMITTED EVENTS AND FREE SPEECH ASSEMBLIES.
SO, UM, AS YOU MENTIONED IN THAT EVENT, WE HAD A NUMBER OF CALLS, UM, UH, DURING THE LAST, UH, TWO NO KINGS EVENTS FROM, UH, COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND DEMONSTRATORS AND, UH, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE IN TRAFFIC ABOUT, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T GET THROUGH, YOU KNOW, I, UH, THERE WAS A REPORT OF A, AN ALTERCATION OR A FIGHT AT, AT IN FRONT OF A BUSINESS.
AND SO, UM, AS, AS THE LIEUTENANT MENTIONED, IT WAS DIFFICULT FOR US TO GET OVER TO THOSE AREAS.
ALSO, IT'S A WAY FOR US TO ALMOST IMMEDIATELY VERIFY INDEPENDENTLY IF THERE'S VALIDITY TO THAT REPORT, IF THERE'S A NEED FOR US TO RESPOND.
AND, UM, AND OFTENTIMES WHAT WE FOUND IS THERE WASN'T NECESSARILY A NEED FOR US TO RESPOND AND ALLOWED US TO MAINTAIN, UH, JUST KIND OF MORE OF AN OBSERVATIONAL ROLE AND MAINTAIN OUR TRAFFIC CONTROL POINTS AT, AT A DISTANCE AND ALLOW THE EVENT TO KIND OF SELF, SELF NAVIGATE THROUGH, UM, THROUGH THE DOWNTOWN CORRIDOR.
SO WE, WE, UH, FOUND IT TO BE, UM, IMMENSELY BENEFICIAL, UM, THROUGH THAT, THAT, THAT LAST, UH, DEMONSTRATION AS A FOLLOW UP TO SOMETHING THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED, WHICH WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD, IS THERE A WAY TO DISTINGUISH A POLICE DRONE FROM ANOTHER PRIVATE CITIZEN DRONE? LIKE I'M ASSUMING IS THERE, IS THERE MARKING OR SOMETHING WHERE YOU COULD SAY, OH, THAT'S A, THAT'S A POLICE DRONE VERSUS THAT'S, YOU KNOW, MY NEIGHBOR'S KID FLYING A DRONE OVER MY HOUSE? GENERALLY, NO.
SO LIKE THE, IN THE SLIDE WE HAVE WHERE THEY HAVE THE DRONES UP, THE TWO THAT WERE ON THE LEFT, YOU COULD GO DOWN TO THE STORE AND PURCHASE THOSE AT THE, AT THIS MOMENT.
AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A DISTANCE.
WE'RE TYPICALLY FINDING THOSE AT 400 FEET.
SO FROM THAT DISTANCE, YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO TELL.
AND, AND FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT, AND THIS MAY BE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A BETTER QUESTION FOR JORDAN, OR MAYBE NO ONE HERE CAN REALLY ANSWER IT, BUT FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT, IF THERE IS A DRONE AND IT, THEY'RE FLYING OVER MY PRIVATE PROPERTY, RIGHT? THEY'RE FLYING OVER MY PROPERTY LINE, AND SINCE I CAN'T TELL IF IT'S A POLICE DRONE OR, OR ANOTHER DRONE, LIKE IF I WANTED TO TAKE ACTION AGAINST THAT DRONE JAMMING TECHNOLOGY, TRY AND SHOOT IT OUT OF THE SKY, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
LIKE, ARE, AM I ALLOWED TO DO THAT? OR IS THAT ILLEGAL? THAT THAT WOULD BE HIGHLY ILLEGAL, UM, TO TAKE, TAKE THOSE TYPES OF A ACTIONS? UM, WHAT YOU WOULD WANT TO DO IS YOU WANT TO GET THE DATE AND TIME IN WHICH THAT DRONE WAS FLYING OVER YOUR RESIDENCE, AND EACH DRONE HAS, UM, AN IDENTIFIER, UH, THAT CAN BE ACCESSED AFTER THE FACT.
UM, AND THEN, UH, WITH A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, WE WON'T NECESSARILY BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY WHO THE DRONE OPERATOR IS BASED OFF OF THE, THE RADIO FREQUENCY OF THAT DEVICE.
BUT, UM, YOU COULD HELP BUILD CASES FOR FUTURE EVENTS.
UM, WE, YOU KNOW, OUR DRONES HAVE TO HAVE ALL OF THE LICENSING REQUIREMENTS, WHICH IS REGISTERED WITH THE FAA, UM, THEY ARE GOVERNED, IT IS AIRSPACE, UM, BUT SHOOTING IT OUT OF THE SKY OR, OR USING A JAMER WOULD HAVE AN IMPACT ON OTHER DEVICES, UH, AND OR OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND HIGHLY DISCOURAGED.
SO THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TAKE A PICTURE OF THE DRONE AND THEN GET THAT TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND LET THEM FOLLOW UP TO SEE IF IT WAS ONE OF THEIR DRONES, OR IF POSSIBLE ANOTHER DRONE.
YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD REPORT IT AS A, A, BASICALLY A AERIAL DEVICE IMPACTING YOUR PRIVACY MM-HMM
AND SEEKING GUIDANCE FROM AN OFFICER.
YOU MENTIONED THE MSD CARD THAT'S ON THE DRONE.
CAN YOU TALK ABOUT LIKE, WHAT'S THE CHAIN OF CUSTODY ON THAT, UM, MEMORY DEVICE? LIKE, I KNOW WITH THE BODY WORN CAMERAS, IT'S LIKE THE OFFICER, THERE'S NO OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO ALTER THE FOOTAGE OR ACCESS
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THE MEMORY.IT'S SOMETHING THAT AS SOON AS THEY PLUG IT IN BACK AT THE STATION, IT'S AUTOMATICALLY DOWNLOADED AND SAVED IN SORT OF A, A, A TAMPER PROOF SYSTEM.
IS THERE SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR THE DRONE, OR IS THE SORT OF THE MEMORY CARD ACCESSIBLE BY THE OFFICER AND, AND DOESN'T REALLY HAVE A CHAIN OF CUSTODY BETWEEN WHEN THE FOOTAGE WAS TAKEN AND WHEN IT GETS UPLOADED TO THE SYSTEM? WELL, I THINK THAT THE, THE CHAIN OF CUSTODY, UM, WOULD RELY UPON AN OFFICER'S TESTIMONY REPORT THAT HE IN FACT, TOOK THE MSD CARD FROM THE DRONE AND PLUGGED IT IN A DEPARTMENT COMPUTER AND DOWNLOADED THE DATA.
UM, I WOULD EQUATE IT TO, UM, WHEN WE ALL STARTED, WE USED POCKET RECORDERS.
UM, SO IT WAS A, INSTEAD OF A BODY WORN CAMERA, I HAD A RECORDER IN MY POCKET AND I WOULD TAKE THE AUDIO EVIDENCE AND DOWNLOAD THE COMPUTER.
UM, SO IT'S NOT LIKE THE AXON TECHNOLOGY WHERE YOU JUST DOCK, DOCK IT ON A THING AND IT AUTOMATICALLY DUMPS INTO THE, THE, UH, EVIDENCE.COM.
UH, BUT THERE THE CHAIN OF CUSTODY IS RELI UPON THE OFFICER.
AND WOULD THERE BE A WAY TO TELL IF THE FOOTAGE HAD BEEN TAMPERED WITH OR IF THE DI AT THE MEMORY DISC COULD BE TAKEN OUT OF THE DRONE BEFORE BRINGING IT BACK TO THE STATION? UH, I'M SURE IF THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS EVIDENTIAL THAT WAS IN QUESTION THAT A DEFENSE COUNSEL COULD REQUEST A FORENSICS EXAM ON, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT EVIDENCE AND SEE IF IT WAS ALTERED.
UM, WITH REGARDS TO TECHNOLOGY, UM, OUR CURRENT DRONES DO NOT, UH, HAVE THE CAPABILITIES BECAUSE THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, COMMERCIALLY PURCHASED, UM, KIND OF ON THE LOWER SPECTRUM IN CERTAIN, IN TERMS OF TECHNOLOGY.
AS YOU LOOK AT DRONE AS A FIRST RESPONDER MODELS, THOSE DO HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF A DIRECT TO UPLOAD INTO YOUR EVIDENCE STORAGE SYSTEM, WHICH MINIMIZE THOSE TOUCH POINTS.
UM, THE CITY OF PETALUMA WE'RE NOT, WE DON'T HAVE THOSE CAPABILITIES, UM, BUT THEY, THEY, THERE IS, YOU KNOW, TO YOUR POINT, THOSE CONSIDERATIONS ARE THERE.
UM, AND THE FUTURE DRONES, UM, WILL LIKELY HAVE BETTER MECHANISMS IN, IN PLACE TO PRESERVE THE EVIDENCE.
UM, ABOUT THE DRONES, THE, UM, LOCAL REAL ESTATE AGENTS USE DRONES TO CAPTURE NEIGHBORHOODS, AND I HAVE SEEN NEIGHBORS BACKYARDS MORE THAN I WANT TO, AND THEY'RE AT THE HOUSE NOT EVEN FOR SALE.
SO SHE WANNA THROW THAT OUT THERE.
AND THEN I WAS AT THE FAIR MANY DAYS BEFORE, LIKE A COUPLE OF HOURS BEFORE IT ACTUALLY BEGAN, AND THERE WAS PRIVATE DRONE OPERATORS.
THEY WERE PART OF THE VENDORS, AND OF COURSE I HAD TO GO ASK WHO THEY WERE AND WHAT THEY WERE DOING, AND THEY WERE LIKE, OH, WE'RE JUST DOING MARKETING VIDEOS, BUT WE'RE TESTING THEM OUT NOW BEFORE THE CROWD GETS THERE.
SO THERE WERE PRIVATE VENDORS USING DRONES AT THE FAIR, AND I FOUND THAT VERY ODD.
BUT, UH, I WASN'T GONNA SAY ANYTHING.
UM, AND FOR THE PUBLIC, UM, THERE'S A JULY, IS THAT THE, UM, NATIONAL NIGHT OUT OR THE MIL MILITARY? NO, THE, UH, NATIONAL NIGHT NIGHT OUT IS IN AUGUST.
THAT'S ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW THE PUBLIC, THE MILITARY, UM, EQUIPMENT AND THE DRONES.
'CAUSE I KNOW THAT'S THE FIRST TIME I GOT TO SEE ONE OPERATING.
SO DO WE HAVE A DATE FOR THE, THE AUGUST IT, UH, IT'S AUGUST 4TH, WHICH IS THE DAY FOURTH FOLLOWING COUNSEL PRESENTATION ON THIS ITEM.
AND THEN WHAT'S THE ONE IN JULY? IS THAT AT THE, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT? YES, IT'S JULY 15TH AT FIVE O'CLOCK.
IT'LL BE IN THE FRONT LOT OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND YOU'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, BOTH THE ARMORED VEHICLES, UH, THE DRONES AND THE NUMBER OF THE HANDHELD EQUIPMENT WILL BE OUT ON DISPLAY.
AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC'S INVITED THE GENERAL PUBLIC IS, IS INVITED AND WELCOME.
I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION IS, UM, WHAT HAPPENS TO FOOTAGE THAT CAPTURES UNINVOLVED PEOPLE? SO, UH, JUST SIMILAR TO BODY-WORN CAMERA OR THAT IS APPLICABLE.
UM, IF, IF IT'S EV, IF IT'S EVIDENCE, IT'LL BE UPLOADED INTO THE EVIDENCE SYSTEM.
IF THAT FOOTAGE WERE EVER TO BE RELEASED, UM, THE FACES WOULD BE REDACTED.
WAS THERE ANOTHER PART OF THE, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE, WAS THERE ANOTHER PART OF THE PRESENTATION OR WAS THAT THE END OF IT? THAT WAS IT.
UH, I WANTED TO ASK ONE MORE QUESTION.
IT KIND OF CAME FROM THE, UM, UH, CAME FROM ONE OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED BEFOREHAND.
I KNOW THAT THERE WAS SOME I'D, I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU GUYS A CHANCE TO MAYBE RESPOND TO SOME RESEARCH THAT WAS BROUGHT UP THAT, UM, INDICATES THAT MILITARIZED EQUIPMENT AND TACTICS MAY NOT YIELD MEASURABLE SAFETY AND COULD POSSIBLY ERODE COMMUNITY TRUST.
IS THERE SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO SAY IN RESPONSE TO THAT, OR SORT OF HAVE YOU GUYS THOUGHT ABOUT THAT, THAT TENSION BETWEEN WANTING TO BE PREPARED
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AND, AND HAVE SORT OF THE, THE EQUIPMENT AND THE TRAINING NECESSARY TO, UH, PROTECT PUBLIC SAFETY AND THE EVENTUALITY OF, OF, OF MULTIPLE CIRCUMSTANCES VERSUS THE SORT OF, UM, COMMUNITY TRUST AND SORT OF WHAT MILITARIZED EQUIPMENT CAN DO WITH THAT TRUST? LIKE, I'M, I'M WONDERING IF YOU GUYS HAVE HAD THOSE DISCUSSIONS OR WOULD LIKE TO GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE TALK TO THIS COMMITTEE ABOUT WHAT YOU, WHERE YOU GUYS SEE THAT LINE AND, AND HOW YOU'RE ADDRESSING IT.YEAH, I THINK I'LL START, MAYBE THE CHIEF WANTS TO JUMP IN, BUT I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU SEE ABOUT LIKE MILITARY STYLE POLICING, I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT THAT MEANS.
AND WE HAVE EQUIPMENT THAT THE LEGISLATURE HAS DEEMED MILITARY EQUIPMENT.
UH, THE ONLY TWO PIECES OF EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE WERE, UH, THAT WERE RECEIVED FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WERE THE TWO M WRAPS.
UM, THERE'S A COMMERCIALLY AVAILABLE ALTERNATIVE, UM, THAT WE WOULD MORE THAN WELCOME HAVING.
WE DO SEE THAT IT IS A NECESSARY PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, AND IF YOU GO ONLINE, YOU CAN SEE, UH, THE COUNTLESS LIVES THAT WERE SAVED, UM, DUE TO HAVING THESE, THIS, THESE, WHAT ARE ESSENTIALLY BULLET STOPPERS.
UM, THERE'S NO OFFENSIVE CAPABILITIES OF THEM.
UM, WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THE MILITARY STYLE POLICING.
WE DON'T ROLL THIS, THESE, THIS EQUIPMENT OUT FOR JUST ANY PURPOSE.
UM, ALTHOUGH WE FEEL IT'S, THEY'RE NECESSARY FOR US TO BE PREPARED, UM, YOU'VE SEEN THAT WE'VE BEEN RESPONSIBLE IN HAVING THIS EQUIPMENT, UM, WHERE WE HAVEN'T HAD TO USE IT AND WE ONLY USE IT WHEN IT'S NECESSARY, BUT THERE MAY COME A TIME AND THERE HAS BEEN IN OUR CITY'S HISTORY WHERE THESE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT ARE NECESSARY.
UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S DIFFICULT TO SAY THAT THERE'S COMMENTS ABOUT, IT DOESN'T, UM, INCREASE COMMUNITY SAFETY.
IT'S, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S BEING QUANTIFIED, UM, BECAUSE IT'S REALLY INCIDENT SPECIFIC IN WHICH THESE THINGS DO INCREASE THE SAFETY OF PEOPLE, THOSE PEOPLE INVOLVED.
UM, SO WE'RE NOT READILY BRINGING THESE THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, UM, JUST WILLY-NILLY.
THERE'S, THERE'S RULES IN PLACE, THERE'S POLICIES IN PLACE, AND WE'VE, I BELIEVE WE'VE DONE A GOOD JOB ADHERING TO THOSE POLICIES AND ONLY USING THIS EQUIPMENT, UH, WHEN IT'S NECESSARY.
I SEE THIS, UH, NO DIFFERENT THAN, UH, YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD A FIRE EXTINGUISHER IN MY HOUSE FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS AND HAVE NEVER HAD TO USE IT, BUT I WOULDN'T LET THAT THING, UM, EXPIRE OR GO TO USE, UH, SIMILAR TO HEALTH INSURANCE, CAR INSURANCE OR ANYTHING THAT LIKE THAT, THINGS THAT ARE VERY NECESSARY TO HAVE.
UM, AND YOU ONLY YOU, YOU HOPE THAT YOU NEVER HAVE TO USE THEM.
I'D LIKE TO ADD, UH, REAL QUICK CHIEF, UM, TWO THINGS.
ONE IS THEY HAVE DEFINITELY INCREASED, UM, SAFETY WHILE MINIMIZING IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY.
IF YOU RECALL FROM LAST YEAR'S REPORT, UH, THERE WAS AN INDIVIDUAL THAT WAS SHOOTING A FIREARM, UM, TOWARDS 1 0 1 FROM ONE OF THE MOTELS IN TOWN, UM, THAT WE WERE ABLE TO USE THE ARMOR TO PROTECT NOT ONLY EAST WASHINGTON STREET, BUT ALSO PREVENT FROM HAVING TO SHUT DOWN 1 0 1 AS WE, UH, OR AS SANTA ROSA PD.
AND ULTIMATELY THAT INCIDENT CAME TO A RESOLUTION WITHOUT IMPACTING THE GREATER COMMUNITY.
AND THEN I ALSO WANNA HIGHLIGHT WHAT OUR ARMORED VEHICLES HAVE HISTORICALLY BEEN USED FOR THE MOST.
AND IT'S BEEN AS A RESCUE VEHICLE, UM, IT HAS A HIGH WHEEL BASE, IT'S ABLE TO TRAVEL ON ROADWAYS THAT GET FLOODED.
AND WE'VE USED IT TO EVACUATE NEIGHBORHOODS DURING FLOODING WHERE OTHERWISE WE DIDN'T HAVE A MECHANISM TO GET IN AND, UM, EVACUATE POPULATIONS THAT WERE VULNERABLE TO THE, THE INCLEMENT WEATHER AND THE RISING WATER IN THEIR, THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO, UM, THERE IS MULTIPLE APPLICATIONS WITH THESE VEHICLES THAT ARE NOT JUST USED FOR TACTICAL OPERATIONS, UM, BUT THEY DO PROVIDE AN IMMENSE AMOUNT OF, UH, SAFETY FOR BOTH COMMUNITY AND OFFICERS INVOLVED.
YEAH, MY STAFF DID A REALLY GOOD JOB OF ARTICULATING MANY OF THE POINTS THAT I THINK WE'VE SPOKEN TO THAT I WOULD, UM, SPEAK TO AS WELL.
I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE THAT I'LL PUT A FINER POINT ON.
I THINK THERE'S A FEW THINGS THAT I'D LIKE TO JUST MAYBE SAY IN MY OWN WORDS.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK, UH, AS AN ORGANIZATION, AS AN AGENCY, WE'VE SEEN, UM, OTHER DEPARTMENTS USE SIMILAR OR OTHER EQUIPMENT IN WAYS THAT WE WOULDN'T, UM, WAYS THAT WE CAN'T IMAGINE USING HERE.
AND I THINK AT THE SAME TOKEN, WE'VE SEEN, UM, UTILIZATION HERE, UM, DONE EFFECTIVELY, DONE APPROPRIATELY, AND WE'VE DEMONSTRATED, UM, UM, REALLY THOUGHTFUL USE OVER, UH, A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.
WE'VE HAD AN ARMORED VEHICLE FOR THE ENTIRETY OF MY CAREER.
WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE ITERATIONS OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF ARMORED RESCUE VEHICLES.
UH, MOST NOTABLY, YOU MAY HAVE BEEN FAMILIAR WITH ONE OF OUR FORMER ONES.
IT WAS A REPURPOSED BRINKS ARMORED VEHICLE THAT, UH, THE GENTLEMAN THAT DOES, UM, ART AT, UH, AT, UH, THE PHOENIX THEATER, UM, WITH THE, THE PATTERNS OF THE WAVES, UM, I'M DRAWING A BLANK ON HIS NAME, RICK WAT, RICKY WATTS,
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UM, ENDED UP, UH, UH, PAINTING IT WHEN IT WAS, UH, RE REUTILIZED FOR THE THIRD TIME OVER AT THE BLOCK, UM, AT ONE POINT.AND SO, UM, WHEN THAT BECAME, UM, NO LONGER USABLE, UM, BECAUSE IT HAD AN EXHAUST LEAK AND WAS, UH, UH, DANGEROUS TO OUR STAFF THAT WERE IN IT, UM, WE, WE, UH, LOOKED FOR AN ALTERNATIVE, UM, THOSE ALTERNATIVES WHILE MAYBE, UH, MORE SUITABLE AND WE WOULD WELCOME THEM, COME AT A GREAT, GREAT COST.
AND IF YOU'VE BEEN FOLLOWING, UH, THE FINANCIAL, UM, CONSIDERATIONS AND THE COMPETING INTERESTS THAT WE HAVE LOCALLY, UM, THESE VEHICLES ARE UPWARDS, YOU KNOW, UH, THE HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS.
AND, UM, THE ONES THAT WE HAVE, UM, WERE ZERO.
AND WHILE THERE WERE SOME MAINTENANCE COSTS AND SOME STORAGE COSTS THAT HAVE NO LONGER, UH, WE WE'RE NO LONGER PAYING FOR THOSE, UM, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A COVER AND A COVER FOR THE WINDOWS THAT YOU WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO ON ANY OF THOSE VEHICLES.
UM, AS FAR AS, UM, I'VE HEARD, YOU KNOW, WE, THERE'S NOT VERY MANY USES OR THERE'S NO USES.
AND I THINK WHAT THAT SPEAKS TO IS OUR ORGANIZATION IS REALLY, REALLY INTENTIONAL AND THOUGHTFUL ON ONLY USING THEM WHEN IS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY.
AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE REVIEW AT A COMMAND LEVEL, AT MULTIPLE LEVELS, EVERY OPERATIONAL PLAN BEFORE WE CONSIDER WHETHER WE'RE GONNA USE NOT ONLY OUR CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM, WHICH INCLUDES OUR SWAT AND, UH, NEGOTIATORS, BUT ALSO WHAT TYPE OF PIECES OF EQUIPMENT WILL BE USED.
AND, UM, WE'RE VERY SENSITIVE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHETHER WE EVEN EVEN USE IT IN TRAINING AND WE DRIVE IT OUT OF THE BACK PARKING LOT WHERE IT'S PARKED IN OUR PARKING LOT, SO IT'S NOT EXPOSED TO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
'CAUSE WE KNOW HOW THAT CAN BE TO, TO THE COMMUNITY AND RECOGNIZE THAT IMPACT.
AND SO, UM, I THINK THAT JUST DEMONSTRATES AND SPEAKS TO THE LEVEL OF THOUGHT THAT WE, WE PUT INTO JUST NOT ONLY HOW WE'RE USING IT, BUT WHEN WE'RE USING IT.
AND THE CASES, UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN HERE FOR OVER 20 YEARS AND, UH, WHEN I LOOK TO MY TEAM, THERE'VE BEEN CALLS THAT WE'VE BEEN ON TOGETHER AND, UM, UM, INDEPENDENTLY, BUT WE'VE RESPONDED TO AND UNFORTUNATELY, UM, BEEN ON A NUMBER OF CRITICAL INCIDENTS IN THIS COMMUNITY OVER THE 10 YEARS OF OUR CAREERS.
AND, UH, THERE WERE SOME OF THOSE INCIDENCES THAT DID NOT HAVE, UM, SOME OF THESE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT.
AND ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS IN 8 35 A OF THE PENAL CODE, UM, REQUIRES AND SPEAKS TO TIME AND DISTANCE.
AND SO, UH, THIS, SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT IS EXACTLY THE TYPE OF EQUIPMENT THAT HELPS US PROVIDE DISTANCE COVER CONCEALMENT, AND ALLOWS FOR TIME AND OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO FURTHER DEESCALATE THE SITUATIONS SO THAT WE'RE NOT CREATING A LETHAL ENCOUNTER SO THAT WE'RE NOT ESCALATING SITUATIONS.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE, THAT SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT CAN BE IMPOSING AND CAN BE IMPACTFUL, BUT ALSO THESE INCIDENTS ARE STRESSFUL FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED.
AND IT'S HIGHLY STRESSFUL ON OUR STAFF.
AND, UH, AS THE DEPUTY CHIEF SPOKE TO, WE'VE HAD AN INCIDENT AT, AT THE BEST WESTERN HOTEL WHERE THE SUSPECT IN THAT CASE, UH, SAID, I CAN SEE ACROSS THE ROADWAY AND I'M GONNA START SHOOTING A RIFLE AT TRAFFIC, UH, WITHOUT DISCRETION, AND I'M JUST GONNA SHOOT AT CARS.
AND, UH, ALL OF YOU AS I LOOK AT YOU, UH, PROBABLY DRIVE WASHINGTON STREET DAILY WITH YOUR FAMILIES.
AND, UH, SO WE DROVE AND WE PARKED THAT ARMORED VEHICLE, UM, PERPENDICULAR IN FRONT OF THAT MOTEL ROOM, AND, UH, ASKED OUR STAFF TO DO THAT AND HAVE A HIGH DEGREE OF CONFIDENCE THAT THAT WOULD BLOCK THAT SO THAT WE KNEW THAT PEOPLE, UM, WOULD NOT BE SHOT AT.
UM, AND THERE WAS A SHOOTING IN THAT CASE.
AND, AND FORTUNATELY NO, NO LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS HAD TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT SHOOTING.
THE SUSPECT ULTIMATELY CHOSE TO SHOOT THEMSELVES, UNFORTUNATELY.
UM, BUT WE'RE THANKFUL THAT NO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WERE INJURED.
UM, WE USED IT IN ANOTHER SITUATION, UH, IN FRONT OF BENA ISRAEL WHERE THERE WAS AN ARMED SUSPECT ACROSS THE STREET WHEN THE, THE, THE PRESCHOOL WAS OCCUPIED.
AND SO WE CHOSE TO USE THE ARMORED VEHICLE IN FRONT OF THE PRESCHOOL AND BLOCK ACROSS THE STREET SO THAT WE COULD, UH, EVACUATE THE PRESCHOOL AND GET THE CHILDREN OUT OF THE, OUT OF THERE.
UM, MOST FREQUENTLY WE'VE USED THE ARMORED VEHICLES, UM, FOR WHAT I HOPE WE DON'T HAVE TO USE THIS COMING SEASON AS WE ANTICIPATE THIS EL NINO YEAR.
BUT WE SEE A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF FLOODING, AND IT IS THE, ONE OF THE ONLY VEHICLES THAT CAN, UH, UH, GET ACROSS, UH, MUCH OF THE INTERMITTENT AREAS ALONG THE PETALUMA BOULEVARD WHERE WE SEE FLOODING, UH, MULTIPLE LOCATIONS, AND THEN DRY SPOTS WE CAN'T DRIVE
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A BOAT THROUGH BECAUSE THERE'S FLOODING THEN LAND AND FLOODING.AND SO THE ARMORED VEHICLE ON STONY POINT AT THE PUMPKIN PATCH ACTUALLY WAS, UH, WATER WAS SO HIGH OVER STONY POINT TO GET INTO THE MOBILE HOME PARK, UM, THAT IT WAS LIFTED AND WAS FLOATING AT ONE POINT IN TIME.
SO WATER WAS OVER THE WHEELS, WHICH ARE ABOUT THREE AND A HALF FEET TALL.
AND I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT THE GROSS, UH, VEHICLE WEIGHT OF THAT, THAT ARMORED VEHICLE IS, BUT IT WAS LIFTING THAT VEHICLE OFF STONY POINT.
UM, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO DRIVE IN AND GET, UM, SOME OF THE ELDERLY RESIDENTS THAT WERE TRAPPED IN THE MOBILE HOME PARK AND GET THEM OUT TO, UH, THE AREA OF DENNY'S.
AND MANY OF THEM, AS YOU KNOW, HAVE SEVERE MEDICAL CONDITIONS, AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET THEM OVER TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT SO THAT THEY CAN GET THEM TO MEDICAL FACILITIES FOR TREATMENT.
UM, BUT AGAIN, LACK OF USE, UM, I THINK DEMONSTRATES THOUGHTFUL DISCRETION RATHER THAN NOT A NEED.
AND, UM, I KNOW, YOU KNOW, I, I LIVE ACROSS THE STREET FROM A SCHOOL, UM, YOU KNOW, WE JUST ARE DEBRIEFING AND TALKING ABOUT A TRAGIC SHOOTING UP IN CHICO IN THE LAST COUPLE DAYS AT, I THINK IT WAS AT A LIBRARY.
UM, THERE WAS A SHOOTING THE, UH, JUST RECENTLY UP IN MONTREAL, WE WERE SEEING MORE AND MORE, UM, ACTIVE SHOOTING, ACTIVE KILLINGS, WORKPLACE VIOLENCE, UM, VOLATILITY.
AND, UM, I WOULD HATE TO BE IN A SITUATION THAT WE, UM, HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE TO EQUIPMENT TO PREPARE, UM, AND TRAIN OUR STAFF TO BE IN SITUATIONS TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY, UM, AND NOT HAVE THE TOOLS TO, TO DO SO, OR TO NOT HAVE THE TOOLS FOR MY STAFF TO BE PROTECTED TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY.
AND SO, UM, OUR COMMITMENT HAS BEEN AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE THAT WE WILL BE THOUGHTFUL, WE'LL BE EMPATHETIC AND COMPASSIONATE IN OUR USE, AND THAT WE WILL BE DILIGENT AND AS A COMMAND STAFF IN EVALUATING WHEN IT'S APPROPRIATE TO USE THAT EQUIPMENT, UM, AS WE CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD.
UM, AND I THINK THAT THE REPORT IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT CONTINUE TO DEMONSTRATE THAT.
I ALSO THINK THAT HOPEFULLY YOU HEARD AS WE, UM, CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR DRONES, THAT WE'RE, EVEN AS WE, UM, HAVE IDENTIFIED USES THAT ARE PERMISSIBLE WITH THE EXISTING POLICY, WE WANTED TO COME BEFORE YOU AND SHARE WITH PUBLICLY AND PUBLICLY WITH THE COMMUNITY BEFORE WE JUST START UTILIZING THESE NEW, WHAT WE'RE PERCEIVING AS NEW USES THAT MAY BE NEW TO THE COMMUNITY WITHOUT KIND OF ACKNOWLEDGING THAT, BECAUSE THAT COULD BE SURPRISING AND ABRUPT.
AND SO YOU MENTIONED IF YOU DIDN'T RECOGNIZE, UM, WHAT'S FLYING OVERHEAD, AND YOU'RE KIND OF LIKE, WHAT THE HECK'S GOING ON? WE WANT TO TRANSMIT THAT AND BE AS TRANSPARENT AND OPEN.
SO I THINK IT JUST DEMONSTRATES THE LEVEL OF, UH, OF, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, OPENNESS AND, UH, WILLING TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY.
SO THAT WAS A LITTLE LONG-WINDED, THAT'S WHAT CHIEFS DO.
BUT, UM, HOPEFULLY THAT, THAT PROVIDES SOME CLARITY THERE.
AND, UM, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER OTHER QUESTIONS.
AND THEN I ALSO WANNA LEAVE SOME TIME BECAUSE I, I THINK WE HAVE, UH, UM, PROBABLY SOME MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT MAY WANNA SPEAK AS WELL.
CAN I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION TO YES, YOU CAN.
TO ADD ON TO THE CHIEF'S, UM, VERY WONDERFUL EXPLANATION.
DO WE EVER PROVIDE OUR MILITARY EQUIPMENT TO OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES IF THEY NEEDED IT? UM, MARIN COUNTY, OF COURSE, IS A DIFFERENT COUNTY, BUT IF NOVATO NEEDED SOMETHING THAT WE HAD, OR CATADI, PEN GROVE, EVEN RUNNER PARK, YEAH.
SO WE, WE HAVE A MUTUAL AID POLICY, UM, AND WE DO PROVIDE MUTUAL AID AND WE DO AND CAN REQUEST MUTUAL AID.
SO, UM, THAT HAS WORKED AT TIMES.
AND THEN WE'VE ALSO SEEN AT TIMES WHERE THERE IS, UM, COMPETING, UM, NEEDS, UM, OR THINGS ARE DOWN, WE COMMONLY RUN IN THIS, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, AND MAYBE MILITARY EQUIPMENT'S NOT THE BEST EXAMPLE, BUT THE HELICOPTER'S ONE THAT COMES UP QUITE FREQUENTLY.
UH, THE HELICOPTER'S READILY NOT AVAILABLE VERY OFTEN, WHICH IS ONE REQUIRE ONE EXAMPLE OF WHY WE FREQUENTLY COULD USE AND DO NEED TO UTILIZE DRONES BECAUSE I'VE, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S MAINTENANCE NEEDS, THERE'S THEIR OWN USE.
UM, AND BEING IN, UM, SOUTH SONOMA COUNTY, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE HISTORICALLY, AND I THINK YOU'RE, YOU'RE AWARE THAT WE'VE NEEDED TO INDEPENDENTLY KIND OF SELF SUSTAIN, UM, KIND OF BEING IN THIS REGION.
BUT, UM, THERE ARE, THERE ARE, UM, MUTUAL AID AGREEMENTS.
WE WOULD, UM, IN THOSE SITUATIONS PROVIDE,
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UM, OR MAKE AVAILABLE, IF THE SITUATION'S APPROPRIATE, WE WOULD BE BRIEFED.WE'D NORMALLY ASK LIKE, WHAT ARE THE CIRCUMSTANCES? IF IT'S A SEARCH WARRANT OR AN ARREST WARRANT OPERATION, WE'D WANT TO SEE THOSE, UM, OPERATION ORDERS OR ARREST WARRANTS TO MAKE SURE IT'S, UH, APPROPRIATE.
IT'S LAWFUL, IT'S, IT'S, UM, APPROVED BY A JUDGE.
UM, IT GO, WOULD KIND OF GO THROUGH THAT SAME COMMAND REVIEW THAT WE WOULD PUT OUR OWN, UM, UH, STAFF THROUGH.
UM, CLEARLY IT'D BE MORE OF AN EXIGENCY, SO STREAMLINING PORTIONS OF THAT.
UM, BUT THEN WE WOULD PROVIDE OUR OPERATOR, WE WOULD SEND OUR STAFF TO OPERATE OUR EQUIPMENT GENERALLY IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES.
AND THEN THEY ARE STILL CONTINUING TO ABIDE BY OUR USES AND OUR, UH, GUIDELINES IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR THOSE APPROVALS.
UM, AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO OPEN PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE PRESENTATION ITEM AND ASK SPEAKERS TO BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARDS TO THE CLERK'S DESK IF THEY HAVE NOT ALREADY.
UH, CLERK, HAVE WE RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING? WE'VE RECEIVED TWO COMMENTS AHEAD OF THE MEETING REGARDING THIS PRESENTATION ITEM, AND THEY'VE BEEN POSTED ONLINE PRIOR TO THE MEETING, AND WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY IN-PERSON PUBLIC COMMENT.
THEN, UH, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM AND CONTINUE WITH THE AGENDA.
UH, NEXT UP IS TO INTRODUCE THE TOPIC OF THE PSAC ANNUAL REPORT AND INVITE DEPUTY CHIEF NICK MCGOWAN TO PROVIDE FURTHER INFORMATION.
SO THIS ITEM, AS WE CAN RECALL, HAS BEEN CARRIED OVER FROM MEETING TO MEETING TO MEETING, UH, WE REVIEWED THE GUIDING LEGISLATION AND WHAT, UH, WE FOUND IS THAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING A VERY GOOD JOB AT REPORTING THE PSAC, UM, DISCUSSIONS AND ITEMS TO OUR CITY COUNCIL THROUGH COUNCIL MEMBER NOW AT HER COUNCIL REPORT OUTS, WHICH FULFILLS THE GUIDING LEGISLATION.
UM, SO WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS, UH, WE'RE GOING TO REMOVE THIS ITEM FROM THE AGENDA, UH, AND CONTINUE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER NOW AS OUR, AS OUR LIAISON, DOING EXACTLY WHAT SHE HAS BEEN DOING, UM, IS DOING THOSE COUNCIL REPORT OUTS WHEN SHE, UH, IS AT CITY COUNCIL.
UM, ALSO THOUGH, SO I NOTICED WHEN I LOOK AT OUR DUTIES FROM OUR, UM, WHATEVER THAT THING THAT MADE THIS COMMITTEE YEAH.
THE GUIDING LEGISLATION CHARTER EXACTLY.
AND IT SAYS ABOUT HOW WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE PROVIDING A, A REPORT TO THE CITY COUNCIL ABOUT THE IPA'S ANNUAL REPORT, AND AGAIN, ABOUT THE MILITARY EQUIPMENT REPORT.
AND I WAS THINKING, WHAT, HOW WOULD WE, HOW DO WE DO THAT ANYWAY? LIKE, WE'RE, WE'RE LIKE ALL SITTING, YOU KNOW, ON HERE.
WE ONLY SEE EACH OTHER FOR THE HOUR AND A HALF, LIKE, BUT IT, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S JUST AN UNREALISTIC ASK.
SO I'M GLAD THAT THERE WAS A GET AROUND.
SO THE, THE, THE WORKAROUND TO THAT WAS THE COUNCIL LIAISON REPORT OUTS, UM, WHICH IS INFORMING THE COUNCIL ON WHAT THE DISCUSSION MATTERS ARE HERE, UH, IN THE COMMITTEE.
AND THEN YOU ALSO CAME TO THE JUNE 8TH, AND YOU'RE GONNA COME TO JULY 18TH.
I DON'T HAVE THE DATE IN FRONT OF ME THAT LAST MONDAY MEETING IN JULY TO TALK ABOUT THE MILITARY EQUIPMENT.
AUGUST 3RD I BELIEVE, IS THE MILITARY.
I THOUGHT IT WAS JULY, AUGUST 3RD.
DO YOU NEED US TO DO ANYTHING? DO WE HAVE TO SORT OF PASS A MOTION OR ANYTHING IN ORDER TO REMOVE THAT FROM THE NO, IT WAS JUST, UH, FOR AWARENESS.
UM, DIDN'T WANT TO REMOVE IT, UH, WITHOUT HAVING THE, UH, CONVERSATION HERE.
I, I THINK THAT PRETTY MUCH IS PROBABLY UNANIMOUS AGREEMENT FROM THE COMMITTEE THAT WE'RE ALL FINE WITH REMOVING THAT.
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NEXT UP, UH, I'D LIKE TO ASK THE COMMITTEE, UH, WE WANNA REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMITTEE, LONG RANGE CALENDAR, ASK COMMITTEE MEMBERS IF THERE ARE ANY DISCUSSION NEEDED REGARDING UPCOMING MEETING DATES AND OR POTENTIAL AGENDA ITEMS ON THE PSAC LONG RANGE CALENDAR.WHILE EVERYONE LOOKS AT THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO, AS A COMMITTEE MEMBER, SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO FOR, FOR DISCUSSION.
I DEFINITELY NOTICED IN THE, UM, GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE THE MEETING THAT THERE WERE SEVERAL COMMENTS ABOUT FLOCK CAMERAS AGAIN.
UM, I KNOW THAT WE HAD A PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY ABOUT FLOCK CAMERAS.
AGAIN, UM, IT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK THAT THE, YOU KNOW, THIS BEING THE PUB PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMITTEE, IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE PUBLIC HAS STILL, UM, FEEDBACK AND COMMENTS AND CONCERNS ABOUT ITS USE.
I KNOW IT'S A TOPIC THAT WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED A LOT, BUT I THINK IT'S PROBABLY WORTH CONTINUING TO PUT THIS ON THE LONG REACH CALENDAR.
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I KNOW THAT THERE WAS ALREADY AUTOMATIC LICENSE PLATE READERS, A LPR, UM, BUT I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP AGAIN, LIKE AS, AS, AS MUCH AS I'M SURE WE'D ALL WOULD LIKE TO, UM, TALK ABOUT LOTS OF OTHER THINGS.AND THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DISCUSS, UM, THAT THE AMOUNT OF PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS TOPIC IS, UM, I THINK SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER IF IT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO DISCUSS.
AND IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO FIND WAYS TO WORK WITH THE CITY COUNCIL, UM, AND WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY SO THAT WE CAN, UM, ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, UM, I THINK THE WORST THING THAT CAN HAPPEN IS THEY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE DOING THEIR CIVIC DUTY AND SORT OF CALLING OUT, HEY, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT, AND THEN WE ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
SO THAT WOULD BE MY COMMITTEE COMMENT.
I ACTUALLY THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.
AND, UM, UH, I ALSO DO WANNA, I COULD TALK ABOUT IT RIGHT NOW 'CAUSE BEFORE THE COMMITTEE COMMENT IS THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE COMMENTING WERE, UM, A LOT OF THE COMMENTS WERE ABOUT THE FACT THAT NOW SAN FRANCISCO IS STOPPED, UM, GIVING, SHARING DATA WITH THAT, UM, FUSION CRIME FUSION CENTER.
AND I RECALL, IF I RECALL FROM OUR DISCUSSIONS IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY, WE, WE DO SHARE INFORMATION WITH THAT SAME FUSION CENTER.
AND IF, IF, IF EVEN WITHOUT BEFORE GETTING MORE, YOU KNOW, OPENING UP TO A WHOLE PUBLIC THING, IF THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT, JUST LIKE WITH THE EL CAJON, YOU WERE LIKE, OKAY, IF I SAID, IF I SAID THAT RIGHT.
UM, BUT IF, YOU KNOW, YOU STOPPED SHARING WITH THEM 'CAUSE OF THE AGS, UM, THE AGS SUED AGAINST THEM, THAT NOW THAT, THAT THEY HAVE CLEARLY VIOLATED, YOU KNOW, SAN FRANCISCO'S DATA, AND THAT MEANS ALL OF OUR DATA BASICALLY, 'CAUSE IT'S ALL ONE, ONE SYSTEM, UM, THAT MAYBE WE WOULD STOP GIVING THEM INFORMATION TOO.
YEAH, WE'VE ALREADY DONE THAT.
YEAH, SO I'M, I, I, I, BUT YES, I, I, I DEFINITELY THINK THAT I KNOW WHEN I TELL ANYBODY I'M ON THIS COMMITTEE, THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY'S TALKING ABOUT.
ANY OTHER COMMITTEE COMMENTS? IF, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, UM, LONG RANGE CALENDAR AS IT'S WRITTEN, OUR NEXT MEETING IN JULY, WE'LL BE ONBOARDING THE THREE NEW COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
UM, AND THEN WE HAVE RECRUITMENT AND BACKGROUND INVESTIGATIONS, WHICH WE'VE PUSHED SEVERAL TIMES.
UM, AND THEN WHEN IT COMES TO OUR NEXT MEETING AFTER THAT, WHICH IS SEPTEMBER, UM, IT'S THE BASICALLY GO GOING OVER SOME OF THE SAME, UM, POINTS THAT THIS HALF OF THE COMMITTEE HAS ALREADY GONE THROUGH, UM, WHICH IS THE DECORUM, THE BROWN ACT, AND THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST FOR THE ECONOMIC 700.
UM, SO THE NEXT AVAILABLE, UH, MEETING WOULD BE THE OCTOBER 28TH MEETING.
SO WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT WHAT ARE WE PUTTING THERE.
UM, I DO WANNA BE MINDFUL AND, UH, LET YOU KNOW THAT TWO THINGS THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS CURRENTLY WORKING ON AND WOULD LIKE TO BRING FORWARD TO THIS COMMITTEE IS OUR PARKING WORKSHOP, UM, TO SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS OUR RECREATIONAL VEHICLES, UM, RVS, BOATS, TRAILERS, SO FORTH, AND OUR RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES.
AND THEN ALSO WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF, UH, KIND OF WORKING ON A STRATEGIC PLAN AND IMPLEMENTATION WITH E-BIKE, UH, AND E MOTORCYCLE, UM, ORDINANCE AND AWARENESS.
SO THOSE ARE TWO ITEMS THAT WE, WE HAVE BEEN, UM, THAT WE HAVE CALENDARED, UH, FOR SUMMER, SUMMER FALL, UM, TO BRING THEM TO CITY COUNCIL.
AND I WOULD URGE THIS, UH, BODY TO, TO CONSIDER THOSE FOR POTENTIALLY THAT OCTOBER MEETING.
UM, AND THEN LOOK AT A LATER DATE TO REVISIT THE A LPR CONVERSATION.
AND, AND MAYBE, UH, DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY GREEN MIGHT CLARIFY TOO.
I THINK YOU HAD REQUESTED THE SEPTEMBER MEETING BE THE, THOSE, UH, LEGAL REQUIREMENTS THAT WAS, THAT WAS NOT PLACED BY, UH, UH, THE PD STAFF THAT WAS AT THE DIRECTION OF THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
WE HAVE NEW COMMITTEE MEMBERS BEGINNING JULY, AND SO WE WANTED TO ENSURE WE COULD PROPERLY TRAIN THEM ON ALL THE RULES REGARDING PUBLIC MEETINGS AND EMAIL COMMUNICATIONS AND THE BROWN ACT, JUST TO ENSURE THAT THEY HAVE EVERY, ALL THE TOOLS THEY NEED TO PROPERLY CONDUCT THESE MEETINGS.
SO THAT'S WHY WE ASKED TO DO IT IN SEPTEMBER.
BY, BY THE WAY, WHEN WE, WHEN WE WERE ALL NEWLY SET, I REMEMBER NOT AS PART OF THIS MEETINGS AT ALL THAT WE WENT TO A BROWN ACT PRESENTATION, BUT IT WASN'T JUST OUR COMMITTEES, BUT IT WAS OTHER COMMITTEES.
REMEMBER WE DID THAT AND I THINK THAT IT WAS DONE OUTSIDE OF THE MEETING TIME.
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YOU ARE CORRECT AT WHEN MINI APPOINTMENT, WHEN WE HAVE NEW MEMBERS TO SEVERAL COMMISSIONS AND COMMITTEES, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WILL GIVE USUALLY LIKE ONE OR TWO DIFFERENT BROWN ACT TRAININGS TO ALL COMMITTEE MEMBERS.AND I'M NOT SURE WHY I HAVEN'T HEARD OUR OFFICE DISCUSS THAT.
SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND FOLLOW UP WITH THEM AND THEN WE'LL FOLLOW UP WITH THE GROUP.
JUST TO MENTION, REFRESHING A BROWN ACT IS ALWAYS A GOOD IDEA, AND EVEN AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, WE DO IT ANNUALLY.
WE HAVE REFRESHER LITTLE REMINDERS, EMAILS AND COURSES, UH, ANY OTHER COMMITTEE COMMENTS? ANYTHING, UM, ANYONE WANTS TO, TO BRING UP? I WANNA SAY FOR THE SHORT, BUT LOVELY TO HAVE YOU HERE.
UM, ARE THERE ANY, UM, ADJUSTMENTS, ANYTHING WANTS TO, ANYONE WANTS TO ADD TO THE LONG RANGE CALENDAR THAT'S NOT ALREADY THERE? AND WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO DISCUSS THE UPCOMING MEETINGS COMING IN JULY, SEPTEMBER OR OCTOBER? NO, I THINK I, I THINK I, I KNOW, I THINK AS A PROPOSAL, TELL ME WHAT YOU GUYS THINK, UM, AS A PROPOSAL, MAYBE AS A SORT OF SOFT AGENDA ITEM DEPENDING ON IF WE'RE ABLE TO, DEPENDING ON, ON, YOU KNOW, JORDAN BEING ABLE TO FOLLOW UP ON IF THERE ARE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO REVIEW THE BROWN ACT, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S IMPORTANT STUFF FOR, FOR EVERYONE TO REVIEW.
BUT MAYBE AS A SOFT AGENDA ITEM, LIKE IF THERE ENDS UP BEING TIME IN THE SEPTEMBER MEETING, MAYBE WE CAN ADD FLOCK CAMERAS AS SORT OF A SECONDARY AGENDA ITEM.
SOMETHING THAT IF TIME PERMIT OR IF TIME ALLOWS.
WHAT DOES ANYONE THINK OF THAT? I, I AGREE A HUNDRED PERCENT.
IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN DO? WELL, I THINK, UH, TO JUST ONE POINT OF THING IS, UH, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT APRS.
I WOULD JUST TAKE A STEP BACK.
UH, I THINK WE SHOULD MAYBE NOT HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT A SPECIFIC VENDOR.
I KNOW THAT'S A PUBLIC INTEREST SPECIFIC TO THAT, THAT'S BEEN ONE PIECE OF DIRECTION AS, UH, WE'VE CONTINUED TO HAVE CONVERSATION BOTH FROM THE DAIS AS WELL AS WITH THE CITY MANAGER.
UM, I THINK IF THERE'S A CONVERSATION REGARDING, UH, TECHNOLOGY AND SYSTEMS, I THINK THE CONVERSATION WOULD BE APPROPRIATE ABOUT A LPR TECHNOLOGY.
UM, AND THEN WITHIN THAT, THAT'S PROBABLY AN APPROPRIATE CONTEXT.
WE HAVE HAD THAT CONVERSATION THREE TIMES MM-HMM
SO I THINK WE'RE HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO ADDRESS CONVERSATION IN THAT ARENA.
WE'RE HAPPY TO PUT THINGS ON THE LONG RANGE CALENDAR, BUT THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY COMMENTARY ON THAT.
I DO KNOW THAT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER NOW ALSO CARRIED TWO MEETINGS AGO BACK TO THE COUNCIL AND THERE'S STILL DIRECTION FROM OUR STAFF.
WE'VE BEEN EVALUATING A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT VENDORS, UM, AND PROVIDING COMMENTARY BACK TO CITY MANAGER FLYNN ON SOME OF THOSE ALTERNATIVES OUT THERE.
SO THOSE THINGS ARE STILL IN PROGRESS AND, UH, WORK, UM, GOING ON.
SO, UM, YEAH, I THINK, I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
KEEP IT GENERALIZED ALPR, MAYBE BY SEPTEMBER THERE'S AN UPDATE ON SOME OF THAT PROGRESS BY THEN WE'LL KEEP IT AS A SOFT AGENDA ITEM SO THAT AT LEAST IT'S AGENDAS, BUT WE UNDERSTAND IT'S SORT OF TBD, UM, IN REGARDS TO THE OTHER ITEMS FOR SEPTEMBER.
AND THEN WITH THAT, DO WE WANT TO TAKE THE SUGGESTION AND GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT PARKING WORKSHOPS FOR OCTOBER, UM, AS SORT OF A PLACEMENT FOR NOW? YEAH, I THINK THE ONLY THING, I THINK WHAT THE DEPUTY CHIEF WAS REFERRING TO, OR WE ARE TRYING TO, UM, BE THOUGHTFUL AS WHEN WE'RE BRINGING THINGS TO COUNCIL, WE WANT TO TRY TO IDENTIFY OPPORTUNITIES TO ALLOW A PUBLIC COMMENT IN THIS BODY ON CERTAIN THINGS SURE.
SO THAT IT CAN HAVE THAT, THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC DISCUSSION, UM, AND AT LEAST HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH, WITH THIS COMMITTEE AS WELL.
AND SO SOME OF THOSE THINGS HAVE DIFFICULTIES FOR ALIGNMENT WITH THE COUNCIL MEETING AGENDA, UM, AND FINDING TIME ON THOSE FUTURE AGENDAS.
SO WE'LL TRY, WE TRY TO WORK ON WHERE THE DIRECTION IS TO BRING THOSE FORWARD TO THE COUNCIL AND THEN WORK BACKWARDS CONVERSELY, SO WELL, I'M, I'M OKAY WITH SORT OF ADDING IT AS A FOR NOW IN OCTOBER, AND THEN IF WHEN WE MEET IN, YOU KNOW, IN JULY OR SEPTEMBER IF IT FEELS LIKE YOU GUYS HAVE GOT A BETTER RESOLUTION ON, ON OTHER DEPENDENCIES, WE CAN, WE CAN ADJUST AS NEEDED.
WE APPRECIATE THAT FLEXIBILITY.
AND, UH, SO WHEN IS THE CONTRACT? I KNOW WE HAVE A, A CONTRACT WITH THE VENDOR
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AND SO I'M SURE YOU'RE GONNA BRING FORWARD A NEW CONTRACT WITH EITHER ANOTHER VENDOR OR WILL THAT COME TO COUNCIL? HEY, BE, BEFORE WE ANSWER THAT, I KNOW WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE TO TIME.I THINK I NEED TO MAKE A MOTION THAT IF WE WANT TO GO FIVE MINUTES OVER TODAY, UM, CAN I GET A APPROVAL YAY AND A ON THAT MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO GO FIVE MINUTES UNDER OVER, SINCE I'M TALKING FIVE MINUTES MORE SINCE I'M TALKING AND I STILL WANNA THANK THE OUTGOING MEMBERS.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? I WOULD SECOND.
AND SO ANYWAY, JUST THE, I KNOW THE CONTRACT'S, UM, SET TO EXPIRE THIS FALL AND WE WOULD BE THEN, I WOULD THINK AS A COUNCIL BE SEEN OTHER CONTRACTS.
SO THE, THE, UH, THE FIRST YEAR OF THE FLOCK CAMERAS WAS PAID THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND IT WAS A GRANT.
SO THE CITY HASN'T HAD TO FUND ANY OF THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE FLOCK CAMERAS THE FIRST YEAR, OR THE GRANT FUNDING WILL BE UP IN THE END OF SEPTEMBER.
UM, SO AT THE, TOWARDS THE END OF SUMMER, UM, WITH THE, THE CAMERAS, WE NEED TO EVALUATE, UH, WHAT THE, UH, OPPORTUNITY IS IF THE CITY WERE TO CHANGE VENDORS AT THAT TIME.
UM, THE, THE FUNDING IMPLEMENTATION WAS FOR THAT FIRST YEAR OF THAT PROGRAM.
UM, AND THERE ARE OTHER VENDORS OUT THERE AND WE CONTINUE TO EVALUATE THEM.
UM, AND IT'S GONNA BE A FISCAL QUESTION, UM, FOR POTENTIALLY, UH, A, A FURTHER DISCUSSION.
SO DO WE HAVE A PLAN AND WHEN THAT WILL BE ON THE AGENDA FOR COUNCIL? UH, IT'S CURRENTLY NOT ON THE COUNCIL AGENDA PLANNER.
UM, THE, THE, I THINK THAT'S MORE OF A, A CONVERSATION AT THIS POINT IN TERMS OF WHAT WE, WE AS A, AS A CITY CAN DO.
UM, AND THEN THAT WILL DRIVE WHEN IT WOULD BE, UH, GOING TO COUNCIL.
MAY I SUGGEST IN LIGHT OF THAT TIMING THAT BY, IF IT'S, THAT IF THE GRANT MONEY IS UP THE END OF SEPTEMBER, THAT MAYBE OUR, OUR MEETING IN SEPTEMBER WOULD BE KIND OF A GOOD IDEA TO JUST FIND OUT WHERE, WHERE THE DEPARTMENT IS LOOKING AT GOING, ET CETERA.
BECAUSE THIS, THIS SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING THAT'S COMMUNITY MINDED TO BE WORKING WITH THE CITY COUNCIL.
THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD TIME TO KIND OF LIKE SAY, LET, LET'S LOOK AT THIS IN SEPTEMBER BECAUSE SOMETHING'S GONNA HAVE TO HAPPEN IN OCTOBER ANYWAY.
I THE, THESE SOUND MORE LIKE POLICY DECISIONS THAT A COUNCIL SHOULD BE GIVING DIRECTION TO, BUT I, I UNDERSTAND THE FEEDBACK AND I THINK WE'VE VERY CLEARLY HEARD THAT IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ALPS TO BE DISCUSSED IN SEPTEMBER, THAT WOULD BE THE WILL OF THE COMMITTEE.
UH, I'M GONNA KEEP MOVING US FORWARD.
[STAFF COMMENT]
UP WILL BE STAFF COMMENT, UH, CHIEF MILLER AND STAFF IF THERE ARE ANY COMMENTS YOU WANNA MAKE.UM, SO I THINK, UH, IT'S BEEN MENTIONED A FEW TIMES, AND UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE TWO ABSENT MEMBERS TONIGHT, BUT WE DID WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, UM, LAST MONTH THERE WAS, UM, COMMITTEES, COMMISSION AND BOARDS APPOINTMENTS FOR ALL THE CITYWIDE COMMITTEES.
AND OVERWHELMINGLY, I THINK THEY HAD 90 APPLICANTS FOR ALL THE COMMITTEES.
SO A VERY, VERY STRONG OUTPOURING OF APPLICANTS, I THINK FOR THIS BODY.
UM, WE HAD THREE SEATS AVAILABLE, UM, THAT WERE COMING, COMING OPEN.
UM, WE HAD NINE, I BELIEVE NINE APPLICANTS FOR THOSE THREE SEATS, SO THAT'S GREAT.
UM, AND, UH, WE HAVE THREE CURRENT SEATED COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT ARE, UM, NOT CONTINUING ON.
UM, AND SO WE WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THOSE COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN SERVING WITH US AND APPRECIATE THEM AND THANK THEM FOR THEIR SERVICE.
AND SO, UM, WE WANTED TO THANK, UM, FIRST MS, UH, DOVE PETRI FOR HER SERVICE TO THE COMMITTEE, AND WE HAVE A CERTIFICATE OF APPRECIATION FOR THAT.
AND SINCE SHE'S HERE TONIGHT, I'M GONNA PRESENT THAT TO HER IN PERSON AS WELL AS, UM, COMMITTEE MEMBER KEARNEY AND COMMITTEE MEMBER SULLIVAN WHO ARE NOT HERE AND PRESENT.
AND WE'LL GET THEM THEIR, THEIR, UH, CERTIFICATES WHEN THEY'RE AVAILABLE.
AND SO WITH THAT, EVEN THOUGH WE ARE, UH, SEATING NEW COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND WE WILL INTRODUCE THEM MORE FORMALLY IN OUR JULY MEETING AND HAVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THEMSELVES
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AT THAT, THAT TIME.BUT, UM, WE'RE ALWAYS RECRUITING FOR COMMITTEES.
SO, UM, WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT IF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE TUNING IN AND HAVE AN INTEREST THAT THEY ATTEND AND, AND, UH, UH, FOLLOW BECAUSE, UH, IN TWO YEARS OR AT TIMES THINGS COME UP AND WE'RE ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, LOOKING FOR THOSE OPPORTUNITIES.
ADDITIONALLY, UH, THE FAIR JUST CONCLUDED AND IT WENT WELL.
WE HAD NO MAJOR IN INCIDENTS AND OUR STAFF WORKED THAT EVENT TIRELESSLY OVER THE LAST, UH, FEW DAYS.
WE'VE FOUR DAYS CONSECUTIVELY IN A ROW, AND SO LONG HOURS HARD WORK AND IT WENT OFF GREAT AND A GREAT CITY SPONSORED EVENT.
UM, JUNE HAS BEEN, UH, PRIDE MONTH, SO YOU MAY HAVE SEEN, UH, THAT WE ARE SUPPORTING THAT EVENT WITH OUR STAFF INTERNALLY AS WELL AS, UH, THROUGH, UH, OUR, OUR FLAG.
YOU MAY SEE NOTICE THAT WE HAVE DEPARTMENT PATCHES AS WELL.
UM, AND THEN WE ALSO WERE RECENTLY INVITED OVER THE WEEKEND, UH, BY OUR, UM, COMMUNITY MEMBERS AS ISLAMIC, UH, CULTURAL, SORRY, THE ISLAMIC CENTER OF PETALUMA FOR THEIR ANNUAL PICNIC AND CELEBRATION OF EID, UM, OVER AT THE, UH, THE PETALUMA COMMUNITY CENTER.
SO WE WERE, WE'RE PROUD TO JOIN THEM FOR THE PICNIC AND UH, UH, CELEBRATE THE CELEBRATION WITH THEM AND ENJOY THE WONDERFUL FOOD THAT THEY PREPARED FOR US.
SO IT WAS QUITE, UM, GREAT AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO MAINTAINING AND BUILDING THAT RELATIONSHIP.
SO THAT'S THE END OF MY REPORT AND, UH, GIVE IT BACK TO YOU,
UM, AND WITH THAT, WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 7:35 PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH EVERYONE.